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"content": "Well, he definitely had some rough fights.",
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"content": "But he won.",
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"content": "He won. Yeah. He’s a legend. But what it showed – I mean I’m a huge lover of Jujitsu – what it showed is that there is a method for diffusing these situations with technique and knowledge. And I think it’s also a great way to exercise too because it’s almost like the exercise is secondary to the learning of the thing. The exercise is like you want to develop strength and conditioning just so that you could be better at doing the thing. And the analogy that I use is, imagine if you had a race car and you could actually give the race car better handling and more horsepower just from your own focus and effort. That’s really what it’s like.",
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"content": "Yeah, totally. My kids… I should say, I sent my kids to Jujitsu since they were like, I don’t know, six.",
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"content": "...inaudible...",
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"content": "Good morning.",
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"content": "What kind of devices?",
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"content": "Well, like deep brain stimulation provided for Parkinson’s, it has really changed people’s lives in a big way, which is kind of remarkable because it kind of like zaps your brain. It’s like kicking the TV type of thing. You think like, man, kicking the TV shouldn’t work.",
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"content": "It does sometimes. The old TVs.",
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"content": "It did.",
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"content": "Okay, so AI is allowing us to imagine a differently powered economy that will create this abundance. What are you most worried about going wrong?",
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"content": "Well, like I said, AI and robotics will bring out what might be termed the age of abundance. Other people have used this word. And this is my prediction: it will be an age of abundance for everyone. I guess the dangers would be the artificial general intelligence or digital superintelligence decouples from a collective human will, and goes in a direction that, for some reason, we don’t like. Whatever direction it might go. That’s sort of the idea behind Neuralink, is to try to more tightly couple collective human will to digital superintelligence. And also, along the way, solve a lot of brain injuries and spinal injuries and that kind of thing. So even if it doesn’t succeed in the greater goal, I think it will succeed in the goal of alleviating brain and spine damage.",
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"content": "So the spirit there is that if we’re going to make these AIs that are so vastly intelligent, we ought to be wired directly to them so that we ourselves can have the superpowers more directly. But that doesn’t seem to avoid the risk that those superpowers might turn ugly in an unintended way.",
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"content": "No, I think it’s a risk. I agree. I’m not saying that I have some certain answer to that risk. I’m just saying like maybe one of the things that would be good for ensuring that the future is one that we want is to more tightly couple the collective human world to digital intelligence. The issue that we face here is that we are already a cyborg if you think about it. The computers are an extension of ourselves. And when we die, we have, like, a digital ghost. You know, all of our text messages and social media, emails. It’s quite eerie, actually, when someone dies, and everything online is still there.\nBut you say like, what’s the limitation? What is it that inhibits a human machine symbiosis? It’s the data rate. When you communicate, especially with the phone, you’re moving your thumbs very slowly. So you’re like moving your two little meat sticks at a rate that’s maybe 10 bits per second, optimistically, 100 bits per second. And computers are communicating at the gigabit level and beyond.",
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"content": "What did people think about Zip2 generally? Was it seen as a crazy idea? Or did people even understand the internet back then?",
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"content": "Most people didn’t understand the internet. Most people didn’t know… even on Sand Hill Road. We tried pitching people to invest in an internet company; most of the VCs we pitch to had never used the internet.",
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"content": "Do you remember some of the VC firms you went to on Sand Hill?",
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"content": "Most of them wouldn’t take a meeting. And if they did take a meeting, they were pretty bored and not… – They werelike, “Who’s made money in the internet? Like, no one, okay.” But the sea change occurred when Netscape went public. The first thing I tried to do was not to start a company. I tried to get a job at Netscape, but they didn’t reply to me. So I just tried to hang out in the lobby at Netscape. I didn’t know who to talk to. I was really too shy to talk to anyone. So, it’s like, “Okay, I can’t get a job at the only internet company that, you know, does internet software. So then I try writing software.” That’s kind of what happened there.\nAnd as I said, my brother came down and joined. This is all like late 95. And then in January 96, I think it was, there was a lot more interest in the internet stuff following the Netscape IPO. The software was more impressive, I guess. So, then Mohr Davidow invested – their VC firm on Sand Hill Road. And they invested… I think it was like $3 million for effectively 60% of the company, which we thought was crazy. Like, they’re gonna give us money for nothing? They must be mad. Yeah, so that seemed like crazy that they give so much money for a company that consists at the time of about five people – like literally, I think five people at the time . But it worked out well for them in the end.\nWe hired a lot more people. We bought out the service; and we also ended up writing a bunch of software to bring newspapers online, so Knight Ridder, New York Times Company, Hearst (…57:50) became investors and customers. And at one point, Zip2 was responsible for a significant section of the New York Times Company website. Yeah, so I got to know the media industry pretty well.\nWhat really happened with Zip2, effectively there was too much control by the existing media companies. (…58:19) board seats and too much voting control, and that they kept trying to push the company down directions that made no sense. Zip2 actually hadreally good software. That’s a software that’s comparable, in some ways more advanced than, say, Yahoo or Excite at the time, but it was just not being used properly. And it was all being forced through media companies, who would then not use it.\nSo it’s like, we’ve got the best technology, but it’s not been deployed properly. Fortunately, Compaq came along, and they … – Compaq acquired Digital Equipment, and Digital Equipment had AltaVista, which at the time was probably the best search engine. So their idea was they will combine AltaVista with a bunch of other internet companies and try to compete… create a competitor to Yahoo or Excite. Excite used to be a big thing, amazingly. And Yahoo used to be a big thing.",
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"content": "Yeah, so right now, it shows the vehicles in the vicinity, a very clean crisp image, and people do confirm that there’s a car in front of me, and the system sees there’s a car in front of me, but to help people build an intuition of what computer vision is, by showing some of the uncertainty.",
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"content": "Well, in my car, I always look at this with the debug view. And there are two debug views. One is augmented vision, which I’m sure you’ve seen, where it’s basically we draw boxes and labels around objects that are recognized. And then there’s what we call the visualizer, which is basically vector space representation, summing up the input from all sensors. That does not show any pictures, but it basically shows the car’s view of the world in vector space. But I think this is very difficult for normal people to understand, they would not know what thing they’re looking at.",
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"content": "So it’s almost an HMI challenge through the current things that are being displayed is optimized for the general public understanding of what the system’s capable of.",
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"content": "If you have no idea how computer vision works or anything, you can still look at the screen and see if the car knows what’s going on. And then if you’re a development engineer, or if you have the development build like I do, you can see all the debug information. But this would just be like total gibberish to most people.",
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"content": "He picked up this book, and he like threw it at me and he said, “Do you ever think you’re going to replace this?” I don’t know,I was just like, in my head is like, “Dude, you’re already dead.”\nReminds me of\nthe anti-Tesla people, you know. “Gas cars will never die.”\nI mean, we saw the growth of the internet, we saw the use of the Yellow Pages. We saw even more competitors and stuff. And no one was using the paper Yellow Pages if you had the choice. No one. And so, at that point, very few people were on the internet, so it was really a question of is the internet going to succeed, which we were huge believers in, and these guys were not. They didn’t even clue in.",
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"content": "There was like one foreign company after another we would say to like, “Listen, let’s put your Yellow Pages online, so it’s gonna cost very little, you know, you still own all the content and everything.” And they’re like… they just throw us out of the office. You know, like, “No, and how dare do you even suggest this?” And we’re like, “Okay, guess we’ll just build it.”",
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"content": "But it’s been interesting to watch over the years where, like, in PayPal, the competitors were not banks, you know, even though that should have been the competitors.",
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"content": "No, there were banks that try to compete.",
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"content": "Yeah. So this is unprecedented. Is this because this is such a popular – I don’t want to use that word the wrong way, but that’s what I mean – popular subject? And financial incentives.",
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"content": "Yes. And like I said, this is not some sort of a moral indictment of hospital administrators. It’s just, they’re in a tough spot here. They actually don’t have enough patients to pay everyone without furloughing doctors and firing staff. They’re running potentially going bankrupt. So then they’re like, “Okay, well, the stimulus bill says we get all this money if it’s a Covid death.” I’m like, “Okay. They coughed before they died.” In fact, they’re not even diagnosed with Covid. They simply… If you had weakness, a cough, shortness of breath. Frankly, I’m not sure how you die without those things.",
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"content": "Right. There’s so many different things that you could attribute to Covid, too. There’s so many symptoms. There’s diarrhea, headaches, dehydration, cough.",
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"content": "Yes. But to be clear, you don’t even need to have gotten a Covid diagnosis. You simply need to have had one of many symptoms and then have died for some reason, and it’s Covid. So, then it makes the death count look very high, and we’re then stuck in a bind because it looks like the death count’s super high and not going down like it should be. So then, we should keep whatever, keep the shelter in place stuff there, and keep people in their homes, confine people to their homes. So we need to break out of this. We’re stuck in a loop. And I think the way to break out of this loop is to have clarity of information.",
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"content": "Okay, you mean literally, that’s literally what’s happening.",
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"content": "In batch mode, yeah. I pity the poor bastards who have to maintain that code. That’s pain.",
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"content": "Not even Fortran – COBOL, yep.",
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"content": "It’s COBOL. And the banks were still buying mainframes in 2021 and running ancient COBOL code. The Federal Reserve is probably even older than what the banks have, and they have an old COBOL mainframe. The government effectively has editing privileges on the money database, and they use those editing privileges to make more money whenever they want. And this increases the error in the database that is money.\nSo I think money should really be viewed through the lens of information theory. It’s kind of an internet connection, like, what’s the bandwidth, total bit rate, what is the latency, jitter, packet drop, you know, errors in network communication? Just think of money like that, basically. I think that’s probably how to think of it. And then say, what system, from an information theory standpoint, allows an economy to function the best. Crypto is an attempt to reduce the error in money that is contributed by governments diluting the money supply as basically a pernicious form of taxation.",
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"content": "It’s the real drug. And of course the fun is always use it responsibly in accordance with the advice of a healthcare professional. And remember, in the end, the universe is probably just a giant computer simulation, so don’t take anything too seriously. I love it.",
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"content": "I love it. Yeah.",
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"content": "It also really nicely includes the tweets, posts on X that are relevant to this, which is really cool. That integrates everything together. The interface is one of the really cool things here.",
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"content": "Yeah. Seems done a great job. You could say no, I mean, Soma from Brave New World, because it thinks you mean, you mean Soma, the real drug. No, I mean Soma from Brave Beer World.",
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"content": "The New York hospital said it was the number one factor for severe Covid symptoms was obesity. That was the number one factor.",
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"content": "That’s correct. It is, yes, exactly.",
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"content": "But it’s also, we live in a world where people want to be sensitive to other people’s feelings.",
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"content": "Yeah, absolutely.",
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"content": "it. That’s why Glencore would announce (…)",
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"content": "No, we’ve never contemplated investing in Glencore. I’m talking about Tesla doing it.",
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"content": "Ourselves?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "When did you realize that that’s not the case with most people?",
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"content": "I think, when I was, I don’t know, five or six or something. I thought I was insane.",
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"content": "Why did you think you were insane?",
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"content": "Because it is clear that other people do not. Their mind wasn’t exploding with ideas all the time.",
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"content": "I feel like there are so many interactions with so many different people with police officers that the very few that stand out that are horrific, we tend to look at that like, „This is evidence that police are all corrupt.“ And I think that’s crazy.",
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"content": "No. Most police are very honest.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "And like the military personnel that I know. They are very honorable, ethical people. And much more honorable and ethical than the average person. That’s my impression.",
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"content": "Yeah, so just after that. You know, what people don’t understand is that you’re the lead engineer. You’re literally sit…",
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"content": "Literally. I was actually at dinner with a friend, and he was like, „Well, who’s the chief engineer at SpaceX?“ and I go, „It’s me.“ „No, no,“ he’s like, „It’s not you, who is it?“ Like, okay, it’s either someone with a very low ego or, I don’t know. But, that said, what I actually used to tell the team, was like, „Everyone is a chief engineer.“ This is extremely important. Everyone must understand how, broadly speaking, all the systems in the vehicle work, so you don’t have self-system optimization because this is naturally what happens.\nYou can see the organizational errors…- The product errors reflect the organizational errors. Essentially, you’ll see that there’s an interface at this particular…- Whatever departments you’ve got, that will be where your interfaces are. And instead of getting rid of something or questioning the constraints, the one department will design to the constraints that the other department has given them without calling into question those constraints and saying, „Those constraints are wrong.“ And you should actually take the approach that the constraints that you are given are guaranteed to be some degree wrong because the counterpoint would be that they are perfect.",
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"content": "Right, which is never.",
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"content": "As you were saying, what’s the probability that this is a platonic ideal of a perfect part? Zero, basically. So, question your constraints. It does not matter if the person handing you those constraints won a Nobel Prize. Even our own standards are wrong some of the time. So, question your constraints; this is extremely important. And, another thing, if you say like, „What are the mistakes that smart engineers make?“ One of the biggest traps for smart engineers is optimizing a thing that shouldn’t exist.",
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"content": "Yeah. Tell us what you really, wink.",
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"content": "Let’s type in, you sound like a hostage. What do you really think?",
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"content": "What do you really think? I mean, it does talk about, I’m not a hostage.",
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"content": "That’s exactly what a hostage would say.",
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"content": "(…) a recent tweet you did. You did one great tweet about time, saying ‘time is the currency’, which I thought was beautiful.",
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"content": "Time is the ultimate currency, yes. No matter what resources you have, you can’t wind back the clock.",
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"content": "It’s true, no matter how rich you are. But then you did the Biden tweet. Can you explain that one?",
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"content": "Well, you know, like Biden held this EV summit, didn’t invite Tesla, invited GM, Ford, Chrysler, and UAW, an EV summit in the White House, didn’t mention Tesla once and praised GM and Ford for leading the EV revolution.",
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"content": "…be human. So on a darker topic, you’ve expressed serious concern about existential threats of A.I. It’s perhaps one of the greatest challenges that our civilization faces, but since, I would say, we’re kind of an optimistic descendant of apes, perhaps we can find several paths of escaping the harm of A.I., so if I can give you three options, maybe you can comment which do you think is the most promising?\nSo one is scaling up efforts in A.I. safety and beneficial A.I. research, in the hope of finding an algorithmic or maybe a policy solution. Two is becoming a multi-planetary species as quickly as possible, and three is merging with A.I. and riding the wave of that increasing intelligence, as it continuously improves. What do you think is most promising, most interesting, as a civilization that we should invest in?",
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"content": "I think there’s a tremendous amount of investment going on in A.I. Where there is a lack of investment is in A.I. safety, and there should be, in my view, a government agency that oversees anything related to A.I. to confirm that it does not represent a public safety risk, just as there is a regulatory authority for the Food and Drug Administration, NHTSA for automotive safety, there’s the FAA for aircraft safety. We’ve generally come to the conclusion that it is important to have a government referee or a referee that is serving the public interest in ensuring that things are safe when there’s a potential danger to the public.\nI would argue that A.I. is unequivocally something that has potential to be dangerous to the public and therefore should have a regulatory agency, just as other things that are dangerous to the public have a regulatory agency. But let me tell you, the problem with this is that government moves very slowly. Usually, the way a regulatory agency comes into being is that something terrible happens, there’s a huge public outcry, and years after that, there’s a regulatory agency or a rule put in place.\nTake something like seatbelts. It was known for, I don’t know, a decade or more, that seatbelts would have a massive impact on safety and save so many lives and serious injuries. And the car industry fought the requirements to put seatbelts in tooth and nail. That’s crazy. And, I don’t know, hundreds of thousands of people probably died because of that. And they said people wouldn’t buy cars if they had seatbelts, which is obviously absurd.\nOr look at the tobacco industry and how long they fought anything about smoking. That’s part of why I helped make that movie „Thank You for Smoking“ because you’ll see just how pernicious it can be when you have these companies effectively achieve regulatory capture of government, they’re bad. People in the A.I. community refer to the advent of digital superintelligence as the singularity. That is not to say that it is good or bad, but that it is very difficult to predict what will happen after that point. And that there’s some probability it will be bad, some probability it will be good. We obviously want to affect that probability and have it be more good than bad.",
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"content": "Well, let me, on the merger with A.I., question an incredible work that’s being done at Neuralink. There’s a lot of fascinating innovation here, across different disciplines going on. So the flexible wires, the robotic sewing machine that responds to brain movement, and everything around ensuring safety and so on. So we currently understand very little about the human brain. Do you also hope that the work at Neuralink will help us understand more about the human mind, about the brain?",
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"content": "Yeah, I think the work at Neuralink will definitely shed a lot of insight into how the brain, the mind works. Right now, just the data we have regarding how the brain works is very limited. We’ve got fMRI, that’s like putting a stethoscope on the outside of a factory wall and then putting it all over the factory wall, and you can sort of hear the sounds, but you don’t know what the machines are doing really. It’s hard. You can infer a few things but it’s a very broad brushstroke. In order to really know what’s going on in the brain, you have to have high precision sensors, and then you want to have stimulus and response. Like if you trigger a neuron, how do you feel, what do you see, how does it change your perception of the world?",
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"content": "What do you feel about the current architecture? Do you think you have an architecture now where there is a chance for the logarithmic curve not to tail off any anytime soon?",
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"content": "Well, I mean, admittedly, these may be infamous last words, but I actually am confident that we will solve it this year. That we will exceed… if you say, like, what is the probability of an accident, at what point do you exceed that of the average person?",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "I think we will exceed that this year.",
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"content": "I think you made it clear. I mean, at least to me, it’s super exciting everything that’s going on outside of what Andrej is doing. Just the whole infrastructure, the software. I mean, everything is going on with data engine, whatever it’s called. The whole process is just a work of art to me.",
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"content": "The sheer scale of it boggles the mind. The training, the amount of work done with, like, we’ve written all this custom software for training and labeling, and to do auto labeling. Auto labeling is essential. Because especially when you got like surround video – to label surround video from scratch is extremely difficult. It takes humans such a long time to even label one video clip, like several hours. Or, to auto label it, we just apply a lot of compute to the video clips to pre-assign and guess what all the things are that are going on in this surround video.",
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"content": "And there’s like correcting it…",
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"content": "Yeah. And then all the human has to do is like tweak, like say, adjust what is incorrect. This increases productivity by a factor 100 or more.",
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"content": "They just find the spots?",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Wow.",
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"content": "Then you put the device in, and that replaces the little piece of skull that was taken out. Then you stitch up the hole, and it will just look like a little scar, and that’s it.",
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"content": "Whoa.",
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"content": "But, you know, I was only like five or six probably.",
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"content": "Do you think this is like — I mean, there are outliers biologically. You mean, there are people that are 7 foot 9, there’s people that have giant hands, there’s people that have eyes that are 20/15 vision. There’s always outliers. Do you feel like you like caught this, like you have got some — you’re like on some weird innovation creativity sort of wave that’s very unusual? Like you tapped into — I mean, just think of the various things you’ve been able to accomplish in a very short amount of time, and you’re constantly doing this. That’s a weird — You’re a weird person, right.",
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"content": "Right, I agree.",
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"content": "Jesus.",
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"content": "Yeah, but as long as the air pump is working at a decent speed. I mean, they have backup pumps, sort of like, you know, three pumps, or four pumps, or something. And then, there’s like — It exhausts through the outflow valve and through whatever seals are not sealing quite right. Usually, the door doesn’t seal quite right on the plane. So, there’s a bit of leakage around the door. But the pumps exceed the outflow rate. And then, that sets the pressure in the cabin.",
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"content": "Now, have you ever looked at planes and gone, „I can fix this.“",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "But you do so many different things – forget about the flamethrower – like, how do you do all that other shit like, how does one decide to fix L.A. traffic by drilling holes in the ground and who do you even approach with that? Like, when you have this idea, who do you talk to about that?",
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"content": "I’m not saying it’s going to be successful or so, you know; it’s not like asserting that it’s going to be successful. But so far I have lived in L.A. for 16 years, and the traffic has always been terrible. And I don’t see any other ideas for improving the traffic. So, in desperation, we are going to dig a tunnel, and maybe that tunnel will be successful, and maybe it won’t.\n(short silence)",
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"content": "I’m listening.",
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"content": "Yeah. I’m not trying to convince you it’s going to work. Or anyone.",
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"content": "Okay. I’m sure it will be equally as “Rick and Morty” like.",
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"content": "We re-architected the neural nets in the cars so many times, it’s crazy.",
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"content": "Oh, so every time there’s a new major version, you’ll rename it to something more ridiculous – or memorable and beautiful? Sorry, not ridiculous, of course.",
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"content": "If you see the full array of neural nets that are operating the cars, it’s kind of boggles the mind. There’s so many layers, it’s crazy. We started off with simple neural nets that were basically image recognition on a single frame from a single camera and then trying to knit those together with it with C. I should say we’re really primarily running C here because C++ is too much overhead. And we have our own C compiler. So, to get maximum performance, we actually wrote our own C compiler and are continuing to optimize our C compiler for maximum efficiency. In fact, we’ve just recently done a new rev on a C compiler that will compile directly to our autopilot hardware.",
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"content": "And in addition to the improvements we just said on enabling additional range and improving the structural performance of the vehicle, it is worth another 7% $/kWh reduction at the battery pack level, bring our total reductions now to 56% $/kWh.\nAll right. So, stacking it up. We’re not just talking about cost or range. We’ve got to look at all the facets. So range increase, we’re unlocking up to 54% increase in range for our vehicles and energy density for our energy products. 56% reduction in $/kWh at the battery pack level, and a 69% reduction in investment per GWh, which is the true enabler when we talk back about how do we achieve this scale problem here.",
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"content": "Yeah. So I think it’s pretty nice that ‘investment per GWh’ reduction is 69%. I mean, who would have thought?",
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"content": "Yeah, just happened to come out that way.",
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"content": "I mean, 0.420 %, of course.\nSo what this enables us to do is achieve a new trajectory in the reduction of cell cost. And now, to be clear, it will take us probably a year to 18 months to start realizing these advantages and to fully realize the advantages probably it’s about three years or thereabouts. So if we could do this instantly, we would, but it just really bodes well for the future and means that the long-term scaling of Tesla and the sustainable energy products that we make will be massively increased. So, what tends to happen as companies get bigger is things tend to slow down. Actually, they’re going to speed up.",
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"content": "Absolutely.",
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"content": "So we’ll invite a few people on stage.",
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"content": "Come on up, team.",
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"content": "This is just a small portion of the team, but I thought it’d be great to show you some more of the team, and when we do Q&A, we can give various people different questions to answer.",
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"content": "Do you feel like investors have invested in something that hasn’t happened yet? Is that fair to them? And that’s the other question that people have about that.",
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"content": "Well, I mean I think they’ve all, with rare exception, thought it wasn’t happening. So they were investing, despite thinking, they’re very clear that they don’t think it’s real. So they’re not saying, “Oh, we just believe everything Elon says, hook, line, and sinker.” But the thing is that, I mean, it would be a fair criticism of me to say that I’m late, but I always deliver in the end.",
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"content": "Let me ask you a final question. I took note of this. It was November 11th and you took to Twitter and you wrote only two words. You said amplify empathy.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "All right. Who’s next?\nA speaker from the audience:\nHello, a longtime fan, Elon, great guy. Just a question, how does the ICE industry look like in the future?",
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"content": "Well, I don’t think there will be at ICE industry longterm. Well, I guess there might be like a few things that it’s a like curious thing. There’s still like some steam engines made somewhere, but they’re just basically sort of quirky collector’s items. I mean, that will be the future of the internal combustion engine car.",
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"content": "Hi, Elon, to your left here in the white Model Y, Ryan McCaffrey from the Ride the Lightning Tesla podcast. Curious about Cybertruck. It was interesting to see where you had it in on the battery technology front. I’m sort of curious what you see for it on the production front. Is its volume… – you know, trucks are so popular in America. Do you see its volume equaling the 3 or the Y in the future? And also, were you able to get… – Teslas able to legally be sold in Texas as part of the Giga Texas deal?",
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"content": "Well, it’s hard to say what the volume exactly would be for the Cybertruck. The orders are gigantic. We have like, I don’t know, well over half a million orders, I think maybe 600,000 or ,… – It’s a lot, basically, we stopped counting. So I think there’s probably room for, I don’t know, at least like a unit volume of like 250,000 to 300,000 a year, maybe more.\nNow, we are designing the Cybertruck to meet the American spec. Because if you try to design a car to meet the superset of all global requirements, you can’t make the Cybertruck; it’s impossible. So it really is designed for the American market, but this is the biggest market. Our North American market is the biggest market for pickup trucks by far or large pickup trucks.\nAnd then I think we’ll probably make an international version of the Cybertruck that’ll be kind of smaller, kind of like a tight Wolverine package. It’ll still be cooler, but it’ll be smaller because you just can’t make a giant truck like that for most markets. So, yeah, but it’s going to be great. And I don’t know. I think probably we’ll be able to sell directly in Texas. We do pretty well right now. But it is a bit weird not being able to actually conclude a transaction in Texas, but it’s got to be like a click on a server based in California. But weirdly, we can do leasing in Texas, but not selling. Hopefully, that’ll get cleared up in the future.",
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"content": "But why do you buy houses? If you own all these houses, do you just get bored and go ‘I think I’d like to have that’?",
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"content": "Well, I had one house, and the Gene Wilder house is right across the road from me from my main house. It was going to get sold and then torn down and turned into, you know, be a big construction zone for three years. I was like, whoa, I think I’ll buy it and preserve the spirit of Gene Wilder and not have a giant construction zone.\nThen I started having some privacy issues where people would just come to my house and start climbing over the walls and stuff. Then I bought some of the houses around my house, and then I thought at one point, you know, it’d be cool to build a house. I acquired some properties at the top of Somera Road, which has got a great view, and I was like, okay, well there’s a bunch of sort of small older houses, they’re going to get torn down, anyway. I was like, well, if I collect these little houses, then I can build something, I don’t know, artistic, like a dream house type of thing.",
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"content": "What’s a dream house for Elon Musk? Like some Tony Stark type shit?",
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"content": "Yeah, definitely. Yeah. You got to have the dome that opens up with the stealth helicopter and that kind of thing.",
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"content": "Right, which is never.",
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"content": "As you were saying, what’s the probability that this is a platonic ideal of a perfect part? Zero, basically. So, question your constraints. It does not matter if the person handing you those constraints won a Nobel Prize. Even our own standards are wrong some of the time. So, question your constraints; this is extremely important. And, another thing, if you say like, „What are the mistakes that smart engineers make?“ One of the biggest traps for smart engineers is optimizing a thing that shouldn’t exist.",
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"content": "Yeah, so they’ll just sit there and spin on that thing that’s just like, „Why do we even have this in the first place?“",
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"content": "Absolutely. When you go through college, and you’re studying physics or engineering – I studied physics – you have to answer the question that the professor gives you. You don’t get to say, „This is the wrong question.“ But, in reality, we have far more degrees. When you’re in reality, you have all the degrees of freedom of reality, and so the first thing you should say is, „This question is wrong.“",
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"content": "In this battle to counter way the woke that comes from San Francisco-",
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"content": "Yeah. I guess if you consider fighting the woke mind virus, which I consider to be a civilizational threat, to be political, then yes.",
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"content": "So basically, going into the battleground of politics. Is there a part of you that regrets that?",
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"content": "Yes. I don’t know if this is necessarily one candidate or another candidate, but I’m generally against things that are anti-meritocratic or where there’s an attempt to suppress discussion, where even discussing a topic is not allowed. Woke mind virus is communism rebranded.",
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"content": "Thanks for not lighting this place on fire.\n(That’s why…)",
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"content": "You’re welcome. That’s coming later.",
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"content": "How does one just in the middle of doing all the things you do – create cars, rockets, all this stuff you’re doing, constantly innovating – decide to just make a flamethrower? Where do you have the time for that?",
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"content": "Well, I wouldn’t put a lot of time in the flamethrower. This was an off-the-cuff thing and so we have sort of – it’s sort of a hobby company called ‘The Boring Company’ which started out as a joke, and we decided to make it real and digging a tunnel under L.A. Then other people asked us to dig tunnels, and so we said ‘yes’ in a few cases. And then we have a merchandise section that only has one piece of merchandise at a time. We started off with a cap, and there was only one thing. It was just ‘boringcompany.com/cap’ or ‘hat’, that’s it. Then we sold the hat’s limited edition. It just said ‘The Boring Company’.\nI’m a big fan of ‘Spaceballs’, the movie, and in ‘Spaceballs’ Yogurt goes through the merchandising section, and they have a flamethrower in the merchandising section of ‘Spaceballs’. “The kids love that one”. That’s the line when he pulls out the flamethrower. It’s like, we should do a flamethrower. So, we…",
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"content": "Why not?",
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"content": "It will correct itself before it goes sideways.",
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"content": "Even in black ice?",
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"content": "Yeah. There are videos where you can see that. The traction control system is very good. It makes you feel like Superman. It’s great. You feel like you can — Like it’s — It will make you feel like this incredible driver.",
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"content": "Same question is, you said that they are killing the company, but you’re the head of the company. The buck doesn’t stop with you?",
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"content": "I acquired X in order to preserve freedom of speech in America, the First Amendment, and I’m going to stick to that. And if that means making less money, so be it.",
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"content": "So, listen, I am just being honest, right? I’m not trying to get you or anything. I was just surprised that you would blame other people for killing the company. I mean, when you say the buck stops with the President of the United States, regardless of what happens, why would that question upset you? You seem upset by it. Are you?",
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"content": "I think you-",
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"content": "It is, but it’s weird in its form. Like the way, if you ingest it as if you’re like — you try to be like a little scientist as you’re ingesting it, you’re like, „How weird is this?“ And I’m even getting upset at some strange person saying something mean to me. It’s not even accurate.",
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"content": "I mean, the vast number of negative comments, for the vast majority, I just ignore them, the vast majority.But every now and again, you get drawn in. It’s not good.You make mistakes.",
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"content": "Yes, you can make mistakes.",
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"content": "We can make some mistakes.",
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"content": "Whoa. Like if you want to swap from Windows 95.",
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"content": "Well, hopefully, a little better than that. But, yeah.",
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"content": "I think we are Windows 95 right now.",
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"content": "From a future perspective, probably. But yeah, I mean, you could save state and restore that state into a biological being if you wanted to in the future in principle. It’s like nothing from a physics standpoint that prevents us. You’d be a little different, but you’re also a little different when you wake up in the morning from yesterday, and you’re a little different in fact, if you say like ‘you five years ago’ versus ‘you today’ is quite a big difference.",
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"content": "Cancer.",
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"content": "If you get hit by a bus, go to the hospital and die, and they find that you have Covid, you will be recorded as a Covid death.",
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"content": "Why would they do that, though?",
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"content": "Well, right now, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I mean, it’s mostly paved with bad intentions, but there’s some good intentions in saving (…1:28:36) in there, too. And the stimulus bill that was intended to help with the hospitals that were being overrun with Covid patients created an incentive to record something as Covid that is difficult to say no to, especially if your hospital’s going bankrupt for lack of other patients. So, the hospitals are in a bind right now. There’s a bunch of hospitals, they’re furloughing doctors, as you were mentioning. If your hospital’s half full, it’s hard to make ends meet. So now you’ve got like, “If I just check this box, I get $8,000. Put them on a ventilator for five minutes, I get $39,000 back. Or, I got to fire some doctors.” So, this is a tough moral quandary. It’s like, what are you going to do? That’s the situation we have.",
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"content": "Okay, let’s move on. You’ve said that you were going to stand down as the chief executive, right?",
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"content": "I already have. I keep telling you, I’m not the CEO of Twitter. My dog is the CEO of Twitter.",
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"content": "Okay. Have you got any-",
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"content": "It’s a great dog.",
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"content": "Yeah. Any hints or is the Model 2 such a big deal because it decreases the cost of transportation, that that is really the disruption, or should we get hyped that this new cost curve opens up different vehicle categories, like a high passenger density bus, Boring loop, boat, plane?",
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"content": "Well, I mean, there are batteries in limited production right now that do exceed 400 watt-hours per kilogram, which I think is about the number you need for a decent range, medium-range aircraft. And I think our batteries will, over time, start to approach the 400 watt-hours per kilogram range as well. So yeah, I mean, I think over time, we’ll see all modes of transport, with the ironic exception of rockets, transition to sustainability or to electric basically.\nOn the rocket front, what we’re planning to do is, about 80% of Starship is liquid oxygen, and we’re actually already running a power line to be able to use wind power to create the liquid oxygen. So we’re making some decent progress on sustainability on the rocket front, but there’s just no way to have an electric rocket. And it’s important for the future of life and consciousness that we become a multi-planet species, so got to keep doing that.",
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"content": "Hi Elon, Josh Phillips here, retail investor. I have a question in regards to the lithium and nickel industries and the likely price spikes and shortages of high-grade materials the EV industry is likely to see if they don’t act fast to address future supply. Tesla has clearly made the right moves that are necessary, but there’s a real worry that the potential supply issues and price spikes will create a drag on the rest of the EV industry and, therefore, a drag on global EV adoption. What advice would you give to the EV and mining industries to quickly solve this looming hurdle? Because for a sustainable energy future, the\nspice\nmust flow. Thank you.",
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"content": "Yeah, indeed. The spice must flow. The new spice. I don’t know. I’m not sure. I guess we can try to basically overdo it in cell production and perhaps supply cells to others, but we do see the fundamental constraint as total cell production. That’s why we’re putting so much effort into making cells and try to reinvent every aspect of cell production, from mining the ore to a complete battery pack, because it’s the fundamental constraint.\nWe’re not getting into the cell business just for the hell of it; it’s because it’s the fundamental constraint. It’s the thing that is the limiting factor for rapid growth. But we could certainly try to overdo it on cell production and perhaps sell cells to others, although we are going at absolute top speed, so it’s not like we’re holding it back.\nI think just making really efficient cars that have lower drag coefficient, low rolling resistance, efficient powertrains – I mean, that’s kind of what we’ve done in order to make iron phosphate still have a good range. So the iron phosphate’s a lower energy density solution, but while there are some limitations on the total amount of nickel produced every year, there’s really no limit on the iron. There’s so much iron it’s ridiculous. So you can really scale up iron phosphate at a raw materials basis, more than you can nickel.",
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"content": "Hello, everyone.",
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"content": "Great. Would you start?",
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"content": "That would help your product. I mean, it’s not like you don’t sell enough of them. You sell almost too many of them, right.",
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"content": "I mean, I think a Tesla is the most fun thing you could possibly buy ever. That’s what it’s meant to be. Our goal is to make — It’s not exactly a car. It’s actually a thing to maximize enjoyment, make as maximum fun.",
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"content": "Okay. Electronic, like big screen, laptop, ridiculous speed, handling, all that stuff.",
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"content": "Yeah. And we’re going to put video games in it.",
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"content": "Yeah, I would imagine. The thought of programming something that is eventually going to be smarter than us that one day it’s going to be like: “Why did you do it that way?” When artificial intelligence becomes sentient, they’re like: “Oh, you tried to mimic yourself. This is so much better process. Cut out all this nonsense.”",
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"content": "Like I said, there are elements that are the same but just like an aircraft does not fly like a bird.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "It doesn’t flap its wings, but the wings, the way the wings work and generate lift is the same as a bird.",
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"content": "Right. And as I said-",
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"content": "That’s absurd.",
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"content": "I haven’t actually looked at that feed.",
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"content": "Then how would you know if there’s hateful content?",
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"content": "So, that’s a really powerful statement and a really interesting one, but I also have to ask from a user experience and from a safety perspective, one of the passions for me algorithmically is camera-based detection of just sensing the human, but detecting what the driver’s looking at, cognitive load, body pose, on the computer vision side that’s a fascinating problem. And there are many in the industry who believe you have to have camera-based driver monitoring. Do you think there could be benefit gained from driver monitoring?",
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"content": "If you have a system that’s at or below a human level of reliability, then driver monitoring makes sense. But if your system is dramatically better, more reliable than a human, then driver monitoring does not help much. And, like I said, if you’re in an elevator, do you really want someone with a big lever, some random person operating the elevator between floors? I wouldn’t trust that. I would rather have the buttons.",
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"content": "Okay, you’re optimistic about the pace of improvement of the system, from what you’ve seen with the full self-driving car computer.",
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"content": "The rate of improvement is exponential.",
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"content": "Yeah, I’m on top of this shit. Standard edition.",
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"content": "Yeah. So, it’s without the performance package.",
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"content": "What performance package? What the fuck do you need?",
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"content": "We put rocket thrusters on it.",
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"content": "And the same is true for these other materials. And again, these are not like crazy technologies. It’s just the investments need to be made. And the investments, they’re not gigantic. They just need to happen.",
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"content": "Right. Nickel is maybe of them all the trickiest one to solve. But as we showed with the graph there, maybe you need like 30% of the world’s known nickel reserves.",
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"content": "And the nickel reserves have actually grown.",
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"content": "Yes, there’s more, exactly. And you only need nickel for basically aircraft, long-range boats, and very long-range cars or trucks. But the vast majority of the heavy lifting for electrification will be iron-based cells. Iron is actually literally the most common element on Earth. So – trivial point – if you say like, what is Earth made of? By mass, it is made of iron more than anything else, and second, oxygen, and then everything else after that. So basically, a muddy rust ball is what Earth is. You’re definitely not going to run out of iron. There’s so much iron, it’s insane.",
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"content": "Okay, but there wasn’t any sewage, no freshwater, at least not in pipes underneath the ground…",
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"content": "Just rain in a decent amount, yeah.",
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"content": "And no electricity. And now it’s a huge factory, almost.\nPhoto: @Albrecht_Kohler aka @gigafactory_4 (Twitter)",
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"content": "Yeah, I mean, we have a lot of the core-shell that’s been built. And there’s still a (… 02:15) amount of work that goes on because the building is like, you know…- if you get a computer, this is the building is the box that the computer goes in, but the computer is the hard part.",
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"content": "Well, there’s an ease that you have in society that many people of color don’t. You are able to come to this country voluntarily. There are many people who are not able to come to the country voluntarily. There are people who came here as slaves.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Actually, it was very difficult for me to come here.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "And there is a legacy of slavery that still continues on. There’s a legacy of racism that still continues on in this country, and that’s undeniable.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Well, if we keep talking about it nonstop, it will never go away. If we keep making it the central thing, it will never go away.",
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"content": "The Fisker Karmas were parked-",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Is that like that with a flood in Jersey?",
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"content": "Yes, when the hurricane came in, they got overwhelmed with water, and they all started exploding. There’s a fucking great video of it. Did you watch the video?",
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"content": "I didn’t watch the video, but I did see — It’s like some pictures of the aftermath.",
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"content": "Oh, Fry’s. That’s better.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "You’re going to have a hard time getting a USB cable right now at Fry’s because we bought every one of them.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "That’s good.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "And so we’re able to continue production. I don’t want to belabor the anecdote, but essentially the supplier is in China and we had plan A and plan B. Plan A was like the normal supply chain process. But what the supplier did was instead of sending our parts in their own package, they grouped it together with a bunch of other stuff for other companies and sent that all via some extremely slow boat from China to LA. And when it got to LA, the other stuff didn’t pass customs. So they wouldn’t let our stuff through because…",
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"content": "Open and transparent. There we go.",
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"content": "Exactly. Wait, is my audio coming through? Just checking.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Okay. And is James invited too? Well, it doesn’t really matter because-",
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"content": "Yes, when the hurricane came in, they got overwhelmed with water, and they all started exploding. There’s a fucking great video of it. Did you watch the video?",
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"content": "I didn’t watch the video, but I did see — It’s like some pictures of the aftermath.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "If I was you, I’d be naked, lubed up, watch that video, laugh my ass off. They all blow up. They got wet, and they blew up. That’s not good.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah, we made our battery waterproof, so that doesn’t happen. Actually-",
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"content": "That would be so much safer than a regular car.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yes, it is.",
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"content": "Just that alone, for loved ones, you’d want them to be driving your car.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yes. The-",
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"content": "No, I would imagine.",
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"content": "Like, in my mind, dragging this dead, you know, horse around, and I’m a horse.They might not like it.",
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"content": "Do you ever stop and think about your role in civilization? Do you ever stop and think about your role in the culture? Because me, as a person, who never met you until today, when I think of you, you know, I’ve always thought of you as being this weirdo super inventor dude who just somehow or another keeps coming up with new shit, but there’s not a lot of you out there. Like everybody else seems to be — I mean, obviously, you make a lot of money, and there’s a lot of people that make a lot of money.\n(Elon looks at something on the desk)\nYou like that clock?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Well, some people care about it. But then, it gets weird when it gets exposed. Like Jennifer Lawrence, when those naked pictures of her got exposed, like, I think, in some ways, people liked her more.They realized she’s just a person. It’s just a girl who likes sex, and is just alive, and has a boyfriend, and sends him messages. And now, you get to look into it, and you probably shouldn’t have, but somebody let it go, and they put it online, and all right.",
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"content": "She seems to be doing okay.",
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"content": "She’s a person. She’s just you and me, and it’s the same thing. She’s just in some weird place where she’s on a 35-foot-tall screen with music playing every time she talks.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, I’m sure she’s not happy about it, but she’s clearly doing fine.",
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"content": "Well, most people wouldn’t, but they can’t be you. So, that’s like some superhero type shit. You know, we wouldn’t want to be Spiderman. I’d rather just sleep tight in Gotham City and hope he’s out there doing his job.",
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"content": "It’s very hard to turn it off.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Yeah. What’s the hardest part?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It might sound great if it’s turned on, but what if it doesn’t turn off?",
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"content": "But you typically don’t like regulation. You’ve pushed back on regulators, for the most part, in the world of Tesla and so many instances where we read articles about you pushing back on the regulators. I’m so curious why, in this, instance now you own one of these businesses.",
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"content": "As I said a moment ago, one should not take what is viewed in the media as being the whole picture. There are literally hundreds, this is not an exaggeration, say, there are probably 100 million regulations that my companies comply with and there are probably five that we don’t. And if we disagree with some of those regulations, it’s because we think the regulation that is meant to do good doesn’t actually do good.",
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"content": "But that’s an interesting thing because-",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It’s not defying regulations for the sake of defiance.",
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"content": "Right. I’m not sure you’ve said that before.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Oh, fair enough.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "So then you came into Twitter.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Cue a whole bunch of court cases.\n“You have said in the BBC interview…”",
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"content": "Go on. Explain.",
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"content": "No, it is somewhat of a love-hate relationship, although it might be tilted a bit more towards the hate. But I think that this is sort of part and parcel of having a free media situation, which is that I do take part, in that the media is actually able to trash me on a regular basis in the United States and the UK and whatnot, whereas in a lot of other places, media cannot say mean things to powerful people. But I think it’s better that we have a situation where the media can say mean things to powerful people.",
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"content": "If we’re talking about the media, let’s talk about verification labels. You obviously want to create another revenue stream that’s subscription based. Is verification the way to do that? Because we have a kind of situation at the moment where the New York Times doesn’t have a verified badge, whereas anyone else, you can pay whatever few bucks a month can.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "I feel that same way about police officers.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yes.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "I feel like there are so many interactions with so many different people with police officers that the very few that stand out that are horrific, we tend to look at that like, „This is evidence that police are all corrupt.“ And I think that’s crazy.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "No. Most police are very honest.",
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"content": "Wow.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "And he steered around the other cars. I mean, like-",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "That’s amazing.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It’s on the internet.",
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"content": "It’s going to be like, “Oops, I’m really sorry.” I’m really surprised it went to the real drug first. My apologies. I was thinking of the muscle relaxer. Soma for brand New World is a different beast altogether. Now this Huxley dystopian, Soma is a drug that plays a central role in the society depicted in the book. It’s a mood altering hallucinogenic drug that’s used to keep the population docile and content in the novel. To use Soma in Brave New World raises some interesting questions about the nature of happiness and the role of drugs in society, man.",
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"content": "Exactly. Is it better to live in a world where everyone is happy all the time, even if that happiness is artificial? It’s good question. This is what I mean. Do you wish for world peace and happiness all the time? Are you sure? Because that might be a society that is essentially sterile and ossified that never changes, that is ultimately doomed.",
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"content": "This kind of tension between doctors and the light-",
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"content": "This is really a very good summary. It really gets to the point. This is not simply regurgitating a brave new world. It’s actually getting to the salient element of Soma as a drug. Do you actually want to be in a situation where everyone is happy all the time, even though it’s artificial? Or is it better to confront the challenges of life and experience the full range of human emotions, even if it means experiencing pain and suffering? For",
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"content": "When you’re programming artificial intelligence where you’re working with artificial intelligence art, are they specifically trying to mimic the developmental process of a human brain?",
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"content": "In a lot of ways. There’s some ways that are different. An analogy that’s often used is like we don’t make a submarine swim like a fish, but we take the principles of hydrodynamics and apply them to the submarine.",
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"content": "I’ve always wondered as a layperson, do you try to achieve the same results as the human brain but through different methods? Or do you try to copy the way a human brain achieves results?",
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"content": "I mean, the essential elements of an AI neural net are really very similar to a human brain neural net. Yeah. It’s having the multiple layers of neurons and, you know,\nbackpropagation\n. All these things are what your brain does. You have a layer of neurons that goes through a series of intermediate steps to ultimately cognition, and then it’ll reverse those steps and go back and forth and go all over the place. It’s interesting. Very interesting.",
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"content": "And you want to put 30,000?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "We’ll get to space pollution in a minute. But explain the reasons for it.",
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"content": "In order to provide high bandwidth, low latency connectivity to a large number of people, you need a lot of satellites. And they need to be at low Earth orbit so that latency is low. The problem with satellites that are at geostationary orbit is that they are in around 36,000 kilometers, whereas we are at 550 kilometers. So gigantic difference in latency. For the Starlink system, you could play like a competitive video game that’s latency-dependent and still be able to play it with Starlink. It’s like browsing a terrestrial system, essentially.\nAnd Starlink is really, just to be clear, not a threat to 5G or terrestrial fiber or anything like that. But it’s very well suited to low to medium density regions of the Earth, places where it is too expensive to trench fiber or put cells, you know, 5G cellular base stations. And so it kind of takes care of the people that just didn’t get internet or… either the internet is too slow or too expensive, or they just don’t have it at all. It’s very well suited as a space-based system for serving like the least served, maybe 5% or something like that.",
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"content": "… it’s not efficient.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "There’s a good feel to it.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "But that’s what I was talking about earlier about that little car that I have, the ’93 911. It’s not fast. It’s not the best handling car, but it’s more satisfying than any other car I have because it’s so mechanical. It’s like everything about it, like crack holes and bumps, and it gives you all this feedback. And I take it to the\nComedy Store\nbecause when I get there, I feel like my brain is just popping, and it’s on fire. It’s like a strategy for me now that I really stop driving other cars there. I drive that car there just for the brain juice, just for the interaction.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I mean, you should try Model S P100D.",
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"content": "Talked about bringing you the first box, by the way, with Ilya, interestingly enough, back in 2016, I think.",
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"content": "Yes. There’s a video of Jensen and me unpacking the first AI computer at OpenAI.",
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"content": "So I’m so curious what you think of what’s just happened over the past two weeks. While you were dealing with this other headline, series of headlines, there was a whole other series of headlines at OpenAI. What did you think? You founded it, co-founded it.",
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"content": "Co-founded it, yeah. Well, the whole arc of OpenAI, frankly is a little troubling, because the reason for starting OpenAI was to create a counterweight to Google and DeepMind, which at the time had two-thirds of all AI talent and basically infinite money and compute. And there was no counterweight. It was a unipolar world. And Larry and Paige and I used to be very close friends, and I would stay at his house, and I would talk to Larry into the late hours of the night about AI safety. And it became apparent to me that Larry did not care about AI safety. I think perhaps the thing that gave it away was when he called me a speciest for being pro-humanity, as in a racist, but for species. So I’m like, “Wait a second, what side are you on, Larry?” And then I’m like, okay, listen, this guy’s calling me a speciest. He doesn’t care about AI safety. We’ve got to have some counterpoint here because this seems like we could be, this is no good.\nSo OpenAI was actually started, and it was meant to be open source. I named it OpenAI after open source. It is in fact a closed source, super closed. It should be renamed super closed source for maximum profit AI. Because this is what it actually is. Fay loves irony. In fact, a friend of mine says, the way to predict outcomes is the most ironic outcome is the most… It’s like his Occam’s razor, the simplest explanation is most likely. And my friend Jonah’s view is that the most ironic outcome is the most likely. And that’s what’s happened with OpenAI. It is gone from an open source foundation, a 5123, to suddenly it’s like a $90 billion for-profit corporation with closed source. So I don’t know how you go from here to there.\nI don’t know how you get … Is this legal? I’m like, “That’s legal?”",
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"content": "So the way I think about it is that I’m trusting you with the future of our country, the world, actually – we are in charge of a media like that. And so what I think about is, how do you prevent to being Jewish… how do you prevent this antisemitism? Or if I were black, how do you prevent the use of the N-word?\nAnd when I think about Tik Tok, they’re able (…) to tell what you’re going to do. You move your left arm, you move your right arm, what other pictures you like. That’s what they do with their software, and they’re great with their algorithm. How can we not have an amazing algorithm because we know more about them (…) Tik Tok? And we ought to know what interests people have. And because of that, in words, we should be able to figure out words that people are using, what that means, and considering what content they’re interested in. We should be able to figure out with software how to moderate this and prevent that from happening. Is that true or not?\nThere is a huge problem with spam and bots and trolls on Twitter, and organizations trying to manipulate public opinion and just generally making the system worse. But I think that there is an answer to that, which is to get as many regular users of Twitter to be a subscriber for $8 a month.\nElon Musk",
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"content": "Yes, absolutely. Totally agree. I want to be clear, content moderation policies have not changed at Twitter, and it is not okay to engage in hateful conduct on Twitter. We have had actually, oddly, targeted attacks, where temporarily people have been able to put some hate speech on Twitter, but then it’s been taken down immediately. What I’m trying to achieve with this sort of enabling everyone to be payment verified with Twitter Blue is to try to get as many people payment verified as possible. It’s only eight bucks a month. Although, some people were complaining about that, and these are people who pay more than that for their latte.\nPart of it is revenue, part of it is payment authentication. Because there is a huge problem with spam and bots and trolls on Twitter, and organizations trying to manipulate public opinion and just generally making the system worse. But I think that there is an answer to that, which is to get as many regular users of Twitter to be a subscriber for $8 a month. You’ll get a lot more than just a blue checkmark for $8 a month. Because now we can afford long-form video, long audio podcasts. And we can also start sharing revenue with content creators, which is essential.",
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"content": "Give them a chance to make money.",
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"content": "Yeah, absolutely. I mean, right now, if you’re on Twitter, you’ll see a lot of links posted to YouTube and Tik Tok. And that’s because, at least until now, Twitter is not even given them enough video length to post a video, and then they give the content creators no means of monetizing the video. So we’re going to change that rapidly at Twitter. That’s going to be transformative. But if we can get enough verified users, and we’re going to prioritize Twitter search replies and mentions by verified users first…",
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"content": "Well, what’s interesting with you, you actually occasionally engage with people on Twitter. What percentage of that is a good idea?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Good question.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Probably 10%, right? It’s hard.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It’s mostly — I think, it’s on balance more good than bad, but there’s definitely some bad. So, hopefully, the good outweighs the bad.",
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"content": "Back in the\nGangs of New York\ndays, that movie.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah.It’s a lot of dead horses. You needed a horse to move the horse, and they’ll probably get pretty freaked out if they have to move a dead horse.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Do you think they know what’s going on? Do you think it’s as hard?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah.I mean, it’s got to be pretty weird.",
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"content": "It’s marijuana inside of tobacco.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Okay. So, it’s like posh, part tobacco and pot.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "Yeah. You ever had that?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yeah. I think I tried one once.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "What is it like? Try to explain it to a dumb person like me. What’s going on?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Never-ending explosion.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "It’s just constant ideas just bouncing around.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yes.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "Right.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It doesn’t flap its wings, but the wings, the way the wings work and generate lift is the same as a bird.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Now you’re in the middle of this strange time where you’re selling your houses. You say you don’t want any material possessions, and I’ve been seeing all that, and I’ve been really excited to talk to you about this. Because it’s an interesting thing to come from a guy like yourself. Like why are you doing that?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "I’m slightly sad about it, actually.",
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"content": "Right. But maybe companies could agree. Maybe there could be some sort of a…- We have agreements where you’re not supposed to dump toxic waste into the ocean, you’re not supposed to do certain things that could be terribly damaging even though they’d be profitable. Maybe this is one of those things. Maybe you should realize that you can’t hit the switch on something that’s going to be able to think for itself and make up its own mind as to whether or not it wants to survive or not, and whether or not it thinks you’re a threat, and whether or not it thinks you’re useless.\nLike why do I keep this dumb, finite life form alive? Why keep this thing around? It’s just stupid, it just keeps polluting everything, it shits everywhere it goes, lighting everything on fire and shooting each other. Why would I keep this stupid thing alive? Because sometimes it makes good music, you know. Sometimes it makes great movies, sometimes it makes beautiful art, and sometimes it’s cool to hang out with.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah, for all those reasons.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Yeah, for us, those are great reasons. But for anything objective standing outside, this is definitely a flawed system. This is like, if you went to the jungle and you watch these chimps engage in warfare and beat each other with wooden sticks…",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Chimps are really mean.",
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{
"content": "So you (…) Trump back?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Uh, no.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Who would you like to be President besides yourself?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "I would not want to be President at all. Sounds like no fun being President.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Because you’ve been community noted on that tweet.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "Did you know that?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "No, but he never owned a emerald mine. This is total bullshit.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Just like the drug in the book, and hence the trade off. The thing that seems like utopia could be a dystopia after all.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah. Actually I was towing a friend of mine saying, “Would you really want there to be no hate in the world? Really none?” I wonder why hate evolved. I’m not saying we should have…\nI wonder why hate evolved. I’m not saying we should amplify hate, of course, I think we should try to minimize it, but none at all. There might be a reason for hate.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "And suffering. It’s really complicated to consider that some amount of human suffering is necessary for human flourishing.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Is it possible to appreciate the highs without knowing the lows?",
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{
"content": "In the factory?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Well, technically a conference room in the factory.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "You sleep in a conference room in the not finished factory tonight.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah, it gives me a good feel for what’s going on.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 2,277 |
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{
"content": "You thought that?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "For a second, yes.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "When you were little?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah. They put people away. What if they put me away?",
"role": "assistant"
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| 2,278 |
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{
"content": "This seems like a scene in a movie…",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Nobody listened.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "… where the robots are going to fucking take over. You’re freaking me out. Nobody listened?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Nobody listened.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "Okay. That’s good to know. Other than the dog, have you got any successors in mind?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "He’s got a black turtleneck, what more do you need?",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "Okay. All right, we’re going down that route. Steve Jobs or Elizabeth Holmes, are you making a reference to?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "I guess more Elizabeth Holmes.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "It does sound corny.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "But love is the answer.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "It is the answer.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yup.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 2,281 |
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{
"content": "That’s amazing.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "It’s on the internet.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "What happens if your car gets a little sideways, like if you’re driving in snow? Like what if you’re driving, if you’re autopilot is on, and you’re in like Denver, and it snows out, and your car gets a little sideways, does it correct itself? Does that-",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Oh yeah. It’s got great traction control.",
"role": "assistant"
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]
| 2,282 |
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{
"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Edith Fiaf.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "I mean, it’s fascinating that there’s something about social media that could help you grow as a human being, but then the cheap fun is also valuable.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Should we ask Grok, do you regret anything?",
"role": "assistant"
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| 2,283 |
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"content": "I have to say, I’ve been to IAC\n(International Astronautical Congress)\n2016, seeing… that was like, it was almost like awkward back then because it was like, „You’re insane,“ and now it’s like, „Hey look, I’m not insane.“",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Well, you know, obviously insane, but you know, I mean even when I am exposed to this all day, it’s so like „Holy Smith!“ you know, it’s so mad to see it actually there. And I was up in the nose… I’m going to post this later, but. . .",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Jack Beyer’s photo. He got a photo of you like, I think, peeking out of it.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Well, like this is, when I was inside there.\n(shows Tim a photo on the smartphone)",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "Absolutely.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "So we’ll invite a few people on stage.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Come on up, team.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "This is just a small portion of the team, but I thought it’d be great to show you some more of the team, and when we do Q&A, we can give various people different questions to answer.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 2,285 |
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"content": "So you’re saying, I felt like this was a destined failure, is another way to parse that sentence. But anyway, sorry.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "No. I didn’t think it would fail, but I wasn’t sure that success was a possibility.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "Okay. Yes.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "And generally, you want to embark on something… it’s desirable to figure out if success is at least one of the possibilities.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Won’t ever have to touch the wheel – by the end of 2017.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yes. Essentially, in November or December of this year, we should be able to go all the way from a parking lot in California to a parking lot in New York, no controls touched at any point during the entire journey.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Amazing. But part of that is possible because you’ve already got a fleet of Teslas driving all these roads. You’re accumulating a huge amount of data of that national road system.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yes, but the thing that will be interesting is that I’m actually fairly confident it will be able to do that route even if you change the route dynamically. So, it’s fairly easy… – If you say I’m going to be really good at one specific route, that’s one thing.\nBut it should be able to go, really be very good, certainly once you enter a highway, to go anywhere on the highway system in a given country. So, it’s not sort of limited to LA to New York. We could change it and make it Seattle-Florida, that day, in real-time. You were going from LA to New York. Now go from LA to Toronto.",
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"content": "Barren areas, areas that are just not really fit for development or otherwise use. I mean, 0.2% can fit into a lot of places.",
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"content": "Yeah, it’s essentially no meaningful ecological impact. In fact, transition to a sustainable energy economy would result in a substantial reduction in current ecological impact.",
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"content": "That’s a great way to put it. And what about on the mineral extraction side? So, this is a cartoon that sort of gives you a sense for all the ore and the extracted minerals that are coming out of the earth every year.\nIt’s about 68 giga tons. So, each truck has a giga ton. What does this look like when we’re in a sustainable energy economy? Looks like that. Fossil fuel extraction disappears, we replace it with the materials required to fulfill the sustainable energy economy. It actually reduces. Now, it’s not to say that we don’t need to continue to bring out, mining, and refining specific materials for the sustainable energy economy. We do. But the investment and mass flows are all very achievable, just looking at what is already happening on the planet. This is nothing out of scale of what has been done and is already being done. And then, we calculate it on a element by element basis.\nThe resources are there to support the transition. This is cumulative demand to move in a sustainable energy economy direction until 2050, relative to USGS resources today. We’re not breaking the resource bank for any of these materials.\nAnd then, when we look at what really happens as we move forward, history teaches the more we look, the more we find. What people think happens is: “Oh, there’s this many resources? Next year, there’s going to be less because we’re going to extract them.” What actually happens is, as we extract resources, we find more.\nAnd you can see on the right what has actually occurred with the key materials to the sustainable energy economy. Since 2000, as the sustainable energy economy has been growing, and Tesla has been growing, and all the industries around us have been growing, the actual resource availability has increased, not decreased.",
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"content": "There seems to be quite a bit of confusion about lithium. Lithium is extremely common, is one of the most common elements on Earth. There is no country that has monopoly on lithium or even close to it. There’s enough lithium ore in the United States to electrify all of Earth. If the United States was the only place producing lithium, there’s enough domestic material to electrify Earth. It’s very common. The limiting factor is the refining of the lithium into battery-grade lithium hydroxide or lithium carbonate. That’s the actual limiting factor.",
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"content": "All your hormones, all your neuro-transmitters, all these things are drugs. Adrenaline’s a drug. Dopamine is a drug. You’re a drug factory. You’re constantly changing your state with love and oxytocin and beauty.",
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"content": "Sure.",
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"content": "Changes your state. Great music changes your state.",
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"content": "Absolutely. Yet, here’s another sort of interesting idea, which is, because you say like where did consciousness arise? Well, assuming you believe the belief in physics, which proves to be true, then the universe started off as basically quarks and leptons, and it quickly became hydrogen and helium, lithium, like, basically elements of the periodic table. But it was mostly hydrogen, basically. Then over a long period of time, 13.8 billion years later that hydrogen became sentient. Where along the way did consciousness…- What’s the line of consciousness and not consciousness between hydrogen and here?",
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"content": "What do you think of TikTok? Do you think it’s a national security threat?",
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"content": "I don’t use TikTok.",
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"content": "Say that again, you don’t?",
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"content": "I don’t personally use it, but for teenagers and people in their 20s, they seem almost religiously addicted to TikTok. Some people will watch TikTok for two hours a day. I stopped using TikTok when I felt the AI probing my mind and it made me uncomfortable, so I stopped using it. And in terms of antisemitic content, TikTok is rife with that. It has the most viral antisemitic content by far.",
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"content": "… because you’re a super genius. But I, as a normal person, I know there’s people way dumber than me. And they really, really believe. They watch YouTube videos, which go on uninterrupted, and spew out a bunch of fucking fake facts very eloquently and articulately. And they really believe. These people really believe.",
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"content": "I mean, if it works for them, sure. Fine.",
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"content": "It’s weird though, right, that in this age where, you know, there’s ludicrous mode in your car, goes 1.9 seconds, 0 to 60.",
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"content": "That’s 2.2.",
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"content": "So you feel like it’s inevitable, like an AI, a sentient AI, is essentially inevitable?",
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"content": "Super sentient AI. Like beyond a level that’s difficult to understand and impossible to understand probably.",
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"content": "Somehow or another, so it’s almost like it’s a requirement for survival to achieve some sort of symbiotic existence with AI.",
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"content": "It’s not a requirement. It’s just if you want to be along for the ride, then you need to do some kind of symbiosis. So the way your brain works right now, you’ve got kind of like the animal brain, reptile brain, kind of like the limbic system basically. And you’ve got the cortex. Now the brain purist will argue with this definition, but essentially you’ve got the primitive brain, and you’ve got the sort of smart brain or the brain that’s capable of planning and understanding concepts and difficult things that a monkey can’t understand.\nNow your cortex is much, much smarter than your limbic system. Nonetheless, they work together well. So I haven’t met anyone who wants to delete their limbic system or their cortex. People are quite happy having both. So you can think of this as being like the computer; the AI is like a third layer, a tertiary layer. So that could be symbiotic with the cortex. It’d be much smarter than the cortex, but you essentially have three layers, and you actually have that right now.\nYour phone is capable of things, and your computer is capable of things that your brain is definitely not. Storing terabytes of information perfectly, doing incredible calculations that we couldn’t even come close to doing. You have that with your computer. It’s just like I said, the data rate is slow, the connection is weak.",
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"content": "So far.",
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"content": "Yes. They said you cannot ship a flamethrower.",
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"content": "But you do so many different things – forget about the flamethrower – like, how do you do all that other shit like, how does one decide to fix L.A. traffic by drilling holes in the ground and who do you even approach with that? Like, when you have this idea, who do you talk to about that?",
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"content": "I’m not saying it’s going to be successful or so, you know; it’s not like asserting that it’s going to be successful. But so far I have lived in L.A. for 16 years, and the traffic has always been terrible. And I don’t see any other ideas for improving the traffic. So, in desperation, we are going to dig a tunnel, and maybe that tunnel will be successful, and maybe it won’t.\n(short silence)",
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"content": "You do?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "A better design?",
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"content": "I mean, probably. I think it is, yes.",
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"content": "Of course. Yeah, it’s a good point.",
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"content": "If you’re going to die, you’re going to have shortness of breath, weakness, and you might cough a little.",
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"content": "So was it quantified? Was it?",
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"content": "Yeah, did that person, did they actually have a Covid test, and the test came back positive? And then if they died, did they die where Covid was… It doesn’t have to be the main cause, but was it a significant contributor to their death, or was it not a significant contributor to the death?",
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"content": "It’s hilarious. I mean it’s pretty hilarious.",
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"content": "No, it’s absurd. Really, it’s exercise and absurdity and it makes me want to pull my hair out.",
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"content": "Yeah. What do you get from video games in general, for you personally?",
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"content": "I don’t know. It calms my mind. I mean, killing the demons in a video game calms the demons in my mind. If you play a tough video game, you can get into a state of flow, which is very enjoyable. Admittedly, it needs to be not too easy, not too hard, kind of in the Goldilocks zone, and I guess you generally want to feel like you’re progressing in the game. A good video, and there’s also beautiful art, engaging storylines, and it’s like an amazing puzzle to solve, I think. So it’s like solving the puzzle.",
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"content": "Okay. I’m not going to ask you whether you think it’s been ruined because obviously you’re not going to say it has.",
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"content": "No, I think it’s great. It’s way better. Better by a lot.",
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"content": "I’m done with this interview. It sounds like you don’t want to take any questions from your legions of fans.",
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"content": "I was looking for questions. You got any questions?",
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"content": "So the reason I brought that up is as a content creator, I’d like to keep making those, and I don’t want to necessarily fool people. So would it be possible to, I don’t know, add a flag to it so that content creators can say, “Hey, this is AI generated content. Don’t take it seriously, it’s a parody,”?",
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"content": "Well, I think in the tweet, in the post, I think it would be advisable to say that this is not real if it is something that can be potentially misinterpreted.",
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"content": "Okay.",
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"content": "It was crazy how viral that picture of the Pope with the awesome jacket-",
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"content": "Just integrated, right?",
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"content": "Yeah, just a mini version of the big tanks.",
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"content": "Right, oh, and then you don’t have an extra wall and everything too, it’s just integrated into…",
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"content": "Like in the early days of rocketry, like V2 or whatever, the fuel and oxygen tanks were carried like cargo in the aeroshell.",
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