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--- 2554084
I've never felt creeped out by hikes or camping trips abroad. But I often get creeped out in the US and Canada. And I think I had a legitimate encounter with a feral man in Tennessee. I guess part of it might be the vastness of the forests and the wilderness but even so when you get "that feeling" it feels deeper than that. 

I was camping in the Unaka mountain wilderness area and I had a feeling I was being watched. This was a single night hike and I was on the verge of turning around because I just started feeling sick. Not as in feeling ill but I sensed in my stomach something was wrong like I was being watched. When I went to sleep I was frozen with fear in my tent and I heard shuffling outside and just lay there sweating like crazy. I left a pool of sweat even though it wasn't hot out. When I woke up there were prints all around my tent - they weren't boot prints they were in the shape of a human but were flat like somebody was wearing moccasins or something. 

To this day I am convinced this was a feral person, which have been known to exist in Appalachia. 

Anybody else feel way more creeped out in North American forests than when they camp abroad? You'd think it would be the other way around due to familiarity. And have any Euros felt creeped out in North America?
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>>2554084 (OP)
You can't run away from mental illness. Traveling doesn't make it better anon...
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>>2554086
>>2554086
How is it mental illness. Feral people are documented and it's a first hand experience. Also, many more people go missing in the US Wilderness and many who are found have stories about feral people, or people who hide behind trees. Trust me it's real and I saw it myself. I always get the creeps worse than I had it before when camping now.
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Pray to God for mercy and peace and no harm will come.
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>>2554088
I live in Appalachia and I have seen several things on my hikes that never made any sense. Shifting landscapes, light rods flying past during the day, laughter in the woods, silence so deep that you feel it. The woods of Appalachia are old and plenty of spooky ghosts.
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>>2554084 (OP)
>I had a feeling I was being watched.
So the gillie suit and new camofluaged plague doctor mask worked out.
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In Canada, yes. Mid and Southern US is fine. There is a difference between feeling creeped out because of a moose or bear nearby and feeling "creeped out" like in your story.

The only thing that came close to my Canada experience in Europe was in the Finnish Lappland near the Russian border. This is no man's land, 
No trails, no humans, only swamps, hills, birch forests, moose and bear. I had not seen another person for five or six days. It was early in the morning already light out and I was sleeping with my head against the inner and outer tent fabric. Suddenly my dream starts to get lucid and I dream/hear someone chanting, repetitive like a shaman. Something is pressed against my neck and I wake up. I don't move. Chanting continues. Eventually he releases my neck from the outside and I hear him walk away. It felt like he marked or blessed me for something good and bad at the same time. I didn't lose the feeling for the rest of the trip even today maybe.
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>>2554095
My nigga you got molested by Vladimir Putin in the woods.
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>>2554084 (OP)
Do you live somewhere with nonFeral People? I grew up in Siskiyou County California and now I live in the Mississippi Bayou and there were/are plenty of Feral People in both. No land taxes, no sales taxes, no income taxes, no healthcare taxes, no disability taxes, no social security taxes, just people living, and yes most of them wear moccasins. If a Feral Person isn’t wearing moccasins they’re probably a murderer and will make you a part of an urban legend to steal your boots.
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>>2554090
yes. that feeling of ancientness is something i love about these mountains and it's why I show them so much respect. just like in the middle of wide open spaces you feel impossibly small, here you feel impossibly young. I want to disappear into this place.
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>feral people
you mean meth addicts?
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>>2554139
We call them the "unhoused" now.
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>>2554084 (OP)
Perhaps your just a gianormous pussy?
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>>2554084 (OP)

Indian ghosts
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>>2554139
Feral people are people who live off the land like hermits. Meth addicts aren't that handy even though they live in rural towns.

>>2554158
They why don't I feel afraid abroad?
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Oh grow the fuck up already. There's no such thing as feral people. And all the stories have been greatly exaggerated by the shock media. The disappearances in USA wilderness is entirely due to it's vastness compared to Europe. If feral people existed there would be better evidence. And just because some hick police think it's true isn't evidence. Quit spreading this utterly ridiculous BS. People will start to blame county commissioners who are innocent.
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>>2554163
>Meth addicts aren't that handy
How handy do you need to be to chase a small animal for 6 hours straight and eat it raw?
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>>2554167
No. As somebody who grew up around feral people you're being disrespectful. Feral people are people who live in the woods and are defensive of their territory. They usually can't speak well anymore. They're not fucking meth cooks how would they get their fix deep in the woods? What OP is exactly what you should do if you're being tracked. Don't panic, don't threaten them, don't act scared. Walk until you're out of your territory. They probably will take a look at your camp but it's rare they kill or kidnap anybody (but it can happen).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXvI0bsuGPk [Embed]
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FERAL PEOPLE DON'T EXIST. You're going to ruin the reputations of entire counties with this bullshit peddling. People who worked their fucking asses off to become county commissioners will get blamed.
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>>2554175
>>2554167
county commissioners are the ones supporting the feral meth addicts. they bring the meth into the woods and give it to the meth addicts to scare them away from the sacred hidden gold
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PNW forests, especially old growth forests like the Hoh rain forest, are probably some of the comfiest, most serene, in touch with God and nature that you can be anon. The silence is deafening because you are in an area that (if hiking through national forest land) may not have had anyone in that spot for decades if not centuries. Absolute shame the states of Oregon and Washington, once the end of the Oregon trail where only the hardiest and most driven people flocked too are now liberal nanny states ruined by transexual communists who are not only the antithesis to nature, but actively despise it.
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enjoy
https://youtu.be/dClXm6evw54 [Embed]
https://youtu.be/wF2fa2nY0oo [Embed]
https://youtu.be/fE5t8GIMepM [Embed]
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>The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted
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>>2554084 (OP)
Actual biodiversity and surviving old growth. Euro forests are practically park greens.
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>>2554084 (OP)
I am christian. This world is run by satanists who kidnap 100k children every year. They need a constant source of blood for whatever purposes, the life & soul is in the blood. They probably snatch alot of people out in the wilderness.

Trust your instincts. Pray to God and ask him to protect your going in and outs.
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>>2554095
>It felt like he marked or blessed me for something good and bad at the same time

That was a curse being placed upon you. Rebuke what happened to you in the name of Yahuah.
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>>2554084 (OP)
I feel safe when out, started camping by myself pretty young to be safe so maybe that's why.
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don't google "NSA forest people experiment"
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>What went we out into this wilderness to find?
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>>2554084 (OP)
>Why are North American Forests so Creepy?
Because you are a fag, and larper. 
And conveniently, you can't post any photos of you actually going outside.
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>>2554095
My buddy and I were camping very remote, late winter PNW. He dreampt of hands pressing along the outer walls of tent, hands feeling his ears/shoulder. I woke to geurilla hooting to my right, then a deep gutteral voice rebuking the hooter just behind/above me. I too laid in shocked terror for about 2 hours until i couldnt handle it anymore, go out fighting. The two creatures thrashed outta there fast when i started yelling. Could be feral folk but I believe in bigfoot. 100%, though be he terrestial or visitor I dunno
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>>2554240
>if you don't take pictures of yourself doing a thing, you didn't really do it
Social media was a mistake
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>>2554277
You will keep scrambling to find any excuse to avoid posting photo evidence that you go outside - because you don't have any. Because you don't actually go outside.
And deep down, you know that I know, and you also know that the other anons that read this will also know you don't go outside. You'll feel embarrassed and you'll seethe repeatedly, still replying to this in a desperate bid to convince yourself that you didn't fail at something as basic as hiking. You've embarrassed and disappointed yourself enough today.
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>>2554090
there is a lot going on in Appalachia by the way, not a shop pic related.
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>>2554240
>>2554281
>THERE'S NOTHING CREEPY IN THE FORESTS! 
>POST A PICTURE CHUD
STFU faggot.
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>>2554281
>seething this hard because other people aren't insta whores
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>>2554172
How do you grow up around feral people? Aren't they incredibly rare, especially nowadays?
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>>2554369
If you grow up in certain bumfuck hick areas of the US you might run into them. You probably won't run into them in your town unless they are really fucked for food (which is rare because they are masters of living outdoors). But if you hunting and do multi-day treks and things like this you might come across them. I grew up in deep mountain country and it was known there were feral in the woods. My dad was never afraid of them and we were tracked multiple times during our camping and hunting trips. My dad would leave out supplies for them like matches. But they almost never took it - it's more to show good will. You have to remember, feral people weren't born feral. They are loner hermits who go to the woods usually after turning 18 or after some catastrophic life event. They feel pride on doing things without help so they probably won't take your "gift" you leave out. But it's a good way to say "I know you're here, I"m not messing with you, I come in peace." Because they have been living tax free and off the gov's radar, often breaking fish and wildlife regulations they're very paranoid of people.
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>>2554383
But also I don't want to paint a rosy picture. Not all ferals are harmless hermits. A lot of disappearances in Appalachia are due to feral humans, especially girls.
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>>2554084 (OP)
OP, that looks comfy as fuck. 
Not sure what your deal is.
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>>2554387
Why are retards in this thread acting like just because something is comfy doesn't mean it can't be creepy? A lot of the comfiest places are filled with the most bizarre disappearances. Nobody said it's not comfy or beautiful or fun, if it wasn't I'm sure OP wouldn't be hiking despite his scary experience with a feral human.
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>>2554388
Because being creeped out is synonymous with being uncomfortable you obnoxious troon
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>>2554391
Wrong. I've been in comfy areas and heard strange things and still enjoy my time. Being scared of a feral person or a strange occurrence doesn't preclude you from enjoying the nature itself. The adrenaline can even add to the experience.
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>>2554388
It's not creepy at all, that looks inviting and beautiful. 

You have issues if woodlands like that make you uneasy.
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>>2554400
You guys, once again, are misinterpreting it. The look of the forest is not the creepy party. It's what HAPPENS in the forest. It's not the trees that are scary. It's the feral people and disappearances, the screams, the shadow people etc. I've never seen this in Europe. And in places like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. even Maine I've never felt creeped out. This is mostly about deep Appalachia and what goes on there.

Also you kind of sound like a faggot
>Ugh mental health is so so important!!! You probs need to see a therapist and go on le ebic psych meds!!!
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>>2554404
I live in Kentucky. You know what happens in the woods here if you mind your business?

Nothing. 
Other than possums fucking and coons copulating, nothing will happen to you.
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>>2554405
Have you ever gone on multi-day off trail treks? Because if you really are in KT and haven't experienced anything strange then I think you're probably being paid by your county commissioners office. Fuck off fed faggot.
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>>2554383
Are you sure these "feral humans" aren't just retards going into the woods on drugs?
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>>2554407
AHAHAHAH! 
You are fucking bonkers. Seek help bud.

>>2554409
He got spooked by a bunch of rednecks in side-by's playing lynrd skynrd, and thought the Goat Man was onto him.
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>>2554423
County commissioner faggot fuck off.
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>>2554424
Nah, I'm going to watch you unravel, thinking the mothman is going to swoop down and give you the creeps or some shit. 

FFS man, not everyone is spooked by an owl hooting, like you are.
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>>2554198
I always wondered how descendants of such hardy men can turn out like that. Does ancestry not make any influence in character then? Is it all just a material thing. Who knows
--- 2554479
North America is cursed land. Very rarely are the people here not retarded or downright evil. The wilderness bleeds that aura outward. So long as you show no fear, you’ll be alright.
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>>2554479
>aura
Typical crystal-gazing, navel-gazing, self-obsessed New Age bullshit. My Mom was into that crap for decades until she got the menopause and realized no amount of meditation, aura massages, yoga, and incense would restore her youth, grant her immortality, or fetch her a new man post-divorce and post-eggs. She's really weaned herself off that claptrap in recent years. It's all quite ironic, because New Age shit heavily apes Buddhism (superficially, that is), and Buddhism is about NOT gazing at your navel and NOT becoming attached to physicality. Women are of course unable to understand this as a whole gender.

Anyway, the Earth doesn't care about you at all. There is no aura or vibe; it's all in your head. The Earth didn't care about the Permian extinction, it didn't care about the Cretaceous extinction, it didn't care when homo sapiens out-competed the Neanderthals, it didn't care when Native Americans genocided each other, it didn't care when white men genocided the Native Americans, and it doesn't care about the Holocene extinction (i.e., what we 8 billion human cockroaches are doing to flora and fauna right now).

In 50 million years, we and almost every trace of our civilization will be gone, there'll be whole new continental configurations, new species of flora and fauna, and the Earth still won't care. Pure egotism to think that nature gives a damn about you one way or the other.
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>>2554728
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>>2554732
good post. this is the kind of quality I expect from nu-out.
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>>2554734
The Earth doesn't care about /out/

Checkmate
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>>2554084 (OP)
Well, it's a big place. Canada and the US are like twice as big as all of Europe. 

There's stories around where I live, northern Rocky mountains, about a guy who does this shit. Basically, when a person is camping alone, or just 2 people, and they're drinking and such, and not if they have dogs, he finds a chance to sneak up and put something in the bottle that makes them pass out.

I've never heard any stories about him raping them or anything, he just takes pictures of them asleep with their phones, steals some cash and food, and leaves them alone besides that.

I used to think this was just a local legend, because the stories were always like "my friend's cousin's boyfriend" and shit like that, but then it happened to a friend of mine and I saw the pictures myself. 

My opinion is that it's a Kaczynski kind of guy who has taken a different approach.
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>>2554277
4chan is social media, retard.
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>>2554475
I dunno anom but it's really sad the states are so cucked.
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>>2554763
No shit faggot but it's a half brain opinion to group it with Instagram or Twitter. You stupid bitch. Send me your address so I can take a shit in a plastic bag and send it to you.
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>>2554764
As gay as the states are, Europe has it worse. I laugh when people call China a surveillance state, while England has more cameras per square mile, (or square kilometer, if you prefer) than China

Anyway, ain't no reason to make a dick measuring contest out of it. The US may have less cameras but they're still watching us all the time, in other ways. We're all getting fucked. The only question is, when will we do something about it?
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>>2554772
>The only question is, when will we do something about it?
As the old adage goes, civilization is only nine (or seven, or three) missed meals away from anarchy. When people get hungry, and especially when their children get hungry, then they'll be ready to burn down the palatial estates of the elite.

Of course, these days, it's often too late by the time things get that far, because we're better at providing cattle feed to the poor than in ancient times; and of course we have globalism and planes now, so the elite will simply flee like the parasitic cowards they really are. The only consolation is that they'll spend the rest of their lives as strangers in a strange land always looking over their shoulders, because the world will quickly forget them, but their people will not and those people will be out for revenge (if they can get it).
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>>2554205
Mr.Ballen is a fucking moron. He always gets his facts wrong and "reports" of pure bs shock shit.
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I go out into the middle of the woods at night with a flashlight. I have an internal first person monologue that narrates the adventures.
Something out there in the wild was calling me. I had a funny feeling that this would end with me dead in the end, still, my curiosity had overcome my reasoning, I had to do this, I don’t know why but I had to do it.
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>>2554856
he makes no distinction between truth and tall tale. his whole appeal is his animated storytelling style and everything he says should be treated as a work of entertainment
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>>2554404
Not really sure what you're on about OP I'm non-american and I don't look at Appalachia and think it looks creepy at all! It looks pretty cosy!
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>>2554772
Every country in the world has a ridonkulous amount of cameras per square mile they're called mobile phones
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>>2554888
>Not really sure what you're on about OP I'm non-american and I don't look at Appalachia and think it looks creepy at all! It looks pretty cosy
I live in southern Appalachia and I think these fruits are coming down here from NOVA to "experience a wild and spiritual journey of personal growth," but then they lie down on their $600 worth of doubled-up self-inflating mattresses and let Deliverance, a few specific X-Files episodes, and Sasquatch and ghost hunter shlock TV shows run their imaginations wild.

It's especially fuckwitted because cryptid hunter shows deploy shitloads of (probably prop) equipment and still have to shake pots and pans off-camera to pretend they found anything at all.
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>>2554285
I'm not schizo so you'll have to explain what's "going on" in your picture.
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>>2554772
>England has more cameras per square mile
Absolutely useless way of comparing countries. You put cameras where the people are. China is fucking huge. Everyone lives near the coast in the south. There are vast deserts where no one goes. England is really small. Every square inch has been inhabited since Roman times.

I'm not saying that cameras everywhere is good. It isn't. But try to use your head for more then a hat rack.
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>>2554163
>They why don't I feel afraid abroad?
No joggers?
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>>2554084 (OP)
it's probably the grass 
thick grass is synonymous with creepy insects and reptiles
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>>2554240
>anything I don't like is a LARP
fucking tired of you people ruining the board
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>>2554095
Something similar happened to me while solo camping in San Jacinto. I was in my tent when I suddenly wake up to this beautiful naked woman touching me! Yelled you can’t touch my “NONONO ZONE!” And started to pummel her. Then all the sudden I wake up. Like nothing ever happened. Moral of the story don’t let wenches of the woods touch you nono zone.
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What path do you choose?
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>>2554084 (OP)
do you know how to get to bells canyon?
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>>2555522
Ah yes, the the beast from the woods, we meet again.

https://youtu.be/BRtI3P7pJO0 [Embed]
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>>2554084 (OP)
I've spent a lot of time in forests in many different parts of the US and Canada. Appalachia easily the creepiest, but I'd put the dense damp literal rainforests of the PNW as second. I've had encounters with "hill folk" in the Cascades that would rival any WV holler or Ozark backwoods, people that look very clearly "devolved." A far lesser known creepy woods spot is the Uinta Range in NE Utah, this is not far from the Skinwalker Ranch and I've never had such a strong feeling that I was being watched.
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>>2555513
When in doubt, the right way.
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>>2554084 (OP)
Cuz the Wendigos
--- 2555806
German forests are fucking fake and gay.
They feel more like Tree Factories than wilderness.
Everything fucking sucks here.
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>>2554919
>He doesn´t have severe Pareidolia...
ngmi
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>>2554888
It is. 
>>2554893

The fucking barrage of idiotic films and programs that make anyone not living in an overcrowded city look like a sociopath does not help things, but yes, the puerile tripe you mentioned does not help.
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>>2555513
If I'm dressed like that, and with a near empty pack, I'm turning around and going home.
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>>2555806
this. I fucking hate it here. The only forest I know of that is nice is the black forrest. The problem I have is that everywhere is infrastructure of some kind so you can't go off track. Plus everywhere are parking lots so everyone can go to the good places without any problems.
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>>2554084 (OP)
They aren't. You have a mental problem.
>>2554086
this anon gets it.
>>2554090
post tits
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>>2554090
>silence so deep you feel it
Most sounds are explainable. Sometimes the woods fucks with the noise of a trickling stream to make it sound like someone, eternally out of line of sight, is talking. Animal calls are warped in unusual ways to sound like vehicles, and sometimes that twig that snapped just decided to do so on its own. That silence though... I've never found an explanation for those moments when you feel like screaming wont make a sound.
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>>2554095
God bless Russia's inability to regulate their forests like annoying Americans do
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>>2554101
Putin Derrangement Syndrome. Ukraine is losing. Get over it.
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>>2554084 (OP)
The historical poverty in the area lends credence to your words. I'll believe it.
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>>2554126
Could you tell more about feral people? I've passed through Weed before. That whole area is wilderness. Didn't run into any feral people though. Why would you leave? It's so damn pretty out there. Mississippi swamp I spent a lot of my childhood there but it was within a retirement community visiting my grandparents. Didn't get to explore. Very, very muggy. Full of bugs.
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>>2554198
What are you talking about? They have some seriously strict laws to protect the wilderness. They segregate the shit you're taking about. Why are you in the cities with the homeless? Why are people so ignorant of the PNW? How many retards can there be on this website? Is it sour grapes because you think you can't afford to live there? There's plenty of small mountain towns you could move to. Your neighbors will all be white, and addicted to meth. The homeless are white too. It's a white haven!
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>>2554084 (OP)
Idk I live in Michigan. Parents have 40 acres of land, never once camped in it because it gives myself and others the heebie jeebies at night. During the day all is well. Dad allegedly saw people in 1800's clothing one time walking down to the barn, handful of times of sounding like I was being stalked by something, yet nothing visible, in the 90's myself and some halloween gatherers at neighbors saw the obligatory Black Triangle. Maybe a freak space time warp there.
Also:
>was part of larger acreage 
>another house was around 1/2 mile NW of the current one 
>numerous people died of fever in the winter
>bodies stored in the attic
>nearby swamp has 4 large stones at the 4 cardinal directions
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>>2556330
new growth/old growth is logging industry propaganda that won't die
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>>2554164
there's literally dozens of Wikipedia articles on well documented feral people and the efforts we have taken to see if they can be normalized. Jesus fucking Christ read a book once in a while you troglodyte
--- 2556481
Anywhere particularly creepy and isolated I can visit in New Mexico? Looking for a good thrill, solo night hiking, getting chased by satanists after accidentally stumbling on their territory, sex with skinwalkers whatever.
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>>2556481
NMfag here, check out Mogollon, north of Silver City. Proper ghost town. Also old Highway 666 from Shiprock to Gallup after dark is spooky as all fuck. Bring a full tank of gas and a large firearm. NM is a CURSED land.
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>>2555806
You're not even German. You are some kind of lowlander. There is plenty of natural forest in the hill country. Not oldgrowth of course but you scarcely even find that in Scandinavia nowdays.
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>>2556487
Thanks m8
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>>2556487
That's also rez land.
 Don't be fucking about off highway after dark, playing spooky-spook with a gun on rez land.
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>>2556481
Sacramento or Timberon, doesn't have a gas station, elk everywhere, no street lights, pretty much no paved roads
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>>2556481
>>2556499
also plenty of camping and spots on the way out to the VLA, it's very remote without lights for the satellite dishes, so no light pollution out there
ft stanton near ruidoso is worth seein, valley of fires is up the road from the stallion gate that leads to the Trinity Test Site (1st atomic detonation but that's only open 2days out of the year since it's on airforce missile land)
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>>2556490
halt die fresse du dummer hurensohn
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>>2555806
not bad considering what they looked like off and on the last 100 years
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>>2554146
Unironically, the term is “people experiencing homelessness” 

News headline: “woman hit by train at 2am was experiencing homelessness”
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>>2554084 (OP)
Trust your gut feeling, it's 99% of the time right.
If you feel watched, you are being watched.
If it's a hunter, deer or a squirrel watching you it will be the same feeling.
A 6th sense a select few have unlocked.
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that's my cats warning to you
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>>2554174
Kek'd
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>>2556543
The next PC term will be "residentially challenged" mark my words.
--- 2556687
I understand that some people who make /x/ tier posts can be pretty gay sometimes, but the people who counterpost come off as spiritually dead and gay. These people have never camped somewhere without a park bench. Soul dead people tend not to be welcome in the wild.
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>>2554084 (OP)
There is nothing spooky in the woods. Animals are terrified or curious of you, and the people are friendly. Abandon the trail anon, go bushwhacking. Venture further and experience places most people dont even know exist. Don't be afraid of some trees, anon, its not like you work in the logging industry or something. Embrace the silence, follow the solitude.

t. have done bush work for some time in very remote places in northern Canada
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>>2554090
Shut the fuck up man I've been all throughout the appalachia and there's nothing paranormal out there, you're just paranoid. The weirdest thing that could ever happen in the wilderness is other people and that's it.
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>>2554919
Face in the clouds. God this thread is loaded with NPCs who haven't gone to a parking lot let alone the woods.
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>>2554084 (OP)
>creepy
You mean comfy? Everytime I hike through a European new growth forest with barely any undergrowth or biodiversity to speak of, something screams inside me that something's very, very wrong. My ancestors have ruined this land and left nothing unspoiled.
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>>2556687
You know what's annoying? People always talking about how west virginia for example has cryptids and all that bullshit, when they're not even from there nor have they ever been. Imagine trying to tell someone that lives there that you know more than them. lol
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>>2554240
>>2554281
Go touch grass.
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>>2558607
You just named 95% of /out/...
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>>2554865
Great game
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>>2558591
>if you don't think clouds are proof of spoopy shit then you're an NPC who has never been outside
okay
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>>2554175
Sounds like a county commissioner whose not doing his job accounting for all the feral people in his precinct. Your supervisor is going to be very disappointed in you.
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>>2554084 (OP)
I feel the same way. Old world landscapes and forests feel familiar and safe, but the new world (especially Australia) is creepy as. Australian trees are shaped like veins in lungs, and grow in unpredictable ways, european pines stand straight like soldiers. Just my thoughts having been in both.
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>>2555806
Kind of reminds me of the conservation areas surrounding Toronto in the so called greenbelt. They logged the shit out of Southern Ontario decades ago, and re-planted the forests with fast growing pines, cedars and maples all in big rows with very little diversity. Many of the trails now tend to feel pretty sterile and monotonous as a result, very far away from nature. Although it's still a breath of fresh air (literally) getting out of the city when you don't have time for a longer trip.
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>>2555630
>A far lesser known creepy woods spot is the Uinta Range in NE Utah
The Uinta Mountains are a magical place. One of the few mountain ranges in North America to run East to West. Lots of memories solo hunting and backpacking deep in the numerous basins it has to offer, and climbing the high ridges into some deadfall hell holes I should've never been in. Creepiest places I've experienced have been on the North Slope in those high open meadows and some of the lakes. Had some really strange feelings when I camped alone at one of the lakes one night. Felt a wash of relief once morning came and I hiked out. Other than that I've never really experienced anything out of sorts either on the North or South Slope.
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>>2554084 (OP)
appalachia is big NOPE country
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I road my bike down a forest service trail for about 5 miles then just decided to park my bike and just start walking in the woods. I got about 2 miles in when I came across a straight opening that just seemed out of place, it's just in the middle of the pic, so I followed it. It was a lot easier to walk on and I just hiked around the water. The whole time it felt creepy.
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>>2560056
Then I came across an old submerged bridge. I noticed super old stumps with no tree next to them so I'm guessing they just made the bridge as they went along. I go off trail all the time and am never creeped out, I hunt, so I just left. Supposedly there was a paper mill and somehow, from what I was told, the sawdust exploded in a building. They weren't sure but said up to 50 people died, this was early 1900's. Forests can be creepy as fuck sometimes.
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>>2556405
Yeah taking a deep dive on semitic religion can get wild. I mean, gods are real and all but
>skin your penis and I'll help you conquer the world
is just kinda an odd ask.
All Woden and Tiw want is animal blood so it's kinda an easy choice for me. But by all means I don't wanna convert anyone
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>>2560056
Probably an old logging area.
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>>2560058
>somehow, from what I was told, the sawdust exploded in a building
yeah that's fairly common dude, sawdust is extremely flammable
if it's in huge quantities and dry it doesn't take muc of a spark to set it off
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>>2555513
The one less travelled.
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>>2560217
t. bobby chill
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>>2554084 (OP)
heh
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>>2560058
Forests are like people. Some are friendly and cheerful, others are gloomy and anxious. Some are benevolent and others are malevolent. They carry the scars of the past.
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>>2554287
bro nice Breath of the Wild screen shot. That the HD mod?
--- 2560492
I know this thread is on the verge of devolving into a skin walker creepypasta thread, but i have a real question.
I'm European and I don't know shit, but i bought some of the foxfire books.

The people they describe aren't feral but really remote, insular and detached from the "real world".
I have utmost respect for these people.
Do they still exist ?
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>>2558591
I see chad spiderman making a kissy face, not God
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>>2554084 (OP)
I've never been able to sleep in a forest because I imagine being eaten by wild animals. There's also spirits.
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>>2556361
I lived in Oregon and Washington for about 7 years total retard, from Springfield and Lane County to Portland to Seattle and out near the OP for a bit. Have you driven out east from Seattle towards the pass? Cutting down the woods to build shitty, ugly condos. With more treats getting cut down the water ways get blown out. Combined with littering and more trash, this has been brutal for steelhead breeding and their grounds. 
Aside from that, both Oregon and Seattle control the politics of the state and if you can't see how detrimental that has been not only to the environment but personal freedoms over the last 20ish years, you are also retarded and gay. The OP, national parks/forests, and other vast swaths of Oregon and Washington are still mostly undestroyed, true, but that is only because the consuming plague that are the residents of Seattle and Portland haven't been forced out of their pods yet to move farther out.
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>>2562348
Also, add in that how many of these "people" who live in these states and vote their way actually care about the environment? Not only do these obese, transexual slobs stay in their le 15 minute cities, the amount of strain they put and destruction on the environment is insane
>buying brand new plywood overpriced condos that had the woods cut down to live in
>new EV that not only is immensely harmful to create, but also puts huge strain on electrical grid
>food delivery services, buy everything from Amazon/Whole Foods, work do nothing tech jobs, etc.
But it is ok cause even though they are doing the equivalent of lighting tires on fire, they buy le carbon offsets so it works out! These people destroy the environment, they only care about it so they can virtue signal about how much they care and so they can go to local trailheads for grinder photos. 
Thanks for letting me rant anon, I feel a bit better.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXvI0bsuGPk [Embed]

Spirits their are still untamed and the mericans faithless, spiritual manlets. No wonder so many atrocities occur on a daily basis. 
There is a reason complex rituals have come into existence all over the world
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>>2560492
No, not anymore. I live one county over from Rabun. There are vestiges of it though. Plenty of people still farm and garden and hunt and some of the old traditions are carried on, no one around here lives in isolation like that anymore though.
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>>2562340
I appreciate you, bro. Thanks for staying away.
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>>2556453
>obligatory Black Triangle
Story time?
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>>2562969

That makes sense, but it also is a little sad.
I might be romanticizing something that's not great at all but i have crazy respect for what I've read in those books.
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>>2556309
Just whistle then you overdramatic faggot
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>>2554404

Europe has a long history of Witch hunting, Werewolf hunting. People didn't put up with scary bullshit in the woods. 

While Native Americans celebrated scary bullshit in the woods. 

Idfk man I'm just talking shit, I never had scary shit in NZ except when I smoke too much pot but my own house is scary when I smoke too much pot.
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>>2563816
¥urop's witch and werewolf hunting was an urban affair. And yes like all spoops it's based in superstition or dogma, but frankly it doesn't compare to the endless and untrustworthy wild of the New World. those fuckers who boated across to Virginia and New England, literally IN the age of enlightenment, and found nothing but the tortures of the elements, wily natives, and endless continent before them, those people can be forgiven for truly fearing the woods and wondering where and how the Devil will encroach on them there. 

in my own town in MA there's a spat of land known as the cedar meadow, aka "the witch woods". all the farms from the 1600s end at the cedar meadow, they never went into it. today all the old stone walls run blindly through the forest but they all border at the cedar meadow because people were afraid to go into that land and clear it, and so it has never been cleared. I personally have trekked through and it's the only place I feel truly vulnerable; you can't stand up straight and you can't see what's in front of you or behind you. just dense fucking cedar branches with barely any room to breathe. FUCK the witch woods

pickeral, google map in spring shows how this played out. if you look closely you can see the stone walls skirting the cedar meadow. and also be mindful that this shit isn't nearly as intimidating via satellite, you kinda have to be there
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>>2554728
No matter what damage we think we can do to this planet, no matter the scale, the earth will regreen, will regrow like humans were never here. Because, it has all the time in the world.
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>>2554285
Oy vey
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>>2563847
how long do you think it would take to completely reset? like, no ruins to be found above or below ground, not a shred of aluminum to be excavated, just zero signs we ever existed?

I'm thinking by 1M years all our ruins will be erased above ground, but it would take billions for the earth to eat every scrap of trash and structure. I mean, we have rock formations that over a billion years old, so the tectonic recycling process is crazy slow
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>>2556453
Thanks for sharing anon, but I have to say that 40 acres isn't a massive amount of land. Do you guy's not regularly go out there and manage it?
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>>2558583
Yup. Im a fire lookout. Been over an hour away from a single soul. Had bears, wolves, rattlesnakes as the nearest guests.
The scariest thing by far is humans. People are just scared of what they dont know and we are some of the most sheltered people on earth.
Im not saying no, but its mostly just campfire shit to scare each other. Some people are fucking weird though.
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>>2556453
bruh how the fuck did you never campout there? I mean I don't camp in the witch's woods but I camp nearing to it at least

also the fuck is the black triangle
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>>2554475
Wilamette valley is 70% of oregons population. Ofcourse a couple cities would eventually ruin the rest of the state. All it took was a show like portlandia or hippies to move in to live their eco trrrorist dream
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>>2558583
>>2564142
Same. Born and raised in the mountains, and for all the social media posing I've seen from mostly fat people, I've never once seen anything paranormal. And I always wanted to. 
Closest to paranormal I ever really felt was going into the entrances of some old caves with just my dog, and you look in, and your brain tells you that there is someone there watching you. You can see shadows move, and you walk in some and it retreats back into the cave.
As an adult, I learned about how the brain works and finds faces in things. As a kid though, I was positive that there was some underground people lurking in them.
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>>2555806
Oerbos. Get lost. You don't know what is
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>>2554240
retard
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>>2556453
>mfw yooper
>really into bigfoot/cryptids
>have stalked around the most desolate forest I can find for years with zero "odd" things ever happening
>fellow /out/ friend comes over to my place for the weekend 
>proud bigfoot skeptic and always debated me on the subject
>wakes me up in the middle of the night 
>he is pale and shaking 
>wtf bro you good?
>tells me he saw a bigfoot, and he wants to get the fuck out of here
>think he is joking and laugh him off and try and go back to sleep
>he starts shaking me begging me to get up and leave because he doesn't want to walk out alone.
>sounds like he is going to cry
>realize he isn't joking, he is a big guy and seasoned /out/doorman who shouldn't fear walking a few miles in the dark.
>try and ask him wtf happened but he is too shook and just begs me to pack up faster 
>he sets the pace and we basically run out of the forest back to the dirt road my truck was parked at. 
>throw shit into the bed and jump into the cab 
>start up and drive off
>friend doesn't stop looking behind us until we reach blacktop 
>still refuses to talk about it 

I'm so unlucky bros
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>>2555806
German territories ran out of lebensraum centuries ago. I'd suggest Norway, Sweden, or Finland in Europe, or if you're not a pussy the US and Canada for neulebensraum.
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I know it's going to sound silly considering how considerably less wild those places are but I feel something similar toward the forests of center France. They have a foreboding and heavy air to it I never really felt in mountain forests for example. Something's off there, you often stumble upon weird (occult?) stuff left around, hanging from trees, not surprising when you learn abour stories like the Gevaudan Beast which was well documented
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>>2554084 (OP)
Try walking through the Amazonian jungle, that will put the fear of GOD in your heart really quick. You have to deal with: 
>snakes 
>poisonous frogs and insects 
>big cats that will stalk you without being seen 
>poisonous plants of all kind 
>drug smugglers from other countries that WILL shoot you on sight 
>natives that probably are not friendly
>illegal loggers and miners that maybe will shoot you on sight 
>military spec ops teams doing god knows what 
>everything in the water is dangerous
>noises that make no sense 
>the sensation of being observed all the time 

Holy shit fuck Brazil, I never want to go back there. Also, there's a ton of child prostitution and slave work in broad daylight in those forgotten cities and nobody gives a fuck. I really don't know how the Spanish did it.
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>>2554095
You should check the film Sauna (2008), its set at that at that exact place in Imperial Russia period
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>>2565832
storytime anon
Tell us more
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>>2554095
Bro entered hyperborea
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>>2554763
Social media is a meaningless term made convenient by corporations to push walled garden internet onto computer illiterates. Obviously it worked because there's no shortage of you faggots showing up to tell people that everything under the sun is social media.
4chan is not a social network.
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>>2566572
There's a ton of stuff, from finding weird witchcraft rituals in the forest, to seeing the aftermath of illegal miners and loggers killing natives and vice versa, most regions are very dangerous, but the North/Northeast takes the cake because there's no law since is so vast and nobody gives a fuck anyway. But here's a story about some ritual I witnessed in the middle of the forest 
>went to Rio de janeiro because European tourist 
>mom has some friends there 
>went to the waterfalls because beaches are always packed in the summer 
>enjoying still somewhat preserved forest and some cool waterfalls 
>water is cold as fuck because mountains
>see some movement up ahead 
>there's like 30 people in a shallow natural pool
>live chickens, lots of food and some weird songs 
>"what the fuck is all this?" 
>friend explain to me it's some African religion ritual and they do this to celebrate some African gods or whatever
>"shouldn't we gtfo outta here before they use us as sacrifice" 
>"no need, they're cool and you can watch no problem, just don't say anything" 
>people all dressed in white 
>they start dancing, getting in a sort of trance state and acting like their entities or whatever 
>some old dude start slicing chicken necks left and right 
>blood fucking everywhere in the water 
>music gets louder 
>talking gets louder 
>the dance becomes weirder 
>they start smoking and drinking in the middle of the blood water
>after some time everything was calm again 
>people bathing in the now clear water 
>some lightskin hotties started talking to me 
>my portuguese is non-existent and i was kinda scares some of them were gonna slice my throat
>went home thinking wtf was that 
>apparently it's a normal thing in a religion called candomble 
>went home smelling like wet chicken
>all this in a wendsday 
There's stuff like this all over the country, and it's not even the worse I saw
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>>2554089
I do this but to Odin and I have this weird tick where I have to "knock on wood" but 3 times and then sometimes knock 3 times, 3 times to Odin. I actually can't stop and sometimes I have to "knock on wood" to unhex my knock on wood so I end up knocking 9 times 3 times.. etc.. usually when I'm doing something like driving and I start freaking out frustrated
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>>2554404
Maine is for sure creepy.
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>>2566867
Odin is a tranny and was mostly followed by fringe cultists who sacrificed babies. You're actually opening up yourself to even more negative energy than otherwise just being an atheist by praying to it while attracting the rest of the patheon who hated Odin if not Odin himself who would get a kick out of tormenting a random tard who thinks he's obligated to his protection.
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>>2566887
So I should pray to thor instead?
--- 2566891
Every year I feel less human.
 I love nature and my garden. I want to be outside and watch butterflies and birds. I want to go fishing and hiking. 
Every time I observe humans I understand them less. Everything that people seem to find valuable is pointless. The majority of human effort is spent on degeneracy. Everyone lies all the time. Slowly I’m growing to hate humans.

I’m 34 and humans become more annoying every year.
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>>2566890
Seems like the more sound choice, there's a bunch of traditions associated with Thor and loyalty/honor. Thor atleast wouldn't want to fuck with you for shits and giggles compared to Odin
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>>2566891
Sorry, this is supposed to be its own thread
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>>2565832
>insects
My uncle did military stuff in Panama and said the mosquitos were insane if you any any exposed skin it would get lit up immediately.
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>>2564146
Portland and Seattle have had that reputation since the hippies moved there in the 60s, it was a completely natural progression and anyone that is surprised at how those cities turned out is a stupid person.
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>>2566843
Anon what you described is a Santeria ritual, you know the fun summer song by Sublime? Its named after the religion. It’s a religion that comes out of West Africa from the slaves and is practiced all over the Americas. They wear all white as a purity thing. It’s a fascinating religion you should’ve taken time to learn a new culture instead of getting creeped out. I thought Euros were supposed to be open minded?
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>>2566894
well then rethread it
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>>2554285
>Supercell
Yeah we get those in the plains all the time. Suck it up bub hope you got a storm cellar.
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>>2554240
just posting again to say fuck you
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>>2567090
>mfw live in New England 
>yes we have basements but no need for storm sellers
>we get a tornado finally
>most horrifying storm of my life
>literally sounds like a freight train
>run into the basement to huddle and wait it out
>looking out the narrow basement windows, every flash of lightning you can see the silhouettes of the trees violently bending one direction and a moment later the opposite direction
>brick chimney crumbles
>tree falls on the house
>I get struck by lightning from INSIDE the house right in front of my family
yeah fuck that shit. pickerel is the house
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>>2563820
>And yes like all spoops it's based in superstition or dogma
If by this you mean superstitious people performed rituals to turn themselves in werewolves using witchcraft and were killed because it didn't fit the dogma of the Church then you're right.

>those people can be forgiven for truly fearing the woods and wondering where and how the Devil will encroach on them there
Yes, forgive them for hurting your personal materialistic dogma by trying to survive known threats like savages. They were just silly gooses, they didn't know they could have been making toilet paper and science textbooks from the trees they relied on for food, protection, housing, tools, medicine, and spiritual guidance. Forgive the hunter-gatherer societies that survived to the modern day by this method but had to watch their neighbors become decimated by war, disease, and slavery at the hands of the wonderful science gurus who put microplastics in our food, chemicals in the air, petroleum and mountains of waste in the oceans, and mutilate children to keep them from commiting suicide. Truly, we have become gods thanks to science.
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>>2567524
bit glib, on the whole
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>>2566843
>ewww, chicken blood
They were calling on the great god of protection whose name is "Stayhomesoiboi" if I remember correctly. Sounds like it was a success.
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>>2567511
House looks comfy anon
--- 2567536
I know many of you are going to think I am just fucking around, but I've confirmed/seen at least three naked kids on trails around gatlinburg/Maggie valley/smoky mountains np. Random yelling and laughing as well. I even thought I saw a preteen girl nude bathing in a pond when I was on a hike at least 12 miles from clingmans dome off the mountain and I distinctly remember going in my pack to get my Sony Cybershot (it was the early 2000s) and when I went to take a picture, she was gone.
--- 2567538
>>2567531
thanks anon, twas a very nice place to grow up †bh. it's still my dad's pride. back in 1978 he ordered the house from a catalogue and sure as shit the company showed up with trucks over several weeks dropping off piles of logs, lumber, and building materials in heaps on the plot. my dad hired a guy to dig the foundation, and company came and poured the concrete, and once that set he hired two random duded and a small crane and over the next 11 months the three of them followed the instructions and built the goddamn house together. it was leaky and drafty for years until every detail was finished, but my parents were legit able to live in the house that first winter even before it was done.

back in 1978 the entire operation cost $30k. the furnace alone was $10k and to this day it's the best part. it's big enough where you could walk into it if you wanted and we burn oil, wood, or coal and it's always cozy af because we harvest wood all year an have cords and cords drying for years at a time
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>>2567536
>preteen
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>>2567542
Yes. About 9-12 years old if my mind serves.
--- 2567551
>>2567549
fuck sake you should be in gaol for what you've done
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>>2567551
??? What the fuck did I do? Stop trolling.
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>>2567553
naughty boy
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>>2567538
>'78
Yeah, my home was built in 79 and also had a wood, coal, propane burning furnace. It was a relic of the jimmy carter fuel shortage and people scared about what and how they were going to heat their homes with. I replaced the huge furnace about 8 years ago. Got a heat pump/propane combo. Very efficient. I got a new wood stove near the basement that is a very efficient non-catalytic but haven't had a need to use it yet. 

Neat hearing another person talk about a home like mine.
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>>2567554
Anon, it's 2023. Just because I am a MAP doesn't mean people should disregard what I damned well saw. 

I DO know that kids still play in the forest like I did growing up and I DO know that I was only a few miles from the NP border and sound travels, I never got naked as a kid and ran around in the woods but maybe that is a thing in Appalachia. I don't believe in ghosts and I am NOT a drug user.
--- 2567559
>>2567555
kek for the first 10 or so years of my life our floors were cheap shitty plywood, with cracks and holes where you could see through to the basement. as kids we just accepted it but it was fucking scary and I used to get wood splinters in my feet so bad my parents would have to hold me down to cut them out of my feet. The whole time my dad used bitch about Carter. "well thanks to Carter, wood shortages were so bad we couldn't even afford American plywood, these floors are garbage plywood from Romania" he used to say.

Thanks so much for sharing anon, it's nice to hear your take. I wish I had a photo of the furnace. It's been serviced often but still is going great. I love the deep cold days of winter where my dad would shut the oil off and just toss logs in. The house is never more comfy and the wonderful smell. Dang.
--- 2567560
>>2567559
I guess we are probably near the same age but my father died a year ago. 

You can see how the previous unit was about three times as large. Was very useful in its day but heat pumps/ac is just so much more efficient now. Was a game changer.
--- 2567565
>>2567560
Yeah we must be. An upgrade is always worth it, especially when it comes to cost and efficiency. I live in a different country now but for the time being my parents are staying put in the house, and there's no chance my dad cares about doing any upgrades. I wish I had the cash to buy them out and keep that house as my New England getaway, but I definitely can't.

Sorry to hear about your dad anon, only a year ago and that must be tough. I can't even imagine that.
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>>2567558
Anon fuck you are describing heaven. I think the gods were blessing you or there are cunny succubus in the forests
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>>2567589
https://youtu.be/NlM3CKXJs5k [Embed]
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>>2554084 (OP)
lmao how are Euros such pussies? Don't let the Wendigo and Skinwalkers get you lol.
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>>2567609
lol
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>>2554084 (OP)
Injun spirits and shit
Your ghost tends to be vengeful when your people are btfo that hard
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>>2554084 (OP)
Weirdest thing I’ve heard was a mountain lion screech at night when I was in the woods with friends. It wouldn’t be odd if I wasn’t in NY, where mountain lions are said to be extinct.
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>>2567779
seen a mountin' lion in MA as well, up close and personal. DCR doesn't want to put them on the native wildlife list because it requires a whole new fucking program of monitoring and public safety 

>>2567778
I live in the lad of King Philip's War and the amount of death, terror, and utter atrocity perpetrated by the unjuns and the colonists is hair raising. small villages way out alone in the New England wilderness getting torched in the night with everyone burning to death in their homes. the injuns would cut one leg off all the livestocck and set them to roam the forest, they would tear the clothing off the colonists, men women and children, and butcher them like pigs in the mud. they would cut their fingers off and scatter them along the roads amongst bloody bible pages as a warning to any colonists approaching. they would cut the hands and feet off anyone caught on the road days away from the nearest town, leaving them to squirm around in the mud until they died of exposure or were eaten by animals.

20 or more towns were destroyed, 10% of the european population was killed, and the destruction got so close to Boston they considered building a stockade wall around the entire city with the intention of holding out just long enough to evacuate and abandon the colony altogether. when they finally organised and got the upper hand they destroyed the indians without mercy. they burned their children alive in the dead of winter and quite literally exacted genocide. King Philip's head sat on a pike in Boston for like 30 years until it disintegrated. you go off in the woods here and sit in the dirt and aside from the comforts of nature around you, it just feels very heavy sometimes.
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>>2567511
>>2567538
What a pretty house. Wish I grew up there desu. Sounds like you had the best dad ever
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>>2567922
nice house yea but †bh he was kind of PTSD case and things weren't wonderful
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>>2559988
>old world
Russia is old world and has the biggest forest.
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>>2567536
The forest tested you and you failed.
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>>2556538
Yes, because ALL German forests were blitzkriegd and not just the front line near Belgium/France.
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>>2568042
eh, between both wars and both lost on multiple fronts I'm pretty sure they were. Fine though, go play in the southern forests and don't step on a 70yo unexploded bomb I guess
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>>2555806
Yeah, a lot of countries in Europe have forests like that. Very bland.
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>>2566843
Man I expected you running into illegal loggers or some smugglers/cartel with coke and hookers but no it was fucking niggers doing ooga booga dance
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>>2567952
This, never second doubt the forest and mount any forest nymph on sight to please the spirits.
--- 2568625
guys I just went outside and there was a feral person eating salmon by the river and he started looking at me and began yelling UHUHUHUHUHUHU while stimming out so I ran away. These feral people are everywhere, always see them hiding behind trees and whatnot
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>>2554172
>Don't panic, don't threaten them, don't act scared. Walk until-ACK!
Fuck that shit nigga, thanks for reminding me to pack.
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>>2568625
picrel?
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>>2567853

Beautiful.
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>>2554772
Cameras everywhere is a given nowadays. It's what you do with the info on the cameras that is the problem. Despite all the corruption and bullshit, Western countries really do have some civil liberty protections that China does not, especially the US. You are still more likely to be jailed in China for political dissent than in the UK, and more likely there than in the US.

>inb4 US prison population
That's all because of the War on Drugs. I believe it's ridiculous and draconian too, but if you're not a crack addicted nigger it's way easier to stay out of prison here thanks to the Bill of Rights. Yes, they violate it all the time, but they have to be sneaky about it, and it can still be used to foil their attempts to prosecute you for bullshit. You don't have that protection in China.
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>>2567944
The majority of which was only colonised after North America was
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>>2554084 (OP)
Mist be the wildlife. Webm related.

>>>/wsg/5028102

>>>/wsg/5028102
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>>2554208
What’s that from
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>>2554409
It’s hogwash anon, all of it
--- 2569180
Ya'll never camped out in the american south west desert, that's where it really gets unnerving.
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>>2569180

Do tell.
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You're right to be afraid, that's your instincts keeping you safe. There are things in the woods here in North America that don't exist in Europe. Things that are beyond natural, don't go looking
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>>2555513
If you go right you very well could run into a witch within the deep forest or a goblin or goblinoid type creature VERY dangerous I have been in that situation before and you do NOT want to run into one of those creatures believe me
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>>2569366
I too have been to Bogota
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>>2554240
>nu-out gets walked like a dog
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>>2569382
No this was in North America not South America although down there they do have some rather bizarre creatures like El Cuco or duendes. You really have to be careful when it comes to duendes because they're so small they can really sneak up on you. I've heard stories of those little gremlins and they're simply no good.
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>>2569366

There's a place like this where I go often. We just never went down one road and across the river because we thought it was private land. Were quite happy about that. Then I learnt that it was public land. So we went for a drive down there, didn't get out of the truck at all. Was weird, vibes not like the nice vibes in the other direction. Didn't stop till we got back across the creek and we had a cup of tea there, vibes felt better. Old gold mining country.
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>>2567779
Mountain lions are all over the northeast woods, but like >>2567853 said no one wants to admit it because that changes things.
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>>2569389
Sometimes the land is haunted from old wars and battles, from bad things that happened there. Keep in mind there's been Injun battles for thousands of years before the white man ever landed on these shores, a lot of history we'll never know
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>>2569390
Oh look, another clueless retard on /out/. What's new? If there are so many mountain lions in the northeast, where are the sightings or tracks or other evidence? 

>inb4 someone brings up that one mountain lion that traveled all the way from South Dakota to Connecticut
That's an exception. There is zero proof that they're "all over" the northeast.
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>>2567853
King Philip never even visited the Americas, silly. But we did have heads left on pikes around here, enjoy the wikipedia for deets. It's pretty fucked!
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>>2569399
King Phillip was the nickname given to Metacomet by the English colonists due to his English name being Philip and him being the leader of the Wampanoag tribe. His head did indeed sit on a pike in Salem’s public square for decades.
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>>2569395
>NYSDEC worker afraid of cougars
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>>2569403
lol, I wouldn't mind seeing them here. I just don't have sufficient evidence of them being established anywhere in the northeast. With so many people in the outdoors with regular cameras (not to mention trail cams), surely something would have been picked up by now if they were here in large numbers. 
Bobcats are definitely here. Even wolves come down here from Canada. But mountain lions? Nope, don't buy it.
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>>2569391
kino

more Appalachian mysteries on offer here. this is the OG Hermetically sealing the thread with likeness of Know-M thereby stating ‘lightning and fire are here’ cf. the old ways
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>>2554233
Based
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I’ve lived in the adirondacks on the border of Canada my whole life; lush, old growth forests are most of what we have aside from farmers fields. Had a few instances of sudden dead silence so heavy you could feel it, weird feelings of being watched, and many people have reported seeing UFOs here. Would love to hear stories from other ADKanons
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>>2569391
there is another world around the corner and night is going to be when even the safest of places become rather dangerous in the extreme and from the things oout side the dimension capacitate inhuman conditions to the likeness of natural law, whereby the lowers and the highers do not commingle, humans of the lower, spirits, angelics, the Creator of the Higher.
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>>2554865
Based Alanchad
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>>2554084 (OP)
And that's somewhere with a significant population and too much of it. 
It's one thing to think of the US as being full of dark spots, same goes with canada, but don't forget Russia, Africa, South America and Australia. Of all the places on earth with no one in it though, it's this shit that is least known. If there's anywhere left on earth that had hidden people and everything else that comes with it, it will be somewhere here. We have less population density than siberia and there are parts of it that have only ever been seen by satalite.
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>>2555513
the krekdt answer is go right during the day and come back the other way at night. in my experience the return trip will be more spoopy anyway
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>>2567853
Very interesting insights anon, do you have any readings about the stockade around boston, or any good books about the war overall ? I'm from Yurop and had never heard of it.
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>>2554084 (OP)
The biggest thing around me is the weed grower fags. They bought the land super cheap with the sole purpose of growing pot, so rarely do they maintain their fences or access roads and it could be easy to wonder into their land. This has happened to me a couple times, the biggest giveaways were me being able to see a shed, greenhouse, or clearing in the distance. Sometimes they will even encroach on public land (or at least very close) so sometimes one has to scout the area for any clandestine clearings on the satellite maps and be careful to not get too close. 
These people are a weird mix of wannabe wiggers and hicks. They kind of feed off the reputation some sensationalist "documentaries" painted them to be, and seem to still think that the growing business is as lucrative as it used to be (its been heavily declining for the past years). I'm so glad weed became legal here so these fucks can go out of business. 
T. Northern CA fag
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>>2570386
last couple summers here (southern OR) have been quite dry, and the pot farmers were either going out of business (lol) or stealing water from muni supplies in order to stay afloat. 

legalization has been a disaster for people wanting to buy smaller plots of land as well, as a lot of the < 10 acre plots were snapped up for cheap by FOMOing wannabe pot growers. hoping they all go under and normal people can get cheap land again.
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>>2570390

Fuck man I'm worried about this happening where I live, there's always been cheap land but I've never had the money, just want a small block of woods. Lots of rich folk from out of town turn up all the time and buy it up.
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>>2570386

This episode of meat eater is so good, the guy talks about his time hunting these cunts who are fucking up ecosystems with huge illegal grows. 

https://www.themeateater.com/listen/meateater/ep-179-the-weed-warden
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>>2555513
Righy obviously, i bet theres wendussy down that way
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>>2565504
See, this is what people are like after being raped by bears. Poor guy didn't want to admit it, but even seasoned outdoorsmen can be victims too.

I'm telling you guys, do not get raped by a pack of bears like that guy did.
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>>2570322
Well anon, the best book on the matter is widely considered to be Jill Lepore's The Name of War. She won awards for her research and the focus on historical accounts, and the language used and the way written discourse changed at the time as bascially a reflection of the horror and mortality unlike anything these people had ever faced. Her historical accounts are put together so well that the story of the war was finally insightful and cohesive rather than just a telling of known events. She also documents the oral accounts and history of the natives of the time. I've never really seen or heard about at least 70% of it and I've been KPhW buff for a long time and have read 3 books on the matter. Definitely check it out. Also good is L.T. Brooks' Our Beloved Kin; a more overall and general account but with additional uncovered research and accounts.

If you like this sort of thing I would encourage you to watch Jill Lepore's talk in Worcester, where she discussed the history and origins and of the war and of course promotes her new book. I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say her work does for KPhW what Last of the Mohicans did for the French & Indian War, or in a way what Dances with Wolves did for the Plains Indians. The 2-dimensional account of colonists bullying, abusing, and encroaching on Indians is true but absolutely much more complicated. This war didn't erupt for over 50 years after the Puritans colonized, things were actually manageable for a couple generations but then shit just went off.

The full version of her talk is here:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?101491-1/name-war

If you can't access CSPAN for any reason there's a disappointingly abridged version on youtube here:
https://youtu.be/Fkt2utLw3yY [Embed]
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>>2570720
blast it all, forgot pic
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>>2570721
>>2570720
Thanks for sharing anon, have a good one
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>>2554084 (OP)
the land was cursed by the red man.
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>>2556332
426 days of losing the 3-day special operation?
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>>2555513
Right because it's shady and looks like a hot day
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>>2567853
Same with VA and the mountain lions. They are here but wardens don't officially count them because they haven't found any breeding pairs.
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>>2566891
You're just disconnecting from what is false and discovering what is truly means to be alive.
--- 2571516
>usually absolutely love setting up camp and sitting with the fire until it's completely dead. I'll let the embers smolder for hours and just watch them and enjoy the dark scenery before I douse it and go to sleep 
>sometimes it doesn't happen this way. I get hit by a wall of silence and uncomfortable stillness. 
>it's not like I'm being watched, but I can't shake the feeling I'm sharing camp with some force far bigger than I am
>eventually it moves on and the night proceeds without incident 
I'm still fairly new to this and I've only camped around the Appalachians, so I don't know what to make of it. It could just be my overactive imagination. Whatever it is definitely doesn't feel malevolent, I just feel uneasy at worst.
--- 2571589
>>2569156
Not him, but looks like D. H. Lawerence's "Studies in Classical American Literature".
--- 2571594
>>2554281
Fucking kek you kill him.
--- 2571608
>>2554084 (OP)
because the indo european man does not belong there, we are alien to it
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>>2554174
>American forest
>burzum music
Lol
Also
>first photo of American forest was taken literally 2km away from where I live (Europe)
--- 2571899
>>2565504
Same bro. Been looking for spooky things for years with no luck.
--- 2572025
>>2554856
mr. ballen's source is david paulides. im not even kidding.
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>>2572025
jaun of his sources yes.

mrballen is also for entertainment porpoises only so I don't anyone ought to get butthurt about it. he's closer to CreepsMcPasta than he is to Bill Kurtis
--- 2572030
just walked out in the forest at night, theres jack shit here
its just cold & dark, nothing more
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>>2572030
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>>2554384
Feral girls?
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>>2554090
I wanna believe so bad in mysteries and spooks and such, but it's always such bullshit. Ghosts, spirits, fae, wisps, are only real if you are terrified of them, but if you are actually interested in them or want to see them, then you realize just how fake and dissapointing it all is. Ghosts are fake, bigfoot is fake, skinwalkers are fake, dogmen are fake. All of them, everything supernatural; it's all bullshit. The most scary things in the woods are other people.
--- 2572357
>>2572297

They live in large social groups. There are no men because men always get tired of their shit and leave. They will hunt down any man in the woods and fuck him, every member of the tribe will fuck him and then dump him in the woods somewhere.
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>>2555289
That was a succubus. Good thing you resisted or she could have sued for child support.
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>>2572097
 WHAT IS ITTTTTTTTTT
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>>2572030
WHAT AM I LOOKING AT PLS TELL ME
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>>2572097
Got me good, kek
--- 2572793
>>2562992
Foxfire books are great. They have a nice low key outdoor museum as well.
--- 2572847
>>2566867
You have obsessive compulsive disorder, take your medication
--- 2572848
>>2566867
Try cognitive behaviour therapy for obsessive compulsions and intrusive thoughts.
--- 2573139
>>2572357
H-hot
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>>2554084 (OP)

I was raised as a redneck and find the forests very comforting honestly.

Not gonna lie brother you sound kinda soft if you are frightened by rural people just existing, like in Tucker and Dale vs Evil, it is kinda funny.

There is reservation land in Appalachia that still live off the land in the traditional Indigenous way, and there are some mountain people that get by on very little or even no money at times.

Still human beings. Not “feral people” for living in a traditional way in a natural, un-polluted environment. You go into the cities and people are left out homeless in the cold. That’s savagery, the greed and indifference of modern society. Not Jim Bob who just wants to live innawoods and be left alone.
--- 2573145
>>2573143
>There is reservation land in Appalachia where people* still live off the land in the traditional Indigenous way
If you try this on federal land, you will end up in handcuffs, but people were just living there doing that before it became federal land. You can do this on your own private land, and you can get away with stealth camping on public land.
--- 2573148
>>2573145
Park rangers will just peacefully try to move you along, if they can even detect you. Would just be respectful and polite when dealing with them, they are not bad people.
--- 2573171
>>2554163
>Meth addicts aren't that handy
bro i know a few people who smoke and they're incredibly handy. they aren't full-blown tweakers, however
--- 2573239
>>2554084 (OP)
Another redneck here -- from rural NorCal: They aren't. Why are you so goddam jumpy?
--- 2573249
>>2556597
Its the 'unhoused'.
--- 2573255
>>2554084 (OP)
A lot of central/western european forests are actually being maintained by land owners or the government. It's hard to find truly wild forests there. And most wild preditors have been hunted to extinction. That's not the case at all in NA.
--- 2573264
>>2554174
fuck, that video reminded my of that russian dude's story about some deer encounters he and his friend had
--- 2573311
>>2572025
He made the 411 books right? Is there a reason people on this board don't like him, or any controversy I am unaware of? Just curious because I have a pdf of one of his books from /lit/.
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>>2560056
Based on the species and the way they are planted, guessing it was an abandoned tree plantation as a part of a logging operation. Pretty neat find anon.

t. ForesterAnon
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>>2573429
is it pronounced "spee-sees" or "spee-shees"
--- 2573456
>>2567558
>I am a MAP
Kys
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>>2554095
Thats because unironically monsters live in the wilderness of canada and same thing with Siberia.
You have 10's of THOUSANDS of miles of valuable land, resources, and places to live, yet we dont touch them. We build in the middle of hot ass deserts but not in cold forests? 
Nah, those places are home to the monsters that you hear stories about. Cryptids are real, and humans are still afraid of them.
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>>2567853
What are your favorite places in MA? Going there soon, never been before
--- 2573488
>>2572326
We all do.which is why people convince themselves it's real
--- 2573508
>>2554084 (OP)
Its because big scary shit live in the woods here. 
The worst thing that EU has to deal with is wolves (Which most got hunted out) and small (Relatively) bears. 

Then going over to america you got mothing fucking grizzlies, Kodiak bears, moutain lions, a lot more wolves. Remember that when settlers frist game here and started to report back about Grizzlies they actually thought they were making it up and bull shitting thats how insane the shit was that we had over here was. 

EU inna woods nature if you are not stupid wont fuck you to bad. in the west, nature is ACTIVLY fucking trying to kill you every step of the way.
--- 2573617
>>2573508
Europe minus Russia and even Scandinavia has 3-4 times as many brown bears as the lower 48 of the US and twice as many wolves. Europe also has about twice as many moose as the US as a whole. US farmers and hunters absolutely decimated the populations about 100 years ago and they are barely recovering and 3 states they are starting to recover unlimited tag hunts have reopened which will halt and reverse their recovery. The lower 48 of the US does have a lot more game like black bears, coyote, deer (over twice as much), mountain lion and about the same number of elk size game (red deer) compared with Europe though. Another common misconception is that Europe has less forest, it actually has slightly more total forest than the US as a whole, it's just mostly concentrated in eastern and northern Europe and has much less wilderness or continuously unbroken wild areas.
--- 2573625
>>2567043
Tell that to the college kids buried outside Matamoros.
--- 2573647
>>2573480
Idunno what tourists do, I just muck around the woods and farms around my hometown. There are a lot of nice trails through dunes in the more remote parts of Cape Cod which is cool, state parks and reserves are all pretty unremarkable but nothing beats a nice New England swamp. It depends where you're going anon. The Berkshires are really nice and still lots of tracts of old growth in there too.

If you like the ocean there's tons of nice shoreline and deep sea fishing and stuff which is a lot more fun than it sounds and the times I've been I've caught so many god damn cod, eels, and shark that I almost couldn't fit it all in the freezer

if you're into having wart-faced old dudes suck you off the Fens in Boston offers this in all seasons
--- 2573648
>>2573647
also one of the setpiece Orca boats from when they filmed Jaws is remarkably still left abandoned on an isolated shoreline in Martha's Vineyard if you're into particularly difficult and unrewarding urbex
--- 2573651
>>2554084 (OP)
>I think I had a legitimate encounter with a feral man in Tennessee.
Me too it was on the pedestrian bridge in downtown Nashville.
--- 2573669
>>2554088
What do those feral people eat living in the forest?, and what do they do all the time there alone in the forest?, just scare people hiking?, do they live in huts or where?
--- 2573874
>>2573647
>>2573648
Thanks anon. I have family in Cape Cod and a bit outside Springfield so I’ll be going around all over the state. I’ll definitely check out dune trails and look for some nice swamps

Would be fun to do some fishing and other sea foraging around Cape Cod / Martha’s Vineyard! I’ve fished crabs and lobster in other areas before so might give that a shot
--- 2574183
>>2563084
lmao
--- 2574572
>>2570186

Is this Aussie? Just freaking Marsupials man, if there is any taxonomy on land that could hide a fucking giant monster its Marsupials.
--- 2574578
>>2574574
I see lots of faces
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>>2574578

Nikau Palms. 

These ones are my favorite, Mountain Nei Nei, they have these bendy appendages that look like they have heads on the end and all ways seem to look different every time you walk past the same one. Bark looks like skin. I make up story's to myself about Nei Nei man and freak myself out...
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>>2574583
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>>2574584
they look like some kind of weird jim henson muppet monsters that are about to come to life
--- 2574588
>>2574587

They move when you're not looking at them I swear
--- 2574590
I had an experience last time I went backpacking. I was sleeping and woke up in the middle of the night, heard something or someone say something like "hey watch this" and my tent started shaking like crazy, like someone was outside just shaking the shit out of it. Creeped me out. Still can't tell if it was a dream or not.
--- 2574602
>>2574590
were you camping along a trail or a designated camping area or was this totally randomly in the middle of the woods?

also ßump limit reached, which is sad because this has been my favourite thread on /out/ the last month and a half :[
--- 2574614
>>2562340
I don't usually believe in spirits in my day to day life but when I'm hiking in the forest it's fun to think about all the spirits that are whispering around me. It also makes me respect the forest even more because I don't want to upset any of them.
--- 2574626
>>2554090
The Appalachian mountain ranges have been around millions of years, stretching back to pangea, if the supernatural exists, no doubt theres been some creepy shit there
--- 2574634
>>2554084 (OP)
Can confirm. Its like no other, specifically the old pangean Appalachian range, although the rest of the forests are fine. I go /out/ in the bush at night (Aussie) and all I worry about is snipers and running into some rabid abo, I've been to japan and all the asian countries, their forests are almost inviting even in pitch black. But the US, Canada, Some of iceland and the highlands are just different. No doubt some freaky ancient shit going on there.
--- 2574706
>>2572357
why are you trying to turn me on!
--- 2574718
Despite that I find 85% of these adult campfire stories to be fake and gay, I will admit that the Appalachian mountains do have this eeriness to them that I can't explain. I am much more on edge camping in them then when I was in the Rockies or Cascades even though both of those ranges contain much more dangerous critters and geography.
--- 2574757
>>2572097
I recognize that gay blow job!
--- 2574851
>>2564666
Satanic trips of truth
I had some "fun" experiences with sleep deprivation where the involuntary twitching of your eye convinces you that inanimate objects are moving, or that the shadows shifting in the corner are strange people. Felt sort of poetic when I was in the woods, felt lurid when I was in my shitty apartment
--- 2574949
>>2574706

You'll smell them before you see them.
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>>2574602
I was camping in a designated spot, I was at a trail camp with 3 other people in my campsite but I know they wouldn't do that since none of us knew eachother that well.
--- 2575004
>>2574997
sounds like someone was passing through at night an having a larff. they wouldn't do that nowadays on account of the strict shoot-first-ask-questions-never policy sweeping the nation
--- 2575030
>>2574572
You thought drop bears are a meme, didn’t you?
--- 2575436
Thanks for the best thread on /ck/ in a long time bros. I'll see you all in the next thread of similar ilk.
--- 2575517
>>2554164
Disappearances are due to Bohemian Grove Jews lusting to sacrifize white people to their Jew God.
--- 2575518
>>2554233
This. Its Bohemian Grove Jews. Get that in your stupid brains.
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>>2554084 (OP)
American forests are actual wild forests that can go on miles away from civilization. Europe is mostly just tree plantations.
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>>2554084 (OP)
Appalachian anon here. I don't know much about them yet, but I 100% believe that some kind of spirits inhabit North America and those who were here before us understood them better than we do. Tbere's always the cultural norms argument but I think there's a reason some of the world's most productive societies (as opposed to say, the Chinese) developed so many spirits which were haunted by greed. Injuns kept the spirits contained. I've been in the woods since I was a kid. I hunt and backpack solo all the time, always walking across the hills. I've seen 
>mysterious noises of metal creaking that very obviously came from a very small area, but where I couldn't find anything to cause them. I heard the noises no matter whether the wind was blowing, time of day, etc. Gives me chills and makes my eyes water to think about it. 
>rattlesnake coming out of the brush at me in PA on a forty degree, rainy morning. Some wacky shit had already gone down on this trip so I connected this to it - from what I know snakes out in open ground in weather like that are not super likely. 
>getting into my tent and seeing the space between the rainfly and tent covered in bugs, like 50-60. Assumed there was some explanation but this has never happened to me before in decades outdoors and hasn't happened since. 
>the spots where the birds don't sing
Don't be aggressive, don't look back or be afraid. You are a guest. Act like one and you have nothing to fear. Don't trash the woods. I don't ever use drugs and only drink a bit from a flask in the woods. I don't use a flashlight while hiking at night unless I have to, like looking through a bag. Some things are meant to sleep in the dark. The world isn't there to make it your own.
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>>2574851
Ah man had this first time I went camping in the smokies, inexperienced so didnt prepare for the cold and slept in a fuckin hammock to top it off. Couldnt sleep and thought I was seeing UFOs and hearing shit. Rough time but thats what I get for being an idiot