How the fuck do you solo camp in USA?

Only reason I use a tent is in summer for snakes, mosquitos and spiders. In winter and colder months I try just sleep under the stars.

In saying that, we don’t have big animals here that will fuck your life up.

Don’t actually know what I’d do if camping in the US. I’d be terrified of being taken by a fucking wild cat. That thought of that is just insane to me lol.

>>2728510
1. Be aware.
2. Be armed.
3. Be in comms.
4. Don't give a fuck.

>>2728510
I've camped, solo, several times in the same are I've caught mountain lions and black bears. I've never seen them while out there. Just tracks, scratch marks and trail cam video. I do carry bear spray and a 9mm handgun(ccw) But I don't think I'll ev er actually have to use them. Both mentioned animals generally go out of their way to avoid us. When there is an encounter, it's usually a surprise on both ends. Unless either is with a cub or feels cornered, they'll choose retreat. Even if there is a cub, they're more likely to grab it and run than to actually attack.

That said, in areas where they are re-introducing wolves, I'd suggest only camping in numbers. Fucking retarded activists, they don't understand that the only reason we're no longer afraid of the "big bad wolf" is because we killed them all! It was only after this that outdoor recreation became possible for the average city dweller. They'll learn. Fucking pisses me off that we'll all suffer for it though. One of the OR packs has been seen in my CA county and one of the CO packs has been seen a couple counties to the south.

>>2728530
^caught on trail cams... not traps. lost my train of thought.

>>2728533
Do you set up a cam or two in the area when you're camping? I've been considering this, you could rig it to an app on your phone and have a little forewarning of the local fauna bumping around at night without leaving your tent. I know next to nothing of trailcams though, so it's a learning curve for me.

>>2728541
>nb4 stop talking about gear and go outside.

No, I am prepared to do my patriotic duty and consume in this case.

>>2728541
I have several trail cameras around the area, along popular animal travel routs. I do have another camera that I set up to see if anything passes through my camp, either when I'm not there or sleeping. I seldom see anything. Saw a house cat once...all the way out here! Saw a ringtail once, some squirrels, birds, but nothing big. On the long term cameras I've seen bears, mountain lions, bobcats, deer, turkey, quail, ringtails, foxes, skunks, raccoons, many smaller flying birds, squirrels(ground and tree), coyotes, cows(AG land a couple miles away) and a fisher. I'm sure I'm forgetting something. Lots of wildlife out there.

>>2728548
Watching your own camp is smart. how much does a good trail cam cost? I think I'll get a cheap one and mess around with it next time I'm out.

>>2728530
It’s been 30 years since they put wolves back in Yellowstone. There hasn’t been a single dangerous encounter despite millions of people in the back country. Same with the boundary waters in Minnesota. Thousands of wolves, zero deaths.

>>2728561
That have been reported....
https://www.outsideonline.com/outdo<wbr>or-adventure/exploration-survival/l<wbr>eave-no-trace/

>>2728561
https://trailandsummit.com/which-na<wbr>tional-park-has-the-most-disappeara<wbr>nces/
As mentioned above, current statistics hold that there are only 29 open cold cases relating to missing people in state parks. Independent researchers estimate this number is about 1100-1600. Given that over 600,000 people go missing each year in the United States, this is still a relatively low number – but significantly higher than the official statistics show.

Reporting dangerous animal attacks tends to discourage tourism. Wolves have been one of the primary predators of man, until their numbers were greatly curtailed. It only follows that re-introducing them will lead to the same outcome.

Ticks and skeeters are the only thing to worry about. Maybe you don’t have diabetes as bad as us being euro but I can’t even feel when I’m skeeter bit or got ticks latch unless I happen to see it. I’ll have dozens on my legs when I take a look.

>>2728530
They should introduce siberian tigers in the north, african lions and cheetahs in the plains, restore grizzlies to their former range and clone and release smilodon, cave bears and mammoths.
Stay in the city, if you can't handle being around a couple big animals.

>>2728593
Sounds like your typical Collage Urban Liberal Type response...

>>2728568
>in places where there are no wolves
>derp

>>2728572
None of those places have wolves so…

> Reporting dangerous animal attacks tends to discourage tourism

This is just exceptionally retarded cope. People who get killed by wild animals don’t get swept under the rug you stupid Cunt. You hear about every dangerous grizzly encounter that happens it’s newsworthy. Any mountain lion attack gets reported the same would be true with wolves. It just doesn’t happen.

>>2728510
>I’d be terrified of being taken by a fucking wild cat.

That doesn't happen.

>>2728595
First story in Denver
Second covers all 50 states and specifically mentions Yellowstone
good job proving you're a headline reading ignorant faggot

>>2728510
Niggers kill 147 times more people per year than grizzlies, black bears, cougars, and wolves combined throughout the last 100 years...

But it is good to keep people afraid so citidiots dont shit up my outdoors

>>2728595
wolves are their pet project, they could be held liable if the reintroduced wolves attacked or killed anyone. Of course they have clear motivation to cover it up. Who's coping now?

>>2728510
Real practical question, what do you do if you see a cougar and its not immediately backing off? I think I wouldn't hesitate to shoot at it, but I figure there would be dumb consequences

>>2728602
> Who's coping now?
You are. There hasn’t been a fatal wolf attack in the lower 48 in 150 years. Wolves have been in one of the most heavily visited national parks in the country for 30 years there hasn’t been a single aggressive wolf encounter

>>2728510
Research cameras in the Whetstone Mountains in AZ recorded a jaguar around the same time I went solo camping 5 miles in. A fucking jaguar. Just chilling out there with me. I wish I could see one.

The Pinaleno Mountains supposedly have the highest concentration of black bears in the US. I've tent camped there many times (not solo though) and never seen a bear there.

My wife and I were several miles into the Rincons, close to the backpack-only campsite where we were headed, and found fresh bear shit on the trail. We were the only people in the campsite that night, probably the only people for several miles around. Didn't see any bears, nothing went bump in the night. Sad.

>>2728530
A pack of coyotes could also punch my ticket. Seen them take down 600lb elk. But I don’t scurry away with my tail between my legs when they start yapping on that cold night.

>>2728530
Wolves are fucking cool. If you can't handle being harassed by a pack of wolves all night you're pussy who shouldn't go /out/. Stop fucking complaining that you get to experience such a cool.animal that has such an important history with mankind.

>>2728602
Wolves are also your pet hate, word gets around in small rural towns where locals all hate wolves and like fuck they'd keep that quiet. It'd be all over every hunting media, you'd be telling us all about it right now. But instead you're telling us some /x/ level conspiracy about how they're hiding wolf deaths.

>>2728572
>600,000 people go missing each year

Most are found within a few days. Mostly runaways or non-custodial parents taking the kid.

"Luckily, the vast majority of missing persons cases are quickly resolved. For example, in 2021, 521,705 missing person cases were reported, more than 485,000 of which were resolved within the year."

https://worldpopulationreview.com/s<wbr>tate-rankings/missing-persons-by-st<wbr>ate

>>2728510
One time, I was driving to the airport from a week backpacking Glacier NP. I noticed movement near the small animal pen on a Blackfoot indian reservation. I stopped because it was a mountain lion, an absolutely gorgeous cat, and he was sniffing the pen with no aggression on display. He marked a fence post with rubbing and spray and then glanced at my truck nonchalantly and slowly walked across my path into a small patch of corn stalks. This cat seemed about nine feet Iong from stem to stern. It was probably used to hunting jackrabbits and hares and it almost certainly would have kept away from a person innawoods. While they do attack people, it's extremely rare because N. American cats don't want to risk injury or death when smaller game is so plentiful.

Now coastal brown bears and grizzlies are scarey. When I venture near them, I always carry 44 or larger hand cannons loaded with appropriate bear medicine.

Oh yeah, I aktually go /out / instead of pretending.

>>2728510
the really fucked up part is how far their territory has spread and how hard forestry and government try to cover it up. I grew up in middle TN where there are "no big cats definitively!" about 15 years ago someone hit a fucking black panther on the fucking highway. now ok, I guess this could have been one of those pet big cats that got loose and no one claimed it because legal reasons, but there are countless trail cam vids of mountain lions all over the east coast, but they will deny it because muh tourism. so the best thing you can do if you encounter a fucking mountain lion around your property is kill it, bury it as deep as possible, and never speak a word of it. shits. fucked.

>>2728561
lol you think the fucking national parks would tell ANYONE that someone was attacked/killed by a wolf? just another missing 411 case nothing to see here, ignore the shovel covered in blood an dirt in the back of my truck good sir! I'm a forrest ranger!

>>2728575
do you not have hair on your legs? that's how I always feel ticks is them crawling through my body hair looking for a warm place to latch.

I would like to thank all the pussies who are afraid to play innawoods. Hopefully, you will inspire others like your fellow defectives to remain at home and stay outta my beautiful /out/. Also, we're full here.

>>2728610
you better have a big enough gun and not miss

>>2728572
>>2728602
>>2728760
>>2728761
I'm gonna need some substanitative proof that big ecology and big tourism is covering up wolf and cougar attacks but not bear attacks.

>>2728810
I don't have proof they are covering up attacks, but I have first hand experience with cougar denial in Appalachia. they refuse to acknowledge their existence because it will effect tourism.

>>2728822
There aren't supposed to be cougars in central Texas either. But I saw a roadkill cougar heading from Ft. Worth down to Lockhart. Pretty substantive evidence there's at least one.

the only thing to really worry about is brown bears. all the other shit usually stays away from you. cats are naturally skittish and avoid detection in most cases. more people are attacked by moose than wolves, cats, hyenas, sharks, and bears combined. stay the fuck out of the way of the moose. kek

>>2728761
There’s only been one missing person case in Yellowstone in the last 50 years and that’s from before they even put wolves back. When people get attacked by dangerous animals it’s not something they can hide. Somebody gets as much as a scratch from a grizzly bear. It’s front page news. Never mind that there are plenty of wolves outside of the park in the surrounding national forest with lots of people hunting and trapping wolves, and yet still no reports of a single dangerous encounter.

Your cope is so retarded. What the fuck is your problem?

https://www.nps.gov/orgs/1563/cold-<wbr>cases.htm

>>2728856
I don't believe (((statistics))) from the same people who lie about literally everything else, I guess that's my problem.

>>2728530
It takes months and over a thousand shekels for me to get a ccw where I'm at. How fugged would it be bringing my water gun out crossing several state lines?

>>2728864
You have to understand the dynamics surrounding wolves. The NPS and surrounding towns love them because of the tourist money. A lot of the other locals hate them, and would be sure to capitalize on any dangerous wolf encounter. Hundreds are hunted and trapped every year. Wolves around here pretty much avoid humans at all cost- how that dude hit one with a snowmobile I have no idea. Grizzly bears are far more dangerous to humans than wolves.

>>2728878
that makes logical sense, and I've never really thought wolves were a problem for humans unless you're in a no guns state, but for livestock it won't be good if they are allowed to spread. also, if they avoid humans at all costs, why would they being in more tourist money? genuine question.

>>2728885
>genuine question
Part of it is the way Yellowstone is. Most of the wolf sightings take place in the Lamar Valley, which is a wide expansive, mostly treeless valley with a few rivers running through it. People set up spotting scopes, and can watch packs from a mile or two away. It’s not like coming across the grizzly bear grazing through a field next to the road oblivious to the tourons. Occasionally you might see a wolf cross the road but packs are never hanging out anywhere close to humans. I go to Yellowstone frequently several times a year. I’ve never seen a wolf closer than a mile away.

>>2728822
Again, need something concrete instead of a claim. Like a link to a press release by the tourism industry that denies a population of cougars
>>2728837
Similarly, did they claim zero cougars recently or are you basing it off of something you read a while ago?

https://youtu.be/zZsdkYrsg3I?si=zjO<wbr>Hwwb3OWh78Jw3
https://tpwmagazine.com/archive/201<wbr>8/mar/scout5_wildthing_mountainlion<wbr>/

>>2728561
>There hasn’t been a single dangerous encounter despite millions of people in the back country.
Because the wolf population is still nothing like it was 100 years ago.

>>2728596
>That doesn't happen.
Only because people have guns.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jxCy<wbr>QStwLUE

>>2728977
Meanwhile in Russia:

>In the winter of 2010-11, a "super pack" of wolves numbering up to 400 reportedly terrorized the Russian town of Verkhoyansk (population 1,300) in northern region of Yakutia, one of the remotest inhabited areas in the northern hemisphere. More than 30 horses were killed in just four days, according to local officials, and teams of hunters were established to patrol neighborhoods and shoot the wolves on sight. Animal experts suspicious of the claims say that wolves usually form packs of no more than 10 to 15 animals, although the particularly harsh winter may have killed off the wolves' usual prey, forcing them to attack larger animals.

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.co<wbr>m/world-records/largest-wolf-pack

>>2728510
its just a kitty cat anon give him a pet

>>2728510
I've been hunted by several cougars in my younger days, but in my mid 30s they seem to leave me alone now.

>>2728530
canada here. I've camped a lot in remote parts of the rockies and in ontario. Wolves are a least concern. I have only seen one once in my life and once had them howling all night 50 m from where i was camped (totally alone) and also they are prevalent where i own some land in ontario and I never ever have problems. Your chance of being attacked by a bear is far, far, greater. That being said, like you said most animals try to avoid people. But I'd be more careful in spring and fall especially. Cougars scare the ever loving shit out of me and I've had a large adult grizzly sauntering my way within 50m and just calmly walked away without much concern. Anyway, any animal can be dangerous given the right conditions.

>>2728856
He was rejected by a female wolf and now hates all of them

>>2728510
yea over here bears and cougar's are as numerous as rabbits. its crazy. one out of every two camping trips i get chased by something. whatever.

Imagine fighting off a 180 pound male cougar without a firearm

>>2728510
Gun....
More gun....
Also a knife.
Stay strapped or get clapped.

>>2729904
why bring a firearm when brass knuckles will do the trick?

>>2729920
Why bring brass knuckles when you can use your dick?

>>2729929
It's a cougar, I don't need weapon. Compliments and wine and you're set.

>>2729943
the original post was talking about a male cougar, just thought id remind you.

>>2729943
Because it's like a cougar like AN OLDER WOMAN LMAO HOLY SHIT DUDE HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

>>2728837
I saw a cougar in CenTex in the middle of the city when I was pretty young. Was in some woods next to a major hospital. Saw another in a corn field also in the city but on the outskirts.

>>2728510
Looks surprisingly easy to fap to
Way easier than I expected

>>2728510
>How the fuck do you solo camp in USA
you don't, sorry bud ;)
shouldn't have imported niggers

>>2728530
> Fucking retarded activists
Wolves are a vital part of the ecosystem and they’re preferable to yotes.
The only retards here are you. If you’re having a dangerous encounter, just use your gun and bear spray.
>>2728837
> There aren't supposed to be cougars in central Texas
Bullshit they’re all over the continental US. Out West they’re common but in the central and eastern USA, their numbers are far less due to habitat loss and hunting. We even have a few mountain lions here in southern ohio that cross over the river from Kentucky.
Knowing Texas with its massive ranches, the state and the industries that control it lupe probably prefer the extinction of these big cats for the sake of their cows.

>>2729948
And?
>>2729952
If you don't shut up I'll compliment and get you drunk off cheap wine, then I'll dick you down.

You're far more likely to encounter a wandering pitbull anywhere you go in the western world these days. People just let them roam. I can't tell you how many time I've had that happen.

>>2728561
because that's a tourist area. full of cars and large groups. Plus there are brown bears to worry about.

>>2730091
>free dog
The elites don't want you to know

>>2730091
Blast the heckin’ pupperino and tell the fuzz it was charging at you. Police and paramedics typically have a great disdain for the pit bull menace.

>>2730109
>free inbred dog
>will have to deal with its inbred owners later on
Shit breed for shit people.

>>2728610
Shoot it and get the hell out of there, dont tell a soul, and definitely dont report it to FWP. After how they try and crucify anyone who dares defend themselves against a grizzly, mtn lion, wolf, or nigger.

It sucks thats the society we live in now, but it is designed to protect criminals from law abiding citizens, not the other way around.
Eat shit Montana FWP, you spermburping pozzed faggots. One day you will be made to remember who you work for, and it isnt these califaggots invading and ruining our state.

>>2728667
Wolves are wiping out big game in the north western u.s. you obviously know fuck all about them besides whatever jewtube videos or natgeo propaganda youve watched.

>>2728760
Twra repeatedly denied for years that there were ANY cougars in Tn. Once trail cams became popular they could no longer deny it outright. They were terrified people wouldnt hunt as much anymore due to fear of being attacked..which is also stupid. Twra is a joke. Dont get me started on their abysmal handling of the CWD outbreak

>>2730091
I can't wait for the "muh ebil pibble" phase to be over. Used to be dobermans, then it was rottweilers, next it should be something like yorkies

>>2730176
dobermans and rottweilers have never attacked or killed as many people. in fact, probably all doberman and rottweiler attacks combined throughout the entire history don't even equal pitbull attacks in a single year, lmao. if you agree that certain breeds like terriers are more neurotoc because they were bred for different things, why do you deny that shitbulls are just backyard bred hyper agressive breeds too? the mental gymnastics of a pitbull owner kek.

>>2730176
> "muh ebil pibble" phase to be over
fucking municipalities are revoking their anti-shitbull laws to appease the godless baby killers and race mixers that own them. Any sort of “phase” is the wave of regret of not exterminating those dogs in their pounds or keeping these laws.

>>2730177
I never said anything about breeds being neurotic, nor do I own a dog. It's just boring to see a bunch of shut-ins repeatedly posting murder fantasies like they wouldn't immediately get ventilated if they killed someone's dog. It'd be funny to see posts like "don't let your teacup shi tzu off leash around me, everyone knows they're cold-blooded killing machines"

>>2730184
you're delusional if you think a shi-zu on the loose is a threat in comparison to a shitbull on the loose. lmao.

>>2728510
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Coqi<wbr>gF0uf3w Joe Rogan Vs Grizzly

>>2730190
>but but but reading is so much harder than hating dogs
Yes anon, the point was to pick a dog that is especially non-threatening. That's why I said it would be funny. Try to keep up.

>>2730170
>Wolves are wiping out big game in the north western u.s
Bullshit. Montana's elk herd is at a record high and bigger than it was 10yrs ago.

>>2730169
>After how they try and crucify anyone who dares defend themselves against a grizzly
hunters kill griz in self defense all the time. they dont get crucified

>>2730093
>because that's a tourist area. full of cars and large groups
>3000 square miles.
Yellowstone gets a couple hundred thousand over night back country visitors a year. thats millions of visitors over 30yrs away from the crowds and still nothing.

>>2728977
>Because the wolf population is still nothing like it was 100 years ago.
in the 3000 square miles of Yellowstone, its likely that the wolf population is quite similar to thatof pre-white man- in this specific area- as the wolf packs and population have stabilized and pretty much reached capacity for the park. ...and yet, there have been milions of more people in the area over the last 30yrs than there ever have been before so theres that

>>2730225
Good rifle, a bit heavy though(for a scout rifle). I haul it around when hunting, but I wouldn't want to hail it everywhere all the time while /out/ With scope and 10 rounds in the mag it's less than 10 lbs, so not really heavy either. But it's not nothing. I carry bear spray and a 9mm. Don't plan or expect to ever have to use either, just a case of I'd rather have and not need than need and not have. I'd feel really silly if I were attacked by a wild animal and I didn't have them on me, knowing I had them and could have. The 9mm is in a CCW holster and I'm used to wearing it all day anyway. The bear spray is a tad bit more cumbersome, it's not small enough to easily fit in your pocket. But not so large that you can't find a spot for it.

>>2730357
Why put a scope on it if you are worry about weight. with 10 round and no scope you are talking less 9 pounds.

>>2730725
I'm not concerned with it while I'm hunting, I said it's not that heavy. I just wouldn't want to have to haul it around every time I went out. It's cumbersome. It has nothing to do with the scope. I was just giving an estimate of total weight that I carry it around with, when I do, during hunting trips. A one pound difference is nothing and wouldn't change anything. I just don't see any reason to take it everywhere when I have lighter, easier to carry alternatives for a near zero chance encounter.

As for heavy for a scout rifle, that's a category standard I didn't set. Just saying it doesn't meet the official Jeff Cooper standard.

>>2728510
I carry a bag of catnip and an Egyptian Rasheed. The cat must choose, peace or death.

>>2728510
https://youtu.be/BXhfZRE08ko?si=cB8<wbr>E8K8qL-6R5bY7&t=36
dont be such a wimp. They're gentle creatures

Only have cougars and black bear to worry about on my usual spot. Cougars might get nosey and sneak up on you at night but won't attack you. Don't be a retard and eat anywhere close to where you sleep and either hang your food or have a bear canister a good ditance from where you sleep. Also sleep with a flashlight/headlamp and pistol within reach.

>>2730735
You are probably right, the Rossi R92 Triple Black, Wood, Black Cerakote, .44 Mag, 16 in would be liter.

>>2731013
I love my Rossi, but I'd prefer my shockwave over it.
>Lite.
>Can blast all shorts of shit.

>>2731013
Not sure if you're trolling or just not getting it. It still has little to do with the weight, it's about carrying a long gun, any long gun. They're just not convenient to carry around. Especially for an encounter you have a near zero percent chance of being in.

>>2728510
Solo camped a few times.
The big thing is bring a gun. There are both two and four legged threats, that you probably won't have to deal with. That said, they exist, and so does the solution.
I prefer to camp during winter. I'm down south, so it's get muggy without usually freezing. If I can get a fire going, and if I have enough water, I'm just fine. Bugs won't bug you during the winter.
It's a nice way to get out, smoke a cigar or two, maybe drink some whiskey, and read a book.
Summer camping kind of sucks, because you need to keep spraying everything with DEET and that's kind of lame.

>>2728677
what an interesting way to say 40k people go missing with no answers after 12 months

>>2731073
Pistols are just so limit. You are talking 10 or maybe 30 yards.

>>2730742
A fellow Rasheed owner?
On /out/ of all places?
Nice.

>>2728602
So there's not going to be even a single case where someone (or even a group) was attacked by wolves but survived to tell about it, as there are with every other large predator?

>>2728864
I dont believe stats either, but common sense says that if wolves are actively killing people youd also have people who remain ALIVE that would report aggressive but ultimately non fatal encounters, or even an encounter where there was an attack but the person succesfully fended them off. Wolves go for the kill and are then thwarted regularly when hunting any other animal, why would it be the case that when they hunt humans they only do so with a 100% success rate?

>>2728977
First story sounds like a murder cover up.
Second story they found remains, but I dont see any reason to think it had to be wolves, couldn't it have been the robbers?
Third and fourth seem possibly legit.

>>2730176
pitbulls have mental instability, its not how you raise them, they can be a 'good dog' and snap

>>2730176
>the retarded mouthbreather breed of dogs
>loved by the bottom-of-the-barrel working class
>bred specifically to be aggressive (bull-baiting, dogfighting)
You can raise any dog responsibly or irresponsibly, but just get yourself a normal breed at this point anon.

>>2728530
Lmao can’t handle non (((domesticated))) canids.
>be me doing /out/ shit 2015
>walk around corner of abandoned structure
>see moon dog
>at least 1.5x bigger than biggest GSD
>make eye contact and he is definitely appraising the situation
>we both turn around and go our separate ways

Anti wolf people literally believe big bad wolf stories from the 1400’s. Do you take silver with you also, and rune carved old wood talisman?

>>2731607
so it doesn't kill your kid, pet, or live stock.

>>2728822
I'm in upstate NY and the story is there's no mountain lions but I don't believe that for a second. We have the adirondacks and the whole park system. I would believe there are no wolves, but don't believe for one second there are no mountain lions.

>>2730357
You should get one more mm. 10mm is perfect for woods carry. 9 is better than nothing but it wouldn't be ideal for something like a bear or a moose in that extremely unfortunate scenario.

>>2728510
as someone once said before me
>ignore the problem
>it goes away

Not so long ago there was a mountain lion that lived in Beverley Hills/Hollywood Hills and ig never attacked any humans, so if they can live there you're basically always in range of some dangerous animal. Just learn their behaviors and know how to protect yourself. Unless you get something coming out of hibernation or with offspring they'll choose easier food than you.

>>2728510
unless you're sleeping by a cave wildcats are rare as fuck

>>2728530
A lot of the time they're gonna be nocturnal and stay out of the way of people.
No real reason to go after you unless it's a juvenile or you're encroaching on it's territory. Animals are smarter than we give them credit for.
they know what humans are capable of even if they go their whole lives not encountering one. Go point at gun at an animal, it's gonna get scared shitless or riled up
it knows what it is.
You got mountain lions in the hill country regions of texas
you dont hear about them often because they usually dont come out during the day. Shit the trail cam photo we have is from the 90s. Either way recent or not the photo of it was taken at night

>>2728510
Not fucked if you got a gun.
Those kitties, they will fuck you up and not care one bit about your attempts to walk away. You won't even know they are there unless they want you to know.

>>2728874
There are no laws against crossing state lines with a long gun, the only laws that matter are the specific regulations on where you end up when asked about it, and that is easy to research.
The biggest worry is states with super tight gun regulations right next to states with little-to-none. I grew up in New Hampshire which is probably the most lax gun law state in the union (or at least it did) while Connecticut is a two hour drive away and has the tightest gun laws, to the point you would have to be retarded and/or actively trying to create a big legal issue if you brought something from NH into CT for a weekend trip.

>>2731099
NTA, if you're having to use your gun in self defense of an animal, it'd going to be within 30 yards.

>>2732189
But what if you have to use it in self defense from people? Never bring s pistol to a rifle fight.

>>2732213
rumors of rednecks who shoot 22's over the campsites of faggots from the city are highly overstated

>>2732305
If you say so, but here in Oregon a lot of people go missing every year. I am think it might be people

>>2728510
Been watching a lot of car camping videos. Been wanting to go car camping. But then all I'm gonna do is sit around and make food a couple times.
I can fish but I don't want to keep them. I don't have a dog.

>>2728528
FPBP

Pay attention and carry a firearm. don't slather yourself in meat juices helps too. in well over 1000 outings i've run into a handful of bears and only ever seen a big cat twice. bears that snoop around camps either get relocated or killed pretty quick.

>>2728572
>>2728677

600k "go missing" and 99.9% of them either turn up quickly or end up being oh little johnny was in the closet the whole time.

>>2728761
suicides, serial killers and people who want to drop off the grid all happen at about 1000x the frequency to joe the mountain ranger found remains and didn't tell anyone. real life isn't a TV drama.

>>2732454
>600k "go missing" and 99.9% of them either turn up quickly or end up being oh little johnny was in the closet the whole time.
majority end up being found. I remember do some wilderness survival training/EPREP merit badge for scouting and the guy speaking for the class was a S&R dude. States the majority of his calls are teengagers running away from home into the woods or mental cases on the lamb. Thanks to technology such as GPS, cell phones, and aerial surveillance the amount of people that end up missing has dramatically reduced over the years.
Also a number of people who end up going missing in parks are sometimes suicide cases where the missing guy doesn’t want to be found and to enjoy his final moments in the bliss of nature before hanging or shooting himself.

>>2728510
If you live in Europe you most likely have wild boars who are more dangerous than bears and lions, because while they will try to avoid fires and sounds, boars will actively try to fuck your shit up because they meet lots of humans

>>2728575
I think I got bad blood or something because mosquitoes don't bite me and ticks don't even dare climbing on me, even when I go into tick territory and my friends get at leasta a couple on their legs. My grandfather was also like this, mosquitoes would sit on his arm and fly away a second later without even trying to bite.

>>2728530
wonder how often the Big Bad Wolf was your neighbour who strangled you and then dumped your body in the woods, so wolves would get blamed after they ate it.

>>2728510
Bears will generally leave you alone and mountain lions aren't a problem in most states.

>>2728530
idk I think its cool to have wolves in the ecosystem again the way god intended. All things considered, wolves are supposed to be frightened of humans and will be ultimately inconsequential to most. Stay strapped, clap back if they start getting too bold


Anonymous

What are some underrated, legal psychoactive plants that are relatively easy to grow in your garden?

>>2728357
>>2728358
psychosis speedrun thread. look for some peyote or san pedro cactus for strictly gardening purposes of course

OP here, forgot to mention that I'm gonna try and grow some kanna this year.

>>2728365
>peyote
Illegal to possess and illegal to grow, unless you're a native, live on the rez, and have a permit to grow it.

>>2728378
Who’s going to go into your garden and make sure you’re not growing peyote? Quit being a pussy.

Mugwort (picrel) is known for its dream-enhancing effects. It magnifies the brilliance of color and overall duration of your dreams. Known as “Molush” by the Indians of California the name translates literally to “Dream Plant”. It grows almost anywhere so you can find it growing wild in most places, so it's free.

>>2728391
Forgot to mention: you can brew it as a tea or smoke the leaves. Some people say sleeping with it under your pillow also works.

>>2728357
San Pedro, mushroom spores are legal and you can grow them in a closet or under the bed though possession is illegal

>>2728391
>>2728393
It doesn't.
t. have drank a lot of mugwort tea because hippie ex-gf liked it

>>2728384
And you're going to acquire it how?

>File deleted
Why, it was a comfy pic of a Hindu Pepe and a cow.

>>2728391
>>2728409
You'll want Calea zachatechichi (aztec dream herb) for that.

>>2728384
This! No one is going to report you unless you're growing something like weed that has an obvious shape and pungent odor. Peyote is a small cactus and takes years to grow. San pedro has the same active(Mescaline) and I see it growing wild and in people's yards. No one cares.

Grow something that amazes normies like toothache herb or miracle fruit. You can also get psychoactive mushrooms to establish in wood chip mulches.

>>2728412
Go to Texas and pick it out the ground and transplant it or buy seeds online somewhere.

>>2728413
>posting antisemitic hate symbols on a blue board

>>2728378
Have you tried not being an american?

>>2728442
It's just a hindu symbol for the sun and well being bro. You shouldn't let people take symbols or words away from you

>>2728413
>>2728442
It's because the jannies here are frogphobic

Terence McKenna was the hippie who popularized mushrooms in the west. He may have been the guy who discovered ayahuasca and introduced it to the west.

We wrote a book on how to grow mushrooms, which are legal in some places in the US: Psilocybin: Magic Mushroom Grower's Guide. And I know for a fact he’s mentioned plants in the US that ayahuasca could be derived from (these are sometimes called “pharmahuasca”).

There are also frogs. The Colorado River toad is legal to own as a pet, but produces a poison that’s a controlled substance. Supposedly the natives would spread the poison on a rock, allow it to dry, then scrape it off and smoke it. I think modern druggies use a piece of glass rather than a rock, and I think it’s incredibly dangerous (and definitely illegal). But again, the frogs are totally legal and pretty hardy, so they’re easy to keep as an exotic pet.

>>2728460
Lol.
OP did ask for legal substances, though. Peyote is not only illegal, but it has some kind of federal protection due to its vulnerable status (I don’t think it’s endangered; maybe threatened?).

>>2728475
Syrian rue is very easy to grow(it's a weed) and it has harmalas in it(the MAOI found in caapi aka ayahuaska vine) You can find them easily online as well and are 100% legal. For your DMT containing plant you'll want Mimosa hostillis or Acacia confusa or one of the other DMT containing plants. You can buy MH root bark online legally and easily. Acacia confusa has DMT in the leaves, bark(root and branch) and body proper. MH only has it in large enough concentrations to extract in the root bark.

Syrian rue, B. caapi, MH and Acacia confusa are all 100% legal to own and grow. Pick one MAIO and one DMT bearing and you have what you need to make ayahuaska.

>>2728357
I see Datura stramoniumall over the place here. Wild and cultivated. Not saying I recommend or even suggest trying it. But it is a very pretty plant and it is highly psychoactive.

>>2728357
Opium poppies(papaver somniferum) are legal to grow and you can buy the seeds at any garden store. Just avoid Norman/Tasmanian poppies. They've been breed to only contain the alkaloids that require chemical extraction for pharmaceutical drugs like oxycodone

Just FYI, any plant based substances will take you a year or more to grow enough to have a usable amount. While technically not legal and this not what you necessarily asked for, you can have mushrooms(spores to fruiting mushrooms) in under 2 months. If you're looking to have something soonish, fungus is your friend.

>>2728504
And you can buy everything you need to grow them, legally *I meant to add

>>2728766
In general, it takes 3-6 months from seed to small plant and a year to get a good size plant that you're not going to kill when harvesting from it. It's not necessarily true 100% of the time, there are exceptions to every rule. I've never grown any ephedra plants, so I couldn't say for sure. But they are also illegal in the US. Not that I'd be concerned with getting busted growing it, it's not an obvious plant. But I don't know how easy/hard it would be to get seeds. Be careful with ephedra, it's one of the bases used for meth.

>>2728903
Mormon Tea is legel AFAIK, since it contains zero ephedrine.

>>2730837
Ah, ok, I didn't know that. I'm somewhat familiar with ma huang(ephedra sinica) from reading. I assumed Mormon Tea(epedra nevadensis) was just the US version of the Chinese plant(ma huang)

Is it still a stimulant,even without the epedrine? I see that it is not banned, unlike ma huang, because it doesn't contain ephedrine or pseudoephedrine. What is the active compound? I'll read up on it more...

>>2731050
Hmm.... So there are several different plants that are all called Mormon Tea: Ephedra trifurca, Ephedra viridis, Ephedra torreyana, Ephedra nevadensis, and Ephedra californica. They do contain ephedrine, as well as pseudoephedrine, norephedrine, and methylephedrine. But they're not bannd like ma huang. Some of the listed plants are lower in the compounds and some are higher. I'm not sure how they made it past the 2004 ban. Mormon Tea suplements were banned in 2004, but not the plant itself, unlike ma huang. Good to know. Ephedrine is a great bronchodilator.

>>2731052
one last.....Quora says they do contain the alkeloids, wokapedia says they do and don't with two different sources. And there are other sites that say both as well. So, take your pick? Aside from ceffeine, there aren't any other stimulants associated with the ephedra plants. They have a high tannin content. But that's not going to help you. I'm not sure what the "medicinal" properties would be without any ephedrine compounds. Unless it's just the caffeine..

>>2728503
I found the seeds are not generally available in the US, but I got some online. The only poppy varieties I've seen in stores are California, Iceland, common/corn poppy, and oriental poppy. Iceland poppy is really nice too, but I don't think it has any opium, just pretty flowers.

You can legally order psilocybin mushroom spores in the US

>>2728501
I only bought and ate datura inoxia seeds online. I woke the next day with no memory of what happened and I was alone so I'll never know what it was like. Only for true space cadets

>>2733219
I've found them at walmart. They're labled "bread seed" poppies.


>watch youtube noo
>whips out cheap chinese non full tang machete
>begins to baton green wet wood off a living tree
>chops down whole forest
>makes massive bonfire

No nigger! All you need is twigs! Gather a faggot and you're good to go.

If I see you with a bonfire I immediately skip your video.

The military solved the outdoor mess kit long ago. get one of these bad boyss in pic related with a canteen, cup/pot, range, and pouch. stick a spork in there and a ferro rod and steel keychain and its FUCKING PERFECT. the only problem with these is nobody buys them so theyre cheap

the military SOLVED this shit nigger wisen the fuck up. christ!

>>2728274
>image shows them boiling the entire canteen with the cap on it, instead of just water in the cup
Lol.

>>2728274
Cant i just put the cup directly on the fire? Whats the little stand for?

>>2728274
Wish they made steel caps. There's only one model I could find and it's laughably pricy.

>>2728274
for some reason there are a lot of these( the canteens) made in plastic. seen them in surplus stores too. quite annoying

>>2728531
As long as the melting point of the plastic is above the boiling point of water you can boil water in it.
It won't heat up beyond the boiling temperature of water as long as there's still water in it.

I'll have a big fire if I want a big fire faggot.

>>2728531
That's because often those canteens are made to expand with the said contents if frozen. And the cup is there to boil water with anyways.

>>2728274
They all seem to be aluminium. Why no steel construction? I don't want alzheimers.

>>2728731
>I don't want alzheimers.
how is this myth still perpetuated

>>2728531
>for some reason there are a lot of these( the canteens) made in plastic.
>actual vietnam era ones were plastic
find them surplus thru the 80s
most plastic ones now recent production

http://www.vietnamgear.com/kit.aspx<wbr>?kit=18

>>2728731
>Why no steel construction?
>still needs a stand

https://alfa1official.com/product/s<wbr>tainless-steel-water-canteen/

>>2728881
There was a good reason, but I forgot what it was.

>>2728881
>>2730471
1.Boomer
2. All research that strayed outside of the mainstream amyloid hypothesis (which connects aluminum to Alzheimer’s) was shunned by the scientific community for well over a decade while the original research into that theory was based on falsified data. Look it up. We’re probably 15 or 20 years behind where we should be (which is insane when you consider how far medical research has progressed). Inb4 Covid. I’m talking about real shit, not politicized nonsense.

>>2730471
>There was a good reason, but I forgot what it was.

>>2728663
Plastic is inherently gay and turns you gay/trans as it fucks up your endocrine system

>>2728274
Preach. Home made woodgas anons rise up

>>2731191
Add one of these to your fire kit and thank me later. It tuns sticks into perfect tinder in seconds. Shave a couple of large pencile sized sticks of fatwood down and fire is the easiest thing in the world for cheap.

>>2731522
no amount of abstaining from aluminium will save you from the retardation you already have

>>2731329
Holy shit I can’t believe I never thought of this

>>2731550
>REEEE consume the metal slave!!!111
no.
kek.


>>2728678
when i'm /out/, i don't feel those things
skill issue

I don't have those when I'm /out/, I have them when I'm at home.

>>2728678
i got that feeling one time after hiking 25 miles in grizzly country and it was dark out, how i solved it was setting up my tent and passing out, woke up feeling probably the best i have ever felt in my life.

>>2728678
I don't feel vulnerable and solitude is the whole point.

>>2728678
>Lolniness
Christ lives within
>vulnerability
Bring weapon

>>2728678
I feel the opposite. Also, Lord Jesus Christ is with me, always.

>>2728934
Jesus Christ won't save you from a bear, hypothermia, getting lost, etc.

>>2728964
also being afraid and alone is part of the fun

>>2728959
How poignant thank you for that. Now I'm an atheist.

>>2728678
>loneliness
That's why I go /out/
>Vulnerability
I just accept that I could die, like any time in life.

>>2728678
>How do you handle feelings of loneliness and vulnerability when alone and /out/?
Bitch, the reason I /out/ is because I feel lonely and vulnerable in modern society.

>>2728678
Unironically skill issue. I always feel sufficiently capable of dealing with whatever problems arise, and consider relying on my own skills and equipment to do so as part of the enjoyment. The one exception being when I hear something big moving nearby at night. In which case I grab a weapon and prepare for imminent death.

As for loneliness, I always feel alone. At least the trees don’t judge me for it

>>2728875
And a backup weapon. One heater and one good sized blade.

>>2728678
>feelings of loneliness
I hate people so being alone is nice
>and vulnerability
carry gun

>How do you handle feelings of loneliness and vulnerability when alone and /out/?
That's the best part about being alone and out.

I usually just get very horny when /out/ and imagine meeting nature spirits for sex, it's almost unavoidable at this point, at some point on a hike alone I WILL get an erection.<br>Vulnerable? Vulnerable to sex from nubile forest spirits / creatures.


What are some of your biggest accomplishments and happiest moments in life?

>>2728862
/out/ related? Made it on a wildland fire crew for a little while. I know it's not hard to get signed on since they take anyone that's not outright mentally retarded or paraplegic and can pass a WCT, but I pulled myself out of 10+ years of drug and alcohol addiction to get there. Moving across the country on my own was no small feat, either. I eventually got filtered out for a different medical condition I developed mid-season and can't do it anymore. I miss it every day, even if it paid like utter horseshit.

>>2728862
>/out/ related
Made and lived soley out of an altoids tin survival kit for an entire week in the Appalachian boonies. Snared a couple squirrels, a raccoon, and fished for my food. I'd grown up in the sticks, but I definitely wasn't a survivalist and it was insanely challenging.

A close tie was managing a 2 day caving trip through Friars Hole in WV with pretty much no caving experience. I got wrapped up in an expedition with a professional survey group that was going super deep while I was at a VAR event and sort of negated to tell them I was inexperienced. I managed to keep up with the front of their group and they were impressed with me. Was underground for 25 hours, and they just about shit themselves at the end of the trip when I told them that was like my second time underground, kek.

>non /out/ related
Own and operate my own little machine shop @ 26y/o and own my house. Happiest day in my life was paying off my land. Thanks for reading my blog.

>>2728973
Work capacity test
Bottom line basic bitch physical fitness test all wildland fire guys have to do annually. 3 mile trek in 45min or less with 45lbs of gear
Some more specialized crews have their own set of standards they require personnel to meet, just depends on where you are and who you sign on with

>>2728986
How'd you get started running your own shop? I always played around with the idea of starting my own small business hoping it would give me some more flexibility to do /out/ stuff, being my own boss and all.

>>2728862
Climbing all 282 of these mountains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munro<wbr>

>>2728993
I worked for another shop for a while and learned under an old master machinist. Took every opportunity I could to talk with customers and get my name out there. When another local machine shop closed down due to the dude dying, I spent every last penny I had buying up his tools and rented shop space. Had enough preliminary customers from connections at the first shop to keep me afloat until I started making a name for myself and could bring new people in.
My situation was definitely a right place at the right time kind of thing, but I've been busting my ass to make it happen. Owning the place is so much more work and a hell of a lot more stressful than just working for someone else, but the satisfaction of being your own boss is like nothing else. When work slows down in the winter, I spend nearly all of my time /out/, it's awesome.

>>2728987
>3 mile trek in 45min or less with 45lbs of gear
I fail lol
at least there's no drug test

Shooting a nice 14blpt stag that took a lot of hunts to get to him. But really I've done nothing impressive /out/, my best achievement is just getting it done again and again and never getting bored, I'm always trying to get deer in new places and I succeed at that every now and then.

>>2729012
Its really not as hard as it sounds, you could prepare for it in a few months at most
And there is a drug test

>>2729007
Glad to hear you found your niche, that sounds like a good life to lead. Was thinking about picking up a trade or something trade-adjacent after I left wildland fire like I mentioned here >>2728880
and it's always nice to hear success stories.

>>2729275
>And there is a drug test
but WHY
god shit is retarded
fuck them i hope the forest burns down

>>2729143
So your biggest achievement is killing stuff? Anyone can do that.

>>2729372
I dont want a crackhead on the line putting me and everyone else at risk

>>2728862

>saved up for my own rifle
>learned to shoot on my own
>learned to stalk on my own
>killed my first buck and turkey this year

Trying for grouse next season

>>2728862
Two white sons who love going /out/.

>>2729363
Thanks mate, I appreciate it. If you're going into the trades, just do your research; I know some trades are beginning to get oversaturated now. Also congrats on kicking the drugs, mate. I'd always wanted to do the ranger thing, but couldn't cope with the pay. Wildland fire sounds fun as fuck.

>>2729421
Most people on 4chan wouldn't even know how to load a gun. Even on /k/.

>>2729394
about 7 years? from #1 to the end
I was working/studying so mostly doing it on weekends and spending all my annual leave from work on hiking trips to do them but I did ape into it pretty hard.
Covid lockdowns kept me away from them for a while. As did a job which kept me very isolated for a year put a hold on my progress

>>2728862
/out/ related, when I shot my first squirrel with a longbow. It's not so much the shooting the squirrel part, but all the work, money and practice that goes into getting to a point where you can do something like that. Worth it though.

Some of my happiest moments in (adult) life have been on my /out/ trips with my girlfriend. Specifically when we went to Algonquin park for a few nights, when she caught a musky on the French River after 6 hours of paddling against 40-50km/h winds, and our time exploring crown land around our family cottage. We've found some lakes that hardly anyone knows about where we can catch smallmouths on almost every catch. We've made some damn good campfire meals out of those.

>>2729443
This is the next step for me. Hunting grouse with a longbow just doesn't work in my region. They're too spooky and fly off before you're in range.

>>2729421
>I have never been hunting before
Nice to know.

>>2728862
(Assuming /out/)

College summer jobs working as wilderness guide for groups of teens. Great community/friendships with coworkers, summer romances with coworkers, got to be silly and fun with the kids and play the games we stop playing as adults. Getting paid (meagerly) to whitewater raft, paddle, cave, hike, etc.

Maximum effort sport climbing and scary trad climbing.

Beautiful moments with wildlife encounters and stunning landscapes while backpacking.

>>2729421
Yeah I'm a simple man, what's my life got anything to do with your day?

I proposed to my gf at the end of a cool hike we did in Glacier National Park. She dumped me almost 1 year later though.


Striped Jackrabbit pelt? Normal?

I'm a beginner tanner, I've been practicing by tanning a few hides, never seen this before though. I noticed the skin is striped? This was a wild black tailed jackrabbit caught in the West Coast USA. Is this normal?? I researched it to death, and I can't find anything about what can cause striped skin in a jackrabbit. It was a healthy looking rabbit, very responsive, no lethargy or anything like that, just wondering if this is normal or some sort of disease?

>>2728631
This is pretty normal anon AFAIK. Rabbits have really really really thin skin, almost as thin as a bird's, and that means you can see the coloration of the skin through the interior. If you ever had a multi-colored dog with spots and parted its fur in different locations, you'd see that some spots are pink while others are black. That's what you're seeing here. Sometimes that matches with the coloration/pattern of the fur, sometimes it doesn't. Don't worry about it; completely normal.

I'm afraid that this is a classic case of rabbit AIDS. Please go get tested anon.

>>2728631
was the rabbit female? if so, look into X chromosome inactivation. females have two X chromosomes but one is deactivated randomly upon embryonic elongation. this is why calico cats have a mix of mom and dads fur color. human women have this too but is only visible under UV spectrum cameras

>>2728631
This is pretty normal. I think it occurs when the coat begins to transition from winter to summer. I've seen it in cottontails and jackrabbits. Other furbearers will sometimes display this as their coats are changing, too. I don't think I've ever seen it on any pelt between October and the beginning of January, possibly the beginning of February.


MAKE IT STOP OH GOD OF THE PLAINS

I JUST WANT TO GO FOR A PEACEFUL WALK FUCK

>>2729034
Every day I pray Denver burns to the ground.

>>2729250
God does not answer prayers like this.

You must be praying to something else

>>2729294
I bet you listen to that santanic music too

>>2728919
better than at cursed scorching Sun
today it nice THOUGH

Anyone seeing this solar storm? Thinking of driving North but it might be too late.

>>2729034
>its making fire dangers
its been raining for like 36 hours you transplant troon

>>2731477
look at the date dumbass

also what do you think that borealis effect is goint to do? probably dry it all up again

>no I don't have a dollar
>no I don't have any quarters
>no I don't have a cigarette

They are these fucks gathering somewhere that has such harsh winters? Hell it routinely gets below freezing at night in the Summer

>>2731764
what?
the most homelesses are on the west coast

>>2731858
just because you're used to it doesn't mean it's normal Califag

>>2729261
O Daughter of Babylon, you destroyer,
 happy will he be who repays you
 for the suffering you inflicted upon us!
Happy will he be who seizes your babies
 and smashes them against a rock!


Getting over creeps while solo wild camping?

Fore the record I've technically been solo camping a bunch but I've always been within eye sight of other campers. I've been wild camping with friends/my ex but never alone.

I'm not usually afraid of the outdoors and when I do feel nervous about something once I start doing it I'm fine. I love to go through night drives and explore hoods, which I know is way more dangerous.

My main fear is for some reason I'll go a bit crazy and flee from my campsite and get disoriented. There's some mountain lions periodically out here but they're super super rare. I slept in grizzly country before but, again, not alone.

Anybody else feel a bit nervous then realize it wasn't that bad once you got out there?

Ive never spent the night at any of the places i go, but then again solo camping in the Everglades is not a good idea. Im not so much creeped out but rather afraid of getting heat stroke 10-15 miles in the jungle and no one knowing where i am. Longest I have been in the Everglades alone was an 18 mile walk from 7am to 9pm.

>>2729100
I'd only worry about getting lost,because that would be the only way that I would encounter problems. Get a comfy camp site going in a sheltered place like under a low-growing tree, and enjoy the solitude and peacefulness. You can always listen to podcasts etc. if you feel isolated.

>>2729100
Yes, same here. As I get older it gets worse.
>inb4 alcohol
That only makes it harder to get a good night's sleep.

This is a pretty shitty thread.

Why are you typing like this, OP?

The only way to get over it is to stop being a pussy.

Become that which is feared instead of being the one who is fearful.

Don't care about dying. I accept the possibility I can buy it out there.

>>2729100
When I'm /out/ I only worry about /x/ stuff.

>>2729131
This is how I do it. If it's my time, it's my time.

>>2729127
>Paragraphs are for pussies, Holmes

>>2729100
Can't relate. Maybe you're just a pussy, bro.

[spoiler] The real reason I can't relate is that I've never been solo wild camping, I've only ever been camping with friends or a partner. I'm pretty certain I wouldn't get the creeps but who knows. [/spoiler]

>>2729446
Same. I can car camp in the most violent crackhead new black panther party infested shithole ghetto just fine solo but the sticks freak me out. Wierd because I grew up in a small town.

>>2729100
Is there a small Island, or piece of higher land in the middle of a swamp near you Anon?
Maybe it'll calm your nerves if what's "out there" is seperated from your site by a shitton of water.

Be me, AZN camper … by myself. I hope no white people bullies me like at work. Cry myself to sleep after a bowl of MAMA and some shrimp. Pray for world peace and for my parents. Maybe a GF, Lord willing.

>>2729501
>Reddit spacing is now paragraphs because retards have no clue
Die in a fire newfag.

>>2729100
I used to have the same issue as you anon. I would happily go deep in the woods with friends, spend days in the bush however was afraid when alone. I found what helped me get over the fear was remember. It’s all in your head, everything has an explanation, most animals are afraid of you and wish to avoid you.

Also carry a gun.

>>2729100
I've gone solo backpacking several times. It can get a little spooky but thats part of the charm. I find walking out past the light of your camp fire and looking back at your camp somehow helps. Its the way the campifire lights up a certain amount but leaves everything else darker so you cant see past the circle of light- that freaks me out

>>2730324
The really great part is when you go out into the woods and turn back to your camp only to see yourself sitting by the fire staring fearfully out into the night and you don't know if what you're seeing is actually you or something pretending to be you and then you think that maybe you were pretending to be you all along and will never make it back to the fire, shit's crazy lol

>>2729520
Been scared of ayylmaos since I was a kid. Before that I was scared of tornadoes and skeletons, but ayylmaos was the fear that stuck.

>>2729100
nah. i'm on the east coast we just have rednecks (will only harass minorities) and black bears (harmless)

>>2730298
Nta, but that's not reddit spacing you stupid faggot.

Just need to have that stone cold knowledge that you are the most dangerous motherfucker around.

I only feel apprehension around men of similar power because they could potentially be as dangerous as me, but its not likely.

>>2729100
I have two ideas.

You could try weening yourself off from camping around others, you already camped within eyesight of other campers so mayber try camping in eyesight of a ranger station/firewatch tower, then in eyesight of unmanned landmarks like cell towers/powerlines/boat launches, then finally out of site of all these. Try getting farther and farther eachtime, having manmade landmarks will make you psychologically feel close to people even if there aren't any on/in them. Also carry a gun if you can.

the second idea is be the thing your afraid of, wear camo and watch other campers from afar, instead of walking through the woods sneak through them being careful with how much noise you make and staying hidden with bushes, as you hike pick up sticks and fibers to make strange little talismans and hang them from trees, at night get out of your tent and make alot of noise like howling and laughing into the dark woods to scare other campers, Also carry a gun again.

>>2730777
That Anon here, yeah me too. Used to have gnarly nightmares of that shit constantly that would get me screaming until I woke up until I moved to the big city. I miss the peace of nature though.

>>2729100
>Is anyone else scared of the dark ?
No

>>2730324
If you really get freaked out about that, try stealth camping.

Keep the fire going only when it's light out. At night, try to keep everything pitch black.

If you need it, use red light to preserve your night vision and reduce visibility.

It's even better if you get all your gear in camo patterns.

>>2730324
That's actually the best thing to do if you get the spooks is just get up and go look at whatever is spooking you. Because it'll look just like what it did during the day, but almost calmer somehow. It'll be nice and you might want to walk around some more.

>>2729100
>creeps
>not bleeps
>not sweeps
https://youtu.be/B9K4N328OI8?si=4w4<wbr>WGPrASF1u81Ou

>>2732607
>how many assholes do we have on this camp anyways

>>2731044
lol. second idea reminds me of that fucking ghillie suit greentext

>>2729100
>when I do feel nervous about something once I start doing it I'm fine

There's your answer OP. It's a little spooky the first few times and after that it's fine. Bring a weapon and sleep with it next to you if it helps.

>>2732583
>if you get all your gear in camo patterns.
If you don't have all your gear in neon or other unnatural colors and nobody is actively searching for you, camo is overkill.

Just don't move, don't use lights after dark unless you absolutely need to, make sure that your tarp is at least below your waistline and you're going to be fine, especially if you're camping in the US where if you are in true wilderness you have basically zero chances of meeting anyone.

it's statistically impossible that two serial killers run into each other in the woods.

>>2732830
>statistically impossible for two serial killers to run into each other in the best place to hide a body.

Not to mention who tf asked

>>2729100
I've been "solo" camping multiple times, but if I'm heading off without other people I always bring my dog with me. I've not been in grizzly country but I've spent a lot of time hiking and camping in mountain lion territory. If I'm going to be alone, having both my Malinois and a gun with me goes a long way to making me feel more secure.

>>2729100
I'm too scared of people to sleep anywhere near them while camping, unless it's family/friends. Just be scared of others judging you and you'll prefer the unsafety of solitude.

>>2732853
> Implying that OP is a serial killer. XD

>>2732868
>Going into mountain lion country alone
>Bring dogs
That's quite literally statistically the worst thing you can do. Being alone is bad enough, alone with dogs is way worse. There's a reason a lot of places in mountain lion country don't allow you to bring dogs.

>>2733409
Why is this? What happens, the mountain lion wants to hunt your dog?


Good campfire meals that don't require refrigeration/cooler

Heyo

I'm going camping and looking for some good recipes that pack nicely and require minimal cooler space. and also taste good. I will have access to a wood stove and a small gas burner

breakfast recipes:
>oatmeal with, water, salt, dehydrated berries/foraged berries, peanut butter and chocolate chips (unsweetened)

Lunch or supper recipes:
>canned mackarel/foraged fish with herbs, orzo (pasta), and spinach
>beans or pea soup and turkey sausage

snacks:
>fruits, nuts, and chips

and thats it. im kind of drawing blanks after that

>>2729557
keep a jar of bouillon cubes with you, always good for whatever (fun to suck on too)
if you want, i guess you could try making hummus, just mash up some cooked chickpeas & put any oil in it, boom, hummus
if you brought powdered eggs, i imagine you could make eggdrop soup
smoked / dried beef &/or venison is a classic for making a soup or stew
cornmeal goes a long way in a lot of dishes
dehydrated sweet potato makes a ridiculously good filler in soups & stews, same with pumpkin too
aside from peanut butter, sunflower butter does a really good job for a more sweeter touch
those little crystalized lemon / lime packets are amazing for flavoring water, plus, if you mixed one up in a just little bit of water, they act as a single wedge's worth, so they'd be perfect to add to any fish
chili powder is always there to make an instant chili, like the cowboys did

>>2729557
Breakfast: MOUNTAIN HOUSE BREAKFAST SKILLET

Lunch: MOUNTAIN HOUSE BREAKFAST SKILLET

Dinner: MOUNTAIN HOUSE BREAKFAST SKILLET

Dessert: CIGARETTE

Snacks: 2KG BULK PACK HARIBO GUMMY BEARS (UNSWEETENED)

Drink: PICREL

Good:
Salami
Penut butter
Trail mix
Tea and Coffee. Chai late sachets.
Electrolyte sachets
Fibre bars
Fruit straps
Pancake mix (dry)
Hard cheese
Crackers

Bad:
Tins
Dry grains
Dry legumes
Bottles
Eggs
Fruit
Pemmican

I generally wouldn't recommend repackaging things because it's unreliable, most of the things in obnoxious packaging are perishable anyway. MRE packaging is for supply chain logistics, for the user mre just means a shit load of packaging.
Vacuum packing has merit.

>>2729557
Instant soups, anything in a can or MOUNTAIN HOUSE BREAKFAST SKILLET.

But seriously if you're just going camping this isn't even a big concern. Just get something in a can and heat it. You're out camping dude, it'll taste good. I like crackers, nuts and dried fruit for snacks.

the question heavily depends on the type of camping you'll be doing
are you camping from a car? then you can bring canned goods
if you're backpacking you need to be more strategic and are limited to carrying things that are lightweight and can be cooked with hot water, reheated in boiling water, or eaten cold

>>2729653
Do people going backpacking call that camping? I've heard people who carry their stuff half a mile to a site pretend that's backpacking before. But backpackers don't call that camping that I'm aware of. Camping is drive-up camping. I dunno, maybe it's a regional difference.

>>2729653
camping from a car, not backpack camping.

>>2729649
meh, i did that once, just brought a bunch of stuff like that and yolo'd and it really sucked eating that for 3 days. i want nice meals.

>>2729561
i think ill bring some steaks for the first night. good tips thanks

>>2729654
There's no set standard, for me it's easier to distinguish the difference between "car-camping" and "camping" by calling it "car-camping" and "backpacking" (which includes camping). If you ask me, so long as you have to carry your stuff at least over two miles through unpaved trail, that's bare-minimum backpacking. That alone will limit what you can bring in comparison to car-camping.

>>2729660
I feel like there is a standard. If you've got a pack that goes on your back and that's how you take your stuff from place to place, that's backpacking. If you go to a place and set up a camp, that's camping. I dunno: everyone who doesn't live in the Western US is weird so maybe it's different.

>>2729663
Well yes, you often set up camp while you are backpacking, thus you are "camping". The reason why we distinguish "camping" from "car-camping" is because the latter allows you many more amenities than the former. If you call "car-camping" just "camping" it's hard to tell if someone is hiking 15 miles to their campsite or driving up with their SUV.

>>2729666
I'm willing to chalk it up to regional differences. But honestly I've been camping and backpacking for decades (in my early forties, my dad took us backpacking the first time when I was maybe 11). Never have I once heard a single person refer to backpacking as "camping." Never have I heard anyone refer to anything as camping other than "car-camping" or "walk a mile in" camping.

>>2729666
Car camping is just a form of camping, it's not a whole new category. And there's no hyphen in "car camping".

>>2729674
Right, the point is that there is a distinction between camping done with a car and camping done without one. If you ask me, so long as you are setting up a camp somewhere, you are camping, be it from a car or while you are backpacking.

>>2729654
Camping in general is where you set up a limited, temporary dwelling somewhere and live there for a bit. Where that location is and how you get your stuff there where the differences are.

>>2729681
Seriously no one calls backpacking "camping." That just isn't a thing. Is it some weird /out/ delineation you guys have invented and is only internally meaningful? You go cannoning or rafting. That can involve camping. You go backpacking and that can include camping. You go on a rock climbing trip or a hunting trip and that can include camping. But if you're "going camping," you're driving to a place and pitching some tents, or at most walking a mile in. That's what you mean when you say you're going "camping," because the camping is the activity itself.

>>2729686
Bro the original post >>2729653 was asking if OP was backpacking (and presumably camping) at the spot he planned to camp, as opposed to camping from out of his car at drive-in ground.
What the hell do you call camping that doesn't fit your criteria of "driving to a place and pitching some tents, or at most walking a mile in"? Your own definition doesn't even fit the other examples you provided of going canoeing, rafting, hunting, etc.
Have you seriously never heard of car camping? Yes, some people mean car camping when they saying camping, but that's because it's a vague blanket statement that covers all types of camping, from primitive/wilderness/backcountry to glamping.

>>2729686
Idk what you're talking. Backpacking in an /out/ context (across the entire community, not just on 4chan) is a form of camping where you take your shit with you in a backpack. That's all.
Maybe you're confusing it with thruhiking where you have a multiday hiking trip? Thruhikes almost inherently require backpacking, but there are times when you can stop in towns along the trail and get a motel and a hot meal, which isnt really camping. And similarly there are backpacking scenarios where you hoof it to a camping spot that you stay at for a week and then hoof it back.
Or maybe you're conflating it with travel backpacking, like where you carry a change of clothes and a passport while hopping trains across Europe.

>>2729615
>Pemmican
why the fuck is Pemmican bad? selfmade Pemmikan and selfmade Beef Jerky are godlike for /out

>>2729557
Picrel, and you can get a lot of single serve stuff in plastic or sealed foil packs that are a little heavy but on short trips is whatevs, like tamales, also pickled eggs, single serve packets of pickled jalapeños…no refrigeration necessary and they can add a little substance to what might otherwise be trail slop

>>2729557
For a while I was really into Indian food that comes in retort pouches. Sometimes I wouldn't even heat it up. You can also get plain shredded chicken in retort pouches. Just dump in some salt and spices and chow down.

A lot of people wouldn't backpack with heavy hydrated foods like this, but I go places where I have to carry all my water anyway.

>>2729561
>try making hummus
the hippie grocery near me sells dry powdered hummus in bulk. it's really good.

>>2729741
the same reason hardtacks are bad: its a pain in the ass to eat and tastes like shit
there's a reason it stops becoming "popular" once food packaging started to get good

>>2729557
country ham. any kind of canned meat really unless you are a sperg about cans

>>2729735
OP here, sigh, this is a subject I know about. Camping as a concept in North America emerged WITH the automobile so there is in fact good reason to automatically assume camping means "car camping" automatically.

Anyway, I didn't mention in the OP but I am also looking to avoid processed goyslop in plastic bags. With the help of this thread I have thought up of 2 new recipes. I also don't know why one anon recommended against dry grains, they seem ideal

>salami, hard cheese, lentils, green on the side (probably also spinach

Guaranteed forest SEXO meal

>group meal: Carbonara: Use 4 onions, bag of spaghetti, pancetta (which is cured pork), some eggs if available but not strictly necessary, and parmesan or pecorino cheese, both hard and preserve well
>Boil spagett

in one pan
>carmelize onion
>soften up pancetta

On the side:
>beat eggs
>shred cheese

When pasta is ready
>strain, throw it into the pan that has the pancetta and onion
>combine with eggs, cheese, mix in IMMEDIATELY and the egg will cook and bind to the hot pasta
>mix it all up

>when served, add more cheese
>guaranteed SEXO with all females within vicinity

>>2730168
i should state that I'm staying in a giant 4 person canvas tent with a woodstove and burner lol

>>2729557
refried beans with rice, sharp cheddar cheese, taco seasoning and Frito's
quick easy and filling

Simmer brats in beer at home to cook them then freeze before adding to your cooler. Perfect for dinner your second night, just roast over the fire

>>2730168
>OP here
>sigh
>SEXO
>SEXO
OP is a faggot, as always. Are you car camping? Gives you some options.

>>2730195
fuck this again with the "car camping" did I name the JPG "car camping"? it's just camping. and yes I'm bringing a car. as previously stated.

>>2729557
breakfast
>catch a grouse or quail
lunch
>catch a fish and forage wild garlic
dinner
>roast hare

>>2730423
Why are you such a child about this? I'm not the anon you're arguing textbook definitions with, nor did I read through all that terminally online horseshit. I was just trying to figure out what exactly it is you're doing so I can tailor advice to it.

You can bring a whole ass grill. Canned sauces. The world is your oyster when it comes to car camping and cooking. Fishing would save you some cooler space, but canned fish as backup sounds like a plan.

Depending on how long you're staying, you can easily dry most fruits in advance in a dehydrator. I make jerky in mine, too. Good snacks all around, and again takes up no cooler space.

>>2729557
Powdered soups, such a nice thing to pack. Make it thin like a refreshing drink, or thick for a meal. The mushroom one makes a great base for sauce, just mix it up with chrozio or rice.

>>2730429
>refreshing drink
I know you meant for that to sound fancy, but the thought of drinking cream of broccoli from a water bottle like it's a fucked-up gatorade test flavor is less than appetizing

>>2730427
I was sorta pulling your leg but c** camping genuinly irks me. its fine.

dehydrator is a cool idea but don't think i go /out/ enough to have one. Dehydrated foods are hella expensive but jerky is nice. ill make sure to pack some. Honeslty, I'm just going to chill for 3 days on a small remote peninsula in a canvas stove, probably in the rain, but the wood stove will keep me dry. I'm really looking forward to it

>>2730489
canvas stove. lol. Canvas tent and a wood stove

>>2730489
>dehydrator is a cool idea but don't think i go /out/ enough to have one. Dehydrated foods are hella expensive
yeah that's the whole point of having one, and for the record most people dont use dried foods solely during camping. like i make banana chips to snack on at home and shit. And even still, your oven should be able to do it too

>>2729557
Buckwheat with those crunchy fried onions, marjoram, garlic and any kind of meat.
Traditionally you fry real onions with bacon, salo, or kielbasa but on the trail any dried meat will do.
Apparently Americans have something called bacon bits which seem perfect for this, as long as you find ones made out of real bacon.

>>2730489
The dehydrator I have is a pretty cheap one (60 bucks, goes up to 70 degrees Celsius which is enough for jerky). I dehydrate apple slices which I add some cinnamon to, banana slices, strawberry slices (super sweet). No added sugar.

Jerky is crazy expensive when you buy it premade. You obviously lose some weight when you dehydrate meat, but if you compare the price by weight for lean beef to jerky, it just doesn't compare at all. If you change your mind, be sure to get the leanest meat you can and trim off any fat (it won't keep well otherwise).

You can also make fruit leather. I personally haven't tried that yet, but it's on my list.

>>2730499
What this anon said is true, you can prop your oven door open and get about the same results. I just never liked that idea, especially since it has to run for quite a few hours. I like turning the dehydrator on on a timer and just letting it do its thing without having to babysit it.

>>2730516
I can set my oven to convection roast at like 175° and let it do it's thing. It's electric though idk if that makes a difference

>>2730566(Me)
Checked. Also scratch that, just noticed that it literally has a dehydrate function too that I've never used

>>2730516
>Lazy fruit leather suggestion:
Buy Applesauce and dehydrate that. You can buy the kinds with different flavours for variety, or you can buy the plain stuff in jars. Obviously you get whatever they add into it but it works well and you don't have to do any of the prep to the fruit.

>>2729615
>Pemmican
Ah yes, THE survival food is bad

>>2730566
I think it's alright as long as there's airflow.

>>2731195
Thanks anon, I'm going to give that a shot. Saves me a few steps.

>>2729615
>Bad:
>Tins
>Bottles
Come on anon, you're not supposed to eat those.

>>2731197
That drooling retard lives by the goyslop meme so his opinion doesn't matter

>>2731197
OP here, since pemmican has come up, can anyone share some pemmican recipes? I made a similar concept one with a similar concept but much sweeter, like a breakfast food or energy bomb. its not truly pemmican.

>mix almond flour 1 cup
>with cocao 1/4 cup maybe less.
>with maple syrup or honey, 2 tbsp or until firmed up.

>makes a ball that looks like shit but is delicious. its sticks together but not sticky
>just keep in mind that maple syrup needs refrigeration of some sort.
>haven't tested with honey yet.
>be warned, it literally looks like shit.

>>2729654
>Do people going backpacking call that camping?
>I dunno, maybe it's a regional difference.
I think it's an American distinction.
In Australia, the UK and Europe I've only ever heard backpacking used to refer to the extended holidays where you're travelling from hostel to hostel, living out of your backpack but definitely not camping (at least not for the majority of your time), maybe hiking but more likely travelling by train/bus/hitchhiking. Camping is used to refer to both car camping and what might be called backpacking in the states.
I'd literally never heard backpacking used to refer to camping (in the sense of hiking through the woods with a tent etc) until I browsed /out/.

>>2729557
50c* is the perfect temp to dehydrate meats and vegetables. If you load your oven with sheets of thinly cut meat (bacon if you are lazy), pasta and diced vegetables, you can dry a great mix of ready meals out of it. Mix in some gravy powder and dried herbs/spices and divide them into zip locks.
When it is time to eat, add to the pot with some water and let it boil. The meat and vegetables will rehydrate and what ever water is left will boil the pasta and make a great sauce from the gravy.

>>2729615
>Pemmican bad
pleb detected. You know you're not supposed to eat it on its own right? You use it as a soup or stew base. Literally one of the best camping foods ever if you're not retarded.

>>2731547
Based post. You can also fry it up, with other things or by itself. Even modern injuns turn their nose up at eating pemmican raw.