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Opinions? |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Yugoslavia |
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>>180612520 |
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Language? |
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>>180612599 |
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How can a language be advanced? |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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West slavic languages are the only ones using latters instead of some stupid runes |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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>most advanced |
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No such thing, they all evolved equally long in their respective direction like all other languages. Some have features others don't and vice-versa. |
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Don't listen to the Slovene autist if he starts posting in this thread. |
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>>180612828 |
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Maybe he means most complex? Would that be proto slavic maybe? |
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>>180612828 |
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>Don't listen to the Slovene autist if he starts posting in this thread. |
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inb4 |
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>muh complex phonetics |
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Of course the language that has made the greatest contribution to world science, history and the arts is Russian. |
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The obvious logic is that the more often language interacts with progress for humanity, the more 'advanced' it is. |
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>>180612799 |
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Having more words, strong literature, more preserved etc you name it. |
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>>180612863 |
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This makas sense |
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>>180613032 |
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>having more words |
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We have like 4 words for "tomato". |
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But on a serious note, some words do have a lot of synonyms because every part of our country was under a different empire or kingdom for centuries so in some cases there is a German, Italian, Hungarian, Ottoman or Slavic word for one thing and most of them are still being used. Some are only understood by speakers of specific dialects but others are known throughout the country. |
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The word for "towel", on the coast we use "šugaman" from Venetian, our standard word is "ručnik" and there is also an Ottoman word widespread in Bosnia (and Serbia?) that I don't know myself (if we count Serbo-Croatian as one language) |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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No language is more of less 'advanced' than some other language. |
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>>180612828 |
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Tell me about sloven enautist |
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West Slavic languages. With Bulgarian/Macedonian being English/German-tier (ooga-booga) |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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The best living standard has Slovenia so I vote for Slovenian |
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>>180613795 |
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One question: do you make 'ook ook' sounds or at least attempt to swing from a tree branch every time you use the Polish forumlation 'X to Y'? |
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>>180612828 |
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spotted the unadvanced language |
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>>180613032 |
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>Having more words, strong literature, more preserved etc you name it |
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What about grammar? Because when it comes to grammar, Polish can be a real pain in the ass with its seven cases, five genders, singulars, plurals and prepositions. |
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>>180613032 |
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>strong literature |
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1. Russian |
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2. Polish |
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3. ??? |
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>>180614192 |
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Sure, but if we care about grammar only then polish is the most advanced. But do general public use it properly? |
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Lithuanian and Latvian |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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>What is the most advanced slavic language? |
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dog barks are far more advanced than any slavic language |
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You don't have grammar cases though |
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>>180614938 |
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>Albanian/Hungarian/Romanian/Baltic flag starts shitting on Slavs and preaching how superior they are |
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>>180614938 |
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>t. Bulgar rape baby |
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>>180615060 |
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Yeah, like, Slavs haven't conquered half of Europe and Asia lol |
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>>180614724 |
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>polish literature |
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LMAO |
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The Original one, Macedonian from Solun and Ohrid area |
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none |
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all shit |
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If we talk about literature or the history of literature, grammar, dictionaries, and maybe even about dialects, Croatia itself is more significant and richer than all the other southern Slavs combined. Similar to Croatian football vs others, that's the difference. Czechs have better literature than Poles. Russians are number 1 in the world. |
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>>180615395 |
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I mean it's only the witcher which is whatever but that still puts them ahead of every other slav with nothing. Russia is obviously the best for literature. |
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>>180614724 |
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3. Czech |
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>>180617128 |
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I'm pretty sure he wrote only in German |
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>>180613616 |
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>Ottoman word widespread in Bosnia (and Serbia? |
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Peškir is common around Zagreb. |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Polish |
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>>180614790 |
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Every time I read a book in Polish and use Wiktionary for unfamiliar words I am astounded by the amount of overly specific verbs they have |
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>>180617166 |
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and was jewish |
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>>180617128 |
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wrong pic |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Don't know shit about West and East Slavic so I'll just go with Croatian, our three dialects ever got ISO codes as three separate languages a year or two ago. I have a feeling that Polish only looks complicated because of the shitty orthography. Macedonian is the Italian of Slavic languages and is the simplest one around. |
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>>180617947 |
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>I have a feeling that Polish only looks complicated because of the shitty orthography |
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Kek. Polish has 7 cases and 5 genders and the vocabulary is often insanely specific. |
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>>180618036 |
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not that impressive, but the orthography really is shitty. |
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>>180618105 |
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How? Many languages use digraphs. What's the problem? It's a phonemic language so the orthography is inherently better than English's |
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>>180618133 |
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>Many languages use digraphs |
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Doesn't make it any good. |
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>>180618203 |
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Digraphs are good actually. |
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>>180618237 |
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ur wrong |
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>>180618269 |
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Your language looks ugly and African tier because of the lack of them |
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>>180617577 |
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>overly specific verbs |
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Examples of which ones caught your eye? |
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>>180618133 |
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One of the most used words in English is not written as "przepraszam". Adding 3-4 more letters to their alphabet could have saved their publishing houses so much money that it is insane. |
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>>180618298 |
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polish doesn't even look like a real language because of their digraphs |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Psyop thread made to pin Slavs against each other |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Russian hands down |
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>>180618353 |
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we know |
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russian is caveman tier right behind bulgarian |
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everyone should just speak English, what's the point of making kids learn all these languages when they all end up having to use English in their professional and often social life anyway |
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At least switch from "v" to "w", for fuck's sake. |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Go to plebbit and discuss there. This is a frog posting board |
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I don't consider w to be real letter. |
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>>180618327 |
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>TWO digraphs in one word? my brain isn't wrinkly enough for this |
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The last couple of ones I saw were pogubić (to lose many things) and zgryźć (to crush by biting) and zagryźć (to bite someone to death) |
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prefixes add a lot of specific meanings to verbs I can find a lot of more specific verbs by just adding prefixes (picrel) |
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>>180618327 |
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>English |
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THE NAME OF THE LANGUAGE ITSELF HAS TWO DIGRAPHS |
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OH NO NO NO NO NO NO |
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>>180618327 |
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>could have saved their publishing houses so much money |
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yikes |
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literal bugman reasoning |
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>Zagreb |
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I did mention Bosnia |
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>>180618353 |
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Meds. Now. |
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>>180614938 |
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How do you say "yes" in Romanian? |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Slovene just because we have the Dual and can specify things more |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Guy with a degree in linguistics here. |
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Well, I don't know what ya mean by "the most advanced" but maybe want to know which Slavic language is the most complex or which is the closest to Proto-Slavic/ the most innovative vice verca. |
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1) My bet is that for all non-native speakers of Slavic languages Russian is perhaps the easiest. First of all, phonetics is very simple, all vowels in the standard Russian language are of the same length, there are no diphthongs, and Russian is a more or less literary language, that is, the statement that everything is written as it is heard is basically true for it. Here we should add a ton of Latin, Greek and French borrowings in scientific and related to art and politics vocabulary, which has already become international. The only real difficulty in Russian is the lack of fixed stress and the fact that this language is very context sensitive due to its rich vocabulary and morphology. The only real difficulty in Russian is the lack of fixed stress and the fact that this language is very context sensitive due to its rich vocabulary and morphology. all this is largely true for the Belarusian and Ukrainian. Bulgarian has not so complicated grammar but the lexicon is almost exclusively of Slavic origin, so he takes the second place I guess. All other languages have elaborate phonetics and grammar for non-native speakers of Slavic languages. But in Polish there are a lot more borrowings among the basic vocabulary, which can help a little. Serbo-Croatian also has a musical stress in addition, which is also challenging |
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>>180618522 |
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Why would you use double v instead of single v every single time? It doesn't make sense |
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Vvarszavva |
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>>180613032 |
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By that logic Arabic is the most advanced language |
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>>180621162 |
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2)if you're talking about archaism / innovation, then in terms of grammar it's hard to say. I would venture to suggest that Czech in this sense is the closest to Proto-Slavic, there are many, for example, verb forms that are not found in other Slavic languages. But Slovene has a dual number, it is the only Slavic language that has retained it. With phonetics, everything is even more complicated, Serbo-Croatian is the only one that has retained the musical character of the stress of the Proto-Slavic language, but on the other hand, Russian is the most archaic in the sense that it seems that in 80% of words of Slavic origin it retained the stress on the same syllable as 1500 years ago . As for phonetics, then probably Russian and Serbo-Croatian. In terms of vocabulary, I think Bulgarian |
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>>180621201 |
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Yes, and? |
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>>180621201 |
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It kinda is if we're being relatively objective. |
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Stanislaw Lem is an excellent writer. I also heard people commend Boleslaw Prus. |
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>>180621208 |
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>I would venture to suggest that Czech in this sense is the closest to Proto-Slavic, there are many, for example, verb forms that are not found in other Slavic languages. |
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Lots of those archaic features are archaisms in Czech too, but since Literary Czech standard is very conservative. |
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Transgeressives (přechodníky), for example aren't used at all anymore. |
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Polish, Belarussian and Ukrainian are backwards as fuck compare to Russian or even Bulgarian. |
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These Niggers don’t even use civilized names for months, and really do be saying “Frozen” instead of “January”. Dumb villagers |
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>>180622213 |
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>uses julian calendar |
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We're the least advanced of the Baltic languages, being East Balts. This thread is about South Balts, who migrated from the Belarusian swamps in the 400s AD and polluted their languages with whatever they found along the way. |
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>>180622213 |
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nigga you think you are civilized because you are using names of the months from foreign language instead your own. this has to be bait |
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>>180622213 |
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>using international words for months |
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globohomo brainwashed you |
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>>180622443 |
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Some things just show that ur countries were never touched by civilization and that’s one of these things |
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Czech language generated loanwords in an influential language such as English, like pistol, robot and howitzer, so probably that one. |
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>>180622797 |
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could you please explain reasoning behind your statement? |
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ALL slavs speak bastardized versions of Bulgarian since Old church slavonic is Bulgarian. Then some also use our script. Simple as gg |
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When you're a jew it doesn't matter where you originally hail from or in what language you wrote in. |
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You carry and display the 'jewness' throughout your corpus anyway. |
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WE WAS KANGS OF FUNNY TALK |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Polish easy. It's a defensive language extremely hard to learn. The poles made it so complex and hard to understand anyone trying to invade would take forever to learn ir |
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Easily |
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You say “samohod” or literally “ughh the thing uhhh that goes by itself ohh hahaha” instead of proper scientific name of “automobile” that we say |
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>>180623203 |
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You forgot to add the Green in your flag Bulgarian brother |
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>>180623242 |
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Well, according to the same logic, the Russian language is also inferior. We have a caмoкaт (absolutely the same story here, something that rides, and the Poles have a scooter). And, btw, in Polish there are just more Latinisms among the most commonly used vocabulary. For example, we have вoпpoc, and they have kwestia, we have peшeниe, and they have decyzja |
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>kwestia |
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Axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa |
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>>180623242 |
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>automobile |
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literally meaning self movable (from french) |
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>samochód |
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literally meaning self movable in polish |
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at this point you can just drop russian for english as current lingua franca of science... |
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>russian |
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>straightforward phonetic |
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Not at all. |
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пoжap, гocпoдин, вoдa, мecтo, no strict rule about how 'o' should be pronounced. Never mind 'e' which could sometimes be close to э and sometimes ye or je. Same problem with я if we're being honest. |
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>kwestia |
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Yeah, it's retatded but we have alternate Slavic versions of these words. |
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>>180623242 |
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>“ughh the thing uhhh that goes by itself ohh hahaha” |
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>not literally automobile but slavic |
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>>180621208 |
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>Serbo-Croatian is the only one that has retained the musical character of the stress of the Proto-Slavic language |
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> but on the other hand, Russian is the most archaic in the sense that it seems that in 80% of words of Slavic origin it retained the stress on the same syllable as 1500 years ago |
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>>180624931 |
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The word is retarded in both versions, using some variation of "vůz/vozidlo" would be ideal. |
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>>180623544 |
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Mixing in Latin words sounds incredibly larpy in Czech. |
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>>180625721 |
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we have wóz for horse cart (how do you call these in czech?) but it is used as slang for the car as well. but wozidło sounds just hillarious xD |
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>>180625721 |
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>vozidlo |
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I mentioned this before, but Polish medical vocabulary is for some reason quite purist. |
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rozpoznanie (disgnosis) |
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objaw (symptom) |
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zespół (syndrome) |
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zabieg (procedure) |
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znieczulenie (anesthesia) |
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przeszczep (transplantation) |
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szczepionka (vaccine) |
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uczulenie (alergy) |
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zakażenie (infection) |
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omam (hallucination) |
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narząd (organ) |
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śpiączka (coma) |
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przychodnia (clinic) |
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odwyk (rehab) |
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przewlekły (chronic) |
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ropień (abscess) |
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toczeń (lupus) |
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padaczka (epilepsy) |
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stulejka (phimosis) |
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kiła (syphilis) |
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odwodnienie (dehydratace) |
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tętniak (aneurysm) |
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rzucawka (eclampsia) |
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biegunka (diarrhea) |
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białaczka (leukemia) |
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żółtaczka (jaundice/icterus) |
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czerwonka (dysentery) |
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cukrzyca (diabetes) |
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niedokrwistość (anemia) |
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ziarniniak (granuloma) |
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chłoniak (lymphoma) |
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wąglik (anthrax) |
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wągrzyca (cysticercosis) |
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węgorczyca (strongyloidiasis) |
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gorączka (fever) |
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gruźlica (tuberculosis) |
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trąd (leprosy) |
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zakrzepica (thrombosis) |
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kostniakomięsak (osteosarcoma) |
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naczyniak (hemangioma) |
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bąblowica (echinococcosis) |
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opryszczka (herpes) |
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obrzęk (edema) |
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oponiak (meningioma) |
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wyrostek (appendix) |
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drożdżyca (candidiasis) |
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krętkowice (leptospirosis) |
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jamistość rdzenia (syringomyelia) |
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rzeżączka (gonorrhea) |
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przecinkowiec (vibrio) |
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czerniak (melanoma) |
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pełzakowica (amoebiasis) |
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śluzak (myxoma) |
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zator (embolism) |
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zakrzep (thrombus) |
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tętno (pulse) |
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zgaga (pyrosis) |
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wstrząs (shock) |
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wodogłowie (hydrocephalus) |
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nadciśnienie (hypertension) |
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krwotok (hemorrhage) |
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we wuz znachors |
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>>180626181 |
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>vozidlo means vehicle |
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>>180618682 |
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Desu prefixes feel natural to understand. I can't imagine what it takes to get the hang of them for a non-Slav. |
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>>180627004 |
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interesting, I don't think there are any words derived this way in Czech. The closest would be 'pochod' but that means march. |
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>>180627094 |
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I don't think it'd be that hard if somebody managed to get the hang of the grammatical aspect thing. |
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>>180627103 |
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"pochód" also means march in Polish, but we use "marsz" more often. |
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>>180627333 |
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In Czech, you'd use marš only if you had some stylistic reason for it. |
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>>180627467 |
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>marš |
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Your military command for march is "vpřed", right? |
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What does "advanced" mean? |
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Supposedly Russian has very simple grug-like grammar but that means it's actually more streamlined and easier to learn |
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Meanwhile Polish is considered to have very difficult grammar that makes it harder to learn and understand |
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So maybe advanced isn't necessarily good? |
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>>180627653 |
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yes, but I prefer 'hrrr na ně' |
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You could also use marš! for that, but it also carries old-timey austrohungarian feel with it, something you'd hear in Švejk. |
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>>180627966 |
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The grammar of Slavic languages is same for most part, with Bulgarian and Macedonian being exceptions. |
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>>180618682 |
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Actually, as the greatest Polish linguist Prof. Miodek said |
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>Polish is not really a hard language, execept for numerals |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Russian. Though it doesn't matter. We must destroy Russia anyway. |
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>>180628973 |
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what's with ur numerals? |
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Actually now that I think about it, the longest Czech word is based on numeral. |
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>>180629585 |
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nejnedevětadevadesáteroroznásobovávatelnějšími |
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>>180629396 |
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Jedna książka - one book |
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Dwie książki - two books |
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Trzy książki - three books |
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... |
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Pięć książek - five books |
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Sto piędziesięcioro czworo dzieci - hundred and fifty children |
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Etc. etc. |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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A tie between Polish and Slovene. Polish preserved its nasal vowels, Slovene preserved dual grammatical numbers. |
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FACT: Polish-Slovene creole would be the most advanced language in the world |
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>>180629731 |
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Odna knyžka |
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Dvi knyžky |
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Try knyžky |
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... |
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Pjať knyžok |
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Sto pjaťdeśat čotyry dytyny |
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It's works basically the same in most Slavic languages I guess |
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>>180612828 |
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>Don't listen to the Slovene autist if he starts posting in this thread. |
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Disclaimers like this one are a clear sign of fear and cope |
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>>180629898 |
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>Szcszczszczszczcszszczczsczc |
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>>180629978 |
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You must be retarded if you can't understand Polish spelling as a Slavic language speaker |
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>>180629731 |
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Seems ok, but I see how someone might get confused with plurar 'one'. |
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Also, shouldn't 'Sto piędziesięcioro czworo dzieci' translate to 154 of four childern? |
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>>180630118 |
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Polish is only Slavic language that uses spelling like this. |
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>>180630118 |
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Even here we got so many poles everyone can pronounce their names, though we probably butcher it |
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>>180630118 |
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I can understand it, I just get an aneurysm every time I try to read it |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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probably polish it has more cases than russian and their sounds need like 5 extra letters if you try to translate them into cyrillic |
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these are not good things btw |
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>>180614724 |
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>2. Polish |
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nobody knows polish literature, completely irrelevant |
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>>180629731 |
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Actually, reading through the article, I think Czech can one-up you. |
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>>180630194 |
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Yes but it's not hard at all if you just look at it longer than a few seconds |
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The only problem is the nasal sounds, but they do not interfere in understanding written Polish at all |
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cz - č |
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rz - ř |
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>>180621190 |
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Polish borrowed the practice from German and also its orthography is old enough to where u and v were still the same letter so it made sense. |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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probably polish cause they are retarded and fucked up the writing of it |
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>>180614905 |
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I hate articles, articles can go fuck themselves |
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total article death |
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>>180630145 |
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My bad |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Bulgarian sounds like a Southern Romanian speaking Russian, so to my ears it sounds gypsy. Polish is like Czech but with retarded spelling. |
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Russian sounds bad, but Ukrainian is even worse. With its guttural sounds, it is for Russian what Dutch is for German. |
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I personally like Czech and Serbian. |
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>>180615966 |
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I thought we're talking about classic literature, not modern fantasyshit |
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>>180621500 |
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It's funny how only Russians seem to know actual Polish literature |
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>>180630540 |
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Aren't ten/ta/to also articles? But, I mean definite |
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>>180622213 |
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>“Frozen” |
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soul |
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>“January” |
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souless |
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>>180630796 |
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We were thought about quo vadis in school, but that's about it. |
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>>180630826 |
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Not, really, they're called demonstratives. |
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They can mark definitiveness, but they're not mandatory, like articles are. |
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>>180630765 |
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>guttural sounds bad |
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>but I like Czech |
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wtf |
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>>180623242 |
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>the thing uhhh that goes by itself |
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That's literally what automobile means |
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Are you being retarded on purpose? |
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>>180631064 |
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>Czech |
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>guttural |
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wtf |
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>>180630765 |
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Bulgarian sounds nothing like Russian |
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And if one likes Serbian then one would also like Bulgarian since it's relatively similar |
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>>180631195 |
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ch, h and 'ráz' |
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are 'gutural' sounds. |
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>>180625812 |
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Mixing in Latin words was one of main pillars of larpy Sarmatian nobility culture, which in turn is one of the main pillars of modern Polish culture. |
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>>180622213 |
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>>180630887 |
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Well, technically we have two Latin-based months: marzec (March) and maj (May). Would be cool if we ditched them and replaced them with brzezień and trawień, but they're too rooted in our language already. Plus, brzezień kinda sounds like wrzesień and this may cause some confusion and misunderstandings. |
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>>180631311 |
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Ukrainian isn't guttural either, he means the ɦ sound instead of g |
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>>180631320 |
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We were Romans i coś tam |
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We even call our country after them: RES PVBLICA |
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Which was based because most of Roman conquest campaigns took place in the times of the republic |
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>>180631497 |
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yeah, we have that in Czech too. |
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>>180629731 |
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>Sto pięćdziesięcioro czworo dzieci - hundred and fifty children |
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hundred and fifty four, dummy |
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>>180631320 |
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>>180631641 |
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Szlachta was basically a bunch of Roman-wannabes. They loved Latin more than Polish and they preferred to speak it instead. |
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Not many know this, but in the 19th century Latin loanwords were actually strongly criticized. But we had no time for purism. We were more focused on the unification of Polish and we fought against linguistic differences between partitions. The "inteligencja" language was preserved on which the literary Polish was based on, thus we have so many Latin loanwords today. |
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>>180629978 |
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>is that a... digraph???? different than the english ones???? AAAAAA IM GOING INSANE RUSSIA LIBERATE ME |
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>>180630765 |
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Many westerners say that Ukrainian is apparently a beautiful language, on par with French even. |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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the ones that don't have cases |
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>>180631932 |
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To be precise: 5806 loanwords from latin |
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Source: |
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https://sjp.pwn.pl/poradnia/haslo/ile-zapozyczen-w-polszczyznie;11958.html |
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>>180632367 |
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Bulgarian has vocative. |
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>>180632798 |
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>angielski |
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wtf Poles talk to Angels? |
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>>180622797 |
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Is it possible to be this stupid? The center of civilization for over a thousand years was the Mediterranean, Croats settled in the very center of the failed empire, our cities were built on the ruins of ancient cities. The official language in Croatia was Latin until less than 200 years ago. However, we preserved our language and of course we use our names for the months. On the other hand, Russia is a frozen shithole on the periphery of the continent. With that population and those resources, you are the ones who should rule the world. If we had those numbers, we would have screwed America 50 years ago. And you, you have the anti mida touch: everything you touch turns into shit. |
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>>180632798 |
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>5806 loanwords from latin |
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But how many of them are still in use? Because, e.g. "wiktoria" definitely isn't common as it was 300-400 years ago and we use "zwycięstwo" pretty much all the time. |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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>most advanced |
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What does that mean? |
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I think English is the supreme language anyway. |
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>>180632978 |
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>On the other hand, Russia is a frozen shithole on the periphery of the continent. |
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But it was east Slavs who were truly blessed by Romans after our vikangz bashed their heads into the walls of Tsargrad TWICE while their army was absent. Thus your opinion doesn't count, teehee. |
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>>180632000 |
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>[] |
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>[] |
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>[X] |
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>>180612863 |
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>Would that be proto slavic maybe? |
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By virtue of having all singular, dual and plural, yes. However it isn't a contemporary. |
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>>180622213 |
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Behold |
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>Styczeń |
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>Luty |
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>Marzec |
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>Kwiecień |
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>Maj |
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>Czerwiec |
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>Sierpień |
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>Wrzesień |
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>Październik |
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>Listopad |
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>Grudzień |
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Literally fuckin radiating with S O V L |
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>>180637844 |
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>>Marzec |
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>>Maj |
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>SOVL |
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no |
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>>180621162 |
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I don’t know any Slavic languages but doesn’t Russian have very high orthographic depth? |
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>>180622213 |
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>call other langages backwards |
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>don't even use verb "is" in a maner every civilized language does |
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>borrow every month name from fucking latin |
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>>180623242 |
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>russoid thinks the scientific name of a car is literally "machine" |
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>has a problem with "samochód" and thinks it's dumb because "it doesn't walk on it's own", while he doesn't even mind calling airplanes "samolyot" which literally means "flies on it's own" in russian |
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I swear russians are something else. |
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>>180623544 |
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Meanwhile: |
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>we have sklep, you have magazin |
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>we have samochód, you have mashina |
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>we have nazwisko, you have familya |
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>we have żołnierz, you have soldat |
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>>180623825 |
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There was a shift in pronunciation. Back then they were pronounced as "o", the spelling changed but the written language has remained the same. They could have fixed it during the language reform, but commies didn't bother with it. |
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>>180639732 |
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>>we have żołnierz, you have soldat |
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Both "soldat" and "żołnierz" come from Latin, though. If we want to better in this regard, we should use "wojak" just like Czechs do. |
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He also has a good point about the words he mentioned (kwestia, decyzja). We use these words almost everyday. |
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>>180639644 |
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>>180622213 |
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oh and btw, word "fourty" in russian comes from a bunch of 40 sable pelts called "sorok" and |
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"sorok sorakov" is a phrase to describe an unimaginably large quantity, which literally means "fourty fourties", so for Russians "1600" is totally abstract. |
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>>180639644 |
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>>don't even use verb "is" in a maner every civilized language does |
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Why use unnecessary words? "I am a man" and "I man" convey the same meaning. |
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When you keep unneeded words because "muh tradition" you end up with shit like English and its "John had had had had" abomination of constructions. |
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>>180639923 |
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Whatever, they have multiple loanwords in russian as well. Like calling an apartment "kvartira", a room "komnata" etc. |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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When it comes to literature, no Slavic language even comes close to Russian |
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>>180640174 |
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>Why use unnecessary words? |
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To not sound like a caveman |
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>I man |
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lmao |
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>>180640301 |
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There are more Russians than all other Slavs combined so it's kind of unfair comparison. Especially if we include all the national minorities who wrote in Russian. |
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>>180640393 |
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Yeah the same is true with Arabic but I don't really see how what you said is relevant |
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>Slavic language |
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>advanced |
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but seriously, it's gotta be Slovene. |
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>>180640301 |
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>I am a huge christfag but I am also...LE SAD! |
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There, I just summed up all Russian literature for anyone interested in it ITT. |
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>>180640480 |
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Tolstoy was Muslim THOUGH |
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and Gorkiy was Atheist THOUGH |
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>>180640480 |
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>I've only read Dostoevsky and Tolstoy and I can make expert judgements on the whole of Russian literature |
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>>180640457 |
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>slovene |
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please say youre joking |
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>>180640536 |
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He isn't even right on Tolstoy lol |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RUsY_l1svM [Embed] |
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>>180640543 |
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Why do think that? |
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дo cвидaния, дpyг мoй, дo cвидaния |
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>>180640621 |
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please tell me about some Slovenian authors who even rival Russian authors like Pushkin, Gogol, Gorkiy, Tolstoy or Dostoevsky |
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>>180640692 |
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idk about that but the literary Slovene of today is a really refined and pleasant language |
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>>180640740 |
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alright buddy |
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>>180640795 |
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sorry, but I don't care much for moralfaggotry and christfaggotry, which is basically what most literature is at the end of the day. Just not interested in some dude who can't say 'I am' talking about his love of Hebrew scripture for 1000 pages. |
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>Most advanced |
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>Slavic |
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Like saying "best way to get eyes plucked out" |
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>>180640909 |
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Refer to >>180640515 |
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>>180640975 |
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don't be rude |
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>>180612828 |
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the primitive fears the advanced phonetics |
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>>180629731 |
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I'm so glad things played out for English to be the lingua franca that's fucking retarded |
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>>180618327 |
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In cirillic it's written пшeпpaшaм. One sound, one letter. What an ugly language by the way. |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Slovency da slovaki, menäjte svoi flagi |
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>>180615060 |
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Most slavic languages sound much harsher than Romanian and Albanian (Kosovar gheg dialect not included). I have no idea about baltic languages. I agree that Huns shouldn't talk too much. |
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>>180619827 |
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How do you say "yes" in latin? |
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>>180640174 |
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>just omit every grammatical category except nouns bro, we can tell the verb tense and the rest by context, trust |
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>>180639732 |
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Soldat? Try voennoslužaş̌ij, vojennyj, voin and bojec. |
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Old church slavonic probably. |
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>>180627653 |
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That or kupředu. |
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>>180612456 (OP) |
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Russian unironically. If you know more than 1 slavic language, you'll find out that all other languages sound like an autistic monkey dialect of Russian. |
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+ all the great writers and literature that was written in Russian originally. |
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>>180627653 |
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Hmm, checked some book. In Russian army marš and vperёd used in different situations. |
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"Running" is "Sprint-from-hide-to-hide". |
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