Just got an REI membership and all I want to do now is consooooom

What are the best items rei has to offer?

>>2700086
boots because they let you return them for 1 year if you have a membership (the guy at the store said 100 days, but the receipt said 1 year from purchase so not 100% sure)
anyways I bought boots, they were too small, and I got to exchange them even though I'd hiked up a mountain in them for a bigger size
that said, do not buy bicycle helmets at rei, their prices are nutrageous

>>2700104
Their tire prices are kind of nutrageous too but their selection of stuff for mountain biking is pretty good. My nearest REI turned into a bike shop that also sells Patagonia jackets.

>a membership just to buy secondhand shit
Are all of you retarded

>>2700086
The Mountain Hardwear airmesh layers at 30% off right now and are crazy warm and light, highly recommend as an upgrade from polartec grid fleece.

>>2700162
What do you think happens to the boots you returned?

>>2700213
>>2700214
Every store sells open box or refurbished items, but that post implies their primary business is selling used items.

>>2700250
you're right about how stupid that post was, but REI also sells used items that aren't open box or refurbished. It's an extreme minority of their inventory at any given time, though

>>2700165
>Shills the latest deal
>Takes the time to memorise the brand/model of overpriced coat, needs to upgrade though for own sense of wellbeing

This board is full of this type of energy. You don't buy a coat, you buy a series of coats until you settle on one that has been endlessly engineered to appeal to your whims. You want to feel connected with nature, but at the same time, pampered by the artifical fabric that you cover your natural self with.

Not even women used to be this way, but here you are as a modern man.

>>2700318
Who pissed in your cereal? I'm just sharing a piece of equipment that works for me and passing on that info. When's the last time you went /out/? Post a picture of you outside before ranting about "retvrn to tradition" you baboon. It's literally $60, if you think that's some exorbitant sum then go get a job or something wagie poorfag.

>>2700086
I like to get my wool socks there

>>2700318
>this type of energy
You don't go outside.

>>2700086
Clothing, no doubt. REI is like 90% clothes. They usually have some ok sales.

The REI co-op backpack was bretty gud but it’s gotten a little too expensive. Its main draw was the competitive price, but it’s the same as every other pack now. Same with the Half Dome tent, but it was always a little too expensive.

>>2700318
>This board is full of this type of energy.
No it isn’t.

>>2700370
In coming up with a witty reply, I realized that you were not the original poster of the trash zoomerspeak. I mistakenly called you a zoomer and for that I humbly apologize.
>>2700318
Zoomer begone

>>2700073
My pops went to UW in the 70s and had an REI membership number with triple digits. I took him to the store here in Eugene a couple years back and he said (and I quote)
>what the fuck happened to this place?
We almost immediately turned around and left.
Based dad, love you old man.

>>2700404
Eugene is a pit but the woods are comfy
>t. Went to school at UO

REI is overpriced junk, just like every company in the US now.

>>2700086
Pants with a draw string so you don’t need a belt. Seriously, removing my belt so I can put my pack on and buckle my load bearing straps is really annoying

>>2700104
You should watch this movie. In the movie she is helped by some policy that REI has with boots.

>>2700086
sometimes they have good quality stuff on clearance. it's the only stuff i buy from there really.

Rei means king in Portuguese. And it’s no surprise that many outdoors people like the colour purple, because purple used to be used only by royalty in the past.

>>2700086
some condescending advise from the associates but an opportunity to try on/get sized for gear. otherwise buy from amazon

>>2700073
Im so poor when I walk into one of these bad boys NOBODY asks if I need help finding something

And it's true, I'm merely stoned and walking around

>Eligible Purchases: $360
>Noneligible Purchases: $735

i dont know enough to say anything about their selection but they seem to hire the faggiest people on the planet it’s uncanny

>>2700086
got some permethrin there, but i left it in the car over winter and it might be fucked now idk it got like -5 f out there for a bit. got some waterphobic gloves for canoeing that worked perfectly for a ~50 hr trip

>>2700352
Me too, I've stolen countless pairs of wool socks from them

>>2700073
Is REI the equivalent of Decathlon's in Europe?

>>2700073
I have one too but I don't even know what it does. You get a percentage back in giftcards and you get rentals in hub cities? The prices for plastic clothes there are all completely insane.

I my experience LL Bean has the best price/quality and people seem to think it is as expensive as patagonia despite being 1/3rd the price.

>>2706784
Isn't LL Bean fashion for single moms that watch too much Yellowstone?

>>2706799
Kinda. It's also funny that he chose that item in particular to show off because REI and LL Beans anorak are within like $5 of each other.

>>2706799
They have comparable plastic clothes to any other plastic clothing brand for cheaper. They used to be very nice back in the 90s.

>>2700073
I’ll shop there for gear, pretty much anything but clothing, unless it’s expedition tier shit, but I tend to order that rather than just dropping by. If you are groomed trail /out/, their clothes are fine. If you are /offtrailout/…their puffy and weak pants will be shredded in minutes.

It's weird that REI insists on pretending that black people go camping. I've never seen a black person on a backpacking trail, and almost never on state park campgrounds. Fishing sure, but not overnight camping. Yet every single REI ad has blacks in it, often BMWF.

>>2707378
Despite being only 13% of the population, blacks are in 90% of advertisements. Why is that? Who is doing this? Why are they advertised in places that make zero sense like j crew or banana republic or rei? We all know the answer but are not allowed to speak it.

>>2707268
>>2707270
A pair of double front duck Carharrt pants are fine 99.9% of the time here in Western WA. Heavy duty rain pants over the top of it’s pouring. Zero point in buying fancy shit unless it does something a basic bitch product can not. I see zero reality based benefit to utilizing Vknywgfvden pants .

>>2707378
At least 70% of REI members wish the outdoors was all black though

used to go to REI a lot when I lived in a city and just drove around going to college and bars, then hiking on the weekend.

ever since growing up and owning a house with a little land, i realized i need clothes that can take a beating, and that's carhartt for me.

>>2707548
I just buy $13 costco jeans and throw them away when they blowout.

>>2700086
Whatever is on the return rack with only the slightest issue with it but is almost a hundred dollars off

>>2700073
Is Kuhl stuff exclusive to REI? I like their pants and want one of their jackets. Expensive as fuck tho, I might just get some Varusteleka stuff for now.

>>2700073
holy based
when i was 16 i bought a rei membership and my first trip i dropped 800$ dollars on random shit

>>2707997
They don't even sell guns though

>>2708016
Muttbrained response killed the thread.

>>2700073
>REI
The faggiest of all outdoor stores.

>>2709830
They have rei outside of the usa? I thought it was just a gayfag pnw yuppie thing for techbros to buy their patagonia and bicycles.

>>2709978
The comparable store would be cabellas/bass pro. Of course they sell things for people who hunt and have trucks that can tow boats instead of just a subaru forester with a roofrack

>>2707479
>>2707451
>>2707378

I still can't even fathom why this is. I have also never met a black person that wants to go camping. They are all very vocal about NOT wanting to go when I talk about it. So what is this push to get them to do something they don't want? Is it literally just companies trying to get more consumers?

>>2704183
i never really thought about this lol. i do rock some purple gear in my kit.

also fuck rei. there's way better cottage companies around now for much better quality for lower if not the same prices as rei. i bought my gear from them for my first backpacking trip, and they have some decent stuff to replace worn clothes/gear. however they're a woke garbage company now thats expensive as fuck. rei (especially their name brand stuff) used to be a good option to get into backpacking/hiking/out without spending an arm and a leg. not anymore.

Have any of you worked there? What's the employee discount like? I'm kind of a bum right now and looking to get a thing out two for this season (new whitewater helmet and throw bag, and possibly a tent.)

>electiontourists whining about some thing they don't like
good thread

>>2710015
It's ESG scoring. Esg is basically a social credit score where an unelected oligarchy of the ultrarich assign a score to your company based on if you do exactly what they say or not. If you do not comply then they lower the ESG score. If they lower the ESG score then the major money management firms, Blackrock, Statestreet, Vanguard pull out of your stock which tanks your stock and therefore your company. It's a cooersion tool. And after they all got all that bailout money from the 2008 bubble crash and the peaky proles all decided they hated the bankers and the federal reserve and wallstreet and the government, they decided they needed to push a message of in-fighting and division. So ever since then they have been constantly having everyone racialize everything and opening up the borders to destroy any sembalance of national identity or unity. Their goal is to have mindless consumer-slaves and a reduced population. Putting black guys in spf 50+ sunscreen commercials is just one small component of that overall goal.

>>2700073
oh that reminds me i feel like ihaven't gotten a disbursement from REI for a couple years and i bought a lot of stuff last year. how do i check if i have a credit coming?

>>2700086
mid everything

>>2700318
Bruh it’s called wanting to be fucking comfortable and it’s important af for spending a lot of time outside. Go /out/ into some rain/below freezing temps/scorching hot temps/high wind with your manly man manhood attitude and inadequate layers, and you will be begging for the synthetics in an hour. Existing outside isn’t a masculinity pissing contest

>t.ranny

>>2710815
Nah I own wool and linen. Keep your soiboy plastics

>>2700073
They make pretty good stuff desu. Their name brand stuff is actually quite good for the price. Though as I have gained experience I have moved away from them and their kooky woke shit hasn't helped much. I used to buy about 50% of my gear from them, but now probably buy about 5% of my gear from them now. Most of my gear is now through smaller companies and mom & pop operations or making my own. When I encounter beginner backpackers that want to do more I always recommend REI to them for the following reasons. Generous return policy, decent named brand gear, knowledgeable employees and good prices on used gear or new gear when you can get it on sale.

>>2704611
>condescending advise from the associates
Where do you live that REI employees actually go outside enough to have advice to offer? The closest REI to me is staffed by high school students that couldn't even walk ten feet from a trailhead.

>>2713246
Where I live they give decent to good advice. Dunno where you live, but it sounds like it sucks.

>>2700073
I got rainpants and a layerable rain jacket there, got the membership that day, used the membership rebate coupon to get a good pair of cold weather gloves

Honestly that was everything i needed, cant imagine what else id get outside of maybe using their bike repair services.

>>2713268
They don't sell guns or fishing gear so unless you use a bike I don't get how they have any return customers. Like you only need one of most of the things they sell there in general. It's weird to be just for outdoor fashion and backpacking and bicycles.

>>2707378
I have a black friend that wants to go camping amd do outdoorsy stuff but her family is composed of first generation trinidadian immigrants. They also regularly consume Infowars and other right wing news outlets.

>>2713328
>trinidadian immigrants. They also regularly consume Infowars and other right wing news outlets.
Based. I used to work with a trin forklift driver. Needless to say, we didn't fall for the vaxx

Is buying a fleece jacket dumb? I hear the material goes bad fast

>>2715459
Not if it's cheap. It's fucking plastic. Don't spend over $40 on that shit. I saw some ll bean ones at dillards on spring clearance for like $32 last week. They have marmot, ll bean, north face, pendleton winter shit on clearance right now.

>>2713271
i go there for footwear, powergel type of shit, cooking gas. Though overall they clearly lean on fashion for the bulk of repeat customer purchases

>>2715488
All their shoes are sold elsewhere for cheaper. It's a good place to try on though. And the gas is cheaper at cabellas.

>>2715491
Based and public education pilled

>>2700318
I love clothing and clothing's history and shit like mink oil for leather and resoling boots and wool and linen and different knits and weaves and why. Clothing is a tool.

>>2715492
not sure what you're getting at. you clearly read some shit by people who wanted you think something, didn't actually look into the topic of ESG, then confidently made assertions about a topic about which you have a transparently entry-level (and politically slanted) understanding. That's the behavior of a proudly dumb person. My age isn't relevant to any of that, but you're presenting as a below-average 19 yo

>>2715494
an attempt was made

>>2717795
i asked chat gpt and google and they both told me esg is a good thing why do people think sustainable economic development and social justice and carbon reduction is a bad thing
>>2715494
ok homeschooled jesus yokel

>>2717823
posters don't seem to care about corporate governance, but they also think that issuers/managers of cap-weighted index funds "pull out of stocks" based on ESG. Those sorts of posters were never credible to begin with.

>>2717850
please explain it more than that I don't get it at all

Just bought this fleece jacket on Craigslist for 50 bucks. Gonna order a new one at rei and return this used one.

>>2700086
The Flash Air is a good tent, and the magma sleeping bags are incredible for the price when they go on sale. The bikes are decent starters too
>>2700162
You are retarded, yes we do
>>2700368
They didn't use to be all clothes, but rich people discovered technical gear, and the rest is history
>>2707378
This is something none of the employees understand, either. REI is usually staffed by white people because black people don't go outside. REI has no shareholders, because they're a Co-op, so they don't *have* to actually care about DEI and ESG. They do anyway. I think a bunch of retarded MBA's at the top saw that we had zero black customer demographic on a random spreadsheet, and figured it's an untapped market. They're wrong, but as a "progressive" company (that union busts worse than amazon) they can't backtrack without getting major backlash. They also hire the same consultants as shareholder held companies, and their default line is probably "More minorities in your ads".

REI used to be actually progressive and it worked, because hippies eat that shit up, but they've changed their market to rich people that want patagucci and deadbird. Thus why all of the new locations are in very expensive areas with expensive leases; the older REI's are not. It used to be run by board members and CEOs that actually went outdoors. They rig the board elections, that are supposed to be voted on by the members, so that they can get in all of their MBA buddies that ruin other stores via layoffs of knowledgeable employees and selling worse gear at higher prices. Last year they fired hundreds of experienced employees and replaced them with 1000+ seasonal workers.
>>2713246
My store only hires people that actually go outside, but your store might not care about that. Even our frontliners go on backpacking trips and shit

>>2718705
How much do youget paid and how much of a discount do you get?

>>2718715
Can't give out exactly what I get paid because it's easy to find out which store I'm at, and corporate already hates me. Incredibly well for a retail job. Enough that it's worth dealing with all of their changes and corporate bullshit.

50% off anything with an REI logo, 30% off anything else in the store, with separate prodeals straight from the venders that are worth it.

>>2718842
I just wanna say the guys at the NJ Paramus store are good if you're familiar with them. I went last week to prepare for the eclipse trip and everyone I met and got help from were great. Good team over there.

if i remember right REI was some trendy dollar store walmart equivalent american chain store but solely for outdoors stuff
they have low low prices for bad products and this is why everyone who shops there is either poor and have no idea what he is doing or someone larping with bad gear just for clout
did i get that right
t. some anon explained REI to me some 5 years ago and this is basically what i remember

>>2718849
No, it's all high dollar libcuck gear with no fishing or hunting section. Mostly they sell fashion products like patagonia and fjallraven. They have the usual citycuck staple of a bicycle section and they have gay pride outdoors and trans rights gear.

>>2718903
>Mostly
my local store is about 30% clothing and 70% gear. My local one has a decent ski/bike shop inside as well but I dont think they all do. The funny thing is this one is right next to Sportsmen Warehouse...I go to both but most in my town go to one of the other.

>>2718846
I've never actually been to that store, but I'm glad they're pretty good. Most REI's do hire well.
>>2718849
Nah, used to be upscale camping gear for cheap, now it's upscale clothing and gear for expensive. It's also a cooperative and you get money back for becoming a member blah blah I'm not typing out my membership pitch

Your pay raises and (secretly) hours are determined by how good you are at converting non-members to members. Along with helping to get promotions, which is retarded, because managers don't sell memberships. Recently, REI corporate has been trying to get employees to push the credit card, which really only benefits super richfags. Some employees drink the kool-aid, many do not. Membership *is* worth it if you go more than once a year and like the coupons.
>>2718903
To be fair, REI never sold hunting gear, it was invented for a bunch of hippies to get cheaper alpine climbing gear. They expanded on that. Most (If not all) REI's have a really good bike selection, and if it's not in stock, even nicer bikes can be ordered. Even specialty mountain bikes. The bike shops are also excellent, you can get a pretty cheap tune up and the people will usually fix simple issues for free if a manager isn't hovering. Some stores also have a ski shop.

REI used to sell some fly fishing gear, but I guess it didn't sell well. It's a progressive company, and has been long before it went woke, so they would never full-dive into fishing, let alone hunting. They'd make a killing but lose half of their customer base in the process over the horror of dead animals.

Also, Fjallraven is probably one of the better brands we sell. I like how sturdy the clothing is. Outdoor research is weird but also great. Patagonia is for prestige, Arc'teryx is hit or miss. Their super technical stuff is great, their normie stuff is kinda lame.
>>2718907
Some stores are more clothing than others, it all depends on the demographics of the customers.

>>2719100
>Outdoor research is weird but also great.
just like me for real
no wonder i like them so much

>>2719725
It looks quite ugly and funcyionally confused is it on clearance

>>2719725
Way too hot late spring through mid-fall. Good with hip waders. Over-engineered. Just buy unitary fleece, it's usually cheaper.

>>2719844
>>2719890
Ordered this instead

>>2700104
You can return used bike helmets, they don’t question it. Your statement is only true because of that though

>>2704162

https://www.goodreads.com/review/sh<wbr>ow/617989458

https://www.amazon.com/Wild-Cheryl-<wbr>Strayed-audiobook/product-reviews/B<wbr>007MIWUG0/ref=cm_cr_unknown?filterB<wbr>yStar=one_star&pageNumber=1

>cheating on her husband
>becomes drug addict
>gets abortion after being a whore
>pretends to go from being a drug addict whore to hiking a thousand miles with a humongous backpack with zero preparation or physical conditioning

Not gonna bother reading this work of fiction or watching the movie. Sounds like a fraud.

>>2710245
I checked up on that Allyship in the outdoor course and apperantly its closed. They are no longer taking any applicants.

Guess the public backlash got them retracting everything.

As with all woke companies, just abuse their return policies. If they didn’t have their 1 year policy, I wouldn’t buy shit from them. I can go test drive a backpack or jacket and return it after beating it to shit. I’ve done this with REI and Amazon. With Amazon I will buy a used or older model and the newer one as well. Then I place the old version in the new box and return the “new” item, effectively getting a nice discount.

I love this board how fuckin absolutely butt blasted and personally offended overweight diabetic d*scord mods get when anybody ever makes a thread about going outside

>>2700086
If you need apparel or the absolute bear minimum of some piece of gear they are often your only option. the "best" items they have are really just the fact that they are available.

there is no reason to ever go to one for any other reason.

>>2710245
REI doesnt have stock. its a co-op.

Their weird fetish for black people is purely ideologically driven.

>>2722478
their return policy is a lot tougher in practice these days. its not 2002 anymore.

>>2707378
the only black people on backpacking trails are there to mug or kill white women

>>2723000
I'll never pass for a woman though :'^(

>>2722931
REI associate hands typed this post

>>2700073
The only /out/ store faggier than REI is Dicks/Public Lands.

>>2723544
and whichever one you're in at a given moment

>>2700086
I need sun protection anytime I'm in the sun, and Mountain Hardware makes great UPF 50 hiking shirts, as well as normal flannels.
Like their trail pants too

>>2723544
Dicks is just a sports store. They don't sell outdoor gear. They sell football pads, golf clubs, baseball helmets, basketball hoops.

>>2728160
Dick's is an 8 billion dollar family of companies with 41,000 employees. Dick's -branded stores do sell outdoor gear. including tents, fishing gear, camp stoves, lanterns, sleeping bags and, formerly, firearms such as duck hunting shotguns and ammunition.

Ignoramous.

>>2728252
This is going in my cringe compilation

>>2700162
They infact have a whole section of their store dedicated to specifically used items and only used items

>>2730211
they do sell outdoor stuff though.

>>2719100
>Membership *is* worth it if you go more than once a year and like the coupons
nice try, shill. outside of the initial rebate thing, i'd have to come back to buy things i dont need.

>>2730211
My local dicks has a section for fishing with kayaks and all. There's a camping section too I think. Don't go there much because there are better stores for hiking and camping goods.

>>2730339
To be fair, it's a lifetime membership. You'll make back your $30 in savings eventually.

>>2730520
and I'm guaranteed to find those savings somewhere else

>>2730535
not always plus you always get the biggest savings on rei-branded items

>>2730211
I'm just here to seethe at this


Anonymous

I really really like the way Slingbags look, but I hear they are bad for hiking since they distribute the load unevenly. How retarded would I be to get one as a daypack for 6-8h hikes with around 2500 feet elevation, hiking in the alps?

>>2716586
Get a bumbag instead. If you really don’t want to be a bumchad then I guess you can use this but I don’t see the advantage over a standard backpack.

>>2716593
There probably isn't any advantage, I just like the aesthetic.

>>2716598
Yes, I'm a self-obsessed fashion faggot, now please answer if this shit will fuck up my spine.

>>2716598
Why yes I choose my gear based on looking badass and not min-maxing stats how could you tell?

They're not bad for hiking. They're stupidly bad for hiking. As in, a load that would have been just fine for 20 miles with a regular pack will give you serious back pain in like 2 miles with a single shoulder design. When I see people using sling bags, I automatically know they just bought it and don't actually go outside very much.

>>2716586
Sorry anon, but they're only useful when you're carrying virtually nothing. That means they're OK in some situations (like when you're fly fishing and just carrying an unhooking mat and some flies), but you're better off just getting a backpack.

>>2716598
If you look good you get +5 to all stats. Totally serious.

>>2716586
there's literally 0 reason to use slingbags if you're not some sort of bike courier

>>2716586
Most slingbags will be too small to put a notable amount of weight in, unless you're bringing kettlebells along for the hike. For day hikes they'd probably work okay; try one out and see if you like it.

>>2716631
>>2716632
I figured as much, I'm already having some shoulder pain when carrying a messenger satchel at work all day.
What's even the point of slingbags then?

>>2716683
So you can swing it around in front of you and take stuff out of it without taking it off. This is pointless unless you're doing this every five seconds at some kind of specialized job.

>>2716602
Did you grow up playing Fortnite? It looks like some shit from that. You're not going to go outside for any substantial length of time based on what you've told us already so we can assume it won't fuck your spine.

>>2716696
>Slingbags are a zoomer thing
The absolute state of you

>>2716702
They're actually a boomer thing like everything else that blatantly wrecks your body and doesn't work.

>>2716586
this board is pure larp
how fucking sad do you have to be to larp fucking hiking?

>>2716759
I feel like there's some bitter, fat, handicapped person in a gaming chair somewhere screaming "LARP! LARP!" in every single thread as a temporary alternative to suicide.

>>2716759
"Hiking" is just walking without concrete. It's a nonhobby. You have to zazz it up. It needs zazz. Larp walking dressed like Aragorn or a tier 1 operator or a cowboy makes it muchbmore fun

>>2716768
That's how I've always felt about snowshoeing. Snowshoes are just a tool that let you get work done in snow without burning 1000 calories per step. "Snowshoeing" is not a thing unless you have no life, and neither is hiking.

>>2716759
Here's me at the Muttsee after hiking up from Linthal last summer. I wore a Helikon-Tex Foxtrot Mk2 with a Metal gear patch because it kinda looks like an ALICE buttpack and I like to LARP while walking around in the mountains. So yes, I LARP. But I do hike.
>>2716768
Pretty much. Watch it cause massive seethe though.

>>2716768
>>2716773
>>2716792
>it's the "hiking is not a real hobby" meme again

So what separates a hobby from a "non-hobby"?

Are these hobbies?

>camping
>backpacking
>trail running
>mountaineering
>rock climbing
>mountain biking
>gravel biking
>cycling
>skiing

Where do you draw the line?

>>2716798
depends on your intention. hobby is anything you do for the sake of doing it, literally everything you can think of can be a hobby
>camping because you can't find any lodging for the night: probably not a hobby
>camping because you love the feel of sleeping in a tent: hobby
>climbing a mountain because your job requires you to do shit on top of it: not a hobby
>climbing a mountain because you love the view and fresh air: hobby
>cycling yo get from point A to point B: not a hobby
>cycling as a form of exercise: hobby

>>2716798
I didn't say "hobby". I said "a thing". "Hobbies" are for people with no life. Snowshoes were invented for serious business like bow hunting moose to feed your family. That's why they exist.

>>2716798
Where the skill floor isn't something a toddler can do.

>>2716807
My dad taught me how to bike when I was in preschool. Does that mean that cycling isn't a hobby?

>>2716806
Having a hobby and having a life isn't mutually exclusive

>>2716803
Fair

>>2716813
>My dad taught me how to bike when I was in preschool. Does that mean that cycling isn't a hobby?
Yes. Racing is though.

>>2716814
What if you're a really bad racer who always finishes in last place? Is his participation in races considered a hobby? If not, then where do you draw the line?

>>2716807
Also, would hiking through the wilderness with a map and compass be considered a hobby? A toddler wouldn't be able to do that.

>>2716819
You don't do orienteering. You take walks on walking paths at parks.

>>2716815
I changed my mind. Bicycle riding is for faggots and is not a hobby at all.

>>2716829
How would you know what I do and don't do?

>>2716830
So what's your idea of a rEaL hObBy? Collecting gear and jerking off to it?

>>2716836
Hunting, fishing, woodworking, songwriting, writing, things that produce value. Exercise is just basic personal hygeine.

>>2716843
So things that are done for fun cannot be considered a hobby if there's no output?

>weightlifting or marathon running
>playing any sport or martial art
>playing chess or board games
>boating, diving, surfing, snowmobiling, ATV riding
>salsa and other forms of dancing
>any sort of collecting
>studying history, philosophy, etc.

None of those things are hobbies to you?

>>2716843
>things that produce value

Fucking lmfao

>>2716846
You may as well just watch tv with half of those things. Exercise is necessary and basic personal hygeine and you should be doing resistance, flexibility, and cardio training. I just wouldn't describe it as a hobby.

>>2716850
watching tv
Also a hobby if the person enjoys it. Not the most productive hobby in the world, but a hobby nonetheless. Just because you don't like an activity doesn't mean it's not a hobby for some people.

>hobby
>a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation
That's it. If you like doing it and you're not getting paid for it, it's a hobby. Scratching your ass can be a hobby if you do it occasionally and enjoy it.

> sling bag
> look at a 16th century equipment book and see snapsacks

Lol its just a 21st century take on an idea that has existed for centuries.

>>2716984
Lol imagine trying to do fucking anything with that piece of shit flopping all around you constantly

>>2716586
just switch sides so your spine evenly fucks up you complete imbecile.
>can fit a 5 dollar bill, 1 shirt and 1 10" rubber dick
>is even marketed as a gimmick
it's a purse you cunt

>>2717013
It's actually perfect size for my bong and my bad dragon

>>2716586
For me, it's the Borealis sling

>>2717297
bizarre lack of ass for a black chick

>>2717300
Makes up for it with the size of her cock

>>2717297
>the north face
sorry i don't support white genocide

ᚱᛖᛞ

What are the dimensions? I've been looking for a pack like this for awhile that will nicely fit my break down carbine. I like having something I can fit my rifle and some basic camping necessities.

Anonymous

>>2717897
Do you have the m&p fpc or the keltec sub 2000

>>2716586
My slingbag is relegated to dayhikes, I mean...couple hours hikes.
It fits a water bottle, a knife and a folding pad to sit on.
And I like it exactly because it's small. Same with most lumbar packs.
One the size of OP's pic is just ridiculous, if you're going with something that large, might as well take a backpack, more comfortable.

>>2716586
>hey i've heard from many, many people who are much smarter than myself that this is a bad idea for a very valid reason
>are they wrong because it lookz kewl?

you don't go outside anyway so why are you bothering with this thread

>>2716602
I've walked with a Maxpidition one strap pack daily for 7 years now. 10,000 plus steps in a row, 15 to 28 lbs. depending. My shoulder was repaired 10 years ago(stitched 4 places in the Labrum. Gets to me once a great while, I've had to Steroid shots in that time when it got to be a problem. I say do it.

>>2716586
Pretty stupid. I understand wanting to look good but that should be towards the end of your list of priorities

>>2716586
I know a guy that has back problems because he biked with a sling bag for almost a decade and never realized the connection.

These things are awful, just get a two shoulder bag.
>>2716595
I've hiked with shoulder strap bags before as an experiment--they're awful. I'd rather just get at 20liter day pack with two straps.

>>2716586
You're not gonna get back problems from a bag that small

>>2719285
Depends how much you use it.
There is no reason to get a single strap pack though. Just get a purse if you want something impractical that you're mostly wearing for style.

Sling bags have notoriously bad ergos for comfort and weight. There are hardly any sling bags that can hold more than 10 or 15 pounds comfortable. You'd need a waist belt. You'd also need an ambidextrous sling bag so you can switch shoulders regularly as not to poopoo your posture. I still like sling bags but they are for carrying guns in that you can sling around fast and unzip and blast someone in the face while urban exing. The most notable sling bags are maxpedition and I wouldn't trust anything else much.

>>2719698
I keep my gat in a neon fanny pack.
No one ever suspects.

>>2716602
>>2719282
Carried a one strap toolbag for a few weeks and got horrific upper back pain, your mileage may vary. I say try it (maybe with something cheap) and see what happens

>>2716807
as a dude who has hiked with a toddler...you are not going very far. So it takes some skill or at least ability to put some miles on and actually get anywhere or see anything

>>2716586
It’s not that crazy of an idea. Ray Jardine does it. He hiked the PCT that way, switching shoulders, and using both if he had to scramble over something. Just because it’s unconventional doesn’t mean it’s undoable. When he wrote the PCT Hikers Handbook making your own gear and packing an ultralight load was unconventional.

>>2716586
So.

I've had the same sling bag for over a decade. The Maxpedition Sitka gearslinger. Why did I buy it, how did I use it? I had a job which entailed climbing up places and using tools. So the sling bag allowed me to bring up tools and materials while having access to them easily.

Years later and while I still feel much affection for it, it's not practical. It has a third strap to stabilize the load and bring it close to your body, but once it starts bouncing up and down due to weight you'll be done in a short while. The most comfortable way to carry it is in the front, on my chest, but that just gets stares.

Just get a small light backpack that can go tightly and comfortable against your body if you plan to walk long distances with it. If you're climbing into windows, up poles and riding bikes, rock the sling.

>>2716586
I use a modified 5.11
pic and link rel, its really nice for day packing, I have mine set up to be good for 24 hours and I can also use it as a lumbar with their series belt and I can attach it to my kelty backpack when I camp
https://www.511tactical.com/skyweig<wbr>ht-sling-pack.HTML
I use an amazon special water bottle holder on the strap instead of bottom slot so I can do everything without taking off the pack
I've been a sling hiker for several years and you cant really beat this one with a few adjustments.

>>2716631
yeah just keeping my mirrorless camera on a shoulder strap was very uncomfortable on hikes after a few hours, with higher weights I'd get fed up with it real quick

>>2716696
Anon it’s a bag from tarkov and that’s boomer vidya ..

>>2716768
>"Hiking" is just walking without concrete. It's a nonhobby.

>>2716792
Wish they make the back of the Foxtrot with something which can vent, but on the other hand great bag.

>>2716586
if you're not carrying a 10/22 takedown in one then they're really good for looking like a faggot

Are military bags /out/ approved or should I buy an actual hiking back pack.

>>2716586
I tried hunting rabbits with a sling bag on the theory that it wouldn't obstruct my shooting shoulder. It sucked.

>>2725979
Buy the pack which has the features you need.
If you want to add pouches etc. military bags are better.

>>2716586
that looks like hell for 6-8 hours if it's full
get a butt pack like the other anon said
>>2716593

>>2716602
>Uneven load distribution
Yeah go ahead man

>>2716602
Unless you're carrying 20+ pounds of shit in it, not likely

>>2725979
https://armynavyoutdoors.com/usmc-i<wbr>ssue-filbe-3-day-assault-backpack-u<wbr>sed/?sku=2128&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj<wbr>0KCQjw_-GxBhC1ARIsADGgDjvW2tIjSwZ7-<wbr>AW0Whfqxnr-mdDbtrYAT9pRoRLHYblAfRXI<wbr>yYx0veUaAvk5EALw_wcB

Got issued this. Worked pretty well. Wouldn’t add much to the outside besides your entrenching tool pouch.

>>2716586
I have a similar one to pic I got to carry my (reasonably heavy) camera.
Really bad move - the uneven weight distribution gets insanely uncomfortable in a short time.
It's convenient to get stuff out if I'm on my mtb because I can just swing it around and rummage about without taking it off.
I knew it wouldn't be good for long walks, but holy shit, I didn't realise just a couple of kilos could get so painful so quickly.
They're totally shit.
Even throwing a windbreaker, drink and small camera for an hour gets sore.

>>2728994
yeah I use one on short day hikes sometimes and i wouldn't use it for anything more than like 3-4lbs which is like a litre of water plus misc bullshit. it's strange because you'd think what you can carry on one shoulder would be 1/2 of what you can carry on two but that's not the case at all

>>2719698
Also called a FANNY PACK.
it's usually just roomy enough for any 9mm pistol and a couple loaded magazines.
And a tube of chapstick and a pack of chewing gum.
Wear around your waist. Which sucks because unless it's insanely tight around your hips it will slide down constantly.
Ove gotten around that by running a strap through the little nail loop and ties around the top of my belly under the ribs Japanese style.
Otherwise around one shoulder resting on back or your chest belly area.
Anything heavier than a liter of water get a backpack.

>>2716586
>I like the way it looks
Nobody gives a fuck what your pack looks like you narcissistic little cunt. Just get the whipsnake 3700000000000 and do your thing.

>>2716760
The image in your mind is probably pic related but the people who currently spam LARP everywhere are actually normalfags who learned it from FaceBerg during the boogaloo retard days.

>>2731408
But only in combination with Le Crevasse™

>>2731993
LARP - Live Action Role Play

I would say that buying garbage impractical gear because you think it "looks cool" constitutes as such.


okay, very cool, i had a tick on my balls once, that shit hurt, also spent like 45 minutes digging one out of my dads shoulder with a Leatherman at a truck terminal once, blood fucking everywhere lmao

>>2723001
>also spent like 45 minutes digging one out of my dads shoulder with a Leatherman at a truck terminal once
Why the fuck would you have to dig it out? Just grab the head firmly and pull.

>>2723015
How? It must not have been a tick if you had to dig it out with a multitool.

>>2723001

"Two idiots in the middle of nowhere", love this type of a movie. You should have filmed the whole thing from start to finish.

>>2723011
>>2723029
buddy sometimes you don't notice it for days. that's why it's important to check daily if you've been out. if you have one that's been there for days, that bitch is deep, the head will break off and you gotta dig it out. I had one so deep in my nutsack once that happened.

Get one of those meme tick twisters with a few different sizes, I thought they were dumb but they're a game changer.

>>2722997
iktf bro. I got entickenated in late fucking NOVEMBER once. in NEW ENGLAND ffs

tick season apparently is 10 months now

>>2723011
>>2723015
>>2723133
you have to twits it to get it out without breaking the head, easy with tweezers but even easier with >>2723147
If you still fuck up just use a needle to dig in and get the head out

>>2722997
You’re allergic to red meat for life now enjoy.

I don't know what yall city slickers are on about. I just scratch them off, simple as

I pull at least 20 ticks off me per year. Only time I don't get them is the absolute dead of winter.

Little fuckers go straight in the woodstove.

I have a bottle of doxy in the medicine cabinet.

>>2723248
have you ever set a foot outside?

>>2723147
>>2723149
I use the lasso kind, normally, but i forgot to pack it when Dad had one deeeep in his shoulder
(also the ones for dogs are a third the price of the ones for humans, but are literally the same, just a different colour)

>>2723325
its literally the same except its blue, not red, bet you are too good to get painkillers from your local veterinarian too

Lmaaaoooo fucking mutt burgers complaining about lyme disease like its the black death. NIGGER come to yurop i fucking dare you, you will be glad you got the fucking lyme meme instead of TBE if you get bitten by a ticknigger here. That shit transfers the moment the ticknigger bites you unlike lyme that is time dependant. I have a relative that is paralyzed from the neck down due to TBE, its the only vaccine i've taken in my life because that shit will FUCK YOU UP<br>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tic<wbr>k-borne_encephalitis

We used to do it with a lit match or cigarette when I was a kid lmao, didn't work, but left a cool looking scar

>>2723444
who even mentioned borreliosis or the US you dumbass retard

>>2722997
Oof. Those fucking things suck.
I once had one latched on the head of my prick. Took me weeks to finally remove it all.

One of the most glaring proofs that nobody on this board goes outside is how scared to death everyone is of ticks.

>>2723592
no one in yurop cares about lyme retard mutt
>who even mentioned borreliosis
>>2723248
>>2723060
fucking retard think before you write, surprised that you even solved the captcha lol

>>2722997
Do any of you know ticks? I can't find shit on pic related. Either it's not a tick or unrecorded species

>>2723641
Nvm, appears to be a wheat Mite

I was sad because i moved somewhere with no possums <br>But now im happy i live somewhere with no ticks

>tfw haven't seen a tick in years because free range chickens

You know what would really suck? A tick. On your DICK.

>>2723611
Y so butthurt?
oh right, the forests AIDS, kek.

>>2723834
Well anon when you dress like its habitat what do you expect

>>2723148
Ticks come out whenever it gets above freezing apparently

hey retards. smother the tick in a dollop vasoline or related. it will begin to suffocate and pull itself out. haven't used tweezers for ticks since i was 15

>>2725200
they're such little pieces of shit

I got bit by one of these niggers today. Am I fucked?

>>2722997
haven't had tick problems since I started coating my clothing in toxic chemicals, it just worx

>>2722997
I found a tick attached to my hip. Pulled it off but the head broke off so I've been carrying the head around in my hip for weeks now. It's nice having a camping buddy for a change.

you fucking pussies, I get them all the time /out/ing in the midwest in summer<br>Just pull em off with pic related, ez. It helps that I can feel when they bite

>>2722997
Thank climate change for that.

>>2725459
>temperature goes up by one (1) degree
>ticks with lyme disease suddenly spread thousands of miles south into areas where the temperature averages 10s of degrees higher
This is what NPCs actually believe, though I use the term believe loosely as NPCs don't really believe anything they just repeat but the man on the TV said or what get them updoots on r*dd*t.

>>2725459
If by climate change you mean the CIA

>>2723001
man its always the balls for me

>>2725313
Depends were you are at. in the western US Forest Aides, because of western fence lizard blood contains a protein that kills the B. burgdorferi bacteria. On the other hand we have rocky mountain spotted fever, which can kill you, but most people get over it.

>>2725585
In the western US we don't have Forest Aides.

>>2723001
>>2725497
Always the balls. I had one wiggling around near my asshole one time when i was a teen trying to get some pussy in a field

>>2722997
walk in the sticks, get ticks on your dicks.

What are those little red tick look alikes?

I got bit by a deer tick today. Am I gonna die? It wasn't engorged yet

>>2726514
Enjoy your rocky mountain spotted fever.

>>2726516
but I'm in Minnesota...so Lyme disease

I was foraging some wild leeks the other day and saw a big tick on my bag. Found a couple more crawling on my leg once I got back on trail. First time I've ever seen ticks in my life and I do a lot of bushwhacking, except usually it's further north where they're not very common.

Gypsy Tate

>>2726514
I hope you get aids, might as well live the whole meme if you paint your nails.

Anonymous

>>2726514
Stop bitching about lyme disease, as long as you remove the tick within 24 hours the risk of catching lyme is basically non existant. Just be glad you dont live in russia or europe where TBE exists

>>2726574
North America has the Powassan virus which can supposedly be contracted in 15 minutes. Rare but not a fun time.

>>2726435
Hell yeah dude. She was half hispanic with big tits. When we got back the car wouldnt start and the token black guy started freaking out about dying in the woods and got everyone paranoid so they all ran the few 100 ft back to a road and called a taxi while her n i stayed in the shaggin wagon until the morning

>Not tucking your pant legsinto your socks
Fucking casuals I swear.

>>2723782
How. Me name you "Hikes with Chicken".

>>2725200
Akshually,I've picked them up even when it's freezing out.It only seems to slow them down.I think there needs to be a fairly long stretch of cold weather before they fuck off entirely.

>>2722997
>bugspray
>bloused boots/putees/pants into boots
>long clothing
There. No more ticks.

Is this tick thing really that bad? Here in Hawaii we have a demonic possession insect created likely by the govt called LFA (little fire ant) it infested every single crevice of every branch, leaf, fern, rock and even in the water. Sounds just like the ticks you have the eatern US? So basically ((they)) have made it impossible to enjoy the outdoors so you turn the TV back on, yes?

>>2726855
>t. has no idea what ticks are

>>2722997
So what? There have been years where I got bit by them over 50 times and nothing ever happened.

>>2726574
I live in one of those orange places and I'm more scared of Lyme because I'm vax maxxed against TBE

>>2722997
>I got bit by a fucking tick in april.
east coast tax

This fucker was in me for about 5 days before I realized it. I'm allergic to Doxy so I couldn't get it. Doc said our area is extremely Lyme heavy so if I feel any symptoms to come back and they can look for alternative treatments if I test positive for Lyme.

I've been having a headache the past 3 days, am I gonna die, anons?

Last year I got a tick on my dick.
A dick tick.

Last time I do gardening in shorts.

>>2727479
Worked for me. Ticks have to crawl on to you from foliage. Tucking your pants into your socks and spraying a ring around your ankles cuts off that access, and hit the knees and waist with it too. Then, spraying some on your wrists gets rid of 99% of ticks. You should only be getting them if you lie down or you're out there fucking bushes. I went from getting a dozen per year down to 0 just by adopting the dorky pants in socks look

>>2722997
im going camping next week. and I did some research and its peak lyme season in a high risk area. FUCK

theres a fucking chance I already have lyme. I was crippled for the last two years by a mysterious illness. i was diagnosed with fucking brain damage for unknown cause, but i suspect it was lyme and I got thru it. It might not be, but I only recently got better and I'm TERRIFIED of lyme regardless.

I recently learned about lyme NYMPHS meaning a teeny tiny poppy seed sized tick. Pic related is a picture published by the CDC to get the point across about how small these fuckers can be. Theres ticks in the photo.

everyone says permethrin, but am I going to kill my friends cats or something if I treat my boots or have permethrin socks in my boots, and then later bring those boots to my friends house with cats in it etc? How easy is it to poison pets accidentally?

>>2730411
>permethrin
The risk of harming a pet is worth the benefit of avoiding Lyme carrying pests.

>>2730411
nigga just do a blood test for it, it costs close to nothing and you'll find out if you're fucked or not

>>2730465
i live in canada, the doctors gatekeep fucking everything here. they'll even say stuff like "there is no test for lyme" or other factually incorrect shit.

Lyme is old news. Somebody should release some Australian paralysis ticks into North America for shits and gigs

>>2722997
I always see these threads, and while being bed-ridden for 2 years does sound like a tough trial for any man, I would risk it instead of suffering the almost total lack of /out/ space available here.

To be stung by a wasp is the worst fate for us. Sigh.

>>2728657
They inspire a feeling of wanting to set them on fire, in a cleansing process. That thing should burn.

>>2723565
you're supposed to light the match, blow it out and immediately hold the hot head of the match on the ticks ass so it dies and let's go. The you wrap a string around the ass and do a side to side motion to pull it out without breaking the head
also I didn't know this >>2725204
cool thanks

>>2727371
Yeah pretty much. It's to make living outside of society harder.

>>2725204
you think its suffocates with its head stuck in your ass buddy? what the FUCK were you thinking that it wont spit its disease into you before it detatches as a finall FUCK YOU. Tweese the fucker. Dont give it time to think.

>>2733104
They breathe through their back

>>2722997
I have gone innawoods for more than 25 years and never once have I gotten a tick bite. I have crawled through dense Canadian bush (and I'm not just talkin about your mom) and never once gotten bit. I've found a few ticks on my boots and pants, but that's it.

I swear you people must STINK like victims or something and the ticks want to end your life instinctively. No excuse for getting lyme disease in 2024 unless God wants you to die.

>going on my first camping trip next week
does picaridin do anything, or do I really need to soak my clothes in permethrin?
Going to camp in the high sierra, have no idea if ticks are bad out there or not

>>2722997
there is a good chance that you will die
and you should thanks american biolabs for this


Hey /out/,
I'm planning to go on a bike trip with this girl I like. It'll be about 70km, so we'll be out for a while.
I bought >pic rel last year for my trips so I don't have to carry all the water I need with me from the start.
Would it be too autistic to bring the water filter on this bike trip date? I'm worried she'll think I'm weird.

>>2722759
First, autistic yes for my taste as I carry always enough water in the first place or at critical cases when the trip is too lengthy I carry a can and a lighter, make a small fire and boil my water.

But second, given she is actually into roadtrips and not some watered down version where she doesn't have to endure or get herself in the dirt, she may think it is cool of you to bring the filter.

That being said, what do I know, I never met a girl who's into getting few miles away from her comfortable city well-heated apartment.

>>2722759
>It’ll be about 70km, so we'll be out for a while.
About 4-5 hours tops?

Yep if I ever had a date with a girl I would definitely ruin it with autistic shit like this. Go ahead bro.

>>2722773
We'll probably stop somewhere to have a picnic or look at the scenery or something. But yeah, it's not too long, I could just bring like 2l of water and be fine.

>>2722776
I guess you're probably right.
I should secure her first and then slowly warm her up to my autism when she's already comfortable around me.

I did 90km on saturday and had two large and one small bidons. Had half a large bottle left when I got home. Temp was about 32C.<br>I'd be more concerned with making sure there is a toilet stop halfway for your lady friend. Getting to the end of a ride with empty bottles won't kill you.

>>2722759
>>2722780
First of all, you're overthinking it. She won't have a strong opinion either way most likely.
But on a more general level, why are you trying to hide who you are so much? If you're looking for love, wouldn't you want your partner to love you, rather than some weird projection you force yourself into to appeal to her?
Use your brain power on finding a fun route that isn't too challenging or boring and planning a nice meal for the picnic instead anon, that'll be worth a lot more.

Just buy a bottle at a grocery store or gas station you'll be passing.<br>Fucking mental illness I swear.

>>2722807
This anon is correct. If you're worrying about a girl thinking you're "weird" then you've already lost. Find someone who appreciates your "autism".

>>2722807
Beautiful answer, this anon knows how it is.

>>2722939
At least he has one that shares his interests and I couldn't be more proud of OP.

>>2722807
this. don't overthink and don't be someone your not, because in the long run it'll only make things worse

>>2722807
Look man, I get what you're saying but I just don't want to spook her.
I know female brains just work different and I'm worried about giving her the 'ick' or something and then this beautiful little thing that we might have shared would have never happened.

>>2722759
If something like this freaks her out, she's not the one for you. You do you, don't pretend to be someone else. Otherwise she's not necessarily into you but rather who you're pretending to be. So unless you're willing to become that, don't pretend to be. Honesty and sincerity go a long way. Either she'll think you're clever or a weirdo, either way, you'll know what you need to.

>>2722807
>why are you trying to hide who you are so much?
Bruh you can't just reveal your whole self at once, recipe for disaster

Update:
It's happening next Thursday. I roughly planned a route that would take about 100km to complete full circle but has an exit point at about 66% where we could just take a train home if we are too exhausted.
We met up yesterday and planned it out together, got some equipment we were lacking. I even told her about the water filter and she didn't seem thrown off by it.
I'm so excited.

>>2725458
Nice, Anon!

I’ll just ask because everyone will want to know: what are the chances of sex?

>>2722759
>I'm worried she'll think I'm weird.
No dude, Jesus Christ. If she asks, you tell her what you're telling us: "I didn't want to be carrying all that damn water with me all the time"

>>2725475
Then she might say: "It's not that much water what are you talking about? You can't carry around 2l of water? Eww, gives me the ick"
Don't worry dude, I played this all out in my head already.
>>2725471
Sex on a bike trip? In the burning heat out in public with kids watching? Oh you bet your ass we're fucking.

>>2725479
>the ick
If she even mentions "the ick" in a manner that isn't ridiculing other women for saying it, leave her immediately. If you're biking in the middle of nowhere, puncture her tires and then leave her.

>>2725479
>Eww, gives me the ick
Cut your losses, abandon ship.

>>2725490
I don't think you understand.
I can't keep fucking cutting these losses, I'm already vaginally bankrupt, nigger.

>>2725491
>im pathetic
Yeah we got that the minute you started overreacting about a water filter

>>2725491
You'll still be a sad virgin, just one without any self-respect because you stuck around with a woman who is actively looking for reasons to shit on you

>>2722759
it isnt about the water filter anon it is about you being confident about your water-filter. or your dick. or yourself in general. that is all you need to know.

>>2722759
>water filters are weird

do zoomers really? the fuck is weird about a water filter.

>>2726355
See:>>2725479

Anyways, we're meeting up in two hours. I'm gonna have to get ready soon.
I made up my mind and I will bring the water filter, don't know if I actually pull it out, iykwim.

>>2726374
>No automatic enema apparatus for biking
NGMI

>>2725479
>the ick
>because of a water filter
Lmao wtf dude I know the sexual market is fucked up nowadays but jésus...

Update:
I showed her my water filter and she loved it. Then I pulled out my little camping stove and brewed us some coffee after we had been biking for two hours and she loved that too. I think she's head over heels for me.
We even went swimming later in the trip and that was the first time I saw her in underwear.
Yeah boys, I think I'm gonna make it.

>>2722759
Where do you live that you can't just drink from a creek?

>>2729010
Literally anywhere with a deer population on earth below 11,000ft if you aren't stupid

>>2729112
It's gay to have sex with a woman now.
Fascinating times we're living in.

>>2722759
>70km
That's like 4 hours, no?
Just a liter of water a piece should do it.

>>2722759
If you have gyatt rizz you can skibidi her only in Ohio.

Hey /out/, she just asked me to do another tour tomorrow. <br>How do you make a move on an /out/ girl?

>>2722759
No, if anything you are autistic for overthinking such a minuscule thing. Enjoy your trip.

>>2722759
i don't think ive done a hike where i ever needed more than 4 or 5 water bottles. just load up on these bad boys and ration (brand doesn't matter)

>>2730563
just sit close to her when you stop for a rest under a tree to eat and give her a look.

>>2730563
ask yourself what a bear would do

>>2722759
let us know how the date went, anon
Anyways, if she likes you at all she'll look over it.
You don't want to spend too much time with someone who wouldn't at least find it interesting

>>2722759
yeah show her your colostomy bag too since you need a iv line to go on a 70km 'trip' sick man

>>2733449
At least I have a woman who is willing to drink my piss.
>>2732398
I'm gonna put it this way, many more trips are planned.

>>2723327
If she gets the 'ick' over you doing something thoughtful and interesting, then she doesn't care about your 'beautiful little thing'. You can always just tell her in advance you want to try out a new piece of gear (your filter) but if she wants bottled water you'll plan in a stop / carry it for her. Then you're both thoughtful and true to yourself.


>>2723840
He represents the need to bring back involuntary commitment as a public mental health tool.

>>2723844
Why is he wearing a Nascar uniform?

>>2723846
stop molesting children.
>butbut muh priestarinos!
all kiddy diddlers go in the same chipper.

>>2723840
According to the book, he was nothing like the movie portrayed him to be. Also he died a virgin.

>>2723845
Some copy pasta that doesn’t really make sense to me, equating McCandles to a nascar racer who enters a race in Mexico on a bicycle or something like that

>>2723845
He caused so much seething that an anon took the time to edit the pic and write a shitty copypasta, not worth reading.

>>2723840
is this even remotely shocking for someone who became a recluse

>>2723844
if you knew a loved one who had survived (U.S.) mental health facilities, you wouldnt even joke about this

yes, people who don't follow the herd are generally considered weird m wow

>>2724102
The decriminalization of mental illness has been an unmitigated disaster.
Housing the mentally ill on the street is worse, both to them and the communities they blight.

>>2724145
they allow garbage like the vagrant scum thread and fucking pipe smoking

this board has the most fucked in the head jannies on the site

>>2724194
>they deleted my homo thread bloo bloo bloo
Are you going to bitch in every thread fag

>>2723840
Who cares about how he was perceived in society? This is the outdoors board, not the society board

>>2724145
>>2724194
The jannies are lazy. That's why they let the shitposts take over the board. They only do the bare minimum and they don't have any real interest in the quality of the board.

>>2724197
>defending jannies
lol

>>2724200
unfortunately, /out/ is overrun with the mentally infirm who don't care about actual outdoor activities, but just to use the 'idea' of the outdoors as a stage for their ineffectual coping mechanisms.

>>2724270
shhh, we will get you into a secure bughouse as soon as we can, the pendulum back swing is going to make this inevitable.

>>2723847
Kiddy diddlers get to avoid going to the chipper as long as religious communities are around to shelter them.

>>2723844
No. The ONE thing he did right was go out in the woods. Weird, crazy, maladjusted people are better off if they go out into the frontier. Unfortunately those are getting harder and harder to find. That way, they either don't make it (problem solved) or they do make it and live far away from everyone else. Better for all involved.

>breaks into your cabin and steals your shit
What was his problem?

>>2724359
Didn't he """break into""" a publicly available hunting shack with no supplies?

>>2723840
Clean it up, jannies! Stop being lazy!

>>2724102
>who survived

the entire point is to shove undesirable people that nobody likes into an institution where they will never escape and therefore interact with other human beings. most people do not want to 'fix' the mentally ill, they just want them gone. Its the same with prisoners. I do not care if you 'rehabilitated' a murderer or a theif, keep that animal away from me.

>>2724347
Why wouldn't he just buy a plot of land out in the frontier though? They are dirt cheap.

>>2727526
Because he was deeply mentally ill and lacked to ability to make and follow basic plans

>>2727526
The "Alaskan frontier" hasn't existed for 50 years at least

>>2727610
They still set plots of land on it to this day.

>>2724175
Homelessness is a housing problem. If we didn't have policies that made it illegal to build cheap housing we would not have homelessness like we do. It just looks like a mental illness/drug addiction problem because those are the people who can't compete for the limited housing available. If you gave them money they'd get a place and in the process displace someone else into homelessness. We need more homes and we need a lot more small and cheap homes.

>>2727619
>Homelessness is a housing problem
hahah, no.
It's a mental illness issue with drug abuse stack on top, when you make housing for these people, they won't use it if requires following basic rules, and when you let them "self-govern", they burn it down in short order.

>>2723869
>he died a virgin
how is that a bad thing?

>>2724102
>if you knew a loved one who had survived (U.S.) mental health facilities, you wouldnt even joke about this
>how do they feel about mixing drug addicts in with them now>
good, bad?

>>2729197
What does this have to do with McCandless again?

>>2724131
>Don't own a TV or trust people that watch it
>See yards as urban dead zones
>Don't worship cars
>Don't trust corporate food or water
>See followers of organized religion as ignorant hypocrites
>Believe wetlands and forests are more important than "Infrastructure"
>Don't worship money
>Don't care about status and dispose people covered in status symbols
>Don't slather yourself in artificial scent chemicals
>Don't succumb to group think
>See obvious logical fallacies in public education
YOURE A FREAK!!! PUT HIM ON A WATCH LIST!!!

>>2727619
>There just aren't enough houses bro
>Just give them money bro
dear god you're retarded if you believe this
Never mind that every time this has been tried it's failed completely... because they prioritize illegal immigrants over the locals.

>>2727619
Small cheap homes filled with the mentally ill, poor and drug addicted are called barrios. You have a very unrealistic view of the world.

He didn't do his research and Alaska is one bitch of a teacher and doesn't give a fuck about you.

I mean he found a dead moose and let the majority of the meat go rancid because he had no idea how to preserve the meat. Come the fuck on dude.

>>2723840
But then the natives would say our "good hygiene" is what makes us stink out the forest and scare animals away. To them, our modern smells are as foul and offensive as an unkempt smelly person.

Some would say he was LARPing correctly.

>>2727526
He would have had to get a job and save the money. Right out of college he decided that none of that was for him, obviously.

>>2729252
>I'm a defective social parasite!
>give me money, housing, exemption from all laws and expectations of functionality, also sexual access to your children!
No.

>>2730816
>give me money, housing, exemption from all laws and expectations of functionality, also sexual access to your children!

Did it feel good knocking down that strawman you just built

>>2730828
makes this post:>>2729252
calls this post strawmaning:>>2730828
lol, take your meds faggot.
also; stop perving on kids.

>>2727702
>>2727619
>is homelessness a housing problem or a mental illness and drugs problem.

Both. In Finland everyone who wants can get a house. There are still homeless people and fucked up drug addicts, but relatively less than in other places and they are relatively better integrated.

>>2730788
He killed it with a single .22 round. It died instantly.

>>2732074
He could have killed it with a paper airplane for all the good it did him.

>>2732074
The one that he didn't preserve and ended up wasting?

>>2723845
>>2723894
Someone made a copypasta that has made /out/ have a seething meltdown for years.

>>2724340
>religious communities
easywithe,,antismitisms.

>>2723845
Let's pretend his passion was Nascar driving...

Christopher McCandless sets off, from California in an old car he rebuilt himself (he replaced the fenders and painted it), on a trip to the Daytona 500. He only gets across the state line when he runs out of fuel because he forgot to fill it up. Instead of simply walking to the nearest gas station or flagging down help he decides to push his car over an embankment and set it on fire. He then proceeds to walk on foot to the nearest car lot (which happens to be in Mexico for some reason, mostly because he burned up his map in the car and he's been taking backroads.) He finds an old bicycle in a garbage dump and uses that.

He finally gets to the car lot and buys a fixer-upper for $50. Before leaving the car lot he has to change a tire, which he replaces with the solid rubber donut. He buys fuel and heads off to the Daytona 500 again. Only he's heading deeper into Mexico and eventually ends up broken down in front of, "Autodromo Internacional de la Jolla" due to no water in the radiator. The engine block has seized up. Luckily, there's a race about to start. Christopher...er "Alexander Superspeeder", who changed his name, pays the $125 entry fee for the race.

Unfortunately, Alexander Superspeeder doesn't have a race car. He does however have an old bicycle still. He uses the bicycle to race. He makes it only 3 laps before he is too tired to steer straight and veers off into a race car and is killed.

Some Jew picks up his story and writes a book about his life and how he followed his dreams. Another Jew makes a movie about it. Armchair racers around the world adore him.

The End.

>>2733737
>McCandless takes up racecar driving
>dies
>a bunch of terminally indoors anons who used a Power Wheels one time seethe endlessly about the fact that he didn't die the way they wanted
>they never take up driving
ftfy

>>2733737
Based Nascarposter strikes again

>>2730788
>>2732074
The forced scene in the film where the guy tells him "be careful of rancid meat" and then he goes and does it anyway without remembering. Then his little nepotist bitch sister (the actress whose parents are directors) recollects it later like we weren't observing the entire thing. What a shit film.


I don't know how to use a compass. I cannot read a paper map. I only use my phone.

>>2723474
I've got you beat. I don't even know how to navigate with a phone. All I can do is use GPS in the car.

>>2723474
>>2723478
Fucking rookies. I can't use a GPS. My wife has to give me directions when I drive.

>>2723483
I grew up using Mapquest and I would print out the turn by turn directions. Now I use google maps. I'm wondering if I should try waze or something else just because google maps is kinda shit at telling you which lane you need to be in for turns

god i love being able to use a phone to hike though, you just start walking a little bit and you can see if you are going off trail

>>2723474
When is elon musk going to just add a waypoint hud to our vision like videogames

>>2723474
I carry a generator and a satellite dish so I can access the internet on my laptop while I hike

>>2723495
all I want is like a little stand so I can look at my phone before bed when I'm out

I implanted the brain chip. AI gives me all the direction I'll ever need.

>>2723474
I carry a marble sundial with me at all times.

>he doesn't use a plumb line, pocket watch and protractor to navigate
I shiggy diggy

>>2723474
just follow where the red arrow points to
ez

>>2724719
instructions unclear got detained in Mypmahck authorities think I'm a spy? please send help help

>>2724719
yeah but i am east coast usa and i cannot figure out am i suppose to rotate it left or right to account for magnetism or whatever

I've never used a physical map and compass before but I assume if you're completely lost you're supposed to orient the map so that north on the map aligns with north on your compass and use landmarks to figure out where you are

>>2724755
>landmarks
this does not work in a dense forest lol

>>2724759
That's why you go towards a trail or body of water, assuming you know what side of it you're on

what do you mean you dont know how to read it
the arrow points fuckin north
its not that hard

>>2724764
>a trail
Lmao,what fun is that?

>>2723474
How do I adjust for magnetic declination on my phone?

>>2724755
basically you box yourself in. river north, road west, ridge south, trail east. keep an awareness of where you are. also the op reads as his hobby being paper map navigation. i can do both and hiked for the first 30 years of my life only using paper maps, but i rather just quick check my app on my phone and not spend time on it. rarely need to, but if i feel like it its easier. the real issue is how digital navigation being so quick makes people more likely to over check where they are or how many miles are left.

>>2724888
Can you name me a single national or state forest that doesn't have a single trail?

Well, this is my first post on /out/, so if I’m a newfag here, as a high mountain and speleo search and rescue operator, I can tell you that learning even basic land navigation and developing your orientation skills can save your butt like you have no idea. Among that, knowing first aid, basic survival, and for the love of God, knowing how to start a fire (the number of poor unfortunate souls who could have been saved from perishing in stupid accidents and the cold is freaking overwhelming, anon) is the minimum that everyone who wants to engage in any activity or lives in a wild area should learn. Go to a land navigation course and practice, take a damn wilderness first aid course with certification, take a basic survival course and practice even in your home park. Seriously, anon, if you knew the amount of stupid people who go to the woods or high mountains without experience, lacking safety equipment, and only using wikilock, believing that nature is like on YouTube, it’s excessively abysmal. But it’s even sadder to find them and carry their bodies on the sked and see their faces of fear and the tear marks on their faces. Get trained, do it for yourselves and your families, please.

>>2723485
>you just start walking a little bit and you can see if you are going off trail
this. Ive done 2 mile through-hikes where Im basically glued to the screen to make sure im not veering off trail

>>2724922
>Among that, knowing first aid, basic survival, and for the love of God, knowing how to start a fire
Gonna do this so I can feel like I got special training just like Big Boss

>>2724128
Wait you can't tell were you are by just looking at the trees, the rocks, the sky, and slope of the land. I find I don't often need to look at a compass or a map to know were I am. I do carry them, and know how to use them. Just don't need them much.

>>2724990
Not really special training, I always carry a first aid kit, and at least three forms of fire starting( lighter, water proof matches, and knife and ferro rod.) make that 2 knives a steel cup a steel single wall water bottle, Braided Bank Line, paracord, walking stick( or cane,) Ramen( or cop of noodles, and a candle.

>>2725021
What do you mean by "first aid" and "basic survival"?
Is that not just knowing how to treat a wound with antiseptic and dressing it? What is basic survival aside from keeping warm and dry?

>>2723474
That's not something you should be bragging about anon. It's a flaw, not a feature. Go learn a useful skill you dumb fucking faggot.

>>2725057
phone navigation is a skill
its 2024 grandpa

>>2725060
What are you going to do when your cellphone dies, you never learned to use a paper map so didn't bother packing one, and you have to find your way back to your vehicle?
Let me guess, that'll never happen to you. You're careful. You've never broken a cellphone in your life and you packed a spare battery pack. Well, you're throwing the dice on dying of exposure a quarter mile from your car because you never learned how to navigate properly.
Throw the dice all you'd like, just don't brag about it like you're some sort of badass because you take stupid risks that could be easily avoided.

>>2725070
plug it into the backup battery

>>2725076
You.... shouldn't touch grass. It might legitimately be bad for your health. Just you though.

>>2725024
This is a genuine question, by the way. I really want to know what knowledge I should have to prepare for unexpected

>>2723474
most basic crash course
>red arrow always point north'ish
enough to prevent you from going in circles
crash course in navigation
>you are on the summit of red, you want to camp next to the small pond at blue, fog is dense and you cant see shit
>lay out compass on map like this, side of compass along your planned route
>ignore the actual compass needle for now...
>turn twisty dial on compass so north align with north on the map
>this is your compass direction
>turn around so compass needle north align with twisty dial north and walk in the direction of the arrow on your compass
and thats how you get there

>>2725136
Good stuff anon, thanks for posting

>>2725109
You need to be able to get back is something go wrong. There is no 911 out there, it only you, and what you bring with you. You might have to walk 30+ miles to get back.

>>2724755
The compass has 3 purposes:
1. Where is north? Aka map alignment
2. Am I walking in fucking circles in this dense brush? I can't tell, but the compass can
3. Is the landmark I spot in the horizon the one that is actually north in the map, or is it something else entirely?

>>2725136
might want to mention magnetic declination, how to calculate it, and how to input it in your compass
otherwise doing this will give you the wrong bearing right from the start

magnetic north and geographic north aren't the same

>>2725109
First aid for bleeding, fracture, hypothermia
Nav enough to head back whence you came
Survival for setting up shelter, starting a fire, signaling for rescue
And most importantly, ALWAYS leave a detailed note of your itinerary and someone who will notice if you don't return on time

>>2723474
Right when I started to learn to drive garmins were getting popular and my parents got me one. I've lived in the same city (Houston) now for almost 30 years and only know a few of the major roads. Sure I'll recognize a name sometimes but have no idea where anything is relative, be it an area, street, or whatever. I think this GPS stuff ruined my sense of directions while driving.

>>2725548
>>2725574
>hurr durr he didn't make his basic explanation complicated enough
If you're trying to navigate long distances in poor visibility without knowing how to use a compass you'll probably have a bad time, regardless of whether the anon on a Moroccan oil painting forum mentioned fucking declinations

>>2723487
I refuse to go /out/ until it'll look something like pic related

>>2725670
>>2723474
>>2724754
>>2725152

I made picrel for a landnav quick rundown. It is simple, you don't need to be smart to understand this, it just looks complex

This post >>2725136 is gud, but it's only one part of the process

>>2723474
I'm the opposite of the modern human. I navigate by landmarks and memorized routes more than street names, addresses, and gps.

>>2725548
no, i specifictly didnt mention that. because its not relevant on short distances and will only cause confusion and raise the bar even higher. a compass and map is some of the simplest navigation tools there is, knowing it makes for great hikes and might save lifes. the world was discovered by less accurate means...
going achtually on magnetic declination and other autistic facts makes no sense.

>>2725548
It's magnetic north and the centripetal axis. The axis of spin isn't polar (non magnetic).
The centripetal axis is referred to as Geoditic north or True north. I've never heard it called geographic north by anyone versed in navigation but I live in America and maybe that's a euro thing.

>>2726077
>it's only one part of the process
Am I the only one around here who knows what "crash course" means

>>2727859
That was not a crash course, that was one little tid bit of a larger process.

>how drive car?
>there's the gas pedal

How about we stop assuming everyone is fucking retarded and give the necessary info instead of just enough to get someone confidently lost

>>2727706
If you're going to use a map with your compass use it right, skipping magnetic declination can kick you off course significantly over a few km.
Unless your aiming for broadly "over there"

>>2727947
>stop assuming everyone is retarded
>he said, in a thread full of retards who can't read

>>2727843
Not euro
I am translating from french, where the term makes sense. Thanks now I know how to call this in anglo.

>>2727950
>skipping magnetic declination
why does everyone always explain it in such a complex manner rather than saying "east coast us turn the compass a little to the right, west coast a little to the left"

I spent a while trying to learn from youtube videos how to navigate with a compass and map and just found it confusing. Then I went outside and spent 15 minute practicing "can you find NNE?" and "what is the bearing to that stop sign?" and it was the simplest thing ever. Magnetic declination adds a bit more confusion. For me, I always got confused about adjusting left/right if you're positive or negative adding removing if taking or following a bearing. I found it much easier to visualize the needle tending to point slightly towards the mississippi from where I'm standing. Take your bearing like you normally would and then just rotate the compass so it points towards the mississippi in the amount equal to the absolute declination. Or just buy a compass with adjustable declination because if you're in a survival situation you want to be 100% positive you won't fuck it up.

>>2723474
This is the absolute basic,skill of an Infantryman.
It’s really not that hard to learn and understand.
However,it’s all good for me,having been an Infantryman the past 22yrs,but there will be somewhere,on the Internet,which can explain this basic skill?

>>2723487
>add a waypoint hud to our vision
peakvisor is the closest you'll get right now.
>>2724755
>you're supposed to
keep track of where you are along the way.
too much to go in to here. takes a fair bit of practice to get it right.

Colonel told me to find the little red boxes in the woods, and I did. It’s pretty easy

>>2723474
Never even seen a compass in person. I only use my GPS and Google Maps.

>>2727957
Most people actually call it geographic north in the Caribbean so something to keep in mind if you have the misfortune to be dealing with thirdies.


wild animal feeding thread, here’s me feeding a deer

please don't post the skin parasite video
please don't post the skin parasite video
please don't post the skin parasite video

I wonder if a deer would eat a McDonalds?

>>2725171
never seen it on deer, seen it on dogs and horses though

>>2725168
for me it's the moose with millions of ticks

>>2725166
enjoy your chronic wasting disease

>>2725712
I’m fine! Anyway here’s me enjoying the presence of some friendly armadillos.

Fed some grass to some sheep! Really cute, even had lambs!

My wife and I feed the ducks in a local park fairly often. We’re in the South, and in the winter it’s a mix of local ducks and Canadian geese, ostensibly having flown south for the winter.

The geese are just as tame as the ducks (though with a bit of an asshole streak; they’ll bite and chase one another). They’ll all eat right from our hands and have no fear of humans.

Do these geese just fly in from another park? They don’t seem wild.

>>2725166
Why would anyone feed TheROUSes?

>>2725889
They probably have indeed spent their whole lives in human-adjacent areas where they were able to never learn a healthy fear of humans.

>>2725889
>The geese are just as tame as the ducks
I'm guessing they aren't around their young, because here in Canada the geese are assholes.

>>2725885
Watch out for bubonic plague unironically

Not wild but I feed some farmer's goats the weeds on the side of the road, its free labor for him when I think about it

>>2726109
You're thinking of leprosy. Bubonic plagues carried on fleas and usually you only see it out west in deermice in the States.

>>2725712
>>2726109
>>2727070
you sound like someone with a really fun life

>>2729846
kitfox,,,named Foxy,,,,although i cantell the 2 apart?

>>2725166
Well, technically, I didn't feed it, but it did eat the leaves of my bushes. Took this last fall, from my backdoor window.

>>2730125
When I opened the backdoor to take a better picture, it spotted me and ran off. Here's mommy giving me the evil eye, as I tried to take a picture of her deer kid.

>>2730187
yes! i know it as a canada jay but i believe its the same bird.

>>2726460
Oh yeah, yr right bud
>>2727592
Thanks anon, i love my life

>>2725166
a high level source just informed me that OP has died from chronic wasting disease

>>2730387
additional information: he was having unprotected sex with the deer.
Remember to wrap it if you are going to slap it.

>>2730419
died living like a true /k/ommando...

I gave him this worm.
I didn't except him to make such a mess of it, eating it alive and pulling it to bits.
We're still friends though.

>>2726460
Ground squirrels/prairie dogs too.


What's good hammock brand?
I'm in Eu
Need one for 2 pers.
Must have mosquito net and detachable rain cover

>>2725462
any hammock with materials that deters bugs?

>>2725462
Wise Owl and One Wind are Chinkshit brands that have pretty good reviews and lots of chatter on FB. DD is a British company that has good reviews as well. Not sure if you can get any American brands; Dutchware, Warbonnet, Henessey… they’re all pretty good.

Just make sure you get an 11’ hammock (however many cm that is) and attach a structural ridgeline.

>>2725469
>Warbonnet
found it on amazon italy
but damn over 220$

>>2725480
>Suffer now (financially)
Or
>Suffer later (being stuck outside with shit gear)
You choose.

>>2725481
>if you don't meet my personal criteria for consooming you'll have a bad time
lol, no

>>2725480
Sorry I meant the Hennessy Explorer Deluxe Asym Zip Hammock

Says it's for one person.
max capacity of 136kg
With my gf we'd exceed by a little that capacity...

i found this site that sells warbonnet in eu looks trustworthy to me but idk https://thehammockproject.mozello.s<wbr>hop/

>>2725484

damn, and for that price I still have to make knots.

>>2725462
ticket to the moon has kingsize and honeymoon hammocks

>>2725484
>$220
Yeah, it’s a little expensive for what it is. Henessey and Eno are both like that; overpriced for the sake of being over priced.
>sleeping two in one hammock
Doesn’t work. All gathered end hammocks are single occupant. You can lounge with two but you won’t sleep that way.

>>2725462
Two people sleeping in one hammock is not happening, sorry. Use it as a sex swing and then retire to your two single hammocks.

Hennessy seems kinda expensive but (most?) come with a attatched bugnet (which is great) and a tarp. I have the explorer deluxe and its big, super comfortable and much much sturdier than your average eno or ticket to the moon and they look sick. They are heavy tho. Mine weighs more than a ultralight 2p tent.

Eno is decent but very basic. Some of their hammocks are very lightweight and the price aint too bad concidering the weight and quality. Eno aldo makes a decent bugnet with a zipper opening.

I have no experience with DD Hammocks, but I believe they are pretty good and the prices aint too bad.

Ticket to the Moon is cheap but I dont know anout the quality. Check reviews.

Steer away from cheap chinese crap - unless youre unsure if hammocking is for you. You could get two hammocks with bugnet and tarp fir €20 each just totry, and upgrade later.

Warbonnet and Superior are really good but expensive and you might have to import them from the states.

>>2725534
2nd this, 2 people with inevitably be smashed together by gravity. You're better off getting 2 separate hammocks. That opens up better site options and the ability to tune sleeping gear. Dutchware would have to be imported by they do some dual hammock gear.

>>2725465
You can buy a can of permethrin and treat any tent or clothes. Problem is when it gets wet it can transfer to your skin, which is probably not great.
The Hennessy Jungle Explorer has a double-layered bottom that skeeters can't bite through. I've used it plenty in malaria/dengue areas.

>>2725494
The quality is great though. I've used the fuck out of mine for years. Besides, that's the minimum price I'd pay for a traditional tent.

>>2725534

Hennessey is worth it because of all the little touches that make their hammocks outdoor equipment, like the little interior pockets on the tarp for each tarpline and the integral tensioners. It's clearly a product that was designed by someone who is totally obsessed with and autistic about hammock camping.

>>2725826
Tom Hennessy <3 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YcVcK<wbr>dt1P10&pp=ygUYSGVubmVzc3kgaGFtbW9ja<wbr>yBsYXNoaW5n

>>2725462
I bought a 20€ "Naturefun" Hammock of amazon years ago and its amazing desu, just get an additional tarp and youre set

>>2725573
Pretty sure smashing is the goal, anon

>>2725462
DD hammocks frontline is the only hammock that should be taken seriously, everything else is garbage and made for hanging in your living room

>>2725462
Some EU brands, maybe made in EU:
>Lesovik
>Bushmen
>Amazonas

Maybe Haven safari (XL size). It's a US brand but some specialized stores sell them in EU, or you can just pay the import tax.<br>Otherwise there are tree tents.

>>2726945
Lesovik is retardedly overpriced for what it is, Bushmen straight up sucks.
If you want a Polish brand Tigerwood is good, but I don't know if they sell internationally. Also you can check your local manufacturers, hammocks aren't exactly rocket surgery.
DD Hammocks Chill Out is the most comfortable hammock I have used, the extra width really makes a difference. It doesn't come with a bug net but you can add an external one.

>>2727532
>x is too expensive
>y is cheap but shit
>z is good but [not available in the EU] or [not from the EU]
Pick two: Good, cheap, EU
I just got some Bushmen stuff, and I'm not in a hurry to purchase from there again. Shipping (within the EU) took a month, they didn't respond to emails and the quality and fit seems subpar. It was fairly cheap though. I'm going to supplement with hamak.de, kuhla.hu and lesovik next.

>>2727539
Lesovik are hunting for suckers, mediocre quality for American prices.
I literally imported a tarp from Hammock Gear from the US because it came out cheaper than Lesovik's equivalent, with lower weight and better materials (and most likely better workmanship but I have not used Lesovik's tarps, only their other products and they weren't anything amazing).
Seriously go check your local producers, everyone's making hammocks these days since anyone with a sewing machine and a bit of experience can make one. It all comes down to the material used and the size. You can score a good one cheaply if you do some research.

>>2725933
Anon, that hammock is fucking tiny; it’s under 9’ long. It cannot fit a fully grown man. Not even a grown Mexican could fit in it. I thought Europeans were tall.

>>2725469
Warbonnet is a wonderful hammock. I have a blackbird that I bought at the height of COVID (when camping shit was 50% higher than normal). Use it probably three to four times a year.
Despite being a great hammock, it's not really worth the price tag, unless you hate having money and are a gear queer. I won't even deny my buyer's remorse; at times I prefer my tent, since I don't have to search for a suitable place to pitch that. Hammocks you need to scout out your campsite a bit if you want to use them.

Bought hitch hammock and one wind. It just works.

What's the deal with hammocks? I heard you were never supposed to pitch your tent under a tree because branches can fall off and crush your tent, but hammockbros don't seem worry about this? What about sticky tree sap?

>>2728171
>I can’t find to trees in a forest
Ok

>>2728216
You heard wrong. Trees provide an excellent wind break and a little rain cover, sort of. Just look up for dead branches. Inb4 some o about a tree killing someone.

>>2728206
Using the truck's exhaust to warm the hammock at night = peak comfy

>>2725462
>Leśny Ludzik
>Wydra13
Have seen good reviews for both brands, but haven't pulled a trigger yet. For now I'm still using one from Decathlon until I can decide which one to choose.

>>2725462
My cousin only hammock camped and now he’s dead. A bear ate him alive. He had just eaten honey. He used to always say, “I can move camp so swiftly thanks to my hammock”. Then a bear ate him because of the hammock. He tried to escape but the hammock flipped him around like in a comedy movie. The bear kept flipping him round and round until he was completely stuck. He had a jar of honey in his hammock too

So sad, hammocks are dangerous

>>2725481
I dunno, Anon. This was true years ago, when all of the Chinkshit was tiny or really heavy. 10 years ago the only budget tarp options were a Kelty Noah tarp or a blue one from the hardware store. Now you can find cheap 1.6oz silnylon hex tarps on Amazon.

Quilts are still expensive. Always have been, always will be.

Pic of my tarp.

I made it from 0.9oz membrane silpoly. The long sides have a 3” cat cut, and I think the beaks are 14”. The ridgeline is 1” grosgrain folded over o to itself (the same way Warbonnet tarps are made) rather than flat felled or a French seam (partly a skill issue lol). Guy lines are Zing it, and I use loop aliens for the suspension.

In the pic it’s in full storm mode, with the sides propped with a stick and anchored. So far I’ve only used it in two storms with a lot of wind, and I think it was more sturdy this way (rather than being anchors straight to the ground), but it was probably just in my head. If it’s not windy at all the beaks can be pulled back like on the far right, so the setup only uses 4 corner the outs plus the ridge line tie outs.

>>2725462

OP I just saw something about gearfortrees hammocks. They look like they are in Spain and make what looks like a nice set-up. Sorry for the necro post but cool to see some euro-hammock cottage companies

>>2725462
Any recommendations for an underquilt? I live in Finland and would like to have an underquilt that would be suitable from spring to autumn. Right now I have a basic bitch ticket to the moon single that I had bought as a teenager. I may have to replace the hammock as well because it feels kind of small sometimes to me. I am 191cm tall.
>>2727573
They do offer a XL version of the DD frontline. That is 3 metres long and 1,8 metres wide. They do claim on their website that the normal frontline is supposedly comfortable for users up to 196cm though. The XL version is supposedly comfortable for users up to 213cm according to their website.

>>2730100
Quality to price ratio I don't think you can do better than Cumulus. Get the large size because their large is everyone else's regular. Shame they don't let you customize underquilts as even the large is a bit on the narrow side and I'd gladly make it wider.
Or maybe you can but you'd have to ask individually, they don't offer it on their site like they do with top quilts.

Also a 3m hammock will not be comfortable for someone taller than 180 cm, look for 3.5m options.

>>2730100
>not even 10’ long
11’ (335cm) is standard.
>muh width
Doesn’t matter.

>>2730113
>width
>Doesn’t matter.
Wrong.

>>2730115
>doesn’t understand the basics
>tells others they’re wrong
Let me guess: you’re European.

>>2730146
>doesn’t understand the basics
Ironic.
Just to illustrate with an extreme example, try a 30 cm (1 foot) wide hammock, tell me how it went.

I'm planning on making an underquilt with Climashield Apex insulation. Should I use the same weight for the underquilt as I would for a topquilt? Or will I need a bit more or a bit less for the underquilt?

>>2730179
Anon, I’ve been sewing my own hammocks for a while now. See my latest tarp by scrolling up.

Extra wide hammocks are pointless. Your analogy is retarded. Obviously it has to be wider than12”. Roughly 60” is the sweet spot. Anything beyond that adds very little to a hammocks comfort. I once made one roughly 14’x10’ just for the fuck if it. It was dumb. Wide hammocks just end up with a lot of extra fabric hanging from the sides.

>>2730505
Oh you're that retard. The sweet spot you pulled out of your ass is just the width of a standard fabric roll, manufacturers go with that because they can't be bothered sewing multiple panels together. There is a point where width stops making a difference but it's much further than that.
Your tarp looks like shit btw.

>>2730508
>sewing multiple panels together
https://ripstopbytheroll.com/collec<wbr>tions/xl-wide-fabric

>your tarp bad!
Let me guess: you use something from Amazon?

>>2730510
Hammock Gear Quest, thanks for asking.

>>2730513
My DIY tarp is better than yours. Feel bad, consoomer fag.

>>2730515
Somehow I don't. But feel free to repost your piece of shit unprompted in every hammock thread, maybe someone will compliment it some day.

>>2730518
It’s lighter, has beaks and extra tie outs, I know exactly what kind of thread was used, and it was seam sealed on both sides of the ridgleline.

>>2725462
i got a cheap ass nightcat last year that has all of that, includes poles which you can use to pitch it or just keep the top off you

>>2727543
>American prices
Do you think EU prices are typically lower than American prices?

>>2730785
Polish prices definitely are. Lesovik are 2-3x more expensive than other manufacturers while not being any better.

>>2730789
Can you provide a competitive EU alternative? That's what the thread is about, after all.
I ordered their hammock sleeve. I did think it expensive, but I didn't find any other EU made sleeve in my search.