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+[House Hearing, 112 Congress]
+[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office]
+
+
+
+ 
+                    FINAL REPORT OF THE PRESIDENT'S
+
+
+                      NATIONAL COMMISSION ON THE
+
+
+                       BP DEEPWATER HORIZON OIL
+
+
+                      SPILL AND OFFSHORE DRILLING
+
+=======================================================================
+
+                           OVERSIGHT HEARING
+
+                               before the
+
+                     COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
+                     U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
+
+                      ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS
+
+                             FIRST SESSION
+
+                               __________
+
+                      Wednesday, January 26, 2011
+
+                               __________
+
+                            Serial No. 112-1
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+                               __________
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+                     COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
+
+                       DOC HASTINGS, WA, Chairman
+             EDWARD J. MARKEY, MA, Ranking Democrat Member
+
+Don Young, AK                        Dale E. Kildee, MI
+John J. Duncan, Jr., TN              Peter A. DeFazio, OR
+Louie Gohmert, TX                    Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, AS
+Rob Bishop, UT                       Frank Pallone, Jr., NJ
+Doug Lamborn, CO                     Grace F. Napolitano, CA
+Robert J. Wittman, VA                Rush D. Holt, NJ
+Paul C. Broun, GA                    Raul M. Grijalva, AZ
+John Fleming, LA                     Madeleine Z. Bordallo, GU
+Mike Coffman, CO                     Jim Costa, CA
+Tom McClintock, CA                   Dan Boren, OK
+Glenn Thompson, PA                   Gregorio Kilili Camacho Sablan, 
+Jeff Denham, CA                          CNMI
+Dan Benishek, MI                     Martin Heinrich, NM
+David Rivera, FL                     Ben Ray Lujan, NM
+Jeff Duncan, SC                      Donna M. Christensen, VI
+Scott R. Tipton, CO                  John P. Sarbanes, MD
+Paul A. Gosar, AZ                    Betty Sutton, OH
+Raul R. Labrador, ID                 Niki Tsongas, MA
+Kristi L. Noem, SD                   Pedro R. Pierluisi, PR
+Steve Southerland II, FL             John Garamendi, CA
+Bill Flores, TX                      Colleen W. Hanabusa, HI
+Andy Harris, MD
+Jeffrey M. Landry, LA
+Charles J. ``Chuck'' Fleischmann, 
+    TN
+Jon Runyan, NJ
+Bill Johnson, OH
+
+                       Todd Young, Chief of Staff
+                      Lisa Pittman, Chief Counsel
+                Jeffrey Duncan, Democrat Staff Director
+                   Rick Healy, Democrat Chief Counsel
+                                 ------                                
+
+                                CONTENTS
+
+                              ----------                              
+                                                                   Page
+
+Hearing held on Wednesday, January 26, 2011......................     1
+
+Statement of Members:
+    Flores, Hon. Bill, a Representative in Congress from the 
+      State of Texas, Prepared statement of......................    52
+    Hastings, Hon. Doc, a Representative in Congress from the 
+      State of Washington........................................     1
+        Prepared statement of....................................     3
+    Holt, Hon. Rush D., a Representative in Congress from the 
+      State of New Jersey, Prepared statement of.................    69
+    Landry, Hon. Jeffrey M., a Representative in Congress from 
+      the State of Louisiana, Prepared statement of..............    70
+    Markey, Hon. Edward J., a Representative in Congress from the 
+      State of Massachusetts.....................................     4
+        Prepared statement of....................................     5
+    Wittman, Hon. Robert J., a Representative in Congress from 
+      the State of Virginia, Prepared statement of...............    70
+
+Statement of Witnesses:
+    Graham, Hon. Bob, Senator, Co-Chairman, National Commission 
+      on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling     9
+        Prepared statement of....................................    11
+        Joint response to questions submitted for the record.....    71
+    Reilly, Hon. William K., Former Administrator of the 
+      Environmental Protection Agency, and Co-Chairman, National 
+      Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and 
+      Offshore Drilling..........................................     7
+        Prepared statement of....................................    11
+        Joint response to questions submitted for the record.....    71
+
+Additional materials supplied:
+    Wall Street Journal editorial ``Gulf Political Spill'' dated 
+      January 13, 2011, submitted for the record.................    66
+
+
+   OVERSIGHT HEARING ON THE FINAL REPORT OF THE PRESIDENT'S NATIONAL 
+COMMISSION ON THE BP DEEPWATER HORIZON OIL SPILL AND OFFSHORE DRILLING.
+
+                              ----------                              
+
+
+                      Wednesday, January 26, 2011
+
+                     U.S. House of Representatives
+
+                     Committee on Natural Resources
+
+                            Washington, D.C.
+
+                              ----------                              
+
+    The Committee met, pursuant to call, at 2:19 p.m., in Room 
+1324, Longworth House Office Building, Hon. Doc Hastings 
+[Chairman of the Committee] presiding.
+    Present: Representatives Hastings, Young, Bishop, Lamborn, 
+Wittman, Fleming, Coffman, McClintock, Thompson, Denham, 
+Benishek, Rivera, Duncan of South Carolina, Tipton, Gosar, 
+Labrador, Southerland, Flores, Harris, Landry, Fleischmann, 
+Runyan, Johnson, Markey, Pallone, Grijalva, Boren, Lujan, 
+Christensen, Sarbanes, Tsongas, and Hanabusa.
+
+    STATEMENT OF THE HON. DOC HASTINGS, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
+             CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON
+
+    The Chairman. The Committee on Natural Resources will come 
+to order.
+    The Committee is meeting today to hear testimony on the 
+report by the President's National Commission on the BP 
+Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling.
+    Under Committee Rule 4(f), any oral opening statements at 
+hearings are limited to the Chairman and the Ranking Minority 
+Member. This will allow us to hear from our witnesses sooner 
+and help keep Members on their schedules. If other Members have 
+statements, they can be included in the hearing record under 
+unanimous consent.
+    So I ask unanimous consent that all Members' opening day 
+statements be made a part of the hearing record if they are 
+submitted to the Chief Clerk by 5:00 p.m. today. Hearing no 
+objection, so ordered.
+    We have two witnesses today, and I will make the formal 
+introductions after our opening statements, but I am very 
+pleased that they are here. They are spending all day on the 
+Hill. The first part of the day was spent on the other side of 
+the Capitol, and now they are here, and I will welcome them 
+formally in a moment.
+    It has been 9 months since the horrific explosion and oil 
+spill in the Gulf of Mexico that resulted in the death of 11 
+men and the burning and the sinking of the Deepwater Horizon. 
+Since then, nearly 5 million barrels of oil spilled into the 
+Gulf, resulting in the economic displacement of tens of 
+thousands of fishermen, tourist workers, and people connected 
+to the offshore energy industry.
+    The oil spill was a terrible tragedy and the effects are 
+still being felt today. As this Committee proceeds with its 
+oversight duties, we must be mindful of how we respond because 
+that response could significantly impact American energy policy 
+in the future. The response to this event could be the 
+difference between making offshore drilling the safest in the 
+world or locking up our resources, putting more Americans out 
+of work and further relying on foreign countries for our energy 
+needs.
+    It is because of these serious implications that I have 
+stressed from day one the need to have all of the facts and 
+information surrounding the cause of this incident before there 
+is a rush to judgment or a rush to legislate. When President 
+Obama announced that he was personally appointing an oil spill 
+commission, many in Congress and around the country were deeply 
+concerned with both the makeup and the mandate of the 
+Commission.
+    There were concerns that the President's Commission didn't 
+have enough experts in engineering or experience in the oil and 
+gas industry and that it was comprised of individuals who had 
+dedicated a significant portion of their career to opposing oil 
+and gas drilling. While understanding these concerns, I kept 
+and am keeping an open mind on the recommendations of the 
+President's Commission.
+    This is why this is the first scheduled Committee hearing 
+in this Congress, and I am anxious to hear from the Co-Chairs. 
+This report provides further insight into the accident and will 
+be a factor in Congress' discussions. However, even with the 
+Commission's report, we still don't know precisely what caused 
+the explosion or why the blowout preventer failed to work. Now, 
+there will be additional reports from the joint Coast Guard-
+BOEM Marine Board hearings and the Chemical Safety Board 
+hearings. And hopefully they will provide answers to these 
+lingering questions among others.
+    Through this uncertainty, what I do know for sure is that 
+America needs American-made energy. We need to keep and create 
+American jobs. And we need to mitigate America's dependence on 
+foreign energy that threatens potentially our national 
+security. The oil spill, as I mentioned, was a terrible 
+tragedy, but it should not be used as an excuse to further 
+reduce America's access to our energy resources.
+    Some in Congress view this bill as an opportunity to shut 
+down offshore drilling. To me, that is not a solution. That is 
+giving up. Legislation aimed at this goal was introduced last 
+year and will predictably be proposed again in this Congress--
+this despite the strong support among the American people for 
+continued offshore energy productions.
+    Republicans want to make offshore energy drilling the 
+safest in the world. We believe in the need to make smart, 
+effective reforms that are centered on improving safety, 
+putting people back to work and allowing responsible drilling 
+to move forward. The right response to this bill is to focus on 
+making drilling safe, not impossible.
+    The importance of this Committee's future work cannot be 
+understated. Gas prices are steadily rising. Iran has assumed 
+the presidency of OPEC, and rigs are leaving the Gulf for 
+foreign countries like Cuba, Brazil and Mexico, taking American 
+jobs with them. This isn't speculation. It is happening.
+    My colleagues from the Gulf can attest to the real economic 
+pain being felt by people and businesses due to this 
+Administration's drilling moratorium. Production in the Gulf of 
+Mexico has already fallen by more than 200,000 barrels per day, 
+and it is predicted by the Energy Information Administration to 
+fall by more than 500,000 barrels per day by 2012. Every barrel 
+that we don't produce from the Gulf means more lost revenue to 
+the Federal Government, more lost jobs, and an additional 
+transfer of American wealth to hostile nations.
+    I believe in American ingenuity, and I know that we can get 
+this right. The answer is to address what went wrong and make 
+smart reforms and allow drilling to resume. The stakes are too 
+high to give up. Our economic competitiveness, American jobs, 
+and national security are on the line.
+    And with that, I recognize the distinguished Ranking 
+Member.
+    [The prepared statement of Chairman Hastings follows:]
+
+          Statement of The Honorable Doc Hastings, Chairman, 
+                     Committee on Natural Resources
+
+    It's been nine months since the horrific explosion and oil spill in 
+the Gulf of Mexico that resulted in the death of 11 men and the burning 
+and sinking of the Deepwater Horizon rig. Since then nearly five 
+million barrels of oil spilled into the Gulf; resulting in the economic 
+displacement of tens of thousands of fishermen, tourism workers, and 
+people connected to the offshore energy industry.
+    The oil spill was a terrible tragedy and the effects are still 
+being felt today.
+    As this Committee proceeds with its oversight duties, we must be 
+mindful of how we respond, because that response could significantly 
+impact American energy policy in the future. The response to this event 
+could be the difference between making offshore drilling the safest in 
+the world . . . or locking-up up our resources, putting more Americans 
+out of work, and further relying on foreign countries for our energy 
+needs.
+    It is because of these serious implications that I have stressed 
+from day one the need to have all the facts and information surrounding 
+the cause of this incident before there is a rush to judgment . . . or 
+a rush to legislate.
+    When President Obama announced that he was personally appointing an 
+Oil Spill Commission, many in Congress and around the country were 
+deeply concerned with both the make-up and mandate of the Commission.
+    There were concerns that the President's Commission didn't have 
+enough experts in engineering or experience in the oil and gas industry 
+and that it was comprised of individuals who had dedicated a 
+significant portion of their career to opposing oil and gas drilling.
+    While understanding these concerns, I kept, and am keeping, an open 
+mind on the recommendations of the President's Commission. This is why 
+it is the first scheduled Committee hearing of this Congress and I'm 
+eager to hear from its Co-Chairs.
+    This report provides further insight into the accident and will be 
+a factor in Congress' discussions. However, even with the Commission's 
+report, we still don't know precisely what caused the explosion, or why 
+the blowout preventer failed to work.
+    Additional reports from the joint Coast Guard-BOEM Marine Board 
+hearings and the Chemical Safety Board are forthcoming and I'm hopeful 
+they will provide answers to some of the lingering questions.
+    Through all this uncertainty, what I do know for sure is that 
+America needs American-made energy.
+    We need to keep and create American jobs.
+    And we need to mitigate America's dependence on foreign energy that 
+threatens our national security.
+    The oil spill was a terrible tragedy, but it should not be used as 
+an excuse to further reduce America's access to our energy resources. 
+Some in Congress view this spill as an opportunity to shut down 
+offshore drilling. That is not a solution . . . that is giving up.
+    Legislation aimed at this goal was introduced last year and will 
+predictably be proposed again this Congress. This despite the strong 
+support among the American people for continued offshore energy 
+production.
+    Republicans want to make offshore drilling the safest in the world. 
+We believe in the need to make smart, effective reforms that are 
+centered on improving safety, putting people back to work, and allowing 
+responsible drilling to move forward. The right response to this spill 
+is to focus on making drilling safe . . ., not making it impossible.
+    The importance of this Committee's future work cannot be 
+understated. Gas prices are steadily rising, . . . Iran has assumed the 
+Presidency of OPEC, . . . and rigs are leaving the Gulf for foreign 
+countries--like Cuba, Brazil and Mexico--taking American jobs with 
+them. This isn't speculation . . . it's happening.
+    My colleagues from the Gulf can attest to the real economic pain 
+being felt by people and businesses due to this Administration's 
+drilling moratorium.
+    Production in the Gulf of Mexico has already fallen by more than 
+200,000 barrels per day, and is predicted by the Energy Information 
+Administration to fall by more than 500,000 barrels per day by 2012.
+    Every barrel we don't produce from the Gulf means more lost revenue 
+to the federal government, more lost jobs, and an additional transfer 
+of American wealth to hostile nations.
+    I believe in American ingenuity and I know we can get this right. 
+The answer is to address what went wrong, make smart reforms and allow 
+drilling to resume. The stakes are too high to give up. Our economic 
+competitiveness, American jobs and natural security are on the line.
+                                 ______
+                                 
+
+ STATEMENT OF THE HON. ED MARKEY, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS 
+                FROM THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS
+
+    Mr. Markey. I thank the Chairman very much, and we thank 
+you.
+    And on behalf of the Democratic Members of the Committee, 
+please accept our sincere congratulations on your appointment 
+as Chairman.
+    We, on this side of the aisle, look forward to a productive 
+working relationship with you and with the majority, 
+occasionally punctuated by knockdown drag-out fights over 
+issues that we all care about deeply.
+    While I applaud the Chairman for holding this hearing 
+today, I am also deeply saddened that this hearing is 
+necessary. Industry and Federal regulators assured the American 
+public that a disaster like the BP Deepwater Horizon spill 
+could not happen. The events of last April and the subsequent 
+investigations have demonstrated that those assurances were 
+worthless. The American people are left to count the economic 
+and environmental costs and 11 families are left without their 
+loved ones.
+    It is vital to our Nation's energy future that we examine 
+the causes of this tragedy with clear eyes, assess the lessons 
+to be learned with open minds, and commit ourselves to 
+fundamental reform with firm resolve.
+    In the testimony submitted for this hearing, the Commission 
+Co-Chairmen--and we thank you both so much for your service to 
+our country--point out that ``the United States has the highest 
+reported rate of fatalities per hours worked in offshore oil 
+and gas drilling among its international peers.''
+    Mr. Chairman, that shocking statistic does not mean that BP 
+or Transocean or Halliburton operate unsafely. It means that 
+the entire American offshore oil and gas industry operates 
+unsafely compared to its international peers.
+    To quote from our witnesses again: ``The central lesson to 
+be drawn from the catastrophe is that no less than an 
+overhauling of both current industry practices and government 
+oversight is now required.''
+    Mr. Chairman, this is not a time for half measures or 
+tinkering around the edges. This is a time for bold reforms. 
+The lives lost and the damage done as a result of this tragedy 
+require nothing short of fundamental change in the way we 
+conduct the business of offshore oil and gas development and 
+production.
+    I am proud that Democrats in the House took a major step 
+toward such an overhaul by passing the Consolidated Land, 
+Energy and Aquatic Resources Act in the last Congress, known as 
+the CLEAR Act. The legislation included many of the 
+recommendations contained in the Commission's report.
+    While my colleagues on the Republican side may not have 
+liked all that was in that legislation, it is my hope that now 
+the Commission has made many of the same recommendations, that 
+we can work together in a bipartisan effort to craft new 
+legislation.
+    To that end, I have joined with Ranking Members Waxman and 
+Rahall, Miller and Johnson, along with Energy Ranking Member 
+Rush Holt and other Members to introduce new legislation 
+combining the best elements of the CLEAR Act with 
+recommendations from the Commission. We welcome review of that 
+legislation by the Commission and by our colleagues on both 
+sides of the aisle.
+    If we are shortsighted and complacent, today's hearing will 
+be an end. If we are visionary and engaged, today's hearing is 
+only the beginning of having America have the safest and most 
+productive oil and natural gas industry. That should be our 
+goal. And that is the goal I think every American should be 
+aiming to achieve in any legislation we pass.
+    In closing, again, let me offer my sincere gratitude to 
+Senator Graham; to you, Administrator Reilly; and to all of the 
+Commission members and the staff for their Herculean effort and 
+their willingness to take on this investigation and their 
+dedication to completing it in such a short period of time and 
+with such thoroughness.
+    This Committee and the American people are in your debt, 
+and I thank you for your efforts. And I thank the Chairman for 
+extending me those few extra seconds.
+    [The prepared statement of Mr. Markey follows:]
+
+     Statement of The Honorable Edward J. Markey, Ranking Member, 
+                     Committee on Natural Resources
+
+    Thank you Chairman Hastings and on behalf of the Democratic members 
+of the Committee, please accept our sincere congratulations on your 
+appointment as Chairman. We on this side of the aisle look forward to a 
+productive working relationship--punctuated by knock-down, drag-out 
+fights over issues we all care about deeply.
+    While I applaud the Chairman for holding this hearing today, I am 
+also deeply saddened that this hearing is necessary. Industry and 
+federal regulators assured the American public that a disaster like the 
+BP Deepwater Horizon spill could not happen.
+    The events of last April and the subsequent investigations have 
+demonstrated that those assurances were worthless. The American people 
+are left to count the economic and environmental costs and eleven 
+families are left without their loved ones.
+    It is vital to our nation's energy future that we examine the 
+causes of this tragedy with clear eyes, assess the lessons to be 
+learned with open minds, and commit ourselves to fundamental reform 
+with firm resolve.
+    In the testimony submitted for this hearing, the Commission Co-
+Chairmen point out that, ``the United States has the highest reported 
+rate of fatalities per hours worked in offshore oil and gas drilling 
+among its international peers.''
+    Mr. Chairman, that shocking statistic does not mean that BP or 
+Transocean or Halliburton operate unsafely; it means that the entire 
+American offshore oil and gas industry operates unsafely, compared to 
+its international peers.
+    To quote from our witnesses again, ``the central lesson to be drawn 
+from the catastrophe is that no less than an overhauling of both 
+current industry practices and government oversight is now required.''
+    Mr. Chairman, this is not a time for half measures or tinkering 
+around the edges; this is a time for bold reforms. The lives lost and 
+the damage done as a result of this tragedy require nothing short of 
+fundamental change in the way we conduct the business of offshore oil 
+and gas development and production.
+    I am proud that Democrats in the House took a major step toward 
+such an overhaul by passing the Consolidated Land, Energy, and Aquatic 
+Resources Act in the last Congress. Known as the CLEAR Act, that 
+legislation included many of the recommendations contained in the 
+Commission's report.
+    While my colleagues on the Republican side opposed that effort, it 
+is my hope that, now that the Commission has made many of the same 
+recommendations, we can work together in a bipartisan effort to craft 
+new legislation. To that end, I have joined Ranking Members Waxman, 
+Rahall, Miller, and Johnson, along with Energy Subcommittee Ranking 
+Member Holt and other Members, to introduce new legislation combining 
+the best elements of the CLEAR Act with recommendations from the 
+Commission. We welcome review of our legislation by the Commission and 
+by our colleagues on both sides of the aisle.
+    If we are shortsighted and complacent, today's hearing will be an 
+end. If we are visionary and engaged, today's hearing is only the 
+beginning.
+    In closing, let me offer my sincere gratitude to Senator Graham, 
+Mr. Reilly, and all the Commission members and staff for their 
+willingness to take on this investigation and their dedication in 
+completing it so thoroughly. This committee and the American people are 
+in your debt.
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    The Chairman. I thank the gentleman.
+    And I thank the gentleman for his opening comments. I, too, 
+look forward to working with you. And I want to welcome the two 
+witnesses here today. I know that since this event happened and 
+since the appointment of the Commission, there is a lot of work 
+done by both of you.
+    The Honorable Bill Reilly is a former Administrator of the 
+EPA and, of course, on the Hill people do remember the Florida 
+Senator, Bob Graham, and former Governor, if I am not mistaken, 
+of the State of Florida. So certainly there is expertise.
+    So, with that, I would just remind you that under Committee 
+rules, you have 5 minutes for your oral testimony. However, 
+your full statement will appear in the record.
+    You note that over here, we have these little boxes that 
+have green lights, yellow lights and red lights. When the red 
+light comes on, you know you are at 5 minutes. When the yellow 
+light is on, you are up to 4.5 minutes and you have 30 seconds.
+    With that, we will allow both of you to testify and then we 
+will open up to questions to an eager Committee that wants to 
+talk.
+    So, with that, I will first introduce Mr. Reilly. Mr. 
+Reilly, you are on.
+
+     STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE WILLIAM K. REILLY, FORMER 
+   ADMINISTRATOR OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, CO-
+ CHAIRMAN, NATIONAL COMMISSION ON THE BP DEEPWATER HORIZON OIL 
+                  SPILL AND OFFSHORE DRILLING
+
+    Mr. Reilly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member Markey, 
+members of the Committee, it is a privilege and an honor for us 
+to appear before you as it has been for us to serve on this 
+Commission, particularly for me to serve with my distinguished 
+friend and long time, long time friend and colleague, Bob 
+Graham. I will make a brief statement and ask that my testimony 
+be included in the record.
+    I want to begin by saying that with respect to oil and gas, 
+we need the resource. It is vital to the economy, to our 
+mobility, to our way of life. It is itself, the oil and gas 
+industry, a significant contributor to productivity, to jobs, 
+to our GDP and to avoiding even more necessity to import from 
+the international oil market.
+    This Commission believes that we can develop offshore oil 
+and gas resources safely; we can do it in the deep water, and I 
+would signal that the deep water is where it is. That is where 
+the industry has been going and will be going in an even more 
+significant way in the years to come.
+    But the country's confidence in offshore oil and gas 
+development has been shattered. The Commission determined that 
+the government and industry both were characterized by an aura 
+of complacency. That has attracted a good deal of attention and 
+some criticism. I would just say very briefly that, as I 
+learned from Tony Hayward, the CEO of BP, the week after I took 
+office as Commission Co-Chairman, when you learn from him that 
+there is effectively no subsea containment technology or 
+capability, when you look at response plans that talk about 
+protecting walruses in the Gulf of Mexico, when you see the 
+wholly inadequate response technology that has not evolved 
+since I oversaw it 20 years before in Prince William Sound, and 
+when you see that there have been 79 instances of loss of well 
+control between 1996 and 2009 in the Gulf and that we have, as 
+was mentioned, a fatality rate that is 5 times that of the 
+North Sea in a much more punishing environment--and then 
+finally that you have key omnipresent contractors who are 
+deeply implicated in the bad decisions that contributed to the 
+high risk that we uncovered--you have to conclude both that 
+there was an aura of complacency--and so many industry leaders 
+have said, which I would have said myself, we didn't think this 
+was possible, and we didn't think this could happen--but also 
+that contractors who have supplied faulty cement to a BP rig or 
+who have failed to detect gas rising in the drill pipe on a BP 
+rig, it is inconceivable given their presence in all of the 
+oceans in the world where oil and gas are developed, it is 
+inconceivable to us that this would only have been confined to 
+one company, to a rogue company, which was my own conviction, 
+my own premise starting out.
+    So we did conclude this is a systemic problem that has been 
+characterized by an atmosphere of complacency.
+    I want to signal one more thing and that is the history of 
+the budget of the government regulatory agency of which we are 
+quite hard, we are quite critical of its effectiveness, its 
+capability, its lack of professionalism, to carry out the 
+assignment that the law gives it to monitor and control and 
+regulate this industry. The budget for MMS, the predecessor to 
+the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and 
+Enforcement (BOEMRE), has gone down 20 percent since 1984, 
+while offshore oil and gas production has tripled.
+    So to address these issues, we have three principal 
+proposals: First is for a safety authority within the Interior 
+Department entirely walled off from political interference with 
+a Director appointed for a term much like the FBI Director and 
+adequately resourced and budgeted, provided for.
+    We recommend that industry establish a safety institute. 
+The high-risk industries that have had catastrophes have 
+learned from them: The chemical industry after Bhopal with 
+Responsible Care and the nuclear industry after Three Mile 
+Island with the Institute for Nuclear Power Operations (INPO). 
+Those should be focused on best practice and should bring up 
+the game for everybody and allow the best companies to have 
+some means of ensuring that one laggard company, one bad 
+performer does not bring everybody down and cause all their 
+rigs to be shut down in the Gulf, as was the case last summer.
+    Finally, I just want to signal the international dimensions 
+of our issue. If you look at a map of the Gulf of Mexico, the 
+United States has sovereign jurisdiction over far less than all 
+of it. We now know Mexico intends to go into deep water in two 
+years, Cuba within the next year or two, and we need some kind 
+of international understanding or treaty with respect to the 
+standards that will apply to those activities.
+    We also need it in the Arctic, where Russia is intending to 
+go into its Arctic waters with BP and Rosneft. Canada. Denmark 
+has already begun, and Greenland last summer. We need the same 
+kind of attention on the part of our State Department to ensure 
+that the Arctic waters are given the kind of special protection 
+that they deserve. We make a number of recommendations 
+particularly relevant to science and the science that is needed 
+to pursue oil and gas development in those very different 
+waters with all of the high risks that special storm action, 
+fog and deep cold entail.
+    Well, those are some of the principal recommendations I 
+wanted to cover, Mr. Chairman. I would only say that they are 
+relatively modest in my view, in terms, both of money, 
+certainly in terms of bureaucracy and disruption. To reorganize 
+the Interior Department will not take much in the way of money. 
+To budget adequately the BOEMRE, it will take some, but it is 
+relatively small in lieu of both the huge cost of the accident 
+we just experienced and the overall revenues that the United 
+States receives from offshore oil and gas development leases 
+and royalties. I think it is money that would be well invested, 
+and we look forward to your questions and recognize that from 
+the point of view of the Commission, we are just about done. So 
+it really is over to you.
+    Thank you, sir.
+    The Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Reilly. I appreciate very much 
+your testimony.
+    Senator Graham, you are on.
+
+ STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE BOB GRAHAM, SENATOR, CO-CHAIRMAN, 
+ NATIONAL COMMISSION ON THE BP DEEPWATER HORIZON OIL SPILL AND 
+                       OFFSHORE DRILLING
+
+    Mr. Graham. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, Ranking 
+Member Markey and other members of this Committee.
+    And I know many of you are commencing your service in 
+Congress, and let me extend my congratulations. You are 
+beginning a journey which will have immense gratification and 
+personal pleasure. I congratulate you and wish you well in your 
+service.
+    Mr. Chairman, our Commission was established in May of last 
+year. We were given three responsibilities: First was to 
+determine the cause of the Deepwater Horizon explosion; second, 
+to evaluate the response to that disaster; and third to advise 
+the Nation about future energy exploration, particularly in the 
+offshore environment.
+    On January 11th, we submitted our report, called ``Deep 
+Water: The Gulf Oil Disaster and the Future of Offshore 
+Drilling.'' We had been initially subject to some criticism. 
+One was that we lacked independence. In the course of our 
+investigation, we were able to make just about everybody mad at 
+us. From time to time, the industry was mad, and the White 
+House was mad. Maybe this Committee escaped that. I believe we 
+established the fact that we were looking at this from the 
+perspective of the American people's interest and none other.
+    Second, there was some criticism that we weren't competent 
+to carry out this task. It would be immodest to try to defend 
+our competency. I would just submit our report, its findings 
+and recommendations, and you can evaluate whether you think 
+that we had the skills, both among the seven commissioners and 
+in an excellent staff led by Mr. Richard Lazarus, who gave us 
+tremendous support throughout this endeavor.
+    I would like to make one general comment before I turn to 
+the two areas that I am particularly going to discuss, and that 
+is that there is a difference in the offshore of the Gulf from 
+what we knnw well, which is onshore oil and gas production. 
+Onshore oil and gas production is a combination of drilling on 
+privately owned land and public land. All of the drilling in 
+the Gulf of Mexico is on publicly owned land, land which 
+belongs to the people of the United States of America.
+    So I think the way to look at this is not just as a 
+regulator, a government regulating a private enterprise going 
+about its private business. We also are in the role of a 
+landlord. We have an obligation to protect this asset that 
+belongs to all of the people of America and to be able to 
+continue to draw upon it for a variety of purposes. Yes, 
+energy, but also it is a major source of American seafood, and 
+it is one of our major tourist areas, just to mention three of 
+the benefits that we derive from the Gulf. So are we fulfilling 
+our responsibility to be a prudent landlord?
+    I am going to discuss the area of response and containment 
+and then the issue of, where do we go from here in terms of 
+restoration of the Gulf?
+    My good friend, Bill Reilly, has already mentioned that the 
+response to this event was, to say the least, very 
+disappointing. Although there were some respondents who acted 
+quickly, some heroically, the Commission concluded that neither 
+BP nor the Federal Government was prepared to conduct an 
+effective response. There was a failure to plan in advance for 
+such an event, a failure to coordinate, particularly between 
+Federal agencies and State and local officials. In addition, 
+neither the industry nor the Federal Government had invested in 
+the research to understand in an anticipatory way what we would 
+be facing if we had such an event as the Macondo blowout.
+    Much of the technology that we were able to bring to this 
+problem was the same technology that had been used 20 years 
+earlier in the Exxon Valdez, which is to say there was almost 
+no technological advances taken as a result of the experience 
+of Exxon Valdez.
+    We have made a number of recommendations on response and 
+containment, including that the Department of the Interior, in 
+consultation with other agencies, should develop a more 
+rigorous set of requirements for industry response plans. No 
+more polar bears or walruses in the response plans for the Gulf 
+of Mexico.
+    The EPA and the Coast Guard should involve State and local 
+governments as significant players; the Congress should provide 
+adequate and sustained funding for oil spills, including and 
+particularly research into how to mitigate oil spills; and the 
+industry should fund a private organization to develop, adopt 
+and enforce standards of excellence to assure continuous 
+improvement in the technology for oil spill response.
+    The second area is restoration. The day before this event 
+was April 19, 2010. If we define our goal as being to restore 
+the Gulf to the condition that it was in on April 19th, we have 
+missed an enormous opportunity. Frankly, the Gulf on April 19th 
+was a degraded area. It had suffered from decades of misuse and 
+most dramatically shown by the marshes of Louisiana, which have 
+been receding at a rate of over one football field every 30 
+minutes.
+    We felt that this was a chance to begin a major process of 
+restoring this very important part of our Nation. We have 
+recommended that 80 percent of the fines and penalties that we 
+anticipate will be assessed under the Clean Water Act be 
+directed at Gulf restoration. That will require your approval. 
+Only Congress can make that commitment of those fines and 
+penalties. But we believe that it would be money well spent.
+    We recognize that it will require a significant amount of 
+time, probably in the range of 20 to 30 years, to complete an 
+effective restoration. We believe that these funds would be the 
+basis of a major down payment toward that objective.
+    I would like to conclude my remarks--and I got the signal, 
+Mr. Chairman--that drilling is inherently risky. We can never 
+reduce it to zero. But we believe the steps that we have 
+recommended will substantially reduce the probabilities of a 
+repeat Macondo and, should that happen, will significantly 
+enhance our capacity to restrain its consequences.
+    Mr. Chairman, I will submit my full report. I appreciate 
+your willingness to receive it. I look forward to responding to 
+your questions.
+    [The joint prepared statement of Mr. Reilly and Senator 
+Graham follows:]
+
+Statement of The Honorable Bob Graham and The Honorable William Reilly, 
+Co-Chairmen, National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill 
+                         and Offshore Drilling
+
+I. Introduction
+    Chairman Hastings, Ranking Member Markey, and members of the 
+Committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today on behalf of 
+the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and 
+Offshore Drilling.
+    The explosion that tore through the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig 
+last April 20, as the rig's crew completed drilling the exploratory 
+Macondo well deep under the waters of the Gulf of Mexico, began a 
+human, economic, and environmental disaster.
+    Eleven crew members died, and others were seriously injured, as 
+fire engulfed and ultimately destroyed the rig. And, although the 
+nation would not know the full scope of the disaster for weeks, the 
+first of more than four million barrels of oil began gushing 
+uncontrolled into the Gulf--threatening livelihoods, the health of Gulf 
+coast residents and of those responding to the spill, precious 
+habitats, and even a unique way of life. A treasured American 
+landscape, already battered and degraded from years of mismanagement, 
+faced yet another blow as the oil spread and washed ashore. Five years 
+after Hurricane Katrina, the nation was again transfixed, seemingly 
+helpless, as this new tragedy unfolded in the Gulf. The costs from this 
+one industrial accident are not yet fully counted, but it is already 
+clear that the impacts on the region's natural systems and people were 
+enormous, and that economic losses total tens of billions of dollars.
+    On May 22, 2010, President Barack Obama announced the creation of 
+the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and 
+Offshore Drilling (the ``Commission''): an independent, nonpartisan 
+entity, directed to provide thorough analysis and impartial judgment. 
+The President charged the Commission to determine the causes of the 
+disaster, and to improve the country's ability to respond to spills, 
+and to recommend reforms to make offshore energy production safer. And 
+the President said we were to follow the facts wherever they led.
+    This Commission report (the ``Report''), which we ask be made part 
+of the hearing record in its entirety, is the result of an intense six-
+month effort to fulfill the President's charge. As a result of our 
+investigation, we conclude:
+          The explosive loss of the Macondo well could have 
+        been prevented.
+          The immediate causes of the Macondo well blowout can 
+        be traced to a series of identifiable mistakes made by BP, 
+        Halliburton, and Transocean that reveal such systematic 
+        failures in risk management that they place in doubt the safety 
+        culture of the entire industry.
+          Deepwater energy exploration and production, 
+        particularly at the frontiers of experience, involve risks for 
+        which neither industry nor government has been adequately 
+        prepared, but for which they can and must be prepared in the 
+        future.
+          To assure human safety and environmental protection, 
+        regulatory oversight of leasing, energy exploration, and 
+        production require reforms even beyond those significant 
+        reforms already initiated since the Deepwater Horizon disaster. 
+        Fundamental reform will be needed in both the structure of 
+        those in charge of regulatory oversight and their internal 
+        decision-making process to ensure their political autonomy, 
+        technical expertise, and their full consideration of 
+        environmental protection concerns.
+          Because regulatory oversight alone will not be 
+        sufficient to ensure adequate safety, the oil and gas industry 
+        will need to take its own, unilateral steps to increase 
+        dramatically safety throughout the industry, including self-
+        policing mechanisms that supplement governmental enforcement.
+          The technology, laws and regulations, and practices 
+        for containing, responding to, and cleaning up spills lag 
+        behind the real risks associated with deepwater drilling into 
+        large, high-pressure reservoirs of oil and gas located far 
+        offshore and thousands of feet below the ocean's surface. 
+        Government must close the existing gap and industry must 
+        support rather than resist that effort.
+          Scientific understanding of environmental conditions 
+        in sensitive environments in deep Gulf waters, along the 
+        region's coastal habitats, and in areas proposed for more 
+        drilling, such as the Arctic, is inadequate. The same is true 
+        of the human and natural impacts of oil spills.
+    We reach these conclusions, and make necessary recommendations, in 
+a constructive spirit: we aim to promote changes that will make 
+American offshore energy exploration and production far safer, today 
+and in the future.
+II. The Root Causes of the Explosion
+    The Commission examined in great detail what went wrong on the rig 
+itself. Our investigative staff uncovered a wealth of specific 
+information that greatly enhances our understanding of the factors that 
+led to the explosion. The results of that investigation are described 
+in detail in Chapter 4 of the Report. The separate report of the chief 
+counsel, to be published soon, will offer the fullest account yet of 
+what happened on the rig and why. There are recurring themes of missed 
+warning signals, failure to share information, and a general lack of 
+appreciation for the risks involved. In the view of the Commission, 
+these findings highlight the importance of organizational culture and a 
+consistent commitment to safety by industry, from the highest 
+management levels on down.
+    To summarize, the Macondo blowout happened because a number of 
+separate risk factors, oversights, and outright mistakes combined to 
+overwhelm the safeguards--promised by both government and by private 
+industry--to prevent just such an event from happening. But most of the 
+mistakes and oversights at Macondo can be traced back to a single 
+overarching failure--a failure of management by BP, Halliburton and 
+Transocean. Set out below are what Commission investigative staff 
+determined were ``key facts.''
+    Key Facts: The investigation team identified several key human 
+errors, engineering mistakes and management failures including:
+          A flawed design for the cement slurry used to seal 
+        the bottom of the well, which was developed without adequate 
+        engineering review or operator supervision;
+          A ``negative pressure test,'' conducted to evaluate 
+        the cement seal at the bottom of the well, identified a 
+        cementing failure but was incorrectly judged a success because 
+        of insufficiently rigorous test procedures and inadequate 
+        training of key personnel;
+          Flawed procedures for securing the well that called 
+        for unnecessarily removing drilling mud from the wellbore. If 
+        left in place, that drilling mud would have helped prevent 
+        hydrocarbons from entering the well and causing the blowout;
+          Apparent inattention to key initial signals of the 
+        impending blowout; and
+          An ineffective response to the blowout once it began, 
+        including but not limited to a failure of the rig's blowout 
+        preventer to close off the well.
+    Key Findings: The ``key facts'' led investigators to make the 
+following ``key findings'':
+          Errors and misjudgments by at least three companies--
+        BP, Halliburton and Transocean--contributed to the disaster.
+          Management failures included:
+            Inadequate training of key personnel.
+            Inadequate management of numerous late-stage well 
+        design decisions.
+            Poor communication within and between the companies 
+        involved.
+            Inadequate risk evaluation and risk mitigation 
+        measures.
+          The disaster could have been prevented. Notably, 
+        workers on the rig incorrectly interpreted clear warning signs 
+        of a hydrocarbon influx during the negative pressure test. If 
+        recognized, those warning signs would have allowed them to shut 
+        in the well before the blowout began.
+          Government regulations did not address several key 
+        causes of the blowout, and regulators lacked the resources or 
+        technical expertise to address others.
+          Whether purposeful or not, many of the risk-enhancing 
+        decisions that BP, Halliburton, and Transocean made saved those 
+        companies significant time (and money).
+    The Commission's investigation concludes that these failures were 
+preventable. Errors and misjudgments by at least three companies--BP, 
+Halliburton and Transocean--contributed to the disaster. Federal 
+regulations did not address many of the key issues. For example, no 
+regulation specified basic procedures for the negative pressure test 
+used to evaluate the cement seal or minimum criteria for test success. 
+The chapter also notes that, '' . . . whether purposeful or not, many 
+of the decisions that BP, Halliburton, and Transocean made that 
+increased the risk of the Macondo blowout clearly saved those companies 
+significant time (and money).''
+    Attached to this testimony is a table that sets out decisions that 
+increased risk at Macondo, while potentially saving time.
+III. Regulatory Oversight and the Need for Reform
+Regulatory Oversight
+    The responsibilities assigned to the Minerals Management Services 
+(MMS) in an effort to regulate the offshore oil and gas industry have 
+created conflicts of interest and have been subject to pressure from 
+political and industry interests. MMS was not only responsible for 
+offshore leasing and resource management; it also collected and 
+disbursed revenues from offshore leasing, conducted environmental 
+reviews, reviewed plans and issued permits, conducted audits and 
+inspections, and enforced safety and environmental regulations.
+    Over the course of many years, political pressure generated by a 
+demand for lease revenues and industry pressure to expand access and 
+expedite permit approvals and other regulatory processes often combined 
+to push MMS to elevate revenue and permitting goals over safety and 
+environmental goals. As a result, the safety of U.S. offshore workers 
+has suffered. The United States has the highest reported rate of 
+fatalities per hours worked in offshore oil and gas drilling among its 
+international peers (the U.K., Norway, Canada, and Australia) but has 
+the lowest reporting of injuries. This striking contrast suggests a 
+significant under-reporting of injuries in the United States.
+    These problems were compounded by an outdated organizational 
+structure, a chronic shortage of resources, a lack of sufficient 
+technological expertise, and the inherent difficulty of coordinating 
+effectively with all of the other government agencies that have had 
+statutory responsibility for some aspect of offshore oil and gas 
+activities. Besides MMS, the Departments of Transportation, Commerce, 
+Defense, and Homeland Security, and the Environmental Protection Agency 
+(EPA) were involved in some aspect of the industry and its many-faceted 
+facilities and operations, from workers on production platforms to 
+pipelines, helicopters, drilling rigs, and supply vessels.
+Reorganization Needed
+    To remedy this conflict of interest, Congress should create an 
+independent agency with enforcement authority to oversee all aspects of 
+offshore drilling safety (operational and occupational) as well as the 
+structural and operational integrity of all offshore energy production 
+facilities, including both oil and gas production and renewable energy 
+production. The roles and responsibilities of BOEMRE should be 
+separated into three entities with clearly defined statutory 
+authorities.
+        (1)  The Offshore Safety Authority would have primary statutory 
+        responsibility for overseeing the structural and operational 
+        integrity of all offshore energy-related facilities and 
+        activities, including both oil and gas offshore drilling and 
+        renewable energy facilities. Congress should enact an organic 
+        act to establish its authorities and responsibilities, 
+        consolidating the various responsibilities now under the OCSLA, 
+        the Pipeline Safety Act, and Coast Guard authorizations. This 
+        should include responsibility for all workers in energy related 
+        offshore activities.
+        (2)  The Leasing and Environmental Science Office would be 
+        charged with fostering environmentally responsible and 
+        efficient development of the Outer Continental Shelf, and would 
+        act as the leasing and resource manager for conventional 
+        renewable energy and other mineral resources on the OCS. The 
+        Office would also be responsible for conducting reviews under 
+        the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA).
+        (3)  The Office of Natural Resources Revenue would be 
+        responsible for revenue collection and auditing.
+    Congress should review and consider amending where necessary the 
+governing statutes for all agencies involved in offshore activities to 
+be consistent with the responsibilities functionally assigned to those 
+agencies. The safety-related responsibilities of the new offshore 
+safety agency should be included in a separate statute.
+    Since the Commission issued its final report on January 11th, 
+Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar has already announced changes in 
+the organization within Interior that reflect many of the Commission's 
+recommendations. Other Commission recommendations will require 
+congressional action, especially those recommendations that seek to 
+promote the independence of the Offshore Safety Authority from 
+politics. For instance, the Commission recommends that the head of the 
+Safety Authority be appointed to a fixed term that cuts across any one 
+Presidential Administration, a change that can be accomplished most 
+effectively only by statute.
+Regulation to Better Manage Risk
+    The Commission also recommends a more comprehensive overhaul of 
+both the leasing program and the regulatory policies and institutions 
+used to oversee the safety and environmental protection of offshore 
+activities. The goals must be to reduce and manage risk more 
+effectively, using strategies that can keep pace with a technologically 
+complex and rapidly evolving industry, particularly in high-risk and 
+frontier areas, and to secure the resources needed to execute the 
+leasing function and provide adequate regulatory oversight. To 
+accomplish these goals the Commission offers the following three 
+recommendations:
+          The DOI should promulgate prescriptive safety and 
+        pollution-prevention standards that are developed and selected 
+        in consultation with international regulatory peers and that 
+        are at least as rigorous as the leasing terms and regulatory 
+        requirements of peer oil-producing nations.
+          The Department of the Interior (DOI) should develop a 
+        proactive, risk-based performance approach specific to 
+        individual facilities, operations, and environments, similar to 
+        the ``safety case'' approach in the North Sea which requires 
+        drilling rigs to be certified and have safety management 
+        obligations separate and apart from the operator.
+          Working with the International Regulators' Forum and 
+        other organizations, Congress and the DOI should identify those 
+        drilling, production, and emergency-response standards that 
+        best protect offshore workers and the environment, and initiate 
+        new standards and revisions to fill gaps and correct 
+        deficiencies. These standards should be applied throughout the 
+        Gulf of Mexico, in the Arctic, and globally wherever the 
+        international industry operates. Standards should be updated at 
+        least every five years, as under the formal review process of 
+        the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). (See 
+        below for expansion on the development of international 
+        regulations.)
+    BOEMRE currently relies heavily on prescriptive regulations 
+incorporating a number of industry technical standards. Prescriptive 
+regulations must be the basis of an effective regulatory system, but 
+given the many variables in deepwater drilling, prescriptive rules can 
+never cover all cases. The federal agency responsible for offshore 
+activity must have a regulatory approach that integrates more 
+sophisticated risk assessment and risk management practices into its 
+oversight of energy developers operating offshore. The focus should 
+shift from prescriptive regulations covering only the operator to a 
+foundation of augmented prescriptive regulations, including those 
+relating to well design and integrity, supplemented by a proactive, 
+risk-based performance approach that is specific to individual 
+facilities (production platforms and drilling rigs), operations, and 
+environments. Both the operator and the drilling rig owners would have 
+a legal duty to assess and manage the risks of a specific activity by 
+engaging all contractors and subcontractors in a coordinated safety 
+management system.
+    To ensure that Interior has the ability to provide adequate leasing 
+capabilities and regulatory oversight for the increasingly complex 
+energy-related activities being undertaken on the OCS, budgets for 
+these new offices as well as existing agencies should come directly 
+from fees paid by the offshore industry, akin to how fees charged to 
+the telecommunications industry pay for the expenses of the Federal 
+Communications Commission, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the 
+Office of Pipeline Safety which are essentially fully funded by such 
+regulated industry payments. Through this mechanism, Congress, through 
+legislation, and DOI, through lease provisions, could expressly oblige 
+lessees to fund the regulation necessary to allow for private industry 
+access to the energy resources on the OCS, including renewables.
+IV. Environmental Review
+    As part of its inquiry into the existing regulatory structure for 
+offshore drilling, the Commission reviewed existing mechanisms for 
+protecting the environment. In its work on this question, the 
+Commission focused on two issues: (1) the application of National 
+Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) requirements to the offshore leasing 
+process and (2) the need for better science and greater interagency 
+consultation to improve decision-making related to management of 
+offshore resources.
+NEPA
+    Based on the Commission's review of leasing and permitting 
+processes in the Gulf of Mexico before the Deepwater Horizon incident, 
+the Commission concluded that the breakdown of the environmental review 
+process for OCS activities was systemic and that Interior's historical 
+approach to the application of NEPA requirements for offshore oil and 
+gas activities needs significant revision. In particular, the 
+application of tiering, use of categorical exclusions, the practice of 
+area-wide leasing, and failure to develop formal NEPA guidance all 
+contributed to this breakdown. The Commission recommends that the 
+Council on Environmental Quality and the Department of the Interior 
+revise and strengthen the NEPA policies, practices, and procedures to 
+improve the level of environmental analysis, transparency, and 
+consistency at all stages of the OCS planning, leasing, exploration, 
+and development process.
+Improved Interagency Consultation and Environmental Science
+    Under OCSLA, it is up to the Secretary of the Interior to choose 
+the proper balance between environmental protection and resource 
+development. In making leasing decisions, the Secretary is required to 
+solicit and consider suggestions from any interested agency, but he or 
+she is not required to respond to the comments or accord them any 
+particular weight. Similar issues arise at the individual lease sale 
+stage and at the development and production plan stage. As a result, 
+NOAA--the nation's ocean agency with the most expertise in marine 
+science and the management of living marine resources--effectively has 
+the same limited role as the general public in the decisions on 
+selecting where and when to lease portions of the OCS. The Commission 
+recommends a more robust and formal interagency consultation process in 
+which NOAA, in particular, is provided a heightened role, but ultimate 
+decision-making authority is retained at DOI. The Commission further 
+recommends the creation of an Office of Environmental Science, led by a 
+Chief Environmental Scientist, with specified responsibilities in 
+conducting all NEPA reviews, coordinating other environmental reviews, 
+and whose expert judgment on environmental protection concerns would be 
+accorded significant weight in leasing decision-making.
+V. Reforming Industry Safety Practices
+Changing Business As Usual
+    Without effective government oversight, the offshore oil and gas 
+industry will not adequately reduce the risk of accidents, nor prepare 
+effectively to respond in emergencies. However, government oversight 
+alone cannot reduce those risks to the fullest extent possible. 
+Government oversight must be accompanied by the oil and gas industry's 
+internal reinvention: sweeping reforms that accomplish no less than a 
+fundamental transformation of its safety culture.
+    Even the most inherently risky industry can be made much safer, 
+given the right incentives and disciplined systems, sustained by 
+committed leadership and effective training. The critical common 
+element is an unwavering commitment to safety at the top of an 
+organization: the CEO and board of directors.
+Industry Self-Policing as a Supplement to Government Regulation
+    One of the key responsibilities of government is to regulate--to 
+direct the behavior of individuals and institutions according to rules. 
+Many businesses and business groups are involved in internal standard 
+setting, evaluation, and other activities that constitute self-policing 
+or self-regulation. But even in industries with strong self-policing, 
+government also needs to be strongly present, providing oversight and/
+or additional regulatory control--responsibilities that cannot be 
+abdicated if public safety, health, and welfare are to be protected.
+    Industry-standard setting and self-policing organizations are 
+widespread in the United States and in most industrialized nations--
+typically for operations marked by technical complexity, such as the 
+chemical, nuclear power, civil aviation, and oil and gas industries, 
+where government oversight is also present. These processes coexist 
+where there are relatively limited numbers of people with the requisite 
+expertise and experience, making it hard for government to be able to 
+rely solely on its own personnel (especially when government cannot 
+compete with private-sector salaries for those experts). Support for 
+standard setting and self-policing also arises in industries whose 
+reputations depend on the performance of each company, and where 
+significant revenues are at stake. However, industry self-policing is 
+not a substitute for government but serves as an important supplement 
+to government oversight.
+    After Three Mile Island, the nuclear power industry established the 
+Institute of Nuclear Power Operations (INPO), a nonprofit organization 
+with the ambitious mission ``to promote the highest levels of safety 
+and reliability--to promote excellence--in the operation of commercial 
+nuclear power plants.'' The oil and gas industry, like the nuclear 
+power industry, has both the substantial economic resources and the 
+necessary economic incentive to make it happen. INPO was formed because 
+doing so was in the industry's self-interest. As the Deepwater Horizon 
+disaster made unambiguously clear, the entire industry's reputation, 
+and perhaps its viability, ultimately turn on its lowest-performing 
+members. If any one company is involved in an accident with widespread 
+and potentially enormous costs, like those that followed the Macondo 
+blowout, everyone in the industry--companies and employees--suffers, as 
+do regional economies and the nation as a whole. No one, in industry or 
+in government, can afford a repeat of the Macondo explosion and spill.
+    Like the nuclear power industry in 1979, the nation's oil and gas 
+industry needs now to embrace the potential for an industry safety 
+institute to supplement government oversight of industry operations. To 
+be credible, any industry-created safety institute would need to have 
+complete command of technical expertise available through industry 
+sources--and complete freedom from any suggestion that its operations 
+are compromised by multiple other interests and agendas. As a 
+consensus-based organization, the American Petroleum Institute (API) is 
+culturally ill-suited to drive a safety revolution in the industry. For 
+this reason, it is essential that the safety enterprise operate apart 
+from the API. API's longstanding role as an industry lobbyist and 
+policy advocate--with an established record of opposing reform and 
+modernization of safety regulations--renders it inappropriate to serve 
+a self-policing function.
+    The INPO experience makes clear that any successful oil and gas 
+industry safety institute would require in the first instance strong 
+board-level support from CEOs and boards of directors of companies for 
+a rigorous inspection and auditing function. Such audits would need to 
+be aimed at assessing companies' safety cultures and encouraging 
+learning about implementation of enhanced practices. The inspection and 
+auditing function would need to be conducted by safety institute staff, 
+complemented by experts seconded from industry companies. There would 
+also need to be a commitment to share findings about safety records and 
+best practices within the industry, aggregate data, and analyze 
+performance trends, shortcomings, and needs for further research and 
+development. Accountability could be enhanced by a requirement that 
+companies report their audit scores to their boards of directors and 
+insurance companies.
+    The industry's safety institute could facilitate a smooth 
+transition to a regulatory regime based on systems safety engineering 
+and improved coordination among operators and contractors--the 
+principles of the U.K.'s ``safety case'' that shifts responsibility for 
+maintaining safe operations at all times to the operators themselves. 
+It should drive continuous improvement in standards and practices by 
+incorporating the highest standards achieved globally.
+    The industry also needs to benchmark safety and environmental 
+practice rules against recognized global best practices. The Safety and 
+Environmental Management Program Recommended Practice 75 (API RP 75) 
+developed in 1993 by the API and incorporated by reference in the 
+Department of the Interior's new workplace safety rules, adopted in 
+October 2010, is a reasonable starting point.
+VI. Response and Containment
+    As part of its charge from President Obama, the Commission looked 
+at the effectiveness of the response to the spill. There were 
+remarkable instances of dedication and heroism by individuals involved 
+in the rescue and cleanup. Much was done well--and thanks to a 
+combination of good luck and hard work, the worst-case scenarios did 
+not all come to pass. But it is impossible to argue that the industry 
+or the government was prepared for a disaster of the magnitude of the 
+Deepwater Horizon oil spill. Twenty years after the Exxon Valdez spill 
+in Alaska, the same blunt response technologies--booms, dispersants, 
+and skimmers--were used, to limited effect. On-the-ground shortcomings 
+in the joint public-private response to an overwhelming spill like that 
+resulting from the blowout of the Macondo well are now evident, and 
+demand public and private investment. So do the weaknesses in local, 
+state, and federal coordination revealed by the emergency.
+    Neither BP nor the federal government was prepared to conduct an 
+effective response to a spill of the magnitude and complexity of the 
+Deepwater Horizon disaster. Three critical issues or gaps existed in 
+the government's response capacity: (1) the failure to plan effectively 
+for a large-scale, difficult-to-contain spill in the deepwater 
+environment; (2) the difficulty of coordinating with state and local 
+government officials to deliver an effective response; and (3) a lack 
+of information and understanding concerning the efficacy of specific 
+response measures, such as dispersants or berms. Moreover, the 
+technology available for cleaning up oil spills had improved only 
+incrementally since 1990. The technologies and methods available to cap 
+or control a failed well in the extreme conditions thousands of feet 
+below the sea were also inadequate. Although BP was able to develop new 
+source-control technologies in a compressed timeframe, and the 
+government was able to develop an effective oversight structure, the 
+containment effort would have benefitted from prior preparation and 
+contingency planning.
+Improved Oil Spill Response Planning
+    The Department of the Interior should create a rigorous, 
+transparent, and meaningful oil spill risk analysis and planning 
+process for the development and implementation of better oil spill 
+response. Several steps are needed for implementation:
+          Interior should review and revise its regulations and 
+        guidance for industry oil spill response plans. The revised 
+        process should ensure that all critical information and spill 
+        scenarios are addressed in the plans.
+          In addition to Interior, other agencies with relevant 
+        scientific and operational expertise should play a role in 
+        evaluating spill response plans to verify that operators can 
+        conduct the operations detailed in their plans. Specifically, 
+        oil spill response plans, including source-control measures, 
+        should be subject to interagency review and approval by the 
+        Coast Guard, EPA, and NOAA. Other parts of the federal 
+        government, such as Department of Energy national laboratories 
+        that possess relevant scientific expertise, could be consulted. 
+        Plans should also be made available for a public comment period 
+        prior to final approval and response plans should be made 
+        available to the public following their approval.
+          Interior should incorporate the ``worst-case 
+        scenario'' calculations from industry oil spill response plans 
+        into NEPA documents and other environmental analyses or 
+        reviews.
+Spills of National Significance
+    The Gulf oil spill presented an unprecedented challenge to the 
+response capability of both government and industry. Though the 
+National Contingency Plan permitted the government to designate the 
+spill as one of ``national significance,'' this designation did not 
+trigger any procedures other than allowing the government to name a 
+National Incident Commander.
+    EPA and the Coast Guard should establish distinct plans and 
+procedures for responding to a ``Spill of National Significance.'' 
+Specifically, EPA should amend or issue new guidance on the National 
+Contingency Plan to:
+          Increase government oversight of the responsible 
+        party, based on the National Contingency Plan's requirement 
+        that the government ``direct'' the response where a spill poses 
+        a substantial threat to public health or welfare.
+          Augment the National Response Team and Regional 
+        Response Team structures to establish additional frameworks for 
+        providing interagency scientific and policymaking expertise 
+        during a spill. Further, EPA, NOAA, and the Coast Guard should 
+        develop procedures to facilitate review and input from the 
+        scientific community--for example, by encouraging disclosure of 
+        underlying methodologies and data.
+          Create a communications protocol that accounts for 
+        participation by high-level officials who may be less familiar 
+        with the National Contingency Plan structure and create a 
+        communications center within the National Incident Command--
+        separate from the joint information center established in 
+        partnership with the responsible party--to help transmit 
+        consistent and complete information to the public.
+Strengthening State and Local Involvement
+    The response to the Deepwater Horizon disaster showed that state 
+and local elected officials had not been adequately involved in oil 
+spill contingency planning, though career responders in state 
+government had participated extensively. Unfamiliarity with, and lack 
+of trust in, the federal response manifested itself in competing state 
+structures and attempts to control response operations that undercut 
+the efficiency of the response overall.
+    EPA and the Coast Guard should bolster state and local involvement 
+in oil spill contingency planning and training and create a mechanism 
+for local involvement in spill planning and response similar to the 
+Regional Citizens' Advisory Councils mandated by the Oil Pollution Act 
+of 1990.
+    In addition, a mechanism should be created for ongoing local 
+involvement in spill planning and response in the Gulf. In the Oil 
+Pollution Act of 1990, Congress mandated citizens' councils for Prince 
+William Sound and Cook Inlet. In the Gulf, such a council should 
+broadly represent the citizens' interests in the area, such as fishing 
+and tourism, and possibly include representation from oil and gas 
+workers as ex-officio, non-voting members.
+Research and Development for Improved Response
+    The technology available for cleaning up oil spills has improved 
+only incrementally since 1990. Federal research and development 
+programs in this area are underfunded: In fact, Congress has never 
+appropriated even half the full amount authorized by the Oil Pollution 
+Act of 1990 for oil spill research and development.
+    Specifically, Congress should provide mandatory funding (i.e. 
+funding not subject to the annual appropriations process) at a level 
+equal to or greater than the amount authorized by the Oil Pollution Act 
+of 1990 to increase federal funding for oil spill response research by 
+agencies such as Interior, the Coast Guard, EPA, and NOAA. In addition, 
+Congress and the Administration should encourage private investment in 
+response technology more broadly, including through public-private 
+partnerships and a tax credit for research and development in this 
+area.
+Dispersants
+    Prior to the blowout, the federal government had not adequately 
+planned for the use of dispersants to address such a large and 
+sustained oil spill, and did not have sufficient research on the long-
+term effects of dispersants and dispersed oil to guide its decision-
+making.
+    EPA should update and periodically review its dispersant testing 
+protocols for product listing or pre-approval, and modify the pre-
+approval process to include temporal duration, spatial reach, and 
+volume of the spill. EPA should update its dispersant testing protocols 
+and require more comprehensive testing prior to listing or pre-
+approving dispersant products. The Coast Guard and EPA should modify 
+pre-approvals of dispersant use under the National Contingency Plan to 
+establish procedures for further consultation based on the temporal 
+duration, spatial reach, or volume of the spill and volume of 
+dispersants that responders are seeking to apply. EPA and NOAA should 
+conduct and encourage further research on dispersants.
+Containment
+    The most obvious, immediately consequential, and plainly 
+frustrating shortcoming of the oil spill response set in motion by the 
+events of April 20, 2010 was the simple inability--of BP, of the 
+federal government, or of any other potential intervener--to contain 
+the flow of oil from the damaged Macondo well.
+    At the time of the blowout on April 20, the U.S. government was 
+unprepared to oversee a deepwater source-control effort. Once the 
+Secretary of Energy's science team, the U.S. Geological Survey, the 
+national laboratories, and other sources of scientific expertise became 
+involved, the government was able to substantively supervise BP's 
+decision-making, forcing the company to fully consider contingencies 
+and justify its chosen path.
+    The National Response Team should develop and maintain expertise 
+within the Federal government to oversee source-control efforts. The 
+National Response Team should create an interagency group--including 
+representation from the Department of the Interior, Coast Guard, and 
+the Department of Energy and its national laboratories--to develop and 
+maintain expertise in source control, potentially through public-
+private partnerships.
+Industry's Spill Preparedness
+    Beyond attempting to close the blowout preventer stack, no proven 
+options for rapid source control in deepwater existed when the blowout 
+occurred. The Department of the Interior should require offshore 
+operators to provide detailed plans for source control as part of their 
+oil spill response plans and applications for permits to drill.
+    These plans should demonstrate that an operator's containment 
+technology is immediately deployable and effective. In applications for 
+permits to drill, the Interior should require operators to provide a 
+specific source-control analysis for each well. As with oil spill 
+response plans, source-control plans should be reviewed and approved by 
+agencies with relevant expertise, including the Interior and the Coast 
+Guard.
+Improved Capability for Accurate Flow Rate Estimates
+    Early flow rate estimates were highly variable and difficult to 
+determine accurately. However, the understated estimates of the amount 
+of oil spilling appear to have impeded planning for and analysis of 
+source-control efforts like the cofferdam and especially the top kill.
+    The National Response Team should develop and maintain expertise 
+within the federal government to obtain accurate estimates of flow rate 
+or spill volume early in a source-control effort. The National Response 
+Team should create an interagency group--including representation from 
+Interior, the Coast Guard, the national laboratories, and NOAA--to 
+develop and maintain expertise in estimating flow rates and spill 
+volumes. In addition, EPA should amend the National Contingency Plan to 
+create a protocol for the government to obtain accurate estimates of 
+flow rate or spill volume from the outset of a spill. This protocol 
+should require the responsible party to provide all data necessary to 
+estimate flow rate or spill volume.
+More Robust Well Design and Approval Process
+    Among the problems that complicated the Macondo well-containment 
+effort was a lack of reliable diagnostic tools and concerns about the 
+well's integrity. The Department of the Interior should require 
+offshore operators seeking its approval of proposed well design to 
+demonstrate that:
+          Well components, including blowout preventer stacks, 
+        are equipped with sensors or other tools to obtain accurate 
+        diagnostic information--for example, regarding pressures and 
+        the position of blowout preventer rams.
+          Wells are designed to mitigate risks to well 
+        integrity during post-blowout containment efforts.
+Industry Responsibilities for Containment and Response
+    Industry's responsibilities extend to efforts to contain any big 
+spills as quickly as possible and to mitigate the harm caused by spills 
+through effective response efforts. Both government, which must be 
+capable of taking charge of those efforts, and industry were woefully 
+unprepared to contain or respond to a deepwater well blowout like that 
+at Macondo. All parties lacked adequate contingency planning, and 
+neither had invested sufficiently in research, development, and 
+demonstration to improve containment or response technology.
+    From now on, the oil and gas industry needs to combine its 
+commitment to transform its safety culture with adequate resources for 
+containment and response. Large-scale rescue, response, and containment 
+capabilities need to be developed and demonstrated--including 
+equipment, procedures, and logistics--and enabled by extensive 
+training, including full-scale field exercises and international 
+cooperation.
+    To that end, at least two industry spill containment initiatives 
+have emerged that build on ideas and equipment that were deployed in 
+response to the Macondo blowout and spill. The nonprofit Marine Well 
+Containment Company was created in July 2010 by four of the major, 
+integrated oil and gas companies. The second spill containment 
+initiative is being coordinated by Helix Energy Solutions Group, which 
+played a role in the Macondo well containment efforts.
+    Yet neither the Marine Well Containment Company's planned 
+capabilities nor Helix's go past 10,000 feet despite the fact that 
+current drilling technology extends beyond this depth. Also it seems 
+that neither is structured to ensure the long-term ability to innovate 
+and adapt over time to the next frontiers and technologies. What 
+resources, if any, either initiative will dedicate to research and 
+development going forward is unclear.
+    The primary long-term goal of a spill containment company or 
+consortia should be to ensure that an appropriate containment system is 
+readily available to contain quickly spills in the Gulf of Mexico with 
+the best available technology. Any spill containment company or 
+consortia should ensure that it remains focused on this goal, even when 
+doing so potentially conflicts with the short-term interests of its 
+founding companies, in the case of MWCC, or the parent company, in the 
+case of Helix. An independent advisory board, with representatives from 
+industry, the federal government, state and local governments, and 
+environmental groups could help keep any spill containment initiative 
+focused on innovative, adaptive, effective spill response over the long 
+term.
+VII. Financial Responsibility
+    Oil spills cause a range of harms, including personal, economic and 
+environmental injuries, to individuals and ecosystems. The Oil 
+Pollution Act makes the party responsible for a spill liable for 
+compensating those who suffered as a result of the spill--through human 
+health and property damage, lost profits, and other personal and 
+economic injuries--and for restoring injured natural resources. The Act 
+also provides an opportunity to make claims for compensation from a 
+dedicated Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund. The Oil Pollution Act, 
+however, imposes limits on both the amount for which the responsible 
+party is liable, and the amount of compensation available through the 
+trust fund. In the case of the Deepwater Horizon spill, BP (a 
+responsible party) has placed $20 billion in escrow to compensate 
+private individuals and businesses through the independent Gulf Coast 
+Claims Facility. But if a less well capitalized company had caused the 
+spill, neither a multi-billion dollar compensation fund nor the funds 
+necessary to restore injured resources, would likely have been 
+available.
+    Liability for damages from spills from offshore facilities is 
+capped under the Oil Pollution Act at $75 million, unless it can be 
+shown that the responsible party was guilty of gross negligence or 
+willful misconduct, violated a federal safety regulation, or failed to 
+report the incident or cooperate with removal activities, in which case 
+there is no limit on damages. Claims up to $1 billion for certain 
+damages can be made to, and paid out of, the Oil Spill Liability Trust 
+Fund, which is currently supported by an 8-cent per-barrel tax on 
+domestic and imported oil.
+    The Oil Pollution Act also requires responsible parties to 
+``establish and maintain evidence of financial responsibility,'' 
+generally based on a ``worst-case discharge'' estimate. In the case of 
+offshore facilities, necessary financial responsibility ranges from $35 
+million to $150 million.
+Inadequacy of Current System
+    There are two main problems with the current liability cap and 
+financial responsibility dollar amounts. First, the relatively modest 
+liability cap and financial responsibility requirements provide little 
+incentive for oil companies to improve safety practices. Second, as 
+noted, if an oil company with more limited financial means than BP had 
+caused the Deepwater Horizon spill, that company might well have 
+declared bankruptcy long before paying fully for all damages. In the 
+case of a large spill, the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund would likely 
+not provide sufficient backup. Thus, a significant portion of the 
+injuries caused to individuals and natural resources, as well as 
+government response costs, could go uncompensated.
+    Any discussion of increasing liability caps and financial 
+responsibility requirements must balance two competing public policy 
+concerns: first, the goal of ensuring that the risk of major spills is 
+minimized, and in the event of a spill, victims are fully compensated; 
+and second, that increased caps and financial responsibility 
+requirements do not drive competent independent oil companies out of 
+the market. A realistic policy solution also requires an understanding 
+of the host of complex economic impacts that could result from 
+increases to liability caps and financial responsibility requirements.
+Options for Reform
+    As this Committee and others in Congress consider options for 
+addressing these problems, the Commission recommends that first, 
+Congress significantly increase the liability cap and financial 
+responsibility requirements for offshore facilities. To address both 
+the incentive and compensation concerns noted above, Congress should 
+significantly raise the liability cap. Financial responsibility limits 
+should also be increased, because if an oil company does not have 
+adequate resources to pay for a spill, the application of increased 
+liability has little effect. Should a company go bankrupt before fully 
+compensating for a spill, its liability is effectively capped. If, 
+however, the level of liability imposed and the level of financial 
+responsibility required are set to levels that bear some relationship 
+to potential damages, firms will have greater incentives to maximize 
+prevention and minimize potential risk of oil spills and also have the 
+financial means to ensure that victims of spills do not go 
+uncompensated.
+    Second, the Commission recommends that Congress increase the limit 
+on per-incident payouts from the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund. If 
+liability and financial responsibility limits are not set at a level 
+that will ensure payment of all damages for spills, then another source 
+of funding will be required to ensure full compensation. The federal 
+government could cover additional compensation costs, but this approach 
+requires the taxpayer to foot the bill. Therefore, Congress should 
+raise the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund per-incident limit. Raising 
+the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund's per-incident limit will require 
+the Fund to grow through an increase of the per-barrel tax on domestic 
+and imported oil production. An alternative would be to increase the 
+Trust Fund through a surcharge by mandatory provisions in drilling 
+leases triggered in the event that there are inadequate sums available 
+in the Fund.
+    Third, the Commission recommends that the Department of the 
+Interior enhance auditing and evaluation of the risk of offshore 
+drilling activities by individual participants (operator, driller, 
+other service companies). The Department of the Interior, insurance 
+underwriters, or other independent entities should evaluate and monitor 
+the risk of offshore drilling activities to promote enhanced risk 
+management in offshore operations and to discourage unqualified 
+companies from remaining in the market.
+    The Interior Department currently determines financial 
+responsibility levels based on potential worst-case discharges, as 
+required by the Oil Pollution Act. Although the agency's analysis to 
+some degree accounts for the risk associated with individual drilling 
+activities, it does not fully account for the range of factors that 
+could affect the cost of a spill, and thus the level of financial 
+responsibility that should be required. Interior should analyze a host 
+of specific, risk-related criteria when determining financial 
+responsibility limits applicable to a particular company, including, 
+but not limited to: geological and environmental considerations, the 
+applicant's experience and expertise, and applicable risk management 
+plans. This increased scrutiny would provide an additional guard 
+against unqualified companies entering the offshore drilling market.
+VIII. Spill Impacts and Gulf Restoration
+    Even before the highly visible damages caused by the spill became 
+clear, many crucial Gulf economic and ecological resources--fisheries, 
+transportation, tourism--faced long-term threats. First, more than 
+2,300 square miles of coastal wetlands--an area larger than the State 
+of Delaware--have been lost to the Gulf since the United States raised 
+the massive levees along the lower Mississippi River after the 
+devastating Great Flood of 1927. Exceptionally powerful hurricanes, 
+always a threat to the region, struck the coast in 2005 (Katrina and 
+Rita) and 2008 (Gustav and Ike), causing even more wetland loss. 
+Second, low-oxygen bottom waters were in the process of forming a 
+massive ``dead zone'' extending up to 7,700 square miles during the 
+summer of 2010. Referred to as hypoxia, this phenomenon has intensified 
+and expanded since the early 1970s as a result of nutrient pollution, 
+mainly from Midwestern agriculture. And finally, the Deepwater Horizon 
+disaster made matters worse: 11 rig workers killed in the explosion and 
+17 injured; many thousands of people exposed to contaminated waters, 
+coasts, beaches, and seafood; thousands out of work; birds and sea 
+animals killed and significant habitats damaged or destroyed. The 
+Commission's investigation made plain that existing authorities are not 
+adequate to redress these significant harms and ensure restoration of 
+the Gulf.
+Human Health Impacts
+    The National Contingency Plan overlooks the need to respond to 
+widespread concerns about human health impacts. For smaller oil spills, 
+the response effort is generally carried out by trained oil spill 
+response technicians, but given the scale of the response to the 
+Deepwater Horizon spill and the need to enlist thousands of previously 
+untrained individuals to clean the waters and coastline, many response 
+workers were not screened for pre-existing conditions. This lack of 
+basic medical information, which could have been collected if a short 
+medical questionnaire had been distributed, limits the ability to draw 
+accurate conclusions regarding long-term physical health impacts. EPA 
+should amend the National Contingency Plan to add distinct procedures 
+to address human health impacts during a Spill of National 
+Significance. Spills of this magnitude necessarily require a 
+significant clean-up effort, potentially exposing workers to toxic 
+compounds in oil and dispersants.
+Consumer Confidence
+    Images of spewing oil and oiled beaches in newspapers and on 
+television set the stage for public concern regarding the safety of 
+Gulf seafood. Additional factors contributed to the lingering 
+impression that the public could not trust government assurances that 
+the seafood was safe: the unprecedented volumes of dispersants used, 
+confusion over the flow rate and fate of the oil, frustration about the 
+government's relationship with BP in spill cleanup, and lawsuits filed 
+by fishermen contesting the government's assurance of seafood safety. 
+The economic blow to the Gulf region associated with this loss of 
+consumer confidence is sizable. BP gave Louisiana and Florida $68 
+million for seafood testing and marketing, as well as money to assess 
+impacts on tourism and fund promotional activities. As of early 
+December 2010, BP was considering a similar request from Alabama.
+    In future spills, however, there is no guarantee that a responsible 
+party will have the means or the inclination to compensate such losses. 
+Such indirect financial harms are currently not compensable under the 
+Oil Pollution Act. Nevertheless, losses in consumer confidence are real 
+and Congress, federal agencies, and responsible parties should consider 
+ways to restore consumer confidence in the aftermath of a Spill of 
+National Significance.
+    The Commission recommends that Congress, federal agencies, and 
+responsible parties take steps to restore consumer confidence in the 
+aftermath of a Spill of National Significance.
+Lack of Sustained Funding for Gulf Restoration
+    A lack of sustained and predictable funding, together with failed 
+project coordination and long-term planning, has resulted in incomplete 
+and often ineffective efforts to restore the Gulf's natural 
+environment. No funding source currently exists to support regional 
+restoration efforts. While cost estimates of Gulf restoration vary 
+widely, according to testimony before the Commission, fully restoring 
+the Gulf will require $15 billion-$20 billion, or a minimum of $500 
+million per year, over 30 years. A number of different sources 
+currently provide funding to individual states for restoration, however 
+none of these sources provides funds for Gulf-wide coastal and marine 
+restoration, and none is sufficient to support the sustained effort 
+required. Most policymakers agree that without a reliable source of 
+long-term funding, it will be impossible to achieve restoration in the 
+Gulf.
+    Several Gulf States and the federal government have filed or are 
+expected to file suit against BP and other companies involved in the 
+spill, which will likely create opportunities to direct new restoration 
+funds to the region. In some cases, congressional action will be 
+required to ensure that funds are directed to this purpose. The 
+Commission recommends that 80 percent of any Clean Water Act penalties 
+and fines be directed to Gulf restoration. Should such penalties and 
+fines not be directed to the Gulf, Congress should consider other 
+mechanisms for a dedicated funding stream not subject to annual 
+appropriations. Although such mechanisms face hurdles, the fact remains 
+that resources are needed if progress on coastal restoration is to 
+continue. Inaction is a prescription for further degradation. Should 
+CWA penalties not be redirected to Gulf restoration, Congress should 
+consider other mechanisms for a dedicated funding stream not subject to 
+annual appropriations.
+Decision-making Body for Expediting Work
+    In order for funding to be most efficiently directed at long-term 
+restoration, a decision-making body is needed that has authority to set 
+binding priorities and criteria for project funding. The Gulf Coast 
+Ecosystem Restoration Task Force is now in place, as recommended by the 
+September 2010 report on restoration from Secretary of the Navy Ray 
+Mabus to the President, and subsequently established by Presidential 
+Executive Order. According to the Executive Order, the job of the Task 
+Force is to begin coordinating the different restoration projects being 
+undertaken by various jurisdictions in the Gulf, coordinating related 
+science activities and engaging stakeholders. However, as many in 
+Congress and the Administration have suggested, the Task Force lacks 
+some features necessary to effectively direct long-term restoration 
+efforts in the Gulf--most importantly the ability to set binding goals 
+and priorities.
+    The Commission recommends that Congress establish a joint state-
+federal Gulf Coast Ecosystem Restoration Council. The Council should 
+implement a restoration strategy for the region that is compatible with 
+existing state restoration goals. Experience in major restoration 
+endeavors, including those in the Gulf, has shown that, absent binding 
+goals to drive the process, restoration projects are insufficiently 
+funded, focused, or coordinated. Therefore, the restoration strategy 
+should set short- and long-term goals with binding criteria for 
+selecting projects for funding. Key criteria should include national 
+significance; contribution to achieving ecosystem resilience; and the 
+extent to which national policies--such as those related to flood 
+control, oil and gas development, agriculture, and navigation--directly 
+contributed to the environmental problem. Congress should also ensure 
+that the priorities and decisions of the Council are informed by input 
+from a Citizens Advisory Council that represents diverse stakeholders.
+Restoration Rooted in Science
+    Finally, but essentially, restoration decisions must be rooted in 
+science. An approach that draws heavily on information and advice from 
+scientists will result in project selection and funding allocations 
+that are more likely to lead to an effective region-wide restoration 
+strategy. Such an approach will also advance transparency in decision-
+making and enhance credibility with the public.
+    The Commission accordingly recommends the establishment of a Gulf 
+Coast Ecosystem Restoration Science and Technology Program that would 
+address these issues in three ways: (1) by creating a scientific 
+research and analysis program, supported by the restoration fund, that 
+is designed to support the design of scientifically sound restoration 
+projects; (2) by creating a science panel to evaluate individual 
+projects for technical effectiveness and consistency with the 
+comprehensive strategy; and (3) by supporting adaptive management plans 
+based on monitoring of outcomes scaled both to the strategy itself and 
+to the individual projects or categories of projects included in it.
+Managing Ocean Resources
+    The Commission recommends that as a part of management and 
+restoration efforts in the marine environment, greater attention should 
+be given to new tools for managing ocean resources, including 
+monitoring systems and spatial planning. Marine scientists have emerged 
+from the Deepwater Horizon incident with more precise questions to 
+investigate, as well as a better sense of monitoring needs in the Gulf 
+of Mexico, which because of its multiple uses and economic value should 
+be a national priority. To that end, the National Ocean Council, which 
+the President initiated in July 2010, should work with the responsible 
+federal agencies, industry and the scientific community to expand the 
+Gulf of Mexico Integrated Ocean Observing System, including the 
+installation and maintenance of an in situ network of instruments 
+deployed on selected production platforms. Participation in this system 
+by industry should be regarded as a reasonable part of doing business 
+in nation's waters.
+    Coastal and marine spatial planning has the potential to improve 
+overall efficiency and reduce conflicts among ocean users. Congress 
+should fund grants for the development of regional planning bodies at 
+the amount requested by the President in the fiscal year 2011 budget 
+submitted to Congress. Ocean management should also include more 
+strategically sited Marine Protected Areas, including but not limited 
+to National Marine Sanctuaries, which can be used as ``mitigation 
+banks'' to help offset harm to the marine environment. Given the 
+economic and cultural importance of fishing in the Gulf region--and the 
+importance of Gulf seafood to the rest of the country--scientifically 
+valid measures, such as catch share programs, should be adopted to 
+prevent overfishing and ensure the continuity of robust fisheries.
+IX. The Future of Offshore Drilling
+    The central lesson to be drawn from the catastrophe is that no less 
+than an overhauling of both current industry practices and government 
+oversight is now required. The changes necessary will be transformative 
+in their depth and breadth, requiring an unbending commitment to safety 
+by government and industry to displace a culture of complacency. 
+Drilling in deepwater, however, does not have to be abandoned. It can 
+be done safely. That is one of the central messages of the Commission's 
+final report. The Commission's recommendations are intended to do for 
+the offshore oil and gas industry what new policies and practices have 
+done for other high risk industries after their disasters. The 
+Commission believes that the potential for such a transformation to 
+ensure productive, safe, and responsible offshore drilling is 
+significant, and provides reason for optimism even in the wake of a 
+disaster.
+    The significance of the Deepwater Horizon disaster, however, is 
+broader than just its relevance to the future of offshore drilling. The 
+disaster signals the need to consider the broader context of the 
+nation's patterns of energy production and use, now and in the future--
+the elements of America's energy policy. The explosion at the Macondo 
+well and the ensuing enormous spill--particularly jarring events 
+because of the belief they could never happen--force a reexamination of 
+many widely held assumptions about how to reconcile the risks and 
+benefits of offshore drilling, and a candid reassessment of the 
+nation's policies for the development of a valuable resource. They also 
+support a broader reexamination of the nation's overall energy policy.
+    Important decisions about whether, when, where, and how to engage 
+in offshore drilling should be made in the context of a national energy 
+policy that is shaped by economic, security, pace of technology, 
+safety, and environmental concerns. Offshore drilling will certainly be 
+an important part of any such policy, but its relative importance today 
+will not, and should not, be the same a half-century from now. The 
+nation must begin a transition to a cleaner, more energy-efficient 
+future. Otherwise, its security and well-being will be increasingly 
+dependent on diminishing supplies of nonrenewable resources and on 
+supplies from foreign sources.
+    Drilling for oil in the Gulf of Mexico, however, is not solely a 
+matter for U.S. consideration. Both Mexico and Cuba have expressed 
+interest in deepwater drilling in the Gulf in the near future. 
+Potential sites are close enough to the United States--Cuba's mainland 
+lies only 90 miles from Florida's coast and the contemplated wells only 
+50 miles--that if an accident like the Deepwater Horizon spill occurs, 
+fisheries, coastal tourism, and other valuable U.S. natural resources 
+could be put at great risk. It is in our country's national interest to 
+negotiate now with these neighbors to agree on a common, rigorous set 
+of standards, a system for regulatory oversight, and operator adherence 
+to an effective safety culture, along with protocols to cooperate on 
+containment and response strategies in case of a spill.
+Frontier Areas
+    Our Commission also examined prospects in so called ``frontier 
+areas.'' On December 1, in the wake of the Deepwater Horizon 
+experience, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar announced that the 
+Administration would not proceed with drilling in areas where there are 
+``no active leases'' during the next five-year leasing plan. As a 
+result, exploration and production in certain frontier areas--the 
+eastern Gulf and off of the Atlantic and Pacific coasts--are deferred. 
+The Secretary also indicated that plans for 2011 drilling in Alaska's 
+Beaufort Sea would be subjected to additional environmental 
+assessments.
+    The major interest in offshore Alaska reflects the likelihood of 
+finding significant new sources of oil there. The Chukchi and Beaufort 
+Sea off Alaska's north coast rank behind only the Gulf of Mexico in 
+estimated domestic resources. But finding and producing those 
+potentially important supplies of oil offshore Arctic Alaska requires 
+the utmost care, given the special challenges for oil spill response 
+and containment, and heightened risks associated with this frontier, 
+especially its extreme cold, extended seasons of darkness, hurricane-
+strength storms, and pervasive fog--all affecting access and working 
+conditions--and the extraordinary richness of its ecosystems and the 
+subsistence native communities dependent upon their protection. To deal 
+with these serious concerns about Arctic oil spill response, 
+containment and the heightened environmental stakes the Commission 
+recommends three approaches before the Department of the Interior makes 
+a determination that drilling in a particular area is appropriate. 
+First, the Department should ensure that the containment and response 
+plans proposed by industry are adequate for each stage of development 
+and that the underlying financial and technical capabilities have been 
+satisfactorily demonstrated in the Arctic. Second, the Coast Guard and 
+the oil companies operating in the Arctic should carefully delineate 
+their respective responsibilities in the event of an accident--
+including search and rescue--and then must build and deploy the 
+necessary capabilities. Third, Congress should provide the resources to 
+establish Coast Guard capabilities in the Arctic, based on the Guard's 
+review of gaps in its capacity.
+    The Arctic is shared by multiple countries, many of which are 
+considering or conducting oil and gas exploration and development. The 
+extreme weather conditions and infrastructure difficulties are not 
+unique to the U.S. Arctic. Damages caused by an oil spill in one part 
+of the Arctic may not be limited to the waters of the country where it 
+occurred. As a result, the Commission recommends that strong 
+international standards related to Arctic oil and gas activities be 
+established among all the countries of the Arctic. Such standards would 
+require cooperation and coordination of policies and resources.
+    Bringing the potentially large oil resources of the Arctic outer 
+continental shelf into production safely will require an especially 
+delicate balancing of economic, human, environmental, and technological 
+factors. Both industry and government will have to demonstrate 
+standards and a level of performance higher than they have ever 
+achieved before.
+    Creating and implementing a national energy policy will require 
+enormous political effort and leadership--but it would do much to 
+direct the nation toward a sounder economy and a safer and more 
+sustainable environment in the decades to come. Given Americans' 
+consumption of oil, finding and producing additional domestic supplies 
+will be required in coming years, no matter what sensible and effective 
+efforts are made to reduce demand--in response to economic, trade, and 
+security considerations, and the rising challenge of climate change.
+    The extent to which offshore drilling contributes to augmenting 
+that domestic supply depends on rebuilding public faith in existing 
+offshore energy exploration and production. We have proposed a series 
+of recommendations that will enable the country and the oil and gas 
+industry to move forward on this one critical element of U.S. energy 
+policy: continuing, safe, responsible offshore oil drilling to meet our 
+nation's energy demands over the next decade and beyond. Our message is 
+clear: both government and industry must make dramatic changes to 
+establish the high level of safety in drilling operations on the outer 
+continental shelf that the American public has the right to expect and 
+to demand. It is now incumbent upon the Congress, the executive branch, 
+and the oil and gas industry to take the necessary steps.
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+    .epsThe Chairman. Thank you very much.
+    And I thank both of you. For the record, it was not me that 
+cleared my throat that you responded to. But nevertheless, I 
+appreciate that.
+    Mr. Graham. The message was clear.
+    The Chairman. I did want both of you to finish your 
+remarks, and I allowed that, but we do want to try to stay as 
+closely as we can.
+    I just have an observation and a question that I want to 
+ask both of you. Right from the get-go, when this event 
+happened and I was asked to respond, I said something on the 
+order: Number one, we need to stop the leak; number two, we 
+need to hold BP accountable; and number three, we need to make 
+sure that the restoration can get that part of the country back 
+to normalcy, however you describe that.
+    I have been saying that right from day one. You have spent 
+a great deal of time on it in your report. Your testimony 
+talked about what should be done in the future, and I alluded 
+to this in my opening statement. I would like you both to 
+respond to it. We still don't know what caused the explosion, 
+unless I missed something, and we don't know how or why the BOP 
+malfunctioned, if that was the case. And I would like both of 
+you to respond to that, and is there maybe a time in the future 
+when you are going to answer that, or do we wait for other 
+reports to come in before we draw conclusions? Whoever wants to 
+go first. I would like both of you to respond to that.
+    Mr. Graham. Well, what we know is that the event occurred, 
+and we know a great deal about why the event occurred. We have 
+identified in our report nine instances, nine human decisions 
+that were made in the hours before the Macondo explosion, which 
+we think were the precipitating cause of this immediate event.
+    It is true that no one at this point has had the benefit of 
+the full forensic examination of the blowout preventer. It is 
+at a NASA facility in New Orleans being closely examined. But 
+what we do know is that it didn't perform as it should have. If 
+it had been able to perform at an optimal level, it is 
+questionable whether that would have avoided the explosion 
+because the gas had already gotten beyond the blowout preventer 
+at the time that it would have gone into effect.
+    So I believe that our report adequately, accurately, 
+comprehensively addresses both the immediate cause and then the 
+context in which that occurred, which was a long period in 
+which government had done a very inadequate job of regulation, 
+at which the industry had fallen into this culture of 
+complacency, and where the consequences have been an enormous 
+economic and environmental cost to the people of the United 
+States.
+    Mr. Reilly. I would just add, Mr. Chairman, we know enough. 
+We know what happened. We know that the negative pressure test, 
+which was supposed to determine whether cementing had 
+effectively sealed off the well; we know that inconsistent 
+information came from the kill line and the drill pipe. And the 
+good news was accepted that while the conflicting information 
+was rejected in the drill pipe itself, indicating that had not 
+been a seal, the cementing had failed. We know that. We know 
+that as gas did rise in the drill pipe, it was not noticed, 
+although we have the documentation of the instrumentation, the 
+record that should have been recognized by a professional 
+monitoring that instrumentation to indicate that gas was coming 
+up the riser. It was not recognized until it was too late. So 
+we know those things. Those are a couple of examples.
+    A number of decisions were made by people who are not 
+alive, and we cannot but speculate on how they came to make 
+some of those decisions or to have missed some of the 
+information that they did have.
+    And if you look at page 125 of our report, we list about 
+nine decisions, seven of which had the corollary benefit of 
+saving time. No doubt they were identified as more efficient 
+ways to proceed, but there were alternatives to most of them, 
+and they weren't chosen. So the immediate proximate cause was a 
+series of bad decisions, very hard to understand decisions on 
+the day of April 20th and leading up to it with respect to 
+Halliburton's supply of cement which failed three of its own 
+tests and nine tests that were subjected to by our Commission 
+by Chevron's laboratory for testing cement. So we do know those 
+things. And I am quite confident that we have established the 
+facts here.
+    The Chairman. Since my time is running out, I would just 
+make this observation. What you have alluded to, both of you, 
+is the fact that somewhere along the line, there is human 
+error; something wasn't read. We heard that in testimony, 
+frankly, from the industry when they were here shortly after. 
+They said, we don't know what happened, but we suspect that 
+this is going to be the case. And that you have confirmed.
+    But we still don't know what mechanically or whatever else 
+broke down, and I just wanted to thank you for responding to 
+that.
+    Mr. Markey.
+    Mr. Markey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, very much.
+    Thank you for this report. This report is a blistering, 
+scalding indictment of the practices engaged in by the industry 
+and by regulators that created the conditions that made this 
+accident possible. My question to you is if your 
+recommendations are not adopted or provisions similar to those 
+which you recommend, do you think we run the risk of repeating 
+that catastrophe once again in the waters of the United States?
+    Mr. Graham. Yes. As I said, even if all of the 
+recommendations were adopted, no one could issue an insurance 
+policy that there would be no repetition.
+    But I could issue an insurance policy that the likelihood 
+of a repetition and the consequences of the repetition will be 
+significantly less if these recommendations are adopted.
+    One of the things that characterizes these recommendations 
+is they are not from outer space. Most of them are from the 
+North Sea, a place which has a more punishing environment than 
+the Gulf of Mexico, yet has a dramatically different record in 
+terms of fatalities. We believe that some of the experience 
+there--and ironically, the same companies that are operating in 
+the Gulf are operating under those standards in the North Sea. 
+So it is not a mystery or a new set of standards for those 
+companies themselves.
+    And as I said in my report, I am concerned that if we don't 
+act, if we are timorous and if we have an enhanced likelihood 
+similar to the Macondo, that we are all going to be pointed at 
+as to why we were unable to recognize and why we were unwilling 
+to act in the public interest.
+    Mr. Markey. Do you agree, Mr. Reilly?
+    Mr. Reilly. I do agree. And I would add that this is a very 
+dynamic industry, which has transformed itself in the last 25 
+years as it has moved from shallow water into deep water, which 
+is a much more high-risk environment. It has not adapted its 
+own risk protections, its management systems adequately to 
+either prevent or to respond to a problem of this sort.
+    And I will tell you one of the things that--well, it is 
+reassuring that BOEMRE has issued new prescriptive regulations 
+to try to govern a lot of the activities that would take place 
+in the future, and that gives us some encouragement. Frankly 
+speaking, we don't consider that agency as it is now staffed, 
+formed, trained and compensated adequate to the task that they 
+have; and that if it is not strengthened, I suspect that we 
+will again see an incongruity grow between the sophistication 
+of the industry and its dynamism and the failure of inspectors 
+even to understand some of the basic technologies to stay on 
+top of it.
+    Mr. Markey. Let me follow up on that then because you have 
+recommendations here that can be implemented administratively 
+by the Obama Administration, but there are other 
+recommendations here that really need congressional action so 
+that we change the laws. Do you think it would be wise for us 
+not to act legislatively to give that authority to the 
+government so that they can change business as usual? Would we 
+be running a risk if we did not pass legislation?
+    Mr. Reilly. I think you would be running a big risk. There 
+are two crucial moves that I believe the Congress has to take. 
+One is to reorganize the Interior Department, simply to ensure 
+that leasing revenue concerns of the sort that animated the 
+agency over several administrations and three MMS Directors 
+testified to before our Commission, that those no longer infect 
+safety and environment regulation. And the way to do that is 
+statutorily, the way to do it on any kind of sustainable basis, 
+by creating a walled-off regulator within the Department of the 
+Interior with a term appointment for the Director.
+    And the second, the second requirement--and the first 
+doesn't cost anything--the second requirement is to adequately 
+fund the BOEMRE to carry out the responsibilities that it has.
+    Mr. Markey. Thank you.
+    Just to note here, BP had 760 OSHA fines--versus one for 
+ExxonMobil--so we can understand that there is something 
+fundamentally wrong here that a company like that was allowed 
+to continue to operate.
+    Senator Graham, your recommendation on legislation?
+    Mr. Graham. Well, I would agree with those two points, and 
+then the third is the one I made relative to restoration, that 
+only Congress can designate a portion of these fines and 
+penalties for the specific purpose of restoration, which we 
+think, in terms of the national interest in this region of 
+America, the fact that many of the problems that have led to 
+the degradation of the Gulf of Mexico had the Federal 
+Government at least as a partner if not the primary indicted 
+figure.
+    Mr. Markey. And can I just say very quickly, some people 
+say, well, it is just BP and that the other actors didn't play 
+a role, including the government, that the other companies 
+didn't play a role; true or not true?
+    Mr. Graham. In the area of response, it was not just BP 
+that was incapable. If this same thing had happened on 
+virtually any of the rigs in the Gulf, we would have had the 
+same response because we had the inadequate, unplanned-for 
+capabilities that made this such an unnecessarily significant 
+impact on the economy and the environment of the Gulf of 
+Mexico.
+    Mr. Markey. I thank you both for your service.
+    The Chairman. I thank the gentleman.
+    Mr. Young of Alaska.
+    Mr. Young. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the witnesses.
+    Mr. Chairman, I have reviewed the report, and I have also 
+reviewed the members of the Commission. And I have statements 
+from every one of the members of the Commission that do not 
+support offshore drilling, including the two witnesses before 
+us.
+    And that concerns me because I cannot figure out how this 
+can be a report that was supposed to look for the cause is now 
+trying to ask us to pass legislation when their basic goal is 
+against offshore development. In your statement you said you 
+were for it; you know the importance. But one gentleman said we 
+can establish 75 years as the goal for independence. To meet 
+that goal, we would have to reduce domestic production, not 
+increase it.
+    I am just questioning the Commission and the sincerity of 
+really seeking a solution to a needed commodity, which is oil.
+    Now, I personally have another question because of this 
+Administration. From either one of you, from the technical 
+perspective, what makes drilling in the deepwater Gulf of 
+Mexico so different? And are these conditions typical of the 
+other areas of the U.S. OCS? What is different between the Gulf 
+and Alaska?
+    Mr. Reilly. Well, the difference between the Gulf and 
+Alaska is the deep water that we are involved with in the Gulf, 
+5,000--we are going to 10,000 feet. Three rigs have been 
+commissioned that will take----
+    Mr. Young. That I know and I appreciate your answer. I 
+appreciate your answer.
+    But as I read your report, your position on Arctic drilling 
+with the President is, in fact, we have to step forward with 
+caution; we have to make sure it can't be done too rapidly, et 
+cetera, et cetera.
+    But it is 150 feet versus 2,000 some odd feet or, excuse 
+me, 20,000 feet, 18,000 feet. And I am worried about this 
+country. We are going to spend about $400 billion again to buy 
+our oil. And this Commission--the make up of this Commission, 
+they are all against the development of offshore drilling and 
+onshore, by the way. Some on the Commission voted against 
+opening ANWR; 39 billion barrels were 74 miles from the 
+pipeline.
+    We are facing bankruptcy because we have not been able to 
+develop our fossil fuels. And yet the Commission, the majority 
+of them, in fact all of them, their intent is not to have 
+fossil fuels. And I think that is inappropriate.
+    Now, last, if I can suggest one thing, Mr. Chairman, we 
+have drilled in the Gulf about 42,000 wells, including 2,500 
+deepwater wells. No where do you report in your report or 
+suggest why that was successful. We have had one big spill 
+since Santa Barbara. Now, how do you answer that? Was there any 
+credit given for what was done before and for those who did it? 
+Question. Answer.
+    Mr. Reilly. Well, I referred to 79 losses of well control. 
+I think many of those contributed to accidents and several 
+contributed to fatalities. That is the record that we have for 
+the Gulf, and it is not a pretty one.
+    Mr. Young. How many spills? How many spills?
+    Mr. Reilly. I don't know how many spills were associated 
+with those, but if you look at that list in the report, if they 
+weren't spills, they were near misses and close calls and 
+enough to kill people, and there were fires.
+    Mr. Young. Just like driving down the street, slipping on 
+the ice.
+    Mr. Reilly. I would like to say that again with respect to 
+ice.
+    Mr. Young. Like driving down the street, slipping on the 
+ice. There is going to be a chance. There is no fail-safe way 
+to do anything.
+    Mr. Reilly. No. And it can be done better. As Senator 
+Graham said, you cannot eliminate risk; you can reduce it 
+significantly.
+    I would point out to you, Mr. Young, that--first of all, 
+when you say what we really believe--what we really believe is 
+in this report. And it is pretty detailed, and I think we have 
+a lot of authority and documentation behind the recommendations 
+and findings that are in here. So I actually would suggest that 
+instead of interpreting comments made by Commissioners perhaps 
+in an earlier time without this mission, you look at this as a 
+definitive record of where we really stand.
+    And we are for offshore oil and gas development. We think 
+it can be done safely. And we also specifically recommend 
+against a moratorium in Alaska in the Arctic.
+    Mr. Young. And that means that you, in fact, want us to go 
+forth?
+    Mr. Reilly. Yes, sir.
+    Mr. Young. Will you express that in your report? It doesn't 
+say that.
+    Mr. Reilly. This Commission believes that we can go forward 
+to drill in the offshore the Chukchi and Beaufort Seas, but it 
+recommends a series of scientific analyses of Coast Guard 
+search-and-rescue movements, of a range of activities that will 
+have to be supplied--either by government or the industry--to 
+ensure over the long term that it will be done safely. But we 
+specifically say that should not be a barrier to moving 
+forward.
+    Mr. Young. It does say, then, you are supporting Arctic 
+drilling in the report?
+    Mr. Reilly. Yes, sir.
+    Mr. Young. I didn't read that. And if you do so, I wish you 
+would explain that to the President.
+    Mr. Reilly. You said in your remarks that we recommended it 
+be done with caution and that is certainly true. We have a 
+distinctive set of challenges that are being presented there.
+    Mr. Young. That is what happens, though. We have the 
+studies--for 40 years, we have been drilling in the Arctic, 
+just not Prudhoe Bay. We had been drilling there when we had 
+the PET-4, when we had the new line operation. We have been 
+doing the drilling, and we have done the studies. We have done 
+the work. And all of the sudden now we have that moratorium in 
+place by someone that doesn't believe in fossil fuels.
+    You heard him last night on the Floor. He doesn't believe 
+in fossil fuels. And I think it is wrong for this country. I 
+want all forms of power, but all of the sudden, we have a 
+Commission report I don't believe that really suggests we can 
+do without a big long delay. But we will send the money 
+overseas.
+    Mr. Chairman, my time is up.
+    The Chairman. Thank you very much.
+    Mr. Pallone from New Jersey.
+    Mr. Pallone. Thank you.
+    Thank you, Chairman Hastings and Ranking Member Markey, for 
+having the hearing today.
+    The report in front of us today is clear in my opinion that 
+we cannot drill safely off our shores under the current system 
+and that our coastal communities need protection from 
+untrustworthy big oil.
+    Only big oil will claim that they can drill safely and look 
+to expand drilling in the wake of our country's worst 
+environmental disaster and the finding of their systematic 
+failures.
+    Now, since the Deepwater Horizon disaster, the President 
+has reversed course and, thankfully, taken drilling in the 
+Atlantic off the table, at least for the next five years, and I 
+commend him for that action and believe we must make that 
+policy permanent. Only then can we be safe from the greed of 
+the oil industry.
+    Also, House Democrats passed the CLEAR Act to prevent 
+another catastrophic spill, and at that time, my Republican 
+colleagues opposed the legislation, saying we needed to wait 
+for this Commission's report. Now that we have it, it is time 
+to take action to prevent big oil from wreaking havoc on our 
+environment, and that is why I introduced the No New Drilling 
+Act to prevent the expansion of offshore drilling, which I 
+believe must be the policy, at least until we can be certain 
+another Deepwater Horizon incident will not happen again.
+    I represent a district along the Jersey Shore. I live along 
+the Jersey Shore, as well. I have all my life. And one of the 
+things I wanted to ask the two members of the panel is that I 
+believe very strongly that the farther you go out and the 
+deeper you are, the more dangerous it becomes. In arguing 
+against the need for reform, the oil and gas industry likes to 
+make the argument that the BP spill was like an outlier, and 
+they point to the long history of drilling in the Gulf.
+    But in reality, isn't it true that the vast majority of the 
+oil and gas industry's offshore drilling in the Gulf has been 
+in shallow water where drilling is much less complicated than 
+in the ultra-deep water where the Deepwater Horizon was 
+operating? So, basically, as we go farther out--and certainly 
+my understanding is that the Atlantic is strictly deep water, 
+not in shallow water--the danger is greater, and that is even 
+one more reason why the recommendations that you put forth are 
+crucial. I am asking either of you if you could answer that 
+question.
+    Mr. Graham. Well, the answer is clearly there is a 
+relationship between the danger and risk the deeper you go. And 
+it is also true that up until about 1990, virtually all of the 
+drilling that had ever taken place in the Gulf of Mexico was in 
+waters of less than 1,000 feet, which is the definition of 
+shallow drilling, so that the circumstances have dramatically 
+changed. And at the same time that the industry was developing 
+a technology that can, frankly, only be analogized to the 
+technology of the space program and its sophistication, there 
+was an enormous burst of the offensive capability to drill in 
+deeper areas. There was not a commensurate increase in the 
+defensive capability to respond should there be an accident and 
+to create the safety environment that would reduce the 
+prospects, not to zero but to the degree possible, that there 
+would not be accidents.
+    In the materials that have been distributed, there is a 
+chart, which is called ``MMS Budget and Gulf of Mexico Crude 
+Oil Production, 1984 to 2009.'' It is on page 73 of our report. 
+And you can see the degree to which the production in the Gulf 
+of Mexico has gone from being shallow water production now not 
+only to deep water, but the greatest increase has been in what 
+is described as ultra-deep water, where the risks are even more 
+significant.
+    Mr. Pallone. Mr. Reilly, did you want to respond?
+    Mr. Reilly. No. just to reenforce what Senator Graham said, 
+the formations are deeper in the deepwater. That is, they are 
+well under even very often--certainly in the case of Macondo--
+they were down at 18,000 feet, which is 13,000 feet below the 
+mud level. The formations are under much greater pressure, 
+something up in the range of 30,000 pounds per square inch, 
+which means all sorts of things in terms of the complexity of 
+dealing with a well situation that also involves, of course, 
+robots, which are the only way you can actually monitor and 
+maintain and improve or repair technology down at that level.
+    So, for all of these reasons, it is a much more challenging 
+enterprise. And that is why the industry in our view needs to 
+improve its capacity, recognize that they are in a different 
+era from the one that characterized shallow water drilling and 
+establish the kind of safety institute we recommend.
+    Mr. Pallone. Thank you, gentlemen.
+    The Chairman. I thank the gentleman.
+    Mr. Lamborn from Colorado.
+    Mr. Lamborn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    I want to the thank both of the distinguished witnesses for 
+being here today and giving your testimony.
+    You said earlier that you do not know why the blowout 
+preventer did not work, and I am very concerned that you didn't 
+even wait until you knew what the cause of it not working was 
+before issuing your report.
+    Why didn't you wait until we knew why that blowout 
+preventer didn't even work? Because that is a key element in 
+this whole chain of events.
+    Mr. Reilly. Yes, sir. This was clear from the start, when 
+the President created us with an executive order, he gave us a 
+timetable of 6 months. In our early conversation with him, we 
+made clear to him we didn't expect the blowout preventer to be 
+pulled out before late August, which is about I think when it 
+was taken up, and still hasn't been forensically analyzed. So 
+it was always understood that the blowout preventer would not 
+be a part of our report; we would not have access to it and not 
+be able to make any judgments about it.
+    But the failure of the blowout preventer to work is itself 
+known; as to specifically why it didn't work, that remains to 
+be seen. I think all other aspects of this spill, though, were 
+subject to our investigatory analysis, and we were able to make 
+the judgments that give us confidence that we know what 
+happened.
+    Mr. Lamborn. Thanks for that answer. I think you or the 
+President should have had the patience to know why it didn't 
+work, and your report would have been much more significant in 
+my opinion had we had that information.
+    Mr. Reilly. As commissioners, we, sir, didn't have that 
+option.
+    Mr. Lamborn. Second, in a Wall Street Journal editorial 
+from two weeks ago, it states that not a single member of your 
+Commission was a drilling engineer or an expert in oil 
+exploration technology or practices. Don't you think that the 
+Commission would have been improved had you had people with 
+that kind of expert background on your board?
+    Mr. Graham. Frankly, I think that was a relevant question 
+to ask in the summer of 2010. Today, we have submitted an 
+almost 400-page report. We would like our competence to be 
+judged on this report.
+    And if there are areas that you think demonstrate a lack of 
+capacity to make the judgments that we did, we would be pleased 
+to know what those are, and we would attempt to provide a 
+response or an admission of our naivety.
+    I would say that I believe even if you took the most 
+extreme explanation of why the blowout preventer failed to 
+function, that doesn't trump the other nine factors that we 
+have identified that were contributing causes to this.
+    So while I am curious to know what the BOP did, I don't 
+think it would change the findings or the recommendations that 
+we have made.
+    We certainly wouldn't withdraw our recommendations that the 
+oil and gas industry should adopt, as the nuclear power 
+industry has, some form of internal capability to assess 
+safety.
+    We would not change our position that we need to have an 
+effective, competent Federal agency that can oversee the 
+industry.
+    We would not change our recommendation that that agency 
+should be protected by independents within the Department of 
+the Interior.
+    Those are our key safety recommendations, and I don't think 
+there is any evidence that is going to come from the forensic 
+examination that is currently going on at a NASA facility in 
+New Orleans of the blowout preventer that would alter those 
+recommendations.
+    Mr. Lamborn. Well, I will move on to my next question here.
+    In its undertaking of the investigation of the Deepwater 
+Horizon incident, the National Academy of Engineering and the 
+National Research Council announced that they would not be 
+issuing their final report until it has been peer-reviewed, 
+which is their standard practice for reports issued by the 
+National Academies. Has your report been submitted for peer 
+review to any other kind of body or experts or--
+    Mr. Graham. It is a public document, so it is not just 
+submitted to peers, it is submitted to the American people for 
+their comment and evaluation.
+    Mr. Reilly. I would just say that it has been pretty well 
+reviewed and pretty well received and commented on by experts 
+in the field.
+    And I also want to note that we say in our formal testimony 
+that our senior technology and science advisor on this 
+enterprise was Richard Sears, who has 33 years of experience, 
+senior experience with Shell Oil, and he was present through 
+all of our deliberations on technology.
+    And I would also like to acknowledge publicly, we had 
+strong cooperation from industry, from three companies in 
+particular that spent several hours with us--Chevron, Shell, 
+and ExxonMobil--and cooperation, obviously, from the 
+Departments of the government, from BOEMRE and Director 
+Bromwich, and Secretary Salazar.
+    So I think we had a full range of input and plenty of 
+opportunity on the part also of the scientific agencies, NOAA, 
+the Coast Guard, to ensure that what we say is grounded in good 
+science and respectable technology.
+    And I must say we have become a little impatient, Bob and 
+I, with the criticisms of our competence, or the credentials of 
+our Commissioners, which maybe was OK to raise 6 months ago, 
+but the proof is here. If there is something wrong or if there 
+are people who have objections to the findings or think they 
+are wrong or to the recommendations, we would be very happy to 
+debate on that point.
+    But it seems to me now a little churlish to refer back to 
+the credentials without saying in some way how they are 
+connected to the inadequacies in the report, which nobody seems 
+to be doing.
+    Mr. Lamborn. Thank you.
+    The Chairman. Thank you.
+    Mr. Grijalva from Arizona.
+    Mr. Grijalva. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    Gentlemen, if the current offshore policy is based on some 
+similar assumptions, as I understand it, one was the blowout 
+preventers actually worked. That was an assumption. The 
+assumption was that the industry had the ability to contain 
+spills. The assumptions were that spills offshore won't ever 
+hit onshore. There was an assumption based that rigs are 
+operated as safely as possible.
+    And I read through your report that brought into question 
+those assumptions. So, as a result, just for both of you 
+gentlemen, don't we have to rewrite our offshore policy based 
+on the fact that we don't have assumptions we can make right 
+now? Senator?
+    Mr. Graham. Well, I think some of the assumptions are that 
+drilling in the offshore is going to be a continuing and 
+increasing part of America's energy supply; number two, that 
+its acceptability to the American people will be closely 
+aligned with its safety.
+    You may recall that when Three Mile Island blew, almost 25 
+percent of America's electricity was coming from nuclear power, 
+and there was an expectation that that percentage was going to 
+grow, maybe even to where France is, which is over 70 percent. 
+But that one incident so chilled the public toward nuclear 
+power, that we have had effectively a 30-year hiatus of any 
+expansion. And therefore, the percentage of electricity from 
+nuclear power is dramatically less than it was 30 years ago.
+    Now, whether the continued activities in the Gulf, more 
+Macondos, could have the same effect as Three Mile Island, as a 
+singular event had on the nuclear power industry, we can all 
+speculate. But I think it is in everybody's interest that we 
+conduct this industry to the highest standards.
+    Would anyone answer the question, why should drilling for 
+offshore oil in the Gulf of Mexico be at a lower standard of 
+safety and environmental protection than it is in the North 
+Sea? If there is some explanation as a matter of public policy, 
+why we should accept a lower standard, then I think we could 
+have a very good debate. No one has come forward making that 
+assertion.
+    Mr. Grijalva. The other point I think you called the 
+liability cap arbitrary in the report. The question is, lifting 
+the cap entirely as a means to assure that the taxpayer doesn't 
+get stuck with any bill beyond the cap; and two, as incentive 
+to meet the highest standards that the Senator just mentioned 
+for drilling, any reactions to no cap at all on liability?
+    Mr. Graham. We have recommended that the cap be lifted. We 
+did not go beyond that. Clearly the $75 million cap, which is 
+now 21-years old, just this year the change in the value of 
+money as a result of inflation over 21 years would cause you to 
+believe that 75 million was not adequate. Second, as Bill 
+pointed out, when that cap was established, virtually all of 
+our offshore drilling was in known, comparatively safe, low-
+pressure areas. And today the largest share of our drilling is 
+in much riskier, deeper water.
+    Now, I am now going beyond what the Commission recommended 
+and just saying my own feeling is that if we have liability 
+caps, the rationale is to maintain a competitive marketplace in 
+the Gulf of Mexico, that we don't want only the largest oil 
+companies in the world to be able to drill, but we also don't 
+want to have financially incapable companies causing enormous 
+consequences.
+    So that would lead me to feel that the Congress might be 
+able to fashion a policy built around liability limits in 
+relationship to risk. It is one thing to have a liability limit 
+for 100 feet of water than 18,000 feet of water. Today, the law 
+applies the same standard to both of those two cases.
+    Mr. Reilly. I would just add if I might, Congressman, that 
+the establishment of some kind of liability cap that both 
+ensures a continuing capacity of independence to operate in the 
+Gulf, that doesn't just restrict to leasing or bidding to a few 
+majors, but also protects the public against being handed a 
+bill for major damages caused is something that is going to 
+take more time than we had in the 6 months and probably more 
+involvement of the insurance industry, since I assume an 
+insurance consortium of some sort would be necessary to address 
+this.
+    I also would note that the liability cap in Canada is $35 
+million. I think it is 50 million pounds in Britain. And it 
+does strike me, too, that particularly with respect to those 
+resources, such as the Gulf and the Arctic, where other 
+countries' activities are also involved, there might be some 
+merit in trying to work out a uniform system of liability which 
+applies systematically to all oil and gas development in these 
+areas.
+    Mr. Grijalva. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    The Chairman. Mr. Fleming from Louisiana.
+    Dr. Fleming. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    And thank you, panel members, for being here today and your 
+service. This was, no question about it, a disaster. And like 
+any disaster, even though we don't know the precise cause of 
+the blowout, we do know some things happened that are typical 
+of disasters.
+    Because this is a high-risk operation, much like many other 
+things we do, travel in space, flying in airplanes, rarely is 
+one thing the cause of the disaster. It is usually a number of 
+different situations and occurrences and bad decisions that 
+align themselves which probably over time have occurred, but 
+because of some backup or redundancy, the disaster was 
+prevented. And that can sometimes be a bad thing because what 
+happens is we become, in your words complacent. If I make a 
+mistake, there is a backup system that will solve that problem 
+for me. And obviously that is something that on the industry 
+side and on the government side we need to bear in mind going 
+forward.
+    But it was a disaster to Louisiana, my home State, in two 
+ways: One, to our ecology, no question about it; but maybe even 
+worse and longer term in jobs. Louisiana has now lost tens of 
+thousands of jobs. Because these rigs are so expensive, they 
+have left our shores in some cases, and more will come, to go 
+to Brazil and Africa and other places.
+    And you know what is interesting is that they are going to 
+other parts of the world that have less standards than we do. 
+So I think that is a real issue we need to look at.
+    Now, the President lifted the moratorium, and I have been 
+researching this. I cannot find one single permit for deepwater 
+drilling that has been issued since the lifting of the 
+moratorium, and we don't know when they ever will.
+    So what I am concerned about and I would like to have your 
+reaction to this, I see recommendations for more legislation, 
+but I think we need to be careful about just moving the chairs 
+on the deck. For one thing, we are asking NOAA to sign off on 
+things, and that is a good thing. But is that going to make the 
+permit process even slower and more difficult?
+    So I would love to have the reaction from both you 
+gentlemen. Is this really going to get us where we need to be, 
+and how is this going to affect the jobs, which are so 
+desperately needed, and, finally, the price of gasoline and oil 
+that is going up because of the loss in supply?
+    Mr. Reilly. I would say two things. I would agree with you 
+completely to the degree that we restrict our own domestic 
+production, we are essentially, given our demand on supply, 
+intending to get more oil and gas from risky places, like the 
+Niger Delta or Venezuela. That is a given. And I think we have 
+to take an international perspective on the whole issue and 
+also recognize that the environment in those places counts, 
+too, and it has been very badly abused, particularly in the 
+Niger Delta; some 2,500 accidents over the last 10 years. That 
+is a perfectly fair point, and I think it is one that ought to 
+underlie our approach to many of these questions.
+    With respect to the moratorium itself, Senator Graham and I 
+were pretty specific early on. We did not understand it, 
+thought that it was excessive and considered that a more 
+selective approach that did not penalize those companies with 
+good records, particularly after they had once been inspected, 
+as they all were in the weeks following the Macondo disaster. 
+Once those few infractions that were found were corrected for, 
+it struck us that it would have been reasonable to resume 
+drilling at that time. But that has not happened.
+    I would say that going forward, to the degree that we 
+continue to under-staff, under-prepare, under-reform, and 
+under-finance the regulatory agency, we probably are going to 
+find that it is more reluctant to issue permits, less confident 
+about signing a name to a permit, and less able to get us back 
+into business.
+    Mr. Fleming. Senator, do you have a response?
+    Mr. Graham. I would just add that what Bill said at the end 
+happens to be the position of the major petroleum companies in 
+Great Britain, that they actually affirmatively support a 
+strong, well-financed, competent regulator as a key part of 
+their ability to do their business. I believe they are right, 
+and I hope that we will come to the same conclusion as to the 
+industry here in the United States.
+    Mr. Fleming. Can I get a commitment from you gentlemen--and 
+Mr. Reilly has already suggested that the President not only 
+lift the official moratorium, but actually allow permits--
+should we do away with what we have now, which is a de facto 
+moratorium? Would you both agree that the President should move 
+forward and begin to allow the issuance of permits?
+    Mr. Graham. As I understand it, there is a news story today 
+that states the reason--or at least a primary reason for the 
+delay in issuing permits for those rigs that have met the 
+individual standards, rig by rig--is that the industry has not 
+demonstrated that it has the capability to respond and contain 
+such an event or, if it does, those standards have not yet been 
+incorporated in the permit applications.
+    If that is the case, that actually, in my judgment, is a 
+positive signal that we are now down to essentially one issue. 
+And there also is some indication that the ability to meet that 
+standard of adequate response and containment is near an end.
+    The Chairman. I thank the gentleman. Mr. Boren of Oklahoma.
+    Mr. Boren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank the 
+members of the Commission for being here today and for your 
+work. Thank you, Mr. Reilly, Senator Graham. It was mentioned 
+earlier that there was some question about the qualifications 
+of the Commission. I want to say that I have a high regard for 
+the members of the Commission. Senator Graham--Chairman Graham 
+of the Intelligence Committee, you and my father were chair of 
+the Intelligence Committee about the same time, and we have a 
+warm regard for you and your work. So I want to thank you for 
+your service. I want to touch on a couple of things that were, 
+you know, in this book that we have here before us. I think a 
+vast majority of the recommendations--actually, a lot of the 
+industry would say that they don't really have a problem with. 
+You know, you are listening to someone who is a big supporter 
+of the oil and gas industry coming from Oklahoma.
+    But some of the verbiage, sometimes even just the words, 
+just to pick out of the report, I kind of have some concerns 
+about. One was the use of the term ``systemic,'' that there are 
+these systemic problems in the industry. And if you look at the 
+30-year history, you know, over the last 30 years, the history 
+of offshore oil and gas production, there have been some 
+incidents but I think a major incident is very rare. And if you 
+compare it with, you know, the airline industry or the commuter 
+train industry or any other industry, the oil and gas industry 
+has done quite a good job. The last few years, we have seen 
+documentaries like ``Gasland'' on hydraulic fracturing. A lot 
+of this that is out there is driven by a motion. It really 
+isn't driven by facts or science. And so I am really concerned. 
+The rhetoric, even the State of the Union last night, about, 
+oh, these oil and gas companies are making all this money. 
+Let's throw some more taxes on them. There are a lot of good 
+quality jobs that are created in States like Oklahoma, 
+Louisiana, all across this country, and they want to do the 
+right thing. They want to do the right thing for the 
+environment, as do most Americans.
+    I do have one question about the CLEAR Act legislation that 
+was brought out earlier about the cap on liability. And I have 
+a lot of independent oil and gas producers in Oklahoma that 
+have this question. We have been talking quite a bit about 
+this. But given such liability requirements, did your staff or 
+the Commission ask the insurance industry if any independent 
+operators would be able to obtain an insurance policy under 
+such guidelines or circumstances? And the reason why I ask that 
+question is, I am worried--and you kind of touched on this 
+earlier with Mr. Grijalva. If we only have one or two 
+companies, U.S. companies that do the drilling, we are going to 
+have the Chinese be the only folks that can drill these wells. 
+I would like to see--I am not talking about a mom and pop 
+company.
+    I am talking about, you know, Devon Energy is a huge 
+company in Oklahoma, but it is not as large as some of the big 
+majors. These are thousands of employees. They are very well 
+capitalized. These are types of companies that could do this 
+drilling without any problem. Are you all worried about that? 
+And did you talk to the insurance industry about whether or not 
+these smaller companies could, in fact, do this?
+    Mr. Reilly. We are worried about it, and it is why we did 
+not select a number with respect to an increase. We said it 
+should be increased but we didn't say how much. And we knew 
+that it would require insurance company consultation and advice 
+and help and didn't, frankly, have time to get it. So we did 
+not meet with the insurance industry on the liability cap. But 
+for all the reasons you mention, and our own sense that it is a 
+valued contribution that independent operators make to the 
+economy, to the culture, to the industry in the Gulf, we did 
+not want to make an irresponsible choice without adequate 
+information that might, in any way, inhibit their activities, 
+or possibly even cause them to move to other jurisdictions 
+where their liability cap is lower even than it is in the 
+United States.
+    Mr. Boren. Senator, do you have the same opinion?
+    Mr. Graham. I would agree with that statement. We tried to 
+operate within our areas of confidence. So the specific 
+recommendations we made, we are prepared to defend them. Where 
+an issue was outside of what we thought was our regional 
+component, such as the role of insurance companies in 
+determining the liability cap and how the role of insurance 
+companies might be a means of giving some assurance that we 
+would not be limited to just a handful of companies. We didn't 
+feel competent to comment on that. We did feel that on its 
+face, the $75 million liability cap across the board for 
+activities that are as divergently risky as shallow and ultra-
+deep water needed to be lifted and re-examined.
+    We also were aware that the Congress is going to make that 
+ultimate decision, and we did not feel that we had anything 
+additional to add to your consideration of that.
+    Mr. Reilly. Mr. Boren, if I could add, I knew your dad too. 
+I served in the EL Corporation with him for 6 years. And I know 
+your district some. I serve on the board of an oil company who, 
+half of which used to be based, headquartered in Bartlesville. 
+And the senior executives there--
+    Mr. Boren. ConocoPhillips?
+    Mr. Reilly. Yes, sir.
+    Mr. Boren. OK. Great.
+    Mr. Reilly. --are stung by the use of the term 
+``systemic,'' and yet are perfectly willing to acknowledge they 
+didn't see this coming and weren't prepared for it, didn't 
+think it could happen, and had a response plan which the 
+Chairman acknowledged was embarrassing to him because it had 
+the same characteristics as the other response plans.
+    So I would just say, we do not by any means intend to 
+disparage the safety or environmental standards of some of our 
+leading iconic oil and gas companies, whether the majors or the 
+independents. But the facts, I think, speak for themselves with 
+respect to this particular disaster. And they led us to report 
+all we did.
+    The Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. McClintock, 
+California.
+    Mr. McClintock. Gentlemen, thank you for being here today. 
+When the Challenger exploded, we knew only one thing for sure 
+after the accident. We knew that the launch vehicle had failed 
+catastrophically. The Rogers Commission was impaneled. It was 
+filled with technical experts. It painstakingly recovered the 
+wreckage from underneath the ocean. It reassembled that 
+wreckage. It then determined the precise cause of the disaster, 
+and it then recommended changes so that the space program could 
+move forward.
+    The one thing we know for sure in this disaster was that 
+the blowout preventer failed. Let me ask you quite directly, 
+did you determine why the blowout preventer failed?
+    Mr. Graham. The answer is ``no'' for the reasons that we 
+have given.
+    Mr. McClintock. Did you look?
+    Mr. Graham. Can I finish answering the question?
+    Mr. McClintock. It is a yes-or-no question. It is my time, 
+Senator. It is limited. So please. Did you even look at the 
+blowout preventer?
+    Mr. Graham. No.
+    Mr. Reilly. Most of the time we were at work, we would have 
+taken a robot to go down and get us there.
+    Mr. McClintock. Well, let me read you The Wall Street 
+Journal that took you apart for ideological bias, for a lack of 
+expertise, credibility, lack of thoroughness. And this is what 
+they said, Unable to name what definitely caused the well 
+failure, the Commission resorts to a hodgepodge of speculation. 
+Adding to the confusion, it acknowledges it could find no 
+evidence that BP or its contractors consciously chose a riskier 
+alternative. And so forth.
+    The Commission didn't even wait to get an autopsy of the 
+failed blowout preventer--and again, this is coming directly 
+from The Wall Street Journal--which is rusting on a Louisiana 
+dock. Why should we take your report seriously if you have not 
+even made that modicum of effort to determine the actual cause 
+of the disaster?
+    Mr. Graham. Well, as Mr. Reilly said to an earlier 
+question, we had a Presidential 6-month charter. We knew early 
+on that that charter was going to run out before the forensic 
+examination of the--
+    Mr. McClintock. Did you ask for an extension of your 
+deadline?
+    Mr. Graham. We did not.
+    Mr. McClintock. So you just participated in a rush to 
+judgment without even looking at the cause of the failure that 
+created this entire disaster?
+    Mr. Graham. Well, I would just direct your attention to 
+page 125 of our report which lists the nine steps that we 
+assessed that contributed and cascaded.
+    Mr. McClintock. I understand that. But that would be like 
+the Rogers Commission issuing its report without looking at any 
+of the wreckage--
+    Mr. Reilly. Congress, the cementing failed. The cement job 
+failed to contain the well free from hydrocarbons. We said 
+that. Is that not enough?
+    Mr. McClintock. Let me get to the question of ideological 
+bias because this is also an indictment in The Wall Street 
+Journal editorial. They said, The conclusions in your report 
+were, ``all too predictable given the political history of 
+Commission members. Former Democratic Senator Bob Graham fought 
+drilling off Florida. William Reilly is the former head of the 
+anti-drilling World Wildlife Fund, and Frances Beinecke ran the 
+Natural Resources Defense Council, which is opposed to carbon 
+fuels. Not a single member was a drilling engineer or expert in 
+oil exploration technology or practices.'' Why should we take 
+you seriously?
+    Mr. Reilly. Congressman, I would just say the use of the 
+word ``predictable'' is surprising to me because what was 
+predictable in the view of The Wall Street Journal when they 
+wrote their first critical editorial was that we would 
+recommend against future offshore oil and gas development, 
+which we very definitively did not.
+    Mr. McClintock. You are recommending a whole new level of 
+bureaucracy on top of an obviously already failed bureaucracy 
+with the obvious aim of indefinitely delaying of the production 
+of our Nation's energy reserves. What is the economic damage 
+caused by this disaster? Do we have a figure on that yet?
+    Mr. Reilly. We know it is in the tens of billions.
+    Mr. McClintock. I have an estimate here of a worst-case and 
+base-case analysis of the economic damage caused by the 
+moratorium, and it runs from $279 billion all the way up to 
+$341 billion.
+    Mr. Reilly. Billion?
+    Mr. McClintock. Billion, I believe.
+    Mr. Reilly. I haven't seen those numbers before, sir.
+    Mr. Graham. Could we have an opportunity to evaluate those 
+numbers?
+    Mr. McClintock. Absolutely. Absolutely.
+    Mr. Reilly. I would only say, with respect to the 
+bureaucracy question, I made clear in my opening statement, I 
+think that--and certainly the report goes into detail on this--
+that the reorganization of the Interior Department should be 
+cost-free. We do want to segregate the leasing, the revenue 
+generating, and managing functions from the environment and 
+safety regulation. That is a matter of straightforward 
+reorganization.
+    Second, the degree to which we add anything is intended to 
+provide more capability, more expertise, more professionalism 
+in an agency that then I would fully expect, based on my own 
+history at the Environmental Protection Agency, of facilitating 
+more confident permitting and a better regulatory oversight of 
+the industry. I don't think that it would work to delay. I 
+think it would work to improve and create more efficiency in 
+the relationship between the regulator and the industry.
+    The Chairman. Mr. Lujan from New Mexico.
+    Mr. Lujn. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. And I know 
+this important hearing is going to outlie the recommendations 
+to prevent another Deepwater Horizon disaster from happening 
+again, which is why I think we are here. It is not to debate 
+whether one supports or opposes offshore drilling. It is to 
+make sure that we don't let this happen again, and that we all 
+understand the roles that we have to play to get there.
+    And I want to thank the Commission for the work that they 
+did because this was a tough job, and you have a tough set of 
+circumstances with many critics. Many of us being those critics 
+as well. And I hope that we truly listen closely to your 
+recommendations and that we see what we can do to find common 
+ground to be able to get to that point.
+    By the time this Committee had convened last year to hear 
+testimony from BP executives, it had already become clear what 
+led to the Deepwater Horizon explosion was the culmination of 
+systemic failures. It was the failure of companies who 
+knowingly refused to implement the necessary safeguards to 
+prevent this disaster, and it was a failure of governmental 
+policies and regulators that did not apply the proper oversight 
+to minimize the risk of the disaster. BP has shown itself to be 
+negligent in safety violations and environmental protections.
+    We should not forget what happened in 2005 with the 
+explosion in Texas and the lives that were lost, 15 people. 
+200,000 gallons of crude oil and a pipeline that ruptured in 
+northern Alaska. These are real incidents.
+    But what is most significant about the Commission's report 
+is that it reveals the culture of undermining safety standards. 
+It is not just an issue for BP, but an epidemic failure facing 
+the entire offshore drilling industry. Quoting directly from 
+the report, ``The blowout was not the product of decisions made 
+by a rogue industry or government officials. Rather, the root 
+causes are systemic, and absent significant reform in both 
+industry practices and government policies, might well recur.
+    The Bipartisan Commissions report only confirms that 
+Congress must take action, do our part to prevent the disasters 
+like this from happening again. During the 111th Congress, this 
+Committee put in a lot of work to develop safeguards that would 
+modernize safety and environmental protections for Federal 
+offshore leasing programs in the CLEAR Act. Many expressed an 
+interest to see the report before we moved forward.
+    We now have that report. And as we hear from witnesses of 
+the Bipartisan Commission today, we have to ask ourselves, What 
+are we going to do? What is our role as Congress to make sure 
+this never happens again? Are we going to sit back and allow a 
+failed system to continue? We cannot turn a blind eye on this 
+issue. The Commission's report clearly outlines that Congress 
+needs to act quickly to protect the safety of people, the 
+welfare and livelihoods of communities, and the habitat of 
+fragile wildlife.
+    Only 7 months ago, we saw the horrific images of the 
+explosion that killed workers, the plumes of oil that 
+devastated marine life, local seafood industries, vulnerable 
+wetlands, and the waters of the Gulf. Over 205 million gallons 
+of oil were spilled in the Gulf because of the Deepwater 
+Horizon spill. Let us never forget the people who were impacted 
+and the families who lost so many of their loved ones.
+    It is in everyone's best interest, including industry, to 
+not let this happen again, and to truly understand the 
+responsibility that we all have to do our part to prevent that.
+    The first question I have is a yes-or-no question. We also 
+learned during the spill how woefully under-prepared the 
+Federal Government was to estimate the actual flow rate of oil 
+spewing from the well. In fact, the Federal response was 
+initially entirely dependent on misleading flow rate estimates 
+provided by BP, which had every reason to low-ball them because 
+we knew that the liability was tied to the calculations on a 
+per-barrel basis.
+    The legislation Democrats introduced today creates a 
+permanent scientific group which includes scientists from the 
+National Laboratories in the Department of Energy that will 
+maintain expertise needed to estimate flow rates. Is this 
+consistent with your recommendation?
+    Mr. Reilly. It is consistent. Yes, it is. We determined 
+that one consequence of the structure of our laws is that the 
+responsible party takes the lead in overseeing response, and we 
+want to keep liability fixed there. But one part of it which 
+government should have independent capability to carry out is 
+determination of the flow rate and the USGS Director, Marcia 
+McNutt, has now said that will not be an issue next time.
+    Mr. Lujn. And one last question, Mr. Chairman, to get on 
+the record and we can get this answered later is, the report 
+reveals that the cause of the spill was corporate 
+mismanagement, inadequate government regulation, and a lack of 
+political will to ensure proper oversight of the offshore oil 
+industry as they pushed offshore drilling into deeper waters. 
+You describe in the report that this problem is pervasive 
+across the entire offshore drilling industry. So my question 
+is: What will be the consequences if reforms fail to be 
+prioritized, including the passage of proper legislation to 
+minimize the chances of a disaster like this from ever 
+happening again.
+    And Mr. Chairman, I know we are going to run out of time. I 
+want to be respectful of the other members. So we could ask the 
+witnesses, Senator, to maybe send those back to us because I 
+think that there is a very thoughtful answer that we need as a 
+part of that. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield 
+back.
+    The Chairman. I thank the gentleman. Mr. Fleischmann of 
+Tennessee.
+    Mr. Fleischmann. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
+you for being here today. It is a privilege. In addition to 
+serving on this distinguished Committee, I also serve on the 
+Small Business Committee. And my first question to you all in 
+this group is in this regard.
+    Gentlemen, what would you all say to the owners of the 
+small businesses in this region struggling to survive until 
+operations are restored in the Gulf? These people have lost 
+most of their revenue streams, if not all of their revenue 
+streams. They have made extraordinary personal and professional 
+sacrifices to retain their employees and to preserve their 
+businesses. But they cannot hold on indefinitely. I would like 
+you all to address that, please.
+    Mr. Graham. Well, of course, what you just described 
+describes a number of the industries that are dependent on the 
+Gulf. There were thousands of fishermen who lost their ability 
+to acquire their income and there was a degradation of the 
+brand of Gulf seafood, a 20 percent to 30 percent drop almost 
+overnight in the consumption of Gulf seafood which has not yet 
+been overcome. We make some specific recommendations on that 
+subject. The tourism industry, which depends upon people's 
+feeling that they are going to go to a place that is clean and 
+healthy and enjoyable.
+    It also suffered tremendous damage. So the consequences of 
+an event like this have rippling effects. Mr. Reilly has 
+described the fact that we believe that there needs to be a 
+safe industry, that there can be a safe industry but that there 
+needs to be an offshore oil industry in order to meet the 
+energy requirements of the United States. And we sympathize 
+with all the small business, whether they be fishermen, 
+restaurant owners, or suppliers to the oil and gas industry. 
+And we hope that we can get back in business as rapidly as 
+possible with the safety measures that will protect all of 
+those interests.
+    Mr. Fleischmann. Thank you. Mr. Reilly.
+    Mr. Reilly. Congressman, I don't know if you have had this 
+experience. But I ordered some oysters in New York some time in 
+September, I think, and asked whether they were from the Gulf, 
+and was reassured very confidently by the waitress, no, we 
+would not serve any seafood from the Gulf. That problem 
+persisted through the fall. I understand it has not entirely 
+disappeared now. People continue, the seafood processors, the 
+fishermen to suffer because of that. I remember talking to the 
+Governor just around Memorial Day, the Governor of Mississippi, 
+who told me that there wasn't any oil within 60 miles of the 
+beaches of Mississippi but there was 30 percent occupancy in 
+what is usually the most important vacation tourism weekend of 
+the year in Mississippi. Those stories and the Europeans 
+canceling trips to Key West where the oil never approached are 
+very poignant stories. The Vietnamese fishermen I think 
+impressed me more than those of any other in my experience when 
+I was in the Gulf. And we had hearings. Our first hearing was 
+in New Orleans. We became very familiar with the problems you 
+describe, and they are as serious as you say.
+    Mr. Fleischmann. Thank you, gentlemen. I have a follow-up 
+question. In a lot of the additional fees and proposed taxes on 
+industry, what would the total government take-away be, 
+including royalties, severance taxes, property taxes, income 
+taxes, lease bonuses, and the proposed additional fees and 
+taxes mentioned in the report?
+    Mr. Reilly. I don't think we have costed those numbers in 
+total. The only thing I would say is that it is really 
+important to keep in perspective the amount of revenues the 
+government takes in from offshore oil and gas development, 
+anywhere from $6 billion to $8 billion in one year up to, I 
+think, $18 billion in 2008. It is the second largest revenue 
+generator after the IRS, and we can afford to spend some very 
+small proportion of that which would be in dollar numbers 
+reasonably significant, ensuring that it is better done and 
+that it has been done by the government.
+    Mr. Graham. According to the chart which appears on page 73 
+of our report, in the year 1984, the budget of the MMS was 
+approximately $250 million. And in the year 2009, it was 
+something south of 200. At the same time, the industry, as the 
+same chart displays, has moved from being a relatively well-
+known shallow water industry to increasingly a deepwater, high-
+risk industry. You would have thought that the lines of cost of 
+effective regulation would have coincided with the increased 
+risk. So I can't tell you exactly what the number is, but it 
+would be hard to justify what appears to be about a $60 million 
+to $70 million a year reduction in the capability of the 
+regulatory agencies at the time the industry is going into more 
+risky areas.
+    Mr. Fleischmann. Thank you, Senator.
+    The Chairman. Dr. Christensen.
+    Mrs. Christensen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I want to 
+thank our panelists for being here. I too want to commend you 
+and the broad array of contributors to this very comprehensive 
+report. And among the many areas of concern, I too have to say 
+that I could never understand why the U.S. permitting standards 
+were lower than other countries and specifically lower than the 
+U.K., if I remember correctly, where BP is actually based.
+    Ours should be the highest in the world. And I also want to 
+support, before I get to my question, Senator Graham's response 
+on the moratorium. Because according to my reports, the 
+Department of the Interior, since June of last year, has 
+approved 28 permits to drill offshore in shallow water of 500 
+feet or less, and there are only four or five shallow water 
+permits currently pending. On deepwater drilling, the 
+moratorium was lifted on October 12, and gas operators have to 
+comply with new regulations to show that they have a strategy 
+in place to actually contain a bailout. According to the 
+Interior Department, thus far, no one has been able to 
+demonstrate that actually, although I know that they are 
+working on it, and that is the holdup--not the Department, but 
+the fact that the companies are not able to respond adequately 
+at this time. The good news though is that according to the 
+Department, some companies are getting close, as you said, to 
+being able to demonstrate that ability, and I do share the 
+majority's hope that this can happen as quickly as possible.
+    My first question, if I can get to it, I wanted to follow 
+up on Mr. Boren's question. In saying that a systemic failure 
+occurred, did you mean systemic in this case, of the three 
+companies in their management of the Deepwater Horizon drilling 
+and MMS? Or did you mean to apply it to the entire industry and 
+say that the entire industry has been complacent? So I just 
+want to understand what you meant by systemic?
+    Mr. Graham. Well, we did not mean parity, that is that all 
+companies were equally subjected to this culture of 
+complacency. In fact, there are some companies that have a very 
+strong record. What we meant to say was that there was evidence 
+that the industry had not responded to the recognition that 
+there were some outlier companies that needed to be sanctioned. 
+You are a medical physician. If there were a physician in the 
+U.S. Virgin Islands who was known by the other physicians to be 
+performing at a rate that put people's lives at risk, I would 
+assume it would be your professional responsibility to bring 
+that to the attention of someone in authority. Well, we do not 
+feel that the industry carried out its obligation for self-
+policing and, thus, in part, the recommendation for the INPO-
+type organization.
+    Second, the example of response. Response is an industry-
+wide obligation. We don't expect every company to have all the 
+equipment that is necessary to respond, but we expect the 
+industry at large to have the capacity to respond, and it was 
+clear that not only was there not that capacity, but that there 
+had been relatively little investment in the technology or 
+research and development, the understanding of the environment 
+that would have put them in a position to have produced a 
+response.
+    Mr. Reilly. I will just comment on your point about the 
+U.K. experience. We have discovered--and, of course, in our 
+research that companies and industries get serious about 
+reforming practices and improving them when they have their 
+catastrophe. The U.K. had a very serious catastrophe. It cost 
+187 lives in 1989, Piper Alpha. Our chief counsel was 
+intimately involved in investigating that accident. It was 
+after that that the regulator separated revenues from 
+regulation, just as we are proposing here. And it was after 
+that that they developed a different mode of regulation which 
+is known as the Safety Case where the particular risks that are 
+likely to be entailed in a particular well situation--that is, 
+with acknowledgement of the formation, the depth, the pressures 
+and all the rest, be explained by the company and the way in 
+which the company proposes to address those risks, he made 
+clear to the regulator. That is their system now.
+    Norway has a similar system and they came to it after their 
+catastrophe. Australia today, dealing with a blowout that 
+occurred last year, has had a commission of inquiry, and they 
+are reforming their own practices.
+    Mrs. Christensen. Are you seeing that happening now?
+    Mr. Reilly. We know that the industry is very seriously 
+examining the possibility and the practical challenges to 
+creating the safety institute of the sort we recommend. We very 
+much look forward to having the results of those inquiries, and 
+we very much hope that they will do something along the lines 
+that we have recommended. We think that it is very possible 
+that they will. We certainly know that several CEOs of major 
+companies take it seriously.
+    Mrs. Christensen. Thank you.
+    The Chairman. I thank the gentlelady. Mr. Coffman of 
+Colorado.
+    Mr. Coffman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, thank 
+you so much for your work and what you have accomplished. I 
+think you mentioned some things that need to be done from your 
+perspective, some kind of international agreement so there are 
+uniform standards. I think you talked about responsibility to a 
+spill or an accident if it occurs, having a better definition 
+of that. And perhaps some insurance requirements for viewing 
+that, liability issues. And I think what I am hearing from you 
+is that in terms of prevention--so the two aspects. One is 
+responding and the other one is prevention.
+    So in terms of prevention, I guess my question to you is, 
+did adequate regulations exist? But was it merely the 
+enforcement of the regulations that was a problem? Because 
+certainly we know that MMS had very significant problems. I 
+think there was an IG report in 2008 that talks about how 
+dysfunctional MMS was, and I think that we heard in this 
+situation here how the inspection simply didn't occur in the 
+manner that they were prescribed and were supposed to occur.
+    So sometimes we have problems I think where we actually 
+have laws on the books, regulations on the books but they are 
+simply not being enforced. So I think that when we look at what 
+is now the Bureau of Ocean and Energy Management, Regulation 
+and Enforcement that, Mr. Reilly, you know, it is reported that 
+you yourself said that personnel working for this agency are 
+``often badly trained.''
+    Secretary Salazar has said that he has already considered 
+and executed some of the suggestions that your report has 
+highlighted. Hopefully effective training and a cultural shift 
+at his organization were implemented as well.
+    Do you believe that these reforms, among the others that 
+Secretary Salazar has said to have made, would have been 
+sufficient to correct the missteps that were made by MMS prior 
+to enduring the cleanup of the Deepwater Horizon spill? Let's 
+just go into the prevention. I mean, if, in fact, we had a 
+functional regulatory organization that was enforcing the 
+existing rules, would that have been adequate to prevent the 
+incident that occurred?
+    Mr. Reilly. Let me say, I think that the recommendations in 
+the new policies for scripted regulations that the Secretary 
+and the BOEMRE's Director Bromwich have imposed are very 
+desirable and likely to be effective. Negative pressure tests 
+are now prescribed. They were not before. There are a whole 
+range of new requirements that appear to us to make sense. But 
+the reality is that the existing personnel complement entails 
+an inspector for every 55 rigs. In California, it is one for 
+every six. The answers given to a series of interrogatories of 
+questions posed by the Interior Department, and the Coast Guard 
+in their investigations make clear that basic petrochemical 
+technologies, oil and gas technologies, like cementing and 
+centralizing negative pressure tests, are not really 
+understood, are not mastered by many of the inspectors who have 
+said, frankly, that they take industry's lead on those 
+technologies, that they have been evolving over time.
+    And we simply have to provide better formation, better 
+training, and I think better compensation for the people who 
+are conducting that work. So even if today the regulations are 
+sufficient to guard against the repetition of this set of 
+problems, I worry that in a fast evolving industry in 3 to 5 
+years, they may be outdated. And in order to keep them up to 
+date, I think we are going to have to bring up the game among 
+the professionals at the agency.
+    Mr. Coffman. Senator Graham.
+    Mr. Graham. Yes. I would agree with that. And I believe 
+that our recommendations, such as the independence of the 
+safety function within the Department of the Interior, are as 
+important as the decisions that Congress made a number of years 
+ago to make the FBI a quasi-independent agency within the 
+Department of Justice. Just like the FBI, the safety function 
+within the Department of the Interior is susceptible to 
+political interference. And in fact, in the case of MMS, it was 
+rampant interference. And we think that it is a combination of 
+good regulations, competent capacity, adequate capacity, and 
+then insulation from inappropriate external influences that are 
+all part of what is necessary to get us up to world-class 
+standards of safety in this industry.
+    Mr. Coffman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
+    The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. Mr. 
+Sarbanes of Maryland.
+    Mr. Sarbanes. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thank you 
+all for being here. I know it has been a long day.
+    I first wanted to commend you on the report. I haven't had 
+a chance to read it from beginning to end, but I did look at a 
+summary. And I think your recommendations based on the findings 
+you have made are very, very helpful and will be for a lot of 
+us going forward.
+    My understanding, you have gotten some criticism about 
+whether you had everything in front of you, whether you had the 
+blowout preventer and so forth. But as I look at the 
+recommendations, they seem to me all to be confined to a kind 
+that you could make with a lot of confidence without having 
+that extra piece of information at your disposal. It doesn't 
+strike me that anything about your recommendations will be 
+changed in any kind of significant way based on other 
+information that comes forward because you have really derived 
+it from what you saw before you.
+    There was also a comment about your recommending layering 
+another bureaucracy on top of a failed bureaucracy. But as I, 
+again, read your recommendations, I think what you are doing is 
+suggesting a reasonable set of regulatory oversight which in 
+many ways will substitute for what has been a failed 
+bureaucracy.
+    On the issue of bureaucracy, I will ask you to respond to a 
+proposal. This is something I suggested in earlier iterations 
+of legislation suggesting the oil spill. It was a provision 
+that we tried to include in the CLEAR Act. And this would be a 
+requirement that the CEO of these corporations, these companies 
+would certify--personally certify with the potential for 
+liability to the adequacy and safety of the response plan, for 
+example. You talked about, and many have alluded to how these 
+response plans that were developed really across industry. It 
+was highlighted in BP's particular oil spill response plan but 
+were wholly inadequate.
+    So I would like you to speak to whether you think we ought 
+to give meaningful consideration, as I would like to see, to a 
+requirement on the part of the corporate CEO to certify that 
+these plans are, in fact, good plans and that they have done 
+due diligence in creating those plans. And you could do more in 
+terms of changing the culture of those companies with that one 
+sort of piece of leverage than a whole new bureaucracy could 
+do. So if you could speak to that, I would appreciate it.
+    Mr. Reilly. My own sense is that the way such 
+certifications would occur practically is the head of offshore 
+or North America would sign a certification. The chief 
+financial officer might sign a certification. The chief safety 
+and environment vice president would sign a certification. And 
+if all of those signatures were present, then the CEO would 
+sign. And I don't know that it would enhance the liability 
+assignment that you would like to see.
+    It might, from a personal point of view, more closely 
+involve, more intimately include a CEO in a decision that is 
+made; but as Mr. Hayward said, he didn't know anything about 
+the problems that characterized that well situation. He did not 
+know that it had been a troublesome well. He hadn't been 
+particularly involved in making decisions for it or apparently 
+didn't even know that it was coming in late. It is a very large 
+company. So I am not confident myself, based on my own 
+experience with boards of directors, that that would contribute 
+that much positively to safety, frankly.
+    Mr. Sarbanes. Do you think he would have bothered to know 
+more if he had been required to personally certify the safety 
+and adequacy of these plans?
+    Mr. Reilly. Well, he would have probably have had to sign 
+scores and scores of certifications without any individual 
+personal knowledge of the degree to which the characteristics 
+of the well situations were familiar to him. And so, I have 
+reservations about that particular recommendation. I had a 
+conversation with Mr. Waxman about it. I know that it was 
+strongly supported on the part of the Committee. But from my 
+point of view--it is not that common in other high-risk 
+industries either to try to fix the responsibility at the very 
+top. It is there anyway if the company encounters a $10 to $20 
+to $30 billion expense, obviously. And now I think everybody's 
+attention is very focused on liability. And to my knowledge, 
+every company has stood down to examine their own 
+vulnerability, their own risk and get their practices improved. 
+But that is my personal judgment. I actually consulted our 
+senior technology adviser on that particular issue, and we gave 
+it some consideration within the Commission and did not go 
+forward with it.
+    Mr. Sarbanes. Mr. Chairman, can I get the Senator's answer 
+to that question?
+    The Chairman. If the Senator can do it in 15 seconds, which 
+is a test.
+    Mr. Graham. Your question was, would this be something 
+worthy of exploring. I think the answer to that question is, 
+yes. My colleague has done some of that exploring and has come 
+to the conclusion that he has but I think it is an issue. And 
+frankly, your father has given us the opportunity to move this 
+from being a theory to reality, and that it hasn't changed the 
+behavior of corporate executives, that under his legislation, 
+they now are required for public companies to sign personally 
+as to the accuracy of their financial statements. It would be 
+interesting to do some oversight and see what effect that has 
+been. And then you might be in a better position to evaluate 
+the potential applicability of offshore oil drilling.
+    The Chairman. You didn't quite do it, Senator. But
+    nice try.
+    Mr. Graham. Well, I got a little bit off.
+    The Chairman. Well, that is all right. You were talking to 
+the son of a Senator. I can understand why that happened there.
+    Mr. Duncan from South Carolina.
+    Mr. Duncan of South Carolina. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And 
+gentlemen, thank you for being here. I sat by this graph all 
+afternoon and I have studied it. And I want to comment on it.
+    Mr. Reilly. You are the only one who can read it.
+    Mr. Duncan of South Carolina. You have referenced it 
+several times today, and you have come to some conclusions that 
+I think are flawed and here is why. I spent some time on the 
+MMS OCS 5-year planning subcommittee where we looked at oil and 
+natural gas leases and came up with recommendations for the 
+next 5-year plan on where those leases would be granted. And it 
+struck me during the time that the only areas that we could 
+even talk about within that committee was deepwater western 
+Gulf of Mexico and deepwater Alaska. And nearshore--the 1,000 
+foot and shallower areas on that grid--were off-limits for us 
+to even talk about for the next 5-year period.
+    So when you see an increase in activity in deepwater 
+exploration and production, I think it is directly attributable 
+to the fact that policies of the U.S. Government have pushed 
+oil exploration and production away from the shore, away from 
+the marshes and the rivers and other things to deep water.
+    So I think some of the conclusions you have come to based 
+on that chart that your graphics were flawed. So I want to make 
+those comments. Mr. Chairman, I hope that us on the Energy and 
+Minerals Subcommittee or this Committee will continue to look 
+at the policies that are in place that pushed it to deep water 
+and continue to look at nearshore, onshore, and other resources 
+going forward.
+    A couple of questions for you based on your report that are 
+on a whole different line of thinking, so bear with me. In your 
+report, you provide a short review of the fire-fighting efforts 
+and response to the disaster. And I want to commend the guys 
+that went out there on the rescue effort with our Coast Guard 
+and others. And this line of questioning has no bearing on 
+their efforts. But the lack of attention to this critical part 
+of the disaster has left many of us confused.
+    In the report, you state that others are going to study in 
+issue more completely. Can you tell me first--and there are 
+going to be three questions here--can you tell me first, in 
+your opinion, if you believe the fire-fighting efforts were 
+properly coordinated? That is number one. The second thing many 
+believe that fire fighting contributed to the sinking of the 
+rig and was there a possibility of saving the rig? And would 
+the rig not sinking have permitted the sub-sea blowout that we 
+saw? Was there a possibility to let the oil continue burning 
+and work on shutting off the flow of oil that was contributing, 
+that was the source of fuel for the fire? Or was the structural 
+integrity of that rig in jeopardy anyway? So if you could 
+answer those. And either one.
+    Mr. Graham. Well, I said that one of the lessons learned 
+was that we were very ill-prepared to respond, particularly in 
+the critical first hours and days of this. And I would suggest 
+that that included our ability to restrain fire under these 
+circumstances. If I could, I would like to go back to your 
+first comments. I think you have to also look at the issue of 
+depletion. We have been heavily mining for oil and gas in 
+shallow waters since 1938 and continue to do so today.
+    I believe that these charts are as much a function of the 
+reality that most of where the oil is today--the so-called 
+elephants of offshore oil--are not at 1,000 feet. They are more 
+likely to be at 5,000 or 10,000 feet, and that is why that is 
+where the industry is moving. But that might be a question that 
+your subcommittee could examine as to what are the factors that 
+have gone into----
+    Mr. Duncan of South Carolina. We will pursue that at a 
+later time. Let's get back to the fire-fighting efforts and 
+what may have attributed. Because there are a lot of questions 
+in my district and around South Carolina and across the land 
+that I have heard. Do you think the fire-fighting efforts were 
+coordinated? Do you think that the rig could have sat there and 
+burned until we shut off the flow of oil underwater? And the 
+structural integrity of the rig, was it in jeopardy? Do you 
+have any input on that?
+    Mr. Reilly. The only thing I would say without wanting to 
+characterize a lot of activities that occurred in the chaos of 
+the fire and the response is that there were moments at various 
+times when well control could still possibly have been 
+established, when even the gases that were rising in the drill 
+pipe could have been diverted over the side and perhaps not 
+come into contact with the ignition source and not caught fire, 
+but that once the fire began, when we looked at transcripts of 
+reports of what it was like on that rig and how it seemed like 
+a jet airplane or a fast-moving train had just come out of the 
+drill pipe, I am not sure that there was a great deal that 
+could have been done that would have averted the disaster that 
+did occur.
+    It does occur to us, however, that the degree to which the 
+response to the emergency immediately was characterized by a 
+lot of chaos of one of the rescue boats leaving a number of 
+people still on the rig who then jumped into the water and did, 
+in fact, survive, people who made that choice and then 
+discovered those who were in the evacuation boat that they 
+couldn't get away from the rig, as it looked like it was going 
+to topple on them. And they discovered it was because they were 
+tethered by a rope and no one was allowed to have a knife on 
+the rig. So they had to look for a means of severing the rope. 
+It didn't appear to us--and I think the documentation supports 
+this--that there had been the kind of drills, simulations, 
+practices that would have been appropriate and I think probably 
+will be insisted upon in the industry in the future. And that 
+is one more change that needs to occur that we have really 
+learned a lesson from.
+    Mr. Duncan of South Carolina. Do you think the rig would 
+have continued burning.
+    The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. Mr. 
+Landry of Louisiana.
+    Mr. Landry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just for the record, I 
+did raise the Commission's credentials on my campaign to get 
+here. Maybe they weren't raising it here in June, but I sure 
+was in Louisiana.
+    Considering the industry's performance record in the Gulf 
+of Mexico, where over 42,000 wells have been drilled in 
+addition to 2,500 deepwater wells without any significant 
+incidents, in my opinion, reflects a successful risk 
+management, were these safety factors--and these are yes or no 
+questions--were these facts the success and history of all of 
+these wells that had been drilled out in the Gulf of Mexico, 
+were they taken into account when you did this report?
+    Mr. Reilly. Yes, sir.
+    Mr. Graham. Yes.
+    Mr. Landry. OK. Was there any economical analysis done 
+during the course of this report in terms of the impact on not 
+only the Gulf economy, but on the national economy as well? Was 
+that taken into account?
+    Mr. Graham. We know that tens of billions of dollars of 
+damage was done to the environment and the economy primarily of 
+the Gulf as a result of this spill.
+    Mr. Landry. So you say yes?
+    Mr. Graham. The answer is yes.
+    Mr. Landry. The President charged his Commission to 
+determine the cause of the disaster to improve the country's 
+ability to respond to spills and recommend reforms that make 
+offshore energy production safer. Prior to the accident, there 
+existed multiple layers of environmental reviews, including 
+multiple EISs at all of the different phases that DOI uses, 
+NEAs, environmental impact statements and environmental 
+assessments. These included an EIS during the development of 
+the 5-year review, and again, prior to the lease sales. Where 
+does the Commission receive both the authority and conclusion 
+that the need for review warrants any additional changes as I 
+find that no conclusion that had contributed to the accident or 
+to the impact of the cleanup?
+    Mr. Graham. Well, I think that the increasing emphasis on 
+NOAA, the Coast Guard, other agencies that represent the best 
+science in government, and our proposal to use best science 
+from outside the government all go to our interest in enhanced 
+safety, including understanding what are the risks at the 
+individual sites that are being suggested and what are the 
+potential adverse effects on the safety of those who will be 
+operating in that area and the environmental quality of the 
+Gulf. So the answer to your question is yes, we took those into 
+account as part of our overall assessment. We are aware of the 
+fact that the industry, and particularly certain companies 
+within the industry, have had a very strong safety record.
+    We are not saying that everybody was the same. But we are 
+saying that we think that the overall record in the Gulf is 
+stunningly below what is in the standard of the world. If our 
+aviation industry had a record by a 3-to-5-to-1 ratio, we were 
+killing more people in airplanes than, for instance, Great 
+Britain was, we would be pretty upset about why this was 
+happening. That happens to be about the case in this industry 
+between Norway and Great Britain and the U.S. We believe it is 
+in the spirit of America to want to be the best.
+    Mr. Landry. I am glad you brought that up, Senator.
+    Mr. Graham. And these recommendations will move us.
+    Mr. Landry. I am also confused that you would make the 
+suggestion of underreporting incidents in the U.S. because the 
+numbers are low. Are you aware that the industry, as a whole, 
+regards the European standards of reporting incidents much less 
+reliable than the U.S. standards?
+    Mr. Graham. I am not aware of the assessment of that by the 
+U.S. industry. I am familiar with the fact that our fatality 
+accident ratio is significantly different than it is in the 
+North Sea, which raises questions as to whether we are 
+capturing all of the accidents that, in fact, are occurring. I 
+am unaware of any evidence that would indicate that there 
+should be such a significant differential between the 
+fatalities and accidents in the Gulf and in the North Sea.
+    Mr. Landry. I will be supplementing some questions to you 
+all.
+    Mr. Reilly. If I could just add, we are aware that there 
+are very different ways of categorizing incidents, accidents, 
+fatalities, days lost and so forth, total recordables in the 
+North Sea versus the Gulf, different jurisdictions even between 
+the U.K. and Norway.
+    So some of those data need to be very closely scrutinized 
+to determine that you are dealing with oranges and oranges and 
+not apples and oranges.
+    Mr. Landry. On both sides you would agree, though?
+    Mr. Reilly. Yes, I would.
+    Mr. Landry. I want to make sure that it is not just a one-
+way street.
+    Mr. Reilly. But the less disputable number is the fatality 
+number. It is a little harder to hide the bodies. So I think we 
+are confident that those numbers are as we found and that they 
+are disturbing.
+    The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. Mr. 
+Flores from Texas.
+    Mr. Flores. Mr. Chairman, thank you for holding today's 
+hearing. And Chairman Reilly, Chairman Graham, thank you for 
+joining us today. I know you have put in a lot of work on your 
+report and study and we appreciate you being here today. I have 
+an opening statement that I would like to give to the Chairman 
+for the record. I will dispense with that for now.
+    [The prepared statement of Mr. Flores follows:]
+
+                Statement of The Honorable Bill Flores, 
+          a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas
+
+    Mr. Chairman, thank you for holding today's hearing, and let me 
+also take this opportunity to thank Chairman Reilly and Chairman Graham 
+for appearing before us today.
+    It has been nine months since the Macondo Well tragedy, and we all 
+grieve for the families who lost loved ones and for the environmental 
+and economic impacts along the Gulf coast. We can all agree that both 
+industry and the federal government need to examine all the facts 
+surrounding this incident and take the appropriate steps to ensure that 
+we continue to produce American energy with safe, environmentally sound 
+practices. Please know that I also lost a brother in an oilfield 
+accident, so I want the oil and gas industry to operate in a safe and 
+responsible manner. At the same time we should make sure that we 
+facilitate a robust oil and gas industry to fuel our economy and jobs.
+    For the past year and a half, the top concern that I've heard from 
+all Americans is jobs, economic growth, and balancing the federal 
+budget. We all know that our economic health is dependent on the energy 
+sector, especially as we see gas prices rising to more than $3.00 per 
+gallon. That being said, I'm afraid that the Obama Administration is 
+taking us in the wrong direction--locking away our own energy resources 
+and making us more dependent on foreign energy from unstable parts of 
+the world. Even our Treasury is taking a direct hit. With production in 
+the Gulf down due to the Obama Administration's moratorium, it is 
+costing them at least $3.7 million each day in lost revenue.
+    I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today and to working 
+with my colleagues on the committee to take what we've learned from the 
+Macondo Well incident and ensure that we have a robust domestic energy 
+sector that contributes to our economic recovery.
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    Mr. Flores. It has been 9 months since the Macondo well 
+accident and we all grieve for the 11 families that lost loved 
+ones and for those that were injured and for the impact on the 
+families along the Gulf Coast. I want you to know from a 
+personal standpoint that I lost a brother in the oil drilling 
+business, so I have as much interest in conducting this 
+industry as safely as possible as anybody in this room. But 
+that said, I want to make sure that we facilitate a robust oil 
+and gas industry because it is integral to our economic 
+security and our military security. And as a person who is 
+actively involved in the offshore energy business for over 30 
+years, I am keenly concerned about the recommendations in the 
+Commission's report.
+    I think it is interesting that you use the Three Mile 
+Island analogy because, as you pointed out, after Three Mile 
+Island, we have not started and completed the construction of a 
+nuclear power plant in 30 years. It appears we are headed down 
+the same road today with offshore drilling. We have a permit 
+moratorium, a de facto moratorium in deep water, and we have an 
+incredible slowdown in shallow water drilling.
+    Mr. Flores. And we are already seeing that show up in 
+higher oil prices, higher gasoline prices, and reduced economic 
+activity along the Gulf Coast.
+    Here is the issue. Congress has passed legislation. You 
+want Congress to consider legislation. The Department of the 
+Interior has issued new regulations. Lease sales have been 
+canceled. Other areas of potential offshore activity have been 
+put off-limits again. And it is all based on a report that 
+doesn't provide a full postmortem of what happened.
+    And here is the key phrase that is used that causes the 
+concern. You keep referring to systemic industrywide failure. 
+In chapter 4 of the report dated January 6th, you have 
+following key finding: The well blew out because a number of 
+separate risk factors, oversights, and outright mistakes 
+combined to overwhelm the safeguards meant to prevent just such 
+a happening.
+    But most of the mistakes and oversights in Macondo can be 
+traced back to a single overarching failure: a failure of 
+management. Better management by BP, Halliburton, and 
+Transocean would almost have certainly prevented the blowout by 
+improving the ability of individuals involved to identify the 
+risk they faced and to properly evaluate, communicate, and 
+address them.
+    So how can you reconcile between what has happened in the 
+offshore energy business today to calling a systemic failure--a 
+systemic industrywide failure to report, which really just gets 
+down to three companies. And we put the entire Nation's economy 
+in peril by doing this.
+    Let me give you an example. What if we find out after we 
+get the blowout preventer fully evaluated, it takes a $10 bolt 
+that could cure the problem 99.999 percent of the time, and 
+then this accident would essentially never happen. And that is 
+about the ratio of accidents to wells drilled that we have in 
+deep water. So, you know, we have gone overboard.
+    So why did we use those words, systemic industrywide 
+failure? Because that is what has caused the paranoia here.
+    Mr. Reilly. In 1963, Congressman, it was a single weld, as 
+I understand it, that sank the Thresher submarine. And the 
+SUBSAFE system was developed, and we have not lost a SUBSAFE 
+submarine since. We lost one every third year, on average, in 
+peacetime before that.
+    The reason that we concluded it is systemic--and I didn't 
+come in believing it was a systemic problem. I thought it was a 
+single company that had blundered fatally because of the very 
+large presence of those three companies throughout the oil and 
+gas industry in the deepwater and in the shallow water 
+throughout the world, BP is, I think, the largest explorer of 
+offshore oil and gas development. Transocean is the largest rig 
+operator. And Halliburton is the largest supplier of resource 
+help, such as cementing.
+    It is no longer possible for most companies to test the 
+cement, for example, that they are provided by Halliburton. 
+They no longer have the research capacity. Chevron does. Maybe 
+one or two more do. But most decided in the 1980s and 1990s to 
+contract that out. So the cement that is provided is the cement 
+that gets used. And the cement that was provided by the test 
+that Halliburton itself conducted and our commission had 
+conducted was faulty.
+    It is simply inconceivable to us that this was a problem so 
+exclusive, so specially circumstantial with respect to one rig, 
+especially since we know in Australia the cementing failed in 
+the Montara well, just a year and a half or so ago, also.
+    This is something that caused us to believe--and, again, 
+most of the people on that rig were Transocean employees, the 
+people who were responsible for responding to the emergency, as 
+I just described. That is the largest rig operator and owner in 
+the world. It operates for everybody. Everybody hires 
+Transocean. They also are implicated in this, in significantly 
+failing to detect gas rising in the drill pipe.
+    We concluded from that that all companies are at risk if 
+they are using these two contractors, or BP, itself, is 
+probably at risk in other places.
+    Now, we did hear--and we asked the Norwegian regulators, 
+are you taking any actions against BP? The answer was somewhat 
+surprising: ``No, we are not because we do not see issues in 
+the North Sea with respect to BP operations. And, therefore, we 
+have taken no action to discourage their continued operation.''
+    That posed the question to us, well, what is it about the 
+North Sea and the Gulf that has our companies operating safely 
+and protectively in the North Sea, subject to a different set 
+of regulators, and not in the Gulf? And that caused us to look 
+very closely at the degree of oversight, the quality of 
+regulation, and the capacity of the regulators, which we also 
+fault.
+    The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. I 
+wanted to let that response come because that, I know, is very 
+important to the gentleman from Texas.
+    Mr. Rivera from Florida.
+    Mr. Rivera. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    Thank you, gentlemen, for being here today.
+    Commissioner Graham, Senator Graham, as a Floridian and, I 
+believe, as my neighbor, are you still living in the Lakes, are 
+you still in Miami Lakes?
+    Mr. Graham. I am, yes.
+    Mr. Rivera. West of the Palmetto?
+    Mr. Graham. Yes.
+    Mr. Rivera. Well, I am right there with you, in Doral, 
+right down the road. So, as my distinguished constituent--as my 
+distinguished constituent and fellow Floridian, I know we share 
+a great concern for the economy and the environment of our 
+State of Florida.
+    One of the recommendations that you make in your report 
+addresses the need for greater international scrutiny, 
+international standards. As a representative from south 
+Florida, I am deeply concerned about the ongoing development 
+off the coast of Florida, ongoing oil development off the cost 
+of Florida, off the coast of Cuba in particular.
+    As you know, as we speak, there are a number of companies, 
+including Repsol, interested in drilling in the waters off of 
+Cuba. And I wanted to ask you, do you believe that this Cuban 
+drilling between the coast of Florida and Cuba will be done 
+safely? And what could the U.S. do to ensure that any lax Cuban 
+oversight doesn't threaten Florida and the Southeastern United 
+States?
+    Mr. Graham. I am concerned about the safety, the relative 
+lack of experience of the Cubans, in terms of being able to 
+oversee this activity. The record of some of the companies that 
+are being brought in to do this work is not comforting.
+    I believe that something analogous to what Mr. Reilly has 
+said, that we feed to have a Gulf of Mexico-wide set of safety 
+standards that would apply to any country touching the Gulf, is 
+the best assurance that the United States has against 
+inappropriate, unsafe practices in our backyard.
+    And I believe that there is sufficient interest, at least 
+between the United States and Mexico, to move forward in that 
+direction. And, as Mr. Reilly has indicated, the Mexicans have 
+suggested, at least, that they might be the interlocutory to 
+Cuba, to get it involved.
+    To me, it also underscores the importance of the United 
+States having the highest standards. If you go into a 
+negotiation and you are urging the other parties to take their 
+game up a notch and you have not already done that, your 
+persuasiveness is limited. To me, for our own protection and 
+for our ability to raise the standards in the Gulf, we need to 
+adopt policies such as those we have suggested.
+    Mr. Rivera. Well, to that end, following through on that, 
+do you believe that responsible domestic development in the 
+eastern Gulf of Mexico would result in additional oil spill 
+response capabilities being staged in Florida that could be 
+used to respond to a potential spill off of Florida from the 
+Cuban dictatorship's oil-drilling efforts?
+    Mr. Graham. You say in the eastern Gulf. Do you mean in the 
+U.S. waters or the Cuban waters?
+    Mr. Rivera. No, U.S. waters.
+    Mr. Graham. I don't know what the ultimate treaty might 
+say, but I would be surprised if it did not make it the 
+sovereign responsibility of each of the countries to provide 
+that kind of capability for those wells within their own area.
+    And I certainly don't think the United States ought to be 
+depending upon Mexico, providing them the containment and 
+response capability. We ought to do that. The Mexicans ought to 
+do it. And if the Cubans proceed with their plan, they ought to 
+do it.
+    So the answer would be no.
+    Mr. Rivera. Thank you.
+    The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired.
+    Another gentleman from Florida, Mr. Southerland.
+    Mr. Southerland. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
+    And thank you for your report. Thank you for appearing 
+before us today.
+    I am from Panama City, Florida. My district is the 2nd 
+District of Florida. I took my baby steps on the beaches of 
+Panama City. And I love our environment. And a day with my 
+family, with my children on Shell Island is a little piece of 
+heaven for me.
+    I will tell you, my community, dear friends of mine, were 
+deeply affected by this disaster. I just wanted to ask some 
+brief questions.
+    Number one, how much responsibility, in light of this 
+disaster, how much responsibility do you believe that the 
+government bears after having cited 790 violations? How much 
+responsibility do they bear?
+    Also, by refusing to waive the Jones Act and bringing in 
+oil ships that had the ability to clean up that oil, OK, by oil 
+leaders around the world that had produced those ships, how 
+much responsibility should be beared by this government?
+    Mr. Reilly. We did inquire into the application of the 
+Jones Act and the allegations that have been made, particularly 
+by the Europeans and a couple of commissioners of the European 
+Union, that we were keeping out Belgian and Dutch response 
+capability. And the response we received from the Coast Guard 
+is that their offers of help were looked at, largely not taken 
+into account, I guess mostly not taken into account, because 
+they were not considered necessary at the time or useful for 
+the particular task.
+    But I know that, in Mississippi, there were from France a 
+series of skimmers, six or eight skimmers or something, that 
+were brought in and were used. So it was possible, in other 
+words, to get out help from other countries.
+    My sense, frankly is that the Coast Guard was sufficiently 
+preoccupied with its own response, that vetting applications 
+from other companies and countries and other technologies was 
+probably something that in realtime they didn't have an awful 
+lot of time to give.
+    Mr. Graham. If I can just say, I think this goes back to a 
+theme of today, and that is, you don't do basic research while 
+fire is out of control. If you haven't done it before the fire, 
+it is not likely to be very effective. So I think that things 
+like the----
+    Mr. Southerland. I understand, Senator. But when you have a 
+neighbor that is willing to bring a boatload of hoses, you 
+accept those hoses, and you say, you know what? My first 
+priority is to put out the fire. OK?
+    And I have to tell you, I get angered when I think of the 
+pain that we have experienced along that Gulf Coast, and I 
+think of my dear friends who are no longer in business. It 
+angers me. And yet today we want to talk about the 
+responsibility of BP and how they should self-regulate their 
+industry. When 790 violations were noted, that is incompetent. 
+And yet, you know, we have the idea that we are going to have 
+CEOs stand up and sign a letter of certification certifying 
+liability. I want Secretary of the Interior and regulatory 
+department heads to sign those same documents. OK?
+    The American people are tired of sending their money to 
+Washington, D.C., and Washington be the problem. I am angered 
+by the response of this government in light of this disaster. I 
+am angered by the same government that failed in its response 
+to Katrina.
+    And until we start looking inward and take personal 
+responsibility for the lives we are destroying instead of 
+assessing blame, it has to be somebody else's fault. The 
+responsibility is here. The buck stops here.
+    And I am bothered that this commission--Qdecisions, there 
+should be 10 down here. In the bottom, I wrote, ``government's 
+decision to aid and abet.'' Was there a less likely alternative 
+available? Yes. Less time than alternative? Yes, they save 
+time--decisionmakers--the Federal Government--onshore.
+    And I am bothered, OK, that we are just going to add to the 
+bureaucracy when the bureaucracy was the problem, in many ways.
+    Mr. Reilly. May I answer that question, Mr. Chairman?
+    The Chairman. You sure can.
+    Mr. Reilly. You raise an important question that we address 
+with respect to safety and personal safety, occupational safety 
+and health on the rigs themselves. Presently, when a rig is 
+under sail or in motion, it is the responsibility of the Coast 
+Guard to ensure safety.
+    We recommend that BOEMRE has the full responsibility on the 
+rig for safety personnel and that it understand and have the 
+capability to enforce that, so that there is not a division of 
+responsibility or a confusion about whether this is a delegated 
+responsibility from OSHA to the Coast Guard and the role of MMS 
+in all of this, that it be amalgamated in one agency.
+    On the Jones Act, the key issue, in my view, is to have 
+procedures in place ahead of time so that the extensive 
+permitting reviews and approvals by the State Department are 
+not necessary once the catastrophe may have occurred.
+    Mr. Graham. And that was what I was going to say, is that 
+you need to anticipate. And I would suggest that this Committee 
+could make a significant contribution in doing some serious 
+thinking about what are the questions, what are the resources, 
+what are the potential impediments when we have the next 
+disaster. It won't be exactly like this one, but we will have 
+more disasters. And how can we, by anticipating, take actions 
+that will avoid the hoses not being delivered.
+    Mr. Southerland. Yeah.
+    The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired.
+    The gentleman from Pennsylvania, Mr. Thompson.
+    Mr. Thompson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    Gentlemen, thank you for your testimony.
+    Someone had offered an airline analogy earlier. And as I 
+have looked at and read through and tried to synthesize this 
+commission's recommendations, if I applied the Commission's 
+recommendations to the airline industry, essentially, with one 
+airplane crash, we would shut down all airplanes and, frankly, 
+all airports.
+    I apologize for being late. I was in a workforce hearing, 
+and I had an opportunity to question Governor McDonnell from 
+Virginia. And, specifically, my questions were about the impact 
+of the Administration's response and shutting down offshore as 
+a result of this.
+    Here are some of the statistics. And I will be quick with 
+this, and then I have my questions. He indicated that, you 
+know, this industry would create more than 1,900 new jobs just 
+in Virginia, increase the State's gross domestic product by 
+$365 million annually, and generate approximately $19.48 
+billion in Federal, State, and local revenues.
+    Senator Graham, Secretary Reilly, page 2 of your testimony 
+states, quote, ``But most of the mistakes and oversights of 
+Macondo can be traced back to a single overarching failure--a 
+failure of management by BP, Halliburton, and Transocean,'' end 
+quote.
+    And under the key facts, you also stated that the 
+investigation team identified several human errors, engineering 
+mistakes, and management failures.
+    You know, based on those statements, a logical person would 
+conclude that it wasn't the lack of adequate science and 
+engineering but the proper application of science and 
+engineering by those on the rig that resulted in the Deepwater 
+Horizon Macondo tragedy.
+    Basically yes or no, do you agree with that conclusion?
+    Mr. Graham. Well, I think part of the responsibility of 
+effective management is to understand the risk and take steps 
+to mitigate the risk. The fact is that there was no effective 
+plan in place or capability to implement a plan before this 
+accident occurred.
+    Mr. Thompson. So it sounds that you agree, it was 
+management.
+    Mr. Graham. I think that is a failure of management to do 
+effective risk analysis and take steps to mitigate the risk.
+    Mr. Thompson. Great. Thank you.
+    Secretary, any thoughts?
+    Mr. Reilly. I would support that. Yes, sir.
+    Mr. Thompson. OK. Thank you.
+    On page 7 of your testimony, you state, under the headline 
+of ``Reforming Industry Safety Practices,'' quote, ``Government 
+oversight must be accompanied by the oil and gas industry's 
+internal reinvention, sweeping reforms that accomplish no less 
+than a fundamental transformation of its safety culture,'' end 
+quote.
+    Internal reinventions, sweeping reforms, and fundamental 
+transformation, you know, frankly, of an entire industry is 
+what the implications are of the result of these 
+recommendations, frankly are words of alarm and cast a very 
+wide net. I assume they are based on a thorough review of the 
+hundreds of companies involved in U.S. energy production and 
+not just three companies, despite how large they are, that were 
+mentioned in the report.
+    Did the Commission conduct such a review?
+    Mr. Reilly. We conducted a review of the incident itself, 
+of accident data----
+    Mr. Thompson. So your review----
+    Mr. Reilly.--through the industry.
+    Mr. Thompson. I think if you answer my question, your 
+review was of three companies out of perhaps thousands.
+    Mr. Reilly. Well, it is of 79 losses of well control in the 
+last, whatever, 20 years or so, affecting a very large number 
+of companies operating in the Gulf.
+    Mr. Thompson. No, I understand. So the review--frankly, 
+there are 3,500--the number I looked at--3,500 rigs in offshore 
+production and thousands of companies engaged in production, 
+but the conclusion was really based on looking at three 
+companies?
+    Mr. Reilly. Well, the inferences drawn for the likelihood 
+of entailed risk with those three companies largely rest upon 
+what we learned from the experience of those three companies. 
+But we had significant data about many other companies and 
+their experiences that caused us to use the term ``systemic.''
+    Mr. Thompson. And I appreciate, you know, that you are 
+taking that inference from there, but, essentially, the 
+inference is drawn from three companies but, frankly, casting a 
+pretty wide net with your recommendations, impacting thousands 
+of companies.
+    Mr. Graham. But if I could add to that, you made the 
+allusion to, and I had suggested, if the United States had a 
+four-fatalities-to-one ratio in airline accidents versus, let's 
+say, Norway or the United Kingdom, I believe the American 
+public would be outraged. That is the situation between the 
+North Sea and the Gulf of Mexico. And I don't think that one 
+company----
+    Mr. Thompson. If I can reclaim my time, because I know I am 
+going to get gaveled out here--I am new on the Committee.
+    I think the American people would also be pretty irate--
+they would be saddened with the loss of one life in an airplane 
+accident, no doubt about it, and they would be concerned with 
+that airplane crash. But they would also be irate if the 
+Federal Government essentially shut down the entire airplane 
+industry, as opposed to really focusing on drilling down, no 
+pun intended, and systematically determining the root cause of 
+that airplane crash.
+    And I, obviously, am out of time.
+    Mr. Reilly. Congressman, neither Senator Graham nor I nor 
+our commission are here to defend the moratorium, not for a 
+minute.
+    Mr. Thompson. Very good.
+    The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired.
+    That completes the first round, but several Members have 
+expressed an interest to follow up on their first questions.
+    And, Senator Graham, while I didn't ask you, I asked Mr. 
+Reilly, and he says, ``I have all the time in the world.'' So 
+he is going to have to answer to you if that is--you know, 
+however you want to work that.
+    Let me start--Mr. Grijalva had a follow-up, so let me 
+recognize Mr. Grijalva for 5 minutes.
+    Mr. Grijalva. Thank you very much.
+    And let me, at the outset, thank the gentlemen for your 
+presence here and for a compelling report.
+    The only question, I think--page 142 to 143 in your report, 
+you deal with the issue of the Jones Act that came up, that it 
+was not, indeed, an impediment to getting foreign assistance or 
+outside assistance to come to the aid of that spill. Also, 
+there are comments there, after the Governor insisted on those 
+berms, that they probably created more problems than they 
+solved.
+    But the question, I think, has to deal with the word that 
+some of my good friends found offensive, and that is the issue 
+of ``systemic.'' We have here--and I think your report is 
+compelling because it deals with the role of government and the 
+lack of oversight on the part of the Federal Government as a 
+contributing factor to the laxness that we found. And it deals 
+very directly with systemic issues that occur within the 
+management and the operation of the industry.
+    I think the report is compelling insofar as something needs 
+to be done. And if we want to raise the standard of oil 
+production offshore, where it is safe, both for life and for 
+the environment, then this report needs to be responded to.
+    The recommendations that you made for legislative action 
+are sound. I don't agree with all of your recommendations, nor 
+do I assume every Member agrees with everything in there. It is 
+a sound framework. There are principles in there that we must 
+deal with. I want to thank you for that, for the time that you 
+took and for, I would assume, the seriousness in which we are 
+going to take this report.
+    So thank you for your time, and thank you for the report. 
+As I said, compelling, necessary, and timely.
+    Thank you.
+    Mr. Reilly. Thank you, sir.
+    Mr. Graham. Thank you.
+    The Chairman. OK. I thank the gentleman.
+    Let me go to Mr. Landry of Louisiana.
+    Mr. Landry?
+    Mr. Landry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    I am having trouble understanding how you all can come to 
+the conclusion that there are these systemic failures by using 
+those three companies and claiming that because those three 
+companies do such a large percentage of the work in the Gulf of 
+Mexico, that every time they go on a job they are using the 
+same protocols in engineering for the different customers that 
+they are doing business with.
+    That simply is not true. There are different well designs 
+that are in place by different oil and gas companies. Some of 
+those well designs, I might add, have been around since the 
+inception of deepwater drilling.
+    And so I don't understand how you came to this decision of 
+a systemic failure. Why not look at those oil and gas companies 
+who have drilled successfully, without incident, looking at the 
+well design and saying, this type of well design seems to be 
+the safest? In my opinion, it certainly would save the 
+taxpayers a lot of bureaucracy if you all took a look at those 
+different designs.
+    Did you all take a look at the different well designs? And 
+did you take in mind that they did not--that when those 
+contractors work for different oil and gas companies, they 
+don't follow the same protocols and engineering specs?
+    Mr. Reilly. We did look at the design of this particular 
+well, and at least two companies made clear to us that they 
+would not have chosen the design that BP did for that formation 
+in that place.
+    Mr. Landry. But, Mr. Reilly--and I apologize for cutting 
+you off, but you told me earlier that you all took into account 
+the 2,500 wells that were drilled in deep water. You told me 
+you took into account their history and their success. But yet, 
+now you are telling me you only took into account the well 
+design on BP, on BP's Macondo well.
+    Mr. Reilly. Well, the conclusion that the well design that 
+was used by BP at Macondo was not an appropriate one or is one 
+that created more risks than were necessary in the eyes of at 
+least two companies is based upon a judgment about alternative 
+well designs of the sort that you suggest.
+    Mr. Landry. Well, I am trying to clarify your answer. I 
+mean, did you look at the other well designs and take into 
+account that, when you issued your report telling us that there 
+is a systemic failure in the industry and that we have to 
+create these additional levels of bureaucracy, costing the 
+taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars, when you made that 
+recommendation, did you or did you not look at the history of 
+the other deepwater wells, the 2,500 or so, that have been 
+drilled in the Gulf of Mexico when you took into account 
+issuing this report?
+    Mr. Reilly. Yes. Yes, sir, we did.
+    And let me say, from the point of view of someone who 
+considers 1 in 2,500 not so impressive, frankly, if it is going 
+to cost $40 billion or $50 billion to the economy of the area 
+and to the company involved, I think we are drawing a different 
+conclusion from the success rate.
+    I regulated at the Environmental Protection Agency, with 
+respect to a number of issues, one in a million, which was the 
+maximum acceptable impact or fatality, mortality, premature 
+death associated with a certain kind of decision, a pesticide 
+decision, for example. So 1 in 2,500 doesn't impress me as a 
+very positive record, frankly.
+    Mr. Landry. Well, I certainly would like you to look in the 
+eyes of the people who are losing their jobs down in Louisiana, 
+who have built this industry, who have basically been drilling 
+since 1947 off of that coast, and tell them that. I can tell 
+you, from living down there, that safety is number one. It has 
+been for a very, very long time.
+    Mr. Reilly. Congressman, the decision to deny them their 
+jobs and to shut down every rig in the deepwater area, every 
+exploration rig, is one that I think is highly contentious, 
+excessive, and hard to justify. And I have made that clear, as 
+has Senator Graham, from the outset.
+    We would have approached this in a more selective fashion 
+so as not to penalize those companies that had not been 
+specifically implicated in the disaster after some short period 
+of review and inspection which did, in fact, take place, and 
+they were cleared.
+    So we are not here to defend the denial of jobs or against 
+the resumption of activity in the Gulf. Very much we want to 
+see it resume, but we want to see it resume safely and 
+effectively.
+    Mr. Landry. And may I put your name in as a recommendation 
+to take Ms. Browner's place then?
+    Mr. Graham. Congressman, I have to take some exception to 
+the statement that you made about that we are recommending 
+hundreds of millions of dollars of additional regulation. Yes, 
+we are recommending that there be an adequate, competent, 
+politically insulated safety function within the U.S. 
+Department of the Interior. I don't think those are radical 
+suggestions.
+    Number two, we are recommending that the industry, as other 
+high-risk industries have done, assume more responsibility for 
+their own evaluation of safety. That is no cost to the U.S. 
+Government and, I think, is a very prudent suggestion to the 
+industry and one which will contribute to the industry's long-
+term viability.
+    So I would just--if you see something in our report that 
+you think is hundreds of billions of dollars, or millions of 
+dollars, of additional expense and an excessive addition to 
+bureaucracy, I would like to be directed toward that, because 
+that was not our intention.
+    The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired.
+    Mr. Flores?
+    Mr. Flores. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    With the backdrop that I introduced earlier today, and that 
+is that we have lease sales that have been canceled, offshore 
+areas that have been taken off the availability list to be 
+drilled on in the future, higher gas prices, lower domestic oil 
+production, lost jobs, a hurt economy, with that--and a lot of 
+that is because this report is being relied upon to continue 
+moratoria, either de facto or regulatory or however they want 
+to be described. And it goes back to this ``systemic, 
+industrywide failures'' comment.
+    Co-Chairman William Reilly stated, in your January 6th 
+release, on chapter 4's release, ``My observation of the oil 
+industry indicates that there are several companies with 
+exemplary safety and environmental records. So a key question 
+posed from the outset of this tragedy is, do we have a single 
+company''--that being BP--``that blundered with fatal 
+consequences, or a more pervasive problem of a complacent 
+industry? Given the documented failings of both Transocean and 
+Halliburton, both of which served the offshore industry in 
+virtually every ocean, I reluctantly conclude that we have a 
+systemwide problem.'' That is your quote.
+    Now, Mr. Reilly, based on what I see of the internal 
+inconsistency and the weight which this report is being given 
+and the energy future of this country, I would respectfully ask 
+the Commission if they will amend the report to remove the 
+words ``systemwide industry failure.'' Will you do that?
+    Mr. Graham. Congressman, how would you defend the presence 
+of walrus protection and polar bears in a response plan? Or how 
+would you defend Mr. Hayward's telling me there is no subsea 
+containment capability? Or the inadequacy of the response 
+technology and the failure to invest in it over the last 20 
+years after we experienced the disaster in Prince William 
+Sound? I think these speak for themselves.
+    And the response plans were not confined to the three 
+companies. All the majors that we looked at had literally the 
+same response plans and the same concern for walruses and the 
+dead expert and all the other things we know. And several CEOs 
+have said they found it embarrassing and were humiliated by it. 
+And that had a lot to do with their decision to create the 
+Marine Well Containment Corporation, which is a very 
+significant and positive step on the part of the industry.
+    So I don't think that you can infer anything other than, 
+``Well, it sure looked like complacency.'' And when people say, 
+``We never thought it could happen''--and I include myself in 
+that--we were complacent. I think the government was, the 
+industry was, I was.
+    Mr. Flores. Well, again, the application for permits that 
+are filed are based on pretty much cookie-cutter requirements 
+that the MMS--or what was formally called MMS used to issue.
+    Mr. Reilly. And I don't exempt them from the criticism.
+    Mr. Flores. OK. And so, maybe there was a regulatory 
+failure----
+    Mr. Reilly. Uh-huh.
+    Mr. Flores.--as part of it. I think we all agree that there 
+was. And we all agree that BP had an integral part to play in 
+this failure.
+    But, unfortunately, what has been condemned here is the 
+entire industry, as well as the energy security of this 
+country, going forward. And I think it goes back to those 
+words, ``industrywide, systemic failure.''
+    And I just--I would respectfully disagree with you. I don't 
+think that we have that type of a failure. And I would like to 
+state for the record, I think those words ought to be struck 
+from the report.
+    Mr. Reilly. Well, let me just say that our report is 11 
+days old, and the degree to which there has been a delay in 
+issuing permits or a de facto moratorium that has been referred 
+to, I don't think has anything to do with this report. And we 
+certainly don't expect or didn't intend that we would 
+contribute to that.
+    We, in fact, were assuming that a number of these 
+recommendations could be implemented coterminously with the 
+resumption of activity on the part of the companies that 
+weren't in any way involved in the Macondo disaster.
+    Mr. Flores. Thank you.
+    I yield back.
+    Mr. McClintock. [presiding.] The gentleman yields back.
+    Congressman Thompson?
+    Mr. Thompson. Thank you, Chairman.
+    Just one additional question. On page 6 of your testimony, 
+under the heading ``Environmental Review,'' you state that the 
+Commission recommends, quote, ``a more robust and more formal 
+interagency consultation process in which NOAA, in particular, 
+is provided a heightened role, but ultimate decision-making 
+authority is retained by the Department of the Interior,'' end 
+quote.
+    And my question--and I wanted to get your rationale behind 
+it. Obviously, you know, the role of NOAA was of great concern 
+to the Commission. My question actually is, shouldn't the 
+Departments of Energy and Commerce have an equal, if not 
+greater, voice in NOAA in the formulation of rules and 
+regulations that certainly have a great influence on our 
+domestic energy production?
+    Mr. Graham. Well, just let me clarify. NOAA is part of the 
+Department of Commerce. So, I assume, through NOAA----
+    Mr. Thompson. Commerce was involved. How about Energy?
+    Mr. Graham. Yeah, Department of Commerce would be involved.
+    What we were focusing on there, I mentioned it in my 
+opening statement. A key fact to understand is that the 
+relationship of the U.S. Government to the offshore oil 
+industry is not just as a regulator. It is not like the 
+relationship of the Department of Transportation to the bus 
+industry of America. It is also the relationship of the owner 
+of the property. All of that property out there in the Gulf of 
+Mexico, beyond the State limits, belongs to the people of the 
+United States of America.
+    We have made a decision that we will lease portions of that 
+to oil companies under certain conditions to evaluate and, if 
+found, extract oil and gas. We have the same interests that, if 
+you owned a small shopping center, you don't want to have a 
+tenant in your center who is trashing it and is going to make 
+it impossible for other tenants to have a profitable 
+enterprise.
+    So I think we need to put ourselves in the position of, 
+what should we be doing to assure that our children and 
+grandchildren will have a Gulf of Mexico that is of a quality 
+that we would be proud to hand over to them as our inheritance.
+    I think these recommendations, and particularly the 
+recommendations of bringing the best science--and we think the 
+Department of Commerce and NOAA represents the best science in 
+this area--to bear, in terms of what should be the conditions 
+of our proposed tenant to lease our property, is not an 
+imprudent thing to do.
+    Mr. Thompson. OK.
+    Well, one of the--as I came to Congress 2 years ago, one of 
+the things that just appalled me--and, you know, this is over 
+different administrations, different parties--is the absolute 
+lack of a national energy plan in this country. And when we are 
+talking about the Outer Continental Shelf and offshore 
+resources or onshore resources, you know, frankly, the Energy 
+Department was formed for that very purpose, to achieve energy 
+independence, I guess, in the 1980s when it happened. It has 
+failed miserably. But I think one of the proper steps, 
+obviously, would be involved in this type of a process.
+    Mr. Graham. I am completely in agreement with that. In 
+fact, it was my position, and I think this is reflected in the 
+report, that you can't answer the question, ``What is the 
+future of the offshore industry?'' without answering the larger 
+question, ``What is our energy policy in the United States?''
+    I was telling Bill, and he had already seen it, that in 
+yesterday's newspapers there were some articles about the fact 
+that the RAND Corporation had raised questions about whether 
+the U.S. military could convert to a less fossil-dependent 
+Navy, Air Force, Army. And they raised serious doubts about 
+whether that could be done, which, to me, just underscores the 
+importance of this industry for our fundamental national 
+security.
+    Mr. Thompson. Great. Well, thank you.
+    Thank you, gentlemen, for your testimony. I have additional 
+questions, but we will forward those along. Thanks.
+    Mr. McClintock. Thank you.
+    Mr. Grijalva?
+    Mr. Grijalva. Thank you.
+    And this, gentlemen, I swear, are the last questions. We 
+all need to be outside, enjoying the blizzard that is 
+happening.
+    Mr. McClintock. Why not stay here? There is no place else 
+to go.
+    Mr. Grijalva. Gentlemen, both of you have said that the 
+resumption and full production of offshore drilling, in terms 
+of energy production, is something that you want to see and 
+that could be occurring as we make the other kinds of 
+adjustments that we have to make to make this industry safer 
+and our role as a government stronger.
+    And one of the key recommendations that the Commission made 
+is that the Federal oil and gas regulators that have been 
+underfunded--I think they are getting less now than they did 20 
+years ago--that we create a dedicated funding stream for oil 
+and gas fees to fund this, so it is well-trained, professional, 
+a level of--an insulation of independence.
+    And yet, as we are talking about this and the critical need 
+to deal with the production issue that has come up consistently 
+here by my colleagues, we are also talking about reductions to 
+2006 levels, to 2008 levels, based on the resolutions that we 
+are dealing with on the Floor.
+    So, at some point, this full production restoration idea 
+and concept that you support as commissioners, with the 
+backdrop of not ever meeting the Commission report in terms of 
+providing a robust oversight regulatory function for government 
+that is independent, how do you reconcile that one opinion with 
+the lack of resources on the other end?
+    Any comment would be fine.
+    Mr. Graham. Well, it is our recommendation that, like is 
+the case with most other industries, industries who don't have 
+this additional characteristic of being our tenants, we expect 
+the airline industry, the telecommunications industry, across 
+the board virtually, to pay for their own regulation. They are 
+self-funded regulation. We did not see any compelling reason 
+why that should not be true of this industry. So that would be 
+our basic recommendation.
+    That would take action by the Congress if, for instance, 
+there were--as there is now for the oil liability fund--a fee 
+attached to each barrel of oil. I believe that is for both 
+imported as well as domestically produced, which goes into that 
+fund. Maybe we need to have a supplemental stream to go into a 
+fund for the regulation of the industry so that we can assure 
+to the industry that we will have a competent, sustained 
+ability to assure safety and----
+    Mr. Grijalva. Well, Senator, on my question, if I may, you 
+see a linkage and not an either/or proposition?
+    I21Mr. Graham. I mean, either/or----
+    Mr. Grijalva. Either you have the regulatory capacity and 
+the resources to deal with the demand for full production, and 
+if that linkage doesn't occur, is it an either/or proposition?
+    Mr. Graham. No, my----
+    Mr. Grijalva. Can you have one without the other?
+    Mr. Graham. Well, the answer is, I don't think it is in the 
+interest of the American people not to have adequate standards, 
+again, in part, because we have just seen what the consequences 
+are to a lot of very innocent people, and we have seen what the 
+consequences are to an important piece of real estate that 
+belongs to all of the people of America.
+    Mr. Grijalva. Yeah, I think the question is, reducing 
+Interior's levels to 2006-2008 that directly impact your 
+recommendation, in terms of building up the resource capacity 
+and the overall capacity of regulators and oversight, that, I 
+think, does not help the safety demands for offshore drilling 
+that is also a part of the recommendations.
+    Mr. Reilly. We are quite clear that the quality of 
+regulation has been insufficient; that an industry which did 
+not used to be a high-risk industry, as it has proceeded so 
+heavily into deep water, has become that. The industry, itself, 
+needs to take the steps that are suggested by this catastrophe, 
+but so does government.
+    Other governments have done so after their own 
+catastrophes. We have mentioned the United Kingdom and Norway, 
+which responded to very severe accidents that they had by 
+separating the revenue-generating function from the regulatory 
+function and significantly improving the quality of their 
+regulator.
+    Senator Graham mentioned that, in the United Kingdom, the 
+oil and gas industry lobbies for more appropriations for the 
+regulator, because they recognize that quality in the 
+regulator--as did Mr. Tillerson, the Chairman of ExxonMobil, in 
+his testimony before us, and Mr. Odum, the President of Shell 
+USA. Both of them mentioned the quality of regulation as 
+essential to the quality of industrial activity.
+    That is all we are really suggesting. So, to try to save 
+money at BOEMRE, at this point, having seen that budget go down 
+20 percent over the last 20 years as the oil and gas production 
+in the Gulf went up 300 percent, is really penny-wise and 
+pound-foolish.
+    Mr. Grijalva. Thank you, sir.
+    The Chairman. [Presiding.] The time of the gentleman has 
+expired.
+    Mr. McClintock of California?
+    Mr. McClintock. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    First, I would like to ask unanimous consent to insert into 
+the record the Wood-MacKenzie report commissioned by the 
+American Petroleum Institute, entitled, ``The Impact of Gulf of 
+Mexico-Deepwater Permit Delays on U.S. Oil and Natural Gas 
+Production, Investment, and Government Revenue,'' dated 
+December 2010, which I cited earlier. And I have souvenir 
+copies for our lucky panelists.
+    The Chairman. Without objection, so ordered.
+    Mr. McClintock. Thank you.
+    [NOTE: The report entitled, ``The Impact of Gulf of Mexico-
+Deepwater Permit Delays on U.S. Oil and Natural Gas Production, 
+Investment, and Government Revenue'' has been retained in the 
+Committee's official files.]
+    Mr. McClintock. I would also like to ask unanimous consent 
+to include the Wall Street Journal editorial which I 
+referenced.
+    The Chairman. Without objection, so ordered.
+    [The Wall Street Journal editorial follows:]
+
+                          Gulf Political Spill
+
+Wall Street Journal
+Editorial dated January 13, 2011
+    President Obama's drilling commission released its 398-page report 
+on the causes of the Gulf oil spill this week, and talk about a lost 
+opportunity. After six months of hearings and interviews, the 
+commission still doesn't know what caused the accident but does think 
+it knows enough to condemn all and sundry.
+    The disaster, we are told, was primarily the result of 
+``overarching failure of management'' \1\ by BP, Transocean and 
+Halliburton--which is hardly news to anyone who's been paying 
+attention. Yet the commission didn't stop with the companies that 
+managed the Macondo well, going on to blame the highly unusual blowout 
+on a ``system-wide problem'' of failed regulation and a complacent 
+industry that requires ``significant reform.''
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+    These sweeping conclusions are remarkable from a commission that 
+admits to knowing so little. The report cites several questionable 
+decisions made by Macondo drillers as the ``immediate causes'' of the 
+blowout, only to acknowledge it can't say which, if any, were the 
+cause:
+      ``It is not clear whether the decision to use a long 
+string well design contributed directly to the blowout.'' \2\
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+      ``The evidence to date does not unequivocally establish 
+whether the failure to use 15 additional centralizers was a direct 
+cause of the blowout.'' \3\
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+      ``Whether ... `unconverted' float valves contributed to 
+the eventual blowout, has not yet been, and may never be, established 
+with certainty.'' \4\
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+    Unable to name what definitely caused the well failure, the 
+commission resorts to a hodgepodge of speculations. Adding to the 
+confusion, it acknowledges it could find no evidence that BP or its 
+contractors ``consciously chose a riskier alternative because it would 
+cost the company less money.'' The commission didn't even wait to get 
+an autopsy of the failed blowout preventer, which is rusting on a 
+Louisiana dock.
+    The report's one firm conclusion boils down to this: In the hours 
+preceding the explosion, crew members missed ``critical signs'' that 
+something was wrong. ``The crew could have prevented the blowout--or at 
+least significantly reduced its impact--if they had reacted in a timely 
+and appropriate manner.'' \5\ This is called human error, in this case 
+with tragic consequences to those who erred.
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+    Yet it's hardly evidence that the entire drilling industry is an 
+accident waiting to happen, as the commission insists. Its section 
+``The Root Causes: Failures in Industry and Government'' \6\ uses 
+questionable decisions made by the Macondo players to suggest, with no 
+evidence, that such behavior is the industry norm.
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+    The report fails to reconcile this indictment with the industry's 
+prior safety record, or with the fact that many countries have modeled 
+their drilling technology and practices on those of the Gulf. For a 
+better account of how unusual the Macondo practices were, we recommend 
+the June 11, 2010 letter to the editor in this newspaper from Terry 
+Barr, the president of Samson Oil and Gas.
+    The commission nonetheless offers an array of recommendations, most 
+of which would severely restrict oil and gas drilling. Despite 
+President Obama's promises that the new Bureau of Ocean Management 
+(formerly the Minerals and Management Service) is now a shipshape 
+regulator, the commission recommends that Congress create another 
+agency to supervise drilling. Now, there's a new idea--another layer of 
+bureaucracy to supervise the bureaucracy that failed.
+    The report also advocates toughening the National Environmental 
+Policy Act to make it harder for companies to obtain drilling leases. 
+Another section doubts it is possible ever to drill safely in Alaska or 
+the Arctic--a hardy perennial of the anti-oil lobby.
+    This was all too predictable given the political history of 
+commission members. Former Democratic Senator Bob Graham fought 
+drilling off Florida, William Reilly is the former head of the 
+antidrilling World Wildlife Fund, and Frances Beinecke ran the Natural 
+Resources Defense Council, which is opposed to carbon fuels. Not a 
+single member was a drilling engineer or expert in oil exploration 
+technology or practices.
+    Compare this to the Rogers Commission, which investigated the 
+Challenger space shuttle disaster of 1986. Led by former Secretary of 
+State William P. Rogers, that group included theoretical and solar 
+physicists, engineers and aeronautics specialists. The commission 
+located the exact cause of the disaster (failed O-rings) and prescribed 
+precise safety changes. The preface of the Rogers report states that 
+the only way to deal with such a failure is to investigate, correct and 
+``continue the program with renewed confidence and determination.''
+    The unbalanced, tendentious nature of the commission report 
+vindicates those who suspected from the start that this was all a 
+political exercise. The White House has been pounded on the left for 
+agreeing to ease drilling restrictions before the spill, and now it is 
+looking for support to walk that back. Though the Administration 
+officially lifted its Gulf drilling moratorium and issued new safety 
+rules two months ago, it has refused to permit a single new well.
+    U.S. gasoline prices are now above $3 a gallon, and the decline in 
+Gulf drilling will not help supply. Forecasters predict domestic 
+production will fall at least 13% this year due in part to the Gulf 
+lockdown. Meanwhile, last week the British Parliament rejected a 
+drilling moratorium in U.K. waters on grounds it would cause 
+``expertise to migrate,'' decrease ``security of supply'' and harm the 
+British economy.
+    The BP spill was a tragedy that should be diagnosed with a goal of 
+preventing a repeat, not in order to all but shut down an industry that 
+is vital to U.S. energy supplies and the livelihood of millions on the 
+Gulf Coast.
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    Mr. McClintock. Mr. Chairman, if I were to summarize what 
+we have learned today, it is this: We faced an engineering 
+issue. A blowout preventer failed, and it failed 
+catastrophically. It caused enormous environmental and economic 
+devastation.
+    Before this commission was empaneled, we did not know why 
+that blowout preventer failed. After the Commission concluded 
+its work and issued this report, we still don't know why that 
+blowout preventer failed. We don't know why it failed because 
+the Commission never even bothered to look at the blowout 
+preventer, which, according to the Wall Street Journal, is 
+rusting on a dock in Louisiana.
+    We have never had a blowout failure like this one. Until we 
+find out why it failed, it could happen again. It could happen 
+at any time. And the Commission has not advanced our 
+understanding of how to prevent it one bit.
+    The contrast between this commission's work and the Rogers 
+Commission after the Challenger disaster is staggering. If the 
+Rogers Commission had operated in the same manner, we would 
+still have no idea what caused the Challenger to explode or how 
+to prevent it in the future.
+    We have before us a report offering bureaucratic 
+prescriptions to an engineering problem, authored by 
+bureaucrats, rather than an engineering prescription authored 
+by engineers.
+    I don't know exactly how the Committee would advance the 
+issue from here. I certainly seek the Chairman's guidance. But 
+I would recommend that we take whatever action is necessary to 
+empanel a panel of engineering experts to go down to that dock 
+in Louisiana, retrieve that blowout preventer, tear it apart 
+piece by piece, find out what caused it to fail, and do so 
+before it happens again.
+    Mr. Reilly. Would the gentleman yield? I would just respond 
+to that, if I might.
+    Sir, I think that you can draw an analogy between the 
+blowout preventer and a seatbelt in an automobile accident. It 
+is obviously important to the survival of someone that the 
+seatbelt wasn't fastened, but it doesn't really explain why the 
+accident occurred.
+    We explained why the accident occurred. We fingered and 
+identified, I think, all of the major contributors, the 
+decisions, and their technological consequences, their 
+engineering consequences that led to the disaster.
+    Examining the blowout preventer is not going to cause those 
+other facts that we uncovered to go away. They are there. They 
+are distressing. They do have implications for policy, and we 
+tried to draw them.
+    The Chairman. Well, I want to thank both of your witnesses 
+for being here today. I know you had a long day. You started at 
+10 o'clock in the Senate. And I very, very much appreciate your 
+willingness to stay here so some of our Members could have 
+another explanation or a clarification of what is going on.
+    I know that there will be some other questions that 
+Members, probably on both sides, would like to ask you. And if 
+you would agree to respond in writing to those questions, we 
+would very much appreciate that.
+    Mr. Reilly. We will do that, Mr. Chairman. We have a staff 
+I think for another 5 weeks, 4 weeks.
+    The Chairman. OK, great.
+    Mr. Reilly. And we will use them to the very end, to the 
+extent they allow that.
+    I would just like to say, we very much appreciate the 
+attentiveness, the interest of this Committee, the thoroughness 
+of the kinds of questions that we received, and understand the 
+seriousness of different kinds of concerns about our report and 
+about the conclusions that we drew.
+    We hope it is helpful to the deliberations of the Committee 
+and that the relatively modest proposals we have made are 
+looked at seriously and perhaps implemented. As I mentioned, I 
+think they are modest in terms of cost and bureaucracy 
+disruption.
+    The Chairman. Well, I thank you for that.
+    And let me just mention and, again, reiterate what I said 
+at the start of this, at the start of when the BP well broke, 
+that we had to find out what went wrong. We will continue to do 
+that. And, as I mentioned in my opening statement, there are 
+two more reports out. We will look at what they have to say and 
+draw, hopefully, some conclusions from that.
+    But I also will reiterate what I also said in my opening 
+response. What we do here will send a very, very strong signal 
+into what I think is very, very critical long term. And long 
+term is the energy security of our country. You alluded to 
+that. So the balance we have to make is make sure that we 
+continue to have a robust industry, especially in a down 
+economy.
+    So, with that, I want to thank all of the Members again for 
+being here, and especially for the two of you to stay for this 
+long time.
+    And, with that, if there is no further business, the 
+hearing stands adjourned.
+    [Whereupon, at 5:16 p.m., the Committee was adjourned.]
+
+    [Additional material submitted for the record follows:]
+
+    [The prepared statement of Mr. Holt follows:]
+
+               Statement of The Honorable Rush D. Holt, 
+       a Representative in Congress from the State of New Jersey
+
+    Thank you Chairman Hastings and Ranking Member Markey for holding 
+this hearing today on the final report of the National Commission on 
+the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling. I look 
+forward to hearing from the distinguished co-chairs of the Commission; 
+Senator Graham and Mr. Reilly on the findings of the Report.
+    Although the oil has stopped gushing into the Gulf, the crisis is 
+far from over. The Report to the President from the Commission made one 
+point all too clear. The BP Deepwater Horizon Spill is not an isolated 
+incident. As long as we continue to drill for gas and oil off our 
+shores it is not a question of if, but when the next oil spill is going 
+to happen.
+    Our existing regulatory system is inefficient, plagued with loop-
+holes for big oil companies, and all too often lets polluters off the 
+hook while exposing taxpayers to economic harm.
+    One of the issues that I am pleased that the Commission addressed 
+in the Report is that of liability limits for oil and gas companies as 
+the result of an oil spill. Since the spill began I have been concerned 
+about the fisherman, the hotel owner, the tourism operator and those 
+whose livelihoods depend on the Gulf. Under the Oil Pollution Act (OPA) 
+of 1990, oil companies are required to cover the full costs of 
+``removal.'' However the law set a $75 million cap for economic and 
+natural resources damages.
+    Many of us breathed a sigh of relief when BP established a $20 
+billion escrow account to compensate individuals and businesses for the 
+damages inflicted by the spill. So far they have paid over $2.5 billion 
+in economic damages from the spill, demonstrating that the current $75 
+million liability cap remains a laughable amount.
+    When the next spill occurs--and it's a matter of when, not if--
+there is no guarantee that the next oil company can or will cover all 
+damages. We shouldn't wait for that spill to occur to make the 
+necessary legal changes to ensure that companies like BP pay for every 
+last cent of the mess they made.
+    This is why today I, along with 17 of our colleagues, introduced 
+the Big Oil Bailout Prevention Act which would eliminate the liability 
+cap for economic and natural resources damages.
+    The report reinforces the need for this legislation, finding that 
+the current liability cap ``limits liability well below levels that 
+might actually be incurred'' and that the ``cap distorts the incentives 
+of industry participants to adopt cost-effective safety precautions.''
+    The liability cap is just one of the issues that need to be 
+addressed by Congress in the wake of this report. The Commission's 
+Report states that without Congressional action, we cannot ensure that 
+the Department of Interior will have the tools necessary to protect 
+America's coastal communities economic and environmental interests, or 
+guarantee the safety of our nation's oil and gas rigs for workers. I am 
+proud to be a cosponsor of legislation introduced by Ranking Member 
+Markey today that would implement all of the much needed reforms cited 
+in the Report. I look forward to hearing from our distinguished 
+speakers today and to work with my colleagues to implement these much 
+needed reforms.
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    [The prepared statement of Mr. Landry follows:]
+
+             Statement of The Honorable Jeffrey M. Landry, 
+        a Representative in Congress from the State of Louisiana
+
+    Thank you, Chairman Hastings, for calling this hearing and for 
+starting this Congress off on the right foot with responsible and 
+meaningful oversight. I can think of no better way to start a new 
+tradition of oversight than reviewing the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil 
+Spill Commission Report.
+    Many thanks to the Chairman for also giving me time to express the 
+views of many of my constituents who have not had an opportunity to 
+make known their grievances with the recommendations of the Commission.
+    I would also like to thank Senator Bob Graham and the Honorable 
+William Reilly for coming before this committee to answer, what I 
+believe will be tough but fair and very important questions.
+    Let me state that the tragic accident of April 20, 2010 cannot be 
+ignored nor minimized. This disaster killed eleven workers and 
+generated one of the largest oil spills in United States history. Many 
+Louisianans were affected by the explosion on the Gulf and the 
+subsequent waves of oil that blanketed our coastline.
+    While this accident cannot be ignored, it can also not be employed 
+as justification for debasing the entire offshore drilling industry.
+    My first priority is always the safety and economic well-being of 
+my constituents in Coastal Louisiana. After analyzing and evaluating 
+the Commission's broad range of recommendations, I have some concerns 
+that I would like for our witnesses to address today.
+    First, I would like to express my concerns with the Commission's 
+recommendation of continued overlapping of new and existing regulatory 
+agencies within the Department of Interior. I believe that more 
+agencies at the Department of Interior and at the Bureau of Ocean 
+Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement (BOEMRE) will ultimately 
+create more red tape without improving human or environmental safety.
+    Moreover, the proposed regulations will delay offshore oil 
+production and will prolong Louisiana's high unemployment rate. Thus, 
+the Commission's recommendations are diametrically opposed to the 
+Administration's own stated goals of reducing unemployment and 
+lessening our dependence on foreign oil.
+    Furthermore, I am disappointed that the Commission does not address 
+the economic and labor impacts of actually implementing all the 
+Commission's recommendations.
+    A scant eight days ago, President Obama signed an Executive Order 
+stating that government regulations should ``take into account benefits 
+and costs'' and ``further economic growth, innovation, competitiveness 
+and job creation.'' Again, the Commission's report runs directly 
+counter to the Administration's own stated goals.
+    Specifically, I am frustrated that the Commission failed to address 
+the economic factors of the President's offshore drilling moratorium--
+including the number of lost jobs, wages and oil revenue to the United 
+States Treasury. The moratorium has already reduced United States oil 
+production and has cost numerous Louisiana jobs. I believe these facts 
+needed to be fully addressed in the report.
+    Finally, I believe we need to make sure that effective, efficient 
+reforms are made to improve safety while still allowing drilling to be 
+conducted in the Gulf of Mexico. Rest assured, I will continue to work 
+with my fellow like-minded colleagues on the Natural Resources 
+Committee to create and keep jobs in the offshore energy sector.
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    [The prepared statement of Mr. Wittman follows:]
+
+             Statement of The Honorable Robert J. Wittman, 
+        a Representative in Congress from the State of Virginia
+
+    Chairman Hastings, thank you for holding this important oversight 
+hearing. Senator Graham and Administrator Reilly thank you for your 
+presence here today and for your efforts leading the President's 
+National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore 
+Drilling.
+    The fire, sinking and loss of the 11 crewmembers of the Deepwater 
+Horizon drilling rig was a true tragedy. The Gulf region is still 
+recovering from the economic and ecological impact of the oil spill.
+    We must make every effort to ensure that federal agencies are 
+effectively structured to regulate offshore drilling, while protecting 
+the environment and meeting our nation's energy demands.
+    Since the oil spill significant steps have already been taken to 
+improve safety standards for the oil and gas industry. Structural 
+reforms at the Department of Interior by Secretary Ken Salazar have 
+fundamentally altered the regulatory body responsible for offshore 
+drilling. These new regulations and structure address many of the key 
+government oversight failures that led to the Gulf oil spill. 
+Additionally, the oil and gas industry has taken steps to develop 
+advanced technology that would lessen the likelihood of similar 
+catastrophic blowouts. These and other steps have already made the 
+offshore industry safer.
+    It is appropriate to carefully review and ensure that offshore 
+energy production is appropriately regulated and conducted in a safe 
+and environmentally sensitive manner. However, it is also critical that 
+we promote responsible American made energy, including oil, natural 
+gas, nuclear, coal, and renewable energy. Unfortunately, the 
+Commission's report on balance includes proposals that would ultimately 
+restrict domestic energy production with little measurable increases in 
+safety. Of particular concern is the Commission's implicit support for 
+the Administration's ongoing moratorium on energy development in the 
+Atlantic Ocean.
+    Virginia has the opportunity to develop offshore energy in an 
+environmentally friendly manner and lead the nation in improving our 
+energy security and creating thousands of jobs. The economy of Virginia 
+will benefit tremendously from the demand for goods and services 
+created by offshore development.
+    Promoting offshore oil and gas development is one tool in an ``all 
+of the above'' energy strategy that is necessary to meet our nation's 
+growing needs. In addition to oil and gas, Virginia has the potential 
+to develop offshore windmills and other types of renewable energy. All 
+of these forms of energy are necessary to meet the challenges of the 
+21st Century.
+    I look forward to continuing to move Virginia towards energy 
+independence, offshore energy development and job creation.
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    [The response to questions submitted for the record by Mr. 
+Reilly and Senator Graham follows:]
+
+    Response to questions submitted for the record by the National 
+ Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling
+
+Chairman Doc Hastings (WA-R)--Questions
+ Question: Acknowledging that the U.S. will have less domestic 
+        production from the OCS in the foreseeable future; does the 
+        Commission have any recommendations as to where Congress should 
+        promote domestic oil and gas development to offset those 
+        losses?
+    Response: The Commission does not foresee that any of its 
+recommendations will lead to less domestic production from the OCS in 
+the foreseeable future. The Commission instead concluded that the 
+Macondo well blowout was fully preventable and that deepwater drilling 
+in the Gulf can be done safely in the future with appropriate 
+safeguards, all of which are readily achievable. The only threat to 
+domestic production from the OCS would be the failure of industry and 
+government to take those necessary steps to restore safe drilling to 
+the Gulf.
+ Question: The Commission dealt primarily with offshore production, 
+        would the Commission encourage greater onshore oil and gas 
+        production from federal lands where an oil spill would be less 
+        complex to clean up and mitigate?
+    Response: The Commission did not consider the comparative safety of 
+onshore and offshore drilling because the President's charge to the 
+Commission was limited to the viability of offshore drilling, 
+especially in deep waters. Because, moreover, the Commission concluded 
+that deep water drilling in the Gulf can be done safely and those deep 
+waters are where significant oil and gas resources exists, the 
+Commission never had occasion to determine whether onshore production 
+was needed as a substitute for offshore drilling.
+ Question: According to press reports, after the Commission released 
+        some of its findings, companies came forward with information 
+        that rebutted specific statements in the Commission's report.
+ Since the Commission doesn't appear to have incorporated the new 
+        information provided after the press leak in the final report, 
+        how will that new information be utilized and made available to 
+        the public?
+    Response: The Commission has received no information from companies 
+since the release of the Commission's final report that has refuted any 
+of the Commission's findings and conclusions concerning the causes of 
+the Macondo well blowout and the resulting Deepwater Horizon rig 
+explosion. Chapter 4 of the Commission's final report summarized those 
+findings and conclusions. As promised by that report, moreover, the 
+Commission's Chief Counsel has since released a detailed and full 
+account of those same findings and conclusions in a 350 page technical 
+report. That Chief Counsel's Report describes in exhaustive detail all 
+the engineering and management mistakes made by the three companies 
+that resulted in the well blowout and rig explosion.
+    The Chief Counsel, the Commission's Chief Scientist, and the Chief 
+Counsel's investigation team met repeatedly with representatives of the 
+three companies principally involved in the blowout--BP, Halliburton, 
+and Transocean--and other oil and gas companies. Indeed, for much of 
+the investigation, those companies were all extremely cooperative and 
+provided invaluable information. The Chief Counsel asked BP, 
+Halliburton, and Transocean to review his draft final report to the 
+Commission prior to its publication to give them the opportunity to 
+correct misstatements and provide additional information. The Chief 
+Counsel took that same precaution in late October 2010, immediately 
+prior to holding a public hearing in which he detailed for the 
+Commission his preliminary findings and conclusions. Each of the three 
+companies was provided a preview of that presentation, again, in order 
+to allow them to correct misstatements and provide additional 
+information.
+    In short, the Commission's Chief Counsel gave the companies 
+extraordinary opportunities to comment on the Chief Counsel's findings 
+and conclusions prior to their release because the Chief Counsel was 
+determined to provide the Commission and the American public with the 
+most comprehensive and accurate accounting of the causes of the Gulf 
+oil spill disaster. The Commission's investigation has never been aimed 
+at determining legal responsibility or allocating blame for the 
+blowout. The companies involved may nevertheless believe that the Chief 
+Counsel's and Commission's findings could be relevant to the outcome of 
+other proceedings. It is therefore understandable that they would 
+advocate factual positions that would, if accepted, minimize their 
+potential liability.
+ Question: Did any controversial findings require corroboration?
+    Response: The Commission does not view its findings as 
+controversial or in any manner as unsupported. The Commission's 
+exhaustive investigation identified precisely the mistakes made that 
+caused the well blowout and rig explosion. Both the Commission's final 
+report and the Chief Counsel's report to the Commission provide 
+detailed corroboration for each of the Commission's findings and 
+conclusions regarding the causes of the blowout and explosion. The 
+Commission's final report provides that description and corroboration 
+in a more summary fashion as part of the Commission's overall report, 
+and the Chief Counsel's report to the Commission sets it forth in 
+greater detail, in over 350 pages of text, figures, and footnotes. That 
+accounting properly identifies areas where there is unavoidable 
+uncertainty. Any remaining uncertainty, however, has no bearing on the 
+strength of the Commission's ultimate recommendations for changes in 
+government and industry practices, which are more than amply supported 
+by what the Commission concluded with certainty.
+ Question: What record of proof was considered sufficient to support a 
+        particular finding?
+    Response: The Commission did not assume the role of a judge or 
+jury, applying a strict legal standard of proof, such as the 
+``preponderance of evidence test'' applied in civil liability lawsuits 
+or the ``beyond reasonable doubt'' standard applied in criminal 
+prosecutions. The President's Executive Order to the Commission 
+expressly instructed the Commission not to apply formal legal standards 
+that might intrude upon potential civil litigation or criminal 
+prosecution. For that reason, the Commission instead applied a standard 
+of reasonable certainty, meaning whether the evidence allowed the 
+Commission to conclude with reasonable certainty what had happened and 
+whether the action taken was either an engineering mistake or failure 
+in management.
+ Question: How did Commission staff resolve conflicts between witness 
+        accounts?
+    Response: As a practical matter, by the time the Commission staff 
+had completed its investigation, there were very few witness accounts 
+of facts that differed in ways that affected the Commission's ultimate 
+findings and conclusions regarding the causes of the well blowout. The 
+Commission's investigation instead found striking common ground 
+regarding the basic facts and the Commission consulted its own Chief 
+Scientist and a team of expert engineers and scientists, many of whom 
+work with industry, to evaluate those facts in identifying the mistakes 
+made by the three companies.
+    When the Chief Counsel discovered an important factual or 
+analytical dispute that was central to the Commission's investigation, 
+he took the steps to resolve the dispute. For instance, after BP called 
+into question the stability of the Halliburton cement slurry, and 
+Halliburton refuted those claims, the Chief Counsel obtained from 
+Halliburton the cement recipe used at Macondo as well as materials for 
+testing the recipe. The Chief Counsel then obtained the services of 
+Chevron, one of the world's leading experts on cement, to test the 
+stability of that formula. Those tests revealed that Halliburton's 
+cement, based on that formula, was in fact unstable. This was a major 
+fact finding achieved by the Commission.
+    Finally, to the extent that the Commission concluded that the facts 
+were uncertain, the Commission expressly acknowledged that uncertainty 
+and explained to what extent, if any, that uncertainty affected the 
+Commission's finding and conclusions. Such candor was consistent with 
+the Commission's charge: to provide the American people with a full and 
+comprehensive accounting of the blowout. Such an accounting invariably 
+includes acknowledgement of remaining uncertainties.
+ Question: What standards did the staff apply to determine whether a 
+        particular statement was credible or not? For example, was 
+        hearsay considered reliable?
+    Response: The Commission staff considered the full context of any 
+statement in determining its reliability, including but not limited to 
+the credibility of the person making the statement, his or her relative 
+expertise, and corroborating documentary evidence. As a general matter, 
+the Commission sought to rely primarily on statements of facts offered 
+by those with firsthand knowledge of factual assertions being made. 
+And, for that same reason, hearsay as a general matter was discounted. 
+In some instances, however, the Commission staff had no choice but to 
+rely on hearsay, for example, to investigate the statements and actions 
+of several men who died on the rig. In such circumstances, hearsay is 
+the only available evidence. When such hearsay was the basis of the 
+Commission's findings, the Commission sought, as fact finders 
+traditionally do in such circumstances, corroboration of those 
+statements by more than one source. In addition, the Commission always 
+made clear in its report the full basis of its factual finding so 
+others could weigh it accordingly.
+    As described in response to an earlier question, however, as a 
+practical matter, factual disputes were not a major problem for the 
+Commission staff investigation. The Commission's factual investigation 
+resulted in a factual accounting regarding the drilling of the Macondo 
+well and the response and containment efforts about which there is very 
+little meaningful dispute about what happened.
+    On occasion, there were disputes regarding the engineering or 
+scientific significance of certain facts and data. In some instances, 
+representatives of the companies principally involved disputed the 
+importance of certain data or undisputed facts. In cases of analytic 
+disputes, the Chief Counsel's staff consulted an extensive array of 
+industry and academic experts before reaching conclusions, and noted in 
+the Chief Counsel's report any meaningful differences between our 
+findings and those of others.
+ Question: How did the staff conduct its deliberations?
+    Response: There were no formal deliberations by staff. Staff met 
+frequently and informally to discuss facts, analyses, and written work 
+products. In addition, they prepared draft written work products, which 
+were reviewed by staff team leaders and ultimately by the Executive 
+Director and/or Chief Counsel prior to submission to all the 
+Commissioners. The Commissioners, by contrast, did deliberate and, as 
+required by the Federal Advisory Committee Act, Commissioner 
+deliberations took place in public.
+ Question: Who was present?
+    Response: There were no formal meetings in which staff deliberated. 
+Of course, there were informal conversations between staff on a 
+consistent basis over the course of their research and investigation.
+ Question: Were they confidential?
+    Response: There were no staff deliberations. Internal staff 
+discussions that occurred regularly on an informal basis during staff 
+research and investigation were not open to the public. As discussed 
+above, staff frequently invited technical experts from the companies 
+involved in the blowout to discuss and explain facts and data.
+ Question: If they were not confidential, will you make the 
+        deliberations public?
+    Response: Because there were no formal staff deliberations, there 
+is no information to be made public. There are no minutes or written 
+account of the myriad informal conversations that staff had with each 
+other during staff research and investigation. The work product that 
+resulted from staff research and investigation were draft staff working 
+papers, draft staff findings and recommendations, and draft staff 
+chapters, all of which were submitted to the Commissioners. Draft staff 
+working papers submitted to Commissioners were published on the 
+Commission website. Draft staff findings and recommendations were 
+presented to the Commissioners at a hearing open to the public at a 
+December deliberative meeting. And, finally both the Commission's final 
+report, which was based on the Commission's written work and the final 
+staff working papers have all been released to the public, as has the 
+Chief Counsel's Report to the Commission.
+ Question: Some individuals have raised concerns about the 
+        investigative techniques practiced by the staff working on the 
+        Commission's report. In order to better understand the reasons 
+        behind the investigative techniques employed by the staff, 
+        please answer the following questions:
+ Why did the staff conduct ``group interviews,'' that is, interview 
+        more than one person at a time, thus allowing the perspective 
+        of one person to influence that of another?
+    Response: The Commission staff conducted interviews both on an 
+individual basis and on a group basis. Both types of interviews can be 
+effective in fact finding. At the November hearing, the Chief Counsel 
+engaged in some group interviews because that was an effective means of 
+resolving and highlighting for the Commissioners and the American 
+public significant differences in viewpoints expressed by witnesses. 
+Staff also conducted several group interviews with teams of technical 
+experts (as opposed to fact witnesses) to facilitate a robust 
+discussion of technical issues.
+ Question: Why did the staff announce preliminary findings publicly, 
+        thus allowing witnesses and subjects of the investigation to 
+        adjust their rendition of events prior to the final findings 
+        being published?
+    Response: The purpose of announcing preliminary findings when the 
+Commission staff did so was to ensure the accuracy of the staff's final 
+proposed findings for submission to the Commissioners. Such a procedure 
+allowed, and the Commission staff encouraged, anyone with information 
+relevant to the preliminary findings to submit that information prior 
+to the issuance of any final staff proposed findings. Like any fact 
+finder, the staff can discount the persuasiveness as appropriate of 
+efforts by witnesses and subject to investigation to adjust their 
+rendition of facts in light of those preliminary staff findings.
+ Question: Why did the Chief Counsel paraphrase and summarize testimony 
+        during the Commission's public hearings instead of quoting 
+        witness statements as a means of ensuring an accurate record?
+    Response: The transcript of the hearing already provided a verbatim 
+record of what witnesses said. The purpose of the Chief Counsel's 
+paraphrasing and summarizing was to provide the full Commission with 
+the benefit of the Chief Counsel's considered judgment concerning what 
+had been learned from the two days of testimony the Commissioners had 
+heard. The Commission has publicly posted all transcripts of witness 
+testimony on its website for public review.
+ Question: The Commission's recommendations state that pollution 
+        prevention standards should be developed in consultation with 
+        international regulatory peers. Are you familiar with the joint 
+        work of the International Oil Spill Conference? Is that an 
+        adequate international working group?
+    Response: The Commission is aware of the International Oil Spill 
+Conference and Commission staff had occasion in their research to 
+review some of the papers and abstracts presented at every 
+International Oil Spill Conference from 1969 to 2008. The Commission 
+has taken no view on whether that particular organization would be 
+sufficient for the development of the necessary standards.
+ Question: The Commission has made it clear that all of industry has 
+        the same ``safety culture'' that was practiced on board the 
+        Deepwater Horizon and that the failure of the ``safety 
+        culture'' as evidenced by the explosion and subsequent oil 
+        spill are systemic and overarching.
+ How many drilling contractors operate in the Gulf and what percentage 
+        of those operators did the Commission interview and which of 
+        these operators safety records and cultures did the Commission 
+        analyze?
+    Response: The question is based on an incorrect premise. The 
+Commission made no such statement regarding the safety culture of the 
+offshore oil and gas industry. The Commission's final report instead 
+makes clear that many companies have exemplary safety records. And the 
+Commission further expressly praised those companies not only in the 
+Commission's final report but in public hearings held this past 
+November.
+    The basis for the Commission's conclusion that the offshore 
+drilling industry suffered from a ``systemic'' problem was very 
+different, as the Commission's report makes clear. That conclusion was 
+based on the nature of the mistakes that the Commission found were the 
+cause of the Macondo well blowout and rig explosion as well as the 
+identity of those making the mistakes. The Commission did not discover 
+one or two isolated mistakes but a pattern of repeated mistakes in well 
+drilling operations that revealed a fundamental failure of risk 
+management and safe drilling practices. In addition, those making the 
+mistakes were not just three insignificant companies. They included the 
+largest operator of deepwater drills in the Gulf (BP); the largest 
+supplier of cement for all deepwater wells, not just to BP but to all 
+operations in the Gulf (Halliburton); and the largest operator of 
+deepwater drilling rigs in the Gulf that services not just BP but all 
+major operators (Transocean). In addition, the Commission staff 
+investigation revealed that BP was not the only company that had failed 
+to plan for a possible deepwater well blowout;BP did not maintain 
+resources adequate to contain and respond to such a blowout, as 
+promised by the oil spill response plans BP had submitted to the 
+government. None of the other oil companies was prepared for such a 
+blowout, notwithstanding their formal and repeated claims to the 
+government that they were prepared. Indeed, all of their oil spill 
+response plans were riddled with inaccuracies and false promises. It 
+was on this firm basis that the Commission concluded that the offshore 
+industry as a whole suffered from a culture of complacency that had 
+assumed away, rather than effectively planned for a possible deepwater 
+well blowout.
+ Question: The report includes a ``loss of well control graph'' showing 
+        79 accidents in the Gulf of Mexico between 1996 and 2009.
+ How many wells were drilled during that time period?
+    Response: According to the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, 
+Regulation and Enforcement, operators drilled 13, 359 wells in the Gulf 
+between January 1, 1996 and December 31, 2009.
+ Question: What does the Commission believe constitutes a safe 
+        industrial record?
+    Response: A loss of well control does not, by itself, indicate that 
+an operator was engaging in unsafe drilling practices. Some risk is 
+inevitable in offshore drilling, especially in deep water. The purpose 
+of the chart in the report describing the 79 incidents of loss of well 
+control is not to suggest that each of those incidents demonstrates 
+unsafe drilling practices. It is instead simply to document the 
+inherent risks of offshore drilling and the reason why it is so 
+essential that industry always be on guard to ensure that such 
+incidents do not result in the kind of major disaster that occurred 
+with the Macondo well blowout.
+ Question: Does the Commission believe it is possible to eliminate 
+        human error from the disaster equation?
+    Response: No, it does not. Safe drilling practices, however, 
+require anticipating the potential for such human error and building in 
+safeguards both to minimize its occurrence and its consequences. The 
+human error that caused the Macondo well blowout was entirely 
+preventable and was not the result of unavoidable human error.
+ Question: Since taking office one of Secretary Salazar's primary 
+        efforts has been to ensure that oil and gas companies ``use or 
+        lose'' their leases. This effort has included changes in rental 
+        payments, reducing the length of leases, and greater regulatory 
+        attention to the speed of the development of leases. You have 
+        highlighted in your report that many of the steps taken by BP 
+        in the development of this well were done to save time.
+ Considering the Department's pressure to speed development, does the 
+        Commission believe that BP felt obligated to use these time 
+        saving measures to meet the Department's demands?
+    Response: The Commission has insufficient information upon which to 
+form a belief concerning BP's motivations for saving time and whether 
+they might have been related to Department of the Interior policies.
+ Question: Does the Commission believe that we should consider 
+        extending the length of leases to allow companies and 
+        regulators additional time to conduct environmental and safety 
+        studies?
+    Response: The Commission did not consider that issue and neither a 
+decision to extend or a decision not to extend the length of leases 
+would, accordingly, be inconsistent with the Commission's 
+recommendations.
+ Question: UCSD Economics Professor James Hamilton has written that 
+        ``nine out of ten of the U.S. recessions since World War II 
+        were preceded by a spike up in oil prices.'' In fact, he has 
+        recently written that it was high oil prices that caused a 
+        significant decline in personal spending and new car purchases 
+        that contributed to our current recession.
+ Did the Commission look at the impact of reduced domestic oil and gas 
+        production on gasoline prices, the GDP, or the Nation's balance 
+        of trade?
+ If high gasoline prices and oil price spikes are known to do 
+        significant harm to the U.S. economy, should the U.S. ensure 
+        that adequate domestic production is available to prevent 
+        significant price spikes and declines?
+ Did the Commission conduct an analysis on the economic impacts of 
+        higher gasoline prices and declining domestic production on the 
+        lower income brackets of the U.S. population?
+    Response: The Commission did not undertake a detailed analysis of 
+the relationship of the nation's economy to oil and gas prices because 
+such an inquiry was outside the Commission's charge, as described by 
+the President's Executive Order creating the Commission. Consistent 
+with that Executive Order, the Commission identified the root causes of 
+the oil spill and made recommendations concerning how to prevent future 
+spills and mitigate their consequences.
+ Question: Did the Commission at any time receive direction on policies 
+        to consider or recommendations that should be made from:
+        a.  Ms. Carol Browner, Special Assistant to the President?
+        b.  Mr. Steve Black, Counselor to the Secretary of the 
+        Department of the Interior?
+        c.  The Honorable Ken Salazar, Secretary of the Department of 
+        the Interior?
+        d.  Mr. Michael Bromwich, Director, Bureau of Ocean Energy 
+        Management
+        e.  The Honorable Steven Chu, Secretary Department of Energy?
+        f.  Would the Commission please provide any directions or 
+        instructions from these individuals that were provided to the 
+        Commission to the Committee? (These requests include emails, 
+        letters, phone logs, and other communications)
+    Response: The only direction or instruction that the Commission 
+received from anyone outside the Commission itself concerning the 
+proper scope of the policies and recommendations for the Commission's 
+consideration was contained in the President's Executive Order 
+establishing the Commission. That Executive Order defined the scope, 
+purpose, structure, and timetable for the Commission's work. The 
+Commission neither received nor entertained any other instructions or 
+directions concerning what the Commission should consider or recommend. 
+No one, including any of the listed individuals, purported to direct or 
+instruct the Commission on policies or recommendations or otherwise to 
+exercise supervisory or managerial authority over the substantive 
+nature of the Commission's work. Any such assertion, moreover, of 
+supervisory or managerial authority would have been antithetical to the 
+independence of the Commission's investigation and recommendations and 
+for that reason rejected by the Commission. Because the Commission 
+received no ``instructions'' or ``directions'' of this kind, the 
+Commission has no related documents to provide.
+Congressman and Ranking Member Edward J. Markey (MA-D)--Questions
+ Question: During the hearing, it was asserted that the Commission 
+        should not have issued its final report until it knew 
+        definitively why the blowout preventer (BOP) failed to function 
+        as it should have. How can you say you did a thorough review of 
+        the accident and determined the causes if you weren't able to 
+        inspect the BOP?
+    Response: The Commission could do so for the straightforward 
+reason, explained in the Commission's Final Report and further 
+elaborated upon in the Chief Counsel's Report to the Commission, that 
+even if the blowout preventer did fail, that failure did not cause the 
+explosion that killed 11 men on April 20th. As the Commission report 
+and Chief Counsel's Report explain, the rig crew realized too late what 
+was happening and thus activated the BOP too late to have prevented an 
+explosion. By the time the crew tried to activate the BOP, gas had 
+already flowed above the BOP and was rocketing up the riser. That gas 
+is what ignited on April 20th.
+    By contrast, as the Commission report and Chief Counsel' Report 
+further explain, if the crew had heeded warning signs earlier in the 
+day, they could easily have prevented the explosion from happening. 
+These included misinterpreting the negative pressure test used to check 
+the integrity of the cement job. In the hour or so before the 
+explosion, there were several other odd and unexpected pressure 
+readings that the crew should have realized were signs of a problem, 
+but unfortunately did not. If they had properly recognized these signs, 
+they could easily have closed in the well.
+    To be sure, any blowout preventer failure may potentially have 
+played a part in the severity of the oil spill, but the disaster as a 
+whole was due to a rather staggering series of errors by the three 
+companies, all of which our investigation has documented. These errors 
+can be addressed through better regulation, better training for 
+workers, and a strong commitment to safety by both the companies and 
+the regulators. Examples of key mistakes by BP, Halliburton, and 
+Transocean as identified by the Commission's investigation include:
+          Failure to get a good cement job
+          Failure to understand that the negative pressure test 
+        indicated that the cement was instable
+          Problems with BP's temporary abandonment procedures, 
+        in particular, its decision to displace mud from the riser 
+        before setting additional barriers to back up the cement at the 
+        bottom of the well. This left the faulty cement at the bottom 
+        of the well as the only physical barrier that could prevent the 
+        flow of hydrocarbons into the well
+          Failure to understand that a kick was occurring, even 
+        though there were several odd and unexpected pressure readings 
+        in the hour or so leading up to the explosion that the crew 
+        should have realized signaled a problem
+          Failure to respond appropriately once mud and gas 
+        began spewing onto the rig floor. The crew should have diverted 
+        the gas overboard instead of diverting it through the mud-gas 
+        separator. While it is not entirely clear this would have 
+        prevented the explosion, it could have at least limited its 
+        impact.
+    For these reasons, the blowout preventer analysis, while important, 
+will not change the Commission's conclusions that a failure of 
+management led to numerous risky and unnecessary decisions made by the 
+companies involved, each of which led to the occurrence of the blowout. 
+The blowout preventer can, like a seatbelt, reduce the amount of harm 
+that is caused, but in the circumstances of the Macondo well, even a 
+properly functioning blowout preventer was not a root cause of the 
+accident and its immediate tragic consequences for those on the rig on 
+the night of April 20th. The BOP's relationship to an oil or gas well 
+is the same as the relationship of an airbag to a car--it is not 
+intended as a means to prevent an accident, but to mitigate its 
+effects.
+ Question: Can you briefly list all the errors or other problems 
+        encountered in the weeks, days and hours leading up to the 
+        blowout at the Deepwater Horizon well that caused the accident 
+        to occur in the first place?
+    Response: A brief and necessarily under inclusive list of errors 
+and other problems follows. Chapter 4 of the Commission's overall 
+report provides a summary of the engineering, process, and management 
+decisions that led to the blowout. The Chief Counsel's report explains 
+these mistakes and others in greater detail.
+        1.  BP and the rig crew experienced difficulties drilling the 
+        well. When combined with earlier design decisions, these 
+        problems required them to plan a ``finesse'' cement job.
+        2.  The cement slurry that BP and Halliburton used was very 
+        likely unstable.
+        3.  BP and Halliburton did not adequately test the cement or 
+        review test results prior to pumping the cement.
+        4.  BP's temporary abandonment procedures called for the crew 
+        to unnecessarily underbalance the well and stress the cement 
+        without first installing additional static barriers.
+        5.  BP provided inadequately detailed procedures to the crew 
+        for temporary abandonment and negative testing, and provided 
+        them late, causing confusion.
+        6.  BP's well site leaders, in consultation with the Transocean 
+        rig crew, misinterpreted data from the negative pressure test.
+        7.  The rig crew and mudloggers missed several signs of the 
+        ``kick'' that became the blowout in the last hour before the 
+        blowout occurred.
+        8.  Once the blowout began, the rig crew did not immediately 
+        divert mud flow overboard and instead attempted to route flow 
+        through the mud-gas separator.
+ Question: Can you also describe any delays, errors or other problems 
+        associated with efforts to activate the BOP once it became 
+        clear that this was necessary (please only describe any 
+        problems that are separate and apart from BOP malfunctions)? 
+        Could any of these have impacted the likelihood of using the 
+        BOP to stop the explosion(s) on the Deepwater Horizon even if 
+        it had properly functioned?
+    Response: The Chief Counsel concluded that the crew first activated 
+an annular preventer in the BOP at best only moments before drilling 
+mud erupted onto the rig floor. By this time, gaseous and liquid 
+hydrocarbons had already passed the BOP rams and were in the riser. 
+Once those materials were in the riser, there was nothing the crew 
+could have done to prevent them from flowing to the surface. As gaseous 
+hydrocarbons flowed up through the mile of riser pipe, they expanded, 
+further increasing the speed and force of the blowout as they rose. 
+Accordingly, the Chief Counsel concluded that even if the BOP had 
+functioned flawlessly, the explosion would have occurred and eleven men 
+would have died. Put another way, the main problem associated with 
+activating the BOP was timeliness--the rig crew recognized signs of a 
+kick too late to use the BOP to prevent a blowout and an explosion.
+ Question: The Commission report concluded that safety problems in the 
+        oil and gas drilling sector are ``systemic'' in nature and not 
+        just associated with one company or group of companies.
+ Could you please provide me with some specific justifications for this 
+        conclusion?
+    Response: The Commissioner's conclusion concerning the systemic 
+nature of the problem was based on the nature of the mistakes that the 
+Commission found were the cause of the Macondo well blowout and rig 
+explosion as well as the identity of those making the mistakes. The 
+Commission did not discover one or two isolated mistakes but a pattern 
+of repeated mistakes in well drilling operations that revealed a 
+fundamental failure of risk management and safe drilling practices. 
+They included the largest operator of deepwater drills in the Gulf 
+(BP); the largest supplier of cement for all deepwater wells, not just 
+to BP but to all operations in the Gulf (Halliburton); and the largest 
+operator of deepwater drilling rigs in the Gulf that services not just 
+BP but all major operators (Transocean). In addition, the Commission 
+staff investigation revealed that BP was not the only company that had 
+failed to plan for a possible deepwater well blowout. BP did not 
+maintain resources adequate to contain and respond to such a blowout, 
+as promised by the oil spill response plans BP had submitted to the 
+government. None of the other oil companies was prepared for such a 
+blowout, notwithstanding their formal and repeated claims to the 
+government that they were prepared. Indeed, all of their oil spill 
+response plans were riddled with inaccuracies and false promises. It 
+was on this firm basis that the Commission concluded that the offshore 
+industry as a whole suffered from a culture of complacency that had 
+assumed away, rather than effectively planned for a possible deepwater 
+well blowout. Finally, the Commission concluded that the nature of the 
+problem was of such a nature that a ``systemic'' solution was needed to 
+ensure achievement by industry of safety in offshore drilling 
+operations.
+ Question: Did your meetings with foreign regulators or other entities 
+        that are familiar with safety or safety culture in other 
+        countries highlight differences between the safety of offshore 
+        drilling operations in the United States compared with other 
+        countries? If so, can you describe the key elements of what you 
+        were told that informed your views?
+    Response: Two key factors in particular influenced the Commission's 
+views. The first was that the same operators that were drilling in U.S. 
+waters were operating more safely in their drilling operations offshore 
+of other nations. They were successfully complying with pro-active risk 
+management approaches in other nations. The costs were not exorbitant 
+and better safety was apparently being achieved elsewhere. Second, the 
+Commission learned that other nations had prescriptive technical 
+standards for drilling safety not reflected in U.S standards. The 
+Commission saw no excuse for U.S. standards not to be at least as 
+demanding as what other nations applied and what the same companies 
+were already doing in those other nations to achieve regulatory 
+compliance.
+ Question: In arguing against the need for reform, the oil and gas 
+        industry and some Members of the Committee have asserted that 
+        the BP Deepwater Horizon disaster was an outlier and point to 
+        the long history of drilling offshore in the Gulf of Mexico.
+ Does the industry's record of drilling tens of thousands of wells 
+        offshore in the Gulf of Mexico mean that this was an isolated 
+        incident? Why or why not?
+    Response: The offshore drilling industry certainly deserves praise 
+for the lack of any major well blowout in the Gulf of Mexico in U.S 
+waters during the past several decades of exploration and production 
+there. As the Macondo well blowout demonstrates, however, one cannot 
+rely on a past record of safety when, as has occurred offshore in 
+recent years, the industry is moving to wells located in ever deeper 
+waters where the potential for recovery of increased volumes of oil and 
+gas is accompanied by significant increases in associated risk.
+ Question: What differences exist between drilling or responding to a 
+        blowout in shallow water verses in ultra-deep water where the 
+        Deepwater Horizon was operating? Please detail any added 
+        technical challenges and difficulties presented by deepwater 
+        drilling.
+    Response: Added water depth itself creates complications and risk 
+because of the lower temperatures and higher pressures exerted on 
+wellhead equipment and BOPs at those greater depths. For example:
+          In deeper water, rigs need to be larger with greater 
+        lifting capacity to manage heavy tubular (casing, riser, drill 
+        pipe).
+          Deeper water requires a longer riser pipe, which 
+        makes it more difficult to manage mud pressures and also makes 
+        it more dangerous when gas enters the riser.
+          Hydrates are also a more common problem in deepwater 
+        due to the seabed pressure-temperature relationships. This 
+        poses challenges in development and production, but also in 
+        well control.
+          Deepwater oil and gas reservoirs can have 
+        exceptionally high porosity and permeability. These 
+        characteristics promote productivity but also make well control 
+        more difficult and means that ``kicks'' (influx of oil and gas 
+        into the well bore) can be significant
+          In deepwater, the margins between pore pressure and 
+        fracture gradient are typically less than in shallow water. 
+        This leads to greater risks of taking a ``kick'' not just 
+        during drilling, but also during topping (pulling out of the 
+        hole).
+          Because the water is so deep, gas expansion of any 
+        kick is mostly in the riser and therefore above the BOP. This 
+        means that drillers must be attuned to subtle signs of an 
+        influx and shut in the well before hydrocarbons enter the 
+        riser. In shallow water, the expansion is mostly below the BOP.
+          Added water depth also increases the complexity of 
+        efforts to stop a blowout that is already in progress. For 
+        instance, BOP stacks are often on the surface in shallow wells, 
+        which means that repairs can be done above water. By contrast, 
+        BOPs in deep water wells can be a mile or more below the 
+        surface, meaning that all work must be done by Remote Operated 
+        Vehicles (ROVs). On the other hand, rigs and equipment can 
+        station themselves directly over a deepwater blowout, which has 
+        operational advantages, and cannot as readily do so in shallow 
+        waters because of the presence of hydrocarbons at the surface.
+          Deepwater wells tend to contain significantly larger 
+        volumes of oil and gas and consequently can be more productive, 
+        which also means that spills resulting from deepwater blowouts 
+        may potentially be larger. Good shallow wells produce at rates 
+        of a few thousand barrels of oil a day. By contrast, deepwater 
+        wells commonly produce more than 10,000 barrels per day.
+    For much of the nation's history offshore drilling occurred 
+exclusively in shallower waters, where the risks were generally lower. 
+During the last two decades, however, offshore drilling has 
+increasingly occurred in ever-deeper water, beginning with ``deep 
+waters'' (approximately 1,000-5000 feet) and now even ``ultra-deep 
+waters'' (more than 5,000 feet), where the amount of oil and gas can be 
+greater still. The Deepwater Horizon was operating at depths of 
+approximately 4,992 feet of water.
+    Chapter 2 of the Chief Counsel's report addresses these issues in 
+greater detail.
+ Question: On January 26th, I, along with several other House Members, 
+        introduced legislation, H.R. 501, to implement the 
+        recommendations of the National Commission on the BP Deepwater 
+        Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling. The legislation we 
+        introduced contains provisions designed to be consistent with 
+        the recommendations of the Commission. For each of the 
+        following provisions, please describe whether the legislation 
+        appears to be generally consistent with the recommendations the 
+        Commission has made to improve the safety of offshore drilling:
+        a.  Our legislation would reorganize the regulatory structure 
+        of the Department of the Interior to separate the offshore 
+        leasing, revenue collection, and environmental and safety 
+        review and enforcement functions. The legislation would also 
+        make the head of the safety agency a fixed-term appointee.
+        b.  The legislation would create a dedicated funding stream 
+        from oil and gas fees to fund the agencies responsible for 
+        regulating and overseeing the industry.
+        c.  The legislation would require the federal government to use 
+        sound science to properly estimate the potential worst-case 
+        spill scenarios and then requires industry's oil spill response 
+        plans to incorporate those worst-case scenarios into a 
+        realistic analysis of what could happen in the event of a 
+        catastrophic blowout.
+        d.  The legislation would establish a permanent scientific 
+        group to ensure that the government develops and maintains the 
+        extensive expertise needed to estimate the flow rate of oil 
+        from a spill.
+        e.  The legislation would dedicate 80 percent of the Clean 
+        Water Act fines and penalties to Gulf Coast restoration.
+        f.  The legislation would ensure that the National Oceanic and 
+        Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has a formal consultative 
+        role in the decision making process for where and how new 
+        drilling can occur so that the best possible science can be 
+        incorporated into the decision-making process. The Department 
+        of the Interior would have to respond in writing if it chose 
+        not to accept NOAA's recommendations.
+        g.  The legislation would create a dedicated funding stream 
+        from oil and gas fees to fund oil spill response research and 
+        development.
+        h.  The legislation would increase the per incident payout from 
+        the oil spill liability trust fund.
+        i.  The legislation would require strong new standards for 
+        blowout preventers, cementing and well-design.
+        j.  The legislation would require extensive study on the 
+        potential effects of dispersants on the marine environment.
+        k.  The legislation would protect whistleblowers from being 
+        retaliated against for reporting violations of oil and gas 
+        drilling safety laws and regulations.
+    Response: All of the above legislative proposals, if enacted, would 
+be consistent with the Commission's final report and recommendations.
+ Question: One of the Commission's findings is that federal oil and gas 
+        regulators have historically been underfunded and the 
+        Commission recommends creating a dedicated funding stream from 
+        increased oil and gas fees to fund the agencies responsible for 
+        overseeing and regulating the industry.
+ However, some have indicated a desire to reduce federal non-security 
+        spending levels across the board. In your opinion, would 
+        reducing rather than increasing funding for federal oil and gas 
+        regulators help or hurt our ability to ensure that offshore oil 
+        and gas drilling operations are safe?
+    Response: The Commission believes that increasing funding for oil 
+and gas regulators is essential to ensuring drilling safety and is 
+necessary to get the oil and gas industry fully back in operation in 
+the Gulf as expeditiously as possible.
+ Question: The Commission's recommendations note that historically most 
+        applications of the Natural Resource Damage Assessment process 
+        have focused on coastal restoration, as opposed to restoration 
+        in water column or on the sea floor. Would focusing primarily 
+        on coastal restoration be appropriate in this case? What 
+        suggestions do you offer for how to address the damage 
+        offshore, which the Commission notes is ``unprecedented and 
+        unknown''?
+    Response: The Commission recommends that restoration not be limited 
+to coastal restoration but also encompass the full marine environment 
+damaged by the Gulf spill, including the water column. To address this 
+need, the Commission recommends, among other things, longer term study 
+of those non-coastal adverse impacts and broader efforts at 
+implementing the Gulf Hypoxia Action Plan, utilizing marine spatial 
+planning, and providing for marine protected areas to conserve marine 
+biodiversity and to enhance the resilience of fish stocks.
+ Question: What are some of the challenges that would be associated 
+        with responding to an oil spill offshore in the Arctic, 
+        especially at certain times of the year when sea ice is 
+        present? Would effectively responding to a spill in the Arctic 
+        present greater challenges than responding to a spill in the 
+        Gulf of Mexico?
+    Response: As described in Chapter 10 of the Commission's final 
+report, three of the greatest challenges presented by the Arctic in 
+particular include: (1) the current lack of significant Coast Guard 
+resources in the Arctic or readily deployable there; (2) the presence 
+of ice during significant parts of the year, which would complicate 
+significantly and potentially delay effective containment and oil spill 
+response efforts; and (3) the absence of daylight during significant 
+parts of the year, which would hinder both containment and oil spill 
+response efforts. In at those three respects, the challenges would be 
+greater in the Arctic than in the Gulf. As described in Chapter 10, in 
+some respects there are fewer challenges. For instance, many of the 
+areas now under consideration for exploration and production in the 
+Arctic are located in shallow rather than deep or ultra deep waters as 
+in the Gulf.
+ Question: During the hearing, questions were raised regarding the 
+        expertise of the Commission members and its staff. Could you 
+        please describe a) the expertise and experience possessed by 
+        those responsible for conducting the Commission's technical 
+        work and writing those aspects of its report and b) the range 
+        of experts consulted by the Commission or its staff as it 
+        sought to develop its findings and recommendations?
+    Response: The Commission established a team of staff to investigate 
+the root causes of the Macondo well blowout with enormous technical and 
+legal expertise. That team was led by the Commission's Chief Counsel, 
+Fred Bartlit, and by the Commission's Chief Scientist, Richard Sears. 
+Bartlit is not only one of the nation's most highly regarded trial 
+lawyers, with deep professional roots with industry and a degree in 
+civil engineering from West Point, but he led for industry the 
+investigation of the Piper Alpha rig explosion in 1988, in which 167 
+people died in the North Sea. Bartlit is widely credited by industry 
+and government alike for the rigor and fairness of that investigation, 
+which successfully identified the root causes of the explosion. Richard 
+Sears is a petroleum engineer with over three decades of experience 
+with the oil and gas industry, having recently retired from Shell Oil. 
+Bartlit and Sears put together not only an in-house team within the 
+Commission staff, but also worked closely with experts in the oil and 
+gas industry itself, who were enormously cooperative in assisting the 
+Commission's work. The Commission's investigative team consulted with 
+industry and academic experts on virtually every aspect of deepwater 
+well drilling and fully vetted the investigation's findings with those 
+same experts. The best proof of the depth, scope, rigor, balance, and 
+fairness of that staff work is the recently-released Chief Counsel 
+Report to the Commission, which describes in exhaustive detail in 350 
+pages the engineering and management mistakes made that caused the well 
+blowout and rig explosion.
+Congressman Dale Kildee (MI-D)--Questions
+ Question: Your comments today and the findings of your report 
+        highlight the vital importance of the Gulf Coast ecosystem. Can 
+        you briefly tell us, in terms of natural, economic, and other 
+        resources, why this area and its fragile ecology are so 
+        significant to the region and to the nation at large?
+    Response: Chapter 6 of the Commission's final report best describes 
+the significance of the Gulf to the Gulf economy and environment, as 
+well as to the nation as a whole. In addition to the oil and gas 
+industry, the Gulf hosts the nation's largest seafood industry as well 
+as an enormously important and vital tourism and recreation industry. 
+As witnessed last summer, both those critical economies were devastated 
+by the spill and it is still unclear, almost eleven months later, the 
+extent to which they will have recovered this coming summer. Those who 
+live along the coast were especially hard struck, including many 
+vulnerable communities, not only in their livelihoods but in terms of 
+their mental and physical heath, by the spill. More than 650 miles of 
+Gulf coastal habitats--salt marsh, mudflat, mangroves, and sand 
+beaches--were oiled. Tidal mudflats are especially sensitive to oil 
+pollution and the Louisiana delta and the estuarine bays of Mississippi 
+and Alabama have large expanses of tidal mudflats, and support dense 
+populations of species. Salt marsh and mangroves are likewise both 
+highly productive and sensitive habitats highly vulnerable to oil 
+pollution.
+ Question: What would you say to the average American who sees the 
+        prices at the gas pump going up each week and may be reluctant 
+        for the government to apply additional regulations to gas and 
+        oil drilling companies?
+    Response: None of the Commission's recommendations should have a 
+significant impact on the price of gasoline. The primary factor in the 
+price of gasoline is the price of crude oil, which is set by the global 
+market. U.S. crude oil production currently accounts for roughly 10% of 
+total global production, and it is unlikely that small changes in U.S. 
+crude oil production could affect global prices. More importantly, our 
+recommendations are aimed at moving us forward to allow for the full 
+recovery of offshore operations in the Gulf. Improved drilling safety 
+could impose some upfront costs on oil and gas companies, but these 
+costs are small compared to the cost to industry of another major 
+blowout.
+ Question: Your report calls for the dedication of a significant 
+        portion of Clean Water Act penalties for restoration of the 
+        Gulf Coast's threatened ecosystem. Can you tell us more about 
+        the relationship between resiliency of the Gulf Coast ecosystem 
+        and your proposed use of these incident-specific spill-related 
+        funds?
+    Response: The Gulf is presently especially vulnerable to oil spills 
+because of the elimination of natural barriers, loss of land, 
+destruction of wetlands, and high concentrations of nutrients otherwise 
+threatening the viability of marine life within the Gulf. As a result 
+of these accumulating threats to the Gulf ecosystem, the harm caused by 
+a catastrophic oil spill can be much greater because, combined with 
+existing harm, the Gulf may lack the strength needed for recovery. It 
+is for this reason, that mitigation of the harm of future spills 
+warrants not just eliminating the incremental harm caused by the 
+Macondo well blowout, but building back the strength of the Gulf 
+ecosystem so as to be able to withstand future spills.
+ Question: Given that your report sites that ``since 2001, the Gulf of 
+        Mexico workforce--35,000 people, working on 90 big drilling 
+        rigs and 3,500 production platforms--has suffered 1,550 
+        injuries, 60 deaths, and 948 fires and explosions.'' Do you 
+        believe that the oil and gas industry is capable of regulating 
+        itself without additional government oversight?
+    Response: We think that safe drilling operations will require both 
+effective government and industry oversight. Neither can do it alone. 
+That is why the Commission recommends the creation of an independent 
+safety authority within the Department of the Interior. And that is why 
+the Commission further recommends that industry establish its own 
+independent, self-policing entity to oversee offshore drilling 
+operations, akin to what the nuclear power industry did in 1979 in the 
+immediate aftermath of the Three Mile Island Accident when industry 
+established the Institute of Nuclear Power Operations.
+ Question: Some experts have suggested that the Commission has drawn 
+        overly broad conclusions about the oil and gas industry's 
+        commitment to safety, based on the decisions on a single rig. 
+        How would you respond to this criticism?
+    Response: The Commissioner's conclusion concerning the systemic 
+nature of the problem was based on the nature of the mistakes that the 
+Commission found were the cause of the Macondo well blowout and rig 
+explosion and the identify of those making those mistakes. The 
+Commission did not discover one or two isolated mistakes but a pattern 
+of repeated mistakes in well drilling operations that revealed a 
+fundamental failure of risk management and safe drilling practices. In 
+addition, those making the mistakes were not just three insignificant 
+companies. They included the largest operator of deepwater drills in 
+the Gulf (BP); the largest supplier of cement for all deepwater wells, 
+not just to BP but to all operations in the Gulf (Halliburton); and the 
+largest operator of deepwater drilling rigs in the Gulf that services 
+not just BP but all major operators (Transocean). In addition, the 
+Commission staff investigation revealed that BP was not the only 
+company that had failed to plan for a possible deepwater well blowout; 
+BP did not maintain resources adequate to contain and respond to such a 
+blowout, as promised by the oil spill response plans BP had submitted 
+to the government. None of the other oil companies was prepared for 
+such a blowout, notwithstanding their formal and repeated claims to the 
+government that they were prepared. Indeed, all of their oil spill 
+response plans were riddled with inaccuracies and false promises. It 
+was on this firm basis that the Commission concluded that the offshore 
+industry as a whole suffered from a culture of complacency that had 
+assumed away, rather than effectively planned for a possible deepwater 
+well blowout. Finally, the Commission concluded that the nature of the 
+problem was of such a nature that a ``systemic'' solution was needed to 
+ensure achievement by industry of safety in offshore drilling 
+operations.
+ Question: I appreciate the fiscal logic of your recommendation that 
+        Clean Water Act penalty dollars be returned to revive the 
+        natural and economic resources of the Gulf Coast's wetlands. 
+        Can you summarize for us the reasons why that kind of funding 
+        is needed here, and what you expect it to accomplish?
+    Response: As described in Chapter 7 of the Commission's Final 
+Report, many have studied the current problems affecting the Gulf's 
+ecosystem and the central role it plays in the nation's economy and 
+there is no lack of understanding concerning the kind of steps now 
+needed to address those problems. The problem has not been lack of 
+understanding but lack of sufficient resources to commit to the 
+necessary measures. The estimated costs of such a restoration effort, 
+however, roughly mirror estimates of the amount of monies potentially 
+recoverable in Clean Water Act penalties from those private companies 
+responsible for the Gulf oil spill. Those penalties, accordingly, 
+provide an extraordinary opportunity for the Gulf and the nation to 
+undertake restorative measures of enormous value to the Gulf, the 
+nation, and current and future generations of Americans.
+ Question: In last night's SOTU address, the President talked about the 
+        need for investments in critical infrastructure for America's 
+        long-term economic health. Would your proposal to invest Clean 
+        Water Act penalties in Gulf Coast restoration offer this kind 
+        of necessary economic security?
+    Response: Yes, it would. The Gulf's ecosystem supports some of the 
+nation's most important economies.
+ Question: Recognizing the importance of the Gulf Coast ecosystem, many 
+        of us are hopeful that the Natural Resource Damages Assessment 
+        process will result in an aggressive response to some of the 
+        worst effects of the spill. How would your proposal for Clean 
+        Water penalties go beyond this NRDA response?
+    Response: It would go beyond because the NRDA is more limited in 
+its ability to extend beyond the immediate effects of the spill itself 
+and address the longer term and broader need to restore the overall 
+health of the Gulf's ecosystem, which has been threatened by many 
+activities in recent decades, including the Gulf's ability to withstand 
+future oil spills.
+Congresswoman Betty Sutton (OH-D)--Questions
+Question #1 (Questions on Culture of Worker Safety):
+        1.  In your report you suggested that the oil and gas industry 
+        should work to establish a ``Safety Institute'' similar to 
+        organizations in other high risk industries like the nuclear 
+        industry. By your recommendation, this would be an industry 
+        sponsored entity aimed at improving safety and operation 
+        standards in the offshore drilling industry.
+        2.  At the same time, you hint at the lack of a ``safety 
+        culture'' in this industry. You make some great 
+        recommendations, but there is a concern that industry will be 
+        slow to self-regulate and change long standing practices.
+        3.  Have you found the industry receptive in any way to your 
+        suggestions for forming a safety group?
+        4.  What obstacles exist to creating a culture of safety in the 
+        oil and gas industry?
+        5.  What are some of the concerns you've encountered or what 
+        might be done to encourage the establishment of a safety 
+        culture?
+    Response: The Commission has been encouraged in many private 
+conversations with leading industry officials that they are receptive 
+and ready to create such an industry self-policing entity and that many 
+recognize its value and importance. The greatest obstacle right now, 
+however, is that there still seem to be significant voices in industry 
+that have not reached that conclusion and seem open instead to seeing 
+if the current demands for safer drilling will naturally subside 
+without industry taking significant steps to reform drilling practices. 
+The Commission's related concern is that there appears to be a tendency 
+within the oil and gas industry, promoted by the American Petroleum 
+Institute, to be reflexively opposed to enhanced oversight measures and 
+a willingness to defer to ``average'' business practices rather than to 
+demand ``best'' drilling practices. It is not yet clear to the 
+Commission that those industry leaders who made clear that they share 
+the Commission's view of the existing problem and the need for industry 
+reform will be successful in moving the industry as a whole.
+Question #2 (Conflicts within Agencies Dealing with Drilling):
+        1.  In your report you hit on one of the major issues leading 
+        up to the oil spill, the conflicting mission of the Minerals 
+        Management Service. The report suggested the creation of an 
+        independent agency to oversee aspects of offshore drilling.
+        2.  Secretary Salazar recently announced two new independent 
+        agencies to carry on functions once assigned to MMS, one agency 
+        to deal with leasing and one agency to deal with safety issues.
+        3.  But even under these two new agencies the Bureau of Safety 
+        will still operate under the same assistant secretary who 
+        oversees leasing duties.
+        4.  How do these agencies line up with your recommendations?
+    Response: Much of what the Secretary is doing is fully consistent 
+with the Commission's recommendations. The Commission does, however, 
+believe that more is needed, including not having the two new agencies 
+operating under the same Assistant Secretary. In addition, the 
+Commission recommends a series of other steps to enhance the 
+independence of a new safety authority within Interior, including 
+having the head of that authority possess special engineering 
+credentials and experience and be appointed to a fixed term.
+        5.  What consequences do you foresee with the way Interior has 
+        moved forward in forming these new agencies?
+    Response: The risk of not making the new agency as autonomous as 
+the Commission recommends is that the new agency, especially after 
+there is less political attention paid over time to the risks of well 
+blowouts, will, as in the past, place greater weight on revenue 
+collection to the detriment of ensuring safe drilling operations.
+Congressman Jeff Landry (LA-R)--Questions
+ Question: Do you propose these recommendations from the report for 
+        both deep and shallow water drilling operations?
+    Response: The Commission's recommendations are not limited to 
+deepwater drilling. As a practical matter, however, the challenges and 
+associated risks of drilling are greater for deep water than they are 
+for shallower water, so the practical impact of the recommendations are 
+commensurately great for operations in deep water.
+ Question: Can you discuss what the economic impacts are on the nation 
+        as a whole in light of your recommendations in the report and 
+        the Obama Administration's response to permitting post-spill? 
+        Specifically, can you discuss what the International Energy 
+        Agency meant by it's anticipation of the U.S. needing an 
+        additional 300,000 barrels per day of imports by 2015 based on 
+        the ongoing permitorium and Interior Department actions?
+ What about the U.S.'s own Energy Information Administration's 
+        announcement that production in the Gulf would be down 220,000 
+        barrels per day in 2011 and 400,000 barrels per day by 2012 due 
+        to the permitorium. Can you please discuss those numbers, 
+        including what they mean for the Gulf economy, the U.S. 
+        economy, and our national security?
+    Response: The Commission is aware of the Energy Information 
+Administration and International Energy Agency analyses of the adverse 
+impact of the moratorium and permitting delays in the Gulf of Mexico on 
+U.S oil production. Indeed, precisely because the Commission was aware 
+of the significant associated costs of such delays on the nation's 
+energy supply and the national economy, the Commission made a series of 
+recommendations for the purpose of reducing permitting delays. Most 
+important, the Commission concluded that a significant cause of current 
+and potential future delays was a lack of sufficient funding for the 
+government agency, the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation 
+and Enforcement (the successor to the Minerals Management Service). 
+Absent the necessary resources, BOEMRE cannot process permit 
+applications as expeditiously as possible while ensuring drilling 
+safety and the impact on the nation's energy resources and economy may 
+well be even worse than projected by these two forecasts.
+    In particular, the Commission found that Congress had persistently 
+and increasingly underfunded the Minerals Management Service to meet 
+the challenges of the expanded activity in the Gulf. As offshore 
+activity dramatically increased during the 1990s, the Minerals 
+Management Service had increasingly-stretched budget resources 
+available and its ability to maintain the capacity necessary for safety 
+management and permitting suffered. The Commission, accordingly, 
+identified the need for new hiring authority to compete with other 
+employers for technical expertise as well as the budget certainty to 
+enable the agency to make the hiring and training commitments necessary 
+to accommodate the industry's permitting needs. Neither of these has 
+yet been provided. Until Congress provides those resources, the absence 
+of necessary government oversight will likely be the greatest source of 
+continuing permit delays.
+ Question: Other countries have determined that there was no need to 
+        shut down offshore production. In fact, African and South 
+        American countries are actively pursuing long-term contracts 
+        for rigs to move out of the Gulf. Including rigs from energy 
+        companies from the likes of Murphy Oil, BP, Anadarko and 
+        Statioil. How come the commission report did not discuss the 
+        loss of rigs in the Gulf and economic impacts long-term?
+    Response: The Commission report did not discuss the loss of rigs 
+and the economic impacts long term because the Commission concluded 
+that deepwater drilling could be done safely and economically in the 
+Gulf and sought to propose recommendations that would allow such 
+drilling to occur in a safe and expedited manner. The Commission, 
+accordingly, did not foresee a reason to assume that there would be a 
+long term loss of rigs in the Gulf.
+ Question: Due to a 2008 Bureau of Labor Statistics Report on Work 
+        Place injuries 89 percent of working Americans work in 
+        industries with higher injury rates than oil and gas 
+        extraction. So please explain why only commercial banking, 
+        insurance carriers and certified public accountants fare better 
+        and why child day-care services were twice as high as oil and 
+        gas extraction?
+ This BLS report goes on to state that a total of 120 fatal work 
+        injuries occurred in the oil and gas extraction industry in 
+        2008. The three most frequent fatal events in 2008 were 
+        transportation incidents (41 percent), contact with objects and 
+        equipment (25 percent), and fires and explosions (15 percent). 
+        The number of fatal work injuries associated with fires and 
+        explosions over the past five years ranged from 10 fatalities 
+        in 2007 to 21 fatalities in 2006. In 2008, there were 18 
+        fatalities. Why would the extraction portion of the industry be 
+        labeled by the Commission ``a systematic breakdown of safety 
+        and engineering practices'' when in 2008 41% of fatal work 
+        injuries happened in the Transportation sector of the industry?
+ Do you or don't you agree that without any further regulations the 
+        Offshore Oil and Gas industry is safer today then it was prior 
+        to the accident?
+    Response: In the immediate aftermath of an accident, it is 
+reasonable to assume that the offshore industry has on its own 
+initiative taken some measures to enhance safety by learning from the 
+specific mistakes made at the Macondo well and on the Deepwater Horizon 
+rig. The Commission's recommendations, however, seek to promote safety 
+far more by identifying the root causes, and thereby not just prevent a 
+repetition of the precise, same mistakes, and to create an 
+institutional structure for safety oversight within both government and 
+industry that will endure over the longer term, long after memories of 
+the BP Deepwater Horizon Gulf Spill begin inevitably to dim.
+ Question: The President charged this commission to determine the 
+        causes of the disaster, to improve the country's ability to 
+        respond to spills, and recommend reforms that make offshore 
+        energy production safer. Prior to the accident, there existed 
+        multiple layers of environmental reviews, including multiple 
+        EIS and EA's. These included EIS's during the development of 
+        the 5 year review and again prior to the lease sale. Where does 
+        the Commission receive both the authority and the conclusion 
+        that the NEPA review warrants any additional changes, as I find 
+        no conclusion that it contributed to the accident or to the 
+        impact of the clean up?
+    Response: Under the Executive Order that established the Oil Spill 
+Commission, the President specifically tasked the Commission with 
+suggesting improvements to Federal laws and regulations applicable to 
+offshore drilling that would prevent future spills and mitigate their 
+impact. Investigating the Department of the Interior and the Mineral 
+Management Service's application of NEPA for offshore oil and gas 
+development was an important part of this review because such NEPA 
+review is designed to ensure, among other things, that agency decision-
+making considers potential adverse environmental consequences, 
+including those resulting from oil spills conducted on federal 
+properties and supervised by federal agencies.
+Congressman Jeff Denham (CA-R)--Questions
+ Question: The report recommends that there needs to be the creation of 
+        a new government bureaucracy. How is it that the functions of 
+        this new agency can't be performed by the current massive [over 
+        sized] federal structure?
+        1.  Why can't the need for planning, coordination, execution, 
+        and clean up after a disaster fall under the jurisdiction of 
+        the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)?
+        2.  With better and more efficient government action couldn't 
+        the damages from an emergency be lessened?
+        3.  Isn't it necessary to reduce the bureaucratic red tape that 
+        prevents an overseeing agency, such as FEMA, from being allowed 
+        to take the lead role and manage the necessary actions 
+        following an incident?
+        4.  Wouldn't having one agency allowed to take the lead and 
+        coordinate eliminate the communication breakdown and resolve a 
+        need for an expansion of expensive and inefficient government?
+    Response: The Commission does not recommend the creation of a new 
+federal bureaucracy to plan, coordinate, or execute the response to an 
+offshore oil spill. Rather, the Commission recommends maintaining the 
+existing command structure, in which the Coast Guard takes the lead 
+role in responding to an offshore spill of oil or other hazardous 
+substances. The National Contingency Plan properly assigns this lead 
+role to the Coast Guard because of its expertise in the offshore and 
+marine environment. Reassigning that role to FEMA would ignore the 
+Coast Guard's decades of experience in oil spill response and planning, 
+and would require a significant and inefficient expansion of FEMA to 
+duplicate functions and expertise that already exist within the federal 
+government (indeed, within the same cabinet department).
+    The Commission agrees that ``better and more efficient government 
+action'' could lessen the damage caused by a major oil spill. As set 
+forth in the Commission's report, the response to the Deepwater Horizon 
+disaster revealed a series of deficiencies in government planning and 
+execution. Accordingly, the Commission recommends a series of steps 
+that the federal government could take, consistent with the existing 
+command structure, to better address the demands created by a spill of 
+national significance.
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