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+[House Hearing, 108 Congress]
+[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office]
+
+
+
+                       THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
+                  SECURITY'S BORDER AND TRANSPORTATION
+                   SECURITY (BTS) BUDGET PROPOSAL FOR
+                            FISCAL YEAR 2005
+
+=======================================================================
+
+                                HEARING
+
+                               before the
+
+                     SUBCOMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE
+                          AND BORDER SECURITY
+
+                                 of the
+
+                 SELECT COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY
+                        HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
+
+                      ONE HUNDRED EIGHTH CONGRESS
+
+                             SECOND SESSION
+
+                               __________
+
+                             MARCH 17, 2004
+
+                               __________
+
+                           Serial No. 108-41
+
+                               __________
+
+    Printed for the use of the Select Committee on Homeland Security
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+
+                 SELECT COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY
+
+
+
+                 Christopher Cox, California, Chairman
+
+Jennifer Dunn, Washington            Jim Turner, Texas, Ranking Member
+C.W. Bill Young, Florida             Bennie G. Thompson, Mississippi
+Don Young, Alaska                    Loretta Sanchez, California
+F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr.,         Edward J. Markey, Massachusetts
+Wisconsin                            Norman D. Dicks, Washington
+W.J. (Billy) Tauzin, Louisiana       Barney Frank, Massachusetts
+David Dreier, California             Jane Harman, California
+Duncan Hunter, California            Benjamin L. Cardin, Maryland
+Harold Rogers, Kentucky              Louise McIntosh Slaughter, New 
+Sherwood Boehlert, New York          York
+Lamar S. Smith, Texas                Peter A. DeFazio, Oregon
+Curt Weldon, Pennsylvania            Nita M. Lowey, New York
+Christopher Shays, Connecticut       Robert E. Andrews, New Jersey
+Porter J. Goss, Florida              Eleanor Holmes Norton, District of 
+Dave Camp, Michigan                  Columbia
+Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Florida         Zoe Lofgren, California
+Bob Goodlatte, Virginia              Karen McCarthy, Missouri
+Ernest J. Istook, Jr., Oklahoma      Sheila Jackson-Lee, Texas
+Peter T. King, New York              Bill Pascrell, Jr., North Carolina
+John Linder, Georgia                 Donna M. Christensen, U.S. Virgin 
+John B. Shadegg, Arizona             Islands
+Mark E. Souder, Indiana              Bob Etheridge, North Carolina
+Mac Thornberry, Texas                Ken Lucas, Kentucky
+Jim Gibbons, Nevada                  James R. Langevin, Rhode Island
+Kay Granger, Texas                   Kendrick B. Meek, Florida
+Pete Sessions, Texas
+John E. Sweeney, New York
+
+                      John Gannon, Chief of Staff
+
+       Stephen DeVine, Deputy Staff Director and General Counsel
+
+           Thomas Dilenge, Chief Counsel and Policy Director
+
+               David H. Schanzer, Democrat Staff Director
+
+             Mark T. Magee, Democrat Deputy Staff Director
+
+                    Michael S. Twinchek, Chief Clerk
+
+                                 ______
+
+           Subcommittee on Infrastructure and Border Security
+
+                     Dave Camp, Michigan, Chairman
+
+Kay Granger, Texas, Vice Chairwoman  Loretta Sanchez, California
+Jennifer Dunn, Washington            Edward J. Markey, Massachusetts
+Don Young, Alaska                    Norman D. Dicks, Washington
+Duncan Hunter, California            Barney Frank, Massachusetts
+Lamar Smith, Texas                   Benjamin L. Cardin, Maryland
+Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Florida         Louise McIntosh Slaughter, New 
+Robert W. Goodlatte, Virginia        York
+Ernest Istook, Oklahoma              Peter A. DeFazio, Oregon
+John Shadegg, Arizona                Sheila Jackson-Lee, Texas
+Mark Souder, Indiana                 Bill Pascrell, Jr., New Jersey
+John Sweeney, New York               Jim Turner, Texas, Ex Officio
+Christopher Cox, California, Ex 
+Officio
+
+                                  (II)
+
+
+                            C O N T E N T S
+
+                              ----------                              
+                                                                   Page
+
+                               STATEMENTS
+
+The Honorable Dave Camp, a Representative in Congress From the 
+  State of Michigan, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Infrastructure 
+  and Border Security............................................     1
+The Honorable Loretta Sanchez, a Representative in Congress From 
+  the State of California, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on 
+  Infrastructure and Border Security.............................     3
+The Honorable Christopher Cox, a Representative in Congress From 
+  the State of California, and Chairman, Select Committee on 
+  Homeland Security..............................................    25
+The Honorable Jim Turner, a Representative in Congress From the 
+  State of Texas, Ranking Member, Select Committee on Homeland 
+  Security.......................................................     5
+The Honorable Donna M. Christensen, a Delegate in Congress From 
+  the U.S. Virgin Islands........................................    25
+The Honorable Sheila Jackson-Lee, a Representative in Congress 
+  From the State of Texas
+  Oral Statement.................................................    21
+  Prepared Statement.............................................     2
+The Honorable Edward J. Markey, a Representative in Congress From 
+  the State of Massachusetts.....................................    30
+The Honorable John Shadegg, a Representative in Congress From the 
+  State of Arizona...............................................    23
+The Honorable Lamar S. Smith, a Representative in Congress From 
+  the State of Texas.............................................    18
+
+                                WITNESS
+
+The Honorable Asa Hutchinson, Under Secretary, Border and 
+  Transportation Directorate, Department of Homeland Security
+  Oral Statement.................................................    10
+  Prepared Statement.............................................    11
+
+                                APPENDIX
+                   Material Submitted for the Record
+
+Questions Submitted by The Honorable Lincoln Diaz-Balart.........    37
+Questions Submitted by The Honorable Mark Souder.................    38
+Questions Submitted by The House Select Commitee on Homeland 
+  Security, Majority Staff.......................................    42
+Questions Submitted by The House Select Commitee on Homeland 
+  Security, Minority Staff.......................................    56
+
+ 
+                       THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
+                  SECURITY'S BORDER AND TRANSPORTATION
+                   SECURITY (BTS) BUDGET PROPOSAL FOR
+                            FISCAL YEAR 2005
+
+                              ----------                              
+
+
+                       Wednesday, March 17, 2004
+
+                          House of Representatives,
+                     Subcommittee on Infrastructure
+                               And Border Security,
+                     Select Committee on Homeland Security,
+                                                    Washington, DC.
+    The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10:37 a.m., in 
+Room 2237, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Dave Camp 
+[chairman of the subcommittee] presiding.
+    Present: Representatives Camp, Smith, Diaz-Balart, 
+Goodlatte, Shadegg, Cox (ex officio), Sanchez, Markey, Jackson-
+Lee, and Turner (ex officio).
+    Also Present: Delegate Christensen.
+    Mr. Camp. The Subcommittee on Infrastructure and Border 
+Security hearing will come to order. Today's business is to 
+receive testimony regarding the fiscal year 2005 budget request 
+for the Border and Transportation Security Directorate, BTS, 
+mission and its various programs. The subcommittee will hear 
+from Under Secretary for Border and Transportation Security 
+from the Department of Homeland Security, the Honorable Asa 
+Hutchinson.
+    Secretary Hutchinson, thank you for testifying today about 
+your Directorate's fiscal year 2005 budget request. We 
+appreciate your time and the effort that went into preparing 
+your testimony. We look forward to the opportunity to ask you 
+some specific questions regarding the BTS budget and how 
+various programs and funding will impact the strategic 
+objectives of the Department.
+    At this time, the Chair would urge--to allow sufficient 
+time for testimony and questions will urge Members to give 
+short opening statements and to submit their full statements 
+for the record.
+    [The statement of Ms. Jackson-Lee follows:]
+
+Prepared Statement for the Record of the Honorable Sheila Jackson-Lee, 
+          a Representative in Congress From the State of Texas
+
+    Thank you, Chairman Camp and Ranking Member Sanchez for your 
+diligence in holding today's hearing in order to allow this body to 
+assess the President's Fiscal Year 2005 Budget proposal for the 
+Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Border and Transportation 
+Security (BTS) Directorate. This hearing is very critical in light of 
+the March 11 bombing of a Madrid subway and the loss of over 200 lives.
+    In the wake of the events that have occurred in Madrid yesterday, 
+it is critical to note that, in our own spending for the Department of 
+Homeland Security, there has been no effort to increase funding or to 
+authorize new railroad security legislation. This means that a whole 
+mode of mass transportation represents a major source of threat 
+vulnerability-yet another reason for us to believe that we are not as 
+safe as we need to be, over two years after the tragic 9/11 incidents.
+    While it is true that because there are some 1.5 million trips per 
+day on commuter rails and passenger trains alone, it will be extremely 
+difficult to institute airline-like security measures, we are charged 
+with having the foresight to initiate rail security improvement 
+programs before an incident such as the Madrid bombings occurs. Our 
+critical infrastructure can no less withstand the impact of region-wide 
+blackouts than it could a series of explosions as occurred in that 
+situation. In Houston, the new MetroRail system counted 558,000 riders 
+in January, its first month. During the four-day Super Bowl weekend, 
+rail riders outnumbered bus riders, even after the city shut down 
+service during some nighttime hours because of safety concerns for 
+crowds. Without the installation of rail security equipment and the 
+hiring of DHS-rail security staff, this new light rail system will 
+represent a major source of vulnerability for Houston.
+    Therefore, the Fiscal Year 2005 Budget proposal needs to be 
+severely scrutinized for its shortfalls relative to rail security.
+    Several years ago, we debated the desirability of dividing the 
+former Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) into two bureaus, 
+an enforcement bureau and a benefits bureau. I expressed concern about 
+the possibility that the enforcement bureau would become the focus of 
+most of our resources to the detriment of the benefits bureau. We no 
+longer debate whether INS should be divided into different bureaus for 
+enforcement and benefits purposes. The establishment of the Department 
+of Homeland Security has made that separation a reality. On the 
+enforcement side, we have the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection 
+(CBP) and the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and, 
+on the benefits side, we have the Bureau of U.S. Citizenship and 
+Immigrant Services (USCIS).
+    I wish I could say that I was wrong, that my fears were unfounded, 
+but my fears were not unfounded. The enforcement bureaus are receiving 
+most of our resources to the detriment of the benefits bureau. The 
+fiscal year 2005 request for the two enforcement bureaus is $10,214 
+million, whereas the fiscal year 2005 request for the benefits bureau 
+is only $1,711 million. In other words, the Administration is proposing 
+to spend 6 times more on enforcement than on benefits. The real 
+disparity, however, can be seen more clearly in the increases that 
+these amounts represent. The Administration is requesting an increase 
+of $538 million for the enforcement bureaus but only is requesting a 
+$58 million increase for the benefits bureau. In other words, for every 
+additional dollar the Administration is requesting for the benefits 
+bureau, it is requesting 9 dollars for the enforcement bureaus.
+    I am not opposed to providing sufficient funding for the 
+enforcement bureaus. My concern is that the Administration is not 
+requesting adequate resources for the benefits operations. The Bureau 
+of U.S. Citizenship and Immigrant Services (USCIS) has not been able to 
+keep up with its work load. USCIS has a backlog of more than 6 million 
+benefits applications.
+    The Texas Service Center presently is working on visa petitions 
+that U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents filed for unmarried 
+sons and daughters on October 30, 1998. These applications sit for more 
+than 5 years before anyone begins to work on them. Such delays do not 
+just affect the people in other countries who are the subjects of the 
+petitions. The petitioners who file family-based and employment-based 
+visa petitions are lawful permanent residents and citizens of the 
+United States and American employers. In fact, when such a petition is 
+denied, the foreign person who is the subject of the petition does not 
+have standing to file an appeal. The right to the immigration benefit 
+lies with the American petitioner, not with the alien who is the 
+subject of the petition.
+    Despite this crisis, the Administration's proposed fiscal year 2005 
+budget for USCIS only allocates $140 million for backlog reduction. 
+Even with the addition of the $20 million USCIS expects to receive from 
+increased processing fees, this is not sufficient to eliminate the 
+backlog. The magnitude of the backlog problem can be seen in the fact 
+that during the 3-year period from fiscal year 2001 through 2003, 
+USCIS's reported operating costs exceeded available fees by almost $460 
+million. Since the beginning of fiscal year 2001, the number of pending 
+applications increased by more than 2.3 million (about 59 percent) to 
+6.2 million at the end of fiscal year 2003. This increase occurred 
+despite additional appropriations beginning in fiscal year 2002 of $80 
+million annually to address the backlog.
+    Meanwhile, $340 million is allocated for the US-VISIT program, 
+which may turn out to be a waste of resources that could have been used 
+elsewhere, such as for reducing the benefits applications backlog. The 
+stated objective for US-VISIT is to enhance the nation's security while 
+facilitating legitimate travel and trade through our borders. According 
+to a September 2003 report (GAO-03-1083) from the General Accounting 
+Office (GAO), US-VISIT is a very risky endeavor, the potential cost of 
+the program is enormous, and it may not be able to measurably and 
+appreciably achieve its goals.
+    I am not sure that US-VISIT will increase the security of our 
+borders even if it is fully and successfully implemented. US-VISIT only 
+screens foreign visitors seeking admission on the basis of nonimmigrant 
+visas, it does not screen nonimmigrant visitors from the 27 countries 
+participating in the Visa Waiver Program or anyone who presents a green 
+card, and it will be years before the system is fully operational at 
+all of the land borders.
+    I believe that we need to pay more attention to benefits operations 
+and that we much use our resources more wisely.
+    Thank you.
+
+    Mr. Camp. The hearing record will remain open for 10 days 
+after the close of the hearing. Members are advised they will 
+receive an additional 3 minutes during the questioning time if 
+they waive their opening statement.
+    I will at this point submit my statement for the record, 
+and ask the Ranking Member Congresswoman Sanchez if she has an 
+opening statement.
+     Ms. Sanchez. I actually do. And thank you, Mr.Chairman. 
+And the statement is actually quite long, but I am going to try 
+to skip to a couple places to get it on the record, and I will 
+submit the full thing.
+    Again, welcome, Secretary Hutchinson. As you and I were 
+speaking earlier, I think I mentioned to you that I think, 
+quite frankly, that you have the most difficult job of anybody 
+over at DHS, maybe in the entire administration, because there 
+is just so much to oversee in this entire area of Customs and 
+Border Protection and infrastructure, et cetera. So you 
+certainly have a lot of people under you, 110,000 people 
+stationed all over the country and around the world.
+    Your Directorate also has a broad mission, and even though 
+you have a request of $19.6 billion in the budget, I really 
+believe that it is not enough, it is really not enough to get 
+done what we hope that you can get done in this coming year. I 
+think you need more resources. I think that within the 
+different categories you might need to spread them over 
+differently, and I hope that is some of the dialogue that we 
+can have today.
+    One of the areas of particular mission that I would like 
+you to address either in questions or during your testimony is 
+the whole issue of the TSA, the Transportation and Security 
+Administration, funding, mostly because we see a lot, almost 
+all, of the budget being spent on the airports; and yet under 
+the jurisdiction of that, of course, is quite a few other areas 
+including rail security. And given what we see happen in Madrid 
+just in the last week, obviously that is a hot topic, and there 
+are questions about what are we doing as a Nation to protect 
+ourselves in mass transit and on rail systems. And I think you 
+only have about 2 percent of your total request going towards 
+some of that.
+    The other issue, of course, is also what are you doing in 
+the port system? And the last area of concern are the new 
+regulations or the discussion going on about just what type of 
+civil employment employees within your Directorate actually 
+have. And I will ask those questions. But I hope you will 
+address or give us some idea of the outline that you see with 
+respect to hire and fire and some of the nontraditional 
+grievance procedures that employees under your direction might 
+have.
+    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    Mr. Camp. Thank you.
+    Does the Ranking Member Mr. Turner have an opening 
+statement?
+    Mr. Turner. Yes, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
+    Secretary Hutchinson, welcome. Good to have you with us 
+once again. We are all very much aware that we are meeting here 
+less than a week after the devastating explosions in Madrid 
+that killed 200 and injured over 1,500 rail passengers, and our 
+thoughts are still and our hearts go out to those victims and 
+their families. It is again a reminder of how vulnerable we all 
+are no matter where we may live around this globe.
+    It appears from all information I have heard, and you, I am 
+sure, can verify this, that Al-Qa`ida was the culprit in this 
+brutal attack. And it also, I think, serves as an ominous 
+warning sign once again to us and this country that we must be 
+ready and prepared to deal with whatever may come next to our 
+people. You would have thought maybe that we wouldn't need a 
+reminder, obviously we are 2-1/2 years after September 11th of 
+2001, but it did strike me as somewhat disturbing when I looked 
+at the House Budget Committee's proposal that Chairman Nussle 
+is laying out that reduces the President's budget request for 
+homeland security by some $887 million over the next5 years. 
+Many of my colleagues, all of the Democrats on this committee, 
+wrote to Chairman Nussle yesterday urging him to reverse those 
+cuts, and, in fact, call for increases, in spending for 
+security for the American people.
+    Many of those areas where we urged additional funding 
+clearly fall under your umbrella, Mr. Secretary and your 
+Department, of course, has about 60 percent, I think, of all 
+the employees of the Department of Homeland Security.
+    It is clear we have made progress in the last year in 
+border and transportation security, and I commend you on your 
+efforts and your leadership, Mr. Secretary, but there are some 
+concerns that I want to raise with you and hope you will have 
+the opportunity to address them in your statement.
+    In light of the attacks in Madrid, I think it is important 
+for us to focus renewed emphasis upon rail security. As you 
+know, we have 140,000 miles of train routes in this country, 
+500 Amtrak stations, and 500 major urban transit operators. Ten 
+million trips are made on trains and subways every day in these 
+United States.
+    While the TSA requests 5.3 billion for next fiscal year in 
+your budget request, only 147 million, as I read it, or less 
+than 3 percent of the total, is dedicated to modes of 
+transportation other than airplanes. This striking disparity 
+indicates to me that we are not placing enough emphasis on 
+trail, trucking, buses, ferries, and other forms of 
+transportation that clearly represent vulnerabilities.
+    I recognize that the Department has a $50 million grant 
+program outside of TSA for rail and transit security, but 
+estimates of what is truly needed across the country range 
+upwards of $2 billion. That includes funding for items such as 
+sensors, communications equipment, security cameras, which I 
+understand you feel constitute the right approach to rail and 
+transit security. This area obviously has not been a core 
+concern of the Department nor of the Congress, and I think this 
+must change.
+    You mentioned during an interview this week that perhaps we 
+need to make greater investments in this area, and I certainly 
+agree. And I hope you will share your thoughts with us on what 
+additional efforts you believe the Department needs to make 
+beyond what may be in the President's budget to do a better job 
+of security transit systems.
+    Beyond rail security, I am concerned about other 
+transportation issues. The TSA budget for next year is an $892 
+million increase over the current level, and yet almost all of 
+this increase is devoted to airport screening operations. 
+Funding is flat, for example, for air cargo screening and 
+technology development, and there appears to be no new 
+initiatives in this critical area. Air cargo only undergoes, as 
+we all know, random searches which are often conducted by 
+shippers whose security practices are not regularly verified by 
+the Department. I think it is important for us to come to 
+grips, and perhaps if you could help us on this, give us some 
+date by which you feel we will be able to screen all of our 
+cargo that travels on passenger planes with us every day.
+    Another issue that gives me concern is the current pace of 
+installing these radiation portals at our Nation's major border 
+crossings. These portals are very valuable in helping to detect 
+weapons of mass destruction.
+    Mr. Camp. The gentleman's time has expired.
+    Mr. Turner. I will try to follow up, Mr. Secretary, on the 
+other items I have in my remarks as we get into your questions. 
+But thank you very much.
+    Mr. Camp. Thank you.
+    Are there any other requests for opening statements?
+    Ms. Sanchez. Mr. Chairman.
+    Mr. Camp. Yes. I would recognize the Ranking Member for her 
+comment.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Mr. Chairman, I just want to thank you for 
+your recent pledge to work with me to schedule hearings that 
+address budget details from the Border and Transportation 
+Security Directorate component agencies, such as TSA and 
+Customs and Border Protection. And I ask for unanimous consent 
+to submit the letter from me to you with requests for that and 
+your response. And there are copies for the members here of the 
+committee to have, if they would like.
+    Mr. Camp. Without objection, those letters will be 
+submitted to the record.
+    [The information follows:]
+
+
+           SUBCOMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND BORDER SECURITY
+
+                          House of Representatives,
+        Subcommittee on Infrastructure and Border Security,
+                                     Washington, DC, March 10, 2004
+Hon. Dave Camp,
+Chairman, Subcommittee on Infrastructure and Border Security, 
+        House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
+    Dear Mr. Chairman: As we approach the upcoming 
+authorization legislation for the Department of Homeland 
+Security, the Democratic members of our subcommittee are 
+concerned that the Select Committee has not yet heard from a 
+sufficient number of witnesses to properly guide our 
+authorization process.
+    In light of this fact and pursuant to Rule 4 of the 
+Committee Rules, we request that additional witnesses be added 
+to the hearing of the Subcommittee on Infrastructure and Border 
+Security tentatively scheduled for Wednesday, March 17 at which 
+Under Secretary Hutchinson is expected to testify. We 
+respectfully request that officials from the Transportation 
+Security Administration, United States Coast Guard, Office of 
+Domestic Preparedness, Bureau of Immigration and Customs 
+enforcement, and Bureau of Customs and Border Protection be 
+called to testify about the agencies' budget submissions. As 
+provided by Rule 4, these witnesses could either appear 
+following Under Secretary Hutchinson or on a separate ``day of 
+hearing.''
+    We realize this change could make for a long hearing, but 
+it is our strong feeling that we must hear from these witnesses 
+in order to get the information we need to make the proper 
+choices as we go forward with the authorization process.
+        Very truly yours,
+                    Loretta Sanchez, Ranking Member.
+                    Benjamin Cardin, Representative.
+                    Norm Dicks, Representative.
+                    Sheila Jackson-Lee, Representative.
+                    Bill Pacrell, Representative.
+                    Peter DeFazio, Representative.
+                    Barney Frank, Representative.
+                    Edward Markey, Representative.
+                    Louise Slaughter, Representative.
+
+
+           SUBCOMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND BORDER SECURITY
+
+                          House of Representatives,
+        Subcommittee on Infrastructure and Border Security,
+                                     Washington, DC, March 10, 2004
+Ms. Loretta,
+Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Infrastructure and Border 
+        Security, Washington, DC.
+    Dear Ms. Loretta: Thank you for contacting me with your 
+request to invite additional witnesses to the Border and 
+Transportation Security Budget hearing on March 17, 2004. As 
+you know, on February 13, 2004, we sent a joint invitation 
+letter requesting that Undersecretary Asa Hutchinson appear 
+before our Subcommittee on that date and did not request any 
+additional witnesses.
+    As the head of the BTS Directorate, Undersecretary 
+Hutchinson is accountable for the entire BTS budget request and 
+can be expected to answer questions on the range of issues 
+cited in your letter. Given the shortage of dates available to 
+hold hearings, it is in the best interest of the Committee to 
+move forward with our agenda and build budget and authorization 
+components into those hearings. Your request for testimony from 
+Customs and Border Protection, Immigration and Customs 
+Enforcement, Transportation Security Administration, and the 
+U.S. Coast Guard is duly noted and I pledge to work with you on 
+upcoming hearings to make sure that these agencies are 
+represented.
+    I understand that there is concern that, due to the size of 
+the BTS Directorate and the number of different programs, 
+Members will not have sufficient time to address each issue. If 
+time permits, please be assured that I will extend the 
+questions for a second round during the hearing to give Members 
+additional time to question the witness. Additionally, I will 
+work with you to ensure that any outstanding issues are 
+addressed in upcoming hearings.
+    Again, thank you for your request. I appreciate your hard 
+work and dedication as a Member of the Subcommittee and I look 
+forward to working with you to move the agenda of the 
+Subcommittee forward as we conduct oversight of the Department.
+        Sincerely,
+                                         Dave Camp,
+                                                  Chairman.
+                                ------                                
+
+
+    Mr. Camp. And seeing no additional requests for time, I 
+think we can proceed and welcome Under Secretary Hutchinson. We 
+have received your written testimony, and ask that you would 
+briefly summarize your statement in 5 minutes. Thank you for 
+being here. You may begin.
+
+   STATEMENT OF ASA HUTCHINSON, UNDER SECRETARY, BORDER AND 
+    TRANSPORTATION SECURITY, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
+
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Congresswoman 
+Sanchez, Ranking Member Turner, Congressman Smith. I am very 
+pleased to be with you today and the other members of the 
+committee.
+    I want to, first of all, express my appreciation to the 
+partnership that I believe that we have developed with this 
+committee and with the Department on the ongoing security needs 
+and assessments of where we are in Homeland Security. And we 
+could not get the job done without your support, confidence, 
+and counsel.
+    I do believe that we have accomplished a great deal in the 
+last year together in enhancing security in every arena, and 
+the President's 2005 budget that is the subject of this hearing 
+reflects the continued enhancements of security. It includes a 
+10 percent increase overall in the Directorate of Border and 
+Transportation Security.
+    And if you look back on some of the things that we have 
+accomplished that led to the 2005 budget, we have consolidated 
+our border security efforts under one face at the border where 
+Immigration, Customs, Agriculture are combined together into 
+one effective organization. We have expanded the Container 
+Security Initiative, the Customs-Trade Partnership Against 
+Terrorism Program, protecting the supply chain in our supply 
+routes of cargo coming into our country. We have enhanced 
+substantially, as we have acknowledged, aviation security with 
+increasing the effectiveness of the Federal air marshals, 
+increasing the baggage screening, checking the names of master 
+air crew lists, and additional measures in aviation security. 
+We have implemented new technologies from US-VISIT to the 
+SEVIS, which identifies and tracks foreign visitors and 
+students, made those programs effective. We have enhanced air 
+cargo inspections. We have increased the work on pursuing the 
+illegal hiring of undocumented workers, and we have complied 
+with the congressional requirements to develop visa security 
+programs, which also gives the greater capability of looking at 
+people who come into our country to make sure they do not pose 
+a security risk.
+    The 2005 budget builds upon these initiatives by increasing 
+the CSI initiative, Security Container Initiative, by $25 
+million, increasing the funding for the Customs-Trade 
+Partnership Against Terrorism Program, increasing the amounts 
+for the National Targeting Center that will allow us to do more 
+effective risk assessments.
+    One of the topics that has been mentioned today is what we 
+are doing in rail and transit security, and as was mentioned, 
+we certainly have looked at what has happened, the tragedy in 
+Madrid. We obviously naturally look at what our vulnerabilities 
+are in our transit systems here in the United States.
+    And it is important to note that this is not the first time 
+we have looked at transit security. We are working very 
+aggressively in this arena in which we allowed $115 million in 
+grants since May of last year for enhancing security in the 
+transit arena. We have in combination with that issued $894 
+million in Urban Area Security Grants, some of which of that 
+money can be used for enhancing the security of our transit and 
+rail systems. In addition, the 2005 budget, of course, builds 
+upon that with a $1.45 billion amount being provided for the 
+Urban Area Security Grants.
+    But to give you a flavor for how we deal with this whenever 
+we see an incident like what happened in Madrid, we, first of 
+all, handle, from an operational standpoint, making sure that 
+we are in communication and provide information to the major 
+transit systems in the major cities. I personally talked with 
+chiefs of police, the transit operators and got an 
+understanding of what we are doing to enhance security, to make 
+sure that is done; increase law enforcement presence, expanding 
+the use of explosive detection equipment, public announcements, 
+awareness as to the danger and what they can do to alert us to 
+unattended packages. And many of them also instituted transit 
+riders.
+    We have through the TSA the Maritime and Land Security 
+Division, which is working with the rail security and the 
+transit authorities to enhance security through best practices, 
+through pilot projects, and we are going to continue to build 
+upon that. We look forward to working with you to see other 
+means in which we can make sure that our transit riders and our 
+passengers and the rail are secure, and that we continue our 
+efforts to secure the borders of the United States.
+    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    Mr. Camp. Well, thank you very much, Secretary Hutchinson.
+    [The statement of Mr. Hutchinson follows:]
+
+Prepared Statement of The Honorable Asa Hutchinson, Under Secretary for 
+  Border and Transportation Secretary, Department of Homeland Security
+
+    Mr. Chairman, Congresswoman Sanchez and Members of the 
+Subcommittee:
+    I am honored and pleased to appear before the Committee to present 
+the President's fiscal year 2005 budget for the Border and 
+Transportation Security (BTS) Directorate. I want to thank you for your 
+strong support of BTS components, especially for the resources you 
+provided in fiscal year 2004, and look forward to working with you in 
+the coming months on our fiscal year 2005 budget.
+    The $16 billion BTS request represents a 10 percent increase in 
+resources over the comparable fiscal year 2004 budget, and reflects the 
+Department's strong and continued commitment to the security of our 
+homeland. The fiscal year 2005 budget is a $1.5 billion increase over 
+fiscal year 2004, and it includes funding for new and expanded programs 
+in border and port security, transportation security, immigration 
+enforcement, and training.
+    The Border and Transportation Security Directorate made great 
+strides during the first year of operations. Over 110,000 employees and 
+a budget of $14 billion were reassembled and brought under BTS. The 
+Directorate was quickly established and successfully began operations 
+on March 1, 2003--bringing together the legacy agencies and programs 
+that now make up BTS--Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Immigration 
+and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Transportation Security Administration 
+(TSA), Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC), and the United 
+States Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology (US-VISIT) 
+program. Customs, border, immigration, transportation security and 
+training activities have been rejuvenated under their new agencies, 
+increasing the effectiveness of our dedicated employees. BTS continues 
+to create new ways to enhance security by sharing information and 
+intelligence and by coordinating operations within the Department among 
+levels of governments, and horizontally across agencies and 
+jurisdictions. Through the hard work of our dedicated and talented 
+employees, America is more secure and better prepared than we were one 
+year ago.
+    In addition to the stand-up of the Directorate, we have achieved 
+many results since our creation, including:
+         providing fused and enhanced security coordination 
+        among our components and other federal, state and local 
+        security providers and stakeholders, especially during 
+        Operation Liberty Shield and the recent holiday season, 
+        including the establishment of the Transportation Security 
+        Coordination Center (TSCC) to coordinate intelligence sharing 
+        and command and control activities for our national 
+        transportation sector;
+         strengthening border security through the ``One face 
+        at the border'' initiative, which is cross-training officers to 
+        perform three formerly separate inspections--immigration, 
+        customs, and agriculture--allowing us to target our resources 
+        toward higher risk travelers;
+         expanding the container security initiative (CSI) and 
+        Customs-Trade Partnership Against Terrorism (C-TPAT) to provide 
+        improved security to the global supply chain;
+         instituting new cutting edge systems, like US-VISIT, 
+        to identify and track foreign visitors and students, recording 
+        the entry and exit of foreign visitors to strengthen our 
+        immigration system;
+         safeguarding air travel from the terrorist threat by: 
+        increasing the presence of Federal Air Marshals, establishing a 
+        Federal Flight Desk Officer program, instituting 100 percent 
+        checked baggage screening, issuing new regulations for enhanced 
+        air cargo security, expanding the use of explosives detection 
+        canine teams, checking names of master cockpit air crew lists, 
+        and streamlining and training federal passenger and baggage 
+        screeners deployed at airports across the Nation;
+         eliminating potential weaknesses in security by 
+        suspending transits without visa (TWOV);
+         negotiating an agreement with the European Union with 
+        respect to Passenger Name Record (PNR);
+         negotiating a memorandum of understanding with the 
+        Department of State to ensure a coordinated and increasingly 
+        effective visa issuance process; and
+         establishing a visa security office to provide 
+        oversight and guidance on Section 428 of the Homeland Security 
+        Act, including establishing two offices in Saudi Arabia to 
+        review 100 percent of visa applications;
+         standing up a SEVIS tiger team to process foreign 
+        students during the summer 2003 back-to-school season; and
+         effecting improvements in security capabilities, 
+        capacity, training, and infrastructure.
+
+Fiscal Year 2005 Budget Request
+    The Fiscal Year 2005 budget for the Directorate builds upon the 
+significant investments and accomplishments effected and in progress.
+
+Strengthening Border and Port Security
+    Securing our border and transportation systems continues to be an 
+enormous challenge. Ports-of-entry (POE) into the United States stretch 
+across 7,500 miles of land border between the United States and Mexico 
+and Canada, 95,000 miles of shoreline and navigable rivers, and an 
+exclusive economic zone of 3.4 million square miles. Each year more 
+than 500 million people, 130 million motor vehicles, 2.5 million 
+railcars, and 5.7 million cargo containers must be processed at the 
+border and POE.
+    In fiscal year 2003, CBP processed 412.8 million passengers and 
+pedestrians arriving in the U.S.--327 million at land borders, 70.8 
+million at international airports, and 15 million at sea ports. The 
+fiscal year 2005 CBP budget seeks $2.7 billion for border security 
+inspections and trade facilitation at ports of entry and $1.8 billion 
+for border security and control between ports of entry.
+    During fiscal year 2005, we will continue to strengthen our border 
+and port security. The CBP budget seeks an overall increase of $223 
+million to maintain and enhance border and port security activities, 
+including the expansion of pre-screening cargo containers in high-risk 
+areas and the detection of individuals attempting to illegally enter 
+the United States illegally.
+    Specifically, the budget includes an increase of $25 million for 
+the Container Security Initiative (CSI) which focuses on pre-screening 
+cargo before it reaches our shores, and an increase of $15.2 million 
+for Customs Trade Partnership Against Terrorism (C-TPAT). C-TPAT 
+focuses on partnerships all along the entire supply chain, from the 
+factory floor, to foreign vendors, to land borders and seaports. As of 
+late January 2004, nearly 3,000 importers, 600 carriers, and 1,000 
+brokers and freight forwarders are participating in C-TPAT, surpassing 
+the Department's original goal of participation of the top 1,000 
+importers.
+    As well as continuing development for secure trade programs, the 
+budget also seeks an increase of $20.6 million to support improvements 
+for the National Targeting Center and for multiple targeting systems 
+that focus on people, cargo and conveyances. These systems use 
+information from diverse sources to provide automated risk assessments 
+for arriving international air passengers, shipments of goods to our 
+country, and land border passenger traffic.
+    The United States Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology 
+(US-VISIT) program's goals are to enhance the security of our citizens 
+and our visitors; facilitate legitimate travel and trade across our 
+borders; ensure the integrity of our immigration system; and respect 
+the privacy of our welcomed visitors. US-VISIT represents a major 
+milestone in our efforts to reform our borders. We deployed the first 
+increment of US-VISIT on time, on budget, and met the mandates 
+established by Congress, including biometric capabilities ahead of 
+schedule. The budget seeks a total of $340 million in fiscal year 2005, 
+an increase of $12 million over the fiscal year 2004 level for the 
+program. As of late February, over 1.5 million foreign nationals had 
+been processed for entry, generating 125 watch list alerts, and 
+resulting in 51 criminals apprehended. The 2005 funding will further 
+strengthen border security, and enable modernization of border 
+management systems and capabilities. Specifically, funding will be used 
+to expand the entry system to 115 land POEs, beyond the busiest 50 that 
+will be covered by the US-VISIT program in fiscal year 2004. Funding 
+will also be used to expand implementation of an exit solution at our 
+air and seaports. Alternatives are being developed and tested, and will 
+be implemented at 80 airports and 14 seaports in fiscal year 2004.
+    Within the BTS component budgets, over $100 million is included for 
+detection systems, a critical element in the war on terrorism. The CBP 
+budget seeks an increase of $64.2 million to enhance land-based 
+detection and monitoring of movement between ports, and $10 million to 
+deploy and operate unmanned aerial vehicles. In order to protect the 
+homeland against radiological threats, the CBP budget seeks $50 million 
+for radiation detection monitors and equipment. The ICE budget request 
+includes an increase of $28 million to increase the flight hours of P-3 
+aircraft by 200 percent. In addition to providing vital detection and 
+monitoring capabilities in the source and transit zones containing 
+mountainous terrain, thick jungles and large expanses of water, the P-3 
+provides an important capability for domestic airspace security 
+missions.
+
+Improving Aviation Security
+    We have made great strides in rebuilding and reinvigorating of our 
+aviation transportation security system. We have made significant 
+investments in baggage screening technology--over $2 billion to 
+purchase and install Explosives Detection Systems machines (EDS) and 
+Explosives Trace Detection machines (ETD) to the nation's airports--and 
+established a robust technology research and development program. We 
+have deployed 45,000 federal passenger and baggage screeners at the 
+Nation's airports, expanded the National Explosives Detection Canine 
+Team program, and trained pilots to be Federal Flight Deck Officers.
+    The fiscal year 2005 TSA budget seeks an increase of $892 million 
+to enhance transportation security, a 20 percent increase over the 
+comparable fiscal year 2004 level. Specifically, to strengthen 
+interwoven, concentric layers of transportation security, the budget 
+requests increases of $20 million for credentialing systems (i.e., 
+Transportation Worker Identification Credential, Hazardous Materials 
+transporters, and foreign student pilots); $25 million for operating 
+the Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening II System; and $113 
+million to and improve screener performance through training and the 
+deployment of information technology. A substantially improved air 
+cargo security and screening program was implemented last year, and the 
+$85 million request sustains funding to continue program enhancements 
+and associated air cargo screening technology research and development. 
+We are providing another $400 million for EDS equipment to improve 
+airport operational efficiency.
+
+Enhancing Immigration Security and Enforcement
+    The ICE budget request of $4 billion, which is an increase of $300 
+million over the fiscal year 2004 level, seeks to strengthen 
+immigration security and enforcement. Comprehensive immigration 
+security and enforcement extends beyond efforts at and between the 
+ports-of-entry into the United States. It extends overseas, to keep 
+unwelcome persons from arriving in our country, and removing persons 
+now illegally residing in the United States. Pursuant to section 428 of 
+the Homeland Security Act, and the Memorandum of Understanding between 
+the Departments of Homeland Security and State, the ICE fiscal year 
+2005 budget request of $14 million includes an increase of $10 million 
+to support a new visa security unit (VSU). The BTS personnel stationed 
+at overseas posts, including Saudi Arabia, will continue to work 
+cooperatively with U.S. Consular Officials to enhance security and the 
+integrity of the visa process.
+    As announced on January 7, 2004, the Administration is committed to 
+enhanced immigration integrity and border security. My Directorate will 
+be working to implement a program that meets those goals, while 
+benefiting the economy. Current ICE immigration enforcement programs 
+and the enhancements in the fiscal year 2005 ICE budget request support 
+and are consistent with a number of elements in this initiative, 
+particularly worksite enforcement. Specifically, the fiscal year 2005 
+request includes an increase of $23 million to more than double the 
+number of investigations currently performed by ICE--providing an 
+additional 200 investigators. With these resources, ICE will be able to 
+facilitate the implementation of the President's temporary worker 
+program initiative by establishing a traditional worksite enforcement 
+program that offers credible deterrence to the hiring of unauthorized 
+workers.
+    The request also includes nearly a $100 million increase for the 
+detention and removal of illegal aliens. Detention and Removal of 
+illegal aliens present in the United States is critical to the 
+enforcement of our immigration laws, and the requested funding will 
+expand ongoing fugitive apprehension efforts, the removal from the 
+United States of jailed illegal aliens, and additional detention and 
+removal capacity.
+    As part of our overall immigration enforcement strategy, ICE will 
+continue to analyze data generated through the Student and Exchange 
+Visitor Information System (SEVIS) and US-VISIT program to detect 
+individuals who are in violation of the Nation's immigration laws and 
+pose a threat to homeland security. The fiscal year 2005 budget 
+requests $16 million to support these compliance efforts.
+    Immigration fraud poses a severe threat to national security and 
+public safety because it enables terrorists, criminals, and illegal 
+aliens to gain entry and remain in the United States. An aggressive, 
+focused, and comprehensive investigations and prosecutions program will 
+detect, combat and deter immigration fraud. The $25 million included in 
+the fiscal year 2005 budget will provide stable funding to the benefits 
+fraud program by replacing funding previously provided through the 
+Immigration Examinations Fee Account.
+
+Building Departmental Infrastructure
+    The fiscal year 2005 request includes an increase of $5 million for 
+the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center to support our security 
+program enhancements and capability sustainment. The FLETC not only 
+serves federal client groups, but also provides training to state and 
+local law enforcement providers. In addition, to enhance global law 
+enforcement efforts, FLETC develops and offers a curriculum that 
+includes international applications.
+
+Conclusion:
+    Our homeland is safer and more secure than it was a year ago, 
+thanks in part to the dedicated and talented team we have in BTS which 
+excels at coordinating and effecting cross-component activities. 
+Through their efforts, and with the support of our partners in 
+government and the public and private sectors, we will continue to 
+substantially improve our nation's security. I thank the Congress for 
+its support, which has been critical to bringing us to this point. With 
+your continued support for our fiscal year 2005 budget, we will 
+continue to improve the security of our nation.
+    I am grateful to be here today to outline our efforts for a safer 
+and more secure America. Thank you for inviting me to appear before you 
+today, and I look forward to answering your questions.
+
+    Mr. Camp. It is clear that this budget makes significant 
+progress in smart security initiatives and programs. And I 
+think implementing prescreening programs such as Nexus, FAST, 
+and C-TPAT, which really help commercial truckers, travelers 
+who cross the border frequently and with some regularity--I 
+think that helps us move these low-risk cargo and travelers 
+through ports of entry and allowing the resources to be applied 
+to high-risk and sort of unknown.
+    My question to you is can you just expand a little bit on 
+these preclearance programs and what might be happening in 
+terms of facilitating legitimate trade and travel in terms of 
+your Department?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, the President's 2005 budget builds 
+upon these initiatives that gives us more information in 
+advance of when the cargo leaves the foreign ports. We have 
+obviously implemented the 24-hour rule, which requires 
+information of those cargo shipments before they leave the 
+foreign ports.
+    The budget provides for $25 million to enhance the National 
+Targeting Center, and this is money that will allow us to more 
+effectively take the information that we get, analyze it, and 
+target those at-risk shipments that should have physical 
+inspections. We first, of course, invest in nonintrusive 
+inspection equipment, and if that points out some anomalies, we 
+take it a step further with a physical inspection. And it was 
+actually a $20 million increase for the National Targeting 
+Center. It is a $25 million increase for the Container Security 
+Initiative. We have continued to expand from the megaports to 
+the second tier of ports where we can deploy our personnel to 
+help screen with our foreign counterparts those shipments that 
+might pose a risk to us.
+    A big part of it is the partnership with industry, where we 
+have 5,000 partners that have signed up to enhance their own 
+security in the supply chain, and we are going to build upon 
+that.
+    Mr. Camp. Are you looking at ways to have greater 
+participation in these programs, such as additional enrollment 
+centers or facilities, expanding dedicated lanes, adding 
+programs at other points of entry? And I think particularly in 
+the container initiative, I know that there has been a great 
+effort in adding as many ports as possible. If you could talk a 
+little bit about the progress that you have made there, I think 
+that would be interesting to the committee.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, we are working to expand the 
+dedicated lanes for our FAST, which is Free And Secure Trade 
+lanes, for those commercial trucks that have their drivers and 
+their companies with background checks, with added security 
+measures, where they could move through those dedicated lanes 
+more rapidly. And we are expanding those lanes, Nexus on the 
+northern border, and we are expanding that technology on the 
+southern border as well. We will be continuing that rollout 
+where you have infrastructure investment and the expansion of 
+those lanes.
+    In terms of the enrollment centers that you mentioned, we 
+are trying to make those accessible to those that want to 
+utilize this and make them efficient with our Canadian 
+counterparts for the processing of those. I would be happy to 
+get the specific number that we will be expanding to this 
+coming year, but we are working very diligently to expand the 
+number of those dedicated lanes.
+    Mr. Camp. I think we are all very interested in the 
+integration and coordination of the various marine functions 
+that are in the Department of Homeland Security. Do you have 
+some insight in how you are evaluating, developing the best 
+strategy to maximize these resources? And does that include the 
+acquisition of equipment, aircraft, detention machines, boats 
+and that sort of thing?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. That is very important. And in reference to 
+our air assets, we have a Joint Procurement Committee in which 
+the Coast Guard, the Customs, Border Patrol, or ICE look at 
+acquiring additional air assets. They are to coordinate through 
+that Joint Procurement Committee to make sure we are not 
+duplicating. And if there is some ability to achieve greater 
+leverage by bringing those procurement bidding process 
+together, we will do that.
+    But in addition, operationally, I just came back from the 
+Arizona border, Congressman Shadegg's territory down there, and 
+we rolled out our Arizona Border Patrol Initiative. One of the 
+very important parts of it is having an integrator there that 
+will integrate the coordination of the various assets that are 
+used in patrolling the border. So we are doing operationally as 
+well as from a procurement standpoint.
+    Mr. Camp. There has been a great deal of discussion 
+regarding the Homeland Security Department's plans to develop a 
+regional structure for Customs and commerce issues. And I 
+understand there has been an announcement of 7 to 10 regional 
+directors positioned around the country to be points of contact 
+in the event of an emergency. Is this a priority in the 2005 
+budget, the regional structure? And how would those regional 
+centers differ from Customs management centers that are 
+currently in place?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, the Customs management centers, of 
+course, are solely focused on the organizations of Customs and 
+Border Protection. And, of course, the regional concept would 
+be DHS, which would include all 22 agencies that would be a 
+part of DHS, and would give a regional director, through acting 
+on behalf of the Secretary, the capability to coordinate the 
+operations of those various Homeland Security agencies, 
+particularly in the event that there was an incident or a 
+crisis to manage. But it would also help to facilitate 
+communication with our State and local counterparts, carrying 
+out exercises and training programs more efficiently.
+    That program of regions was mentioned in the President's 
+2004 budget. We continue to support that. We are working very 
+diligently to make sure we have the right strategy and waiting 
+to move forward with this before it is actually announced to 
+the public and implemented. But we are getting much closer to 
+getting a working model of that regional concept.
+    Mr. Camp. I think the concern is that all Federal policies 
+and laws be enforced uniformly in that kind of a system. Do you 
+have any management controls or policies in place to help 
+ensure that?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, the first goal would be to make sure 
+that there is the national policy that is implemented, so you 
+don't want to wind up having, you know, regional directors 
+determining various regional policies in terms of implementing 
+our national strategy.
+    So it will be a national strategy that will have 
+operational flexibility. And I think that might be what you are 
+getting at, that they will have the flexibility to design 
+operations consistent with what is needed in that particular 
+region. And I think that is what has been somewhat missing in 
+the past. So national policies, but regional flexibility in 
+operations.
+    Mr. Camp. Thank you.
+    The gentlewoman from California, the Ranking Member, may 
+inquire.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    And again, thank you, Asa, for being before us.
+    The first question I have for you has to do with the 
+Transportation Security Administration, which has a mission of 
+securing all modes of transportation, and the recent GAO report 
+that talked about the lack of clarity or relationship between 
+the transfer of all of this happening between TSA and 
+Department of Transportation. In fact, quoting them, they said: 
+The roles and the responsibilities of TSA and DOD and 
+Transportation Security have yet to be clearly delineated, 
+which creates a potential for duplicating or conflicting 
+efforts as both entities move forward with their security 
+efforts.
+    And it also said: DOT and TSA have not yet formally defined 
+their roles and responsibilities in securing all the modes of 
+transportation.
+    And in talking to staffs, we sort of get this, well, that 
+is not ours, that is theirs. Everybody is pointing, but--a lot 
+of it, but we are not getting answers about who is doing what. 
+And I think it is reflective of the fact that we spend $92 
+million a week, I think--is that true--a week on airport 
+screening under TSA, but you only spent $115 million in all 
+grants for public transit in the past year.
+    So I would like you to give me your idea of where you are 
+in defining the roles of what you are going to take care of and 
+what DOT is going to take care of, or not, if they are not 
+really the ones that are supposed to do that, and a breakdown 
+of the spending and the priorities for securing the different 
+modes of transportation. What is the plan that you have in 
+mind? How far along are you with that plan? What are the 
+negotiations you have with DOT? What can we anticipate; again, 
+going back to this whole issue that Americans are asking, what 
+are you doing about rail? And, you know, everybody reacts to 
+the latest thing that happens. First it was the airports, then 
+it was the rails. Who knows what it will be next. So we have to 
+have a plan. And who is in charge is basically what I am 
+asking.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. We have a very good working relationship 
+with the Department of Transportation. And certainly you could 
+look at it that there is some areas of jurisdiction that you 
+could say is covered by both. But I think the line of authority 
+is very clear that the Homeland Security focuses on the 
+security of our transportation system and is ultimately 
+responsible.
+    We work in conjunction in carrying out that mission with 
+the capabilities of the Department of Transportation, and they 
+in turn have the lead in the safety area, which is somewhat to 
+be distinguished from the security aspect. But they are clearly 
+complementary of each other, so there is that close working 
+relationship. But as we have the responsibility for the 
+security of our transportation system, we utilize the 
+capabilities and the strengths of the Department of 
+Transportation.
+    Now, in reference to what our strategy is and the other 
+modes of transportation, you are absolutely correct that there 
+is much more invested in aviation security, substantially 
+because Congress clearly defined exactly what we do in aviation 
+security, and it was a comprehensive solution with 100 percent 
+inspection of passengers and bags.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Asa, I don't anticipate we are going to do 100 
+percent inspection of anything really on our mass transit. We 
+have just, you know, millions of riders every single day who 
+use this. But I think America wants to know, we want to know, 
+you know, what kind of priority do you have? When I looked at 
+the $115 million that are given in grants, they are pretty 
+open, and they are pretty wide in interpretation on what you 
+can spend them on. So is there a grand plan?
+    Are we just leaving it up to each transit system?
+    And when we talk to the transit system, they are telling 
+us, you know, we need tons more money for keeping this system 
+safe, and it is really a funding problem. And, you know, I used 
+to work in Transportation. I don't know what the fare box 
+recovery rate is these days, but it is probably 40 cents or 
+less on the dollar. So they really are strapped for money.
+    So what is the grand plan? I mean, are you working with 
+them on this? Are you working with Transportation? How do we 
+know where to put the funds and what we need?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, we are absolutely working with them. 
+And the grant money, I believe, has been effectively used and 
+targeted with the transit authorities. It is very important 
+that they help develop the solutions that is unique to their 
+security requirements. The security requirements for the 
+transit system in New York City might be different than the 
+security requirements that are needed in Los Angeles or 
+Chicago. And so there has to be some flexibility there.
+    What we are doing is very substantial through the 
+investment in biosensors, through the development of new 
+security measures that minimize the risk and the damage that 
+could come out, insisting upon assessments that are being made 
+that are actively being conducted, and making security 
+judgments and applications based upon those assessments.
+    The TSA has a substantial investment in making sure that 
+there is training. We have had exercises that brought together 
+these authorities to look at our appropriate responses. But 
+there is a different solution than what is in the aviation 
+arena. As you pointed out, we have a very open system, and I 
+don't think that the American public would expect to have that 
+same solution of 100 percent screening. So we are looking at 
+better ways of doing it, whether it is based upon intelligence 
+applying a specific solution, maybe it is a screening response. 
+The law enforcement presence is critical, and the explosive 
+detection capability that we are building in these transit 
+systems is an important response as well.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Mr. Chairman, may I ask one real quick, quick 
+question here, please?
+    Mr. Camp. The gentlewoman's time has expired, but I will 
+let her ask one more question.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Any response to the fact that TSA's budget 
+only puts 2 percent towards rail?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. I think it reflects the distinction in 
+solutions, and that is an appropriate investment. As we 
+continue to development this, it might need to grow, but at the 
+present time, when you are looking at not doing 100 percent 
+screening, but partnering with the local governments and 
+transit authorities, that is the right approach. And that 
+amount does not include the hundreds of millions of dollars 
+that have been invested in grants through the Office of 
+Domestic Preparedness.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for indulging me.
+    Mr. Camp. The gentleman from Texas Mr. Smith is recognized 
+for 8 minutes.
+    Mr. Smith. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    Mr. Hutchinson, I would like ask my first question on 
+behalf of a Texas colleague, Pete Sessions, who is not a member 
+of this committee, but who has very much of an interest in your 
+answer. And the question is this: TSA apparently is refusing to 
+help Dallas-Fort Worth Airport pay for explosive detection 
+equipment on a 90-to-10 ratio as they are required to do by 
+law. Apparently TSA is agreeing to pay on a 75/25 percent 
+reimbursement ratio, but is not providing the 90 percent of the 
+cost of that type of equipment. Why is that?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. The original congressional mandate was 75/
+25, and that is the basis on which our agreements were entered 
+into and the plans were made. I believe it was the FAA 
+reauthorization bill changed that formula to 90/10. Obviously, 
+that is problematic because we have moved forward on a 75/25 
+basis, and you are going to--we are not going to be able to 
+cover as many airports with the on-line solution. And so we 
+want to cover the maximum number of airports.
+    So, obviously we will follow the law, but we are asking 
+that Congress look at taking that back to a 75/25 ratio.
+    Mr. Smith. I can understand the rationale, but if Congress 
+does not change the law, then you would expect to reimburse at 
+the stated 90/10 ratio.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. We would fully comply with the law, 
+whatever the law would require.
+    Mr. Smith. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
+    And I would also like to ask you, and this is a tough 
+question, and I am not sure that there is an easy answer, but 
+is it possible, with the current funding levels, for you all to 
+accomplish two goals? The first goal is to keep delays at the 
+border of border crossers and the adverse economic impact that 
+might accrue to a minimum at the same time you are protecting 
+our homeland.
+    Now, those are sometimes conflicted goals, and obviously 
+the top priority is to protect the homeland. But is your 
+proposed funding sufficient to accomplish those two goals?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Yes. The funding that we have at present 
+and with the request in the 2005 budget allows us to balance 
+those two objectives, using technology, new systems, to move 
+commerce and add to security primarily through the US-VISIT 
+program, that, as you are very familiar with on the southern 
+border, we are having to comply with the requirement for the 50 
+busiest land ports. And we are making appropriate adjustments 
+from the airport solution to the land borders so we don't clog 
+the borders, but we can add a measure of increased security.
+    Now, we are also, through the FAST lanes, the sentry lanes, 
+where you have the dedicated travelers with security background 
+checks, with a laser card that can move through more rapidly, 
+we are expanding the number of those dedicated lanes. 
+Obviously, that is measured out as to how fast we go. I think 
+we are at the right pace.
+    Mr. Smith. Mr. Secretary, to follow up on that point I just 
+made, Homeland Security and protecting our homeland, I 
+understand that the Department of Homeland Security is 
+considering exempting the holders of border crossing cards from 
+the US-VISIT program. I could understand that if we had readers 
+available at the border to check the identity of those using 
+the border crossing cards. At this point we do not. Apparently 
+they are used secondarily in certain instances. But how could 
+we be considering exempting all those individuals from a 
+security check if those readers are not in place?
+    And let me add to that that I heard recently that there was 
+a pilot program set up that did check the identities of those 
+with the border crossing cards. And in this small pilot 
+program, there were 350 individual whose IDs were not valid. So 
+when you have that kind of a security gap, that kind of a 
+security loophole, how can we afford to give a pass to 
+individuals and not check their identities?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. You are correct. We absolutely have to have 
+the readers deployed. I would say that the border crossing 
+cardholders are subjected to a security check. They have their 
+biometrics taken; they are run through our terrorist data 
+bases; they have background checks, and they are issued the 
+card. But it is also important to read those cards when they 
+come through to verify identity. The readers I have given 
+direction to be deployed. It is not just the reader, but it is 
+the system that backs that up, and those should be in place by 
+the end of June.
+    Mr. Smith. So you are saying, if I understand you 
+correctly, that the border crossing cardholders will not be 
+exempt from the US-VISIT program until there are readers 
+available to check each one of those individuals?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. That is correct. Now, I mean, timingwise of 
+course we are making decisions really for the end of the year. 
+And so any exemption for the border crossing cardholders from 
+US-VISIT will be an end-of-the-year solution. And before then 
+we will have the readers all in place.
+    Mr. Smith. And the readers will not be used secondarily? 
+They will be used for every individual coming through?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. No. The readers will be deployed in 
+secondary inspection. So if an inspector has a question about 
+the identity of a border crossing card, it will be referred to 
+secondary inspection.
+    Mr. Smith. That still, in my mind, leaves a security gap 
+when you are not checking each individual with a reader, as we 
+saw from the pilot program. And I am just afraid that that is 
+an invitation to some individuals to use a false ID to get into 
+the country very easily.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. You are certainly correct that the most 
+ideal system would be to have those readers at every primary 
+inspection point. It would just be really impossible to have 
+the flow of people that is necessary at the ports of entry and 
+to do it in a fast enough fashion under the present development 
+of that technology.
+    Mr. Smith. It seems to me that--and this may be a budget 
+question. It seems to me that if you had the funds for a 
+sufficient number of readers, you would not delay entry, but 
+you would increase security. So is it a budget problem that 
+we--is that the reason that we don't have enough readers?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, I am not sure we have enough readers 
+for every lane at primary inspection. So it might partly be 
+budget, but the primary issue, whether you are talking about 
+US-VISIT or whether you are talking about the border crossing 
+card readers, that means every person who comes through, you 
+take their biometric. And if you added, you know, 60 seconds 
+for everyone to take that and have it entered and read, it 
+would just really exacerbate the lines.
+    Mr. Smith. What percentage of the individuals coming across 
+using the border crossing cards would you expect to check on 
+that secondary level with the readers?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. I think that it would be significant, and 
+it would be sufficient, because the inspectors have got the 
+best judgment. Well, first of all, you have got a photograph 
+that you can compare to compare identity. If there is any 
+question, they go into secondary. And second, I am sure you 
+take a random sample and some verifications so that there would 
+be a huge security value when those readers are in place.
+    Mr. Smith. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
+    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    Mr. Camp. I thank the gentleman.
+    The Chair now recognizes Ms. Jackson-Lee of Texas. The 
+gentlewoman may inquire for 5 minutes.
+    Ms. Jackson-Lee. I thank the distinguished chairman.
+    And to the Secretary, thank you very much for your presence 
+here. And let me acknowledge my colleagues and particularly the 
+presence of Congresswoman Donna Christensen.
+    If I might, Mr. Secretary, just to offer a few remarks 
+preceding my series of questions. I have filed most recently 
+H.R. 3918, which is the Comprehensive Immigration Fairness Act 
+of 2004. The focus is, I think, to deal head on with one of the 
+singular issues that we are debating, and that is the question 
+of the documentation or the existence of the illegal aliens in 
+the United States. I think the administration and Congress will 
+agree that the number varies from 8 million to 14 million. It 
+may be just a little bit more.
+    I am concerned as we begin this debate that we don't look 
+very carefully at the President's good intentions, but maybe 
+the down side of what he has now created, and that is a 
+guesswork program, proposal, or announcement with no teeth or 
+no actual, if you will, process engaged.
+    And I raise this point because you indicated you have just 
+come back from Arizona--most of us have focused our attention 
+on the Arizona border, the California border, and the Texas 
+border--with what I understand is a sizeable increase of 
+individuals coming across the border who are now suggesting 
+they are coming because of amnesty. There are two things that 
+happen there. One, its jeopardizes their safety and their 
+quality of life as well as those who are on the border. Two, it 
+misrepresents what many of us have for many years advocated, 
+and that is earned access to legalization which allows hard-
+working, tax-paying individuals in this country to access 
+legalization through a process. Mine in particular, 5 years of 
+presence here, taxpaying, a job, no criminal record, et cetera. 
+That is a defined steady process for access to legalization. 
+Now we have representation that there is something called 
+amnesty or guest worker program, and look what you have.
+    My question to you is what--in addition to this border--
+expanded border program that you are having, are there 
+resources in fiscal year 2005 that you are directing towards 
+this enhanced effort? Is this a temporary effort?
+    And, two, on the policy question, will you engage with us 
+on the fact that a represented amnesty program does nothing but 
+undermine those who are already in line and also those who are 
+here trying to access legalization and for a variety of reasons 
+have not been able to do so?
+    Let me throw two other questions out to you. The other 
+again is again on the US-VISIT program. I visited that with 
+Chairman Cox and others at Miami International, and, of course, 
+I studied my Houston Intercontinental Airport in terms of its 
+process and how it works. Certainly the staff that are there 
+are very diligent. My question, of course, is that the US-VISIT 
+program, about 360 million will go through land ports of entry. 
+The question is that is five times more that goes through 
+airports and seaports, and whether or not we have the resources 
+to collect the data and then enforce it on the basis of that 
+kind of travel.
+    And the other point--and the last point tracks 
+Congresswoman Sanchez's question. Certainly in the backdrop of 
+the terrible disaster of Spain, my question is how we will 
+design both policy and resources to look closely at some 
+process, some method that answers the question of railway 
+security, does not--I don't believe that we have the capacity 
+to encompass every aspect of railway security, particularly 
+both commercial and passenger. But my question to you is are we 
+beginning to study this question because we have a real and 
+serious problem? And I thank you for your presence here.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Thank you, Congresswoman. And, first of 
+all, I would emphasize that the President's temporary worker 
+program principles that were outlined is not an amnesty 
+proposal. The President has made that absolutely clear. And 
+from an old rule of law guy, I believe that it offers a new 
+approach that is different than the immigration reform 
+proposals in the past, and it would certainly increase the 
+security of our borders and our Nation.
+    Ms. Jackson-Lee. And I think, as you know, it is being 
+represented as an amnesty program because it is not geared 
+towards earning access to citizenship.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. In reference to the apprehensions, I see 
+across the border that they are declining, and there hasn't 
+been any uptick as a result of any announcements. The only area 
+that it has increased, and certainly a concern, is in the 
+Arizona border arena where 40 percent of the illegal crossings 
+occur in our Nation. And I think, though, that that is a 
+reason, of course, for the Arizona Border Patrol Initiative.
+    You asked about the resources. Those are built into the 
+base, except for the technology that we are piloting there 
+including the unmanned aerial vehicles. And there is a request 
+in the 2005 budget to continue the exploring and piloting of 
+UAV projects. And so that is an important part of the 
+President's request.
+    When it comes to rail security, we have done a great deal 
+in that arena, and I think that is important for the American 
+people to understand is that we didn't get a wakeup call last 
+week; we were fully aware of what needs to be done in rail 
+security; we have invested in that. It is a different system. 
+We are going to continue to work in that. Intelligence is a 
+very important part of it. The better our intelligence is, the 
+more we can target our resources and our protective measures, 
+and that really is critical when you are looking at a system 
+that has been historically wide open. But we are doing much, 
+and we will do more.
+    Mr. Camp. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
+    The gentleman from Arizona may inquire for 5 minutes.
+    Mr. Shadegg. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    Mr. Under Secretary, good to see you again. We enjoyed the 
+same flight out from Arizona yesterday, and I want to thank you 
+for coming to Arizona. I want to applaud you for the Arizona 
+Border Control Initiative. I think it is a step in the right 
+direction, and at least I would like to believe it is in 
+response to our trying to point out to you the serious problem 
+we have on the Arizona border. As you just noted, 40 percent of 
+all of the traffic so far as the statistics show right now are 
+coming across the Arizona border, and I appreciate your putting 
+resources behind that initiative.
+    I also want to thank you for Operation ICE Storm. I don't 
+know if you have noticed the daily press in Arizona, but 
+literally that has had a tremendous impact in terms of 
+disclosing safe houses where coyotes are stashing human cargo 
+and making neighborhoods unsafe and flaunting our law. And I 
+appreciate that.
+    I have a series of questions which I would like to get 
+through before having to go vote. First, when originally 
+announced, Operation ICE Storm was a temporary program that was 
+to last, I think, until the end of this fiscal year. I know 
+that a portion of the positions in Operation ICE Storm have now 
+been made permanent; something close to a third of those 
+positions have been made permanent. Do you know what the plan 
+is for Operation ICE Storm as we go forward? Has a decision 
+been made that it will end at the end of 2004, or is it still 
+an open question?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, first of all, ICE Storm has been 
+enormously successful, and for that reason we have continued 
+the programs and folded it in as part of our ABC Initiative. 
+The whole initiative will be evaluated October 1, and at that 
+point we will see what adjustments should be made and what 
+should be continued on a permanent basis. And I want to 
+acknowledge that this whole initiative came about as a result 
+of congressional education, including your own, invitations to 
+the border, showing us what is needed there. So it certainly is 
+in response to your efforts.
+    Mr. Shadegg. Well, and the Secretary himself was down 
+there, spent a day on the border with Senator McCain and 
+Congressmen Colby and Flake and myself, and I would like to 
+believe that was helpful as well.
+    I believe you just answered this question, but I want to 
+nail it down for sure. You have the funding for the ABC 
+Initiative in your 2005 budget and adequate for you to proceed?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. The answer is yes. But it is a very 
+significant investment from a Department standpoint, and it 
+certainly puts a strain because of that investment. We find the 
+money to make it work because we have the challenge that is 
+there, but it is supported in the 2005 budget in every respect.
+    Mr. Shadegg. I am going to put these next two questions to 
+you jointly and let you kind of pick amongst them.
+    Well, first let me tell you, I understand that the Hermes 
+450 UAV has been selected for the program. I would like to sit 
+down with you at some point in the near future and discuss that 
+particular selection. I did go look at the Predator in 
+operation and tried to make a separate visit to see a second 
+UAV that was available. I am extremely pleased that you are 
+going to put UAVs on the border, but I would like to be 
+educated on why the Hermes was picked over its competitors.
+    Two questions. One, a lot of people say America isn't safer 
+today. Some would likely contend that. I would like to hear 
+your comments on why you believe that, kind of the highlights; 
+if you were convincing somebody America is safer, what you 
+would point to as kind of the top, ``Here are the most 
+important things we have done to make America safer in the last 
+year.''
+    And, second, with specific reference to biometrics, do you 
+not believe that at some point in time there is going to be a 
+need to, in fact, make biometrics a part of the entry process 
+for every visitor?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Yes, I think biometrics is our future for 
+border entry, but also for our foreign counterparts. I think 
+there has been a huge wakeup call even in Madrid as to border 
+security. And not just the United States is moving to 
+biometrics, but internationally we are trying to move together. 
+We are moving much more rapidly and setting the pace.
+    But going back to Congressman Smith's questions, we are 
+limited now, but as technology develops, we will be able to do 
+more, and we will probably be able to do it eventually at the 
+primary points. But we are not there yet.
+    Mr. Shadegg. And the ``not there yet,'' I guess from your 
+answer, is it takes too much time.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Time, absolutely. Time and the technology 
+has not developed sufficiently enough, but there are ways that 
+we can do more. Technology is continuing to develop in this 
+way. So that is our objective, and we are balancing commerce 
+and security, but every step of the way we are enhancing 
+security.
+    You asked--and thank you for the question--as to why 
+America is safer. First of all, first the United States VISIT, 
+US-VISIT, that allows us to have the biometric capability of 
+confirmation that has allowed us to prevent over 100 criminal 
+aliens trying to enter the country illegally that very well 
+could have been a terrorist.
+    By the fact that we have increased our border capability in 
+terms of security, more surveillance, more sensors, also in 
+terms of aviation security, clearly we are more secure with the 
+layered approach that we have. The fact that the American 
+public feels confidence in what we are doing even in a time of 
+heightened alert, they continue flying because they believe in 
+what we are doing.
+    So all across the board from aviation to the organizational 
+changes that we have made that enhance security at our borders 
+where it is a--the communication with our State and local 
+counterparts, sharing intelligence. When we had the incident in 
+Madrid, intelligence was immediately out to the people that 
+needed to have it. So I could go on, but obviously there is 
+much more that needs to be done, but a substantial amount has 
+been accomplished.
+    Mr. Camp. Thank you. The gentleman's time has expired.
+    With unanimous consent, the gentlewoman from the Virgin 
+Islands may inquire for 5 minutes.
+    Mrs. Christensen. Thank you, Mr.Chairman, and I realize 
+time is of the essence. I want to ask two questions, and I want 
+to thank you for the response that I get from the bureaus that 
+are in the Virgin Islands when we run into difficulty and need 
+some adjustments. But I want to talk about the continuing 
+efforts to secure the borders of the U.S., as you mentioned in 
+your opening statement, on the territorial areas.
+    The Virgin Islands represents about 200 miles of pretty 
+much unprotected border, and I would like to know what my 
+constituents and I can expect in the 2005 budget to help us to 
+secure those--that open border, where a recent trip to the 
+Virgin Islands showed some increases in contraband and people 
+coming through as you tighten up on the western side.
+    But I also want to ask a question about my Pacific 
+territories. You may know that we have a special relationship 
+with three independent governments in the Pacific known as the 
+Freely Associated States, Palau, Marshall Islands and the 
+Federated States of Micronesia, and under our relationship with 
+them, they have the right to freely migrate to the U.S. and its 
+territories. We also have many defense obligations to maintain 
+the security of that region. Collectively these 3 governments 
+cover some 3 million square miles of ocean that can be used as 
+points of entry into the U.S.
+    Does the Department of Homeland Security have personnel and 
+resources devoted to the challenges of homeland security 
+presented to us by our unique relationship with these three 
+governments? Are we working with them and providing them with 
+assistance in border security, immigration and the maritime 
+security issues?
+    So basically the question is for the Virgin Islands and 
+these Pacific independent governments, are we on the radar 
+screen? Is there funding in the 2005 budget to help with our 
+issues?
+    Mr. Camp. Mr. Secretary, I am going to have to recess the 
+committee for a couple minutes. I know the Chairman is on his 
+way back, and we will continue when he comes back, but there is 
+a vote on. So we will recess for just a few minutes.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. I will get you a better answer then.
+    Mr. Camp. I see Mr. Cox has just walked in. We will not 
+recess the subcommittee, and Mr. Cox will take the gavel.
+    Mr. Cox. [Presiding.] Mr. Secretary, please give me a 
+response.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. First of all, I am grateful for our 
+partnership, and always the information that you have been able 
+to provide me, and for the cooperation we have had with the 
+Virgin Islands on security issues. And the funds that are 
+available through our grant programs, it is my understanding 
+that those apply to the territories just like the State and 
+local governments, and so there is a funding mechanism for the 
+security steps that can be taken, obviously based upon the 
+security needs and the security plans that are in place.
+    And then in reference to the vast territories and the vast 
+ocean that separates us by distance, those--you know, the 
+United States Coast Guard has jurisdiction in those areas, 
+Customs and border protection, and they are certainly more 
+limited in those far-away areas, but they do have 
+responsibility. We are trying to make sure that we fulfill our 
+duties in reference to those. I would be happy to get you more 
+specific answers, but we do certainly consider that as an 
+important area of our responsibility.
+    Mrs. Christensen. Thank you. And for the Virgin Islands, we 
+have been taking great advantage of the grants that are 
+available, but we don't have a Border Patrol in place, and we 
+feel that that is a real critical piece of homeland security 
+not just for the Virgin Islands, but for the Nation, as we are 
+a thoroughfare for people coming from mainland China and the 
+Middle East as well.
+    Another question about airports. There are some airports 
+that have that they have had some MOUs with the Department of 
+Homeland Security that would help them in terms of funding to 
+do the renovations and put whatever was needed in place to be 
+able to meet that 100 percent baggage screening, and I don't 
+want to be specific, but some of those airports are not 
+receiving any funding to assist them, and they are going to 
+have a lot of difficulty in meeting that requirement. What can 
+you tell us in terms of how are those airports going to be able 
+to do that 100 percent screening without your support, or do 
+you have some support to give them?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, it is a challenge to the airports. 
+You know, we put the equipment in place, but they want to be 
+able to put it into a system and have to make renovations to 
+accomplish that. We call it the on-line system. And that is the 
+purpose of the LOIs, or the letters of intent, that allow that 
+funding, and whether it is 75/25 or 90 to 10, we have to 
+prioritize those projects. And we are working through the 
+highest priority, the volume, the largest airports, and as soon 
+as we are able budgetwise and systemwide to do it, we will move 
+to the other airports that are certainly in need of this as 
+well.
+    Mrs. Christensen. Mr.Chairman, I would like to get a report 
+up of which are the airports that have been designated as top 
+10 or what the priorities are, because as you know, there is 
+some airports that don't seem to be on the priority list. By 
+nature of their being large hubs and the number of planes that 
+go through there, it should be on the priority list, and they 
+don't seem to be getting that funding.
+    Mr. Cox. Well, Secretary Hutchinson, if you will consider 
+that a formal request from Mrs. Christensen and respond to it, 
+we would most appreciate it.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. We would be happy to.
+    Mr. Cox. The Chair would recognize himself for questions 
+for just a moment and add my welcome to those of the other 
+members of the committee. We appreciate your coming before us 
+once more this time to talk about your budget, which is going 
+to have grown from $14 billion to $16 billion. The 10 percent 
+1-year increase that you are proposing is substantial, but 
+particularly are large in comparison to what is occurring 
+elsewhere throughout the executive branch, what Congress is 
+looking at for the next fiscal year's budget. So we are 
+preparing to entrust you and the Department with a great deal 
+more resources not only than you have had, but that anyone else 
+is going to be getting, because the mission of homeland 
+security is important, and that is why this hearing is 
+important. We want to find out both through this dialogue and 
+also with our follow-up questions exactly where that money 
+might go and what our priorities ought to be.
+    I want to ask you a very broad-brush question about your 
+Directorate and also the Directorate of IAIP. The information 
+that we are now gathering in the wake of the Madrid bombings is 
+starting to paint a picture that we have seen before. Just as 
+before September 11th, we had some information on some of the 
+people that ultimately were involved in bombing the World Trade 
+Center and Washington and killing people in Pennsylvania 
+midflight. Here in this case in Spain, we also now have in 
+custody people seemingly complicit or perhaps the planners of 
+this bombing, planners or participants in it, who were within 
+our grasp beforehand, and they seem to be connected to alQaeda. 
+It suggests the importance of connecting the dots.
+    This one connection that we have been able to draw in 
+particular between Jamal Zougam and the 9/11 planners, Yarkas 
+who is in custody, is particularly disturbing. Of course, 
+Zougam's apartment had been searched by Spanish authorities in 
+August of 2001, August 10th, just a month before the September 
+11 bombings, and what we discovered in his apartment were, 
+first, phone numbers of other Al-Qa`ida suspected members in a 
+cell that was purportedly organized by Yarkas, who is now in 
+custody in Spain for allegedly planning the September 11th 
+bombings. We discovered a tape in his apartment that showed 
+jihadists in Dagastan. So obviously this international 
+connection to international Wahhabists, to Al-Qa`ida, to the 
+very same people that we have been tracking all along rears its 
+head again.
+    It suggests to me, and I am just one Member, albeit the 
+Chairman, that the resources that we might devote in Spain to 
+hardening the train system, to putting armed guards everywhere 
+and trying to search everyone who goes on to the train and so 
+on, as expensive as that would be, would not be as well spent 
+as resources connecting these dots, because we had some of 
+these people--we almost had them, and had we connected the dots 
+just a little bit better, we might have stopped this. Zougam 
+was not one who was indicted by Judge Garzon, so he was at 
+large, but we put him on our terrorist list here, and that 
+group is on our terrorist list, and it is somebody who we meant 
+to be keeping track of.
+    So I want to ask you as you take these enormous new 
+resources, 10 percent bump in a $14 billion, how much of them 
+can we expect will be devoted to this effort of connecting the 
+dots? How much of it should go on in your Directorate, and 
+alternatively, how much of it should go on in IAIP?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, the analytical part of intelligence 
+should be conducted in IAIP. That is their responsibility for 
+the analysis. We are a customer of theirs. We are also a source 
+for them. Where we fit into the intelligence picture is that 
+through the 110,000 employees, the inspectors, the agents in 
+our arena, we work informants, we collect intelligence, and we 
+provide that immediately to our intelligence counterparts in 
+IAIP for their analysis. And so we are both a supplier of 
+intelligence as well as a customer of their analysis. And it 
+has been very effective, and it certainly improves every day.
+    I think your point is that--I certainly agree with--that we 
+have to invest in intelligence, and that analysis pays huge 
+dividends to us. We obviously continue having to recognize that 
+there is going to be not a perfect system, and so we have to 
+have the layered security that will complement and supplement 
+their efforts.
+    Mr. Cox. Thank you. My red light is on. We have a brief 
+opportunity for further questions if any Member would like to 
+do so.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Yes, Mr.Chairman.
+    Mr. Cox. The gentlelady from California Ms.Sanchez is 
+recognized.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Thank you, Mr.Chairman.
+    Mr. Secretary, yesterday you announced the Arizona Border 
+Control Initiative, and you stated that the initiative is 
+designed to achieve control of the Arizona border by deterring, 
+detecting, arresting and prosecuting all cross-border illicit 
+trafficking by combining the assets from several agencies, 
+Immigration and Customs Enforcement, CBP, Transportation 
+Security Administration and other Federal agencies.
+    You also indicated that the initiative would transfer 260 
+Border Patrol agents and CBP officers permanently or 
+temporarily. I think you said 200 per minute and 60 temporary 
+transfers.
+    My questions are how long will this initiative last? Is the 
+260 figure an annual amount, or is it just cumulative over 
+whatever time period you are thinking of doing this?
+    And the real reason I am asking this is maybe for you to 
+identify if you have a plan that tells us where these 260 
+agents are coming from. The biggest concern that I have is that 
+we saw a tripling of agents up on the northern border because 
+of the requirements of the Patriot Act, but those all came from 
+the southern border predominantly, meaning it left open areas 
+like Laredo very, very understaffed in Texas. And so the 
+question is where are you going to get these agents from? Where 
+are you moving them from? And, you know, what is that going to 
+do to our Border Patrol?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. The initiative will go through October1, 
+when it will be evaluated and a determination made then whether 
+it needs to be beefed up, modified, what adjustments should be 
+made at that point.
+    Ms. Sanchez. It starts from now to October 1st?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Correct. And it will be--for example, the 
+200 agents will be in place gradually between now and June1, 
+where they will be fully deployed. You are correct that 60 of 
+those are BORSTAR agents that are temporary assignments, but 
+200 Border Patrol agents are permanent assignments to the 
+Arizona initiative. These come from not other areas that were 
+diminishing, but based upon the new resources that Congress--
+capability Congress has given to us, it will be balanced 
+between experienced agents and new agents that will be going 
+out into the field.
+    So this is a great opportunity for us, and we will enhance 
+those as necessary to get the job done.
+    Ms. Sanchez. So it is a combination of experienced agents 
+and new agents. Where are these experienced agents--they are 
+still coming off from--you are taking them from somewhere.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Right, but the FTEs or the actual positions 
+are new allocations that have been given to us. We will fill 
+those in part by experienced agents that will be back-filled in 
+another area with new graduates that will go out in the field.
+    Ms. Sanchez. So, in other words, in the fiscal year 2004 
+budget, we have new positions for Border Patrol, and those 
+new--those full-time equivalents will be where you are taking 
+these 260 from basically?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. That's correct.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Will the increased resources be placed along 
+the Arizona-Mexican border--with increased resources being 
+placed along the Arizona-Mexican border, don't you think that 
+it is going to push some of these smugglers to other crossing 
+routes? I mean, we experienced that in the California side, 
+where we clamped down heavily and ended up pushing everything 
+out to Nogales and some of the other areas.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, and that is the--hopefully this is 
+the last squeeze by effective border enforcement in California, 
+and, more effective in Texas, it has squeezed and pushed the 
+traffic organization to Arizona. So we are addressing that last 
+frontier there.
+    But secondly, we recognize as we increase our efforts 
+there, there will be the possibility that they are going to try 
+to try different routes. So we are going to be flexible, 
+measure that, and if they do try new routes in different areas, 
+we will have the flexibility to respond to that. So we are 
+going to look for that squeeze and if it does, in fact, happen.
+    Ms. Sanchez. And my last question with respect to the 
+Arizona issue is that the Federal Government--you are currently 
+placing vehicle barriers to protect some of the Department of 
+Interior lands where we see smugglers regularly drive across 
+them. Has the placement of the barriers been completed? And do 
+you intend to pay for additional barriers along the 200-plus 
+miles that we have between Arizona and Mexico that is also DOI 
+land?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Yes. That is a very effective tool. We 
+continue to look at that, particularly in protecting the 
+Department of Interior lands. I will say that Larry Parkinson 
+was there with me representing the Department of Interior. They 
+are a strong partner. They are adding personnel as well, and 
+that capability with the other agencies really adds to the 
+initiative, but we are continuing to look at the deployment of 
+those type of barriers.
+    Ms. Sanchez. And I see that my time is up, so thank you, 
+Mr.Secretary, and thank you, Mr.Chairman, for allowing another 
+set of questions.
+    Mr. Cox. The gentlelady's time is expired.
+    Does the gentlelady from the Virgin Islands have further 
+questions?
+    Mrs. Christensen. Thank you. I just wanted to ask one 
+question and then make a point.
+    The Department of Homeland Security, your Directorate 
+obviously has a great commitment to port security, but the 
+budget request of $566 million is less than--$566 million less 
+than what the Coast Guard estimates ports will have to spend to 
+improve their security.
+    So could you just talk about how you are going to ensure 
+the security of our ports when we are so far short of what the 
+Coast Guard has estimated we need to have in place?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, the estimate that is being referred 
+to is one estimate of security enhancements that very well will 
+be needed in our ports. This is a shared responsibility, and so 
+it is not our judgment that we ought to fund 100 percent of all 
+of the port security enhancements. We do a share, but also the 
+private sector has a responsibility as well, and so they are 
+investing substantially to complement what we are doing in 
+security.
+    Coast Guard's 2005 budget includes $1.75 billion for ports, 
+waterways and coastal security. So there is many layers to it 
+in addition simply to the grant funding that we are putting 
+in--.
+    Mrs. Christensen. So you are saying that between the 
+private sector, the Coast Guard and your Directorate, we will 
+come close to approaching what is really needed?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. We will certainly come closer by that 
+combined effort. You know, and those figures are rather rough 
+estimates as to what is needed. Clearly, more is needed. We 
+pick up some of the slack, but the private sector does as well.
+    Mrs. Christensen. And since we are talking about budget and 
+your budget needs, are you satisfied that what is in your 
+budget is sufficient for your contribution to this effort?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. I think it reflects a very good balance as 
+to the shared responsibility.
+    Mrs. Christensen. I just wanted to go back to the 
+territories that are freely associated with the United States 
+just for a moment to say that these are independent countries 
+in a free associated agreement with the United States. So they 
+don't necessarily fall within our grant programs and will 
+require some additional work with them to adjust those 
+agreements and to make the assistance available to them as they 
+are a part of the larger U.S. family and provide entry into our 
+country.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. I will be happy to work with you on looking 
+at that more closely.
+    Mrs. Christensen. Thank you.
+    Mr. Cox. The gentleman from Massachusetts is recognized.
+    Mr. Markey. Thank you very much, and welcome back, Mr. 
+Secretary. Thank you for coming.
+    I sent a letter to Secretary Ridge to request information 
+about the Department's efforts to strengthen rail security, and 
+I would like to take this opportunity to ask you a few 
+questions about this pressing homeland security issue. Does the 
+Department of Homeland Security intend to establish voluntary 
+security guidelines that transit operators may or may not 
+choose to implement? Will the Department of Homeland Security 
+require that operators implement specific security enhancements 
+in response to the vulnerability of public transportation 
+systems to attacks by terrorist groups?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Could you give me an example of what you 
+are speaking of?
+    Mr. Markey. In terms of?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, when you say voluntary security 
+guidelines versus mandatory security guidelines.
+    Mr. Markey. Will there be a duty for the transit operators 
+to implement standards established by the Department of 
+Homeland Security, or it will be left totally to the discretion 
+of any of these railroads or transit systems, subway systems in 
+the United States as to whether or not they will enhance 
+security? Which is the policy which the Department will choose 
+in order to increase the security on the rails of the United 
+States?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. We have the authority to implement 
+mandatory security requirements. We are not in a position to do 
+that now. We are choosing to make sure that we have the right 
+assessments, the right judgments of what security measures are 
+in place, and that we evaluate it in the right way. That is an 
+option that we would certainly look at whenever--if we 
+determine that--if the private sector or our transit partners 
+are not moving rapidly enough when they have the capability to 
+do so, and that when we have the right judgment as to what that 
+security measure should be.
+    Mr. Markey. And what is your guideline for finishing the 
+assessments of what is needed and what your recommendations 
+will be? What have you laid out in your deadlines?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. I believe that the assessments are 
+substantially complete in terms of the review of the security 
+requirements. We have, in fact, deployed a substantial number 
+of security measures in accordance with the assessments that 
+have been done, and we will continue to review those.
+    Mr. Markey. So will the assessments be done in the next 
+month or 6 months?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. I will have to get back with you on the 
+specific time frame as to how many have already been completed, 
+which ones remain to be done.
+    Mr. Markey. So, for example, just, you know, put a little 
+bit of a highlight on it, as you know, both the Fleet Center in 
+Boston and the Madison Square Garden Democrat and Republican 
+conventions will be situated on top of transit systems. So I 
+know there will be some security put in place in those two 
+venues, but I think the whole country deserves to know that 
+there is some nonvoluntary system that is being put in place.
+    And towards, you know, exploring this a little bit further, 
+given the funding shortfalls that many of these transit systems 
+are facing anyway, how would we expect them, short of having 
+larger grants from the Federal Government, to implement safety 
+guidelines?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, and that is exactly the reason you 
+want to be careful about doing the mandatory requirements, 
+because, for example, Amtrak, not exactly financially wealthy, 
+and we want to make sure if you put requirements on, that they 
+are appropriate, and that they meet the security needs, and 
+that they are manageable. That is also the reason, of course, 
+we gave $115 million in rail security grants last year, and we 
+will continue through the urban area security grants to have 
+more funds available.
+    Mr. Markey. Are you going to increase your request for 
+fiscal year 2005, for this coming fiscal year; are you going to 
+increase your request for additional security funds for transit 
+and railroads across the country?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, the budget is, of course, as 
+submitted. Obviously if there is a determination that more 
+funds are needed and appropriate, then that determination will 
+be given, but at this time there is not any plan that I am 
+aware of that will increase--make a budget amendment request.
+    Mr. Markey. So in the aftermath of the terrible tragedy in 
+Spain, your administration has yet to reevaluate whether or not 
+there should be an increase in funding for railway security 
+built into this year's budget?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. I think the fair characterization would be 
+that even prior to the tragedy in Spain, this administration 
+effectively evaluated what we are doing in rail security, got 
+ahead of the curve in the assessments, in the investment, and 
+submitted a budget that anticipated what needs to be done in 
+that area. As we get additional intelligence, we will continue 
+to evaluate that.
+    Mr. Markey. But as of this moment, you are convinced that 
+the work that you had already done has provided sufficient 
+funds or has sufficient funds budgeted that will deal with the 
+security issues that you have identified on transit in the 
+country?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. It is a very appropriate start. More needs 
+to be done. We are aggressively pursuing that, looking at the 
+right requirements and completing all of the assessments, and 
+then also continuing to invest in those security measures.
+    Mr. Markey. I would recommend honestly we double the 
+security; $115 million is not going to be enough.
+    Have radiation portals been installed in all ports of U.S. 
+entry? That would be my final question.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. The radiation portals have been installed 
+in 2004 in 408 locations. Radiation portal monitors in 528. 
+Number, specifically, the units that have been deployed, in 
+2005, we will deploy an additional 465 portal monitors and 206 
+radiation isotope identification devices, and that will 
+continue until there is 100 percent coverage.
+    Mr. Markey. So are you talking about the personal radiation 
+devices there, or are you talking about the actual portals 
+that--.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. The personal radiation devices will be 
+5,000 of those deployed this year, 1,000 next year. So what I 
+was speaking of will be the large portal monitors.
+    Mr. Markey. Mr.Chairman, I see the red light is on.
+    Mr. Cox. I appreciate it--.
+    Mr. Markey. Thank you, Mr.Secretary.
+    Mr. Cox.--your attention, and I recognize the gentlelady 
+from California.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Great. Thank you. God, it is so great when 
+other people don't show up. We get more lines of questions.
+    I wanted to talk about just the discomfort that is 
+happening among a lot of the employees in your Directorate. As 
+I mentioned earlier, you are probably in charge of about 
+110,000 of them, and I know that the border officers, for 
+example, are nervous about the new tasks that they are being 
+asked to do in one phase of the border initiative, because 
+former Customs inspectors, for example, are required to know 
+the details about immigration and agricultural laws, but they 
+only have minimal training in these additional areas.
+    So one of my questions was, you know, are you monitoring 
+the uncomfortableness of your employees, because, of course, we 
+want them to do a good job; and what are you hearing from them, 
+because many of us are hearing that they are just having a hard 
+time with this?
+    I also wanted to have you talk a little bit about the 
+latest plans for your new pay and personnel system. The 
+budget--for example, your budget asks for $100 million to 
+design a new personnel system that appears in its current form 
+to take away existing rights and guarantees afforded to these 
+employees, and in DHS it would eliminate across-the-board 
+annual raises and allow department managers to decide a 
+worker's annual raise based solely on performance. And while in 
+theory that sounds good, I am worried that maybe it gives 
+managers a little bit too much unchecked authority. So I want 
+to hear about that.
+    And in the light of actually these front-line personnel 
+putting their lives on the line in some cases every single day 
+that they go out and do their work, isn't $100 million a lot to 
+spend on a pay system when maybe we could be using it on 
+salaries for front-line personnel, considering we have so many 
+shortages going on?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, in reference to the overall morale, I 
+think it is very good. Any time there is uncertainty or change, 
+that causes some discomfort, and that is understandable.
+    We have worked very hard to get information quickly to the 
+employees. Secretary Ridge, myself and other leaders of the 
+Department have conducted numerous town meetings where we have 
+heard from them. They have raised issues, and so many of them 
+have to do with some of the disparity in pay for doing the same 
+work for the different 22 agencies that came together, and you 
+mentioned the $100 million. I will have to check to make sure 
+because that is really in a different directorate, but it was 
+my assumption that some of that would be for helping to 
+accomplish some of the pay disparity. So I think there is more 
+to it than simply what is going to be needed from a technical 
+standpoint.
+    One of the great motivators and morale boosters that the 
+inspectors had was the implementation of US-VISIT, because they 
+saw new technology, new capability because of their new 
+mission, and it has really been a boost for them in the work 
+that they do.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Can you tell me, speaking about US-VISIT, have 
+we been able to catch a terrorist yet with US-VISIT? I know we 
+have gotten a lot of criminals, but have we gotten the 
+terrorists? I mean, because it is an elaborate program, and as 
+you know, we have only done one small portion of what is going 
+to take a lot of funds and a lot of effort, and to some people 
+who have been talking to me about all this cyber situation, 
+that, you know, it is a pie in the sky. So have we caught a 
+terrorist yet from it?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. That is a very, very important question, 
+and let me address that. We have not, and that should not be 
+the measure of US-VISIT. US-VISIT was mandated by Congress 
+before 9/11, and the original design of it was not to catch 
+terrorists, but was to have an effective entry-exit system, to 
+give integrity to our immigration system.
+    We have the added security benefit because we can deter, 
+detect terrorists and criminals that might come in. So I think 
+that it has to be measured by a much different standard going 
+back to the integrity of the system as well as the deterrent 
+value and obviously the checks that we have whenever we bring 
+the people in.
+    Ms. Sanchez. And last let me ask you about a new provision 
+in the personnel regulations that would essentially allow an 
+employer to reassign a worker from one part of the country to 
+the other without any input from the worker.
+    Why are we taking away the employees' options for 
+reassignment? I mean, a lot of them have families, and they 
+prefer a particular area. Why is that so--why is there such a 
+great deviation in that from our regular personnel system that 
+we have in other departments?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Well, first of all, the personnel 
+regulations were put out for the purpose of getting comment, 
+and employee comment will be very important in the evaluation, 
+determination of which direction we go.
+    But in terms of reassignment, when you are dealing with 
+responding to higher threat levels, emergencies, national 
+security issues, we have to have the capability to effect 
+reassignments without having to do collective bargaining or 
+discussions prior to that.
+    Now--so that is the logic and concern in that arena, but we 
+obviously want to be sensitive to the employees' concerns. I 
+don't think there have been any instances where, you know, they 
+have been redeployed without the appropriate communication and 
+safeguards being in place.
+    Ms. Sanchez. Thank you, Mr.Chairman. I see that the red 
+light has come on.
+    Mr. Cox. Thank the gentlelady.
+    I want to thank Secretary Hutchinson for being here with 
+us. As you can see, we have a vote on the floor. You have 
+gotten some questions today about rail, naturally in light of 
+Madrid, and I know that in particular the cooperation that IP 
+has had with America's railroads and our public transit 
+authorities lies without your direct responsibility. It is 
+outside your directorate. But I want to give you an opportunity 
+to answer generally the question of whether there is going to 
+be an international lessons learned effort focused on Madrid 
+and whether the Department of Homeland Security will be 
+inferring from what we learn in Madrid ways to update our 
+protocols for rail, particularly passenger rail in America?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. Certainly it requires us to look very 
+closely at it. One, I have communicated with the Ambassador 
+from Spain offering our technical assistance and having a 
+transportation team that will go--security team that will go 
+over and look at this together. I think that there will be some 
+dialogues with all of the European countries on enhancing rail 
+security, what more we ought to do, cooperation, best 
+practices. And so there is going to be an increased 
+concentration on that.
+    From our standpoint I think we were, again, ahead of the 
+curve, have done a great deal, but the immediate reaction was 
+let's see what more we can do, because clearly that is 
+something that the terrorists have used very effectively in 
+Spain.
+    You know, we are working closely with our colleagues in 
+infrastructure protection and coordinating. We have some very 
+substantial efforts going on right now in terms of additional 
+steps that can be taken, evaluation, some more aggressive than 
+others, policy decisions that will have to be made in that 
+regard. But we expect that this will be a very robust effort, 
+combining our efforts in border transportation security with 
+what they are doing in IAIP.
+    Mr. Cox. I am very pleased to hear that, and we thank you 
+very much for the time and help that you provided to the 
+committee this morning.
+    The Chair notes that some Members may have additional 
+questions for our witness, which they may wish to submit in 
+writing. Without objection--I am sorry. Mr.Turner is here. I 
+want to recognize the Ranking Member. I didn't realize that you 
+had come here, and we have made heroic efforts to make sure you 
+had another opportunity. So the Ranking Member is recognized--
+Ranking Member of the full committee, the gentleman from Texas, 
+is recognized.
+    Mr. Turner. Thank you, Mr.Chairman. I will be brief, 
+because I think we have 10 minutes before the vote concludes.
+    Mr.Secretary, we have talked before about radiation 
+portals. You have received to date $206 million to purchase and 
+install these radiation portals at our ports of entry. You have 
+asked for $43 million for the next fiscal year. By my 
+calculation it will take another $247 million to install 
+radiation portals at all of our border crossings, rail hubs, 
+airports, et cetera. I am disappointed that that is not in the 
+President's request, and I just wanted to know if the Congress 
+could secure the support to get the additional $247 million, 
+would you be able to complete the installation of these portals 
+more rapidly, and particularly would you be able to do it prior 
+to the fourth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, which is, I 
+think, the date by which it will occur now based on the funding 
+that is being requested--the rate of funding that is being 
+requested?
+    Mr. Hutchinson. I will be happy to look very carefully at 
+the time line for completion of 100 percent deployment. I have 
+before me the deployment schedule for the radiation portal 
+monitors, the radiation isotope identification devices and the 
+other radiation detectors, and we have in 2004 a plan to deploy 
+528 radiation portal monitors. This is a very aggressive 
+schedule. In 2005, we have 165 that are scheduled to be 
+deployed as well as 206 isotope identification devices. So I am 
+happy to look at where that leaves us as far as the final 
+completion. I will report back to you, but that is what is 
+scheduled for 2004 and 2005 in deployment.
+    Mr. Turner. It just seems to me it would make common sense 
+to try to get that job done quicker, and if you would look at 
+that and see what it would take. Obviously I want to be sure 
+that if we push for the additional funding, that you can expend 
+it in a more rapid fashion.
+    Mr. Hutchinson. I think that is certainly a relevant 
+consideration as to what could be our procurement and 
+deployment schedule.
+    Mr. Turner. You know, there is no question that if we don't 
+do this faster, that by September of 2005, the fourth 
+anniversary of 9/11, we still won't have our southern borders 
+protected, nor all of our rail hubs, nor all of our airports, 
+nor all of our smaller ports of entry. And if we plan to do it, 
+if that is the goal, it seems that that would be a prudent and 
+wise investment.
+    Thank you. Thank you, Mr.Chairman.
+    Mr. Cox. I thank the gentleman.
+    And for the final time, I want to thank Secretary 
+Hutchinson. Your willingness to stay with us throughout the 
+morning and the afternoon is very much appreciated.
+    The record will remain open in this hearing for 10 days for 
+Members to submit open questions and to place their responses 
+in the record.
+    Mr. Cox. There being no further business, I want to thank 
+all the subcommittee members who were here during the hearing. 
+The hearing is now adjourned.
+    [Whereupon, at 12:10 p.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.]
+
+
+                            A P P E N D I X
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+
+
+         Questions Submitted for Under Secretary Asa Hutchinson
+
+          Questions Submitted by the Hon. Lincoln Diaz-Balart
+
+    Thank you for coming before our panel today. In your testimony you 
+list the elimination of potential weaknesses in security by suspending 
+the Transit Without Visa (TWOV) program as one of the Department's 
+successes.
+    While I believe the suspension of the TWOV program may have in fact 
+increased security, I still remain concerned about its counterpart, the 
+International to International (ITI) program.
+    I believe that your office has realized the significant economic 
+impact that the cancellation of this program had on South Florida as 
+demonstrated through the temporary relief provided through the 
+reopening of the satellite transit lounge at MIA. However, this 
+temporary solution has only partially mitigated the situation and has 
+not provided a sustainable solution.
+    During a recent CODEL to Miami we engaged DHS officials and staff 
+from Washington, D.C. and Miami on this issue. It was my understanding 
+that the Department would be releasing guidelines for a new version of 
+the ITI program this month. However, through our conversations in 
+Miami, it appeared that there was a lack of communication between DHS, 
+MIA, and the private sector companies directly involved in this 
+process.
+    Under Secretary Hutchinson, has there been additional communication 
+among all of the parties involved, including the private sector? If so, 
+do we still expect to see this new program rolled out this month, and 
+if we do, has it been modified from its original draft, which did not 
+reflect the concerns of the airport or the private industry experts?
+    Answer: To clarify this issue, prior to August 2003, there were two 
+transit programs available to travelers. The former Transit Without 
+Visa (TWOV) and International-to-International (ITI) programs allowed 
+an alien to transit through the United States without a nonimmigrant 
+visa while en route from one foreign country to a second foreign 
+country with one or two stops in the United States. Under the TWOV 
+program, a passenger seeking to transit through the United States was 
+admitted as a transit passenger by a DHS inspector and departed the 
+Federal Inspection Service (FIS) area. A TWOV passenger was permitted 
+to make one additional stop in the United States.Under the ITI program, 
+the ITI passenger was inspected by a DHS inspector but was not admitted 
+to the United States and did not leave the secure FIS area.
+    On August 7, 2003, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the 
+Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs published regulations 
+suspending the TWOV and ITI transit programs. The suspensions were 
+based on specific, credible intelligence that certain terrorist 
+organizations had identified these programs as a way to gain access to 
+aircraft without first obtaining a visa in order to: (1) take over the 
+aircraft to use as a weapon of mass destruction, or (2) to simply cause 
+damage to the aircraft; or to abscond during their layover in the 
+United States in order to gain illegal entry to the United States. In 
+August and September 2003, the DHS Border and Transportation Security 
+Directorate (BTS) conducted field visits and held meetings with airline 
+industry and the Departments of State (DOS) and Transportation (DOT) on 
+the possible reinstatement of a security-enhanced transit program. On 
+September 22, 2003, the public comment period concerning the suspension 
+of the TWOV and ITI programs expired.
+    DHS took the seventeen comments (one duplicate) received, including 
+those from the State of Florida and Miami International Airport, 
+regarding this proposed rule into consideration when formulating the 
+new Air Transit Program (ATP).
+    BTS and CBP have met with carriers and industry representatives to 
+solicit their opinions on the program. DHS and other agencies have 
+worked to formulate a proposal for the new ATP which is currently under 
+review within the Administration.
+
+              Questions Submitted by the Hon. Mark Souder
+
+    1. What is the strategic vision for the Directorate of Border and 
+Transportation Security? Do you believe you have adequate resources to 
+accomplish that vision in the near and long term? If not, what 
+additional resources do you require to meet your goals?
+    Answer: The strategic vision for the Directorate of Border and 
+Transportation Security is to be ``a unified and innovative enforcement 
+team, working as one to isolate terrorism Working in partnership with 
+our components and with the U.S. Coast Guard, we will:
+         Promote new security ideas and opportunities;
+         Balance security with civil liberties and free trade;
+         Develop a unified and engaged BTS team within the 
+        broad DHS effort;
+         Streamline operational and administrative procedures; 
+        and
+         Build coalitions and partnerships.
+    Our fiscal year 2005 budget requested 8 additional FTE and funding 
+to support the initial requirements of the staff of the Office of the 
+Under Secretary. As the organization of the Directorate and the 
+Department evolves, we will work within the Administration to request 
+additional resources when necessary.
+
+    2. I understand that in some locations where both the Bureau of 
+Customs and Border Protection and Bureau of Immigration and Customs 
+Enforcement operate, they maintain independent fleets of aircraft. 
+Considering the overlap along mission lines to interdict ``weapons of 
+mass destruction'', illicit narcotics and illegal migrants, has any 
+thought been given to ``co-locating'' these air assets? The obvious 
+benefit of such an arrangement would be: elimination of two separate 
+hangars and equipment plant; two separate maintenance and fuel 
+contracts; two separate aircrew training and certification programs, 
+and so forth. Do you have any philosophical disagreement with the 
+merits of ``colocating'' ICE and CBP air assets?
+    Answer: In fiscal year 2005, the air and marine assets within ICE 
+and CBP will be consolidated within CBP. Efforts are underway to manage 
+that consolidation to ensure the maximum operational and cost 
+efficiencies.
+
+    3. Late last year I met with CBP Commissioner Bonner to discuss the 
+status of a special unit of Native Americans called the Shadow Wolves. 
+In the legacy Customs Service they worked to detect narcotics smuggling 
+along the Arizona border within the Tohono O'Odham Indian Reservation. 
+Upon creation of the Department of Homeland Security they were 
+transferred from ICE to CBP. During my discussion with Commissioner 
+Bonner, he told me that the Shadow Wolves would continue their 
+traditional mission.
+     Can you update us on the current status of the Shadow 
+Wolves?
+    Answer: The unit remains intact and follows the Customs and Border 
+Protection (CBP) mission of preventing terrorists and terrorists' 
+weapons from entering the United States.
+     What steps have been taken to ensure that they Shadow 
+Wolves preserve their unique identity and the vital mission of 
+tracking/interdicting illicit narcotics?
+    Answer: There have been no changes to the CPO's mission of 
+tracking/interdicting illicit narcotics. Narcotic seizures by the CPO's 
+continue to be turned over to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement 
+(ICE).
+     During a Native American conference sponsored by Customs 
+and Border Protection last year, during one of the breakout sessions, 
+there was some discussion given to expanding the Shadow Wolf concept to 
+other Native American reservations with a border nexus. Has this 
+concept been expanded yet?
+    Answer: The Shadow Wolf/CPO concept is still being explored and 
+discussed amongst the tribes and Border Patrol Sectors. In the interim, 
+the Border Patrol and some of the tribes are continuing to work on 
+Integrated Border Enforcement Teams (IBET) and joint operations. 
+Cooperation continues with quarterly meetings to discuss issues, 
+concerns, and strategies.
+
+    4. I have visited the Air and Marine Operations enter (AMOC) in 
+Riverside, California. That facility receives radar inputs and 
+correlates intelligence and data on air traffic from virtually every 
+conceivable source, and is one of the most impressive facilities I have 
+visited in the government. AMOC is a ``critical'' center, unique in 
+that it is the only facility in the federal government with all these 
+capabilities under one roof.
+     Why aren't other BTS flight activities communicated and 
+de-conflicted through AMOC? I understand, for example, that CBP 
+aircraft frequently fly ``low and slow'' along the border, without 
+notifying the AMOC. As a result, the AMOC scrambles ICE aircraft to 
+intercept the suspicious aircraft, which results in needless 
+expenditure of taxpayer money.
+    Answer: During Liberty Shield operations, Office of Air and Marine 
+Operations (AMO) used AMOC to coordinate flying operations of 
+Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border 
+Protection (CBP). This effort was built upon AMOC's existing 
+coordination with the DoD and FAA. This effort was a step in the right 
+direction for coordination of DHS law enforcement aviation operations. 
+A more permanent concept of operations is being developed in concert 
+with the Department's Aviation Management Council, to minimize the 
+possibility of intercepting other agency's aircraft. AMOC indeed has 
+the capabilities to support and enhance other DHS/BTS air activities. 
+As the primary command and control facility for the AMO, AMOC truly has 
+the ``big picture,'' integrating multi-source radar inputs, the 
+capability to track ``Blue Forces,'' and streamline coordination with 
+multiple interagency partners in the course of their respective 
+missions. AMOC has access to FAA flight plans, aircraft registration 
+and air movement data, as well as specifically designed law enforcement 
+databases. Recent modernization funding will allow AMOC to create a 
+common operating picture that encompasses a wide portion of the Western 
+Hemisphere.
+    To enhance the tracking of ``friendly'' aircraft AMO is developing 
+a new SATRACK capability. Servers, with the ability to process all 
+SATRACK formats, are being incorporated into the AMOC's radar display. 
+Once installed and operational it will be as simple as inputting the 
+tracking code, specific for each aircraft, from any agency into the 
+server. This upgrade will allow the AMOC to follow and de-conflict CBP 
+aircraft that frequently fly ``low and slow'' along the border.
+     I understand that AMOC sends its radar picture of the 
+National Capital Region to a new inter-agency airspace security office 
+called the National Capital Region Coordination Center. I understand 
+the AMOC is the only source for this and there isn't a backup. Are you 
+reviewing this?
+    Answer: AMOC is currently a single point of transmission; the air 
+picture and data feeds in the NCRCC are slaved from the AMOC's system. 
+We are reviewing this, and are studying the addition of high-end 
+servers, communications suites and supporting telecommunications 
+infrastructure to support the Air and Marine Operations functions for 
+the National Capital Region, which could be developed as an independent 
+facility and serve as a limited back-up capability for the AMOC. 
+However, the NCRCC as a whole has four different agencies supplying/
+piping radar and communications data into the facility.
+     Are you considering any technological or personnel 
+upgrades for the facility to enhance its capabilities against narcotics 
+trafficking, alien smuggling and securing restricted airspace?
+    Answer: The AMOC has currently been funded to upgrade its servers. 
+This upgrade will increase its capacity to accept all the available 
+radar feeds nationwide, some 400 plus radars. Additionally, software 
+has been developed and tested to provide AMOC with radar data from all 
+20 FAA Air Route Traffic Control Centers (ARTCCs), to include the 
+correlated flight plans and air movement data from the 20 ARTCCs.
+    FAA Terminal Approach Radars will also be integrated into the AMOC. 
+Advanced communications suites have been procured to replace the 
+current aging and inadequate communications console. AMO is studying 
+the feasibility of a satellite based communication infrastructure that 
+will dramatically increase nationwide radio coverage and save the costs 
+of expanding and maintaining hundreds of ground based radios.
+    AMOC personnel have served as a primary operations entity at the 
+NCRCC since the facility opened in January 2003. Fifteen Full time 
+Equivalents (FTE) on AMOC's existing Table of Organization have been 
+permanently reassigned to address staffing the NCRCC. The backfill/
+permanent return of these FTE to their original locations will be 
+addressed within future resource allocation initiatives.
+    Now that AMO and AMOC have moved from ICE to CBP, the staffing 
+issues will be revisited in a broader context as part of the transition 
+process. We anticipate that the staffing decisions will be concluded by 
+the end of the transitioin process on September 30, 2005.
+
+    5. Within DHS, Mr. Hutchinson, you have more armed law enforcement 
+employees under your command than anyone else. Inherent in that 
+distinction are significant management, policy and oversight 
+responsibilities to promote accountability, competent weapons use and 
+maintaining a ``zero tolerance'' for excessive force incidents. 
+Terrorists and narcotics cartels have demonstrated their lethality all 
+over the world. DHS agents and officers deserve to be sufficiently 
+equipped and empowered to address this threat. It will not suffice to 
+be ``out-gunned'' during an encounter with terrorists or drug 
+traffickers, as the Los Angeles Police Department discovered during the 
+North Hollywood bank robbery.
+     What are your plans to standardize a system of centralized 
+inventory management for BTS weapons, to prevent the kind of 
+accountability issues recently experienced by FBI?
+    Answer: We have engaged in collaborative efforts within the 
+Department, the Federal Government, and industry to develop the best 
+practices and procedures in asset management. With the implementation 
+of eMerge2, the Department will standardize the accountability of all 
+assets, to include the weapons inventory. The Department is finalizing 
+the Management Directive for Personal Property Management that defines 
+the policy regarding the accountability and physical inventory 
+requirements for personal property, including weapons. The policy 
+includes the requirement for an annual physical inventory and 
+reconciliation of all firearms. Also, the Department is conducting a 
+pilot program to evaluate the accountability and effectiveness of using 
+radio frequency identification to track and monitor firearms.
+     How will your system of accountability mesh with the 
+remaining armed employees of DHS, such as those in the Secret Service?
+    Answer: The Department established a Personal Property Management 
+Council and consolidated various personal property systems, procedures 
+and policies over the past year. With the implementation of eMerge2, we 
+will migrate our asset records to one software solution to provide 
+total asset visibility that will enable us to effectively reduce the 
+cost of managing the Government's personal property while increasing 
+accountability. The procedures and systems put in place will be 
+deployed throughout the Department.
+    What are your plans for a new ``use of force'' policy? When 
+will this new policy be published?
+    Answer: The DHS use of force policy was signed and effective July 
+2004. It was developed by a committee which had representation from all 
+DHS law enforcement components.
+     Does your fiscal year 2005 funding include any initiatives 
+to ann your employees with a ``standard'' Department firearm?
+    Answer: No. There are no additional funds requested in the fiscal 
+year 2005 budget above that which is contained in each component's 
+base, to recapitalize a standard DHS firearm. The DHS Commodity Council 
+for Weapons and Ammunition is analyzing Department-wide requirements to 
+determine more efficient and effective strategies for the acquisition 
+of this commodity area. Their initial effort identified a strategy to 
+acquire known DHS requirements for a family of pistols under a 
+specification agreed to by many of the organizational elements in the 
+Department. On August 24, 2004 the Department awarded two contracts for 
+handguns that can be accessed by all DHS organizational entities. 
+Additional categories of weapons and ammunition are being analyzed by 
+the Commodity Council to determine the need for strategic sourcing.
+    6. I understand BTS Officers frequently pursue vehicles and vessels 
+loaded with contraband that refuse to stop, and perform airspace 
+security missions against small and slow aircraft. These high-risk 
+enforcement operations can easily escalate to a situation where lethal 
+force is required. What legislative assistance do you need to indemnify 
+your officers involved in this type of situation?
+    Answer: We must unquestionably prepare and support our law 
+enforcement personnel for the potential use of lethal force in their 
+day to day environment, as well as for the possible but unintended 
+results of their actions. The law enforcement officers, tasked by their 
+organization and the nation to prevent or mitigate to the best of their 
+ability a terrorist strike, will be faced with the options of allowing 
+the terrorist to strike where and when chosen with planned maximum 
+devastation, or applying the use of lethal force against the assailant. 
+These Officers, acting within the scope of employment and in compliance 
+with Departmental policies and procedures, should be protected from 
+unwarranted lawsuits and liability. To this end the Department is 
+exploring possible options, similar to other agencies, that would grant 
+immunity or provide indemnification in certain circumstances.
+    7. The fiscal year 2005 budget for CBP includes $10 million for 
+Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV). You announced the Arizona Border 
+Control (ABC) Initiative yesterday in Tucson. I understand your 
+directorate will test the Hermes UAV. I also understand your 
+directorate tested a Predator UAV in the Southwest last fall, which 
+culminated in several interdictions, seizures and arrests. Will the 
+requested funding be used for UAVs capable of fulfilling the multitude 
+of BTS missions?
+    Answer: The requested funding is specific to border security 
+operations for which CBP is the lead agency. The funding will provide 
+for further testing and evaluation of UAVs in general, and the needs of 
+BTS and other DHS components will be considered during this project.
+    What will be the concept of operation (CONOP) for this new 
+resource?
+    Answer: The pilot project we are conducting is designed to help us 
+develop a CONOP over the life of the program. The intent is to operate 
+in both interdiction and intelligence gathering missions to evaluate 
+VAV technology in such roles. Specific CONOPS will be developed based 
+on lessons learned during this test and evaluation.
+    At the conclusion of this latest test, will UAVs become a permanent 
+tool within BTS to combat illicit narcotics smuggling and migrant 
+activity?
+    Answer: Once the evaluation is completed, we will have a better 
+understanding of how UAVs may be integrated into our border security 
+operations on a long-term basis. The pilot program will determine the 
+best type of platforms and sensor packages to use, where they will be 
+most beneficial, and for what specific roles they are best suited.
+    8. In the establishment of DHS, it was recognized that counter-
+narcotics is an important and necessary mission for the Department. In 
+the Homeland Security Act, the Department was organized to include a 
+dedicated Counter-narcotics Officer on the Secretary's staff who is to 
+ensure adequate focus of homeland security resources to the counter-
+drug mission. This Counter-narcotics Officer is also designated as the 
+U.S. Interdiction Coordinator (USIC) and reports to the Director of the 
+Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) on the overall national 
+interdiction effort. As the Under Secretary of BTS, you oversee some of 
+the major agencies involved in the counternarcotics effort.
+     In your view, how is the set up of one individual with two 
+lines of authority working?
+    Answer: The counternarcotics officer (CNO) serves in multiple roles 
+as ONDCP Director of Intelligence, as United States Interdiction 
+Coordinator, and as DHS counternarcotics officer. Given the division of 
+CN responsibilities between BTS and other DHS entities, the DHS CNO 
+serves a useful and valuable role in coordinating CN matters between 
+BTS and those other non-BTS DHS agencies. The CNO also serves an 
+extremely valuable function in providing recommendations to the DHS 
+Secretary about development of departmental CN priorities, especially 
+as they impact BTS agency responsibilities. The addition of the USIC 
+position to the CNO has provided an opportunity for that office to 
+serve as a bridge to non-DHS agencies on CN that would otherwise not 
+exist; a bridge that has been extensively employed on behalf of DHS 
+during the start up of the Department.
+     What is your relationship with the Counter-narcotics 
+Officer?
+    Answer: I meet regularly with the CNO, and two of my staff are 
+located in his office These actions help ensure the closest 
+coordination possible on counternarcotics issues.
+     Do you feel DHS has the resources necessary to adequately 
+attack the current drug threat while being vigilant to other DHS 
+responsibilities?
+    Answer: The Administration and Congress have provided excellent 
+support to the BTS components in support of all threats to homeland 
+security. Many of the capabilities that provide border and 
+transportation security are used to support the counter-narcotics 
+mission. For example, the same resources used in the Container Security 
+Initiative (CSI) enhance the ability to prevent and detect importation 
+of illegal narcotics. Additional border patrol and CBP officers, as 
+well as ICE agents perform their work in a multifaceted fashion, 
+finding illegal substances and goods and looking for links between 
+narcotics-related crime and terrorism. The same sensor systems and 
+platforms that perform border security, like our AMO and Border Patrol 
+aircraft, also detect and interdict illegal narcotics. In support of 
+these continuing efforts, our fiscal year 2005 request included a 
+number of systems that are multi-dimensional and support both missions: 
+$28 million for increased AMO P-3 flight hours to interdict narcotics 
+in the source and transit zone as well as fly CAP over cities during 
+heightened alert periods, $64 million for Border Patrol surveillance 
+and sensor technology; $25 million for CSI; $20 million for targeting 
+systems enhancement which help identify shipments requiring inspection; 
+$15M for Customs-Trade Partnership Against Terrorism (C-TPAT) which 
+strengthen the supply chain; $10 million for development and testing of 
+UAVs; and $340 million for US-VISIT, which identifies travelers, some 
+of which have warrants for outstanding narcotics charges. All of these 
+initiatives received fiscal year 2005 appropriations at the level of 
+the request.
+
+Questions Submitted by the House Select Committee on Homeland Security, 
+                             Majority Staff
+
+Criminal Intelligence Collection and Analysis
+    1. How do BTS agencies analyze their collection of criminal and 
+other intelligence, as well as share it within BTS or with other DHS 
+and Federal agencies? What is the role of IA/IP? Do the BTS agencies 
+and IA/IP have interoperable communication and data systems?
+    Answer: The Directorate of Border and Transportation Security (BTS) 
+prepares a Daily Operations Report each day of the week. The BTS 
+distributes the reports to Federal, state, and local law enforcement. 
+The report encompasses significant operational events involving the 
+Border and Transportation Security Directorate (BTS). Items include 
+submissions from the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the 
+Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the Federal 
+Protective Service (FPS), and the Transportation Security 
+Administration (TSA). Submissions include noteworthy Homeland Security 
+items such as the arrest or removal of terrorist organization members, 
+financiers, and operatives. The report provides biographical 
+identifiers such as names, dates of birth, passport numbers, 
+nationality, associates, etc. State and local law enforcement agencies 
+have used this information to supplement their intelligence/homeland 
+security operations. The report also highlights events, efforts, and 
+trends concerning airport screening and organized criminal activities 
+such as narcotics and alien smuggling. A report typically is from five 
+to seven pages and includes a list of acronyms and definitions.
+    Information sharing is one of the critical mission areas that the 
+Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has set as a priority for better 
+preparing the homeland. The DHS Office of Information Analysis (IA), in 
+conjunction with other DHS entities, prepares warning products and 
+distributes them to federal, state, local, tribal, major city, and 
+private sector officials. These products, which include both Homeland 
+Security Information Bulletins and Threat Advisories, allow DHS 
+officials to communicate threats and suggested protective measures to 
+regions and/or sectors of concern, within each threat level. 
+Additionally, unclassified information is shared through a daily 
+Homeland Security Operations Morning Brief and the weekly joint DHS-FBI 
+Intelligence Bulletin. The Office of State and Local Government 
+Coordination also coordinates bi-weekly conference calls with all of 
+the Homeland Security Advisors in all the states and territories to 
+help relay important departmental information as well as respond to 
+queries from advisors. The Department has also paid for and established 
+secure communication channels to all of our state and territorial 
+governors and their state emergency operations centers. This investment 
+in communication equipment included secure VTC equipment along with 
+Stu/Ste telephones. DHS has also worked to ensure every governor has 
+been cleared to receive classified information and are working with the 
+Governors and their Homeland Security Advisors to provide security 
+clearances for five additional people who support the Governors' 
+Homeland Security mission. This provides DHS an avenue for 
+disseminating classified information directly to the location that 
+needs the information. Lastly, one of the primary ways in which DHS is 
+improving its communication with its constituents is through the 
+Homeland Security Information Network (HSIN) and specifically through 
+the Joint Regional Information Exchange System (JRIES). Using this 
+network, federal, state, and urban area homeland security advisors will 
+be able to communicate with each other and with DHS, as will federal, 
+state, and urban Emergency Operations Centers, and the National Guard 
+and the state adjutant generals. Once connected, user groups will have 
+access both to communication streams with each other and DHS, as well 
+as to DHS warning products distributed by IA.
+    All DHS entities (along with all IC members) share information with 
+IAIP, which analyzes and distributes the information to State, 
+territorial, tribal, local and private sector entities. IAIP receives 
+this information not only through the described reports, but also 
+through BTS representation in IA and the HSOC. The IAIP performs 
+analysis and shares information to support its own mission and to 
+provide information that meets the needs of other intelligence 
+consumers.
+
+US-VISIT
+    2. DHS submitted the fiscal year 2004 expenditure plan for US-VISIT 
+to Appropriations several weeks ago. The fiscal year 2005 request is 
+$340 million, which is a $12 million increase. How will this funding be 
+allocated in order to implement US VISIT at the 50 largest land border 
+ports of entry?
+    Answer: The fiscal year 2004 Expenditure Plan included resources 
+for implementing US-VISIT functionality in secondary inspection at the 
+50 largest land border ports of entry to meet the statutory requirement 
+of December 31, 2004. The Expenditure Plan for fiscal year 2005 
+includes funding to pilot US-VISIT functionality in entry and exit 
+lanes for selected ports of entry.
+
+    3. What is the ``end vision'' for the US-VISIT system? How and when 
+does DHS anticipate reaching that objective?
+    Answer: US-VISIT has begun the effort to create a strategic plan 
+that will establish an overall vision for immigration and border 
+management and identify the mechanisms necessary, including technology, 
+facilities, and data necessary to achieve the vision. Fundamental to 
+this vision is ensuring that appropriate information is available to 
+decision makers (e.g. consular officers, border officers, 
+investigators, immigration adjudicators, intelligence entities) in real 
+time. However, to introduce immediate security improvements, we have 
+focused on an incrementally developing and deploying capabilities. US-
+VISIT faced some significant challenges, especially in the early days, 
+but has overcome those challenges by phasing-in improvements over the 
+past two years.
+    The end vision of the US-VISIT Program is to deploy end-to-end 
+management of integrated processes and data on foreign nationals 
+traveling to the United States covering their interactions with U.S. 
+officials before they enter, when they enter, while they are in the 
+U.S., and when they exit. This comprehensive view of border management 
+leads to the creation of a ``virtual border'' and will set the course 
+for improved business processes across the Government stakeholder 
+community for management of information on foreign visitors.
+          US-VISIT Program responsibilities begin when a foreign 
+        national petitions for entrance, applies for a visa at a 
+        consular office, or applies for enrollment in an expedited/
+        trusted traveler program. The US-VISIT Program will support 
+        pre-entry processes by using collected biographic, biometric, 
+        and previous travel and visa information to authenticate unique 
+        identity, match against watch lists, and support the issuance 
+        of travel documents.
+
+          During the inspection process, machine-readable, tamper-
+        resistant travel documents will be read, biometrics collected, 
+        and information regarding a foreign national's U.S. travel and 
+        immigration will be available for decision-making purposes. 
+        Foreign national visitors who appear on watch lists, whose 
+        identities cannot be verified, or who attempt entry using 
+        fraudulent documents will be efficiently sent to secondary 
+        inspection for further processing.
+    The US-VISIT program will keep track of changes in foreign national 
+visitor status as well as identify visitors who have overstayed their 
+visas. This information will be reported to agencies, such as U.S. 
+Immigration and Customs Enforcement, for appropriate action.
+    As foreign national visitors leave the U.S., their exit will be 
+recorded. Entry and exit records will be matched and visa compliance 
+will be determined and maintained along with travel history.
+    The data acquired by the US-VISIT Program should prove increasingly 
+useful as it accumulates. Initially, this data will be used to develop 
+resource and staffing projections for Ports of Entry and regional 
+facilities. As more entry and exit information becomes available, the 
+US-VISIT Program will enable traffic, travel, and traveler analysis. 
+Travel and traveler analysis will contribute to foreign national risk 
+assessment and intelligence.
+    When the vision is fully realized the US-VISIT Program will 
+contribute to the border management goals and will provide our citizens 
+and visitors with a more expeditious and secure border-crossing 
+process.
+    The US-VISIT end vision will be achieved incrementally over the 
+next several years. The priorities in fiscal year 2003-2005 are to meet 
+the legislative mandates and demonstrate initial progress toward 
+achievement of performance goals for national security, facilitation of 
+trade and travel, and supporting immigration system improvements. In 
+fiscal year 2006, US-VISIT will complete satisfaction of its 
+legislative mandates. At this point, US-VISIT will have delivered an 
+interim capability that addresses the first set of requirements levied 
+on the program. However, the most crucial and challenging need of the 
+program-that of transforming border management through the delivery of 
+an endto-end, fully integrated set of processes and systems supporting 
+interoperability across the stakeholder community-will only be in its 
+early stages.
+    Transforming border management will require work on several fronts. 
+First, it means reengineering the processes to fully address creation 
+of the virtual border, development of integrated inspection processes 
+that leverage access to integrated traveler data, and enhancement of 
+analytical capabilities to support risk analysis and decision-making.
+    Second, it means tackling the challenging task of consolidating, 
+replacing, and retiring aging legacy systems. Modernizing the systems 
+supporting US-VISIT will require coordination of and collaboration on 
+system decisions across the border management community including DoS, 
+CBP, ICE, USCIS, DOJ, DOT, and Commerce. The need to improve system 
+performance, interoperability, and data sharing along with reducing O&M 
+costs will influence those decisions. Finally, it means ensuring that 
+US-VISIT monitor the international environment and the potential 
+threats and implement capabilities to address gaps in coverage of 
+travelers and entry points; identify opportunities to integrate 
+additional information sources, systems, and processes together to 
+extend the web for border management; and apply new technology where it 
+can help address mission goals.
+    US-VISIT will continue to work with its Federal stakeholders 
+through its Advisory Board to guide the course set for the Program 
+using the Board to identify issues that will require coordination and 
+policies that need to be defined.
+
+    4. In view of the prospect that few, if any, of the 27 Visa Waiver 
+Program countries can comply with the October 26, 2004, deadline to 
+begin issuing biometric passports, what steps does BTS expect to take?
+    Answer: All visa waiver program (VWP) countries had to certify by 
+October 26, 2004 that they have a program to issue biometrically 
+enhanced passports in order to continue in the VWP. Most, if not all, 
+of the VWP countries have informed the U.S. that they will not be able 
+to issue International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) compliant 
+passports by October 26, 2005 due to technical and other factors. The 
+Administration requested a two-year extension in order to allow the 
+countries time to meet the requirement. A one-year extension was 
+granted. As part of the decision to request the extension deadline, and 
+in order to provide enhanced security, as of September 30, 2004, all 
+VWP travelers will be enrolled in thru US-VISIT.
+
+    5. What additional security measures are anticipated for persons 
+holding Border Crossing Cards as US-VISIT comes into effect on the 
+southern border?
+    Answer: In response to congressional mandate, US-VISIT will take an 
+incremental approach to implementing enhanced security measures at land 
+border Ports of Entry (POEs). Currently, Border Crossing Card holders 
+who request a stay longer than 30 days (extended from 72 hours this 
+summer) or anticipate traveling beyond the 25 mile limit (75 miles in 
+Arizona) are required to provide biographic information regarding their 
+stay using a paper process (Form 1-94). By December 31, 2004, US-VISIT 
+will be deployed in the Secondary Inspection area of the 50 busiest 
+land POEs, including 34 on the southern border. . With the deployment 
+of US-VISIT travelers processed through secondary inspection will have 
+an additional requirement to provide biometric information (digital 
+photograph and fingerprints unless exempt by policy), which will 
+provide the following additional security benefits:
+
+        1. Improved traveler identification at Secondary Inspection 
+        locations through use of biometrics.
+        2. A traveler's identity to be can be established and verified 
+        using biometrics.
+        3. Improved document validation at Secondary Inspection 
+        locations through expanded access to Department of State visa 
+        data.
+        4. Improved threat analysis and determination of admissibility 
+        through enhanced access to biometric Watch Lists at Secondary 
+        Inspection locations.
+        5. The ability to present additional information to the CBP 
+        officer in Secondary, which will allow the officer to view more 
+        information in the same amount of time resulting in a more 
+        informed decision regarding admissibility.
+        6. I-94 Data will be made available to all Ports of Entry and 
+        authorized users within hours rather than the current process 
+        which can take weeks.
+    US-VISIT intends to expand this capability to all land POEs by 
+December 31, 2005.
+
+Customs and Border Protection
+Cargo Security
+    6. The fiscal year 2005 budget requests $50 million for radiation 
+detection monitors. Is this funding for ``next generation'' or will it 
+be used to purchase and deploy machines at remaining land and sea ports 
+of entry?
+    Answer: The Department of Homeland Security anticipates that the 
+$50 million request in the President's fiscal year 2005 budget request 
+for radiation detection equipment will be utilized for next-generation 
+technology deployment. DHS's Science and Technology Directorate is 
+working closely with Customs and Border Protection, Office of Field 
+Operations, to ensure that CBP has the best available radiation 
+detection technology.
+    7. The Customs-Trade Partnership Against Terrorism (C-TPAT) helps 
+to ensure security of cargo all along the supply chain. Under this 
+program, companies sign an agreement with CBP to conduct a 
+comprehensive self-assessment of their supply chain security and to 
+improve that security using C-TPAT security guidelines. Companies that 
+meet security standards receive expedited processing through ports of 
+entry, again enabling CBP to focus on higher risk shipments. As of 
+August 2003, over 3900 companies are participating in C-TPAT to improve 
+the security of their supply chains. Based on current rates of 
+enrollment, this number is expected to reach 5000 companies enrolled by 
+the end of fiscal year 2004. Were there standards and best practices 
+developed for assessment and validation purposes of C-TPAT companies? 
+If so, who developed them and how?
+    Answer: There are specific security recommendations for each sector 
+of C-TPAT membership. These recommendations were developed by CBP, with 
+substantial input from the trade community, and based upon our 20 years 
+of anti-smuggling / industry partnership expenence.
+    What plans does BTS have order to ensure the continued integrity of 
+the companies screened and subject to less scrutiny at our ports of 
+entry?
+    Answer: C-TPAT Validations enable CBP to review the security 
+measures and procedures of the member's supply chain for effectiveness, 
+efficiency and for accuracy. Each Validation is customized based on the 
+member's business model and according to the security profile approved 
+by CBP.
+     Will DHS consider such options as random screening of ALL 
+cargo containers, including C-TPAT company's containers?
+    Answer: C-TPAT members are not exempt from CBP examinations.
+    8. The fiscal year 2004 budget request for CTPAT was 17.9 million 
+with 79 Full Time Employees (FTEs). The fiscal year 2005 request 
+represents a 111 increase in funding and 138 additional personnel. How 
+will the additional funding and staff be allocated?
+    Answer: The fiscal year 2004 appropriated amount for C-TPAT was 
+$14.1 million with 79 fulltime equivalents (FTEs), or 157 new 
+positions. The fiscal year 2005 request of $15.215 million represents 
+an increase in funding to cover an additional 60 FTEs, or 120 new 
+positions. The requested funding will be used for expenses associated 
+with the new positions, validations, equipment, training and outreach.
+     Is any funding directed toward engaging importers to join 
+the program?
+    Answer: An appropriate amount of funding will be utilized to engage 
+all sectors of CTPAT membership, including importers, for outreach and 
+recruiting purposes.
+     How much will go into validating applicants?
+    Answer: The primary responsibility of our Supply Chain Specialists 
+is to conduct validations. For this reason, the majority of our travel 
+money will be used for validating certified members.
+     What is the timeline for completing those validations?
+    Answer: Over 700 validations have been initiated with over 240 
+completed. Our goal for the current calendar year is to have completed 
+a total of 400 validations.
+
+    9. The fiscal year 2005 budget provides funding to hire 100 
+additional supply chain specialists to validate C-TPAT companies. 
+Currently there are 23 employees doing this work. There are roughly 
+5,000 companies in the program with 141 validations complete and over 
+700 in the process. What is the goal for completing the validation of 
+the 5,000 companies once additional staff is hired? Will the 
+approximately 120 FTEs provide some growth capacity for the program? At 
+the same time that we are trying to complete the validations, we are 
+trying to expand participation.
+    Answer: The validation process enables U.S. Customs and Border 
+Protection (CBP) and the C-TPAT participant to jointly review the 
+participant's security procedures to ensure that security measures are 
+being effectively executed. The validation process also promotes an 
+exchange of information on security issues by both CBP and the company, 
+and the sharing of ``best practices'', with the ultimate goal of 
+strengthening the partnership and the security of the international 
+supply chain.
+    Over 700 validations have been initiated with over 240 completed. 
+Our goal for the current calendar year is to have completed a total of 
+400 validations.
+    The 120 new positions requested in fiscal year 2005 will also 
+enable growth capacity for CTPAT and will allow CBP to meet current 
+mandates, including conducting validations, performing trade outreach 
+and antiterrorism training. In addition, the 120 positions will allow 
+C-TPAT to continue to enable trade by improving supply chain security 
+and increasing supply chain performance. This optimizes the internal 
+and external management of assets and functions while at the same time 
+enhancing security in order to prevent the introduction of implements 
+of terrorism into legitimate trade entering the U.S.
+
+    10. Will CBP preserve its Customs Management Centers with their 
+existing organization and command structure?
+    Answer: The organizational structure was reviewed in fiscal year 
+2004. CBP, within the Office of Field Operations, will maintain 20 
+Directors of Field Operations--DFO's (formerly called Customs 
+Management Center Directors) in their field organizational structure 
+providing operational oversight to the ports of entry under their 
+jurisdiction. The CBP Field Offices will remain in the same 20 cities 
+where the Customs Management Centers were located.
+
+Port Security
+    11. How are the respective DHS functions at seaports (i.e. Coast 
+Guard, ICE, CBP and TSA) coordinated? What steps is the Department 
+considering to integrate these functions?
+    Answer: The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is implementing 
+an integrated and collaborative process among Federal, state, local and 
+private partners to gain the greatest intelligence about the people, 
+cargo and vessels operating in the maritime domain and most effectively 
+protect our ports and maritime infrastructure.
+    The principal coordination mechanism at the seaport level is the 
+Area Maritime Security Committee (AMSC), authorized by the Maritime 
+Transportation Security Act (MTSA). The Coast Guard Captain of the Port 
+(COTP) directs the AMSC as the Federal Maritime Security Coordinator 
+(FMSC). Local DHS and other federal agency representatives, including 
+Transportation Security Administration (TSA), Customs and Border 
+Protection (CBP), and Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI), are on 
+each committee. Forty-three AMSCs have been chartered across the 
+country with emphasis on advance security measures and plans to deter 
+threats and provide a strong framework for response and recovery in the 
+event of attack. Under the AMSCs, Federal, state, local and private 
+authorities work together as a team to maintain and enhance security. 
+This type of teamwork enables the entire maritime community to rapidly 
+respond to both general and specific threats. Increased communication, 
+teamwork and coordination is an example of the public and private 
+sectors working together to secure our homeland. As a result, the 
+leadership team, the responders, and the organizations are in place and 
+working together to ensure security in our ports.
+    In the intelligence arena, the COASTWATCH program is the only 
+national level DHS node systematically fusing intelligence and law 
+enforcement data to identify and warn of potential security and 
+criminal threats in the commercial maritime realm far in advance of 
+their arrival.COASTWATCH's screening is focused on identifying specific 
+ships, people or cargo that DHS may wish to investigate for security or 
+significant criminal concerns prior to even nearing the port. 
+COASTWATCH results and warnings are shared widely with Coast Guard 
+operational commanders, the FBI, the Department of Defense (DoD), other 
+intelligence agencies, and our DHS sister agencies, including CBP, TSA, 
+and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
+    On a daily basis, the Coast Guard, CBP and ICE work together to 
+ensure a coordinated effort to screen and evaluate safety and security 
+risk posed by vessels intending to enter a U.S. port. The Coast Guard 
+and CBP have collaborated on a joint effort to enhance the Coast 
+Guard's electronic notice of Arrival (e-NOA) system in order to meet 
+both the CG and CBP's mandatory submission requirements for vessel, 
+crew, passenger, and certain cargo information. Once completed, the e-
+NOA will allow vessels to electronically submit the required CG / CBP 
+NOA information to one consolidated location. The e-NOA will reduce the 
+burden on industry by offering an easy-to-use, consolidated submission 
+method that will meet both the CG and CBP requirements thereby removing 
+duplicate reporting requirements. Furthermore, development of this 
+joint system will significantly enhance the processing and sharing of 
+information between DHS agencies, increase identification of security 
+and safety risk posed by vessels entering a U.S. port and increase our 
+overall MDA. The Coast Guard and CBP are in the field testing phase of 
+this process and anticipate the system should be available for full use 
+by the maritime industry in the fall of 2004.
+    The Coast Guard is enhancing its command centers in 40 locations 
+and is offering other DHS agencies and port partners the opportunity to 
+leverage our investment by either collocating their command and control 
+elements in our command center, or by participating on an ``as 
+necessary'' basis. We are establishing communications interoperability 
+with other agencies and, as our level of Maritime Domain Awareness 
+increases through the implementation of better sensors and intelligence 
+systems, the Coast Guard will be sharing portions of their Common 
+Operational Picture with our local, state and federal partners.
+    With our federal government's Awareness, Prevention, Protection, 
+Response and Recovery capabilities now under the roof of a single 
+department, the level of communication and cooperation among the sister 
+agencies of Coast Guard, TSA, ICE and CBP is stronger than ever. CBP, 
+TSA and CG are working together to support and align efforts to 
+implement MTSA through interagency working groups addressing cargo 
+security standards, port security assessments, international port 
+security and the development of the National Maritime Security Plan.
+
+Border Patrol
+    12. How does CBP plan to incorporate Unmanned Aerial Vehicles 
+(UAVs) into border surveillance programs? How will these be coordinated 
+with aerial surveillance programs of the ICE Air and Marine Division)? 
+How will surveillance data be shared among CBP, ICE and other agencies?
+    Answer: CBP is working through the DHS UAV Executive Steering Group 
+and UAV Working Group to ensure maximum interoperability and 
+commonality is achieved across all of DHS. The DHS VAV Executive 
+Steering Group provides oversight and direction to the DHS UAV Working 
+Group. The members of the UAV Working Group include Coast Guard, 
+Science and Technology, and Border and Transportation Security (CBP, 
+ICE and TSA). CBP, within the working group, is currently participating 
+in an analysis of alternatives (AoA) for aerial surveillance needs 
+within DHS. Once this report is complete the group will begin a process 
+to establish a DHS-wide concept of operations (CONOP). At the 
+conclusion of the AoA, BTS will determine the need for UAVs as a 
+permanent asset for BTS in a CONOP. It is likely that UAVs will support 
+other current and emerging sensing technologies to monitor the U.S. 
+borders between ports of entry. The CONOPS for UAVs will identify 
+unique needs and requirements stemming from each components missions 
+and ensure that redundancy and overlaps are minimal. It will further 
+ensure that systems procured and deployed on behalf of the DHS are 
+interoperable, and that efficiencies are sought. Any data or 
+information of interest to the security of the United States that is 
+developed during the UAV test programs will be shared via existing 
+intelligence and investigative mechanisms. The recent movement of AMO 
+from ICE to CBP will enhance the development of the use of UAV's for 
+border security programs.
+
+    13. How will CBP and ICE coordinate expedited removal of illegal 
+aliens detained at the southern border who are not Mexican? Has BTS 
+adopted new removal procedures to support its Arizona Border Control 
+Initiative Are their comparable procedures in place for non-Canadians 
+detained at the northern border?
+    Answer: On August 11, 2004, DHS published a Notice in the Federal 
+Register enhancing its ability to apply expedited removal (ER) between 
+the ports of entry on the northern and southern borders of the United 
+States. The enhanced ER authority is a border control measure, and for 
+that reason, it will be applied only to those aliens who have been in 
+the United States for less than 14 days and are apprehended within 100 
+miles of the border. The enhanced ER is primarily directed at ``third 
+country nationals'' who are not citizens of Mexico or Canada. ER will 
+not be immediately extended to all land borders. It will first be 
+extended between the ports of entry in the Laredo and Tucson border 
+sectors and may be implemented in other border locations as needed. CBP 
+and ICE are working together to ensure those aliens placed in ER are 
+removed quickly. As for Canada, the United States and Canada have a 
+longstanding repatriation agreement that covers the repatriation of 
+third country nationals who have crossed the United States/Canadian 
+border. The United States and Canada have also entered into a ``safe 
+third'' agreement that requires (with significant exceptions) asylum-
+seekers who have crossed the border to return to Canada and pursue 
+their asylum claim there. The ``safe third'' agreement was entered in 
+December 2002; a notice of proposed rule-making was issued on March 8, 
+2004, and the agreement will be implemented in the future.
+
+    14. How is BTS integrating and coordinated CBP, ICE and related 
+operations for the Arizona Border Control Initiative?
+    Answer: Border Patrol Tucson Sector Chief (David Aguilar) was 
+originally designated as the Border and Transportation Security (BTS) 
+Integrator for the execution of the ABC Initiative. Upon his promotion 
+to Chief, Border Patrol, the newly appointed Tucson Sector Chief, 
+Michael Nicley has taken over the role of Integrator. The Deputy is Mr. 
+Phillip Crawford of ICE. The Integrator and Deputy Integrator have a 
+combined planning staff in Tucson, Arizona. The Integrator provides the 
+multiple federal, state, local and Tribal agencies as well as the 
+public with a single point of contact for issues related to the 
+initiative. The Integrator maintains frequent direct communication with 
+the BTS Operations Staff for the purpose of rapidly sharing information 
+between Headquarters and the multiple agencies on scene. These 
+communications facilitate coordination on cross-cutting issues and 
+assist BTS in maintaining situational awareness of the progress of the 
+operation.
+
+Transportation Security Administration
+Air Security
+    15. What planning activities are in place to study airport demand 
+characteristics for the future and allocate screener staffing and 
+resources accordingly for fiscal year 2005 and beyond?
+    Answer: TSA is in the process of conducting a needs assessment to 
+determine the optimal number of screeners at each airport. To ensure 
+the project's success, TSA has partnered with the aviation industry to 
+form the U.S. Commercial Aviation Partnership, which is studying trends 
+in aviation and providing better forecasting to TSA regarding changes 
+that are expected in traffic patterns and airport demand. The needs 
+assessment effort will also draw on TSA's operational experience. TSA 
+believes that both precise forecasting and an operational record are 
+critical enablers of an accurate needs assessment to ensure that 
+resources are allocated in the most optimal manner in fiscal year 2005 
+and beyond.
+    Additionally, the Science & Technology Directorate (S&T) has been 
+tasked by Secretary Ridge to perform a Systems Engineering study of 
+Civil Aviation Security. Under Phase I of that study, staffing levels 
+have been obtained for representative alternative configurations for 
+checked baggage, checkpoint, and air cargo screening. Under Phase II of 
+that study, to be completed over the next several months, system-wide 
+staffing estimates will be obtained for these alternatives. However, it 
+is not intended that the S&T study will establish optimal staffing 
+levels on an airport-by-airport basis.
+
+    16. How will information technology tools like threat image 
+projection (TIP) be used to improve staffing allocations, training, and 
+so on at screener checkpoints? Have any justification studies been done 
+to show the long term payoffs derived from the up front costs of 
+implementing TIP and any other IT initiatives?
+    Answer: Threat Image Projection (TIP) is a valuable training and 
+performance monitoring tool but is not used to determine airport-by-
+airport staffing allocations. The expanded 2400-image TIP library is 
+used as a key performance measurement of screener effectiveness and to 
+identify specific strengths and weaknesses in threat object recognition 
+and identification. TIP performance information is used locally by the 
+Federal Security Director to tailor weekly recurrent training for 
+screeners based on the areas that are identified for improvement. 
+National level trend data based on the new expanded TIP library is 
+being compiled and analyzed, and national TIP performance standards 
+will be issued once data integrity is assured. Analysis of TIP data is 
+showing a nationwide improvement in identification of threats of 
+approximately 2 percent per month. The Transportation Security Lab is 
+developing the functional requirements for the next generation of TIP 
+capable x-rays to include adaptive learning technology that reacts to 
+the strengths and weaknesses of the individual screener in selecting 
+the type of threat objects presented by increasing the difficulty as 
+the screeners' performance improves.
+    TSA believes that TIP is a critical element of its overall plan to 
+continuously improve screener performance, but has not yet conducted a 
+long-term payoff analysis quantifying its benefits. Federal Security 
+Directors have tools available to them to improve the management and 
+scheduling of screeners. Tools such as Kronos for time & attendance and 
+Sabre for screener scheduling provide real-time information which 
+enables the FSD at each airport to forecast periods of peak demand for 
+screening. Additionally, TSA uses more split shifts and part-time 
+screeners to maximize the operational flexibility available to FSDs 
+when scheduling screeners to satisfy varying levels of demand. These 
+applications are important tools that assist TSA in creating additional 
+capacity and greater efficiencies in the scheduling of screeners.
+
+    17. How does the funding for canine teams and the number of canine 
+teams for air cargo operations compare to the numbers of canine teams 
+and funding for operations inside the airport terminal? Has the pilot 
+program to study canine inspections of U.S. mail been continued/
+expanded, and if so does this fall under the air cargo canine 
+operations or airport terminal canine operations?
+    Answer: TSA is currently authorized to deploy 341 explosives 
+detection canine teams at the Nation's airports. These teams are 
+trained, employed and their performance evaluated in airport terminals, 
+cargo operations, vehicles/parking lots along with narrow and wide body 
+aircraft. Based on each airports unique security requirements, the 
+teams are employed in both general airport and cargo operations areas 
+as needed. The total authorized number of canine teams nationwide is 
+determined by each individual airport's canine team's work load and 
+mission requirements. As an example, Miami International Airport would 
+have a larger canine team work load than Boise International Airport. 
+The TSA Explosives Detection Canine Team Program is a cooperative 
+partnership with participating airports and airport law enforcement 
+agencies. Currently, TSA provides partial reimbursement at $40,000 per 
+canine explosives team to support explosives detection operations at 
+each participating airport for costs associated with the teams, such as 
+salaries, canine food and veterinary care. Under our current 
+reimbursement guidelines, we have allocated a percentage of this figure 
+from cargo funds and a percentage from aviation funds. These 
+reimbursement percentages are based on the percentage of time canine 
+teams are deployed for air cargo and airport terminal operations. As 
+new teams are authorized, funded, and dedicated to cargo screening 
+operations, these percentages may change.
+    In early 2002, TSA, the United States Postal Service (USPS), and 
+the aviation industry, agreed that additional security screening 
+measures needed to be identified and developed before resuming the 
+transport of mail on passenger aircraft. In June 2002, TSA's National 
+Explosives Detection Canine Team Program conducted Operational Test & 
+Evaluation (OT&E) pilot testing at six (6) major airports with the 
+assistance from the USPS and airline industry to determine and 
+demonstrate the canine teams' ability to detect actual explosive 
+targets within packages that simulated Priority Mail products that were 
+independently introduced into actual mail. An additional purpose of the 
+pilot testing was to compare the throughput capabilities of both X-Ray 
+and canine resources under operational conditions. The results were 
+successful. Consequently, in November 2002, TSA established canine 
+screening operations for priority mail, in excess of 16 ounces, through 
+partnership agreements with USPS and the airline industry at 10 
+airports within the 48 contiguous states and at San Juan, PR and 
+Honolulu, HI. By the end of fiscal year 2004 over 23,000,000 packages 
+will have been successfully screened by TSA-certified explosives 
+detection canine teams. The pilot program to study canine inspections 
+of U.S. mail falls under the air cargo operations.
+    TSA is currently conducting additional Canine Cargo Pilot OT&E 
+testing in two phases:
+         Phase I, tested various explosive targets/distracters 
+        that were introduced into multiple cargo configurations at six 
+        major airports. All testing was conducted under actual cargo 
+        operations and various weather conditions. The OT&E is complete 
+        and the preliminary results are promising. The final report is 
+        expected in the coming weeks.
+         Phase II, OT&E started in June 2004 and was completed 
+        on schedule in August 2004. The tests were conducted at six 
+        major airports where expanded explosive detection investigation 
+        took place using multiple cargo airline containers, airline 
+        ground support equipment and USPS rolling stock equipment 
+        configurations under actual cargo/mail operations and 
+        environments. Testing evaluated TSA-certified canine teams' 
+        ability to screen larger volumes of mail placed inside USPS 
+        ``rolling stock'' equipment containers, which hold larger 
+        volumes of bags/boxes. The final test results will be analyzed 
+        and recommendations will be proposed for both cargo and mail, 
+        in excess of 16 ounces, screening operations at other major 
+        airports using TSA-certified explosives detection canine teams 
+        along with other system technologies for mail and cargo 
+        transported on passenger aircraft.
+
+Railway Security
+    18. How are the responsibilities related to rail and transit 
+security divided between the TSA and the FTA? Are there mechanisms in 
+place to eliminate duplication of efforts, or do some of these 
+responsibilities need to be further clarified by Congress?
+    Answer: DHS, DOT and component agencies including TSA, FTA, FRA and 
+RSPA coordinated very closely on initiatives relating to rail and 
+transit security, including the issuance of educational materials and 
+security directives establishing a new baseline of security for transit 
+and passenger rail operators after attacks on transit systems in Moscow 
+and Madrid earlier this year and during both planning for and operation 
+of short-term protective initiatives undertaken for various national 
+special security events (NSSEs) this summer, including the two national 
+conventions, and the period of time leading up to the elections. This 
+coordination involved the identification and allocation of resources, 
+assets and responsibilities. In addition, DHS and DOT have collaborated 
+very closely on initiatives designed to improve the security posture of 
+rail operators and shippers that transport Toxic by Inhalation (TIH) 
+chemicals, and the major population centers through and near which such 
+chemicals are shipped. DHS and DOT are also actively engaged in 
+discussions regarding both a transit-specific Memorandum of 
+Understanding to articulate DHS component (TSA, IAIP) and DOT modal 
+administration (FTA) responsibilities for securing public 
+transportation systems--responsibilities that are shared with the local 
+system owners and operators, and an overarching MOU which will set 
+forth very clearly how the two departments and the component agencies 
+will communicate and cooperate with regard to specific initiatives 
+designed to strengthen security in the transportation sector.
+    In general, on December 17, 2003, the President issued Homeland 
+Security Presidential Directive-7 (HSPD-7), which established that the 
+Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Transportation 
+will ``collaborate on all matters relating to transportation security 
+and transportation infrastructure protection.'' HSPD-7 ``establishes a 
+national policy for Federal departments and agencies to identify and 
+prioritize United States critical infrastructure and key resources and 
+to protect them from terrorist attack.'' Under HSPD-7, the Secretary of 
+the Department of Homeland Security has the lead role in coordinating 
+protection activities for ``transportation systems, including mass 
+transit, aviation, maritime, ground/surface, and rail and pipeline 
+systems,'' while DOT is responsible for promoting the safety, 
+efficiency, effectiveness, and economic well-being of the nation's 
+transportation systems. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is 
+responsible under HSPD-7 for developing a National Critical 
+Infrastructure Protection Plan. TSA has been assigned primary 
+responsibility for coordinating the development of the Transportation 
+Sector Specific Plan among the various federal agencies with 
+responsibilities in the transportation sector, including DOT and its 
+modal administrations, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the U.S. 
+Coast Guard, and the Information Analysis and Infrastructure Protection 
+Directorate, among others.
+    DOT and its component modal administrations have subject matter 
+expertise, substantial relationships, and frequent interactions with 
+stakeholders and federal agencies involved in the entire Transportation 
+Sector. For these reasons, and pursuant to HSPD-7, TSA collaborates 
+closely with DOT's modal administrators, including the Federal Transit 
+Administration (FTA) and the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA), on 
+transportation sector security. In partnership with other component 
+agencies of DHS and in coordination with DOT modal administrations and 
+state, local and private sector partners, TSA leverages existing 
+security initiatives; coordinates the development of national 
+performance-based security standards and guidance; develops security 
+plans; assesses security vulnerabilities and identifies needed security 
+enhancements; identifies areas where regulations may be necessary to 
+improve the security of passengers, cargo, conveyances, transportation 
+facilities and infrastructures; and identifies areas where better 
+compliance with established regulations and policies can be achieved. 
+TSA is currently developing modal-specific security plans to flesh out 
+additional details of each of the transportation modes encompassed 
+within the Transportation Sector Specific plan. TSA is working with DOT 
+modal administrators in developing these plans.
+
+    19. What level of coordination of transit security efforts is 
+currently taking place between the TSA, state and local transit 
+authorities and Amtrak?
+    Answer: TSA works closely with FTA, state and local transit 
+authorities and Amtrak on a regular basis. Before and since the 
+issuance of the Security Directives (SD) on May 20, 2004, TSA has been 
+in close communication with the FTA and FRA, and transit agencies and 
+passenger rail operators throughout the nation. TSA's SDs have assisted 
+in ensuring that best practices implemented by a number of the nation's 
+largest transit systems both prior to and after the Madrid and Moscow 
+attacks, due greatly to the significant effort undertaken by FTA in the 
+wake of 9/11 to undertake comprehensive vulnerability assessments of 
+major transit systems, are implemented consistently through all the 
+nation's commuter rail and transit systems. Additionally, TSA, IP and 
+FTA are coordinating very closely to conduct additional criticality 
+assessments of the top rail-based mass transit assets.
+    TSA has initiated a project aimed at providing comprehensive 
+security reviews of all owners and operators in the rail and transit 
+environment. TSA meets with stakeholders to review and assess security 
+plans and to ensure that baseline security measures have been addressed 
+for different threat levels.
+    FTA and TSA receive and share information on threats and 
+intelligence through the Surface Transportation ISAC (Information 
+Sharing and Analysis Center) managed by the Association of American 
+Railroads (AAR). TSA has also sponsored a tabletop exercise at Union 
+Station Washington, DC involving stakeholders, emergency responders and 
+enforcement agencies in implementing the station's Emergency Response 
+Plan.
+    TSA, AMTRAK, and Federal Railroad Administration coordinated to 
+institute a passenger and carry-on baggage-screening prototype for 
+explosives in a rail environment called the Transit and Rail Inspection 
+Pilot (TRIP). Phase I was conducted in partnership with DOT, Amtrak, 
+MARC and Washington's Metro from May 4 to May 26 at the New Carrollton, 
+MD, station. Phase II was conducted in conjunction with AMTRAK between 
+June 7 and July 5 at Washington, D.C.'s Union Station, and Phase III 
+was conducted from July 19 to August 20 and involved a partnership 
+between DHS, DOT and the State of Connecticut's Shoreline East Commuter 
+Rail.
+    Additionally, TSA, in coordination with the Department of Defense 
+Technical Support Working Group (TSWG), initiated a project at Amtrak's 
+30th Street Station in Philadelphia. The objective of the TSWG funded 
+Mass Transit Video Surveillance project is to develop and deploy an 
+integrated monitoring, detection, and alerting system with the ability 
+to distinguish, track, and display anomalous human behavior in 
+multiple-stream video feeds for the identification of possible 
+terrorist attacks in a mass transit setting. The system is to be 
+adaptable for monitoring a variety of mass transportation venues, 
+including mass transit subway stations, light rail stations, bus 
+terminals, tunnels, and bridges, and testing is expected to commence in 
+late fiscal year 2004.
+
+    20. What is the current status of TSA's planned threat based 
+security management system for all modes of transportation, and 
+specifically for passenger rail security? How does this system address 
+passenger rail security?
+    Answer: Consistent with Homeland Security Presidential Directive 7, 
+governing protection of critical infrastructures, TSA is developing a 
+national transportation security strategy that focuses on awareness, 
+prevention, response, recovery, restoration of services, and restoring 
+public confidence. In partnership with other component agencies of the 
+Department of Homeland Security (DHS), modal administrations of the 
+Department of Transportation (DOT) and industry stakeholders, TSA is 
+working to assess security vulnerabilities and identify needed 
+enhancements to the rail system and related infrastructure, develop 
+national performance-based security standards and guidance to assess 
+and improve the security of passengers, cargo, conveyances, 
+transportation facilities and infrastructures; and ensure compliance 
+with established regulations and policies. This information will be 
+incorporated into the Transportation Sector Specific Plan (SSP), part 
+of the National Critical Infrastructure Protection Plan pursuant to 
+HSPD-7. The SSPs articulate and seek to better define and improve how 
+federal and privatesector stakeholders communicate and work together; 
+how important assets in the transportation sector are to be identified, 
+assessed, and prioritized; how protective programs will be developed; 
+how risk reduction will be measured; and how R&D will be prioritized. 
+TSA and DOT Modal administrations are building the foundation of the 
+SSPs to create modal security plans, including mass transit and rail, 
+to provide overall operational planning guidance on transit and rail 
+security. Development of the Transportation and other SSPs is nearly 
+complete. Development of the modal plans will leverage the interagency 
+working groups formed to develop the SSP, and is also underway.
+    Efforts in rail transit security over the past two years have 
+focused on greater information sharing between the industry and all 
+levels of government, assessing vulnerabilities in the rail and transit 
+sector to develop new security measures and plans, increasing training 
+and public awareness campaigns, and providing greater assistance and 
+funding for rail transit activities.
+    TSA will continue to assess the risk of terrorist attacks on non-
+aviation transportation modes, assess the need for passenger, cargo, 
+and supply-chain standards and procedures to address those risks, and 
+ensure compliance with established standards and policies. The 
+following are some of the activities and initiatives DHS has/will 
+implement in partnership with TSA to strengthen security in surface 
+modes:
+         Issued Security Directives (SD) to ensure that best 
+        security practices are implemented throughout the industry. The 
+        SDs establish 16 mandatory protective measures for commuter and 
+        transit passenger rail, inter-city train, and regional 
+        services.
+         Ensure compliance with security standards for commuter 
+        and rail lines and better help identify gaps in the security 
+        system in coordination with DOT, with additional technical 
+        assistance and training provided by TSA;
+         Study hazardous materials (HAZMAT) security threats 
+        and identify best practices to enhance the security of 
+        transporting HAZMAT.
+         Conducted a pilot program to test the new technologies 
+        and screening concepts to evaluate the feasibility of screening 
+        luggage and carry-on bags for explosives at rail stations and 
+        aboard trains;
+         Develop and implement a mass transit vulnerability 
+        self-assessment tool;
+         Continue the distribution of public security awareness 
+        material (i.e., tip cards, pamphlets, and posters) for 
+        motorcoach, school bus, passenger rail, and commuter rail 
+        employees;
+         Increase passenger, rail employee, and local law 
+        enforcement awareness through public awareness campaigns and 
+        security personnel training;
+
+    21. When does TSA expect to complete (a) name-based checks and (b) 
+criminal background checks for the Transportation Worker Identification 
+Card (TWIC) Program? Does TSA intend to prioritize categories of 
+workers for background checks?
+    Answer: The Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC) 
+Prototype Phase has begun in three regional areas: LA / Long Beach, CA; 
+Delaware River and Bay; and the State of Florida. Participation in the 
+TWIC Prototype Phase is voluntary and expected to include not more than 
+200,000 people. TSA intends to complete name-based checks on prototype 
+participants against lists of known/suspected terrorists in all three 
+regions during the Prototype Phase, but will not make a decision on 
+conducting criminal background checks until after the prototype is 
+complete. Florida, which is a TWIC Prototype Phase participant, will 
+continue to conduct criminal background checks under that state's 
+current statutory authority. This background check is a state 
+requirement and not a federal or TWIC requirement.
+    In conducting the Prototype, TSA and transportation stakeholders 
+intend to further evaluate background check approaches and their 
+ability to meet the TWIC program's three goals of improving security, 
+enhancing commerce, and protecting individuals' privacy. Planning for 
+full implementation continues and will be significantly affected by the 
+results and lessons learned in Prototype. This planning process will 
+include a detailed review of the schedule for implementation, which 
+will establish a timeline for completion of name based and criminal 
+background checks for transportation workers.
+
+Immigration and Customs Enforcement
+Federal Air Marshals
+22. Does BTS expect that requiring air marshals on flights by foreign 
+carriers to the United States would necessitate significant new 
+resources, e.g. for training and liaison with foreign governments and 
+airlines? How can BTS vet and certify foreign air marshals to ensure 
+they have right level of training and professionalism?
+    Answer: The US Government does not require air marshals on foreign 
+air carrier flights transiting to/from the United States. On Dec 28, 
+2003, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) issued an 
+Emergency Amendment (EA) making reference to placing foreign air 
+marshals on flights to/from/over flying the U.S. ``where necessary'' 
+when threat information warranted such action. The EA did not stipulate 
+that foreign air marshals were required, only that they may be 
+required. However, this did prompt many foreign governments to 
+reexamine their need for air marshals. As a result, the U.S. Federal 
+Air Marshal Service (FAMS) has received numerous requests for FAMS 
+provided air marshal training. If the US Government eventually requires 
+air marshals on foreign flights, then, the FAMS can expect to see an 
+escalation of foreign requests for training. The U.S. Government does 
+not certify foreign air marshal programs nor is the U. S. FAMS vetted 
+or certified by any foreign entity. Those countries that have air 
+marshals transiting the U.S. have been allowed to do so by the 
+Department of State (DOS) and the TSA. The DOS relies on TSA's input as 
+to whether permission (through a visa) should be granted.
+
+Temporary Worker Initiative
+    23. Is USCIS' Basic Pilot Program for employer verification an 
+appropriate model for the President's proposal? How might this be 
+linked with the ICE Worksite Enforcement Program to develop an 
+effective long term, nationwide program? (Note: P.L. 108-156 mandates 
+expansion of the Basic Pilot Program at a projected cost of about $5.0 
+million more than the current $6.0 million budget.)
+    Answer: The concept behind the Basic Pilot Program can be an 
+integral and effective part in ICE's overall Worksite Enforcement/
+Critical Infrastructure Protection strategy. The capability of 
+legitimate employers to easily verify employment authorization will 
+help to reduce the number of opportunities for undocumented aliens who 
+gain employment in the United States through the presentation of 
+fraudulent documents. As the program expands throughout the United 
+States, ICE may use it to supplement its enforcement plan as an after 
+action tool. For example, recent ICE operations have focused on the 
+reduction of vulnerabilities to the nation's economy and critical 
+infrastructure. As ICE reviews employers and employees in these areas, 
+the employers may be enrolled in the Basic Pilot Program to assure that 
+future employees are authorized for employment. This will reduce the 
+need for ICE to continue to scrutinize a particular industry.
+    Given its expanded use and potentially growing role, it will be 
+important to re-evaluate the technology incorporated in the Basic Pilot 
+Program to ensure that it will continue to provide a fool-proof tool 
+for employers.
+
+ICE Detention and Removal
+    24. As the pace of ICE enforcement and removal activity quickens 
+(with the $186 million increase in fiscal year 2005 programs), at what 
+point will the number of detained aliens exceed the capacity of DHS to 
+hold them or keep track of them?
+    Answer: Currently, ICE detains 23,000 aliens, on average, per day. 
+However, ICE estimates that there is a potential requirement for 
+detaining upwards of 36,000 aliens, on average, per day. Because 
+detention is very expensive and because not all aliens must be detained 
+in order to maintain effective control over them, DHS / ICE is 
+developing more cost-effective alternatives to detention. Alternative 
+to detention initiatives include electronic monitoring and intensive 
+community supervision.
+    For fiscal year 2004, DHS / ICE is piloted eight intensive 
+supervision sites, each with 200 participants. The fiscal year 2005 
+budget includes funding ($11 million) to double the capacity at each of 
+those sites and to add one new site. These enhancements allow for the 
+controlled supervision of 3,400 low threat-risk aliens nationwide. Use 
+of detention alternatives for low risk aliens allows for increased 
+detention of higher risk aliens and results in better security for US 
+citizens. This initiative received appropriations in fiscal year 2005 
+at the level of the request.
+    It is difficult to estimate the precise point at which the number 
+of detained aliens will exceed DHS' ability to either hold or keep 
+track of them. Currently, DHS / ICE effectively detains or supervises 
+approximately 1 million aliens nationwide. Clearly, initiatives such as 
+alternatives to detention expand DHS's ability to control non-detained 
+aliens, while initiatives such as expedited removals and institutional 
+removals speed the process of deporting removable aliens and thereby 
+reduce overall requirements for detention and tracking.
+    25. Do the MOUs with Florida and Alabama on local enforcement of 
+immigration laws provide a boilerplate for expanded interior 
+enforcement? Does ICE plan any new MOU's as provided by the Illegal 
+Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 and other 
+legislation?
+    Answer: Section 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act 
+(I&NA) affords ICE and state and local law enforcement agencies an 
+opportunity to address specific criminal activity and security concerns 
+when dealing with foreign nationals residing in the United States. The 
+Section 287(g) Program serves as a force multiplier for both ICE and 
+the participating state/local agency.
+    The required Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) is used to establish 
+the parameters by which the cross-designated officers will use their 
+ICE immigration authority. This allows both parties to address the 
+public safety concerns in their geographical areas covered by the MOU.
+    ICE is currently developing MOUs with the Commonwealth of Virginia 
+and Los Angeles County, under 287(g). ICE does not actively pursue or 
+solicit state and/or local enforcement agencies to participate in the 
+287(g) Program. The state and/or local political entity must initiate a 
+request to DHS/ICE to participate in the 287(g) Program.
+
+ICE Air and Marine Operations (AMO)
+    26. How have AMO's operations and responsibilities changed since 9/
+11, and what resource demands have these changes entailed? How are 
+these needs being met?
+    Answer: In the post-9/11 strategic environment, a new national 
+requirement for airspace and marine security has been identified and 
+entrusted to AMO. This includes new missions such as airspace security 
+over Washington, D.C., designated National Security Special Events, 
+Continuity of Government operations and the launch of five new Northern 
+Border Branches. This is a significant and rapid expansion of 
+operations and responsibilities beyond AMO's legacy customs 
+interdiction mission.
+    AMO covers the most pressing tasks and missions today by surging 
+its personnel, resources and force structure that are still mainly 
+sized against the pre-9/11 legacy missions. Supplemental appropriations 
+have met some of the additional costs associated with the expansion in 
+AMO missions and responsibilities. AMO is presently revalidating 
+requirements and identifying the force structure and capital equipment 
+needed to complete its transition into a force enabled to cover fully 
+all of the new air and marine missions beyond its legacy Customs 
+interdiction role.
+
+    27. What plans are there to economize or integrate BTS and Coast 
+Guard air and marine assets--e.g., capital acquisitions and facilities, 
+support and maintenance programs?
+    Answer: In fiscal year 2005, BTS air and marine assets will be 
+consolidated within the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection. 
+Efforts are underway to manage that consolidation to ensure the maximum 
+operational and cost efficiencies.
+    While this consolidation proceeds, the Department will continue to 
+review additional operational and cost efficiencies that can be gained 
+between CBP and Coast Guard air and marine personnel, programs and 
+equipment. The Department manages this ongoing review through the 
+Aviation Management Council which provides the leadership and oversight 
+on joint DHS Aviation policy, operations, procedures, requirements, 
+sourcing strategies and asset management to support the needs of the 
+Department. This group is currently engaged in drafting a Department-
+wide Aviation Concept of Operations for review by the DHS Joint 
+Requirements Council.
+    Similarly marine assets continue to be reviewed by the Department's 
+Vessel Commodity Council. Although CBP and USCG have very different 
+marine missions, efficiencies may be gained by consolidating hull 
+designs and/or outboard engines, and standardizing maintenance 
+procedures on similar platforms and equipment. Furthermore, other 
+actions are being taken, for example: CBP is currently co-located with 
+USCG at their Niagara facility; also, upon delivery of the SAFE Boats 
+purchased from a Coast Guard contract, CBP plans to co-locate with USCG 
+and ICE at their facilities in Bellingham, WA, and is exploring 
+consolidated maintenance facilities with both USCG and ICE in 
+Brownsville, TX; and CBP is in the process of scheduling 
+representatives from the Coast Guard to provide an unbiased look at CBP 
+boat operations (in selected sectors) and offering best practices for 
+consideration.
+
+    28. What will be the effect of the proposed threefold increase in 
+flight hours on the AMO's aging P-3 surveillance aircraft? When will 
+DHS need to start replacing or refitting these aircraft?
+    Answer: The flying constraint has primarily been adequacy of 
+operations and maintenance funding. AMO's current P-3 inventory is 
+capable of flying the requested increased flight hours. With minor 
+manning augmentation, it will be very achievable to meet the increased 
+and expanded mission requirements.
+    Recapitalizing or modernizing to meet the P-3 specific mission 
+capability is part of AMO's deliberate modernization plan. This plan 
+will be reviewed by both the Department's Aviation Management Council, 
+and the Joint Requirements Council vis-a-vis all the other DHS aviation 
+requirements. Once that review is complete a recapitalization plan will 
+be developed.
+
+    29. When will DHS submit to Congress its ``Assessment of Aviation 
+Operations and Support?'' Will it conduct a similar review of AMO, CBP 
+and Coast Guard maritime operations to assess benefits of integrating 
+those activities?
+    Answer: The ``Assessment of Aviation Operations and Support'' has 
+been conducted with the assistance of Booz-Allen-Hamilton. The 
+Department has already initiated many of the recommendations stemming 
+from the report. The Assessment of Aviation Operations and Support 
+results have been made available to the Government Accountability 
+Office to aid in their engagements pertaining to the Review of the DHS 
+Efforts to Share Assets. Once the full report has been reviewed and 
+accepted throughout the Department it will be available for 
+distribution.
+
+    30. What are DHS recommendations for closing gaps in low-level 
+surveillance by Tethered Aerostat Radars (TARS)? How should this 
+coverage be assured over the long term? Has DHS made an assessment of 
+any new technology or systems which can fulfill this role?
+    Answer: TARS is a critical component in the interdiction of 
+airborne threats to the U.S. and forms part of our last line of border 
+defense. It is the only fixed system that provides low-level radar 
+coverage of air targets, and can provide some surveillance of maritime 
+and land targets.TARS currently provides the nation's most effective 
+surveillance system against multiple threats, and serves many national 
+objectives including homeland security; countering illicit traffickers 
+(air, land and sea); air sovereignty; air traffic control, and flight 
+safety. TARS is the only sensor system that can provide detection and 
+monitoring (D&M) of multiple airborne threats (drug smuggling, 
+terrorism, air-delivered WMD) on the southern approaches to the US--
+especially the southwest border.
+    Counterdrug D&M was made the statutory responsibility of DOD in the 
+1989 Defense Authorization Act. Specific responsibility for funding and 
+operation of TARS was assigned to DOD by separate statute in 1992. We 
+believe that this critical system, by roles, missions, and governmental 
+functions was properly assigned to DOD by Congress. DOD should retain 
+responsibility for this critical system.
+    The Department of Homeland Security is a strong advocate for TARS 
+and supports a complete TARS border surveillance system, until new 
+technologies are developed to meet this operational requirement. This 
+system would support air, land and sea surveillance requirements of 
+Border Patrol, U.S. Coast Guard, Office of Air and Marine Operations 
+and other DHS components as well as DoD.
+    DHS is exploring new technology to meet border security mission 
+requirement. The border security mission will be supported through a 
+variety of systems. Sensors such as TARS, UAVs, rotary and fixed wing 
+aircraft, and ground-based equipment and personnel to operate and 
+maintain these systems must be coordinated and aligned against the 
+highest critical vulnerabilities and threats. TARS is one critical and 
+cost-effective element of this system.UAVs hold promise in some 
+applications.
+
+Overseas Programs (ICE and CBP)
+    31. What plans does ICE have for expanding the reach of the Visa 
+Security Program (mandated by P.L. 107-296, Section 428) to countries 
+other than Saudi Arabia?
+    Answer: DHS plans to open additional overseas visa security offices 
+during fiscal year 2005. DHS, in consultation with DOS Bureau of 
+Consular Affairs, has identified the next priority sites based on a 
+risk assessment. To extend the reach of the program, these next offices 
+will cover defined geographic regions. As well, DHS is exploring the 
+concept of ``rapid response teams'' that would deploy to posts for 
+short periods of time to provide advice and training to the consular 
+officers on emerging threats and various methods to enhance their 
+adjudication activities.
+
+    32. What value-added can VSP officers bring to overseas functions 
+beyond what is already covered by Department of State officers (who 
+themselves receive training in security procedures with DHS assistance 
+under terms of a DHS-State MOU)? To what extent will VSP officers play 
+a liaison role to build up cooperation with their host country law 
+enforcement counterparts?
+    Answer: Each department has a separate focus, responsibility, and 
+area of expertise. Visa Security Officers (VSOs) focus on visa issues 
+and individual applicants that raise national and homeland security 
+concerns, whereas Consular Officers manage the day-to-day adjudication 
+of visa applications while also keeping security a high priority. VSOs 
+bring extensive subject matter expertise to this process, including 
+knowledge of immigration law, counter terrorism, document analysis, 
+investigations, intelligence research and dissemination, interviewing 
+and fraud detection. VSOs are seasoned, highly skilled officers with 
+experience in criminal enforcement outside, at, and within the border, 
+including potential abuses of the visa process. As law enforcement 
+officers, VSOs are best equipped to interpret, evaluate, and apply this 
+information. VSOs will coordinate with other law enforcement 
+authorities and appropriate DHS headquarters components to gather 
+information necessary to refuse visas to individuals who pose security 
+concerns, and to investigate abuses of the visa system. At post, VSOs 
+will participate in the terrorist lookout committee and other relevant 
+groups, and will build relationships with the u.S. law enforcement 
+community,. VSOs will assist with intelligence research, investigative 
+activity, risk assessment, and other collaborative law enforcement 
+efforts.
+
+    33. What plans does DHS have for the reported ``Immigration 
+Security Initiative,'' i.e. placing CBP inspectors at foreign hub 
+airports to pre-screen U.S.-bound passengers? Have the concerned 
+foreign governments agreed to this and, if so, with what conditions? 
+How many inspectors might be required, and does the fiscal year 2005 
+budget cover this program?
+    Answer: The Immigration Advisory Program (IAP), formerly known as 
+the Immigration Security Initiative (ISI) began a pilot program on June 
+26, 2004, with the deployment of four U.S. Customs and Border 
+Protection (CBP) Officers to Schiphol Airport, the Netherlands. After 
+the advice and consent of CBP's international partners in customs and 
+immigration, CBP Commissioner Bonner renamed this program from ISI to 
+IAP. A second effort began at Warsaw's Chopin Airport on September 15, 
+2004, with the deployment of five CBP Officers.
+    The IAP is based on a concept that is recognized and endorsed by 
+the International Air Transport Association/Control Authority Working 
+Group (IATA/CAWG). In fact, IATA/CAWG developed a code of conduct for 
+the Immigration Liaison Officer (ILO). Other like-minded countries, 
+Canada, United Kingdom, Australia and the Netherlands have similar 
+programs in place.
+    The number of officers needed depends on the flight and passenger 
+volume at each location. At major overseas hubs many U.S. bound flights 
+depart within a narrow time frame. Therefore, there will be a need for 
+more officers at those locations.
+    Congress added $2 million in fiscal year 2005 to expand the program 
+to new locations.
+
+    34. How can BTS leverage its resources for greater effectiveness of 
+its overseas personnel? For example, can VSP officers carry out pre-
+inspection tasks on behalf of CBP? How has BTS organized its component 
+units overseas to ensure that they are coordinated and can complement 
+one another?
+    Answer: The structure of the DHS international organization is 
+currently under review. BTS in particular is considering ways to better 
+share resources and responsibilities and to improve coordination and 
+communication among overseas components.
+
+    35. What plans does BTS have to attract qualified personnel and 
+build up a cadre of officers with the necessary functional, linguistic 
+and international expertise as mandated in Section 428 of the Homeland 
+Security Act?
+    Answer: BTS has developed a staffing model for the visa security 
+offices overseas and has defined selection criteria for Visa Security 
+Officers (VSOs). These criteria include: law enforcement expertise, 
+including investigations; counterterrorism experience; fraud document 
+detection training and experience; knowledge of immigration law; 
+experience working overseas in a diplomatic and interagency 
+environment; and language capabilities. The law enforcement career 
+tracks within the BTS components of ICE and CBP provide a large 
+available cadre of personnel with these types of functional expertise, 
+including experience working overseas. BTS has been very successful 
+recruiting volunteers to serve in the program and will continue to tap 
+this highly skilled pool of personnel. Once selected, the officers will 
+receive mission-specific training that refreshes functional skills and 
+prepares VSOs to serve in this unique capacity. BTS will continue to 
+address the government-wide shortage of language-qualified personnel by 
+providing significant language training to the VSOs.
+
+Counter-Narcotics
+    36. In the Homeland Security Act, the Department was organized to 
+include a dedicated Counter-Narcotics Officer on your staff who is to 
+ensure adequate focus of homeland security resources to the counterdrug 
+mission. This Counter-Narcotics Officer is also designated as the U.S. 
+Interdiction Coordinator (USIC) and reports to the Director of the 
+Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) on the overall national 
+interdiction effort. How effective has this dual position been? What 
+organizational relationship is there between the positions of the 
+Undersecretary and the Counter-Narcotics Officer? Does the Department 
+of Homeland Security have the resources necessary to attack the current 
+drug threat while keeping up with its other responsibilities?
+    Answer: The position of DHS Counternarcotics Officer was created as 
+an advisor to the Secretary of Homeland Security, not part of BTS 
+staff. The current CNO serves in multiple roles as ONDCP Director of 
+Intelligence, as United States Interdiction Coordinator, and as DHS 
+counternarcotics officer. I meet regularly with the CNO, and two of my 
+staff are located in his office. These actions help ensure the closest 
+coordination possible on counternarcotics issues.
+
+Questions Submitted by the House Select Committee on Homeland Security, 
+                             Minority Staff
+
+    1. According to recent testimony from Dr. Randy Null and additional 
+discussions with TSA staff, there are 30--40 airports that would see 
+security and efficiency benefits by implementing in-line screening 
+systems. However, TSA has signed Letters of Intent with only eight 
+airports, and does not plan to expand to significantly more airports. 
+What is the Department's plan for implementing Letters of Intent at 
+more airports, especially at those that aren't currently able to 
+electronically screen all checked baggage?
+    Answer: While numerous airports have expressed interest in entering 
+into an LOI for an in-line baggage screening solution, TSA continues to 
+use its available funding for EDS installation work at airports that 
+have yet to achieve, or cannot maintain, compliance with the 100 
+percent electronic screening requirement at all airports. TSA is 
+working with airports that will not be able to maintain compliance with 
+the 100 percent electronic screening requirement because of increased 
+passenger loads, increased and/or additional air carrier service, and/
+or airport terminal modifications and expansions. The President's 
+Budget for fiscal year 2005 supports previously issued 8 LOIs for 9 
+airports, and assumes a 75/25 cost share formula as set in the 
+Consolidated Appropriations Resolution, 2003. TSA also provides support 
+to some airports that have not received an LOI, by providing additional 
+funding to install equipment to accommodate increased passenger loads 
+and new air carrier service. Although 8 LOIs have been issued, TSA 
+continues to evaluate situations where an in-line solution makes sense 
+from the standpoint of security, efficiency, and reduced staffing 
+needs.
+
+    2. Congress has instituted a cap of 45,000 TSA screeners. Recent 
+reports indicate that many airports are understaffed, which leads to 
+detection equipment going unused; transfer of screeners away from 
+baggage checkpoints to passenger checkpoints, leaving too few screeners 
+inspecting checked baggage, and an increase in delay times. Do you 
+believe that 45,000 screeners is the optimal workforce size? Would you 
+support a detailed study of how many people are needed to appropriately 
+conduct airport screening?
+    Answer: TSA is committed to providing strong security and the best 
+possible customer service while working within the 45,000 screener cap 
+set by Congress. TSA is creating a more flexible workforce, better 
+coordinating airline schedules and passenger load with staffing needs, 
+increasing the proportion of part-time to full-time screeners, and 
+strategically using its mobile National Screener Force to meet seasonal 
+fluctuations in workload. TSA expects to have a parttime screener 
+workforce of close to 20 percent by the end of 2004. Part-time 
+screeners create additional operational flexibility when scheduling 
+screeners to satisfy varying levels of demand. As a result of reducing 
+excess capacity at periods of lower demand, TSA is seeking to make more 
+FTEs available to the system as a whole during peak periods.
+    In the short-term, TSA is also revising its screener allocation 
+methodology which will be completed in 2004.\1\ The approach calls upon 
+modeling capabilities and actual operational experience. The revised 
+allocation will not be similar to the right-sizing that occurred last 
+year, but rather will be modest adjustments based on items such as 
+forecasted air travel, hours of operation, baggage screening areas, 
+passenger checkpoint lanes, types of equipment and screener Standard 
+Operating Procedures as well as FSD input and involvement. TSA is 
+shaping the airport's screener staffing levels based on direct input 
+from FSDs and will regularly monitor these numbers to ensure staffing 
+levels are appropriate based on work force needs.
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+    \1\ After the date of this hearing, TSA completed its revisions of 
+the allocation of screeners. The numbers were announced on May 14, 2004 
+and reflect a modest adjustment to a workforce already functioning for 
+the last six months at the 45,000 full-time equivalent cap.
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+    Simultaneously, TSA is in the process of conducting a needs 
+assessment to determine the optimal number of screeners at each 
+airport. This is a longer-term project that will evaluate many 
+different factors and variables need to be weighed in order to complete 
+a thorough study that can be used for all airports across the country. 
+To ensure the project's success, TSA has partnered with the aviation 
+industry to form the U.S. Commercial Aviation Partnership, which is 
+studying trends in aviation and providing better forecasting to TSA 
+regarding changes that are expected in traffic patterns and airport 
+demand. The needs assessment effort will also draw on TSA's operational 
+experience. TSA believes that both precise forecasting and an 
+operational record are critical enablers of an accurate needs 
+assessment to ensure that resources are allocated in the most optimal 
+manner.
+
+    3. Why is the operations budget of the Federal Air Marshal Service 
+being cut in this request? If it is because Secret Service and other 
+federal law enforcement officers are substituting on some flights, what 
+level of training are those officers receiving to act as air marshals?
+    Answer: The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) continues to view 
+the Federal Air Marshal Service (FAMS) as a fundamental component of 
+our national security plan and overall counter-terrorism efforts. The 
+services provided by the FAMS are integral to our efforts to instill 
+and sustain public confidence in our civil aviation system and for 
+providing an expanded law enforcement capability in our skies that 
+previously did not exist. In fact, within the span of roughly two and a 
+half years the FAMS has fielded a trained work force of literally 
+thousands of FAMSs to protect America's citizens and interests in our 
+commercial air transportation system.
+    In this same time, DHS has also worked with the Congress to invest 
+in, develop and implement a layered security plan that encompasses the 
+coordinated efforts of an entire spectrum of Federal, State and local 
+agencies. These agencies are working together to provide an array of 
+intelligence, enforcement and protection services to our civil aviation 
+system, our borders and to other areas vital to the nation. Under this 
+strategy, we have established mechanisms and programs designed 
+specifically to complement one another. For example, DHS has invested 
+in cutting edge technology for airport and baggage screening 
+activities; we have hardened cockpit doors; we have established a 
+Federal flight deck officer training program; and we are continuously 
+working to apply the latest intelligence information in shaping our 
+decision-making and response to terrorist threats.
+    The fiscal year 2005 budget request reflects this layered approach. 
+Not only does it include a request that represents a 32 percent 
+increase over the fiscal year 2003 level but it also includes a $600 
+million request for TSA to increase aviation security and a $10 million 
+dollar request for Science & Technology efforts to supports the FAMS.
+    The Department is evaluating ways to best leverage the law 
+enforcement resources of other ICE programs and federal law enforcement 
+agencies in general, in improving our aviation security/counter-
+terrorism efforts. These initiatives include the Mission Surge Program, 
+which pairs Federal Air Marshals with ICE agents during peak threat 
+periods, and the Force Multiplier Program (FMP). Through the FMP, 
+participating agencies are provided a computer based training to 
+prepare Federal law enforcement officers to react within the unique 
+aircraft environment in fan in-flight crisis. Participating Federal law 
+enforcement officers traveling in their normal course of business are 
+not replacements for Federal Air Marshals. However, the FMP is intended 
+to allow FAMS planners to better manage and allocate Federal Air 
+Marshal resources and otherwise improve coverage of priority flights of 
+interest.
+
+    4. The GAO recently reported that the CAPPS II systems had met only 
+one of eight requirements and that several management and program 
+objectives were still undeveloped. What is the Department's timeline 
+for initial operating capability, full operating capability, and 
+deployment of the CAPPS II system? What specific activities will be 
+supported with the increased funding requested for fiscal year 2005?
+    Answer: After a lengthy review, DHS has announced the creation of 
+the new Secure Flight program, which will serve as the next generation 
+domestic airline passenger passenger prescreening program. Secure 
+Flight will shift responsibility for conducting airline passenger pre 
+screening from the airlines to TSA by checking domestic airline 
+passenger name records against the consolidated terrorism watch list 
+maintained by the Terrorist Screening Center (TSC), and applying a 
+modified version of the CAPPS I rules currently operated by the Air 
+Carriers.
+    Secure Flight will only be implemented after it has undergone 
+rigorous and complete testing to ensure that it effectively strengthens 
+the security of travel by air, adequately protects passenger privacy, 
+and enhances the free flow of commerce. Testing, using historical 
+passenger name record information is slated to begin no later than 
+December 1, 2004. Secure Flight is expected to be operational in fiscal 
+year 2005. TSA will ensure that GAO has access to applicable 
+information regarding Secure Flight.
+    TSA would spend the $60 million requested for fiscal year 2005 in 
+the following manner:
+
+  TSA would spend the $60 million requested for fiscal year 2005 in the
+                            following manner:
+
+
+
+Secure Flight Testing......................................       $5.25M
+Commercial Data Testing....................................        2.50M
+Air Carrier Interface......................................       15.50M
+Secure Flight Operations...................................       17.00M
+Physical Infrastructure....................................       13.25M
+Technical Services.........................................        6.50M
+
+
+    5. Provide funding levels for NEXUS and SENTRI programs for fiscal 
+year 2003, 2004 and 2005. Please include vendor cost estimates on 
+upgrade and maintenance as well as any estimates on equipment cost for 
+expansion of NEXUS, and creation of enrollment centers.
+    Answer: The information follows. CBP has been unable to identify 
+any appropriated funding for SENTRI.
+
+
+                                                                                        Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year
+                Current Budget &  Projections                      Fiscal Year 2003         2004         2005
+                                                                        Budget             Budget       Budget
+
+NEXUS........................................................               $5,600,000            0            0
+SENTRI.......................................................                        0            0            0
+
+Budget Requirements..........................................
+NEXUS                                                                 Fiscal Year 2005
+Maintenance..................................................               $3,000,000
+Marketing....................................................                  500,000
+Pilot Programs...............................................                1,000,000
+New Sites....................................................                3,000,000
+Miscellaneous Expenses                                                       1,000,000
+  (training/signage/travel/etc.).............................
+Enhanced Enrollment Process..................................                2,000,000
+Total........................................................              $10,500,000
+
+SENTRI-VehicIe                                                        Fiscal Year 2005
+SENTRI Expansion.............................................               $8,400,000
+SENTRI Maintenance...........................................                3,300,000
+Marketing....................................................                1,000,000
+Application Processing Center................................                5,000,000
+Total........................................................              $17,700,000
+
+SENTRI Pedestrian                                                     Fiscal Year 2005
+Pedestrian SENTRI Expansion..................................               $7,800,000
+Pedestrian SENTRI Maintenance (not required..................                        0
+  1st year)..................................................
+Total........................................................               $7,800,000
+
+NEXUS/SENTRI-Marine                                                   Fiscal Year 2005
+Expansion....................................................               $6,000,000
+Maintenance                                                                          0
+  (not required 1st year)....................................
+Marketing....................................................                1,000,000
+Total........................................................               $7,000,000
+
+
+                                 
+
+