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Johnny Marr has paid tribute to the songwriter and former bandmate he thinks is “the greatest lyricist I’ve ever worked with”. It's Isaac Brock of Modest Mouse; the band Marr was part of from 2006 and 2008, playing on their 2007 album We Were Dead Before The Ship Even Sank.
Marr has reflected on his time in Modest Mouse during a new interview with Stereogum looking at the bands and projects he's been involved in during the 34 years after The Smiths split, including The Pretenders, Hans Zimmer and Electronic.
In 2003 or 2004, I thought a lot of British rock guitar music was shit
\"In 2003 or 2004, I thought a lot of British rock guitar music was shit,\" Marr reveals, explaining what attracted him to the Portland band. \"A lot of acoustic troubadouring. It was the fallout from OK Computer. I love OK Computer, but I thought there were a lot of not very good versions of Radiohead around. I met Elliott Smith when I was in California and he talked to me about Portland and Built To Spill. All roads led to Modest Mouse. I started listening. I loved The Moon & Antartica.
\"The thing about it was, I couldn’t fathom where this band was coming from,\" adds Marr. \"I just liked it. That was new to me. Because we’re all experts and we’re all fucking smartasses. We always think, “That’s trying to sound like that.” Modest Mouse was just this very inventive thing I couldn’t work out but I knew I liked it.\"
After receiving a call from Brock, asking if he'd like to join the band, Marr initially decided to join them in Portland for a 10-day experiment to see where it went.
\"A few days into the playing, I was stood in a jam session playing with the strangers, and it reminded me of being a kid, because I was like, 'I don’t know what this music is,' marvels Marr. \"I’m there then. I don’t give a fuck whether they’re a big band or a small band. That’s what I’m about. Me and the guys then just became really tight. To have bailed would’ve just been really weird.
Modest Mouse in 2007 (L-R): Jeremiah Green, Joe Plummer, Isaac Brock, Johnny Marr, Tom Peloso (Image credit: Mick Hutson/Redferns)
\"I stayed in the band, and I loved being in the band,\" continues Marr. \"There was a brotherhood that is there to this day. Probably the best time of my life. Some supernaturally good shows. I liked my role. It’s just a thing that happened in my life that I’m eternally grateful for. And Isaac Brock is the greatest lyricist I’ve ever worked with. I’ve seen him write an amazing song, and then make it better, and then make it better again.\"
The guitarists also spoke to Stereogum about his forthcoming double album Fever Dream Pt 1-4 being released as four EPs, staggered until February.
\"First and foremost, it is an album,\" says Marr. \"It’s a double album, almost working backwards. The thing about the parts that was fun — when I had a bunch of songs and some needed background vocals and some needed a verse fixed, I had multiple plates spinning. I had these big whiteboards in the studio for each. Going, 'If I finish that song, that’ll make Part 1 as a side work, OK, I’ll shift that around.'
\"I had fun with that process,\" he adds, \"and then once we were getting that together it revealed to me how I would like Side 4 to play out. The last bit won’t be an EP. If you buy the record, you get the whole thing. I don’t want to just have a collection of EPs, because I’m an album guy. It’s a bit like having my cake and eating it, really. And a certain kind of impatience. I don’t want to wait until February to just have three songs out. I want people to hear a lot more, quick, because it’s been 14 or 15 months of solitary work.\"
Read the whole interview at Stereogum. Fever Dreams Pt 1 is released on 15 October.
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+ "page_snippet": "Johnny Marr calls himself \u201ca lifer\u201d. It\u2019s a fair description of someone who started playing guitar in bands aged 13, founded the Smiths at 19, departed the band five years later, and went on to become an integral part of the sound of the Pretenders, Electronic, Modest Mouse and the Cribs.Johnny Marr calls himself \u201ca lifer\u201d. It\u2019s a fair description of someone who started playing guitar in bands aged 13, founded the Smiths at 19, departed the band five years later, and went on to become an integral part of the sound of the Pretenders, Electronic, Modest Mouse and the Cribs. Latterly, Marr has contributed to soundtracks with Hans Zimmer, including the Billie Eilish song No Time to Die for last year\u2019s Bond film, and made four solo albums. On the eve of his new double album, the acclaimed songwriter takes questions from musicians, politicians and readers On the evidence of our shout-out for questions for this feature, there is clear affection for Marr, both from former collaborators and Observer readers. Not everyone, though, feels so well disposed. After our interview took place, his former Smiths bandmate Morrissey posted an \u201copen letter\u201d on his website asking Marr to stop talking about him in the press. Not everyone, though, feels so well disposed. After our interview took place, his former Smiths bandmate Morrissey posted an \u201copen letter\u201d on his website asking Marr to stop talking about him in the press. \u201cMove on,\u201d the singer wrote. \u201cIt\u2019s as if you can\u2019t uncross your own legs without mentioning me.",
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Johnny Marr: \u2018If I thought that drugs and booze would make me a more interesting musician I would do it.\u2019 Photograph: P\u00e5l Hansen/The Observer
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On the eve of his new double album, the songwriter takes questions from Observer readers and celebrity fans on being a style icon, marrying young, and 20 years without booze
Johnny Marr calls himself \u201ca lifer\u201d. It\u2019s a fair description of someone who started playing guitar in bands aged 13, founded the Smiths at 19, departed the band five years later, and went on to become an integral part of the sound of the Pretenders, Electronic, Modest Mouse and the Cribs. Latterly, Marr has contributed to soundtracks with Hans Zimmer, including the Billie Eilish song No Time to Die for last year\u2019s Bond film, and made four solo albums. His latest is Fever Dreams Pts 1-4, a terrific, vigorous double album of 16 tracks that swoops frommoody introspection to rousing anthems. So, yes, after 40 years in the business, it\u2019s hard to deny Marr\u2019s zeal and commitment.
\u201cWhen you get older, you learn that no matter whether your work is in or out of fashion, it\u2019s all about whether you can stand behind it,\u201d he says, \u201cbecause you can\u2019t do anything about the trends and fashions and the way you are perceived too much \u2013 that\u2019s a really secondary load of baggage that just gets in the way. So there are definitely some advantages to the mentality of being older: you don\u2019t really care too much about being liked, certainly not as much as how much you like the work.\u201d
At 58, Marr is, you have to say, in indecently good nick: his eyes alert, his skin clear, his hair raven black. He hasn\u2019t always lived the most temperate life, but he became a vegetarian in the mid-1980s, and he hasn\u2019t had a drink or smoked for more than 20 years. Since he was a kid he\u2019s been a ball of energy, but these days his release is running, and he has completed marathons in under four hours. Marr met his wife, Angie, when they were both teenagers, and they have two grown-up children. He is careful not to preach, but perched on a stool in a photo studio in north London, sipping green tea, he\u2019s certainly an impressive advertisement for wholesome living.
Marr with wife Angie Marr and daughter Sonny. Photograph: David M Benett/Getty Images
\u201cIt\u2019s worth saying that if I thought that drugs and booze would make me a more interesting musician I would do it,\u201d says Marr. \u201cAnd I don\u2019t go around skipping through cornfields, by any means; I have my issues just like anybody else. But it\u2019d be tougher if I was a boozer, that\u2019s for sure. I just don\u2019t think it\u2019s a particularly happening drug. I don\u2019t think Bob Marley thought that either.\u201d
On the evidence of our shout-out for questions for this feature, there is clear affection for Marr, both from former collaborators and Observer readers. Not everyone, though, feels so well disposed. After our interview took place, his former Smiths bandmate Morrissey posted an \u201copen letter\u201d on his website asking Marr to stop talking about him in the press. \u201cMove on,\u201d the singer wrote. \u201cIt\u2019s as if you can\u2019t uncross your own legs without mentioning me. Our period together was many lifetimes ago, and a lot of blood has streamed under the bridge since then. There comes a time when you must take responsibility for your own actions and your own career, with which I wish you good health to enjoy. Just stop using my name as click-bait.\u201d
Marr, on Twitter, responded that open letters haven\u2019t \u201creally been a thing since 1953\u201d and went on: \u201cAlso, this fake news business\u2026 a bit 2021 yeah?\u201d And in fairness to him, Marr didn\u2019t say the name Morrissey once in our 90-minute conversation. A couple of readers asked emotional questions about the Smiths, but his responses were thoughtful and measured, as you can judge below. As for Morrissey\u2019s complaint that Marr doesn\u2019t discuss his own solo work, Marr would probably much rather do that, but he knows that fans are still interested in the Smiths, and he seems to feel no compulsion to erase that period of his life.
He would brush off the comparison, but Marr is almost entering Paul McCartney territory. Both men were blamed by many for the break-up of their iconic British bands; both have remained mostly tight-lipped about what went down and have relentlessly worked in the intervening decades to create new material that they know will inevitably be compared to their formative output. And both McCartney and Marr seem to be now enjoying a revisionist take on their lifetime in music.
The Smiths performing on The Tube, March 1984. Photograph: Pete Cronin/Redferns
Has Marr seen Get Back, the Peter Jackson documentary series about the Beatles? \u201cYeah, amazing,\u201d he replies. \u201cThere were so many things to take from it, little things. And that 50 years later Paul McCartney is exonerated almost. Really, really impressive. He kept a lid on a lot of things for whatever reasons. I think that\u2019s really impressive.\u201d
Did any of that resonate with Marr? \u201cMaybe, yeah,\u201d he says with a wry smile. \u201cNo, I wouldn\u2019t want to say that. I think Paul McCartney is out on his own dealing with a whole lot of different agendas on a world scale, on a historic scale. But he definitely seems to be such an impressive person because of how he\u2019s just stayed human. He\u2019s an absolute beacon for everyone. And, yeah, it does cross my mind quite often: if he can do it, anyone can, know what I mean?\u201d
Questions for Johnny Marr from readers and famous fans
Which song have you written that still gives you goosebumps? And which can\u2019t you stand any more? Richard Hornby, Manchester
I\u2019ve always really liked That Joke Isn\u2019t Funny Anymore by the Smiths. And Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me and The Headmaster Ritual. City of Bugs by the Cribs, Dashboard by Modest Mouse and Get the Message particularly by Electronic. I think it\u2019s one of the best things I\u2019ve ever done; almost my favourite, really. What sounds don\u2019t I really like very much any more? I got tired of Heaven Knows I\u2019m Miserable Now pretty quick. As much for the music as anything else. What else? I know Reel Around the Fountain is a big, big song for some people, but I fell out of love with that fairly quick. I don\u2019t want to ruin it for people but, yeah, those two songs I could live without.
Debbie Harry, singer
How has the global pandemic changed your sources of inspiration?
I\u2019ve just come out of this two-year period having made a double album. But to be honest, it was time for me to make a record anyway. I went into the pandemic with this idea for an album called Fever Dreams. I\u2019d started a few songs already, but then broke off to do the James Bond movie. Then the pandemic started and I definitely didn\u2019t want to make a lockdown record and be singing about the stores not being open and anti-vaxxers or any of that. But the psychology of that time and how it was affecting me and my thinking, and how that might be the same for my audience, fed into the album entirely.
Jason Williamson, lead vocalist of Sleaford Mods
As someone who broke into music in their 40s, how do you navigate pushing forward in an industry that mostly values youth?
I\u2019m maybe being over-idealistic here, but I think that people or fans of music recognise an artist\u2019s agenda and possibly their motivation. You can tell a lifer when you see them. And Sleaford Mods are a really good example of that. In a way, the fact that you can be still bothered with all the bullshit involved in a modern career says quite a lot about you, I think. It\u2019s as simple as that.
What do you think about being considered a fashion icon, particularly among some groups of current teenagers? Daisy, 22, Liverpool
Well, these days, you just cross your fingers and hope for the best. Me and my sister got into clothes really young, like eight or nine. Growing up on a housing estate, it\u2019s something to share and be in competition and get noticed and obsess about. And it\u2019s never really left me. But it all comes from an interest in style and design, I think, not vanity. So I\u2019m glad some people are noticing. Because otherwise, I\u2019ve wasted a lot of my time.
Guy Garvey, musician
I heard you were collecting art long before the Smiths took off \u2013 is that true?
Yeah, it is, but it was stuff from junk shops. The most valuable stuff was some Man Ray and David Bailey photographs that I picked up on an excursion to Covent Garden in this crappy little junk shop. But the first thing I got into when the Smiths took off was collecting books, buying first editions. People like Isherwood, Huxley, Bernard Shaw, Gurdjieff. It wasn\u2019t anything to do with an investment; I just figured if I was going to educate myself, I might as well be holding a really nice artefact.
Hans Zimmer, composer
Which painters have influenced your sound the most?
I suppose it\u2019s obvious, or obvious to me: Robert Rauschenberg, Jasper Johns, David Hockney, Cy Twombly, Paul Klee. With David Hockney, it\u2019s a sense of being wide awake, his sense of inquiry and joy and curiosity. David Shrigley has got this sense of knowing about him, and he\u2019s funny. I also think Tracey Emin is really deserving of her reputation. In some ways the noise around her persona gets in the way of the actual work sometimes. Maybe I can relate to that!
Andy Burnham, mayor of Greater Manchester
Did the Smiths ever fall out over football or politics?
We never discussed football so that\u2019s that. And we never fell out over politics, but we probably would now.
Morrissey\u2019s recent political views have cast a shadow over the Smiths for me \u2013 reaching back into the past and tainting something that was very important to me. I\u2019m so disappointed in him. Has it impacted how you feel about the Smiths or are you able to separate the past from the present, the band from the man? I find it very difficult to do so. Johnny Spence, Northern Ireland
It hasn\u2019t impacted how I feel about the Smiths. That\u2019s all I can say about that. I\u2019m certainly able to separate the past from the present. I don\u2019t know whether you can separate the band from the man, but I can separate myself from the man and what I did, so when I do see how disappointed people are, it really does make me sad. But it\u2019s completely out of my control. And I can only really do what is in my control. So I play Smiths songs for reasons that I think are real. And over the years I\u2019ve tried to take care of the catalogue and the releases as much as I was able to. As I would have done anyway. So, you know, I see it the way everybody else sees it. I don\u2019t have any answers. And I don\u2019t want to have any answers.
Nabihah Iqbal, musician and writer
Where do you go to think?
I go to a room in my house for half an hour in the morning and half an hour at night and meditate. I\u2019ve done that for 20 years. It still doesn\u2019t get any easier for anyone who\u2019s thinking of taking it up, but it works, it does work. Most people use running to unwind, but for some reason, I just get more rewound and get a lot of ideas. I certainly don\u2019t zone out. But, yeah, either meditating or running.
Bernard Butler, musician
We have both had many casual musical flings but one very strong personal bond in our lives. How has your relationship with the wonderful Angie influenced your creativity, and does she have a favourite guitar?
I\u2019ll answer the easy bit first: Angie\u2019s always loved Les Pauls. That\u2019s to do with when we first met \u2013 she was 14 and I was 15. We were into Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers, so she became bit of a Gibson fan. I\u2019ve had a Gold Top guitar for 20-odd years and I think if I\u2019ve ever got rid of that one, she\u2019d leave me. The important thing I can say about my relationship with Angie is that she made me brave at 15, 16. Not only did Angie know me before everybody else knew me, but she knew me before I knew myself. She was there before the Smiths started: it was me and Angie. And then when that whole thing got together, it was me and Angie and Joe Moss [the late manager of the Smiths]. Not only was I with my soulmate, but I was with somebody who was very smart and very talented.
Lottie Pendlebury, singer and guitarist of Goat Girl
I feel that listening to the Smiths growing up and hearing your guitar playing was crucial to my understanding of the guitar and how to approach it, as I can imagine it was for many others. Who were your main influences growing up and what kind of techniques did they provide you with?
Wow. Well, first off, it\u2019s great to get a question from Lottie because she\u2019s one of my favourite musicians to come out over the last few years. Whenever I hear a Goat Girl track and I don\u2019t know it\u2019s them, I\u2019ll say to whoever I\u2019m with: \u201cI really like this, who\u2019s this?\u201d And it\u2019s always Goat Girl;I should know by now. So I\u2019m chuffed about that. The biggest influence on me would have to be Bert Jansch. When I was about 14, a friend of mine told me he\u2019d got into this folk group called Pentangle. And I immediately thought: \u201cWell, OK, I don\u2019t need to know any more about that.\u201d Anyway, when I was round at his house, he played me Basket of Light by Pentangle. And I couldn\u2019t believe what I heard, especially from the guitar: it was jazzy, it was bluesy and kind of funky, it went off all over the place. I could see straight away that there are people who are influenced by Bert Jansch that don\u2019t even know it. Anyone who got into Nick Drake \u2013 totally into Bert. Anyone who got into Led Zeppelin\u2019s acoustic stuff, Neil Young, Donovan, therefore the Beatles. No Bert Jansch, no Back to the Old House, no Unhappy Birthday, even my electric stuff. So it runs all the way through what I was doing in the Smiths. All roads lead back to Bert Jansch.
Maxine Peake, actor
You really are a musical chameleon \u2013 would you ever consider becoming an actor? If so, what would be your preferred medium: film, TV or stage? I personally think you would be a natural.
Do you know what, Maxine? Telly or film, I\u2019m not fussy. I\u2019d like to play a menacing, villainous eastern European gangster or a drug dealer. One or the other, as long as it\u2019s not a fucking musician from Manchester in the 80s. That\u2019s about the depth of my range. Or if Robert Downey Jr decides to retire I\u2019ll just take his gig \u2013 got the same haircut.
It\u2019s apparent that you keep getting better and better with age. Can you speak to the role that removing alcohol from your life has played in that? Mike Shennan, Ontario, Canada
Giving up alcohol has played a massive part in the last 20-odd years of my life, from day one. Without getting judgy, because people get very touchy about this shit, I can really recommend it. I\u2019m not coming from a place of abstinence or a place of \u201cmy drink and drugs hell\u201d, but for me, I just thought it was a shit drug, and other drugs were better. No, seriously, if anyone gave me a pill that would make me feel that shitty the next day and say such stupid things then I just wouldn\u2019t be taking it.
Neil Tennant, musician
You\u2019ve played on orchestral film soundtracks \u2013 do you ever listen to or take inspiration from classical guitar music?
I don\u2019t, to be honest, no. Whenever I\u2019ve been recommended classical music \u2013 once or twice by Neil in fact \u2013 I\u2019ve enjoyed it. But it\u2019s just a little bit too formal for me. I like the guitar to do everything but formal. I\u2019m aware that it can be dramatic and expressive, but whenever I\u2019ve listened to Julian Bream or something like that, it has always felt just too stiff to me.
I was at Glastonbury in 2019 when you played There Is a Light That Never Goes Out at the end of your set. Without wanting to sound too gushy and obsessive, men and women in their 40s and 50s were openly crying, I guess because it felt like you were giving us permission to love these songs again. What is going through your head when you perform these songs? Do you feel any sadness or regret, or do you feel that you are claiming them fresh, as yours? Lindsay Wright, London
I\u2019ve been asked about claiming the Smiths songs quite a lot before and I\u2019m not doing that. Because I\u2019m a musician, I\u2019m thinking about joy and about giving people that I like something they love. I feel like their sort of leader, conducting everybody. Of course I\u2019m aware that there\u2019s a lot of different meanings going on for people, and I experience this huge wave of elation, there\u2019s no doubt about it. After just a few seconds, I\u2019m just joining along with everybody else really. It\u2019s no deeper than that. But I don\u2019t think I need to claim anything, because I wrote them.
Bobby Gillespie, musician
When you left the Smiths you said you\u2019d like to be like Nils Lofgren. It was something I instantly understood, but could you explain to non-Nils fans what you meant?
Never been asked that before;trust Bobby. My introduction to Nils Lofgren was in the 1970s and finding out that he was a young, hyperactive ace guitar player who had been brought in as a ringer for Neil Young\u2019s Tonight\u2019s the Night. He was little, like me, and a great singer. Then in the 80s, he was playing with Bruce Springsteen. So I guess really what Bobby was understanding was this idea of the ringer. I always found that really attractive: John McGeoch did it when he went from Magazine to the Banshees to Public Image; Ronnie Wood did it when he went from the Faces to the Rolling Stones. Nile Rodgers has done it with countless groups. And I was relating to that, really, as a way for me out of this shitstorm that was the Smiths split.
You\u2019ve recently collaborated with one of today\u2019s most popular artists, Billie Eilish, on the brilliant track No Time to Die, which won a Grammy. Are you planning on doing another collaboration like this? I would love to see you work with Taylor Swift, who you recently tweeted about playing your signature Jaguar guitar! Paula, Malaga, Spain
Well, I can\u2019t think of one collaboration that I\u2019ve done over 40 years that I went after. They all come about by being invited by always very interesting people. When me and my band were listening to Billie\u2019s first record on the tour bus, I had no idea that I was going to be doing the Bond song with her that would get to No 1. So it\u2019s quite likely that some other stuff is going to happen that I don\u2019t know about. That window is always open for me, for whoever it is.
Pauline Black, singer
My favourite track on your new album, Fever Dreams Pts 1-4, is Ariel. The music and the lyrics successfully mesh together with a convincing, almost dark intention. You have spoken about getting in touch with your \u201cfeminine side\u201d on this album. Sylvia Plath, who wrote the astonishing collection of poems Ariel, and who you\u2019ve said in interviews influenced this song, very much turned upside down the notion of \u201cfeminine\u201d as it was understood in 1965. So I am interested to know how you embrace your \u201cfeminine side\u201d in this new age of gender politics in 2022?
Well, I was brought up with a sister who\u2019s 11 months younger than me. And we are incredibly close. And I\u2019ve been with my wife since I was 15. And I\u2019ve got a daughter who\u2019s now 27. As well as that, I\u2019ve worked with some really amazing women like Chrissie Hynde and Kirsty MacColl. So it\u2019s never really been too difficult to have an awareness of the life that the women around me might be living. I think there are a lot of men out in the world right now who are really enjoying the opportunity to be part of a change. It\u2019s an exciting time of, hopefully, enlightenment. Now I\u2019m aware that plenty of people might scoff at that and think I\u2019m being naive, but speak for yourself! But I\u2019m really glad Pauline clicked with Ariel, because if that\u2019s coming across, that\u2019s good, because it\u2019s there.
Billy Bragg, singer-songwriter and activist
You once told me that your unique guitar style was just \u201cMartin Carthy licks sped up\u201d. How influential was traditional folk music on your development as a musician?
Well, to follow on from Lottie\u2019s question, because of that introduction to Bert, you then need to know about Davey Graham and Martin Carthy. This was just before punk, and compared with the heavy rock that my mates were getting into, the more radical folk stuff just sounded much more interesting and tougher and less straight to me. But \u201cMartin Carthy sped up\u201d is actually quite a good way of describing what I was doing, with the equipment of the Patti Smith Group. The idea of folk music played through punk gear was really modern, but \u2013 I also should insert here \u2013 with the chord changes of the girl groups. My technique was folk playing, but harmonically I was going for Phil Spector music, with gear that my peers were using.
Which book has had the biggest impact on you and why?
Sarah Corbyn, Essex
I\u2019d say The Outsider by Colin Wilson, because it\u2019s the ultimate explanation of a certain kind of mindset that I\u2019ve had, that I\u2019ve recognised in myself from being a kid and maybe even a predicament sometimes in my own thinking, my own life. Or The Bhagavad Gita, which Chrissie Hynde introduced me to, because you can read it and read it and read it, and then keep doing it for thousands of lifetimes.
Chris Packham, naturalist
Johnny, the world is in a big mess but me and some of my equally defiant mates are determined to make a last stand for life. We will probably end up on a muddy hill surrounded by those who just don\u2019t care. Facing such odds, will you be willing to provide the rallying song to stir our hearts in the time of ultimate darkness?
No pressure there then! I think even if I was to be ambitious enough to try and tackle a song on a big level, if it happened, it would be by accident. The last song on the new album, Human, is the closest I\u2019ve got to writing something like that. It\u2019s the most stirring song I\u2019ve written myself on my own. But now I think of it, I\u2019d either do it by accident or, yeah, I\u2019ll try and accept the challenge!
Harry Hill, comedian
Johnny, out of 10 what would you give me for my turn as Mozzer on Celebrity Stars in Their Eyes? [Hill sang This Charming Man.] PS: if you and the fellas ever decide to regroup and his nibs won\u2019t play ball, I still have the wig \u2013 and more importantly, the hearing aid.
I sort of remember that. I\u2019m going to have to give Harry a solid two out of 10 for that, and he can make of that what he will. As for the offer, I don\u2019t even know what to make of that\u2026!
What are you most looking forward to in 2022? Gemma Faulkner, London
Well, the obvious thing is playing concerts. Human contact. I\u2019m very fortunate that in my life I have strangers say hello to me on the street. And plenty of them just say \u201cHi\u201d and walk on \u2013 they don\u2019t need to do selfies or anything like that. There was a time probably leading up to the pandemic that I was a little overwhelmed with selfies. And after a couple of years, I\u2019m not saying: everybody come and take a selfie \u2013 but I\u2019m looking forward to human contact on a large scale.
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Johnny Marr\u2019s new double album, Fever Dreams Pts 1-4, is released on 25 February via BMG. Marr tours UK arenas with Blondie starting at Glasgow\u2019s SSE Hydro, 22 April
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+ "page_snippet": "So, yes, I think we can add that to the list of statements made over the years by Marr to the effect that The Smiths will never ever get back together. He and Morrissey wouldn\u2019t just ring each other up, go and hang out in a pub, and then get on so well that they decide to get the band together ...Anyway, these days noted lover of bands Johnny Marr is focussing on his solo career. Earlier this week he released new single \u2018Night And Day\u2019, taken from new album \u2018Fever Dreams Parts 1-4\u2019, which is out on 25 Feb. READ MORE ABOUT: Johnny Marr | Morrissey | The Smiths So, yes, I think we can add that to the list of statements made over the years by Marr to the effect that The Smiths will never ever get back together. He and Morrissey wouldn\u2019t just ring each other up, go and hang out in a pub, and then get on so well that they decide to get the band together again. Except that time they did just that. Thankfully it never came to anything though. Anyway, these days noted lover of bands Johnny Marr is focussing on his solo career. Johnny Marr has said that he\u2019s still great pals with every single one of the many people he\u2019s been in bands with over the years. Oh, \u201cexcept for the obvious one\u201d. \u201cIt\u2019s a simplistic way of putting it, but one of the reasons I\u2019ve been in so many bands was because I wanted to be loyal to them\u201d, Marr tells Uncut. After leaving The Smiths in 1987, Marr went on to join numerous other bands, including The Pretenders, The The, Electronic, 7 Worlds Collide, Modest Mouse and The Cribs.",
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Johnny Marr mates with all his former bandmates, \u201cexcept for the obvious one\u201d
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By Andy Malt | Published on Friday 14 January 2022
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Johnny Marr has said that he\u2019s still great pals with every single one of the many people he\u2019s been in bands with over the years. Oh, \u201cexcept for the obvious one\u201d.
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\u201cIt\u2019s a simplistic way of putting it, but one of the reasons I\u2019ve been in so many bands was because I wanted to be loyal to them\u201d, Marr tells Uncut. \u201cIt won\u2019t come as any surprise when I say that I\u2019m really close with everyone I\u2019ve worked with – except for the obvious one. And that isn\u2019t that much of a surprise because we\u2019re so different, me and Morrissey. But all of these different musicians, I can pick up the phone to any one, and just pick up from where we left off\u201d.
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After leaving The Smiths in 1987, Marr went on to join numerous other bands, including The Pretenders, The The, Electronic, 7 Worlds Collide, Modest Mouse and The Cribs.
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\u201cEveryone I\u2019ve worked with has been great\u201d, he goes on. \u201cThe only thing that turned to shit was The Smiths. Which is a shame, but shit happens. I hate talking about the group I formed in those terms, the group I loved. But, you know, let\u2019s get some perspective\u201d.
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So, yes, I think we can add that to the list of statements made over the years by Marr to the effect that The Smiths will never ever get back together. He and Morrissey wouldn\u2019t just ring each other up, go and hang out in a pub, and then get on so well that they decide to get the band together again. Except that time they did just that. Thankfully it never came to anything though.
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Anyway, these days noted lover of bands Johnny Marr is focussing on his solo career. Earlier this week he released new single\u00a0\u2018Night And Day\u2019, taken from new album \u2018Fever Dreams Parts 1-4\u2019, which is out on 25 Feb.
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