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What's the most you've ever felt disappointed with in a game?
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>>634314047 (OP)
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>guild wars 2
>doesn't have fucking guild wars
>is a terrible themepark stackfest
Its only merit is that it pays for the GW1 hosting.
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>>634314047 (OP)
I will never let CDPR do that to me again. I'm probably going to just pirate TW4 when it comes out because they owe me a functional game still. I'm sure I'll have to wait for a crack because their consumer-friend status just fades more and more by the year and it will just be straight up DRM.
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>>634314457
it's not TW4. They're doing a full remake of the first game. And it's actually the first video game CDPR ever made.
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>>634314650
Not sure why you’re correcting him. They are in fact working on a new Witcher trilogy. It was announced over a year ago. The Witcher 1 remake is in addition to this, not instead of it.
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>>634315041
Yea they working on:
Cp2077 dlc
Witcher 1 remake
Witcher 4
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>>634314047 (OP)
For a game I was anticipating, Spore.
For a game I was playing that was updated into unplayable, Star Wars Galaxies.
I'll never forgive John Smedley. On my death bed, I'll still curse his name.
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>>634314457
What's the problem with Cyberpunk?
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>>634314047 (OP)
tales of arise, last of us pc port
elden ring so overrated
Hogwart legacy
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>>634314047 (OP)
How can you feel disappointed with a game that got axed in the middle of development?
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>>634315153
they should just stop making new shit with 2077 and just make a new cyberpunk game. I still don't know how they managed to fuck it up so bad considering they made The Witcher 2 with exclusive paths to choose which meant for greater replay-ability. If they had just done with for all the playable classes and characters that we were promised in that same TW2 style as well as third-person camera, we would have a much better game.
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>>634315393
Nothing
I skip reading all schizo hear
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I knew it was gonna be bad, but I was not expecting it to be that bad. All trailers were completely fake, that kind of shit should be illegal.
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>>634315517
No
Im so hyped for cp2077 dlc
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>>634314047 (OP)
GTA IV and then GTA V
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>>634314047 (OP)
>Bloodlines 2
How you can be dissapointed by Vaporware?
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>>634315393
promised to be an expansive, multi pathing RPG, wasn’t. You play as a pre-made character with its own personality 

game promised a ton of features, didn’t deliver most of them

game launched borderline unplayable, even bricked some devices.

blah blah
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>>634315393
they literally changed it's own description of the game from RPG to action-adventure or action-narrative or some bullshit.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Witcher 3 unironically.
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>>634317532
Oh no
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>>634314047 (OP)
I had just started high school when it came out and I bought it with all of the money I had been saving for half a year or so. It was the first time I'd ever been disappointed with a game. I even preordered it (first and last time I've ever done that).
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>>634314047 (OP)
Speaking of Bloodlines, the guy who created the HD mod for McGee's Alice is working on a HD mod for VTMB including an UI overhaul which is the biggest thing for me. Anyone tried it yet?
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>>634315393
It was unplayable on PS4. The rest is just schizoposting from people who got hyped for GTA 6 and got a mashup of Witcher 3 and VtM: Bloodlines.
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>>634318591
>got a mashup of Witcher 3 and VtM: Bloodlines.
fucking lmao in what universe?
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Were people really disappointed over 2077? I had already played TW3 and found it pretty mediocre, and Cyberpunk just seemed too good to be true from its first major announcement, especially considering it was the people behind The Witcher.
Only thing that surprised me was how unfinished it really was. Even if it had been "finished" on release it would've been, again, mediocre. CDPR just aren't talented.
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>>634318569
No, first I hear about it. Good luck with that, Source engine is notoriously finnicky.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Persona 5.
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>>634318404
It took you 6 months to save $60?
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>>634318994
When your 14 and have no job yeah.
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>>634318869
In every possible universe. If you don't see blatant inspirations from Witcher 3 and Bloodlines in Cyberpunk, you are blind or haven't played the game and are just shitposting. The entire quest design structure is lifted directly from Witcher 3. Mission structure is Bloodlines/Deus Ex. Not to mention the smaller shit.
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>>634318905
>>634318569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Xsl6H54dY [Embed]
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>>634319151
>inspirations
Sure
It being at all like either Witcher 3 or bloodlines? Not at all.
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>>634318396
I'll let you in on the secret. 4chan is the only site left that still has a hateboner for Cyberpunk. The rest has either moved on or came around to liking it after the game was patched to hell and back.
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>>634319668
It was very much modeled after Witcher 3, from the quest design to mechanics. If you don't see it, you either haven't played Cyberpunk, or haven't played Witcher 3. You even get a Roach summon button.
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>>634319972
Then they definitely screwed up the model.
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>>634320146
Yeah, because the open world design in Witcher 3 was so meticulously crafted.
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>>634320325
Compared to cybershit? Yeah. 
That's not the only thing it did better.
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>>634317532
I weep that I have to listen to this schizbabble whenever I want to discuss cdpr games on 4chan

Eat your meds or kys
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>>634314047 (OP)
everyday I am deeply disappointed by cyberpunk. at this point I think the industry is so far up its ass and catering to people who don't play videogames that we're never going to get another real RPG ever again. let alone the next new vegas or vtmb etc.
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>>634320806
You do realize that VtM:B was as linear as Cyberpunk if not more so? You like it because of the stellar atmosphere, not for the deep RPG mechanics.
I've beaten this game 16 times, I am allowed to realize the blatant flaws this game has.
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>>634321060
Why are you equating having an open world with being an RPG?
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>>634321143
I'm not equating anything. I'm just pointing out the obvious.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Elden Ring, and RE 4 R. There are far worse games, but those two really disappointed me. Elden Ring with its grueling 90 hour campaign filled with very low quality content. RE4 R with it dumbing down lots of its content and feeling more like another modern cinematic turd instead of a game.
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>>634321269
The guy didn't say anything about how cyberpunk is bad cause it's linear.
You brought that up for no reason.
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Why /v/ is shizo den
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>>634321390
Nah, I am just amused that everybody is shitting on Cyberpunk and praising VtM:B to high heavens, when VtM:B has the exact same design problems Cyberpunk had. Meaning, no choices and consequences, railroaded dialogue, linear quests, endings that you pick arbitrarily and so on. I am just tired of double standards.
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how the FUCK has this series been around as long as it has and there is still NO option to have sex with the monsters? im outraged.
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>>634321726
I will give you just one example that proves you wrong.

You can make Jeanette and Therese make up if you pick the right dialogue options. 

Give me an equivalent of that in cyberpunk.
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>>634314047 (OP)
somehow makes Dragon Age 2 look like a good game, which is a difficult task
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>>634322209
So, the ending that gives you option A, option B or option C if you are not retarded? That's easy.
>Flathead quest.
>River nephew's quest.
>Voodoo Boys quest.
Even that stupid racing quest has this.
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Company of Heroes 3
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>>634317532
it says "rpg" again now, both on steam and gog
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>>634322410
I played both back in 2011 and had a great time
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>>634322506
> if you are not retarded?
Huh? What do you mean retarded? lol
You need to outright flirt with the sisters to get that outcome.
>Flathead quest.
>River nephew's quest.
>Voodoo Boys quest.
Aren't these just flat choices?
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>>634321726
Don't compare VTM to CP77 dude, you're not going to win because one is a video game the other is a cinematic turd that often plays itself. CP77 does make for a really good experience, but its supper pozzed, vile at times, no choices that matter, and Johnny's dialogue is made by a cringy teenager who thinks swearing 10 times per sentence makes you cool.
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>>634321726
There are some consequeces to your actions in vtmb. Anyways, how does a AAA blockbuster game have the same kind of problems as a rushed game on a pre-alpha engine that was forced to release the same day as hl2? Also, vtmb is mostly praised by it's character writing (and actually insane facial animations), it's great atmosphere and it's moody soundtrack.
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When I was younger, Final Fantasy XIII. What I played in the past with my bed taste made it seem like they'd smashed all of them out if the park. Then XIII was just utterly fucking miserable to slog through
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>>634322849
>You need to outright flirt with the sisters to get that outcome.
No you don't. The game just fools you into thinking this. What matters is the final conversation and you having enough points into persuation.
>Aren't these just flat choices?
No, they have consequences down the line. Minor ones, but they are there. You can complete some other quests easier if you befriended Maelstorm previously, and Voodoo boys aren't hostile to you if you didn't genocide their bosses. If you did, there are less of them, but they attack you on sight.
That's less of a flat choice than picking Janette or Therese, because YOU NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN so it doesn't matter which one survives. You only get some bonus XP I've you've saved both.
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>>634315320
>For a game I was playing that was updated into unplayable, Star Wars Galaxies.
Has there ever been a worse example of this than SWG? It's like they killed the game overnight, and they KNEW how bad it was because they kept it under the wraps. I say fuck both NGE and CU for tearing the soul out of the game.
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>>634318882
same, but i liked both games. CP77 is literally witcher 3 with guns and all it took was to look at the devs interview to figure it out.
The problem were people who expected gta77 and the retarded marketing was far too eager to trick them, even removing the rpg moniker from twitter. So, of course, when gta niggers got their hands on a game that was never trying to be a gta game they were baffled
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>>634314047 (OP)
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>>634323274
>What matters is the final conversation and you having enough points into persuation.
You're wrong. I know this cause I played VTMB a year ago.
>No, they have consequences down the line.
No, what I meant to say by that is you don't need a special dialogue over several quests, you just get to pick between 1 or the other.
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>>634323727
>You're wrong. I know this cause I played VTMB a year ago.
I've replayed it two months ago. Look, I know what I'm saying, I know this game inside and out. You really don't need a good standing with both of them, only the final dialogue and high Persuasion matters.
>No, what I meant to say by that is you don't need a special dialogue over several quests, you just get to pick between 1 or the other.
I don't get you.
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>>634324051
> I know this game inside and out.
How can you be this confident when a simple google search would've proved you wrong?
Open your eyes and read.
https://vtmb.fandom.com/wiki/Sibling_Rivalry

>The relationship status for each sister is stored in a separate variable, G.Therese_Seduce and G.Jeanette_Seduce. The default values of both variables are 0 and are influenced via the dialogue choices made during each conversation with either sister. Seductive or flattering answers increase the corresponding variable, insults or offensive suggestions reduce it and neutral answers have no impact. In the original game each value needs to be both at least 4 and equal to the other. In Unofficial Patch Plus both values need to be equal to or larger than 4 but do not have to be equal to each other.
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>>634324268
You get all four of those points in the final conversation as well.
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>>634324476
Have you tried actually playing the game you're trying to pass yourself as an authority on?
You do not get 4 points with either sister in the final conversation.
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>>634324635
The final conversation is a last-ditch attempt go garner those points, that's what I'm saying.
Also, none of this matters, because there are no consequences to this choice anyway. It doesn't matter which sister survives, because you never see them again. Bloodlines only fools you into thinking it has any choices and consequences. 
Go ahead, try joining the Anarchs, see what happens.
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>>634324921
>The final conversation is a last-ditch attempt go garner those points, that's what I'm saying.
Except you can't. It doesn't matter what choices you pick in the final dialogue if you don't have enough points prior to it.

Play the game before trying to discuss it, you dumb nigger.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Shenmue 3
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>>634315393
Its existence
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>>634315393
Where have you been for the past 5 years
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>>634314047 (OP)
Brutal legend. Took me 10 minutes to post because I couldn't remember the games actual title. I've always just referred to it as Brutal Disappointment.
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>>634319432
>changes the main menu music
>removes hub music
What the fuck is this faggot's problem?
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>>634328860
it's a trailer. I think the mod will just change the graphics.
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>>634329062
No, it pretty much says it switches out the music/sounds, though you can opt out of it thankfully.
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MVCI. The graphics, the mechanics, the abandonment. Ragnarok Online 1 and 2, the abandonment and milking. AOE online
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>>634315614
We were robbed
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>people are STILL mad about Cyberpunk

I will never understand how anyone, /v/ most of all, let themselves get THAT hyped for it. I expect TW3 (also a buggy game with ads that didn't reflect gameplay) with guns, reel back after it had been delayed multiple times, played it after the first big patch, enjoyed it a lot. People overstate how much they """promised""", much of which they never actually """promised""" at all, then get mad that the game they'd imagined in their head wasn't what they'd bought. The best example being the ridable metro.
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>>634329602
People had pretty low expectations of it after the demo's and other videos came out.
It was just an inherently broken and shallow game.
Even the GTA comparisons prior to release tuned out to be too optimistic.
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>>634315393
It's a tabletop RPG crammed into a AAA videogame format. Complete with full voice acting and a strong focus on style over substance. Super-duper-cutting-edge grafixx aside, it doesn't offer anything substantial to set it apart from similar titles. Retards hyped it up well beyond CDPR's ability to deliver, as per usual.

By all means, buy it on sale and play it through once if you like the setting or whatever. Just don't expect anything special.
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Pre-woke era: FF13. I was itching for a high budget HD JRPG and it was a huge letdown. I honestly don't think the void has been filled too, FF15 though better was meh and other JRPGS are more PS2.5 graphics. 

Post-woke era: Dragon Age 2. The first one was really nice but this was offensively bad. It wasn't just that the game was bad in itself, it was a horrific vision of things to come.
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>>634314385
Came here to post this.
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>>634315509
game is still being developed by new devs.
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>>634329602
babbys first hype train to disappointment
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>>634314047 (OP)
idk how you can put bloodlines 2 on here without it being out

Cyberpunk for sure tho, nothing will ever compare. Behind that, maybe The Evil Within 2
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Star Wars Battlefront (2015)
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>>634321726
>VTM:B and CP2077 are the same because... they just are, okay?
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TLOU 2 story wise (gameplay delivered at least)
REmake 3 being 70% cut (original was my all time fav RE)
GTA 5 story wise (terrible characters, map was a huge let down too)
Nu-GOWs as a whole
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>the game is supposed to be about "managing your own kingdom"
>it's actually just overglorified Baldur's Gate with occasional moral choices
>the actual "kingdom management" is effectively just a minigame you play from time to time
>they even let you automatize this little tidbit because it's somehow too much for retards who would rather just play Baldur's Gate with waifus instead
I have played some truly bad shit in the last 20 years of my gaming career. This game, however, is the only one that flat-out disappointed me.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Rome 2. I actually built my first gaming rig for that game, bought day 1 and it was a total shitshow. Have never pre-ordered a game thanks to that.
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>>634321726
They're not alike at all. Regarding bugs bloodlines was the first spruce engine game and they had to rush, CP2077 was the follow up to a highly successful game that was developed at a snails pace. Another mojar point which is probably too much for your abstractless NPC brain is Bloodlines is very well written and immersive, CP2077 is not.
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>>634333565
>spruce engine
>mojar
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>>634314047 (OP)
empire total war
it got full mark reviews everywhere but did not work out of the box
a valuable lesson it killed my excitement for everything
never again
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>>634333625
Yes it's 2008+15 and people us cell phones prone to typos/autocorrect.
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>>634314047 (OP)
launch day cyberjunk 2077 on ps4. that shit was traumatic.
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>>634314047 (OP)
nu-GoW. I hadn't really been paying much attention attention to games at the time and had only vaguely heard about it. I liked the trilogy a lot as a kid, just stupid fast paced fun, and was excited about it. It came out and I picked it up and went in completely blind. 

I maybe wasn't expecting fixed camera, but at worst I was expecting something like DMC 5. Instead we got over the shoulder cinematic view dark souls but slower. No jumping around, no crazy combo counts, lame animations. Not only that, but I gotta take care of this fucking kid and then I gotta twirl my thumb sticks to save this magic fucking boar. 

It was devastating to say the least. I sailed around the lake a bit, fought a few more dudes, then threw it away.
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>>634333778
>mobileposting
GTFO
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>>634334032
LOTRmansayingnodramatically.gif
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>>634315393
Somebody post this yet?
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>>634323276
I can't think of one, even trying to be objective it's still absolutely heinous. Especially releasing the Obi-Wan expac a week before utterly ruining the game, they knew exactly what they were doing.
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>>634314208
I've yet to play it, The Guild 2 is fun but far too easy.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Ark survival evolved because I bought it on EA
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>>634314047 (OP)
Dark Souls 2, Mass Effect 3 and Twilight Princess.
I knew Cyberpunk was going to be polished dogshit thanks to all of its delays and that dodgy gameplay reveal.
>634315320
>For a game I was playing that was updated into unplayable, Star Wars Galaxies.
Another good answer as well. They literally butchered one of the best MMOs ever with all of those shitty "updates."
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>>634314047 (OP)
Mario Party on N64
As it was a new game coming out with no previous entries in the series, I got this game back in the day and was very disappointed when I found out that it's not fun to play singleplayer in the slightest. I later had fun with it on occasion when friends were over, but aside from those short bursts of fun it was a waste of money and I could have gotten a game I would have enjoyed a lot more if I knew exactly what it was before getting it.
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>>634320572
that's just future metro, man
why u gotta be so angry
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MGSV.
I'm mostly just mad about the whole switcharoo, considering how it was marketed as BiBio's final descent into villainy, and we got none of that, coupled with the Kingdom of Flies shit getting cut.
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>>634321060
Cyberpunk being linear is only like 5% of why it's so shitty
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>>634320572
How do you even end up leaving something like this in game? And then have the audacity to call it fine crafted masterpiece with attention to detial? And how hard it is to make object just follow a damn line?

I kinda get the dismissal of exotic feature wishes or cries for more content. But this is just plain broken. No way this can be put under unrealistic player expectations or similar excuses...
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>>634314047 (OP)
Can you be disappointed with a game that never came out?
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>>634316812
>You play as a pre-made character with its own personality 
/v/ doesn't seem to mind KCD
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>>634314047 (OP)
Hard choice.
It's either Majesty 2 or Disciples 3.
Pic related as well.
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>>634336842
>/v/ doesn't seem to mind KCD
Cyberpunk promised character creation with a plethora of options, on top of being based on an existing game where you could likewise create a character with a lot of freedom - that's the difference.
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>>634337043
Okay but who cares what they promised? They don't owe you anything. Always wait for the finished product.
Same as with politicians, they will say anything to be elected then do whatever they want.
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>>634314047 (OP)
But Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines 2 is not out yet???

Mine would be Gothic 3. 

Gothic 1 and 2 + blood of the raven were amazing. Third was a dogshit and a chore to finish.
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>>634337448
>be told to expect a blowjob
>get slapped on the balls instead
>who cares what they promised?
Nobody forced them to make thise promises. The press and fans fanned the flames of hype, but CDPR lit it.
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>>634336690
>Yeah let me drive down this empty road 
>Look away for a moment 
>vehicle spawns in front of your car
Good thing you cant shoot out of your car. How can anyone say this game is now fixed? We had this "technology" for 20 years, GTA3 never did this so what the fuck
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>>634337453
>Gothic 3
Good one. I remember how unplayable that game was without SSD, when no one had SSD.
I didn't bother to reinstall it since launch and I've played only a couple of hours.
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>>634337724
You don't rate a game from broken promises, but the finished product, anon.
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Smash Brothers Brawl. My friends and I played Melee and 64 to death. First thing I did every morning was look up the updates on Smash Dojo. I even went to the midnight release. Then we actually played the game and it felt like the characters were wading through molasses when trying to move and Subspace Emissary was a disappointing mess. I was horrified and most of us quickly dropped it in favor of Melee and 64. I'll never forget how hyped and then let down we were.
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>>634337916
No game exists in a vacuum. When you say it's gonna be one thing, and it's something else, it will affect perception.
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The winner is Guild Wars 2, but runners up include Borderlands, Destiny, and Cyberpunk. GW2 wins because GW1 had so many interesting concepts that made it great and GW2 just decided to shitcan all of them and be really generic, plus it just became more of a mess with every update
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DMC2.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Master of Orion 3.
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>>634333447
>Baldur's Gate with waifus instead
So just Baldur's Gate. Don't even pretend like the female characters in Baldur's Gate weren't there to satisfy horny geeks.
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>>634338069
Sounds like a you issue. I would just call you a retard for listening to and believing anything BIG CORP NR.3 promises. I rate games on their finished product, not what they could have been.
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>>634338572
And what is the finished product? A mediocre unpolished mess, in both tonal and technical sense. It could've and should've been more, but you do you, if you are so easily satisfied.
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>>634337762
>GTA3 never did this
Ohh they all did. Just 20 years ago devs had enough sense to make it unobvious. That's one of the 2077 apologists thesis - we'd need supercomputers for what you're asking. Nah, noones asking simulating universe. The animations just need to make sense and blend. Could be done with 2000s tech.

And the big issue isn't those glaring visual examples. The issue is that the whole game is like that. Mechanics. World. Story. It's all ductaped to make game-looking surrogate around weak story that barely carries it. E.g. Radio stations are so few and short you've looped trough them one third trough main story and it feels like listening to CD instead of live station in living city. Playing identical news on all channels at same time doesn't help either. Take any aspect. And it's all like that.
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>>634338793
>You play as a pre-made character with its own personality in Cyberpunk
BAD
>You play as a pre-made character with its own personality in KCD
PURE LUDOKINO
I'm just noooooooooticing inconsistencies
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>>634339070
>why are people complaining that the subway isnlt functional in CP77, I donlt hear anyone complaining that the subway isn't functional in Call of Duty, wtf
Henry is a character with a pre-established backstory and role in the world, as was Geralt. V is a nobody from nowhere with custom appearance and backstory. You are complaining that
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>>634339657
*that people expected CDPR to simply just adhere to the core tenets of this existing IP.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Cyberpunk without question
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>>634315517
>I still don't know how they managed to fuck it up so bad
allegedly they were horrifically mismanaged and actually developing two Cyberpunks at the same time.
Their very public high turnover rate at the time would seem to back up these rumors.
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>>634314047 (OP)
X Rebirth
I will never buy an X game again.
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Literally the worst interpretation of Warhammer fantasy I've ever played.
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>>634314047 (OP)
MGS4
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>>634339657
your analogy sucks ass
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>>634340183
So it's a perfect fit for the game in question.
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>>634337916
>You don't rate a game from broken promises
I do, actually.
If the finished product does not meet expectations then it is a bad product.
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>>634340475
I have never played CP77 and never will
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>>634340559
You are defending a game you haven't even played?
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>>634320572
>>634336690
does anyone have the webm of the crowd of people running when the player sees them and then being erased from existence when he turns around?
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>>634340716
As I explained, I'm just pointing out and noooticing inoncistencies. 
One game is good and is doing A, the other is bad because the devs promised B but it became A. Suddenly A is not so good anymore.
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>>634341001
You are so fucking stupid
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>>634341001
If I promise you I'll pave your driveway and instead I fuck your wife, does it matter how good an orgasm your wife has while your driveway is still unpaved?
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>>634339859
There's no proof to this post but then again storyfags nowadays are all woke or have to obey """their""" rules or risk being canceled.
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>>634340740
No.. but i can tell you about that one time when B8 was just randomly lying on street and i tried to get help in pharmacy. AFAIK she stayed on that table for rest of that playtrough...
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>>634341001
Yes, promise A - deliver A - be praised
Promise B - deliver A - get shat on
I don't know why it's so hard for you to grasp that getting coal for Christmas isn't cool when you are promised an actual gift.
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>>634341119
>you are promising to help me, but then hurt me. 
>thinks this is a proper analogy
>>634341083
low iq, you wouldn't get it
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>>634341238
Because they are not gifting you anything, but trying to rob you of your hard earned money by creating [product]. You seem entitled.
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>>634341428
>you are promising to help me, but then hurt me. 
At least you are begining to understand.
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>>634339859
Yeah. It made sense for Cyberpunk to go into a Witcher 2 scenario with different exclusive paths because they've done it before and it was successful. 

I don't understand why we were given something that lacked choices and why we had to be in first-person only when every other one of their games were in third-person. It makes no sense when you have cybernetics and go into melee combat where you do a lot of stuff with your arms and legs to not be able to show that. Imagine making a new Witcher game that is first-person only. It would be awful and nobody would buy that shit.
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>>634341428
-Your entire argument relies upon "whataboutism" like a whiny baby.
-You haven't even PLAYED the game you're arguing about.
-You are so delusional that you think the average person is obligated to completely ignore all news and advertisement for a product before its release. As if video game and movie companies don't both spend millions of dollars on advertising and publicity.
YOU are low IQ. You have the audacity to make a false argument in bad faith for something that you don't even have experience with. Shut the fuck up
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>>634341573
You guys seem to put way too much emphasis on what the (((devs))) say to advertise their game, rather than the game for what it is.
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>>634322410
If you honestly think DA2 is somehow better than you are brain-dead.
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>>634341896
I'm sorry you feel that way, and I hope the butthurt stops relatively soon.
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>>634342010
You put way too much emphasis on that driveway you wanted, just look at the glow on your wife now that she's had a good fuck.
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>>634341590
>given something that lacked choices
IMHO biggest crime is they had enough content to build fully fleshed life paths. They just said fuck it and releaset it all as one big diharrea. And now you can shag a cop while you're in relationship with whore gang authority all the while killing other gang members with no consequence. That's where shit priorities and over inflated ego morons get you.
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>>634315582
The lenghts coomsumers go to defend goyslop is baffling.
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>>634325107
I saw a youtube video that debated how to salvage this game and the whole franchise at least a bit

make the final boss flinch at the move you're training on all bosses before him
god, japs are so stupid sometimes
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>>634314047 (OP)
These two desu. Coming from someone who is a big fan of their predecessors, I can't believe that the devs screwed the pooch so hard. It's even worse in Fromsoft's case, as they had time to correct their mistake with the next entry, but no. They shat out Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3. Thank you From. Very cool.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Arkham Knight. The story was atrocious, half the game was Batmobile combat. Just a waste
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I give SOE an A for effort, but MMORPGs shouldn't be on consoles and this proved it beyond any shadow of a doubt. Yuck.
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>>634325107
Only a handful of good games have ever come out of Kickstarter, I don't know how it still stays afloat.
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>>634342606
How do you talk to other people in that game?
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>>634318591
>hyped for GTA 6 and got a mashup of Witcher 3 and VtM: Bloodlines
>got a mashup of Witcher 3 and VtM: Bloodlines

Then there's even less excuse for the state It was in and how barebones the main campaign was.
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>>634316812
>game launched borderline unplayable, even bricked some devices.
Played from start to finish within the first two week of release. Never got a CTD or any game breaking bug. Worse I had is Jackie going through an elevator door and a quest not updating after visiting the Doc the first time, which required restarting the game. Unless you were playing on console, the game was technically ok. PC version of CP2077 at release was more stable and less bug-ridden than Bethesda games two years post-release, so yeah. 
Console release was an absolute shame though. That was complete dogshit and they should have canned it entierly.
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>>634342256
The difference is, you don't lose anything by getting game A instead of game B. I now have a dirty driveway and got cucked on top.
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>>634342809
>you don't lose anything by getting game A instead of game B
I lose game B.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Considering one of those hasn't come out, I'm still going to say Bloodlines 2. Dumping Avellone and firing Mitsoda make me sad.
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>>634342871
>Game B doesn't exist
>Dev promises game B
>Delivers game A
>See that promised game B is actually game A
>Don't buy it
haven't lost anything.
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>>634342787
I don't know if this is a shill or retard that trying to justify his wasted money.
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>>634343078
>haven't lost anything.
I have lost game B.
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>>634322410
>somehow makes Dragon Age 2 look like a good game
that is, no exaggeration, the worst game i have ever played to completion
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>>634343621
you can't lose something that doesn't exist
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>>634342486
>hating on Bloodborne
Maybe your taste is just shit
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>>634343776
so you wouldn't mind having a miscarriage because that son doesn't exist?
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>>634342520
Don't forget zero real boss fights
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>>634343912
Why are you so bad at analogies. That son physically exists in the womb.
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>>634344023
And Game B physically existed in development, until they pivoted and made something else instead.
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>>634344101
>Game B physically existed in development
how do you know that
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>>634337043
>Cyberpunk promised
cyberpunk ttrpg promised
where did cdpr promise, beyond decade old speculation and interviews prior to scope changes within the project? im sure they intended to do a lot of things, like mantis claws climbing on walls, but had to radically shift scope due to developing for, what, 5 total consoles to ship on and keep some semblance of feature parity?
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>>634344145
how do you know your son was in the womb?
could be your wife was just fat.
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>>634338793
>A mediocre unpolished mess
nta but yes it was at release. however, instead of complaining about all the criticism they got, CDPR changed their road map and have spent literal years as of now fixing the game. commendable effort for a single player only game. it runs great now, for the most part. played it earlier this year and only experienced one or two crashes. its a situation similar to no mans sky, but attached to a better game imo
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>>634344264
Okay now you're just grasping at straws.
You get an ultrasound, you can feel the babies kicks etc.
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>>634344601
>You get an ultrasound, you can feel the babies kicks etc.
You do developer interviews, you can look at pre-release matrerial etc.
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>>634339070
I agree with your point largely, but comparing the development power behind CP77 and KCD is frankly a poor argument.
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>>634341238
>Promise B - Realize B is undeliverable without massive work - Begin shifting to A - Spend years previewing content demonstrating implementation of A - deliver A - get shat on
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>>634345004
>Spend years previewing content demonstrating implementation of A
but they didn't, they continued to "demonstrate" and talk about B, then didn't publish anything of substance for 6 mohths pre-launch, then launched a steaming turd
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I tried playing og re4 after playing the remake fkin yikes
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>>634344709
Where's the footage then, of said promised game? Even if the game "existed", it didn't exist for you because you wouldn't be able to access it, since it's a dev build.
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>>634341590
>Yeah. It made sense for Cyberpunk to go into a Witcher 2 scenario with different exclusive paths because they've done it before and it was successful.
>they've done it before 
yes
>and it was successful
ehhhh...
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>>634345198
even if your son "existed", it didn't exist for you because you wouldn't be able to access it, since it's unborn.
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>>634342520
still remember the bug i had on pc release. only living screenshot, but every surface in the city was covered in some kind of slime filter or just stark white like this. as far as i know, i was the only one who had this. terrible release
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>>634314047 (OP)

Resident Evil 5 and The Evil Within 1
Thankfully, replays of RE5 with co-op are a blast (the game is mediocre but co-op is so much fun) and The Evil Within 2 was actually a really good game. The scenes where you swap from controlling Sebastian in the Mobius world to Kidman in the real world was pure kino
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>>634342871
you cant lose something that never existed except in your mind
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>>634345238
giving a mostly linear game an exclusive branched plotline will give the game more playing hours through replaying it
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>>634345505
and yet the entire economy operates on costs of lost opportunity.
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>>634345097
i dunno man, i was pretty skeptical during the first public showings that what i wanted and what i was getting werent one and the same
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>>634345267
But I don't have to have access to an unborn child (still in womb) for it to exist. It exists in the womb and I can feel its influence in my life, and therefore it is existing.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Total War Warhammer 3
I just wanted more races and a bigger map. Maybe improved sieges. 
Why did they have to fuck with everything. The UI is so ugly, the maps suck and unit interactions are worse
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>>634345537
It's more of a closed loop than anything, since both branches end up at Loc Muinne and the game just outright considers Roche the canon choice since Iorveth isn't even in the third game. Plus, most of the branch specific content is locked behind 4-7 hours of repeated gameplay to get to that point.

Experimentation that is commendable, yes. But not worth it from a development point I think.
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>>634337916
>Oh the product I paid for is not the one I was promised
>Oh well at least I have whatever it ended up being
I hope you choke on your own spit you mongoloid retard piece of shit, its because of people like you that these kinds of games will keep being made followed by controvery after controversy until the general public just stops caring and embraces being ass raped by the companies.
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>>634345823
>But I don't have to have access to an unborn child (still in womb) for it to exist.
and I don't have to have access to an unreleased game (still in development) for it to exist.
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>>634315320
>game I was playing that was updated into unplayable, Star Wars Galaxies.
Wat? How does someone update something into being unplayable besides just taking it off the servers?
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>>634345603
...what? from the viewpoint of your post, nothing has been lost then. the game still delivered and this nebulous game-b is a pure hypothetical.
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>>634346082
>from the viewpoint of your post, nothing has been lost
Game B has been lost.
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>>634345943
If you payed for something and got something else, then fair play to you, you are experiencing buyer's remorse.
My point is a different one. You monkey.
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mgs5 basically killed my hype drive for videogames
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>>634346029
Listen, if you can prove to me that a development version of said game existed, I will concede the debate.
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>>634346029
NTAYT, but your argument is dumb, as unless the game is pre-alpha and hasn't been announced because of NDAs, you will know if a game exists or not because of copyright trademarks that need to be filed on titles.
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>>634346158
game b never existed though, form a market standpoint the hypothetical of game-b (your hope) and game-a (reality) are one and the same. a lost opportunity in the market is missing out on a sale, or a limited time release going out of print. you cant apply this to something that actually did release. its like claiming that a movie where the trailer deliberately mislead you to hide a twist a lost opportunity
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>>634346347
Can I prove it? Yes. Can I prove it to you? No, you think anything shown about a game before release isn't real.
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>>634346745
>no way to tell if this is real or not, or junk data left in the game during QA
You aren't proving anything to anyone.
As I said before, you can look for trademarks, they are open data affairs.
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>>634346745
>work in progress - does not represent the final look of the game
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>>634346745
A screenshot isn't proof of anything
--- 634347308
KSP2 sent me into a spiral of depression these last few weeks
the first one was never really finished or good
now the second one launches as an absolute trashfire with no content and weeks between the most basic fixes, after years of delays already
there are no other games like it
and there's a sycophantic cult sucking the dick of the games on reddit and the forums

I just want to build rockets with a decent progression to it
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>>634347058
>>634347083
>>634347275
and now you're back to saying a son in the womb isn't real. good work fags.
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>>634346079
by completely changing several core mechanics that move the game away from the systemic sandbox that was keeping the community engaged into another generic online rollercoaster where everyone gets to be a jedi
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>>634314047 (OP)
I bought Cyberpunk on sale, recommend me mods for it.
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>>634347407
>comparing a screenshot of UI to a doctor's exam of a pregnant woman
>both don't exist
many are saying this
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>>634347407
im literally saying the game changed scope
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I think Arma Reforger also really did something nasty to me, Arma 3 already dumbed down the game a lot to make it "more accessible", and it had some improvements also, and then Reforger comes with a new engine and everything and it's basically just a generic console shooter now.

Arma 2 wasn't perfect but it still was the most realistic shooter around, with an AI that was actually frighteningly good at times. Now they just stand around in the open and let themselves get killed.

Nobody wants to play 2 with me, nobody is making stuff for 2 anymore, and Arma 4 is going to be so dumbed down you can't even call it a sim anymore.
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>>634347767
And why are you saying this? To try and justify the current state of the game as inevitable, rather than false advertising. You are a dumbass shill.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Dying Light 2
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Very clearly Twilight Princess.

That thing ended up being such a boring and uninspired experience it was mindboggling. I was so disappointed with it, that I ended up not getting a Wii (played it on GCN), since it completely soured my interest in buying Nintendo games. The Gamecube was also the last Nintendo console I owned, besides a 3DS I got gifted by a friend.

Another big one would be Bioshock Infinite. The story ended up being quite stupid and the trailers promised a lot more gameplay wise.

>>634316323
I thought IV was great, but I agree that V ended being just kinda boring. It was technically incredibly impressive, but the story was just so nothing special. We've done it all before in every game since GTA 3.

>>634337916
>>634337448
>>634338572
>>634341001
Are you mentally handicapped?
Does your autistic ass know in what thread it is?
Read the OP, before shitting up a thread.
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I will never not be mad
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>>634314047 (OP)
Super Mario Bros
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>>634347962
>To try and justify the current state of the game as inevitable
they have spent years improving it as of now. shit, man, i also wanted an open ended sandbox cyberpunk sim but the simplest explanation is that they were developing this game, went "oh shit, its hard to make player agency important in our current style of story telling where we have a history of a main character with a defined history" and had to drastically, drastically change the scope of the game to make point A lead to point B. this is what all of the marketing materials from the reemergence of the game tell me. were they willing to rest on the laurels of those early impressions to drive up hype? sure i bet they fucking were. seems to me they have more than paid for it at this point by sticking to their guns and fixing the game rather than completely giving up and stonewalling the public
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>>634348264
isnt one tight linear game and the other one open world
not saying catalyst is better by any means, but that production values are vastly different. you could have 30 sets of eyes on a single hallway in mirrors edge and 10 eyes on 100 hallways in catalyst
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Gothic 3 
It also made me realize that game reviewers are full of shit
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>>634348264
it still hurts so much bro...
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>>634348250
I was arguing off topic you gorilla.
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I haven't had positive expectations of any game since MGSV
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>>634346079
SWG had like 24 professions, you grind XP to unlock through four segmented branches. Like Fencer would get mobility in one tree and accuracy in another, with action abilities sprinkled through the boxes. Becoming a Jedi was an arduous 6mo-1yr task of opening holocrons, leveling up a profession, then opening another. Some didn't give you anything and were duds. Later, during the Combat Upgrade (which was really a moderate downgrade, but not unplayable), it was changed to a still arduous several month process of doing dailies for night witch sisters or whatever they were called.
The focus was entirely on community created content in terms of PvP, building cities, attacking/defending, etc. And it worked, it really worked. Crafters could build manufacturing plants and factories and cultivators and all kinds of stuff, they didn't need to even touch combat outside of hiring someone to clear an area of creatures for them to claim with a building or something.
Then they released the New Game Experience. The NGE stripped those 24 classes down to 9, made them entirely linear and locked at character creation (you could unlearn and switch your stuff all around whenever you wanted before), made the combat exponentially less interesting, made the HUD unbearably ugly, and ruined pretty much every single area of gameplay. The only stuff to get through unscathed was the Jump to Lightspeed content. 
I was a part of the largest Empire clan/guild on Euro-Chimaera, KDS, and we went from over 100 people on at all times to a couple dozen after a week, to a couple dozen people after two, to three people left, me, the old mayor, and the weird droid engineer. Finally it was just me, and a ghost town. Then my account ran out, too. It was an unrecoverable blow.
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>>634348874
That is on the same level as "I was only PRETENDING to be retarded".
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>>634348264
well the original was linear levels with baked lighting vs an open city with dynamic lighting, baked is always going to look better

I thought catalyst was pretty damn good, until the story got needlessly melodramatic near the end so they could shill their covid vaccine predictive programming or whatever

>final boss is a cutscene
god damn it
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>>634348413
why would they have "paid" for it ever? they shilled a game that never existed
it's not even that those things they promised were some impossible pipe dream, like you said they just needed to switch their priority from linear story with defined protagonist to wrpg with a make-your-own-protagonist with a focus on immersing yourself into that world
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>>634349061
wasn't that game actually good though
it seems tards were just expecting another mgs4 boring ass 20 hour movie instead of a fun stealth sandbox
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>>634315393
People were expecting a game that's 
a futuristic Deus Ex+GTA VI+Dragon Age Origins when in reality it's pretty much just The Witcher 3 in a different setting.

Also, the game was buggier than a Bethesda game and downright unplayable on PS4/Xbox One. CDPR didn't allow reviewers to play the console versions
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>>634349345
A little bit but don't act like you've never argued off topic.
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>>634349862
>they shilled a game that never existed
they marketed a game they were making bro. they paid for sitting on those expectation by having a history PR nightmare at release, and by having people like yourself continue to shitpost about it nearing 3 years after release. despite this, they have polished, worked on and improved a game because theres obviously something there that theyre proud of. like i said, i want what you want, but it isnt worth dickriding the hypothetical idea of our dream game.

the biggest, ongoing red mark against CDPR in my opinion is them releasing a Xbone and PS4 version of this game, knowing full well that it was going to be an absolute shit show. that is their sin to bear
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>>634349961

MGS5 is weird. It has easily the best gameplay not only of the franchise but probably the entire "stealth" genre itself. The issue is that the story isn't complete and the further you get in the game the more you realize it. Plus, theres some bonus content in it lays out what the rest of the game would have been (the game shipped with 2 acts done and there was a final act which they didnt even begin work on outside of concept art) and the fact that they show it to you feels like a tease. I loved MGSV but its legit disappointing once you see what you could have gotten if they had more time to work on the game
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>>634314047 (OP)
I really like 1.
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>>634350390

Oh god this I was literally running red lights to get home to play RDR1 and I quit RDR2 after like 5 hours.
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>>634350282
>polished, worked on and improved
by which you mean bringing it up from an indefensible state that shouldn't even be legal to release a game in to just the bare minimum that you'd expect, still completely barren of any of the features they promised

you fucktarded zoomers are so god damn easy to impress you think just releasing a patch that shouldn't even be necessary in the first place is some kind of massive achievement of goodwill and dedication
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>>634314047 (OP)
Fallout 4
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>>634350531
>by which you mean bringing it up from an indefensible state that shouldn't even be legal to release a game
yes
>still completely barren of any of the features they promised
no, i got what i wanted when i played. namely, a lot of really good side quests and lotsa style
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>>634350390
>>634350453
what's even the difference between them? aren't all rockshit games the same, a completely barren empty but beautiful world for the time it was released, where all you do is you drive/ride from mission marker to mission marker while someone blabbers in your ear because there's nothing else going on and then you play some highly scripted cutscene pretending to be a mission until the game ends

it's all the same shit
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>>634350727
Speak for yourself, I love hunting in RDR2. That world is barely "empty"
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>>634350578
>He expected F4 not to be complete trash
I pity the fool.
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>>634328860
>faggot messing around with classic UI
>also removes classic music
>vfag confused
Lol
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>>634318882
Still bitter retards bought into the hype despite cdpr’s legacy and complain on any discussion they can. The game is fine, it’s just OK. If you’ve got a strong negative opinion it’s a character flaw and a sign you should go outside. Literally saw a trailer, thought to myself, yeah cdpr will never pull that off and I was correct. it’s shameful how much hate people toss around because it basically tells me they are suckers that bought into the hype isntwd of expecting mid-tier gameplay. 
>if only
gtfo. This is the same mindset that’s putting time into wishboards. Sad Shit
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>>634350531
Watch the state Starfield gets released in and see if Bethesda fans will defend it.
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>>634351021
I expected better graphics not the same garbage patchwork engine. I wasn’t expecting a good game given the players involved. The engine is utter trash and so is any game that uses it
--- 634351313
total warhammer

it's video games for people who work from home. boring as shit.
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>>634351223
apart from 76 bethshit has never released in an unplayable state, just a janky one, with a fun foundation, the two are not comparable at all
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>>634351305
Really? You cared about graphics in betshit game? 
You are beyond redemption.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Tree of fucking Savior

holy fuck man...
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>>634351472
>apart from 76 bethshit has never released in an unplayable state, just a janky one, with a fun foundation, the two are not comparable at all
When they released Skyrim on PS3, it had such a notorious memory leak issue that save files would balloon to extreme sizes and drop the game to single digit FPS, and take minutes to load or save.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Dragon Age 2, the point of no return for Bioware
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>>634314047 (OP)
i hope that mods will at least save cyberpunk in like 10 years
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>>634352235
no mod will even be able to make the police able to drive cars and not spawn directly behind you
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>>634352409
?? they already modded that retard
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>>634352409
It's honestly comedic being somewhere in the desert, somehow triggering a wanted level, and having cops spawn in just straight out of the desert haze.
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>>634352208
Being incorporated into EA was the point of no return for Bioware.
I could not finish that trash as well.
--- 634353642
Something was off from the moment it was revealed - Resident Evil in broad daylight? Not feeling it. Finally got around to it properly before 7 released and did I feel vindicated, though not for the reasons I expected. Shit's almost a run-n'-gun for how little it has to do with feeling like a Resident Evil game.
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Wait, when did VTMB 2 come out
--- 634353762
I just wanted freelancer 2 chris, we didn't need your autistic "do anything" mmo with pay to win gacha mechanics

crytek's hornet was my ship-fu
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>>634314047 (OP)
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>>634353832
what was even so bad about this
it looked like basically dishonored
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>>634348264
I really liked Catalyst. I get that a lot of people didn't but I had an unexpected amount of fun with it.
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>>634353737
Yesterday in alternative timeline.
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>>634353832
Oh yea, that shit exists. I've nearly forgotten.
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>>634353890
>It looked like basically Dishonored 
There’s the problem
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>>634351616
boredom does some strange shit to you. I came to my senses about 20 minutes in and fucked off to play something that ended up being a great experience.
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>>634353928
my main problem is the open world had a lot of dead ends that killed my momentum, and they didn't bring back the pursuit cops to actually chase you through it
--- 634354494
fallout 4 is actually good in a lot of ways
once you get away from the shitty story and just explore the wasteland it's like playing a totally different game

the gameplay loop of explore -> fight -> loot is really tight and well made

but it's bogged down by so much dumb shit
if the main quest had been better it would have been a great game
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>>634314047 (OP)
MGSV. repetitive missions, shit story, no bosses and no soul. or maybe i was just too overhyped.
cyberpunk 2077 wasn't a disappointment because i followed the news and it was obvious much before release that it was a dumpsterfire
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>>634350282
>they marketed a game they were making bro.
Nah anon. They full on lied about features that they said would be present in the final product and weren’t. 
>inb4 but in my opinion it doesn’t add or detract from the game 
Doesn’t matter they said they’d deliver one thing and didn’t.
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>>634315393
Cops spawn behind you
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>>634315393
>most buggy game release in a decade
>doesn't have a quarter of what the developer showed off or talked about
>market it as an immersive ground breaking rpg
>It's as much as an rpg as far cry is
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>>634314047 (OP)
Anyone that gets upset at Bloodlines 2 being cancelled has either never seen the gameplay footage or is a hopeless consoomer. It had every single red flag a AAA "rpg" can show.
>sound design is trash and has no real ambient noise (coping retards say this will be fixed on release. It never is)
>stuttering and dipping in fps even on the showcase (coping retards say this is just because it isn't finished and it'll be fixed on release. It's somehow always worse on release)
>No handcrafted facial animations (the shit that made the OG game so praised) and everyone just randomly turns tilts their head or changes their facial expression like an Oblivion bartering wheel. Coping retards don't even pretend that this will be fixed and instead say it's just nitpicking.
>Player dialogue is such canned trash that it sounds like something chatgpt shit out
>Can't say no, just have two "yes" and a "maybe"
>All voice acting sounds like they hired an amateur pornstar that was told to sound like they just woke up
>Game gives zero fucks about lore or the setting and will let you casually show off that you're a superhuman in front of civvies by doing shit like walking off jumping from a two story building. Motherfucker, that's a masquerade violation
>Combat is gutter trash
>Animations are all trash
If that was the most impressive shit they could scrounge up to show the game off then I can't imagine how awful the rest of it must've been.
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>>634355410
Bloodlines 2 getting cancelled is the best outcome.
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>>634342787
Just because you got lucky doesn't mean anything. On week one I got hardlocked because I recieved 3 different video calls at the same time.
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>>634355410

Suck my dick faggot. The first game had shit gameplay too. But who gives a crud about any of that. The soundtrack is now forever in limbo. From what was played in the demos shown. Sound amazing.
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>>634354624
>They full on lied about features that they said would be present in the final product and weren’t
i disagree
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>>634356707
Are you retarded?
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>>634356707
nobody cares
unlike what your teachers coddled you with in school, you have to actually back up your opinions
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>>634356707
>Wanted System and Corrupt Police. Bounty hunters who hunt the player down.
https://gamerant.com/cyberpunk-2077-wanted-system-corrupt-police/

>NPC's will have over 1,000 daily routines
https://www.vg247.com/2020/06/08/cyberpunk-2077-npcs-1000-daily-routines/

>Lifepaths will lead to a non-linear quest design
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/09/12/cyberpunk-2077-lifepath-system/

>More weapon customisation than what is currently present.
https://nightcitylife.de/index.php/features-artikel/341-xxl-preview-cyberpunk-2077-angespielt?start=5

>Nanowire and Gorilla arms having features that are present in their descriptions but not in the game.
https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1153684171606450178?s=09 

>Quest decisions have relevance in the world.
https://onlysp.escapistmagazine.com/cyberpunk-2077-changes/

>Greater range of hacking such as using the wire to hack people.
https://youtu.be/FknHjl7eQ6o [Embed]

>Trauma Team plays a key role, flying ads that target the player
https://youtu.be/SVAryZ0GLwE [Embed]


“While fans may have seen a lot of shooting and guns, they shouldn't expect this game to be just a simple shooter. It's an RPG first and a shooter second” -Miles Tost Senior Level Designer (August 16th 2020).
https://gamerant.com/cyberpunk-2077-dev-confirms-rpg-focus/amp/

>Ready when it's ready
It fucking wasn't.

>Game will be as polished and refined as Red Dead Redemption 2
https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2018/11/q3-2018-cd-projekt-group-teleconference-transcript-1.
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>>634314047 (OP)
There's many but the most recent is probably Ape Escape 2 after finishing the first one. It's not even a bad game its just such a disappointment that I couldn't even play it all the way through I think I stopped right after the casino level
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>>634356391
>The first game had shit gameplay too. Hence why a sequel should improve on it you fucking mongloid
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>>634356245
>>634342787
I only had one major bug but lost about 3 hours of progress because of it. The game randomly decided after a loading screen to remove my ability to use any weapons, and somehow this bug managed to affect all of my saves until 3 hours beforehand.
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>>634318404
I thought the gameplay was extremely fun but everything around it was just so bland. The blatant slap in the face that was the Sony deal just solidified my hate for the series and I will never purchase another game from Bungie because of it.
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>>634314047 (OP)
Final Fantasy VII "Remake" Part 1 of X
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Probably dragon age 2. Up to that point pretty much every game Bioware ever made was good.
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is CP2077 good/worth $30 for someone who likes open world games/cyberpunk/deus ex and would have 0 hype going into it?
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>>634360943
I paid $30 and in the end, no. I think $15 is a much more fair price, $20 is the absolute upper bound of what I'd pay for it. but I'm not sure it ever goes on sale below 30
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>>634360943
I torrented it and couldn't be assed to finish the game, it is truely a dreaful experience. I had no knowledge of what was planned about it going in and no hype either.
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>>634353642

I felt the same way. Playing it on co-op is peak performance though, I dont understand how it sucked so much ass SP but was so great when playing co-op
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Deus Ex Invisible War
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Hellgate London
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>>634342787
>anecdotal (but it works for me) "evidence"
Peak retardation indicator
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>>634363341
Agreed, the limitation of consoles at the time genuinely killed this game. Small areas, loadings everywhere, universal ammo etc...
I played it years ago though on a modern PC and since the loadings are instant, it makes the game enjoyable if you crave more Deus Ex. The overall vibe of the game is really unique.
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>>634315393
It honestly wasn't that bad, but that's coming from someone who saw the launch trailer, thought "neat," and then played it ten years later without spending a lot of time reading about it on the internet. Somehow it had evolved into an autistic craving for a life simulator where you could have complex sexual relationships with every NPC, it would have 500x the depth of Skyrim in terms of NPC interaction and sidequests, and you could fully simulate a life in Night City. Not sure if that came from actual promises, but it's no different from how Peter Molyneux promised that the original Syndicate would have a fully living city or that Fable would be some incredible thing. Still great games, but people bought into the hype too much.

Personally, I wish Cyberpunk had stuck with the darker green-and-black look from the original teaser with the Archive song, instead of the very yellow Cholo desert style that it turned into. Maybe the current iteration is less generic though. Either way, still a good game if you make your own opinion and don't copypaste it from what Redditors want you to think.
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>>634363556
oh god 
definitely
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>>634314047 (OP)
I've come around on it, but at the time it was Dark Souls 2. That was probably the last time I allowed myself to become genuinely excited at a game release.
Until they announced Dragon's Dogma 2 please don't let me down Itsuno
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>>634314047 (OP)
No idea how anyone could be disappointed by CP2077. It's literally on par with Witcher 3, but with combat that's actually kinda fun.