Anonymous

Reminder that THIS is the real Tallgeese. Give it up boys Leofags won.

>>22406104
TELL ME ABOUT TALLGEESE!
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?

>>22406104
100% field of view was too strong. They had to reduce it to 15%.

>>22406104
Reminder that the lineart Tallgeese would be incapable of turning it's head at all but is constantly shown doing so

>>22406649
>being limited by physical design characteristics
you are not ready for /m/

>>22406104
Leo and Gundam are chopped down Tallgeese. It predates both variants.

Which face reveal was the most disappointing, this, or the Dijeh being retconned into having a Gundam face beneath the mono-eye?

>>22406104
Leo is what happens when you take Tallgeese and strip out anything that makes it good.

>>22406716
The only true upgrade to Tallgeese is Wing Zero after all.

>>22406823
I honestly like Tallgeese's underneath face. There is something cool about mech with real robot design language being decorated to look more special. Same with Graze, its "head" is fake, only serve as a decoration for actual head inside.

>>22406104
I don't care, I'd still let Tallgeese-sama plow my butthole

>>22406104
Why didn't they make a Leo 1.5 which is part way between a Leo and the Tallgeese?

So it would have the back jetboosters and could fly through the air and generally be more mobile but not to the point its giving you a heart attack just from piloting it.
Also the Dober Gun is the coolest weapon in Wing so they'd also have that as standard.

>>22407374
Leo was a concession to resources and manpower.
Tallgeese was such an intense suit that even the (arguably) most skilled MS pilot around almost couldn't handle it before he just stopped being afraid of death or something(?).

If you don't just dismiss what Heero and Zechs do in a Leo as plot armor it means they're actually fairly capable suits, but the average mook just want to stand around and fire off his gun.
It's a lot like original OYW, where Zakus were almost uncontested on the battlefield simply because there were no other significant threats at the time. It led to complacency among pilots and the average tactic was w+m1.

>>22407374
They literally did. Even if it's an "after the series" retcon, there's also the Leo with the flight backpack that appears in the show a few times.

>>22407374
>So it would have the back jetboosters and could fly through the air and generally be more mobile but not to the point its giving you a heart attack just from piloting it.
They don't have doberguns because the little flight pack probably can't counter the recoil too well

>>22408628
It still frustrates me how Wing just mashed projectile and beam weapons into a pile. So you get something that's basically a laser but has recoil and heavyarms ejecting shell casing from a beam gatling.

>>22408705
>heavyarms ejecting shell casing from a beam gatling
When did that happen? I don't think the TV series ever had the detail to bother showing shell casings, while in EW they specifically exclude the word "beam" when referring to Heavyarms' gatling guns

>>22408734
They excluded the word but never said it was physical either.
While TV Heavyarms never drops shells they do directly refer to it's ammunition supply, not an energy one.

>>22408785
Fighter jets never drop shells either. While the jets do it to maintain the weight balance, given the secrecy around the Gundams I could see them doing it to avoid leaving anything to be analyzed.

>>22407374
The Leo with a flight pack had enough power to shift an entire battleship on water and temporarily knock out Wufei in the Shenlong. It's just inexplicably not used

>>22407374
Well there are those OZ prize Leos

>>22408785
>but never said it was physical either
Well my thought was that if they drop the word "beam" then at the very least it's not firing beams anymore, so the only other thing it could be firing is physical ammunition. And then when the Heavyarms finally makes its entrance taking down some Serpents, they even zoom in on the shell casings on the floor.

>While TV Heavyarms never drops shells they do directly refer to it's ammunition supply
I don't really have an answer for that if it's something Trowa said, but if it's something said by the enemy then it might just be the enemy not knowing that like in episode 3.

Also I won't really count it as evidence since back in the 90s since no one would have been autistic enough and it wasn't easy for viewers to see due to low quality recording and pause features back in the 90s, but in the scene where Trowa and Quatre meet Duo and Heero for the first time and get scanned by sensors, the gatling gun is identified as a beam gatling.

>>22408785
>While TV Heavyarms never drops shells they do directly refer to it's ammunition supply, not an energy one.

I mean that could easily by a translation thing or just how beam rifles have a certain number of prepared shots per mission. Energy weapons having an ammo count isn't that unusual in fiction.

>>22408705
Just call it a charged plasma cartridge like the Tibbana gas cartridges in Star Wars.

the jig is up, the leo is the best mobile suit of all time

>>22432429
It's the 1/100 RE/100 Dijeh kit that introduced this retcon, I think. Other recent kits have it too.

Basically, inside the "black shadow" on Dijeh's face you can see it has a Gundam face.

>>22432436
That's fucking trash, the best part of the Dijeh was that Amuro didn't need to be piloting a gundam to wreck house

>>22432480
It is more similar to Silver Bullet and Gundvolva, just pseudo-Gundam and has none of actual Gundam's spec.

>>22432495
That just makes giving it a secret gundam face via retcon even MORE unnecessary

>>22432436
Technically the eyes are just supposed to be sockets.

>>22432582
It's not a whole gundam face, just twin eyes like most federation MS. The Nemo also has twin eyes underneath the visor and the Dijeh at least partially borrows from the Nemo's engineering

I'm honestly curious about fed grunts. They are basically the other side of the same coin.

>>22433022
Most of federation MS are monoeye, though. Jegan, several of GM variants and Jesta are mono eyes, and probably bunch of other federation grunts. They don't have to give gundam head to a monoeye.

>>22433401
Jegan, Nemo, and I think the Augusta GM types are monoeyes, but IIRC the original GM and GM Kai and their variants are some kind of twin eyes behind the visor.

>>22433430
Yeah, but very little of them have actual gundam head like Silver Bullet. I believe the Guncannon have monoeye, too.

>>22433430
Lately, Nemo art show them with a glowing triple eye behind the visor.

>>22433652
That's Katoki's rendition and also an updated model in Unicorn era. Originally, behind the visor is just machinery with 4 glowing LEDs. You can say they are true visor type with no humanoid traits behind the glass.

>>22432436
Oof. That's rough. As other anon's have stated part of the appeal of the Dijeh is that Amuro was such a good pilot he could take whatever sloppy seconds Karuba just had laying around and be sucessful. I guess this was a way to try and merge the Dijeh with Amuro's custom Zeta Plus?

>>22433411
One of the few things I like about CE is that it went full in on the evil Fed aesthetic, unlike Zeta.

>>22434321
Fuck CE, it literally just took all the Zeon suits and repackaged them to sell again, right down to having the same names.

>>22434338
It ain't like they took the F-type and inserted into CE. The body proportions and aesthetics are pretty different, the only thing that's the same is the name.

>>22433424
The mainline GMs up to the GM III, ground type, Kai and E type, Custom and Quel, and Nemo use dual eyes. Even the Jesta here is actually double twin eyes + mono eye in the center. IIRC the Gustav Karl is either quad eyes or compound like the jesta, and the rezel is also compound 4 eyes + monoeye. So it's really just the Jegans and the GM Command variants that are mono-eyes.

>>22433749
That's probably just a quirk of the HGUC. The MG has two eyes and the GBO2 version has big double eyes. In Define there are a few panels where it does a single glowing eye meme (not monoeye) which points to two eyes.

>>22432436
reminds me of the sinanju having feddy-like eye cameras under its mono eye

>>22446142
That ties into the expanded backstory about it being a remodeled Sinanju Stein, which was more Gundam-like with twin eyes. Oddly it seems that in some versions it has light red eyes and it other depictions it is a very light green.

>>22420916
that is so stupid.
also, fuck that trope of just standing there doing dumb speeches or exposition and not killing protags right off the bat

>>22406104
>Large camera center in head
>cover it with a face plate with a slit opening and visor
I never understood this?

>>22406649
>>22406679
Tallgeese was the real Wing's Devil all along...

>>22446311
>trope
You ever thought they just need to stretch time and that talking in moments of action is stylistic and isn't representative of some real overly long sequence of events underneath
It's a TV show, not "make the viewers pause and slow down every moment so they can catch up and do an OSINT analysis with lip reading" real combat footage

>>22446618
>>Large camera center in head
Is it actually all camera and not just transparent visor shielding? What do the official technical arts say?

>>22434321
>unlike Zeta.
the Titans were Feddies

>>22453708
>Left: The Cooler Daniel
>Right: Daniel

Say what you will about Wing but it had some of the best designs of all time. Leos literally rival Zakus.

>>22406749
The Tallgeese being the super up godfather of Leo's is hardly a disappointing fact since it was revealed at its inception. It can't compare to the shitty retcon of the Dijeh.

>>22461019
as usual, multiple existed before and afterward, just never in the same place at the same time

>>22427621
Or perhaps he's wondering, why would you shoot a man after throwing him off the plane?

>>22434045
>As other anon's have stated part of the appeal of the Dijeh is that Amuro was such a good pilot he could take whatever sloppy seconds Karuba just had laying around and be sucessful.
Except Dijeh was a highly customized mobile suit based on the most advanced suit AEUG had that isn't a super prototype like Hyaku Shiki or Zeta. It's not like he sortied in GM II or Nemo.
Honestly, having a Gundam head there is kinda cool, because it makes it a Zeon looking Fed suit, as opposed to a ton of Fed looking Zeon suits of the era.

>>22408705
>heavyarms ejecting shell casing from a beam gatling.
The beams are stored in the bullets anon

They need to make a game like Federation vs Zeon but set in After Colony.<br>Dearly want to pilot grunts like Leos and Tragos and later get add a Tallgeese-prototype to the pool during campaign mode all with that sort of action gameplay (it was much like a Wing-series Gundam showing up whenever a canon character appeared in that considering they were invincible and did massive damage)

Was the Tallgeese really so much faster in terms of speed and acceleration compared to every other mobile suit seen in the setting?
Like no other mobile suit seen in Wing gives its pilots heart attacks from the 2FAST2FURIOUS nature of it.
Wouldn't you be more likely to black out mid-combat from the G's involved in these circumstances?

>>22471134
>later get add a Tallgeese-prototype to the pool during campaign mode

>>22475401
No, they were just too retarded to wear a pressure suit and didn't realize the engine throttle works for more than zero and max power

>>22475406
Wufei is by far the worst of the gundam pilots. Would much rather if his wife had been the pilot of the chink gundam. Would have made Wing slightly less gay.

>>22406104
No, THIS is the REAL Tallgeese!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imb<wbr>PV6CJFhk

>>22475401
It's unlikely. The tallgeese 3 has 95 tons of thrust. Assuming it's around 16 tons fully loaded it should only be capable of around 6Gs of acceleration. All 3 tallgeese are almost identical except equipment. The Wing Zero EW has similar thrust to empty mass ratio so they should both be similar in speed

>>22446082
>Even the Jesta here is actually double twin eyes + mono eye in the center.

Jesta's "4 eyes" are just additional upgrades to the main monoeye originated from Jegan model, and the design language is more akin to Federation Sniper MS. Basically it is still just monoeye with some extra LEDs. You take those out and it will revert to Jegan.

>>22475723
All feddie suits' main camera is the forehead/crest camera, so you could say the same thing about the monoeye

>>22475724
Later era of UC completely ditched GM's visor eyes in favor of Jegan's mono eyes with some upgrades. It makes sense, since both sides have been stealing each other's tech for decades.

>>22408626
Man this design looks like ass, especially the shitty head semi-crest

>>22461019
The geese are It's twin boosters

>>22461019
It's supposed to be "Theurgist" but engrish is too hard prease undastand

>>22479391
That sounds like nonsense someone came up with after the fact because they didn't like it being called bigbird

Leos are great. Looking forward to using one as the basis of my gunpla in GB4.<br>Wonder if it will include the Leo Cannon type by default.

I prefer the Tallgeese 2.<br>Glory to Treize

>>22453691
He meant the mecha aesthetic. Majority of the Titans suits are monoeyes.

>>22489337
Double-wielding Dober Guns is so cool.

>>22475537
were there actually any Wing pilots who weren't fucking insufferable aside from Duo and Trowa? I think Wufei's obnoxiousness would stand out more if he wasn't next to Heero.

>>22489756
I don't understand what you think makes Heero "insufferable". He's distant and incredibly objective to the point of coming off as brusque. But if you're not too overbearing and take the time to know him by going with his flow, he actually ends up being the best Wingman you could ask for.

>>22494997
The Tallgeese is older than the Gundams in Wing.

The Aries were cool aerial mobile suits but they don't get any respect, apart from their kickass original design compared to pretty much any other MS in the franchise they don't seem to be any better at it when they bring in bullshit flying demigod tallgeese (or even Leos getting their own flight boosters)

They should have had more missiles mounted on them to go along with the chaingun.

>>22498092
Only the Aries and Taurus grunts seemed to be capable of actual flying. The flight pack for Leos didn't allow high altitude and it was more like a high mobility pack that let them hover, hop, and dash.

>>22498092
My headcannon is that they overcompensated when trying to make suits that wouldn't actively kill pilots after making the Tallgeese too strong and put some severe limitations on the grunt suits. Between safe guards and training the average pilot can barely manage to move and shoot.
Aries would be especially difficult to handle for the average soldier.

In real life air force pilots and astronauts are some of the smartest dudes of the bunch, but in gundam they like portraying pilots as just typical soldiers.

>>22494952
I wonder if we can do this in Breaker 4

>>22499396
In breaker 4 I'm gonna use a Leo as my suits base, and give it overwelming firepower with all sorts of option weapons attatched to it.

>>22505461
So cool.
The Dober Gun is one of the coolest weapons in Gundam, way cooler than bullshit like remote psychic weapons.
The only stupid bit of it is the series not deciding on if its a physical cannon or also a beam cannon.

>>22475537
No amount of vagina would've made Wing less gay.

>>22469597
It ain't really a gundam head unless you squint really hard.

>>22499396
You talking about how Gundam portrays pilots reminds me of Ace Combat Infinity's story. In it, it's stated that with the increasing ease of mass producing fighter planes, official militaries and mercenary groups alike were snapping up any kind of pilot, including flight school dropouts.
With the proliferation of mobile suits in all Gundam settings, perhaps one would wonder if giving every soldier a mobile suit is not unlike throwing crap at a wall and see what sticks before reorganizing the survivors into a team.

>>22507404
All the yellow bullshit added to the tallggeese is so fucking ugly. Not to mention the stupid cockerel crest.

>>22432436
>Dijeh casts off its armor reveal a restored RX 78-2 beneath

>>22475560
Just found out this guy hit a million subs. Good for him.
<s>Wonder if he's going to do a video honoring MH3U and 4U before the servers close down next month.</s>

>>22503506
I would've gotten away with it if weren't for you meddling kids.

>>22406104
Leo are literally just Tallgeese that were made poorly on purpose.

>>22519597
No, they are the Tallgeese but made in a way people can actually pilot it without dying.

>>22406104
>Reminder that THIS is the real Tallgeese. Give it up boys Leofags won.

leos are just a mass produced cheaper tallgeese with everything turned down enough to not risk killing the pilot.

As for the head, we really have no idea what is behind the mono eye. It might not even be an eye or camera. It could be filled with sensors and radar that operate at frequencies that easily penetrate the mask. The mask could be additional armor. It could also be a second set of senors developed by one of the scientists that work better than the sensors that it snaps on top of.

>>22406104
They never hide this fact though? I mean yeah it is goofy that instead of a unique head they put a face mask on it and call it a new mech. Same with the blue one. But it speaks volumes of how powerful the Talgeese is that reducing visibility on it's head doesn't phase it at all and can take out a base by just charging forward with a palm strike.

>>22528211
>Tallgeese [EW] with the excess yellow painted over
I love how basically everyone does this

>>22531572
The excess yellow is gaudy visual cancer slapped onto a perfect design

>>22530096
>instead of a unique head they put a face mask on it and call it a new mech
There's a little bit of cope involved if you reach hard enough
Giant face camera is pretty vulnerable, dunno how stylized head protects it while offering not very impaired vision

>>22532509
I always thought that was just a little hat. That was an eye patch the whole time? Nani the fuck.

>>22530096
The tallgeese is the original

>>22519597
Well yeah. If Tallgeese the parallel stand in for the Rx 78-2, then Leo is the GM. They were doom to fail

>>22471134
Yes. Won't happen tho. Japs prefer UC over AC

>>22538316
The flying Leos do a decent job. In hindsight though that makes them closer to the Talgeese and the jet engines it has.

>>22548943
>>22552651
Its annoying the only "Ace Custom" Oz suits in Wing come from a shitty spinoff manga.

>>22542019
>>22548943
The Red Leo and the Armoured Leo seems like they make sense, in that they are just Leos with extra components added ontop.
But the Girl leo is physically slimmer than the Leos frame, it would have to be a whole new ms unlike the other two which are modifications. Seems off.

>>22406104
I wish the Gundams in Wing weren't so OP. AC has the best looking gunts. Leo, Taurus, Virgo, not to mention UESA and OZ uniforms.

We need another series set in AC that animated and isn't Frozen Teardrop.

>>22554721
The funny thing is that their specs are pretty damn good. They'd be midway suits in UC.

>>22562570
They seem like Zeta-era suits at least, especially since that show loved transforming so much as a gimmick so the Taurus would slot right in.

The Leo is old as shit in AC but its at least better than OYW suits. Has an actual military feel with its lifespan, refurbishments and wide range of equipment.

>>22562585
Honestly I'd love to see a continuation of AC entirely just to see tech advancements. We got such a good taste of it in EW with the Serpent being an advancement of the Leo combined with Heavyarms weaponry.

>>22562585
Sanc Kingdom Taurus's are really cool.

>>22566213
>>22566230
I highly doubt any of the mechs or even the characters are going to look the way they did in the novel.

>>22566235
IIRC the Virgo IV was apparently intentionally meant to look like the old Virgo II model to be deceptive.

Not that it makes any sense since the only manufacturers of the Virgo II were the White Fang who stole it from Romefeller, and their only factory was the Libra battlestation which no longer exists.

>>22566246
Isn't that just Katoki not playing ball? I know the villains have the original Zero and Epyon and considering what the Zero System can do, I wouldn't put it past those units to have information on the Virgo that can be used to build more.

>>22489807
<s>I have not watched Wing, but I believe you</s>

>>22433424
This is not correct. Monoeyed GM types are hallmark trait of Izubuchi-designed GMs such as the Command types and Jegan. Types such as the vanilla GM, II, III, etc. tend to have sensor arrays, dual eyes, etc.

How often does the Leo bazooka actually get used?<br>Its a cool version of a mobile suit bazooka/rocket launcher, but for the Leo its overshadowed heavily by the existance of the Dober Gun.

>>22525673
Milliardo looks so lame without the Zechs mask.

>>22553670
Only show where the drone mechs upstage the generics piloted by humans in looking good.

>>22406104
How do they explain tallgeese being able to turn its head?

>>22582197
it's Wing, don't gotta explain shit

>>22406104
wasn't heero defeated by a leo? why suddenly he could fight 1v1 with the Tallgeese?

>>22607953
There might be official lore reasons somewhere but mostly just because okay?

Heero was mary sue as fuck but that was still his first real combat deployment and he was up against THE ace pilot of the century.

>>22607953
Cannot dodge well when descending from space.

>>22446311
I think so too

>>22447431
Weird post

>>22408197
>most skilled MS pilot around almost couldn't handle it before he just stopped being afraid of death or something(?).
Zechs just got severe brain damage from it and then it didn't matter anymore. Just listen to the utter nonsense he answers to Noin's questions in the hospital tent after piloting it. Brain was totally fried.

>>22432436
For me, it's the high heels and butterfly wings.

>>22432480
The Dijeh is like...one of the most advanced suits of the Zeta era, it's basically already a gundam in terms of specs.

>>22453691
Nta but despite being an arm of the Federation military, 90% of their suits look like something Zeon would use.

>>22629220
that would be me having too many fucking tabs open

>>22629227
Well I hope your stream goes well anon, hope driving a stolen car or playing as those Portal robots makes you feel like you're piloting a Tallgoose

>>22629243
>feel like you're piloting a Tallgoose
why would you wish pain on strangers

>>22629366
The pain will make him stronger and keep better track of his tabs

>>22406716
Not exactly. The gundams are decended from the Wing Zero, which was made by the scientists after they got fed up with Earth and Oz and decided to make something new and original to surpass tallgeese. Related but not descended from.

>>22406860
Not true for the graze. The thing on the front is an entirely seperate camera from the inner one. The inner camera is more powerful but more easily damaged during close combat so when not needed it's covered by the armor to protect it.

>>22617686
He got the girl in the end so that nonsense worked.

>>22432355
the fucking inconsistencies, lmao


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>>22524330
>spin-offs
>hit anime
If only...

>>22524330
so much of a hit they aren't even going to finish the story with an ova. Truly an endless money printer.

>>22524610
Anywhere in the universe, Yui is perfect.

>>22524207
How much longer can this keep going? Last thread didn't even hit 404 before dying. Fewer people are bothering to show up, and there's nothing left to talk about. Is this just an extended wake for the franchise?

>>22524658
dimensions EoS within the next few months, that should result in like 3 active threads.

>>22524656
She isn't even the best girl in her own game, much less the best japanese girl in the franchise, AND she is dumb as a rock.

>>22524688
Don't confuse Yui for Ilfriede.

>>22524658
First time? The strike frontier thread drought led to goons here raiding /a/ who had real threads.

>>22524844
/a/ doesn't have regular threads anymore because the anime broke their spirit

>>22525036
I have some fund muv live memories with /a/.
We watched Total eclipse Anne laughed at the QUALITY together.
People told me about the Schwarzesmarken stuff I'm supposed to know from the novel to make the anime make more sense. Then, funnily enough, I read the VN almost 10 years later and still relied on the info from /a/ threads for the backstory!
MLA anime is mostly memorable because of speedrunning jokes. I was kind of disappointed they didn't cram in the entire story into 24 episodes.

>>22524658
I don't understand why they didn't just keep making Faraway Dawn games. I just beat 1 on normal and got the good muvluv game I always wanted, and I never would have known about it if anon didn't mention it. I can't find any interest about this online and it's really damn good. You guys if you haven't played should check it out -if you press F1 in-game it'll spit out an instruction manual in plain text that you can paste into google translate, then you're good to go. It's genius, they already had all the assets and nailed the mechanics, it must've been made by just a couple people for pocket change, so what happened?
Anyways, advice for new players: play on easy for a challenge, very easy for normal difficulty. A unit's health is also number of soldiers, so a unit at half health does half damage -that also goes for the BETA, and you can leave BETA barely alive to use as shields against Laser Class. Your TSFs have melee defense that varies by craft, terrain, rank, pilot, and facing direction. And make sure to turn on the laser map with ctrl+L

>>22524658
integrade will come soon trust the plan

>>22526572
it's literally not even in development anymore and they've open stated this

>>22526606
Those bastids created new cg's of my wife and cancelled development. Can't believe it!

>>22529415
>stabbing the cake
Stop being such a tryhard edgelord Beatrix. That's the reason your bf didn't commit.

>>22526133
Hey, can you tell me where to get both faraway dawns?

>>22530071
the first is in altered fable, the second is in haruko maniax. Find a torrent for altered fable. I found the english partial patch for it here https://mega.nz/file/rswgnaQQ#s5vYp<wbr>XI_wQslyJmM1syJI1hJbShEtJxTfVVM37ON<wbr>5PA
Haruko Maniax might be harder to find but the second faraway dawn is even harder so the first should be plenty.

>>22529415
Are they still friends in the alternate continuity?

>>22531713
As in compared to the gacha or..?

age stream on now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=958<wbr>K4R4bvD0

>>22529521
The event was a little silly.

>>22533893
>may class rep and I always be horny together

>>22533893
now i need that asset in high quality

>>22533893
looks like she pissed herself lol

>See successful new game release
>Think "this could've been a great Muv-Luv game"

How many times have you thought this?

>>22540479
Unfortunately, all modern VNs are either gachas or hybrid VNRPGs like Persona.

>>22540479
Not much, Muv Luvs was a product of the times, and those times ended 10 years ago

>>22540507
You know what's funny? GunParade March, which is basically an unrecognized twin of muvluv, is also a VNRPG a la Persona but focused on Unlimited-like military slice of life along some combat missions here and there. All ML had to do was "borrow" that template for future releases rather than stay as a pure VN, what with P3's success and the established popularity Alternative had back then. Could have gone that route for TDA with Faraway Dawn gameplay.

>>22541588
Lise, you're literally 3 feet off the ground. Get down from there.

>>22541806
It's her cat genes activating.

>>22541169
>GunParade March
W-why do I have the urge to rape this bitch even before knowing anything about that VN?
It's Kasumi all over again.

>>22544566
muv luv actually shares so many elements with gunparade march that nips have been saying Kouki ripped it off for like literally 20 years, with him denying it every time.
I used to believe him, but after playing the game for myself and seeing muv luv shit itself after the main trilogy again and again, I'm pretty certain he did do it but won't admit it because of his pride. Not like it would be a big deal. It's so bad that he will respond and get into arguments with complete rando no-name twitter users that don't even give a shit about muvluv, because the idea that it's a ripoff is so widespread over there that random people will just say it because they heard it elsewhere.

>>22524330
Why do her nipples poke out so much

>>22546461
OG trilogy had suit nipples, they were removed later in the series and erased from the re-releases and HD remasters.

>>22546598
Remember what they took from you.

Lay it on me. Is there any hope? Things aren't looking better than they did in 2022. Is the kiminozo Kickstart even still around? The link in the OP is a year old

>>22550212
No. Muv Luv is slowly coasting into the grave. When the Gacha dies, the IP will be buried. This thread is part of the long mourning process.

>>22550212
the kiminozo all ages kickstarter got funded because they attached retarded shit like "eat dinner with kouki" and "we will put your name somewhere into the actual game? where? no idea" to it
Then Tororo said they can only develop one game at a time so for the next year+ they're just gonna develop a port of an over 20 year old game

>>22550324
>kiminozo all ages
For whomst?
Well, I do like KGNE quite a lot, more than muv luv in some ways. But it's such a horny story, you can't really separate sex scenes from it. So many iconic scenes are 18+. I was laughing for 1.5 minutes when Daikuuji accidentally snowballs you and then it busy cuts to the credits with the bad end theme playing.

>>22550212
realistically we can hope they translate the remaining material, though right after they could put the ip on ice for the foreseeable future.
ideally it just gets sold to someone competent at a nice discount.

Are there any illustrations of what the jet version of the takemysushi would look like?

>>22550364
when ML dies buy the entire IP for like a dollar problem solved

>>22550465
some companies like EA don't even like selling IPs, they just keep them forever and let them rot.

First time poster here because a friend lent me his anime-streaming account and suggested I watch Muv-luv alternative total eclipse and I liked it, not gonna lie, I was surprised by the nudity and fanservice even If even if it was a little, never cared about ecchi but the only mecha I watched was 3 Gundams (Wing, Zeta and Seed) and read Mazinger Z so I was caught off guard. The story interested me and It's a pity that there wasn't another season, the whole conspiracy of this called "God" and FLR conspiration caught my attention, making me quickly binge the last episodes quickly.

>>22550625
Also I know about the games, I plan to buy next sale, I like VN games

>>22550625
I'd tell you to read the VNs but the franchise has shit itself so much in the last 10 years that all the shit you found interesting remains unresolved to this day

>>22550625
I think what they did with the espers is kind of like a reimagining of Four from zeta or just newtypes in general. Maybe they even did it better in muv luv, because the way zeta retells Four's story three times (Four, Four after they made her retarded and then Rosamia) is kind of like shamelessly trying to get enough content for 50 episodes. There's no similarities with Wing that I could remember and in SEED Kira becomes this savior, much like the protagonist in the original visual novel is a savior that the world was longing for (they have the same voice actor, actually).
I do like Total Eclipse anime, it's pretty fun and it's like the swan song of the lewd because I think they retired ecchi after that. At least the visual novel of the same name, that continues the story, is more of a kiddy friendly flavor. It was my introduction to the franchise too, I watched it when it aired and it was full of QUALITY, but they fixed it on blue rays.

I am just going to not create an account HAHAHAH

>>22550664
the total eclipse anime was the last new mub rub with nipples and was also the last mub rub that was successful. coincidence? I don't think so.

also reminder that build fighters is the one gundam where the newtype girlfriend gets a good ending.

>>22550664
>>22551188
Wait Schwarzesmarken didn't have any lewd? I thought there was something but maybe I'm just wrong

>>22552187
fade to black sex scene just like TE

>>22552187
there was implied rape and I think the original illustrations by carnelian had nipple bumps in the suits, but it didn't have any actual nudity. I think technically the last thing with titties was strike frontier which didn't shut down until 2018. the alternative mango also ran until 2017 apparently and had nudity, but I don't know when the last chapter to show it was.

>>22552548
I don't know why but something about women wearing glasses in anime pisses me off, is kinda like PTSD

Chizuru pays her respects to this dead franchise. F

>>22553278
Completely natural reaction, glasses girls are shit.
Shitzuru a shit.
Perrine a shit.

>>22554623
She's cute, but she's such a narc.

>>22526606
Is this real? I stopped coming to these threads months ago and stopped by to check in.

>>22554640
Jealous that her tits are bigger?

>>22555246
Just pirate the latest lore magazines and check the afterword pages to see literally Kouki write about "If these books sell well enough it will be the first step to getting things moving again"
https://exhentai.org/s/12ce9f25b1/2<wbr>542863-18
They stopped working on the VNs at some point and never started back up. More specfically, Kouki and his co-writers are still writing scripts and getting them approved by Avex, but absolutely nobody is doing any fucking development work to turn them into visual novels. His co-writer started working on the Eurofront script like 2-3 years ago at this point because they were already fully finished with Resonative.

Kouki supposedly ripped off Gunparade march? Do tell, I’m getting very curious now.

>>22554642
I dated a woman like her for some time.. absolutely never again.
Cuteness alone just ain't worth.

>>22555397
>WW2 going on
>Suddenly, a black moon appears and earth is swarmed by silent alien monsters who's sole purpose is to slaughter humans
>Humanity starts fighting them
>50 years later, Eurasia has fallen and the only countries still around are parts of America, Africa and Japan
>At last, the monsters begin their assault on Japan in Kyuushuu
>Japan fucks up the defense and most of the military dies
>Japan decides to turn Kumamoto into a giant military base and line of defense
>Japan decides to start drafting 14-17 year olds into the military even though survival rates are terrible
>Game takes place in military school where you hang out with your classmates, Japan has turned into a rightwing society where they jerk off the idea of modern day "Samurai"
>Humanity has developed mechas as a means of fighting the monsters
>Your main teacher is a crazy bitch with purple hair who constantly has her cleavage out
>Both games bring up the idea of "there are corpses buried under the cherry blossom trees" from that one poem, since depending on your choices all of your classmates will fucking die
>GPM released in 2000, Extra released in 2003
Just go on youtube and click through random scenes of the 2003 anime and you'll quickly see why nips can't shut the fuck up about the similarities
https://youtu.be/6FUC1CoU1vM?si=vxz<wbr>eT6DVR_lwjrVY&t=3539

>>22555397
>>22555493
Ok, i gotta see this for myself, any way i can play gunparade translated?

>>22555901
no, it has never been translated. the Anime has though

>>22555493
Why was ML translated instead of this?

>>22555953
It's a buggy ps1 game that sony thought was so shit they literally gave it 0 PR budget only for it to go viral and sell 200k units
the PS2 was already out when it was released so an overseas release was never going to happen

>>22555940
My experiences with adaptations, this series being an example make me extremely suspicious of the anime, shame it was never translated.

>>22555968
There are other obscure PS1 rpgs that got translated.

>>22555397
>supposedly
He did a gunparade march doujin

Hi. How's your Easter going, /m/uvluv?

I made a post on GameFAQs where I asked people if they want to see videos where I add random music to anime scenes, and I used my new video where I play the ending music from Point Break over the final scene from Perfect Blue as an example. I only got two replies, and they were both varying degrees of "No." So I guess I'm not going to do that any more.

>>22555397
I always thought it was more likely he ripped off All You Need is Kill during the 2004-2006 gap when he was trying to figure out how to explain all the timeline-hopping mechanics and continue Muv-Luv Unlimited (He even mentioned All You Need is Kill on his stream once)

Maybe he ripped off both.

>>22555493
>>At last, the monsters begin their assault on Japan in Kyuushuu
>Kyuushuu

Oh no. :(

1/144 scale Raptor fucking where Kotobukiya

>>22552548
I raped her ass in Muv Luv Duelist.

>>22557995
Thought u were talkin to me for the second.

Anonymous Mogul

Integrate is out!<br>APRILS FOOLS!!! HAHAHAHA

Anonymous

>>22558644
It's funny because I haven't listened to Kouki's podcast in 2 years and I've seemingly missed nothing of worth.

>>22560270
I want to bully her in the bedroom with Beatrix.

Another update on my reread with my blind friends. Sorry for not posting in a while. By some miracle we've actually been pretty consistent in our get-togethers, so we've actually gotten pretty far into Alternative now.
I was actually really nervous about the coup arc, despite it having some of the most sound writing in the entire series. The most boisterous friend of the group has a famously short attention span, and I was sure he'd bring the mood down if the complicated political intrigue bored him. Surprisingly he ended up being pretty silent during the entire ordeal, except for when he expressed his hate for classrep whenever she'd push Takeru away. I do think he overall kind of didn't care much about the finer details though, so it seemed to me like he didn't enjoy the arc as much as I'd hoped. The others seemed pretty invested though. When Yuuhi was doing her whole self sacrifice speech, one of them even commented on the fact that her demeanor and voice actress made her seem like "a god, or deity" more than a human. This lead to them discussing the portrayal of nobility in fiction, which eventually concluded with them recognizing Yuuhi as one of the best portrayals of an emperor figure ever. Needless to say I was extatic that they were finally getting how great these characters can be.
Cont

>>22561401
At this point in the series my friends were raring to see some actual combat. And I was really nervous about the fact that the coup arc kinda blue balls you at that point. My boisterous friend hates the chimera ant arc in HXH for having "no real fights", so I was once again nervous he'd not enjoy himself. Once again it went well, but I don't think they liked it quite as much as I did on my first read. I was fanboying tsukuyomi a lot during the arc, and they weren't really feeling her a lot for example. Neither did they really bite into the whole alternate pre-ww2 japan mentality(yet, we do end up having some intense discourse about it later down the line).
The Kasumi reveal made the boys realize they REALLY like Kasumi as a character. "If she dies, I will literally ragequit" was said just after her waking Takeru up one morning.
The returning to the extraverse twist came completely out of left field for them. Every single one of them was really surprised when the layerhopping machine was introduced. Sadly I think the early parts of this arc was one of the worst recieved parts of the whole bunch. There is a shitload of voiced Takeru flashbacks that really fuck with the pacing. On my first 2 readthroughs this didnt bother me at all, as i basically just skimmed through them without listening to the VA on my own. On auto this felt like a pretty big issue, though. A sentiment that was echoed by my friends. It seemed like my friends were getting really impatient with the story here. They just wanted to get "on to the epic part". Thank god that this part is really heavy on the Yuuko exposition scenes. Excluding Meiya and Sumika she is easily their favorite character.
The XM3 mock battle arc had my friends raring to go again. They really wanted to finally see Takeru tearing it up in his TSF.
cont

>>22561464
That's why they were laughing out loud when Takeru completely loses it as the Beta appear. They were fully expecting him to have become this crazy badass in battle at this point. The fact that we were stifling our laughter may be one of the downsides to groupreading like this, as I felt like it undermined the situation a little, but the gravitas came through all the while.
The chomp is by far my highlight of this little experiment. The discord channel was completely silent for the longest time since it's inception. We normally shoot in comments here and there, little "oohs" and "aahs" when something exciting happens, but in this scene it was as if the world had stopped. When the boys finally came to their senses they praised the shit out of the scene, and even managed to draw paralells to AOT. Our first point of major discourse comes when Takeru is getting "consoled" by Meiya after Marimo's death. Our boisterous friend threw a fit at Meiya for completely botchering the situation(which funnily completely mirrored Takeru's comments to her). And his comments were completely justified, as telling someone in a situation like that to just "suppress, and move past it" is a pretty dangerous thing. The discourse came of us telling him it was perfectly in character for pretty much anyone who'd grown up in the BETA-verse. And especially Meiya, who is pretty much the embodiment of the traditional Japanese(pre ww2) wartime mindset. He disagreed pretty heavily, and cited military history as being pretty "open emotionally" when it came to soldiers being affected by deaths. We ended up discussing this for about an hour, not really coming to a conclusion.
Cont some time later

>>22561510
Meiya being who she is is not necessarily historical in nature and is owed more to her background and "love nucleus" stuff.

>>22561464
>My boisterous friend hates the chimera ant arc in HXH for having "no real fights"

Do you think the vaginas on the Soldier class are for canning people? Or is it some function of the reactor?

>>22561401
>I was actually really nervous about the coup arc
If you're not a US citizen, the anti-Americanism of this arc won't bother you. ...Seriously, as far as I can tell, the Sagiri mutiny only infuriates the Yankees, because Washington is presented in a bad way there.

>Yuuhi as one of the best portrayals of an emperor figure ever.
Yeah, it’s no wonder that “For the Crown and the Kingdom!” sounds more inspiring than “For democracy!” After all, the idea of “Noblesse Obliges” is backed by thousands of years of human history, and republicanism is just an anomaly in the development of civilization.

>>22561464
>The Kasumi reveal made the boys realize they REALLY like Kasumi as a character.
Kasumi, by the way, is Russian - are they not going to “cancel” her because of Ukraine?

>>22561510
>who is pretty much the embodiment of the traditional Japanese(pre ww2) wartime mindset
It’s more likely just a rejection of any other point of view, with the exception of your own. It is also aggravated by a disdainful attitude towards foreign culture as “barbaric”...

>be author
>post brutal chapter with good lewds and decent action
>me the reader hopes the story FINALLY gets going with more like this
>next chapter, no lewds and Takeru gets taken down like a faggot
>except sike, he can brainwash people now for some reason
>rather than turn the enemy into allies he convinces them to remain as enemies
>Takeru faints from bloodloss, didn't accomplish shit
>author apologizes for the prior chapter and won't post lewds or good action anymore
>also the author "no good vibes here either lol"

BRUH WTF Who is this story even for?! For a second I thought there was a sick twist coming, I was so expecting Takeru to bust in and save the day or to get something going with the Tsukuyomi in the last part but then the brainwashing came from nowhere and all to make them get against him? And then the apologies. jfc man just write what you want worst thing is the lewds went sooo hard too.

>>22565497
The writer has a vision in their head only they can see, and they'll keep banging their head against a brick wall to realize it until they give up and try yet again. At this point all you can do is let their autism drive then to write another million words that goes nowhere and then stops before anything good happens. The English Muv Luv fanfic sphere is a barren wasteland with no great standout works that I know of, not that unlike the English Muv Luv fandom as a whole. Japan gets Wei Luxin writing fanfics for them, what do we get?

>>22565611
That's the thing, stuff would have gone down HARD if Takeru did literally anything except mindwash both Tsukuyomi to be his mortal enemies for reasons. Between the background yuri and nice jokes here and there I had hope and the lewds hit hard since no one expects the cast getting SA'ed but I was so ready for Takeru to take that bitch up on the offer, that fight was peak blueballing to end like that. I can't see how this can go on, Takeru is literally bleeding away now. I'd go and comment something but the autist takes everything badly. Even if it's NTR, which it is no matter what excuses the author puts up, just get to a fucking ending for once. I don't even mind another million words if they lead somewhere.

>>22565497
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

I want to learn Japanese to read untranslated VNs, does anyone have any recommendations on how to go about this?

>>22566252
best bet would be to find any place that does classes in Jap but if you don't wanna try doing self study that's my best guess

>>22566265
Self study is my only option actually since I’m in grad school.

>>22566252
The Daily Japanese Thread on /jp/

>>22566292
don't stick around the DJT thread, it's filled to the brim with people that just grind anki for literal decades and jerk each other off about knowing ancient kanji that haven't been in use for 300 years, and worship e-celebs. Then they cry about not knowing the language after all the time they have invested. Get their resource links and never look back

>>22566252
learn your kana, i used the flashcards on realkana.com
after that pickup a grammar textbook and start doing anki flashcards on a japanese core 2k deck daily

>>22566200
I'm being a seething fag over a fanfic that I keep going back to like a bitch.

>>22566687
There are glimpses of something more in that dude's work, and you gotta admire the drive to write a million words two or three times over in search of that unattainable perfect vision. He's like the Mike Oldfield of Muv Luv fanfic writers, except it ain't Tubular Bells he's making.

>>22564748
It's for babymaking sex with the BETA

Konachan.com - 8013 muv-luv muv-luv_alternative yashiro_kasumi.jpg

>>22566924
I just want the guy to stick to something, whatever these 'visions' or 'glimpses' are. No, he ain't making Tubular Bells or anything remotely close in quality but it fucking blows that whenever there's a decent chapter and people whine about it he steps back and apologizes. I honestly don't see anything to admire there, would rather him trust in this vision and just go off the deep end like the story clearly hints at all the time but never delivers on. Again, I'm just seething like a fag that doesn't wanna move on from this franchise just yet.

>>22566252
Read Tae Kim's guide, then go through all the kanji on kanjidamage, then read tae kim's guide again, that's what worked for me. Then I started to manually add any new kanji I encounter to a separate deck because kanjidamage only has around 1750. But you'll have a framework to do it if you learn all the building blocks from KD.

any updates on the sequel? axed? shelved? dev hell?

>>22566252
The most important thing to do if you want to learn japanese is to read https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/

>>22569010
afaik dev hell but possibly the other 2

>>22569010
still waiting to hear about their last gacha attempt at making money
if it was enough of a success <s>pfff</s> maybe we will get something?

So no April fools joke this year from their official page?

Muv Luv definitely peaked in 2013/14 when TE VN and Chronicles came out. Schwarzesmarken was the last decent thing. Immortals wasted all their money and the 2021/22 anime adaptation was half-assed.

If they had put money on a new VN sequel it would have worked. But they are afraid of VN piracy so gacha is the main source of income for most VN companies.

Back in 2013, I was willing and paid 10000 jpy each for many of the rare Volks figures.

>>22570413
I meant Project Mikhail wasted all their money. Basically the Tokyo 2020 olympics for them.

>>22569010
When the gacha failed they said in a livestream development on the VNs has stopped in all aspects other than Kouki writing random shit because they need to focus on relaunching the gacha. The Anchor CEO also got fired and replaced.
When the gacha relaunched there was an online stockholder meeting at Avex where Avex said the future of new muv luv games depends on how well the gacha sells. Kouki then tweeted about this and told everyone to support the game if they want the VNs to come out
After the Kiminozo kickstarter got funded Tororo said that with Anchor in its current state, they can only develop one game at a time, and that the Kiminozo port would now occupy this slot for a year or so.

They're literally not doing anything at all, that's why there are zero new trailers or images. The gacha sales are only okay if the plan was to make a low budget kusoge for the fans and nobody else, but I very much doubt that since the company running is turns out to be in massive financial trouble.

>>22570970
So basically, they are not making enough money to release anything new like Resonative and Integrate, but just profit enough to keep this franchise going by slowly releasing translations, porting old games, and doing the bare minimum every year.

>>22569371
Hello there. Which PS1 menu screen art are you supposed to be?

>>22571022
Now ask yourself what happens when they run out of things to port (assuming Avex doesn't shut them down before that)
they don't even have a sister company releasing short low budget VNs or anything. They've pretty much done fucking nothing for 8 years straight

>>22571118
There's a fair backlog. SM1 and 2 are untouched, as is War Ensemble, Last Divers, they could even spin Owarinaki as an entry if they get desperate.

There's plenty of shitty Muv Luv fanfics out there, but here's a somewhat decent one.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/5<wbr>5070041

>>22570413
>Schwarzesmarken was the last decent thing.
It was bad, but at least it was a real vn.

>>22571114
The one you can't read in Japanese

why is being a fan of this series so painful<br>i just want to finish TDA so I can move on from this series... but there's still no news.

>>22572801
I just wanted to share some nice titties man

man I was bored fall these years rom waiting that I actually unearthed all of Leymei's unscanned doujins that ain't on the panda

>>22576014
The fanbase is full of retards that enable actual grifters.

>>22576096
honestly the facf that immortals/dimensions pulled new OCs out their ass instead of bringing the strike frontier ones back is just baffling to me. We're just going to throw a new set of characters into the trashcan every gacha attempt?

>>22576101
Don't worry, this'll probably be the last one.

>>22576384
just meiya stuff.
he has a lot of it
kinda wish he did more Mana stuff too
oh well, RIP.

>>22576397
Leymei drew really good TSFs, this Phantom looks amazing. Poor bugger died too young, they should have been able to make a full manga series like Asuza Maxima did with the Alt Manga. It would have looked amazing.

>>22576397
Ever going to upload it to Sad Panda?

>>22578293
NTA but I have the same doujin scanned and almost cleaned.

>>22578293
Actually? Good idea. I don't want to lose it.

>>22578370
>>22578372
Not this one, actually. Which one is this?

Things I've done in the time since I bought a PS5 solely to play Stellar Blade:

- Wrote a Stellar Blade fanfic, which opens up with a quote rambling about Metroid and Muv-Luv
- Added a Stellar Blade-inspired alternate title to one of the chapters in "Tetris Maintenance," a Mai Otome fanfic with certain familiar stylistic choices
- Added some notes about Stellar Blade's seamless blending of design styles to "Toasted Mayonnaise," a Mai Otome fanfic that's actually a porno parody of Muv-Luv

>>22578293
I imagine there must be a version of the cadet suit where you could fully see the nipples that existed at some stage in development before age thought "no this is too much even for eroge" and dialed it back.

Watching the JAL 123 crash cockpit voice recording on youtube and something about it from the map color scheme to the heavily accented English to the alarms just brought MLA sensations flooding back, it's uncanny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfh<wbr>9-ogUgSQ

So if we never get a proper sequel who's gonna be the first to post their AI-made fanfic here?

>>22585396
We'd never be that desperate.
...r-right?

Has anyone got the Yoroi Sakon Deez Nuts image anywhere? Need it for someone who's just about to reach that part of the VN.

>>22585396
I am a mercenary in the Muv-Luv universe with extraordinary skills and wit. A former eishi of an undisclosed nation, I happen to posses exclusive top secret knowledge on how to defeat the BETA once and for all and wipe them off the face of the planet. I have demonstrated only but a fraction of my indispensable secret knowledge to very powerful world leaders and the Russians have taken a great interest in me. They cut a deal under the table with me that if I gave them this knowledge on how to defeat the BETA, they would give me anything I wanted - land, money, power. I asked for only one thing. So they gave me Latrova as a 24/7 live onahole cum toilet sex slave.

>>22588669
Hot. With a ring gag, I hope.

>>22588669
So then I took the whore and left them hanging. haha! Devilish!

https://www.project-mikhail.com/en/<wbr>news/post/?p=504
As of this maintenance, Project MIKHAIL will conclude its early access period. We appreciate your continued support of Project MIKHAIL.
kek

Instead of making whatever project mikhail was they should have struck a deal with d3publisher and let Sandlot make a muv-luv game. It would look like shit but it would at least be fun.

>>22593092
>grim and grit subverted by B-movie jank and TSFs getting ragdolled across the maps faster than they boost
I'd fund it

being suffocated to death by stella's giant stellas

>>22595943
You have to at least post some Stella titties. Also Tarisa's birthday.

>chobi birthday
nice
>12 years since TE anime
Fuck. How time flies.
>9 years since the Kickstarter
FUCK.

>>22596434
in 2 years âge will not have released a visual novel for 10 years.

should I buy, put a generic steam crack, refund and upload it here as a final fuck you to Age? judging from the news they're getting rid of online only right?

>>22600357
it's literally not even worth playing

>>22600438
holy fucking kek why are there badly animated vtubers here. Anyway the crack works but i have no idea where to upload it (9 gb)
Movement is janky as fuck, I don't know if I'm shooting the gun or not because the sound mixing is fucked. A lot of voice acting surprisingly? I'm getting FPS hits even though the Gundam games on PS2 looks better than this

5years in the making, but I finally got my friend to commit to Muv-Luv, and we've just started Alternative. Hilarious to think he thinks Kasumi is a time-looper too because she knew about the game guy

>>22600494
The Vtubers are apparently characters from Kaseki no Uta, one of Age's earliest games.

>>22601023
Glad it worked out for you. One of my friends randomly brings it up and tries to assure me that he'll read it "soon" even though I gave a long time ago and haven't mentioned it since at least 2021.

How long has it been since Intergate’s announcement?

>>22602906
By getting really, really constipated and then having an enema.

>>22604740
Yes, but not as much as Takeru

I haven't been on any MuvLuv threads since SM finished. What's with this Halcon guy?

>>22605222
Some faggot artist
>>22604740
How does wanting a boy make you transphobic? This looks like something you'd find on Twitter from people who hate Muv-Luv

>>22601023
jesus we just did the 12/5 incident in 1 sitting, I remember it feeling like it was 3hours is, but jesus it's closer to 6

>>22550225
>tfw you were alive to witness the golden age of Japanese VNs and also the decline

new dimensions event is bunny suits.<br>what a joke of a game

>>22605222
He's a guy who makes some good H content, not sure what that one dudes issue with him is

>>22605995
I would have less of an issue with random gag content if it wasn't locked behind jewish gacha.

>>22606480
Same reason people don't like Otoo, dumbass.

friends about to start the XM3 trials and I get to have a front seat to the 991

>>22606943
Astonishing response, really.

What episodes of the anime can I skip if I don’t care about the pilots and just want to see mechs fighting the monsters

>>22607517
It's not gay if it's a russian

Chizuru's ending in Extra made me want a small, naggy wife to mating press.

Why is this bitch wearing her glasses in the shower

Just finished Kino-Luv alternative, I want more.

>>22611014
with mechas the closest I've found is Baldr Sky
without them its Chusingura46+1

is that old lady from Jam project still a fan

I love how unapologetic Muv-Luv is at info-dumping in briefings, like, listening to Isumi ramble on about BETAs for an hour is just great

>>22611917
fr, why did they need to caution tape the fubuki

>>22611917
I hate this whiny faggot so much its unreal
I would've done a better job
>>22612251
in a still not secure warzone no less

>>22611470
>dun dudun dududun
>dun dudun dududun
>dun dudun dududun
>dun dudun dududun

>>22612319
Well..
BS has a multiverse and it features mechas.. I think the similarities end there. Did not like the ending but I had more fun than expected with the gameplay.
Chusingura is the one that comes closer to MLU/A in spirit. However it's a story about samurai in an older period which I forgot the name. Despite at first looking like a cheap eroge it does go in depth in telling the story of the real world event which uses as foundation and driving narrative, by the end you will know a lot about everything that happened. I recommend just trusting (Me) here and going blind on this one, you can even get the first chapter for free on steam to see if it strikes your fancy.
In both games I found the MC to be better than takeru and in both as the game progresses the routes start getting more and more different than the previous. Both vns are long as fuck. Engrish release of BS has patch for sexo but Chusingura don't.

>>22612394
It's been about 3 years since I read it but I always felt like baldr sky was intentionally somewhat similar to Muv-Luv so that the later twist would be more effective.
<s>Like how you're sort of lead to believe that Kuu has a overarching multiversal role sort of similar to how Sumika is a causality conductor, by appearing over the routes and being clearly aware of the other routes. Also Sora isn't present (dead) by the start of the story like Sumika (brained) in MLU/MLA. This then leads into twist that Kou was really the one who died flipping expectations on it's head. It also uses the kinetic VN format as a part or the storytelling in a way very similar to MLU, although this is possible more of a stetch. It's also pretty funny how you can do a similar comparison with other Muv-Luv-inspired works like Attack On Titan. Ymir=Sumika, paths=multiverse, royalty as part of main character's group at the beginning, MC eventually joins a crew of elite jobbers post-training, coup, ackermans=espers. It's too bad Isayama didn't copy having a decent ending.</s>

>>22533893
her right shoe (our left) and that lacrosse stick are fucked

Is there anything for a fan of the VN in the anime, will I get any satisfaction out of the battle at least, because I know there is no way to condense 100hrs of emotions into 12episodes

shame, re-reading Alt for the Umpteenth with my friend and we just finished Sado-arc, and I'm feeling that same pain deep in my chest like I always do knowing whats ahead. Wanted something to distract me from that

>>22611470
I see people complaining about those scenes and it just makes me think their attention span is trash because I was completely immersed during them, it didn't even feel like an hour to me.
>>22614567
You know love is blind because at first I thought she looked good here, until I did a retake and yeah they really did my waifu dirty here.

>>22611917
I had this as my wallpaper for a while but it made my room have some serious bad mojo so I took it off.

>>22615576
TSF animations, OST and I personally enjoyed the anime original scenes (the entire first episode being one for example). Seeing the fall of Sadogashima and Komaki's point of view on various events was great. Izumi being an "uncharacteristically" harsh commander on the noobs during the coup arc was a side of her that was nice to see. (No noobs alive in the Valkyries by the time we meet her in the VN.) I wish they did more of that. Expanding the setting and POVs. I don't know why they ever thought they could succeed in adapting ONLY alternative in 2-3 seasons while skipping extra and unlimited entirely. Maybe Kouki finally gave up and decided to at least get something off his bucket list.

>>22616975
Aside from the first episode, most or all of the new scenes were from the manga (which the anime actually adapted, not the VN).

Are chizurufags overrepresented now? I swear I didn't hear much about her before but now she seems to have a cult following.

>>22617897
Oh yeah I forgot there was a manga as well
>>22617959
She's always had a loyal fanbase here, but certainly not the biggest of the original cast. Maybe everyone else is just gone and only the chizurufags are still around, unable to let go.

Reaching the end of my blind Alternative playthrough right now. I'm growing increasingly concerned that there won't be a Mrs. Kyouzuka h scene. Also, the pivot to mind break breast expansion tentacle rape clit fucking during 00mika's confession made me die laughing. Kind of ruined some of the drama desu. Great set of stories, though. Can't believe people actually skip Extra and go straight to the others.

>>22618877
That's why the family friendly version is the best. The way the scene was done felt like they truly expected you to jack off to Takeru getting tentacle NTR'd (hey maybe some did get their rocks off, I'm not gonna judge) but it felt so out of place.

>>22619120
>The way the scene was done felt like they truly expected you to jack off
I did!

>>22619120
How the family friendly version handles the porn? The scene is still implied but simply skipped?
Planning to read the trilogy with my online friend but not sure I want the porn interruptions, at least not in a duo reading like this.

>>22619691
The scene still happens but there's none of the NSFW CG's, they only kept the relatively tame ones. It's a more tasteful depiction of sexual violence that's for sure and feels more streamlined with the overall vibe of the VN.
As someone that played this version for my first blind playthrough, I think it had the intended "WTF but still sad" effect without breaking my suspension of disbelief.

Just finished alternative with my friend, and I have the same pit in my stomach as always.<br>Like, I know nothing will ever be comparable to alternative, because nothing will ever be as long winded and drawn out as Alternative.

>>22620819
The delicious slowburn is the greatest thing about Muv-Luv, it wouldn't work at all if it was just one game.

>>22621136
it's odd that, if you broke muv-luv down in 23minute episodes, it'd be around 200ish, yet carries significantly more emotional weight then any piece of shounen shit

>>22621089
Top is Rika, bottom is Suzuha I assume, who's the middle one?

>>22621350
That's because visual novels don't get milked dry by streching out arcs longer that they need to be or adding retarded filler, or giving a character plot armor just because they are currently popular. Attack on Titan for example, tried to be Muv-Luv so hard but failed spectacularly at the ending when it tried to please everyone and make sure it could still make money through merch at the same time.
Of course, goycattle don't care if the overarching story is good, only if the characters they identify with come out looking good, so it all works out for them.

>>22622186
yeah avengers-type endings make the goyim clap like seals every time. look at how popular umineko is in the west when half of its last chapter was a freaking EPIC avengers team up battle with zero meaning or substance

>>22621089
>Higurashi takes place in 1983
>Schwarzesmarken takes place in 1983
Was it a reference?

>>22620819
>>22621136
Gunparade March did it fine.

>>22621350
That doesn't work.
>Extra/Unlimited in 13 episodes
>Alternative in 26
That's much better.

>>22623735
meh, it was just alright imo.

>>22623741
At minimum, extra/unlim could probably be covered in 2 cours, with events to be covered from extra being selectively chosen to give all the characters some time in the spotlight. Alternative would probably need at least 4 to cover the content but probably wouldn't break down nicely if it was strictly fit into 12 episode segments with some climax expected at the end of each. We saw the anime speedrun the lead up to the coup but maybe something like that would be passable if the exposition was left to Unlimited as it originally was.

>>22624644
>>At minimum, extra/unlim could probably be covered in 2 cours,
LOL, no.
6 episodes for Extra focusing on Sumika, 6 for Unlimited focusing on Meiya.

>>22624725
your lore dumps and exposition? intro, initial dumps + betaverse squad intro, ccse, tama + hsst, tsf training, volcano, and christmas + ending are all at least an episode each and even then they'd have to be speedran to fit that. only focusing on one or the other would sideline the rest of the squad and would result in the end product having the same reception as the anime from this timeline. 12 each or some split like 10/14 would be enough to cover the higher character moments for the extraverse side (ie. room for at least an episode dedicated to each side character, as well as a sumika end), all the important parts of introducing the betaverse and the key points that takeru changes in the alt timeline, as well as each of the unlimited arcs that focuses on the squad members. Unlimited is far shorter than extra but it has more content that is integral to alternative.

>>22624795
>your lore dumps and exposition?
Worthless. Play the VN for that, tardo.

>>22624725
nah have 200 episodes covering everything in intrinsic detail down to a t

they can't even finish alternative and you guys are coping about fictional adaptions lmao

I never played Muv Luv but my favorite Gundam is SEED and I heard this was familiar to it. Would that be right?

Tbh, you don't really have to cover much of Extra. You can easily stir it into 6 episodes with a original take on it. Unlimited would definitely need 12 episodes though.

Alternative at 36 episodes would be good for it. I'm going to be honest, the mumble jumble infodump isn't really required in an anime adaptation.

>>22626043
no because seed is shit and muv-luv is good. are you from SEA?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrs<wbr>GpDUeLuE

>300k views video about the flop gacha that's actually a subtle bait to get people to know more about the OG trilogy
kinda based

Haven't been following much since Teito Moyu released and following the Kiminozo crowdfund a bit. As there been any movement or info about anything going on whether translation, new titles, etc? I know the Switch versions recently released but is there anything else? Have there been any updates on Kiminozo?

>water
>potatoes
>sausage
Do Germans really?

>>22626937
Lise is a whore, ten billion stds

>>22626917
There are no news about anything

All of the BETA simulate rather well, except the fort class which are stupid. I feel like the Faraway Dawn devs were trying to make a point with them; just free XP in an otherwise brutal game. They're just too damn big despite lacking a ranged weapon. If they were standing on a hill in Sadogashima A TSF would be able to shoot them from the mainland while standing at sea level. The fort class has the benefit of scene transitions most of the time which allow it to appear suddenly, but realistically you'd be aware of the position of every fort class on your landmass just eyeballing it, and they'd never get close enough to accomplish anything -there's a huge gap between when all your firepower would be concentrated on the forts to when the first other BETA strain would crest the horizon, to the point even walking up out of the ocean onto the beach wouldn't be enough and you'd just see their fugly heads bobbing around in the sea before a BETA army reached you.
The games do a good job simulating the benefits of both TSFs and tanks in terms of height, with TSFs prioritizing targets behind the frontline and shooting around corners, and tanks being better against laser class from their low profile. The terrain matters a lot and it's terrifying to see the BETA make flatlands toward you and leave no cover for TSFs, but the forts are so huge you can shoot them even if they're behind multiple highrise buildings.
It's kinda funny, if the forts all had lasers there'd be no viable weapon to use against them and nowhere to hide, so you can really see the BETA going easy on us.

>>22626937
Meat and a starch is a staple meal across the world.

>>22626793
Anchor got off lucky too because his research was very lacking so he didn't even bring up the worst shit.

Lise is a cutie, ten billion blue ribbons

I need to do impregnation sex with raptor-chan

>>22626793
Sad to see the gacha drama is the main source of attention for this series other than the terrible anime in recent years.

Happy birthday and happy mothers day to Latrova!

Lise is a woman who could have been like a mother to me.

Someone is working on finishing the fan translation for altered fable https://vndb.org/r122598

What's the difference between blue ribbons Lise and red ribbons Lise?

>>22628873
One is actually Arthur while the other is Nero but sometimes Mordred

>>22628339
Anon when will you learn that Lise is a stupid Stasi whore dog

>>22628647
Is it even worth it? They admit to primarily using chatGPT

>>22627070
To be fair, isn't that the point of the Fort-class? Big, dumb targets that draw the attention of enemy forces for the smaller strains? After all, one shot spent trying to kill a Fort-class is one not spent shooting the eye of a Laser or Heavy Laser.

>>22610945
Chizuru without her glasses is like Meiya without her hair vents

>>22626963
lise is pure and i have six million children with her

dimensions is heading for a new record low month. Kinda telling that the game only makes money when there's a collab.

Just finished TE, WTF was his plan at the end? Run away with Cryska where to? Did he subject her to suffer feeling her body rot apart just so he could fuck her once? After that, did he even know he would get picked up by Latrova or was he just hoping he wouldn't be hunted down and skinned alive by the CIA and KGB after stealing 2 state secrets of 2 different nuclear powers? Just how much influence did Latrova have anyway not to let Sandek or any other Soviet Politician grab his ass and haul him into prison? Did he fuck Fikatsia at least once?

>>22632224
Freedom loving Americans don't let themselves get tied down by bullshit like that and just do what they want

>>22627070
>so you can really see the BETA going easy on us.
Well, they are not "going easy" the admin just doesn't understand what the big deal is. They are mining machine templates being repurposed to rebuff and stop humanity's aggression at this stage and once it is go time the Beta stop fucking around and the fort class comes back as a big fucking artillery battery.

>>22632224
if you wanna believe strike frontier he fucked Latrova and Nastassja

>>22632265
but do they do what they need?

>>22632568
Depends on equipment, Takeru stomps no matter what if he is in the Xb-70

>>22631728
I guess that makes sense if they're a breakthrough unit, but the BETA are special in they ignore logistics so they can mass as many troops in one area as they want. I guess it's pointless to consider when they probably use that unit composition because it's effective for digging.
>>22632568
If it's a Death Battle it'll come down to some stupid bullshit factoid about who's timetravel is on a higher power level, or the Moh scale 15 shit. Takeru's basically Levi but he never sprains his ankle.

>>22633210
Based. Truly the Russian Fucker

>>22635559
One time Kouki went on a whole rant about how he doesn't consider strike frontier part of his multiverse because he just let the other âge guys do whatever they wanted, which is probably one of the silliest things I've seen a creative trying to shill his IP say.

>>22635592
Kouki is a melting pot of halfbaked ideas, none of them more put together than SF was so it's all on the same level to me

>>22524207
If the USA didn't engage in their cowboy bullshit and took into account the combat experience of countries fighting BETA...

>>22635887
Guns > Sword
Cry about it Tojo

>>22636701
Because it only consists of two types of people.
>Fans that have grown disillusioned with the franchise due to the last 10 fucking years
>Fans that love it so much they will even defend literal scams

>>22637977
>top tsun
>smelly french womanlet
>germ gore enthusiast
>sagiri's used goods
gimme Marimo or give me death!

>>22638107
>smelly french womanlet
Could be worse. Could be Ilfr*ede.


Mecha design and drawthread

I‘d be interested to know if there are any drawfags on /m/ that designed their own Mecha, or variations of existing mecha.

>>22591926
I like this fashion designer style sketch with mechs

>>22591421
This is fucking awesome, keep posting.

up you go<br>i'd contribute something but it's finals season for uni

>>22595088
I'll post an old doodle.
Not many /m/ drawfags around these days.

Untitled Battleship Napoleon-Roma-Blue MaxZABCDEFG.png

>>22596255
the texturing on your stuff is always really nice, damn.

Posted it on /m/sv last thread but this is my variant of the Leopard Gundam

my 2nd ever oil painting <br>This is a villain I made for my Dungeons and dragons campaign his name is Sir Scold he is a mix of sir Didymus from Jim Henson labyrinth and Char

Replacing your gynoid's lower half for a half ton combat chassis
>>22600246
>>22599356
>>22592533
thanks fellas

>>22601268
damn
the work so far looked really good sorry about the corruption
>>22602204
the head design you made works really well for this

I want to try my hand at designing my own original mechs. What are your artistic processes like? Do you guys gravitate towards a certain mech/series/designer for inspiration?

>>22604009
Glad you’re back drawing, leaker bro

>>22604865
feels really organic without looking too fleshy
what made you go with the sweater collar under the head, though? it strikes me as really strange.

>>22604865
looks kinda like the gaplant

>>22604067
i'm a noob, but i generally just start with the skeleton and work outwards, or with the silhouette and work inwards
for skeletons i try to look at either the human skeleton for bipedal mecha with maybe goat or chicken leg skeletons for different leg types
picrel is based on a jerboa
as for inspiration i really like a number of nagano's designs, and the weirder gundam ones

here's a more human mecha design that i think is decent, i wish i could draw better though

sorry to be spamming, here's the last one for now<br>i really dislike the upper body and head for this but i do think the lower body looks interesting so i might do something with it in another design

ok i lied this is the last one
i guess i sort of draw the armour over one side and the inner frame as a basis
still not great at perspectives other than straight on, and then i have a hard time distinguishing between what's overkill on detail vs just necessary definition of shapes

i tried starting another idea
i think the head and shoulders are my favorite bit for this, maybe i could reuse it for another design later or something
what are other ppl drawing

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>>22611556
>>22611558
those look pretty cool, reminds me of battleship yamato

>>22611926
yea, that's my main inspiration.

Good to see the thread coming along, I‘m pleased to see so many cool mechs.
Here’s another one of mine. I‘m trying to give my mecha a more androgynous look without slipping into full on gynoid territory. Making the armor on the torso lighter was one thing, I’m trying to cone up with good ways to give extra armor to the thighs to make them look thicker.

>>22591926
Mecha really are kind of fashionable, any image with a human subject just looks cooler with a random mecha placed next to them.

>>22600241
Cool design. Kind of makes me want a Star Fox with humanoid mecha.

>>22601268
Love the “horn” sticking out of the chest, thats so cool.

>>22604901
>>22604904
>>22611500
Are these supposed to be giant or human sized? The exposed wires and skeletal structure makes them seem a little frail, like they’re foot troopers.

>>22613913
The upward facing wings and propellers are a cool concept.

>>22613913
you have a really nice eye for how to shape aircraft
>>22614926
>The upward facing wings and propellers are a cool concept.
nta but it's not super uncommon

>>22614943
Didn’t know, cool plane fact. Maybe I‘ll reference those if I ever draw some planes.

>>22614926
later than human sized
it’s more the inner frame and skeleton that i’ve drawn, without the armor that would protect it
hence why it’s so frail looking. i just find that easier, when i try drawing armor first i feel like it looks weird

>>22614943
>you have a really nice eye for how to shape aircraft
ty

I went to England for a week but didn’t draw any robots

>>22619418
goo job surviving bloodborneland anon
building art looks well-done

>>22619418
>I went to England for a week
hoping for your speedy recovery

>>22591383
Hello, i see this thread and i wish to share some draws of mine.

I am very amateur and mostly a /co/ guy, but time to time i like to lurk here.

>keep practicing
>everything still looks crap
does it ever get better

>>22627928
>>22622441
looks nice, reminds me of 70s scifi

>>22624217
super cool!

>>22627798
your art reminds me of that bug queen from my life as a teenage robot, interesting style

>>22621403
cute!

>>22629388
you need to aim to practice specific principles. get yourself a 12" art mannequin or even any toys and figures you have on-hand, and practice drawing their poses. i find that tetsujin 28 is really just a fat version of an art mannequin, so it works as a really nice starter subject that's easy to add additional mechanical detail onto for experimentation.

>>22629689
that’s good advice, ty
i’ve already tried drawing a couple gunpla, it just makes my head hurt lol
trying to get proportions and perspective right feels really hard, but that probably just means i need more practice

I AM GOING TO DO A OIL PAINTING OF RING OF RED THE PS2 GAME

>>22630664
also technically not M but i am going to do a oil painting of a rocket knight

>>22630322
Don't bother with the traditional wooden art mannequin, they're very outdated with shitty articulation issues. You're better off with figmas from the classical art or posing series if you have the $$$ for it.

>>22632206
why the hypersexual pilot
who wears heels to pilot a mech
why wouldn’t she wear a bra, especially with such a large chest
why does the canopy show the entire body of the pilot when that doesn’t really increase visibility that much
the skimpy clothes might make sense if it were in a hot environment, but normally you’d want to wear something a little more substantial. you don’t really see forklift operators wearing swimsuits after all

>>22629388
>>22630322
How are you / what are you practicing? Sometimes the exercises or things you're practicing matter just as much as how many hours you're putting into it.

Some things to consider:
>Are you comfortable with drawing more basic forms (ie. cubes, cylinders, ellipses etc.) in perspective?
>Are you confident in your ability to control line thickness and direction when drawing?
>Do you want to design your own mechs, or make mostly fanart?
>What are your goals in drawing? Do you have any specific artists / IPs you look up to?

>>22633644
>drawing more basic forms in perspective
individually, for the most part i am, but in combination i find it much harder
>line thickness/direction
not super confident but i have a rudimentary understanding from practicing calligraphy with a fountain pen for a good while
>design own or make fanart
mainly making my own designs, which seems much more challenging than fan art. sometimes i’ll have a certain form or philosophy behind the look, like wanting a more organic and curved look rather than sharp and geometric, or like taking design cues from existing objects like cars or even animals or certain body types. i find it hard to make something look cohesive though, outside of basic shapes i’m terrible at deciding details or panel lining or whatever especially if i don’t have an idea of the internal mechanical structure
>goals
always to get better of course. in the somewhat short term id like to at least dabble in making a short visual novel
>artists/ips
i like the mechanical designs in aura battler dunbine, nausicaa, patlabor, FSS, dune/lensman/old scifi. izubuchi’s designs are cool and as much as nagano gets shit on for being pretentious his earlier designs for mecha and fashion are just astoundingly beautiful imo. i like designs that feel heavy but have grace and elegance in them that gives the clunkiness its own beauty. i also love the weirder gundam series designs, just because they’re so odd at times. i know it’s ridiculous to mention such beautiful designs while mine still look like middle schooler scribbles, but damn they can be so beautiful sometimes. even small things, like in ghost in the shell the guy’s fingers split open into lots of tiny sub fingers, i just adore that shit. it just feels hard climbing the mountain of getting to that point, i’m already pretty old (30) so i feel like my chance has already passed. feels like im much better with words, and that trying to learn drawing is an insult to those who can draw naturally

>>22633804
>basic forms
Something you could consider is to find some photos of tanks, planes or other vehicles to study - try to replicate their proportions using basic forms, then gradually up the fidelity.
>Why tanks etc. and not mechs?
Generally speaking, vehicles will have fewer forms and points of rotation for you to worry about. This makes them more approachable than a full mech for a form study, while giving you opportunities to try drawing some of the details that you'll often see incorporated on mechs (ie. paneling, greebles, etc.)

>line thickness
Right now I think the most impactful thing for you to pin down is line control - being able to have your line go where you want it to smoothly, without requiring too much trial and error (ie. "ctrl+z spam"). There are exercises for this that you can use to get stabler and smoother lines.

>design
Awesome! What you refer to as the "form/philosophy" is sometimes referred to "form language" or "visual language" - it's the sum of all design decisions going into an object that visually distinguishes it from other objects of a similar nature.
For example, Soviet cast metal / submarine-influenced spacecraft have an organic and curved form language, as opposed to Western aeronautics-derived geometric and sharp spacecraft.
You get better at identifying and applying form language by familiarizing yourself with their origins - building a "visual library", so to speak. The aforementioned vehicle studies will have the secondary effect of slowly building up your visual library of machinery, which you can then apply to your mechs.

>goals
While "getting better" is a goal, it's also kind of a vague one - it's important to have a concrete objective that you can break down into its constituent parts.
A VN is a good starting point - what components would you need to make a short VN, and what skills / resources would you need to create / procure them?

(cont.)

>>22633804
>>22633912
(cont.)

For example, if you want to do pilot portraits with expression sheets, you may also need to do facial and emotion studies of the kinds of people you want to include in your VN (or outsource it if you want to focus on mechs).
For mechs, maybe try gathering some examples of what you want to attain as a intermediate goal - then break down what skills you'll need to get there.

>artists/ips
It's good that you have a clear idea of and can articulate what kind of designs you like. Don't disparage yourself for looking up to designers who are better than you, that's how it's supposed to be - it'd be a lot more concerning if you mentioned exclusively shit designs. It's a lot easier to teach how to draw than it is to teach good taste.
Something you should consider is compiling a folder of your favorite designs, regardless of source - set it as a scrolling wallpaper or screensaver on your desktop. Have it be a reminder of what you're working towards.

>I'm already pretty old (30)
Missed your chance for what? If it's about working as a professional designer, that's not necessarily the case. Ralph McQuarrie, for example, started learning how to draw in his 30s before he went on to do principal design work on the likes of Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica in his 40s.
That said, there are other factors affecting the entertainment design industry that make it very difficult to get into right now - an oversaturated market, investors pulling out, lack of faith in new IP etc.
But your age wouldn't really be a significant one. There are more entertainment designers in the industry on their second career path than you might think.

And if you're just thinking of getting into this as a hobby or side gig, all those factors listed above shouldn't matter to you much, if at all.

>>22633912
wonderful advice, thank you so much!
>vn
it’s sort of a romance game at the core, the player would be an engineer who repairs mecha, and there would be four pilots as potential love interests.
>components
mainly character portraits and backgrounds, and definitely mecha designs. it’s still just on paper, but i enjoy just thinking about it. picrel is the rough sketch of a protagonist, or at least his outfit. i have a vague idea of the pilots too, but they’re pretty much just handsome men which makes drawing them easier since i like that subject matter

>>22633943
>folder of designs
good idea again, thanks! right now i have a lose pics floating around, consolidating them would definitely be a good idea
>not old
that’s good point too, im not looking for a job job. it’d be great if i could do indie gamedev, since i can already write pretty well and code decently enough to have made a short game already. it is a learning process i guess, and age can be a boon that’s easy to overlook at one’s. thanks for the thoughtful and in depth response!!

>>22638884
i know there's an actual pilot for scale, but i can't help thinking it also looks cool as a "big-dog"-scale robot that's remote controlled by the bigger pilot. the more human-looking arms help with that too

Yo so I finished my ring of red oil painting. might do some Votoms next