elplaguister/DTS_line_datasets · Datasets at Hugging Face

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false	We could get a very detailed overlap if they were willing to transcribe each meeting four or five times. Right ? One for each participant. So they could by hand	QMSum_78
false	Well , that 's one way to do it.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	But I 've been saying the other thing is just go through it for the overlaps.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm , that 's right.	QMSum_78
false	Right ?	QMSum_78
false	And with the right in interface	QMSum_78
false	Given that y and and do so instead of doing phonetic , uh , uh , transcription for the whole thing ,	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	which we know from the Steve 's experience with the Switchboard transcription is , you know , very , very time - consuming. And and you know , it took them I don't know how many months to do to get four hours. And so that hasn't been really our focus. Uh , we can consider it. But , I mean , the other thing is since we 've been spending so much time thinking about overlaps is is maybe get a much more detailed analysis of the overlaps.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm.	QMSum_78
false	But anyway , I 'm I 'm open to c our consideration.	QMSum_78
false	That 'd be great.	QMSum_78
false	Hmm.	QMSum_78
false	I I don't wanna say that by fiat.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	I 'm open to every consideration of what are some other kinds of detailed analysis that would be most useful.	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm.	QMSum_78
false	And , uh , uh ,	QMSum_78
false	Hmm.	QMSum_78
false	I I I think this year we we actually , uh , can do it.	QMSum_78
false	Oh , wonderful.	QMSum_78
false	It 's a we have we have due to @ @ variations in funding we have we seem to be doing , uh , very well on m money for this this year , and next year we may have have much less.	QMSum_78
false	Is you mean two thousand one ?	QMSum_78
false	So I don't wanna hire a	QMSum_78
false	Calendar year or ?	QMSum_78
false	Uh , I mean , calendar year two thousand one.	QMSum_78
false	OK.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah. So it 's uh , it 's we don't wanna hire a bunch of people , a long - term staff ,	QMSum_78
false	Full - time. Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm. Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	because the the funding that we 've gotten is sort of a big chunk for this year. But having temporary people doing some specific thing that we need is actually a perfect match to that kind of , uh , funding.	QMSum_78
false	Wonderful.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	And then school will start in in the sixt on the sixteenth.	QMSum_78
false	So.	QMSum_78
false	Some of them will have to cut back their hours at that point.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	Are they working full - time now , or ?	QMSum_78
false	But Some of them are.	QMSum_78
false	Wow.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah. Well , why do I wouldn't say forty - hour weeks. No. But what I mean is Oh , I shouldn't say it that way because that does sound like forty - hour weeks. No. I th I I would say they 're probably they don't have o they don't have other things that are taking away their time.	QMSum_78
false	I don't see how someone could do forty hours a week on transcription.	QMSum_78
false	Hmm.	QMSum_78
false	But it 's you can't.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah. Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	No. You 're right. It 's i it would be too taxing. But , um , they 're putting in a lot of	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	And and I checked them over.	QMSum_78
false	I I I haven't checked them all , but just spot - checking. They 're fantastic.	QMSum_78
false	I think it would be	QMSum_78
false	I remember when we were transcribing BeRP , uh , uh , uh , Ron Kay , uh , volunteered to to do some of that. And , he was the first first stuff he did was transcribing Chuck. And he 's saying " You you know , I always thought Chuck spoke really well. "	QMSum_78
false	Yeah. Yeah. Well , you know , and I also thought , y Liz has this , eh , you know , and I do also , this this interest in the types of overlaps that are involved. These people would be great choices for doing coding of that type if we wanted ,	QMSum_78
false	We 'd have to mark them.	QMSum_78
true	or whatever. So , um.	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm.	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm.	QMSum_78
false	I think it would also be interesting to have , uh , a couple of the meetings have more than one transcriber do ,	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	cuz I 'm curious about inter - annotator agreement.	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	OK. Yeah. Th - that 'd be I think that 's a a good idea.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	You know , there 's also , the e In my mind , I think A An - Andreas was leading to this topic , the idea that , um , we haven't yet seen the the type of transcript that we get from IBM , and it may just be , you know , pristine. But on the other hand , given the lesser interface Cuz this is , you know we 've got a good interface , we 've got great headphones , m um	QMSum_78
false	It could be that they will uh theirs will end up being a kind of fir first pass or something.	QMSum_78
false	Something like that.	QMSum_78
false	Maybe an elaborate one , cuz again they probably are gonna do these alignments , which will also clear things up.	QMSum_78
false	That 's that 's true. Al - although you have to s Don't you have to start with a close enough approximation of the of the verbal part to be able to ?	QMSum_78
false	Well , tha that 's that 's debatable.	QMSum_78
false	OK.	QMSum_78
false	Right ? I mean , so the so the argument is that if your statistical system is good it will in fact , uh , clean things up.	QMSum_78
false	OK.	QMSum_78
false	Right ? So it it 's got its own objective criterion.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	And , uh , so in principle you could start up with something that was kind of rough I mean , to give an example of , um , something we used to do , uh , at one point , uh , back back when Chuck was here in early times , is we would take , um , da take a word and , uh , have a canonical pronunciation and , uh , if there was five phones in a word , you 'd break up the word , uh , into five equal - length pieces which is completely gross.	QMSum_78
false	Wrong.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah.	QMSum_78
false	Right ? I mean , th the timing is off all over the place in just about any word.	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm. OK.	QMSum_78
false	But it 's O K. You start off with that and the statistical system then aligns things , and eventually you get something that doesn't really look too bad.	QMSum_78
false	Oh , excellent. OK.	QMSum_78
false	So so I think using a a good aligner , um , actually can can help a lot. Um. But , uh , you know , they both help each other. If you have a if you have a better starting point , then it helps the aligner. If you have a good alignment , it helps the , uh , th the human in in taking less time to correct things.	QMSum_78
false	OK.	QMSum_78
false	So so	QMSum_78
false	Excellent. I guess there 's another aspect , too , and I don't know uh , this this is very possibly a different , uh , topic. But , uh , just let me say with reference to this idea of , um , higher - order organization within meetings. So like in a you know , the topics that are covered during a meeting with reference to the other , uh , uses of the data ,	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm.	QMSum_78
false	so being able to find where so - and - so talked about such - and - such , then , um , um e I mean , I I I did sort of a a rough pass on encoding , like , episode - like level things on the , uh , transcribed meeting	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm.	QMSum_78
false	already transcribed meeting. And I don't know if , um	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm.	QMSum_78
false	where that i if that 's something that we wanna do with each meeting , sort of like a , um it 's like a manifest , when you get a box full of stuff , or or if that 's , um	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm.	QMSum_78
false	I mean , i I I don't know what uh , level of detail would be most useful. I don't know i if that 's something that I should do when I look over it , or if we want someone else to do , or whatever.	QMSum_78
false	Mm - hmm.	QMSum_78
false	But this issue of the contents of the meeting in an outline form. OK.	QMSum_78
false	Yeah. Meaning really isn't my thing. Um	QMSum_78
false	I think it just whoever is interested can do that. I mean , so if someone wants to use that data	QMSum_78

false

We could get a very detailed overlap if they were willing to transcribe each meeting four or five times. Right ? One for each participant. So they could by hand

QMSum_78

false

Well , that 's one way to do it.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

But I 've been saying the other thing is just go through it for the overlaps.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm , that 's right.

QMSum_78

false

Right ?

QMSum_78

false

And with the right in interface

QMSum_78

false

Given that y and and do so instead of doing phonetic , uh , uh , transcription for the whole thing ,

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

which we know from the Steve 's experience with the Switchboard transcription is , you know , very , very time - consuming. And and you know , it took them I don't know how many months to do to get four hours. And so that hasn't been really our focus. Uh , we can consider it. But , I mean , the other thing is since we 've been spending so much time thinking about overlaps is is maybe get a much more detailed analysis of the overlaps.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm.

QMSum_78

false

But anyway , I 'm I 'm open to c our consideration.

QMSum_78

false

That 'd be great.

QMSum_78

false

Hmm.

QMSum_78

false

I I don't wanna say that by fiat.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

I 'm open to every consideration of what are some other kinds of detailed analysis that would be most useful.

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm.

QMSum_78

false

And , uh , uh ,

QMSum_78

false

Hmm.

QMSum_78

false

I I I think this year we we actually , uh , can do it.

QMSum_78

false

Oh , wonderful.

QMSum_78

false

It 's a we have we have due to @ @ variations in funding we have we seem to be doing , uh , very well on m money for this this year , and next year we may have have much less.

QMSum_78

false

Is you mean two thousand one ?

QMSum_78

false

So I don't wanna hire a

QMSum_78

false

Calendar year or ?

QMSum_78

false

Uh , I mean , calendar year two thousand one.

QMSum_78

false

OK.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah. So it 's uh , it 's we don't wanna hire a bunch of people , a long - term staff ,

QMSum_78

false

Full - time. Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm. Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

because the the funding that we 've gotten is sort of a big chunk for this year. But having temporary people doing some specific thing that we need is actually a perfect match to that kind of , uh , funding.

QMSum_78

false

Wonderful.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

And then school will start in in the sixt on the sixteenth.

QMSum_78

false

So.

QMSum_78

false

Some of them will have to cut back their hours at that point.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

Are they working full - time now , or ?

QMSum_78

false

But Some of them are.

QMSum_78

false

Wow.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah. Well , why do I wouldn't say forty - hour weeks. No. But what I mean is Oh , I shouldn't say it that way because that does sound like forty - hour weeks. No. I th I I would say they 're probably they don't have o they don't have other things that are taking away their time.

QMSum_78

false

I don't see how someone could do forty hours a week on transcription.

QMSum_78

false

Hmm.

QMSum_78

false

But it 's you can't.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah. Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

No. You 're right. It 's i it would be too taxing. But , um , they 're putting in a lot of

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

And and I checked them over.

QMSum_78

false

I I I haven't checked them all , but just spot - checking. They 're fantastic.

QMSum_78

false

I think it would be

QMSum_78

false

I remember when we were transcribing BeRP , uh , uh , uh , Ron Kay , uh , volunteered to to do some of that. And , he was the first first stuff he did was transcribing Chuck. And he 's saying " You you know , I always thought Chuck spoke really well. "

QMSum_78

false

Yeah. Yeah. Well , you know , and I also thought , y Liz has this , eh , you know , and I do also , this this interest in the types of overlaps that are involved. These people would be great choices for doing coding of that type if we wanted ,

QMSum_78

false

We 'd have to mark them.

QMSum_78

true

or whatever. So , um.

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm.

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm.

QMSum_78

false

I think it would also be interesting to have , uh , a couple of the meetings have more than one transcriber do ,

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

cuz I 'm curious about inter - annotator agreement.

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

OK. Yeah. Th - that 'd be I think that 's a a good idea.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

You know , there 's also , the e In my mind , I think A An - Andreas was leading to this topic , the idea that , um , we haven't yet seen the the type of transcript that we get from IBM , and it may just be , you know , pristine. But on the other hand , given the lesser interface Cuz this is , you know we 've got a good interface , we 've got great headphones , m um

QMSum_78

false

It could be that they will uh theirs will end up being a kind of fir first pass or something.

QMSum_78

false

Something like that.

QMSum_78

false

Maybe an elaborate one , cuz again they probably are gonna do these alignments , which will also clear things up.

QMSum_78

false

That 's that 's true. Al - although you have to s Don't you have to start with a close enough approximation of the of the verbal part to be able to ?

QMSum_78

false

Well , tha that 's that 's debatable.

QMSum_78

false

OK.

QMSum_78

false

Right ? I mean , so the so the argument is that if your statistical system is good it will in fact , uh , clean things up.

QMSum_78

false

OK.

QMSum_78

false

Right ? So it it 's got its own objective criterion.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

And , uh , so in principle you could start up with something that was kind of rough I mean , to give an example of , um , something we used to do , uh , at one point , uh , back back when Chuck was here in early times , is we would take , um , da take a word and , uh , have a canonical pronunciation and , uh , if there was five phones in a word , you 'd break up the word , uh , into five equal - length pieces which is completely gross.

QMSum_78

false

Wrong.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah.

QMSum_78

false

Right ? I mean , th the timing is off all over the place in just about any word.

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm. OK.

QMSum_78

false

But it 's O K. You start off with that and the statistical system then aligns things , and eventually you get something that doesn't really look too bad.

QMSum_78

false

Oh , excellent. OK.

QMSum_78

false

So so I think using a a good aligner , um , actually can can help a lot. Um. But , uh , you know , they both help each other. If you have a if you have a better starting point , then it helps the aligner. If you have a good alignment , it helps the , uh , th the human in in taking less time to correct things.

QMSum_78

false

OK.

QMSum_78

false

So so

QMSum_78

false

Excellent. I guess there 's another aspect , too , and I don't know uh , this this is very possibly a different , uh , topic. But , uh , just let me say with reference to this idea of , um , higher - order organization within meetings. So like in a you know , the topics that are covered during a meeting with reference to the other , uh , uses of the data ,

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm.

QMSum_78

false

so being able to find where so - and - so talked about such - and - such , then , um , um e I mean , I I I did sort of a a rough pass on encoding , like , episode - like level things on the , uh , transcribed meeting

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm.

QMSum_78

false

already transcribed meeting. And I don't know if , um

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm.

QMSum_78

false

where that i if that 's something that we wanna do with each meeting , sort of like a , um it 's like a manifest , when you get a box full of stuff , or or if that 's , um

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm.

QMSum_78

false

I mean , i I I don't know what uh , level of detail would be most useful. I don't know i if that 's something that I should do when I look over it , or if we want someone else to do , or whatever.

QMSum_78

false

Mm - hmm.

QMSum_78

false

But this issue of the contents of the meeting in an outline form. OK.

QMSum_78

false

Yeah. Meaning really isn't my thing. Um

QMSum_78

false

I think it just whoever is interested can do that. I mean , so if someone wants to use that data

QMSum_78