vanilla /hdg/ Hentai Diffusion General #4

now she has green eyes edition

Previous Thread: >>8007166

welcome to vanilla /hdg/
no ugly/fat men, no male orcs,no beastmen,no male monsters, no dark skin males and no NTR.
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thanks and have fun!

>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st<wbr>able-diffusion-webui/wiki
Optimizations *NEW*:
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st<wbr>able-diffusion-webui/pull/15821
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st<wbr>able-diffusion-webui/pull/15837
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st<wbr>able-diffusion-webui/pull/15824

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/C<wbr>omfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/Co<wbr>mfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templa<wbr>tes

>LOCAL FORGEUI *OLD*
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stabl<wbr>e-diffusion-webui-forge

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/257749/
https://civitai.com/models/288584/
https://rentry.org/anypony-science (Animagine refiner for Pony)
https://rentry.org/5exa3 (HLL+EasyFluff) *OLD*
https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomef<wbr>uckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st<wbr>able-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/L<wbr>oRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrain<wbr>er
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pag<wbr>es/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_<wbr>tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanst<wbr>er/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Wildcards: https://rentry.org/NAIwildcards
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
NAI API/prompting in auto1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-<wbr>nai-api
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_s<wbr>tuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_prev<wbr>iews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0<wbr>rx-a6jf

>>8022306
>https://rentry.org/anypony-science<wbr> (Animagine refiner for Pony)
What is it doing in the OP?

Oh come on, I had a proper thread ready to go and you make this shit?

>>8022306
Jesus christ don't make themed /hdg/. Jannies are retards and will delete this or the non-vanilla one.
Then everyone comes here and retards are like uhh this isn't vanilla.

inb4 jannies should...
they're janitors, being an imbecile is a resume requirement

>>8022319
m8 its been like 40 minutes since the other one got deleted
i wouldnt call that ready
go ahead and make it

>>8022323
wow sherlock holmes, you figured it out
this thread is made by the same person shitting up the threads for the purpose of shitting them up further

>>8022323
Why did the old thread get deleted anyway?

>>8022334
But everyone likes loli.......

>>8022334
of course you did, groidspammer

>>8022334
I though she seemed tall enough to be an adult
more than girls that didn't get deleted

>>8022337
dont be fooled by the same pedo samefagging his own posts 5+ times every time

patiently waiting for the comfyui vs a1111 episode after the loli bait episode ends<br>it's like an endless cycle for this guy

>>8022343
no one care about comfy, even the people using it dont like it

>>8022343
Where is an alternative place to discuss AI hentai imagery now that this thread is in external schizo meltdown status? I think I'm finally done with this shit.

>>8022345
it's by far the most powerful interface there is
the only excuse not to use it is if you are a braindead 90iq retard (applies to almost everyone itt though)

>>8022345
True. I hate it. On the other hand webui is unusable for my workflows so guess which one I have to use.

Weak bait. Doomposting against cascade is far more effective these days.

it's furries derailing the thread isn't it

>>8022347
Discord unironically but finding a non-trooned server can be annoying

What are some good samplers to be used with Align Your Steps?

>>8022373
>Align Your Steps
What is this troon shit? Rope.

Looks like the schizos have moved over and the air is clean

Is samefagging just another form of masturbation?

Reposting a couple since the previous thread was nuked and I really like how the style turned out on them

tried a new training technique on SD1.5 and it turned out quite well

>>8022347
banished to cunnyland
(it's kinda dead there)

>>8023130
>1.5 with all the fingers
WITCH
A FUCKING WITCH IN THIS THREAD

https://civitai.com/models/447522/m<wbr>idkemia

ok i want to plug this mix. it has been giving me the best starting places by a significant margin compared to other models, especially in the adverse conditions of kohya hiresfix/deep shrink. pic related is the 1st seed i clicked at 100% denoise directly at 2x resolution, raw gen.
backgrounds coming through strong with the slightest bit of nudging in the prompt. great fine detail.
i dont do nearly as much flatter shading, maybe there's some 2.5d bias i dont know about

What is the purpose of this thread? Most of the shit posted in the real one already is vanilla.

>>8023871
No purpose. Whenever it almost drowns someone bumps it back up, that's why it exists.
Anyway, janny closed previous hdg on a whim for no reason at all, so there was no thread and somebody created this one first. People didn't like it because this thread doesn't serve it's purpose anyway so they created proper one. This time when it's actually needed janny can't be bothered to close this thread, so we have two.

>>8023903
So this is a thinly veiled no BBC thread
you could've just said that.
Gonna do a BBC pic realquick

>>8023810
If you zoom in you can see I drew in her right ring finger manually.

Any tips on matching line style btw? I always struggle to find a good brush for inpainting.

>>8023919
I used to use a combination of the clone tool and the mixer brush tool in photoshop to get it 'just right' if theres shading or smudging around the line. then a really low noise i2i pass if it needs extra blending (varies how successful that is). most of the time you really need to use a tablet pencil for pressure sensitivity to get the lines feeling right and I've always been too lazy to plug mine in for something so small

>>8023903
It doesn't serve purpose because it will never be enforced. So you will still have to "double check".

>>8023919
I know shill this too much in these threads but as of now using the krita diffusion plugin for krita has been the most convenient image make for me

>>8024560
do you realize that this is just a worst i2i or controlnet

>>8024638
The only reason you would probably say that you never extensively used painting/editting softaware. do you realise that I don't have to open 5 gorillion nodes to iterate and reiterate images in this? I do understand what this is. it is a comfyui workflow streamlined into krita. try doing perspective transform, resolution change, smearing the image, or transforming it all in one software. Being able to do stuff without switching from browser to photoshop and importing exporting results every 5 seconds like an autist is a blessing. ANd thanks to lcm the outputs are near instant so I know what to edit.

>>8024668
I use photoshop so it can do all those things and more and you dont need to import/export every 5 seconds if you know what you are doing. You might like your workflow but the result are subpar.

Inpainting to get rid of belly buttons has been a chore. It makes 3.
I try to erase 2.
inpainting merely moves it somewhere else.

>>8024890
remove 'belly button, navel' from your prompt if you're inpainting it out, or even put it in negs.. or just use llama cleaner or photoshop, most of the time you can get away with that. you can only reroll gacha inpaint so many times before you want to rope. its actually wild how smart the AI is at understanding blobs from inpaint sketch as concepts but inpainting on its own is pants on head retarded

>>8024668
kek ignore the retards, as an artist I appreciate this extremely; also great for getting more obscure concepts/poses you have no reference image to gacha through controlnet for

>>8025237
Nah that's just a you thing
Post gens or fuck off

how are these threads? I gave up on /h/ a long time ago

>>8024684
The result are subpar because
1.vramlet, running xl just to get slightly better results from the get go isn't worth how slow it is.
2. 512×512 res so that the steps get complete before I can even blink. Will upscale.
3.the render is less of a focus for me and more so the concept. Because "1girl, pov, basic bitch, big breasts, standing, coom" is just a bit boring for me (nothing wrong with that)

 Try controlnetting something like picrel in 1 pass and see how it melts everything to a mush.

>>8025178
yeah bro it's really funny. you can even play guessing games using inpaint sketch. there was no sword in this image before but as soon as I laid out a basic shape on the left, the AI went 'OOOH OOH I know what it is! it's a SWORD!"

>>8025376
I mean if you want to do wacky 512*512 pictures then sure, still doesnt change the fact that you have no control over the artstyle and the final result look worse than most regular model

>>8025178

forgot picrel in >>8025410 sorry

>>8025415
>you have no control over the artstyle.

lul

>>8025422
that doesnt look like masami chie at all...

>>8025431
remove the lineart from masami's art and you get this, don't believe me? try blurring his image.

plus, it's also not wise to make heavy lineart styles in lowres. see what happens here? lines are blurry and upscale will destroy it. I will do a second refining pass at 1024x1024 where I use a controlnet if I want to do a lineart heavy artstyle. THen Maybe do a fina final pass in low strength with autismxl. (this is all 1.5 btw and obviously has it's retared limitation. try going back from pony to this,for a while and old horrifying memories will come back.)

>>8025415
Nta but are you retarded? You sound like you've never even touched inpainting before... He can literally prompt for style or use a lora the same way anyone could with text to image. This has to be a troll, right?

Keep it up Krita anon, nice work especially with limited vram. I imagine you already have at some point, but would you mind dropping an image or JSON with your workflow so I can get comfy manager to steal the plugin?

>>8025474
I am retarded anon I cannot make such a complex workflow. Heck it even utilises the krita lasso tools to make inpaint masks. ALL thanks goes to this acly guy, he has guide how to link the comfyui to krita and what to install to get his plugin working.

https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-di<wbr>ffusion

After finding this I only use the main comfyui for tile contronlet ultimate upscale.

>>8025480
Don't worry I'm bad at regular comfy noodle mess, I'd never even know. Thanks for the link, though, I'll use his guide. Appreciate it

>>8024560
thanks, I'm gonna try this for sure

>>8025474
I think it's just an issue of presentation. His example outputs always look awful without the final upscale at a normal step count. I don't remember a finished image showing what this can actually achieve.

>>8024560
I never really got it to work ,too smooth brained

>>8025892
she's suffering from VAENOWitis

>>8025780
 this is a very damn straight forward process compared to making any comfy workflow.

>>8025775
It is an issue of presentation if you think it to be so. I only ever showed on going processes with the krita anon namefagging because that process was what I was shilling. Anyone who wants to spitefag will keep doing that. And anyone who gets interested in it might get more creative and achieve better results with it.

TL;DR: I am shilling the tool, not my skills or result.

>>8025775
Also people seem to always look for "le resolution and sharp looking" as an indicator of quality. Meanwhile ignoring that there are anons posting 4k upscaled 70 step images that have cross eyes, unwanted artifacts, illogical limb positioning and what not. I mean that's okay. But it seems like disingenuous judgement.

>>8022306
why does the op say forge is *OLD*?

>>8025921
not updates in months
with the new A11 optimizations there's not much reason to use it

Anyway that's just what I read here

>>8025920
Im not sure what you mean :(
>>8025892
i downloaded a vae and put it in the folder lets see if it works :(

>>8025920
>>8025893

im not sure if this is better

>>8025944
colors are better
but it looks like you took a 512x512 image hiresfixed to 1024x1024 and then put it through extra upscaler (not a good look), extra upscalers have their niche uses but if you use them to make the image larger it ends up making it all melty and blurry

what are your specs/gpu? if it's good enough you should be using sdxl model like one of the pony mixes

if you can't run that then I'd recommend going to civitai or aibooru, finding 1.5 images that you like, looking at their metadata like what prompt/negatives/loras they use and try to imitate that, it's a good way to learn how to make your images look better

I'm really starting to believe including score tags actually makes the gen worse

>>8025982
There's not much room for belief here. Fix your seed and gen with/without the tags, you should get a clear answer.

I'm only using score_9, source_anime, as a compromise. Losing all the scores seems to make compositions worse.

>>8025982
Yeah it's worse,especially if you have a character lora

>>8026027
>the cunny and the dick melted into one

pure poetry

>>8026050
Come to think of it,did anyone ever get demoted?
I know Chazz did but he literally left the school so it was less of a demotion and more of starting from the bottom.

>>8025982
no mention of scores = use all the images in the dataset.
score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, etc. = use a fraction of the dataset.
Smart model would cull out the bad art and give a higher multiplier for good art, instead of requiring any prompt input for it.
As other Anon said using just score_9 is good. You can also use score_8 (by itself). Maybe it has more images, but I don't know for sure.

>>8026050
>brb getting demoted
Can their dorm budget even afford the influx of the cunny connoisseurs?

>>8026133
>We have a budget?
Not anymore

Newfag here. How do I go about getting three different characters in an image -without- inpainting?

>>8026258
regional prompter - forge couple - regional sampler
ordered by complexity and effectiveness

Can't really put my finger on it,but what is it about AI images that makes them immediately feel uncanny and recognizable?<br>And I don't mean obvious stuff like broken anatomy or typical AI jank,it's somehow the image itself,not really sure how to explain it,but you guys know what I mean

>>8025892
It looks like it was generated as a squished 512x512 then upscaled incorrectly

>>8025937
>someone finally asked me for a box
I made it, sensei
https://files.catbox.moe/ovoygr.png<wbr>

How do you make forge not load any models on startup? I want to have it running in the background to be available at a moment's notice and for NAI without it hogging up all my VRAM and a huge chunk of my RAM. A1111's --skip-load-model-at-start doesn't work, it still loads the last model on startup.

>>8026921
Won't it just swap to disk once you start doing something else?

>>8026921
I have my checkpoints/loras on an external drive, and with --no-download-sd-model I can launch SD without loading any model. Sadly, without a model actually loaded, NAI extension still shits itself. Debug mode didn't work as well.
So I guess if you're short on RAM you can use some 1.5 model, they're much lighter than xl

Going to train a few LORAs, is it best to train on Pony or the direct model you're going to use, for example Autismmix_Pony?

>no dark skin males
>That means #NoNiggers
Based.

>>8027442
just please for the love of cunny don't train on confetti

>>8026591
Humans are frighteningly efficient at recognition, even minor illogical brush strokes or misaligned irises can produce the uncanny effect even if you don't consciously notice these things.
Only autists let themselves ruin images because of this though.

>>8026591
skin textures, color intensity staying within a predictable range, expressions are still pretty stiff/samey. Also god forbid you do anything with heavy foreshortening.

>>8027556
you forgot lighting being retarded

>>8027717
xlvaec_c1 is decent but it can be too strong sometimes

>>8027717
even without the vae issue the base is fucked. the only freedom we'll have is if we can break free from SAI's taint completely, part of why the Cascade arc has more hopium for me - at least it wasn't fully tainted by SAI and instead they bought out other people's work

>>8027745
I'm gonna be honest, I just want to point at every schizo boogeyman I can.

>>8027734
>xlvaec_c1 is decent but it can be too strong sometimes
too strong how?

>>8028277
it squash the extreme shades black and white

>>8027717
what exactly are you trying to unfuck

>>8028277
How did you even find that? It's a repo called temp but it's existed for over a year so it's clearly not just temporary, no readme or documentation, full of 3-6gb models with randomized filenames...what a mess.

I really liked this commit:
>Rename bdI1464.safetensors to XhgVKpGi.safetensors

>>8030033
>Why is /u/Diffusion so dead?
Because generating good 2girl prompts is hard. Instead of 10 fingers you're working with 20. Instead of 1 face there's 2.

Anybody have a good guide for inpainting in SDXL?

quick someone make a new bread before the trolls find this comfy one again

00536-2218096566-kawakami rokkaku, source_anime, score_9, score_8_up, (1girl kneeling next to large male_1.3), (fellatio_1.1), (oral cock inserti.png

I like taking anon's artist mixes and applying them to things that the artists in question would never ever draw just to see what happens.

00002-2054817068-1girl, solo, nsfw, (character_symmetra _(overwatch_)_1.1576), overwatch , artist_wamudraws, artist_opossumachine, artist_healt.png

>>8022306
>https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/s<wbr>table-diffusion-webui/pull/15837
isn't that the anime=pedo astra simp?

>>8032519
kek it is, kind of makes the tinfoils about him spamming here feel slightly more creditable when his a1111 fork is immediately added to OP and started being shilled as soon as it was uploaded

>>8032526
wait what
I'm coming here like once a week what the fuck happened

>>8032526
basically, he keeps going on weird discord tirades against pedos which make it seem like he has skeletons in the closet, and says anyone who likes anime is a pedo. add on his timezone matching the spammers' and some other timing coincidences, as well as him living in a state where blacks would be weirdly fetishized from interalized racism, and some anons have started speculating he is the spammer. don't know that there's any validity to those rumors but its kind of funny

>>8022306
I like to make mine where you dont actually show much so ppl can fill up with their imagination.

Sometimes not seem is beter than seeing.

Any suggestions why my sd-webui-controlnet keeps disabling everytime I hit apply and reload?

>>8033370
Looks like her tail is pushing the poop back in..

is SD able to remove bar censor by any method

>>8032544
>>8033639
This adult mature woman is green for some reason, she might be sick. Needs thorough examination.

Reboast for vanilla:
Cascade baking is underway frens!
Exciting news, donate goal is now updated to:
$2,414 of $4,700
Very obtainable
>From https://www.zeffy.com/en-US/fundrai<wbr>sing/ec77a176-672f-4aa9-ba4d-4c7460<wbr>7379fd
>Full Dataset Latent Creation: Funded: Complete
>Text Encoder Pretraining: Funded: In Progress
>1B model 5 epoch Release Candidate: Funded
>1B 10 epoch Final Release: Funded
>3.6B model 5 Epoch Release Candidate: 20% Funded
>3.6 10 Epoch Final Release: Not Yet Funded

>>8033722
This is a lot more realistic than the previous goal and now it's not 6 months to see a checkpoint. Actually kind of hyped.

cascade funding is a scam<br>do not support a scam

>>8033798
Seems like they're delivering to me. You don't have to donate but I'm fine throwing some shekels at freedom.

oh braces tag why are you an unending font of horror : (