/krg/ - Kamen Rider General #3747: Sign of Power-Up Edition

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Reminder that Valverad is the Tertiary and Majade is the secondary, and thus majade will be receiving an upgrade before Valverad.

cockroach rider with an oval, Zulu-esque shield as a weapon when?

>>22646712
Doesn't matter, both will job in the end

>>22646708
>Still no tease or reveal of GT in magazine
This is premature ejaculation

>>22646719
Well without leaks we wouldn’t have known that Bujin Sword was coming either

What will Rinne’s upgrade form even be? The driver had nothing

>>22646726
another P-Bandai Unit obviously

>>22646723
First and Next suits look good as always

Wonder if Chesis will keep being a female Valvarad or turn into a proper Rider eventually. The issue is that her becoming a female Valvarad Rider seems likely but at the same time, I wanted her Rider form to keep the insect and plant motifs she had as a Malgam.

Will probably get a figure of whatever Chesis battle form gets turned into one. Although a plush or figure of her human form would be more welcome.

>>22646785
>Spanner back to jobbing
Well, him needing an upgrade is no surprise at this point.

>>22646785
haha houtarou sure is suffering lol

>>22646792
>Only if you beg like a good dog desu wa~

I wonder if the Lachesisniggers would a 180 in regards to their opinions about Gotchard if Alisa came out and said she thinks it's a great show with a lot of great characters.

>>22646800
This isn’t a Tournament show. Alchemist rankings have never matter.

>>22646723
First and Next were utter trash as movies but the Rider suits are top tier. I can't decide if First/Next or Shin are better, though.

>>22646808
I will respect her prrrrrrrrrrrrofessionalism and lick her heels more.

>>22646812
No, in this case it would be her genuine and honest opinion, not some form of shilling.

>>22646808
I rather have an Alisa than an Odagiri who trashes on the franchise or feels embarrassed about it.

>>22646811
I like Shin since because it's very accurate to the classic suit.

>>22646840
aw cute she fell asleep watching Gotchard.

>>22646843
You need to get your eyes checked.

>the big Kyomu can play Will save us
Kino.

>>22646870
A Man who knows 2024 recipes is one a quest to learn his 2025th recipe.

>>22646784
>Although a plush or figure of her human form would be more welcome.
>They released plushies of the main trio.
Damn, we were so close. I would buy the three dark sisters if given the opportunity.

Which suit will be kitbashed for Majade and Valvarad’s final forms?

>>22646917
They’ll just repaint their base forms.

>>22646917
Majade's suit will be fully original, Valvarad GT will be a kitbash of the base form with Steamhopper and Iron Gotchard parts.

NihonNeon

>>22646917
Gotchard hasn’t been slacking on the suit budget. I think Majade’s final form will be a similar budget as MoonCerberus. Valvarad’s may be a full suit if it’s PBandai.

Anonymous

>>22646948
Kivats bite on your hand not your cheek is she fucking stupid why can't she do anything right

>>22646951
The Dark Kiva from Hundred has Kivat II bite him in the neck, you seething retard.

>>22646951
Give her a break, she wasn't alive when Kiva aired

>>22646808
I got something stupider, imagine if Alisa is fem Toru Furuya

https://x.com/_yunachannel/status/1<wbr>794019822831075784
"I keep saying I'm really saying I'm going to lose weight, I'm going to lose weight.
I really need to lose weight.
Looking at cute girls makes me sick at this time.
Diet isn't everything but
I don't have my usual Hoshino motivation today
So please write about all the things you like about me."

>>22646995
>Anon?
>I know you saw my tweet. I posted it an hour ago.
>You're awake. Don't pretend you're asleep. I know you're reading this.
>Tell me I'm cute.
>Name my 5 best features.
>Do it now, Anon. Do it before I hurt us both.

>>22647013
I can’t believe Ikki killed Skebows

>>22647035
Chill Sabimaru you don't have to tear his clothes off

>>22647049
He comes from 2.5D theater world. That's all he knows.

>>22647057
Did you know that the Japanese boil grasshoppers alive in onions sauce and sugar then eat them as a snack? Yummy.

I'm five episodes into Geats, thought it would suck but this is cool! I think this might end up being top five by the end, no malarkey!

>>22647135
Geatsrager pls go and stay go.

>>22647139
Your "friend" there is a shitposter that's been plaguing this board for many years, you retarded newfaggot. Trust me, you don't want that nigger visiting this place, we already have more than enough mentally ill faggots as is.

What's the worst debut for a Rider you've seen?

>>22647190
I thought gotchard was dabbing at first

>>22647154
>Racism outside of /b/
Opinion disregarded. Also e-celeb shit is fucking tard shit.

I just wanted to watch a few episodes to see HIM but does this guy suffer a lot? <br>It's nice to see Riders suffer, it's part of the job.

Finally finished my Helios Gundam today, finally found time to finish it. So many pieces for the backpack it was obnoxious.

>>22647210
Damn it I thought this was the gunpla general, sorry!

>>22647209
Barely, there's maybe 5 episodes out of the current 36 where he actually does more then go OH MY GOTCHA and the stares at the camera look a deer in headlights.

>>22647121
Hi Sharky!!! Having another melty after defending Toru Furuya's honor?

[EiGo] Kamen Rider Gotchard - 17 [AMZN] [3DCB584D].mkv_snapshot_08.04_[2024.05.24_11.20.10].jpg

>>22647203
>suffering! fighting! strife!
>cute little mascot going on an adventure

>>22647215
He only started doing that 4 episodes ago and the movie which we didnt see until now.

>>22647227
>>cute little mascot going on an adventure

>>22647225
Please come back.
<s>Damn. Is this how Archer fans feel all the time? </s>

I finallyget what you tards have been saying. It's feels like Hotaro is supposed to be the first KR to have autism.

>>22647239
At least he'll be in the summer movie.

I'm afraid to watch the Buffa V-cinema. The synopsis sounds so stupid, even for Geats

>>22647244
I know and its great. But I hate how we're not gonna see this until December - January.

so do they ever acknowledge or ask why Legend uses chemies?

>>22647271
>They are quite different from your Chemy cards
was all of it, don't question it, just consume the funny Decade man.

>>22647271
>gaudy gold all over
>copies your gimmick
i think everyone just assumes that he's chinese

>>22646951
prolly she wanted to use a Kivaala prop for this, but they didnt have it (weird...) so she had to do with that?

>>22647291
still my least favorite ultimate form
it looks like just a blue dude, nothing final form about it. barely even looks like an upgraded form
and the painted on sparkles are horrible

>>22647277
i would LOVE to consume the funny decade man, but since he is not even really a character with less than 1 hour of overall screentime instead of a rider with his own series, i find that REALLY hard to do... <s>seriously tho, Legend SHOULD have been his own series, specially how his lore is connected to both Decade and Zi-Os. maybe the next anniversary season?</s>

>>22647292
It's from the day they filmed the Legend episodes. Dark Kiva was part of them, remember?

>>22647312
No I don't actually watch Gotchard.

>>22647299
>maybe the next anniversary season?
No, because producer system and that's also not how Bandai works.

>>22646995
I messaged her as a joke and now have her in my DMs. I'm encouraging her eating by recommending a bunch of different snacks she should eat.

>>22647347
>>22647342
and then the schizo woke up.

>>22647386
Aoi Honoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAs<wbr>hV6yXwhE

>>22647384
Gorgeous Blade is a kino suit. The original just cannot compare

>>22647398
Enjoy, little brother. It has some of the best jingles in the series.

>>22647384
>>22647402
>preferring piss colored plastic
Fix Blade’s helmet already.

>>22647384
you are the worst poster in this general

>>22647433
>tfw you're the mutt all along this fuels my petplay fetish so much <s>not as much as my diaper fetish tho</s>

>>22647407
Or, you know, reuse the stage show suit that they actually take care of

>>22647245
>Jyamato King-sama is gone, the inspiration for my ideology is dead, my existence is now pointless
There I TL;DR'd you the whole Dooms Geats character arc

>>22647433
<s>Do you think that once they're together, she will ask Spanner to fuck her like a dog?</s>

>>22647437
Nobody fucking asked. coomers are so fucking annoying

>>22647451
Homunculus
>Captcha: KRG2
If only.

>>22646785
The audience suffering from his acting skills or lack thereof perhaps

>>22647244
God even in the fucking promo poster Hotaro's deer in headlights stare

>>22647398
I hope you have the patience to suffer through the 1st arc.

悲しみを繰り返し
僕らは何処へ行くのだろう? 今1人1人の胸の中
目を覚ませ The time to go
強くあるために
また護ることと戦うこと
Dilemma は終わらない... 走りつづけても
End justiφ's the means

>>22647469
Why? It doesn't get any better. It stays that bad all the way through.

>>22647474
i gotta catch up with reiwa and see why everyone is mad the only other heisei season i haven't seen is zi-o

>>22647271
Adult circumstances. Like Gatakiriba's budget, or why Zi-O uses Sento's actor instead of Katsuragi's, or why Blade's helmet is yellow, or why King Form becomes Kiva's default form.

>>22647477
>i gotta catch up with reiwa
You really don't. Just skip them, watch only Geats, and wait for Gavv.

maybe kamen rider needs another 10 year break

>>22647476
I goes from shit to bad to aggressively mediocre
I still don't get how some people religiously defend it, but then again we have people who enjoy and defend gotchard and ghost so there's that

>>22647477
You're talking to an schizoid shitposter, the second biggest Anti-Saberfag after saboreschizo, just ignore him.

>>22647487
Sounds like you had a difficult life.

>>22647480
What does explaining why a character uses the same ability as another have to do with producers misusing the budget, actors not being available and Takaiwa getting crushed by a suit?

Saber is the only Reiwa series I was emotionally invested in.

>>22647496
You shouldn't let people waste their time on bad shows.

>>22647501
Don't lie, even when shitposting.

>>22647503
This is a kids show anon. You’re already wasting your time by watching it

how did the kiva suit end up so heavy anyway? what was it made of

>>22647513
It wasn't the weight itself, it was the weight distribution that was fucking up Takaiwa. Decade's suit is even heavier but has no such issue because the weight is distributed more evenly across the body.

>>22647501
Saber's bloated cast was too onenote outside of like the main four for me to care about the rest, and even then I couldn't care less about Touma's thing for a little girl.

>train turns into a helicopter

....what???

>>22647531
Oops, posted the wrong pic (kinda).

>>22647537
I was confused for a second and thought that was an image from Ghost. But no at least the Naginata had a use. These things though? Pointless.

Is Daybreak future Houtarou's final form?

>>22647495
they finally posted my favorite one of her new pics

>>22647546
Probably, considering that Platina managed to defeat Geryon in the "good" timeline. Daybreak also seemingly doesn't have the Nijigon Cards in his possession.

In regards to forms moreso powerups, how do we feel when to comes to earning them?

>>22647546
Only if Fire Steam Hopper is the only form he uses.

>>22647594
I need Shogo Muto to come back.

>>22647542
>But no at least the Naginata had a use
It was really only a leftover from the unused scythe weapon.

metal cluster is used way too long and 02 was used way too little, felt weird

>>22647626
Metal Cluster is 01's final form. 02 is a new and different rider.

>>22647631
yeah sure but it still feels like he's missing one more upgrade, assault hopper was so whatever

>>22647614
>>22647618
>>22647628
There's nothing wrong with being attracted to an attractive woman.

>>22647546
Probably will have something new in the movie since they haven't released his belt yet.

>>22647642
>>22647625
there's lots of designs i liked in ghost

>>22647636
Shining Assault Hopper is cool, the only downside is that Shining Hopper was abandoned so quickly.

remember that one episode late in the show aruto used shining hopper just so he could job to horobi

Can mods ban the SEAmonkeys shitting up the general, for the love of god?

i haven't been here in a number of years, was krg always kinda slow and full of schizo posts?

>>22647662
>was krg always kinda slow and full of schizo posts
Yes.

>>22647662
It's been particularly bad lately, the "Sex with Rinne" guy isn't so bad now but I'm so sick and fucking tired of the guy spamming "you are the worst poster in this general" on everything. Janitors, please help us.

>>22647643
>Daybreak Platinum but it's all Gold Chrome

>spamming waifufags
Perfectly understandable.
>spamming actual KR conversations
The fuck is wrong with you?

>>22647662
The most schizo thing I ever experienced was Maurice during ghost. Of course, that was before this faggot.

>>22647675
>Maurice during ghost

lmao i forgot about that stuff

>>22647245
Least you have your own anthro AU versions of the characters <s>in which I would snuggle all of them</s>

zero one has no good fights until the last stretch, really weird show. i hate how aruto jobs after every new form too

>>22647666
I feel like things during Zero-One weren't as bad as now either, not like I am any grand authority on the matter though.
I only started lurking here as Zi-O was wrapping up after just kind of watching rider on my own for a year or two, and it mostly seemed the same from then until most of the way through saber but the atmosphere was noticeably different for these threads by the time of Revice for sure.

Depending on if Boost 3 counts <br>Gotchard is the first rider since Zi-O and Ghost to not have a berserk form

>>22647690
Revice and Geats didn't have them.

>>22647690
>Depending on if Boost 3 counts
It doesn't. Ace was enraged, not out of control.

>>22647695
Revice technically does. And I don't mean Jack Revice in general, I mean when Vice was susceptible to Giff as Jack, so Giff took over.

>>22647697
>>22647699
Jack is not a berserk form. That's like saying Assault Wolf is a berserk form because Naki took control of Fuwa.

>>22647121
You need to actually kys troon avatarfag

>>22647671
They're literally the same person.

>>22647700
Context mother fucker, we're not having this debate again. Was Ikki in control when Thunder Gale had to be created? No? Well why the fuck is that do you think?

>>22647706
And it was not because of Jack. Jack is not a berserk form.

>>22647710
Jack puts Vice in control, Vice as a demon is susceptible to Giff. Giff takes over with Jack Revice, no other form. It didn't start off as one, but it did become a Berserk form, that's why Thunder Gale replaces it.

>>22647700
With that logic MCH isn’t a berserk form it’s just Ark taking over

>>22647714
>but it did become a Berserk form
It didn't. Jack is still not a berserk form.
By your logic Assault Wolf would be a berserk form.

>>22646723
Always thought adding the twin stripes to Rider 1 in The Next was a nice tough.

>>22647711
<s>>using the joke I made</s>

>>22647700
Back when the Jack Revice episode came out, it was described on the production blog as Revice's 暴走 (Rampage/berserk) form similar to Primitive Dragon and Metal Cluster Hopper. There's also this from the episode 24 (Jack Revice debut episode) summary where it's described as Vice rampaging.

>>22647725
Jack is still not a berserk form.
>summary where it's described as Vice rampaging
Things that didn't happen.

>>22647724
That's why you never, ever engage with the desperate shitposter.

>>22647720
Do you just not remember the context to why they need to introduce Thunder Gale? Is that it? I do not understand what's not clicking.

>>22647190
Unironically Gotchard
>Really bad CGI
"Ooh spooky floating JPEGs tearing up the city"
There's a physical Hopper-1 but we got ugly CG right off the bat
>Enemies have minimal explanation for motivation
Which I get is the usual but you don't even get their names in Episode 1

>Old Alchemist has like zero explanation for shit or even a name
You feel nothing when he's poorly vaporized because you know nothing at all about him
>Awful fight choreography
Really awful, Just sloppy

>Cliché high school stuff like it's an anime
Worst part honestly
Hoped the Alchemy school parts got better but never did lmao

>Alchemy doesn't really feel like it follows any rules
Just "whatever I need right now" type stuff

>Awful scenes
Acting is really not too good and I really hated his "stand up moment" scene
Something about the voice crack nearly and
"This is the Gotchard Driver
And I'm Kamen Rider Gotchard" just feels cringe and dogshit
He yells it in such a weird way, He has CONTINUED to have an atrocious problem with controlling volume of his voice and retarded facial expressions

>Scene settings are just kinda bad
Kirimantis is attacking him and firing blades and shit but Rinne is just right there standing around
No logic for "she was literally just after us but I should be good to just stand here"

>Transformation goofed on Episode 1
Did it really have to go straight to CG "Wild" form immediately? Also the belt doesn't work like the toy
Or reverse I guess
He transforms but is Wild Form, then doing it again it goes Rider
Which the Toy doesn't do at all
So you got kids sad on JP Twitter and socials over it

The only good was Spanner's design and they ruined it quick with a worse design when he got an Ignitor and Driver
Then the forced Female Rider shit with a retarded design

>>22647730
>Do you just not remember the context to why they need to introduce Thunder Gale?
To separate the two, not to calm a berserk form.

>>22647730
Don't reply to him, it's the resident shitposter using another one of his gimmicks, the one where he just keeps contradicting anons for the sake of it. Just report and ignore.

>>22647735
Don't forget potato quality camera.

>>22647740
Yes, because Vice was going berserk in the form that puts him in control thanks to Giff.

>>22647741
I'm not the one lying about berserk forms.

>>22647741
Idk if it is honestly or if it's just someone really, really autistic about Jack Revice.

>>22647746
Oh, no you're just shitposting, thanks for confirming.

>>22647744
He wasn't. Ikki already had full control of it by the time the vistamp was shown to be being worked on. Giff making Vice and Lovekov act crazy was after that.

>>22647747
No, it's that same faggot, notice how he doesn't even post proof when he gets accused of being the shitposter.

>>22647735
>which the Toy doesn't do at all
There’s a lot of things that the toy can’t do but they can do in the show. That isn’t an argument

>>22647750
Doesn't contradict anything, upgrading to TG became a necessity because of Giff taking over Jack Revice through Vice, which literally goes berserk in its final appearance.

>>22647753
I mean thanks for making me think back to when Revice was still kind of good at least.

>>22647757
But Jack is not a berserk form.

>>22647756
Anon has severe autism, please understand.

How is this general even alive with how much everyone just shits on Rider

>>22647756
Trolling and retarded
Discarded

>>22647763
/m/ has always been a place of hating.

>>22647761
In its last appearance it was.

>>22647766
It's not.
That's like saying mighty action x is a berserk form because Parad used it while controlling Emu.

>>22647677
I'm a newfag, what was the Maurice stuff during Ghost?

>>22647769
Well Parad didn't go on an uncontrollable rampage now, did he?

>Hated by 2chan, 4chan, twitter, reddit, and tokunation
Which rider show am I taking about?

WHEN THE FIVE HORNS CROSS THE GOLDEN JOBBER IS BORN.webm

>>22647776
So you do think mighty action x is a berserk form.

>>22647778
Nobody here goes on 4 of the sites you listed.

>>22647781
They're the same person, no. It's like I'm not saying Jack in general is one because Vice is in control, because Vice is also Ikki, it's when Giff takes control of Vice that Jack became a Berserk form because it's the only form where it's vulnerable to Giff's influence that that's possible in the first place, which happened in its last appearance.

>>22647764
It’s not trolling. Just look at what the memorial edition has in comparison to the normal DX.
https://youtu.be/yGSxRDH7jt0?si=5RI<wbr>AfNtxe0ng30-A

>>22647787
>using something that was literally made to be tv accurate and released post show
are you retarded

>>22647786
>It's like I'm not saying Jack in general is one
That's literally what you are saying.

>>22647790
I started this off stating I'm literally ONLY talking about its last appearance, where it was going berserk. And after that they never used it again, so its last appearance was as a form that was going berserk.

>>22647799
But it is not a berserk form. A berserk form is the form itself causes the berserk, not some outside force.

Wish Jimber made all the gold gray like it does here instead of just the head.

>>22647800
Jack Revice is a berserk form

>>22647800
It's because it's the only form where Vice is in control of Ikki that said outside force is able to take control though, meaning it is specific to the form.

>>22647586
It honestly depends on the power source.

With tech Riders you usually expect them to have their power-ups handed to them by the heroes' resident scientist, with the biggest struggles in obtaining the forms being collecting the "data" to create the item, malfunctions, or taking the upgrade item away from the villains' hands.

With magic/mystical Riders, power-ups are usually more directly tied to character arcs, with big emotional moments leading to the spontaneous creation/unlocking of the upgrade, though sometimes you also get storylines where the Rider needs to gather a full set of mystical toys to get their power-up.

I kinda prefer mystical Rider upgrades since they tend to feel a lot more personal, but I find R&D and arms race storylines from tech Riders to be pretty interesting too.

>>22647810
>>22647809
Jack Revice is a berserk form

>>22647809
And it is not a berserk form.
>Vice is in control of Ikki
By that point he wasn't.

>>22647810
It's the word of the staff versus the word of an autistic retard (you).

>>22647807
Not enough gray paint/marker.

>>22647822
>>22647820
Jack Revice IS a berserk form

i was watching this detective drama and when i finished it it finally hit me that the main antagonist was fucking phillip from w. I forgot this dude's name

https://www.kamen-rider-official.co<wbr>m/zukan/forms/1093
>バイスの力を極大化させて五十嵐一輝の肉体に還元した状態にあり、バイス<wbr>の破壊衝動のままに荒々しい戦闘を繰り広げる。

>>22647756
Not that anon, but it was the big debut. Then again, I guess this is the same show ignoring Legend's equipment screaming about Chemmies and all the Chemmies drawn on his cards.

>>22647728
>Things that didn't happen.
https://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/revice/s<wbr>tory/?24
>さくら(井本彩花)の前に現れた仮面の男、ウィークエンド代表・真澄は狩<wbr>崎の父だった。ローリングバイスタンプを一輝に送ったのも真澄。一輝なら悪<wbr>魔の暴走を制御できると思ったからだという。憤るさくらに真澄は「過去から<wbr>学ぶこと…それが未来を決める」と謎めいた言葉をつぶやく。
What does this paragraph say?

>thinking the form putting the Demon in control wouldn't be a Berserk form
Actually you know what fuck it, I was dumb for even entertaining the idea that it was only circumstantial to Giff. Fuck you anon, it's a Berserk form.

>>22647586
Despite Zi-O being a mess, Zi-O II was pretty good

>>22647085
I will not eat the bugs, Klaus.

>>22647846
Translate it directly. Where does it say Vice was not rampaging?

>>22647848
How? It was literally just handed to him and then has a bad song play during the boring fight.

So when are we getting another gotchard?

>>22647867
the saber one is hilariously stupid, why couldn't they make him a cool dragon or something

How close is gotchard to ending? I miss watching kamen rider but watching gotchard was like chewing on wet cardboard.

>>22647875
Because it's a monster from a gag Sentai.

>>22647867
>>22647875
You’re a fucking idiot. We don’t have an another monsters for Saber, Revice and Geats

>>22647927
To be fair, at least for the Geats one we got it even officially called Another Geats before they retracted the statement. It also has the line through the eyes like Another Riders often had and the human/monster mouth inside the mask. Unlike the other ones, it clearly was outright designed as an Another Rider, just isn't one story-wise, thus them not going with that name in the end.

>>22647937
>even officially called Another Geats before they retracted the statement.
this just isn't true

>>22647953
https://twitter.com/toeiHERO_movie/<wbr>status/1736184164125467081

Various press news sites like Oricon had reported it as "Another Geats" too.

https://twitter.com/oricon/status/1<wbr>736159553111392720

Ah yes, the true protagonist

Kamen Rider Valvarad

reiwa really feels like a clown era, it's over for kamen rider isn't it?

>>22647847
nta but Jack Revice only acted like a berserk form in it's last appearance otherwise the form was fine except for the whole switching Ikki and Vice thing which was resolved prior to them getting Thunder Gale

>>22648000
You are the worst poster in this general

>>22648000
I do. I give a shit
>>22648001
It’s instagram retard

>>22648002
Seriously, why are you like this?

>>22647867
What's even the Revice one, looks more like a Sentai monster.

>>22647920
>>22647927
They're not outright called Another Riders but just inherit the concept of monstrous version of the heroes.

>>22648014
>>22648014
More like cringe on the amount of times that phrase gets thrown around, and if you were "based", you would've said that shit to the saboreposter.

>>22648017
Anon, he IS the saboreposter.

>>22648008
<s>It is, it's from Zyuohger</s>

>>22648040
BU-WOMP
BU-WOMP
BU-WOMP
BU-WOMP

>>22648021
I’m not. Take your fucking meds faggot

wow that was something, what's it like to be in hellrising hopper form

>>22648097
The most immense rage and pain you've ever felt.

>>22648093
Where were you with the worstposter catchphrase whenever he spouts his crap around? >>22646713

>>22648108
Because he doesn't like to shit on his own shitposts.

>>22647430
>>22647433
>>22647495
>Producer-san comes home to this every night
It's not fair

i liked the movie, tomorrow i'll watch the v cinemas

>>22647190
The first 4 episodes in Gotchard are some of the worst to debut a series in Kamen Rider history. These are still the weakest part of the series. At least the sisters eventually became more likable or were never hateable, and Spanner is fine when he gets focus and planned episodes. But yeah, not even those 4 could make the debut episodes work.

At this point, I'm convinced Gotchard is an experiment to see how much Toei can get away with hiring young actors without experience as leads and sacrificing story/plot to shill randomized cards. If it weren't for the secondary, adult cast, guest actors, and Atropos, the show would have imploded long ago.

Unironically, Gotchard's debut made me appreciate more acting as a profession, no matter the medium. It changes your perspective on what it means to be an actor.

>>22648141
>i'll watch the v cinemas
YAMERO!

>>22648150
Let him watch it, maybe he'll actually like it and have his own opinion.

>>22647735
>>22648146
I didn't say series, I said Rider.

>>22648146
>At this point, I'm convinced Gotchard is an experiment to see how much Toei can get away with hiring young actors without experience as leads
Go back, you retarded newfag.

I swear to God, Gotchard is the ultimate newfag detector. Seriously, you got so many fucking retards coming here to complain about stuff that's common or used to be common in this franchise until recently, these clowns have absolutely no fucking clue what they're talking about.

Love how Gotchard fags keep damage controlling how bad the lead actors are. I still remember some of them having the audacity to say that Shotaro and Phillip also sucked as much as Hotaro and Rinne when W started. Obviously, this was a lie. Not even the first episodes of W had such terrible acting or were as bad as Gotchard's debut. And sure, it's normal for lead actors to improve as the series goes on, such as Sougo, but I'm not surprised that Matsumoto and Motojima after 35 episodes are still bad at their roles.

Motojima is at least a better actor than TV Decade Masahiro.

>>22648164
>Love how Gotchard fags keep damage controlling how bad the lead actors are.
Retard, I'm not. You can can complain about how much Gotchard's leads suck all you want, but being surprised at the mere fact that they hired young inexperienced actors for the leads in a Rider show is just straight up newfag behavior.

>>22648097
I don't like shinning assault at all, but Hellrising is one of my favourite forms, even tho it's just a straight repaint

>>22648164
You haven't seen the HBV, because Gotchard and Majade play each other's characters perfectly.

>>22648213
LMAO
That's such cope holy fuck

>>22647879
Hopefully never so that all of you people can get filtered out.

>>22648218
Stop with the fucking x links. Change it to twitter and it embeds on 4chanx

>>22648227
https://twitter.com/ride_kamens/sta<wbr>tus/1794277220867035275
Happier now?

>>22648245
It's a fujo focused raising sim with a Kamen Rider theme that Bandai really wants to succeed.

>>22648257
I think I got dumber trying to read this picture

>>22648237
Gives me more Magical Girl vibes then an actual Kamen Rider Henshin.

So red pill me, what was the point of putting Legend on the Q2 Poster and then making a3rd Poster for a 4 parter special. Seems like a desperate "Please watch!!!! we're good we promise!!!" to me.

>>22648271
Same reason King-Ohger put King Kyoryu Red in its second half poster even though he barely appears in the show.

>>22648271
God knows, Kaguya was such a non character that detracted more from Gotchard's lack of pace and writing

Why did Punk Jack act like a drone at the start?

>>22648312
That game didn't have enough participants so they brought him in and told him to stay quiet and help his partner.

>>22648313
From what I heard from the Gotchard Festival leak it sounds pretty nice

>>22648271
>>22648274
Honestly no one said being in poster equals with the screentime, I guess it just meant that character will appear eventually.

>>22648318
The real reason is they hadn't thought of his character yet.

>>22647586
Power up is best when tied to big character moment, but with the form and rider bloat nowadays it gets a bit exhausting.

The only show where it feels a bit unearned is Gaim due to daddy Sagara, but even then that's a plot point in itself where Sagara is actively backing Kouta despite him being a "neutral" observer, because he wants to see something else than the strong dominating the weak for once.

>>22648341
I pray his power isn't just summon CG Rainbow Chemies

>>22648211
Explain why there are no white Kamen Riders then

>>22648365
It’s going to be Platina Gotchard, but it punches harder.

>>22648370
>800 year old king from Europe

>>22648379
Don’t move the goal posts when you’re wrong.

>>22648382
No goalposts have been moved, and neither have no white Kamen Riders been posted.

>>22648271
I really think Bandai wanted more Legend and that extra push outside of those arcs was Toei's compromise. Note that for example he had tv commercials for his mercha and was included in the pre-show intro for one month before the episodes. His presence in marketing was much bigger than in the show.

If Toei actually wanted in the'd just have added him as a recurring character rather than this odd situation.

>>22647586
Revice, Gaim and Gotchard don't deserve them.

>>22648282
Sento would have pulled off crying over a dead skateboard

>"Dark Malgam"
>not an amalgam with anything

https://files.catbox.moe/mowzn0.mp3<wbr>
THE SKY'S THE LIMIT
<s>super compressed ver</s>

>>22648415
Pretty nice. Sounds like it could be an OP to another season all in itself.
When this is playing during the actual first Rainbow fight I can't imagine how cool it'll be.

>>22648415
I like it less than both Rising Fighter and What's Your Fire.

>>22648409
>Sento would have pulled off crying over a dead skateboard
Also Neon. For the wrong reasons though.

>>22646708
is spanner the daiji of gotchard?

>Toei outsource chink sfx artist
>They spoiled Valvarad and Majade power-up
heh

>>22648237
i hope they get actual masked forms. i'd play it.

>>22648442
Spanner is more like Tamaki, an accessory to the a villainess who gets 2-3 or good episodes to himself but not much.

>>22648448
Spanner is related to the big boss through his “black flame” though

>>22648257
Legend can’t access specific forms.

>>22648415
It’s kinda obvious to say that it’s fitting, but it really is.

Remember when Gotchard could close his helmet-mouth?

>>22648499
looks like an old man with glasses

>>22648499
You mean the thing that only happens during transformation?

>>22648502
He rarely does it in transformations now.

>>22648439
Agreed. Both those songs were trying to be exciting and hype up a fight. This one is trying to be wholesome and cute. The Geats IX theme had the same problem, so I guess secondary riders exclusively get cool final form themes.
Rewrite the Story was so good they decided they can’t top it so now they want “sentimental” final form songs

>>22648448
Barely
>>22648442
Spanner is significantly less annoying despite being ten times more hostile

Ep.37’s guest actress

Suzuhara Saori (1990)

>>22648461
>who gets 2-3 or good episodes to himself but not much.
still more than Majade and Hotaro

>>22648390
Geats IX is not in that picture

>>22647586
Riders who rightfully earned them
>Kuuga, Agito, Blade, Hibiki, OOO, Fourze, Wizard, Ghost, Ex-Aid, Build, Zi-O, Geats and Gotchard

>>22648376
800 year old king of Europe who speaks fluent japanese

>>22647904
You have no idea how much I want this fkin game but its gonna be JP only never in english I'm so mad.

>>22648529
>ten times more hostile
Daiji actually fought Ikki multiple times.
Houtaro and Spanner’s relationship has no bearing on the story.

Anyone got the uncompressed version now? The song’s out

>>22648555
>Houtaro and Spanner’s relationship has no bearing on the story
Supana's character arc involved him seething because he was falling behind Houtaro, and Houtaro helped out with the ValvaraDriver's creation.

>>22648574
Ziku Driver if I have to choose, it has the most fun gimmick imo. I like the little seethrough projection thing of the Game Driver and BeyonDriver tho

>>22648447
If the devs are smart they'll implement five star variants/cosmetics that have full face coverings.

>>22648555
>Houtaro and Spanner’s relationship has no bearing on the story.
Not only has Houtaro had an ally that helped keep him alive in most cases since the beginning because of Valvarad, but it's because of Houtaro that Spanner was able to understand Chemmies better which allowed him to evolve Mad Wheel. Not only that but if it weren't for Hotaro and Rinne helping with the Valvaradriver's creation, there wouldn't even be a Kamen Rider Valvarad.

saber has an ending theme huh, have they done this before

>>22648607
>have they done this before
Yes, during Kuuga and Hibiki.

damn the saber op is bussin fr fr no cap

>>22648607
Fun fact: parts of the ending section change in accordance to the events that happened during the episode. Same thing with the WRB eyecatches, the text isn't always just callout transcriptions.

>>22648602
Don't forget to watch the Retsudens/Swordsmen Chronicles for a better Q1 experience.

>>22648533
Guess she voices a new Chemmy

>>22648609
Saber's ED was one of those dancing Super Sentai EDs popular during the 2000s and not at all like Hibiki/Kuuga's ED.

>>22648658
Anon specifically said ending theme, not ending dance.

>>22648658
it made me think of sentai since they're dancing

[FlameSubs] Kamen Rider Saber - 03 (BD) [AEA7BAD0].mkv_20240525_114711.919.jpg

>>22648592
>>22648607
>>22648615
>>22648640
>>22648638
>>22648679
Can you image spam less? Otherwise, we will hit the image limit way before the thread gets to pages 8, 9, or 10.

>>22648685
oh nooo that would be so terrible

>>22648685
Nah, he should keep spamming Saber to make the shitposters seethe.

>>22648685
go outside schizo i posted like 1-2 screenshots per ep lol

[FlameSubs] Kamen Rider Saber - 03 (BD) [AEA7BAD0].mkv_20240525_120249.168.jpg

>>22646811
I don't think The First is that bad. Clumsy and misguided but KR has had a lot worse. The Next is a total mess. Some of the action sequences are solid though, and it's something I wish Shin had done more of.

>>22648415
>GATCHA GATCHA GATCHA GO
for all it's worth, Gotchard has some really good inserts. I hope that'll be a Reiwa staple from now one instead of re-using the OP everytime you need hype.

what's the most obvious "these weapons are made of rubber" scene in rider?

>>22648741
You can visibly see Ouja's poolnoodle flop and and bend whenever he swings it or hits something solid

>>22648754
I completely forgot Saber and a whole "mix and match" gimmick, I think it got dropped at the first real upgrade <s>before it also got a dropped 4 episodes in</s>

so when is saber bad in the beginning? I've seen five episodes today and it's been pretty entertaining. The action feels a bit better than zero one's too. All the knights have really good designs so far buster is really cool and espada is very nice. If I had to say something bad it's how many cg scenes there's been in such a short amount of time.

>>22648726
Really hoping Gavv and so on pick up on the elements what Gotchard brought back: insert songs playing more than thrice and standalone episodes that are stories with lessons and/or give characters time to be themselves rather than just being plot advancers/explanations.

>>22648796
>give characters time to be themselves rather than just being plot advancers/explanations.

That hasn't done jackshit for Gotchard when the mains are essentially planks of wood. You can argue all you want, but Gotchard showcases all the problems with an episodic format when the two mains can't act and there's a constant churn to advertise new cards and gimmicks. End of the day the good episodic shows had a stronger cast to carry the show and sell the story. If you don't have that and even lack an ongoing story to hook the audience, you have shit which is what gotchard is.

>>22648803
>You can argue all you want
Which I won't cause its clearly you have an objective view of what you want it to be rather than trying to just enjoy what it is. I'm enjoying it regardless of the So called "quality" and despite not buying any of the toys or shit. Go ahead and skip and hope to Ace or Kouta that the next Rider show is something your own palate will enjoy.

>>22648803
Shut the fuck up, plotfag. Gotchard's best episodes are standalone adventures rather than plot-heavy ones.

>>22648791
Good job anon, keep making the shitposters seethe.

>>22648231
>>22648237
These are god damn hideous and just fujo slop lmao

>>22648791
It's legit a meme to hate on saber
The "Sabore" guys who shitpost are unironically SEA posters and autisticspergs that didn't finish the show because they can't read quickly or process information
Quite literally they're sub IQ apes

>>22648863
No, it's just a bad show. The meme is pretending to like it.

>>22648880
Reiwa Kamen Rider in a nutshell. There hasn't been a decent show since Heisei. Just a bunch of fans white knighting one pile of crap over another whether it's Zero One, Saber, Geats or Gotchard.

>even the big bad final boss has a motw undersuit

it can't get any cheaper than this

>>22648823
The village one was shit. The Rinne centered ones by Inoue and Hasegawa were all terrible. Standalones don't work if the cast can't act. Characterfagging over two idiots who can only scream or not emote at alll is what you Gotchard fags have been reduced to.

>>22648892
>The village one was shit
You have shit taste.

>Characterfagging over two idiots who can only scream or not emote at alll is what you Gotchard fags have been reduced to
Take your meds, fag.

>>22648890
>it can't get any cheaper than this

If you can believe that, it's actually an improvement over the previous budget show (Geats).

Monsters still cost money even if you have Gotchard where parts of the monster suits are all the same and can be readily reused to make new ones.

The previous budget show had only like eight monster suits altogether throughout the entire show and three of them were final boss monsters near the end.

>>22648888
maybe you're the one that doesn't like kamen rider anymore

I like Gotchard more than Revice, Saber, Zero-One's second half and Geats's second half.

zero one's biggest problem is the villain side, metsboujinrai should have stuck around longer before gai

>>22648726
That’s the worst part of the song

>>22648601
>Kamen Rider Valvarad
The show doesn’t need a Kamen Rider Valvarad

man there's a lot of villains this season, kinda cool

>>22648971
The world doesn't need you, but here we are

they skip the stock footage when they're all together and it just cuts to them in the suits, that kinda sucks.

>>22649003
Characters in fiction have a purpose, we don’t.

i'm enjoying how much action there is every episode in saber, feels nonstop so far

>>22649007
>>22649017
Did you watch the first Retsuden?

>>22649020
no, when are you supposed to watch it

>>22648902
>The previous budget show had only like eight monster suits altogether throughout the entire show
Like half of them shares the same lower part.

>>22649024
Buster and Slash's between episodes 8 and 9, Kenzan's between 9 and 10, Espada's between 13 and 14 (it chronologically happens during episode 13), and Blades' between 15 and 16.

The Phoenix Swordsman movie between episodes 10 and 11.

>>22649030
cool thanks i'll watch it next then

>>22648757
That's basically every single post-Decade show. The early forms stop being used entirely when the upgrades are introduced.

>>22648640
I would have liked Blades' face design a lot more had the crest/eyes been totally compound or not at all.

>>22648237
What even in the fuck is Ride Kamens and is anyone even interested in it? It looks so generic as fuck.

>>22649139
>japanese gacha

into the trash

>>22649139
>What even in the fuck is Ride Kamens
An ikamen gatcha designed to appeal to women.

>>22649142
>>22649153
Oh
Oh....
Yeah into the fucking trash it goes

>>22649114
I kinda like them, they remind me of the eyeholes in the masks of Zorro, Poitrine, La Seine no Hoshi and the like.

>>22648709
Only those pure of heart can see what he has posted

>>22648791
Honest answer, Saber introducing riders at the pace it does in Q1 makes people kinda hate it because they perceive it as the genesis of the whole problem of the show having "too many riders" and their faves getting less attention as a result. If you can stomach that, however, Q1 is a pretty decent setup to the rest of the show.

>>22648791
Keep in mind, most people's opinions of a show are set during the period it is first aired. Many shows that are seen as boring and slow are less bad when binge watched, simply because you don't have to stew with a mediocre or by-the-numbers episode for a week and change before the next one.

Lifenet ad with the Ex-Aid actors again<br>Poppy looks really good.

Okamoto Nobuhiko is voicing ??? In Gotchard

Houtarou's actor can do a pretty convincing break down.<br>Also Rainbow next week.

Since any illusion of death has been shattered by this franchise already, I’d rather they “kill” Chemmies than humans

Houtarou is the rainbow that will bring back color to the Chemy and the world!

>>22649243
Every time a Dread user used a Replichemy card they killed it.

>>22649247
They FINALLY took Lachesis out of the final section.

It was a good episode but I certainly feel I’ve seen this setup before. Sucks that the other riders are forced to lose just so Rainbow looks cooler.

>>22649253
It’s fine, it’s what they’re there for.

>>22649254
Houtarou did you lay this egg?

>>22649243
>Since any illusion of death has been shattered by this franchise already,
Only Zi-O, Ohmori's and Takahashi's shows have this problem.

>>22649257
All of which are sadly recent in our memories

NihonNeon

>>22649254
Bro, that’s straight up a digitama.

Anonymous

Motojima was... actually good in this one

>>22649257
Gotchard's demonstrating this problem as well, unless you somehow expect them to not revive Skebows and Hopper 1.

>>22649269
Finally using the Chemy’s head as the Malgam’s head. Not even Gigst got that treatment.

>>22649241
Wow. This suit is really good at making Gotchard look fat.

>MatsuuraP: The theme of these episodes is called "The necessity of violence" Or more accurately, what should someone do if the only option is to fight back? Houtaro at his core is a nice person, so what if you force the anger from him? The darkness inside him? What causes him to break? I hope this information makes last episode as well as next a thrilling view

>>22649269
When Color said Hopper X was gonna turn humanoid I was hoping for something like this. I like the idea of Riders having non-Rider bros to fight alongside. Very underused concept, has a pathos to it we need more of in Rider.

>>22649268
It's obvious from the get go that the Chemys aren't really dead since their bodies are still there and this week showed that there was some dark aura thingy inside Skebows. The humans on other hand have stayed dead for the most part (and even in Fuga's case they made it clear since early on that he might not be actually dead).

>>22649279
What the hell is his head then?

>>22649298
It's obvious to us, the omniscient viewers who watch these shows so routinely we know the tricks the writers and directors pull for these things, but the intent is still meant to make us think the Chemy are dead, with the same kind of facades used when say, Kiriya died. I also think it's just an issue with Japanese shonen writing in general, not really just Kamen Rider like the first anon asserted. It's hard to market corpses.

>>22649300
Top of a hat. Trismegistus’ eyes are down there.

>>22649307
Kinda but not necessarily what I meant since Valvarad was clearly meant to fill in more of the "Rival" archetype like Chaser or the TranSteam boys. But his time with just going Tekkou was a breath of fresh air, I will concede that. We need more non-Rider henshin characters and allied kaijin. It gives more weight to the actual Riders present in the narrative plus again - there's a pathos there you don't get when everyone's got the toy shilling belts that have to compete with the protagonist's toy shilling belt.

>>22649306
>but the intent is still meant to make us think the Chemy are dead
Dunno about that, this week the heroes checked Skebows' body and it seems less like the Chemys are dead and more like they are infected or in a coma.

>>22649308
Which is odd because the camera often chooses to close on the "hat" in the same way one would a human character's face.

>>22649306
I think the last time a major piece of Japanese shonen media had a major character die and stay dead - complete with all the narrative consequences and trauma behind it - was Retsu in Baki. Dude died and he stayed dead, in the same arc they showed they could raise the dead, even. There's the whole kung fu ghost thing but even that's gone nowhere.

>best friend dies
>hotaro immediately finds a new best friend

>>22649311
Well yeah, that Gigst’s face. But not Trismegistus’ face.

>>22649261
how else is gonna evolve into Rainbowdramon?

This final quarter is pretty good so far

>>22649350
Houtarou's actor really sold that break down over Hopper1 "dying."
Slowly improving in some ways, though it's funny he does despair better then other emotions.

>>22649350
This isn't the final quarter, anon, it's the end of Q3. Q4 will start after the final form debuts.

Gigist so far is being a pretty good villain.

>>22649364
He has presence and a cool voice at least.

Fucking Alpha the Hundred commander is now BunViolet

>>22649372
Honestly, this. Giff but better is apropos.

>>22649377
He's a busy boy

>>22649348
Become a Malgam first. Houtaro broke this episode, to the point of no return, because Gigist killed Hopper1. The truth of the Chemies is that both malice and goodness are needed for them to be born in the first place, in order for them to be true living beings.

>next episode is literally titled Over the Rainbow

>>22649393
Kinda feels weirdly beneficial for Hotarou whatever Gigist is doing. He turns Hotarou into an egg which allows Nijigon and subsequently Rainbow Gotchard to be born.

He's like Gai but his actions doesn't seem born out of simply being dumb

Sakamoto isn't directing Rainbow's debut, it's Yamaguchi.

>>22649405
>He turns Hotarou into an egg
I don't think he intended to do that, the Malgamification just got interrupted by Nijigon.

>>22649409
Still better than whoever directed Platinum Gotchard debut

>>22649409
In Gotchard, he did the Zukuynmpire and Romeo epsiodes. Otherwise, he did Build Genius and Hyoer Muteki's debut.
>>22649416
Ryuta Tasaki actually. Which is strange cause he did Fire Gotchard.

>>22648949
Should have put in the tranny donut shop from Wizard for a nice reference

>>22649364
He's got the important bare minimums:
>He's got charisma
>He gives you a reason to dislike him beyond the nebulous (he's evil)
>He's proven to be a threat
This is enough to put him in the annals of Reiwa Rider villainy alongside Ark-One, /fitlit/, Isaac, Akaishi, Veil, Chirami, Beroba, Kekera, and Jitto/Zitt/whatever his name's supposed to be.
This should also tell you how low the bar is.

>>22649453
Oh, forgot to add Desast and Charybdis. They're good too.

>>22649453
The only good character on that list is Beroba because I want to FUCK her

>>22649467
we know from the last 2000 times you've said this

>>22649413
No, Nijigon WILL be the catalyst to turn Houtaro into a Malgam. Like I said, Chemies are born of kindness and malice.

>>22649495
It's time to take your meds again, anon.

>>22649499
It's great as a feel-good type of song but doesn't really fit as an OP.

>>22649499
The full version made it *so* much better

>>22649497
I'm serious. They won't show the Rainbow Malgam because nobody knows it, but it will happen before Houtaro himself coverts his powers as a Malgam into a new power for Gotchard.

>>22649506
>I'm serious
Yeah, your schizophrenia is pretty serious.

What was the last Rider show with such extreme whiplash as Gotchard's "lalala chemy GET!! oh no Hopper is fucking DEAD"

Was it Den-O? "Lala happy fun Imagin HOLY SHIT DELETE ALL MEMORIES TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SAVE TIME"

>>22649499
and we hit the fucking image limit because of this idiot's spam

>>22649511
His /fa/shion is in a whole other level.

>>22648823
Romeo and Juliet two-partner and the Kyoto two-partner are the best episodes of Gotchard, I think that says everything about this show. They should have leaned much more heavily on the comfy high school vibes, and having teenage romance and drama stuff.
Legend three-parter was good too but just for the fanservice.


In the movie Transformers (2007), how did Starscream manage to land on an military airbase without a real pilot inside? It was established at the start of the movie that the military would shoot, so does the Air Force not have a protocol to check?

>>22647081
>Transformers (2007) is 41 years ago
wtf man

You put more thought into it than Bay did.<br>He makes flashy dumb action movies for 13 year olds, the hows and whys of the story are irrelevant.

>not being well acquainted with "never exits the cab" Carl
Might be breaking a few protocols but he's a damn good wingman if you ask me


Gundam "Silver Phantom"

Huh. Looks like the Silver Phantom is a Delta Gundam variant.

>>22647483
You're late to the party, anon


What do you think is the perfect size and proportions for a mecha? Should they go to battleship size or stay in the modern military vehicle range?

>>22647076
Personally I think no more than 15m is ideal for a real robot, even mobile suits at 18m already start to feel a bit silly big for war machines. Armored Cores at around 10m on the other hand look almost perfect and hits some arbitrary sweet spot for feeling "believable".

There is no "perfect" size, different ones serve different purposes. Watch more /m/ retarded nigger.

>>22647076
Army vehicles I'd actually prefer up to 10m at most. I actually think Gundams are unnecessarily big.

Now, unique super robots can be any size.

>>22647095
>>22647153
Why so angry? Substitute in "favorite" instead if that makes you feel better about the question

>>22647181
Sir, we're bitter and deranged here

If they are battleship sized they should just be a battleship and serve the role of a battleship while they're at it.

>>22647076
>Should they go to battleship size or stay in the modern military vehicle range?
Why not both?
>giant resource-hungry death machine that destroys everything in its path and acts as a carrier but is slow and can only be in one place at any given time
>lots of building-sized grunts and aces
Mini-mechs are lame unless they're treated more like power armor. They need to be at least two stories high.

>>22647087
Not to mention, smaller machines would be easier to produce in large numbers. I also think Armored Core nails the level of complexity needed for a war machine. All their joints are single joints, and every limb moves as much as it needs to. Double jointed knees and elbows, ab crunches, and all that make for fun poses and action figures, but militaries would only want as much as is necessary to make a functional machine.


Mazinkaiser SKL was so fucking good, I need more badass cool shit happening mecha<br>While I enjoy my slow ponderous ruminations of the nature of decay and the soul like Casshan Sins and Zegapain, sometimes you just want to see a robot fuck shit up


>>22648321
Robots from long dead shows often get new toys. Not anything new, though kinda surprised they didn't do it for the 10th anniversary.

>>22648321
In a time where we get fully transformable Groizers and Srungle, Hagane no Oni, Bokurano and Gunleon model kits, that's just a wet fart.

>>22648356
Fuck your whore mother for adding to your entire faulty generation, phoneposter.


Which version has the better soundtrack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ows<wbr>8i4ldIrc
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?li<wbr>st=PLGSDoWO9N6MyILbpObsd4S7mKzJCWc2<wbr>nl


>>22642486
fujos didn't like the show because there were no homo characters thus Banrise labeled the show as a failure and stopped making toys for it until X/DX got popularity boost from SRW Alpha Gaiden

Nobody likes the Frost Brothers in Japan

i dont know why claws are such a big deal in gundam. Its stupid. so you can pinch a robot. big whoop. you dont see any real world militarys with offensive vehicles with claws for battle -do-you-kno--why-because-they-are FUCKING DUM

>>22642486
Fun fact: Those claws are called Atomic Scissors, which is also a weapon in Final Fantasy 7

>>22642577
retard. they cut mechs into pieces and also act as long-distance weapon

>>22642577
Claws are banned by the secret geneva convention part 2, because of their destructive abilities.

>>22642562
Does anyone like them in the West?

>>22642562
Neptunia devs like them they even made them characters in the games
https://neptunia.fandom.com/wiki/Ol<wbr>der_Brother#Trivia
https://neptunia.fandom.com/wiki/Yo<wbr>unger_Brother

>>22643356
I would buy it too and pretty much every Gundam collector would buy it

>>22642486
Unironically one of coolest Gundams but it was unfairly used as a support for Versago

>>22648927
Let X faggots stay in their little delusional world. Logic and reality doesnt bother them. They think Bandai will still feel it prudent to invest money in their failure of a show

>>22648941
>tourist troon can't even distinguish the designs and tried to look smart
Too many cases

>>22648927
that was one of the first Gunpla me and my brother ever built, at the time we thought X must have been some sort of Wing sequel due to how especially similar the Wing and X mechanical styles are

>>22648958
>Delusional X-autist cant even distinguish two people on a Tibetan robot enthusiast forum

>>22648963
Were you disappointed learning how X wasn't even a quarter as good or one fifth as successful as Wing?

>post anything from X
>trannies seethe
everytime

>>22642577
dis post was ritten by a grot

>>22648927
Hermit Crab has an even bigger bagpack. It's a proper upgrade visually compared to the Virsago Heartbreak.

>>22642494
>no homo characters
>Main villains are literally brothers in an incest relationship

Please stop lying.

>>22649019
/pw/ussy accuses everyone of being a tranny

Please go back to your containment board.

>>22649165
>two brothers who deeply care about each other areas in incest relationship
You faggots label everything as gay because you have no family or friends.

>>22648165
>pretty much every Gundam collector would buy it
If that was the case they'd have given it something in the nearly 30 years since it was on TV.

>>22649739
Most gunpla collectors don't watch the shows. They just buy everything gunpla for room decoration

>>22649823
Why do people have to make bullshit up like this? If that was the case everything would get kits because there would already be an established reliable portion of the fanbase that was guaranteed sales regardless of series. That isn't the case. Gunota don't exist in a vacuum either. They know where things are from and what they represent. Whether it's because the unit isn't popular or the series its from just doesn't move merchandise, they've never made a kit for this unit.

>>22649893
Aerial Gundam kits sold out before the anime was out
gunpla autists are this pathetic

>>22649894
No they didn't. That has nothing to do with Ashtaron anyway. Does every kit sell out before their shows release? After? WfM ending up being incredibly popular and Aerial sold off of hype and people liking the show.

>>22642494
You're right, the gayest thing about X are its fans.

>>22649974
Garrod x Tiffa is super hetero
the fans are straight.
fujos who came from Wing expecting more fujobait characters is what killed X.
that's why Banrise backpedaled to more fujobait shows like Seed, 00 and IBO.
fujos are consoomers and Banrise love threm

>>22650156
>Garrod x Tiffa is super hetero
Yeah, but you suck off Garrod so hard it makes you a gigafaggot. I think you might love him more than Tiffa herself does.

>>22650162
>source: my discord troll channel

>>22650156
Fujos are straight though, since they are only interested in men. You are bisexual, because both Garrod and Tiffa make you hard.

>>22650164
My source are your faggy-ass posts gushing about Garrod.

>>22650166
and I post Tiffa in Gudam girl threads
dilate harder
>>22650165
now they are not.
fujos make Amuro x Char fanfics because they cope with the fact that they are straight characters lusting over Lalah

>>22650167
Fujos are super straight because they have no interest in other women, only men. Meanwhile you are a dude interested in Garrod, another dude, which makes you at least half gay or bisexual.

>>22650170
>women watching gay porn is straight
you are a Jew
male x female is the only straight relationship
everything else is Talmud degenercy

>>22650170
>if you like Jesus then you are gay

>>22650171
>>women watching gay porn is straight
Yes? Those women are straight because there's only men in it. It would be pretty gay of them if they got turned on by watching another woman get fucked.

>male x female is the only straight relationship
Yes, but it only the couple itself straight. Someone who is attracted to both parties in a straight relationship like you are with Tiffa and Garrod is bisexual. Your obssession with Garrod is what makes you a half fag.

>>22650172
The difference is that most people don't fantasize about and jack off to Jesus like you do with Garrod.

>>22650179
>>22650181
where did you get the idea that I'm obsessed with Garrod?
He's not even in my top 5 protags
I like Kamille, Seabok, Christina, Domon, and Heero better
I don't dislike him either, he's a good character but certainly not a top-tier one


How do multiple people piloting on one mecha work?

It's looks like a bit of a hassle to operate

>>22617084
Usually it's not explained
Sometimes it is though, like for example the SRX wherein Ryusei pilots, Rai handles the power and engine management, and Aya spends the entire time generating enough psychic bullshit to keep the combination together
Dai Guard also had something similar

>>22617084
Two work the legs
Two work the arms
One works the anus

Only one pilot is directly managing the movement of the robot; the rest are busy managing its other internal systems, subsystems, and targeting for ranged weapons where necessary, e.g. one pilot may be dedicated solely to keeping tension between the combined parts while one of the others is firing the missiles. Other times, multiple pilots might indeed have to actually coordinate the movement of the machine ala >>22617092, Ideon for example had a bit of both of these where the three pilots controlled some aspects of the Ideon's movement, but extra crew were also occasionally used to help man the Ideon's weapons.

More serious answer.

When general electric tested this walker, they saw that doing it manually was extremely tiring for the pilot, like 10mn top.
Even with computer, automatization and better interface, keeping track of your moves, future more and inertia would be a full time job.
And if you need to tell your missiles what to lock on and hit, you can't exactly ask the enemy to pause while you deal with the interface.

So if I made my Zentai based on >>22617084
>Red is 100% movement, and tell Blue the priorities
>Blue redirect the limited energy they have to each subsystem in accordance to Red's vocal command
(like a submarine captain but yelling his orders)
>Yellow control all attack weapons, if Red need a sword, Yellow trigger the release of the swords, of he need the MegaDinoBeamCannon so be it.
>Black is in charge of defense like energy shield, physical shield or anti-missiles laser.
>White play solitaire on his console
>just kidding, White is in charge of Radar, he scan for new threat and is the one who send informative Marker to Red telling him where is the next threat, he is also in charge of telling Red what area he should push the enemy in to avoid collateral

all the buildings they are going to knock.

For mechs with more than one pilot, do you prefer when they share a cockpit or when they each have their own?

>>22617084
honestly, AI would work well with walking, balance and grabbing stuff

In MMPR, Jason is usually handling "the fighting" and he only addresses the other Rangers when he needs something done with the power supply, the shields, etc. They're all capable of summoning the Power Sword though, either together or individually.

>>22617290
When they share one cockpit. It helps sell the "this is five robots combined into one" aspect better.

>>22617084
Their hearts are in unison so the power of the combined mech is directly proportional to how in sync all their actions are.

Watch some shows and find out op.
>>22617325
>AI
Retard.

>>22617288
>>22617396
>>22617256
This is what they did in the El Dorado V. For sentient combining mecha I assume they have to unite their minds into one or maybe there's a new system that takes over when they combine.

One actually pilots and the other two make sure the thing is not blowing up/falling apart.

>>22617091
Rai is also in charge of weapons release for the ZO Sword and in case of the Banpreios, the docking sequence for the R-Gun Powered's gunstock unit that serves as the adapter/bridge capable of making Banpreios squeeze off the HTB. He also handles some ranged weapons targeting.

Ryusei handles movement, as well as melee and telekinetic powered attacks.

And indeed, Aya (and in Banpreios's case Mai) is basically just there to hold the thing together. Not so much in the sense of holding the component mechs together, because they do interlock into place. But more in the sense of dedicating her telekinetic energy to ease the joint tension and material stress. The SRX (and Banpreios) are rather real-world feats of engineering on one particular aspect: they acknowledge there's a certain limit to the height/weight ratio before materials wear out. And they combat that through ... well, I guess you really could call it sheer force of will, I guess - right?

>>22617084
Citing both Bioman and Maskman them missing a member they have a hard time controlling the Robot. In Bioman's case they have 5 Bioman with 5 Bio Brains forming strategies and piloting Bio Robo. Yellow 4 got killed they had a hard time piloting Bio Robo. In Maskman's Great Five case with Pink Mask out of commission they had a problem, controlling it as Pink Mask was in charge of one of Great Five's subsystems.

Jetman as posted by OP can individually pilot Great Icarus and Jet Garuda.

The robot Carnival shiort "A Tale of Two Robots" is a pretty funny take on how different pilots can operate a robot together. The english dub is especisially funny for its racist ass accents they gave to the characters

>>22627844
forgot the links

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdO<wbr>ieEsk918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdq<wbr>hD5NAv9w

In Voltes V Legacy, Steve pilots the robot, Mark sometimes uses the Choudenji String and Top, Bert is responsible for the weapon recommendations, Jon takes care of app and program management, and Jamie keeps tab on health and vital signs of the pilots.

>>22617084
You know you live in a real world that has many configurations of crew operated vehicles and heavy equipment right?
I imagine it would just be simple divions of labor and tasks.
>steering
>weapons/targeting
>mechanical systems
>communication/navigational systems
Etc
>>22617092
Lol I want to see some gritty serious battletech mech running like a game of QWOP and shitting itself

>>22617084
Like these anons
>>22617091
>>22625642
say, SRX is a great example (probably because it is formed by Real-esque robots). Logistically it would be very difficult for one pilot to manage all the parts, functions and weapons a mega machine like a combining robot would have, so distributing the workload among multiple people makes sense.
Ryusei does the main movement, Rai manages the Weapons and keeps the Tronium engine from blowing the fuck up when he raises its output and Aya is needed to hold the thing together at all.
I think some anime also leave the possibility of letting one of the side pilots take over for the main one when they react faster or the main pilot cant operate for some reason.
Having all the team members control limbs separately sounds like a nightmare though, not impossible, but you wouldnt want that.

I just want to post some of the Combat Armors from Dougram as they very explicitly transition from early two-man jobs like the Gunner type mecha, to one-man jobs like the Dougram itself and Soltic, to two-man machines once again in the form of the Blockhead, and later Bigfoot and Cabarov models.

The Blizzard Gunner also boasts multiple cockpits.

>>22617084
Same way complicated vehicles are managed by crews IRL

And of course the conventional forces used in Dougram are predominantly made up of multi-man attack helicopters, a smattering of different IFVs, etc.

>>22625663
Banpreios is perma-combined in Alpha 3 so I think Mai and Aya are even more extra juice for the psychic bullshit weapons instead of mainly keeping the legs from falling off

>>22617084
Reminds me of this song about them bickering over who gets to be the head when they combine.

https://youtu.be/EMgsAD3D948?si=sHT<wbr>XoQpWZcW084wX

>>22628664
Doesn't Mark have communications or something?
I love the last part. Jamie gets a lot of screen time talking about the emotional health of the pilots, which makes sense since they're all teenagers (and child).

Was there ever a crossover combination that shoved like 10+ people into the cockpit?

>>22633204
Dairugger's the closest I can think of with 15 components, but I've not actually watched it to know how many of them (if any) actually share a cockpit after combining, though I presume none

>>22617084
In the Gintama Star Wars parody arc, there is one pilot for the crotch area as well.

>>22617091
If I remember right, in Dai-Guard, Akagi controled the mech's movement, Aoyama controled the power output for attacks and activated the special weapons, and Ibuki was the navigator, kept track of Dai-Guard's damage and analized the enemy and battlefield.

>>22617092
>One works the anus
How many mechas canonicaly poop?

In "Mech-X4" the jobs are really unbalanced. The hero kid controls the action -- the mech copies his movements one for one. Another kids handles weapons -- that is, he just calls up and provides the weapons for the hero kid to use. A third kid handles defense, same deal -- he calls up and provides the shields and such for the hero kid to use. And the last kid is the mechanic, who has basically nothing to do on the command bridge, he just goes crawling around inside the robot to fix things that have been damaged.

Basically, hero kid gets all the glory, weapons kid and defenses kid are his caddys, and mechanic kid is relegated to plumbing.

>>22628926
>Banpreios is perma-combined in Alpha 3 so I think Mai and Aya are even more extra juice for the psychic bullshit weapons instead of mainly keeping the legs from falling off

Someday I want to see the component mecha of Banpreioth. You can see their elements in there, ugh I just wanna see themmmmmm!

In some tokusatsu shows, it seems like all the pilots have to synchronize all their movements in order to do things.

In Dangaioh, the three girls were superpowered and the guy was useless... Until they were in the robot. Then the girls were useless and the guy was a hot-blooded mecha pilot hero.

In Dancouga, Shinobu was normally the one in control and the other three handled subsystems (and, vitally, all four of them were needed in order to provide enough lifeforce or ki or whatever to maintain the combined form). They could switch controllers though -- Ryo Shiba was the best martial artist, so sometimes he'd take over so Dancouga could do giant robot kung fu.


Why did they go the stupid pandering route with Try after the original BF was a hit with multiple romantic subplots for multiple characters with zero love triangles/harem slop?

I thought Build Fighters fans mainly simped for Rinko.

>>22643599
>slop
opinion discarded, this is now a ZZ thread

>>22643662
There can be only one imouto.

>>22643599
The first series was a random project they decided to fund with no real expectations. It was mostly a love letter to the franchise as a whole. It also became wildly successful and spurred a massive amount of gunpla sales. Executives saw the massive profit and immediately began demanding more, and the follow up got focus grouped/executive meddled until nothing that made the original such a joy to watch remained.

>>22643727
Says Gundam's objectively most replaceable loli

>>22644465
>gets replaced with herself
heh, nothin personel

>>22643660
Hear me out: Roux is the best pilot in ZZ, just not the strongest Newtype.

>>22643611
We do. But Rinko is also extremely popular with people who haven't even seen Build Fighters.

>>22643599
I dunno. Are we ready to finally admit Try sucked compared to Build Divers?

>>22647862
Who cares if Piece of Shit A is more or less shitty than Piece of Shit B? They're both shit.
Build Fighters > ReRise >>>> Everything else

>>22643599
Because Try shit the bed so unbelievably hard with the lead and the overall story that they desperately tried to go the harem route in hopes of luring in pathetic losers.

It only partially worked. Goddamn. Try was so fucking bad it killed the entire Build universe.

>>22644463
Loser suits who want to be associated with success swooped in and fucked it up. Got it.

>>22647874
Don't. Don't do that thing where you throw everything under the bus to protect absolute shit.
It makes every single thing you say mean nothing because you openly state that you're just want to talk shit and don't particularly care about it.

>>22647862
I've always said Try sucked, it sucked while it was airing and it sucks now
>compared to Build Divers
I know it wasn't perfect but <s>I ended up liking a lot of things in Divers and came out of it rather positively, spoke to the MMO player in me and gave me some slight Log Horizon vibes, wasn't anything spectacular but it's far from the dumpster fire people make it out to be</s>

>>22649898
Honestly, Divers definitely tried to appeal more to fans than simply sell a product, but it still felt like a hollow gesture, due to the blandness of the MC, and the meandering plot that always felt like it was TRYING to go somewhere but never did, until the lat few episodes where the writers suddenly realized they're running out of episodes and needed to wrap things up.

I will say that the Team Battles were significantly more fun to watch than the bullshit that Build Fighters Try tried to call team battles, where 99% of the time it was the writers bending over backwards to write everyone else out of the fight so it could end on a 1v1 slugfest between Sekai and the Rival of the Week, despite marketing Try as a series with three protagonists, with a major focus on Team Battles. That was arguably the biggest lie about Try that they tried to sell to their audience.

>>22643599
my dumbass thought these were symphogear girls at first from the thumbnail

>>22649955
I never got the impression Divers was hollow, just kind of flaccid. Had some nice... whatever the animation equivalent of choreography is, at least.


What's the content that usually gets cut in Muv Luv Alternative ports?

Was wondering if the Steam version (the only one I've read) had cut content or not. There was a <s>tentacle rape scene</s> that I found somewhat out of place which made me wonder if steam has the original content or if it had been toned back.

I get how that scene contributes to the story but I can also imagine it being seen as "icky" or tasteless. Is there worse that I'm missing out on?

>>22646946
yeah, gratuitous gore that's actually important to the story

>>22646997
I definetly saw gore in the steam version
<s>Marimo getting chomped</s>
<s>Tama and Suzumiya getting cut in half</s>

>>22646946
Wait, which tentacle rape scene you've seen? There are 2 ones

>>22647014
My ass assumed steam would cut that out if it had cut out lewds lol

>>22647182
The one that goes over <s>what the BETA did do Sumika in captivity. It was a still image of her with a bunch of them in her mouth</s> so evidently they cut one. What did I miss?

The west is more tolerant of gore than it is sex I think

>>22647238
jesus fuck I did not expect this image here of all places what the hell

>>22647014
<s>Suzumiya wasn't cut in half, she was beheaded.</s>
Other than that, >>22646946, not really much is cut. I mean, the <s>tentacle rape scene is still there, but it just shows Sumika's face rather than the whole deal.</s>

>>22647297
ah ok. Call me a prude but I'm fine with what I got lol

>>22647238
>What did I miss?
Sumika's <s>futa cock and dicknipples</s>

>>22650503
I'm surprised with myself I didn't fap to this considering I had been quite the coomer when I was reading Muv-Luv