Trump seeks to blame Biden for potential TikTok ban

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https://thehill.com/policy/technolo<wbr>gy/4612396-trump-seeks-to-blame-bid<wbr>en-for-potential-tiktok-ban/

Former President Trump is casting blame on President Biden for legislation that could potentially ban TikTok in the U.S., after the bill cleared the House last weekend as part of a larger foreign aid package.

“Just so everyone knows, especially the young people, Crooked Joe Biden is responsible for banning TikTok,” Trump said in a Truth Social post Monday.

Trump’s opposition to a potential TikTok ban represents a significant shift from the position he held while he was in office. The former president issued an executive order in 2020 seeking to force TikTok’s Chinese parent company, ByteDance, to sell its U.S. assets, though the order was later blocked in court.

The TikTok bill, which now heads to the Senate alongside legislation for long-sought aid to Ukraine and Israel, would require ByteDance to sell the app within roughly a year or face a U.S. ban.

While Biden has signaled support for the measure, Trump has come out against the potential TikTok ban, claiming it would benefit Facebook.

“[Biden] is the one pushing it to close, and doing it to help his friends over at Facebook become richer and more dominant, and able to continue to fight, perhaps illegally, the Republican Party,” Trump said Monday.

“It’s called ELECTION INTERFERENCE!” he continued. “Young people, and lots of others, must remember this on November 5th, ELECTION DAY, when they vote! They also must remember, more importantly, that he is destroying our Country, and is A MAJOR THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!”

Facebook banned Trump in January 2021 in the wake of the Capitol riots, during which hundreds of his supporters attempted to stop the certification of the 2020 election results. The former president spent months spreading false claims about the election on social media in the lead-up to the attack on the Capitol.

Meta, Facebook’s parent company, reinstated Trump’s account last year. Trump also met with Jeffrey Yass, a major investor in TikTok and a GOP donor, before announcing his opposition to the ban, but said the summit had nothing to do with his decision.

who cares, that dude is going to lose the election and go broke and go to jail

I'd pay money to watch someone ask this retard why banning TikTok was good when he tried it in 2020 but bad now.<br>He'll lie of course, like he does any time he opens his mouth, but it would still be funny.

>>1289298
This, the only reason he's against it now is one of his billionaire owners, Jeff Yass is a big shareholder and Trump was ordered to be against the ban after his big bribeapolza fest at his child sex trafficking resort
Trump also promised he'd give massive tax cuts to all the other billionaires funding him.

>>1289323
>after his big bribeapolza fest at his child sex trafficking resort
What is this?

>>1289339
Trump suddenly did an about face on wanting to ban TikTok, which he tried to do while president, after meeting with a major TikTok shareholder.
He did this at at Mar-A-Lago, a resort Trump owns where he and notorious child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein used to party. A resort which Rudy Giuliani confirmed contains secret underground tunnels to nearby properties, one of which Epstein owned.
Someone who doesn't get paid to run defense for child raping billionaires might infer the TikTok shareholder gave him a bunch of money to change his mind about banning TikTok at this resort where a known child sex trafficker partied at.
Someone who gets paid to run defense for child raping billionaires, and most likely also has a sexual attraction to children, would of course bristle at this and try to deflect or discredit this theory.
Hence, his big bribeapolza fest at his child sex trafficking resort

>>1289347
Also Trump was magically given 50 million dollars from the billionaires during this.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru<wbr>mps-palm-beach-fundraiser-joined-me<wbr>lania-trump-rakes/story?id=10894948<wbr>9

And as part of a clear quid pro quot for the kickbacks, he sad he'd cut their taxes more.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/10/poli<wbr>tics/trump-2017-tax-cuts-rich/index<wbr>.html

>>1289347
>>1289351
>Maddow-tier schizoposting
It's like it's really 2017 all over again

>>1289426
>he's referencing obscure cable tv hosts again
When did this board become overrun with boomers?

>>1289351
Better than billions to the jews, who rape kids, or more money to turn kids into fags for jews to rape.
Honestly, it's pretty mild corruption considering most Democrats are jews who rape kids and billions are generated and used in an attempt to rape kids, by the jews.

>>1289446
No it isn't better, it's actually much much worse

>>1289446
Genuine question - how did you get this indoctrinated? What happened to you?

>>1289481
Your future involves self-immolation.

ByteDance, TikTok shelled out $7 million on lobbying and ads to combat potential U.S. ban
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/23/byt<wbr>edance-tiktok-spent-over-7-million-<wbr>on-lobbying-ad-campaign-.html
 TikTok and its China-based parent company ByteDance combined to spend over $7 million so far this year to try and stall legislation that, if signed into law, could ban the social media app in the United States.
 ByteDance alone spent a record $2.68 million on in-house TikTok lobbyists to target Congress and federal officials over the first three months of the year.
 The disclosures show how TikTok officials lobbied Congress and President Joe Biden’s executive office last quarter.

If the bill passes and receives Biden’s signature this week — the president has already voiced his support for the overall measure — you won’t immediately lose access to TikTok.

Should the bill pass and be signed as-is, ByteDance would have 270 days to divest TikTok. The company could receive an additional 90 days if necessary, as long as there is a sale in progress.

If ByteDance doesn’t divest within that time frame, the ban would likely kick in sometime between January and April of 2025. At that time, TikTok would no longer be available in the Google Play Store or Apple’s App Store, and you wouldn’t be able to update the app.

Users have found ways around similar bans, like using a VPN, USA Today reported. The situation may not reach that point, though. It’s likely that the ban, should it pass, would face legal challenges that could delay the 270 (or 360) day timeframe ByteDance would have to divest.
https://thehill.com/homenews/nexsta<wbr>r_media_wire/4615349-when-could-the<wbr>-proposed-tiktok-ban-take-effect/

>>1289516
>The disclosures show how TikTok officials lobbied Congress and President Joe Biden’s executive office last quarter.
Ahhh so that's why Joe's doing it. The bribery gains.

>>1289290
for once i agree with alzheimer joe. tiktok is brain rot. possibly weaponized brain rot.

>If I suggest banning tiktok it's a great idea
>If Biden suggests it, it's a terrible idea
Brainrot

>>1289636
He does have a point.
Democrats only destroy.
While Republicans build.

>>1289636
He's right you know you fucking liberal

>>1289339
It's called TDS.

>>1289636
But that's actually happening. The same thing is happening with tariffs on China. Trump was very bad racist piss baby for that, but Biden is doing it and he's protecting American interests?

>>1289692
>Trump was very bad racist piss baby for that, but Biden is doing it and he's protecting American interests?
Really bad comparison. Tariffs can be good depending on how you use them. The argument was never that Trump was bad for simply using tariffs. Every president uses tariffs. He was criticized for how poorly he utilized them and how broadly he tried to use tariffs to leverage extremely complicated trade economics. He was also criticized for lying to his supporters and telling them that tariffs were forcing China to give more money to the U.S. when in fact, American consumers were bearing the cost of the tariffs. His agriculture tariffs were so bad he had to drum up $12 billion to bail out American farmers. He then went on the campaign trail bragging about how he took billions of dollars from China to help struggling farmers when he was the one who caused the struggle and American tax payers, not China, funded the bailouts. The differences are night and day.

>>1289715
>American consumers were bearing the cost of the tariffs.

The same old tired Wall Street argument against correcting the wildly outrageous trade imbalance between the U.S. and China.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a0/c<wbr>a/e3/a0cae328c86353952d420c18f47de0<wbr>e7.jpg

As for TicToc, my understanding is that the call to ban the website is being driven by Israel, as TicToc refuses to censor anti-Jewish/Israel posts like American social media sites do.

>>1289635
i don't buy apple products
>>1289636
american politics in a nutshell

>>1289753
>As for TicToc, my understanding is that the call to ban the website is being driven by Israel, as TicToc refuses to censor anti-Jewish/Israel posts like American social media sites do.

Evidence?

>>1289843
https://jewishreviewofbooks.com/for<wbr>eign-policy/15881/israels-tiktok-pr<wbr>oblem/
>Protecting Americans from TikTok’s political influence would be a gain to Israel’s standing with its most important ally. One month after the October 7 Hamas attack, TikTok videos with hashtags like #freepalestine were watched by Americans about fifty times more than pro-Israel ones. Although the app’s users skew young and hence leftward, their politics probably don’t account for the ratio. Researchers at Rutgers and the Network Contagion Research Institute compared TikTok and Instagram (which has a similar demographic) and found that although Instagram has only twice the number of politically themed posts generally, it had six times more pro-Israel and anti-Hamas posts than TikTok.

>>1289692
What is the annual salary for being a Trump simp?

>>1289298
>>1289298
>>1289298

It was only banned for FEDERAL EMPLOYEES dumbass. Then Biden reversed it, then he banned it again a few months later.

>>1289659
>>1289659
>>1289659

Yeah, like how Republicans build.. walls around abortion clinics lol.

>>1289860
>what if he forgot he already did


Tucker Carlson Completely Dismisses Darwin’s Theory of Evolution

Tucker Carlson rejected Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution in a recent interview on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.

During a discussion on AI, in which Carlson called the technology a threat to humanity, the conversation turned to the topic of evolution as Joe Rogan pushed back on some of Carlson’s AI concerns.

“Maybe a good use of nuclear weapons would be to hit the data centers,” Carlson said at one point.

As Rogan laughed at the idea, Carlson added, “No, I’m serious. Why is that crazy?”

“It’s not if you think that human beings are the end of this evolutionary chain,” Rogan said.

The comedian later made reference to “evolution” again, leading to Carlson rejecting it.

“If evolution is real and if there is this constant —” Rogan began as Carlson jumped in.

“Is it real?” the former Fox News host said.

“I don’t know…It’s visible. You can measure it in certain animals,” Rogan said.

Carlson argued you can measure “adaptation.”

Part of Darwin’s theory of evolution is that species adapt to their environments and, through time and natural selection, evolve.

“But there’s no evidence that — in fact, I think we’ve kind of given up on evolution, the theory of evolution as articulated by Darwin. It’s, like, kind of not true,” Carlson declared.

“In what sense?” Rogan asked.

“Well, in the most basic sense, the idea that all life emerged from a single-cell organism and over time there would be a fossil record of that, and there’s not,” Carlson said.

Rogan noted transitions can be seen in animal species, and Carlson again chalked this up to “adaptation” instead of evidence of evolution.

https://www.mediaite.com/podcasts/t<wbr>ucker-carlson-completely-dismisses-<wbr>darwins-theory-of-evolution-citing-<wbr>no-evidence-with-joe-rogan-its-not-<wbr>a-new-idea/

“There’s tons of records of adaptation and you see it in your own life. I mean, I have a lot of dogs. I see a lot of adaptations in dogs…but no, there’s no evidence at all, none, zero, that people evolved seamlessly from a single-cell ameba, no, there’s not. There’s not,” Carlson insisted. “There’s no chain in the fossil record of that at all. That’s why you don’t actually hear people — you hear them make reference to evolution because the theory of adaptation is clearly, obviously true, Darwin’s theory is totally — that’s why it’s still a theory almost 200 years later, you know?”

Asked for his own theory to counterbalance what he claims is a lack of evidence to back up evolution, Carlson cited God.

“God created people, you know, distinctly, and animals. I mean, I think that’s what every person on Earth thought until the mid-19th Century, actually. It’s not a new idea!” Carlson said.

Rogan pushed back on the age of the idea, backing it up as somehow true, arguing that people have a better “general understanding” of the world today thanks to major advancements in technology.

“Do you think we understand more now?” Carlson asked.

“Yes,” Rogan said.

Carlson broke with his friend again, declaring the world is more ignorant today because it tolerates the development of AI by “childless” software engineers.

“We understand way less,” he said. “We understand so little that we’re actually sitting here allowing, like, a bunch of greedy, stupid, childless, childless software engineers in northern California to, like, flirt with the extinction of mankind.”

Carlson faced a round of mockery on social media for his take on evolution from his usual critics, but once-ally Elon Musk added his voice to the chorus of critics agreeing with a post calling Carlson a “zealot.”

ITT we discuss the opinions of a shill, who got fired from cnn and fox, to the opinions of teams of scientists around the world whom are all in agreeance.

>>1289580
Nevermind this evolution thoughts. His ancient astronaut the theorist tangent was otherworldly to watch in person.

who knows wtf happened 100k years ago.. i mean the only thing that can really explain the platypus... aliens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creat<wbr>ed_kind

Not a particularly novel form of idiocy.

let's have a sword fight

2 talking intellectual heads like this aint my idea of a fun time.
I prefer, like the OP, the way the other kind of dumber heads communicate.
https://mygaysites.com/

Anonymous

>>1289580
carlson is playing dumb, trying to play the conservitards

That anyone could really believe something as complex as DNA (which we still have only an infant understanding of) could miraculously appear on its own out of nothing only speaks to the massive hubris of modern man.

i'd shake your hand, ma'am, but you look a little grimy

>>1289625
>trying to play the conservitards
Every wannabe fascist leader who wants $ and ego building has to pretend to be as dumb as the audience that they're trying to reach.
'A man of the people'

>>1289625
The only person dumber here is op interpreting extinction to mean a rejection of evolution

>>1289625
You really think he's lying about believing in creation?

>>1289645
i really don't care

uh, no wait, sorry i mean
I'M OuTRAGED HE OUGHT TO APOLOGIZE!!11!

>>1289655
If you don't care, then why bother responding?
Do you think Tucker is playing dumb and lying or not?

>>1289627
Nobody said DNA appeared out of nothing. They said all life evolved from a common origin. As you said, DNA is ridiculously complex and thus capable of mutating into all life after its appearance. To think otherwise would be to decry a miracle of nature.

>>1289656
Tucker Carlson's opinion is not news, therefore this is a shitposting thread.

>>1289670
>Nobody said DNA appeared out of nothing.
If you think there is no supreme being, then this IS what you believe. And you're honestly dumb for thinking it's even possible.

>>1289677
How did you get this misinformed?

>>1289679
Explain to me your third option.

>>1289677
>If you think there is no supreme being, then this IS what you believe
1. I do believe in God.
2. This was about evolution, not the origin of DNA. The theory of evolution has literally nothing to do with the origin of DNA. If you want to change this to an entirely different discussion because you're being completely blown out in this one, feel free. Do you believe God is incapable of creating something which can evolve, heretic?

>>1289680
DNA appeared via a combination of basal components which self organized via natural processes relating to attraction between matter in various environments and conditions. The same thing happened to those basal components beforehand, iterated all the way back to the beginning of the universe as we know it.

It's almost like reality is governed by physical laws or something.

>>1289681
>1. I do believe in God.
>2. This was about evolution,
Talk about some hairsplitting.
>>1289682
>DNA appeared via a combination of basal components which self organized via natural processes relating to attraction between matter in various environments and conditions.
Where's your proof though, faggot?

>>1289580
He's not wrong.
You can test and prove adaptive traits through breeding, but it's basically impossible to prove that evolution over millions of years is how life came to fruition.
Most of the arguments in support of evolution come from the fallacy that two things must be immediately related to each other if they bear similarities.

America has creationists. This is old news. He probably spent too much time around christcucks like Kent Hovid, Ray Comfort, or Ken Ham.

>>1289685
>Talk about some hairsplitting.
It's a scientific theory. Specificity is the entire god damn point.

And conflating the two is your basis for treating arguing for evolution as arguing against God. Fuck off.

>>1289685
>Where's your proof though, faggot?
Light from billions of years in the past actively reaching the earth as we speak.

Where's your proof?

>>1289632
OP posted the article and you still didnt even read it

>>1289695
It's not an article it's a dumb opinion piece. Literally no one cares what Tucker Carlson thinks, not even Tucker Carlson.

>>1289693
>And conflating the two is your basis for treating arguing for evolution as arguing against God.
It's just a piss poor argument. If you accept God exists already, then evolution was his creation, if it exists at all.

There's no reason to split that hair.

>>1289686
>>1289688
He is wrong though. He doesn’t understand evolution.

>>1289697
he has a large following and is influential among that following. him being retarded is news

that also doesnt address the person being incapable of reading one paragraph before sperging out in defense of Carlson

>>1289702
He basically plays a weird game of semantics by replacing the word "evolution" with "adaption" and then thinks the entire theory can be debunked because we don't have a fossil record of the first single-cell organism that life sprung from. Its like saying the big bang theory is false because we don't have a picture of the bang happening. It ignores the mountain of evidence that precedes the initial event which bolsters the theory. The issue is that he isn't wrong in the sense that the theory of evolution isn't iron-clad scientific fact and that their might be some other explanation but he has no intelligent engagement. His reasons for evolution being debunked make no sense.

>>1289580
Cucker Tardson doesnt believe that you can be religious and also believe in the theory of evolution as well. he's too deep into shill territory and is incapable of being honest.

when Joe fuckin Rogan makes you sound dumb, youre pretty fuckin dumb.

>>1289706
>Its like saying the big bang theory is false because we don't have a picture of the bang happening.
You don't have direct evidence of that happening, though. Just abductive reasoning using smaller theories as a stepping stool.
You're making unfalsifiable claims and treating everybody around you as retarded because they don't agree with you.

>>1289774
..this isn't science. You can't actually test or reproduce any of the bullshit you're claiming on the scale you think this happens.

>>1289776
should prevailing scientific theories apologize to you?

>>1289772
>You don't have direct evidence of that happening, though.
...genetics?

>>1289776
>You can't actually test or reproduce any of the bullshit you're claiming
What can't we test? Species exist. We can show they exist because of their genetics. We can show that various changes to genetics can be caused by random mutations which could account for all observed genetic variation (and in fact scientists deliberately cause random mutations all the time while studying genetics).

Seriously, what can't we test? That the thing that is provably physically possible and remains the best explanation for how various species came to be didn't happen? That's tantamount to saying the cops can't prove you killed someone because God might have planted semen matching your DNA in the raped corpse and it wasn't on camera. Even if we recreated an evolutionary split identical to one that already exists, you'd just say that doesn't prove the first split didn't happen.

Fundamentally your claim is not that evolution is impossible or that it doesn't account for all species on earth evolving from 1 or that it isn't the most likely explanation consistent with all observed physical evidence and processes, but that time travel doesn't exist. Fuck you.

>>1289790
>What can't we test?
Evolution being the origin of all life, over billions of years.
You can't even adequately define the parameters of your theory because we don't have a comprehensive understanding of evolutionary biology.

>>1289772
>You don't have direct evidence of that happening, though.
Saying the big bang didn't happen because we don't have a picture of it is a pants on head retarded argument. There's plenty of things we don't have direct evidence of that we substantiate through a series of other logical methods.

>You're making unfalsifiable claims and treating everybody around you as retarded because they don't agree with you.
Incorrect. I'm demanding intelligent engagement with the topic. I'm more than happy to hear and engage with differing opinions but if "Well, I didn't SEE it happening therefore its debunked" is all you have then I'm speaking to a toddler who knows nothing about scientific theory or how we build hypothesis.

>Just abductive reasoning using smaller theories as a stepping stool.
Yes, welcome to theory building 101.

>>1289810
>t. amateur 4chan scientist who hasn't been to school or studied on the topic but definitely knows more than the experts

>>1289813
You're right. Maybe I should've payed 90K a year to shout pro-hamas slogans and date communist chicks. That way I could've become an expert.

>>1289820
Do you find pivoting to random talking points that have nothing to do with the conversation an effective way to distract people from the fact that you have no clue what you're talking about? Hows that working for you?

>>1289700
But evolution isn't proven. That's not to say that I think evolution isn't plausible, but it's definitely not proven to be true.
No one has ever observed a creature that has evolved in the span of humanity's short history.
The science hasn't been proven that's why it's the "theory of" evolution.
Don't they teach you fucking faggots this shit in retard school?

>>1289821
>nothing to do with the conversation
School has nothing to do with becoming accredited? Really?

How many crayons did you need to eat before becoming an expert?

>>1289825
Unfalsifiable science isn't science, it's religion. Faggot.

>>1289824
>No one has ever observed a creature that has evolved in the span of humanity's short history.
Yes we have, numerous times. You just don't understand what that means.

https://now.northropgrumman.com/5-a<wbr>nimals-that-have-evolved-recently

>>1289846
>https://now.northropgrumman.com/5-<wbr>animals-that-have-evolved-recently
>5 Animals That Have Evolved Rapidly
>Guppies Adapted to Predators
>Green Anole Lizards Adapted to an Invasive Species
>Salmon Adapted to Human Interference
>Bedbugs Adapted to Pesticides
>Owls Adapted to Warmer Winters
Are you really this fucking retarded?

>>1289855
Imagine being this low IQ and bragging about it.

>>1289855
Like I said, you don't understand what evolution is.
Evolution is changes in populations due to natural selection.

>>1289810
>You can't even adequately define the parameters of your theory
Life forms reproduce and therefore have a tendency to become more numerous.
Factors such as predation and competition work against the survival of individuals.
Each offspring differs from their parent(s) in minor, random ways.
If these differences are beneficial, the offspring is more likely to survive and reproduce.
This makes it likely that more offspring in the next generation will have beneficial differences and fewer will have detrimental differences.
These differences accumulate over generations, resulting in changes within the population.
Over time, populations can split or branch off into new species.
These processes, collectively known as evolution, are responsible for the many diverse life forms seen in the world.

Also, thank you for admitting you simply object on the grounds that time travel is impossible. Eat all the dicks.

>>1289865
>Believing that any adaptation that life makes proves evolution
Jesus you are that fucking retarded, I guess. Goodluck faggot.

>>1289871
Are clothes proof of evolution too? How about shoes? Electricity and lights? Making tools? Is there anything that doesn't qualify as proof of evolution to you? Is there any chance you could lower that bar any more than you already have? Lying faggots.

>>1289868
nigga adaptation by natural selection IS evolution. That's what Darwin's theory was.

>>1289882
natural selection refers to adaptations in each generation from random mutations in the genome, not fucking clothes or technology dumbass.

However, humans have faced selection pressures due to civilization. One example is lactose tolerance, which spread from the Near East with the domestication of cattle and the regular consumption of cow milk and products like cheese.

>>1289884
>natural selection refers to adaptations in each generation from random mutations in the genome, not fucking clothes or technology dumbass.
So now you're arguing evolution is only changes in DNA? What DNA sequence changed to allow people to digest lactose? Isn't that purely gut bacteria that obviously has nothing to do with human DNA?

Or how about lets go to the previous examples given:
>https://now.northropgrumman.com/5-<wbr>animals-that-have-evolved-recently
>Guppies Adapted to Predators
>Resznick wanted to watch evolution happen in real time, so he experimented with changing the predators in guppies' environment. He moved one group of guppies to a stream without predators to see if they would thrive, and added predatory fish called cichlids to guppy sites that previously didn't have predators.
>In just four years, or six to eight guppy generations, the guppies adapted to their new environments. The group in the stream without predators were larger, matured later and reproduced slower. The guppies who lived with cichlids matured at an earlier age and produced more babies.
How is that an example of DNA changing over time, lying faggot?

>>1289891
>What DNA sequence changed to allow people to digest lactose?

>Some people are also more genetically likely to be lactose intolerant than others. Located on Chromosome 2, the LCT gene contains instructions for making the enzyme lactase. People with a functioning LCT gene produce lactase and can process dairy foods without unpleasant symptoms.

>>1289846
That's not evolution.
Once again, I'm going to need you to redo retard school, you stupid fucking faggot.
Every animal that adapted in that article is still the same animal.

>>1289891
>How is that an example of DNA changing over time, lying faggot?
What do you think governs size, rate of growth, and fecundity?

"DNA changing" in the context of natural selection refers to the frequency of alleles appearing in a population.

Natural selection is a part of evolution, but it does not create new genes. It alters the frequency of genes passed down. Mutation is ALSO a part of natural selection and is how new genes arise, which are then selected for or against by natural selection.

>>1289897
>What do you think governs size, rate of growth, and fecundity?
Behavior and environment, fuckhead.

Humans that don't get proper nutrition don't grow normally compared to ones that do. That doesn't mean there's a relevant genetic difference between them.

>>1289896
...I wasn't making a correlative argument. This is a biochemical process that we know the intricacies of. This shit is purely causative.

Do you have brain damage?

>>1289899
>This is a biochemical process that we know the intricacies of.
This is an unfalsifiable assumption, like most of your pathetic beliefs.

>>1289898
>Behavior and environment, fuckhead.
Partially, yes.

>Humans that don't get proper nutrition don't grow normally compared to ones that do. That doesn't mean there's a relevant genetic difference between them.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/<wbr>article/how-much-of-human-height/
>This question can be rephrased as: "How much variation (difference between individuals) in height is attributable to genetic effects and how much to nutritional effects?" The short answer to this question is that about 60 to 80 percent of the difference in height between individuals is determined by genetic factors, whereas 20 to 40 percent can be attributed to environmental effects, mainly nutrition.

Serious question: Do you think chihuahuas and huskies have different sizes due to diet and environment?

>>1289900
Genes can be turned on and off in a lab setting. No it isn't. We're literally talking about how cells produce enzymes and what those enzymes do to other chemicals they come in contact with. This isn't debate. You're just wrong.

>>1289905
>https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-<wbr>
>He says North Korean men are, on average, between 3 - 8cm (1.2 - 3.1in) shorter than their South Korean counterparts.
>A difference is also obvious between North and South Korean children.
>"The height gap is approximately 4cm (1.6in) among pre-school boys and 3cm (1.2in) among pre-school girls, and again the South Koreans would be taller."
>Schwekendiek points out that the height difference cannot be attributed to genetics, because the two populations are the same.

>>1289907
My bad, I fucked up the link.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-1<wbr>7774210

>>1289907
>>1289908
What even is your point? I'm not the one claiming nutrition can't contribute to changes in size.

Also, YOUR OWN FUCKING SOURCE IS POINTING OUT THAT GENETICS HAS TO BE RULED OUT BECAUSE IT CAN IMPACT SIZE.

>>1289911
>What even is your point? I'm not the one claiming nutrition can't contribute to changes in size.
>>1289897
>What do you think governs size, rate of growth, and fecundity?
>>1289898
>Behavior and environment, fuckhead.
Thanks for playing faggot.

>>1289895
>Evolution is the change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.[1][2] It occurs when evolutionary processes such as natural selection and genetic drift act on genetic variation, resulting in certain characteristics becoming more or less common within a population over successive generations.[3] The process of evolution has given rise to biodiversity at every level of biological organisation.[4][5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolu<wbr>tion

>>1289916
>Thanks for playing faggot.
>That doesn't mean there's a relevant genetic difference between them.
Thanks for playing, fuckhead.

Also, if you're saying only behavior and environment control size, rate of growth, and fecundity (which you are), both our sources say you're wrong.

>>1289953
>Also, if you're saying only behavior and environment control size, rate of growth, and fecundity (which you are), both our sources say you're wrong.
No, I never said DNA doesn't affect those things. But I am saying behavior and conditions affect those things a lot more than DNA does. It doesn't matter what DNA you have; if you don't eat you don't grow. If you don't seek out reproduction, you don't procreate. So when you link somebody else saying something as retarded as
>The short answer to this question is that about 60 to 80 percent of the difference in height between individuals is determined by genetic factors, whereas 20 to 40 percent can be attributed to environmental effects, mainly nutrition.
Where do these bullshit numbers come from exactly?

Big bang created all the material, space, and time itself
but somehow a few wallmart sharters is too "complex"
>where is the shart record?
indeed where is it
why didnt big bang lay out a complete shart record of every sharter that crawled out of earth's mega anus?
why is reality soooo inconvenient

Creationists never talk about DNA
>Why is that?

https://phys.org/news/2024-04-vast-<wbr>dna-tree-life-revealed.html

>>1289968
>Creationists never talk about DNA
I literally used to work in a lab processing DNA samples. For about 10 years. Most of you silly faggots don't know you can see DNA with the naked eye.

>>1289968
What's there to talk about? God created DNA. Shocker.

>>1289972
The code proves inheritance, evolution, etc.

>>1289971
Processing them how? Fotr what?

>>1289975
I worked at a government fish hatchery doing "conservation biology", otherwise known as milking taxpayers and wasting fucking time. The goal was ostensibly to prevent specific endangered species (of fish and amphibians) from going extinct. The reality was we killed more "endangered" fish than anything else. There's a reason animals never make it off the "endangered" list.

In order to maintain appropriate genetic diversity they needed constant sampling. They also used this information for hybridization with other species. Which is actually usually how they "keep them alive" - by selectively breeding them with another species that isn't endangered.

>>1289979
Every once in a while we would have a facility-wide "Fish Fry" - everybody loved those and they would make a nice potluck out of it.

Thanks for the fish, faggots.

>>1289971
>Most of you silly faggots don't know you can see DNA with the naked eye.
I can, you blind ass bitch.

>>1289979
>government fish hatchery
>conservation biology

Pick one

>>1290032
Do you know somebody else that pays billions of dollars to keep fish alive?

>>1289866
You could use this argument to justify why cryptids and other fantasy creatures exist, which would be equally retarded.

>>1290074
>You could use this argument to justify why cryptids and other fantasy creatures exist
You can't because they don't. The theory of evolution explains where species that exist came from. It doesn't say any particular species must exist or have existed except for the first life and the intermediate species between it and modern life.

Now if some random cryptid actually does turn out to exist and stop being a cryptid, then evolution would explain where it came from...but so would literally any theory of the origin of life? Nothing says gods or aliens can't make yetis within the theories that hold them up as the origins of life. So I'm not sure how the fuck your angle of attack is supposed to work.

Course I suppose in theory some god could have created chupacabras, aliens created elves, and everything else evolved naturally, but
1. I would wager any life we discover going forward will be shown to be related to and share a common origin with all currently known life.
and
2. Speculating about the origins of things not shown to exist is nonsensical.

>>1290089
>So I'm not sure how the fuck your angle of attack is supposed to work.
The theory of evolution asserts that two separate organisms must necessarily be associated with each other if they share similar physical characteristics.

If this assertion could be made by going backwards through time, then it could logically be made going forwards through time as well, by anticipating the evolution of fantasy creatures that have similar characteristics to those which already exist.

This is the natural consequence of a theory which is completely unfalsifiable. It isn't science, it's dogma.

>>1290104
>The theory of evolution asserts that two separate organisms must necessarily be associated with each other if they share similar physical characteristics.
No. It doesn't. Hence the phrase "independently evolved" as in "certain traits independently evolved several times", an example being red hair in humans. Glad we sorted that out.

>If this assertion could be made by going backwards through time
It isn't.

>This is the natural consequence of a theory
It isn't.

And again, if gods or aliens created humans then who is to say they couldn't later create dragons?

>>1290108
>Hence the phrase "independently evolved" as in "certain traits independently evolved several times", an example being red hair in humans.
But we're talking about evolution as the origin of contemporary life, right? Which means that all evolved creatures, predecessors and associated decedents must be necessarily associated with each other in some manner.
>And again, if gods or aliens created humans then who is to say they couldn't later create dragons?
I dunno m8 you're the kind of person who things a raptor could turn into a chicken. Your theory has just as much validity as young-earth creationism.

>>1290116
>Which means that all evolved creatures, predecessors and associated decedents must be necessarily associated with each other in some manner.
Yes which is not the bullshit you spouted which essentially amounted to "any creature imaginable could someday evolve" which doesn't account for natural selection or biological possibility.

>I dunno m8 you're the kind of person who things a raptor could turn into a chicken.
Raptors didn't turn into chickens. Their cousins did. Over the course of an unimaginable number of generations. And that's still less weird than the contagious tumor that evolved from dogs 11k years ago.

Are you saying God couldn't turn a raptor into a chicken? Or a rib into a woman?

>>1289580
If you believe in evolution you're an NPC, one of the sheepeople.

You just believe what they tell you.

Think for yourself.

>>1290667
imagine calling other people sheeple when you listen to Kent Hovind.

Schizoidberg

>>1289580
It's almost just arguing semantics at this point. Replace "evolution" with "adaptation" and it's the same thing. Tucker's a retard.

Anonymous

>>1289672
You got played, the other anon embarrassed you better luck next thread


Trump only wins 83% of the vote in an unopposed election

Nikki Haley wins 17% of vote in Pennsylvania GOP primary. Is it warning sign for Trump?

Nikki Haley garnered 17% of the vote in Pennsylvania’s Republican primary despite having dropped out over a month ago. Her double-digit performance in the swing state is seen by some as a potential warning sign for former President Donald Trump — the party’s presumptive nominee — who won 83% of the vote in the April 23 primary. “This is a huge red flag for the Trump campaign in a battleground state,” Republicans Against Trump, an anti-Trump political initiative, wrote in a post on X, formerly Twitter. “Many Republicans will never vote for Donald Trump.”

“She has 155,000 votes with 98% reported — nearly 2X the margin Trump lost the state by in 2020,” Kaivan Shroff, a Democratic commentator, wrote in a post on X. “Good news for Biden.” Haley performed particularly well in some counties surrounding Philadelphia in the closed primary, garnering nearly 25% in Montgomery, Delaware and Chester counties. “Trump is hemorrhaging votes in the Philadelphia suburbs,” Matthew McDermott, a Democratic strategist, wrote in a post on X, adding “Major red flags for Republicans.”

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/na<wbr>tion-world/national/article28797068<wbr>0.html

It's all happening!
>https://www.politico.com/news/2024<wbr>/02/07/haley-wins-nevada-primary-th<wbr>at-nets-no-delegates-00140036
Oh wait, no it isn't faggots.

>>1289763
nikki naley is an insane deranged warmonger that makes john mccain look sane

need naughty nikki's nice nylons near...NOW

>>1289781
ahhh sweet leggy milf deezi aunty nikki

......I CAME

Pennsylvania is fag country. It's not really shocking DC fags would vote for Nikjeet Halmeet considering they love establishment trash.

>>1289826
and yet Trump is going to need that "fag country" to have any chance of winning the general election. Not looking good

>>1289781
So basically she's just being a woman

>>1289836
He's a legend that you (and all botlibs in general) fear with a culturally long awaited victory and a master plan to winning so I have no doubt he'll win

>>1289839
Are the botlibs in the room now?

>>1289839
Turns out 17% of the far right Republican base don't want him.
Good luck stealing this election when a 1/5th of your base will vote against you.

Georgia Russia trumpet resolution 2009

Half anti Catholic dnc half Georgia Mexicans are invading trumpet finally dead like Pete Wilson’s gop

Russia is white USA under bad leadership and Georgia is Georgia other option for Isis USA is dnc is Ukraine West Berlin binky babies for poorer dumber USA with Zoroastrian handless thief Jews from Persia while USA attacks Gaza with Iran and then remakes , ok mostly Europe did it but with USA support, then remakes Israel into the last stand one state solution

Labrador and sha the anti Catholic Catholics and anti Shiite Shiites betray the USA

Can’t do better than I had things nor will USA ever be as good as post Cold War

Anonymous

>>1289887
Actually all elections are rigged. Sanders picked up the same 17% in the Penn primaries against Bidet.

>>1289931
Because the Russians didn't give them new talking points

>>1289889
This bot is broken. Why does /pol/ always send these here?
I feel insulted.

>{insert mindless pol/russian complaint here}


Arizona Republicans involved in Trump's attempt to steal the 2020 election officially charged

Those charged in the election fraud attempt to destroy US democracy for Trump included the state chair of the Republican party.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20<wbr>24-election/trumps-2020-fake-electo<wbr>rs-charged-state-crimes-arizona-rcn<wbr>a149214

A state grand jury in Arizona on Wednesday indicted so-called "fake electors" who backed then-President Donald Trump in 2020, following a sprawling investigation into the alleged efforts to overturn Joe Biden’s win in the presidential election in the state.

One month after the 2020 election, 11 Trump supporters convened at the Arizona GOP’s headquarters in Phoenix to sign a certificate claiming to be Arizona’s 11 electors to the Electoral College, though Biden won the state by 10,457 votes and his electors were certified by state officials. The state Republican Party documented the signing of the certificate in a social media post and sent it to Congress and the National Archives.

Among those charged is Kelli Ward, who served as chair of the Arizona GOP during the 2020 election and the immediate aftermath. She tweeted on Jan. 6, 2021, after the attack on the U.S. Capitol: “Congress is adjourned. Send the elector choice back to the legislatures.” Ward was a consistent propagator of false claims that Arizona’s election results were rigged.

Others charged include: state legislators Anthony Kern and Jake Hoffman; Michael Ward, Kelli Ward’s husband; Tyler Bowyer, the Republican National Committee's Arizona committeeman and the chief operating officer of the Trump-aligned Turning Point USA; Greg Safsten, the former Arizona GOP executive director; former U.S. Senate candidate Jim Lamon; Robert Montgomery, the former head of the Cochise County GOP; and Republican Party activists Samuel Moorhead, Nancy Cottle and Loraine Pellegrino.

>The indictment lists Trump as "Unindicted Coconspirator 1." It also includes redacted names of other people who have been charged in the case but have not yet been served.

Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes, a Democrat, led the investigation. She won her election to be the state’s chief prosecutor in November 2022, replacing Republican Mark Brnovich, a one-time ally of Trump who later earned the former president’s scorn for not substantiating Trump’s claims of election fraud in the state.

"We conducted a thorough and professional investigation over the past 13 months into the fake electors scheme in our state," Mayes said in a video announcing the charges. "I understand for some of you today didn't come fast enough. And I know I'll be criticized by others for conducting this investigation at all. But as I've stated before, and we'll say here again, today, I will not allow American democracy to be undermined."

The Arizona charges are the latest example of Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election sprouting into legal cases during his 2024 bid to retake office.

Arizona was one of seven states where “alternate electors” signed paperwork falsely claiming Trump had won the state. “Alternate electors” in Nevada, Georgia and Michigan have already been charged by prosecutors in their respective states.

Attorney Kenneth Chesebro, one of the planners of the alleged scheme, pled guilty last year in Georgia on conspiracy charges brought against him, Trump and 17 others in the state. He is also believed to be one of the unidentified co-conspirators described by Special Counsel Jack Smith in his federal election interference indictment of Trump last year.

Chesebro and others, including Trump legal adviser John Eastman, argued in the months after the 2020 election that then-Vice President Mike Pence could use the existence of the alternate electors to name Trump the winner of the election as he presided over the electoral vote count in Congress on Jan. 6.

Eastman wrote in a memo: “At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States. … There are at this point 232 votes for Trump, 222 votes for Biden. Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected.”

Trump lost Arizona by just under 11,000 votes. As the Republican electors sent illegitimate certifications to Washington, Trump sought to put pressure on Maricopa County officials and other Arizona Republicans, including then-state House Speaker Rusty Bowers and then-Gov. Doug Ducey.

Trump placed a phone call directly to Ducey as the governor certified the state’s election results. Ducey muted the call.

Mayes’ term as Arizona attorney general has been marked by other election cases stemming from Trump’s false claims about fraud in the 2020 election and after.

Last fall, Mayes charged two local officials who delayed the certification of midterm election results in 2022 in Cochise County. The officials voted against certifying the county’s election results by the statutory deadline, after airing baseless accusations about the integrity of the election for months. The county certified its election results only after a court ordered it to do so.

>>1289746
>Maricopa County
The new Tammany Hall.

>>1289749
i see you've never heard of the 17th amendment

>>1289752
I wonder if all the Berniebros in 2016 who were crying at the Maricopa County primary election audits being rigged have even a second of self-reflection in this moment. I would guess not; no inner monologue.

>>1289754
i can't wait until your next failed coup

Gee i wonder why everyone thinks the election was stolen.. youd think the most safest and secure election could stand up tp a lil scrutiny... but no. everyone to jail. directly to jail. dont questions our crimes. blame the old golfer man who has no power at all...

>>1289758
>Gee i wonder why everyone thinks the election was stolen
They don't. When their emails leak or they're put under oath, they're shown to not to.

What they think is that saying the election was stolen was an avenue through which they could steal the election. And if we let people get away with shit like that instead of throwing them in jail for undermining the peaceful transition of power, our elections really will be at risk.

But don't worry, their crimes will be questioned at trial before their inevitable prison sentences. This process will be open and honest, just like the election.

>>1289760
>they're shown to not to.
lol
>What they think is that saying the election was stolen was an avenue through which they could steal the election.
LoL!

>>1289761
Keep propping up your jokers with your money and votes.
Because while you laugh at posts on 4chins, the country, more specifically the courts, laugh at you people.

>>1289758
Literally no one has gone to jail though and no one said they couldn't talk about the election being rigged

>>1289760
>They don't. When their lives are threatened with destruction, they usually change their minds to avoid being imprisoned and tortured.
FTFY

Doubleplus ungood comrade. Heil Biden.

>>1289749
Republicans should change their party emblem to sour grapes.

>>1289786
No one but the delusional believe that narrative.
You've outed yourself as one of the crazies.

>>1289792
Try to rig November 2024 and find out if you end up losing again trannycrat

>>1289807
I'm rigging it right now, transervative.

>>1289807
Why are you projecting so much after you rigged 2016 and 2020.
And STILL lost in 2020. LOL

>>1289815
They just didn't rig it hard enough in 2020 :)

>>1289807
with the way the Republican party is imploding and sabotaging each of their candidates, they are already rigging against themselves.

>>1289840
Who is "They" supposed to be this time?

>>1289849
Republicans, they just dropped all pretenses and staged a coup that year.

So to keep track
Michigan: Only charged the fake electors
Arizona: Charged the fake electors and those who coordinated it
Georgia: Charged the fake electors, those who coordinated it and the ring leader

>>1290102
Maybe don't try to steal the election with fake electors?

>>1290079
>Georgia: case is falling apart because the DA had an affair with the prosecutor and appointed the prosecutor knowing she'd receive financial kickbacks from him in exchange for letting him prosecute the case

FTFY


Some migrants flown by DeSantis to Martha’s Vineyard qualify for victim visas, feds say

Some of the 49 migrants flown to Martha’s Vineyard by the state of Florida are now able to legally work in the United States and have temporary protections from deportation — because they are considered victims of a potential crime, their attorney says. The migrants are eligible for protections because they applied for a special kind of visa meant for crime victims who are helping law enforcement in the investigation of suspected criminal activity. They applied for what are known as U visas last year after they said they had been tricked into taking charter flights from San Antonio, Texas to the Massachusetts island with false promises of jobs and other aid, said Rachel Self, an attorney for the migrants. The migrant flight program — a taxpayer-funded operation led by Gov. Ron DeSantis and a politically connected private contractor — was designed to remove “unauthorized aliens” from Florida. But critics, including immigration advocacy groups, have pointed out that the migrants had legal status in the United States as asylum seekers and that they were found in Texas, not Florida. DeSantis has maintained the flights were conducted lawfully and that migrants boarded the flights “voluntarily.” Yet the recruitment tactics used in the first iteration of the governor’s migrant relocation program have resulted in a criminal investigation by the Bexar County sheriff in Texas and a federal lawsuit by some of the migrants who have claimed they were deceived by the state. Now, some of the migrants have been granted U visas, which are “set aside for victims of certain crimes who have suffered mental or physical abuse and are helpful to law enforcement or government officials in the investigation or prosecution of criminal activity,” according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. They can eventually lead to permanent lawful status in the United States.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/po<wbr>litics-government/state-politics/ar<wbr>ticle287896095.html

The migrants — who were from Venezuela and Peru — were eligible to apply for the visas after Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar, a Democrat, certified that they were victims of a crime. After waiting for more than a year, some migrants earlier this month received “bona fide determinations” in their U visa petition, a status that allows them to obtain temporary work permits and protects them from deportation until their visa becomes available, Self said. It was not immediately clear how many migrants had received that status from the federal government. Congress only allows the federal government to issue 10,000 such visas each year. The “bona fide determination” gives the migrants targeted by the state of Florida temporary protections from deportation while they wait for the visa. DeSantis’ office did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the development.

Well that sure backfired hard on DeSantis. To think some idiot Republicans (redundant, I know) were actually hoping this guy would be the successor to Trump. Nah, he manages to somehow be even more incompetent than Trump already is. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to think you're going to "epically own" the liberals by letting migrants into the country? Republicans are the kings of shooting themselves in the foot.

>>1289366
It's over. Desantis is finished.

>>1289373
They're political pawns.
Fla. needs construction workers and will hire them now tat they're legal

>>1289368
he didnt let them in.. hr shipped em out. but your point stands.

>>1289383
Doubt they'll want to go back to that third world shithole

>>1289373
I recall a Trump aide telling DeSantis to drop out of the primary race otherwise Trump would destroy him so badly that he wouldn't even be viable in 2028. And in think its true, DeSantis seems just like a little evil antisocial man in lifted cowboy boots. I don't see how he recovers from trying to be diet Trump.

Imagine still trying to turn Florida blue by being filthy-mouthed whores.

>>1289368
>>1289413
how did it backfire? the illegals aren't in the US anymore, they are in Massachusetts

>Libshits giving visas to illegals that don't deserve them
Is this news?

>>1289450
Who are the libshits in this situation?

>>1289453
desantis, i guess? the wheels on the republican bus go round and round, right over the skulls of the disowned

>>1289456
I don't think DeSantis is responsible for granting the illegals visas, but go on with your libshit shilling.

>>1289449
>the illegals aren't in the US anymore, they are in Massachusetts
Premium schizo posting

>>1289463
>illegals don't qualify for visas
>desantis makes them victims
>now they qualify for victims visa
Premium overcope

>>1289475
>>desantis makes them victims
lol, by giving them a bus/plane ticket to where they want to go? Can I get some victim status here too?

>>1289476
>by giving them a bus/plane ticket to where they want to go?
By lying to them and using deception/coercion to manipulate them into boarding flights and buses. Its not legal to do that, even if you really hate immigrants. I know the rule of law is inconvenient to you people but maybe with enough time you'll get over it.

>>1289474
Mass isnt in the US. its a communist colony. GOP has been pretty clear, we don't care about illegals in blue state as long as they stay in blue states and don't vote in federal elections. we just don't want them in the US because they do crime and rape and cause the housing crisis and are on welfare
>inb4 the retard they don't do crime
100% of them came in illegally so 100% of them are criminals. plus like 80% of them are rapists, they just only do crime to other illegals so it goes unreported.

>>1289483
>GOP has been pretty clear, we don't care about illegals in blue state as long as they stay in blue states and don't vote in federal elections. we just don't want them in the US because they do crime and rape and cause the housing crisis and are on welfare
I have to agree; you can fuck up your own state just stay out of mine, faggots.
We need to start talking about closing state borders down so the shitnami spewing out of California and New York doesn't destroy the entire country.

>>1289366
Yeah, it turns out human trafficking is illegal.

>>1289486
>illegals
>humans
pick one. Also how come it isn't trafficking when mass sent every cop in the state and the national guard to force the illegals off the island and into a concentration camp in at the mass nasty girl barracks how is it not human trafficking when the mayors of nyc and chicago tried to force the illegals into red suburbs? how is it not trafficking when obongo and brandon dump plane loads of migrants in red states?

>>1289489
>how is it not trafficking when obongo and brandon dump plane loads of migrants in red states?
because you can't prove that and nobody is going to investigate it even if you could.

>>1289489
>People that cross borders illegally aren't humans!
Keep up the good work, schizo. Your unhinged psychotic rhetoric does more to push people away from conservative ideology than any left leaning podcast or news outlet ever could. We're counting on you to tank your own electorate for 2024 and beyond.

>>1289492
they famously did that for years under obongo without telling state or local authorities they were dumping MENA migrants there. brandon just dumped like a quarter million illegals in red states by plane in jan
>>1289493
no one likes illegals. the mayor of nyc and the gov of illinois said they were destroying their cities. illegals are the most evil pieces of shit on the planet

>>1289483
Well we do care about illegals in blue states because it decreases citizen's voting power as the Dems intend.

>>1289494
>illegals are the most evil pieces of shit on the planet
I really do appreciate you. It warms my heart to know that people like you are slowly working to kill the Republican party by being unhinged bloodthirsty maniacs while I sleep. God bless you.

>>1289494
>they famously did that for years under obongo without telling state or local authorities they were dumping MENA migrants there. brandon just dumped like a quarter million illegals in red states by plane in jan
And like others have said before me:
You don't see a single fucking red state DA even thinking about charging Brandon or Obama for their obviously illegal acts, do you?
Extinction is inevitable if you don't try to fight back.

>>1289497
>not wanting invaders who destroyed their own country to destroy your country is bad
even dems hate illegals in blue cities. its why NYC and chicago are trying to deport them to the suburbs

>>1289502
they aren't illegal anymore if they have visas

>>1289518
the nyc illegals that got shipped there are still illegals and even if they get visas they are still foreign invaders trying to ruin the US

>>1289518
Then I guess the current residents of New York won't even notice them.

>>1289497
You're gonna feel real dumb when the illegals eat your dog, retard.

>>1289529
>Vote red or illegals will eat your dogs!
I like this. This isn't psychotic at all. I'm sure all the young voters will really resonate with this messaging.

>>1289522
The irony being that the population over 70 is set to double in like the next few decades and southern immigrants massively over represented in the healthcare field when it comes to nursing and elder care i.e. when your extended family finally drops your repugnant, racist ass at the old folks home to die the last thing you'll probably see is a foreign invader wiping your ass and spoon feeding you apple sauce.

>>1289553
sounds like this is 100% a pay problem and the jews who run the boomer facilities are using illegals to suppress wages for hard working Americans.

>>1289480
I'm surprised criminal charges haven't been filed.

>>1289553
>the last thing you'll probably see is a foreign invader wiping your ass and spoon feeding you apple sauce.
Illegals deserve this. I'll try to shit on them too.

>>1289561
Me too. I don't know why they let people in the country illegally. It's a crime and they should be in prison.

>>1289567
>It's a crime and they should be in prison.
Yes, because adding millions of illegals to our already bloated prison system is a super smart and cost effective idea. No way that could blow up in your face.

>>1289489
I never said it wasn't. Can you admit to being against DeSantis's human trafficking actions now?

>>1289553
>southern immigrants massively over represented in the healthcare field when it comes to nursing and elder care
Lol wut? You mean jobs that have no education requirements, certainly not nursing. What's your source, faggot?

>>1289489
How did you become this mindbroken?

jews rape kids

>>1289553
Your gaping asshole is not a source

Anonymous

>>1289622
elder care nurses aren't RNs. you only need like 1 or 2 RNs per floor or building or something per law. you should really call them orderlies because they are doing shit like cleaning up the olds or feeding them, not rendering any medical care

>>1289599
Can't deport them. Can't imprison them.
Man, you really do have a hard on for billionaires trying to drive down wages, huh?
Fuck you.

>>1289368
It backfired? All they did was prove that they can handle more migrants.

>>1289684
>Can't deport them. Can't imprison them.
I mean, you could, its just an insanely expensive, retarded idea.

>Man, you really do have a hard on for billionaires trying to drive down wages, huh?
Immigrant labor doesn't drive down wages. You've been severely mislead by conservative propaganda. Just read the data, anon. For as much time as you spend spreading right wing misinformation you could just pull up an economic study and learn what the fuck it is you're talking about.

>>1289716
There is another solution. Targeting the people who illegally employ and pay them, eliminating the incentive to come here in the first place.

>>1289722
>Targeting the people who illegally employ and pay them, eliminating the incentive to come here in the first place.
Sure, that may impede some of the numbers coming in but that doesn't really address what we're discussing. If you dropped the number of border crossings all the way to zero, today, there's still millions of undocumented immigrants here. Deporting them all is prohibitively expensive and unrealistic and so is imprisoning them.

>>1289724
If they can't make a living here they will return home on their own, the same way they got here.

>>1289567
We should force conservatives to take citizenship tests. Just to weed out the traitors.

>>1289735
Can we start with requiring the test to vote, first?

>>1289736
too bad nobody would vote for it, unpopular

>>1289738
no, and anyways that guy was being tongue in cheek while calling you a traitor

>>1289736
Democrats already tried poll tests after they got their slaves taken away, they were struck down 100+ years ago by SCOTUS as unconstitutional

>>1289728
That's not an intelligent idea. You'd also be killing the American economy at the same time. There is no backup team of several million Americans ready to jump into the workforce the second all of the illegals nationwide go out work, assuming that you could even develop some sort of policy or system that could accurately target millions of people being paid off the books. I can tell you haven't really sat down and thought about this because you have no comprehensive understanding of immigration or its inter-connectivity to our economy. Your entire opinion begins and ends with "illegals bad".

>>1289788
>Right-wing conservatives already tried poll tests after they got their slaves taken away, they were struck down 100+ years ago by SCOTUS as unconstitutional
ftfy

>>1289818
Democrats FYI. (Don't let the blacks know)

>>1289817
>assuming that you could even develop some sort of policy or system
It's called social security numbers, birth certificates and green cards. I didn't have to spend much time coming up with those because they all existed before I was born.

Being that the federal government now has access to all banking records they feel like having without a warrant, it would be fairly easy to target people hiring illegals. You wouldn't get all of them, but you wouldn't have to. That's not really how law enforcement ever works.

>>1289368
but seriously we cant let DeSantis have access to the nuclear codes. He might start a world war with russia and china if he ever became president.

>>1289368
It became a common talking point and proof of dems hypocrisy for regular americans. I say it worked very well for him


ZOGbot Pedo Who Was in Gitmo Gets Magdumped

https://justicereport.net/2024/04/2<wbr>5/high-ranking-us-navy-commander-sh<wbr>ot-dead-in-undercover-pedophile-sti<wbr>ng/

Crazy story with the best possible ending.

>US Navy Captain retires, tries to bang two underage girls in Seattle

>Turns out it's a trap, pulls a gun when cops try to van him.

>Cops proceed to magdump this freak, sending him to the nether realm alongside the rest of his Zionist friends.

>Bruce C. Meneley, he was in charge of medical procedures at Gitmo during the Bush and Obama years and was responsible for force feeding them bacon burgers when they went on hunger strike.

LOL.

>Meneley
>Mendel
jewish name, why is it always pedophilia with the semites

>>1289832
>and was responsible for force feeding them bacon burgers when they went on hunger strike

What an absolute Chad.

>>1289832
>https://justicereport.net/
Not a valid news source. In fact it's literally fake news designed for Facebook boomers.

>>1289834
Pasting the article isn't going to bring back your Jewish idol jew apologist

>>1289847
>>1289847
>>1289847

>Navy doctor killed in SPD child sex crime sting FOX 13 Seattle

94,172 views Apr 24, 2024

>The suspect gunned down by police in a Southcenter hotel has been identified as retired Navy doctor Bruce Coval Meneley.

Its literally on local television in Seattle retard.

>>1289858
But OP didn't post a link to a Seattle news station, he posted facebook blogshit instead

>>1289861
The local news doesn't include the video, and the link the OP posted does. So, get bent gatekeeping faggot.

>>1289832
>Chief Adrian Diaz of the Seattle Police Department asserted that, between 2022 and 2023, the number of abhorrent crimes targeting minors on the internet increased by a stark 67%.
Why are Democrats like this? They want less police and all they do is literally rape and murder

>>1289832
Not exactly neutral news tone in this article:
"By the end of the Global War on Terror, Zionist meddling overseas is believed to have resulted in the deaths of over 4.5 million people since 9/11." WTF

>>1289832
Just lower the consent age to 8 and this shit will not happen again.

>>1289967
Those are just facts you zog bot.

>>1290305
Tinfoilfags like you belong on another board
>>>/x/

>>1290384
How does it feel to know you can't keep anyone from coming to /news/ and you have no authority over posts here?

>>1289832
>The coroner report indicated that Meneley died as a result of gunshot wounds, and was ruled a homicide. Officers Adam Fowler and Nick French were named by The Seattle Times as the officers responsible for putting down the suspect
Glad these pigs are going down for homicide

>>1290641
Sorry your pedo friend got capped :^[

>>1289832
>>1289832
>https://justicereport.net
White national Nazi propaganda blogs are not news sites
reported.
don't do it again.

>>1290625
He's right, you should go back


In defeat for Trump and Putin, Biden signs bill providing crucial military aid to Ukraine

Putin and his Puppet, Donald Trump, are seething that Ukraine is getting aid again to fight off Russian invaders.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/24/poli<wbr>tics/biden-signs-foreign-aid-bill/i<wbr>ndex.html

Washington CNN —

President Joe Biden on Wednesday signed into law an aid package providing crucial military assistance to Ukraine, capping months of negotiations and debate.

The aid package, passed by the Senate late Tuesday evening and worth $95 billion in total, includes nearly $61 billion in aid to Ukraine, $26 billion for Israel and $8 billion for the Indo-Pacific. The package also includes a bill that could eventually lead to the banning of TikTok in the United States - giving Chinese parent company ByteDance roughly nine months to sell it or else it will be banned from app stores in the United States.

Wearing a US-Ukrainian flag pin and speaking from the White House after signing the bill on Wednesday, Biden said it was a “good day for America, a good day for Ukraine and a good day for world peace.”

The aid package, Biden said, is “going to make America safer. It’s going to make the world safer. And it continues America’s leadership in the world.”

The signing of the aid package was the culmination of months of tense negotiations, personal lobbying from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and a split in the House Republican conference that continues to threaten the leadership position of House Speaker Mike Johnson. Hardline House conservatives opposed further US funding to Kyiv and threatened to oust Johnson over his handling of the negotiations. Conservatives in Congress have opposed additional assistance for what they view as an unwinnable war.

Biden had spent months lobbying Johnson to move forward with aid to Ukraine, enlisting top administration officials and CIA Director Bill Burns to lay out the stakes for Ukraine - and ultimately democracy in Europe and across the world - if Russia continued to make inroads in its military campaign there.

He acknowledged the bumpy road to get the package passed in his remarks on Wednesday.

“It was a difficult path,” Biden said. “It should have been easier. It should have gotten there sooner. But in the end, we did what America always does: We rose to the moment, came together. We got it done.”

Spending the bulk of his remarks talking about the Ukraine aid, Biden noted that Russia has “been responsible for a brutal campaign against Ukraine.”

“They’ve killed tens of thousands of Ukrainians,” Biden said, “bombed hospitals … kindergartens, grain silos, tried to plunge Ukraine into a cold dark winter.”

 Funding going to Ukraine quickly

The bill’s effects will be felt most quickly and acutely on battlefields in Ukraine, whose soldiers have faced ammunition shortages and battlefield losses in the absence of US assistance this year.

Biden said the shipments of military supplies to Ukraine will begin “in the next few hours,” and would include air-defense equipment and munitions for artillery and rocket systems, along with armored vehicles.

The Pentagon announced a $1 billion aid package would go to Ukraine just moments after Biden signed the bill into law.

Among the capabilities included in the new package is ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), artillery rounds, RIM-7 and AIM-9M air defense missiles, Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles, Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, and more. It also includes various logistics and tactical vehicles, anti-armor systems, training munitions and spare parts, and small arms ammunition including .50 caliber rounds to counter drones.

CNN reported Tuesday that administration officials have indicated to Congress the US would send long-range Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS, a system Ukraine has long asked for. The Pentagon revealed it already sent those long-range missiles earlier this month after Biden spoke.

Biden secretly approved the transfer of the long-range missiles in February for use inside Ukrainian territory. The ATACMS missiles were then quietly included in the $300 million aid package announced on March 12 and ultimately delivered to Ukraine earlier this month, according to Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Garron Garn.

“It was not announced that we are providing Ukraine with this new capability at the time in order to maintain operational security for Ukraine at their request,” Garn said, deferring questions about their use to Ukraine’s military.

Last fall, the US first sent Ukraine the mid-range variant of the ATACMS missile system, which can reach about 100 miles, while the longer-range version can reach as far as 190 miles.

Ukrainian officials have been asking the US in private and in public for the long-range missiles to target deeper behind Russian lines. American officials have previously resisted, citing supply issues and concerns about further provoking Moscow if they are deployed.

i'll glady pay u tuesday for some insulin today

>>1289701
>In defeat for America's poor, Biden signs bill providing wasted military aid to Ucrane.
FTFY

Ukraine still losing battles and ground every single day, no amount of money is gonna change that.

>>1289708
>In defeat for America's poor
Walking and eating gum at the same time, anon. Its a long debunked and brain dead talking point that every dollar that goes to one program is a dollar that can't go to another. That's not how budgets work. There's no universe in which funding social welfare programs and foreign aid can't occur at the same time.

>>1289708
If only republicans stopped blocking tax hikes on the rich so that money could go to the poor instead.

all traitors. funding foreign countries while America is being invaded.

They are all traitors, its undeniable

>>1289730
>while America is being invaded.
But enough about Republicans betraying America to the Russians.

>>1289701
Looks like ukrainians can afford to be slaughtered for another year
Ukraine is hitting the end of their manpower reserve and all this money is doing is making it so that current Ukrainians can't surrender

>>1289755
why are you unironically a russia shill

>>1289757
What do you think makes up a large population of /pol/?

>>1289755
Even if we go full doomer, more advanced weapons delivered to Ukraine means more dead rusians.
That can only be a positive.

>>1289708
aren't the trumptards against anything that'd actually make the lives of the american poor better like universal healthcare and more taxation for the rich? Why is the money going to Ukraine suddenly a huge problem?

>>1289833
Trump tards just go against whatever the current thing is, in contrast to Ivanfags who are openly seething

>>1289725
dems only want to tax the middle class. its why biden repealed the middle class trump tax cuts but left the ones for the rich
>>1289718
>lets raise more taxes and send it to the military industrial complex. it will surely help people when we raise their taxes
also social welfare spending has never helped a single human being. tax cuts have

sage

I REALLY wonder what the life of someone making a thread like this looks like

In your mind, Donald Trump, who was president for a full fucking term, but ALSO is Putin's puppet did jackshit to help Russia or Putin at the same time???

What is wrong with your brain? How do you say this with a straight face. I say this as a citizen of the third world, no allegiances to anyone before you call me a Trump cultist because that's the default answer from retards like you.

You don't need to answer, I know that your brain can't comprehend the idiocy of your statement. I'm just laughing at your elite defending zealot life.

Anonymous

>>1289943
You're fucking crazy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links<wbr>_between_Trump_associates_and_Russi<wbr>an_officials

>>1289944
wow... an administration had diplomatic relations with other countries? this is unbelievable. how could this happen?

>>1289945
That isn't what it says
>In November 2016, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov contradicted Trump's denials by confirming the Trump campaign had been in contact with Russia, stating in a 2016 Interfax news agency interview: "Obviously, we know most of the people from his entourage," adding "I cannot say that all of them but quite a few have been staying in touch with Russian representatives."[8][9]

>The Senate Intelligence Committee Russia Report described how "secretive meetings and communications with Russian representatives... signaled that there was little intention by the incoming administration to punish Russia for the assistance it had just provided in its unprecedented attack on American democracy."[10]

>>1289943
From Trump's on NSA
https://www.axios.com/2022/03/02/bo<wbr>lton-trump-deterred-russia-ukraine

>>1289946
literal nothingburger
years of russiagate and we've discovered... trump talked to a russian once

>>1290080
So you admit Trump operates like a Mafia boss.

>>1289701
That country is so ass blastingly fucked it's not even funny.

>>1290302
Only if the Trump claws his way back into power.

>>1290306
Man, I hope this happens. The prosperity will be terrible, again.
I fucking love struggling!

>>1290321
The greatest trick Trump ever pulled was convincing troglodytes like you that coasting off of the success of Obama's policies was somehow a result of his great leadership. The only legislation he passed was tax cuts to his billionaires friends and you knuckle draggers literally trip over your own dicks to praise him for it. Our country truly is doomed with people like you in it.

>>1290337
What in the fuck? Obama was a disaster.
There were no good Obama policies, aside from extending the Bush tax cut.

>>1290347
>What in the fuck? Obama was a disaster.
But apparently not so much of a disaster that Trump didn't want to take credit for his upward trends. From energy independence to plummeting unemployment Trump made sure to tell everyone that he was responsible for economic trends that started before he was even president.

>There were no good Obama policies, aside from extending the Bush tax cut.
Conservative propaganda has turned your brain to mush.

Obama was the best prez since JFK.
He even started in the worst economic recession since the 1930s and did an outstanding job, shouldn't have won the peace prize though TBH.
He just doesn't get much credit from repugnicans because he is black, though they won't admit that part.