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LESSONS LEARNED: CHARTING |
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ONE HUNDRED SEVENTEENTH CONGRESS |
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HEARING HELD IN WASHINGTON, DC, MARCH 25, 2021 |
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COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR |
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ROBERT C. ``BOBBY'' SCOTT, Virginia, Chairman |
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RAUL M. GRIJALVA, Arizona VIRGINIA FOXX, North Carolina, |
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JOE COURTNEY, Connecticut Ranking Member |
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GREGORIO KILILI CAMACHO SABLAN, JOE WILSON, South Carolina |
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Northern Mariana Islands GLENN THOMPSON, Pennsylvania |
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FREDERICA S. WILSON, Florida TIM WALBERG, Michigan |
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SUZANNE BONAMICI, Oregon GLENN GROTHMAN, Wisconsin |
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MARK TAKANO, California ELISE M. STEFANIK, New York |
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ALMA S. ADAMS, North Carolina RICK W. ALLEN, Georgia |
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MARK De SAULNIER, California JIM BANKS, Indiana |
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DONALD NORCROSS, New Jersey JAMES COMER, Kentucky |
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PRAMILA JAYAPAL, Washington RUSS FULCHER, Idaho |
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JOSEPH D. MORELLE, New York FRED KELLER, Pennsylvania |
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SUSAN WILD, Pennsylvania GREGORY F. MURPHY, North Carolina |
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LUCY Mc BATH, Georgia MARIANNETTE MILLER-MEEKS, Iowa |
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JAHANA HAYES, Connecticut BURGESS OWENS, Utah |
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ANDY LEVIN, Michigan BOB GOOD, Virginia |
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ILHAN OMAR, Minnesota LISA C. Mc CLAIN, Michigan |
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HALEY M. STEVENS, Michigan DIANA HARSHBARGER, Tennessee |
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TERESA LEGER FERNANDEZ, New Mexico MARY E. MILLER, Illinois |
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MONDAIRE JONES, New York VICTORIA SPARTZ, Indiana |
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KATHY E. MANNING, North Carolina SCOTT FITZGERALD, Wisconsin |
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FRANK J. MRVAN, Indiana MADISON CAWTHORN, North Carolina |
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JAMAAL BOWMAN, New York, Vice-Chair MICHELLE STEEL, California |
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MARK POCAN, Wisconsin Vacancy |
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JOAQUIN CASTRO, Texas Vacancy |
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MIKIE SHERRILL, New Jersey |
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JOHN A. YARMUTH, Kentucky |
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ADRIANO ESPAILLAT, New York |
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KWEISI MFUME, Maryland |
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Veronique Pluviose, Staff Director |
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Cyrus Artz, Minority Staff Director |
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SUBCOMMITTEE ON EARLY CHILDHOOD, ELEMENTARY, AND SECONDARY EDUCATION |
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GREGORIO KILILI CAMACHO SABLAN, Northern Mariana Islands, Chairman |
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JAHANA HAYES, Connecticut BURGESS OWENS, Utah |
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RAUL M. GRIJALVA, Arizona Ranking Member |
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JOHN A. YARMUTH, Kentucky GLENN GROTHMAN, Wisconsin |
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FREDERICA S. WILSON, Florida RICK W. ALLEN, Georgia |
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MARK De SAULNIER, California FRED KELLER, Pennsylvania |
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JOSEPH D. MORELLE, New York MARY E. MILLER, Illinois |
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LUCY Mc BATH, Georgia MADISON CAWTHORN, North Carolina |
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ANDY LEVIN, Michigan MICHELLE STEEL, California |
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KATHY E. MANNING, North Carolina Vacancy |
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JAMAAL BOWMAN, New York Vacancy |
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ROBERT C. ``BOBBY'' SCOTT, Virginia VIRGINIA FOXX, North Carolina |
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C O N T E N T S |
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Hearing held on March 25, 2021................................... 1 |
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Statement of Members: |
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Sablan, Hon. Gregorio Kilili Camacho, Chairman, Subcommittee |
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on Early Childhood, Elementary, and Secondary Education.... 1 |
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Prepared statement of.................................... 5 |
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Owens, Hon. Burgess, Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Early |
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Childhood, Elementary, and Secondary Education............. 6 |
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Prepared statement of.................................... 9 |
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Statement of Witnesses: |
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Almazan, Selene A., Esq., Legal Director, Council of Parent |
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Attorneys and Advocates, Inc............................... 23 |
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Prepared statement of.................................... 26 |
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Carvalho, Alberto M., Superintendent of Schools, Miami-Dade |
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County Public Schools...................................... 43 |
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Prepared statement of.................................... 46 |
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Dale, Jennifer, Parent....................................... 18 |
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Prepared statement of.................................... 21 |
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Morial, Marc H., JD, President and CEO, National Urban League 12 |
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Prepared statement of.................................... 14 |
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Additional Submissions: |
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Scott, Hon. Robert C. ``Bobby'', a Representative in Congress |
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from the State of Virginia: |
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Article: ``CDC report on Smithfield COVID-19 outbreak in |
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Sioux Falls was redone with 'watered down' |
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recommendations''...................................... 78 |
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Article: ``The CDC softened a report on meatpacking |
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safety during the pandemic. Democrats say they want to |
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know why.''............................................ 85 |
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Article: ``Democrats demand answers from Labor Department |
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on CDC recommendations for meatpacking plant''......... 89 |
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CDC guidelines on Operational Strategy for K-12 Schools |
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through Phased Prevention.............................. 91 |
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NEA News: Six Ways ESSA Will Improve Assessments......... 109 |
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NWEA technical brief: Comparability analysis of remote |
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and in-person MAP Growth testing in fall 2020.......... 118 |
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Future Ed: A Smart Role for State Standardized Testing in |
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2021................................................... 137 |
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GAO WatchBlog: The Challenges of Going Back to School.... 140 |
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GAO WatchBlog: Racial Disparities in Education and the |
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Role of Government..................................... 144 |
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Statement from the National Council on Disability........ 147 |
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Letter from the National Association of School |
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Psychologists.......................................... 150 |
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Report from Common Sense and Hopelab--Coping with COVID- |
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19: How young people use digital media to manage their |
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mental health.......................................... 153 |
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Questions submitted for the record by: |
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Wilson, Hon. Federica, a Representative in Congress from |
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the State of Florida................................... 228 |
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Morelle, Hon. Joseph, a Representative in Congress from |
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the State of New York.................................. 228 |
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Responses to questions submitted for the record by: |
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Mr. Morial............................................... 229 |
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LESSONS LEARNED: CHARTING |
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THE PATH TO EDUCATIONAL EQUITY |
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Thursday, March 25, 2021 |
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House of Representatives, |
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Subcommittee on Early Childhood, |
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Elementary, and Secondary Education, |
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Committee on Education and Labor, |
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Washington, DC. |
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The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 1:01 p.m., via |
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Zoom, Hon. Gregorio Kilili Camacho Sablan (Chairman of the |
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subcommittee) presiding. |
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Present: Representatives Sablan, Hayes, Grijalva, Yarmuth, |
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Wilson, DeSaulnier, Morelle, McBath, Levin, Manning, Bowman, |
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Scott (Ex Officio), Owens, Grothman, Allen, Keller, Miller, |
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Cawthorn, Steel and Foxx (Ex Officio). |
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Staff present: Phoebe Ball, Disability Counsel; Ilana |
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Brunner, General Counsel; David Dailey, Counsel to the |
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Chairman; Sheila Havenner, Director of Information Technology; |
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Eli Hovland, Policy Associate; Ariel Jones, Policy Associate; |
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Andre Lindsay, Policy Associate; Max Moore, Staff Assistant; |
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Mariah Mowbray, Clerk/Special Assistant to the Staff Director; |
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Kayla Pennebacker, Staff Assistant; Veronique Pluviose, Staff |
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Director; Benjamin Sinoff, Director of Education Oversight; |
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Lakeisha Steel, Senior Education Policy Advisor; Claire Viall, |
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Professional Staff; Cyrus Artz, Minority Staff Director; Kelsey |
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Avino, Minority Professional Staff Member; Courtney Butcher, |
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Minority Director of Member Services and Coalitions; Amy Raaf |
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Jones, Minority Director of Education and Human Resources |
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Policy; Dean Johnson, Minority Legislative Assistant; Hannah |
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Matesic, Minority Director of Operations; Audra McGeorge, |
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Minority Communications Director; Carlton Norwood, Minority |
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Press Secretary; Chance Russell, Minority Legislative |
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Assistant; Mandy Schaumberg, Minority Chief Counsel and Deputy |
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Director of Education Policy; and Brad Thomas, Minority Senior |
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Education Policy Advisor. |
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Chairman Sablan. The Subcommittee of Early Childhood |
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Elementary and Secondary Education will come to order. Welcome |
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everyone. I note that a quorum is present. The subcommittee is |
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meeting today to hear testimony on Charting the Path to |
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Education Equity Post-COVID-19. And this is an entirely remote |
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hearing. |
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All microphones will be kept muted as a general rule to |
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avoid unnecessary background noise. Members and witnesses will |
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be responsible for unmuting themselves when they are recognized |
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to speak, or when they wish to seek recognition. I also ask the |
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Members please identify themselves before they speak. |
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Members should keep their cameras on while in the |
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proceeding. Members shall be considered present in the |
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proceeding when they are visible on camera, and they shall be |
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considered not present when they are not visible on camera. The |
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only exception to this is if they are experiencing technical |
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difficulty and inform committee staff of such difficulty. |
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If any Member experiences technical difficulties during the |
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hearing you should stay connected on the platform, make sure |
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you are muted and use your phone to immediately call the |
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committee's IT director whose number was provided in advance. |
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Should the Chair experience technical difficulty or need to |
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step away, Chairman Scott as a Member of this subcommittee, or |
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another Majority Member of the subcommittee if Chairman Scott |
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is not available, is hereby authorized to assume the gavel in |
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the Chair's absence. |
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This is an entirely remote meeting. And as such the |
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Committee's hearing room is officially closed. Members who |
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choose to sit with their individual devices in the hearing room |
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must wear headphones to avoid feedback, echoes and distortion |
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resulting from more than one person on the software platform |
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sitting in the same room. |
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Members are also expected to adhere to social distancing, |
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and safe healthcare guidelines including the use of masks, hand |
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sanitizers and wiping down their areas, both before and after |
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their presence in the hearing room. In order to ensure that the |
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Committee's five-minute rule is adhered to, staff will be |
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keeping track of time using the Committee's field timer. |
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The field timer will appear in its own thumbnail picture |
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and will be named 001_timer. There will be no one minute |
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remaining warning. The field timer will sound its audio alarm |
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when time is up, and it goes really loud--``bzzzzzz.'' Members |
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and witnesses are asked to wrap up promptly when their time has |
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expired. |
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While a roll call is not necessary to establish a quorum in |
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official proceedings conducted remotely or with remote |
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participation, the committee has made it a practice whenever |
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there is an official proceeding with remote participation for |
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the Clerk to call the roll to help make clear who is present at |
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the start of the proceeding. |
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Members should say their name before announcing they are |
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present. This helps the clerk, and also helps those watching |
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the platform and the livestream who may experience a few |
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seconds delay. |
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So, at this time I ask the Clerk to call the roll. |
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The Clerk. Chairman Sablan? |
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Chairman Sablan. Sablan is present. |
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The Clerk. Mrs. Hayes. |
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Mrs. Hayes. Hayes is present. |
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The Clerk. Mr. Grijalva? |
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Mr. Grijalva. Present. |
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The Clerk. Mr. Yarmuth? |
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Mr. Yarmuth. Present. |
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The Clerk. Ms. Wilson? |
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Ms. Wilson. Miss Wilson is present. |
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The Clerk. Mr. DeSaulnier? |
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[No response.] |
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The Clerk. Mr. Morelle? |
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Mr. Morelle. Mr. Morelle is present. |
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The Clerk. Mrs. McBath? |
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Mrs. McBath. Mrs. McBath is present. |
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The Clerk. Mr. Levin? |
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Mr. Levin. Levin is present. |
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The Clerk. Ms. Manning? |
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Ms. Manning. Manning is present. |
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The Clerk. Mr. Bowman? |
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[No response.] |
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The Clerk. Mr. Scott? |
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Mr. Scott. Scott is present. |
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The Clerk. Ranking Member Owens. |
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Mr. Owens. Owens is present. |
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The Clerk. Mr. Grothman? |
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[No response.] |
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The Clerk. Mr. Allen? |
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[No response.] |
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The Clerk. Mr. Keller? |
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Mr. Keller. Keller is present. |
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The Clerk. Mrs. Miller? |
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Mrs. Miller. Miller is present. |
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The Clerk. Mr. Cawthorn? |
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[No response.] |
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The Clerk. Mrs. Steel? |
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Mrs. Steel. Steel present. |
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The Clerk. Mrs. Foxx? |
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Mrs. Foxx. Foxx is present. |
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The Clerk. Chairman Sablan this concludes the roll call. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you. Thank you very much. And |
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pursuant to Committee Rule 8(c), opening statements are limited |
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to the Chair and the Ranking Member, and this allows us to hear |
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from our witnesses sooner, and provides all Members with |
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adequate time to ask questions. |
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I recognize myself now for the purpose of making an opening |
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statement. |
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Today we meet for charting the impact of the COVID-19 |
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pandemic on school communities and discuss strategies for |
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safely reopening classrooms and addressing educational |
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disparities. It has been just over a year since the pandemic |
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forced schools to abruptly switch to online platforms, |
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disrupting the education of more than 55 million students, and |
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upending our communities. |
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Unfortunately, the consequences of this transition have |
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extended beyond lost in person instructions. School closures |
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have restricted student's access to nutritious school meals, |
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and social and emotional learning opportunities. |
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And schools are less likely to identify cases of child |
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abuse and neglect while classrooms are closed. In my district |
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COVID-19 has had the greatest impact on students with |
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disabilities, Title I qualified students, English learners and |
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other vulnerable students that already face significant |
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challenges. |
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Going into the pandemic, schools that are predominantly |
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just serving students of color faced a 23-billion-dollar |
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funding gap compared to schools predominantly serving white |
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students. And because of this disparity many students entered |
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the pandemic without access to high-speed internet, dedicated |
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devices, and other things that are critical to remote learning. |
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They will also return to older classrooms and campuses with |
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much needed repairs, from iPhones, some even to find school |
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libraries losing their entire book collection, books meant for |
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student literacy. Dilapidated school facilities, including |
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dangerously outdated ventilation systems if they are there at |
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all. |
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The perfect storm of disparities has worsened inequities in |
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unfinished learning and often measurable widening of |
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achievement gaps. Research indicates black and Latino students |
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were three to 5 months behind in learning at the beginning of |
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this school year. By the end of the school year, they could be |
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6 to 12 months behind, compared to 4 to 8 months for white |
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students. |
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GAO reporting found that school districts struggled to |
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provide education and services for students with disabilities |
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and English learners. Further, a new survey by the National |
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Assessment of Education Progress, or NAEP, found that more than |
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half of all black, Latino and Asian fourth graders learned in a |
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fully remote environment. |
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Another survey showed that only about a quarter of Pacific |
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Islanders received full-time, in-person instruction. In |
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comparison, 25 percent of white students learned fully |
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remotely, and nearly half of white students received full-time |
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in-person instructions. |
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Students with disabilities have also disproportionally |
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suffered from this pandemic in the wake of the Trump |
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administration's failed COVID-19 response. Without adequate |
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guidance from the Department, schools struggled to maintain the |
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special education services that students with disabilities |
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needed to access quality education in a remote learning |
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environment. |
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Today, schools also face challenges to reopening classrooms |
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for students with disabilities, who may be more vulnerable to |
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the virus. For example, the NAEP 2021 survey showed that 40 |
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percent of schools prioritized students with disabilities for |
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full-time in-person instruction in the 4th and 8th grades. |
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Yet, students with disabilities have not received in-person |
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instructions at rates noticeably higher than other subgroups of |
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students. These continued disparities make clear that to ensure |
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that all schools and students recover from this pandemic, we |
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must target relief and resources to underserved students who |
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need them most. |
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Over the past year, Congress has taken historic steps |
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toward that goal through three major relief packages: The |
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Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act, or the |
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CARES Act, the Coronavirus Response and Relief Supplemental |
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Appropriations Act, and the most recently American Rescue Plan |
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Act. |
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Combined together, these packages secured nearly 200 |
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billion dollars in urgent relief for schools. The funding has |
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been critical for covering the increased costs of the pandemic |
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and preparing for the 300 billion dollars shortfall in State |
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and local budgets. To date, a reduced State revenue has already |
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cost more than a million education jobs. |
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The American Rescue Plan specifically makes the most |
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significant one-time investment in K through 12 education in |
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our Nation's history. Under President Biden, Congress swiftly |
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passed this legislation after school communities spent months |
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calling for additional funding to reopen schools safely and |
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support students. |
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The nearly 130 billion dollars of flexible funding in this |
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package will help schools take the necessary steps to safely |
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reopen and stay open. And it will help students overcome lost |
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time in the classrooms as well as severe trauma, hunger, and |
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homelessness. |
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The American Rescue Plan funding will also help Congress to |
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fulfill its long-standing commitment to meeting the needs of |
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students with disabilities. Specifically, the package dedicates |
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3 billion dollars to ensure that K through 12 students with |
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disabilities can access the free and appropriate public |
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education they have a right to, and toddlers with disabilities |
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can access the services they need to be ready to enter the |
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school system. |
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The lessons from our pandemic response so far have provided |
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a valuable foundation for Congress to take the next steps |
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toward educational equity. For example, we need accurate data |
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from statewide assessments to understand the full scope of this |
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pandemic. |
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Without this data, we cannot accurately target relief |
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funding to support school communities where racial achievement |
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gaps are greatest. We must also make systemic reforms to our K |
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through 12 education system to fully address educational |
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disparities. And this includes repairing crumbling school |
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infrastructure, confronting the growing resegregation of public |
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schools, and making other long-term investments to address |
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educational disparities. |
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Today, we will discuss the work we still have ahead to |
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close persistent achievement gaps and ensure a recovery from |
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this pandemic where every student succeeds. I want to thank our |
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witnesses again for being with us and I now go to the Ranking |
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Member of the Full Committee Ranking Member Dr. Foxx for her |
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opening statement. |
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[The statement of Chairman Sablan follows:] |
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Statement of Hon. Gregorio Kilili Camacho Sablan, Chairman, |
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Subcommittee on Early Childhood, Elementary, and Secondary Education |
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Today, we meet to examine the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on |
|
school communities and discuss strategies for safely reopening |
|
classrooms and addressing educational disparities. |
|
It has been just over a year since the pandemic forced schools to |
|
abruptly switch to online platforms, disrupting the education of more |
|
than 55 million students and upending our communities. |
|
Unfortunately, the consequences of this transition have extended |
|
beyond lost in-person instruction. School closures have restricted |
|
students' access to nutritious school meals and social and emotional |
|
learning opportunities. And schools are less likely to identify cases |
|
of child abuse and neglect while classrooms are closed. |
|
In my district, COVID-19 has had the greatest impact on students |
|
with disabilities, Title I qualified students, English learners, and |
|
other vulnerable students that already faced significant challenges. |
|
Going into the pandemic, schools predominantly serving students of |
|
color faced a $23 billion funding gap compared to schools predominantly |
|
serving white students. |
|
Because of this disparity, many students entered the pandemic |
|
without access to high-speed internet, dedicated devices, and other |
|
tools that are critical to remote learning. They will also return to |
|
older classrooms and campuses with much-needed repairs, from iPhones- |
|
some even to find school libraries losing their entire book collection- |
|
books meant for student literacy-and dilapidated school facilities, |
|
including dangerously outdated ventilation systems, if they are there |
|
at all. |
|
The perfect storm of disparities has worsened inequities in |
|
unfinished learning and caused a measurable widening of achievement |
|
gaps. |
|
Research indicates Black and Latino students were 3-5 months behind |
|
in learning at the beginning of this school year. By the end of the |
|
school year, they could be 6-12 months behind, compared to 4-8 months |
|
for white students. |
|
GAO reporting found that school districts struggled to provide |
|
education and services for students with disabilities and English |
|
learners. Further, a new survey by the National Assessment of |
|
Educational Progress, or NAEP, found that more than half of all Black, |
|
Latino, and Asian fourth graders learned in a fully remote environment. |
|
Another survey showed that only a quarter of Pacific Islanders received |
|
full-time, in-person instruction. In comparison, 25 percent of white |
|
students learned fully remotely, and nearly half of white students |
|
received full-time in-person instruction. |
|
Students with disabilities have also disproportionally suffered |
|
from this pandemic in the wake of the Trump Administration's failed |
|
COVID-19 response. Without adequate guidance from the Department, |
|
schools struggled to maintain the special education services that |
|
students with disabilities needed to access quality education in a |
|
remote learning environment. Today, schools also face challenges to |
|
reopening classrooms for students with disabilities, who may be more |
|
vulnerable to the virus. For example, the NAEP 2021 Survey shows that |
|
40 percent of schools prioritized students with disabilities for full- |
|
time in-person instruction in the 4th and 8th grades. Yet, students |
|
with disabilities have not received in-person instruction at rates |
|
noticeably higher than other subgroups of students. |
|
These continued disparities make clear that, to ensure that all |
|
schools and students recover from this pandemic, we must target relief |
|
and resources to underserved students who need them most. |
|
Over the past year, Congress has taken historic steps toward that |
|
goal through three major relief packages: |
|
|
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<bullet> the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act, or |
|
CARES Act, |
|
|
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<bullet> the Coronavirus Response and Relief Supplemental |
|
Appropriations Act, and most recently, |
|
|
|
<bullet> the American Rescue Plan Act. |
|
|
|
Combined, these packages secured nearly $200 billion in urgent |
|
relief for schools. The funding has been critical for covering the |
|
increased costs of the pandemic and preparing for the $300 billion |
|
shortfall in State and local budgets. To date, reduced State revenue |
|
has already cost more than a million education jobs. |
|
The American Rescue Plan, specifically, makes the most significant |
|
one-time investment in K-12 education in our Nation's history. Under |
|
President Biden, Congress swiftly passed this legislation after school |
|
communities spent months calling for additional funding to reopen |
|
schools safely and support students. |
|
The nearly $130 billion of flexible funding in this package will |
|
help schools take the necessary steps to safely reopen and stay open. |
|
And it will help students overcome lost time in the classroom as well |
|
as severe trauma, hunger, and homelessness. |
|
The American Rescue Plan funding will also help Congress fulfill |
|
its long-standing commitment to meeting the needs of students with |
|
disabilities. Specifically, the package dedicates $3 billion to ensure |
|
that K-12 students with disabilities can access the free and |
|
appropriate public education they have a right to, and toddlers with |
|
disabilities can access the services they need to be ready to enter the |
|
school system. |
|
The lessons from our pandemic response so far have provided a |
|
valuable foundation for Congress to take the next steps toward |
|
educational equity. |
|
For example, we need accurate data from statewide assessments to |
|
understand the full scope of this pandemic. Without this data, we |
|
cannot accurately target relief funding to support school communities |
|
where racial achievement gaps are greatest. |
|
We must also make systemic reforms to our K-12 education system to |
|
fully address educational disparities. This includes repairing |
|
crumbling school infrastructure, confronting the growing resegregation |
|
of public schools, and making other long-term investments to address |
|
educational disparities. |
|
Today, we will discuss the work we still have ahead to close |
|
persistent achievement gaps and ensure a recovery from this pandemic |
|
where every student succeeds. |
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Mr. Owens. Mr. Chairman I will take that, Ranking Member. |
|
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks to all our witnesses for |
|
joining us. |
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Chairman Sablan. Could the gentlemen suspend for a minute? |
|
Mr. Owens. Yes. |
|
Chairman Sablan. Dr. Foxx will make her opening statement. |
|
She's just trying to unmute herself. Dr. Foxx there should be-- |
|
the microphone should be on your lower right-hand if you're |
|
using a computer. Yes left-hand corner facing you Dr. Foxx. |
|
Ms. Foxx. Banyan can you hear me? |
|
Mr. Scott. Yes, yes. |
|
Ms. Foxx. I have no sound. |
|
Chairman Sablan. Dr. Foxx I apologize. Mr. Owens is |
|
actually going to make his opening statements and then on the |
|
questioning you're going to be ahead of Mr. Owens, so I |
|
apologize, my mistake, so we'll go back and recognize Mr. Owens |
|
please. |
|
Mr. Owens. Thank you. |
|
Chairman Sablan. Thank you Dr. Foxx, thank you. |
|
Ms. Foxx. Thank you. |
|
Chairman Sablan. Mr. Owens you have five minutes sir. |
|
Mr. Owens. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks for our |
|
witnesses for joining us. And shouldn't all children have |
|
opportunities to achieve the American dream? It must never be a |
|
partisan issue. All students, regardless of zip code or socio- |
|
economic status should have the freedom to attend the school |
|
that meets their unique needs setting them up for lifelong |
|
success. |
|
I grew up in the deep south in a touch with Jim Crow and |
|
the KKK. Racial segregation and inequities in education are not |
|
just chapters in a history book for me. I lived and experienced |
|
them first-hand. I'm the child of educators. My father received |
|
his Ph.D. from Ohio State University and taught Agronomy at |
|
Florida A and M. |
|
My mother was a junior high school teacher. I was taught |
|
from a young age of the importance of education and hard work. |
|
I firmly believe education is the key to unlocking our |
|
children's future across abilities. Tragically, the COVID-19 |
|
pandemic has served as a major setback for K through 12 |
|
students nationwide. |
|
The purpose of today's hearing might be to discuss |
|
educational equity post COVID-19, but there can be no |
|
educational equity when classroom doors remain shut. Too many |
|
poor families, many of them students of color, as well as those |
|
with disabilities, have been left with no educational options |
|
other than to wait on the bureaucrats to--[inaudible]--vote |
|
upon the science and reopen schools. |
|
The current administration and this Congress have failed |
|
these families. Every day our inaction worsens the education |
|
disparities in our communities, which over time will contribute |
|
to widening opportunities and wealth gaps. The best way to help |
|
struggling families is to give them more freedom to make |
|
choices for their children's education, not by shutting them |
|
out of schools and closing doors of great opportunities. |
|
While numerous states and schools have listened to the |
|
science and implemented proper safety precautions to offer |
|
students and families safe, in-person instructions, too many |
|
students are trapped in school districts that refuse to reopen, |
|
causing irreversible harm to our Nation's children. |
|
This is far from equity, and we must do better. That's why |
|
House Republicans called for a bipartisan investigation into |
|
the effects that school closures are having on children with |
|
disabilities. In a letter to Chairmen Clayton, Maloney, Scott |
|
and Pallone, my fellow Republicans wrote, and I quote, |
|
``Students with disabilities are falling behind. States and |
|
localities are not meeting even the minimum requirements. |
|
If States and localities are violating Federal civil right |
|
laws to the detriment of students, they must be investigated, |
|
and their actions corrected.'' Closed classrooms have also |
|
increased mental health problems among the students. CDC data |
|
shows that mental health visits to the emergency room increased |
|
by 24 and 31 percent with children from March to October of |
|
last year. |
|
Additionally, 2020 analysis by McKenzie and Company |
|
estimates that children of color may lose up to 1 year of |
|
learning compared to white students losing 4 to 8 months, with |
|
an average overall learning loss of 9 months. |
|
These numbers are jaw-dropping. We cannot allow future |
|
generations to fall further behind while the Biden |
|
Administration tiptoes around the radical demands of teacher |
|
unions. Embarrassingly, the United Teachers of Los Angeles, |
|
UTLA, demanded a host of left-wing priorities such as Medicare |
|
for all, defunding the police, wealth, and millionaire taxes, |
|
at least 50 billion in school nationwide, housing security and |
|
security to school moratorium and a safety requisites in our |
|
in-person return to schools. |
|
But rather than address these outrageous wish lists, which |
|
have nothing to do with reopening schools, the Democrats have |
|
claimed that we all want schools to reopen. Their actions, or |
|
lack thereof, speaks louder than words. In addition, the Biden |
|
Administration seems to change their tune daily on reopening |
|
schools. |
|
Even the Washington Post labeled their messaging as a |
|
muddled mess. Let's follow the science. Last week the CDC |
|
reversed its course on six feet of social distancing, admitting |
|
that their previous guideline was politically motivated. This |
|
comes after CDC Director Walensky's statement that schools |
|
could reopen before all teachers are vaccinated, a statement |
|
that was later reversed because of the pressures from teachers? |
|
unions. |
|
Like the CDC, congressional Democrats are willing to bend |
|
the facts on their crusade to politicize our children's |
|
education. Democrats ran through their so-called CDC relief |
|
bill, even though this body had already allocated significantly |
|
more funding than the CDC said was necessary to safely reopen |
|
schools. |
|
Even worse, the funds appropriated through this partisan |
|
legislation have nothing to do with reopening schools this |
|
spring. The data is clear. The longer the schools stay closed, |
|
the further our children fall behind, particularly those in |
|
disadvantaged groups. Yet the Biden Administration and |
|
Democrats continue to prioritize unions over students, and |
|
politics over science. |
|
This is no way to lead our country through this |
|
unprecedented crisis. This is no way to chart a path forward |
|
toward educational equality. The science is clear, Congress |
|
provided an abundance of funding, yet children are still stuck |
|
learning behind a screen, forcing our youngest and most |
|
vulnerable to overcome insurmountable barriers to success. |
|
For far too long Congress has bitterly divided on partisan |
|
lines. Our kids deserve better. I hope we can come together, |
|
not as Republicans and Democrats, but as parents, grandparents, |
|
and patriotic Americans to put the well-being of our children |
|
first. I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today, |
|
particularly Mrs. Jennifer Dale, who will offer testimonies on |
|
her testimony, with harmful and lengthy school closures and how |
|
it has impacted her family. |
|
Thank you Mr. Chairman and I yield back. |
|
[The statement of Ranking Member Owens follows:] |
|
|
|
Statement of Hon. Burgess Owens, Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Early |
|
Childhood, Elementary, and Secondary Education |
|
|
|
Ensuring all children have opportunities to achieve the American |
|
Dream must never be a partisan issue. All students--regardless of zip |
|
code or socioeconomic status--should have the freedom to attend the |
|
school that meets their unique needs, setting them up for lifelong |
|
success. |
|
I grew up in the deep South during the time of Jim Crow and the |
|
KKK. Racial segregation and inequities in education are not just |
|
chapters in a history book to me--I've lived and experienced them |
|
firsthand. I'm the child of educators--my father received his Ph.D. |
|
from The Ohio State University and taught Agronomy at Florida A&M, my |
|
mother was a middle school teacher. I was taught from a young age the |
|
importance of education and hard work. I firmly believe education is |
|
the key to unlocking our children's future of possibilities. |
|
Tragically, the COVID-19 pandemic has served as a major setback for |
|
K-12 students nationwide. The purpose of today's hearing might be to |
|
discuss educational equity post-COVID-19, but there can be no |
|
educational equity when classroom doors remain shut. |
|
Too many poor families, many of them, students of color as well as |
|
those with disabilities, have been left with no educational option |
|
other than to wait on bureaucrats to follow the science and reopen |
|
schools. The Biden administration and this Congress have failed these |
|
families. Every day, our inaction worsens the educational disparities |
|
in our communities, which over time will also contribute to widening |
|
opportunity and wealth gaps. The best way to help struggling families |
|
is |
|
to give them more freedom to make choices for their children's |
|
education, not by shutting them out of schools and closing doors to |
|
greater opportunities. |
|
While numerous states and schools have listened to the science and |
|
implemented proper safety precautions to offer students and families |
|
safe, in-person instruction, too many students are trapped in school |
|
districts that have refused to reopen, causing irreversible harm to our |
|
Nation's children. |
|
This is far from equity and we must do better. |
|
That's why House Republicans called for a bipartisan investigation |
|
into the effects school closures are having on children with |
|
disabilities. In a letter to Chairmen Clyburn, Maloney, Scott, and |
|
Pallone, my fellow Republicans wrote, 'Students with disabilities are |
|
falling behind. States and localities are not meeting even the minimal |
|
requirements? If states or localities are violating Federal civil |
|
rights laws to the detriment of students, they must be investigated, |
|
and their actions corrected.' |
|
Closed classrooms have also increased mental health problems among |
|
students. CDC data shows that mental health visits to the emergency |
|
room increased between 24 and 31 percent for children from March to |
|
October of last year. |
|
Additionally, a 2020 analysis by McKinsey and Company estimates |
|
that children of color may lose up to one year of learning compared to |
|
white students losing four to 8 months, with an average overall |
|
learning loss of nine months. |
|
These numbers are jaw-dropping. |
|
We cannot allow future generations to fall further behind while the |
|
Biden administration tiptoes around the radical demands of teachers |
|
unions. |
|
Embarrassingly, the United Teachers of Los Angeles (UTLA) demanded |
|
a host of left wing priorities such as Medicare for All, defunding the |
|
police, wealth and millionaire taxes, at least $500 billion for schools |
|
nationwide, housing security, and a charter school moratorium, as |
|
'safety' prerequisites for their in-person return to school. |
|
But rather than address this outrageous wish list which has nothing |
|
to do with reopening schools, Democrats will claim that 'we all want |
|
schools to reopen.' Their actions, or lack thereof, speak louder than |
|
their words. In addition, the Biden administration seems to change |
|
their tune daily on reopening |
|
schools. Even the Washington Post labeled their messaging a |
|
'muddled mess.' |
|
Let's follow the science. Just last week, the CDC reversed its |
|
course on six feet of social distancing, admitting that their previous |
|
guidance was politically motivated. This comes after CDC Director |
|
Walensky's statement that schools could reopen before all teachers are |
|
vaccinated, a statement that was later reversed because of pressure |
|
from teachers unions. |
|
Like the CDC, congressional Democrats are willing to bend the facts |
|
on their crusade to politicize our children's education. Democrats |
|
rammed through their so-called COVID relief bill even though this body |
|
had already allocated significantly more funding than the CDC said was |
|
necessary to safely reopen schools. Even worse, the funds appropriated |
|
through that partisan legislation have nothing to do with reopening |
|
schools this spring. |
|
The data is clear: the longer schools stay closed the further |
|
children will fall behind, particularly those in disadvantaged groups. |
|
Yet the Biden administration and Democrats continue to prioritize |
|
unions over students and politics over science. This is no way to lead |
|
our Nation through an unprecedented crisis. This is no way to chart a |
|
path toward educational equity. |
|
The science is clear. Congress provided an abundance of funding. |
|
Yet, children are still stuck learning from behind a screen, forcing |
|
our youngest and most vulnerable to overcome insurmountable barriers to |
|
success. For far too long, Congress has been bitterly divided along |
|
partisan lines. Our kids deserve better. I hope we can come together |
|
not as Republicans and Democrats, but as parents, grandparents, and |
|
patriotic Americans to put the well-being of our children first. |
|
I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today, particularly |
|
Mrs. Jennifer Dale, who will offer testimony on her experiences with |
|
harmful and lengthy school closures and how it has impacted her family. |
|
______ |
|
|
|
Chairman Sablan. Thank you very much Mr. Owens for your |
|
statement. I would just like to say that here on the ground, |
|
the CARES Act and the American Rescue Act, there's a lot of |
|
teachers to come back to 40-hour work weeks, and schools |
|
actually reopened for face to face instructions, and they're |
|
now in the process of making plans for summer schools, |
|
identifying students who need help and bringing them into |
|
summer schools, but thank you for your statement anyway. |
|
Without objection, all other Members who wish to insert |
|
written statements into the record may do so by submitting them |
|
to the Committee Clerk electronically in Microsoft Word format |
|
by 5 p.m. on May 8, 2021. |
|
I will now introduce the witnesses. Marc H. Morial, is |
|
President and CEO of the National Urban League, the Nation's |
|
largest historic civil rights and urban advocacy organization. |
|
He served as the highly successful and popular Mayor of New |
|
Orleans, as well as the President of the United States |
|
Conference of Mayors. |
|
He previously was a Louisiana State Senator and was an |
|
attorney in New Orleans. He's a living voice on the national |
|
stage in the battle for jobs, education, policy and voting |
|
right equity. He's a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania |
|
with a degree in economics and African-American studies and |
|
holds a law degree from Georgetown University. |
|
I think the livestream, the Chair has been informed that |
|
the livestream is down, and House will require that we suspend |
|
until it is back up, so we will pause momentarily. Members and |
|
witnesses should maintain the connection to the platform as the |
|
hearing will continue as soon as livestream is back up. |
|
[Suspension] |
|
I was introducing the witnesses, and I think I was just |
|
saying that Mr. Morial has also got a law degree from |
|
Georgetown University. |
|
Ms. Jennifer Dale is a mother of three school-age children |
|
and resides in Lake Oswego, Oregon. Oh, my great grandchildren |
|
live there too. In her community Miss Dale is active in |
|
volunteering with non-profits that service children of people |
|
with disabilities, including serving on the Board of Community |
|
which supports independence for people with disabilities in |
|
employment and housing. |
|
Last fall Ms. Dale formed a group with other families in |
|
the community to push for the return to in-person instructions. |
|
Her group, Clack to School named after Clackamas County, has |
|
worked with Let Them Play, Let Oregon Learn and opening PDX to |
|
become the largest coalition of families advocating to reopen |
|
schools which number 35,000 families state-wide. |
|
Selene Almazan, I hope I got that right, is the Legal |
|
Director for the Council of Parent Attorneys and Advocates, |
|
COPAA. COPAA started as a school membership and training |
|
organization for attorneys and advocated for parents to find |
|
the help they needed to fight for the rights of their children |
|
and now is nationally recognized for harnessing the strength |
|
and determination of family attorneys advocates related |
|
professional and students. |
|
Ms. Almazan has represented students with families for over |
|
30 years, and in addition to her work with COPAA, maintains a |
|
private practice focusing on student representation in special |
|
education matters, and matters involving violations of the |
|
Individuals With Disabilities Act, the Rehabilitation Act of |
|
1973. |
|
She has extensive experience training families, teachers, |
|
school administrators, attorneys and advocates on legal issues |
|
related to special education law as well as disability |
|
discrimination issues. |
|
I am pleased to recognize my colleague, Representative |
|
Frederica Wilson to briefly introduce her constituent who's |
|
appearing before us as a witness today. I yield 30 seconds to |
|
Ms. Wilson to introduce the witness please. Ms. Wilson, yes |
|
Frederica please. I think you need to unmute your microphone. I |
|
can't hear you. Can you hear me Frederica, nod if you can? |
|
Ms. Wilson. I hear you. |
|
Chairman Sablan. OK, oh now I hear you too. Let's go. |
|
Introduce your witness please. |
|
Ms. Wilson. Good afternoon. Thank you, Chairman Sablan. I |
|
am so proud to introduce my friend, 5000 Role Model Mentor and |
|
Miami-Dade County Public School Superintendent Alberto |
|
Carvalho. He is the best. And Miami-Dade County Public Schools |
|
are open for business and have been for a long time. Children |
|
attend according to parental choice. |
|
He has served as Superintendent of Miami-Dade Public |
|
Schools, the Nation's fourth largest school system since |
|
September 2008, a record of exemplary service. He is a |
|
nationally recognized expert on education, transformation, |
|
finance, and leadership development. |
|
During his tenure Miami-Dade County Public Schools has |
|
become one of the Nation's highest performing urban schools. |
|
And because of the 5,000 Role Models, black boys outperform |
|
their counterparts in other urban districts. The district has |
|
also been named as a 2014 College Board Advance Placement |
|
Equity and Excellence District of the Year, as well as the 2012 |
|
winner of the Board prize for urban education. |
|
Mr. Carvalho serves on the National Assessment Governing |
|
Board. He also serves as a committee Member of the National |
|
Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine, and as an |
|
advisory committee Member to the Harvard Program on Education, |
|
Policy and Governance. Welcome to the Education and Labor |
|
Committee Superintendent Carvalho, all the way from Miami-Dade. |
|
We're looking forward to your testimony. |
|
Thank you Mr. Chairman and I yield back. |
|
Chairman Sablan. Thank you, Ms. Wilson, and to the |
|
witnesses again welcome and good afternoon. We appreciate the |
|
witnesses that are here participating today and look forward to |
|
your testimony. Let me remind the witnesses that we have read |
|
your written statements and they will appear in full in the |
|
hearing record. Pursuant to Committee Rule 8(d) and committee |
|
practice, each of you is asked to please limit your oral |
|
presentation to a five-minute summary of the written statement. |
|
I also remind the witnesses that pursuit to Title XVIII of |
|
the United States Code, Section 1001, it is illegal to |
|
knowingly and willfully falsify any statement, representation, |
|
writing, document, or material fact presented to Congress or |
|
otherwise conceal or cover up a material fact. |
|
Before you begin your testimony, please remember to unmute |
|
your microphone. During your testimony staff will be keeping |
|
track of time and a timer will sound with staff when time is |
|
up. Please be attentive to the time, wrap up when your time is |
|
over and remute your microphone. |
|
If any of you experience technical difficulties during your |
|
testimony, or later in the hearing, you should stay connected |
|
on the platform, make sure you are muted and use your phone to |
|
immediately call the committee's IT director whose number was |
|
provided to you in advance. |
|
We will let all the witnesses make their presentations |
|
before we move to Member questions. When answering a question |
|
please remember to unmute your microphone. And I will first |
|
recognize Marc Morial please. Mr. Morial you have five minutes. |
|
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STATEMENT OF MARC H. MORIAL, JD, PRESIDENT AND CEO, NATIONAL |
|
URBAN LEAGUE |
|
|
|
Mr. Morial. Thank you very much Mr. Chairman and to Ranking |
|
Member Owens, and to each Member of the subcommittee. Thank |
|
you, it's always an honor to appear before elected |
|
representatives. I also want to acknowledge the leadership of |
|
Chairman Scott, with whom we worked for many, many years. |
|
I am President of the National Urban League. I'm also the |
|
father of three, and the son of a second-grade teacher. So, the |
|
issues that you are considering today are most important to me. |
|
The National Urban League serves children in this Nation, in 90 |
|
communities, 90 affiliates serving 300 communities, in 36 |
|
states. |
|
We provide out of time, or after school services to |
|
hundreds of thousands of young people each and every year. At |
|
the community level we are advocates. We are advocates of both |
|
excellence and equity, and have been actively involved in |
|
ensuring the successful implementation of the Every Student |
|
Succeeds Act, adopted by the Congress several years ago. |
|
And I appreciate the opportunity to share just for a moment |
|
our perspective on the path to educational equity in this |
|
COVID-19 environment. Regrettably, black and brown children |
|
have faced a disproportionate burden as a result of this |
|
pandemic. Black people are more likely to contract, be |
|
hospitalized, and die from COVID-19. |
|
Black workers are more likely to be in fields with the most |
|
lay-offs due to the pandemic. Black children are far more |
|
likely than their white counterparts to lack the internet |
|
access and the devices necessary to receive adequate, remote |
|
instruction, a term we call the homework gap. |
|
Information that we receive from communities across the |
|
Nation indicate that as many as 20 to 40 percent of children in |
|
many urban school districts have been completely cutoff from |
|
learning since the pandemic has begun. Now this is on top of |
|
the systemic inequities that we all are aware of and we're |
|
trying to solve, and this is not unique to this pandemic. |
|
Jim Crow, the language discrimination and segregation, |
|
created a long-standing second-class system of education for |
|
children in America. I am a son of the south. The schools I |
|
attended were integrated the first years that I attended those |
|
schools. Before Brown versus the Board of Education in 1954, it |
|
was not uncommon for black fourth grade students to use white, |
|
second grade hand me down textbooks. |
|
This history, coupled with the ways by which too many |
|
students of color have born the brunt of this pandemic, have |
|
resulted in black and Latino students losing an average of 10 |
|
months of instruction. |
|
Since the pandemic began and interrupted in-person teaching |
|
and learning, compared to an average of 6 months lost for |
|
instruction for white students, all of our students have lost |
|
instructional time due to this pandemic. Now I want to thank |
|
the President and the Members of the House and Senate who voted |
|
for the American Rescue Plan, which among many needed supports |
|
includes the largest Federal investment in our Nation's |
|
history. |
|
And as we look at how COVID-19 has widened opportunity |
|
gaps, it is the American Rescue Plan that provides the long |
|
overdue support needed for schools to be able to reopen safely, |
|
for schools to be able to reintroduce students to in-person |
|
instruction, and to do it in a way that is neither haphazard, |
|
nor risky, nor knee-jerk. |
|
Now those investments should support development and growth |
|
of students grounded in the principles of equity. What do I |
|
mean? Mental health supports, devices, and internet connections |
|
to close a homework gap, extended learning opportunities, |
|
rigorous course work for students of color and low-income |
|
students, diverse and qualified teachers and school leaders, |
|
restorative practices, social-emotional learning, and positive |
|
behavioral support. |
|
These are the types of things with this investment the |
|
schools of America should do in order to address the challenges |
|
and to the important goal of equity. Now to effectively |
|
leverage these resources we need a reliable measure of what our |
|
children know. |
|
State-wide assessments provide parents and caregivers with |
|
accurate information about how their students are performing on |
|
grade level standards. State-wide assessments are not a |
|
panacea. They're not a fool-proof method, but they're the best |
|
thing we have to know where our children are. I thank you for |
|
your focus on this issue and look forward to answering any |
|
questions. Thank you so much. |
|
[The prepared statement of Mr. Morial follows:] |
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Prepared Statement of Marc Morial |
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[GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] |
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Chairman Sabian. Thank you very much Mr. Morial. And I'd |
|
like now that we all hear from Ms. Jennifer Dale please, five |
|
minutes Ms. Dale, welcome. |
|
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STATEMENT OF MRS. JENNIFER DALE, PARENT |
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Mrs. Dale. Thank you. Thank you. Good afternoon, Chairman |
|
Sablan, Ranking Member Owens, and Members of the Early |
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Childhood, Elementary, and Secondary Education Committee. |
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Thanks for inviting me to testify at today's hearing, ``Lessons |
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Learned: Charting the Path to Educational Equity Post-COVID- |
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19.'' |
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I really appreciate the work you're doing and being invited |
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to testify. I am the proud and grateful parent to three school- |
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aged children. My oldest daughter Maddi is in the 7th grade, |
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and she became a teenager this past February. My youngest child |
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is Charlie, he's 8 years old and in the 2d grade. |
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My middle daughter is Lizzie, age 9 in the third grade, and |
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she has Down Syndrome. But I'd like to focus most of my |
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testimony on Lizzie, because I feel like she is a hidden victim |
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of pandemic closures and policies and the prolonged school |
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closures that have occurred. |
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Because of Lizzie and other students like her, I believe |
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that school provide essential services to our communities and |
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should have reopened in the fall of 2020. The pandemic-related |
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shutdown of our school, the co-curricular activities and the |
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youth sports caused major disruptions and destabilization for |
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our children, many of whom could bear it the very least. |
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And whether it was their intended purpose or not, America's |
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public schools from the basis of our communities and deliver |
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services and experiences that really can't be obtained anywhere |
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else. |
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For my daughter Lizzie, school is where she participates in |
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physical education and recess. It's where she receives |
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essential therapies such as speech and occupational therapy. |
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School is where Lizzie spends time with friends forming a |
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community bond, so it will ultimately lead to long-term |
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relationships and potential job opportunities for her. |
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In her IEP, her learning specialist describes Lizzie as a |
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3d grade student with a big heart, a great sense of humor, who |
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enjoys playing with friends. She's a loyal friend who stands up |
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for peers when they have been wronged or hurt. Lizzie loves to |
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laugh and giggle, and she participates in soccer and dance, and |
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can be a fierce competitor when it comes to sports. |
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In a typical year, Lizzie spends more than 80 percent of |
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her day in the general education classroom. It is a seat that |
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she has fought very hard to win and to keep. She rides our |
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neighborhood school bus. She's greeted by friends at school who |
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help walk her to class. They help her with hanging her backpack |
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and make her lunch selection. |
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Over the years being included in the classroom has enabled |
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Lizzie to learn these key routines and build a community for |
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what she is part of the essential fabric. It's this community |
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that she is loyal to. In a typical year, an educational aid |
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supports Lizzie's general education by modifying her classwork |
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and helping develop her reading and writing skills with hands |
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on supports. |
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But as you know 2020 was not a typical year. Oregon's |
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Governor rightfully shuttered school buildings last March a |
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year ago, when we knew very little about COVID-19. But then the |
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Governor's mandate kept our schools closed under metrics that |
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were so hard to meet that the only path to reopening has been |
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to change the metrics themselves, rather than meet the metrics. |
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Unfortunately, once schools closed, Lizzie's entire |
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existence seemed to vanish from sight. No one could really see |
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her but me, her father, and her siblings. No one could benefit |
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from that fierce soccer competitor, or that friend who would |
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bring you a band-aid when you are hurt. |
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No one could see my daughter Lizzie. When distance learning |
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started in September, we were provided with a Chromebook and |
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several Zoom links for a log-in to Google classroom. And like |
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her peers, Lizzie was supposed to receive all of her |
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instruction online. |
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But unlike her peers, Lizzie's learning online was not |
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possible. She's still learning sight words, learning to type on |
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a keyboard and learning to use a mouse. Lizzie's frustrations |
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maxed out very quickly, and by the third week she had actually |
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thrown away the Chromebook without us knowing and asked for a |
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faraway school with her friends, which is what she called in- |
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person learning. |
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For the last 7 months, Lizzie has not been a part of any |
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general education classroom that we fought so hard for her to |
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be in since kindergarten. She had to stop attending general |
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education classes entirely because they were all delivered |
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online. |
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Back in October I was beginning to wonder how other |
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families were doing this, so I posted my concerns online. My |
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posts formed the beginning of Oregon's grassroots back to |
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school efforts, and a launch of numerous local advocacy groups. |
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We have held rallies almost weekly, hosted Zoom town halls, and |
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initiated massive email campaigns to share our research and the |
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science on the safe reopening with school board Members, |
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superintendents, and lawmakers. |
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For 1 year Lizzie has been denied all physical, |
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occupational and speech therapies provided under her legal IEP |
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because services are telehealth only, and they continue to be |
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that way even after all educators have been vaccinated. She has |
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been denied services mandated by her IEP. |
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Maybe this was a temporary experience and hardship for |
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some, but not for Lizzie. And this week we completed the |
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paperwork to hold her back in the third grade where she'll be |
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forced to make all new friends. |
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Chairman Sablan. My goodness, such a wonderful story Ms. |
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Dale. I must however-- |
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Mrs. Dale. I understand, I understand. |
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Chairman Sablan. I want to continue. |
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Mrs. Dale. I will be grateful to answer any questions when |
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you're ready. |
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Chairman Sablan. All right. Thank you, Ms. Dale, thank you |
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very much. |
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[The prepared statement of Mrs. Jennifer Dale follows:] |
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Chairman Sablan. And next we'll hear from Selene Almazan, I |
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hope I do justice with that name. Ms. Almazan you have five |
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minutes please. |
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STATEMENT OF SELENE A. ALMAZAN, ESQ., LEGAL DIRECTOR, COUNCIL |
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OF PARENT ATTORNEYS AND ADVOCATES, INC. |
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Ms. Almazan. Thank you. Good afternoon, Chairman Scott, |
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Chairman Sablan, Ranking Member Foxx, Ranking Member Owens, and |
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Members of the subcommittee. I am Selene Almazan, legal |
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director for the Council of Parent Attorneys and Advocates, |
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COPAA, and I am also a parent. |
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Two of my three children have disabilities and attended |
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Maryland public schools. On behalf of COPAA I appreciate the |
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opportunity to testify today. |
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COPAA is a national nonprofit organization of parents, |
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attorneys, advocates, and related professionals who work to |
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protect the civil rights and secure excellence in education on |
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behalf of the 7.7 million children eligible for special |
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education under the Individuals With Disabilities Education |
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Act, IDEA, and the 1.4 million students with disabilities |
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protected by Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act. |
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I want to start with what equity is and why it matters. |
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Equity and equality are not the same. While equality means |
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treating every student the same, equity means making sure that |
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every student has the support they need to be successful. |
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Equity and education require putting systems in place to ensure |
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that every child has an equal chance for success. |
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Our education and disability laws are civil rights laws, |
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and you can see my written testimony for a full discussion of |
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each. The IDEA was enacted in 1975 and it is a civil rights and |
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access law which governs how states in U.S. territories provide |
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early intervention and special education to eligible children |
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from birth to age 21. |
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Section 5.04 prohibits discrimination and ensures equal |
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access to an education for individuals with disabilities. The |
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Americans With Disabilities Act is also critical to people and |
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students with disabilities. The Elementary and Secondary |
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Education Act, ESEA, promotes educational achievement and |
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protects the interests of students, disadvantaged by poverty, |
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disability, ethnicity, race, and other conditions that may |
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limit occupational opportunity. |
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A few datapoints provide understanding of who children with |
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disabilities are, and the statute of State funding to educate |
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them. Students with disabilities represent 14 percent of public |
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school enrollment. 74 percent of 4th grade students with |
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disabilities scored below basic in reading in 2019, compared |
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with 29 percent of students without disabilities. |
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Black students with disabilities represent 18 percent of |
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students with disabilities, yet account for 35 percent of |
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students with disabilities who are suspended or expelled from |
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school. Congress has never come close to providing the IDEA |
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funding promised to States. |
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And States offset billions annually, details are in my |
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written testimony. The COVID-19 outbreak has placed a |
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tremendous, unprecedented strain on States, districts, |
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educators, families, and students. In spring 2020 you and other |
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congressional champions helped ensure that Congress did not |
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provide States the ability to waive the requirements and |
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protections of the IDEA. Thank you. |
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This action, combined with guidance from the department |
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reminding States and districts of their obligations to provide |
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students with disabilities in education, helped steer several |
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misguided districts, and a handful of states back into |
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compliance. We do not believe however, that sufficient guidance |
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has been provided on the issue of parents opting their children |
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out of in-person schooling, as was done during the H1N1 virus. |
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Students may be medically fragile, live with a loved one |
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who is, or have an intellectual disability that interferes with |
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their ability to keep COVID-19 safety guidelines. No student |
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should be deprived of IDEA services because the student's |
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family or physician does not think it is safe to return to |
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school. |
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COPAA formally asked the department to provide clarifying |
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guidance last summer. This February, with 40 civil rights, |
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disability, business, and educational organizations, COPAA |
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thanked the department for the decision to uphold the ESEA and |
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require States to conduct state-wide, annual assessments. |
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We said, 'Data on multiple measures are essential tools to |
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address systemic inequities in our education system as well as |
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to gauge the quality of instruction and support offered under |
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COVID-19 restrictions.'' |
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To ensure equity and support of America's students we make |
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the following recommendations: Fully fund the IDEA and Title I |
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of the ESEA and provide funds to help eliminate the shortages |
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of counselors, social workers, nurses, school psychologists and |
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well-trained fully certified special education teachers. |
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Provide oversight, so COVID-19 stimulus K to 12 funding |
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includes and will also address the learning loss of students |
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with disabilities. Support the department to help States |
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administer summative state-wide assessments. Pass bills |
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dedicated to improving school climate, and end the use of |
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exclusionary discipline, including seclusion and restraint such |
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as the Keeping All Students Safe Act, and provide oversight to |
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ensure the department is equipped to enforce the equity in IDEA |
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regulations. |
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We must ensure that all students impacted by COVID-19 |
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because of disability, race, ethnicity, foster care status, |
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homelessness, and poverty, are given resources to recover |
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learning losses and ensure equity for all. I look forward to |
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your questions, thank you. |
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[The prepared statement of Ms. Selene A. Almazan, Esq., |
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follows:] |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you. Thank you very much Miss. |
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And finally, we'll get to hear from Mr. Alberto M. |
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Carvalho. Please sir you have five minutes. |
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STATEMENT OF ALBERTO M. CARVALHO, SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, |
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MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS |
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Mr. Carvalho. Thank you very much Chairman Sablan, Ranking |
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Member Owens, and Members of the subcommittee. Thank you for |
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the invitation to participate in this important hearing. A |
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special salutation to my dearly beloved Congresswoman Wilson. |
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I am proud to say that Miami-Dade is one of the highest |
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performing urban school systems in the Nation. We educate over |
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340,000 students each year, 93 percent of whom are minority and |
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over 70 percent poor. However, our students regularly perform |
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as well or better than their peers in nearly every academic |
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measure and have achieved the graduation rate of over 93 |
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percent during the pandemic. |
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The recent unprecedented Federal investments in education |
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truly represent the potential to address long-term issues of |
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academic equity in America. As our Nation moves to reopen |
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schools, and I believe strongly that schools should and can |
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open safely with the proper protocols in place, great care must |
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be taken to address the needs of our most fragile children, |
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children who are in poverty, children of color, children who |
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are English language learners, and children with disabilities. |
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We must move quickly, swiftly, and courageously to address the |
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learning loss that students have experienced because of the |
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disruptions to instruction created by this pandemic. |
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In our district, we have been transforming education and |
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improving outcomes for all for well over a decade. And we did |
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it by teaching and measuring what mattered and using the data |
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to shine light into the dark gaps and places and drive |
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improvement. We began with our youngest students creating high- |
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quality, full day pre-K programs. |
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And then we looked to our secondary schools and found that |
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opportunities were not always equal. So, we ensured that |
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rigorous course offerings were available at every high and |
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middle school, including AP courses, dual enrollment, |
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Cambridge, and opportunities for acceleration for all. |
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We reinvigorated art, music and world languages, career |
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technical education because all children have a right to an |
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education that not only expands the mind, but also feeds the |
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soul. We also implemented a tiered approach to providing the |
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schools the supports they need, particularly those in greatest |
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need, driving resources and wrap around services in a |
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differentiated way to our most fragile and struggling schools |
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and students. |
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And then finally, in 2012 we launched a digital initiative |
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designed to integrate technology into all classrooms, to unlock |
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the potential of digital content, empowering students and |
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teachers as never before with individualized instruction. In |
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essence, we eliminated the digital divide. |
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The result was a stunning improvement in graduation rates |
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of over 30 percent, and an elimination of F rated schools in |
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our district. All this work helped us prepare to rapidly |
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respond to the unprecedented impact of COVID-19 in our school. |
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On March 13, 2020, in-person schooling came to a halt, and we |
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quickly pivoted to an online learning model. |
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We deployed 120,000 devices, more than 10,000 hotspots for |
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connectivity, provided more than 30 professional development |
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offerings to teachers to help support the transition to |
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distance learning. Through constant communication and personal |
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outreach to families, we achieved an impressive 93 percent |
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average daily attendance rate during the school shutdown. |
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When we returned for the start of the 2021 school year, we |
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briefly did what other districts across the country did. We |
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opened 100 percent online, but with a plan, and an eye toward |
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opening the schoolhouses soon as it could be done safely. We |
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assembled a task force of public health and medical experts, |
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including U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy. |
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We sought guidance and recommendations for safely returning |
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to in-person school. Under the guidance and leadership provided |
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by our own school board, all facilities were sanitized, |
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ventilation systems were improved, personal protective |
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equipment distributed to all employees. |
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Schools were reconfigured with single directional hallways, |
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social distancing in classrooms following the World Health |
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Organization of one meter which is three feet three inches. A |
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mandatory mask policy was implemented, and medical personnel |
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deployed to all schools. |
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We also arranged for the distribution of infrared |
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thermometers to all families, developed an employee health |
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screening app, and launched a public facing COVID-19 dashboard, |
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successfully partnered with our various employee organizations, |
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and agreed to protocols, workplace conditions, and |
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accommodations. |
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And on October 5, 2020, Miami-Dade County schools returned |
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to in-person instruction 5 days a week at all schools for all |
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students who wanted to return. We currently have about 50 |
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percent of our students physically attending schools while the |
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balance has chosen to remain online. |
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This is in a district where we value choice. 74 percent of |
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our students attend non-traditional programs. As I close, we |
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have found that we have been able to navigate reopening safely, |
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and that all schools have actually been safer than the |
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community at large in terms of viral transmission. |
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Schools have always been and remain a safe haven for many |
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who do not have a supportive home environment, who may be |
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alone, who many be abused or neglected. We know there is work |
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ahead to address the trauma and learning loss experienced by |
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these children caught up in this crisis. The infusion of |
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funding provided by the Federal Government is critical to |
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meeting all these needs, but all involved must be diligent and |
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responsible in the deployment of these dollars. |
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These timely Federal investments must be used in a manner |
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that ensures improved academic achievement, operational |
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efficiency, and fiscal responsibility. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you. Thank you very much Mr. |
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Carvalho. It just breaks my heart that I have to interrupt all |
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our witnesses who have great ideas, so I need to do so. And so, |
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we now turn to our Member questions. |
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Under Committee Rule 9(a), we will now question witnesses |
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under the five-minute rule. So, I will be recognizing |
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subcommittee Members in seniority order. |
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And again, to ensure that the Members' five-minute rule is |
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adhered to, staff will be keeping track of time and the timer |
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will sound when time has expired. Please be attentive to the |
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time. Wrap up when your time is over and remute your |
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microphone. |
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I will begin with myself, and as chairman, I will now |
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recognize myself for five minutes. |
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On the CARES Act, the Coronavirus Aid, Relief Supplemental |
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Corporations Act, and the American Rescue Plan, collectively |
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appropriated nearly 200 billion dollars in grant aid to public |
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schools across the country and allocated these funds by a Title |
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I formula to ensure funds are targeted to where they are most |
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needed. |
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I know here in my district far away in the Northern Mariana |
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where it is said that if I dig straight down I would land up in |
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Florida somewhere, but we were able to bring teachers where |
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reduced hours, 32 hours a week, but we are able now to bring |
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them back 40-hour weeks and start face to face instructions as |
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well. |
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But Superintendent Carvalho, why is it important that these |
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funds from this Coronavirus aid package, why is it important |
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that these funds were allocated primarily to high poverty |
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schools like my district for example? |
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Mr. Carvalho. Well Mr. Chairman for the reasons that you |
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addressed, obviously as believers in equitable practices we |
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recognize that not every child, not every school is facing the |
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same challenges. And with varying levels of challenge the |
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funding needs to in a differentiated way be appropriated and |
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delivered to directly support the needs of students and schools |
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that face the greatest gaps. |
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And in our district, a district that is over 90 percent |
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minority with a significant number of English language |
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learners, where 11-12 percent of our children have one or more |
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disability. We know where the need is. So, the distribution of |
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funding following a Title I methodology is appropriate because |
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it begins with a recognition where the greatest need is. |
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And in our district obviously we have earmarked and |
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designated those dollars, and we have already spent 70 percent |
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of the first ESSER allocation. We have designated and |
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appropriated these dollars in what makes sense. |
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Look, we know that addressing the health and safety of our |
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students and workforce, addressing academic acceleration, |
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simultaneously providing social emotional support, all in |
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unrecurring investments must be leaders in our consideration. |
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Enhanced summer programming, extended day, week, or year, after |
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school tutorial programs, and the improvements to the physical |
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facilities which have deteriorated over time, particularly in |
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the poorest communities. |
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So, the HVAC system replacements, the sanitization upgrades |
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to maintain good indoor air quality, all of those were |
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necessary investments, and those investments must begin with |
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the children of America who were in crisis before the COVID-19 |
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crisis began. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you, Mr. Carvalho. Actually, you |
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answered my second question as well, so I'm going to now turn |
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to Ms. Almazan. Ms. Almazan in light of the challenges that |
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students with disabilities face during the pandemic, it's |
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enough that they face these challenges, even pre-pandemic. |
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In the additional funds provided by the American Recovery |
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Rescue Plan, what are steps the schools can take now to ensure |
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that all eligible students receive a free appropriate public |
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education, even the need for appropriate COVID-19 precautions? |
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Ms. Almazan. Thank you for the question, Chairman Sablan. |
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The issue of free appropriate public education for students |
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with disabilities remains the requirement and a commitment that |
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all school districts and states have to comply with. |
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There have been no waivers during this time of the school |
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closures. The question that's weighing heavily right now on |
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many school districts and States is the idea of how we are |
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going to make up for the learning loss that students suffered |
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and the denial of a free appropriate public education because |
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they did not get all of the services that are listed in their |
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individualized education program, their IEP during that time. |
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And central to that, you know, we do believe is the issue |
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of end of the year assessments. You know with the leadership of |
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the Urban League, we agree that the end of year assessments, |
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particularly in reading and math are going to inform the |
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conversation of what kinds of compensatory education services |
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students are going to need. |
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Compensatory education is an equitable remedy, not to get |
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too much into the weeds, but it's an equitable remedy that is |
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formed by courts to place a child with a disability in the |
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position that they would have been in except for the denial, |
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the educational loss, and not receiving all the services that |
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they were supposed to receive, particularly during COVID-19. |
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Chairman Sablan. OK. All right. I must cut you off, my time |
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is up, but thank you for. I also once chaired the State |
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Rehabilitation Advisory Council and have some idea of the IEP |
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standard for students, particularly. My son is a teacher, so I |
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do get first-hand experience, but thank you very much. |
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I will now yield to the Ranking Member of the Full |
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Committee Dr. Foxx for five minutes of your question please, |
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Dr. Foxx. |
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Ms. Foxx. Thank you, Chairman Sablan. I want to thank all |
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of the witnesses for being with us today. You've presented some |
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interesting things I'd like to comment on later if I can. Mrs. |
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Dale thank you for your testimony and thank you for fighting |
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for Lizzie and all the children in Oregon. |
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Your story is inspiring. One thing we've heard over and |
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over again from teachers? unions and others who have fought |
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against families like yours, to keep schools closed, is it |
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simply isn't safe to reopen. Even the Biden Administration CDC |
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has said that reopening most schools to most students is |
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unsafe. |
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In your written testimony you made reference to sharing |
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research on safe re-openings with State and local leaders. Do |
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you believe that science indicates that schools can reopen |
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safely? And how did those States and local leaders respond to |
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that science? |
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Mrs. Dale. Thank you for your question, Dr. Foxx. I over |
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the last, since September we've seen studies and the groups |
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that I've been a part of have worked really hard to review the |
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different information from the CDC, from the WHO, from American |
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Academy of Pediatrics, in helping to inform, you know, whether |
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or not it's safe to return. |
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A lot of--Emily Oster and a study out of North Carolina, |
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several studies came out to indicate that you know there was a |
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safe way to return to school, and we know that there's a safe |
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way to do that by wearing masks, and social distancing. So |
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those are the kinds of things that we have written to our local |
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lawmakers and to decisionmakers here, like the Oregon |
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Department of Education to say this is how other schools are |
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safely reopening, and can we do this here in Oregon? |
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But their response generally was we've got to wait for case |
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rates to come down, or we need to wait for the vaccine, and it |
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felt like a lot of those goalposts sort of kept moving, and |
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kept moving, and kept changing even though we were able to see |
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schools in other countries and schools in other locations open. |
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Ms. Foxx. Yes, and it's interesting to me that you're in |
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one of the most political states in the country, and all these |
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people profess that they care about children. Everybody on this |
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panel, all the witnesses care about children. They've been |
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given billions of dollars, and yet they won't open the schools. |
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It's the worst hypocrisy I've ever seen. You also said in |
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your testimony you plan to have Lizzie repeat third grade. And |
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I heard what you said. She has to make a whole new set of |
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friends. That's difficult for any child, any child. Can you |
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tell us more about what led you to that decision, and if you |
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think that decision would have been necessary if the schools |
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had reopened when it was safe to do so? |
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Mrs. Dale. We definitely wouldn't be having this |
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conversation if the schools had reopened in September, and |
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Lizzie had been able to join her cohort of friends that she has |
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built actually since pre-kindergarten. |
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And the reason that we're having to make that decision now |
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is that you know the online platform for schools is really a |
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one size fits all. And I think some students have you know |
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we've heard stories here in Oregon and elsewhere that some |
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students have fared OK in that platform. |
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But many haven't and you know, over 80 percent of the kids |
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here want to go back to in-person learning, and their families |
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want to get those kids back to in-person learning. For Lizzie, |
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I spent mornings with my arms literally wrapped around her |
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stomach trying to keep her in front of a screen, and there was |
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a teacher, an aide, and a learning specialist on the other side |
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of the screen trying to help Lizzie with counting, and with |
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writing and reading. |
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It isn't just it was a platform that was impossible. And |
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so, we could either choose to spend our mornings in tears for |
|
two and a half hours, trying to learn over that platform, you |
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know, with a child who didn't understand why her teacher had |
|
her muted, or why the other kids wouldn't wave to her and say |
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hello, or we could--we just didn't have a choice. |
|
I mean we couldn't just keep her staying you know involved |
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and engaged in that platform. And I think that was for us what |
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felt very overlooked in the guidance that was released about |
|
learning online is that children with cognitive disabilities, |
|
they're motivated by their peers. |
|
They're assisted by their peers in learning. And when that |
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isn't there online, their learning just doesn't happen. And so, |
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she has 7 months of no general education. |
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Ms. Foxx. You have a great civil rights case on your hands |
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based on the legislation of IDEA, based on the comments one of |
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the other witnesses said. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you, thank you Dr. Foxx. |
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Ms. Foxx. Thank you, Chairman Sablan, thank you so much |
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Mrs. Dale for being such a great model. |
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Chairman Sablan. Right, Ms. Dale thank you. Some of your |
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statements are personal experiences that are just incredible. I |
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hope we are going to eventually open up so I could come and |
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visit my grand and my great grandkids also, so thank you. |
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Next, I'd like to recognize Mr. Yarmuth. Mr. Yarmuth you |
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have five minutes sir. |
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Mr. Yarmuth. Well, thank you very much Mr. Chairman, and |
|
thanks to all the witnesses for their contributions today. I |
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want to start by referencing something Mr. Owens said in his |
|
opening statement, and Mr. Owens I wanted to let you know that |
|
I was a New York Jets fan when you were playing for them. |
|
I was also a registered Republican at the time, so I'm not |
|
sure what that says about either the Jets or the party. But I'm |
|
really concerned about this notion that the Democrats are |
|
somehow unconcerned about IDEA, and the students that are |
|
served through that program. |
|
Both President Biden, and I know Speaker Pelosi and many |
|
others have said show me your budget and I'll understand your |
|
values. And I think that's very true. And in the American |
|
rescue plan we committed 3 billion dollars to IDEA, along with |
|
130 billion dollars for education overall, much of which can be |
|
used to support students with disabilities as well. |
|
So, I think it's kind of disingenuous to question |
|
Democrat's commitment to IDEA when every Republican voted |
|
against that proposal, and not only voted against it, but I |
|
don't remember I was present for most of the debates, never one |
|
time saying that any portion of the American Rescue Plan was |
|
worth supporting. |
|
So, I'm certainly, I think we always ought to oversee in |
|
Congress, any of the programs that we mandate. So, I'm not |
|
necessarily saying we shouldn't again take care that our money |
|
is being spent wisely and effectively, but again the hypocrisy |
|
here is pretty astounding. |
|
And I also have to take issue with this weaponization of |
|
the idea of opening the schools. And I've heard it day after |
|
day after day for the last couple of months. The Republicans |
|
want States and localities to have control over things when it |
|
serves their political purposes, but when it doesn't, then all |
|
of a sudden, they want the government to mandate what the |
|
opened. |
|
I was in a conversation last week with a superintendent of |
|
the Fleming County Kentucky School System. Fleming County, |
|
Kentucky is in the eastern part of the State, not in my |
|
district. It voted for Donald Trump 78 to 21, so it's certainly |
|
not a blue area. Their school system has 2,200 students. The |
|
superintendent, they opened school partially, I shouldn't say |
|
partially, on a voluntary basis last September, so before there |
|
was any CDC guidance on what was safe, and what wasn't safe. |
|
They're still open now. About half of their students |
|
systemwide are actually attending in person. Those parents, |
|
those families made their decisions which I always thought was |
|
what Republicans thought was the appropriate thing to do. |
|
This is a very complicated situation. We're all very much |
|
in uncharted territory and have been for a year now. So, I |
|
really resent all of this politicization that the notion that |
|
once again now because Democrats are in charge, we have to make |
|
everybody open schools. |
|
When even when Donald Trump was in charge, that we ought to |
|
open all schools. I don't think that's the way this country |
|
works, and our families work. I do have one question I want to |
|
ask of Superintendent Carvalho. I don't know how much your |
|
school system is going to get, but I know based on what my |
|
school system is going to get, it's a lot of money. |
|
And one of the things that we were criticized for |
|
throughout this debate was a very small percentage of this |
|
money is going to be spent this year, this year meaning over |
|
the next 6 months. As you contemplate using the funding that we |
|
provided to the American Rescue Plan to the Miami-Dade schools, |
|
where do you perceive the need being today versus next year or |
|
the year after, and things that you may do with that money |
|
during that period of time. |
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Chairman Sablan. I have 39 seconds for that Mr. Carvalho. |
|
Mr. Carvalho. I'll be very quick. Thank you very much for |
|
the question. Certainly look, we're going to bucket into three |
|
areas. No. 1, continue to improve the environment of schools, |
|
sanitization, additional equipment, indoor quality |
|
improvements, capital projects. |
|
Second, acceleration strategies to ensure that those who |
|
fell behind are able to catch up, not only to where they were |
|
prior to the crisis, but actually to their place, where they |
|
should be in accordance with their chronological age and grade |
|
level. This is not only about taking them to where they were |
|
prior to the COVID crisis. |
|
And that's going to require massive amounts of investment. |
|
And before and after school programming, year around schooling, |
|
summer schooling, before and after programming, individual |
|
tutorial programs and individualized digital content to support |
|
them pedagogically as well as socially and emotionally. That's |
|
where the brunt of the investment is going to go. |
|
Mr. Yarmuth. So, by definition that has to be done over |
|
time. |
|
Mr. Carvalho. It will take some time. This is not going to |
|
necessarily be a sprint, but at the same time the more we wait, |
|
the more children will fall behind so it will be very swift |
|
based on the plans that we already have in place. |
|
Chairman Sablan. Thank you. Thank you. And if it weren't |
|
for Mr. Yarmuth if it wasn't for your work in the American |
|
Rescue Plan, my schools would not be open for face-to-face |
|
instructions, and my teachers will still be going on 32 hours a |
|
week paid, so thank you, thank you. At this time, I recognize |
|
the Ranking Member of the subcommittee Mr. Owens. I had no idea |
|
you were a professional football player. |
|
Mr. Owens. Thank you, thank you so much and I'll say for |
|
those still rooting for the Jets I tip my hat and I'm sorry to |
|
hear about the misery they were going through the last few |
|
years. Anyway, that being said, let me just say this. You know |
|
we just put another 130 billion dollars on this last bill. We |
|
already had money in there before, to make sure that our |
|
schools opened. |
|
We haven't done nothing to spend. So, I think the question |
|
comes down to look at states like Utah. Utah, we opened up |
|
pretty quickly. We gave the power to the people to decide how |
|
we wanted to make sure that we can--businesses opened up, |
|
schools open. So, one of the leaders in the country as far as |
|
our economy coming back. |
|
But I'm talking with kids in their schools every single |
|
day. And the problem is this. Across our country parents are |
|
the same. Our children are the same. We want to make sure that |
|
our kids are moving forward. So yes, you're right. We have to |
|
deal with the fact that there are different ways of approaching |
|
this. |
|
It appears that the democratic states are the ones that are |
|
shutting things down. We have issues like this where our kids |
|
are literally, and those that are hurt the most are those at |
|
risk, those that are poor, and those are the ones that we are |
|
now fighting for. There should never be a process in which |
|
across our country we have such a disparity in terms of how |
|
we're dealing with something that is common between all of us. |
|
So that being said, I want to say first of all to Mrs. |
|
Dale, thank you so much. There are no stronger advocates for |
|
children than their parents, and you truly are showing America |
|
what that looks like. We don't sit back and wait for others. We |
|
roll up our sleeves and go to work. |
|
And thank you so much. You're old school parents, and there |
|
are a lot of parents across this country trying to figure out |
|
how they can do the same, so you're a great example for us. |
|
Mrs. Dale, again, thanks for sharing your story. Ranking Member |
|
Foxx asked what was learned about risk of reopening schools. |
|
We know from the science that reopening schools is safe. We |
|
also know that it's not 100 percent risk free. Nothing in life |
|
is. Why would you say that whatever risks exists in sending |
|
your daughter back to school was with it, or do you think that |
|
it was well worth it to have to take some risk to make that |
|
happen? |
|
Mrs. Dale. Yes. Thank you for the question Ranking Member. |
|
It's a true honor you know to advocate for my daughter in this |
|
manner and in this light. Because I feel like you know she |
|
doesn't have a voice always. And the risks, there's always a |
|
tradeoff. There's always some costs and benefits to the things |
|
that we do. My daughter with Downs Syndrome, I think you might |
|
know this. |
|
If you have a cognitive disability, or developmental |
|
disability, you're generally in the 1-A group for example. No |
|
side effects, and if you get COVID-19 it does hit harder and it |
|
is more severe. But you know, the other side of that is having |
|
a disability, whether it's physical, whether it's a cognitive |
|
disability, it can be very isolating, it can be very lonely. |
|
And for us the tradeoff was you know we saw her here at |
|
home very lonely, very isolated, not learning, not able to get |
|
onto a Google classroom and see friends and see peers each day. |
|
And that's just no way to live. There's no way to live a day or |
|
a year, or a week, or anything like that. |
|
And so, what we really did as we went to work with the |
|
school, and said you know we know that masking, and we know |
|
that distancing works, and can you work with us to at least |
|
give her a couple of hours in person education? We can do some |
|
worksheets. I mean we worked really hard with the school to |
|
find some way of getting those doors back open. |
|
In fact, she was the first person in her school district to |
|
return to school. And the tradeoff for us was just that living |
|
as isolated and lonely as that was, was just never going to be |
|
sustainable for our daughter and for our family. It's very sad, |
|
very sad. |
|
Mr. Owens. Being raised by teachers myself I understand |
|
that. And let me say this. Your concerns you have, what you're |
|
going through has absolutely nothing to do with Medicare for |
|
all, defunding the police, wealth, and meeting your tax, 500 |
|
billion dollars in school State loss nation-wide, housing |
|
security and a charter school moratorium. |
|
And these are the things that would be demanded by our |
|
teachers? union so that young people, children like yours can |
|
actually go back to school. It should never, ever, come to that |
|
point, but we've been held hostage. For these types of things, |
|
it has nothing to do with our kids growing up and expressing |
|
the American dream and their future. |
|
So, I want to thank you for that. I won't have time for |
|
another question, so I'm going to yield back, but thank you for |
|
everything you're doing. Really, really proud of you on this |
|
issue. |
|
Mrs. Dale. Thank you for having me. |
|
Chairman Sablan. Yes, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Owens. So |
|
next I'd like to recognize Ms. Wilson. Ms. Wilson you have five |
|
minutes please. |
|
Ms. Wilson. Thank you, Mr. Chair. |
|
Chairman Sablan. All right Federica. |
|
Ms. Wilson. I just have to say to everyone, just be aware |
|
that we are in the middle of a pandemic. This is a health |
|
emergency that no one could ever, ever predict. And the one |
|
group of people who kept our children afloat were our teachers, |
|
because all schools had to shut down. And I've seen so many |
|
parents who have said to me now I respect the job of a teacher, |
|
and I will never again vote or try to advocate for anything but |
|
a raise for teachers, because they kept the boat afloat. |
|
So, this whole pandemic has caused us to be able to peel |
|
back the layers I would say, on an onion, and we see so much |
|
disparities as we peel back the onion. I had one little boy say |
|
to me, I said I need you to take a picture for the newspaper, |
|
but I want you to sit at a desk. Sit at a table, in a chair, |
|
with a blank wall. |
|
He said, ``Ms. Wilson, we don't have a table.'' I said you |
|
don't have a table in the whole house. Where do you eat? He |
|
said, ``We eat at the kitchen counter in shifts.'' So, I want |
|
to say that the money that was sent to the school districts, |
|
not only do we need to worry about what our superintendents are |
|
doing to make our schools safe, which is what they have done. |
|
My school superintendent has done it. My neighboring |
|
schools superintendents have done it. Mr. Scott and I held |
|
briefings with teachers in Miami-Dade, Broward, and Alabama. |
|
And the disparities that we saw between those school districts. |
|
And Broward and Dade I can say I'm proud, Alabama. |
|
So not only do we need--I want school districts across the |
|
Nation, including the two that I represent, to commit to using |
|
the Title I formulated money to give every Title I children a |
|
computer, a desk, and a Chair to take home in their homes |
|
because homework will not disappear. And broadband access will |
|
not disappear. And just having a quiet place to do your |
|
homework and everything else is so important, and I'm sure our |
|
superintendent and our parents and everyone else on this call |
|
agrees. |
|
I just want to say tutoring--and we have all agreed, and |
|
our Superintendent Carvalho has said that summer school, we |
|
have the summer slide, we have the COVID slide, the COVID-19 |
|
slide, and now the children just call it the 19. So that slide |
|
we have to close that achievement gap back, has exacerbated |
|
what we have seen for generations. |
|
And all of the money that Democrats put in a bill that was |
|
not supported by one Republican, and my school district got one |
|
billion dollars. We expect to see a huge change and everyone, |
|
not only teachers and school districts, but the community has |
|
to work together to pull these children up. |
|
I want to say that I heard Mr. Morial, how can these short- |
|
term resources be used to create the long-term systemic changes |
|
necessary to provide all students with equitable access to an |
|
excellent education. You talked about it in your remarks. |
|
Mr. Morial. Yes, thank you very much. We've got to |
|
understand that Congress is to be commended for appropriating |
|
the additional money, but one of the equity issues that |
|
American schools face has been a severe resource gap, |
|
differential investments in schools with inner school district |
|
differential investments within schools from county to county, |
|
or district to district in a given State. |
|
I think that each school district and the Miami |
|
Superintendent outlined his thought process, has to |
|
intelligently employ this additional money around proven |
|
strategies--evidence-based strategies. It may be reading |
|
coaches. It may be accelerated learning in the summertime. |
|
It may be to provide every child with a Chromebook so that |
|
they can go home and even if they're in class, they're going to |
|
be doing homework, to provide those students with the resources |
|
that they need to be able to play catchup. We're going to be |
|
playing catchup. |
|
What I do hope is that this investment would demonstrate |
|
why closing the resource gap amongst American public schools |
|
has to be the work not only of the Congress, but of the States |
|
and local schools districts because that's one of the |
|
fundamental issues that we face. |
|
Chairman Sablan. Thank you very much. Ms. Wilson thank you |
|
very much. There was just an education summit just yesterday I |
|
think, and there is no disagreement among everyone that we need |
|
to get schools open, but there was also no disagreement among |
|
all the participants that we have to do it in a safe manner, |
|
that we're still reaching out in the dark in this pandemic, and |
|
it's dangerous because somebody could infect somebody, and you |
|
know we're talking here about not yourself, but we're talking |
|
about lives. |
|
And so, we need to do this in a safe manner, and there's no |
|
disagreement just like we all want to go back into the |
|
committee room, we all want our children in schools, our |
|
students back to school. Some may do it faster, more quicker, |
|
some may take a little bit of time. We will get there, it takes |
|
work. And of course, it takes the resources that we just |
|
appropriated that nobody on the other side of the aisle |
|
supported but thank you. |
|
I now will recognize Mr. Grothman, please sir you have five |
|
minutes sir. |
|
Mr. Grothman. OK. I want to get through three quick |
|
questions here. The first question I am asking, in my area, |
|
there are several private schools, maybe Catholic schools, |
|
Christian schools, Lutheran schools what have you. They almost |
|
all seem to be open, and at least some of the larger public |
|
schools are closed. |
|
Can anybody give me, any one of the four of you give me a |
|
reason as to why it seems that the private schools seem to stay |
|
open in disproportion to the public schools closed? Does |
|
anybody want to take a shot at that? |
|
Mr. Carvalho. To the Chairman, I can tell as superintendent |
|
of the fourth largest school system in America we have had 100 |
|
percent of our schools open on the basis of parental choice, |
|
since early October. |
|
I can tell you that about 50 percent of the students in |
|
Miami-Dade attend school in a physical way. I can tell you also |
|
that we were very diligent in establishing all the protocols |
|
and the mitigating strategies, and the policies established by |
|
the board for the safe return of the students, and we were also |
|
diligent in the appropriate conversations with labor |
|
organizations for the workforce. |
|
Mr. Grothman. I know you were. The question is why were |
|
others not open? |
|
Mr. Carvalho. Well, I can tell you that we live in a time |
|
of high positivity rate in Miami-Dade. I think our |
|
instructional continuity plan and level of preparedness put us |
|
in a position of following science. And the science does put us |
|
in a position of being able to open schools. |
|
Mrs. Dale. I can comment too as Congressman Grothman, I had |
|
to switch two of my children to private schools, so my daughter |
|
Lizzie with the disability remains in public school, and she's |
|
getting the fewest instructional hours out of any of my three |
|
children being in public school. |
|
And my two children who have moved over to private school |
|
are now in full-time, in-person, and the challenge that we're |
|
facing right now with my daughter Lizzie receiving services is |
|
that there's in the contract for the teachers to come back to |
|
work, is a work from home condition, that has been--they've |
|
been unable to renegotiate. |
|
So, I think that's been one of the biggest problems in our |
|
areas. |
|
Mr. Grothman. Thank you, thank you. But it kind of |
|
surprised me because I think the public schools usually have |
|
more money, so it's a little bit surprising. Next question I |
|
have, I was looking at some of the money going out to Milwaukee |
|
and our poorer district, Milwaukee is getting funding, 63 |
|
percent of their normal budget is coming in from the feds, |
|
whereas it looks like your average school district, Wisconsin |
|
10-15 percent, not even as much. |
|
I realize there's a feeling out there that we have to give |
|
more money to the school districts with more kids in poverty. |
|
And of course, Milwaukee and Wisconsin already start by |
|
spending more money in the average district because, you know, |
|
we drain money across the more middle-class districts to fund |
|
Milwaukee. |
|
But 63 percent compared to like 7 percent, 10 percent with |
|
the other schools, does that sound to you is a little excessive |
|
of a difference? Are we going overboard in flooding money at |
|
the more Title I districts? |
|
Mr. Morial. Let me ask. No, not at all because the money is |
|
needed because of systemic inequities. When you talk about what |
|
do need should be the guide. And many of our urban school |
|
districts have been underfunded, and because they are, in urban |
|
areas |
|
Mr. Grothman. I need to cut you off. |
|
Mr. Morial. Please don't cut me off. Please don't cut me |
|
off. You asked me a question. I want to answer the question. |
|
And so, my point is, is that it's more than justified. The |
|
Title I formula was established in the 1960's and the |
|
additional funding that Congress appropriated following the |
|
Title I formula which is based on need. |
|
Mr. Grothman. OK thank you. Final question. I noticed when |
|
you talk about your school districts, not just you, but |
|
everybody. We seem to talk about race, or we talk about |
|
poverty, and I sometimes think family structure maybe is more |
|
important than those. Can you tell me why the education |
|
establishment lays out what type of students we have? |
|
We focus on people's ancestry you know, eight or nine |
|
generations ago, or we focus on money, but we don't focus |
|
around family structure. Would it be helpful if we also went to |
|
those statistics? Maybe I'll ask the guy from Miami-Dade that |
|
question. |
|
Mr. Carvalho. Thank you, the guy from Miami-Dade is ready. |
|
Sir, I think that No. 1 a lot of the gaps, academic gaps that |
|
we deal with are proceeded by all sorts of social gaps, whether |
|
it's home insecurity, family instability, a lack of adequate |
|
access to food or home. |
|
In Miami-Dade, I can tell you that we take into account all |
|
the elements that influence the child. That is why we developed |
|
a parent academy, which is a college to support parents to |
|
become an echo of education for their children. |
|
We intensified at parent academy during the pandemic, to |
|
really assist parents in providing ideal educational |
|
environments in their homes during the school closure, ensuring |
|
that the parents had better knowledge of the devices and the |
|
digital content that their students were utilizing. |
|
So, it's not an either/or, it's a recognition of all of the |
|
social gaps, the financial gaps that children fall into before |
|
they arrive at the schoolhouse. |
|
Mr. Grothman. So, there's statistics even, you didn't |
|
collect the other statistics? |
|
Mr. Carvalho. I'm sorry? |
|
Mr. Grothman. To see how well you're doing. Do you collect |
|
the statistics by family background? |
|
Mr. Carvalho. Certainly, for me it's actually more |
|
important, the statistics that others collect. So, I wear two |
|
hats. I'm superintendent of Miami-Dade, but I'm also a Member |
|
of the National Assessment of Educational Progress Board, and |
|
Miami-Dade's 4th graders, despite the level of poverty, despite |
|
the English language limitation, and despite the 11 percent |
|
that have one or more disability, according to the NAPE, the |
|
last administration of NAEP in reading and mathematics, NAEP |
|
TUDA, they are No. 1 in the country in 4th grade reading and |
|
mathematics. |
|
So, schools with the appropriate supports through the |
|
diligence of leadership, data-driven strategies, and the |
|
incredible powerful work of teachers and visionary policy on |
|
the part of support, can in fact overcome some of those issues. |
|
Chairman Sablan. I love the back and forth, but I must |
|
interject and recognize Mr. DeSaulnier next. Mr. DeSaulnier you |
|
have five minutes sir. |
|
Mr. DeSaulnier. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for |
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holding this hearing. Just a comment from the previous |
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questions from the gentlemen from Wisconsin. In relation to my |
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district here in the San Francisco Bay area, that used to be |
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the former Chair of this committee, Congressman Miller, was in |
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the Congress for 40 years. |
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Our district has some of the wealthiest districts, my |
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district now in the San Francisco Bay area in California. And |
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we have some of the poorest and some in between. And we've been |
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working along with the current superintendent of public |
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instruction in California and the previous one, both of whom |
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came from this district, to try to deal with this disparity. |
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We worked very closely with Governor Brown when he did the |
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local control formula that helped California move even more |
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money under Title I, well consistent with Title I. So, the |
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disparity of the family structure, we know the history across |
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this country. And you've talked about it. And it's just |
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frustrating to hear these conversations. We've been studying |
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this for decades. |
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The pressure in my district on a single woman of color |
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who's got kids prior to COVID, and the inequality in this |
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country was already astronomical. So, there's the paleness |
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that's not true in others, sort of shocking that we'd even talk |
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about this now. |
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We know where the challenge is, and we know the benefit not |
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just for that community that historically has been treated so |
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poorly by this country in my view, but also the benefit to all |
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of us if we invest in that community, and I'm very proud of |
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that legislation that Congressman Thompson and I did on family |
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engagement centers a couple sessions ago. So sorry for that |
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editorial comment. |
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My question for the panel is we've got all of this that I |
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just alluded to prior to COVID, and COVID of course had a |
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disproportionate impact on these districts and the students. It |
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strikes me that there's both a challenge and an opportunity. We |
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already knew that single parent households in poor communities, |
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and communities of color were very heavily challenged to get |
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the kids to school, to get them in school, to get them support |
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after school. |
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And all those wrap around services would have worked so |
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hard for. And then you got COVID where Chairman Scott has |
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talked about. Forty percent of the schools in this country |
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don't have heating and air conditioning, so we've got to go |
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back in and provide that infrastructure for the future of |
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public health. |
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So, in that context maybe you could respond starting with |
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the Superintendent of Miami. The challenges and opportunities |
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of coming out of COVID, particularly for this affected |
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community. |
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Mr. Carvalho. Thank you so much for the question. I'll try |
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to be very brief. You know I think you touched on a very |
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important point, let me reflect on the previous questions as |
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well. Look, I think the strategy to accelerate students, |
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particularly students who fall into those gaps that you |
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described, to accelerate them to their full potential, we |
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cannot simply restore their performance to what it was prior to |
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the COVID crisis. |
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And we simultaneously cannot allow these investments which |
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are so sorely needed. We cannot allow this to be looked upon as |
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a time for opportunism, it's rather a time of opportunity. A |
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time when we have an opportunity to as a nation provide |
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solutions to long-term resource disparity and strategically |
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invest in academic equity. |
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And for me, whether we're talking about the black, Latino |
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communities, impoverished communities, students with |
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disabilities, for me that requires strategic investment |
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resources that follows yes, follows the condition of the child |
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in the school. Otherwise, we will never reach equal results |
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because the process of equity requires differentiated resource |
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investment, depending on the condition. |
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Second, it requires family engagement, support for the |
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communities. It requires additional time on task by the best |
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teachers around us. That means summer sessions, spring break, |
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we're going on spring break this coming week. There will be |
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about 80 schools in Miami that will be holding session. |
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For some students social emotional support, pedagogical |
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educational support throughout the summer, but also with arts |
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and music access, so that they benefit from the experience. And |
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last, you know, and this is still an issue across the country |
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many places, the digital divide still keeps a lot of students, |
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a lot of communities, a lot of parents to education that is |
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bell to bell. |
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After the last bell there is a total level of |
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disengagement. That is why we rushed to address the issue of |
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eliminating the digital deserts for that condition to be |
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eliminated, and our students can continue to learn after the |
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last bell. And if the computer is home with connectivity, we |
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can simultaneously address the needs--the long-term needs of |
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parents. |
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Mr. DeSaulnier. Just Mr. Chairman one last thought. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you, OK, make it quick. |
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Mr. DeSaulnier. OK. One of the wealthiest school districts |
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in my district, a third of their funding comes from the |
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foundation, so the parents. So just this dichotomy I want to |
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re-emphasize. Sorry to take so long Mr. Chairman. And nothing |
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against the parents who have money contributing, but it |
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demonstrates to me the challenge here in the dichotomy. Thank |
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you, Mr. Chairman. |
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Chairman Sablan. Yes, thank you. Mr. Carvalho if you ever |
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have a need for a job as school commissioner in my district, no |
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wonder Ms. Wilson is so proud of you sir. Thank you. Now I'd |
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like to recognize Mr. Allen please for five minutes, Mr. Allen. |
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Mr. Allen. Thank you Chairman and thank you to all of those |
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with us today. Can you hear me? |
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Chairman Sablan. Yes sir, yes sir. |
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Mr. Allen. OK great. |
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Chairman Sablan. We're just happy to see you again. |
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Mr. Allen. Yes, happy to see you. Evidently, I got booted |
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out of the Ranking Member on this committee, but somehow I got |
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on another one, so I miss you. But K through 12 is very special |
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to my heart, and it's been a difficult year. |
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Obviously, I pushed my district to reopen schools as well |
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as pretty much the entire State of Georgia except maybe metro |
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Atlanta, but we are open. I have 14 grandchildren and we have a |
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special needs grandchild. She cannot walk. She cannot talk. She |
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cannot sit up and she cannot feed herself and she's 4 years |
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old. |
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But when I'm around she walks, come to me and she sits in |
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my lap and hugs my neck and just smiles at me. She is |
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absolutely the most precious grandchild that God could have |
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given me. And I'm just tickled to death. And she's been in |
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school off and on. They've had kids with COVID, and she's had |
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to come home, and then she's had to go back. |
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And one time she was actually apparently very close to one |
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of the children that had COVID or an adult, and I guess it was |
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maybe one of the staff, and she's never had it. So, I guess |
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she's asymptomatic. I don't know. But it's just amazing. She's |
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an amazing child. |
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But obviously, it's been difficult. And I want to say thank |
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you to all of our educators who I mean you know there were two |
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ways to go with this thing. We could either surrender, or we |
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could fight. And you know at least the educators that I know |
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very closely and what I've heard here as testimony today, you |
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all are fighting. You're in harm's way. You're doing it for the |
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kids. |
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We have people in the food business that do that. People in |
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the healthcare business have done that. A lot of Americans have |
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stepped up and kept this thing going through unprecedented |
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time. Ms. Dale your story is amazing. And you described that |
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you had covered your concerns, but you heard from other |
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parents, especially those having children with needs, some like |
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your daughter's. |
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Can you describe why you went public with that? |
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Mrs. Dale. Yes. I don't think I had a choice. I think that |
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my daughter Lizzie, she wasn't going to learn at all this year |
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unless we did something, unless we said something to the |
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district, and to our State leaders that what was going on. |
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And I think that as you might know, you know, during COVID, |
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all of us parents felt like what was going on in our homes was |
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so private and none of us wanted to fail, and so none of us |
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said anything until sort of looking around and saying wait, |
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that's happening with you too? |
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Or you're having a hard time too? And so as soon as one |
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person spoke up and said this was difficult for me it enabled a |
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lot of other parents to speak up and say I'm having a really |
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hard time with my kids too, and it's kind of embarrassing. It's |
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a feeling of failure, but then other families trying to get the |
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resources for their kids, we get specially designed instruction |
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for my daughter, and that wasn't something that was being |
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offered. |
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And so, while some families like ours chose to really fight |
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and come to the table and figure out a way to get some of those |
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services delivered, other families had to give up. And a lot of |
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families had to unenroll from school because those services |
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weren't being offered, or delivered, or provided to them. |
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Mr. Allen. Yes well, let me tell you. This is our founders |
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gave us a grassroots principle. They gave Americans the |
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opportunity in the First Amendment to voice our concerns when |
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we see them, and this country will always be a grassroots |
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country. Special interest tries to rule, but I'm telling you |
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the people in the grassroots efforts are what gets things done. |
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Thank you for bringing attention to this, and I know it |
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takes a lot of courage to do that, because you probably got |
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criticized along the way. |
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Mrs. Dale. Um-hmm, in fact I was on a couple of radio |
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stations trying to share our story, and I'll never forget one |
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parent posting this so publicly saying, ``Oh that mom just |
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wants her most difficult child out of the house.'' |
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Mr. Allen. Right. |
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Mrs. Dale. And I think that was the moment that I thought |
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no, actually I just want my children to get an education. It |
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was harder for us to get an education. |
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Mr. Allen. Yes. It's been tough and thank you. Chairman I |
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yield back. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Allen. Let me |
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see. All right. Let me go on, Mr. Morelle? |
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Mr. Morelle. Thank you very much Mr. Chairman. |
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Chairman Sablan. No thank you for your patience, sir. |
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Mr. Morelle. Yes, well thank you. This is a very, very |
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important hearing, and I think there's no question that all of |
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us I think recognize the importance of having children |
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physically back in school when we can, and I think that's what |
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we're all working very hard to do, recognizing however, that we |
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want to do it appropriately. |
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I had sort of two different questions that occurred to me |
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during this conversation, and I appreciate very much the |
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witnesses being here and lending their expertise. The first is |
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around the question of children with different abilities. And |
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we've talked a fair amount as Ms. Dale has pointed out, and I |
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thank her very much for sharing her story, that children with |
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different abilities are more vulnerable to the virus, maybe |
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among the most hesitant to take the risk of returning to |
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school. |
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But I wonder if the educators could talk about measures |
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they have taken in the schools that are open to keep students |
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with disabilities from falling behind. Well, I guess first of |
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all, for those who are unable to be in the classroom, what |
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steps have you taken to ensure that children with different |
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abilities can still get a quality education? |
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Could we have some comments from the superintendent in |
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Miami-Dade for those students who weren't physically in the |
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classroom what they've done, and what their experience has |
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been? |
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Mr. Carvalho. Certainly. Thank you very much for the |
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question, for the Chair. No. 1, about 52 percent students with |
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special abilities are currently enrolled physically in our |
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schools, so they're attending physical classroom. Over the past |
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two grading periods, the first two quarters, we identified |
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additional students that we believed should be in the classroom |
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rather than at home, and we have had conversations with their |
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parents. |
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Despite their choice of modality, we felt it would be in |
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the best interest of the child to actually return to school for |
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a more direct intervention for them. But for those, specific to |
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your question, for those whose parents decided to keep them at |
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home, we taken a number of actions. |
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No. 1 we ensured that all these students with disabilities |
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had access to curriculum through the provision of assistive |
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technology that goes above and beyond what's typically provided |
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for students, adaptive accommodations specialized |
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supplementally curricular resources. |
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We developed a distance learning implementation plan for |
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each student with a disability describing how their IEP would |
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be implemented during distance learning. We provided ongoing |
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professional development for teachers and para-professionals |
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for this new adaptation, and as appropriate the necessary |
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therapies entitled to this child via their IEP. |
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We conducted the traditional IEP meetings with cycle |
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educational evaluations continued virtually throughout the |
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closure, so that students who required specialized services and |
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supports could be not only identified, but actually receive |
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these supports. |
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Last, we supported the families. We established hotlines in |
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addition to webinars for parents to be aware of their rights, |
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and how to best maximize online resources and the adaptive |
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technologies. |
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But again, I'd like to close by saying there is for a child |
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with disability, who requires hands-on intervention, a para- |
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professional, one on one. There is no substitute for the |
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experience that our teachers provide in school. That is why we |
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keep urging those parents to actually return children to the |
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schoolhouse. |
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Mr. Morelle. Well, look I thank you very much. And it |
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occurs to me Mr. Chair, perhaps we ought to be thinking about |
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best practices and protocols for those instances where children |
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with disabilities are not able to be physically in the |
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classroom. And I have just a minute left. |
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But one of the other things that I'm very interested in is |
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the pandemic has given us certain learnings, one around |
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telehealth and telemedicine and the greater use of technology. |
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Obviously, distance learning has had its challenges in terms of |
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the deployment of broadband, both in rural communities, urban |
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communities, so I'm troubled by that and how we need to work |
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together to be able to make sure that deployment is greater in |
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the future. |
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Not only for increasing the opportunities for children in |
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pandemics, but I think even for enrichment opportunities where |
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additional online content might be available, but it's just not |
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simply available to certain children in certain communities. |
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And I wondered if people could just--and I apologize, because |
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I'm down to 20 seconds, so it's going to be really short |
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answers. The feds will continue to add resources. |
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We have done that in December in our last American Rescue |
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Plan. Are there ways for communities to sustain it with what |
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will be limited Federal resource in the future and how much of |
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a priority will you put in the local districts. And I'd ask |
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anyone, perhaps Mr. Morial if you might have a comment? |
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Chairman Sablan. Out of time. Maybe someone, it's a good |
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question. Maybe someone will give you time. |
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Mr. Morelle. I yield back Mr. Chair thank you. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you. I now recognize Mrs. Miller of |
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Illinois. Mrs. Miller going once, going twice. All right. Mr. |
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Cawthorn sir, you have five minutes. Mr. Cawthorn going once, |
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going twice. I know he's online, but I guess he stepped away. |
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Let's see Mr. Yes, Mr. Keller. I apologize. Mr. Keller you have |
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been very patient. Sir you have five minutes. |
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Mr. Keller. Thank you, chairman. Republicans and Democrats |
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should be united in working to safely reopen our schools. As |
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we've witnessed, I brought to the attention several times |
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before the committee. Most recently during remote hearings in |
|
the U.S. Congress, over at the capitol, and we cannot get the |
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technology right with all the resources we have right at our |
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disposal. |
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And the staff quite frankly, how can we expect our students |
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to participate in virtual learning? Virtual learning has played |
|
an important part while we reopen our schools. But not just in |
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parts of north central and northeastern Pennsylvania, and in |
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other rural areas around our country, but also in urban areas |
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all across the United States. |
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Virtual learning is not always as reliable as we witnessed |
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with the issues we've seen, even in the capitol city Washington |
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D.C. Every student learns differently, and we cannot rob an |
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entire generation of students of the choice that they need to |
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pursue an education. |
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For instance, the CDC has warned that the absence of in- |
|
person education options may disadvantage certain students with |
|
disabilities. The continually changing nature of COVID-19 |
|
guidelines makes it that much more challenging for school |
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districts, school administrators, schools, teachers, parents, |
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and students. |
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The evidence is clear. Students should be allowed back in |
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the classroom and be permitted to attend school in a safe |
|
manner. Mrs. Dale, I thank you for being here today, and for |
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sharing your experience and your story. I can only imagine what |
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it has been like having school-aged children during this |
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pandemic and seeing them lose out on critical in-person |
|
learning. |
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I wish nothing but the best for Lizzie and the best of your |
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family, and everybody as we continue to reopen our schools. |
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Your story underscores the importance of having choices for |
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students during the current pandemic and going forward. How |
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would your experience have been different if there had been |
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more flexibility for in-person learning during these tight |
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reopening restrictions like in Oswego, Oregon? |
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Mrs. Dale. Thank you. Thanks for the question, Congressman |
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Keller. You know I have some choices for my other two children, |
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and none for my daughter Lizzie. And like I mentioned before, |
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you know, the instructional hours that she is receiving are far |
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less in public school, than the instructional hours that are |
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being received by my two other kids in private school now. |
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And we're really fortunate to have the resources to put our |
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other children in private school. What we'd really like to be |
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able to do is have those choices for all three of our kids. And |
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I'm on calls frequently with children, or with families in |
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eastern county Portland where these are all Title I schools, or |
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you know in schools where kids have much fewer choices than the |
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kids in our school district. |
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And you know this summer they're talking about grants and |
|
funding that's coming to the school districts for summer school |
|
and summer programs. And I guess I'm really grateful that |
|
there's some additional funds being allocated. But my question |
|
is, is that actually going to go to my daughter? Or is that |
|
going to actually go to any of these kids who really need those |
|
funds and that education, and those extra supports? |
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Because so far, they're not opening, and they're not |
|
offering any of those programs to my kids, or to other kids in |
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our area. And so, I think my biggest concern, I'm really |
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grateful that I hear that more money is being allocated, but to |
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date to get any of these services for our kids, has been a real |
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fight. |
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Has been a real uphill battle. Like Lizzie still hasn't had |
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a year, a full year, of no occupational therapy, no speech |
|
therapy, no physical therapy, all of it is delivered via |
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telehealth, and as I think other witnesses have said, |
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telehealth doesn't work for some kids with cognitive |
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disabilities. |
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And so, I guess my question is if we continue to allocate |
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funds, is that going to go to my child, or these needy children |
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in some of these districts? Where is it going to go? |
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Mr. Keller. That's actually a really good question because |
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last year Congress provided more than 70 billion to schools, |
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and you know when we look at the cost that has been put out |
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there, it's been estimated through the Nation, it would be |
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$422.00 per student on the high end, and that would amount to |
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about 25 billion. |
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So, we've appropriated more than twice, almost three times |
|
what the estimate is. So, I'm just hopeful that the money will |
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get to where it was designed to go, so kids like Lizzie can |
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have the help they need to thrive. And thank you very much. I |
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yield back. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Keller. Thank |
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you very much. I now recognize Miss McBath, Lucy. |
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Ms. McBath. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I just wanted to |
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say thank you to all of our witnesses today for your excellent |
|
testimony, and you're such grounded in this issue. And Ms. |
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Dale, I just want to say I applaud you for such loving care and |
|
commitment toward Lizzie and your children. And I'm so sorry |
|
that that remark was made toward you because it's so apparent |
|
that you truly have done everything that you can to make sure |
|
that Lizzie has the care and resources that she needs for her |
|
education. |
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I do want to say though that this month President Biden |
|
signed the American Rescue Plan into law, giving schools across |
|
the country the funding and the resources that they so |
|
desperately need to make it through the COVID-19 pandemic. And |
|
the American Rescue Plan includes the biggest as we've said, it |
|
includes the biggest investment in the United States K through |
|
12 education ever in history. |
|
And in fact, the three school districts that are part of my |
|
congressional district here in Georgia, will be receiving about |
|
676 million dollars from this vital legislation, and I couldn't |
|
be more happy for my district. This funding actually goes |
|
toward helping schools reopen safely, and equitably addressing |
|
learning loss to all of our students and helps our students to |
|
get back on track to achieving their post-secondary goals. |
|
80 percent of the good-paying jobs that now require post- |
|
secondary education, and unfortunately COVID-19 is wreaking |
|
havoc on college enrollment rates. In this fall the percentage |
|
of high school graduates who went on to college immediately |
|
after high school fell by 22 percent. So, the decline in |
|
enrollment was nearly twice as large for low-income high school |
|
graduates, then for their higher income peers. |
|
And though there's always been a disconnect between high |
|
school and college, more students than ever, we know are |
|
falling into the cracks because of this pandemic. Mr. Carvalho, |
|
what should we be doing in the short-term and in the long-term |
|
to support students in making the transition from high school |
|
to post-secondary education, and how can funding from the |
|
American Rescue Plan Act be used to help them? |
|
Mr. Carvalho. Thank you very much for the question, |
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Congresswoman. That is probably one of the most important |
|
questions I have heard today because it deals with the fact |
|
that 12th grade does not represent finality in the educational |
|
opportunity or journey of students. And we know that many |
|
students who graduate high school don't necessarily have a road |
|
toward a full secondary viable placement. |
|
So, what can be done with these funds? Quite frankly, and I |
|
alluded to it during my early prepared remarks is No. 1, the |
|
identification of those students, particularly at the secondary |
|
level who are about to graduate but may not necessarily have |
|
the number of credits. |
|
There are opportunities for credit recovery during the |
|
summer. Second, there are opportunities during the summer and |
|
the rest of the school year to engage students in career |
|
technical programming that is economically linked to the |
|
communities they live in. Third, there are opportunities to |
|
engage students in more actively participating in ACT and SAT |
|
preparatory programs that students in more affluent communities |
|
take for granted, giving them an additional chance at having |
|
access to this program, and those exams. |
|
There are also opportunities that can be created during the |
|
spring break, the rest of the school year, and during the |
|
summer, that to go above and beyond the minimum requirements |
|
that the standards in any one State require. Preparing these |
|
students for success, whether it's college at 2-year technical |
|
school, college, or university. |
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In Miami-Dade I can tell you that we paid close attention |
|
to the post-secondary goals in the level of preparedness of our |
|
students, and we make the appropriate investments. We plan. |
|
With the ARP dollars, with these recovery investments, |
|
supplement our career technical programing, supplement or SAT |
|
and ACT preparation, supplement over the weeks and months that |
|
we have the additional credit recovery for students. |
|
And also provide a repertoire of opportunities for these |
|
students, particularly those who are in high school right now |
|
to really solidify their proficiency level in areas that will |
|
make them, enable them to be successful in their post-secondary |
|
endeavors. |
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Ms. McBath. Thank you so much for that question. I am so |
|
sorry this is my dog in the background. And Ms. Almazan, over |
|
the summer and in the fall, I spoke with teachers in my |
|
district about their experiences with virtual learning. And |
|
they were very, very worried that their students, especially |
|
those with disabilities, and we're talking about these very |
|
students today, that they were going to fall behind because of |
|
the lack of in-person attention, as Mrs. Dale has just been so |
|
eloquently speaking about today, and that they weren't able to |
|
get this kind of in-person learning through the virtual |
|
learning. |
|
What steps has Secretary Cardona taken to reach out to the |
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disability community, and ensure that disabled students are a |
|
priority when schools are considering reopening and these |
|
decisions? |
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Ms. Almazan. Well Secretary Cardona reached out to us |
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within the first week of him being confirmed, and he has been |
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very open to the issues because he came from Connecticut, and |
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he certainly understands the issues that diverse learners and |
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equity present and challenge. |
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I want to say that there are a variety of places that have |
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a addressed the issues of remote learning, places like Center |
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for Learner Equity, Educating All Learners Alliance, COPAA is a |
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partner. The National Center for Learning Disabilities, they |
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all have resources and have created resources in the last year, |
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and we look forward to working with Secretary Cardona as we try |
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to address the needs of students with disabilities. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you. Thank you, Miss McBath. Thank |
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you. I'd now like to recognize again, try Mrs. Miller. Mrs. |
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Miller? Mr. Cawthorn? Mr. Cawthorn? Mrs. Steel? |
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Mr. Cawthorn. Mr. Chairman I apologize for that sir. |
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Chairman Sablan. OK. Mr. Cawthorn, right? |
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Mr. Cawthorn. Yes sir how are you doing. |
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Chairman Sablan. We're good. You'll have five minutes. |
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Mr. Cawthorn. That's good to hear. So, Mrs. Dale I |
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sincerely appreciated your sentiments talking about your desire |
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to open some of the schools and everything you are facing. I've |
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got a disability myself, not necessarily a mental one, but a |
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physical one, so I feel for your child who's having to go |
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through this. |
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Can I ask you what is it like--the world like, for your |
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daughter now really after going through a full year for being |
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just alone and secluded from her friends in school? |
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Mrs. Dale. Thank you Representative Cawthorn. We're re- |
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establishing routines now. We're trying to figure out where the |
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gaps are, where the gaps exist, how to return some of that |
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structure. We've actually hired a behavior specialist to come |
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to our house and work with us a couple hours a week, because |
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what happens when a child with a disability attends school is |
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they get into a flow of structure and routine. |
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They're with peers and they use that peer modeling to |
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learn, and when that routine is disrupted or changed, you know |
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they lose a lot of those, they lose a lot of that structure. |
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They lose a lot of that routine that really helps a child with |
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a disability know how to navigate their day. |
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I think the other challenge that we're trying to overcome |
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right now is just there's no physical education being provided |
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in our schools, so while our schools have started to reopen in |
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a hybrid format, there's no recess, and there's no PE, and |
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that's something that you know kids in club sports, and kids in |
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private--and I've got a daughter that's on a private dance |
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team, children that have access to club activities like that, |
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that a lot of students either vulnerable students of you know, |
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low income, or students with disabilities like my daughter |
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Lizzie don't have access to things like club sports. |
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You know schools are a place that they get to have physical |
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education, so we're dealing with no just academic losses and |
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friendships and other losses that we're dealing with you know |
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physical challenges and things like you know, eating the right |
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healthy foods, and getting the right amount of physical |
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activity. |
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Mr. Cawthorn. Right, well Jennifer thank you very much for |
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taking your time to be able to speak with all of us. I do want |
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to ask one more question. Do you think that some of the Federal |
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Department of Education's funding you know to these states and |
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other areas, should that be tied to schools reopening? |
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Mrs. Dale. I think very much so. Here in Oregon, you know, |
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we kept being told that schools you know, once the teachers, |
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once we hit certain metrics for COVID cases, schools would |
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reopen. Once the teachers got vaccinated schools would reopen. |
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Once, and so for parents feeling like you know it's going to |
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happen, it's going to happen. In a couple of weeks from now for |
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parents it kept feeling like we're going to open, we're going |
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to open, and then it didn't. |
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And the teachers continued to get what they requested, and |
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what they needed. And I am very supportive of teachers having |
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vaccines and the States reopening, and the metrics being in the |
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right you know, place for the community to be safe. |
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Mr. Cawthorn. Yes. |
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Mrs. Dale. But what is hard for me as a parent, is what can |
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I trust? What can I trust of the public school system? And that |
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is why we've had to move two of our children to a private |
|
school system because I know what I'm going to get there, and I |
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know what's going to happen. |
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And so, you know as money does come out to the public |
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school system, which I also support because I know that's going |
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to help my daughter but reopen. |
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Mr. Cawthorn. Right of course. |
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Mrs. Dale. But we still haven't gotten a commitment to |
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reopen. |
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Mr. Cawthorn. Of course, well Ms. Dale thank you very much. |
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And very quickly, I know I only have about 30 seconds left of |
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this answer, but Mr. Morial, during your opening statement you |
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were talking about how we need state-wide testing just to be |
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able to tell where our students are at this time. |
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I was wondering, do you think coming out of this pandemic, |
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do you think that we should continue to utilize these |
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standardized tests, which you know I feel like some time is |
|
like asking a fish to climb a tree, whereas it doesn't mean the |
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fish doesn't you know is talented, it just means he can't climb |
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a tree. |
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Do you think that there could be a different form of |
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testing that would be more beneficial for students? |
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Chairman Sablan.Ten seconds. |
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Mr. Morial. Testing can always improve, but right now it's |
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the best thing we have to see where our students are, not only |
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to identify gaps within a school district, within a school, |
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with the data you can tell whether the performance |
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differentials are at the school level, at the classroom level, |
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or within a particular school district within a State. |
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I think right now can testing improve--yes. But what we |
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have now is better than nothing. |
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Mr. Cawthorn. Mr. Morial thank you very much. Mr. Chairman |
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I yield back. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you. I think Miss Hayes of |
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Connecticut has joined us, so Miss Hayes you have five minutes. |
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Ms. Hayes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate you holding |
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this very important hearing. I think it's safe to say that no |
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one, if we had it our way, no one would want us to be in the |
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situation that we're in now. And we want our children to be |
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safe. |
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My son, actually his school went back to full in-person, |
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and within two and a half weeks he's now home again for a 10- |
|
day quarantine because one of his classmates tested positive |
|
for COVID. And just today, my cousin who is at work asked me to |
|
leave the office to go get her daughter, because the teacher |
|
tested positive, and the school sent out a notice to parents |
|
that they're shutting down. |
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So, the idea that Democrats are OK with schools being |
|
closed is just a false choice. Every single one of us wants our |
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children to go back to school. My questions today, |
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Superintendent Carvalho, you made a statement about you at your |
|
school one of the things that they did was supplement the SAT |
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and ACT testing. And I too am concerned about what the annual |
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standardized tests look like for this year. |
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So, it's an issue that I continue to try to gather |
|
information on because in my district, and from my own |
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perspective as a career educator, one of the things that I know |
|
is that these high-stakes, high pressure tests, which are our |
|
best tool for collecting information. |
|
We've heard this year about all the gaps in learning that |
|
we've seen, so now for kids to be expected to perform at the |
|
highest level and be measured by these tests is deeply |
|
concerning, and I think will be unfairly punitive. |
|
So, my question to you Superintendent Carvalho is as a |
|
superintendent of one of the largest school districts in the |
|
country, have you heard any concerns from your educators or |
|
parents surrounding the issue of standardized testing, or have |
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you sought to seek feedback about how we can make this better, |
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and make sure that the information is used in the way in which |
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it is intended? |
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Mr. Carvalho. Thank you very much for your question |
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Representative Hayes. We certainly have. And No. 1, I'm sorry |
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for what you described earlier, the impact of COVID on your |
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family, and I would like to express also you know my absolute |
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understanding and compassion for the testimony of Ms. Dale and |
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what she has gone through. |
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Specifically, to your question, yes, I've heard from many |
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parents, and from many educators, not only in Miami-Dade, but |
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across the State and the country with certain significant |
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concerns about standardized assessments this year. And not only |
|
the assessment itself, but toward what end do we assess, and |
|
will there be punitive actions and consequences as a result of |
|
that data. |
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We have taken a school board based on policy and |
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administratively a number of steps we have communicated with |
|
our State regarding our concerns, specific to the utilization |
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of tests dated this year for the reasons that you alluded to. |
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And I'll just mention a couple more. |
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No. 1, COVID-19 has impacted differently different areas of |
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the country, even within one State or one county, the impacts |
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have been uneven. So, the expectation that the environmental |
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educational conditions would be the same across the board for |
|
all students, all grade levels, all schools is just a fallacy. |
|
Second, second the issue that was mentioned earlier, the |
|
quarantine impact on whole cohorts of students in schools has |
|
been desperate from school to school, sometimes within the same |
|
school. Certainly, across districts. What I'm referring to is |
|
that there will be an issue of validity and reliability |
|
associated with the data that will emanate from this year's |
|
standardized assessment. |
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That is why the Gold Standard of American Assessment, which |
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is the NAEP, as an organization, as a board it canceled its |
|
administration for these very same reasons. Now in the State of |
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Florida, and I understand what Mr. Morial said, and I agree. We |
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need to know where our students are. We need to know where |
|
students are. We need to identify the gaps. |
|
If, in fact, we are to develop strategies to eliminate |
|
those gaps and to accelerate students toward their full |
|
potential. So, we don't depend only on summative assessments, |
|
which are these standardized assessments at the end of the |
|
year, we also depend on formative assessments, on assessments |
|
delivered by teachers themselves, so that we know, rather than |
|
waiting until the end of the year, where our students are, |
|
where the gaps are, whether regression exists, where the |
|
learning loss is, and actively and timely intervene. |
|
My hope is that as a result of our advocacy with a State, |
|
and on the basis of the waiver opportunity that the Federal |
|
Government has offered to the states, that to the extent that |
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assessments are administered and the State of Florida that is |
|
moving forward with its assessments, that the window for |
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assessments-- |
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Ms. Hayes. I'm sorry, my time is about to run out. I don't |
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mean to cut you off, but you just said everything that I know |
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to be true. We saw that the SATs and ACTs in most places have |
|
been cutoff. And any good teacher is doing formative |
|
assessments on an ongoing basis, so I really hope that we have |
|
a more robust conversation so that we are in fact measuring |
|
what we are intended to measure. |
|
Because my son's standardized test--standardize is we |
|
standardize everything about it. But it would be a measure of |
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what I taught him this year and not his teacher, or his school. |
|
With that Mr. Chair I yield back. |
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Chairman Sablan. Yes, thank you Jahana. Actually, my |
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daughter as a teacher has told me that they are, at least she |
|
is, identifying students in her class who may need to go to |
|
summer school, and yes. So good work. |
|
I'd like to let me see, Mrs. Miller, I think Mrs. Miller |
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has joined us. Mrs. Miller? |
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Mrs. Miller. Yes, thank you. I'm back, thank you I'm |
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between multiple committees so. |
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Chairman Sablan. Yes. |
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Mrs. Miller. Thank you for bearing with. I have a question |
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for Mrs. Dale. Mrs. Dale thank you for your testimony. And in |
|
your testimony, you shared that you began engaging in grass |
|
roots advocacy to get students back in school. I was wondering |
|
how your efforts were received by school board Members and law |
|
makers? |
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Mrs. Dale. Thank you for your question Representative |
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Miller. In the beginning what we heard, so this is back in |
|
September and October when we launched some of these efforts, |
|
we got kind of form responses, template responses that said |
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we're hearing an equal amount of people who want to go back, |
|
and people who don't want to go back. |
|
And so the response in the beginning wasn't very optimistic |
|
that there would be a choice to return, but what we continually |
|
advocated for was that students who needed to go back, and |
|
needed that option to return to school, were given the choice |
|
to return, so that the comprehensive distance learning would |
|
continue for those teachers and staff and students that were |
|
doing OK in distance learning, but that the choice to return to |
|
in-person in a safe way was provided. |
|
And there was a state-wide mandate in Oregon that was not |
|
lifted until January 1 of this year. And so, it was never even |
|
a possibility, or a consideration even at a local school |
|
levels. |
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Mrs. Miller. So, may I ask another question? Why do you |
|
believe in light of the science being clear that reopening |
|
schools is safe? Why do you believe schools are not open? |
|
Mrs. Dale. I think that's the hardest question for all of |
|
us as parents, but I think that two reasons. I think one is |
|
that from what I learned over the last six to seven months, and |
|
this was nothing that I had ever gotten involved in before. I'm |
|
very involved in my child's education, but not in this manner. |
|
But over the last six or seven months what we discovered was |
|
you know kids don't vote, and so there was really no child |
|
representation. |
|
There wasn't anybody coming to the table to say this is |
|
what's happening with our children, and with our kids, and why |
|
are kids suffering. I think that was one issue, and I think the |
|
other issue is that--and I alluded to this just a little bit |
|
earlier, and said there are contracts in place with teachers, |
|
and with teachers? unions that really precluded our kids from |
|
having the opportunity and the choice to go back to school. |
|
So, for example, you know there were work from home |
|
agreements that teachers had signed. Any time a school tried to |
|
reopen, so when our school district tried to reopen in |
|
February. The teacher's union went out and placed ads and went |
|
to the newspapers and said that it was being rushed, and that |
|
they weren't consulted with going back. |
|
And so, they opposed returning to in-person learning. And |
|
so, I think that from our perspective is at least all I can |
|
really speak to is my perspective as a parent and for my kids |
|
is that there just wasn't--there is a lot of inertia around |
|
going back. There wasn't this leadership and effort to figure |
|
out well how do we make it possible for some of our kids to get |
|
back in-person learning. |
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Mrs. Miller. Thank you Mrs. Dale and I yield back the |
|
balance of my time. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you. Thank you, Mrs. Miller. Again, |
|
let me see I'm going to call out Mr. Cawthorn one more time. |
|
Mrs. Steel? All right Mr. Bowman, sir? Mr. Bowman? Going once, |
|
and now the most patient Full Committee Chair Member of |
|
Congress, Chairman Bobby Scott. Sir you have five minutes. |
|
Mr. Scott. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And first I'd |
|
like to respond to a comment in his opening statement by the |
|
Ranking Member. He talked about political interference. I |
|
certainly agree with his comments and would like to enter into |
|
the record an outline of the original CDC guidelines from meat |
|
packing plants, and then the final CDC guidelines after the |
|
Trump administration White House got involved, there's a stark |
|
difference. |
|
And I would also like to enter into the record the present |
|
CDC guidelines about three feet difference. It doesn't say you |
|
can suddenly go to three feet. It says you can go to three feet |
|
if you are complying with other guidelines like mask wearing |
|
and everything else. I'd like those entered into the record. |
|
Chairman Sablan. Without objection. |
|
Mr. Scott. Mr. Morial thank you Marc, whoops, well let me |
|
ask the superintendent from Dade County Mr. Carvalho. Comments |
|
have been made about the fact that money has been allocated to |
|
your district based on this Title I formula. Obviously, you've |
|
got a lot of money for your district that hadn't been, could |
|
not have possibly been budgeted. |
|
Can we count on you showing a significant difference as a |
|
result of in terms of results, because of this money? You know |
|
it's a lot of money, and if we don't show some good results, |
|
we'll never hear the end of it, and I can assure you you'll |
|
never get that kind of money again. You're on mute. |
|
Mr. Carvalho. Thank you. Representative Scott you can count |
|
on me. You can count on me. You can count on the 40,000 |
|
employees of this school system and 20,000 dedicated teaching |
|
professionals to do so. |
|
Look, I'm a recession superintendent. I lived through the |
|
Great Recession of 2008-2009 where we had to shave hundreds of |
|
millions of dollars from our budget, and had it not been for |
|
the race to the top investments, some of the soaring results |
|
that I described probably would not have happened. |
|
And I can tell you that some of the best practices that |
|
arose from those investments are still being felt in this |
|
school system today. Second, we approach the decisions on the |
|
utilization of these resources very carefully, in full |
|
consultation with our board who the policy actually requires a |
|
plan, a time plan for the expenditures with an exact knowledge |
|
of how those investments are going to be made, toward what end, |
|
what is the expected objective, goal and benefit. |
|
Mr. Scott. I'm sorry, limited time. We've talked about the |
|
chance of continuing the allocations. It's my understanding |
|
that the virtual of the money, although not spent, has been |
|
allocated. When you hired a teacher, how long do you hire a |
|
teacher for? |
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Mr. Carvalho. Well sir, when we hire a teacher we hope to |
|
hire a teacher for a lifetime because of their commitment. The |
|
funds the way they've been earmarked to us, the first level |
|
ESSER I, we've spent 70 percent of those dollars. |
|
We just received the second allocation under the previous |
|
administration, and we now know that the most massive |
|
investment in the history of education in this country, which |
|
for Miami-Dade exceeds about a billion dollars, has been |
|
announced. And we're going to absolutely be cautious, careful |
|
in monitoring those expenditures and strategic to live up to |
|
your challenge to me, which is these dollars will make a |
|
difference in terms of accelerating every single student to |
|
their full potential. |
|
Mr. Scott. A lot of comment has been made about the fact |
|
that the money hasn't been spent. When you hire a teacher today |
|
you don't actually spend the money in a certain time? |
|
Mr. Carvalho. No sir. School districts are, you're correct |
|
sir, school districts obviously annualize expenditures, but the |
|
expenditure is timed with its consumption, so obviously, on the |
|
first month of a teacher's work you would expect about one- |
|
eighth of that allocation to have been spent. But I can tell |
|
you one thing. There's a difference between expenditures and |
|
encumbered. A lot of funds have been spent. A lot of funds have |
|
been encumbered, but it is timed in accordance obviously with |
|
their utilization, particularly if funds are attached to |
|
professionals, to human beings. |
|
Mr. Scott. I wanted to ask Marc Morial a question. I see he |
|
is back. At the end of his testimony, he was talking about the |
|
need for state-wide assessments. Can he explain why the Urban |
|
League is supporting state-wide assessments? |
|
Chairman Sablan. Yes, he seems to be on, but his camera is |
|
off. |
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Mr. Morial. No, I'm here. |
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Chairman Sablan. Oh, there he is. |
|
Mr. Morial. Yes, I had to take care of a personal matter. |
|
Congressman, thank you for your question. And I've heard the |
|
testimony. We could debate when a state-wide assessment should |
|
be taken, but we have to know where the gaps are. We have to |
|
understand where the disparities exist. |
|
And school leaders also need, and parents need |
|
transparency. Certainly, it's going to demonstrate that many |
|
students have lost ground. But what that will do is it will, if |
|
you will, present, provide the evidence for the investments in |
|
the kinds of strategies to close these gaps. |
|
And I think we'll demonstrate why continued investment in |
|
Title I and other, if you will, interventions and other |
|
supports, for students of color, the low- and moderate-income |
|
students, the English language learners, are so essential. We |
|
have to have tools. We cannot fly the plane without using |
|
radar. |
|
Debate the when, whether it should happen in the beginning |
|
of next school year. Debate the specifics. I don't, I'm not in |
|
love with standardized tests. No one is. I have nightmares from |
|
taking the bar exam, still. But the point is, is we have to |
|
have common tools. |
|
Teacher assessments are extremely valued, but not a common |
|
tool, and we need common tools to determine. I would certainly |
|
say there's a lot to debate about the methodology of testing, |
|
about the pressure on kids around testing, but we've got to |
|
have data, and I do not want disparities to be masked. |
|
So, you don't know where they are. We don't understand how |
|
they play out. If we're going to be serious about addressing |
|
systemic inequities in this country. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you. |
|
Mr. Scott. Thank you. Mr. Chairman I'd like to ask |
|
unanimous consent to enter into the record a document published |
|
by the National Education Association in 2016 describing how |
|
you can do assessments, talking about eliminating high stakes |
|
testing, and providing more local and local controlled testing |
|
as we did and in Every Student Succeeds Act so that people will |
|
know that we're not talking about the imposition of |
|
standardized tests, we're talking about making sure that we |
|
have the assessments so we know where the learning has to take |
|
place. |
|
We have provided accordingly the Title I formula, so the |
|
money is going where it's most needed. And you can't as |
|
business friends tell us, you can't manage what you don't |
|
measure. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you without objection so ordered. |
|
Mr. Scott. Appreciate it. |
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Chairman Sablan. And Mr. Chairman your five minutes is up. |
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Thank you. So, we'll do some housekeeping matters here. I would |
|
like to remind my colleagues that pursuant to committee |
|
practice, materials for submission to the hearing record must |
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be submitted to the Committee Clerk within 14 days following |
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the last day of this hearing, so by close of business on May 8 |
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of 2021, preferably in Microsoft Word format. |
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The materials submitted must address the subject matter of |
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the hearing and only a Member of the subcommittee, or an |
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invited witness may submit materials for inclusion in the |
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hearing record. Documents are limited to 50 pages each. |
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Documents longer than 50 pages will be incorporated into |
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the record via an internet link that you must provide to the |
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Committee Clerk within the required timeframe, but please |
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recognize that in the future that link may no longer work. |
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Pursuant to House rules and regulations, items for the |
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record should be submitted to the clerk electronically by |
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encouraged to submit materials to the inbox before the hearing, |
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or during the hearing at the time the Member makes the request. |
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Now again I want to thank all of our witnesses for their |
|
participation today. All of you made huge contributions, this |
|
subcommittee. And Members of the subcommittees may have some |
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additional questions for you. And we ask the witnesses to |
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please respond to these questions in writing. The hearing |
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record will be held open for 14 days in order to receive these |
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responses. I remind my colleagues that pursuant to committee |
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practice, witness questions for the hearing record must be |
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submitted to the Majority Committee Staff or Committee Clerk |
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within 7 days. |
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The questions submitted must address the subject matter of |
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the hearing. I now recognize the distinguished Ranking Member |
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for a closing statement. |
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Mr. Owens. OK one second here. Hold tight. Bear with me. |
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Chairman Sablan. Mr. Owens, yes? |
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Mr. Owens. Yes, 1 second. I'm having a little bit of--OK, |
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OK. First of all, Mr. Chairman, thank you once again. Before I |
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start, I'd like to kind of clear the record. A little narrative |
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that I'm finding very disturbing over the decades about a race |
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that I am so proud to be part of, and a history that I'm so |
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proud to reflect upon. |
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That there was this narrative that for some reason because |
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we're in a segregated community, that we were a hapless race |
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that could never overcome the oppressive white race. I want to |
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clear that. I grew up in Tallahassee, Florida, the deep south, |
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in a community that was remarkably successful. |
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Even though it was segregated, we had the same thoughts of |
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our country that other communities did, even though we were not |
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assimilating at the time, whether it be Italian or German, we |
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loved our country, believed in democracy. And we believed in |
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the tenets that made our community great, and we did not trust |
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government. |
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We believe there's a God in heaven. We believe in education |
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the family unit and capitalism was our way out and guess what? |
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The 40s and 50s and 6's we proved that. So, I want everybody to |
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remember these statistics as we've talked about my race, |
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because it has been something that's happened since the 60's |
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has gotten to where we are. |
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It's not the color of our skin it's not what happened 200 |
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years ago. In the 40s, 50s, and 60s my community, a black |
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community, led our country's growth in middle class. Men |
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matriculated from |
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college, men committed to marriage, it was 70 percent. So |
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no, we didn't have the problems with the single mothers that we |
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now have today. |
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Men knew was it was to man up and take care of their |
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families. We also led our country in the growth of the middle |
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class because we had the highest percentage of entrepreneurs, |
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over 40 percent. So, once you keep that in context and now look |
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at what's happened to our Nation, and what's happening to the |
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lack of education we are not experiencing. |
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So that being said, and I also want to say this to Mr. |
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Carvalho, I hope I've pronounced that right. Thank you for what |
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you've done in Miami-Dade. Thank you. You represent so many of |
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our great leaders and teachers. You truly do love your |
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profession, and you've proved that in this last year. |
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Unfortunately, there's so many people out there that take this |
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profession and they don't. |
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And I would say to Jennifer, she would have loved to have |
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had your kind of leadership up in her State, because Lizzie |
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would have had a different result over the last year. OK, that |
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being said, Mr. Chairman, thank you again for calling this |
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hearing, for the witnesses to offer your expertise today. |
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This has really been a great hearing. But I am frustrated |
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with a couple of things that I've heard. First, I'm frustrated |
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that the answer from my democratic friends for what children |
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have experienced this last year is just to dump a whole lot |
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more money into the same system that's failed students for so |
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many generations. |
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In 1992, Mr. Chairman, black 12th graders scored 24 points |
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lower than white students in reading. In 2019 they scored 32 |
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points lower, and in 2017 the Department of Education State of |
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California stated that 75 percent of black boys could not pass |
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standard reading and writing tests. |
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This has nothing to do with the color of their skin, it has |
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to do with policies in the face of the teacher unions whose |
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responsibility is to never allow this to happen. It blows my |
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mind that Democrats seem to think that all they have to do is |
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dump a whole lot of money into the same system that's failed |
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us. We need to change that. |
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Second of all, I'm glad to see my Democrat friends are |
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finally supporting the need to reopen schools. I welcome this |
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conversation. But Mr. Chairman, our families do not need our |
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words, they need our actions. When Republicans opposed |
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requiring school districts to reopen schools in order to |
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receive Federal COVID aid, every single Democrat voted no. |
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Five times the Democrats voted no on reopening schools for |
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all students. Your party voted no on reopening schools for the |
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most vulnerable students, including students with disabilities. |
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The Democrats voted no on allowing parents with children in |
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closed schools to use their personal share of public funds to |
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find other educational options. |
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Your party voted no when requiring teachers? unions and |
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school districts to be transparent about reopening |
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negotiations. And Democrats voted no on reopening when all |
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teachers in a district had access to the vaccine. Five times, |
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five times to show that Democrats believed in science. |
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Five times to show that Democrats care about the harm being |
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done to our children. Five times to show Democrats newfound |
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enthusiasm for reopening schools isn't based on a summarization |
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that the party is in political peril, and five times Democrats |
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said no. |
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So, Mr. Chair, I appreciate you holding these hearings. I |
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appreciate the opportunity to amplify the impact that this last |
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year has had on families. I hope my friends across the aisle |
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will put into action behind words, these words, the next time |
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they have an opportunity. |
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And the last point, I grew up again in Tallahassee. I was |
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the third black to go to the University of Miami. I left there |
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with a degree in biology. In my community in the 60s that was |
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not weird. That was not unheard of. We expected success because |
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we wanted to reflect greater on our community, on our race, and |
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to succeed. |
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Today that would be about almost unbelievable that a black, |
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young man could go play football and graduate with a degree |
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that will be respected across our country. That should never |
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happen in our country, and we need to make sure that those that |
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are most at risk are given an opportunity like everybody else, |
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no matter what their zip code is, to have the American dream of |
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education and choice. |
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And thank you for those out there giving our kids across |
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our country parents? choice this last year. That is truly the |
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American way and I thank you for the opportunity. Mr. Chair I |
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yield back. |
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Chairman Sablan. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Owens. And I'm |
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not going to respond to your comments, but I want to thank our |
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witnesses again for taking the time to be with us. Again, each |
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one of you has made good, very good contributions to our |
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hearing today. |
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Today's hearing confirm that the COVID-19 relief funding |
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that Congress has secured over the last year has been critical, |
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critical to addressing the immediate challenges of the pandemic |
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for schools. We're not expecting that there would be miracles |
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here, but they were immediate. They addressed the challenges, |
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the additional challenges of COVID-19. |
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We also heard how the American Rescue Plan in particular, |
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is finally providing schools with the funding they need to |
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reopen classrooms safely, keep classrooms open, and help |
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students overcome the far-reaching consequences of school |
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closures. |
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Finally, our discussions confirm what we have heard from |
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our relief efforts so far, that Congress must continue to |
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target resources to the schools and students who need them |
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most. School communities cannot fully recover from this |
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pandemic unless we confront persistent educational disparities |
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that has been exacerbated by the pandemic. |
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We certainly have a clear path to finally achieve |
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educational equity as we slowly emerge from this global health |
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emergency. I look forward to taking historic steps along with |
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all of you, alongside my colleagues on both sides of the aisle |
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to ensure that every student has access to an education that |
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allows them to reach their full potential. |
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And I go back right now I remember the hearing we had like |
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three Congress's ago and we had a GAO official testify about |
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the status of Native American schools because somebody |
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mentioned, I think it was Mr. Grothman mentioned, our families |
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generation of how we should look at that. The status of Native |
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American schools in our country, and it is embarrassing. It is |
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so unfair to what we have done to the indigenous people of our |
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America. |
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But I want to thank you all for this also, coming from the |
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territories. It's not 10 o'clock to 6 in the morning, almost |
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time for me to get up from bed, but so it's always good, very |
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important meeting. Everyone thank you for joining us and this |
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meeting is now adjourned. Thank you. |
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