Why do backpackers wear hideous colors?

Why would you want other people to see you before you see them? That would make me very uncomfortable, like sitting at the very first table in the break room with your back to entrance. I don't own a single piece of clothing or gear that is any color except Earth brown, olive drab green, and stone grey. The whole point of going out in the woods is escaping humanity and becoming invisible and being left the fuck alone.

I wear all multicam with a matching bag and I get weird looks from the colourful fags.

>>2710223
>Earth brown, olive drab green, and stone grey
ugly

>becoming invisible
larper

>>2710223
They don’t. The worst you could come up with is sky blue (normal) and red (normal). This is a meme from the 90’s that simply won’t die.

>>2710227
Yes they do. I see it all the time. 90% of people I encounter on trails are wearing bright, conspicuous colors. I can see them moving from 120 yards through thick new growth.

>>2710230
they don't care because they are not paranoid and/or autistic

If they fall down they want someone to see them before they die. What retard would hike on the Appalachian Trail in military camo ?<br> You can literally get lost from the trail at night when you go take a piss if you do not pay attention to what you are doing.

>>2710223
So it's easier to spot them from height when they get lost.

>>2710230
No, they don’t. You’re making things up, and it’s fucking stupid.

>>2710234
If you're lost then just hang a blaze orange bandana on your person. No reason to permanently lock yourself in to looking like a fag at all times. Also, you can't hunt birds in bright colors. Turkey and ducks are some of the most useful survival foods because of how easy it is to find these animals during the daytime, but they see colors very well. You also need to be able to hide from dangerous people who mean you harm. You might not even have cell service to call the police in the woods.

>>2710238
How the fuck can you get lost when every phone has gps and there are hundreds of free offline map apps now? Real life is literally Skyrim. I go miles off trail on a regular basis and don't give a fuck.

>>2710223
>So autistic he dislikes even being perceived
Yeah, total mystery. Can't even begin to figure it out.

>>2710269
It is an extremely unnerving experience to suddenly notice someone on the trail who is already looking at you when you spot them. I don't like it.

>>2710272
Maybe they should wear some more bright colors so you can see them sooner.

>>2710231
I'm trans and tripple vaxxed btw not sure if that matters

>>2710223
>>2710280
You definitely are, yeah.

>>2710285
It very obviously was, though.

i think it's funny to wear loud ridiculous clothes

>>2710223
>That would make me very uncomfortable,
This is because your brain doesn't work very well.

The onlg reason to go retard bright colors is if you are afraid of getting lost and would want to be seen. But the real reason all the people itt are salty about this is that they buy their gear on clearance and only the ass ugliest colors are ever left in the clearance section. Normal people would buy muted or normal colors like navy or burgandy or forest green or brown or grey or black. But those colors don't go on clearance. What goes on clearance is electric blue with neon yellow suppers.

so they dont get hit by cars. Nothing more retarded than someone wearing full camo, dark colours at dusk by the road

>>2710223
Enjoying getting shot by drunken rednecks I mean hunters.

They think it'll help the helicopter find their jacket when it's in a log jam after being ripped from their body when they tried to cross a flooded stream.

>>2710223
People have liked wearing bright colors since before recorded history. Even uncontacted tribes have been spotted wearing brightly dyed cloth and/or body paint. You're just a mentally ill antisocial retard.

>>2710409
Or he just knows how to dress himself.

>>2710223
This, but unironically. I always think about it when I notice someone on the trail from several hundred yards away because they’re wearing a red jacket or something. Wearing loud colors for a quiet /out/ing has the same feel as driving around driving around with untinted windows

>>2710409
>check regular colors
>full price
>check dipshit orange with electric retard blue stripes
>45% off
Gee I wonder why you guys are buying these

>>2710437
Only niggers and spics tint windows.
>>2710438
Gray is ugly, and does nothing to improve your own inherent malodorous hideousness.

>>2710438
686 disputes your whole argument. Imagine getting btfo by a company that uses Floyds for models lmoa

>>2710409
I agree for clothing and colors in regular settings, but in the woods it really looks like shit to have a pop of some bubblegum colors.

Technically speaking, blue is more easier to spot in the outdoors, even more than red.<br>Thoughts?

>>2710449
That would depend on the saturation and value. A burgandy and navy would be pretty comparable. A burgundy #800020 would be more discreet than a neon blue #0cfff4. A navy #1c2e4a would be more discreet than neon red #ff073a

I miss going out in the 1990s and 2000s before Instagrammers turned the outdoors into a fashion show and popularity contest. The outdoors were better when they stayed in the cities where they belong.

>>2710223
Natural colour on the outer layers neon colour on the insides.

I do actually go outdoors during off season bad weather and do night time hikes. Summits etc. I do solo bivvy trips etc. so so signal colours are needed in case of emergency because I can't expect to have reliable signal. and I don't want to get blasted by some drunk hunter.

BUT if care this much what others wear you are an autistic spaz.
X2hp

>>2710223
Because that's what's available at the local REI.

>>2710225
I get most of my cloths from the thrift store. I can get lightly used or in many cases totally unused high end clothing. The only thing I buy new are coats, hats, underwear, shoes and socks... the rest are thrift store treasures.
Also
Learn to fix zippers bitches.

>>2710454
Congratulations, hikers have always liked bright colors. Also, you weren't even born then you zoomer faggot.

>>2710230
>I can see them moving from 120 yards through thick new growth.
well that means those outfits worked as intended

>>2710453
I'm sorry to tell you this, but you have severe autism and homosex.

If you don't know when big game seasons are, that is your fault. And if you do allow me to introduce you to something to put on OVER your normal colored clothing. How are you guys this fucking stupid

>>2710409
>socialist
>calling anyone else mentally ill
xD

>>2710224
Sounds like the multicam isn’t working then. STILLNESS is 95% of successful camouflage so if you’re wearing camo patterns to hike in bc you want to be hidden, uh lol you won’t be because you’re walking on a trail and obviously identifiable as a human. Very pointless to wear camo when you aren’t actually stalking anything.

>>2710478
That's a pic from the 1970s you god damn retard. The decade before smartphones and social media had more subtle colors and fewer people overall. You wouldn't know because you're a newfag who "discovered" the outdoors after iPhones came out. Kys.

>>2710504
multicam is kinda cucked anyway, unless his camping trips involve sniping terrorists in the afghan mountains. i can see something like a properly matched realtree or even flecktarn tarp being not completely useless though. i personally default to olive drab as my color of choice and introduce other/bright colors that make sense
>bright yellow guyline so i don't trip on it
>dark blue underquilt so i don't mistake it for the hammock
>bright red fuel bottle because it's a bottle of fuel
>bright teal wallet so i don't lose my $$$ and car key

>>2710441
>>2710446
>lmoa

>>2710223

>why isn't everyone as autistic as me?!?!?!?!
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2710460
Just carry a blaze orange handkerchief

>>2710480
I could set up an ambush and mug them as easily as I could fall out of bed

>>2710550
Imagine pouncing on a trailtwink and just holding him down and dryhumping him. Humping and whispering in his ear how small and sexy he is. Not actually raping, just letting him know a man could and fear it for the rest of his life every time he goes on a trail hahahahaha

>>2710563
I have fantasized about meeting a hung stud on the trail and letting him take it...would be hot.

>>2710484
Apparently you're not a golfer

>umpteenth fashion thread devolving into overt gay fantasies
You're all gay, just different flavors of gay.

>>2710454
You mean you miss going outdoors when you still had knees

>>2710550
>mug them as easily as I could fall out of bed
On a completely unrelated topic, what race are you?

>>2710786
>different flavors
>not different shades
Missed opportunity

>>2710250
Lol, I like how he never responded to you because when you said "you might need to hide from dangerous people who want to do you harm", he knew he was wasting his time with a low IQ larper.

Can you give me a realistic example of needing camo for camping/hiking because of people wanting to do me harm? I'm trying to come up with some scenarios that are realistic, but none of them involve an apocalypto chase. I either die or survive the ensuing fight, but I will draw my CCW and shoot. And if I have to do that, it's probably because they attacked me as I'm hiking.

>>2711524
For me, it's the flipper zero with a broadband rf jammer to make your cellphones not work. Then it's a pneu dart gun set up for a mule deer sized animal. Then... we'll see if you guys like my burried shipping container

>The whole point of going out in the woods is escaping humanity
nah, it's about enjoying the beauty of nature. just stay in your basement if you want to escape humanity.

>>2711524
How do you draw and shoot someone who has planned their approach for several minutes without you being aware of their existence? Why are you defending the practice of being conspicuous at all times for no reason? That is such an objectively stupid concept.

>>2711558
Only urban people think that way

>>2711562
>>2711569
Why would you need to "escape humanity" if you already live in the countryside?

>>2710223
>Why would you want other people to see you before you see them?
Most of them are planning for the moment the heli rescue team needs to spot their dead bodies easily.
People like me, for example, are comfortable with the fact that our earth tone clothes will mean not even wild animals will spot us until our remains start smelling.
We will become one with the Earth. Our clothes won't, because they're polyester, but we will.

>>2711584
Lmao countryside. Nigga you a yuropoor

>>2711608
>he doesn't wear wool, leather, linen, cotton, hemp
ngmi

>>2711584
Because there are still people and I still have to have a job

I bought an orange knock off sierra designs parka from Uniqlo because
*orange seemed to be the colour most associated with it.
*kind of a 1970s vibe that i liked.
*orange looks decent on me.

>>2711615
Why does northern Finland have some civilization while Murmansk in Russia is completely empty?

>>2711584
Because the countryside is industrialised even in the most rural of places, atleast in the west.

>>2711608
>until our remains start smelling.
You fucking stink right now to a wild animal, they see the world through their nostrils.

>>2710223
It's like the Rainbow flag, it shows others that they're faggots.

>>2712639
>t. poor
Mom's basement doesn't count as /out/ my nigga.

>>2712646
Found the faggot. I've not seen my mom in over eighteen years, I own my home and go out every weekend because the Olympic Peninsula butts up against my property, so good job on being so wrong, faggot.

>>2712646
>buys clearance colors
>you're poor

>>2710230
It's because hunters exist and they don't want to get shot.

>>2710223
-a lot of them don't
-safety (hi vis)
-it became fashionable & common in design based on the hi vis

>>2712897
>deer season is usually november-early january
Ah yes, the prime time for hiking. And with plenty of sweet december foliage for a hunter to think I'm a deer!

>>2713008
Unfortunately, a lot of boomer hunters will shoot without properly IDing their target because they're eager to get the "deer" near the edge of the woods. That's why I always make a lot of noise until I'm far enough in that there aren't any people.

>>2713056
There are so many things stupid about this. 1. Deer are crepuscular and hunters only really see them at 5am-7am and 5pm-7pm. 2. Deer tags usually go to specific public land units or private land and the parks people hike in don't have legal hunting. And the common public land units sound like a war zone in the east and south where this would be a problem. In the west hunters usually glass their deer far before getting the chance to shoot them. 3. At that time of year the deciduous trees have nearly all lost their leaves and you're visable anyway. 4. Pic related. There is no reason to buy an ugly jacket
, a unitasker, you couldn't wear around town normally without looking stupid.

>>2713114
1. Boomers don't care
2. I live in the northeast and state forests are multi-use, also boomers don't care
3. See >>2713056
4. Boomers. Don't. Care.

>>2713139
>northeast
Are boomers even allowed to use a rifle there? I lived in maryland before and it was muzzleloader/slugs only.

>>2713153
Fuck off, you never actually have to wear these for longer than an hour or two don't you?

>"I don't want to be shot by hunters/boomers/red necks!"
Skill issue, if you get shot then clearly you weren't camouflaged enough, you should be able to get close enough to record their voices & play them at different pitches to fuck with them.

>>2710527
I just have a multicam shirt because it was the cheapest abrasion resistance layer I could find that would also seal up well against the 8-legged blood balloons.

>>2710230
Wearing bright colours is a good idea for two reasons:
1) Hunters exist, it's a good idea to make it clear you're not a wild animal
2) if something goes wrong, it's a lot easier for mountain rescue to spot someone wearing red than it is to spot someone wearing camos
>I can see them coming
They don't care retard, you're not in vietnam

>>2713815
Why don't we just take this to its logical conclusion.

I need people to see me, y'all! Safety first! Y'alll, there's redneck trump voters out there and I could get lost!

>>2710223
>Why would you want other people to see you before you see them. That would make me very uncomfortable.
Want to know what makes ME very uncomfortable? Getting shot.

>Like sitting at the very first table in the break room with your back to entrance
So you don't worry about getting shot out in the wild, where there could be some idiot out hunting, but you DO worry that someone might get you from behind at work? Are you doing ok?

>>2713820
>Want to know what makes ME very uncomfortable? Getting shot.
What if they're trying to shoot you on purpose?

>>2713821
What the fuck do people think is going to happen if they answer their phone? They going to get the call from "Cell" or something? People I work with are like this. One of the fucking goblinoids found a phone in the park the other day and they genuinly took it to the police station because they got it into their heads that it was a drug dealers phone and he'd be angry if they tried to return it.

>>2713823
If I answer spam calls then the people making the calls know when I'm awake and double up on how much they do it. It's annoying as fuck.

>>2710223
"The wicked flee when no man pursueth, but the righteous go boldly as a lion."
Basically, you're gay.

>>2713845
This. And they add you to a list of schmucks who answer the phone

It’s mostly an east coast thing in my experience. I’ve seen it out west but yeah the REI pastel faggots usually like attention and being looked at and somehow believe in their mind that they are going to have to worry about getting lost on crowded clearly marked trails with rangers on them every couple of miles. They aren’t trying to be super hard core survivalists just get some exercise and enjoy pretty nature. They’re mostly middle class nerds.

Personally I tend to hike those types of places in fall when it isn’t as hot, crowded, or just stick to the way less commonly known spots. Either way brown Carhartt work pants to fuck off thorns and stickers, moisture wicking base layer, wool flannel, and my duck hunting jacket all repurposed from my hunting shit are what I usually wear. To each their own I guess.

>>2710223
Because if you take something off at camp and then later pack up to go, you're more likely to see your gear and not accidentally leave something behind. Especially when the conditions are adverse and you need to get a move on.

>>2710223
normies only care about being noticed / seen doing things, every action taken is for the purpose of bolstering the artificially supported, advertising-indoctrinated social media ego which has replaced their free will and personality.

very few people do anything uncomfortable or outdoorsy for the actual self-fulfillment or benefit to health. people who unironically just walk through the woods to walk through the woods are doing so to be SEEN doing it, to be SEEN taking the instagram selfie at that scenic overlook.

You've effectively fallen for their simplistic peacocking and have had your time and energy STOLEN just by discussing this

Go outside

>>2716664
You started off with a good point but then you got pretentious with it, so now I'm just going to tell you to go back faggot

>>2715454
Do normies seriously have that problem? I have never been in the habit of throwing shit all over the place and leaving it there. I have never lost anything important or expensive in my life.

>>2713856
Lions are nocturnal stealth predators. What a dumb scripture.

>>2713823
Nobody uses voice call anymore except scam artists and debt collectors. If you aren't texting or emailing me then we do not have business.

>>2713820
Most hunting accidents are people injuring themselves or their hunting partner with NDs, not random people in the woods being mistaken for wildlife.

>>2710223
The claim that a lot of people wear bright colors while hiking just proves you don’t hike around other people. It’s literally a non-issue. Yes autists, there are a few exceptions. But most people aren’t doing this.

>>2716739
Never underestimate an eastoids ability to söy up everythind

>>2710223
>Why do backpackers wear hideous colors
Uhm... because it is based?

https://www.rei.com/c/hiking-shirts<wbr>

Grays and blues seem to be the most common, followed by muted pastels but in earth tones. I should add “bright colors” to this meme.

>>2716963
Trekking poles are the gayest shit I have ever seen in my life and objectively inferior to walking sticks.

>>2717002
Being gay is based and walking sticks and poles have different purposes.

>>2717002
>everyone is wrong except me
God damn you faggots are just insufferable. Get over yourself, Anon.

>>2710223
You'll never see me in red, for what it's worth. I don't go full camo mode but bright colours are not my deal -- the idea that you see me way off before I see you is not a good feeling.

>>2716963
>>2717002
>>2717029
>>2717073
Imagine using a fucking stick to walk when you should constantly be scrambling. They're even less than usless in rocky areas. Why do easterners need them for their little hills? Is it the mud? Is the mud slippery?

>>2717164
Bipedalism is not functional in the mountains, especially heavily forested mountains with pervasive ground debris and obstacles. You would know that if you ever took one step off of a trail.

>>2717185
It's a good thing God gave me arms.

>>2717164
Poles (and natural sticks) are helpful for uneven terrain and stream crossings. This should be common knowledge to anyone who actually goes outdoors.

>constantly scrambling
Not applicable to most of the eastern US. Even in the exceptionally rugged Adirondacks and Whites you aren't CONSTANTLY scrambling on most routes.

>>2717187
Okay, then crawl around on all fours and see how well that works out for you.

>>2717201
>Even in the exceptionally rugged Adirondacks and Whites you aren't CONSTANTLY scrambling on most routes.

On trails? No. Off trail? Yes, obstacle clearance techniques basically become your default mode of locomotion and you will almost certainly succumb to a serious injury without a walking stick sooner or later. Attempting to take game via stalking while having your hands occupied with a rifle or shotgun is virtually impossible. In the southern Appalachians I actually attach a hook to my walking stick as a climbing aid and it's constantly in use whenever I'm bushwhacking. The Adirondacks were not quite so bad, still very dangerous country for people who don't understand basic climbing form though. Wear suspenders.

>>2717344
The Appalachians are physically harder to navigate than probably any wild region in North America, in part because of the dense forest cover and the absolute mess of dead blow down trees that make up the forest floor. When I watch videos of people doing anything /out/ related out west it looks like they are frolicking around in teletubby land.

>>2710250
>No reason to permanently lock yourself in to looking like a fag at all times.
Fragile masculinity
>You also need to be able to hide from dangerous people who mean you harm.
Lmao

>>2717347
>are physically harder to navigate than probably any wild region in North America, in part because of the dense forest cover and the absolute mess of dead blow down trees that make up the forest floor.
> When I watch videos of people doing anything /out/ related
maybe people who have no idea what they are doing and without any prior outdoor experience should not be walking those well kept trails just for the social media clout then

90% of people these days havent been taught how to use compass and map in middle school so how could they manage a straight basically paved road that has shops to cater to him calculated for every day walk

>>2715454
>imagine being /out/ with more than 20 pounds of gear
>imagine not knowing exactly what you brought, and exactly where it is at all times
Skill issue.

>>2717355
I'm in the east right now and I'm 20 miles from the nearest gas station. This isn't Europe.

>>2710223
I just wear normal clothes with some boots in my pack is my wet weather gear. It really depends on the hike and length. The hideous colors and gear like that is just what the mainstream brands sell.

>>2717376
Lol. Might as well be. Appalachians are eaaasy to navigate. There's legit landmarks every couple miles in any direction.

>>2717359
>imagine needing to limit yourself to under 20 pounds of gear just so you can keep track of it
Skill issue, indeed

>>2717424
You're talking about trails. I'm talking about the wilderness. You can't see more than 50 yards most of the time, landmarks are completely useless.

>>2717406
>weight doesn’t matter
Let me guess: camping is supposed to be uncomfortable, right?

>>2717490
20lbs is how much my dick weighs. Buy a plate carrier and train.

>>2717436
Lmao wilderness on the east coast. Just look for the cracker barrel billboard and walk over to it.

>>2710223
Antisocial freaks should sui instead of dragging down society with them

>>2717499
>t. got lost in Fremont park once, hasn't left Sacramento since

>>2717506
Neat. But this is the outdoors board, not the society board

>>2717499
Northern New England, upstate NY, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky are full of places where even the most experienced outdoorsmen could easily get lost and die, and where you could squat and live off the land for the rest of your life and probably never be found.

>>2717499
Eastern America is kind of like Japan, densely populated urban zones that abruptly transition into huge mountainous regions that are virtually uninhabited. The West has lower population density, but also way less forest, so it's not really comparable. Lots of shit is way too easy out west.

>>2717187
You leap around on all fours like a little fox.
Furry.

I love my bright jacket. If I hurt myself people can see me. <br>What are you hiding from, anyway? There's nothing out there.

>>2717604
Unironically, why do you look like that?

>>2717604
Mirin those thick and juicy elephant calves, bro.

>>2710227
Counter example this absolute faggotron I saw at the top of kili I can only assume he was paid to wear this shit

>>2710223
what's with all those tactical gears and clothes?

why can't you wear normal clothing?

straight jeans, a normal shirt and if it rains, a plastic bag.

>>2710223
Have you got your tactical stealth whistle in matt black too?

>>2717604
cost 2 euro not 700 and protects you better then yours

>>2717604
>What are you hiding from, anyway? There's nothing out there.

>>2717618
The crinkle is annoying and you look stupid

>>2717612
>I saw this guy this one time
Check your autism and give a serious effort to understand what averages and exceptions are.

>>2717604
There are people. I don't want people to see me before I see them. Most people are harmless but some are not and I want to scrutinize every single person I encounter without their knowledge and decide calmly whether I want to just continue on normally or go around them. If there's a bunch of guys on 4 wheelers with guns saying the N word in conversation then I'm not going to let them see me and I'm going to a quick press check.

>>2717597
>less forest
To be fair, this is because the west coast actually has mountains. There are rain forests in the west as well.

>>2717665
>anecdote
>counteranecdote
just going with the flow of the thread anon

>>2717669
>4 bros hanging out plinking talking freely in nature
>"They said nigger! I better get ready to kill if needed!"
Are you actually black or just really sensitive?

>>2717696
I'm actually black and I've been a victim of unprovoked violence multiple times.

>>2717692
Neither of which proved OP’s point, because OP is just parroting memes.

>>2717723
Why are you leaving your designated containment zones? Who is funding you to move places like arizona and colorado? Why are you suddenly appearing?

>>2712339
Because Finland is a first world functioning state. Russia is a mongol scrapyard.

>>2717740
I grew up in the country and I will stay there. If anyone ever confronted me in a secluded area and I detected any kind of racial hostility however slight I will draw and fire upon that person instantly without any intermediate escalation or even a single word.

>>2717752
>I grew up in the country and I will stay there.
Based.
>If anyone ever confronted me in a secluded area and I detected any kind of racial hostility however slight I will draw and fire upon that person instantly without any intermediate escalation or even a single word.
But here you turn into the usual suspect again. Should've stopped at step 1.

>>2717764
I don't care. Black people largely deserve to be mistrusted and even hated, but when that is turned against me, I'm going to be the one who walks away. It's just survival.

>>2717767
>more Django: Unchained fantasies
Yeah man sorry can't help you with that.

>>2717770
Then what do you suggest I do? Give the other guy any fucking chance whatsoever to win when the stakes are life and death? Being called a larper is a very small price to pay to stay alive.

>>2717773
>in this scenario ive made up in my head a guy confronts me and calls me blackie and i shoot him because otherwise he would have surely shot me
>i spin my gun, tip my hat and say "nothing personnel kidd"
>i get on my horse (also black) and ride into the sunset

>>2717774
I'm sure all violence seems like a fantasy to you. Unfortunately for me it has been a recurring feature of reality. Sometimes that was my fault and I had options to avoid it. Other times that was not the case. Either way, I plan to win.

>>2717776
>Sometimes that was my fault
>Either way, I plan to win
Usual suspect.

>>2717777
If you ever see a black man on the trail, just make sure to be polite. That's the best policy with everyone anyway.

>>2717778
You're not doing yourself any favors.

>>2717723
Statistics say that was done to you by other blacks

>>2717793
I've met maybe 3 other black people in my entire life

>>2717796
Then you're clearly a statistical outlier and your personal experiences mean absolutely nothing to anybody else and you're a fool if you think they're any kind of predictor of behavior.

>>2717796
So it's happened 3 times then?

>>2717793
that's not how statistics work, friendo

part of me tells me i should logically own something bright if i ever get into trouble and need someone to find me<br>most of me knows if i ever die innawoods i will never be found because i was just too cool to walk along trails

>>2717802
No, everyone I've ever had a violent altercation with was white. Some of them were strangers who I did nothing to.

>>2717669
Brugly you need meds. Badly. It's not okay to be this schizophrenic.

>>2717889
I'd rather be schizophrenic than have a false sense of security

>>2717723
>unprovoked attacks
Pot to kettle
And saying nigger doesn't cound as provocation to attack someone.
Anyways stay strapped with your glawk fawty for killer racists coming out of the trees.

>>2717347
>The most predictable low rolling hills in the most populated region of America are the hardest to navigate
lol. lmao even.

>>2717605
With the jacket zipped all the way up?
I just did it for the photo because I thought it would be kinda funny. It was drizzling though and I did have the hood up, just not zipped up like that.

>>2717605
Thank you homie

>>2717617
Hidden Gorge at Mount Remarkable

>>2717618
Not true. That guy's arms would get wet and his hood would fly off in the breeze. Plus that poncho would be sticky and not let out the sweat. Ponchos also don't work that well with a pack, and thin ones rip very easily since there is lots of extra material. If you have to buy a new one every time it's not very good.

>>2717653
I wouldn't worry about it

>>2717669
Hmm. Interesting point. If you are solo hiking in the middle of nowhere or a place where hardly anyone goes then perhaps I understand. People like myself who wear bright colours are usually on well known trails or safer areas in general when they do it. Many shell jackets are made for alpine conditions, so you can understand why people want to be easily seen in that scenario. You wouldn't want to blend in with the snow if an accident happened.
If you were real back-country and alone I can see that you'd be more nervous about your personal safety.
I also have a camo jacket if I want to do some more stealth camping type stuff.

I just think trying to look like you're hiding while on a public trail is a bit silly.

Pic is me on Mont Blanc with my camo shell jacket. Didn't climb the mountain, just took the cable car as we only had a day in Chamonix.

>>2717669
>>2717723
>>2717776
Go be disingenuous somewhere else, lad.

>>2717776
This isn't true but I wish it were.

>>2717723
Perhaps you should stop hanging out with your family

Only faggots and women care what other people wear.
>nooo you're enjoying the outdoors wrong, I don't like the color of your jacket.
How fucked in the head do you have to be to actually think this?

This only proves that the stupidest threads are the most engaged with threads.

>>2718084
Would you like another ten boot threads instead? Or maybe a savotta pack thread?

>>2718004
Anon, while a disposable poncho isn’t a very good choice, you’re wrong about them being “sticky” and not “letting out the sweat.” Ponchos work very well at being ventilated. Thats one of the reasons people use them despite their failures. And ponchos slip over backpacks.

>>2718091
those are definitely the only other options, right?

>>2718024
Grow up

>>2718101
I guess they do have the ultimate vented armpit hey? That makes them flap around a fair bit in the wind, though. Probably less good for driving rain or more severe conditions in general. You also have to get a certain type to slip over a big backpack otherwise it messes up the whole system and your entire back is exposed.
Here is my buddy from a hike. The poncho sorta worked well for him, but he ended up tucking it under the pack because the wind was just blowing it around with it draped over his pack.

>>2712664
>lives in western Washington
>calls people faggots
Pot, Kettle, etc.

>>2718247
Lad... don't be a disappointment to yourself. You're already a disappointment to me.

>>2717612
Nah this dude is megabased and literally living in your head rent free.

>>2718370
I honestly don't know what you're talking about, "lad".
I don't care at all if I've disappointed you. What have you ever done? Why do you think I should care? You are nobody.

I am very proud of the person I am. I have a wonderful wife, hobbies, and friends.

>>2710454
And those people you are describing don't wear bright colors. Social brained normies actually wear less bright colors than ever before because they are afraid of standing out. The only people that still wear bright colors are upper-middle class white people with strong values, humility and a self image that won't get shattered by someone not liking their color choice.
>>2710455
You guys ironically care more about your appearance more than the people you project onto that don't care.
>>2710522
The 1970s IS before smartphones anon...

>>2710475
based. the thrift store is pretty good for brand name synthetics, especially base layers. i did find my olive drab LL bean down parka on FB marketplace for $20 though

>>2717347
we don't use switchbacks, which is based. i've climbed some easy normie-tier mountains like mt success, that sometimes had long lengths of smooth wet granite. some of the harder mountains require you to basically climb up a series of boulders. also the large amount of fallen trees the second you go off trail to find a campsite. for me, it's the long trail

>>2717596
i was in the green mountains for the 1st stage of my eclipse journey and there were plenty of remote unpaved roads with very steep ascents and lots of sharp curves. it's the perfect place for some tesla faggot to kill his battery and roll backwards off the road just trying to get to the trailhead, which can be miles down another dirt road that abruptly ends

>>2717752
how stereotypical

>>2717937
lmoa even *

>>2718173
Then why are you dressing like one

>>2713008
Well first of all people poach year round, and you just really don't want to scare other people in the woods and have them think you are a bear. You want them to know its a human asap.

Second reason hi vis makes sense is for rescue, pretty self explanatory but if your friend breaks their leg and you are both dressed in all black, by the time a rescue heli comes in at 6pm you would be tougher to spot.

Additionally if you are in real dangerous backcountry, for example foothills of the rockies in alberta where you will see bears every other week and share spaces with them. Some of these bears have been conditioned to be afraid of Hivis colors because of oil and gas and logging guys honking at them and giving them a hard time when they see them. This is part of the reason that yearling bears are so dangerous because they have not yet been trained.

Pic rel is a black bear that I had the pleasure of sharing a block with doing some forestry work, I basically followed him into the treeline but before I did I put a splash of diesel on my shoulder and test fired my spray onto my boot. It's all part of the deterrant package.

>>2717347
>absolute mess of dead blow down trees that make up the forest floor.
>trees out west dont blow down
lol

>>2717347
I tend to agree but it does depend, and has more to do with the underlying geology than the tree typing. For example there are much more difficult to navigate types of forest like those in which it used to be swampy and all of the black spruce have since died creating walls and hurdles everywhere of extremely sharp impassable small trees. But because this happens in flat areas where water can accumulate the terrain isn't so rough and in the winter can even be said to be nice.

Contrast that with appalache you see rolling shield hills everywhere, loose rocks from glacial sedimentation, etc.

It really varies though because if you are walking through a mature forest offpiste the spruce trees with limbs all the way to the ground like you see in Kinbaskett, revelstoke, etc are very much impassable.

>>2718531
and just generally sharper, maples are really welcome compared to a hemlock or a pine, quite prickly.

>>2717597
>the West has lower population density, but also way less forest,
Citation needed. For example Montana has 26 million acres of forest, West Virgina only 12, Washinton State has 26 million acres, Maine only 17 million acres, Oregon has 29 million acres of forest, NY only 18 million, CA has 31 million acres of forest, VT and NH combined only 9 million, Idaho has 22 million acres while N. Carolina only 18 million....

So, I am curious as to why you believe what you wrote....

>>2718534
>Washinton State has 26 million acres
Sorry, that should be 22 million acres but still...

>>2718536
So you've never worked a single blue collar job.

>>2718538
This just in: plumbers wear high-vis.

>>2717597
>huge mountainous regions that are virtually uninhabited
...and the Rockies are what?

>>2718538
The conversation was about the clothing people choose to wear while engaging in outdoor recreation, not clothing they're forced to wear during work. But no, I haven't worked a blue collar job. Unless, of course, summer jobs count.

So after reading these high level arguments on the thread, I must ask <br>Should I go with a dark navy or black lightweight raincoat? I was considering dark navy since black doesn't seem like an /out/ color but I'm interested to hear what you guys have to say about it

>>2712317
reminder that this is a picture of a single row of gas stations and rest stops at an interstate crossing surrounded by farms, game lands and state forests. It has a population of less than 200 people and the county its in has an average population density of less than 1/10th the average population density of the UK or Germany

>>2710223
to blend in so mountain bikers run us off the trail. they cant see these colors.

>>2718676
If you are on the local walking trail: dark navy

If you are a professional or doing any type of dangerous alpine pursuit: bright colour

>>2717597
>The West has lower population density, but also way less forest,
You cant be this retarded.

>>2717260
It works great on an actual mountain where you are scrambling rocks and not an eastern mud hill where you need fucking crutches to walk up a 5% grade.

>>2718758
What if I'm doing a common but potentially dangerous from weather and terrain back country mountain ascent like King's Peak in Utah?

>>2718923
>Alpine and scree terrain confuses the easterner because his mountains don't go that high.

>>2718923
Colorado isn't the West, faggy.

>>2718963
Everything west of the mississippi is the west. The midwest are the plains states. The great lake states are the middle east, not the midwest.

>>2718523
All extremely valid points
Only reason I avoid clothes with hideous colors is usually because they're expensive and made of synthetics that immediately get holes with campfires. Wool is also a big standard in Scandi countries, so I use a lot of it. It all depends on what type of camping people do, there's no right or wrong

>>2719816
The plastic söy patrol will come for you

>>2719719
The midwest begins in Michigan. Everything east of Detroit is part of the northeast including Cleveland.

>>2719842
Nigga we don't care. I love wearing wool in my day to day. It's just too heavy for the benefits if I'm gonna be running 15-20 mile days.

>>2710223
Because contrasting colors make for better pictures on social media.

>>2718928
There are higher mountains that are completely forested. Elevation is why this is a barren wasteland, but you can go ahead and pretend like you already knew that.

>>2721005
>The easterner copes about bigger mountains than his by pointing out that there are even bigger mountains that also aren't his.

>>2716694
If they need to talk to you, they will leave a voicemail. It's that simple.

>>2710223
>>2710224
When in Rome...So I'll have some colorful clothes and kit, but also some camo stuff on tap. A thread like this exists because people can feel uneasy if a fully-kitted camo dude suddenly appears before them. Keep the normies happy and usually all is well.

>>2710225
Disagree, browns tans and greens are nice, especially as pant/short colors. Go nuts up top. Put on a friendly face and all that. Maybe even God Forbid make some friends with the normies in your area and have hiking buddies on tap, of all persuasions from amateur-hour tiktokkers to paranoid smelly vets.
>>2710227
I do like sky blue.
>>2710341
Yes. Sometimes there's good deals to be had amongst the goofy colored stuff.
>>2710379
A notable risk. Fair.
>>2710439
EVERYONE in the southwest tints their shit. You can literally spot the out of state lost folks by how untinted their stuff is. Though there's also the topless jeep types in my area. YMMV depending on the clime you live in though.
>>2710487
Decent idea. Most people will actually mistake you for a trail maintainer of some kind. But they will see you and it's very easy to pack.
>>2710527
>multicam is kinda cucked anyway
Disagree, when I do wear full camo and kit I am pretty decently covered in my area. Again, location specific.

Wow this goes on. I'll end with saying I know a boomer in my area who pray painted his 1911 Hunter Orange after he almost lost it innawoods. He showed me a pic and goofy as it was, he'll never lose that due to it blending again.

People just wear what you want and don't be afraid to be admired or jeered at on this pinecone comparison forum of peace.

>>2721544
You are retarded, "lad". Grow up

>>2710223
>Why would you want other people to see you before you see them?
nigga you aren't in hunger games, people aren't out there to get you while you're on your little camping trip.

>>2723119
Let em larp. It's all they have.

>>2723119
You don't understand this board.

>>2710223
>like sitting at the very first table in the break room with your back to entrance.
Most people don't have their emotional growth stuck at middle-school level.

This is an interesting question even though I think your conclusions are stupid and full of poo. Why do backpackers wear bright colors? Is it a visibility thing or just a cultural norm? Like a social signal "I am outdoors recreationally"

>>2710522
gatekeeping going outside is crazy ngl you should probably kys lmao

>>2710223
>Why would you want other people to see you before you see them?

so they can be rescued if lost, or body recovered if dead. also to prevent hunters from shooting you on accident. this is some common sense shit.

>>2710251
because people panic when they get lost and forget basic things, especially women and children. a few years ago a grandmother and granddaughter were hiking along the coast in my country. the coast, as in the coast of the ocean, as in there is absolutely no way to not know what direction is north/south/east/west. All she had to do was face the opposite direction of the ocean, walk in a straight line any direction up the hill and she would find a road within 1/4 a mile. But she couldnt do it. Her little kid was crying and being difficult, she herself started breaking down, they wandered into some brush on a hill and started to panic because she no longer recognized the trail she started on. all she could do was phone for help and had to pay 800$ to get a helicopter to pick her up.

congradulations on having a brain attached to a penis anon, it's a much bigger advantage then people like to admit.

>>2710223
Vibrant colors on vibrant people silly

>>2726334
I think you're on the wrong board, buckley.

>>2718676
Go with ranger green or coyote like a boss.

The voices in my head start getting loud when people can see me outside, so I'm about all this camo shit.

Search and rescue here.
Lost/ injured hikers in bright colours are found pretty much straight away, helicopter spotters can see them from literally miles away.

Geometric, reflective, colourful, moving, silhouette, yea you get found, line search finds you just as easily but the reality is that line search can only cover a very small area.

People who wear camo just aren't found. If we hear someone set off in camo do we even send a helicopter at all? Line search where? We run the trails but the fool could be ten meters off the trail hiding, unconscious, we might just miss them. Often the person is found in an altered state, mental health, drugs, fatigue, dehydration, paranoia, ask of the above. They need help or they might die, but don't realise that

We're also suspicious of people in camo because they could be trying to ambush other hikers. I've had very stem words in the back of the truck with hikers who set off in plain clothes and were subsequently found in camo. Many hikers will immediately report someone in camo as a personal safely threat and they're not dumb for doing that.

>>2729637
Based baitpost.
This was actually pretty entertaining, 6/10. Could've been a bit more subtle though.

>>2729637
>tmw you wind up dead because you were wearing a hawaiian shirt and some boomer reported you for being suspicious to the SAR bitch that hates camo

>>2729648
>sub 1min response time
What's the pay of a pretend jannie these days?

>>2710250
>wearing bright colors makes you a fag
>wearing full camo and LARP gear does not make you a fag
Yeah OK anon

>>2710223
Same reason hunters wear orange.

>>2710527
I think there’s a big dichotomy on this board of people who backpack vs. people who bushcraft and way too much autistic reeeeeeeee coming from both sides who misunderstand the other. If I was doing a bushcrafting trip that involved hunting I would definitely want camouflaged gear, but it’s utterly pointless and silly for backpacking. OP is an aspy retard that doesn’t seem to understand the rationale behind backpacker gear color being pretty much irrelevant. OP wears the camo but idk if they understand what it’s actually for

>>2729687
Who is more of a faggot? The retard sticking out like a sore thumb in his baby-blue jacket? Or the retard in full flecktarn?

If only there was a third option, like just wearing muted colors. Sadly we'll never know.

>>2730203
>people who backpack vs. people who bushcraft
The dichotomy is actually "people who backpack" and "larpers who stay inside and scream about gear" for what it's worth, otherwise you're correct.

I like wearing bright colors in the spring and summer and darker colors in the fall and winter. If you care what other people wear, you are a dork.

>>2730209
The flecktarn faggot is the biggest faggot no contest.

>>2730219
>t. terminally /in/ keyboard trail guide

>>2730227
>answering hypothetical questions
Do you want me to explain the point of that post more clearly? Not being a vibrant tree frog doesn't mean you have to be a milsurp faggot, or the other way around. You can just be a normal guy, like the guy way to the right in OP's image.

>>2730231
Yeah but he’s not wrong though.

>>2710223
What am I supposed to be seeing here? None of these colors are that jarring. Sky blue isn’t the best but it’s not that terrible.

Pic is made by Town Shirt. It’s $70 and marketed toward thruhikers. I think the purposefully ugly shirt trend started on the PCT. It seems to be more common there than on the AT, but that’s just via social media. I guess it’s not the same as just wearing bright colors, but the concept is the same: visibility (as in “look at me,” not for any kind of emergency or whatever).

>>2730241
what a joke i wear thrift store shit i got from the town i stopped in, costs like 10 bucks, and i support the community not these yuppies. Also if you wear the same clothes hiking for 6 months you are fucking disgusting.

I'm more concerned with how "dude outdoors lmao" has somehow been made fashionable

>>2710251
Idk try going outside for once in your life, go get lost OR go walk through some "shared" land and see why people like highly visible colors when they hike.

>>2710379
This is the real, honest deal answer

>>2730241
>70 dollars
Yeah, they'd have to cater that towards idiots

>>2710223
yeah last time i had a camo bag and a camo jacket i got funny looks from people because do you really wanna be lost in the woods, injured, wearing camo so the people searching for you don't see you??

>>2717669
Guys, I think this one's a nigger

>>2710563
Y-yeah…I’d probably wrap my legs around someone who pounced on me like that

>>2717669
>If there's a bunch of guys on 4 wheelers with guns saying the N word in conversation
Sounds like the people I wanna encounter

>>2719719
>The great lake states are the middle east
Well that certainly makes sense for Michigan with how many Muslims are there kek

>Retard OP and several others ITT don't know that the bright and conspicuous colors are for other hunters and rescue to spot you clearly
Holy shit, it really is true that no one on this board actually goes outside.

>>2710503
Learn how to read, you drooling sped.

>>2710223
Why do hiking gear manufacturers MAKE things in these hideous colours? Half the time I'm shopping for a nice natural colour and all I see are bright blue, orange, yellow. I'm not an arctic explorer, and if I were, I'd prefer to wear clothing that complemented the scenery.

>>2710223
because when im in the wild i want to wear bright colours so other people and things can see me you dumb fuck. wearing a green shirt isnt going to hide you from a fucking bear, itll smell you before it sees you

>>2710223
Bright colors are for women. Refer to your own pic.

>>2718935
Fuck yes I loved how I could just go for a wander anywhere and find a huge comfy mossy covered rock to sink into when I lived in BC. So soft.

Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD who came to earth and died for the world, so that may have eternal life. Three days later GOD rose Jesus Christ from the dead. He promised that whosever believes in Him, He promised them eternal, when the ask Him for it.

>>2729637
>If we hear someone set off in camo do we even send a helicopter at all?
>We're also suspicious of people in camo because they could be trying to ambush other hikers.
Jfc you're fucking useless aren't you.

>>2710230
thats the whole fucking point retard
its so if there's an emergency or you injure yourself you're easy to find.
fuck man /out/ has fucking falling since all the newfags invaded in 2020

>>2710251
>hundreds of free offline map apps
Shill me one I don’t wanna pay for alltrails goyslop app

>>2731728
Yeah, this. I have to wear high visibility ugly shit when I go out because of hunters and because I also want people to find my body if something happens. I'm not doing a fucking fashion show.

>>2733524
I've used Navit in the past, but every update breaks the older android versions. Currently, I'm using osmand. You have to get it through f-droid for the free version (on google, they charge a small amount to make up for platform costs), but it works pretty well. The standard maps include height maps and terrain maps as well as standard road maps.

I don't get how people can get lost, though. If you understand basic land navigation (not that meme shit with compass and counting steps, but things like sectoring or defining stoplines), you should always know your position down to a few km. Won't help you find a geocache or a camping spot, but you'll always be able to get back to town or to your car.

>>2733561
Thanks anon, I’ll try them. Literally never been lost but backup never hurts.

>>2710223
if you fall and die the helicopter search and rescue will be able to find you more easily if you wear bright colors


recent out

Anonymous

My tarp had a hole in it so my sleeping bag got wet :(

>>2719925
things are greening up down in the valleys but it takes longer in the high country

>>2720293
I love a good meadow sunset.
>>2720294
Wetlands are based. I got high desert and highland scrub oak to coniferous forest and alpine terrain where I'm at but I miss a good broadleaf wetland. Wouldn't wanna hike it much though.

>>2720298
Yeah you have to wade around in bottom lands and pick your way around but I could piddle around in them all day looking at the different plants and all.

>>2720341
Cool waterfall. Is the pool at the bottom swimmable?

>>2720572
Not unless you want to die, well not at that water level anyways.

>>2719925
Im going /out/ in a few days, i'll post when im back

Me and some buddies had a few drinks in our snow cave last weekend, then slept there.<br>Shit was pretty comfy.

>>2721637
how long could you stay in shelter like that

I live in snow and I recently somewhere warm and it was a torrential downpour so I went for a walk in the rain and I found this real world /pol/ that they have there

Hiking up a steep and prominent peak in my area while most of this board stays /in/ and argues over gear

>>2722924
almost looks familiar
doesn't look THAT steep but maybe that's just the climb-up-the-spine part, at least the trail is soft and not all rocks
is there a view at the end you could show us?

>>2722927
It looked a lot steeper in real life than in my photos.

There weren't any views up top. I wasn't expecting any. This was primarily a fitness hike. Many more to come so I can stay in shape for the proper mountains this summer.

>>2722924
>>2722940
based, I also started going on some fitness hikes in preparation for when the snow will melt higher up. There's a 10km loop I can start from my home that quickly ascends 600m to this peaceful little trail that barely anybody goes to. The whole thing is short enough that I can just do it whenever I have a couple of hours of free time, but some parts are really steep so it's still a good training for my legs

>>2720295
>>2720841
>>2720693
Amazing spots.
My pic is from a camp ground. Was a bit wet but good to get away and have a fire when it's cold.

>>2723126
You've got some impressive mountains near you. The biggest elevation gain in my region is only 400m so I end up stringing together a bunch of hikes until I reach my desired mileage/gain for the day. That and other cardio workouts (cycling, running up and down stairs, playing sports, etc.) pay dividends whenever I go to bigger mountains and knock them out.

>>2723160
>That and other cardio workouts pay dividends whenever I go to bigger mountains and knock them out.
one of the best feelings ever, especially when you go back to a place that fucked you up in the past and reach the top effortlessly

>>2720048
>texas
>open wilderness
Pick one

>>2719925
Out in the Marshes.
How were your outings my guys.

>>2723682
It's like a realistic Roger Dean combined with non-hell Barlowe

>>2723682
Oh this one is so beautiful Love the composition.

>>2723154
That's beautiful I havent seen trees like those. Yeah, it was a great spot, you could see the whole lowlands and the moutains on the other side.

>>2723154
>>2723767
pretty sure those are eucalyptus trees which are non-native/invasive. looks like somehwere in the bay area

>>2723769
I didnt know they get that tall. I also thought they are only in Australia for some reason

>>2723787
they got brought over and are now a real problem. Local wildlife dont like them and they are incredibly flammable

how much elevation do you guys usually gain in a day out?<br>I usually gain around 700m/1km, over 5/10km distance, that's on my day hikes, I usually go to the feet of a small mountain, walk up to the ridge, then walk along the ridge until it's finished and come back, usually the part where I get up to the ridge is off trail, and also when I come back down, so it's difficult to get there due to very steep inclination and vegetation/rocks/vertical walls/mud getting in the way, but it gives a good appreciation of how it is to traverse terrain, so now when I look at a map.i know how it would actually be to move there

>>2723769
>>2723787
Pics are from Upper Yarra area of Victoria, Australia

This is from last year but need to show off the northern lights

>>2723697
i also went into some wetlands this past weekend, still not bright and green yet but i think it'll green up by next week

They're not thousands of feet above sea level, but they're the hills I have.

>>2724230
that's quite satisfying where is that?

>>2724243
A patch of wilderness in Northern Arkansas.

>>2724245
I need to go there. Is it called leatherwood state park or what? That's been on my list for a while cuz its very gentle plateau.

>>2724246
Leatherwood Wilderness, part of the Ozark-St. Francis National Forest. There's a horse trail in the southwest corner that's easy to follow, albiet not easy to hike.

>>2724248
And your view is Almus knob or something different?

>>2724250
over by push mountain, which is that?
also looking now at elephant head trail, that looks quite interesting

>>2724251
Literally just a nice spot on the side of the horse loop.

>>2724257
So the quickest way there is park on 341 and take what the topo map calls farris road down the hill?
That looks steep as FUG.
What's at the red plus sign? Anything?
I appreciate the map. Its hard to figure out where stuff is. Anon posted an amazing uninterrupted view from where he said was St francis national forest but I still don't know where. Been dreaming about that spot.

>>2720341
Elk River Falls? I used to frequent that back in college

>>2724263
YES
did you go to appalachian state?

>>2724264
I was at little ol LMC. I do yearn to go back to Appalachia someday. Can't remember the name of this hike but it was over in Pisgah

>>2724266
table rock maybe in linville gorge
another anon said he climbed there

>>2724226
Bulgaria, Stara Planina. The other pic with the 3 stones is some old Thracian megalith. The whole area is full of them. Great spot because on one side you see the mountains and in the other direction are the lowlands.
>>2720692
>>2720693

North and south views.

>>2724225
that is not a coat rack anon....

>>2724266
they are trying to run out all the normal folk and import rich people, damn near every ridge is littered with houses if it's not on reserve land. feels bad man.

>>2724690
the bright midday sun is the enemy of good photographs

>>2720341
Used to live in Newland back in the early 2000s. I jumped down that waterfall countless times in the summer. Really miss the area

>>2724980
Looks pretty terrifying seemed like it would kill you. I hope to go back there when Carver's Gap isn't covered in snow and hike to the balds without having to wear spikes in APRIL.

>>2724984
Locals all do it, I saw 10 year olds doing it lol. So happy to see other people post photos from that little corner of Western NC. Back when I lived there I didn't have any kind of digital camera and only have slowly fading memories of the area.

If you get the chance do the loop around Price Lake off the Blue Ridge Parkway. I hiked that loop countless times on my way home from work. Really miss it there.

>>2724988
I tried taking the Blue Ridge Parkway northbound near Boone and it was really pretty at first but then there was a road closure and turns out the section of BRP from NC/VA border to Roanoke kinda sucks and barely has any views but not gonna do that again!

On my list is Elk Knob State Park seems like a neat view and maybe I'll be back in time for the rhododendron bloom. It was pretty cold and windy while I was there, I would like to come back in warmer weather. I've got more pictures I'm just a bit lazy in posting them.

I've never jumped from a waterfall. I'll swim in the bottom pool if the water is calm, but that water was aggressive. Too bad the water levels are too low now for waterfall enjoyment and there's little rain on the way,.

I visited this old courthouse near Jefferson, NC and got a really wonderful blue vintage old glass bowl for only 12 dollars at the gift shop. And a wood bowl as well.

I learned an important lesson about not trying to access 5000 ft + high country outside the may-early oct window

>>2724989
I used to ride my dual sport up and down the Parkway. As a punk ass early 20 year old I didn't know how good I had it in that area as far as out stuff goes.

Check out Grandfather Mountain, it's a little touristy but worth it. Same for Mount Mitchell which is the highest peak in the eastern US.

A part of me really wants to move back to the area but my next move will be my last move since i'm getting older and have a family now. After being on the west coast with all the land you can fuck around on the east coast seems so...small.

>>2724996
>Check out Grandfather Mountain
a) costs money (don't really care THAT much but still)
b) very limited open hours
I really hate supporting places that gate you in if you aren't back by a certain time it ruins the vibe of the hike
c) you need to use ladders and cables to get to the best views
I cannot do that lol.
>Same for Mount Mitchell
ran out of time for that and it was too far away, BUT, I did get to see it from a distance at Blowing Rock which was super cool. And I'm pretty sure you can see Mt Rogers from where these pictures were taken from, Big Pinnacle up at Grayson Highlands north of Roan Highlands. I will certainly revisit Roan Highlands in warmer weather.

>fter being on the west coast with all the land you can fuck around on the east coast seems so...small.
what? its huge you can drive for hours and there's hills in all directions from southern NY, PA, MD, VA, WV, KY, TN, NC etc. like there's so fucking much you will never do 1/10 of all the trails even if you tried

>>2724999
Most of that land is private land with tons of rules and regulations. I was born and raised in PA and used to think all the west coast talk was bullshit, then I went out there.

Use to ride my dual sport on endless trails in Wyoming/Montana/Idaho area, would setup long range rifle ranges on a whim. It's a whole different world out there

>>2725005
>Most of that land is private land with tons of rules and regulations.
what? yeah most of it but my whole point is there's TONS of public land in every state you will never ever hike all the trails on offer in even a PART of the east

>>2725006
I get what your saying but the vastness you get out west is unbeatable. If I can't live in the North West, i'd for sure settle into Western NC.

>>2724984
If there are large waves going BACK INTO the fall it could probably trap a swimmer

>>2723676
No collapse, we had to get the heavy duty shovel to dig in that snow, was hard as concrete.

>>2721247
Im back. Went to two alpine lakes with a friend of mine. We spected sun and warm weather, but it snowed all weekend. Was pretty comfy tho

>>2726726
Last one. We slept in a nice alpine hut, glad it had a fireplace, that night went -5 cº

>>2725006
There's actually very little free access public or state lands in the east compared with the west in any metric. And in practice on the ground you will still get harassed by property owners on the edges of the state forest or public lands in the east. The public land experience in the west is an entirely different thing than the public land experience in the east (smaller areas surrounded by many x larger populations = shittier experience overall). You can actually just fuck off into 40k sq mi of continuous land in one state that you can just do whatever out related activity you want in.

>>2724692
>> midday

The sun is barely over the horizon, tf are you smoking

>>2726786
PA alone has millions of acres of public land
almost all of it free to access

>>2726789
>millions
>special
In any western state it's measured in tens of millions. And in most eastern states I've outed in it does not change, you get harassed by individual or corporate property owners eventually. Image the little sliver of north central PA but times 10 and with even less people going out in it, that's every single western state minus Hawaii.

>>2726725
You live in Skyrim or something?
Looks nice.

>>2726912
1h drive from the pyrenees, there still is some /out/ in europoor countries too

Drunk as fuck listening to ye olde music sitting on a log near a tiny cliff <br>https://youtu.be/MOCyanijD8U?si=n5r<wbr>SnszCv3rNhfdY

tallgrass prairie national preserve in the flint hills of kansas

>>2727274
some wild bison blocking the trail

>>2727106
I'm in Europe too, and about as /out/ as you can get on this continent, but we don't have that sexy jagged alpine terrain here.
I have the arctic tundra and the taiga just outside my door, and a very ncie coastline.

>>2726728
-5 is still pretty nice, lowest I got was around -15 and in the end in the mountains that's still a normal temp, I've seen in the alps at 3/4k even now that's warmer it is -35C, one day I aspire to go to these places but I need to go with an experienced guide, if I went alone rn I'd risk too much to just die like a retard.
anyway at these heights you're not going out in the usual sense of walking around, it's super technical and you're ice climbing/snow shoeing all the time

>>2727412
I remember at night if I took my mittens off when I was still at camp, after like 1 min my fingers would get cold af to the point of moving them slower and having less dexterity, which is a know feeling when you're cold for long but it happened in a minute or so.
or for example I was heating a jelly meat can on the gas stove and the jelly was boiling, a streak of boiling jelly went down the side of the gas can and it froze solid in seconds while it was boiling before.
still I was hot in my bag with a jacket on overnight, plus the steel nalgene with boiling water between the legs tricm5

>>2727412
>>2727414
btw my -15 is an estimate bc I didnt have a thermometer but I looked the temps of that zone on the map after I came back

with that said just having a lvl1+lvl5 on while walking was enough to sweat like a bigger

>>2727353
Well you're afortunate too. You may not have alpine terrain, but tundra is fucking awesome

>>2727412
Yeah I kinda know -5 is not that much cold, we just didnt spected that cold in late April here in Spain. Im used to the summer weather I guess

Pictures don't do it justice... but last hike I did with my brother (well, technically 2nd to last but on the same trip)

>>2727273
>>2727274
>>2727277
>>2727278
Mmm I love grasslands so underrated. I'm headed to ND soon to do Theodore Roosevelt, then hitting black hills and Bad Lands, then going to see the grasslands in Nebraska to close out

>>2727273
Prairies don't get the love they deserve

>>2728609
sounds awesome, i love the black hills. badlands was the first NP i ever visited

>>2727273
went to the konza prairie this time

>>2730722
If you have a bike, I recommend exploring the flint hills nature trail. The area west of Bushong is great. Also, go to kanopolis state park if you haven't been there. It's not too far from the flint hills and watch for ticks

>>2730733
ive been thinking about doing the flint hills trail, have you done the whole thing?

>>2720048
Unless you’re way out west Big Bend way, Texas has fuck all for /out/
>t. Texfag


What's your big 4 setup look like /out/?

For me:

>Tent: MSR Hubba Hubba 2
>Bag: Gregory Baltoro 65
>Sleeping bag: Marmot Sawtooth 15
>Sleeping pad: Zlite

>>2719242
As supposed to what? Anime? Contribute or gtfo.

>Osprey Exos 48 140€
>lanshan 1 pro 105€
>Pyrenex ladakh 900 130€
>Decathlon Isolant 900 115€

You don’t even need these 4 to get 90% out of nature. You could get by with just a tarp and a way to hold water.

>>2719435
Pretty much same basic template. 50L pack, single-person tent, mummy bag and inflatable pad. Details don't matter so much.

>>2719441
M8 why do you need a giant fucking larp pack if you're only bringing not much at all?

>>2719245
>As supposed to what?
The actual photo of stuffs you used when going /out/ nigger. You did go out, right?

>>2719477
NTA but
>specify you don't need items
>"HURR DURR WHY YOU NEED THAT FOR"
Do you think before you post? I mean, at all?

>>2719477
In fairness, the full MSS is almost comically large

Seek Outside Flight 2
Western Mountaineering Alpinlite
Thermarest xtherm nxt
Gossamer Gear One

Big 4 is under ~7lbs total including guy lines and stakes

>>2719229
I look down on 'People' who use blow up sleeping pads which you have to pump up and expel the air from everytime you want to change camping spot, and lugging around enormous sleeping bags - unless it is going to be below freezing that isn't neceessary.

>>2719229
City niggers, I just went outside. I looked at my barn, I looked at the ocean to the north and then I looked at the mountains to the south. That's enough /out/ for me

>>2719442
Food, water and optional layers
>>2719503
Knower

>>2719483
There won't be a response to this.

>>2719757
That's me in the photo, being /out/. Everything else is stock photos of what I use, faggot. I dont have time to take photos of all my shit.

>>2719597
>I look down on people who overpack because they only have one gear set that's meant to work for them in all situations
Fuck off with this shit. I'm not buying a separate tent/pack/pad/sleeping bag just because it's too big for the occasion. Even if I didn't live in a place where it can get below freezing in July, I'd still pack like I do. I'm not buying each and every piece of gear my favorite reddit board is telling me is best for my specific trip
I'm buying the biggest pack I think I'll be using, the warmest sleeping bag I think I'll be using, the warmest sleeping pad I think I'll be using, and a tent that I got from a friend

If my price for consooming fewer products is that I have a heavier pack in the summer than I need, I'll gladly deal with it

>>2719614
Are you trying to be smug about being a peasant?

>GoLite ShangriLa 5
>Granite Gear Crown2
>MEC Gosling
>Thermarest XTherm

not a larper i swear. this is all i need for short trips under a week. good clothing necessary depending on the weather.

>wear a ghorka
>get drunk and pass out in ditch somewhere

that pretty much solves most of the practical problems

>>2719229
>Pack: Grandpa's old ALICE pack
>Tent: A $20 backpacking tarp from Amazon and some paracord
>Sleeping bag: Teton Sport mummy bag. Forget which model and I'm too lazy to check desu
>Sleeping pad: Another $20 backpacking tarp from Amazon and enough cheap whiskey to not feel the rocks I'm sleeping on

Get on my level bitches

Bought a cot. Forgive me tentbros.
What am I in for?
>inb4 car camping
Yes.

>>2721180
Cot beds are cool if you want comfort. I've used the KingCamp Ultralight cot bed a few times (picrel) to keep me off the ground. It packs away to the size of a large brick and is very light. Perfect for using it in a tent, under a tarp or under the stars.

>>2719269
This is basically my setup minus the sleeping pad and add a rain cover on the bivy..

Pack - REI Flash 45 from 2018 (This pack is unremarkable to me so I have little to say about it, does the job, hasn't ripped)
Tent - Big Agnes Copper Spur 2 person (weighs little, freestanding, holds up to wind very well, great ventilation without the rain fly)
Pad - Zlite egg carton (I've tried air pads, I'd rather have something flat that I don't have to fuck with blowing and rolling up)
Bag - Kelty mummy bag (I don't usually bring it, I sleep hot and live in a hot area, I'm more concerned with sweating than staying warm)

How do you filter water over multi day expeditions?<br>I have a basic sawyer squeeze off-brand filter, would that be decent enough for lake and stream water?

>>2719229
>30-06
>110 buck knife
>a lighter
>an axe
i dont use a tent
havent used one in years

>>2719229
>Tent: Blue construction tarp w/ paracord tie offs
>Bag: Mardingtop (fake Rush) assault pack
>Sleeping bag: Either a wool blanket or a 2-season mummy bag off Amazon
>Sleeping pad: Hammock
I'm poor and it's pretty warm here.

>>2721786
I use a katadyn befree in combination with a cnoc 3L bag

>>2721786
Boil water in pot for one minute

>>2719229

there's definitely a theme to my shit
>backpacking tent
litefighter 1
>car camping tent with dog, gf, normie friends, etc
spicer peak 6
>bag
carinthia defense 1, supplemented with a heavy blanket if car camping
>pad
neoair xtherm

>>2719241
can someone ID this backpack? i wanna larp as snufkin too.

>Pack: Veshmeshok+Belt mounted haversack
>Shelter: OR Helium Bivy+Plash Palatka/Tarp
>Warmth: Hammock Gear 30F quilt+Swagman
>Pad: EVA Foam+a Klymit insulated

This is for 3 or more days in colder weather. In summer I drop the quilt and only use the swagman. The thin pad makes a nice place to sit and adds cushioning to the back of my potato sack backpack

>>2722871
>litefighter
Noice, thinking about getting a winter kit for mine this year

>>2719269
im going to pee on you through that

>>2722201
One minute boil won't kill cysts, takeworm eggs or virii. Four minutes minimum boil and ten is better.

How do you sleep under a tent? Sounds scary as fuck. Not sure if I'm going to wake up with hypothermia or get eaten by a bear.

>>2725266
Bong here, no bears, the worst I've woken up to is a deer curled up under the tarp and my hammock.

>hypothermia
Not an issue if you have a decent insululating sleeping cover like a sleeping bag. You also absolutely need to be lifted above the ground to avoid losing heat.

>>2725237
It also depends on your altitude. At higher altitudes water boils at a lower temperature so needs to boil for longer.

how you outists can afford so fancy stuff if you are 24/7 innawoods so have no time for work?

>>2725397
This. People get this wrong all the time. They think water boils faster at higher altitudes but forget that the water temperature is lower.

Water at sea level boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit. At 5,000 feet above sea level, the boiling point is 203 degrees F. Up at 10,000 feet, water boils at 194 degrees F.

The higher you are, the longer you need to boil your water to purify it.

>>2725397
Yeah because of this if you're gonna camp higher than 5000 ft above sea level you'll need more fuel for cooking and water treatment. Isobutane works well.

>Pack: Tupilak 50-75
>Tent: Redline 2-Person Tent Red Dahlia
>Sleeping bag: Phantim GORE-TEX 0F/-18C
>Sleeping pad: Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XTherm

>>2721180
>>2721206
We stole some stretchers to use as cots last mil exercise I was on, was pretty damn comfy compared to the foam pad I'm used to.
No small stumps and rocks digging into my back.

>>2719241
>>2723054
Looks like Joel's bag from TLOU or a herschel
But r/ as well.

>>2719230
Tried sleeping out in Zion over SB with one of those reflective space blanket things on top of my sleeping bag - did not work. Too cold. One of my most unpleasant camping experiences in recent memory.

>>2726171
>on top of my sleeping bag
Retard

>>2726180
I wrapped it around like a foil burrito. Over around and under. How is that retarded? Was there a better move?

>>2726182
I guess the issue is that you're trying to reflect heat back through your insulation, but a mylar blanket will ultimately be a bad fit for a sleeping bag due to moisture concerns regardless.

>cheap amazon 3x3m tarp
>generic military style rucksack
>an old bag from the loft that belonged to my dad
>s2s etherlite xt insulated - had to invest here as I never got a good night's sleep on my dad's old thermarest

>>2719229
usgi goretex bivvy with a 2lb down bag, nature for groundpad/cover
some 40L pack
Mora knife and a tomahawk
Sawyer mini filter
Freezedried potatoes + seasoning mix + rat traps for catching squirrels + fishing line/hooks for canepole fishing + gather plants/shrooms
Ozark trail cookset, just the frypan and bowl/lid
Coffee in tea bags + tea in tea bags
Zippo with torchy insert + ferro rod + homemade firestarters

>>2719229
>What's your big 4 setup look like /out/?

>>2728299
>bivy larper
>doesn’t know what the big four are
>couldn’t even decipher it rom pictures and dozens of other posts

>>2729296
not larping
know what it is, chose to ignore it
some people said tarp which is way more high skill/hardcore than a bivvy
you'd know if you'd tried them both

>>2729376
>mfw I have that "sleeping pad" but to sit on while fishing
>don't even unfold it, sit on all layers for warmth
>still starts hurting after a while
Can't imagine actually sleeping on a single layer of that kraut plastic

>>2729383
I like mine, yeah it's not the softest but it does a good job at keeping the cold out, then again I can sleep on a concrete floor

>>2729398
just because you can doesn't mean you have to

>>2729399
use whatever works best for you, this works for me

>>2725266
>>2725392
I'm more afraid of bugs biting me and giving me a previously undiscovered forest AIDS. Especially since one of the most commonly recommended way to "lift yourself off the ground" is by piling bushes under you (which i imagine is chock full of bugs)

>>2719229
Bike is from image search but you get the idea

>>2725392
>hammock
>You also absolutely need to be lifted above the ground to avoid losing heat.
Hmm..

>>2719229
None of these shelters will keep anyone dry because they’re made from waterproof materials.

>>2719241
Is the gootium backpack any good?

the coldest it gets in my area is about 5c degrees. can i get away with a raincoat/tarp tent and a reasonably warm waterproof sleeping bag and cowboy camp with it unless its going to rain and in that case use the tarp coat?

>>2729524
how is that sleeping bag? it's so cheap that I'm tempted to buy it just to use this summer

>>2730074
Great for anything above 10c at night, extra clothes for anything below

>>2723054
Not exact, but a milsurp Swiss army rucksack looks very similar to me

>>2719933
Love my GoLite Jam. Shame they shut down. I scored a secondhand one in decent shape for when I finally have to replace mine. 10 years of heavy use and still going strong. Just a small rip where the shoulder strap attaches from carrying more weight than what it's specified for then picking it up by the strap (12L water haul on a desert trip)

Pack and tent are my actual pack and tent in the wild. The pack is some cheap 70L pack I got off Amazon and has done really well for 4 years, the tent is a North Face stormbreaker 1.

>>2721180
I strongly prefer cots. I put a wool blanket underneath me for some extra padding/warmth when I need it.

>>2719229
The shelter and pack is highly dependent on what im doing and how far im going and how many people are with me...so ill list the ones i cycle between depending on the trip

>Mystery Ranch Sawtooth, Beartooth, or Marshall
>Seek Outside Cimarron, Seek Outside Silex, MSR Hubba Hubba 2

>Marmot Never Summer 0 degree bag

>Thermarest Trail Pro

>>2721767
poprad is nice for getting /out/

>Tent:
we have huts in NZ. Alpine bivy bag for emergency, plus a snow saw and shovel in winter.
>Bag:
Macpac Pursuit
>Sleeping bag:
 MacPac, can’t remember. Equinox(?) when it’s not cold, 2nd warmest alpine bag for winter. Epic maybe?
>Sleeping pad:
cheap af foam roll for summer plus a ¾ Zrest in winter. After a few failed inflatables I’m done with them.
Favourite kit:
Beyond old Prophet I can’t bring myself to replace. Bring back goretex Viper and offset sips at the chin! (Mines a bluey grey with internal hip cord, delaminating and generally fucked, but otherwise identical)

>>2732187
Actually since I'm here, does anyone know anything that's basically this exact style and still available?
Nothing I can find in the last hour has a waist drawcord, except a couple around the NZ$1500 mark, which is fucking insane for a jacket.
Prefer no lower pockets.

>>2719229
Are those down suits any good or meme tier

>>2732558
Those arent down suits, those are human-shaped sleeping bags, theyre a meme, a friend bought one and was cold at 10C even though it looked pretty warm

>>2732593
>Those arent down suits, those are human-shaped sleeping bags,
Don't split hairs, they're basically the same thing.
>>2732558
I'm sure you'll be much more comfy in a regular sleeping bag. Imagine the fuckery involved in taking a piss if it's raining. Not speaking from experience but I've spent more than a couple of nights in just my alpine gear. Not particularly cold or anything, it's just not a comfy way to sleep.

Tent: xmid 1p
Bag: 40L lite AF
Quilt: ugh bandit 950fp down
Pad: Nemo tensor insulated

>>2732651
>ugh bandit 950fp
now I'm not knocking this, I bet it's comfy af, but... that's just a sleeping bag minus the zip. Innit.
What are your thoughts on something like this?
Good or gimmick?
https://www.macpac.co.nz/macpac-sta<wbr>ndard-azure-500-down-sleeping-bag-%<wbr>28-6%C2%B0c%29/120068.html?dwvar_12<wbr>0068_color=Sun%20Dried%20Tomato&dwv<wbr>ar_120068_clearance=no

>>2732656
Yea quilt would be shit without a insulated pad, I wouldn't use it then. But the quilt is much more like blankets at home in bed and offer more flexibility because you can partially cover yourself if it's warmer.

500 fill power is ass for that price. You could probably get something made in the us with 750-800 for that price. The thing I don't like about sleeping bags is constriction. I side sleep so quilt all day. I have sleeping bags too, just prefer the quilt.

I don't remember the exact formula but it should be online somewhere. The know area of a quilt (length * width) can be used to estimate the fill power by measuring the thickness when fully lofted and vice versa. So use that to determine if you're actually getting what you're paying for

>>2721180
They're nice.
I had helinox cot loaner from a friend and it was comfy, very light too, no need to worry about sharp rocks or anything else for that matter to poke you in the back or puncture your mat.

>>2729499
Checked and same, tent is the only way I can sleep without worrying some little mega-aids cunt biting me.
Also last time I used a hammock there was a frog in my boot.

>>2732558
>Increase surface area so you have more area to lose heat
>Heavier for the same insulation because the surface area that needs to be insulated is greater
>Going to have more cold spots because it's a more complicated shape
>Less volume inside the bag means you don't start warming up stale air
A meme unless you want to do warm-up exercises repeatedly to maintain warmth.

Tent: Quarterdome 1
Pack: Mariposa 60
Water: FirstNeed
Quilt: EE Revelation 10F plus overfilled
Pads: Nemo Switchback and Tensor
Shoes: Hoka SG5
Poles: Leki carbon
Stove: MSR Pocket Rocket

Comfy as hell three seasons.

>>2732187
Hey bru. Do many folk wear Swanndri bushshirts there still or is it kind of a larp now?

>>2719229
I've never been camping before and I am also poor. I will be doing a small 2 mile hike and will set up a day camp before packing up and going home. I'm going to make some jerky to take with me so I don't have to cook out there. I can't camp overnight in those woods because there is a bear family, who are not scared of people, and they know me. Don't need them taking revenge on me for scaring them off all the time (I have a retarded neighbor who has been feeding them, after a year I finally got that bastard to stop). I figure I have to start somewhere, and this is what I can do right now.
>Pack: child's old school backpack
>Tent: a bedsheet, some twine and poles I will find in the woods (there is a lot of suitable wood there)
>Sleeping bag and pad: gymnastics mat, blanket, small pillow

Also do you guys have recommendations for cheap starter gear? I would like items that will make it at least one year of use, using them once per month. There are other places that I can hike to and camp overnight nearby where the bears won't try to fuck me over.

>>2725263
using emojis, as a man?
better get your buddies dick out your ass and come and fight me you shlomo

>>2719614
I love living in the /out/, its always there, sometimes you don’t need it though, but its still always right there