diff --git "a/1e2waxo.json" "b/1e2waxo.json" new file mode 100644--- /dev/null +++ "b/1e2waxo.json" @@ -0,0 +1,2670 @@ +[ + { + "text": "So bizarre to see the crowd react like they did. There was a short moment where there was confusion and some people ducked but as soon as they saw Trump being dragged off stage the crowd began cheering and got their phones out in the air. To think there was an active shooter amongst them and people in the crowd were shot but these people were hardly affected and started cheering. Is this just an American thing where gun violence doesn’t worry them?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Security said “shooter down” before Trump did his fist bump and crowded cheered", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Full vid is up on twitter", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think they were cheering his reaction. Irrelevant if you like him or not you know that had a massive effect.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Essentially a type of shock response.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They were at a rally, defaulted to doing rally things.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I’m sure most of them were quite deeply affected by the shooting.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- Phones out recording", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- Chanting `USA USA USA` after he was shot", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Looks like every day America to me.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nope.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It was a classic America \"fuck yeh\" moment.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "One that will go down in history.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump's reaction to being shot was one of the most gangster moves I have ever seen from a politician.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://preview.redd.it/nbc8ow9rggcd1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84622d8baa6ce367caf5f2b73770ea1366e488ec", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The assassination attempt has more than likely won him the election.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If they had succeeded, it would have probably started a civil war.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Reaction? I find the whole political system in America is like watching an alternate universe from afar and it makes me proud to be Australian and have the political system we have even with all its flaws.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As far as the crowd were concerned, the shooter was down and the threat was over, and Trump was not just alive but defiant. Why shouldn't they cheer?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The reaction of the crowd was the most normal thing in the world. For most of the people in the crowd, they wouldn't even have registered a shooting for ten or twenty seconds, then some confusion \"has the shooting stopped? is it safe? should I run? how can I run, I'm surrounded in a crowd...\" and then *before they can even make their mind up to panic* there are no more gun shots and they can hear the Secret Service agents call the All Clear and evacuate Trump from the stage.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You've probably heard gunshots before, or something that sounds like a gunshot, and then spent thirty seconds or a minute feeling kinda foolish \"was that a gunshot? should I duck and hide? I'd feel like a dickhead if I dived to the ground and it turned out to be nothing...\"", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The crowd was no different except in their case diving to the ground wasn't even an option.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Crowd mentality, once he was clearly fine and raised his fist in the air it was a show of strength and confidence that rippled through them. Teddy Roosevelt moment.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't want him to win at all, but it was brilliant optics wise and will likely secure his win for the presidency. While on the other hand, you got Biden, looking pathetic in the news cycle over and over again due to his debate performance.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not really. I’d probably cheer if someone I considered a leader survived an assassination attempt and gestured defiantly, whilst news of the assassins demise was given.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why are you trying to frame this weirdly whilst omitting a lot of context?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's a conspiracy and absolutely everyone was involved. The entire crowd. The secret service. Trump. Even the shooter. It's so obvious!!! - says people who called other's cookers.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "not weird at all. they will tell their grandkids about being there. it was an incredibly pivotal moment in american (and honestly, world) history and they probably knew it, even if it hadnt quite sunk in yet", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Merica, pew pew!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Sorry, but did old mate think he was dead and then realise he wasn't? \"Let me get my shoes\"?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think there was genuine relief in tbe crowd he wasn't hurt, there were a lot of shots, and people quickly realised who the target was.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Bad news anyone getting shot at but you have to hand it to him 77 years old missed a fatal head shot literally by millimetres & he's punching the air to show his determination & the crowd he's alright, that's pretty strong stuff", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Understanding that shots rang out but surrounded by police and snipers. They understand that the crowd wasn’t targeted so it’s “okay” not to panic… they were use to it from the first time when that kid rushed the stage during Trumps first election run.. unlike a mall shooting/stabbing, where you don’t have safety assured or know who and where, thats when you run.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well Trumps team has been requesting additional secret service resources for some time now as they were concerned about his security. Biden repeatedly denied their request though", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Maybe need to start using drones with cameras for surveillance over buildings.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "USA! USA!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I thought it was a pretty badass reaction to getting shot. The man knows how to spin a situation.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Seppos are a strange breed. But yea they are conditioned to shootings. Its normal for them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nah. I think it's one of those seeing their \"leader\" keep calm kept them calm.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Various other things but I reckon it's that", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They are brave ppl. Australians would not understand that.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It seems so normalised to the point where nobody is surprised that someone tried to shoot this man in broad daylight.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm hoping for the plot twists that he reforms gun laws after getting into office, after using gun nuts to vote him in.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Where are 10,000 people supposed to run to all at once? I saw people ducking and lying down for cover. Thats probably the best you can do in that situation.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How gangster is Trump!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Meanwhile in Australia. The politicians are putting the people in debt, making them homeless, outright corruption and condemned generations to hardship.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Every day, 327 people are shot in the United States.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Of those, on average, 117 will die. U.S.A!!!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "We are at an age of absolute stupidity tbh.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I feel like he was already going to win. Biden is senile AF I'm surprised he got in considering all the kid sniffing. But swapping him now basically doomed their campaign due to funding alone.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I just think it's insane how normalised gun violence is in the US.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They seem prepared but also unprepared at the same time.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Amazing how it went in one ear and clipped the other on the way out.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why are you so obsessed with America? Relax bro and mind your Australian business.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "wow he is so incredibly lucky to have survived that!!! crazy to think it hit his ear....", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If they had continued to hear shots, it would have been chaos. The shots were fired in quick succession before anyone knew what was happening and then the shooter was quickly subdued, with secret service chatter even making it over the microphone as they huddled around Trump.They knew there was no risk after they realized what had happened.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The first they saw of him after he hit the deck was emerging from the security in a triumphant pose.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The roar of the crowd in that moment is pretty real and relatable.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The right is ready for a fight now,.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As Australians, I wish this did not make more than one day of conversation in our lives.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The \"USA\" chant made it comical", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I am not surprised, trump can shit in front of them and they’ll chant USA USA USA", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Probably an inside attempt to have Trump taken out otherwise the shooter would have been taken out before he even got one boot on that roof top", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Anyone know what sort of gun the shooter had? It sounds like a spud gun (not that I know anything about guns - but if it was an air rifle then it's a bit amateur hour). Also did the person who was in the crowd get killed by the shooter or by the SS shooting back and hence got caught in the crossfire?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "By all accounts he was shot. Update your code bot, the whole glass theory was floating around maybe 15 minutes after the shooting and was quickly ignored when facts came out.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I was saying this to my partner, conservatives have become unhinged. Imagine Albanese got shot, and before anyone knew what was happening the crowd starting chanting \"Aussie aussie aussie!\". You would be super weirded out. It's actually cult-like.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Luckily it's not like we've ever seen this intense level of devotion in fans right before an openly fascist white-supremacist has received their second term. So probably not anything I would worry about", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I thought the right were the conspiracy theorists, jeepers.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The US was at war in Afghanistan and Iraq for over 2 decades.  There's an awful lot of older Americans that have served in active combat.  Not their first time being under live fire", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The twitter and other ‘social’ propaganda has already begun. The purge is on schedule. Fuck em all at this point… the “land of the free” is lost.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They got the message loud and clear but were not going to be intimidated. It was an inspiring moment.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If u can't see why it was very strategic for one of the most popular rock stars to be drafted....well you're just not bright are you.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They think the whole Presidency is a reality TV show.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I've lived in America for several years. After awhile, guns and shooting aren't that scary. I see open carry in starbucks and my friends practise at the gun range every weekend. Conversations about guns and ammos are daily occurrences. The daily news is full of gun violence so I mean eventually you are unperturbed by it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think the reactions were all very human.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don’t know the exact details by the minutes but Police and even secret service are also human. Being told by a member of the public that someone is climbing onto a roof a little distance away might not have immediately rang the alarm bells (when it should have) for that officer. Complacency might have suggested it was just a punter wanting a better view or have been dismissed as a bad taste joke by a member of the public.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Even the secret service snipers who would have spotted him would have hesitated when seeing someone carrying something that may or may not be a firearm (imagine opening fire on someone with a sun umbrella). They would have needed a minute or two to confirm the threat by that stage it way too late, as it played out shots were fired and were met with an immediate response. Also assuming there was or could have only been One shooter, massive mistake.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Failing by security staff all around and I imagine it’ll be a case study for years to come.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Regarding the public we’ve seen many times even within Australia with immediate threat incidents that people don’t respond in the most effective way, most times it’s too late before someone realises the danger they’re in and know they need to run. You can see this in the video that people think the noise is fireworks, people are even laughing as if there’s some sort of joke happening and the majority just freeze or keep looking through their recording phones disassociated from real life in front of them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don’t think anyone knew what was happening or going on at the time.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He got shot at and yet was still alive", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes - it seemed way too calm", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Obviously it was an inside job. They had eyes on the shooter and let him have his shits and then took him out so he couldn't snitch", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Considering what the combined IQ of the crowd would be, no.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I love making up my own conspiracys (just how my mind works). But it all seems a bit strange.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "My theory is the why it could be staged...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why...It makes Trump look good, ring's along with JFK theories that Trump is up against the establishment, his brave fist pump ect , the event would of gotten him more votes and solidified his support.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The how , well 1st off we have to remember Trump has done time in the show biz industry to puting on a show is nothing new.* When the bullet(some say glass) went past/hit his ear he brushed his hand and when it came down there was now blood on it , not conclusive but odd.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "*When he drops to the ground and is surrounded by security staff this would be a good time to apply the fake blood.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "*The crowd is super dence behind him, now it's hard to tell the tradgectry of the bullet but doesn't look like anyway behind him was shot and reports are that a member of the public was shot.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "*Now with the shooter this is kinda another conspiracy on top but I think for a pretty long time the CIA n agency alike have had the ability to single out and essential brainwash/manipulate lone wolf attackers to essential be used in false flag attacks.With the gun all I can think of it has given to him by a agents that was helping radicalise him n had been made to be no lethal. This theory ties into why the police were slow to act ect.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Now I know this is all pretty far fetched and I'm just going off the 1st few early reports but it did just seem off.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Pulling this off seems far fetched too but when your talking about the president of America alot is at stake. Mega Billions so is within reason. When you are talking this much money and power pretty much anything is possible and the crazier the false flag is the better job it will do at achieving the desired out come.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Reminds me of the kid on Billy Madison...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "*o\"doyle rules* ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Where did the bullet go that struck Trumps ear? Did it go on to injure someone else?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So close yet so far.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Also the shooter was a sniper I believe", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The whole rule it was even happening some didn’t duck. One guy behind and one to the right bent over slightly that was it. That stunned me, I’d be flat down on the ground.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "*", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The formation surrounding him was a joke. And the shortest person in front? And them all crouching down instead of encapsulating him? Do they not practice their formations? On top of no drones. On top of the fact they had snipers positioned looking for these exact threats, and this threat was clearly visible. On top of the fact that attendees reported that they saw the shooter FROM THE GROUND, yet SS with a bird's eye view didn't. Don't know yet who set this up, but you won't convince me it was just some 20 year old, typical looking fanatic.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "*", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The cheered because now they can fight back and made him a living martyr", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The crowd are getting their cues from Trump. After the shooter is down, Trump wants to play to the crowd by standing tall, fist pumping, shouting fight, etc - even though there might be other shooters and his SS detail is still trying to protect his body with their own (what a sacrifice) while they struggle to escort him off stage and to safety.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I found it weird that about the time they were loading trump into the car the crowd can be seen yelling “fuck you” and giving the bird to the cameras.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah it was weird. I couldn't stop watching the stoner looking dude in the bowler hat. He was unfazed.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You never know how people will react in a volatile situation like that. Take into account the general energy of the crowd at the time given the fact that Trump really likes to get people riled up and I don't think it's too crazy.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The whole situaiton makes me feel super blessed to live in Australia!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Smells like a set up to me", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I would think Australians would react this way also, mostly because the idea of an active shooter is so... alien.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It looked surreal. I mean, there was a man smiling and waving at the camera in front of the podium almost immediately after the shots were fired, before Trump was escorted off the stage.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I was amazed at the attitude of the crowd too. Trumps hair product must be bulletproof hey. Surprising how quick the Secret Service shooters can take the shooter too, almost like they knew he was there. mmmmm!?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes. Bizarre...I thought so the moment I saw video", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "When they chanted ‘USA’ was wild", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They started cheering USA. I dont know if they were happy for trump or happy that the shooter got to exercise his 2nd amendment rights.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The people behind slightly ducking ? Some still upright . Low IQ I guess", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Where exactly was the shooter ? In the crowd or on a roof etc", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I agree, so calm. I would of been running away", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How can a 20yo ANTIFA person had a ladder & AR15 only 120 mts away and the protection service did not notice anything, not to mention people calling out there is a shooter on the roof there there like really could they done a better job", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "A simple drone fly over or even just has every roof with in 500mts secured or had a security detail the day before check out the site, very amteurish", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This will be examined for years. There will be a book. There will be a movie. All funds and royalties paid to Trump, who thought he might try the sympathy vote.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I hope Trump loses….his life", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It baffled me too but I never heard gunshots in a suburb in my life until spending a couple weeks in the states! I think they’re just used to it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The whole thing was staged. A rouse to win votes from the dumbest people on the planet. The FBI are not that stupid to not canvass all surrounding buildings. The FBI don't react to a shooter within seconds and yet kill him from over 100m away, behind trees and lying flat on an edge of a building. And suddenly no footage what so ever other than front on videos, yet camera people right between Trump and the shooter. Come on! This was staged 100%.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't know. Is there a particular way people are supposed to react to an attempted assassination of a former president? 🤔", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Eh, they’re just desensitised to attempted murder.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "An American thing? You obviously don't watch youtube. Or understand people. Americans are people. And even in their movies in gunfire prone areas they duck run and cover. Just like they would in real life. But you know that. That's why you asked the question.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump has been the target of malicious litigation and rumours since first running for president. It's likely that his supporters assumed that the shooter was a leftist and were demonstrating that they would not be cowed by threats or violence. Note that the actual motives of the shooter remain unclear for now.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Just wish they’d been more accurate. Trump is a hatemongering POS who appeals to the lowest common denominator of thought. The crowd sounded like baboons. Which is what they are on par with for critical thinking.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Time to start calling this a False Flag Operation, to really piss off the Magas. “Oh, he was on the roof, visible to the crowd, and police were told, and ignored it?…Obviously a plant.”…”Semi automatic rifle, one person dead, another wounded?…Obviously firing blanks.”…”GOP not talking about person killed in the crowd?…Obviously a Crisis Actor.”…”Biden given blanket immunity for ‘Presidential Acts’, including assassination of political rivals…Sends 20yo in glasses, not Seal Team 6?…Obviously this is a distraction from trump being named 69 times in the Epstein Files. Wake up sheeple!”", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "No it’s certainly not an American thing. It’s a Trump follower thing, I guess. I would’ve surely been under my seat crying.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Having bullets fly towards you is so out of the ordinary for most of us that when it happens we have no idea how to react and are in instant denial. My take anyway.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So lost is this country they have lost any site of the ball and grip on reality. So obsessed with left and right both blaming each other for all there home grown issues. It’s led to a situation that a bunch of right wing Trump supporters at his rally can watch a man climb on a roof with a riffle. Get himself into position over 20mins and the best they can do is a few half attempts at telling security when they do nothing. They go straight to the blame game. Not one person put up a display of urgency to warn trump themselves. They all just watched it happen happy in the thought someone else would be blamed. What happened to all those gun carrying walking arms lockers that suggest everyone is safe around them because they carry weapons and will therefore gun down and gunman like this.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump was thrown under the bus by his so called supporters. You have seen and heard so many of them. Even backing up the own part in there part with footage. They gave a half attempt at calling out to security and then watched for 20mins as this guy got himself into position took aim and fired. They sat there and filmed the lot and did nothing but give commentary on how nothing was being done. They just watch the snippet take aim and shoot, all this crowd are accomplices not one single person though trump worthy of running to warn him yourself. They are more interested in Biden being blamed", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Murricaaaaaaaaaaa 🤣", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It seems 99% of everyone has there blinkers on?? Trump is a Psychopathic Lunatic. Who knows what he is capable of, no one really. Thats the problem, even worse is that he has attracted the worst of the worst to support him, Now you can imagine with the worlds largest military force at their disposal and your starting to see the picture. Not to mention project 2025 which includes MASS DEPORTATION PLANS, ever heard of concentration camps. The Republican Party has gone full MAGA now, and due to Trump having pushed through Presidential Immunity with his corrupt Judges it makes him a literally King, worse still a King who is completely nuts.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Now sitting here in poor little Australia with our tiny army and tiny population, just think where will we be with the USA being our strategic protective backstop against all of Asia. He could wake up one day and go i cant stand how Australia has such an important strategic location, or i cant stand the Prime Minister. OK we'll cut them loose, bye bye.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I could go on, but truthfully we are all sleep walking. Follow these guys if you really care about the future of the planet. We are an island but we all share the same small blue dot guys.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "PS Australia media has completely lost objectivity on this situation.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If your an American Citizen vote BLUE all the way. Destroy Trumps insane plans and we can all look towards a brighter more peaceful future for everyone.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.youtube.com/@MeidasTouch](https://www.youtube.com/@MeidasTouch)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.youtube.com/@LukeBeasley](https://www.youtube.com/@LukeBeasley)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichaelCohenShow](https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichaelCohenShow)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.youtube.com/@briantylercohen](https://www.youtube.com/@briantylercohen)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The tolerant left…", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They just won the election for Trump.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oooooh, lets get a conspiracy going.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "if they listen to to jibberish that comes out of his mouth i dont think they care about their own safety", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's because they are fucking mental. I don't care if they showed me the mutilated corpse of the shooter, I'd still relocate to a safer area for a beer and a sit. I hate Trump, I'm glad he's ok and sad for the killed/injured. His supporters though, the smart ones are borderline retarded and the rest must struggle to breathe without assistance.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What’s with the moronic chanting?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I find it fucking hilarious, but also a little bit insane, that a bunch of bullets were shot, two people got killed, a president hopeful was almost assassinated - and the crowd starts chanting USA. Like, these patriots just witnessed the most American thing ever and they feel the urge to start the USA chant. It's comedy.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Republican Americans aren't known for being cowards", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not at all surprising. ‘Murica 🥴", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It was just bizarre watching people react to a shooting as it’s a common thing. That says plenty about their lifestyle. And people talking calmly like it’s all normal and ok.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Just glad I live here and not in the US. I prefer this “normal” any day.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And a 20 year old doing that; thinking about makes me sad. That at 20, they feel there is no way out of a situation and this is the solution. He has no mental problems, just like any other young person but doing this like it’s the right thing or a possible solution.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Those secret service agents got fired I would think…", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I know this is a conspiracy. But is it possible this was staged? People actually died yes but with everything set up to make trump look like a hero. Like a false flag attack on the president. Some of the more crazy Republicans were saying that the democrats were going to try to assissinate trump (the same ones screeching about voter fraud previously). One of my friends suggested this and it's been at the back my mind since", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Anyone who shows up to this dude's rallies have brain rot. You can't consider their mental state as 'usual'.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I took a course in the US recently, from Canada myself, and one of the modules was \"Active Shooter Training\". It was a bit uncomfortable to say the least how normal this stuff was to my US counterparts, and as I scanned the room at the attentive pupils, I caught the eye of another guy doing the same. We both knew we were Canadian and nodded, and its interesting how we live so close to the US we can see it from our area, but have very different cultural beliefs. Oddly enough we have alot of guns in Canada, I mean alot, but we just dont use them on each other ....as much.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So fukin close yet so fukin far.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It proves without a doubt that MAGA people are as dumb as dogshit.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Too dumb to know any better.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I hope Americans are smart enough to wake up and vote for Trump now.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That’s just crazy - he gets a shot to the head (ear) and he says “let me get my shoes” and he stands up and does a fist bump.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Donald Trumped him", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "My vote for POTUS", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Would of been glorious if that kid could shoot properly", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Shooter was a 20 yr old Registered Republican young adults are over Trumps crazy murderous pedo rapey craziness!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "we gonna hear this shitbag talk about this forever", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "this guys living with plot armour", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Faked.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "All faked.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And I'm going to stick with that", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Are you worried that the crowd did not panic?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How can they panic? It's just another day in the gun mad country.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I wonder if he will chance his pro-gun stance now lol", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They need more guns /s.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I expected trump to go off stage immediately - not to stop and make a fist salute like 'wait! Its a photo op!'.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's a Trump rally, they're morons.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Link please!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How did they know he was the only one so quickly?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Better watch it quick before e-Karen kicks up stink about it lol", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "My first viewing of the video, of the shooting.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As soon as I saw Trump raise his fist, I knew the crowd would cheer. And they cheered.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It was incredible, watching him bloody, immediately after being shot, standing triumphant and defiant,", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Even the female secret service agent in front of him was a foot shorter.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Hollywood couldn’t script any better.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Of course the crowd cheered.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Because they read his “lone wolf manifesto” that he had on him and so were certain there was no further danger to their vip?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Terrible sloppy work, making an assumption there was only a singular threat, then allowing their vip to be clearly visible in the vicinity for an extended period of time.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "\\*The first shooter down.... was all they reasonably could really say for certain (IMO) at that short time after the shots were fired... but sure... it was probably definitely only one guy acting as a lone wolf... that's usually how these things work out. *Stay safe 'Murica.* I mean, unless the security knew for certain there was only one shooter... which suggests prior knowledge of that individual, and a firm understanding of the surrounds... in which case - why not issue a warning first so that Don could duck?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oh.. That makes sense", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump knows how to put on a show for his audience. That he could do it in that moment is actually impressive. A disaster for everyone that it's likely to help him romp in at the election, but impressive nonetheless.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Honestly, thisll be one of the most iconic images of the decade, regardless of politics", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://preview.redd.it/qwyomj1s6gcd1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=716e52df42d7c9d272e53540acd917f2097711c1", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As an American, there was nothing more American than a former president getting shot, surviving, then chant “USA!”", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s actually quite sickening when you think about it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So surreal. Like yeah USA baby the place where politicians are shot at", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Australia would all be on phones too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The chanting was in defiance, it's something you aren't understanding.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Classic Seppos.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I am sure the family of the bystander bloke who got his brains blown out were having a great time too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Smartest person there is little Joe Dirt just over his shoulder.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He seems to be the first and most effective to duck", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Old lady from Something About Mary behind hom not as quick.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I have to say it did have a very powerful rebellious look. Whatever you think about the man, he actually turned it into an iconic moment for himself.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "True bravery to stand up and rally his followers after being shot.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Most politicians would stay cowering", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "startled by \"loud noises\"", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I hope the President is doing well ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He already won when he debated Biden and Biden wasn't mentally there", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I heard about this civil war thing before. Do you mind explaining it a little more? How could a hypothetical assassination lead to mass unrest?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't see how almost getting killed makes someone a better person for office. His policies are not reliant on a failed assassination attempt. If they were then USA is more stuffed than it already was.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't mean to insult anyone but the impression I get is that the American government and legal system is the best anyone could come up with in the 17th century. They modified bits over the years to make it support 20th century ideals but the kernel is still some inefficient and sub optimal mechanisms from nearly 250 years ago.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Which is going to make the slide into tyranny even quicker and more effective than most Americans imagine.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Imagine what it’s like living here", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm travelling in the USA at the moment from Aus, and this is the perfect way of describing it. It is like being on a different planet. But I want to point out that there are loads of people here who are resigned to their fate and see their whole political system as a farce or pantomine", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Me too, cunt.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah I wish I never had to hear about America again", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "For many yrs the only way I could handle America was to think it was on another planet, showing us on earth how not to be. I visited Miami Beach and Anaheim way back in 1981. It was like caricatures were roaming the streets. Everything was blown out of proportion, even the meals in the restaurants. Didn’t need drugs, it was a ‘trip’ in itself.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't think it even clicked to them that bystanders were shot, 1 dead 2 critical, and it seems the media have not even realised it either, rather they are focused on poor Donald's ear ache.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Sitting from the safety of common sense gun laws away more like it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And regardless of anything to do with guns or the shooting. Just look at the crowd, it's a fucking circus. This whole show is insane.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't like the guy and don't support him at all, but if I were there and saw that, I'd cheer, too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Because it’s a strange way to react when there’s literally been an attempted murder and people dead in the crowd.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So true", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Haha. Yes. There are even people on X who believe the gunman was a trump plant who was tasked to just miss and that it was actually a fragment of the teleprompter. Somehow they found some brilliant marksman who could shoot the teleprompter and have a loose shard of that acrylic ricochet and cause the nick….some god level, voodoo ballistic pinball that.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You’re absolutely right.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump knew this - which is why he stood up and made himself as conspicuous as possible (despite him being shot) and did the power sign.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s really *that* historically significant.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think the constant reminders that “we are witnessing history you guys” all feel a bit contrived after you see someone remind you for the millionth time.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Pew S A Pew S A", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Lifts. Let me get my lifts.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "His brain had inches to spare from that bullet", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah... let's not forget this is a country that accepts little kids being shot and murdered in schools... and have training drills for those situations... so yeah.. carry one... nothing see here.... 'Murica being 'Murica.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah, in high-school in the 90's, gang violence was at an all time high. I was chased (in vehicle) and shot at while trying to run. Car hit 6 times. One through the back window breaking through the windshield etc etc. I was 16. Thugs brought little .25 calibre pistols to school daily...honestly it is normal ffs. Ridiculous", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well 34 charges and a rape charge. And 4? Indictment s yeah I guess that's gangster enough for you..", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You can say that about every Western country at this point.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Because politicians know the people can’t do anything to them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Chicken scratch", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "s/", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You’re surprised Biden got in considering the kid sniffing but not surprised Trump got in with the rape, pedophilia, sexual assault, fraud, treason? May I remind you he is also senile and has way more mishaps on a microphone than Biden. Ohhh and Biden and his team has had 4 years of great policy.. what an absolute brain dead take. You’ve done 0 research.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If the crowd was younger they would have been prepared from school shooting drills.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "At the Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl parade this past spring, the adults didn't know what to do but the children stayed calm and directed them because they had been through shooter drills at school while the older generations hadn't.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah you’d think after multiple assassination attempts and assassinations of presidents, they’d do something about gun control, but I guess even the president isn’t that important compared to MAH GuNs!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Interesting take. I would have thought the shooter was a Democrat, but your theory makes sense. Probably a lot of Reps who hate Trump but can’t openly admit it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Reports are saying AR 15, but you can't trust the US corpo press to piss down with the aid of gravity these days, so it could turn out to be nearly any kind of \"black and scawwy\" platform.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The unfortunate casualty was hit by the shooter.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This made me laugh. Just imaging in my head the “Aussie Aussie Aussie, oi, oi, oi.”", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "To be honest, I think in Australia we all HATE our politicians because they’re self serving c)@ts!!! That’s why we wouldn’t chant.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Edited text prediction error.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Spot on!!! And the Germans thought \"I don't like all of him, but he's getting the job done, what's the worst that could happen?\"", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I like to think of it as John Howard and the Boomers...and they definitely wouldn't be doing any of that.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It is weird!!!!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Or maybe they just moved there from Chicago", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "All 260 million of them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Even you had even a kindergarden level of intelligence you would understand it couldnt be even a tiny fraction of the crowd were vets.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "But nope...... your pea brain has come up with \"Trumpers are mostly hardened war veterans\"", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Wait what", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm an American but I'm kind of curious since I haven't seen open carry anywhere here. Where do you live? I do have an uncle who owns a pistol tho lol", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I live in Florida, I've never seen anyone open-carry in public in all my time here. Other than law enforcement of course.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And you're right, guns aren't as big a deal here as people make it seem.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It was probably the towns 5th mass shooting that week. After a while it just becomes part of life Haha!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Also Im really confused why the person who died was carried away before they even cleared everyone out? It’s a crime scene but some people just picked the dead guy up and took him away.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This just makes zero sense to me. Even if they thought by some chance he was still alive and were trying to get him help this wasnt the way to do it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "1 died and another 2 seriously injured. Quite a few shots fired.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "On a rooftop of a nearby building", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://x.com/onlymobking/status/1812342969866850759?s=46&t=kfohDmtzNKZ7Kav3b-NEYA", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The shooter was a registered republican.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Try again.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What about that group of proud boys that all cried when sentenced…. Or how Donny had bone spurs and couldn’t go to war?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Or smart", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How are people reacting to this like it’s a “common thing”? For the ppl who were present, it’s probably a story they’ll tell their grandkids (but who am I kidding? Those ppl are grandparents already).", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Regardless, most Americans will never witness a firearms being shot. The majority don’t even own guns.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Think they reacted normally? Most ducked until it became obvious the shooter was taken care of. Running and trampling on eachother would have made it worse.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Its definately not \"normal\", the average American (350 million) has likely never witnessed a shooting.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This has been suggested. Who knows. Americans are crazy when it comes politics. Guess it will go down as one of those American conspiracy theories that will be forever debated.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah all this seems baffling to us as Australians. The crowd reaction at the rally seems so unnatural to us. It’s like nothing that out of the ordinary happened for them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why would it make a difference. Trump incites violence and makes threats all the time. What goes around comes around. No sympathy for the rapist pedo felon.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So they should vote for a criminal because he was shot at by another criminal? What's your rational behind that?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump is horrible not only for Americans, but for the world.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "We need to move as far away from this right-wing Christofascist nonsense as possible before it's too late.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Voting for Trump is a direct vote against democracy. It's a vote directly supporting a Christofascist takeover.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Conservatism is the direct enemy of progress, by definition.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump is the antithesis of what the world needs.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": ">let me get my shoes", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That could legitimately be a shock response. It's likely he was wearing slip on shoes, that would have come off. And given the confusion and shock, he'd want to put them back on.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The shoes comment was hilarious. He literally could have been dead but was worried about his shoes.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Donald ducked", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Ive already read comments from conservatives saying this is a fake narrative perpetuated by the FBI.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Imagine living a life where you don't believe anything that happens, how sad.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It does seem that way but also that’d be pretty hard to pull off given the public nature of the event and the amount of cameras on it etc.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://x.com/thogge/status/1812271717869670471?s=46&t=QluGFhkJGd6knGt-4Edx7w", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Everyone js scared as shit till security says “shooters down” a few rimes", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I guess they were waiting for people in crowd to point out more shooters and no one did so they concluded all was fine.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Agreed. Hard not to be impressed since he was a centimeter away from death.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Hard!, this was some Westfield shopping centre level type response. I would have expected a more tactical exit regardless of the fact one shooter was down.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This is the part that has me confused too. Very unusual for them to assume only one shooter.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Exactly, roughly 30 seconds after the last shot, they had apparently decided that it was all over and the VIP was safe.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There were a lot of lessons for the secret service from today, but this almost seems to stupid to be real.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I feel like the ability to take a bullet and keep going still stand up like that comes from the person not from an ability to act. I just don't think you can fake that.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't really have a strong opinion on US politics or personalise either way, but", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "To present as a \"leader\" that doesn't fold under pressure and looks death in the eye and says \"fuck you\" is a pretty big win. Especially in a militarist culture like the USA", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'd only guess that if Biden was in that same situation, his reaction would be different.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think he just doesn't know how to do otherwise. If you are always putting on a show I don't think you can just switch that off in a moment of chaos", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I despise the man, but that is one fucking cool photo. They even got the flag in there, you couldn't have put it together better in a studio.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "\"America, fuck yeah!\"", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Micheal bay getting a hard on over this pic right about now lol", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Hints of the ww2 flag raising on Iwo Jima", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If you're literally putting your life on the line for your country. There's no more powerful motivation. I wonder how this changes him...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Definitely the most used meme", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The shirts were for sale immediately", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He milked that moment for all it was worth. I can't be mad, if that was me I'd be sobbing in shock", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes it will, unfortunately.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This is a powerful image because it highlights either how incompetent or complicit the SS is. Shortest person in front, not encapsulating him at all. Epic fail, or completely preplanned.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I thought it was bad ass and was surprised that people so close to a shooting victim were as calm and collected as they were. Chanting USA was the cherry on top of that awesome sundae.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I mean, one of our Prime Ministers literally went for a midnight swim and was never seen again.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think that just means first-world politics are weird.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not just the US, Europe, and Japan have a history of it too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That was my first thought.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Howards gun ban was a mistake. An armed populace is the modern day Sword of Damocles.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This context is totally lost on 90% of Americans.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Classic *MAGAS*", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s hilarious to me that Australians think calling Americans seppos is some kinda burn that we care about. It’s simple minded and lame.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Just a bump on the head and a sore throat.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He’s not the president!!!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yikes. Trump won't live to 2025", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The debate didn't change anything. Anyone who cares enough to watch the debate or even just listen to the political punditry already knows who they are voting for. Swing voters don't watch debates. On the other hand, this assassination attempt will motivate people to actually go out and vote.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The far right has been sharing a lot of civil war messaging. The febrile political climate makes it more likely than before.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Had Trump been assassinated, there are a lot of crazy devotees who would have blamed \"the deep state\", or Biden, or DE&I, or whatever - anyone other than the crazy loner with a gun.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This is why Biden (and many others) are calling for cooler language and more civility in politics - it can get out of control very quickly.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Uh stop looking at events with Australian eyes", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "A lot of his appeal to people who would consider voting for him has absolutely nothing at all with being \"a better person for office\"", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That being said, the current official opponent/only other option within their political framework if you haven't already realised is at best on the cusp of being mentally checked out and therefore would themselves be a horrible choice for office. South Park made jokes about a Turd sandwich and shit taco (or whatever) *years* ago and they are yet again in the same position except one of the Dookie delicacies is worse than before.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I hate trump and everything he stands for but between him and Biden it's really hard to pick who I would prefer to be in control of, say, the US army, nukes, decisions that influence economics internationally, etc", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The US is scuffed and I hope despite Aus showing hints we may be going that way, I hope something stops that being a reality for us, too", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You’re making the mistake of assuming American voters base their decision on logical things like policies. Many don’t. For trump supporters or people on the fence, but highly suspicious and cynical of Washington and the establishment i.e. the silent majority…this “assassination attempt” just fuels the fire of Trump being this fresh, anti establishment rebel who is being cut down for his courage to represent them. Now because of this, the election will be even more emotionally driven, which does not bode well for social cohesion in the US.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I’m no historian but I think they were also trying for a new breed of democracy and one that was a far cry from their roots. A wonderful experiment…..if it works over time.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Condolences", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Living in the US is actually amazing", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "A single person dead and most likely not visible/apparent to most people in the crowd. And once again, after news of the shooters elimination was given. If you paid closer attention to the facts you may find things less strange.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He only stood up AFTER secret service agents gave the all clear and got off him.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "bruh, did you know we are living in a moment in history? just so you know", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I agree. The only way I can see Trump losing now is if it were conclusively proven that Trump himself ordered this as a false flag attack.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That’s why he was so insistent on getting his shoes.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So true!!!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not inches, AN inch.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "People don’t really think about it but any brain damage can really mess you up long term.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If that bullet was an inch different, Trump could either be dead or suffer a life of serious disability.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There’s not many who accept it, I think you’ll find. And my child has training drills at his school, too", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "and every time theres a mass shooting gun sales soar.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's been due for a while now tbh. The last assassination attempt was Bush, 23 years ago. Reagan about 15 years before that and JFK who was killed in 1963.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Meanwhile, 2 British MPs have been killed in the last decade. America is pretty good against assassination attempts.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The shooter was a 20 year old registered Republican.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Who knows what was going on in his mind.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "i think you guys should try it. it would be super funny.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Elvis being drafted increased military support and increased his popularity, especially with the older generation.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I was living in Ohio.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There's a lot. I traveled from California to S Carolina by car and saw it all. Arizona is kinda crazy. Texas doesn't worry me as much. They've been at it for a while", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Most intelligent people these days seem to be lacking courage. Like all of the people who went along with forced vaccinations and lockdowns.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'd argue courage is far rarer than intelligence.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Can't have the public know he's wearing lifts, can he? Lol", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Can't have the public know he's wearing lifts, can he? Lol", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I know!!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "But we know he’s a narcissist (he’s textbook) so him asking for his shoes is pretty hilarious- there’s no way he’s going to the hospital looking bedraggled.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Gotta say, the response is rather impressive.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So gummint is valuable after all?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The crowd of people didn’t hear that with all the conversation going on all around.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah, geez, fuck hey. Guy got a chunk of his ear shot off. Literally a centimetre away from death. A slight movement of the head at the right moment........ gone.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That'd fuck up a person once you come down from adrenaline.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Turns out how it looks in movies in a fully controlled environment isn't how it looks in real life.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "To be fair Westfield's security here is wayyy better!!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "When you know you know ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Have you actually watched [the video of the shooting](https://files.catbox.moe/ro793j.mp4)? I'm guessing not.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There were some shots, the Secret Service dragged Trump down to the ground and held him there until the All Clear was called. The shooter was down, the agents verified \"Are we clear to go?\" and once they were given the go-ahead, they pulled him to his feet, surrounded him (literally putting their bodies between him and any other shooter) and evacuated him from the scene *in case there was another shooter*.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The longer they hang around in one place, the more chance that a hypothetical second shooter will get a good shot at the target. The important thing is to move away as soon as it is safe to do so, not to hang around for fifteen or twenty minutes while they search the whole area for a hypothetical second shooter.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "\"Safe\" in this context means that any *known* shooters are neutralised, not \"we're 100% sure that nobody else in the crowd is a shooter\".", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It was all over in about 90 seconds. Very fast, very professional (putting aside the question of how the shooter got on the roof in the first place).", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "CC u/auximenies", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As far as \"letting their VIP to be clearly visible\" (as auximenies complains), if it were up to the Secret Service their VIPs would be locked in an underground bomb-shelter 24/7 but that's not going to happen. They have to work with the VIPs they have. They weren't going to carry Trump if he is still capable of walking (too slow, that would make him an easy target) so they have to stand him up so he can walk. And he has to walk down stairs. Ideally the candidate would keep their head down, but that's not Trump's style, and you can see the agents trying to surround him to make the smallest target possible and him resisting. What can they do? Taze him and carry him out?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As appalling a person as he is, the way he managed that moment was pretty impressive", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't think there's any doubt his showmanship is very much who he is.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Add to that the Christian extremists that believe he was sent by God. This only strengthens their narrative too. I wish I was kidding.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Biden would have gone the way of the Dodo", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Biden would have gone the way of the Dodo", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Biden would have gone the way of the Dodo", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah Biden'd look something like what he looked like when Trump was talking during their debate", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s going to be one of those iconic photos lists and probably will win a few awards. The photographer was on point when he captured the moment.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I read on bullshit.com.au that photographers were praised for “bravely” rushing forward to document the event. I think they smelled blood in the water, or money to be made.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That is an election winning photo.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "In and upside down which is usually a signal of distress or danger to a country.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You should despise all politicians, but Trump didn't start any new wars in office, im anti-war, and wherever America goes, we go, so I think that's a good thing.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What do you despise about him? Is it that other people hate him so much maybe?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Man you Americans are something else.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That photo reeks of arrogance, entitlement and stupidity. Acting like you're king dick isn't cool.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not judging, just curious, why do you hate him? Do you hate him or his policies? I didn’t know anyone to hate Trump when he was on The Apprentice.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "‘Murica!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And then we named a swimming pool and a submarine base after them", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Two British MPs have been murdered in the last decade.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Only negative is that the populace is unarmed for an invasion but with correct planning wouldn’t be to hard with such as small population, though they would not have the natural skill of a life long shooter.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Thank goodness", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You seem like the type of person to say the year is 2024 smh I can’t deal with these people man", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well, y'know... about that...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nobody left Obama's debate thinking he was incapable of doing the job of president. The two situations aren't at all comparable.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Obama was also the most charismatic president since Reagan, so he had the tools to dig himself out of that hole. Biden does not.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oh I understand now, thanks for the explanation ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think the difference in voting between the two is: Trump wants to run the whole thing himself and he always knows best which means he won't listen to good council, Biden although mentally checked out let's the government run itself like it should be doing and isn't wanting to be the only one that makes decisions.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That's how I see the choice. It's not just about the president, it's who is underneath them and what they are capable of.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Are you truly so brain dead that you think the president has anything to do with actually making policy decisions?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They aren't really the silent majority though, they just fancy themselves that.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well … technically you are correct.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I live here. Got its pros and cons just like anywhere.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You don’t live in the us.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "News wasn’t given. It was said to trump. The crowd cannot hear the secret service agent talking to trump lol.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Obviously.  There were about 5 on top of him.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Holy shit. That gave me goosebumps.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It was history that you wrote your comment 3 hrs ago. Opps, there it goes again.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Weirdest thing, maybe it's social media. On 9/11 it would have been considered distasteful to even say it. Here we are 20 years later and everyone going on about \"living history\"", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump winning was almost a foregone conclusion anyway.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Even the most committed democrat knows that the other guy is a loss.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There will be a huge amount of dialogue about setup job/ false flag etc.....but if you've got it in the bag, no need to cheat.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Pretty risky to agree to having someone shoot your ear from long distance. A few mm makes significant difference to the outcome...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And since it's absolutely not a false flag he's pretty much guaranteed to win", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Even if it were conclusively proven, half the population would refuse to believe it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't get it?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Could you please explain cause I'm dumb.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "> my child has training drills at his school", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's not nearly the same as it is in the USA. In Australia, we have lockdown drills, but it's intended to mitigate some moron with a weapon like a bat or maybe a knife. Next time you go to parent-teacher interviews, really look at the school. Chances are it's filled with giant fucking windows everywhere.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I've only worked in three schools where you could actually protect kids from a committed attacker. The first was the literal prison school, the second was the hospital school, and the third just happened to be built like a prison.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah - I was being somewhat hyperbolic - but - at the end of the day... the citizens of USA are literally the ONLY ones who CAN do anything about this... and the fact that nothing has happened - at least to us on the outside looking in - for decades, with dozens of incidents and many dozens killed... ... suggests there is not a genuine will amongst the people to fix this situation - or else we would see the outcomes of that will of the people.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Because there’s this bizarre thinking that “good” people with guns can stop the “bad” people with guns. Don’t you remember all the talk about arming school teachers after the Uvalde shooting? Because the maths teacher & school librarian are secretly sharp shooters, apparently.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "First thing I saw on some conservative subs was \"BUY ALL THE AMMO YOU CAN\".", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I read he was a democrat, there must be a lot of different sources.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I mean, I wouldn’t class all Americans as older. But, gee you really showed me that Americans don’t react to gun shots because they are all shooting the tops off their beers.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "interesting, i have some family up there. Maybe I should talk to them lol", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Maybe intelligence has to do with that.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There’s a line between being courageous and being foolish.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well that's a different topic but Republicans especially those that go to rallies aren't the brightest bulbs in the shed and what's the point of showing courage if you aren't gonna accomplish anything other than making yourself into a statistic.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The guy who took the shooter out - at least he did his job", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Impressive? They didn’t do their job to begin with and allowed some 20yr old nutter to climb onto the roof of an adjacent building with a rifle.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Funny how they went to the trouble of posting snipers nearby but missed an armed attacker on one of the few nearby roofs.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Looks like a big lapse.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s without doubt one of the greatest fuck ups in Secret Service history.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Their job is to prevent someone shooting at their principal. If they’re *responding* to a shooter who’s somehow managed to get onto a rooftop 100 meters away from the most divisive presidential candidate in US history I’d say the only thing “impressive” is their capacity for ineptitude.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I mean how could they possibly know if he was working alone or not?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "lol what...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The sniper on the roof heard the shot, flinched, took cover, then started to look for the threat.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It was shockingly bad.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not sure about that. They apparently had sights on shooter before the shooting, but waited until he fired first?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They then rush Trump to the ground. But then when they are told “shooter down”, they are ok with letting him stand up and get his photo opp. With his head clearly exposed again for 5 seconds at least.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How did they know there wasn’t another shooter somewhere? Surely at that point you keep him 100% covered till he’s in a vehicle.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They are supposed to be the best in the world. Some seriously dodgy shit going on. Tin foil hat time.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What exactly was impressive about it?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Your totally missing the point that multiple shooters could have been present. It was a bit of a cluster fuck of an exit tbh.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "(I’m ex military, nothing fancy, just a transport driver, and even with my level of training can easily see how bad this was handled)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Watch it again. They say ‘shooter down’ and then let him pop his head up for ages to mouth ‘fight! Fight!’ to the crowd. Unheard of.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And let all the conspiracy theories begin as this was a perfect aftermath for Trump. Best PR he could have even gotten.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Upside down flag and all", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As a photographer that shot is your magnum opus, not quite sure what you're trying to say.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes it is brave to continue doing your job, and doing it well, in a situation where someone is shooting into a crowd and has just killed someone.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "“They smelled money to be made”? I doubt they would work as photographers or photojournalists because they’re driven by greed. You make it sound like they were looting bodies.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Journalists who keep working in the most dangerous environments to give us news and a glimpse of what’s happening in the world deserve our respect and gratitude.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s not really upside down. It’s just hanging vertically between two cranes.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://preview.redd.it/o2rvtm1ghgcd1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1d29ccccb6d7175cba09a3e99b1f1b41bf557d6", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "🤓", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Probably the rapes", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Looks to me more like an act of defiance against those who want you dead.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Just because you have those feelings about Trump doesn’t mean the photo exhibits them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s a fantastic shot.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "“You Americans”? This is an Australian thread 🤷‍", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I despise Trump, but this photo is undoubtably going down in history possibly the greatest capture of our generation. If you dislike Trump you should be concerned that this incredibly powerful image exists instead of just dismissing it outright.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Almost being assassinated then fist pumping the crowd is pretty damn impressive. Instead of cowering behind secret service agents he was trying to let people know he was ok.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Firstly, you suck. Secondly there is almost unanimous agreement that it's badass which supports my first point.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I agree that the photo looks like the sort of cheesy militaristic crap that you’d normally see in a Jerry Bruckheimer film but the Americans LOVE that shit.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The Orange shitstain just won the election because of this photo.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "We just lose PMs in Australia", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That's kinda wild that despite all the division in the USA and their presidents being killed, the Brits have had more politicians killed.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Though, that's probably because of higher security there.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s pure theatre.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oh no Trump is a fake because he didn't wrestle 5 secret service agents into submission, then jump on the roof and kill the sniper with a pair of bear arms he ripped off a grizzly on the way there.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "We're reaching terminal levels of Trump Derangement Syndrome here.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There is a theory that trump wears lifts.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "A good friend of mine works in what passes for a tough school in suburban Australia, semi outer suburbs with lots of immigrants. Ethnic gangs, regular fights on school property, police entering the grounds every few weeks to months.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Also no metal detectors, no real knife or gun problem, most kids aren't involved in fights. No significant criminal activity at school. The school always tries to expel the offenders and is often successful. The worst thing that ever happens on school property is a student gets bashed in a fight they walk away from, which isn't great but given the numbers of students isn't particularly common.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Also on another point, I've visited schools in remote communities in the NT. It took me a while to notice it but a lot of them have nice classrooms behind a good solid core exterior rated door with a deadbolt. Storm shutters on every window. A common occurrence when an adult in the community is angry or on drugs is to bring a weapon to the school and threaten people.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well sure, but that’s not the point. An attack mitigant is an attack mitigant. Whatever may happen to the design of US schools going forward, there’s still plenty of windows, and history shows they don’t prevent a determined attack either.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Kinda sad they keep buckets of rocks in classrooms in the US.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "In general terms, opinion on gun control reflects Republican / Democrat division. A relatively even split, you might say. From there it gets complicated. Obama capitalised on the trauma after Sandy Hook to pass serious gun control measures. He had serious support behind him, but I couldn’t say in terms of polling.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "In any event, his Presidency followed the fate of many others, in that President’s party does not enjoy control of the House. The House handed his butt to him on a platter.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The event which caused my wife - an", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "American- to resolve never to live in her home country again.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So I agree you are right, but it’s complicated, and so very very sad.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Fun fact: sales of AR15 (ie M16) rifles skyrocketed on the back of the Sandy Hook tragedy.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Democrats are afraid to support 2A rights, and Republicans are afraid not to. And of course, tons of money and votes involved.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Ironically, all these 'good guys' with guns aren't allowed to enter NRA meetings/rallies nor Maga rallies or meetings, armed. They just have to be 'good guys' with their bare hands at those events.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Funny that.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And the lemmings eat it all up.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Gun sales usually soar after a mass shooting because there's fear of greater regulation. As in - quick, go buy all the guns before we can't anymore.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They had good guys with guns- the local cops- who were too scared to go in and confront the attacker.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I mean the maths teacher should be able to trigonimically calculate the best angles for the shots... so yeah... that makes sense.. /s", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He was a registered Republican that donated to Democrats (ActBlue). Democrats register as Republicans so they can try and sway the primaries to pick an alternative candidate.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I wondered about this. There are people who were literally filming the shooter lying on the roof as he fired shots. How on earth did none of the security see a man on the open roof with a gun?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I live in an apartment building and the number of false alarms we've had with our fire alarm (and having to wait outside at 3am in the morning for instance) always concerns me as no one ever takes it seriously because it's always a big nothing. What happens when there's a real fire? It'll take people a while to realise that and then act appropriately.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I imagine it was similar here, how many false reports have the Secret Service probably gotten about threats etc. A random crowd member saying someone is on the roof is probably not going to cause anyone to jump straight into action as it sounds like it all happened pretty quickly.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm not sure if you can fault the Secret Service people actually there on site as they got the job done extremely quickly once a threat was confirmed. If there was a fault, it was before the event as it sounds like the perimeter wasn't truly secure as it needs to account for people with a rifle like this shooter. Someone at head office involved in the planning should be getting the blame here.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Remember the last 10950 days where not one important Federal politician, president, vice-president, presidential candidate etc was shot by an assassin?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nobody remembers those days.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The Secret Service has to be lucky a hundred times a day. The assassin only has to be lucky once.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yep. It's virtually one of the few buildings and a perfect sniper perch...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Drones exist as well and could be surveying all rooftops.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Hard to say if it was deliberate or incompetence.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Pretty much what I thought. A shit ton of heavily armed LE magically appear out of nowhere…wtf were they doing when the guy was climbing the roof and setting up, playing cards?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I also thought the Secret Service secure the roofs of buildings surrounding the venues. Rifles do exist.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There were people who saw the shooter climbing up, with rifle, and told police - WT?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "120 metres - why was the roof not secured???", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Conspiracy theorists will feast on this", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Correct. If you look at an aerial shot of the staging and the buildings where the shooter was, the only conclusion you can draw is that someone didn't do their job properly.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This isn't surprising as Trump picks his own people, lawyers, advisers, spokespersons and even the head of security. All of these have one thing in common; they are at best, second rate.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Indeed was it incompetence or a planned event ? 🤔", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Terrible shooter", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Either way Trump is conveniently a legend now end of story, right?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Super incompetent or compromised.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Biden in shambles lol", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Everything is easy when someone else has to do it, eh!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Irrelevant, even if he was part of a team, taking him down would have stilled reduced the effectiveness of their plan and reduce the chance of an assassination.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The first time I saw the angle of the sniper that’s all I could think about, wth is he ducking. Luckily he composed himself and got the shot off", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That’s not what happened, he is responsible for target substantially further out then 100m, he doesn’t flinch he pulls his weapon back on the bipod so that he can aim lower, he pulls back from the scope so that he can actually see where the target is and reposition his scope.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The sniper would have been looking at things beyond 300 metres, this shooter was not within the snipers area of responsibility.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He did an awesome job, the “flinch” you are talking about is him dragging the bipod so that he can aim lower (otherwise he would have had to stand up) and him looking up from the scope is because he is probably variably zoomed too far that acquiring the target in the scope takes to long so he had to quickly look so he can pivot.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The sniper did not hide.. he returned fire in under 3 seconds. There is a reason the guy only got off 5 or 6 shots, it’s because he had to head after that.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Killing him within seconds?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yep, he is meant to be President. The world needs to let go of the USA as a world leader. Those times are gone, and the citizens of the US are hungry for a Putin style megalomaniac to do a fascism lite style of government. Leave them to it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It isn’t upside down", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You’re telling me there’s zero chance any of them were motivated by the desire to get *the* shot of Trump potentially dead or dying? That they were purely motivated by the need to bring us the news, and thought nothing of personal gain? You’re a more optimistic soul than me. You might want to google Kevin Carter.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes, but it's upside down for the shot", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The child sexual abuse, the meddling with election officials , the fake electors, the insurrection, his love of dictators, his failed multiple businesses, his grifting, his racism, his sexism , his lusting after his own daughter, his connections to Epstein, burying his ex wife on a golf course for tax purposes and then letting her grave become covered in weeds and brush. Need more?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And the pussy grabbing", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah and if it's actually my fellow Aussies sucking his orange mushroom that would be even worse.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Aussies don't hero worship yank fascist wannabes", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[removed]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Exactly. I'm not denying that THEYLL think it's cool.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm just saying it's not. You can check my history I said a few hours ago that he's gonna landslide after this. I know he's won now.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And so I'm just gonna blow coke and jump on the bed until the inevitable blast wave.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I will admit I didn't realise this was the Australian sub when I first saw the comments here though", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And then name swimming pools after them...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Thank you my good man!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "> An attack mitigant is an attack mitigant.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "A defence against A doesn't imply it will also defend against B.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Classrooms in the USA are designed to have a designated safety area that is invisible from the hallway. Other than the schools I mentioned above, I have never worked in an environment that offers students any location where they can't be seen from multiple angles.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Classroom doors in the USA are designed to limit fields of view. Their doors are resistant to attacks and generally come with barricade devices. Our doors are basically indoor-rated doors with a big single-pane window so people can see the whole room.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And the kitty litter thing is to clean up pee and poo but is also very handy for cleaning up blood.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's not really surprising that sales skyrocket after an event that could lead to legislative change. Any bans would likely grandfather in existing weapons as okay to own and be sellable/transferable.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Like the 1986 ban on automatic weapons which essentially prohibits the sale or transfer of automatic weapons built post 1986. Pre 1986 guns could be kept and still sold today, they are worth a fortune now.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nor Walmart, where they go to buy up their AR15 ammo at the hottest price in town! Make no mistake, your open-carry rights end at the front door to the mall.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "We did the same thing during COVID when the population thought there was going to be a shortage of toilet paper. Everyone went out and bought more than they needed and, guess what, there was a shortage of toilet paper.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Give the history teacher a musket", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They interviewed someone who tried to point the shooter out to police. He said they couldn’t see him due to the angle of the roof. He also said there were so few high building why wasn’t the secret service on that building. The police didn’t understand what he was trying to tell them. Maybe due to crowd noise.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How the hell do Ukrainian soldiers have unlimited supply of kamikaze drones but the Secret Service can’t afford one?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yet, in the confusion of an active shooting, located and killed the shooter within a couple of seconds...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The security and police were told minutes earlier and they did hardly anything. Doesn't add up", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Good question, but knowing how these services work together, they might have thought it was a member of another team. Y'know, some sweet sweet old incompetence.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "got a link?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Apparently one of the snipers said top secret service denied them the ability to take the shot for 3 minutes. So once he fired they fired back", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Where the video at?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "MAGA security....making America great again....somewhat....oh whatever.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Deep state job", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah but don’t the Secret Service plan ahead?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Maybe it’s better for people to be a bit slower in evacuating than for them to panic?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think I used to live in the same apartment building.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I lived in a 12-story building in Sydney for uni. One night at 2am the fire alarms went off and I ran for the stairs in my pyjamas (10th floor.) Got downstairs and there were maybe a handful of us? The fire continued, firetrucks appeared, and an hour later people were still coming down the stairs but fully dressed and with all their stuff. One of the last people out brought down a freaking camp chair! There was an actual fire and smoke was pouring out, freaking lucky there were sprinklers in the ceiling and the firies were there quickly.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes I too am a fan of Ryan Reynolds movies.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Important? You don’t care about Gabby Giffords?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nah", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "When's the last time they shot someone trying to get to a rooftop with a rifle?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "When's the last time they shot someone on a rooftop with a rifle before the gunman could fire?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It sure looks like they've been playing security theatre for a while and when it came to the real test they were found wanting.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If you have ONE job and you manage to fuck it up I don’t see how you’re deserving of praise.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You sound like you know what you're on about, but I'm reading a lot of ex military snipers saying this was a shit show and that the Hawkeye and the secret service shit the bed not having that warehouse roof covered.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "A few cms to the right and Trump would've been pink mist.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It wasn’t seconds. But yeah that’s kinda their job", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You're delusional. We've already Trump in office once, and you can't name a single thing he did that was \"fascism lite\". Heck, we even had a major crisis (the pandemic) and instead of grabbing extra power for the federal government, he explicitly said that state and local governments should write the best rules for their own unique situations.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He didn't use the DOJ to prosecute his political opponents (though he easily could have, Hilary admitted to both mishandling classified documents and destroying evidence), in sharp contrast to Biden's witchhunts. He didn't shut down protests or even try to imprison violent protestors, in even sharper contrast to the Biden admin. He didn't flagrantly ignore the court system and boast about it, like Biden has done countless times.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The authoritarians in this country are democrats. No one can name a single thing that Trump did that was \"fascist\" but it's easy to come up with a huge list of authoritarian insanity that the Biden administration has pulled off.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Wut?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[No, that's how you have a vertical US flag](https://nationalflagfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/podium.jpeg)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "We’re remarking on the amazing optics and the likely impacts on the electoral race, because US elections are high entertainment when you’re detached from them (which it sounds like ur not)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "People in this thread are talking about the qualities of the photo, not the person in it", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Those people suck too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The post I responded to was talking about a certain mind set - where children need to drill to prepare for an attack on their school. My point is no more than that we have our children starting those drills too, and these programs are engendered by similar fears. On this level, it’s not about the weapon of choice, nor the sophistication of defensive architecture, nor the degree of risk (each of which are vastly greater in the US).", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Terrible", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Amazing comment lol", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I have made a similar comment many times when people carry on about the 2nd amendment & the right to bear arms. If they want to stick to the letter of the 2nd amendment then they should be armed with weapons from the era it was written.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There should have been an agent on that roof for sure, old mate would have climbed up that ladder and been immediately identified as a threat and deleted.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "At the very least, eyes on that elevated position.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nah that’s piss weak. If secret service is there, they should have had drone surveillance", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There’s a water tower that you’d assume would be the highest point in the area by quite a margin, you’d think they’d chuck at least one bloke up there with a pair of binoculars. Or use drones, as some commentators have mentioned.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The news says now that a police officer went up on the roof, but had to back down as the shooter turned the rifle on him. If anything, he likely rushed the shot afterwards and contributed to the miss.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah because these people who claimed they tried to warn SS and Police just stood there. They didn’t actually go up to anyone. I mean walk the 10 yards to let them know what’s happening. Another guy said “the SS was looking right at me with binoculars “! Really? Have you ever looked through binoculars ? You’re zoomed in one something you can’t see everything in front of you. You can only see what you’re zoomed in on.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think you're referring to this interviewee - Trumper complete with orange hair;", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "\"Trump Rally Shooting Witness SPEAKS OUT in VIRAL Interview\";", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://youtu.be/cG0qPDCWE9w", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump’s SS: only the best (?) but underfunded?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Ideally there are no drones in the air in an area like this with some ECM deployed, cause drones fly both ways.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "> How the hell do Ukrainian soldiers have unlimited supply of kamikaze drones", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They don't.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Cryptocurrency donations? I hope so, because I would have funded a couple. And one for each of my kids too. They were keen as to fund a killer drone.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The shooter was on an open rooftop 100 meters away and managed to take shots at a presidential candidate.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Let’s not be too free with the dick sucking. It was a monumental fuck up.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "they had him lined up and were WAITING for him to shoot.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think it was malicious incompetence rather than actual incompetence.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://x.com/kkmediatingz/status/1812334959866347578?s=46&t=kfohDmtzNKZ7Kav3b-NEYA", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That's my point, I believe it was the fault of senior Secret Service who planned security for the event.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The biggest issue was that building not being part of the perimeter and that sounds like a pre-event mistake.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What, even Green Lantern? You maniac you ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I like the Deadpool movies but honestly I don't see the connection.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oh! No I totally forgot about her. Mea culpa.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "But I see [no indication that she had Secret Service protection at the time of the shooting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting).", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well, that's only because you don't know what you're talking about.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Entertainment?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Youre entertained by the idea of a christo-fascist theocratic state with 6000+ nukes?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Entertaining isn't the word in my damn mind.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Uwu, scathing", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "A police officer actually did which led to him shooting when he does - the crazy thing is the police officer failed to do anything", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeh I would think they should have had drone over watch for sure.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "A drone only has so much FOV and detail.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If there were 2ppl (friendlies) on that roof, they would have discovered the alleged shooter.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I agree with you but one thing to consider is I’m pretty sure they use anti drone technology to prevent an attack via drones. That same technology might prevent them having drones so close to the target.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Security works in rings, so the guys that jumped on trump and the tactical team are primarily responsible for things 0-100 metres and then you have further teams 100-300 metres and then the snipers etc etc.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s actually the reason the sniper appears to like drag his bipod and pull off his scope, the guy was way closer than sniper range so literally not in this guys area of control, as soon as he realised he pulls off the scope to get context and visualise the target and then drags his weapon backwards so that he can get it low enough to hit someone so close.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s actually rather impressive from the sniper team to be honest, it appears the middle ground team has failed miserably here.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Didn't want drones so they could lie about how big the crowd was?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They could have used one to scout the location days prior to the event itself.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "COTS drones expended in Ukraine run between five hundred and a thousand per day. The vast majority of them are downed by EW or run out of battery.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "No, they don't have \"unlimited\" supply; there is not an \"unlimited\" supply of grains of sand, either. But the number of drones used in Ukraine might as well be unlimited by comparison to the number it would take to secure a presidential campaign rally, which is the point being made by the person you replied to.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I find it incredibly odd that they can fuck up this bad and miss something so obvious as shooter on a rooftop within close range, yet still locate him within one or two seconds amidst the confusion.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How that equates dick sucking I'm really not sure, but feel free to give yourself a reach-around while you're at it, just don't call it a threesome.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This deserves far more likes ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why not send someone up there when they saw him?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm sure they did. But why wait?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "No, it's actual incompetence. I wouldn't want to be the guys who missed this, their careers are effectively over.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You think an agency that takes its protection detail from the SEALs, Delta force and other Special Forces operators would be complicit in the death or attempted assassination of a former U.S President?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah, but that’s my point. Secret Service failed.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oh I thought you were quoting the hitman's bodyguard haha", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why would that worry me, what bad things did he do with the nukes last time he was president? These “end of the world” scare tactics were run the first time around.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If you’re genuinely worried about who’s in control of the nukes…then surely you would also be equally dismayed by the current president in control of the nukes, who literally cannot string a sentence together some days, and often doesn’t appear to know what day it is….", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There’s something really off about this. I’m thinking it’s a publicity stunt. Who waves and fist pumps after they’ve been shot? That’s. It a normal reaction.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He must’ve known he wasn’t going to get actually shot", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "But they also usually have sniffer dogs?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They could have done that on foot, it's fucking 100 meters away and in plain sight. Then post a guy to stand by the ladder or something.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well said. It’s all super fucking weird & I really don’t get it, but I know fuck all about the way that shit works so I’m willing to wait until all the details come out before forming an opinion.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nfi how you are dick sucking by pointing that out, but imma suck your dick for a second and say: great come back.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "great question and yet the one everyone is thinking and no one has a decent answer to.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "which is curious to say the least", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Because they wanted to be sure it wasn't one of their guys, or a supporting security service I presume.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Because this isn't \"Minority Report\"?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "yes.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Didn’t need to be the whole crew, just one actively working to free up the lane", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Absolutely", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes. Malicious incompetence doesn't require compliance or involvement. That's why I disagree with the inside job theory. It can just as easily come from allocating insufficient staff to properly secure the location. It doesn't have to come from the people that are supposed to be doing the protection detail.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "P2025. If you genuinely haven't heard of it go look it up and if you're gonna try and downplay the literal outline for a fascist takeover - don't bother.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[removed]", + "extra_info": "" + } +] \ No newline at end of file