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Q2 2017 Microsoft Corp Earnings Call |
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JANUARY 26, 2017 / 10:30PM GMT |
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* Satya Nadella |
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Microsoft Corporation - CEO |
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* Amy Hood |
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Microsoft Corporation - CFO |
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* Chris Suh |
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Microsoft Corporation - General Manager IR |
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* Brent Thill |
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UBS - Analyst |
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* Phil Winslow |
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Credit Suisse - Analyst |
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* Heather Bellini |
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Goldman Sachs - Analyst |
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* Walter Pritchard |
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Citigroup - Analyst |
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* Keith Weiss |
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Morgan Stanley - Analyst |
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* Karl Keirstead |
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Deutsche Bank - Analyst |
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* Mark Moerdler |
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Bernstein - Analyst |
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* Raimo Lenschow |
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Barclays Capital - Analyst |
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* Mark Murphy |
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JPMorgan - Analyst |
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* Kash Rangan |
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BofA Merrill Lynch - Analyst |
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* Ross MacMillan |
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RBC Capital Markets - Analyst |
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Welcome to the second quarter of FY17 Microsoft Corporation earnings conference call. |
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As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would like to turn the call over to Chris Suh, General Manager of Investor Relations. Chris, please proceed. |
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Chris Suh, Microsoft Corporation - General Manager IR [2] |
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Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today. |
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On the call with me today are Satya Nadella, Chief Executive Officer; Amy Hood, Chief Financial Officer; Frank Brod, Chief Accounting Officer; and John Seethoff, Deputy General Counsel and Corporate Secretary. On our website, Microsoft.com/Investor, you can find our earnings press release and financial summary slide deck, which is intended to supplement our prepared remarks during today's call and provides the reconciliation of differences between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. |
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Microsoft completed the acquisition of LinkedIn this quarter, and is reporting its results in the Productivity and Business Processes segment beginning on December 8, 2016. Accordingly, our key investor metrics do not include the impact of LinkedIn. |
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Additionally, for Q2 only we're providing non-GAAP results, excluding LinkedIn, to help investors compare our results to the guidance previously provided for the quarter. Our press release and slide deck contain supplemental information regarding the impact of LinkedIn on our financial results. |
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Unless otherwise specified, we will refer to non-GAAP metrics on the call. The non-GAAP financial measures provided should not be considered as a substitute for, or superior to, the measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. They are included as additional clarifying items to aid investors in further understanding the Company's second-quarter performance, in addition to the impact that these items and events had on the financial results. |
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Additionally, any mention of operating expenses refers to segment operating expenses as defined in the footnotes of our Form 10-Q, which include research and development, sales and marketing, and general administrative, but excludes the impact of integration and restructuring charges. All growth comparisons we make on the call today relate to the corresponding period of last year, unless otherwise noted. We also provide growth rates in constant currency, when available, as a framework for assessing how our underlying businesses performed, excluding the effect of foreign currency rate fluctuations. |
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We will post our prepared remarks to our website immediately following today's call until the complete transcript is available. Today's call is being webcast live and recorded. If you ask a question, it will be included in our live transmission in the transcript and in any future use of the recording. You can replay the call and view the transcript on the Microsoft Investor Relations website until January 26, 2018. |
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During this call, we will be making forward-looking statements, which are predictions, projections or other statements about future events. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties. |
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Actual results could materially differ because of factors discussed in today's earnings press release in the comments made during this conference call and in the risk factor section of our Form 10-K, Form 10-Q, and other reports and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statement. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Satya. |
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Satya Nadella, Microsoft Corporation - CEO [3] |
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Thank you, Chris, and thanks to everyone on the phone for joining. Today I'll share the results for the second quarter and discuss what's ahead. |
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We had a solid quarter overall, delivering $26.1 billion in revenue, up 4% in constant currency. More importantly, we're making progress by innovating in new areas, growing our addressable market opportunity, and transforming our culture. |
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Wherever I go in my travels, whether it's in conversations with heads of state, NGOs or CEOs, the common thread is the transformative power of digital technology to unlock new opportunity. Everyone I meet is talking about building their own digital capability to transform their product, service and business model. They're looking to Microsoft for security, productivity, business process, cloud and AI platforms to help drive their own transformation. |
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In this last quarter we have continued to build momentum across all of these areas, and in particular AI. Just this month we acquired an AI deep learning startup, Maluuba, whose work in natural language processing will help advance our strategy to democratize AI for everyone. With that as the backdrop, I will turn to progress we've made this quarter by segment, starting with Productivity and Business Process. |
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Office 365 commercial seats grew 37% year over year, and revenue is up 49% in constant currency. We're changing the nature of work with Office as the universal toolkit to help people and teams accomplish more together. |
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To that end, this quarter we introduced Microsoft Teams, our new chat-based workspace for Office 365. It brings together the full breadth and depth of Office 365, as well as connection to third-party services, all in a secure hub for teamwork. We are seeing strong demand for the preview from our existing Office 365 customers, due to the deep integration of the rest of the Office platform. And at the same time, customers not yet on Office 365 are excited about this new work -- way to work to see Teams as a potential first cloud workload. |
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In addition to collaboration, our innovation in security and compliance continues to drive customer preference for Office 365. This quarter we added new capabilities to give IT better ways to help the user safely connect to the third-party applications. And for compliance, new E-discovery capabilities make it easier and faster for organizations to find and analyze information related to legal and regulatory requests. |
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Customers also find value in the integration of SharePoint with PowerApps and Microsoft Flow to quickly and easily build mobile apps and automate workflows. In fact, just eight weeks after availability, we have seen more than 0.5 million people use PowerApps for Flow. |
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This combination of productivity, security, and agility is incredibly valuable to customers, particularly in sectors like financial services and healthcare. Take Willis Towers Watson, a global financial services firm who chose our premium enterprise offering, including Office 365 E5; global fortune 500 companies; TD Bank and ACSA; as well as Partners HealthCare and the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, all chose Office 365 for its powerful security and productivity platform. And AstraZeneca recently upgraded Office 365 E5 for its advanced voice capabilities. |
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We are also expanding our growth opportunity beyond information workers by creating productivity solutions for retail, restaurant, hospitality and manufacturing employees, who have traditionally been underserved by technology providers. Microsoft StaffHub, a new application in Office 365, provides shift scheduling, messaging and sharing capabilities for all these front-line workers. |
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Now let me talk about the second part of our ambition in the segment, reinventing business process. We completed the acquisition of LinkedIn in December, marking the start of our journey to bring together the world's professional cloud with the world's leading professional network. |
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Our top priority is to ensure we innovate and drive value for LinkedIn members and grow their daily engagement., The LinkedIn Business Solutions' higher market sell and learn represent an expanded market opportunity for Microsoft, and we plan to diligently execute on this opportunity, keeping the member first ethos and focus. |
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We are seeing good results with the core experience, with our revamped mobile app driving significant engagement growth in 2016. This quarter, the sessions on LinkedIn grew more than 20% year over year, a consistent level of growth throughout 2016. We also achieved record levels of mobile page views and feed interaction, creating a healthy foundation for LinkedIn's marketing solutions, which includes the rapidly growing Sponsored Updates. |
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We also saw members engage with LinkedIn's hiring products at record levels as part of Talent Solutions. And LinkedIn's Sales Solutions have also seen rapid growth, Sales Navigator seats up more than 20% year over year during the quarter. Sales Navigator's success on multiple CRM platforms makes it an essential tool for every B2B salesperson, and one of our first integration scenarios will be to redefine social selling by enhancing Dynamics 365 with LinkedIn capabilities. |
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The combination of LinkedIn's Business Solutions and Dynamics 365 gives us a more comprehensive portfolio of business SaaS solutions and strengthens our position in this growing and competitive market. Dynamics 365 paid seats more than doubled again this quarter, and new enterprise customers are increasingly choosing our Cloud Solutions, with more than 80% using Dynamics 365. |
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DefenseReady is using Dynamics to give military leaders a 360-degree view of their organizations to quickly make informed decisions about capacity, planning and operations. Amway is using Dynamics 365 to modernize and empower their entrepreneurial sales force around the globe. |
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Now let's talk about the progress we are making in our Intelligent Cloud Segment. Our commercial cloud annualized revenue run rate now exceeds $14 billion, and we're on track to achieve our $20 billion in FY18. |
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Customers choose the Microsoft Cloud of the following reasons. They want a trusted, global, hyperscale cloud provider that meets enterprise-grade needs. They want hybrid support that is architected into the hyperscale service, as well is the cloud servers. They want higher-level services to help build their own digital capability across IoT, enterprise, app-to-app, advanced analytics and AI capability. |
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Moreover, and most importantly, CIOs, CSOs, BDMs and developers are all seeing the benefit from operational consistency, productivity and security across their entire digital estate, spanning Windows 10, Cloud and Security Management, Office 365, Dynamics 365, Enterprise Mobility and Azure. A prime example is Mars, a $35 billion business with 60 brands. |
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An early adopter of Office 365, Mars is using Office and Windows 10 to transform how its 80,000-strong global workforce collaborates while staying secure. And more recently, they have begun running mission-critical workloads on Azure, with hundreds more on the way, including inventory management using Azure IoT. |
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Swift Transportation, one of the largest trucking companies in the United States, is digitizing work for nearly 20,000 drivers with Office 365 and Skype, and is using Azure to harness the data from their sensors-equipped trucks to optimize driver productivity and safety. Across industries we continue to see strong customer demand for our differentiated Cloud Solutions. |
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Azure revenue grew 95% in constant currency this quarter. Azure premium revenue grew triple digits for the 10th consecutive quarter, and more than three out of four Azure customers are using Premium Services. |
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We are also leading the next-generation programming model and developer services innovation, with conversational bots, microservices, and event-driven serverless compute to help businesses rapidly gain the benefits of cloud infrastructure. Our bot framework is being used by more than 77,000 developers to do everything from e-commerce to customer service. Azure Functions is helping companies like AccuWeather and [Plexture] to quickly and easily implement business-critical, event-driven serverless processes, and everyone from game developers to financial services companies are using Azure Service Fabric for their low-latency, high-scale microservices applications. |
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We're also rapidly expanding our portfolio of data and AI capabilities in Azure. Cognitive Services, now deeply integrated with Azure Data Lake, enables customers to use industry-leading AI capabilities to easily analyze images, text, emotions, speech, sentiments at terabyte scale. In our push to meet the needs of any developer on any platform, we joined the Lennox Foundation, welcomed Google to .NET foundation, and announced new Azure partnership with OpenAI to accelerate our vision. |
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At the edge of our cloud, Windows Server 2016 and SQL Server 2016 give enterprises Azure-inspired scale and innovation for secure infrastructure and cloud applications. Customers have already deployed more than 1 million instances of Windows Server 2016, and the new SQL Server drove a 5 times increase in developer downloads in Q2 versus Q1. |
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Now I'll turn to our progress in more personal computing. This quarter we saw growth across Windows broadly. First, Windows 10 commercial customers are rapidly adopting Windows 10, driven by the need for a secure and trusted platform. In fact, this quarter enterprise and education deployments increased 52%. |
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Accenture, Broward County School District, UnitedHealthcare Group, are just a few that are choosing Windows 10 as their modern, secure, enterprise-grade platform. These three commercial customers alone have already deployed more than 300,000 seats, with commitments to deploy over 0.5 million. |
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The consumer PC market is also stabilizing. Gamers are increasingly turning to Windows 10 Premium PCs for the best gaming experiences, logging more than 26 billion hours of game play on PCs and tablets this year. |
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One reason gamers love their Windows 10 PC is because they can connect to their favorite games and social network on Xbox Live. Xbox Live monthly active users grew to 55 million this quarter, a new record, with growth across PCs, mobile, as well as the console. |
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Windows 10 Creators update will bring 3-D mixed reality and game broadcasting to all Windows 10 customers. Partners like Dell, HP, Lenovo and Acer are investing to deliver cutting-edge virtual reality experiences for customers using Windows 10 holographic platform. We're also broadening our opportunity to partnerships with chips at makers Intel, as well as Qualcomm, who have committed to build the next generation of modern Windows PCs with advanced security, connectivity, AI and mixed reality in gaming. |
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Our services, innovation and user engagement on Windows 10 continues to grow. Users have asked Cortana more than 18 billion questions to date, and we're opening up new addressable markets with Cortana Devices SDK. BMW, Renault, Nissan, HAMANN are all using Cortana to embed voice-activated intelligence into their portfolio of products. |
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Finally, let's talk about devices. I'm excited about the customer reception to Surface Studio, our latest innovation in Surface line, and a new device category. Overall commercial demand for Surface remained strong, with three consecutive quarters of more than 25% growth. Organizations across industries are looking to Surface to help them achieve more, such as Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs in the United Kingdom, rolling out Surface to more than 25,000 of its employees. |
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We are expanding into new markets with HoloLens. Commercial customers, like ThyssenKrupp Elevator, are using HoloLens to enable servicing up to four times faster than ever before, and we look forward to making HoloLens available in China in the first half of this year. |
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As customers embrace these new computers and computing experiences, we're generating enthusiasm for Windows 10, and new forms of expression, creativity in gaming that it can unleash. I'm proud of the progress we made this quarter and during the entire first half of the year. |
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We look to the second half with a clear focus on execution and innovation. We have a significant opportunity this year and beyond for growth across every one of our segments. We are uniquely positioned to build a technology that helps every person and organization take advantage of new innovations, like AI, and use them to drive their own growth and transformation. |
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Now let me hand it over to Amy to walk through this quarter's results in more detail and share our outlook. And I look forward to rejoining you for questions. |
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Thank you, Satya and good afternoon, everyone. I want to reiterate that my commentary reflects our performance, inclusive of approximately three weeks of LinkedIn results. For this quarter only, I will comment on our results, excluding LinkedIn, for consistency with the guidance provided last quarter. I encourage you to reference our earnings slides for supplemental information. |
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Our second-quarter revenue was $26.1 billion, up 2% and 4% in constant currency. Gross margin grew 3%, up 5% in constant currency. Operating income grew 5%, or 8% in constant currency. And earnings per share was $0.83, an increase of 9%, and 13% in constant currency. |
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Excluding LinkedIn, our second-quarter revenue was $25.8 billion, up 1%, and 3% in constant currency. Gross margin increased 3%, and 4% in constant currency. Operating income grew 8%, and 11% in constant currency. And our EPS was $0.84, increasing 11%, and 15% in constant currency. |
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Our investment agility and execution focus resulted in strong performance this quarter. From a geographic perspective, our results were largely in line with macroeconomic trends, with additional benefit from a healthier PC market, particularly in the commercial segment. |
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Our commercial cloud services drove our annuity mix up slightly year over year to 84%, even with better-than-expected transactional revenue performance. Commercial bookings increased 7%, or 12% in constant currency. Commercial unearned revenue met our guidance range at $21.1 billion, growing 8%, and 9% in constant currency, even with an FX headwind of approximately $150 million, due to the strengthening US dollar through the quarter. |
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And our contracted not billed balance reached an all-time high, exceeding $28 billion. Our commercial cloud revenue run rate grew to more than $14 billion, up 49%. Our commercial cloud gross margin percentage was 48%, up 2 points from last year, largely driven by improvement in the Azure gross margin percentage. |
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And gross margin dollars grew again, increasing 62% across the commercial cloud. We remain on track for material gross margin percentage and dollar improvement this fiscal year. |
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Now to Company gross margin. Gross margin was approximately 62%, inclusive of LinkedIn, up slightly from the prior year. This quarter, the strengthening of the US dollar relative to major currencies created additional negative FX impact on total and segment-level revenue. |
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On total revenue, FX had a 2-point negative impact, 1 point more than expected, with no additional impact from LinkedIn. In both Productivity and Business Processes and the Intelligent Cloud segments, the FX impact was 2 points, 1 point more than expected. And in More Personal Computing, FX had a 1-point impact, in line with expectations. |
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Total operating expenses grew 1%, and 2% in constant currency. Excluding LinkedIn, operating expenses declined 2%, also 2% in constant currency. Operating expenses were under our guidance range, primarily due to a favorable one-time legal settlement and FX benefits. |
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Now, let's turn to each segment. This quarter, revenue from our Productivity and Business Processes segment, which includes LinkedIn, grew 10%, and 12% in constant currency, to $7.4 billion. |
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In Office commercial, revenue increased by 5%, and 7% in constant currency, as Office 365 growth again outpaced the shift from the on-premise business. Office 365 commercial revenue increased by 47%, or 49% in constant currency, driven by a combination of install base growth across all workloads and ARPU expansion. |
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We also continued to see higher-than-expected results from our transactional business, in part due to an improving commercial PC market. Office Consumer revenue grew 22%, or 21% in constant currency, as we continued to see an increase in our subscriber base and growth of recurring subscription revenue. In addition, the higher growth rate this quarter aided by post-launch inventory drawdown in the prior period. |
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Our Dynamics business grew 7%, up 9% in constant currency, and our Dynamics 365 install base more than doubled. LinkedIn revenue for the three-week period from December 8 to the end of the quarter was $228 million. |
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Segment gross margin dollars grew 5%, and 6% in constant currency, while segment gross margin percentage declined due to increasing cloud sales mix, as well as roughly 1 point of impact from LinkedIn. |
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Operating expenses grew 13%, 14% in constant currency, driven by the LinkedIn acquisition. Operating income declined slightly, but was up 1% in constant currency, and up 7% in constant currency, excluding LinkedIn. |
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The Intelligent Cloud segment delivered $6.9 billion in revenue, growing 8%, and 10% in constant currency. Server grew 12%, and 14% in constant currency, with strong momentum in our Azure business and another quarter of double-digit annuity revenue growth. |
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Post-launch demand and purchasing ahead of currency-driven pricing adjustments contributed to a higher-than-expected transactional revenue, mainly from Windows and SQL Server 2016. As expected, enterprise services revenue growth declined this quarter 4%, and 2% in constant currency, due to lower volumes of Windows Server 2003 service agreements. |
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Gross margin dollars grew 2%, and 4% in constant currency. And segment gross margin percentage declined, due to an increasing cloud revenue mix and a lower enterprise services gross margin, partially offset by material improvement in Azure gross margin. |
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We grew operating expenses by 12%, and 13% in constant currency, with continued investment in cloud engineering sales capacity and developer engagement. Operating income declined 7% and 4% in constant currency. |
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Now to our final segment, More Personal Computing. Revenue exceeded our expectation at $11.8 billion, primarily from stronger-than-expected performance from our Windows business. Overall revenue declined 5%, and 4% in constant currency. |
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Our OEM business grew 5% this quarter. OEM Pro grew 6%, better than we anticipated, driven by an improving commercial PC market and enterprise demand for Windows 10. OEM non-Pro grew 5%, ahead of the consumer PC market, as our partner ecosystem continued to see growth and share gains in the Windows Premium device category. |
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Inventory levels remain normal. Windows commercial products and cloud services grew 5%, and 6% in constant currency, with double-digit annuity billings growth and install base expansion. |
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Patent licensing declined this quarter, driven by lower unit volume and revenue per unit. Our search business, ex-TAC, grew 10%, and 11% in constant currency, with improving profitability and continued growth in Bing from higher revenue per search and search volume. |
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In our Devices Business, revenue declined 35%, down 34% in constant currency. Phone revenue declined 81%. And we closed the sale of our feature phone business during this quarter. |
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Surface revenue was down 2%, and flat in constant currency, as we continue to phase out the Surface 3 device. Importantly, Surface gross margin dollars grew 6%, and 17% in constant currency, from increasing mix of Pro 4 and Book, replacing Surface 3 in the portfolio. |
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In gaming, revenue declined 3%, and 1% in constant currency, due to lower console hardware pricing and Xbox 360 volumes. In this holiday quarter, as Satya mentioned, we reached an all-time high of active Xbox Live users, which helped to drive our gaming software and services revenue to 18%, and 21% growth in constant currency. This marks our first billion-dollar quarter in digital transactions for our gaming business through our universal store across Windows 10 and Xbox One. |
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Segment gross margin percentage and dollars both increased this quarter. Gross margin dollars grew 3%, and 5% in constant currency. And gross margin percentage expanded, with the continued shift to higher-margin products and services. |
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Operating expenses declined by 12%, also 12% in constant currency, from lower phone expense, a one-time legal settlement and reduced marketing spend. Growth from Windows 10, the shift towards higher gross margin products and services, and devices and gaming, and disciplined operating expense management resulted in operating income growth of 33%, and 37% in constant currency. |
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Now back to our overall Company results. We invested $2.5 billion in capital expenditures, inclusive of capital leases, as we continue to support customer and partner demand across our commercial and consumer services. During the quarter, other income and expense was $186 million. |
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Our non-GAAP effective tax rate was 22%. We returned $6.5 billion to shareholders through stock repurchases and dividends, completing our prior $40 billion share repurchase program this quarter as we committed. |
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Now let's turn to the outlook. First, FX. We had originally expected FX rates to lessen going into H2; however, given current rates, we expect continued currency headwinds for the rest of the year. For Q3, we now expect about 1 point of negative impact on total revenue. |
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Within the segments, we anticipate about 2 points of negative FX impact in Productivity and Business Processes and Intelligent Cloud, and 1 point in More Personal Computing. In Q4, we anticipate about 2 points of negative FX impact on total revenue, 3 points in Productivity and Business Processes and Intelligent Cloud, and 1 point in More Personal Computing. |
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Second, our commercial business. We expect our commercial cloud services to continue to drive annuity growth, as we expand our install base, grow consumption and execute well on renewals. |
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We expect commercial unearned revenue of $20.2 billion to $20.4 billion, in line with historic seasonality. We continue to expect some volatility in our transactional business, due to macroeconomic conditions and the ongoing shift to the cloud. |
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Third, CapEx. We will continue to meet customer demand by expanding data center capacity, while driving efficiencies through new technologies. With the addition of LinkedIn, we expect our capital expenditures, including capital leases, to grow sequentially to support a broader portfolio. For the full year, including LinkedIn, we continue to expect the CapEx growth rate to be lower than last year. Let's turn to our outlook for the individual segments. |
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In Productivity and Business Processes, we expect revenue of $7.65 billion to $7.85 billion. This reflects a continued annuity shift to the cloud, with Office 365, Dynamics' double-digit billings growth, and LinkedIn revenue of approximately $950 million, adjusted for the impact of purchase accounting. |
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In Intelligent Cloud we expect $6.45 billion to $6.65 billion of revenue, with continued annuity strength and double-digit revenue growth across our server products and cloud services. |
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Enterprise Services. Revenue should decline again, due to a lower volume of Windows Server 2003 service agreements. |
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And, in More Personal Computing, we expect revenue of $9.05 billion to $9.35 billion. In our OEM business, we anticipate revenue growth will exceed the overall PC market. Continued growth in Pro, driven by enterprise momentum for Windows 10, should be roughly in line with the commercial PC market, with some additional benefit coming from the prior-year inventory build. Our OEM non-Pro performance should grow ahead of the market, due to strength in the Premium device category. |
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In search, we expect Bing's revenue growth ex-TAC to be similar to Q2. As a reminder, total search revenue growth will slow now that we've passed the one-year anniversary of our Yahoo deal and the associated change in revenue recognition. |
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And in gaming, we expect normal post-holiday trends, with declines in hardware console volumes and pricing, balanced by higher engagement, usage and transaction volume. In devices, we expect revenue to decline, driven primarily by phone. Surface revenue is expected to decline slightly, with our ongoing Surface portfolio mix shift to Pro 4 and Book. |
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We expect COGS of $8.35 billion to $8.45 billion, including approximately $400 million of LinkedIn expenses. LinkedIn COGS include approximately $220 million of amortization of acquired intangible assets. We expect operating expenses between $8.5 billion to $8.6 billion, with about $970 million from LinkedIn. The LinkedIn expense includes about $160 million for the amortization of acquired intangible assets. |
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For the full year, we now expect operating expenses of $33.1 billion to $33.3 billion, with about $2.3 billion from LinkedIn. The LinkedIn expense includes roughly $360 million of amortization of acquired intangible assets. |
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Other income and expense should be $150 million. We continue to expect our full-year non-GAAP tax rate to be 20%, plus or minus 2 points, with variability driven by the proportion of services revenue versus licensing revenue, the geographic mix of revenue, and the timing of equity vest. |
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Before moving to Q&A, I'd like to announce that we will hold a financial analyst briefing for the investor community in conjunction with our Build Developer Conference in May here in Seattle. We will share more details as we get closer to the date. Chris, let's move to Q&A. |
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Thanks, Amy. We'll now move to the Q&A portion of today's call. Operator, can you please repeat your instructions? |
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Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. |
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Excellent. Very nice quarter, guys. Thank you for taking the questions. |
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I wanted to ask a question about LinkedIn -- what our expectations should be for achieving revenues synergies on LinkedIn. It seems like there's a lot of real interesting things you can do with that asset, and combining with your own portfolio. And how should we think about the potential for achieving some expense synergies? |
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Obviously, there's a big cloud base that you could utilize under their assets, and Amy [being bullish] and very good at keeping expenses very well-managed. So, as we go forward past the [forward] quarter, how should we think about the timeframe for achieving those benefits? |
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Let me start, and then I'll turn it over to Amy to talk about the specifics of the synergies. The core focus, Keith, for us to start with, is to ensure that the innovation roadmap we have is all driving member value. The core ethos of LinkedIn needs to be about member first, how do we increase the engagement on the mobile flagship application, as well as the revamped desktop experience that is now rolling out. |
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We think that that's at the core of being able to, in fact, then have all of the revenue growth in their business solutions, which across higher markets sell. So, that's how I see it. It's a two-sided market, which starts with the help of membership and member engagement. |
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That is where the product roadmap, whether it's the integration with Office 365 or Dynamics 365 -- we'll be staying focused on it. We expect to see that rollout pretty rapidly. And as far as the guidance we've given at close, in terms of what to expect, for example, around EPS impact -- those are things that we'll stay committed to. And I'll let Amy add more to it. |
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Yes, I think Satya is correct. The guidance we gave at the time of the announcement in terms of EPS solution, excluding the impact of purchase accounting, being minimally dilutive, 1%, plus or minus, stands. Including the goal to achieve synergies where they make sense, as we continue to focus on growing the core business and keeping it incredibly healthy and realizing the revenue synergies that we know exist across the businesses. |
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As a reminder, the two biggest impacts of purchase accounting -- one, is it does impact the deferred revenue. So the in-quarter revenue in the guidance will look a bit lower due to that, as well as the amortization of intangible expenses, which also hit. We'll take care to give you insight into those so that you can continue to hold us against the goals we set for ourselves. |
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Thank you, Keith. We'll move to the next question, please, operator. |
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Thanks. There are a number of investors that have been wondering about the sales reorg that takes place February 1. Perhaps this is being worried and overstated. Can you just give us a sense -- are there changes that are happening that will take place February 1 that are different, or is this a minor tweak to the go-to-market going forward? |
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I can comment on it. I'm not particularly sure exactly what is happening on February 1. |
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But, I would say the overall change that we're going through -- and this is been ongoing for, I would say, the last multiple years -- is transforming our field engagement model, where we are putting a lot more technical depth in the front line sellers so that they can engage. Whether it's data specialists, cloud specialists, security specialists, or even productivity specialists. Because it's super important for us in this phase, when people are looking for solutions to help them digitally transform, for us to have a very fundamentally different type of capability in terms of our sales. |
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And I think, Brent, in terms of there being a date -- or a particular date -- this is something, to Satya's point, we've been doing in a step function improvement over time for the past couple years. And we'll continue to do it. |
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Great. Thank you very much. Amy, you noted a material improvement in Azure margins this quarter. I was just wondering if you could share with us -- given how quickly revenue is growing in this area, how fast can we see margins ramp, which obviously were negative. |
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Thanks, Heather. Let me start by saying, we really do think about and talk about our cloud as containing all of the components. From the IS layer to the platform layer to the SaaS layer. You'll hear us talk about Dynamics 365, Office 36t, as well as our Azure Core and Premium services. |
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Thank you. Amy, I'm going to ask another question on gross margins, but this time at the Microsoft level. Your prior guidance was for ex-LinkedIn FY17 gross margins to be down 100 basis points. So the quarter you just posted gross margins ex-LinkedIn were actually up. And if I ran the math accurately, it looks like for your March quarter, ex-LinkedIn you're expecting gross margins to be about flat. |
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It feels like you are outperforming the core Microsoft gross margin guidance you gave before. Are you sticking with the down 100, or has that improved? And if it has, what are the one or two biggest drivers of the gross margins feeling a little bit better, ex-LinkedIn? Thank you. |
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Thanks, Karl. I am sticking with it being about 1 point. That is the guidance we gave and, even inclusive of LinkedIn, I continue to believe it is about 1 point. So, in some ways I guess you could say it implies a slightly better at the Company level, if that's how you're thinking about it. |
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Really Karl, what can drive that, in addition to the overall gross margin improvement we talk about in the cloud, it's also really the strength we see in our Windows business. And I mean that, not just in our OEM business, but also across the commercial business for Windows. That tends to have a very good margin profile. |
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That's also good margin business for us that looks quite different than the hardware profile. So, all of those can impact it, Karl, as we look through the rest of the year. But in general, inclusive of LinkedIn, I'm still around 100 BPS. |
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Thank you. Congrats on the strong quarter and thanks for taking the question. So, Amy, the on-premise server and tools business grew 5%, 7% in constant currency. It was obviously helped by Windows Server 2016, Sequel Server 2016. |
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Thanks, Mark. Let me start by saying it's why we tend to focus all up at that server products and services KPI being double digits. Generally, an easier way for us to talk about it all up between Azure and the OnPrem business. |
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But let me talk a little bit about what impacted the transactional business this quarter. And then we can talk about how to think about it in Q3 and maybe going forward. We did, and we're encouraged by the customer reaction -- even our transactional customers -- to the security and management value prop, as well as the hybrid nature of our Sequel and Windows Server 2016 releases that have taken place this year. |
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That value prop is resonating. We saw some growth. I feel very good about that. And so I do think that can have an impact in H2. |
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You heard me talk a little bit about it. With the major currency changes we saw in Q2, we've also done some price adjustments between certain geos for us. It did pull forward a bit of revenue into Q2. |
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Hi. Thanks, Amy. I'm wondering if you could talk about -- we're still seeing the majority, or really all the growth, in operating profits come from MPC in the year-over-year basis. |
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Right. I would say, actually, we've also seen some operating income growth in our PBP segment this quarter, up in constant currency to 7% before LinkedIn. I do want to say some of that impact is absolutely landing, as well as growth. |
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We increased hiring, and we invested in direct customer acquisition costs, and we invested in many of the things Satya just talked about in terms of technical capabilities in our sales force. We're starting to see the benefit of that already in our top line numbers. |
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That 12% or 14% in the server product and services KPI is a very good number. And I continue to expect that we'll see growth in revenue as those resources both get hired, and get up to speed, and add value at accounts. |
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A lot of that account value, frankly, Walter, today is coming in the form of consumed revenue. Consumed revenue is actually a great leading indicator for what we expect our Azure growth going forward to be. And so some of the confidence that we have in the transition of that investment in operating expense and to even more revenue growth comes from seeing the consumed revenue trend that we're seeing today, as well as the pipeline of projects and customers that we have. |
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I do think about that being an 18-month investment we've been making. It's starting to pivot to consumed. It will then land as billings, and ultimately in RP&L as GAAP revenue in quarter off the balance sheet. |
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And I think Amy described it well in answering the very specific technical question of segment reporting and the margins in it. But architecturally, some of the examples are used are about the digital estate that actually doesn't start with Azure. In many cases, it starts with advanced [set] protection of Windows 10 estate, and then how does that relate to Office 365? How does that relate to Azure Active Directory? |
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Yes. Thank you. Satya. I'm wondering what you think would be required to extend the hyper growth trajectory for Azure into the future. For example, are there incremental waves of activity on the horizon that you would tie to Tier 1 workloads, or large data center migrations, or serverless usage which would enable that? |
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Let me start. Overall, I think some of the trends that you've referenced, whether it is Tier 1 workloads, or serverless, or even complete data center migrations, all of that is happening. |
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We're seeing even interesting use cases of Azure Functions, which is completely serverless. In fact, you can even think of it as a price cut for anybody who cares about using consum -- being very, very smart about cloud consumption going serverless is something that we, in fact, advocate. Across the board, I feel we have the right mix of IaaS, PaaS, SaaS, and full user SaaS services, like Azure Active Directory, which gives us the right mix to be able to even have the right margins long-term. |
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We're not concentrated in any one layer of the stack, which is something we do by design. Because our vision has always been that we want to, of course, offer all of these layers, and customers will choose, depending on their needs and their scenarios. And we're now seeing even a single customer estate spanning all of these. |
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And, Mark, I'm not sure I want to get into our pricing theory on the call on a go-forward basis in terms of whether or not we match competitors. But what I would say, is really fundamentally related to Satya's point around differentiation of the entire stack and what customers are doing in their digital estate. And the ability to earn margin through that is actually more impactful than whether or not you match pricing at the core. |
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Hi. Congrats on finishing up a great quarter, as well. One for you, Amy, one for you, Satya. |
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One, Amy, when I look at your comments on gross margin, clearly you're not in a position to break out Azure-only gross margin. But I'm wondering if you could take -- come past your commercial cloud targets were about $20 billion. |
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So if I take what I believe could be a rough split between Azure versus the SaaS segment and look at the best (abrate) companies, I could get to about 70%, 75% gross margin when you hit your targets. Curious what you think about that. Is that too aggressive, or within the ballpark? |
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Let me start with the second part, and then you can add. Kash, the way I think about it is, even in the client server era, we had tough competition. We had Oracle, we had VMware, and we had many other players we competed with and I grew up competing with. |
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We want to uniquely think about what are the things that we can do to differentiate and add value to our customers' digital estate in the cloud in that context. And that's where, if you will, our fair share will come from -- by competing hard where we have to, but also mostly thinking about differentiation. |
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And in terms of, is there a long-term gross margin cloud number that is industry-leading, I think right now there's a benchmark in the SaaS community that's probably around the number you talked about in terms of more SaaS applications. And then as you go down through the layers from PaaS to IaaS, that margin declines, obviously, much as it did when that was run as a hardware solution. |
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Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to focus back in on Office 365 on the commercial front. You have another strong quarter of revenue growth, obviously at 49% constant currency, but it continues to meaningfully outpace the seat growth, which is still strong, but 37%. |
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That commentary that you all are giving about premium mix in the past -- two questions here. First, to Satya, when you think about where we are in the progression -- call it up to E5, so to speak, or E3. How do you think this plays out? And how do you think about the mix of unit growth versus that premium mix and translating it to revenue? |
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Yes, I can start. On the product side, we think of actually three things which we're trying to do on a continuous basis in Office 365. First, even for the customers already in Office 365 at any given licensing level, we focus quite a bit on their increased usage and intensity. |
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So, for example, one of the comments I made in my remarks was, for example SharePoint with PowerApps and Flow. That's, to us, the best way for us to keep having that recurring value. And so we focus quite a bit on adding additional value, even to the existing licensing levels and increasing intensity of usage. |
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Then, things like, what we're doing to even go to non-knowledge workers, audiences in retail or manufacturing, with some of the things that we're doing with staff scheduling, for example. That's a way to expand seats, even beyond what is the traditional knowledge worker. Of course, we have a significant more opportunity in small- and medium-sized businesses, although we have good, healthy growth there. |
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And to your point on where we are and what's driving that delta and its consistency, frankly over time. Actually, still, the biggest impact is from the transition to E3. The transitions take time. |
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You're just starting to see some of the impact from E5. We're excited about all the customers in trial and already starting to use the value, whether it's security, increasingly analytics, and ultimately voice. But really, from an ARPU perspective, the biggest driver continues to be the transition to E3. |
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Thanks so much, and congratulations from me, as well. Two questions. One for Amy first. |
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When we look at CapEx, it actually declines year over year ex capital leases, but even with capital leases, the growth rate decelerated. And for the full year, it's obviously a pretty wide range, roughly 0% to 40% growth. I'm just curious, Amy, with LinkedIn, have you made any changes to your CapEx assumptions for core Microsoft? |
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Sure. Let me first comment on that I've said it will be lower than it was previously. I certainly would help you in that number and say a little lower. Just so that you're getting into something closer -- I realize 0% to 40% is not as helpful. |
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Thanks for squeezing me in, and congratulations, as well. I wanted to ask on Windows 10 -- Satya, you talked about at the beginning of that [cast] is trying to adopt it. And you mentioned pretty large ones already. |
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Yes, I think the overall adoption cycle of Windows 10 in the enterprise is perhaps the best that we've seen in the enterprise for any new release of Windows. And primarily driven by security and manageability of the new Windows and that's what has been the driver. |
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But in addition to that, I must say there are two other things that are increasingly becoming fairly relevant in the adoption cycle, which is moving to both Office 365 and Windows 10 and getting essentially to this new frontier for productivity, which is an always up-to-date operating system, which is secure, and an always up-to-date office experience that is a fast service. We are increasingly seeing that resonate, not just in small business and high tech industry, as it has been in the past, but now even in the regulated parts of the enterprise. So we are very excited about that. |
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Thank you, Raimo. That wraps up the Q&A portion of today's earnings call. We look forward to seeing many of you in the coming months at various investor conferences. For those unable to attend in person, the events will be webcast, and you can follow our comments on the Microsoft Investor Relations website. Please contact us if you need any additional details, and thank you for joining us today. |
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