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COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS |
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GREGORY W. MEEKS, New York, Chairman |
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BRAD SHERMAN, California MICHAEL T. McCAUL, Texas, Ranking |
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ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey Member |
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GERALD E. CONNOLLY, Virginia CHRISTOPHER H. SMITH, New Jersey |
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THEODORE E. DEUTCH, Florida STEVE CHABOT, Ohio |
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KAREN BASS, California SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania |
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WILLIAM KEATING, Massachusetts DARRELL ISSA, California |
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DAVID CICILLINE, Rhode Island ADAM KINZINGER, Illinois |
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AMI BERA, California LEE ZELDIN, New York |
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JOAQUIN CASTRO, Texas ANN WAGNER, Missouri |
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DINA TITUS, Nevada BRIAN MAST, Florida |
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TED LIEU, California BRIAN FITZPATRICK, Pennsylvania |
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DEAN PHILLIPS, Minnesota TIM BURCHETT, Tennessee |
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COLIN ALLRED, Texas ANDY BARR, Kentucky |
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ANDY LEVIN, Michigan GREG STEUBE, Florida |
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ABIGAIL SPANBERGER, Virginia DAN MEUSER, Pennsylvania |
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CHRISSY HOULAHAN, Pennsylvania AUGUST PFLUGER, Texas |
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TOM MALINOWSKI, New Jersey PETER MEIJER, Michigan |
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ANDY KIM, New Jersey NICOLE MALLIOTAKIS, New York |
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JIM COSTA, California MARIA ELVIRA SALAZAR, Florida |
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JUAN VARGAS, California JOE WILSON, South Carolina |
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VICENTE GONZALEZ, Texas RON WRIGHT, Texas |
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Subcommittee on Europe, Energy,the Environment and Cyber |
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WILLIAM R. KEATING, Massachusetts, Chairman |
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SUSAN WILD, Pennsylvania BRIAN FITZPATRICK, |
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ABIGAIL SPANBERGER, Virginia Pennsylvania,Ranking Member |
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ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey ANN WAGNER, Missouri |
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THEODORE DEUTCH, Florida ADAM KINZINGER, Illinois, |
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DINA TITUS, Nevada DAN MEUSER, Pennsylvania |
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DEAN PHILLIPS, Minnesota AUGUST PFLUGER, Texas |
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JIM COSTA, California NICOLE MALLIOTAKIS, New York |
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VICENTE GONZALEZ, Texas PETER MEIJER, Michigan |
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Tsikhanouskaya, Sviatiana, Belarusian Human Rights Activist and |
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Hearing Notice................................................... 47 |
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Hearing Minutes.................................................. 48 |
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Hearing Attendance............................................... 49 |
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WOMEN LEADING THE WAY: THE DEMOCRATIC MOVEMENT IN BELARUS |
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Wednesday, March 17, 2021 |
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House of Representatives, |
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Subcommittee on Europe, Energy, the |
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The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:32 a.m., via |
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Webex, Hon. William R. Keating (chairman of the subcommittee) |
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presiding. |
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Mr. Keating [presiding]. The House Foreign Affairs |
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subcommittee will come to order. |
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And without objection, the chair is authorized to declare a |
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recess of the committee at any point. And all members will have |
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5 days to submit , extraneous material, and questions for the |
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record, subject to the length limitations in the rules. To |
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insert something into the record, please have your staff email |
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to the previously mentioned address or contact full committee |
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staff. |
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Please keep your video function on at all times, even when |
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you are not recognized by the chair. Members are responsible |
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for muting and unmuting themselves. Please remember to mute |
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yourself after you finish speaking. |
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Consistent with House Resolution 965 and the accompanying |
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regulations, staff will only mute members and witnesses, as |
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appropriate, when they are not under recognition, to eliminate |
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background noise. |
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I see that we have a quorum present. I will now recognize |
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myself for an opening statement. |
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Pursuant to notice, we are holding a hearing today entitled |
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``Women Leading the Way: The Democratic Movement in Belarus''. |
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I will begin my statement. In the days leading up to August |
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2020 and the Presidential election that day in Belarus, one |
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after another, the Presidential candidates who opposed |
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Alexander Lukashenko were jailed or forced out of the country. |
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The election then took place without international observers |
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under the control of State-owned media and in an atmosphere of |
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fear and intimidation. |
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On the actual election day, Sviatiana Tsikhanouskaya |
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stepped in for her husband, Siarhei Tikhanouski, a typical |
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activist and blogger who was jailed just a few weeks before. |
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During the election process, independent sources found that |
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Sviatiana Tsikhanouskaya received more votes than the incumbent |
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Lukashenko, and when the election results came in, it was clear |
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to Belarusians and the international community at large that |
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the election had taken place in fraudulent conditions and that |
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Lukashenko could not claim victory. Yet, Lukashenko claimed |
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himself to be President, underestimating the will of the |
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Belarusian people and the strength of Sviatiana Tsikhanouskaya. |
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After 26 years of dictatorial rule, the Belarusian people |
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had had enough. They gathered in the streets en masse, |
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peacefully demonstrated against the Lukashenko regime and for |
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their right to a new, free, and fair election. They organized |
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themselves through new means of technology, sharing information |
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over applications like Telegram. |
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And what is so striking for many of us in the U.S. was that |
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they were led by a coalition of women who called for solidarity |
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with Sviatiana Tsikhanouskaya. Unfortunately, these peaceful |
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demonstrations were met with State-sponsored violence that was |
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organized and mandated by the highest levels of government. |
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Security forces began to beat and detain hundreds of peaceful |
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demonstrators, crack down on independent journalists, and |
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intimidate opposition leaders. |
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The Lukashenko regime took Sviatiana Tsikhanouskaya into a |
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government building, directly threatened her and her family, |
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and thus, forced her into exile in Lithuania. Later, activists |
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like Maria Kalesnikava were kidnapped and attempts were made to |
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force them out of the country as well. And finally, journalists |
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like Katsiaryna Andreyeva and Darya Chultsova were arrested and |
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jailed for simply filming peaceful demonstrations. |
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Authorities have arbitrarily detained and physically, |
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sexually, and emotionally assaulted tens of thousands of |
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peaceful protestors, journalists, and civil society members. |
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Today, hundreds remain in detention, and many have recounted |
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experiencing torture, sexual violence and rape, beatings, and |
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other ill treatment. At least eight protestors have been |
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killed. |
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And today, the Belarusian people mark 221 days or |
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resistance against brutal authoritarian oppression. It has been |
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over 7 months in a fight to establish a rule of law and achieve |
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a democratic future for their country. |
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We in Congress must stand with the people of Belarus as |
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they push for democracy. We must recognize the sacrifices made |
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daily by peaceful protestors who take to the streets, knowing |
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full well that they will face harassment, intimidation, |
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unlawful detention, or worse. And we must salute the courage of |
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the women of Belarus who in a highly patriarchal society have |
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shown strength, determination, and leadership, standing at the |
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center of organizations like Coordination Council, in an |
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attempt to establish a dialog with the Lukashenko regime and |
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initiate new, free, and fair elections. |
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Our expert witness today knows all too well the challenges |
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posed by autocratic regimes who benefit from corruption and |
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whose close friends and allies only support repressive tactics. |
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Yet, the continuous fight for democracy around the world is |
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real and can take different forms. We have watched some |
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countries, such as those in Central Europe, who have fallen |
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into the trap that is democratic backsliding and illiberalism. |
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We have watched as authoritarian States have used the pandemic |
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to gather even greater control over their citizens, such as the |
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recent arrest of almost 200 opposition leaders in Moscow. And |
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we here in Washington have had to confront the fragile nature |
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of our own democracy, as just months ago, violent, armed |
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insurrectionists stormed the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to halt |
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the democratic process for a free and fair election. |
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In times marked by challenges to democracy at home and |
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abroad, one democracy must lend its hand to another. Helping |
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democratic allies across borders and oceans can ensure that |
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societies seeking to establish democratic, often in the face of |
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anti-democratic threats, can prevail. A network of support, and |
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the ability to communicate with that network, is a necessary |
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component to democratic strength. That is why we, the |
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transatlantic community and the U.S. Congress, must stand in |
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unity and support the democratic movement in Belarus and all |
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those who fight to establish or protect their democracy abroad. |
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That is why last September I held a hearing before this |
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subcommittee on the democratic awakening of governments. That |
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hearing included firsthand accounts of images of violence |
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inflicted upon the Belarusian people by security forces, with |
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introduced resolutions condemning the human rights abuses by |
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Lukashenko and praising the bravery of the Belarusian citizens. |
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We have also passed the revised version of the Belarus |
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Democracy, Human Rights, and Sovereignty Act, authored by |
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Representative Chris Smith, which expanded the robust set of |
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sanctions and authorities related to Belarus at the President's |
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disposal. |
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Yet, while we have taken these steps forward, it is the |
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peaceful protestors on the ground in Belarus and the Belarusian |
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diaspora around the world from Vilnius to Cape Cod that |
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continues to drive movements and democracy forward and to keep |
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this fight for democracy in Belarus alive. |
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With that being said, I am pleased to welcome the woman who |
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has become the leader of the democratic movement in Belarus, |
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Sviatiana Tsikhanouskaya, as our expert witness today. She did |
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not plan to run for President. However, as she has said, she |
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has shown up for her people because her people showed up for |
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her. Her steadfast courage, dedication, and tenacity is |
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remarkable, and I look forward to our discussion. |
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I now turn to the ranking member for his remarks, Mr. |
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Fitzpatrick. |
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Mr. Fitzpatrick. Good morning, and thank you, Chairman |
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Keating. |
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Today, we gather to recognize the bravery of our witness, |
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Sviatiana Tsikhanouskaya, and her inspiring campaign to promote |
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democratic aspirations in the people of Belarus. You and |
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historic peaceful protestors have stand down overwhelming odds |
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and lit a fire to a renewed democratic spirit in Belarus. And |
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this movement is now shining a light on the authoritarian |
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shadow that has covered the citizens of Belarus during |
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Alexander Lukashenko's rule. |
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I would also like to acknowledge the Coordination Council, |
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its members, and all the Belarusian citizens engaging in the |
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noble pursuit of a free and democratic society. And it is worth |
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noting, as we recognize International Women's Month, that |
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exceptionally brave and daring women are leading this |
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democratic revolution in Belarus. |
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Mrs. Sviatiana Tsikhanouskaya and thousands of women like |
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her have proven to their country and the rest of the world that |
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the future is in their able hands. These freedom fighters are |
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not seeking unreasonable terms. They seek legal process. They |
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seek freedom of expression and information, and they seek |
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freedom from the harassment of an oppressive state. And they |
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seek freedom to chart their own future. |
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Following the August 9th election, the people of Belarus |
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wanted their voices heard in response to the dictatorial |
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actions of Lukashenko. In response to these citizens' peaceful |
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protests, Lukashenko's security forces responded with excessive |
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force, the use of chemical riot dispersion methods and |
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measures, and detained citizens completely without cause. |
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Plainclothes police officers have engaged in increasingly |
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aggressive and brutal crackdowns of those who are peacefully |
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protesting the election results and its resulting movement. |
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International monitors estimate that more than 32,000 |
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Belarusians have been temporarily detained and imprisoned, and |
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nearly 300 political prisoners remain behind bars as of this |
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hearing this morning. According to a report by the European |
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Parliament last year, at least 10 demonstrators have been |
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killed by government forces or died while in custody under |
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suspicious circumstances. |
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The harrowing account of our witness describes the |
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situation of jailed protestors that, quote, ``have been rounded |
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up and housed like cattle in tiny, overcrowded jail cells |
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without access to water, sanitization, or any normal sleeping |
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positions,'' going on to say that, ``torture is now |
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commonplace.'' |
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Lukashenko has smothered free speech in Belarus and |
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manipulated the media to suppress the surge in his opposition |
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and conceal the tactics of his oppression. Russian |
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propagandists were flown in to work for State-run TV in |
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Belarus. Meanwhile, independent journalists have faced |
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intimidation and imprisonment. Local critics of the regime face |
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trumped-up charges and are imprisoned for speaking truth to |
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power. |
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And as the illegitimate regime in Belarus continues to |
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normalize a litany of human rights violations, the calls for |
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Mr. Lukashenko to step down and recognize a new, free, and fair |
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system of elections is gaining momentum worldwide. A group in |
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my home State of Pennsylvania even organized a rally in |
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Pittsburgh in a snow-covered day this year to raise awareness |
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of the plight of their loved ones. And as such, the United |
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States, in coordination with its European allies and partners, |
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must be vigilant and robust in our support for Belarus and |
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their civil society and those who are persecuted by the |
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Lukashenko regime. |
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In line with the Belarus Democracy, Human Rights, and |
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Sovereignty Act of 2020, which I cosponsored, we must continue |
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to demand the end of Lukashenko's violence and the release of |
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all those wrongfully detained, and continue harsh sanctions for |
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those complicit in these human rights violations. The |
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illegitimate Lukashenko regime must, once and for all, step |
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down and allow for free and fair elections to be held. The |
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people of Belarus are demanding the right to chart their own |
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future, and their voices deserve to be heard. |
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I yield back. |
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Mr. Keating. I would like to thank the ranking member. |
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And without objection, I would like to recognize |
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Representative Smith, who is the author of the Belarus |
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Democracy Act, for a brief statement. |
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Mr. Smith. Mr. Chairman, thank you so very much for |
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inviting me to be and allowing to be part of your panel, and to |
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Brian Fitzpatrick, as well as to you, for the great work that |
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you gentlemen are doing and this subcommittee. Your resolution |
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that is pending, I think, will, again, reiterate the |
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bipartisan, bicameral support of Congress behind Tsikhanouskaya |
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and the rest of the human rights activists and defenders in |
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Belarus. |
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The leadership that you have shown and that the people of |
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Belarus have shown, despite incredible odds, despite the fact |
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that the bullies are out there beating, arresting, torturing, |
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and even killing the best and the bravest and the brightest of |
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Belarus. |
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The picture, Mr. Chairman, that you have painted, as well |
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as the ranking member, is both bleak and hopeful--bleak because |
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Lukashenko is still in charge, but hopeful because the people |
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of Belarus have you to champion their dreams, and that goes for |
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this leadership led by women who are in exile, some of whom are |
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in exile; others, sadly, are in prison. |
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My work on Belarus goes back to really the 1990's. And in |
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2004, I authored the Belarus Democracy Act, which really has |
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become the template for Magnitsky holding men and women in the |
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Lukashenko regime, both in terms of visa denial and making them |
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unable to participate in any kind of economic relationship with |
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the U.S. and U.S. banks. I did it again in 2006, 2011, and as |
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you pointed out, the 2020 Act, which reiterates and expands and |
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puts an emphasis on sovereignty, because we know that the |
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Russians are eying Belarus in a way that is reminiscent of what |
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they did with the Crimea and other parts of the Ukraine. |
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Again, according to the representative of the OSCE, the |
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Belarusian authorities have filed at least 141 politically |
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motivated cases again women. Forty-nine are currently in |
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detention or under house arrest. Another 75 are suspects in |
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politically motivated criminal cases, and thousands of other |
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women have fled Belarus in fear for their safety. Despite all |
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of this, the image of Belarusian women in white has become |
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iconic, representing the hopes of all Belarusians for a better |
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future. |
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Again, thank you for this timely hearing. And again, it |
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gives us all an opportunity to say we are in solidarity with |
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these incredibly brave women and men. |
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I yield back. |
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Mr. Keating. Thank you, Representative Smith, and thank you |
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for your longstanding work on this important issue. |
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Mr. Smith. Thank you. |
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Mr. Keating. I will now introduce our witness. Ms. |
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Sviatiana Tsikhanouskaya is a central leader of the democratic |
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movement in Belarus and a human rights activist who challenged |
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Alexander Lukashenko at the 2020 Presidential election. This |
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Belarusian election was fraught with widespread fraud and |
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followed by unjustifiable violence. |
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In the months following, Sviatiana Tsikhanouskaya has been |
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a symbol leader of the Belarusian protests and has contributed |
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greatly to promoting and organizing positive change in Belarus, |
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both through her domestic and international engagement. |
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The Europe Parliament recognized the fight of Belarusian |
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people for democracy and freedom, led by Sviatiana |
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Tsikhanouskaya, by awarding her, among other leaders, the |
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prestigious annual Sakharov Prize. She has also received a |
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series of international awards for her courageous struggle |
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against the authoritarian regime of Lukashenko. |
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I will now recognize, and State my pleasure at joining us, |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya, for 5 minutes. And without objection, your |
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prepared written statement will be made a part of the record. |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya, you are now recognized for your opening |
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statement. |
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STATEMENT OF SVIATIANA TSIKHANOUSKAYA, BELARUSIAN HUMAN RIGHTS |
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ACTIVIST AND POLITICIAN |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. Good morning, everyone. |
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Chairman Keating, Ranking Member Fitzpatrick, Honorable |
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Representative Smith, and distinguished members of the |
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subcommittee, first of all, I would like to extend my Saint |
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Patrick's Day greetings to all of you. Mr. Keating, as you may |
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know from me, Ireland has had a very special place in my heart. |
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Mr. Smith, thank you for being here with us today. We |
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deeply appreciate your tremendous support for Belarus |
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throughout decades, including all four Belarus democracy acts |
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that you introduced and helped enact. |
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Mr. Chairman, I would like to submit pictures for the |
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record. |
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Mr. Keating. Without objection, we can display those |
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pictures as you begin your testimony. |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. Thank you. |
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So, I am deeply grateful for the great honor of addressing |
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you on behalf of the Belarusian people. I am here to give voice |
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to the thousands of Belarusians who face injustice, |
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intimidation, and brutality, and who still continue to protest |
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daily. |
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It has been more than 7 months since Belarus has begun the |
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united peaceful protest movement, which was met with |
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unprecedented violence from the authorities. Over 32,000 people |
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have been detained. More than 2,500 criminal cases have been |
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initiated. Over 1,000 cases of torture have been documented by |
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human rights NGO's. And there are 290 political prisoners at |
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the moment. At least eight protestors were killed. |
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Not a single government official has been held accountable |
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for the brutality, repression, torture, and murder. Amidst the |
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injustice, the brave women of Belarus became a symbol of hope |
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and resilience for our country. |
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Seventy-three-year-old Nina Baginskaya has been protesting |
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against the regime since the 1990's, despite the detentions by |
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police and raids on her house. |
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Miss Belarus 2008, Volha Khizhinkova, and basketball star |
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Yelena Leuchanka spent 42 days and 15 days, respectively, in |
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detention in unsanitary and humiliating conditions for |
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peacefully protesting. |
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Women wearing white dresses and carrying flowers formed the |
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first human chains a shield for male protestors. Their desire |
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to protect was stronger than their fear of being detained and |
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tortured. Yet, they could not protect everyone. |
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On 10th August, Alexander Taraikovsky fell, the first |
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victim of police brutality. He was shot point-blank by a police |
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squad in Minsk. |
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Two female journalists, Darya Chultsova and Katsiaryna |
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Andreyeva, were sentenced to 2 years in prison for doing their |
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job, livestreaming a vigil for the peaceful protestor Raman |
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Bandarenka, who was murdered by the regime cronies in his own |
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backyard for protecting our national symbols. |
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With those stories, it was straight that we are dealing |
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with a human rights crisis of unprecedented proportions for |
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Belarus that keeps worsening day by day. But the people still |
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persist. |
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Our workers united in strike committees. Our doctors and |
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professors stood up for their colleagues who were fired for |
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their political views. Our professional athletes raised |
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awareness all over the world. Principled police officers and |
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investigators resigned. Neighborhood communities have become |
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the place for a grassroots movement. |
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Yet, all of this is not enough. Lukashenko still has the |
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resources to retain power. So, the United States should insist |
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on stopping the violence, releasing the political prisoners, |
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restoring the rule of law, and launching a genuine dialog |
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between the legitimate representatives of Belarus and the |
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regime. |
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At the same time, it is not words, but actions that matter. |
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We call on the U.S. to enforce sanctions against State-owned |
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enterprises, the judiciary, and oligarchs. Sanctions are one of |
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the most effective measures. We call on the U.S. to use its |
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diplomacy to isolate Lukashenko by curbing international |
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agreements and commerce between the Lukashenko regime and other |
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countries. We call on the U.S. to help with international |
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mediation through the OSCE. |
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We call on the U.S. Congress to consider increasing the |
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support for the pressing needs of Belarusians. People of |
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Belarus require support, especially the civil society, the |
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human rights defenders, the independent media, and the |
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businesses. All of them have been repressed by the regime. |
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As the European Union has drafted a comprehensive plan to |
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support Belarus during the transition and after free and fair |
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elections, we call on the U.S. Congress to join this work in |
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order to start developing a joint Marshall Plan for Belarus. |
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I am bound by the view of the majority of Belarusians to |
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make this happen, and I call on the United States of America to |
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join me on this mission. My nation is facing a humanitarian |
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crisis. People are suffering and dying right now. Belarusians |
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need you as never before. |
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Thank you. |
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Mr. Keating. Thank you very much for that very moving and |
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very important testimony. |
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I will now recognize members for 5 minutes each. And |
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pursuant to House rules, all time yielded is for the purpose of |
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questioning our witnesses. |
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Because of the virtual format of the hearing, I will |
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recognize members by committee seniority, alternating between |
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Democrats and Republicans. And if you miss your turn, please |
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our staff know and we will circle back to you. If you seek |
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recognition, you must unmute your microphones and address the |
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chair verbally. |
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I would just ask, is Representative Sires still with us? I |
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know he had to leave. I was going to yield my time to him. |
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Evidently, he has had to leave. So, I will start by recognizing |
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myself. |
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The role of women in the movement for a democratic and free |
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Belarus is really the theme of what we are talking about in |
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terms of the democratic movement that is there. And this is |
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unique in that respect, and it is effective and it is |
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important. And it has really captured the attention of the |
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world. |
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And I would just like to ask you, what specifically you |
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have seen as the role of women in spearheading this effort for |
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free and democratic elections and a democracy in Belarus? What |
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can you tell us in more detail about that specific role of |
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women? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. Actually, the women played a huge role |
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in this revolution. And first of all, the fact that three women |
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led this pre-election campaign in spite of all other |
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prohibitions for women to fight. We three women, we are put in |
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this position instead of our men, and it was really the |
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regime's mistake that they underestimated women of Belarus. |
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Our ex-President always told that our constitution is not |
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for women, that women will never be able to lead the country, |
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but we managed because women, especially Belarusian women, are |
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really strong. And when our women were put in such |
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circumstances, when they had to show how strong they are, they |
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showed the most bravery that the whole world was inspired of. |
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And after 3 days of hell the regime made in Belarus after |
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the election date, and thousands of men had been detained and |
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tortured in jails, our women had to stand in front of our men, |
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just hide the men behind them to protect them. So, our |
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wonderful, peaceful women showed to the whole world that we are |
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brave and we manage everything, only because we want a better |
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future for our children, and we ready to defend not only our |
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children, but our men as well. |
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Mr. Keating. I think this effort has changed the dynamics, |
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gender dynamics, in the country as well. It goes far beyond |
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this movement itself. |
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Now you recently released a liberation plan of yours. Can |
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you highlight the most important aspects of that and how the |
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U.S. can be useful in seeing that plan come to life? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. I think that the women of this |
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revolution after the election, and before the election, we |
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thought that we need new elections because the previous |
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election was falsified, and just to step out of this political |
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and humanitarian crisis in Belarus, we need new elections. But |
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we need these new elections through peaceful dialog with the |
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regime. |
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But we see that the regime does not respond to our calls |
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for negotiations. And that is why we are systematically, |
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continuously putting pressure on the regime and his cronies. |
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Inside the country, these are protesting movements, |
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demonstratives, different initiatives. People are not giving |
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up. And despite of this tremendous level of violence from the |
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regime, people are continuing to fight. |
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But, of course, we need international support as well. We |
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need international pressure because democratic countries cannot |
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close their eyes on what is going on in Belarus and they have |
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to stand for the values of the democratic countries, for human |
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rights, for dignity. And it is the institution in Belarus, it |
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is a challenge not only for Belarusians, it is a challenge for |
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European countries, for the USA, for Canada, just to prove that |
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the values are not just words; that they want, that they have |
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to stand for these. |
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And we are a wonderful country, and we are on our own path |
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for democracy. So, we call on you, stand with us in this |
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difficult time and do your best for one more nation, proud |
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nation, to become a democratic country. |
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Mr. Keating. Well, thank you. And I also want to thank you |
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for meeting with Ambassador Julie Fisher. I spoke with her just |
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the other day, and we are looking forward to her being |
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recognized, too, by Belarus. |
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I now yield to our ranking member, Mr. Fitzpatrick, for his |
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questions. |
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Mr. Fitzpatrick. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I |
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would like to begin by asking you, sir, to please enter into |
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the record a letter from the Free Belarus Coalition for |
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Bipartisan and Bicameral Support requesting $30 million for |
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Fiscal Year 2022, funding to support Belarus' civil society and |
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the organic democratic movement. |
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Mr. Keating. Without objection, that will be, per our |
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instructions in the beginning, put in the record. Thank you. |
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Mr. Fitzpatrick. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
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And this is aligned with the bipartisan 2020 Belarus |
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Democracy Act, which calls for increased foreign assistance. |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya, thank you so much for being here with |
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us today. We greatly admire and respect your courage more than |
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you know. You are a beacon of courage, not just for us on this |
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committee, but for the Congress and for the world. |
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So, ma'am, if you could just state for the record, in |
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furtherance of this request for $30 million, how will the |
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Belarus assistance be best served by those who are pro-civil |
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society and are pro-democratic initiatives? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. So, first of all, I have to say that |
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your help is very extremely essential in our case, but I have |
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to admit that we need rapid help because people are suffering |
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now in this very moment in jails and on the ground. |
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And so, through those, democracy can progress, can |
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increase, and appropriate more funding for two organizations |
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working in Belarus. For example, just through traditional and |
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emerging civil society, like traditional, we need to help to |
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NGO's like defend activists now, to media and to activities, |
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and to emerging civil society like Telegram channels, YouTube |
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bloggers, athletes, doctors. And you also can increase budgets |
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for Belarus of American organizations, such as USAID, for |
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example. |
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But, again, I have to repeat that this is urgent help. You |
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know, just to keep civil society resistance, we need to have |
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them now. |
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Mr. Fitzpatrick. Thank you, Sviatiana. |
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And to all my colleagues on the committee, I urge strong |
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bipartisan support for this funding request. |
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Mr. Chairman, I yield back. |
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Mr. Keating. I would like to thank the ranking member. |
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And the chair now recognizes the vice chair of the |
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committee, Ms. Spanberger. |
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Ms. Spanberger. Thank you very much. |
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And thank you for being with us here today, Ms. |
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Tsikhanouskaya. You have demonstrated immense bravery and |
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selflessness over the past year and a true commitment to the |
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people and the future of Belarus. Thank you. And I know that |
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those standing up for democratic principles and human rights |
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around the world appreciate your tremendous work and, |
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certainly, your willingness to be a witness here today. |
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After your husband's candidacy for the election in August |
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was denied, you took on the role and ran against Lukashenko. |
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How has your own vision of your future and leadership evolved |
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since August? And frankly, did you ever see yourself taking on |
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such a prominent role? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. Thank you. You know, I became in this |
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action and campaign a symbol of resistance, a symbol of unity. |
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But, as a matter of fact, life put me in such circumstances |
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that I had to take this responsibility and become a leader of |
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this revolution. And I know that the Belarusian people know who |
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they voted for, and I feel huge support from the Belarusian |
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people. |
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It is a rather difficult way. You know, I was put in |
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difficult circumstances. I feel huge pressure from propaganda. |
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And I know that all the Belarusian people are feeling |
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tremendous pressure on the ground. But knowing that I am doing |
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this for the future of the Belarusian people, for my children, |
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for all those who are suffering in jails now, I have to find |
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strength every day of this fight, and I am finding this |
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strength in the Belarusian people. I know that they are |
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fighting and that they are not giving up. So, I have no right |
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to give up as well. |
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It is difficult, but I am a woman, and a woman is |
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everything. |
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[Laughter.] |
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Ms. Spanberger. Isn't that so true? |
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Well, I am curious, then, how has your forced exile |
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affected your ability to interact with the democratic movement |
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back home in Belarus? And how has it impacted your ability to |
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communicate and advocate, and certainly lead, this continued |
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movement? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. You know, it was the usual regime's |
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practice to make the people flee from the country for them to |
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stop struggling. And the same happened to me. I was sent out of |
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the country and I was supposed to stop, but I could not. I |
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could not betray the Belarusian people. |
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And, you know, the propaganda always say, ``Oh, she lost |
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this connection with Belarus. She is an exile. She does not |
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understand everything.'' But it is not true. And thanks to the |
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internet, every day I have some conferences and some meetings |
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with all the groups in Belarus. I have meetings with doctors, |
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with students, workers, striking committees, neighborhoods. |
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Every day I have to tell people, I have to look into their |
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eyes, I have to inspire them, and they inspire me back. So, for |
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sure, I am not losing this connection. I feel like I am there |
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on the ground through this connection. |
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But, of course, knowing that I will be jailed as soon as I |
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pass the border, I am sure that here, even in exile, I can do |
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much, much more for the Belarusian people, for the sake of my |
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country. So, I have to stay here and struggle to bear that with |
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the Belarusian people. |
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Ms. Spanberger. Well, I want to thank you so much for |
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bringing your answers to this committee, certainly your |
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experiences. Thank you for your continued work on behalf of the |
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Belarusian people and on behalf of democratic ideals and |
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values. It is amazing to see leaders like you who are fighting |
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for the rights of the people they should be representing and |
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that they want to stand up for. So, thank you again for coming |
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before this committee. Thank you for telling us, as a |
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committee, what we could be doing to support. And I think you |
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have heard so far that you have many American Members of |
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Congress who are paying close attention to your ongoing |
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struggles and the struggles of your people. So, thank you very |
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much. |
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And, Mr. Chairman, I yield back. |
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Mr. Keating. The chair thanks the vice chairman. |
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It is my understanding that Representative Wagner has |
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yielded her time to Representative Smith. So, the chair calls |
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on Representative Smith for his questions. |
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Mr. Smith. Thank you very much, and, Ann, thank you very |
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much. |
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Mr. Chairman, thank you again for this important hearing, |
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so we can reassert, recalibrate, and do even more to help the |
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democratic opposition in Belarus. And Sviatiana certainly |
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epitomizes grace under pressure, courage under pressure, and we |
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are all inspired, I think, beyond words to do more to assist. |
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You, in your recent appeal to the United Nations, you and |
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the United States, Sviatiana, asked that political prisoners |
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and trying to support political prisoners, that we sanction |
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prison chiefs, judges, prosecutors, prison guards. And I am |
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wondering, is it your sense that we are doing enough to try to |
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impose those sanctions? Obviously, getting the names of those |
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individuals is extremely important, and the more we have that, |
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the more we can try to hold them to account. |
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You have also noted the gross mistreatment of the female |
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prisoners, including threatening to take their children away, |
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humiliation of all kinds, beatings, all kinds of assault, |
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humiliation. If you could perhaps elaborate on some of that, |
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because it is outrageous. |
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I have met with Lukashenko twice. He is a bully. We all |
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know that. I think he is an egomaniac. We all know that. |
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But, for those who are behind bars, we have to got to find |
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the most effective strategies to intervene, and to do it |
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immediately. In this, bottom line, do you think we are all |
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doing enough, the European Union, the United States, the U.N.? |
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And be blunt. You know, everyone means well. We all mean well. |
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This is totally bipartisan. And again, the chairman I think is |
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doing a great job. His resolution will, again, give us an |
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opportunity to speak out with one voice when that comes up on |
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the floor of the House. Don't worry about being diplomatic. We |
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have got to know, are we doing enough? Sviatiana? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. Yes, I am here. I have to say that I am |
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really grateful for all the actions that Europe and America and |
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Canada did, have done already, because you stand for us in the |
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crucial moment of our revolution, just after the elections. No |
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one country recognized Lukashenko as legitimate. Everybody told |
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that the elections were fraudulent, Lukashenko is illegitimate. |
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And just I ask you at the moment to be consistent in your |
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vision. |
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And I understand that you have done a lot and you imposed |
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sanctions, individual sanctions. But, you know, what is going |
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on in Belarus, it is my personal pain. And, of course, just to |
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stop this level of violence, just to start negotiations, to |
|
start to develop, we need more pressure on the Lukashenko |
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regime. And in this way, I suppose that sanctions are the most |
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powerful leverage to make this regime to respond to our calls |
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for dialog. |
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And now, we need to widen this list of individual |
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sanctions. These sanctions should be imposed on security forces |
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offices, judges, educational and support officials who support |
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the regime, who in this or that extent were involved in |
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atrocities and humiliation and violence in Belarus. |
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And also, Congress should also legislate to widen the |
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sectorial sanctions, such as in the oil and gas and the potash |
|
fertilizers industries, just to strike at the regime's most |
|
important benefactors and prime resources of resilience. |
|
So, we have to put sanctions on those like bullies of |
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Lukashenko that support the regime. And support the regime |
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means supporting violence and torture in Belarus. So, I am sure |
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that you can do more and more. Until this violence stops, we |
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have to put greater pressure on the regime. |
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Thank you. |
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Mr. Smith. Thank you. |
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Mr. Keating. Thank you, Representative. |
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Mr. Smith. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
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Mr. Keating. The chair now recognizes Representative Wild. |
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Ms. Wild. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Sorry for the delay in |
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getting my mute off. I appreciate it. Sorry. |
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Mr. Keating. Okay. |
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Ms. Wild. Okay, I am ready to go. I am sorry about that. |
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First of all, I just want to start by echoing comments made |
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by my colleagues in recognizing your courageous efforts to |
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build a democratic future in Belarus. Your leadership is |
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inspiring. |
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And my question is about the role of U.S. diplomacy. I |
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would like to know what your thoughts are on the role that |
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might be played by newly appointed Ambassador Julie Fisher in |
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promoting democracy and supporting the democratic aspirations |
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of the people of Belarus. And as she engages with a regime that |
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does not have popular legitimacy, what message would you like |
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our Ambassador to convey? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. Thank you. As a matter of fact, with |
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Julie Fisher, we had a wonderful conversation, and I saw such a |
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huge empathy for the Belarusian people from her. And I |
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understood that she would be the greatest diplomat on the |
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ground ever. |
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And, of course, we welcome the presence of Julie Fisher on |
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the ground for her to monitor the situation in Belarus. She can |
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visit jails just to see conditions of keeping women and men in |
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jails. They are unhuman, I have to say. She can visit trials, |
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you know, to see that there is no law in Belarus. She can |
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support civil society in different ways. |
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But a very important moment, Julie Fisher has not given |
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credentials to Lukashenko. He is not the legitimate President |
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and he cannot be considered as a person whom credentials can be |
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given to. So, I am sure it can be done, you know. I mean, she |
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can stay there as a diplomat without doing this action. |
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Ms. Wild. Thank you. |
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And I have a little bit more time. So, I also wanted to ask |
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you, you have called on the pro-democracy movement to hold |
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demonstrations on March 25th, on Freedom Day, marking Belarus' |
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declaration of independence in 1918. What I would like to know |
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is, what can we, as Members of the U.S. Congress, and others |
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who stand in solidarity with pro-democracy forces, do that |
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might be helpful to put pressure on the regime ahead of that |
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day or on that day? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. On the 25th of March, it is our |
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independence day in Belarus, and people went out for |
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demonstrations every year. And for sure, this year will not be |
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an exclusion. And moreover, people demand this day will be the |
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beginning of the new wave of demonstrations in Belarus, new |
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wave of protesting movement. |
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And people really have this in a demand to show them that |
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we are here; we are people that have our rights to vote, to say |
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everything. And, of course, people will go for the rallies, and |
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people are continuing putting pressure by different |
|
initiatives. |
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And just to support these people, the whole world has to |
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show solidarity with them, to be vocal about them, to put these |
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facts on the reader, that, look, there are some people who are |
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fighting; they are still there, and we have to help them. Just |
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put the repression of Belarus on the agenda. Be with us with |
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any different ways. Talk about us in the social media, in the |
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social networks. You know, put us on the agenda, and we will |
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see this. Because international support is extremely important |
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in our case. We have to know that the whole world is watching |
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us, that we are not alone. |
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Ms. Wild. Thank you so much. We will do our best to support |
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you. |
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I yield back, Mr. Chair. |
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Mr. Keating. Thank you, Representative Wild. |
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Representative Wagner is now recognized for 5 minutes. |
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Mrs. Wagner. I thank you, Mr. Chairman, for this very |
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important hearing. I am proud to stand with the Belarusian |
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democratic movement as it demands greater freedom and respect |
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for fundamental rights from the authoritarian Lukashenko |
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regime. |
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I want to thank our witness, Ms. Tsikhanouskaya, for her |
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courage and tireless work for the people of Belarus. |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya, you wrote last year that ``Access to |
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information is the strongest weapon'' the opposition has. And I |
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could not agree more. Truth is the potent threat to |
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authoritarianism, and shedding light on the abuses perpetrated |
|
by the Lukashenko regime advances democracy and liberty for |
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Belarusians. What more can the United States do to support |
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independent media in Belarus and amplify voices that continue |
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to exercise their rights to dissent and free speech? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. Thank you. Yes, you are so right, the |
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media is really important in our case because |
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[audio interference] in Belarus. You know that this regime |
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has oppressed almost all the independent media in Belarus. They |
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cannot work. The regime did not create international media. |
|
They did not allow international media to come to Belarus, just |
|
because he had a lot to hide. He had to hide his crimes, |
|
violence, and atrocities. And still, just for media to survive |
|
in Belarus, they really need great support. |
|
And first of all, you can, at the moment, you can support |
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different YouTubers that are on the ground and out of the |
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country, show us the real situation in Belarus. You have to |
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call to free imprisoned journalists who just have been detained |
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for doing their job. And you can support Telegram channels that |
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also show the real picture, the crowds. And you can support |
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Radio Free Europe on the ground. So, a lot can be done really, |
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and thank you for what you are doing already. |
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Mrs. Wagner. Thank you. |
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In the coming months, how will opposition's Coordination |
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Council work to sustain the pro-democracy movement in Belarus? |
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How is the Lukashenko government obstructing the Council's |
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mission, and how can the United States best pressure Lukashenko |
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to end political persecution of Council members specifically? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. You know, the Coordination Council was |
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created as they pled for negotiations, and they are building |
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structures inside the country, different working groups that |
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are working with students, with striking committees, with |
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neighborhoods, and all this stuff. And this new form of social |
|
groups, pressure social groups, are extremely important. It is |
|
like a new building of democratic organizations. We have never |
|
had democracies within our country. It is like grassroots |
|
democracy. |
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And every country can support this organization, these |
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grassroots organizations, like teaching them how to build this |
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democracy, how to be involved in this political competitions, I |
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would say. And we have to start everything. We have to start |
|
everything from the beginning, and you can assist us in this. |
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Mrs. Wagner. Thank you very much. |
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I understand that the Kremlin sent Russian propagandists to |
|
work at Belarusian State TV in support of the Lukashenko |
|
regime. Are these propagandists still actively working in |
|
Belarus, and are their efforts to shape the information domain |
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in Belarus in Lukashenko's favor, is it working? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. You know, after the |
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[audio interference] violence after the elections, most of |
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journalists were fired from State TV, but they very soon were |
|
replaced by Russian journalists. And Russian journalists did |
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not feel the pain that the rest of the journalists felt. And, |
|
of course, they could use this propaganda very widely to show |
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me in the bad way, I would say. |
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But now, I know that the Russian journalists, they already |
|
went back to Russia, but, still, propaganda in Belarus is |
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working very hard. They want to discredit me. They want to show |
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that the opposition is splitting, but it is not; it isn't so. |
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And they put much, they put a lot of efforts to show that the |
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opposition like died. And every day we show to the whole world |
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that we are still here, that we are fighting. So, we are |
|
fighting with the propaganda as well. They cannot do anything |
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when the opposition is united. |
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Thank you. |
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Mrs. Wagner. Well, thank you. Thank you, Ms. |
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Tsikhanouskaya. We are grateful for your courage. |
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And I have expired my time. Gratefully, Mr. Chairman, I |
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yield back. |
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Mr. Keating. Thank you. |
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The chair recognizes Representative Deutch for 5 minutes. |
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Mr. Deutch. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I want |
|
to really extend a deep debt of gratitude to you for holding |
|
this hearing today. There are a lot of things that our |
|
committee does, and they are all important, but what we are |
|
doing today in this hearing, and the message that we are |
|
sending to Lukashenko, the message that we are sending to the |
|
people of Belarus, the message that we are sending to the |
|
Kremlin and to the world, that we are committed to helping to |
|
foster democracy, to standing on the side of those who want the |
|
ability to live in a democracy. That is as important as |
|
anything we will do. |
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And, Ms. Tsikhanouskaya, there is no one who has done more |
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in Belarus to help accomplish than you. And I want to thank you |
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for appearing before the committee. I want to thank you for |
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your powerful testimony. |
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We see in the work we do here the constant, relentless |
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threat that authoritarianism poses to democracies and to |
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democratic values. And Belarus and the United States may not be |
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neighbors, but the struggle in Belarus today is a generational |
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challenge that we cannot afford to look away from. We have to |
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lead. |
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And as my colleagues have made clear, the U.S. Congress |
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stands with the people of Belarus and we support you as you |
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work to withstand Russian aggression, create a freer, more |
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democratic nation. So, the battle lines of the fight to protect |
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democratic values and human rights transcends State boundaries |
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and peoples. It is imperative that those who stand for |
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democracy everywhere, including here in the United States, |
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recognize one another as partners in this struggle. |
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And not only am I an American invested in protecting my own |
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country's democracy, I am also, Ms. Tsikhanouskaya, the proud |
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grandson of immigrants from two small towns in Belarus. |
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And I thank you for your testimony today, and I thank you |
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for your courage and for your determination. |
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I want to ask you, we have spoken a lot, you have spoken |
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powerfully about the pressure that Lukashenko must feel. |
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Recently, Lukashenko talked about enacting constitutional |
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reforms at a referendum next year and organizing new |
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Presidential elections sometime thereafter. How do you |
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interpret these actions, and what can we do to not fall prey to |
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efforts to shield Lukashenko and others responsible for the |
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jailings, the attacks on journalists and activists, from our |
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actions now? What do we do here with this? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. You know, I have to say that when the |
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regime is at risk, it starts to talk about a new constitution |
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and referendum, and all this stuff. We aren't talking about new |
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elections. We are talking about dialog between society sources |
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and the regime. We need amending of the constitution, but it is |
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not the question now. The question now is solving a political |
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and humanitarian crisis in Belarus. And this amendment of the |
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constitution expressed, that he is talking about, it should |
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take place alongside with new elections or right after the |
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elections. We have to show priorities in our revolution. |
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So, as for journalists, again, I have to say that |
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journalism is a very important factor in our revolution, and it |
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is important to support them because they are lack of space, |
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you know, in the country. They cannot earn the money just to |
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show us this truth. So, this technical support to journalists |
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is very important. |
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So, have I missed---- |
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Mr. Deutch. No, I appreciate it. As I finish, I just want |
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to thank you again for your courageous leadership. |
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I want to thank the chairman and the ranking member, Mr. |
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Smith and others who have been helping us focus the world's |
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attention. |
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And as you approach these Freedom Day protests, as you talk |
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about the need for grassroots democracy, and even as 400 |
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activists have been sentenced to prison, including a 16-year- |
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old suffering from epilepsy who was sentenced to 5 years in |
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prison simply for participating in the protests, please know |
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that it is not just this subcommittee and the House Foreign |
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Affairs Committee, but that the U.S. Congress and the people of |
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the United States stand with you and the people of Belarus in |
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your rightful quest for democracy. And we are so honored by |
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your presence today. Thank you very much. |
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I yield back. |
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Mr. Keating. Thank you, Mr. Deutch. Thank you for your |
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strong remarks and incorporating your family background. That |
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was very meaningful. |
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Representative Titus is recognized for 5 minutes. |
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Ms. Titus. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you for |
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setting up this amazing meeting. I cannot imagine having a more |
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inspiring witness than we have this morning. |
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Thank you for your courage and for being here. |
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I would just ask you if you would maybe elaborate on the |
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plan that you call the liberation plan that you came out with |
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in February. Talk a little bit about maybe your deadlines, what |
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you see as part of that plan. Will you be working with any |
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NGO's or organizations like NDI or IRI to help you with that? |
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And is part of that plan dealing with COVID? I know that |
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Lukashenko has just pretty much denied COVID and said, ``Go to |
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a spa and drink vodka and you'll be Okay.'' But someone of your |
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stature and your presence could have a lot of impact on |
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addressing that issue as well. |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. You know, the COVID situation is |
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rather, I would say, interesting in Belarus because, when the |
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whole world was struggling with COVID, with the first wave of |
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COVID, our regime told that there was no COVID in Belarus, and |
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even if it is, so you can treat it with ``tractors and vodka''. |
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And a moment when the regime did not take care of--there |
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were some people in the spring. The Russians had to take care |
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of themselves. They started to buy this usual mix for doctors |
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and this special proven equipment. They collected money to buy |
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this equipment for hospitals. So, at that moment, again, we had |
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a proff that government does not take care about the Nation. |
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And now, the situation is also very bad with COVID on the |
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ground, but we know that real numbers are much higher than the |
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government say. And one doctor who dared tell the real numbers |
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was immediately fired from their hospital, just for telling the |
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truth. |
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And as for our plan, you know, there cannot be deadlines |
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here. Of course, we want new elections to happen on September. |
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For this, we have to start dialog this May. That is why people |
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are beginning the second wave of the protesting movement in |
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Belarus on the ground. That is why this is a very crucial |
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moment for all the international society, for all the countries |
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and leaders and organizations to put maximum pressure on the |
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regime to make him answer our calls for dialog. |
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So, we have, if we can say so, spring is the beginning of |
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protests. Until May, we have to organize this data platform on |
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the basis of overseeing and start to negotiate about new |
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elections in September or October this year. |
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Ms. Titus. Thank you very much. |
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You have quite a task ahead of you. Are you working with |
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any NGO's on the ground there? Are there any formal |
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organizations? Or is it just kind of spontaneous protests? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. You know, it is very difficult for |
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NGO's to survive in Belarus. They are pressed; they are under |
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constant pressure. And we can say that we have like legal NGO's |
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in Belarus and illegal. I cannot pronounce these words, but |
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this is our reality. And we are just trying to help, and, you |
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know, the international society is trying to help a different |
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kind of NGO's on the ground, for them to transfer this help to |
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people who are suffering, people who are in prison, people that |
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are fighting. So, we have to like look for new forms of helping |
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these NGO's. It is very difficult to work in the country where |
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there is no law. You know, all the organizations that are |
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helping people are under constant pressure of the regime |
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because they don't want this organization to help. |
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Ms. Titus. Yes, they don't even want it to exist. |
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Well, thank you so much. And thank you for being here and |
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for your courage. Just be careful there. Just be careful. |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. Thank you so much. |
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Mr. Keating. Thank you, Representative Titus. |
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Representative Schneider is recognized for 5 minutes. |
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Mr. Schneider. Thank you, Chairman Keating. And as others |
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have said, I cannot thank you enough for having this hearing. |
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And, Mrs. Tsikhanouskaya, I cannot thank you enough for |
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spending the time to share with us your story, but also cannot |
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thank you enough for the inspiration you provide to your |
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country, to the world, for democracy, for courage, bravery, and |
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hope. |
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I join with my colleagues on this panel who I believe are |
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representative of the entire U.S. Congress, and by extension, |
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to the entire American people, in standing in solidarity with |
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you, with the heroic women leading the way, and with the entire |
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Belarusian people, and the pro-democracy movement. |
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Personally, my story has connections to Belarus. My |
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maternal grandfather's family was from Brest-Litovsk in |
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Belarus. They came here at the turn of the last century, but we |
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can trace the roots back there. |
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I take personally extraordinary inspiration from the |
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bravery and the defiance, the resiliency, of the women of |
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Belarus that we have talked about today and of the Belarus |
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people as a whole. |
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I have three questions we can touch on, try to get into |
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specifics. I will lay them out, and then, you can address them |
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any way you want. |
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But, first, what can Congress do to best support you and |
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the pro-democracy movement, to support your resolve, the |
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resilience, to stand strong throughout this crisis, until we |
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get to the end we all hope for? |
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Toward that end, in more detail, what pressure can we apply |
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to the regime? You mentioned sector-specific sanctions. What |
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specific sectors do you have in mind and are there specific |
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entrepreneurs we should be focused on? |
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And finally, what can Congress, the United States, and our |
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allies do to, in your words, create a positive program for |
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change for a new Belarus? |
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And I think I may have lost you. |
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Mr. Keating. Yes. Could we just pause for a moment? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. It was the button. Sorry. |
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Mr. Keating. Perhaps if you could just summarize again |
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quickly, if that is possible. Representative Schneider, could |
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you just---- |
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Mr. Schneider. I am sorry, were you able to hear me, Ms. |
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Tsikhanouskaya, or do I need to summarize? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. Yes, yes, yes. I just think--I am |
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sorry--help support the Belarusian people or Belarus at the |
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moment; how to be with the Belarusian people? So, first of all, |
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this is like three pillars. |
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First of all, it is pressure on the regime--sanctions, |
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putting political pressure on Lukashenko politically and |
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economically, and all this stuff. |
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Second, it is support to civil society--media, workers, |
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medics, any groups of people. |
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And the third pillar is justice in our country. There is no |
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law at the moment in Belarus. We have to look for justice in |
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other countries. In many cases, investigation of crimes in |
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Belarus have been started on the basis of universal |
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jurisdiction--you know, Lithuania, Poland, the Czech Republic. |
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So, you can like support the three pillars or through |
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something else you can. And second, you can support the U.N. |
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accountability mechanism for investigating crimes in Belarus. |
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And again, from the USA sectoral sanctions, in such spheres, |
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oil, gas, and potash fertilizer industries are very important. |
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Just if you find any State organizations that are like wallets |
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of Lukashenko, oligarchs that are supporting this regime, |
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supporting violence, and impose sanctions on them, it will be |
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very good, strong leverage on the oppression for the regime. |
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And as for the future of Belarus, you know, the only thing |
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I want from the future of Belarus is that my children and the |
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new generation feel safe on the ground; that they understand |
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that a person is their highest value for this country; you |
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know, that everybody, every person is responsible for building |
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this new Belarus. |
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And, you know, having paid such a huge price during this |
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revolution for a new Belarus, I am sure that every Belarusian |
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will do his or her best to stay united in the future and to do |
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everything to come to democracy. |
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Mr. Schneider. Thank you. That is a phenomenal, inspiring |
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answer, and know that we are with you. Know that we are |
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cheering for your country, for your people. |
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And with that, I yield back. |
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Mr. Keating. Thank you, Representative. |
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Representative Meuser is recognized for 5 minutes. |
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Representative Meuser? |
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Mr. Meuser. Yes, thank you, Chairman. |
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Thank you for attending this hearing with us. It is |
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certainly some compelling testimony. |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya, you wrote in a Washington Post op-ed |
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last year that, ``we will continue our boycott of the State |
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apparatus. Many private businesses have stopped dealing with |
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State-owned banks; more will do the same. Whenever possible, |
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businesspeople should delay, refuse to pay and refuse to buy |
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products from State-owned factories.'' |
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Can you describe how things have gone since making those |
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statements? And has it been successful? Has it had some |
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deteriorating factors? Maybe expand upon that a little bit, if |
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you would not mind, Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. So, can you repeat the question? |
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Mr. Meuser. Your comments in The Washington Post op-ed that |
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you had written last year regarding boycotting of State-owned |
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businesses and factors, can you please expand upon what support |
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that was met with? Heavy resistance? Problems for you |
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personally? Has it met with any success? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. Well, many people say sanctions can |
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make people suffer on the ground because they will lose their |
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job or something. But people are already suffering. It is not |
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my demand, putting sanctions on the State organizations. It is |
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the people's demand who are working in these organizations. You |
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know, they are suffering at the moment. They have been fired. |
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They are putting on pressure from the regime. They are |
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humiliated or other factors in different ways. They get small |
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salaries and have a lot to do on the factories. But, still, |
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they lead this sanction because people understand that this |
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economical pressure will ruin this regime. |
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When the regime does not have money to pay to the riot |
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police, riot police will refuse to serve this regime. You know, |
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it is like a circle. If factory does not pay the regime, the |
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regime does not pay the riot police, and the regime does not |
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have support because the only support at the moment the regime |
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has, it is violence--violence executed by riot police. So, |
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people are ready to suffer because of lack of salaries, but |
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they want to change this regime so much that they want the |
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sanctions most of all. |
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Mr. Meuser. Okay. And so, the nine Belarusian officials and |
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four entities related to human rights abuses that were |
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sanctioned several months ago, has that been effective and |
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should that be expanded, in your view? Based on what you |
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Stated, we should be engaged in more, heavier sanctions of more |
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individuals as well as entities that are part of this |
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suppression? |
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Ms. Tsikhanouskaya. Of course, I have to say that we are |
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grateful for all the sanction list you have already enforced. |
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But we see that the number of people is not enough. Because |
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this very narrow circle of people sanctioned, they know how to |
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avoid the sanctions. You know, they don't have assets in your |
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banks already. They know how to avoid this. |
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But those people, the judges, security forces offices, |
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education and support officials that support the regime, they |
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also to be put on the sanctions list. Because the next time, |
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the next judge will think twice before making a crime against a |
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person or against demonstrators, peaceful demonstrators. |
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The threat of these sanctions is sometimes even more useful |
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than any other way of pressure on these people. For sure, the |
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sanction list has to be widened. |
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Mr. Meuser. Right. Thank you very much. |
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And, Mr. Chairman, I yield back. |
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Mr. Keating. I thank the gentleman for his comments. |
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And just a couple of closing remarks. Our thanks, Ms. |
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Tsikhanouskaya. This was an enormously moving hearing, an |
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unusual hearing in that respect. And your participation and |
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taking the time to talk to us in Congress is so important. |
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And my colleagues, I want to thank all of them. It is an |
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abnormally busy day today for many reasons, and the |
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participation was extraordinary at this subcommittee hearing. |
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I would say this: that, Ms. Tsikhanouskaya, you began the |
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hearing with your remarks wishing us a happy Saint Patrick's |
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Day. And I want to think about the words of a very famous Irish |
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poet, Seamus Heaney. And he remarked at one point--and it is a |
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remark that is used quite often by our President, President |
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Biden--when they were talking about a period of troubles in |
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Ireland that was so severe. He said that, ``If we winter this |
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one out, we can summer anywhere.'' |
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And I think winter has descended in terms of democracy |
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right on Belarus, and the world knows that and the U.S. knows |
|
that. And we are going to weather this winter together, a |
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winter of authoritarian rule, of violence, of intimidation. And |
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we are going to work together with you, hopefully, joining |
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together as a diaspora, as well as government officials. As you |
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go forward with your IT platform and strategy and victory, we |
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will be looking, and perhaps helping, to deal with those issues |
|
as you go forward. |
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But I want to tell you we will continue. The U.S. will |
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fully implement the powers that it can implement for democracy |
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in Belarus. We will work on a continuing basis to stop the |
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violence there, to push for the release of political prisoners |
|
there, and to make sure that there is a genuine dialog between |
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the people of Belarus and forging ahead to a legitimate |
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government where people can be represented. |
|
And just in your last few remarks, I think you summed up |
|
the goals of all of us in a free world when you just said, What |
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we want most is to pass a better world and better country to |
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our children. And importantly, you said, every person has a |
|
responsibility. |
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So, I want to assure you that we view our responsibility as |
|
standing up for Belarus, for democracy. And you continue to |
|
inspire us every day. And the work and the effort that you have |
|
done, joined by so many courageous individuals, and the |
|
hallmark of them, probably in this effort more than many |
|
others, of women being involved is so important. |
|
So, thank you so much for being here. We will continue to |
|
work with you to make sure that the people of Belarus can get |
|
through this winter. And then, when that happens, we can all |
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celebrate democracy all the time in the summer. So, thank you |
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so much. |
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And with that, this hearing is adjourned. |
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[Whereupon, at 10:53 a.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.] |
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