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+[House Hearing, 112 Congress] +[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] + + + + + FINAL REPORT OF THE PRESIDENT'S + + + NATIONAL COMMISSION ON THE + + + BP DEEPWATER HORIZON OIL + + + SPILL AND OFFSHORE DRILLING + +======================================================================= + + OVERSIGHT HEARING + + before the + + COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES + U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES + + ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS + + FIRST SESSION + + __________ + + Wednesday, January 26, 2011 + + __________ + + Serial No. 112-1 + + __________ + + Printed for the use of the Committee on Natural Resources + + + + Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/congress/ + index.html + or + Committee address: http://naturalresources.house.gov + + + + + U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE +63-876 WASHINGTON : 2009 +----------------------------------------------------------------------- +For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing +Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; DC +area (202) 512-1800 Fax: (202) 512-2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC +20402-0001 + + + COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES + + DOC HASTINGS, WA, Chairman + EDWARD J. MARKEY, MA, Ranking Democrat Member + +Don Young, AK Dale E. Kildee, MI +John J. Duncan, Jr., TN Peter A. DeFazio, OR +Louie Gohmert, TX Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, AS +Rob Bishop, UT Frank Pallone, Jr., NJ +Doug Lamborn, CO Grace F. Napolitano, CA +Robert J. Wittman, VA Rush D. Holt, NJ +Paul C. Broun, GA Raul M. Grijalva, AZ +John Fleming, LA Madeleine Z. Bordallo, GU +Mike Coffman, CO Jim Costa, CA +Tom McClintock, CA Dan Boren, OK +Glenn Thompson, PA Gregorio Kilili Camacho Sablan, +Jeff Denham, CA CNMI +Dan Benishek, MI Martin Heinrich, NM +David Rivera, FL Ben Ray Lujan, NM +Jeff Duncan, SC Donna M. Christensen, VI +Scott R. Tipton, CO John P. Sarbanes, MD +Paul A. Gosar, AZ Betty Sutton, OH +Raul R. Labrador, ID Niki Tsongas, MA +Kristi L. Noem, SD Pedro R. Pierluisi, PR +Steve Southerland II, FL John Garamendi, CA +Bill Flores, TX Colleen W. Hanabusa, HI +Andy Harris, MD +Jeffrey M. Landry, LA +Charles J. ``Chuck'' Fleischmann, + TN +Jon Runyan, NJ +Bill Johnson, OH + + Todd Young, Chief of Staff + Lisa Pittman, Chief Counsel + Jeffrey Duncan, Democrat Staff Director + Rick Healy, Democrat Chief Counsel + ------ + + CONTENTS + + ---------- + Page + +Hearing held on Wednesday, January 26, 2011...................... 1 + +Statement of Members: + Flores, Hon. Bill, a Representative in Congress from the + State of Texas, Prepared statement of...................... 52 + Hastings, Hon. Doc, a Representative in Congress from the + State of Washington........................................ 1 + Prepared statement of.................................... 3 + Holt, Hon. Rush D., a Representative in Congress from the + State of New Jersey, Prepared statement of................. 69 + Landry, Hon. Jeffrey M., a Representative in Congress from + the State of Louisiana, Prepared statement of.............. 70 + Markey, Hon. Edward J., a Representative in Congress from the + State of Massachusetts..................................... 4 + Prepared statement of.................................... 5 + Wittman, Hon. Robert J., a Representative in Congress from + the State of Virginia, Prepared statement of............... 70 + +Statement of Witnesses: + Graham, Hon. Bob, Senator, Co-Chairman, National Commission + on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling 9 + Prepared statement of.................................... 11 + Joint response to questions submitted for the record..... 71 + Reilly, Hon. William K., Former Administrator of the + Environmental Protection Agency, and Co-Chairman, National + Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and + Offshore Drilling.......................................... 7 + Prepared statement of.................................... 11 + Joint response to questions submitted for the record..... 71 + +Additional materials supplied: + Wall Street Journal editorial ``Gulf Political Spill'' dated + January 13, 2011, submitted for the record................. 66 + + + OVERSIGHT HEARING ON THE FINAL REPORT OF THE PRESIDENT'S NATIONAL +COMMISSION ON THE BP DEEPWATER HORIZON OIL SPILL AND OFFSHORE DRILLING. + + ---------- + + + Wednesday, January 26, 2011 + + U.S. House of Representatives + + Committee on Natural Resources + + Washington, D.C. + + ---------- + + The Committee met, pursuant to call, at 2:19 p.m., in Room +1324, Longworth House Office Building, Hon. Doc Hastings +[Chairman of the Committee] presiding. + Present: Representatives Hastings, Young, Bishop, Lamborn, +Wittman, Fleming, Coffman, McClintock, Thompson, Denham, +Benishek, Rivera, Duncan of South Carolina, Tipton, Gosar, +Labrador, Southerland, Flores, Harris, Landry, Fleischmann, +Runyan, Johnson, Markey, Pallone, Grijalva, Boren, Lujan, +Christensen, Sarbanes, Tsongas, and Hanabusa. + + STATEMENT OF THE HON. DOC HASTINGS, A REPRESENTATIVE IN + CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON + + The Chairman. The Committee on Natural Resources will come +to order. + The Committee is meeting today to hear testimony on the +report by the President's National Commission on the BP +Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling. + Under Committee Rule 4(f), any oral opening statements at +hearings are limited to the Chairman and the Ranking Minority +Member. This will allow us to hear from our witnesses sooner +and help keep Members on their schedules. If other Members have +statements, they can be included in the hearing record under +unanimous consent. + So I ask unanimous consent that all Members' opening day +statements be made a part of the hearing record if they are +submitted to the Chief Clerk by 5:00 p.m. today. Hearing no +objection, so ordered. + We have two witnesses today, and I will make the formal +introductions after our opening statements, but I am very +pleased that they are here. They are spending all day on the +Hill. The first part of the day was spent on the other side of +the Capitol, and now they are here, and I will welcome them +formally in a moment. + It has been 9 months since the horrific explosion and oil +spill in the Gulf of Mexico that resulted in the death of 11 +men and the burning and the sinking of the Deepwater Horizon. +Since then, nearly 5 million barrels of oil spilled into the +Gulf, resulting in the economic displacement of tens of +thousands of fishermen, tourist workers, and people connected +to the offshore energy industry. + The oil spill was a terrible tragedy and the effects are +still being felt today. As this Committee proceeds with its +oversight duties, we must be mindful of how we respond because +that response could significantly impact American energy policy +in the future. The response to this event could be the +difference between making offshore drilling the safest in the +world or locking up our resources, putting more Americans out +of work and further relying on foreign countries for our energy +needs. + It is because of these serious implications that I have +stressed from day one the need to have all of the facts and +information surrounding the cause of this incident before there +is a rush to judgment or a rush to legislate. When President +Obama announced that he was personally appointing an oil spill +commission, many in Congress and around the country were deeply +concerned with both the makeup and the mandate of the +Commission. + There were concerns that the President's Commission didn't +have enough experts in engineering or experience in the oil and +gas industry and that it was comprised of individuals who had +dedicated a significant portion of their career to opposing oil +and gas drilling. While understanding these concerns, I kept +and am keeping an open mind on the recommendations of the +President's Commission. + This is why this is the first scheduled Committee hearing +in this Congress, and I am anxious to hear from the Co-Chairs. +This report provides further insight into the accident and will +be a factor in Congress' discussions. However, even with the +Commission's report, we still don't know precisely what caused +the explosion or why the blowout preventer failed to work. Now, +there will be additional reports from the joint Coast Guard- +BOEM Marine Board hearings and the Chemical Safety Board +hearings. And hopefully they will provide answers to these +lingering questions among others. + Through this uncertainty, what I do know for sure is that +America needs American-made energy. We need to keep and create +American jobs. And we need to mitigate America's dependence on +foreign energy that threatens potentially our national +security. The oil spill, as I mentioned, was a terrible +tragedy, but it should not be used as an excuse to further +reduce America's access to our energy resources. + Some in Congress view this bill as an opportunity to shut +down offshore drilling. To me, that is not a solution. That is +giving up. Legislation aimed at this goal was introduced last +year and will predictably be proposed again in this Congress-- +this despite the strong support among the American people for +continued offshore energy productions. + Republicans want to make offshore energy drilling the +safest in the world. We believe in the need to make smart, +effective reforms that are centered on improving safety, +putting people back to work and allowing responsible drilling +to move forward. The right response to this bill is to focus on +making drilling safe, not impossible. + The importance of this Committee's future work cannot be +understated. Gas prices are steadily rising. Iran has assumed +the presidency of OPEC, and rigs are leaving the Gulf for +foreign countries like Cuba, Brazil and Mexico, taking American +jobs with them. This isn't speculation. It is happening. + My colleagues from the Gulf can attest to the real economic +pain being felt by people and businesses due to this +Administration's drilling moratorium. Production in the Gulf of +Mexico has already fallen by more than 200,000 barrels per day, +and it is predicted by the Energy Information Administration to +fall by more than 500,000 barrels per day by 2012. Every barrel +that we don't produce from the Gulf means more lost revenue to +the Federal Government, more lost jobs, and an additional +transfer of American wealth to hostile nations. + I believe in American ingenuity, and I know that we can get +this right. The answer is to address what went wrong and make +smart reforms and allow drilling to resume. The stakes are too +high to give up. Our economic competitiveness, American jobs, +and national security are on the line. + And with that, I recognize the distinguished Ranking +Member. + [The prepared statement of Chairman Hastings follows:] + + Statement of The Honorable Doc Hastings, Chairman, + Committee on Natural Resources + + It's been nine months since the horrific explosion and oil spill in +the Gulf of Mexico that resulted in the death of 11 men and the burning +and sinking of the Deepwater Horizon rig. Since then nearly five +million barrels of oil spilled into the Gulf; resulting in the economic +displacement of tens of thousands of fishermen, tourism workers, and +people connected to the offshore energy industry. + The oil spill was a terrible tragedy and the effects are still +being felt today. + As this Committee proceeds with its oversight duties, we must be +mindful of how we respond, because that response could significantly +impact American energy policy in the future. The response to this event +could be the difference between making offshore drilling the safest in +the world . . . or locking-up up our resources, putting more Americans +out of work, and further relying on foreign countries for our energy +needs. + It is because of these serious implications that I have stressed +from day one the need to have all the facts and information surrounding +the cause of this incident before there is a rush to judgment . . . or +a rush to legislate. + When President Obama announced that he was personally appointing an +Oil Spill Commission, many in Congress and around the country were +deeply concerned with both the make-up and mandate of the Commission. + There were concerns that the President's Commission didn't have +enough experts in engineering or experience in the oil and gas industry +and that it was comprised of individuals who had dedicated a +significant portion of their career to opposing oil and gas drilling. + While understanding these concerns, I kept, and am keeping, an open +mind on the recommendations of the President's Commission. This is why +it is the first scheduled Committee hearing of this Congress and I'm +eager to hear from its Co-Chairs. + This report provides further insight into the accident and will be +a factor in Congress' discussions. However, even with the Commission's +report, we still don't know precisely what caused the explosion, or why +the blowout preventer failed to work. + Additional reports from the joint Coast Guard-BOEM Marine Board +hearings and the Chemical Safety Board are forthcoming and I'm hopeful +they will provide answers to some of the lingering questions. + Through all this uncertainty, what I do know for sure is that +America needs American-made energy. + We need to keep and create American jobs. + And we need to mitigate America's dependence on foreign energy that +threatens our national security. + The oil spill was a terrible tragedy, but it should not be used as +an excuse to further reduce America's access to our energy resources. +Some in Congress view this spill as an opportunity to shut down +offshore drilling. That is not a solution . . . that is giving up. + Legislation aimed at this goal was introduced last year and will +predictably be proposed again this Congress. This despite the strong +support among the American people for continued offshore energy +production. + Republicans want to make offshore drilling the safest in the world. +We believe in the need to make smart, effective reforms that are +centered on improving safety, putting people back to work, and allowing +responsible drilling to move forward. The right response to this spill +is to focus on making drilling safe . . ., not making it impossible. + The importance of this Committee's future work cannot be +understated. Gas prices are steadily rising, . . . Iran has assumed the +Presidency of OPEC, . . . and rigs are leaving the Gulf for foreign +countries--like Cuba, Brazil and Mexico--taking American jobs with +them. This isn't speculation . . . it's happening. + My colleagues from the Gulf can attest to the real economic pain +being felt by people and businesses due to this Administration's +drilling moratorium. + Production in the Gulf of Mexico has already fallen by more than +200,000 barrels per day, and is predicted by the Energy Information +Administration to fall by more than 500,000 barrels per day by 2012. + Every barrel we don't produce from the Gulf means more lost revenue +to the federal government, more lost jobs, and an additional transfer +of American wealth to hostile nations. + I believe in American ingenuity and I know we can get this right. +The answer is to address what went wrong, make smart reforms and allow +drilling to resume. The stakes are too high to give up. Our economic +competitiveness, American jobs and natural security are on the line. + ______ + + + STATEMENT OF THE HON. ED MARKEY, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS + FROM THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS + + Mr. Markey. I thank the Chairman very much, and we thank +you. + And on behalf of the Democratic Members of the Committee, +please accept our sincere congratulations on your appointment +as Chairman. + We, on this side of the aisle, look forward to a productive +working relationship with you and with the majority, +occasionally punctuated by knockdown drag-out fights over +issues that we all care about deeply. + While I applaud the Chairman for holding this hearing +today, I am also deeply saddened that this hearing is +necessary. Industry and Federal regulators assured the American +public that a disaster like the BP Deepwater Horizon spill +could not happen. The events of last April and the subsequent +investigations have demonstrated that those assurances were +worthless. The American people are left to count the economic +and environmental costs and 11 families are left without their +loved ones. + It is vital to our Nation's energy future that we examine +the causes of this tragedy with clear eyes, assess the lessons +to be learned with open minds, and commit ourselves to +fundamental reform with firm resolve. + In the testimony submitted for this hearing, the Commission +Co-Chairmen--and we thank you both so much for your service to +our country--point out that ``the United States has the highest +reported rate of fatalities per hours worked in offshore oil +and gas drilling among its international peers.'' + Mr. Chairman, that shocking statistic does not mean that BP +or Transocean or Halliburton operate unsafely. It means that +the entire American offshore oil and gas industry operates +unsafely compared to its international peers. + To quote from our witnesses again: ``The central lesson to +be drawn from the catastrophe is that no less than an +overhauling of both current industry practices and government +oversight is now required.'' + Mr. Chairman, this is not a time for half measures or +tinkering around the edges. This is a time for bold reforms. +The lives lost and the damage done as a result of this tragedy +require nothing short of fundamental change in the way we +conduct the business of offshore oil and gas development and +production. + I am proud that Democrats in the House took a major step +toward such an overhaul by passing the Consolidated Land, +Energy and Aquatic Resources Act in the last Congress, known as +the CLEAR Act. The legislation included many of the +recommendations contained in the Commission's report. + While my colleagues on the Republican side may not have +liked all that was in that legislation, it is my hope that now +the Commission has made many of the same recommendations, that +we can work together in a bipartisan effort to craft new +legislation. + To that end, I have joined with Ranking Members Waxman and +Rahall, Miller and Johnson, along with Energy Ranking Member +Rush Holt and other Members to introduce new legislation +combining the best elements of the CLEAR Act with +recommendations from the Commission. We welcome review of that +legislation by the Commission and by our colleagues on both +sides of the aisle. + If we are shortsighted and complacent, today's hearing will +be an end. If we are visionary and engaged, today's hearing is +only the beginning of having America have the safest and most +productive oil and natural gas industry. That should be our +goal. And that is the goal I think every American should be +aiming to achieve in any legislation we pass. + In closing, again, let me offer my sincere gratitude to +Senator Graham; to you, Administrator Reilly; and to all of the +Commission members and the staff for their Herculean effort and +their willingness to take on this investigation and their +dedication to completing it in such a short period of time and +with such thoroughness. + This Committee and the American people are in your debt, +and I thank you for your efforts. And I thank the Chairman for +extending me those few extra seconds. + [The prepared statement of Mr. Markey follows:] + + Statement of The Honorable Edward J. Markey, Ranking Member, + Committee on Natural Resources + + Thank you Chairman Hastings and on behalf of the Democratic members +of the Committee, please accept our sincere congratulations on your +appointment as Chairman. We on this side of the aisle look forward to a +productive working relationship--punctuated by knock-down, drag-out +fights over issues we all care about deeply. + While I applaud the Chairman for holding this hearing today, I am +also deeply saddened that this hearing is necessary. Industry and +federal regulators assured the American public that a disaster like the +BP Deepwater Horizon spill could not happen. + The events of last April and the subsequent investigations have +demonstrated that those assurances were worthless. The American people +are left to count the economic and environmental costs and eleven +families are left without their loved ones. + It is vital to our nation's energy future that we examine the +causes of this tragedy with clear eyes, assess the lessons to be +learned with open minds, and commit ourselves to fundamental reform +with firm resolve. + In the testimony submitted for this hearing, the Commission Co- +Chairmen point out that, ``the United States has the highest reported +rate of fatalities per hours worked in offshore oil and gas drilling +among its international peers.'' + Mr. Chairman, that shocking statistic does not mean that BP or +Transocean or Halliburton operate unsafely; it means that the entire +American offshore oil and gas industry operates unsafely, compared to +its international peers. + To quote from our witnesses again, ``the central lesson to be drawn +from the catastrophe is that no less than an overhauling of both +current industry practices and government oversight is now required.'' + Mr. Chairman, this is not a time for half measures or tinkering +around the edges; this is a time for bold reforms. The lives lost and +the damage done as a result of this tragedy require nothing short of +fundamental change in the way we conduct the business of offshore oil +and gas development and production. + I am proud that Democrats in the House took a major step toward +such an overhaul by passing the Consolidated Land, Energy, and Aquatic +Resources Act in the last Congress. Known as the CLEAR Act, that +legislation included many of the recommendations contained in the +Commission's report. + While my colleagues on the Republican side opposed that effort, it +is my hope that, now that the Commission has made many of the same +recommendations, we can work together in a bipartisan effort to craft +new legislation. To that end, I have joined Ranking Members Waxman, +Rahall, Miller, and Johnson, along with Energy Subcommittee Ranking +Member Holt and other Members, to introduce new legislation combining +the best elements of the CLEAR Act with recommendations from the +Commission. We welcome review of our legislation by the Commission and +by our colleagues on both sides of the aisle. + If we are shortsighted and complacent, today's hearing will be an +end. If we are visionary and engaged, today's hearing is only the +beginning. + In closing, let me offer my sincere gratitude to Senator Graham, +Mr. Reilly, and all the Commission members and staff for their +willingness to take on this investigation and their dedication in +completing it so thoroughly. This committee and the American people are +in your debt. + ______ + + The Chairman. I thank the gentleman. + And I thank the gentleman for his opening comments. I, too, +look forward to working with you. And I want to welcome the two +witnesses here today. I know that since this event happened and +since the appointment of the Commission, there is a lot of work +done by both of you. + The Honorable Bill Reilly is a former Administrator of the +EPA and, of course, on the Hill people do remember the Florida +Senator, Bob Graham, and former Governor, if I am not mistaken, +of the State of Florida. So certainly there is expertise. + So, with that, I would just remind you that under Committee +rules, you have 5 minutes for your oral testimony. However, +your full statement will appear in the record. + You note that over here, we have these little boxes that +have green lights, yellow lights and red lights. When the red +light comes on, you know you are at 5 minutes. When the yellow +light is on, you are up to 4.5 minutes and you have 30 seconds. + With that, we will allow both of you to testify and then we +will open up to questions to an eager Committee that wants to +talk. + So, with that, I will first introduce Mr. Reilly. Mr. +Reilly, you are on. + + STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE WILLIAM K. REILLY, FORMER + ADMINISTRATOR OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, CO- + CHAIRMAN, NATIONAL COMMISSION ON THE BP DEEPWATER HORIZON OIL + SPILL AND OFFSHORE DRILLING + + Mr. Reilly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member Markey, +members of the Committee, it is a privilege and an honor for us +to appear before you as it has been for us to serve on this +Commission, particularly for me to serve with my distinguished +friend and long time, long time friend and colleague, Bob +Graham. I will make a brief statement and ask that my testimony +be included in the record. + I want to begin by saying that with respect to oil and gas, +we need the resource. It is vital to the economy, to our +mobility, to our way of life. It is itself, the oil and gas +industry, a significant contributor to productivity, to jobs, +to our GDP and to avoiding even more necessity to import from +the international oil market. + This Commission believes that we can develop offshore oil +and gas resources safely; we can do it in the deep water, and I +would signal that the deep water is where it is. That is where +the industry has been going and will be going in an even more +significant way in the years to come. + But the country's confidence in offshore oil and gas +development has been shattered. The Commission determined that +the government and industry both were characterized by an aura +of complacency. That has attracted a good deal of attention and +some criticism. I would just say very briefly that, as I +learned from Tony Hayward, the CEO of BP, the week after I took +office as Commission Co-Chairman, when you learn from him that +there is effectively no subsea containment technology or +capability, when you look at response plans that talk about +protecting walruses in the Gulf of Mexico, when you see the +wholly inadequate response technology that has not evolved +since I oversaw it 20 years before in Prince William Sound, and +when you see that there have been 79 instances of loss of well +control between 1996 and 2009 in the Gulf and that we have, as +was mentioned, a fatality rate that is 5 times that of the +North Sea in a much more punishing environment--and then +finally that you have key omnipresent contractors who are +deeply implicated in the bad decisions that contributed to the +high risk that we uncovered--you have to conclude both that +there was an aura of complacency--and so many industry leaders +have said, which I would have said myself, we didn't think this +was possible, and we didn't think this could happen--but also +that contractors who have supplied faulty cement to a BP rig or +who have failed to detect gas rising in the drill pipe on a BP +rig, it is inconceivable given their presence in all of the +oceans in the world where oil and gas are developed, it is +inconceivable to us that this would only have been confined to +one company, to a rogue company, which was my own conviction, +my own premise starting out. + So we did conclude this is a systemic problem that has been +characterized by an atmosphere of complacency. + I want to signal one more thing and that is the history of +the budget of the government regulatory agency of which we are +quite hard, we are quite critical of its effectiveness, its +capability, its lack of professionalism, to carry out the +assignment that the law gives it to monitor and control and +regulate this industry. The budget for MMS, the predecessor to +the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and +Enforcement (BOEMRE), has gone down 20 percent since 1984, +while offshore oil and gas production has tripled. + So to address these issues, we have three principal +proposals: First is for a safety authority within the Interior +Department entirely walled off from political interference with +a Director appointed for a term much like the FBI Director and +adequately resourced and budgeted, provided for. + We recommend that industry establish a safety institute. +The high-risk industries that have had catastrophes have +learned from them: The chemical industry after Bhopal with +Responsible Care and the nuclear industry after Three Mile +Island with the Institute for Nuclear Power Operations (INPO). +Those should be focused on best practice and should bring up +the game for everybody and allow the best companies to have +some means of ensuring that one laggard company, one bad +performer does not bring everybody down and cause all their +rigs to be shut down in the Gulf, as was the case last summer. + Finally, I just want to signal the international dimensions +of our issue. If you look at a map of the Gulf of Mexico, the +United States has sovereign jurisdiction over far less than all +of it. We now know Mexico intends to go into deep water in two +years, Cuba within the next year or two, and we need some kind +of international understanding or treaty with respect to the +standards that will apply to those activities. + We also need it in the Arctic, where Russia is intending to +go into its Arctic waters with BP and Rosneft. Canada. Denmark +has already begun, and Greenland last summer. We need the same +kind of attention on the part of our State Department to ensure +that the Arctic waters are given the kind of special protection +that they deserve. We make a number of recommendations +particularly relevant to science and the science that is needed +to pursue oil and gas development in those very different +waters with all of the high risks that special storm action, +fog and deep cold entail. + Well, those are some of the principal recommendations I +wanted to cover, Mr. Chairman. I would only say that they are +relatively modest in my view, in terms, both of money, +certainly in terms of bureaucracy and disruption. To reorganize +the Interior Department will not take much in the way of money. +To budget adequately the BOEMRE, it will take some, but it is +relatively small in lieu of both the huge cost of the accident +we just experienced and the overall revenues that the United +States receives from offshore oil and gas development leases +and royalties. I think it is money that would be well invested, +and we look forward to your questions and recognize that from +the point of view of the Commission, we are just about done. So +it really is over to you. + Thank you, sir. + The Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Reilly. I appreciate very much +your testimony. + Senator Graham, you are on. + + STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE BOB GRAHAM, SENATOR, CO-CHAIRMAN, + NATIONAL COMMISSION ON THE BP DEEPWATER HORIZON OIL SPILL AND + OFFSHORE DRILLING + + Mr. Graham. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, Ranking +Member Markey and other members of this Committee. + And I know many of you are commencing your service in +Congress, and let me extend my congratulations. You are +beginning a journey which will have immense gratification and +personal pleasure. I congratulate you and wish you well in your +service. + Mr. Chairman, our Commission was established in May of last +year. We were given three responsibilities: First was to +determine the cause of the Deepwater Horizon explosion; second, +to evaluate the response to that disaster; and third to advise +the Nation about future energy exploration, particularly in the +offshore environment. + On January 11th, we submitted our report, called ``Deep +Water: The Gulf Oil Disaster and the Future of Offshore +Drilling.'' We had been initially subject to some criticism. +One was that we lacked independence. In the course of our +investigation, we were able to make just about everybody mad at +us. From time to time, the industry was mad, and the White +House was mad. Maybe this Committee escaped that. I believe we +established the fact that we were looking at this from the +perspective of the American people's interest and none other. + Second, there was some criticism that we weren't competent +to carry out this task. It would be immodest to try to defend +our competency. I would just submit our report, its findings +and recommendations, and you can evaluate whether you think +that we had the skills, both among the seven commissioners and +in an excellent staff led by Mr. Richard Lazarus, who gave us +tremendous support throughout this endeavor. + I would like to make one general comment before I turn to +the two areas that I am particularly going to discuss, and that +is that there is a difference in the offshore of the Gulf from +what we knnw well, which is onshore oil and gas production. +Onshore oil and gas production is a combination of drilling on +privately owned land and public land. All of the drilling in +the Gulf of Mexico is on publicly owned land, land which +belongs to the people of the United States of America. + So I think the way to look at this is not just as a +regulator, a government regulating a private enterprise going +about its private business. We also are in the role of a +landlord. We have an obligation to protect this asset that +belongs to all of the people of America and to be able to +continue to draw upon it for a variety of purposes. Yes, +energy, but also it is a major source of American seafood, and +it is one of our major tourist areas, just to mention three of +the benefits that we derive from the Gulf. So are we fulfilling +our responsibility to be a prudent landlord? + I am going to discuss the area of response and containment +and then the issue of, where do we go from here in terms of +restoration of the Gulf? + My good friend, Bill Reilly, has already mentioned that the +response to this event was, to say the least, very +disappointing. Although there were some respondents who acted +quickly, some heroically, the Commission concluded that neither +BP nor the Federal Government was prepared to conduct an +effective response. There was a failure to plan in advance for +such an event, a failure to coordinate, particularly between +Federal agencies and State and local officials. In addition, +neither the industry nor the Federal Government had invested in +the research to understand in an anticipatory way what we would +be facing if we had such an event as the Macondo blowout. + Much of the technology that we were able to bring to this +problem was the same technology that had been used 20 years +earlier in the Exxon Valdez, which is to say there was almost +no technological advances taken as a result of the experience +of Exxon Valdez. + We have made a number of recommendations on response and +containment, including that the Department of the Interior, in +consultation with other agencies, should develop a more +rigorous set of requirements for industry response plans. No +more polar bears or walruses in the response plans for the Gulf +of Mexico. + The EPA and the Coast Guard should involve State and local +governments as significant players; the Congress should provide +adequate and sustained funding for oil spills, including and +particularly research into how to mitigate oil spills; and the +industry should fund a private organization to develop, adopt +and enforce standards of excellence to assure continuous +improvement in the technology for oil spill response. + The second area is restoration. The day before this event +was April 19, 2010. If we define our goal as being to restore +the Gulf to the condition that it was in on April 19th, we have +missed an enormous opportunity. Frankly, the Gulf on April 19th +was a degraded area. It had suffered from decades of misuse and +most dramatically shown by the marshes of Louisiana, which have +been receding at a rate of over one football field every 30 +minutes. + We felt that this was a chance to begin a major process of +restoring this very important part of our Nation. We have +recommended that 80 percent of the fines and penalties that we +anticipate will be assessed under the Clean Water Act be +directed at Gulf restoration. That will require your approval. +Only Congress can make that commitment of those fines and +penalties. But we believe that it would be money well spent. + We recognize that it will require a significant amount of +time, probably in the range of 20 to 30 years, to complete an +effective restoration. We believe that these funds would be the +basis of a major down payment toward that objective. + I would like to conclude my remarks--and I got the signal, +Mr. Chairman--that drilling is inherently risky. We can never +reduce it to zero. But we believe the steps that we have +recommended will substantially reduce the probabilities of a +repeat Macondo and, should that happen, will significantly +enhance our capacity to restrain its consequences. + Mr. Chairman, I will submit my full report. I appreciate +your willingness to receive it. I look forward to responding to +your questions. + [The joint prepared statement of Mr. Reilly and Senator +Graham follows:] + +Statement of The Honorable Bob Graham and The Honorable William Reilly, +Co-Chairmen, National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill + and Offshore Drilling + +I. Introduction + Chairman Hastings, Ranking Member Markey, and members of the +Committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today on behalf of +the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and +Offshore Drilling. + The explosion that tore through the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig +last April 20, as the rig's crew completed drilling the exploratory +Macondo well deep under the waters of the Gulf of Mexico, began a +human, economic, and environmental disaster. + Eleven crew members died, and others were seriously injured, as +fire engulfed and ultimately destroyed the rig. And, although the +nation would not know the full scope of the disaster for weeks, the +first of more than four million barrels of oil began gushing +uncontrolled into the Gulf--threatening livelihoods, the health of Gulf +coast residents and of those responding to the spill, precious +habitats, and even a unique way of life. A treasured American +landscape, already battered and degraded from years of mismanagement, +faced yet another blow as the oil spread and washed ashore. Five years +after Hurricane Katrina, the nation was again transfixed, seemingly +helpless, as this new tragedy unfolded in the Gulf. The costs from this +one industrial accident are not yet fully counted, but it is already +clear that the impacts on the region's natural systems and people were +enormous, and that economic losses total tens of billions of dollars. + On May 22, 2010, President Barack Obama announced the creation of +the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and +Offshore Drilling (the ``Commission''): an independent, nonpartisan +entity, directed to provide thorough analysis and impartial judgment. +The President charged the Commission to determine the causes of the +disaster, and to improve the country's ability to respond to spills, +and to recommend reforms to make offshore energy production safer. And +the President said we were to follow the facts wherever they led. + This Commission report (the ``Report''), which we ask be made part +of the hearing record in its entirety, is the result of an intense six- +month effort to fulfill the President's charge. As a result of our +investigation, we conclude: +The explosive loss of the Macondo well could have + been prevented. + The immediate causes of the Macondo well blowout can + be traced to a series of identifiable mistakes made by BP, + Halliburton, and Transocean that reveal such systematic + failures in risk management that they place in doubt the safety + culture of the entire industry. + Deepwater energy exploration and production, + particularly at the frontiers of experience, involve risks for + which neither industry nor government has been adequately + prepared, but for which they can and must be prepared in the + future. + To assure human safety and environmental protection, + regulatory oversight of leasing, energy exploration, and + production require reforms even beyond those significant + reforms already initiated since the Deepwater Horizon disaster. + Fundamental reform will be needed in both the structure of + those in charge of regulatory oversight and their internal + decision-making process to ensure their political autonomy, + technical expertise, and their full consideration of + environmental protection concerns. + Because regulatory oversight alone will not be + sufficient to ensure adequate safety, the oil and gas industry + will need to take its own, unilateral steps to increase + dramatically safety throughout the industry, including self- + policing mechanisms that supplement governmental enforcement. + The technology, laws and regulations, and practices + for containing, responding to, and cleaning up spills lag + behind the real risks associated with deepwater drilling into + large, high-pressure reservoirs of oil and gas located far + offshore and thousands of feet below the ocean's surface. + Government must close the existing gap and industry must + support rather than resist that effort. + Scientific understanding of environmental conditions + in sensitive environments in deep Gulf waters, along the + region's coastal habitats, and in areas proposed for more + drilling, such as the Arctic, is inadequate. The same is true + of the human and natural impacts of oil spills. + We reach these conclusions, and make necessary recommendations, in +a constructive spirit: we aim to promote changes that will make +American offshore energy exploration and production far safer, today +and in the future. +II. The Root Causes of the Explosion + The Commission examined in great detail what went wrong on the rig +itself. Our investigative staff uncovered a wealth of specific +information that greatly enhances our understanding of the factors that +led to the explosion. The results of that investigation are described +in detail in Chapter 4 of the Report. The separate report of the chief +counsel, to be published soon, will offer the fullest account yet of +what happened on the rig and why. There are recurring themes of missed +warning signals, failure to share information, and a general lack of +appreciation for the risks involved. In the view of the Commission, +these findings highlight the importance of organizational culture and a +consistent commitment to safety by industry, from the highest +management levels on down. + To summarize, the Macondo blowout happened because a number of +separate risk factors, oversights, and outright mistakes combined to +overwhelm the safeguards--promised by both government and by private +industry--to prevent just such an event from happening. But most of the +mistakes and oversights at Macondo can be traced back to a single +overarching failure--a failure of management by BP, Halliburton and +Transocean. Set out below are what Commission investigative staff +determined were ``key facts.'' + Key Facts: The investigation team identified several key human +errors, engineering mistakes and management failures including: + A flawed design for the cement slurry used to seal + the bottom of the well, which was developed without adequate + engineering review or operator supervision; + A ``negative pressure test,'' conducted to evaluate + the cement seal at the bottom of the well, identified a + cementing failure but was incorrectly judged a success because + of insufficiently rigorous test procedures and inadequate + training of key personnel; + Flawed procedures for securing the well that called + for unnecessarily removing drilling mud from the wellbore. If + left in place, that drilling mud would have helped prevent + hydrocarbons from entering the well and causing the blowout; + Apparent inattention to key initial signals of the + impending blowout; and + An ineffective response to the blowout once it began, + including but not limited to a failure of the rig's blowout + preventer to close off the well. + Key Findings: The ``key facts'' led investigators to make the +following ``key findings'': + Errors and misjudgments by at least three companies-- + BP, Halliburton and Transocean--contributed to the disaster. + Management failures included: + Inadequate training of key personnel. + Inadequate management of numerous late-stage well + design decisions. + Poor communication within and between the companies + involved. + Inadequate risk evaluation and risk mitigation + measures. + The disaster could have been prevented. Notably, + workers on the rig incorrectly interpreted clear warning signs + of a hydrocarbon influx during the negative pressure test. If + recognized, those warning signs would have allowed them to shut + in the well before the blowout began. + Government regulations did not address several key + causes of the blowout, and regulators lacked the resources or + technical expertise to address others. + Whether purposeful or not, many of the risk-enhancing + decisions that BP, Halliburton, and Transocean made saved those + companies significant time (and money). + The Commission's investigation concludes that these failures were +preventable. Errors and misjudgments by at least three companies--BP, +Halliburton and Transocean--contributed to the disaster. Federal +regulations did not address many of the key issues. For example, no +regulation specified basic procedures for the negative pressure test +used to evaluate the cement seal or minimum criteria for test success. +The chapter also notes that, '' . . . whether purposeful or not, many +of the decisions that BP, Halliburton, and Transocean made that +increased the risk of the Macondo blowout clearly saved those companies +significant time (and money).'' + Attached to this testimony is a table that sets out decisions that +increased risk at Macondo, while potentially saving time. +III. Regulatory Oversight and the Need for Reform +Regulatory Oversight + The responsibilities assigned to the Minerals Management Services +(MMS) in an effort to regulate the offshore oil and gas industry have +created conflicts of interest and have been subject to pressure from +political and industry interests. MMS was not only responsible for +offshore leasing and resource management; it also collected and +disbursed revenues from offshore leasing, conducted environmental +reviews, reviewed plans and issued permits, conducted audits and +inspections, and enforced safety and environmental regulations. + Over the course of many years, political pressure generated by a +demand for lease revenues and industry pressure to expand access and +expedite permit approvals and other regulatory processes often combined +to push MMS to elevate revenue and permitting goals over safety and +environmental goals. As a result, the safety of U.S. offshore workers +has suffered. The United States has the highest reported rate of +fatalities per hours worked in offshore oil and gas drilling among its +international peers (the U.K., Norway, Canada, and Australia) but has +the lowest reporting of injuries. This striking contrast suggests a +significant under-reporting of injuries in the United States. + These problems were compounded by an outdated organizational +structure, a chronic shortage of resources, a lack of sufficient +technological expertise, and the inherent difficulty of coordinating +effectively with all of the other government agencies that have had +statutory responsibility for some aspect of offshore oil and gas +activities. Besides MMS, the Departments of Transportation, Commerce, +Defense, and Homeland Security, and the Environmental Protection Agency +(EPA) were involved in some aspect of the industry and its many-faceted +facilities and operations, from workers on production platforms to +pipelines, helicopters, drilling rigs, and supply vessels. +Reorganization Needed + To remedy this conflict of interest, Congress should create an +independent agency with enforcement authority to oversee all aspects of +offshore drilling safety (operational and occupational) as well as the +structural and operational integrity of all offshore energy production +facilities, including both oil and gas production and renewable energy +production. The roles and responsibilities of BOEMRE should be +separated into three entities with clearly defined statutory +authorities. + (1) The Offshore Safety Authority would have primary statutory + responsibility for overseeing the structural and operational + integrity of all offshore energy-related facilities and + activities, including both oil and gas offshore drilling and + renewable energy facilities. Congress should enact an organic + act to establish its authorities and responsibilities, + consolidating the various responsibilities now under the OCSLA, + the Pipeline Safety Act, and Coast Guard authorizations. This + should include responsibility for all workers in energy related + offshore activities. + (2) The Leasing and Environmental Science Office would be + charged with fostering environmentally responsible and + efficient development of the Outer Continental Shelf, and would + act as the leasing and resource manager for conventional + renewable energy and other mineral resources on the OCS. The + Office would also be responsible for conducting reviews under + the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA). + (3) The Office of Natural Resources Revenue would be + responsible for revenue collection and auditing. + Congress should review and consider amending where necessary the +governing statutes for all agencies involved in offshore activities to +be consistent with the responsibilities functionally assigned to those +agencies. The safety-related responsibilities of the new offshore +safety agency should be included in a separate statute. + Since the Commission issued its final report on January 11th, +Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar has already announced changes in +the organization within Interior that reflect many of the Commission's +recommendations. Other Commission recommendations will require +congressional action, especially those recommendations that seek to +promote the independence of the Offshore Safety Authority from +politics. For instance, the Commission recommends that the head of the +Safety Authority be appointed to a fixed term that cuts across any one +Presidential Administration, a change that can be accomplished most +effectively only by statute. +Regulation to Better Manage Risk + The Commission also recommends a more comprehensive overhaul of +both the leasing program and the regulatory policies and institutions +used to oversee the safety and environmental protection of offshore +activities. The goals must be to reduce and manage risk more +effectively, using strategies that can keep pace with a technologically +complex and rapidly evolving industry, particularly in high-risk and +frontier areas, and to secure the resources needed to execute the +leasing function and provide adequate regulatory oversight. To +accomplish these goals the Commission offers the following three +recommendations: + The DOI should promulgate prescriptive safety and + pollution-prevention standards that are developed and selected + in consultation with international regulatory peers and that + are at least as rigorous as the leasing terms and regulatory + requirements of peer oil-producing nations. + The Department of the Interior (DOI) should develop a + proactive, risk-based performance approach specific to + individual facilities, operations, and environments, similar to + the ``safety case'' approach in the North Sea which requires + drilling rigs to be certified and have safety management + obligations separate and apart from the operator. + Working with the International Regulators' Forum and + other organizations, Congress and the DOI should identify those + drilling, production, and emergency-response standards that + best protect offshore workers and the environment, and initiate + new standards and revisions to fill gaps and correct + deficiencies. These standards should be applied throughout the + Gulf of Mexico, in the Arctic, and globally wherever the + international industry operates. Standards should be updated at + least every five years, as under the formal review process of + the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). (See + below for expansion on the development of international + regulations.) + BOEMRE currently relies heavily on prescriptive regulations +incorporating a number of industry technical standards. Prescriptive +regulations must be the basis of an effective regulatory system, but +given the many variables in deepwater drilling, prescriptive rules can +never cover all cases. The federal agency responsible for offshore +activity must have a regulatory approach that integrates more +sophisticated risk assessment and risk management practices into its +oversight of energy developers operating offshore. The focus should +shift from prescriptive regulations covering only the operator to a +foundation of augmented prescriptive regulations, including those +relating to well design and integrity, supplemented by a proactive, +risk-based performance approach that is specific to individual +facilities (production platforms and drilling rigs), operations, and +environments. Both the operator and the drilling rig owners would have +a legal duty to assess and manage the risks of a specific activity by +engaging all contractors and subcontractors in a coordinated safety +management system. + To ensure that Interior has the ability to provide adequate leasing +capabilities and regulatory oversight for the increasingly complex +energy-related activities being undertaken on the OCS, budgets for +these new offices as well as existing agencies should come directly +from fees paid by the offshore industry, akin to how fees charged to +the telecommunications industry pay for the expenses of the Federal +Communications Commission, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the +Office of Pipeline Safety which are essentially fully funded by such +regulated industry payments. Through this mechanism, Congress, through +legislation, and DOI, through lease provisions, could expressly oblige +lessees to fund the regulation necessary to allow for private industry +access to the energy resources on the OCS, including renewables. +IV. Environmental Review + As part of its inquiry into the existing regulatory structure for +offshore drilling, the Commission reviewed existing mechanisms for +protecting the environment. In its work on this question, the +Commission focused on two issues: (1) the application of National +Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) requirements to the offshore leasing +process and (2) the need for better science and greater interagency +consultation to improve decision-making related to management of +offshore resources. +NEPA + Based on the Commission's review of leasing and permitting +processes in the Gulf of Mexico before the Deepwater Horizon incident, +the Commission concluded that the breakdown of the environmental review +process for OCS activities was systemic and that Interior's historical +approach to the application of NEPA requirements for offshore oil and +gas activities needs significant revision. In particular, the +application of tiering, use of categorical exclusions, the practice of +area-wide leasing, and failure to develop formal NEPA guidance all +contributed to this breakdown. The Commission recommends that the +Council on Environmental Quality and the Department of the Interior +revise and strengthen the NEPA policies, practices, and procedures to +improve the level of environmental analysis, transparency, and +consistency at all stages of the OCS planning, leasing, exploration, +and development process. +Improved Interagency Consultation and Environmental Science + Under OCSLA, it is up to the Secretary of the Interior to choose +the proper balance between environmental protection and resource +development. In making leasing decisions, the Secretary is required to +solicit and consider suggestions from any interested agency, but he or +she is not required to respond to the comments or accord them any +particular weight. Similar issues arise at the individual lease sale +stage and at the development and production plan stage. As a result, +NOAA--the nation's ocean agency with the most expertise in marine +science and the management of living marine resources--effectively has +the same limited role as the general public in the decisions on +selecting where and when to lease portions of the OCS. The Commission +recommends a more robust and formal interagency consultation process in +which NOAA, in particular, is provided a heightened role, but ultimate +decision-making authority is retained at DOI. The Commission further +recommends the creation of an Office of Environmental Science, led by a +Chief Environmental Scientist, with specified responsibilities in +conducting all NEPA reviews, coordinating other environmental reviews, +and whose expert judgment on environmental protection concerns would be +accorded significant weight in leasing decision-making. +V. Reforming Industry Safety Practices +Changing Business As Usual + Without effective government oversight, the offshore oil and gas +industry will not adequately reduce the risk of accidents, nor prepare +effectively to respond in emergencies. However, government oversight +alone cannot reduce those risks to the fullest extent possible. +Government oversight must be accompanied by the oil and gas industry's +internal reinvention: sweeping reforms that accomplish no less than a +fundamental transformation of its safety culture. + Even the most inherently risky industry can be made much safer, +given the right incentives and disciplined systems, sustained by +committed leadership and effective training. The critical common +element is an unwavering commitment to safety at the top of an +organization: the CEO and board of directors. +Industry Self-Policing as a Supplement to Government Regulation + One of the key responsibilities of government is to regulate--to +direct the behavior of individuals and institutions according to rules. +Many businesses and business groups are involved in internal standard +setting, evaluation, and other activities that constitute self-policing +or self-regulation. But even in industries with strong self-policing, +government also needs to be strongly present, providing oversight and/ +or additional regulatory control--responsibilities that cannot be +abdicated if public safety, health, and welfare are to be protected. + Industry-standard setting and self-policing organizations are +widespread in the United States and in most industrialized nations-- +typically for operations marked by technical complexity, such as the +chemical, nuclear power, civil aviation, and oil and gas industries, +where government oversight is also present. These processes coexist +where there are relatively limited numbers of people with the requisite +expertise and experience, making it hard for government to be able to +rely solely on its own personnel (especially when government cannot +compete with private-sector salaries for those experts). Support for +standard setting and self-policing also arises in industries whose +reputations depend on the performance of each company, and where +significant revenues are at stake. However, industry self-policing is +not a substitute for government but serves as an important supplement +to government oversight. + After Three Mile Island, the nuclear power industry established the +Institute of Nuclear Power Operations (INPO), a nonprofit organization +with the ambitious mission ``to promote the highest levels of safety +and reliability--to promote excellence--in the operation of commercial +nuclear power plants.'' The oil and gas industry, like the nuclear +power industry, has both the substantial economic resources and the +necessary economic incentive to make it happen. INPO was formed because +doing so was in the industry's self-interest. As the Deepwater Horizon +disaster made unambiguously clear, the entire industry's reputation, +and perhaps its viability, ultimately turn on its lowest-performing +members. If any one company is involved in an accident with widespread +and potentially enormous costs, like those that followed the Macondo +blowout, everyone in the industry--companies and employees--suffers, as +do regional economies and the nation as a whole. No one, in industry or +in government, can afford a repeat of the Macondo explosion and spill. + Like the nuclear power industry in 1979, the nation's oil and gas +industry needs now to embrace the potential for an industry safety +institute to supplement government oversight of industry operations. To +be credible, any industry-created safety institute would need to have +complete command of technical expertise available through industry +sources--and complete freedom from any suggestion that its operations +are compromised by multiple other interests and agendas. As a +consensus-based organization, the American Petroleum Institute (API) is +culturally ill-suited to drive a safety revolution in the industry. For +this reason, it is essential that the safety enterprise operate apart +from the API. API's longstanding role as an industry lobbyist and +policy advocate--with an established record of opposing reform and +modernization of safety regulations--renders it inappropriate to serve +a self-policing function. + The INPO experience makes clear that any successful oil and gas +industry safety institute would require in the first instance strong +board-level support from CEOs and boards of directors of companies for +a rigorous inspection and auditing function. Such audits would need to +be aimed at assessing companies' safety cultures and encouraging +learning about implementation of enhanced practices. The inspection and +auditing function would need to be conducted by safety institute staff, +complemented by experts seconded from industry companies. There would +also need to be a commitment to share findings about safety records and +best practices within the industry, aggregate data, and analyze +performance trends, shortcomings, and needs for further research and +development. Accountability could be enhanced by a requirement that +companies report their audit scores to their boards of directors and +insurance companies. + The industry's safety institute could facilitate a smooth +transition to a regulatory regime based on systems safety engineering +and improved coordination among operators and contractors--the +principles of the U.K.'s ``safety case'' that shifts responsibility for +maintaining safe operations at all times to the operators themselves. +It should drive continuous improvement in standards and practices by +incorporating the highest standards achieved globally. + The industry also needs to benchmark safety and environmental +practice rules against recognized global best practices. The Safety and +Environmental Management Program Recommended Practice 75 (API RP 75) +developed in 1993 by the API and incorporated by reference in the +Department of the Interior's new workplace safety rules, adopted in +October 2010, is a reasonable starting point. +VI. Response and Containment + As part of its charge from President Obama, the Commission looked +at the effectiveness of the response to the spill. There were +remarkable instances of dedication and heroism by individuals involved +in the rescue and cleanup. Much was done well--and thanks to a +combination of good luck and hard work, the worst-case scenarios did +not all come to pass. But it is impossible to argue that the industry +or the government was prepared for a disaster of the magnitude of the +Deepwater Horizon oil spill. Twenty years after the Exxon Valdez spill +in Alaska, the same blunt response technologies--booms, dispersants, +and skimmers--were used, to limited effect. On-the-ground shortcomings +in the joint public-private response to an overwhelming spill like that +resulting from the blowout of the Macondo well are now evident, and +demand public and private investment. So do the weaknesses in local, +state, and federal coordination revealed by the emergency. + Neither BP nor the federal government was prepared to conduct an +effective response to a spill of the magnitude and complexity of the +Deepwater Horizon disaster. Three critical issues or gaps existed in +the government's response capacity: (1) the failure to plan effectively +for a large-scale, difficult-to-contain spill in the deepwater +environment; (2) the difficulty of coordinating with state and local +government officials to deliver an effective response; and (3) a lack +of information and understanding concerning the efficacy of specific +response measures, such as dispersants or berms. Moreover, the +technology available for cleaning up oil spills had improved only +incrementally since 1990. The technologies and methods available to cap +or control a failed well in the extreme conditions thousands of feet +below the sea were also inadequate. Although BP was able to develop new +source-control technologies in a compressed timeframe, and the +government was able to develop an effective oversight structure, the +containment effort would have benefitted from prior preparation and +contingency planning. +Improved Oil Spill Response Planning + The Department of the Interior should create a rigorous, +transparent, and meaningful oil spill risk analysis and planning +process for the development and implementation of better oil spill +response. Several steps are needed for implementation: + Interior should review and revise its regulations and + guidance for industry oil spill response plans. The revised + process should ensure that all critical information and spill + scenarios are addressed in the plans. + In addition to Interior, other agencies with relevant + scientific and operational expertise should play a role in + evaluating spill response plans to verify that operators can + conduct the operations detailed in their plans. Specifically, + oil spill response plans, including source-control measures, + should be subject to interagency review and approval by the + Coast Guard, EPA, and NOAA. Other parts of the federal + government, such as Department of Energy national laboratories + that possess relevant scientific expertise, could be consulted. + Plans should also be made available for a public comment period + prior to final approval and response plans should be made + available to the public following their approval. + Interior should incorporate the ``worst-case + scenario'' calculations from industry oil spill response plans + into NEPA documents and other environmental analyses or + reviews. +Spills of National Significance + The Gulf oil spill presented an unprecedented challenge to the +response capability of both government and industry. Though the +National Contingency Plan permitted the government to designate the +spill as one of ``national significance,'' this designation did not +trigger any procedures other than allowing the government to name a +National Incident Commander. + EPA and the Coast Guard should establish distinct plans and +procedures for responding to a ``Spill of National Significance.'' +Specifically, EPA should amend or issue new guidance on the National +Contingency Plan to: + Increase government oversight of the responsible + party, based on the National Contingency Plan's requirement + that the government ``direct'' the response where a spill poses + a substantial threat to public health or welfare. + Augment the National Response Team and Regional + Response Team structures to establish additional frameworks for + providing interagency scientific and policymaking expertise + during a spill. Further, EPA, NOAA, and the Coast Guard should + develop procedures to facilitate review and input from the + scientific community--for example, by encouraging disclosure of + underlying methodologies and data. + Create a communications protocol that accounts for + participation by high-level officials who may be less familiar + with the National Contingency Plan structure and create a + communications center within the National Incident Command-- + separate from the joint information center established in + partnership with the responsible party--to help transmit + consistent and complete information to the public. +Strengthening State and Local Involvement + The response to the Deepwater Horizon disaster showed that state +and local elected officials had not been adequately involved in oil +spill contingency planning, though career responders in state +government had participated extensively. Unfamiliarity with, and lack +of trust in, the federal response manifested itself in competing state +structures and attempts to control response operations that undercut +the efficiency of the response overall. + EPA and the Coast Guard should bolster state and local involvement +in oil spill contingency planning and training and create a mechanism +for local involvement in spill planning and response similar to the +Regional Citizens' Advisory Councils mandated by the Oil Pollution Act +of 1990. + In addition, a mechanism should be created for ongoing local +involvement in spill planning and response in the Gulf. In the Oil +Pollution Act of 1990, Congress mandated citizens' councils for Prince +William Sound and Cook Inlet. In the Gulf, such a council should +broadly represent the citizens' interests in the area, such as fishing +and tourism, and possibly include representation from oil and gas +workers as ex-officio, non-voting members. +Research and Development for Improved Response + The technology available for cleaning up oil spills has improved +only incrementally since 1990. Federal research and development +programs in this area are underfunded: In fact, Congress has never +appropriated even half the full amount authorized by the Oil Pollution +Act of 1990 for oil spill research and development. + Specifically, Congress should provide mandatory funding (i.e. +funding not subject to the annual appropriations process) at a level +equal to or greater than the amount authorized by the Oil Pollution Act +of 1990 to increase federal funding for oil spill response research by +agencies such as Interior, the Coast Guard, EPA, and NOAA. In addition, +Congress and the Administration should encourage private investment in +response technology more broadly, including through public-private +partnerships and a tax credit for research and development in this +area. +Dispersants + Prior to the blowout, the federal government had not adequately +planned for the use of dispersants to address such a large and +sustained oil spill, and did not have sufficient research on the long- +term effects of dispersants and dispersed oil to guide its decision- +making. + EPA should update and periodically review its dispersant testing +protocols for product listing or pre-approval, and modify the pre- +approval process to include temporal duration, spatial reach, and +volume of the spill. EPA should update its dispersant testing protocols +and require more comprehensive testing prior to listing or pre- +approving dispersant products. The Coast Guard and EPA should modify +pre-approvals of dispersant use under the National Contingency Plan to +establish procedures for further consultation based on the temporal +duration, spatial reach, or volume of the spill and volume of +dispersants that responders are seeking to apply. EPA and NOAA should +conduct and encourage further research on dispersants. +Containment + The most obvious, immediately consequential, and plainly +frustrating shortcoming of the oil spill response set in motion by the +events of April 20, 2010 was the simple inability--of BP, of the +federal government, or of any other potential intervener--to contain +the flow of oil from the damaged Macondo well. + At the time of the blowout on April 20, the U.S. government was +unprepared to oversee a deepwater source-control effort. Once the +Secretary of Energy's science team, the U.S. Geological Survey, the +national laboratories, and other sources of scientific expertise became +involved, the government was able to substantively supervise BP's +decision-making, forcing the company to fully consider contingencies +and justify its chosen path. + The National Response Team should develop and maintain expertise +within the Federal government to oversee source-control efforts. The +National Response Team should create an interagency group--including +representation from the Department of the Interior, Coast Guard, and +the Department of Energy and its national laboratories--to develop and +maintain expertise in source control, potentially through public- +private partnerships. +Industry's Spill Preparedness + Beyond attempting to close the blowout preventer stack, no proven +options for rapid source control in deepwater existed when the blowout +occurred. The Department of the Interior should require offshore +operators to provide detailed plans for source control as part of their +oil spill response plans and applications for permits to drill. + These plans should demonstrate that an operator's containment +technology is immediately deployable and effective. In applications for +permits to drill, the Interior should require operators to provide a +specific source-control analysis for each well. As with oil spill +response plans, source-control plans should be reviewed and approved by +agencies with relevant expertise, including the Interior and the Coast +Guard. +Improved Capability for Accurate Flow Rate Estimates + Early flow rate estimates were highly variable and difficult to +determine accurately. However, the understated estimates of the amount +of oil spilling appear to have impeded planning for and analysis of +source-control efforts like the cofferdam and especially the top kill. + The National Response Team should develop and maintain expertise +within the federal government to obtain accurate estimates of flow rate +or spill volume early in a source-control effort. The National Response +Team should create an interagency group--including representation from +Interior, the Coast Guard, the national laboratories, and NOAA--to +develop and maintain expertise in estimating flow rates and spill +volumes. In addition, EPA should amend the National Contingency Plan to +create a protocol for the government to obtain accurate estimates of +flow rate or spill volume from the outset of a spill. This protocol +should require the responsible party to provide all data necessary to +estimate flow rate or spill volume. +More Robust Well Design and Approval Process + Among the problems that complicated the Macondo well-containment +effort was a lack of reliable diagnostic tools and concerns about the +well's integrity. The Department of the Interior should require +offshore operators seeking its approval of proposed well design to +demonstrate that: + Well components, including blowout preventer stacks, + are equipped with sensors or other tools to obtain accurate + diagnostic information--for example, regarding pressures and + the position of blowout preventer rams. + Wells are designed to mitigate risks to well + integrity during post-blowout containment efforts. +Industry Responsibilities for Containment and Response + Industry's responsibilities extend to efforts to contain any big +spills as quickly as possible and to mitigate the harm caused by spills +through effective response efforts. Both government, which must be +capable of taking charge of those efforts, and industry were woefully +unprepared to contain or respond to a deepwater well blowout like that +at Macondo. All parties lacked adequate contingency planning, and +neither had invested sufficiently in research, development, and +demonstration to improve containment or response technology. + From now on, the oil and gas industry needs to combine its +commitment to transform its safety culture with adequate resources for +containment and response. Large-scale rescue, response, and containment +capabilities need to be developed and demonstrated--including +equipment, procedures, and logistics--and enabled by extensive +training, including full-scale field exercises and international +cooperation. + To that end, at least two industry spill containment initiatives +have emerged that build on ideas and equipment that were deployed in +response to the Macondo blowout and spill. The nonprofit Marine Well +Containment Company was created in July 2010 by four of the major, +integrated oil and gas companies. The second spill containment +initiative is being coordinated by Helix Energy Solutions Group, which +played a role in the Macondo well containment efforts. + Yet neither the Marine Well Containment Company's planned +capabilities nor Helix's go past 10,000 feet despite the fact that +current drilling technology extends beyond this depth. Also it seems +that neither is structured to ensure the long-term ability to innovate +and adapt over time to the next frontiers and technologies. What +resources, if any, either initiative will dedicate to research and +development going forward is unclear. + The primary long-term goal of a spill containment company or +consortia should be to ensure that an appropriate containment system is +readily available to contain quickly spills in the Gulf of Mexico with +the best available technology. Any spill containment company or +consortia should ensure that it remains focused on this goal, even when +doing so potentially conflicts with the short-term interests of its +founding companies, in the case of MWCC, or the parent company, in the +case of Helix. An independent advisory board, with representatives from +industry, the federal government, state and local governments, and +environmental groups could help keep any spill containment initiative +focused on innovative, adaptive, effective spill response over the long +term. +VII. Financial Responsibility + Oil spills cause a range of harms, including personal, economic and +environmental injuries, to individuals and ecosystems. The Oil +Pollution Act makes the party responsible for a spill liable for +compensating those who suffered as a result of the spill--through human +health and property damage, lost profits, and other personal and +economic injuries--and for restoring injured natural resources. The Act +also provides an opportunity to make claims for compensation from a +dedicated Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund. The Oil Pollution Act, +however, imposes limits on both the amount for which the responsible +party is liable, and the amount of compensation available through the +trust fund. In the case of the Deepwater Horizon spill, BP (a +responsible party) has placed $20 billion in escrow to compensate +private individuals and businesses through the independent Gulf Coast +Claims Facility. But if a less well capitalized company had caused the +spill, neither a multi-billion dollar compensation fund nor the funds +necessary to restore injured resources, would likely have been +available. + Liability for damages from spills from offshore facilities is +capped under the Oil Pollution Act at $75 million, unless it can be +shown that the responsible party was guilty of gross negligence or +willful misconduct, violated a federal safety regulation, or failed to +report the incident or cooperate with removal activities, in which case +there is no limit on damages. Claims up to $1 billion for certain +damages can be made to, and paid out of, the Oil Spill Liability Trust +Fund, which is currently supported by an 8-cent per-barrel tax on +domestic and imported oil. + The Oil Pollution Act also requires responsible parties to +``establish and maintain evidence of financial responsibility,'' +generally based on a ``worst-case discharge'' estimate. In the case of +offshore facilities, necessary financial responsibility ranges from $35 +million to $150 million. +Inadequacy of Current System + There are two main problems with the current liability cap and +financial responsibility dollar amounts. First, the relatively modest +liability cap and financial responsibility requirements provide little +incentive for oil companies to improve safety practices. Second, as +noted, if an oil company with more limited financial means than BP had +caused the Deepwater Horizon spill, that company might well have +declared bankruptcy long before paying fully for all damages. In the +case of a large spill, the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund would likely +not provide sufficient backup. Thus, a significant portion of the +injuries caused to individuals and natural resources, as well as +government response costs, could go uncompensated. + Any discussion of increasing liability caps and financial +responsibility requirements must balance two competing public policy +concerns: first, the goal of ensuring that the risk of major spills is +minimized, and in the event of a spill, victims are fully compensated; +and second, that increased caps and financial responsibility +requirements do not drive competent independent oil companies out of +the market. A realistic policy solution also requires an understanding +of the host of complex economic impacts that could result from +increases to liability caps and financial responsibility requirements. +Options for Reform + As this Committee and others in Congress consider options for +addressing these problems, the Commission recommends that first, +Congress significantly increase the liability cap and financial +responsibility requirements for offshore facilities. To address both +the incentive and compensation concerns noted above, Congress should +significantly raise the liability cap. Financial responsibility limits +should also be increased, because if an oil company does not have +adequate resources to pay for a spill, the application of increased +liability has little effect. Should a company go bankrupt before fully +compensating for a spill, its liability is effectively capped. If, +however, the level of liability imposed and the level of financial +responsibility required are set to levels that bear some relationship +to potential damages, firms will have greater incentives to maximize +prevention and minimize potential risk of oil spills and also have the +financial means to ensure that victims of spills do not go +uncompensated. + Second, the Commission recommends that Congress increase the limit +on per-incident payouts from the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund. If +liability and financial responsibility limits are not set at a level +that will ensure payment of all damages for spills, then another source +of funding will be required to ensure full compensation. The federal +government could cover additional compensation costs, but this approach +requires the taxpayer to foot the bill. Therefore, Congress should +raise the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund per-incident limit. Raising +the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund's per-incident limit will require +the Fund to grow through an increase of the per-barrel tax on domestic +and imported oil production. An alternative would be to increase the +Trust Fund through a surcharge by mandatory provisions in drilling +leases triggered in the event that there are inadequate sums available +in the Fund. + Third, the Commission recommends that the Department of the +Interior enhance auditing and evaluation of the risk of offshore +drilling activities by individual participants (operator, driller, +other service companies). The Department of the Interior, insurance +underwriters, or other independent entities should evaluate and monitor +the risk of offshore drilling activities to promote enhanced risk +management in offshore operations and to discourage unqualified +companies from remaining in the market. + The Interior Department currently determines financial +responsibility levels based on potential worst-case discharges, as +required by the Oil Pollution Act. Although the agency's analysis to +some degree accounts for the risk associated with individual drilling +activities, it does not fully account for the range of factors that +could affect the cost of a spill, and thus the level of financial +responsibility that should be required. Interior should analyze a host +of specific, risk-related criteria when determining financial +responsibility limits applicable to a particular company, including, +but not limited to: geological and environmental considerations, the +applicant's experience and expertise, and applicable risk management +plans. This increased scrutiny would provide an additional guard +against unqualified companies entering the offshore drilling market. +VIII. Spill Impacts and Gulf Restoration + Even before the highly visible damages caused by the spill became +clear, many crucial Gulf economic and ecological resources--fisheries, +transportation, tourism--faced long-term threats. First, more than +2,300 square miles of coastal wetlands--an area larger than the State +of Delaware--have been lost to the Gulf since the United States raised +the massive levees along the lower Mississippi River after the +devastating Great Flood of 1927. Exceptionally powerful hurricanes, +always a threat to the region, struck the coast in 2005 (Katrina and +Rita) and 2008 (Gustav and Ike), causing even more wetland loss. +Second, low-oxygen bottom waters were in the process of forming a +massive ``dead zone'' extending up to 7,700 square miles during the +summer of 2010. Referred to as hypoxia, this phenomenon has intensified +and expanded since the early 1970s as a result of nutrient pollution, +mainly from Midwestern agriculture. And finally, the Deepwater Horizon +disaster made matters worse: 11 rig workers killed in the explosion and +17 injured; many thousands of people exposed to contaminated waters, +coasts, beaches, and seafood; thousands out of work; birds and sea +animals killed and significant habitats damaged or destroyed. The +Commission's investigation made plain that existing authorities are not +adequate to redress these significant harms and ensure restoration of +the Gulf. +Human Health Impacts + The National Contingency Plan overlooks the need to respond to +widespread concerns about human health impacts. For smaller oil spills, +the response effort is generally carried out by trained oil spill +response technicians, but given the scale of the response to the +Deepwater Horizon spill and the need to enlist thousands of previously +untrained individuals to clean the waters and coastline, many response +workers were not screened for pre-existing conditions. This lack of +basic medical information, which could have been collected if a short +medical questionnaire had been distributed, limits the ability to draw +accurate conclusions regarding long-term physical health impacts. EPA +should amend the National Contingency Plan to add distinct procedures +to address human health impacts during a Spill of National +Significance. Spills of this magnitude necessarily require a +significant clean-up effort, potentially exposing workers to toxic +compounds in oil and dispersants. +Consumer Confidence + Images of spewing oil and oiled beaches in newspapers and on +television set the stage for public concern regarding the safety of +Gulf seafood. Additional factors contributed to the lingering +impression that the public could not trust government assurances that +the seafood was safe: the unprecedented volumes of dispersants used, +confusion over the flow rate and fate of the oil, frustration about the +government's relationship with BP in spill cleanup, and lawsuits filed +by fishermen contesting the government's assurance of seafood safety. +The economic blow to the Gulf region associated with this loss of +consumer confidence is sizable. BP gave Louisiana and Florida $68 +million for seafood testing and marketing, as well as money to assess +impacts on tourism and fund promotional activities. As of early +December 2010, BP was considering a similar request from Alabama. + In future spills, however, there is no guarantee that a responsible +party will have the means or the inclination to compensate such losses. +Such indirect financial harms are currently not compensable under the +Oil Pollution Act. Nevertheless, losses in consumer confidence are real +and Congress, federal agencies, and responsible parties should consider +ways to restore consumer confidence in the aftermath of a Spill of +National Significance. + The Commission recommends that Congress, federal agencies, and +responsible parties take steps to restore consumer confidence in the +aftermath of a Spill of National Significance. +Lack of Sustained Funding for Gulf Restoration + A lack of sustained and predictable funding, together with failed +project coordination and long-term planning, has resulted in incomplete +and often ineffective efforts to restore the Gulf's natural +environment. No funding source currently exists to support regional +restoration efforts. While cost estimates of Gulf restoration vary +widely, according to testimony before the Commission, fully restoring +the Gulf will require $15 billion-$20 billion, or a minimum of $500 +million per year, over 30 years. A number of different sources +currently provide funding to individual states for restoration, however +none of these sources provides funds for Gulf-wide coastal and marine +restoration, and none is sufficient to support the sustained effort +required. Most policymakers agree that without a reliable source of +long-term funding, it will be impossible to achieve restoration in the +Gulf. + Several Gulf States and the federal government have filed or are +expected to file suit against BP and other companies involved in the +spill, which will likely create opportunities to direct new restoration +funds to the region. In some cases, congressional action will be +required to ensure that funds are directed to this purpose. The +Commission recommends that 80 percent of any Clean Water Act penalties +and fines be directed to Gulf restoration. Should such penalties and +fines not be directed to the Gulf, Congress should consider other +mechanisms for a dedicated funding stream not subject to annual +appropriations. Although such mechanisms face hurdles, the fact remains +that resources are needed if progress on coastal restoration is to +continue. Inaction is a prescription for further degradation. Should +CWA penalties not be redirected to Gulf restoration, Congress should +consider other mechanisms for a dedicated funding stream not subject to +annual appropriations. +Decision-making Body for Expediting Work + In order for funding to be most efficiently directed at long-term +restoration, a decision-making body is needed that has authority to set +binding priorities and criteria for project funding. The Gulf Coast +Ecosystem Restoration Task Force is now in place, as recommended by the +September 2010 report on restoration from Secretary of the Navy Ray +Mabus to the President, and subsequently established by Presidential +Executive Order. According to the Executive Order, the job of the Task +Force is to begin coordinating the different restoration projects being +undertaken by various jurisdictions in the Gulf, coordinating related +science activities and engaging stakeholders. However, as many in +Congress and the Administration have suggested, the Task Force lacks +some features necessary to effectively direct long-term restoration +efforts in the Gulf--most importantly the ability to set binding goals +and priorities. + The Commission recommends that Congress establish a joint state- +federal Gulf Coast Ecosystem Restoration Council. The Council should +implement a restoration strategy for the region that is compatible with +existing state restoration goals. Experience in major restoration +endeavors, including those in the Gulf, has shown that, absent binding +goals to drive the process, restoration projects are insufficiently +funded, focused, or coordinated. Therefore, the restoration strategy +should set short- and long-term goals with binding criteria for +selecting projects for funding. Key criteria should include national +significance; contribution to achieving ecosystem resilience; and the +extent to which national policies--such as those related to flood +control, oil and gas development, agriculture, and navigation--directly +contributed to the environmental problem. Congress should also ensure +that the priorities and decisions of the Council are informed by input +from a Citizens Advisory Council that represents diverse stakeholders. +Restoration Rooted in Science + Finally, but essentially, restoration decisions must be rooted in +science. An approach that draws heavily on information and advice from +scientists will result in project selection and funding allocations +that are more likely to lead to an effective region-wide restoration +strategy. Such an approach will also advance transparency in decision- +making and enhance credibility with the public. + The Commission accordingly recommends the establishment of a Gulf +Coast Ecosystem Restoration Science and Technology Program that would +address these issues in three ways: (1) by creating a scientific +research and analysis program, supported by the restoration fund, that +is designed to support the design of scientifically sound restoration +projects; (2) by creating a science panel to evaluate individual +projects for technical effectiveness and consistency with the +comprehensive strategy; and (3) by supporting adaptive management plans +based on monitoring of outcomes scaled both to the strategy itself and +to the individual projects or categories of projects included in it. +Managing Ocean Resources + The Commission recommends that as a part of management and +restoration efforts in the marine environment, greater attention should +be given to new tools for managing ocean resources, including +monitoring systems and spatial planning. Marine scientists have emerged +from the Deepwater Horizon incident with more precise questions to +investigate, as well as a better sense of monitoring needs in the Gulf +of Mexico, which because of its multiple uses and economic value should +be a national priority. To that end, the National Ocean Council, which +the President initiated in July 2010, should work with the responsible +federal agencies, industry and the scientific community to expand the +Gulf of Mexico Integrated Ocean Observing System, including the +installation and maintenance of an in situ network of instruments +deployed on selected production platforms. Participation in this system +by industry should be regarded as a reasonable part of doing business +in nation's waters. + Coastal and marine spatial planning has the potential to improve +overall efficiency and reduce conflicts among ocean users. Congress +should fund grants for the development of regional planning bodies at +the amount requested by the President in the fiscal year 2011 budget +submitted to Congress. Ocean management should also include more +strategically sited Marine Protected Areas, including but not limited +to National Marine Sanctuaries, which can be used as ``mitigation +banks'' to help offset harm to the marine environment. Given the +economic and cultural importance of fishing in the Gulf region--and the +importance of Gulf seafood to the rest of the country--scientifically +valid measures, such as catch share programs, should be adopted to +prevent overfishing and ensure the continuity of robust fisheries. +IX. The Future of Offshore Drilling + The central lesson to be drawn from the catastrophe is that no less +than an overhauling of both current industry practices and government +oversight is now required. The changes necessary will be transformative +in their depth and breadth, requiring an unbending commitment to safety +by government and industry to displace a culture of complacency. +Drilling in deepwater, however, does not have to be abandoned. It can +be done safely. That is one of the central messages of the Commission's +final report. The Commission's recommendations are intended to do for +the offshore oil and gas industry what new policies and practices have +done for other high risk industries after their disasters. The +Commission believes that the potential for such a transformation to +ensure productive, safe, and responsible offshore drilling is +significant, and provides reason for optimism even in the wake of a +disaster. + The significance of the Deepwater Horizon disaster, however, is +broader than just its relevance to the future of offshore drilling. The +disaster signals the need to consider the broader context of the +nation's patterns of energy production and use, now and in the future-- +the elements of America's energy policy. The explosion at the Macondo +well and the ensuing enormous spill--particularly jarring events +because of the belief they could never happen--force a reexamination of +many widely held assumptions about how to reconcile the risks and +benefits of offshore drilling, and a candid reassessment of the +nation's policies for the development of a valuable resource. They also +support a broader reexamination of the nation's overall energy policy. + Important decisions about whether, when, where, and how to engage +in offshore drilling should be made in the context of a national energy +policy that is shaped by economic, security, pace of technology, +safety, and environmental concerns. Offshore drilling will certainly be +an important part of any such policy, but its relative importance today +will not, and should not, be the same a half-century from now. The +nation must begin a transition to a cleaner, more energy-efficient +future. Otherwise, its security and well-being will be increasingly +dependent on diminishing supplies of nonrenewable resources and on +supplies from foreign sources. + Drilling for oil in the Gulf of Mexico, however, is not solely a +matter for U.S. consideration. Both Mexico and Cuba have expressed +interest in deepwater drilling in the Gulf in the near future. +Potential sites are close enough to the United States--Cuba's mainland +lies only 90 miles from Florida's coast and the contemplated wells only +50 miles--that if an accident like the Deepwater Horizon spill occurs, +fisheries, coastal tourism, and other valuable U.S. natural resources +could be put at great risk. It is in our country's national interest to +negotiate now with these neighbors to agree on a common, rigorous set +of standards, a system for regulatory oversight, and operator adherence +to an effective safety culture, along with protocols to cooperate on +containment and response strategies in case of a spill. +Frontier Areas + Our Commission also examined prospects in so called ``frontier +areas.'' On December 1, in the wake of the Deepwater Horizon +experience, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar announced that the +Administration would not proceed with drilling in areas where there are +``no active leases'' during the next five-year leasing plan. As a +result, exploration and production in certain frontier areas--the +eastern Gulf and off of the Atlantic and Pacific coasts--are deferred. +The Secretary also indicated that plans for 2011 drilling in Alaska's +Beaufort Sea would be subjected to additional environmental +assessments. + The major interest in offshore Alaska reflects the likelihood of +finding significant new sources of oil there. The Chukchi and Beaufort +Sea off Alaska's north coast rank behind only the Gulf of Mexico in +estimated domestic resources. But finding and producing those +potentially important supplies of oil offshore Arctic Alaska requires +the utmost care, given the special challenges for oil spill response +and containment, and heightened risks associated with this frontier, +especially its extreme cold, extended seasons of darkness, hurricane- +strength storms, and pervasive fog--all affecting access and working +conditions--and the extraordinary richness of its ecosystems and the +subsistence native communities dependent upon their protection. To deal +with these serious concerns about Arctic oil spill response, +containment and the heightened environmental stakes the Commission +recommends three approaches before the Department of the Interior makes +a determination that drilling in a particular area is appropriate. +First, the Department should ensure that the containment and response +plans proposed by industry are adequate for each stage of development +and that the underlying financial and technical capabilities have been +satisfactorily demonstrated in the Arctic. Second, the Coast Guard and +the oil companies operating in the Arctic should carefully delineate +their respective responsibilities in the event of an accident-- +including search and rescue--and then must build and deploy the +necessary capabilities. Third, Congress should provide the resources to +establish Coast Guard capabilities in the Arctic, based on the Guard's +review of gaps in its capacity. + The Arctic is shared by multiple countries, many of which are +considering or conducting oil and gas exploration and development. The +extreme weather conditions and infrastructure difficulties are not +unique to the U.S. Arctic. Damages caused by an oil spill in one part +of the Arctic may not be limited to the waters of the country where it +occurred. As a result, the Commission recommends that strong +international standards related to Arctic oil and gas activities be +established among all the countries of the Arctic. Such standards would +require cooperation and coordination of policies and resources. + Bringing the potentially large oil resources of the Arctic outer +continental shelf into production safely will require an especially +delicate balancing of economic, human, environmental, and technological +factors. Both industry and government will have to demonstrate +standards and a level of performance higher than they have ever +achieved before. + Creating and implementing a national energy policy will require +enormous political effort and leadership--but it would do much to +direct the nation toward a sounder economy and a safer and more +sustainable environment in the decades to come. Given Americans' +consumption of oil, finding and producing additional domestic supplies +will be required in coming years, no matter what sensible and effective +efforts are made to reduce demand--in response to economic, trade, and +security considerations, and the rising challenge of climate change. + The extent to which offshore drilling contributes to augmenting +that domestic supply depends on rebuilding public faith in existing +offshore energy exploration and production. We have proposed a series +of recommendations that will enable the country and the oil and gas +industry to move forward on this one critical element of U.S. energy +policy: continuing, safe, responsible offshore oil drilling to meet our +nation's energy demands over the next decade and beyond. Our message is +clear: both government and industry must make dramatic changes to +establish the high level of safety in drilling operations on the outer +continental shelf that the American public has the right to expect and +to demand. It is now incumbent upon the Congress, the executive branch, +and the oil and gas industry to take the necessary steps. + _____ + + [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] 63876.001 + + .epsThe Chairman. Thank you very much. + And I thank both of you. For the record, it was not me that +cleared my throat that you responded to. But nevertheless, I +appreciate that. + Mr. Graham. The message was clear. + The Chairman. I did want both of you to finish your +remarks, and I allowed that, but we do want to try to stay as +closely as we can. + I just have an observation and a question that I want to +ask both of you. Right from the get-go, when this event +happened and I was asked to respond, I said something on the +order: Number one, we need to stop the leak; number two, we +need to hold BP accountable; and number three, we need to make +sure that the restoration can get that part of the country back +to normalcy, however you describe that. + I have been saying that right from day one. You have spent +a great deal of time on it in your report. Your testimony +talked about what should be done in the future, and I alluded +to this in my opening statement. I would like you both to +respond to it. We still don't know what caused the explosion, +unless I missed something, and we don't know how or why the BOP +malfunctioned, if that was the case. And I would like both of +you to respond to that, and is there maybe a time in the future +when you are going to answer that, or do we wait for other +reports to come in before we draw conclusions? Whoever wants to +go first. I would like both of you to respond to that. + Mr. Graham. Well, what we know is that the event occurred, +and we know a great deal about why the event occurred. We have +identified in our report nine instances, nine human decisions +that were made in the hours before the Macondo explosion, which +we think were the precipitating cause of this immediate event. + It is true that no one at this point has had the benefit of +the full forensic examination of the blowout preventer. It is +at a NASA facility in New Orleans being closely examined. But +what we do know is that it didn't perform as it should have. If +it had been able to perform at an optimal level, it is +questionable whether that would have avoided the explosion +because the gas had already gotten beyond the blowout preventer +at the time that it would have gone into effect. + So I believe that our report adequately, accurately, +comprehensively addresses both the immediate cause and then the +context in which that occurred, which was a long period in +which government had done a very inadequate job of regulation, +at which the industry had fallen into this culture of +complacency, and where the consequences have been an enormous +economic and environmental cost to the people of the United +States. + Mr. Reilly. I would just add, Mr. Chairman, we know enough. +We know what happened. We know that the negative pressure test, +which was supposed to determine whether cementing had +effectively sealed off the well; we know that inconsistent +information came from the kill line and the drill pipe. And the +good news was accepted that while the conflicting information +was rejected in the drill pipe itself, indicating that had not +been a seal, the cementing had failed. We know that. We know +that as gas did rise in the drill pipe, it was not noticed, +although we have the documentation of the instrumentation, the +record that should have been recognized by a professional +monitoring that instrumentation to indicate that gas was coming +up the riser. It was not recognized until it was too late. So +we know those things. Those are a couple of examples. + A number of decisions were made by people who are not +alive, and we cannot but speculate on how they came to make +some of those decisions or to have missed some of the +information that they did have. + And if you look at page 125 of our report, we list about +nine decisions, seven of which had the corollary benefit of +saving time. No doubt they were identified as more efficient +ways to proceed, but there were alternatives to most of them, +and they weren't chosen. So the immediate proximate cause was a +series of bad decisions, very hard to understand decisions on +the day of April 20th and leading up to it with respect to +Halliburton's supply of cement which failed three of its own +tests and nine tests that were subjected to by our Commission +by Chevron's laboratory for testing cement. So we do know those +things. And I am quite confident that we have established the +facts here. + The Chairman. Since my time is running out, I would just +make this observation. What you have alluded to, both of you, +is the fact that somewhere along the line, there is human +error; something wasn't read. We heard that in testimony, +frankly, from the industry when they were here shortly after. +They said, we don't know what happened, but we suspect that +this is going to be the case. And that you have confirmed. + But we still don't know what mechanically or whatever else +broke down, and I just wanted to thank you for responding to +that. + Mr. Markey. + Mr. Markey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, very much. + Thank you for this report. This report is a blistering, +scalding indictment of the practices engaged in by the industry +and by regulators that created the conditions that made this +accident possible. My question to you is if your +recommendations are not adopted or provisions similar to those +which you recommend, do you think we run the risk of repeating +that catastrophe once again in the waters of the United States? + Mr. Graham. Yes. As I said, even if all of the +recommendations were adopted, no one could issue an insurance +policy that there would be no repetition. + But I could issue an insurance policy that the likelihood +of a repetition and the consequences of the repetition will be +significantly less if these recommendations are adopted. + One of the things that characterizes these recommendations +is they are not from outer space. Most of them are from the +North Sea, a place which has a more punishing environment than +the Gulf of Mexico, yet has a dramatically different record in +terms of fatalities. We believe that some of the experience +there--and ironically, the same companies that are operating in +the Gulf are operating under those standards in the North Sea. +So it is not a mystery or a new set of standards for those +companies themselves. + And as I said in my report, I am concerned that if we don't +act, if we are timorous and if we have an enhanced likelihood +similar to the Macondo, that we are all going to be pointed at +as to why we were unable to recognize and why we were unwilling +to act in the public interest. + Mr. Markey. Do you agree, Mr. Reilly? + Mr. Reilly. I do agree. And I would add that this is a very +dynamic industry, which has transformed itself in the last 25 +years as it has moved from shallow water into deep water, which +is a much more high-risk environment. It has not adapted its +own risk protections, its management systems adequately to +either prevent or to respond to a problem of this sort. + And I will tell you one of the things that--well, it is +reassuring that BOEMRE has issued new prescriptive regulations +to try to govern a lot of the activities that would take place +in the future, and that gives us some encouragement. Frankly +speaking, we don't consider that agency as it is now staffed, +formed, trained and compensated adequate to the task that they +have; and that if it is not strengthened, I suspect that we +will again see an incongruity grow between the sophistication +of the industry and its dynamism and the failure of inspectors +even to understand some of the basic technologies to stay on +top of it. + Mr. Markey. Let me follow up on that then because you have +recommendations here that can be implemented administratively +by the Obama Administration, but there are other +recommendations here that really need congressional action so +that we change the laws. Do you think it would be wise for us +not to act legislatively to give that authority to the +government so that they can change business as usual? Would we +be running a risk if we did not pass legislation? + Mr. Reilly. I think you would be running a big risk. There +are two crucial moves that I believe the Congress has to take. +One is to reorganize the Interior Department, simply to ensure +that leasing revenue concerns of the sort that animated the +agency over several administrations and three MMS Directors +testified to before our Commission, that those no longer infect +safety and environment regulation. And the way to do that is +statutorily, the way to do it on any kind of sustainable basis, +by creating a walled-off regulator within the Department of the +Interior with a term appointment for the Director. + And the second, the second requirement--and the first +doesn't cost anything--the second requirement is to adequately +fund the BOEMRE to carry out the responsibilities that it has. + Mr. Markey. Thank you. + Just to note here, BP had 760 OSHA fines--versus one for +ExxonMobil--so we can understand that there is something +fundamentally wrong here that a company like that was allowed +to continue to operate. + Senator Graham, your recommendation on legislation? + Mr. Graham. Well, I would agree with those two points, and +then the third is the one I made relative to restoration, that +only Congress can designate a portion of these fines and +penalties for the specific purpose of restoration, which we +think, in terms of the national interest in this region of +America, the fact that many of the problems that have led to +the degradation of the Gulf of Mexico had the Federal +Government at least as a partner if not the primary indicted +figure. + Mr. Markey. And can I just say very quickly, some people +say, well, it is just BP and that the other actors didn't play +a role, including the government, that the other companies +didn't play a role; true or not true? + Mr. Graham. In the area of response, it was not just BP +that was incapable. If this same thing had happened on +virtually any of the rigs in the Gulf, we would have had the +same response because we had the inadequate, unplanned-for +capabilities that made this such an unnecessarily significant +impact on the economy and the environment of the Gulf of +Mexico. + Mr. Markey. I thank you both for your service. + The Chairman. I thank the gentleman. + Mr. Young of Alaska. + Mr. Young. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the witnesses. + Mr. Chairman, I have reviewed the report, and I have also +reviewed the members of the Commission. And I have statements +from every one of the members of the Commission that do not +support offshore drilling, including the two witnesses before +us. + And that concerns me because I cannot figure out how this +can be a report that was supposed to look for the cause is now +trying to ask us to pass legislation when their basic goal is +against offshore development. In your statement you said you +were for it; you know the importance. But one gentleman said we +can establish 75 years as the goal for independence. To meet +that goal, we would have to reduce domestic production, not +increase it. + I am just questioning the Commission and the sincerity of +really seeking a solution to a needed commodity, which is oil. + Now, I personally have another question because of this +Administration. From either one of you, from the technical +perspective, what makes drilling in the deepwater Gulf of +Mexico so different? And are these conditions typical of the +other areas of the U.S. OCS? What is different between the Gulf +and Alaska? + Mr. Reilly. Well, the difference between the Gulf and +Alaska is the deep water that we are involved with in the Gulf, +5,000--we are going to 10,000 feet. Three rigs have been +commissioned that will take---- + Mr. Young. That I know and I appreciate your answer. I +appreciate your answer. + But as I read your report, your position on Arctic drilling +with the President is, in fact, we have to step forward with +caution; we have to make sure it can't be done too rapidly, et +cetera, et cetera. + But it is 150 feet versus 2,000 some odd feet or, excuse +me, 20,000 feet, 18,000 feet. And I am worried about this +country. We are going to spend about $400 billion again to buy +our oil. And this Commission--the make up of this Commission, +they are all against the development of offshore drilling and +onshore, by the way. Some on the Commission voted against +opening ANWR; 39 billion barrels were 74 miles from the +pipeline. + We are facing bankruptcy because we have not been able to +develop our fossil fuels. And yet the Commission, the majority +of them, in fact all of them, their intent is not to have +fossil fuels. And I think that is inappropriate. + Now, last, if I can suggest one thing, Mr. Chairman, we +have drilled in the Gulf about 42,000 wells, including 2,500 +deepwater wells. No where do you report in your report or +suggest why that was successful. We have had one big spill +since Santa Barbara. Now, how do you answer that? Was there any +credit given for what was done before and for those who did it? +Question. Answer. + Mr. Reilly. Well, I referred to 79 losses of well control. +I think many of those contributed to accidents and several +contributed to fatalities. That is the record that we have for +the Gulf, and it is not a pretty one. + Mr. Young. How many spills? How many spills? + Mr. Reilly. I don't know how many spills were associated +with those, but if you look at that list in the report, if they +weren't spills, they were near misses and close calls and +enough to kill people, and there were fires. + Mr. Young. Just like driving down the street, slipping on +the ice. + Mr. Reilly. I would like to say that again with respect to +ice. + Mr. Young. Like driving down the street, slipping on the +ice. There is going to be a chance. There is no fail-safe way +to do anything. + Mr. Reilly. No. And it can be done better. As Senator +Graham said, you cannot eliminate risk; you can reduce it +significantly. + I would point out to you, Mr. Young, that--first of all, +when you say what we really believe--what we really believe is +in this report. And it is pretty detailed, and I think we have +a lot of authority and documentation behind the recommendations +and findings that are in here. So I actually would suggest that +instead of interpreting comments made by Commissioners perhaps +in an earlier time without this mission, you look at this as a +definitive record of where we really stand. + And we are for offshore oil and gas development. We think +it can be done safely. And we also specifically recommend +against a moratorium in Alaska in the Arctic. + Mr. Young. And that means that you, in fact, want us to go +forth? + Mr. Reilly. Yes, sir. + Mr. Young. Will you express that in your report? It doesn't +say that. + Mr. Reilly. This Commission believes that we can go forward +to drill in the offshore the Chukchi and Beaufort Seas, but it +recommends a series of scientific analyses of Coast Guard +search-and-rescue movements, of a range of activities that will +have to be supplied--either by government or the industry--to +ensure over the long term that it will be done safely. But we +specifically say that should not be a barrier to moving +forward. + Mr. Young. It does say, then, you are supporting Arctic +drilling in the report? + Mr. Reilly. Yes, sir. + Mr. Young. I didn't read that. And if you do so, I wish you +would explain that to the President. + Mr. Reilly. You said in your remarks that we recommended it +be done with caution and that is certainly true. We have a +distinctive set of challenges that are being presented there. + Mr. Young. That is what happens, though. We have the +studies--for 40 years, we have been drilling in the Arctic, +just not Prudhoe Bay. We had been drilling there when we had +the PET-4, when we had the new line operation. We have been +doing the drilling, and we have done the studies. We have done +the work. And all of the sudden now we have that moratorium in +place by someone that doesn't believe in fossil fuels. + You heard him last night on the Floor. He doesn't believe +in fossil fuels. And I think it is wrong for this country. I +want all forms of power, but all of the sudden, we have a +Commission report I don't believe that really suggests we can +do without a big long delay. But we will send the money +overseas. + Mr. Chairman, my time is up. + The Chairman. Thank you very much. + Mr. Pallone from New Jersey. + Mr. Pallone. Thank you. + Thank you, Chairman Hastings and Ranking Member Markey, for +having the hearing today. + The report in front of us today is clear in my opinion that +we cannot drill safely off our shores under the current system +and that our coastal communities need protection from +untrustworthy big oil. + Only big oil will claim that they can drill safely and look +to expand drilling in the wake of our country's worst +environmental disaster and the finding of their systematic +failures. + Now, since the Deepwater Horizon disaster, the President +has reversed course and, thankfully, taken drilling in the +Atlantic off the table, at least for the next five years, and I +commend him for that action and believe we must make that +policy permanent. Only then can we be safe from the greed of +the oil industry. + Also, House Democrats passed the CLEAR Act to prevent +another catastrophic spill, and at that time, my Republican +colleagues opposed the legislation, saying we needed to wait +for this Commission's report. Now that we have it, it is time +to take action to prevent big oil from wreaking havoc on our +environment, and that is why I introduced the No New Drilling +Act to prevent the expansion of offshore drilling, which I +believe must be the policy, at least until we can be certain +another Deepwater Horizon incident will not happen again. + I represent a district along the Jersey Shore. I live along +the Jersey Shore, as well. I have all my life. And one of the +things I wanted to ask the two members of the panel is that I +believe very strongly that the farther you go out and the +deeper you are, the more dangerous it becomes. In arguing +against the need for reform, the oil and gas industry likes to +make the argument that the BP spill was like an outlier, and +they point to the long history of drilling in the Gulf. + But in reality, isn't it true that the vast majority of the +oil and gas industry's offshore drilling in the Gulf has been +in shallow water where drilling is much less complicated than +in the ultra-deep water where the Deepwater Horizon was +operating? So, basically, as we go farther out--and certainly +my understanding is that the Atlantic is strictly deep water, +not in shallow water--the danger is greater, and that is even +one more reason why the recommendations that you put forth are +crucial. I am asking either of you if you could answer that +question. + Mr. Graham. Well, the answer is clearly there is a +relationship between the danger and risk the deeper you go. And +it is also true that up until about 1990, virtually all of the +drilling that had ever taken place in the Gulf of Mexico was in +waters of less than 1,000 feet, which is the definition of +shallow drilling, so that the circumstances have dramatically +changed. And at the same time that the industry was developing +a technology that can, frankly, only be analogized to the +technology of the space program and its sophistication, there +was an enormous burst of the offensive capability to drill in +deeper areas. There was not a commensurate increase in the +defensive capability to respond should there be an accident and +to create the safety environment that would reduce the +prospects, not to zero but to the degree possible, that there +would not be accidents. + In the materials that have been distributed, there is a +chart, which is called ``MMS Budget and Gulf of Mexico Crude +Oil Production, 1984 to 2009.'' It is on page 73 of our report. +And you can see the degree to which the production in the Gulf +of Mexico has gone from being shallow water production now not +only to deep water, but the greatest increase has been in what +is described as ultra-deep water, where the risks are even more +significant. + Mr. Pallone. Mr. Reilly, did you want to respond? + Mr. Reilly. No. just to reenforce what Senator Graham said, +the formations are deeper in the deepwater. That is, they are +well under even very often--certainly in the case of Macondo-- +they were down at 18,000 feet, which is 13,000 feet below the +mud level. The formations are under much greater pressure, +something up in the range of 30,000 pounds per square inch, +which means all sorts of things in terms of the complexity of +dealing with a well situation that also involves, of course, +robots, which are the only way you can actually monitor and +maintain and improve or repair technology down at that level. + So, for all of these reasons, it is a much more challenging +enterprise. And that is why the industry in our view needs to +improve its capacity, recognize that they are in a different +era from the one that characterized shallow water drilling and +establish the kind of safety institute we recommend. + Mr. Pallone. Thank you, gentlemen. + The Chairman. I thank the gentleman. + Mr. Lamborn from Colorado. + Mr. Lamborn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. + I want to the thank both of the distinguished witnesses for +being here today and giving your testimony. + You said earlier that you do not know why the blowout +preventer did not work, and I am very concerned that you didn't +even wait until you knew what the cause of it not working was +before issuing your report. + Why didn't you wait until we knew why that blowout +preventer didn't even work? Because that is a key element in +this whole chain of events. + Mr. Reilly. Yes, sir. This was clear from the start, when +the President created us with an executive order, he gave us a +timetable of 6 months. In our early conversation with him, we +made clear to him we didn't expect the blowout preventer to be +pulled out before late August, which is about I think when it +was taken up, and still hasn't been forensically analyzed. So +it was always understood that the blowout preventer would not +be a part of our report; we would not have access to it and not +be able to make any judgments about it. + But the failure of the blowout preventer to work is itself +known; as to specifically why it didn't work, that remains to +be seen. I think all other aspects of this spill, though, were +subject to our investigatory analysis, and we were able to make +the judgments that give us confidence that we know what +happened. + Mr. Lamborn. Thanks for that answer. I think you or the +President should have had the patience to know why it didn't +work, and your report would have been much more significant in +my opinion had we had that information. + Mr. Reilly. As commissioners, we, sir, didn't have that +option. + Mr. Lamborn. Second, in a Wall Street Journal editorial +from two weeks ago, it states that not a single member of your +Commission was a drilling engineer or an expert in oil +exploration technology or practices. Don't you think that the +Commission would have been improved had you had people with +that kind of expert background on your board? + Mr. Graham. Frankly, I think that was a relevant question +to ask in the summer of 2010. Today, we have submitted an +almost 400-page report. We would like our competence to be +judged on this report. + And if there are areas that you think demonstrate a lack of +capacity to make the judgments that we did, we would be pleased +to know what those are, and we would attempt to provide a +response or an admission of our naivety. + I would say that I believe even if you took the most +extreme explanation of why the blowout preventer failed to +function, that doesn't trump the other nine factors that we +have identified that were contributing causes to this. + So while I am curious to know what the BOP did, I don't +think it would change the findings or the recommendations that +we have made. + We certainly wouldn't withdraw our recommendations that the +oil and gas industry should adopt, as the nuclear power +industry has, some form of internal capability to assess +safety. + We would not change our position that we need to have an +effective, competent Federal agency that can oversee the +industry. + We would not change our recommendation that that agency +should be protected by independents within the Department of +the Interior. + Those are our key safety recommendations, and I don't think +there is any evidence that is going to come from the forensic +examination that is currently going on at a NASA facility in +New Orleans of the blowout preventer that would alter those +recommendations. + Mr. Lamborn. Well, I will move on to my next question here. + In its undertaking of the investigation of the Deepwater +Horizon incident, the National Academy of Engineering and the +National Research Council announced that they would not be +issuing their final report until it has been peer-reviewed, +which is their standard practice for reports issued by the +National Academies. Has your report been submitted for peer +review to any other kind of body or experts or-- + Mr. Graham. It is a public document, so it is not just +submitted to peers, it is submitted to the American people for +their comment and evaluation. + Mr. Reilly. I would just say that it has been pretty well +reviewed and pretty well received and commented on by experts +in the field. + And I also want to note that we say in our formal testimony +that our senior technology and science advisor on this +enterprise was Richard Sears, who has 33 years of experience, +senior experience with Shell Oil, and he was present through +all of our deliberations on technology. + And I would also like to acknowledge publicly, we had +strong cooperation from industry, from three companies in +particular that spent several hours with us--Chevron, Shell, +and ExxonMobil--and cooperation, obviously, from the +Departments of the government, from BOEMRE and Director +Bromwich, and Secretary Salazar. + So I think we had a full range of input and plenty of +opportunity on the part also of the scientific agencies, NOAA, +the Coast Guard, to ensure that what we say is grounded in good +science and respectable technology. + And I must say we have become a little impatient, Bob and +I, with the criticisms of our competence, or the credentials of +our Commissioners, which maybe was OK to raise 6 months ago, +but the proof is here. If there is something wrong or if there +are people who have objections to the findings or think they +are wrong or to the recommendations, we would be very happy to +debate on that point. + But it seems to me now a little churlish to refer back to +the credentials without saying in some way how they are +connected to the inadequacies in the report, which nobody seems +to be doing. + Mr. Lamborn. Thank you. + The Chairman. Thank you. + Mr. Grijalva from Arizona. + Mr. Grijalva. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. + Gentlemen, if the current offshore policy is based on some +similar assumptions, as I understand it, one was the blowout +preventers actually worked. That was an assumption. The +assumption was that the industry had the ability to contain +spills. The assumptions were that spills offshore won't ever +hit onshore. There was an assumption based that rigs are +operated as safely as possible. + And I read through your report that brought into question +those assumptions. So, as a result, just for both of you +gentlemen, don't we have to rewrite our offshore policy based +on the fact that we don't have assumptions we can make right +now? Senator? + Mr. Graham. Well, I think some of the assumptions are that +drilling in the offshore is going to be a continuing and +increasing part of America's energy supply; number two, that +its acceptability to the American people will be closely +aligned with its safety. + You may recall that when Three Mile Island blew, almost 25 +percent of America's electricity was coming from nuclear power, +and there was an expectation that that percentage was going to +grow, maybe even to where France is, which is over 70 percent. +But that one incident so chilled the public toward nuclear +power, that we have had effectively a 30-year hiatus of any +expansion. And therefore, the percentage of electricity from +nuclear power is dramatically less than it was 30 years ago. + Now, whether the continued activities in the Gulf, more +Macondos, could have the same effect as Three Mile Island, as a +singular event had on the nuclear power industry, we can all +speculate. But I think it is in everybody's interest that we +conduct this industry to the highest standards. + Would anyone answer the question, why should drilling for +offshore oil in the Gulf of Mexico be at a lower standard of +safety and environmental protection than it is in the North +Sea? If there is some explanation as a matter of public policy, +why we should accept a lower standard, then I think we could +have a very good debate. No one has come forward making that +assertion. + Mr. Grijalva. The other point I think you called the +liability cap arbitrary in the report. The question is, lifting +the cap entirely as a means to assure that the taxpayer doesn't +get stuck with any bill beyond the cap; and two, as incentive +to meet the highest standards that the Senator just mentioned +for drilling, any reactions to no cap at all on liability? + Mr. Graham. We have recommended that the cap be lifted. We +did not go beyond that. Clearly the $75 million cap, which is +now 21-years old, just this year the change in the value of +money as a result of inflation over 21 years would cause you to +believe that 75 million was not adequate. Second, as Bill +pointed out, when that cap was established, virtually all of +our offshore drilling was in known, comparatively safe, low- +pressure areas. And today the largest share of our drilling is +in much riskier, deeper water. + Now, I am now going beyond what the Commission recommended +and just saying my own feeling is that if we have liability +caps, the rationale is to maintain a competitive marketplace in +the Gulf of Mexico, that we don't want only the largest oil +companies in the world to be able to drill, but we also don't +want to have financially incapable companies causing enormous +consequences. + So that would lead me to feel that the Congress might be +able to fashion a policy built around liability limits in +relationship to risk. It is one thing to have a liability limit +for 100 feet of water than 18,000 feet of water. Today, the law +applies the same standard to both of those two cases. + Mr. Reilly. I would just add if I might, Congressman, that +the establishment of some kind of liability cap that both +ensures a continuing capacity of independence to operate in the +Gulf, that doesn't just restrict to leasing or bidding to a few +majors, but also protects the public against being handed a +bill for major damages caused is something that is going to +take more time than we had in the 6 months and probably more +involvement of the insurance industry, since I assume an +insurance consortium of some sort would be necessary to address +this. + I also would note that the liability cap in Canada is $35 +million. I think it is 50 million pounds in Britain. And it +does strike me, too, that particularly with respect to those +resources, such as the Gulf and the Arctic, where other +countries' activities are also involved, there might be some +merit in trying to work out a uniform system of liability which +applies systematically to all oil and gas development in these +areas. + Mr. Grijalva. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. + The Chairman. Mr. Fleming from Louisiana. + Dr. Fleming. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. + And thank you, panel members, for being here today and your +service. This was, no question about it, a disaster. And like +any disaster, even though we don't know the precise cause of +the blowout, we do know some things happened that are typical +of disasters. + Because this is a high-risk operation, much like many other +things we do, travel in space, flying in airplanes, rarely is +one thing the cause of the disaster. It is usually a number of +different situations and occurrences and bad decisions that +align themselves which probably over time have occurred, but +because of some backup or redundancy, the disaster was +prevented. And that can sometimes be a bad thing because what +happens is we become, in your words complacent. If I make a +mistake, there is a backup system that will solve that problem +for me. And obviously that is something that on the industry +side and on the government side we need to bear in mind going +forward. + But it was a disaster to Louisiana, my home State, in two +ways: One, to our ecology, no question about it; but maybe even +worse and longer term in jobs. Louisiana has now lost tens of +thousands of jobs. Because these rigs are so expensive, they +have left our shores in some cases, and more will come, to go +to Brazil and Africa and other places. + And you know what is interesting is that they are going to +other parts of the world that have less standards than we do. +So I think that is a real issue we need to look at. + Now, the President lifted the moratorium, and I have been +researching this. I cannot find one single permit for deepwater +drilling that has been issued since the lifting of the +moratorium, and we don't know when they ever will. + So what I am concerned about and I would like to have your +reaction to this, I see recommendations for more legislation, +but I think we need to be careful about just moving the chairs +on the deck. For one thing, we are asking NOAA to sign off on +things, and that is a good thing. But is that going to make the +permit process even slower and more difficult? + So I would love to have the reaction from both you +gentlemen. Is this really going to get us where we need to be, +and how is this going to affect the jobs, which are so +desperately needed, and, finally, the price of gasoline and oil +that is going up because of the loss in supply? + Mr. Reilly. I would say two things. I would agree with you +completely to the degree that we restrict our own domestic +production, we are essentially, given our demand on supply, +intending to get more oil and gas from risky places, like the +Niger Delta or Venezuela. That is a given. And I think we have +to take an international perspective on the whole issue and +also recognize that the environment in those places counts, +too, and it has been very badly abused, particularly in the +Niger Delta; some 2,500 accidents over the last 10 years. That +is a perfectly fair point, and I think it is one that ought to +underlie our approach to many of these questions. + With respect to the moratorium itself, Senator Graham and I +were pretty specific early on. We did not understand it, +thought that it was excessive and considered that a more +selective approach that did not penalize those companies with +good records, particularly after they had once been inspected, +as they all were in the weeks following the Macondo disaster. +Once those few infractions that were found were corrected for, +it struck us that it would have been reasonable to resume +drilling at that time. But that has not happened. + I would say that going forward, to the degree that we +continue to under-staff, under-prepare, under-reform, and +under-finance the regulatory agency, we probably are going to +find that it is more reluctant to issue permits, less confident +about signing a name to a permit, and less able to get us back +into business. + Mr. Fleming. Senator, do you have a response? + Mr. Graham. I would just add that what Bill said at the end +happens to be the position of the major petroleum companies in +Great Britain, that they actually affirmatively support a +strong, well-financed, competent regulator as a key part of +their ability to do their business. I believe they are right, +and I hope that we will come to the same conclusion as to the +industry here in the United States. + Mr. Fleming. Can I get a commitment from you gentlemen--and +Mr. Reilly has already suggested that the President not only +lift the official moratorium, but actually allow permits-- +should we do away with what we have now, which is a de facto +moratorium? Would you both agree that the President should move +forward and begin to allow the issuance of permits? + Mr. Graham. As I understand it, there is a news story today +that states the reason--or at least a primary reason for the +delay in issuing permits for those rigs that have met the +individual standards, rig by rig--is that the industry has not +demonstrated that it has the capability to respond and contain +such an event or, if it does, those standards have not yet been +incorporated in the permit applications. + If that is the case, that actually, in my judgment, is a +positive signal that we are now down to essentially one issue. +And there also is some indication that the ability to meet that +standard of adequate response and containment is near an end. + The Chairman. I thank the gentleman. Mr. Boren of Oklahoma. + Mr. Boren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank the +members of the Commission for being here today and for your +work. Thank you, Mr. Reilly, Senator Graham. It was mentioned +earlier that there was some question about the qualifications +of the Commission. I want to say that I have a high regard for +the members of the Commission. Senator Graham--Chairman Graham +of the Intelligence Committee, you and my father were chair of +the Intelligence Committee about the same time, and we have a +warm regard for you and your work. So I want to thank you for +your service. I want to touch on a couple of things that were, +you know, in this book that we have here before us. I think a +vast majority of the recommendations--actually, a lot of the +industry would say that they don't really have a problem with. +You know, you are listening to someone who is a big supporter +of the oil and gas industry coming from Oklahoma. + But some of the verbiage, sometimes even just the words, +just to pick out of the report, I kind of have some concerns +about. One was the use of the term ``systemic,'' that there are +these systemic problems in the industry. And if you look at the +30-year history, you know, over the last 30 years, the history +of offshore oil and gas production, there have been some +incidents but I think a major incident is very rare. And if you +compare it with, you know, the airline industry or the commuter +train industry or any other industry, the oil and gas industry +has done quite a good job. The last few years, we have seen +documentaries like ``Gasland'' on hydraulic fracturing. A lot +of this that is out there is driven by a motion. It really +isn't driven by facts or science. And so I am really concerned. +The rhetoric, even the State of the Union last night, about, +oh, these oil and gas companies are making all this money. +Let's throw some more taxes on them. There are a lot of good +quality jobs that are created in States like Oklahoma, +Louisiana, all across this country, and they want to do the +right thing. They want to do the right thing for the +environment, as do most Americans. + I do have one question about the CLEAR Act legislation that +was brought out earlier about the cap on liability. And I have +a lot of independent oil and gas producers in Oklahoma that +have this question. We have been talking quite a bit about +this. But given such liability requirements, did your staff or +the Commission ask the insurance industry if any independent +operators would be able to obtain an insurance policy under +such guidelines or circumstances? And the reason why I ask that +question is, I am worried--and you kind of touched on this +earlier with Mr. Grijalva. If we only have one or two +companies, U.S. companies that do the drilling, we are going to +have the Chinese be the only folks that can drill these wells. +I would like to see--I am not talking about a mom and pop +company. + I am talking about, you know, Devon Energy is a huge +company in Oklahoma, but it is not as large as some of the big +majors. These are thousands of employees. They are very well +capitalized. These are types of companies that could do this +drilling without any problem. Are you all worried about that? +And did you talk to the insurance industry about whether or not +these smaller companies could, in fact, do this? + Mr. Reilly. We are worried about it, and it is why we did +not select a number with respect to an increase. We said it +should be increased but we didn't say how much. And we knew +that it would require insurance company consultation and advice +and help and didn't, frankly, have time to get it. So we did +not meet with the insurance industry on the liability cap. But +for all the reasons you mention, and our own sense that it is a +valued contribution that independent operators make to the +economy, to the culture, to the industry in the Gulf, we did +not want to make an irresponsible choice without adequate +information that might, in any way, inhibit their activities, +or possibly even cause them to move to other jurisdictions +where their liability cap is lower even than it is in the +United States. + Mr. Boren. Senator, do you have the same opinion? + Mr. Graham. I would agree with that statement. We tried to +operate within our areas of confidence. So the specific +recommendations we made, we are prepared to defend them. Where +an issue was outside of what we thought was our regional +component, such as the role of insurance companies in +determining the liability cap and how the role of insurance +companies might be a means of giving some assurance that we +would not be limited to just a handful of companies. We didn't +feel competent to comment on that. We did feel that on its +face, the $75 million liability cap across the board for +activities that are as divergently risky as shallow and ultra- +deep water needed to be lifted and re-examined. + We also were aware that the Congress is going to make that +ultimate decision, and we did not feel that we had anything +additional to add to your consideration of that. + Mr. Reilly. Mr. Boren, if I could add, I knew your dad too. +I served in the EL Corporation with him for 6 years. And I know +your district some. I serve on the board of an oil company who, +half of which used to be based, headquartered in Bartlesville. +And the senior executives there-- + Mr. Boren. ConocoPhillips? + Mr. Reilly. Yes, sir. + Mr. Boren. OK. Great. + Mr. Reilly. --are stung by the use of the term +``systemic,'' and yet are perfectly willing to acknowledge they +didn't see this coming and weren't prepared for it, didn't +think it could happen, and had a response plan which the +Chairman acknowledged was embarrassing to him because it had +the same characteristics as the other response plans. + So I would just say, we do not by any means intend to +disparage the safety or environmental standards of some of our +leading iconic oil and gas companies, whether the majors or the +independents. But the facts, I think, speak for themselves with +respect to this particular disaster. And they led us to report +all we did. + The Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. McClintock, +California. + Mr. McClintock. Gentlemen, thank you for being here today. +When the Challenger exploded, we knew only one thing for sure +after the accident. We knew that the launch vehicle had failed +catastrophically. The Rogers Commission was impaneled. It was +filled with technical experts. It painstakingly recovered the +wreckage from underneath the ocean. It reassembled that +wreckage. It then determined the precise cause of the disaster, +and it then recommended changes so that the space program could +move forward. + The one thing we know for sure in this disaster was that +the blowout preventer failed. Let me ask you quite directly, +did you determine why the blowout preventer failed? + Mr. Graham. The answer is ``no'' for the reasons that we +have given. + Mr. McClintock. Did you look? + Mr. Graham. Can I finish answering the question? + Mr. McClintock. It is a yes-or-no question. It is my time, +Senator. It is limited. So please. Did you even look at the +blowout preventer? + Mr. Graham. No. + Mr. Reilly. Most of the time we were at work, we would have +taken a robot to go down and get us there. + Mr. McClintock. Well, let me read you The Wall Street +Journal that took you apart for ideological bias, for a lack of +expertise, credibility, lack of thoroughness. And this is what +they said, Unable to name what definitely caused the well +failure, the Commission resorts to a hodgepodge of speculation. +Adding to the confusion, it acknowledges it could find no +evidence that BP or its contractors consciously chose a riskier +alternative. And so forth. + The Commission didn't even wait to get an autopsy of the +failed blowout preventer--and again, this is coming directly +from The Wall Street Journal--which is rusting on a Louisiana +dock. Why should we take your report seriously if you have not +even made that modicum of effort to determine the actual cause +of the disaster? + Mr. Graham. Well, as Mr. Reilly said to an earlier +question, we had a Presidential 6-month charter. We knew early +on that that charter was going to run out before the forensic +examination of the-- + Mr. McClintock. Did you ask for an extension of your +deadline? + Mr. Graham. We did not. + Mr. McClintock. So you just participated in a rush to +judgment without even looking at the cause of the failure that +created this entire disaster? + Mr. Graham. Well, I would just direct your attention to +page 125 of our report which lists the nine steps that we +assessed that contributed and cascaded. + Mr. McClintock. I understand that. But that would be like +the Rogers Commission issuing its report without looking at any +of the wreckage-- + Mr. Reilly. Congress, the cementing failed. The cement job +failed to contain the well free from hydrocarbons. We said +that. Is that not enough? + Mr. McClintock. Let me get to the question of ideological +bias because this is also an indictment in The Wall Street +Journal editorial. They said, The conclusions in your report +were, ``all too predictable given the political history of +Commission members. Former Democratic Senator Bob Graham fought +drilling off Florida. William Reilly is the former head of the +anti-drilling World Wildlife Fund, and Frances Beinecke ran the +Natural Resources Defense Council, which is opposed to carbon +fuels. Not a single member was a drilling engineer or expert in +oil exploration technology or practices.'' Why should we take +you seriously? + Mr. Reilly. Congressman, I would just say the use of the +word ``predictable'' is surprising to me because what was +predictable in the view of The Wall Street Journal when they +wrote their first critical editorial was that we would +recommend against future offshore oil and gas development, +which we very definitively did not. + Mr. McClintock. You are recommending a whole new level of +bureaucracy on top of an obviously already failed bureaucracy +with the obvious aim of indefinitely delaying of the production +of our Nation's energy reserves. What is the economic damage +caused by this disaster? Do we have a figure on that yet? + Mr. Reilly. We know it is in the tens of billions. + Mr. McClintock. I have an estimate here of a worst-case and +base-case analysis of the economic damage caused by the +moratorium, and it runs from $279 billion all the way up to +$341 billion. + Mr. Reilly. Billion? + Mr. McClintock. Billion, I believe. + Mr. Reilly. I haven't seen those numbers before, sir. + Mr. Graham. Could we have an opportunity to evaluate those +numbers? + Mr. McClintock. Absolutely. Absolutely. + Mr. Reilly. I would only say, with respect to the +bureaucracy question, I made clear in my opening statement, I +think that--and certainly the report goes into detail on this-- +that the reorganization of the Interior Department should be +cost-free. We do want to segregate the leasing, the revenue +generating, and managing functions from the environment and +safety regulation. That is a matter of straightforward +reorganization. + Second, the degree to which we add anything is intended to +provide more capability, more expertise, more professionalism +in an agency that then I would fully expect, based on my own +history at the Environmental Protection Agency, of facilitating +more confident permitting and a better regulatory oversight of +the industry. I don't think that it would work to delay. I +think it would work to improve and create more efficiency in +the relationship between the regulator and the industry. + The Chairman. Mr. Lujan from New Mexico. + Mr. Lujn. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. And I know +this important hearing is going to outlie the recommendations +to prevent another Deepwater Horizon disaster from happening +again, which is why I think we are here. It is not to debate +whether one supports or opposes offshore drilling. It is to +make sure that we don't let this happen again, and that we all +understand the roles that we have to play to get there. + And I want to thank the Commission for the work that they +did because this was a tough job, and you have a tough set of +circumstances with many critics. Many of us being those critics +as well. And I hope that we truly listen closely to your +recommendations and that we see what we can do to find common +ground to be able to get to that point. + By the time this Committee had convened last year to hear +testimony from BP executives, it had already become clear what +led to the Deepwater Horizon explosion was the culmination of +systemic failures. It was the failure of companies who +knowingly refused to implement the necessary safeguards to +prevent this disaster, and it was a failure of governmental +policies and regulators that did not apply the proper oversight +to minimize the risk of the disaster. BP has shown itself to be +negligent in safety violations and environmental protections. + We should not forget what happened in 2005 with the +explosion in Texas and the lives that were lost, 15 people. +200,000 gallons of crude oil and a pipeline that ruptured in +northern Alaska. These are real incidents. + But what is most significant about the Commission's report +is that it reveals the culture of undermining safety standards. +It is not just an issue for BP, but an epidemic failure facing +the entire offshore drilling industry. Quoting directly from +the report, ``The blowout was not the product of decisions made +by a rogue industry or government officials. Rather, the root +causes are systemic, and absent significant reform in both +industry practices and government policies, might well recur. + The Bipartisan Commissions report only confirms that +Congress must take action, do our part to prevent the disasters +like this from happening again. During the 111th Congress, this +Committee put in a lot of work to develop safeguards that would +modernize safety and environmental protections for Federal +offshore leasing programs in the CLEAR Act. Many expressed an +interest to see the report before we moved forward. + We now have that report. And as we hear from witnesses of +the Bipartisan Commission today, we have to ask ourselves, What +are we going to do? What is our role as Congress to make sure +this never happens again? Are we going to sit back and allow a +failed system to continue? We cannot turn a blind eye on this +issue. The Commission's report clearly outlines that Congress +needs to act quickly to protect the safety of people, the +welfare and livelihoods of communities, and the habitat of +fragile wildlife. + Only 7 months ago, we saw the horrific images of the +explosion that killed workers, the plumes of oil that +devastated marine life, local seafood industries, vulnerable +wetlands, and the waters of the Gulf. Over 205 million gallons +of oil were spilled in the Gulf because of the Deepwater +Horizon spill. Let us never forget the people who were impacted +and the families who lost so many of their loved ones. + It is in everyone's best interest, including industry, to +not let this happen again, and to truly understand the +responsibility that we all have to do our part to prevent that. + The first question I have is a yes-or-no question. We also +learned during the spill how woefully under-prepared the +Federal Government was to estimate the actual flow rate of oil +spewing from the well. In fact, the Federal response was +initially entirely dependent on misleading flow rate estimates +provided by BP, which had every reason to low-ball them because +we knew that the liability was tied to the calculations on a +per-barrel basis. + The legislation Democrats introduced today creates a +permanent scientific group which includes scientists from the +National Laboratories in the Department of Energy that will +maintain expertise needed to estimate flow rates. Is this +consistent with your recommendation? + Mr. Reilly. It is consistent. Yes, it is. We determined +that one consequence of the structure of our laws is that the +responsible party takes the lead in overseeing response, and we +want to keep liability fixed there. But one part of it which +government should have independent capability to carry out is +determination of the flow rate and the USGS Director, Marcia +McNutt, has now said that will not be an issue next time. + Mr. Lujn. And one last question, Mr. Chairman, to get on +the record and we can get this answered later is, the report +reveals that the cause of the spill was corporate +mismanagement, inadequate government regulation, and a lack of +political will to ensure proper oversight of the offshore oil +industry as they pushed offshore drilling into deeper waters. +You describe in the report that this problem is pervasive +across the entire offshore drilling industry. So my question +is: What will be the consequences if reforms fail to be +prioritized, including the passage of proper legislation to +minimize the chances of a disaster like this from ever +happening again. + And Mr. Chairman, I know we are going to run out of time. I +want to be respectful of the other members. So we could ask the +witnesses, Senator, to maybe send those back to us because I +think that there is a very thoughtful answer that we need as a +part of that. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield +back. + The Chairman. I thank the gentleman. Mr. Fleischmann of +Tennessee. + Mr. Fleischmann. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank +you for being here today. It is a privilege. In addition to +serving on this distinguished Committee, I also serve on the +Small Business Committee. And my first question to you all in +this group is in this regard. + Gentlemen, what would you all say to the owners of the +small businesses in this region struggling to survive until +operations are restored in the Gulf? These people have lost +most of their revenue streams, if not all of their revenue +streams. They have made extraordinary personal and professional +sacrifices to retain their employees and to preserve their +businesses. But they cannot hold on indefinitely. I would like +you all to address that, please. + Mr. Graham. Well, of course, what you just described +describes a number of the industries that are dependent on the +Gulf. There were thousands of fishermen who lost their ability +to acquire their income and there was a degradation of the +brand of Gulf seafood, a 20 percent to 30 percent drop almost +overnight in the consumption of Gulf seafood which has not yet +been overcome. We make some specific recommendations on that +subject. The tourism industry, which depends upon people's +feeling that they are going to go to a place that is clean and +healthy and enjoyable. + It also suffered tremendous damage. So the consequences of +an event like this have rippling effects. Mr. Reilly has +described the fact that we believe that there needs to be a +safe industry, that there can be a safe industry but that there +needs to be an offshore oil industry in order to meet the +energy requirements of the United States. And we sympathize +with all the small business, whether they be fishermen, +restaurant owners, or suppliers to the oil and gas industry. +And we hope that we can get back in business as rapidly as +possible with the safety measures that will protect all of +those interests. + Mr. Fleischmann. Thank you. Mr. Reilly. + Mr. Reilly. Congressman, I don't know if you have had this +experience. But I ordered some oysters in New York some time in +September, I think, and asked whether they were from the Gulf, +and was reassured very confidently by the waitress, no, we +would not serve any seafood from the Gulf. That problem +persisted through the fall. I understand it has not entirely +disappeared now. People continue, the seafood processors, the +fishermen to suffer because of that. I remember talking to the +Governor just around Memorial Day, the Governor of Mississippi, +who told me that there wasn't any oil within 60 miles of the +beaches of Mississippi but there was 30 percent occupancy in +what is usually the most important vacation tourism weekend of +the year in Mississippi. Those stories and the Europeans +canceling trips to Key West where the oil never approached are +very poignant stories. The Vietnamese fishermen I think +impressed me more than those of any other in my experience when +I was in the Gulf. And we had hearings. Our first hearing was +in New Orleans. We became very familiar with the problems you +describe, and they are as serious as you say. + Mr. Fleischmann. Thank you, gentlemen. I have a follow-up +question. In a lot of the additional fees and proposed taxes on +industry, what would the total government take-away be, +including royalties, severance taxes, property taxes, income +taxes, lease bonuses, and the proposed additional fees and +taxes mentioned in the report? + Mr. Reilly. I don't think we have costed those numbers in +total. The only thing I would say is that it is really +important to keep in perspective the amount of revenues the +government takes in from offshore oil and gas development, +anywhere from $6 billion to $8 billion in one year up to, I +think, $18 billion in 2008. It is the second largest revenue +generator after the IRS, and we can afford to spend some very +small proportion of that which would be in dollar numbers +reasonably significant, ensuring that it is better done and +that it has been done by the government. + Mr. Graham. According to the chart which appears on page 73 +of our report, in the year 1984, the budget of the MMS was +approximately $250 million. And in the year 2009, it was +something south of 200. At the same time, the industry, as the +same chart displays, has moved from being a relatively well- +known shallow water industry to increasingly a deepwater, high- +risk industry. You would have thought that the lines of cost of +effective regulation would have coincided with the increased +risk. So I can't tell you exactly what the number is, but it +would be hard to justify what appears to be about a $60 million +to $70 million a year reduction in the capability of the +regulatory agencies at the time the industry is going into more +risky areas. + Mr. Fleischmann. Thank you, Senator. + The Chairman. Dr. Christensen. + Mrs. Christensen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I want to +thank our panelists for being here. I too want to commend you +and the broad array of contributors to this very comprehensive +report. And among the many areas of concern, I too have to say +that I could never understand why the U.S. permitting standards +were lower than other countries and specifically lower than the +U.K., if I remember correctly, where BP is actually based. + Ours should be the highest in the world. And I also want to +support, before I get to my question, Senator Graham's response +on the moratorium. Because according to my reports, the +Department of the Interior, since June of last year, has +approved 28 permits to drill offshore in shallow water of 500 +feet or less, and there are only four or five shallow water +permits currently pending. On deepwater drilling, the +moratorium was lifted on October 12, and gas operators have to +comply with new regulations to show that they have a strategy +in place to actually contain a bailout. According to the +Interior Department, thus far, no one has been able to +demonstrate that actually, although I know that they are +working on it, and that is the holdup--not the Department, but +the fact that the companies are not able to respond adequately +at this time. The good news though is that according to the +Department, some companies are getting close, as you said, to +being able to demonstrate that ability, and I do share the +majority's hope that this can happen as quickly as possible. + My first question, if I can get to it, I wanted to follow +up on Mr. Boren's question. In saying that a systemic failure +occurred, did you mean systemic in this case, of the three +companies in their management of the Deepwater Horizon drilling +and MMS? Or did you mean to apply it to the entire industry and +say that the entire industry has been complacent? So I just +want to understand what you meant by systemic? + Mr. Graham. Well, we did not mean parity, that is that all +companies were equally subjected to this culture of +complacency. In fact, there are some companies that have a very +strong record. What we meant to say was that there was evidence +that the industry had not responded to the recognition that +there were some outlier companies that needed to be sanctioned. +You are a medical physician. If there were a physician in the +U.S. Virgin Islands who was known by the other physicians to be +performing at a rate that put people's lives at risk, I would +assume it would be your professional responsibility to bring +that to the attention of someone in authority. Well, we do not +feel that the industry carried out its obligation for self- +policing and, thus, in part, the recommendation for the INPO- +type organization. + Second, the example of response. Response is an industry- +wide obligation. We don't expect every company to have all the +equipment that is necessary to respond, but we expect the +industry at large to have the capacity to respond, and it was +clear that not only was there not that capacity, but that there +had been relatively little investment in the technology or +research and development, the understanding of the environment +that would have put them in a position to have produced a +response. + Mr. Reilly. I will just comment on your point about the +U.K. experience. We have discovered--and, of course, in our +research that companies and industries get serious about +reforming practices and improving them when they have their +catastrophe. The U.K. had a very serious catastrophe. It cost +187 lives in 1989, Piper Alpha. Our chief counsel was +intimately involved in investigating that accident. It was +after that that the regulator separated revenues from +regulation, just as we are proposing here. And it was after +that that they developed a different mode of regulation which +is known as the Safety Case where the particular risks that are +likely to be entailed in a particular well situation--that is, +with acknowledgement of the formation, the depth, the pressures +and all the rest, be explained by the company and the way in +which the company proposes to address those risks, he made +clear to the regulator. That is their system now. + Norway has a similar system and they came to it after their +catastrophe. Australia today, dealing with a blowout that +occurred last year, has had a commission of inquiry, and they +are reforming their own practices. + Mrs. Christensen. Are you seeing that happening now? + Mr. Reilly. We know that the industry is very seriously +examining the possibility and the practical challenges to +creating the safety institute of the sort we recommend. We very +much look forward to having the results of those inquiries, and +we very much hope that they will do something along the lines +that we have recommended. We think that it is very possible +that they will. We certainly know that several CEOs of major +companies take it seriously. + Mrs. Christensen. Thank you. + The Chairman. I thank the gentlelady. Mr. Coffman of +Colorado. + Mr. Coffman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, thank +you so much for your work and what you have accomplished. I +think you mentioned some things that need to be done from your +perspective, some kind of international agreement so there are +uniform standards. I think you talked about responsibility to a +spill or an accident if it occurs, having a better definition +of that. And perhaps some insurance requirements for viewing +that, liability issues. And I think what I am hearing from you +is that in terms of prevention--so the two aspects. One is +responding and the other one is prevention. + So in terms of prevention, I guess my question to you is, +did adequate regulations exist? But was it merely the +enforcement of the regulations that was a problem? Because +certainly we know that MMS had very significant problems. I +think there was an IG report in 2008 that talks about how +dysfunctional MMS was, and I think that we heard in this +situation here how the inspection simply didn't occur in the +manner that they were prescribed and were supposed to occur. + So sometimes we have problems I think where we actually +have laws on the books, regulations on the books but they are +simply not being enforced. So I think that when we look at what +is now the Bureau of Ocean and Energy Management, Regulation +and Enforcement that, Mr. Reilly, you know, it is reported that +you yourself said that personnel working for this agency are +``often badly trained.'' + Secretary Salazar has said that he has already considered +and executed some of the suggestions that your report has +highlighted. Hopefully effective training and a cultural shift +at his organization were implemented as well. + Do you believe that these reforms, among the others that +Secretary Salazar has said to have made, would have been +sufficient to correct the missteps that were made by MMS prior +to enduring the cleanup of the Deepwater Horizon spill? Let's +just go into the prevention. I mean, if, in fact, we had a +functional regulatory organization that was enforcing the +existing rules, would that have been adequate to prevent the +incident that occurred? + Mr. Reilly. Let me say, I think that the recommendations in +the new policies for scripted regulations that the Secretary +and the BOEMRE's Director Bromwich have imposed are very +desirable and likely to be effective. Negative pressure tests +are now prescribed. They were not before. There are a whole +range of new requirements that appear to us to make sense. But +the reality is that the existing personnel complement entails +an inspector for every 55 rigs. In California, it is one for +every six. The answers given to a series of interrogatories of +questions posed by the Interior Department, and the Coast Guard +in their investigations make clear that basic petrochemical +technologies, oil and gas technologies, like cementing and +centralizing negative pressure tests, are not really +understood, are not mastered by many of the inspectors who have +said, frankly, that they take industry's lead on those +technologies, that they have been evolving over time. + And we simply have to provide better formation, better +training, and I think better compensation for the people who +are conducting that work. So even if today the regulations are +sufficient to guard against the repetition of this set of +problems, I worry that in a fast evolving industry in 3 to 5 +years, they may be outdated. And in order to keep them up to +date, I think we are going to have to bring up the game among +the professionals at the agency. + Mr. Coffman. Senator Graham. + Mr. Graham. Yes. I would agree with that. And I believe +that our recommendations, such as the independence of the +safety function within the Department of the Interior, are as +important as the decisions that Congress made a number of years +ago to make the FBI a quasi-independent agency within the +Department of Justice. Just like the FBI, the safety function +within the Department of the Interior is susceptible to +political interference. And in fact, in the case of MMS, it was +rampant interference. And we think that it is a combination of +good regulations, competent capacity, adequate capacity, and +then insulation from inappropriate external influences that are +all part of what is necessary to get us up to world-class +standards of safety in this industry. + Mr. Coffman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back. + The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. Mr. +Sarbanes of Maryland. + Mr. Sarbanes. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thank you +all for being here. I know it has been a long day. + I first wanted to commend you on the report. I haven't had +a chance to read it from beginning to end, but I did look at a +summary. And I think your recommendations based on the findings +you have made are very, very helpful and will be for a lot of +us going forward. + My understanding, you have gotten some criticism about +whether you had everything in front of you, whether you had the +blowout preventer and so forth. But as I look at the +recommendations, they seem to me all to be confined to a kind +that you could make with a lot of confidence without having +that extra piece of information at your disposal. It doesn't +strike me that anything about your recommendations will be +changed in any kind of significant way based on other +information that comes forward because you have really derived +it from what you saw before you. + There was also a comment about your recommending layering +another bureaucracy on top of a failed bureaucracy. But as I, +again, read your recommendations, I think what you are doing is +suggesting a reasonable set of regulatory oversight which in +many ways will substitute for what has been a failed +bureaucracy. + On the issue of bureaucracy, I will ask you to respond to a +proposal. This is something I suggested in earlier iterations +of legislation suggesting the oil spill. It was a provision +that we tried to include in the CLEAR Act. And this would be a +requirement that the CEO of these corporations, these companies +would certify--personally certify with the potential for +liability to the adequacy and safety of the response plan, for +example. You talked about, and many have alluded to how these +response plans that were developed really across industry. It +was highlighted in BP's particular oil spill response plan but +were wholly inadequate. + So I would like you to speak to whether you think we ought +to give meaningful consideration, as I would like to see, to a +requirement on the part of the corporate CEO to certify that +these plans are, in fact, good plans and that they have done +due diligence in creating those plans. And you could do more in +terms of changing the culture of those companies with that one +sort of piece of leverage than a whole new bureaucracy could +do. So if you could speak to that, I would appreciate it. + Mr. Reilly. My own sense is that the way such +certifications would occur practically is the head of offshore +or North America would sign a certification. The chief +financial officer might sign a certification. The chief safety +and environment vice president would sign a certification. And +if all of those signatures were present, then the CEO would +sign. And I don't know that it would enhance the liability +assignment that you would like to see. + It might, from a personal point of view, more closely +involve, more intimately include a CEO in a decision that is +made; but as Mr. Hayward said, he didn't know anything about +the problems that characterized that well situation. He did not +know that it had been a troublesome well. He hadn't been +particularly involved in making decisions for it or apparently +didn't even know that it was coming in late. It is a very large +company. So I am not confident myself, based on my own +experience with boards of directors, that that would contribute +that much positively to safety, frankly. + Mr. Sarbanes. Do you think he would have bothered to know +more if he had been required to personally certify the safety +and adequacy of these plans? + Mr. Reilly. Well, he would have probably have had to sign +scores and scores of certifications without any individual +personal knowledge of the degree to which the characteristics +of the well situations were familiar to him. And so, I have +reservations about that particular recommendation. I had a +conversation with Mr. Waxman about it. I know that it was +strongly supported on the part of the Committee. But from my +point of view--it is not that common in other high-risk +industries either to try to fix the responsibility at the very +top. It is there anyway if the company encounters a $10 to $20 +to $30 billion expense, obviously. And now I think everybody's +attention is very focused on liability. And to my knowledge, +every company has stood down to examine their own +vulnerability, their own risk and get their practices improved. +But that is my personal judgment. I actually consulted our +senior technology adviser on that particular issue, and we gave +it some consideration within the Commission and did not go +forward with it. + Mr. Sarbanes. Mr. Chairman, can I get the Senator's answer +to that question? + The Chairman. If the Senator can do it in 15 seconds, which +is a test. + Mr. Graham. Your question was, would this be something +worthy of exploring. I think the answer to that question is, +yes. My colleague has done some of that exploring and has come +to the conclusion that he has but I think it is an issue. And +frankly, your father has given us the opportunity to move this +from being a theory to reality, and that it hasn't changed the +behavior of corporate executives, that under his legislation, +they now are required for public companies to sign personally +as to the accuracy of their financial statements. It would be +interesting to do some oversight and see what effect that has +been. And then you might be in a better position to evaluate +the potential applicability of offshore oil drilling. + The Chairman. You didn't quite do it, Senator. But + nice try. + Mr. Graham. Well, I got a little bit off. + The Chairman. Well, that is all right. You were talking to +the son of a Senator. I can understand why that happened there. + Mr. Duncan from South Carolina. + Mr. Duncan of South Carolina. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And +gentlemen, thank you for being here. I sat by this graph all +afternoon and I have studied it. And I want to comment on it. + Mr. Reilly. You are the only one who can read it. + Mr. Duncan of South Carolina. You have referenced it +several times today, and you have come to some conclusions that +I think are flawed and here is why. I spent some time on the +MMS OCS 5-year planning subcommittee where we looked at oil and +natural gas leases and came up with recommendations for the +next 5-year plan on where those leases would be granted. And it +struck me during the time that the only areas that we could +even talk about within that committee was deepwater western +Gulf of Mexico and deepwater Alaska. And nearshore--the 1,000 +foot and shallower areas on that grid--were off-limits for us +to even talk about for the next 5-year period. + So when you see an increase in activity in deepwater +exploration and production, I think it is directly attributable +to the fact that policies of the U.S. Government have pushed +oil exploration and production away from the shore, away from +the marshes and the rivers and other things to deep water. + So I think some of the conclusions you have come to based +on that chart that your graphics were flawed. So I want to make +those comments. Mr. Chairman, I hope that us on the Energy and +Minerals Subcommittee or this Committee will continue to look +at the policies that are in place that pushed it to deep water +and continue to look at nearshore, onshore, and other resources +going forward. + A couple of questions for you based on your report that are +on a whole different line of thinking, so bear with me. In your +report, you provide a short review of the fire-fighting efforts +and response to the disaster. And I want to commend the guys +that went out there on the rescue effort with our Coast Guard +and others. And this line of questioning has no bearing on +their efforts. But the lack of attention to this critical part +of the disaster has left many of us confused. + In the report, you state that others are going to study in +issue more completely. Can you tell me first--and there are +going to be three questions here--can you tell me first, in +your opinion, if you believe the fire-fighting efforts were +properly coordinated? That is number one. The second thing many +believe that fire fighting contributed to the sinking of the +rig and was there a possibility of saving the rig? And would +the rig not sinking have permitted the sub-sea blowout that we +saw? Was there a possibility to let the oil continue burning +and work on shutting off the flow of oil that was contributing, +that was the source of fuel for the fire? Or was the structural +integrity of that rig in jeopardy anyway? So if you could +answer those. And either one. + Mr. Graham. Well, I said that one of the lessons learned +was that we were very ill-prepared to respond, particularly in +the critical first hours and days of this. And I would suggest +that that included our ability to restrain fire under these +circumstances. If I could, I would like to go back to your +first comments. I think you have to also look at the issue of +depletion. We have been heavily mining for oil and gas in +shallow waters since 1938 and continue to do so today. + I believe that these charts are as much a function of the +reality that most of where the oil is today--the so-called +elephants of offshore oil--are not at 1,000 feet. They are more +likely to be at 5,000 or 10,000 feet, and that is why that is +where the industry is moving. But that might be a question that +your subcommittee could examine as to what are the factors that +have gone into---- + Mr. Duncan of South Carolina. We will pursue that at a +later time. Let's get back to the fire-fighting efforts and +what may have attributed. Because there are a lot of questions +in my district and around South Carolina and across the land +that I have heard. Do you think the fire-fighting efforts were +coordinated? Do you think that the rig could have sat there and +burned until we shut off the flow of oil underwater? And the +structural integrity of the rig, was it in jeopardy? Do you +have any input on that? + Mr. Reilly. The only thing I would say without wanting to +characterize a lot of activities that occurred in the chaos of +the fire and the response is that there were moments at various +times when well control could still possibly have been +established, when even the gases that were rising in the drill +pipe could have been diverted over the side and perhaps not +come into contact with the ignition source and not caught fire, +but that once the fire began, when we looked at transcripts of +reports of what it was like on that rig and how it seemed like +a jet airplane or a fast-moving train had just come out of the +drill pipe, I am not sure that there was a great deal that +could have been done that would have averted the disaster that +did occur. + It does occur to us, however, that the degree to which the +response to the emergency immediately was characterized by a +lot of chaos of one of the rescue boats leaving a number of +people still on the rig who then jumped into the water and did, +in fact, survive, people who made that choice and then +discovered those who were in the evacuation boat that they +couldn't get away from the rig, as it looked like it was going +to topple on them. And they discovered it was because they were +tethered by a rope and no one was allowed to have a knife on +the rig. So they had to look for a means of severing the rope. +It didn't appear to us--and I think the documentation supports +this--that there had been the kind of drills, simulations, +practices that would have been appropriate and I think probably +will be insisted upon in the industry in the future. And that +is one more change that needs to occur that we have really +learned a lesson from. + Mr. Duncan of South Carolina. Do you think the rig would +have continued burning. + The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. Mr. +Landry of Louisiana. + Mr. Landry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just for the record, I +did raise the Commission's credentials on my campaign to get +here. Maybe they weren't raising it here in June, but I sure +was in Louisiana. + Considering the industry's performance record in the Gulf +of Mexico, where over 42,000 wells have been drilled in +addition to 2,500 deepwater wells without any significant +incidents, in my opinion, reflects a successful risk +management, were these safety factors--and these are yes or no +questions--were these facts the success and history of all of +these wells that had been drilled out in the Gulf of Mexico, +were they taken into account when you did this report? + Mr. Reilly. Yes, sir. + Mr. Graham. Yes. + Mr. Landry. OK. Was there any economical analysis done +during the course of this report in terms of the impact on not +only the Gulf economy, but on the national economy as well? Was +that taken into account? + Mr. Graham. We know that tens of billions of dollars of +damage was done to the environment and the economy primarily of +the Gulf as a result of this spill. + Mr. Landry. So you say yes? + Mr. Graham. The answer is yes. + Mr. Landry. The President charged his Commission to +determine the cause of the disaster to improve the country's +ability to respond to spills and recommend reforms that make +offshore energy production safer. Prior to the accident, there +existed multiple layers of environmental reviews, including +multiple EISs at all of the different phases that DOI uses, +NEAs, environmental impact statements and environmental +assessments. These included an EIS during the development of +the 5-year review, and again, prior to the lease sales. Where +does the Commission receive both the authority and conclusion +that the need for review warrants any additional changes as I +find that no conclusion that had contributed to the accident or +to the impact of the cleanup? + Mr. Graham. Well, I think that the increasing emphasis on +NOAA, the Coast Guard, other agencies that represent the best +science in government, and our proposal to use best science +from outside the government all go to our interest in enhanced +safety, including understanding what are the risks at the +individual sites that are being suggested and what are the +potential adverse effects on the safety of those who will be +operating in that area and the environmental quality of the +Gulf. So the answer to your question is yes, we took those into +account as part of our overall assessment. We are aware of the +fact that the industry, and particularly certain companies +within the industry, have had a very strong safety record. + We are not saying that everybody was the same. But we are +saying that we think that the overall record in the Gulf is +stunningly below what is in the standard of the world. If our +aviation industry had a record by a 3-to-5-to-1 ratio, we were +killing more people in airplanes than, for instance, Great +Britain was, we would be pretty upset about why this was +happening. That happens to be about the case in this industry +between Norway and Great Britain and the U.S. We believe it is +in the spirit of America to want to be the best. + Mr. Landry. I am glad you brought that up, Senator. + Mr. Graham. And these recommendations will move us. + Mr. Landry. I am also confused that you would make the +suggestion of underreporting incidents in the U.S. because the +numbers are low. Are you aware that the industry, as a whole, +regards the European standards of reporting incidents much less +reliable than the U.S. standards? + Mr. Graham. I am not aware of the assessment of that by the +U.S. industry. I am familiar with the fact that our fatality +accident ratio is significantly different than it is in the +North Sea, which raises questions as to whether we are +capturing all of the accidents that, in fact, are occurring. I +am unaware of any evidence that would indicate that there +should be such a significant differential between the +fatalities and accidents in the Gulf and in the North Sea. + Mr. Landry. I will be supplementing some questions to you +all. + Mr. Reilly. If I could just add, we are aware that there +are very different ways of categorizing incidents, accidents, +fatalities, days lost and so forth, total recordables in the +North Sea versus the Gulf, different jurisdictions even between +the U.K. and Norway. + So some of those data need to be very closely scrutinized +to determine that you are dealing with oranges and oranges and +not apples and oranges. + Mr. Landry. On both sides you would agree, though? + Mr. Reilly. Yes, I would. + Mr. Landry. I want to make sure that it is not just a one- +way street. + Mr. Reilly. But the less disputable number is the fatality +number. It is a little harder to hide the bodies. So I think we +are confident that those numbers are as we found and that they +are disturbing. + The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. Mr. +Flores from Texas. + Mr. Flores. Mr. Chairman, thank you for holding today's +hearing. And Chairman Reilly, Chairman Graham, thank you for +joining us today. I know you have put in a lot of work on your +report and study and we appreciate you being here today. I have +an opening statement that I would like to give to the Chairman +for the record. I will dispense with that for now. + [The prepared statement of Mr. Flores follows:] + + Statement of The Honorable Bill Flores, + a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas + + Mr. Chairman, thank you for holding today's hearing, and let me +also take this opportunity to thank Chairman Reilly and Chairman Graham +for appearing before us today. + It has been nine months since the Macondo Well tragedy, and we all +grieve for the families who lost loved ones and for the environmental +and economic impacts along the Gulf coast. We can all agree that both +industry and the federal government need to examine all the facts +surrounding this incident and take the appropriate steps to ensure that +we continue to produce American energy with safe, environmentally sound +practices. Please know that I also lost a brother in an oilfield +accident, so I want the oil and gas industry to operate in a safe and +responsible manner. At the same time we should make sure that we +facilitate a robust oil and gas industry to fuel our economy and jobs. + For the past year and a half, the top concern that I've heard from +all Americans is jobs, economic growth, and balancing the federal +budget. We all know that our economic health is dependent on the energy +sector, especially as we see gas prices rising to more than $3.00 per +gallon. That being said, I'm afraid that the Obama Administration is +taking us in the wrong direction--locking away our own energy resources +and making us more dependent on foreign energy from unstable parts of +the world. Even our Treasury is taking a direct hit. With production in +the Gulf down due to the Obama Administration's moratorium, it is +costing them at least $3.7 million each day in lost revenue. + I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today and to working +with my colleagues on the committee to take what we've learned from the +Macondo Well incident and ensure that we have a robust domestic energy +sector that contributes to our economic recovery. + ______ + + Mr. Flores. It has been 9 months since the Macondo well +accident and we all grieve for the 11 families that lost loved +ones and for those that were injured and for the impact on the +families along the Gulf Coast. I want you to know from a +personal standpoint that I lost a brother in the oil drilling +business, so I have as much interest in conducting this +industry as safely as possible as anybody in this room. But +that said, I want to make sure that we facilitate a robust oil +and gas industry because it is integral to our economic +security and our military security. And as a person who is +actively involved in the offshore energy business for over 30 +years, I am keenly concerned about the recommendations in the +Commission's report. + I think it is interesting that you use the Three Mile +Island analogy because, as you pointed out, after Three Mile +Island, we have not started and completed the construction of a +nuclear power plant in 30 years. It appears we are headed down +the same road today with offshore drilling. We have a permit +moratorium, a de facto moratorium in deep water, and we have an +incredible slowdown in shallow water drilling. + Mr. Flores. And we are already seeing that show up in +higher oil prices, higher gasoline prices, and reduced economic +activity along the Gulf Coast. + Here is the issue. Congress has passed legislation. You +want Congress to consider legislation. The Department of the +Interior has issued new regulations. Lease sales have been +canceled. Other areas of potential offshore activity have been +put off-limits again. And it is all based on a report that +doesn't provide a full postmortem of what happened. + And here is the key phrase that is used that causes the +concern. You keep referring to systemic industrywide failure. +In chapter 4 of the report dated January 6th, you have +following key finding: The well blew out because a number of +separate risk factors, oversights, and outright mistakes +combined to overwhelm the safeguards meant to prevent just such +a happening. + But most of the mistakes and oversights in Macondo can be +traced back to a single overarching failure: a failure of +management. Better management by BP, Halliburton, and +Transocean would almost have certainly prevented the blowout by +improving the ability of individuals involved to identify the +risk they faced and to properly evaluate, communicate, and +address them. + So how can you reconcile between what has happened in the +offshore energy business today to calling a systemic failure--a +systemic industrywide failure to report, which really just gets +down to three companies. And we put the entire Nation's economy +in peril by doing this. + Let me give you an example. What if we find out after we +get the blowout preventer fully evaluated, it takes a $10 bolt +that could cure the problem 99.999 percent of the time, and +then this accident would essentially never happen. And that is +about the ratio of accidents to wells drilled that we have in +deep water. So, you know, we have gone overboard. + So why did we use those words, systemic industrywide +failure? Because that is what has caused the paranoia here. + Mr. Reilly. In 1963, Congressman, it was a single weld, as +I understand it, that sank the Thresher submarine. And the +SUBSAFE system was developed, and we have not lost a SUBSAFE +submarine since. We lost one every third year, on average, in +peacetime before that. + The reason that we concluded it is systemic--and I didn't +come in believing it was a systemic problem. I thought it was a +single company that had blundered fatally because of the very +large presence of those three companies throughout the oil and +gas industry in the deepwater and in the shallow water +throughout the world, BP is, I think, the largest explorer of +offshore oil and gas development. Transocean is the largest rig +operator. And Halliburton is the largest supplier of resource +help, such as cementing. + It is no longer possible for most companies to test the +cement, for example, that they are provided by Halliburton. +They no longer have the research capacity. Chevron does. Maybe +one or two more do. But most decided in the 1980s and 1990s to +contract that out. So the cement that is provided is the cement +that gets used. And the cement that was provided by the test +that Halliburton itself conducted and our commission had +conducted was faulty. + It is simply inconceivable to us that this was a problem so +exclusive, so specially circumstantial with respect to one rig, +especially since we know in Australia the cementing failed in +the Montara well, just a year and a half or so ago, also. + This is something that caused us to believe--and, again, +most of the people on that rig were Transocean employees, the +people who were responsible for responding to the emergency, as +I just described. That is the largest rig operator and owner in +the world. It operates for everybody. Everybody hires +Transocean. They also are implicated in this, in significantly +failing to detect gas rising in the drill pipe. + We concluded from that that all companies are at risk if +they are using these two contractors, or BP, itself, is +probably at risk in other places. + Now, we did hear--and we asked the Norwegian regulators, +are you taking any actions against BP? The answer was somewhat +surprising: ``No, we are not because we do not see issues in +the North Sea with respect to BP operations. And, therefore, we +have taken no action to discourage their continued operation.'' + That posed the question to us, well, what is it about the +North Sea and the Gulf that has our companies operating safely +and protectively in the North Sea, subject to a different set +of regulators, and not in the Gulf? And that caused us to look +very closely at the degree of oversight, the quality of +regulation, and the capacity of the regulators, which we also +fault. + The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. I +wanted to let that response come because that, I know, is very +important to the gentleman from Texas. + Mr. Rivera from Florida. + Mr. Rivera. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. + Thank you, gentlemen, for being here today. + Commissioner Graham, Senator Graham, as a Floridian and, I +believe, as my neighbor, are you still living in the Lakes, are +you still in Miami Lakes? + Mr. Graham. I am, yes. + Mr. Rivera. West of the Palmetto? + Mr. Graham. Yes. + Mr. Rivera. Well, I am right there with you, in Doral, +right down the road. So, as my distinguished constituent--as my +distinguished constituent and fellow Floridian, I know we share +a great concern for the economy and the environment of our +State of Florida. + One of the recommendations that you make in your report +addresses the need for greater international scrutiny, +international standards. As a representative from south +Florida, I am deeply concerned about the ongoing development +off the coast of Florida, ongoing oil development off the cost +of Florida, off the coast of Cuba in particular. + As you know, as we speak, there are a number of companies, +including Repsol, interested in drilling in the waters off of +Cuba. And I wanted to ask you, do you believe that this Cuban +drilling between the coast of Florida and Cuba will be done +safely? And what could the U.S. do to ensure that any lax Cuban +oversight doesn't threaten Florida and the Southeastern United +States? + Mr. Graham. I am concerned about the safety, the relative +lack of experience of the Cubans, in terms of being able to +oversee this activity. The record of some of the companies that +are being brought in to do this work is not comforting. + I believe that something analogous to what Mr. Reilly has +said, that we feed to have a Gulf of Mexico-wide set of safety +standards that would apply to any country touching the Gulf, is +the best assurance that the United States has against +inappropriate, unsafe practices in our backyard. + And I believe that there is sufficient interest, at least +between the United States and Mexico, to move forward in that +direction. And, as Mr. Reilly has indicated, the Mexicans have +suggested, at least, that they might be the interlocutory to +Cuba, to get it involved. + To me, it also underscores the importance of the United +States having the highest standards. If you go into a +negotiation and you are urging the other parties to take their +game up a notch and you have not already done that, your +persuasiveness is limited. To me, for our own protection and +for our ability to raise the standards in the Gulf, we need to +adopt policies such as those we have suggested. + Mr. Rivera. Well, to that end, following through on that, +do you believe that responsible domestic development in the +eastern Gulf of Mexico would result in additional oil spill +response capabilities being staged in Florida that could be +used to respond to a potential spill off of Florida from the +Cuban dictatorship's oil-drilling efforts? + Mr. Graham. You say in the eastern Gulf. Do you mean in the +U.S. waters or the Cuban waters? + Mr. Rivera. No, U.S. waters. + Mr. Graham. I don't know what the ultimate treaty might +say, but I would be surprised if it did not make it the +sovereign responsibility of each of the countries to provide +that kind of capability for those wells within their own area. + And I certainly don't think the United States ought to be +depending upon Mexico, providing them the containment and +response capability. We ought to do that. The Mexicans ought to +do it. And if the Cubans proceed with their plan, they ought to +do it. + So the answer would be no. + Mr. Rivera. Thank you. + The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. + Another gentleman from Florida, Mr. Southerland. + Mr. Southerland. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. + And thank you for your report. Thank you for appearing +before us today. + I am from Panama City, Florida. My district is the 2nd +District of Florida. I took my baby steps on the beaches of +Panama City. And I love our environment. And a day with my +family, with my children on Shell Island is a little piece of +heaven for me. + I will tell you, my community, dear friends of mine, were +deeply affected by this disaster. I just wanted to ask some +brief questions. + Number one, how much responsibility, in light of this +disaster, how much responsibility do you believe that the +government bears after having cited 790 violations? How much +responsibility do they bear? + Also, by refusing to waive the Jones Act and bringing in +oil ships that had the ability to clean up that oil, OK, by oil +leaders around the world that had produced those ships, how +much responsibility should be beared by this government? + Mr. Reilly. We did inquire into the application of the +Jones Act and the allegations that have been made, particularly +by the Europeans and a couple of commissioners of the European +Union, that we were keeping out Belgian and Dutch response +capability. And the response we received from the Coast Guard +is that their offers of help were looked at, largely not taken +into account, I guess mostly not taken into account, because +they were not considered necessary at the time or useful for +the particular task. + But I know that, in Mississippi, there were from France a +series of skimmers, six or eight skimmers or something, that +were brought in and were used. So it was possible, in other +words, to get out help from other countries. + My sense, frankly is that the Coast Guard was sufficiently +preoccupied with its own response, that vetting applications +from other companies and countries and other technologies was +probably something that in realtime they didn't have an awful +lot of time to give. + Mr. Graham. If I can just say, I think this goes back to a +theme of today, and that is, you don't do basic research while +fire is out of control. If you haven't done it before the fire, +it is not likely to be very effective. So I think that things +like the---- + Mr. Southerland. I understand, Senator. But when you have a +neighbor that is willing to bring a boatload of hoses, you +accept those hoses, and you say, you know what? My first +priority is to put out the fire. OK? + And I have to tell you, I get angered when I think of the +pain that we have experienced along that Gulf Coast, and I +think of my dear friends who are no longer in business. It +angers me. And yet today we want to talk about the +responsibility of BP and how they should self-regulate their +industry. When 790 violations were noted, that is incompetent. +And yet, you know, we have the idea that we are going to have +CEOs stand up and sign a letter of certification certifying +liability. I want Secretary of the Interior and regulatory +department heads to sign those same documents. OK? + The American people are tired of sending their money to +Washington, D.C., and Washington be the problem. I am angered +by the response of this government in light of this disaster. I +am angered by the same government that failed in its response +to Katrina. + And until we start looking inward and take personal +responsibility for the lives we are destroying instead of +assessing blame, it has to be somebody else's fault. The +responsibility is here. The buck stops here. + And I am bothered that this commission--Qdecisions, there +should be 10 down here. In the bottom, I wrote, ``government's +decision to aid and abet.'' Was there a less likely alternative +available? Yes. Less time than alternative? Yes, they save +time--decisionmakers--the Federal Government--onshore. + And I am bothered, OK, that we are just going to add to the +bureaucracy when the bureaucracy was the problem, in many ways. + Mr. Reilly. May I answer that question, Mr. Chairman? + The Chairman. You sure can. + Mr. Reilly. You raise an important question that we address +with respect to safety and personal safety, occupational safety +and health on the rigs themselves. Presently, when a rig is +under sail or in motion, it is the responsibility of the Coast +Guard to ensure safety. + We recommend that BOEMRE has the full responsibility on the +rig for safety personnel and that it understand and have the +capability to enforce that, so that there is not a division of +responsibility or a confusion about whether this is a delegated +responsibility from OSHA to the Coast Guard and the role of MMS +in all of this, that it be amalgamated in one agency. + On the Jones Act, the key issue, in my view, is to have +procedures in place ahead of time so that the extensive +permitting reviews and approvals by the State Department are +not necessary once the catastrophe may have occurred. + Mr. Graham. And that was what I was going to say, is that +you need to anticipate. And I would suggest that this Committee +could make a significant contribution in doing some serious +thinking about what are the questions, what are the resources, +what are the potential impediments when we have the next +disaster. It won't be exactly like this one, but we will have +more disasters. And how can we, by anticipating, take actions +that will avoid the hoses not being delivered. + Mr. Southerland. Yeah. + The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. + The gentleman from Pennsylvania, Mr. Thompson. + Mr. Thompson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. + Gentlemen, thank you for your testimony. + Someone had offered an airline analogy earlier. And as I +have looked at and read through and tried to synthesize this +commission's recommendations, if I applied the Commission's +recommendations to the airline industry, essentially, with one +airplane crash, we would shut down all airplanes and, frankly, +all airports. + I apologize for being late. I was in a workforce hearing, +and I had an opportunity to question Governor McDonnell from +Virginia. And, specifically, my questions were about the impact +of the Administration's response and shutting down offshore as +a result of this. + Here are some of the statistics. And I will be quick with +this, and then I have my questions. He indicated that, you +know, this industry would create more than 1,900 new jobs just +in Virginia, increase the State's gross domestic product by +$365 million annually, and generate approximately $19.48 +billion in Federal, State, and local revenues. + Senator Graham, Secretary Reilly, page 2 of your testimony +states, quote, ``But most of the mistakes and oversights of +Macondo can be traced back to a single overarching failure--a +failure of management by BP, Halliburton, and Transocean,'' end +quote. + And under the key facts, you also stated that the +investigation team identified several human errors, engineering +mistakes, and management failures. + You know, based on those statements, a logical person would +conclude that it wasn't the lack of adequate science and +engineering but the proper application of science and +engineering by those on the rig that resulted in the Deepwater +Horizon Macondo tragedy. + Basically yes or no, do you agree with that conclusion? + Mr. Graham. Well, I think part of the responsibility of +effective management is to understand the risk and take steps +to mitigate the risk. The fact is that there was no effective +plan in place or capability to implement a plan before this +accident occurred. + Mr. Thompson. So it sounds that you agree, it was +management. + Mr. Graham. I think that is a failure of management to do +effective risk analysis and take steps to mitigate the risk. + Mr. Thompson. Great. Thank you. + Secretary, any thoughts? + Mr. Reilly. I would support that. Yes, sir. + Mr. Thompson. OK. Thank you. + On page 7 of your testimony, you state, under the headline +of ``Reforming Industry Safety Practices,'' quote, ``Government +oversight must be accompanied by the oil and gas industry's +internal reinvention, sweeping reforms that accomplish no less +than a fundamental transformation of its safety culture,'' end +quote. + Internal reinventions, sweeping reforms, and fundamental +transformation, you know, frankly, of an entire industry is +what the implications are of the result of these +recommendations, frankly are words of alarm and cast a very +wide net. I assume they are based on a thorough review of the +hundreds of companies involved in U.S. energy production and +not just three companies, despite how large they are, that were +mentioned in the report. + Did the Commission conduct such a review? + Mr. Reilly. We conducted a review of the incident itself, +of accident data---- + Mr. Thompson. So your review---- + Mr. Reilly.--through the industry. + Mr. Thompson. I think if you answer my question, your +review was of three companies out of perhaps thousands. + Mr. Reilly. Well, it is of 79 losses of well control in the +last, whatever, 20 years or so, affecting a very large number +of companies operating in the Gulf. + Mr. Thompson. No, I understand. So the review--frankly, +there are 3,500--the number I looked at--3,500 rigs in offshore +production and thousands of companies engaged in production, +but the conclusion was really based on looking at three +companies? + Mr. Reilly. Well, the inferences drawn for the likelihood +of entailed risk with those three companies largely rest upon +what we learned from the experience of those three companies. +But we had significant data about many other companies and +their experiences that caused us to use the term ``systemic.'' + Mr. Thompson. And I appreciate, you know, that you are +taking that inference from there, but, essentially, the +inference is drawn from three companies but, frankly, casting a +pretty wide net with your recommendations, impacting thousands +of companies. + Mr. Graham. But if I could add to that, you made the +allusion to, and I had suggested, if the United States had a +four-fatalities-to-one ratio in airline accidents versus, let's +say, Norway or the United Kingdom, I believe the American +public would be outraged. That is the situation between the +North Sea and the Gulf of Mexico. And I don't think that one +company---- + Mr. Thompson. If I can reclaim my time, because I know I am +going to get gaveled out here--I am new on the Committee. + I think the American people would also be pretty irate-- +they would be saddened with the loss of one life in an airplane +accident, no doubt about it, and they would be concerned with +that airplane crash. But they would also be irate if the +Federal Government essentially shut down the entire airplane +industry, as opposed to really focusing on drilling down, no +pun intended, and systematically determining the root cause of +that airplane crash. + And I, obviously, am out of time. + Mr. Reilly. Congressman, neither Senator Graham nor I nor +our commission are here to defend the moratorium, not for a +minute. + Mr. Thompson. Very good. + The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. + That completes the first round, but several Members have +expressed an interest to follow up on their first questions. + And, Senator Graham, while I didn't ask you, I asked Mr. +Reilly, and he says, ``I have all the time in the world.'' So +he is going to have to answer to you if that is--you know, +however you want to work that. + Let me start--Mr. Grijalva had a follow-up, so let me +recognize Mr. Grijalva for 5 minutes. + Mr. Grijalva. Thank you very much. + And let me, at the outset, thank the gentlemen for your +presence here and for a compelling report. + The only question, I think--page 142 to 143 in your report, +you deal with the issue of the Jones Act that came up, that it +was not, indeed, an impediment to getting foreign assistance or +outside assistance to come to the aid of that spill. Also, +there are comments there, after the Governor insisted on those +berms, that they probably created more problems than they +solved. + But the question, I think, has to deal with the word that +some of my good friends found offensive, and that is the issue +of ``systemic.'' We have here--and I think your report is +compelling because it deals with the role of government and the +lack of oversight on the part of the Federal Government as a +contributing factor to the laxness that we found. And it deals +very directly with systemic issues that occur within the +management and the operation of the industry. + I think the report is compelling insofar as something needs +to be done. And if we want to raise the standard of oil +production offshore, where it is safe, both for life and for +the environment, then this report needs to be responded to. + The recommendations that you made for legislative action +are sound. I don't agree with all of your recommendations, nor +do I assume every Member agrees with everything in there. It is +a sound framework. There are principles in there that we must +deal with. I want to thank you for that, for the time that you +took and for, I would assume, the seriousness in which we are +going to take this report. + So thank you for your time, and thank you for the report. +As I said, compelling, necessary, and timely. + Thank you. + Mr. Reilly. Thank you, sir. + Mr. Graham. Thank you. + The Chairman. OK. I thank the gentleman. + Let me go to Mr. Landry of Louisiana. + Mr. Landry? + Mr. Landry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. + I am having trouble understanding how you all can come to +the conclusion that there are these systemic failures by using +those three companies and claiming that because those three +companies do such a large percentage of the work in the Gulf of +Mexico, that every time they go on a job they are using the +same protocols in engineering for the different customers that +they are doing business with. + That simply is not true. There are different well designs +that are in place by different oil and gas companies. Some of +those well designs, I might add, have been around since the +inception of deepwater drilling. + And so I don't understand how you came to this decision of +a systemic failure. Why not look at those oil and gas companies +who have drilled successfully, without incident, looking at the +well design and saying, this type of well design seems to be +the safest? In my opinion, it certainly would save the +taxpayers a lot of bureaucracy if you all took a look at those +different designs. + Did you all take a look at the different well designs? And +did you take in mind that they did not--that when those +contractors work for different oil and gas companies, they +don't follow the same protocols and engineering specs? + Mr. Reilly. We did look at the design of this particular +well, and at least two companies made clear to us that they +would not have chosen the design that BP did for that formation +in that place. + Mr. Landry. But, Mr. Reilly--and I apologize for cutting +you off, but you told me earlier that you all took into account +the 2,500 wells that were drilled in deep water. You told me +you took into account their history and their success. But yet, +now you are telling me you only took into account the well +design on BP, on BP's Macondo well. + Mr. Reilly. Well, the conclusion that the well design that +was used by BP at Macondo was not an appropriate one or is one +that created more risks than were necessary in the eyes of at +least two companies is based upon a judgment about alternative +well designs of the sort that you suggest. + Mr. Landry. Well, I am trying to clarify your answer. I +mean, did you look at the other well designs and take into +account that, when you issued your report telling us that there +is a systemic failure in the industry and that we have to +create these additional levels of bureaucracy, costing the +taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars, when you made that +recommendation, did you or did you not look at the history of +the other deepwater wells, the 2,500 or so, that have been +drilled in the Gulf of Mexico when you took into account +issuing this report? + Mr. Reilly. Yes. Yes, sir, we did. + And let me say, from the point of view of someone who +considers 1 in 2,500 not so impressive, frankly, if it is going +to cost $40 billion or $50 billion to the economy of the area +and to the company involved, I think we are drawing a different +conclusion from the success rate. + I regulated at the Environmental Protection Agency, with +respect to a number of issues, one in a million, which was the +maximum acceptable impact or fatality, mortality, premature +death associated with a certain kind of decision, a pesticide +decision, for example. So 1 in 2,500 doesn't impress me as a +very positive record, frankly. + Mr. Landry. Well, I certainly would like you to look in the +eyes of the people who are losing their jobs down in Louisiana, +who have built this industry, who have basically been drilling +since 1947 off of that coast, and tell them that. I can tell +you, from living down there, that safety is number one. It has +been for a very, very long time. + Mr. Reilly. Congressman, the decision to deny them their +jobs and to shut down every rig in the deepwater area, every +exploration rig, is one that I think is highly contentious, +excessive, and hard to justify. And I have made that clear, as +has Senator Graham, from the outset. + We would have approached this in a more selective fashion +so as not to penalize those companies that had not been +specifically implicated in the disaster after some short period +of review and inspection which did, in fact, take place, and +they were cleared. + So we are not here to defend the denial of jobs or against +the resumption of activity in the Gulf. Very much we want to +see it resume, but we want to see it resume safely and +effectively. + Mr. Landry. And may I put your name in as a recommendation +to take Ms. Browner's place then? + Mr. Graham. Congressman, I have to take some exception to +the statement that you made about that we are recommending +hundreds of millions of dollars of additional regulation. Yes, +we are recommending that there be an adequate, competent, +politically insulated safety function within the U.S. +Department of the Interior. I don't think those are radical +suggestions. + Number two, we are recommending that the industry, as other +high-risk industries have done, assume more responsibility for +their own evaluation of safety. That is no cost to the U.S. +Government and, I think, is a very prudent suggestion to the +industry and one which will contribute to the industry's long- +term viability. + So I would just--if you see something in our report that +you think is hundreds of billions of dollars, or millions of +dollars, of additional expense and an excessive addition to +bureaucracy, I would like to be directed toward that, because +that was not our intention. + The Chairman. The time of the gentleman has expired. + Mr. Flores? + Mr. Flores. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. + With the backdrop that I introduced earlier today, and that +is that we have lease sales that have been canceled, offshore +areas that have been taken off the availability list to be +drilled on in the future, higher gas prices, lower domestic oil +production, lost jobs, a hurt economy, with that--and a lot of +that is because this report is being relied upon to continue +moratoria, either de facto or regulatory or however they want +to be described. And it goes back to this ``systemic, +industrywide failures'' comment. + Co-Chairman William Reilly stated, in your January 6th +release, on chapter 4's release, ``My observation of the oil +industry indicates that there are several companies with +exemplary safety and environmental records. So a key question +posed from the outset of this tragedy is, do we have a single +company''--that being BP--``that blundered with fatal +consequences, or a more pervasive problem of a complacent +industry? Given the documented failings of both Transocean and +Halliburton, both of which served the offshore industry in +virtually every ocean, I reluctantly conclude that we have a +systemwide problem.'' That is your quote. + Now, Mr. Reilly, based on what I see of the internal +inconsistency and the weight which this report is being given +and the energy future of this country, I would respectfully ask +the Commission if they will amend the report to remove the +words ``systemwide industry failure.'' Will you do that? + Mr. Graham. Congressman, how would you defend the presence +of walrus protection and polar bears in a response plan? Or how +would you defend Mr. Hayward's telling me there is no subsea +containment capability? Or the inadequacy of the response +technology and the failure to invest in it over the last 20 +years after we experienced the disaster in Prince William +Sound? I think these speak for themselves. + And the response plans were not confined to the three +companies. All the majors that we looked at had literally the +same response plans and the same concern for walruses and the +dead expert and all the other things we know. And several CEOs +have said they found it embarrassing and were humiliated by it. +And that had a lot to do with their decision to create the +Marine Well Containment Corporation, which is a very +significant and positive step on the part of the industry. + So I don't think that you can infer anything other than, +``Well, it sure looked like complacency.'' And when people say, +``We never thought it could happen''--and I include myself in +that--we were complacent. I think the government was, the +industry was, I was. + Mr. Flores. Well, again, the application for permits that +are filed are based on pretty much cookie-cutter requirements +that the MMS--or what was formally called MMS used to issue. + Mr. Reilly. And I don't exempt them from the criticism. + Mr. Flores. OK. And so, maybe there was a regulatory +failure---- + Mr. Reilly. Uh-huh. + Mr. Flores.--as part of it. I think we all agree that there +was. And we all agree that BP had an integral part to play in +this failure. + But, unfortunately, what has been condemned here is the +entire industry, as well as the energy security of this +country, going forward. And I think it goes back to those +words, ``industrywide, systemic failure.'' + And I just--I would respectfully disagree with you. I don't +think that we have that type of a failure. And I would like to +state for the record, I think those words ought to be struck +from the report. + Mr. Reilly. Well, let me just say that our report is 11 +days old, and the degree to which there has been a delay in +issuing permits or a de facto moratorium that has been referred +to, I don't think has anything to do with this report. And we +certainly don't expect or didn't intend that we would +contribute to that. + We, in fact, were assuming that a number of these +recommendations could be implemented coterminously with the +resumption of activity on the part of the companies that +weren't in any way involved in the Macondo disaster. + Mr. Flores. Thank you. + I yield back. + Mr. McClintock. [presiding.] The gentleman yields back. + Congressman Thompson? + Mr. Thompson. Thank you, Chairman. + Just one additional question. On page 6 of your testimony, +under the heading ``Environmental Review,'' you state that the +Commission recommends, quote, ``a more robust and more formal +interagency consultation process in which NOAA, in particular, +is provided a heightened role, but ultimate decision-making +authority is retained by the Department of the Interior,'' end +quote. + And my question--and I wanted to get your rationale behind +it. Obviously, you know, the role of NOAA was of great concern +to the Commission. My question actually is, shouldn't the +Departments of Energy and Commerce have an equal, if not +greater, voice in NOAA in the formulation of rules and +regulations that certainly have a great influence on our +domestic energy production? + Mr. Graham. Well, just let me clarify. NOAA is part of the +Department of Commerce. So, I assume, through NOAA---- + Mr. Thompson. Commerce was involved. How about Energy? + Mr. Graham. Yeah, Department of Commerce would be involved. + What we were focusing on there, I mentioned it in my +opening statement. A key fact to understand is that the +relationship of the U.S. Government to the offshore oil +industry is not just as a regulator. It is not like the +relationship of the Department of Transportation to the bus +industry of America. It is also the relationship of the owner +of the property. All of that property out there in the Gulf of +Mexico, beyond the State limits, belongs to the people of the +United States of America. + We have made a decision that we will lease portions of that +to oil companies under certain conditions to evaluate and, if +found, extract oil and gas. We have the same interests that, if +you owned a small shopping center, you don't want to have a +tenant in your center who is trashing it and is going to make +it impossible for other tenants to have a profitable +enterprise. + So I think we need to put ourselves in the position of, +what should we be doing to assure that our children and +grandchildren will have a Gulf of Mexico that is of a quality +that we would be proud to hand over to them as our inheritance. + I think these recommendations, and particularly the +recommendations of bringing the best science--and we think the +Department of Commerce and NOAA represents the best science in +this area--to bear, in terms of what should be the conditions +of our proposed tenant to lease our property, is not an +imprudent thing to do. + Mr. Thompson. OK. + Well, one of the--as I came to Congress 2 years ago, one of +the things that just appalled me--and, you know, this is over +different administrations, different parties--is the absolute +lack of a national energy plan in this country. And when we are +talking about the Outer Continental Shelf and offshore +resources or onshore resources, you know, frankly, the Energy +Department was formed for that very purpose, to achieve energy +independence, I guess, in the 1980s when it happened. It has +failed miserably. But I think one of the proper steps, +obviously, would be involved in this type of a process. + Mr. Graham. I am completely in agreement with that. In +fact, it was my position, and I think this is reflected in the +report, that you can't answer the question, ``What is the +future of the offshore industry?'' without answering the larger +question, ``What is our energy policy in the United States?'' + I was telling Bill, and he had already seen it, that in +yesterday's newspapers there were some articles about the fact +that the RAND Corporation had raised questions about whether +the U.S. military could convert to a less fossil-dependent +Navy, Air Force, Army. And they raised serious doubts about +whether that could be done, which, to me, just underscores the +importance of this industry for our fundamental national +security. + Mr. Thompson. Great. Well, thank you. + Thank you, gentlemen, for your testimony. I have additional +questions, but we will forward those along. Thanks. + Mr. McClintock. Thank you. + Mr. Grijalva? + Mr. Grijalva. Thank you. + And this, gentlemen, I swear, are the last questions. We +all need to be outside, enjoying the blizzard that is +happening. + Mr. McClintock. Why not stay here? There is no place else +to go. + Mr. Grijalva. Gentlemen, both of you have said that the +resumption and full production of offshore drilling, in terms +of energy production, is something that you want to see and +that could be occurring as we make the other kinds of +adjustments that we have to make to make this industry safer +and our role as a government stronger. + And one of the key recommendations that the Commission made +is that the Federal oil and gas regulators that have been +underfunded--I think they are getting less now than they did 20 +years ago--that we create a dedicated funding stream for oil +and gas fees to fund this, so it is well-trained, professional, +a level of--an insulation of independence. + And yet, as we are talking about this and the critical need +to deal with the production issue that has come up consistently +here by my colleagues, we are also talking about reductions to +2006 levels, to 2008 levels, based on the resolutions that we +are dealing with on the Floor. + So, at some point, this full production restoration idea +and concept that you support as commissioners, with the +backdrop of not ever meeting the Commission report in terms of +providing a robust oversight regulatory function for government +that is independent, how do you reconcile that one opinion with +the lack of resources on the other end? + Any comment would be fine. + Mr. Graham. Well, it is our recommendation that, like is +the case with most other industries, industries who don't have +this additional characteristic of being our tenants, we expect +the airline industry, the telecommunications industry, across +the board virtually, to pay for their own regulation. They are +self-funded regulation. We did not see any compelling reason +why that should not be true of this industry. So that would be +our basic recommendation. + That would take action by the Congress if, for instance, +there were--as there is now for the oil liability fund--a fee +attached to each barrel of oil. I believe that is for both +imported as well as domestically produced, which goes into that +fund. Maybe we need to have a supplemental stream to go into a +fund for the regulation of the industry so that we can assure +to the industry that we will have a competent, sustained +ability to assure safety and---- + Mr. Grijalva. Well, Senator, on my question, if I may, you +see a linkage and not an either/or proposition? + I21Mr. Graham. I mean, either/or---- + Mr. Grijalva. Either you have the regulatory capacity and +the resources to deal with the demand for full production, and +if that linkage doesn't occur, is it an either/or proposition? + Mr. Graham. No, my---- + Mr. Grijalva. Can you have one without the other? + Mr. Graham. Well, the answer is, I don't think it is in the +interest of the American people not to have adequate standards, +again, in part, because we have just seen what the consequences +are to a lot of very innocent people, and we have seen what the +consequences are to an important piece of real estate that +belongs to all of the people of America. + Mr. Grijalva. Yeah, I think the question is, reducing +Interior's levels to 2006-2008 that directly impact your +recommendation, in terms of building up the resource capacity +and the overall capacity of regulators and oversight, that, I +think, does not help the safety demands for offshore drilling +that is also a part of the recommendations. + Mr. Reilly. We are quite clear that the quality of +regulation has been insufficient; that an industry which did +not used to be a high-risk industry, as it has proceeded so +heavily into deep water, has become that. The industry, itself, +needs to take the steps that are suggested by this catastrophe, +but so does government. + Other governments have done so after their own +catastrophes. We have mentioned the United Kingdom and Norway, +which responded to very severe accidents that they had by +separating the revenue-generating function from the regulatory +function and significantly improving the quality of their +regulator. + Senator Graham mentioned that, in the United Kingdom, the +oil and gas industry lobbies for more appropriations for the +regulator, because they recognize that quality in the +regulator--as did Mr. Tillerson, the Chairman of ExxonMobil, in +his testimony before us, and Mr. Odum, the President of Shell +USA. Both of them mentioned the quality of regulation as +essential to the quality of industrial activity. + That is all we are really suggesting. So, to try to save +money at BOEMRE, at this point, having seen that budget go down +20 percent over the last 20 years as the oil and gas production +in the Gulf went up 300 percent, is really penny-wise and +pound-foolish. + Mr. Grijalva. Thank you, sir. + The Chairman. [Presiding.] The time of the gentleman has +expired. + Mr. McClintock of California? + Mr. McClintock. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. + First, I would like to ask unanimous consent to insert into +the record the Wood-MacKenzie report commissioned by the +American Petroleum Institute, entitled, ``The Impact of Gulf of +Mexico-Deepwater Permit Delays on U.S. Oil and Natural Gas +Production, Investment, and Government Revenue,'' dated +December 2010, which I cited earlier. And I have souvenir +copies for our lucky panelists. + The Chairman. Without objection, so ordered. + Mr. McClintock. Thank you. + [NOTE: The report entitled, ``The Impact of Gulf of Mexico- +Deepwater Permit Delays on U.S. Oil and Natural Gas Production, +Investment, and Government Revenue'' has been retained in the +Committee's official files.] + Mr. McClintock. I would also like to ask unanimous consent +to include the Wall Street Journal editorial which I +referenced. + The Chairman. Without objection, so ordered. + [The Wall Street Journal editorial follows:] + + Gulf Political Spill + +Wall Street Journal +Editorial dated January 13, 2011 + President Obama's drilling commission released its 398-page report +on the causes of the Gulf oil spill this week, and talk about a lost +opportunity. After six months of hearings and interviews, the +commission still doesn't know what caused the accident but does think +it knows enough to condemn all and sundry. + The disaster, we are told, was primarily the result of +``overarching failure of management'' \1\ by BP, Transocean and +Halliburton--which is hardly news to anyone who's been paying +attention. Yet the commission didn't stop with the companies that +managed the Macondo well, going on to blame the highly unusual blowout +on a ``system-wide problem'' of failed regulation and a complacent +industry that requires ``significant reform.'' +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + \1\ Page 90 of the full Obama Spill Commission Report +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + These sweeping conclusions are remarkable from a commission that +admits to knowing so little. The report cites several questionable +decisions made by Macondo drillers as the ``immediate causes'' of the +blowout, only to acknowledge it can't say which, if any, were the +cause: + ``It is not clear whether the decision to use a long +string well design contributed directly to the blowout.'' \2\ +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + \2\ Page 115 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + ``The evidence to date does not unequivocally establish +whether the failure to use 15 additional centralizers was a direct +cause of the blowout.'' \3\ +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + \3\ Page 115 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + ``Whether ... `unconverted' float valves contributed to +the eventual blowout, has not yet been, and may never be, established +with certainty.'' \4\ +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + \4\ Page 116 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + Unable to name what definitely caused the well failure, the +commission resorts to a hodgepodge of speculations. Adding to the +confusion, it acknowledges it could find no evidence that BP or its +contractors ``consciously chose a riskier alternative because it would +cost the company less money.'' The commission didn't even wait to get +an autopsy of the failed blowout preventer, which is rusting on a +Louisiana dock. + The report's one firm conclusion boils down to this: In the hours +preceding the explosion, crew members missed ``critical signs'' that +something was wrong. ``The crew could have prevented the blowout--or at +least significantly reduced its impact--if they had reacted in a timely +and appropriate manner.'' \5\ This is called human error, in this case +with tragic consequences to those who erred. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + \5\ Page 120 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + Yet it's hardly evidence that the entire drilling industry is an +accident waiting to happen, as the commission insists. Its section +``The Root Causes: Failures in Industry and Government'' \6\ uses +questionable decisions made by the Macondo players to suggest, with no +evidence, that such behavior is the industry norm. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + \6\ Page 122 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + The report fails to reconcile this indictment with the industry's +prior safety record, or with the fact that many countries have modeled +their drilling technology and practices on those of the Gulf. For a +better account of how unusual the Macondo practices were, we recommend +the June 11, 2010 letter to the editor in this newspaper from Terry +Barr, the president of Samson Oil and Gas. + The commission nonetheless offers an array of recommendations, most +of which would severely restrict oil and gas drilling. Despite +President Obama's promises that the new Bureau of Ocean Management +(formerly the Minerals and Management Service) is now a shipshape +regulator, the commission recommends that Congress create another +agency to supervise drilling. Now, there's a new idea--another layer of +bureaucracy to supervise the bureaucracy that failed. + The report also advocates toughening the National Environmental +Policy Act to make it harder for companies to obtain drilling leases. +Another section doubts it is possible ever to drill safely in Alaska or +the Arctic--a hardy perennial of the anti-oil lobby. + This was all too predictable given the political history of +commission members. Former Democratic Senator Bob Graham fought +drilling off Florida, William Reilly is the former head of the +antidrilling World Wildlife Fund, and Frances Beinecke ran the Natural +Resources Defense Council, which is opposed to carbon fuels. Not a +single member was a drilling engineer or expert in oil exploration +technology or practices. + Compare this to the Rogers Commission, which investigated the +Challenger space shuttle disaster of 1986. Led by former Secretary of +State William P. Rogers, that group included theoretical and solar +physicists, engineers and aeronautics specialists. The commission +located the exact cause of the disaster (failed O-rings) and prescribed +precise safety changes. The preface of the Rogers report states that +the only way to deal with such a failure is to investigate, correct and +``continue the program with renewed confidence and determination.'' + The unbalanced, tendentious nature of the commission report +vindicates those who suspected from the start that this was all a +political exercise. The White House has been pounded on the left for +agreeing to ease drilling restrictions before the spill, and now it is +looking for support to walk that back. Though the Administration +officially lifted its Gulf drilling moratorium and issued new safety +rules two months ago, it has refused to permit a single new well. + U.S. gasoline prices are now above $3 a gallon, and the decline in +Gulf drilling will not help supply. Forecasters predict domestic +production will fall at least 13% this year due in part to the Gulf +lockdown. Meanwhile, last week the British Parliament rejected a +drilling moratorium in U.K. waters on grounds it would cause +``expertise to migrate,'' decrease ``security of supply'' and harm the +British economy. + The BP spill was a tragedy that should be diagnosed with a goal of +preventing a repeat, not in order to all but shut down an industry that +is vital to U.S. energy supplies and the livelihood of millions on the +Gulf Coast. + ______ + + Mr. McClintock. Mr. Chairman, if I were to summarize what +we have learned today, it is this: We faced an engineering +issue. A blowout preventer failed, and it failed +catastrophically. It caused enormous environmental and economic +devastation. + Before this commission was empaneled, we did not know why +that blowout preventer failed. After the Commission concluded +its work and issued this report, we still don't know why that +blowout preventer failed. We don't know why it failed because +the Commission never even bothered to look at the blowout +preventer, which, according to the Wall Street Journal, is +rusting on a dock in Louisiana. + We have never had a blowout failure like this one. Until we +find out why it failed, it could happen again. It could happen +at any time. And the Commission has not advanced our +understanding of how to prevent it one bit. + The contrast between this commission's work and the Rogers +Commission after the Challenger disaster is staggering. If the +Rogers Commission had operated in the same manner, we would +still have no idea what caused the Challenger to explode or how +to prevent it in the future. + We have before us a report offering bureaucratic +prescriptions to an engineering problem, authored by +bureaucrats, rather than an engineering prescription authored +by engineers. + I don't know exactly how the Committee would advance the +issue from here. I certainly seek the Chairman's guidance. But +I would recommend that we take whatever action is necessary to +empanel a panel of engineering experts to go down to that dock +in Louisiana, retrieve that blowout preventer, tear it apart +piece by piece, find out what caused it to fail, and do so +before it happens again. + Mr. Reilly. Would the gentleman yield? I would just respond +to that, if I might. + Sir, I think that you can draw an analogy between the +blowout preventer and a seatbelt in an automobile accident. It +is obviously important to the survival of someone that the +seatbelt wasn't fastened, but it doesn't really explain why the +accident occurred. + We explained why the accident occurred. We fingered and +identified, I think, all of the major contributors, the +decisions, and their technological consequences, their +engineering consequences that led to the disaster. + Examining the blowout preventer is not going to cause those +other facts that we uncovered to go away. They are there. They +are distressing. They do have implications for policy, and we +tried to draw them. + The Chairman. Well, I want to thank both of your witnesses +for being here today. I know you had a long day. You started at +10 o'clock in the Senate. And I very, very much appreciate your +willingness to stay here so some of our Members could have +another explanation or a clarification of what is going on. + I know that there will be some other questions that +Members, probably on both sides, would like to ask you. And if +you would agree to respond in writing to those questions, we +would very much appreciate that. + Mr. Reilly. We will do that, Mr. Chairman. We have a staff +I think for another 5 weeks, 4 weeks. + The Chairman. OK, great. + Mr. Reilly. And we will use them to the very end, to the +extent they allow that. + I would just like to say, we very much appreciate the +attentiveness, the interest of this Committee, the thoroughness +of the kinds of questions that we received, and understand the +seriousness of different kinds of concerns about our report and +about the conclusions that we drew. + We hope it is helpful to the deliberations of the Committee +and that the relatively modest proposals we have made are +looked at seriously and perhaps implemented. As I mentioned, I +think they are modest in terms of cost and bureaucracy +disruption. + The Chairman. Well, I thank you for that. + And let me just mention and, again, reiterate what I said +at the start of this, at the start of when the BP well broke, +that we had to find out what went wrong. We will continue to do +that. And, as I mentioned in my opening statement, there are +two more reports out. We will look at what they have to say and +draw, hopefully, some conclusions from that. + But I also will reiterate what I also said in my opening +response. What we do here will send a very, very strong signal +into what I think is very, very critical long term. And long +term is the energy security of our country. You alluded to +that. So the balance we have to make is make sure that we +continue to have a robust industry, especially in a down +economy. + So, with that, I want to thank all of the Members again for +being here, and especially for the two of you to stay for this +long time. + And, with that, if there is no further business, the +hearing stands adjourned. + [Whereupon, at 5:16 p.m., the Committee was adjourned.] + + [Additional material submitted for the record follows:] + + [The prepared statement of Mr. Holt follows:] + + Statement of The Honorable Rush D. Holt, + a Representative in Congress from the State of New Jersey + + Thank you Chairman Hastings and Ranking Member Markey for holding +this hearing today on the final report of the National Commission on +the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling. I look +forward to hearing from the distinguished co-chairs of the Commission; +Senator Graham and Mr. Reilly on the findings of the Report. + Although the oil has stopped gushing into the Gulf, the crisis is +far from over. The Report to the President from the Commission made one +point all too clear. The BP Deepwater Horizon Spill is not an isolated +incident. As long as we continue to drill for gas and oil off our +shores it is not a question of if, but when the next oil spill is going +to happen. + Our existing regulatory system is inefficient, plagued with loop- +holes for big oil companies, and all too often lets polluters off the +hook while exposing taxpayers to economic harm. + One of the issues that I am pleased that the Commission addressed +in the Report is that of liability limits for oil and gas companies as +the result of an oil spill. Since the spill began I have been concerned +about the fisherman, the hotel owner, the tourism operator and those +whose livelihoods depend on the Gulf. Under the Oil Pollution Act (OPA) +of 1990, oil companies are required to cover the full costs of +``removal.'' However the law set a $75 million cap for economic and +natural resources damages. + Many of us breathed a sigh of relief when BP established a $20 +billion escrow account to compensate individuals and businesses for the +damages inflicted by the spill. So far they have paid over $2.5 billion +in economic damages from the spill, demonstrating that the current $75 +million liability cap remains a laughable amount. + When the next spill occurs--and it's a matter of when, not if-- +there is no guarantee that the next oil company can or will cover all +damages. We shouldn't wait for that spill to occur to make the +necessary legal changes to ensure that companies like BP pay for every +last cent of the mess they made. + This is why today I, along with 17 of our colleagues, introduced +the Big Oil Bailout Prevention Act which would eliminate the liability +cap for economic and natural resources damages. + The report reinforces the need for this legislation, finding that +the current liability cap ``limits liability well below levels that +might actually be incurred'' and that the ``cap distorts the incentives +of industry participants to adopt cost-effective safety precautions.'' + The liability cap is just one of the issues that need to be +addressed by Congress in the wake of this report. The Commission's +Report states that without Congressional action, we cannot ensure that +the Department of Interior will have the tools necessary to protect +America's coastal communities economic and environmental interests, or +guarantee the safety of our nation's oil and gas rigs for workers. I am +proud to be a cosponsor of legislation introduced by Ranking Member +Markey today that would implement all of the much needed reforms cited +in the Report. I look forward to hearing from our distinguished +speakers today and to work with my colleagues to implement these much +needed reforms. + ______ + + [The prepared statement of Mr. Landry follows:] + + Statement of The Honorable Jeffrey M. Landry, + a Representative in Congress from the State of Louisiana + + Thank you, Chairman Hastings, for calling this hearing and for +starting this Congress off on the right foot with responsible and +meaningful oversight. I can think of no better way to start a new +tradition of oversight than reviewing the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil +Spill Commission Report. + Many thanks to the Chairman for also giving me time to express the +views of many of my constituents who have not had an opportunity to +make known their grievances with the recommendations of the Commission. + I would also like to thank Senator Bob Graham and the Honorable +William Reilly for coming before this committee to answer, what I +believe will be tough but fair and very important questions. + Let me state that the tragic accident of April 20, 2010 cannot be +ignored nor minimized. This disaster killed eleven workers and +generated one of the largest oil spills in United States history. Many +Louisianans were affected by the explosion on the Gulf and the +subsequent waves of oil that blanketed our coastline. + While this accident cannot be ignored, it can also not be employed +as justification for debasing the entire offshore drilling industry. + My first priority is always the safety and economic well-being of +my constituents in Coastal Louisiana. After analyzing and evaluating +the Commission's broad range of recommendations, I have some concerns +that I would like for our witnesses to address today. + First, I would like to express my concerns with the Commission's +recommendation of continued overlapping of new and existing regulatory +agencies within the Department of Interior. I believe that more +agencies at the Department of Interior and at the Bureau of Ocean +Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement (BOEMRE) will ultimately +create more red tape without improving human or environmental safety. + Moreover, the proposed regulations will delay offshore oil +production and will prolong Louisiana's high unemployment rate. Thus, +the Commission's recommendations are diametrically opposed to the +Administration's own stated goals of reducing unemployment and +lessening our dependence on foreign oil. + Furthermore, I am disappointed that the Commission does not address +the economic and labor impacts of actually implementing all the +Commission's recommendations. + A scant eight days ago, President Obama signed an Executive Order +stating that government regulations should ``take into account benefits +and costs'' and ``further economic growth, innovation, competitiveness +and job creation.'' Again, the Commission's report runs directly +counter to the Administration's own stated goals. + Specifically, I am frustrated that the Commission failed to address +the economic factors of the President's offshore drilling moratorium-- +including the number of lost jobs, wages and oil revenue to the United +States Treasury. The moratorium has already reduced United States oil +production and has cost numerous Louisiana jobs. I believe these facts +needed to be fully addressed in the report. + Finally, I believe we need to make sure that effective, efficient +reforms are made to improve safety while still allowing drilling to be +conducted in the Gulf of Mexico. Rest assured, I will continue to work +with my fellow like-minded colleagues on the Natural Resources +Committee to create and keep jobs in the offshore energy sector. + ______ + + [The prepared statement of Mr. Wittman follows:] + + Statement of The Honorable Robert J. Wittman, + a Representative in Congress from the State of Virginia + + Chairman Hastings, thank you for holding this important oversight +hearing. Senator Graham and Administrator Reilly thank you for your +presence here today and for your efforts leading the President's +National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore +Drilling. + The fire, sinking and loss of the 11 crewmembers of the Deepwater +Horizon drilling rig was a true tragedy. The Gulf region is still +recovering from the economic and ecological impact of the oil spill. + We must make every effort to ensure that federal agencies are +effectively structured to regulate offshore drilling, while protecting +the environment and meeting our nation's energy demands. + Since the oil spill significant steps have already been taken to +improve safety standards for the oil and gas industry. Structural +reforms at the Department of Interior by Secretary Ken Salazar have +fundamentally altered the regulatory body responsible for offshore +drilling. These new regulations and structure address many of the key +government oversight failures that led to the Gulf oil spill. +Additionally, the oil and gas industry has taken steps to develop +advanced technology that would lessen the likelihood of similar +catastrophic blowouts. These and other steps have already made the +offshore industry safer. + It is appropriate to carefully review and ensure that offshore +energy production is appropriately regulated and conducted in a safe +and environmentally sensitive manner. However, it is also critical that +we promote responsible American made energy, including oil, natural +gas, nuclear, coal, and renewable energy. Unfortunately, the +Commission's report on balance includes proposals that would ultimately +restrict domestic energy production with little measurable increases in +safety. Of particular concern is the Commission's implicit support for +the Administration's ongoing moratorium on energy development in the +Atlantic Ocean. + Virginia has the opportunity to develop offshore energy in an +environmentally friendly manner and lead the nation in improving our +energy security and creating thousands of jobs. The economy of Virginia +will benefit tremendously from the demand for goods and services +created by offshore development. + Promoting offshore oil and gas development is one tool in an ``all +of the above'' energy strategy that is necessary to meet our nation's +growing needs. In addition to oil and gas, Virginia has the potential +to develop offshore windmills and other types of renewable energy. All +of these forms of energy are necessary to meet the challenges of the +21st Century. + I look forward to continuing to move Virginia towards energy +independence, offshore energy development and job creation. + ______ + + [The response to questions submitted for the record by Mr. +Reilly and Senator Graham follows:] + + Response to questions submitted for the record by the National + Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling + +Chairman Doc Hastings (WA-R)--Questions + Question: Acknowledging that the U.S. will have less domestic + production from the OCS in the foreseeable future; does the + Commission have any recommendations as to where Congress should + promote domestic oil and gas development to offset those + losses? + Response: The Commission does not foresee that any of its +recommendations will lead to less domestic production from the OCS in +the foreseeable future. The Commission instead concluded that the +Macondo well blowout was fully preventable and that deepwater drilling +in the Gulf can be done safely in the future with appropriate +safeguards, all of which are readily achievable. The only threat to +domestic production from the OCS would be the failure of industry and +government to take those necessary steps to restore safe drilling to +the Gulf. + Question: The Commission dealt primarily with offshore production, + would the Commission encourage greater onshore oil and gas + production from federal lands where an oil spill would be less + complex to clean up and mitigate? + Response: The Commission did not consider the comparative safety of +onshore and offshore drilling because the President's charge to the +Commission was limited to the viability of offshore drilling, +especially in deep waters. Because, moreover, the Commission concluded +that deep water drilling in the Gulf can be done safely and those deep +waters are where significant oil and gas resources exists, the +Commission never had occasion to determine whether onshore production +was needed as a substitute for offshore drilling. + Question: According to press reports, after the Commission released + some of its findings, companies came forward with information + that rebutted specific statements in the Commission's report. + Since the Commission doesn't appear to have incorporated the new + information provided after the press leak in the final report, + how will that new information be utilized and made available to + the public? + Response: The Commission has received no information from companies +since the release of the Commission's final report that has refuted any +of the Commission's findings and conclusions concerning the causes of +the Macondo well blowout and the resulting Deepwater Horizon rig +explosion. Chapter 4 of the Commission's final report summarized those +findings and conclusions. As promised by that report, moreover, the +Commission's Chief Counsel has since released a detailed and full +account of those same findings and conclusions in a 350 page technical +report. That Chief Counsel's Report describes in exhaustive detail all +the engineering and management mistakes made by the three companies +that resulted in the well blowout and rig explosion. + The Chief Counsel, the Commission's Chief Scientist, and the Chief +Counsel's investigation team met repeatedly with representatives of the +three companies principally involved in the blowout--BP, Halliburton, +and Transocean--and other oil and gas companies. Indeed, for much of +the investigation, those companies were all extremely cooperative and +provided invaluable information. The Chief Counsel asked BP, +Halliburton, and Transocean to review his draft final report to the +Commission prior to its publication to give them the opportunity to +correct misstatements and provide additional information. The Chief +Counsel took that same precaution in late October 2010, immediately +prior to holding a public hearing in which he detailed for the +Commission his preliminary findings and conclusions. Each of the three +companies was provided a preview of that presentation, again, in order +to allow them to correct misstatements and provide additional +information. + In short, the Commission's Chief Counsel gave the companies +extraordinary opportunities to comment on the Chief Counsel's findings +and conclusions prior to their release because the Chief Counsel was +determined to provide the Commission and the American public with the +most comprehensive and accurate accounting of the causes of the Gulf +oil spill disaster. The Commission's investigation has never been aimed +at determining legal responsibility or allocating blame for the +blowout. The companies involved may nevertheless believe that the Chief +Counsel's and Commission's findings could be relevant to the outcome of +other proceedings. It is therefore understandable that they would +advocate factual positions that would, if accepted, minimize their +potential liability. + Question: Did any controversial findings require corroboration? + Response: The Commission does not view its findings as +controversial or in any manner as unsupported. The Commission's +exhaustive investigation identified precisely the mistakes made that +caused the well blowout and rig explosion. Both the Commission's final +report and the Chief Counsel's report to the Commission provide +detailed corroboration for each of the Commission's findings and +conclusions regarding the causes of the blowout and explosion. The +Commission's final report provides that description and corroboration +in a more summary fashion as part of the Commission's overall report, +and the Chief Counsel's report to the Commission sets it forth in +greater detail, in over 350 pages of text, figures, and footnotes. That +accounting properly identifies areas where there is unavoidable +uncertainty. Any remaining uncertainty, however, has no bearing on the +strength of the Commission's ultimate recommendations for changes in +government and industry practices, which are more than amply supported +by what the Commission concluded with certainty. + Question: What record of proof was considered sufficient to support a + particular finding? + Response: The Commission did not assume the role of a judge or +jury, applying a strict legal standard of proof, such as the +``preponderance of evidence test'' applied in civil liability lawsuits +or the ``beyond reasonable doubt'' standard applied in criminal +prosecutions. The President's Executive Order to the Commission +expressly instructed the Commission not to apply formal legal standards +that might intrude upon potential civil litigation or criminal +prosecution. For that reason, the Commission instead applied a standard +of reasonable certainty, meaning whether the evidence allowed the +Commission to conclude with reasonable certainty what had happened and +whether the action taken was either an engineering mistake or failure +in management. + Question: How did Commission staff resolve conflicts between witness + accounts? + Response: As a practical matter, by the time the Commission staff +had completed its investigation, there were very few witness accounts +of facts that differed in ways that affected the Commission's ultimate +findings and conclusions regarding the causes of the well blowout. The +Commission's investigation instead found striking common ground +regarding the basic facts and the Commission consulted its own Chief +Scientist and a team of expert engineers and scientists, many of whom +work with industry, to evaluate those facts in identifying the mistakes +made by the three companies. + When the Chief Counsel discovered an important factual or +analytical dispute that was central to the Commission's investigation, +he took the steps to resolve the dispute. For instance, after BP called +into question the stability of the Halliburton cement slurry, and +Halliburton refuted those claims, the Chief Counsel obtained from +Halliburton the cement recipe used at Macondo as well as materials for +testing the recipe. The Chief Counsel then obtained the services of +Chevron, one of the world's leading experts on cement, to test the +stability of that formula. Those tests revealed that Halliburton's +cement, based on that formula, was in fact unstable. This was a major +fact finding achieved by the Commission. + Finally, to the extent that the Commission concluded that the facts +were uncertain, the Commission expressly acknowledged that uncertainty +and explained to what extent, if any, that uncertainty affected the +Commission's finding and conclusions. Such candor was consistent with +the Commission's charge: to provide the American people with a full and +comprehensive accounting of the blowout. Such an accounting invariably +includes acknowledgement of remaining uncertainties. + Question: What standards did the staff apply to determine whether a + particular statement was credible or not? For example, was + hearsay considered reliable? + Response: The Commission staff considered the full context of any +statement in determining its reliability, including but not limited to +the credibility of the person making the statement, his or her relative +expertise, and corroborating documentary evidence. As a general matter, +the Commission sought to rely primarily on statements of facts offered +by those with firsthand knowledge of factual assertions being made. +And, for that same reason, hearsay as a general matter was discounted. +In some instances, however, the Commission staff had no choice but to +rely on hearsay, for example, to investigate the statements and actions +of several men who died on the rig. In such circumstances, hearsay is +the only available evidence. When such hearsay was the basis of the +Commission's findings, the Commission sought, as fact finders +traditionally do in such circumstances, corroboration of those +statements by more than one source. In addition, the Commission always +made clear in its report the full basis of its factual finding so +others could weigh it accordingly. + As described in response to an earlier question, however, as a +practical matter, factual disputes were not a major problem for the +Commission staff investigation. The Commission's factual investigation +resulted in a factual accounting regarding the drilling of the Macondo +well and the response and containment efforts about which there is very +little meaningful dispute about what happened. + On occasion, there were disputes regarding the engineering or +scientific significance of certain facts and data. In some instances, +representatives of the companies principally involved disputed the +importance of certain data or undisputed facts. In cases of analytic +disputes, the Chief Counsel's staff consulted an extensive array of +industry and academic experts before reaching conclusions, and noted in +the Chief Counsel's report any meaningful differences between our +findings and those of others. + Question: How did the staff conduct its deliberations? + Response: There were no formal deliberations by staff. Staff met +frequently and informally to discuss facts, analyses, and written work +products. In addition, they prepared draft written work products, which +were reviewed by staff team leaders and ultimately by the Executive +Director and/or Chief Counsel prior to submission to all the +Commissioners. The Commissioners, by contrast, did deliberate and, as +required by the Federal Advisory Committee Act, Commissioner +deliberations took place in public. + Question: Who was present? + Response: There were no formal meetings in which staff deliberated. +Of course, there were informal conversations between staff on a +consistent basis over the course of their research and investigation. + Question: Were they confidential? + Response: There were no staff deliberations. Internal staff +discussions that occurred regularly on an informal basis during staff +research and investigation were not open to the public. As discussed +above, staff frequently invited technical experts from the companies +involved in the blowout to discuss and explain facts and data. + Question: If they were not confidential, will you make the + deliberations public? + Response: Because there were no formal staff deliberations, there +is no information to be made public. There are no minutes or written +account of the myriad informal conversations that staff had with each +other during staff research and investigation. The work product that +resulted from staff research and investigation were draft staff working +papers, draft staff findings and recommendations, and draft staff +chapters, all of which were submitted to the Commissioners. Draft staff +working papers submitted to Commissioners were published on the +Commission website. Draft staff findings and recommendations were +presented to the Commissioners at a hearing open to the public at a +December deliberative meeting. And, finally both the Commission's final +report, which was based on the Commission's written work and the final +staff working papers have all been released to the public, as has the +Chief Counsel's Report to the Commission. + Question: Some individuals have raised concerns about the + investigative techniques practiced by the staff working on the + Commission's report. In order to better understand the reasons + behind the investigative techniques employed by the staff, + please answer the following questions: + Why did the staff conduct ``group interviews,'' that is, interview + more than one person at a time, thus allowing the perspective + of one person to influence that of another? + Response: The Commission staff conducted interviews both on an +individual basis and on a group basis. Both types of interviews can be +effective in fact finding. At the November hearing, the Chief Counsel +engaged in some group interviews because that was an effective means of +resolving and highlighting for the Commissioners and the American +public significant differences in viewpoints expressed by witnesses. +Staff also conducted several group interviews with teams of technical +experts (as opposed to fact witnesses) to facilitate a robust +discussion of technical issues. + Question: Why did the staff announce preliminary findings publicly, + thus allowing witnesses and subjects of the investigation to + adjust their rendition of events prior to the final findings + being published? + Response: The purpose of announcing preliminary findings when the +Commission staff did so was to ensure the accuracy of the staff's final +proposed findings for submission to the Commissioners. Such a procedure +allowed, and the Commission staff encouraged, anyone with information +relevant to the preliminary findings to submit that information prior +to the issuance of any final staff proposed findings. Like any fact +finder, the staff can discount the persuasiveness as appropriate of +efforts by witnesses and subject to investigation to adjust their +rendition of facts in light of those preliminary staff findings. + Question: Why did the Chief Counsel paraphrase and summarize testimony + during the Commission's public hearings instead of quoting + witness statements as a means of ensuring an accurate record? + Response: The transcript of the hearing already provided a verbatim +record of what witnesses said. The purpose of the Chief Counsel's +paraphrasing and summarizing was to provide the full Commission with +the benefit of the Chief Counsel's considered judgment concerning what +had been learned from the two days of testimony the Commissioners had +heard. The Commission has publicly posted all transcripts of witness +testimony on its website for public review. + Question: The Commission's recommendations state that pollution + prevention standards should be developed in consultation with + international regulatory peers. Are you familiar with the joint + work of the International Oil Spill Conference? Is that an + adequate international working group? + Response: The Commission is aware of the International Oil Spill +Conference and Commission staff had occasion in their research to +review some of the papers and abstracts presented at every +International Oil Spill Conference from 1969 to 2008. The Commission +has taken no view on whether that particular organization would be +sufficient for the development of the necessary standards. + Question: The Commission has made it clear that all of industry has + the same ``safety culture'' that was practiced on board the + Deepwater Horizon and that the failure of the ``safety + culture'' as evidenced by the explosion and subsequent oil + spill are systemic and overarching. + How many drilling contractors operate in the Gulf and what percentage + of those operators did the Commission interview and which of + these operators safety records and cultures did the Commission + analyze? + Response: The question is based on an incorrect premise. The +Commission made no such statement regarding the safety culture of the +offshore oil and gas industry. The Commission's final report instead +makes clear that many companies have exemplary safety records. And the +Commission further expressly praised those companies not only in the +Commission's final report but in public hearings held this past +November. + The basis for the Commission's conclusion that the offshore +drilling industry suffered from a ``systemic'' problem was very +different, as the Commission's report makes clear. That conclusion was +based on the nature of the mistakes that the Commission found were the +cause of the Macondo well blowout and rig explosion as well as the +identity of those making the mistakes. The Commission did not discover +one or two isolated mistakes but a pattern of repeated mistakes in well +drilling operations that revealed a fundamental failure of risk +management and safe drilling practices. In addition, those making the +mistakes were not just three insignificant companies. They included the +largest operator of deepwater drills in the Gulf (BP); the largest +supplier of cement for all deepwater wells, not just to BP but to all +operations in the Gulf (Halliburton); and the largest operator of +deepwater drilling rigs in the Gulf that services not just BP but all +major operators (Transocean). In addition, the Commission staff +investigation revealed that BP was not the only company that had failed +to plan for a possible deepwater well blowout;BP did not maintain +resources adequate to contain and respond to such a blowout, as +promised by the oil spill response plans BP had submitted to the +government. None of the other oil companies was prepared for such a +blowout, notwithstanding their formal and repeated claims to the +government that they were prepared. Indeed, all of their oil spill +response plans were riddled with inaccuracies and false promises. It +was on this firm basis that the Commission concluded that the offshore +industry as a whole suffered from a culture of complacency that had +assumed away, rather than effectively planned for a possible deepwater +well blowout. + Question: The report includes a ``loss of well control graph'' showing + 79 accidents in the Gulf of Mexico between 1996 and 2009. + How many wells were drilled during that time period? + Response: According to the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, +Regulation and Enforcement, operators drilled 13, 359 wells in the Gulf +between January 1, 1996 and December 31, 2009. + Question: What does the Commission believe constitutes a safe + industrial record? + Response: A loss of well control does not, by itself, indicate that +an operator was engaging in unsafe drilling practices. Some risk is +inevitable in offshore drilling, especially in deep water. The purpose +of the chart in the report describing the 79 incidents of loss of well +control is not to suggest that each of those incidents demonstrates +unsafe drilling practices. It is instead simply to document the +inherent risks of offshore drilling and the reason why it is so +essential that industry always be on guard to ensure that such +incidents do not result in the kind of major disaster that occurred +with the Macondo well blowout. + Question: Does the Commission believe it is possible to eliminate + human error from the disaster equation? + Response: No, it does not. Safe drilling practices, however, +require anticipating the potential for such human error and building in +safeguards both to minimize its occurrence and its consequences. The +human error that caused the Macondo well blowout was entirely +preventable and was not the result of unavoidable human error. + Question: Since taking office one of Secretary Salazar's primary + efforts has been to ensure that oil and gas companies ``use or + lose'' their leases. This effort has included changes in rental + payments, reducing the length of leases, and greater regulatory + attention to the speed of the development of leases. You have + highlighted in your report that many of the steps taken by BP + in the development of this well were done to save time. + Considering the Department's pressure to speed development, does the + Commission believe that BP felt obligated to use these time + saving measures to meet the Department's demands? + Response: The Commission has insufficient information upon which to +form a belief concerning BP's motivations for saving time and whether +they might have been related to Department of the Interior policies. + Question: Does the Commission believe that we should consider + extending the length of leases to allow companies and + regulators additional time to conduct environmental and safety + studies? + Response: The Commission did not consider that issue and neither a +decision to extend or a decision not to extend the length of leases +would, accordingly, be inconsistent with the Commission's +recommendations. + Question: UCSD Economics Professor James Hamilton has written that + ``nine out of ten of the U.S. recessions since World War II + were preceded by a spike up in oil prices.'' In fact, he has + recently written that it was high oil prices that caused a + significant decline in personal spending and new car purchases + that contributed to our current recession. + Did the Commission look at the impact of reduced domestic oil and gas + production on gasoline prices, the GDP, or the Nation's balance + of trade? + If high gasoline prices and oil price spikes are known to do + significant harm to the U.S. economy, should the U.S. ensure + that adequate domestic production is available to prevent + significant price spikes and declines? + Did the Commission conduct an analysis on the economic impacts of + higher gasoline prices and declining domestic production on the + lower income brackets of the U.S. population? + Response: The Commission did not undertake a detailed analysis of +the relationship of the nation's economy to oil and gas prices because +such an inquiry was outside the Commission's charge, as described by +the President's Executive Order creating the Commission. Consistent +with that Executive Order, the Commission identified the root causes of +the oil spill and made recommendations concerning how to prevent future +spills and mitigate their consequences. + Question: Did the Commission at any time receive direction on policies + to consider or recommendations that should be made from: + a. Ms. Carol Browner, Special Assistant to the President? + b. Mr. Steve Black, Counselor to the Secretary of the + Department of the Interior? + c. The Honorable Ken Salazar, Secretary of the Department of + the Interior? + d. Mr. Michael Bromwich, Director, Bureau of Ocean Energy + Management + e. The Honorable Steven Chu, Secretary Department of Energy? + f. Would the Commission please provide any directions or + instructions from these individuals that were provided to the + Commission to the Committee? (These requests include emails, + letters, phone logs, and other communications) + Response: The only direction or instruction that the Commission +received from anyone outside the Commission itself concerning the +proper scope of the policies and recommendations for the Commission's +consideration was contained in the President's Executive Order +establishing the Commission. That Executive Order defined the scope, +purpose, structure, and timetable for the Commission's work. The +Commission neither received nor entertained any other instructions or +directions concerning what the Commission should consider or recommend. +No one, including any of the listed individuals, purported to direct or +instruct the Commission on policies or recommendations or otherwise to +exercise supervisory or managerial authority over the substantive +nature of the Commission's work. Any such assertion, moreover, of +supervisory or managerial authority would have been antithetical to the +independence of the Commission's investigation and recommendations and +for that reason rejected by the Commission. Because the Commission +received no ``instructions'' or ``directions'' of this kind, the +Commission has no related documents to provide. +Congressman and Ranking Member Edward J. Markey (MA-D)--Questions + Question: During the hearing, it was asserted that the Commission + should not have issued its final report until it knew + definitively why the blowout preventer (BOP) failed to function + as it should have. How can you say you did a thorough review of + the accident and determined the causes if you weren't able to + inspect the BOP? + Response: The Commission could do so for the straightforward +reason, explained in the Commission's Final Report and further +elaborated upon in the Chief Counsel's Report to the Commission, that +even if the blowout preventer did fail, that failure did not cause the +explosion that killed 11 men on April 20th. As the Commission report +and Chief Counsel's Report explain, the rig crew realized too late what +was happening and thus activated the BOP too late to have prevented an +explosion. By the time the crew tried to activate the BOP, gas had +already flowed above the BOP and was rocketing up the riser. That gas +is what ignited on April 20th. + By contrast, as the Commission report and Chief Counsel' Report +further explain, if the crew had heeded warning signs earlier in the +day, they could easily have prevented the explosion from happening. +These included misinterpreting the negative pressure test used to check +the integrity of the cement job. In the hour or so before the +explosion, there were several other odd and unexpected pressure +readings that the crew should have realized were signs of a problem, +but unfortunately did not. If they had properly recognized these signs, +they could easily have closed in the well. + To be sure, any blowout preventer failure may potentially have +played a part in the severity of the oil spill, but the disaster as a +whole was due to a rather staggering series of errors by the three +companies, all of which our investigation has documented. These errors +can be addressed through better regulation, better training for +workers, and a strong commitment to safety by both the companies and +the regulators. Examples of key mistakes by BP, Halliburton, and +Transocean as identified by the Commission's investigation include: + Failure to get a good cement job + Failure to understand that the negative pressure test + indicated that the cement was instable + Problems with BP's temporary abandonment procedures, + in particular, its decision to displace mud from the riser + before setting additional barriers to back up the cement at the + bottom of the well. This left the faulty cement at the bottom + of the well as the only physical barrier that could prevent the + flow of hydrocarbons into the well + Failure to understand that a kick was occurring, even + though there were several odd and unexpected pressure readings + in the hour or so leading up to the explosion that the crew + should have realized signaled a problem + Failure to respond appropriately once mud and gas + began spewing onto the rig floor. The crew should have diverted + the gas overboard instead of diverting it through the mud-gas + separator. While it is not entirely clear this would have + prevented the explosion, it could have at least limited its + impact. + For these reasons, the blowout preventer analysis, while important, +will not change the Commission's conclusions that a failure of +management led to numerous risky and unnecessary decisions made by the +companies involved, each of which led to the occurrence of the blowout. +The blowout preventer can, like a seatbelt, reduce the amount of harm +that is caused, but in the circumstances of the Macondo well, even a +properly functioning blowout preventer was not a root cause of the +accident and its immediate tragic consequences for those on the rig on +the night of April 20th. The BOP's relationship to an oil or gas well +is the same as the relationship of an airbag to a car--it is not +intended as a means to prevent an accident, but to mitigate its +effects. + Question: Can you briefly list all the errors or other problems + encountered in the weeks, days and hours leading up to the + blowout at the Deepwater Horizon well that caused the accident + to occur in the first place? + Response: A brief and necessarily under inclusive list of errors +and other problems follows. Chapter 4 of the Commission's overall +report provides a summary of the engineering, process, and management +decisions that led to the blowout. The Chief Counsel's report explains +these mistakes and others in greater detail. + 1. BP and the rig crew experienced difficulties drilling the + well. When combined with earlier design decisions, these + problems required them to plan a ``finesse'' cement job. + 2. The cement slurry that BP and Halliburton used was very + likely unstable. + 3. BP and Halliburton did not adequately test the cement or + review test results prior to pumping the cement. + 4. BP's temporary abandonment procedures called for the crew + to unnecessarily underbalance the well and stress the cement + without first installing additional static barriers. + 5. BP provided inadequately detailed procedures to the crew + for temporary abandonment and negative testing, and provided + them late, causing confusion. + 6. BP's well site leaders, in consultation with the Transocean + rig crew, misinterpreted data from the negative pressure test. + 7. The rig crew and mudloggers missed several signs of the + ``kick'' that became the blowout in the last hour before the + blowout occurred. + 8. Once the blowout began, the rig crew did not immediately + divert mud flow overboard and instead attempted to route flow + through the mud-gas separator. + Question: Can you also describe any delays, errors or other problems + associated with efforts to activate the BOP once it became + clear that this was necessary (please only describe any + problems that are separate and apart from BOP malfunctions)? + Could any of these have impacted the likelihood of using the + BOP to stop the explosion(s) on the Deepwater Horizon even if + it had properly functioned? + Response: The Chief Counsel concluded that the crew first activated +an annular preventer in the BOP at best only moments before drilling +mud erupted onto the rig floor. By this time, gaseous and liquid +hydrocarbons had already passed the BOP rams and were in the riser. +Once those materials were in the riser, there was nothing the crew +could have done to prevent them from flowing to the surface. As gaseous +hydrocarbons flowed up through the mile of riser pipe, they expanded, +further increasing the speed and force of the blowout as they rose. +Accordingly, the Chief Counsel concluded that even if the BOP had +functioned flawlessly, the explosion would have occurred and eleven men +would have died. Put another way, the main problem associated with +activating the BOP was timeliness--the rig crew recognized signs of a +kick too late to use the BOP to prevent a blowout and an explosion. + Question: The Commission report concluded that safety problems in the + oil and gas drilling sector are ``systemic'' in nature and not + just associated with one company or group of companies. + Could you please provide me with some specific justifications for this + conclusion? + Response: The Commissioner's conclusion concerning the systemic +nature of the problem was based on the nature of the mistakes that the +Commission found were the cause of the Macondo well blowout and rig +explosion as well as the identity of those making the mistakes. The +Commission did not discover one or two isolated mistakes but a pattern +of repeated mistakes in well drilling operations that revealed a +fundamental failure of risk management and safe drilling practices. +They included the largest operator of deepwater drills in the Gulf +(BP); the largest supplier of cement for all deepwater wells, not just +to BP but to all operations in the Gulf (Halliburton); and the largest +operator of deepwater drilling rigs in the Gulf that services not just +BP but all major operators (Transocean). In addition, the Commission +staff investigation revealed that BP was not the only company that had +failed to plan for a possible deepwater well blowout. BP did not +maintain resources adequate to contain and respond to such a blowout, +as promised by the oil spill response plans BP had submitted to the +government. None of the other oil companies was prepared for such a +blowout, notwithstanding their formal and repeated claims to the +government that they were prepared. Indeed, all of their oil spill +response plans were riddled with inaccuracies and false promises. It +was on this firm basis that the Commission concluded that the offshore +industry as a whole suffered from a culture of complacency that had +assumed away, rather than effectively planned for a possible deepwater +well blowout. Finally, the Commission concluded that the nature of the +problem was of such a nature that a ``systemic'' solution was needed to +ensure achievement by industry of safety in offshore drilling +operations. + Question: Did your meetings with foreign regulators or other entities + that are familiar with safety or safety culture in other + countries highlight differences between the safety of offshore + drilling operations in the United States compared with other + countries? If so, can you describe the key elements of what you + were told that informed your views? + Response: Two key factors in particular influenced the Commission's +views. The first was that the same operators that were drilling in U.S. +waters were operating more safely in their drilling operations offshore +of other nations. They were successfully complying with pro-active risk +management approaches in other nations. The costs were not exorbitant +and better safety was apparently being achieved elsewhere. Second, the +Commission learned that other nations had prescriptive technical +standards for drilling safety not reflected in U.S standards. The +Commission saw no excuse for U.S. standards not to be at least as +demanding as what other nations applied and what the same companies +were already doing in those other nations to achieve regulatory +compliance. + Question: In arguing against the need for reform, the oil and gas + industry and some Members of the Committee have asserted that + the BP Deepwater Horizon disaster was an outlier and point to + the long history of drilling offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. + Does the industry's record of drilling tens of thousands of wells + offshore in the Gulf of Mexico mean that this was an isolated + incident? Why or why not? + Response: The offshore drilling industry certainly deserves praise +for the lack of any major well blowout in the Gulf of Mexico in U.S +waters during the past several decades of exploration and production +there. As the Macondo well blowout demonstrates, however, one cannot +rely on a past record of safety when, as has occurred offshore in +recent years, the industry is moving to wells located in ever deeper +waters where the potential for recovery of increased volumes of oil and +gas is accompanied by significant increases in associated risk. + Question: What differences exist between drilling or responding to a + blowout in shallow water verses in ultra-deep water where the + Deepwater Horizon was operating? Please detail any added + technical challenges and difficulties presented by deepwater + drilling. + Response: Added water depth itself creates complications and risk +because of the lower temperatures and higher pressures exerted on +wellhead equipment and BOPs at those greater depths. For example: + In deeper water, rigs need to be larger with greater + lifting capacity to manage heavy tubular (casing, riser, drill + pipe). + Deeper water requires a longer riser pipe, which + makes it more difficult to manage mud pressures and also makes + it more dangerous when gas enters the riser. + Hydrates are also a more common problem in deepwater + due to the seabed pressure-temperature relationships. This + poses challenges in development and production, but also in + well control. + Deepwater oil and gas reservoirs can have + exceptionally high porosity and permeability. These + characteristics promote productivity but also make well control + more difficult and means that ``kicks'' (influx of oil and gas + into the well bore) can be significant + In deepwater, the margins between pore pressure and + fracture gradient are typically less than in shallow water. + This leads to greater risks of taking a ``kick'' not just + during drilling, but also during topping (pulling out of the + hole). + Because the water is so deep, gas expansion of any + kick is mostly in the riser and therefore above the BOP. This + means that drillers must be attuned to subtle signs of an + influx and shut in the well before hydrocarbons enter the + riser. In shallow water, the expansion is mostly below the BOP. + Added water depth also increases the complexity of + efforts to stop a blowout that is already in progress. For + instance, BOP stacks are often on the surface in shallow wells, + which means that repairs can be done above water. By contrast, + BOPs in deep water wells can be a mile or more below the + surface, meaning that all work must be done by Remote Operated + Vehicles (ROVs). On the other hand, rigs and equipment can + station themselves directly over a deepwater blowout, which has + operational advantages, and cannot as readily do so in shallow + waters because of the presence of hydrocarbons at the surface. + Deepwater wells tend to contain significantly larger + volumes of oil and gas and consequently can be more productive, + which also means that spills resulting from deepwater blowouts + may potentially be larger. Good shallow wells produce at rates + of a few thousand barrels of oil a day. By contrast, deepwater + wells commonly produce more than 10,000 barrels per day. + For much of the nation's history offshore drilling occurred +exclusively in shallower waters, where the risks were generally lower. +During the last two decades, however, offshore drilling has +increasingly occurred in ever-deeper water, beginning with ``deep +waters'' (approximately 1,000-5000 feet) and now even ``ultra-deep +waters'' (more than 5,000 feet), where the amount of oil and gas can be +greater still. The Deepwater Horizon was operating at depths of +approximately 4,992 feet of water. + Chapter 2 of the Chief Counsel's report addresses these issues in +greater detail. + Question: On January 26th, I, along with several other House Members, + introduced legislation, H.R. 501, to implement the + recommendations of the National Commission on the BP Deepwater + Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling. The legislation we + introduced contains provisions designed to be consistent with + the recommendations of the Commission. For each of the + following provisions, please describe whether the legislation + appears to be generally consistent with the recommendations the + Commission has made to improve the safety of offshore drilling: + a. Our legislation would reorganize the regulatory structure + of the Department of the Interior to separate the offshore + leasing, revenue collection, and environmental and safety + review and enforcement functions. The legislation would also + make the head of the safety agency a fixed-term appointee. + b. The legislation would create a dedicated funding stream + from oil and gas fees to fund the agencies responsible for + regulating and overseeing the industry. + c. The legislation would require the federal government to use + sound science to properly estimate the potential worst-case + spill scenarios and then requires industry's oil spill response + plans to incorporate those worst-case scenarios into a + realistic analysis of what could happen in the event of a + catastrophic blowout. + d. The legislation would establish a permanent scientific + group to ensure that the government develops and maintains the + extensive expertise needed to estimate the flow rate of oil + from a spill. + e. The legislation would dedicate 80 percent of the Clean + Water Act fines and penalties to Gulf Coast restoration. + f. The legislation would ensure that the National Oceanic and + Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has a formal consultative + role in the decision making process for where and how new + drilling can occur so that the best possible science can be + incorporated into the decision-making process. The Department + of the Interior would have to respond in writing if it chose + not to accept NOAA's recommendations. + g. The legislation would create a dedicated funding stream + from oil and gas fees to fund oil spill response research and + development. + h. The legislation would increase the per incident payout from + the oil spill liability trust fund. + i. The legislation would require strong new standards for + blowout preventers, cementing and well-design. + j. The legislation would require extensive study on the + potential effects of dispersants on the marine environment. + k. The legislation would protect whistleblowers from being + retaliated against for reporting violations of oil and gas + drilling safety laws and regulations. + Response: All of the above legislative proposals, if enacted, would +be consistent with the Commission's final report and recommendations. + Question: One of the Commission's findings is that federal oil and gas + regulators have historically been underfunded and the + Commission recommends creating a dedicated funding stream from + increased oil and gas fees to fund the agencies responsible for + overseeing and regulating the industry. + However, some have indicated a desire to reduce federal non-security + spending levels across the board. In your opinion, would + reducing rather than increasing funding for federal oil and gas + regulators help or hurt our ability to ensure that offshore oil + and gas drilling operations are safe? + Response: The Commission believes that increasing funding for oil +and gas regulators is essential to ensuring drilling safety and is +necessary to get the oil and gas industry fully back in operation in +the Gulf as expeditiously as possible. + Question: The Commission's recommendations note that historically most + applications of the Natural Resource Damage Assessment process + have focused on coastal restoration, as opposed to restoration + in water column or on the sea floor. Would focusing primarily + on coastal restoration be appropriate in this case? What + suggestions do you offer for how to address the damage + offshore, which the Commission notes is ``unprecedented and + unknown''? + Response: The Commission recommends that restoration not be limited +to coastal restoration but also encompass the full marine environment +damaged by the Gulf spill, including the water column. To address this +need, the Commission recommends, among other things, longer term study +of those non-coastal adverse impacts and broader efforts at +implementing the Gulf Hypoxia Action Plan, utilizing marine spatial +planning, and providing for marine protected areas to conserve marine +biodiversity and to enhance the resilience of fish stocks. + Question: What are some of the challenges that would be associated + with responding to an oil spill offshore in the Arctic, + especially at certain times of the year when sea ice is + present? Would effectively responding to a spill in the Arctic + present greater challenges than responding to a spill in the + Gulf of Mexico? + Response: As described in Chapter 10 of the Commission's final +report, three of the greatest challenges presented by the Arctic in +particular include: (1) the current lack of significant Coast Guard +resources in the Arctic or readily deployable there; (2) the presence +of ice during significant parts of the year, which would complicate +significantly and potentially delay effective containment and oil spill +response efforts; and (3) the absence of daylight during significant +parts of the year, which would hinder both containment and oil spill +response efforts. In at those three respects, the challenges would be +greater in the Arctic than in the Gulf. As described in Chapter 10, in +some respects there are fewer challenges. For instance, many of the +areas now under consideration for exploration and production in the +Arctic are located in shallow rather than deep or ultra deep waters as +in the Gulf. + Question: During the hearing, questions were raised regarding the + expertise of the Commission members and its staff. Could you + please describe a) the expertise and experience possessed by + those responsible for conducting the Commission's technical + work and writing those aspects of its report and b) the range + of experts consulted by the Commission or its staff as it + sought to develop its findings and recommendations? + Response: The Commission established a team of staff to investigate +the root causes of the Macondo well blowout with enormous technical and +legal expertise. That team was led by the Commission's Chief Counsel, +Fred Bartlit, and by the Commission's Chief Scientist, Richard Sears. +Bartlit is not only one of the nation's most highly regarded trial +lawyers, with deep professional roots with industry and a degree in +civil engineering from West Point, but he led for industry the +investigation of the Piper Alpha rig explosion in 1988, in which 167 +people died in the North Sea. Bartlit is widely credited by industry +and government alike for the rigor and fairness of that investigation, +which successfully identified the root causes of the explosion. Richard +Sears is a petroleum engineer with over three decades of experience +with the oil and gas industry, having recently retired from Shell Oil. +Bartlit and Sears put together not only an in-house team within the +Commission staff, but also worked closely with experts in the oil and +gas industry itself, who were enormously cooperative in assisting the +Commission's work. The Commission's investigative team consulted with +industry and academic experts on virtually every aspect of deepwater +well drilling and fully vetted the investigation's findings with those +same experts. The best proof of the depth, scope, rigor, balance, and +fairness of that staff work is the recently-released Chief Counsel +Report to the Commission, which describes in exhaustive detail in 350 +pages the engineering and management mistakes made that caused the well +blowout and rig explosion. +Congressman Dale Kildee (MI-D)--Questions + Question: Your comments today and the findings of your report + highlight the vital importance of the Gulf Coast ecosystem. Can + you briefly tell us, in terms of natural, economic, and other + resources, why this area and its fragile ecology are so + significant to the region and to the nation at large? + Response: Chapter 6 of the Commission's final report best describes +the significance of the Gulf to the Gulf economy and environment, as +well as to the nation as a whole. In addition to the oil and gas +industry, the Gulf hosts the nation's largest seafood industry as well +as an enormously important and vital tourism and recreation industry. +As witnessed last summer, both those critical economies were devastated +by the spill and it is still unclear, almost eleven months later, the +extent to which they will have recovered this coming summer. Those who +live along the coast were especially hard struck, including many +vulnerable communities, not only in their livelihoods but in terms of +their mental and physical heath, by the spill. More than 650 miles of +Gulf coastal habitats--salt marsh, mudflat, mangroves, and sand +beaches--were oiled. Tidal mudflats are especially sensitive to oil +pollution and the Louisiana delta and the estuarine bays of Mississippi +and Alabama have large expanses of tidal mudflats, and support dense +populations of species. Salt marsh and mangroves are likewise both +highly productive and sensitive habitats highly vulnerable to oil +pollution. + Question: What would you say to the average American who sees the + prices at the gas pump going up each week and may be reluctant + for the government to apply additional regulations to gas and + oil drilling companies? + Response: None of the Commission's recommendations should have a +significant impact on the price of gasoline. The primary factor in the +price of gasoline is the price of crude oil, which is set by the global +market. U.S. crude oil production currently accounts for roughly 10% of +total global production, and it is unlikely that small changes in U.S. +crude oil production could affect global prices. More importantly, our +recommendations are aimed at moving us forward to allow for the full +recovery of offshore operations in the Gulf. Improved drilling safety +could impose some upfront costs on oil and gas companies, but these +costs are small compared to the cost to industry of another major +blowout. + Question: Your report calls for the dedication of a significant + portion of Clean Water Act penalties for restoration of the + Gulf Coast's threatened ecosystem. Can you tell us more about + the relationship between resiliency of the Gulf Coast ecosystem + and your proposed use of these incident-specific spill-related + funds? + Response: The Gulf is presently especially vulnerable to oil spills +because of the elimination of natural barriers, loss of land, +destruction of wetlands, and high concentrations of nutrients otherwise +threatening the viability of marine life within the Gulf. As a result +of these accumulating threats to the Gulf ecosystem, the harm caused by +a catastrophic oil spill can be much greater because, combined with +existing harm, the Gulf may lack the strength needed for recovery. It +is for this reason, that mitigation of the harm of future spills +warrants not just eliminating the incremental harm caused by the +Macondo well blowout, but building back the strength of the Gulf +ecosystem so as to be able to withstand future spills. + Question: Given that your report sites that ``since 2001, the Gulf of + Mexico workforce--35,000 people, working on 90 big drilling + rigs and 3,500 production platforms--has suffered 1,550 + injuries, 60 deaths, and 948 fires and explosions.'' Do you + believe that the oil and gas industry is capable of regulating + itself without additional government oversight? + Response: We think that safe drilling operations will require both +effective government and industry oversight. Neither can do it alone. +That is why the Commission recommends the creation of an independent +safety authority within the Department of the Interior. And that is why +the Commission further recommends that industry establish its own +independent, self-policing entity to oversee offshore drilling +operations, akin to what the nuclear power industry did in 1979 in the +immediate aftermath of the Three Mile Island Accident when industry +established the Institute of Nuclear Power Operations. + Question: Some experts have suggested that the Commission has drawn + overly broad conclusions about the oil and gas industry's + commitment to safety, based on the decisions on a single rig. + How would you respond to this criticism? + Response: The Commissioner's conclusion concerning the systemic +nature of the problem was based on the nature of the mistakes that the +Commission found were the cause of the Macondo well blowout and rig +explosion and the identify of those making those mistakes. The +Commission did not discover one or two isolated mistakes but a pattern +of repeated mistakes in well drilling operations that revealed a +fundamental failure of risk management and safe drilling practices. In +addition, those making the mistakes were not just three insignificant +companies. They included the largest operator of deepwater drills in +the Gulf (BP); the largest supplier of cement for all deepwater wells, +not just to BP but to all operations in the Gulf (Halliburton); and the +largest operator of deepwater drilling rigs in the Gulf that services +not just BP but all major operators (Transocean). In addition, the +Commission staff investigation revealed that BP was not the only +company that had failed to plan for a possible deepwater well blowout; +BP did not maintain resources adequate to contain and respond to such a +blowout, as promised by the oil spill response plans BP had submitted +to the government. None of the other oil companies was prepared for +such a blowout, notwithstanding their formal and repeated claims to the +government that they were prepared. Indeed, all of their oil spill +response plans were riddled with inaccuracies and false promises. It +was on this firm basis that the Commission concluded that the offshore +industry as a whole suffered from a culture of complacency that had +assumed away, rather than effectively planned for a possible deepwater +well blowout. Finally, the Commission concluded that the nature of the +problem was of such a nature that a ``systemic'' solution was needed to +ensure achievement by industry of safety in offshore drilling +operations. + Question: I appreciate the fiscal logic of your recommendation that + Clean Water Act penalty dollars be returned to revive the + natural and economic resources of the Gulf Coast's wetlands. + Can you summarize for us the reasons why that kind of funding + is needed here, and what you expect it to accomplish? + Response: As described in Chapter 7 of the Commission's Final +Report, many have studied the current problems affecting the Gulf's +ecosystem and the central role it plays in the nation's economy and +there is no lack of understanding concerning the kind of steps now +needed to address those problems. The problem has not been lack of +understanding but lack of sufficient resources to commit to the +necessary measures. The estimated costs of such a restoration effort, +however, roughly mirror estimates of the amount of monies potentially +recoverable in Clean Water Act penalties from those private companies +responsible for the Gulf oil spill. Those penalties, accordingly, +provide an extraordinary opportunity for the Gulf and the nation to +undertake restorative measures of enormous value to the Gulf, the +nation, and current and future generations of Americans. + Question: In last night's SOTU address, the President talked about the + need for investments in critical infrastructure for America's + long-term economic health. Would your proposal to invest Clean + Water Act penalties in Gulf Coast restoration offer this kind + of necessary economic security? + Response: Yes, it would. The Gulf's ecosystem supports some of the +nation's most important economies. + Question: Recognizing the importance of the Gulf Coast ecosystem, many + of us are hopeful that the Natural Resource Damages Assessment + process will result in an aggressive response to some of the + worst effects of the spill. How would your proposal for Clean + Water penalties go beyond this NRDA response? + Response: It would go beyond because the NRDA is more limited in +its ability to extend beyond the immediate effects of the spill itself +and address the longer term and broader need to restore the overall +health of the Gulf's ecosystem, which has been threatened by many +activities in recent decades, including the Gulf's ability to withstand +future oil spills. +Congresswoman Betty Sutton (OH-D)--Questions +Question #1 (Questions on Culture of Worker Safety): + 1. In your report you suggested that the oil and gas industry + should work to establish a ``Safety Institute'' similar to + organizations in other high risk industries like the nuclear + industry. By your recommendation, this would be an industry + sponsored entity aimed at improving safety and operation + standards in the offshore drilling industry. + 2. At the same time, you hint at the lack of a ``safety + culture'' in this industry. You make some great + recommendations, but there is a concern that industry will be + slow to self-regulate and change long standing practices. + 3. Have you found the industry receptive in any way to your + suggestions for forming a safety group? + 4. What obstacles exist to creating a culture of safety in the + oil and gas industry? + 5. What are some of the concerns you've encountered or what + might be done to encourage the establishment of a safety + culture? + Response: The Commission has been encouraged in many private +conversations with leading industry officials that they are receptive +and ready to create such an industry self-policing entity and that many +recognize its value and importance. The greatest obstacle right now, +however, is that there still seem to be significant voices in industry +that have not reached that conclusion and seem open instead to seeing +if the current demands for safer drilling will naturally subside +without industry taking significant steps to reform drilling practices. +The Commission's related concern is that there appears to be a tendency +within the oil and gas industry, promoted by the American Petroleum +Institute, to be reflexively opposed to enhanced oversight measures and +a willingness to defer to ``average'' business practices rather than to +demand ``best'' drilling practices. It is not yet clear to the +Commission that those industry leaders who made clear that they share +the Commission's view of the existing problem and the need for industry +reform will be successful in moving the industry as a whole. +Question #2 (Conflicts within Agencies Dealing with Drilling): + 1. In your report you hit on one of the major issues leading + up to the oil spill, the conflicting mission of the Minerals + Management Service. The report suggested the creation of an + independent agency to oversee aspects of offshore drilling. + 2. Secretary Salazar recently announced two new independent + agencies to carry on functions once assigned to MMS, one agency + to deal with leasing and one agency to deal with safety issues. + 3. But even under these two new agencies the Bureau of Safety + will still operate under the same assistant secretary who + oversees leasing duties. + 4. How do these agencies line up with your recommendations? + Response: Much of what the Secretary is doing is fully consistent +with the Commission's recommendations. The Commission does, however, +believe that more is needed, including not having the two new agencies +operating under the same Assistant Secretary. In addition, the +Commission recommends a series of other steps to enhance the +independence of a new safety authority within Interior, including +having the head of that authority possess special engineering +credentials and experience and be appointed to a fixed term. + 5. What consequences do you foresee with the way Interior has + moved forward in forming these new agencies? + Response: The risk of not making the new agency as autonomous as +the Commission recommends is that the new agency, especially after +there is less political attention paid over time to the risks of well +blowouts, will, as in the past, place greater weight on revenue +collection to the detriment of ensuring safe drilling operations. +Congressman Jeff Landry (LA-R)--Questions + Question: Do you propose these recommendations from the report for + both deep and shallow water drilling operations? + Response: The Commission's recommendations are not limited to +deepwater drilling. As a practical matter, however, the challenges and +associated risks of drilling are greater for deep water than they are +for shallower water, so the practical impact of the recommendations are +commensurately great for operations in deep water. + Question: Can you discuss what the economic impacts are on the nation + as a whole in light of your recommendations in the report and + the Obama Administration's response to permitting post-spill? + Specifically, can you discuss what the International Energy + Agency meant by it's anticipation of the U.S. needing an + additional 300,000 barrels per day of imports by 2015 based on + the ongoing permitorium and Interior Department actions? + What about the U.S.'s own Energy Information Administration's + announcement that production in the Gulf would be down 220,000 + barrels per day in 2011 and 400,000 barrels per day by 2012 due + to the permitorium. Can you please discuss those numbers, + including what they mean for the Gulf economy, the U.S. + economy, and our national security? + Response: The Commission is aware of the Energy Information +Administration and International Energy Agency analyses of the adverse +impact of the moratorium and permitting delays in the Gulf of Mexico on +U.S oil production. Indeed, precisely because the Commission was aware +of the significant associated costs of such delays on the nation's +energy supply and the national economy, the Commission made a series of +recommendations for the purpose of reducing permitting delays. Most +important, the Commission concluded that a significant cause of current +and potential future delays was a lack of sufficient funding for the +government agency, the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation +and Enforcement (the successor to the Minerals Management Service). +Absent the necessary resources, BOEMRE cannot process permit +applications as expeditiously as possible while ensuring drilling +safety and the impact on the nation's energy resources and economy may +well be even worse than projected by these two forecasts. + In particular, the Commission found that Congress had persistently +and increasingly underfunded the Minerals Management Service to meet +the challenges of the expanded activity in the Gulf. As offshore +activity dramatically increased during the 1990s, the Minerals +Management Service had increasingly-stretched budget resources +available and its ability to maintain the capacity necessary for safety +management and permitting suffered. The Commission, accordingly, +identified the need for new hiring authority to compete with other +employers for technical expertise as well as the budget certainty to +enable the agency to make the hiring and training commitments necessary +to accommodate the industry's permitting needs. Neither of these has +yet been provided. Until Congress provides those resources, the absence +of necessary government oversight will likely be the greatest source of +continuing permit delays. + Question: Other countries have determined that there was no need to + shut down offshore production. In fact, African and South + American countries are actively pursuing long-term contracts + for rigs to move out of the Gulf. Including rigs from energy + companies from the likes of Murphy Oil, BP, Anadarko and + Statioil. How come the commission report did not discuss the + loss of rigs in the Gulf and economic impacts long-term? + Response: The Commission report did not discuss the loss of rigs +and the economic impacts long term because the Commission concluded +that deepwater drilling could be done safely and economically in the +Gulf and sought to propose recommendations that would allow such +drilling to occur in a safe and expedited manner. The Commission, +accordingly, did not foresee a reason to assume that there would be a +long term loss of rigs in the Gulf. + Question: Due to a 2008 Bureau of Labor Statistics Report on Work + Place injuries 89 percent of working Americans work in + industries with higher injury rates than oil and gas + extraction. So please explain why only commercial banking, + insurance carriers and certified public accountants fare better + and why child day-care services were twice as high as oil and + gas extraction? + This BLS report goes on to state that a total of 120 fatal work + injuries occurred in the oil and gas extraction industry in + 2008. The three most frequent fatal events in 2008 were + transportation incidents (41 percent), contact with objects and + equipment (25 percent), and fires and explosions (15 percent). + The number of fatal work injuries associated with fires and + explosions over the past five years ranged from 10 fatalities + in 2007 to 21 fatalities in 2006. In 2008, there were 18 + fatalities. Why would the extraction portion of the industry be + labeled by the Commission ``a systematic breakdown of safety + and engineering practices'' when in 2008 41% of fatal work + injuries happened in the Transportation sector of the industry? + Do you or don't you agree that without any further regulations the + Offshore Oil and Gas industry is safer today then it was prior + to the accident? + Response: In the immediate aftermath of an accident, it is +reasonable to assume that the offshore industry has on its own +initiative taken some measures to enhance safety by learning from the +specific mistakes made at the Macondo well and on the Deepwater Horizon +rig. The Commission's recommendations, however, seek to promote safety +far more by identifying the root causes, and thereby not just prevent a +repetition of the precise, same mistakes, and to create an +institutional structure for safety oversight within both government and +industry that will endure over the longer term, long after memories of +the BP Deepwater Horizon Gulf Spill begin inevitably to dim. + Question: The President charged this commission to determine the + causes of the disaster, to improve the country's ability to + respond to spills, and recommend reforms that make offshore + energy production safer. Prior to the accident, there existed + multiple layers of environmental reviews, including multiple + EIS and EA's. These included EIS's during the development of + the 5 year review and again prior to the lease sale. Where does + the Commission receive both the authority and the conclusion + that the NEPA review warrants any additional changes, as I find + no conclusion that it contributed to the accident or to the + impact of the clean up? + Response: Under the Executive Order that established the Oil Spill +Commission, the President specifically tasked the Commission with +suggesting improvements to Federal laws and regulations applicable to +offshore drilling that would prevent future spills and mitigate their +impact. Investigating the Department of the Interior and the Mineral +Management Service's application of NEPA for offshore oil and gas +development was an important part of this review because such NEPA +review is designed to ensure, among other things, that agency decision- +making considers potential adverse environmental consequences, +including those resulting from oil spills conducted on federal +properties and supervised by federal agencies. +Congressman Jeff Denham (CA-R)--Questions + Question: The report recommends that there needs to be the creation of + a new government bureaucracy. How is it that the functions of + this new agency can't be performed by the current massive [over + sized] federal structure? + 1. Why can't the need for planning, coordination, execution, + and clean up after a disaster fall under the jurisdiction of + the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)? + 2. With better and more efficient government action couldn't + the damages from an emergency be lessened? + 3. Isn't it necessary to reduce the bureaucratic red tape that + prevents an overseeing agency, such as FEMA, from being allowed + to take the lead role and manage the necessary actions + following an incident? + 4. Wouldn't having one agency allowed to take the lead and + coordinate eliminate the communication breakdown and resolve a + need for an expansion of expensive and inefficient government? + Response: The Commission does not recommend the creation of a new +federal bureaucracy to plan, coordinate, or execute the response to an +offshore oil spill. Rather, the Commission recommends maintaining the +existing command structure, in which the Coast Guard takes the lead +role in responding to an offshore spill of oil or other hazardous +substances. The National Contingency Plan properly assigns this lead +role to the Coast Guard because of its expertise in the offshore and +marine environment. Reassigning that role to FEMA would ignore the +Coast Guard's decades of experience in oil spill response and planning, +and would require a significant and inefficient expansion of FEMA to +duplicate functions and expertise that already exist within the federal +government (indeed, within the same cabinet department). + The Commission agrees that ``better and more efficient government +action'' could lessen the damage caused by a major oil spill. As set +forth in the Commission's report, the response to the Deepwater Horizon +disaster revealed a series of deficiencies in government planning and +execution. Accordingly, the Commission recommends a series of steps +that the federal government could take, consistent with the existing +command structure, to better address the demands created by a spill of +national significance. + + + +