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COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS |
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EDWARD R. ROYCE, California, Chairman |
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CHRISTOPHER H. SMITH, New Jersey ELIOT L. ENGEL, New York |
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ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, Florida BRAD SHERMAN, California |
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DANA ROHRABACHER, California GREGORY W. MEEKS, New York |
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STEVE CHABOT, Ohio ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey |
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JOE WILSON, South Carolina GERALD E. CONNOLLY, Virginia |
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MICHAEL T. McCAUL, Texas THEODORE E. DEUTCH, Florida |
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TED POE, Texas BRIAN HIGGINS, New York |
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MATT SALMON, Arizona KAREN BASS, California |
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DARRELL E. ISSA, California WILLIAM KEATING, Massachusetts |
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TOM MARINO, Pennsylvania DAVID CICILLINE, Rhode Island |
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JEFF DUNCAN, South Carolina ALAN GRAYSON, Florida |
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MO BROOKS, Alabama AMI BERA, California |
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PAUL COOK, California ALAN S. LOWENTHAL, California |
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RANDY K. WEBER SR., Texas GRACE MENG, New York |
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SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania LOIS FRANKEL, Florida |
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RON DeSANTIS, Florida TULSI GABBARD, Hawaii |
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MARK MEADOWS, North Carolina JOAQUIN CASTRO, Texas |
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TED S. YOHO, Florida ROBIN L. KELLY, Illinois |
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CURT CLAWSON, Florida BRENDAN F. BOYLE, Pennsylvania |
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SCOTT DesJARLAIS, Tennessee |
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REID J. RIBBLE, Wisconsin |
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DAVID A. TROTT, Michigan |
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LEE M. ZELDIN, New York |
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DANIEL DONOVAN, New York |
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Amy Porter, Chief of Staff Thomas Sheehy, Staff Director |
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Jason Steinbaum, Democratic Staff Director |
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C O N T E N T S |
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H. Res. 374, Recognizing the 50th anniversary of Singaporean |
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independence and reaffirming Singapore's close partnership with |
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the United States.............................................. 2 |
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Amendment in the nature of a substitute to H. Res. 374 offered |
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by the Honorable Eliot L. Engel, a Representative in Congress |
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from the State of New York................................... 6 |
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H. Res. 650, Providing for the safety and security of the Iranian |
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dissidents living in Camp Liberty/Hurriya in Iraq and awaiting |
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resettlement by the United Nations High Commissioner for |
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Refugees, and permitting use of their own assets to assist in |
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their resettlement............................................. 11 |
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Amendment to H. Res. 650 offered by the Honorable Eliot L. |
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Engel........................................................ 17 |
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H. Con. Res. 129, Expressing support for the goal of ensuring |
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that all Holocaust victims live with dignity, comfort, and |
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security in their remaining years, and urging the Federal |
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Republic of Germany to reaffirm its commitment to this goal |
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through a financial commitment to comprehensively address the |
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unique health and welfare needs of vulnerable Holocaust |
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victims, including home care and other medically prescribed |
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needs.......................................................... 18 |
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Amendment to H. Con. Res. 129 offered by the Honorable Ileana |
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Ros-Lehtinen, a Representative in Congress from the State of |
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Florida...................................................... 23 |
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S. 1252, A bill to authorize a comprehensive strategic approach |
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for United States foreign assistance to developing countries to |
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reduce global poverty and hunger, achieve food and nutrition |
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security, promote inclusive, sustainable, agricultural-led |
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economic growth, improve nutritional outcomes, especially for |
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women and children, build resilience among vulnerable |
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populations, and for other purposes............................ 24 |
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S. 284, A bill to impose sanctions with respect to foreign |
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persons responsible for gross violations of internationally |
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recognized human rights, and for other purposes................ 61 |
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Amendment to S. 284 offered by the Honorable Edward R. Royce, a |
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Representative in Congress from the State of California, and |
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chairman, Committee on Foreign Affairs, and the Honorable |
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Eliot L. Engel............................................... 74 |
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Amendment to S. 284 offered by the Honorable Dana Rohrabacher, a |
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Representative in Congress from the State of California........ 80 |
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LETTERS, STATEMENTS, ETC., SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD |
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APPENDIX |
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Markup notice.................................................... 88 |
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Markup minutes................................................... 89 |
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Markup summary................................................... 91 |
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The Honorable Dana Rohrabacher: Material submitted for the record 92 |
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The Honorable David Cicilline, a Representative in Congress from |
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the State of Rhode Island: Material submitted for the record... 96 |
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WEDNESDAY, MAY 18, 2016 |
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House of Representatives, |
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Committee on Foreign Affairs, |
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Washington, DC. |
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The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:06 a.m., in |
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room 2172, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Edward Royce |
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(chairman of the committee) presiding. |
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Chairman Royce. This committee will come to order. |
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Pursuant to notice, we meet today to mark up several |
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bipartisan measures. So, without objection, all members may |
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have 5 days to submit statements or extraneous material into |
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the record. |
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All members were notified yesterday that we intend to |
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consider our first four measures en bloc. And so, without |
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objection, the following items previously provided to members |
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will be considered en bloc and they are considered as read. |
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We have House Resolution 374, regarding the partnership |
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between Singapore and the United States, and the Engel 78, an |
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amendment in the nature of a substitute. We have House |
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Resolution 650, regarding the safety and security of Iranian |
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dissidents living in Camp Liberty in Iraq, and the Engel |
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amendment 80 to House Resolution 650. We have House Concurrent |
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Resolution 129, regarding the dignity, comfort, and security of |
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surviving Holocaust victims, and the Ros-Lehtinen amendment 45 |
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to House Concurrent Resolution 129. And then we have the Senate |
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bill 1252, the Senate-passed Global Food Security Act. |
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Chairman Royce. And after recognizing myself and the |
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ranking member, I will be pleased to recognize any members |
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seeking recognition to speak once on any of these measures. |
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So let me start by thanking the committee's chairman |
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emeritus, Congresswoman Ros-Lehtinen, and Congressman Deutch |
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for their work on House Concurrent Resolution 129. Now, this is |
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the bill expressing support for Holocaust victims. We have had |
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tens of thousands of victims, unfortunately, of the Holocaust |
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who have come to be found to be living in poverty, living in |
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poverty today, and many of those victims have unique health and |
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assistance needs. |
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Now, Germany has supported a number of aid programs |
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throughout the years in acknowledgment of its moral obligation |
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to help these victims. In fact, the German Government engages |
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with members of the Claims Conference annually to evaluate |
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their programs and identify any unmet needs. This year, gaps in |
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home care, in mental health programs, and long-term medical |
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care were all identified. Yet, despite a commitment to provide |
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this assistance, negotiations on a path forward have slowed. |
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So time is of the essence, of course, as these Holocaust |
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victims suffer while these talks are now stalled. This |
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resolution rightly calls for these talks to be accelerated and |
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for an assistance plan that ensures transparency and |
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accountability to guarantee funds are helping the most |
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vulnerable go forward. |
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After that measure, we are going to consider House |
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Resolution 374, reaffirming Singapore's strategic partnership |
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with the United States. Singapore has long been a very |
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dependable friend and partner for us. We have a deep defense |
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and trade relationship with Singapore. Today we are reaffirming |
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the importance of this partnership to securing peace and |
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stability in the Asia Pacific for several reasons, and one of |
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these is because we appreciate Singapore's enforcement of |
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sanctions on North Korea, as evidenced by a Singapore- |
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registered shipping firm which was found guilty in January of |
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transferring money that could have contributed to North Korea's |
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nuclear-related program. |
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The prosecution of this firm by Singapore sends a very |
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strong signal that Singapore is taking its international |
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obligations very seriously, and we are appreciative of that. |
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And I also want to thank Ranking Member Engel and the chair |
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of our Asia Subcommittee, Matt Salmon, for their helpful input |
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on the text we are considering today. |
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I also want to thank Mr. Poe for his leadership in |
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introducing a very necessary measure, House Resolution 650, |
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regarding the security of Iranian dissidents living in Camp |
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Liberty in Iraq. |
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Camp Liberty is a former U.S. military base outside of |
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Baghdad that is now home to more than 2,000 Iranian refugees |
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who are members of opposition to the regime in Tehran. This |
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past October, 23 residents were killed in a rocket attack on |
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that camp. We have been receiving information that the Iranian |
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regime and their proxies in Iraq are preparing for an imminent |
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attack against the camp's residents. |
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The frustration with this committee is that time after time |
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after time we have had the Iranian regime go forward with |
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attacks on these individuals without this being blocked by the |
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government in Iraq. And in the meantime, that is why Mr. Poe's |
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resolution calls on the administration and calls on the Iraqi |
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Government to work to provide camp residents with the |
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protections they need and to ensure they are expeditiously |
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resettled outside of Iraq in such safe havens as Albania and |
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other countries that have agreed to work with those who have |
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opposed the regime in Iran to make certain that they are safe. |
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I would hope that all of our members would support this |
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resolution. |
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I am also happy today that the committee is restoring |
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regular order and exercising its fundamental responsibility to |
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authorize before appropriating by considering S. 1252, the |
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Global Food Security Act of 2015. Specifically, the bill |
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authorizes, for the first time in 30 years, International |
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Disaster Assistance. This is the essential humanitarian account |
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that provides refugees with tents and sheeting, to water and |
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medicine. |
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But it also authorizes, for the first time, the Emergency |
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Food Security Program, the flexible, efficient, and effective |
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food aid program that helps refugees when and where they need |
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it most so they won't be forced to seek refuge in Europe or |
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beyond, and it advances policies that will improve food |
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security and better enable people to grow their own way out of |
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poverty so they will no longer have to depend upon U.S. foreign |
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assistance, and it does all this without increasing spending. |
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Indeed, this bill, which had much input on the Senate side |
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from both Republicans and Democrats, passed unanimously in the |
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Senate. This committee has held numerous hearings on food |
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security. The bill before us today, which passed the Senate, as |
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I say, with unanimous support, reflects more than 3 years of |
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careful deliberation and inclusive discussions and amendments. |
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So I want to thank Mr. Smith for his leadership on this |
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important legislation and urge members to help get it to the |
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President's desk without further delay. |
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I now recognize the ranking member for his remarks. |
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Mr. Engel. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for convening this |
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markup and for bringing these bipartisan measures forward. I am |
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happy to support them all. I am grateful to all of our members |
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on both sides of the aisle for their hard work. |
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I will speak first about the four measures we are taking up |
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en bloc. I will start with House Resolution 374, which |
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recognizes a half century of independence for our close friend, |
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Singapore. |
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Last year, Singapore celebrated the 50th anniversary of its |
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independence, and this year the United States and Singapore |
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mark 50 years of our bilateral relationship. In that time, |
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Singapore has become an important partner for the United States |
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in the Asia-Pacific region. Over the years, we have seen our |
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economic and security ties grow stronger and stronger. |
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In the years ahead, as American foreign policy focuses more |
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and more on Asia, we know there will be additional |
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opportunities to work together with our partner Singapore on |
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issues from countering violent extremism to addressing climate |
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change, where Singapore as an island nation has been a strong |
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leader, to pushing for peaceful and rules-based resolution to |
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contentious issues like the South China Sea. |
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This resolution underscores the important friendship |
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between our countries, and I am happy to support it. |
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We are also considering House Resolution 650, calling for |
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the safety and security of the Iranian dissidents living in |
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Camp Liberty in Iraq. I want to thank Mr. Poe and Mr. Higgins |
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for working on this measure, which I am proud to cosponsor. |
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I want to welcome our friends wearing their yellow jackets |
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to this committee today. And believe me, we are very concerned |
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about Camp Liberty and we are making everyone know that we are |
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keeping a watchful eye to make sure that those people are |
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protected. |
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The residents of Camp Liberty deserve to live in dignity |
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and without fear of violence. Last October's rocket attacks on |
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the unarmed residents of Camp Liberty by a Shia militia with |
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ties to Iran killed 24 people. It is the height of cowardice. |
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We are still waiting for the perpetrators of this attack to be |
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brought to justice. |
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I would also note that my amendment to this resolution |
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highlights Albania's commitments to resettling Camp Liberty |
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residents. They have resettled 1,000 already and are |
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recommitted to settling 2,000 more. I have worked closely with |
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the Albanian Government in all the years I have been in |
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Congress. This shows a tremendous generosity of spirit and |
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commitment to care for the most vulnerable on the part of the |
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people of Albania. This resolution sends a message that we |
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stand with the men, women, and children in Camp Liberty and |
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want to see quick and meaningful action to bring them relief. |
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I will turn now to House Concurrent Resolution 129, which |
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calls for Germany and for all of us to redouble our efforts to |
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care for those who were victims of humanity's darkest chapter, |
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the Holocaust. As a spokesman for Germany's Chancellor Angela |
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Merkel recently said, ``All Germans know the history of the |
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murderous race mania of the Nazis that led to the break with |
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civilization that was the Holocaust. We know that |
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responsibility for this crime against humanity is German, and |
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very much our own.'' |
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Part of that responsibility, of course, is to generously |
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assist those survivors who endured this evil firsthand. In a |
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spirit of goodwill and friendship, this measure calls on |
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Germany's leaders to do whatever it takes to properly care for |
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this generation, which is getting older and dying, and I am |
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glad to support it. |
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Lastly, I am glad to support Senate bill 1252, the Senate's |
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version of the Global Food Security Act, and I was pleased that |
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the House passed our version a few weeks ago. It is simply |
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unconscionable that nearly 800 million people around the world |
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would live without knowing how they will get their next meal. |
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Half of all the deaths of children under 5 years old are tied |
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to malnutrition. |
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The United States has a responsibility to help meet this |
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challenge, both by helping people feed themselves and by taking |
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a hard look at the root causes behind poverty, hunger, and |
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instability. This bill prioritizes foreign assistance programs |
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aimed at reducing global poverty and hunger. It also authorizes |
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a strong investment in the administration's signature effort |
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Feed the Future, as well as other State Department and USAID |
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initiatives. These efforts deserve our continued support, and I |
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am glad we are moving ahead with this bill. |
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So thank you again, Mr. Chairman, thanks to all our |
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members, again, on both sides of the aisle, and I yield back. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you, Mr. Engel. |
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Our chairman emeritus, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen. |
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Ms. Ros-Lehtinen. Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman and |
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Ranking Member. I want to thank my good friend and south |
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Florida colleague, Congressman Ted Deutch, for our work |
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together in crafting H. Con. Res. 129 in support of Holocaust |
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survivors. |
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The United States is home to nearly one-quarter of all |
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survivors, and approximately 15,000 live in south Florida. We |
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both have many constituents who are survivors, and as their |
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Representatives in Congress, we have an obligation to ensure |
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that we are doing everything in our power on their behalf. But |
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many are also close and personal friends, and as their friend, |
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I also have an obligation to be their voice and express their |
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frustration and concerns. |
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Since the 1950s, Germany has recognized that it has a moral |
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obligation to Holocaust survivors and their heirs, and to |
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Germany's credit, it has attempted to ensure survivors' needs |
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are met and it has attempted to resolve some of the lingering |
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injustices. |
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However, even by Germany's own admission, its efforts to |
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date have been inadequate at addressing the medical, mental |
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health, and home care needs of many of the world's survivors. |
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Nearly half of all survivors live at or below the poverty line. |
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This is not only shameful, it is inexcusable. |
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These survivors have lived through the unimaginable. The |
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pain and suffering they have endured has left physical and |
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mental scars that cannot be healed and horrifying memories that |
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can never be forgotten. These experiences mean their medical, |
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mental health, and home care needs are more complex than other |
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elderly individuals. And that is why this resolution is so |
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important, and that is why we are urging Germany to act |
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expeditiously to honor its commitment and fulfill its moral |
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obligations to all survivors. |
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These individuals have very little time. The system |
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currently in place is full of red tape, riddled with layer upon |
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layer of bureaucracy. The Claims Conference itself is known to |
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have come under increased scrutiny for the many cases of fraud |
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and abuse. And the proof that this process isn't working is |
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that nearly half of all survivors, as I said, still live in |
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poverty, and that under the current system many died long |
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before their time as a result. Survivors deserve better than |
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that. They deserve to live out their days in dignity and |
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comfort. The right thing to do is for Germany to provide for |
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all the survivors' needs directly and to do so transparently |
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and efficiently with the urgency that circumstances demand. |
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I hope that all of my colleagues will join us in urging the |
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German Government to do more, to do the right thing, to honor |
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its obligations and commitments with the urgency demanded by |
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justice and decency. I sincerely believe Chancellor Merkel's |
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heartfelt expression of concern about Germany's responsibility |
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to survivors and leadership on moral issues will finally |
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resolve this longstanding tragedy for survivors. |
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And, Mr. Chairman, I would also like to briefly say some |
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words of praise and support for Judge Poe's resolution, House |
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Resolution 650, that calls for the safety and security for the |
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residents of Camp Liberty in Iraq. It is no secret that the |
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Iraqi Government completely failed to protect these individuals |
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in Camp Liberty, not living up to its commitments made in the |
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December 2011 Memorandum of Understanding. |
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Camp Liberty has never been given adequate protection. And |
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now, with the Iran nuclear deal and Iran getting more money to |
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carry out its illicit activities, I fear that Liberty will be |
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an even easier and larger target for the regime than before. |
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Albania has stepped up and offered these residents a |
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respite from the terror. So for that, I thank Albania for its |
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courage and compassion. However, I remain concerned that the |
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United Nations isn't placing the urgency required to move these |
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residents to Albania. There should be at least weekly charters |
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for Liberty residents to Albania. There is simply no |
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justification for anything less. |
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I will continue to press our administration and other |
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governments to do whatever we can to help the Liberty residents |
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as soon as possible, and I will continue to support all of |
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these Liberty residents until every last one of them is free |
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from the threat of attack. I support Judge Poe's resolution and |
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I commend him for his leadership on this issue. |
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Ranking Member. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you. |
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We now go to Mr. Brad Sherman of California. |
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Mr. Sherman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for bringing these |
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bills up. I have cosponsored the three House bills and support |
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all bills. I join with the chair and the chair emeritus and |
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especially the ranking member in their remarks in favor of |
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these bills. |
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I want to speak briefly about H. Res. 650, a resolution |
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that calls for providing safety and security to the Iranian |
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dissidents living in Camp Liberty. The MEK, also known as the |
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People's Mujahedin Organization of Iran, is an Iranian exile |
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opposition group that was opposed to the Shah's dictatorial |
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regime and is opposed to the current regime. The MEK has played |
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a critical role in revealing information about Iran's illegal |
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nuclear program. |
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There is a tendency to look at anything in the world |
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through the lens of political controversies in the United |
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States, but I think, regardless of whether the Iran deal is the |
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best way or not the best way to deal with Iran's nuclear |
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program, we all owe a debt of gratitude to the MEK for bringing |
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this information to the world and causing the United States and |
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the world to focus on the problem. |
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Approximately 3,000 MEK members residing in Camp Ashraf |
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were transferred to Camp Liberty in 2012. The MEK members were |
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protected by the U.S. military until we transferred authority |
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to Iraq in 2009. Since then, the United Nations High |
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Commissioner for Refugees, which has recognized the MEK as |
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persons of concern and in need of international protection, has |
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worked to resettle MEK members to various countries, including |
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and especially Albania. Albania has already taken approximately |
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1,000 MEK members and has committed to resettling an additional |
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2,000, and I commend the ranking member for his amendment that |
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recognizes the important contribution Albania has made and has |
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offered to make in the future. |
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The Iraqis promised to provide security protection to the |
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MEK members in Iraq after the U.S. transferred authority to the |
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Iraqi Government. However, to date, they have not provided the |
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necessary protection. We have a complicated relationship with |
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the government in Baghdad. It is under siege, it relies on |
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American support, and it should be called upon very strongly by |
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the United States to meet its minimum human rights obligations |
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to protect Camp Liberty. In 2015, an Iraqi Shiite militia |
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launched rockets against Camp Liberty, killed 24 people, |
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injured dozens, and of course the Iraqi Government did nothing. |
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This resolution, and I commend Judge Poe for bringing it |
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forward, details the history of violence against Camp Liberty |
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residents, including the most recent attack in 2015. The |
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resolution also calls on the Iraqi Government to improve |
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security at Camp Liberty. In addition, H. Res. 650 calls on the |
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U.S. Government to do a better job of pushing Iraq to uphold |
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its promises and urges the U.S. Government to work with Albania |
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and the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees in the resettlement |
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process. |
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I strongly support this resolution and the other bills that |
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are part of the en bloc. And I yield back. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you. |
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We now go to Mr. Dana Rohrabacher of California. |
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Mr. Rohrabacher. It has been a black mark on our country on |
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many occasions when we did not stick by the people who stuck by |
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us. And I have an amendment to the bill that will be coming to |
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the floor, or is on the floor today, talking about Dr. Afridi |
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and how we have allowed him to lay and sit in a dungeon in |
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Pakistan while we still give foreign aid and military equipment |
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to the people who have incarcerated him. And these people, of |
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course, are putting in jail and persecuting a man who helped us |
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bring to justice the murderer of 3,000 Americans on 9/11. |
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Well, what we have here today is a chance to make something |
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right or to try to take a step in the right direction, reclaim |
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some of our honor as a country. Those residents of Camp Liberty |
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are part of an organization that have long opposed the mullah |
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dictatorship in Iran. The reason they were in that camp and the |
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reason that they had left Iran was because they opposed an |
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enemy of the United States. The mullahs have made no beans |
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about it, they believe the United States is the great Satan and |
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are willing do to things and have done things that have caused |
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the loss of life of Americans and have put our people in |
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jeopardy. Yet, here again, we have let down the people who are |
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putting their lives on the line for us and we have just let |
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them drift. |
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I think it is time we reclaim our honor, and I support this |
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resolution, H. Res. 650. And if this does not work, let's just |
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commit ourselves to saying the people of Camp Liberty put |
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themselves on the line for us, they risked their lives for us, |
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they are now in great danger, one way or the other we will move |
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to save them. And if need be, we need to bring these people to |
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the United States and let them be free from the threat of the |
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mullahs who also threaten our own people. |
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So this is the time for us to express solidarity with those |
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brave souls who have expressed solidarity with the people of |
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the United States in a desperate and a very dangerous |
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situation. |
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I yield back. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you, Mr. Rohrabacher. |
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We now go to Mr. Ted Deutch of Florida. |
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Mr. Deutch. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman Royce and |
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Ranking Member Engel, for holding today's markup and for |
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advancing these important legislative efforts. |
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I would like to speak about H. Con. Res. 129, which calls |
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upon Germany to fully fund the needs of aging Holocaust |
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survivors. I would like to start by thanking my friend, |
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Chairman Emeritus Ros-Lehtinen, for partnering with me in this |
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effort and for her longstanding commitment to championing the |
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needs of Holocaust survivors. |
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I also want to acknowledge the efforts of so many of our |
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constituents, Ms. Ros-Lehtinen's and my own, who have on their |
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own come to Washington over the years to talk about the |
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difficulties that they and so many other face. In particular, |
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Jack Rubin, a constituent and friend who has testified in this |
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body before, deserves thanks for his tireless advocacy on |
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behalf of survivors. |
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One of the great privileges I have serving in Congress is |
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representing a large number of Holocaust survivors, and earlier |
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this month I attended a Yom HaShoah, a Holocaust Remembrance |
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Day ceremony in my district. I have been attending the |
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ceremonies for more than a decade and every year there are more |
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and more empty seats. A constituent of mine recently told me |
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that it feels like every day he gets a call to attend another |
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funeral of a survivor. |
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In short, the survivor population is aging and their needs |
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are increasing. Unfortunately for the roughly 100,000 survivors |
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living in the United States, tens of thousands of them live in |
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poverty. They cannot afford and thus do not receive sufficient |
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medical care, home care, and other vital life-sustaining |
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services. |
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Today, we have a chance to ensure that this population, |
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these survivors who made it through the darkest time in |
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history, can live out their lives with the dignity they so |
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deserve. |
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For decades, the German Government has remained committed |
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to funding survivor needs through annual negotiations and |
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appropriations, and we appreciate this ongoing commitment. I |
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know that this is an issue that Chancellor Merkel cares deeply |
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about as she has personally reaffirmed that commitment to me. |
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Unfortunately, despite the payments of the German |
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Government throughout the years, significant gaps in survivor |
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care remain, and German officials have acknowledged this |
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shortfall. The shortfall is the most dramatic when it comes to |
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home care. For survivors, the need to stay in their homes as |
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they age is critical. As they approach their late 80s and 90s |
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and beyond, they rely more on home care services. |
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Under the current system home care is capped so that even |
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the most infirm, isolated, and poor Nazi victims can receive |
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only a maximum of 25 hours of home care. This amounts to 5 |
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hours a day, 5 days a week. |
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In addition, current funding is inadequate to provide for |
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additional hours. Take, for example, a constituent of mine who |
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is 91 years old and survived Bergen-Belsen. He fell last month |
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and suffered a fracture, followed by rehabilitation. He likely |
|
needs a bone procedure on his back due to the recent fall and |
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he has suffered from other debilitating circumstances in the |
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past that have limited his mobility ever since. |
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He requires assistance with all activities of daily living. |
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He and his wife share a total of 48 hours a week home care. But |
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as a result of the recent circumstances and his overall medical |
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history, he needs round-the-clock care, and it is, frankly, |
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unconscionable that he does not receive it and that his hours |
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are limited. |
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Now, many of those who survived also lack family support to |
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help them with their daily needs. They need transportation to |
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doctor's appointments or help preparing meals. They deserve to |
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be able to access the most basic care. They deserve to be able |
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to meet their mental and medical health needs. |
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Now, thankfully--thankfully--we have the opportunity right |
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now to alleviate the suffering of Holocaust survivors. There |
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are negotiations ongoing right now with the German Government. |
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And this is possibly the last opportunity for Germany to |
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reaffirm its commitment to comprehensively address the unique |
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health and welfare needs of vulnerable Holocaust victims by |
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increasing funding for survivor care so that every survivor can |
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have his or her needs met. |
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Now, no amount of money can ever erase the horrors faced by |
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Nazi victims, but there is a moral responsibility to ensure |
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that they can receive the vital services and the medical care |
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to live out the remainder of their days with dignity and in |
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comfort. |
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Mr. Chairman, the resolution before us today urges the |
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German Government to fulfill its moral and financial commitment |
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to the victims of the Holocaust. It puts Congress on record |
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declaring that the time to act is now and we will fight and |
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watch until this is done. No more limitations on home care |
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hours. Fund the needs, all of them. Complete the negotiations. |
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The time for meaningful action is now. And I urge my colleagues |
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to support this resolution. |
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you, Mr. Deutch. |
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Congressman Joe Wilson from South Carolina. |
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Mr. Wilson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am grateful that |
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once again, with your leadership and the ranking member, this |
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committee is considering multiple pieces of bipartisan |
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legislation. |
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House Concurrent Resolution 129, sponsored by Chairman |
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Emeritus Ros-Lehtinen, is particularly important to ensuring |
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that victims of the Holocaust are able to live comfortable and |
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happy lives. This legislation also urges the Federal Republic |
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of Germany to ensure adequate resources to address the unique |
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medical needs that these individuals face due to their horrific |
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experiences during the Second World War. The United States must |
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never forget the tragedy of the Holocaust and do all that we |
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can to ensure that the rest of the world does not either. |
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Next, I am grateful that the Senate version of the Global |
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Food Security Act of 2016 continues to address this critically |
|
important issue, increasing accountability and congressional |
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oversight of foreign assistance meant to address food shortages |
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abroad. One of the great challenges that developing nations |
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have and face is the health and well-being of their citizens. |
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It is particularly encouraging to see Congress acting to help |
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our friends and allies abroad. |
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Today, the committee is also taking important steps, with |
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the leadership of our chairman, in recognizing the cooperation |
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between the United States and Singapore; protecting Iranian |
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dissidents, with the leadership of Judge Ted Poe; and imposing |
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sanctions against human rights abusers. I applaud the great |
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work behind this legislation and urge their passage. And I |
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yield back my time. |
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Chairman Royce. Mr. Brendan Boyle of Pennsylvania. |
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Mr. Boyle. I thank the chairman and ranking member for |
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taking up today's measures. I would like to speak on one of |
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them in particular, H. Con. Res. 129, introduced by |
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Subcommittee Chairwoman Ros-Lehtinen and Ranking Member Deutch. |
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I thank both of them for introducing this legislation and I am |
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proud to cosponsor it as it has an important impact for my |
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district of Philadelphia and Montgomery County, PA, which has a |
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significant population of Holocaust survivors, a number of whom |
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are personal friends. |
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This resolution urges Germany to provide increased |
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assistance for the most critical needs of Holocaust survivors. |
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While I appreciate Germany's financial and moral commitment to |
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Holocaust survivors thus far, even German officials admit that |
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current gaps in assistance exist today. |
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Constituents of mine, a married couple age 86 and 93 who |
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are Holocaust survivors, reside in a two-story row house with |
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stair glides provided by the Jewish Family and Children Service |
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of Philadelphia through the Claims Conference. Their two |
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children reside out of State. The husband has been having |
|
significant physical and cognitive decline over the past few |
|
years. His attending needs are great, but they are not medical |
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at this time. He should be able to remain safely in his home |
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with enough support. |
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His wife is unable to attend to most of his needs due to |
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her own aging issues. The greatest issue for her husband is |
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that he is a fall risk due to strength and ambulation issues. |
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He is also suffering from wartime nightmares and wakes up |
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through the night and needs to be calmed down. His wife cannot |
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do this as she must get sleep, lack of sleep greatly affecting |
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her own health. |
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So if JFCS of Philadelphia was able to provide more hours |
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of home care for them both, they would have an aide take care |
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of both of their needs. Her needs are suffering as a result of |
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her taking care of his needs. |
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The Holocaust survivor population is aging. They are now in |
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their 80s and 90s. It is important to acknowledge that an |
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estimated 100,000 Holocaust survivors live in the United States |
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and--and I think this is the most galling statistic--nearly |
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half of all Holocaust survivors live below the poverty line. |
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Let's make sure these brave survivors live out their lives in |
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dignity. And I yield back. |
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Chairman Royce. Judge Ted Poe of Texas. |
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Mr. Poe. I thank the chairman, and I would like to discuss |
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a matter that we have discussed a lot since 2009, and that is |
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the folks, the good folks in, first, Camp Ashraf, and then Camp |
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Liberty, who, while they have been in these camps, bad things |
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have happened to them. |
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Every time we meet, it seems that there have been more |
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assaults, more murders, more rocket attacks against these folks |
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who have lived in these two areas. Many of them are here today. |
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Their families are in Camp Liberty. Some of their families have |
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been killed since 2009. And I admire their perseverance. |
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But there are about 2,000 members of the Iranian opposition |
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movement MEK. Once again, they are unarmed and they live in |
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Camp Liberty, Iraq. They live there because they have been |
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forced out of Iran, a country that tolerates no political |
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opposition, and if they were to be returned to Iran they would |
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be killed. |
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The mullahs in Iran fear and hate the MEK. MEK basically |
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just wants freedom in Iran, free elections. But it turns out |
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that the long arms of the mullahs in Tehran reach out to Iraq, |
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where these folks have been for a long time. Last October, |
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residents came under intense rocket attacks in Iraq. Twenty- |
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four people were killed, dozens of others were injured, and the |
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IRGC claimed the assault and warned that more would follow. |
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These kinds of attacks--there have been seven, if I can |
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remember correctly, on the people in the MEK that live in |
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Iraq--have claimed the lives of 140 people. Not one person has |
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been held accountable for these murders. Not one person has |
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been arrested or gone to jail for these murders that occurred |
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in these camps. Thirteen hundred others have been injured and |
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seven have been kidnapped. The residents live in constant fear |
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of another attack. Their only crime is opposing the tyrants in |
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Iran. |
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H. Res. 650 condemns these attacks. I want to thank the |
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ranking member for his amendment that makes this resolution |
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even better. But the resolution condemns the attacks and urges |
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the Iraqi Government to bring those responsible to justice. |
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Those in the Iraqi Government who claim links to the IRGC |
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should not be put in charge of the camp. Several years ago, |
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Chairman Rohrabacher and myself went to Iraq and we wanted to |
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see Camp Ashraf, and the Government of Iraq was so irate that |
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we wanted to visit what was happening in the camp before they |
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were moved to Liberty that Chairman Rohrabacher and myself were |
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told to leave Iraq. We were evicted, kicked out of the country. |
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That is how much support the Iraqi Government gives to the |
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mullahs in Iran about the camps. Of course, we didn't leave. We |
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stayed anyway and did what we wanted to do. But that shows you |
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the Government of Iraq's position on that, because we just |
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merely wanted to see for ourselves the living conditions of |
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these, I think, very patriotic people. |
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So Iraq is not a safe place for those residents. They |
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should be resettled to a third country. As Iran's influence |
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continues to grow in the region, we must show our strong |
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support for these dissidents. They want freedom for their |
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fellow countrymen, but for the last 30 years that pursuit has |
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cost them and they have had to flee the country they love and |
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lose many of their family members. We should do all we can to |
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urge their protection. |
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It is important that the Government of Iraq allow the |
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residents to sell the property at Camp Liberty and Camp Ashraf. |
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It is their property. It does not belong to the Government of |
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Iraq. And once again, I want to thank Ranking Member Engel for |
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his amendment that makes this clear. As it stands now, the |
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Iraqi Government is only allowing the residents to take the |
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clothes that they are wearing on their back. They can't even |
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take their laptop computers. This is their property. It doesn't |
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belong to Iraq. And the folks that leave Camp Liberty and go |
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other places should be allowed to take their personal property |
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whatever country that they go to. This is only right. Justice |
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demands this. So I thank the chairman and the ranking member |
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for their support of this legislation, this resolution, and I |
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hope that we don't have to meet again and there are more |
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casualties in Liberty because we have not helped get these good |
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folks resettled to another country. |
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I yield back. Thanks for the remaining time. |
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Chairman Royce. Well, thank you for your eloquence on this |
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issue, Mr. Poe, but also thank you for introducing it. |
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Are there any other members seeking time? |
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Mr. Chabot of Ohio. |
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Mr. Chabot. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will be brief. And I |
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am supportive of H. Res. 650 and 129, but I will speak briefly |
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on H. Res. 374. |
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As former chair of the Asia and the Pacific Subcommittee, I |
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always paid very close attention to the U.S.-Singapore |
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relationship, and it is a very tiny country who really holds |
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exceptional importance to the U.S. We have a longstanding |
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security relationship with Singapore, and our commercial ties |
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with them have strengthened significantly over the past half |
|
century. |
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I think that this link in all likelihood is only going to |
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intensify as the global economy further intertwines and our |
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partners in the Asia Pacific place greater emphasis on an |
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American presence there to help combat growing maritime |
|
threats, specifically from the PRC, from China. As we know, |
|
they are not only building islands now, much to the chagrin of |
|
their neighbors from Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, et |
|
cetera, but they are actually militarizing those islands right |
|
now. And this administration has done not very much, virtually |
|
nothing of substance to push back on this, which is a real |
|
shame. |
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This legislation recognizes the importance of ensuring a |
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strong U.S.-Singapore strategic partnership that encourages |
|
regional stability and highlights the significance of the U.S.- |
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Singapore economic relationship. The bill promotes greater |
|
cooperation on cybersecurity and information-sharing efforts, |
|
both issues that are exceptionally relevant to protecting the |
|
region, both militarily and economically. So I am very |
|
supportive of this one in particular and the other ones that I |
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mentioned and urge my colleagues to support them. And yield |
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back. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you. |
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Hearing no further requests for recognition, are there any |
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further amendments? Hearing none, the Chair moves that the |
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committee adopt the items considered en bloc. |
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All those in favor, say aye. |
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All opposed, no. |
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In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it, and the |
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measures considered en bloc are agreed to. And without |
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objection, the measures considered en bloc are ordered |
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favorably reported, as amended, and staff is directed to make |
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any technical and conforming changes. |
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Also, without objection, the Chair is authorized to seek |
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House consideration of those measures under suspension of the |
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rules. |
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Moving on to our final measure, I now call up Senate bill |
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284, the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act. |
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Without objection, the Senate-passed text of S. 284, as |
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modified by Royce 102, the bipartisan manager's amendment |
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provided previously, will be considered base text for purposes |
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of amendment. |
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Chairman Royce. After recognizing myself and the ranking |
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member, I will be pleased to recognize any member seeking |
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recognition to speak on the underlying bill before we move on |
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to the amendments. |
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Now, this bill, the Global Magnitsky Human Rights |
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Accountability Act, authorizes sanctions against foreign |
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nationals responsible for significant corruption or responsible |
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for gross violations of internationally recognized human rights |
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which are committed against individuals seeking to promote |
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human rights or to expose government corruption. |
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Today's manager's amendment strengthens the Senate text, |
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specifically, the amendment requires that any sanctions |
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recommendations made to the President must have the support |
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from both the chair and the ranking member of the requesting |
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committee. By mandating a joint referral, this bill ensures |
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bipartisan support for any action the President may take. |
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In addition, the amendment brings the Senate text into |
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compliance with House rules regarding sunsets. The inclusion of |
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a sunset to this legislation ensures that Congress has the |
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opportunity and has the responsibility to review the |
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application of sanctions authority after 3 years of being on |
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the books. |
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I want to thank the ranking member and others who worked |
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with us to craft this amendment. I urge all members to support |
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the bill's passage. And we will go to--yeah, Mr. Engel is on |
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his way. Do any other members seek recognition? |
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Mr. Rohrabacher. |
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Mr. Rohrabacher. I rise in support of the legislation and |
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what it is trying to accomplish. And let's make very clear that |
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I have a long track record of supporting efforts by our |
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Government in the area of civil liberties and especially in |
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terms of opposing kleptocracies and violent dictatorships, et |
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cetera. And in this case, what we are actually trying to do is |
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right. We are putting in place a mechanism in order to make |
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sure that those people who control other countries and have |
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committed major human rights abuses don't get off scot-free, |
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and that is a good thing. |
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And let me just note that my amendment that will be coming |
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up afterwards does not in any way disagree with the purpose of |
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the bill. I will be voting for the bill. But my amendment will |
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question as to whether or not the title should include a |
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specific name of a case. |
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So I rise in support of this legislation. I think it is |
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what Americans should be for. That is standing up to gangsters |
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and brutes overseas who commit violent acts and are engaged |
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with human rights abuses. However, there is a question about |
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the name, which I will be bringing up in an amendment later on. |
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So thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you, Mr. Rohrabacher. |
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Mr. Cicilline of Rhode Island. |
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Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to begin by |
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thanking you and Ranking Member Engel for holding this markup |
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today. |
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As always, I am pleased that this committee has come |
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together in a spirit of bipartisanship to pass legislation that |
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deals with a variety of important issues and was very proud to |
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cosponsor the bills we just passed that were introduced and |
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passed in a bipartisan way. And I appreciate the opportunity to |
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speak this morning in strong support of the Global Magnitsky |
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Human Rights Accountability Act, the bill introduced in the |
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Senate by Senator Cardin and here in the House by our colleague |
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Chris Smith. |
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This important legislation builds upon the achievements of |
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the Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act, which was signed |
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into law in 2012, and has been an important tool in targeting |
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those in the Russian Government who are complicit in the death |
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and subsequent coverup of Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky. |
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The Global Magnitsky bill authorizes the executive branch |
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to impose sanctions against individuals responsible for gross |
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human rights violations against persons seeking to expose |
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government corruption or promote human rights and freedoms. By |
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expanding the scope of the sanctions beyond the Russian |
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Government, this legislation sends an important message to |
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those who seek to suppress human rights around the world that |
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they will not be able to benefit from the U.S. financial system |
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or travel to this country if they partake in gross abuses or |
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corruption, which, unfortunately, we have seen with increasing |
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regularity around the world in recent years. |
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I commend the leadership of Senator Cardin and of my |
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colleague Congressman Smith in introducing this legislation and |
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getting us to this point. |
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According to Freedom House, freedom around the world has |
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been in steady decline for 10 years, and 2015 had the steepest |
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decline yet. The war in Syria, the resulting refugee crisis, |
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the rise of extremism have all contributed to crackdowns in the |
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name of so-called security and a general decline of human |
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rights in every region of the world. |
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I am particularly concerned by the uptick in abuses against |
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vulnerable populations who are already at grave risk in many |
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countries. In particular, lesbian, gay, bisexual, and |
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transgender communities around the world have experienced |
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horrific violence and violations of basic human rights that |
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puts individuals in these categories at grave risk for injury |
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or death simply because of who they are. |
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Yesterday, the world commemorated the International Day |
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Against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia, which is |
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dedicated to raising awareness of the terrible discrimination, |
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violence, and other violations committed against LGBT |
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communities around the world. To be clear, we are not talking |
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about marriage or bathroom laws in the international context. |
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LGBT people abroad face horrific persecution, threats, constant |
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harassment, lack of access to health care, marginalization, |
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violence, and death because of their status or perceived status |
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of being gay, lesbian, or transgender. |
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Some illustrations. In The Gambia and sub-Saharan Africa, |
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President Yahya Jammeh has threatened to personally ``slit the |
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throats'' of gay men found in his country and has arrested and |
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tortured a number of gay men, including one who was beaten so |
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badly in detention he needed to be hospitalized. In Indonesia, |
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this year the Defense Minister publicly called the LGBT |
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community a threat that must be defeated with ``kind of modern |
|
warfare.'' Last year in Brazil, a transgender teen was beaten |
|
to death and two Sao Paulo police officers implicated in her |
|
death were freed because the judge did not believe they |
|
``seemed like criminals.'' |
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Numerous reports of horrific murders of allegedly gay men |
|
have come out of territories controlled by the Islamic State, |
|
including men being thrown off tall buildings, then stoned to |
|
death by crowds incited by homophobic rhetoric. In Russia, the |
|
Duma is considering legislation to follow up on its infamous |
|
anti-homosexual propaganda bill with legislation making it |
|
illegal to come out as gay, punishable with jail time. |
|
Unfortunately, I could go on and on with additional |
|
examples. |
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Because of the particularly heinous nature of the |
|
violations routinely committed against LGBT communities around |
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the world, I intended to offer an amendment to this legislation |
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clarifying that the persecution of the LGBT individuals and |
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those protecting their rights are included in the abuses |
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sanctionable by this legislation. However, it is my |
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understanding, after speaking with our chairman on this |
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subject, that he agrees with my assessment that these rights |
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are, indeed, included in the legislation. |
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And with that, I would probably yield before I conclude to |
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the chairman. |
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Chairman Royce. Well, yes, thank you for raising this |
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point. |
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Certainly, around the world we have witnessed some truly |
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severe human rights violations, some directed at people solely |
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on the basis of their professed or perceived sexual orientation |
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or gender. In a number of African countries, gay people are at |
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risk of being killed or jailed for life, and in places like |
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Russia and Iran, we see authorities trying to ban even the |
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discussion of sexual orientation. And, of course, there was the |
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brutal murder of a USAID employee and gay rights activist in |
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Bangladesh just last month. This was an abhorrent crime. |
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And I want to make clear that the internationally |
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recognized human rights referenced in the Global Magnitsky Act |
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apply to all people, including those who identify as LGBT, and |
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the committee is planning a hearing for later this year on the |
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alarming threats to fundamental human rights worldwide. |
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So I look forward to working with the gentleman on that, |
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and today it is important that we advance this legislation that |
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promises to improve human rights of all. |
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Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank you for |
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your consideration of this. I look forward to working with you |
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and other members of this committee to ensure that the rights |
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of LGBT individuals and other vulnerable minorities receive due |
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consideration here at the committee, and I think a hearing on |
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this matter would be a great step forward. And with that, I |
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yield back. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you. |
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Other members seeking recognition? |
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Mr. Higgins. |
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Mr. Higgins. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Ranking Member |
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Engel. Thank you for holding this important markup today. I am |
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pleased that we will be considering House Resolution 650, a |
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resolution introduced by Congressman Ted Poe, which would |
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reiterate our strong commitment to the residents of Camp |
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Liberty by providing for their safety and expedited |
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resettlement. |
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Since 2009, seven attacks at Camp Liberty and Camp Ashraf |
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have killed 140 residents, with over 1,000 wounded. Despite |
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pledges to provide for their safety, the Government of Iraq has |
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failed to live up to this commitment and some of its forces may |
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have been complicit in these attacks. |
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Approximately 2,000 residents of Camp Liberty are currently |
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awaiting resettlement by the United Nations High Commissioner |
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for Refugees. We must work with the U.N. and the Iraqi |
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Government to expeditiously relocate these individuals before |
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any more harm befalls them. In the interim, the Government of |
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Iraq must provide for the safety and security of this |
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vulnerable population. |
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I look forward to the passage of this resolution. I yield |
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back the balance of my time. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you, Mr. Higgins. |
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Other members seeking recognition? |
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Mr. Engel. |
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Mr. Engel. Mr. Chairman, again, thank you for convening |
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this markup. I also want to thank you for bringing forward our |
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last bill, the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability |
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Act. This is a product of many years of hard work by |
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Representatives Smith and McGovern here in the House and by |
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Senators Cardin and McCain in the Senate. |
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This bill would authorize the President to sanction foreign |
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individuals who commit gross violations of human rights, as |
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well as government officials involved in significant acts of |
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corruption. It would allow the chairs and ranking members of |
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relevant congressional committees to send names of potential |
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violators to the administration, and requires a determination |
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of whether those people meet the criteria for sanctions. |
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This measure builds on the 2012 Magnitsky Act, which |
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created a similar process for people inside Russia. This |
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legislation would send a powerful message that human rights |
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abusers and corruption aren't just internal matters, they are |
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the concern of all countries, and they should not be permitted |
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to go on with impunity. |
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So I urge support for this important legislation. Thank |
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you, again, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to all our members. I yield |
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back. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you, Mr. Engel. |
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We now go to Mr. Brad Sherman of Los Angeles. |
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Mr. Sherman. First, I want to commend the gentleman from |
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Rhode Island for focusing on LGBT rights, and especially thank |
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the chairman for his comments, the colloquy, and the upcoming |
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hearing. LGBT rights are human rights. |
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I heard the gentleman from Orange County on the name |
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``Magnitsky'' being in the bill. On the one hand, this bill |
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really isn't focused on Magnitsky or on Russia. It deals with |
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our human rights approach worldwide. And the Magnitsky case is |
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inspiring to many. I know the gentleman from California |
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believes that some of what we believe about that case is not |
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true. But I would point out that there are many other inspiring |
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cases. |
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On the other hand, the author of a bill who works so hard |
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on it usually gets to suggest a title. This bill has gone |
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through the Senate, has been the product of all the Senators |
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and House Members that the chair named. So I realize the |
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gentleman from California feels strongly that Magnitsky's name |
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should not be part of the title and look forward to the |
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comments of our colleagues here on that issue. |
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Chairman Royce. Does the member have an amendment at the |
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desk? And I am not suggesting that the gentleman should offer |
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an amendment. I am just commenting that he makes an interesting |
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point, and I see both sides of that point. And I am not trying |
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to inspire any action by any member. |
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Mr. Rohrabacher. I have an amendment at the desk. |
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Chairman Royce. The clerk will report the amendment. |
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Ms. Marter. Amendment to S. 284, offered by Mr. Rohrabacher |
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of California, page 2, line 2, strike ``Magnitsky.'' |
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Chairman Royce. The Chair recognizes the author to explain |
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the amendment. |
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Mr. Rohrabacher. Yes, my amendment is very simple. I mean, |
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it would change the name of the bill simply by removing the |
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word ``Magnitsky'' from the bill. So we would then call it the |
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Global Human Rights Accountability Act, which is more accurate |
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than to put ``Magnitsky'' in the middle of that. I mean, the |
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fact is this bill isn't just about Russia. It is about setting |
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an international standard. By putting ``Magnitsky'' in the |
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title, we are taking a gratuitous slap at Russia and we are |
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confusing people about the real purpose of this bill. |
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The purpose of this bill is not just to attack Russia. We |
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already have legislation doing that, specifically on Magnitsky. |
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And basically, we should be very proud that we are setting an |
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international standard and not confuse it by adding one case. |
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Let's note about this case, there has been a lot of talk about |
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it. It is confusing. We need to look into this and ask some |
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serious questions before we just accept what is being handed to |
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us. |
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In the 1990s, Russia was in economic chaos as it shifted |
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from state control to a market economy. At this time, you had |
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very notorious characters arise in Russia and coming from |
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outside of Russia to exploit that situation for their own |
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situation. We saw the rise of oligarchs who were not just |
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Russians, but other people as well, and they ended up walking |
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away with billions of dollars. Some of these foreigners, |
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including Mr. Browder, who was Mr. Magnitsky's boss, walked |
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away with billions of dollars. Let me note that Mr. Browder is |
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not a U.S. citizen. He gave up his citizenship at a time to |
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shield himself from major tax liabilities. So we have people |
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there. |
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And I notice that he sent a letter to us talking about |
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kleptocracy, and here is a man himself who made billions of |
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dollars in the middle of this chaos. And there is a major |
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question--and that is what this whole issue is about--as to |
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whether $230 million worth of taxes the Russian Government |
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deserved from those billions of dollars made by Mr. Browder, |
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whether or not those--that he legitimately paid this or whether |
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or not he was trying to shield that. |
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Mr. Magnitsky was the man who helped keep his books. He was |
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arrested. And the question is whether or not what he went |
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through and the horrible confinement that he was kept in and |
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treatment that he was given was the Russians trying to find |
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out--have him say where is the money that Browder hid, or is it |
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that he had some information that showed corruption on the part |
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of the Russians. And I will have to say that it is possible |
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either one of those explanations could be true, but we don't |
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know enough. |
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I would put for the record, submit for the record now, Mr. |
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Chairman, an article from The New Republic and an article from |
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The Wall Street Journal that calls into question this account |
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that we have been told over and over again. |
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Let me note that there was a major, one of the most |
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respected documentary filmmakers, an anti-Putin documentary |
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filmmaker from Russia who started to do research on this and |
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was going to have a documentary condemning the Russian |
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Government on this, and he came away after the investigation |
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changing his basic belief and believing instead that Mr. |
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Browder has actually had a PR campaign to cover up some of his |
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own activities in escaping this tax liability. |
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So let me just note that also Mr. Browder has, from what we |
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are told, and there is evidence that indicates, that he has |
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threatened to sue NBC for a documentary that says something |
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else than what he would like presented about this Magnitsky |
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case. |
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So let me just say, this is a confusing situation and there |
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are serious questions that need to be addressed, and there is |
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no reason, as I say, when we are setting up this global |
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standard, that we need to include another factor that adds |
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confusion to the purpose of the case. |
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So with that said, I would ask my colleagues just, let's |
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name this the Global Human Rights Accountability Act. We can be |
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proud of that. I have always been a proud supporter of human |
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rights measures throughout my career. And I think this |
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actually, by doing this, we take away the confusion. |
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And I think it is striking a blow to say what we want is an |
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explanation, what we want to base this on is truth, not just |
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some gratuitous slap at Russia by some, and at the same time |
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backing up the claims of a guy who made billions of dollars at |
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a time when Russia was economically confused. |
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So with that, I would ask my colleagues to join me in what |
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I consider to be a very rational and reasonable proposal, that |
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we make this the Global Human Rights Accountability Act instead |
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of the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act. |
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you, Mr. Rohrabacher. |
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Do any other members seek recognition to speak on this |
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amendment? |
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Mr. Engel. |
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Mr. Engel. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
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Let me first say, with respect to my good friend and |
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classmate from California, I have to oppose this amendment. |
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Sergei Magnitsky was a lawyer who worked to shine a light on |
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corruption, fraud, and theft by authorities inside Russia. As |
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we well know, opponents of Russia's increasingly authoritarian |
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regime don't get the benefits of due process or rule of law. So |
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he was thrown in prison, held for a year with no trial, denied |
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medical care, subjected to horrific conditions, and beaten by |
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prison guards in the final hours of his life. His basic rights |
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and dignity were pushed aside when he was dying in a Russian |
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prison cell, but now his name and his story have become |
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synonymous with efforts to advance human rights and fight |
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corruption. |
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There is a good reason we put his name on a law years ago, |
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and we should reject any attempt to revise history or sweep it |
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under the rug. We should not be apologists for Putin. We should |
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not be worried about offending Putin or his incredibly more and |
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more authoritarian regime. Let the chips fall where they may. |
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Stripping's Magnitsky name from this bill dishonors his |
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work and diminishes the tragedy of his death. So with all due |
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respect to my good friend, I urge my colleagues to oppose this |
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amendment. |
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I yield back. |
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Chairman Royce. Other members seeking recognition? |
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General. |
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Mr. Perry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
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While I have the consummate respect for my good friend from |
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California, I must disagree with him on this particular issue. |
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And I think that it is a good thing any single time that we |
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highlight the atrocities, whether they are imposed on one |
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individual or millions of individuals, by the Russian state, by |
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the U.S.S.R., the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. And any |
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time we can highlight things like the Katyn Forest massacre of |
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thousands of Poles or the Terror-Famine in Ukraine, up to 6 |
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million Ukrainians murdered by the Soviet Union and the Russian |
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dictators, I think it is a good thing. |
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And so with those reasons in mind, I will oppose this |
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amendment and urge my colleagues to do the same. |
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Chairman Royce. Thank you, General Perry. |
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Mr. Albio Sires. |
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Mr. Sires. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
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And I really appreciate all your hard work, especially on |
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this bill, but I must disagree with my colleague from |
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California. I think to worry about what Russia feels about |
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this, the name of this bill, when they are just moving away |
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from democracy and becoming more dictatorial every day, I |
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really do not agree with removing this name. If we remove this |
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name, maybe we should add Fidel Castro to the bill. That may be |
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more appropriate. |
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Thank you. |
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Mr. Connolly. Would my friend yield? |
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Mr. Sires. Absolutely. |
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Mr. Connolly. I thank my friend. |
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My friend from California knows how much I do respect him |
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and like him. But I felt listening to him like I was watching |
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RT, Russian Television. |
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His argument is essentially three points. Well, there is a |
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lot of confusion over the circumstances. We don't know whether |
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he was beaten to death because he was himself corrupt or they |
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were trying to get intelligence out of him, as if that could |
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ever be justified. |
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Secondly, it is a gratuitous slap at Vladimir Putin and |
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Russia. Actually, of course, it is the very opposite. It is |
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calling them out for behavior that absolutely fails even the |
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minimal standards of international norms with respect to |
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jurisprudence and protection of those in custody. |
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Thirdly, with his billions, being an oligarch, who knows, |
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maybe there were lots of reasons to justify this. There can |
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never be any reasons to justify it. |
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I would make the opposite argument of my friend from |
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California. We must put this name on this bill. We must make it |
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clear to Vladimir Putin and his friends in Russia that there |
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are international standards we will adhere to and insist they |
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adhere to. |
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And so I think we have to reject this amendment on its face |
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overwhelmingly and make a collective statement from this |
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committee, on behalf of this Congress, that we take note and |
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that we are not going to let up, and that unacceptable behavior |
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by Mr. Putin, whether it be in the Crimea or in a prison cell |
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involving Sergei Magnitsky, you will adhere to civilized |
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international norms of behavior because we are going to insist |
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on it. And when you don't, we are going to call you out. |
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I yield back. |
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Mr. Cicilline. Mr. Connolly, will you yield? |
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Mr. Connolly. The time is Mr. Sires'. |
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Mr. Sires. Yes, I yield. |
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Chairman Royce. The gentleman yields. |
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Mr. Cicilline. |
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Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
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I too oppose this amendment and encourage my colleagues to |
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vote against it. And I just want to say that I thank my good |
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friend, Mr. Rohrabacher, actually for giving us an opportunity |
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to again remind people about the circumstances of this case and |
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the naming of this legislation. |
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There are really no doubts about the veracity of the case |
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of Sergei Magnitsky, who was only 37 years old when he was |
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killed in Russian Government custody after exposing wide-scale |
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corruption and tax fraud by Russian officials. After arresting |
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Mr. Magnitsky for the crimes he exposed, they allowed him to |
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die in horrific circumstances. |
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The Russian Government then continued its campaign of |
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smears and vilification, turning on Magnitsky's boss, Bill |
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Browder, after he refused to let the case simply disappear. |
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They convicted Bill Browder in absentia of the tax evasion that |
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Magnitsky had led the charge to uncover. And even more galling, |
|
they had the audacity to convict Mr. Magnitsky posthumously; in |
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fact, the first such prosecution in Russian history. |
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The Russian Government has had no shame when it comes to |
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the case of Sergei Magnitsky, the details of which have been |
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pored over, verified by multiple sources, and verified again. |
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To allow the Russian Government any modicum of influence over |
|
this legislation, including its name, would be shameful and |
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would dishonor the work of Mr. Magnitsky, Mr. Browder, and all |
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of those men and women in Russia and around the world who fight |
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against corruption and human rights abuses. |
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I have here a Daily Beast article published today which |
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outlines the length the Russian Government has gone to, to |
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discredit, smear, and vilify Mr. Magnitsky and to oppose this |
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legislation. And with the chairman's permission, I would like |
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to submit it for the record. |
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And I urge my colleagues to oppose this amendment and |
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support the underlying legislation, the Global Magnitsky Human |
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Rights Accountability Act. |
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Chairman Royce. Without objection, subject to the length |
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limitations and committee rules, all members have general leave |
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to submit related materials for the record. |
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Mr. Chabot. Mr. Chairman. |
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Chairman Royce. Mr. Chabot seeks recognition. |
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Mr. Chabot. Mr. Chairman, move to strike the last word. |
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Chairman Royce. Mr. Chabot, you are recognized. |
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Mr. Chabot. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, it doesn't mean I |
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support his amendment, but I yield my time to the gentleman |
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from California. |
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Mr. Rohrabacher. Thank you very much for yielding that |
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time. And by the way, thank you for your expressions of |
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friendship and respect for differences of opinion. That is all |
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right. We are in a country where we do respect each other when |
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we have disagreements and that is one of the things that makes |
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our country great. |
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Back to this particular issue, I will just have to say that |
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there is ample evidence, enough evidence that major magazines, |
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like New Republic and The Wall Street Journal, have called into |
|
question the details of this case as to whether or not what is |
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being presented is not something that has been a major effort |
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on the part of a multi-billionaire who made his profit at a |
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time when there was chaos and confusion in Russia and basically |
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became one of the oligarchs. |
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What we should be talking about is basically, when we are |
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talking about whether this title is appropriate, what are our |
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standards of truth in this case? Do we know absolutely what the |
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truth is? And I am saying that there are enough people who are |
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credible. |
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And the fact that we have Mr. Browder threatening a major |
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television network in the United States, threatening them with |
|
a lawsuit if they have any major documentary on this issue. We |
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also have a man who is renowned in Russia for making |
|
documentaries that oppose Putin, who launched an effort to do a |
|
documentary on Mr. Magnitsky. And guess what, as he went on, he |
|
began to realize it did not make any sense, the story that was |
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being presented, which is that Magnitsky was being kept because |
|
he was exposing some Russians, government officials of |
|
corruption, as compared to he was being held because the |
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Russian Government knew that there was $230 million in a tax |
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liability that they did not have the funds that Mr. Browder was |
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eligible, that was his tax liability. |
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So I think that this is a murky issue. It is not cut and |
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dry. And I know that over and over again it has been repeated |
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that it is cut and dry and it is not. And I have tried to be an |
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honest person myself, and the bottom line is that we, by taking |
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this name out, in no way are we changing the standard of what |
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we have and what our Government is going to have when it comes |
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to this type of behavior of foreign officials. |
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The downside of this, let me be very clear about this, the |
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Russians feel it is a gratuitous slap just at them. And because |
|
of that, they have changed a law in Russia dealing with |
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Americans' ability to adopt children, Russian children. Now, I |
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would oppose them doing that, but that is what they did. And |
|
there is a side effect to this that is harming some children |
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and some people here who would like to adopt Russian children |
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who are in very much in need, and it is based not on trying to |
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force us to change our standards, but at least trying to force |
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us to take what they considered a gratuitous slap out of the |
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title of the bill. |
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So with that said---- |
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Mr. Connolly. Would my friend yield for a question? |
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Mr. Rohrabacher. I certainly will. |
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Mr. Connolly. The name of the bill is the Magnitsky bill, |
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not the Browder bill. Is that not correct? |
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Mr. Rohrabacher. To the degree officially, that is correct. |
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Mr. Connolly. Thank you. |
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Mr. Rohrabacher. All right. But the name of the bill should |
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be, instead of that, should be Human Rights Accountability Act |
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and not anybody's name. |
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So with that said, I yield back the balance of my time. I |
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appreciate my colleague yielding the time to me, and I yield |
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back to him. |
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Mr. Chabot. Reclaiming my time, I yield back. |
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Chairman Royce. Do any other members seek recognition to |
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speak on this amendment? |
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Mr. Randy Weber of Texas. |
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Mr. Weber. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
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When Edward Snowden was running from American officials he |
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landed in Moscow eventually. American officials pushed Putin to |
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either extradite him to America or to kick him out of Russia. |
|
Putin commented that he didn't have any control over who was in |
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Russia. |
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Dana, you referenced The Wall Street Journal, so it |
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reminded me that Dan Henninger in that article at that time |
|
said that that was ridiculous what Putin said because when |
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Russian officials didn't want somebody in Russia, on Russian |
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soil, they either removed him from it or put him under it. So |
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that is their reputation. |
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I yield to my friend from Pennsylvania. |
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Mr. Perry. Thank you for yielding to my good friend from |
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Texas. |
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Just in response to my other good friend from California, |
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which I must vehemently disagree with on this, when he says we |
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are not sure of the facts, we are not sure of the facts, let me |
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tell you what facts we are absolutely sure of. We are sure of |
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the facts of the Terror-Famine in the 1930s where the Russian |
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Government murdered by starvation up to 6 million Ukrainians |
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and took their land. We are sure of the facts of the Katyn |
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Forest massacre of World War II and the massacre of the Poles |
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that were blamed on the Germans. We are sure of the facts of up |
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to 45 million untimely deaths at the boot of communism and |
|
socialism under the Russian Government. And we are sure of the |
|
fact that Vladimir Putin is a former KGB agent and he is |
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coalescing power not in a democratic way, but an authoritarian |
|
way, and is likely responsible for the untimely and unpleasant |
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deaths of many that we don't know about. But we do know about |
|
this one. |
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I think it is our duty to remind the American people every |
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single day that we can, until they change their ways, what the |
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Russian Government, what the U.S.S.R. has stood for, what |
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Communism and Socialism has meant for the world, world over, |
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since World War II. |
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And with that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back. |
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Chairman Royce. Do any other members seek recognition? |
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Hearing no further requests for recognition, the question |
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occurs on the amendment. |
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All those in favor, say aye. |
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All those opposed, no. |
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In the opinion of the Chair, the noes have it, and the |
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amendment is not agreed to. |
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Are there any other requests for amendment at the desk. |
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Hearing no further amendments, the Chair now moves that the |
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committee agree to S. 284's amendment. |
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All those in favor, say aye. |
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All those opposed, no. |
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In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it, and S. 284, |
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as amended, is agreed to. Without objection, S. 284, as |
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amended, is ordered favorably reported as a single amendment in |
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the nature of a substitute. Staff is directed to make any |
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technical and conforming changes and the Chairman is authorized |
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to seek House consideration under suspension of the rules. |
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So that concludes our business for today. I want to thank |
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Ranking Member Engel and all of our committee members for their |
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contributions and assistance with today's markup. |
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