/acg/ - Armored Core General

FAST Pack Edition
>New Player Guide
https://pastebin.com/5xEAybEC
>Artbooks, music and emulation resources
https://pastebin.com/jxij0dxe
>the link for the ACV xenia tutorial
https://pastes.io/s7kp1uu925
>ACVD-friendly xenia link
https://dropmefiles.com/PS3lr
>pre setup emulator and dlc pack for ACVD rpcs3
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iz<wbr>fMwvXnqpKE53hplyEH_xHHM4BuuN0V/view<wbr>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CI<wbr>gmk7L_mIen9aQHwEqP1_8DMyQUSmPU/view<wbr>
>models for all the gen 1 parts
https://mega.nz/folder/ZzF2zTgC#9GA<wbr>7XuSi3K3utTbp4hBlkA
>Website
https://www.armoredcore.net/
>Steam Page
https://store.steampowered.com/app/<wbr>1888160/ARMORED_CORE_VI_FIRES_OF_RU<wbr>BICON/
>Emblem editor decals
https://files.catbox.moe/lwp114.png<wbr>
>AC6 Part Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet<wbr>s/d/1YLPD_x-NSLkOPQJUR-WHoHipE4UI01<wbr>Nz

Other News:
>3D Modeling in AC6
https://cgworld.jp/article/202402-c<wbr>gw305-ac6.html
https://cgworld.jp/article/202402-c<wbr>gw305-ac6b.html
>AC6 Model Kits and Shit
https://twitter.com/30mmissions/sta<wbr>tus/1770616341017563449
https://twitter.com/Kotobukiya_EN/s<wbr>tatus/1788006401102762462
https://twitter.com/SQEX_MD_GOODS/s<wbr>tatus/1788034531855065182
>Next Update Scheduled for May 17th (update if it turns out it has cool shit)

●Set matching to global for lobbies and use keyword acg to play with each other!

Previous Thread: >>22613182

>>22627773
The coral KNEELS to Mad Stomp

Do any of the PS2 games have an online scene at all?

My motorcobras are just getting warmed up!

>>22627793
i believe there's a way to do PvP matches through the gen 3 PSP ports

I AM ARQUEBUS
I AM ARQUEBUS
I AM ARQUEBUS

>>22627906
it's a shame that they couldn't have made this AC-compatible equipment and have snail's AC sitting there

>>22627913
It's a shame BALTEUS's parts aren't available as AC parts

>>22627913
>kill snailbalt
>OPEN FAITH pops out of it as a phase 3
Kino

>>22627913
It's fucking CRIMINAL that nothing made by PCA is compatible with ACs.
Fuckers made all the coolest shit and we can have none of it.

>>22627996
RaD should have had some PCA parts from scavenging and recycling their stuff, reverse-engineering it. Same with Arquebus— you mean they can make new weapons for BALTEUS (with the Arquebus logo on it, even) but can't do the inverse?

>>22627813
The thumbnail just looks like Dr. Eggman

>>22628023
>>22627996
PCA mechs aren't even proportional with ACs.

i got a 3-styled howitzer/rifle build to sorta work but i'm worried about how much of a stagger slave it is

>>22628226
On an unrelated note, I hope FCS overloads become a thing in the next AC. I've had enough of this "Fire ALL the weapons!!1!" bs. Let there be consequences for unrestrained firepower in the form of total FCS shutdown.

>>22628226
any reason why this guy didnt just AB into your face and instantly finish you off?

>>22628023
The loader head does have a camera arrangement resembling that of the LCs.

>>22628452
Nta but probably got too lax thinking his opponent is already finished.

>>22628023
>>22628456
Its arms also look like the Ekdromoi’s, so that’s that as well.
In the case of non-RaD ACs, Elcano’s Firmeza core resembles the chassis of the Denoiser MTs of the PCA.

>>22628452
that's the difference between A-rank play and S-rank play i guess
he does use AB pretty liberally outside of that clip so maybe he was just out of juice at that point

>>22628226
>stagger slave
game is built around stagger wtf do you mean?
quad laser dps and ratting are the only two playstyles that dont need stagger

>>22628179
The proportions aren't standardized at all, you have core designs ranging from microscopic hunchbacks to hueg what-the-fucks, same with biped legs and even arms that change different weapon-swap-port heights, with Wrecker arms being notably outlandish

>>22628680
the WRECKER arms really need a buff one of these days
they're heavy and the high recoil control stat on them is a meme when they're shit at tracking

post predictions for the 17th<br>my money's on a BAWS/ELCANO/RaD reverse joint frame

>>22628966
it's just gonna be balance and ladder reset

>>22628979
Other than nerfing lamm, what else?
Buff parry shields I guess.

>>22628996
another RAN-AR buff, but it's something that completely misses the point like ammo count or weight

I retroactively appreciate verdict day for making the final boss a normal AC vs a NEXT.<br>That's chuuni as fuck

>>22628639
the stagger-dealing weapons are kinda hard to hit lightweight ACs with. i was dealing with an ALBA build which tends to be on the more reasonable side but if it was an ultralight i probably wouldn't be able to get any hits in

>>22627996
flares as an expansion option would be neat

>>22629100
Yeah the Gen5 ACs are way tankier than Normals. The AP they have is comperable with that of NEXTS (going purely by AP numbers), and are much more mobile.

I wanna pilot this thing. Maybe slap a laser blade on it in place of a shield.

>>22628966
Would be quite cool to get new parts

>>22629291
you mean back boosters? there's no shoulder units in this game.

>>22629100
>>22629059
It wasn't even a normal NEXT

>space station mission
>these things
They knew what they were doing.

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>>22629379
just go on the strider mission with an ORBITER core build it's close enough

I think Raven should've had more unique parts.<br>idk what was gained by making him essentially just Loader 4 with a unique head

>>22629450
The reminder that it’s the pilot, not the parts that make the difference.

>>22629456
yeah but at that point in the game a battle against a single AC will challenge no one.
You'd get stuck on Sulla otherwise

>>22629456
Still, unique parts make the character more distinct. Case in point, White Glint in AC4A compared to AC4.

>>22629515
WG was TOO distinct for my taste. None of the parts mixed well with anything else and you couldn't use the core at all without just looking like a WG recolor.

>>22629450
nah the you versus "you but with a sick fucking visor" fight is fuckin kino

literal "he thinks he's him" fight, fuckin chuuni shit like that dingles my dopamine

>>22629535
I do appreciate how no npcs use the finder eye. That's your head, and it intentionally looks like a dog's nose.

>>22629532
I thought WG's part meshed well with the Algebra parts. I do understand what you mean though; it's a similar problem in AC6 with the parts not matching together much.

Which is the best game in the series and why is it Silent Line?

>>22629603
AC3 and Silent Line were my favorite old gen games aside from Gen 1. It had an amazing atmosphere and soundtrack, and the gameplay felt like a direct improvement from gen2's overall. I wish we stayed with that style instead of what we got in gen4 onwards

Why does ACV/VD look so much uglier than 4th gen? The animations look worse overall.

>>22629631
The weapon switching animations alone mog everything 4/FA had. The little roll and explosion is also the best defeat animation in the series.

>>22629631
Why does ACV/VD look so much uglier than 4th gen?
It's supposed to.

>>22627996
>Balam route DLC with missions that involve capturing PCA tech for reverse engineering instead of destroying it for the RLF, which unlocks new parts and weapons appropriately
Too cool to actually happen, most likely.

>>22627996
We should at least be able to use the handheld weapons. They're not too big for us to use.

A challenge run where you're basically playing a gen1 AC. No quickboosting, no assault boosting, no quick-turning.

>>22629748
Oh, and no weapon bays or core expansions.

>>22629791
long-barreled curtis is kinda funky and neat, maybe it was originally a sniper rifle?

>>22629791
>shield is its own meter
>pulse blade had a gold effect that matched the Takigawa Harmonics logo color
I do wonder if the core expansion use work differently or if that debug room just has it opening and closing on interval. Also that old reticule is nice, the current one's overheat/charge bars are too easy to lose if you're playing a build that has lots of lingering aoe like plasma. I wish we could get some FA color customization on the UI without modding.

>>22629748
Easy, just make a tank with cannons, heavy lasers and maybe shield.

>>22629748
No combos or scan or hardlock, either

>>22629535
Yup I made sure to replay that mission with Loader 4 as soon as I completed it on first blind playthrough

>>22629631
Bevause the technology canonically went to shit
I think 5 gen ACs are cool though, yes even the APC-door-carrying cores

whoever said pulse-armoring the backup dancers for coral release was a fucking nigger it doesn't instakill any of them

>>22629952
Did you try that using a coral generator?

>>22629791
looks like a shoulder extension on the right arm

>>22629631
It was supposed to be more primitive and "down to earth" in feel so FROM made it look like some generic brown cover shooter.

>>22629631
The real answer is that they had to significantly lower texture resolutions because the game could barely run on current hardware. They concealed this with an omnipresent blur filter.
Most of the game's creative choices were made to conceal how bad the graphics were.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P-<wbr>VQ42SzOI
>mogs Hoshino in your path

>>22629603
Because it had tons of parts to discover, relatively good balance, good missions design and tastefully difficult. It was an overall good game really.

How do you use AC1 save for Project Phantasm on duckstation? It just offers me to start fresh new game.

>>22630396
Nvm, I figured it out. Smart as Iguazu.

Imagine if instead swapping hand weapons you could choose to swap shoulder weapons at the expense of hand slots

everyone point and laugh at the fool (me, I'm the fool in this story) who bought a Singaporean copy of ACV, forgetting that the Xbox 360 is, in fact, region locked

I just wanted the cheevs ;_;

>sigh< I'm not really willing to mod my console so I guess I'll buy an NTSC-J console from Japan or something

>>22630493
Resell it but don't say why you're reselling it or people will want to bargain with you

>>22629791
That's fuckin cool, how are the chinks accessing this

>>22630026
I hope they bring that stuff back in the DLC/sequel-expansion

>>22629791
>dagger had impale attack
BRING IT BACK!!!!!

>>22630493
Is it not avaliable on Xbox store, or did they close it already?

>>22628966

Its gotta be Dafeng, they only have one set in the game, the Tian Qiang. Schneider now has three sets including an incomplete Kassuar.

Arquebus' subsidiary gets more parts, now its time for Balam's subsidiary.

>>22630513
>>22630545
you see I specifically wanted it for the separate achievement list

for some reason ACV has four separate achievement lists: NA, EU, JP, and SEA. I got the cheevs for the north american version already and bought the SEA version without really giving it much thought. I completely forgot region locks on the 360 were even a thing since actual backwards compatible games on the Series X dont have region lock

my eventual goal is to reach top 20 on the fromsoft leaderboard on trueachievements

>>22630556
wait hang on does this mean I also need another shitbox 360 from the PAL region aw man maybe I will just mod my console

I like mecha games and tried AC6 and loved it. Trying last raven now but I'm getting fucked over by the first mission's boss fight. His AC moves around way too fast for me to keep a lock, and I can't really build because it's the first mission.<br>What do?

>>22630545
AC4, 4A, and ACV aren't available on the online store, and haven't been for years. Only VD is available to buy online

>>22630559
How's your bunny hop skills? That takes a lot of pain out of oldgen fights.

Will they get Karl Urban to voice NIGHTFALL in the prequel DLC?

>>22630559
Try a different mission. You’re not gonna beat that guy right outta the gate.

>>22630584
Everything besides the CE head,nuts a gud look
Especially Nowaki MDL2, my old, beloved load-limit coffin

What AC game would you recommend if you only played 6?

>>22630832
I'd say 4 and verdict day. 4A's too fast and V's too slow.

>>22630832
3
easy oldgen game to start with.

>>22630559
>try LR first meme
>bash head against wall of highest payout mission first meme
PREPARE TO DIE
you where dat optional part of favor and protection at my nigguh?
Just play the games in release order jesus christ

>>22628966
What's happening on the 17th?

>>22630832
Production order because even 1st gen is agelessly sharp

>>22630559
Start 3 gen with AC3 and understand the essence of overboost tap bunny hops spliced and non-tracking fulcrums

Okay so if we put the games in a timeline
AC4/FA came first
V/VD
AC1/PP/MoA
AC2/AA

Would the era of the Martian colonization and disorder units have been between VD and AC1?

>play armored core via link
>waste too much ammo
>now in debt
>experience the human plus program irl
thanks elon...

>>22631140
i think the theory goes that it would've been post-FA with the martian units being derived from NEXT-tech

>>22631140
>AC4/4A
Gen4 and gen5 are in a seperate timeline from gen1 and gen2. Gen 3 is in its own timeline as well.
It also doesn't make any sense for 4/A and V/D to have quickboosting while gen 1/2 don't.

Does anyone else feel like single trigger builds are weak as shit?

>>22631246
I agree that it's meant to be separate timelines. But if I were to write a retarded fanfiction on how it's all connected - in first Armored Core they keep referencing Great Destruction that was caused by that big space laser thing that Murakumo tried to use again, which forced mankind to live underground. Stuff like Human PLUS and space laser are all pre-Great Destruction things, so humanity was more technologically advanced back then.
So it would be something like this: Great Destruction from AC1 was caused by VD Tower wars. Mankind couldn't win with conventional means so they built a giant space laser to nuke Towers from orbit, but it also fucked what's left of the environment completely in the process, forcing humanity underground, thus starting Gen 1 timeline. Any technological disparities are Gen 4 tech being lost/rediscovered from Towers, then lost/rediscovered again by Gen 1 corpos (or Nine Ball, I guess). But that's just my retarded fanfiction.

>>22631428
depends on the weapon i guess
RAN-RF/HARRIS + a bazooka works well if you wanna bring more stopping power to your kite build
bazooka/ZIMMERMAN + melee is viable for rushdown heavies
single trigger MGs/ARs are ass outside of maybe the ETSUJIN but single trigger MGs have kinda been terrible since Nexus anyways

>>22629392
I don't get it

Also you can leave space missions by boosting into the open space
Almost makes me think only 1st and 6th gen ACs are compatible with open space

>>22631140
Last Raven's final bosses were NEXT-tier so
full timeline schizoing list is like

AC3/SL/N/NB/Last Raven
FF
AC4/FA
V/VD
AC1/PP/MoA
AC2/AA
AC6

>>22631602
>I don't get it
Look at the MTs.

>>22631615
Buddy, star wars didn't invent bipedal walkers.

>>22631708
Next thing you're gonna say that Star Wars didn't invent lasers or spaceships either, stop talking crazy.

>>22627751
the next game better have more MT types to fight

>>22631776
>There will be no game updates or regulation patches for the Ranked Match Season Update.

>>22630559
Play through Nexus first and then import your savefile to Last Raven. Or just start the series from the beginning, by the time you make it back to Last Raven, you should be fine in terms of skill (or should I say muscle memory?). By the way, save file importing goes like this:
>1 -> PP -> MoA
>2 -> AA
>3 -> SL
>NX -> LR
>4 -> 4A
>V -> VD
Have fun, I guess.

got bored a few months ago havent even finished the story quite yet, something about it just doesnt hold my interest as long as previous entries, pvp was fun but got old sooner than expected.. anything new in ac6 thatll reel me back in?

>snow area
>THIS thing
AAAAA I AM GOING INSAAAAANE

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Is first strike hard mode bugged on PS3/RPCS3? I can't seem to get the S rank no matter how flawlessly I run it. Maybe it's just a dumb time constraint or something but I don't recall ever having a problem with it on my old 360.

>>22632050
it's just a big bitch anon slam its ass with rockets or whatever

>>22632017
>>22631615
Kawamori and Miyatake even lamented toymakers rejected their proposals for a chicken walker series before Star Wars had them.

Besides obvious parts like the Karasawa and Moonlight blade(s), are there any other parts that every AC game has across all titles?

Like, is there an entire build in AC1 that can, even by technicality, be "ported" all the way through each game?

To be clear I've only completed AC1, ACVD, and AC6, so I'm not super familiar with the overall series hence my query

>>22632195
sorta, i'd be hard pressed to find a build that spans across every title
the closest i can think of is an oldgen build using the 1000 round machine gun, idk if that gun made it into 4th+ gen

>>22632195
For me I'll do
>Sniper rifle
>Laser blade
>Bazooka on back
>Light/Middleweight fast build with good generator
Only one I can't do this in is gen5, but even then you kinda can with the single shoulder slot.

>>22631672
Granted, but they’re in the Bluepoint remakes, where they’re greebled and deformed beyond recognition.

>>22632282
Fuck off to shill your video somewhere else, faggot.

>>22632282
>2 hours and 45 min video crying about "AC6 bad"
>15 min in
>Ranting about hardlock and how it "automates movement and kills need for skill" and how AC6 "has no competitive integrity"
Boohoo nigga

>>22632195
RADAR head made it into every gen, not sure if it's necessarily in every game
VE-44B is also a kind of weird incarnation of it

why does pulseshit even exist<br>like wtf just let people shoot beams with their energy machineguns not donuts or bubbles

Why is building your AC way more fun than it has any right to be?

>>22632195
The EYE series of heads I think. I don't know about ACV but AC6 brought it back with MELANDER.

i think they skipped out on back boosters because as a part they don't really contribute a whole lot to DPS

>>22632766
Bit of a waste. It'd be cool to have them for more speed.

New challenge, anons.<br>Interrupt the Ayre plane with charged Pile Bunker.

Honestly, ff is a fun game if you are an optimization-obsessed autist (like me)

https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/armore<wbr>d-core/news/armored-core-vi-fires-o<wbr>f-rubicon-ranked-match-season-updat<wbr>e-notice-may-2024
>There will be no game updates or regulation patches for the Ranked Match Season Update.

>>22632846
>Only a rank reset
BOOOOOO I WANT NEW PARTS

>>22632846
ac6 will be remembered as the game where people run away from each other for 2 minutes on a quad...

>>22632846
AC6 is my first AC game, and I love it more than everything else From has put out. I have thousands upon thousands of hours across the Souls series, easily a thousand in bloodborne, and a couple hundred in Sekiro. I have a thousand plus in Elden Ring. I don't want Shadow of The Erdtree, I don't want Bloodborne 2, I want more Armored Fucking Core. Cancel that gay ass DLC, make the next AC game. I'm absolutely addicted to everything in AC6. I've always loved mecha, but AC has been the first series that doesn't have glaring issues that eclipse the little good. Like, every Gundam series is dogshit for one reason or another. If it isn't bad writing, it's dog shit animation, both, horrible pacing, you name it. Western mecha is lame, the mechs in other franchises are too zippy or too big and don't feel right, but AC6 got exactly what I was looking for.

>>22632766
Boosters would just help zimnigs rush you faster and kickspam you to death.

>>22632846
>promise a proper update in 3 fucking months
>3 months pass
>"loljk"
holy fuck

>>22632846
Maybe if people get noisy they'll build a patch. The worst meta trends are annoying and so many parts are still bad.

Coral Generators are fucking rad.
Big blood red fire and whatnot.
But it takes some getting used-to to deplete it constantly to make proper use of it

>>22632978
>promise a proper update in 3 fucking months
they never did this

>>22632998
Should I be using the smaller one over the bigger one... ever? It seems like the only advantage is that I have higher thrust because of lower weight.

Does AC2 still have the non-energy ammo cost problem like Gen 1?

>>22633004
the big one unless he's too heavy for your build.

>>22633014
i believe it was a thing through all three of the first gens

>>22633055
Including Silent Lane, Nexus and LR?

>>22633002
When they announced the server maintenance for the first ranked reset back in february they explicitly clarified "this is not an update" and "the next update is scheduled for may 17th"

>>22633081
They reset the ladder and said next update will be on the 17th, exactly as they do in this current blog post. They just mean the ladder reset with that. They never actually said it was gonna be content or anything, people just assumed.

>>22632867
sounds fake and gay, how have you 'always loved mecha' yet never fucking once touched any past armored core game, then complain about gundam, which i now believe you've never watched, AU series don't count.

>>22633086
People rightly understood an update to mean an update, not a ranked ladder reset, which they explicitly said is not an update.
You're twisting words to cope with reality. They renegged on promised support, clearly because funding got pulled.

>>22633088
I didn't know they existed. Grew up poor as hell. Didn't have real internet access until 2012, and even then all I knew about was youtube and Y8 games. I had a ps2 growing up, but we could never afford memory cards. Played some Sly Cooper, played a lot of GTA San Andreas, Zone of the Ender too. My love of mecha came from Big O and Z.O.E. First time I ever heard of AC was when 6 was announced, then I looked back at all the other games and they looked like ass, plus they were on systems I no longer had. I've been on PS4 for the last I don't even know how many years.

And I've only recently tried various Gundam shows. I thought IBO was alright, tried to watch the original and it's just too dated for me, I gave Gundam 00 a great shake, but I dropped off when the chick from the new set of pilots just randomly decided to blow up a wedding, tried to watch Gundam Seed I think and the MC turned me off acting like his whole life was suddenly about protecting a girl he just met.

Before Gundam though, I gave Macross a shake but, once again, just too old for me.

>>22633091
>They renegged on promised support, clearly because funding got pulled
Now that is straight up delusional kek

I cant tell which is the most autistic mechanic between
>Tuning
>Stabilizers
>Heat

>>22633104
>tuning
number go up, good, unga bunga. must decide which numbers are more important, grunga.
>stabilizers
mostly aesthetics
>heat
put on these specific radiators or you're fucked

>>22632059
Is your AC on minimal possible AP? There's a huge money bonus per non-damaged AP unit on very low AP builds, I S-ranked nearly every mission like that with shoulder grenades slapped on

>>22632195
Feels like you can make ANFANG in every game but it's a dubious claim for 4 gen and 5 gen

>>22633104
Tuning is fun, adds a lot of build variety by letting you fix the weakest parts of your AC, such as energy managment or load limits or mobility.

>>22632766
Would be cool if back boosters increased any melee damage to compensate for that

>>22632843
Oh yes it is, it's also very compatible with emulation on a phone without having to have a gamepad around

>>22633104
They're all cool, except heat, heat is hot

>copes and seethes about you
>constantly repeats how you're a nuisance
>attacks you multiple times but loses every fight
>merges with superweapon to challenge you one last time
>still loses
It all makes sense now, Iguazu is one big reference to this guy.

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>>22633170
It's a dumb feature because it makes non-energy weapons a pointless expense without worthwile benefit to compensate for it. Kinda dumb when you have no reason to use like 80% of all weapons types game, except for some rare occasions like a couple boss fights.

>>22633155
just make a BASHO core build
>>22633165
melee damage plus melee attack thrust maybe? i guess the added weight contributes to kick damage, too.

>>22633180
Stinger is the best human character in all of Armored Core. no amount of philosophical babble will top the pure distilled manifestation of seethe that he is

>>22633104
Heat was nice as a mean to keep heavy ACs in check, which is something AC6 definately needs.

>>22633073
Yes, but Nexus and LR fixed this issue by having missions pay much more so Ammo cost wasnt much of a problem.

>>22633240
That's good. Looking forward to playing them then.

>>22633186
In the early games the drawback was supposed to be energy weapons having less ammo and a smaller lock box so you had to aim carefully. Obviously the smart players grabbed the Karasawa and got good quick.

>Beaten 6, 4 and 4a, and psx games
do i just follow on to AC2 or should i skip it and go straight to AC3?

>>22633429
You don't even need Karasawa, pulse rifle that's in shop from the start can carry you early game, then you get enough money to buy laser arms and back plasma gun and that's enough ammo to clear pretty much any mission.

>>22633471
Overseers and Redguns kneel to Snailteuschads

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>>22633638
Sure, AC2 and AA are next on my list.

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I need a name, buddies. Anyone have ideas?

>>22633095
tragic backstory and even worse is being put off by dated graphics and animation, but i'm partly guilty for that too, just get into it and you get over it, and if you don't well then you don't i guess.

Imagine the following scenario:
You're peacefully chilling with your AI gf when pic related shows up, slaps you on the ass and tells you to go eat your coffee-flavored goyslop.
How do you respond?

idk if i like this game<br>why is it so slow....

>>22634917
>container missile
he might as well just kill himself

>>22634917
>5th to last unique mission in the entire 3 campaign game
>it's a battle against an ordinary AC piloted by a ray of sunshine
There must have been some production issues with this game

>>22634917
Slap his ass too, he's a quadsissy so clearly enjoys that.

>>22634917
> O' queefe
Apply double earshot directly to forehead

>>22634076
>7-11
>7 + 11 = 18
>4 lasergun barrels + 20 rocket tubes = 24
at least get the number right, jesus

Does this guy ever actually die? I'm trying to think of any pilots we meet and don't kill but I think this fucker escaped and never got killed.

Is anyone else never killed in any of the timelines

What's everybody's favorite preset AC? Any game. Aaliyah in 4/4A comes to mind but I've really taken a liking to Loader 4 and I've always had a soft spot for the starter in AC1. Sleek and simple.

>>22635467
G2 Nile maybe? I don't think the Redguns would be too eager to work with you after you openly kill their second in command.

>>22635467
you can spare swinburne
ziyi, nosaac, freddie are fights you can run away from
red is technically skippable if you gun it for the exit door, even if you hear his voiceline while you're outside of his area

>>22635627
AC1 starter is pretty nice, as is the Nexus/Last Raven starter
i'm not sure if i agree with rosenquist's little bitch twink interpretation of the ol grasshopper but i guess it makes it more compatible with later generations of AC

>>22635648
Nile dies in the RLF missions in NG+

>>22635648
You'd think he'd show up to more of Balam's missions if he lived. He would've at the very least cautioned Michigan against giving all the warships to Arquebus or frying half their MT force on NEPENTHES, for starters. As is, Nile's one of the casualties of AC6 having too many characters and not enough missions for them to do things in.

>>22635872
>H+
>Karasawa
>Moonlight
>Big Missile
>Back mounted energy cannon
>speedy lrj frame that would be horribly overweight otherwise, painted black
Yep, it's first gen Armored Core time.

FROMSOFT KILLED VD... AGAIN<br>you cant play free battle anymore on ps3, hope you got a good cpu for emulaton...

https://youtu.be/jtdtCwTl5Zw?t=6m20<wbr>s<br>Our pilebunker really looks inspired by this one

>>22633180
The amount of seething towards the player Stinger has is just funny to me. Especially when he started mumbling to himself when Phantasma was defeated the first time.

Where do they find all these gambling retards?

>>22636345
>the entire Armored Core series was just the yakuza using FromSoft as a front to advertise gambling
Deep

>>22636133
Isn't VOTOMS the main inspiration for AC?

>here's a mission, we promise to pay
>no we're not gonna pay lmao
Yeah fuck you too AC2.

>>22636637
Always bothered me how my favorite weapons have such expensive ammo. Like, don't they need to run a generator cost for energy weapons or something?

>>22636156
It's even better when you look up the Japanese cast and its Sho Hayami channeling his old Gavlet Gablae performance.

>>22636687
Make me an L-Gaim game NOW, Fromsoft.
You owe it to me.

>>22636733
They did. It’s in the ACE games. Their play mechanics suit Heavy Metals the best too.

>>22634917
Snipe him across the map with my FASANs.

What are some customization options you would like in the DLC/next game??<br>For me it's special effect surface options, like colorshift for example.

>>22636835
Stabilizers, or some kind of similar accessory item slot that can be set anywhere at any angle and resized.

>>22636835
Light Brightness, it already exists but the could let you change it like luster when painting the AC

I've got an actual question for someone with more veterancy than I. I'm playing ACV right now and enjoying it just fine. Was it disliked purely because of it coming off the tail of For Answer, or is there something I'm missing?

>>22637081
I did end up liking ACV but I personally didn't like the feeling of flying the bastard child of an 18-wheeler and an M1 Abrams

having such a dumptruck ass gets distracting but you get used to it

>>22637081
it ran at a silky 12 - 15 FPS on consoles, while most levels are varying levels of gray / dark brown, while simultaneously turning your screen blue every 2 - 3 seconds for energy regen in addition to the chromehounds frankenstein defense system, while people would snipe territories 3 in the morning when no one else was on.

oh and there's no normal flying like any other armored core in the series.

so yeah, you're missing like, almost the fucking entirety of it.

>>22637269
All solid, asides from the flight complaint.
Flying is for cucks, walljumping was the absolute shit and its sad to not see it come back.
Scan mode switching was ass, but my most autistic complaint was how KE guns worked. Sluggish as fuck, and no decent machineguns. You either rifle plinked or had to deal with fuckass ugly gattlings

>>22637269
OB strafing tanks with sniper arms blowing entire chunks off your health is almost as gay as Sekirocore, like it's a really tight race there.

>>22637269
g ot to give it to them, creating such a unique bomb of a game that it tanks the series for a entire decade is almost a work of art.
like you have to actively try to put so much dumb shit in.

>>22637353
chromehounds was shit, and im tired of pretending it wasnt

>>22637350
The friends you made along the way.

>>22636835
Antennae, swappable forearms, stabilizers, customizable garage

>>22635726
>That tiny AC
We need to go back. Give me the small ACs. I don't want my AC to be the size of 3 stories tall, I want it to be just big enough to fit me in it

I NEED MORE
I WANT MORE BOSSES OR A BOSS RUSH MODE FOR MORE PARTS SO I CAN FOGHT MORE BOSSES
OR A HORDE MODE WITH VARYING ENEMY TYPES, THE REDGUNS MISSION ISN'T CUTTING IT ANYMORE
I NEED MORE BOSSES FROMSOFT
EXPAC CAN'T COME FAST ENOUGH
I ALREADY BEAT ALL THE OTGER GAMES AND I AM NOT SATISFIED

>>22637537
yeah none of the missions are hard bud
not really the series for "challenging" content

>>22637540
I DIDN'T FUCKING SAY IT WAS HARD
IT'S FUN AND I WANT MORE

What do you think of my Mass Produced parts only lightweight AC

which AC6 levels do y'all think would be most suited for "races"?

I have an inkling of an idea where I wanna do a sort of "Group B" type racing event with me and some fellow AC nerds where we make tunes for max speed/handling rather than damage output. I think that'd be fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n9<wbr>eakXNsIQ<br>How do we feel about Vaati saving sekirocore yet again, anons? Our response?

>>22637537
>>22637564
based fun haver
im in the same boat

>>22637596
Depends on what kind of race, but probably something huge like Grid 86 or PCA fuel base, so you have lots of space and varied terrian.

>>22637596
Assault boosting through the hallway on the Xylem leading up to Carla makes me extremely happy

>>22637530
A lil bit bigger would be better. With such skinny frame and considering the size of the car, this leans more into being an exosuit than it does a mech.

People say they beat ibis with shot guns. I tried this and he never gets close enough for that to do anything.
I can boost to him but he'll fly across the map from me.
I've tried tank miniguns and that's way too slow. My regular quick mini gun with pulse sword isn't working either. Getting kind of tired of this.

>>22637537
Man, imagine if there was a random mission generator, it would pick out the map, the path through it, objectives, types and amount of enemies and even custom made ACs.
Occasionally maybe even sprinkling in a bossfight if the proper map gets selected.
The replayability would be insane.

>>22637585
Are Schneider parts even mass produced??

>>22638129
By shotguns they mean zimzams and nothing else.

>>22636637
You sure they didn't pay you before the mission started? Some missions give the pay up front and that doesn't show up in this report. It's also a good tell of a story mission

>ammo at 30%after first phase.
Are these just really bad weapons? I can dodge Ibis attacks okay to get through with 2 repair kits with this build but there's just zero damage.
>>22638138
Those got nerfed I thought? I never tried them. Pretty heavy and slow.

>>22638177
They are still strong as fuck, still the best kinetic weapon. 2 zimm 2 earshot and you will rape ibis and every other thing in the game.

>>22638134
Surely not in the way BAWS is, but I assume OP meant "available to a mercenary on the open market" lore-wise.
I also like building as he does...

>>22638230
Is there even any NPC merc that has Schneider parts??

>>22638236
Just checked, King has the KASUAR head and that's it.
The fact that you can purchase Schneider parts very early on seems evidence enough that any merc could get their hands on them.

>>22638236
Monkey Gordo uses them, check his ID or corpse. King also uses Kasuar head.

>>22638177
Wuergers are very strong. Ibis just has high energy defense and low explosive defense. Energy damage feels like it is nearly cut in half versus all institute tech enemies and bosses, while explosives shred them. If you are still stuck on Ibis, just make a missile boat and use something more honest on your next go-through.

>>22638277
i might be stupid as I just died to the two ACs at the start of the mission. First time that happened also the first time I have tried missiles. They don't seem to good?

>>22638177
ibis has explosive weapons as its especific weakness. the meta build is to do a full loadout of normal missiles but you can probably do something more creative than that

>>22638315
Those back units aren't that nice in PVE, and I'm pretty sure ibis is way too fast for them to ever hit reliably. Try other missiles. For ibis I like going with two ransetsu RF, one BML-G2 and any melee weapon for big damage upon stagger. Two smg also works great so long as you can stay on ibis ass, which should be easy with your build, make full use of assault boost and kicks. And if you're lucky you can <s>hold her hand</s>

>>22638324
This bastard is cheating on Walter! Get him, boys!

>guy with AC named Judas betrays you
Bravo Miyazaki.

>>22638134
Presumably so considering it doesn’t say they’re custom or unique, unlike the parts that say they’re built for the Vespers or the parts that say they’ve been customized.

>>22638315
The missiles you've got in your hands are fine but I recommend the 6-shot straight-shooting ones in their place. They hit more often and lock on faster.

After many attempts with several builds I've decided this isn't enjoyable. Ibis wins and I will not see the rest of the game. <br>Usually I can overcome difficult jumps and feel good about it and get mastery of a game but there's something about this one that just isn't enjoyable. RIP. Could just be that I want to play around my favorite anime mechs in big battles.

>>22638497
You need to rely on your core's abilities more and be more liberal in battle.

>>22638497
make sure you're using the proper technique for dodging the sword beams. the projectile warning is timed kinda weird for it, you want to specifically watch for the projectile to already be out and THEN use your QB to reverse your direction.

>>22638497
Dunno if it'll work for you, but I beat him by waiting for an opportunity where he's stationary before stunning him with the charged laser lance + zimmerman before raping him with a charged piledriver.
Worked pretty well for me, but I agree that the fight is pretty annoying.

>>22638516
Sword doesn't hit me until it does the massive circle one in phase 2. I get peppered by lasers after losing sight of it. I genuinely don't know how people keep up with it and use melee. 80% I just don't see anything until I get smacked by a random attack in the sky.
I feel like I could beat it with the Zimmerman missile combo I got it to less than half phase 2 with it. I just don't want to grind it out waiting for the one fight I win.
>>22638508
Probably. Honestly I don't really know how to use assault armor. I thought I did but ibis showed me I didn't. Before I'd bait melee and pop it getting full staggers. That doesn't work with ibis. I can't use it without taking damage. I can't accurately kick it ever. I miss or it zips away and I get bombed. Frankly I can't even dodge the big fuck off laser consistently. And when I do dodge it I can't attack as it just flies away as I shoot.
Through out the rest of them I've just been using old man gundam build or a zaku build. Neither one of those seem effective on it at all. The bazooka barely scratches even with stagger. I much prefer the raid missions than any of the boss fights. Well the AC boss fights were fun. Especially the redgun raid where I had zero ammo and had to kick/punch things. That was challenging and enjoyable. This isn't especially with all the waiting between retries and phases. And talking.

>>22638497
I'm really bad at the game and even I beat it man you can do it.

When I was still new to the game I beat it with a fuckass build using dual chainguns and dual stun needle launchers lel

>rusty calling overseer clowns
what a trip

>>22638562
>I'll chase the clowns from over Rubicon!
>Only I can fly high enough!

>Rusty starts calling himself "Beat Buddy" out of nowhere.
Augmentation. Not even once.

>IBIS
Just wait for it to get close and then shoot/melee it. The lasers can be dodged by just moving most of the time and you melee it for big damage.

>>22638497
Ibis was my biggest hurdle when I first played the game. Swap to double Ransetsu RFs and some quick missiles like the lightweight ones that split that I can’t remember the name of, use pulse armor or terminal armor, whichever you’re more comfortable with, the nachtreiher arms and good mid ranged fcs and you’ll get it easy.

>>22638497
Once I was where you are now.
Only for me it was the giga final boss.
Then I changed my build until my thrust was 370 and everything was just better

>>22638416
Miyazaki first worked on Last Raven.

>>22638570
>wait for it to get close
Outside of one attack Ibis keeps safe distance.

>>22638416
Judas is a dub change, the Japanese AC name is Zehn Gebote (Ten Commandments in German). You can see it written on his emblem. Agetec redubbed so many pilot/AC names and I don't really know what compelled them to do it.

okay, I can maybe see myself having a lil fun with this game. Not sure how I feel about only rotating along the XY plane in my Current Year's mecha game, but it sure is pretty

>>22638641
Well that's normal for EN translators, they always change things over dumb reasons like they think it's more clever that way or it might offend someone. Pretty sure they changed that GA chick's emblem in AC4 because it was some religious stuff.

What’s the best build you can make using Loader 4 parts and/or the raven visor?

miss the ac3(ace combat three) planes from ac3(armored core 3), how come we dont have jets anymore since lr?

>>22638860
you played as jets in 4 and beyond that the devs probably figured they'd be annoying to fight

>>22638783
Well I just beat Iguazu with NOTFALL here, if that matters.

hey op, replace the old rpcs3 acvd pack with this
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yJ<wbr>YBcLu7mp-KCq1Mv5Bpnw0YYzP9KVML/view<wbr>
regulations will block free battle in the outdated pack.

>>22638497
Just build a tanky biped with Buerzel boosters, equip dual zimms and dual songbirds and assault boost into ibis over and over. Your little twink mech with close range weapons is just getting shredded.

>>22630320
Just learned about disc 3
Why the fuck aren't these in the base game
Why did we get a dogshit ost when they were hiding god tier remixes and straight up better versions of what we got in the game?

>>22638927
probably directorial intent
https://twitter.com/kota_hoshino/st<wbr>atus/1776241848203543021
reportedly the disk 3 version of Contact with You is the original version and the ingame one was derived from it

>>22638938
Well the director completely fucked up. Get this nigga outta here

>>22638958
the nose on this aaliyah core looks way shorter than usual...

I just wanted... a callsign of my own...

>>22638860
It was probably something like:
>Gen 4
Everything is too fast as is, flying Normals might as well be considered jets.
>Gen 5
Everything is too slow so making player fight jets in ACs with no boosters would be such torture that even FROM thought it was too much.
>AC6
You can be fast but the game clearly wanted to center itself around melee, so "Grug no can hit big iron fly with pile bunker Grug not happy".

>>22638497
All you need to remember is the first exploitable pattern, the slash pattern, delay your dodge on the cross slash, and to just keep ramming into/getting close to it. Phase 2 has those odd attacks where you dodge right into them (why does Fromsoft love those?)

Hey guys I think I found a reference to Armored Core in Otome Mob.

>>22639548
but this is valkyria chronicles?

>>22639611
Anon Leon is a mecha pilot and he has a aven and a 621 on his lapel right there

>>22639614
>has a Raven and a 621*
sorry

>>22639614
yeah sure but it's more obviously the scout class from valkyria chronicles
look see even the armor plates are in the same place and have the same stripe running down them

>>22639835
It's a manga/anime about a guy reincarnated into a women's erotic game and absolutely annihilating the man-hating atmosphere of it using his game knowledge. He also bullies his sister because she reincarnated too and is the one who blackmailed him to play a women's erotic game

>>22639840
Why would an erotic game geared towards women have a "man-hating atmosphere?" what the fuck

>>22639972
Remember that women hate all men who aren't hyper rich alphagigachadlords.

>>22628226
I never used a bazooka. What's the benefit over a GL?

>>22639548
that's fanart you dumbass.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/1<wbr>16017975

>>22640012
the projectile speed is faster so it's easier to hit midair targets and faster targets in general. the proximity trigger also makes it hard to react to. like a giant rifle shot, basically.
while GLs take advantage of poor positioning to get splash damage onto the enemy, bazookas either take advantage of enemies not using their QBs wisely or are used to trade damage against other brace-to-fire weapons

Why does ALLMIND sound so defeated and sad in japanese? Like she's on the verge of tears.

>Laser shotgun looks like a crossbow when charged
EXTREME kino.
Is it any good?

>>22640282
So, the bowcaster from the jedi knight games? Neat.

>>22638244
>Let's see how far you can swing...on borrowed vines
>ARMORED CORE 6: THE FIRES OF AMAZON

>>22638497
it took me 2 whole days of grinding to finally beat ibis my first go around and I was covered in sweat when I finally did it. Nowadays I can not play the game for weeks and beat ibis first try without much effort at all. You can do it buddy, the first time is always the hardest. The key isn't to get to creative about it, focus on dodging its attacks and when it's relatively close to you, you just blast her with standard weapons till she spazzes out and starts zipping around again, then it's time to focus on dodging. Eventually you'll get a stagger and you should use that for a melee attack or something. a fast build helps a lot with tracking her down to build up stagger

>>22640219
So Leos Klein didn't care about restoring Ravens or getting power, he just wanted to transition

>>22640747
it gets the job done
RAN-AR is the one that really needs a buff

So uuuuh, why is Pater alive during the Escape mission, even if you eliminated him during Ambush the Vespers? Plot hole?

>Nineball seraph
HOW DO YOU BEAT THIS SHIT

>>22640964
sawa and lots of backpedalling

>>22640904
He ejects.
He's actually more bitter in Escape if you did do Ambush the Vespers

>>22640964
I assume you're enjoying Another Age
The trick is to get some medium biped, a shoulder radar, a laser blade, some CQC gun with high DPS within a short interval encounter, and maybe some missiles for short-medium distance combat, and whatever extension you fancy
The main trick is to OB tap while bunnyhopping to dodge whenever he switches to flight mode, then, whenever he lands behind you, to b-hop backwards without turning to 9BS too much, until he's in your sights (this is an universal maneuver for gens 1-5 and it's never brought up). Shoulder radar helps here because head radars' scan intervals are trash (and you're better off honing your CQC dogfight instincts with no radars at all rather than rely on a head radar)
It's extra easy with 9BS because 9BS is addicted to trying to laser blade you even if you're above his reach, so you can even just keep flying backwards at a certain altitude if you don't want to risk hops. You can blade his ass for bonus style points if you're ballsy enough

>>22640904
He survives, just like Iguazu if you fight him at Dam Complex. His dialogue will change depending on if you did Redguns or Vespers. If you did the Ambush, he will call himself V.V (confirming that Hawkings is dead) and angrily order MTs to kill you because he's big buttmad at you. Snail also survives if you fight him in Eliminate Cinder Carla and appears later as Balteus in Destroy the Drive Block, his dialogue will also reflect you ignoring or fighting him prior.

>>22640964
He routinely tries to get behind you and fights the same as he did in MoA. Back to the wall, use weapons like bazookas, stay just a bit in the air so his sword beams don't hit you. Light/medium build best for this.

>need to do a pose for each handheld bazooka or grenade shot, cant use anything else while doing it
>meanwhile even the lightest featherweight can shoot two morleys or earshots simultaneously while also shooting handhelg guns before recoil (except zookas and nades)
?????

>>22641119
akimbo pose for dual bazookas would probably look dumb as hell
also it keeps them balanced since they're typically lighter than their back-mounted counterparts

>>22640964
I did it with a lightweight RJ, grenade launcher weapon arms, back radar (in order to track his location), multi missile extensions and ground torpedoes. I'm pretty sure he doesn't have any AMS capability, just keep in mind you can't hit him worth shit when he's flying. Just backpedal as much as possible while hopping/strafing (you want to hop over any blade waves) and dump missiles at him, and if he gets too close punish him with the grenade arms. Don't be afraid to OB to get some space if he gets too close to you because his dual MOONLIGHTs will pretty much kill you instantly. Otherwise you kind of need to get a feel for OB'ing to try and avoid the missile salvos and hope he doesn't spend too much of the fight flying around.

>>22641838
This was my specific build:
Head: EHD-WACS
Core: ECL-ONE
Arms: EAW-DC10
Legs: ELB-5005B
Booster: ZBT-H4/T
FCS: LODD-QHT (I might have swapped this out at some point, alternatively use whatever has the fastest missile lock)
Gen: HOY-B1000
Radiator: RPS-MER/SA
Inside: None
Extension: BEX-BRM-04
Back R: ZWM-GT/00
Back L: ZRS-554/BW (or EM-SD120 if you don't need back radar)

>Oh cool, Vaati made a 5 hours long video
>Half the lore is wrong

>>22642096
it's vaati what do you expect

>>22642096
He didn't find someone good to plagiarize from, please understand.

>Chief pilots the Exusia
>the exusias are 6th in the hierarchy of angels
>Chief's emblem is the Hanged Man, a tarot motif with a man hanging upside-down
>if you turn a 6 upside-down it becomes a 9

>>22638641
Strung is still a Judas reference, though, as is Matthias.

>>22642645
Exusia also runs on Kojima particles

>>22642962
>>22642962
>>22642962
What parts would you have liked to see in gen 4?

>>22642968
Always felt gen 4 lacked classic tank legs like these. The jap ones just look too cubical.


Anonymous

How did Char manage to say that it with a straight face?

You would be shitting yourself seeing one.

>>22627970
Id shit myself just because anon. That thing looks like a dweeb

>>22627969
The Zock is packing nine fucking mega particle cannon and is gigantic even by the standards of mobile suits. Don't mock the Zock.

>>22627969
It's called being sarcastic. Char is a sassy fuck all the time.

>>22627969
You have to keep in mind 2 things
>it probably would look scarier to the Japanese audience in the 70s, born in the early 60s, where tanks only just recently stopped looking like this
>it does generally look imposing when not drawn at low-budget and you can see the full size of the thing, see >>22627997

>>22627970
>>22627969
I actually had a nightmare about this thing.

It was pitch black at night and me and my parents were evacuating our town and speeding down the highway as we received news that Zeon was advancing and pushing us back.

It was like 3 am and the highway was only Illuminated by moon towers like pic related. Anyway I look at the rear view mirror and I see that fucking thing except it's only towering silhouette as it's covered in black shadow. It was speeding down the Highway FAST. And that yellow monoeye looked down directly at us. And it was just zooming and catching up at break neck speed. It didn't fire. It's like the pilot was a sadistic sob who wanted to squash us. It fucked off as we managed to get into the city limits where the last stronghold is and so the city defenses started pelting it with artillery. Guess it wanted to wait for reinforcements
But still
Scariest /m/ dream I had and I have a lot of them for some reason.

I also used to be scared of the Zakerello as a kid playing Federation vs Zeon. I think they nailed the designs in scaring kids and seeing the Gundam as a heroic superhero to hide behind.

>>22627997

I concur. Out of the designs Clover demanded upon Sunrise, the Zock worked.

>>22629047
Tomino himself designed it
That being said it is rather clever IMO. As with many of the more pure aquatic MS, it's got a sort of schrage muzik deal where it can operate and use some of its weapons uniquely from a prone (swimming) position, and it's radially symmetrical, but it seems it was the wrong set of principles for the opponent it had to face in the end. A number of attempts at reworks and redesigns of it seem to miss on the radial symmetry/swimming nature of its design.

>That yime Zeon attacked Jaburo with a bunch of aquatic mechs that were never seen again just to sell toys

>>22629060
>Tomino himself designed it
This explains why I felt something similar looking at it when comparing with the Tomino Zaku

>>22629114
Actually that was one of the cool things about the Jaburo attack, both in the show and movie you see MS that showed up earlier once again, even if only briefly. Zakus, Goufs, Doms, Z'Goks, and Goggs all took the stage again. The Zock and Acguys specifically were all specialized machines of some kind, with the Zock being a heavy assault machine and the Acguys being dedicated infiltration MS. When Char dropped over Jaburo in his own Z'gok he had two Z'gok wingmen who got merked instantly, and the other White Base machines meanwhile had to deal with a pair of Goggs that tried to bust into the White Base's dock. Of all the aquatic machines Zeon made the Z'gok seemed to have been the most common in the TV show, the Mad Angler for example had a fucking shitton of them inside of it when it deployed the Grublo, and it was while some of these Z'goks were attacking the White Base that <s>Miharu died.</s>

They're still all MOTWs at heart but I'd argue Gundam did a pretty good job of integrating them into the show in a way that made sense and which fit like a glove onto Zeon's strategic situation.

>>22629114
The problem is, I don't think they ever even made toys of each and every enemy from MSG. When I search for pictures of the old shitty Clover toy line, all I can ever find are the Gundam, White Base, etc. Maybe they made a Zaku, but I highly fucking doubt they even made a Z'Gok toy, and that would have a better chance of selling than an Acguy.

>>22629114

it's kind of a funny thing that in-universe Zeon seem like they really valued underwater superiority to the point of building multiple suits for it, when the army on the planet with all the water didn't

>>22629341
>The earth is 70% water of course we need underwater mobile suits!
kek

>>22629363
Are they ever going to make that "Zeong with legs" concept they showed in Crossbone?

>>22629615
I mean there is the perfect zeong

>>22628035
I feel like the japanese audience in the 70's, born early 60's, would probably be far more exposed to tanks imported by the americans.
They probably would not have been as exposed to japanese vehicles, especially considering that the US wanted to clamp down on anything calling back to Imperial Japan.

I wouldn't rule out that they probably were aware of japanese vehicles though.

>>22627997
>is gigantic
>yet in this very image it stands no taller than a Z'Gok
pretty funny

>>22627969
I mean, this is the guy who said "she could've been a mother to me" with a straight face before dying

>>22627969
>shoots out ship-tier mega particles from every direction
>also is the only MS with phonon maser gun which sounds exotic & powerful
pretty scary for its place & time.

>>22629341
well they also work well on land, they have beam weaponry too so they're not as niche as you think.

>>22630140
He wanted her to have his kids. That's what the line meant.

>>22628120
At least it wasn't a wet dream like it usually happens with mecha dreams

>>22628120
Those LED streetlights are pure cancer at night.

>>22630347
They don't help you see any better.

>>22630255
It's still a notable mark against them that to actually use that beam weaponry aquatic MS basically cheat, they use seawater in their ballast tanks for cooling purposes, meaning that if they're on land too long or run out of water they can't use those weapons safely if at all. Useful on land, but only for so long, plus, land use makes certain aquatic MS weapons or weapon arrangements like the Z'gok's head missiles or the Gogg's Freezy Yard useless.

>>22627969
Looks dumb as hell but I love it. It must be a Tomino mechanical design.

>>22628120
Kek what a fag. Imagine being scared of a zock.

>>22629372
>I've never been to this planet before
>it's 70% water
>there could be feddies anywhere he thought to himself as the cold sea water circulated through his fusion reactor
>I hate feddies

>>22630515
"FEDDIES could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this sea before. There could be FEDDIES anywhere." The arctic ice read green on his readouts. "I HATE FEDDIES" he thought. Imaginary Sky reverberated his entire cockpit, making it pulsate even as the raw ocean water circulated through his powerful suit's reactor amd washed away his (merited) fear of Federation mobile suits. "With a Hy-Gogg, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.

>>22629310
Japanese toy lines rarely made villains outside of kaiju-heavy series. Clover did do a few small Zakus and Doms after they realized tastes were shifting more to the Real Robot aesthetic. Bandai did make kits of all the aquatic stuff, including the suits like the Zogock that got cut from the show and shunted to the MSV world.

>>22630331
Char dropped Axis because he wanted to have the biggest, most glorious rematch with Amuro. Stop denying it you fucking Charfags.

>>22627969
Anon, you're forgetting it's an almost 24-meter tall fuckhuge ball of metal covered in laser cannons

I rember fighting yje Zock in MS Saga it was the first boss to give me somthing resembling trouble

>>22628120
that dream sounds kinda cool, i wish i dreamed of mecha too. since you mentioned a yellow mono-eye i assume you were chased by a zaku sniper type, maybe its gun broke down.

I learned to fear the Zock when I played Journey to Jaburo on the PS2

>>22632593
it's the first real boss period


Did I misunderstand something? Shouldn't she be in prison or dead by Uraki's hand?

[ZetaRebel] Mobile Suit Gundam - 0083 Stardust Memory - 13 - A Storm Raging Through (BD x264 1080p DTS) (00_26_29) 0023.jpg

Women shouldn't bear responsibility for their own decisions. That's what Tomino says.

Corpojews always skate out of consequences.

>>22627842
Uraki didn't talk, nobody but him and her knows what happened in the colony. Thats why she looked so relieved. Nina got away with murder and gets to keep the loser.

>>22627865
Gundam has made me misogynist. I hate how often an overly emotional women gets in the way of two manly rivals, or a grand plan. They don't belong in the battlefield.

>>22627842
The writers couldn't decide what to do with Nina's character so you're just kind of left with the mess that is her.
Its best to just not think about the writing in 0083 too much.

The ending of Rebellion really fixes a lot of the plot holes and just plain shit writing in Stardust Memories (although it can't escape being a little bit of Zeon wankfest). The best part is Nina and Kou because THAT was a big surprise!

Kolchak

>>22627911
Monsha really is the true hero of 0083.

Anonymous

>>22627867
Gundam made you a misogynist? Lucky, you must not have met a real woman before, they do a pretty good job of that themselves.

>>22627911
>The ending of Rebellion really fixes a lot of the plot holes

Like what, other than Nina not being there when Kou's released?

>>22627918
>Monsha really is the true hero of 0083.

and "Donald" is the true loser of AoZ.

Wasn't Gato being her ex added into the last episode to force drama? Like in the first episode she sees him stealing the GP02, yet she doesn't recognize him.

>>22629261
hence, the shit writing criticism

>>22629261
there was some pretty clear foreshadowing some episodes before

>>22627855
>That's what Tomino says
Huh? Women get killed all the time in Victory, even for doing good things like being too selfless. Are you retarded?

>>22629387
Maybe in the second half but they see each other in the first episode and can't recognize each other at all

>>22627911
>Rebellion
>fixes plot holes.

No it doesn't. It only makes it worse. They add more nonsense and retcon the ending. The manga makes Gato lose against Kou instead of winning like in the anime. Also Kelly decides to betray Gato for some reason despite Kelly and Gato being hardcore friends who trust eachother with their loves. Uraki's nice guy powers are too much for Kelly and he betrays Gato.

The only thing the manga does better is make Monsha a better character. He literally calls out multiple characters for being idiots and calls out how stupid the Albion acts on life or death situation. He says it's their job to defeat and kill Zeon. Not try to befriend them on the battlefield like Uraki does. It's like Monsha is the self-insert of the reader who questions the author.

>>22629422
>Also Kelly decides to betray Gato for some reason despite Kelly and Gato being hardcore friends who trust eachother with their loves. Uraki's nice guy powers are too much for Kelly and he betrays Gato.
??? This is wrong. Kelly and Gato are hardcore friends in the manga, and Kou didn't woo Kelly over to his side as much as it was a "enemy of my former-friend-turned-enemy is now my friend".

In the OVA, Kelly and Gato are -supposed- to be friends, Gato even wrote a letter to Kelly to personally invite him to join him. However, Gato isn't the one who comes to meet Kelly on the moon, it's Cima. I mean, it's fine that Gato is too busy to personally pick up Kelly since he's basically Delaz's right-hand man, but Gato never actually speaks of Kelly ever again or asks where he is. They really don't seem that close, other than having both hidden out in the same junkyard after the war.

In the 0083 Rebellion manga retelling, Gato and Kelly definitely are friends and actually interact with each other beyond just a single letter. Kelly also lives longer to see the nuking of Konpei island and the subsequent colony drop. It's a godawful misunderstanding, but based on the available information, Kelly discovers that Delaz looks like they're going to drop a colony on the lunar city where Kelly's girlfriend lives. Kelly considers this a betrayal by Gato. He asks Gato over the radio to confirm, but at that time there's no way for Gato to reveal to Kelly that they really mean to drop a colony on Earth without at least two other people overhearing and possibly exposing the ruse, so Gato refuses to tell the truth because Gato is still going to be Gato and he values the success of the operation more than one of his closest friends. Kelly misunderstands this refusal to speak as confirmation of his worst-case scenario and becomes enraged, and Kelly ends up siding with the Feds to try and stop the colony drop.

>>22629471
>They really don't seem that close
They literally fought side by side together in the OYW as comrades. Even before the manga was released, we had databooks to confirm it.

>Kou didn't woo Kelly over to his side as much as it was a "enemy of my former-friend-turned-enemy is now my friend".
Kelly and Gato were never "enemies". This makes no sense.

The whole point of the anime is classic TRAGEDY. That hardcore soldiers like Kelly and Gato will never settle down or accept that Zeon lost. They will continue fighting until they die. Even Kelly, who has a loving woman, will not accept this fate and would rather fight to the death. And Kelly does die. A tragic end showing the fate of Zeon's hardcore soldiers.

Then the 0083 manga goes full R3TARD, and changes Kelly's entire character. He goes from tragic Zeon soldier to: "hurr durr I must go home to my waifu. I must betray my comrades for my moon waifu. I WILL EVEN KILL MY FRIENDS FOR MY MOON WAIFU."

This is a serious violation. This isn't just expanding his character. This is outright changing the entire character story. Anime Kelly would NEVER do that. Clearly some sort of author Japanese self-insert going on here. Maybe he wants to have a wife of his own. Sad.

>>22629390
I'm referring to Reccoa and Quess.

>>22629612
then refer to them instead of making blanket statements?

>>22629503
>Clearly some sort of author Japanese self-insert going on here. Maybe he wants to have a wife of his own. Sad.
Just gonna point out the writer of 0083 Rebellion is Takashi Imanishi. He also directed 0083.

>>22629612
But they get what they deserve?

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>>22629393
>they see each other
Nope. They're far away from each other and the head angle is wrong. Too bad, so sad!

>>22629679
>Takashi Imanishi. He also directed 0083.
Didn't he only direct the 2nd half of 0083? The other director died.

>>22627867
>>22627920
Neither of you have talked to a woman in your entire life lmao

>>22629756
No, you should check the credits. Yes, 0083 had two directors, but Takashi Imanishi directed episodes 2 to 13, scripted episodes 7, 8, 10, 12, 13, and storyboarded 2, 4, 9, 12, and 13.

>>22629679
Perfect example of why you shouldn't let writers also be directors.

What is with these Gundam OVAs and making the Asian guy get with the hot white girl? They never make the girl another Asian. Always white. <br>Would Nina really get with "Kou Uraki the I'm afraid of carrots man baby" in real life? Especially over a Chad like Gato? Yeah right.

>>22629765
Unfortunately, I've had the misfortune of talking to women several times in my life.

>>22629780
0083:

Directed by
Mitsuko Kase (eps. 1-7)
Takashi Imanishi (eps. 8-13)

>>22629836
Just wondering, where did you get that from? That's just wrong. For example, here's the episode 2 credits that show Mitsuko Kase (加瀬 充子) and Takashi Imanishi (今西 隆志)

>>22629858

He is credited as the "episode" director for episodes 2-13 and director for episodes 8-13, whatever the hell that means.

>>22629956
Again, where are you getting that info from? The screenshot from the show's own credits contradicts that, it lists the two of them as just "director" under the same heading.

>>22629858
You can't have two episode directors for a single episode. That's not how things work in production.

So the most likely outcome is that Sunrise was being cheap, and they didn't want to animate two different sets of credits with different names. So they just made one set of animated credits to cover everybody. They just both names and are done with it.

Mitsuko Kase is the episode director for 0083 episodea 1 to 7. Multiple sources confirm this including Japanese Wikipedia (and the sources they use), several source books, IMDB itself, and bio websites covering Mitsuko's work history.

Takashi Imanishi is the director for 0083 episodes 8 to 13.

>>22629780
Which means he directed everything except the demo disc. Stardust Memory's first episode got released early as a substitute for F-91 being delayed a year.

Even ANN has corrected their information:
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/en<wbr>cyclopedia/anime.php?id=23
>Director: Mitsuko Kase (eps 1-7), Takashi Imanishi (eps 2-13)

>>22629780
Mitsuko Kase directed the first 7 episodes. Then handed it off to Takashi Imanishi. That's why there's such a change in tone in episode 8.

>>22629834
isn't it literally just 08th ms team where that happens

>>22629503
>>22629830
It's super interesting to me how all the praise, that I've seen at least, of Rebellion focuses on how it 'fixes' one or two elements and none talk about this shit, which seems far more glaring in terms of actually making the existing parts that worked a lot worse.

>>22630127
Rebellion manga wanks off the Federation a lot more and avoids any real "tragic" elements the original anime. It's like reading an amateur fanfiction where it's clear the author has a bunch of favorite characters and won't kill them off.

Let's look at some of what they change in the Rebellion manga:

<s> Kelly lives. Cima lives. Most of the Cima fleet lives. Gato lives at the end. There was even a moment where I thought they were teasing that Burning was going to live too. Uraki and Cima "team up" to defeat Gato. Wtf? </s>

How are those not the most offensive retcon changes I've ever seen in a Gundam manga? It offends me.

>>22630157
<s>Kelly and Cima living is almost as bizarre as Cima 'teaming up' with anyone. Gato living just completely fucking ruins his character arc.</s>
I don't mind making the Federation a little more competent depending on how it's done but the real thrust of 0083 was the tragedy of these remnant forces. They were denied their honourable deaths in battle and don't know how to live otherwise, so they find a new cause to die for. With the cruel irony that their final middle finger to the Earth Federation directly caused the further eroding of their claimed ideological interests too.
It's like one big suicide by cop that got way fucking out of hand.
There's totally room to execute on the idea better than the OVA did in its back half but it doesn't sound like the manga has done that.

An idea that the show Star Wars Andor brought into its franchise with the fledgling resistance movement was the idea that inciting more aggressive, visible oppression in response to an act of terror can be a net positive for the cause by rallying more people against it, that's probably the direction I'd take if I wanted to try and rework it. Keep the tragedy of the remnants but play up the idea that they've convinced themselves inflicting future generations to their own suffering is a necessary sacrifice for the cause. Bring it back to that classic Gundam 'the last generation ruining everything for the next' idea. But I'm spitballing.

>>22630127
The guy who wrote the Rebellion manga did it by himself and is a fan of melodrama. Instead of fixing the issues the anime had, he just amplified the worst aspects of the anime and changed a bunch of stuff. Nina is substantially worse now.

In the manga, she never had a serious relationship with Gato. They went on like few dates at most, but they didn't sleep together. And Gato just ghosts her and leaves.

Yet Nina becomes OBSESSED in pursuing Gato. Even betraying the Federation and Anaheim. He turns her down multiple times and tells her to go home. That she doesn't belong with Zeon and he doesn't need her or care about her. So Nina tries to commit suicide by shooting herself in the head in front of everyone since she can't be in Gato's life and he won't accept her.

This girl only went on a few dates with Nina at most. I don't even think they kissed let alone had sex. Just hung out on a few dates on the Moon city. And then Gato was like nah I'm done. Then disappeared.
The manga doesn't explain why she's so obsessed with Gato. He doesn't even care about her.

>>22627920
This

If only you knew how bad things really are

>>22629742
>They're far away from each other and the head angle is wrong.
Cope.

>>22629390
those bimbos definitely had it coming for this decision...

>>22627858
>she works for Anaheim Electronics
It's the hidden grammar of the UC power structure

>>22630246
Best part is that his wife is just Marsha Blackburn, neocon extraordinaire. The smartest thing Unicorn ever did.

>>22630259
Tomino should do a series where they deal with the real powerbrokers of the UC timeline.
Have AE try to engineer another massive war but get stopped

>>22629261
I think the intention for the show was that there had to be some kind of love triangle obstacle for Kou and Nina. Then they made Monsha suck and be totally unlikable, so they had to find somebody else. They probably should have put Lucette into the show way earlier and made her the third wheel.

>>22629834
Gato's even more Asian than Kou.

>>22630157
Cima was completely willing to work together with the Albion in the show after receiving orders from Bask. She's even surprised/angered when Kou just starts attacking her and her fleet.

>>22629834
>hot white girl
>Nina
>hot
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>22630157
>How are those not the most offensive retcon changes I've ever seen in a Gundam manga? It offends me.
I'm pretty sure there's significantly stupider in Crossbone and Plot to Assassinate Gihren.

>>22629422
>>22627911
I'll agree it gives Monsha a layer of characterization better than the OVA, but I can't agree it was the only good change. There are a bunch of smaller and offhand changes that on their own just make 0083 less of a narrative mess. The biggest fix to me was the Neue Ziel problem and why Axis couldn't just spam them out. It was a high end prototype that they couldn't properly build without its power generator exploding so they needed La Vie En Rose and Anaheim's technicians to help calibrate it. That whole episode in the manga is something I wish was an episode of the OVA.

>>22630279
>some kind of love triangle obstacle for Kou and Nina
They had the opportunity with Kou's gay one-arm(y) crush.

>>22630001

This was what im finding online.

>>22627842
I bet the Titans fucking space her on the sly sometime before Zeta.

>>22630514
>The biggest fix to me was the Neue Ziel problem and why Axis couldn't just spam them out. It was a high end prototype
It always was a high end one off product. When did you think it wasn't? They say in 0083 that the Axis fleet only had very limited amount of strength. Bask was even confident that the Federation Fleet (even after getting nuked at Solomon) was more than enough to wipe out the Axis fleet.

Axis really didn't even have the resources to mass produce giant mobile armors until ZZ Gundam. And by that point, they felt that smaller high end custom suits like the Doven Wolf and Zaku III were better mass production choices for their troops.

>>22630505
Sincere question, what stupidly offensive retcons are there in Crossbone?
The only ones I can think of are the Jovians somehow having access to Amuro's Core Fighter, and Umon's (obviously) tall tale about how he's the reason Amuro didn't get to fight Gato, which is very likely bullshit on the old man's part.

>>22630514
Axis didn't mass produce it because mobile armors were very expensive and time consuming to build. The 0083 anime already assumes the viewer is familiar with this lore based on Gundam shows that came out before it. 0083 after all was made as a video release for Gundam fans. You had to actually order the 0083 video tape from Sunrise. Brand new gundam fans aren't likely to do that.

>>22630906
The B-Gundam is canon because it's funny and makes fun of Gato. But everything else is retarded.

>>22629422
>The manga makes Gato lose against Kou instead of winning like in the anime.
Good, fuck him. the Dendrobium is fucking sick and it looked too cool to end up being scrapped by some dollar store alpha aizeru.

>>22630906
Literally everything to do with the Jupiter Empire and everything secretly being a Jupiter Empire conspiracy to cause wars in the earth sphere. It's something Hasegawa invented for his story and he can't even decide if the helium transport fleet was independent of the empire or not.

>>22630919
>Dendrobiumfags
This is why Stardust Memory should be consigned to the wastes.

>>22630889
>When did you think it wasn't?
When Axis actually entered the earth sphere with the Quin Mansa, an army of Qubeley Mk IIs, Doven Wolves, Zaku IIIs, and Bawoos (actual mass produced Zeta Gundams)

>>22630927
If you're trying to look at me with a straight face and tell me that the "tie a bunch of fucking rockets to a mech to give it massive speed boost" approach isn't a sick design choice then you have no taste and I will no longer waste words with you.

>>22630936
I could just post the Freedom and Justice METEORs and prove you wrong

>>22630919
>Good, fuck him. the Dendrobium is fucking sick and it looked too cool to end up being scrapped by some dollar store alpha aizeru.
<s> Kou wins by teaming up with Cima, and Kou also uses a modified Stamen. The Dendrobium doesn't win. Kou actually abandons it and let's it be destroyed. </s>

>>22630929
Those didn't come until later when Axis took over part of the Earth sphere and had a bunch of resources and factories. Including Side 3.

>>22630962
At least it put up a better fight, right?

R-right...?

>>22630919
>>22629422
I always thought it was lame that in the anime Kou doesn't eject the gundam out of the giant missile carrier part of the dendrobium and stab gato's giga cockroach. That said, gato's gigaroach looks way easier and fun to use for a 1v1. Dendrobium looks godawful to use in a 1v1 against a similarly sized opponent, but seems way better to fight a horder of mobile suits with, thanks to all the missile pods.

>>22630936
You reminded me how similar Balteus is to Dendrobium.
>powerful energy shield/I-field
>giant fire sword/giant beam sword
>bazooka/mega beam cannon
>both have an insane number of missiles to spam
>mobile suit/something that looks like an ac in the center
The major differences would be that Dendrobium has more handheld bazookas + arms and claws to manipulate its gear with, while Balteus has a shotgun, double minigun, and a flamethrower.

>>22633093
Dendrobium wasn't really designed for it, the GP units were all designed around specific roles as support units, they loosely seem based on the V Project units. GP01 is the most direct parallel to the original RX78 but faster with its additional boosters, the GP02 fills the role of the Guncannon with the added benefit if being able to deliver a nuclear payload (admittedly this is sort of a retcon with the addition of the missle pod MSV of the GP02), and the GP03 covers everything the Guntank and G Armor could do but on a wider colony/fleet sized scale. Point being the Dendrobium isn't really meant to go one to one with other comparable units, it was meant for general widespread destruction on enemy forces and being able to zip away far very fast. The Neue Ziel is a lot more agile, it has that turning speed you do want in 1v1 engagements.

The Dendrobium by all means can but just from its role as a payload delivery system it's not that suited for it.

>>22627842
Nina Purpleton and Nina Einstein: name a better duo of horrible /m/ bitches who ruined the world over their obsessions and got away with it.

>>22629835
kek he's spoken to women so few times he still considers it exceptional

>>22630929
Zeta is not meant to me taken seriously. It's Tomino anime. You're supposed to focus on the characters and not the terrible world building. You no shit have things like Kai showing up in suit and cracking a whip at 4 soldiers armed with machine guns and the next sceen is the soldiers all tied up and disarmed. It's not supposed to taken seriously.

>>22635845
Exceptionally awful experiences.

>>22627894
Is Rebellion any better? Keep in mind Kou never really cared about Nina, and only they knew the whole truth to trust each other as much as possible. Their bond is only professional, and he would have killed her on the spot if she intentionally gave the GP02 to Gato in the first place just to create a lead-up to Zeta the way the OVA was created.

>>22636879
Just read everything else, no, it just added a nuke to a burning dumpster. Rebellion made it worse to where it would break off to turn Advance of Zeta into its own universe like Thunderbolt.

>>22636879
Rebellion manga ramps up the Nina craziness to new levels of drama between Nina and Gato and Kou, but it does end hilariously with Kou NOT meeting Nina again after everything ends when he gets reassigned to a posting at an EFF base. Kou even hallucinates about her on the jeep next to Mora for a moment but she's not there at all, she already fucked off into space to find something else to do.

Do you guys think Kou, Keith and Mora joined the AEUG or eventually Londo Bell or do you think they just stuck in tje regular EF Forces as part of a test pilot unit?

>>22637874
I think they more likely would have joined Karaba since they were stationed on Earth. Kou might be somewhere else since the OVA ending has him just getting out of prison, while Rebellion has him rejoining as a Hizack pilot alongside Keith.

>>22637874
I think Keith and Moira probably stayed out of it. They both seemed generally good but also at the same time have seen first hand how nasty Zeon was. Maybe they start a family.

Kou with good intentions. probably joined the Titans on Earth. We know there are alot of good people in the Titans but they had bad leadership.

>>22638012
I like to think Keith and Moira started a family

I doubt Kou would be allowed in the titains due to his role in almost not letting them exist even.if it's off reccird

>>22638012
>>22638421
Kou would hear Monsha is in the Titans and join the AEUG just for the chance to shoot him down.

>>22638443
Monsha getting annoyed at how lame the Hi-zack is suddenly gets shot by Kou in a Nemo or a Rick Dias

>>22638503
The AEUG's secret Nemdrobium Orchis

>>22638443
Monsha is a better pilot than Kou

>>22638937
sure why not we can do that to

>>22638683
>Monsha is a better pilot than Kou
I know you are joking but I do think Monsha is better. Kou was a fresh academy graduate. No field experience. The only time we saw Kou using a Non-Gundam suit was in episode 1 and he wasn't very good. Monsha was a OYW veteran and fought in numerous battles against Zeon. He was at Solomon and ABQ. Monsha or one of his squad should have been given the Gundam.

>>22638912
I'm not sure if I like the Anaheim girls or the Shrike team more.


what are some /m/ stuff you crave for translations?

>2 essential games in understanding nadesico story
>no translation for both
:(

if they are so essential they'd be translated

>>22628098
yeah as if westerners would actually use that logic and not just mold reality when facing a hard to translate/inaccessible thing

>>22628069
I'd like Gaia Gear to be finished at some point. If I ever paralyze or otherwise cripple myself and can't do my normal hobbies anymore, I will make it my mission to learn moonrunes to help my fellow /m/en read their white whales.

Dai Yamato Zero go. I just want to see it.

>>22628069
The Blank of 3 years does fill in some holes between the TV show and movie (though it mostly isn't anything you can't just intuit from what they tell you in the movie anyway), but The Mission is a total waste of your time that barely progresses anything.

I mean it's not like it's the the hardest game to just power through but I'd appreciate more context

>>22628069
Nothing. Just learn Japanese.

>>22628133
Do you hate yourself or something?

>>22628069
>Brave Saga 2 manga
>Da Garn novel
>Dendoh novel
>Cima Cima novel
>Megazone 23 novel
>SEED CE 73 Stargazer manga
>Hikarian
>Microman
>Saver Kids

Played through this years ago, but recently have been seeing it gain traction online, so I feel like it might be getting a fan translation in coming years.

RPG Densetsu Hepoi. The premier show of castle mechas and funny old jrpg stories

>>22628919
I just really need more space opera. Speaking of, I really wish the Bodacious Space Pirates novels would have received a translation.

>>22628730
see? already molding reality. it's the truth bro.

Bandai needs to get their shit together and start localizing the OG SRW games to modern stuff. How do they expect people to jump into Moon Dweller?

I'm still hoping that translatorAnon will update the Gihren's Greed translation soon.

>>22629449
The first 3 volumes are translated and the others are being MTLd on Discord: https://www.miniskirtpiratestransla<wbr>tions.org/
I also love space opera. Got any space manga/novel recs in English? I've read all the Leiji Matsumoto manga that are in English as well as Crest/Banner of the Stars, and I'm going to read the LOGH novels.
I personally want the Gall Force and Captain Tylor novels to be translated, as well as the rest of Leiji Matsumoto's manga.

>>22629632
Probably nothing that you haven't already heard of. Though I'd also be happy to see the Starship Operators books get a translation.

>>22628069
Blank was translated years ago and it has nothing to do with the fanfic crap retards keep claiming it's about.

Mission barely has a story and has nothing to do with the movie

Fuck off and die retard

>>22630121
post it then nigger, only thing I can find is some summary online which is not the real deal

>>22629632
>MTLd
What's the point then? I can put a bunch of text myself on google translator or deepl or some shit. Lmao waiting for a real translation.

>>22630373
They have the original 3 volumes that were actually translated and you can't find them anywhere else.

>>22630381
"can't find them anywhere"

Sure, pal.

Still doesn't excuse MTL for others.

>>22630422
You don't have to read the MTL; I personally won't.

>>22628069
The SRW OG Chokijin Denki manga. I even went out and found raws for it. If only I knew a group that would be willing to translate it.

The real understanding of Nadesico is to not bother with PoS and recognise the true ending is the <s>Gekigangar OVA</s>

>>22628069
A bunch of manga that are probably not even that good but i still want to read.
>Gundriver
>Majestic Prince Manga
>Battleground Workers
>seelen the hunting world
>Break Age
>The Last Frontline
>Giant Robo the day the earth burned and babel siege
>Zeorymer Omega
>Sakura Brigade
>Tetsuzin
Etc

>>22628069
I learned japanese just to play Gihren's greed, but i would enjoy a remake.

>>22628972
God I'd love for Microman's stuff to be fully translated because the little I've read/watched of it already tells me this series is for me

>>22628069
There's a lot I'd like, but the ones I'd put at the top are the Tetsujin 28 manga, Five Star Stories manga, and the Outa versions of the Mazinger trilogy

>>22628981
Speaking of Masakazu Katsura, how about the complete Wingman?

>>22628126
Maybe once it gets an anime in 2049.

More Gekiman. That stuff was interesting. I'd love to see the Mazinger chapters.


Now that the dust has settled...<br><s>why did they fry the sky?</s>

imagine not getting a single fucking bump for your cuckplate shit thread lmfao

>>22628693
Retard
Also /m/ is the slowest board


[EiGo] Kamen Rider Gotchard - 35

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Boring three parter

Only good things out of it were Valvachesis and seeing Daybreak again

>Transform into pass riders
>Doesn't have card limit like Zein
>Can just summon 2 clones in any form
Legend is already stronger than Ohma Zi-O at this point

>>22628119
>handwaves away the future Legend exists

>>22628121
8 cards and about 15 episodes left.

>>22628134
>Allows Swartz to keep killing Geiz and Tsukuyomi on loop so he can watch like a spineless cuck

>Nijigon's egg inside Houtarou
What the fuck did Houtarou papa do

>>22628134
>handwaves away the future Legend exists
doesn't work on Zio Saber armor

holy fuck i couldn't care less about this filler bootleg decade shit
i've never 2x speed a kamen rider episode in my life since the start of this arc
i fucking hope no one prefers this bootleg decade over the actual one
if he's meant to be the replacement i would have rather had fucking zio or something
jesus christ these remaining 10+ episodes better make up for it

>>22628290
So you admit to being an actual speedwatcher? Great.

>>22628266
It's not cause it was Saber, that happened because it was Sougo.

Holyshit, they found a way to express Rin's emotion<br>The answer was always there, just add some effect on her!

I assume Legend's actor didn't get his flowers yet

>>22628134
Basic bitch doesn't even have Reiwa riders powers, he's toast at this point.

>>22628290
It was disgusting but at least it's over...

>>22628738
You called?
Waga Maou is eternal and inevitable
Know your place, Reiwachuds

>>22628727
Whoever cast her and Hotarou's actors need to be taken out back and shot. Probably the worst main characters in Reiwa.

>>22628743
Merch-only though. They made it clear in the series Oma Zi-O didn't have the powers of Riders outside of his timeline and those even worked better against him (see when Zi-O Trinity managed to get a hit in). And it happened again with the Saber Watch in the Zi-O vs Decade special.

>>22628743
Even if you want to take these as canon (they aren't) they don't include either of these riders' final forms, which Legend has access too. Not only to them but to multiple other riders from the same shows who also have their final forms. What is Ohma Geats gonna do against the combined forces of the 4 main Geats riders final forms?
He was the strongest, now he's just another fool left to dust.

>>22628290
>i fucking hope no one prefers this bootleg decade over the actual one
The actual one wasted 30 episodes and several movies of my life I will never get back. Legend wins by less screentime.

Interesting that Abyssal King wants to rebuild the world in case of its destruction when Daybreak Gotchard lives in a world of ruin.

>>22628738
Shira-P said Ohma has the powers of every Rider up to the year 2067.

>>22629002
>Even if you want to take these as canon (they aren't) they don't include either of these riders' final forms
The Ridewatches contain the entirety of a Rider's history. It's why Grand can summon any of the Heisei MCs' forms (including the final ones) and weapons despite only being powered by "base form" watches.

>>22628738
He has "all" the rider powers.

>>22629117
In the show itself Oma Zi-O is specifically damaged by Zi-O Trinity because he doesn't have powers from Riders that didn't exist in his timeline.

Shirakura's headcanon is just a headcanon until he actually manages to implement it into the series.

>>22628063
He's making the same face an autistic kid at the school I work at makes whenever he's about to shit himself

>>22629350
zio combines with oma zi-o at the end
even Shirakura said no matter wat zi-o will become oma zi-o

>>22629081
Daybreak said it's Glion who subjugated half of the world and nearly drove humanity and Chemys to extinction in the future.

>>22628292
>>22628058
So Gotchard is doing Legend Rider stuff? I haven't seen the series at all.

>>22629624
It's just a small arc that just ended. Though there is plot relevant things.

>>22628151
Don't tell me they're going do do a fucking m-preg episode...

I know no one in this godforsaken place will believe me, but I have been really enjoying how Gotchard does whatever it wants with the episodic shows and the Legend arc. The main plot is ok but the individual stuff it does is really fun for me. An episodic and hilarious KR series would be a nice change of pace for all this serialized wanking.

Even as obvious as it is, really like Kaguya learning how to value and trust the people he cares about instead of pushing them away. Really enjoyed giving him some development. Can't wait to see how he plays into the movie with Daybreak.

I laughed at how he reacted with the Kachodoki flags, but that's a lame reaction as well, those were Kachidoki's best weapons.

Hotarou gonna give birth to Nijigon, bruh.

>>22629877
I agree, anon. The episodic stuff post-Platinum debut & some of the earlier episodes were a lot of fun. My enjoyment of Gotchard has increased pretty steadily overall.

Did they show the Dooms Clock getting destroyed?

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>>22632910
Oh nvm it was blown up together with the villain during the rider kick. Must have missed it because we're seeing from the side for the first time.

[EiGo] Kamen Rider Gotchard - 35 [0FDCD0A0] [00_19_16]1.jpg

>>22628746
Houtaro's actor at least has moments where you can see of improvement like in episode 33 where you get more reaction rather than just "brainlessly genki". there's no defending Rinne though, her actress ice an emotionless ice queen well past the time she was supposed to have thawed