diff --git a/out/2520224.txt b/out/2520224.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a5997ebe1b05701db2f11352caf536429cb9f366 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2520224.txt @@ -0,0 +1,803 @@ +----- +--- 2520224 +Growing up in the seedier parts New York the closest I got to playing in the woods was playing in the park rather than a seemingly fathomless heavily wooded area, and now that I've grown up I don't have any desire to do so. + +So to anyone who enjoyed exploring the woods as a kid, why? And also what was the best thing or THINGS you did there? +--- 2520228 +>>2520224 (OP) +>seedier parts OF New York, my bad XP +--- 2520231 +Blueberry, raspberry, and blackberry picking; fishing; the variety of birds; usually only whites IF any other people. +--- 2520232 +>>2520231 +There were berry patches in your area that weren't connected to like a farm or something? Hopefully nothing POISONOUS, I assume... +--- 2520244 +>>2520232 +Do you think berries didn't exist until farmers magically shat seeds out their assholes? I hope you die in New York, you stupid faggot holy shit cityniggers shouldn't be allowed to post here. +--- 2520250 +>bump +--- 2520332 +>bumpx2 +--- 2520359 +>>2520224 (OP) +at what age would it be safe to turn your kid loose to go play in the woods? + +>western OR +>own 8 acres of woods +>adjacent to several hundred more acres of BLM forest +>frequent bear sightings and the occasional sign of cougar near by + +8 year old and I do a lot of hiking/exploring together, but as far as turning him loose to go solo, i just don't know. we have walkies so if he got into trouble he'd let us know, but things can happen pretty fast out there. +--- 2520361 +>>2520359 +Well if you were a kid, let's be frank, exploring the woods would involve being in the general vicinity of an adult or in a forest behind your home, realistically. + +>BLM forest + +What's that? +--- 2520369 +>>2520361 +public land -- open forest. +well, what i'm saying is he could go from our backdoor and hike in several directions for an hour and still be in the forest. definitely out of earshot and possibly too far away if anything went wrong (injury, animal for example) +--- 2520370 +>>2520224 (OP) +Mostly harassing the local wildlife. I would bike to the woods and either go fishing, catch frogs and turtles or chase turkeys +--- 2520380 +>>2520224 (OP) +I grew up in a village in germany. Germany is a pretty urban country, and as a result most forests are pretty "tamed". But it was plenty in the eyes of us kids. +Our main motivations were that it was essentially a big playground without supervision. No parents, no strangers, just us. It was possible to play in many ways (play with softair rifles, or dig trenches, or build treehouses, or shelters) that you simply didn't have the space for at home. The biggest draw was the feeling of adventure. We'd climb under the electric fence where sheep were held and pet them (sometimes they'd let us sometimes they'd attack us), then again under it back into the forest, we'd sometimes "steal" honey from some beeskeeper (he knew, but he also knew we wouldn't take much, so he let it happen), we'd search for treasure, go in places that were forbidden (a old mine and a forest bunker were favorites) and sometimes we'd go looking for animals. Always hoping to see deer or a hog, but usually having to settle for some frogs or squirrels instead. +>And also what was the best thing or THINGS you did there? +I have the fondest memories of building shelters. We had "bases" in the forest and inside those we stashed our treasure - stuff we had found. The coolest among those were WW2 leftovers, we had found a ammo box, something that may have been artillery or a mortar round, thankfully not live, and a lot of animal bones. Other than that, fighting with sticks, exploring the mine and the occasional hog encounter. +>>2520359 +>at what age would it be safe to turn your kid loose to go play in the woods? +Once they can be trusted to know their boundaries and the risk of the forest around them. It really depends on the forest though. I'd say we were "fake alone" by something like 6 (as in thinking we were alone when parents actually watched/were nearby in emergencies) and really alone around 8. +--- 2520392 +>>2520370 +>>2520380 +This is all very interesting. Thanks anons. +--- 2520410 +>>2520380 +Yeah, I can see what you mean. if it weren't for bear or cougar i'd be fine with him alone right now at age 8. (some risk of mechanical injury from slipping/falling, but having a walkie would minimize the risk of serious harm). +Cougars out here will almost always leave a full grown man alone, but a kid is another story. Bear are less of a risk, but still something to worry about (particularly in spring or summer) + +As a kid we had no yard or privacy at all (though i could hop the fence and explore the muni golf course -- which is better than nothing i guess). Growing up with books like Hatchet or Where the Red Fern Grows -- the idea of being a kid and getting to explore and play outside appealed to me. When we bought the land and built the house i looked forward to turning him loose to explore the forest with the dogs (something every boy should get to do imo), but man i'm getting over protective and risk averse as i get older. +--- 2520428 +>>2520224 (OP) +you felt like adults couldn't find you out there. especially if you lived somewhere with really dense vegetation. you could clear out a spot in the woods and build a fort. you could find a tree that was really good for climbing. the goal was always to eventually build a badass treehouse, but you never really did because you didn't have the tools or materials. the cleared out hole in the thick woods behind the neighborhood was the "secret spot" where you could smoke cigarette butts you found, shoot the bb gun you have stashed out there, or run to whenever the police were after you for throwing acorns at passing dump trucks. +--- 2520432 +>>2520428 +Cool :) +--- 2520439 +>>2520224 (OP) +I used to watch this show as a kid and wish I lived in the lush east instead of the desert. +Now I've been there. And I prefer the desert +--- 2520441 +>>2520439 +This show was great, wasn't it? +What about the country do you not like? +--- 2520442 +>>2520441 +Nothing wrong with it. I've just been there and I liked it. But as I've matured I've come to appreciate the desert. +That show is also why I think I have long conversations with animals that lead people to think I'm touched in the head. +--- 2520443 +>>2520442 +Ah, I see. +Well, what about the country originally made you want to live there, even if reality didn't meet expectations? +--- 2520462 +>>2520410 +>Cougars out here will almost always leave a full grown man alone, but a kid is another story. Bear are less of a risk, but still something to worry about (particularly in spring or summer) +Honestly, either of those are valid reasons not to let them go into the woods unsupervised. We were encouraged not to go too deep into the forest if the hogs had kids, because the mothers could get much more agressive. No cougars or bears where I lived, so worst case would be a fox with rabies or something. +And don't feel too ashamed of being scared for your kids, it's natural. You seem to do your best to strike a balance by giving them freedom while also offering security with the walkie talkie and stuff. They already have it better than 95% of kids. That fake freedom where you can explore boundaries but know if you fuck up mom and dad can fix it is one of the most magical aspects of childhood. +And in retrospect, us going into the mine and some of the shit we did like playing with the rusted WW2 artillery shell was really unneccesarily risky, wouldn't want my kids to do the same, even if I have fond memories from it kek. +--- 2520477 +>>2520462 +that's the thing though, those close calls we have as kids are actually extremely formative; the tendency towards safety mommyism might actually do more harm than good. i guess it's finding the right balance and praying nothing too catastrophic happens. + +where i grew up, we'd often play in the river (hunting snakes/crawdads in the summer). There was a bridge just outside of town with a small dam and sluice box; if the water was high enough we'd jump into the river from the bridge (maybe a 30' fall). Well one summer some kids were jumping off it, but the sluice box was left open. Two kids got sucked in, one drowned and the other became a vegetable for the rest of his life (wound up drowning on his own saliva at the hospital a few years later ironically enough). I think back on how lucky I was to not have that happen. As a parent I wouldn't let my kid jump off that bridge, all the while knowing that my childhood summers would have been worse for such concerns =/ +--- 2520485 +>>2520477 +>the tendency towards safety mommyism might actually do more harm than good +I 100% agree with you. Some freedom, and that includes the freedom to fuck up, is needed for kids to become adults. But some risk is also unneeded. Getting hurt playing in the woods and either fixing it with friends together or going back home injured is formative, hitting the rusted WW2 artillery shell with a stone to see what's inside may have ended badly. +I still remember the very first time I went somewhere alone: +I was very young and my parents allowed me to get bread from the bakery alone on a sunday. It involved walking down 3 streets, crossing a small intersection, going into the store, ordering, paying and going back. I couldn't do math yet, so I had no idea how much I had paid or gotten back, but I remember how proud I was when I got back home. Years later I found out I never was alone - my father had followed me with a camera to see if I would cross the intersection carefully, avoid any traffic and be alright on my own. Once he knew I was fine, he knew I could be trusted to leave the house alone from there on. +I think the way they did it was best: First a pilot run, where they kept me safe but I could feel like I was alone. Then once that went well, they let me do my thing. That way they could trust I was fine on my own and I could be free of parental control. +Your main goal is avoiding the shit that can result in death or severe injury, for the rest, it's better if they find out themselves. +We had plenty a injury from homemade fireworks, fighting with sticks, etc. Kids learn surprisingly quickly to take care of each other. +Either way, don't stress about it too much anon, you sound like a great parent. Listen to your inner fears, then rationalize how probable they are. If they are unlikely, allow your kids freedom. If it's reasonable, air on the side of caution. You got this. +--- 2520492 +>>2520477 +>>2520485 +I forgot to mention that the disposition/nature of the child matters too. I was always a very cautious kid. I'd do everything with the others, often taking a leading role, but I'd always try to mitigate risk, take care of everyone and worry about injuries/dangers. That part of my nature as a kid probably helped them to allow me my freedom. +Every kid is different after all. +--- 2520523 +>>2520224 (OP) +I need to be more thankful I got to grow up in a small town. Riding bikes and running around the woods with neighbor kids. Absolutely Norman Rockwell compared to the abuse your rearing was. Maybe you can find some spark of wonder as an adult. At least know better if you have kids of your own +--- 2520526 +>>2520523 +Naturally. +>Absolutely Norman Rockwell +How so? +--- 2520547 +>>2520224 (OP) +grandparents in ohio had 40 acres with a creek going through it, whenever we visited growing up my brother and i would wade through and explore the creek for what seemed like miles +--- 2520560 +>>2520547 +What did you do there? +--- 2520563 +>>2520359 +I got set free on the unsuspecting UP forest at age 7. Never had any issues with wolves, lions, bear or coyotes, but thinking back my parents probably should have been supervising. +As for OPs question I did a lot of "fort" building with my friends and siblings. we were all I faulted with the Indian wars and would build Indian and settler forts then play war and try and take eachothers forts. As we got older these structures got more and more sturdy and sofisticated. As >>2520369 said harassing wildlife and catching small animals was a staple. +Our biggest operation was building a dam across a stream. It took an entire summer, bevers moved in and remade it for us so it still stands to this very day. +--- 2520583 +>>2520443 +Just the idea of greenery and fresh water everywhere. I also really liked song of the south growing up and figured everything would look like that. +--- 2520585 +>>2520583 +>Song of the South +Gotta check that out as well. Thanks. +>idea of Greenery and Fresh Water everywhere +That is amazing, I gotta say. +--- 2520639 +>>2520560 +wading up and down the creek, skipping rocks, swimming, exploring +--- 2520732 +Used to love that show. +I lived on a big property surrounded by woods, the closest road being dirt and gravel and the nearest neighbors a ways away. Didn't have internet or cable tv so when I wasn't reading books I went outside. Always wore either flip flops or rubber boots. Mostly I played in mud puddles, catching frogs, turtles, lizards, etc. Loved to make forts. I knew our property and the surrounding woods like the back of my hand. Surprisingly I've never been in actual danger, the worst that I can recall is a big strange dog growling at me but that happened right in the yard, and two trespassers coming onto the property to steal scrap metal. I had to run through tall grass back home to tell my parents. I saw snakes and black widows often but had enough sense to avoid them. Stupid thing I did was walk onto a froze over pond despite not being able to swim, also wading into a creek that got pretty rough. Hope this is what you wanted to hear OP. +--- 2520769 +>>2520359 +Me and my friends were running wild in the woods by age 9 but then again we don't have bears or cougars here in Aus. +When was the last time someone was actually attacked by a bear in your area? +--- 2521018 +>bump +--- 2521068 +>bumpx2 +--- 2521114 +>>2521018 +>>2521068 +/out/ is a slow board, you don't need to bump shit. +--- 2521782 +>>2521114 +Bumping anyway +>bump +--- 2521793 +I groed up in a small New England farmtown. My parents own several acres of woods but the entire forest is maybe 2000 acres (and that's just 2000 acres contained by the road, the woods continue semi-forever). + +I spent every day in the woods as a kid, all day. Just about never once saw another human being anywhere in the forest or on the hills. I know those woods like the back of my hand - you could show me a cropped photo of a rock or a stump or even a puddle and I would tell you where it is. It was amazing. + +>tree climbing +>foraging wild apples and berries +>building forts and treehouses +>camping out (as I got older, as we have significant problems with burr and coyotes) +>"woods training" (basically our kid version of forest parkour) +>following the old stone walls through the woods looking for old artifacts +>over the years found an old two-man saw blade, some hand-forged horseshoes, a whiskey bottle from 1870, an axe head, an iron jaw trap + +parents still own the property but things are changing, parts of the woods have changed hands and development is encroaching :[ +--- 2521974 +>>2520224 (OP) +>So to anyone who enjoyed exploring the woods as a kid, why? +Mostly fishing and mushroom picking, why? What else were you gonna do? I grew up In pretty rural Sweden, nothing to fix on the car, dog is croomed and fed, homework done. Now what? +No Internet +No phone +Ofcourse you are just gonna "go for a walk" and fuck around, was before I discovered girls, alcohol and tobacco though +--- 2521978 +>>2521974 +plus the chance of finding porno mags +what happened to that? why was it ever a thing, and why did so many of us find porno mags in the woods? +--- 2521987 +>>2520359 +When he's old enough to safely and competently operate a rifle. Even then, I'd want to be in the general vicinity in case something happens. +--- 2521988 +>>2520361 +Bureau of Land Management, it's a federal agency that overseas a lot of cultural and natural resource management. +--- 2522055 +>>2520361 +Black Lives Matter forest, in America huge patches of woodland are given to negroes as reparations for the martyrdom of Saint Floyd. +--- 2522057 +>>2521978 +Other kids dumping them there after being caught. + +I had a "lad's mag" as a teen, basically just topless women, and my dad sent me away to get rid of it. Where do you think I went? Yep, you guessed it. +--- 2522060 +>>2520477 +You now understand why people in the past had 10 kids. They played outside and so were prone to dying. You can't emotionally afford to have a child die if you only have 1 or 2. +--- 2522062 +Man this thread is making me envious, my parents wouldn't even leave me alone when playing in our backyard or town park. No wonder I grew up retarded and had to fix my life from scratch. +--- 2522135 +>>2520477 +I grew up in rural Mississippi and me and my friends used to swim in the swamp to catch crabs for my uncle to cook, until we got a stubborn gator that wouldn't leave and ate one of our cats, then my parents never let me do it again. So sad. +--- 2522154 +i grew up by a park in dc, mostly paved trails with some well maintained dirt ones. there was a creek and for some reason my friends and i thought the other side was an island so we called it "kid island" and never bothered to find the other side of the island. there was a big fallen tree we would cross to get there. probably the best thing that happened was finding an old ammo can in the brush with army men, a pocket knife and a mini flashlight, which thinking back on it now was most likely a geocache. +--- 2522471 +>bump +--- 2522524 +>>2521978 +>why did so many of us find porno mags in the woods? +Pederasts. Unironically. They deliberately provide porn to young men in order to make them more sexually vulnerable. +https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd0wCZsNqTM [Embed] +>lol. You thing gays are just leaving porno mags out for kids? +Yes. Do you think they just sprout there? +>but the skin mags are always straight! +It's called grooming. They don't start out with the all male anal fisting +--- 2522525 +>>2520224 (OP) +>And also what was the best thing or THINGS you did there? +We explored the entire woods and golf course near our houses. We named every section of it and most of the notable trees. Made elaborate maps. Built all sorts of huts and shelters. We tobogganed on every hill and valley in the golf course, and some places you could continue on down through the woods. We made swords out of broken hockey sticks (back when hockey sticks were made of wood), fought with those and hurt each other. We made bows, crossbows and spears from saplings. + +As a teen, I'd just wander alone or fun. I tested some leaves and saps to see if smoking them would get me high. I would also fap a lot. +--- 2522526 +>>2522524 +>Unironically. +You are so fucking stupid it hurts. +--- 2522527 +>>2522526 +Not an argument +--- 2522529 +>>2520224 (OP) +I grew up in a Southern California town that was citrus groves surrounded by mountains. My dad was from the rural part of Pennsylvania and he encouraged me to go get lost as a kid quite often because that’s how he grew up. I remember hiking out with my friends and doing overnight trips out of a backpack when I was elementary school aged. My friends and I all got mini bikes around the same time which allowed us to explore further and further out of our backyards when we were in middle school. By the time we were in high school we all had full sized dirtbikes and half decent camping gear. Ride out as far as we could and set up a site, have a little fire, share a joint and sip liquor we stole from our parents. +--- 2522557 +>>2522527 +Anon's post is pure fiction. The response is literary criticism. +--- 2522567 +>>2520477 +There's a damn in my village to control the water level of the lake. Some kids I knew would go through the sluice on purpose for shits and grins. I'm guessing your damn was either higher or the sluice was more violent. +--- 2522572 +>>2520485 +>It involved walking down 3 streets, crossing a small intersection +My walk to kindergarten was 3 blocks along the busiest street in my city. I'd do it with a friend. My friend was a latch key kid. His single mom was still at work when he came home from work so it would just be him and a brother who was maybe 2-3 years older. So a kindergartner and a 3rd grader alone at home after school every day. + +You did that today, his mother would be arrested and lose custody. +--- 2522583 +>>2522055 +That acronym swap is never not funny +--- 2522617 +>>2522557 +Idk. Doesn't seem too fictional +--- 2523258 +>bump +--- 2523261 +I got a spooky feeling whenever I went out into the forest as a kid and I really liked it. Going out there made me feel cool and brave like a frontiersman or something. +--- 2523268 +>>2523261 +How so? +--- 2523404 +>bump +--- 2523407 +>>2522617 +Can confirm. Pedophiles are said to do this +--- 2523616 +>bump +--- 2523973 +>>2523268 +There is just an ominous feeling in North American wilderness when you're out there alone, especially at night. Also I was really into Bigfoot and shit at the time too so that helped with the spoopy vibe. +--- 2525303 +>bump +--- 2525579 +>>2523407 +The child muhlestor in my town did this :[8ntd4s +--- 2525663 +>>2520224 (OP) +>why? +Being in the woods is its own reward. +In the woods we could be Indians, hobbits, cavemen, explorers, whatever. Doing that in town we'd get pestered by the townies. +Parents insisted we go outside. Outside was the woods and fields. +--- 2525664 +>>2523407 +>are said to do this +Please read and understand what you wrote. +--- 2525666 +>>2522617 +>I'll post more antiporn propaganda. Maybe that will help. +--- 2525672 +>>2520244 +All the berry patches I remember around were I lived were on farm land that had been abandoned. + +>>2521978 +>why was it ever a thing +The best explanation I can think of is that porn is a disposable thing. Boomers would buy a mag, go somewhere secluded to leaf through it and have a wank, then ditch the mag before they went home. Maybe they had a stash they'd look at from time to time then lose in interest. Their wife or mother wouldn't let them keep the stash in the home. You'd need to be somewhere secluded to wank anyway. + +I also strongly suspect that stumbling on a cache would be a once or twice in a lifetime thing. But to the 8 years olds it was the most amazing and memorable moment of their life and takes on a disproportionate importance. No one is going to talk about the rusted cans or barbed wire fence. Everyone is going to talk about that one titty mag they found. +--- 2526117 +>bump +--- 2527399 +>bumpx2 +--- 2527687 +We mainly built sheds, dams, carved messages and explored. A bit like playing slow low level minecraft. Also since animals and plants change along the months or with weather events there are always new things to find even in the well known places. + +>>2520380 +>it was essentially a big playground without supervision. No parents, no strangers, just us. +This. +--- 2527809 +>>2521793 +>foraging wild apples +How were you eating them? +Wild apple sucks. +--- 2527815 +>>2520224 (OP) +started camping by myself at eleven or twelve years old. when I was fifteen I camped two and a half months by myself until I ran out of food and ended up getting caught +>>2520361 +>realistically +normally is the word you're looking for +--- 2527864 +>>2527809 +well, it's a combination of whilde apples (crab apples) and feral apples that are leftover from the farm which burned and ceased to exist in 1790. + +there are little yellow crabbies which are juicy and sweet like pears; medium green apples which are fairly juicy and tart, large red apples which are hard and super starchy/inedible, and large red apples which are quite nice if you let them ripen till the end of season. + +I would harvest a mixture of the edible ones and make apple pies +--- 2527881 +>>2520224 (OP) +It would be like trying to explain the world to someone who had lived in a room their entire life + +You just wouldn’t get it…. +--- 2527885 +>>2527881 +like the shadows on the cave wall +--- 2527951 +>bump +--- 2527957 +>>2520224 (OP) +Building shelters, playing hide and seek, hunting each other or animals, exploring, then during puberty we just made bigger camps, campfires and drank a lot, in -25C we build our own giant heated tents just for one night or even just sat by the fire the entire night with snow falling up to our waistes. +--- 2527962 +>>2527957 +I fucking love going feral in the snow. Yeah getting drink in the deep freeze has its risks but for one night you can survive with all fingers and have the time of your life. Sadly my friends were largely opposed to campouts in deep winter even though we would often go for long drunken walks till 3am instead... which is probably more dangerous on account of no fire or shelter. + +One night it was so br00tal out that our beers kept freezing solid in our hands while we were drinking them. Shit was FACKED. + +Pickerel. This is why I bought a Pentax camera; fully armed and operational even at desperately subzero temps +--- 2528400 +I used to love climbing into unorganized logpiles. +I live in the rocky mountains, and around my property there were large piles of logs, not like the cut up kind, like full sized. It was arguably really dangerous, like I could have gotten crushed, but since I was small enough I could weave inbetween the logs, with large enough piles it was almost like spelunking, it was a bit fucked up One pile had like an open space inbetween the logs (like big enough to sit in) and I pretended it was a tank +--- 2528411 +>bump +--- 2528427 +>>2527962 +Bro I live in the Yukon and I still use my pixel to take photos outside at -40, you may be overcomplicating things. +--- 2529322 +>bump +--- 2529975 +>bump +--- 2530332 +>>2528411 +>>2529322 +>>2529975 +Only tourists from lebbit do this. +--- 2530400 +>>2530332 +If it works there, it'll work here, anon. +--- 2530417 +>>2520232 +Urbanite moment. + +Fucks sake man I grew up a flatlander with only one patch of public woods around and there were still berries in that wood. Can urbanites even touch grass? +--- 2530419 +>>2530417 +Not if you've been in my (pun not intended) neck of the woods. +--- 2530420 +>>2520224 (OP) +Which part? Ulster county reporting in +--- 2530422 +>>2528427 +I used my Canon POS P&S in the deep freeze but once I switched to DSLR it was nice to know I had a piece of kit that, although more mechanically complex and with far superior optics, was still up for the task +--- 2530471 +>>2525666 +You shouldn't need propaganda to accept that porn is bad for individuals and society at large. This is uncle Ted's board FFS +--- 2530959 +>bump +--- 2531568 +>bump +--- 2531853 +>>2520224 (OP) +Grew up in a small southern town that was mostly suburb, but had a few patches of woods that me & my friends could easily bike to. We'd mostly just follow the boatload of creeks that were around there, if it had a divit deep enough to swim in you can bet that we swam in it though. Outside of almost stepping on a coiled-up snake we never had any dangerous experiences/fun finds in the woods; we were never more than a mile from a house/business, so it's not like we were ever in too much danger honestly. +Probably not too different from your experiences i'd bet, just took place somewhere with a below 6-digit population haha. +--- 2531871 +oh yeah almost everyone was white +--- 2532496 +>bump +--- 2532520 +>>2520224 (OP) +I grew up by a forest. I think I walked every path every day every summer from when I was old enough to walk until I had a job in high school. + +It was nice. The quiet lets you collect your thoughts, feels good to breathe the air, it was calm with the exception of the occasional other kid or family hiking through. +>the park was preserved by the city, so it didn't shrink, but there's a highway on the north side, high-density housing on the east, and ever increasing intensification on the remaining sides, so it's no longer quiet +It was fun to tell jokes, or stories, or just look for critters. There used to be a lot of raccoons and bats there, but now there's not a lot. Sometimes we'd build little teepees or shelters. But the park staff would yell at us if we got caught, although I suppose there was no real repercussions. +>I walked my parents' dog through the forest a few months ago +>some kids had built a lean-to and were shooting some kind of drug +>I phoned the park building, they seemed annoyed I had bothered + +The forest has a lot of hills. If you're not paying attention you can just step off and fall down a 45+ degree incline until a tree stopped you. Well over a decade ago, I remember some friends and I were screwing around, probably just telling jokes and being useless like usual, when one of us tripped and fell down the biggest hill the in the forest. He was just covered in bruises the next day, probably hit every single root and stone on his way down. + +Nothing really happened there that was "the best," but I remember loving my walks with my dad. No real events, just wasting time with dad and trying to catch fireflies in the park on the far side of the forest where it opened into a field. Maybe the druggies and dirtbags were always there, but I only remember him explaining things like the pine trees leaking pitch because of the beetles, daring me to climb the trees that mum never would let me, lying to me about how fast a runner I was, etc. +--- 2532980 +>bump +this thread is amazing +--- 2533904 +>>2527962 +what would I give to hang out with you anon +--- 2533908 +I feel so envious oh man. Grew up in an apartment building in a dense city in Asia. Still live in one and will probably for the rest of life. It's not as bad as those mega apartment buildings in Hong Kong but very similar. I will never stop lamenting that I wasn't born in North America +--- 2534374 +>>2528400 +Dumb nigga +--- 2534379 +swimming in the body of the universe +--- 2534402 +>>2520224 (OP) +Yeah, I grew up in the suburbs and there was always green space around but in particular this one creek that ran through that part of the city was completely undeveloped and wooded and basically I would get lost there all day long and come home covered in mud and brambles. + +Good times. +--- 2535065 +>bump +--- 2535069 +I would usually walk along the creek and jump between the rocks from side to side. We'd have stick races downstream, one time a friend and I sent 'floaters' down instead. Those were simpler times. +--- 2535075 +>>2520224 (OP) +>So to anyone who enjoyed exploring the woods as a kid, why? And also what was the best thing or THINGS you did there? +When I was a kid the forest was this amazing, alluring and the same time scary, so just running around exploring made me feel like I was an adventurer +The only thing we really did was built "forts" out of sticks and leaves, and collect random trash we found like it was some sort of treasure +--- 2535095 +>>2521978 +lmao +in my case because the our property had a good bit of frontage on a highway and i assume truckers would toss them out the window or something, because I'd always find them up near the road. +--- 2535293 +>>2535075 +>made me feel like I was an adventurer +What were some of the best adventures you had? +--- 2535309 +>>2535293 +Shit, my memories from that time are more of a photo collage of random things than a linear story +But I remember one time we were walking besides a river, trying to catch fish I think. +Anyways after a while walking around I see this handle looking thing poking out of a bush, I obviously grab it and try to pull it out. +It rips through and I stumble back, we couldn't fucking belive it, It was this big rusted long sword. +We were absolutely euphoric, our usual finds were dead critters and trash, so when we found this it was mindblowing +The adults obviously find out and take it away, I never knew what happened to it, they told us they threw it away but I think one of them stashed it for themselves +--- 2535319 +>>2535309 +I am legitimately fascinated, anon. You should become an author :) +--- 2535323 +>>2520232 +most of the time even if you eat poisonous shit it just hurts your tummy +>t. pokeberry enjoyer +--- 2536256 +Grew up going to norther iowa around the mississippi. I did the following; + +Stalked up on deer +Caught snakes and snapping turtles +Searched for cool bottles in the driftwood +Made driftwood forts +Waded through streams +Slept in trees +Squatted and eatched countless things on the ground. +Made campfires in the dark + +Kids who dont grow up going in the woods alone are pansys +--- 2536257 +>>2536256 +Watched countless things* +--- 2536391 +>>2535309 +>It was a big rusted longsword +This is the second +>I found a longsword in the woods +Story I've heard, why the fuck is this so common? Do people really just leave their longsword in the woods? +--- 2536392 +>>2520359 +Some time in his teens at least. If he had a buddy at this age it would be okay but walking alone is just asking for trouble. +Buddy system and a phone / radio. +--- 2537109 +>bump +--- 2537404 +>>2520232 +Lmao, imagine living a life thinking food comes from the super market. NGMI +--- 2537406 +>>2521974 +Yeah but i got my first blowjobs and shit in the woods. My first kiss at the edge of the woods. + +OP probably got his first kiss in an alley or subway. Fucking gross +--- 2537408 +>>2525664 +Bruh you sound like you are defending pedos. Pedos groom kids, why is that hard to believe for you? +--- 2537410 +>>2533908 +残念だ +--- 2537565 +>bump +--- 2538075 +>bump +--- 2538234 +>>2520224 (OP) +I was fortunate enough to have a cabin with lake shore and about 200 acres of private land growing up. Every weekend me and my cousins would just disappear into the woods while our dads went out and did whatever the hell they wanted. 0 supervision. We'd draw maps and have adventures. Pretend pokemon were real is one I remember. Building forts was a big one. We had some sweet ones too, especially as we got older. Then, even at home there was around 500 acres of undeveloped forest across the street. It was private but all the neighborhood kids would screw around in there anyway. It must have had an old farmstead because there were a few old farm buildings hidden in there and a graveyard of old cars that were probably 1940-1960 vintage, powder blue with fender fins, you know the look. Same deal, exploring, for building, smacking each other with sticks. Just had to be home by the time the street lights came on. It was awesome. Got older and pocket knives and wrist rockets led to some amateur wood carving and very poor attempts at hunting song birds and squirrels. +--- 2538239 +>>2521978 +Lol I forgot about that. I think teenagers take that stuff innawoods to hide it from parents. I remember finding a pair of panties, a condom, and a blanket in the woods once and being too young to know what had happened there. Also found a full 6 pack of Labatt's Blue in bottles and brought it home to my dad. Hindsight, wonder why the hell me and my buddy didn't slam those back. +--- 2538505 +>bump +--- 2538852 +>bump +--- 2539289 +>bump +--- 2539515 +>>2525666 +There is a mountain of scientific evidence which clearly shows that porn is bad for you. There are also numerous examples of pedophiles using it to make children more open to their advances. +--- 2539802 +>bump +--- 2540890 +>bump +--- 2540993 +>>2520359 +I’d say that’s more of an individual question. If you’re confident in his abilities to avoid risky situations and signal for help at the first sign of trouble, then yeah he’s probably fine. + +You don’t have to just let him loose either, wait until he expresses an interest in it, then start by letting him wander off on his own during hikes/exploring and reporting back to a designated spot after a short amount of time. + + Just do whatever you’re comfortable with, he’ll either prove you can trust him or he’ll prove you can’t, either way you won’t know until you give him at least a little bit of freedom. +--- 2541012 +>>2533904 +you never know anon, the universe is a wild place and anything could happen +--- 2541411 +>bump +--- 2542128 +>bump +--- 2542693 +>bump +--- 2542743 +I still fo all that stuff, just alone... and 30 +--- 2544435 +>bump +Keeping this thread alive +--- 2544503 +>>2520224 (OP) +i got lost in the woods in PEI when i was 10 and my dad had to call the RCMP +--- 2544507 +>>2520359 +My family own ten acres of woods in montana. A couple black bear sightings a season and cougars on the game cam every spring. My cousin, a grown man and competent hunter, was chased up into a tree by a cougar in those same woods years ago while he was archery hunting. This was probable less than a 75 yards from the house. I don't know the layout of your property, but I wouldn't let a child in woods alone where cougars are known to be. I'd make him go with a friend or two at least. Alone, id wait for me to be comfortable with him carrying a gun/mace which depends on the child but roughly 12-14. +--- 2545390 +>>2537410 +Konichiwa? +--- 2546142 +>bump +--- 2546234 +>>2525666 +Nice try satan +--- 2546235 +>>2527864 +That really neat! +--- 2546896 +>bump +--- 2547275 +>>2520224 (OP) +We built a bad ass fort with all the kids in the neighborhood. It started as some 2x4s nailed to trees and over time just evolved into an incredible structure(given that we were all 8-12 years old.) We'd take wood wherever we could get it, usually out of neighbor's trash during the spring. Eventually teenagers started drinking in it so we built a new one, right on the bank of the river. We could fish off the side of the fort and have bonfires and camp in a clearing down a small path about 20 yards away. It was really awesome. I'm blessed to have had a dank childhood. +--- 2547440 +>>2547275 +>inclusive pepe meme is comfy af +--- 2547450 +>>2520224 (OP) +>why +anon, are you even a human being +did you ever have a childhood, WTF +explore, playing pretend, building things from sticks, swimming in a creek. digging holes, shooting my bb gun, riding my bike, climbing trees, fishing, relaxing on a summer day, making fires, playing with the other kids on my street, picking flowers and identifying plants. +--- 2547452 +>>2520359 +8-14 are the most magical and formative years in a childs life. kids are much smarter than they are often given credit for. just make sure he/she understands the risks and dangers of the area. we live in an age of cell phones and somehow parents are more sheltering than before. we need to instill a love of freedom and independence in the next generation and like it or not that carries risk. the sooner in your life you van make mistakes and learn from them the better. +--- 2547455 +>>2547452 +>8-14 are the most magical and formative years in a childs life +Let's see what did I do with those years? +>public school in a rapidly niggerizing and mexicanizing suburb, video games, no female childhood friends, yelling parents, family trips stopped after siblings 6 and 7 came along +... +--- 2547461 +>>2547455 +why do you think i spent so much time in the woods at that age anon. +--- 2547923 +>bump +--- 2548326 +>bump +--- 2548637 +>>2520224 (OP) +I grew up in a small industrial city without any woods within walking distance. We only had a few small parks. I do have fond memories of walking along the train tracks for miles, though, and occasionally trainhopping as a teenager in the early-2000s. +--- 2548675 +>>2547455 +I spent those years on Ultima Online. What a fucking waste. +--- 2548894 +>>2547455 +Y'know, if you look at that school picture from Columbine someone else posted, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold seem to have a friend group. And where friends enough with some girls that they'd put their arms around them in the 2nd photo. + +In other words, you managed to isolate yourself to a level even those sad sacks didn't manage. +--- 2548896 +>>2544507 +Your cousin is a pussy. Or rather, your cousin was chased up a tree by a pussy, making him at least one rung lower then a pussy. +--- 2549211 +>bump +--- 2549731 +>bump +--- 2550232 +>bump +--- 2551218 +>bump +--- 2552683 +>bump +--- 2553723 +>bump +--- 2554507 +>bump + +Keeping the thread alive +--- 2554883 +>bump +--- 2555782 +>Bump +--- 2555789 +>>2520410 +Let him go when you can trust him to carry a gun if you're in bear territory. An 8 year old could easily startle a bear on accident if the dogs run off on him. He's too easy a target for a cougar as well. If he wasn't alone it would be better. Kids are much louder in a group. +--- 2555797 +>>2520477 +Well, sure, but you must confront the idea of this decision leading to the injury or death of your child. That's your decision as to where to draw the line. My best friend from middle school drowned while swimming in a pond. It was so sudden and quiet no one even noticed until it was too late. Just a normal day at the pond. But cougar and bear country alone? I'd at least want another kid with him. +--- 2555818 +I grew up in the Chicago suburbs. We had a few large enough swampy forests. You'd hear the coyotes most nights in the summer. Sometimes deer would walk down the sidewalks looking lost. When I'd go out alone I went to explore the closest one, about a mile walk. I found crazy fungus, weird bugs, lazy garter snakes, great horned owls, sometimes even eagles. There would be loads of different birds depending on the season. The woods would flood and the more reclusive water birds could be found in the middle of the woods. There were even a couple beaver that I'd watch until they'd inevitably be captured and taken back to the larger forest preserve. + +One time I was biking around at night on a trail and pulled off to catch a breath near what used to be soccer fields. As I pulled in my flashlight illuminated dozens of teal blue eyes. It was a full meeting of the coyotes. There must have been a dozen at least. I froze, they froze. I backed up slowly then cycled out of there. They picked up their howling. I wasn't in any real danger, but it spooked me. + +Another time I was out by the golf course in the woods. I saw a herd of deer in there running around. It was weird. They started as a group then split off. I thought they might have had coyotes chasing them but no, they were running from another deer. This deer chased after a group that splintered off. When it bumped into one they all stopped. The ones that scattered started coming together, then the one that was bumped started running after them. They kept doing this. They were playing! Deer play tag. I never would have seen that shit if I hadn't spent so much time in the woods. +--- 2555824 +>>2555818 +Illinois is flat as shit. The forest I played in was largely abandoned. There was one small street with a few houses that were unincorporated. My friend lived in one. There used to be a horse farm in those woods. It closed when the horses were found to have wasting disease, but not after having dozens of dead horses buried in the ground. The wasting disease lives in the dirt for decades, so the place was turned into a forest preserve. There also used to be a sled hill with a little ski lift. All of that was abandoned. So me and my friends would explore the old farm. We found old horse bones. We destroyed an old shed and stripped it of copper. We fucked around on abandoned old equipment. We dragged our sleds out on a long walk through frozen over swamps to get to the hill. Had to be careful since there were loads of rodents living in the snow covered tall grass at the bottom. You'd accidentally dig up a vole in your sled lol. + +The forest is still there. It used to be completely ignored. It would only be me out there. Now there's dirt trails for bikes. Times change. +--- 2557265 +>bump +--- 2557267 +>>2521114 +bump +--- 2557272 +>>2528400 +dumbass lookin to get timber rattler bit +--- 2557274 +>>2533908 +some people are AmericansTM that just haven't made it home +--- 2557275 +>>2557265 +Responding to your current responses offers more discussion than bumping. +--- 2557283 +thread soundtrack +https://youtu.be/qaIvB_wvcjs [Embed] +--- 2558303 +>>2520224 (OP) +>run around +>climb trees +>build forts +>play games like manhunt/hide and seek/etc +>see animals, catch frogs and weird bugs and stuff +>ride bikes on trails and do sick jumps +>sometimes find cool old stuff that famers dumped out there decades ago +>old bottles and pop cans and farm equipment +>i still have a license plate from the 70s i found in the woods as a kid + +Really it's just about being in an environment where you can be alone with your friends and the normal rules of school and your parents don't apply. +--- 2558402 +I grew up where the only forests were fake forests that had houses on either sides so you could never truly be alone and unseen. So, I would assume allowing your kids to truly roam the forest is one of the greatest things you can do for them. IRL Calvin and Hobbes +--- 2558408 +gold tier thread +--- 2558599 +>>2558408 +>gold tier thread +I agree 100% +--- 2559370 +>>2520224 (OP) +UK. We used to go out to the local nature park for days out, or up to the fells. Or it was camping in the Snowdonia range or once in a while up to the Lakes. +I miss those times. Building dens, swimming, finding logs that floated to make into rafts, fighting with sticks, and all the exploring. +--- 2560351 +>bump +--- 2560417 +>>2520439 +looks like an AI generated image +--- 2561410 +>bump +--- 2562196 +>bumpx2 +--- 2562208 +>>2520224 (OP) +we'd go buy snacks from a little shop nearby, and have a little picnic in the woods, sit on the rocks and play Yu-Gi-Oh on an old table. we would build forts too, usually out of pine needles, sticks, and random trash we found. whenever someone moved out or remodeled their kitchen, they'd throw out the old cupboards and such, so we would take them to build stuff. it was like a gold mine to us. +I used to play a lot of Warcraft then. it wasn't so hard to imagine that the woods were filled with ruins inhabited by elves or ogres even though I knew it wasn't true. eventually I realized that the "forest" wasn't even half a mile across, but man when we were little, it seemed HUGE to us. +--- 2562605 +>bump + +This is all good stuff. +--- 2562623 +>>2520224 (OP) +>rural area in NW Oregon, 80s +>used to have free-reign through an area that, looking back, was at least a few square miles +>would explore it with other kids that lived nearby +>play in the cricks, catch crawdads, make campfires, shoot BB guns, build forts, drag an old spray-painted fiberglass boat around to various spots +>used to explore a junkyard in the area owned by my friend's familly +>would build forts out of old tires. I remember we once trapped his annoying cousin in a tube of tires and put one with a wheel on top then pissed on him +>would throw WD-40 cans into the burn pit and try to shoot them +>try to shoot passing cars with a BB gun +>break windows on an abandoned house +>explore these old hermit shacks that were deep in the hills, off the logging road +>would steal Hustlers, baseball cards, and pot from my friend's fat uncle +>in the summer we would leave in the mornings and not come back or report in to any adults until 5 or 6 pm + +Sadly, I shaped up eventually and lost touch with this friend. Last I heard he was in prison in eastern oregon for rape and kidnapping or something like that. So it goes. +--- 2562838 +Just checked, the "woods" behind my childhood home were like 30 acres, but back then it felt huge. Always went there to play with my best friend, who lived a bit further down the road. My memory is a bit hazy, but we spent a lot of time in some kind of fantasy world, with monsters, swords, and that kind of shit. We built this whole mythology of the area and a few times went to "war" with some other kids, making secret hideouts with traps and everything. +When we got a bit older, we also spent a lot of time in the slightly bigger "woods" (~300 acres, converting units for you wonderful Americans) on the other side of the big road. At this point we were a bit too old to fight invisible monsters, we spent most of the time just running around, exploring, climbing trees, getting lost in the old Nazi bunkers, talking about girls. Sometimes we'd bring our bikes to ride them down the hills (now the area is full of MTB trails, back then it wasn't a thing). +Damn, I had an amazing childhood. Haven't spoken to my friend in years, should probably hit him up. +--- 2563829 +>bump +--- 2563832 +>>2520224 (OP) +I played in the woods and field near my house as a kid. Spent a lot of time down at the creek with my grand pa catching crayfish. We went fishing a lot too. In the fall I would pick blackberries. Played by myself most of the time. I had brothers and sisters but I always preferred to be by myself. I'd set up survival camps pretending I was lost in the woods. especially during winter when it snowed. Good times. +--- 2563836 +>>2520224 (OP) +How the fuck is this thread still up? +--- 2563844 +>>2563836 +Quite frankly this thread is the soul of /out/ +--- 2563848 +>>2563836 +Magic +--- 2564690 +>>2520224 (OP) + +It was 2001-2004, i was 11-14 y.o. at that time and lived in a small-ish town in Estonia. Small kiosks had babushkas that would sell us kids cigarettes and alcohol, condoms etc. So we met local girls from poor/dysfunctional families like ours and kissed, touched played around. Sometimes we got them drunk and some of us were lucky enough to get a bj or to insert the tip etc. All of it in the nearby woods ofc. We would build camps and go robbing houses for materials like plastic, nails, tools etc. at night. Soon we had built a fort, treehouse, watchtower, cooking spot etc. We also loved to visit computer clubs and at first made money by collecting bottles, then by stealing, then by breaking car windows and stealing radios, then by robbing houses. The attendance grew and once we we 10-15 strong we got access to weed, amphetamine and extacy. That's when i started to branch out because things were really getting out of hand and since i was a good student, had hopes/dreams/goals and a positive worldview(also brains)so it wasn't hard to change circles, although i had to fight my way out with some of the guys. Now i'm 33, well off and live a good life while some of those people are unimaginable losers, incarcerated or homeless/drug addicts. It was wild though ngl. and it gave me a lot of experience at a very young age. +--- 2564692 +>>2525672 +>You'd need to be somewhere secluded to wank anyway. + +Lol, my Mom used to provide me with fresh napkins on my computer table regularly and sometimes i had forgotten to wipe a small stain on the table etc. so she did it for me. Never talked about it though. Loved my Mom. +--- 2564881 +>>2520224 (OP) +I grew up in a small ontario town and was honestly alone for most of my childhood and wandered around in the woods, fields, and other places unsupervised. There were times were i was definitely not safe but my parents didn't care and I was incredibly curious, I swam in places I shouldn't have, gone so much farther and almost got lost. It has a huge influence on me now, I can wander into the woods and spend hours just watching and interacting with plants. +It does make me sad for OP because the idea of not having woods and fields and rivers and forests in my life would honestly make me hollow. The amount of joy, peace, and honestly meaning I get even now going out never gets old. +--- 2564884 +>>2562838 +one of my beloved forests was completely stripped for a huge subdivision, there is like a small patch left at the fringe, walking through and seeing that little patch and recognizing it killed me. +--- 2564885 +>>2564690 +Wow estonia really is a shithole +--- 2565354 +>>2564885 + +Not really. It was just my town which has mostly russians in it and they make every place they go a shithole. I really would've liked to have a simpler and more friendly childhood like some of the anons i read. Life deals us different cards i guess so its mostly up to the player. +--- 2565827 +There was a wood behind the local park, close to my home. +When we were kindergarten aged our parents started letting us play there within earshot and eventually the parents fucked off and we were unattended. +Wasn't much to do, and we stayed in a smallish grove mostly. +The teens in the neighborhood built a tree fort with random planks and an exercise bike, but the parents tore it down a month later, so it never got to legendary levels. + +My best friends and I would run around, we had names for different areas and our little feet carved paths all around the woods. We never strayed beyond the Meadow into the older Stinky Forest (something like that) save a few times. We found old junk piles there, little else. It was a haunted place, too quiet, ominous to approach. One time we tried to cross the meadow, but every time we got half way across a 40kt gale would kick up and blow us back. After several attempts we just stayed back. + +I could probably still draw out a map of every piece of that grove with fairly vivid images in my head, like the spot we found a fox den, or the Fort Thicket full of dense thorns we would crawl into and had a secluded "house" of sorts walled with shrubs (we also built mad forts in my parents basement with all the furniture and blankets). +We imagined fighting off Indians or whatever, and mostly just ran around barefoot and chased each other around or played tag.l when we weren't treating the park equipment as a climbing challenge. + +It all got bulldozed a decade ago for soulless mcmansions. I was back from college for a weekend at the time and got to say goodbye to all the trees that helped raise me, including the Heart of the Forest old oak that we built our fort on. + +Having children and not giving them this should be criminal. My cousin, who I spent many days running around catching frogs with by his cottage now has kids and raises them with YouTube 24/7 and won't let them out of sight. They have every toy on earth but build nothing themselves. +--- 2565834 +My wife grew up in the third world surrounded by jungle. They went hard on "primitive survival" crafting and forts. Made their own dolls out of grass and twigs and mud type stuff. Ran around pretty much feral half the day. Biggest family around, they could more or less bully the other kids by sheer numbers, as could their semi feral family dog pack that would occasionally hunt down and murder other dogs (before getting sold to the butcher themselves kek). + +They had marbles and anime trading cards. Apparently rubber bands were the primary currency (?). + +After midnight on full moons the whole village would wake and the kids would run around playing hide and seek and tag and CTF and cops n robbers in the dark jungle and among the farms without any electric lighting (paraffin until the late 90s). Apparently the tales of medieval euros having split sleeping schedules with midnight being a wakeful time aren't wrong. +>Americans thought they could beat these people on their home ground +It was the children's favorite game to play VC at night lol. +--- 2567140 +>bump + +I love this thread. +--- 2567145 +>>2565354 +>act like a degenerate +>b-but it was the Russians fault! +typical butthurt belter +--- 2567270 +>>2520224 (OP) +Grew up in rural Canada, which outside of cities is simply most of Canada. Anyways, thankfully the biggest thing we had to "worry" about was coyotes, but they never fucked with people in my town. If you were really unsure, you'd just bring along a baseball bat or hockey stick or find a big tree branch. As for what I did, it depended. I'd bike around with my brother and make forts. If I was alone, I'd essentially do exactly what Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes did. I'd imagine I was on some far off planet, or in some video game world. I played Dawn of War 1 as a kid, and used to pretend I was a space marine killing Orks. There's a scene in the intro cinematic where a tank buster Ork blows up a dreadnought, and I used to reenact that scene by just chucking myself off of branches into big snowbanks. Or by heaving myself down hills. Other times I'd make up my own stories in my head and just act out the physical part in real life. Of course, it was also handy for taking the dogs out for walks. There's also a strange amount of old ass abandoned cars in farmers fields and ravines. One was rusted and had a bunch of holes in it. I like to think it was some mobsters car that got gunned down. + +But yeah you basically just ran around and used your imagination. Was pretty relaxing. +--- 2567901 +>>2567270 +This reminds me I would make Zelda swords out of some stakes, wrap them in clear packing tape, use color markers on the tape, wrap in another layer, etc, like 7 times so it looked like picrel, then swat fireflies so it glowed (mean in retrospect, but good fun at the time). +>ran around and used your imagination +Peak life +--- 2568575 +>bump diff --git a/out/2536105.txt b/out/2536105.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..510f4849d3d0f56485b783a852330ade35bbf983 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2536105.txt @@ -0,0 +1,553 @@ +----- +--- 2536105 +https://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/bill-would-allow-physical-force-to-terminate-suspected-trespass/article_25d72762-a710-11ed-a9b7-6b56f92e00fd.html + +Pretty interesting in that they want fewer state officials involved in the matter and might let people take simple matters into their own hands. +--- 2536107 +>>2536105 (OP) +what will we do if this outbreak of common sense spread to other states? +i know the cunty/shitty progressives will cry foul, but god damn has coddling people ever helped, anyone, anywhere? + +>tfw living in oregon and every scrap of open land around eugene has turned into a defacto homeless shelter. + +if some number of them were to be gassed word might get round that maybe being freeloading trash isn't a great idea. worst case scenario there would just be fewer of them shitting up the streets/parks/sidewalks. +--- 2536112 +>>2536107 +>You got any change? +--- 2536114 +>>2536109 +posts like this make me want to visit wyoming again. +(i'd never move there, because they are obviously full and outsiders need to fuck off back whence they came.) +--- 2536118 +>>2536105 (OP) +>now you listen here sandhiller +>I gots you now on trespassin +>And you're fixin to get got on enguzzlement, armed slobbery and acceptin swollen goods over 2 inches +> This ain't nobody business butt ours +Are they making this whole state ram ranch? +--- 2536251 +>>2536105 (OP) +this should only be a thing if corner crossing was also legal. +--- 2536261 +>>2536251 +i've never heard a solid justification for banning corner crossing. +i mean the main reason seems to be to allow ranchers to control as much public land as possible, while minimizing the amount they have to own themselves in order to do it. +any other rationale? +--- 2536313 +>>2536261 +>property right are a mysterious conspiracy!!11 +It's that you don't actual own property if randos are allowed to enter without permission you mentally ill parasite. +--- 2536327 +>>2536313 +I dont think you understand what corner crossing is. You can literally step from public land to public land WITHOUT stepping on private land...and yet somehow that is trespassing because the property rights supposedly extend into the airspace....and you are supposedly violating that air space even tho you are not touching private land. + +Which is essentially contradictory with the stream acess law (in MT) that allows you to travel thru private property via streambeds. +--- 2536330 +>>2536327 +That is some extreme gold medal level mental gymnastics. +So my assessment was accurate then? +Posted: +>>2536261 +--- 2536336 +>>2536313 +I almost certainly own more land than you anon. +--- 2536339 +>>2536336 +>cuckhold trying to brag about his wife +kek +--- 2536387 +>>2536327 +What the fuck? Doesn't the US have right of way? Here in the UK and pretty much every country I've ever been in, you can walk through any private land and only need to leave once the landowner tells you you are tresspassing. If you are just passing through they, they largely can't do shit. +--- 2536537 +>>2536118 +>enguzzlement, armed slobbery and acceptin swollen goods +Lost +--- 2536627 +>>2536387 +It's the same in the US. Unless a property is clearly marked as "NO TRESPASSING", then you are legally allowed to be there until someone tells you to leave, which is why so many people in the US have no trespassing signs around their property. Also, despite what people here will tell you, as long as you're not a strung out drug addicted faggot weirdo, people will usually talk to you before they pull out their gun and start firing. +--- 2536693 +>>2536261 +In America, one of the fundamental land owning concepts we have and had for hundreds of years is that you have a lawful right to exclude people from your land. That’s it, there’s no argument or persuasion, it’s a just a hard rule we have. It’s why easements exist. +--- 2536703 +>>2536693 +>lawful right to exclude people from your land +but the issue is that corner crossing doesnt infringe on private land. You literally do not step on anyone's private property by corner crossing. +--- 2536706 +>be me +>don't know what corner crossing is +>pic related +What the fuck? +>mfw people have actually been charged with criminal trespassing for this shit +--- 2536718 +>>2536706 +Yep it’s bullshit. +100% a way to encircle and deprive the public of public land. but the owner will gladly sell you a weekend pass to transit his land to get over to the BLM land he’s gatekeeping. +--- 2536734 +>>2536718 +There was a documentary on this. A few private land owners put up gates and locks on public easements, as the land owners were running hunting lodges and it gave their customers exclusive access to BLM areas. +--- 2536735 +>>2536703 +We don’t know what it is yet because the suit hasn’t gone to trial. You’re taking one dudes complaint and saying it’s legal precedent. +--- 2536743 +>>2536735 +>You’re taking one dudes complaint and saying it’s legal precedent. +Im not saying anything of the sort. I am simply pointing out the facts. If you dont step on someone'e property you should be considered tresspassing +--- 2536769 +>>2536743 +>should be +shouldnt +--- 2536772 +>>2536109 +Bonus. +--- 2536775 +>>2536313 +Fragmenting public land into checkerboard squares so only railroad and mining companies would have access to it was unironically a conspiracy. +--- 2536926 +I hate the federal goverment as much as the next guy, but they should just make 1.5ft on each side of a corner an easement. So as long as you don't damage the fence you can cross. Or spend some of my fucking money to stall crossovers to connect public land. Would be like 50$ a pop and paying a forest janny to hike out and set it up +--- 2536984 +>>2536926 +i dunno, these ranchers and their lawyers have names and addresses. +at the end of the day they are stealing from the public, there should be consequences + +like maybe find out where they live or work, or shop -- and show up with a posse and just start tickling them. and i don't mean just a little tickle, and the resulting light giggle -- but full on, heavy duty tickling until they wet themselves. a 20 minute long multi-person tickle-fest, until they just cannot handle it anymore + +but the entire premise that you are 'violating their airspace' by corner crossing is such obvious bullshit, only a lawyer would put any stock in that explanation. +--- 2536998 +>>2536114 +cuck mindset +--- 2537011 +Unless they catch you in the middle of corner crossing, once you are in the blm land what can they actually do? They can't say you are trespassing because you are on public land at that moment. If you perfectly execute a corner cross you would only be on their land for a split second. That is not enough time to ask you to leave or point a gun and shoot at you. +--- 2537015 +>>2536706 +Wow fuck this +Why would anyone ever put up with this shit, if I ever encounter this in real life I'll just """trespass""" and the owner can cry about it +--- 2537016 +>>2537011 +I think in WY it’s several hundred in fines and 6mos in jail. +Ranchers/hunting lodges do not fuck around with you circumventing their paypiggie racket and will press charges. +--- 2537115 +>>2536339 +Based ESL larper +--- 2539291 +>>2536109 +This makes me want to go to Wyoming. +--- 2539312 +>>2537011 +Wyoming may have the air of nothing going on backwoods but without the woods retard place to coasties but the truth is it's just a gigantic open air playground for the unimaginably rich now. They make a game out of how to strategically buy land to encircle other land so they in effect own triple or more of actual land. Because no one else can actually get to the """public""" land legally. +--- 2539362 +>>2539312 +Isn't all that encirclement going on in the plains where grazing is viable? I think all the areas you'd want to actually hike through are easily accessed public land (Yellowstone, wind river range, Bob Marshall, absaroka)... +>no coasties +I would've thought with Yellowstone there and all the ads WY would be swarming with them. And given the low population and native component they'd be flipping blue any day now. +No? +Or did the coasties all stop at Boise for now, have to wait for prices to get another +50% jacked up before they locust eastward? +--- 2539412 +>>2539362 +>I would've thought with Yellowstone there and all the ads WY would be swarming with them. And given the low population and native component they'd be flipping blue any day now. + +They go north to Bozeman +--- 2539471 +>>2536387 +>uk +Not anymore. +--- 2539498 +>>2536114 +you’re a bitch lmao this is America we can go wherever we want +same mindset as people who won’t travel to Hawaii because the locals hate white people +--- 2539597 +>>2539545 +What. +--- 2539605 +>>2536327 +It doesn't make sense I I can build a structure not touching your land but a few inches above it. Land owners own the air space above to whatever height. +This is separate from the absolute stupidity that is this corner crossing case, they stepped over so no big deal. I think there's much more to the case than the article suggested. +--- 2539606 +>>2539605 +>Land owners own the air space above to whatever height. +There is not a single private entity in the US that owns any amount of airspace. The federal government owns and regulates airspace. They "allow" you to interact with lower thresholds, like flying a drone or riding one of those propeller packs. But no, you do not own airspace and never will. +--- 2539634 +>>2539291 +Please stay away. We are full +--- 2539664 +>>2539634 +Wyoming isn't full, goober. It's one of the least densely populated states in the US. +--- 2539668 +>>2539412 +Makes sense, my theconversation.com-slurping ultraliberal friend lives there. He whines incessantly about the local Nazis. +Are there a lot of Nazi types up there too? +--- 2539742 +>>2536706 +WY ranch fags are the most contempt-able "i know what I got" boomers you could think of. I would not be upset if raiders murdered them in their sleep. +--- 2539752 +>>2539606 +Which is the logical next step for thumbing one's nose at the corner trolls if they persist: flying some sort of personal quadcopter, ultralight, or other VTOL craft into the blocked-off public land. We may not have a Euro-style right to roam enshrined in law, but a right of overflight above 500ft is unequivocal. +--- 2539885 +>>2539362 +>I think all the areas you'd want to actually hike through are easily accessed public land + +there is a lot of public land that is inaccessible. ONX did a paper on it...and its a bigger deal for hunters rather than hiking per se + +https://www.trcp.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/2019-onX-TRCP-Report.pdf +--- 2539888 +>>2539605 +>>2539606 + +Here is a good article on the issue/case + +https://amerisurv.com/2023/02/09/corner-crossing/ +--- 2540002 +>>2539752 +>>2539888 +Don't ever go full retard again. It's not a good look. +--- 2540359 +>>2540002 +You personal experience is not a guarantee for others. +--- 2540423 +>>2536105 (OP) +boy i can't wait to get shot crossing from a public piece of land to another public piece of land because some retard 4th generation rancher thinks he is a king. as if it wasn't already bad enough that their herds destroy everything they come in contact with. +--- 2542220 +>>2540423 +Based landchad, removing /out/istic anons from his property. +--- 2542327 +>>2539362 +>Implying coasties watch Yellowstone +--- 2542568 +>>2536743 +What the fuck is corner crossing? +By the name i assume it was cutting across the corner of someone land, but obviously thats not the case since you said corner crossing isnt stepping foor on someone land. +--- 2542572 +>>2539606 +Retard, "airspace" does not begin until a certain height above your property. +--- 2542573 +>>2542568 +look at this picture>>2536706 +it is crossing those corners of the checkerboard land plots. +--- 2542575 +>>2542573 +I see. My next question would be, did the persons involved actually step over the property marker? Or did they cut through the private property +>but it wasnt like they cut through much it was just a little bit so it doesnt matter! +--- 2542582 +>>2536706 +Yeah as an Aussie I'm a bit confused. Doesn't Wyoming have easements/road reserves? +--- 2542611 +>>2542575 +>did they cut through the private property +Who cares? Right of way should overrule the few square feet you'd have to cross. +--- 2542646 +>>2542611 +>who cares +...all parties involved? +You do realize the US does not have right of way laws like some eurocuck states do. +If someone doesnt want you on their property, you have no right to be there. Passing through or otherwise. +--- 2542982 +>>2536706 +That's private property, zoomer. +--- 2543066 +>>2536109 +Don't come to idaho either you hapless ingrate. +--- 2543598 +>>2536118 +I'm dying! +--- 2543615 +>>2536261 +>i mean the main reason seems to be to allow ranchers to control as much public land as possible +This is exactly what it is. I guarantee the first time some cowboy buckaroo tries to blast a BLM employee corner crossing to BLM land the law will change. +--- 2543624 +>>2539362 +I think it's just a matter of time until a lawsuit fucks all those rich fuckers in the ass. The courts are going to smack this corner shit down as it is plainly common sense. Then they are gonna have to deal with all the hunters and rainbow fags crossing allover their lands. +--- 2543625 +>>2539664 +Not one of, IS. Pop is in the 600k range. Doesn't even break a million. Pathetic! +--- 2543626 +>>2543624 +The Wyoming legislature could solve this problem easily they just choose to be faggots too. +--- 2543627 +>>2542646 +Lol...found the no land poor. It's called an easement poorfag. Like that strip of grass between the road and the sidewalk in front of a house. You can lay down on that and take a nap at a strangers house and they can't really do shit about it because it is an easement. The courts could easily declare an easement at the corners and be done with this shit. The federal congress could declare that anyone that cuts off public land in this way is a 'de facto owner' and force them to pay tax on that including all the years of back taxes. They could do that pretty easily. +--- 2543632 +>>2543627 +Jesus fuck youre retarded. I asked if they passed through the private property or the easement +--- 2543684 +>>2539668 +>Are there a lot of Nazi types up there too? +Not him, but no. Your friend is a typical progressive who thinks anyone who doesn't favor gun control and faggot marriage is a literal Nazi. In a mostly-rural state full of traditional gun owners. +--- 2544367 +>>2543627 +don't easements have a stated purpose though? like in your example, the easement might cover transit, as in you can cross the easement for any reason, but that's not extended to camping out on it. +like for example on my property there's an easement for firebreaks on the adjoining property, legally our neighbors could come onto our property and cut down trees to maintain the 100' firebreak around their dwelling, and vice versa. (luckily that's never been needed.) but that's the extent of the rights on the other side of the property line + +the corner crossing idiocy could be handled that way, or simply state that property owners do not own the air space at corners. either way it's contrary to the spirit of public land, and they are absolutely exploiting the system for personal gain, to the detriment of the public at large. + +it's theft and should be treated accordingly. +--- 2544370 +>>2544367 +>either way it's contrary to the spirit of public land +The spirit of public land is contrary to the spirit of america. +Its not the surrounding land owners fault that the government is refusing to sell those parcels. +--- 2544802 +>>2544370 +99% of the USA is shit. The people, the cities, the culture. The only thing worthwhile is the public land. +--- 2544841 +>>2544802 +Best country on earth, cry about it. +--- 2544854 +>>2544841 +>Best country on earth (for obese niggers) +Fixed +--- 2544857 +>>2544854 +--- 2544863 +>>2544802 +This is going in my nu-out folder. +--- 2544869 +>>2544863 +Unfortunately it’s a hard truth for many redditors to accept. +--- 2544884 +>>2544869 +peak nu-out Tbh +--- 2544935 +>>2542572 +In the US federal regulators can determine where devices like drones and remote control airplanes can be used regardless of how "high" you fly them. For example if you live two miles from an airport its illegal to fly a drone outdoors regardless of the altitude... like anything else it's only illegal if you get caught. +Same with trees even--if you live a certain distance from an approach vector to an airport they can make you cut your trees down. + +The "where does airspace begin" isn't the minimum altitude for private or commercial aircraft but the point above ground where the federal government determines what can and cant fly--which is whatever the feds want it to be. +--- 2544936 +>>2544935 +Which is why nobody except the federal government owns "airspace". Despite all the seething in this thread. +--- 2544952 +I live in Wyoming and most of this is true. The economy is controlled by two groups - ranchers, and oil/coal guys. The government of course caters to them because they have the most money. But it's changing, due to Jackson Hole, a town on the west border. There, millionaires are getting pushed out by billionaires. All of them from coastal states. They throw a lot of money around and usually get their way. Laramie, and half of Cheyenne and Casper agrees with them. + +I don't care as long as they don't start fucking with gun laws. In WY, once you turn 18 you can own any long gun and carry it in public, though few do. And at 21, you can own and concealed carry a handgun. No license required, no bullshit needed. As it should be. It's no wonder that we have so little violent crime here. Most common crimes are drunk driving and bar fights. Nobody can make a career out of it when there's a solid 60% chance that you'll be shot dead if you start causing trouble. Even the cops are pretty relaxed here, as long as you're white. +--- 2545094 +>>2536118 +Lol +--- 2545104 +>>2536109 +Gr8 b8 +--- 2545105 +>>2539498 +Did you really fall for that? +--- 2545127 +>>2544935 +>regardless of how "high" you fly them. +Incorrect. Like literally factually incorrect. +Why would you be wrong on the internet. +--- 2545184 +>>2536327 +So what. For the split second you're technically trespassing, what's going to happen? The call the warden, but you're already off their land. You'll get a warning. Camp all weekend on the public land they have landlocked and make them seethe. Any fine you might get when you leave and trespass the second time is worth it. +--- 2545478 +>>2545184 +>So what. +for the most part you correct...until you arent. See>>2539888 +--- 2545643 +>>2539888 +That landowner sounds like a complete asshole. +--- 2546484 +>>2545643 +As is his right. +--- 2548405 +>>2544952 +>care as long as they don't start fucking with gun laws. In WY, once you turn 18 you can own any long gun and carry it in public +That's a federal law, goofus. +--- 2548417 +>can't even step on someone's ranch in bumfuck nowhere arid wasteland without threat of being arrested or sued +>would never be able to afford ranching land of your own without being practically rich +America is dead. +--- 2548421 +>>2548417 +>get to throw people off my land and protect my land from degenerates, fags, liberals, and cityfolk +America is healing. +--- 2548425 +>>2548421 +Ah yes the fags that often go skulking about on rural Wyoming ranches, soliciting gay sex from the lonely lusty ranch hands. Finally it's open season. Larper. +--- 2548426 +>>2548425 +How can you miss that badly. +--- 2548454 +>>2548426 +Miss what? The seasonal migration of trespassing fags? You just a retarded rural cuck instead of a larper, then? You'd think you'd be grateful for the supposedly wandering fags. It's the only wet hole around for miles besides the animals and we know you've had your fill of ol' Bessie already. Need something to suck you before calving season starts. +--- 2548476 +>>2548454 +nta but yeah... thats a hard miss my guy. +--- 2548608 +>>2548421 +Isn’t this landowner a drug peddling city dweller from Baltimore? +--- 2548688 +>>2548608 +Yep +--- 2549310 +>>2548476 +Oh so it means nothing. If you're going to be mysterious about it, you're just covering for having nothing substantial. Pure trash then, huh. Just shitting in the wind. +--- 2549589 +>>2549310 +What part of nta do you not understand. You just ignore everything said and call the guy a fag, is that supposed to be an argument? Because its not, its a miss. +--- 2549650 +>>2549589 +Ooooh I get it now! You're retarded. He apparently has migrating fags on his property. He said it himself. Did you read anything, retard? Go back up the comment chain. +--- 2549666 +>>2549650 +Why are you so mad +--- 2549669 +>>2549666 +He's probably one of the people that was called out in the post. +--- 2551191 +>>2549666 +Mad? I'm laughing at you, silly. But hey, you're not inventive enough to shoot the shit with apparently. + +>>2549669 +Your low effort shit is boring. You also scared about wandering bands of fags trespassing on your acreage? That's what my first comment was about. Making fun of a stupid comment. +--- 2551569 +>>2551191 +>i was seething comedically +--- 2551609 +>>2551191 +Yeah, he was definitely called out +--- 2552107 +Arizonians would like to extend a heartfelt lmao to the absolute state of dipshits encircling public land to cut it off and exploit it themselves + +See you in 20 years +--- 2552158 +>>2552107 +Boy have i got news for you +--- 2552268 +>>2552158 +I'm waiting for the news man c'mon what's the word, tell me about Arizona a state of people who seem to mostly want to be left the fuck alone no matter who they are, tell me about the public lands they block off access to here in Arizona +--- 2552276 +>>2552268 +>a state of people who seem to mostly want to be left the fuck alone no matter who they are +--- 2552290 +>>2552276 +>doesnt know anything about anyone outside Phoenix and Tucson(AKA Southern California) +--- 2552468 +>>2537011 +They know you cant access that captive public land without trespassing on theirs, and they will press charges against you, and they will win because the state is in their pocket. + +WY is a bunch of rich hobby ranchers +--- 2552480 +>>2536105 (OP) +>wyoming +POS mafia state ran by ranchers who got their land because grandpappy was an actual serial killer rapist and killed the settlers around him. This hellhole should have more nuclear missile silos built in it so Russia leaves absolutely nothing left of this embarrassment to humanity when the world war starts. +--- 2552485 +>>2548421 +>ranch is owned by a pharma billionaire from New York +--- 2552486 +>>2544884 +My buddy who served in the Green Berets, worked as a firefighter, and more agrees with the sentiment that 99% of people are shit. +--- 2552490 +>>2536627 +Not necessarily. + +Trespassing is an intentional tort. But in the case of trespassing, because the US has its head up its own ass, “intent” just means that you intentionally went into someone’s land, not that you *knowledgably* went on their land. Its a stupid petty legal distinction to get people in trouble. +--- 2552491 +>>2552490 (Me) + +I should say I know this to be true for civil lawsuits, but I don’t know about criminal +--- 2552509 +>>2536105 (OP) +Based +>>2536107 +>tfw living in oregon +>mfw up in western Washington +Now I'm not about to let Seattle chase me out of my birthplace, but damn the government sucks up here compared to other states. +--- 2552538 +>>2552290 +>Phoenix and Tucson(AKA Southern California) +So you admit these "people" exist in the state of arizona. + +Thanks for playing retard +--- 2552540 +>>2552486 +>my homosexual boot licker buddy +--- 2552755 +>>2552540 +You don't understand, anon. His friend's dad works for Nintendo. +--- 2552789 +>>2536118 +consider it...UNDER SEIGE!!!! +--- 2554761 +>>2552789 +Under lockdown?! +--- 2556328 +>>2552268 +Arizonans act life they want to be left the fuck alone then get up in other people's business like they're owed it. When the road rage shootings were real bad I couldn't help but laugh. A state full of people going DON'T TREAD ON ME while taking a shit on their neighbor. Okay things get more chill up in Northern Arizona. I've met some great people in the mountains. The desert? Bat shit people. Lots of drugs. The city? Phoenix is hilarious. They just built an entire tower out of shipping containers, no joke. It's total shit. 100% car centered city. Hot as fuck. Full of self centered entitled, just honestly mean angry people. There's good people too, but there's a character to Phoenix that makes it feel small and yet spread out. In that way there's friendly people but they're spread out. +--- 2556420 +>>2556328 +>100% car centered city. +Okay but thats based +--- 2556432 +>>2556420 +No. It sucks. Phoenix is a gauntlet where you run from air conditioning to air conditioning. That's such a shitty way to live. +--- 2556461 +>>2556432 +Sounds like a personal problem +--- 2556809 +>>2546484 +Eminent domain go brrrr +--- 2556811 +>>2556395 +Time to use his house as a backstop then. While shooting on public land of course +--- 2556955 +>>2556809 +>the government will try to fight against your right +...yes? Are you trying to make a point? +--- 2556956 +>>2556811 +Enjoy your long drop and short stop then i guess +--- 2556972 +>>2536105 (OP) +wdym? trespassers get shot all the time, it doesn't make the rounds in propaganda media you call "news" though +--- 2557250 +>>2556461 +Not really, since people seem to keep dying of exposure even when they were raised in the elements. You know anyone who works at a local hospital? The amount of people who show up with heat stress despite living there is comical. +--- 2557264 +>>2556972 +In today's liberal society? Nobody gets shot for trespassing anymore. If you did that you would go to prison for life. +--- 2557511 +>>2557250 +>people seem to keep dying of exposure even when they were raised in the elements. +Yeah thats literally a personal problem. +--- 2559420 +>>2557511 +This but unironically +--- 2560835 +I don't support ranchers because they just further the spic-nig cycle with their beef production. +--- 2562361 +Y'all need to chill out because the bill died in committee already. +--- 2564334 +Why not just shoot the ranchers and bury them on thier land and never come back +--- 2564363 +>>2564334 +Ranchers, being generally productive members of society, cant go missing without someone noticing within 12hr. +You on the other hand... +--- 2566145 +>>2562361 +Welp. America was healing... +--- 2566171 +>>2564363 +>Ranchers, being generally productive members of society +Fucking lmao. +--- 2566172 +>>2564363 +>my 2000 cows make America go round I can't wait to sell to a Tyson meat plant +--- 2566377 +>>2566171 +>>2566172 +Do citytards really? +--- 2566683 +>>2544857 +Colander? +--- 2566686 +America should have a right to roam law. It’s kinda cucked that you can’t walk around in your own country. +--- 2566691 +>>2539888 +This has to be one of the stupidest things to get in an argument, let alone a legal one, that I have seen. This is a 1st grade argument over the rules of Calvinball that somehow got brought into the judicial system. +--- 2566946 +>>2566683 +Copper sieve +>cope and seethe +--- 2566947 +>>2566686 +>having to ask someone to go on their property +Oh no the horror! + +But anyways, theres plenty of public land for you to larp on. Even on the east coast there are town or county owned """state""" parks everywhere. diff --git a/out/2537031.txt b/out/2537031.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1f58af60f5f0f78e7968f7ed81cd636c5984b0cb --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2537031.txt @@ -0,0 +1,838 @@ +----- +--- 2537031 +Climb on +--- 2537037 +got all this for 500 nzd, 71 pieces +most of it without a scratch on it +--- 2537055 +>>2537037 +nice score. If you don't already grab a nut tool for when those get welded in place +--- 2537064 +>>2537031 (OP) +Is pic related climbable? Maybe too chossy? +--- 2537066 +>>2537055 +already have one and also find it comes in handy for scraping out moss. +>>2537064 +the big pile of rubble at the bottom is generally a red flag +--- 2537068 +i got these 23 cams for 500 from the same guy too. +was quitting climbing and selling his whole rack. +had another listing for 4 link cams and 3 other newer ones for 500 but didn't go for that one +--- 2537077 +>>2537064 +If that is Devil's Tower it is climbable, also looks like a solid crack routes up it. + +>>2537068 +>link cams +only heard those are a gimmicky and not that practical +--- 2537078 +>>2537077 +the thing that turned me off them was the rigid stem, not every crack is nice and vertical and having all your weight slam it down over an edge is sus +--- 2537080 +>>2537077 +>Devil's Tower +Yeah it is, you're right. +--- 2537352 +>>2537077 +>only heard those are a gimmicky and not that practical +Link cams are heavy, single axle, and rigid stem so you wouldn't want a full rack of them. + +They really shine for building gear anchors because they fit anywhere. Most folks I know who have one will bring up either a single red or orange on multi pitch +--- 2537369 +>>2537037 +>>2537068 +Nice haul +--- 2537468 +hurt my left ringer finger awhile ago started feeling good enough to climb a little harder, now my right pinky is hurt. fml. +--- 2537954 +Hopped on the Nightcrawler (5.10+ 5p T) yesterday. This route is SICK! Almost sent it all clean until the real crux on p3 on a mantle ledge and then whipped like 4 times on the p4 laybacks. Hands and fingers were all churned up and bloody. It was a fuckin hoot. Getting more fun to try hard and send or whip; definitely growing as a climber. Maybe a year ago I’d still be a bit spooked to fall on gear. Now we’re rockin and rollin. +--- 2538053 +If you didn't know climbing was relocated to /xs/. +If you already knew then gl on your climbs OP. +--- 2538068 +>>2537954 +>5.10+ +I don't like this kind of vaguery. +--- 2538069 +>>2538053 +Go on and fondle your plastic. +--- 2538290 +Anybody ever gone mountaineering? I went once and was bugged that we were "climbing" the mountain but it just felt like a hard hike. +--- 2538313 +>>2538053 +"I-is that a wooden banana?" + +I guess you pretty much have to pull it out at that point. +--- 2538325 +>>2538068 +I’d say it’s really up in the air. I’d take 5.10c/d or even a soft 11a. Probably easiest to just call it “5.10+” but the best way for you to know is to go climb it :) +--- 2538326 +>>2538290 +I’d like to go mountaineering, I guess the closest I’ve come is bear creek spire (5.3 alpine romp). I’m sure the bigger game is more mountaineering and technical climbing together. You’re at least out on a mountain! +--- 2538362 +>>2538053 +But we go outside here +--- 2538767 +>>2538290 +Not yet but that is the goal. I've done a few mountain hikes but have yet to have a true alpine experience. Winter skills and avalanche training will be necessary to make it as a mountaineer though +--- 2538775 +whats the best state for a climber? +--- 2538782 +>>2538775 +stoked +--- 2539068 +Should I cut the cable on my picket? +--- 2539071 +>>2538362 +Five years ago, sure. But this is nu-out now. It was over as soon as /out/ gave the archery, mountaineering, and climbing threads to /xs/. +--- 2539231 +post gear +--- 2539338 +>>2539231 +How do you like those crack gloves? I'm trying to learn and the cracks out here can be grainy and quite painful. +--- 2539459 +>>2537954 +Nice work my man. Gettin real jelly of all you manage to get up to. +--- 2539499 +>>2539459 +Thanks bruh come out to Vegas and let’s climb sometime :D + +>>2539231 +I’ve got my ropes helmet and harnesses below this but I’m not letting you see the mess that is my room rn (I only clean it when babes come over, which is never) +--- 2539659 +>>2539338 +The velcro strap is kind of annoying because you have to bend the rubber up and on cold days it doesn't want to cooperate. Otherwise, really solid glove stays in place, and just feels bomber. It does make your hand bigger so some jams you might not be able to get as deep as you would gloveless , and sometimes getting chalk is a hassle. 4/5 +--- 2539661 +>>2539499 +how do you feel about finger cracks? +--- 2539671 +>>2539661 +Not too bad but sometimes not my favorite. Best is hand cracks… I imagine going to Mt. Olympus to climb 3000ft splitter hand cracks is what a climbers soul gets to enjoy when they pass on. +--- 2539682 +>>2539671 +I ask because of the lonely blue totem up there lol +--- 2540074 +>>2539071 +maybe because it's not an outdoor lifestyle thing and more sport +--- 2540075 +>>2540074 +Brainlet take +--- 2540080 +>>2540075 +could you live on a difficult inaccessible part of a mountain and do this to carry your supplies because i'd like to do that but you probably can't +--- 2540107 +Had kind of a crappy day testing out a new solo toprope setup, which is buggy, my pants were kind of thin and kept getting grabbed by the micro traxion(luckily it was the backup so I could unweight it easily). I did find a consolation prize of two well used cams so that was nice, who the hell leaves their anchors behind? + +>>2539659 +Thanks for the feedback, I have thin, bony hands and tape doesn't always cut it. +--- 2540124 +>>2540107 +>new solo toprope setup +What was the setup? pic related is what i do usually +--- 2540162 +>>2540124 +First I'm trying a single strand of rope, for the simplicity, then I'm using a roll-n-lock on the chest harness(up high like you have it) and the microtrax hanging from the waist on a short extension The greater distance between the devices makes it easier to ascend/descend with an aider but it also interferes with my legs so I'll have to keep it close like you have that black device, btw what is that? Also there were problems with the chest harness, one of which you have solved by having it straddle the micro trax like that. I'm also curious how you are wearing it, mine is awkward and yours probably is better. +--- 2540191 +>>2540162 +The lower device is just a grigri as backup and so I don't have to change devices to lower myself. The chest harness is a 120cm sling with a twist in it for each arm and then overhand knots on sides to take up slack and keep the microtrax upright. +--- 2540389 +>>2540191 +Yes I remember now from a previous post you made. I need to get a gri gri and that's a big advantage of two ropes although it looks like it adds some drag to the system. Next time out I'm going to try a single rope but with a TAZ Lov device up high which has very little drag so I can lower quickly without having to unweight anything or add something else. +Have you tried solo lead yet? That's something I'm eager to do. +--- 2540662 +>>2540389 +The grigri does add some drag, but it doesn't drag me like getting short roped would, it just doesn't feed through the device on it's own. If the route was longer I'd go single strand Y hang but it's pretty short so I just do a super 8 anchor. I'd love to try a TAZ Lov but it's pretty spendy for me to justify purchasing. I haven't tried lead solo yet but it's definitely on my radar, I got "Me, Myself & I: The dark arts of big wall soloing by Andy Kirkpatrick" to read and also a nice pdf I'm trying to link but 4chan thinks its spam +--- 2541096 +>>2540662 +Thanks for the tip on the book. I did the first test of single rope and TAZ Lov rig today on a vertical face. +My foot slipped while getting into a lieback over a small roof, totally unexpected and a free fall, it worked great and it was easy to just lower down and start again. There are some issues with it that you need to be aware of and compensate for before using it, having to do with lowering and also triggering the mechanism quickly, but overall I'm happy with it. Have fun out there. +--- 2541159 +>>2541096 +lets see if this works because outside of watching a lot of videos this is the most info about rope soloing on sport routes. + +>https://andreacalligaris.netsons.org/works/climbing-manuals +--- 2541185 +>>2541159 +Very cool, thanks! +--- 2541925 +52 is a ripe old age for a wall pirate… Rest in Power Ammon McNeely +--- 2542355 +Why is this thread so slow, even for /out/? I know what will get some responses: I baton with pic related +--- 2542361 +>>2537077 +>>2537064 +Devils Tower is one of the best crack climbing spots in the world. Climbed the Durrance Route back in 2020, shit was the tits but it gets crowded. We started before sunrise, got to watch the rising sun burn the mist off the plains around the Belle Fourche River. Sounds of the cows mooing wafting up the tower. On the way down we rapped past a guided party, two sixty year old boomers with their 20s guide. "COME ON LARRY JUST PUT YOUR FOOT UP A FOOT COME ON COME ON" with close to forty people waiting for Larry to get to the ledge so they could pass them. Glad we got there early +--- 2542364 +>>2542361 +Sounds like an amazing day. That guide probably should have given Larry some mechanical advantage +--- 2542513 +i found 2 really sick boulders accidentally while looking for a campsite, they look like the best in the area when comparing to all the ones i find online, gotta think up names for them and tell my friends :) +--- 2542659 +>>2542355 +oh look, an overpriced pocket knife +--- 2542849 +>>2542659 +What's your climbing knife of choice? +--- 2542883 +>>2542849 +I keep a mora handy for clearing brush or general debris and I keep a Kershaw on cord clipped to my harness. I am a poorfag lol +--- 2542916 +>>2542883 +>I keep a Kershaw on cord clipped to my harness +if it works it works, I do have the petzl knife but I also get prodeals so it's less expensive and use it mostly for snacks lol +--- 2542925 +>>2542659 +--- 2543576 +>>2542355 +Great knife, cuts tomatoes like a charm +--- 2543690 +>>2538069 +I've climbing more rock than you have sucked cock, i live in Font. +--- 2543839 +>>2543690 +>I've climbing more rock than you have sucked cock, i live in Font. +>/xs/ +sure lmao +--- 2543850 +>>2537037 +You fuckers shitting up the mountain sides and leaving your fucking anchors behinds should be shot +--- 2544041 +>>2543850 +Where are you hiking that you even see anchors?(I'm assuming you aren't a climber) +--- 2544047 +>>2544041 +NTA but the fact that you've never seen an anchor left behind makes me think you don't climb at all. +--- 2544061 +>>2544047 +I've seen them left behind because I do climb and usually you can't see them unless you are climbing, which is why I'm asking. It's not like the side of a mountain is easily accessible +--- 2544071 +>>2544047 +Also how does my question = I've never seen an anchor? Don't be such a fag anon. +--- 2544368 +>>2543850 +I clean up old and worn out tats I find cause that's the right thing to do +--- 2545889 +>>2542355 +One reason is because it wasn't linked in the last thread, and the name was changed to Climb General instead of Climbing General. I got lost for a while. +--- 2545913 +>>2539231 +How did u put the mount on that hlmet +--- 2545946 +How many of you train fingers? I hurt a pulley got the third time in 2 years and I can only climb v6/5.11. I'm getting this feeling like I'm doing shit wrong when my friends are doing the same and harder shit no injuries. But they "just climb" +--- 2545962 +>>2545946 +I'm stuck at that plateau and easing into 30min hangboard sessions to get past it, haven't had an injury yet knock on wood +Also you may be getting injured from projecting too often, mix in some easier endurance days and do prehab/rehab on that finger +--- 2545975 +>>2545946 +Are you fat? Maybe try being less fat +--- 2545986 +>>2545962 +Not him but what can you hang on, and how long? Are you as good on slopers as you are crimps? +--- 2546023 +>>2545986 +Idk my max, I do sets of 10 second hangs on 20 and 15mm +And slightly better on crimps +--- 2546100 +>>2545962 +Going to start hangboarding regardless to just see what happens. Plenty of injury recovery plans out there to follow. Glad to hear someone's thinking about it. + +>>2545975 +I'm 6' 170lbs +--- 2546101 +should i buy shoes even if im pretty new if i want to climb outside early? want to get more into crack climbing and my gym dosent have anything to simulate it while there are crack boulders near me outside +--- 2546125 +>>2545889 +This place is a ghost town, usually there would be a new one a day after the old thread archives but /out/ is the forgotten board of some mod +--- 2546126 +>>2545913 +cleaned with alcohol then attached the included mount. It's just glue but it's been solid. +--- 2546129 +>>2546101 +>should i buy shoes even if im pretty new if i want to climb outside early? +Yes, I learned outside then climbed at gyms, you can climb outside whenever you want. If you are bouldering I'd get a crash pad, usually someone has one they don't use and want to get rid off on offerup or FB market. +--- 2546940 +>>2545946 +Just climb. If your fingies hurt, use the rice bucket. + +Training for climbing defeats the purpose for me it's supposed to be fun. I lead 5.10 sport outside v3 boulders 5.6 trad and that's good enough for me. + +Recognize your physical limitations - the average person can climb 5.12/v7 if they train, but that's about it. If you're not genetically gifted to climb, don't bang your head against a wall. Climbing is just a farce anyway. +--- 2547081 +>>2546940 +Climbing hard is fun for me, I like to train to get stronger so I can climb harder(more fun) things. +--- 2547082 +>>2546100 +Eat a sandwich or ten, you spooky doot doot motherfucker +--- 2547157 +>>2547081 +No matter what level you're at, there's a hard climb available, so i don't see your point. +--- 2547171 +>>2547157 +>climbing is about fun +>climbing hard is fun +>no not like that + +You probably haven't reached your physical limit on climbing but seems like you've mentally stopped yourself. Of course there will always be a hard climb available, don't you see the thrill in that, that's what we train for. If you climb at a popular crag you will also note that there usually isn't a line for the 5.13 +--- 2547200 +i just jump off stuff/things +--- 2547274 +>>2545889 +You climb in Vegas often? +--- 2547365 +>>2547274 +I was there for the first time ever in January and it rained the whole time. We climbed limestone. + +I'll definitely be back. +--- 2547370 +Vegas or Reno? I was thinking about moving out for the climbing and I hear the hospitality industry has a strong union out there. +--- 2547512 +>>2547171 +Hard is just relative to your skill level. You're just ego climbing +--- 2547515 +>>2547200 +You mean you rappel off things. Dan Osman jumped off things :) +--- 2547544 +>>2547515 +>AcHktUaLLY +breh. +--- 2547801 +>battle through my severe anxiety and depression to finally do something interesting with my life +>really want to get into rock climbing +>sign up at my local climbing gym +>third day +>me walking around looking for something to climb +>cute fit girl starts eyeing me +>legit juicy butt cute face and tight body +>ignore +>keeps coming near me when I'm climbing something +>starts bouldering difficult routes in front of me while I'm sitting on the mats (I think this is normal while bouldering) +>I go drink water and she's also going to her backpack to get water and is sitting like 2 feet away from me +>I start packing up to go home and she starts stretching and doing yoga in front of me (not even 5 feet away) + +I know climbers are friendly but fuck, I just want to be alone. I doubt she likes me or something, it's just so uncomfortable having a girl of that caliber showing off her body that close to me. +--- 2547805 +absolutely godawful post anon, keep it up +--- 2547815 +>come to /out/ +>glamping threads +>climbing threads showing gear +what happened +--- 2547816 +>>2547512 +whatever makes you feel better man, just don't limit others because you've limited yourself. +--- 2547841 +>>2547801 +you should continue to post for attention here and fuck your life up more +--- 2547950 +>>2547816 +I'm not discouraging you from training, i just think it's boring as shit. If you want to grind all the time like Andrew Tate or something that's fine, but the best climber is the one having the most fun. +--- 2548272 +>>2547950 +>the best climber is the one having the most fun. + +at least we can agree on that +--- 2548281 +>>2542659 +aren't those like $40? +--- 2549091 +I want to get into canyoneering and someone told me to self teach. I have practically 0 climbing experience, only really familiar with rappelling on a rescue 8. I've got 200 feet of dynamic rope, some 1" webbing carabiners, and a couple locking carabiners. I know I need a bunch of other shit but I have no clue where to start and have no friends who climb + +Im also terrified of falling to my death by self teaching. Any tips on where to start? +--- 2549156 +Anyone going to the red in March? Going March 17-19, wonder if I’ll see any of you fuckers at Miguels +--- 2549298 +>>2549091 +>I want to get into canyoneering and someone told me to self teach. I have practically 0 climbing experience, only really familiar with rappelling on a rescue 8. I've got 200 feet of dynamic rope, some 1" webbing carabiners, and a couple locking carabiners. I know I need a bunch of other shit but I have no clue where to start and have no friends who climb + +>Im also terrified of falling to my death by self teaching. Any tips on where to start? + +Excellent life choice anon, canyoning is rad. +Where do you live? Do you want to get into Swiftwater wet canyons or dry slotty canyons? Based on you calling it 'canyoneering' I'm guessing southwest USA so dry canyons. This will determine the type of techniques and gear you need to acquire and learn, there is some crossover but also some differences. +>Dynamic rope +No +>Fig8 rapping +Yes +>Carabiners +Yes +>Webbing +Yes +Honestly anon your best move is to find a professional guide/instructor or a group of experienced competent canyoners who would be willing for you to tag along and learn from them. To not be a liability/passenger in a canyon skills/experience you will need: anchor finding and building, both natural (trees, boulders, cracks etc) and bolts (often sketchy), rope management and rappel rigging for both raising and lowering a stuck rappeller, single and double rope ascent techniques, rappelling on often very slippery surfaces, sometimes directly in the flow of powerful waterfalls, whitewater swimming techniques, jumping + sliding in to water from 5m+ heights, climbing to reach anchors with minimal protection and lots of exposure, downclimbing with consequential falls, off track navigation. It's very much a team sport so learning by yourself will be tricky and limiting. +All that said though, the combination of all of those skills/requirements means it's a rad sport and extremely fun. +I rappelled this 75m waterfall recently. The fall line goes right though the main flow. It was super intense and awesome. +--- 2549299 +>>2549091 +>>2549298 +t. NZ canyoner, got into the sport from climbing/hiking/whitewater kayak background +--- 2549303 +>>2549299 +Another pic from most recent trip +--- 2549326 +>>2549298 +I'm in Tucson, AZ. Tho I'm moving to Phoenix in a few months when I graduate. + +Is dynamic really that bad? I've been told and understand that static is better if you're primarily rapping though everything I find online says dynamic is fine. What should I do with this rope if not? It's brand new never been used Sterling 9.8mm. Admittedly, my dad brought all this shit out last year for a camping trip to Southern Utah as a "just in case" and just left it all with me. But I'm not gonna complain too much about free rope, could I find a local place to possibly trade it for some shit/static I need? + +Not really looking for a whole lot of swimming yet, though I'm fine with wading as long as I can mostly touch the bottom. We hiked Golden Cathedral last year and my bucket list is to do Neon Canyon for the final rappel through the roof + +We've got a climbing gym here in town and I want to ask them for direction for finding canyoneering people, but I feel like they're just gonna sell me a membership and then never point me in the right direction/introduce me to people. Literally the only experience I have is rapping on rescue 8s when I got a crash course in it as a firefighter over a decade ago, but I've seen enough YouTube videos to confidently kill myself. + +I'll probably pay the $250 for the half day guided trip just so I can meet someone who also does it +--- 2549360 +>>2549326 +Cool. You can rap on a dynamic rope but all the bouncing when rapping sucks and if you're in a soft rock canyon it will rapidly cut grooves into the rock and will also wear though the sheath which then ruins the rope. Pulling down a dynamic rope from a big pitch also sucks especially if it's a hard pull down or there are lots of potential snags. All your effort just goes to stretching the rope instead of actually getting it down. + +Check out www.canyoncollective.com they have a decent forum on there with mostly SW USA based canyoneers. There are lots of grumpy old men but they know their shit and you may find someone willing to let you tag along on a trip. You'll need a harness, double cowstail lanyard, several carabiners and rappel device, helmet, sturdy backpack as a minimum to join a group on a trip. There are bound to be Facebook canyoneer groups too which you can probably find a group willing to let you join a trip. +--- 2549617 +>>2549091 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejAH0rHwB34 [Embed] + +Wouldn't be a bad start as far as gear goes, maybe see if a local climbing club has a canyon course. Climbing gyms also have bulletin boards you can check out and FB as well. Static ropes are like a third the price of dynamic ropes, the one you have sounds really good tho I'd hold onto it and try to get into climbing as well, a lot of the same skills overlap between the two +--- 2549703 +Weather has been so fucking ass here in Vegas but it’s clearing up. Gonna hit up winter heat wall to do “Couldn’t be Schmooter” and “High Class Ho.” Tomorrow I’m taking a buddy up Jackass Flats and hopefully Diet Delight, too. Excited to get back out there, need to give snowboarding a few days break haha. Hope y’all have been sending. +--- 2549706 +>>2547370 +Vegas is infinitely better than Reno except for the proximity to Tahoe, truckee and donner. Besides that, Reno is a shithole that reminds me of jail. +--- 2549888 +>>2549360 +>>2549326 +learn how to rotate ur images +--- 2549923 +>>2538290 +I've walked and scrambled up plenty of mountains but nothing near me really requires any technical skill to climb, I'd like to do some proper mountaineering but I'd need to travel abroad for it. +--- 2550088 +>>2549923 +do your mountains have snow? +--- 2550159 +>>2550088 +Only in winter, none of them are very high up. +--- 2550395 +>>2549888 +it was rotated when I looked at it before posting ;_; +Here's a different trip where we were practice rigging a Tyrolean traverse +--- 2551030 +>>2550395 +>practice rigging a Tyrolean traverse +Any good info on how to rig one? i've tried looking them up and just see people using them but not rigging them. pic related is what I'd like to do in order to avoid the hike lol +--- 2551060 +>>2551030 +Anon, I think you'll still need someone to make the hike to the other side first +--- 2551576 +>>2551060 +I mean on the descent after topping out. Now any suggestions? +--- 2551690 +>>2547370 +>Reno +>indoor climbing gyms + +>Las Vegas +>world famous climbing twenty minutes north of the city + +It's a difficult choice. +--- 2552030 +>>2551690 +but isn't reno cheaper to live? +--- 2552073 +>>2552030 +>>2547370 +If you wanna live in NV live in Vegas it's the only non-shithole in that entire blasted state +--- 2552076 +>>2549706 +To say Vegas is a slightly better shithole is more accurate. But if variety in your climbing is a goal, Reno hands down. >Year round climbing that’s not a million degrees. +>Yosemite to Tahoe (Eastside, Cal Domes, North/South Lake, High Sierra in between) all within 3 hours. +Not a hard decision. +--- 2552224 +Do any of you guys do rope access work? I was thinking about getting qualified since it seems like a decent excuse to work outdoors and travel on the job. +--- 2552473 +>>2549303 +just walk up the side you fucking retard +--- 2552474 +>>2549703 +faggots like you who bring their poor dogs up to places like this unironically need to get killed. kill yourself manlet/twink. +--- 2552476 +At first, when I started doing some indoor climbing in college at the rec center to work on forearm strength/hit on the weird sluts there, I didn't understand why it is full of weird little turbo manlets and extreme lanklets. But then I realized it is one of the "sports" designed just for you and your unfortunate bodies. Keep acting like weirdos you autistic fuckers +--- 2552493 +>>2552476 +lmao anybody can climb there is no limiting factor except whatever limits you put on yourself. nice cope tho +--- 2552495 +>>2551030 +Canyon rigging for a Tyrolean may different to climbing because we always have to be able to retrieve from the bottom. Basically though - first person raps normally and finds bottom anchor point. Seconder then block the rope at halfway against the anchor ring at the top of the pitch with a clove hitched biner or similar. Bottom rigger then tensions up with a figure 8 in self locking mode and a 3:1 on the tail with ascender/tibloc as rope grab. Then seconder + others can slide down the taut line on a biner or pulley with the loose side of the rope running through their belay device to control speed. Once everyone is down the pitch, release tension on the locked figure 8 and remove from rope. Then pull down the other loose rope end which was blocked against th anchor. You should have all your gear at the base of the pitch ready to move to the next. Hopefully that made sense I don't have any detailed pics or vids of rigging one up +--- 2552508 +>>2552495 +>Bottom rigger then tensions up with a figure 8 in self locking mode and a 3:1 on the tail with ascender/tibloc as rope grab +It all makes sense I just set up a little mock up in my room except what is the rope grab attached to that's on the tail. + +I'd like to do it to get from one side to another at the same height. In climbing there would probably be bolts and rings I could thread the rope through so I wouldn't need a biner block, but I would need to have one side anchored in and then figure out how to tension the rope. +--- 2552892 +Anyone here familiar with climbing in Kentucky? How is Red River gorge? +--- 2553087 +>>2552474 +There’s a ramp literally to the right that bypasses the entire first pitch lol. The dog walked up it and I clipped him to some ancient chains on a ledge. Sorry my 5.dog buddy climbs harder than you +--- 2553132 +I need to buy gear for outdoor climbing, tired of having to bum off of friends. What rope to buy? I want to do mostly single pitch, but also some multi pitch and mountaineering with glacier crossings. Can one rope do it all, or do I have to drop half a salary on 3 different ropes? I was hoping I could buy something like a 9.5mm 70m single rope and call it a day. Thoughts? +--- 2553180 +>>2553132 +>9.5mm 70m single rope +Get it dry treated and you're good to go. Might get a little cumbersome on mountaineering trips but otherwise solid choice. +--- 2553275 +>>2552892 +It's the best sport climbing area in the entire United States +--- 2553289 +Anyone else here exclusively use chains? +--- 2553516 +>>2553180 +Yeah that's what I was thinking. Probably suboptimal for some applications but fuck buying 15 different ropes +--- 2553656 +>>2539231 +--- 2553660 +Heading to S AZ to try to catch the last of the cool weather. Better late than never. Hopefully find some nice walls before it gets too warm +--- 2553662 +>>2553132 +you will hate yourself bringing a huge rope like that for glacier travel +--- 2553681 +Can I climb by myself with a rope? I want to start climbing but I'm too autistic to socialize and would like to climb by myself. Is it possible? I don't want to climb completely ropeless, I want to still be able to use my gear, but just not have someone with me. Is it possible, bros? +--- 2553766 +So, Bosi has gotten a head start on the illusive finnish autism test piece. Who will be next to join the struggle? +--- 2553790 +>>2553766 +Hard to imagine anyone else with the self-hatred to get on this miserable rock. I think he's been working the indoor replica with Stefano Ghisolfi though. + +>>2553681 +If you don't know the answer, then No. +--- 2553832 +>>2553790 +Yeah, Aidan Roberts probably scanned the holds just to satisfy his board climbing fetish I'm sure. +--- 2553848 +>>2553662 +what's your typical glacier travel rope? +--- 2554022 +>>2553848 +I use a 50m beal opera, even that is kinda overkill. A lot of people will just use a 30m rope. +--- 2554120 +>>2553766 +Every day we stray further from nalles light +--- 2554129 +>>2553766 +Pebble wrestling autism never ceases to amaze +--- 2554168 +>>2554120 +Amen, brother. Dark times. Next step is to build a large tent/light warehouse around a boulder to negate weather. +--- 2554183 +>>2554168 +Haha, yeah... +--- 2554202 +>>2553681 +So you haven't started climbing yet but want to jump into the most niche and complicated style of climbing? Just go boulder if you want to climb alone +--- 2555829 +bump +--- 2555870 +>>2552493 +>manlets and lanklets +>posts the ultimate lanklet +She cut mass on her legs for extra reach. +--- 2555884 +>>2555870 +>ultimate lanklet +That would be KD + +Just because you are shaped like a fridge doesn't mean you can't climb, nice cope tho +--- 2555887 +any other tower dogs? +--- 2556136 +>>2555884 +Guy in your pic is cancer I hope that's not you +--- 2556180 +>>2555884 +>>2556136 + +A better role model for the more stout among us would be John Dunne, the fat crusher. Watch Hard Grit if you haven’t, it’s great. +--- 2556230 +>>2556050 +If you do them in the summer, they are all just hikes, nothing above class 4. +--- 2556522 +>>2556180 +>>2556136 +Point is anyone can climb. The original anon probably thinks the only reason he can't climb the nose is because he isn't as small as Lynn Hill or he his pointer finger is weighing him down +--- 2556561 +>>2549156 +No I'm going at the end of may. How was it? +--- 2557056 +There's so little interest in the rock itself from rockclimbers. +There's still no good reason explaining the reason for the different features on different rock types, or within the same rocktype (e.g. why's sandstone in tennessee so different from the one in font?), etc. +Sure, I don't expect pros to be interested in anything other than pulling hard (and solar panels) but with the amount of nerds into the sport, I'd think we'd have a fair amount of resources on the subject. +--- 2557068 +>>2557056 +Yeah, everytime I start nerding about rock types and rock quality I can see the fellow climbers get that glazed look like they are somewhere else. I fucking love that shit, it's so facinating what mother nature has created through rather violent means. +--- 2557453 +anyone have experience climbing in serbia, specifically around belgrade? thinking of taking a contract to work there this summer. gym recs would be good too looks like they got a couple nice ones in the city +--- 2557601 +Any of you spergs from Boulder? Headed out there in a week or so and want to know what's good and if it will be covered in fucking snow or not. +--- 2557610 +should I try Burden of Dreams? +I'm pretty autistic, and pretty sure I'm better than any britbong out there. +--- 2557671 +>>2557056 +The differences in granite all throughout California is fascinating. Yosemite and shuteye are right next to each other and one is all cracks and slab and the other is these huge patina plates. Same with Mt woodson granite vs black mountain in so Cal. I would love to read about why but can't find resources +--- 2557692 +>>2553656 +Love those giant cams. What am I looking at here, some kind of funky belay device? +--- 2557698 +>>2557692 +forgot the pic related +--- 2557714 +buying rope for my first outdoor climbs (TR) + +what length/width should I get? +--- 2557719 +Anyone climbed at vedauwoo in WY before? Any decent top rope routes to recommend? +--- 2557722 +Remember when mountainproject was cool? Burchey was a funny motherfucker. +--- 2557751 +>>2557692 +I'm climbing new routes in Cochise. There is a green cinch in that stash +--- 2557753 +>>2557722 +MP was never cool. RC.com used to be +--- 2557784 +>>2537031 (OP) +When I see chalk on rock I take out my hammer and go to work +There's nothing you can do to stop me you Filthy city dwellers shitting up my rural mountains with pot head dirtbags and yuppie liberals. +--- 2557800 +>>2557753 +Some of the megathreads on Supertopo were quite entertaining. Valley climbers would throw blows over the removal/replacement of a rusty 1/4" expansion bolt, or yo-yoing, or using a stick clip on aid routes. +--- 2557930 +>>2557056 +There’s plenty of geology in the old school resources. I even became a geologist (graduate this semester!) because of climbing. One of my old professors was a valley rat in the 70s too. A lot of folks are just there because it’s the hip new way to be outdoors. Some people genuinely just don’t care, and are in it for the upvotes or something. Oh well, more rock for me to ponder on. +--- 2558249 +>>2557784 +I've lately seens this retarded trolling multiple times in different places. Either it's one autist looking for attention or some group of losers think they are edgy. +--- 2558283 +>>2558249 +edginess aside his point is valid, climbers have become consoomers +--- 2558428 +>>2557930 +What's your favorite rock type and why? +--- 2558576 +>>2555887 +Fuck yeah + +Georgia Southern Cross in Atl and another out of Lincoln, Nebraska called Capital Tower. + +Fucking love to paint them ...... big mitten in one hand, Petzl Stop in the other on the handle brake....3 gal on my hip..... + +Nothing beats that job in the world....Builds are fun and simple....antenna mounts are a bitch to lift to the apex of a Self-Supported Tower, but rigging coax is certainly a beastly gig. + +You know this is the best employment ever for a climber....beats any ground work around. + +My first test climb was over 1000' on the top of the steel of the Nations Bank building in Atl.....the biggest building in the Southeast. + +Got to hit the ladder up to the gold flake covered lightning rod pillar on top....fucking amazing job but they get some pretty awnry guys on the gigs sometimes.... + +Those companies I worked for before the regulations got too stiff and climbing harnesses were thrown out for the shitty cant-self-rescue-full body harnesses that leave you dangling like an idiot if you lose your footing.... + +One slip and they have to call in a rescue team....we all agreed to throw them out for Petzl Navajos and Black Diamond Bod harnesses. + +There were a ton of climbers with us but also road dogs that were just fearless and after high paying work...can't blame them. + +Watching 250 lb guys try to ladder all day was kinda funny as I was in at 180 max. +--- 2558729 +>>2558576 +Based retard +--- 2558868 +>>2558283 +What you said and what >>2557784 +anon said don't connect at all, get some reading comprehension +--- 2559066 +>>2557453 +Central Serbia is not the best location for climbing, but surprisingly, there are a few "crags" inside Belgrade +https://serbianclimbing.com/penjalista/prirodna/ +--- 2559097 +>tfw no "ALLEZ AMORE!!" +--- 2559325 +>>2558428 +Probably sandstone at this point. It’s what I mostly climb on and it holds a lot of data in regards to zircons, dating, sedimentation rates, etc. The structures it makes are beautiful too. Love a good desert tower or big wall. I do love some good alpine granite though, that shit is just plain badass. +--- 2559384 +>>2540124 +>>2541159 +thanks for the info. is it necessary to use the Micro Traxion, or will any simple pulley do? if i understood correctly the purpose is to manage rope slack only +--- 2559557 +>>2559384 +>is it necessary to use the Micro Traxion, or will any simple pulley do? if i understood correctly the purpose is to manage rope slack only + +It's purpose is to capture your progress as you climb. Its a one way entrance for the rope so if you were to fall it'd be the same as falling on TR. You wouldn't want to use a simple pulley because it won't stop the rope from flying through the device. I like the micro traxion because it's familiar but any progress capture pulley/ascender would work. I've heard good stuff about the Roll n Lock from CT and the Taz LOV2 +--- 2559558 +>>2537954 +I was interested in picking up the hobby but do crackers turn into niggas after they start climbin' ? +--- 2559800 +is 27crags worth it? +Was looking for a topo of Alcaniz and got scammed into buying "boulder en espana", which only has a shitty 4 page overview of the area and also it's all in spanish... +--- 2560126 +>>2559800 +It's very convenient but I live in Finland. 27crags is a finnish company and started here so it covers most of the stuff you'll find here. The general atmosphere towards accuracy also means you don't have to second-guess when you get to the crag. +--- 2560742 +i really hate that my local climbing club paints the topo locations on the rock itself, i dont see the point when they release the topos for free online for most crags too +--- 2560744 +>>2560706 +where's the tarp? +--- 2560902 +>>2560744 +Hope somebody cleaned that shit away. Usually when you run into tarp contraption in a forest there's a drunken hobo around somewhere. +--- 2560958 +>>2553681 +bouldering then free solo +--- 2561489 +Anyone know where I can watch Hard Grit (1998)? or should i just buy the DVD? +--- 2561737 +>>2550395 +4chan removes exif data on posting, which includes the rotation data. rotate, then crop. +>>2553660 +west Cochise Stronghold seems to be the go-to for out-of-towners but Mt. Lemmon has year round climbing. +--- 2562727 +>10 mins by bike to good crag +>10 mins by bike to climbing gym +Nice. crag has very short walls though, 10-15m but good routes and cracks +--- 2564449 +anyone projecting anything fun this spring? it wont stop snowing here +--- 2564887 +are there any alternatives to thecrag.com that don't require you to login? and that let you download the pictures and routes +--- 2564958 +>>2538313 +>n-no! Its a promise! +[Autistic reeeeing] +--- 2565203 +>>2557714 +60m 9.6-10mm +--- 2565228 +>>2564449 +Nothing. It won't stop raining here +--- 2565348 +Are there brands of rock climbing shoe to avoid? +--- 2565448 +Having trouble with skin. Using antihydral seems to just build up an additional layer over the top instead of actually thickening it? Any tips? + +>>2564887 +mountain project? +--- 2565526 +I can just go to a climbing gym and start with bouldering right? I don't need any training until I do shit with belays or whatever right? +--- 2565534 +>>2565526 +yup simple as that. If by training you mean like learning how to use the belay devices/rope than yeah you don't need to know that for bouldering. +--- 2565696 +>>2565448 +>mountain project? +thanks i like that site much better, but apparently nobody uses it in my country, it has very few routes. i think i will spend some money on a book +--- 2566206 +>>2565696 +>i think i will spend some money on a book +yeah thats much better than buying a subscription for topos like 27crags since it supports the guys that maintain the crags too +--- 2566255 +next piece of gear i want to buy is thin rope (don't know the name in english), the kind you use to make prusiks or machards. my understanding is that it's supposed to be thin but not very much, at least 6mm, is this correct? + +should this kind of rope be static, or dynamic? i hear that people also use it in mountaneering, but i it only for rappel? if so it should be static, right? any info about all of this in general would be helpful +--- 2566280 +>>2566255 +Here it's called cordelette or accessory cord +For friction hitches it should be ~3mm smaller diameter than the climbing rope +7mm is most common and can also be used for anchors or whatever you want really +Usually sold by the foot or 30ft lengths in the US, not sure how you guys do it in metric lol +--- 2566281 +>>2566255 +Some 6mm cord should do you just fine for this purpose, I use this one and it’s fine for anchors, PAS and prussik +--- 2567242 +Making some heavy moves towards going outdoors with my climbs, primarily top rope on natural and bolt anchors. I'll be out at Joshua Tree in a few weeks so looking to shore up gaps in knowledge before then. + +I have a question about setting up a quad on bolts for TR. Is a single bowline + runner + stopper knot sufficient to safely approach the bolts and continue with set-up? I've anchored into the single bowline when the second anchor point wasn't in within a safe distance and to the double bowline when they were safely away from the cliff (both for setting up natural anchors) but I imagine the bolts could vary in accessibility. Should I play it safe and just do two anchor points and hook into the double bowline just for safety? If it's not clear, this is all in reference to safely approaching bolts to set up a quad for TR. +--- 2567269 +3 years of autobelay and top rope falls has caused some fraying on my harnesses waist strap +Should I worry yet? +--- 2567356 +>>2567242 +J Tree is gonna be hot as FUCK and I have no idea what you are talking about. Just do pic related if you’re gonna do a quad. For TR set ups I would just make a normal overhand as your master point, throw a locker or 2 in and go. Can you maybe use English or draw me a picture? I can help you further if I understand just what the fuck you’re saying. + +Also: http://multipitchclimbing.com/ +--- 2567366 +>>2567242 +I haven't been but j tree is a bad place to do what you described, as there aren't many natural features on the top outs +Here's a pic of where they recommend beginners go, and idk what you would tie off to unless you build an anchor with cams +Maybe crawl on your stomach or pay someone a couple bucks to set it up for you +--- 2567367 +>>2567269 +You should get a new one soon. I was in the same place about 6 months back and the belay loop gave out almost entirely when I took a fall on autobelay. If it’s been three years you’ve probably gotten your money’s worth easy +--- 2567368 +>>2567356 + +Alright, let me put it more simply. I've never set up a quad before for TR, only natural anchors. You can tether into your anchors as you set up so you can safely approach the edge and send down your rope. where do you tether for setting up a quad? Where are those bolts typically located? Over the edge? Right at the top? How do I safely approach? + +also is pic related fine for a quad? +--- 2567383 +>>2567368 +Most people scoot or crawl to the bolts with no tether +They are usually in a relatively safe spot if they were bolted with top roping in mind which you will have to research and find out which ones are beforehand +You pic is fine and you should connect the ends with a double fisherman's knot +--- 2567420 +>>2567368 +Just slap your PAS into the bolt hanger and put your anchor on the bolt. Connect the bolts. Connect a sling to you and then to the anchor. Move the PAS (if you want). Continue setting up the anchor. +--- 2567432 +>>2567368 +Sometimes the bolts aren't set up for TR and in that case you'll have to either down climb with a belay, be lowered, or rap to the bolts. If this is the case you'll most likely find rings or quick links on the bolts; try like hell not to TR on these. Use leaver biners instead of a quad if you think it'll be a major hassle to get to the anchor, i.e., nobody in your party can do the climb and you don't have the time to climb around to the top and repeat the down climb/lowering/rap process. Or just use a shit ton of webbing or another rope to extend a natural anchor over the edge. +--- 2567440 +>>2567368 +>also is pic related fine for a quad? +it is but it's also cumbersome, a 240cm sling like >>2567356 is easier to deploy +--- 2567462 +>>2567368 +just rap off a natural anchor (tree, BIG rock) to the real anchor, clip your PAS to the anchor, then proceed to build your quad/whatever and put your rope trough it. + +Let Bob tell you more: +https://youtu.be/uskPB6m6ybU [Embed] +--- 2567514 +Climbing? +--- 2567515 +>>2567514 +Climbing! +--- 2567591 +He sent it boyos +--- 2567592 +>>2567462 +>>2567440 +>>2567432 +>>2567420 +>>2567383 + +thank you based anons if I am alive I'll post photos +--- 2567648 +>>2554120 +Elaborate. +--- 2567657 +>>2567648 +Nalle sent it the ol fashioned way +Will sent it after training on a 3d scanned indoor replica rigged to a weighted pulley system +Brings up arguments about the autistic deconstruction of the sending process +"If he flashed it irl would it have been a flash?" Etc +--- 2567721 +>>2567592 +one more thing -- most joshua tree routes don't have bolted anchors, and a lot of the ones that do don't have a safe way to set up a TR. research the shit out of the routes you plan to do +--- 2567844 +>>2567657 +The autismal process strays far from pure climbing in my 5.11 climber opinion hah. It's like these guys are about media appeal more than wanting to climb. +--- 2567951 +>>2567657 +To be fair, Nalle did replica training during bad weather/off-season but he just used generic climbing holds. + +Gratz to Will, that crazy scotish bastard. +--- 2568160 +Very autistic question +But how do you meet climbing friends? Someone told me it's pretty easy to find people at a climbing gym, but how do you generally approach that kinda thing without coming across as a weirdo? +I can't really go trad climbing without a partner to belay, right? +--- 2568284 +>>2567844 +>about media appeal more than wanting to climb. +They probably climb more than you. Besides, can you blame them? They have responsibilities to sponsors regarding the media appeal. Its the age we live in. Its the only way for them to do this full time. Not even the competitions pay as well as.they used to 10-15 years ago. +>>2567657 +Replicas have been a thing for decades. What? Its a crime to train now? Every craft or elite activity involves practice. Regardless of the sport, deconstructing things to make it easier, simpler and efficient improves performance. You make no sense. +--- 2568543 +>>2568160 +try talking about a boulder when you see someone doing it, or when you are doing one and you see somebody looking at you doing it. like "dayum that starting position is weird as fuck" or "hey do you think you are supposed to skip that hold over there" or whatever that makes sense. then you try to keep a conversation going. + +if you have problems talking with people in general, it will also be difficult meeting climbing friends at the gym, and the other way around diff --git a/out/2538630.txt b/out/2538630.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f95cb80a2e73a3d13c90be765c721e36031818ce --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2538630.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1182 @@ +----- +--- 2538630 +Does anyone use an Inreach? are the subscriptions worth it? Tell me about the times you have gotten lost anon. +--- 2538632 +i have one, they are worth it for peace of mind. the only problem is i live in the PNW and heavy tree cover completely kills it. + +it also makes poorfags around here seethe thinking their 25 dollar baofeng will save them when they break their leg on a solo hike +--- 2538633 +>>2538630 (OP) +Defend this, LARP anons. +--- 2538634 +FYI I hike solo in mountainous areas that I am unfamiliar with so I have been heavily debating getting one. +--- 2538640 +>>2538632 +Which subscription do you use? Did you get any of the map packs/are they useful? +--- 2538697 +>>2538640 +i bought a inreach mini, its not really a GPS. just use the basic plan. tethering it to your phone lets you quickly type messages/SOS and check weather which is all i need. I just use my phone as a GPS. unless you spend a ton of money(+700 dollars plus) the GPS ability on these devices is fucking terrible. The unit in the OP photo legitimately had the worst feature set id ever seen, i believe its been discontinued now but it didnt even have topography or trail maps. it just had basic outline of the geography and water so it was basically useless. + +the only real downside of this is that your phone consumes battery at a much higher rate than these dedicated GPS handhelds but i carry multiple 18650s since my headlamp also uses that same battery. +--- 2538699 +>>2538630 (OP) +why would u use these anymore? phones ipads etc can do it just fine +--- 2538702 +>>2538697 +>it didnt even have topography or trail maps. it just had basic outline of the geography and water so it was basically useless. +Very helpful, thank you. Maybe I'll get the mini and try to find a good separate GPS device with trail maps then. +--- 2538705 +>>2538630 (OP) + The iPhone 14 comes with a data plan that includes PLB functionality for a year or two, then you have to pay for it as an added feature or something. So I guess all of the newest phones will have it soon, or already do, and PLB’s will probably die out. +--- 2538710 +>>2538699 +It’s a personal locator beacon, Anon. It’s not just a GPS. These have basic satellite communication, not just reception. They can send a message if you’re lost or injured. That message is received by a service and relayed to the appropriate officials who can launch a search or whatever. +--- 2538712 +>>2538699 +I want map functionality in places with no cell service +--- 2538714 +>>2538702 +a phone will totallly mog every single GPS made nowadays, they are horribly behind the times with tech. They have terrible laggy interfaces. The only upside is if you need to access the device with gloves since tend to focus on physical button navigation. + +>>2538705 +there is caveats to the iphone SOS system, it cant be used for texting and weather updates like garmin products but if youre in the market for a new phone its probably a good way to get 2 birds with one stone. + +>>2538712 +unless you are a 80 IQ idiot using google maps for navigation then this is not an issue. any good GPS software for a cellphone is going to have the ability to store maps on the device. I keep the entire of north america maps on my phone+any layers i need on my phone. It chews up a couple gigs of storage on my phone but whatever. +--- 2538718 +>>2538714 +Kek, fair enough. I find it desirable to know my location on trails with satellites but it's too bad that these devices are so far behind (and at their current pricepoint). +--- 2538724 +I made the OP pic for fun and I just found pic rel on youtube +--- 2538726 +>>2538724 +That's not this same guy is it? +--- 2538727 +>>2538630 (OP) +I dont usually bring it but I have a long battery life android phone with OsmAnd+ GaiaGPS and AllTrails for finding cool places to go and getting my bearings. OsmAnd is great because you can download entire states offline and it shows trails, forest service roads, power lines, etc plus you can pre-map your routes pretty easily. Would recommend. +--- 2538728 +>>2538718 +your cellphone is receiving your location via satellites too. every single cellphone has a GPS receiver in it. It can do tracking just fine with zero signal +--- 2538730 +>>2538726 +Nope, different one. This one is "Justin Outdoors - Gear Priority" +--- 2538731 +>>2538727 +Thank you for the suggestions! +>>2538728 +Maybe I need a better phone but on my last long trip my phone was not helpful at all tracking. +--- 2538734 +>>2538633 +I can defend part of it. She's trying to find her way without relying on the GPS, which is slightly based. People these days have largely lost the brain-muscles we once used to navigate and reckon. They've just atrophied. +--- 2538735 +>>2538714 +>it can’t be used for texting +Are you sure? I’m not much of a consumer so I don’t know the ins and outs. +--- 2538739 +>>2538735 +You can text emergency services but noone else. I dont need to call service and rescue very often.its far more important to be able to send messages to my loved ones that im ok every night during overnight trips or be able to get a relative to send a tow truck out to an area if truck breaks down in the middle of nowhere +--- 2538740 +>>2538630 (OP) +I had one, I would later sell it. +I got tired of people texting my InReach asking me to check in. I realize now that I don't want to be "In reach". +--- 2538773 +>>2538731 +it's because you're retarded +--- 2538790 +I carry an emergency beacon because if something goes wrong it dramatically reduces my chances of dying. +--- 2538836 +>>2538630 (OP) +I haven’t used one of these, but contemplated getting one after my phone refused to take charge the other day because it was too cold. It had been in a pocket of a down puffy, very occasionally being removed to look at the map. + +I assume that at least one of these things doesn’t use an li-ion battery, and could save me from having to deal with that shit again. +--- 2538861 +>>2538714 +>The only upside is if you need to access the device with gloves since tend to focus on physical button navigation. +This is one of the main reasons I bought a Garmin.Touchscreens are pain in the ass. +--- 2538863 +>>2538861 +Also the display is great because you don't need backlight to see it. +--- 2538865 +I want a watch with a barometer, altimeter and gps. +--- 2538878 +>>2538630 (OP) +I always have a handheld GPS and a PLB when I'm /out/. I will sometimes bring an inReach to stay in touch with friends and family. +Whenever I'm hunting (or going /out/ at all), I have five rules: +Safety, safety, safety, safety, safety. + +Shamelessly borrowed from Jim Shockey, but that doesn't change the validity of the sentiment. Being prepared never hurt anybody, lack of preparedness certainly has. You have to ask yourself what you what is more important: +Being called a wimp on the internet by some rando who probably never goes /out/, or not ending up dead in the wilderness because something happened and you had no way to call for help. For me, the latter is far more important. +That doesn't mean living in fear or never taking risks. Just don't talk yourself out of taking logical safety precautions either due to peer pressure or money. +>>2538699 +>>2538714 +1. GPS units are significantly more durable than phones. They are better at standing up to impacts and have much better weather resistance. +2. The battery lasts longer; and if you use a unit that takes removable batteries, you can easily replace them. +3. They have more features for navigation. +4. Not everywhere has mobile phone reception. +--- 2538919 +>>2538878 +>durability and waterproof was +This could be a concern, but it’s never been an issue for me. I hiked all of the Pinhoti and roughly 3/4 of the Florida trail with an iPhone 7 (back before all of the smartphones were waterproof to some degree). +>battery life +If you’re going for an ultralight base weight or are just weight conscious this is definitely a concern. If you’re taking both a phone and a GPS, then you’re obviously not too concerned with weight. +>more features +Like what? Phone apps are as feature-heavy as the designers want them to be. I find that most have too many features. +>muh mobile phone reception +And just like that your entire opinion is discarded. +--- 2539105 +>>2538878 +This +--- 2539115 +>>2538705 +>The iPhone 14 comes with a data plan that includes PLB functionality for a year or two*** + +***only for use in America + +I was kind of thinking about getting the iGoy until I read about that, what the fuck is the point if your beacon doesn't work the instant you leave the country? Retard shit. +--- 2540675 +>>2538632 +>the only problem is i live in the PNW and heavy tree cover completely kills it. + +I haven't found this to be the case at all in the north cascades even in rain and heavy cloud cover... do you mean it kills the gps and text, or just live voice calls? + +Only ever bother with gps and text, maybe latency would fuck up audio. + +Or are you in like the Hoh forest or somewhere even denser? +--- 2540710 +>>2538633 +I remember reading this post, I now keep my gps device in a zippered pocket of my pack which actually delays the time it takes to send and receive messages (yes, i've tested it and it is actually slower to having it clipped to your strap); and, while that's not really a major problem when you're /out/ing it in familiar woods, it does pose a threat when out on multi-day ventures or unfamiliar terrain where sending a message within minutes as opposed to after 10-20 minutes, where whomever you're messaging could look away, become distracted, leave their phone, and end up seeing your cry for help many minutes/hours later. +tl;dr I don't give a shit if I or you or anybody has their gps device hooked to the outside of their pack/person, it's probably the best practice for preserving their life despite any appeals to the contrary. +--- 2540766 +>>2538878 +Listen to this anon, OP +--- 2540855 +>>2539105 +>>2540766 +>4. Not everywhere has mobile phone reception. +Why is this still a talking point in current year? We’ve known since the first generation of smartphones (that’s what, 15 years?) that you don’t need a cell signal to use GPS feature. +--- 2540872 +>>2540855 +Let me know how that works out for you. +--- 2541016 +>>2540872 +I’m really not sure what you’re implying. Are you saying you need a signal from a cellphone tower to use GPS navigation on a smartphone? Use your words. + +Inb4 smartphones bad because other reason. +--- 2541047 +>>2541016 +NTA, but a phone GPS isn't nearly as reliable as a dedicated GPS unit. +--- 2541078 +>>2541047 +Really? Post hardware specs. +--- 2541081 +>>2541047 +>>2541078 +Also, the point (#4) wasn’t “it’s not reliable because reasons that I can’t or won’t give.” It was that you need cell reception. +--- 2541128 +My phone GPS doesn't work at points in the mountains, would a dedicated GPS work? I want something I can rely on, plus I'll get a PBL as well +--- 2541150 +>>2541128 +A purpose-built handheld GPS should work anywhere if you are in the open. You shouldn't have any issues in the mountains or alpine country with a dedicated GPS. +--- 2541153 +>>2541128 +Nope +--- 2541155 +>>2541128 +Assuming its the same satellites I'm not sure what the difference would be except maybe better receiver antenna? +If there's terrain occlusion then no tech is going to help that. The device is basically watching a few flickering lights in the sky. +--- 2541206 +Attention retards! You can plug an antenna into a cellphone! +--- 2541207 +>>2541206 +You mean the antennas which leech signal from everyone around you? Is that what you mean? Because you do not need a GPS antenna so what are you referring to? +--- 2541210 +>>2541207 +>You mean the antennas which leech signal from everyone around you? +...no? Do you not know what an antenna is? + +Many anons have expressed that phones have poor gps reception when not in range of supplementary signal sources. +The solution is an antenna. +--- 2541569 +>>2541078 +>>2541081 +IEEE tested this. The conclusion is cellphone GPS reliability varies greatly even between the same phones. + +https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7876317 + +GPS accuracy isn't tested on cellphones before they ship--they just run a hardware test. + +The real test: if you need anything other than a grid location from a GPS you lack the basic skillsets required to navigate and shouldn't leave trails or roads. +--- 2541596 +>>2541569 +So do you need cell reception or not? + +>accuracy +So it’s 15m instead of 3m? +--- 2541685 +>>2538630 (OP) +Yes. But I always bring and use a map. Main reason why I bring one is so I can explorer places without having to worry about getting completely lost and wandering for too long. +--- 2541694 +>>2539115 +It is launched in way more countries now +--- 2541756 +>>2541596 +Useeless for route finding on the mountain. +--- 2541869 +>>2541756 +Then so is a handheld GPS, seeing as how they both use identical hardware and satellite arrays. +--- 2541873 +>>2541569 +>last paragraph +Thank you. Too many people have zero orientation skills. Like what is a compass tier rookies and they won't even try to learn. +I've tried sherpaing this sort before and they just ignore me and check their amazing GPS app they're fond of, because why not come 5hrs to be with nature so you can play with your phone half the time. +I can pinpoint within 5m spots on others' trip videos remotely without compass readings, assuming there's landmarks obv. Its a fun game if you're bored. I could teach a lot, but rarely does anyone care yo learn. Depressing a tad. +I will use GPS on the rare instance I'm turned around in thick featureless woods, thats about it, or to double check a trail junction in same. +--- 2541883 +>>2538630 (OP) +It honestly depends our teams carry them for emergencies and they work well but we struggled using them in DRC. Too much tree cover. +You can also use them to track patrols which is nice +--- 2543080 +>>2538630 (OP) +i buy a used inreach, subscribe, then sell the device after for thru hikes +and i use a normal PLB with no subscription fucking about the backcountry at home + +>>2538714 +2 simple reasons why this advice is bad GENERALLY SPEAKING +- normies love to hang their phones over cliffs to take selfies, what if you break or lose your phone? i don't ascribe to boy scout mentality but most normies are very liable to break their phone outdoors eventually. +- smartphones are not anywhere on the same universe as battery efficient. +--- 2543089 +>>2543080 +>its a bad idea for you to do it because normies ars stupid +????? +--- 2543114 +>>2543089 +when giving general advice you need to consider the audience. +--- 2543116 +>>2543114 +I see, I tend to assume the best of a person until I see otherwise. +--- 2543326 +>>2538878 +why did "Jim Shockey" (who?) use a green screen instead of actually going /out/? +--- 2543329 +>>2538630 (OP) +>wanting to be found +--- 2543838 +>>2538699 +Cell Sites go down in remote places all the time and you really want a way to get help in case shit goes south +>t. Towerfag +--- 2543852 +>>2543329 +if you feel modern society was wrong to keep you alive past infancy, you can always fix that right now, no need to keep whining about on the internet. +--- 2544023 +>>2543838 +Mobile devices have gps... +--- 2544030 +>>2544023 +He’s said “get help,” Anon. +--- 2544160 +Several phones have satelite connections. +--- 2544237 +>>2544160 +Which ones? I know the newest iPhone (I think it just came out last year) advertised it as a brand new feature. +--- 2544249 +>>2544237 +would still rather take my shitty old thuraya than a meme sat phone. +--- 2544284 +>>2544237 +Some random europhone also has it. I know im reaching here but at the end of the day a sat module can easily be connected to a shart phone. +--- 2544290 +>>2544284 +>say module +I’ve never heard of such a thing. Post link? Sounds interesting. +--- 2544298 +>>2538919 +Why do faggots insist on telling flaming mandril ass lies? +--- 2544299 +>>2544298 +>do a thing +>”I don’t believe you” +Ok +--- 2544303 +>>2544023 +Mobiles devices are reliant on the internet to interpret GNSS coordinates into a direction or bearing thats populates your map app unless you pay for some premium subscription app +Dedicated GPS devices have that baked in and can changes course or directions on the fly without the internet +Being able to reach out anywhere with a view of the sky is a major burden lifted +>Everywhere I go has cell service +you are not really /out/ then +--- 2544307 +>>2544290 +Iridium is the first one that comes to mind. + +>>2544303 +>Mobiles devices are reliant on the internet to interpret GNSS coordinates +>Dedicated GPS devices have that baked in and can changes course or directions on the fly without the internet +>direction +>baked in +I need you to not opine on topics you are inadequately informed about. +--- 2544310 +>>2544303 +Sorry bro, but you’re just straight up wrong. +--- 2544312 +I bought this. Should I have gotten the inreach instead? +--- 2544313 +>>2544312 +--- 2544316 +>>2544303 + +See: >>2540855 +--- 2544674 +>>2538630 (OP) +The market is going to get interesting when the rocket autist gets his big shiny sky dilater flying regularly, the next gen starlink sats are going to include lower baud G5 cell reception through T-Mobile: +https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacex-to-serve-t-mobile-phones-with-second-gen-starlink-satellites +--- 2544700 +My buddy went down solo riding Idaho BDR, inreach was the only reason he got outta that shit alive and it's why I'm gonna snag one when I start taking my bike into the sticks this spring. +--- 2544758 +>>2544700 +I think anything on an ATV or 4x4 would be more dangerous in terms of being stranded and unreachable, especially in the western half of the US. You can get pretty far from civilization and any kind of minor breakdown could be a disaster. I hiked two days on a sprained ankle and it wasn’t the end of the world. But if I was 30 miles out with a flat tire or something I’d be fucked. +--- 2544843 +>>2544700 +>>2544758 +You really shouldnt be going anywhere without the kit to survive... +--- 2545162 +I’m on the fence about this unit. It has “in reach” non emergency texting and emergency beacon with 2 way com. Also replace my seperate dog training collar, and my gps (phone does not work where I hunt at all). It’s almost 1500 with 2 collars but I really am thinking about it. The only downside is you can’t use it to make a virtual electric fence, you can make a boundary line that alerts you if the dog leaves but it won’t auto-shock them like some of the other brands. Upside is everything else. Never owned a Garmin anything but they seem well built +--- 2545179 +>>2545162 +I have an older model I use on two huskies. Its great. Geo fence is hands on, thats all. When it beeps, you manually correct. Just keep the unit by you while training. A smart dog learns pretty quick. Also it has hella range. Easily 5 miles here in a very heavily wooded area of hilly terrain. Great battery life. Half a day on the handheld, day plus on the collar depending on setup. Less transmitting means longer life. The only downside Ive found is map sucks, as in it only shows terrain zoomed out to like an inch equals a mile. It can get you places, but dont expect it to show the terrain or trails. Theres also a lighter/smaller collar for smaller dogs. + +I assume the posted version has added inreach features? +--- 2545242 +Yes this one has in reach, Birds Eye view, better screen but still has buttons the reviews say they fixed the UI slot with this one. Just the price. +--- 2545250 +>>2540675 +i just have a unit that can do only text/weather report but it does have gps. + +tree cover makes it difficult for these iridium devices to communicate, in the PNW its so thick i cant get a signal. I will run the diagnostics on the unit under a variety of tree cover and it has to be pretty thin for it to work. + +GPS is received via a different antenna on a 1 way signal on a band that is not hindered by tree cover too much. +--- 2545264 +>>2543326 +>who? +Jim Shockey is arguably the most accomplished hunter alive today. He has hunted in almost every country where it is currently legal to hunt, and has taken hundreds of species of game. Shockey is a true hunter and explorer who has hunted in places that most people wouldn't even contemplate visiting (Pakistan, Chad, Somaliland, Central African Republic, Republic of Congo, just to name a few). +>use a green screen instead of actually going /out/? +Because that picture is from a photo shoot for an Outdoor Life Magazine article. +--- 2545265 +>>2541596 +>So do you need cell reception or not? +Without cell reception, reliability is questionable. And when you could be faced with a life or death situation, that's unacceptable. +--- 2545267 +>>2545265 +W +R +O +N +G + +stop being fucking stupid. +A cellphone with an antenna has the reliability and accuracy of a dedicated gps. +--- 2545268 +>>2545267 +That hasn't been my experience. I have been /out/ with a mobile phone and a GPS on me at the same time in places without reception, and the GPS was more accurate. +--- 2545270 +>>2545268 +>with an antenna +--- 2545271 +I got the new iPhone 14 max with satellite. I also use the Gaia maps app so I can track exactly where I am even with zero reception or service. +--- 2545277 +>>2538630 (OP) +No paper maps are more fun +--- 2545524 +>>2543838 +you got a loicense to operate that? +--- 2546371 +>>2538630 (OP) +>Tell me about the times you have gotten lost anon. +Has never happened anon. Sometimes I will lose society for a while, but I have never lost myself. +--- 2546379 +>>2546371 +Based all who wonder are not lost chad +--- 2548401 +>>2544303 +nu-out will seethe at this this, but you're right +--- 2548472 +>>2548401 +>is factually incorrect +>"youre right" +What did he mean by this +--- 2549267 +>>2538735 + +>U up? ;) I just fell 15m and shattered my tibia, maybe you could come check it out ;P thx +--- 2549280 +>>2548472 +It means you'll seethe at it, because you don't any better and don't care to educate yourself. +--- 2549287 +The entire world was explored with maps and a compass. I might think about buying one if I was going somewhere notorious for hikers getting lost like the area around the AT or that forest in Australia where people always get lost and die. I live in a place with a lot of Identifiable mountains and rivers so I don't have any need for one. I'm generally pretty confused when I see people hiking popular trails with them. I also notice that a lot of the stories I read about hikers who get in over their heads and die (like that banker woman in NH) they have a PLB with them. If I were to get mauled by a bear or fall and break my leg I would prefer to die like a man. +--- 2549391 +>>2543852 +>You can fix it right now +With how many pipe bombs? +--- 2549413 +>>2538702 +those sorts of GPS units (like Foretrex too although that's even more basic) are really designed to be used with a physical topo map. They're just good for getting your exact location and orienting you to a point or following a route but not for route planning or looking at your surrounding area. The ones with digital topo maps are nice but generally cost a shit ton more and it means if the thing dies or breaks then you don't have maps at all (same with a phone, carry a physical map and compass too for god's sake anons, it's a few hundred extra grams). +--- 2549487 +I go hiking solo and the main thing I'm worried about is snake bites and broken leg/ankle. I do want to get an inreach, but the price and subscription is a bit high for the amount of /out/ I do. +--- 2549588 +>>2549280 +>because you dont know any better +Oh, my bad. I forgot to do my indoctrination session last week. +--- 2549605 +>>2549267 +>Can you launch a full search and rescue operation for me plz? Yeah I just sprained my ankle I have water for a couple of days but I can't walk back. Oh, it'll be 20k dollars plus tip? Guess I'll pay up since it's my only option and I can't just text my buddy to come pick me up... +--- 2549608 +>>2538633 +the battery lasts twice as long and it tracks more accurately at speed when it's oriented properly. If I keep it in my backpack the battery dies from constantly searching for maps and re-orienting. + +I don't know why these idiots need a GPS for day hikes, though, I only bring one to places where I would actually need one in an emergency. + +>>2538734 +>>2540710 +based +--- 2549631 +>>2549608 +>If I keep it in my backpack the battery dies from constantly searching for maps and re-orienting. +You couldnt just turn it off when youre not using it? +--- 2549632 +>>2545179 +>The only downside Ive found is map sucks, as in it only shows terrain zoomed out to like an inch equals a mile. It can get you places, but dont expect it to show the terrain or trails. +Can't you change the level of detail in the settings? If I remember correctly there is some setting on the gpsmapp 66 for example. +--- 2549634 +>>2549608 +If you zoom out on the map battery lasts much longer or if you use other page. Sure if you need to navigate it's not an option but if you just tracking it's good. +--- 2549647 +>>2549391 +Zero my troon friend! +Just a plastic bag, a short hose, some duct tape, and a party store helium tank. +--- 2549700 +>>2538633 +I don't think GPS will even be useful in places like k2 +Like you would have already planned so much in advance there's no mistaking the giant ridge you're going up and down +--- 2549709 +>>2549700 +>Like you would have already planned so much in advance there's no mistaking the giant ridge you're going up and down +Most fanous stories about mountain climbing feature AT LEAST one instance of a veteran climber mistaking landmarks. +--- 2549863 +>>2549487 +You have plenty of time after a snake bite to make it to the hospital. Unless you're multiple days hike away from the road system in an area with a lot of snakes, you're gonna be fine. +--- 2550061 +>>2538630 (OP) +They're only worth it if you go in areas that are bumfuck nowhere. If you're hiking the AT, and you're not retarded enough to get lost, someone's going to stumble upon you before you die, probably. If you're in Bumfuck WV, hiking near the NRQZ, a broken leg is almost a death sentence. I've been in National Forest areas that I haven't seen other people in over a week, and that's in the spring. As modern tech bullshit as it is, bring your phone, bring an external battery, and bring an SOS system if you're going somewhere that others aren't. And for god's sake, get the insurance if you aren't on public land. +--- 2550234 +>>2549605 +>Ok lol xD sending the chopper :p sowwy that happened to you +--- 2550371 +>>2545524 +I wish +--- 2550376 +>>2549700 +Pakistani army will heli you for the low price of 4000$ an hour +--- 2550518 +>>2543838 +>>2545524 +>>2550371 +--- 2550520 +>>2550061 +that old chick who was thru hiking starved to death just off of the AT lol +somethin like inchworm or whatever, she wasn't that far off and it was retarded she starved to death but lol women +anyways no one found her until quite awhile after she was dedz +--- 2550615 +>>2538699 +You have data when you go camping? Your phone battery lasts over a week on one charge? Your phone has satellite connection? Your phone does has a fragile screen and will die if it gets too wet. +--- 2550618 +>>2538919 +Funny how youre so vague and dont actually say anything but deflecting stupid comments. Maybe actually post up or shut up. +--- 2550755 +>>2550615 +>You have data when you go camping? +Dont need a tower to com with gps sats +>Your phone battery lasts over a week on one charge? +Yes, learn what the settings menu is you boomer fuck +>Your phone has satellite connection? +Yes, enter the second millenium you boomer fuck +>Your phone does has a fragile screen and will die if it gets too wet. +Shock case, glass screen protector, waterproof rating. + +GET +WITH +THE +TIMES +--- 2550955 +>>2549267 +Just realized the last time I sent or received a text like this was more than 5 years ago. +--- 2551231 +>>2550955 +You old fuck +--- 2551412 +>>2538699 +Because people that actually go off trail in rugged terrain don't want to rely on a non-ruggedized piece of equipment that is water and cold sensitive with unreliable batteries. +Now please hush, adults are speaking. +--- 2551413 +>>2538714 +>A phone is better than a GPS +ahahhaahahhahah +ahahhahahahah +You're the cell shill that says retarded shit in every GPS thread--you have some serious mental issues on top of being a pathological liar. +--- 2551415 +>>2550755 +holy shit you sound like an infomercial for retards and no, your phone doesn't have a week long battery life in the woods--more of that pathological lying I see. +Expensive phones get 3 days... MOST phones don't even come that close. + +So, again, you're going to tell more lies because you cant stop yourself. +--- 2551421 +>>2550615 +Celltards don't understand that the accuracy of Cellphone GPS is significantly improved by tower triangulation augmentation and so, when you go out of network, cellphone location accuracy drops significantly. +99% of cellphones use the cheapest GPS receiver-hardware possible because they know most users will use the augmented accuracy from the towers. +ALL advertised cellphone location accuracies are based on A-GPS not stand-alone GPS. Celltards always lie about this. +--- 2551425 +>>2551415 +>he doesn't know how to disable apps and updates +ngmi +--- 2551442 +>>2551425 +>Doesn't actually respond to anything +>Lies more about battery life +Fun fact: you cant substantiate any of your claims. +Lets try something fun--list off the technical specs of your battery and the model of your phone so I can laugh at you for demonstrating your claim is mathematically impossible at room temperature and an absolute fairy tail in winter conditions. +--- 2551455 +>>2551442 +>An Analysis of Power Consumption in a Smartphone--Aaron Carroll +>Many such cases +--- 2551465 +>>2551442 +I'm not that anon. And it's tale, not tail. +--- 2551488 +>>2551465 +>Unironically Spellchecking on 4chan with broken grammar. +You're a special kind of retard. +--- 2551491 +>>2538630 (OP) +They do not work in wooded areas, mountainous areas, or canyons. +--- 2551503 +>>2551488 +>I know you are, but what am I: the post +--- 2551511 +>>2551503 +>Battery life: celltard proven to be lying and cells have shit battery life +>GPS accuracy: celltard proven to be lying and cells have shit stand alone GPS +>GPS sturdiness: celltard proven to be lying and cells are delicate as fuck +>Celltards: REEEEEE WE MUST SEND IN THE SPELLCHECKERS AND PETTY COMMENTERS BECAUSE WE CAN'T WIN ON FACTS OR LOGIC +every time. +--- 2551524 +>>2550371 +you should, they're kinda fun to cruise around in +>>2550518 +FAFO. Mistakes were made, and mistakes have consequences. +--- 2551533 +>>2551511 +The post where you linked your proof must have gotten deleted, anon. Could you throw it up again? +--- 2551548 +>>2551533 +I debunked all of your substantiated claims. +also, there's literally a graduate study on the matter listed in this thread... so, you're outed for lying again. +--- 2551558 +>>2551548 +>75 posters in this thread +>Every person I respond to is the same person +Are the lies in the room with us now, anon? +--- 2551572 +>>2551415 +>your phone doesn't have a week long battery life in the woods +Yes it does +>Expensive phones get 3 days +The price has nothing to do with it, whatever phone has the highest capacity battery will get the longest life. Im talking android ofcourse, i have no idea how to work an ios phone. + +>>2551442 +>lie!lie!lie!lie! +Okay but do you have an actual argument? +>mathematically impossible at room temperature and an absolute fairy tail in winter conditions +Its called a pocket +--- 2551574 +>>2551511 +>proven +--- 2551592 +>>2551574 +Correct. +It's easy to debunk celltards when they make outlandish claims supported by zero data. Just ask them to show their evidence and laugh because there isn't any. +>>2551572 +You're still lying I see. +>>2551455<---debunked + +>>2551558 +celltards like you are my favorite +bnhinged and spewing 100% /pol/isms even though I'm betting you despise /pol/ +--- 2551608 +>>2551592 +>debunked +Troll/10 +--- 2551614 +>>2551592 +>uses a chart looking at a normal phone setup +>this somehow debunks the claim that modifying the settings to extend battery life is possible +--- 2551615 +>>2551592 +>/pol/ +>/pol/ +>/pol/ +sea kelp +--- 2551677 +>>2551608 +>>2551614 +>>2551615 +samefagging +>more lying +pathetic. +continue. you amuse me. +absolutely don't tell me which battery your phone uses because basic math debunks your obvious lie. +pro tip" +you're obviously lying to anyone who knows anything about batteries +continue though, playing with children entertains me and your obviously not an adult. +continue proving me correct. +--- 2551679 +>>2551614 +>I can modify my phones power consumption, on standby, to last more than 48 hours +>nevermind that freezing temperatures half that estimate +continue lying +according to the people that make batteries for cellphones the best you can do on the lowest power setting is two days on a smart phone. +You're still in checkmate. +lmao +--- 2551681 +>>2551679 +>I can modify my phones power consumption, on standby, to last more than 48 hours +Yes. +>nevermind that freezing temperatures half that estimate +Its called a pocket. + +Lmao you wanna get really mad? +Battery banks exist. + +I dont even HAVE to adjust anything on my phone yo make it last for a week. + +Checkmate? Buddy we're playing checkers. +--- 2551698 +>>2551681 +>My cell totally lasts more than 48 hours if I turn it off and don't use it +Indeed +>If I lie even more no one will notice +indeed... +soo, what was the model number of your battery? I accept that you're a liar so I'm really just mocking you. +We both know you don't have any idea of how batteries are rated or how to calculate lifespan. Considering I literally posted the real world tests and associated engineering you're lies are not just pathetic, they are yet another example of what you are. +continue. I give you permission. More than that: I expect you to continue. +At this point you're just another one of my bitches lmao +--- 2551699 +>>2551681 +>>2551698 +just fuck already. +--- 2551700 +>>2551699 +>Arguing makes me horney +I'm not interested in whatever fag fantasy you're invisioning. +--- 2551703 +>>2551700 +take your boyfriend and go be a faggot elsewhere. +--- 2551714 +>>2551703 +>celltard response category C +Damn, I single handedly humiliated ya'll this much...again. All I did was the basic battery energy density math that any freshman in engineering would know for the last 40 years...lmao, do better celltard +--- 2551716 +>>2551714 +sure, you won, if that makes you go makes you go be an aids infested cock goblin elsewhere. +--- 2551718 +>>2551716 +I didn't win +I told the truth and you didn't +I'm better at telling the truth than you are at lying. +You're objectively a liar, I could care less about subjectively winning. +That's the difference between a low iq (you) and me: I was never trying to win and don't even care about that metric. I out liars, and idiots like you make that easy. Now go away you're boring. +--- 2551724 +>>2551698 +>lies about what someone said +>calls them a liar +Try again +--- 2551726 +>>2551718 +The fact that you think the anon telling both of us to shut up is the persons you were arguing with just proves how fucking unhinged you are +Refer to +>>2551558 +--- 2551774 +>>2538630 (OP) +I'm looking at getting a GPSMap this year. The subs seem worth it, since you can do month-to-month and avoid wasting money on it when you don't need it. The lowest sub (15 bucks?) gives you access to all the functions plus a few texts and unlimited pre-written "check in" messages. Even without the sub, the devices can still be used for maps. +--- 2551781 +I carry a pld in remote areas, but leave it home on less remote hikes. the inreach mini is like ~100g so it's hard to justify not carrying one in remote areas. handy for weather updates as well, but I haven't used it for nav +--- 2551895 +>>2551726 +>>2551724 +>Get repeatedly outed for lying so resort to low IQ bant: Celltard argument C +Called it. continue--owning you bitches is easy , you do it for me. +>>2551781 +Anyone who needs more than a grid location from a GPS lacks the competence to go off trail. I carry my GPS with me but I almost never use it because I can read a map. +--- 2551899 +>>2551895 +>Anyone who needs more than a grid location from a GPS lacks the competence to go off trail. +I'm with you. The inreach mini is great in this respect as it's much more a plb than a gps imo. +--- 2551902 +>>2551899 +I don't like lithium ion batteries +The are notorious for poor preformance in cold weather and have reliability issues regarding charge-discharge-lifespan. One of the major advantages of hand held GPS is the ability to swap out batteries. All of my out electronics take the same batteries. +--- 2551903 +>>2551902 +fair points. I've never had an issue with it, it's pretty easy to manage. but yeah interchangeable batteries is cool +--- 2552044 +>>2551895 +>outed for lying +Ive gotta say, ive encountered plenty of arguments in my life. But "nuh uh, ur a liar" immediately followed by zero argument or evidence has gotta be one of the weirdest tacticts ive encountered. + +Who hurt you? +--- 2552075 +>>2538630 (OP) +I've got clinical amnesia so you better fucking believe I'm never doing a solo backwoods trek without a GPS unit. All it takes is a bad night setting up camp and I wake up not even realizing I'm 10 miles from my car +That said, USGS and trail maps + compass and notebook will still be 1000x more reliable and dare I say FUN compared to staring at a screen to get you to where you wanna go. Plus a compass doesn't run out of batteries in a worst-case survival situation +--- 2552817 +>>2551524 +Why they gotta be so goddamn expensive +--- 2552922 +>>2552044 +>>2551895<--still here +Pretty pathetic bant desu +Tell us the line about getting a week out of a cell battery, I need another giggle. +--- 2552963 +>>2552922 +>full tilt cope +I accept your concession +--- 2553299 +>>2552963 +take your meds skitzo +--- 2553321 +>>2553299 +>full blown tr*nnie cope +LMAO +--- 2553550 +>>2553321 +>c-c-cope! +take your meds skitzo +--- 2553628 +>>2553550 +Lmao look at him cope, mayhaps a degre of seethe? +--- 2553645 +>>2545250 +>tree cover makes it difficult for these iridium devices to communicate, in the PNW its so thick i cant get a signal. +Oh I was thinking you said you couldn't get a GPS signal (receiving only) - you mean a communications signal (broadcast is needed). + +That kinda makes sense. + +Makes me think I should actually test the broadcast case - I assumed that if GPS was working the communication out would be fine... + +>>2549608 +>I don't know why these idiots need a GPS for day hikes, though, I only bring one to places where I would actually need one in an emergency. +I lately bring mine on a ton of even easy/well traveled hikes. Mostly since I already bothered to buy it, so I might as well use it and learn it well. Better to be prepared than not, etc etc. I also over pack water and a filter, just too many years of boy scouts ingrained it in me. + + +Plus metrics tracking (speed but mostly vertical gain) is interesting to know. + +Good way to shake-down test your gear - I didn't realize until an easy hike that battery will significantly discharge over a few weeks if left off in a cold garage - now I know to top it off overnight before trip, vs just trying to top it off on car charger during drive out to trailhead. Much happier having that learning on a pedestrian hike than a real trip. + +>>2549700 +>I don't think GPS will even be useful in places like k2 +eh, if you can geo fence your expected route, and have it beep at if you leave route, it might help you correct if you start to fuck up your route due to impaired decision making from low oxygen or start of hypothermia, or just some kind of panic. + +Defense in depth and all that. +--- 2553648 +I didn't come into this thread with an opinion, but the celltards are fucking annoying. I'm thinking GPS unit and no cellphone is the way to go +--- 2553665 +>>2553648 +Nobody asked +--- 2553688 +>>2553628 +>take your meds skitzo +--- 2553727 +>>2553688 +--- 2554811 +>>2553665 +>Celltard comes into a Inreach thread +>Spams complete bullshit about cellphones +Your lack of self awareness is beyond impressive. +--- 2554812 +>>2552963 +>>2553299 +>>2553321 +>>2553550 +Truly amazing. This is quite honestly the best celltards have to offer. Pathetic +>>2553645 +Not him but I'm also in the PNW. The GPS satellites are transmit only, there are more of them, and they are in a higher orbit than the Iridium. Even on shit days I have around 9 GPS satellites "visible" +The communications goes through iridium and only connects to one Satallite at a time...it's more like a cell service but the towers move instead of the phone. +>>2549700 +You're 100% wrong. If anything you need more waypoints on K2 as awful weather can hit at any time and in whiteout all you have is the GPS and compass. +--- 2554835 +>>2552817 +--- 2554912 +>>2554811 +Delusional + +>>2554812 +Half of the posts you quoted are in response to 'celltards' not from them you retard +--- 2555272 +>>2554912 +You're awful at this. Truly pathetic. Tell the lie about cellphone battery life again--I need a giggle. +--- 2555282 +>>2554912 +Stop responding to the troll +--- 2555286 +>>2555282 +>Anyone who points out that cellphones have shit battery life (especially in cold weather), inferior out of network GPS performance and aren't rugged at all is a troll +Indeed. We got a big brain here. +--- 2555440 +>>2555272 +>tell a lie about +you already proved yourself wrong kiddo, try again + +>>2555282 +No this thread is shit and in rolling in it + +>>2555286 +>points out that cellphones have shit battery life (especially in cold weather) +What is a pocket, what are settings, what are battery packs. Did you think posting some faggots study where he used the factory "battery saver mode" proved you right? Lmao even. + +>inferior out of network GPS performance +We already had this discussion retard, its called an antenna. + +>rugged at all is a troll +Oh youre one of those kids who has a broken screen 99% of the time because youve never hears of a fucking case. + +Get fucked idiot +--- 2555497 +>>2555440 +Stop responding to the troll +--- 2555502 +>>2555497 +No! I dont wanna! +--- 2555696 +>>2555440 +Truly pathetic. +>Calling me out for lying is trolling: REEEE +fucking absolutly priceless. Look at how vapid your "argument" is...truly amazing..lamo + +Here is my FAVORITE question you're incapable of answering: where do you out? lmao +>>2555497 +>Being smarter than an 80IQ celltard is trolling +Absolutely reddlt. +>>2555502 +LAMO +pathetic + +Here is why you're lying about out of network GPS (shocking I know, people actually researched it and shokingly you're obviously lying): + +Accuracy of iPhone Locations: A +Comparison of Assisted GPS, WiFi and +Cellular Positioning +Paul A Zandbergen + +Why you're a liar about batteries--this is very researched actually. +An Analysis of Power Consumption in a Smartphone--Aaron Carroll + +Lie more though, you're so cringe it's absolutely amazing. +--- 2555772 +OSMand (get the pro version for free from F-droid) with the map style set to topo has done everything I need it to in the Idaho backcountry. Waypoints, up to date trails and in my time hiking hunting and generally enjoying the outdoors I have literally never had an issue with finding GPS on my phone. Far from any cell towers too. Sat-phones have no competition for emergencies and the battery life is notable but the inreach I had the chance to use was unintuitive and they aren't exactly cheap. +Do whatever you want. +--- 2555817 +>>2538630 (OP) +I was just looking at GPSMap models over the weekend. Previously I've taken my phone out with me because the GPS works well enough to get me back to a road and it's not like battery life is an issue, but I'd like to be able to send text messages to the wife when I'm out for multiple days with no reception. +--- 2555878 +>>2555696 +>"youre lying about gps! (In 2023)"" +>posts research from 2009 to prove it + +>"youre lying about batteries! (In 2023)" +>posts article from 2010 to prove it +--- 2555934 +>>2555696 +Holy shit, it's the "priceless" guy again, making another dumb argument. See >>2555878 +--- 2556137 +>>2555878 +>Can't counter any of the arguments +truly pathetic. So not only can you not substantiate anything you say but your counter to the scientific evidence is to ignore it--absolutely priceless + +Where do you out again? Lamo--fess up you're the Poland guy. + +>>2555934 +>It's all the same person +LMAO--triggered! Yes, it's all the same person in every thread on every board ... I can't get enough of how retarded you are... +yes, +it's priceless +--- 2556178 +>>2538630 (OP) +Worth it for the SOS button. +The mapping/navigation is useful, but I wouldn't spend the money for just that. + +Relationship Pro Tip: If you want to go on solo trips, get one of these and use the tracking so your significant other can see where you are. It's safer for you (both in terms of health and avoiding arguments with your wife) +--- 2556255 +>>2555817 +The company that I work for purchased Garmin GPSMap 66i's to replace our aging stock of 64s' and DeLorme inreaches and I must say that although having a two in one package is nice we've run into some problems. Namely the fact that you cannot swap batteries on the 66i. We had several instances of 66i's die on our guys in the field due to the cold (also because they left it in 10 minute tracking mode) and other than a battery bank they have no way to charge them. + +Personally the 66i has been good to me, but I also know how to use the device and how to keep it functioning, we dont always get the brightest guys sampling for us. + +>>2556178 +This is a good tip anon. +--- 2556417 +>>2556137 +>you cant counter my arguments if i ignore your counter +True, that is true, good point. + +Would you perhaps like to provide RELEVANT research? Relating to technology of this FUCKING DECADE???? +--- 2556436 +>>2544674 +Yeah and I'll probably switch to them if the pricing isn't retarded + +I make <15 minutes of calls a month and still have to pay $35 fucking dollars for it +--- 2556554 +>>2545268 +>>2545271 +I have an iPhone 11. AllTrails works just fine in the backcountry here with downloaded maps. Never have gotten lost using it. + +Use a Zoleo to communicate with family on trips. + +The cold is a bane to lithium without question. +--- 2556592 +>>2556554 +>the cold is bane +For you +--- 2556606 +>>2556592 +This. Pockets and insulators kill the lithium scaremonger. +--- 2556769 +>>2556417 +The fact that you cant counter even old data is truly pathetic. + +You don't even know what model number your battery is or what part number your GPS is--lamo. Fun fact: none of that shit has been updated in decades retard. + +So basically, you're lying AND you cant even debunk old data. truly pathetic. + +>>2556554 +I love it when east coasters call what they have "back country" If you get lost you literally wak 30 minutes in a straight line and you'll hit a road or an established trail. +--- 2556772 +>>2556592 +>>2556606 +>I have to keep it warm to work +>Telling the truth about known problems with lithium ion is scare mongering +Its amazing how oblivious you are to how retarded you sound. +--- 2556778 +>>2556772 +>hurr durr cold bad for battery +>hurr durr keeping battery warm bad +I just came here to make batman jokes; what's your excuse? +--- 2556887 +>>2556778 +I don't need an excuse to know what I'm talking about. +--- 2556929 +>>2556887 +Well you haven't said anything about sucking dick, so we're pretty far out of your wheelhouse +--- 2556940 +>>2556769 +Why would i have to counter inapplicable data more than "its not relevant"? +--- 2556941 +>>2556769 +>You don't even know what model number your battery is +Yes i do +>or what part number your GPS is +Yes i do +>none of that shit has been updated in decades retard. +Yes it has + +Its telling that you cant do anything but cite outdated research and call people liars... +--- 2556942 +>>2556772 +>shirking known solutions to a problem in favor of complaining is scaremongering +Yes... +--- 2557273 +>>2556940 +>>2556941 +>>2556942 +Pathetic. +So we've established +Cell batteries are shit +Cell GPS out of network is bad +and Cellphones aren't rugged + +And your counter is, quite literally, It isn't because I say so reeeeee (in squaky, puberty voice). + +god damn you retards are truly amazing. What was those model numbers again? Wait, you don't actually know because you're a liar and won't post them--lamo. + +Where do you /out/ again...oh wait, you won't post that either. + +Lamo--keep lying and dodging and lying, that's all you celltards are capable of. + +Continue. +--- 2557295 +>>2556929 +why'd you bring that up, anon? is there something on your mind that you want to know more about? +--- 2557321 +>>2557295 +>I know you are but what am I +Way to take it on the chin, champ +--- 2557509 +>>2557273 +>so we've established +Astounding how you think you can just hand wave away the refutation of you """evidence""" + +Provide relevant sources retard, ill wait. +--- 2557510 +>>2557321 +He argues like a middle schooler, its amazing. +--- 2557748 +>>2557510 +>I have to mock someone for being younger than me +>chooses middleschool +Lamo, you truly are that pathetic +>>2557509 +I'm sorry, you had some fact somewhere supported by evidence in this thread? I must have missed it, link it would you? +>dodge, lie, seeth: incoming +--- 2557774 +In all seriousness its pretty amazing how garmin manages to make people pay iPhone money for technology straight from 2005. +--- 2557779 +>>2557510 +People peak where they peak, I guess. He probably misses lording over the jungle gym with his vast intellect, kek +--- 2557789 +>>2557295 +Muh dick bant is sadly the best he's been able to do on 4chan. It's all he's got, cut him some slack eh? He's trying his best. +>>2557779 +Come now, champ, humiliating yourself more is embarrassing. Try using your big boy words and explaining what has changed in the past decade with lithium ion batteries. +I need more laughs so indeed continue proving me correct. +Yes, I'm obviously smarter than you, but don't be intimidated I'm trying to help. +--- 2557978 +>>2557748 +Are you retarded? You literally used argumentation that a child would find juvenile. How the fuck can i be mocking you for being younger than me, how the fuck am i supposed to know how old you are???????? + +>I'm sorry, you had some fact somewhere supported by evidence in this thread? I must have missed it, link it would you? +I dont, and neither do you :) +--- 2557979 +>>2557774 +When when they act like apple fagd, its pretty easy to see why it works. +--- 2558336 +>>2557978 +>I can't counter any of your arguments therefore ad hominim +Your stupidity is endearing. Go on--keep not debunking anything I've posted (because you can't) and crying about how you got owned hard.. +lmao. +>>2557774 +The irony is Iphone is 2000s tech that people pay double market price for because of the brand name and superficial features. +Hint AM. 721-00051-A is the same, tired, regurgitation of a 90s garmin reciever for 10x the price. +--- 2558345 +>TMW you realize that the guy trolling the thread isn't actually an insufferable faggot supporting Garmin, but is instead an Apple employee trying to turn people away from handheld GPS devices by spamming pretentious ad hominem +Well played, applefag. You almost had me convinced to stay away from GPS devices altogether. +--- 2558462 +>>2558336 +I literally countered your argument and personally insulted you :) + +Now post a relevant source +--- 2558463 +>>2558345 +Is this apple employee in the room with you right now? +--- 2558468 +>>2558463 +Weak +--- 2558469 +>>2558468 +Cry about it +--- 2558471 +>>2558469 +My brother in christ, are you high right now +--- 2558473 +>>2558471 +>coping this hard +--- 2558513 +>>2558473 +I'm still going to buy a GPS, apple anon. I don't care how obnoxious you are. +--- 2558515 +>>2538630 (OP) +how often do people accidentally bump the SOS button? +--- 2558519 +>>2558513 +>malding yourself into consooming +Lmao even +--- 2558544 +>>2544312 +if you want it as a life saving device it's fine. I reach mini has other features but also costs money for a subscription +--- 2558556 +Galileo and beidou were not available on smartphones in 2009 so things have definitely changed since then. I'm not the guy you're arguing with so don't reee at me +--- 2558820 +>>2538630 (OP) +I look like this. +--- 2558831 +I scuba dive and use an inreach mini 2. Granted the thing does NOT work underwater, I figure any casualty underwater while scuba diving is fatal if you can't recover and two if I'm fucked up at the surface or sweapted out to sea I have an emergency means of batphoning home as PLB. Worse case at least my family has a corpse they can recover. +Also yeah the inreach systems are primarily a PLB they have GPS but that just a standard feature in any PLB made in the last decade. + +Also if you want to use it on a plant carrier or any MOLLE webbing you have to get a chain of adapters which imo is fuckin high kikery from Garmin. For me with the underwater case it was underwater case > back clip>slide>MOLLE adapter all separate accessories. +U/W Case and molle adapter +https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07JCLL891/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=A1GIKH3L785S8V&psc=1 +Retarded required part that doesn't come with the above. +https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07JCLL891/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=A1GIKH3L785S8V&psc=1 +--- 2558855 +>>2538878 +This is the only post in here worth reading +good job anon +--- 2559536 +>>2538878 +Best post +--- 2560174 +>>2558855 +>contains literal lies +--- 2560218 +>>2560174 +Not to be confused with figurative lies +--- 2560225 +>>2560218 +Unironcially yes +--- 2562087 +>>2538878 +Only good post in this thread. +--- 2562100 +>>2538878 +On the internet you're homosexual & pussy for bringing a parachute to parachute jumping. + +While out of the pod nobody ever called me gay or pussy for wearing or using any and every sport related gear or even gimmick. +In fact only ever received mires of my cycle helm when cycling, slim speedos during swimming, walking poles when hiking etc. +--- 2562110 +>>2562100 +That should tell you people are dishonest irl +--- 2562112 +>>2562110 +It takes courage to leave the pod and that's the fear being projected on the internet. +It's too obvious on this board when all of it comes from people that clearly never go out. +It's like when the internet dwellers join irl, they overcome those fears. +--- 2562161 +>>2538878 +I've been tempted to buy one of these handheld GPS devices for years. Aside from being able to send an SOS in an emergency, having a GPS for navigation sounds super convenient. I've tried using GPS apps like AllTrails/Gaia but they just don't seem to work well on my S10e and I ended up going back to just consulting a map when needed. + +The problem is that Garmin just seems like one of those niche companies that lack competition. They're still relying on the MIPS architecture which is close to 40 years old and slow as fuck, and they're charging a lot of money for it. And they get away with it because basically nobody else is making handheld GPS devices. I'm conflicted. +--- 2562771 +>>2558462 +>Gets owned +>still doesn't answer any of the questions or counter any points at all +>Multiple posters debunk celltard retardation +>Pretends it didn't happen +lmao +--- 2562772 +>>2560174 +Which are lies? +Use your words like a big boy--it's hard for you obviously but you can do it. +--- 2562778 +>>2538630 (OP) +They're not worth it for your average /out/ poster who never hikes in consequential terrain and never ventures too deep into backcountry areas +--- 2564708 +if I wanted a dedicated GPS unit , I'd get a cheap "tough" smartphone off AliExpress, put OSMTrack / OsmAnd+ on it, and disable everything else that might possibly drain the battery +--- 2566872 +Bump because this thread made out seethe +--- 2567004 +>>2551421 +>everyone is lying +We’re reaching schizophrenia levels we didn’t think we’re possible! +--- 2567005 +>>2551677 +>you amuse me + +This is the best thread on /out/ +--- 2567057 +>>2567005 +>the trilby +Perfect. He probably really is a forty-something myspace fossil, using the wifi at mcdonalds to claim his intellectual superiority on an egyptian snail breeding forum while he euphorically eats fistfuls of fries diff --git a/out/2540305.txt b/out/2540305.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b6a6269dd9918ca3176eb9990611c3ba0a06f7e6 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2540305.txt @@ -0,0 +1,731 @@ +----- +--- 2540305 +I am looking to do something memorable for an important birthday of mine. +I would like to walk 70km to a very small village in a extraordinarily shit part of south eastern romania as that is the village I spent a considerable amount of my childhood in. +My birthday is in early August. +During early august where I live the temperatures are usually near 40 celcius or more. It is usually bone dry but sometimes there are tropical rains which put even the storms of Havana to shame. +The route to that village has 2km of gravel road of varying intensity. The rest of it is pure dirt road. +The dangers include:packs of rabid dogs,very hungry dogs,migratory wolves;swarms of aggressive wasps;drunk and angry car drivers;and the rare druggie which uses shoe glue to get high. +If I am lucky,it will be dry and the road will be dry dirt. +If I am unlucky,it will rain and the road will be mud. +If I am very unlucky,it would have rained before sunrise,making a humid,hot suffocating atmosphere. The road will be a very thick mud. +What tools and equipment do I need to make such a journey possible? +What tools should I have in order to counter the packs of canines which usually patrol the area? +Could you mention anything related to this subject such as similar experiences? +FYI in Romania,owning a gun as a nonpolitician or police officer is impossible. +The max length acceptable for a fully extended pocket knife legally is from the tip of your longest finger to your wrist which in my case is 17.5cm,but in practice police will give you shit if your knife isn't 6cm long or smaller. +It is a pain to obtain pepper spray and cops will give you shit for that too. +In Romania,if you defend yourself from a murderer,you get 5-10 years and a whole lot more if you kill him while he gets 1-2 years and may get even less if he says he defended himself. Also if you hurt an animal,you are legally obligated to take it to a vet to treat it,otherwise you get a very hefty fine and 1 year in prison. +--- 2540309 +>>2540305 (OP) +>What tools and equipment do I need to make such a journey possible? + +You're going to need a water filter and you'll want to know the location of water sources along the way. You'll also want some quick to eat high energy food. Some electrolyte packets to add to your water as well. + +A daypack should be fine with minimal supplies, because you are going to want to travel light. + +>What tools should I have in order to counter the packs of canines which usually patrol the area? + +A couple trekking poles should be all you need plus they will help you along the way. + +That is going to take you ALL DAY. Like 20 hrs or so. Hope you are in good shape. I would think more like a marathon runner than a hiker. +--- 2540310 +>>2540305 (OP) +On a hike like that 70km equates to around 12-14 hours of constant march (you will need brakes so if you do it in less than 16 hours it will be an achievement), that anon is a right out endurance sport. Given you have no idea how to go about it makes it clear you are not ready to try that, your muscles and ligaments and joints are not ready to try that, and definitely your head is not ready to try that. If you really want to attempt that (which is a stupid idea but doable) the first thing you need to do is get some good hiking shoes (for flat ground i would take trail runners over normal hiking boots) and start walking at least every other day. Maybe, if you start training now, you will be in a shape giving you a fighting chance by August. Maybe. If you do what i suggest you will figure out the technicalities by yourself pretty quickly. +--- 2540312 +>>2540309 +>location of water sources +There are none. Maybe a tiny puddle full of musquito larva but thats it +>A daypack should be fine with minimal supplies +such as? +>A couple trekking poles should be all you need plus they will help you along the way. +Man,the way to there is FLAT. No hills or nothing,flatland. +I do not have any trekking poles as I have never went to a hilly region where they may be useful. +>Some electrolyte packets +I do not know what those are,what they do and I neither know where I can buy them. +>You'll also want some quick to eat high energy food. +such as? Should I cook something at home? +>Hope you are in good shape. I would think more like a marathon runner than a hiker. +When I get my groceries I can carry 20-25kg bags for 10km as that is the distance between where I am staying and the shop with semi affordable prices. +--- 2540318 +>>2540312 +>>location of water sources +>There are none. Maybe a tiny puddle full of musquito larva but thats it + +You're going to die. + +>>A daypack should be fine with minimal supplies +>such as? + +Osprey Manta + +>>A couple trekking poles should be all you need plus they will help you along the way. +>Man,the way to there is FLAT. No hills or nothing,flatland. +>I do not have any trekking poles as I have never went to a hilly region where they may be useful. + +Trust me, they are useful even on flat land. Bare minimum would be some sort of hiking staff/stick. + +>>Some electrolyte packets +>I do not know what those are,what they do and I neither know where I can buy them. + +Pic rel + +>>You'll also want some quick to eat high energy food. +>such as? Should I cook something at home? + +Energy bars and sugar candies + +>>Hope you are in good shape. I would think more like a marathon runner than a hiker. +>When I get my groceries I can carry 20-25kg bags for 10km as that is the distance between where I am staying and the shop with semi affordable prices. + +That's not bad. Try going grocery shopping twice in the same day. Do that often. +--- 2540322 +>>2540310 +>you will need brakes +Why? I have walked for 6 hours continously before and I never needed a break. +>and start walking at least every other day. +I walk 20km daily +>if you start training now +How? What should I do? +>trail runners over normal hiking boots +lol,I have none. I have a pair of chinkshit adidas copy which have carried me for 6 years,all day every day. +If I was to buy a pair of those,what materials would be best so the shoe would be durable and water resistant? +>Given you have no idea how to go about it +I've never done this before as if I go from one point of my city to the other it is 10km,20km if you don't pussy out and take the bus home. + +What should I take for the journey? How much should the backpack weigh? Would it be bad if I carried it in one hand so that I can defend myself from attackers? +--- 2540331 +>>2540318 +>You're going to die. +Is there anything I can do to prevent dying from dehydration +>Osprey Manta +File related although I asked about the supplies not the backpack +>Trust me, they are useful even on flat land +why? +>Pic rel +What are they used for? +>Energy bars and sugar candies +I haven't eaten any sugar since that new years cake slice. Will probably eat some sugar next month as there is someone's birthday then. +Is there anything other than sugar which fits this role? Does this really have to be carbs? What else which I can easily find at home works? Would going an entire day without eating kill me? +>That's not bad. Try going grocery shopping twice in the same day. Do that often. +Bro,I walk 20km a day minimum. I sometimes walk 40km long walks just for fun. +--- 2540341 +>>2540322 1/2 + +>Why? I have walked for 6 hours continously before and I never needed a break. +Because that shit doesn't scale, as with most endurance shenanigans think exponential, not linear. Keeping a good pace, let's say 5km/h hour after hour will wear you down, and you will need to keep it if you want to make the hike in relatively good conditions. +>I walk 20km daily +That is respectable +>How? What should I do? +If you are used to walking try doing one longer hike over the weekend, possibly increasing your load gradually, until you are comfortable lugging a reasonable day hike kit +>lol,I have none. I have a pair of chinkshit adidas copy which have carried me for 6 years,all day every day. +I am not joking here, at distances like that good foot support is crucial. +>If I was to buy a pair of those,what materials would be best so the shoe would be durable and water resistant? +IDK about water resistance, i would prioritize breathability over that, there is no way your feet will stay dry in the rain anyway really. As for durability, pretty much anything non meme from any decent brand will be good enough for what you want, i have a pair of relatively cheap trail runners from Asics and i can't really complain about them so far. Vibram soles beat polymer stuff, good padding (gel or otherwise) is welcome too. +>I've never done this before as if I go from one point of my city to the other it is 10km,20km +That's fine, what i meant was more in the aspect of mental preparedness, at some point you just need the attitude to push yourself further, and that comes with experience. +>What should I take for the journey? +That is a very personal thing, the short and convoluted answer is, whatever works for you. +--- 2540345 +>>2540322 2/2 +>How much should the backpack weigh? +Less than you are capable of comfortably carrying for a day, again, depends on your physical fitness. I will add a point here, i often see people throwing out a brand or model as an answer to "what should i get", that's not a great answer, the better one is, visit a decent outdoor shop, have some "load" with you so you can weight down the backpack, and choose what fits your body type well, that's far more important than whatever brand/type/purpose it is. +>Would it be bad if I carried it in one hand so that I can defend myself from attackers? +It would probably be pretty bad, asymmetric load will quickly strain your back and well fitted backpack doesn't really limit your movement enough to not let you defend yourself if you really had to. +--- 2540350 +>Is there anything I can do to prevent dying from dehydration + +You are going to go through a lot of water on a hot day hiking that far. Like 4-5 liters. Maybe if it's a rainy day you'll have less trouble. But it's going to be tough without a refill. Unless you want to carry all that water. + +>I asked about the supplies not the backpack + +Just off the top of my head: +A small towel or bandanna +A headlamp (you will be hiking in the dark either at the start or the end or likely both) +Food +Toilet kit (TP, hand sanitizer, small trowel to dig a cat hole. just in case) +Water filter +Maybe a light jacket or something. +Med kit +Power bank to recharge your phone +Maybe a tarp or poncho or a space blanket in case you have to spend the night out there. + + +>>Trust me, they are useful even on flat land +>why? + +They allow you to use some of the muscles in your arms to propel yourself forward so it's not all on your legs. + +>What are they used for? + +You put them in with your water to avoid hyponatremia: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hyponatremia/symptoms-causes/syc-20373711 + + +>Does this really have to be carbs? + +You'll need the energy. Sugar is a quick burst to get you out of a calorie hole. This isn't a time to think of loosing weight. You need calories to push you forward. Carbs can give you those calories quickly. A handful of gummy bears hits you quick and easy to digest on the move. + +>Bro,I walk 20km a day minimum. I sometimes walk 40km long walks just for fun. + +Ok great. Keep doing that. +--- 2540354 +>>2540331 +>Is there anything I can do to prevent dying from dehydration +drink water +--- 2540355 +>>2540341 +>If you are used to walking try doing one longer hike over the weekend, possibly increasing your load gradually, until you are comfortable lugging a reasonable day hike kit +I see. When I walk on long walks in my city I don't wear a backpack because why would I. Although those 20 daily km I do carry a heavy backpack with notebooks and the like. +What should a hike kit include? 2 liters of water and some food. Would boiled oatmeal work? What container should I use for that? +>your feet will stay dry in the rain anyway really +That dosen't bother me that much,but what really bothers me is dust resistance. I hate having black feet when walking for a bit in the country side when wearing shoes made of fabric/running shoes. +I can walk comfortably for 20km or longer in my leather shoes. +>whatever works for you +I was talking about supplies +>visit a decent outdoor shop +there is only one outdoor shop in my town and its a meme. +I have looked online for a big backpack and I found one with the capacity of 80l. Very very cheap,made of polyester. +>picture +I have a backpack which I use daily for carrying what I need,I am not sure how big it is,but it is the biggest I have seen at a supermarket,will post a picture of it next reply. +I am 60kgs at 172cm. +>doesn't really limit your movement enough to not let you defend yourself if you really had to. +I can't punch good with a loaded backpack on my back. Throws my balance way off. +--- 2540357 +>>2540305 (OP) +Furthest distance I've covered was just under 40mi (65km). +You should be able to cover the distance within the day, only tips I have are: +- You'll walk fast at first, after the 20mi mark your legs will start aching and slow down. The final 10mi will be the worst. +- Eat along the way, make sure not to eat anything too filling or you'll be too tired to finish. +- I would bring water and refill along the way if possible. You could get away without a pack; a charger, water and snacks can fit in cargo trousers pockets. +- Bring something to entertain you, the repetitive landscape will bore you early on. +- Don't do any long walks in the week before, after completing this walk your legs will feel dead for 3-4 days, to the point where you will struggle to walk and possibly fall over. +- Wear shorts and non restrictive clothing. I wore rugby shorts and a vest with trainers, something similar could work for you +--- 2540368 +>>2540305 (OP) +Ctrl+f socks +Zero matches + +NGMI +--- 2540369 +>>2540357 +>cargo trousers pockets. +I only have jeans and jorts +>You could get away without a pack +would a 80l backpack be overkill? +>Bring something to entertain you +I can listen in my head to the last 50 songs I've heard + some random ones which I haven't heard for 2 years or more. Are my thoughts enough? +What did you have in mind for "entertainment"? I am walking without nobody else. +>Wear shorts and non restrictive clothing +I worked entire days in the 40 celcius summer with regular jeans and a tucket polo tshirt. Somehow I had no overheating issues,didn't even break a sweat despite shovelling sand,carrying concrete,cutting trees down,etcetera. +Would jeans and a polo shirt suffice? +>>2540357 +>Eat along the way, make sure not to eat anything too filling or you'll be too tired to finish +Is it compulsory to eat? What should I eat? In what container should I carry stuff I made home? +>after completing this walk your legs will feel dead +Couldn't I walk back home the day after? I will find somewhere to stay and sleep. There is no public transport there and only 3 cars exist in the whole village. The nearest city is 70km away so neither could a taxi come and get me. +--- 2540373 +>>2540369 +You must be a troll, way to bait. +I'm not talking about heat when I say wear less restrictive clothing, you will feel better if you do - less strain. +For food just ear what you like, nuts are good but heavy. +You would want to weight a day after doing the hike, then you could probably do it on the way back +--- 2540381 +>>2540373 +>you will feel better if you do - less strain +I dislike it when I wear loose clothes. Bugs get in and annoy me +>You must be a troll, way to bait +Honestly,I am not a troll. +How am I baiting? +>food just ear what you like +How should I carry metal utensils for eating on the go? +--- 2540386 +>>2540381 +Wear what you want, I've just found loose clothes help more. +Use your hands or a take a spoon for eating on the go +--- 2540387 +>>2540381 +>Honestly,I am not a troll. + +>How should I carry metal utensils for eating on the go? + +Sure you aren't. I'm out. Have fun! +--- 2540391 +>>2540305 (OP) +I don't know if any of the anons here mentioned it yet, but I once walked about 55km in one day. Most of it on straight road. My feet were fine if very sore and my legs were weak for a day or so after. Now what fucked me up was my cock had been dangling in my pants rubbing against the fabric so often that the entire tip of it alongside my foreskin was rubbed raw so bad it was bleeding quite a bit afterwards. + +So take my advice, do not go commando or with boxer shorts if you do this. +--- 2540411 +I can’t help you much with the dangers, since I’m an amerilard and just shoot everything that spooks me. But I’m also a distance runner so I’ll share my thoughts about that side of things. 70km is far, but it’s not -that- far. People can and do regularly train to run longer distances in worse conditions. Since you’re already doing 20km/day you’ve got a good start. If I were you I’d keep up with the 20km per day, then add in longer days once per week, building those up slowly to 50km. Increase the distance slowly, and every third week decrease it slightly (for example 25 km, then 28 km, then 24 km, then 27 km, …). I followed a plan like this to train for ultramarathons, but I’ll also point out that I had aid stations with those and I’m not out in the heat for as long. You should plan on staying very early while it’s still cool. And if you’ve trained enough you’ll have enough experience to figure out how much time, food, and water you’d need. You could look find a bunch of ultramarathon training plans online, then just adapt for your purposes. Notably you care about the distance more than the speed. Perhaps instead of speed training you could carry a bunch of extra weight. +--- 2540433 +>>2540387 +>Sure you aren't +I haven't went on hikes where I had food on me. +I walk only in my city,with only my phone,keys and wallet on me. +--- 2540443 +>>2540355 +>will post a picture of it next reply +I couldnt fulfill my promise but this will have to do. +--- 2540782 +>>2540386 +And what do I put the spoon in? Would a multitool work? I have one with a fork and a spoon but it has a taste of metal so it isnt stainless steel. +I was looking for a method for them to stay clean so I don't get food poisoning +--- 2540802 +>>2540391 +Commando is the best if you have appropriate clothes and a supply of ass powder™. +--- 2540840 +>>2540802 +What does commando mean in this context? +Military guy? +--- 2540849 +>>2540840 +It means freeballin anon, let your junk breathe. +--- 2542163 +>>2540350 +>Like 4-5 liters. +How could I carry that in a 30l backpack? +--- 2542166 +>>2540350 +>A headlamp +Would a hand held flashlight work? +--- 2542169 +>>2542163 +Carry it Inna jug in yo hand dawgy g +>>2542166 +Yeah for real +--- 2542172 +>>2540350 +>Toilet kit (TP, hand sanitizer, small trowel to dig a cat hole. just in case) +Can't I just poop on the road? The field beside road is filled with tall grass which reaches my waist +>Maybe a light jacket +I can spend 4 hours during 14celcius temperatures with just a tshirt on and be fine +>Water filter +Why? +>Med kit +I have one with just bandages,like a car medkit which is mandated by law to have in your automobile +>Maybe a tarp or poncho or a space blanket in case you have to spend the night out there. +There are lots of bugs there,how shall one spend the night in such a place? +--- 2542197 +>>2540368 +nu-/out/ doesn't go outside +--- 2542276 +>>2542197 +Man,I just never went on a hike this big. +Normally I just go on long walks in my city. I have never needed another pair of socks. +--- 2542343 +>>2540305 (OP) +I guess you are serious about doing 70km on the same day. +Your clothes should be: +>Antiblister socks +Blisters sucks even more when they get skinned and start bleeding, get some good socks. A cheaper solution is wearing a thin sock, and then a thicker one. It's gonna be hot, so bring at least another pair so you can change to the fresh ones. +>Sporty shorts +Similar to the antiblister socks. Get some shorts/briefs that won't irritate your groin/legs due friction because you walked a shit-ton. Again, bring another one so you can change to the clean ones. +>Cap/Hat +As you said, Sun is in full-power on August. Protecting your face/neck is important. Choose a boonie hat if you can with a lace for your chin. +>Sporty Trainers, Hiking Boots, trekking shoes +You want something that has good cushion. Your main objective is avoid your knees getting fucked up, also stabilize your walking to avoid spraining your ankles. Use them for a week at least to break in before going for the 70km walk. +>Summer trousers and shirt +Trousers that are lightweight and comfortable, your average jogging pants should do the job. Shirt with good breathability. Get another one for changing after hours sweating. +Cont. +--- 2542345 +>>2542343 +Also, bring money and your mobile phone, fully charged. Now, on your backpack: +>Water +Knowing that there are no fountains or streams, carry at least 3 liters of fresh water. I dare to say that you should try to bring even more, 5 or 6. Carry it the way you want. Water canteen, camelback...The easiest way is one or two liters plastic bottles. Do not be afraid to bring 5 or 6 liters. +>Food +Apples and oranges (fruits in general), those will help you to hidrate and obtain a small but quick amount of energy. Curated meat, cheese and bread, make sandwiches so you don't have to stop for cooking. If you wanna cook, bring an alcohol/gas stove and canned food (or a small pot for boiling soup/stew); be wary, this is extra weigh. Sweets like gummy bears and peanuts will give you energy, but also make you thirsty. How many? I don't know, I would bring at least food enough for one day. +>Spare clothes +Said before, an extra pair of socks, another shirt or t shirt and another briefs. It's summer, but just in case, put them on a closed plastic bag, the minimum to protect them from possible rains. +>Medkit +Something easy to use. At least bandage and desinfectant(alcohol) for cuts and bleeding. Medical tape for the blisters and the bandages. Some medicines like ibuprofen for possible pains. Learn how to use them. +>Map (and possibly a compass) +I am sure you already know the way, but in case you get lost or slow and night hits on, map will help you find nearest place to get help or take cover. Use your smartphone, but paper map and compass will always work because those don't use batteries. Learn to navigate land. +>Flashlight with spare battery +Anything, ideally some headlamp because it will let you hands free. +>Rain jacket +Just in case. A light one, no need for a winter jacket. If no rain, you can use it for cutting wind or as an improvised blanket. +>Paper towel/wipes +Keep your arse clean. +>Sun-protecting lotion +30º protection is enough unless you are a pale one. +Cont. +--- 2542346 +>>2542345 +These are optional, but will make your life easier if things go south or you are not capable to make the 70km in the same day: +>Water filtering +This can be a whole world, and also will be useless if there is no water source in the nearby. Water purifier tabs will kill microbes from water. Water filters can do that (sometimes) and also filter impurities like sand or vegetals. The best way to clean water is boiling it first and then filter with active carbon filters, but that's slow and sometimes expensive. +>Blanket/sleeping bag +Sure, summer is fucking hot, but this will make easier to sleep on the ground. Combine it with a sleeping pad/mattress. +>Rain-proof tarp with some ropes and pegs. +For improvising some cover, use trees or bring poles. Ropes with carabiner are easier to use. Learn to make a tent. +>Insect repelant +Get this one from a Chemist/Drug store (or if you dare, from a pet shop). Mosquitoes, flies and ticks suck a lot. +>Walking cane/Trekking poles +Not a must-have, but will make easier to improvise a tent with the tarp. Trekking poles will make easier to distribute your weight when walking, alleviating the effort made by your legs. Also, a last resort weapon against wild dogs. +>Plastic bags +For organising your stuff and possible protection from the rain (you could also use a raincover for the backpack). Consider using a small one for your rubbish (i.e. food envelopes, used wipes), dropping rubbish when /out is uncivilized. +>Sewing kit, duck tape and a lighter +This one can be questionable, but weights next to nothing and will help you to patch up any damage you can get in your backpack or clothes. +>Knife/Cutlery +A pocket one, for cutting bandage or ropes. Even scissors. If you are eating from tin can, bring a way to open it and at least a spoon. +>Toiletry +Besides the toilet paper and wipes, small towel,some deodorant or soap and teethbrush with dental paste. Just if you wanna stay higienic after 70km under a hot summer sun. +Cont. +--- 2542348 +>>2542346 +Some final comments: +>Backpack +A 30L backpack could fit all the stuff said before. Try to fit everything in the backpack and to go for a small walk to check how it goes: weigh distribution, closing/opening lid and zippers when full, comfort, reliability... If you struggle to keep everything inside, go for a bigger one. Above 50L in my opinion is quite overkill. Technically, you could even go without a backpack and carry only a gallon bottle full of vater, but that's risky and stupid. +>Weight +Try to keep the weight on your backpack below 15 kilograms, 10 kilograms would be better. The idea is to put the least effort on your knees. Do not drop essential stuff like water or medkit for saving weight. Pack light, but pack clever +>Walking breaks +Try to walk around 50-60 minutes and then sit down and relax your legs for 5-10 minutes at least. Maybe you are able to walk 4 hours straigh, but you are walking 70km, and in the case that you are walking at 5km/hour nonstop, it would take you 14 hours, overexersizing your muscles are a risk for injuries. Let your muscle relax so they won't fail you in the middle of the trail. +>Time +Schedule your departure at least one hour before Sunrise, so you can get a fresh start. You could try to do at night, but not worth it if you are going to have troubles navigating the land in the darkness. +>Keep somebody in touch +Tell somebody, anybody, that you are going to be out of home for at least a day. Tell where you are going and when you are coming back. Do not try to go out without no telling. Stay in touch via mobile phone in case you get lost or injured and can't keep going on. +>Training +Do legs and back exercises, train resistance, do some cardio. Practice walking without weight, try to go for long distances, do not overexert yourself, specially the week before going 70km. +--- 2542349 +>>2542348 +Well, that's it. Sure there are some things that can be added, but I hope this can help for anyone that wanna walk long distances. +--- 2542362 +>>2540305 (OP) +>hiking poles +>tons of water + water filter +>food +>hat +>trail runners +>headlamp +>windbreaker +that's it, assuming you have where to sleep when you arrive. + +Question, were those restrictive laws a thing already before you becoming part of EU? +--- 2542380 +>>2540305 (OP) +>FYI in Romania,owning a gun as a nonpolitician or police officer is impossible. +never live in a country where this is true. you can only wait for other nations to liberate you if your government goes foul, and most are more likely to plunder. +--- 2542523 +>>2542362 +>Question, were those restrictive laws a thing already before you becoming part of EU? +Honestly? +I don't know for sure about the knife part. +But for owning a gun,you can bet that they were illegal. +My dad told me that one time when he was walking at 8pm,some militiamen(police officers before 1989) stopped him. Theynasked him for his documents and right out of the sudden before even being able to show them one pistol whips him in the back of the head. He falls,they kick him in the head and under the sides of the ribcage(probably going for his liver) until he was unconscious. He wakes up in the middle of the day in the same place they left him to see his wallet,watch,shoes,pants and belt stolen and that he was wet all over. +So probably the laws were just as shit if no shitter then. +--- 2542524 +>>2542380 +>most are more likely to plunder. +Plunder what,concrete rubble? broken windows? Some miniscule amount of copper cables(not stolen by the locals because they were electrified and could not be cut open with the bolt cutter)? +--- 2542802 +>>2542380 +>never live in a country where this is true. +Where have you live then? +--- 2542848 +>>2540305 (OP) +Hey anons. I'm also about to do a similar hike, although opposite conditions. I need to travel around 180km, I am pretty broke, and public transportation is not an option. I'm in good shape, although I am not experienced in camping much. It will be around -1 to -10, although there are many stops along the way with population centers. I have running shoes and steel toe boots, a Walmart sleeping bag rated for 10 Celsius (lol), a butane lightweight camping stove, +A tent (6 person, heavy as fuck, I'm sure that'd kill my spine by the end of it). For backpack options i have 1: a normal backpack from high-school, and a pizza delivery bag that i stole from my pizza delivery job a couple years ago. I can kind of wear the pizza bag as a backpack albeit uncomfortable. I'm going to try to modify it to be comfortable and not spine shattering, maybe add some straps if possible? I'm aware this is stupid, but I have no choice. Any advice is appreciated. I feel I'll be alright temperaturewise for the walk, but I'm not sure about sleep? +--- 2543214 +>>2542848 +Have a bump,this interests me as well +--- 2543223 +I did an 88km hike last summer. Here are my tips, +>Start early, it's easier psychologically if you're there for sunrise and sunset +>Do a couple of longer walks in the run-up (>30km) +>Pack a lot of food, make yourself eat every 30-60 minutes (closer to 30 toward the end), this'll be tough when you're not hungry but if you don't, you'll bonk +>Good foods: nuts, bananas, Snickers + +90% of this is going to be about the condition of your feet and, at some point, you're going to hit a foot pain wall you have to just get through, but: +>Buy blisterpacks (Compeed is the best I've found) +>Get good quality socks and make sure you change them regularly (get a few pairs, dry the ones you're not wearing on the outside of your bag) - Darn Tough is the best brand I've tried +>Pack as light as you possibly can to make it as easy for your feet as possible (this won't be easy for you because you'll need to carry lots of water) +--- 2543892 +>>2543223 +>>Do a couple of longer walks in the run-up (>30km) +Is there a number to do before the big hike? +Do I have to carry a heavy backpack on my shoulders? +What do you mean by run-up? +--- 2544694 +>>2543223 +>Pack a lot of food +What homemade food could I bring with me? +--- 2544706 +>>2542848 +>It will be around -1 to -10 +>10c sleeping bag +At best you're gonna shiver, awake all night at worst you will freeze with that setup. Find a warmer option. Get some kind of sleeping mat to keep you up off the ground also. Even a thin piece of foam is better than lying directly on the ground when it comes to warmth. +>6 person tent +If that's all you've got then you'd probably be better off just taking the rain fly from it and some cordage to set it up like a tarp. +>Steel toe boots +Do not try to cover that distance in steel toes. +As for your backpack situation unless you can sew actual shoulder straps and maybe even a hip strap onto the pizza bag you're better off with the bookbag. + +My honest advice? I'd you have no way of improving your gear situation then it's probably best to reassess and find a better way to cover that distance. +--- 2545655 +>>2540305 (OP) + +I once hiked 70 KM(there and back) in 14 hours on an empty stomach(had only 1 carrot, was fasting and taking antihelminths). My legs were raw af after that. Couldn't walk normally for 2 weeks. +--- 2546010 +>>2540305 (OP) +--- 2546145 +>>2540305 (OP) +Take the quarterstaff pill and see if you can get a small cheap spearhead to fit on top of it. Or at least hammer some metal caps onto the ends to make it more hurty. But otherwise bring a small knife, wet wipes, water filter, a lighter, socks, comfortable clothes (baselayer, midlayer, top layer and a wind/water resistant layer), hammock+ tarp. +--- 2546290 +>>2540305 (OP) +You are going to want to start walking a couple of kilometers a day toughen up your feet. +There wont be much skin left on the otherwise +--- 2547053 +>>2540305 (OP) +I have done something similar a few years ago walking about 95km in a day on flat terrain and with good conditions tough. + +Here are my tips : +_Travel light, if I recall correctly i only had a backpack with a few kgs of food and water +_Be comfortable hiking something like 40km without feeling exhausted +_Bring some music and podcasts to pass the time +_Of course, wear comfortable hiking shoes +_Take small brakes every 10kms +_If your muscles are too sore from walking, try to run at small pace. At around 85kms, walking was too painful for me so I started to run making the pain much more bearable. + +Good luck +--- 2547380 +I just went back from a 40km run/hike from 8pm to 3am. +The idea was to train for a marathon but halfway through my feet began killing me and I couldn't run anymore. +This was honestly in my top 5 most painful experiences in my whole life (besides illnesses I never did anything as painful voluntarily). +Once I reached the 20km mark I was committed because there are no buses around those parts at night and I didn't bring my phone to call a taxi. +Even though I warned my mom I'd be out for a while, she got worried and if I wasn't back by 5am she was gonna go to the cops (and leave me locked out of the house because I didn't bring a key). +I only got back by resting every couple hundred meters on bus stops, and untying my shoes and tying them to the other strings on the same side as losely as possible so I wouldn't trip. +For hydration I brought a cheap camelback I bought years ago but I had it tuned up from a couple previous runs, otherwise it'd be even more hellish to adjust all the straps while also dealing with my feet. +Up to km 15 it was pretty fun. Which is weird because on my previous runs 15km was grueling. Lately been running at day though but today I wanted to get a run in since I've been busy and I wanted to make it count... maybe a little bit too much. +If your motivation is too high then you're gonna come crashing at full speed against your physical limits. +So if you want to train your pain tolerance then go without much training and without an easy way to quit. If you don't want to have a grueling painful experience then train very gradually and always have a way to quit. +Honestly I didn't think it was gonna be that bad but I don't mind what happened because I was never in that much actual danger, only extreme discomfort that I had to push through but that only makes you stronger. +After two strong ibuprofen pills the pain mostly went away for now. In a few hours I'm supposed to go to work lol we'll see. +I'm too weak for the david goggins "earned this pain" crap. +--- 2547443 +>>2547380 +>>2547380 +How fat are you? +I am 130lbs at 5'8 +FYI I am a man,if you think that my weight and height resemble a woman's +--- 2547457 +>>2547443 +176cm 71kg +--- 2547661 +>>2544706 +Found a better way. Still had to sleep in -16 with the sleeping bag for a night in a car, but was able to scrounge up the cash for a bus. The bag worked quite nicely actually, but it probably would've killed if I had actually had to walk the distance. And yeah, I only brought the tarp part of the tent, left the pegs. Bag was still heavy as fuck though + +Picrel is bag lol +--- 2547843 +>>2547661 +Idk why, or what, but I was picturing something different when you said pizza bag. Good to see you made it tho. +--- 2547850 +If it's 40 degrees Celsius out you're going to get heat stroke and die probably. Youd need to bring 5 litres of water with you but not all to drink, some just to pour on a clothe wrapped around your head so the evaporation keeps you cool. You can die from dehydration, you can also die from over-hydration, this is what the electrolyte powders are for, they are salts that you lose through sweating.. it makes you thirsty but your body really needs these special salts, if you lose too much of the salts drink too much, the water will go to your brain where it is more salty, causing it to swell and you can die. Also if you lose salts you can get crippling muscle cramps which will leave you in agony unable to move . + +Really this walk sounds very dangerous and too long, there are so many things you may need to run from but you may be running very low on energy by the time you encounter one of them. + +Really as another anon said if you have to ask and dont know what electrolytes are, there are other important things that you are too naive about at this stage. + +What you need to do is do similar walks up to august, increasing the length alongside the increasing heat and learn along the way. + +You talk about walking 10-20km in the city, try walking 20km to 30km in the country now before you even dream of doing 70km in august in the heat . +--- 2547851 +>>2547850 +More water than that actually. There are guidelines on this. Also make sure to tell people what you are doing and where and when you are going so they know if you go missing to call someone to look for your ass. Also where are you going to stay? And dont bring sugar packets bring normal food +Also could you just mountain bike instead would be more realistic and fun +--- 2547881 +>>2540312 +--- 2547886 +>>2547661 +Amazing. Glad you made it anon. Can I ask what situation or choice led you to have to do this? Are you American? +--- 2548004 +>>2547886 +Thanks! Canadian. Had to sell my car to pay a speeding ticket before I could join the air force, in a pretty weird living situation while I wait for them to send me off. The reason I had to travel is that I had to take the CFAT, but the only location where I could do so was about an hour or so away (driving) and I didn't have a way back. +>>2547843 +lol yeah I guess I wasn't very descriptive. I used to work as a pizza delivery driver and when I forgot a delivery bag in my car, when I quit they never asked for it back and I'm pretty sure they got new ones anyways so I just never gave it back. For a while I used it to hold my highway emergency kit, its a great bag, surprisingly. The insulation helps to keep my back straight so I'm not hunching with who knows how much weight on my back. +--- 2548103 +>>2547851 +>mountain bike +Never had a bike +--- 2548147 +>>2540305 (OP) +I once walked 50km and it took me half a night and whole day. And I was acustomed to 30km walks with backpack almost every weekend. That was probably because I had no sleep that night. I imagine if I started rested this could be 60km easily and then I would drag myself the remaining distance because out of spite. Those days are long gone though +--- 2548163 +How the hell is this nibba going to survive with just 2-5 litres of waters (as some of you have suggested) for a 70 km walk in fucking 40 degrees? Since he is Romanian he is of course a poorfag and can't afford camel backs, so his best option is fall back on the national sport of robbing. In this case, long before you start your hike you should rob a fellow hiker, your best bet are tourists. Watch for long drinking straws going from his backpack and attached to the carry straps that is easy access to his mouth. If you are lucky you will score one 2 litre camel back. If the Romanian shitskin gods of robbery and horsefucking smile on you he will have two 3 litre camel backs. Stash as many as you can, preferably so it adds up to 10-12 litres at least. You are going to look like a retard but that comes with being a filthy Romanian in the first place. A half litre bottle of soda for quick energy, one camel back with electrolytes, the others with water. Tortillia wraps with peanut butter and jam for quick energy. + +Good luck, I hope you gypsy fuck die along with your whole country. +--- 2548648 +>>2548163 +Bro,nobody goes where I am going +There are absolutely 0 tourists +I honestly don't even know how peanut butter tastes like as I've never seen it +The fuck is a camel back? +--- 2548778 +>>2548648 +Learn to use google, gypsy. +--- 2548860 +>>2540305 (OP) +Hello, memory. Also where the fuck in Romania do you get 40 degrees celsius in August? I know of very few cases. As for shit you can carry, you live in Romania, not in the fallout franchise. Just bring a knife with you if you feel like it. No policeman is gonna give you shit for it if you say you're going /out/. As other anons said, get some high energy food, have a look at any water sources nearby and pack light. Don't be so worried about randos , be worried about your own ability to get there. Happy walking. +--- 2549235 +>>2548860 +>Hello, memory. +What? +--- 2549577 +>>2540305 (OP) +why don't you just bicycle through +walking is so inefficient in flat terrain +--- 2549628 +>>2549577 +I don't own a bicycle +--- 2550253 +>>2548860 +>Also where the fuck in Romania do you get 40 degrees celsius in August +South of the carpathians,that's for sure +--- 2550296 +>>2548860 +All registered temperatures are done so in the shadow. 40°C is very commonly felt all over Romania. Southern Romania in July-August is similar to Nevada in September +--- 2550302 +>>2549628 +take atleast a liter of vodka with you, that will save yoy many liters of water in the long run and you will walk faster too +if there is water on the way all the better you can top off then +--- 2550309 +>>2550302 +Its dry wasteland bro +--- 2550312 +>>2550309 +as i said it will save you many liters of water in the long run, most people hike while drunk and save water at the same time +--- 2550680 +>>2550302 +>>2550312 +Why would being drunk save water +if anything it dehydrates you +--- 2550949 +>>2550680 +Probably trying to kill me +--- 2551932 +>>2550302 +Why? +--- 2552565 +Op ... +--- 2554050 +Bumping +--- 2554376 +>>2554050 +This fucking thread. /out/ jannies ban me for telling the truth but let this thread exist. Please fuck yourselves, jannies. +--- 2555209 +>>2554376 +What truth do you have to tell, weary traveller? +--- 2555260 +>>2540305 (OP) +Bagami-as pula-n ma-ta de LARP prost si handicapat. +Nu calci din casa cu anii si te plangi de carbohidranti zahar si alte tampenii. +Cainii aia cu rabie sa o sa te manance ca nu ai conditie fizica si probabil alergi ca o pizda. +Las-ai sa te omoare, nu o sa iti duca nimeni lipsa. +--- 2555263 +>>2540305 (OP) +70km is too much +--- 2555264 +>>2555263 +Bullshit. I say it's not too much enough. +--- 2555588 +>>2547380 +Since I recovered surprisingly well last time (in about 2 days the pain was almost gone) I'm thinking I might do this again today, or leave it for tomorrow morning so I can come back during daylight, but in that case I have to wake up really fucking early. Like at 3 am, and then push myself to keep running and ignore the excruciating pain. +Because it is really fucking sketchy running in the middle of the night through rural roads. +Last week I went out for a run and my nipples began to hurt at like the 10km mark so I'll have to put some kind of tape over them and carry bandaids with me. +--- 2555819 +>>2555588 +I did it and holy shit, I am so proud of myself. +Apparently I went from a 7:00 to a 4:25 in less than a month. +I cheated a little because I chugged painkillers on the way, and I added a bit of salt and potassium to my water, but still. I did it fasted as well, don't remember the last time I ate but at least 15 hours. +I think the snake juice saved me from a cramp. I felt some weird twiches on the back of my leg, so I gulped down the water and it went away. +--- 2555827 +Get a fucking bicycle +--- 2557579 +LOL, what a fag +--- 2559388 +>>2540305 (OP) +>>2540309 +>>2540310why are you larping everyone is obese here +--- 2561908 +>>2560329 +>Can’t help you with the walk but for the dogs, perhaps carry some firework you can use to scare them off? +They are RABID,meaning they have RABIES +The only way to solve this problem is to kill them or do something so their legs don't work +>Otherwise throwing stones and carrying a staff would be your best bet. +Stones are rare as the locals have all stolen them off the very limited number of gravel roads in that region which is supposed to be 3 but in actuallity has only some small pockets of stones +What kind of staff? (Which also won't get me in trouble with the local police) +--- 2562366 +>>2561908 +I've made stones out of mud. Just bake at 375 for an hour. +--- 2564077 +>>2562366 +There are only mud ovens here +--- 2564152 +>>2540305 (OP) +Make a gun. If a cop gives you shit just shoot him. Thats what guns are for after all. +--- 2564828 +>>2540433 +After half the hike you have passed the PONR and the last third will be worse than the two before, so be sure that you could stand that distance. +Be, at least, comfortable to do your grocerie hauls thrice a day. +Olives are probably good to go for you, maybe cheese +--- 2564870 +Don't know if anyone mentioned this above but if you come along houses or people you can just ask them for water. Almost everyone will give some to you. +--- 2564993 +>>2564870 +If you touch my gate i will blast your balls off. +--- 2565006 +>>2548648 +>Europe +>no tourists +Lmao +--- 2565009 +>>2555260 +Aspru dar corect +--- 2565010 +>>2540355 +OP your pivot to self defence scenarios when discussing what gear you should be carrying is completely retarded. Tell me who do you think is after you that they will ambush you without you being able to take off your backpack. + +Don’t get me started on the trek poles to fight away wolves. Who are your opps brother? +--- 2565022 +>>2542848 +>temperature will be -1 to -10 +>” Walmart sleeping bag rated for 10 Celsius” + +abort mission, this is your last hike John Doe. I will see your pictogram in the nudey mag +--- 2565122 +>>2565022 +>August +> 40° days +>-10° nights +In Romania? Doubt. +--- 2565201 +>>2548648 +>I honestly don't even know how peanut butter +How come? Even in Romania, unless you are in the sticks, you should see it at any supermarket. +How backwards is your country really? +A camelbak is just a rubber bladder that people use to carry water and honestly it sucks sucking water through a straw. +You're better off with individual water bottles, but desu you don't need 12L of water for a 70K hike. Assuming you maintain a pace of 5kmh you should finish it in less than 18h so that's a day of walking, 8L should be more than enough and safe. + +Seriously disregard people telling you to carry lots of stuff, you want to go as light as possible to reach your destination as fast as you can. Carry water, food, some small sugar/salt packets, a hat, comfortable footwear and get going. + +If the terrain is flat then that distance is pretty achievable, if no protection at all from the sun maybe carry an umbrella, it works as dog protection too. + +Also post maps or photos of the area. Good luck. +--- 2566440 +>>2540331 +>>Trust me, they are useful even on flat land +>why? +The wild dogs you retard +--- 2566530 +>>2547443 +>if you think that my weight and height resemble a woman's +They really do. How the fuck do you live your life like that? Have you ever managed to sleep with a woman without paying her first? +--- 2566534 +>>2566530 +59kg at 173cm is indeed light weight, but not out of the ordinary for young people. He'll grow, don't worry. +--- 2566631 +>>2566440 +alternatively he could use one of those ultrasound devices, they are quite efficient at least against solitary watchdogs +--- 2568005 +>>2565122 +There aren't any walmarts in Romania +--- 2568020 +>>2566631 he is a troll diff --git a/out/2540957.txt b/out/2540957.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..392f226125323409be49f31e6ad83fba9ecc9bcc --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2540957.txt @@ -0,0 +1,582 @@ +----- +--- 2540957 +Do you guys hunt with PCP airguns or take them with you when you go outside? +What airgun do you have or what it's your favorite? +I'm planning on buying one to hunt rabbits and some birds. +--- 2541063 +got me a co2 going to upgrade it with a 20" barrel and a stock to make it a little rifle with a scope. +--- 2541075 +>>2540957 (OP) +Airgun hunting is max comfy. I hunt rabbits with a .177 FX Cyclone and JSB Monster 13.4gr. +--- 2541282 +Why air guns ? +As a cucked European i have no idea. +Are there advantages to regular guns or is it about laws ? +--- 2541284 +>>2541282 +Air guns are not firearms in law, so you can get away with a lot more. +My air rifle has a suppression system built into it, it sounds like a cough when I fire it. +I use it to kill rabbits mostly. +--- 2541310 +>>2541282 +There is no advantage a PCP has over 22lr that isn't based on the fact that they are not legally firearms. The guns are more expensive and the cost of filling tanks or buying special compressor far outweigh the cost of a 22lr. You're looking at like $6-8 hundred initial investment plus running cost for entry level PCP. I'd love one but the cost just doesn't work out unless you live in some overly restrictive shithole. They do look very fun tho. I have a springer and a piston and that will likely be it for my air gunning unless the price comes down significantly and given the economies of scale I don't see that happening. +--- 2541471 +>>2541310 +>Special compressor +Imagine being such a beta cuck that you don't own an air-compressor or pneumatic tools. +>>2541284 +This. You can buy an Airforce Texan that is basically a sniper rifle with zero firearm restrictions and you can even get fully auto PcP. It's a massive loophole in the liberal retardation referred to as "gun control" +--- 2541475 +>>2541282 +Air guns are much cheaper per-round and if you live within the city limits there are less legal penalties for firing them at things like Starlings, crows and rats. The PCP rifles can be suppressed so they're usually quieter and PcPs have are cheaper if you already have a compressor (like every real man should). +--- 2541483 +>>2541475 +>>2541471 +You can't pump these PCP guns with a normal air tool compressor dumbass. That's why ppl need to take it to a dive shop or have one of those high pressure expensive compressors that are like 500 bucks to fill. If they did work off your little craftsman compressor then of course they'd be more popular than they are. +--- 2541495 +>>2541483 +>or have one of those high pressure expensive compressors that are like 500 bucks to fill +>calls someone else a dumbass +A vertical compressor with good pressure is exactly what he's referring to, moron. Guys who are handy and who don't live in tiny efficiency pods in the middle of a concrete wasteland will nearly always have a vertical, high-pressure compressor. Your reference to a dive shop alone (an auto garage would do) is a dead giveaway of a west coast urbanoid with no life or practical skills. + +- t. working engineer/fabricator +--- 2541502 +>>2541310 +>or buying special compressor +LMAO +thee things are like 40 dollars in aliexpress, are very easy to use and have good quality +--- 2541503 +>>2541483 +>You can't pump these PCP guns with a normal air tool compressor dumbass +Retard, I've been using these things for like 7 years and use these >>2541502 +Now I have a venturi avenger and works fine +--- 2541520 +>>2541503 +>>2541502 +How much time does it take you to pump up to usable pressure? How many shots do you get per charge? +--- 2541521 +>>2541483 +>I am poor, don't know anything about tools and am a beta-cuck +>>2541495 +Based compressor chad. +--- 2541523 +>>2541520 +It varies by rifle/caliber. +It will tell you in the rifle specs. +--- 2541532 +>>2541495 +Those standard shop compressors are like a couple hundred psi at best. Not suitable for PCP filling. Now go look at the price of a compressor that meets the pressure requirement for PCP. Regardless you retards are proving my point in that even if the common shop compressor was usable how many fucking ppl have access to one such that it makes owning a PCP cheaper than a 22lr? Even if you buy entry level everything you could get a very nice rimfire for the price. +--- 2541549 +>>2541532 +>I'm poor +You can get a high pressure air compressor for like 300 USD. The hand pump is like 40 bucks. +10,000 rounds of .22LR averages $700 USD +10,000 rounds of .177 pellets averages $150 USD + +Basically I can buy a PcP and a high pressure air compressor for less than you'll pay in ammo and then I can charge Scuba and Paintball fags to fill up their shit and eventually the compressor will pay for itself. +--- 2541577 +>>2541520 +20 minutes of pumping for 20 shots. After that pellet have less power and are not really flying where you want them. + +Btw. you should not pump it fast because pump can overheat and wont last long. + +Good PCP airgun costs like 800€. Then you can either buy pump for another 150-200€ or air bottle for 300-400€. Then you need to find someone who will fill it obviously. + +So yeah, PCP will solve the recoil and noise of 400€ springer but replace it with other obligations. + +https://youtu.be/7qcdDazxxXY?t=306 [Embed] +--- 2541579 +>>2541577 +Also, good luck shooting something after going through gym +--- 2541594 +>>2541577 +>>2541579 +>€ +Europoor confirmed +The irony here is you can't even own a .22 in Europe without a costly loicens. +Your post makes obvious you don't know shit about guns at all. +--- 2541603 +>>2541594 +Gun license cost 500€ + lets say 1000€ for proper gun that shoots real ammo, its still better deal than buying PCP airgun. + +Did you enjoyed your pumping today? +--- 2541612 +pic related, multipump, it's fun, it's cheap, ammo is cheap, load single hunting pellets if needed +this won't get outlawed with new laws (in USA) +--- 2541623 +>>2541612 +cute +--- 2541652 +>>2541549 +Lol, lmao even. Your best defense is to call me poor while not being able to provide a single evidence that pcp has anything over 22lr, whether that be cost or performance. The only thing PCP has going for it is to be able to say legally it isn't a firearm, which I conceed is a valid concern for some people. But for anyone besides ppl from nations with cucked gun laws it's not worth it and represents paying drastically more for worse in every regard. +--- 2541653 +>>2541612 +I would prefer a spring/piston over pump. Only place pump makes sense is basement range with bullet trap for indoor fun. +--- 2541656 +>>2541594 +What counter do you have to his argument besides calling him poor? He has laid out the ridiculous relative cost of getting into even entry level (but still good) PCP. There is literally no benefit other than to avoid legality of dealing with actual firearms. +--- 2541668 +>>2541653 +multi pump is nice because you can pump once or many times, it's adjustable which I think it's better than spring +--- 2541671 +>>2540957 (OP) +I don't know what pcp is, but I used to like the idea of getting these pump-action compressed air rifles. They're cheaper than guns, and don't require any legal shenanigans. I've shot a few and they're strong enough to hunt birds +--- 2541673 +>>2541671 +Dam I forgot the image +--- 2541693 +>>2541671 +It stands for pre charged pneumatic it's basically got an air tank just like a paint ball gun. +--- 2541695 +There are 3 types +>1) simple like this >>2541673 +you "break" the rifle and only have one shot, you break and reload, very quick and easy +>2) the one OP posted +that is charged with these >>2541502 , you can shot an average of 25-30 shots per rifle depending on the pellet and rifle, sometimes those fuckers aren't so easy to charge if you are a sissy +>3) rifles that use scuba +pic related, multishots, haven't used those + + +The calibers are .177 .22 .25 and .30 and 9mm +In my experience, I have used these + +>.177 you can kill birds and some rabbits if you hit them in the right place but also your rifle needs good fps +>.22 +perfect for any bird and you can also kill rabbits, foxes, dogs, etc. I've know people that have killed boars and pigs but shooting under the ribs or with a headshot with a powerful rifle +>.25 +birds are a mess after a shot them if you don't aim for the head. You kill rabits and other small animals no matter where you shoot. Perfect to hunt the same things that using .22 but have much more power and I personally like to use them when it rains or there are too much wind so the traectory isn't affected +>.30 +massacre birds, to the rest of animals only aim for the head, a boar is no problem for this rifle + +never tried 9mm +--- 2541707 +>>2541695 +Oh the gamo air rifles that break like that are no longer 1 shot. +They have a 10 round mag now, standard. +--- 2541769 +>>2541656 +newfag +>>2541549<--pcp is cheaper +>>2541652 +Why are you insist on lying? +--- 2541788 +>>2541668 +The only thing the pump guns are good for is when you want to piss off your friend or scare the neighbor’s cat. Single pump is much better that 20 pumps. + +I like that co2 Crosman 1077 though. Don’t know if they still make them. Not as powerful as the spring piston ones, but it feels like plinking with a cheap .22 short rifle and I took out a opossum with it once. +--- 2541790 +>>2541495 +>working engineer +>thinks 150psi vertical compressor is higher pressure than a 150psi pancake compressor +Weak. + +Also it’s kind of gay listening to you guys arguing about this. Air rifles are fun because you can plink a squirrel in a suburban area without getting arrested, also you can convince your mom to get you a 1000fps gun when you’re 14 and tell her it’s just like a Red Ryder. +--- 2541804 +>>2541790 +Of course air rifles are hella fun. But once you get into PCP it just gets obscene level expensive, where as you can buy a Savage MK II for 300 bucks on a bad day at terrible price. I guess like that one faggot says the price to get into it initially is higher but at some point the pellet gun would end up being cheaper than a 22lr but it would take years to even reach the break even point. +--- 2541807 +>>2541549 +Shut the fuck up you are not going to start a side business pumping scuba and paintball you utter faggot. Just admit you would pay $500 for the gun and another $300 for the pump at the end of which you will not even come close to holding up to a $800 22lr. Not even a $400 one shooting good ammo. It'd take you years, likely decades to reach the break even point and have the PCP begin to be cheaper. +--- 2541809 +Ok back on topic what's everybody hunting with? Anybody got experience with the Diana Storm models for shit like squirrel and rabbit? +--- 2541882 +Also how are you faggots noticing your impact due to low temps or just general temp swings throughout the day? +--- 2541906 +I've been shooting PCPs for about a year, bought my first PCP last march, since then I haven't stopped, I've gone shooting nearly every odd weekend since then. In the left it's my .22 cal Artemis Pr900 and in the right my .25 cal Effecto PX-5. + +>>2541310 +They DO have an advantage though, most PCP air rifles are dead nuts accurate, even the cheapest ones. There's a steep initial investment but after that you can shot for very cheap. + +>>2541502 +Yeah but you get a hell of a workout with anything but the smallest reservoirs. My gun had a 275cc cylinder, and after trying to pump it twice and nearly popping a vein I resigned and bought a tank. + +>>2541809 +I have an Artemis PR900 (the same thing really), regulated model, shoots around 22-24 ft/lbs. Mine has been wonderful, very accurate (single ragged hole at 35m), shots decently whatever you put it thru, mine likes JSB 18gr the best, but shoots 15gr JSB and crossman domed decently too. +--- 2541965 +>>2541804 +I’m with you 50%. Depends on your locale. In Illinois, any air rifle >700fps velocity and >.177cal requires a FOID card, so you’re going through the exact same bullshit as buying a real .22 rifle. +--- 2541988 +>>2541906 +What advantage does the regulated version give you? How had does the velocity and accuracy drop off between the first and last shot before your air runs out. I saw some posts online that shows the muzzle velocity dropping like several hundred FPS between the earlier and final shots. +--- 2542007 +>>2541284 +>Air guns are not firearms in law, +Some one needs to tell the Australian's this. +--- 2542108 +>>2542007 +Also Canada for anything over 500 fps. +--- 2542148 +>>2541804 +>PCP is more expensive +I literally isn't you brain dead retard +The math is in this thread and you're just straight up stupid. +You keep repeating the same lie as if it hasn't been debunked. +>>2541549 +>>2541807 +Just admit you suck at basic math hand haven't even come close to refuting the math that debunks your retarded assertion that PcP is more expensive. It isn't--you're just retarded. + +You also keep lying about the prices. so we've established you're a liar and retarded. +--- 2542154 +>>2540957 (OP) +Had an FAC one of these in the UK. It's good as it comes apart and fits in my bag, took down some small game but wouldn't use it over an actual rifle +--- 2542248 +>>2542154 +>UK +>aktual rifle +I use the pellet rifle more than anything else because it's cheaper by far and I hunt a lot of invasive species like starlings, crows and rabbits. I also have something most Europeans don't: land and hunting access. +--- 2542265 +>>2541988 +Flatter shooting curve, which translates into better 'vertical' accuracy. As the pressure drops the velocity of the pellet decreases, giving you a lower POI. Some guns actually shoot faster with a lower pressure than max fill pressure (say, max fill pressure is 250 BAR, but the gun shoots the fastest at 200) because of less resistance of the hammer hitting the valve. + +A regulator "regulates" the air pressure into a lower level (usually 100-130 bar) so more, lower pressure air can be used for shooting. They maintain a more or less equal pressure along the shot string until the tank pressure reaches the regulator pressure. + +Nowadays most newer airguns are regulated, it has become standard in the market. One of the few $500+ airguns that are still unregulated is the Benjamin Cayden, but it still achieves a somewhat consistent velocity thanks to other tricks. +--- 2542281 +>>2542148 +I'm trying to do the math here. + +Using American prices and shops: + +- FX Dreamline .25 with Walnut stock: $1280 +- 78cu CF Tank: $390 +- 1000 rounds of FX Hybrid Slugs: $128 ($16 each with 2 free from Pyramid Air) $0.128 per round. +Total: $1798 + +- CZ 427 Varmint: $650 +- Silencerco Sparrow 22: $299 +- 1000 rounds of Eley Subsonic HP: $199 +Total: $1240 + +Fixed cost delta is $558 +Recurring cost delta is $7.2 per 100 rounds. + +If you shoot 200 rounds every weekend, you'd save in ammo with an air rifle $748,8 a year ($14.4 * 52), meaning in 10 months the air rifle would have been cheaper. + +Sure, you can not buy a supressor for the rimfire, but the FX Dreamline comes with a supressor, which does have its advantages. You could shoot cheaper ammo with the 22lr, but so could you with the FX Dreamline, shooting pellets. +--- 2542285 +>>2542248 +In bong land it absolutely makes sense to get a PCP. +--- 2542292 +>>2542281 +In burgerand there is also multi month wait times to get a suppressor plus a $200 tax in addition to the cost of the supp. Also fun fact although air guns are not legally firearms on a federal level, in many cities and towns they are considered so and it is technically illegal to discharge them in town, though enforcement probably varies and that depends on who hears or notices in the first place. +--- 2542303 +>>2542248 +>>2542285 +I was assuming OP was in the US. +FAC air rifle is the best way to go in the UK, if you get one that can come apart easily then you just throw it in your bag then you can get most game here easy +--- 2542315 +How does temps affect these guns? Where I am it's not unheard of for like 20 degrees or more of temp swings between early morning and afternoon +--- 2542317 +>>2542315 +With CO2 there's temperature issues, but I have never noticed any issue in my PCP air rifles. +--- 2542381 +>>2541906 +PR900 regulated is beautiful, I used it for several years before selling it, I almost bought it again to hunt this season (starts in april) but I think I'm going to buy the M16 5.5 instead. +--- 2542402 +>>2542381 +Where are you from? +--- 2542416 +>>2542292 +>he pays the cuck stamp and waits the time +Lol +--- 2542423 +>>2541282 +OP can't legally obtain a firearm is the only reason. +--- 2542426 +>>2542423 +He can buy black powder firearms, if feeling spicy he can get conversion kits to hold modern cartridges. +--- 2542427 +>>2542426 +Most places you can't just buy black powder though. +--- 2542430 +>>2542427 +You can have it shipped directly to your door, but you need to use either FedEx or UPS, Fedex IMO, fuck UPS. +--- 2542700 +>>2542281 +The PcP savings will eclipse the .22lr in two to three years depending on how much you shoot. 200 rounds a weekend is 10,400 rounds a year. I've had my 22 for over 20 years and no contest the PcP cost in that time is exponentially less. +--- 2542704 +>>2542292 +Most cities have ordinances against hunting or discharging projectiles in the city limits. +>>2542416 +>Fedposting +--- 2542903 +>>2542402 +South america +--- 2542914 +>>2542903 +I'm from South America as well. Chile? +--- 2542917 +>>2542914 +Yes +are you spying me? +--- 2542919 +>>2542917 +No. I know our hunting season starts in April, that's all. + +Wanna go hunting? What do you hunt? +--- 2542945 +>>2542919 +Liebres, caiquenes, pato jergon (they aren't so common in my zone) and some other birds. I know that people in my region has hunted boars and deers but never tried it because I only go for small animals and don't have dogs. I have a rifle 6.35 too and wold like to try but seems like a dumb idea since I need a plan and time to explore new zones. +I'm from the XI region btw. +--- 2542955 +>>2542945 +Damn cool, I'm from Santiago so mostly hunt rabbits, tortolas and codornices, around here or a bit further south near Talca. + +I wanna hunt deer sometime, and maybe go to Tierra del Fuego and hunt beavers, that's kinda my dream. I have two air rifles and also I'm buying a u/o shotgun shortly. +--- 2542962 +>>2542700 +How has your find held up in that time. Do you get caught lacking against the new developments or is it pretty much like rimfire where it's the same shit basically. +--- 2542963 +>>2542700 +Yeah I'm sure after a few years it's worth it. How often do you have to replace fill tanks and shit I see ppl posting on air gun forums about that shit going bad and compressors being rebuild after a few years too. Honestly the PCP thing seems really cool but it also seems like a lot of additional investment and upkeep +--- 2542967 +For mostly hunting would something like Diana Storm Rider or Beeman Chief 2 suffice? Or should I pony up some cash for a venturi avenger? I don't care about rate of fire our squirrel limit is only 6 a day so I would be down with whatever is super accurate and light. The flimsy looking barrels on the chief and rider has me worried. +--- 2542968 +>>2542955 +Very nice. Just noticed the can of cerveza cristal in the pic >>2541906 lmao. I don't know how did I miss that. +also, my favorite poston to use with the PR was the JSB of 15gr, best by far in my experience +You should definitely come to these zones some day, the XI or the XII region, they are beautiful. +--- 2542971 +So does anyone in this thread actually own and shoot PCP? If you do post em so we can oogle +--- 2543151 +>>2542971 +yes, the one on the left is one of the most economic and effective >>2541906 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FClBXyXm8s&ab_channel=TyroneMclaren [Embed] +excellent to small game hunting +--- 2543463 +>>2541471 +>You can buy an Airforce Texan that is basically a sniper rifle with zero firearm restrictions +>dude it's so cool it looks like a sniper rifle +The .50 caliber version can reach 800 ft-lbs, which you can reasonably achieve with .357 magnum from a 6" revolver, and the later will have a flatter trajectory and may hold more rounds in the cylinder than you'd get consistent shots on a single fill with the Airforce Texan. Small bore airguns are cool for cheap shooting, but big bore airguns are absolutely a fucking meme and well beyond the point of diminishing returns. +--- 2543538 +>>2543463 +>would use the 50 cal +no, already you have lost all credibility +The only good 50cal is an M2, the rest are total shit especially the "sniper" rifles in 50 cal. The only people that hunt 50 cal are black powder larpers. +Please stop talking about guns--you don't know shit about shit. +--- 2543655 +>>2543538 +You misread the post esl retard. He is saying a 6in 357 mag revolver will btfo any 50 cal air rifle. +--- 2543729 +>>2543655 +The irony is palpable. +The post you replied to states that 50cal is a shit caliber to use as a benchmark for anything. The comparison isn't just invalid it outs whoever is even talking about 50 cal as obviously not knowing anything about rifles. +Feel bad about having a worse reading comprehension than an ESL and feel even worse for talking out your ass about something you clearly know nothing about. +--- 2544334 +>>2541063 +great, I love these types of guns +--- 2545956 +bump +--- 2546980 +what should I buy if I have a budget of 3.000 USD +--- 2547489 +>>2541790 +Might be off topic from the thread but I'm a carpenter and never understood why they make so many types of air compressor? Used to use a pancake compressor but now I have a little one gallon quiet hot dog for trim jobs and a double cylinder 4 gallon for framing. Why not just make one cylinder? But there's also vertical compressor. I'm more curious than anything +--- 2547532 +>>2546980 +a rifle +--- 2547540 +>>2546980 +A nice 22lr and a very nice scope with a shit ton of ammo to go with it. +--- 2548333 +>>2541671 +>they're strong enough to hunt birds +I've hunt rabbits with mine as well. +--- 2548485 +>>2547540 +stop posting +your embarrassingly stupid +--- 2548489 +>>2547489 +The tool companies got together with the compressor companies and decided modular wasn't profitable. The scuba and paintballers use the high pressure and the three levels of the lower pressure are industrial, auto, home and maritime* +scuba and maritime aren't the same. +--- 2548498 +>>2546980 +I went over a bit but it's fine +--- 2548674 +>>2540957 (OP) +Never owned an airgun before, looking to buy a handgun airgun for casual target practice, my priority is accuracy up to maybe around 80 yards (73 meters), I'd prefer to have one that requires pumping as lugging around and buying CO2 cartridges or another propellant system sounds like a pain and another thing to worry about. Are there any decent options that can be bought brand new for under $120 USD or so? I don't care about the calibre, not going to be hunting. +--- 2548676 +>>2548674 +(I didn't mean to type 'pumping', in particular. I just meant that I didn't want one that had to be propelled with something that had to be bought and/or carried separately) +--- 2548988 +>>2540957 (OP) +Owned many different airguns, PCP, spring and gas-ram. Hunted with them extensively. Picrel (Weihrauch HW95K) is still my favourite for hunting. +--- 2549000 +>>2548988 +is that... is that a suppressor? +on an air gun...? +--- 2549020 +>>2549000 +Yeah, airguns can be loud as hell. They are not a firearm either, so you can just slap on one if you are in the usa. +--- 2549033 +>>2549000 +all of them use supressors, pic related for example has it hidden in the barrel +If I don't use the supressor when I'm hunting my rifle is very loud and the animals can notice me from around 60mts when I shoot +--- 2549044 +>>2548674 +diana stormrider gen 2 would be the perfect rifle for you because is the best for starters and also cheap +--- 2549049 +>>2549044 +*the best for starters because +>simple design +>the weight its around 4.5 pounds +>great accuracy +>multishots +>easy to fill with a pump like >>2541502 +--- 2549384 +>>2541475 +What the fuck are you shooting at random crows for you fucking imbecile? +--- 2549395 +Fun fact +Lewis and Clark took an airgun on their famous expedition +--- 2549406 +>muh suppressors on spring rifles are pointless because when I fire my spring rifle, which has a suppressor fitted, I hear the rifle's internal mechanisms quite loudly. + + +Suppressors don't suppress a rifle's internal mechanisms. They suppress the muzzle report so that you can fire at multiple targets without scaring them away immediately with your first shot. +--- 2549518 +>>2540957 (OP) +I sometimes sit in my backyard with an air rifle and shoot at Myna birds pretending I'm a Russian sniper in Bakhmut. I shoot a bird and watch it fall then I say something like "he was denazified" or "myna bird was liquidated in the backyard direction" +--- 2549871 +>>2549395 +...holy shit.. +it's.. +...real + +http://westernexplorers.us/Lewis-and-Clark-Expedition-firearms-summary.html#:~:text=Lewis%20brought%20an%20%E2%80%9Cair%20gun,also%20mounted%20on%20a%20swivel. +--- 2550533 +>>2549871 +Girardoni air rifle, yeah. Designed in 1779 by Bartolomeo Girardoni in the Holy Roman Empire. 19+1 capacity. +--- 2551620 +Co2 Is good +--- 2551622 +>>2551620 +Oh.. fail... +--- 2552142 +>>2541310 +>ou're looking at like $6-8 hundred initial investment +fuck no, you can buy an used PCP for like 200$, if you catually inspect it you can get one that wasn't used at all for that money. And you can get a pump in aliexpress for 50$ that will be enough to fill any pcp up to 230 bar. +--- 2553032 +am I supposed to use the rifle just on the green zone? I understand that I won't have to fill it until the red zone, but what happens if I shoot when the rifle is in the yellow zone? +can someone has a video on this or something I could read? +--- 2553063 +Kral Big Horn .30 cal, yay or nay? + +>>2553032 +Yellow zone usually means it has fallen out of the regulator pressure and will shoot with less power... up to the point the pressure isn't enough to overcome barrel friction and you get a squib, but you'd have to shoot until the pellets are literally plopping out of the barrel to have that happen. +--- 2554501 +>>2553063 +beautiful, one day Im going to buy one of these +--- 2554512 +>>2549395 +Airguns were around for over 200 plus years before Lewis and Clark.. +--- 2554516 +>>2553063 +I shot something similar at a gun show. +Asked the guy how much it cost. He told me four and a half grand. +So I went and bought a gamo for 150 dollars. I only wanted it for rabbits in my yard anyway. +--- 2554517 +>>2554516 +Might be some Daystate or something, that rifle in particular is like $700-800 +--- 2554519 +>>2554517 +It was a custom job. The scope on it was a grand and a half by itself. +--- 2554522 +>>2554519 +If you go custom shit can get stupid expensive. Specially for benchrest or field-target. You see guys running top of the line Nightforce scopes on those competitions, and the scope is only a quarter of the price of the whole rig. +--- 2554554 +Any recommended break action pellet guns for rabbits and squirrels? Preferably in .22 +--- 2554563 +>>2554554 +I like my gamo swarm. +--- 2554573 +>>2554554 +What's your budget? Rifle and scope? +--- 2554594 +>>2554573 +he said break barrel.. scope is a no-go. holy shit wish people would stop putting scopes on those things... and put the rear irons/forward irons on the barrel only.. its a weird sight picture but at least you can fucking hit shit.... +--- 2554601 +>>2554594 +There are many "springer rated" scopes. If you put a random cheapo scope it's going to crap out, but if you put a Hawke or a UTG Bugbuster, they are specifically made for spring action air rifles. You need good mounts too, something like a 1-piece one +--- 2554706 +>>2541063 +I have one of these with a match barrel. It's really accurate, easy to use. But underpowered for anything besides close-ish range. So much drop on the pellet in .22 +--- 2554707 +>>2541673 +>>2541671 +In bigger calibers and heavy-weight pellets these can be strong enough to hunt men, anon. +--- 2555288 +>>2554601 +In some rifles those mounts don't let you put the magazine, only pellet by pellet +--- 2555356 +>>2555288 +PCPs have minimal recoil and can use whatever scope. +--- 2555377 +Airgunner here. +Some airguns are as deadly as regular firearms. +Most are gay bullshit, if they cant tell you the calibre of pellet, fps and propulsion its probably shit. +--- 2556294 +>>2555356 +I didn't mean that. If you use a 1-piece mount in some rifles you can't put the magazine in it so you have to put a single pellet everytime you want to shoot +--- 2557277 +>>2553032 +Look up regulated vs unregulated +--- 2557769 +>>2556294 +If your rifle doesn't have a suppressor you only need one shot. Everything scatters after the first round. My pops bought a breach loader (because he's a retarded boomer and totally ignored me) to kill starlings and the thing is loud as fuck. +--- 2558568 +I've considered getting a suppressed air rifle for plinking cause i don't feel like doing the tax stamp bullshit for suppressors for my .22 +--- 2558844 +Getting this scope tomorrow for my Kral Puncher, good or not? +--- 2559101 +Imagine buying airgun for the price of .22 +--- 2559733 +>>2559101 +Imagine saying something this retarded in a thread you obviously didn't read. +--- 2560040 +>>2553063 +Avoid Turkish airguns. +--- 2560112 +I bought this and I'm nervous +https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003374697568.html +this is the first time I buy an accesory like this in the chinese market, I didn't want to buy one in my country because the quality were very similar to chinese scopes but they were too expensive, almost the double even when most of them are from the same brands and hae the same specs +>>2558844 +That scope looks great, what is the weight of your rifle? and what is the weight of that scope? +--- 2560171 +>>2560040 +Why? I get the thing about cheap Turkish shotguns from no-name manufacturers, but air rifles are fine. Specially if you buy from well known companies like Kral or Huglu. +--- 2560231 +>>2560171 +Diana and Airforce are known for quality products and have been in the business for awhile. +--- 2560506 +>>2560171 +Because you can get Air Arms for the same price. +--- 2561975 +>>2548988 +what scope +--- 2561982 +>>2540957 (OP) + +I find it's most helpful in colder climates. Puts a little pep in your step +--- 2562350 +>>2541310 +Personally I prefer my .22 pcp over .22lr, I do a lot of squirrel hunting and .22lr does too much damage to the carcass to do anything with. Plus the added range you get from .22lr isn't gonna matter at the distances you'll be hunting squirrels at. +--- 2562376 +>>2561975 +Nikon Prostaff EFR 3-9x40. I think their discontinued now. Great scope if you can find one though. +--- 2562410 +>>2562350 +I'm getting a CZ 457 22lr/17hmr combo rifle after getting ridiculed with the PCP rifle in my latest hunt. We hunt in a vineyard and sometimes rabbits are rally far away, like 200m, I could never close in enough to get a shoot with my .25 cal air rifle. Since it's flat and featureless it's really hard to estimate range, I shoot at like 20 rabbits and got none. Also my rifle is heavy as fuck. 17hmr ought to do the trick. +--- 2562445 +>>2562410 +That's a valid reason to go with a conventional firearm over a pcp, you have to get equipment that meets your needs. I'm just sick of all the sperging about how PCPs are pointless because 22lr exists +--- 2563622 +>>2560231 +>Diana +love diana outlaw +--- 2565485 +Bump. Buying this rifle this week. +--- 2566962 +>>2541603 +esl europoo detected diff --git a/out/2541591.txt b/out/2541591.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..67fa64a4406fb78c4bf021d733516b29d5789938 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2541591.txt @@ -0,0 +1,428 @@ +----- +--- 2541591 +I'm not asking /biz/. They're retarded. +--- 2541593 +>>2541591 (OP) +Keep it, take it to auction and say you inherited it or that you or a relative (preferably a dead one) bought it in a foreign country years ago, or think of a better fake background. That’s just off the top of my head +--- 2541688 +>>2541591 (OP) +If it is marked gold, melt it down and reform into jewelry. Modern gold has radioactive particles in order to indicate origin, so be careful with it. +--- 2541689 +>>2541591 (OP) +The one piece is real +--- 2541720 +>>2541591 (OP) +You that guy who posted about finding lost gold in some park, and uploaded some video about it? +--- 2541728 +>>2541593 +This is the correct answer. You can't legally own anything that you find in the ground or in the ocean. You either get to have it as a decoration and conversation piece in your house, or you can try to sell it by claiming +>my relative died, I was cleaning out their house and I found this +--- 2541741 +Melt everything I guess, that will destroy and historical value and marks. +That judge is such garbage. Until judges/attorneys like this start facing personal punishment stuff like this will keep happening. +--- 2541796 +So much historical gold has probably been melted down because of faggot laws like this. A real shame. +--- 2541824 +>>2541728 +What if you claim you found it on your own private land? Buy a metal detector, dig some holes in the yard, and pretend it you found it there +--- 2541835 +>>2541824 +Most civilized countries have cultural and antiquity protection laws. Optimistically, you'd get 50% of value, in cash, but not get to keep anything. +--- 2541837 +>>2541824 +That's a bad idea because of what the other anon said. Artifacts and historical items in the ground belong to the state or federal government. My state has very strict laws on that kind of thing. Even hunting for them is technically illegal. If you find something here you're better off putting it in a glass case on your wall and showing it to your friends and family. +--- 2541885 +>>2541593 +Didnt know this about gold but they are also doing this to Rhino horns so the chinks cant get them through airport security. +--- 2541890 +>>2541591 (OP) +Don't fucking tell anyone. Separate it into different locations that are locked up at minimum. I would maybe display some of it at home varying on what it is, some of it I would maybe pawn. But don't evet fucking tell the government your they'll fuck you over if not outright shoot you over it. +--- 2541892 +>>2541890 +To add: as a old family proverb of mine said "the less the government knows, the better." If you found something, shut the fuck up and stop talking about it. +--- 2541893 +>>2541892 +>>2541890 +It belongs in a museum! +--- 2541938 +>>2541893 +>better tell the government +Why are boomers like this +--- 2542905 +>>2541893 +No, fuck off statist cuck. +--- 2542906 +>>2541593 +Shit like this is heavily tracked. People will ask questions and investigate. Absolutely no fake story you come up with will hold under serious scrutiny. +--- 2542907 +If it's something with any significant value immediately contact a lawyer and let them handle it and get whatever I can out of it. Not worth dealing with the government if you can get someone else to do it for you. +--- 2542908 +>>2541893 +I saw that article. I was tempted to post it here. The problem is, he has absolutely zero proof that they did actually take his info and use it. +--- 2542909 +>>2541591 (OP) +If you find undisclosed treasure in a public area, like international water, you have salvage rights (laws change by jurisdiction, hire a lawyer to be certain). +Tommy Thompson didn't go to prison for finding treasure and selling it. The reason Tommy Thompson went to prison is because he was funded with over $20 million to find the shipwreck and salvage it, and then he illegally salvaged it without authorization, then sold a bunch of the gold and stashed the money in offshore accounts to try to outplay the people who funded the expedition and salvage operation in the first place. + +So, in short - don't be a fucking scumbag that rips people off, and you won't go to prison for being a scumbag for ripping people off. +--- 2542912 +>>2542908 +Look at his polo shirt. +Laugh at the irony. +--- 2543059 +>>2542912 +Losers +Weepers +--- 2543646 +smelt it all down and learn how to make jewelry and sell it online. +--- 2544591 +>>2542909 +So he's in jail over a civil dispute? Women divorcing their husband have committed far worse than that yet they don't spend a single second in prison. +--- 2544792 +>>2544591 +No, >>2542909 this poster is a retard with a toddlers reading comprehension. Tommy went to jail because after he found the gold and brought it back, the insurance companies that originally insured the ship in the 1850s sued for lost profits. Because of the suits, he sold like $50 million and said that was all of it, but evidence shows there’s a lot of gold not accounted for, so he’s in jail for lying to the court. They call it perjury. +--- 2545051 +>>2541835 +>>2541837 +even on private land? Even in the US? Wtf Commie shit is that? +--- 2545106 +>>2544792 +Isn't this the guy who literally stacked it in plastic bins and left it underwater to come back for later? +--- 2545237 +>>2541591 (OP) +Gee I'm sure glad we have excellent laws to protect us from... Having a few hundred/thousand bucks due to finding some old stuff. Yeah. Great. +--- 2545238 +>>2544792 +>a company can sue in the modern day over a ship they lost one hundred and seventy god damn years ago +What the fuck kind of stupid ass greedy logic is this? How is this allowed? +--- 2546237 +>>2541893 +His shirt should say losers weepers don +--- 2547161 +I used to find old tins of gold coins when I did land surveying for the railroad. Anytime I'd fine an old homestead foundations I'd metal detect. People didn't use banks back then. Most I foundat once was about 30 grand in old Morgan dollars. +--- 2547176 +>>2541893 +>finders keepers looser's weepers nigger. +--- 2547333 +>>2542908 +Do you think the FBI employs random metal detectorists to randomly search forests/beaches for gold? Do you think they just "happen" to find 7 tons of gold right after they were alerted to the existence of a shitton of gold in a specific location? +--- 2547339 +>>2544591 +Female privilege is real despite what you heard +--- 2547760 +>>2541591 (OP) +Take it and hide it. Before im hung from the gallows by the global homo finally disclose ive left everything in one piece. +--- 2547819 +I read about this a good deal and am a detectorist as a hobby. People usually go nuts when something valuable is found and it can go a many ways. + +1. You find something, someone hears about it, they find you: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3341003/Bodies-Montana-believed-mother-son-vanished-month-ago-gold-bar-worth-half-million-dollars.html +2. Uncle Sam has money to waste trying to get whatever you found: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Fisher +3. The feds say what you found belongs to the Spanish: https://www.cnn.com/2012/02/01/world/europe/spain-u-s--treasure-dispute/index.html +4. Maybe you found something, maybe the army took it from you, doesn't matter you're dead: https://www.legendsofamerica.com/victorio-peak-treasure/ +5. You just pay taxes on it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddle_Ridge_Hoard +6. Your finding it doesn't stop you from being a retard scammer: Tommy Thompson + +Best advise: minimize the knowledge of you finding it, move it as quietly as possible to a safe location, shut the fuck up until you can talk to the right person to buy/sell it. Risk in all aspects. Dad always said, "Shoot, shovel, shut up." +--- 2548140 +>>2545051 +You think that's bad? Look into how the idea of "mineral rights" came to be. + +I don't know about treasures and antiquities, but my state at least has decent laws with regards to fossils and shit: finders keepers basically lol. +--- 2548151 +>>2541893 +Lol what a moron. +--- 2548795 +>>2547760 +You want my dead man's switch? +You can have it +I've gathered everything I found in one place +Now you just have to find it +--- 2550489 +>>2547819 +Thanks for the reading material +--- 2551269 +In a similar vein, I've always wondered what the laws about hurricanes/floods/natural disasters are. Like if a hurricane hits, and someone's toolbox floats into my flooded house, is it now my toolbox? +--- 2551275 +>>2547177 +>laws that have been in place for decades +>"MUH BIDEN MUH UKRAINE" +Subhuman with /pol/ brainrot. +--- 2551301 +>>2541591 (OP) +Can someone who knows more about this than me say why he won’t just tell court where the rest of the gold is? He says he doesn’t know but that has to be bullshit. Surely being a free man with no gold is better than being locked in prison +--- 2551318 +>>2551301 + +>invent claim to mass quantity of gold +>government demands their cut +>refuse to tell them +>get free room and board courtesy of the government +>??? +>profit +--- 2551344 +>>2541593 +Shit thier advice. You should melt it if it's gold or silver and sell it. +--- 2551354 +>>2541688 +>Modern gold has radioactive particles in order to indicate origin +what? +that cant be true +--- 2551356 +>>2551354 + +Diamonds have microscopic engravings as identifiers +--- 2551365 +>>2545051 +>Even in the US? Wtf Commie shit is that? +The concept of US "freedom" is almost entirely baseless propaganda. +--- 2552564 +>>2551354 +it unironically is sort of true but they're not some tracking feature just that everything manufactured in earth's atmosphere after the atom bomb does. +--- 2552676 +>>2552564 +Yeah they scavenged the Imperial German Fleet from the bottom of Scapa Flow to get non irradiated steel for the Apollo cosmic ray detectors. Every bit of metal smelted since Trinity is a tiny bit radioactive. +--- 2554855 +>>2552676 +That doesn't make any sense. +--- 2554859 +>>2541824 +I think in the UK you own it under prospector's rights. If you didn't dig it up with a metal detector, it'd still be in the ground, and no one would know about it, so you might as well own it to encourage it. But it's different if they find something whilst building something else +--- 2554874 +>>2554855 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present +Start here. +--- 2554920 +>>2551269 +That's called looting. + +Nigger. +--- 2554924 +>>2541593 +There's inheritance tax here +--- 2554992 +>>2541591 (OP) +What the headline doesn't state is that he's not in jail for not disclosing the location of his find, it's that he swindled investors of his treasure hunt out of $22mil and fled to the Bahamas. +--- 2555239 +>>2541689 +fucking killed me lmao +--- 2555601 +>>2554920 +Hey, that cunt kept my skateboarding ramp I built with my dad when it floated into his lawn, so I'm keeping his toolbox. +--- 2555613 +>>2551269 +i think flotsam/jetsam laws only apply to boat cargo +--- 2555616 +>>2541591 (OP) +In November 2018, Thompson agreed to surrender 500 gold coins salvaged from the wreck of the Central America, but then claimed he did not have access to the missing coins.[10] On 28 November 2018, a jury awarded investors $19.4 million in compensatory damages: $3.2 million to the Dispatch Printing Company (which had put up $1 million of a total of $22 million invested) and $16.2 million to the court-appointed receiver of the other investors. + + +He fucked over investors that bankrolled his search2gtmr +--- 2556408 +>>2541591 (OP) +It's been passed down in your family for generations, and/or grandpa bought it before your parents were even born. +--- 2556546 +>>2551301 +Because he's in for perjury, according to +>>2544792 +--- 2556604 +>>2551354 + +You'll never escape the radioactive Jew. +--- 2558267 +>>2551344 +And what stamp and serial number are you going to apply to your new ingot? That's right; none. +Shit for brains. +--- 2558721 +>>2544792 +It's a little abstract, in my opinion. +Why does the insurance company even need the extra 50 million dollars from a ship that wrecked 170 years ago? +What will they do with that money? +Will they pay it out to all their employees? Will they somehow re-invest it into the business? Will they use it to approve and pay out insurance claims? + +I mean, humans are greedy. Humans always want more. But a company is just a company, an abstract organization So I don't get it. +--- 2559550 +>>2541893 +why do boomers trust the government so much +--- 2559570 +>>2547161 +30 grand in cull morgans is like 1500 coins. How big was the chest? +--- 2559572 +>>2552676 + +Imagine being in the meeting where some dude proposes this as a solution. Absolutely mad. +--- 2559576 +>>2541591 (OP) +A few times a year I hear about people who get caught running incredibly lucrative scams or drug busts that include millions in cash, and I always wonder if the criminals were smart enough to bury some of their earnings. They have to be, right? If they’re smart enough to launder money then they have to know that burying gold bars is the safest insurance against a bust. + +Then think about the East Coast, ifs lack of public land, and ifs high density of organized crime. There’s some buried treasure out there, and it’s probably not that far from the road. +--- 2559592 +>>2551354 +>that cant be true +Why do you think Gold bullion is 99.9% and not 100%? Its not like gold melts at room temperature +--- 2559599 +>>2541591 (OP) +Which third world shithole country is this? +--- 2559612 +>>2559599 +the United States +--- 2559695 +>>2541591 (OP) +You should keep it and sell it bit by bit to collectors discretely. +--- 2559696 +>>2541893 +Then buy it from me, tax free, and I will gladly sell it to you! +Oh, that's not how it works? +You instead try to confiscate it from me and fine or jail me for even finding it!? +Fuck you then! +--- 2559700 +>>2559592 +You can never make something 100% pure. If you’ve ever seen 100% pure gold I know you’re a liar. +You can get to .9998 or .9999 “fine” or “very fine”, but never 1.0. +--- 2559740 +>>2558267 +You would do almost exactly the same thing you’d do if you manufactured a new firearm: you’d get it professionally assayed, and then once you had that data, you’d stamp your own name/address, the metal content/purity, and a serial number of your choice on it. Nothing about that is illegal or unsaleable, as long as the stated metal content is accurate. +--- 2559774 +>>2558721 +A company is run by humans, and as you said, humans are greedy. +It doesn't need to be any more abstract or complex than that. All it takes is one person, be it a middle-manager or the CEO, who can use the recovery as a means to get a raise/bonus. +--- 2559810 +1. +Do your nation/state have a finders fee +2. +What constitutes finding? If its shaky such as in USA, always report it in parallel to something like a news organization +Always secure legal help if bounty payout is dubious +3. +Is it hard to claim you inherited the deed for a cabin in the middle of fucking nowhere, and found some coins stored there? +4. +Don't make a god damn fundme if you just plan to scam the investors +--- 2559812 +sell it in small quantities to pawn shops. + +or say i inheirted it from a dead family member, pay the taxes on it and sell it wholesale in auction. coins like that are probably worth more than gold melt value. +--- 2559888 +>>2558721 +look at this commie nigger questioning private property +--- 2560529 +>>2541591 (OP) +Do they intend to keep him behind bars indefinitely? What's the end game? +--- 2560554 +>>2560529 +>What's the end game? + +THE TREASURE +--- 2561368 +>>2544591 +>being hired and defrauding the people who hired you is civil +--- 2561369 +>>2551365 +Freedom isn't free +--- 2561397 +>>2541689 +>kequed +--- 2561406 +In the new Cormac McCarthy novel, the guy loads up his truck with gold coins and spends a few weeks pawning them across multiple states. That sounds about right. +--- 2561407 +>>2541591 (OP) +--- 2561433 +>>2560529 +He will probably go to debtor's prison after this, so yeah he will be behind bars until he dies. +--- 2561765 +>>2554920 +so what is picking up a penny on the sidewalk then? +--- 2561785 +>>2561765 +stealing from the chosen people +--- 2561786 +>>2544792 +>the insurance companies that originally insured the ship in the 1850s sued for lost profits +--- 2561790 +>>2561785 +Fucking hell, anon. +--- 2561798 +Oh +--- 2562318 +>>2559550 +once upon a time a lot of people lived in a high trust society where the state at the very least put in a lot more effort to seem like they were acting in people's interests. Democratic parties would even sit down and have a genuine discussion on how to solve problems within the country instead of calling eachother literally Hitler +--- 2562323 +>>2559700 +The purest gold ever made is 6 9s Fine, ie .999999/1. + +The 100 kilo coins the Canadian Mint made were 5 9s fine. +--- 2563436 +Dickheads in my village found old coin, they sold it to pawn shop for 100 dollar to buy vodka. Those coins later was sold to private collector for 50 thousand dollar +--- 2563561 +>>2541591 (OP) +>biz is retarded +Yes, yes they really are. I decide today to not bother with that board at all anymore. They won't ever help you make money, let alone get rich. It's just spam and memes. +--- 2564703 +>>2558267 +You seriously think PMs become worthless if melted down and you're calling others shit for brains? Jesus Christ anon. Gold with no stamp or serial number is still gold +--- 2564722 +>>2563436 +Well your govt did its work to make sure all your people are alcoholics because it makes you a more compliant workforce/ slaves/ meatshields. Biolenism is real +Anyways, those dickheads couldn't have ever approached that private collector. The collector wouldn't have taken them seriously. Its not so different from a Pokemon card. Its just cardboard. But some of the paper is worth more no reason, then its sent to get graded and suddenly collectors are interested. The pawn shop is the grader who validates the value of the coin. +If you look at this from a GDP perspective, that coin is worth 50100 dollars + some vodka because ownership transfarred twice, thus making your economy better. +--- 2564739 +>>2561407 +Truman show +--- 2564747 +>>2545238 +you fucking retard. you think the government is in charge of anything? why does a horsefucker literal + troon know more about politics than you people. + +Listen fagglet. The government doesn't control shit. The stock market and rich people don't either. All investment capital started in early banking establishments built around one thing and one thing only: insurance. The slave trade /pol/ and redditors seeth eternally about? 90% of all of the profits from that are still tied up in loyds of london. And that's not even the beginning of it. Insurance companies did the equivalent of mining the miners, skimming off the profit of merchant companies by leveraging themselves as middlemen to a multitude of investors, at a time when it was considered illegal for Christians' to do any of it in many places. These companies land their profits are the new world royalty. their dynasties lay privately beneath the entire fabric of society. The entire us government could be slaughtered to the last man and unless these guys where dealt with nothing would change. It doesn't even matter which side of the political spectrum you larp to be on (it's all a puppet show anyway). The reparation money joggers seeth about? these guys still have all of it. they where instrumental in establishing and creating the federal reserve. They own you and everything you lay eyes on. + +you want to talk about magic internet money. nothing tops the wealth generated by this brief period of colonial trade. do you not remember all the times you where told in school these voyages where considered a success if even one ship of many made it back? imagine if you could just throw money into a game company, and they churned out 10 titles, one of which was basically guarantied to do more than cover all the losses on 9 complete flops. thats the kind of market it was. +--- 2565108 +>>2551354 +Pretty much all metal now is contaminated with radioactive elements post-atomic weapons usage. It's made precision instruments difficult to manufacture now because their materials themselves are compromised in some small measure by this. +>>2551356 +This is also true, it's why baddies in movies and video games often seek uncut gems for payments. Accepting gems for payment IRL is retarded though. +--- 2565258 +>>2541893 +Boomers are really the last ones to trust this much big daddy gov +--- 2566899 +>>2558267 +>And what stamp and serial number are you going to apply to your new ingot? +whatever the fuck i want +--- 2566906 +>>2564747 +That shit was based as fuck. + +Some autistic guy figured out navigation from looking at stars while another forged weapons to conquer. +Without them there's no America. + +With that said their current power is only derived through the institutions. Their children are inbred and incompetent. + +The people playing with internet money are developing the tools for the next wave. +The inherent tools in bitcoin are designed to usurp the old institutions. +--- 2567388 +>>2564747 +Any good books on this subject? I would like to learn about it. +--- 2567406 +>>2544792 +>the insurance companies that originally insured the ship in the 1850s sued for lost profits +--- 2567628 +>>2541591 (OP) +What do you mean? I've never found any treasure. And any treasure I did find was lost in a boating accident. +--- 2567630 +>>2564747 +Stopped reading this post after the first few fragments of utter edgelord nonsense. + +Try again writing like a sensible human if you want to have your opinions taken seriously. Until then, dismissed. +--- 2567782 +>>2541591 (OP) +Got 10 tons of Italian gold in my basement. They will never get it back. +--- 2567795 +>>2567782 +>Italian gold + +What are you gonna do with that much parmesan +--- 2567881 +>>2567795 +Make LOTSA spaghetti +--- 2567892 +>>2567630 +>no arguments +>just your typical screeching baby crying over his overton window after finding out THIS pro wrestling isn't real either. +keep chugging that "healthy" oil and ignoring those health insurance premiums diff --git a/out/2542159.txt b/out/2542159.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..edb29f4fa3c3ab2bd201123f9d38fd615f8ed2b8 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2542159.txt @@ -0,0 +1,865 @@ +----- +--- 2542159 +Post British and Irish out tales here. Latest outing, favourite piece of gear and most valuable lessons learned. + +Bonus prompt: what instruments or songs do you play/sing while on the trail? +--- 2542161 +Gorms were nice +--- 2542167 +comfy Welsh hills are comfy. +--- 2542171 +you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like +--- 2542175 +>>2542171 +Comfy camping in the woods +--- 2542179 +Favourite bit of gear has got to be my fixed blade. Fjallkniven A1, absolute beast of a tool. Comes with me on all my bushcraft oriented trips, had it for years now and it's never let me down +--- 2542180 +thread theme: + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y64uWjtSKAo [Embed] +--- 2542183 +>>2542179 +Also the bothy ned basher +--- 2542187 +not been out since January. too busy being a wagie. +--- 2542189 +Going back tomorrow +--- 2542195 +This feb has been so warm this year, I missed the snow +--- 2542367 +Outdoors sucks dick in britain other than some really niche areas. +I moved to Japan and now do so much shit outside. +If i ever moved back home i’d have little to no motivation to do anything like that again. +--- 2542459 +>>2542367 +>If i ever moved back home i’d have little to no motivation to do anything like that again. +That's because you're a loser. +That's why you had to move to Japan to try find a girl hahaha. +--- 2542515 +>>2542459 +Yeah this anon is right you're just a loser +Also stop saying the UK when you mean England, you sound like an American +--- 2542633 +Any Norfolk/East Anglia Anons out there? Walked to St. Benets Abbey Ruins on the Norfolk Broads recently and started the Peddars Way a while back. Also found a copy of pic related. Thinking of doing a few walks from it soon as the weather seems to be finally picking up. +--- 2542656 +>>2542187 +You camped at a fucking car park... Tarmac 2m behind you. +--- 2542679 +>>2542656 +not 2m but ye it was close to the road. +my first time camping overnight and wasnt sure my sleeping bag was warm enough. +--- 2542884 +>>2542459 + +I moved there to ski silly, and am already married +--- 2543124 +>>2542195 +Lovely +--- 2543244 +Cape wrath +--- 2543314 +>>2542633 +Are you the Sebald anon I was chatting with a few months back? How's it going? I made an effort post replying to you a while back but some namefag slid the thread. +https://archived.moe/out/thread/2453422/#q2484958 +Looks like an interesting book, a friend of my Dad's is big into ley lines, apparently they're all over the place in Norfolk. Not sure how much I believe but my dad was thoroughly convinced by this chap. I haven't been walking much recently as the weather is still a bit grim but I'm looking into the wherrymans way as a weekend jaunt when I'm back. +--- 2543414 +>>2542159 (OP) +Tea in the peaks before Christmas, doing a three day hike in Snowdonia next weekend super excited about it first proper /out/ing of the year. + +>favourite piece of gear +Does a website count? maps.the-hug.net is really fucking good for planning hikes in the UK +>OS map layer +>Custom map layer based on open street maps with more topo data plus extras +>Create, edit and load GPX files +>Shows route data like elevation changes distance profile etc +>100% free +If not then I love my Swiss M84 water bottle + mug (pictured) +--- 2543649 +>>2543414 +>Does a website count? maps.the-hug.net is really fucking good for planning hikes in the UK +cheers for this. +would be nice if it had a feature for printing maps to scale like OSmaps does. +--- 2543664 +>>2542367 +PewDiePie is that you? +--- 2543697 +Narrowboat anon here, nice to see the threads revived! After a bunch of cold snaps and getting frozen in more than once, we're back out cruising again! Can't remember where I took this pic but I've just turned onto the Oxford canal, where after rugby it should get a lot more rural and /out/. Upgraded the boat with 3x210Ah batteries and a new 400W solar panel (for a total of 710W now), so in the summer I should be sorted power-wise. +--- 2543701 +>>2543697 +Oh I got a cat at some point, and he's been enjoying wandering when I'm moored up in less busy areas +--- 2543835 +>>2543701 +Have you named him? Comfy pics btw +--- 2543882 +>>2543835 +Cheers, yeah he's called Scraps and he's either a complete cunt or the chillest dude. +--- 2544339 +>>2543882 +Would love to see some more pictures, especially of your boats interior, to see how it is to live on one. +--- 2544341 +>>2543697 +Not up to speed on who you are? do you travel around uk on a canoe or something? id love to see pictures of your setup +--- 2544395 +>>2543244 +Good spot. Been a few time to photograph airyplanes +--- 2544528 +>>2543127 +looks like Loch Insh? +--- 2544532 +Fuck the Jewish train prices I want to go/out/ but they want £30 one way to get me inna Cairngorms +--- 2544718 +>>2544532 +Bus is a lot cheaper. +Citylink/Megabus etc +--- 2544726 +>>2544341 +I live on a narrowboat and continuously cruise around the canal system. Here's what it looks like on the outside. You can stay anywhere that's not otherwise signposted for up to two weeks, there's free water and stuff along the way and you get to see amazing parts of our industrial heritage and the countryside from a lesser-seen perspective +--- 2544772 +>>2544339 # +We got a sofa recently which has greatly improved quality of life. Next big thing is to redo the bathroom (fully working shower heated by cooling the diesel engine, and from a diesel central heating system too), macerator toilet that puts the poo into a big tank... +At the stern there's an almost double bed, and the galley has a gas hob and oven. +--- 2544793 +>>2544718 +>£45 Glasgow to Inverness +cheaper getting the train, very least you can just buy a ticket to the next stop +--- 2544803 +You know what they call the sun in Scotland? A myth. +--- 2544806 +>>2543882 +looking cosy anon +--- 2544827 +>>2544803 +Fuck off we're full +--- 2544840 +>>2543697 +Nice boat. How’d you find her and what’s her name? + +Also, how far can you travel on canals? Is it just the Home Counties or…? +--- 2544858 +>>2544840 +We don't leave the south but there are plans to explore the network more +--- 2544859 +>>2544793 +where are you getting that? +just looked, megabus return is £38 and train return is £62. +--- 2544866 +>>2544859 +citylink return, train has a 26-30 railcard so cheaper. Both are expensive +--- 2544879 +>>2544866 +true. glasgow to inverness is an odd route though. +you're going west to east. +edinburgh to inverness megabus is only £17 return if you book a couple of weeks in advance. +--- 2544886 +>>2544840 +I think we found her on Apollo Duck. She's called 'why wait?', she used to be called Carla but we renamed her. +Bought her in Slough and moved north to the Midlands. Now we've just turned onto the Oxford and are gonna potter about there for a while. Attached image is a good representation of the navigable inland waterways. +>>2544858 +Are you also a filthy ditch rat? Canal anons unite! That pic doesn't really show the areas that are actually navigable btw... Maybe by kayak but certainly not boat +--- 2545067 +>>2544886 +part time canal gypsy +--- 2545217 +F +--- 2545278 +>>2545217 +They expect one of us in the wreckage brother +--- 2545294 +>>2544879 +that involves going to edinburgh, adding 10 quid to the journey. prices are screwed +--- 2545308 +>>2544827 +Fuck off then, nonce. Scotland isn't full. +--- 2545362 +>>2545217 +how the fuck can someone be missing for a week in what is probably the most high footfall area of the highlands? +buried under an avalanche? +--- 2545379 +>>2545308 +>Oh isnt it noice heya its loik ow it was round ah way when oi was a kid befoh they built ouwl the ouses. +... +>Thehs loads of spayce, neeyds a few fings built heya for peepow to dew innit +... +>It's just not vuh sayme any moh! +Many such cases. +--- 2545992 +Bit of a chilly cruise today, but we saw rabbits and even a little fawn sat among the trees right next to the canal, very close and very cute +--- 2546182 +>>2545992 +You done the MK - Rugby section? Very nice on foot +--- 2546216 +>>2546182 +I did last summer, yeah. Absolutely gorgeous area This is from towards the northern part of that stretch of the grand Union which actually turns off just before rugby, at Norton junction. If you carry on towards rugby it's actually on a little section of the Oxford canal, until braunston where the Oxford carries on North to rugby (which we're actually right outside now), and the grand Union starts again to the south. Sorry lol probably too much detail, I'll talk anyone's ear off about the canal +--- 2546414 +>>2546216 +Nice. If its not too personal, how much would it cost monthly and upfront to get setup on one of those. Are you a neet or remote working? +--- 2546695 +Has anyone tried doing Scotland by kayak without a car? +I can get a lift up easily, but not regularly. Would it be a stupid idea to buy one, park it somewhere off the track and paying the estate a couple hundred to store for a year, beats £900 on a packraft. +--- 2546923 +>>2546695 +dont tell the landowner, tie to some trees away from the beach +--- 2546926 +>>2542159 (OP) +>Brit/out/ +>Brit +>/out/ +--- 2546986 +>>2546695 +if you want to start kayaking your best bet would be to work towards getting a car/driving license. +--- 2547006 +>>2542515 +england, wales and NI are all the same: only scotland stands out +--- 2547027 +>>2543314 + +Sebald anon reporting in. How's it going? The weather has certainly been shite of late. + +Yeah loads of leylines Norfolk it seems, not much info about them around in general though. I'm not sure I believe in them but they're an interesting a fun way to observe the land whilst walking I suppose. + +For what it's worth, I'd recommend the book, cheap enough online and the hand-drawn routes are pleasant. Puddingstone Walk from Heacham looks interesting, as does one from Trowse to the site of an old hill fort in Tasburgh. +--- 2547090 +>>2546986 +I should do.must be possible to leave something up there though? +--- 2547181 +>>2546414 +If you can buy outright, you're talking about £50k upwards (what we paid) for a boat that's good enough but still plenty of bits to perfect. If you continuously cruise you must move a mile or so every 2 weeks along the system and that's currently cheaper (about a grand a year) than having a mooring on the canal or at a marina (probably triple that) but that will change drastically soon. Then there's gas for the cooker, wood and coal in winter, diesel for running the motor for electricity and moving (ours also does the heating)... I'd say ballpark for a lot of people is probably around a grand or so a month max? It's so very hard to say unfortunately. One thing though; don't read those fucking tabloid stories about boating being an easy way to live for cheap. It's work and it's only a bit cheaper if you're wanting a similar quality of life. That being said, I love it and wouldn't change it for the world. Me and my wife both work remotely +--- 2547221 +>>2544718 +Yeah I end up on buses all the time but it's annoying finding one that stops in a nice convenient place to start hiking, benefit of trains is all the small ass stops where as coaches are mostly direct city to city +Looks like I'll get my camping fill anyway I'm gonna go wales for family shit and then sneak off for a few days +£230 train from wales to Scotland btw lmao +That'll have to be buses but none of them connect conveniently so I'll end up staying somewhere on the way either in a fucking premiere inn or a bush +Joke ass public transportation +--- 2547222 +>>2546216 +Used to live in rugby and fuck me it's a shithole but those canals? Do love them +--- 2547233 +>>2547221 +megabus is cheap in advance, learn where the checkies swap and you can get away without a full ticket up here +--- 2547429 +>>2547233 +I've done cardiff to Glasgow by pretending to be asleep lmao +I miss peak covid when they just stopped checking and had to hire a bunch of private security companies to check tickets at station and you could just wait until the last minute and then walk past +--- 2547453 +>>2547090 +There are companies which rent out kayaks, they even deliver them/pick them up where you need. +But yes I'm sure you could make arrangements with a landowner though I doubt they'd be able to garuntee it won't get nicked. +--- 2547511 +>>2547453 +Yea I'll just drive up at night +--- 2547622 +>>2547027 +Hills? Norfolk? Surely some mistake? +--- 2547857 +Did Blencathra in the Lake District. Weather was pretty pleasant but Sharp Edge wasn't safe to scramble, turned back halfway up it and so did everyone else we met. Took the other path from Scales Tarn to the summit, then scrambled down Hall's Fell, nothing too technical but a few places were slightly sketchy. Lovely day out. +--- 2548336 +>>2547222 +Yeah not a massive fan desu, and it's a bit of a trek from the canal to town. Looking forward to getting back out into the country between braunston and rugby +--- 2548768 +Nice to see and hear three red kites above me today +--- 2548774 +>>2547622 + +Lol, fair point. + +There are a few here and there and Norwich itself is hilly in places. Not as flat as The Fens though, you can watch your dog run away for two weeks there... +--- 2549198 +>>2543882 +Nice mate, you got the exact same stove as I had when I lived in a cabin in Wales. This pic brought a smile to my face remembering my cat sitting in front of it just like that. Enjoy anon. +--- 2549307 +>>2549198 +Cheers mate yeah it's not a bad stove. We've got a backboiler fitted, which is a thing that pumps the central heating through it when the water gets hot enough so we can heat the rest of the boat just from burning wood +I hear councils want to stop people burning stuff in towns and that but they can pry my woodstove from my very warm and comfy hands. +Here's a pic from near Braunston, where we noticed the new lambs of spring were already racing around having fun. So fucking cute, lads +--- 2549495 +>>2549307 +Meant to ask you this last thread - do you get any sort of rats or insects on the boat, I imagine mosquitos being annoying in summer. +--- 2549511 +I'm from Australia but I can get a visa in the UK because my Grandfather was English. I recently have had a bit of a thing for British nature. Would any of you guys suggest I temporarily stay in Britain and explore the outdoors there? I would also be very interested in urbex there but I would have no idea where to start in terms of getting in with the community over there. +--- 2549646 +>>2549495 +Mostly just spiders, and that's only really a problem in summer/autumn. Thankfully since we got the cat he seems to take care of most of them! Not heard of people getting rodents on their boats. Yeah mosquitos can be annoying in summer, but I'm gonna build some insect nets into the windows - the glass from the windows comes out entirely, so in the summer we can just have the insect screen to protect us. It's actually harder to keep the boat cool in the summer than it is to keep it warm in the winter. +--- 2549833 +>>2549511 +>temporarily stay in Britain +What are /out/ you into? +>urbex +28dayslater forum, I can give you some recommendations if you're down Kent way +--- 2549842 +Do you go /out/? Looking for more local /out/ friends? Join our comfy group today! +https://discord.gg/a6zSTbNJFh +--- 2549854 +scottish borders +--- 2549865 +>>2549854 +--- 2549867 +>>2549865 +--- 2549868 +>>2549867 +--- 2549874 +>>2549865 + +10/10 nature in bongistan +--- 2549880 +>>2549874 +10/10 nature in USA +--- 2549933 +>>2549833 +I really like the highlands and the English countryside, especially how it resembles fantasy stuff. I've also always have had a thing for fog. In outdoor terms I would be into anything from day hikes and drives to wildcamping. The UK urbex community seems way more open than Australias, Australian urbex is gatekept heavily (although there's weirdly a massive boomer community who urbex) +--- 2550074 +>>2549933 +Kinda the same here with a massive boomer community but there are a couple of gaps here and there. There’s some really good stuff here, but unfortunately the big problem is the rate of demolition. Also security seems to be improving in most places, but not too the level where you’re actually get arrested and charged. Just harder to get in. +--- 2550177 +snowing today, melted a bit and then started again in full force. Hoping it continues into tomorrow +--- 2550282 +>>2549933 +When are you thinking of coming? +Autumn (October onwards) would be the best for the highlands - few tourists, no midges but very boggy. +--- 2550284 +Some snow down south +--- 2550314 +>>2550282 +Maybe next year or so, I heard cost of living is a bit shit over there at the moment so I want to save a bit before I come over. With the ancestry visa I can stay upwards of 5 years (I can get it renewed as well) so I'll probably go for a year or two, I've never been out of Australia so I'll probably stay for a while. If I do move I'll try to get a job in agriculture, it's what I have the most experience in. +>>2550074 +I checked out some UK forums, it was just crazy to me how often locations were posted. Even the boomers here don't post any locations. Security here are on a massive power trip 24/7 (although I assume almost every security guard around the world is some what as well) and getting caught in an expedition is pretty much guaranteed to end up with police. +--- 2550326 +It was a bloody cold day today. Somehow convinced the missus to walk to the post office/village shop with me to see if my sim card had been delivered but no joy. however, there was a decent pub nearby where we necked a few. After a few hours the snow started to settle and despite the wind cutting into us, the walk back was pleasant +--- 2550335 +>>2550314 +>I checked out some UK forums, it was just crazy to me how often locations were posted. Even the boomers here don't post any locations. Security here are on a massive power trip 24/7 (although I assume almost every security guard around the world is some what as well) and getting caught in an expedition is pretty much guaranteed to end up with police. +here in the UK trespassing is a civil offence, not a criminal one. so thats maybe the reason for the difference in attitudes. +i'm guessing it's a criminal offence in aus? +--- 2550602 +How viable is travelling England by bike? Was going to get a car but the fee is insane, cheapest ive found is like 50 USD per day. Found a few bikes for sale cheap and was thinking of using that. Travelling very light and staying indoors so not carrying much more then a few changes of clothes, my kindle and my pipe stuff. +--- 2550838 +>>2550177 +Fucking love it me lad, beautiful round here when it does, the only time it is beautiful desu. Had s good day testing snow toys and I little peeved varusteleka didn't have my size left in Italian surplus snow boots in stock for the full snow camouflage look(ok not gloves but finding white or snow camo gloves is harder than finding hens teeth). + +Here to deeper snow tomorrow *hold up glass of whiskey as toast* + +Is man kung crossbow anon in? How was your trip to the land of haggis? Get any deer? Saw a brace today, they darted quick as I was bollocking the dog for being a dick but if I was stalking sans mutt my plate would be full for the next few weeks. +--- 2551067 +>>2550314 +Could be hard getting a job in agriculture, definitely look beforehand. Cost of living is unlikely to go down in the next few years. +--- 2551068 +>>2550602 +You could do it easily. https://explore.osmaps.com/?overlays=&style=Standard has the official bike routes and there's a lot more on openstreetmap.org. A and B roads will be too busy mostly. You can take it on most trains but for some you have to book. +>>2550838 +Arrived yesterday, testing it next week hopefully +--- 2551185 +>>2551068 +Enjoy lad, looking at some Bear/EK compounds meself and stacks more bolts, remember soft dense backstop like rags in a bag are cheapest option, print off or paint your own scoring target on the bag. Enormous fun +--- 2551195 +>>2545362 +Probably fell somewhere remote and out of sight. Why else would both have died together? Unless it was an avalanche. + +Could have been werewolfs too though. +--- 2551196 +>>2548774 +>The Fens though, you can watch your dog run away for two weeks there... +No you can't. Pikeys will steal it in front of your eyes if it's even out of arm's reach. You can watch the pikey van peel out and drive away for about two weeks though, then some fog rolls in and you can't even see your feet anymore. +--- 2551203 +The sun had a bit of the warmth of Spring in it today at least. +--- 2551450 +>>2550602 +if you are making a lot of trips by train it may be better to just rent a car as trains are ridiculously expensive +--- 2551788 +alright chaps? +planning on doing 10 days or so in the scottish islands in the summer. what are some must-see islands and locations? +--- 2551820 +>>2551788 +with 10 days i'm pretty sure you can just see all of them (if we are talking about the outer hebrides). +--- 2551950 +Pretty lucky that we've had heavy snow where I live. + +I was up to my knees in it today, shame I couldn't come up here yesterday. I actually tried hiking up somewhere else but the snow drifts were chest deep and I couldn't get past them. + +Today I came up these hills instead, but a lot of the snow had melted, though still some thigh-deep drifts. It must have been mad yesterday if I could have got up here. +--- 2552050 +>>2551788 +corr might go there this weekend +--- 2552181 +Going to Skye next week, any tips lads? +--- 2552186 +>>2551820 +>if we are talking about the outer hebrides +definitely gonna go there but i'd like to visit some of the inner hebrides / small isles too +>>2552050 +reckon it only looks like that for 3 days a year and that's with camera saturation +--- 2552206 +Anyone here channel islander? I am considering taking a job in Jersey, St Helier to be exact. Aside from the retarded rent prices, I am also slightly hesitant to do so because it will make going /out/ much less convenient. I would definitely get a kayak and perhaps take up sailing, but how easy is it to do, and what else is there really to do in jersey and the channel islands? +--- 2552359 +unnaground +--- 2552363 +>>2551185 +>Step 1: Find some prick looking through binoculars +>Step 2: Shoot him in the spine. +--- 2552721 +>>2544726 +That a Springer hull, anon? Nice. +--- 2553134 +>>2552799 +--- 2553213 +>>2552721 +Nah it's an old black prince hire boat (2004). You can usually identify black princes by the big rubber fender on the bow rather than the training rope fenders. Also the sticky out bit with the fender on the stern, no idea what it's called +>>2552799 +Ask your friends:* +--- 2553451 +>>2543244 +>Cape wrath +Nice I hiked the CWT last May, was good fun. Thinking about the Cambrian Way this may/april. +--- 2554395 +>>2544827 +I knew a scottish lass once and she was never fucking full. Like a black hole for chips and cock. +--- 2554908 +How /out/ is it? +--- 2554909 +>>2554908 +I mean, you need to fucking sail there so it's fairly /out/. +--- 2554915 +>>2554909 +Well, is it all farmland or wilderness? +--- 2554917 +>>2554915 +A brief check indicates that it's mostly something you could Google yourself you lazy fuck. +--- 2554918 +>>2554917 +I'm asking to see if its gated off when others went, I want to hear experience not generic google results. +--- 2554991 +>>2554908 +you could go further /out/ but its fairly out. Tourist presence (and how hellish it is) varies by time of year +--- 2555033 +Morning lads. Loch Awe +--- 2555034 +>>2546926 +Didn't they recently ban camping on private land without consent? +--- 2555038 +>>2554915 +sat images will tell you a lot. it's worth getting used to using them as it's a great way to plan /out/ings. +--- 2555051 +>>2542167 +Agreed, got dragged half way across the country to work in Cardiff this weekend but I managed to sneak off early yesterday and walk up the sugar loaf just before sunset. +--- 2555062 +>>2555034 +>camping on private land without consent +Also known as Trespassing.... + +I think Scotland retains its right of way laws. Any green space is fair game. Fucking hilarious seeing a bunch of ramblers cruising about a golf course ruining all the toffs days +--- 2555205 +Missus wanted to go 'hiking' so we did Helm Crag here in Cumbria today while the weather was good. I took a tiny day pack that she wanted loaded with shit (handbag, three water bottles, phone power bank) all for a 2 hour hike at most. I took some poles (don't use them myself) because I thought she could do with them. Complained the way up, made her have the bag and she wore it for ten minutes before complaining how heavy it was. Explained to her that it was full of shit she wanted to take and she realised she might want to pack lighter next time. She really enjoyed it apparently, says she wants to do more /out/ in future. Found the poles more useful than I ever have, particularly on the descent. +--- 2555206 +>>2543882 +Fucking hell this is the dream. I know a playwright who lives the same narrow boat life and literally just drives around chilling, going to theatres where his plays are showing. +--- 2555210 +>>2555205 +Imagine the smell +--- 2555221 +Evening lads. Wew I feel a long way out. +--- 2555244 +>>2555221 +Do you live out there? Heard the housing market is absolute hell. +--- 2555250 +>>2555244 +Nah just yomping about for a week. Got a little hut. But yeah, only actually spoken properly to one Scotsman, everyone is either Southern or foreign other than in Fort William Morrison's lel. Loads of "lodges" and stuff for rich people around Loch Lomond and Glencoe on the way. +--- 2555314 +Blair atholl to glen feshie perhaps? Gonna do the first bit I think, then see how the river crossings are looking. It says Itll be raining anyway but fuck it I'll have a look I gotta go outside nigs +--- 2555544 +>>2543882 +That looks comfy as fuck anon. What are you reading? +--- 2555558 +>>2545992 +>>2546216 +How are waterways administered in England? Been wanting to build a coracle and float down some stretches of the Thames. Would this upset anybody? +--- 2555756 +>>2555558 +the Canal and River Trust (CRT) are in charge of the majority of inland waterways and you need a license to use them. Some (including the Thames iirc) are managed by the Environment Agency. This includes things like canoes/kayaks and SUPs but desu I don't think the majority know/care and it's not really enforced. It's mostly enforced for narrowbats, widebeams and cruisers (for which we get a license and display a number on our boat). For a little coracle, you're probably entirely fine and if some jobsworth tries to do anything, well... they can't really do anything. Give it a go imo +--- 2555896 +Off to Bakewell for the weekend this Friday. Any recommendations that won't be shit and full of tourists and/or old cunts? Preferably in or around the Thornbridge Brewery taproom? Ta. +--- 2555913 +>>2549854 +Such a shame to see grouse shooting fags still setting our moorlands ablaze, saw the Scottish parliament was looking at laws restricting this practice though +--- 2555963 +>>2555913 +Poach them if you want to stop it +--- 2556002 +>>2554908 +I'd imagine it's fairly boring in terms of scenery. Just boggy hills and plains. Definitely out of the way tho +--- 2556004 +southern Ireland +--- 2556006 +>>2556004 +Nothing better than a swampy wood on a rainy day +--- 2556008 +>>2556006 +Something comfortable about blue light, used to wish I lived further south where the lighting is brighter and happier like you see in california or something +--- 2556064 +>>2555913 +come on, muirburns fine. Means less bracken in my boots +--- 2556068 +>>2556004 +>southern Ireland +we like to call it the republic +--- 2556073 +>>2552206 +Get into spearfishing. +Jersey is one of the best spots in the UK for that. +--- 2556080 +>>2555913 +Moor fires are pretty kino though. +Also, I don't think the issue is as black and white as most people think. Grouse moors actually support a lot of wildlife, especially birds of prey (even with gamekeepers persecuting then). +Unmanaged moors are not healthy. The RSPB have taken over a few former grouse moors and left them unmanaged and it's been terrible for the wildlife. +The other issue is that if you remove grouse shooting you remove the value from the land, and it will inevitably end up being sold to the forestry commission or a private forestry firm who will cover it in a confier plantation (this happened with many former grouse moors). Grouse moors might not be perfect but they are far far better for biodiversity than forestry plantations are. +--- 2556081 +Fuck I'm glad I wasn't born on an island that's been stripped of wilderness. The pre-roman history is pretty cool though. +--- 2556090 +>>2556081 +based but if you cycle up near cape wrath, there's shit to see. on cloud-cover days, you can hear the bombs they're "testing" and their afterburners. +--- 2556151 +>>2555913 +Only problem with grouse fags is the pay +Cunts try pay me £7 an hour to march up and down the hills and I get the privilege of bunking with a bunch of teenagers who won't shut the fuck up at night +It sounded cool in theory but when I actually went there did a few days and worked out the pay I was like nah no wonder it's just teenagers and Slavic people willing to do it +--- 2556157 +Been stuck at a stoppage for a few days (during the winter they close some sections for maintenance of locks, towpaths, etc) but it cleared this afternoon. Back moving, feels good. 10 locks later and I've earned my fucking pint +--- 2556159 +>>2556151 +Every estate is different. I've worked at a few which are like summer camps for neds, but I worked 5 seasons at one that was less profit-driven, more concerned with providing the LARPING experience to the toffs; for that reason they tried not to hire real arseholes as beaters. Genuinely happiest memories of my life getting pissed with those guys in the bothy and arsing about the moors all August. +--- 2556189 +>>2556068 +I live in the south of the Republic. Ireland is just Ireland to me, no shade towards the unionists but they live on an island called Ireland regardless of politics. +--- 2556212 +>>2555913 +Aye cunts. Moors and heath are great for a lof of stuff. Would be better if managed for habitats rather than the needs of one species. Burns occur when reptiles are emerging. Lots of BBQ adders. Cunts the lot of them +--- 2556214 +Skye is just different gravy. Wow. + +Some American girl took some pictures of me in the distance and then offered to WhatsApp them to me, so I gave her my number. +--- 2556218 +Thoughts on Hadrian's Wall? +--- 2556280 +>>2556159 +I tried it at hunthill if you've ever heard of it. honestly I think I'd have liked it if I stuck around but I'm pretty allergic to sharing my living space with people And I rolled the fuck outa my ankle day 1 thanks to lower cut boots, and sick pay is unheard of so I had to make the choice and go work onna building site instead. Have to pay the rent somehow, I think beating is better suited to people who don't rent. Pay would have been somewhat justifiable if I didn't have any expenses but alas. The hills were fucking big ones, lovely estate. I'd run up and down them for free but when they had us going 9 hours on 60 something quid a day with no chance of me getting proper sleep thanks to a wanker eating Pringles at 3am.. +--- 2556334 +>>2556218 +Thoughts on these balls? +>>2556214 +shit larp +--- 2556343 +>>2556334 +Isn't though is it +--- 2556354 +>>2556280 +I've done a few days at Hunthill to earn extra on the weekends, it was shite. Beautiful estate, but shite work culture. Invermark was the estate I was speaking highly of. I think it's gone to shit too since I was there. +Yeah there's no way I could see anyone covering living expenses off a beater's wage. It was good for me as I was homeless between stints at uni, so I didn't need to earn I only had to eat. +--- 2556536 +>>2556354 +I should have done it before I committed to getting a flat baka. I might still try some beating one year but not at fuckin hunthill +I just want my comfy park ranger job back but fuck me for not having 20 years of experience and all the loicenses for every bit of equipment imaginable. This/out/ job shit ain't working +--- 2556539 +>>2556214 +>Some American girl took some pictures of me in the distance and then offered to WhatsApp them to me, so I gave her my number. +how does this feel +--- 2556542 +Hello brit anons. I wanna come to your island to build some outdoor skills. Can I do the west highland way in winter (wildcamping) if I'm very fit or am I gonna die? I have winter gear. +--- 2556550 +>>2556542 +Thing about Scotland is river crossings, entirely depends on the weather. it's worth a try anyway but if it's a windy rainy one shit could potentially get serious quite fast unless you really know your shit. The wind might rip your tent down and dump rain all over your sleeping gear, if you have kit that you know stands up to these kind of conditions I say yolo it. But if your previous winter experience wasn't inna windy wet mountains I'd be careful +--- 2556575 +>>2556542 +Where are you coming from. +--- 2556595 +>>2556550 +I have no experience camping or hiking. I will do as much research/reading as possible but there's only so much you can learn that way. I know summer camping first is the smart way to go about this but I really can't be arsed. I'm just interested in winter outdoor stuff. Kit is definitely not the problem, it's all legit winter gear, if I get in trouble it will be my own fault + +>>2556575 +France + +Typing this I realise I sound like a retard but I just really wanna get out there. Worst case I just cut the trip short and go to the nearest town and ask around for a hotel. I doubt I'll die unless I drop my whole pack in a lake or something +--- 2556722 +>>2556595 +>France +>Typing this I realise I sound like a retard but I just really wanna get out there. Worst case I just cut the trip short and go to the nearest town and ask around for a hotel. I doubt I'll die unless I drop my whole pack in a lake or something +Just needed to you know aren't dutch. You won't die, just take waterproof everything, socks included, and pack a warm sleeping bag and wool layers. +Don't listen to what anyone on reddit says, the weather is not "sub-arctic" and you don't need anything more than a phone +--- 2556744 +>>2556722 +are dutch people not welcome in scotland? +--- 2556759 +>>2556189 +solid response, I was just pulling your chain! +--- 2556823 +>>2556744 +clog up the roads, whites only anyway +--- 2556838 +>>2542159 (OP) +>Brit/out/ +>Brit +>/out/ +--- 2557377 +>>2542159 (OP) +Wondering if you lads can give me a few tips. I've not been camping in years but soon I'll get the full kit for solo 2-3 night camps this summer. + +I just need a location (I'm in Yorkshire), with nice forest/woodland and solitude. Some fishing would also be nice. Where should I go? Kielder? +--- 2557433 +>>2557377 +Dalby forest +--- 2557641 +>>2557377 +Seconding this. +I'm not in Yorkshire but it's the closest "out" me. +I've bought a tarp and plan on going motorbike camping. +--- 2557643 +>>2556838 +The most embarrassing thing about Brits on /out/ is that they always have catastrophic threads where they whine about the lack of nature in the UK, and then contemplate moving or killing themselves. Those threads outnumber the successful Brit threads ten to one, and it makes threads like this look silly and nonsensical. +--- 2557875 +>>2557643 +It's just because channers are city dwelling introverts and there isn't a Horizon Zero Dawn world in walking distance of their terraced 2up 2down. +--- 2557968 +>>2557643 +we have nature but the noses cut it all down and i shoot it all +--- 2558242 +summer starts now +--- 2558298 +>>2558242 +Walked over that viaduct, was cool af +--- 2558377 +>>2555318 +At least they are kept under lock and quay. +--- 2558427 +>>2558377 +Very nice. +--- 2558624 +>>2557643 +this doesn't happen +>>2557377 +kielder is big and empty but kinda artificial and plantation-y +--- 2559589 +is there any fungus in the UK or shit like that where just inhaling near it will fuck me up? recently been going in the woods more and been coming across dead rotting animals and worried I might inhale some shit that kills me or makes me sick or some shit +--- 2560535 +>>2559589 +Nah. Not really. Certain funguses can cause respiratory issues but only when inhaled over a long period. Talking about molds in damp buildings for example. +Out and about in the woods I don't there is anything to worry about. + +What sort of dead animals were you seeing? It's almost certainly not caused by fungus. +It's not unusual to see dead animals towards the end of winter. Especially deer. +--- 2560537 +>>2547006 +I dunno bro, all we have is bigger fields with more sheep, it’s all owned land and you’re unlikely to get away with having a fire. +Saying that I’ve found my few niche places and I’m comfy with them +--- 2560539 +>>2557377 +If you want real big woodland, you have 3 options: +>picrel +A: Those plantation woods on the southern part of the moors. Pretty shit plantation, but it is pretty empty and on the edge of the moors so you have access to the amazing coastline +B: Grisedale. On the southern part of the lakeland, can get quite busy and is somewhat dispersed by small farmlands and also some buildings. Most of it is actualy ancient woodland though and it is far better quality than the other 2. Best to get there before summer peak season, but should be OK if you stay off the beaten path. +C: kielder. very huge, very empty. Just plantation. Nice views of the lake, though. Lots of wildlife including wild goats, marten, polecats, red squirrel and some other rare animals such as birds of prey. This is the largest and most isolated spot, but the forest is mostly sitka plantation. +--- 2560540 +>>2557643 +>The most embarrassing thing about Brits on /out/ is that they always have catastrophic threads where they whine about the lack of nature in the UK, and then contemplate moving or killing themselves. + +It's the same one poster who makes those threads always. The UK is actually one of the best countries in europe for /out/, just because of scotland. +--- 2560547 +>>2560535 +>>2560539 +You seek knowledgable, do you know any fungi that can cause harm being burned and inhaled? +Have had a proper whooping cough for a week now after having a fire with logs that had coral spot, I didn’t notice because it was dark until I was chucking in the last log and the fire was illuminating it enough to see the redness. +--- 2560557 +>>2560547 +All I know is that some fungi can cause infections if burnt and inhaled. If you're suffering just call your gp. They will get it checked out and then you can stop worrying. No use speculating as you don't know which fungus you actually inhaled. +--- 2560604 +haven't had a good /out/ing in a couple of years now. anyone have any good suggestions close to the central belt in Scotland? +--- 2560707 +Met the legend that is Callum at the car park in Glen Torridon. + +He didn't want any carrot, apparently his thing is chocolate Hobnobs +--- 2561022 +>>2560535 +foxes and deer but each one it's like they're just dying with no marks or trauma which is why it seemed weird, cheers for the response fella +--- 2561161 +what app/platform/website do you guys use to find stuff to do around you? feel like I got fuck all around me. went to Petworth House last year and that was nice. was thinking of going to a living museum next +--- 2561164 +>>2543414 +Just realised I was standing where you are in this photo in October... +>>2561161 +Grindr +--- 2561200 +>>2561164 +>Grindr +doesn't surprise me. every brit I've seen and talked to is either a massive faggot or reeks of closet homo +--- 2561213 +>>2560707 +They shouldn't feed it human food for its own good, absolutely misguided. Derp let's give it a human name and feed it biscuits like a dog +--- 2561229 +Anyone got plans for the easter bank holiday? +--- 2561440 +>>2561229 +Yeah +--- 2561441 +>>2561229 +ohh husbant +--- 2561475 +>>2561022 +I wouldnt worry about it +--- 2561504 +>>2561229 +Quick little run from London to Newhaven. +--- 2561510 +>>2560539 +i wish we still had proper forests lads... +it saddens me greatly that i'll never see what our island looked like before we fucked it up +--- 2561520 +I've been doing some indoor bouldering for a while now, what are some good locations for doing the actual thing (without getting myself killed) +--- 2561547 +>>2558242 +Looks lovely anon, where abouts is that? +--- 2561575 +>>2561504 +the fuck is that? +--- 2561580 +>>2561440 +Care to elaborate? +--- 2561586 +>>2560539 +>>2557377 +Ive camped in location B, by Windemere. Great experience marred only slightly by the newbie wanting to stream netflix. + +>>2561510 +You and me both mate. Sometimes when im walking and find a patch where the trees seem unbroken I imagine what it would be like to see them stretch away. I do the same on the hills, when I cant see the towns in the valleys. Just imagine a wild landscape stretching off. +--- 2561604 +>>2561575 +Vanguard way apparently +--- 2561646 +>>2561229 +Working on my allotment. Putting in a raised bed and getting thr soil ready for asparagus. Hoping to get a new rucksack (probably one of the savotta ones) before then too, but I'm not in any rush. +--- 2561662 +did a ~6 mile circular route saturday afternoon. undulating route that dropped into 3 valleys very pleasant but second stage out of bretherdale up to shap fell was very boggy and nearly got turned around trying to find the bridle path. path down from shap was an old roman road and there were some cool abandoned farm houses at bretherdale. ended up being more interesting than expected. +--- 2561663 +>>2561662 +Lad it's almost 2am. Go to sleep. +--- 2561665 +>>2561663 +could say same to you pal +--- 2561698 +>>2542159 (OP) +in relation to op question as to lessons learned. +i have learned that in an area of mass tourism and old farm buildings being converted into luxury housing, seeing homes that have been left to nature, holding generations of memories, is much preferable to expensive bougie renovations. +--- 2562477 +I've not got much time left on my free bus pass, where abouts in Scotland do i go this summer? +--- 2562662 +>>2562477 +I heard glasgows nice +--- 2563354 +Thoughts? They're like halfway between a trail walker and a boot + +Like £55, seems cheap +--- 2563475 +>>2560539 +Thanks, this is exactly what I was after +--- 2563997 +Anyone ever seen tay tay in lake district? I think she lived there for some time +--- 2564015 +>>2561698 +>live there for 10 years and by law it's my property + +If I camp there for 3650 nights, I can claim it as my own. How would one go about this? Would they eventually come and drag me off the thing, saying that I was "trespassing on a historic/natural area" and then I'd lose my squatter's rights? + +Make a dug-out shelter in the vicinity of it, hidden underground? +--- 2564510 +>>2561547 +Glenfinnan +--- 2564773 +>>2543414 +Fellow millshit user? +--- 2564783 +>>2542159 (OP) +>Post British out tales here +I'm not british I'm american. But I walked the Thames path starting at the ocean and all the way to the source. It was amazing. Britain has some very good trail systems, you are allowed to walk across private property (if it's on the trail). The Thames path is not like the Appalachian trail it is very flat, but so beautiful. And so many chances to stop every few days at a classic pub and have a pint after a long day walking. Slept in tents the entire time, usually in a random person's field. We were always gone by morning and left no trash, the few people who did question us were always surprised and welcoming. Impressed that Americans would do this, very unusual I guess. This was all around the time that Chelsea was in the champions league semis with Barcelona in '11 or '12, I remember getting into a small town exhausted and tired but just in time to catch the game and a few pints with the locals. Good times. Chelsea went on to win that year. + +I've also done some of the trails around cornwall, very impressive scenery but the Thames Path, the people I met along the way, the whole experience was incredible for me. I love england and real english culture I hate to see it dying and being overrun. +--- 2564784 +>>2564783 +I also larped a lot as a roman legionary who was stationed in britain. Seems random but I was reading a book at the time about Romans in Britain and there were a few days that were pretty long, 15-20 mile days in the rain and I larped as a legionary marching in the rain it was pretty kino and I remember that time fondly. +--- 2565074 +>>2563997 +i'm from the area, she visited once when she was dating harry styles. this was about 8 years ago. was a big fuss at the time but hadn't heard anything about permanent residency though she did write a song about the area. + +>>2564015 +from what i saw the area is still on the land of a farm further down the valley. although no one lives there a farmer on a quadbike arrived in the area when we were there and some of the buildings appeared to still be in use for hay storage. so you may have issues with the farmers if you tried to squat. beyond that im not sure, i don't think they're listed historical buildings but as i said they lie on owned land that is still farmed and regularly visited. +--- 2565094 +I'm thinking of traversing the High Weald. +--- 2565183 +>>2542679 +>my first time camping overnight +so your first time camping? +--- 2565224 +There's a camping spot in some private woodland that my friends have gone to for years, and other random people go there as well. 4 of us went this Friday for 2 nights, left this morning (Sunday), but 2 land owners turned up around 9am before we left this time and 3 of us were still in bed. One of them was pretty pissed and took a video of us, the camp and more importantly the plates on my friends' bikes. My friend who had been awake for a while did the talking, was pretty apologetic and the other guy took it well and calmed the angry one down a bit. Angry one still said he'd call the police if he came back tomorrow and there was rubbish left. Blamed us for mess that wasn't ours and said he's always cleaning up in here, but the last time we came here was August last year and there's still the same rubbish lying around, so we know that's not true. We weren't going to leave our rubbish anyway, but I still litter picked the close area and left it cleaner than when we arrived, so not worried about the police threat. +--- 2565256 +I kayaked in Windermere (Cumbria) today. Was freaking awesome. +--- 2565781 +>>2565094 +southern england would be so comfy without all the people in it +--- 2566080 +>>2565781 +It really is a beautiful part of the country when you manage to find rural spots. +--- 2566098 +>>2566080 +They're not hard to find, you just need to explore and not tell anyone +--- 2567650 +can anyone recommend a good penknife (3 inch blade, folding, non-locking), something we cucks can legally carry without needing an excuse +and suitable for making wood shavings +--- 2567694 +>>2562477 +follow the A7 south of gorebridge until you find a spot you like +--- 2567698 +>>2555034 +>>2555062 +right to roam, as long as you're being respectful and leave if asked you can go where you like +england has like 2% public land and no right to roam +also the whole dartmoor case is still subject to appeal and not final but yes the posh gits won +--- 2567784 +>>2567650 +Whitby make good stuff in the UK. Failing that, get an Opinel and remove the collar or use an SAK. Also, consider the fact that almost all /out/ activities are reasonable grounds for carrying a Mora. +--- 2567824 +i've been told you nonces need special footwear to go a walk + +whats wrong with white air force 1s? +--- 2568105 +>go in to decathlon to buy new boot laces +>end up spending £70 on random shit +>get home and realise I didn't buy the fucking boot laces + +On a side note, the forclaz stuff is amazing value. Bought a cook kit and a headlamp and really impressed by the quality to price ratio. +--- 2568120 +>>2568105 +Decathlon's fucking legit for high street/cheap gear. Their boots do the business and I really like the MH120 fleeces. +--- 2568121 +Hey I am planning on going wild camping for a few weeks in Europe, I know its probably stupid but it needs to be done. + +I will have a largish rucksack with me and I will be potsntially in hostels at some points or stopping for dinner or xoffee etc. + +What is the most budget friendly way to track my bag (preferably can buy on amazon) so I can find it if lost or stolen +--- 2568141 +>>2568121 +befriend trustworthy people, get their number(make sure it actually works), take their picture, and leave your bag with them in exchange for a fair price +of course there is always a chance you get swindled but if they are willing to let you photograph them and let you check their number works i'd say you have a better than average chance of keeping your stuff safe + +or just get a much smaller bag for all your essentials that you strap to your thigh while the gear bag is in the hostel +--- 2568274 +>>2568121 +Airtags, 25 a piece, need an iPhone tho +--- 2568447 +What do British campers eat? I imagine You can take as much meat as You can eat since there are no bears/wolves/cougars etc. +--- 2568486 +>>2568447 +Very much so. The principle limiting factors on camping food are local fire/stove restrictions, and rain. Neither of those are very big limitations either as fire byelaws are laxly enforced in most places anyway. +--- 2568525 +>>2568486 +could probably have full blown barbeques in the wood if not for all the ants +--- 2568526 +These are great for UK life. Pulls apart and stashes flat, wighs hardly anything. +--- 2568564 +>>2568447 +https://www.youtube.com/@KentSurvival/videos +Pretty much eat whatever you want. diff --git a/out/2543379.txt b/out/2543379.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3988097911a3657b3cc1e0e7b0ed4973c5af88c2 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2543379.txt @@ -0,0 +1,977 @@ +----- +--- 2543379 +Homestead General +Red Barn Edition +>Thread 02 + +This thread is for people who would like to live, or are already living, completely or partially off their land in a self sufficient way. + +Old Thread: >>2500534 +--- 2543381 +>>2543379 (OP) +getting this chart out of the way +--- 2543794 +I've been dreaming about homesteading for years and it seems like something you have to jump into and figure it out. +I want a big off grid 800sqft insulated concrete form house with a cellar. On a budget of $60k and ICF not really being something easily modified it seems unrealistic to have everything up and running from the start. I'm thinking about getting a camper, small solar bank, and roughing it for a couple years so I know what is actually needed. Starting small and eventually growing into it. The well will probably cost $4k based on what others have told me. Swap out small propane tanks for cooking and heat. As the 'I wish...' thoughts pop up hopefully a natural flow will develop and things gradually become more self sufficient and leads to a permanent and more comfortable living arrangement. My family has rural land in the Midwest I can larp on so the $60k should be enough to get something started, even if it's not the full orchard, garden supplying 100% of fruits and vegetables, pigs, ducks, rabbits, foundry, machine shop, vaulted underground chamber with pool, sauna, and orangery 100% turnkey from day one operation. +I'm told the county is lenient so you can build pretty much whatever. Don't even have to do a septic tank since lagoons are legal here. +No clue what I'm doing but I'm tired of everything. After the well and camper I'm selling my house and hoping for the best. Just want to play little neet on the prairie. +--- 2543807 +Really wish I knew the answer to the goat vs sheep debate. Should I just flip a coin at this point? + +I'd love to have wool for making clothes and stuff (pic related) but I also want milk and dairy sheep are impossible to find around here. Also goats are more profitable. And I have about 10 acres overgrown with multiflora rose which would suit goats far better. +--- 2543884 +>>2543807 +Sounds to me like goats are the way to go. + +Why not get angora goats and use for them to produce mohair wool? +--- 2544599 +>>2543794 +Nice story anon. You are blessed. Good luck with your adventure. +--- 2544684 +is this the larp general. +we already have /hgm/ +--- 2544856 +>>2543807 +get a dairy cow +--- 2545726 +we went with dairy sheep. awassi/lacon/east fresion cross. + +we raise guinea hogs now. did berkshire last year. + +we have red bourbon turkeys, cortunix quail, Americana, Rhode island and rock chickens (not cross bred) and we buy Cornish x rock meat birds each year. we also raise welsh harlequin and silver Appleyard ducks. + +we raise Tamuk meat rabbits. + +we are moving from the outskirts of our city to a 10 acre homestead in the country in about 3 months... as soon as the house construction is complete. + +3 bedroom, 2 bath, 400 sqft basement. + +house is triple redundant for off grid and disaster living. + +it has complete solar and battery storage, mini-split HVAC, Propane option, wood stove heat, wood cook oven in kitchen, Propane oven in kitchen. + +water well and septic. + +year one at the new homestead, so it will grow from here. + +we are trying to get our gardens set up. we already have 2 cubic yards of compost to start with, from our current home. 1st year gardens will be hit and miss. + +we began planting our orchard last fall and are continuing now. apricots arriving next week. +--- 2545804 +>>2544684 +Hgm is for gardening? This is for everything /homestead/ minus gardening. Beekeeping, barn-raising, animal husbandry, land-clearing, aquaculture, well-digging, remote work setups, range waifu finding, etc. All /homstread/ related topics welcome. +--- 2546057 +Any good /horse/ youtube channels? I really enjoy Greg Judy's ranching videos but he doesn't focus on horses much, I tried lurking /an/ but I think they want to fuck horses not raise them. +--- 2546083 +>>2543379 (OP) +How do I get my driver's license bros +--- 2546272 +>>2545726 +Love to hear this anon. What part of the country? +--- 2546656 +>>2543794 +when my uncle built his cabin he piped in a dugout for water and put in a sewage lagoon +he rented a backhoe and did it all himself for cheap +theres a holding tank in the basement, he just adds a small amount of household bleach to the water +its not potable, but its fine for showers, dishes and flushing the toilet +he just refills those water cooler jugs at his friends for potable water +it costs him about $20 a month if he buys it at a refill station +--- 2546699 +>>2545804 +HGM is for all those things in addition to gardening. This thread is for larping. Notice there is only one post so far from someone who raises livestock of any kind. +The term "homestead" is a magnet for LARPers and maladaptive daydreamers. +--- 2546704 +>>2546699 +why does every thread have to be ruined by some poster that has to make it personal? +every single fucking thread, its the same MO +name calling, personal attacks, speculation about any dectractors emotional state or ethnicity +claims that youre triggered, even if you are just politely disagreeing, total projection +bunch of 'good cop, bad cop' samefag posting +its the same thing every time +im convinced its one guy +--- 2546706 +>>2546699 +this you? +>"Maladaptive daydreaming (MD) defines excessive use of fantasy which replaces human interaction and/or interferes with academic, interpersonal, or vocational functioning. This study tests psychometric properties of the Polish version of the Maladaptive Daydreaming " +so if it's interpersonal, and productive toward the self, as such is my relationship with God and my dreams respectively, it isn't maladaptive, but, I think you're just sort of a nihilist about starting over cause you know the owner of the world is satan, BUT, remember the Love between you and God, and then the love between others, that is why you are in this world. That's it. The rest is satan, and iniquity. (not saying I'm good at practicing this either). Plus, it does say, take care of the land, so, whatever land or community you're in, take care of it. +youre a loser +--- 2546707 +>>2546704 +Post a chicken or rabbit or even a bee. PLEASE prove me wrong. +--- 2546714 +>>2546704 +Maybe two or three, but definitely assholes who think they can gatekeep something like going outside +--- 2546716 +>>2546714 +>gatekeep something like going outside +Yeah it's really shitty that someone would gatekeep going outside, it's really simple and fun to go outside and there's no way to do it wrong. All that matters is that people get out there. +So, since you go outside would you mind sharing some of your experiences from going outside? Since this is a homesteading thread I'd love to hear about your homesteading experience or see pictures of your homestead. +--- 2546723 +>>2544684 +>>2546699 +>>2546707 +>>2546716 +now that they evidence has been provided, the goalposts will be moved +the evidece will be rejected for something arbitrary +followed by ad hominems, deflection, cherry picking, even outright lying +every dishonest tactic he can muster +when that doesnt work hell start same fagging with a slightly more reasonable perspective to create the illsuion of consensus +its the same shit every time, its the same guy +its probably a schizo from pol +--- 2546725 +>>2546707 +How can i start with chicken? Do you have pdf, books and how can i build a chicken coop? Also do you have some blueprint for a good chicken coop? +--- 2546727 +>>2546716 +Started off subtle, but it's still obvious you're salty. 4/10 +--- 2546732 +>>2546707 +and by the way, what kind of retard feeds his chicken whole corn +get a mill dumb shit +--- 2546736 +>>2546723 +Awesome sheep man, I wish there were more people in this thread like you +>>2546725 +Unfortunately I can't really help you because I was in a unique situation where I was able to barter for a chicken coop that was way nicer than anything I could make myself so I don't have any blueprints for you. If I were you I would find a YouTube video on how to build one and follow it along, making minor modifications if necessary for your situation. There is a ton of information on YouTube and online in general about chickens. I would personally not waste any money on books. +>>2546727 +>>2546732 +Still waiting for pics, "homesteader" +--- 2546738 +>>2546736 +>Awesome sheep man, I wish there were more people in this thread like you +>Still waiting for pics, "homesteader" +now hes pretending to not know that im the same guy +i told you, i fucking told you he would reject the evidence +how can a supposedly religious person be so dishonest? +--- 2546742 +>>2546738 +Well, in his defense, there are no default poster IDs on this board that I can see. Other than that he's a useless cunt who didn't read the OP. +--- 2546744 +>>2546738 +If (you) are the guy complaining about gatekeeping than I am not really sure what your problem is because as someone who raises livestock (you) are not the problem. The problem is the people who do not and will not ever garden/homestead/farm/whatever outnumbering people like you and me 10 to 1. At best they add nothing to the conversation and at worst they regurgitate false information and become belligerent when called out. Keeping them out of the conversation is not gatekeeping anymore than ignoring sex advice from a virgin is gatekeeping. Even such I am happy to answer legitimate and thoughtful questions they may have, but I won't be entertaining questions like "how much land to I need to be 100% self sufficient" or "how much money do I need to run away from my parents and build an off grid cabin" etc +If you are the person talking about milling corn I don't do it because the chickens eat it as is so milling would be a waste of time. I buy "deer corn" on sale after hunting season as a cheap feed supplement for the winter. +--- 2546764 +>>2546744 +to actual farmers were all larpers +we dont know shit +--- 2546778 +hey /homesteaders/ I bought 1 acre of land on a Greek island that gets tons of visitors a year. It is located a big off the beaten path though which is good, I get my space. + +I want to make it into a permaculture/homestead type place and sell high-value yippie shit to the tourists and potentially all the restaurants that serve them. + +Some thoughts: +>microgreens for restaurants +>selling "native plants seed balls" for like 1$ for 3, literally just mud and seeds in a small burlap baggy +>get some weird bird like emu and charge money to take a pic +>sell special salt from sea water that I dehydrate + +anyone have other ideas? Im thinking of buying more land to be self reliant, but for now this will do +--- 2546780 +>>2546764 +kek, some leathery old codger is standing in a field right now with his pitchfork saying "fucking larpers, they should lurk moar" +--- 2546868 +>>2546778 +Beekeeping is very rewarding and easy to sell. Difficult to turn a profit depending on your market. +--- 2546884 +>>2543807 +You could raise both. Goats browse while sheep graze, so as long as you have both brush AND grass they can both feed. Only issue is some differing mineral needs like copper. Sheep need less of it and can OD on goat copper supplements. I once heard someone recommend putting the mineral lick somewhere high that the goats can climb to but the sheep can't. + +Goats are definitely easier than sheep and tend to have better milk production, so bear that in mind if you can only have one. +--- 2546967 +>>2546868 +Yea i will do beekeeping but just for me and friends and family +--- 2547163 +>>2543379 (OP) +I'd like to give homesteading a shot. While I'd like to start small, land around me is expensive as fuck (like $100k+ for 1 acre) and still located in/close to neighborhoods. There is a forested 5-acre plot that's actually fairly cheap (comparatively), but I worry that might be too much land for starting out. + +I'm also hesitant about moving more than a couple hour drive away from family and friends, as I feel like they're the only thing keeping me from going full social recluse and I would miss our biweekly gatherings. If I wasn't single moving away wouldn't be so intimidating, but tfw forever alone. + +Do I just bite the bullet and buy expensive land, figure out a plan for the 5 acres, or admit I'm a cuck who thinks too much? +--- 2547168 +>>2547163 +For more info, I'd plan to build my own home on the land, raise a few chickens (maybe someday goats), grow some food, and use solar to try and reduce grid dependence. +--- 2547239 +>>2546778 +that's actually super cool. Pick-your-own and charging for it might be a good business. Those operations tend to have great margins, with the trade-off being that they cannot scale easily. +--- 2547243 +>>2547163 +>>2547168 +first you have to get a job +--- 2547253 +>>2547243 +I do have a job... +--- 2547346 +>>2546780 +yes I am +--- 2547348 +>>2543794 +>Swap out small propane tanks for cooking and heat. +You're not off grid or homesteading if you're dependent on the grid for fuel. Even if you're not aiming for off grid try to minimize your dependency on the grid as much as possible to prepare for bad times. Aim for a place that has enough trees for your heating and cooking needs. Calculate the BTUs you'll need in a year, convert that to trees you'd need per year, and then buy a lot with 15-20x those trees and replant 1-2x what you chopped down the year before. I consult with energy use and this is how I help rural/off gridders heat themselves. + +Hell, I just get a salvage permit for my cabin/camping, way cheaper than a felling permit. All in all good dream anon I wish you luck. Try and do as much work yourself if you can, cost of labour is a real bitch now. +--- 2547390 +what i bought +--- 2547405 +>>2547390 +>$79 +??? +--- 2547413 +>>2547405 +!!!! +--- 2547645 +>>2543379 (OP) +How bad would it be if I set up in the general area near a wastewater treatment plant? +--- 2547648 +>>2547645 +You might get some shitty results. +--- 2547949 +>>2546967 +And for me, great thanks! +--- 2548234 +>>2547163 +good luck anon +--- 2548453 +>>2547163 +>>2547168 +I'm in the same position, been researching this for a long time. Last year finally bought a small plot of land. I'd recommend that you don't go balls deep yet. You should buy a plot of under an acre, whatever you can afford, and try small scale projects. Yes wooded land tends to be cheaper but clearing it can be a lot of labor and/or expense. Plus installing utilities, which you will need if you want to build a home or sell it at some point. This is why I recommend you just buy a regular vacant lot, they will be already cleared and typically have utilities so you have a clean slate and it's feasible to sell it at a later point. The ones in core urban areas tend to be expensive, but if you go a bit further out you should eventually be able to find one for around $30k/acre, unless you live in some yuppie-infested shithole. + +A typical suburban plot of 1/4-1/2 an acre is plenty to grow most if not all of your diet plus keep some chickens for eggs. You could also get some goats and import feed but IMO that defeats the purpose since ideally you should be grazing them. With larger livestock in general I think it's much better to lease grazing land by probing the area and asking people if you can lease. I don't have any animals yet but I started doing this just to see. Before buying my plot I also asked dozens of people to lease their land for growing crops, and it seems people are way more receptive to grazing than growing crops. Probably because you're just letting animals roam for a while rather than tearing up their ground to create a jungle. For more on this I highly recommend Greg Judy on jewtube. + +Also mowing lawns is a good idea. On top of making some cash, if you get a lawn tractor with a bagging attachment you can save the grass to use either for green manure or feeding livestock. +--- 2548457 +>>2548453 +Also building a house is a ton of work without lots of help. If you really want to do it you should try building a tiny home. And getting it up to code can be a bitch, there are guides for it. If you just want a place to live then buying a prefabbed one is better. + +Really if you're on your own the point should be more about developing skills. There's a reason why the few people who succeed in homesteading tend to have a big family and network of people to rely on. To do really serious shit you need to work with others, no matter what the antisocial spergs on here say. + +I'd even say that homesteading, or at least an over emphasis on it, is unnatural. It's a relic of the colonial era when people needed to settle vast expanses of untamed land, so families had to split up and work on their own. Even then there was still a good deal of cooperation between families. The ideal is a village-like community full of resourceful people. However those are non-existent if you live in an *nglo country, so here we are. +--- 2548522 +>>2547348 +I've been reading a bit more about using wood. I was under the impression you needed a lot of land for it but people are getting 0.5 cords wood/acre/yr just growing for timber by grabbing dead or misshapen trees. Switching to all electric or possibly biogas at some point if I ever get animals is doable, but that is probably a harder than using either wood or electric. +Wood is attractive in the sense that there is less than that can go wrong. More romantic than electric for sure. Are there any books on the subject you liked? I guess it can't be terribly hard to figure out but I'm not at the place right now so I have a lot of downtime. Osage seems like a good one to plant. +--- 2548663 +>>2543379 (OP) +bump +--- 2548668 +>>2548457 +>>2548453 + +Best of luck to you, anon. Hope it works out nicely. +--- 2548749 +I'm having trouble starting out tomato seeds. They've been in the starting mix for one week and still no signs of life. +What am I doing wrong? +--- 2548773 +>>2548749 +Make sure they're staying warm and wet enough? + +Try wrapping some in a wet paper towel in a ziploc baggie and leaving them somewhere warm for about a week +--- 2549069 +>>2548749 +temp? +--- 2549083 +>>2548749 +Tomatoes are always hit or miss with me. I’ve had 100% non starters and I’ve had plants which produced in year two. +--- 2549232 +>>2547390 +Use case +--- 2549911 +>>2546868 +Bees are great +--- 2549974 +>>2548522 +Look up the best species which grow in your area for pollarding and coppicing. I’ve been doing it the last few years with some invasive species growing on state land behind my house. I’m far from knowing anything about it except that it works. I get enough wood for a season of campfire cooking, but so far that’s all I’ve really been after. +--- 2549975 +>>2549911 +>Bees are great + +Just split my hive. Hoping it sticks. +--- 2550270 +>>2549975 +Very nice. 2 queens? +--- 2550915 +>>2546778 +godspeed anon +--- 2551232 +Planning on taking down three mature pecan trees this summer. We have more than we can harvest and need the space to put up a barn. Any creative ideas for what to do with the wood? I don't use wood heating much. My short list so far is hugelculture or start producing a mass amount of biochar +--- 2551321 +>>2551232 +Dry it? +--- 2551666 +>>2543379 (OP) +What is the purpose of the small towers on top? Lighting? +--- 2552148 +>>2551666 +Good question +--- 2552183 +>>2547390 +How much did it actually cost? +--- 2552212 +>>2551666 +Improves ventilation. +--- 2552368 +>>2543381 +What chart is this? +--- 2552438 +Sometimes I wonder if producing a good part of what I eat is actually possible. +My dozen chickens are pretty reliable for covering egg-needs, I heard that Dwarf goats are pretty good for cream/milk. + +It's the carbs that completely stump me. Potatoes don't grow well here, corn has been really unreliable the times I tried it. +Got a good harvest from beans, though my family didn't like eating them. +--- 2552520 +>>2543379 (OP) +How can I, a poorfag tech-wagie late-millennial saving up for land and living with family, get started with homesteading projects to make things less "zero to one hundred". Have yard, but I don't want to dominate the space. Ideas? +--- 2552524 +>>2548522 +How much is "a lot of land" to you? 3 acres of moderate to heavily forested, well managed by you, is plenty to support a single homes needs in a northern cooler climate forever. +--- 2552546 +>>2552438 +Keep trying more staple crops until you hit mix and amount that works. Overcoming the eating habits of family is the hardest challenge of you have the average to pull of the carbs part +--- 2552735 +>>2552438 +I realize this may be more of an ideological desire on your part than a practical one, but a good middle ground may be developing a personal comfort with trade and then switching over to rice. A diet of rice means that you can avoid processed carbs and all the baggage/obesity/diabetes that impacts normal westerners. Rice is dirt, cheap, easy to cook, and allows you to focus your farming on everything else. + +A good healthy diet like what is found in East Asia has a mass of more than 60% fruits and vegetables, then much smaller amounts of rice and animal protein. + +Your children, growing up with a daily intake of eggs, milk, poultry, and a small bowl of rice will keep them strong, lean, and healthy. +--- 2552740 +How do I cope with the fact I'll eventually need to cull my animals, for food or otherwise? I want to have some chickens and something bigger like goats or sheep, but I'm worried about being devastated emotionally when their time comes. +--- 2552754 +>>2552735 +Look up diabetes rates in rice cultures. You'll be disappointed with severity +--- 2552796 +>>2552740 +Offer thanks to their spirit for the sustenance. +--- 2552800 +>>2550270 +>two queens +I’ll check in a couple weeks. I took five frames full of brood, honey, and capped queen cups to put in the new hive and checkerboarded the old one. Hopefully both hives are queen right when I check in two weeks. +--- 2552803 +>>2552796 +Does this actually make any guilt go away? +--- 2552804 +>>2552803 +I don’t know. It’s the native way. I grew up hunting - and killing animals I raised. Not always for food. Taking care of an old dog you’ve had since a pup is probably the hardest thing anyone can do. +--- 2552807 +>>2552804 +>Taking care of an old dog you’ve had since a pup is probably the hardest thing anyone can do +My family didn't hunt or anything like that, but I can relate to this. Granted we took our dogs to the vet when their time came, but it was still absolutely soul crushing. I suppose I would just need to live with knowing I gave my animals the best life I could while I had them +--- 2552810 +>>2552807 +One of the things they did in the past was keep a productive animal as long as possible. Is the hen still laying? The cow still producing milk? Pigs are whatever. +--- 2553191 +>>2543379 (OP) +good thread +--- 2553227 +>>2543379 (OP) + +Any fish farmers here? + +The most peaceful way to kill a fish +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jazDzYdXmDc [Embed] +--- 2553254 +>>2543379 (OP) +Question for people who have made it: How much free time do you usually have after daily shores? +--- 2553399 +>>2552803 +I had to turn most of my animals into soup for awhile till I got used to the guilt. I didn't grow up hunting or anything. +--- 2553430 +>>2553399 +Stop being a pussy +--- 2553441 +>>2553430 +I'm killing and eating critters. What else do you want in this pissing contest? +--- 2553531 +>>2553399 +good luck anon +--- 2553537 +>>2543379 (OP) +How do I meet homestead quality wife-able QTs? +--- 2553541 +>>2553537 +much like a prize-winning hog, you have to nurture them yourself. +--- 2553567 +>>2553541 +So what, trick some lady into my basement and nurture her into the ideal stockholme syndrome homestead wife? +--- 2553697 +>>2553227 +Thats just a lobotomy for fish... +--- 2554340 +>>2553537 +According to the prior thread, this is the hardest problem when homesteading. Cities act as a vacuum and fill the impressionable with degenerate values. Lifestyle makes certain women unable to get married in the future. + +>>2553697 +Ikegaki and similar methods are not as widespread as you imagine. Essential for preserving, taste in fish and reducing animal cruelty. +--- 2554655 +>>2553537 +Good luck anon +--- 2554661 +>>2553537 +ugly church* girl is probably the best you'll do for joining you in your faggot shack. +*the extra kooky kind +--- 2554922 +>>2553227 +nice fish +--- 2554926 +>>2553537 +Smell nice. Be smart. Be kind. Be interesting. +--- 2555280 +>>2543379 (OP) +Is it a bad idea to buy reclaimed strip mine land? The land I'm looking at was mined for coal more than 30 years ago and was reclaimed pretty good. It has several acres of pine that will return most of the cost of purchase in less than 5 years. + +Is heavy metal contamination still an issue after 30 years? I want to turn most of the land into garden and pasture. I was going to make an offer on it tomorrow. +--- 2555353 +>>2555280 +Heavy metal contaminated more or less doesn't go away +--- 2555419 +>>2543807 +>>2546884 +Trying both is a good idea... You will never truly know until you see them for yourself. I did both and just made sure to put out sheep mineral buckets and then gave each of the goats a copper bolus, which is a little pill with copper shards... It gets in their digestive tract and they absorb it over the course of a year, meaning they get copper without ricking the sheep ODing on it. + +After my experience, I found that sheep are tamer and easier to keep in a fence. They tend to be more skittish though, so a good catch system and a lot of hands on time is important with them. Goats are BUTTS. Like if I had to give them all an analogy, it would be that sheep are dogs and goats are cats. Goats are bully's through and through, even when they are sweet. They won't fight you, but they will climb all over you to reach food and they break out of fences all the time, so a really good fence is a must. If there is a way out, they will find it and they will poop all over your porch. + +Unfortunately, sheep aren't really good for milking... So I'm stuck with a bunch of bullies that keep pooping on my porch. +--- 2555439 +It's still another month until I can plant out and I keep ordering/buying plants and seeds. Send help. +--- 2555443 +>>2555280 +maybe, maybe not +I'd pay a company to analyze a sample of soil and a sample of groundwater from the place +it's not that expensive in the grand scheme of things and will come in handy if/when you start growing crops +--- 2555474 +>>2555280 +sunflowers will pull up heavy metals +just use any extra seed as birdseed +--- 2555518 +>>2552740 +Not trying to be condescending, but.... +Does it bother you to buy meat from the store? If anything, that should bother you more because most of those animals live off minimal pasture and they live very short lives. With your own animals, you call the shots. You decide how long they live, which means you could let them live longer. You manage the land they graze on, so you can make sure it isn't overpopulated. You take care of their medical needs and handling,so the handler-animal relationship will likely be a closer bond than they would have had elsewhere. You can give them an all around better life and be more self sufficient in the process. +What I found the hardest, is actually accidental deaths. You are going to have animals just up and die on you. Most of which is because herd animals are really good at hiding when they aren't well. You have to be very attentive to their normal behaviour to pick up on the early signs. Sometimes you won't know until it's too late, but you will never pick up this skill if you don't start somewhere. + +My advice for this is to make friends with someone who already homesteads... You can find them on craigslist by the ads of new livestock for sale. Ask around and see if any of them will give you hands-on, in-person advice since you might be buying your starting animals from them. +--- 2555720 +>>2552754 +This is primarily because EA/SEA cultures don't have as long a history of dairy and appropriate exercise. + +Processed foods have also rekt them since the 20th century. + +On average for a person who gets appropriate exercise, a diet that is heavy on home-prepared veggies and rice is superior to a diet that is heavy on factory-prepared processed carbs products. +--- 2555722 +>>2555280 +you could just farm trees + +or not eat the food you grow + +consider aquaculture as well +--- 2555732 +i am planting pumpkins this year +--- 2556302 +>>2555732 +why pumpkins anon? +--- 2556423 +>>2543794 +glhf +--- 2556572 +>>2555732 +Lost another one to the pumpkin cult. +--- 2556815 +>>2556572 +what meme? +--- 2556819 +>>2548749 +It takes about a week for tomatoes to germinate, they might just pop tomorrow. +--- 2556820 +>>2551232 +Idk how it differs with pecan, but any hickory wood is too awesome to just throw back in the dirt. Great wood for smoking meat, great hard wood for specifically tool handles but also anything else. I'd use the lame trees for biochar or Hugel. +--- 2556943 +>>2556302 +i have seeds from last year +>>2556572 +is it any better if i got introduced to it by my uncle and aunt from their patch +--- 2557559 +>>2551232 +Build a bee stand for bees +--- 2557567 +>>2552438 +Have you looked into growing sweet potatoes, peanuts, wheat, barley, rice, oats, and rye ? +--- 2557669 +>>2547348 +Wood is great but I would really recommend having propane or some other backup system with a thermostat, even if it's just a big Mr Heater. If you only have wood you can't just leave town for a week or your pipes and canned food and so on will all freeze and break. So if you're building one piece at a time it makes sense to start with propane and add the wood stove later when you can afford it and have the time to install it. +--- 2557817 +>>2543379 (OP) +I am trying to fix this patch of soil that got completely disgusting because we had to keep a bunch of sheep and goats here. + +It is basically just pure shit that has been rained on a lot and it never seems to dry out. + +I tilled it some today in hopes of aerating it to encourage breakdown, but I think I may need to add something to it. Pure Carbon source to help fix the C/N balance, maybe? +--- 2557825 +>>2557817 +woof +--- 2557830 +>>2557825 +Yeah. It's truly wretched. Smells terribly disgusting. Rotting egg, manure, shit when I was tilling it. + +3-4 inches of pure anaerobically fermented goat and sheep shit. +--- 2558033 +>>2557817 +Been there. Add hay or wood chips. You can go to a local lumber mill and buy wood chips by the truckload for pretty cheap. Or you you get hay bales and use some for this and some for weed prevention in a garden since it's about time to start planting +--- 2558435 +>>2557817 +gross +--- 2558481 +>>2558033 +Ty for the advice. I was considering hay so it would break down a bit faster. Thoughts on using sawdust? If my thinking is correct the sludge needs a lot of carbon to balance things out, and saw dust would break down fairly quickly. + +I have 640sq.ft of raised beds and a greenhouse I mainly plant in. I'd like to try and fix this patch as a sort of learning thing, and to plant a huge patch of sunflowers. + +If I do fix this ground it should be pretty fertile, right? + +>>2558435 +I'll post some more pictures of it tommorow. That isn't even the worst of it. Be thankful you can't smell it lol. +--- 2558523 +>>2543794 + +anon just get a remote job and outsource your labor to an AI. + +Running LLaMA locally: + +https://medium.com/@martin-thissen/llama-alpaca-chatgpt-on-your-local-computer-tutorial-17adda704c23 +--- 2558524 +>>2558481 +morbidly curious about the impending photos +--- 2558563 +Second year, still so much struggle. +I've got five cubic meters of weeds piled up that won't compost or aren't suitable for composting. +The cost of arborists is greater than the net value of my fruit. +My lawns are thatched over and I don't have the machinery to aerate it, the $1500 mulcher is still waiting on parts, potatos didn't grow well because I planted them too close to tomatoes. Rookie error. +The berries didn't sell fresh at wholesale rates and the jam didn't sell either. A flood washed away all my raddish and cabbage. + +I'm working seven hours a day for money and just come home exausted, I've been injured twice and am severely demoralized by the accumulation of things which I either can't afford to get done or don't know how to do. +--- 2558717 +>>2558481 +Sawdust might work if that's what you have available, but I suspect chips would work better. Once it's not sludge anymore, it should be SUPER fertile ground +--- 2558723 +>>2558563 +Look at carrots cash flow or farm small farm smart. You can glean a lot of market garden tips +--- 2558745 +>>2558524 +Here you go. Remember this ground has been wet like this for probably 4+ months. +--- 2558747 +>>2558524 +Scrape away a little of the surface muck and you can see the true horrors. + +>>2558717 +Awesome to hear. Figured as much. +--- 2558897 +>>2558747 +>>2558745 +thanks for sharing. terrifying anon +--- 2558967 +>>2557817 +>>2557830 +If pic is all that is destroyed; plough in a 20/80 mix of diatomaceous earth and sand/fine gravel. That shit patch will then be some of your most productive dirt you've ever had. +--- 2558982 +Did I make a mistake getting chickens? I have a house and a couple acres the middle of nowhere and I already take care of a well trained dog and a few cats. +I was partway through building a coop and already had a lot of supplies for the chickens. I just had to keep telling myself that it would work out. +Now I finally have them after two years of thinking about it and lots of research, and I immediately think it was a mistake. +My concern is that I wont be able to take care of them properly and that I will somehow fail at it. I just doubt myself a lot. +I got barred rock chickens because i think that they would be a fairly easy breed to work with. +--- 2559015 +>>2558481 +I always had good luck with Royal Hybrid and Super Snack sunflowers for eating seeds. They get around 6' tall and have a 8-10" head. I've alsogrown other sunflowers like russian mamoth, sky scraper, pikes peak, and american giant. Those are okay for seeds but since they get so tall they need a long season to form full seeds. +--- 2559046 +>>2543807 +sheep are based +--- 2559214 +>>2558982 +Nah man. Just keep at it. Chickens are pretty easy and you can do it. Your biggest hurdle now is to finish the coop before they outgrow the brooder. Once you get that done, just make sure they have food and clean water and you should only need to check on them twice a day (morning to let them into the run and evening to lock up after the go to bed) Barred rocks are a good choice. Did you get pullets or straight run? +--- 2559221 +>>2559214 +I got pullets because I was doubtful about taking care of a rooster. It should be ok without one. +The run that I build should be safe, as I always overthink things and always over prepare. I have a lot of predators around though, so I am still worried. Coyote, raccoon, foxes, mink, hawks, and owls all hang out on my property. +--- 2559245 +>>2559221 +You still get the occasional cockerel in the mix. But they're easy animals and no picky about habitat. It's mostly predators, including humans and dogs that are an issue. And interflock conflict +--- 2559265 +>>2559245 +I will keep an eye on them to see if one is a rooster. I may or may not keep them if thats the case, it will probably depend on their behavior. +--- 2559269 +>>2559265 +You got to cuddle and embarrass + A rooster to keep them friendly and even then sometimes your get a dick. +--- 2559283 +>>2559221 +Pullets is good. In my experience, a straight run is mostly roosters, which leads to a lot of fighting and, of course, not as many eggs. + + +As >>2559245 said, you could still end up with a Roo, but it's not going to be so many as to cause problems. As long as you have them in a run that is secure from coons, you should be fine without a rooster. I would definitely pick one up though if you decide to let them free range at all when they are older. A good rooster will protect his ladies. My first one would charge across the yard any time he heard one of his ladies cry out if something spooked her. He looked mean, but was super easy to be around... I would not have called him friendly per se, but he wasn't the slightest bit aggressive towards humans, which mattered because he could stand up almost as tall as my toddler. I would avoid wyandotte roos because they are they opposite. We had them and they would jump at EVERYONE. Some decent roaster breeds would be White Rock (that was mine), barred rock, Rhode Island Red. + +Rhode island red would be especially good for you if you decide to raise your own chicks later. RIR rooster with Barred rock hens is a very popular sex-link so you know the cockerels from the pullets at birth. +--- 2559412 +>>2546699 +I've been on 4chan for near a decade and realized there is no agriculture and livestock interest board. I was pretty surprised considering all the others. I've just now discovered /homestead/ and /HGM/ being the only places to talk about these topics. What is it then? Homestead has legal precedence in the United States and other British colonies as an official legal term. United States has dozens of Homestead Acts in our government regarding settling the western frontier. Even the modern concept of homesteading term that is so popular has origins in 18th century agriculturist philosophy. By broad definition a homestead is a home and it's adjoining land belonging to a family. It's an ancestral home. Basically a generational estate. I don't see why gardening should be separate from anything. We used all have gardens whether urban or rural living. It's really all about just making the best out of what you got on your land. Making your home produce resources. Working the land for both subsistence and income. For me, I don't know much. I'm brand new and lived in a city most my life. I plan to get several acres and just go for it. I just want to be farmer. I don't give a shit what you call it. Honestly I don't see the difference between the two generals. +--- 2559439 +>>2559412 +I don't see a difference between them, so I follow both. There might have been a distinction at one point or another, but all of the topics interlace with each other, so it's not surprising that they both cover the same topics now. +--- 2559460 +>>2558982 +How many chickens are we talking about here? I'm not hearing a specific problem, maybe you're just anxious about the whole thing. +--- 2559477 +>>2559269 +>>2559283 +Thank you. +I will learn to work with the rooster if that is how it turns out. +I did not really plan on letting them free range just because of the amount of predators. There are a lot of hawks in particular. +I had narrowed it down to a few specific breeds, like the rhode island red, but I ultimately decided on barred rock because I like the feathers. I really hope this works out. +>>2559460 +I got seven of them. +You have to buy a minimum of six, and I didnt want to leave one alone in the thing at the store. I think that I would have preferred five, I dont know why. Maybe I feel like less can go wrong with less chickens. I am quite anxious about it, I worry a lot. Its a problem of mine. +--- 2559540 +>>2552438 +>Got a good harvest from beans, though my family didn't like eating them. +What's wrong with your family? +--- 2559603 +>>2546778 +based tourist fleecer +open a "museum of local rural culture" full of random trash and rusty old tools people dig up in barn and would throw in a bin +--- 2559745 +>>2546778 +Peacocks, or "Juno's bird" are relatively cheap at around ~$10 per bird. They also cost about as much as a chicken to keep, and fit into the tourists' idea of what Greece looks like. +--- 2559897 +>>2558982 +They're cheep livestock. Failure just means they die. Learn from your mistakes. Move on +--- 2559957 +>>2543379 (OP) +bumpi +--- 2560021 +>>2546778 +Onions, Hardneck Garlic, and Shallots +--- 2560039 +>>2560021 +Beautiful photo +--- 2560350 +>>2558747 +>>2558745 +>>2557817 + +Need some soil thickener +--- 2560385 +Chicken update. They seem happy in their new pen and I am feeling much better about them. I used my dogs little pool, that she hates, as a new enclosure. I have also been trying to handle them to get them used to me. They have started jumping a lot. +>>2560021 +Very nice! I just love garlic so much. It was the first thing that I successfully grew on my property. I harvested a lot of hardneck garlic last year and gave some to my mom. +--- 2560504 +>>2560385 +Nice chickens +--- 2560928 +>>2560385 +Cool. Always glad to hear that someone else grows hardneck garlic. What kind did you grow ? +--- 2560978 +>>2560928 +Purple stripe. Very tasty +--- 2561315 +>>2560021 +love shallots +--- 2561487 +How realistic is it to entertain fantasies of homesteading and raising some livestock if you’re a trucker who is gone five days out of the week? Like can I build a giant chicken enclosure and leave enough food and water out for the week and have them be OK? I know they have automated systems for watering gardens and what not but I really want goats and birds +--- 2561571 +>>2561487 +You would probably need to set up a good camera system. If something goes wrong you're screwed. Also there will be daily chores 100% necessary to be there for. If you think you can make money just hire someone. +--- 2561725 +How many desert acres do you think it would take to support 6 or so sheep? +--- 2561733 +>>2561725 +Depends if you're going to let them "graze" on scrub or buy feed for them +--- 2561789 +>>2545726 +Good luck, sounds like a rock solid foundation! +--- 2561791 +>>2553567 +it's what I am doing at least. Be upfront about your plans +--- 2561792 +>>2555732 +which varieties? I'm growing butternut, hokkaido, crown prince f1. +--- 2561799 +not exactly homesteading but ive started to get into planting shit, rn only planted 3 berry stick tree things, very excited to see how itll go +--- 2561977 +>>2561487 +>homesteading +>never home +What's the point? +--- 2562019 +>>2546706 +I love you anon +--- 2562044 +>>2546704 +/out/ has a lot of gatkeepers + +Very dumb +--- 2562049 +Egg haul +--- 2562070 +Yeah whatever there's some dumbo dumbing, big deal. +Here's my wabbit. I want to get him a gf, but I fear they will become too numerous. Also I don't have a place to hold them, and this little dude goes away all night as it is; with enough of these the smell will attract the coyotes and it won't be nice. +Yeah, I could eat them, but like >>2552740 I can't get myself to do it. I couldn't kill an aggresive rooster, let alone a fluffy rabbit. +Man I need to man up. +--- 2562071 +>>2552520 +Perennial shrubs. Maybe a nut tree, depending on your climate, hazel would be good, if your site is big enough. Besides the hazel, find out what shrubs grow in your area, go take a walk. You might be able to grow blackberries, raspberries, gooseberry, and in he shade of those fellas, all the herbs you can find. Lavender, basil, rosemary, thyme. +Separate the organic waste from your kitchen, throw it in bin or just pile it up at the back of the yard, rake the leaves on summer and throw them on top. Give it a turn every month or so, and after 6 months use it as fertilizer for your stuff. Pull out any weeds that seem to affect your plants, such as climbers, or anything that starts to take up space from your plants. +Use some of that compost to try and grow anything that comes your way. +--- 2562320 +>>2552740 +Start by just shooting them in the skull with a .22 or 9mm to start. About as quick, easy, and painless as you can get. +--- 2562326 +>>2562044 +I'm sure lots of people here have cats whys that dumb? +--- 2562430 +>>2543379 (OP) +Bumpoo +--- 2562471 +>>2561977 +I would be gone five days and four nights out of the week. Still home on the weekends +--- 2562513 +Anyone have some game changing revelations they could share? Things you wish you could have known sooner? + +I'll start...I always thought that goat kids should be separated at night and milk the doe in the morning before reuniting them for the day. But this meant mid-night bottle feeding and waking up early to milk the goat. I am NOT a morning person and I move like a slug until about 10am even though I am usually up for hours before that. +I started separating them in the morning, milking after dinner, and then reunite for bed time. I just walk out in my PJs and let the doe our before I start breakfast. She gets all day long to browse the brush around our house and can come check on her babies through the fence as often as she likes. I'm fully alert and awake when I go give them bottles and am able to enjoy the time with them. She gets milked on a more regular schedule because dinner is usually at 6, which puts me outside to milk around 6:30 and her back with her babies by 7pm and I get to go to sleep with only my own children to worry about. +Also, I learned that I can tie her leg back so she cant step in the bucket during milking! It seems like a no brainier, but I was fighting stompers for so long and now, with the schedule change and the leg tie, miking takes about 10minutes instead of 30 minutes with little to show for it! I'm so excited and happy to have this thing finally working out for me. + +What kinds of game-changers have you experienced? +--- 2562546 +>>2561733 +let's say half and half +--- 2563011 +>>2562430 +True? +--- 2563020 +>>2562546 +On good land you can run 6-8 goats a acre. And thats with buying feed. I'd say 1 or 2 per acre in a desert/arid area. Even then you need more land so you can rotate the pasture unless you increase the amount bought feed. But I'm not goat expert. +--- 2563132 +>>2562471 +I'd suggest pursuing a different career. Or start trucking locally so you can be home everyday. +--- 2563220 +hi i'm not reading a single post in this thread. +i have a question for you guys +how many of you itt live off grid vs how many of you guys just watch youtubes about it? +--- 2563240 +>>2563220 +Only the siith deal in absolutes. Kill this man. +--- 2563282 +>>2563220 +I dont live off grid. But I have 6 acres and produce food for myself on it. I fix our own shit and my wife bakes our bread. +We preserve for winter and produce out own compost. Stared an orchard last year. In the evenings I am stiff from work. I sit on my porch and watch deer play in my yard while my wife makes dinner. Sometimes I play pokemon. + +What have you done? +--- 2563485 +>>2562513 +Thanks for sharing anon. + +Game changer: not from personal experience but make connections with local bank officials and the nearest federal agriculture official. Lot of financing and grant opportunities out there. +--- 2563556 +>>2563485 +What US states have the best grants and programs for homesteaders starting out? I don't have the money I need yet. Getting there but it helps to have a goal in mind. Also am learning as many diy skills as I can to fix up any structures I might need to. +--- 2563944 +>>2563220 +Not even close to off-grid, but.. + +Raising my kids with my wife on 50 acres of land that backs up onto a major river. Got a few tractors, an old truck, keep about 30 or 40 chickens and ducks, multiple food plots, I hunt and fish, and we can and preserve a lot of what we grow. I cut our own firewood, soon will make my own lumber too when I have my mill up and running. Looking to get into raising pigs and a cow or two in the near future after I get some hay equipment. +--- 2564018 +>>2563944 +May I ask how old you are? Also congrats, I'll hope to be there in a few years +--- 2564248 +>>2563944 +Can you share what state? And how much you paid per acre? +--- 2564332 +>>2563944 +I'll be 30 this year +>>2564248 +Eastern leafistan. I bought a fixer upper house on 5 acres afor 110k back in 2017 and have been working on it ever since lol. It was right next to my grandfather's woodlot, and I was fortunate enough to inherit the 45 acres of timber and marsh when he passed. Hustling to build up a business and some money in the bank so I can make an offer on the 50 acre lot next door in the future so I can have something to pass on to my son. +--- 2564422 +>>2563282 +>my wife bakes my bread +What grain/cereal do you use? +How do you process it? Do you have a combiner? +--- 2564700 +>>2564332 +> $110k Canadian for house and five acres in 2017 + +You're very lucky anon. Today, that price would be significantly higher. +--- 2564755 +>>2546057 +thinklikeahorse does great videos but he can get into rants too often. just skip his rants and look for positive videos. some of his rants can be informative if you never heard them before but trust me even if you agree they get tiresome to hear over and over. +--- 2564756 +>>2546723 +Thats not evidence +>the goalpost will be moved +timestamp and thread number sticky note have been a staple on this website since 2007 you fucking newfag. +--- 2564771 +>>2564700 +>you are very lucky +Tell me about it. But it was market value for the area at the time. Based on other listings around me I could ask 6 - 700k for the entire acreage, not that I'll ever sell. I don't envy a young guy trying to put down roots today, seems almost impossible. +--- 2564804 +>>2564422 +We buy flour. We aren't autistic +--- 2565064 +>>2564771 +$600-700k Canadian for 5 acres with house in your neck of the woods? That... actually sounds about right for CAN. Certainly would cost at least 2x that in the GTA. +--- 2565089 +>>2565064 +I was counting the house and 5 acres + 45 acre woodlot. + +There a place less than a few km from me, 30 acres with a 30 year old minhome and a couple old old falling down barns and an old farmhouse that has been vacant for 30+ years. Asking $450k +--- 2565090 +Anyone sugaring tonight? +--- 2565147 +>>2565090 +Nah, I don't even really care for syrup that much, and everybody and their mother makes it around here. I'll buy a bottle of theirs and it will last me a year or more. +--- 2565259 +>>2565090 +I have access to a couple of large sugar maples but I didnt have the time this year. +--- 2565368 +>>2549975 +Just split mine yesterday. +Feral colony I caught as a swarm out of a bee tree. + +They have been the most productive bees I've had. When I went to split them they had 2 mediums and a deep I gave them 6 frames of medium brood and the parent colony still had 2-4 frames of brood and was filling the extra super with nectar already. I had to give them another super to keep them busy. +> Tl;Dr feral bees are based +--- 2565379 +>>2565089 +This is total insanity but sounds about right for the CAN / US markets. +--- 2565403 +>>2546707 +Random muttflock of meme breeds with no concrete purpose. + +Backyard chicken keeper detected. Opinion disregard. +--- 2565471 +>have savings +>move to northern state where stuff is cheaper (flyover, one of the Dakotas) +>live in simple apartment, take funds from job to buy land and put shed (or elog house kit or just build with trees on the property) on said land +>build a simple homestead with job money +>quit job and live at homestead full time +>worst case scenario use tech knowledge to do a WFH job +how retarded is this idea? +--- 2565555 +>>2565471 +that's more or less my plan as well. I'm a 'self employed' software dev and my goal is to buy a piece of land and gradually build it up. I like my job so I would like to keep working, at least part time, once I'm on the homestead. The best case would be if one of my projects turns into a profitable company. +--- 2565563 +WATER'S TOO EXPENSIVE TO GROW ANYTHING FUCK +NO IT DOESN'T RAIN HERE FUCK +--- 2565631 +>>2565471 +>>2565555 +Have you researched how much it's going to cost to build your house? Kits are expensive and they usually don't include any plumbing or electrical... They are just fancy looking sheds which is why shed to tiny home conversions are so popular... So unless you want primitive housing with no running water and no electricity, you are going to have to figure out how much that costs and if it is even something you are capable of learning how to do. + +Don't get me wrong... I'm all for building up a homestead. I did it myself. But I wasn't about to do everything myself from square one. There's a reason I'm not a plumber or an electrician. I used an old, but functional single wide. I opted to put in a well instead of getting on public water. Getting that up in my area (well, septic, electricity, and the trailer moving costs) cost about $30k plus what I spent on the used trailer I found on craigslist and the cost of the land itself. It would probably be more today just because gas prices have gone up so much. + +Everything said and done, I would rather buy an old house with some acreage and go from there. Even if it's only 2 acres, it's a good starting point especially if you can get it for less than it costs to put in a new home site. Once you have done enough homesteading that you need more room, you will have improved the property so much that you should be able to sell it for a profit and you will have a better idea of what things actually work for you, rather than going off all the memes that everyone falls for in the beginning. +--- 2565676 +>>2565563 +>DOESN'T RAIN HERE + +make a chembuster +--- 2565740 +>>2561487 +Well, you could do a lot with etc. timers/smart devices, but you will need a person for back up. + +>>2563220 +In my garden I have pear, apples, plums, blackberry, strawberry, mulberry, cherries, raspberry (yellow, red), currant (white, red, black), grapes, Blueberries, sea berry, quince, pumpkins, carrots, rhubarb, potatoes (new this year) and all kinds' kitchen herbs, and some random mushrooms. + +But I live only 15-20 minutes from a 250k city, so not even close to anything off-grid or a homestead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ + +Kinda happy, but I'm saving money and concentrating on my job to get more remote option and buy some raw land. So i test now and dream for later and collect ideas +--- 2565850 +>>2565368 +>feral beekeeper + +Profoundly based +--- 2565896 +>>2565631 +I'm doing research when I have free time to do so. I just think of these questions and try to get the answer right away, so I spend less time factoring in something that won't work. Only thing I'm hesitant on is an old building on a property that's not structurally sound. +For water, I feel like I'm too much of a prissy bitch to go without city water, but I would like to use solar panels if possible. +--- 2566207 +I have a first year Meyer lemon tree and so far three little yellow lemons about the size of Jellybeans have already fallen off. Is this normal? +--- 2566228 +>>2565850 +Why pay for bees when you can get local hardy bees? + +Worst case scenario I get a hot hive and have to requeen. + +I'm slowly starting to get equipment and numbers in preparation for trying to create superior bees using selected genetics (for my area). Beegenics if you will. +--- 2566433 +>>2543379 (OP) +Bumpooo +--- 2566542 +>>2565631 + +(>>2565555) I'm a DIY guy so yes, I've looked into how to install e.g. septic systems, electricity, and stuff like that. +With unlimited money I'd buy an old stone farmhouse with 100+ acres but I'm in my mid twenties and just started working. +The way I imagined it was working ~3-4 months full time on the property and then fuck off and work for the remaining time for the first few years. +In the first year the time would be mainly spent by analyzing the property, clearing a (small) building site, and felling trees / cutting wood for a first cavin. Once that's done I'd draw up a concrete plan for that first cabin (which one day should serve as a place for inlaws/friends to stay) and build that in the second season. +After that shaping the garden, more planning, bigger house, etc. and one day one could move there full time. +I have a gf and convincing her to live with me in a small shed and shit in the woods is impossible. +--- 2566567 +Winter squash is one of my favorite vegetables, but I have had really bad problems with vine borers killing every plant I have. Apparently it's the Hubbard type squash that are most affected by them, and that's the cool varieties I try to plant. I've had great success with spaghetti squash in the past, but I really want a "regular" type pumpkin. I've heard C.Moschata is most resistant to the borers, so I'm trying long island cheese this year. Will they be good, or is there something else I should do to ensure success? +--- 2566591 +>>2543379 (OP) +I bought an abandoned house with a barren plot of land. I want to plant some trees that are quick to grow and will provide good shade in the future. I'm located in zone 6. I've read about the empress tree - apparently it grows extremely quick, however I've also read reports that it won't properly grow where I'm located due to cold winters. +What are the quickest growing shade trees for zone 6? +--- 2566681 +I need a reality check on my pipe dream. There's an uninhabited island in the Aleutians that I've found out about. It looks ideal for making a homestead. The climate is roughly similar to the Faroe Islands, and it'd be perfect for grazing sheep. However, it's "managed" by the Alaska National Heritage Wildlife Refuge. Presumably, I can't just set up shop there. Is it possible to squat there and not get kicked out the second a park janny notices me? +--- 2566685 +>>2566228 +This is cool +--- 2566889 +>>2566591 +Hybrid poplar is a fast grower +--- 2566965 +>>2566681 +This is likely not legal +--- 2567095 +>>2543807 +Please do milk sheep. +--- 2567106 +>>2566681 +How would you plan on getting supplies, fuel or replacement parts? Not exactly a quick trip to the hardware store, and doubt anyone would deliver to an illegal squatter on an uninhabited island. + +Jannies would be the least of your worries +--- 2567195 +>>2566207 +Fuck bros two more fell off today, what do I do? could it possibly be too small of a tree for the lemons? I'm not sure why they're turning yellow and then just falling off on their own +--- 2567209 +>>2566567 +I had terrible luck with vine borers for years, but found that the solution was to tent my vines with muslin when soil temps broke into the 70s (second or 3rd week of June, here). Put out a trap for the adults (yellow bowl of water with a drop of soap to break surface tension), and take your covers off when you go a week without catching one. +--- 2567445 +>>2566567 +Good luck anon +--- 2567817 +Alright fellas I've started to make some real steps towards having a little homestead. +Currently own a decently sized home with a bigass garage with space for projects, sitting on 5 acres of land. Wife and I started a small garden that honestly might not do too hot but we'll see- we planted tomatoes, strawberries, potatoes, beans, and carrots. We also planted a blueberry bush, a pecan tree (looks more like a fucking stick in the dirt honestly) and a peach tree. +About 1.5 acres of the property is fenced out for horses or cattle but local laws say you can only have 2 large animals per 5 acres of land so I'm kind of torn on what I want to do there. We're going to build a chicken coop within the next few weeks and get some chickens for egg laying and maybe a couple of meat birds. + +What else should I try to do with all this land? I'm a first time home owner and honestly outside of working on a small organic farm for a year I don't have a ton of experience. I can give more details as needed because I'm sure this is fairly vague. +--- 2567838 +>>2567195 +Just one lemon left guys. Anything? Any advice? +--- 2567852 +>>2567838 +Are you watering it? +--- 2567864 +>>2567852 +Yes, daily. At sunset so I don't burn it. Gave it a little fertilizer too. +--- 2567893 +>>2567864 +Maybe you're over watering. Do you let the soil dry out? +--- 2567904 +>>2567893 +That's what I thought, I only water it for a couple of minutes every day but I'll get in the habit of checking the soil dryness. It's got one little yellow lemon left, but maybe the tree is just too young since it's only about a foot tall. +--- 2567909 +Caught a swarm of bees in a swarm trap today. Southern Ohio here so if any beekeepers out there that haven't done inspections yet you might be dangerously close to them swarming. +--- 2567988 +>>2566433 +Too soon??? +--- 2568016 +Link to the server? +--- 2568107 +Hey anons, do you have any advice for catching pests or naturally deterring them, mainly rabbits and squirrels? The fuckers keep digging up my peas and peanuts or just eating the young sprigs and its rather annoying. Most of the plants are fine, and I snared around entry points to catch the rabbits but have no luck just yet. I was thinking of making a crossbow to pop them when they are running around late at night/early in the morning but I wanted a natural deterrent that I don't have to go to the store to buy. +--- 2568337 +>>2567909 +Oh wow, that's not good diff --git a/out/2543832.txt b/out/2543832.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8ac69e5e991675ff31d61ed2f5d2140d2b8f8a84 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2543832.txt @@ -0,0 +1,674 @@ +----- +--- 2543832 +Turns out you can buy land in colorado for 1000 bucks an acre. +We could farm in the summer and drive semi trucks in the winters for income + +Land is getting cheaper for those that have cash. + +If we all bought 5 acre lots in this huge subdivision , we could be far enough away from each other that we have our own space while still being able to do barn raisings and such +Should we finally just do this? +--- 2543854 +>>2543832 (OP) +If you could grow anything on that land, it wouldn't be $1000 an acre. There's a reason its fucking worthless. For that price, it isn't going to have any water and also isn't going to berth a fuck for ranching. +--- 2543908 +>>2543854 +Ok so graze sheep instead +have a little creativity +--- 2543924 +>>2543832 (OP) +Where can I buy land for $1,000 an acre? I'll take my tax refund and go buy an acre to live on +--- 2543940 +>>2543832 (OP) +>>2543908 +Stop expecting others to jerk your escapist fantasy dicklette for you. +--- 2543945 +>>2543832 (OP) +>f we all bought 5 acre lots in this huge subdivision , we could be far enough away from each other that we have our own space while still being able to do barn raisings and such +>Should we finally just do this? +And with a little planning and forethought we can be like all those other assholes that buy up all the access to public lands and make them our own private playground. +--- 2543951 +>>2543832 (OP) +Wait we are bringing back this post? I still remember when these threads got spammed on /out/ every week and they all got laughed off the board. I'm kind of down with old-school shitposting. +--- 2544018 +>>2543940 +Someone sounds upset :( +--- 2544033 +>>2544018 +>REEEEE!!11 +lol. +--- 2544034 +go ahead and buy land in colorado's high desert. you can park a trailer there and freeze and maybe have a sheep or grow cabbage in the summer +--- 2544038 +>>2543940 +/out is 98% escapist circlejerking +--- 2544059 +>>2543832 (OP) +look at northwest front or the other bullshit people are looking to do in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana. +Colorado is priced out. +--- 2544099 +>>2544033 +We get it anon, you learned what maladaptive daydreaming is. you don’t have to keep uploading the same picture in every single thread. +--- 2544101 +>>2543940 +Do you know where you are? +--- 2544136 +>>2543832 (OP) +There be tweekers out there +--- 2544147 +>>2543832 (OP) +with that low of a price, there's a reason. They're usually meant for you to camp on to hunt as far as I'm aware. Probably no access to water or power, so you're going to need to drill for water access just to have a well, you're going to need a well house and a pump and everything, but for that you need power. You're probably going to be way too far out to gain access unless you buy a bunch of solar. Okay, so you need the paneling to power not only your house, but your water pump as well. You need the storage bank for the solar, and with how little it rains you're going to need a lot of solar for not just to power the house and the water pump, but now you have to use irrigation for your crops. If I were you, I'd just get something a little less out in BFE because it'd end up being just as much. not to mention if you don't choose to drill a well, and go with water delivery instead, you're going to need a lot for not only whoever's living with you but for your crops as well, livestock, whatever. +--- 2544173 +A buddy of mine did this 3 years ago. Bought an acre for a few thou outside of Moffat in the San Louis Valley. He parked a school bus on it and lived like a refugee, hauling water from 5 miles away, driving 20 miles into Salida to get groceries from Walmart. He finally realized the error of his ways and sold everything at a loss. Colorado is full of these stories. Unless you have the money to build a house (even if it's a shack) and outfit it with a large enough solar system to run a well (which averages $10k to dig) and keep a vehicle maintained (and have the money to buy another vehicle when that one dies) and pay the property tax and buy food and pay for random medical expenses and buy everything else you need as time goes by, this particular lifestyle is a slow drain on your finances and mental health. I have the cash to buy 5 or 10 acres of land in BFE but after adding up everything I'll need over the years I know it'll kill me in the end. Unfortunately it takes some kind of income to live, and scratching it out on hardscrabble won't work. I've lived in some remote parts of Colorado in log cabins, trailers, and assorted tents and teepees, but the only way I could do it is by working my ass off on various construction jobs or at resorts, which meant having a 4wd vehicle in good shape. "Living the dream" is a euphemism for busting your ass in order to live in the mountains. It's a young man's lifestyle and unless you start a business you'll end up broke. +--- 2544191 +>>2543832 (OP) +--- 2544213 +>>2543832 (OP) +Is this the MGTOW commune guy again? +--- 2544215 +shocked at the smount of people ITT who don't live on well and septic +--- 2544224 +>>2544191 +Lol Carbondale the extra bitch ass zone. +--- 2544225 +>>2544215 +I cashed in for comfy towne life. Saul gud, no more bucking and splitting firewood or paying to have my end of the road plowed. +--- 2544353 +>>2543854 +Collab with /diy/ and make aquaponics Setup +From scraps +--- 2544476 +>>2543832 (OP) +>We could farm in the summer and drive semi trucks in the winters for income + + +We could also get starlink and work remotely when not growing dopes in the greenhouse +--- 2544541 +>>2543832 (OP) +1000 bucks an acre! +what am i, a millionaire? + +https://www.recreationland.net/property/file-10-160-5-acres-in-carr-township-50000-cdn/ +--- 2544552 +>>2544173 +i have lots of relatives living in shacks and trailers in the bush +and they invested very little in their land +they are geniuses of cheapness though +equipment operators and truck drivers can make 35 bucks an hour during harvest in my area +they work really hard for a couple months a year and clear 20k +maybe pick up a few jobs off season +pretty sweet life really +the only downside i can see is that youll never get laid +--- 2544563 +>>2544552 +>the only downside i can see is that youll never get laid +Is it really worth all the fuss to get laid? +Especially in Australia ? your women are nearly as bad as english women +I would rather have a garden in the bush like weedy +--- 2544573 +>>2544147 +you've never heard of a hand pump well? their possible out here in the wet east. theres even hand dug wells, as opposed to drilled wells that access the water table. +--- 2544604 +>>2543832 (OP) +https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/County-Road-U-Saguache-CO-81149/2094366892_zpid/ +Just need 31 other anons +--- 2544616 +>>2544604 +Damn I just checked out the area and its all pivot farming , must be decent water +Also look how close it is to the great sand dunes +Plenty of out stuff to do +Endless hiking and mountain biking +--- 2544651 +>>2544147 +Why so obsessed with electricity? Our ancestors lived without it for literal thousands of years and they were able to make it. +--- 2544654 +>>2543832 (OP) +5 acres isn't that much land. +--- 2544657 +>>2544573 +Only good for shallow wells. Works to about 20'. Deeper than that needs a pump at the bottom of the well. +--- 2544703 +"hey guys I'm lonely and can't get pussy, plz come live by me, land is cheap and we can snuggle in a truck in the winter if you come by me, plzzzz" thread +--- 2544716 +>>2544703 +>t. 20 year old who finally got his dick wet, let it get to his head, and now constantly shits up the board with these types of posts +--- 2544722 +>>2544651 +electricity is nice, 12v solar is cheap if just running led lights and charging devices. it's cheaper long term than buying fuel or candles for lighting. optionally electricity for internet or even a 12 v fridge. etc. +--- 2544724 +>>2544657 +there's the $2200 one or just get a 12vdc solar system and we'll pump for potentially less money +old school windmill pump and water tower? +--- 2544785 +Solar is pretty cheap these days +Used panels go for like five cents a watt +Everyone is upgrading batteries so used ones are cheap as well +A well pump does not use that much electricity anyway and can be run only in the daytime +Southern Colorado is probably the best place for solar in the united states with 3oo days of sunshine but it does not get very hot +Passive solar homes only need heat on cloudy days and that can be done with a wood stove +In the winter there is a trucking company that will hire us for 1500 dollars a week each, but we need CDLs and will only be home one day a week during that time +--- 2544902 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6IOORktZ4&ab_channel=ColoradoCamperman [Embed] +--- 2544910 +Id be done for it, though one of you homos would have to marry me so that i can get into the US. +--- 2544945 +>>2543832 (OP) +At 5 acres apart you’d still regular see each other. That’s not as much as you think it is. +--- 2544948 +>>2544716 +>all of you telling me to stop shitting on the dining room table are ruining this house! +--- 2544959 +>>2544033 +"Maladaptive daydreaming (MD) defines excessive use of fantasy which replaces human interaction and/or interferes with academic, interpersonal, or vocational functioning. This study tests psychometric properties of the Polish version of the Maladaptive Daydreaming " +so if it's interpersonal, and productive toward the self, as such is my relationship with God and my dreams respectively, it isn't maladaptive, but, I think you're just sort of a nihilist about starting over cause you know the owner of the world is satan, BUT, remember the Love between you and God, and then the love between others, that is why you are in this world. That's it. The rest is satan, and iniquity. (not saying I'm good at practicing this either). Plus, it does say, take care of the land, so, whatever land or community you're in, take care of it. +--- 2544962 +>>2544563 +You people do not understand that like. . . Egypt and Central Africa are more livable than inland Australia. It is a desert like no other, and it is massive. It is easily possible to be 100 miles from the nearest litre of water. There is no "gardening" +--- 2544965 +>>2543832 (OP) +Just join one that’s already established. +http://www.eastwind.org/ +Communal living is tight +--- 2544968 +>>2544959 +stop molesting children. +--- 2545019 +>>2544962 +Ok smart guy, then why are the females so ugly while the men are above average attractiveness ? +Who can thrive in a society like that? +How do you maintain the drive to excel when there are no attractive women to impress? +--- 2545021 +>>2543832 (OP) +Didn't a gaggle of troons try this and they managed to make it their own alpacauschwitz? +--- 2545038 +>>2545021 +You mean in Westcliffe ? +--- 2545077 +>>2545021 +>>2545038 +Just got through reading about the tenacious unicorn ranch +That is some funny fucking shit right there, the townsfolk are at their wits end! +I bet they would much rather have a MGTOW commune move in +--- 2545093 +>>2543854 +There are plots of land in northern Ontario and parts of Cape Breton Island for 600-700/acre. +--- 2545097 +>>2545093 +But dont you guys have that giant armour plate or whatever that fucks up the soil? +--- 2545186 +>>2544724 +You still need the well drilled, casing installed, etc. You arent hand drilling 100' of bedrock. Shallow wells access the water on top of bedrock, and really only work in certain soils, mainly sand. + +Windmills are still shallow wells. + +Point is you cant assume its going to work. I have the correct soil and terrain on my land but the sandpoint hits bedrock before water. Make sure you have a backup plan like a spring, a river, or enough rain. +--- 2545239 +>>2543854 +Can this issue not be redemied by building raised gardens? That's what I'd do. +--- 2545240 +>>2545239 +>redemied +Fuck, I am retarded. Remedied. +--- 2545313 +>>2545239 +anon is wrong that nothing grows there +the zillow property that anon posted was 160 with water and next to tons of pivot fields +Thousand dollars an acre and looks like alfalfa everywhere +That feeds a lot of lambs +--- 2545446 +>>2544191 +>escape society +>Anchorage +--- 2545479 +>>2544191 +At least make your lines parallel to the latitude lines next time +--- 2545511 +>>2545479 +no +--- 2545586 +>>2545446 +100 miles in any direction from anchorage and you are in the middle of nowhere +--- 2545590 +>>2545186 +if people are going to live close they could split the cost of drilling a well, a small solar system with pump and a water tower +being next to water would be best especially if it can be fished, water but a turbine for power and a rampump to get the water up into storage +a spring would be good to if it's potable +--- 2545591 +>>2545590 +>they could split the cost of drilling a well, a small solar system with pump and a water tower +and a starlink +--- 2545695 +>>2545097 +the... Canadian Shield? +Yeah. But not on Cape Breton, and not in much of what counts as "Northern" Ontario. Northern Ontario starts at like Timmins. +--- 2545698 +>>2543832 (OP) +I can't imagine how fucking annoying it would be to live next to a bunch of poor, useless, autistic, neets. +--- 2545924 +>>2545698 +Why are you on this board at all if you have such a poor opinion of the people here? +--- 2545925 +>>2545924 +Might be trying to bring back the old quality of this board instead of this new dogshit you guys have going on. +--- 2546059 +>>2545925 +You know these commune threads have been here since day dot right? +In fact, this thread is a throwback to what /out/ used to be +--- 2546141 +The Better Bachelor guy on yourtube is setting up a place like this in montana +Its just going to be camping at first with a game room and a shower/sauna/jacuzzi setup but he plans on building cabins and such + +I think the first wave up there this summer will be vanlife guys +I plan on checking it out on my summer road trip. Will report back +--- 2546264 +>>2545313 +Pivot fields are often very deep wells and have a tendency to lower the water table requiring home owners to drill even deeper. Check the water table and well depths in the area you are buying. +--- 2546268 +>>2545590 +Thats true, as long as you trust the guy who has it on his land not to cut you off. People get weird' so best to plan for the worst and hope for the best. + +Solar isnt that expensive, if you watch your power usage. I get by on about 20 amp hours a week. 400 watts of solar is plenty for me in WI. I have a little generator I can run for an hour to charge my system if it rains for a week. +--- 2546271 +>>2546264 +Southern colorado has a weird system where they constantly recharge the area with irrigation canals so that the pivots wells are constantly getting fresh water +Someone tried to explain it to me but it didnt seem right +--- 2546415 +>>2546281 +>The San Louis Valley has no such system. It relies on snowpack +All watersheds rely on snowpack and runoff +But the san luis valley has irrigation from the rio grande as well +--- 2546448 +>>2543940 +THIS + +Why does every faggot on /out/ need to either be talked into going through with their dreams, or need a group to all hold hands together... Dick Proenneke and Forest Anon never had to post threads asking people to link up and help them. They just fucking went off and did their own shit without giving a fuck. +--- 2546451 +>>2546448 +We want to have a community , if we dont talk about in places like this , we cant get it going +If this process annoys you , then hide the thread +--- 2546455 +>>2546451 +Then why does OP have a fucking picture of Dick Proenneke if you guys are all gay commune hippies? +--- 2546485 +>>2546455 +Living in a place with like minded individuals doesn’t automatically equate to a hippy commune, anon. In fact, I’d guess you’ve never been anywhere rural considering community is all they have out there. +--- 2546487 +>>2546455 +I think Dick would have endorsed our efforts +--- 2546554 +>>2546448 +>>2546455 +Well Dick Prenneke and Forest Anon are symbols like Ted and others. They represent alternative /out/ lifestyles. Regardless of what they actually believe they are mascots for other people like homesteaders, peppers, survivalists, neoluddites, tramps, nomads etc. So it's always been appropriate to use their image for threads, even if the threads aren't strictly about mountain man individualists +--- 2546670 +>>2546554 +Yeah true. Alright fair enough then +--- 2546825 +>>2546554 +>Forest Anon +I must have missed this one +--- 2546827 +>>2546825 +hes that guy with the beard the feds went after. lives in a forest shack feeding bears and taming mice +--- 2546828 +>>2545019 +Your mind is infected with memes. +--- 2546829 +>>2545695 +>Northern Ontario starts at +Sudbury. +--- 2546831 +>>2546059 +Back in the day we had a single commune thread. Now we get to have 15-20 commune threads a week. +--- 2546835 +>>2543832 (OP) +>Turns out you can buy land in colorado for 1000 bucks an acre. + +If you're serious about the idea, go camp there for free for a week or two and see if you like it. There are also a lot of druggies and rapists out there hiding from the law. + +A better plan might be to save up for a fown payment on a cheap fixer cabin that already has well and septic, then go HAM with all of your off grid stuff. Cheaper in the long run that developing frozen desert land from scratch +--- 2546919 +>>2546831 +>Now we get to have 15-20 commune threads a week. +Did you mean to type one or two a year? +--- 2547123 +>>2546825 +https://youtube.com/@ForestAnon +--- 2547133 +>>2546919 +>t-t-those threads don't count!!11 +sorry son, all commune threads are equally faggy. +--- 2547155 +>>2547133 +Do you see any other commune threads up now? +--- 2547649 +>>2547123 +Maybe he will lead us to the promise land +--- 2547653 +>>2545093 +Lived in cape breton for a bit, quite beautiful, ALOT of natives and reservations though and a huge chunk of the people are ugly as fuck +--- 2547656 +>>2547653 +So that'll make me a solid 6/10 by comparison +--- 2547878 +As long as it's a tontine arrangement. +--- 2547984 +>>2547878 +Its probably going to be one guy buying all the land then illegal structures being built by individual anons +--- 2548232 +>>2545093 +Can you grow crops on it? +--- 2548349 +>>2548232 +No because of the giant armor plate +--- 2548593 +>>2546828 +They are ugly anon +--- 2548794 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg6Q0hYxVB8&ab_channel=CompassLandUSA [Embed] +--- 2550374 +What abut wyoming + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK918kdwboo&ab_channel=LANDiO [Embed] +--- 2550514 +>>2543832 (OP) +>If we all bought +Get a load of this commie +--- 2550516 +>>2546825 +>not knowing about the mice enjoyer +Look at him and laugh! +--- 2550653 +>>2545093 +why treat it by price per acre over its property tax rate? +--- 2550770 +>>2550653 +That sentence makes not fucking sense whatsoever +--- 2551187 +>>2548794 +seems pretty dry +--- 2551822 +>>2550514 +You dont have to be a commie to go in on land with a group of people who have similar goals +--- 2551983 +>>2550374 +Casper is windy and cold in the winter but great hunting and fishing in the summer +Lots of oilfield jobs to be had if you have a strong back or a CDL +--- 2552192 +>>2547123 +Is that a homeless? +--- 2552589 +Damn, if we had moved faster we could have been preparing for spring plantings by now... +--- 2552611 +What about kansas? +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SJQr7pUow8&ab_channel=LANDIO [Embed] +--- 2553008 +>>2552589 +I would have thought that in these trying times people would be more interested than ever in leaving the city for life on a MGTOW commune +--- 2553137 +40 acres for 80k + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6AOs_6MDr0&ab_channel=LANDIO [Embed] + +Good hunting nearby +--- 2553164 +>>2553008 +if they had the work ethic and minimal social skills necessary to function in commune life, they could get a real job and a romantic relationship. +--- 2553239 +>>2553164 +>they could get a real job and a romantic relationship. +That is just false +a man under 5 foot 8 is not getting any romantic relationship unless he is a serous chad +when will you acknowledge that a third of american males have not had sex in a year + +Do you think the newspapers are making this shit up? +--- 2553253 +>>2553239 +>a man under 5 foot 8 is not getting any romantic relationship unless +This is of course not true. + +>third of american males have not had sex in a year +[citation needed] +--- 2553297 +>>2553253 +>[citation needed] +just trust my defective brain bro! +--- 2553307 +>>2553239 +try trooning out, it won't fix your low intellect or shitty personality, but you are already unattractive and creepy so nothing to lose there, and once they get you to kill your balls the loss of libido will do you good. I'd also say the sterilization would be a social good but that was never really a risk. +--- 2553379 +>>2553253 +https://news.iu.edu/live/news/26924-nearly-1-in-3-young-men-in-the-us-report-having-no#:~:text=BLOOMINGTON%2C%20Ind.,BLOOMINGTON%2C%20Ind. +--- 2553406 +>>2553239 +kek, no wonder manlets are the most sour people I see in the outdoors, even more than fatsos + +>>2553307 +Based and Chadpilled advice +--- 2553482 +>>2553406 +You might think its only a problem for short men, but they are not going to be docile forever in this situation +--- 2553486 +>>2553482 +Untrue.you can keep people down for generations +--- 2553487 +>>2553486 +Not without sex you cant +You can keep them poor +You can even starve them till they are near death +Take away sex and even any hope of sex and men become violent +This is how humans were domesticated in the first place +--- 2553552 +>>2553487 +incells are as good at violence as they are earning money and attracting women. +--- 2553555 +>>2553552 +History says otherwise +--- 2553556 +>>2543832 (OP) +>>2543924 +I actually bought a few acres. Not all of Colorado is mountains and trees. All that land you are talking about is southeast. Near Trinidad and the like. Extremely arid, basically high desert which is beautiful but not good for much practically. I used my 2 acres to store old trucks. +--- 2553573 +>>2553555 +>famous person secretly shared my defectiveness!!11 +wrong. +incells really are just like troons. +--- 2553782 +>>2553556 +How much did you pay for it? +How long have you had it ? +--- 2554004 +what about new mexico ? + +https://discountlots.com/why-is-land-cheap-in-new-mexico/#:~:text=Cheaper%20Property%20Taxes&text=Plus%2C%20the%20state%20limits%20property,than%20in%20any%20surrounding%20state. +--- 2554294 +>>2544033 +I checked with my doc and thats not even a real thing +--- 2554412 +How much land would it take for one anon to live on in the high desert and be self sufficient ? +--- 2554461 +Do we trust this guy? +He has land that is owner financed + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nM_TersgA8&ab_channel=Landmodo [Embed] +--- 2554644 +>>2554294 +No, he didn't, take your meds. +--- 2554864 +Ok this was just uploaded , best one yet +Less than a thousand an acre and not from from a major city + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDrJFTfXAI4&ab_channel=LANDIO [Embed] +--- 2555130 +>>2554644 +he says the va dont reconize it +--- 2555245 +>>2553573 +wat? +--- 2555304 +>>2555130 +>it's not a billable code so it doesn't exist! +wow. +thats up there with: +>I'm not crazy! I've had 5 different 48-hour psych eval holds and they let me go each time! +--- 2555514 +>>2555304 +stop trying to gaslight everyone +--- 2555688 +What if we did like an old time community and lived like the Amish ? +It could be a secular version of shakerism . All of the wholesomeness without the religion +--- 2555767 +>>2555514 +I miss when "gaslight" meant trying to drive people crazy rather than it's currant meaning of "failing to enable my mental illness" +--- 2556031 +>>2555767 +I miss when no one used that term at all +--- 2556981 +>>2555688 +Would starting a cult in order to manage a tax free land trust be morally dubious? +Thinking about ripping off Mormonism and Ubisoft for a supreme blend. +--- 2557172 +>>2556981 +all we can do is try it +--- 2557528 +>>2556981 +What sorts of churches are allowed to ban women? +--- 2557770 +>>2555767 +I miss when you were in English class, learning how to correctly use apostrophes. +--- 2557927 +>>2557770 +I miss when we beat autistics and cloistered them from public life. +--- 2557940 +>>2557927 +I miss your moms fappity beef curtains of her vagootis +--- 2558636 +>>2557927 +You must be pretty old then +--- 2558645 +>>2556981 +Let the water wash away your sins, anon. +--- 2558808 +>>2556981 +men are not as likely to fall for religion stuff +--- 2559202 +>>2556981 +Lets do it anon +I am in +--- 2559247 +>>2543908 +You don't know jack shit about sheep +--- 2559251 +>>2559247 +You have never been to mexico +goats and sheep graze on desert with very little plant life +--- 2559792 +>>2559251 +Yeah I know that, but that takes a lot of land. More than you can afford and certainly more than a couple of acres +--- 2559802 +>>2559251 +>>2559792 +I just looked it up and a acre of land is two fifths of a hectare. that is a miniscule amount of grass in a fertile area and in a semi-desert it's nothing. +You're delusional. get a job or change jobs, but don't come on 4channel to larp we're trying to help you here +--- 2559824 +I've done the math on this and am actively planning to live the /out/ escapist LARP. 600,000 USD is the number. You're going to pay way more 1000 an acre for land that you can homestead with. Way more. + +40 acres of land thats a combo of trees, water, flatland for buildings above floodzones, and grazing pasture. Acquired for 320,000 in 2020. It has a cabin, well, outhouse and I've added makeshift solar. Eventually I'll need to build roads in, build a barn, and build some kind of 4 season structure with real bathrooms, septic, a real solar battery setup or run grid power to it. That shit adds up very quickly. + +Good news, land and home prices are going to drop like a rock in the coming months so if you've been saving your sheckles you'll have an opportunity coming up. +--- 2559992 +>>2559802 +How said they were only getting one acre? +When land is a thousand bucks an acre you can get a few hundred acres +--- 2561446 +>>2559992 +who not how +--- 2562182 +>>2544616 +>must be decent water +it's never the water that's a problem it's the water rights. +--- 2562293 +>>2562182 +Well they have enough to run pivot farming so that means drilling a well for home use will be easy. This is not the case in much of the southwest. +If you have a home well on your property but no irrigation rights , you cant run a pivot , but you can run greenhouses with drip. +--- 2563333 +>>2562182 +Many of these places dont even have water to steal +--- 2563334 +>>2544059 +>Colorado priced out +>But not Oregon, Washington, Idaho or Montana +Looooool +--- 2563338 +>>2563334 +Everyone wants to go to colorado because its sunny +Those other states are gray and rainy +--- 2563344 +>>2543832 (OP) +when you buy land and want to keep it /out/ related its stupid to spread EVERYONE out like some boomer shit. you want everyone as dense as possible to save the nature part of the land.. and not have stupid wide tracks from dozers and heavy equipment moving about so people can live their homesteading fetish. + +I've worked on communes and with them. the best system is to build an apartment complex style building. However no matter what it's the most expensive part... + +a 24 unit building [thats 24 different people] would cost [back in 2017 mind you gonna be way more now] 3.7Million USD.. thats 154,167 PER person. for an 800 sq.ft apartment. This doesn't include parking pavement. or what would be required by some states yearly fire inspections and shit like that. so now you need some sort of Tax.. or HOA fee... basically you cannot escape the everyday meme. + +Best thing would be to pool your money with a few friends, those you can trust, buy an old hotel/motel/apartment/duplex/warehouse/industrial building. turn it into small livable spaces. and then all you have to do is worry about what state park/BLM land you're closest too. +--- 2563403 +>>2563344 +You sound like one of those libs thats convinced the world is overpopulated +--- 2563404 +>>2563403 +Your reply sounds like you need to hop off your dad's dick. And go touch grass. +--- 2563599 +>>2563404 +that makes no sense +--- 2564311 +how about this one + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbApGaY4VAw&ab_channel=LANDIO [Embed] + +We could tunnel into the rocks and also have lots of greenhouses +--- 2564471 +>>2546415 +why did that guys post get deleted? +I dont understand the moderation on this board at all +--- 2565042 +count me in and save me from my lifetime of AURORA COLORADO +I have no money to offer, but I am a poet!! +--- 2565043 +>>2563599 +it's projection, the gross kind +--- 2565044 +>>2563344 +>Buy rural land to live in a fucking apartment +>I've worked on communes +I'd love to give your whole head a nice glossy red finish +--- 2565073 +>>2565042 +>but I am a poet!! +Anon you should get a CDL and get a job with Navajo +Lots of poets over there +--- 2565511 +>>2565042 + Can you write a poem about that women are whoowers? +--- 2565528 +>>2564471 +Because he said "Fuck the Denver Water Board for sucking a tremendous amount of water from the upper Colorado River and transporting it through the Continental Divide via miles of tunnels to the Front Range." He also mentioned the soaring crime rate and the media, banks, and government officials behind Denver's reputation as corrupt shithole. +--- 2566652 +>>2565528 +I dont think that was it +--- 2566924 +>>2566652 +What do you think it was? +--- 2567403 +>>2566924 +I dont know +--- 2567541 +>>2565511 +There once was a man from Nantucket +He married a woman and she took all his money and left him because he once had a hard day +--- 2567543 +Anybody got access to the full collection of Proeneke videos? It was posted here awhile back, hoping some anon kept it somehow. +--- 2567719 +>>2544604 +This isn't bad at all. Good find. +--- 2568375 +>>2567719 +lets pitch in and buy it diff --git a/out/2544967.txt b/out/2544967.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e350eb0bc49e0a38d222de8cb81af2269e5a746c --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2544967.txt @@ -0,0 +1,565 @@ +----- +--- 2544967 +Went on my first hike with a group on strangers I met on facebook. I hated it. Is this supposed to be more fun alone? +--- 2544970 +>>2544967 (OP) +>I hated it +why did you hate it? +--- 2544971 +It's because they were strangers. Hiking with close friends is fun but for me hiking alone is the best experience. Everyone is different. +--- 2544977 +I used to hike alone fairly regularly. it was fun because i could go where io wanted to go, didn't have to worry about tother peoples schedules, or hiking pace, or anything. +hiking alone, at a brisk pace, i would pretend I was Strider, the wild and dangerous ranger from the north, on a special mission for the Elven Lords. +or i would pretend I was an agile wood elf, lightly travelling along making almost no noise, disturbing no woodland life and moving without strain or effort because of my wood natural elf abilities +--- 2544978 +>>2544970 +Because they kept stopping for pictures and the girls would do cringy faces and poses every couple minutes. Also some people brought their dogs, and they wouldn't stop talking, it was horrible. +--- 2544981 +>>2544978 +ok. yeah i wouldn't like that at all either. i would rather be hiking alone at that point. +--- 2544982 +I went for a five hour hike alone last week and saw one other person the entire time I was walking. it was bliss. +--- 2544989 +>>2544967 (OP) +I ran a backpacking MeetUp group with over 120 members for a few years. Hiking with strangers is a completely different experience. If you’re not a “people person” then don’t do it. You have to really enjoy the company of others for it to be worth your while, as there are a lot of downsides. +--- 2544995 +>>2544967 (OP) +>sneakers and yoga pants +>inna snow +I would hate it too. +--- 2545001 +IMAGINE needing the encouragement of a facebook group to go on a single(1) hike! Not reading this ngmi thread, just came here to laff at you. +--- 2545002 +>>2545001 +that's literally not what the OP said, you dingelberry +--- 2545003 +>>2544989 +This is why I don't plan on ever doing a guided mountaineering expedition. Having to be around strangers for an extended length of time sounds like hell to me when I am used to doing everything on my own terms. If this means that I'll never get to climb technical or higher altitude mountains, so be it. +--- 2545020 +>>2544978 + +If the talking gets to you (It gets to me as well) go by yourself. +Really, you're not going to change some people. +--- 2545060 +>>2545003 +i will go with you and i promise i'll march to the summit in complete silence +--- 2545070 +>>2544989 +Sounds like it would be good to practice socializing. +--- 2545073 +This girl I like has been asking me to take her out on a hike and I really want to fuck her but don't know if her cooter will get too stinky after an hour of hiking. She's pretty easy to impress considering I took her out to a nearby river where I usually fish and she couldn't stop smiling and taking pictures like she's never seen a river before. I assume if I show her some elevation her pussy will get really wet and she'll be horny for some dick. +--- 2545083 +>>2545003 +You don't need guides to climb difficult things. You just start with easier things and slowly work your way up as opposed to just paying someone to drag you up something hard with little experience. +--- 2545103 +>>2545073 +No, you absolutely only can touch cooters less than 4 minutes 32 seconds after they've been washed, after that cooters become too stinky. If hiking, it will be more like 3 minutes 28 seconds. If she hasn't washed the cooter within that time period it will be too stinky. Even more so she's very easily impressable, which means the cooter will get wet and become stinky even sooner. So you'd have around 2 minutes 14 seconds to fuck the cooter before it's too stinky for you to fuck. +--- 2545114 +>>2545070 +It absolutely could be, sure. The hikes we organized were loosely categorized by difficulty. On the easier hikes you’d have people of all age groups (though generally over 35) and walks of life. The longer or more difficult stuff was basically the same core group of maybe a dozen people, all somewhat younger. + +On a group hike people end up hiking in smaller groups or pairs, or alone, and just meeting up when everyone stops for a break. You can try to stay together, but it doesn’t really work out. I mean you’re not like miles apart, but you’re certainly not one mass of people either. You’ll definitely be socializing at camp, even if you’re not set up near each other (logistics don’t always work out for everyone to be right next to each other). + +But yeah, if you’re a socially awkward weirdo (you’re on 4Chan, so probably) I say go for it. If nothing else you can troll the group with your weirdness. +--- 2545166 +>>2544967 (OP) +Is the last girl wearing adidas sneakers and yoga pants? What the fuck? +--- 2545167 +>>2545003 +>i need partners to do technical climbing +nah mate just belay yourself, just fifi onto each pice as you go up so you can use both hands to pay out more rope and redo your backup knot. +picrel me 35m up solo +--- 2545312 +>>2545002 +Then why did he go in a group? Why did OP need to be in a group? +--- 2545361 +>>2545167 +>pic +doesnt that require permanent anchors? +--- 2545363 +>>2545166 +It's so that you can stare at her ass the whole way. +--- 2545396 +>>2545166 +To a this board getting worse? + +>yoga pants +Shorts and leggings are a great combination, especially when protection from abrasion isn’t needed (like on an established hiking trail). They keep you warm and dry very quickly. It’s basic athletic wear. +>adidas?! No! Only brands that I recognize can be used outdoors! +Pic +--- 2545462 +>>2545361 +no +--- 2545529 +>>2545396 +You wouldn't know. +--- 2545566 +>>2545529 +Wouldn’t know what? That Adidas makes hiking shoes or that leggings are commonly used athletic wear? Because whoever commented on those things obviously didn’t know. +--- 2545602 +Feels good to have a capable bro along when you show up to the LZ in the dark and head into a deserted wilderness. +We didn't see a single person on this run. +--- 2545642 +>>2545602 +>bro +>LZ +>this run +LARPer detected. +--- 2545646 +>>2544977 + +is there more to this story? +--- 2545650 +>>2545642 +>not training with your personal fireteam +NGMI! +--- 2545653 +>>2544978 +Honestly, people who don’t like people shouldn’t go outside, you should knit or play WOW. People are cool, they make things better, sounds like you missed out on making friends. You should do it again but pull the stick out of your ass first, if you need it back in there you can find a new one on your hike.mvxht2 +--- 2545711 +>>2545653 +>people who don't like people shouldn't go into the woods where very few people are +okay +--- 2545727 +im in a hiking facebook group with a bunch of old ladies and its insanely based. just recently we snowshoed to an old fire lookout on a 4k elevation gain trail. was a blast. +--- 2545747 +>>2545727 +did you blast inside the old ladies? +--- 2545756 +>>2545747 +not yet, in due time +--- 2546132 +>>2545602 +You mean RV? As in rendezvous? Unless you really did chopper in... in which case, tell us more? +--- 2546267 +>>2544967 (OP) +yes, it is infinitely more fun alone +--- 2546279 +>>2546267 +It's more fun with someone you enjoy being around and talking to. Alone is okay as well, but it can get lonely. I can't imagine why anyone would want to hike with a group of strangers though. Seems like it could go wrong in so many different ways. +--- 2547471 +>>2545073 +You normally don't have to worry about smell unless you're doing it doggy style, then everything starts stinking if they haven't washed. My buddy used to use a finger swipe test and sniff his finger to see if it was worth going after. If it were me just tell her to hold on to a tree and hit it from behind, eating pussy onatrail is a pretty cuck move, fine if you're in the bed but not when you're manning up and leading the way. +--- 2547472 +>>2547471 +>>2545073 +You know I just remembered I got 2 blowjob's while hiking, one from an ex and one from my wife. Didn't cum cause they got scared after 2 minutes but lead to some good times afterwards +--- 2547533 +>>2544967 (OP) +>I hated it. Is this supposed to be more fun alone? +Do it with close friends or a dog and a gun +--- 2548248 +>>2544967 (OP) +People literally go on these meetup and Facebook hikes to take pictures and socialize autismo. How do you think girls get their instagram and tinder pictures? +--- 2548249 +>>2545073 +Send her my way and I'll fuck her stinky cooter without any care in the world. +--- 2548757 +why are you so obsessed by sex? +that's why I hike alone, for you hiking is just a medium to obtain sex +--- 2548771 +>>2544977 +Essentially this. It really is true freedom when you can set your own pace, pick your own paths, and relax as much as youd like.xdsasr +--- 2548791 +>>2545396 +>pic +Are these any good? +--- 2548805 +>>2544967 (OP) +Okay, so you have like no fucking game so let me lay it out for you. +>you want to hike, but you have no one to hike with +>do what you did, join randoms via FB +>its horrible, because randoms. +Okay, but now +>make a friend(s) with people like you who dont like the talking (weird) or the photos (justified) +>you now hike with them +--- 2548813 +>>2544995 +Oh my gawd these tiktok oants make my butt looks sooooooo big. I hope a rich, unattached 6’8 chap is on our walk uwu + +Literally the antithesis of why I /out/ +--- 2548816 +>>2545566 +Tbh you wouldn't know any of what you're trying to post about. +--- 2548823 +>>2544977 +gigabased +--- 2548846 +>>2545653 +10/10 retard bait post. Even type the captcha into the post. +--- 2548848 +>>2544977 +Schizo +--- 2548850 +>>2545653 +>people who don't like people should play a massive multiplayer online game +--- 2548884 +>>2548848 +>he doesn't have any natural woodland Elf abilities +cope and seethe, goblin mutt +--- 2548911 +>>2544967 (OP) +>Intimidated by the white chad wearing shorts +--- 2548917 +>>2548791 +Don’t know. I’m just pointing out that the other guy is a fucking retard because those aren’t sneakers and “yoga pants” are great in cold weather. +--- 2548942 +>>2545166 +Yes. And that's adequate equipment for a day hike is good weather. +--- 2548967 +>>2544967 (OP) +I don't care that much to hike alone. I'd rather hike with my wife so we can chat and point stuff out to each other and discuss them +--- 2549420 +What's the biggest group you've done camping/backpacking in? I like camping alone but when there are several people and lots of booze it's a blast. Would it be fun to go camping in a group of 20 friends way into the woods or is that too much? +--- 2549469 +>>2549420 +>when you and the homies find some remote area outside of the Rubicon to four wheel to, and brings tons of beer, meat, and coffee and spend the next few days perpetually inebriated and exploring the land +--- 2549474 +>>2548967 +The point of us incels going hiking with Facebook groups is to possibly make a wife +--- 2549476 +>>2549420 +In first year University, actually the second week there, we had a camping trip for Terrestrial Ecology (plus some other people), it was like 30-40 people that barely knew each other at some Cabin in the mountains owned by the University. Profs stayed inside while everyone tented in the woods. + +It was a good time, lots of drinking and hiking. +--- 2549501 +>>2549476 +and fucking +--- 2549642 +>>2549474 +Now I feel bad for the women involved +--- 2549689 +>>2544989 +If they’re a “person person” they should fuck off back to the pub instead of polluting peaceful nature. I hate tourists, noisy ones even more so. +I go alone I see deer and hawks all day. If there’s people that’s the only thing there. They’re a plague. +--- 2549694 +>>2549689 +Agreed +--- 2550329 +>>2544989 +I'll look at Meetup hike listings occasionally, there's a high number of them within an hours drive. Most of the people are pretty old around here, in their 50s. Won't see many women under 30... One time I signed up early for a hike as a lark, and a Korean in her 20s signed up after me. She was too much of a vax'd normie for my taste, but it was flattering to know that you convinced someone to come for a hike. She let me give her a ride back to the train station and a hug... +Let 'em come to you, that's the right way. +--- 2550348 +>>2545073 +I fucked my ex after a hike (she got extra sweaty) her cooch was full of cottage cheese and I ate it all. :( +--- 2551551 +So I went on my second hike to today and it was no different. + +>the women doing cringy shit throughout the hike +>constantly stopping to rest and take stupid pictures +>old creepy men simping hard +>literal cringefest the whole hike + +Safe to say I'm never doing this again. I'm on my own from this point forward. +--- 2551552 +>>2551551 +Did you nut in any of them? +--- 2551555 +>>2551551 +why would any self respecting man subject themselves to this? +--- 2551560 +>>2551551 +Yikes. + +I would just walk away if I had people in my group doing this. +--- 2551561 +>>2551551 +Is that a fucking tripod on the left? Are these people doing a photoshoot in the middle of a hike? Jesus. +--- 2551568 +>>2551560 +this x 6 million +holy shit +--- 2551659 +>>2548813 +>get 100 ft into walk with boner +>bend the bitch over +>the pants come off +>most disappointing ass is underneath +--- 2552135 +>>2545003 +>>2545167 +What about alpine ascents? I read everywhere I shouldn't cross a glacier without at least 2 other people roped up lest I fall in her deep deep crevasse. +--- 2552138 +In Spain they charge money on meetup plans. The one organizing it say you have to pay like 10€ for the "cost" of organizing it and acting as a guide. Also the younger person that goes to those plans is probably 40. +--- 2552139 +>>2550348 +1. you dont have an ex-wife +2. you're almost definitely a virgin +3. if my some miracle im wrong and you were married, you're clearly a mongoloid because pussies dont get full of cottage cheese after a bit of hiking, they get ful of cheese because their owners are disgusting cunts who obviously dont wash. +--- 2552152 +>>2545653 +I am replying to bait +--- 2552153 +>>2544967 (OP) +if you go for a huke with facebook strangers it's ... to socialized. +if not, go alone; you'll go further. +--- 2552157 +>>2551551 +>anon thought this is was a hiking meeting +yeah +--- 2552213 +>>2552153 +What in the ESL +--- 2552332 +>>2551551 +Lol, muh vertical tiktok video. I don't know how you resisted the urge to beat all 4 of them with the tripod. Please share the link where everyone posts their pictures and videos +--- 2552335 +>>2545083 +not that anon but i'm finding this hard as i try to get into winter hiking. i could only go 3 times out this winter so far (it's been shit few months) but the learning curve is very steep and costly, all 3 expeditions were mostly failures. now i have crampons, i will go out again but i think the deep snow will fuck me again and i won't even reach the start of the steep part. breaking snow is so hard but i don't want to spend 100 more dollars in gear like skis or shoe rackets +--- 2552364 +>>2544977 +unfathomably based... I kneel +--- 2552780 +>>2551551 +Find normal people to hike with. They are out there. Avoid city women. +--- 2552787 +>>2544978 +>they wouldn't stop talking +If you don't want to chat, why choose a group? +--- 2552826 +>>2545727 +Old hiking hippy ladies are pure kino and very unappreciated +--- 2552840 +>>2552826 +Are they good for a midnight romp in the tent? +--- 2552889 +>>2552138 +Me suena basado, francamente +--- 2552890 +>>2552840 +How could they not be? Fit and no chance of getting pregnant. It's the best of all worlds anon +--- 2553126 +>>2545073 +Imagine if she found you wrote this how emotionally broken she would be in case she was genuinely happy to be with u and at the river. Damn nigger +--- 2553142 +>>2551561 +I bring a tripod backpacking so that I can take Milky Way photos. If you're into landscapes or wildlife it's fine, but I have no reason to defend these iphone instathots. +>>2551551 +I am sorry you had to endure this. If you can tolerate the group, try to find any non-shitty people in the group and break off into a separate group with them. Women may be intimidated by this, but you might meet like-minded men to be friends with. +--- 2553153 +>>2549501 +the smell +--- 2555037 +>>2550348 +Cuck +--- 2556911 +>>2553153 +Smells like heaven Tbh +--- 2557359 +Why deal with facebergsteins when you could just bring a frend or two. +--- 2557382 +>>2557359 +I dont have friends anon... +--- 2557406 +>>2557359 +This ain't a normie board. +--- 2557488 +>>2545711 +You know where there's even less people? In your room. +Stay inside you autistic faggot. +--- 2557496 +>>2557406 +It really is. Neets are too afraid to leave their comfort zones. There's loads of normies on this board, since they don't let their anxiety and depression stop them from going outside, unlike neets. +--- 2557534 +>>2557382 +Don't let being spergy stop you from making friends broham. Some of my favorite people are a bit kooky. Better weird than having an npc worldview. +--- 2557542 +>>2557406 +Ima pretend you dint just call me normal, fagget +--- 2557585 +>>2557496 +Lots of neets go outside and have more time for outdoor activities than wageslaves you hopeless retard + +>>2557488 +>in a room that's still surrounded by people vs. the outdoors where you can be miles away from the nearest human +Sub-nigger IQ comment. Kys for the betterment of humanity. +--- 2557653 +>>2545646 +Yes. Autism. +--- 2557657 +>>2557359 +Why is there an ammo box to the right? +Who the fuck brings an ammo box hiking? +--- 2557658 +>>2557657 +Going by the context of the photo, there probably a summit register stored in that box +--- 2557668 +>>2557658 +Kek. You guys don't climb with a full box of 7.62x51 real fkn nato? Ngmi +--- 2557977 +>>2557585 +Too bad they don't have any money for it +--- 2559425 +>>2544967 (OP) +Did you bang? +--- 2560092 +Anons, do you think it's worth paying money for a guided hike to a 100+ foot waterfall on private land? Or should I be like the college kids in the area who just trespass there to party and litter (without the partying and littering part)? It's $20 for a group hike and $100 for a private guided tour. I'm more than capable of reaching the waterfall on my own. I just don't want to get caught and cited for trespassing. +--- 2560094 +>>2560092 +Nobody gets to own a 100' waterfall. Do it, trespass. Fuck boomers. +--- 2561435 +>>2557542 +He's right tho +--- 2561730 +>>2545073 +Advice for life + +If she's a true 6/10 or above she won't stink. If literally anything makes her a 5/10 or under she can stink. Every beautiful women I've been with has smelled amazing and isn't a ding ding and will take care of themselves. + +Unless you're a dingle yourself you know when they naturally can't help it. If a chick or even you yourself comes back from the gym yeah you're not gonna smell the best. But I have a feeling you're talking about girls that straight up don't wash their bodies, that's a 5/10 at best and you can tell by their personalities or looks. It's honestly simple as that. + +For reference 6/10 is the majority of cute girls. They're wifey material potentially. 5/10's are girls who don't fix their teeth, weight, acne etc. Nothing necessary wrong with it but you're average at best at that point ya dig? +--- 2561735 +>>2557657 +It's a box of condoms +--- 2561738 +>>2557359 +>who doesn't? +--- 2561845 +>>2544977 +--- 2561846 +>>2544978 +>>their dogs, and they wouldn't stop talking, it was horrible. +You went on a hike with talking dogs? +--- 2561877 +>>2544982 +>saw one other person +Hike ruined. +--- 2561886 +>>2561877 +This. I've done 27 miles without seeing a soul outside of our group (of frens, not strangers from the internet). +--- 2561900 +>>2544977 +>I used to hike alone +I wonder how many people thought that while I was spying on them? pic related. Next time you think you're alone take out your camera and turn up the settings and take 360 degree pics. Then look carefully at home. +--- 2561913 +The best way to ruin and outdoors experience is to bring other people +--- 2561929 +>>2551551 +>constantly stopping to rest and take stupid pictures +it's a stereotype for a reason. When I go skiing with my sisters, they probably take upwards of 10 pictures/snapchats through the trip, either of themselves or the scenery +--- 2561930 +>>2561877 +Fucking this +When I go up my favorite trail, I always keep an ear out for chatter so I can go off the trail or hide before I see anyone, just so I can avoid any kind of interaction +--- 2561942 +>>2561900 +no one sneaks up on a Ranger from the North +--- 2562666 +>>2561900 +I have a bike in dire need of a top end rebuild. I'm not sneaking up on anyone. +--- 2562667 +>>2561929 +Nothing wrong with taking pictures when you go /out/. It would just be annoying if everyone in the group does it and you have to stop every 5 seconds. +--- 2562668 +>>2551551 +Did you fuck the one in the middle? +--- 2562687 +>>2544971 +How do you hike alone? I live in eastern europe and i wish i would hike more often but i feel like alone is too dangerous. One bad encounter with a bear or a wolf and thats it. +--- 2563390 +>>2561730 +Look Benny I don't care about your cooter stink theory, just hand over the platinum chip +--- 2563660 +>>2544978 +> and the girls would do cringy faces and poses every couple minutes + +Let me guess, girls ware with boyfriends and maybe even fucked at night and you are single + +Id felt bad too +--- 2563679 +>>2544967 (OP) +Yes. Going with people ruins immersion. Also “hiking groups” are full of social media normies that care more about updating their snapchat/facebook/twitter profiles for updoots rather than actually enjoying the hiking experience. That being said, make sure you go prepared and you’ll really enjoy it. +--- 2563681 +>>2563679 +>the anime poster is some random bitter incel +You can't make this stuff up. +--- 2563686 +>>2544967 (OP) +shorts and a down jacket oh lawd +--- 2563687 +>>2563681 +Anime website, lost r*ddit tourist. Also 2D women>trashy 3D women. +--- 2563689 +>>2545103 +this guy fucks + +>>2553126 +also this, there is no hope for your future together +--- 2563691 +>>2545361 +>2545711 +No but it does require you to do every bit of ascent about twice +--- 2563732 +>>2552135 +Feelin' lucky? +--- 2563737 +I took a female friend hiking with me once. Big mistake. Ended up having to cut the trip short and I missed out on a few spots I wanted to hit because we spent like 3 hours making out and fucking. +--- 2563787 +>>2551551 + +The correct action to take here when you see that rock is to look at it and think to yourself "I could shelter under that if it rains" and then carry on, never to think of the rock again. +--- 2563809 +>>2561730 +She's going to stink after hiking. Just don't go at it from behind after you're done hiking and you'll be fine. If you behind her over and spread her, you'll get the full smell of the holding tank on a crab boat. Pretty easy to avoid. +--- 2563810 +>>2544977 +cringe, but also based and now I'm gonna do this +--- 2563814 +>>2551551 +love from Kazakhstan +--- 2563815 +>>2557359 +been trying to invite my "friends" and they just ignore my messages or don't answer calls +lol +;_; +--- 2563818 +>>2563815 +adding to ths +I have the week off work and all I've done is watch youtube videos of people going /out/ +why couldn't I have been born a normalfag +--- 2563824 +>>2563818 +just go out alone, stop dreaming, start doing +--- 2563831 +>>2563824 +i tried just now there are so many people everywhere already and my anxiety goes up im just gonna kill myself +--- 2563839 +>>2563831 +>wahhh other people might briefly look at me +>wahhh can't find isolated places in the forest +you sound like a faggot +--- 2563867 +>>2562687 +The chance of a wolf or a bear fucking with you is basically zero. Carry bear spray if you're that worried about it. +--- 2563900 +>>2557359 +Crazy, that female has attracted two orbiting bodies +--- 2563902 +>>2563831 +How many of those people did you judge or remember as much as you believe they're going to judge or remember you? +--- 2563910 +>>2544978 +>I hate people and dogs +>goes with a group. +Anon... +--- 2563927 +>>2561900 +Sometimes I wonder how many times ive had a gun trained on me out in the woods. Im decently aware of my surroundings, but past certain distances how am I even supposed to know. +--- 2564979 +>>2544977 +Posters like you are what makes this board so fucking good +--- 2565017 +>>2563831 +hike at night bro. +--- 2565521 +>>2563910 +You can hate idiots without being a misanthrope. The worst is when some idiot constantly complains about his feet hurting because he just bought new shoes. +--- 2565745 +>>2544978 +Hey at least you tried, partying up with randos to any activity is always a hit or miss. Just do some solo hikes, maybe ask that facebook group about other good trails to check out. Maybe someone from that group will be more like you and also prefer to hike without the stopping, talking and dogs. +--- 2566538 +I want to start doing overnight hiking - what do I need for this? obviously water, snacks, and a tent... but where the hell can I pitch my tent? just anywhere? +--- 2566539 +>>2566538 +in the woods, preferably in a national park or national forest, or state forest or even a county park. preferably inna woods and preferably near a fresh water source like a river or strong running creek, or stream, tributary, rivulet or the like diff --git a/out/2545333.txt b/out/2545333.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ee61db0b409f8580d8d85d8ce5930a4bdf2732aa --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2545333.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1175 @@ +----- +--- 2545333 +We seem to have some debate over med kits so let us discuss them. I carry; + +>Israeli trauma bandage +>Snake bite bandage +>Imodium +>Promethazine +>5x band aid +>5x alcohol wipes + +I don't see a reason to carry more. What do you carry? +--- 2545337 +>>2545333 (OP) +I'd add some Bactine for sterilizing wounds and killing the pain, and some iodine for cleaning them out. And gauze. More fucking gauze than you know what to do with. And at least one dose of QuickClot for leakers. Other than that I think you're good. +--- 2545340 +Checked and kek'd, I'm enjoying the first aid gatekeeping in the UL thread. I've got a little boo-boo kit for day hikes and overnighters: +>3x band-aids +>liquid bandage (also flammable) +>antibiotic ointment (mostly just fills space and keeps things from rattling) +>5x alcohol pads +I have a more serious kit if I plan to be way out for multiple days. It does not have chest seals. +--- 2545343 +>>2545337 +When you say "dose" of QC, do you mean one of their sponges, or a powder form? All I see from the actual company these days is dressings. +--- 2545345 +>>2545333 (OP) +You need a tourniquet, burn spray, some type of sting treatment, and butterfly stitches as well. Maybe those disposable scalpels too. Picrel for simple tourniquet. + +>>2545340 +No idea what UL is but you should have a chest seal with you. +--- 2545351 +>>2545333 (OP) +No blister treatment? Get some leukotape and a safety pin. It’s probably the single most common hiking injury. + +Add some gauze and you can make your own bandaids. The adhesive on the leukotape is way, way better than bandaids, and it can be cut to different shapes and sizes (quite easily if you have scissors). +--- 2545353 +>>2545345 +bait/10 +--- 2545357 +>>2545353 +>getting common items for first aid is bait +I'd rather have them sit in my pack and collect dust than not have them and suddenly need them in a dire situation. +--- 2545358 +>>2545333 (OP) +>500x alcohol wipes +I use so many of these fuckers while /out/ +--- 2545359 +>>2545358 +Tbh yeah I'd just buy a whole box of them. They're great for all kinds of stuff. +--- 2545365 +>>2545357 +>doubles down +--- 2545369 +>>2545345 +An israeli bandage is a tourniquet +--- 2545381 +>>2545369 +I think a lot of people overlook how simple a TQ can be. If you're seriously leaking, you don't have time to fret over a sterile TQ with a carbon fiber windlass and hypo-allergenic velcro. You can use all sorts of shit. +--- 2545383 +>>2545369 +I read that a tourniquet goes above the wound while the Jew bandage goes over it. Either way, no one in this thread has ever had to use one while out. Inb4 “yes I did.” No you didn’t. Take your bullshit LARP back to /k/. +--- 2545391 +>>2545381 +Even rope can be used as one. + +>>2545383 +The jew bandage has enough compression to be used as a tourniquet. The reality is that if you're applying a tourniquet then you think you're going to die. There's no need to apply both. You can completely cut off the circulation to the limb using the jew bandage as a tourniquet so there is no need to use it as a bandage. +--- 2545393 +>>2545383 +>Take your bullshit LARP back to /k/. +I didn't read your entire post and only just saw this. What the fuck are you talking about. Stop schizo ranting in every damn thread you weirdo. +--- 2545394 +>>2545333 (OP) +Post more packing lists, bros +--- 2545400 +>>2545393 +>I can’t be bothered to read four short sentences +Maybe you should so you don’t have to ask +>what are you talking about +--- 2545401 +>>2545400 +Man half your post was you dropping a pre-emptive argument it's no wonder I mentally filtered it kek. It's weird to see. I have never had to nor claimed that I have had to use a tourniquet however if I do both my snake bite bandage and my israeli bandage can be used as a tourniquet. I'm much more likely to slip over and slash an odd part of my body on a rock, this is where the israeli bandage comes into play but the snake bite bandage can also be used. There's no need to start dropping pre-emptive arguments based on nothing but your own imagination. I'm hoping I never have to apply a tourniquet. There's also no need to carry a dedicated one as both my bandages can do the job. +--- 2545402 +>>2545401 +So you’ve never had to use one. Great. +>has never seen “inb4” +Also great lol +--- 2545403 +>>2545402 +Are you arguing just for the sake of arguing. +--- 2545405 +>>2545365 +Yeah nah. Your trolling attempt is lazy. + +>>2545369 +My bad, I thought an Israeli bandage was for stuffing wounds. + +>>2545381 +But a normal tourniquet is also $25 on Amazon. It's easy enough to get one, throw it in the outer pocket of your pack, and forget about it. I wouldn't want to be attempting to tear my shirt or use rope or something if I'm bleeding that badly. +--- 2545406 +>>2545405 +>My bad, I thought an Israeli bandage was for stuffing wounds. +It is but it has enough compression to be used as a tourniquet. +--- 2545407 +>>2545403 +Don’t forget your chest seal and your BVM, because you never know, right? (People with experience do know). +--- 2545409 +>>2545345 +This is bait, right? +It’s pretty good because I can’t tell for sure +--- 2545410 +>>2545405 +>MUH DIRE SITUATION! +You have to leave the house first. +--- 2545413 +>>2545407 +Why are you like this? +--- 2545416 +>>2545413 +Pretty sure it's one guy going to every thread and sperging about his "experience" +--- 2545417 +>>2545413 +>I’d rather have it and not need it than need it an not have it +This is the motto of a true LARPer. It’s kind of like a condom; you’ll literally never need it. +--- 2545419 +>>2545416 +Seems like it. + +>>2545417 +I have never said such things. In Australia it's pretty normal to carry a snake bite and a trauma bandage. +--- 2545434 +>>2545419 +Is it normal to have to use them? +--- 2545436 +>>2545434 +I don't know. +--- 2545508 +>>2545409 +It's definitely bait. Nobody is seriously going to advise something like burn spray, but then also say you need chest seals. +--- 2545517 +>>2545369 +It assuredly is not Anon. Israeli Dressing is a pressure dressing, it goes on the wound. Tourniquet is a tourniquet, it goes high and tight to restrict blood flow to the wound. It takes like 30s of internet searching to figure this shit out. +--- 2545519 +My chainsaw accident kit: +>CAT Gen7 +>compressed Gauze +>Quick Clot +>Traumafix Dressing +>space blanket +>shears +>gloves +>tweezers +I also carry Booboo kit with +>alcohol wipes +>bandaids +>painkillers +>diarrhoea meds +--- 2545527 +>>2545517 +An israeli bandage provides enough compression to be used as a tourniquet. If you tear one sleeve off your shirt, that torn sleeve provides enough compression to be used as a tourniquet. If you carry any type of rope, that rope provides enough compression to be used as a tourniquet. If you carry a snake bite bandage, that snake bite bandage provides enough compression to be used as a tourniquet. In most cases your shoelace provides enough compression to be used as a tourniquet. + +Why the fuck are you weirdos so obsessed with dedicated tourniquets. All it has to do is cut off circulation. +--- 2545530 +>>2545519 +Careful, he's going to call this bait. +--- 2545534 +>>2545530 +Yeah, i forgot that this is /out/ where nothing bad ever happens and your super minimalist UL kit will never be a detriment to you. Helping others is also super overrated, so i will only carry medical gear and tools, that apply to my increadibly narrow use case. +--- 2545535 +>>2545527 +Because if I need a tourniquet I want to use a tourniquet. Not the sleeve of my shirt or waste my Israeli bandage by tying it ABOVE the wound and then having to find a windlass. If you're able to stop the bleed from a wound by applying direct pressure to it, then you didn't need to use a tourniquet in the first place. If you can provide some valid documentation proving otherwise I'll happily concede the point. +--- 2545546 +>>2545333 (OP) +Dry bag 1,25L +Different bandaids +Gauze roll +Wound pad +Medical tape +Basic drugs (painkillers, allergies, stomach) +Mylar blanket +Safety pin +Water purification tablets +SAK Rambler +Zip ties +Duct tape +Micro paracord + +Basic, does the job, weighs nothing and is compact +--- 2545547 +>>2545535 +>you're so injured you're willing to use a tourniquet +>I don't want to waste my $10 israeli bandage +>dies +Kek +--- 2545548 +>>2545546 +Oh and alcohol wipes, tick remover. +--- 2545549 +>>2545534 +Post scars +--- 2545551 +>>2545535 +Here's your documentation. Also while we are at it. Post a photo of the tourniquet that you carry when hiking. +--- 2545554 +>>2545546 +Based microcordchad +--- 2545558 +>>2545551 +>n-n-noooo! It doesn't count just because it was successful, everyone has to do it or it's a larp REEEEE +--- 2545559 +>>2545558 +Bro just take a pic of the gear you're advocating for it isn't difficult. +--- 2545561 +>>2545559 +Anon, I was making fun of the TQ shill not you. +--- 2545562 +>>2545561 +Ah +--- 2545563 +>>2545549 +you are lucky, that i am drunk right now, otherwise i wouldnt drop so low as to reply to a parasite like you. +I am genuinly disturbed by you people, you might not realize it, but you will end up killing someone with your rhetoric. +I fixed this with a leather belt, i wouldnt have been able to do that on myself, loosing blood, without a proper tq, this picture 2as taken on the last day i left home without a cat. +--- 2545567 +>>2545563 +I'm not sure, if you're advocating, for fancy expensive TQs, or whatever you have to hand, though it certainly seems, as though, you survived, with, only, a, be,lt. +--- 2545569 +>>2545530 +Is “he” in the room with you right now? +--- 2545572 +>>2545569 +A he just flew over my house +--- 2545578 +>>2545567 +I think he is saying that this happened to someone else and he was able to use a belt, but if he had a similar injury while alone he would not have been able to use a belt to stop the bleeding which is why he carries his chainsaw accident kit. +--- 2545580 +>>2545578 +this +>>2545567 +i am advocating for you to get whatever training and gear you can to save your friends or yours life. + +It is amazing how fast the human body looses strengh, once you poke a hole in it. You wont be able to rip your sleeve and improvise a TQ, if a major artery has been nicked. Be trained, be prepared, be ready. +--- 2545716 +>>2545527 +>Why the fuck are you weirdos so obsessed with dedicated tourniquets. All it has to do is cut off circulation. +Because dedicated tqs work better + +>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/fullarticle/2738052 +In a study of 102 laymen who had just completed an ACS Bleeding Control Basic training only 32.4% of participants were able to correctly apply an improvised tourniquet (defined as one that provided sufficient pressure to halt bleeding) even in a non-stressful situation when provided with appropriate materials (i.e. they didn't have to think about taking their belt off or searching for a windlass). In comparison 92.2% of participants correctly applied a CAT tourniquet. +Interestingly people were better off with an improvised tq than using SWAT-T or RATS. + +>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26125163/ +Without a windlass, improvised tourniquets failed to stop bleeding in 99% of tests (79 of 80 tests). With a windlass, improvised tourniquets failed to stop bleeding in 32% of tests (p < .0001). + +>https://www.annemergmed.com/article/S0196-0644(20)31170-7/fulltext +In a study80 hospital employees (including a mix of healthcare professionals and non-healthcare hospital employees) 32% of subjects were able to stop simulated hemorrhage on the initial improvised tourniquet trial, this number rose to 68% following simulator-based training instructing them on the use of commercial and improvised training. In comparison 94% of subjects using CAT tourniquet were able to successfully stop simulated hemorrhage. +Read that again, even after dedicated training and practice only 68% of individuals could control bleeding using an improvised tourniquet. This was in ideal situations after being provided with a wide variety of appropriate tourniquet materials, and applying it to a manikin rather than one-handed on their own body. +--- 2545719 +>>2545716 +So lessons from this +>Carry a commercial tourniquet if you can +>If you're caught without one then make sure your improvised tourniquet is a windlass designed, don't just slap a belt around the limb and try to pull it tight like a retard. +>Be aware of failure points. If you read the articles I linked some of failures of improvised tourniquets were the result of belts snapping at the belt buckle when people turned the windlass to tighten them or shit like that. +>Ideally a tourniquet should have a cuff at least 1.5'' wide. Thinner tqs such as wire, tubing or bootlaces tend to be much more painful and carry a greater risk of neurological injury. +--- 2545734 +>>2545719 +Carrying a TQ makes sense if your hunting or logging or something like that, but your just packing your fears if your thru hiking or wilderness backpacking +--- 2545740 +>>2545333 (OP) +Short dayhike +>SWAT-T +SWAT-T is a shitty tourniquet unless you know what you're doing and have had the opportunity to practice on a simulator but it is significantly lighter than anything else, and can also be used to improvise a pressure dressing or a splint +>Tylenol +>Ibuprofen +>Oxycodone +>Bandaids + +Overnight hike +Above plus +>Ondansetron +>Imodium +>Jew bandage +>More bandaids +>Leukotape +>Gauze +>Alcohol wipes + +Serious /out/ +Above plus +>CAT tourniquet +>Loratadine +>Aspirin +>Triple ointment +>50cc syringe +>Quikclot +>Tissue adhesive +>Butterfly sutures +>More gauze +>More tape +>Triangular bandage +>Various dressings +>Compression bandage +>Gloves + +Depending on the situation (whether I'm going hunting, how much I care about weight, etc) I may add +>SAM splint +>Trauma shears +>Chest seals + +>>2545734 +Depends on the area and what you're doing. Not hard to get shot by someone who's mistaken you for a turkey or to slip and slice your arm open with a knife or hatchet. +They really don't take up much weight and it could save your life. +--- 2545776 +>>2545740 +>Not hard to get shot by someone who's mistaken you for a turkey +What a sad statement +>slip and slice your arm open with a knife or hatchet. +I don’t take a hatchet when wilderness backpacking, that’s bushcraft LARP shit, and you shouldn’t be carelessly walking around with it like that in the first place. +What kind of retard doesn’t either carry it with the sheath on, or at least with the blade facing away from them? +Either way, I would put using an axe or hatchet in the same catagory as chainsaw or gun. +If you’re doing something that could mangle or kill you accidentally when using it, then yah carrying a tourniquet makes sense. +--- 2545905 +>>2545776 +>if you use a hatchet you're larping +Opinion discarded +--- 2545949 +>>2545333 (OP) + +Once you get the proper training, you'll want to carry a serious med kit. + + +CAT tourniquet +Irrigation syringe +Israeli bandage +Trauma shears +SAM Splint +1 Coban wrap +quick clot trauma pack (includes hemostatic gauze) +2 sets of nitrile gloves +2 triangular bandages +2 hyfin chest seals +mask + +Meds: +2 diphenhydramine +2 Ibuprofen +2 acetomeniphen +2 aspirin +Roll of antacid +4 imodium +epi pen +2 electolyte drink mixes +2 honey packets + +Boo-boo kit: +4 band-aids +4 small band-aids +1 small gauze pad +roll of leukotape around a credit card +small roll of duct tape +--- 2545953 +>>2545345 +can i tourniquet with a 1.5mm dyneema guyline? +--- 2545955 +>>2545949 +Based sam splint carrier +--- 2545960 +>>2545953 + +In theory, yes. In practice, it's highly unlikely you will be able to do it correctly and such a thin line will cause excruciating pain to your patient. +--- 2545971 +>>2545527 +>An israeli bandage provides enough compression to be used as a tourniquet. +--- 2545976 +>>2545333 (OP) +>Israeli trauma bandage +Why americans have to make everything "tactical"? +I just carry a bunch of gauzes, and an elastic bandage. +--- 2546008 +>>2545333 (OP) +>>2545401 +>>2545519 +>>2545716 +>>2545719 +>>2545740 +>>2545949 +some of the best comedy i've read all week +lmfao bwahahahahhahahahahahhahahaaaaa +--- 2546014 +what do you guys carry your fak things in? i use a 1L ziplock bag but want to switch to something more durable but similar weight. +--- 2546017 +>>2546008 + +Could you post your picture of yourself or any identifying tattoos so that if I'm ever in a position to rescue you I'll know to just go ahead and let you bleed out. +--- 2546018 +>>2546014 + +https://www.cloudgearstore.com/product-page/new-square-zip-pouch +--- 2546019 +>>2546014 +I used a military tear away IFAK I picked up at a surp store. Cheap, effective, keeps shit organized, 500d so abrasion resistant and generally water repellant. +Weighs a tad more than Ziploc but not by much, and it's offset by the endless seething it generates in weirdly obsessive anti-tactical crowd. +--- 2546029 +>>2545905 +Lol bushcrafting is larping tho, why you so upset? +--- 2546032 +>>2546017 +PLEASE +the last thing i want is one of you untrained retards trying to perform bush surgery on me. just let me die if i fall off the ropes. fuck's sake. +--- 2546038 +>>2546032 +>untrained + +I have an active WFR certification, but whatever. +--- 2546042 +>>2546018 +thanks, seems kinda pricey for small dcf bag though, they are usually 5-10usd, my original kit was like 50g for the bag alone i thought that was unnecessary for an item i wont give a shit if it gets a hole in it +>>2546019 +>offset by the endless seething it generates in weirdly obsessive anti-tactical crowd. +kek +--- 2546044 +>>2546042 + +There is an advantage to having a bright red bag with "FIRST AID KIT" written on it. If someone else needs it, they can find it. As opposed to a package that could be anything. +--- 2546060 +>>2546019 +This. The IFAK shell works great for storing shit, doesn't have to be chest seals and NPAs. The fact that autists go into conniptions over it being "larp" gear is a bonus. +--- 2546144 +>>2545333 (OP) +gauze +super glue +compression bandage +lukotape +bottle of peroxide +safety pins +bleedstop +samsplint +gatorade mix +needle and thread +tent patches +ibuprophen +benadril +anti diarrhea medicine +>>2545345 +>tourniquet +just wear a belt +>burn spray +>sting treatment +how about not being a pussy +>chest seal +nigger you ain't chest sealing yourself and making it out. if your kit is for other as well yes. +--- 2546150 +>>2546144 +Lame attempt at trolling. +--- 2546159 +>>2546144 +Do you put the peroxide in any special bottle, or just the one off the shelf? Those seem a bit bulky to take in a kit. +--- 2546169 +>>2545333 (OP) +In addition to all that, I carry a surgical stapler with me in case of a real emergency. +--- 2546173 +Pic rel is the kit I carry when hiking and pretty much day to day too +--- 2546175 +>>2546173 + +Well, looks like you've got some good pain killers at least. +--- 2546176 +>>2546175 +The spoon is from my cook kit +--- 2546178 +>>2546176 + +I like how you cut down the handle, very UL of you. +--- 2546181 +>>2545333 (OP) +>I don't see a reason +I read this, and variants of it, so often on /out/ that I too might start to think there are only four actual people who use this board. Bear in mind that just because you don't see a reason doesn't mean it isn't there. You don't see 99.9% of spiders, either, but they're there. +--- 2546183 +>>2546173 +I hope you have some wild adventures, because that H is guaranteed going to kill you. +--- 2546184 +>>2546181 +I think there's a decent few people here, but definitely just a handful who keep shitting up threads with contrarianism. There's the boomer who says that everything is nonsense, the "experience" guy, one who says that everything is a larp no matter what, maybe a couple of others. They're all pretty obnoxious. +--- 2546187 +>>2546184 +>a handful who keep shitting up threads +>the “experience” guy +What? +--- 2546192 +>>2546187 +There's (I assume) one guy who posts in multiple threads, shitting on other anons with references to his experience, or how his experience "lines up" with everyone else's, so anyone who disagrees with him "doesn't go /out/". +--- 2546220 +Why the fuck would I need a tourniquet to walk around in the woods for a couple of days I’m not about to step on a fucking landmine +--- 2546226 +>>2546192 +Idk about you, but I’m much more willing to listen to someone who can prove they have experience with what they are talking about than some anon with no proof. +--- 2546250 +>>2546226 +Agreed; you'll never see these assholes proving their experience. They're just here to gatekeep. +--- 2546255 +>>2545383 +Yea except I have. I'm an arborist and one of the climbers I was working with didnt use his lanyard and swung into his chainsaw blade, he zipped down and I tourniquet'ed his arm and wrapped some gauze/blood clot gauze around it and drove him to the hospital. We weren't even issued actual medical kits on the jobs just basic bitch boo boo kits. I had a personal trauma kit in my bag. +--- 2546256 +>>2546032 +Important for all readers, first aid actions are almost universally limited to keeping the blood in and the body working long enough for someone with real training and real equipment support to do the real saving. Which is exactly why purpose built items like a good TQ (cat, softtw) are a thing, because several years of GWOT have shown that even crayon eaters can save lives with this one simple trick. Agree with most others here though, the complexity of the kit increases as risk (hatchets, trail difficulty and remoteness, hunting season) increase. + + >>2546220 +Your actually more likely to use one on the ride to and from the trail, so a car kit is pretty good kit. +--- 2546262 +>>2546014 +freezer bags with zip are tougher than regular zip bags, buy at same place +--- 2546274 +>>2546255 +Is being an arborist in some suburb really /out/? +--- 2546276 +>>2546274 +>guy shares experience relative to the conversation +>"hurr durr it isn't /out/ because I don't like his job" +Do you have a TQ experience to share? +--- 2546299 +>>2546276 +Simply being outside of a building does not mean you are /out/, and the guy he was responding to said +>Either way, no one in this thread has ever had to use one while out +Personally, I don’t consider anything done in a suburb to be /out/ +--- 2546367 +>>2546299 +/out/ disagrees. The board considers literally anything done outside to be an outdoor activity. If you step into your backyard to smoke a pipe, these retards think that counts. It’s an obvious diversion from the norm, where “the outdoors” is understood to be outdoor recreation, ie things that can’t generally be done in a city or suburbs. +--- 2546369 +>>2546192 +>I have a lot of experience +>everyone else is wrong +Do you see how retarded that is? +--- 2546392 +>>2546367 + +Well yeah, except for Golf. +--- 2546408 +>>2546369 +Anon, that's the point. +--- 2546471 +>>2545333 (OP) +My work first aid kit (arborist) +>israeli bandage x3 (need at least 3 for an impaling wound) +>CAT +>celox +>superglue pipette (bin and replace after using it, it won't last until you need it next) +>tweezers +>sterile scalpel blades (which I've always kept in there + the super glue since the blackthorn buried in my palm which the NHS said they couldn't remove so I'd just have to leave an inch of poisonous needle in my hand until my body broke it down) +>alcohol wipes xyou never have enough +>hand sanitiser +>FFD x2 (basically a highly absorbent gauze bandage impregnated with a coagulant, will soak up a pint of blood) +And my "comfort kit" because I'm not allowed to keep any pharmaceuticals in my first aid kit in this godforsaken country (and yes the government and insurers will go looking if there's an incident) +>antihistamines +>oral painkillers +>topical antibiotic +>burn gel sachets +--- 2546472 +>>2545519 +>diarrhoea meds +This, I also carry loperamide pills +Out here you never know what tap is mains or groundwater, or what's in it +My whole team once got the shits from a water tank that had a dead pigeon marinating in it +--- 2546473 +>>2546014 +Cheapo velcro backed IFAK for actual first aid, retard orange dry bag for pharmaceuticals +--- 2546497 +>>2546367 +Well the people who think that are wrong and have never read the sticky +--- 2546526 +>>2546471 +>not allowed to keep any pharmaceuticals in my first aid kit +What the fuck? What's their justification for that? +--- 2546533 +>>2546526 +Cos you might accidentally kill somebody by giving them a painkiller +I am not joking +Occupational first aid kits, whether they are for yourself or your team, cannot contain any pharmaceutical products +So everyone who has a first aid kit needs to carry two, so if there is an incident you can tell HSE you just used the legal first aid kit and the "comfort kit" is your prescription medication even though everyone knows it's basic shit +This is the same country where complimentary plastic cutlery was removed from petrol stations and ready meals etc because they're legally a weapon, so that should tell you all you need to know about the quality of our laws +--- 2546543 +I'm an unrepentant optimist who carries a blister kit and ibuprofen, gauze, and tape. This has always worked for me, but I unfortunately watched a person die from a fall. A tourniquet wouldn't have saved her, but after reading this thread I think a CAT will go with me on some outings. +--- 2546544 +When the fuck am I ever going to need to use a tourniquet +--- 2546547 +>>2546544 +You never know bro, you gotta be prepared for ANYTHING! +>hikes one mile innawoods with pic rel to make an a-frame out of sticks +--- 2546557 +>>2546544 +Do you bowhunt, ice climb, or camp out with an accident prone retarded friend? I do all three. +--- 2546561 +>>2546557 +I don't even carry a tourniquet when we pig hunt with dogs... how could I require a tourniquet from how hunting even with a catastrophic arrow failure that sends it through my hand no tq needed +--- 2546580 +>>2546561 +Walking down a steep muddy slope you slip, trip, and fall forward. Your bow flies outta your hand and an arrow lands with the broadhead pointing up at you. The broadhead pierces your femoral artery. Ok, I know it's a long shot but I have tripped, let go of my bow, and an arrow came out of the quiver. I'm not saying you should carry a tourniquet, just saying that I will because 6 razor sharp pointy sticks is enough for me. Also, my fukken idiot brother slipped while climbing up to his stand and landed on his bow. +--- 2546583 +>>2546580 +>walking with an arrow nocked +there's your problem +--- 2546601 +What the fuck is up with you american larpers and your obsession with tourniquets? +--- 2546602 +>>2546583 +>an arrow came out of the quiver +>"hurr durr arrow nocked ur fault" +Do you keep crayons in your first aid kit for calories? +--- 2546617 +>>2546583 +I don't walk with a nocked arrow. The bow landed in a bush and I'm guessing a branch popped the arrow out. +--- 2546620 +Recently I read about a hiker who stepped off the trail and found a broadhead tipped arrow with his leg. It was all over the news a couple of months ago. I think there was a thread in archerytalk with a few posters saying they've found arrows in the bushes or whatever. I found one (field trip) in tall grass, so this kind of thing happens. +--- 2546621 +Field trip not trip^^ +--- 2546623 +Tip, motherfucker ^^ +--- 2546685 +>>2546601 +Their opinions are based on YouTube and a just-in-case logical fallacy. + +https://andrewskurka.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-gear-list-downloadable-checklist/ +--- 2546688 +>>2546601 + +You got it wrong. We're obsessed with guns. The tourniquets just come along with it. +--- 2546689 +>>2546601 +We bleed more easily because our blood isn't clotted up with pfizer juice +--- 2546701 +>>2546274 +Who says I work in the suburbs? And no, felling and climbing trees all day isn't an /out/ activity apparently lmao. +--- 2546712 +>>2546274 +Is being a dipshit on /out/ really /out/? +--- 2546718 +>>2546701 +It’s not. +--- 2546728 +>>2546601 +I carry a gun when I go /out/, so best to carry one just incase of accident. +--- 2546729 +>>2546701 +Come on man, everyone knows that you don't actually go /out/ unless you sit at home and shit on people for having things you don't want them to have. /out/ isn't a place; it's a state of mind. +--- 2546762 +>>2546729 +on Clutch +--- 2546790 +>>2546701 +You said you’re an arborist, not a logger or forester, so you’re trimming people’s trees, most likely in a suburb. +>>2546729 +Is walking on a dirt trail in a city park /out/ to you too? +What if there is even a hill? +Location matters in determining what is or isn’t /out/ +>read the fucking sticky +--- 2546799 +>>2546790 +It's okay, anon. Getting the joke is hard, we know. +--- 2546883 +>>2545391 +Nope, apply both for safety, TQ first then I bandage + +>>2545381 +Use specialised equipment or you can explain why you used jungle creepers to stop your bleeding to Jesus + +t. Combat medic +--- 2546911 +A small pack of kaolin bandage/ quikclot would probably be more suitable for most people on the trail than quikclot. You can buy it in small packets the size of a gauze pad +--- 2546912 +>>2546911 +Shit. I meant more suitable than a tourniquet +--- 2546917 +>>2546883 +So if you don't have a CAT handy you just let the man die? Is that really what they teach you guys now? +--- 2547220 +>>2546917 +Anon there was a linked article in this thread that showed that improvised TQs were ass. The comment is obviously not saying to not improvise if you must but that there are proven TQs and that if you are considering preparing for major trauma it would be stupid to insist you are prepared to the best ability by just improvising. + +>>2546601 +Accidents occur all the time. A pack of gauze and a TQ cover a lot. Anything beyond a few minutes from immediate professional and equipped help is potentially a fatal injury that you could help prevent for the low price of knowing some shit and items costing less than a night out. +--- 2547229 +>>2547220 +>Accidents occur all the time. +They do not. You have never needed a tourniquet and you’ve been out since you’ve spent so much time out that you’re practically a tree. +--- 2547232 +I wonder how many people die per year because they sprung a leak in the woods and didn't pack anything to stop it because "you'll never need it". There's got to be statistics somewhere. +--- 2547245 +>>2545333 (OP) +>1/2 roll of duct tape +>roll of electrical tape +>roll of gauze +>.25 liter rubbing alchohol +>tourniquet is a short, pre tied piece of cordage + +Normally I dont even bring the duct tape. I like my stuff to be multi purpose, and multi use. Most injuries you sustain will either not be physical, or be inconsequential. Yes, a cut that bleeds for five minutes before stopping is inconsequential. tape that shit and move on. If you manage to fuck up bad enough that you need actual bandages, then you better hope you have a buddy. + +Feel free to tell me im retarded, because this is just in my experience/what others have told me. +--- 2547246 +>>2547232 +>I wonder how many people die per year because they sprung a leak in the woods and didn't pack anything to stop it because "you'll never need it". +Zero. +--- 2547248 +>>2547246 +Dangerously retarded +--- 2547249 +>>2547245 +>injuries will not be physical +Uhhh what kind of injuries are you suffering, anon? +--- 2547254 +>>2547249 +I probably should have worded that better, lmao. I meant the main threats you should have contingencies for are from exposure. Dehydration is a lot more likely than a compound fracture, and if you're one of those herbalist types, you had BETTER have something for poison. + +My main point was that if you find yourself suddenly with a sucking chest wound, odds are you will not be patching yourself up. If you find yourself with a deep cut, just tape it. If you find yourself with a cut artery, you best tie off your limb right the fuck yesterday, because you have seconds before you get woozy. Dont be the kind of guy who pre-ties a tourniquet to every limb, and wears chain mail, but also don't be the guy who brings a wet wipe and some band-aids and says "yeah ill manage". +--- 2547256 +>>2547254 +This guy gets it. +--- 2547257 +>>2547248 +I don’t think it’s that common. It probably is close to zero. When it comes to hiking it’s only like 140 people a year. About half are from falling off of mountains while climbing. Then you have drownings, a few animal attacks (including bee stings), natural causes, and exposure. +--- 2547259 +>>2547257 +I think I saw that the top cause of death (in US parks) is drowning. I'm sure I can find numbers for exsanguination if I dig. +--- 2547261 +>>2547259 +Yeah, that’s the statistic for National Park visitors. There are statistics specifically for hiking somewhere. +--- 2547262 +>>2547257 +That's confirmed dead annually. Thousands of people go missing, and are never found annually. The answer is likely in the hundreds. +--- 2547265 +>>2547262 +Really? That’s interesting. Can you post any kind of proof? +--- 2547266 +>>2547265 +Thousands, Anon. +Thousands. +--- 2547277 +>>2547265 +Why, certainly anon. I'm glad you asked! + +https://nypost.com/2020/07/04/why-hundreds-of-people-vanish-into-the-american-wilderness/ +>30,000 people annually across the country aren't found + +But of course, that includes cities, suburbs, and such. We wand more specifically, the woodland. +https://nps.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/b526c87ae21f4a669eb6c9238c2c4bcf +>2017 SAR calls +>423 not found +>187 dead +>1.5k injured +This is all the people who had calls put out. I would wager there are at least double this number who never got a call. Naturally, this will vary by year, but I doubt its a double digit percentile. +--- 2547298 +>>2547254 +Ditch the cord for CAT and bobs your uncle. +--- 2547328 +>>2547298 +Cable? +--- 2547382 +>>2545381 +Go back, nerd +--- 2547500 +>>2547382 +To... nugget fest? +--- 2548105 +>>2545333 (OP) +anyone tried this Snakestaff EDC tourniquet? curious what people's impressions are, I've been wanting one for daily carry but seems like backpackers might also like it for the weight/size +--- 2549623 +>>2545410 +>muh +you gave to be 18 to post here +--- 2549986 +Just received my CAT today. It's so surprisingly lightweight and compact that It'll go with me whenever I larp with a machete, axe, or chainsaw. Even if I lose a leg from restricted circulation I'll live to larp again as a peg legged pirate. +--- 2549992 +>>2546883 +>t. Combat medic + +What do you think of a home brew combat pill pouch. 500mg Acetaminophen, 500mg ibuprofen, 509mg amoxicillin? +--- 2549998 +>>2546883 +>t. Combat medic +Calm down ranger Rick, the US hasn't seen combat in a decade now. +--- 2550006 +UL trannies are once again proving that they are fucking insufferably annoying +--- 2550026 +>>2549992 +What sort of scenario do you foresee using that in? + +Double the dose of Tylenol +In general unless you're expecting to be multiple days away from competent medical care then you don't need antibiotics. +--- 2550049 +>>2550006 +/k/ retards carrying like 5 lbs of shit for injuries that you'll never get doing a day hike or backpacking trip are worse. +--- 2550149 +>>2549998 +Not an american +--- 2550152 +>>2550149 +Even worse lmao +--- 2550188 +>>2550006 +>it’s UL fags! +>>2550049 +>it’s /k/ fags! + +Take a step back and try to look from the outside. Let’s presuppose that both groups have zero real world experience. So where can they draw their opinions from? + +The UL faggots can look at people who have done what they’re claiming to do. Thruhikers are a prime example. The Trek takes a survey of AT hikers every year, so there’s actual data. The hikers themselves provide literally thousands of anecdotes from plenty of different trails. UL trannies can also look at individuals with a lot of accomplishments. Andrew Skurka is brought up often. He’s done insane hikes, including thousands of miles of off-trail hiking, as well as leading groups of dumbass rich folks off trail (groups are more prone to injury). + +/k/ faggots don’t have that option, because anyone spending a lot of time outside will have the same opinion as the UL faggots. +--- 2550415 +these +--- 2550419 +>>2550049 +>injuries that you'll never get + +There's your fundamental mistaken assumption. My med kit isn't just for me. +--- 2550421 +>>2546544 +In the event where you resign to losing an entire limb and aren't carrying paracord, duct tape, a bandana, or a garment with sleeves +--- 2550425 +>>2550419 +This distinction is what a lot of people forget in these threads. If it's a strictly personal med kit you probably aren't going to need much more than this >>2546471 +But if you're designated medic for a group and especially if your job is outdoor emergency medicine you'll want stuff like shears, miscellaneous band aids, cravats, and what seems like way too much gauze +--- 2550428 +>>2546601 +Idk it's some prepper geardo status thing I think +I keep a tq in my car and one on me but I'm a forester, I need a tq if I injure myself with a chainsaw +I've seen yanks boasting about how they take as many as 3 tqs out with them. I don't even know if they're joking +--- 2550448 +>>2550026 +> What sort of scenario do you foresee using that in? + +Sliding down a slope and getting stabbed by a muddy stick. + +It was something that was standard in my blow out kit. Asked the corpsman about it and he said it goes through different iterations as they learn more, but basically the idea was the ibuprofen and acetaminophen taken together eased the pain better than anything else and taking an internal anti-biotic was a fail safe. I know the corpsman carried morphine lollipops but I don’t think I’ll be getting my hands on those. +--- 2550451 +>>2548105 +don't waste your money on anything not recommended by the CoTCCC + +https://books.allogy.com/web/tenant/8/books/f94aad5b-78f3-42be-b3de-8e8d63343866/ +--- 2550458 +>>2550448 +>ibuprofen and acetaminophen taken together eased the pain better than anything else +this is true for things like sprains etc. I destroyed my ankle years ago, level 3 sprain and avulsion fracture, an ER doc friend of mine said the acetaminophen/ibuprofen or naproxen stack is nearly as effective as opiates for that kind of injury. but that's at the 4000mg acetaminophen and 1000mg of naproxen per 24hrs dosage +--- 2550735 +>>2546917 +You're an absolute faggot and if you work in emergency medicine, I'd go out of my way to get your negligent cowboy ass fired. +--- 2550738 +>>2550451 +The only thing not CoTCCC recommended that I would still put in a kit is a SWAT. The reason they don't recommend this is because it's hard to apply to your self, but it works well if it's not you strapping yourself up, and it can be used for several other things aside from being a TQ. (and it's cheap, so replacing it isn't painful). +--- 2550739 +>>2550735 +You have to go back to the druggie thread +--- 2552404 +>>2546917 +Pretty much what the goobers in this thread are advocating for, yeah. First aid is lost on the average hiker, I guess. +--- 2552420 +>>2546159 +i have a small clear bottle i wrapped in tape to keep light out. +--- 2552434 +I bought a first aid kit off Amazon and threw in a tourniquet. It's got everything for what you could reasonably be expected to handle. +--- 2552435 +>>2552434 +Post link. +--- 2553284 +>>2552434 +It's not one of those $300 trauma bags is it? +--- 2553503 +>>2549992 + +Pull the ibuprofen from that stack. Generally not recommended for any time of trauma. Most NSAIDs cause issues with the clotting cascade. +--- 2553505 +>>2552420 +I'll have to try that, thanks anon +--- 2553884 +combined medical / toiletries / sewing kit contains: +>old milsurp mirror +>bandages/gauze/butterflies +>imodium, benadryl, and aspirin +>bandana +>alcohol wipes +>toothbrush, toothpaste, dental floss +>eye drops +>baking soda +>baby powder +>sunscreen +>adhesive tape +>cotton swabs +>hand sanitizer +>finger condoms +>finger splint +>lip balm +>safety pins +>needles and thread +>neosporin +it fits nicely in a little 8x6x4" toiletries bag i had lying around. i keep hand sanitizer with my shitting supplies and usually camp with a nalgene full or whiskey. i could probably stash some water purification tablets "just in case," but i always prefer boiling the water +--- 2553888 +Gauze, bandaids, that one amazing aloe skin repair cream put in a tin, and antibacterial wipes. +I don't plan on getting shot or stabbed by a homeless man while in the middle of the Coloradan wilderness. I haven't heard of grizzlies up here either. +--- 2554102 +>>2553888 +No grizzly. Black bear are pussies. There’s some pigmy rattlers in the hot spots. Warm and damp you’ll find some black widows. Mountain lion like all cats are ninja af, but if you can get a blow to their nose they’ll run away. Not many niggers. Spics know their place. Everyone outside of Denver and Boulder is packing. It’s a stand your ground and castle law state, so watch yourself with the crazy bitches. +--- 2554153 +>>2553284 +nah its a 100 piece first aid bag, cost like $30 iirc. +--- 2554194 +>>2554153 +Post link +--- 2554539 +>>2545333 (OP) +It's always good practice when you come across unprepared hikers who +need aid +--- 2554795 +>>2545333 (OP) + +depends on what you're doing and how long. obviously if you're doing something like chopping firewood there is greater risk than during a short 20 mile hike. + +day hike +a couple each small medium and large band aids +blister kit with tape and moleskin +super glue +snivel kit, allergy meds, diarrhea meds, laxatives, pain killers acetaminophen, NSAIDs, i had some opioids but im out now +bunch of alcohol wipes + +real /out/ +larger quantities of everything above add +1x quick clot 1x trauma dressing +gauze +gloves +burn gel +antibiotic gel +tourniquet +--- 2556264 +>>2545563 +Fucking yikes, anon. Saw accidents are nasty, knew a guy who took a saw to the face when it bucked up and wasn't wearing a face shield. Glad buddy made it out alive. Shit like this is why I wear chaps and have a trauma kit anyway when cutting. +--- 2556270 +>>2550188 +wouldn't /k/ fags model it off of militaries? +--- 2556273 +>>2556264 +My cowrker was a logger in Michigan. He was up a tree and forced his saw too hard. It slipped and opened up his inner thigh. You know that artery there? He was half an inch from knicking it. Would have bled out even with a properly done tourniquet with how long they had to drive him to get to help. It's the most dangerous job in America for a reason. +--- 2556281 +>>2556270 +Yes, they would look at people who have been shot or blown up with bazookas and model their recreational outdoor first aid kits after that. It’s why they’re talking about tourniquets. + +Does that sound like a good idea? +--- 2556890 +This is what I carry hiking. The pink pills are bismuth subsalicylate (pepto-bismol) and the blue are ibuprofen. The tape is enough leuko tape for one ankle and 2-3 cut dressings. The circle thing is a silicone cock ring. +--- 2556898 +>>2556890 +>The circle thing is a silicone cock ring. +Check out this fag wasting grams on a silicone cock ring. Not very ultralight of you. +The superior choice is to cinch part of the glove around your dick to act as a tourniquet, it's just as effective and significantly lighter. +--- 2556968 +>>2545343 +dont use powder it'll give you some nasty bloodclots +use the impregnated bandages from quikclot +>captcha SXTTKT +--- 2557069 +>>2556968 +That's what I'm saying; I didn't think you could buy the powder form anymore. I remember hearing people complain about it "burning", but that was probably some whisper-down-the-line shit. +--- 2557144 +>>2557069 +>I remember hearing people complain about it "burning", but that was probably some whisper-down-the-line shit. +No, that was a real problem. The original formulation could reach 95C and cause full-thickness burns even when used as recommended. The issue was especially bad when used to pack deep wounds or covered by thick dressings and left to cook over a long evac flight. +Wasn't just the powder either. The sponge form would do the same. + +They've changed the formulation now though and I'd assume you can't even buy the old stuff. + +The concerns around strokes/clots is a whole different issue. +--- 2559081 +>>2556968 +Just use hemostatic gauze. You can get it off Amazon. +--- 2559119 +>>2559081 +>amazon +Hard pass +--- 2559581 +>>2545333 (OP) +I have a personal first aid kit which includes the following: +>variation of band aids +>blister band aids +>wound compress +>nonwoven swabs +>wound cleansing swabs +>a triangular bandage +>an elastic bandage +>a 4-in-1 first aid bandage (suitable for pressure bandage, burn bandage, can be used to splint an arm or as regural wound dressing) +>a space blanket +>nitrile gloves +>medication (ibuprofein, paracetamol, caffein, viper bite medication, >antihistamine eyedrops and antihistamine pills) +>medical tape +>a tick remover tool +>scissors +>a lighter +All of these fit in to an old Red Cross hikers first aid kit shell. I kerp this set in my backpack. +In addition to what I had already listed, in my right hand cargo trouser pocket I also keep: +>a tourniquet +>an israeli bandage +They both are for in case of the unheard happening. Frankly, I don't believe I ever need them, but if I do, they are there. For example if I happen to hit my knee with an axe at the commonly used wilderness cabins or I get shot by a hunter. +--- 2559590 +>>2559581 +>I kerp this set +I keep this set* +--- 2559597 +>>2559081 +For the love christ, buy your medical gear from a reputable dealer. Do not trust your life to bezomart. +--- 2559685 +>>2559581 +>viper bite medication +What're the ingredients in that? Because to my knowledge there's not medication that's particularly useful for snake bites short of antivenom (which need to be refrigerated). +--- 2559730 +>>2559685 +It contains hydrocortisone, it aims to ease out the bodys reaction as a mean of first aid so that you can get yourself to ER. It also works for wasp and bee stings. Luckily here in Finland the vipers aren't too dangerous though. +--- 2561434 +>>2559119 +>>2559597 +Do you guys actually go outside? Ever? +--- 2561447 +>>2561434 +>if you don't support shitazon then you don't go outside +It's all so tiresome +--- 2561460 +if you need a tourniquet while /out/ you are pretty much dead already. +this is the ideal first aid kit +>bandaids +>alcohol +>cigarettes +>gauze +>tensor bandage +--- 2561463 +>>2561460 +>no mirror +>no tweezers +>no safety pins +>no tape +NGMI +--- 2561464 +>>2561460 +Had me going until I saw cigs. Good one. +--- 2561465 +>>2561464 +im not joking at all. cigs will save you in a life or death situation +--- 2561531 +>>2545333 (OP) +I keep the israeli bandage in my left front leg pocket with my phone, figure if i ever need it i wont have time to walk to the equipment bag, usually gather the firewood a couple hundred yards away from my camp. Bad thing happens, put on the bandage, call for help, then figure out what to do next if you should move, make yourself more visible to rescue or just stay where you are applying pressure on top of the bandage. +--- 2561534 +>>2561447 +Keep trying. You'll get somewhere eventually. +--- 2561552 +>>2556968 +Either way the nurses and ER technicians will hate you for making them debride the qc. It still gets out of the bandages. +But pissing off nurses is what I do best. +IOs 4everything +EMS 4life +--- 2563673 +>>2561552 +based retard +--- 2565273 +>>2545333 (OP) +Bump. Interested in this. +--- 2565624 +>>2563673 +>t. Seething male nurse tranny +--- 2565840 +What is a good lightweight container for first aid kits? +--- 2566152 +>>2545547 +made me laugh +atleast he has $10 though +--- 2566157 +>>2545740 +>Ondansetron +bro where tf you getting OTC Ondansetron? I want some, shits a life saver for hang overs +--- 2566164 +>>2566157 +he's skimming it from a hospital. +--- 2566310 +Honestly how difficult is it to mcgyover a tourniquet from a shirt and a stick? Instead of $60 down the toilet? It's simple pressure, not open heart surgery. Light me up couch doctors. +--- 2566324 +>>2566310 +It's $35, super lightweight, and even a retard can figure it out without instructions. Ultra fast to put on, even one handed. But if you think it's money down the drain, don't buy one. Don't ride with a helmet either, and don't bother packing rain gear 'cause it never rains. The wind will never tear at your tent, you'll never want water in the desert, and you'll never have an auto accident. Trust me bro. +--- 2566347 +>>2566324 +>all of these other circumstances are the same as using an improvised TQ +>srsly guise, if you get rained on ul die +kek +--- 2566390 +Difficult enough apparently. I'd buy a tourniquet rather than risk being one of the 67.6% of people who fail to improvise a functional tourniquet. + +See >>2545716 +>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/fullarticle/2738052 +>In a study of 102 laymen who had just completed an ACS Bleeding Control Basic training only 32.4% of participants were able to correctly apply an improvised tourniquet (defined as one that provided sufficient pressure to halt bleeding) even in a non-stressful situation when provided with appropriate materials (i.e. they didn't have to think about taking their belt off or searching for a windlass). In comparison 92.2% of participants correctly applied a CAT tourniquet. +>Interestingly people were better off with an improvised tq than using SWAT-T or RATS. +>>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26125163/ +>Without a windlass, improvised tourniquets failed to stop bleeding in 99% of tests (79 of 80 tests). With a windlass, improvised tourniquets failed to stop bleeding in 32% of tests (p < .0001). +>>https://www.annemergmed.com/article/S0196-0644(20)31170-7/fulltext +>In a study80 hospital employees (including a mix of healthcare professionals and non-healthcare hospital employees) 32% of subjects were able to stop simulated hemorrhage on the initial improvised tourniquet trial, this number rose to 68% following simulator-based training instructing them on the use of commercial and improvised training. In comparison 94% of subjects using CAT tourniquet were able to successfully stop simulated hemorrhage. +>Read that again, even after dedicated training and practice only 68% of individuals could control bleeding using an improvised tourniquet. This was in ideal situations after being provided with a wide variety of appropriate tourniquet materials, and applying it to a manikin rather than one-handed on their own body. +--- 2566418 +>>2566390 +While the hospital employees study is bullshit because they used a mix (I assume a few cafeteria workers, admin jockeys and custodians got in there), it's still concerning that so few could improv a TQ before they had their hands held. Our medical system really is shit. +--- 2566455 +>>2566347 +I know I said even a retard could put it on but you'll be the exception. +--- 2566479 +>>2566310 +improvised tq fails in the overwhelming majority of cases. You don't have time to "macgyover" one when there is a femoral injury. It is better if you don't have a tq to pack the wound with a clean cloth or hemostatic gauze. You should carry a real tq hunting or shooting. Otherwise it is unnecessary because you are unlikely to experience femoral trauma except with a gunshot wound. A space blanket is 10x more likely to save your life than a tq +--- 2566517 +>>2545333 (OP) + +Thanks for making this thread bro, made me realise my antiseptic had leaked. + +I only have 1 med kit which I take with me everywhere but it does what I need it to + +Contains: +>empty plastic bag +>surgical gloves +>shock blanket +>insect bite cream +>cotton buds +>safety pins +>small scissors +>tweezers +>ibuprofen & paracetamol +>strepsils +>antiseptic +>triangular bandage +>x4 alcohol wipes +>x3 gauze swabs +>x3 roll bandages +>x2 adhesive tape +and as many bandaids as I can fit. + +When going camping I typically stick the Micropur and Hydralyte in there too. + +Have made use of everything at least once except for the shock blanket, triangular bandage and surgical gloves. + +Also been meaning to get some snake bandages but just haven't gotten around to it yet. + +Any recommendations bros? Also what the fuck is an "Israeli bandage"? +--- 2567936 +>>2566517 +Israeli bandage is a compression wrap with a sewn on dressing and a pressure applicator bar built into the wrap. It is like a snakebite/ace bandage but can be self administered one handed and apply pinpoint pressure to control a venous hemorrhage. You should buy a "T3" style Israeli bandage because it includes a detachable secondary dressing and important wound packing gauze that can even be used stop an arterial hemorrhage (massive hemorrhage) for around the same weight and bulk as the non-t3 (old) style ones. +--- 2567937 +>>2545340 +Bring medical tape so you can tape an ankle or make a splint. Leuko tape works best and can be used to prevent blisters. +--- 2567972 +>>2566517 +>Also been meaning to get some snake bandages but just haven't gotten around to it yet. +Australian, I assume? Pretty sure pressure bandages aren't recommended elsewhere in the world. +--- 2568267 +>>2545402 +This guy is an idiot +--- 2568269 +>>2545417 +It’s one thing to be a larper and bring a trama kit without having anything bandaids. But bringing something to stop serious bleeding while doing any sort of extreme sport is different. Yeah it might not happen and you have never experienced it but this stuff does happen and when it does you will wish you had something besides your shirt +--- 2568292 +>>2549998 +The last time I personally saw an actual firefight was 2019 in Syria. I know Green Berets and Rangers who've killed people in the last year. Combat is more sporadic now, yes, but it still manages to happen occasionally. Unless you're a Marine or something, then you're literally not deploying to do fuck-all. +--- 2568293 +>>2545949 +I carry literally the exact same thing, were you a medic? +--- 2568355 +>>2567972 +Yeup. Honestly not too worried about snakes, my typical camping buddies are herpers, but it's good to always be prepared + +>>2567936 +Cheers mate +--- 2568357 +>>2568269 +Do you bring a satellite phone along with the tourniquet? Because if you have to use it on a limb but you're 50km+ away from any busy roads or phone reception, aren't you pretty much fucked anyway? +--- 2568558 +>>2545333 (OP) +Anyone grow their own medicine? Found a how to guide in this book my mom ordered me for Christmas and I was wondering if anyone’s tried it out before + +https://www.digistore24.com/redir/379127/approved123/ diff --git a/out/2546800.txt b/out/2546800.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5e1da90068cde8c1740dc0dac2575ece132a7deb --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2546800.txt @@ -0,0 +1,360 @@ +----- +--- 2546800 +post your /out/ing from a recent trip. +--- 2546893 +>>2546800 (OP) +Who took your pic? +--- 2546974 +>>2546800 (OP) +--- 2546994 +>>2546800 (OP) +that looks a lot like a logging road in oregon somewhere. +>tfw such a road is at the end of your driveway +--- 2547066 +>>2546893 +my wendigf...obviously. +--- 2547067 +>>2546994 +not Oregon. god i hope Idaho consumes half of Oregon. +--- 2547130 +>>2547067 +You and me both friend. +Grew up in eastern or; and greater Idaho makes so much more sense. Getting governed by Portland jr is preferable to the current situation by far. +Oregon gets worse the farther west you go. +>rural lane county resident.. +Love the state, despise the progressive trash ruining it by the year. +--- 2547159 +>>2546974 +nice +--- 2547167 +>>2547130 +Oregon has always been a story of "you have caught dysentery and died" now its just needle induced. +--- 2547241 +>>2547066 +Wendibased +--- 2547276 +>>2546800 (OP) +I'm gonna go /out/ this weekend so I'll post something then +--- 2547285 +>>2547130 +>Portland jr +is boise really that bad though +--- 2547522 +>>2546974 +do you wear footwear to deal with solid ice on paths +--- 2547609 +>>2547522 +Sometimes. But in this case I skied for a few miles and then bushwacked thru snow and on bison paths to get down to the river +--- 2548146 +Car camping south of Bozeman +--- 2548154 +>>2548146 +--- 2548160 +>>2548146 +where? +--- 2548187 +>>2548160 +South of bozeman. +--- 2548463 +>>2548187 +fuck off +--- 2549290 +>>2548160 +This is near the Lewis and Clark trail in the Sula area. Skied at Lost Trail a couple days as well. +--- 2549305 +Ice climbing pictured rocks national shoreline +--- 2549327 +>>2546800 (OP) +good shit anon, list of the gear? +--- 2549750 +>>2549305 +Ice climbing is so crazy to me. I've heard that almost everyone who tries ice climbing only does it once or twice and then decides it's too nerve wracking. Have you had any gnarly falls? +--- 2549766 +>>2548146 +> south of Bozeman +>in the Sula area. Skied at Lost Trail a couple days as well. +>south of Bozeman +>200 miles to the West +pick one +--- 2549777 +>>2549327 +glowing +--- 2549816 +>>2549766 +I meant Missoula. Always get those confused. +--- 2549830 +>>2549305 +nice. I went over there for ice fest with weird concept salomon boots and it just didnt work out. Thinking of buying a set of proclines since I like dual duty gear/gimmicks. I cant really shell out 600$ for dedicated boots. next year +--- 2549918 +>>2549777 +Retard. + +Am genuinely interested in the jacket etc, the /out/fit looks clean as fuck. +--- 2549919 +>>2548463 +Didn't you get banned for repeated shitposting? +--- 2549943 +>>2547276 +>>2546800 (OP) +Fucking finally got unbanned so here's a general vista of the place +--- 2549944 +>>2549943 +Experimented with a parallel fire lay. It's alright but the fire didn't spread towards the outer edges of the wood so I didn't get the full effect +--- 2550154 +snowshoeing +--- 2550190 +>>2549919 +didnt you? +--- 2550192 +not been out that much lately, just a little walk up the hill in the march snow +--- 2550226 +>>2550192 +Beautiful image. +--- 2550238 +>>2550236 +--- 2550240 +>>2550226 +thanks man, yours too +I am guessing your pic is from thewestern half of north america, perhaps montana or colorado? +--- 2550241 +>>2549305 +Was also just there, super cool. +--- 2550283 +3 nights ice fishing last weekend and 8 hours just skiing today +btw what does cross-country skiing mean where you live, i have heard that in some countries that means skiing in a forest as it is and in some countries that means solely skiing by ready made trails +--- 2550364 +>>2550283 +>i have heard that in some countries that means skiing in a forest as it is and in some countries that means solely skiing by ready made trails + +its both. it means touring by ski...either on groomed trails or ungroomed trails. + +...and that anime bullshit is so fucking gay. +--- 2550378 +>>2550364 +>and that anime bullshit is so fucking gay +thank you for the proper reply anon i learned something today +when it comes to the said anime bullshit i have been laying low for 3 years until that corona outdoors trend dried down but now im back +happy trails +--- 2550384 +I know better than to camp in creek bottoms but did it anyways, it was cold af +--- 2550389 +>>2550385 +--- 2550394 +>>2550385 +--- 2550434 +>>2550384 +Nice way to stay cool in the summer if you can keep the bugs out of your tent +--- 2552215 +>>2550240 +Nevada +--- 2552219 +>>2550389 +Any idea what type those are? +--- 2552229 +>>2552215 +nice. not what comes to mind when I think of nevada, I usually think of desert +--- 2552231 +>>2552229 +There's plenty of that too, man. Not a recent picture, but this is one of my favorite pictures to share. +--- 2552239 +>>2552231 +Yeah I would like to visit a desert one day, the closest I have been is meditteranean scrubland +--- 2552472 +>>2548160 +>>2548463 +>nu-out tries to find a place to shit up +>gets completely stonewalled by people that actually go outside +Keeping nature clean and preserved will never not be a noble thing. +--- 2552901 +It was a pretty weekend. +--- 2552903 +>>2552901 +--- 2553519 +>>2550283 +>bringing anime into the woods. +disgusting. +--- 2553961 +>>2553953 +--- 2554520 +>>2546800 (OP) +Fort Boggy with the Boggy Bros + +tent started leaking so we left, and there was supposed to be a thunderstorm later that night too. +--- 2554581 +>>2554579 +--- 2554582 +>>2554581 +--- 2554583 +>>2554582 +--- 2554584 +>>2554583 +--- 2554585 +>>2554584 +--- 2554587 +>>2554585 +--- 2554588 +>>2554587 +--- 2554592 +>>2554590 +--- 2554595 +>>2552219 + +Compare to: +https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliophorus_psittacinus +--- 2554813 +Last week I went skiing on a frozen lake. +--- 2554946 +>>2554813 +Beautiful photo. I want to live there. +--- 2554973 +Few months ago before it snowed +--- 2554979 +>>2554946 +Thanks. You can, if you want to live in Hurdal, Norway. + +Here's another photo. They had made these little skating tracks. Looked pretty cool. +--- 2554985 +>>2547066 +N Idaho +--- 2555429 +>>2555427 +--- 2555431 +>>2555429 +--- 2555465 +>>2555129 +>>2555132 +>>2555134 +>>2552231 +WAYYYY OUT BY THE OLD KIT CARSON TRAIL +WHERE THE DESERT MEETS THE HILLS~ +Real nice pics Nevadanon. Especially love >>2555132 those cozy little enclosed spots have always been my favorite. Man and with all this snow and rain, the smell of it this spring is gonna be something else. +Glad to see you out there anon +--- 2557343 +>>2546800 (OP) +sup +--- 2558149 +>>2555465 +Thank you, man. Got a good view of Siegel in the background while I was wandering around. I need to figure out where I want to go today. +--- 2559030 +>>2546800 (OP) +--- 2559031 +>>2546800 (OP) +--- 2559151 +Got my first turkey yesterday. Second hunt lol +--- 2559690 +I went out this weekend. Anyone know what this is? I tried iding it just by describing it but have had no luck +--- 2560598 +>>2559690 +That's a mushroom I think +--- 2560863 +what make rock do this +--- 2560883 +>>2560863 +High temperature & high pressure +--- 2562490 +It's always a magical experience when you are walking through the forest and encounter a redwood towering over all the other trees +--- 2562524 +>>2548146 +Go back you califaggot. I swear to God i will hunt you down and kill you +--- 2562844 +>>2554985 +well yes...but no +--- 2563319 +>>2562529 +>crocs +--- 2563346 +>>2563319 +You don't wear crocs? +ngmi +--- 2563402 +New England bros wya. I fucked up my leg on the presi traverse so im out of action for a few months. Literal torture +--- 2564753 +>>2550394 +They look like Pleurotus so why not pick them anon? + +I usually pick them by whacking them with a stick if they are too high up. Nothing beats coming home with mushrooms in early spring / winter. +--- 2565029 +Scorched earth as far as the eye can see +--- 2565033 +>>2565014 +Fuck me, I've got to get out of this side of the country already +--- 2565179 +>>2546800 (OP) +>/out/ing with a gun +insecure much about your tiny penis lol +--- 2565187 +>>2546800 (OP) +--- 2565188 +>>2565179 +lets see yours +--- 2565196 +>>2565188 +i dont own a gun because im not a faggot +--- 2565199 +Tiger stripe hoodies that aren't 1000000% polyester. Do they exist? +--- 2565308 +>>2565196 +OP here. stay strapped or get clapped you absolutely amazingly retarded faggot. i live near bears and am not risking my or my dogs life because i have some notion of what being a man is. you wanna fist fight a bear? go for it dumbass +--- 2565311 +>>2565308 +Stay strapped because mentally unhinged two legged animals are on the trail. +--- 2565314 +>>2549919 +anyone who answers no to this is a newfag +--- 2565317 +>>2565311 +that too anon. +--- 2565318 +>>2565196 +I'll give a (You) +--- 2565517 +>>2547130 +I'm from Portland and I hope greater Idaho happens because even though I'm not right wing at all, I know the Democrats are ruining this beautiful state and I want to be able to go to shoot and hunt in these great lands without some faggy fuckin cop being upset that I have a 30rd mag. +--- 2565590 +I'm in South Carolina for a few days, walked a fire road a bit yesterday and got to see some really neat stuff. +--- 2565591 +>>2565590 +There's fire breaks everywhere, I'm not sure if they do controlled burns or just let it burn naturally in the summer but it was clearly burned recently, even the pitcher plants were burnt to the waterline. This is S. Flava, I assume +--- 2565593 +>>2565591 +--- 2565595 +>>2565593 +Some huge purp clusters +--- 2565596 +>>2565595 +--- 2565597 +>>2565596 +Gonna get a bicycle and go back out today, see if I can't do some herping and find a flytrap +--- 2565725 +Cross country skiing Tuesday April 4th. +--- 2565726 +>>2565725 +And April 8th. +--- 2565737 +>>2565726 +One more from that trip. +--- 2566884 +>>2560863 +asynchronistic crystallization +--- 2567223 +Early Spring White Mountains. +--- 2567358 +getting a bit green out there + +>>2565322 +where was that taken? +--- 2567508 +Skiing in the town park, April 12th. +--- 2567684 +>>2555431 +watch out for ghost ships brah +--- 2567718 +March 17th on Mt Whitney +--- 2568051 +>>2567718 +Holy shit, that's amazing. +--- 2568122 +>>2546800 (OP) +Looks cool i think +--- 2568180 +I saw this log in a tree and was wondering how it got there diff --git a/out/2548304.txt b/out/2548304.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8ed4e314418697d74b5871fa30c5dd6a43ce18a7 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2548304.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1311 @@ +----- +--- 2548304 +/qtddtot/ - Questions that don’t deserve their own thread + +previous: +>>2525947 +--- 2548307 +has anyone here used the MLD circket tarp? im looking for a open tarp like shelter to use above treeline (1200-2500m), im deciding on either a mid style shelter or the MLD cricket since i dont know if an oversized A-frame tarp would be enough +not a big fan of standard tents i think they are too enclosed +--- 2548469 +Is there an oil I can use on a carbon steel blade as well as its leather sheath. No lard or fat--nothing that can go rancid. +--- 2548722 +I just acquired an old GP medium tent. I know some of you all probably have one and I'm missing some parts. I've got all the poles but none of the rope tiedowns. Previous owner said they rotted out and he never got around to replacing them. I was told I could use standard manila rope but I can't find what length or diameter it should be. Half inch and 15-20 feet a line? + +Are the military surplus dog bone rope tensioners worth it? That's what it would have originally had. + +Also, what kind of tent stakes are best for something like this? I was thinking of just getting some rebar and bending it into J shapes and going with that. +--- 2548746 +Is "cotton kills" a meme or not? +Should I throw out my entire wardrobe and replace it by wool? What are some recommended brands? +--- 2548751 +>>2548746 +>Is "cotton kills" a meme or not? +somewhat, cotton holds onto water extremely well so if you sweat a lot and the temperature starts dropping then it could put you in a bad situation, cotton is actually what you want to use in deserts though +for socks darntough are good and they have a lifetime warranty +consider not getting 100% merino baselayers because they will wear fast as opposed to a nylon and merino blend, polyester base layers are cheaper +--- 2548761 +>>2548304 (OP) +perfect. I need experience for the southwest. + +Im planning on visiting the US, precisely CA, NV, AZ and UT. visiting time around end of march. +about 15 days, starting at San Fransisco, ending in Las Vegas because international airports. + +Thats should roughly sum up what I have in mind so far: +- San Fransisco (pier 39, ..., alcatraz ('NP#0'), hotel next to pacific ocean, golden gate bitch) +- Muir Woods National Monument (NP#1) +- Yosemite (NP#2) +- Sequoia National Forest (NP#3, not sure if, probably not because time) +- Death Valley (NP#4) +- Las Vegas +- Hover dam +- Grand canyon (NP#5) +- Barringer meteor crater +- Drive to monument valley +- Drive to Canyonlands (NP#6, not sure if, probably not because time) +- Drive to 4 corners monument and back to Las Vegas (above Grand Canyon through Colorade City) + +I am interested in any suggestions and tips. +I already know about the annual national park pass. +in general, I try to include as many sights as possible in the round trip. +we will travel with car and using hotels. +--- 2548806 +>>2548761 +can provide any info on southern germany in exchange. + +picrelated shows how I think of the 'outward' journey. +--- 2548881 +>>2548304 (OP) +Why do some hikers import their GPX files to Alltrails and other sites for obvious established routes? Doing this makes sense for trailless routes that aren't obvious, but seems like a waste of space for well-marked paths. +--- 2548939 +>>2548304 (OP) +What's a good hardshell backpack for traveling and hiking overseas? I need one (1) big backpack for everything that I don't have to worry about some mongrel cutting open. +--- 2549265 +Roughly how much money would a 5 day, 4 night guided gun cow elk hunt cost? Somewhere in wyoming, near the wind river range +--- 2549352 +if i have two 0C sleeping bags and stacked them together is there a way to estimate what temperature it would be for? one is a synthetic and the other is a down bag also. +--- 2549357 +>>2548761 +Don't skip out on Sequoia! I personally would rather skip on DV (though I must admit, I hate the heat, so I may be a bit biased) over skipping Sequoia and KC, even just driving through and doing quick one or two hour hikes to the famous spots is worth it. Beautiful views! +--- 2549404 +>>2548881 +For dead reckoning. Isn’t that obvious? +--- 2549421 +>>2549357 +mh. +how much time would you estimate for driving into park, visiting general sherman and driving back? +is the seasoning around end of march ok for the park? + +did you visit muir woods? +--- 2549908 +>>2549421 +If you really just hop out at General Sherman, probably one to two hours. Depending on traffic. I was there around September, so no clue about the march. Right now, there's lot's of snow though. + +I haven't been to Muir yet, but the pictures look amazing. But to be honest, you could spend a year in California and not have seen everything, the Parks there are just phenomenal. +--- 2550271 +>>2548469 +why will no one answer this question... I've asked knife makers and distributors and they ghost me instead of answering and the Google is useless on the matter. +--- 2550273 +>>2548881 +because people that navigate using cellphones are retarded. +--- 2550277 +>>2548761 +keep in mind sequoia national park (and kings canyon np) is different than sequoia national forest. also keep in mind some of those places require entrance reservations ahead of time +>>2549352 +I don’t know that it will improve their rating or anything, it will just take longer to get cold. if you are out in weather below their ratings heat will eventually seep out. maybe it will be longer enough that it is effectively rating better +--- 2550281 +GORP + +A general term for trail mix. Possibly an acronym for "Good Old Raisins and Peanuts," though there is much room for debate. +"Hey, pass the gorp! I'm starving over here!" +--- 2550292 +>>2550271 +just use the same oil you use with the sheath if you like to oil it so much +you use youre knife every week and wipe it to jacket sleeve or pant leg after and before use anyways so the question itself is a null +when you come home you dry it out, sharpen it and oil it and then put it back in its sheath + +knife is not something to cherish its is a tool made for a purpose, youre not supposed make love to it youre supposed to use it +--- 2550333 +>>2550277 +>I don’t know that it will improve their rating or anything, it will just take longer to get cold. +dude +what do you think a warmer rated bag is? its just more insulation... if you have two down bags with 600g of down and combine them you will now have a bag with 1200g of down +--- 2550403 +What's a good way to get Febreeze smell out of a padded photo backpack? Stupid Goodwill Febreezes the shit out of everything... +--- 2550550 +How to make friends? More specifically, friends to do /out/ stuff with. I moved to a new city recently and am suddenly realizing that I don't know how to make friends in my 30s. The place I moved has a lot more /out/ opportunities than where I used to live, but I have no idea how to get started with things like climbing/mountaineering. +--- 2550750 +>>2550550 +Join local Facebook groups. Good for finding people to do /out/ shit with, less good for finding actual friends if you're a 4chan autist, most people you'll meet that way will probably be your regular liberal mainstream outdoors types. Hunting/fishing groups and gun shops might be a good bet. + +It sucks trying to make friends later in life, everyone I hang out with I basically met in college and I think that is the same for most adults. Most adults aren't looking for more friends because they feel like they already have a full schedule. (despite the fact that we live in a nation where people are offing themselves left and right due to loneliness, but I digress...) All I can tell you is to identify the types of people you want to meet and become friends with, then go to the types of places those people spend time (both online and physical) and spend time there talking to people, and hope some chemistry happens. Best of luck. +--- 2550789 +>>2550292 +I use it several times a week and don't store it in the sheath. All the other tools that I own with leather sheaths are stainless so this isn't a problem. All the other carbon steel tools I own have canvas sheaths so also not a problem. + +Which oil works for both leather sheath and carbon steel--you also didn't answer the question and your rambling has no relation to how the tool is used which isn't really relevant anyways to the question being asked. + +You've also demonstrated the standard spam when googling the question--some retard gives a non answer and rambles about some totally unrelated retardation tangential to the question. +--- 2550791 +>>2548469 +Linseed oil, I use it for all my tools and my work boots +--- 2550808 +>>2548469 +I think any vegetable or animal based fats have the potential to become rancid but it sort of depends on things like heat and whether or not stabilizers are mixed with the fat. I've used various things like beeswax, mink oil, boiled linseed oil, and beef tallow to condition leather and I've not had any bad experiences. I always use mineral oil to protect steel because it's cheap and available and it works. I'd shy away from using petroleum distillates (other than mineral oil) on a knife blade because I wouldn't want to ingest potentially toxic stuff. +--- 2550863 +>>2550808 +Thanks anon. I was going to try mineral oil for the sheath and blade and from what I understand the drawback is it softens the leather--which I don't care about at all. It's a machete for clearing invasive species on about 30+ acres of forest.and it's mostly game trails. I bought it because it was light and compact but still highly suited for how it is used. It won't ever be used to harvest or cut anything for food--it's for 100% murdering things like brambles and scotchbroom. +--- 2550867 +>>2550791 +...isn't that for wood..? Everything I saw on linseed said don't use it on leather--except some people talk about using it on baseball gloves.. +--- 2551349 +would anyone be interested in a /out/ cooking pastebin? theres only that one shitty picture spammed in most food threads here so i think it would be fun to post our recipes to add to it +--- 2551394 +>>2551349 +I would pay for a camp-cook-book that wasn't total shit. Something that talks about meal dehydration and the shelf stability of packable ingredients. Bonus points if it has seasonal recipes. +--- 2551458 +>>2551349 +Yeah though I wouldn't be able to really contribute anything to it +--- 2551554 +trusted brands for merino wool? Was a city guy but work just took me to the land of nature and I am trying to expand my horizons. +--- 2551621 +>>2549265 +$10k has been the going price for a quality hunt for like 10 years. This will include lodging, food, and meat care (at least quartered and packed on ice). You'll be expected to tip your guide whether or not you're successful; more if you kill a trophy. You'll also be expected to help with the stock animals, field dressing the kill, and camp chores. Bring a nice bottle of bourbon for the guide. +--- 2551682 +>>2551621 +>10k for a meat hunt +yes, that's a budget price for poorfags that think they aren't low cast. hint: you're not upper class and there's not a chance in he'll a land owner in Idaho or Montana will tell you where the big game is. +My family has some of the largest elk and deer records in the world and you won't even come close. +--- 2551775 +>>2548746 +>Should I throw out my entire wardrobe and replace it by wool? +No. I mean if I had a bunch of disposable income then I might, but I still wear plenty of cotton for normal, non-/out/ activities. I do firmly believe that everyone deserves to wear non-cotton socks and underwear though. I'll never go back. +--- 2552310 +>>2551621 +Thanks for the info. My buddy and I would like to give it a shot as a sort of bucket list thing. If we both shot cow elks, what percentage would you tip? 15%? If we get skunked should we tip like 5%? +--- 2552362 +What is the best way to set up a 10x10 or 12x10 tarp for shelter? +--- 2552386 +>>2552362 +I like to put it off the ground a bit so I can be underneath it. +--- 2552517 +>>2548304 (OP) +How do I get over indecision paralysis to actually pick a time and place to go on a hike? Never been innawoods solo before, so I've never had to plan the innawoods trip. + +Also how do I cope with the risk of someone messing with my vehicle while I'm innawoods? Do I just accept that trailheads probably aren't popular homeless or meth head hangout spots, or convince a friend to drop me off at the trailhead? +--- 2552758 +>>2550789 +and now after 4 days i reply to youre troll post yet again +--- 2552865 +>>2552310 +Hell no. $200 for 2 cows is plenty. I'd tip a few hundred if my guide put me on a massive (for the area) bull. More than anything, your guide will respect you if you are quick to help with any chores and follow his instructions when stalking. BTW when I responded to your post I was giving you the price for a bull elk hunt; a cow hunt should be 25% to 50% cheaper. I know a good guide in Oregon who only charges $3000 for a cow hunt but your food and lodging are up to you to figure out. He'll pick you up at 4am at your motel and drive you onto private land to hunt all day. His success rate is excellent. So you should look into that kind of thing if you want to save money. +--- 2552867 +>>2548761 +As a california desert rat, I highly suggest you pack as much water as humanly possible, long sleeves, lots of head cover, sunscreen, understand and recognize the symptoms of heat stroke, drink-that-water. +--- 2552869 +>>2552867 +same poster, watch out for snakes, especially mojave greens. +--- 2552871 +>>2552867 +do you have much experience with high-up arid areas? I'll be headed to Great Basin National park in the next few months. I know to take things slow, stack sun protection, and drink lots of water, but I'm wondering if there are any other things to look out for (aside from altitude). +--- 2552873 +>>2552871 +if you see big horn sheep dont get too close, besides that, wear high top boots, loose rocks will rock your shit if you arent careful, but you should be fine if you take it slow like you said. Have fun, it is a beautiful place. +--- 2552874 +>>2552873 +Thanks anon. I'm planning on getting in just as a new moon hits. I've never seen the night sky unmolested so it should be a trip to remember. +--- 2552920 +When will the rain stop? I want to leave muh tent. It's leeeeeking. +--- 2552928 +>>2552758 +>Asking about knife care is trolling +And just like the last time you posted--zero useful information. +--- 2552940 +>>2548304 (OP) +any north americans gardening north of 58? +im obsessed with far north gardening. but i have no info +every time i see articles or videos about northern gardening it involves greenhouses or other high input methods +i image search northern communities and its all lawns and local trees +i thought it wasnt possible than i read about agafia lykova and her family +they grew rye, peas, potatoes and hemp seeds on the tiaga +they even made their own cloth out of hemp +bizarre that they never learned how to smoke hides though +planning trip to lake athabasca this fall +would like to distribute free seeds in return for free info +very active seed collector, hundreds of varieties +really excited about northern limits of field crops. winter cereals, mustard seed and sugar beets +also herbs and vegetables that can produce seed in a short season +--- 2552946 +>>2548761 +Late, but if you are still here: Weather has been bad in California. You might have significant delays in getting were you want to, even later this month. Roads wash out in flooding, especially in Death Valley(which I think is closed because of this) as of writing, Yosemite is snowed in. Last time I was at Hoover dam, the tours were not operating. Look ahead of time before going. Meteor Crater and Monument Valley are usually accessible as long as no roads are closed. The drive on 89A towards Fredonia and Colorado City is great. Good luck and have fun. +--- 2552948 +>>2552946 +The road you picked through Death Valley is open so it shouldn’t be a problem. Just keep your eye on the entire route and keep weather in mind. +--- 2553141 +>>2550863 +I use mineral oil on a dagger I have plus leather scabbard. It's been six years and no appreciable damage to either, and it keeps the rust off just fine. +Can't speak to active duty knives, all mine are in nylon or kydex. +--- 2553248 +>>2548304 (OP) +Any advice on finding other people to hike with who won't rape and murder me the second we're alone innawoods? +--- 2553251 +>>2548304 (OP) +I remember watching a show on History Channel a few years ago where they are walking on, I believe, British peatland. The guide tells the host not to step in the random creeks because people get sucked under and never re-surface. Does anyone else remember this? And if so can anyone guide me to either the video or some sort of information on if it was peatland or moorland or a quagmire and what the phenomena happening was called? +--- 2553416 +>>2553251 +Sounds like the Bolton Strid. If not, it's probably just generic tidal mud flat shit: get bogged down, get exhausted, suffer exposure, tide comes in, drown. +--- 2553449 +is it possible ans usefull to put hooks on a rope ladder like pic rel. I want to be able to throw it on position above me and make it hook in in order for me to get to elevated positions. Like throwing it on a ast of a tree and the climbing that. or throwing it inside of a window and then climbing that. +--- 2553450 +>>2553449 +with these kind of hooks +--- 2553456 +>>2553416 +Thank you, this was going to bother me until I found it. It is in fact the Bolton Strid. +--- 2553457 +>>2553449 +>>2553450 + +Agreed, you want it to be like a grappling hook. +--- 2553535 +>>2553450 +I might be a retard, but those look thin as fuck. +--- 2553544 +>>2553535 +image from >>2553450 is clearly a largish fishing hook + +you want a grappling hook, not a fish hook + +desu a larger fish hook might even work, those things are strong, but it would be a very bad day if you accidentally hooked yourself or the dog with a fish hook. +--- 2553732 +>>2548304 (OP) +will picrel spontaneously combust if stored in a ziplock bag inside of a dry bag at the bottom of my pack? It says "natural ingredients" but doesn't say anywhere if theres petroleum inside. +--- 2553733 +>>2549352 +Enlightened Equipment has a chart but it's an estimation. You also assume the bags won't compress each other due to weight or fitting inside the other, which will effect the insulation, especially down. + +>>2552362 +Big ole DEPENDS. Pape hiker on the youstubes has a lot of suggestions. A frame covers most, but have a few options for high winds, more 360 protection, and for open field pitching depending on location and equipment. +--- 2553805 +>>2553732 +No. You'll be fine +--- 2553818 +how much weight do you usually carry to your treks? I think I would like to go on like three day long hikes where I walk a lot around rocky countryside, but want to make sure i dont carry too much to ruin my trip. +--- 2553843 +>>2553248 +Bring a gun +--- 2553849 +>>2548761 +When you're in AZ, make sure to take a detour to drive on route 89A from Flagstaff to Sedona through the Coconino National Forest. Most beautiful goddamn drive I have ever been on, I think there are hiking trails you can stop at if you like but I didn't have time to check them out when I was there. +--- 2553871 +Is a sleeping pad for €30 like pic related good enough for a beginner like me? I want to go wildcamping for one night in the weekends. Also, is a 50L backpack big enough for one night camping trips? +--- 2553877 +>>2553871 +Looks like a self-inflating mat, which should keep some/most of the rocks and roots from digging into your vertebrae. 50L is massive for an overnighter unless you're looking at really low temperatures and bring a very bulky sleep system. +--- 2553880 +>>2553871 +50L is plenty for a weekend. i can easily do 3-4 nights out of my 48L bag assuming I can find water somewhere. im not familiar with that brand but im a believer that sleeping pads are one of the items you should not cheap out on. your comfort and warmth are heavily dependent on that pad. closed cell foam pads are the best budget pads you can get, indestructible, light, and have some insulation +--- 2553893 +>>2553877 +>>2553880 +I found a closed cell foam pad for €50 with R-value of 2. Should be good enough, right? When I have all my gear I'll measure the volume in litres needed for my first backpack. +--- 2553904 +Recommendations for a good budget lightweight cold-weather bag? + +I'm trying to get more into /out/ shit, my gear is fine for camping but I tried to hike a few miles with it and it was really heavy. I got a scale and realized most of the problem is my sleeping bag is fuck heavy, it's a Walmart brand one. I'm still a poorfag but I need to upgrade that if I want real backpacking to be possible at all for me. +--- 2553933 +Why are ultra light fags so obsessed with weight? I would understand if you are thru hiking the PCT or something, but every time I meet these retards on the trail or at stores they are obsessed with spending a ton of money on gear that looks like its about to fall apart. Are you that weak of a twink that 4-6 lbs of extra gear makes it too hard to hike for a weekend? For example, my gear for sleeping is: +>tent is 6 lbs 3 0z +>sleeping pad is 40 oz +>sleeping bag is 4lb 4 oz +I also am quite larger than most of the people I see on the trail (6'3 and 265 lbs) and I got a nice big agnes sleep system that actually lets me sleep comfortably with their super wide and big gear. My tent is a 3 person Kelty one so I have room in it for me and my dog as well as girls (female) whenever I convince them to go outside. I guess I just don't see the huge difference in 5lbs of total gear when half these people are cutting their tooth brush handles of and meticulously weighing all their gear. +--- 2553938 +>>2553933 +Like many hobbies (I can confirm cookery, guns and photography) the insidious mind-virus of "improve number" gets its hooks into people. +True nirvana, the banishment of vulnerability, and mastery of the world is behind the next 30g saving/0.2s split time improvement/f-stop/BTU of burner output. +--- 2553940 +>>2553933 +5 pounds of weight saved means I can take a 6 pack of tall boys with me. Or 3 tall boys and my fishing gear. Or no tall boys but my pack isn't as heavy when I lash my bow or rifle to it. +--- 2553943 +>>2553938 +That is fair, I understand the autism of hobbies can creep in regardless of hobby type. Maybe just something about the gram counters gets me. John Muir hiked through mountains in a suit; I certainly get packing in a thought out and smart manner but at a certain point you are missing the whole point of the out doors-enjoying it requires almost nothing as it is our birth right +>>2553940 +Yeah I also get that there has to be a point where if you save weight in X area you have more room for Y but if you are that heavy loaded you have to cut stuff for other superfluous things you probably aren't packing well to begin with +--- 2553952 +>>2553943 +Gear fetishism is - and again this is true in many areas - a hobby all its own adjacent to the main hobby. +I know at least one gun owner who nearly never shoots his guns. I know a few /out/ types who spend at least as long packing as they do on the trip and once they're on the trip they don't unpack or use half the shit they brought. Not that they packed heavy, but they don't need things and actually start to engage with the natural world once they're there. +It's all just natural collect-and-polish behaviour that's been with humanity since the first shiny rock and will be with us until we have complete mastery of matter. +--- 2553958 +>>2553893 +should work just fine down to freezing t. norwegian +if for some reason it isn't enough make a bed of spruce branches and put your roll on top +--- 2554200 +I'm going to be car camping and hiking at the end of the month around sedona, the nights might still dip down to the 30s. I have a shitty tent and a 20 degree sleeping bag, but I want to be toasty. My plan is to fill a couple hot water bottles to put in my sleeping bag (just disposable plastic type) and get some 10 hour hot hands packs. I'll have a few pairs of wool socks, thermal long johns, sweaters, and a beanie. Does this strike you as fine? How many hot hands do I want per night, assuming I'll probably start using them when the sun goes down and hanging around the camp fire (in the wind) till midnight? What's the strategy when using them, just put one down each sock and maybe one under an arm pit? +--- 2554214 +>>2548304 (OP) +I currently work a tech job as a software developer, but I will need to find new work next month when my current project concludes. Are there any techy jobs that would get me out innawoods? Ever since I got out of college I've been wondering if there's a career out there that could mesh my appreciation of the outdoors with my affinity for tech. +--- 2554289 +>>2553904 +teton sports makes budget 3 season bags. Leef i think is the cold one +--- 2554295 +>>2548307 +Yes I have an orange silnylon one. It's a popular choice, along with the trail star, for camping in exposed places. The current version of the cricket does need a longer trekking pole, otherwise you need to use a pole jack which Ron will send with the tent. The silnylon version is more verstile than the DCF version as you can pitch the beak lower. I haven't had the chance to use it much yet but so far the few over nighters I've done with it have impressed me. +>>2548761 +If you go walking around the south west learn what cryptobiotic soil looks like and don't step on it. +>>2548881 +a gpx can be handy even for a trailed route, for example planning distances, checking elevation etc. also all trails and similar sites, iirc, crawl the internet and basically snap up publically available gpx files. +>>2553818 +my gear weighs in at 6-8.5lbs depending on conditions, then add ~2lb per day for food, and ~2lb per liter how water. A three day load out in normalish 3 season conditions where I don't need to carry much water would weigh in at around ~12-15lbs +>>2553933 +>Why are ultra light f*gs so obsessed with weight? +I mean it's in the name, if you weren't obsessed with pack weight they wouldn't be ultralight... for a small light bag is more fun to hike with. There is a massive case of diminishing returns under ~9lbs imo. under that it's less about reducing weight and more about simplfying your gear list. +>>2554214 +I met a guy who was living in his truck. He had solar panels and a star link connection. He works a tech job and was basically just cruising around the place setting up in a campsite for however long and working his normal hours. Seemed pretty cool. +--- 2554312 +>>2554295 +>basically just cruising around the place setting up in a campsite for however long and working his normal hours +Once upon a time I actually considered doing pretty much the same thing, but with a boat. I don't think I have the kind of money saved up to properly outfit a truck/van/boat for that sort of thing at the moment, but it's definitely something I'll consider going forward. +--- 2554334 +>>2554289 +Awesome, this is exactly what I was hoping for. Have you used a lot of Teton gear, is it at least decent quality? Their site has good deals on other stuff besides sleeping bags, anything you recommend or anything I should steer clear of? + +Remember my baseline here is milsurp, thrift store shit and Ozark Trail so even if it's awful compared to most modern brands it might still be a good step up for me +--- 2554346 +>>2554312 +his setup didn't look cheap, but I got the impression his job was well paid. +--- 2554350 +>>2554295 +>>2554312 +I'm painfully fucking jealous of people who can pull that off. That has been my dream for years and I keep running into setbacks and bullshit. 4 years and thousands of dollars went down the drain trying to restore an old motorhome that was ultimately a lost cause. + +>>2554346 +That's the fucking rub. I'm running into the sad reality that everyone who makes this work nowadays has a bunch of money for nice equipment. You can't just pick up some old camper for a few grand, spend a summer fixing it up and then go cruising merrily around the US on a shoestring budget like it was fucking 1972 and I wish to hell I could go back. +--- 2554353 +>>2554350 +He had this particular roof tent thing for his truck which he said he had to wait a good while to get hold of as they are in short supply but high demand. +But desu the most expensive parts of his set up was the equipment to facilitate his digital work, solar panels, batteries, and star link. So if you didn't need that then it would be cheap. But the joy of the digital side is that you are working and living, rather than going on holiday. +On something of a related side note I worked with a guy who lived in a horse drawn wagon in his 20s and most of his 30s. He would travel up and down the UK doing small scale forestry work, using the cart horses to pull out the logs. He said he gave it up as the roads became harder to travel with horses due to more and faster car traffic. Plus attitudes towards him changed quickly. Areas that used to be welcoming, and even keep work aside for him, started to shun him. Eventually he said in some places were actively hostile. It's sad but everything changes, for the better and the worse. He said it took him a long time to get used to living in a house and he would basically spend all his time in his garden. +--- 2554375 +>>2554353 +After I gave up on the motorhome I started a project building a ghetto camper cap for my truck. It's halfway done now, we'll see how it goes. My vision is like the redneck macgyver'd version of this guy. For now I plan to work from coffee shops and public libraries though Starlink might be in the future if I start traveling full time. The other big hurdle is getting my employer to move me to full time remote which has been "next year" for several years now. And my fucking coworkers keep going on vacation or catching the coof so I need to do onsite work to fill in for them. + +Yeah, society is mostly changing for the worse in terms of living on the road for cheap. I feel like travelers are viewed with more suspicion now and police are more likely to hassle you. Modern RVs are made of fucking glue and cardboard and not designed to last at all, because the market is mostly boomers and retards who only use them for a week a year. The age of the wanderer making it day to day and living by his wits and skills is over, now your only practical choice is to jump in the rat race and kiss ass in a corporate hellhole job to earn a bunch of money, leaving you without enough time to really enjoy it anyway. +--- 2554452 +>>2554440 +>its not uncommon to see ultralighters out hiking +This has nothing to do with the argument made by the post you're replying to. Try reading it again. +--- 2554454 +>>2554440 +That's all true but I think that anon was talking about people who take it to a ridiculous extreme. Dropping an extra couple hundred bucks on a high quality, ultralight tent or sleeping bag is sensible for people who can afford to (not me, I'm this anon >>2554334 who was asking about Teton Sports, but for some people). That guy was talking about people who are measuring everything down to the gram and cutting their toothbrush in half, and who are having a dick measuring contest over whose pack is lighter. +--- 2554464 +>>2554460 +That's fine and it's good that they're driving innovation, but in person they still tend to be fucking insufferable pricks who give you the stink eye for not having the latest Gucci equipment +--- 2554503 +>>2548304 (OP) +What are some fun things for toddlers to do while camping? +--- 2554509 +>>2554503 +Raccoons are fun +--- 2554538 +>>2554464 +Are the ultralighters in the room with you now? +--- 2554544 +>>2548746 +its a meme, +COTTON for HOT CONDITIONS, where you NEED to stay cool +WOOL for COLD CONDITIONS, where you NEED to stay WARM even when wet/sweaty, also prevents smells for a couple day to a week(then it turns into a wool bomb of smelly shit you yourself don't notice) +--- 2554552 +>>2550292 +you will have 2 types of oil to use +FOOD GRADE OILS, that don't poison any vegetables, meat, leather/fur, and make breathing in smoke from a fire a bad idea. These will do the intended purpose of so-called knife oils, to prevent rust and to lubricate joints/pivots/etc. + +Then there are the slightly, to very poisonous types. These are bad idea to use for anything you use for food, hunting, and surgery/cutting out ticks, splinters, etc. These are meant to be used for knives you are leaving in a supply cachet, like in a summer/winter home/cabin/bug out den/ emergency stash in your vehicle. These are meant to REALLY prevent rust, even if they get rained on/left in moist area's because the roof/cabinet/tackle box started leaking. Their main purpose is to prevent the knife/axe/tool from turning into rusted pile of rubble and to prevent it from being rusted shut/open and unusable. These you are expected to completely remove, replace with a light coating of something safe for you to use it to cook/clean with. + +Most natural oil based types are safe for the first purpose. Not to drink/slather on your food. Synthetic can be food safe, but will generally have the same effect as antifreeze will on your body. + +If you are the type to constantly oil your knives, guns, and tools. You will generally be safe to use the so-called fat types. Stop oiling everything up. Its meant to be used for tools you DON'T USE for long periods of time and/or wet weather. +--- 2554556 +>>2553805 +>>2553732 +these are just particle board bricks that have petroleum, wax, and/or scentless oils used to hold the finely ground wood particles together + +DON'T store oil soaked RAGS in ANYTHING you don't want spontaneously starting on fire though. THAT is a true thing that occurs. Lots of thorough studies and science behind THAT. + +Just make sure you don't drop a hot, recently used stove/lantern near them and you'll be fine. +--- 2554562 +>>2553952 +the insulated mat, whether its inflatable, gram light, and/or comfortable is kinda a meme if its to keep you warm +just get a collapsible cot, weights almost nothing, doesn't take up space til you deploy it, Takes your ass off the ground, insulates you that way, and works in both hot/cold climates. +solid folding ones are only really usable if you have a permanent place for them because they take so much space up. a small fan for when its hot(folding solar pad to charge/run it during the heat with long cord) and to blow the fire-heat under it during the winter/cold + +tarps are a meme if you aren't in closely wooded area's, otherwise they do make hot temp camping NICE, winter/cold camping you'll be looking to make wind breaks just to not freeze to death +--- 2554709 +>>2554200 +That sounds like absolute overkill to be perfectly honest. Even a poor 20deg bag might be enough with the layers you described, maybe just a nalgene. + +>>2554503 +Camp cooking, firewood sorting, games by the lantern. + +>>2554562 +>Fan +>Cot (insulated???) +>Tarps are a meme + +Ngmi. But seriously cots also need insulation in cool weather. Same issue as hammocks, bottom is exposed to air. +--- 2554766 +>>2548304 (OP) +what is a good flashlight for about $20-$30? preferably one with red light and SOS mode. +--- 2554775 +>>2554766 +Buy a Convoy C8+ from Aliexpress. +--- 2555048 +what does it mean if new hiking shoes bite into toe during descent +--- 2555053 +>>2555048 +Need to be laced better. +--- 2555142 +>>2553805 +>>2554556 +Thanks gang +--- 2555285 +So a lot of outies say that Merino Wool socks are a godsend. I can buy that, but I have a problem with, well, buying them. Almost every pair of socks I haven seen in stores (if it matters, I'm looking in outdoor specialty stores, not Walmart or Costco) that are advertised as Merino Wool are actually some kind of blend. + +A) Do 100% Merino Wool socks exist? +B) If they don't, what is the bare minimum percentage that is acceptable? I've seen socks with as little as 20% Merino Wool, and some as high as 82%. +--- 2555297 +>>2555285 +you will never find 100% merino wool because any decent sock will have spandex and nylon to give a proper fit. 80% merino wool constitutes the entire body of the sock +--- 2555455 +>>2555285 +ime merino on its own is pretty fragile, the blends have all the pros of merino while being much harder wearing. +--- 2555781 +Any reccs for hiking pants for anons with sensory issues ( i favor loose n stretchy/jeans are a no go always). a friend told me about outdoorresearch but the price for their products is a bit steep for my pockets at the moment. +--- 2555784 +>>2555781 +frogot pic. related item. +--- 2555791 +>>2555781 +Running shorts in the summer, Prana stretch Zion if the weather is on the chilly side, long poly/lycra running pant (similar to bicycling pants) for colder weather. I have heavy poly/lycra long running pants that I wear in deep snow, they're warm, comfy, and dry fast. +--- 2555906 +Are there any good bottle to bladder conversation kits out there? Not mainly for PET bottle. I only find this Source on so far. +--- 2555918 +Recommended walkie-talkie? +--- 2555946 +>>2555918 +Baofengs, right? +--- 2556760 +>>2548304 (OP) +we have a problem in our yard, and we need to find out what is getting into an enclosed area, so we want to get a trail cam. + +kind of want a wifi enabled one so we don't have to go out to get data from it, but also don't want to pay out the ass for a cell enabled cam either. would like to have video but it doesnt need to be a priority, just a good image is enough, but seeing what its doing would be a nice extra, and when this is done, probably going to stick it to birdfeeders or where we don't care about will come onto out yard. + +we need decent night performance, and would like decent day performance. I have no idea where to even start looking at these things +--- 2556807 +>>2555285 +50% wool is good. Any more and you will see faster wear. +--- 2556829 +Is there anything toxic or otherwise harmful about wading in dark iron-rich water, aside from maybe staining your clothes? Pic related, where I went today. +--- 2556830 +>>2550867 +People might use it on baseball gloves because it's a little bit sticky. I only use it on wood and metal. Like a pick or shovel, just coat the whole thing. +--- 2556833 +>>2552517 +>Also how do I cope with the risk of someone messing with my vehicle while I'm innawoods? +Depending on the vibe of the place, sometimes I leave it unlocked with nothing valuable inside. Sometimes I leave a note in the window that says I'm hunting nearby... which is sometimes true. +--- 2556843 +>>2556829 +looks more like tannin rich than iron to me, with iron you get those bright orange stains along the edge +either way I wouldn't worry about it +--- 2556845 +Who makes nice full brim hats? Polymer material if possible. +--- 2556849 +>>2552940 +Look up cold frames. Lengthen your growing season by starting seedlings early. +--- 2556851 +>>2553732 +When oils are exposed to air, they begin to polymerize and oxidize and give off heat. Buckets of oily rags catch on fire because oil + high surface area + thermal insulation of other rags around them. +--- 2556852 +>>2553933 +No matter how strong you are, you can go farther and faster with a lighter pack and trekking poles. +--- 2556853 +>>2554503 +Throw rocks in creeks. +--- 2556854 +>>2556760 +Get lithium AAs if it's cold. +--- 2556985 +I'm going to do a three day, two nights hike soon and won't be going to any stores. +I'll be bringing a tent and a sleeping mat. What kind of food should I bring. +I should probably get something to filter water with and scout for a route near water shouldnt I? or is bringing 10l of water a realistic thing. I only ever did one nighters and was able to carry all my shit with me (water included). +Is there anything else I should be aware of? I won't be doing a round trip if that is somehow relevant information. +--- 2557020 +>>2548304 (OP) +is there a way to incorporate weight training into hiking? i'd like to get stronger upper body, but i don't really like gyms, so i was curious if it's possible to get a relatively good physique just by hiking? could I just carry a weighted backpack, and maybe weighted trekking poles and expect results? +--- 2557038 +>>2557020 +Do the gay jogger thing and carry dumbbells in your hands. Honestly hiking is not great if you're trying to gain upper body strength, it will help you tone up a little but you will never get jacked doing it. Your best bet is to stop and do pullups from trees along the way with your backpack on desu +--- 2557039 +>>2556985 +>I should probably get something to filter water with and scout for a route near water shouldnt I? +Yes, that's way better. Bringing 10L of water would be fucking awful, people only do shit like that camping in the desert. + +>what kind of food should I bring +Light weight, calorie dense. Freeze dried meals are a great option, but they're fuck expensive. If you're on a budget, those Knorr brand meals in the green bags are like a dollar apiece, weigh nothing and taste okay. You will need a bunch of them though to keep your calories up for hiking. For breakfast, oatmeal is king. Pasta is good. Nuts and beef jerky are good trail snacks, very calorie dense. I always bring instant coffee as well, yes you can get a good pour over coffee setup for the trail if you're a snob but I'll stick to my shit tasting caffeine mud. +--- 2557058 +>>2556985 +Other anon is correct, the knorr sides and some protein sources like spam, chicken, or fish make pretty good dinners. Depending on your weather, hard cheeses and sausage work well. Some peanut butter. And snacks. Lots of good snacks like the nuts and jerky. Apples and oranges pack well. Layout your food in a per day menu on the floor. Should be hitting your normal active calorie intake plus extra but that's all on the individual to decide. Snacks are good because you can always carry extras to fill in of the hunger hits. Oh and day 1 you can bring pretty much anything. I'll do a sandwich, hardboiled eggs, olives, whatever will last 10 hrs in a pack. Shit if you're building a fire night 1 you can bring a steak and potato. +--- 2557076 +>>2556985 +less sodium spam +--- 2557115 +>>2557039 +>>2557058 +Thx +--- 2557313 +Why are Leathermans so more expensive in Europe than in US? For example, the Wave + is 119.95 USD, but 159.00 EUR. +Is there any simple way to pay for the american price and ship it to this shitty continent? +--- 2557318 +>>2557020 +Buy a solid set of dumbbells to keep at home. So many exercises you can do with just dumbbells. Keep them somewhere available and just pump out some sets when you walk past. You'll learn to like it +--- 2557335 +Planning a proper trip this summer and need the essentials. + +MSR Elixir 1 tent, anyone familiar with it? Is it durable? And how big is the space outside really? It seems small, but it also seems like no alternatives have bigger.. Is it possible to use in winter too? How cold / how windy can it be used in? + +Also looking at MSR XGK EX. Anyone familiar with this stove? I want to be able to cook my food without just burning it. Is it doable to cook the fish I catch? Or do I have to constantly take the pan off or make a stand to keep it high off the stove? +--- 2557442 +>>2557335 +any 1 person tent is going to be small as fuck, just enough room for your sleeping pad and a bit of gear. personally I think MSR is overpriced for what you get. + +the only real difference between a 3 season and 4 season tent is that a 4 season will have minimal mesh on the inner, probably just a couple vents on the top ends and thats it. the tent is just there to keep the wind and moisture away, the actual warmth is your clothing, pad and bag. +--- 2557448 +>>2557442 +Ok, so at non-extreme temperatures like down to -10 celsius let's say, it's probably fine with 3 season? +--- 2557450 +>>2557448 +yes +--- 2557486 +>>2557448 +"4 season" tents are a marketing gimmick and universally suck ass. beginner trap/pitfall. +no single tent is good in all weather. +you want a 3 season tent. +and if you get into winter backpacking you need a dedicated winter tent. winter backpacking requires its own separate gear list and its a lot more expensive to get into. start with 3 season backpacking. +--- 2557487 +>>2557448 +>-10c +3 season tent is fine as long as there is not a large amount of snowfall. otherwise you will need a winter tent designed to support the weight of the snow pack. its less about the temperature and more about how much snow falls. +--- 2557568 +>>2557486 +>>2557487 +Ok, I see. Thanks, lads +--- 2557663 +Anyone wear full grain leather hiking boots like the Danner Mountain Lights or Limmer boots? There’s also the Merrell Wilderness but I read their quality went to shit. Anyone got reccs it’s hard to find much info on this everyone loves they’re fancy synthetic shit + +They’re pretty expensive but not really if you resole them. Not sure if the weight is that big an issue. I started working in the classic redwing Mocs and while brutal to break in they’re so comfy and supportive after a few weeks. +--- 2557667 +>>2548722 +just tie a prussik to any light weight bearing rope. unless you are going larp mode so it has to be what was used you are making this way harder than it needs to be. +--- 2557734 +>>2557350 +Yeah, I think I'll go with a SAK. Thanks! +--- 2557746 +>>2557351 +...so that's what not to use +how about telling us what to use +--- 2557771 +>>2557667 +>Use a prussick on a tent stake tiedown. +no +just..no. +please never ever give advice on knots again +--- 2557777 +>>2556852 +This isn't actually true. +I regularly speed check when walking with zero gear, day-pack and fully packed and the speed difference between day pack and multi day pack is negligible. Ultralight is a meme propagated by woman and weak vegans. +--- 2557877 +>>2557777 +where do you live/hike? somewhere really flat? what sort of hill grades do you normally hike? +your post knee jerks as dumb as hell to me but i live in the mountains. i don't think it matters very much on flat ground either. +--- 2557879 +>>2557663 +danner import boots are bad and danner mitusa boots are overpriced relative to quality. not a fan at all. +if you want a pacific northwest boot look more at jk, whites, nicks, wesco, viberg, etc. the quality jump is massive for not much price increase over danner made in usa. +be aware none of these brands use normal sizing and all have sizing quirks you need to research. they're bespoke made to order. +--- 2557883 +>>2557877 +Trick question; he doesn’t hike at all. +--- 2557894 +>>2557879 +Thanks. I actually have a pair of nicks logger style boots. But I don’t really want such a high boot for hiking. I’ve never seen shorter slightly more lightweight boots from these companies do you know of any? +--- 2558118 +>>2557877 +I'd argue walking speed isn't a good metric. Miles per day median or average and median days on trail per week or something maybe. The weight reduction really shows when you're reaching 25+, 30+ mi days every day for weeks. Less weight is less effort, less energy expenditure, less likely to result in injury. That doesn't show on a weekend hike or mph. +--- 2558134 +Do you think a 23x30in (60x78cm) towel is enough when backpacking ? cutting it in half to this size would save me 100g, I'm wondering if I'd still be able to dry my whole body with it. +--- 2558260 +>>2558134 +Take a shower and try to dry yourself with as little as possible maybe? Unless you're swimming, what's the use beyond wiping your feet or condensation? +--- 2558306 +>>2558260 +that's true desu I dont really need much anyways lol thanks +--- 2558333 +>>2557877 +You're an idiot and asking all the wrong questions. You're also weak if you don't understand that the larger the incline the less there is a speed difference based on weight. +>>2557883 +Its amazing how desperate you are to sound retarded. I love it when you retards go on boards you no nothing about and post the same comments over and over as if you're clever--you're not. +--- 2558334 +>>2558118 +I agree that daily distance matters more than speed but your also talking about endurance. Someone who isn't a weak faggot isn't going to struggle with a few extra pounds. Just because someone isn't "ultralight" doesn't mean they're packing retarded shit that's heavy. +--- 2558347 +>>2558333 +>the less there is a speed difference due to weight. +pure inexperience shown by posting this. +pace on steep terrain and all terrain class 3+ is measured in elevation change and your horizontal distance traveled is irrelevant. +it is the opposite of when you think, the time there is the greatest difference. just use your brain my post is common sense. how fast do you think you are at the climbing wall vs how fast are you with plates on your back? exactly. +--- 2558349 +>>2558334 +>endurance +virtually every endurance athlete is weight concious. have you seen how expensive racing bikes can get? +over 90% of long distance hikers are ultralight and its been that way since the same time the gear became widely available, look at the surveys. the most accomplished outdoorsman alive with multiple world firsts right now in north america is an ultralighter. everyone who climbs knows your weight matters. no offense but i only see these sort of posts from people on 4chan who have never done anything and i always hear the polar opposite opinion from people who provably walk the walk. +--- 2558454 +Southern anons, what's the worst thing about hiking/camping/hunting/bushwacking in the beautiful south? Are chiggers really a thing? +--- 2558511 +>>2558454 +>chiggers +Holy fuck, yes they're real. Imagine having a bunch of extremely itchy scabs on your body that are actually tiny little tunnels those bastards carved in your skin to get at your juicy insides. +--- 2558516 +>>2558511 +Yeghk. So long pants and pyrethrum? +--- 2558640 +Flashlights. +I'm a simple man, a one mode P60 is where it's at for me. +I had a lot of SolarForce hosts, but when I realized they had a cult following I foolishly sold them. +I'm back in the market, any recommendations? My initial research is pointing to Convoy S2+. +--- 2558661 +I've been wanting to go on a pilgrimage of sorts. My idea is to walk E1 from Nordkapp and finish it in black forest Germany. Perhaps continue on. +My question is as follows: how do I prepare? +What if this process is about putting it into hands of gods? The last time I set out to do a 4 day and 4 night no water no food hike to prove something dumb for myself, just as I set out a guy drove up to me and offered water. When I said 'okay' he as if he was sent by the committee of guides spirits or what it be, checked and said that he doesn't have any. Perhaps manifesting what I need for my journey and what I am planing to get out of it for myself is the key as retarded as it may sound +--- 2558662 +>>2558661 +Has anyone had experience in walking lengthier trails? +--- 2558666 +>>2558640 +just get a convoy. there are entire stores on aliexpress dedicated to parts for them. +--- 2558725 +>>2548722 +My friend is in the same situation as you except we have to make new poles as well. You're probably best off with rebar unless you want to buy milsurp tent stakes (big metal ones like for pup tents). You probably want the tensioners as well, you can buy them in bulk for pretty cheap. Or you could try it without them and see if you don't need them. + +Manila rope is all you need, idk the size. Maybe there's a spec sheet for what size was standard with a GP medium. +--- 2558735 +>>2558349 +>Post hoc ergo propter hoc +>Appeal to authority +so, you're retarded, but I'll answer you anyways: +ALL RACERS IN ALL COMPETITIONS are concerned with weight because tenths of a second matter in a race. Those tenths of a second don't matter outside of competition. + +So, to be clear, retard, shaving two pounds off a load will save you 7 minutes in 20 miles--which doesn't matter at all if you aren't racing. +--- 2558737 +>>2558347 +Yes, it's obvious you have no experience. What you said is not only retarded--it's tangential to my point. I've done the comparison of weights at various elevations, which you haven't, and the result is more weight doesn't slow you down much (if you aren't a total limp wristed fag) up to a point. My max weight is much higher than yours so if I were to carry the EXACT weight as you I'd still be noticeably faster on any terrain. +--- 2558740 +>>2558666 +Eventually I'd like around a dozen, but I suppose I don't need to be in an 'all or none' mindset. I'll get one and see how it goes +--- 2559014 +If there a radio general for field operation? It seems like cross between /o/ and /out/. +--- 2559039 +>>2559014 +i know there's a couple other radio/cell techs on here. +>in before baofeng +--- 2559049 +>>2557746 +Neetsfoot oil or beeswax +Less is more +--- 2559051 +>>2558735 +NTA while I mostly agree with your points those minutes saved equate to energy spent ergo energy not spent. But I'm splitting hairs +--- 2559106 +>>2559014 +>>2559039 +Actually you want /diy/ + +>>>2576037 +--- 2559107 +>>2559106 +Fucked it up. Here >>>/diy/2576037 +--- 2559113 +>>2557777 +>speed +Fucking kill yourself retard +--- 2559156 +Why is military surplus clothing mostly Cotton? + +Even winter gear. Is the military fucking retarded? +Are they that fucking cheap? +--- 2559271 +>>2559156 +If your question is "why not wool?" Then the answer is usually contract size. Expense aside, it's unlikely they got bidders who could supply the quantity required within stringent quality conditions. +(Military people may be about to come in and laugh about quality standards but most militaries make it very irritating for the supplier even if they're not efficient at getting good value) +--- 2559273 +>>2559156 +I had a pair of German wool pants from the 1970s that were brand new when I found them in an army surplus store. The quality was such that I'd gladly pay $200 for another pair. But I've worn 60/40 with polypro underneath in the worst weather imaginable and didn't get too cold. Nowadays the US military has clothing for the coldest situations and it's as high speed low drag as anything you'll find in a good mountain gear shop. They don't sell it to surplus wholesalers very often because it costs so much to make. Check out Sportsman's Guide, they occasionally get some decent stuff for cold weather. +--- 2559517 +>>2559107 +It could be /out/ when finding contacts remotely from a car. +--- 2559620 +>>2559517 +Yeah, using a radio is very much an /out/ activity, I'm not saying they don't belong here, just that it would be redundant to have a general thread for them since there's already one on /diy/, and that's where the most knowledgeable hamfags hang out anyway +--- 2559736 +>>2559113 +distance/time is speed +checkmate, retard +--- 2559803 +>>2559049 +Much appreciated. What I can find on Neetsfoot oil is it's great for leather and not, not bad for carbon steel. +--- 2559808 +>>2559156 +Cotton canvas weave is more durable than synthetic. That's all. +--- 2559839 +i need to buy bear spray. should i buy one particular brand or kind or something, or it's all the same? is the cheap aliexpress thing good enough? +--- 2559913 +>>2559839 +>Is this potentially life-saving tool worth saving 10 bucks by buying Chineseisum? +--- 2560016 +Am I going to get autism if I use an aluminium kettle? +All the ones I can find are aluminium because of muh ultralight faggots. +--- 2560066 +>Be me +>Learn how to sharpen knives +>Sharpen all my knives +>Don´t have to sharpen them anymore for a year +>Forget how to sharpen knives +>Have to learn it all over again +--- 2560138 +>>2560016 +No, autism and its closely related mental disease, profound retardism, are genetic. You're safe. +--- 2560148 +>>2560066 +Lansky sharpening system. Freehand stones are for very consistent users (who don't need advice on a Micronesian Fresco website) or posers. +--- 2560152 +>>2559913 +everything is made in china nowadays though, it's a fair question +--- 2560463 +I was linked here from the other board when I asked a question, what do I do next? +--- 2560580 +>>2557039 +>>2557058 +I'll be bringing pic rel now that should last me + +>>2557350 +I'll be able to filter and I've got my route now, so I will filter +--- 2560775 +>>2560580 +>bread +Awful choice. Squishes down in the pack. Try tortillas or pita or something. +>canned food +Not awful but not ideal choice. Cans add unnecessary weight +>oranges +Heavy. Bringing a few is fine to eat on your first day but their weight does not justify their calorie count. +>wafers +I think those are wafers of some sort? Your picture looks like it was taken by someone with Parkinson's disease. But those will be crushed to powder in your pack. + +And the total amount of food is not nearly enough for 3 days of hard exercise. Just scrap your whole menu plan and start over. All your food should be light, tough and calorie dense, you chose the opposite of that. Try some of these: + +>Nuts are top tier. Tons of calories +>Dried meats. Beef jerky, snack sticks, summer sausage +>Oatmeal is also top tier. Can never go wrong with instant oatmeal for on the trail +>Dry beans/rice/pasta. Lightweight things that can be turned into hearty meals by adding some water. Try products like those Knorr sides that add flavor to those things if you aren't much of a camp chef +>Freeze dried meals if you can afford them +>Some candy can be a good idea for a quick energy bump. Not too much of this and avoid candy that will melt in the heat. + +I'm not saying you need to be all high speed low drag ultralight all the time, you can get away with some sub optimal choices if it's what you prefer. The herring filets are fine. But the food you pictured is literally the opposite of what you should do +--- 2560780 +Is there an archive for this board? +--- 2560790 +>>2557039 +>beef jerky +i dont think beef jerky is worth it for the price, if you can find thin summer sausages in like a snack shape form they're usually way cheaper and more calorie dense, often double the calories and half the price +--- 2560791 +>>2560790 +>thin summer sausages +Fuck that, just go whole hog and carry a summer sausage. Pare off pieces with your knife to eat. That's what I do, I prefer beef jerky but I am a poorfag so Great Value summer sausage it is +--- 2560838 +>>2548304 (OP) +want to pick up a bike this spring, havent drove one since elementary. is this a good pick for $600? +--- 2560845 +Shill me a camp cup. +--- 2560865 +What's the best mushroom substrate? I got a mixture of wood chips, straw, and a little compost. Sound good? +--- 2560894 +>>2560775 +>>2560580 + + Looks euro so the bread is probably pretty stiff, really depends on how jammed in there it is but yeah for 3 days you should be up at least near 2000 kcal per day. If that's 1 day thats probably ok or if it's just a sample of the sorts of things you're looking at. +--- 2560901 +I want to backpack this summer but all the permits in the area I want to visit are taken. Can I just show up? What are the chances some ranger actually asks to see my permit? +--- 2560919 +>>2548304 (OP) +Anything cool in Cypress Hills Interprovincial Park? I will be passing through this weekend, and I will have my snowshoes with me. +--- 2560921 +>>2560901 +They will never ever check for a park pass unless you do something retarded that gives them a reason. Just mind your own business and enjoy yourself and you will be fine. + +The only challenge with not having a park pass is sometimes you need one in your windshield if you car in order to park, so that might or might not be a issue depending on the park. +--- 2560922 +>>2560838 +Walk faggot +>>2560901 +I have never checked for a park camping permit, ever, because I just don’t fucking care. I have women co workers who do and at most you will be asked to pay it as long as you play dumb as if you didn’t know there was such a thing. + +t. park ranja +--- 2560927 +any good resources you guys would recommend for listing flora/fauna by city/state? +right now I'm using inaturalist which seems good enough but if theres any better online resources I'd love to hear it. I also don't currently live in the city/state so local interest pamphlets are out. +--- 2560930 +>>2560901 +If you're referring to the Desolation, they will absolutely inspect your bunghole if they see you on the trail, and they're out there. +They are very zealous/ jealous of "their" terrain, for understandable reasons (dumbshit visitors) but they will be rude about it. +They have a thing for lurking in the bushes near your stated destination (required in the permit application) and then skulking up with a combo wheedling yet smarmy tone and demanding ze documentz. Practice saying, "Yahhh mina paperien sind in ordnung" with a sharp heel click. +Protip: visit some less popular wilderness areas that don't charge a fee for the permit, they exist and are far lest traveled, and ranger Dick won't ruin your immersion in the wild with his meddling. +--- 2561004 +>>2560775 +>bread +as >>2560894 already mentioned, in germany bread is very different from the toast you have in the US. its not squishy at all. +>oranges +I like how they taste and they got vitamins. I'll take their weight. +>wafers +yeah they are wafers. In hingsight they were probably not that good an idea. I'll go with thme anyways cuz I've already bought them now. +>>Nuts are top tier. Tons of calories +alright added them +>>Dried meats. Beef jerky, snack sticks, summer sausage +I've got two of those salamis now, +>>Oatmeal is also top tier. Can never go wrong with instant oatmeal for on the trail +I'll go with Pasta instead, they are just as much effort and taste thrice as good. +>>Dry beans/rice/pasta. Lightweight things that can be turned into hearty meals by adding some water. Try products like those Knorr sides that add flavor to those things if you aren't much of a camp chef +^^^^ +>>Freeze dried meals if you can afford them +no +>>Some candy can be a good idea for a quick energy bump. Not too much of this and avoid candy that will melt in the heat. +them wafers and oranges. + +thanks for all the tips, I've integrated them in my meal plan now. + +>>2560894 +ok 2k per day is now in the pic. I'll be going 4 days and that roghly 8.5k going from the values they showed on the packaging. + +thanks for the help +--- 2561031 +>>2561004 +Issue with the bread isn't just being squishy, it's also bulk. By definition bread has air pockets, even if it's not Burgerland bread that is soft and squishy it is still not as tough and compact as something like pita bread or tortillas. And it takes up more space than it should in your pack. + +Other than that good improvements. We only give you shit because we want to help you improve, get the fuck /out/ there and do shit and I hope you have a good time and gain some valuable experience. +--- 2561033 +>>2560865 +What kind of mushrooms are you trying to grow? If you're trying to really intensively grow some mushrooms inside (and I can probably guess what kind of mushrooms you want), then use 2 to 1 vermiculite and brown rice flour. Use a steam bath or pressure cooker to sterilize the substrate before you try to colonize it. Remember that contamination doesn't target your desired mycelium, it targets uncolonized substrate, so keeping everything sterile before adding your spores is important. +--- 2561043 +>>2561033 +Red wine caps, and I'm growing them outside. +--- 2561053 +>>2561043 +Ok, I know nothing about growing mushrooms outside (and now you can probably guess what kind of mushrooms I want). The point I made earlier about the substrate still stands. If I were trying to do an outside grow of any mushrooms, I would start the same way, by sterilizing substrate and colonizing it with mycelium inside. Then, once it was fully colonized, I'd roll the colonized cakes in more substrate, and put them outside lightly covered in mulch or something. That gives your grow a head start even if you're not keeping it in a sterile environment the whole way like I do with my grows. +--- 2561097 +Do you recommend getting a GPS? If so, which one do you guys recommend? +--- 2561100 +>>2561097 +Not unless you need something better than what your phone can do. I got the app GPS Essentials for my phone which gives you coordinates and other specific data +--- 2561110 +>>2561097 +i wouldnt bother with a gps unless you are doing some serious backcountry hiking, or youre wealthy enough to not care about money. the cheap garmins are kind of crap and are basically a digital compass to point you at a destination, the expensive ones are cool but also very expensive. your phone and a power bank is good enough imo +--- 2561146 +>>2561097 +www2 +--- 2561147 +>>2559808 +cotton burns different +--- 2561480 +My arms are pretty long. ~23 in or 59 cm. I'd like a light, packable jacket like the Patagonia Houdini for hiking and running. Which jacket is similar but tailored to lanklets? +--- 2561546 +>>2560152 +>>2559839 +trying one last time, anyone? +--- 2561585 +>>2559736 +No one cares about either of those things. We know you don’t hike so why are you even bothering? +--- 2561624 +Can anyone recommend a good headlamp for night hiking? +--- 2561654 +>>2552867 +thanks, will take it into account. +--- 2561655 +>>2552946 +still here yes. its not this year, next probably. + +how do you think about a timing around now (end of march - april)? +so far that seemed to me to be the best compromise. +>tourism, prices, temperatures, accessibility +--- 2561659 +>>2553849 +found a vid, great thanks. comes on the list +--- 2561660 +>>2554295 +>If you go walking around the south west learn what cryptobiotic soil looks like and don't step on it. +interesting, will remember that. +--- 2561686 +>>2548761 +xander? +https://youtu.be/hFvIZgVSeYU [Embed] +--- 2562478 +>>2561546 +The last can I bought (I think in 2010) was Counter Assault. I never deployed it. Years before that I bought a can from a friend but I can't remember what brand. I sprayed a bunch into a shed and told my brother to quick come look lololol. Shit was cash. Now I just try like a motherfucker to not do stupid shit in griz country. So far so good, but I've got a few decades of experience to guide me. +--- 2562769 +Anyone have experience with the Eureka Jade or Copper Canyon? They come recommended and have good reviews across the board, but they just don't look like they would handle rain well. +--- 2562803 +Anyone know of any good camping near a lighthouse on the East coast? +--- 2562980 +As a complete and utter beginner, it is at all possible to learn wilderness backpacking reasonably through online guides? I'm trying to find immersive paid lessons in my area, but I can't seem to find what I'm looking for. They either cover tangential topics I'm not interested in (i.e. guided kayaking trips), not wilderness backpacking itself, or seem to cover barer basics than I'd like (how to hike?). Or maybe I'm such a greenhorn that I don't understand what I'm looking for. + +Whatever the case, I'd rather not be on local news as the latest urban idiot trying to "get in touch with nature" to die by getting fucked up by an animal, treating water incorrectly, or otherwise inadvertent suicide from incompetence. + +The bottom line is, I have no idea how to get started, or "how to learn". This is a completely new skill to me, and I don't want to fuck it up. The goal is to try to eke out a full weekend solo trip and hike and camp around Killarney Provincial before the season's out. Learning how to bowhunt/fish/gather would be a huge bonus that I want to get started on as well. +--- 2563038 +>>2562980 +>As a complete and utter beginner, it is at all possible to learn wilderness backpacking reasonably through online guides? +yeah absolutely, thing is though most of the knowledge will come from experience anyways and video guides just forms the basis for that, the only course i would recommend you to take is a wilderness first aids course if you are planning long trips where you are far away from help +it seems like most deaths happen due to complete negligence of safety and 0 brain usage anyways +>I have no idea how to get started +consider reading through some andrew skurka blogs, some good ones: +https://andrewskurka.com/five-star-campsites-part-1-introduction/ +https://andrewskurka.com/backpacking-gear-list-template-checklist-3-season/ +https://andrewskurka.com/guyline-tension-system-backpacking-tents-tarps-hammocks/ (more for tarps than tents) +also about learning how to use a compass this video is good but rei video so kind of gay but good knowledge +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cF0ovA3FtY [Embed] +--- 2563054 +>>2562980 +what kind of online guides? +if you mean youtube videos, no not really, you can learn some tricks here or there but whenever you watch that stuff you have to keep in mind 95% of the people on there are weekend warrior types who larp but don't speak from experience. if you don't trust me on that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr2wJTcbJMQ [Embed] this boomer's spot on about it. there's some people out there who are exceptions and do know their shit and also happen to do youtube, DYOR on if they're actually someone worth noting or not. sadly, "survival" is a highly lucrative and trendy "entertainment" category right now... there's a lot of bullshittery to filter through. +if by online guides you mean stuff like pdfs of books and field manuals and shit, by all means, yeah you can learn a ton. +plebbit is a decent online resource. you get a lot of the most knowledgeable people in the world posting on there, but also a lot of retards because its reddit. its good for getting any localized info because its the biggest board. +anon already pointed you to skurka's blog. an example of an extremely knowledgeable redditor who's shit is worth reading. everything in other anon's post is good shit. long trips can also be made way safer by going with a buddy and/or bringing a rescue beacon. always have a loud whistle (storm, acme thunderer, hyperwhistle, fox40, etc) and a small signal mirror (i like the laminated paper kind you can throw in your wallet) +--- 2563057 +cont. +you're in a northern climate so you actually have real seasons and weather and stuff to worry about. gearfagging will matter more to you than the average anon. start with hiking when the weather's good. you don't have grizzlies or anything over there but there's a lot of black bears in your area so you'll want to learn what the "bear muda triangle" is and learn your local etiquitte/laws for what you need to do about bears+food before doing an overnighter. some areas just make you "pct hang" it, some places you need a canister, some places you can get away with a thick bear bag (ursak) and some you won't need anything. +really anon the best way to learn is just go on small trips and build your comfort level, get used to your area, etc. no need to push yourself or anything. you don't actually need classes for anything unless/until you get into specialized stuff like idk mountaineering or climbing or diving or whatever. best teacher for survival's experience and there's one way to start getting it. +--- 2563109 +>>2562980 +Start small. Lurk on gearfag threads and watch youtube videos until you have some idea, do some day hiking to make sure you're physically up to it, then plan a 2 day hike and camp with just a couple mile hike each way--but treat it as if you were on the fucking AT and try to do everything right. Learn from your mistakes, work out the kinks in your gear, get an idea of what physical shape you're in and gradually keep upping the distance and number of nights out. +--- 2563225 +>>2560922 +holy shit I hate women so much it's unreal +--- 2563227 +>>2561146 +they didn't have gps in ww2 dumbass +--- 2563329 +>>2563038 +>>2563054 +>>2563109 + +These are fantastic suggestions. Thanks so much for the detailed advice. Excited to get rolling. +--- 2563438 +This is probably a better place to ask this question: +Can I use cheap asics on multiday trails this summer? I carry about 30 pounds and its mostly forest trails, agriculture roads, some paved roads, there are multiple trails between 60 and 140 miles I want to walk. +What would be the downsides? +--- 2563447 +>>2562980 +Learn by doing short hikes during summer. Start small. You can't really learn much from other's experiences posted online unless you have your own experience to compare to. You will only end up spending money on things you don't need. Don't buy anything unless you know from experience that you need it. +--- 2563448 +>>2563438 +yes you can just fine. +when modern athletic shoes with rubber soles first hit the open market after world war 2 they pretty much replaced mountaineering and rock climbing footwear for a few decades. +the main downsides: +casual athletic type sneakers will have a cheaper outsole compound, just means less grip on wet algae covered rocks and stuff like that, but still suitable. +the outsole won't have an /out/ oriented lug pattern or depth so they'll slip more than a proper trail shoe in mud. but again they'll still be fine. +you probably size your running shoes pretty close to your brannock measurement true to size. hiking shoes you do want sized a little big because long distances downhill after your feet have swollen a bit from hiking in a tts fitted shoe can fuck your toes up from bumping against the toe of the shoe on extended declines 'black toes' and lead to some toenail condition i forgot the name of. +and they'll have no rock plates but its becoming popular and trendy to sell trailrunners without them anyways. +the 2 biggest reasons i'd say to even have dedicated shoes for (disclaimer: more casual) hiking purposes are: +- wanting a different size than your normal shoes +- not wanting to fuck your city shoes up, dedicated beater +--- 2563450 +for a bit of evidence i'm too lazy to dig up their profiles but there's several people who have done PCT in $15 wal mart/costco athletic shoes the entire way, there's an anon on here who thru hikes in sandals, i'm actually thinking about doing the same because he was really convincing, and there's also a guy on reddit who did pct except the sierras and at in wal*mart fake crocs. +shoes constructed like converse and vans used to un ironically be good rock climbing shoes not even too long ago. +--- 2563462 +>>2563448 +>>2563450 +Interesting. I have ultra-light trailrunners already. But they were kinda expensive (altra lone peak) and I only use them for running trails a few times a week. I don't want to take those hiking because they are too soft and wobly with a pack. + +Would you take something like a solid running shoe (I had this Nike ten years ago) or a more solid hiking shoe like a Merrell Moab? +--- 2563466 +>>2563462 +i personally do my day hiking in $20 running shoes or trail running shoes from costco. walmart's even better but i don't have one around me. +for the sole purpose of not wearing out expensive footwear on hikes i don't need anything remotely approaching it on. +works gr8 for me. i see no problem with either way you go. +--- 2563473 +>>2563466 +Makes sense. I try to do that too for daily walks but in this case I will be going for extended weekends 4 to 5 days a few times this summer. Do you still take cheap shoes for that? +--- 2563491 +Can anyone redpill me on traditional leather boots and recommend how I can get some for cheap? + +I'm fed up with buying new boots every year. I'm willing to compromise on the qualities that make modern boots so good like light weight and shock absorption in exchange for some fucking longevity. Also I really like the idea of being able to repair your own boots by re-stitching leather, replacing soles and shit to keep them going for years and years, the self sufficiency thing really appeals to me. But most boots constructed like that that I can find are steel toe or way too heavy for hiking. + +Should I buy into the meme and just buy surplus army boots like pic related? I want to save money and I don't mind having to do some work on them when I buy them, it would be cool to learn the skill anyway. I still want them to be as light weight and hiking friendly as possible as long as they are simple construction and leather. +--- 2563554 +How do I get an out related job with no relevant experience? I don't care if it's shitty (I know it will be) +--- 2563633 +>>2563447 +Noted. Thanks for your input! +--- 2563712 +What are these purple weeds/flowers? They recently appeared a year or two ago on my hill. +--- 2563713 +>>2563712 +I think this is a new freshly grown batch. +--- 2563718 +>>2555906 +Hardside hydration has a product called the swig rig, it is compatible with nalgene bottles. Pic rel +--- 2563719 +>>2563554 +learn spanish +--- 2563722 +>>2563491 +the feature you're looking for is a full leather midsole. +> to keep them going for years and years, the self sufficiency thing really appeals to me. +all boots are consumable items. with a resoleable boot you're not actually keeping the boot for years and years, only the upper half of the boot, the other half of the boot gets replaced at about the same frequency modern hiking boots wear out. so to set realistic expectations, the difference is you keep half the boot for about 3 to 6 resoles on average depending on the construction type and quality of the boot, before the entire thing eventually wears out. the leather flanges on the upper that have to be sewn to resole a boot are the limiting factor to the lifespan of the entire boot no matter how nice you keep the condition of the rest of the upper. each resole disintegrates it gradually, its not a whole lot of material. there's some ways to make a boot resoleable more times but it comes with compromises and you don't see it commonly. +for the above reasons my redpill you can take or leave is that polyurethane non resoleable boots are the best compromise. +they last anywhere from 1000-2000 miles. so at the worst they last longer than a full leather old school boot would before it needs a resole and at best about twice as long, which is conveniently about the same amount of miles as the upper lengths of most long distance hikes people do. meaning you can do basically any thru hike or multiple section hikes with a single pair. +they're infinitely less +>I'm willing to compromise on the qualities that make modern boots so good +this, and your boots will weigh half as much, these aren't small compromises. but they last up to 4x as long as eva foam boots without a HUGE hit to comfort compared to them. +if you do want all leather boots: +workwear/logging and milsurp, that kind of boot isn't considered a hiking boot anymore. +--- 2563723 +Is it worth putting weed mat at the bottom of my raised garden beds? +--- 2563827 +>>2563722 +>you keep half the boot for 3 to 6 resoles +As a poorfag with a prepping/survivalism fetish that sounds like a good deal to me. Remember that money is a big reason I am doing this, I assume the materials required to do a resole are pretty cheap relative to the cost of new boots? Assuming I can do the work myself which seems like a fun skill to learn desu. And as for the weight I can always switch to trail runners if I'm going on a very long hike, this would be more for general /out/survival shit and woods larping than serious high speed low drag backpacking. + +If I am going to go the leather route any tips on what to look for and what to avoid? It sounds like milsurp is my best bet, work boots always have steel toes nowadays and the military at least has some incentive to make boots that are light and good for hiking. The /k/ meme Austrian paratrooper boots are a little out of my budget for now but maybe I can find something similar. + +>polyurethane non resoleable boots are the best compromise +Never heard of that, isn't that what they make rain and muck boots out of? Can you give me an example of what kind of polyurethane hiking boots you're talking about? +--- 2563837 +>>2563719 +So landscaping +--- 2563850 +>>2563827 +>Assuming I can do the work myself +JFC anon this is obviously not going to be worth your time. Just buy surplus boots and be done with it. +--- 2563865 +>>2563850 +But I'm an autistic /diy/ fag and I take a lot of pleasure from accumulating random skills. I watched some people re-soling old boots on Youtube and it didn't look that hard to do as long as you buy all the right types of glue and that cork paste shit you use to go between the sole and the bottom layer of leather. + +Besides, that would make the difference between whether this was a smart decision to make. If I'm going to burn through the milsurp boots just as fast as regular hiking boots then there's no point +--- 2563932 +>>2563865 +In general you won't burn through soles any faster or slower with any option, and while replacing JUST the soles is cheaper, it comes with the ancillary costs of buying a high quality leather upper and learning to cobble shoes. +The free market has given you an opportunity here. Take it, I implore you. +--- 2563987 +>>2563723 +Depends on what's underneath it and how deep your soil is. Usually it's a waste of money. +--- 2563989 +>>2563712 +Purple dead nettles. They're in the mint family and used for folk medicines or a snack. +>>2563713 +The flowers are Grape Hyacinth. +--- 2564186 +>>2563989 +>Purple dead nettles. They're in the mint family and used for folk medicines or a snack. +I thought so, this is eastern Pennsylvania right near Philadelphia. I saw these pop up as the grass and other stuff has started to grow and I was rendering some tallow that I was considering turning into a candle. From what I read earlier this doesn't exactly emit a scent so that idea is scrubbed. I'm considering yanking a bunch of this up and tossing them into the field behind my house for the bees to have some interesting stuff to work on in a few years. +--- 2564216 +Figured you guys would know better than /fa/ or some other place. +What jacket reccs do you have for spending a few hours in 25-60 degree weather? I'm gonna be walking around the woods, construction sites or other places where snagging is pretty likely, and it'll be windy most times. I don't want it to seem giga tryhard though cause I'll have to show up at my (very casually dressed) office. +--- 2564238 +>>2548806 +make a thread +--- 2564265 +>>2564216 +To be desu, I just layer with whatever base layer top is handily laying on the floor, a tee shirt over that, a cheap fleece jacket (also from somewhere in the house but never hanging in the closet) and and old and leaky North Face gortex parka. +--- 2564273 +>>2564216 +I agree with >>2564265, fleece liners are a fucking godsend. Pair a fleece liner with a jacket of harder material, denim or leather are good choices for construction sites and weight shouldn't be an issue for that use case. Plus that way when it's a 60 degree day you can ditch the fleece so you don't overheat. + +Gore-Tex is also a good choice though personally I'm more comfortable with denim or leather when I know I will be abusing it on a job site, I usually buy secondhand so I don't feel bad about destroying them +--- 2564287 +>>2548304 (OP) +Is the xmid a good tent or is it just a reddit meme tent? + +Need a tent for backpacking, and it seems to be a good price/weight ratio with no major drawbacks. It's hard finding out about gear when everything online is SEO ad spam these days. +--- 2564301 +>>2564287 +It is a good tent, you'll be fine. Obligatory 'trekking pole tent' note, youd need poles, good stakes, appropriate terrain, and familiarity with pitching what is essentially a sharped tarp. Hit the field and practice. +--- 2564337 +>>2564301 +Thanks. Bought the 1p since I only ever plan on going on weekend trips. + +I’ll practice in my backyard a few times so I don’t embarrass myself +--- 2564339 +I paid $155 Canadian dollars for dachstein wool gloves only to be extremely disappointed. I wore them outside in -20c (-4f) and the cold went RIGHT through them. + +So what should I replace them with? What’s the warmest glove you’ve ever worn? +--- 2564341 +>>2564339 +If you're out in -20c you should have some Black Daimond Goretex gloves or equivalant. +--- 2564345 +>>2564287 +just get a cloudup 2. trekking pole tents fucking suck dick +--- 2564350 +>>2564339 +Wool is not windproof. You need shellgloves that go over the wool. Over beaverfur gloves if you want to go natural down to -30F/C. +--- 2564997 +I have severe arachniphobia. Whenever I sleep, I am paranoid there are spiders that will crawl into my hammock. +How do I calm the paranoia? +--- 2565046 +>>2564997 +a bug net, acceptance +--- 2565057 +>>2564997 +you will never get over a fear until you confront it head on, simple as that. go find a spider and become comfortable in its presence +--- 2565099 +>>2548304 (OP) +Can i burn wood in my gas fireplace? +--- 2565101 +>>2564216 +a polartec 100/200 weight or grid or high pile fleece, maybe one warm one less warm one since theyre $20 and thats such a big range. +then whatever shell over top to handle the wind and abrasion. +fleece is what you want for this but it doesn't protect you from wind. you can get a basic one for like $10-20 and maybe like $100 tops for the super fancy kind with a hood armpit zips etc. milsurp ecwcs high pile ones are a good cheapo warm one. +--- 2565117 +i'm scared of going /out/ +what if i forget to bring something? what if i carry too much shit? what if i run out of water or fall down a ditch? + +how to cope with /out/ related anxiety? i'm not very social so groups are out of the question +--- 2565130 +>>2548304 (OP) +how do hermits manage to survive in the wilderness alone for years? +--- 2565141 +>>2565117 +>what if i forget to bring something +i used to forget things a lot and i like to wake up very early for trips. now i keep all my gear at home in organizer bins and then organized within them by stuff sack. i don't use the stuff sacks when i'm on my trips, i just empty them out in the backpack, they're just to organize at home. i pack my bag the day before when i'm wide awake. anything that doesn't go in the pack like phone keys etc i write down on a list for the morning of. +>what if i carry too much shit? what if i run out of water or fall down a ditch? +start off with easier hikes where these things won't matter till you build enough knowledge and experience where those things won't matter/happen. +too much shit? experience to help you plan better next time. +water? start learning how to find and identify water sources in your area. filter some of your own water on a dayhike. get used to looking for it slash planning where potential water sources are when you're doing your trip planning at home before. then you'll have a sense for it when it matters. +fall down a ditch? i can get hit by a car any time i cross the street too. shrug. +--- 2565158 +>>2557335 +XGK EX is a snow melting, water boiling stove only. Its plastic pump feels like junk too. I had one. + +Look at Primus Optifuel or Optimus Polaris. My Optimus replaced my XGK. It’s a little heavier, but I like it better all round. +--- 2565190 +>>2565130 +they dont, its a larp. +--- 2565194 +>>2565158 +I bought an XGK EX, it ended up being the cheapest out of everything because there was a discount. I'll try it out and see how it goes. If nothing else I can make soup.. But I can often use campfires to cook on too +--- 2565202 +>>2555285 +>>2555297 +What do you use to wash your merino wool? I have Grangers but it's expensive and only seems to be available on Amazon. +--- 2565215 +>>2565202 +i just throw it in the washing machine with all my other clothes +--- 2565299 +>>2558454 +Bugs suck. The humidity is also killer in the summer. +--- 2565303 +>>2558454 +Chiggers, ticks, scabies, poison ivy/oak/sumac, you name it. +--- 2565310 +Do you prefer using a water bladder or a bottle? I've always just used a nalgene for day hikes but the bladders seem neat, not sure what brands are good though. +--- 2565316 +>>2565310 +bottles all day. +--- 2565320 +>>2565202 +dr bronners unscented soap (just the normal kind, or anything like it) or some woolite extra dark. i hand wash all my wool in a bucket for longevity but cold+no spin cycle is fine too. +these instructions are fine for all wools not just merino. +99.5% of merino wool can be washed like your normal clothes with no special care. they strip the lanolin out of the wool and coat it with a resin when the textile is produced to make it machine washable. no special care needed unlike other wools. but i would avoid the spin cycle like any other delicate item. +>>2565310 +i used to, but now i use bottles with those modified caps that let you use a whip hose with them. +smartwater/dasani most of the time, nalgene in the winter. +buuuut i still like bladders when i'm day hiking or when i'm somewhere like a desert carrying high volumes. i use platypus ones. being easy to fill and clean are the features you want to look for. you might also want to plan around being able to hang your bladder in a tree so you can gravity filter. its convenient as fuck and if you make a diy kit it can be only a few grams. +--- 2565582 +I kinda want to try the toe shoe meme, but I don't know the difference between all these models. Which kind should I get? I'm not a runner, it would be for day hiking and light backpacking in the woods, lots of granite and hills in my area +--- 2565583 +>>2565582 +forgot pic +--- 2565598 +suggestions for rough, durable yet flexible /out/ pants? +--- 2565601 +>>2565598 +they don't exist anymore because they are not as profitable. People want pants that break after a year. +--- 2565632 +>>2565598 +chinos +--- 2565692 +Can someone recommend/link me a camping pot with the following attributes: +>less than 3lbs +>about 1.2 liters and 8in diameter (wide enough to cook in, but deep enough to boil water) +>has a lip/spout +>has an attached lid that snaps into position (whether open or closed) +>has a folding side handle (to hold it like a pan) +>has top handle (to hang it over fire) +I would have thought that all of this was pretty much common sense, but I can’t seem to find any one pot that has it all. The closest I’ve found is my image, but the lip on that is welded on, which is not ideal, I’d rather the whole pot just be one piece, and the lid is not attached to the pot, it’s loose. +--- 2565757 +Does anyone know how to get black needlerush out of the skin easily? +--- 2565961 +I'm running out of places to dump oil in my yard. Is it cool if I dump it down the storm drain? +--- 2565995 +>>2565961 +This is bait. +--- 2566001 +>>2565961 +I just dump mine next to the neighbors property line +--- 2566039 +should i hike with my desert combat boots or running shoes? +--- 2566064 +>>2566039 +Where? +--- 2566105 +>>2565757 +forceps, small +$5 at any fly fishing shop or online +the most useful tool you never knew you needed +--- 2566184 +I want to go hiking this weekend, but I haven't been /out/ since last fall. Have there been any new developments I need to be aware of? +Thanks +--- 2566197 +>>2566184 +Water's been nerfed since the last update. The minimum per diem is now twenty litres. +--- 2566226 +>>2566064 +utah/colorado in may. im from ontario and i've really only done fair weather stuff so its was fine with any shoes if i wasn't going too far. i will only be doing day hikes, but i still don't want to overpack +--- 2566464 +>>2566226 +It was 80 degrees in the lower elevations in southern Utah today, and it'll hit the 90s in early May. Conversely, the snow in the higher elevations in northern Utah and Colorado will still be five feet deep in May. There's a lot of in between so pack for elevation and terrain. +--- 2566614 +Why aren´t high power laser pointers used for emergency signalling? +They are smaller than most flashlights, and you can start fires with them, and theoretically blind animals too. + +Don´t they make a great emergency tool? +--- 2566955 +>>2566614 +>Please help me search and rescue +>blinds the pilot +--- 2567035 +>>2566955 +>blinds the pilot +Ok, let me rephrase it then. +Do they make a great emergency too, unless you´re a complete fucking retard? +--- 2567788 +>>2566614 +>Emergency signalling +Requires specific atmospherics to be visible and useful, causes eye hazard to rescuers +>Smaller than most flashlights +Fuck off with your gay vagina feet copypasta +>Start fires with them +It's got to be "rub a stick on some doritos" tier fire tech desu +>theoretically blind animals +Theoretically chew on my ballsnot +--- 2567831 +>>2566955 +>>2567788 +This board is fucking dead, holy shit. +--- 2567843 +>>2567831 +Post stupid question, get brutally direct wisdom. +--- 2567863 +>>2566614 +>emergency signaling +Yeah, if there's fog or rain to create a light beam. Other than that it's useless, if you do manage to flash a plane with it (doubtful you could aim it that well), they'll just see a bright momentary blink, think "fucking kids" and fly on. +>you can start fires with them +You can start fires with a lighter or hurricane matches +>fend off animals +You can use bear spray, a stick, or a gun + +It's not good enough at any of those use cases to justify carrying it. Besides, high power lasers use a lot of power, so you either have a fuck heavy one, or you have like 2 minutes of battery. Either way it is not worth carrying. I see why you would think that initially, but really if you had a signal mirror, a Bic lighter and a Ruger LCP, you'd have all that functionality you mentioned, 10x better than a laser could do it, lasting for way more uses, and probably weighing less. +--- 2568133 +>>2566197 +Thanks, you were right +Totally unbalanced now bullshit +--- 2568195 +Does anyone know if there's a way to read or download the Backpacking Light articles for free ? The membership is quite expensive. +--- 2568540 +best place to buy piolets online? diff --git a/out/2548328.txt b/out/2548328.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..84cd54a9f555e119b5bcd370753a43ae8c304d6d --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2548328.txt @@ -0,0 +1,842 @@ +----- +--- 2548328 +Any anons /homeless/ here? + +Graduating uni soon and I'm thinking of living out of a 4runner for a little bit to save money while I work a full-time job (Taking as much OT as possible). Rents are just too high and RE is too expensive. Thinking of picking Washington as there is no income tax and COL is high, meaning wages must also be high. I could also kit out a trailer into a nice little office, which I can store in a storage unit during the week. Every weekend, I could take the trailer out and go innawoods. +--- 2548329 +>>2548328 (OP) +I plan to get a remote job when I finish my current degree and just live out of a van. +--- 2548330 +>>2548329 +Why not get a pickup truck w/ a camper? Less stealthy, but who cares. +--- 2548335 +>>2548330 +Idk I just like the idea of a van. +--- 2548355 +>>2548328 (OP) +Jackson, Wyoming is pretty accepting of this culture. Streets are filled with Van Dwellers and plenty of dispersed camping areas. Pretty easy to make 6 figures working in a restaurant too. +--- 2548359 +>>2548328 (OP) +We should only have to live in cars for a little longer. The RE market is about to get hit with a major shake-up, which will hopefully make housing affordable. The trick will be to swoop in and get yourself a home before Blackrock and other speculators snap them all up. +--- 2548363 +homelessness isn't /out/ related, i hope you drug addicted faggots get stabbed in the street +--- 2548385 +>>2548328 (OP) +>Thinking of picking Washington +Please don't come here. I hate you mother fuckers, and I say this as an RV dweller who pays lot rent wherever I go. Finding a space to rent with hookups and usually internet can be done in most states for around 450 a month if you're fine living in the sticks. +--- 2548398 +>>2548355 +I'm getting a STEM degree, so I should be able to make $70k+/yr starting. +--- 2548407 +>>2548398 +That's what you think. +The market is saturated. +--- 2548419 +>>2548407 +No, he's right. He will start at $70,000/y. +His rent will cost him $24,000 per year. +His car will probably cost him another $6,000 a year between the loan, the maintenance (he won't do it himself) and the insurance. + +He is now down to $40,000 per year, for just his apartment and his car. +Before taxes. + +And don't forget that he won't be promoted. He's going to be stuck at that $70,000/y for awhile. +--- 2548424 +>>2548419 +You forgot my taxes, student loans, and onlyfans sub. +--- 2548440 +If you see a van with out of state plates and someone living inside it, do the world on favor and set them on fire. +--- 2548447 +>>2548440 +Kek someone did this to a homeless guy that was living in his car in a grocery store parking lot near me. +--- 2548450 +>>2548447 + +what kind of car? +--- 2548464 +>>2548450 +It was a green imported shitbox. It was completely torched by the time they were done with it. The guy disappeared after that. +--- 2548493 +>>2548328 (OP) +I lived out of an rv for a couple years. Its a pain unless it can coexist with your work; and even then its kind of a catch 22 because you have to stay local for work. House is way better. +--- 2548502 +>>2548335 +I encourage other anon’s idea of a truck w/camper shell. Tacoma with a shell can take you anywhere, overlanding even, lasts forever, and you can seperate your driving/sleeping space. More cargo potential when you pull a trailer too. +--- 2548517 +>>2548447 +based, I'm about to have to do it to some homeless faggot that keeps his car at a local park smoking weed and drinking all day. my sister won't let me take my niece and nephew there now because it reeks of weed and booze. +--- 2548519 +>>2548440 +>out of state plates +Why be so picky. Van-homeless are a scourge regardless, shitting up nice rural areas because they can’t function as normal human beings. +--- 2548537 +>>2548355 +>make 6 figures working in a restaurant +--- 2548540 +>>2548537 +>"Yeah anon it is not hard to make $9,999.00 waiting tables in Wyoming. Easy six figures" +>"What do you mean 'cents don't count'?" +--- 2548552 +>>2548328 (OP) +Do it, rents a scam. Washington is great for it, tons of national forests & great job opportunities. Bellevue/Seattle is like a hour away from national forests. As a software engineer working remote, I can save 95% of my paychecks while living a great lifestyle. + +>>2548330 +I ran this set up for a while with a truck canopy w/ camping setup in the back. Worked good until mold. Will rebuild it once the rain stops & I can properly seal everything. +--- 2548613 +Don't get killed by some random nigger anon that would be a huge disgrace by the way good luck +--- 2548617 +>>2548385 +That 450 probably doesn't include electric. + +Don't try truck/van living unless you're content with having nearly nothing and very little to work with. It's probably only an upgrade to people living on the cold streets. +--- 2548627 +>>2548617 +>That 450 probably doesn't include electric. +You can get water and electric included in a lot places if you're ok with living in the sticks or having a some white trash neighbors. As long as you don't run a space heater you shouldn't spend much in electricity +--- 2548639 +>>2548552 +I'm on the fence between getting truck w/ a camper or any towing-capable vehicle + a trailer that I convert into a living space. I bet I could reach out to locals in the area who would like to earn a little extra money every month to allow me to park my set up on their property, this would eliminate the need for such a compact build and stress of finding a place to sleep. +--- 2548789 +>>2548328 (OP) +Suuuup +--- 2548804 +>>2548328 (OP) +I have no pity for people who live like this in America. Holy fuck, move someplace you can afford to live. And when you do, adjust your voting habits accordingly. +--- 2548817 +>>2548804 +You mean vote liberal? +--- 2548833 +>>2548817 +>vote for the people who fucked up your home state +I expect nothing less. +--- 2548854 +>>2548833 +I thought California was a paradise tho +--- 2548864 +>>2548854 +Yeah it's a Hellraiser type of paradise +--- 2548871 +>>2548363 +>homelessness isn't /out/ related +yes it is lol, go cry somewhere else, or make yet another thread about gay plastic tents or backpacks or whatever shit you goy consoomers are gonna buy next. Fucking cringe. +Imagine being such a loser that even homeless people are cooler than you. Fuck your life nigger lmao +--- 2548892 +>>2548854 +It is paradise, arguably the best state in the nation for all outdoors recreational activities. Unfortunately it has been utterly and completely ruined by the people who live there. Further, now that they have ruined their home state they flee to other states, behave the same way, and ruin them too. +>tfw saw a car with cali plates with a Beto (for Gov) sticker in it +--- 2548907 +>>2548328 (OP) +Fuckin go for it. +Been living out of a medium-sized van for about 3 months. I started for the same reason as you; rent too high. +I have enjoyed it quite a bit, and it has allowed me to travel cheaply. It has some downsides that need to be managed. + +The main one is food. Unless you have a freezer in your van, running off you battery, you probably don't have a way to store real food longterm. I won't eat ze bugs nor the hydrogenated seed slop. I got around this by storing a freezer of meat where I work and converting the lion's share of my diet to coffee made with powdered milk, freeze-dried coffee, and sugar. This food has sustained me, and even allowed me to gain lean muscle while I bulk, however, it's not a rich diet. It's critical that you know what vitamins you need and supplement them. For me, some raw liver once a month and a few other niche vitamins covers my basis. + +You've probably already heard it, but get an Anytime Fitness membership. Mine is 40$ a month and I have access to a shower, a toilet, a place to park, and a gym that I use regularly. Every major city has at least one. + +Get something that is easy to obscure the insides. You're not always going to have a campsite nearby. Sometimes it's late and you need to park somewhere in the city. If no one can see inside the van, then they will just assume it's parked overnight like all the other cars. I have slept in random parking lots for 3 months and have yet to have anyone give me trouble. All of my windows haver coverings so when you look at it fro the exterior it just looks like there are super dark. + +I can't imagine doing this without a remote job. It's possible, but being anchored to one spot kind of defeats the purpose. That said, you gotta do what you gotta do. + +Good luck anon. Van life is what you make of it. (Ignore the influencers, you can convert a van for cheap if you not a spoiled ass white girl) +--- 2548912 +>>2548892 +>there were californians on the phone near me in the parking lot telling their california friends to come here + +I say when civil war 2 hits we all go for californians first and then fight it out after +--- 2548919 +>>2548907 +This. Also did this in silicone valley for 2 years before moving to Hawaii. Saved a bunch of money from my 90k tech job and now I'm sitting pretty, working on a catamaran, fucking cute surfer girls. + +Couple rules: + +Don't park next to druggy rv's +Don't cook inside the van or hangout outside the van before you sleep. Always arrive, sleep, and leave. +Most tech companies have showers and employee fridges. Eat prepped food until you get a job at a place, then use their shit + Don't get the cooler or fridge. Not worth. +Get rid of cotton socks and underwear. Buy all merino. Doesn't smell and can be washed with just water in a pinch. Smelly stuff ruins the small interior space that is your home. Also another reason not to cook. Cooking grease in your bed room is a bad idea. +When it's hot, find higher altitudes with a breeze. Open the street side window. +Use Google maps to find 2-4 spots ideally in neighborhoods and save them. Rotate your sleeping there so ppl don't trip about it. + +Have fun. I've witnessed the funniest and weirdest shit living in a van. Weirdest thing was some couple fucked up against my van one night. Though they were breaking in. Looked out and just see two ppl making out hardcore. Laughed, went back to sleep and they left, none the wiser. + +Get that money. + +Pic is my work place now. +--- 2548934 +>>2548907 +>>2548919 +I literally cannot comprehend why people put up with this dystopian shit. + +You know there is a whole continent sized country right? And like every major city has jobs for tech? Holy shit, pack your shit and go to Houston or New Orleans and write code for the oil and gas guys. Go to Florida or Georgia and write code for startups. Go to any sunbelt state and write code for Lockheed or Raytheon. + +On second thought. Stay in California. +--- 2548938 +>>2548912 +California has an air force and a navy. +--- 2548966 +>>2548938 +They'll sell them soon to fund reparations +--- 2548975 +>>2548938 +California also controls most of the import export for the United States. Not to mention most of the farming for the entire country. You can larp all you want but let's not forget why the South lost the first time around. Thin supply lines and lack of manufacturing regardless of the amount of guns. This will be the downfall always. +--- 2548984 +>>2548934 +Cope and seethe that he lives a more exciting life than you +--- 2548992 +>>2548938 +What navy? The one that they turned over to Washington because they didn't like the huge naval presence in the Bay? +--- 2548999 +>>2548984 +Yes, the much vaunted and desired life of a homeless person. +--- 2549001 +>>2548975 +I dont think you understand. Per the agreement just formalized with my Yankee friend, we first make California howl, and then we do a re-run of the last war. +--- 2549030 +>>2548907 +>>2548919 +Yeah, I think most companies I am applying for have gyms onsite. There is also an expectation of working OT, I'll take as much as I can get just to get ahead/not be in my vehicle. I think working a shit ton of OT will also put me on the fast-track to promotions too. + +I think I'm going to do it, better to struggle for one year than to struggle for 10 years. I'll spend most of my weekday working. Pick up a trailer from storage on weekends, which will have a lot more amenities and a laundry machine. I'll take it out to a campsite over the weekend, play vidya, cook/meal prep, and repeat. Maybe I'll enjoy it so much I just keep doing it. +--- 2549212 +>>2548871 +>so mad about being poor your reply to a day old post +lol, lmao even. maybe if you weren't a retarded drug addict you could afford to live hahahaha +--- 2549217 +>>2548328 (OP) +working in-person in any sort of population center is tough if you're living out of a 4runner. if you're remote and don't have to do a ton of calls, then you're golden. +--- 2549342 +>>2548330 +ignore this fucking child...why not just get a job and apartment? lol why live in a fucking car.. Rather than nut up and get employed after doing fuck all in undergrad he is now planning to be homeless rather try to apply himself +--- 2549345 +>>2549342 +OK Boomer +--- 2549438 +>>2549342 +Living in a truck is fun & renting is a scam. +--- 2549439 +>>2549342 +>explicitly states plan to work full time +>Rather than nut up and get employed + +this poster is either shitposting or too stupid to read. either way, not worthy of attention +--- 2549448 +>>2549439 +>employed and homeless +why choose the worst of both worlds? +--- 2549449 +Lots of butthurt wages and rentcucks in this thread +--- 2549504 +>>2549217 +>if you're remote and don't have to do a ton of calls, then you're golden. +If you're remote, you should move someplace you can at least afford to rent. Holy fuck. The utter degeneracy, the complete lack of self respect. +--- 2549505 +>>2549438 +renting is a viable economic strategy provided its not permanent. When I finished law school, despite an excellent salary, there was a lag time where I simply did not have the means of buying a house. So I rented for 18 months while I built up my finances. + +Alternatively, there is someone in my office who got seconded for a trial. She will be here for like a year or two, no sense in her buying a house. + +>>2549449 +peak poverty cope +--- 2549512 +>>2549505 +OK Boomer +--- 2549514 +>>2549512 +I was born in 1993. +>okay boomer +Translation: I am financially illiterate and blame my shortcomings on others + +Show yourself some fucking respect. +--- 2549516 +>>2549514 +Oy vey you're old for 4chan and to be talking about self respect. Keep pushing that rent meme. Maybe if you believe it hard enough it'll make you feel better. +--- 2549519 +>>2549516 +>29 +>too old for the slowest tamest hobby orientated board on 4chinz +'kay + +>rent meme +Its not a meme if you are financially literate. If you cant afford the basics of a 21'st century human. Either leverage your skills to earn better money, or move someplace you can afford to live. Simple as. +--- 2549959 +>>2549505 +Shit is not sustainable for a majority. It's a flawed system I refused to contribute into. You say "provided its not permanent" which is true, but there is a growing number of people where it is permanent since it's increasingly hard to escape out of. + +I'm assuming you live in a place that makes it reasonable to purchase a home under 200k. OP posted about Washington, which at the bare minimum is 500k for anything worth actually buying. Living in a cozy truck is better than forfeiting 1.5k a month for rent as I posted in >>2548552 . If you have no means of getting a decent job/salary/education or just wanna save money faster, alternative living is great. +--- 2549961 +>>2549505 +nobody is going to pay your mortgage anymore shlomo. the goyim know. +--- 2549982 +>mfw 2 bedroom house on half-acre surrounded by trees and only a 10 minute ride to work +>$600/month +Just make more money. +It's that easy. +--- 2550057 +>>2548419 + +No, unless he is mechanical engineering or computer science he most definitely will not make that kind of money starting. With a 4 year degree in literally anything else in stem except maybe EE he'll make $45 - $50k starting. If you make the mistake of BioE like I did you can expect to be homeless anyway. What are you a fuckin college recruiter? +--- 2550084 +>>2549212 +you just did the same thing nigger stay mad lmao, also your projection is visible from space, or are you just a dumb redneck? +>hurr durr he must be homeless himself +ok retard +--- 2550086 +>>2548328 (OP) +I feel like all the people in this thread bitching about living in a van/truck/etc. don't spend much time /out/. + +I am already spending every weekend sleeping at trailheads in and/or sleeping in my tent while on trails. I hate going back to my apartment (which isn't a bad apartment) and having to go into work during the week. I would love to work remotely and just be able to spend all my time driving around the country to different trails. +--- 2550132 +>>2549959 +>I'm assuming you live in a place that makes it reasonable to purchase a home under 200k. OP posted about Washington, which at the bare minimum is 500k for anything worth actually buying. Living in a cozy truck is better than forfeiting 1.5k a month for rent as I posted in >>2548552 . If you have no means of getting a decent job/salary/education or just wanna save money faster, alternative living is great. +Move. + +>>2549961 +>le based trad conservative living as a vagrant +--- 2550135 +>>2548328 (OP) +fuck off we're full +kill yourself tourist +the other homeless here will eat you alive +--- 2550137 +>>2550132 +>Move +This is /out/ and you are telling someone to leave the best /out/ state in the lower 48. +--- 2550183 +>>2550137 +Yes. I am telling you that your financial future is more important than the ability to hike a nice trail on the w/end. + +You dont even have to leave the state. Anon, claims to be able to work remote. Nothing stopping him going to a small town and working from there. Hell, a rural local would surely provide more /out/ opportunities than an urban one? +--- 2550278 +>>2549342 +>apply yourself to being a wagie +have fun, retard. +--- 2550289 +>>2550183 +>Anon, claims to be able to work remote. Nothing stopping him going to a small town and working from there. +Internet access might. Plenty of small towns out there have shit internet. I'm not reading 66 replies to see if he needs high up/down speeds, but if he's video conferencing or uploading large files then he'll want decent speeds. +--- 2550319 +>>2548552 +Get a chinese diesel heater bro. Mold because propane creates moisture. Get a vent fan too +--- 2550322 +>>2550183 +>Yes. I am telling you that your financial future is more important than the ability to hike a nice trail on the w/end. + + +Financial future is irrelevant. If I made 100k/yr in a remote job, I would still live in a van. +--- 2550323 +>>2550289 +Starlink exists for this reason alone. It’s a godsend for us rural chads. +--- 2550325 +>>2550319 +Yea, that's the plan. I'm not entirely concerned about the moisture from propane, since I run it with the back open. But I never knew it created moisture, so thanks for letting me know! +The mold problem was mostly from me being a dumbass in a few ways... Parked on a hill for a few weeks... Left curtains down... A few new leaks from the rare PNW snow....... +But live and learn I suppose. It's only like 30$ worth of wood and I dissembled everything to save all the hardware. So over-all not a big loss. Great opportunity to build it better :D! +--- 2550327 +>>2550322 +Haha for-real, last year I netted ~170k while still living in my truck over the summer. Can't wait to rebuild and get back to it. +Those were some of the happiest days I've experienced. +--- 2550341 +>>2550323 +No. Starlink is extremely variable w/ speeds. At my cabin it's not good enough to support zoom calls. At best I can watch 240p Youtube, at worst I cant load pages. +--- 2550344 +>>2550341 +I have no idea how that’s happening for you, but I’d wager you have some obstructions… or massive congestion? +Here (lane county OR) it’s been virtually flawless. 4K streaming works perfectly, typical throughput is ~170MB/s down 15MB/s up, with roughly 25ms latency. + +Coming from viasat as well as cellular, there is no comparison. +--- 2550423 +>>2550322 +I dont dispute that you're an idiot. +--- 2550475 +>>2550423 +Unless you are raising a family, I see absolutely no reason to lock yourself to one place when you could live in a nice van and be anywhere you feel like at any time. +--- 2550483 +>>2550475 +Its an asset that insulates your wealth against inflation and taxation. If you dont want to live in it, rent it out. +--- 2550492 +>>2550341 +>>2550344 +Not sure if you guys are trolling or what but starlink isn't released to the public yet. +--- 2550493 +>>2550483 +holy shit this dumbass missed the entire point of the thread omegalul +--- 2550497 +>>2550492 +Closed beta/Limited users. You can put your email on the site and get early access +--- 2550499 +>>2550057 +nta but i studied forestry in school, and currently get paid $50/hr +--- 2550501 +>>2550499 +Kek nobody with a forestry degree makes $50/h. If you would've said a meme degree like marketing I would've believed you. +--- 2550502 +>>2550501 +graduated with honours from a CalPoly, got a B.Sc. in forestry w/ a minor in GIS +pay is $36.5/hr + 25% bonus for health and wellness + $50 per diem. +i make just under $2100/week pre tax, takehome is just over $1500/week after everything is taken out +i'm sorry you got a degree in something and didnt pivot to something profitable in your industry, but forestry pays dumbfuck money if you are competent +--- 2550504 +>>2550502 +>pay is $36.5/hr +>$50/hr +Which is it? +--- 2550505 +>>2550500 +Cope and seeth. 250k is the new 100k. You can piss and moan about society while still taking part in it. +--- 2550506 +>>2550504 +$36.5/hr * 1.25 = $46/hr +$50 per diem / 8 hours = $6.25/hr +$46 + $6.25 = $52.25/hr +so i guess i was wrong, i make more than $50/hr +--- 2550507 +>>2550500 +easy to spend money quickly when you always get more; many people who come into money end up penniless soon afterwards due to poor financial planning +--- 2550522 +>>2550502 +do u work for esri +--- 2550543 +>>2550506 + +Uh huh, just know that most people with decent grades in soft STEM degrees don't get government jobs thrown at their holes as soon as they graduate, appreciate that you experiencing the STEM field on easy mode. No go forth, and cry about the gender wage gap no further. +--- 2550681 +>>2550543 +literally just joined the local union to look at plants growing near powerlines lmao, there are like 50 other dumbfucks doing the exact same thing in this city alone +>apply for job +>next day HR calls and says they will forward my app +>day after manager calls and offers me a job +it’s really just that easy +--- 2550748 +>>2550505 +Very cringe. + +>>2550500 +The thread derailed because right at the start the only valid answer was given +>fucking move to someplace you can afford to live +And that resulted in the ocean of cope +>no no no I am actually well to do I merely choose to live like a vagrant + +>>2550507 +This, in a big way. +--- 2550830 +>>2548328 (OP) +imitate only the best op +--- 2550848 +>>2550500 +Larp, as always. +--- 2550891 +Any Europeans doing this? I want to buy a van and build into temporary residence to climb and travel for maybe one or two months max at a time. +>>2550830 +This guy's face is the stereotypical bum alcoholic face. If you'd see him in the street, even well dressed, you'd wonder if he's an alcoholic bum. +--- 2550913 +>>2550522 +no, though i use the ESRI suite of GIS products +i work for the powerline union +--- 2550920 +>>2550748 +>>fucking move to someplace you can afford to live +Not whoever you're arguing with, but the answer to that is always +>No, I like it here +Van life is not all that bad when you're still young and make decent salary. I never really understand why do these threads always get desperate losers saying what can be basically surmised as 'Stop enjoying things I don't like'. +>>2550500 +Same reason why some choose to live in countries with lower cost of living but first world salaries w/ remote work or businesses. +--- 2550997 +>>2550920 +i own a camper van, not some ghetto converted panel van and ive tried to vanlife it in BC. + +vanlife is really annoying now due to A) gas prices B) cities cracking down hardcore on people living in vehicles. its not really a viable strategy to avoid paying the rental jew since youll be burning a similar amount every month on car repairs,cost to move around, getting decent data plans to actually exist in modern society, gym membership, increased spending on food due to limitations in cooking/refrigeration. also crackheads are relentless now. + +its really fucking gay trying to live in a major population center in a van and trying to hold down a real job(i.e. a job that makes you be presentable irl). Its just too difficult to spin the plates of modern wagey life while you dont have a toilet and a shower. it can work if you live somewhere that has zero accommodations but a strong demand for jobs(aka vacation towns) but still allows people to live in town in a van, these are rare now though. + +Its only really viable as a way to see large swathes of your countries outdoors for cheap and take long vacation that you can skirt the parts of america that arent an apocalyptic wasteland. its not a viable way out of the wage cage unless can seriously get creative with a remote job +--- 2551025 +>>2548355 +Actually we’re getting pretty tired of these hobos in Wyoming. Fuck off. +--- 2551063 +>>2550891 +are you a teenage girl or something? +>muh alcoholic bums +you sound like you just have to ask your parents to buy you a van lol +--- 2551072 +>>2551063 +Why are you upset, do you look like him? Most homeless have specific faces. You can tell a lot by a man by his face. +--- 2551079 +>>2550997 +Emphasis on the crackhead part. You're going to get shit from normies but you're also easy prey for drug addicts and other scumbags. It sucks because the few places that'd be perfect for van/camper life is riddled with them. +--- 2551277 +>>2548328 (OP) +Just move somewhere affordable +It's not hard. +--- 2551282 +>>2551277 +Somewhere affordable doesn't give the same employment possibilities. Some professionals can't just move to a random medium sized town and expected a career out there. Especially when starting off. Most careers that require living in expensive places start out hard due to several barriers of entry and not making that much for the area initially, but it pays off even three years later when you can leverage a better salary. It's insanity telling people to forget their careers and not to look for alternative ways to live. Obviously you can't live in a van forever and I don't think anyone is recommending this in a serious capacity. The economic reality is that to be competitive and to have a real career you MUST live in places you can't ordinarily afford or will struggle to make meets end. You will STRUGGLE because there is competition. It's idiotic to suggest leaving that behind and fucking off into some irrelevant backwater when that doesn't work for almost all career paths. Maybe if you want to work in a very niche outdoors job that lets you live in some rural location with good salary this is good advice, but in most cases it is like a kid trying to advise grown up men. +>>2550997 +Living in a camper van makes it very obvious you're there to sleep in that camper. Regular vans and cars will attract suspicion, but there's some benefit of doubt that a camper van will simply not have. If you're in one there's no doubt why you're camping out in random places. If it is just a van, you can get away with a lot more. +--- 2551288 +>>2551282 +I live in small town louisiana making 45k/year in a house that costs $600/m in rent +If you can't find happiness with $1000-1300 disposable income, joining the rat race in an overpopulated city isn't going to help. +Unironically: Let me guess, you "need" more? +--- 2551304 +>>2551288 +It's not purely about income, like I said most fields of work simply require you to exist in a very expensive area. +--- 2551309 +>>2551304 +Very few, if any anon. +There's good work everywhere. +--- 2551312 +>>2551309 +There might be, but someone who studied, invested time and money into a specific field to study something is just not going to randomly get a job being a roofer in some small Louisiana town, even if it the income and what they can put aside is not all that bad. +--- 2551315 +>>2551312 +>invest time +>invest money +You barely studied in college and you paid for it with other people's money. +C'mon anon, do you have some sort of identify you're trying to form? +Be happy anon. That's all there is to it. +It sounds from the get-go you've chained and shackled yourself to a specific field. +--- 2551319 +>>2551315 +You don't seem to comprehend that some people want to be in a specific career. +--- 2551322 +>>2551319 +I do +And I'm here to tell them they're going to be wrong and if they get stuck on it, they'll be miserable for the rest of their lives. +Easy come, easy go anon. +Don't get too hung up on stuff. +--- 2551353 +>>2551322 +retard advice +>don't become a doctor bro because it will be hard for a few years +--- 2551794 +>>2550681 + +not trolling, but are you a diversity hire or what? +--- 2551798 +>>2551322 +This is wrong + +Your experience != universal truth +--- 2551801 +>>2551794 +Assuming he's telling the truth he's probably more like a strategic waste of state funding. They're either +A) diverting funds to this to divert attention away from something else, or to draw attention to this specifically for future reasons (campaigns) +B) doing this to avoid funding something else +C) all of the above +--- 2551826 +>>2548328 (OP) +>small booty white girls +That's a no-go chief. +--- 2552025 +>>2548328 (OP) +I spent the last two years on my sailboat. Back on land now. Sold my boat and upgrading to a 41' so I can do transatlantic trips. I hate being tied down to an apartment, but this job pays well, and will fund my wind hippie dreams. +--- 2552026 +>>2550500 +Most of them are programmers and yes 100k is the good life. +--- 2552371 +>>2552026 +>100k is the good life. +If you live in the rural south, maybe. Anywhere near a major city, no. Better up that figure by several thousand if you want to live the good life. +--- 2552711 +>>2552371 +>near a major city +>the good life +kill yourself +--- 2552751 +>>2548398 +>>2548407 +Just graduated with an EE degree. First offer I got was $66k/yr and guaranteed raises every year. Within 5 years, I'll be over $100k. +--- 2552752 +>>2552711 +Where do you think programmer jobs are, genius? Hint: they aren't remote. +--- 2552753 +>>2548355 +>Streets are filled with Van Dwellers +That just makes me think that Jackson WY is a trashy shithole with a homeless problem. +--- 2552757 +>>2552752 +They are remote though. +--- 2552759 +>>2552753 +These "homelesss" people are climbers and skiers living in expensive ass vans filled with expensive ass gear. +--- 2552760 +>>2552759 +Oh we're bringing back that meme again? +--- 2552762 +>>2552760 +Bro it's Jackson. They are obviously all climbers and skiers. There is no other reason homeless people would try to live there. +--- 2552792 +>>2548328 (OP) +I did this back in 2019 because rent in colorado is fucking dumb and I had a big enough bed on my truck to put a camper shell on it and a cot. I saved a shitload of money, you just have to swap camping spots every two weeks and don't fall trap to buying shit at a gas station every time you go to one. The town I lived near(salida-leadville) had bath houses I bought a membership at, and I was religious about laundry. +--- 2553064 +>>2550499 +>>2550502 +$75k salary not bad but still, then you have to live in cali dude +--- 2553330 +>>2548328 (OP) +I'm about to start a 14/7 camp job and also thinking about taking the homeless pill. Tacoma + cap/shell and stay in campgrounds/crown land on my days off. +--- 2553336 +>>2550830 +Did the mounties finally catch him sleeping in the woods? +--- 2553603 +>>2553064 +>$75k +it's around that after taxes, yes +I also pay $400/mo in rent for a studio and live in a beautiful coastal city while living on a horse ranch, so i dont really care what your retarded opinion about california or my wages are lol +--- 2553636 +>>2553603 +do horses care that they walk around all day naked? +--- 2553908 +>>2548934 +Rootless parasites such as these should be killed. Literally as if a gypsy born in another life +--- 2553924 +>>2553908 +t. loser with no sense of adventure +--- 2553948 +>>2548934 +>4runner +solar water heater for hot water +larger one with tray for cooking food, both will double as thermoses for keeping shit hot for a couple hours(also sealed to reduced food smell) +collapsible bucket with wood step you can put in it, some rapid dry antimicrobial shower curtains with magnets to attach to ceiling, sand filter to catch all your soap and a small shower hook via magnet, now you too can be clean, showered and not use gallons of water keeping fresh +12/24volt fridge/freezer, lots of good ones and crap ones, always run it off a separate battery bank, with a panel on top, free fridgeration everywhere +also any number of lights(solar recharge ones that don't breakdown, $5 buck minimum) +vent a MUST(leaving windows open just invites poor kids and deadbeats to break in looking for change/money/phones and stereo's to sell after a couple weeks(when pawn shops don't have to report it no more) +get a scrubber bag dry bag to self clean small numbers of your clothes for places without laundromats/retracting clothes line +forget all those other toilets, just use a WELL SEALED CASET TOILET, legal to dump the shit/piss in all states(with each ones differing laws), sealed so no smell unless you leave it full for days/weeks. Try to shit elsewhere on principle. Not on street, sidewalk, along the road. Use a cot to stay cooler during the summer, add blankets below it to stay warmer, get a diesel heater with a gas can attachment to double as a gas can for really cold locations. +>>2550997 +>>2551282 +people no longer believe in their 401k's, KNOW that they need to grab their pensions as soon as possible because they get robbed/defunded at a drop of a hat, people currently believe in their homes as their only REAL investments, thus all those laws and shit, crappy rent costs, and all those investment firms buying up property everywhere, vehicles are now considered short term investments by some people +--- 2553989 +>>2548934 +You do realize you are on /out/ right? Why would someone leave one of the top /out/ states in the country for some boring shit state like florida? +--- 2554138 +>>2553636 +yes, they also prefer to be warm like us and often do well if you drape blankets over them +--- 2554203 +>>2548328 (OP) +being homeless and being a van hipster are two VERY different things, and if I think about it both groups deserve the lifestyle of the other. Give the hobos some decent equipment, and let the hipsters be destitute and eat out of dumpsters. They might learn something. OP is a massive faggot. +--- 2554232 +>>2554203 +Not really. They're the same thing. +--- 2554471 +>>2554232 +if you live in a shithole maybe +--- 2554483 +>>2553924 +Only white women think vanlife is some kind of adventure +--- 2554568 +>>2554471 +money and access to money are the only real difference between the two +most Hipsters and shit have access to drugs, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS and use them with some doctors prescribing them just to use recreationally +Poor guys/bums do crimes/steal/trade copper and parts for their drugs instead. +Most law enforcement gets all their pay and money via drug wars laws. THEY LOVE catching pounds of weed/dope/meth/etc because it nets them large amounts of federal money that their small towns and cities couldn't afford to pay them with. Thus hounding the homeless and hoping to score free vehicles, drug busts, and more. All the land is officially owned now, so no one can go and be a forest monk no more. No States support bottle/bag/can rebates because they want their homeless to generate money for their police departments, make them feel good about locking them up, and getting more federal money, free forced labor, and supporting their housing markets valuations. +--- 2554616 +>>2554483 +You have no imagination. +--- 2554618 +>>2548854 +Well obviously you couldn't afford rent, can't be utopia. +--- 2554827 +>>2548355 +Fuck off, and stay out. +--- 2555345 +>>2548804 +>just be a part of my jewish society why do you faggots have to live without supporting banks and globohomo businesses! +I'll continue getting everything free while you wageslave. Thanks for the tax money! +--- 2555348 +>>2550500 +100k is basically minimum wage in this economy. im married and our hose hold income is a bit over 200k total. we live in a 3 bed 2 bath, thankfully we bought it pre pandemic for 400k, today it's worth more like 800. 2 6 figure earners together couldn't buy a 3 bed 2 bath in a decent part of town today. sUsTaInAbL3. + +i honestly don't know how a family of 4 making 100k is even surviving these days. been grocery shopping lately? 250 a week is normal if you're planning meals and eating cheap. add steaks once a week and that's another 60 bucks easily. +--- 2555442 +>>2555348 +Where do you live that makes 100,000k not upper middle class? +--- 2555450 +>>2548519 +lmao there's really still people in the world who think that being a wage slave cuck living in a concrete box being poisoned by smog and plastic in your blood sent off to work having your time and labor stolen by greedy corporations is 'functioning as a normal human being' and on top of that they gaslight and pressure people into thinking this servitude is a real and sustainable way to live hahahaha you people (mostly boomers) are so fucked in the head, beyond repair, have fun slaving away to pay off your concrete box. +Have you seen those little cages they put hens into in these dystopian factory farms? Now imagine they would make the hen pay for the privilege to be imprisoned there being forced to work. That's you in your house in the suburbs, boomer. +--- 2555468 +>>2555442 +The United States. +--- 2556501 +>>2548999 +The entire world is his home. Close-minded aren't you? +--- 2556502 +>>2549504 +Landlord hands typed this post +--- 2556784 +I have a 4runner that I converted. Can you live out it full time? Sure. But you won’t enjoy it. I tried it for a week and it’s far from ideal. It’s a great weekender build though and comfy when you want to go camp. +--- 2556808 +>>2548328 (OP) +I did this during the start of Covid. My job went fully remote so I sold my house and a lot of my garbage possessions, loaded what I needed (including wife and two dogs) and drove halfway across the country to basically car camp for 6 months while we looked for property to buy. Worked off cell phone service the whole time, now you can get Starlink RV which is great (currently living in an RV on aforementioned property and using Starlink for internet). +We had a lot of success using this as a transitional step from one lifestyle to the next, but be warned - a lot of people end up just pissing away their time and money because the realities of being homeless by choice/vanlife/whatever you want to call it is that a lot of things you used to take for granted are now pains in the ass and cost you money and there is likely a lot of gear you will need to get if you want to be able to do things like have power or be able to take showers. +There is a lot of boredom, there is a good bit of being miserable (like backpacking with no upside), you will spend obscene amounts of time just maintaining a consistent lifestyle and doing it alone is not going to be any less of a total pain in the ass. +We took it as a massive risk and it worked out for us, but it frequently felt not worth it at the time and I don't really know how doable it would have been for me to do in my 20s straight out of college. +--- 2556938 +Bros, not sure if related, but didn't want to make a new thread. +Basically im tired of this shit, and i just want to go live in the wild. Not really a homestead, but as close as hunter-gathers used to, do you have any resources where i can learn the skills needed to survive? Preferably books. +I know you may think im a larper but is either go to the wild or kms in the city. +--- 2557572 +>>2556938 +Unironically? Spend time with these guys, because the next best thing would probably just be those communities in remote parts of Siberia that still partially live off the land. +--- 2557573 +>>2557572 +>>2556938 +>picrel +--- 2557575 +>>2556938 +>quaint Siberian village +--- 2559415 +>>2555468 +--- 2559649 +>>2548517 +Get a slingshot and use little rocks the size of grapes. +Find a nice hidden position and hit the vehicle. Find different positions to practice from. +He won't be able to figure out from which direction it comes from if you change places often. +He probably won't chance going to the police as he probably already has complaints about his loitering there. +He'll get the message and move on somewhere else. Try this before using torch method. +Druggies have no self-awareness, pretty soon he'll be shitting on the sidewalk and jerking off in front of kids. Do it anon. +--- 2559914 +>>2549448 +the money you schmuck +--- 2560057 +>>2559415 +Welcome to life in Clapistan +--- 2560117 +>>2550341 +Then you should contact star link. That’s fucked +>>2550344 +Starlink deep in the Adirondacks here and able to video conference with ease, stream anything we need to +--- 2560195 +>>2548975 +>most of the farming for the entire country +Lmao you mean almonds and avocados? Cash crops are in California, the actual breadbasket is the middle of the country +--- 2560478 +>>2555442 +literally anywhere within 30 miles of a top 100 population center in the CONUS or Europe? + +In the last 3 years I've lived in Boston, Salt Lake, Vegas, Reno, and Phoenix and Phoenix was really the only one I'd say 100k is even livable as lower middle class. No way it's upper middle class. That was at the start of the pandemic so it's unlikely that's even true anymore with property increases. + +Define upper middle class. I'd say its a family of 4 as being able to afford owning a 3 bed 2 in an ok neighborhood, 2 ok cars, a family vacation every year and 2 kids. That's a minimum of 150k a year in little towns, more like 250k a year in civilization and something like 400k a year in large metros today. +--- 2560614 +>>2548328 (OP) +Any thoughts on doing this in the UK? Like the sound of it for a bit to save. +--- 2560638 +>>2560478 +It’s kinda fucked how much property values have gone up. +Last apartment I rented was 1175 (2bd 1bth, nice neighborhood) +7 years later it’s now 1800 a month. +If you didn’t buy a house pre money-printing-orgy; your prospects are dim at best. + +A family of 4 could be very comfortable on 100k provided they aren’t having to pay north of 2.5k a month for a mortgage (god forbid they’re having to rent a house). The situation is completely untenable. +--- 2562062 +I dunno cars aren't that big, rooftop tents are kind of cool to hang out in if your homeless but most of it being able to stand up and walk around..summers you need a shower in the morning and maybe a shower after work and another one after working out..so that would be 3 showers..alot of water issues with van dwelling so always need access to facilities. As far as work is concerned you need to shower before work usually so if work really early in the morning it isn't an option..thats where people rather live in homes or use showerbags with heated water..not smelling is always the issue..if near a mall you could shit mall restrooms during the day but if you need shit late at night like alot of people do that isn't an option so you need to shit..thats the meme..alot of drug related crimes because of that. No engineer degrees thats 126 IQ business..thats a no. +--- 2562064 +>>2548330 +That shit sucks ass when you spend any real amount of time in it because how confined it is. +--- 2562119 +>>2560614 +Very VERY illegal in the UK. Not worth all the legal troubles that this would cause desu. +--- 2562247 +>>2562119 +>it's illegal in the UK to cope with homelessness by using your vehicle as a place to shelter you from the elements +is the UK even real? +--- 2562560 +>>2562247 + +It was, once. These days I think it's just being allowed to exist as a warning to the others. +--- 2562935 +Kill van dwellers. Behead van dwellers. Roundhouse kick a van dweller into the concrete. Slam dunk a van dweller's baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy van dwellers. Defecate in a van dweller's food. Launch van dwellers into the sun. Stir fry van dwellers in a wok. Toss van dwellers into active volcanoes. Urinate into a van dweller's gas tank. Judo throw van dwellers into a wood chipper. Twist van dwellers heads off. Report van dwellers to the IRS. Karate chop van dwellers in half. Curb stomp pregnant van dwellers. Trap van dwellers in quicksand. Crush van dwellers in the trash compactor. Liquefy van dwellers in a vat of acid. Eat van dwellers. Dissect van dwellers. Exterminate van dwellers in the gas chamber. Stomp van dwellers skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate van dwellers in the oven. Lobotomize van dwellers. Mandatory abortions for van dwellers. Grind van dwellers fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown van dwellers in fried chicken grease. Vaporize van dwellers with a ray gun. Kick old van dwellers down the stairs. Feed van dwellers to alligators. Slice van dwellers with a katana. +--- 2562945 +>>2562560 +Absolutely the most succinct and profound comment on the UK. +--- 2563217 +>>2562935 +i'm not saying i would murder a van dweller but they are up there with prostitutes, transients, and hitchhikers in convenience & you know nobody cares about them enough to look for them or knows enough about their whereabouts to find you. +--- 2564352 +>>2548328 (OP) +Fuck every 40s or something bum going around asking for cigs +Fuck public bathrooms +Fuck Gypsies +Total Crackhead death +--- 2564353 +>>2548328 (OP) +>being a vancuck +>being homeless +>not looking for a cave and turning it into your hideout where you can fill it with booby-traps to catch feds trying to make you pay rent +Ngmi +--- 2564354 +>>2562935 +Total Vanigger Death +--- 2564357 +>>2554568 +so you're telling me the crackhead problem is all the pigger's fault? +--- 2564693 +>>2548919 +>Saved a bunch of money from my 90k tech job +>fucking cute surfer girls. +and then everyone clapped +--- 2564694 +>>2564353 +imagine this guys teeth +--- 2564701 +>>2564353 +/out/ once again completely misses the point of living in a van +--- 2564704 +>>2548328 (OP) +Yes washington is great. And as you said CoL is high so wages are relatively high even for shit like retail. +Shittiest part about it is Seattle and very lax EBT requirements and thieving/drug use laws pulled a shit load of homeless from the nation to washington. But the farther you get from cityfag area the less likely you'll run into crack heads. You'll still see them if you work in the suburbs but they generally fuck off + +Another note is any forest/park within a mile of a major chain store or bus line will have homeless, so if you find a spot and think "this will be easy" you probably goofed +--- 2564705 +>>2564353 +>bro just find a cave +Caves are unironically boomer tourist attractions now a days. Do you even uncle ted? +--- 2564706 +>>2563217 +Also buy a recording device set to email video every x days unless you enter a pause phrase for faggots like this +--- 2564749 +>>2548329 +>>2548328 (OP) +This is the dream but I want to caution anyone anti social enough to do this that its not that simple. dont go anywhere until you have the job locked down. +--- 2564751 +>>2551801 +its obviously just an early warning layer to keep primitive anarchos from setting fire to relays. easily worth the money paid out. Like amazon pays me rediculous money for the work required for the same reason. it's not because it's work. I do the same ammount of work as a cash register, maybe less. theres no counting or people. I typically make 30% or more than any of them though. Why? loyalty. They don't want their workers to walk. simple as. +--- 2564769 +>>2550086 +One thing living in wilderness and another is living very close to people and being exposed to worst human scum possible. +--- 2564847 +>>2549982 +Alright, but where do you live? +--- 2564923 +>>2553330 +>campgrounds +>tacoma +Fucking what? Lmao +--- 2565070 +>>2548328 (OP) +>thinking about picking Washington +Fuck off, we're full. +--- 2565104 +>>2548328 (OP) +>COL is high, meaning wages must also be high + +HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAA +holy shit do you actually believe that?? +--- 2565115 +>>2564923 +What part of this doesn't make sense? +--- 2565209 +>>2548537 +>>2548540 +What are tips, you fucking morons. +--- 2565482 +>>2550325 +great and inspiring attitude bro +--- 2565525 +>>2565115 +I misread. I thought you were implying tacoma city, not tacoma truck +--- 2566839 +It's time to start exterminating these genetic misfires. +>https://wgme.com/news/local/maine-housing-crisis-homeless-encampments-portland-bayside-trail-temporary-shelter diff --git a/out/2549523.txt b/out/2549523.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a3e86e2005e7eb65531f16f2d6de8ce7e79996be --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2549523.txt @@ -0,0 +1,279 @@ +----- +--- 2549523 +I'm supposed to be on trail in less than 3 weeks but the entire fucking trail in buried in snow... +--- 2549524 +>>2549523 (OP) +Yeh you ain't gonna be hiking the Sierra portion of the pct any time soon, with how much they've been getting buried. + +Should have planned ahead. +--- 2549529 +>>2549523 (OP) +My hometown near Arrowhead is buried and the grocery store fucking collapsed from all the snow- the mountains aint gonna be good to go for awhile +--- 2549531 +>>2549523 (OP) +Yeah you're probably fucked. You could go hard with snowshoes and a sled but the ground will dry while you're on trail. You could try to hide it or rent a storage unit if it's worth it to you. +--- 2549570 +>>2549524 +>Yeh you ain't gonna be hiking the Sierra portion of the pct any time soon, with how much they've been getting buried. +Why not? Its just walking on snow. My plan is to get through the Sierra's quick before everything begins to melt. By going early I am hoping to encounter fewer stream crossings and have less postholing. +>>2549529 +>>2549531 +A few weeks from now I think we'll be good. Sierras will be a bitch no matter what +--- 2550953 +its going to be closed off. However if you want to rogue it, prepare for trails under 30 feet of snow, avalanches, flooding, and death. + +t. mono county +--- 2550959 +>>2549523 (OP) +The first month is all desert. The trail doesn't summit mt San Antonio. If you aren't leaving until April anyway you won't actually hit the sierras until June. I'm sure this season will be worse than any in recent memory, but you should cry about it when you get there. Who knows it might all melt by then due to global warming. +--- 2550974 +Actual picture of me in the Sierras this June. +--- 2550982 +>>2549523 (OP) +--- 2550985 +OP is probably a fucktard who thinks “walking on snow” is easy/possible (without snow shoes). The PCT is gay in normal years with the 5000+ normie faggots who attempt it these days. If OP is actually a badass half-yeti hybrid hiker more power to him. It would be better to just go south bound this year, you’ll even get more of the trail before the fires start in July/August up north. +--- 2551000 +>>2549570 +You are a complete and utter idiot + +Please, please, please dont postpone your trip. Go on with it. I beg of you. Let natural selection do its job before you procreate +--- 2551003 +>>2549523 (OP) +https://youtu.be/oAFXM7TTpYo [Embed] +--- 2551005 +>>2549523 (OP) +I'm sorry to hear that man. I did it in 2018 and I never even got rained on until the last week. +--- 2551008 +>>2549529 +Yo Goodwin's right? I lived in Arrowhead in 1998-2004. A buddy of mine who still lives out there was telling me about that. +--- 2551009 +>>2551003 +Based Dixie. I want her size 11s on my shoulders so bad. +--- 2551012 +>>2551005 +Forgot pic. This was late June I believe. +--- 2551014 +>>2551009 +same, with that accent +>raht thair, anon +>thait's et +>ah don't cair if someone's coming cuz ah am, anon +--- 2551022 +>>2550953 +>its going to be closed off. However if you want to rogue it, prepare for trails under 30 feet of snow, avalanches, flooding, and death. +fuck yeah! lets go +>>2550959 +>If you aren't leaving until April anyway you won't actually hit the sierras until June +I'll be in campo the first week of april so I hope to enter the sierras like 3rd week of may. I dont know shit, so I could be wrong, but it seems like the river crossings are the biggest danger, so I'm hoping to clear the sierras before everything melts turns to shit +I have crampons, snowshoes and an ice axe +>>2550985 +>OP is probably a fucktard who thinks “walking on snow” is easy/possible (without snow shoes) +I have snow shoes. +>It would be better to just go south bound this year, you’ll even get more of the trail before the fires start in July/August up north. +I dont want AT levels of social interaction, but I also dont want SOBO levels of social interaction. I want to go NOBO and stay in-front of the bubble. Maybe hike behind a cute girl and sniff her butt all day/ +>>2551000 +are you okay? +>>2551005 +>I'm sorry to hear that man. I did it in 2018 and I never even got rained on until the last week. +I have led a life of disappointment so I have become something of a cope-artist. And with these abilities I have convinced myself that this year is going to be epic. I know its going to suck, and there will be some temptation to flip-flop, but I'm fully committed to roughing it out and spending the next decade reminding faggots about how "back in my day.." +I havent even hit the trail yet and I already look down on you for hiking in such pussy conditions :) +>>2551009 +>Based Dixie. I want her size 11s on my shoulders so bad. +shoulders? wait, what? +--- 2551110 +>>2551022 +>shoulders? +I think he means he wants to have a variant of missionary position sexual intercourse with her, wherein her feet are placed upon his shoulders. +--- 2551115 +>>2550982 +I know. It's sad and funny at the same time. Some of the responses in this thread are absolutely pitiful too. +--- 2551871 +>>2551115 +>Posts a shit comment complaining about shit comments +Your lack of self awareness is truly impressive. +--- 2551900 +>>2549523 (OP) +Bad year for PCT thru hike attempts I'm afraid. At least you're aware of this. It' s going to be interesting to see how most thru-hikers response to the conditions. +The follow up concern is the state of the rivers once this snow melts out. +imo I would just forget trying to thru the pct this year, use the time and money to hike a bunch of other stuff rather than just sloggin the the bits of the pct that are free. Then return to the sierra in the fall when they might be more manageable. +I'm planning to try the sierra high route this year, but have pushed my plans as far back into sept as possible +--- 2551905 +>>2551871 +Go away, nu-out. The adults are talking. +--- 2552063 +>>2551900 +>It' s going to be interesting to see how most thru-hikers response to the conditions. +I think most people will skip, or "flip flop" and never come back. +>The follow up concern is the state of the rivers once this snow melts out. +I hit the Sierras second half of May, so I'm hoping to avoid that. +>imo I would just forget trying to thru the pct this year, use the time and money to hike a bunch of other stuff rather than just sloggin the the bits of the pct that are free. Then return to the sierra in the fall when they might be more manageable. +I'm fully locked in so I'm just going to make the best of it. The snowpack provides a really good opportunity to learn both mountaineering and back-country navigational skills. +But who knows? Maybe the weather will turn around. Still got a few weeks +--- 2553596 +250 PERCENT SNOWPACK HOLY HECKERINO +--- 2553598 +>>2549570 +>Why not? Its just walking on snow +You're gonna fucking die OP +--- 2553610 +>>2549523 (OP) +Bring skis. More fun than walking anyway. +--- 2553640 +>>2553598 +>You're gonna fucking die OP +dont tease me like that +>>2553596 +>250 PERCENT SNOWPACK HOLY HECKERINO +Yeah, the fearmongering has begun on reddit. +But I'm really looking forward to the Sierras, more than anything else. Its going to be a once in a lifetime adventure on top of a once in a lifetime adventure +>>2553610 +>Bring skis. More fun than walking anyway. +Wish I learned. Cross country looks comfy af +--- 2553643 +>>2553640 +>Wish I learned + +I never learned until recently. I just bought the gear and went out and started trying to use it. + +You will fall a few times your first day out, but will eventually figure it out. +--- 2553708 +>>2553640 +you have time to learn, i learned recently in a few days with just like 1 hour a day. plenty of good yt vids teaching u the basics, and then if u can try to go with someone who know how to ski, they can correct ur form +--- 2554134 +>>2553708 +sounds fun, but probably not the time for that. this trip through the sierras is going to be fucking insane. something that I am just soo under qualified for, its almost suicidal, reckless at best. +plus I dont wanna carry some heavy ass ski's. pack will already be 50lbs with snowshoes, an ice axe and crampons +--- 2554141 +>>2554134 +Weight of skis is far made up for by the increased speed, both uphill and downhill. Snowshoes are very slow and obnoxious. +--- 2554145 +>>2554141 +>Weight of skis is far made up for by the increased speed, both uphill and downhill. +its easier to slide down on my butt. dont skis require ski boots? +--- 2554256 +>nOoOoOoooo my metagame is ruined! +--- 2555428 +>>2553610 +>what if I just get on top of the snow +jej +--- 2555535 +I might have time to hike the PCT this year, I'm going over it as a plan B. But can't start till June, so am trying to figure a good starting point for a flip flop. +--- 2555539 +>>2552063 +>Maybe the weather will turn around. Still got a few weeks +Nope. More storms predicted thru first half of April and very good possibility of hitting all time snow records from '51-52. Lots of places very close to 700 inches of snow already. +--- 2555582 +>>2555535 +>I might have time to hike the PCT this year, I'm going over it as a plan B. But can't start till June, so am trying to figure a good starting point for a flip flop. +You could hike SOBO? +--- 2555628 +>>2555582 +I have to be home before the end of September so waiting to start a SoBo would leave a really tight time frame. +--- 2555631 +>>2555628 +You plan to hike the pct in under 3 months? You should definitely do it don't even bother reading about it. I have faith in you and your abilities. +--- 2555632 +>>2555628 +I guess you would have to start in NorCal if you want to be in the bubble. Another option would be hiking something like the Hayduke trail. With all the snow and water, it should be a good year for a desert hike +>>2555631 +>You plan to hike the pct in under 3 months? +He wants to section hike +--- 2555666 +>>2555631 +>You plan to hike the pct in under 3 months? +Noo I have ~100 days to hike but can only start early june. One idea is to start in NorCal and hike NoBo to the northern terminus, then flip back to NorCal and hike SoBo to the southern terminus. +>>2555632 +Yeah a NorCal start seems to be the best option. desu the more I look at it the more I think I'm going to stick with original plan. +>Hayduke +I hiked a 900 mile Hayduke last fall. Was amazing. +--- 2555685 +fucking californians I swear +>nooo our reservoirs are depleted and there's no snow!!11 +>noooo it's flooding and there's too much snow!!111 +--- 2557465 +Probably would want to hit the sierra in July. There will still be plenty of snow but enough will have melted that you will have an easier time with crossings. The only downside is you will be flirting with wildfire season heavily in the north. + +If you are set on your start date. Then, if you can safely get to cottonwood pass with the gear you bring, you are for sure good to go on the rest of the trail. If however, you feel like your gear (most likely shoes) you are under gunned before this point, pull off the trail and get a real set of mountaineering boots with a full shank and a real set of crampons you can kick steps with. + +Do a sanity check at cottonwood pass because it only gets harder from there - and it would be a good bailout point to go to lone pine/independence and hole up until your new gear arrives. GL. +--- 2557477 +>>2555685 +When I see 1’s I think of AOE +--- 2559201 +>>2549570 +Bro do not make this trek unless you are prepared with snowshoes and are prepared for insane river crossings. +The snowpack is extremely high this year. After 10 AM the snow will get extremely loose/sludgy and you will be postholing in 8 feet of snow. I am doing JMT next month and I am very nervous about the dangers this year. +--- 2559216 +>>2555685 +>>nooo our reservoirs are depleted and there's no snow!! +was true for several years straight +>>noooo it's flooding and there's too much snow! +Also true- tho no one is claiming too much snow yet. + +Weather (and climate) whiplash. Ca is a land of extremes and has fascinting geopgraphy and weather +--- 2559218 +>>2549523 (OP) +Going in May in a really high snow year is quite ballsy. Don't be surprised if you come across rivers that are too sketchy to cross, and don't be too proud too turn around. + +God speed OP. +--- 2559220 +>>2553640 +>permit to use a public trail +>permit to have a campfire +--- 2559224 +>>2559220 +Why does /out/ have retards like this who insist on making their presence known? +--- 2559259 +>>2559224 +Do you have a permit for that post +--- 2559762 +>Record breaking snowpack levels, more coming +>No alpine mountaineering skills or even basic snow safety, plans to learn “on the way” +>Clearly lacks risk tolerance, ignoring advice from experienced individuals because “le epic adventure spirit!” +>Will inevitably fall through a snow bridge while taking a “shortcut” +>Won’t be recovered until bleached femur is spotted 20 years later by a job corps trail worker + +Not all who wander are lost OP! When CalGuard SAR birds are doing laps over my house in June, I’ll think of you:) +--- 2559831 +>>2559762 +>Not all who wander are lost OP! When CalGuard SAR birds are doing laps over my house in June, I’ll think of you:) +atleast you're thinking about me :) +cant say the same about you +--- 2559947 +>>2559216 +Climate whiplash? Is the glacier that carved Yosemite coming back? Dinosaur cars melted it, didn’t they! +--- 2561981 +>>2559831 +CLUTCH +--- 2562006 +>>2559218 +>May +Look at the date of his post retard +--- 2562024 +>>2562006 +This. It's better to start in March and finish by late August. +--- 2562079 +>>2549523 (OP) +>>2551900 +Hiked it and '17 and had the time of my life, just get out there, everybody will tell you to skip the Sierras "Muh not passable, can't through hike this year". +Just get up there and see it for yourself take a lot of food (carried 10 days worth out of kearsage pass). If you can't make a river crossing just turn around, don't cross if you're not comfortable just make camp and look for a besser crossing the next day. +Will be hard and painful but so rewarding being among a handfull of people trying to make their way across. +--- 2562505 +If your tramily gets bogged down in deep snow, pretend you're the Donner party and eat each other. +--- 2562515 +>>2562079 +Oh don't be bosh, anon. Of course he can do it! Hannibal crossed the Alps with less didn't he? +--- 2564640 +this is a shitpoast thread +bump +--- 2566547 +>>2559762 +>he couldn't respond to this +Kwab +--- 2566594 +>>2559762 +>Won’t be recovered until bleached femur is spotted 20 years later by a job corps trail worker +what a kino way to go +--- 2566699 +>>2562505 +How about you kill yourself you miserable dweeb diff --git a/out/2549680.txt b/out/2549680.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..641a7b1f1421d3f0590dd99f0831c69bcd36522e --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2549680.txt @@ -0,0 +1,149 @@ +----- +--- 2549680 +How do I build the stamina for longer hikes? I usually go on about a 1 mile hike, never actually finish a trail, I just start it and get to a certain point, lose my energy, and come back the way I came. I want to actually finish a trail. + +What would you suggest? +--- 2549681 +>>2549680 (OP) +You know what they say. Practice is worthless. +--- 2549685 +>>2549680 (OP) +Go on hikes more often. Run/exercise. How the fuck do you give up at 1 mile? Even when I was an obese loser retard on my first hike I could at least do 8-12 miles a day. +--- 2549686 +>>2549680 (OP) +Just finish the trail? Bring a snack, take a break, finish the trail. How the hell can't you finish a 1 mile hike? I don't even eat before hand and just run off ketosis for a couple miles with a loaded pack (max fat loss) until I finish and then I get a nice big lunch. +--- 2549789 +>>2549681 +I always heard it as: +Practice makes permanent +>>2549685 +This--walk atleast 5k a day. Start adding weight and distance as it gets easier. +--- 2549795 +>>2549680 (OP) +>How do I build the stamina for longer hikes? +you hike more + +>I just start it and get to a certain point, lose my energy +bring a snack +--- 2549824 +>>2549680 (OP) +Shitty bait +--- 2549825 +>>2549680 (OP) +>What would you suggest? +posting more on here should help +--- 2549966 +>>2549680 (OP) +Try a bit of caffeine before you start out to give you a boost of energy. Some folks drink coffee, others an energy drink like Monster or Red Bull, for serious exercise hikes you could do pre workout supplements. The best and only way to build stamina is to do the activity you want to build stamina. So hiking, long distance walking, or running. Running is the best but it sucks starting out. +--- 2550072 +>holy shit glen what's wrong with your face! +--- 2550340 +>>2549680 (OP) +This isn't the hobby for you. +You just finish the fucking trail. Everyone of us gets tired sometimes, if it's bad you sit down and rest a moment. +I don't know any regular hiker who gets the impulse to bail in the middle of a hike. If you're that kinda person I don't think you'll ever find much joy in backpacking. +--- 2551735 +>>2549680 (OP) +If you are not actually larping good on you for exercising use a tracker watch gradually over each week increase it by steps keep hydrated have everything you need to be prepared in the uk we carry knifes because of joggers +--- 2551792 +practice, start small, increase volume by 10% a week, have a rest week every 4th week where you cut volume by 50% +--- 2551793 +>>2549824 +nu-/out/ will still bump the thread relentlessly +--- 2551809 +You go until you can't go anymore then you hope your survival instinct gets you back out. If you don't make it you get weeded out the population. +It's how we've always done it +--- 2551810 +>>2549680 (OP) +>1 mile +that's not a hike. start walking to the grocery store, the pharmacist, the hardware store, wherever. +--- 2551827 +just run you dumb nigger +--- 2551834 +>>2549685 +Even when I was an obese loser retard on my first hike I could at least do 8-12 miles a day. +Same. Well, almost the same, because when I was young I was in great condition, and I hiked tons in the 90s and early 2000s. In between then, I joined the rat race and became an obese loser. + +A few years back, in my mid-30s, fat and out of shape, I could carry a loaded daypack uphill 4-5 miles and then back down again, and feel fine. I shudder to think what kind of shape OP must be in to give up at the 1-mile mark, what the fuck? +--- 2551837 +Hike less, you're over doing it by going a friggin mile +--- 2551960 +>>2549680 (OP) +Sounds like you have a horrific diet and probably some other health problems, maybe anemia, and bad sleep, or something. Get your health sorted out dude. +--- 2554096 +>>2551793 +Bump! +--- 2554911 +I was embarrassed to post a 1 mile trail run on Strava because I thought it wasn't long enough to post +--- 2554914 +>>2549680 (OP) +>1 mile hike +That's not a hike. That's a stroll. +--- 2554975 +>>2554911 +Rightfully so, lad. You should be embarrassed about one mile. +--- 2555145 +Thank you anon, I thought the trail would be longer (it wasn't mapped on Strava and only loosely tracked on all trails) I ended up doing two laps then realized it was a shit excuse for a trail and left. +--- 2556896 +>>2549680 (OP) +>1 mile +american car culture is at fault +--- 2557463 +>>2549680 (OP) +Jimmy Carr has aged terribly +--- 2557483 +>>2549680 (OP) +jenny craig diet? +--- 2559489 +>>2551827 +Need to do stair climbers too +--- 2559494 +>>2549680 (OP) +Don't usually visit this board, but I'd assume having a good diet? +--- 2559875 +>>2549680 (OP) +Just give up at the end and walk back +--- 2559938 +You just walk bro. I was fat as fuck but walked 5 miles a day for a couple months and then went on my first backpacking trip ever across Glacier NP weighing 380lbs. I crossed paths with an Australian couple at the top of a pass and heard them saying "even the hikers are fat" while they were walking away. +--- 2560025 +>>2549680 (OP) +>1 mile +Do you mean 10 miles because 1 is like a first graders way to school or a shopping trip.Giving up that quickly can't possibly be an energy thing outside of serious health issues, it's a you-hate-it thing. Or do you use an aid to get around inside your home? + +Take it easy and make it easy: Start early, wear old sneakers and sweater istead of whatever you just bought for hiking, bring fruit and oats for snacking, drink enough, take breaks whenever you feel like it, bring friends to talk to or some music/podcast to listen to when bored. +--- 2560505 +>>2549680 (OP) +>How do I build the stamina for longer hikes? + +By reading 4chan and watching youtube videos about /out/ stuff. +--- 2560916 +>>2549680 (OP) +gotta eat your way through to the other side of this issue +--- 2562344 +>>2549680 (OP) +Each day, put a dollar in a jar. When you finish a trail you get all the money in the jar. This is a good way to save up for smokes. +--- 2564290 +>>2562344 +'tarded +--- 2564714 +>>2559938 +That's fucked up. Sorry, bro. +--- 2564726 +>>2559938 +Lmao fuckin cunts +--- 2566317 +Jump rope might help. +--- 2566326 +>>2559938 +i'm still 20kg overweight and walk 20mile hikes. +it's just a mental thing in my opinion +--- 2566593 +>>2549680 (OP) +Keep walking as long as you can into the woods. When you get tired, take a rest, eat a granola bar, then walk further until you're tired. Only then may you turn around. +--- 2566606 +>>2549680 (OP) +>What would you suggest? +just fucking finish it you lazy cunt +stop giving up +--- 2566610 +Do a treadmill test then get some stents. If you run out of energy after a mile it's something medical. diff --git a/out/2550045.txt b/out/2550045.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..78db0a5870b09bc2054c9b1619f7c9e89633b301 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2550045.txt @@ -0,0 +1,302 @@ +----- +--- 2550045 +so how do you get into urbex? any types of locations i should start with? +--- 2550048 +>>2550045 (OP) +>so how do you get into urbex? +you walk into abandoned places +>any types of locations i should start with? +abandoned places near you + +what the fuck is wrong with zoomers man, rub two of your brain cells together for a second and think of how retarded the question you're asking is. there's nothing difficult or spiritual or mental about urban exploration, you just walk around. no one's going to shoot you on sight unless you walk into a drug den, or nigger. the worst thing that happens in most cases is security or police show up and ask you to leave +--- 2550052 +>>2550048 +>just walk in to abandoned places surrounded by security dude +retard. also i was asking what type of places to start with, not how to fucking explore +--- 2550053 +>>2550052 +>abandoned +>security +if it's abandoned there isn't security, and they won't do shit except ask you to leave. start with exploring a coffin, how fucking stupid do you have to be to ask "where do i go to look at stuff?" +--- 2550055 +>>2550053 +>if it's abandoned there isn't security, and they won't do shit except ask you to leave. +you just said abandoned buildings don't have security and then proceeded to say they do. come up with better bait next time +--- 2550153 +>>2550048 +>zoomers +>two brain cells +Well there's the problem right there, anon +--- 2550156 +>>2550053 +>>2550048 +^Ignore this faggot +First of all, get boots that don´t get pierced by nails and glass. Extremely important. +Then, get an asbestos mask. This may sound overkill, but if you explore some half rotting, half collapsed building that hasn´t been touched in years, you´re gonna create a lot of dust, and things may shift, causing asbestos to be set free. +It doesn´t take a lot of asbestos to fuck you up. I´m not saying get a full-on gas mask, but get a 3M classified for asbestos. Shouldn´t be more than 20 bucks. +Then, the biggest factor on how much fun you´re gonna have, is where you live. If you live in a shithole, there´s a good chance you can see 10 abandonned buildings just by looking outside of your window. +If you live in a 1st world country, you´ll probably have to find a community. +There´s also Google-Maps community maps, with thousands of locations, but you gotta have connections for people to give you permission to view those, because in 1st world countries, the urbex folks are all paranoid, because of vandalism and subhuman graffitti niggers. +I used to be on facebook communities, but barely anyone uses facebook anymore, so I don´t know how it´s done now. +You also might wanna have wellies, and in really shady structures a hard-hat. +Also, tell people close to you where you´re going. +IF you live in Germany, I can give you a couple of locations. +--- 2550259 +>>2550156 +thanks for the advice anon. i do have have decent boots, just no gas mask. i'm not in germany though i'm in canada. i looked online to see if i could find any local urbex groups but didn't find much. +--- 2550723 +>>2550156 +Other anon, I guess you're talking about that urbex elite photo Databank. Do you have any cool locations in brandenburg? Been going to lots of military bases and want to go to Kaserne kummersdorf next but there seems to be a lot of activity around there. Do you know anything as big as the one in Luckenwalde but with just as lax security? +--- 2551172 +>>2550723 +To the West-South-West of Brandeburg, there´s some kind of Halbinsel, and there seem to be 6 different spots just there. +I´ll just send you the Maps-Image, because they are so close together, that you should be able to find them. I don´t know if they´re all still active though, some of them aren´t updated regularly. +The place is called Kirchmöser, but I guess if you live near Brandeburg, you may know it already. +No idea about the quality of those places either. With those maps, you never really know. +--- 2551287 +>>2550723 +https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=50.49212685160942%2C10.61952298736152&z=7&mid=1M6OeH-DCWCLHGLQ2_CiGPd0aO7IjPHqo +Here's the database, in case any euro anons are interested +--- 2551310 +>>2551287 +>euros +FUCK! +--- 2551494 +>>2550156 +do you also have some interesting Locations in Northrine Westphalia or close to NRW? +--- 2551611 +>>2550045 (OP) +every city has storm drains. every industrial area has abandoned buildings. look at infiltration.org for inspiration, they're from toronto +--- 2551667 +If you live in a deindustrialized shithole like I do, a good way to start finding places is to use Google maps satellite view and look along railroads. The website abandonedrails.com is a great respurce for US railroad locations. Within approximately 15 min of looking around the outskirts of any medium sized city I can find one. Once you think that youve found a place, try to see it in person before you dive in. Holes in fences, boards on windows, old graffiti, lack of vehicles, and overgrown vegetation are good signs that a place is thoroughly abandonded. Picrel is from a town that I've never been to and randomly chose (Erie Pennsylvania) which I found in about 10 minutes. IMO the best way to stay safe is to take a trusted friend with you. GL and have fun out there +--- 2552091 +>>2551494 +there's a steel factory near Krefeld or düsseldorf I went to in 2010. plenty of scaling or climbing activity. However I think they added a movie theater inside the old factory. Still worth a visit. +--- 2552092 +>>2550048 +Imma give you some advice, choch. You can leave the board at any time. No one will miss you. +--- 2552164 +>>2551287 +Great, thanks for this. +Can I save this in Google maps? +--- 2552165 +>>2551667 +Ever had any issues with homeless people squatting? +--- 2552516 +>>2552165 +Fairly often you'll sew signs of squatters like mattresses and litter in abandonded industrial areas, but running into people is exceptionally rare. It's only happened to me twice. Once saw a guy just watching us from a window, a very old man whoshouted at us to go away while we were in a parking lot looking for a way to get inside. We just turned around and left without any issue. The last thing that the types of people who live in abonded buildings want is to be seen and kicked out, so they really just try to avoid everyone. You're probably more likely to get assaulted by a crack addict in a gas station parking lot than inside some old factory. +--- 2552535 +>>2550045 (OP) +Start looking around for abandoned places when you are out and about, theres probably more than you think. For me, especially old factories were easy to find. Be aware that a lot of places have been trashed by young people/homeless. A lot of glass on the floor, i would always go wearing a thick soled shoe. Also drug needles. Thick padded running shoes and clothing makes you look more like a guy that took a wrong turn or just "got curious" and had a look in the building while out running rather than someone dangerous. You want to be mindful of safety, bring flashlight and phone to call for help, be careful what you step on as wooden floors can be rotten through or stairs can collapse. Be aware of your enviroment. But usually its okay. Ive never met any, but theres been homeless people sleeping at most of the ones ive seen at some point so far, its a decent sign in some ways because then the place is truly abandoned, you´d want to make sure that there isnt anyone comming to check on the building. The asbestos advice from the other anon is probably a good idea. +--- 2552560 +>>2550045 (OP) +I enjoy urbex (especially abandoned malls) and have followed various related YouTube channels for years, and you know what I've noticed? Unless it's an amusement park, urbex happens inside of a building--literally indoors--in 99% of cases. Why the fuck are you posting about it on /out/doors? Do city idiots think that any venue not in a cubicle, apartment, or restaurant counts as "outside"? +--- 2552563 +>>2552560 +>>2552092 +--- 2553022 +>>2550259 +Where in Canada? +--- 2553102 +>>2552560 +No, the complexes I go to require me to walk there since I have no car and are very big and make me walk around a lot. I spend more time going from building to building than actually inside them. +https://mega.nz/folder/d0cHEAha#PcfPeU7PGkZ9Yazc08GlIA +Link related it's one of the places I was at where I was constantly outside going on a hike. +Also I'd like to argue that this thread has more of a reason to exist than yet another gearthread where the people posting in them don't even go outside +--- 2553245 +>>2550045 (OP) +Just make sure that you have good boots and wear gloves. The last thing you want is to get tetanus by cutting yourself on a piece of rusty metal. +--- 2553247 +>>2553245 +>that filename +--- 2555044 +>>2550048 +I'm going to bump the thread just because you're being a nonce. +--- 2555247 +>>2551172 +Sweet place, went there today was is very good condition I can only recommend the town. I also met an old couple that used to work at the place and they told me a bit about the town. +Here's the pics +https://mega.nz/folder/11Eg1Qjb#KzWPzn4YK8UPO2396ZwY_g +Do you guys think megar folders are a good way of sharing trips or pics? +It's just easier for me as there is no file limit and I don't have to upload them all +--- 2556075 +>>2550045 (OP) +old buildings near roads that connect two cities +--- 2556179 +>>2550052 +>>2550045 (OP) +>>2550055 +OP, you are an insufferable retard. +--- 2556188 +>>2550156 +This. I got in on a Facebook group that did paid trips. A girl roped me into it. From there I was able to meet people and stop paying. That shit is gay. They'd organize shit to justify the cost but I never wanted that in the first place. + +Do the mask. Be paranoid about danger. I had a friend fall through a factory floor that looked good, but it wasn't. He fucked up his leg and we had to drag him out of there. Be careful. This shit is as dangerous if not more than exploring abandoned mines if you act stupid. +--- 2556460 +>>2552560 +Now pls KYS autistic faggot +--- 2556528 +>>2550048 +Based. They're mad but they needed to hear this. +--- 2557557 +>>2550045 (OP) +honest to god, people gatekeep so fucking hard it's stupid as fuck. +The sentiment is to keep people from destroying beautiful abandoned places, which is understandable, but it's still fucking stupid. +From what I've heard: +- post proof of any expeditions you go on to give yourself credibility and ask around +- use google for your location +- use google maps and follow rivers/train tracks +- use wikimapia +- join random urbex discords from tiktok urbexers and ask around +- DON'T FUCKING DESTROY THE PLACES +best of luck to you + +The best places I've found, I just pay attention while I drive around and look for ladders, anywhere there's graffiti (means there's a way up), and yeah just peel your eyes and look around sometimes it's just obvious. +Ignore the gatekeeping seethe virgins, this is a hobby that should be spread, just not to autistic middle school edgelords. +--- 2557558 +>>2550048 +dude fuck off +it's hard to get into this especially if you don't know where to look or don't know what's abandoned. quit seething + +>>2550156 +Thank you for the solid advice! I think I'll go get myself these things now I didn't realize I should get them. genuine :) +--- 2557561 +>>2553102 +Nice! Where is this? +--- 2557562 +>>2555247 +GOD DAMN is this german????? +--- 2557651 +>>2555247 +Did you go there because of my recommendation, or was it just a coincidence? +--- 2557652 +>>2555247 +Nice pictures btw. +I wonder what´s up with that boat... +And I totally would have stolen that Polizeiautotüre. +--- 2557664 +>>2557561 +>>2557562 +It's an old industry town called kirchmöser, it's also discussed previously in the thread + +>>2557651 +I'm this anon >>2550723 so I looked into it after you send the location. I wasn't convinced at first but after I looked at it from street view it looked pretty dope. Thanks for the recommendation. +If you got any more I'd be happy to look into this as well. But I'm probably not going to go there within the next two weeks. + +>>2557652 +Well there was a trash yard with a bunch of cars close by so I think they just used it to store their boat. +I also would have liked to take that door but I'm on foot. The place also looked like there were gypsies living there so I just didn't enter cuz I don't want any trouble with them. +--- 2557742 +>>2557561 +Shit sorry that actually near Luckenwalde. It's called Adolf Hitler Lager or 3. Lager it's to the south of the town. Just put on Google Street view and the place with a bunch of blue is where it's at +--- 2559036 +How can I find new places to explore? My friends aren't interested in urbex and I generally don't like meeting new people. Are there any good sites or forums for abandoned places? +--- 2559577 +Does anyone know if there is a way to search Google Maps for places marked "permanently closed"? This would be a really good way to find locations. + +>>2559036 +Satellite maps. Check newspapers for closed businesses and the like. Pick up on patterns: where places typically get abandoned where you live. +--- 2559605 +>>2551287 +shit man, as an eurofag who wants to get into urbex this really is a gold mine + +thank you anon +--- 2559660 +>>2551287 +Thanks man. +So many places in Belgium getting demolished lately so it's been a pain keeping track. + +>>2559605 +This one has a few as well although it's getting less reliable with the updates. +https://www.urbex.nl/locations-by-category/ +I've been to a few that were closed or gone completely so better get moving if you wanna see 'em. + +I'd be keen to meet up with similarly minded folks in Europe to go exploring. +I know a few spots around my town that are worth checking out but only if you're in the area. + +>picrel - Sanitorium Du Basil in Wallonia +--- 2559664 +>>2550045 (OP) +The state of 15yr old /out faggots +--- 2559665 +>>2559660 +Not sure why it's flipped but here's the whole facade in case anyone's interested. +--- 2559668 +>>2551287 +all those places are trash +--- 2559807 +>>2559668 +KYS faggot you´re trash. +--- 2559837 +>>2550048 +>what the fuck is wrong with zoomers man, rub two of your brain cells together for a second and think of how retarded the question you're asking is. there's nothing difficult or spiritual or mental about urban exploration, you just walk around +--- 2560523 +>>2559660 +>I'd be keen to meet up with similarly minded folks in Europe to go exploring. + +thanks for the resources mate. I'd like to meet people to go urbex too, but unfortunately I'm stuck wagecucking in Italy. I usually go on the weekends if I have enough free time. If this thread is still up I'll give updates if I visit any of the linked locations +--- 2561092 +I travel around and do this around the world +https://gopro.com/v/572zN9bVovWXz +--- 2561093 +>>2560523 +Pisa has a cool factory just watch out I met a homeless guy +--- 2561098 +>>2550048 +This guy is correct you have to just go out and look you can spot pretty easy if s place is abandoned and every building I've been hasn't had security that's mostly big places you see on the internet that's why people gatekeep locations so retards don't ruin it for the rest of us +--- 2561530 +I like setting up creepy scenes in these places +--- 2561536 +>>2556179 +If you don't like it then stop posting. +--- 2561657 +>>2559807 +seethe +--- 2561673 +>>2561530 +This is cool. Like found art experience/sculpture. Would love to find this and light the candles. More? +--- 2561731 +I had a dream last night i was trapped in an abandoned school I was exploring with friends and a tornado came and lifted up the building and everyone died except for me. Then I woke up and got a tornado alert on my phone. I felt like Michael Shannon but we didn't get jack shit anyway +--- 2562707 +Abandoned car dealership today +--- 2562827 +>>2550045 (OP) +>how do you get into urbex? +You don't . Stay on the interwebz and leave the /out/doors for the rest of us +--- 2562830 +>>2562707 +I'm getting The Long Dark vibes with that scene +--- 2563223 +I wish I had a lockpick yhe prices eurotard pay fr Levi's I would loot this In a heartbeat +--- 2563226 +>>2550052 +>>2550045 (OP) +any location you can find info online sucks or doesn't exist anymore. +people either ransack those spots or the owners shut it down because of the traffic. +learn to find your own spots or meet someone local who will show you shit. learn your area's history. that's a good starting point for finding out what kinds of places might exist abandoned and be worth checking out. google earth is pretty nifty too. +--- 2563362 +Nestolgic booba +--- 2563714 +>>2550048 +This guy has a point +--- 2566075 +>>2563362 +damn they weren't lying, those shits are pointy +--- 2566179 +>>2561673 +Unfortunately someone did light the candles and started a fire +--- 2568432 +>>2559660 +Belgian anon here, I'd be interested in meeting up with you if you don't live too far. I live near Antwerp in Flanders. + +>So many places in Belgium getting demolished lately +Real, recently visited that famous HFB factory in Liege again and those demolition faggots are making progress. +--- 2568453 +>>2551287 +Danke :) +--- 2568499 +>>2551287 +Is there anything like this for US locations? +--- 2568510 +>>2550045 (OP) +Everywhere the crackheads also go when they do heavy tweaking. Urbex is composed of crackheads, taggers, and hikers with mental illness. diff --git a/out/2550817.txt b/out/2550817.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6c37210fa80961b17d6cf44fc43a77112aa0dee4 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2550817.txt @@ -0,0 +1,355 @@ +----- +--- 2550817 +any /out/ist have any handicaps? ranging from hayfever to more serious things? +--- 2550820 +>>2550817 (OP) +If you count crippling autism and schizophrenia; then 90% of this board is disabled. +Include retardation, and it’s 99.9999% (I’m the exception, obviously:) ) +--- 2550823 +>>2550820 +>obviously +--- 2550824 +>>2550817 (OP) +of course, schizophrenia, autism, and terminal mental retardation. speaking for myself, I don't know what everyone else's deal is +--- 2550831 +>>2550817 (OP) +I herniated a disc in my back years ago and need to take a short break to stretch every once in a while. No big deal really, but I don't do long hikes through rough territory anymore. +--- 2550850 +autism and brain damage +--- 2551226 +>>2550817 (OP) +I have been diagnosed with SGMS (sluggish gluteus maximus syndrome, aka laziness of the ass) that greatly impacts my ability to enjoy the outdoors. I have applied to get governmental support. +--- 2551235 +>>2550817 (OP) +I've had knee surgery and my back and joints are all fucked up from a decade of physical labor. I've got a genetic collagen issue that makes my joints all loose. It means I get tired more easily and will be in pain before anyone else. You suck it up and deal with it. I'm 30. I'm way more stiff than people my age with the same activity level. I have to train harder than my peers and it does more damage to my body. + +I take breaks when I need them and don't do physical activities unless it "feels" right. Still go scrambling in boulder fields in the middle of nowhere. I don't let anyone rush me. Know your limits and be realistic with yourself. +--- 2551248 +>>2550817 (OP) +I have horrendous allergies 3/4 of the year for most of my life, peaking from 2017-2022. I have no clue what changed but this year I have barely needed any anti-histamine, whereas before winter time was the only period I had a break. Usually I was taking ephedrine daily to cope with the intense inflammation and fatigue, last year even needing albuterol to beat lung inflammation back. For those of you who have similar circumstances, I tried some nasal spray with xylitol for about 2 months to kill any fungal growth in my sinuses and that may or may not have helped. I did most of my outdoors during the winter when everything was dead but maybe this year I can finally enjoy some spring/summer time. +--- 2551252 +I’m diabetic. The real disease not the fat people ailment. My energy levels are not what they should be and I have to carry a lot of extra stuff as well as manage a lot of extra economies as I hike. Long trips are significantly more complicated. But I get into all national parks for free so there’s that +--- 2551256 +>>2551248 +Not nearly as bad for me but I was perpetually sniffly until I discovered fluticasone spray. Before that I would just pop a benadryl and power through the drowsiness, one time I got it so bad I could barely see because my eyes were basically flooded. +--- 2551259 +i have Osteopetrosis, essentially, my bones are garbage. +so i go slower on descents, and take less risks of falling +--- 2551265 +I have nerve damage all down the left side of my ribcage and my stress level has an impact on its severity. When I'm /out/ the pain is greatly diminished to the point I forget that I have to take my pain meds. +--- 2551266 +>>2551256 +that's like afrin right? Those things have crazy rebound friend. The one thing that killed all my symptoms for a short time was prednisone, and I felt the best I had in 10 years but the problem is those drugs rape your immune system. + +Its honestly a balance between symptom management and not being on poisonous drugs. Most of my symptoms were concentrated in my nose and chest, with the chest issue being aggravated by post nasal drip. Have you dried drugs with psuedo/regular ephedrine before? It clears up chest and nose like no other and obviously has no drowsiness but its bad for your heart long term. +--- 2551272 +>>2551266 +Supposedly doesn't cause rebound, can give me a nasty sore throat though if I'm not careful in administering. +>Its honestly a balance between symptom management and not being on poisonous drugs +I agree, I've taken to drinking more tea as a result. Mucinex does wonders for my chest congestion but I think that's a result of my former weed habit. +--- 2551361 +>>2551259 +Do you sink in water? Did it influence your facial bones? That's a rare one. +--- 2551401 +I have really shitty eyes, both of them are around -12. +--- 2551632 +>>2551361 +>Do you sink in water? +no not really, used to do a lot of swimming when i was younger +>Did it influence your facial bones? +no, i am short though, and my right leg is slightly shorter then my left but not enough to cause problems + +i mainly just have complications from old fractures and the hospital are starting to check my blood more due to increasing levels of iron, for some reason, actually have a honest to god bloodletting session next week to see if that helps lol +>That's a rare one. +yea, its pretty shit, but hey, never lived without it so i cant say! +--- 2551633 +the outdoors should be accessible to all +--- 2551643 +>>2550817 (OP) +I have erectile dysfunction, does that count? +--- 2551658 +>>2551643 +i mean, could indicate blood circulation issues, so ... i guess +--- 2551856 +>>2550850 +how did you get Brian damage? +--- 2551859 +speech impediment. being alone in the wilderness is the only place i dont constantly feel like a reject +--- 2551867 +>>2551859 +stay strong king +--- 2552048 +>>2551856 +>> Brian damage +--- 2552069 +>>2550817 (OP) +I've got PTSD, Fibromyalgia and some other mental disorders which nobody will believe me if I said them +However, mobility aids like walking sticks or trekking poles are more or less normalized while outdoors so I can use my mobility aids without lookin like a 22 year old faker +Being /out/ actually really helps with my PTSD for obvious reasons. I think the best part of it is when there's no internet and whoever you're going with (or if you're just going solo) has to be in the moment and can't text their 500 fuckboys on snapchat or whatever and you can actually have normal interactions with them +--- 2552110 +>>2552069 +How did ypu get PTSD, if ypu don't mind me asking? I have a friend, tank driver, military man through and through, and he always says he just doesn't know who he is when not deployed so he just keeps signing up for tours, making music helps him though, top bloke +--- 2552130 +>>2552069 +>Fibromyalgia +45-year-old hypochondriac roastie detected +--- 2552267 +>>2552110 +Serial neglect, my 3 older siblings beat the shit out of me and I wasn't ever allowed to have friends growing up +>>2552130 +I'm 22 and chronic pain is a bitch +I still rock climb tho but it fucking sucks when walking to and from classes makes me want to curl up into a ball and die +--- 2552306 +>>2551252 +Anon I'm a type 1 and feel great. Take better care of yourself or else the fat type 2s win. Also how do you get into parks for free? +--- 2552471 +>>2552306 + +The cardiovascular strain from lifetime elevated A1C is measurable and impactful. I’m still faster and stronger than most people but it’s a handicap none the less. For the card, We’re covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act. Go to a local ranger station and fill out a piece of paper, they give you a card then and there. Free admittance and vehicle access to all national parks for life. +--- 2552498 +>>2550817 (OP) +I have arm pain, probably RSI with tendinosis +Day hikes are kino but I’m not getting a pair of trekking poles anytime soon +A shame, really, because for some summit hikes here, one good wind blast could push you over the edge for 1000' roll downhill +Had to chicken out and not go because it was windy one day +--- 2552536 +>>2552267 +>I wasn't ever allowed to have friends growing up +Jehovas Witnesses or something? shit bro, stay strong +--- 2552541 +>>2550817 (OP) +Not so much a handicap but I have ADHD and when I go hiking it normally takes me forever to do a hike because I always get distracted looking at cool shit. Sometimes quite literally shit. Like whenever I see wombat's shit I will intently stare at it and try to figure out how old it is and where this wombat is going and what he ate. + +My gf usually has to force me to keep going +--- 2552572 +>>2552541 +>80HD +--- 2552727 +>>2552536 +If it were from a cult or something, I'd at least have some fingers to point, but nope my parents were just that fucking evil +--- 2552739 +>>2552541 +>says he has ADHD +>also says he gets so focused looking at shit that someone has to move him along +I have good news and bad news +--- 2552795 +Depression. I almost killed myself on my last outing. +--- 2552827 +>>2552795 +do you have any support structure around you? please reach out +--- 2552829 +>>2550817 (OP) +>https://youtu.be/5zyNkSsA3-s [Embed] +--- 2552842 +Just the normal crippling back pain from living a life of outdoor sports and working like a motherfucker in the outdoors. Athletes die twice. +--- 2552850 +>>2552795 +Chemical or environmental? I was in a fucking horrendous state until I started going back to Church. +--- 2552937 +>>2552541 +same here, it's insane how stimulating nature is. I would've thought I'd find it much more boring than normal people do, but no, I can just sit forever listening to the subtlest of sounds or go around looking for lichens or some shit. +--- 2552952 +autism, the diagnosed kind not the everyone is a schizo autist retard I wanna feel special kind mentioned in 2550820 +--- 2552956 +>>2552572 +For me it's A HD TV +>>2552739 +I have always had a hyper focused fascination with animals and nature. +>>2552937 +It's so comfy +--- 2552960 +Yes, I have insomnia and when I am /out/ the shadow people don't come for me, rather its just a friendly night animal like a wombat or possum looking for some bread +--- 2552962 +>>2550817 (OP) +my right elbow is fucked. i cant straighten that arm at all. its not painful tho so ive learned to live with it. + +also im deadly allergic to cats. entered the tent of a cat owner and withing 30min was wheezing & dying. real shame cos i like cats +--- 2553182 +>>2552962 +we used to have a cat as kid, my dad loved it and it loved him, would sleep on him on the couch and genuinely be worried if he didnt come home, but then he became allergic. +thankfully it could be taken by my moms sisters friend and it is now in South Africa, it still reacts seeing my dad on facetime calls though +--- 2554098 +not strictly /out/ but a pretty funny moment yesterday, i´m going in to get my blood tapped, for increased levels of iron in my blood, liver and heart. +i stroll in, not really giving a shit because i am completely desensitized to hospital stuff at this point, just sit down on a chair, now this dawns on me, this is not just a blood test, when i see the size of the needle. +eh, fuck it whatever. +in comes another patient, guy, maybe mid forties, former military, nervous as fuck, and im just telling stories, feeling the warm red juice leaving my body, and i notice im slurring my words + +and i fucking black out, one second a cute medical student is taking my blood, next 3 doctors + +at least i got a yoghurts and apple juice, worst part is that they think they might need to do that either once a week or every seccond week +--- 2554103 +>>2554098 +me to tough army guy +>nothing to worry about! + +>proceeds to pass out and bleed everywhere +who am i, where am i? orange juice? yea nice! +--- 2554491 +>>2551252 +Same, always pack way more food than I need but all the same, the worry of a serious low out in the backcountry haunts me. +--- 2554495 +>>2552471 +you get a discount on camping/use permits on most federal land as well. Recreation/gov website will let you input your America the Beautiful access pass when checking out. +--- 2554638 +>>2554098 +Where’s all the iron coming from? Are you going to have to do this forever, or just until your iron levels get normal and stay there? +--- 2554652 +>>2554638 +>Where’s all the iron coming from? +i eat a bowl of nails for breakfast, no lol, its just that my body doesnt get rid of it like normal, so its probably been piling up for years +>Are you going to have to do this forever, or just until your iron levels get normal and stay there? +first we are going to see if we can get it to normal levels, then more test to see if it rises again, then probably forever +--- 2555060 +I had pretty damn bad eyesight, -7,5 in both eyes. +I had to wear bottle-end thick eyeglasses, and if I misplaced or lost them, I was seriously limited on what I could do. + +Took a femtolasik laser surgery and now my eyesight is good enough that I could get a pilots license without any need for glasses. +Best damn thing I ever got. really felt like I was out of crutches. +Best part is that even if shit hits the fan and I go completly broke and bankrupt, the repo-men will NOT take my eyes back. +--- 2555177 +>>2550817 (OP) +Forgot to tie my bootlaces once, left fly unzipped one morning, also once went for a hike with a haircut I ended up not really being in love love with so I would say adversity and I are old comrades. Rise above. Be the change you believe in want to seeing. +--- 2555401 +>>2550817 (OP) +Does browsing 4Chan count? +--- 2556758 +>>2555401 +that would be the free square in the /out/ disability bingo card +--- 2557493 +Does mental shit count? +I have a shit-ton of mental illnesses. But that all wouldn´t matter, if I didn´t have Agroaphobia. +I literally can´t leave my home for a distance longer than 30 minutes, or else I get panic attacks, to the point of fainting and/or throwing up. +I can´t do shit. I have all this gear, even though it´s just milsurp, and I can´t put it to use because my faggot brain decides to become an absolute retard the second I step outside. +My entire life is a fucking prison. I want to get a motorcycle, travel the Balkans on it, camping in the wild... +Can´t do anything. I´m working on it though, if I feel up to the task. +I go on walks in the night sometimes, and I try to self medicate with a root-powder called Ashwaganda, and it really helps. +I hope someday I´ll get over this fucking shit. I really hate sitting at home my whole life. +--- 2557516 +I've got mild cerebral palsy in my legs, but when medicated it's not too bad. I can walk almost as much as much as the next person (but it never feels like much fun). When people say "I've got bad knees" and they actually mean it, that's about the level I'm at. + +As long as I don't walk too far while out, or carry too much weight, I'll be fine. +--- 2557617 +>>2557493 +Just find a way to procure a few acres in remote territory and work remotely, that way your land is just an extension of your home. Any trespassers spell icup with their life and you get to live in solitude with nature. +--- 2557646 +>>2557617 +Thanks for the advice, but I live in cucked Germany. +And my mental health makes it impossible for me to hold a job long enough to save up money. +But I´m sure things will get better, and I´ll get out of this. +Even though I´ve been severely mentally ill for almost 20 years now. Started in my early teens. +But I´m working on it. My next step is getting a drivers license. That way I´ll use my car as some kind of FOB, to retreat to whenever I get panic attacks. +Key is never giving up, and I don´t plan on doing so. +--- 2557985 +>>2557646 +God is good anon. Keep pushing through the bullshit. Go outside and hold the beautiful German soil in your hands for me and I'm not even kidding, doesn't even matter if you're in a city and that soil comes from a tree planted next to the curb. I owe half of my blood to that land, we're here talking over 4chan but connected to a a greater tree a thousand years before. Isn't it incredible? We are blessed in such small ways that its honestly hard to see them as we try and trudge through the tough day to day grind made even more difficult by our personal illnesses and issues. + +We'll make it brother. Don't give up. +--- 2559418 +>>2551248 +This may sound like a meme but before I always had pretty bad allergies (tonsillitis) but when I started taking purely cold showers around 6-7 months ago it drastically reduced my fatigue. I think it has to do with regulating body temperature. That and I also stopped drinking coca cola sodas and much less soda in general and I started drinking a bunch of water and I feel pretty normal. +--- 2561013 +>>2555177 +kek +--- 2561903 +>>2559418 +I drink yogitea (original) right now. Just one bag for like 1.5-2 Liters. It's pretty awesome. +--- 2561905 +>>2561903 +Oh, I also got an amputated right leg. +I'm to ambitious with walking actually, so my doc told me to keep it light on walking. +I'll get a new prosthesis next week, so I'll be back in the game. +I live a 5 min walk from the next lake and the next forest. It's very tempting. +--- 2561932 +autism, chronic sinusitis and tinnitus that I know off. But there's also something wrong with the left side of my head, which gives me blurry vision in one eye, migraines, this weird "shaky" feeling in my ear when I smile, and if I go underwater my ear hurts. It's been like this for like 6 years now and I haven't bothered to get it checked, despite it really affecting my sleep and makes me really stressed out sometimes, it's also why I can't sleep outside anymore, that and the tinnitus. +I hate going to the doctor as I feel like a crybaby going there and it's such a hassle, so it is what it is +--- 2561936 +>>2561932 +Dude. I'm like totally retarded. +You fucking need to get that shit checked. I've spent some time half deaf and after years I went to check it out and three weeks later I had perfect stereo hearing. +MOVE YOUR ASS! +--- 2561954 +>>2561936 +Where do I even start and say to the doctor? +--- 2561955 +>>2561954 +One problem, next problem, the problem after that. Most of that can be helped. +Where are you from, what's the insurance situation? +--- 2562254 +>>2550817 (OP) +I'm a few pounds overweight and wear glasses +--- 2562301 +>>2550817 (OP) +>hayfever +for the other hayfever/allergies bros i reccomend getting mizollen 10mg mizolastine pills. They cut out about 70-80% of my symptoms, although i usually use them with a nasal spray too. They seem pretty expensive online but i get them for free in my country so i guess it depends where you live. +--- 2562342 +I have a slightly bum leg. a congenital deal that left me with less muscle in my right leg and a bit shorter. It sucks but I have never let it stop me getting /out. I dont hike fast or even super far but I do get out. I also, bike, ski, fish etc...but hiking is where it come most into play. trekking poles rule and allow me to go farther. +--- 2564292 +>>2562254 +and you post on /out/ +--- 2564383 +>>2550817 (OP) +Yeah I'm retarded +--- 2564430 +>vestibular migraines +>tinnitus from blowing my ears out in a shooting accident +>herniated disc from a bad deadlift pull +I can live with the upper two but my back problem affects my /out/ings and makes me want to KMS +--- 2565861 +bum knee from an accident. i fuck it up and have to hobble after every single backpacking trip, so i can rarely do more than 2 nights without risking myself getting stranded. +--- 2565863 +>>2564430 +You live in snap city, not the outdoors sorry bro +--- 2566180 +>>2550817 (OP) +Stage 4 autism +--- 2567006 +>>2552795 + +Same. + +Woulda been a good spot too. +--- 2567007 +>>2552937 + +Same, then I go home and look a google earth a few hours a day till I go out again. Got to know the size of the catchment area and all that important stuff. +--- 2567008 +>>2550817 (OP) +Crippling porno addiction. I wish I was joking. + +And why did we shorten “pornography” to “porn” when “porno” was perfectly sufficient? Why doesn’t anyone say “porno” anymore? +--- 2567011 +>>2550817 (OP) +Cerebral Palsy, but its pretty minor. Just means that I walk with a limp and have weaker legs than average. +--- 2567027 +Crohn's disease which made me basically not go outside from age 13-30 until I got a colostomy. Always scared of shitting myself, or if I could find a toilet, of being stuck there for an hour while people had to wait for me. Not able to eat because eating means shitting, always malnourished. Now, with the colostomy, shitting and eating is no longer a problem, but I feel a little more fragile considering the risk of getting a hernia while stretching/lifting is severe and I'm always carrying my fucking exposed intestines around in front of me. + +Also, massive massive ADHD like that other guy. If a sign says "1 hour" it's gonna take me 2 because every tree is more interesting than the one before. And I need to bring weed and a bottle of wine everywhere I go. +All in all, it's alright if I'm not doing anything longer than 8 hours. +--- 2567078 +>>2567027 +>If a sign says "1 hour" it's gonna take me 2 because every tree is more interesting than the one before +Based nature enjoyer +--- 2567401 +>>2550817 (OP) +I have a severe condition that causes my hands and crotch to be constantly sticky. it started happening around the time I turned 12 and my parents kept telling me not to touch myself in public, but it just itched so bad it was unreal. thankfully when i'm /out/ there aren't many people to harass me about my condition, and those that do I just look them dead in the eye while I rub my itch and they go away. +--- 2567413 +>>2567027 +>Crohn's disease +I had a couple girlfriend's who had that. I kind of think they thought I was dating material since I wasn't judgemental. One I wasn't physically intimate with because I was kind of awkward and the other I took to prom and made out with after. The first was morbidly obes but surprisingly strong. The second was almost anorexic but actually cute and funny which was why I asked her to prom. Neither one told me much about how Crohn's disease effected their life other than restricting their diet. The first girl needed surgery but she's got kids now so I guess she's doing okay. I hope everything works out for you anon, remember you're not alone. + +>ADHD +I can empathize personally with this one. I have ADD so while I'm not as hyperactive most of the time, I get spaced out and distracted easily. Just today I was on a riverpath in my city and I spotted a snapping turtle on a rock just off the bank. My first thought was to try sneaking up and catching it, so I crept down the 6 foot bank, nearly slipping more than once. I stood on the floodplain (flat area near the water that get flooded frequently and waited to see if it saw me. It kept looking around and tucking it's heaf in it's shell away from me, but I was cautious nonetheless. On a side note I think this is what distinguishes ADD from ADHD, because if I was hyperactive I probably would have just gone straight for it rather than cautiously sit and observe. Just as I had stood up to move toward it again some guy walking his dog asked me how I got down there. He came down to wash his leash in the river, walked towards the turtle without ever seeing it as it jumped in the water, probably because of his sunglasses. He was a nice guy, we chatted about dogs and hiking for a bit before he left. + +I truly believe ADD/ADHD exists because of hunting. Our ancestors needed to be constantly on the look out for signs that something was trying to hide from us. Don't take it for granted. +--- 2567416 +>>2550817 (OP) +nope but i still use the disabled people bathroom stall because fuck you you dont get to feel special because you were born too retarded to move your legs +--- 2567417 +>>2567401 +That’s not a seve-, what the fuck? +--- 2567484 +>>2567417 +it's joke about puberty. +--- 2567927 +>>2561932 +Anon pls go to the doctor desu don't make me worry about you diff --git a/out/2551400.txt b/out/2551400.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8449151a4464c00622c944f34855dc02abbae664 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2551400.txt @@ -0,0 +1,442 @@ +----- +--- 2551422 +>>2551400 (OP) +If you stay out of progressive urban centers you will be fine. +--- 2551431 +>>2551400 (OP) +I see backpackers in my town pretty often, you'll be fine as long as you don't start begging/panhandling. +--- 2551432 +>>2551431 +How often are hitchhikers actually killed in America, movies got me worried. +--- 2551440 +>>2551432 +It's extremely rare, according to FBI stats. +--- 2551441 +>>2551432 +First: American media is largely made by Wealthy White Americans crawling over each other like maggots to socially signal to each other how much they hate the wealthy, white people, and America. +Also, The US is large, both in distance and population, individual events should be considered against a population of 330 million. +--- 2551453 +>>2551400 (OP) +Very. Luck all other travel advice, be careful in poor areas. +--- 2551505 +>>2551400 (OP) +>How safe is Backpacking across America for an unarmed tourist? +Backpacking across America would be boring as hell, at least the Midwest. And the climate alone would kill you in the Southwest if you got stranded and were unprepared. +Now if you mean hitchhiking instead, that hasn't been without risk since the Sixties. In my lifetime I count the number of times I got a ride or gave one on one hand (and I'm typically armed). +--- 2551508 +>>2551432 +I need to know your race and gender to answer that question accurately. +--- 2551545 +>>2551440 +It’s true. +--- 2551547 +>>2551400 (OP) +It's incredibly dangerous. Why the hell would you subject yourself to something like that? +--- 2551567 +>>2551547 +shut the fuck up urbanite +--- 2551584 +I have picked up 3 backpacking hitchhikers, all of them were male and smelled really bad. 2 of them begged me for money but wouldn't let me buy them food at which point I kicked them out, and one of those two absolutely reeked of alcohol and weed. 1 of them ate lunch with me and was decent to talk to, but he was also really fat so I assume he wasn't actually backpacking and just lived in the area as a beggar because he also didn't have anything to say about places he had been. + +All in all, I probably won't pick up any more hitchhikers, they somehow give off this entitled aura. None of them thanked me for the distance I drove them, or were able to entertain me in some way. And the two that I kicked out were outright aggressive because I wouldn't give them money. I'm autistic so I don't really get that "feeling of accomplishment" or whatever from doing a "good deed", but maybe I'll try picking up a girl hitchhiker if I see one again. I'm just scared of sexual advances and women in general, so I've been avoiding them. +--- 2551587 +>>2551400 (OP) +As safe as any other 3rd world shithole +--- 2551596 +>>2551567 +Shush, larper. The adults are talking. +--- 2551683 +>>2551587 +>ching chong chang ching chong +this is an English speaking board please post in English so people don't have to translate, Xang. +--- 2551689 +>>2551400 (OP) +Kek if you're a foreigner in the US the police won't even come looking for you when something happens. You'll disappear and they'll file a report. Your name will be on some register and that'll be the end of you. + +You'll just be missing forever. +--- 2551709 +>>2551689 +depends on which country you're from...more specifically how white your native country is. If you're from Scandinavia or Switzerland--for example--you will probably get search parties but if you're brown....ya, sorry not sorry. +--- 2551710 +>>2551709 +I'm from Scandinavia, so guess i'm good then +--- 2551720 +>>2551683 +How’s East Palestine doing? +That’s some 3rd world shit; literally Bhopal-tier +--- 2551787 +it's safe. +--- 2551789 +>>2551720 +Or Flint Michigan. America is a third world country in a Gucci belt. +--- 2551802 +>>2551400 (OP) +Fairly safe. Canadian here. + + I hitchhiked the appalachian mountains from New York to Georgia. That was a great trip and most of my rides came from park rangers up and down the trail and other tourists. And did the cascade mountain from Washington state to California. Ive also hitchhiked across the midwest. + +In the midwest I ran into trouble. I was robbed in Chicago and then again in Milwaukee 2 days later. Finding a ride or population center are few and far between but when I made my way into Northern WI, upper Michigan and Minnesota was it nothing but super friendly people. + +The west coast was also decent until I hung out with a bunch of other homeless people in Portland OR. They ended up stealing my cooking pot, sleeping bag, and some clothing outside of Sacramento before disappering. +I would avoid huge cities if possible. +--- 2551807 +>>2551802 +>it was safe until I went to Chicago, Milwaukee, Portland, and Sacramento +And why is that? +--- 2551839 +>>2551400 (OP) +Avoid big cities. Suburban midwest is and rural western America is probably the safest area you'll ever be. Appalachians get pretty cracked out, and the nigger cities are all bad 24/7, other than that you should be fine. +>You can buy a big knife with no licensing here +Take advantage of this if it makes you feel safer. Unfortunately there is no non-citizen gun program kek, but you can technically (illegally) buy one privately in a state like AZ if you really wanted to. I do not recommend breaking any laws while you're here, I'm just sharing information. +--- 2551841 +>>2551802 +Funny how the evil Nazi rednecks will leave you in peace or render advice and assistance while the vibrant and progressive urban nexuses are riddled with crime and people who'd step over you if you collapsed in the street, isn't it? + +Say, where does the anti-working class propaganda come from, anyway? Oh right, the vibrant and progressive urban nexuses. Hmmm.... +--- 2551894 +If you stay out of inner cities and don't actively fuck with people you chances of being murdered are literally 0% +--- 2551922 +>>2551400 (OP) +Kansas City and Albuquerque, New Mexico. Are the only two cities I actively avoid just because shit people. Well besides shit in Florida- and Washington, DC and New York. Consider using cities to hop through to better ones using the Greyhound service. +--- 2551925 +>>2551922 +>actively avoids cities because of shit people +>doesn't avoid Greyhound because of shit people +--- 2551942 +>>2551807 +>>2551841 +Dude, both of you got me 100% wrong. Ive always hated cities, but at the same time I never explore them either. That and the food is usually fantastic. Urban decay isn't something Id gloat about. This is your fucking country bud. Clean it up. + +I grew up in fuck nowhere Ontario. Only Americans I ever meet were people doing fishing trips. I ended up working for a fly-in resort and got an opportunity to go down to the US and do a show as an exibtor/salesman representing our lodge. There i got the idea of doing a backpack trip for about a month or so and see how far I get on a fixed budget of so much a day. I had an emergency fund of 2k to get me home. Best investment was a $50 mountain bike through the Appalachian trail. When I bent the rim I posted looking for a rim and boom got one for free after explaining my journey. Ran into a ton of that from the rural folks who were more than happy to help me out. +--- 2551946 +>>2551925 +Greyhound bus stations are strict. And will leave your ass and don't fuck around with nigger shit like a waffle house. But if you end up near say Albuquerque. Why the fuk would you want to walk across that hot ass desert? When for about 150 bucks or less you can get the fuk out of there to a much nicer and greater distance. Riding through there is miserable enough in the early summer.. dunno why you would want to be outdoors to see legit nothing for DAYS. I thought I was gonna die of dehydration just being out there on a motorcycle- because free water fillups were rare as fuck. Almost every rest stop in Southern Utah, Arizona and New Mexico. Water fountains were broken or just not working. I have two wheels and can cover distances at 75miles an hour. And still would feel the need to fill my spare gallon jug in fear of how much longer before I'd find clean drinking water. +--- 2551947 +>>2551942 +>Dude, both of you got me 100% wrong. +Nothing in your entire response indicates that I misunderstood you, and generally speaking I agree with your views, so you must have gotten me wrong. +>Urban decay isn't something Id gloat about. This is your fucking country bud. Clean it up. +Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I too grew up rural, and city problems are not my problems to fix, even if I could, which I can't. I'm not going to devote my life to crusading for a lost cause when I can spend it /out/doors, away from the madness. + +Now whether or not I can avoid and sidestep our country's problems for my entire life or if they'll catch up to me eventually even out here (I'm 40, so about 40 to go) is up for debate. +--- 2552083 +>>2551596 +I would be really really sad if I lived a sheltered, concrete and steel life like yours +--- 2552084 +>>2551720 +I know you're either a zoomer or English isn't your first language based on your misunderstanding of the term 3rd world. +--- 2552097 +>>2551400 (OP) +It's extremely dangerous you should definitely stay away and go back where you came from +--- 2552112 +>>2552084 +I’m aware that the term as to do with the sides in WW1, I’m not using it literally. +Truth is, the US shares many of the same problems with literal 3rd world countries, which is why I call it one too. +You don’t see train derailments like this in 80+% White countries, and if it did happen the government would actually do something about it instead of basically nothing +--- 2552128 +>>2551400 (OP) +This is mildly entertaining and has decent tips. Long story short if you don't watch it, hardly anyone in the US picks up hitchhikers. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_japiE6QKWrCfn7NFL86bRSWez5DTDWt +--- 2552178 +>>2552112 +EU has double the amount of train derailments per year as the US does. +--- 2552184 +>>2552178 +Well that’s an easily verifiable lie, it’s about the same, but by “like this” I’m talking about ones with huge fucking chemical spills. +That’s the first thing I posted, the E Palestine spill, so sorry if you are retarded liar and can’t follow context +--- 2552187 +>>2551400 (OP) +Stay off of my property and you'll be fine. +Not telling you where it is or how big it is, though. +It's YOUR job to figure that out. +--- 2552188 +>>2552187 +How bout I don't. +--- 2552197 +>>2552184 +How is it a lie? Both stats are easily visible as they're tracked by the governments in question, in 2022 Europe had 4400 collisions+derailments and the US had 2700. +>by “like this” I’m talking about ones with huge fucking chemical spills. +Serbia (83% Serbian) had a train wreck that spilled Ammonia everywhere and also killed 50 people, not even 4 months ago. I'm sure I'll get some cope about how Serbia isn't white now or something. +>government would do something instead of nothing +The government did do something, they chose to burn off the chemical before it entered the water table directly. Whether it was the right choice is still up for debate, but saying they did nothing is also just wrong. + +Why are Europeans so obsessed with the US? It's so fucking sad. +--- 2552387 +>>2552197 +You’re right, it is easily checked, which is why I know you’re a filthy liar +>https://www.statista.com/statistics/1128848/accidents-on-european-rail-networks-by-country/ +Add them up and it’s around 1,400, which is even more impressive considering that rail traffic in Europe is probably like 5x as much if not more. +>Serbia +First you said the EU, and Serbia is not in the EU. +The government didn’t burn off the chemicals, the rail company did. +The government isn’t doing shit to help as far as aid goes because the government is anti-White. +I don’t live in Europe, ryou stupid gorilla nigger. +I live in the Midwest, which is how I know the US is basically a 3rd world shithole +--- 2552389 +>>2552188 +You'll be in an unmarked shallow grave before anyone knows what happened to you. +--- 2552400 +>>2552389 +You won't do shit. +--- 2552415 +>>2552389 +Lmaooo mr 2nd amendment over here +You are so badass +--- 2552778 +>>2552415 +If you're ever on my property without my permission, you'll find out. +Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. +--- 2552847 +>>2551400 (OP) +If you mean walking across the US, you'll need to walk on at least 1800 miles of roads which is the most dangerous thing you can do. If you mean traveling in general it's pretty safe if you stay out of shitty neighborhoods. +--- 2552852 +>>2552847 +Assuming you don't get mugged, shot, raped, or randomly incarcerated, it's pretty safe yeah. +--- 2552929 +>>2552112 +>Nip nog chang ching chong ching +I told you, English, chang +>>2552084 +This website is loaded with subhumans that hate America and obsessivly post the same rants over and over. +--- 2553155 +>>2552929 +Why do you like living in a gay mulatto stud farm that worships jews? +--- 2553157 +>>2551400 (OP) +Safe enough that you won't drone striked by accident. Unsafe enough that you're better off carrying a firearm +--- 2553228 +>>2551400 (OP) +Most crime in the US is concentrated in a relatively small number of bad neighborhoods in urban areas. Other than that, these are the precautions I would take: +1. Carry bear spray at the very least. +2. If you are going to be passing through southern border states, be aware of signs of cartel activity and leave the area if you notice any. +--- 2553359 +>>2551584 +Anon, what you picked up were homeless people, not recreational backpackers or hikers. Hikers wouldn’t beg for money or turn down food, as they have their trips budgeted and aren’t completely broke. + +Of course both homeless people and backpackers will stink, as neither has east access to regular showers. +--- 2553365 +>>2553228 +>>2551894 +lol +--- 2553370 +>>2551400 (OP) +pretty safe, there's only one or two documented serial killers on the appalachian trail since the 80s and only 6 hikers go missing a year on average, usually not the long distance ones. pct is even safer, and the other ones have limited data available. unless you run into an israel keyes or can't into weather forecasts and compasses you're gucci my man. +--- 2555371 +Just avoid leftist areas and places where people go missing often sometimes areas are more dangerous (shit roads, harsh weather, agressive wildlife) and people don't realise. +Your biggest threat 90% of time is other people. +--- 2555496 +>>2555476 +What the fuck are trail angels +--- 2555499 +>>2551584 +>I'm just scared of sexual advances and women in general, so I've been avoiding them. +Kek, me too! I start shaking and get poopoopeepee. +--- 2555511 +>>2552387 +>I live in the Midwest +America is a massive and diverse country with heavily localized governments. This leads us to have the best of the best as well as the worst of the worst. Part of being an adult is choosing where you want to live (you have to be 18 to post here), so if you live in a shit hole and are not taking any steps to leave said shit hole or make it not a shithole, that's on you. There are plenty of places in the Midwest that aren't third world tier, you're just too much of a loser to get there. +--- 2555731 +>>2553155 +>Ching chang nip nag nong +How many times do I have to tell you--English, subhuman. +--- 2555734 +>>2555496 +Boomers who think they're literal angels for handing out some bottled water +--- 2555741 +>>2551492 +and we hate them back +source: rabbi held a class on the evils of hollywood and how according to the talmud that is brought up so much they will be burning in gehenna (hell) +--- 2555746 +>>2555579 +That sounds sketchy as shit. +--- 2556160 +>>2555746 +Ask me how I know you're an urbanite. +My family in montana doesn't lock their doors because if they aren't home people can still come in side if there is an emergency...their entire county is 99% white though--so there's that. +--- 2556275 +>>2555746 +>t. resident of diverse and vibrant city +Towns and cities used to be that way too for a long time. Some unnamed ingredient was added, and it all changed. +--- 2556282 +>>2556160 +I lived in a crowded suburb with a lot of middle class immigrant families from Japan, China, India, and a few black families. Never locked my door growing up. Never locked up my bike. Walked around at all hours of the night and had friendly chats with the bored cops. + +Moved to a rural town that had a healthy white trash community. Holy shit did that wake me up. Meth heads are animals. White trash is common and just as horrible as black trash. There's no denying it. +--- 2556767 +>>2556282 +>Things that never happened: the post +wow xang, you're really going for it here aren't you +--- 2556771 +>>2551400 (OP) +Just get a gun. It's very easy here. You never know when you'll need to shoot a hitchhiker. +--- 2556780 +>>2556771 +...I always know when I need to shoot a hitchhiker though... +--- 2556804 +>>2556160 +>>2556275 +>>2556767 +You've never lived in a rural area, have you. No, mommy and daddy's house on the golf course in suburbia doesn't count. +--- 2557423 +>>2556804 +I live on the outskirts of suburbia. Farm fields to the horizon start about 4-5 miles from me, so yes, you are correct. +--- 2557676 +>>2551400 (OP) +A tent is an obvious indication of homelessness, and because the homeless commit the vast majority of crime in the US, anybody who is in possession of a tent is probably a criminal. Since the overloaded justice system and overcrowded prisons don't deter crime it's up to everybody else to fix the problem, which naturally includes beating to death people who are carrying tents or sleeping in them. If you want to travel in the US we have more than enough hotels to accommodate you, along with an extensive transportation system that includes airline service and car rentals. +--- 2557745 +>>2557676 +Nothing you said is true. +--- 2557808 +>>2551400 (OP) +Which America, North or South? +--- 2557869 +>>2557478 +Uh, anon, I worked in 'diverse' areas, and my wallet was regularly subject to contest. I understand nig noggitry as well as any man. Not sure why im lumped into this (I was>>2556275) +--- 2557871 +>>2557869 +mis clicked you and i ban evaded so i couldnt edit +--- 2557982 +>>2552389 +Fuck Off, Edgelord. +--- 2558044 +>>2551584 +This is the best post on the board right now and it isn't even close +--- 2558631 +>>2551432 +I wouldn't worry about it +*sniiiiiff* +--- 2558633 +>>2558631 +Pthpthpththth +--- 2558688 +>>2551400 (OP) +Just knock on a door in Appalachia and offer 200 bucks for a pistol that may or may not have been used in a murder in 2002. +--- 2558695 +>>2558688 +Sounds like a good way to end up on the missing persons list. +--- 2558698 +>>2558044 +>>2551584 +Samefag +--- 2558699 +Just try not to look like a turkey +--- 2558701 +>>2558699 +Good post. +--- 2558799 +>>2551400 (OP) +i'd pack a 9 to be safe. Personally I work in an industrial area which is in the hood so I open carry. +--- 2559719 +Safe as fuck... + +God, are you faggots that retarded? +You can walk into the worst neighborhoods in the world and be fine if you have common sense... +--- 2559761 +I love how you can spot the seething rural people with comments like "Muh liberul cities". + +In impoverished rural states like west Virginia, Mississippi or even in places like upstate NY, you won't fine more meth heads/opiate addicts and theviery than in any inner city ghetto. Combined with the fact these counties and municipalities are often corrupt and run by the same incestuous good ol' boys you are far more likely to be hassled or even rob with little immediate recourse. These are also the same boomer retards waving Maga flags and voting for the same politicians that dick them over and then blame the "liberals" in the city. +I live in NYC and if anything it's too sterile. +The biggest danger of backpacking in America is litterally getting hit by a car, than any criminal behavior. but I will call out the Euros on this that Americans drive far more conservatively then countries like Italy or France but we also have less mass transit except in some cities. +--- 2560519 +>>2559761 +You're an idiot. I've lived in suburban, urban, and rural environments and the inner-cities were by far the worst in terms of crime. But since you live in NYC, I encourage you to keep thinking that rural counties are horrible places to live and keep away. You're probably right on one count: your kind isn't well-liked around here and you would quickly be run out of town by the locals who would make life absolute hell for you. +--- 2560559 +>>2559719 +>God, are you faggots that retarded? +They really are, and it’s tiresome. I don’t know if it’s Europeans or Zoomers or what, but there’s a lot of cowardice on /out/. +--- 2561634 +>>2560519 +Your definition of bad/good rural is likely very different, Also there are more shitty rural places that easily fit the category of inner city ghetto. Just replace the gangs and Cocaine with meth heads and opiate addicts who will rob you without a second thought. +But since we are discussing it, WV by far has the worst rural crime and poverty but as a backpacker you are unlikely to deal with them since most of the outdoor activities and trails like the AT are pretty isolated from that. + +OP If you really want to avoid questionable rural areas, Maine and Vermont are very safe rural areas with very nice people. NH is not bad but the areas around dover are shitty. + +Mississippi particularly on the Alabama border are really shitty, Nevada is nice but the areas East of Vegas and reno are litteral meth capitals. +--- 2561652 +>>2561634 +Why the fuck would you go to Nevada? Especially if you're from the east coast. +--- 2562379 +>>2551400 (OP) +All you have to do is stitch a Canadian flag to your backpack and that lets people know that you're not an American. +--- 2564291 +>>2562379 +Only Americans larping as Canadians do that. It's a dead giveaway. +--- 2565294 +KEK +>>2565148 +--- 2565698 +>>2551400 (OP) +Just avoid major cities and you will be fine. +--- 2565701 +>>2565698 +I don't think personal safety is really a thing in America anymore. People get robbed and murdered on trails and in national forests and parks. +--- 2566695 +>>2551400 (OP) +Start in downtown Baltimore, you should be fine +--- 2566721 +>>2551547 +I hitchhiked from Vancouver BC to Redding, CA (with a couple bus trips in between). Everyone who picked me up was friendly, helpful, and reasonably good conversationalists. +The basic principle is that if you sense something is up with someone, don't get in in the first place. I carried a knife and bear spray concealed on my person at all times and only once felt slightly worried. Greentext incoming +--- 2566723 +>>2566721 +>be me +>standing on an interstate on-ramp in Redding, CA with a sign saying "NORTH" +>an old man in a van pulls over +>"I'm heading to Burney" he says +>not sure where that is but if he's heading north, at least I'll be heading in the right direction +>go to put my pack in the back seat but the man says, "that door don't open" (the back sliding door on the van). +>so I lug my pack into the passenger seat then awkwardly stuff it in the back +>we get going onto the interstate +>I am unfolding my map to see where Burney is and how far of a lift I'm getting +>we go like two miles and a sign on the highway says "Burney: exit 2 miles" or something. +>I'm still fumbling around with my map and the old man suddenly says, "I'm gay" +>I pretend I didn't hear +>he repeats: "I'm gay. What do you think of that?" +>"Uh, I don't mind. Doesn't matter to me." +>I stupidly thought he wanted to debate politics or something like gay marriage. +>then he says, "Are you gonna do anything?" ie. he was propositioning me +>"Uh, n-no. No, I'm not doing anything." +>we're now approaching the Burney exit and I say, "Here's your turn. I'll just get out here." +>he keeps going on the interstate +>"Hey, buddy, this is the exit!" +>"maybe I'll stop for a coffee somewhere. You don't want to get out here. It looks like it's gonna start raining." +>getting really nervous now, scenarios running through my head that I'm gonna have to fight this guy. Hoping he doesn't have a gun. +>he takes the next exit and we're at a red light +>I open the door, yank my pack out of the back seat and chuck it on the side of the road and bail +>it starts raining +tl;dr missed my chance at a geriatric blowjob +--- 2566896 +>>2561652 +--- 2566971 +>>2566723 +Smart move desu, for all you know he had a taser or roofie hidden away somewhere. +--- 2566972 +>>2566896 +>EXTREME midget wrestling +Every time I see this tagline, I wonder what non-extreme midget wrestling looks like. +--- 2566987 +>>2552083 +>t. suburboid city leech larping as a ruralite +--- 2567677 +It really feels like you just can't "go" anywhere now. Like even if you just loaded up your stuff and took off in a random direction walking through the wilderness eventually someone's camera or drone or light plane would see you and they'd call the cops and the FBI and they'd want to know why you were just walking around by yourself in the middle of nowhere and what places you've visited within the past 3 years +--- 2568283 +>West coast +Should be fine +>Rockies +Might run into some methheads who can be a problem but will probably be fine +>Southwest +Safe as long as you don’t go in the summer and stay away from the Mexican border +>Southeast +Dangerous to go alone. A lot of crime. Take weapons for self defense +>Midwest +Not as bad as Southeast but still should watch your back especially if you go near Chicago +>Appalachia +Mixed. A lot of weirdos out there and dangerous terrain but still doable +>Northeast +Should be fine. +--- 2568318 +>>2551400 (OP) +anon. +that is a LONG ASS way to go. +Consider doing a north-south run. +like the cascades. +It runs through the parts of the northwest that aren't shit. diff --git a/out/2552010.txt b/out/2552010.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a90feef8b9d8ae57642869d1dec47cd9abfadf0e --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2552010.txt @@ -0,0 +1,779 @@ +----- +--- 2552010 +Knife general thread, knives actually made for use in the outdoors edition. Office workers who've only ever cut cardboard/paper need not apply +--- 2552024 +BPS Adventurer. Great knife, and because they are made in Ukraine I suspect they are being subsidized for export so they are available far cheaper than they should be. For $40 you get a quality knife, very quality sheath, and ferro rod. +--- 2552029 +>>2552024 +Looks nice, though the stand with ukraine shit on their site is gay and their use of 1066 instead of something similar to 1095 is questionable on their smaller fixed blades +--- 2552038 +>>2552029 +Never been to their website, bought off Amazon cheap and will do so until Wagner storms their factory and loots all the goods. +>their use of 1066 instead of something similar to 1095 is questionable +I mean sure, but I doubt any human being would be able to tell a 1060 knife from 1095 knife after a day of slicing wood or whatever. 10XX steel doesn't matter on a bush knife, it matters on a chef knife or a thin sword. +--- 2552042 +>>2552038 +The main difference is in toughness and edge retention. And while you can't really tell the toughness of a knife until you eventually break it, the difference between edge retention becomes apparent when you use em for a bit. Even with 1075 you'll find yourself having to touch up the edge more often than 1095, and while that's a worthwhile trade-off when it comes to larger knives, it's wasted on smaller ones +>10XX steel doesn't matter on a bush knife, it matters on a chef knife or a thin sword. +How exactly? Also who uses 10 series carbon steels for kitchen knives? +--- 2552047 +>>2552010 (OP) +--- 2552049 +>>2552010 (OP) +https://youtu.be/YYC9xrOsQj0 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/ehjbNLy387k [Embed] + +mandatory viewing for all the tryhards out there +--- 2552055 +>>2552049 +https://youtu.be/uvlmsH0IFT4 [Embed] +--- 2552056 +Fucking hate how big the handles are on Mora's. I returned like 3 of them. + +For me? It's the Buck 110 and Gerber Asada, and pic related for actual/out/ activity +--- 2552057 +>>2552010 (OP) +Ask me how I know you use the wrong tool for the job, for everything +--- 2552059 +>>2552057 +Are you one of those types that avoids using knives at any cost just to prove a point? +--- 2552062 +>>2552056 +>Fucking hate how big the handles are on Mora's. I returned like 3 of them. +Really? I find em quite comfy, and I wear medium sized gloves. Plus them being a little oversized is a good thing for when you use em with thick gloves on. To each their own though, no problem with not being a fan of budget swedish knives +--- 2552088 +>>2552056 +>For me? It's the Buick Lesabre and Carne Asada, and pic related for actual/out/ activity +what is the blurry pic related? did it come in a box of swiss miss +--- 2552131 +>>2552056 +Tiny hands typed this post +--- 2552132 +Does Mora still make the model with the ferro rod in the handle? or has it been discontinued +--- 2552133 +>>2552056 +>Fucking hate how big the handles are on Mora's +>For me? It's the Buck 110 +Pretty much the same size handle lmao +--- 2552170 +>>2552056 +got a victorinox forester, basically the same thing - absolutely love it for an outdoors knife. can't say i've ever had an issue with the handle size on moras, fits my medium hands absolutely fine and probably more comfortable than most other knives. +got a bk10 as well, works well as a knife but i'm not sure about the handles and the sheath isn't great but strapped onto a pack it's not a huge deal. +--- 2552175 +>>2552170 +I've got a kydex sheath and micarta handles on mine. It's worth it if you use it a lot. You can get them on Amazon. They have g10 handles as well. +--- 2552216 +my gf got me this for christmas +--- 2552221 +i don't know much about outdoors but it's great tool for blue-collar workers, will buy more in the future +--- 2552222 +>>2552221 +why would you ever use one of those instead of a utility knife in blue collar work? +--- 2552223 +>>2552221 +You should have at least 17 Mora Companionas +--- 2552226 +>>2552222 +i still use utility knives or light tasks, thankfully i don't live in pansy country where people would get arrested for carrying bigger blade +--- 2552227 +>>2552222 +Not all work is amazon cardboard boxes +--- 2552232 +>>2552227 +Well aware, unfortunate tradie here. +--- 2552261 +Leatherman Skeletool is all you need +--- 2552264 +>>2552261 +Quite literally one of the worst leathermans to date, basically any other option from them would be better suited to outdoors use +--- 2552284 +>>2552010 (OP) +Grohmann #2 "Bird and Trout" +Stainless steel, Canadian made! +--- 2552346 +I like Moras, they're all over the place here. Also have a couple of service Khukuris, a Gerber LMF, Cold Steel Bushman, a few hand forged pieces and a fairly practical viking Saex. +--- 2552452 +>>2552284 +coincidentally i have a barely used #2 in the mail which i plan to use for... bird and trout +tell me about it anon +--- 2552748 +Choils are retarded. +That is all. +Goodbye. +--- 2552768 +One these has been my pocket knife for 20 years +--- 2552816 +>>2552221 +What the hell happened to the handles? I understand it being dirty/damaged to a degree (especially in a construction site), but some of those look genuinely chewed up +--- 2552824 +>>2552010 (OP) +how are winkler knives? +--- 2552969 +>>2552010 (OP) +This beautiful thing just arrived. Terävä Jääkäripuukko 110. +--- 2552984 +>>2552816 +Maybe he was pretending to be a pirate, climbing the rigging to tell Peter Pan that he doesn't really go /out/ +--- 2553077 +>>2552748 +yes +--- 2553090 +>>2552042 +Toughness is defined in ASTM D5801-12. The main contributors to Toughness are material type and annealing method. Edge retention is mostly a byproduct of hardness--ASTM E18-22. Both toughness and hardness should be consistent by manufacturer--zero guess work. +Fun fact--most knife manufacturers use what is cheap and easy to make not what is best... for example you don't see a lot of stainless knifes from custom knife makers because it is much harder to work with and the annealing is more difficult--not because it isn't superior to carbon steel. The carbon steel my persists because it is easier for noobs to sharpen. +--- 2553093 +>>2553090 +my bad +Stainless > carbon +There is another MUCH more expensive method to manufacture stainless using an atomization process but I can't remember the process name. +--- 2553095 +>>2553093 +Powder metallurgy? +--- 2553198 +>>2552452 +Honesty, not to sound like a fluff, but it is so comfy, and ergonomic. Lots of different holdings. My buddy who is an avid moose hunter says it would would lovely on moose. I've just use her on trout... hopefully rabbit (hare) and grouse soon. +--- 2553237 +>>2552824 +expensive but from what i've seen breddy gud +--- 2553249 +>>2552768 +Based, I just recently gave that same model to my friend +--- 2553263 +>>2552969 +do you like it? I'm torn between the 140 and the 110. I've heard they feel a little flimsy +--- 2553338 +>>2553263 +I literally just got it, but for now it feels really good at hand. +>140 and the 110 +I had this doubt too, no regrets until now. I guess the 140 would feel clumsier with the blade length. +>flimsy +Definitely not, it seems really sturdy for now. But again, I'll only have an actual opinion as soon as I take it /out/ with me. +--- 2553350 +>>2552969 +Based trash enjoyer +--- 2553363 +>>2553350 +Why trash? +--- 2553380 +>>2553198 +i picked it up today, feels nice in the hand but looks nothing fancy. definitely made to be used. my gf remarked it looked like an old timey letter opener haha +--- 2553389 +>>2553363 +Because Varusteleka is the top retailer, and they gargle Zelensky's balls. +--- 2553402 +>>2553389 +Yeah, I don't care. It doesn't affect the product. I wouldn't remain from buying something good because of politics. +--- 2553501 +>>2552222 +Because you have a really, really small dick +--- 2553507 +>>2553501 +/lgbt +--- 2553538 +>>2552038 +from a practical view point, the 1066 is tougher than 1095, heat treated to the same hardness the 1066 will bend where the 1095 would break, though the 1095 will hold an edge longer than the 1066, both are practical steels and easy to sharpen in the field should it become necessary. + +For the money it's a fine knife. +--- 2553545 +>>2552222 +I use the small Esee instead of the box cutter because the sheath is less noticeable on my belt, no folding or opening like a utility knife, and it takes a good edge and holds it for awhile while box cutters are super super sharp and will slice the tip of your finger off before they’re completely dull and useless 5min later. Esee also makes a decent small pry bar or spudger when needed and box cutters snap. +--- 2553559 +>>2553507 +Indeed, if you need a large blade to open boxes... You probably belong there. +--- 2553560 +>>2553545 +It's still just a compensation for a tiny penis. +--- 2553580 +>>2553380 +Yeah, grohmann's are a true woodman's knife; known as the canadian belt knife. The 2 does have a old timey letter opener vibe though haha I'll have to use mine on that, along with the trout! Hope you enjoy her! +--- 2553582 +>>2553560 +The tiny knife that is smaller than the box cutter? +--- 2553739 +>>2553582 +What you have to realize, is just how small that guys dick really is. It's basically a clitoris with a urethra routed through it. + +I took the ESEE pill, since you liked it so much, but I found the candiru just a bit too small. I basically use the Izula or a spyderco, depending on if I'm at work or not. (I work in the federal govt and the spyderco is less likely to get me questioned, since it's less visible stowed.) +--- 2553741 +>>2553739 +>works for the fed +>is obsessed with dicks +checks out +--- 2553792 +Anyone have a brisa nessmuk? How do you like it? +--- 2553802 +>>2553582 +Yes, you sexually inadequate man child. LMAO +--- 2553844 +>>2553792 +i have one, its WAY too thick for that blade shape, if it was half as thick it would be greatly improved +--- 2555184 +>>2552010 (OP) +What's a good, EDC knife? Mainly for traveling and some light outdoor work. Should come with a sheet. Eyeing some Morakniv on Amazon rn. +--- 2555910 +>>2555184 +See >>2553739 +>>2553545 + +>>2553739 +Also I use the Candiru because I’m working around normies all day and the thing hides in the palm of my hand. If it were a straight up fishing knoife, I would carry something like the Esee 3 or 5 or whatever smaller than Rambo knoife. + +>Spyderco +Every one of those I see must be some factory seconds because they have a big hole in the blade. +--- 2556346 +Knoif's 'n sheet. +--- 2556786 +>>2552010 (OP) +Spooky, those are both of my primary knives. +The Buck knife was probably the best purchase I've ever made in terms of knives. That was over a decade ago. +--- 2556793 +>>2556786 +I'm thinking about getting a buck; I like the concept of the 102 for small game, but the 119 seems neat. What do you use it for, anon? +--- 2556795 +>>2556793 +>What do you use it for +Everything up to an including opening cans. It's never lost an edge. It's pretty fucking amazing. +--- 2556827 +>>2556795 +Sweet. I kinda want one... even just for the meme. Thanks anon! +--- 2556828 +>>2552010 (OP) +>>2556786 +>>2556793 +Fun fact, the official Danish scout knife, is pretty much a copy of the Buck, a little shorter, without the fuller or more "combat knife type guard" +and a slightly thinner blade, its called a Vangedal if anyone would be interested in that +grandpa had one, mom had one, now i have all of them, good times + +they do have this weird thing, where there is a rifle stud on the belt loop, that goes into the handle, on the other side of the snap you can see in the front on some models +--- 2556832 +>>2556828 +Thanks, brudder! They actually seem awesome. Aesthetic and functional. I'll check them out for sure. Thanks for the tip! +--- 2556837 +>>2556832 +look into their Senior models, or the Rover +but im pretty sure they are unobtainium outside Denmark, here you can see the hole the stud in the sheath fits into, never seen that on any other knife, also, they are intentionally made with pretty poor "quality" leather, not that its even close to bad, but its leather that is meant for you to treat it, leather fat, leather fat, leather fat, until it goes naturally brown unlike many modern dyed leather sheaths, which is kinda refreshing, this makes me wanna buy a new one too and actually take care of it! +--- 2556840 +>>2556837 +Ah, yeah and I'm I'm Canada, the land of...yeah. You never know, anon; I have cousins in Denmark, I've been meaning to visit for a long time. +--- 2556847 +>>2556840 +>I'm I'm Canada +>I've been meaning to visit for a long time. +please do, we have unironically nice places here, old towns, gently rolling roads, our forrests are probably the size of a small back yard in Canada, but if you can rent a boat and travels the coast? 10/10 + +ive been wanting to go to Canada too for a long time, but if i was to do it, the travel time, would have to be less then the time actually spent there. +really want a Grohmann Knives Trout and Bird Knife, think it would be amazinf for perch and pike +--- 2556858 +>>2552010 (OP) +--- 2556884 +>>2556877 +the scouts here are a religious orginization, Christian, INRI. "Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum" what more can i say? +--- 2556900 +>>2556884 +based +--- 2557013 +>>2552010 (OP) +I have come to preach my ways once more + +hail the khukuri +--- 2557218 +Is Damascus steel a meme? +[spoiler]I just like how it looks[/spoiler] +--- 2557226 +>>2552010 (OP) +Would post Condo Belgian Bowie but not at comp. Took photo with real camera :(. Ordered a Condor Yoshimo, Trilby, and container of hot cheeto dust +--- 2557360 +>>2556847 +Yeah, I live in Newfoundland, but I've got cousins that grew up in Denmark! Ever since I was a wee lad, I wanted to visit. I almost did back around 2015/16 but the Islamic Terror in Europe attacks freaked me out... +No word of a lie, my buddy, I have the grohmann #2 bird and trout! She is such an ergonomic knife. I have her stainless with the sabre grind. I use on trout, but would love to get her on rabbit (hare), and grouse. Stay tuned! +--- 2557366 +>>2557226 +>downsized from 88mb +--- 2557485 +mora companion vs mora companion HD. is one the obvious choice over the other? or is it preference, etc.? +--- 2557498 +>>2557218 +Yes, it just looks nice. Can you process an animal with? Then it's good. +--- 2557591 +>>2557485 +I own both in carbon and stainless. +From left to right: HD stainless, HD carbon, standard stainless, and standard carbon. +For me, HD moras are the obvious choice, mainly due to the slightly more obtuse edge grind. I've had problems with the standard mora rolling its edge during fairly normal "bushcraft" use. The standard mora has a 22-degree edge, whereas the HD mora has a 27-degree edge, making it more robust. +If you live in a wet climate, I'd recommend the HD in stainless steel; if you live in a dry climate, I'd recommend the HD in carbon steel because rust will not be an issue. Plus, the carbon steel version is easier to sharpen. +I live in a wet climate, so my pick is the HD in stainless. Great knoife. +--- 2557707 +How much of a meme are these survival knives for someone who only goes outdoors every few months? Just a better than nothing tool that I can keep in the car or throw in the pack. +--- 2557754 +>>2557707 +Ultimately it's all whatever. Just don't baton cheaper stuff unless there is info saying otherwise. Serrated edges can both help and hurt. Not great for rope/string cutting. +--- 2557772 +>>2557707 +>wow, it even has a hole +So does my wife, but you don't see me dragging her into the woods +--- 2557782 +>>2552221 +Kek, got the same ones in the extact same state +One is partially burnt i don't even remember why +--- 2557811 +>>2557218 +Depends on who is making it. Actual Damascus is not being made anymore. +--- 2557896 +>>2557707 +avoid serrations at all costs, absolute meme for 99% of /out/ activities +--- 2557911 +>>2557896 +I agree with this. For a military knife, yes, serrations may be useful. But not for a /out/ knife. +--- 2557943 +>>2552969 +140 checking in. Zero complaints for the price. I think I got mine for ~$70 shipped to the US a few years ago. +>I've heard they feel a little flimsy +Not even close. It's a solid beast of a knife +--- 2557947 +>>2557943 +Forgot to tag >>2553263 +--- 2557953 +>>2552010 (OP) +The Smith and Wesson outback kukri is really good. +--- 2558566 +>Opinel +--- 2558567 +How can I remove this coating on the spine so I can use a ferro rod? +--- 2558597 +waiting on my grohmann to arrive from the factory. will be my traveling companion to bruce paninsula this summer. looking forward to field dressing my first wendigo +--- 2558651 +>>2558566 +How do you boys sharpen your Opinel without ruining the convex edge? +--- 2558658 +>>2558597 +Gorgeous!! I have the #2 bird and trout... loves her! +--- 2558659 +>>2558651 +I've haven't had to sharpen mine yet, but I was wondering this too... YouTube might tell us +--- 2558668 +>>2558567 +file it off +--- 2558702 +>>2558567 +Are you really this dense? +--- 2558711 +>>2552049 +>>2552055 +I have literally never clicked on a post formatted like this and never will +--- 2558715 +>>2553739 +>says someone has tiny penis for using a knife +>works for the federal government +>uses spooderco +yeah checks out lol +--- 2558744 +>>2558659 +strop after use so you dont ever have to sharpen. some goes with scandi grinds bros. +--- 2558811 +>>2558744 +Thanks, brudder - that's what I've been doing! +--- 2558840 +>>2558809 +how's the small Morakniv one? Big enough as a general tool and cooking utility? +--- 2558912 +>>2558840 +It's perfect for food prep and small knife tasks. I usually pair it with that Condor kukri or one of my large fixed blades. +--- 2558923 +>>2558912 +should think it would be a great little carving knife, for spoons and such, didnt they recently release a version that is just straight scandi-grind instead of the retarded double grind +--- 2558949 +>>2558923 +Not sure, but I like the dual grind. Front is very slicey (tomatoes, peel apples etc) and the back end bites into wood nicely (obviously since it is classic Scandi). No hot spots in the handle at all. Well worth the ~$30 +The Cold Steel Pocket Bushman is also a great, lightweight beast that should be in everyones pack. +--- 2558953 +>>2558949 +>I like the dual grind +ive just been using Mora´s for 28+ years, so when they suddently change things like that i hate it out of principal +--- 2558954 +So I guess full tang is the consensus? +--- 2558957 +>>2558954 +depends on use case, steel, handle material and how much you watch youtube +what do you want you knife to do Anon? +>batonny chop chop? +yeah sure +>kitchen duty? +not necessary at all +>stabbing bad guys Rambo style survive the appocalypse? +sure +>normal sane person knife tasks? +nah +--- 2558971 +>>2558954 +I just don't see the reason to go for folding. There's really nothing I'm going to use it for that I wouldn't use the big knife for and I want my big knife to be full tang. +--- 2558973 +>>2558658 +the sleek profile of the #2 and #3 are quite nice. would like to have one (or 3) with stag horn handle. hope you have a good quality strop to keep that cutting edge razor sharp! +>>2558659 +>>2558651 +--- 2559020 +>>2558957 +Full tang on a kitchen/butcher knife is actually very important. Probably more important than an /out/ knife unless you're doing stupid stuff with it. +--- 2559022 +>>2559020 +Not him, but that's a NO from me +--- 2559023 +>>2559020 +A chopping cleaver, yes +--- 2559024 +>>2558597 +>>2558658 +I have the #4 survival. Good knife, beautiful and feels good in the hand. But I have to admit I'm kinda disappointed in the cheaper carbon steel that it's made with. It doesn't hold a great edge. It stays sharp with minimal maintenance, but the razor sharp edge you get after a strop vanishes almost immediately upon using it. It also rusts very easily so you need to keep it oiled at all times. + +I have also had pic related in my pocket for the past two years and it has never let me down. Their stainless steel seems better than their carbon steel. +--- 2559025 +>>2559023 +No, even just a regular butcher knife. My girlfriend is a chef and she has broken knives just doing basic chef work on more than one occasion. Cutting through things like squash and yams can do a number on a cheaper knife. +--- 2559037 +>>2559024 +Was originally going to get a Mora Garberg because of its full tang and 14C28N steel but once I discovered the Grohmamns I was already sold. +I digress. That's the price we pay for having hollow grinds compared to other cutting edge geometries. This is why people end up with huge knife collections. Nice folder anon, stay sharp out there. +--- 2559040 +>>2559037 +God damnit. After posting that pic I bought the mora anyway. I will never financially recover from this +--- 2559045 +>>2556828 +I really like that sheath +--- 2559047 +>>2552010 (OP) +--- 2559050 +How does /out/ like my Camillus US Army utility knife from the 80s? + +I randomly found it one day going through my grandpas stuff. +--- 2559074 +>>2559047 +>everything behind the knife in focus +carbons always look cool. noice knoife +>>2559050 +looks sturdy +--- 2559169 +>>2559025 +Your GF sounds like a fucking retard +--- 2559358 +>>2559074 +I had a second picture of it with the knife in focus but the background looked like shit so I deleted it + +Ig I prefer a nice background with somewhat shitty knife focus +--- 2559362 +>>2559074 +Here’s a better picture of my knife with a less than exciting background + +My mom and my gf >>2559169 +wanted to know how well I was eating so I took a pic of my lunch +--- 2559385 +>>2558702 +Yes +--- 2559427 +>>2559362 +>coldsteel srk +Good looking piece anon +--- 2559475 +Bought in 2018. There are definitely better knives out there, but if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. +--- 2559478 +>>2552221 +You could have bought a garberg and one companion with the amount you spent on 5 companions +--- 2559479 +>>2559040 +I love my garberg +--- 2559492 +>>2552133 +...that's an anal vibrater isn't it +ISNT IT +--- 2559681 +>>2559169 +You sound like someone who forgot to take their meds this morning. Calm down and wipe the foam off your mouth. +--- 2559764 +>>2557943 +Nice. Also, cute catto. +--- 2559854 +For a folder (and as my backup) this has never let me down. +--- 2559866 +>>2552029 +>though the stand with ukraine shit on their site is gay +They are a Ukraine-based knife company. +--- 2559885 +>>2559866 +If you make an order over 100USD, your knife will come with a signed letter from Zelensky demanding that you give him more money +--- 2559939 +>>2559866 +Hope our Russian bros take them down +--- 2560140 +>>2552088 +underrated +--- 2560153 +Allow me to hijack the thread for a moment; if any anons have had any dealings with their knives' manufacturer feel free to share your experiences. List your model, brand and your 'takeaway'. I'm hoping this will help others make more informed purchases. +--- 2560221 +https://youtu.be/mcE0aAhbVFc [Embed] +--- 2560681 +>>2559492 +anythings a dildo if you are brave enough +--- 2560689 +>>2560153 +Great Eastern Cutlery are really nice but overhyped and overpriced on the 2ndary market. +--- 2561920 +>>2553249 +You're a good friend Anon. +--- 2561938 +tacticoooool +--- 2562045 +Do multitools count? +--- 2562181 +Does anybody whittle here? Are the beavercraft tools any good? +Will I fuck up my Opinel n6 by whittling? It's a nice knife but seems rather "thin"? +--- 2562302 +>>2552010 (OP) +>mora carbon +You really don't kneed any more +--- 2562303 +>>2552010 (OP) +family photo I had for an old thread +kukri is my fav +--- 2562306 +>>2562303 +newest editions to the family including the finnish axe I restored, (gotta re-do the handle) the knife I forged for myself, and a leatherman I found for cheap at an estate sale +--- 2562310 +>>2562303 +Nice Quartermaster's Knife. Is it a vintage Catteraugus? +Also, what's the story on the Jet Pilot's Survival knife? +--- 2562485 +>>2562306 +The hell is that piece of steel stuck to the back of the axe head? Oh btw, nice shiv you forged. +--- 2562517 +>>2562310 +I picked up the Catteragus from some boomers gunshop many years ago, it was super rusted out but I cleaned it up and its served me ever since. +and the jet pilots knife I'm guessing you mean the one with the cork handle that is super shiny, not much of a story on that one, I got it at a local army surplus store in russia near my grandparents village. + +>>2562485 +as for that hunk of steel, its basically a hammer head used to drive pieces of wood into a log to split it down the middle, Its a Finnish lumber axe. Heres a good informational video that talks more about the design +https://youtu.be/cr-3TZ79oC8 [Embed] +--- 2562541 +>>2562517 +>from some boomers gunshop +Nice score. +Yes, I was talking about the cork handle one. It looks a lot like the Randall Jet Pilot SK. Letters F, LL, and NN in pic rel. +--- 2562637 +I like it +--- 2563965 +what are some good sharpening tools or systems that do not require you to commit hours of your time learing how to compulsively rub steel on rocks in a precise and repeatable way? I just want sharpen knives with as little guess work as possible +--- 2564011 +I use buck 110. Sewed leather around it to give it better grip +--- 2564021 +>>2558597 +I waited for over three months for mine and I thought it was never going to arrive, custom made I guess but it's a beauty. +--- 2564022 +>>2563965 +Lansky Sharpening System. They also do the BladeMedic which (while a pull-through) is good in a pinch and light enough to be packable. +--- 2564031 +>>2552010 (OP) +I just use this old rough rider it gets the job done good elephant toe knife. +--- 2564038 +>>2562541 +I like E a lot +>>2552056 +Why are people hating on buck? +--- 2564070 +>>2556837 +>the star +--- 2564119 +>>2562303 +>brass knuckles +Going to beat up bears with your bear hand? +--- 2564181 +>>2564119 +I mean, if I was to die from a bear attack, I would want it said that I went down beating it bloody with a pair of knuckles. +--- 2564201 +>>2564181 +Get it fren? Bear hand? do you understand the reference I am making? +--- 2565016 +>>2552969 +It's a great knife! I would actually recommend this knife and the others in the same lineup over the moras. Extremely sturdy knifes mate. good choice! +--- 2565020 +TRC Apocalpyse Virus Edition. +--- 2565166 +new mora ordered my second today +--- 2565174 +>>2565166 +why would you buy a mora for that much money? The whole point of a mora is that it's decent quality and CHEAP. If you have money to burn on nice knives that you don't really need there are way better options. +--- 2565198 +>>2565174 +>paying 240 euros for a recycled 3 inch knife + +bro what are you doing +--- 2565564 +I use OPs mora every day in the garden because I'm a professional garden. +Water proof handle is very good also when steralizing blade, sheath very good, knife cheap enough to replace as needed without asstears. + +Buy orange colour so not losing knife. No sitting on camouflage knife +--- 2565567 +>>2565166 +Anon. You've bought a knife that's been rehandled with wood and paid more for it than my boots are worth. +For what purpose? Cardboard cutting? + +Morakniv is like jhonny Walter whiskey, trying to buy the more expensive one is a scam. Cringe acting +--- 2565719 +>>2565564 +>Buy orange colour so not losing knife. +This is good advice. I have the green one and after about two trips out I had to put blaze orange tape on the scabbard. +--- 2565733 +>>2565681 +get a Surge +--- 2565744 +>>2565564 +>I'm a professional garden. +--- 2565815 +>>2552056 +Moraknivs är made för big NVRDIC hands +--- 2565841 +>>2565744 +>It is better to be a garden in a warrior than a war in a gardener +--- 2565849 +Finlang Making SA28 and BOЛК Cтaль. Chinkshit but does the job +--- 2565911 +>>2565567 +you never will slice a summer sausage with a quality knife. stay mad. +--- 2566103 +When you spend this fucking long to create a non functional arrowhead from stone. Cavemen how did you do it? +--- 2566106 +>>2566103 +use stone type who is arrow head +--- 2566114 +>>2566106 +English? +--- 2566125 +>>2562541 +A or U are the most versatile in your collection. +picrel: all you will ever need. The Ranger skinner is also an amazing herbalist knife and is perfect for cleaning Dungeness crab and fiash (only idiots don't take the organs out of crab before cooking). +--- 2566127 +>>2564011 +113 > everything else +--- 2566141 +>>2564038 +Because most of their blade designs aren't practical and they use a lower grade steel. You also are paying for the brand name and the mystique. They're like ford--most of there products are boomer crap but there are some absolute gems if you know what to look for. +--- 2566143 +>>2566125 +>your collection +That's from the Randall Custom Shop ordering page. +--- 2566154 +>>2553095 +That sounds right, I know the manufacturering process involes vacuum inert gas atomization. It can be forged, not just used as a coating. I see it in high end kitchen knives. +--- 2566156 +Does anyone know why Whitby stopped selling via Amazon? +--- 2566160 +>>2566143 +Ok, Randal. +--- 2566166 +>>2564011 +>Folder, opened, in a fixed blade sheeth +>Handle strap prevents closing the blade +...what is wrong with you +--- 2566174 +>>2566114 +brain? +--- 2566183 +>>2558954 +If your using it to gut creatures to cook get a full tang. Folders are shit for processing meat because they get Offal in the folding part and are hard to clean. Folder handels also suck, ergonomically, compared to folders (especially for skinning knives). +Full tang blades are also usually thicker and can take more abuse. +--- 2566186 +>>2566183 +>*fixed blade handle > folder handle +--- 2566188 +>>2566166 +I sewed the sheeth myself. Also I literally say why i made the leather strap on handle. Grip +--- 2566190 +>>2566127 +Yeah but it's hard to find in stores and you can't get knives mailed to PO box iirc +--- 2566191 +>>2565564 +>Garden knife +Mora isn't a garden knife: this is a garden knife for master gardeners. +--- 2566194 +>>2566188 +that's not the point +>>2566190 +Any store that is a Buck dealer can get one on order for you. Knife center will ship internationally and to PO boxes. +--- 2566198 +>>2566188 +Why didn't you just get a fixed blade knife in the first place? +--- 2566205 +>>2566191 +very funny +--- 2566211 +>>2566205 +Its quite sharp though hard to sharpen. Opens boxes and cuts chord; roots; branches and dirt, I'm sure you can batton with it but why. +--- 2566214 +>>2566198 +Because I like buck 110 +--- 2566215 +>>2566214 +To clarify, it's small but heavy-ish for its size +--- 2566217 +Plus you can just buy another knife if for some reason you need full tang + +To redirect the bullying, why are half the knives posted shown on clean wood background? Do you guys walk around your toolshop with your gear? +--- 2566220 +>>2566217 +Don't you blankyshame us because we live in wooden boxes. +--- 2566230 +>>2566217 +>dirty AF +>folder with wrapped handle +gr8 b8 +--- 2566237 +>>2552010 (OP) +Does anything whittle like a mora? It must be the skandi grind bc I've never had another knife come close +--- 2566308 +>>2566237 +>Mora +You set a very low bar. +>Scandi grind +I see you never made it past beginner level. +--- 2566356 +>>2566308 +>shits on proven brand despite anon's personal experiece with it +>makes baseless assumptions about anon's level of experience +Checks out. Enlighten us with your vastly superior tool and blade profile of choice. +--- 2566371 +>>2566230 +>>I-IS THAT DIRT?? ON AN OUTDOOR KNIFE??? +>>2566220 +>blankyshame +Sir that is my vest +--- 2566381 +>>2566371 +>I don't know how to field clean or do basic maintenance +You don't take care of your shit and are clearly retarded. From harvesting herbs and mushrooms to gutting animals: non idiots field clean their shit before sheathing it and finish cleaning it when they get home. +>>2566356 +>Defending Mora and the sharpening metal developed for shit metals. +I remember when I was 12. +Its a good knife to learn how to sharpen... for kids. My blade of choice for what? +>Baseless assumptions +lol, baseless. lamo. +--- 2566405 +>>2566371 +--- 2566411 +>>2566381 +>going home +Lol, lmao +>>2566405 +Yes the big eyes were intentional. I mean look at the rest of the pic. This is how I schizo flex +--- 2566412 +>>2566381 +So you're just trolling, then. Got it. +--- 2566641 +>>2566412 +>Gets called out for being retarded +>nooo, you're just a troll +Whatever you need to tell yourself to make it through the day. +--- 2566705 +>>2566641 +>continues to avoid posting a better knife +Yep +--- 2567245 +recently bought a "used" (basically new) Ganzo on ebay. very nice and smooth, opening and closing feels quite satisfying +--- 2567256 +>>2565166 +oof diff --git a/out/2552921.txt b/out/2552921.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..103a9690e217eaaba2652bdb9ef11462c340083f --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2552921.txt @@ -0,0 +1,205 @@ +----- +--- 2552921 +>not even 2 hours away from my car +>slip over on loose gravel +>my 60lb pack pulls my off the trail +>land on my back on a slope +>slide at least 100ft down +>screaming the whole way +>slash my hands up trying to stop the slide +>thought I was going to die +--- 2552923 +>>2552921 (OP) +>60lb pack +>clumsy retard +>frogposter +God messed up this time, he'll get it right the next +--- 2552930 +>>2552921 (OP) +If this actually happened to you then congratulations. You almost feel what it's like. + +Personally I've almost died like 7 times and I joke about them all. +--- 2552939 +>>2552923 +I almost died and you think it's a good thing just because I don't use the exact same gear as you +--- 2552941 +>>2552939 +Not him but yeah. If you don’t have anyone else to talk to about your exciting experience maybe you should be getting some IRL friends instead of doing this on the internet. +--- 2552942 +>>2552941 +Found the redditor +--- 2552943 +>2552939 +>I almost died and you think it's a good thing just because I don't use the exact same gear as you +not him but death to all frogposters +--- 2552944 +>>2552941 +What does that have to do with my post. +--- 2552945 +>you don't have friends you should die +>you aren't UL you should die +>you post frogs you should die +--- 2552949 +>>2552921 (OP) +>go mountaineering +>am the only one using a wrist strap on my ice axe +>get mocked for how fiddly it is everytime we make a switchback on the glacier +>get to a boulder field +>lose footing because of a loose rock +>fall down 5 meters before my axe lodges itself between 2 boulders +>come away with nothing but scrapes and bruises +>hang by my wrist strap +Thanks wrist strap. +--- 2553040 +>>2552921 (OP) +>from image immediately deleted by Jannies +Why? Can someone point to the rule? +--- 2553048 +>>2553040 +Complaining about the moderation is against the site-wide rules. +--- 2553051 +>>2553040 +was the image out related? +--- 2553060 +>>2553040 +our hot pocket eaters are retards +--- 2553061 +>>2553048 +Not knowing the difference between a legitimate question and a complaint is a sign of brain damage. + +>>2553051 +No, it was a crying Pepe animated gif. Do all images have to be out-related? +--- 2553062 +>>2553040 +Yeah the janny here is relatively based and laid back but has a weird hatred of pepes and apus +--- 2554009 +>>2553062 +>has a weird hatred of pepes and apus +we'll allow it. + +>>2552921 (OP) +>same shit happened to me, +>tumbled +>then slid +>broke the phone on the way down +>broke my leg +>drag my ass back uphill and set the bone and splint it. +>improvise a set of crutches +>limp my ass six miles back to the trailhead and the car. + +Shit's funny now, and I almost NEVER make fun of people with trekking poles now, even if they're not carrying anything. +--- 2556265 +>>2552921 (OP) +real? +--- 2556269 +>>2553062 +Yeah as far as moderation goes /out/ is pretty great. Uh, uh I mean mods suck my cock wait no that's gay uhhhh +--- 2557538 +>>2552941 +>Tells internet user to not use internet +>continues to use internet himself + +Please think before you post. +--- 2557630 +>>2556269 +/out/ doesn't have jannies or mods idiot they come from other blue boards like /lgbt/ +--- 2557648 +>>2552939 +You‘re laughing + +My hands hurt and you‘re laughing +--- 2557679 +>>2554009 +Fuck that sounds rough. Getting a serious injury like that while deep /out/ is one of my fears +--- 2557685 +>>2553062 +The jannies on /o/ and /diy/ don't give a shit about frogs. Whoever moderates here is a special kind of autistic. +--- 2557688 +>>2552921 (OP) +>>2552949 +>be me +>climbing Mt Shasta +>it is getting steeper and icier but I'm too lazy to pull out my crampons and put them on +>slip and slide back down like 500ft +--- 2557694 +>>2552921 (OP) +Post a greentext story when you actually die. Let us know if you are allowed to fuck goats in heaven or have to suck satan's peepee in hell. Also, is god based (no trannies allowed in heaven) or not (allows bankers). +--- 2558023 +>>2552921 (OP) +Nioce +>be as a sixth grader way back when, field trip w class to a very nice mountain park area 15 miles from school. +>a nice canyon with a tiny stream that runs most of year, a trail goes up canyon. +>me n my buddy decide to go off trail to a higher ledge way above trail just because to get another view of trail, its all beautiful, huge boulders size of twenty city busses if they were all crumpled in a ball, just scattered. +>you can't really appreciate the size unless you get a far-off view to imagine how the separated from hig canyon and rolled to where the are, as the main trail goes between them. +>I'm abit more agile that my fat tall friend, tell him not to follow when we get to a tricky part. +>he followed anyway, steps on loose rock and starts slide down to a five foot ledge onto another slide then three foot ledge and slides down 20 feet. +>I hear him going AaaaAaaAhh whump AAAhh gurgle thump and dust going up. +Go as fast as I can to catch up to him. +He's all dusty and tore his shirt and bounced off a Cactus. +I laughed a little but helped him up and pulled stickers off his back. +We didn't tell anybody but walked back to campground and waited for everyone else to comeback. +Good times +--- 2558060 +>>2557679 +As long as it's fixable with first aid, you'll be ok. +and shock is your friend if you know that it's happening and use it to your advantage to set the bone before it swells up and splint it. + +Always have an IFAK and know how to use it and you'll have nothing to fear. +--- 2558115 +>>2552921 (OP) +A thread died because a fat faggot didnt +--- 2558135 +>>2552949 +>>2557688 +Thanks for the info. I will learn from your mistake and buy a wrist strap. +--- 2558136 +>>2558115 +this is /out/ newfag no one gives a shit besides 3 autists +--- 2558140 +>>2552921 (OP) +Did you keep going after that? And more importantly, do you have a quick first aid kit to clean wounds like that and dress them? + +>>2558136 +You cared enough to have a little tantrum here in the thread. Good contribution. +--- 2558142 +>>2558140 +>You cared enough to have a little tantrum here in the thread +What I just entered the thread you're autistic. +--- 2558172 +the first time I went /out/ I didn't have proper shoes and I chickened out of a ridge that fell right off the mountain on the side. I'm still certain I had a good chance of actually dying and maybe it would've been better that way. +--- 2559004 +>>2557648 +--- 2559019 +>>2553062 +The /out/ jannies are extremely unbased. I was once banned for telling someone to post nose, and have been banned numerous times for "racism". +--- 2559026 +>>2558023 +>bounced off a Cactus. +*inhales* +AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA +--- 2560977 +>>2558115 +bump +--- 2560984 +>>2557694 +> Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. +>Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” +--- 2562865 +>>2558115 +bump +--- 2565396 +>>2559019 +Maybe you should take the hint then. Also complaining about the janitors is against the site-wide rules. +--- 2565404 +>>2565396 +Post nose. +--- 2565479 +>>2565396 +maybe you should stop being such a kike, plenty of safe spaces on the internet for your kind already. +--- 2567426 +>>2554009 +Imagine if that was a compound fracture... + +Carry a tourniquet, peeps. Remember, HIGH AND TIGHT. +--- 2567447 +It was disappointing to discover OP's image wasn't a gory picture of his fucked-up hands. diff --git a/out/2553280.txt b/out/2553280.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..92e79c7374fd834df0a303be5d68a2b4d4422ed5 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2553280.txt @@ -0,0 +1,156 @@ +----- +--- 2553280 +>only one week left in winter +Did you go /out/doors this season, or did you only stay /in/doors and consume youtuber vlogs like a fat larper? +--- 2553281 +>>2553280 (OP) +The snowpack here has reached record levels. I'll be snowshoeing in June. Must be lame to live in an overly urbanized shithole where there's only one week of winter left. +It sucks to suck. +--- 2553293 +>>2553280 (OP) +>bringing a gun up a mountain + +retard +--- 2553294 +>>2553280 (OP) +Of course I went outside, and it hasn't snowed here a single time in the past 15 years. +--- 2553296 +>>2553280 (OP) +>Did you go /out/doors this season +ofc + +>or did you only stay /in/doors and consume youtuber vlogs like a fat larper? + +Careful you'll upset the u/k/raine newfags +--- 2553369 +>>2553280 (OP) +I don't think Rin appreciates you pointing the gun in her direction +--- 2553395 +>>2553293 +>he doesnt have a summit gun +Sad! +--- 2553397 +anime is enjoyed by people who have shitty personalities +--- 2553413 +>>2553395 +It's kind of cringe that OP brought a deringer while you brought an actual gun. +--- 2555357 +>>2553397 +have you forgotten where you are? +--- 2555362 +>>2553395 +What gat be that +--- 2555481 +>>2555362 +Poorus TX22 +--- 2555563 +>>2553280 (OP) +is that berthoud? +--- 2555589 +my job is outside and wintery +--- 2555597 +>>2555357 +that image is so fucking +old 4chan is top 500 and regularly dips into top 50 +--- 2556165 +>>2553293 +>Reddlt spacing +>Triggered by a picture of a firearm +post tits +--- 2558201 +>>2553413 +>makes fun of OP for bringing a 22 +>praises anon for bringing a 22 +lmao +--- 2558203 +>>2558201 +You can cope all you want, but a deringer is a woman's gun. And spoilers: you will never be a woman. +--- 2558207 +>>2558203 +sir, this is an /out/doors board + +>>>/pol/ is that way +--- 2558248 +>>2558207 +You're still stuck here >>2558203 +--- 2559076 +Just spent a week skiing innawoods and slept a night in a snow ditch in below -30°C degrees. Had to cover my face with a scarf since all the moisture from my breath crystallized around the sleeping bag's breathing hole and then rained on my face every time i rolled around. +--- 2559078 +>>2559076 +The next night was almost as cold and quite a lot more windy but a bit more sheltered. +--- 2559086 +>>2558203 +it can be a mans gun but only if it's chambered in 45-70 govt +--- 2559468 +>>2559076 +>>2559078 +That's fucking neat, anon +--- 2559791 +>>2559076 +>>2559078 +Have a (you), bearfucker +--- 2560073 +>>2559468 +>>2559791 +The view was also nice. There was an avalanche incident on the very same area just a couple of hours ago, apparently nobody died but still a good reminder that it can be dangerous to mess around the backcountry this time a year. +--- 2561313 +>>2560073 +is this scandinavia? +Those treeless mountains look too flat to be north america unless you're someplace weird like labrador or quebec +--- 2561401 +>>2561313 +North-East Finland. +--- 2561539 +>>2553280 (OP) +getting into ski-touring. liking it alot sofar. we had very little snow this year unfortunately. +--- 2562098 +>>2561539 +i started split boarding this winter, probably my number 1 favourite activity already. it’s all i want to do ever since the first time i went out. going to rogers pass this week +--- 2563578 +>>2561539 +how do you even get started anon? I really want to but equipment costs are too much for me to jump right in blind + +>inb4 ask the shop +unfortunately shops around here are full of weekend warrior resort skiiers only +--- 2563601 +>>2563578 +If you have to ask then you aren't ready. +--- 2564050 +>>2563578 +well i learned skiing as a kid and i go hiking and rock climbing in the alps so i just put 2 and 2 together. it's incredibly popular here in switzerland so finding a group was a breeze. i already had the hardshell gear from iceclimbing and bought the ski's and boots used. got the avalanch search thing for free from a coworker who didn't use it. +maybe you can get something cheap when a local shop replaces its rental material? i got my ice tools for virtually free like this. they aren't the best but get the job done. or just rent the stuff the first couple of times and buy stuff over time when its on sale. pay attention when you buy a used dynafit binding, they loose tension with age. keep in mind that you'll ruin your first pair of skis rather quickly so it's not really worth it buying the newest and bestest as you first set +--- 2564156 +>>2553293 +Sometimes I bring two, and I'm not even joking. +--- 2564163 +My only regret is not making it down to Utah for a ski trip. Then again, it seems like the crowds have gotten so bad that it might not be worth it anymore. +--- 2564164 +>>2556165 +Said the guy who's too much of a pussy to go anywhere without his steel pacifier +--- 2564394 +>>2564164 +>pathetic female attempt at emasculation +Nice try, beaf flaps, now post tits. +--- 2564397 +>>2564394 +>beaf +Never go full retard. +--- 2566478 +Is the season now officially over everywhere? +--- 2566504 +>>2564163 +it's worth it if you stay near the top of the mountains and hike out to the good bowls +back country is always available if you're kitted out and are interested in that type of skiing +--- 2568029 +>>2566478 +the season is alive and well. we were blessed with fresh snow here in switzerland +--- 2568077 +>>2553294 +Florida? +--- 2568078 +>>2566478 +wtf? no +--- 2568087 +>>2553280 (OP) +>Did you go /out/doors this season, or did you only stay /in/doors +not as much as i normally would, we´ve had very wet winter here diff --git a/out/2553468.txt b/out/2553468.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..99de06f09518a606e82b56f3d8bbf8727617057b --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2553468.txt @@ -0,0 +1,254 @@ +----- +--- 2553468 +What's the easiest way to die while being /out/? +--- 2553471 +>>2553468 (OP) +In my experience? It's always gonna be dumb shit. + +Trying to wade across rivers with too much current. + +Climbing on slippery/icy rocks, breaking something and unable to get help. + +Fucking around and finding out with wildlife. + +Hypothermia or heat stroke. Honestly easily to over do it especially by yourself. By time you start to notice it's already too late. + +Dehydration... Drink all ur water first worry about finding more later. + +Crazy people can be reasoned with/ manipulated. Someone on drugs cannot. Please understand the difference... For example a skitzo having an episode- you can use your phone camera to prove to them you're real and anything else their seeing isn't. Their brains cannot fake shit on screens. + +In cities/large towns say over 100,000 population. The mentality of "not my monkeys not my problem" will take you far. It's fine to help someone in need if you can, but only if it preserves your well-being. +--- 2553492 +Being drunk off your ass on vodka in a shitty tent and redneck stove on a mountain in a snowstorm at night is a pretty good way to do it +--- 2553496 +>>2553468 (OP) +Noguns is the best way to die while being /out/. +9/10 /out/ problems are solved with guns. +>Lost: 3 evenly spaced shots every hour or two or when you think you might be in earshot of someone +>Animal: Shoot it +>Hungry: Eat the animal you shot +>Cold and wet need fire: You have between 6 and 15 metal capsules filled with fire guarantee powder. +>Bees: The gun cannot help you, run +>Drowning: Try shooting the water idk learn to swim what are you black. +>Predatory humans: Shoot them and take their stuff. +--- 2553498 +>>2553468 (OP) +Drowning is a very common one. +--- 2553500 +>>2553468 (OP) +river crossings. +--- 2553502 +>>2553468 (OP) +mummy's curse +--- 2553599 +>>2553468 (OP) +exposure +--- 2553623 +>>2553468 (OP) +Being a dumbass with a gun. +--- 2553624 +>>2553468 (OP) +my guess is dehydration/disorientation in desert areas +primarily from people who aren't familiar with the terrain or region and don't realize just how intense the sun can be out there, dehydrating them quickly, which makes them get disoriented, then getting lost, and dying from exposure +--- 2553630 +>>2553468 (OP) +>Falling into a Ravine +>A Falling rock hits your head. +--- 2553878 +>>2553496 +Go back to /a/ and /k/ +--- 2553983 +>>2553496 +Smokeless powder is absolutely fucking terrible for starting fires, you're better off trying just about anything else instead of wasting time cracking cartridges open to get a tiny amount of powder that will go poof and leave you still very cold and gay and retarded, except now you're a cold gay retard with no ammo. +--- 2553987 +>>2553983 +>very cold and gay and retarded +kek +--- 2554010 +Underestimating nature because you are used to infrastructure +People don't seem to realize that there is not just a warm door to walk into around the corner if something happens +you are just one stupid mistake from dying a faggots death at all times when /out/ +--- 2554014 +>>2553468 (OP) +Relaxing +--- 2554016 +Underestimating wet weather conditions especially in early spring and autumn or in the mountains often leads to the number one cause of death: Hypothermia. + +Getting lost or injuring your feet/legs is probably not far behind. + +And also not having a gun. +--- 2554116 +>>2554010 +It really instills a lot of respect for people that came over from Europe to the new world. +--- 2554157 +>>2553983 +Have you ever burned modern powder? It burns far slower than black powder. Pull the bullet out of a rifle cartridge and pour the powder in a small pile. Touch it off with a match. You get a huge flare up that will last a couple seconds and can start dry tinder easily. +--- 2554160 +>>2554157 +>if you have a match and dry tinder you can light a fire +yeah +--- 2554162 +>>2553468 (OP) +Depends on your definition of easy. Low effort = exposure or drowning. Quickest = fall to your death. Least painful = CO poisoning in a hot tent. +--- 2554586 +>>2554162 +basic needs for survival +1) AIR, thus drowning and allergies closing off your throat valve/lungs +2) Water, dehydration, bleeding out, and generally not having enough water will cause you to be a blabbering/quiet death in most cases. Also drinking most water sources without filtering/boiling will lead to massive amounts of Diarrhea, a major killer in third-world countries and places with shit water. +3) Food, but most Americans are fat-asses that could naturally survive for weeks, sometimes Months without food. Also most people don't know what is safe to eat(mushrooms are crap for nutrition and return on investment), berries are often VERY POISONOUS, same for several kinds of leaves and roots. Most don't know how to kill, bleed, skin and process their own meats(half of hunters included here) And fish are becoming more and more stocked by the respective states that have area's to fish in just to meet demand. +4) SHELTER, this one can jump up to the second place. In extreme heat or extreme cold(water/wind/sleet/snow). This is more important than a fucking fire. But everyone thinks that a fire is the one solution to all their woe's, and end up burning themselves and everyone else's homes to ash in dry regions. +Someone doesn't dress for the weather, goes to a hiking trail/camp area, gets lost or spooked/chased/drug bender. Doesn't have a sweater/windbreaker and starts freezing. Drifts off to sleep. Passes. Desert climates tends to catch those who live in them off guard way too frequently. Go and its over a hundred during the day. Only have a tanktop/swimming trunks and t-shirt on. Get lost, fart around, turns to night. Desert turns cold FAST. Sweaty clothes chill them, they shiver, dehydrate. Die. People go to ski-slope, ski off trail. Get lost. No reception because most mountains block all signals. Sun goes down. GET VERY COLD. Didn't pack a blanket/wind barrier. Freeze. +Major injuries, usually from falling/slipping, jumping over shit for shits/tiktok. +--- 2554750 +>>2554586 +>Americans are fat-asses that could naturally survive for weeks, sometimes Months without food. +Truly the most powerful race. When then world supply lines collapse and food is gone, Americans will rise from the ashes months later into a new golden American age. +--- 2554773 +exposure, heat or cold is easily number 1. then injury including from a slip or fall. i'd think animals or just being a general idiot is number 3. plenty of people get drunk or high and then fall, drown, hit an artery with a blade, fight a bear, shoot them selves or whatever else. +--- 2555463 +Sasquatch probably +--- 2555813 +Wearing cotton. +--- 2555815 +falling +--- 2555822 +>>2553468 (OP) +Being killed by angry people with snowmobiles (aka "an avalanche"). +--- 2555926 +>>2555815 +while taking a selfie at the edge of a cliff +--- 2556078 +>>2553471 +>in my experience +do you die often? +--- 2556083 +>>2553496 +Video game child logic +--- 2556374 +>>2553468 (OP) +Stupidity. +--- 2556390 +Going by deaths that have occured near me, and in no particular order: +>fixed blade knives +for some reason several outdoorspeople have apparently died in my area from either accidentally stabbing themselves when they slip and fall on their backpack, or accidentally cutting a major artery in their leg (perhaps due to their sheath failing?) +>avalanches, especially snowmobilers +>tree wells, skiers and snowboarders +>snow buried stream, snowboarders +>using small craft during a storm +>diving in shallow water +>swept away by currents, rivers +>hypothermia +>equipment failure, rock climbing +>wildlife (very rare, usually from cornering or pursuing animals) +>boat collisions, or getting hit by a boat + +Overpacking and poorly packed rucks seems to be a frequent issue. Carrying a rifle is fun, I think less convenient than one would expect. Usually wildlife is a long ways off by the time you get there. And it isn't usually very convenient to hunt for things, with the exception of grouse. +--- 2558059 +>>2555463 +THIS +--- 2558113 +>>2553468 (OP) +Easiest? Suicide. Most likely? Dehydration or exposure, depending on the weather. +--- 2559503 +Lack of water and unfamiliarity with climate. It's easier to die in hot places. We can live a long time without food, not so much without water. +Aimo Koivunen's story tells us that even without fire its not that fucking hard to survive in the winter. + +Everything else can more or less be planned with gear. There's a very low chance will die of hypothermia if you're going somewhere and know how to prepare for the cold. If you get too hot you can open up your jacket or take off layers. As long as you have a fire and a shelter that blocks wind you can be pretty comfy. + +https://youtu.be/h8HPzyZPyL0 [Embed] +--- 2559522 +>>2556078 +kek this made me laugh, thank you anon +--- 2560180 +not replying to this post +--- 2560453 +Falling, drowning, unpreparedness for weather, laying on the earth, lightning, falling wood or earth, and self-impalement/lacerations with huge knifes you don't need. +--- 2560472 +stab yourself accidentally to thigh and pull knife out +--- 2560774 +>>2553468 (OP) +Underequipment +--- 2560784 +>>2553468 (OP) +>Easiest +Hunting accident, hands down. Wander into the wrong spot, don't wear orange, catch a .30-06 to the dome, wake up on the big gold escalator to the clouds not knowing what happened. +--- 2561095 +>>2553468 (OP) +Easiest is powersports by far. Handful of people get killed every year in my state in ATV or snowmobile accidents. Just drive them too fast, fail to negotiate a curve, 50MPH headlong into a tree and you get to see Queen Elizabeth II again (unless you've been a righteous person, which I doubt since you're on here). + +Also, cliffs. The most beautiful parts of nature are also the ones where you die if you step the wrong way. A lot of deaths occur on mountains in bad weather conditions when the rocks are slippery. + +Compounding both of those is alcohol or other intoxicants. Most people that die /out/ are not sober when it happens. It's a ton of fun to get drunk or high and ride snowmobiles at reckless speeds or climb around on mountains in the rain. Sometimes it just kills you. +--- 2562267 +Compelling natural force, duh +--- 2562290 +>pop some tramadol + alcohol +>fall asleep in -30C temperature +--- 2562607 +>>2553468 (OP) +farting REALLY hard, sometimes everything else starts flowing out with the fart, or in the worst case, it backfires and blows your head clean off. Seen it happen too many times. +--- 2563370 +>>2553468 (OP) +1) injury +2) exposure +3) dehydration +Pretty much in that order but any of them can lead to another one of these being the one that actually kills you +--- 2563852 +>>2553468 (OP) +It depends on what you mean by easiest and what you're outing is +If you're on a mountain it's probably just taking a tumble +If you're camping I'd wager hypothermia +--- 2564687 +>>2553468 (OP) +alcohol, night and swimming +--- 2564723 +>>2554750 +still need fiber, nutrients that get pissed out, salt being one, water being another, look up those somewhat messed up diets for those going long term no real food to keep from fucking up your internal organs and surviving +--- 2564734 +How painful/instant is a falling tree branch death? Not talking about a whole tree just imagine like a 10 ft branch breaking off and landing on your tent +--- 2566990 +>>2553983 +Paul Harrell did a video on this. Rifle powder can and will get a fire going. +--- 2566997 +>>2553496 +Made the euragatans seethe anon, guns from scary vidya is too much for them +--- 2567676 +bear +it's always bear +--- 2567776 +>>2553468 (OP) +Telling nobody where you’re going. +If you’re a noob then it’s going out of your depth. +--- 2567868 +>>2553496 +>>Lost: 3 evenly spaced shots every hour or two or when you think you might be in earshot of someone +There are 130db survival whistles that only weigh 1oz. +--- 2567870 +>>2553496 +based +europites seething itt lol +--- 2567883 +>>2559503 +>https://youtu.be/h8HPzyZPyL0 [Embed] [Embed] +this was pleasant thnx +--- 2567889 +>>2554586 +At the very least know basic land navigation or have a pre-set panic azimuth in terms of getting lost. +--- 2567890 +>>2555463 +based squatchposter +--- 2567895 +>>2553468 (OP) +Getting married +https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0910/Glacier-Park-murder-Newlywed-confesses-pushing-her-groom-off-a-cliff +--- 2567908 +>>2567676 +*beer +ftfy +--- 2568064 +>>2567895 +>textspeak in 2013 +Dead giveaway. Learnt from experience, this nigga died for some BPD clutz. +--- 2568136 +>>2553496 +if this is the average type of person who goes /out/ i guess we can add "getting shot by a retard" to the list diff --git a/out/2554084.txt b/out/2554084.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a7ddeb1a16740d64930c84e3022911217b96f5c0 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2554084.txt @@ -0,0 +1,870 @@ +----- +--- 2554084 +I've never felt creeped out by hikes or camping trips abroad. But I often get creeped out in the US and Canada. And I think I had a legitimate encounter with a feral man in Tennessee. I guess part of it might be the vastness of the forests and the wilderness but even so when you get "that feeling" it feels deeper than that. + +I was camping in the Unaka mountain wilderness area and I had a feeling I was being watched. This was a single night hike and I was on the verge of turning around because I just started feeling sick. Not as in feeling ill but I sensed in my stomach something was wrong like I was being watched. When I went to sleep I was frozen with fear in my tent and I heard shuffling outside and just lay there sweating like crazy. I left a pool of sweat even though it wasn't hot out. When I woke up there were prints all around my tent - they weren't boot prints they were in the shape of a human but were flat like somebody was wearing moccasins or something. + +To this day I am convinced this was a feral person, which have been known to exist in Appalachia. + +Anybody else feel way more creeped out in North American forests than when they camp abroad? You'd think it would be the other way around due to familiarity. And have any Euros felt creeped out in North America? +--- 2554086 +>>2554084 (OP) +You can't run away from mental illness. Traveling doesn't make it better anon... +--- 2554088 +>>2554086 +>>2554086 +How is it mental illness. Feral people are documented and it's a first hand experience. Also, many more people go missing in the US Wilderness and many who are found have stories about feral people, or people who hide behind trees. Trust me it's real and I saw it myself. I always get the creeps worse than I had it before when camping now. +--- 2554089 +Pray to God for mercy and peace and no harm will come. +--- 2554090 +>>2554088 +I live in Appalachia and I have seen several things on my hikes that never made any sense. Shifting landscapes, light rods flying past during the day, laughter in the woods, silence so deep that you feel it. The woods of Appalachia are old and plenty of spooky ghosts. +--- 2554091 +>>2554084 (OP) +>I had a feeling I was being watched. +So the gillie suit and new camofluaged plague doctor mask worked out. +--- 2554095 +In Canada, yes. Mid and Southern US is fine. There is a difference between feeling creeped out because of a moose or bear nearby and feeling "creeped out" like in your story. + +The only thing that came close to my Canada experience in Europe was in the Finnish Lappland near the Russian border. This is no man's land, +No trails, no humans, only swamps, hills, birch forests, moose and bear. I had not seen another person for five or six days. It was early in the morning already light out and I was sleeping with my head against the inner and outer tent fabric. Suddenly my dream starts to get lucid and I dream/hear someone chanting, repetitive like a shaman. Something is pressed against my neck and I wake up. I don't move. Chanting continues. Eventually he releases my neck from the outside and I hear him walk away. It felt like he marked or blessed me for something good and bad at the same time. I didn't lose the feeling for the rest of the trip even today maybe. +--- 2554101 +>>2554095 +My nigga you got molested by Vladimir Putin in the woods. +--- 2554126 +>>2554084 (OP) +Do you live somewhere with nonFeral People? I grew up in Siskiyou County California and now I live in the Mississippi Bayou and there were/are plenty of Feral People in both. No land taxes, no sales taxes, no income taxes, no healthcare taxes, no disability taxes, no social security taxes, just people living, and yes most of them wear moccasins. If a Feral Person isn’t wearing moccasins they’re probably a murderer and will make you a part of an urban legend to steal your boots. +--- 2554133 +>>2554090 +yes. that feeling of ancientness is something i love about these mountains and it's why I show them so much respect. just like in the middle of wide open spaces you feel impossibly small, here you feel impossibly young. I want to disappear into this place. +--- 2554139 +>feral people +you mean meth addicts? +--- 2554146 +>>2554139 +We call them the "unhoused" now. +--- 2554158 +>>2554084 (OP) +Perhaps your just a gianormous pussy? +--- 2554159 +>>2554084 (OP) + +Indian ghosts +--- 2554163 +>>2554139 +Feral people are people who live off the land like hermits. Meth addicts aren't that handy even though they live in rural towns. + +>>2554158 +They why don't I feel afraid abroad? +--- 2554164 +Oh grow the fuck up already. There's no such thing as feral people. And all the stories have been greatly exaggerated by the shock media. The disappearances in USA wilderness is entirely due to it's vastness compared to Europe. If feral people existed there would be better evidence. And just because some hick police think it's true isn't evidence. Quit spreading this utterly ridiculous BS. People will start to blame county commissioners who are innocent. +--- 2554167 +>>2554163 +>Meth addicts aren't that handy +How handy do you need to be to chase a small animal for 6 hours straight and eat it raw? +--- 2554172 +>>2554167 +No. As somebody who grew up around feral people you're being disrespectful. Feral people are people who live in the woods and are defensive of their territory. They usually can't speak well anymore. They're not fucking meth cooks how would they get their fix deep in the woods? What OP is exactly what you should do if you're being tracked. Don't panic, don't threaten them, don't act scared. Walk until you're out of your territory. They probably will take a look at your camp but it's rare they kill or kidnap anybody (but it can happen). +--- 2554174 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXvI0bsuGPk [Embed] +--- 2554175 +FERAL PEOPLE DON'T EXIST. You're going to ruin the reputations of entire counties with this bullshit peddling. People who worked their fucking asses off to become county commissioners will get blamed. +--- 2554180 +>>2554175 +>>2554167 +county commissioners are the ones supporting the feral meth addicts. they bring the meth into the woods and give it to the meth addicts to scare them away from the sacred hidden gold +--- 2554198 +PNW forests, especially old growth forests like the Hoh rain forest, are probably some of the comfiest, most serene, in touch with God and nature that you can be anon. The silence is deafening because you are in an area that (if hiking through national forest land) may not have had anyone in that spot for decades if not centuries. Absolute shame the states of Oregon and Washington, once the end of the Oregon trail where only the hardiest and most driven people flocked too are now liberal nanny states ruined by transexual communists who are not only the antithesis to nature, but actively despise it. +--- 2554205 +enjoy +https://youtu.be/dClXm6evw54 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/wF2fa2nY0oo [Embed] +https://youtu.be/fE5t8GIMepM [Embed] +--- 2554208 +>The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted +--- 2554229 +>>2554084 (OP) +Actual biodiversity and surviving old growth. Euro forests are practically park greens. +--- 2554233 +>>2554084 (OP) +I am christian. This world is run by satanists who kidnap 100k children every year. They need a constant source of blood for whatever purposes, the life & soul is in the blood. They probably snatch alot of people out in the wilderness. + +Trust your instincts. Pray to God and ask him to protect your going in and outs. +--- 2554234 +>>2554095 +>It felt like he marked or blessed me for something good and bad at the same time + +That was a curse being placed upon you. Rebuke what happened to you in the name of Yahuah. +--- 2554236 +>>2554084 (OP) +I feel safe when out, started camping by myself pretty young to be safe so maybe that's why. +--- 2554237 +don't google "NSA forest people experiment" +--- 2554239 +>What went we out into this wilderness to find? +--- 2554240 +>>2554084 (OP) +>Why are North American Forests so Creepy? +Because you are a fag, and larper. +And conveniently, you can't post any photos of you actually going outside. +--- 2554248 +>>2554095 +My buddy and I were camping very remote, late winter PNW. He dreampt of hands pressing along the outer walls of tent, hands feeling his ears/shoulder. I woke to geurilla hooting to my right, then a deep gutteral voice rebuking the hooter just behind/above me. I too laid in shocked terror for about 2 hours until i couldnt handle it anymore, go out fighting. The two creatures thrashed outta there fast when i started yelling. Could be feral folk but I believe in bigfoot. 100%, though be he terrestial or visitor I dunno +--- 2554277 +>>2554240 +>if you don't take pictures of yourself doing a thing, you didn't really do it +Social media was a mistake +--- 2554281 +>>2554277 +You will keep scrambling to find any excuse to avoid posting photo evidence that you go outside - because you don't have any. Because you don't actually go outside. +And deep down, you know that I know, and you also know that the other anons that read this will also know you don't go outside. You'll feel embarrassed and you'll seethe repeatedly, still replying to this in a desperate bid to convince yourself that you didn't fail at something as basic as hiking. You've embarrassed and disappointed yourself enough today. +--- 2554285 +>>2554090 +there is a lot going on in Appalachia by the way, not a shop pic related. +--- 2554287 +>>2554240 +>>2554281 +>THERE'S NOTHING CREEPY IN THE FORESTS! +>POST A PICTURE CHUD +STFU faggot. +--- 2554357 +>>2554281 +>seething this hard because other people aren't insta whores +--- 2554369 +>>2554172 +How do you grow up around feral people? Aren't they incredibly rare, especially nowadays? +--- 2554383 +>>2554369 +If you grow up in certain bumfuck hick areas of the US you might run into them. You probably won't run into them in your town unless they are really fucked for food (which is rare because they are masters of living outdoors). But if you hunting and do multi-day treks and things like this you might come across them. I grew up in deep mountain country and it was known there were feral in the woods. My dad was never afraid of them and we were tracked multiple times during our camping and hunting trips. My dad would leave out supplies for them like matches. But they almost never took it - it's more to show good will. You have to remember, feral people weren't born feral. They are loner hermits who go to the woods usually after turning 18 or after some catastrophic life event. They feel pride on doing things without help so they probably won't take your "gift" you leave out. But it's a good way to say "I know you're here, I"m not messing with you, I come in peace." Because they have been living tax free and off the gov's radar, often breaking fish and wildlife regulations they're very paranoid of people. +--- 2554384 +>>2554383 +But also I don't want to paint a rosy picture. Not all ferals are harmless hermits. A lot of disappearances in Appalachia are due to feral humans, especially girls. +--- 2554387 +>>2554084 (OP) +OP, that looks comfy as fuck. +Not sure what your deal is. +--- 2554388 +>>2554387 +Why are retards in this thread acting like just because something is comfy doesn't mean it can't be creepy? A lot of the comfiest places are filled with the most bizarre disappearances. Nobody said it's not comfy or beautiful or fun, if it wasn't I'm sure OP wouldn't be hiking despite his scary experience with a feral human. +--- 2554391 +>>2554388 +Because being creeped out is synonymous with being uncomfortable you obnoxious troon +--- 2554396 +>>2554391 +Wrong. I've been in comfy areas and heard strange things and still enjoy my time. Being scared of a feral person or a strange occurrence doesn't preclude you from enjoying the nature itself. The adrenaline can even add to the experience. +--- 2554400 +>>2554388 +It's not creepy at all, that looks inviting and beautiful. + +You have issues if woodlands like that make you uneasy. +--- 2554404 +>>2554400 +You guys, once again, are misinterpreting it. The look of the forest is not the creepy party. It's what HAPPENS in the forest. It's not the trees that are scary. It's the feral people and disappearances, the screams, the shadow people etc. I've never seen this in Europe. And in places like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. even Maine I've never felt creeped out. This is mostly about deep Appalachia and what goes on there. + +Also you kind of sound like a faggot +>Ugh mental health is so so important!!! You probs need to see a therapist and go on le ebic psych meds!!! +--- 2554405 +>>2554404 +I live in Kentucky. You know what happens in the woods here if you mind your business? + +Nothing. +Other than possums fucking and coons copulating, nothing will happen to you. +--- 2554407 +>>2554405 +Have you ever gone on multi-day off trail treks? Because if you really are in KT and haven't experienced anything strange then I think you're probably being paid by your county commissioners office. Fuck off fed faggot. +--- 2554409 +>>2554383 +Are you sure these "feral humans" aren't just retards going into the woods on drugs? +--- 2554423 +>>2554407 +AHAHAHAH! +You are fucking bonkers. Seek help bud. + +>>2554409 +He got spooked by a bunch of rednecks in side-by's playing lynrd skynrd, and thought the Goat Man was onto him. +--- 2554424 +>>2554423 +County commissioner faggot fuck off. +--- 2554427 +>>2554424 +Nah, I'm going to watch you unravel, thinking the mothman is going to swoop down and give you the creeps or some shit. + +FFS man, not everyone is spooked by an owl hooting, like you are. +--- 2554475 +>>2554198 +I always wondered how descendants of such hardy men can turn out like that. Does ancestry not make any influence in character then? Is it all just a material thing. Who knows +--- 2554479 +North America is cursed land. Very rarely are the people here not retarded or downright evil. The wilderness bleeds that aura outward. So long as you show no fear, you’ll be alright. +--- 2554728 +>>2554479 +>aura +Typical crystal-gazing, navel-gazing, self-obsessed New Age bullshit. My Mom was into that crap for decades until she got the menopause and realized no amount of meditation, aura massages, yoga, and incense would restore her youth, grant her immortality, or fetch her a new man post-divorce and post-eggs. She's really weaned herself off that claptrap in recent years. It's all quite ironic, because New Age shit heavily apes Buddhism (superficially, that is), and Buddhism is about NOT gazing at your navel and NOT becoming attached to physicality. Women are of course unable to understand this as a whole gender. + +Anyway, the Earth doesn't care about you at all. There is no aura or vibe; it's all in your head. The Earth didn't care about the Permian extinction, it didn't care about the Cretaceous extinction, it didn't care when homo sapiens out-competed the Neanderthals, it didn't care when Native Americans genocided each other, it didn't care when white men genocided the Native Americans, and it doesn't care about the Holocene extinction (i.e., what we 8 billion human cockroaches are doing to flora and fauna right now). + +In 50 million years, we and almost every trace of our civilization will be gone, there'll be whole new continental configurations, new species of flora and fauna, and the Earth still won't care. Pure egotism to think that nature gives a damn about you one way or the other. +--- 2554732 +>>2554728 +--- 2554734 +>>2554732 +good post. this is the kind of quality I expect from nu-out. +--- 2554736 +>>2554734 +The Earth doesn't care about /out/ + +Checkmate +--- 2554739 +>>2554084 (OP) +Well, it's a big place. Canada and the US are like twice as big as all of Europe. + +There's stories around where I live, northern Rocky mountains, about a guy who does this shit. Basically, when a person is camping alone, or just 2 people, and they're drinking and such, and not if they have dogs, he finds a chance to sneak up and put something in the bottle that makes them pass out. + +I've never heard any stories about him raping them or anything, he just takes pictures of them asleep with their phones, steals some cash and food, and leaves them alone besides that. + +I used to think this was just a local legend, because the stories were always like "my friend's cousin's boyfriend" and shit like that, but then it happened to a friend of mine and I saw the pictures myself. + +My opinion is that it's a Kaczynski kind of guy who has taken a different approach. +--- 2554763 +>>2554277 +4chan is social media, retard. +--- 2554764 +>>2554475 +I dunno anom but it's really sad the states are so cucked. +--- 2554765 +>>2554763 +No shit faggot but it's a half brain opinion to group it with Instagram or Twitter. You stupid bitch. Send me your address so I can take a shit in a plastic bag and send it to you. +--- 2554772 +>>2554764 +As gay as the states are, Europe has it worse. I laugh when people call China a surveillance state, while England has more cameras per square mile, (or square kilometer, if you prefer) than China + +Anyway, ain't no reason to make a dick measuring contest out of it. The US may have less cameras but they're still watching us all the time, in other ways. We're all getting fucked. The only question is, when will we do something about it? +--- 2554829 +>>2554772 +>The only question is, when will we do something about it? +As the old adage goes, civilization is only nine (or seven, or three) missed meals away from anarchy. When people get hungry, and especially when their children get hungry, then they'll be ready to burn down the palatial estates of the elite. + +Of course, these days, it's often too late by the time things get that far, because we're better at providing cattle feed to the poor than in ancient times; and of course we have globalism and planes now, so the elite will simply flee like the parasitic cowards they really are. The only consolation is that they'll spend the rest of their lives as strangers in a strange land always looking over their shoulders, because the world will quickly forget them, but their people will not and those people will be out for revenge (if they can get it). +--- 2554856 +>>2554205 +Mr.Ballen is a fucking moron. He always gets his facts wrong and "reports" of pure bs shock shit. +--- 2554865 +I go out into the middle of the woods at night with a flashlight. I have an internal first person monologue that narrates the adventures. +Something out there in the wild was calling me. I had a funny feeling that this would end with me dead in the end, still, my curiosity had overcome my reasoning, I had to do this, I don’t know why but I had to do it. +--- 2554871 +>>2554856 +he makes no distinction between truth and tall tale. his whole appeal is his animated storytelling style and everything he says should be treated as a work of entertainment +--- 2554888 +>>2554404 +Not really sure what you're on about OP I'm non-american and I don't look at Appalachia and think it looks creepy at all! It looks pretty cosy! +--- 2554889 +>>2554772 +Every country in the world has a ridonkulous amount of cameras per square mile they're called mobile phones +--- 2554893 +>>2554888 +>Not really sure what you're on about OP I'm non-american and I don't look at Appalachia and think it looks creepy at all! It looks pretty cosy +I live in southern Appalachia and I think these fruits are coming down here from NOVA to "experience a wild and spiritual journey of personal growth," but then they lie down on their $600 worth of doubled-up self-inflating mattresses and let Deliverance, a few specific X-Files episodes, and Sasquatch and ghost hunter shlock TV shows run their imaginations wild. + +It's especially fuckwitted because cryptid hunter shows deploy shitloads of (probably prop) equipment and still have to shake pots and pans off-camera to pretend they found anything at all. +--- 2554919 +>>2554285 +I'm not schizo so you'll have to explain what's "going on" in your picture. +--- 2554923 +>>2554772 +>England has more cameras per square mile +Absolutely useless way of comparing countries. You put cameras where the people are. China is fucking huge. Everyone lives near the coast in the south. There are vast deserts where no one goes. England is really small. Every square inch has been inhabited since Roman times. + +I'm not saying that cameras everywhere is good. It isn't. But try to use your head for more then a hat rack. +--- 2555041 +>>2554163 +>They why don't I feel afraid abroad? +No joggers? +--- 2555111 +>>2554084 (OP) +it's probably the grass +thick grass is synonymous with creepy insects and reptiles +--- 2555167 +>>2554240 +>anything I don't like is a LARP +fucking tired of you people ruining the board +--- 2555289 +>>2554095 +Something similar happened to me while solo camping in San Jacinto. I was in my tent when I suddenly wake up to this beautiful naked woman touching me! Yelled you can’t touch my “NONONO ZONE!” And started to pummel her. Then all the sudden I wake up. Like nothing ever happened. Moral of the story don’t let wenches of the woods touch you nono zone. +--- 2555513 +What path do you choose? +--- 2555522 +>>2554084 (OP) +do you know how to get to bells canyon? +--- 2555622 +>>2555522 +Ah yes, the the beast from the woods, we meet again. + +https://youtu.be/BRtI3P7pJO0 [Embed] +--- 2555630 +>>2554084 (OP) +I've spent a lot of time in forests in many different parts of the US and Canada. Appalachia easily the creepiest, but I'd put the dense damp literal rainforests of the PNW as second. I've had encounters with "hill folk" in the Cascades that would rival any WV holler or Ozark backwoods, people that look very clearly "devolved." A far lesser known creepy woods spot is the Uinta Range in NE Utah, this is not far from the Skinwalker Ranch and I've never had such a strong feeling that I was being watched. +--- 2555654 +>>2555513 +When in doubt, the right way. +--- 2555655 +>>2554084 (OP) +Cuz the Wendigos +--- 2555806 +German forests are fucking fake and gay. +They feel more like Tree Factories than wilderness. +Everything fucking sucks here. +--- 2555811 +>>2554919 +>He doesn´t have severe Pareidolia... +ngmi +--- 2556009 +>>2554888 +It is. +>>2554893 + +The fucking barrage of idiotic films and programs that make anyone not living in an overcrowded city look like a sociopath does not help things, but yes, the puerile tripe you mentioned does not help. +--- 2556011 +>>2555513 +If I'm dressed like that, and with a near empty pack, I'm turning around and going home. +--- 2556020 +>>2555806 +this. I fucking hate it here. The only forest I know of that is nice is the black forrest. The problem I have is that everywhere is infrastructure of some kind so you can't go off track. Plus everywhere are parking lots so everyone can go to the good places without any problems. +--- 2556161 +>>2554084 (OP) +They aren't. You have a mental problem. +>>2554086 +this anon gets it. +>>2554090 +post tits +--- 2556309 +>>2554090 +>silence so deep you feel it +Most sounds are explainable. Sometimes the woods fucks with the noise of a trickling stream to make it sound like someone, eternally out of line of sight, is talking. Animal calls are warped in unusual ways to sound like vehicles, and sometimes that twig that snapped just decided to do so on its own. That silence though... I've never found an explanation for those moments when you feel like screaming wont make a sound. +--- 2556330 +>>2554095 +God bless Russia's inability to regulate their forests like annoying Americans do +--- 2556332 +>>2554101 +Putin Derrangement Syndrome. Ukraine is losing. Get over it. +--- 2556345 +>>2554084 (OP) +The historical poverty in the area lends credence to your words. I'll believe it. +--- 2556353 +>>2554126 +Could you tell more about feral people? I've passed through Weed before. That whole area is wilderness. Didn't run into any feral people though. Why would you leave? It's so damn pretty out there. Mississippi swamp I spent a lot of my childhood there but it was within a retirement community visiting my grandparents. Didn't get to explore. Very, very muggy. Full of bugs. +--- 2556361 +>>2554198 +What are you talking about? They have some seriously strict laws to protect the wilderness. They segregate the shit you're taking about. Why are you in the cities with the homeless? Why are people so ignorant of the PNW? How many retards can there be on this website? Is it sour grapes because you think you can't afford to live there? There's plenty of small mountain towns you could move to. Your neighbors will all be white, and addicted to meth. The homeless are white too. It's a white haven! +--- 2556453 +>>2554084 (OP) +Idk I live in Michigan. Parents have 40 acres of land, never once camped in it because it gives myself and others the heebie jeebies at night. During the day all is well. Dad allegedly saw people in 1800's clothing one time walking down to the barn, handful of times of sounding like I was being stalked by something, yet nothing visible, in the 90's myself and some halloween gatherers at neighbors saw the obligatory Black Triangle. Maybe a freak space time warp there. +Also: +>was part of larger acreage +>another house was around 1/2 mile NW of the current one +>numerous people died of fever in the winter +>bodies stored in the attic +>nearby swamp has 4 large stones at the 4 cardinal directions +--- 2556458 +>>2556330 +new growth/old growth is logging industry propaganda that won't die +--- 2556479 +>>2554164 +there's literally dozens of Wikipedia articles on well documented feral people and the efforts we have taken to see if they can be normalized. Jesus fucking Christ read a book once in a while you troglodyte +--- 2556481 +Anywhere particularly creepy and isolated I can visit in New Mexico? Looking for a good thrill, solo night hiking, getting chased by satanists after accidentally stumbling on their territory, sex with skinwalkers whatever. +--- 2556487 +>>2556481 +NMfag here, check out Mogollon, north of Silver City. Proper ghost town. Also old Highway 666 from Shiprock to Gallup after dark is spooky as all fuck. Bring a full tank of gas and a large firearm. NM is a CURSED land. +--- 2556490 +>>2555806 +You're not even German. You are some kind of lowlander. There is plenty of natural forest in the hill country. Not oldgrowth of course but you scarcely even find that in Scandinavia nowdays. +--- 2556496 +>>2556487 +Thanks m8 +--- 2556498 +>>2556487 +That's also rez land. + Don't be fucking about off highway after dark, playing spooky-spook with a gun on rez land. +--- 2556499 +>>2556481 +Sacramento or Timberon, doesn't have a gas station, elk everywhere, no street lights, pretty much no paved roads +--- 2556503 +>>2556481 +>>2556499 +also plenty of camping and spots on the way out to the VLA, it's very remote without lights for the satellite dishes, so no light pollution out there +ft stanton near ruidoso is worth seein, valley of fires is up the road from the stallion gate that leads to the Trinity Test Site (1st atomic detonation but that's only open 2days out of the year since it's on airforce missile land) +--- 2556511 +>>2556490 +halt die fresse du dummer hurensohn +--- 2556538 +>>2555806 +not bad considering what they looked like off and on the last 100 years +--- 2556543 +>>2554146 +Unironically, the term is “people experiencing homelessness” + +News headline: “woman hit by train at 2am was experiencing homelessness” +--- 2556544 +>>2554084 (OP) +Trust your gut feeling, it's 99% of the time right. +If you feel watched, you are being watched. +If it's a hunter, deer or a squirrel watching you it will be the same feeling. +A 6th sense a select few have unlocked. +jhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppuu77777888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888p +that's my cats warning to you +--- 2556548 +>>2554174 +Kek'd +--- 2556597 +>>2556543 +The next PC term will be "residentially challenged" mark my words. +--- 2556687 +I understand that some people who make /x/ tier posts can be pretty gay sometimes, but the people who counterpost come off as spiritually dead and gay. These people have never camped somewhere without a park bench. Soul dead people tend not to be welcome in the wild. +--- 2558391 +>>2554084 (OP) +There is nothing spooky in the woods. Animals are terrified or curious of you, and the people are friendly. Abandon the trail anon, go bushwhacking. Venture further and experience places most people dont even know exist. Don't be afraid of some trees, anon, its not like you work in the logging industry or something. Embrace the silence, follow the solitude. + +t. have done bush work for some time in very remote places in northern Canada +--- 2558583 +>>2554090 +Shut the fuck up man I've been all throughout the appalachia and there's nothing paranormal out there, you're just paranoid. The weirdest thing that could ever happen in the wilderness is other people and that's it. +--- 2558591 +>>2554919 +Face in the clouds. God this thread is loaded with NPCs who haven't gone to a parking lot let alone the woods. +--- 2558604 +>>2554084 (OP) +>creepy +You mean comfy? Everytime I hike through a European new growth forest with barely any undergrowth or biodiversity to speak of, something screams inside me that something's very, very wrong. My ancestors have ruined this land and left nothing unspoiled. +--- 2558607 +>>2556687 +You know what's annoying? People always talking about how west virginia for example has cryptids and all that bullshit, when they're not even from there nor have they ever been. Imagine trying to tell someone that lives there that you know more than them. lol +--- 2558608 +>>2554240 +>>2554281 +Go touch grass. +--- 2558622 +>>2558607 +You just named 95% of /out/... +--- 2559924 +>>2554865 +Great game +--- 2559928 +>>2558591 +>if you don't think clouds are proof of spoopy shit then you're an NPC who has never been outside +okay +--- 2559944 +>>2554175 +Sounds like a county commissioner whose not doing his job accounting for all the feral people in his precinct. Your supervisor is going to be very disappointed in you. +--- 2559988 +>>2554084 (OP) +I feel the same way. Old world landscapes and forests feel familiar and safe, but the new world (especially Australia) is creepy as. Australian trees are shaped like veins in lungs, and grow in unpredictable ways, european pines stand straight like soldiers. Just my thoughts having been in both. +--- 2560005 +>>2555806 +Kind of reminds me of the conservation areas surrounding Toronto in the so called greenbelt. They logged the shit out of Southern Ontario decades ago, and re-planted the forests with fast growing pines, cedars and maples all in big rows with very little diversity. Many of the trails now tend to feel pretty sterile and monotonous as a result, very far away from nature. Although it's still a breath of fresh air (literally) getting out of the city when you don't have time for a longer trip. +--- 2560019 +>>2555630 +>A far lesser known creepy woods spot is the Uinta Range in NE Utah +The Uinta Mountains are a magical place. One of the few mountain ranges in North America to run East to West. Lots of memories solo hunting and backpacking deep in the numerous basins it has to offer, and climbing the high ridges into some deadfall hell holes I should've never been in. Creepiest places I've experienced have been on the North Slope in those high open meadows and some of the lakes. Had some really strange feelings when I camped alone at one of the lakes one night. Felt a wash of relief once morning came and I hiked out. Other than that I've never really experienced anything out of sorts either on the North or South Slope. +--- 2560023 +>>2554084 (OP) +appalachia is big NOPE country +--- 2560056 +I road my bike down a forest service trail for about 5 miles then just decided to park my bike and just start walking in the woods. I got about 2 miles in when I came across a straight opening that just seemed out of place, it's just in the middle of the pic, so I followed it. It was a lot easier to walk on and I just hiked around the water. The whole time it felt creepy. +--- 2560058 +>>2560056 +Then I came across an old submerged bridge. I noticed super old stumps with no tree next to them so I'm guessing they just made the bridge as they went along. I go off trail all the time and am never creeped out, I hunt, so I just left. Supposedly there was a paper mill and somehow, from what I was told, the sawdust exploded in a building. They weren't sure but said up to 50 people died, this was early 1900's. Forests can be creepy as fuck sometimes. +--- 2560118 +>>2556405 +Yeah taking a deep dive on semitic religion can get wild. I mean, gods are real and all but +>skin your penis and I'll help you conquer the world +is just kinda an odd ask. +All Woden and Tiw want is animal blood so it's kinda an easy choice for me. But by all means I don't wanna convert anyone +--- 2560141 +>>2560056 +Probably an old logging area. +--- 2560178 +>>2560058 +>somehow, from what I was told, the sawdust exploded in a building +yeah that's fairly common dude, sawdust is extremely flammable +if it's in huge quantities and dry it doesn't take muc of a spark to set it off +--- 2560217 +>>2555513 +The one less travelled. +--- 2560327 +>>2560217 +t. bobby chill +--- 2560426 +>>2554084 (OP) +heh +--- 2560457 +>>2560058 +Forests are like people. Some are friendly and cheerful, others are gloomy and anxious. Some are benevolent and others are malevolent. They carry the scars of the past. +--- 2560477 +>>2554287 +bro nice Breath of the Wild screen shot. That the HD mod? +--- 2560492 +I know this thread is on the verge of devolving into a skin walker creepypasta thread, but i have a real question. +I'm European and I don't know shit, but i bought some of the foxfire books. + +The people they describe aren't feral but really remote, insular and detached from the "real world". +I have utmost respect for these people. +Do they still exist ? +--- 2560495 +>>2558591 +I see chad spiderman making a kissy face, not God +--- 2562340 +>>2554084 (OP) +I've never been able to sleep in a forest because I imagine being eaten by wild animals. There's also spirits. +--- 2562348 +>>2556361 +I lived in Oregon and Washington for about 7 years total retard, from Springfield and Lane County to Portland to Seattle and out near the OP for a bit. Have you driven out east from Seattle towards the pass? Cutting down the woods to build shitty, ugly condos. With more treats getting cut down the water ways get blown out. Combined with littering and more trash, this has been brutal for steelhead breeding and their grounds. +Aside from that, both Oregon and Seattle control the politics of the state and if you can't see how detrimental that has been not only to the environment but personal freedoms over the last 20ish years, you are also retarded and gay. The OP, national parks/forests, and other vast swaths of Oregon and Washington are still mostly undestroyed, true, but that is only because the consuming plague that are the residents of Seattle and Portland haven't been forced out of their pods yet to move farther out. +--- 2562352 +>>2562348 +Also, add in that how many of these "people" who live in these states and vote their way actually care about the environment? Not only do these obese, transexual slobs stay in their le 15 minute cities, the amount of strain they put and destruction on the environment is insane +>buying brand new plywood overpriced condos that had the woods cut down to live in +>new EV that not only is immensely harmful to create, but also puts huge strain on electrical grid +>food delivery services, buy everything from Amazon/Whole Foods, work do nothing tech jobs, etc. +But it is ok cause even though they are doing the equivalent of lighting tires on fire, they buy le carbon offsets so it works out! These people destroy the environment, they only care about it so they can virtue signal about how much they care and so they can go to local trailheads for grinder photos. +Thanks for letting me rant anon, I feel a bit better. +--- 2562397 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXvI0bsuGPk [Embed] + +Spirits their are still untamed and the mericans faithless, spiritual manlets. No wonder so many atrocities occur on a daily basis. +There is a reason complex rituals have come into existence all over the world +--- 2562969 +>>2560492 +No, not anymore. I live one county over from Rabun. There are vestiges of it though. Plenty of people still farm and garden and hunt and some of the old traditions are carried on, no one around here lives in isolation like that anymore though. +--- 2562970 +>>2562340 +I appreciate you, bro. Thanks for staying away. +--- 2562979 +>>2556453 +>obligatory Black Triangle +Story time? +--- 2562992 +>>2562969 + +That makes sense, but it also is a little sad. +I might be romanticizing something that's not great at all but i have crazy respect for what I've read in those books. +--- 2563084 +>>2556309 +Just whistle then you overdramatic faggot +--- 2563816 +>>2554404 + +Europe has a long history of Witch hunting, Werewolf hunting. People didn't put up with scary bullshit in the woods. + +While Native Americans celebrated scary bullshit in the woods. + +Idfk man I'm just talking shit, I never had scary shit in NZ except when I smoke too much pot but my own house is scary when I smoke too much pot. +--- 2563820 +>>2563816 +¥urop's witch and werewolf hunting was an urban affair. And yes like all spoops it's based in superstition or dogma, but frankly it doesn't compare to the endless and untrustworthy wild of the New World. those fuckers who boated across to Virginia and New England, literally IN the age of enlightenment, and found nothing but the tortures of the elements, wily natives, and endless continent before them, those people can be forgiven for truly fearing the woods and wondering where and how the Devil will encroach on them there. + +in my own town in MA there's a spat of land known as the cedar meadow, aka "the witch woods". all the farms from the 1600s end at the cedar meadow, they never went into it. today all the old stone walls run blindly through the forest but they all border at the cedar meadow because people were afraid to go into that land and clear it, and so it has never been cleared. I personally have trekked through and it's the only place I feel truly vulnerable; you can't stand up straight and you can't see what's in front of you or behind you. just dense fucking cedar branches with barely any room to breathe. FUCK the witch woods + +pickeral, google map in spring shows how this played out. if you look closely you can see the stone walls skirting the cedar meadow. and also be mindful that this shit isn't nearly as intimidating via satellite, you kinda have to be there +--- 2563847 +>>2554728 +No matter what damage we think we can do to this planet, no matter the scale, the earth will regreen, will regrow like humans were never here. Because, it has all the time in the world. +--- 2563938 +>>2554285 +Oy vey +--- 2564084 +>>2563847 +how long do you think it would take to completely reset? like, no ruins to be found above or below ground, not a shred of aluminum to be excavated, just zero signs we ever existed? + +I'm thinking by 1M years all our ruins will be erased above ground, but it would take billions for the earth to eat every scrap of trash and structure. I mean, we have rock formations that over a billion years old, so the tectonic recycling process is crazy slow +--- 2564138 +>>2556453 +Thanks for sharing anon, but I have to say that 40 acres isn't a massive amount of land. Do you guy's not regularly go out there and manage it? +--- 2564142 +>>2558583 +Yup. Im a fire lookout. Been over an hour away from a single soul. Had bears, wolves, rattlesnakes as the nearest guests. +The scariest thing by far is humans. People are just scared of what they dont know and we are some of the most sheltered people on earth. +Im not saying no, but its mostly just campfire shit to scare each other. Some people are fucking weird though. +--- 2564143 +>>2556453 +bruh how the fuck did you never campout there? I mean I don't camp in the witch's woods but I camp nearing to it at least + +also the fuck is the black triangle +--- 2564146 +>>2554475 +Wilamette valley is 70% of oregons population. Ofcourse a couple cities would eventually ruin the rest of the state. All it took was a show like portlandia or hippies to move in to live their eco trrrorist dream +--- 2564666 +>>2558583 +>>2564142 +Same. Born and raised in the mountains, and for all the social media posing I've seen from mostly fat people, I've never once seen anything paranormal. And I always wanted to. +Closest to paranormal I ever really felt was going into the entrances of some old caves with just my dog, and you look in, and your brain tells you that there is someone there watching you. You can see shadows move, and you walk in some and it retreats back into the cave. +As an adult, I learned about how the brain works and finds faces in things. As a kid though, I was positive that there was some underground people lurking in them. +--- 2564789 +>>2555806 +Oerbos. Get lost. You don't know what is +--- 2564805 +>>2554240 +retard +--- 2565504 +>>2556453 +>mfw yooper +>really into bigfoot/cryptids +>have stalked around the most desolate forest I can find for years with zero "odd" things ever happening +>fellow /out/ friend comes over to my place for the weekend +>proud bigfoot skeptic and always debated me on the subject +>wakes me up in the middle of the night +>he is pale and shaking +>wtf bro you good? +>tells me he saw a bigfoot, and he wants to get the fuck out of here +>think he is joking and laugh him off and try and go back to sleep +>he starts shaking me begging me to get up and leave because he doesn't want to walk out alone. +>sounds like he is going to cry +>realize he isn't joking, he is a big guy and seasoned /out/doorman who shouldn't fear walking a few miles in the dark. +>try and ask him wtf happened but he is too shook and just begs me to pack up faster +>he sets the pace and we basically run out of the forest back to the dirt road my truck was parked at. +>throw shit into the bed and jump into the cab +>start up and drive off +>friend doesn't stop looking behind us until we reach blacktop +>still refuses to talk about it + +I'm so unlucky bros +--- 2565579 +>>2555806 +German territories ran out of lebensraum centuries ago. I'd suggest Norway, Sweden, or Finland in Europe, or if you're not a pussy the US and Canada for neulebensraum. +--- 2565789 +I know it's going to sound silly considering how considerably less wild those places are but I feel something similar toward the forests of center France. They have a foreboding and heavy air to it I never really felt in mountain forests for example. Something's off there, you often stumble upon weird (occult?) stuff left around, hanging from trees, not surprising when you learn abour stories like the Gevaudan Beast which was well documented +--- 2565832 +>>2554084 (OP) +Try walking through the Amazonian jungle, that will put the fear of GOD in your heart really quick. You have to deal with: +>snakes +>poisonous frogs and insects +>big cats that will stalk you without being seen +>poisonous plants of all kind +>drug smugglers from other countries that WILL shoot you on sight +>natives that probably are not friendly +>illegal loggers and miners that maybe will shoot you on sight +>military spec ops teams doing god knows what +>everything in the water is dangerous +>noises that make no sense +>the sensation of being observed all the time + +Holy shit fuck Brazil, I never want to go back there. Also, there's a ton of child prostitution and slave work in broad daylight in those forgotten cities and nobody gives a fuck. I really don't know how the Spanish did it. +--- 2566568 +>>2554095 +You should check the film Sauna (2008), its set at that at that exact place in Imperial Russia period +--- 2566572 +>>2565832 +storytime anon +Tell us more +--- 2566580 +>>2554095 +Bro entered hyperborea +--- 2566648 +>>2554763 +Social media is a meaningless term made convenient by corporations to push walled garden internet onto computer illiterates. Obviously it worked because there's no shortage of you faggots showing up to tell people that everything under the sun is social media. +4chan is not a social network. +--- 2566843 +>>2566572 +There's a ton of stuff, from finding weird witchcraft rituals in the forest, to seeing the aftermath of illegal miners and loggers killing natives and vice versa, most regions are very dangerous, but the North/Northeast takes the cake because there's no law since is so vast and nobody gives a fuck anyway. But here's a story about some ritual I witnessed in the middle of the forest +>went to Rio de janeiro because European tourist +>mom has some friends there +>went to the waterfalls because beaches are always packed in the summer +>enjoying still somewhat preserved forest and some cool waterfalls +>water is cold as fuck because mountains +>see some movement up ahead +>there's like 30 people in a shallow natural pool +>live chickens, lots of food and some weird songs +>"what the fuck is all this?" +>friend explain to me it's some African religion ritual and they do this to celebrate some African gods or whatever +>"shouldn't we gtfo outta here before they use us as sacrifice" +>"no need, they're cool and you can watch no problem, just don't say anything" +>people all dressed in white +>they start dancing, getting in a sort of trance state and acting like their entities or whatever +>some old dude start slicing chicken necks left and right +>blood fucking everywhere in the water +>music gets louder +>talking gets louder +>the dance becomes weirder +>they start smoking and drinking in the middle of the blood water +>after some time everything was calm again +>people bathing in the now clear water +>some lightskin hotties started talking to me +>my portuguese is non-existent and i was kinda scares some of them were gonna slice my throat +>went home thinking wtf was that +>apparently it's a normal thing in a religion called candomble +>went home smelling like wet chicken +>all this in a wendsday +There's stuff like this all over the country, and it's not even the worse I saw +--- 2566867 +>>2554089 +I do this but to Odin and I have this weird tick where I have to "knock on wood" but 3 times and then sometimes knock 3 times, 3 times to Odin. I actually can't stop and sometimes I have to "knock on wood" to unhex my knock on wood so I end up knocking 9 times 3 times.. etc.. usually when I'm doing something like driving and I start freaking out frustrated +--- 2566885 +>>2554404 +Maine is for sure creepy. +--- 2566887 +>>2566867 +Odin is a tranny and was mostly followed by fringe cultists who sacrificed babies. You're actually opening up yourself to even more negative energy than otherwise just being an atheist by praying to it while attracting the rest of the patheon who hated Odin if not Odin himself who would get a kick out of tormenting a random tard who thinks he's obligated to his protection. +--- 2566890 +>>2566887 +So I should pray to thor instead? +--- 2566891 +Every year I feel less human. + I love nature and my garden. I want to be outside and watch butterflies and birds. I want to go fishing and hiking. +Every time I observe humans I understand them less. Everything that people seem to find valuable is pointless. The majority of human effort is spent on degeneracy. Everyone lies all the time. Slowly I’m growing to hate humans. + +I’m 34 and humans become more annoying every year. +--- 2566892 +>>2566890 +Seems like the more sound choice, there's a bunch of traditions associated with Thor and loyalty/honor. Thor atleast wouldn't want to fuck with you for shits and giggles compared to Odin +--- 2566894 +>>2566891 +Sorry, this is supposed to be its own thread +--- 2566895 +>>2565832 +>insects +My uncle did military stuff in Panama and said the mosquitos were insane if you any any exposed skin it would get lit up immediately. +--- 2567039 +>>2564146 +Portland and Seattle have had that reputation since the hippies moved there in the 60s, it was a completely natural progression and anyone that is surprised at how those cities turned out is a stupid person. +--- 2567043 +>>2566843 +Anon what you described is a Santeria ritual, you know the fun summer song by Sublime? Its named after the religion. It’s a religion that comes out of West Africa from the slaves and is practiced all over the Americas. They wear all white as a purity thing. It’s a fascinating religion you should’ve taken time to learn a new culture instead of getting creeped out. I thought Euros were supposed to be open minded? +--- 2567045 +>>2566894 +well then rethread it +--- 2567090 +>>2554285 +>Supercell +Yeah we get those in the plains all the time. Suck it up bub hope you got a storm cellar. +--- 2567092 +>>2554240 +just posting again to say fuck you +--- 2567511 +>>2567090 +>mfw live in New England +>yes we have basements but no need for storm sellers +>we get a tornado finally +>most horrifying storm of my life +>literally sounds like a freight train +>run into the basement to huddle and wait it out +>looking out the narrow basement windows, every flash of lightning you can see the silhouettes of the trees violently bending one direction and a moment later the opposite direction +>brick chimney crumbles +>tree falls on the house +>I get struck by lightning from INSIDE the house right in front of my family +yeah fuck that shit. pickerel is the house +--- 2567524 +>>2563820 +>And yes like all spoops it's based in superstition or dogma +If by this you mean superstitious people performed rituals to turn themselves in werewolves using witchcraft and were killed because it didn't fit the dogma of the Church then you're right. + +>those people can be forgiven for truly fearing the woods and wondering where and how the Devil will encroach on them there +Yes, forgive them for hurting your personal materialistic dogma by trying to survive known threats like savages. They were just silly gooses, they didn't know they could have been making toilet paper and science textbooks from the trees they relied on for food, protection, housing, tools, medicine, and spiritual guidance. Forgive the hunter-gatherer societies that survived to the modern day by this method but had to watch their neighbors become decimated by war, disease, and slavery at the hands of the wonderful science gurus who put microplastics in our food, chemicals in the air, petroleum and mountains of waste in the oceans, and mutilate children to keep them from commiting suicide. Truly, we have become gods thanks to science. +--- 2567525 +>>2567524 +bit glib, on the whole +--- 2567527 +>>2566843 +>ewww, chicken blood +They were calling on the great god of protection whose name is "Stayhomesoiboi" if I remember correctly. Sounds like it was a success. +--- 2567531 +>>2567511 +House looks comfy anon +--- 2567536 +I know many of you are going to think I am just fucking around, but I've confirmed/seen at least three naked kids on trails around gatlinburg/Maggie valley/smoky mountains np. Random yelling and laughing as well. I even thought I saw a preteen girl nude bathing in a pond when I was on a hike at least 12 miles from clingmans dome off the mountain and I distinctly remember going in my pack to get my Sony Cybershot (it was the early 2000s) and when I went to take a picture, she was gone. +--- 2567538 +>>2567531 +thanks anon, twas a very nice place to grow up †bh. it's still my dad's pride. back in 1978 he ordered the house from a catalogue and sure as shit the company showed up with trucks over several weeks dropping off piles of logs, lumber, and building materials in heaps on the plot. my dad hired a guy to dig the foundation, and company came and poured the concrete, and once that set he hired two random duded and a small crane and over the next 11 months the three of them followed the instructions and built the goddamn house together. it was leaky and drafty for years until every detail was finished, but my parents were legit able to live in the house that first winter even before it was done. + +back in 1978 the entire operation cost $30k. the furnace alone was $10k and to this day it's the best part. it's big enough where you could walk into it if you wanted and we burn oil, wood, or coal and it's always cozy af because we harvest wood all year an have cords and cords drying for years at a time +--- 2567542 +>>2567536 +>preteen +--- 2567549 +>>2567542 +Yes. About 9-12 years old if my mind serves. +--- 2567551 +>>2567549 +fuck sake you should be in gaol for what you've done +--- 2567553 +>>2567551 +??? What the fuck did I do? Stop trolling. +--- 2567554 +>>2567553 +naughty boy +--- 2567555 +>>2567538 +>'78 +Yeah, my home was built in 79 and also had a wood, coal, propane burning furnace. It was a relic of the jimmy carter fuel shortage and people scared about what and how they were going to heat their homes with. I replaced the huge furnace about 8 years ago. Got a heat pump/propane combo. Very efficient. I got a new wood stove near the basement that is a very efficient non-catalytic but haven't had a need to use it yet. + +Neat hearing another person talk about a home like mine. +--- 2567558 +>>2567554 +Anon, it's 2023. Just because I am a MAP doesn't mean people should disregard what I damned well saw. + +I DO know that kids still play in the forest like I did growing up and I DO know that I was only a few miles from the NP border and sound travels, I never got naked as a kid and ran around in the woods but maybe that is a thing in Appalachia. I don't believe in ghosts and I am NOT a drug user. +--- 2567559 +>>2567555 +kek for the first 10 or so years of my life our floors were cheap shitty plywood, with cracks and holes where you could see through to the basement. as kids we just accepted it but it was fucking scary and I used to get wood splinters in my feet so bad my parents would have to hold me down to cut them out of my feet. The whole time my dad used bitch about Carter. "well thanks to Carter, wood shortages were so bad we couldn't even afford American plywood, these floors are garbage plywood from Romania" he used to say. + +Thanks so much for sharing anon, it's nice to hear your take. I wish I had a photo of the furnace. It's been serviced often but still is going great. I love the deep cold days of winter where my dad would shut the oil off and just toss logs in. The house is never more comfy and the wonderful smell. Dang. +--- 2567560 +>>2567559 +I guess we are probably near the same age but my father died a year ago. + +You can see how the previous unit was about three times as large. Was very useful in its day but heat pumps/ac is just so much more efficient now. Was a game changer. +--- 2567565 +>>2567560 +Yeah we must be. An upgrade is always worth it, especially when it comes to cost and efficiency. I live in a different country now but for the time being my parents are staying put in the house, and there's no chance my dad cares about doing any upgrades. I wish I had the cash to buy them out and keep that house as my New England getaway, but I definitely can't. + +Sorry to hear about your dad anon, only a year ago and that must be tough. I can't even imagine that. +--- 2567589 +>>2567558 +Anon fuck you are describing heaven. I think the gods were blessing you or there are cunny succubus in the forests +--- 2567594 +>>2567589 +https://youtu.be/NlM3CKXJs5k [Embed] +--- 2567609 +>>2554084 (OP) +lmao how are Euros such pussies? Don't let the Wendigo and Skinwalkers get you lol. +--- 2567611 +>>2567609 +lol +--- 2567778 +>>2554084 (OP) +Injun spirits and shit +Your ghost tends to be vengeful when your people are btfo that hard +--- 2567779 +>>2554084 (OP) +Weirdest thing I’ve heard was a mountain lion screech at night when I was in the woods with friends. It wouldn’t be odd if I wasn’t in NY, where mountain lions are said to be extinct. +--- 2567853 +>>2567779 +seen a mountin' lion in MA as well, up close and personal. DCR doesn't want to put them on the native wildlife list because it requires a whole new fucking program of monitoring and public safety + +>>2567778 +I live in the lad of King Philip's War and the amount of death, terror, and utter atrocity perpetrated by the unjuns and the colonists is hair raising. small villages way out alone in the New England wilderness getting torched in the night with everyone burning to death in their homes. the injuns would cut one leg off all the livestocck and set them to roam the forest, they would tear the clothing off the colonists, men women and children, and butcher them like pigs in the mud. they would cut their fingers off and scatter them along the roads amongst bloody bible pages as a warning to any colonists approaching. they would cut the hands and feet off anyone caught on the road days away from the nearest town, leaving them to squirm around in the mud until they died of exposure or were eaten by animals. + +20 or more towns were destroyed, 10% of the european population was killed, and the destruction got so close to Boston they considered building a stockade wall around the entire city with the intention of holding out just long enough to evacuate and abandon the colony altogether. when they finally organised and got the upper hand they destroyed the indians without mercy. they burned their children alive in the dead of winter and quite literally exacted genocide. King Philip's head sat on a pike in Boston for like 30 years until it disintegrated. you go off in the woods here and sit in the dirt and aside from the comforts of nature around you, it just feels very heavy sometimes. +--- 2567922 +>>2567511 +>>2567538 +What a pretty house. Wish I grew up there desu. Sounds like you had the best dad ever +--- 2567939 +>>2567922 +nice house yea but †bh he was kind of PTSD case and things weren't wonderful +--- 2567944 +>>2559988 +>old world +Russia is old world and has the biggest forest. +--- 2567952 +>>2567536 +The forest tested you and you failed. +--- 2568042 +>>2556538 +Yes, because ALL German forests were blitzkriegd and not just the front line near Belgium/France. +--- 2568044 +>>2568042 +eh, between both wars and both lost on multiple fronts I'm pretty sure they were. Fine though, go play in the southern forests and don't step on a 70yo unexploded bomb I guess +--- 2568090 +>>2555806 +Yeah, a lot of countries in Europe have forests like that. Very bland. +--- 2568175 +>>2566843 +Man I expected you running into illegal loggers or some smugglers/cartel with coke and hookers but no it was fucking niggers doing ooga booga dance diff --git a/out/2554636.txt b/out/2554636.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5463102dd4adfd2776564035de8af9181ecf0070 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2554636.txt @@ -0,0 +1,328 @@ +----- +--- 2554636 +Are gravity filters a meme? Are UV-C purifiers enough? What do you use for big groups? +--- 2554637 +Violently and with passion +--- 2554647 +>>2554637 +hahaha +>>2554636 (OP) +mostly use aqua tabs, but will use something like a sawyer or quickdraw if I want a mechanical compenent. +--- 2554649 +>>2554636 (OP) + +> large groups + +CNOC bladder connected to a sawyer squeeze and hung out of a tree with paracord to produce a gravity feed. +--- 2554651 +>>2554649 +I think chems are the best way of treating large amounts of water. Just up the dose for the volume. +--- 2554657 +>>2554636 (OP) +I have a mini so I use that because it works. Cheaper, lighter, and smaller. +--- 2554684 +>>2554636 (OP) +>Are UV-C purifiers enough? +Yeah. Best protection against the majority of pathogens, fastest to use and now chemical taste. +--- 2554685 +>>2554636 (OP) +Aquamira for the convenience. The threat of infection is mostly hype. +--- 2554699 +>>2554636 (OP) +First Need filter system, WP tablets, Aquamira drops. Depends on the circumstances. +--- 2554713 +In 15 years of outings I have never filtered my water. Where the fuck are people going where the water isn't going to literally be cleaner than tap water in most places. +--- 2554716 +>>2554713 +In my first year of really going /out/ I became so sick from drinking unfiltered water that I thought I was going to die while liquid shit blew out my ass and vomit out my mouth at the same fucking time. Ignorant moron. +--- 2554722 +>>2554716 +What did the doctor say? +--- 2554724 +>>2554722 +I didn't go to the doctor I was /out/ and it flushed from my sister after 8-12 hours. Rapid onset and recovery. +--- 2554725 +>>2554724 +From my system* +--- 2554730 +>>2554716 +That was the detox from the tap water, not the /out/ water making you sick. +--- 2554731 +>>2554730 +Nonsense I'm a anti fluoride tin foil bro I don't drink the tap water lmao. +--- 2554748 +>>2554713 +In my country all /out/ sites are in the mountains so there's plenty of clean springs and snow melt to drink from. But in other places it might not be the case. +--- 2555684 +>>2554636 (OP) +--- 2555801 +>>2554636 (OP) +>gravity meme/large groups +Definitely not a meme. Me and the boys all have one we take when we do multi day float trips. I have a katydan, one has a platypus, another uses a sawyer. Convenient as fuck you just fill them up and hang them on a tree. Packs down fairly small. They all work about the same. If you're using just one for a big group you'll want something bigger like a 10L. Ours are all 3-4L and typically get filled twice a dayish. Can't speak to the uv ones, I've always been leary of them and haven't tried it. +--- 2555805 +I can only afford a DeathStraw™... +--- 2555825 +>>2555805 +Dude don't feel bad you can't afford all this shit people say you need. I never spend a fuck ton of money on gear. Most of my hiking bags are used army bags from army/navy stores or something I've found at goodwill. I don't spend long 7 nights camping in but i frequent isolated places. You can find good shit that's cheap if you look hard enough. Also, get in google maps and find places no one goes close to your home. You will be amazed at what you find. I dunno just my thoughts. +--- 2555840 +>>2555805 +What's wrong with life straws? Do they not properly filter water? +--- 2555851 +>>2555840 +They won't filter viruses (but that's only a concern in developing countries, especially crowded campsites and potential shtf/natural disaster scenarios). I've always just thought they looked awkward though, either you're filling your water bottle with dirty water or, what, sticking your head down to the puddle to suck away? +--- 2555855 +>>2555851 +Nothing can filter viruses. Come on I've looked into enough of then to work this out. Unless you're going for that sawyer bottle squeeze thing which is a filter mixed with an iodine tablet in the form of foam then you're bullshitting. That sawyer thing with foam is the only thing on the market that can remove viruses. +--- 2555863 +>>2555851 +>>2555855 +Do viruses survive in bodies of water in a concentration high enough to reasonably contract? Most of the waterborne diseases I can think of such as Cholera and Giardia are bacteria instead of viruses. Also, do viruses not die after a relatively short period of being outside the body? +--- 2555874 +>>2555863 +>Do viruses survive in bodies of water in a concentration high enough to reasonably contract? +Some do. Some don't. +>Also, do viruses not die after a relatively short period of being outside the body? +Some do. Some don't. +--- 2556437 +What type of water purification tablets do I need btw? I need those that basically act as a LifeStraw. +There´s those that only keep already clean water fresh for a longer time, by stopping bacterial growth inside an RV water tank for example, but I need those that you put in dirty, shady water, you can´t trust to begin with? +All I can find are those that advertise as keeping already clear water clean for a longer duration. +--- 2556457 +>>2555863 +Giardia isn't even a bacteria, it's more closely related to humans +--- 2556504 +>>2554636 (OP) + +I use the MSR guardian and fill a bag. Most of the water around here is pretty clean, so you can just drink out of the source. +--- 2556516 +>>2555863 +>Do viruses survive in bodies of water in a concentration high enough to reasonably contract? +Yes. It's a major problem around the world, not so much in the West but on a global scale the death toll from waterborne viral infections is well into the millions. +>Also, do viruses not die after a relatively short period of being outside the body? +Not necessarily. Like the other anon said, it depends on the virus but rotavirus for example (one of the leading causes of diarrhoeal illnesses worldwide and responsible for half a million deaths/year) can survive in cold water or on dry, smooth surfaces for months (although closer to days in warm water or surfaces exposed to good sun). The same goes for a range of other viruses. +--- 2556560 +>>2556516 +Aren’t those diseases spread via fecal matter in places with high population densities and substandard municipal water infrastructure? +--- 2556588 +>>2556560 +>Aren’t those diseases spread via fecal matter +They enter the water system via faecal matter but that doesn't mean you're safe so long as you don't start chowing down on floating turds, turbulence will spread them throughout the area and theyre perfectly capable of surviving as free-floating virions. A water filter won't protect you from viral illness just because it filters out faecal material. +Oh and theoretically urine, respiratory secretions and other bodily fluids could contaminate the water supply but in practice they tend to be fairly insignificant. +>In places with high population densities and substandard municipal water infrastructure? +Yes, like I said "only a concern in developing countries, especially crowded campsites and potential shtf/natural disaster scenarios" +Viral contamination of water sources became a serious problem with all the idiots flocking to national parks during the pandemic. Literally shitting the place up. +--- 2558592 +>look for water filter thread +>page 10 +dangit. Guys I want to keep it simple. Is filtering water trough pebbles and sand, then boiling it good enough 99% of times? +--- 2558602 +Can you boil water after treating it with Katadyne tablets that have chlorine in them? +Wouldn´t it set free toxic gasses? +--- 2558605 +>>2556516 +Your description fits fungi spores really well. +If there's such beings in the water it might be a good idea to filter + UV pen it. +--- 2558627 +>>2558592 +You’ll have sand in your water and will have to wait for it to cool because you chose to build a survivalist LARP water filter instead of buying one for $25 at Walmart but yeah, it will most likely be safe to drink after boiling. Boiling is probably the safest option. +--- 2558641 +>>2558592 +If you're going to boil your water then you can skip filtering it completely and still be fine >99% of the time. Maybe filter it through sand or even just a bandanna if it's murky but don't worry about viruses, bacteria or protozoa - boiling will kill all of them just fine. Make sure you boil it for long enough though. + +Still, I wouldn't call boiling the simplest solution. It takes time and effort to build a fire. Sounds like a real hassle if you're going to be on the move all day and want to take advantage of water sources as you pass by. + +>>2558602 +Perfectly safe bro. Maybe if you were grinding the tablets up into a crack pipe and smoking them you'd have something to worry about (but the melting point of sodium dichloroisocyanurate is 225C so probably not even then. +--- 2560012 +>>2554636 (OP) +i usually just use filters, waters pretty good here +i have a gravity filter and a 5gal pail for when my car camping trip goes long +boiling water is safer, but it always tastes flat and smokey. mint hepls +--- 2560469 +Lightweight anon here. Stiĺl own and use General Ecology's First Need at 1lb weight. 7 continents, all 50 states and 70+ countries. Heavy yet works, rapidly pulling delicious pure water, no viruses, chems etc., from rice paddies, water near mine tailings, S. American polluted rivers, zebu urine holes, and rabies infested beaver ponds. Delicious and here in this life, trust with my life. Boil order here or there, no problem. My luxury item even in the states. +--- 2560893 +>>2556437 +I was a bit surprised when I got my Aquamira and it talked about RV water supplies on the label. It’s Chlorine Dioxide so it’ll kill everything in the water. You just have to wait a bit. It’s not too expensive. Like $15 for enough to treat 30 gallons. You’ll want to pre filter the water first. It’ll purify the sediment but you don’t want to be drinking gritty water. Alternatively you could get disinfecting bleach and add it to suspect water. Although I doubt it would taste as good. +--- 2560913 +>>2554636 (OP) +tbqh I have never filtered water in my life and I grew up doing a lot of mountaineering. Don't drink water downstream of swamps lakes or people and you'll be fine. Why do people make such a big deal of this? +--- 2560938 +>>2554636 (OP) +I don't filter my water, and I've never gotten sick from it either. +Not like I'm drinking from the yang-zhe river or some shit. +Just avoid still water, and you'll be fine, assuming you're somewhere remote. +--- 2560999 +>>2560913 +It’s typical marketing, Anon. We were told by the people selling water filters that we would get sick and possibly die without it. That sentiment was echoed in every publication, all of which received advertising revenue from the companies selling filters. I’m not saying it was a conspiracy by Big Filter, just basic Bernays propaganda. +--- 2561051 +>>2560893 +>You just have to wait a bit. +Isn't it like 4 hours for giardia and crypto? +--- 2561057 +>>2554636 (OP) +Just a bandana. I'm usually able to find springs or mountainous streams. +--- 2561079 +>>2561051 +Yes, it’s 4 hours for parasites that occur around high population centers in third world countries. +--- 2561131 +>>2554724 +Sounds like a skill issue +--- 2561238 +>>2561051 +It’s something like that. It’s like 30 minutes for stuff like bacteria. Filters are really the best bet for stuff like Giarda and crypto. If you filter and chemically treat you’ll be extra good. Filters aren’t that expensive. It’s like $30 for a sawyer or Katydyn. I think they fit on smart water bottles. Many soft water bladders fit them. Katydyn sells a kit with filter and bladder for various prices. As does Sawyer. +If you don’t treat your water and get sick you’ll wish you spent the money when you’re shitting yourself inside out. +--- 2561254 +>>2561079 +>Yes, it’s 4 hours for parasites that occur around high population centers in third world countries. +>Implying giardia is only a problem for thirties + +>Roach et al found Giardia cysts in 32% of samples collected from pristine streams in the Canadian North. +>In three pristine watersheds in Washington, Ongerth Giardia cysts in 43% of 222 samples +>In a study by Backpacker Mahazine, the two sites along the Appalachian corridor collectively tested positive for giardia cysts 50 percent of the time. + +Honestly though, just because you drink a cyst doesn't mean you're guaranteed to develop an infection. And if you do develop symptoms it's usually just diarrhoea and abdo pain. +If you're willing to roll the dice then so be it. Unless you have kids, there's a small chance of developing chronic giardia infection which, if not recognised, cab cause growth restriction and shit. +--- 2562795 +>>2554713 +I feel like it's way more likely that you're an underaged poster trying to sound tough with this lie on a basket weaving forum +--- 2562796 +>>2555863 +>Giardia are bacteria +no +--- 2563509 +>>2554636 (OP) + +boiling it + +you don't need to filter it. + +if it looks clear and you don't see any nculear power plants anywhere just drink it(after boiling it) +--- 2563511 +>>2554716 + +you didn't boil it. that's why + +it will have bacteria in it +--- 2563574 +I have used my platypus 4L filter to much success and I really like it. A great way to easily filter a lot f water once you set up camp +--- 2563580 +>>2554636 (OP) +this guys series on water filtration is excellent. Good science based approach and backed up with studies and info. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIMeq0c7rJM&list=PLEu_UfyDKJALgbrNEJ5wpuxadz7uM5hEi [Embed] +--- 2563590 +>>2555855 +Guardian purifiers will filter viruses, but they cost like 400 bucks. +--- 2563595 +>>2554636 (OP) +never filtered my water but during army i tried few of those cleaning tablets and it tasted like pool water if that counts +i check my map if the stream has any farmsteads upstream and then drink away, lakewater is always good to go as it swamp water +honestly since i heard about it i have always though whole filtering thing is just a moneygrab but then again there are 3rd world countries where it is a real daily survival thing +--- 2563740 +>>2555855 +A grayl bottle will +--- 2563748 +>>2563590 +>boils water +$400 saved +--- 2564742 +I haven't gone out (still looking for a sturdy ruck) but my system is as follows... + +-Lifestraw Mission 5L Gravity Filter +-Aquatabs +-Kovea Spider stove with LPG adapter +-1qt steel cup +-64oz steel bottle + +Thinking of getting a hydrapak or other collapsible bottle. A small one to use as a bidet, and a larger one to place in my fanny pack with spare tablets. + +We're all about redundancy here. I'm planning a thru-hike and I don't like shopping in strange areas. +--- 2564743 +>>2563748 +You use purifiers to save fuel and make room for more snacks. +--- 2564757 +>>2554636 (OP) +katadyn befree + purinize +pretty much all water around here is pretty fucked +--- 2564761 +>>2554730 +That's nonsense. People don't shit themselves after drinking well water. Well water has zero fluorine and zero chlorine. +--- 2564763 +>>2564742 +Yes, buy things and take as much extraneous crap as possible. Weight isn’t a factor and it’s important to buy products that make you look cool. +--- 2565086 +>>2555805 +Hahaha that was my first backpacking overnight. Then i realized there is no way to store the water or cook with it. Thank God I had worthwhile friends +--- 2565369 +>>2554636 (OP) +okay lads, did i get memed on +I bought the Swayer squeeze because all the UL fags rave about it +but i just dont understand what advantage this gives me over just having a bladder and some purification tabs. it seems like a far more complicated AND heavier system +Squeeze +>carry all this shit, and some extra bottles +>to get water, fill, then filter to another bottle or bladder, or drink through this awkward attachment thing +vs Bladder + purification tabs/drops +>literally just fill bladder and add purifier +--- 2565432 +>>2554636 (OP) +gravity filter kit things are a meme +>What do you use for big groups? +everyone should have their own way to purify water. +one extra communal gravity setup going to make life easy at base camp. +the idea of being the "water boy" for a group is fucking dumb. what if someone gets lost or separated? what if you fall off a cliff with the only water filtration gear? common sense = why nobody does this stupid shit. +>Are UV-C purifiers enough +what are you a fag? +just run it through a sawyer, if its really nasty put a tab in it or boil it for a while. +--- 2565433 +>gravity filter kit things are a meme +make your own diy. less coonsumer, cheaper, better because its tailored to your bladder/bottle, lighter weight. lots of guides on youtube to show you how to make one a variety of ways. +--- 2565435 +>>2565369 +>complicated +>heavy +has some1 told you that you can leave all the cleaning kit stuff at home and bring a smartwater sports cap instead? its the perfect size to use to clean out a sawyer. + +main reason people use it is because the sawyer has no aquamira tablet water taste. +and because chemical/mechanical filtration isn't the same. one might be better or worse for the water in your area. sometimes you want to do both. depends what's in it. +--- 2565447 +>>2555684 +Wtf just put the Sawyer on the smartwater and drink it +--- 2567176 +>>2564742 + +>a small water bottle to use as a bidet + +Really getting back to nature friend +--- 2567186 +>>2560469 +Tell us about Antarctica. If I wanted to go what is the simplest route? +--- 2567273 +>>2567186 +North +--- 2567298 +>>2556457 +me too +--- 2567315 +>>2554636 (OP) +Through my teeth. I had my gaps adjusted to one micron so I just spit out the giardia. +--- 2567606 +>>2565447 + +or just... you know... squeeze the water through the filter as intended. This is retarded +--- 2567629 +>>2554636 (OP) +Iodine. +--- 2568356 +>>2554636 (OP) +If water is clear and I only need to get rid of parasites from cows grasing and shitting higher up in the mountain, I just use Micropur. + +If water is not clear (this is rare in the Alps but happens every now and then) I first run it through a coffee filter to get it in my bottle. Then Micropur. + +Never had any issue. +--- 2568358 +>>2564742 +>never been out +>planning through hike + +Bro lol.. + +Also way too much crap diff --git a/out/2556960.txt b/out/2556960.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..50fe8f692c940b54d5af854dd7073e6adf79dfbd --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2556960.txt @@ -0,0 +1,162 @@ +----- +--- 2556960 +I wonder how much of /out/ has had some involvement with boy scouts. + +Share your good or bad experiences. +--- 2557032 +>>2556960 (OP) +Good : +-learning cool song +-bullying the younger one by spreading disinformation or telling them to look for thing that don't exist +- cool war reanactment with the boys inawood + +Bad : +- Middle class christian cringe +- Some verry retard people + +Overall 8/10, would do it again +But I don't think I gonna send my son there, thing don't seem to be as good now. +--- 2557045 +>>2556960 (OP) +It’s all a factor of the adult involvement. + +There was almost no heavy handed Christianity when I was in Scouts. We prayed before meals, stated that a Scout is reverent, and kept God in the pledge of allegiance, but that was about it. I think it’s because everyone here is Catholic rather than a false religion (all others). + +We went on campouts once a month, with day trips (not always inna woods) interspersed between. There was always something going on. It was usually car camping, but still a good time. The few backpacking trips we went on were pretty bad due to the adults not knowing their assholes from their elbows. + +It all went downhill after a national “urban outreach” program resulted in a lot of low income inner city kids joining. +--- 2557050 +Interesting...I never considered that religion would be a big part of some troops traditions. For me it was pretty tame for the most part. +>before going on /out/ings I could recall and no changing of the pledge(didn't know people took offense to that). Favorite moments on a trip? The time we cooked a ribeye over an open fire, that was fun. +--- 2557059 +>>2556960 (OP) +I was part of it for one year, me and another boy always wrestled each other and fought and the other boys would cheer us on, like two monkeys fighting for everyone’s amusement, we enjoyed it and so did the other boys, who would occasionally jump in and quickly tap out, but always laughing and having a good time. Eventually we were both told to not come back because all we did was fight. Looking back, we never had any adult supervision and if it was 2023 we probably would have been encouraged to do it naked and invite into the young leader program. + +I learned nothing. +--- 2557073 +>>2557050 +my troop was 100% kids from my catholic school so if anything it was less religious? lotta hikes and campouts, loved the orienteering. +--- 2557101 +>>2556960 (OP) +Second best time of my life was scout outings. Rafting trips had us forming boarding parties, and attempting to throw the crews of other rafts into the river while shouting pirate slogans. Tackling a nigga off the other raft worked until I tried it on an older scout, and he caught me midair, and threw me overboard. We sang shanties too. +Canoe trips saw us getting lost, turning down the wrong section of river, having to hop out and run carrying a canoe over a quarter mile of woodland not to get left behind. Felt like special forces work. +Hiking trips saw us learning navigation, basic herbalism, fishing, trapping, knot tying, the works. Any basic skill for /out/ing was either taught by an older scout, or learned by experiance. + Retard forgot the frying pan? No problem. Go to the riverbed and find a large, flat rock. +Hail shredded the tents? No problem. The adults brought sewing kits. Get crackin, boys. +Guy suddenly gets apendicidas mid 30 mile hike and cant walk? Welp, looks like we're rotating hand made stretcher duty, and who carries his stuff. +Bored in camp? Organize patrols into factions, give them sticks, and have them larp as midieval kingdoms, waring with eachother, learning how battles work. +Two kids get mad at eachother? Wait till the adults are gone and settle it in a scuffle. +Good times. Great people. I do have to say though, pretty much everything I described cant happen anymore. Complete policy overhauls, from what I understand. When my older brothers did it, they would hunt, and cook what they caught, whether it was legal or not (heavy emphasis was placed on respect for wildlife). When I was in, we did the shot above, and more. I just talked to one of the older guys in the troop I was from a week or so ago. He was just joining when I was leaving. Appearantly, they dont camp anywhere without power and running water now, and God help you if you get in a fight. +--- 2557111 +>>2557101 +My patrol was called Wizard Lizard as well. From what I understand it’s pretty common. +--- 2557417 +>>2557111 +Thats cool as hell. We were the wolverines. +--- 2557476 +>>2557045 +>It all went downhill after a national “urban outreach” program resulted in a lot of low income inner city kids joining. +as it always does with most everything ugh +--- 2557502 +>>2556960 (OP) +Did it, it was like a fucking arts and crafts class, and we rarely did any actual /out/ stuff. Stupid ceremonies. +--- 2557533 +>>2557502 +That is unfortunate Anon. That reminds me of when I went on a camping trip with my sisters girl scout troop as a chaperone. Literally spend 100% of the time doing shitty volunteer work. +--- 2558867 +>>2557111 +That's cool few words away from KGATLW. I had many patrol's I was apart of the Black Mustangs, Labyrinth, Raven, and "Green Bar" (Like a separate patrol of just the SPL, ASPL's, and Instructor). + +But also scouts was awesome for me getting to Eagle my sister doing it as well. Going to a World Jamboree and meeting people from all around the world and even getting the chance to talk to someone on the ISS while there. Working as a manager at my local scout camp. Doing the dumbest shit late at night with good friends. Meeting some of the people in my life I honestly could say I see as brothers not just friends. It was a great program and I loved every second of it. +--- 2558907 +>>2556960 (OP) +Eagle Scout 02 AMA +--- 2559028 +>>2558907 +Off the top of my head; what was your eagle scout project? Favorite camping trip? Craziest moment? Troop size? Troop traditions? Summer camp shenanigans? Can't think of anymore right now. +--- 2559032 +>>2556960 (OP) +troop 634, Batesville IN. Miss it dearly. We were a bunch of pyros lol. +--- 2559894 +>>2557476 +Idk I've met some good kids in scout reach, they usually just want to escape the hellish reality of their ghetto. +--- 2560869 +>>2559028 +>I made some "habitat" for game fish in this one lake. Basically palates anchored with cement for the fish to fuck inside. Got Home Depot to donate a bunch of shit and all the troop to pour concrete and tie stuff for pizza lol. +>Philmont, duh. Shoutout to Yellowstone and Yosemite as well. +>Craziest/summer camp shenanigans were probably putting things like CO2 canisters in the campfire, as a joke. +>40 or so boys as far as I recall +>Grand Canyon Council, for the record. +--- 2560879 +>>2556960 (OP) +Life Scout got out when 18 +Good: +-Met good friends +-Had fun +-Learned responsibility +-Improved as a person +-Cheap +-Outdoors stuff is rad + +Bad: +-The cliques that exist in school are there too, not really nerds vs jocks or anything, but rich vs poor. +-Not all troops are created equal +--- 2562099 +Troop 217 here +James Stanton Raped me and others +--- 2562286 +>>2557101 +thank you anon +--- 2562297 +>>2556960 (OP) +it sucked ass but I think that was just my troop. +> joined boyscouts with a good amount of outdoors experience +> used to own an old 1940s boyscout handbook that had a lot of cool shit ranging from how to use camouflage properly to how to make fresh water fish traps +> was expecting cool shit like going innawoods, hanging out with the boys, shooting guns and learning more about nature and such +> mfw all we learnt the whole time I was there was how to not get diddled by the scout master and how to memorize stupid pledges +> mfw the only innawoods thing we did was a walk on the local bike path +I quit after a good couple of months, we didnt even get to go to summer camp. desu just dont join if you still have a chance, and dont put your kids in either, just buy the 1940s handbook and go by yourself or with friends. + +(heres a couple links to the book I had) +https://www.amazon.com/Scout-Field-Book-Scouts-America/dp/B00U58YAKI +https://ebornbooks.com/shop/scouting/scout-field-book-boy-scouts-of-america-1950-5th-printing-by-james-e-west/ +--- 2563721 +>>2562297 +Youre experience sounds a bit similar to my own. We love to romanticize the past but I cannot even begin to recall the amount of times we were taught the same 3 knots because of lack of actual planning ahead of time. All that I have retained in my memory in spite of how often we practiced them was the square knot. I partially blame this for the slow decline of the troop. +--- 2563893 +>>2556960 (OP) +It probably would have been more fun if an older kid hadn't molested me +--- 2565056 +>>2556960 (OP) +Eagle here, the best part is the middle ground when you aren't like a scout or tenderfoot but before life or Eagle (unless you're one of those 14 year old eagles). If you give half a shit you will learn important /out/ stuff while hanging out with friends, hearing funny stories and making your own. Looking back I had a hell of a time and would do it all over again in a heartbeat, the pros mentioned by everyone else pretty much applies: friends, fun, outdoors, etc. + +Idk about now though, I feel like the Troop matters more than anything because nobody cares about what national thinks anymore, but that means that if you're in a bad troop you're kind of sol. A good troop with good friends will usually lead to some fun experiences innawoods. +--- 2565383 +>>2556960 (OP) +My cousin and I joined boyscouts. My dad got weird vibes from one of the instructors. He pulled me out. A couple years my cousin was molested. Not much was done, the guy was basically forced to leave town and not really punished as he shouldve been (tortured and killed). + +Cousin seemed okish for awhile, but now he's a bad drug addict and life is train wreck. He got endocarditis and has really fucked himself up. +--- 2565497 +>>2556960 (OP) +It was mainly positive +>Good: +All leaders were ex mil and forced strict fitness and grooming discipline +Almost weekly camping trips +Learned how to shoot all types of guns +Learned how to hunt +Focus on faith and duty +Boy scout camp was awesome, rip Paul Bunyan +High adventure was awesome +Great group of guys to hang out with at school and church +Eagle scout felt like a big accomplishment +>Bad: +Cringe Indian mystic shit at bigger events with the area council +Council being horribly mismanaged +One helicopter mom that would come to events uninvited +Retarded kid from Kazakhstan that was cool 80% of the time but spazzed out randomly. Had retard strength and endurance so he pulled his weight. +My troop being shut down for kicking people out who were lazy or future school shooters. +--- 2565510 +I jerked off my friend on a cabin camping trip to see if I was gay. Also took his ADHD pills on a separate trip. Got my Eagle and brain damage. Hoping to give back to the troop but non-sexually +--- 2567923 +The good, tied some knots, went camping once, made a fire. +The bad, got gaped by three mormons. diff --git a/out/2557408.txt b/out/2557408.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..56cbe5be17e7fafd89df2451ca537ee852a90d24 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2557408.txt @@ -0,0 +1,409 @@ +----- +--- 2557408 +What’s your favorite meal to cook after a long hike? For me it’s a good roast or some kind of stew. It’s hearty and filling and puts me straight to sleep. +--- 2557420 +>>2557408 (OP) +Anyone who carries all the necessary ingredients and equipment to make a stew or roast has never been on a long hike. The correct answer is peanut butter and tortillas +--- 2557425 +>>2557420 +Yeah okay, bud. If you pack it as the first night’s meal with frozen meat it will be perfectly thawed by the end of day 1. Sorry you only take foods that an autistic child can make. +--- 2557428 +>>2557425 +How long is day one? +--- 2557437 +>>2557428 +Usually about 15 miles. Most of the time I do 3-4 day hikes. +--- 2557441 +>>2557408 (OP) +half a can of spam +--- 2557443 +>>2557408 (OP) +I like picrel as a meal or as a base with chorizo and rice/bread. 25 portions of hearty mushroom soup in a small tub +Lots of instant noodles (the good asian brands, i love em) +Tins of spicy macrel/sardines on fire toast +Fruit +Peanuts/chocolate raisins for energy +Rabbits or fish that I catch +Can carry butter without it spoiling, at reasonable temps. Definitely a nice addition +Teas/coffee/energy drinks +Small plastic bottle of whiskey/jaegermeister for a nightcap + +I grab some fresh foods on the way out like ready-made sandwiches/pies for the first evening, to conserve my packed goods. With the listed supplies I can happily do 2-5 nights. There isn't much point in overthinking it unless you're heading out into serious wilderness. +--- 2557444 +>>2557437 +Yeah ok +--- 2557452 +>>2557437 +15 miles in a day is pathetically slow, less than 2 mph assuming just 8 hours of hiking +--- 2557455 +>>2557452 +God I hate this larping bullshit. +--- 2557457 +>>2557452 +Obvious b8 but Hike whatever distance you feel comfortable with man. No one’s controlling you. +--- 2557459 +>>2557441 +>half a can of sperm +--- 2557460 +>>2557441 +Replace that with a can of deenz and some Powerade and you got it. + +>>2557457 +Shut the fuck up newfag. Not everything is bait. Jesus. +--- 2557462 +>>2557460 +You’ll need the Powerade after a long butt fucking sesh in the wilderness with your boyfriend +--- 2557731 +Here‘s a really crazy idea, bear with me: +Everyone can enjoy being outside in the ways that they enjoy. +Radical, I know +--- 2557766 +>>2557452 +>I don't know what elevation gain is +Hey flatland dweller, some of us have actual terrain to deal with. +--- 2557776 +>>2557420 +>1x potato +>1x carrot +>1x small broccoli +>1x dehydrated beef +>1x stew powder +Wow bro that is so fucking heavy omg how can anyone carry that my god so much weight +--- 2557802 +>>2557420 +>long hike +>peanut butter and tortillas + +No thanks. I will carry more weight and eat proper meal so I don't feel like shit after eating goyslop for 5 days +--- 2557837 +>>2557804 +>implying hot spices cause digestive problems when they actually prevent them in proper dosage +Nice meme. +Eat more fiber +--- 2557845 +>>2557802 +>>2557776 +>>2557460 +>>2557452 +>>2557437 +>>2557425 +>>2557408 (OP) +These are the people who don’t hike. Some of them prioritize camping (which is fine), and some have never been outside. Most of their opinions are shit. +--- 2557847 +>>2557845 +I hike. Stop the gatekeeping. +--- 2557854 +One of the best ways to hike (or camp, idgaf) is to bring awesome food mostly pre-prepped. I'll fill a 40 oz Nalgene with stew and bring a home baked loaf of french bread and some butter for the first night, that's the buena vida niggas. My old lady makes the bombest of burritos in every flavor, or quiche, or anything else that's heavy on fat that you crave after putting in some vert. Freeze the filling and bring the torts seperate. +Before you malign my ability to make distance carrying heavy shit, I'm tall and 240 lbs, I could carry most of you twinks in my fanny pack, if I had one. +If distance is your measure of grit, then cut your toothbrush in half and subsist on dried pig dicks and Tang, more power to you. You'll never see us, off-piste bushwhacking to the ultimate sites you'll never see while you're head down trying to get somewhere in a hurry. Check your strava again, you're almost on pace for thirteenth place. +--- 2557855 +>>2557854 +>doesn’t know the difference between hiking and camping +>still tried gatekeeping +>is an enormous fatass +--- 2557856 +>>2557837 +Yeah I never get a bad stomach from hot food even if it's red hot. Quite the opposite really +--- 2557863 +Quality of terrain & destination > distance, although they are often related. +I live near one of the clusterfuck capitals of the outdoors yet somehow we don't see anyone for days after leaving the TH. +Pic related, didn't see a single person the whole day. No tracks, the first ones in that area this spring. +We ate tuna sammiches, pepperoni, cheese and crackers and drank the snowmelt unfiltered, it was delicious. +--- 2557866 +>>2557855 +Kek, you're so dumb even your friends can tell. I can dunk a spookball and rek your shit at any sport. Also I have photos from the great outdoors, which is more than you can say. I piss on you from considerable height, Paco. +--- 2557888 +>>2557863 +It’s true everywhere. I took a trip to Zion years ago and the Disney Words comparisons are true until you get a few hours from the trailheads. The buses that run through the park were so packed we had to wait for a second one. It was peak season and it was to be expected, and we saw a few people on the trail but it was really shocking how few. The same for Great Smoky Mountain NP last year. Clingman’s Dome lives up to the “expectation/reality/ meme, and that where I parked. But for four days I saw like 4 groups of people, and all of them were on the AT section. +--- 2558403 +>>2557804 +I'm sorry pal but spicy thai chili tuna is the bomb. I will never stop consuming it. +--- 2558416 +>>2557856 +Onions fuck me up more than habaneros.. +--- 2558472 +>>2557420 +Anyone who has been out long enough and got a piece of fresh meat and a couple of vegetables a month in knows how much that stuff will make your mouth water +--- 2558485 +Either rice balls or something sturdy enough to be carried around all day at room temperature. Bringing some stew is cool, but really just give me water and a few basic survival snacks and I'll catch the rest maybe trout or salmon, or perhaps a turkey if I'm very lucky +--- 2558540 +>>2558416 +I am so, so sorry that you do not get to enjoy the pure pleasure that is an onion centric diet. +--- 2558718 +>>2557420 +Stew is made in heaps of ways. You can literally make a stew in a jetboil or a kidney cup, stew doesn't have to be an all day 5 person meal cooked in a massive fuck off cast iron pot. You can even buy it in bags, just warm it up and you're ready to go. +--- 2558968 +>>2557408 (OP) +Personally, I like venison steak and blackberry jam after I take down a deer and harvest some berries after a long day of hiking +--- 2558969 +>>2558472 +yeah but imagine carrying a cast iron pot like op, holy shit +--- 2559208 +>>2558969 +That’s a pic from google you retard. I carry a lightweight pan. +--- 2559804 +>>2557408 (OP) +>eating something like that right before going to sleep +holy shit why. +--- 2559815 +>>2557408 (OP) +>carry a large cast iron pot to make stew on "long hikes" + +i dont believe you. I usually take some kind of frozen meat like sausages and buns for the first day. the idea that someone is carrying around a roast, potatoes and carrots and broth which are extremely calorie light to weight ratio is laughable. Do you take your microwave and car battery too? Just say you day hike and cook it at home, its fine. +--- 2559817 +>>2557425 +I have done that backpacking. pack a frozen steak and by the end of the day its thawed and ready to cook +--- 2559841 +>>2559804 +>he's never had that big-meal-sleepy-feeling +My sympathies, anon +--- 2559850 +>>2559841 +White people call it a “food coma.” +--- 2559956 +>I never said anything about carrying a cast iron pan. I cook my food in foil and simmer in medium aluminum pan from my mess kit that weighs like half a pound total. +--- 2560004 +>>2559815 +Day hikes with the cast iron are actually fun. You get get there in the morning, spend the entire day at your site screwing around and cooking a delicious stew, and then clean up and go home once the sun starts to set. A perfect day. I don't get why /out/casts try to act all tough like you're somehow "cheating" or a fraud unless you spend 15 days straight in the wilderness with nothing but a 15 pound pack, living off dehydrated meals and filtered swamp water. +--- 2560055 +>>2560004 +Did you read the OP? Please explain the synopsis of it. +--- 2560103 +>>2557854 +>120 kg +>but I'm tall +>not gonna tell you how tall +kek, gotta love Americans +--- 2560164 +>>2560055 +Irrelevant. I was responding to the post that I quoted, not OP. OP never even said anything about cast iron. You just made a dumb assumption based on his cozy picture. +--- 2560479 +>>2560004 + +Learn to read. OP asks favorite for meal to cook after a long hike. Start your own thread if you want to bitch about distance elitism. Which is both real and completely valid by the way. +--- 2560528 +>>2560164 +Yes, you responded to a post about hiking, which was referencing the OP, which is about hiking. I never said anything about cast iron either. + +Seriously bruh, get the fuck out. +--- 2560536 +Goulash, if i'm staying a couple of days i do a proper one in a stove pot but if i am on a day trip i usually bring one with some bread. its glorious. +--- 2560551 +>>2560528 +>get the fuck out +Do people actually expect that to do something? +--- 2560596 +>>2560528 +>I never said anything about cast iron either. +You clearly did in: >>2559815 +--- 2560602 +>>2560596 +>There’s no possible way more than one person disagrees with me +>Everyone is the same person! +This is a symptom of schizophrenia +--- 2560603 +>>2560602 +You clearly aren't capable of following the conversation in that case, since my critique was directed specifically at the post I was quoting. If you don't want to be mistaken for someone else, then don't white knight their posts as if they're your own. +--- 2560607 +>>2560603 +Again, the post you were quoting was about hiking, as it followed what the OP was talking about. You’re the one who can’t follow the conversation. The topic, for the third time, is hiking. Not car camping. +--- 2560610 +>>2560607 +I never said anything about car camping. You can go for a short dayhike with cast iron, especially if you're in a group. I've done it. +--- 2560624 +>muh dikstance +You rule makers are a bunch of fags, and you're probably short. +Are we allowed to carry tall cans 4000 vert in five miles, if it's the first night? I don't even like beer that much but I'll carry some for my girl just to feel the weight drop off. +--- 2560625 +I don't see many pics you city niggers. +How bout a slab of HAM and a fat chaw after 3.5 miles of bushwhacking? Is that allowed? +--- 2560628 +Here's something good to bring, make a bunch of these. They'll keep for a couple days without freezing. +--- 2560629 +Usually use an egg wash on em but wanted to try without, they were still good. +--- 2560630 +Here's some food for you distance lords, you can eat some paint brushes +--- 2560634 +>>2560610 +>You get get there in the morning, spend the entire day at your site screwing around and cooking a delicious stew, and then clean up and go home once the sun starts to set. + +Nigger how is that not car camping? How do you get there in the morning and spend the entire day at a campsite? Did you hike in at night? +--- 2560639 +I'm the only person in this thread to post /out pics, you are all useless. +Is this an image board or not. Get your shit together nerds +Akchually just fuck off and eat a fart sandwich +--- 2560640 +>>2560639 +How do I get a 40yo out girlfriend? +--- 2560642 +>>2560640 +Be taller +--- 2560643 +>>2560640 +>girlfriend +That’s a man +--- 2560645 +One minute bikini weather, the next lightning and gully washers. The West is the best +--- 2560651 +Still no pics eh +Ima let you finish but my fav is chile verde burritos after a long haul. Pic unrelated +--- 2560654 +The longest hike you Shitneequas do is to the bathroom at wallyworld +--- 2560659 +If the stew is too heavy maybe bring a lighter tent. Maybe stop being a pussy idk +--- 2560672 +>>2560634 +>he doesn't know what car camping is +Just because you drive a car to your entry point doesn't mean it's car camping you retard +--- 2560684 +I can't really do a lot of distance any more, but I do love proper campfire steaks. There's something about carving up a bigass hunk of beef with a fixed blade and making four caveman steaks roasted on sticks. +--- 2560685 +ITT: goyslop +--- 2560687 +>>2560684 +Fugg yeah, and frozen steaks can keep until day 2 breakfast at least. Bring several. +--- 2560690 +>>2557408 (OP) +Beef jerky and dried bananas +--- 2560701 +>>2560672 +>get there +What did you do after that? Did you spend part of the day hiking to a campsite? +>spend your entire day at your site screwing around and cooking +Pretty comfy, sure. But you did go hiking, right? +>pick up and go home + +You’re right, it’s not car camping. It’s a picnic or bbq or something. +--- 2560713 +>>2560701 +>What did you do after that? Did you spend part of the day hiking to a campsite? +Of course. That's why I called it a day hike and not a day drive. +--- 2560955 +>>2557845 +Its possible that some people have physically trained themselves to be a pack mule by routinely carrying heavy bags. That person is not moving any faster going ultralite. Ultralite hikers are 90 pounds body weight and unable to ruck gear but maybe share the board outside of that niche or make friends with one since they can handle rucking in the gear. +--- 2560974 +>>2560955 +/out/ is a newb echo chamber +--- 2560986 +>>2560974 +>echo chamber +In that the echo is almost always a variation of "fuck you", yes +--- 2560994 +>>2560986 +>I wouldn’t benefit from a lighter pack +>ultralight is so people can go faster +>people do it because they’re week +Tiresome and newbish +--- 2560997 +Me and my brother have a tradition going back to the 90s. We would spend a week or two camping in the White Mountains and would do one big hike or maybe two small hikes, and always return to the cozy campground after to recover. 4 days huffing ass across the Presidentials? Stop at MackDonalds on the way home. 1 day huffing ass up to Glen Boulder and Mt Isolattion? Stop at MackDonalds on the way home. + +I'm sure plenty of people have enjoid McDicks as much as me and my bro over the last 25yrs, but nobody has enjoid it more. + +Sorry for the blogpost and the boring answer but for me, it'll always be that calorie dump as my favorite post-/out/ meal. +--- 2561104 +>>2560994 +nta, but yes +--- 2561108 +>>2560639 +Can i has recipe for FARD SAMMICH? xD +--- 2561130 +>>2560639 +whos dat your mom +--- 2561160 +Look at my balls, nagglers +--- 2561252 +>>2561160 +I would put those balls in my mouth +--- 2561325 +>>2557408 (OP) +Meat, vegetables, and fruit is the normal human diet. How far some modern humans have strayed. +--- 2561616 +>>2557459 +How long does it take you to harvest 1 trips worth? +--- 2561619 +>>2561325 + +See: >>2557455 +--- 2561700 +>>2561619 +That's larping? Lmao lol. What do you eat for a meal anon? +--- 2561713 +>>2561619 +>eating normal whole foods is larping +>noooooooooo you have to buy the PRODUCT to enjoy the outdoors!!!! +--- 2561740 +>>2561160 +mmmm that's a tasty meatball.... NOT THAT A NIGGER WOULD KNOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA +--- 2561817 +>>2560713 +>I spent the entire day at the site +>I went hiking +It can’t be both +--- 2561819 +I just posted in the potato thread that all food threads on /out/ separate the people that go on extended outings (generally hiking) from those that don’t. It’s painfully obvious who’s just shitposting and who acktchually has experience. +--- 2561822 +>>2557408 (OP) +>cooking after a long hike +as easy and short as possible. Best just buy something if possible. +--- 2561857 +>>2561817 +Oh gee whiz you got me there, check mate i guess. +--- 2561859 +>>2561819 +Who gives a shit, you some sort of try-hand pretend elitist? As long as people are enjoying the /out/doors that's all that matters. You're not impressing anyone. +--- 2561899 +>>2561859 +Tell it to the faggots saying backpacking food is le bad. +--- 2562868 +>>2557420 +>Anyone who carries all the necessary ingredients and equipment to make a stew or roast has never been on a long hike. +Eh, it's not that much weight unless you bring a god damn cast iron dutch oven or something. +Plus, it's worth the extra sweat and sore muscles to have a good fucking meal after a long, cold day. +--- 2562882 +>>2561859 +Based. +"Backpackers" are the most insufferable people on this board by a comfortable margin. +--- 2562894 +>>2557408 (OP) + +Shashlik with roasted onions, tomatoes and potatoes. +--- 2563091 +>>2557408 (OP) +I just slice some bread open and fill it with ham, sardines or tuna. +--- 2565637 +>>2563091 +based /cannadeenz/ poster +--- 2565663 +>>2562882 +But they also seem to be the only people with any kind of experience or knowledge base. +--- 2565679 +>>2565663 +That's not remotely true, but thanks for providing Example #50231 for why backpackers are the most insufferable group on /out/ +--- 2565742 +>>2565679 +It’s very true and this thread proved it. +--- 2566995 +Speaking as someone who was a security guard (lots of walking) up until last month? Luncheon meat mixed into white rice or macaroni and cheese, lentil mash with dried veggies, corned beef mixed into white rice, canned fish in fideo noodles, tortillas topped with canned ham and ez-cheese or with trail mix and peanut butter. These are things I could pile into a backpack-sized sterilite and carry into nowhere for a week. + +Humanitarian Daily Rations are very cheap now. Fifty bucks for a case of ten. Two of those is a weeks' worth of food if you stretch it. + +Going to grab more Knorr packets today. You can use powdered nobfat milk and cooking oil in place of lowfat milk and butter. Could probably use canned chicken in those. Have to brown it first... +--- 2566999 +>>2566995 +>Humanitarian Daily Rations are very cheap now. +All vegetarian, btw. And they taste like absolute ass compared to MRE’s. +--- 2567668 +>>2557420 +I enjoy OP's post. I don't enjoy your tryhard garbage. Go flex about hardcore your hikes are at your hostel, maybe some of the other homeless drug addicts will find them impressive. +--- 2567733 +>>2557420 +fpwp +--- 2567739 +>>2567668 +stop taking prozac +--- 2567741 +>>2567668 +That other guy's post was also irrelevant because the OP specifically meantioned cooking his meal AFTER he finishes his hike and not during. It's like these backpacking retards have no concept of a base camp. +--- 2567774 +>>2567741 +You mean car camping. Otherwise OP did carry all of that stuff on a hike. diff --git a/out/2557807.txt b/out/2557807.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2e8819ecacc1a1ebee77567cb7558d14f8fa2087 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2557807.txt @@ -0,0 +1,536 @@ +----- +--- 2557807 +why is every thread people fighting with eachother? I am new here but usually chill at other boards and they feel like a more close community but coming on here just makes me depressed +--- 2557810 +Welcome to the worst board on all of 4chan. +--- 2557820 +>>2557807 (OP) +We're actually all good friends irl but /out/ is where we post our fantasies. None of us actually ever go outside. Just hang /out/ and have a drink with us and HARDEN THE FUCK UP. + +Aw shit anon, I was just joshin' ya. Here, have a beer. Want some trail mix? Here, pull that Helinox Chair Zero up closer to the fire. + +You sure got a purty mouth... +--- 2557827 +The main strategy of the parasites that infest this shithole is to divide. +In no case can they allow a feeling of rapport to develop, or this dump would create an army of dissidents willing to cause chaos irl in defense of their frends. +The jannies reserve their fiercest loathing for anons that are nice. +It's a microcosm of the jewSA, same principles apply. +>inb4 thread balleeted in 3, 2, 1 +--- 2557829 +There are 2 or 3 guys who sit on this board 24/7 constantly complaining about what /out/ 'used' to be they samefag threads to death if they don't like the subject. + +I'm pretty sure they're genuine oldfags that used to use other boards but can't cope with how much 4chan has changed and so have abandoned them focusing all of their effects on /out/ in a last ditch attempt at saving one board. Unfortunately they are prone to autistic meltdowns and have taken on the role of pseudo-jannies (this board does not have dedicated jannies all moderation comes from other boards) and all of this has lead to utter chaos here. What you have is a minority of people with extremely strong opinions, autism, multiple IP addresses and a moderation team that do not understand this board and so delete anything with the most reports. +--- 2557832 +>>2557807 (OP) +/out/ has tons of newfags with shit takes and tiresome bullshit opinions based on little or no experience. And I don’t mean they’re new to the board. They’re new to outdoor recreation. +--- 2557833 +because we actually don't go out we just larp and buy expensive shit to post them on here but we usually don't step outside +--- 2557835 +>>2557829 +>Unfortunately they are prone to autistic meltdowns +i kek'd +--- 2557842 +>>2557833 +>expensive shit +The “show us your kit” thread is almost entirely jokes and AliExpress budget gear. +--- 2557844 +>>2557842 +Oyyyyy veyyy, most of us don't have $100 to spend on schlocky trinkets, $80 is a lot of money. $60 is too much for that, go ask your mom for $50. +--- 2557851 +>>2557807 (OP) +This is 4chan. +Hating things is kinda our schtick. +--- 2557884 +>>2557807 (OP) +hey fuck you +--- 2558522 +conceptually its a self defeating board. it can only really be used to discuss gear and locations, after that? You go outside. So people argue over using a knife to baton wood and what water bottle is best, what's the best ultralight under 100 dollar tent, etc. Consumerism, elitism and other shit. Its like, if you go out and take a couple pics, share 'em here I guess but why bother? Oh well. Its fun to check in on in case somebody actually has a good story, but ultimately, if you go outside, you're not on 4chan. +--- 2558535 +>>2557807 (OP) +>why is every thread people fighting with eachother? +The elections brought in a shit ton of morons. Their unmitigated stupidity drove away anything of value. +--- 2558541 +>>2557807 (OP) +Oh, terribly sorry anon. We'll all hold hands and sing Kumbaya for you. +--- 2558561 +Mostly drunk /k/ommsndoes and /pol/ tards who escaped +--- 2558660 +>>2557807 (OP) +>why is every thread people fighting with eachother? +because /out/ is too vague for a board topic, so you have fags saying they like hiking arguing with ATV/motorbikering fags over who has the right to some public land because no one here can afford their own land. this board is literally every single public land argument over every single little thing, because you're all gay poorniggers get fucked faggots +--- 2559329 +>>2557807 (OP) +Not me, I post quality stuff. + +https://youtu.be/Da7GSy-6mJY?t=57 [Embed] +--- 2559333 +>>2557807 (OP) +Only nuanced and experienced outfags can distinguish the sarcasm and trolling from genuine advice. + +>>2557842 +Sure, I post kek gear on "gear threads" that's what they are for. +--- 2559340 +>>2557807 (OP) +for the past 3 or so years this board has been nothing but crossposting and shitposting sewer by corona tourists mainly from /pol/ +things might never get back to normal but OC, fishing and hortonomy threads are always here so it feels like home +--- 2559369 +This board probably a microcosm of outdoor recreation issues at the national scale, which boils down to too many people trying to use available resources. That's why we're trying to slow population growth and limit access to public lands -- the sooner we can prevent unnecessary access, the sooner the ecosystems will recover. WEF corporate partners and governments strive to bring social responsibility to outdoor recreation. With your cooperation we will achieve equity in the outdoors and reverse global warming. +--- 2559374 +>>2559369 +aka locking poor people into their wagecages and homepods. +--- 2559390 +>>2559369 +Brb have to burn some tyres +--- 2559466 +>>2558561 +>Mostly drunk /k/ommsndoes +At least we go /out/ to go shooting. +--- 2559532 +>>2557807 (OP) +I think there are two main contributors to the infighting: +1. The influx of /pol/tards. +2. Gear-obsessed anons who love to argue over equipment. +--- 2559544 +>>2559532 +don't forget the runaway from home men-children. +--- 2559560 +>>2559532 +And the influx from /a/ and lebbit thanks to vaguely outdoors-related animes +--- 2559564 +That's why I stopped coming on 4chan so much man I used to enjoy it when I was an edgy little cunt but holy shit there's no point. All hobby focused boards are just arguing about gear, /g/ /k/ /p/ and /out/ is just a pissing match of who bought the latest meme and weirdo gay brand loyalty +--- 2559567 +Fishing general is filled with anglers who actually know their shit. You can sift through the banter and the troll posting quite easily if you're an avid angler. The common thing you see is non-anglers shitting on bass fishermen despite the fact the few bass guys who post their regularly absolutely know a thing or two and don't mind handing out advice. Then there's a bunch of fly anglers yearning to teach, a bunch of PNW anglers who catch nice trout / steelhead, etc. + +We have 1 or 2 people who try to shit it up, but everyone has learned to make fun of them and move on. Look at /off-road general/ and it's the exact opposite. One guy has been trolling them for ~3 months now it seems and they still keep replying to him and nothing of value is discussed due to it. +--- 2559568 +>>2557832 +Agreed. I think it’s the biggest problem. Maybe it’s because the concept of going outdoors is so simple that deviation from normal experience seems so dumb or made up. +--- 2559569 +>>2557829 +>it’s only 2 or 3 people +>it can’t be dozens of people telling me I’m wrong +>they all have mental defects +>they’re using multiple IP addresses! +Real schizo hours +--- 2559775 +>>2557807 (OP) +What other board feels like a more close community? Every board I've ever used has someone ready to call you a retard on it at a moment's notice similar to here. +--- 2559778 +>>2559569 +I know it's you bro you post the exact same pics over and over again +--- 2560222 +>>2557807 (OP) +>All I do is gatekeep and complain +leave, no one will miss you. +You reddlt retards have zero self awareness and have bant I'd expect from a tween (boring, repetitive, almost never relevant, whiny) +>>2557820 +This retard, for example, posts this in every thread. +>We +Imagine being so self absorbed you think you speak for other people on an anonymous website. +>>2557827 +Lots of words to say something retarded +in a thread about trash quality on the board. +Truly retarded ant totally lacking self awareness. No wounder life is hard for you. +>>2557851 +Reddlt transplants can't comprehend every board belongs to /pol/ and /pol/ evolved from /b/... /out/ was an afterthought and is one of the "new" boards. +Reddlt retards come here and try to make it a hugbox echo chamber and get pissy because they don't comprehend what it is and cry about not being able to gatekeep, shame, and group think consensus like they're accustomed to. + +tl;dr: Reddlt transplants are retarded but no one tells them on reddlt because of uproot and censorship then they come here and get slammed for being retarded and cry about it constantly. +--- 2560367 +>>2557810 +No, that's easily /k/ since the whole ukraine bullshit started. +--- 2560533 +>>2557832 +This place really does have the absolute worst takes on a lot of stuff, and it’s really old, tiresome bullshit. + +Remember the thread about taking off your shoes vs leaving them on when crossing a creek? Absolute retard tier opinions. +--- 2560538 +>>2560533 +Let me guess. You're the retard who keeps his shoes on for creek crossings. Years later you're still butthurt over getting called out for your dumbfuck opinion. +--- 2560558 +>>2560538 +It was an even split, with half of everyone leaving their shoes on and the other half telling everyone what they would do if they ever went outside. + +The Eagle Rock Loop trail in Ouachita NF is just under 30 miles long with 11 creek crossings (I think it’s 13 after a heavy rain). Would you really stop every ~3 miles to take off your shoes? +--- 2560564 +>>2560558 +I would walk barefoot the entire time instead of putting my shoes on and off like a sperg. Barefoot chads win again. +--- 2560569 +>>2560564 +kek based i do enjoy those waterproof shoes tho. imagine going for a hike unprepared +--- 2560573 +>>2560538 +> caring this much over what other people do +thanks for making this place unbearable +/out/ truly is the biggest schizo board, those nights under the stars clearly have done nothing for your mental disposition. +--- 2560579 +>>2560558 +On the sheltowee me and my friend took our shoes off for the first few crossings after that we just left our shoes on for the next 100. +--- 2560591 +>>2560533 +>this place has bad advice +>>2560569 +>advocating for waterproof shoes + +Holy shit, fucking pottery +--- 2560621 +>>2557807 (OP) +Lemme esplain +Biggest outdoor groups in the country +>hunters +>autistic campers +>instathots(not really outdoorsy but they still show up in the same circles) +>hippies +>upper middle class city libs +>gun larpers +>feral people +So just looking at those groups and considering thier typical ideals, a meeting of the minds is doomed to fail +--- 2560789 +>>2560222 +post tits +--- 2562085 +>>2559532 +This +--- 2562170 +>>2557807 (OP) +times are getting tough and retards need a place to vent where theyre not held accountable for their behaviour. +--- 2562187 +You fuckers are so overdramatic. Have you ever been to /b/? /gif/? /lgbt/? /vt/? /trash/? +Only after the pilgrimmage to all five of those places, will you know true peace from this evil. +--- 2562188 +lush deciduous forests +--- 2562197 +>>2562187 +/b/ is made for trolling and /gif/ is porn and gore. I don’t think either is a blue bird. /tttt/ is just the end result of discovering pornography at 11 years old and caters to the mentally disturbed. So it’s not an apt comparison. +--- 2562219 +>>2562197 +/lgbt/ is a horrible board where you have to egg on people's mental illness or catch a 3 day ban for "trolling". In /out/ I can say fishing is for gaywads and fishers should just shoot the fish with 50 caliber bullets and the mods won't do shit +Freeer speech = better board quality. +--- 2562220 +>>2562197 +Also, you clearly haven't gone to /b/ or /gif/ in years if that's you're impression of them. Go now. Check all five of them out. Then come back and tell me /out/ is the worst place on this godforsaken site. +--- 2562354 +>>2557807 (OP) +It's the Americans. Go to any euro /out/ thread and it's great. Until the muttoids come in and shit everything up that is +--- 2562377 +>>2562197 +>/b/ is made for trolling +/b/ is made for porn and the andy sixx meme. /gif/ is made for bbc/trans psyop threads and tiktok ylyl threads. i used to edit webms and put screamers in them for the lulz +--- 2562530 +>>2562354 +>Go to any euro /out/ thread and it's 3rd worlders seething about the states +fixed +--- 2562572 +>>2557807 (OP) +People who actually go out are chill it's the LARPing faggots from /pol/ and /k/ that stir shit up constantly in every thread +--- 2562574 +>>2557807 (OP) +Most of /out/ doesn't actually care about /out/ stuff directly, they are largely schizoids who use the outdoors, or even just the idea of the outdoors, as a coping mechanism, and being socially retarded mental cripples means they are all in a constant state of misery and are always looking for the closest scapegoat, that being the mental cripple right next to them. +--- 2562579 +>>2562574 +Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions +--- 2562580 +>>2562574 +It's people who constantly make assumptions about other users (i.e. you) who have made this board complete dogshit the past few years. +--- 2562584 +>>2562579 +>>2562580 +>assuuumtions!11 +--- 2562588 +>>2562584 +And projections. Particularly the part about being mentally crippled. +--- 2562590 +>>2562588 +>n-n-no U! +kek, take your meds retard. +--- 2562592 +>>2562590 +>meds +Post nose +--- 2562594 +It's pretty chill if you hang out while americans are asleep. There's a couple of good threads still going. People bickering and obvious trolls / underage posters are pretty easy to pick out and are easily filtered when you click the blue arrow, but hatred is inescapable on 4chan +>>2562197 +>/tttt/ +Underrated and highly accurate post. /lgbt/ is now exclusively straight male "transbians" taking estrogen in an attempt to get laid by other straight males who have been on HRT for longer. It's an entertaining freakshow. Grab a drink and enjoy the ride +>>2557844 +>Oyyyyy veyyy, most of us don't have $100 to spend on schlocky trinkets, $80 is a lot of money. $60 is too much for that, go ask your mom for $50 +Not that anon but if you don't have $100 a week of disposable income to spend on trinkets, you're failing at life and don't speak for "most of us" at all. Do you even look at the most recent outing threads and check the exif data? +--- 2562595 +>>2562592 +jews and retards go in the same oven retard. +--- 2562597 +>>2562595 +Guess you're going in twice then +--- 2562615 +>>2560222 +/pol/ is easily the most reddit board and they only took over other boards after the 2016 election tourists from Reddit came to /pol/ +--- 2562663 +>>2557807 (OP) +It's basically rural vs city niggers squaring off, it's a pretty common thing in real life and anytime they share the same hobby. They are basically incompatible with each other. +--- 2562843 +>>2560367 +no. /k/ will heal after the conflict. /out/ is just a shit-fest of crybabies +--- 2562856 +>>2562579 +>>2562580 +You do know when someone points out in a group "a non complete but significant portion of this group is mentally crippled!", announcing that you are offended at being called a mental cripple, outs yourself as knowing that you are indeed one of the mental cripples, right? +--- 2562997 +>>2562597 +Made me kek, nice one +--- 2562998 +>>2562663 +As a rural day who lives in Philly currently I can say it’s not really those who come from the city that cause the most drama it’s the transplants from the suburbs. I’ve met plenty of nice niggers while fishing in the city and orentials that made me realize it’s just the white retards that make everything suck for most other people. +--- 2563000 +>>2562997 +>replying to himself +take your meds. +--- 2563010 +>>2563000 +Nigga I don’t go on this board enough to want to reply to myself to bump the thread. Appreciate the trips but I don’t know how it could be a self reply unless my neighbor is also posting on /out/ +--- 2563982 +>>2557807 (OP) +Because your gay +--- 2564401 +>>2559532 +every board belongs to /pol/ +You gatekeeping redlt retards post the stupidist shit and spend most of your time crying about getting called out for being retarded. +Say it with me, idiots: +/out/ came long after /pol/ and only retards and reddlters monoboard. +--- 2564406 +>>2562615 +Fun fact: Reddlt used to be good. It didn't last long though. The election tourists were a boon and many got deprogramed on /pol/ or redpilled enough to ease up on sucking trumps dick. +The problem was the tranny brigade that followed them to /pol/,relentlessly posting libcuck spam and 80iq hot garbage. +The seething libcucks are the cancer. +--- 2564432 +>>2559340 +>owl gets a revolver +Baded +--- 2564436 +>>2564406 +It was all downhill after they shutdown r/CoonTown. Reddit is still a good source for some things, and the “Reddit bad” meme is purely political. The backpacking subs are mostly just photos now though, which is ok I guess, but not something I’m interested in. r/ultralight has some good content but is a serious Tarp Tent circle jerk (or it was a few years ago; it was really, really bad). +--- 2564438 +>>2560222 +>Imagine being so self absorbed you think you speak for other people on an anonymous website +Imagine thinking you aren't just a person I made up to argue with. I also made you ugly and stupid so I wont hold it against you, +--- 2564453 +>>2564438 +Your lack of self awareness is truly astounding. +--- 2564524 +>>2564453 +I knew you would say that, you poor ugly bastard +--- 2564569 +>>2557807 (OP) +This is how men comunicate on the internet, even more in 4chan ... + +if you can't take it leave it fag +/out/ is good af kys +--- 2564600 +>>2560222 +>old /b/tard +post your hrt titties make em jiggle for me +--- 2564603 +>>2562219 +>and the mods won't do shit +the problem with this board is there is no janny so any moderation gets done by jannies from boards like origami and papercraft who have no clue what or the fuck is going on here and "off topic" is against the rules. so if you do any amount of posting on this board you catch perpetual bans for 3 month old posts. which leads to this board never keeping long term regular posters. over time most anons wind up fucking off or exclusively coming here to troll and bait. +--- 2564604 +>>2559567 +>Fishing general is filled with anglers who actually know their shit. +>Then there's a bunch of fly anglers yearning to teach, a bunch of PNW anglers who catch nice trout / steelhead, etc. +dude what? +i made a post in there a while ago saying i live in the seattle area and i wanna take my dad fishing before he croaks, asked where around here i should go fishing and what kit i should buy because i don't know anything i haven't gone fishing since i was a teenager. and it got no replies or just some troll shit. +--- 2564607 +oh yeah i remember now, 1 reply calling me a cityfag or something (i don't live there, its just the closest major landmark) +--- 2564609 +>>2564603 +Nailed it. +--- 2564611 +>>2562219 +all these imageboards were horrible things from the beginning. every old /b/tard killed themself or is a tranny. moot's mother is a glownigger, 420chan cp board, etc etc. anyone who knows this site's history doesn't need to be told i'm preaching to the choir. but most users don't know the history. we're all participants in the modern version of the hippie movement, also brought to you by glowniggers. this time it was about getting millenials and zoomers to all do drugs and take sex change hormones. enjoy the ride! +--- 2564613 +>>2564604 +From the perspective of a life-long angler, fishing general is a sorry-ass joke. I hope you and pops had some good times before he passed. +--- 2564614 +its been a death cult from the beginning lol +heres the guy who started modern internet culture, the modern conception of memes etc, he ended his life with no suicide note after beating his wife +--- 2564616 +>>2564613 +hes still got like a year or two i wanna go fishing this summer nigger +--- 2564718 +>>2564614 +wtf are you talking about man? +--- 2565621 +>>2559532 +>1. The influx of /pol/tards. +I feel more of an influx of tourists, than /pol/tards specifically. Feel like 2016 and 2020 each brought in a fuckton more tourists to /pol/, who then infected every other board with their retarded behavior once election shit ended and they searched for new shit to yell about. +Now it's people trying to constantly one-up each other or establish themselves as the authority of /out/, instead of just chilling. Depressing. +--- 2565622 +>>2559560 +/a/ was always here +--- 2565649 +>>2562187 +>the gayest boards are gay +Checks out. I will agree though that /out/ is actually usable. +--- 2565655 +>>2559532 +anyone who complains about muh /pol/ is outing themselves at a redditor +--- 2565688 +>>2565655 +That and unironically being into ultralight are two of the biggest giveaways desu +--- 2565695 +>>2557807 (OP) +Its hippies +The most anger comes from the 'appeal to nature' crowd +The discussion is fine until somebody says they prefer synthetic fabrics, or someone sprays weeds or they eat processed food.or god forbid, you have a lawn or think gmos are not deadly poison +Then it's fucking on +Your a jew, kill yourself, namecalling, speculating about your mental state +And just garbage teir arguments +Appeal to nature has become a religion +And the board is full of zealots +--- 2565893 +Every single board on this shithole is like this + +/trv/ is about how travel is worthless and shit, unless you are a sex tourist +/lit/ is about how what you read is shit +/int/ is about how your country is shit +/biz/ is about how it's time to commit suicide because it's over, as well as scams to take your money + +then there's /pol/ which takes a stinking dump over every other board and fills it full of schizoshit, DA JOOS, and le edgy doomer, blackpill memes from 2015 +--- 2565940 +>>2557832 +A few posts above this one some faggot stated that anyone who’s “into ultralight” is from Reddit. In reality, anyone who’s done a lot of hiking eventually looked into making their hikes more comfortable, and understood why a lighter pack is a good idea. It’s a great example of peak newfag outing himself as such with a worn out, tiresome opinion. +--- 2565957 +>>2565940 +Autistically weighing every item you put into your backpack is peak Reddit. Autistically creating spreadsheets and pie charts for your gear and calorie intake is peak Reddit. + +Ultralight trailhiking fags like you should go back to where you'll find more of an audience for your casual, normie-tier recreation activities. +--- 2565962 +>>2565957 +>ultralight equals casual +See what I mean? Peak newfaggot. +<recreation activities +LARP harder, newfag +--- 2565966 +>>2565962 +All hiking is casual with no barrier to entry. That's why you see way more casuals hiking than rock climbing, mountain biking, scuba diving, hunting, bushcrafting, and other activities that require technical skill and sometimes licenses/certifications. + +Ultralight is just being autistic and obnoxious about an activity that any non-crippled retard can do. At least normie hikers on Facebook and Instagram realize what they're doing isn't special and just want to have an enjoyable experience. Nothing wrong with that. That's more than you can say about UL faggots. +--- 2565970 +>>2565966 +>All hiking is casual +Triples down. The sad part is /out/ is crawling with newfags like this. +>bushcrafting isn’t casual +lol +LMAO +--- 2565974 +>>2565970 +>putting one foot in front of another is hardcore +>having the necessary skills to survive in the wilderness for extended periods of time is totally casual +UL fags are every bit as ignorant as they are arrogant. What more proof does this board need? +--- 2565982 +>>2557807 (OP) +Like a child at a drag show +Or a crack hit in a playground +You better fuckin be down +Or pack your shit and go +--- 2565984 +>>2565966 +Preach +--- 2565985 +>>2565974 +>hiking 25 miles in a day with 20k feet of elevation loss and gain is casual +>building a stick fort within earshot of the interstate is hardcore +The difference is people actually attempt long hikes, while “having the necessary skills to survive in the wilderness” is primarily larping. +--- 2565988 +>>2565985 +Ok, so basically your entire knowledge of bushcrafting is based on passing by some kid's makeshift fort one time. Got it. +--- 2565989 +>>2557829 +just getting TIRED of all the literal copy/pasting of past threads with sections edited out hoping for a GOLDEN MEME filled thread they can sell on REDDIT, QUASIMODO, and other sites/services/apps. +jannies all over 4chan and 4channel ALL make use of copy/paste posts HOPING for a different take for their preferred postings, and allowing newestfags and shit to post bomb the site into oblivion again and again. + +love how the MODS and Jannies LOVE to use 4chan in their job resumes and shit. actually encountered one in a community college, PROUD and WHIPPING HIS BABY DICK AROUND about it. Lots of regular guys/gals avoiding him and/or patting him on the back hoping he doesn't go school shooter. +he also LOVED to use the KEYWORD he was told to use, DISINGENUOUS, believes it causes glowies to get hardons for his dick and save him money for bar hopping. +nowadays you just gotta hop around, try to shift through the waste, give good posts, and laugh at the weasles and tryhard trolls, mods or tryhard betamax mods. +Also thank god vanlife is trending less now, vans are getting cheaper and such. Tents and shit still overpriced thanks to port fuckery, politics, and people trying to get next quarter record profits yet again. +--- 2565991 +>>2565988 +Those children are the apotheosis of bushcraft. Your entire knowledge of hiking is from boomers you saw at a trail head. Got it. +--- 2565992 +>>2565991 +>no u +--- 2565994 +>>2565992 +It’s like saying running isn’t a real sport because it doesn’t involve a ball, there isn’t a huge set of rules, you don’t need a ref, and the sport is defined by the 2 mile gun run in your local park. Meanwhile people on forums are getting in touch with other ultramarathoners and people who run 25k’s ever weekend. But your pickup game of basketball is way more hardcore. +--- 2565998 +>>2565988 +people stacking rocks doesn't help anyone, themselves included usually, +everyone chopping down green trees, getting mad when they can't burn the tree right then and there, steal/borrow dried wood and then get drunk/high/fuck, party, throw bottles everywhere and fuck off into the morning light trying to skip paying for fucking up the camp site/location. +thats the first thing most campgrounds/farmers/landowners experience. +then there's the kid/guy/internet wise guy who keeps seeing "how to survive in the wilderness without a tent, tools, anything but a rock, some string/rope/ducktape and your wits" guys who end up wrecking an area, because they didn't want to buy a cheap 20 dollar tent, weather proof it and just throw a cheap camo wrap around it for the season to stealth it, while never thinking that having a fire is easily the fastest way for anyone with a working nose, eyes, ears, and a dog to find them without fail. + +keep an eye out for these, wilderness survival huts, lots of them leave them standing, means you can come back in a week or three in dry weather and have a nice supply of firewood no one else is touching to have your campfires with. + +filter your water, its the second easiest way to get water, first is the old waterpills method(take container, bandana to keep mud out, fill with water, put waterpill/treatment in, shake, wait suggested time, DRINK. +FIlter, more expensive BUT, depending on the type, you get your water NOW and/or after a couple minutes(several gallons gravity filtered NICE for setting up your site and having freshly filtered, cold water) +Just don't forget your salt/sugar/spices and you are golden. +cotton to cool off/stay cool while sweatin. wool for staying warm when cold/somewhat wet. Just don't believe you don't stink. +liners for your sleeping bags equals clean bags after you get your messy ass in them all the time and/or a lighter sleeping bag during hotter nights/days. + +TExT WALLS!! +--- 2566002 +>>2557807 (OP) +Gatekeeping outdoorsmen combined with an American/Euro schism as to what being an outdoorsman means. +--- 2566005 +>>2565994 +Hiking fags have more in common with marathon running fags than they do with actual outdoorsmen. Come to think of it, /fit/ would be a better place for them to post than /out/ +--- 2566008 +>>2566005 +Bushcraft threads belong in /cgl/, or maybe /pw/ because it’s all make beleive. +--- 2566010 +>>2566008 +to you maybe +--- 2566019 +>>2566008 +>anything I don't like is make believe +okay +--- 2566050 +>>2557807 (OP) +Conflict is the nature of the universe, pussy. +--- 2566078 +>>2566002 +Gatekeeping outdoorsmen combined with an American/Euro schism as to what being an outdoorsman means. + +Five minutes later: + +>>2566002 +>Hiking fags have more in common with marathon running fags than they do with actual outdoorsmen + +It’s like pottery! +--- 2566094 +ITT: Everybody hates everybody, no exceptions. +--- 2566196 +>>2566094 +I wouldn't have my /out/ any other way. +--- 2566360 +>>2566094 +This miserable shitbag is right +--- 2567137 +>>2560533 +I'm pretty moderate on all things /out/ related since I've been out in a lot of different places with a lot of different people. + +I go trout fishing in streams for a whole week every summer. I don't wear galoshes or gators I just take my shoes off everytime I cross or wade into a stream. Sometimes I leave them off all day because I mostly fish in cow pastures and the thistles barely tickle through my calluses. + +Do whatever makes sense to you. The friends I go fishing with always wear gators and they think I'm crazy. To each his own. +--- 2567139 +>>2567137 +Before anyone asks I've never had ringworm or injuries, if anything I have more trouble with ingrown toenails when I wear wet shoes or waterproof boots that don't let my feet breath. Your own experience will probably be different than mine, I'm not sharing opinions just facts. +--- 2568086 +>>2557807 (OP) +Frankly, the whole site never recovered from the barrage of shit that started in 2013 and the new owner doesn't care at all. +--- 2568131 +>>2564614 +Disconnect your router and take your meds, schizo +--- 2568139 +every board on 4chan is like this. Also Rogan is a shill and you need to start watching better commentators +--- 2568350 +high test diff --git a/out/2558159.txt b/out/2558159.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..bda90410c5672975281c401faca8d285031bf648 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2558159.txt @@ -0,0 +1,438 @@ +----- +--- 2558159 +Have you ever taken a girl /out/? +--- 2558160 +yeah 2nd date with my current gf was an overnighter +idk if that many girls would accept that in retrospect, but its a very good way to build trust and get an idea of how well u live together +--- 2558161 +>>2558159 (OP) +Yes. My wife and I will get drunk, take charcoal and draw over each others bodies, then dance naked around the fire. +--- 2558164 +>>2558161 +And sex? +--- 2558174 +>>2558159 (OP) +Yeah I used to go hiking with my ex. My current GF does not like the outdoors much and does not mind me going /out/ regularly by myself and I lowkey prefer it this way. I can do whatever I want at my own pace. +--- 2558178 +my ex and I would go hiking regularly, she would have me take photos of her infront of a rock or tree for her instagram, i was never allowed to be in them. she once threw a temper tantrum because we had to cross a muddy creek and she refused to get her shoes muddy +--- 2558185 +>>2558159 (OP) +yes but it implied we wouldn't be able to go as far/as fast as I usually go, so it's a fun experience but shouldn't be done everytime you go /out/ +--- 2558191 +>have fat gf +>actually decent personality +>wants to try hiking +>take her on a short one +>out of breath most of the time and complains here and there but manages to climb to the top +>said she liked the experience in the end (and photos for her profile obviously) + +Considering everything 6/10, will be better if she manages to stop stuffing her mouth with food at every oppprtunity +--- 2558193 +>>2558188 +--- 2558205 +>>2558164 +wtf why would sex a wife? beeing married is like friendzone platinium +--- 2558210 +>>2558164 +Yes, she loves being taken by the fire. We plan on doing a week long trip in the Olympic peninsula in a couple months. +--- 2558211 +>>2558164 +His said his wife, so no. Sex ends after marriage. +--- 2558221 +>>2558159 (OP) +>OP wearing cotton pants right next to a massive water hazard +ngmi +--- 2558224 +>>2558159 (OP) +Mixed results +--- 2558230 +>>2558159 (OP) +My newlywed wife and I have been hiking/kayaking buddies for 8 or 9 years, that is mostly all we do together in our outing times +--- 2558243 +>>2558159 (OP) +Ever? Of course. +Recently? Not really. +In recent years, one of the main reasons I go /out/ is to get AWAY from my wife +--- 2558251 +Yes the gf hates hiking +--- 2558279 +>>2558185 +Excuses. +--- 2558285 +Yes, she just bitched the whole time, it sucked. +--- 2558289 +>>2558159 (OP) +I dated a girl I met on trail. Twice actually. Does that count? Otherwise no. I don't take girls /out/. +--- 2558331 +>>2558159 (OP) +I can't even imagine talking to a woman if she isn't into /out/ as much as I am. Every gf I've had was into backpacking, climbing, camping, nature, etc. I don't care if a chick isn't into fishing and hunting -- I don't expect them to be. If she's anti-hunting that's the end of it. I've turned down some otherwise decent women because they we're anti-hunting. +--- 2558369 +>>2558159 (OP) +Of course, my mom, my cousins, my sister. +--- 2558374 +>>2558174 +>does not much like the outdoors + +Then why date her? +--- 2558407 +>>2558289 +outdoorsy/rural women are the best +--- 2558410 +>>2558331 +the true american dream is to hunt with a wife like her +--- 2558417 +>>2558410 +You just know her ass is as flat as a washboard. Got that hank hill butt. +--- 2558419 +>>2558417 +just accept her supremacy +--- 2558559 +>>2558159 (OP) +Julia? +--- 2558564 +I may be an incel virgin manlet, but the last thing I want when I'm outdoors is the company of other people. +--- 2558835 +Nope. Huge pain in the ass. The tribes of our pre-agricultural ancestors left women back in the cave or at camp except when they were migrating to a new cave or camp. Partly this was due to reproductive math, but just as importantly, women are slow, weak, fragile liabilities. + +These are modern women we're talking about, too, so that's squared. +--- 2558845 +>>2558159 (OP) +Yes, she was all of 5" and mogged me at 30+ miles a day with a heavier pack. +--- 2558849 +>>2558845 +>5" +Based pixie dater +--- 2558853 +>>2558849 +Fuck. +We werent dating at all. +You ever look back and realise how autistic youve just been. +>"You me, going walking next week" +>I say yeah, okay +fuck there were signs. +--- 2558857 +>>2558853 +I want to know more ! +--- 2558860 +>>2558835 +Based. + +Last time a woman tagged along a hike in a group of mine she had a mental breakdown 200m from the summit and did everything possible so none of the rest of the guys would reach it either. +Then all of sudden had coke energy down the mountain so nobody could keep up. + +They do have the physical capabily but some of them don't have the right mindset to get things done right. +--- 2558861 +>>2558860 +What do you mean +That sounds retarded why wouldnt the people just go touch the summit then go back to her if she created a scene that needed attention +--- 2558865 +>>2558861 +At the summit going around the mountain would've been exactly the same distance going back just on the other side with new views and experiences so that's what we would've done. +I believe that was the problem that she couldn't take anymore "uncertainties". +Simply not an explorative mind. +I really doubt the problem was reaching the summit when it was just a few steps more. + +I could be wrong, I mean I look at it logically and she probably wasn't. + +And yeah it was retarded, her husband is a cuck and wouldn't manage her for the rest of us and nobody else felt like meddling in his affair, it would've been hell rest of weekend for him so we thought we did him a favour. + +The point is I agreed with anon they are better left to tend the cave. +--- 2558878 +>>2558853 +>5 feet tall +>likes to go /out/ +For the love of God anon why didn't you breed her immediately +--- 2558965 +>>2558289 +How do you get a girls number/ get to know her from an interaction on a trail? +--- 2558974 +>>2558965 +Point a gun at her. +--- 2558976 +>>2558965 +I just talk to them but never ask women out unless they drool over me and walk after me. Modern women, It's all just so tiering... You are better off alone. Safe for your retirement and property purchase. Don't waste your time, nerves, or resources. Women will chase after you if you are ever good enough. +--- 2559010 +>>2558159 (OP) +>Have you ever taken a girl /out/? +Yes. Often. First time I took my wife canoe camping was the first time she'd not slept within eye or ear sight of a car. It was the happiest I've ever seen her. +--- 2559157 +>>2558374 +It's a win-win for me because I need a few weeks by myself every year and women are kind a pain in the ass when going /out/. When I was still with my ex who enjoyed going /out/ I always ended up going for different routes than I actually wanted to. +--- 2559164 +>>2558374 +Most women don't like the outdoors. It's easier to just accept it. I've dated only one woman that actually wanted to go /out/, the rest think it's a novelty and they aren't interested in doing much more than a simple hike on a short and easy trail. +Like the other anon said, that's okay. It means you get /out/ time to yourself. One thing I make clear to any girl I'm dating is that she doesn't have to accompany me, but I will have my /out/ time. I've had a couple girls break up with me because I was too busy climbing. They think it's a phase or something I guess. +--- 2559165 +Yeah she only comes out in the summer though so I have to go months in between where nobody sucks my willy outdoors +--- 2559185 +>>2559165 +nothing better than hiking with a tanned skin cutie +--- 2559230 +>>2558159 (OP) +I went on a mountain biking date with a girl, it went fine until I mentioned I owned guns. Oh well, she wasn't very good anyways and was a broke-ass. I fucking hate poor women. +--- 2559246 +My court mandated female said she would if she can take edibles before +--- 2559252 +>>2559165 +>>2559185 +That looks suspiciously like a Filipina gf. +--- 2559307 +gf refuses to go camping because she doesn't like the idea of not having a toilet nearby. i'm okay with this though because she still loves golfing and fishing. +--- 2559320 +>>2559185 +You right anon +Apart from when I'm a fucking pasty ginger getting sunburned to shit and she just wants to absorb sun rays but it's worthwhile +>>2559252 +Sand nig gf +--- 2559337 +Never found a woman who can keep up. They're keepers of the hearth, not outdoorsmen +--- 2559341 +>>2558419 +preciate yew +--- 2559364 +>>2559165 +hi again mr japanese-sword-i'll-be-vague-with-the-name how have u been? +--- 2559366 +>>2558159 (OP) +No I don't know how to talk to those +--- 2559368 +>>2558974 +This + +Her body my choice +--- 2559405 +>>2559364 +Decent desu +Haven't shot up any tescos yet +--- 2559408 +>>2558178 +Beta fags piss me off more than roasties. +--- 2559416 +>>2559230 +>be me riding the river trail, see a qt walking her bike +>pull over, Hey looks like you have a flat +>teehee yeah but I'll just walk it home +>Nah, let me sort that out +>fix flat, ride along and start BSing +>Hey, where's your turn? +>lolz we passed it a few miles back +>sheeeeit, wanna ride again? +Wink wink +>Next Saturday we ride up to Folsom lake, I'm wondering if she's going to give it up +>Didnt bring a swimsuit teehee, jumps in wearing a white sports bra +>watch her walk back with nerbs fully shining through +Boinked.png +She turned out to be a waste of time too, but I'll not soon forget those titties +--- 2559417 +>>2559320 +very based +--- 2559471 +>>2558210 +Based. OP is probably one of the prettiest places I've hiked around. You get into the ancient old Hoh rainforest and it's really a spiritual experience anon. If you've never been though prepare for rain. The OP gets like 200" a year. +--- 2559472 +>>2559341 +Man I would cut my balls off to just like the port o john seat she uses after a day in August when all she's had to eat is taco bell +--- 2559604 +>>2558159 (OP) +Take a girl /out/? What are you? Fucking gay? +--- 2559669 +>>2558159 (OP) +>Tinder match +>Hiking tag +>We go hiking innawoods +>She's wearing Doc Martens and leggings +>She's slow as fuck +>Steps into a 2 foot puddle 20 minutes in because she can't judge the depth +>Complains about being cold the whole way + +I brought extra socks just for her since I knew there'd be problems. +--- 2559676 +>>2559669 +>brings extra socks +you must get all the ladies damn +--- 2559678 +>>2559604 +>likes girls +>is gay +>??? +--- 2559772 +>>2558205 +>>2558211 +Christianity is so fucking gay, holy shit +--- 2559846 +Yes I took a girl i was dating out to my fishing pond late night. One thing happened than another and talking looking at stars, than her hands are down my pants. Did the sucky sucky and than the session was loud, surprised no one heard. Walked back to car and driver her home. She was just a friend with benefits, I still miss her but damn don't get pregnant from someone while dating someone else. Dumb whore she was, all you had to say was you wanna suck my nob and she'd get to it. +--- 2559855 +>>2558878 +Undiagnosed Autism/homosexuality probably +--- 2559937 +>>2558210 +what's part of the olympics are you planning on? I'm heading up to to the Low Divide area again this year +--- 2559941 +>>2559676 +you know it +--- 2560070 +>>2558205 +this but unironically +all of my married friends, at best, look forward to their annual birthday handjob +--- 2560197 +>>2560070 +They married the wrong woman then. Plenty of marriages feature at least semi-regular sexy time. +--- 2560456 +>>2558211 +>Sex ends after marriage +imagine unironically believing this +--- 2560459 +>>2560456 +it's true tho +--- 2560486 +>>2560459 +for you maybe lol +--- 2560494 +>>2558159 (OP) +I asked one for hike to local castle ruin, she said she has bad knees. +--- 2560496 +>>2559669 +I would salute you but there are snipers everywhere. +--- 2560584 +>>2558850 +And you're a faggot, your specific reason for asking is because you're a faggot +--- 2560586 +>>2558853 +You missed the joke retard. +--- 2560801 +https://youtu.be/YZsMz7uwbR0 [Embed] +She seems a little retarded, just how I like ‘em +--- 2560802 +>>2558159 (OP) +im in a few hiking groups, and i just gotta say, women are waaay better at distance hiking, but borderline useless at actual camping +--- 2560809 +Went hiking with a girl a few times. It's great, I'm fat but she's small and likes to pick flowers so we go slow. My male friends just walk too fast, I can keep up but it's not enjoyable. +--- 2560810 +>>2560802 +My girlfriend is pretty good with cooking, setting up the tent and cleaning dishes. Sounds like you're going camping with low quality city girls. +--- 2560862 +>>2558159 (OP) +yes and her family is still searching for her +>mfw +--- 2560864 +>>2560802 +>women are good at aimlessly walking from A to B, and suck at something that requires thinking in addition to work +Whodathunkit +--- 2560875 +>>2560864 +>camping requires a lot of thinking +Yes, if your IQ is < 80 +--- 2560990 +>>2560875 +Who said anything about a lot? +--- 2561000 +>>2560990 +Camping doesn't require any more thinking than hiking does. For camping, you need to select an optimal site and for hiking, you need to plan your route and have the navigation skills to get back on course if you lose your way. Camping involves condensation management and staying warm/dry. So does hiking. Setting up and taking down a tent isn't rocket science, as millions of casuals do it every year. Same with preventing critters from getting at your food. Minimal thinking involved there. +--- 2561690 +>>2559772 +the bible literally says that married people should have sex whenever they want. Example. If I want to have sex with my wife when she's not in the mood, she should have sex with me anyway. + +But you don't actually care to understand what the bible says, you'd rather just worship satan. +--- 2561844 +>>2561000 +>trips of womanhood +Women use hiking trails. Show me a woman who hikes off-trail using a route she mapped out beforehand and I'll show you an outlier. +--- 2563270 +>>2559472 +>t. +--- 2563285 +It’s our favorite thing to do. We banged on the top of the north fork, it was nice and now I want to conceive my first child up there +--- 2563289 +>>2560810 +Mine too. She gets right to cooking throwing up the tent etc as I start getting a fire going / wood gathering +--- 2563298 +>>2563285 +You're not from Ohio, are you? I may have run into you before. +--- 2563310 +>>2563298 +Nope but close, Western PA +--- 2565617 +>>2563285 +How did you get over that trail pussy smell? +--- 2566051 +>>2558860 + +Took sister on our usual Dad/Son hunting mission. Got nearly to where we wanted to go and she freaked tf out at the last obstacle. tbf it was a pretty gnarly slip and I was pretty happy not to fry cross it but the thing is because it freaked her out she didn't want to go down the way she came up which had visual exposure to the obstacle but was otherwise safe. She wanted to go directly down the steep slippery tussock slope that would have been extremely dangerous and she would certainly fall in the current state she was in. Took a stern talking to convince her not to walk down the slippery shit that was way more dangerous than the perceived visual danger. This was right after she just froze and stopped moving at all for like 5 mins until I realized she was freaking tf out. Hard work man, then she was smug for the rest of the day because of her decision not to do the dangerous thing and stop us from reaching the cool place, lmao. +--- 2566634 +>>2566051 +Off topic but that reminds me of taking my roomate up Shasta, he had never worn crampons or held an ice axe. The route was steep but conditions were good, but pretty soon after we traversed a snowfield I noticed him getting wide eyed. Then he started really bugging out. +I had to give him the stern talk, got him to keep moving into a small boulder patch where he promptly laid down and fell dead asleep. I laughed, what else could I do. Let him sleep for an hour and he woke up collected, so we retreated. +Summit fail but we got to hang out on a volcano so no big deal. +--- 2566664 +white dudes who don’t have enough friends and expect their wives to be masculinized and share hobbies with them don’t make sense to me +you must be lonely fellas +--- 2566698 +>>2566664 +shut up, boy. it's not wanting a girl to align with you entirely, but wanting to share adventures together. /out/ is not only for men. you wouldn't get it... you fucking grotesque abomination +--- 2566700 +>>2566664 +>brownoid +Opinion discarded +--- 2566701 +>>2565617 +Don't be a pussy and deal with it. +--- 2566711 +>>2561690 +Bible-based anon. kek and correct +--- 2566722 +>>2558161 +Based I've been lovebombing a girl I madeout with cause she posts her drawings on the internet and they look too much like mine so I can read them easily +I can't wait to get to charcoal runes so soon.. +--- 2566784 +>>2561690 +Why do you follow what the Bible says and not the Quran, Talmud or some other bullshit? Hint: it's because your parents told you to, and literally no other reason. +--- 2566808 +>>2566701 +bruh you know it reeks +--- 2566817 +>>2566698 +>wanting to share adventures together +how the fuck do you hit post on something like this and not die of embarrassment +--- 2568198 +bump +--- 2568201 +>>2568198 +Why did the tranny jannies delete all the pictures like this? It's an ancient /out/ meme. +--- 2568202 +>>2568201 +i didn't even realize. hope i don't get banned just for that +But I'm not sure. The /out/ janny has a quick trigger finger on the ban which is good for some things (obliterating frogs) but otherwise can be pretty random and autistic +>inb4 this post gets deleted and i get a global ban for "criticizing moderation staff" +--- 2568207 +>>2566808 +Bruh, you just gotta mentally associate that reek with getting your dick wet. Gives me a Pavlovian boner every time. +--- 2568212 +>>2568207 +Bruh +--- 2568214 +>>2568212 +BRUH. +--- 2568311 +>>2566634 + +Yeah man, I wonder how many people getting lost and dead in the wilderness are just people freaking out and short circuiting. +--- 2568312 +>>2568207 +Damn. I don't even know how to respond to this. It's just filthy. +--- 2568313 +>>2568207 +brrruh are you me? lost my V hiking, and ever since... duuude i im just hardwire for that frfr no cap sheeesh +--- 2568315 +>>2568313 +that stank nasty, it make me soft no cap +--- 2568329 +I'm thinking of getting one of these badboys and becoming a druid of my flat ass marshy land. +--- 2568330 +>>2568329 +kek, wrong thread. +--- 2568476 +>>2568315 +Bruh that's nothing. Childbirth smells exactly like field dressing a deer. +--- 2568516 +>>2558159 (OP) +It has always ended in rape, so I don't do it anymore. It was too much raping and not enough hiking. diff --git a/out/2558770.txt b/out/2558770.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7ba95f7afa29851c7e0d2c7bf17e273d4f22b23e --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2558770.txt @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +----- +--- 2558770 +Why do you go out, /out/? +--- 2558782 +to hike and sketch the back of my thumb. +--- 2558786 +its pretty and quiet compared to the car-ridden urban jungle +--- 2558810 +to sniff stinky sweaty girls +--- 2558826 +>>2558816 +Pretty much this, I lived in Vegas for 6 years and had enough. Married my gf and moved to an /out/ location next to a small town. Everyone is so nice to each other and things are so peaceful here, I see deer on my property almost daily I'm looking at cows in a field off in the distance right now, it's amazing how good life can be without niggers. +--- 2558842 +>>2558770 (OP) +Because I enjoy it. Every time I post this, it makes /out/ seethe uncontrollably. So I'm going to keep posting it. + +>>2558816 +Me too, anon. Me too. +--- 2558966 +>>2558816 +I hate the subhumans too anon. Sometimes you just have to get away from the products of capitalism. +--- 2559006 +>>2558770 (OP) +I just enjoyed nature there’s a weird serenity that I feel when I’m in nature. That I don’t feel in the city. I feel like actually belong there. +--- 2559805 +>>2558770 (OP) +because /in/ sucks +--- 2559900 +>>2558770 (OP) +To shred the mountain +--- 2560400 +Cause I find people, even the morally decent who align with my tism well exhausting. And most people have willingly gone monkey brain anymore. Holy crap just shut up about what you fuck and who you drink and let me do my job! + +Also animals are cute innawoods +--- 2560415 +>>2559006 +It's almost like we didn't evolve in cities or something +--- 2560527 +Because I don't need to be intoxicated or stoned to tolerate life in the outdoors like I do in society +--- 2562034 +>>2558770 (OP) +It's fun +--- 2562037 +>>2558770 (OP) +Mainly to get away from other people for a while. +--- 2562509 +while it's sometimes difficult to get off your ass and get /out/, when you do, you never regret it and crave to get /out/ more often... so let's all fuck off now +--- 2562573 +>>2558770 (OP) +adrenaline addiction +--- 2562577 +Because I already live and work /out/ so it's no hassle. Driving back into civilization is a pain in the arse that I still try and do every couple of years to get Culturally Enriched and catch up with old friends, but it turns out to be a miserable experience every time because of the noise and the squalor and interactions with junkies or feral kids that try to steal or wreck my shit. I stayed /out/ because I like having a small cottage on an acre of land with all the doors and windows open for less than half the price of a fortified shoebox in Little Somalia. I'll gladly fist cows and do physical labour if it means living ~300kms from the nearest pawn shop and welfare office where people have to work for a living or die +--- 2562791 +>>2558770 (OP) +i don't really know i started with hiking with my dog and it completely spiraled out of control into full on alpinism and now i think i'm just curious to see how far i can push my luck +--- 2562855 +>>2558770 (OP) +to get to your mom's house +--- 2562859 +>>2562855 +I'm sorry, the road to OP's mom's house has far too much traffic to be considered /out/. +--- 2562884 +Need another season of cute girls go fishing so bad you don't even know bros +--- 2565437 +>>2558770 (OP) +For our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. +--- 2565460 +>>2558770 (OP) +>Why do you go out +Why, what's wrong with going out? +--- 2566307 +The peace and quiet. Sitting around a fire at night during fall or winter is something that'll never get old +--- 2566991 +>>2558786 +>t. drives his car to wherever /out/ is +--- 2567017 +>>2566991 +Unironically this is why I hate jeep fags. + +I heard a guy once say, “son, let’s go climb that mountain” to his little boy and off they drove on a dirt road in a jeep. + +I only backpack and don’t get steeper than scrambling and that shit is super cringey +--- 2567019 +>>2565460 +Well it's not really a socially acceptable thing, is it? +--- 2567058 +>>2566991 +Should he be walking? +--- 2567059 +>>2567058 +Yes? You aren't /out/ when you're /in/side a vehicle. Is RV camping in a KOA /out/ too now? +--- 2567104 +>>2567059 +Not everyone lives a block away from a national park, anon. I drive to the woods so I can make the most efficient use of my free time. +--- 2567110 +>>2559900 +Checked. I'm so sad the lifts are closed, I'm really contemplating buying a splitboard. diff --git a/out/2559072.txt b/out/2559072.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..29612ab9d3b5352af13863eb5c519c73bf63ccd5 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2559072.txt @@ -0,0 +1,153 @@ +----- +--- 2559072 +Someone says "Fish" +Post what first comes to your mind +>bigmouth bass +--- 2559084 +>>2559072 (OP) +There's a fishing general thread, bub. Take your bass over there. +--- 2559091 +>>2559084 +Generals are for Q&A. This is intended to be a game +--- 2559093 +>>2559072 (OP) +Oh, in that case, largemouth bass. +--- 2559114 +>freshwater +Pike +>ocean +Mackerel +--- 2559146 +>>2559072 (OP) +>grandpa's boat +--- 2559196 +>>2559072 (OP) +>FISH +...y vagina +Don't ask why...... +--- 2559207 +>>2559114 +Mackerel hive mind +--- 2559211 +>>2559196 +my mom wants you to come over to pick up your yugioh cards. says you been ignoring calls and texts. +--- 2559213 +>>2559072 (OP) +--- 2559215 +>>2559207 +Herring and anchovies are also up there +--- 2559240 +>>2559146 +Good answer +--- 2559241 +>>2559072 (OP) +greetings from /ck/ +--- 2559243 +The fish boomerang guy from The Muppets +--- 2559249 +>>2559240 +I'm so glad my dad kept that boat after his dad passed. Hoping it'll take three generations of our family fishing together once again this summer. +--- 2559250 +>>2559249 +unfathomably based +--- 2559253 +>>2559249 +Sounds great anon +--- 2559282 +>>2559241 +looks tasty +--- 2559440 +Catfish, because I just caught my first one of the year +--- 2559484 +>>2559072 (OP) +Rainbow Trout or Sculpins +--- 2559496 +>>2559072 (OP) +>Someone says "Fish" +>Post what first comes to your mind +fish +--- 2559573 +>>2559484 +Booger lookin mf +--- 2559631 +>>2559072 (OP) +Pacu. +--- 2559688 +>>2559072 (OP) +the beautiful river trout. Easily the prettiest and best tasting fish where I live. They also inhabit pretty places only, which makes catching them a pleasure. +--- 2559917 +>>2559084 +I see what you did there +--- 2559920 +Hello from >>>/g/ +--- 2559958 +>>>/mu/ sends its regards +--- 2559999 +>>2559072 (OP) +Mahi + +My best fishing memories are going out with my dad and catching these big 5-head motherfuckers. +--- 2560072 +>>2559072 (OP) +trout +--- 2560484 +>freshwater +black bream + +>saltwater +tailor +--- 2560485 +Murray Cod. +--- 2560572 +>>2559072 (OP) +Trout, or whatever this is called in English. Not me in pic, but we got a similar sized one on a field trip with a biology course +--- 2561492 +>>2559072 (OP) +--- 2561500 +>>2559072 (OP) + +Rainbow Trout and Kokanee Salmon +--- 2561596 +Pike and it's not even close. +--- 2561979 +Salmon +--- 2561983 +>>2561500 +Hello fellow Sierra Chad. +--- 2561986 +>>2559072 (OP) +First thing that comes to mind is how to effectively slaughter and bleed them and that I want more tools in my toolkit for butchering them. +I want to extract the utmost life-force out of their flesh so I just looked up the ike-jime method. +The realization that they suffer from poor treatment and suffocation and their flesh has been proven to taste worse by many others in such cases fills me with excitement in learning new ways to kill and butcher them. +--- 2561993 +>>2561986 +That's an odd hobby +--- 2561995 +>>2561993 +That's just a minor hobby. +Since I'm good at butchering stuff everyone started coming to me when they did their fishing and I'm just getting good at fish too now. +There's only so much the flesh quality can be raised with proper butchering and cutting out pristine filéts, there's ways to kill and bleed them that also improves the quality even more so I had to start fishing too so I can kill them myself. +--- 2562078 +>>2561500 +>im a patagonia wearing fag +--- 2562193 +>>2560572 +That is a monkfish/anglerfish +--- 2563853 +>>2559072 (OP) +Rainbow trout +--- 2564788 +>>2559072 (OP) +Snapper +--- 2564802 +>>2559072 (OP) +--- 2566304 +picrel pikerel +--- 2566503 +>>2559072 (OP) +kut asf but should stay in water +--- 2566528 +>>2559072 (OP) +bluegill +--- 2567124 +>no yellow perch diff --git a/out/2559226.txt b/out/2559226.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..666a398273d873db499fccd52eedf7715cdf613a --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2559226.txt @@ -0,0 +1,496 @@ +----- +--- 2559231 +>>2559226 (OP) + +>picrel +based and comfy as fuck +--- 2559233 +>>2559231 +I heard that Columbia's shoes are comfy but aren't durable. +--- 2559235 +>>2559233 +I've had them for maybe a month, so I couldn't say long term. But they seem pretty hardy to me, no problems thus far. +--- 2559255 +>>2559226 (OP) +depends on what I am doing. +--- 2559258 +>>2559226 (OP) +These for everyday stuff, can recommend. Not the best when carrying a lot. +--- 2559263 +alot of things. do you need a bootguide or what? +--- 2559287 +>>2559263 +Reccomend a hiking boot for NW Montana summers with moderate autism styling. +--- 2559291 +Mah timbs + +Hunting, hiking, larping, going to work, this guy does it all +--- 2559295 +Hanwag + +10 years, resoled once +Icelandic winters, Swedish summers... Love this boot. +--- 2559298 +I want to get minimal/barefoot shoes. Any opinions about vivobarefoot brand? +--- 2559310 +>>2559287 +By summer I assume you mean hiking season from April to October and Mountains from June to September. +Most high quality boots sold in the US have goretex inside. That's not something you want for summer hiking, not even in Montana. +Try to find one with full leather inside and out for the summer. Your feet will be drier and won't stink. With goretex inside you have to change socks 3 times a day in summer, and you'll have fungal infections within a few weeks of hiking. I wouldn't recommend a mix of fabric/leather on the outside of the boot for Montana weather either because it'll just wet through much quicker than full leather. + +This is actually a nice boot for summer >>2559295 +https://www.hanwag.com/us/en-us/men/trekking/tatra-ii +if you get the leather version. +A (girl)friend of mine wore this boot for more than an entire year straight backpacking the world. Unfortunately it doesn't fit me otherwise I would have loved it too. The stiffness of this boot is at the upper end of normal (mountain) hiking boots but not too stiff or not as stiff as hunting/autumn boots. It also breaks in nicely and gets more flexible. + +If you like more stiffness and a more solid feel this is a boot you can also use in autumn in the mountains when there's already snow and in the field when its very wet, and during mild winters: +https://www.hanwag.com/us/en-us/men/trekking/yukon-wide +as well as in the summer because it doesn't have goretex. Its just a little overkill maybe on regular touristy hiking trails. I had the Hanwag Alaska for a long time - great boot for cooler wet weather - which is basically the same just with goretex. +--- 2559317 +>>2559310 +Thank (you) anon. +--- 2559327 +>>2559298 +Not very durable. Do you want to get a fancy shoe for river crossings? +--- 2559335 +Army boots +--- 2559336 +>>2559226 (OP) +Mid-height sprayway boots from Decathlon. It's not exactly rough terrain around here, and they work great for rain-slicked streets too. +--- 2559343 +Barefoot when temperature is nice outiside. Takes about 2 weeks or so after winter to build up calluses agian and then you're good to go. +--- 2559357 +>>2559346 +Suomibro? +--- 2559360 +>>2559226 (OP) +crocs. i stopped wearing anything else +--- 2559367 +>>2559360 +Based +--- 2559371 +>>2559226 (OP) +My fucked up rat boots +--- 2559372 +Not my collection but if you don't have a boot like this you're ngmi. +--- 2559377 +>>2559357 +veljeni +hyvät kengät on +--- 2559383 +Merrill Moabs, usually the high top version. +--- 2560346 +>>2559231 +>>2559233 +I have them for 2 years. I wear them everyday, and yes, they are comfy. +--- 2560354 +>>2559298 +I've ground the outsole on my geo racers completely flat and they are still going strong. +I think it's a quality shoe, through I've heard their customer service is a bit shit outside of europe. +--- 2560356 +>>2559263 +Ive seen this youtube video +--- 2560361 +>>2559226 (OP) +--- 2560449 +Terraventure 3's. +--- 2560450 +>>2560449 +--- 2561028 +>>2559226 (OP) +Basic bitch army infantry boots. I wear them to work (construction) and wear them on the trail. They've got a lot of time on them and arent showing any signs of falling apart anytime soon. +--- 2561248 +If I take out the rigid plastic """arch support""" insoles from pic related because they fuck up the tendons in the arches of my feet, and replace them with softer insoles from old New Balance 680s, is it going to have any consequences other than comfier feet and avoiding tendinopathy? +--- 2561429 +Currently using the Altberg tabbing mk3's, had them for a week ish. Very big fan so far, the new sole/form is a bit to get used to, I find myself heel striking a lot more with these, but overall its everything I wanted: +>tall +>light +>leather +>brown +>complete connection with tongue +>non Gore-tex/membrane +>good fit/great sole. +--- 2561488 +Merrell Moabs are my go-to. I sometimes wear Oboz, Nord Trail mids, and some old LL Bean elkskins for snow and mud. + +The Nord Trail Mt Washingtons are pretty damn nice for $50. +--- 2561507 +I've been using a pair of Irish Setter 867 Trailblazers for the past decade. Was my first pair of good boots, really like them and they stood up to a lot. + +Been looking recently at getting a pair of Altberg Tethera boots, pic related. Anyone had any experience with them? +--- 2561544 +Merrels but as soon as these give our im getting a nice pair of danners +--- 2561577 +Is Timberland a decent brand? +--- 2561862 +Youcan sometimes get them check from military surplus in Germany. Pretty stiff, able to take clip crampons +--- 2561870 +>>2559258 +>>2561862 +Meindl are amazing. I wonder why they're not popular outside of Europe. +--- 2562486 +Does anyone know what shoes are these? +--- 2562608 +>>2559226 (OP) + +Picrel is Mil-tec 5 inchers. Yeah, i know theyre made in china but they really last and are comfy as fuck. Just got my second pair in 3 years. +--- 2562645 +>>2562608 +>Mil-tec 5 inch +> they really last +How many miles do you have on them? +No membrane? +I'm looking for weekender summer boot like this. +--- 2562665 +>>2559226 (OP) +La Sportiva Pyramid GTX +--- 2562745 +>>2562486 +Those look like Merrell moab 2 low to me. +--- 2562786 +>>2562745 +hahaha +what a faggot +--- 2562798 +>>2562786 +bot reply +--- 2562815 +>>2559287 +Like other anon said, you want your feet to breathe. I have lived and hiked in NW MT. Summers get VERY dry and can be quite hot even in Glacier National Park. There is not much humidity and rainfalls can be few and far between. Bring bear spray. +--- 2562883 +>>2562645 + +Well i was wearing them on hikes(probably 50-70 hikes approx. 15-20km each), daily to work for 2 years and using them as work boots during tire flip seasons(for 2 seasons). They were pretty much all i wore because of how comfortable they were. In the end they got pretty scuffed and when i got them soaking wet the sides ripped open so i had to order new ones. I've tried the same type and twice as expensive from Icepeak, but they had issues after the second month already(seams tore, glued front opened from expansion in the snow etc.) so i went back to these. +--- 2562899 +I just ordered some Keen Targhee 2 mids. I’m coming from a pair of BTFO Ozark Trails. Doesn’t seem like many /out/laws wear Keen. Did I screw up? +--- 2563079 +Friendly reminder that if you're buying $$$ fabric boots for /out/ instead of full leather outer, you're getting scammed. +2-5 year durability cycles are NOT normal. +--- 2563083 +>>2563079 +its a non issue now that hiking boots use 500 mile lifespan eva midsoles and 1000-2000 mile lifespan pu midsoles. if you're fucking the uppers up on hiking boots before the midsole's shot you're fucking up. +>2-5 year durability cycles are NOT normal. +yeah it is. old school leather midsoled hiking and logging boots last about the same amount of time before needing a resole as rubber/foam midsole boots last. the only difference is you re-used the upper a few times before also discarding it with old boots, while with modern boots the entire boot gets replaced. +the idea boots are not consumable can only come from one of two places: +- rpg dungeons and diablos dice rolling fantasy elf games +- you fell for all that lumbersexual mens americana revival fashion marketing back in 2015 and still haven't realized it +footwear has always been a consumable especially to travelers of long distances. if you've ever felt like its not its because you don't walk enough. +--- 2563086 +>>2562645 +keen & merell sell boots similar to that if you want something to compare to +get a PU sole if you want lifespan, it comes at the cost of comfort +--- 2563087 +>>2561577 +--- 2563089 +>>2559287 +merell moab ventilators, deal with them being cheap and disposable they're the best hot weather boot. +really consider just getting a shoe or runner for summers. gaiters exist. +--- 2563122 +>>2562883 +I will try them on. + +>>2563086 +Keens all have waterproof membranes. What about Merrell's? Its say "waterproof" on all boots but few mention membranes ... What's the deal here? +I want to avoid boots with waterproof membranes. + +Boot will be used largely in summer for casual hiking, section hiking long distance trails, forest, daily all-day wear in hot weather. +--- 2563128 +>>2563089 +>merell moab ventilators +boot? how on earth do you justify calling that a boot? +--- 2563131 +>>2563128 +the mid not the low there's two versions. +they're technically a mid but just about every modern hiking boot doesn't go up high enough to offer any more ankle support than it anyways. +--- 2563138 +>>2563122 +most boots have membranes because 99.95% of people wear runners, shoes, or moab ventilator mids at most when its hot out. boots and the kind of weather that's for are kind of counter intuitive with one another. +i'm not saying don't do it or anything, just explaining why most boots only come with a membrane. +are you trying to find a WATERPROOF boot with no membrane? that's a lot harder. +if not, just buy a non waterproof ventilated boot. salomon, merell etc. get a pair of goretex socks with them to extend their usage. done and done. +>What about Merrell's? Its say "waterproof" on all boots but few mention membranes +they sell all their boots with or without the membrane +--- 2563141 +>>2561028 +Based and Masochist-pilled. I have some of the old sand coloreds as bug-out storage. I made the mistake of using two pairs at work in a machine shop, they've lasted 3 years but the rubber soles are starting to give under all that chemical juicyness. And metal shavings galore. Not gonna feel too bad when they finally die, no more army crap for me. For hiking I have a nice pair of moabs but like this anon>>2563131 is saying it's only a mid. +--- 2563149 +>>2563131 +I see. Still I'd just use my trailrunners or regular cheap running shoes instead of something like this. + +>Boot will be used largely in summer for casual hiking, section hiking long distance trails, forest, daily all-day wear in hot weather. +I want to replace my Quest 4Ds. I'm looking for something like the Salmon Quest 4D without the membrane and a healthier flatter (flatter feeling) insole/midsole. Quest 4D gave me issues with my upper tendons and the joints of my toes. It would also be great to have a non-slipping outsole. + +Quest 4D Pros: +- Boot height is perfect (I don't need the ankle support, just the height) +- Runnable +- Weight is just right +- Keeps dirt, sticks, and water out to an acceptable degree for a 2-season boot. + +Quest 4D Cons: +- Sweat and Stink. Becomes unusable after 5 days of hiking and bivouacing in summer. Feet constantly wet from sweat. Change socks 3 to 5 times a day. Fungal smell etc. +- Midsole isn't flat enough for a healthy fit. There are bumps on the midsole/insole you can feel inside the boot. If I ever want an orthopedic fit I'll do it myself with a custom insole. +- Issues with upper foot tendons and toe joints +- Sole is slipping on wet ground +- Too expensive +--- 2563159 +>>2563138 +I think its just marketing, reddit philosophy, and fashion. + +I only accept goretex boots in autumn/winter: November to March. +From April-October I'm using full leather boots or cheap running shoes. I'm looking for something in-between without membrane. + +>are you trying to find a WATERPROOF boot with no membrane? that's a lot harder. +No, I already have full leather boots. I just want something smaller looking, more casual for hiking in more civilized areas and trails. "waterproof" does not matter. +--- 2563301 +>>2563159 +really just sounds like you want something like moab vents thats pretty much what they are. +--- 2563325 +>>2563301 +They sound and look good, but they are not high enough. I need the height for protection against vegetation. +My extended weekend hikes switch from touristy hiking trails to off-trail woodlands with undergrowth alot. Up until now I've just been using my regular gtx mountain boots but its getting too hot and the tourists are coming. I don't want to look too out of place with the reddit people. +--- 2563357 +>>2559226 (OP) +Decided to try pic related last year instead of my leather hiking boots. Never going back. +--- 2563373 +>>2563301 +>>2563325 +Something like pic rel is better vs vegetation. +--- 2563419 +Can I use cheap asics on multiday trails this summer? I carry about 30 pounds and its mostly forest trails, agriculture roads, some paved roads. +What would be the downsides? +--- 2563437 +>>2563325 +>I need the height for protection against vegetation. +you're creating a problem that doesn't exist again, that's why nobody makes a boot for you +google image search 'hiking gaiters' +as i said earlier there's no real functional difference between the mid height and the low cut of modern hiking boots like the example you posted. neither one supports or protects your ankle, both designs are too low cut to offer any profection. the mid cut is more gaiter compatible and my current hiking boots are the exact same shape as these >>2563373 and still require gaiters to keep vegitation out. the only tangible benefit from the inch of height is slightly better load bearing with heavy packs on hills. if you want an aesthetic or look that's fine but you're just going to make your life harder. +but yeah if mid ventilators don't do it for you just look at salomon's non membrane boots. they have the cut you want. +--- 2563443 +>>2563437 +Its not about keeping vegetation out. I use my pants for that. Its about not scuffing my ankles on dead wood, logs, branches, brambles, maybe rocks sometimes. +I usually wear high leather boots for that but found the height of the salmon quest 4d is perfect to protect the ankle off trail. + +Which Salmon boot are you talking about? They all have goretex afaik. +--- 2563497 +>>2563083 +You killed him Gilbert +--- 2563510 +Thoughts? They're like halfway between a trail runner and a boot + +Like £55, seems cheap. +--- 2563513 +>>2563510 +Does it fit? +And +Why this "boot"? +Also +Goretex +--- 2563525 +>>2563357 +>dyslexic Norteno creeps up on you in the woods +Aye holmes, your zapatos say u a scrapa, ese +--- 2563569 +>>2559226 (OP) +This + +I don't believe in those boots desu, its a psyop for you to make sheckels for ""them"" + +I like to be in my confy shoes all the time no matter what and actualy feel where I am steping in + +in my experience those boots are awfull for balance and your ankles +--- 2563597 +>>2563083 +Replacing the sole is cheaper than replacing the whole boot +Fabric memetex boots are also more likely to fail on you early. +The whole scheme is a joke designed to sell you 300 dollar shoes like hotpockets +--- 2563604 +I got these milsurp boots from my uncle when he left the national gaurd and I've been using them ever since. Pic was taken 3 years ago, the bottoms have barely started to rub off and they're still holding up +--- 2563619 +>>2559226 (OP) +--- 2563765 +WHITIN Minimalist Trail Runner; I can never return to normal shoes after using them for a while. Any other barefoot shoes I should invest in? +--- 2563766 +>>2563765 +Forgot to include a picture of the shoes. +--- 2563778 +>>2563765 + +Belleville tactical research minimil. + +They're so freaking good. I stiffened up and waterproofed the side walls with shoe goo and have replaced the shit insole with a decent hard foam orthotic. Have hammered mine on multiple week long hunting trips, awesome and feels safe in gnarly shit. I also carry 2x ankle braces for If I'm tired out or have to go into real bad terrain but I don't really have to use em. +--- 2563859 +>>2563765 +this shit sound waaaay better than those boots + +Idk why boots became so popular ngl, never liked them, they're cluncky af +--- 2564012 +Belleville master race +--- 2564014 +>>2563778 +My nigger knows +--- 2564053 +>>2559226 (OP) +I usually stick with water proof pilot boots from the US army they keep my ankles nice and tight. Only issue is they're a bit heavy but i like them easy to take care of and easy to move in even though they're a bit heavy. +--- 2564190 +I got a pair of 6 in Red Wing King Toe boots, and they are simply the best modern boot. I got them with a soft toe, which I recommend getting, unless you really need the protection. I might get a pair of all leather boots in the future, but I'm completely satisfied with these. Red Wing also does free, lifetime (your lifetime) cleaning and conditioning and resoles. You can get them cleaned and conditioned as much as you want. +For those who have bought 100% leather boots, do you recommend Red Wings, or should I order online from some boutique manufacturer? I'm kind of hesitant because I just send them my size, and they send me the boots; I don't get to try them on. +--- 2564197 +>>2564190 +>boutique +Um sweetie. They're called boot salesmen +--- 2564260 +>>2564197 +No. I am not talking about who you buy boots from. I'm talking about a particular segment of a market. Boutique is a term used to refer to businesses that deal with discerning customers who have a willingness to pay higher prices for a better quality product and often times a more personalized experience. In the world of finance, for instance, a boutique asset management firm will feature quality advisors, a separately managed account, the option to pick your investments (including ethical investing), and high levels of customer access. In boots, boutique means the option to choose chrome tanned vs. veg tanned leather, species, color, tread, speed hooks vs. eyelets, etc. +Now, do you get it, sweetie? +--- 2564266 +Can someone explain to this retard why hiking boots have so much padding in them? They all look like skate shoes from the 2000s. +--- 2564268 +>>2564266 +To prevent your feet from hurting +--- 2564281 +>>2564260 +>autism completely misses the joke +Boutique sounds like boot. Try not to overthing it +--- 2564304 +Those are for summer. +--- 2564309 +Those are for autumn and winter. +--- 2564319 +>>2564190 +>Red Wing also does free, lifetime (your lifetime) cleaning and conditioning and resoles +No they don't. You pay for resoles. +--- 2564320 +And I have a pair of those for easy summer hiking and mountain trails up to T4. +--- 2564461 +How do you tell the right size for hiking shoes? How much space should there be at the front of the shoe? + +It always says 1 finger width, but that's not easy to determine from outside the shoe. +--- 2564494 +>>2564461 +Experience is the only way you can tell. Ask someone to help you in person and hope for the best. +--- 2564514 +I got a pair of heavy boots for bulldozing through the shit, now I need a pair of light/lighter shoes/boots for summer and easy trails. should I fuck with pic related or just get a trail runner? +--- 2564523 +>>2564514 +personal preference, but where you live and the climate affect the balance of that decision. namely runners would be favored if you live in a high rainfall area. +i'm not a fan of minimalistic boots because they make a lot of them without a midsole and with zero drop (eww) but oboz are one of the good ones. +--- 2564525 +>>2564523 +it's usually droughty here so I was leaning towards runners for the lighter weight and breathability. think some light boots would be better? +--- 2565467 +I'm looking for a pair of boots that is good for the pnw, I want something pretty durable and with good support for when I'm carrying a decent amount of gear. I had considered going with nicks or whites or one of the other pnw legacy brands but they seem to mostly have absurdly large heel drops. I'm not looking for much in the way of insulation, as in the colder months I plan to wear thicker/warmer socks, and I plan to get a separate pair of boots for the actual winter unless I find that I'm comfortable with the warmer socks in my main boot. + +The #1 feature I've grown to hate on boots is hooks for lacing. I would really appreciate finding a pair that doesn't have them, as I've had multiple times in various jobs and while out camping where they've gotten bent or fucked up in some sort of way and as you bend them back they just get shittier and weaker. +--- 2565619 +>>2565467 +What's wrong with normal hiking boots? +Hard to tell what you want. Just get a hunting boot from crispy, hanwag, lowa, etc. if you want an allrounder that can do pretty much anything. + +Any cobbler can replace hooks for <$10. +--- 2565651 +I've been wearing these 6" Kodiak McKinney for about 3 years, a lot of my activities involve mud so I opted for a waterproof option. The bottom is starting to wear though. +--- 2565666 +>>2559226 (OP) +lowa. worked when i was in country. works on the trail in snow or rain. simple as. +--- 2565669 +>>2559226 (OP) +the sarma alpina recon, they chew my feet up but im not done breaking them in +--- 2565794 +When do shoes usually go on sale? +need new shoes for both work and hike + +My sketchers are stating to fall apart slowly +--- 2565797 +>>2565619 +I do like some of the lowa offerings, I just wish that gore tex wasn't such a huge part of the lineup. Hanwag only has hooks from what I see so they're out, same with crispi. + +Yeah a cobbler can replace hooks I suppose I could just bring them to a cobbler to have them replaced with loops before I use them, frankly just seems like a waste. + +I don't love gore Tex because it never works as well as I'd hope and just holds moisture in my boot, but it kinda looks like I'll just have to accept that it's gonna be a feature that's on any boot I get. +--- 2565810 +>>2559226 (OP) +I just wear whatever boot I've been wearing to work at that point. I figure its better to have a known comfortable broken in work boot that's a bit heavier, than save a few pounds and open up the possibility of hot spots or blisters and discomfort. Just ordered a new pair of work boots from a local boutique shop (JK Boots) so we'll see how those guys do hiking when they finish making them. +--- 2565848 +>>2565797 +Not sure what's available in the US but in Europe you can get leather-lined boots from all these companies. +--- 2565905 +>>2559226 (OP) +those exact kathmandu boots, and they're great. only thing is the sole inserts it comes with are absolute dogshit. replaced them with some good work boot soles, and they're perfect. +--- 2565929 +>>2565848 +They mostly seem to all have leather and gore Tex. I will probably either settle or talk to a local/custom brand about what I want but I'm not much interested in ponying up like $600+ on a pair of boots. +--- 2566069 +>>2559295 +>10 years, resoled once +how do you resole something that isn't stitched +--- 2566074 +>>2559226 (OP) +What pants are those? They look nice. +--- 2566085 +>>2562899 +keen is a fine brand +--- 2566086 +>>2563122 +>2563122 +not sure about merrel or other brands but for columbia --> OUTDRY is the waterproof membrane +if it says waterproof without the OUTDRY it is just waterproof with no memrane +--- 2566089 +>>2563419 +if you're carrying a pack, aren't you afraid of rolling your ankle wearing lows like this? +--- 2566093 +>>2566089 +I'm not overweight. +I wear boots for their stiffness and ease of walking on terrain, not necessary on trails. +--- 2566097 +>>2566093 +don't need to be overweight to roll your ankle you dummy +--- 2566134 +>>2563373 +>>2564320 +I bought lowa boots not long ago from a recommendation on here +First piece gear I've bought that wasn't the cheapest shit I could find, and god damn they have been so nice. +I wear em daily now +Only thing I've ran into so far, is they aren't super insulating, but I assume a better boot would be suited for the cold +--- 2566483 +Nicks Overlanders +best boot plastic lovers BTFO +--- 2566548 +Lowa Renegade GTX mid, I don't know what the consensus is on those but they served me well enough so far. I'd take recommendations if anons have any to give, I mainly go /out/ on the mountain I live on, sometimes higher than 2000m so above the tree line +--- 2566576 +>>2566483 +Those are overpriced /fa/ instagram shoes, and not hiking boots you massive dolt. +--- 2566577 +Hanwag Alaska GTX +I love those boots to death. To be honest, I wear them wherever I go, which is fucking stupid, but they´re just so fucking comfortable. + +Anybody else wear their expensive hiking boots everywhere they go, instead of just /out/? +--- 2566582 +light boot +--- 2566587 +>>2566576 +Loser can’t afford them we get it +--- 2566588 +For daily and weekly hikes I use the most durable boots. Good for training your calfs and tibialis. +--- 2566599 +>>2566588 +Forgot to link boot porn moving pictures: +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtpAA0N2VbE [Embed] +happy fapping +--- 2566604 +>>2566587 +Consoomer faggot +--- 2566662 +>>2559291 +Yah timbos are durable and longlasting generally +--- 2566665 +I usually do Solomon trail runners. They’re so light and have done well across 4 summers of Rocky Mountain abuse. I’m trying some shit I found on clearance at REI this summer, $80 isn’t too bad if I can get a season or two hiking out of them. +--- 2566668 +>>2566665 +So close I am a faggot +--- 2566669 +Summer foorwear +--- 2566942 +>>2566604 +You probably look like this, faggot. +--- 2567115 +Anybody have any experience with the Jim Green African Rangers? Been hearing good things about them, and they seem like a good step up from the pair of Timberland hikers I got from Marshall’s a couple years ago. diff --git a/out/2559673.txt b/out/2559673.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b59e2ac5f0bac4e3ac1b433ee59725ff02545d12 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2559673.txt @@ -0,0 +1,140 @@ +----- +--- 2559673 +Jump to the 20:00 mark + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5yRyW67MB0 [Embed] +--- 2559698 +>>2559673 (OP) +what's especially manly about this? he's hiding in a tree throwing a spear, might as well shoot it with a gun at that point. +--- 2559703 +>>2559673 (OP) +I fucking hate these videos. Guys in their mid-life crisis sitting in a tree until they can drop a sharp object on an animal, then strutting around like they're the reincarnation of the first caveman to take a mammoth down with his teeth. Lame shit. +--- 2559833 +>>2559673 (OP) +let me guess, you spear it then have to find it and shoot it with a 700express ultramagnum revolver +--- 2559863 +>>2559698 +It’s a 900lb bear and if he missed and pissed it off it would maul him to death + +>>2559703 +I was impressed. I feel the risk reward was something else +--- 2559881 +It would be one thing if a dude speared a bear by himself and didn't film it or brag about it. But this cunt filmed it, bragged about it, and is making money by bragging about it on jewtube. Where I'm from that's called a "douche". +--- 2559887 +>>2559863 +>throw spear at bear +>it looks up and can't see shit because the dude is hiding like a queer in a tree nest +>bear probably assumes a stick fell or something and goes back to whatever it was doing, but if spots strange animal in tree it most likely just runs away +spearing bears like this isn't higher risk reward than shooting it, considering it would likely just run the fuck away from either scenario, the only difference is he can put that he "speared" it and the bear suffers more than a gunshot. + +when I someone says they "speared a grizzly bear", the first thing that comes to mind for me is a fucking melee fight, not hiding like a faggot in a treehouse throwing spears at bears distracted by bait +--- 2560134 +>>2559887 +Lets see your grizzly bear kills + +>>2559881 +the jews own everything, how naive are you, fucking grow up +--- 2560202 +>>2560134 +Can't tell if you're shitposting or if you're a ((biden voter)). Please post again when you're sober. +--- 2560348 +>>2559887 +>humans evolve the rarest hunting strategy on the planet +>you're not allowed to use it because it's not manly according to obese neckbeards on the internet +--- 2560352 +>>2559673 (OP) +pussy +--- 2560358 +>>2560348 +Did he knap a spear point or smelt native copper and hammer it into a spear point? No. Did he climb a tree and stand on a branch, and maybe use a hide rope for a lifeline? No. Now even if he did these things he's still a compleate shithead for posting it on the internet. I respect people who hunt dangerous game in a way that gives the animal a solid chance and isn't done for "like and subscribe". +--- 2560373 +i'd say it's a little more gutsy to go in the middle of the everglades barefoot and spear a feral hog (can't find the vid it used to be on yt) +anyways i'd like to try eating grizzly bear, i wonder what their steaks taste like +--- 2560392 +>>2559673 (OP) +guy is a complete pussy, could of killed the bear as painlessly as possible but had to use a spear from a treehouse like a 5 year old +--- 2560526 +>>2559673 (OP) +Might as well just drop a bomb on it and the bear would have the exact same chance. +--- 2560697 +>>2560358 +He didn't post it or have a channel. Some other guy did + +>>2560392 +>>2560373 +I support any dangerous interaction with animals so that I can watch for my viewing pleasure. Never had anything scary happen to me with an animal, kind of want it to happen. All these animals are fucking pussies I wanna kill a bear with a knife or have a wolf try to eat me or something +--- 2560700 +>>2560697 +>I support any dangerous interaction with animals so that I can watch for my viewing pleasure. Never had anything scary happen to me with an animal, kind of want it to happen. All these animals are fucking pussies I wanna kill a bear with a knife or have a wolf try to eat me or something +that's the spirit +>The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. +--- 2560741 +>>2559698 +>>2559703 +>>2559881 +>>2560352 +>>2560358 +>>2560392 +you do not hunt +you eat dinosaur-shaped chicken nuggets from horrific factory farms, and talk about "manhood" and "fairness" +kill yourself +--- 2560758 +>>2560741 +been vegan for years, healthier than i was when i ate meat, go /out/ more and feel a better connection to nature when i do. that guy is not a symbol of manhood, he is a pussy, there is no need to hunt like that. that is an incredibly inefficient way to hunt an animal. + +imagine being pathetic enough to defend this +--- 2560778 +>>2560758 +what you think you feel is no concern of ours lol cry more tranny +--- 2560787 +>>2560758 +>been vegan for years, healthier than i was when i ate meat +post physique lmao +--- 2560828 +>>2560778 +keep trying to find that 'essential american soul' one cock at a time fag. since we are quoting d.h. lawrence, here is some good others from your favourite writer: + +"I should like to know why nearly every man that approaches greatness tends to homosexuality, whether he admits it or not...." + + "I believe the nearest I've come to perfect love was with a young coal-miner when I was about 16." + +go back to /lgbt/ + +>>2560787 +not posting my average/normal body, this isn't /fit/. i was unhealthy when i ate meat and now i eat healthier, not a far fetched concept at all +--- 2560843 +>>2560758 +the connection is in your mind gaylord +think about all the death and destruction your annual grains cause and all the habitats and soil that were ruined to feed your faggot ass +sanctimonious stupid nigger +--- 2560854 +>>2559673 (OP) +Imagine being such a pussy you need a spear to kill a grizzly... +--- 2561457 +This video is way more impressive, and it's always more informative. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUiPmHA7Xqg [Embed] +--- 2562793 +>>2559673 (OP) +You're doing it wrong +--- 2564466 +>>2560758 +Ur dumb +--- 2564554 +>>2559863 +>>2560741 +lol wut +he's sitting over a pile of donuts +--- 2564556 +>>2559673 (OP) +Fag shit, killing animals for no reason, let them be, destroying nature is dumb af +--- 2564557 +>>2560828 +kek bullshit tranny confirmed +--- 2564741 +>>2560854 +--- 2567313 +>>2559673 (OP) +spears are for people, not bears +--- 2567347 +Doesn't feel right killing a bear diff --git a/out/2559921.txt b/out/2559921.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..05ee0528d3265ce6bfe1088db2f266c47de6a899 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2559921.txt @@ -0,0 +1,297 @@ +----- +--- 2559921 +The North Cascades National Park bills itself as the "Alps of America". Do American anons really? +--- 2559925 +>>2559921 (OP) +Yes the north cascades are the closest thing to the alps in the lower 48. +--- 2559929 +>>2559921 (OP) +I don't know +What characteristics define the original Alps +--- 2559931 +pretty unanimously the north cascades, most of the 49th parallel ranges are alp-esque from the pacific to montana. +--- 2559935 +They're way more rugged than the alps and there is way less civilization and they're much more beautiful so the Alps are actually the Cascades of Europe instead of vice versa. +--- 2559977 +>>2559935 +But the real Alps are massive in scale compared to the cascades. Mt. Blanc from Lake Geneva is a sight you would expect to see in the Himalayas, but its in the Alps. +--- 2559995 +>>2559921 (OP) +Alaska is several orders of magnitude better than the sun total of euroshit land. +--- 2559996 +I like the Cascades +--- 2560192 +>>2559925 +Leavenworth is full +no space left in Washington +kindly fuckoff +--- 2560193 +>>2559929 +the matterhorn +--- 2560196 +>>2560192 +Sure, just as soon as you go back to California. +--- 2560209 +>>2559921 (OP) +What makes an Alp an Alp? +--- 2560223 +>>2559929 +Rugged peaks covered in glaciers +--- 2560229 +>>2559929 +Being super steep +--- 2560233 +>>2560223 +>>2560229 +sounds like the Tetons to me +--- 2560246 +>>2560233 +Tetons don't have many glaciers left, also a fairly small range. +--- 2560250 +>>2560196 +you have to be 18 to posy here. +--- 2560252 +>>2559921 (OP) +So somebody said something? No way. +--- 2560254 +>don't have many +>splitting hairs +but they do have glaciers, are stuper steep with rugged peaks. seem to fit the definition pretty well. +--- 2560255 +>>2559921 (OP) +The Palisades, and the high peaks in the JMT portion of the PCT. +--- 2560257 +>>2560254 +But the north cascades fit it better +--- 2560264 +>>2559977 +the cascades have a few mountains like that, rainier, baker, and hood are all massive mountains. mt blanc and rainier are 11th and 21st in the entire world for their prominence respectively. +--- 2560292 +>>2560192 +Just live in Wenatchee and mine crypto. +Leavenworth kind of sucks for "living" compared to "visiting" anyway. There are two roads in the entire town that actually go anywhere. One of which is the Chumstick Highway. +--- 2560357 +>>2559977 +this. Mt. Blanc, at 4,000m is more similar in scale to an 8000m peak than a 4,400m peak in the Cascades +--- 2560359 +>>2560357 +*sorry 4800m +--- 2560388 +>>2560264 +Funny how there's no replies from the eurotards on this one +--- 2560391 +>>2560388 +Mountains? Those are volcanos. Volcanos that might erupt in the next 10-10,000 years. For what its worth they are massive and interesting to look at, but the Alps are larger in scale horizontally, the Mt. Blanc massif is wider and built like a wall compared to the conical shape of a volcano. +--- 2560394 +>>2559929 +Very deep valleys (some what true in the cascades), prominent stone massifs and peaks (Not really true in the cascades except 1 or 2 mountains) and a "lush" theme to them with lots of snow on the mountains and a vibrant feel to the greenery. Mostly true for both. +--- 2560399 +>>2560391 +>volcanoes +>not mountains +Retard +--- 2560401 +>>2559921 (OP) +If you include all of North America as "America" then I would say the Canadian Rockies near Banff, Alberta +--- 2560402 +>>2560394 +How about dem Rockies? +--- 2560404 +>>2560401 +>>2560402 +The Canadian Rockies are superior to the Alps. + +If you include all of North America than the Alps are completely mogged by things like the St Elias range and Alaska range. +--- 2560410 +>>2560401 +Don't forget Baffin Island. +--- 2560424 +>>2560357 +What does that even mean? +>this 4000m peak is actually more like 8000m +--- 2560432 +>>2560424 +Standard Eurocope +--- 2560434 +>>2560391 +i measured this, and giving mt blanc a very generous measurement it came out to ~40km in a generally NE direction. Mt Rainier is about 25km wide from all directions conically. A 15km difference in a single direction is obviously much bigger, but Rainier is in general a much more massive piece of rock, with similar glaciation and a much more dangerous environment overall due to the volcanism. +--- 2560437 +>>2560424 +Vertical prominence. A 1000 meter peak rising directly from sea level, like say an island, has more vertical prominence than a 500 meter peak that rises from land that is elevated even if the latter peak is higher. +--- 2560462 +>>2560292 +Okanogan is superior But you’ll never move here since rednecks and ndns frighten and confuse you. +--- 2560470 +>>2560424 +Sarcasm, obviously +--- 2560471 +>>2560437 +M8 the cascades are near the coast +--- 2560825 +>>2560471 +>St Elias range +Still, most of them are 8K to 9K tall if that. Thats a prominence comparable to the Colorado Front Range, not the Alps. I guess what I'm talking about here is "Jut", the overall vertical reel of the stone face. Here's the mountain with the #1 jut worldwide, Annapurna Fang. +--- 2560877 +Why do people argue about shit that is objectively calculable? Some peaks have more prominence, some peaks have more glaciation, some peaks have harder ascents. Then subjectively you have different preferences on where to live/visit/talk shit. You guys don’t even go outside if you’re arguing about this +--- 2560878 +>>2560825 +>I guess what I'm talking about here is "Jut" +Oh god, please don't tell me the "Jut" spammer from Reddit's mountaineering sub has found his way to /out/ +--- 2560912 +>>2560877 +Because human beings like to sort and rank thing. Or maybe I just have autism. +--- 2561458 +>>2559935 +>so the Alps are actually the Cascades of Europe instead of vice versa. +you wish +--- 2561497 +>>2561458 +They are within 2 degrees of each other in longitude, so they get pretty much the same sun and are also somewhat close to the ocean. +--- 2561728 +>>2560462 +Honestly I moved to Arizona in 2015 and I don't really see myself living anywhere in Washington again because I don't feel like moving again. But living in Leavenworth was kind of a pain in the ass. Less of a pain in the ass than living in Bellevue but still a pain in the ass. +--- 2561985 +>>2560462 +How's the job market out in Okanogan? +--- 2562001 +>>2561985 +not him but i have family in methow and once the snow starts to melt the farm jobs start popping up and the fruit warehouse jobs open up +--- 2562004 +>>2560292 +>mine crypto +kek +it's so cringey I just can't +--- 2562016 +>live in NJ and will never be a mountaineer + +I wish my fucking parents would've moved to colorado. Holy fuck. +--- 2562017 +>>2562016 +That is not colorado? +--- 2562031 +>>2562016 +id kick that silly frog so damn hard +--- 2562035 +>>2562016 +It's overrated. If you've seen one mountainous vista you've seen them all. Backcountry skiing is more worthwhile if you're into type A fun. +--- 2562036 +>>2562031 +>>2562035 +I just want to run away from my life and climb mountains every day desu +--- 2562039 +>>2562035 +i was doing that today, nothing gets your heart racing more when a slab is starting to form and you still have a mile downhill to go +--- 2562041 +>>2562036 +Then just do it. Go be a dirtbag. +--- 2562052 +>>2562036 +Live with the parents and save up all of your money for a year or two. +--- 2562088 +A bit dryer and not nearly as broad, but the Wind River Range gives me similar vibes. +--- 2562133 +>>2559935 +Of course there's that one faggot thinking mountains are a competition. +--- 2562298 +>>2559921 (OP) +The Cascades are the Cascades. The Alps are the Alps. Every mountain range has its own individual character and experiences to offer. There is no wrong answer to what your favorite mountain range is as it often comes down to personal experience, your own taste in aesthetics, and familiarity. +Personally, I found the Alps to be gorgeous, but I prefer the rugged wilderness of the Sierra Nevada myself. +--- 2562551 +>>2562133 +nice dubs but there are faggots ITT saying volcanos aren't mountains for the sake of their own argument, anon was just making a simple comparison between two similar slopes. +--- 2562702 +>>2562298 +lol ok fag +--- 2562735 +>>2559921 (OP) +Sorry our mountains aren't up to your standards, anon; we'll get to work on making some new ones. +--- 2563384 +>>2562298 +I've lived on both continents and it just depends on what you want to get out of it. I also prefer the wilderness and lack of infrastructure in north america, the Alps are nice to look at and the valleys and mountain towns are very idyllic to me. +--- 2563453 +the pacific northwest plus alaska is the best hiking in the world hands down +--- 2564967 +>>2559995 +Putting others down is the sport of self-haters. +--- 2564985 +>>2559921 (OP) +Canadian Rockies. Sorry bois. + +>>2560877 +Its not even about peaks. Just about freedom and mastery of the environment. +--- 2564988 +>>2563453 +What do you mean by hiking? American hiking is a far different experience than everywhere else on the world. Smooth clean trails. Pair of running shoes. Its kind of boring desu. +--- 2564990 +>>2564988 +Plenty of bushwhacking to be had, but it gets pretty tiresome over long distances. +--- 2565003 +>>2564988 +Lol wut +--- 2565026 +>>2564990 +Sure, bushwacking sucks when you have to go through willows and so on. +What I don't like is hiking trails like pic rel. The whole trail looks like this. It looks like a park ranger goes over the trail with a broom and then a spatula to even out the bumps. +I want terrain that few people walk on, barely visible animal trails, unmarked, pathless, open terrain or forest, pitch your tent anywhere, no ranger strangers. +If I can't get that I'm just going to put on a pair of trailrunners and run the whole thing, and call my mom to pick me up when it gets dark. I like trailrunning too, but it's a different thing. Camping and hiking is just not the real thing when its too civilized or supervised. +--- 2565063 +>>2560192 +Leavenworth is not the North Cascades +--- 2565238 +>>2565026 +just admit that the only places you've been here are near crowded parking lots. +--- 2565244 +>>2565026 +>It looks like a park ranger goes over the trail with a broom and then a spatula +hey they have to earn every one of those 20k bucks they make a year +--- 2565266 +>>2564988 +>American hiking is a far different experience than everywhere else on the world. Smooth clean trails. Pair of running shoes. Its kind of boring desu. +lol. you either havent been or need to get out more. +--- 2565267 +>>2565266 +he's right tho +--- 2565277 +>>2565267 +you're either him, or you also need to go out more. it's an unfathombly stupid assertion. +--- 2565278 +>>2565267 +about what? about being so fucking autistic that hiking on a well maintained trail causes him to sperg out? I agree with that. But trails like pic related are a tiny minority of trails that i have experienced in the Western US and only the most high profile, well used trails are like that...there are 1000s of miles of all sorts of trails in a wide variety of conditions, terrain and degree of maintenence and suggesting trails like the one in the pic are the norm and not the exception is retarded. +--- 2565279 +>>2565277 +>>2565278 +samefag +--- 2565280 +>>2565279 +not an answer or factual. try again. +--- 2565297 +>>2562088 +This is a lie. The Wind River range doesn't exist. Don't try to go visit. +--- 2565453 +>>2565279 +>surely only one person would make fun of my retarded post +--- 2565468 +>>2565026 +Did you even read the post to which you replied? A very tiny percentage of wild areas are covered in trails. +--- 2565475 +>>2564988 +>American +what part of america have you been to? america is a very big place, maybe you came to the wrong part. +the west coast is actually one of the only places in the world with old growth 'real' forests left. +to have the same experience overseas you have to go to siberia, the amazon rainforest, se asia's jungles, central africa etc. +>>2565026 +that section of trail is going to maintain itself from foot traffic. there's no large trees or anything around it to put organics in the soil, which is what makes it get all fucked up and muddy. some trail is pretty low maintenance especially if there's no equestrian or vehicles on it. +--- 2565477 +>>2564988 +>American hiking is a far different experience than everywhere else on the world +fax +come check out the yukon / northwest territories there are not many trails or roads either +--- 2565478 +most of the injun reserves have no trails +--- 2566409 +>>2565266 +most europoors don't comprehend how massive the USA is or the fact that two states have more forest and mountains than all of europe combined. +--- 2566562 +>>2559977 + +Seems like a sight you would expect to see from Geneva. diff --git a/out/2559930.txt b/out/2559930.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3f3430ec672a96290d63769e013dd5a038dda982 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2559930.txt @@ -0,0 +1,39 @@ +----- +--- 2559930 +>most of the trail runs along private farmland or highways crawling with 18 wheelers +>1/3rd is water +>the trail will simply run out in many places since no initiative has ever been taken to finish it due to the impossible ambitions and monetary requirements +>bike paths +>random unconnected section way up on Baffin Island +what the fuck were they thinking? seriously, how do you fuck up making a cross Canada trail this badly? +--- 2559954 +Let's see yours then +--- 2560566 +I hope Terry Fox rises from the dead to peg you to death with his prosthetic leg. + +Whiny shitposts are the worst. +--- 2560931 +>3 deleted posts +mods let this thread die already +--- 2562425 +Haven't something like 18,035 people completed this trail? It's not a huge secret or anything. +--- 2563287 +>>2559930 (OP) +anyone know who the adventurer that crossed canada by dog sled, started out in kaktovik alaska and planned to make it to the atlantic ocean, but along the way he was forced to shoot a polar bear attacking his hut, and the canadian natives wanted to prosecute him, he ended up deleting his youtube channel and disappeared off the internet. i think he was from norway, time period was sometime between 2006-2012, had long hair, medium build, in his late 30's early 40s +--- 2563331 +I live in Southeast Alaska and it looks like it goes from Whitehorse to Beaver Creek then goes up and stays into Canada. I don't remember a road from Beaver Creek going up like that. This would be very creepy during large animal calving season because I always see Grizzly Bears. +--- 2565197 +>>2559930 (OP) +>>most of the trail runs along private farmland or highways crawling with 18 wheelers +HAHA aint that the truth. even in south western bc it is not that walkable +--- 2567990 +Goodlord that is gnarly. +--- 2568001 +>trans +ok +>canada +haha +>trail +lul +--- 2568288 +I've done the tiny section that runs through my area. It's actually pretty nice in some parts but definitely very mixed. I went through private logging land, rural water infrastructure service roads, plus some relatively pristine park sections. All in all I liked it and really enjoyed being able to just buckle down and walk a long ways without thinking too hard. Really gets a guy in the zone diff --git a/out/2560038.txt b/out/2560038.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a8f6802d1d102d892aa47838c4987b4613fb626b --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2560038.txt @@ -0,0 +1,356 @@ +----- +--- 2560038 +I know there is at six other people on this board with $4,300 +--- 2560042 +That looks like a barren desert. Is there ground water available? Otherwise you're gonna be stuck trucking in water and that's expensive. Codyslab is in Colorado and they have to buy water to raise their cattle. +--- 2560044 +btw this looks boring asf what will do there rocket science? +--- 2560048 +>>2560044 +Realistically the only productive use of such land is ranching, but you need water for that. I suppose you could try goats instead of cattle to minimize water cost but goat meat has a much lower demand in America. +--- 2560050 +>>2560038 (OP) +Never heard "it's cheap for a reason", huh? +--- 2560051 +>>2560044 +Drive 10 minutes to the mountain range and thousands of acres of national forest land? +>>2560048 +What’s with you guys and thinking you need to build some kind of self sufficient farm there? +Honestly I would just build a barn to store some toys for hunting and recreation, with a loft for sleeping, and treat it like a cheap vacation house and use it as a jumping off point for trips around the state. +Trailering/driving a jeep on 37’s for over 10 hours sucks, so it would be great to leave it there all summer and have basically a free hotel room. +Renting out the loft as a cheap air b&b a dozen weekends a year would pay the taxes and little water needed for showers and drinking +--- 2560052 +>>2560051 +>Renting out the loft as a cheap air b&b +Not a bad idea. With a good gimmick and the right marketing you might do well with this. Maybe put up a movie-set style "old west town" and make a Westworld experience? +--- 2560053 +Where? +--- 2560054 +>>2560052 +Idk about that, the point would be a simple and cheap place where a family can sleep and eat at for a night or two while they travel the state enjoying nature, or a weekend base camp for hunters with a nice area to come back and butcher their game. +Trying to build out some form of entertainment there on the property would be counter productive +--- 2560063 +>>2560038 (OP) +Where's the trees? The rivers? The proper meat? +--- 2560081 +bet you could do better in Moffat County +--- 2560098 +>>2560038 (OP) +What exactly are going to do with 30 acres steppe? Graze 3 cows? +--- 2560102 +>>2560048 +Ranching if* the water is readily accessible and cheap. And by readily accessible I mean able to be irrigated with a ditch and not high pressure water equipment, because that would hike the cost. Given that this is a 35 acre lot with no cattle already on it, it's probably safe to assume it's not feasible. +--- 2560107 +>>2560098 +OP implied it would be split into 5 acre lots +--- 2560111 +>>2560107 +What are you going to do with five acres of steppe? Graze three goats? +--- 2560121 +>>2560038 (OP) +Probably would at least be $60k to install power, septic and a well. Jannies would report you if you're living there without septic. +--- 2560266 +>>2560042 +He's in Utah. His family's ranch is actually just 30 minutes from my house +--- 2560338 +>>2560121 +>Jannies would report you if you're living there without septic. +Is this the gayest shit on the planet? I had some faggot report my house to the city board because I didn't have flood vents on my bottom floor in an area that floods. They should've told me who the fuck did it so I could give his house a fucking inspection. Ass licking queer. +--- 2560366 +>>2560111 +Build a barn to store stuff with a loft for sleeping and eating. +Treat it as a base for hunting or vacations, and rent the loft out a dozen weekends a year to pay the taxes and water. +--- 2560368 +>>2560121 +Septic is like 7k and solar isn’t much more. +Don’t need a well if you aren’t living there permanently or raising livestock. +--- 2560474 +Taking my post from the other 1000 dollar an acre thread. land is cheap for a reason, mainly because its pretty much impossible to live there off grid. + +I've done the math on this and am actively planning to live the /out/ escapist LARP. 600,000 USD is the number. You're going to pay way more 1000 an acre for land that you can homestead with. Way more. + +40 acres of land thats a combo of trees, water, flatland for buildings above floodzones, and grazing pasture. Acquired for 320,000 in 2020. It has a cabin, well, outhouse and I've added makeshift solar. Eventually I'll need to build roads in, build a barn, and build some kind of 4 season structure with real bathrooms, septic, a real solar battery setup or run grid power to it. That shit adds up very quickly. + +Good news, land and home prices are going to drop like a rock in the coming months so if you've been saving your sheckles you'll have an opportunity coming up. +--- 2560483 +>>2560051 +This works and is a great plan until the first crackhead breaks in and steals all your stuff. Then it goes from 100% quality thinking to 100% shit idea in the span of a day. + +Leaving stuff alone in the desert is tough. If you had tree cover it'd be a different story, but anyone will be able to spot and monitor your pad from miles away. +--- 2560509 +>>2560483 +This risk would be offset by the 35 acre property being split with six others who also come and go as they please, meaning the area would most likely be occupied by at least one person for the majority of the time. +I think regular traffic to the area, coupled with the remoteness of it would make for extremely low risk of such a thing. +You’re right if it was just one person on that whole 35 acres tho, it would be dumb to leave too much stuff there year round. +--- 2560516 +>>2560038 (OP) +and there's ~1000 people that visit this board every day with half a million dollars to spend for fun. It's an absolute shithole with no prospects +>>2560042 +>Colarado +Yikes +--- 2560608 +>>2560483 +>This works and is a great plan until the first crackhead breaks in and steals all your stuff + +the crackhead that you can spot 10 miles out +--- 2560797 +>>2560038 (OP) +I inherited close to a million and a half when my mom's cousin, who I helped build heli skiing Resort in British Columbia died. So now I'm going to pay off my house and possibly by the next door one so I can put duplexes on the back and ride the property train to 5 million dollars +--- 2560852 +>>2560038 (OP) +Where in the fuck is that, Alamosa? +--- 2560861 +>>2560038 (OP) +Map coords would be useful. Looks like a river behind it in pic. Problem is that road doesnt connect to the property. Is there access to the property? +--- 2560868 +>>2560038 (OP) +aint a god damn thing on that 35 acres of dust and probably nuclear waste that makes it worth more than .5 acres of old mixed forest in a temperate or tropic zone +--- 2560871 +>>2560050 +1k an acre isn't cheap. +--- 2560874 +>>2560871 +$1k and acre is super cheap. Have you never heard that you should never build on land less valuable than the structure you’re building? +--- 2560887 +>>2560338 +fuckers do this because they are selfish fucks thinking theres a minor chance you will just fuck off and move away leaving them to be the only person in the area. super common in recreational cabins in canada. some youtuber got in some massive legal battle with his neighbor about some petty ass shit like this. this society is full of neurotic boomer fucks that slave away their entire life for shit like this and when they realize its just not going be them alone in paradise they have a spastic fit and start finding ways to drive people out. +--- 2560896 +>>2560852 +Probably in the valley somewhere. Aka tweekerland. Nope.avi op +--- 2560906 +>>2560608 +Crackheads roam, it's part of what makes them a pestilence. +--- 2560909 +>>2560042 +hes in utah and they have rainwater collection +--- 2560918 +>>2560038 (OP) +>splitting it between 6 other people + +Hell I'm one of most poor people alive. +But I've been saving money for like 15+ years. +I got at least 15,000. +So I want 51%. + +Now all we need is some people to work on +Farm food +Water pipe system +Wood/stone house building +electric wires for electricity +solar panels/wind turbines (electric windmill) for power. +A filter sysyem for the water. +Transportation routes to other cities +Such as roads, or plane landing spots. +Some people to manage deals with other cities where we trade food? for other junk? +I guess we could breed sheep for cotten, and cows for meat and leather. And other animals for resources. +Other stuff? + +Now you might say since I own 51% I should do all that. +But screw you, I will sit on my ass and eat and drink all the time. +I'll be the top 1% spoiled guy, and people can hate me for it. +Living the dream. + +But you guys can vote on town name. +--- 2561006 +>>2560874 +>Have you never heard that you should never build on land less valuable than the structure you’re building? + +not sure if sarcastic or stupid. i'd guess 99% of all dwelling in the US violate this. +--- 2561215 +OP please use the MGTOW general for these southern colorado land deals + +>>2543832 → +--- 2561224 +>>2560608 +>you WILL remain completely vigilant with your head on a swivel 24/7/365 + +nah, they'd wait til they see there's no cars, lights out, or otherwise strike at the strangest time of night. if you lived out in the boonies you'd understand that's how they operate. + +>>2560038 (OP) +but OP, that land is utterly useless. having more of it does nothing for you. might as well get an equally useless, but smaller plot of land that you can afford yourself. +--- 2561226 +>>2560874 +>first plot of land: 59k +>house construction costs: 128k +>site dev/well: 55k +>final valuation: ~650ish + +i think you might have misinterpreted what that adage was trying to say anon. +--- 2561244 +>>2561226 +that math dont work +--- 2561262 +>>2561244 +Worked pretty well for me. +--- 2561277 +>>2560038 (OP) +read this Anon +--- 2561280 +>>2560038 (OP) +You know what's crazy to me, is how government uses Satellites and shit, to see if people are living on free open land. +And then send cars with rangers/officials to charge money or move the people. + +But I just want to live in the open land, miles away from towns for free. +What happened to land of the free? +--- 2561281 +>>2560038 (OP) +Ive been there its just trailers and weed growers and dust. You get what you oay for +--- 2561297 +Already been done. https://coloradosun.com/2022/02/08/black-hammer-utopia-norwood-colorado/ +>A Black separatist group’s utopian dream for land near Telluride withered after an armed standoff +>The Black Hammer group had $100,000 and a real estate contract for 40 acres where they planned a settlement free of cops, COVID and white people +--- 2561300 +>>2561297 +>segregation is okay when we do it +can this clown world bullshit die off already? fucks sake. +--- 2561302 +>>2561300 +whoops, forgot pic +--- 2561324 +>>2560038 (OP) +Sorry anon. I'm staying in Pennsylvania where I have claim since my paternal line were founders +--- 2561342 +>>2561277 +thanks +https://oceanofpdf.com/authors/ted-conover/pdf-epub-cheap-land-colorado-off-gridders-at-americas-edge-download/ +--- 2561373 +>>2561224 +>might as well get an equally useless, but smaller plot of land that you can afford yourself. +I would if I could find this kind of scrub land sold in 5 acre or smaller plots. +Everything that’s like 3 acres is closer to cities and actually more expensive than the full 35 acres of scrub +--- 2561375 +>>2561215 +I don’t wanna start a community, I don’t wanna try to homestead scrub land, and I don’t wanna live there year round. +What I really want is 3-5 acres of cheap scrubland to put a barn on and use as a base for hunting and camping trips around the state. +--- 2561443 +>>2561280 +>And then send cars with rangers/officials to charge money +this has never once happened +--- 2561513 +>>2560797 +What's your mortgage rate? Is it fixed? Why do you want to pay off your house? +--- 2561567 +>>2561443 +Or planes. +To charge money OR move the people. + +Prove to me, a video of a person living on open usa land 24 hour vids for 365 days for free. +And not just a 1 hour video someone made in backyard. +And i'll give you my uncashed winning lotto ticket (worth about 1 million) i've been holding for years. + +You litterally can't. +Hell, if you wanted to prove it (which you won't) you could just go yourself and live on open land for free, and make 6-12 hour vids with your phone everyday. But you would only last about a week before gov officials come get you. +And they would force you to either go back home, or go into a homeless shelter the nearest city has. +If what you were saying was true, everyone would live free. +But no one does. +And there is no proof or evidence that anyone does. +If you gonna say bigfoot exsists or shit, show some proof. +The burden of proof is on you. + +I too like pretending we have freedom though. +--- 2561573 +>>2561567 +And by charge money, i mean force them to work for the state or in jail, or find their relatives and charge them, if they have no money. + +Here's cop arresting free man, who is "homeless". Just for lying down on side of walking street. + +Or what i mean to say is, as you can see, there is no cop here, and people are allowed to live free. +But it sure looks like a cop... +--- 2561581 +>>2561297 + +There are some real gems in this story. + +>Crowdfunding grifting +>Posted elaborate state-of-the-art proposals, only built an unfinished footbridge over a ditch +>"Special high altitude farming technique" +>Block local public roads with cars, claim it's "our land" +>Threaten an innocent local with guns when he asks them to clear the road for others +>Start driving around with vests and assault rifles +>Didn't finalize the land purchase, moved in and started building anyway, get evicted for trespassing +>Vandalize the land and signage with bullet holes and litter on the way out, out of spite +>Get so mind-broken by the failure that they publicly ally with right wing ideological enemies over vaccines + +The only thing this story is missing is a description of the food, sleeping, and toilet arrangements for the brief time they were out there. +--- 2561625 +>>2561581 +>recalled Black Hammer activists arguing Anne Frank didn’t deserve sympathy because she would have become a European colonizer — an oppressor — had she survived the Holocaust. That argument later caused a firestorm on Twitter and became a signature Black Hammer talking point. Before they arrived in Beaver Pines, the activists tweeted they would stay warm in their mountain colony by burning copies of Anne Frank’s diary. +I believe that would be what the niggers call "based" +--- 2561681 +>>2561573 +why wont you take your meds allen? +--- 2561701 +>>2560918 +>I guess we could breed sheep for cotten +I prefer growing cotton for wool desu +--- 2561770 +>>2561701 +I meant wool, but said cotten. + +Come on, you know what I meant. + +But sheep just eat grass and shit. And wool and cotten are pretty simular. +I would say you could do either one, but why not both? +Only one gives you lamb chops though. And fun pets. +But maybe I thought of cotten, cause that's good too. +Wool + cotten. + +But you can be mayor of cotten in our new town if you want. +You gonna do cotten candy too? +--- 2563684 +>>2561581 +>>2561625 +this is amazing +--- 2565672 +bunp +--- 2566671 +>>2560038 (OP) +half of the nation's land is unoccupied +--- 2566689 +>>2560038 (OP) +always wanted to set up a dirt race track in the middle of nowhere like this +--- 2566696 +>>2561770 +*cotton +--- 2567118 +>>2560038 (OP) +how do people even think about living in a treeless flat barren, would crush my soul to live there +Literally cowardly dog show tier setting +--- 2567119 +>>2560483 +>crackheads will journey out to the middle of no where, 10 miles off a dirt road, ignore EVERY other abandoned barn and house along the way, and invade anon's grassy barren for reasons. +--- 2567126 +>>2567119 +Yes, that's exactly right. If all targets have equal opportunity of being easy as fuck why would you not take the greatest looking prize? Are you retarded? +--- 2567129 +>>2567126 +yes obviously, thats why all desert cabins hispters bought have been raided by crackheads, since they spawn out of nowhere hundereds of miles away from the nearest dealer, and shelter. +--- 2567135 +>>2567129 +Bro, rural theft is absolutely a thing. The more remote and vacant, the better. + +Not necessarily crackheads, but yeah having a pole barn in the middle no where will attract thieves like you wouldn’t believe. +--- 2567148 +>>2567135 +Yes rural theft exists, but they exist in yuppie playgrounds, they don't even have to be close to the city, just an area well known for outdoor activities and places where lots of people go. +A barren colorado steppe isn't going to start spawning in crackheads or thieves because one anon makes a pole barn, because they weren't there do begin with to know that someone new comes in, they're either in the city, or live in yuppie infested campgrounds and cottage lands. +--- 2567151 +There is stuff like that in my state. No water, you probably couldn't get the rights in my state to collect water on the property. Lets say you could either get the right to collect water, or you think that you could have water delivered. Well to get it delivered you need a very large water tank installed, and the property is not fenced in. Theoretically some of these properties could be used to ranch, but the initial investment to make it at all reasonable is huge. Also these places are usually a few hours from a decent sized city, so you either need to do a long commute to do your cattle ranching or spend hundreds of thousands to build a nearby house. + +People can turn some of these properties into ranches, but the investment is pretty big. The fact that someone hasn't already done it means there is probably better properties to do this with or the return on turning the place into a ranch is low. +--- 2567174 +>>2567148 +Well try it and find out. I think you’d be surprised at the “if you build it they will come” adage being true in this context. +--- 2567222 +>>2567118 +>Literally cowardly dog show tier setting +kek +--- 2567257 +>>2567129 +You really are retarded. "Desert cabin hipsters" don't live seasonally in their hipster cabins, they're almost always there full time or know someone nearby that is and can keep an eye on things. So if you think you can just drop a pole barn with clean fresh paint in the middle of nowhere and just put up a fake ass CCTV camera and signs around you're fucking asking for it to happen to you. +>barren colorado steppe +If you're referring to the San Luis Valley you're worse than I thought, that place is absolutely inhabited and it's inhabitants aren't cut from the same bitchmade cloth you are. Please try, fucking please. +--- 2567319 +>>2560038 (OP) +>cucked colorado gun laws +naw no thanks nigga diff --git a/out/2560076.txt b/out/2560076.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c6495295f1d6c7a33281e3436efd63d8909b9f02 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2560076.txt @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +----- +--- 2560076 +Give your dogs names as well as new names. +This is pumpkin. She’s a corgi Aussie mix. +--- 2560077 +Also just got this pup. No confirmed name, any ideas? Believed to be a collie lab mix but time will tell. +--- 2560085 +>>2560077 +Bingo was his name-o. +--- 2560097 +>>2560076 (OP) +Elizabeth the 1/2 +--- 2560116 +>>2560077 +Been around a lot of dogs -- looks like a collie and lab mix to me. +--- 2560139 +His name is Boo. We took him in when he continued to visit our garden and eventually just refused to leave. Not sure about the bread. +--- 2560322 +>>2560116 +This is fantastic news. Exactly what I hoped for. +--- 2560428 +>>2560077 +BussyHunter +--- 2560444 +dubs and his name is nigger +--- 2560534 +>>2560444 + +NIGGERMAN! +--- 2561048 +>>2560077 +Spencer +--- 2561133 +>>2560076 (OP) +ginny <3 +--- 2561205 +>>2560139 +So weird, like a shibe but photo edited +--- 2561236 +>>2560076 (OP) +Senator Borkenstein +--- 2561275 +>>2560076 (OP) +Captain Handsome +--- 2561677 +>>2560077 +Buster +--- 2561744 +>>2560077 +piss fingers +--- 2561778 +Don't currently have one but I've had dogs named Pilot, Rio, Baylee, Duke, and Buddie. Duke was an absolute unit, but would roll over and give up even to smaller dogs when roughhousing +--- 2561820 +His name is Summit +--- 2561923 +>>2561778 +Gerald +--- 2561928 +finn, the horrible asshole. +--- 2561966 +>>2561778 +Is that a dog or a cow +What a meat tank +--- 2561971 +This is my new puppy Bear. 5 month old mini Aussie. +--- 2562518 +>>2560077 +Bubba Jellyroll. +--- 2562523 +her name is sammy but we call her choca +--- 2562528 +>>2562523 +Sweet. +--- 2562535 +people who own dogs are emotionally stunted simpletons. +--- 2562589 +Im thinking of getting a second dog and naming her daisy +--- 2563502 +>>2560077 +What sex? +--- 2563676 +>>2562535 +ok retard +--- 2564481 +>>2560077 +Claus (with a K) if male +Katarina (with a C) if female +--- 2565674 +This is Rusty. He is the best boy. +--- 2566121 +Dalton my Australian Shepherd. + +I’d go with Gareth/Gaz. +--- 2566150 +this is rikku +--- 2566871 +Meet Joe, showed up on the farm one foggy morning had to only be 4 months old. + +Any guesses on his breed?? +--- 2567291 +>>2561820 +summit is a cute name I'm gonna name my next dog that +--- 2568007 +Peep had an unfortunate encounter +--- 2568014 +>>2560076 (OP) +quick backstory +i am not allowed dogs in my apartment, even though i own it, because of """noise""" +but ... BUT i am allowed birds, no specification, i GENUINELY considered getting some chickens and a rooster, as under the law, only hoofed and clawed animals are prohibited withing city liits, like cows, sheep etc. + +but there is NOTHINg prohibiting birds, initially i considered getting 2 macaws, but they live for so long, even i wasnt petty enough + +yes this is my unhinged rant about figuring out how to make a lot more noise then a dog for the smallest most stupid reason. +1 rooster 3 hens? +--- 2568331 +Moby Dick +--- 2568398 +>>2566871 +Bernese mountain dog. Have fun with them anon they’re awesome dogs. diff --git a/out/2560183.txt b/out/2560183.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ea970b40da583f35287551e4d385285bf8b3c5c7 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2560183.txt @@ -0,0 +1,225 @@ +----- +--- 2560183 +/out/ I need some help. + +Working towards self sufficiency and decided to get some chickens, got everything together and bought a 10 pack of chicks from Tractor supply as well as a coop. To keep it short tractor supply fucked up my coop order and today when I went to fix it they fucked it up again and accidentally sent me 10 more chicks. + +The original coop I had planned won't house 20 chickens comfortably so I have no clue what to do. Any DIY coop plans or prebuilt coops for 20 chickens would be appreciated, or any other ideas of what to do with them. Don't think I could bring myself to kill them but I might be able to stomach giving some away. +--- 2560199 +Kill them and eat them. +>Don't think I could bring myself to kill them +Well, too bad. That's "self sufficiency" for you. +--- 2560203 +>>2560183 (OP) +Chicken math strikes again +--- 2560211 +>>2560183 (OP) +They only lay productively for a few years and they can live for more than a decade. What's your plan for that? +--- 2560213 +>>2560199 +I wouldn't want to kill a laying hen, they're all prolific egg laying breeds. If I were to kill and eat any of them it'd be after they're past their prime. But these are just baby chicks, It'd feel like a waste to raise some egg layers from chicks just to slaughter them and eat em. +--- 2560216 +>>2560211 +If they stopped laying significantly I think it'd be possible to stomach culling them. I just can't bring myself to raise them and kill them as they are now since they're just babies. +--- 2560242 +>>2560183 (OP) +craigslist or whatever, number of free chicks. someone will +--- 2560243 +>>2560216 +They are significantly better eating if they're under months old. They get really tough after that. +--- 2560261 +>>2560183 (OP) +3 options I think. + +>1. ask around and/or put them on Craigslist or whatever you tend to use in your area. + +>2. Raise them, look which look the most healthy, keep those. Slaughter the rest and freeze the meat. + +>3. get a bigger coop, and make sure you have enough space outside as well. Mix and match with options 1 and 2. + +Also keep us updated anon, I love chicken. Dinosaurs, man. +--- 2560272 +>>2560261 +Got my family to chip in $200 each for a total of about $1000+ my own $600 so I've got roundabout $1600 to build or buy a better coop. + +Looking right now into sheds that we can convert or prebuilt and have a few options, any recommendations for builds or prebuilt/sheds would be appreciated. + +Also pic rel is 10 I current have they're about 2 weeks old at this point. +--- 2560288 +>>2560183 (OP) +>The original coop I had planned won't house 20 chickens comfortably +If you have room for 10 chickens comfortably you have room for 20 chickens humanely. Chickens are retarded dinosaurs they don't have the same standards you do. +--- 2560300 +Release the extra ones. Let them be free. +--- 2560353 +>>2560272 +You could build a palatial coop for that amount of cash. At least around here. +An okay one of you have to pay labor. +>>2560300 +Let the foxes, racoons and hawks do your dirty work for you. Plus they'll detick your yard very well. +--- 2560370 +>>2560203 +Why are they so dirty? Do you not collect them daily? +--- 2560375 +>>2560370 +They live with a large flock of ducks and those are dirty dirty birds. It's a gamble wether they'll come out clean from a day to day. +--- 2560454 +You probably paid $6 ea at TSC, right? Sell the extras for $15 or $20 ea when they are old enough to leave the brooder. Someone would likely pay extra to not have to deal with brooding chicks. If that doesn't work, buy a second coop. If that isn't an option, check out the chickshaw. I made one and it worked for a while for my flock of 30+ until the wind flipped it over and busted it. To be fair, I had never built anything before and I made a lot of mistakes putting it all together. +--- 2560508 +>>2560183 (OP) +>Working towards self sufficiency +>Don't think I could bring myself to kill them + +Good luck +--- 2561021 +>>2560183 (OP) +Are the chicks unsexed? Thats usually how they are sold. Just care for the 20 and wait for them to get old enough for you to tell which are pullets and which are roosters. Then kill all but one rooster but you dont even need a rooster, he'll just be useful for protecting your flock. + +Another option is to build a cheap t-post and chicken wire fence and let the roosters fight to the death, the strongest survives and he'll protect the flock +--- 2561072 +>>2560213 +>prolific egg laying breeds +Like what, New Hampshire? That'd be up to 250 eggs a year per hen. Do you plan on building an egg fort? +--- 2561805 +>>2561072 +not OP but i got 2 rhode island reds, which lay up to 300 a year. We eat eggs every day so no forts for us :( +--- 2561811 +>>2560183 (OP) +>I need some help +Yeah, you need to stop being a limp +wristed panty waist + +You want to be self sufficient? Fatten them up and slaughter the biggest birds. It's good to know how to clean a chicken +--- 2561813 +>>2560353 +How do other ground birds survive against foxes and birds of prey? How do turkeys exist? +--- 2561835 +>>2560183 (OP) +Well if you had a cat you'd have 10 good meals for it. +--- 2561878 +>>2561813 +Turkeys can fly. +--- 2561959 +Find a small local auction house that does livestock, find what days they auction and start making some friends with other likeminded folk +--- 2561980 +Reminds me of the time I'd raise my chickens when I was little and my mom would kill them. That whore. +--- 2562081 +OP here ended up giving the chicks to someone we knew who had room for em. Also we found a great guy near us who builds coops and got a great custom coop for the same price as the shit-ass tractor supply one. +>>2561072 +I eat 4-6 eggs daily. Plus other family members. +>>2560508 +At least you have the courtesy to label yourself eurofag. +>>2561805 +Based bro, I love eggs, absolute superfood. +>>2561811 +I'm a 6'1 190lbs autistic Adonis anon. Though I do agree it's a bit pansy, but sorry I just love animals. +>>2561980 +Fuck that bitch, chickens are pure souls. +--- 2562083 +>>2560183 (OP) +OP I know you don't want to kill laying chickens, but let me put it this way: The world has enough chickens, and they're very cheap. If you can't find someone to take them, kill and eat them. Millions on millions of baby chicks every single year. Grocery store is full of chicken. You can get a chicken sandwich or friend chicken damn near anywhere. Their value is very low. Kill the chickens. +>t. Grandad was a chicken farmer. Have have killed thousands. +--- 2562172 +>>2560183 (OP) +theyre made of chicken +eat them +--- 2562381 +It's not self-sufficient but why not just find a butcher to just bring extra chickens to and let him do the job? You'd have a supply of eggs and meat then without having to do the killing yourself. +--- 2562388 +>>2560272 +Where the fuck do you live? I built my coop that houses a 100 birds for $200. Learn to frame, build a square, make a wooden ladder and put it diagonally in the coop for roosting space, job done. With the extra money put siding on it and a nice roof. +Also this +>>2560288 +I highly doubt you can house 10 chickens and not 20 unless your coop is a dresser, which btw works, I have a dresser as a coop for silkies. +--- 2562391 +>>2561021 +>Another option is to build a cheap t-post and chicken wire fence and let the roosters fight to the death, the strongest survives and he'll protect the flock +Yes, commit a crime in every developed nation on the world instead of just giving them away or eating them, highly intelligent. +--- 2562396 +>>2562081 +>4-6 eggs daily +That doesn't seem healthy to me. +--- 2563125 +Non meat chickens take a long time to mature so slaughering them isnt very practical because of how long it will take. If you can keep them long enough for them to be large you can slaughter them easily for some meat and some very good broth. Check craigslist and see if anyones getting rid of a doghouse you can put a door on or a shed. +--- 2563126 +>>2560242 +Yeah this will work +--- 2563129 +>>2560375 +What kind of ducks do you keep? +--- 2563213 +>>2563129 +Khaki Campbell and Pekins. But I'll impulse buy something else once and awhile. Sometimes the Pekins get so big they'll crush eggs so there's that. +--- 2563777 +>>2560199 +If you want to kill an egg lying hen, especially a young one then you are a retarded faggot LARPer but we knew it already +--- 2563791 +>make my chickens freerange +>they kick the rocks in my garden bed up onto the grass +--- 2563793 +>>2560370 +I collect mine daily and sometimes they're covered in shit. It's normal. +--- 2563802 +>>2560183 (OP) +Avian flu is appearing again-keep them and cash in +--- 2563822 +>>2562391 +Gambling is the crime when it comes to cock fighting. He's just allowing his roosters to cull themselves. Nothing illegal about culling livestock. +--- 2563823 +>>2563802 +bird flu is just as fake and gay as covid +--- 2563825 +>>2560183 (OP) +Haven't read the thread yet so someone else may have said this already but I'd say keep the extra chickens and expand your coop or build an add-on section if you need to. 10 extra chicks is sweet if you can accommodate them. Good adult hens can sell for 50-100$ a head at trade markets... or you could let them stay egg factories and decide if you want to sell them later. +--- 2563952 +>>2563213 +>khaki Campbell's and Pekins + +Based. I grew out 10 Pekins last year and butchered them all in the fall. I think I only have 2 left in the freezer, I dont know what recipe my wife uses when she cooks them, but my lord they are exquisite. Makes chicken taste like refried dog shit. + + Got 20 Pekin eggs in the incubator right now for this season. +--- 2563954 +>>2563952 +Nice I've been breeding Brahmas and Speckled Sussex for 2 years now, I raise good hens and roosters and take them to market and sell them plus billions of eggs +--- 2564193 +>>2560203 +Are some of those eggs for niggers? +--- 2564257 +>>2560203 +Holy shit your wall outlet is installed the right way up. I almost never see that. +--- 2564289 +>>2560272 +Why do you need $1600 for a coop, all the coops I have seen are extremely simple, build a frame made out of some 2x4 then put in plywood for the floors walls and ceiling. A box made of 2x4 with plywood for the walls. Then put some kind of roof on top of the plywood to keep it dry. The idea is more like a barn then it is shed. For the chickens to live just build a multilevel shelf inside with a ladder/ramp to each level. Depending on your level of rural and how much land you have just let the chickens walk around your farm or land. It's what 60% of the rednecks and farmers around me do. +--- 2564321 +>>2564289 +If you are resourceful in finding lumber and have some basic building skills then chicken coops can be almost free besides the time and energy... minus some wire for windows and back fence area etc +--- 2564322 +>>2564289 +Also yeah I have about 20 acres for chickens to roam around on that isn't taken up by other livestock and sometimes I feel like I don't need to feed them except in the dead of winter, I still throw out some egg layer pellet and scratch grain in the coop fence for the brooding hens but the rest of the chickens barely pick on it and seem to do fine just finding bugs and stuff during the day (in summer) +--- 2564360 +>>2562396 +You're right, he should be drinking some lowfat s o y milk like you +--- 2564362 +>>2562396 +4-6 eggs daily is perfect. I eat 5 eggs for breakfast every morning. Cholesterol worry is a Hebrew lie if you eat an optimal natural diet not stocked with goy-feed, corn syrup, and vegetable goil +--- 2564379 +>>2561813 +>How do other ground birds survive against foxes and birds of prey? +Actual wild chicken live in dense jungles and are good at running and flying. Turkeys hardly count as ground birds. +--- 2565210 +>>2562396 +>retard alert.jpg +--- 2565724 +one of my chickens has a limp and doesnt lay eggs +another chicken doesnt have a limp but walks slowly, spends most of the day standing still in the middle of the lawn doing nothing, and is very docile almost too docile, she might be retarded butt she lays eggs (often outside the nesting box) + +what do? +--- 2567038 +>>2565724 +Cull them. I'm doing 3 of my brown layers today. I might get an egg every other day from them, and one of them is sickly looking. So Im gonna turn them into dog food +--- 2567041 +How do you know you dont have any roosters? +--- 2568415 +>>2560211 +>They only lay productively for a few years +Stop peddling someone else's bullshit. They lay for several years, 5-7 on average depending on environmental conditions. diff --git a/out/2560605.txt b/out/2560605.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..92f6cb136597cd08d7b16d2edd7e7fe56ef0be49 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2560605.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1165 @@ +----- +--- 2560605 +Why do /out/istics hate hammocks? I prefer hammocks to tents so long as it's more than 0C desu. Especially on multiday hikes +--- 2560615 +>>2560605 (OP) +we hate everything, m8. i'm also aware of the fact that my preferences are not only the best way, but also the only acceptable one. +--- 2560632 +>>2560605 (OP) +There are a few reasons. + +>Europeans +There are no hammock manufacturers on that entire continent that make decent products appropriately sized for an adult man. Also hammocks are impossible to hide in a small patch of bushes on a private farm road 3km from town, which is the most common type of European “hiking.” + +>autistics +The concept of the exception isn’t easily understood by people with severe autism (aka the majority of /out). That’s where the comments about deserts and being above tree line come in. Having the inability to understand the basic mindset of others, they fail to grasp that we know about the exceptions. + +>larpers and GI Joe cosplayers +The military and YouTube survivalists haven’t really adopted hammocks as a go-to shelter just yet. Until they do, /out/ and /k/ will continue to suggest using bivies. + +There are a minority of people who once strung a 9’ AliExpress hammock banjo string tight, couldn’t sleep in it, and decided it’s not for them. +--- 2560636 +My back doesn't like being shaped like a banana for 8 hours + +Restricted to areas with trees a certain distance apart, and this puts you in areas with other hammock enjoyers, or so far out away that it interferes with other plans + +Dealing with tying certain knots is not bad after a long day out, but untying in the morning is annoying. + +Last outing was with friends, 3 with tents, 1 with hammock, tent guys had to compromise our spots to be near certain trees with that certain distance apart. It's just unnecessary when a foam pad + inflatable weigh the same as a hammock, netting, and cord +--- 2560641 +>>2560632 +Damn, I forgot to add actual retards like >>2560636 to the list. + +>banana +No +>knots +Lol +>trees certain distance apart +LMAO! +--- 2560648 +>>2560605 (OP) +>womb simulator for overgrown babies +no thanks boss. +--- 2560649 +>>2560632 +>Europeans +i live in Norway so can't speak to the lack of right to roam in the rest of the continent, but they sell plenty of good hammocks here, including Hennessey. But hell even the cheaper stuff gets the job done +The rest sounds about right though. +>>2560636 +Skill issue. If you set it up right you can sleep straight or even on your side no problem. And finding a good tent spot is way harder than a good hammock spot. But yeah when with friends it's ofc better to tent together in large tents +--- 2560655 +>>2560649 +Cheap hammocks are rarely over 10’ long. I’m 6’ 1”, the appropriate height for an adult man. If a hammock is less than 11’ long my feet hang off the end. +--- 2560657 +>>2560632 +>Also hammocks are impossible to hide in a small patch of bushes on a private farm road 3km from town, which is the most common type of European “hiking.” +Huh, wonder on which continet I've been hiking, then. +Pic related being from a nature reserve up north I visted and hiked in last summer. 80kms in 3 days walking up and down multiple fells and ridges. +I do use hammocks in the south, in the north there are no trees to hang anything from. +--- 2560658 +>>2560648 +Nobody said anything about getting a gf +--- 2560661 +>>2560655 +I'm 6'4. Some are a bit small but it's not hard to find a big one. And even with a small one, who cares if your feet are off the edge? You're in a sleeping bag and wearing wool socks most of the time anyway. Worst case, put a pillow or some clothes under your knees and it's fine +--- 2560663 +>>2560661 +>who cares +I care. +>sleeping bag in a hammock +No +>socks while sleeping +Bro, do you even hike? + +It’s only an issue when I’m stretching out and relaxing in the afternoon or in the morning. When I sleep I end up curled up on my side. It actually works out well because I can use a 3/4 length underquilt. +--- 2560665 +>>2560632 +Dull arguments + +>There are no hammock manufacturers on that entire continent that make decent products appropriately sized for an adult man. +The sad fact is that Americans pay $200 for a sheet of nylon. + +Order 350x160 sheet of 70D nylon for $25. Fold in and overhand knot the ends. Tie loops to the ends. Attach straps to the loops with carabiners. Have yourself a hammock. Made me sell the Warbonnets again. +--- 2560666 +>>2560636 +>Dealing with tying certain knots is not bad after a long day out, but untying in the morning is annoying. +Nylon straps and carabiners. Not only is it much, much, much easier to deal with it's also much kinder to the trees. Also makes for a simple way to vary the length of your hang. +--- 2560668 +>>2560663 +>When I sleep I end up curled up on my side. +Like a baby. Chads sleep on their backs +--- 2560729 +>>2560665 +>$200 +Imagine being so poor you think that’s a lot of money. Anyway, hammocks from cottage manufacturers are closer to $50. + +>just make one +Europeans can’t into DIY. It’s very strange, considering the lack of cottage manufacturers. +>out of 70D +Damn, and I thought Americans were fat +>just tie the ends +Anon, while I admire your willingness to tell people to do things that you would never bother doing, this isn’t necessarily good advice. Without hemming the sides, there’s a good chance it will tear. + +TBDesu, if you have access to a sewing machine, even one you don’t own, a hammock is the easiest DIY thing you can sew. It’s all straight lines on a rectangle of fabric. +>160cm +Is that right? Is it a nominal measurement? Nearly all ripstop nylon in the US is 60” wide (152cm), though I know there’s some 2.2oz, 70d that’s like 74”/188cm. Maybe 160cm is including selvage? +--- 2560739 +>>2560729 +Somethings off with your brain. Better get it checked out. +--- 2560760 +>>2560729 +>Europeans can’t into DIY +This is nonsense. The thing is more that you can get a reasonable chinesium hammock for much less than the materials and time of making one (at the low end) or you can just buy a pretty decent one from a manufacturer if you have a job. +I will agree that some other kinds of DIY are less common here, but that's usually because the space to have a woodshop in your home is extortionately expensive. +--- 2560764 +>>2560641 +>banana +>no + +Elaborate on this for me please. Bivy camper with a bad back thinking about making the switch but this seems like a sound argument. +--- 2560767 +>>2560764 +Get a reasonable tautness +Lie at a 45deg angle to the ridgeline for more straightness +Sleep on your side +You do have to hammock right, just like anything /out/. +--- 2560788 +>>2560764 +With a properly hung hammock, you don’t sleep in a banana shape. You let the hammock sag, and sleep diagonally across it. The hammock opens up, and you lie nearly flat. Most people sleep on their sides in a hammock, and I’ve met a few old folks who legitimately couldn’t sleep on the ground because of various old folk issues. Hammocks allowed them to camp. + +Here’s a Shug video. + +https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cvj0ISjzl8 [Embed] +--- 2560803 +>>2560663 +Take the sock pill anon, you won't regret it. They have to be fresh socks ofc +--- 2560972 +>hate is a four letter word +>camp is a four letter word +>tarp is a four letter word +>hike is a four letter word +>tent is a four letter word +>pack is a four letter word +>tree is a four letter word +>hammock is a seven letter word +one of these things doesn't belong + +>>2560663 +>>2560803 +heat holders socks might sound like a meme but they are so comfy because they are warm and loose on the feet but stay on +--- 2560979 +>>2560803 +I guess if I lived in a really cold environment I’d probably be on board. The foot box on my quilt has been plenty enough down to the mid 20’s. If it gets colder than that I can just wait till the next weekend and it will be 30° warmer because it’s the South and the weather is retarded. +--- 2560992 +>>2560632 +>hammocks are impossible to hide in a small patch of bushes on a private farm road 3km from town + +European here, you can easily hide a hammock near a very frequented trail and be unedetected. Of course, you have to not be a big retard and not sleep right next to the road, or at eye level. 3/4 of the height of a tree is often the best if you manage to climb, and it keeps you an your stuff away from other humans and the occasional boar. +--- 2561020 +>>2560605 (OP) +What is it with all these boomers online saying that hammocks fix their back problems. I'm tall and have lower back problems and every time I've woken up in a hammock my lower back has been sore. I use the warbonnet blackbird which is supposedly the most comfortable hammock on the market +--- 2561044 +>>2560605 (OP) +Can't imagine they're viable for anyone bringing a friend. These days I go camping with my wife and when I was at uni inviting a girl out was my go-to way of getting in her pants. Hammocks would kill that, no? +--- 2561083 +>>2561044 +No. +--- 2561202 +>>2560605 (OP) +Tents are too comfy, fuck hammocks + +Why would I want to be zipped into a small sack that is tied to some trees? In a tent I can cook on my stove, read a book, lay down, and do 50 fuckin pushups. Weight of tent: 4.6 pounds +--- 2561216 +>>2561202 +>I can’t cook or do pushups under an 11x9 tarp +Lol +>I can’t lie down in a hammock +Are you ok? +--- 2561220 +>>2561216 +Tents are much better than hammocks for many reasons, that is what I said. +--- 2561222 +>>2561216 +Can wank in them +--- 2561261 +>>2561220 +You implied that tents are better without giving any actual reasons. And I don’t think you can do 50 consecutive push-ups. +--- 2561310 +>>2560665 +The biggest issues will be underquilts and tarps, not the hammock body. +--- 2561311 +I built a hammock stand for my bedroom, sleeping in it every night has cured my back pain. +--- 2561339 +>>2560605 (OP) +I prefer a tent for many reasons +>better in foul weather +>I can dump my backpack out inside +>I can sit up or lay down +the list goes on.. +--- 2561350 +>>2560655 +>6’ 1”, the appropriate height for an adult man +--- 2561353 +>>2561020 +>I use the warbonnet blackbird which is supposedly the most comfortable hammock on the market +nah, that would be the haven tent hammock. +--- 2561359 +>>2560663 +>Doesn't wear socks while camping +Breh what? Why not? +Keep a big warm pair in your bag a d only wear it for sleeping. Game changer in the winter +--- 2561377 +>>2560632 +>they hated him because he was right +--- 2561382 +My hammock, I am up high because the river has salmon and brown bears. At night I hear all kinds of spooky shit outside and I feel like a burrito. But if the "animal" tries to get you the hammock spins around like youtube related making you almost impossible for you to eat. But they spin you around so much it's hard to get out, took me about a half hour once. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RLEVuEscdw [Embed] +--- 2561383 +Most people are not creatures of reason +--- 2561384 +>>2561382 +Burrito, the ultimate defense. +--- 2561385 +My area's trees (which are often closer to shrubs) are not suitable for hammocks. I usually go for a bivvy. Given how dry it is here condensation is not really a problem. +--- 2561386 +>>2560632 +>The military and YouTube survivalists haven’t really adopted hammocks as a go-to shelter just yet. + +The military has to take into account the issue of stealth which most hikers do not care about. +--- 2561387 +>>2561384 +He must be a spic. I feel more like a soba sandwich. +--- 2561389 +>>2561384 +I used to keep a fire going but it didn't help. +>>2561387 +>salmon +>brown bears +>forest +>He must be a spic. +--- 2561414 +>>2561339 +>muh weather +Wrong +>empty my pack out +Why can’t you do that with a hammock? +>I can’t sit up in a hammock +wut? See pic and explain why it’s so complicated. +--- 2561418 +>>2561414 +>Why can’t you do that with a hammock? +Emptying out your backpack in your hammock sounds like a terrible idea +--- 2561422 +>>2561359 +homemade woolsocks all the time +--- 2561423 +>>2561418 +>sit under an enormous tarp +>take out various object from your backpack +>place them on the ground +--- 2561431 +>>2561423 +>placing your things where racoons can run up and snatch them +AMATEUR HOUR!!! +--- 2561436 +>>2561431 +>my tent is raccoon proof +What kind of pussy ass faggot raccoons do they have there? +--- 2561442 +>>2561436 +What kind of pussy ass faggoy tents do you have? +--- 2561445 +>>2561414 +Do that when it's pouring down rain. Oh, do you only camp in the sunshine? +--- 2561449 +>>2561445 +>can’t sit in a hammock in the rain +wut? +>can’t put things under a tarp in the rain +wut? +>hammocks don’t work in the rain +wit? + +Use your words +--- 2561450 +>>2561445 +Local anon cannot fathom tarp camping. + +>>2561418 +Eh anything soft can go into the hammock, typically carry some foam mat for sitting which makes a good floor and a backup for ground camping if the area is unknown. +--- 2561454 +>>2561442 +Please take your waxed canvas 18th century LARP gear back to /cgl/ +--- 2561459 +>>2561454 +Fuck you, didnt even give me a chance to say it myself. +For the record, i was going to say +>well i dont carry 20 pounds of canvas on my back for nothing +But youre too good to play along, i guess. +--- 2561467 +This board is so damn Americanized +--- 2561472 +>>2561423 +>Take out various objects from your backpack +>Place them on the ground +>They roll down hill because superior hammock can be set up anywhere +>Place items in hammock instead +>I'm now laying in a hammock with gear piled on top of me + +Guys, I also have hammocks but you definitely have more space to move gear around in a tent. +--- 2561491 +>>2561467 +And thats a good thing +--- 2561533 +I use hammocks because there are woods everywhere and unlike you idiots I actualy know how to sleep in one without feeling the discomfort you faggots are talking about. +>>2561491 +no +--- 2561540 +>>2561533 +>no +Yes +--- 2561548 +>>2561540 +>Yes +yeah fucker right you guys are the worst and you should stick to watching tv +>go /out/ for three days with some american exchange students five years back that you met in the university +>also have a dog trained for being /out/ so basically a hunting dog +>amerifags start asking how in seven hells you don't keep it on a leash because it can run away +>tell them about the dog's training and demonstrate some of its abilities +>yeah whatever anon this is dangerous for other people because in muh america dogs kill even babies +>an hour into the walking hear one of amerifags talking that he has to take a shit +>he goes into some bushes and comes back with shit in a plastic bag +>look confused and ask what the fuck +>yeah anon we don't want to litter haha the smell would freak out wild animals +>ask him if he ever thought about burying the turd then +>no haha then my shovel would get dirty +>amerifag takes his shit and puts it in a plastic jar so he can throw it into a garbage bin when he sees one +>two hours later turns out that the shit-collector's gf is on her period +>starts freaking out about hygiene and takes the shitjar with her to throw in her used tampon +>vampire teabag dispenser wants to take photos +>every single one of them is her doing some stupid face near some cliff or whatever +>take one photo because she asked +>she complains that she is on the side and the view can actualy be seen +>we find a camping site only to find out that they light a fucking fire with a zippo gasoline can +>instead of mre they eat fucking cheeseburgers meant for microwaves +>hear a male deer in the night because mating season +>they start doing a sound similar to the deer +>tell them to shut up or wrestle a testosterone-filled deer without me or my dog who started to freak out only when they wanted to be haha so silly +>they keep talking the entire time the next day +>talking is okay but not the entire time when you want to hear the birds and shit +would write more but it would be too long +--- 2561584 +>>2561548 +>I had a bad irl experience this one time five years ago +>this is a reflection of this board +I thought Europeans were smart. +--- 2561610 +>>2560657 +>>2561382 + +Can you give an approximate location of those places please? +--- 2561614 +>>2561610 +Wtf is this GPT-4chan bullshit? +--- 2561620 +>>2561614 +Site-wide April Fools joke. +--- 2561621 +>>2561584 +Don't forget how he wanted everyone to eat MREs + +What a fucking faggot +--- 2562552 +>>2560605 (OP) +I've fallen down the hammock rabbit hole. Want to do some m/o/torcycle camping this summer and found hammocks to be the best setup. I have bought: +>underquilt +>topquilt +>hammock +>suspension +>tarp +but then I realized I still need a shitton of other things now, like +>tarp ridgeline with wasps +>guylines +>stakes +>fleaz +>shock cord +>poles to widen the tarp +this is getting ridiculous. I bet I'm still missing more stuff... +--- 2562562 +>>2560632 +>There are no hammock manufacturers on that entire continent that make decent products appropriately sized for an adult man. + +Poles do a pretty good job. Lesovik Draka - 330 × 150 cm. FlyHamak Ursa - 350 cm x 185 cm. + + +>>2562552 +>tarp ridgeline with wasps +>fleaz +Haven't used fancy wasps, but simple 2$ nama-claws from Aliexpress work fine for me (pic related). Attaching tarp ridgeline to a tree with a carabiner on one side, claw on the other side - and tarp itself to the ridgeline using two more claws. Way cheaper than any fancy hammock-specific thingies. +--- 2562587 +>>2562552 +You do t neet a separate ridge line, as most tarps have a sewn ridge. Wasps or something similar are a good idea though. Every setup needs stakes; if you’re sleeping outside, that’s pretty much a given. I never understood the point of fleaz. Shok cord and pole mods are just a luxury. +--- 2562934 +>>2562552 +Just get 50ft of zing it or similar. 15ft on either side of the tarp. 5ft for the other 4 (assuming 4) points. Cheap Y aluminum stakes on Amazon work pretty good, some sets come with shitty cordage but they also have the metal tensioners which saves you from tying knots for the stakes. Truckers hitch and two-half hitches for the Ridgeline, bobs your uncle. The fancy hardware is cool but it's not required. +--- 2562936 +>>2560605 (OP) +Ask me how i know you only hike in the east where you cant even get above timberline +--- 2562943 +>>2562936 +You know, for as good as the west coast supposedly is, you sure spend a lot of time talking about the east coast. +--- 2562995 +>>2562562 +>>2562587 +Alright, I went with continuous ridgeline with wasp and Nama claws, and Nana claws for the stakes +>>2562934 +Aw shoots I ordered before I saw this reply. I went with MSR groundhogs since I didn't know what to get and will pair it with lots of zing it rope which I will cut to length and throw Nama claws onto + +Here's what I bought online over the past few days: +>Dutchware chameleon, Hexon 1.0, peak shelf, bug net +>HammockGear Economy insulator and burrow over and underquilt +>Beetle buckle hammock suspension +>xenon silpoly tarp with doors +>Continuous ridgeline kit with wasp and Nama claws +>MSR groundhog stakes (6 but I only needed 4) +>Extra 25' of zing-it rope (to cut and add to stakes) +>shock cord (it was only $5) +Sucks how weak the Canadian dollar is. Americans don't know how good they have it... This was like $1k but whatever, buy once cry once! I'll try to go out in late April and hit up some hotsprings while motorcycling around BC +--- 2562999 +>>2562995 +>all that +You are terrible at shopping +--- 2563002 +>>2562999 +I tried to do my research :/ +--- 2563004 +>>2563002 +Did this "research" involve reading (totally not sponsores) how to guides, reviews, and articles? +--- 2563005 +>>2563004 +No, I tried my best to sift through shit and read actual, honest accounts on vBulletin forums from people with no agenda +--- 2563007 +>>2563005 +>actual, honest accounts on vBulletin +lol +>from people with no agenda +LMAO + +anon i feel sorry for you, but i dont want you to feel bad. This is a learning experience. + +An important questions to ask YOURSELF when researching things like this is +>how did people do it before all these name brand products existed +The answer is almost always +>everything you need is at your local hardware store +Sans the actual hammock ofcourse. +--- 2563012 +>>2563007 +I went to my local hardware store and maybe things are different where you live but my selection was essentially bargain bin dollarstore quality-tier, and was quite limited. I have to go the online route. I hope and pray the hammock will work for me +--- 2563014 +>>2563012 +>bargain bin dollarstore quality-tier +Okay? Do you weigh 600 pounds or something? +--- 2563042 +>>2560665 +Our hammocks are more advanced, bigger and, more comfortable, you're not paying for the same thing +--- 2563050 +>>/out/istic +Never understood this meme, /out/ is the most well adjusted, sanest most positive board on 4chinz +--- 2563061 +>>2560605 (OP) +i used to like them till i fucked my back up, now i can't really fall asleep in them. +>>2560665 +hammockfags seem to have the highest rate of people who make their own gear and america's the main place with all the companies making hammocks that aren't mass produced. +--- 2563062 +>>2562995 +i don't know modern hammock gear but i don't think you fucked up. the quilts are the most expensive part and as long as you did the 'custom' parts correct (sizing, comfort rating, etc) hg econs are pretty much the standard first 'serious' quilt everyone buys, great price -> performance ratio. at least in america i don't know how your looney tooney fag money affects things. i used to have one it was great and i'm pretty sure my ex whore's still using it, i upgraded to 950 fill bags. +>>2563007 +>>2563014 +anon if you're seriously suggesting anon camp under a hardware store tarp... just stop retard. its not even cheaper than buying a real tarp. they leak the first few times you use them. i do residential construction i use those things all the time they're pieces of shit and meant to be thrown away after 1 use on a job site they're not camping gear. +in a turn of events you are the vBulletin retard +--- 2563063 +>$20 hardware store tarp +>leaks after 4 uses +vs +>$80 gearfag silnylon/silpoly tarp +>lasts your entire life +only cheaper if you don't go outside +--- 2563064 +>>2563004 +Dutchware is rarely mentioned outside of people who actually use it. It’s pretty typical for cottage manufacturers. And that’s not that much “stuff,” it’s just a complete hammock setup. + +>>2562995 +Does the Chameleon come with a structural ridge line? +--- 2563065 +>>2563062 +picrel i only post opinions on gear i have really used +unlike this hardware store everbilt tarp larper +--- 2563066 +>>2563062 +>>2563063 +>>2563064 +--- 2563067 +>>2563065 +You do realize they sell higher line tarps right next to the cheap ones, right? +--- 2563070 +>>2563067 +>You do realize they sell higher line tarps right next to the cheap ones, right? +those aren't high end tarps just because they're expensive. those are made out of woven plastic https://www.homedepot.com/b/Paint-Paint-Supplies-Tarps/ anon doesn't need a 80 dollar woven plastic tarp. we're going camping not covering up lumber for the winter, je-sus. anon can wait a week for a real backpacking tarp to show up in the mail from a specialty company. +--- 2563096 +>>2563070 +>a real backpacking tarp +I wish you were trolling +--- 2563113 +>>2562995 +Looks good. If you're new to hammock get out to the woods during the day to fiddle and practice. Dutchware are good people if you have questions via hammockforum. + + >>2563064 +Most do with the bug nets. If not, easy to add and they bought extra cordage. + +>>2563096 +It's 2023 pops, only bushcrafters use waxed canvas. +--- 2563123 +>>2563096 +i know you're not trolling because i've seen you try to recommend hardware store tarps before... and if you waste your life on such asinine trolls on the slowest board on 4chan... yowza +in what world does it make sense to camp under a hardware store tarp? +have you ever used one before? +they're not completely water tight and they pinhole from very light use outside. +why would you waste $20 on some one time disposable bullshit that's a liability and doesn't even do its job? +jewgle search +"silpoly 9x9 tarp" +first result +68 dollars for a tarp that'll last decades +even cheaper if you make it yourself +ripstop by the roll dot com or whatever +fucks sake this is not difficult. stop recommending hardware store tarps to newfags. +--- 2563127 +>I wish you were trolling +silpoly... silnylon... any fabric coated in polyurethane... waxed canvas... coarse wool without its lanolin removed.. fuck i don't know you have a lot of acceptable options whether you want to go with modern camping gear or ren faire. +using a hardware store tarp made out of plastic with a weave that loose, you may as well go back to wearing a banana leaf skirt you nigger. +--- 2563133 +>>2563123 +>i know you're not trolling because i've seen you try to recommend hardware store tarps before... +No, you havent, because i havent. + +>in what world does it make sense to camp under a hardware store tarp? +The one where youre not forced to buy the cheapest tarp? + +>>2563113 +>It's 2023 pops, only bushcrafters use waxed canvas. +Well maybe more people should. +--- 2563134 +>>2563127 +>using a hardware store tarp +Wait until you figure out you can buy the aforementioned style tarps from a hardware store... +--- 2563137 +>>2563123 +>yowza +Opinion discarded. Blue tarps are an acceptable option for someone just getting into /out. They don't cost much and they work fine as long as you aren't camping in heavy rain. +--- 2563143 +>>2563137 +>Blue tarps are an acceptable option for someone just getting into /out. +only for learning how to pitch a tarp at the park or in their back yard. +that's it. +its a waste of $20. +that's 1/2 the cost of making a real tarp and 1/3 the cost of just buying one someone else made. +good high quality tarps are very cheap. you're thinking with short time preference like a nigger trying to nickel and time, when really you are just telling people to waste their money on crap that will wind up in a landfill. +>they work fine as long as you aren't camping in heavy rain. +what +the fuck +do you think a tarp +is for +you mouth breathing fucking moron +if the weather is so fair that it doesn't matter that your tarp is leaking like a sieve you can just cowboy camp, you don' even need a tarp. moderate climate faggot. +>anon lives up north +>it rains +what now nigger +--- 2563146 +and fuck even if you are talking about saving money +you can get a 30d silpoly tarp for 17 dollars on aliexpress +that's cheaper than a blue tarp at my local home depot +neither one is a 'standard' 9x9 they're both narrow. but point is, its not even cheaper, its just the wrong kind of tarp. why the fuck would an anon going hiking pay $20 for a $5 blue tarp marked up because contractors have no other choice but to buy whats closest? +--- 2563150 +>>2563143 +Nta but you do know that plastic weave tarps dont just turn into screens when they leak, right? +--- 2563151 +>>2563143 +>just spend two to three times as much on something you're only trying out +okay +>there's no such thing as light to moderate rain +okay +>it only rains up north +kek +--- 2563156 +>>2563146 +I've actually never looked at aliexpress until today. It looks like what you'd get if amazon and a scam site had a mutated lovechild. Is that where people go to get sweatshop merch and also have their identity stolen? +--- 2563158 +>>2563156 +Yes, once someone mentions alibaba its good practice to disregard anything they said previously as shilling. +--- 2563160 +you stupid nigger i build houses, im a general contractor, i buy tens maybe even hundreds of hardware store tarps a year. +they're not high quality tarps. +they're pieces of shit. +you didn't find some money saving lifehack. +hardware store tarps are made of the lowest grade recycled plastics and they're built for two purposes: +- being the cheapest to produce object you could possibly legally describe as a tarp +- getting marked up to $20 because home depot has a monopoly and they have you by the balls knowing you're losing money every minute you spend in their store. $60 of piece of shit tarps? haha just scan the card!!! +you aren't some gigagenius that found one trick that the outdoors industry hates. there's no grand conspiracy to stop you from buying a sheet of silpoly for $7.50 a foot off the first result on google and learning how to sew a rectangle tarp. +that's how you actually save money. used sewing machine might cost a few more dollars than buying the tarp pre made but then you can make your own gear. +--- 2563164 +>>2563160 +>buying bulk tarps for construction is the same as buying one for stringing up between two trees +>just buy a sewing machine, order a bunch of fabric and make your own gear to try out camping +okay +--- 2563170 +>>2563160 +>i buy tens maybe even hundreds of hardware store tarps a year. +...the good ones? +Exactly retard... +--- 2563172 +>>2563156 +aliexpress is chink amazon, but chinks don't use it, its their western facing market for foreigners. +its parent site alibaba is where most of the local businesses in your city get all the stuff they sell you, and where most of the stuff you buy on amazon comes from. almost everything you see on amazon and a lot of ebay = someone in america mass bought [object] on alibaba, put it in a warehouse in your country, and charge you a premium for the logistics. its called drop shipping. +--- 2563175 +>>2563170 +the good ones cost more than buying a 9x9 silpoly tarp from borah +do you know what the 'good' tarps cost at home depot? +>>2563164 +>okay +stupid fucking water head nigger +do you not read you monkey ape? +>and 1/3 the cost of just buying one someone else made. +--- 2563176 +>>2563172 +Good thing I don't buy from Amazon, then. I either order directly from the manufacturer or get stuff secondhand. +--- 2563178 +>>2563158 +said the coin clipper who's told multiple anons to buy a hardware store tarp +--- 2563180 +>>2563178 +No, i told you to buy a good tarp. You seem to think hardware stores only stock shitty plastic weave tarps. +--- 2563183 +>>2563175 +Someone's mad this morning. Foreman riding your ass or something? +--- 2563185 +>>2563176 +>I either order directly from the manufacturer +oh, you're probably really familiar with taobao alibaba etc then. aliexpress is just alibaba trying to compete with amazon and ebay. its cheaper to handle your own logistics if you know how to, when buying direct. aliexpress is essentially just a service that handles the international logistics, holds your payment in escrow until you receive the product and release it, and gives you buyer protection in exchange for a fee. if you know how to navigate international logistics or hire an agent its not worth the cost except on small items. +--- 2563188 +>>2563180 +what the fuck are you mumbling about retard???? +i linked you every single tarp home depot sells in store and mail order. they are all made of woven PE or HDPE. the "good" tarps are just tighter but still comically loose for this application weaves and thicker plastic. +go to home depot dot com and type tarp +--- 2563189 +why would you waste money on a hardware store tarp? if you're broke just get a borah https://borahgear.com/tarps.html +68 dollars +good tarp +all you need for life +beginner expert i don't give a fuck its a 9x9 silpoly tarp +five minute crafts lifehack pajeet retard +--- 2563195 +>>2563189 +See >>2563137 +--- 2563196 +here i even did the math for you retard +it costs 34 dollars for the silpoly to make that tarp +plus the loops and thread and shit +wow such a massive mark up for a hand made mitusa product from a small business!! +these tarp makers are really ripping us off guise!!!1!1!1one!1 +>letting jews on /out/ +--- 2563197 +>>2563195 +see: you're retarded +--- 2563199 +>>2563137 +clueless clown +--- 2563200 +>>2563188 +>home depot +Okay, now check the other dozen hardware stores everyone has within driving distance. +--- 2563201 +>>2563197 +You really are that kinda guy, huh... +--- 2563202 +>>2563200 +>other dozen hardware stores +>america +anon... you know what a monopoly is? +--- 2563204 +>>2563202 +...do you? I have 4 hardware stores, none of which are lowes or home depot, and only one of which is a chain (with only 6 locations), in my little town of 8000 people. I get it my car? Its over. + +>durr america is le dystopia +Youre a drooling schizophrenic, seek help. +--- 2563205 +>>2563204 +>seek help +you sound like a woman +--- 2563206 +>>2563205 +>abandons the argument +L delivered, thanks for playing. +--- 2563207 +>>2563201 +anon +read back +do you think there's a single anon who will read your posts, read my posts, and come to the conclusion you have a single clue or fuck what you're talking about? +you're the age of a child and have to think about stuff like using hardware store tarps because you're not a man yet. your mom and dad don't give you enough money. i'll see you in the next bug out bag or running away from home thread. your type only exists to be made fun of. you don't know anything about the outdoors. you don't belong on this board. you're a depressed incel kid who should be on /adv/ asking how to fill out job applications or /diy/ learning a skill. 70 dollars for a piece of gear that lasts for decades isn't a lot for a grown adult. that's actually about as cheap as backpacking shelters get. +we get it your entire experience with the outdoors is living in some moderate climate where you can cowboy camp 300 days of the year and be fine. +you didn't even ask anon where he lives. +dude if you tell some anon to camp in a home depot tent and he lives in... canada... norway... pnw.. which are places lots of anons on this board live, that can get dangerous fast, more of the year than you'd think if you've never been to a part of the planet that actually has seasons and incliment weather. +the idea of someone camping in that kind of tarp where i live except maybe at the neighborhood park in the summer is +C +L +O +W +N +tier. +--- 2563208 +>>2563204 +i'm a general contractor anon. i drive all around my region doing jobs. hate to break it to you but home depot killed everything else. if you still got a local hardware store give them business 'cause they might not be around. +--- 2563209 +>anon camping +--- 2563210 +>>2563208 +Theyre not going anywhere, for some reason home depot and lowes just never moved into town. +--- 2563212 +actually most of the homeless here have like $2-300 tents +i know rei gives a lot of them out +--- 2563214 +>>2563210 +good +fuck home depot +lowes isn't a real hardware store i consider it a "diy" store with a decent gardening section +--- 2563215 +Well this devolved into a regarded argument, probably by just one guy, but who knows. The world is filled with retards. + +>blue tarp +Lol +>no no, the better one right next to it +Lmao +--- 2563216 +>if it rains heavy +i don't even live that far north anon, and my weather forecast was supposed to be clear skies +haha do you know what weather forecast means up north? +clear day one minute. next its sideways hail. then 6 inches of snow. then icy rain. then it was sunny and 60 degrees out. all in the afternoon. +you can't just assume everyone lives in a moderate climate +--- 2563231 +>>2563189 +I’d pass on a 9x9 square. + +Square tarps are usually hung as a diamond, which is less than ideal. 9x9 gives you 12.7’ as a diamond, which leaves 1.5’ of coverage over an 11’ hammock hung at 30°. So I mean sure, it technically fits. + +The problem is wind and minimal rain cover. The sides are much more exposed to wind, and rain on an angle could more easily reach the hammock near the head and foot. + +It could be hung asymmetrically, but it really depends on the tie out location. That will mitigate the risk from rain, but not really solve the wind problem. + +There’s also the fact that it’s got flat 9’ edges. It takes some practice to get them perfectly pitched, whereas catenary cuts are much more forgiving. + +I’m pretty sure someone (maybe Dutchware, possibly Warbonnet) was making tarps specifically with an asymmetric design. It was more similar to a hex tarp rather than a square or rectangle hung as a diamond. Dutchware definitely has asyms that are like diamonds with cat cut edges. + +I don’t think they ever really caught on, and hex cat cut seems to be the most common. It makes sense; it’s the easiest to pitch, offers more reasonable coverage, and can easily be made with doors. +--- 2563273 +>>2563207 +>getting this mad over people using cheap tarps +Life must be hard for you +--- 2563277 +>>2563273 +>Life must be hard for you +this is a homeless encampment in portland oregon +--- 2563281 +>>2563277 +>hoes mad +>get called out for being mad +>"Yeah, well, here's a shitty city!" +lol wut +--- 2563283 +>>2563281 +even the crack fiends can afford a better shelter +--- 2563315 +>>2563283 +>some homeless junkie in Portland got his hands on a cheap tent and a blanket, so nobody should use a cheap tarp to try out camping +holy kek +--- 2563321 +>>2563283 +>afford +Anon you know damn well they didnt buy that... +--- 2563592 +>>2563231 +Borah will probably cut a larger one for the associated costs. Simply Light will too. Paria outdoors has a cheaper silnylon one and there's a few on Amazon like aquaquest which aren't bad. Alibaba and a privacy card works though. + +>>2563315 +Oh now it's cheap again. I thought it was the nice home Depot tarp? +--- 2563613 +>>2563592 +Anon, I won't call you a schizo, but I will remind you that there are multiple people participating in this thread. +--- 2563617 +>>2563592 +See >>2563158 +--- 2563632 +>>2563613 +Oh no I just can't follow the blue tarp autism is all. Ruined what turned out to be a decent thread. + +Might fuck around with a 12ft hammock, will this give additional sag for comfort or will I just be drowning in fabric? +--- 2563649 +>>2563632 +>someone pointed out that cheap tarps work fine for someone trying out camping, the thread is RUINED +Stay mad +--- 2563669 +Hammocks are good. Takes some trial and error to hang and use one right for your own comfort though. People already mentioned laying diagonally but that's probably the biggest first timers mistake. otherwise once you got it down its some of the most comfy sleep you can get. +Also regarding tarps, you can use a good one, you can use a home made one, or you can use a cheap one and patch it if holes pop up. I've had cheap flimsy tarps outlast thick double later stuff sometimes. +--- 2563692 +>>2563613 +>Anon, I won't call you a schizo +you really think the guy telling people to buy a hardware store tarp doesn't suffer from mental illness? +come on now... +heroin addicts have their life together more than that. +>>2563617 +what kind of dumb ass post is this? +>im a general contractor +of course i know what alibaba is i own a small business +--- 2563694 +>>2563649 +you've been getting clowned on by at least 3 or 4 anons for going on 24 hours now +i haven't posted in hours, i was working, trust me i'm not the only anon making fun of you +--- 2563697 +>>2563692 +>>2563694 +OP hooked some good ones in this thread, kek +--- 2563708 +>>2560655 +Sorry chief but you're about an inch shy of man height. +--- 2563715 +5'11" master race +--- 2563724 +>>2563697 +the guy who's been recommending blue tarps for months isn't "baiting" +--- 2563733 +>>2563724 +Is this "the guy" in the room with us right now? +--- 2563813 +>>2563632 +It’s not so much additional sag as it is additional width. It’s somewhat counterintuitive, but a wider hammock results in unusable fabric. My Eno Doublenest has more floppy fabric on either side than any of my 12’ hammocks. +--- 2564667 +Is setting up a one person hammock faster and easier than a one person tent? +--- 2564671 +>>2564667 +i can pitch my cloudup 2 in a few minutes, staked out and everything. if a hammock is faster it cant by any significant amount +--- 2564679 +>>2564671 +If you're a retard who can't into knots, it might take awhile. Otherwise, it shouldn't take more than a few minutes. +--- 2564680 +>>2561548 +You sound like a faggot. What kind of loser brings MREs to eat while /out/ and gets mad that no one wants to roleplay with you and eat a shitty fucking MRE. +--- 2564683 +>>2564680 +Probably a military reject +--- 2564699 +>>2560605 (OP) +Do I need to add and remove the bugnet for each setup/takedown? What about bags which hang off the ridgeline? Do those get left in place and packed together or fully deconstructed each time? +--- 2564764 +>>2564667 +Not really. A hammock is faster in the sense that it takes a little less time to hang a tarp, which is really nice when it’s raining, but it’s really splitting hairs. Plus it takes some practice to know how high you want everything, how tight you want your ridge line, where your hammock ends should sit relative to your tarp, etc. + +Tents are easier in the sense that anyone can figure it out and do it pretty quickly. For instance if we swapped, and I set up your tent while you set up my hammock, I’ll be done way before you because setting up moat tents doesn’t take much know how. But it would take you a bit to get my hammock right. You’d sit in it and decide it’s too low. You’d lay in it and decide the head end was too high. You’d realize it’s not centered under the tarp. And so on. + +>>2564699 +Attached bug nets stay attached; some are seen to the hammock on one side with a zipper entrance in the other. If you have a net that slips over the hammock, you can leave it on if your stuff sack is large enough to accommodated both. The bags I hang from my ridge line are bags that are used for other things (suspension, hammock double ended stuff sack), but taking them off is easy. It’s just a simple larks head, passing the bag through its own cinch cord and around the ridge line. If you have a dedicated bag for your ridge line, you can leave it on when you pack everything up. + +If you really want to save the hassle of setting up and taking down, you can get a really large snake skin that covers literally everything; quilts, hammock, bug net, pillow, the clothes you accidentally left in there… They look really convenient but they never caught on. +--- 2564807 +>>2564764 +Thanks, you have addressed all my concerns! I can imagine it'll take some practice to get the angles right for my hammock structural ridgeline. +--- 2565008 +>>2561548 +How many times did everyone clap during this? +--- 2565055 +>>2560636 +>My back doesn't like being shaped like a banana for 8 hours +p much this desu. +/thread +--- 2565067 +>>2560605 (OP) +Hammock don’t work above tree line. Hammocks suck at tree line where the trees are small and far apart where there are bushes in between said trees that are hammock height. Hammock don’t work well in proper old growth Forrest’s (PNW of North America) where the tree circumferences are massive (12’-18’) and each tree is 45’ apart. Hammocks require the same amount or more (hammock, under quilt/sleeping pad, tarp, sleeping bag, tree straps & suspension) gear than traditional sleeping systems. They’re also finicky to set up to get a flat lay. Sometimes at the end of a long day the last thing I want to do is fiddle with my whoopie slings until everything is perfect. + +I fell for it for the hammock meme for a minute. They’re nice to hang & chill in for an afternoon. But a simple tarp set up on the ground is more versatile & faster overall. +--- 2565069 +>>2565067 +Forgot to mention deserts, steppe, savanna, prairies and all of the other environments that they equally don’t work in +--- 2565077 +>>2565067 +Shoot I am in the PNW and hope I don't struggle in campgrounds. Thankfully I'll be using snakeskins to unfurl the tarp quickly and a strap system so I don't need to fiddle with knots. +--- 2565085 +>>2565067 +Jet skis suck because you need water to ride them. +--- 2565087 +>>2565067 +>>2565069 +>hammocks dont work in all the places i would never go +Based, love hammocks simple as +--- 2565096 +>>2563137 +>They don't cost much and they work fine as long as you aren't camping in heavy rain. +wind not rain. hardware store tarps rip very easily in even moderate wind gusts. +the worst part about gearfag threads are all the no-experience and also poor niggers who infest these things no matter what the niche or hobby is, posting their opinions and recommendations about things they've never used, only existing as a pitfall for beginners and someone to be filtered out as white noise by everyone else. +--- 2565098 +>>2565096 +>rip very easily in even moderate wind gusts. +--- 2565227 +>>2565087 +>I don’t go /out +--- 2565239 +>>2565227 +>west queers cannot comprehend the existence of desiduous woodland +Based, stay in your rock gardens. +--- 2565260 +>>2565096 +>someone who is just trying camping is immediately going to go out in shitty weather +>anyone who suggests a thing I don't like has no experience and has never used that thing +okay +--- 2565269 +>>2565239 +Grew up south of the Mason Dixon and east of the Mississippi. You can have it. +--- 2565290 +>>2565260 +>telling an anon who's obviously not poor and dropped $1000 to try out hammocking to buy landfill waste +>>2565098 +yes i do think a lot of anons sit on here and post opinions all day about gear they've never used. +>rip very easily in even moderate wind gusts. +everyone knows that. its common knowledge for anyone who's used one. +--- 2565324 +>>2565067 +Called it. See:>>2560632 +>The concept of the exception isn’t easily understood by people with severe autism (aka the majority of /out). That’s where the comments about deserts and being above tree line come in. Having the inability to understand the basic mindset of others, they fail to grasp that we know about the exceptions. +--- 2565355 +>>2565324 +i don't understand why its so hard for anons to grasp "not everyone lives in the same place on a international message board" or at the very least ask who they're replying to before automatically making assumptions. +i live in washington, which for those of you who don't know, my entire state consists of nothing but 'exception' situations where hammocks suck dick. washington = old growth forests, tall mountains, and desert. +if i based my opinion on hammocks based on solely my experience living in washington i'd thing they're the most useless piece of shit shelters ever. +do i sit on outdoor forums shitting on hammocks? no, but a lot of tards on this board seem to have that mentality. not that hard to grasp that if i were to live in a different part of the world hammocks would be pretty sweet. i also benefit a lot from hammockfags existing as someone who ground sleeps in a quilt a lot of the time & uses a tarp shelter. thanks for making all that kind of gear widely and cheaply available hammock bros! +--- 2565356 +>>2565290 +>anyone who says a thing I don't like is good for beginners is obviously suggesting it to an anon that I made up +>it's common knowledge that a thing I have never used does a thing I have never seen because I don't like it +lmao +--- 2565359 +>>2565356 +>an anon that I made up +the blue tarp was originally brought up when an anon who posted a $1000 list of gear asked if he fucked up or bought decent hammocking gear. +read the thread idiot. +>it's common knowledge that a thing I have never used does a thing I have never seen because I don't like it +i use hardware store tarps at work. +--- 2565360 +>is good for beginners +no it is not +spending $60 to $80 on a good tarp is what a beginner should do. +not wasting $15-30 on something that will leak after the first storm it sees. +if you want a $30 tarp buy a military surplus one. +the only value it has to a beginner is to learn basic pitches and to test out if tarp camping is for them. +--- 2565362 +if you really can't afford a silpoly tarp just buy a military surplus one lightly damaged for $20. +great opportunity for a beginner to learn how to repair their tarp before it happens in the field where you need the tarp. +--- 2565365 +>tfw spent $1200 on hammock gear and haven't even laid in one before +--- 2565386 +if you havent figured it out already most of /out/ doesn't ever go /out/. if they do it's more homeless larping than hiking. + +hammocks + a tarp are the way to go when hiking. car camping is whatever bring your giant ass air conditioned 30lb tent. +--- 2565391 +>>2565386 +Yeah, generally whenever I see someone say "hey here's this thing" and anons come out of the woodwork to sperg about how terrible it is, I assume it's just fine. Simple hammock, cheap tarp, I stay comfortable and dry no matter how much anons seethe. +--- 2565397 +>>2565391 +>Yeah, generally whenever I see someone say +>generally +>wording of your post = never used one +generally if you're inexperienced its best to lurk and listen to the opinions of people who know more than you until you have more, instead of shitting up the board by posting your opinion on gear you've never used. think and use your brain before posting. "what value does my opinion have, if i've never tried it?" this is generally good life advice not just for /out/ and if more people followed it less beginners would be given bad advice. + +>cheap tarp +cheap tarps are fine. +you're misunderstanding or strawmanning. +that's not what i'm saying. +there is a large variety of kinds of cheap tarps that exist, made of different materials. +woven PET tarps are the worst kind you can possibly choose for camping. +the very thick 10-15mm ones are acceptable for car camping but not actual camping. +you can get different kinds of tarps that are way better, and equally cheap. +--- 2565398 +you're not arguing cheap vs expensive tarp +you're arguing to buy a shittier tarp at a brick and mortar hardware store for the same price, or usually MORE expensive than buying a better cheap tarp online from a surplus place or small american/european manufacturer. +--- 2565399 +hardware store tarps are not cheap either +the 3mm and 5mm tarps can be considered cheap tarps, those are the ones that leak in a stiff breeze. +the thick ones cost more than buying a proper backpacking tarp. they're not cheaper. they're both more expensive, less durable, less water resistant, heavier, bulkier, worse by every metric at that point because they're meant to be cheap mass produced covers for lumber and job sites. most of them have snap rings in them. if you know anything about tarps it weakens the material because you're cutting a circle into it. fucking 17-25 year old zoomer retards. +--- 2565401 +>>2565391 +are you samefagging? +i have a hard time believing even /out/ is a shit enough board to have more than 1 anon who thinks a hardware store tarp is a goog idea +--- 2565483 +>>2565397 +>I know the thing I don't like will fail, even though I insist anons have never used it +>>2565401 +>More than one person who disagrees with me is unrealistic +I will continue to use a ten dollar blue tarp, it will continue to work fine, I'll continue to suggest it to newbies, and there's nothing you can do about it +--- 2565489 +>>2560605 (OP) +It's mostly just a couple of assholes who really hate it when other anons enjoy something; they seem to think they can actually gatekeep this shit by raging on a peruvian clogging forum +--- 2565518 +>>2565483 +we get it you live somewhere without weather +--- 2565541 +>>2565269 +Nobody askes +--- 2565542 +>>2565398 +>buys a better cheaper tarp at a brick and mortar hardware store +Heh, nothing personel +--- 2565543 +>>2565359 +>i use hardware store tarps at work +No you dont. Because if you did, you wouldnt think they rip at the slightest gust of wind. + +Alternatively you are just a retard and cause them to rip often by mishandling them. +--- 2565561 +I did hammocks for a while and found few use cases. +>not really rain proof +>water runs down ropes +>needs way more rope than you expect to hang properly +>wind chill is really bad +>nowhere to store gear +>nowhere to work +So straight away if you're dealing with adverse conditions you're looking at a hammock plus a tarp/hex, ground mat, drip line, bag hanger, hanging hooks, fly net etc etc. +At that point your hammock is now heavier than a regular ass backpacking tent. Some people may prefer them but I wouldn't recommend it. + +I found only thee use cases. +A. Ultralight in fair weather. +B. Snow when you've got trees +C. Swamps/jungle +I would absolutely unrecomend camping in malarial jungle or a swap, 0/10, highly unadvisable. No. But in this situation you've probably got no clear flat ground, too much rain, horrible poisonous insects, no need for a sleeping bag. + +Snow is interesting and I hadn't done it myself but apparently the main advantage is that the air under the hammock acts as a cold sink, you keep a sleeping bag dry inside the hammock and wrap a second sleeping bag over the hammock, and not needing to cut into the snow so much you're less likely to be buried alive. Can't confirm. +--- 2565580 +>>2565561 +Says +> I did hammocks for a while +Immediately outs himself as a liar or an abject retard by saying +>nowhere to store gear +>nowhere to work +--- 2565588 +>>2565561 +>water runs down ropes +consider typing drip knots +>windchill bad +use underquilt, it is just like using a sleeping bag in a tent +--- 2565589 +>>2565588 +It’s basic shit like this that puts people as liars or retards. Anyone setting up a hammock knows you need some kind of water break (like hardware that 90% of people are already using) or to tie drip lines. He also said he used rope to hang a hammock. Who uses rope and not poly straps? People who did no research at all and just went in blind (retards), or didn’t actual do it and are just making shut up (liars). +--- 2565611 +>>2565589 +nta but I bought a hammock recently and it came with rope. Consider that not everyone has your supposed experience with hammocks, and not everyone does research to determine what parts of a product should be immediately replaced. +--- 2565627 +>>2565611 +>not everyone does research to determine what parts of a product should be immediately replaced. +that's certainly true, but they certainly should. +--- 2565660 +>>2565611 +Turns out cheap gear is crap. Who would have known? +--- 2565683 +>>2565543 +This. I used an everbilt tarp for a while when I first started going /out/, got me by just fine. Now I have an aquaquest and use the blue tarp for yardwork. +--- 2566006 +>>2565085 +Basketball isn’t a real sport because you have to have some kind of hoop to play. Football is a real sport because you can do it above tree line or something. +--- 2566263 +I want to go riding long distance and wild camp the nights. +Last time I went to yurop some boomer I bumped into told me that hammocks are a revelation because of size and weight. +Basically thinking of roadside tent vs hammock situation. +--- 2566289 +>>2566263 +Nice baiku! I'm going to moto hammock camp this summer so I don't have to lug around ent poles. I don't know how I'd even use hiking poles with my ninja anyways. +--- 2566869 +I don't dislike them but half of the time I end up using mine as a bivvy and with the extra weight of the tarp and bulk of a quilt it really does end up being a zero-sum trade off between using the hammock or a tent +--- 2567294 +>>2561431 +You hang your pack off one side of the hammock. + +I like to put it on the side closest to my upper body, allowing my feet to be elevated above my heart, helping with the swelling from hiking 15-25 miles. If I want it even, ill hang my food bag on one side and my pack on the other. + +I used a hammock exclusively for 6 months on the Appalachian Trail. + +If you can't find 2 trees suitable for a hammock somewhere along a 20 mile hike through the woods you're a shortbusser. +--- 2567453 +>>2567294 +>I used a hammock exclusively for 6 months on the Appalachian Trail. +How the hell did you manage to hide and rape women in a hammock +--- 2568041 +>discussion about hammocks +>212 replies +>ctrl+f "Amok" +> 0 hits + +Jesus Christ, does no one actually go /out/side on this board? +--- 2568045 +>>2568041 + +I'd rather try a decent bridge hammock or even the meme haven hammock over that one. +--- 2568046 +>>2568041 +I hereby dub this the "banana hammock" +--- 2568047 +>>2568045 +Sorry, but you can't compete with its superior level for sleep, or ability to become a chair + +Not going for the Draumr is just a cope for poor people +--- 2568055 +>>2568046 +Too late +--- 2568074 +>>2568055 +Hint- its named after an existing piece of clothing not the fruit +--- 2568076 +>>2568074 +Yes. Dutchware understood the joke as well, and produced a hammock that looks like a banana peel. +--- 2568097 +>>2568041 +I already bought an asymmetrical gathered end hammock. Did I make a mistake? Are 90 degrees much better? +--- 2568101 +>>2568097 +I own a Hennessy Hammock Expedition Asym and it becomes a bitch without a wide sleeping mat like the winged ones from Klymit + +The Draumr has a pocket for your sleeping mat and is way more level than my asym +--- 2568116 +>>2568047 +God those things look so fucking gay +--- 2568117 +>>2568097 +No you didnt make a mistake +>>2568101 +Dont listen to this retard. Use an underquilt, not a sleeping pad +--- 2568119 +>>2568047 +>>2568041 +Seems like a whole lot of extra fuss and weight for very little gain. +--- 2568145 +>>2560655 +>I’m 6’ 1” +king of the manlets +--- 2568147 +>>2560972 +>sleeping bag +--- 2568159 +>>2560649 +>>on your side +You are of semitic origin and are engaging in disinformation +--- 2568226 +I have a nice compact hammock that takes up maybe a liter of space, it sets up easier than any tent I've ever owned, finding a spot in a forested area is beyond simple, and I enjoy sleeping on my side at 6'2 without any issues. + +They're no good for anything below 10c, but when you hit the goldilocks zone there is no comfier feeling than having the breeze blow through your mosquito net while you listen to a nearby river. + +Hammock haters need to go outside more +--- 2568418 +>>2568226 +>If you go outside more you'll like hammocks +I don't think that's how it works, anon +--- 2568423 +>>2568418 +Do you prefer sleeping on the floor at home? diff --git a/out/2560917.txt b/out/2560917.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f5ab7873be65ba920569f4b01494e8b5e2c569c3 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2560917.txt @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +----- +--- 2560917 +What's some good/outlit/ +--- 2560929 +bump +--- 2560952 +i really like Mors Kochanski´s "Bushcraft" +other then that i only have various mushroom/plant/tree identification books, and raising kids with nature in mind stuff +--- 2561064 +>>2560917 (OP) +I’ve read this, tl:dr is anything modern is garbage, do it the old fashioned way. But this book is more for extended wilderness survival rather than backpacking trips +--- 2561230 +>>2560917 (OP) +I'll try and post some of the books I've purchased on a whim, but I can't comment about the quality beyond the cursory glance I've given them +--- 2561245 +>>2560917 (OP) +>>2561230 +First and most inconsequential: General Survival guide. +Ask other anon's about their preferences and go-to's, this is just the one I bought myself. +It contains a brief glance at survival skills you might rely on in a short term survival situation, some of which will be important to your day-to-day camping and hiking. Knots are good example, which this book does have a few of, and is much more intuitive to use over searching it on your phone at a whim. +--- 2561256 +>>2560917 (OP) +>>2561245 +Slow tech: novel hand-made techniques and methods. +I most fondly remember a sections regarding extracting plant dyes; yellow/brown onions being a mainstay. Most involving simmering the onion skins and adding the clothing afterwards, another section added spinach for vibrant green colours. +Beyond that it's mainly a guide for simple /out/ recipes or ideas you can do in or away from home: +Beer (ginger/brew) +Fire/wood +Clay/ovens +Meat (meals and prep) +Stone working (flint, Drystone) +Water treatment +--- 2561257 +>>2560920 +Based. Unironically. +--- 2561267 +>>2560917 (OP) +>>2561256 +Ray Mears is a reliable source as I've heard in person and beyond. This piece serves as a nice Introduction to simple and advanced /out/ knowledge: from navigation and compass to animal tracking, knots, fires and survival miscellaneous. +--- 2561270 +>>2561267 +More Ray Mears: more advanced material and methods, including cutting tools, shelter, more knots, extreme environments and a more biographical read; involving personal experience and suggestions. +--- 2561519 +Gary Paulsen books. Alternately, My Side of the Mountain. Classics. +--- 2561750 +>>2560917 (OP) +The introduction you can just tear out and use for fire starter +--- 2562537 +>>2560917 (OP) +The entire Foxfire series is pretty good. +--- 2562566 +>>2562537 +Seconding this. +--- 2562586 +Where the red fern grows +Hatchet +Fellowship of the ring +--- 2562711 +>>2561750 +Truly one of the best /out/ recommended books I’ve read. +Also desert solitaire. +--- 2562721 +details surveying the 49th parallel in 1857, i gave this book to my grandpa who surveyed alaska for the pipeline way back when and he got a real kick out of it. +--- 2562922 +this book makes ultralightfags seethe +--- 2562924 +>>2562586 +>Where the red fern grows +yup, timeless book +--- 2562961 +>>2562711 +Reading it at the crack of dawn with some power bait on the line and fresh brewed coffee in hand is kino +--- 2563562 +>>2561064 +>do it the old fashioned way +what do you mean? trial and error? +--- 2563568 +>>2560920 +--- 2563570 +>>2560920 +>>2563568 +--- 2563607 +FM 21-76 US Army Survival Manual +--- 2563608 +>>2560917 (OP) +I recently read this and I also read his book Camping and Woodcraft. they are both great , the our southern highlands is more focus what an interesting place the smokies used to be, it makes me sad to see the strip at pigeon forge and gatlinburgh, I rather be lost in the rhododendron. His book on camping and wood craft , is a camping guide from 100 years ago but pretty much still sums up the thoughts and arguments of backpacking that I still on this board today. But the biggest difference is his gear is so different but there something to learn in learning the meta of a past day. He has work arounds for antibiotics with using different antiseptics and medicines. one of my favorite /out/ books +--- 2563665 +>>2563608 +I'll check this book out. Trying to figure out which of the versions on Amazon is the best lmao. +--- 2564058 +>>2563608 +>>2563665 +https://www.gutenberg.org/files/31709/31709-h/31709-h.htm +--- 2566209 +This a shitpoast thread +bummp +--- 2567287 +>>2566209 +Here is a real recommendation. Read picrel or A week on the Concord and Merrimack. The comfiest of comfy +--- 2567377 +my side of the mountain, truly inspirational sense childhood. diff --git a/out/2561132.txt b/out/2561132.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0777c96731136c16d462e3f895de8be2af5995e0 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2561132.txt @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +----- +--- 2561132 +>drive to "outdoor world" +>it's a building you have to go inside of +--- 2561135 +>>2561132 (OP) +It's a good place to buttfuck a boomers wife down in the cuddy cabin some of the display boats have +--- 2561139 +>>2561135 +Greentext, por favor +--- 2561142 +>>2561132 (OP) +>go to American national park +>it’s all Chinese and Indians +--- 2561143 +>>2561132 (OP) +it's not even the entire world, either +--- 2561150 +>>2561139 +>frott my cock and gargle my shit spackled balls +How's that for a green text? +--- 2561155 +>>2561150 +This. We already have obnoxious cuck fantasies spamming up the porn boards, go read them there. +--- 2561175 +>>2561135 +The only part of this I believe is that you and buttfucking are related +--- 2561211 +>>2561132 (OP) +>posts on /out/ +--- 2561232 +>>2561211 +i posted with wifi sitting in a forest +--- 2561237 +>>2561232 +are you sure +--- 2561251 +>>2561237 +it's possible tbdesu +--- 2561259 +>>2561175 +r/murderedbywords +--- 2561271 +>>2561150 +Use your words, ESL poster. I know it's hard. +--- 2561823 +>>2561132 (OP) +Ironically modern americans are some of the most /in/ people on earth living in their mcmansions and driving any and everywhere. +--- 2561867 +>>2561135 +take their daughter instead, and it becomes the cunny cabin +--- 2562173 +>>2561132 (OP) +This is like a Mitch Hedberg joke and it made me laugh, OP. +--- 2563921 +>>2561142 +You're thinking of Canada, m8 +--- 2564251 +>>2561132 (OP) +>Bass Pro +>all of the aquarium bass are amateurs +--- 2564286 +>>2561132 (OP) +>outdoor world +>it's not even the size of pluto +--- 2564431 +>>2561251 +I get into arguments on /lit/ while doing field work +--- 2564437 +>>2561132 (OP) +>trail runners +>people walk in them +--- 2564508 +>>2561132 (OP) +>Sport Utility Vehicle +>Has no utility while playing sports +--- 2564619 +>water bottle +>has no water +--- 2564682 +>>2561259 +>r/murderedbywords +Get the fuck out of here you reddit nigger. +--- 2564730 +>>2561867 +kek +--- 2564808 +>Bass Pro Shop +>Not one musical instrument in sight +--- 2564810 +>Buy Tasmanian Tiger backpack +>It´s made for humans +--- 2565040 +>bring walking stick with me to the trail +>it just fucking sits there +--- 2565049 +>>2561132 (OP) +>decline trail +>do it anyway +--- 2565587 +>buy sleeping bag +>have trouble finding sleep in it +--- 2567848 +>>2561259 +Kill yourself +--- 2567866 +>>2561132 (OP) +>mountain bike +>not even made of stone +--- 2567885 +>>2561132 (OP) +>bushcraft +>You don't actually craft a bush. +--- 2567900 +>>2565040 +Underrated +--- 2567902 +>>2565587 +You meant to say "it's wide awake" you fuckup diff --git a/out/2561242.txt b/out/2561242.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3eff98edcde47b5a9844fe9a73a4e6b1a4730067 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2561242.txt @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +----- +--- 2561242 +I've seen a few posts and videos about digging burrows or underground "habitats"/foxholes/living spaces, and I'd really like to make my own. +I remember a breif /k/ thread on the subject, but I think I'd get more on-topic and informative posts here. Preferably making a space I can sleep in and expand in future. +I'm trying to remember a few suggestions I had heard; I think it was digging soon after rain fall was better, and so on. +Any suggestions and material are welcome. +--- 2561246 +We used to have MGTOWUG threads about guys that wanted to excape from women by living underground and raising goats +--- 2561247 +>>2561246 +I should try and find those, might prove useful, apart from the escaping women part. I'd still like to talk to femoids on the odd occasion. +--- 2561290 +>>2561242 (OP) +Just start digging, king. +--- 2561294 +>>2561242 (OP) +>I remember a breif /k/ thread on the subject +--- 2561301 +>>2561242 (OP) +https://archived.moe/out/thread/993741/ +--- 2561312 +>>2561294 +I'm an old fag. What ever happened to the guy on /diy/ who legit brought an old military bunker? Lol + +Was known as bunker bro. +--- 2561323 +>>2561242 (OP) +> bucket +--- 2561327 +Search for dugout cabin on YouTube. Stick + with something like that. Tunnels can get you killed if you don't know what you're doing. +--- 2561340 +>>2561242 (OP) +I got you senpai +https://underminers.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/disco_daves_tunnelling_guide_pdf_version_kf.pdf +--- 2561405 +>>2561340 + +In the event that your headlamp dies, the glow coming off this PDF can provide more than enough light to navigate safely under almost any conditions. +--- 2561479 +>>2561242 (OP) +Have some digging music +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG3D6wgdGVQ [Embed] +--- 2561486 +>>2561242 (OP) +How do I make a chamber to hide Sadam Hussain? +--- 2561503 +>>2561486 +Entrance hidden by dirt and rubble +6ft +Air vent +Fan +--- 2561832 +>>2561247 +you will be much happier with the goats , they dont hate you just for being short +--- 2561839 +>>2561486 +The authentic version is a shitty hole in the ground. You can do better anon, give Saddam a hole worth hiding in. +--- 2562178 +Depends on the soil. Also do not listen to the whispers that tell you to dig deeper and abandon the overworld. +--- 2562294 +>>2561832 +How did you know +--- 2562305 +>>2561242 (OP) +Pic related is well worth a read. +--- 2564096 +>>2561290 +this king clearly knows which hole he prefers being inside of +--- 2564630 +>>2562294 +I am one with the goats +--- 2564663 +It's a lot harder than you think. Easier would be finding 2 downed trees parallel of each other, cutting old branches to size of roof and mudding it +https://youtu.be/VcCrU6PTz_0 [Embed] +--- 2565133 +>>2561312 +He dug too deep, very sad. +--- 2565142 +>>2561312 +probably fared better than that anon who decided to bury a bunch of containers +--- 2565347 +>>2561312 +He was issued a cease and desist for posting images of his bunker online since his country’s government had other bunkers with the same layout. Pretty sure he still posts on /diy/ sometimes but has not posted a new picture in years due to legal stuff. +--- 2568053 +>>2561242 (OP) +where's saddam hussein diff --git a/out/2561284.txt b/out/2561284.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2afe11e52acea4137e29e92e7653c1eb35023d34 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2561284.txt @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +----- +--- 2561284 +Hey guys I recently got some land and I hope to build a homestead, with most of it being my own forest and a small area to grow stuff. It's in a tropical area, it mostly looks like this right now except for a small area with the house. +I'm going to be honest here, I'm kind out of my league here and lost. How to I start clearing it? +Ignoring legal requirements, everything regarding that is already taken care of. +--- 2561286 +I have a guy that will take care of the non native trees, I'll even get some cash out of it. Then I'm thinking about using a weedwacker? +--- 2561291 +>>2561286 +>weedwhacker +What you really need is a bush hog. They’re pretty expensive but you can rent them. +--- 2561296 +>>2561291 +I don't know how to deal with the wood tho, I'll keep the trees, and cut around it, that's how I'm going to start. +--- 2561304 +>>2561296 +Bush hogging is obviously the easiest choice, or a tractor with a bush hog attachment. Although I have a neighbor that has done some of his land with just normal hand-tools and using a chainsaw to clear out low hanging branches. It's going to take a long ass time and a ton of work though. +--- 2561320 +Is this Florida? +Looks like Florida. +--- 2561452 +>>2561320 +Southeast Brazil. +>>2561304 +I found some for same, somewhat affordable, they can take care of branches too? +Also how much is a long ass time? I have the rest of my life to spend there so I don't really mind time. +--- 2562747 +>>2561284 (OP) +>Hey guys I moved into a forest now I'm going to cut it all down +ah, this thread again +--- 2562846 +>>2561284 (OP) +Depending on how much land you need to clear, you can also try using goats. The biggest investment when it comes to those guys though is the fencing to contain them and the daily maintenance if you can't be in the area every day. +--- 2562898 +>>2561291 + +Naaaah... just use goats. You'll get a thorough weedcutting job done, healthy milk and meat. Goats arent expensive at all and they chew twigs, weeds and even tree saplings. +--- 2562900 +>>2562747 +knegg ;) +--- 2563048 +Damn this looks like fun but i saw youre in brazil so fuck snakes and tarantulas +Just get like a quarter ounce of meth. Youll figure out the rest +--- 2563069 +>>2563048 +Stop being a bitch +--- 2563976 +>>2562747 +Not at all, I got 50 acres. By law I need to keep 20%, but I doubt I'll ever come close to using 10% of the land. I'm opening a 2 acre area for my house and stuff, then another 2 acres to grow stuff, and that should be it. The rest will be paths to my lake, river, areas to chill. The entire property is located inside a conservation area, I got all the permits and environmental impact reports. +>>2563048 +Met a tarantula on day one, pretty chill. There's a fuckload of snakes there but they leave when they hear me, I haven't seen one yet, just hear them leaving. +>>2562846 +I'm worried about snakes getting them :( +--- 2564001 +>>2563976 +>Clear-cuts 4 Acres for bullshit +>Clears another 2 acres worth of roads and trails +4 is 8% of 50 and you're not counting roads--you're already probably at 10% you fucking retard. +--- 2564013 +>>2564001 +I could clear cut 40 acres for bullshit. I've decided not to. Stop bitching. +--- 2564017 +>>2561304 +>bro just buy a tractor for weeds +Pure larp food +--- 2564392 +>>2564013 +>I don't actually care about the forest and would cut it down out of spite +To my zero surprise, parasite. +--- 2565219 +A mower, a weedwacker, and a chainsaw will get you most of the way there. Clearing land is fun as fuck and very satisfying. Have fun with jt +--- 2565220 +>>2564017 +You know you can rent stuff right? +--- 2565223 +>>2563976 +>The entire property is located inside a conservation area +>conservation area +>Can clear cut down 80% of it +Lol, fucking third world shitholes. +--- 2565225 +>>2561284 (OP) +au? what region +--- 2565229 +>>2564392 +>all people should live in concrete blocks as far away from nature as possible +Fuck off klaus. +--- 2565230 +>>2564392 +>american reading comprehension +--- 2565231 +>>2564013 +He’s too dumb to realize that had some one else bought it, the entire area would get turned into pasture or a subdivision. + +Don’t listen to em, he’s either got a case of sour grapes or it’s a dumb college kid hopped up armchair idealism from his fucking dorm room. +--- 2567506 +>>2561452 +Save the pine trees, get to work with a machete, anon. +--- 2567620 +Is this Atlantic rainforest? Looks like the place where I lived in northern Argentina +--- 2567621 +>>2561452 +>Southeast Brazil. +so Atlantic rainforest indeed. What the fuck OP, there's less than 15% of it remaining. Don't cut that shit + +>>2563048 +Tarantulas are cool. It's phoneutria fera and phoneutria nigriventer you need to look out for +--- 2568244 +>>2567621 +I already got the permits, engineer that did enviromental impact studies. I'm bringing down all the eucalyptus that was planted back in the day for wood, which will help the native flora. Idk why you guys are talking like I'm going to clear everything, it was me and the other two neighboring hippies (idk they seem alternative) that decided to use this land for this instead of selling it to become an airfield. +--- 2568336 +>>2568244 +How much did that land cost? +--- 2568529 +>>2568244 +That's good anon. I hope you enjoy your forest homestead. Do yourself a favor and plant a couple ubajai (idk what you call it portuguese) trees. Enjoy the most delicious fruit known to man +--- 2568550 +>>2568244 +People are going to assume the worst because they (seemingly like you) want to see the forest thrive and are all too used to the story of someone buying a plot of forest and turning it into a playground. +People think you should just buy the land and do nothing with it, as if you live for a plot of land. I understand that reality isn't so simple. Thank you for doing what you can to preserve the slice of nature you are blessed to inhabit. diff --git a/out/2561370.txt b/out/2561370.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..865d389ec4d46ca464371e9484ed9d637e399d68 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2561370.txt @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +----- +--- 2561370 +trying to do my first ever project, mapping out my local forest that stretches between two towns, any tips from fellow enthusiasts? +--- 2561372 +fyi, living in the uk we dont have any regular trail maps unless theyre big parks, so i dont have any point of reference, also i will be using itak as recommended by a friend but id love any suggestions +--- 2561398 +On the top pick notice how the branches grow to one side, all of the trees do this but hard to get a good pic? I was in a small valley and the branches only grow towards the sun because on the non branch side the light never hits due to the valley. Well it gets pretty windy in the fall and winter so those branches act like a sail and eventually twist the tree, second pic. When those branches get blown out of the sun side they die and new ones sprout up on the leading edge of the sunlight. Eventually over hundreds of years they look like the bottom pic. + +When the trees get bound up the "relax" and make a bang/pop/smack noise, it happened right in front of me once and I saw tree sawdust. Now you know where a Bigfoot Knock comes from. +--- 2561468 +>>2561398 +>Now you know where a Bigfoot Knock comes from +Its usually not just one knock. I've experienced the bigfoot knocks before and they lasted for half an hour in two directions and abruptly stopped at the same time in both directions +--- 2561572 +>>2561372 +No idea how it works in bongland, but I was able to get a basic map from my local city government. I used that and caltopo that had a lot of older and useful maps for the area (elevation, stream/ponds marked, etc). I walked the trail using my phone GPS to double check distances with the streams/ponds/elevation changes used as landmarks to map the actual trail route. Then when I got done marking all the trails on the outdated maps, I overlapped the outdated map with a newer survey map that was made recently to copy all the trails over. + +I had absolutely no idea what I was doing going in to it, as it's the first and probably last time I made a map, but it turned out mostly accurate even though the final picture was just a red line on top of endless trees with a few of the bigger landmarks just circled and written in as text. I wish I could've made it a bit more stylistic, but I'm not an artist or a map maker so I just focused on making it as accurate as I could. +--- 2562153 +>>2561370 (OP) +Get an Ipad with gps, install fieldmove, import a satellite image and you can use it as a basemap and draw maps and rock units/ trees on it as you go. The gps can get fucked up with heavy tree cover or in gullies so use your brain when marking stuff and make sure that you correlate stuff that you're marking down with stuff you can actually see. +source - I am a field geologist and create bedrock maps of the western US +--- 2562155 +>>2562153 +of course this has a barrier to entry of the cost of the ipad, but if you want I guess go out there with a compass and get good at measuring distance with your stride. try to walk in straight lines and record your bearing and how far you walked in a direction before changing directions. take notes of what you see along the way. the fieldmove method is pretty good because you can take pictures that are geotagged with your gps location so you dont have to guess where the cool pictures you take are actually from. +--- 2562746 +>>2561372 +>>2561572 +GIS data is attainable for all first world countries. +>>2562153 +Imagine spending all that time and money to map a trail that's like 5k long. +--- 2563567 +>>2562746 +I was about to mention GIS. Something I've been thinking about learning for a long time. Considering it as a possible carrier path and a hobby. I'm good with computers but also very /out/ +Any suggestions? Not OP by the way. +--- 2563661 +>>2561572 +>caltopo +this +--- 2563999 +>>2563567 +There are lots of free GIS data providers--depends where you live and what features you plan on using. It's usually better just to get maps from regional producers than to figure it all out on your own. Custom Correct, for example, has very up to date (Using GIS data) maps for Western Washington. +It's hard to get good cartography training not associated with a cartography degree outside of the military.... I think you can get some sort of certificate for GIS online though. +--- 2564479 +>>2561370 (OP) +GPS will be the most straightforward. Look into getting forecasts for best accuracy, both in available constellation and also atmospheric issues. Cheap way to fake accuracy is take the spatial average of a cluster of points for each feature you want to map. It'll be hard if you have heavy tree cover though. + +>>2563567 +>>2563999 +Take a look at the ESRI website, they occasionally offer 'MOOCs' which are free online courses where they give you access to their software. There's a cartography course being offered right now I think but it closes April12th. Other option would be using QGIS and following along with online tutorials. For data a good start is searching "County/State Open GIS Data". In the USA there's generally pretty good data availability, especially through national sources, the USGS has lots. +--- 2564483 +>>2564479 +https://www.esri.com/training/mooc/ +I'll also dump a crap load of reference links they had for one of the courses. +--- 2564488 +>>2564483 +Most of the links weren't useful turns out. Here's 3: +> https://chollinger.com/blog/2023/01/qgis-is-the-mapping-software-you-didnt-know-you-needed/ +>https://shadedrelief.com/ +>https://introduction-to-cartography-learngis.hub.arcgis.com/ +Thanks for coming to my tedtalk. Back to lurking. +--- 2566108 +>>2564479 +>>2564483 +>>2564488 +Based GIS sperg diff --git a/out/2561390.txt b/out/2561390.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8cb5089111dbb4b59ca9c68846006893f1930dad --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2561390.txt @@ -0,0 +1,250 @@ +----- +--- 2561390 +Do the benefits of nordic walking poles outweight the disadvantages of looking like a fag/senior citizen? +--- 2561392 +>>2561390 (OP) +Here's a hiking pro tip: In the woods, there are sticks everywhere. They are literally lying on the ground. +--- 2561395 +>>2561390 (OP) +as a 28 year old, with 4 hip joint breaks, shin one tome and ankle, fuck it idunno + +whatever gets you /out/ get outdoors +--- 2561411 +>>2561390 (OP) +>”Nordic walking sticks” +>immediate response about free sticks in the woods +tiresome +--- 2561413 +>>2561392 +You must enjoy pulling splinters out of your hands +--- 2561416 +>>2561413 +Do you not wear gloves while /out/ >? +--- 2561424 +>>2561416 +Do you wear gloves between April and November? Because if you do, you'll look like an even bigger dork than anyone using trekking poles. +--- 2561426 +>>2561392 +You’ve never camped more than a few days, and only in fair weather. You’re fat. You’ve never backpacked more than a few miles, and even then your focus was on camping rather than hiking. You don’t even know the difference between camping and hiking. Your feet are softer than the inside of a vagina. You think pemmican and whole potatoes are a good choice for hiking food. You don’t have a plan (probably the most important). You think pack weight isn’t important. You have no idea what you’re doing. +--- 2561526 +>>2561392 +My car payments are more than your rent +--- 2561528 +>>2561526 +Heh +--- 2561529 +if you're too concious about nordic walking poles then wait for people to find out you use 4chan +i don't use them (maybe yet) but come on, do you go /out/ constantly thinking +>holy shit if someone sees me like this then they will laugh +or do you want to enjoy nature? you go /out/ to literally not give a fuck about people, we all do. so continue, carry on doing what you want as long as you're not littering or burning down the entire forest. +>>2561416 +if it's too cold or you are building something then yes, otherwise you can as well use a fucking hazmat suit when /out/, same separation from nature, faggot. if you want to see nature and not touch it then keep on watching tv. +--- 2561576 +>>2561390 (OP) +Caring about how you look is pretty dumb anon +--- 2561578 +>>2561390 (OP) +Poles taken a significant amount of stress off your knees. This may be insignificant to you now, but in 30 years you will regret not using poles on steep trails. +--- 2561592 +>>2561526 +What kind of fag doesn't pay for his car in full? +Are you poor or something? +--- 2561606 +>>2561390 (OP) +>disadvantages of looking like a +Are you a 16 year old girl? If not, you shouldn't care. +--- 2561714 +>>2561390 (OP) +Let me think now... +>looking like a fag or a senior citizen +OR +>falling down the mountain +Hmm. +Tough choice. +--- 2561720 +>>2561426 +Pemmican is great food anon. So is rockahominy. There's a reason all outdoorsman utilized it so strongly, white and injun +--- 2561760 +>>2561390 (OP) +Honestly I‘ve never even had that thought cross my mind until I saw it here. If people see me im on a trail and im carrying a tent and walking faster than 95% of the other hikers. If they judge me they‘ll probably think im obnoxiously try-harding rather than gay and old. +--- 2561771 +Nordic? It's muhdic, newfag +--- 2561772 +Pics are today at 6400' +--- 2561774 +Poles are useful I like em +--- 2561779 +>>2561592 +I get zero percent financing. You bet I'm always going to take an interest-free loan. I can invest that money and make a nice return and pay off the loan with depreciating dollars +--- 2561781 +>>2561592 +>he thinks that its poorfag behavior to take advantage of cheap capital + +Lol +--- 2561784 +>>2561416 +I wear gloves because I live in a green hell filled with rash-causing plants and caterpillars +--- 2561802 +>>2561390 (OP) +Does wearing shoes outweigh the disadvantage of looking like a fag? +Does using an umbrella in the rain outweigh the disadvantage of looking like a fragile senior? + +Who even gets these thoughts? Sounds like insanity/madness. +--- 2561808 +>>2561720 +I love when that copy pasta strikes so close to home that you larping faggots can’t help but feel directly insulted. +--- 2561810 +>>2561802 +>Who even gets these thoughts? + +The people described in >>2561426 +--- 2562084 +>>2561390 (OP) +Yes, now stop being a /fa/ggot. +--- 2562127 +>>2562084 +colorado or california? +--- 2562132 +>>2561390 (OP) +Why do you care what people think when you're out? Such strange behaviour +--- 2562160 +>>2561426 +>he bought the fag sticks +--- 2562202 +>>2562160 + +See: >>2561808 +--- 2562203 +>>2561390 (OP) +I am a fag senior citizen though +--- 2562232 +>>2561390 (OP) +they make your ankles weak and actually increase the probability that you'll roll your ankle +--- 2562242 +>>2562232 +The only piece of equipment or gear that has ever increased the likelihood of me rolling an ankle are trailrunners. +--- 2562245 +>>2561413 +are your hands so soft and fragile that simply grasping a piece of wood will shred your palms to pulp? +--- 2562248 +>>2561526 +>pod consumer +Pathetic +--- 2562257 +>>2562245 +Anyone can get deep splinters and possible complications from them. Imagine dealing with this shit because you were afraid that someone might think you're a fag +https://www.livescience.com/65710-should-you-always-remove-splinters.html +--- 2562265 +>>2562232 +nothing makes your ankles weak permanently like repeatedly rolling them with full body weight+ like you would without walking poles. +Just do strengthening exercises and protect yourself with the poles and you'll be good +--- 2562284 +>>2561390 (OP) +Carry a rifle like a man. +--- 2562309 +>>2562257 +You should probably just stay indoors where it's safe +--- 2562311 +>>2562232 +No they don't. +--- 2562380 +>>2561413 +Do you really believe this anon +--- 2562427 +>>2562309 +>your only two options are using a stick from the ground or staying home + +>>2562380 +I had it happen just a few weeks ago so yes +--- 2562520 +>>2561808 +It doesn't matter about the copypasta, it's about the message +--- 2562533 +>>2562427 +If you're scared of splinters from every random stick, then yes, you should stay home. +--- 2562549 +>>2562127 +Up in WA actually. +--- 2562553 +>>2561390 (OP) +I do like feeling unencumbered for parts of some hikes, but using them especially when the terrain is more difficult just massively increases my endurance. Plus having 3 points of contact at all times on more treacherous sections of trail is enormously helpful. Who are you trying to look cool for in the woods anyways? +--- 2562565 +>>2562427 +Idk just don't pick up a splintery stick it's not that hard +--- 2562578 +>>2562533 +Get fucked you authoritarian freak who insists that everyone else must do things his way or not at all. You're exactly the type of person I go /out/ to get away from. + +>>2562565 +Or just buy a better one and have it for life. It's not that expensive. +--- 2563834 +>>2561390 (OP) + +Bought some for helping me get through some ankle issues. Got through the issues with them and I'd never go back. Crossing rivers is way better, checking that you're about to stand on solid ground is awesome when you're in terrain that can have all sorts of holes and crumbly soft stuff. Pointing at stuff with your poles is awesome. Slippery ground, going down hill, going up hill. I use them help prop up my tarp when I make camp. The benefits go on and on and on, why the hell do we walk on two legs its shit. + +Only downside is carrying a rifle with them isn't all that great. +--- 2563860 +>>2561390 (OP) +Yes. For some people they mught not outweigh the drawbacks, but this isn't a situation where form should rival function +--- 2563895 +If you look like a fag with poles, then losing the poles isn't going to help you. +Stay in the Bay, faggets +--- 2564215 +>>2561771 +Ive just vicariously saved all your images. Curious as to where this is +--- 2564234 +>>2564215 +Northern end of the Crystal Range in the Eldorado Natl forest. +--- 2564595 +>>2561390 (OP) +>Do the benefits of nordic walking poles outweight the disadvantages of looking like a fag/senior citizen? +only if you're using a trekking pole design tent. +if you think about it, its just a multi functional tent pole and free weight. +--- 2564596 +>>2561392 +>pro +>there are sticks everywhere +anon are you retarded? +there are entire biomes without a single tree. +--- 2564598 +>>2562565 +there is no excuse other than poorfaggotry or laziness to not either buy a good stick (which comes with a lot of upsides like lighter weight and collapsibility so you can climb with them) or at least select a good stick out in the woods, bring it home, give it some finishing and keep it. +--- 2564599 +in what retard's world does it make sense to spend a half hour finding a decent stick every time i go hiking? why would i not just buy a stick at that point? i go hiking all the time. that adds up to a lot of wasted time i could be on the trail. sticks also don't exist in half of my state. +--- 2565011 +>>2561390 (OP) +So what's the point of walking poles at all other than for checking snow depth? Genuinely curious, I find them to be a hinderance in rough terrain and in particular thick bush. Maybe I'm just using them incorrectly and have yet to see the light. +--- 2565038 +>>2565011 +They're good for balance and stability when crossing streams and descending slopes down to waterfall bases. They take pressure off your knees on steep descents and are also useful on inclines. They help you look out for rattlers when you're hiking through grassy or bushy areas. And some people use them as poles for makeshift, lightweight shelters. +--- 2567423 +>>2561390 (OP) +Poles are poles. Use them when overloaded to save your back. + +Staves are for the poor. They're much more versatile. + +I went traipsing around uninhabited private land once. So hilly I had to cut a sapling for a staff to get back out. + +Still have the staff. +--- 2567455 +>>2561390 (OP) +Hiking pole tents have turned poles into net 0 downside gear addition. +You can even have a base setup. Using a single pole tent at camp, and taking the spare for walkabouts. +--- 2567474 +>>2561526 +>I make bad financial decisions +this one's the funniest to me +--- 2567476 +>>2561779 +or you could purchase a car you can afford, which you did not because you had to borrow the money on a depreciating asset +you are not a financially smart person, you're someone who couldn't afford to purchase a car +--- 2567478 +>>2561781 +>he thinks having to borrow money means he's good with money +good goy +--- 2568183 +>>2564598 +you shouldn't be outside without a bush axe anyway. +--- 2568520 +>>2562232 +imagine being so frail that walking in the woods is dangerous. Sad! diff --git a/out/2561476.txt b/out/2561476.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..cc00bb82c4f14718828ed12d21150ca81731f51c --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2561476.txt @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +----- +--- 2561476 +Snow puff +--- 2561478 +Unironically the best thread of the whole board. Does it tell more about the thread or the board, that i dare not throw speculations about. +--- 2561583 +I fucking love nature +--- 2561599 +me and the boys after the last polar plunge of the year +--- 2561600 +>>2561476 (OP) +A thread died for this shit post... +--- 2561611 +stay puffed lil ice nigga +--- 2561676 +>>2561600 +Oh yeah a thread about boots died for a decent picture of a snow hare. Such a major loss. +--- 2562346 +>>2561676 +>>>/an/ is more appropriate for this thread +--- 2562364 +I fucking love science. +--- 2562399 +>>2562346 +Now it's /out/ +--- 2562406 +>>2562399 +Are they tasty? +--- 2562411 +snow puff +--- 2562502 +>>2561476 (OP) +cute! + +>>2562399 +>internet screenshots are more /out/ than oiutdoors OC +i hate nu-/out/ists so much +--- 2562571 +>>2561476 (OP) +bnuuy + +>>2562399 +chonk bnuuy +--- 2563650 +>>2562399 +How would you even see that thing on the tundra? +--- 2563654 +>>2562406 +compared to what would be the easier guestion +--- 2563655 +>>2563650 +carefully + +>>2562406 +no idea, maybe? they are ought to be fattier than normal bunnies +--- 2563658 +>>2563654 +>>2563655 +I'd eat one. +--- 2563666 +>>2563658 +honestly i dont even remember how hare stew tastes like and i just saw 2 of them going by my window an hour ago +--- 2563698 +>>2561476 (OP) +im wearing a hoodie made out of these guys right now +--- 2563909 +>>2561478 +>t***** ruins the thread immediately +--- 2564104 +land sea bunny +--- 2566212 +>>2561611 +it's icigga +--- 2566520 +>>2562399 +NOOOOOOO NOT THE SNOWY PUFFERINO diff --git a/out/2561551.txt b/out/2561551.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..cef0e5678b9443da7046d936e3ae7bcf0be00cfb --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2561551.txt @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +----- +--- 2561551 +Is this jade, /out/ ? +--- 2561554 +>>2561551 (OP) +Nobody can say from a picture, but if you have to ask, the answer is no. If you really want to be certain that I'm right, you should do a specific gravity test. I'm assuming youre hoping this is nephrite? +--- 2561556 +>>2561551 (OP) +I should also add that nephrite is translucent, so if you shine a flashlight on it in the dark, you should be able to see the light permeating the stone. Just from this rocks appearance, I would say it does not appear to have translucence. +--- 2561557 +>>2561554 +I dont know much about jade, but nephrite would be my guess too. +--- 2561559 +No. That's a rock. +--- 2561560 +>>2561556 +It is translucent, you just dont see on the picture. +--- 2561561 +Here is some real nephrite I collected last year +--- 2561566 +>>2561561 +If my rock had a smooth surface it would look like yours i think. +It is quite rough. +Where did you find that? +--- 2561569 +>>2561566 +I disagree, I think your stone is an ultramafic rock. Do a specific gravity test and report back. Also put a magnet on it. Is it magnetic? +--- 2561591 +>>2561569 +It is magnetic. +--- 2561601 +>>2561591 +Then it ain't jade +--- 2562450 +>>2561551 (OP) +That looks like some sort of pegmatite to me + +Check out this emerald I found in some feldspar and quartz +--- 2563768 +>>2562450 +noice +--- 2563772 +>>2562450 +Pegmatite ass +--- 2563784 +>>2561551 (OP) +that's a cannonball from blackbeard's ship. I would urge you to put it down but I'm afraid it's too late... you're cursed now. +--- 2563789 +>>2561551 (OP) +not sure honestly but i did get this from a smoke shop today and I dont think they realized they just handed me free money i did a bit of sanding to see the color +--- 2563849 +>>2561551 (OP) +No it isn't. + +Jade looks like its all melted like a very dense glass. And you cannot scratch it with the end of your knife. +--- 2563873 +>>2563789 +This looks like a low quality opal or perhaps just not polished +--- 2563973 +>>2563789 +labradorite. not rare, but pretty +--- 2564051 +>>2563973 +>labradorite +cool, is it worth anything in the gem market? +--- 2564294 +>>2563789 +hmmmm +--- 2564650 +>>2564051 +not very much +--- 2565134 +>>2561551 (OP) +that's a green diamond. +Holy shit don't tell anyone about this. +Or they'll rob u +--- 2565670 +> be me +> hiking in California +> find a green glassy rock +> 8-10 pounds +> neat +> think man this would make fantastic flints for my flintlock because it flakes so nicely and sparks on steel +> start napping down the rock a piece at a time +> sell a fuck ton of flints out to other mountain man reenactors. +> geologist bro visits +> talk about churt and flint +> bring up my green rock +> what green rock? +> show geo bro and geo bro nearly has a heart attack, stroke and cancer all atbthe same time. +> turns out my 10 pound hunk of jade was worth some $250-500 bucks. + +Oh well. +--- 2565866 +>>2565670 +That wasn't jade retard. California jade is nephrite, aka one of the toughest natural materials on earth. You couldn't flake it, even with a sledgehammer. +--- 2566030 +>>2565670 +> it flakes so nicely +Nephrite jade is literally impossible to flake +--- 2566061 +>>2565866 + +What a fucking weird fantasy to make up, even had an imaginary geologist. +--- 2566065 +>>2566030 +Since we're on the topic of serpentine +--- 2566173 +>>2566061 +>Cali Anon +Ahh that explains it +--- 2566623 +>>2566065 +Aye I found a big ass boulder of dat one time +--- 2566757 +>>2566623 +We have some large formations on a property I frequent, I'll have to snag pics for you guys one day. +--- 2566769 +Once a man of Ch'u, named Pien Ho, came by an uncut jade in the Ch'u Hills. He brought it home and submitted it as a present to King Wu. Thereupon King Wu had a jeweller give an opinion of it. "It is an ordinary stone," said the jeweller. The King, regarding Ho as a liar, had his left foot cut off. Upon King Wu's death, King Wên ascended the throne, when Ho again submitted it as a present to King Wên. King Wên also had a jeweller give an opinion of it. Again he said, "It is an ordinary stone." The King, also regarding Ho as a liar, had his right foot cut off. When King Wên died and King Ch'êng ascended the throne, Ho, carrying the uncut jade in his arms, cried at the foot of the Ching Hills. After three days and three nights his tears were all exhausted and blood flowed out. At this news the King sent men out to ask him the reason, saying, "Throughout All-under-Heaven men whose feet were cut off are many. Why should you be crying so bitterly?" "I am lamenting not the loss of my feet," said Ho in reply, "but for the calling a precious gem an ordinary stone and for their dubbing an honest man a liar. This is the reason why I am lamenting." Meanwhile, the King had a jeweller polish up the jade and got the treasure out at last. So it was designated "the Jade of Pien Ho" +--- 2568225 +obsidian nuggets +still need to tumble or something diff --git a/out/2561638.txt b/out/2561638.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..493e285836422366645c356b16a35500b9e13c45 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2561638.txt @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +----- +--- 2561638 +If you where ever going to inhabit uninhabited places where would you pick, what are places you can survive without government interference, good resources to live, ok climate and such. What places would /out pick +--- 2561639 +>>2561638 (OP) +portlock +--- 2561641 +>>2561639 +In Alaska? +--- 2561643 +>>2561641 +ja, that or headless valley, think that's in nw territory +--- 2561644 +>>2561643 +Canada or Alaska would be ok desu, since it's so vastly populated +--- 2561909 +>>2561644 +you mean sparsely populated? +--- 2561969 +>>2561638 (OP) +The PNW +--- 2561978 +>>2561641 +No, you can only take three deer a year. +No, you have to enter a state lottery to even get al oicense to get a mountain goat. +No, you can only take 25 Silverbacks a year. + +Don't think that you are unregulated because you are in Alaska, chud. +--- 2561998 +>>2561978 +return to /pol/, stay boy +--- 2562002 +>>2561998 +It's true, there are regulations and some are really cutting into your daily life. +I don't think there are places left where anyone can simply live off the land legally. +--- 2562013 +>>2562002 +This makes me so sad +--- 2562015 +>>2562013 +Don't cry anon, in less than 200 years there will be no meaningful life in the oceans, all mammals larger than a rat are dead and insect population has been reduced by 90%. At the same time the shareholder value will go up. + +Born to early to roam the galaxy, to late to be truly free. +--- 2562043 +>>2561638 (OP) +Somewhere in the Pacific Islands. Micronesia, probably +--- 2562047 +>>2561969 +>Mima Mounds +>uninhabited area +kek, it's like a 30 min drive from the state capital, I mean it's rural and there's a lot of /out/ out there, but it's pretty much a mix of farmland, low density industrial/commercial with a wide swings of redneck trailer clusters and gentrified estates. +--- 2562063 +>>2562047 +I misunderstood. I thought it was if you could turn an area into an uninhabited place, what would you pick. +--- 2562183 +>>2562043 +Not allowed to just build a shack an live off the land. You have to be owner of the land and native and you have to have a building permit that proves how you deal with fecal matter and so on. + +There no truly free places anymore, don't kid yourselves, guys. The dream is over. +--- 2562263 +>>2561638 (OP) +That place is St Kilda and I would recognize it everywhere because I've played Dear Esther +--- 2562264 +>>2562183 +>if you were +autists and sub90 IQs that can't into conditional hypotheticals, need to leave +--- 2563181 +>>2562263 +Saint Kilda island in Scotland? People used to live there now it's all gone +--- 2563184 +Anyone ever been to Taiga here? +--- 2563412 +>>2561638 (OP) +That's St Kilda, there's a MOD submarine base and few land keepers living on it +--- 2565549 +>>2561638 (OP) +>without government interference +lol k +--- 2565592 +>>2563184 +I live in the taiga +--- 2565599 +>>2565592 +Wow Anon. You Russian? Do you live in a small town thing? Do you think there will ever be tourism in there? +--- 2565661 +>>2565599 +I am Finnish and i live in a town of 10 000. I do not know if that counts as a small town thing. +--- 2565673 +Northern Mongolia +--- 2565690 +>>2562015 +yeah, well, i'm gonna need a source for that +--- 2565699 +>>2561638 (OP) +Central Idaho +--- 2565702 +>>2565690 +Kek. Go outside. +--- 2565904 +>>2565673 +>you will be totally alone +Every free area has cut grass, it's a cultured landscape. +--- 2565920 +>>2561638 (OP) +The whole "without gubberment interference" thing is gonna be impossible, but if you can swing it, any large tropical island is your best bet. The hardest thing about this will be gaining the trust of the locals because if you don't you'll be dead quick. diff --git a/out/2561674.txt b/out/2561674.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8728d6f947015ce5c5c87377e6fc4520bfd49d7c --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2561674.txt @@ -0,0 +1,131 @@ +----- +--- 2561674 +my NU20 is not cutting it anymore. need something with a bit more punch for the fog and runtime. +what are you using? recc stuff to other anons itt +--- 2561691 +>>2561674 (OP) +Real men carry triple d cell mag lights running. +--- 2561693 +Nitecore sucks cock +>”Please refer all questions to our manufacturers in China..” +--- 2561699 +>>2561693 +yeah another reason I'm ditching it. Button is way too small to activate with gloves on too +--- 2561702 +>>2561674 (OP) +Just get a Zebralight anon.. +--- 2561704 +>>2561702 +>Zebralight +which one +--- 2561705 +>>2561704 +That's the joy of zebralights. I'll try to find my guide for you +--- 2561706 +>>2561705 +I did find this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WRnPsoYXE9oYKMievC1NOWQyrvSVk8HxkkEMBjAPo_s/edit?usp=sharing +--- 2561707 +>>2561706 +I think this is something like I used. Basically you just need to choose battery, color, and flood level (whatever it's called can't think of it). +--- 2561708 +>>2561707 +--- 2562543 +>>2561674 (OP) +NU20 is great, I'm going to pick up a handful of them to stuff some prep kits when they come out with the usb c refresh. You can't do better for the weight and water resistance, obviously it's not a general use light. +--- 2562545 +>>2561674 (OP) +NU33. +--- 2562828 +>>2561674 (OP) +Petzl and Zebralight +They last for 20+ years. My oldest is 15 years old. + +nigcore is trash. +--- 2562832 +>>2561704 +You want the flood and warmth for trail illumination. so a "fd". H600Fd. The H604d has maybe too much flood and doesnt shine as far. Also buy a 18650 batterie that you can charge via USB. +--- 2562929 +>>2562828 +The petzl actik intrigues me for the rechargeable battery. The Nitecore nu25 has been great though. Light, good power, reasonable life and cheeeeap. +--- 2562931 +i bought some piece of shit off aliexpress for $8. works, probably wont when I need it most but thats a problem for another day +--- 2562966 +>>2561674 (OP) +Any recommendations for a headlamp that works with AAA batteries and has a red light in addition to white light? Earth tone colours or just black for the headband etc would be great. +--- 2563030 +>>2562931 +some aliexpress pieces of shit are really good anon. some examples: +nitecore and fenix = same quality as MITUSA lights +thrunite = close to western brand quality & ahead of all the western brands on specs/tech right now +convoy = best poorfag flashlights in existence, used to be even cheaper but /g/ and reddit memed them leading to price hikes +--- 2563033 +>>2561674 (OP) (OP) +>a bit more punch for the fog +it doesn't work that way anon. +a brighter light will have even less visibility in fog because it reflects more of the fog back at you. +that's why when you're driving a car and it gets foggy you're supposed to turn OFF your high beams and activate your fog lights, which are low mounted and even dimmer than your low beams. + +for a flashlight good in fog the features you want to look for are: +- warm light color. cool light scatters more. +- a headlamp with a mode that has a bit less lumens, than whatever mode on the nitecore is blinding you. +- something easy to take off and hold in your hand. tube ones are nice but anything without an annoying to use headband works. +and also just try just using the medium or low setting if you're blasting high or extra high mode into fog with the nitecore anon. it should be a pretty ideal headlamp for fog. +also your nitecore has usb pass through, you can make its battery last days by plugging it into a battery bank. when you do that it just skips the internal battery instead of charging it so you get 100% efficiency. nitecore and anker make the best battery banks IME if you don't have one. but any solid looking chinkshit is fine. +anyways petzl invented the modern headlamp, they're made in france, and they still make the best headlamp for everything except really specialty stuff you'd want a $1000 helmet mount light for like overhead environment diving imo. i'll shill them. +>>2562966 +zebralight has the best aaa lights. petzl actik is good and does all that too. +--- 2563037 +>>2562828 +the only problem with zebralight is they're only worth buying in america. +their overseas shipping is either very expensive or not offered and they have bad customer support if you're not domestic. if you live in america they have pretty decent customer support. +also zebralight is made in china. if you've ever had to send one back they make you send it to china not texas. look it up. its an american company but not MITUSA. +they're really good flashlights imo 2nd best brand in terms of dependability but don't be mistaken they're chinese lights look it up. + +general advice: petzl is the best for eurofags. petzl and zebralight for americans. the big chink brands are good too, saying they're not these days = clueless. proof being you guys all like zebralight l0l. +--- 2565123 +>>2563033 +>>2563037 +Oh okay, so Petzl is the way to go then it seems. I am Finnish so I guess I should have mentioned that as well. How well do the Petzls withstand moisture? Also I assume that petzls have decent helmet mounts available? +--- 2565138 +>>2565123 +waterproofing varies model to model with their headlamps. +what kind of helmet? they do sell mounts for various types of helmets but make sure before you buy and check compatibility. +what's your use case? if you're using it for specialized stuff like diving, caving, etc let me know, you want different lights for some of those things and what brands are good changes a lot. +--- 2565140 +>>2565138 +Well, it would go on a bicycle helmet not really for /out/ing, but I commute all around the year with my bicycle. +The red light and a possibility for low lumen setting is something that I'd want for night trekking and weekend warrior larping as a reservist. +I was thinking of a sort of a multi use headlamp for all purposes. I guess it doesn't need to be too specialized. +--- 2565145 +>>2565140 +they only have 2 lamps with bike helmet compatibility and they're $350/750 huge boi ones. you might wanna ask some cyclingfags what they use, i know a lot of people just stretch a normal lamp over their helmet, but i don't know much about lamps that actually mount -> generic cycling helmets. +--- 2565146 +if you want a general all rounder i know a lot of helmet mount lights use external battery packs, which are kind of counter intuitive to a general use light, so keep that in mind when researching. +--- 2565156 +>>2565140 +Having commuted for 6 years on a bike, strapping lights to the bike itself is the better option. Light on the head can be useful but part of a light's job is alerting cars to you and a bright headlamp/back light does that better. Plus a lot easier to get a significantly brighter light and no worries about making something working on your helmet. +--- 2565168 +>>2561707 +>>2561708 +autismo.jpg +--- 2565170 +>>2563037 +by the way: non-americans shouldnt buy american prodcuts +--- 2565213 +>>2561704 +I like my h600Fc 4000k. Its like a smooth even wall of light in front of me. Having the frosted lens with the reflector -kinda- center weights the flood effect, but its a very smooth transition from the center to the perimeter of the beam. Very wide, but on the highest setting it still punches out 50+ meters in front of me. No slouch, but it does get very hot very quickly at that setting. The lower-medium setting is good for walking around cleared areas/trails with good illumination to about 10-15m depending on ambient light levels. The medium high setting is great for walking around in the open. Literally my only complaint is that the single click on always turns it to high. Mode memory would be great, but at least the UI lets you click-and-hold to start at low and cycle upward in output from off. Tailcap lockout works great when in my bag. I like it so much I bought a second for use while working. Glued a magnet to the tailcap to make it a bit more versatile. If you need more throw, get the non frosted lens version, the H600C, and put a layer of matte scotch tape over the lens to get a similar diffusing effect that you can peel off when you need to. +--- 2565716 +>>2561704 +I have one that looks real similar, sofrin SP40, bright, cool and all and it stopped working. I really like the form factor, but I am never spending over 20 dollars on a headlamp again. If its anything more for a candling device, it'll be for a massive flashlight that has no settings, only an an on-off switch +--- 2566481 +>>2565156 +I would rather keep my bicycle as bare as possible because I will forget the light on it and then a junkie will steal it from me. I work with them on daily basis and they will steal anything. +>>2565145 +>>2565146 +I have a skateboarding helmet because I hate cycling fags and their attire. I figure I could attach a construction mount on it with double sided tape. I will find an other mean of lighting up my commutes if petzl is not the way. The other two usages were for trekking at night and weekend warrior larp as a reservist. So, the AAA compatibility is more important (the military gives us as many batteries as we need for our devices, as long as they are in AA/AAA). That's also why I'd want the red light and low lumen outputs and decent waterproof rating. +--- 2566484 +>>2562828 +seconding Petzl. I use the Tikka, wich can be either used with three AAA or a rechargeble battery. I do regret not getting the Tactikka wich comes with a red light, i might have to grab one of those sooner or later. +--- 2566498 +>>2565170 +American stuff is generally good, but it's expensive in Europe and sometimes it's overengineered because they put their heart and soul into it, even if it's just a simple slingshot for instance. That's no bad thing though. diff --git a/out/2561753.txt b/out/2561753.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..792015e0ba2fc9ba277bcd982f7102e3ab351236 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2561753.txt @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +----- +--- 2561753 +I was out hiking in the woods, but as a avid explorer I don’t take the trail and go off the beaten path strait through the forest, up until I found this strange object tied to a tree with a steel cable, can anyone identify it? +--- 2561756 +>>2561753 (OP) +looks familiar... +open it +--- 2561764 +I can try +--- 2561766 +flood sensor? +--- 2561767 +Maybe, the area isn’t too prone to flooding, this is in the black forest in Germany +--- 2561812 +>>2561753 (OP) +Could be a deer scent, like a scrape dropper or something. They have some kind of pheromone or pee in them that attracts deer, and a lot of them only release during the daytime (not sure how). I’ve never seen one shaped like this, but it could be. +--- 2561827 +>>2561753 (OP) +geocache +--- 2562744 +>>2561753 (OP) +>doesn't post the part number embossed on the end. +You suck at life. +>>2561767 +Delete yourself. +--- 2562792 +>>2561753 (OP) +its bait. don't reply. +--- 2562812 +>>2561753 (OP) +this could be a trap +--- 2562814 +>>2562792 +I want to know what it is tho, even if OP's post is fake. +--- 2562821 +>>2562814 +it's bait, literally dimwit. +--- 2562867 +>>2561753 (OP) +Garloid carrier. You should check it to see if someone abandoned one. +--- 2563228 +>>2561753 (OP) +it's my peanus weanus of course! +--- 2563233 +>>2561753 (OP) +scented bait to attact wildlife. +--- 2563559 +its an easter egg that went bad so it was tied to a tree +--- 2563560 +>>2561767 +What is this shit? Generating a response? +--- 2564712 +Cyanide bomb laid by the US forestry service to combat predator overpopulation in the area. Don't fucking touch it! +--- 2564715 +>>2563560 +leftover from april fools. +--- 2566888 +>>2563560 +It's a bot. Don't respond to it. +--- 2566937 +>>2563560 +It was this April Fools "joke" that 4chan diff --git a/out/2561911.txt b/out/2561911.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4904e256313e4a96d8a5423a6563b9c178a5e8a5 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2561911.txt @@ -0,0 +1,191 @@ +----- +--- 2561911 +Any bird watchers here? This isn't my usual board I just wanted to see if anybody wanted to talk about birds. Pic related is a heron at my local park. I don't have a good camera so I took a pic with my phone through some cheap binoculars. For some reason I can't get it to not post sideways. +--- 2561914 +>>2561911 (OP) +>For some reason I can't get it to not post sideways. +>right click on image +>Properties +>Details +>Remove properties and personal information +>Create copy with all possible properties removed +>Ok +>post copied image +4chan doesnt post Exif data anymore but will still use the Exif properties +--- 2561937 +>>2561914 +>4chan doesnt post Exif data anymore + +Fucking gayyy. +--- 2561947 +>>2561937 +Haven't for years, nobody wants to be doxxed for posting a photo here. +--- 2563085 +https://youtu.be/JwJr9Rniofc [Embed] +--- 2563090 +>>2561911 (OP) +I would love to do it but professional cameras are expensive, so I just photograph animals and plants within my reach and post them on inaturalist to archive them and get help with identifications. +The birds I photograph are usually either dead or blurry and distant. +--- 2563108 +Yeah birds are cool, I should go out more often and need a larger lense. I use a 55-300 now +--- 2563116 +>>2561911 (OP) +This time of year is prime birdwatching season for me. Spring migration is in full effect and there are large wildlife preserves near me with ponds and relatively dry walking paths. I'm hoping to finally see and photograph a wood duck this year. Most larger birds (eagles, ospreys, hawks, herons, egrets) are kind of meh to me now. And Canadian geese are the absolute worst. +>HONK HONK HONK +--- 2563193 +>>2561911 (OP) +I enjoy bird watching. Eastern Phoebes are nesting on the side of my house and it's really cool to watch them build their nest. When I'm off work I like to watch the Chickadees, bluebirds, and gold finches that come to my bird feeder. +--- 2563304 +>>2561911 (OP) +Sure, I enjoy watching birds. Not to the point of taking pictures of them and learning names, but I like them. +I have a uncanny ability of finding dead birds though. +--- 2563307 +>>2561947 +[[[THEY]]] can still see your metadata +--- 2563361 +Used to do it a ton as a kid. I could identify basically every species of bird in my area way back in middle school. Im not nearly as hardcore about it now, but I like to watch them sometimes while I'm hiking or something. Every spring and fall when I go fishing at the river I always see tons of kingfishers there with the same idea as me. Maybe I'll take some pictures of my own from now on. +--- 2564129 +>>2561911 (OP) +dont take pictures but love bird watching. Always exciting to see something uncommon. Saw a large flock of cedar waxwings at a local park and hearing a brown-headed cowbird for the first time is quite special! +--- 2564132 +>>2561947 +>ugly fat brown people don't want to be doxxed +It's always been that way +--- 2564229 +>>2561911 (OP) +Fucking hate these things. Shoot at least 20 a year +--- 2564602 +>>2561911 (OP) +Screenshot image, crop, and post. +I wish I knew more about birds. I even got a peterson california bird book. I took some with a canon with super zoom (best way to "get close" without spooking.) +--- 2564632 +>>2564602 +Funny looking turkey there, bub. What's it taste like? +--- 2564637 +>>2564632 +I think its a vulture. These guys are my garbage disposals when I kill squirrels. I leave squirrel on tree of sacrifice and they clean em up. + +Heres a photo of a I believe this is a Red Breasted Sap Sucker +--- 2564638 +>>2564637 +>>2564632 +You are right.. Turkey Vulture. +--- 2564646 +>>2564638 +So what's it taste like? +--- 2564824 +Just got back from the park. Saw some Canadian geese, red-winged blackbirds, Bluejays, mocking birds, a great blue heron, and a pied-billed grebe. The grebe was really exciting cause I had no idea what the funky little duck was. He was swimming underwater to get away from me just to pop up on the other side of the lake. Here is a picture of a mallard with what I belive to be a domestic mallard. It was brown and white, slightly larger, and a lot braver than the other ducks there. Thank you for subscribing to my blog +--- 2564831 +>>2561911 (OP) +I don't know much about birds other than I like seeing them while out. I use a phone app called 'Merlin' to help me ID birds. Saw a Pileated Woodpecker on a hike yesterday, was too busy staring at it to take a picture. +One thing I'd suggest to anons with cameras, try taking the pictures anyways, even if you just have the kit lens for your camera, you might be able to crop your way to an okay picture! +--- 2565114 +>>2561911 (OP) +Went out yesterday to spot bluebreasts. Had quite a lot of fun. Also saw a white tailed eagle fly over. +--- 2565211 +>>2561914 +>4chan doesnt post Exif data anymore but will still use the Exif properties +>>>/p/ +--- 2566113 +>>2561914 +>Still uses exif properties +no it doesn't +4chan logs the data, removes it and posts the image as is. +--- 2566115 +>>2565211 +calm down Jill. +--- 2566531 +>>2561911 (OP) +I saw a Great Horned Owl for the first time last week. It landed in the grass beside the road when I was driving. It was so big I thought it was a goose when it landed. +--- 2566532 +>>2563090 +is that poison? +--- 2566533 +>>2563090 +Not a bird +--- 2566655 +>>2561911 (OP) +Herons are neat. I see them flying all the time. +At night they are like mini stealth bombers. +--- 2566660 +>>2566655 +Yeah, they're fairly common. Just saw one the other day. +--- 2566672 +>>2564229 +Why do you "hate" them? WHats the point of letting them bother you so much that you feel compelled to kill them? Do you have other issues? +--- 2566673 +>>2561911 (OP) +the older and wiser I get the more Im into birds. Takes patience and focus to really notice how many different ones there are. +--- 2566738 +>>2566532 +Yes but only if ingested +--- 2566740 +>>2566655 +>>2566660 +--- 2566742 +>>2566672 +Some anglers use herons as scapegoats for fish decline +--- 2566775 +Today I saw 3 soras and some white ibis. Not pic related obviously +>>2566742 +Lmao that's rancher-coyote tier retardation +--- 2566793 +>>2561911 (OP) +Went down to the lake yesterday and saw two herons performing a mating ritual. Any suggestions on an upgrade from my phone camera? +--- 2566794 +>>2566793 +Better photo of one of them +--- 2566858 +>>2566672 +>>2566742 +They clean out trout. And they're assholes too. We basically have pet trout in our dammed up crick. I've seen them peck and kill lots of trout and they never eat it. It rots. Or you'll have 50 trout and you'll have 20 in your area and there will be 5 trout left if you're lucky. We have 24/7 cameras on our trout. They clean out cricks. Endangered my ass. +--- 2566986 +>>2561911 (OP) +how do you call this thing? +--- 2567166 +>>2566858 +>cut off trouts' escape routes +>blame predators for taking the easy meal you offered them +--- 2567168 +>>2566858 +>We basically have pet trout in our dammed up crick. +>because im a retard im gonna kill wild animals because my small brain thinks they are "assholes" + +Please dont reproduce. +--- 2567191 +>>2566858 +The entire reason wild trout are rare in most areas and they have to stock trout for sport fishing is because of dams, and overfishing by humans. trout aren't even common prey for birds because they live in current. birds like that usually prefer stillwater shallows. +--- 2567217 +Lots of birds where I live. Great Blue Herons, Green Herons, American Bitterns, Least Bitterns, Wild Turkeys, you name it. I need to buy a cheap tripod and mounting system so I can attach my phone camera to my binoculars and get some pictures. I live right beside some wetland and ponds and I watch them hunt as I fish in my kayak. I always try to take videos with just my phone camera but it comes out shit since they're so far away. +--- 2567562 +Off the Mississippi coast +--- 2567566 +>>2567562 +Moments before +--- 2567646 +>>2567166 +>>2567168 +>>2567191 +We have natives, go to any crick and you will see falls and natural dams. Trout can easily jump up stream to spawn into the dam and above the dam where there is obviously no blockage retards +--- 2567894 +>>2564602 +I saw a bird that looked very similar to that years ago but I've never been able to work out what it is. Does anyone what species looks like that but lives around Brisbane, Australia? It's been annoying me for years. +--- 2567896 +>>2567894 +I should contribute more to the thread. Here's an Australasian Darter. +--- 2567898 +>>2567896 +Royal Spoonbill. +--- 2568104 +>>2567898 +nice shot +--- 2568532 +It's the best time for birding in my area. Spring migration, birds changing into their breeding plumage, and the trees are still bare enough to see gems like this Great Horned Owlet. Pic is from last year but I've found two nests with owlets this year as well. +--- 2568538 +>>2567646 +most creeks, lakes, ect are not natural to start with. probably made around the 60s or 70s by the core of engineers. +--- 2568539 +>>2567894 +somehow a vulture got to australia or you saw a bird that is thought to be extinct. +--- 2568547 +Caught pic rel on my evening walk the other day. diff --git a/out/2562027.txt b/out/2562027.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b9d6c2fce3b9cf65821ae63cfa2b15280c7410a3 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2562027.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1100 @@ +----- +--- 2562027 +Seems like even if you live in an apartment and aren't necessarily a construction worker that has to use the bed everyday. They work as the best platform to sleep, haul a bike, campfire wood, and a cooler of ice cold beer. Plus they do great for 98% of off roading that'll get you outside. +--- 2562030 +>>2562027 (OP) +Yes, or a large SUV like a 4 runner. I just sold my 2019 Charger Scat Pack and got a 2023 Toyota Tundra Platinum, pic rel. I love it. +--- 2562038 +>>2562030 +He went full retard. + +Well actually... Probably won't own if for more then 4 years anyway.. so guess repairs don't mean shit. + +>>2562027 (OP) +No... Whatever is decent on the highway power wise. And whatever gets the best mileage... +--- 2562048 +>>2562027 (OP) +no. pickup trucks are good if you need the bed for stuff. if you don't an suv is better. you can just sleep in the suv instead of bringing a tent. +--- 2562053 +>>2562027 (OP) +Any smallish vehicle that can pull a small trailer is better IMO. +I hate modern trucks and SUVs they're too cringe. +--- 2562057 +>>2562038 +Nah, I'm gonna own it for a while. Didn't like the idea of having a 7.5% APR loan, so I sold some stocks and paid it off in the first month. + +I added a tonneau cover and a decked drawer system to it. +--- 2562067 +>>2562027 (OP) +yup +--- 2562074 +>>2562048 +You can sleep in a truck bed. +--- 2562075 +2016 Toyota tundra extended cab +Got the camper shell last year it takes it to another level. I used to use tote boxes for everything, but now it all stays dry and locked up and secure in the truck bed. Pretty dope. Got two kids and wife, we bring the tent and tons of shit and never run out of space. +--- 2562097 +>>2562027 (OP) +adventures are made on your feet, not behind the wheel of some faggy truck you dont even own. put the keys down nigger and go for a walk +--- 2562237 +How do they perform off road in mud, sand, and your typical forest road perhaps gravel or something similar. Sorta worried about weight distribution and something like a Subaru almost makes more sense. +--- 2562261 +>>2562030 +>>2562057 +>Buying any pickup newer than the early teens +>That isn't marketed towards commercial use +These are mall crawlers that are meant to make you feel like a big boy who's got big toys. +>>2562067 +At least taco drivers will bring theirs onto sand once in their lives. +>>2562027 (OP) +I'll be honest with you. You can do everything you mentioned with a sedan, admittedly not quite as comfortably. A hitch attachment is only a few hundred bucks (less if you diy) and with a small flatbed you can haul pretty much everything you expect to, especially if you go with something rear/all-wheel drive. You may take your truck off-roading once or twice a year, but if you have a $35k vehicle, odds are you don't want it to get scratched up. If you're getting a pickup, get a used one, get one that you won't feel bad beating around innawoods in, don't buy one that makes you look like a suburban dad in a midlife crisis. +--- 2562272 +>>2562237 +A soob is pretty damn capable, trucks just have the brute force of a fuck huge v8 ground clearance and can fit big meaty tires. Just make sure you get 4wd, getting stuck and not having it is a nightmare +--- 2562273 +>>2562057 +I'm the OP to the post you replied too. + +I'm glad you paid your shit off. I'm just a mechanic, Toyota engineers been taking notes from Chrysler the last 3/4 years... Also parts.. everything important has a 6 months back order it feels like. + +You remember the "chip shortage" bs? Know the parts they made to keep up with demand. That's it.. they didn't make backups for later down the road, they moved on to the next project. + +I would of told you to get a 2019 of some year instead... I don't hate trucks (tho I think to some extent a sedan is a better /out/ car.) + + +Anyone reading this. Anything 2020 and up. That was a new body style/engine from its previous years. Stay away... The auto market has a huge quality control issue post covid. 2022 F350s are coming in left and right with dead rear axles.. some as low as 20k but normally 40k and below.. Chevys are seeing bad gasket surfaces. Dodges and their stupid ass half aluminum half Plastic radiators... Oh euro? BMW m3s power steering pumps, pump works. Chip set inside of the pump itself fails randomly throwing error codes. Sometimes putting the car in limp mode. + +If you have to buy new- I guess do it. But it's not the cars of old for awhile longer.. you HAVE to do maintenance.. otherwise you won't see 100k.. even on historically reliable brands. + +Little protip if you're looking to buy new- most shops use something called Mitchell1 it has manuals and shit for us mechanics. It also has service bulletins for common failures reported. And at what milage.. ask the dealership techs to look into it and see what so far on the car ur looking to get has reported. So you know what to keep an eye on.(buy one lunch even to sweeten the deal on their end..) +--- 2562292 +>>2562027 (OP) +2012 Tacoma with a double cab and short bed. 4WD with tow package, of course. I car camp in pretty remote areas on National Forest land and I've found sites that I wouldn't have been able to get to without a truck or jeep. No lift, but I have all terrains and a winch just in case. Haven't gotten stuck so far. +--- 2562339 +>>2562027 (OP) +Yeah. +--- 2562435 +>>2562273 +>Anything 2020 and up +I'd say 2021, most 2020 model year vehicles were made pre-covid. My '20 Ranger was built Dec '19 and it's arguably the best year for the model, past the first year issues but before covid fuckery. +--- 2562466 +>>2562292 +Curious how do you car camp with the short bed? +--- 2562482 +>>2562466 +Not him, but I got a hammock mount for my truck hitch, I am gonna use that, here is a video of it https://youtu.be/34KYpeG1s20 [Embed] +--- 2562484 +>>2562482 +I'm wondering what all of the options are for stealth camping with a small, sub 5 foot bed. Shorter people can get away with laying diagonal in short beds. I think the best option for taller people is to build a platform in the double cab like this +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSJSTk5TJuU [Embed] +--- 2562487 +>>2562484 +Stealth camping would be harder, you would pretty much have to do what you liked or drop the tailgate and use a bed extender, which wouldn't be as stealthy. +--- 2562504 +>>2562484 +You can get extension tent thingies if you have a shell, or a whole tent that fits in the bed with the tailgate down if you don't. If you really want to go all-in with the overland shit you can run a bed rack with a rooftop tent too. + +Obviously you can just go with the simple solution and set a regular tent up next to the truck as well. +--- 2562522 +No one else finds it soulless all using Toyota Tacomas? I get they're the king of the midsize trucks but damn no one is making the case to own a Jeep. Honestly if you're going to sleep in your truck, just get a Suburban of sorts. Even maintained forest service roads cant be all that much more challenging that an AWD car cant handle. +--- 2562525 +>>2562484 +>stealth camping +Fuck off, Steve +--- 2562526 +>>2562522 +The issue is that anything else deprecates so much, that only a Taco makes sense if you have the $, you get so much back one day. The aftermarket, the universal standard makes it appealing. Not "I'm a special unique person so I buy a weirdo niche and show it through a consumer item" + +Me? I've had compact cars and full size SUVs. Like them both +--- 2562731 +>>2562526 +Eh I could see that to an extent but when everyone in your group of friends has either a 4runner or Tacoma maybe an F150 even it begins to get bland. The overland community loves these trucks for good reason. +--- 2562784 +>>2562526 +>>2562731 +I considered a Taco, but when I realized that the Tundra was refreshed last year and had a bunch of nice tech, I went with that. I know it might end up biting me in the ass being an earlier adopter, but it really is comfy as fuck on the inside. +--- 2562797 +Trucks are shit for OUT. Look at all these boomers posting their clean trucks on paved roads. I did more offroading by the time I was 20 in a 92 Chevy cavalier than most of these retards have done their entire life. + +99% of the retards that drive trucks don't need them for what they do. +>>2562053 +This anon gets it. Modern trucks are over priced hot garbage targeted at Urban Boomers who use them to commute. +>>2562237 +Trucks are shit off road. Hell, trucks are shit ON the road if the road is slightly wet and you're bed is empty. + +Old Jeeps, 4runners or Suzuki Samurais are what the hard core mudrunners use...ironically the Samurais crush. +--- 2562826 +>>2562797 +Lelz you are a huge faggot and your opinions are worth fuck all. Enjoy your Samurai +--- 2562888 +>>2562522 +>>2562526 +I have a Ranger. It doesn't hold value like a Taco, but I bought mine used so that was an advantage. It's also superior to the Taco in some ways, for example the payload (which BTFOs other midsizes in off road trim and even some half tons) is a big deal if you want to go crazy with overland kit, it's a better tow rig, better at altitude which is probably relevant if you're in the western half of the US, etc. It's also got a really solid aftermarket since it's an extremely popular truck globally, especially in Australia. + +The bed isn't sleepable without janky solutions but I didn't buy the truck with that in mind. +--- 2562895 +>>2562074 +Yeah, if you wanna get eaten, kek +--- 2562902 +>>2562048 +The problem is the lack of decent SUVs for the purpose, at least in the US. The 4Runner is really the only decent option left and it's an overpriced dinosaur. Everything else is either a gigantic land barge that's designed to be a premium Uber rather than an off roader or it's a Wrangler/Bronco that's good at climbing rocks but shitty for anything else. + +I wish Ford sold an Americanized Everest, it's basically a straight SUV conversion of the Ranger, like what Explorers used to be, and there's a good chance I would've gone with one instead of my Ranger if they'd sold it here. +--- 2562947 +>>2562902 +You can import the Hilux from south American pretty easily. I know a few guys here in Florida who will go to their home countries and buy you one and drive it back for 2k/3k extra. And can be registered here. Now if I can just get someone to help me import a new jimny... +--- 2562990 +[laughs in power wagon] +--- 2563094 +>>2562526 +What percentage of trailheads do you find you can get to with a compact car? +--- 2563103 +>>2562027 (OP) +they're alright but i'm short enough to sleep in my tiny picrel 4x4 diagonal. + +>>2562048 +>pickup trucks are good if you need the bed for stuff +camper tops exist, and also truck bed vs suv roof have a lot of upsides and downsides to consider if you're ever planning an overlanding type build with a popup tent. +>>2562902 +you don't buy a new suv to do offroading and overlanding and shit. you buy something older thats a bit cosmetically fucked and build your offroader/overlander. the newer it is the worse it probably is for offroading. the only exception is if you're saudi oil baron level rich and commissioning some custom gazillion dollar overlander. some of the military auction vehicles euros can get are cool as fuck too. my buddy built a 6x6 unimog ages ago. +>>2563094 +nta but i can get my lowered-but-not-stanced e30 down most trailheads in washington fine. i don't even really pay attention to what car i'm taking on a hike unless someone says its fucked on alltrails. the worst case its ever been is i hike an extra mile or two. +way back in high school i took my taurus up and down all kinds of pnw mountains and unmarked logging roads going to raves out in the woods, and i took it down a pretty gnarly trail pretty fast running from the cops once. +you blow up suspension components every once in a while but its honestly not that bad if you don't care about your spine, have a little ride height, and have it on something small like 14's or 15's with old school balloon tires. +the main thing that makes modern cars fall apart and drive like ass the second they're off pavement is the rubber band thin tires and big ass wheels that are trendy right now. if you just put smaller wheels and fatter tires on them and relax the stance a bit they drive fine off road if you can dodge potholes. its just physics. the wheelbase being so short and the car being so narrow makes offroading inherently easier. +--- 2563117 +>muh flashy trucks with no dirt on em +nah some people keep their offroad vehicles clean. i never liked that trope. the local s&r guys here keep their trucks spotless and probably suck each other's dicks about it too. probably don't use them often but it doesn't mean they're not seriously capable builds. +if ur not a car guy here's what to look for to tell if a truck actually gets offroaded: +- it probably has dents/paint damage/rock chips. +- the truck will not have the stock front bumper. if its a diy bumper sven welded up himself, they definitely offroad. if its from a kit its either a higher budget build or a poser. +offroad vehicles don't necessarily need to have rock bars or an aftermarket rear bumper or a snorkel or anything else really associated with the look. +- probably not an offroad vehicle if its wheels are bigger than 16". if the wheels are aluminum the owner is either serious + richfag or a poser. it probably has all terrains or mud tires on it and if its a real offroader they're probably not xbox hueg. +this isn't always the case, swapping tires and having 2 sets of wheels is a thing. +- generally not as lifted as ud assume if its not a prerunner/jumper +- just look up what a drop bracket lift looks like, those arent offroaders +- theres more people who imitate the look of an offroad vehicle than ppl who drive offroad vehicles in the wild, especially confirmation bias because nobody drives their offroader on the street +might have missed a thing or two but that's the thought process anyone who knows 'em has when they see one in the wild. +--- 2563119 +>the only exception is** +and hiluxes if foreigners aren't lying about their continued quality +those are actually a new car worthy of offroading but i'd still feel bad fucking it up +--- 2563166 +End of debate +--- 2563295 +>>2563166 +>viscous coupling +--- 2563300 +>>2563295 +It just werks +--- 2563312 +>>2563117 +>and if its a real offroader they're probably not xbox hueg +Bigass tires are a necessity for serious rock crawling, they're the only way to achieve appreciable clearance for beam axles. +--- 2563320 +>>2563312 +Rock crawling is more stage play than offroad traveling +--- 2563332 +>>2562888 +Holy shit rangers got huge. +That’s bigger than my 98 f150 +--- 2563355 +>>2562525 +Gee whiz! Hostility! Someone needs a Step 2, I'd say +--- 2563388 +>>2562027 (OP) +>weekend adventure +get a fiat panda, larper +--- 2563424 +>>2563388 +Lel why do pickups invoke so much seethe? +--- 2563427 +>>2563312 +general rules of thumb, i could write an exception for all of them +--- 2563499 +>>2563094 +I can only think of 1 area in death valley that was sketchy to get to, the rest have been fine, including all over big bear at 10,000', Bryce canyon, Moab, Zion. + +Get taller sidewall tires over stock. I went with 205 60 R16s recently but wish I went with 215 65 R16s +--- 2563500 +>>2563424 +because out is inherently contrarian and retarded. If you own a truck, you're automatically a suburban boomer who only drives to safeway or starbucks. +the board is basically a whole lot of college kids shitting on everything they see with an autistic black/white attitude +>if you don't do _ exactly as i do, you're stupid and wrong. +--- 2563501 +>>2563332 +It's actually slightly smaller, but yeah in general it's the closest thing you can get to a '90s half ton. Trucks have basically gone up a whole size in the last 20 years, F150s now are bigger than late '90s F250s and so on. +--- 2563505 +>>2563103 +>you don't buy a new suv to do offroading and overlanding and shit. you buy something older thats a bit cosmetically fucked and build your offroader/overlander. +If it's gonna be a dedicated hardcore rig, sure. Some of us need a daily driver that can do double duty, though, and it's been long enough since real 4x4 body on frame SUVs were common that you have to go pretty old, high mileage, and usually beat to shit or badly modded by previous owners, plus the good stuff is starting to cost stupid money. +--- 2563934 +>>2563500 +The first sentence is correct (factually, not grammatically). The rest of your rant is you being stupid. +>>2562826 +Ok boomer. Glad you feel good about that 40k truck you drive to your office job. +--- 2563948 +I built pic related from frame up about 10 years ago. It's starting to show it's age, so I'm going to make it a little more off road capable on this go around. + + Plan to replace the rusting bed with a steel flat bed with built in ramps for loading atv, add a selectable locker in the rear axle, lift it slightly more and bump up to a 35" tire, build steel bumpers with hitch receivers and wire both with power points so I can run a winch at either end. And install the on board air system I've had in my garage collecting dust. Oh and swap in a 5 speed so I can have an OD gear for longer drives +--- 2563977 +>>2562526 +This is the main reason I bought a tacoma. I bought a 2015 model in ~2018 and I can resell it now for roughly how much I bought it for. It's a great multi-use vehicle, since I can move large things in the bed, camp, drive in cities/long distances, etc. I owned a 94 jeep before this, which was obviously better in the offroading niche, but not great at anything else. + +>>2562522 +In addition to the low depreciation, doing anything offroad will have a lot less wear on something tall vs something short +--- 2563981 +>>2563500 +I'm sorry you're poor, you should probably work on that instead of posting. +--- 2563985 +>>2563981 +? +--- 2563988 +>>2563985 +I'm expressing sympathy that you don't have a lot of money. It may be more helpful for you to focus on improving your financial situation instead of spending time seething on 4chan. +--- 2563991 +>>2563934 +Wait my truck cost 70k....where are yall getting trucks for 40k? +--- 2563993 +>>2562484 +Random idea... Could you buy 7ft or so of culvert pipe, cap off the end with tarp, and use it as a sort of stealth bivvy bag? +--- 2563996 +>>2563988 +But I probably make more money than you my young friend (and own more land, in a better location to boot) + +But okay, sounds good +--- 2564055 +>>2563996 +Then why are you seething about people owning trucks +--- 2564060 +The best /out/ car would probably be a extended cab 8ft truck bed with a camper shell (soft or hard). Unfortunately that is not even made unless you get 1/2 or 3/4 ton pickup. So you will have to settle for double cab tacoma with the 6 foot bed. Any bed shorter than 6 foot is retarded. Just buy a suv/subaru at that point. 4x4 is not required but is nice to have. Now what is necessary is getting a good AT tire like BFG K02 TA or other comparable, if you spend a lot of time off road, then you will need to get some nicer shocks. But that will be all you need. +--- 2564063 +How feasible would a light offroad motorcycle be for taking to a trailhead? Unfortunately trailhead theft is common enough here that I'm hesitant, but it seems like a cheap way to make it up forest roads with potholes and such. I don't want to buy a new vehicle just to drive up trailheads but my current one makes me scared sometimes. +--- 2564088 +>>2562027 (OP) +>>2563166 +>End of debate +I don't know about that. There's a distinct lack of toyota hiluxes and landcruisers in this thread. It's a shame that utes didn't take off in america, especially diesel single-cabs like the 2006 SR in the picture which is what I drive but with a longer 2.4m steel tray. All these US trucks are a sea of cabin and shiny panels without much room to carry anything. With pic-related you can dump literal shit in the back and scrape it out with an excavator, pitch a tent on it, dump a load of gravel in it. Why don't americans do this? +--- 2564090 +>>2564055 +I’m not? Shit, I own one myself. (98 f150 - good work truck; but ugly) +I was saying the reaction to trucks on /out/ is seething and shit flinging. +--- 2564149 +>>2564088 +OP said weekend adventures. Why are you talking about gravel and dirt loads? +--- 2564202 +>>2564088 +>There's a distinct lack of toyota hiluxes +There's a bunch of hilux's ITT they're just in the superior form. +--- 2564225 +>>2563094 +City dweller here, there is plenty of quiet places you can go to in and out of National Parks that are on unpaved and barely maintained roads. Don't hesitate, get a look and plan a little. Be aware of weather conditions and your car's limits. In my case, it's the low clearance and bad traction in loose/wet sand that I have to watch for, so true offroad is kinda off. The important thing is that your /out/ stuff fit in. Might go for something bigger as my next drive, surely not a truck, but this thread is interesting. +--- 2564226 +Every machine is a compromise in one direction or another. +20 mpg is a fine trade off for elbow room, a tranquil cabin, shitloads of power and tarrs with a long footprint. +Got a trunk bigger than a 70's Caddie, throw the wet shit in there and skeedaddle +--- 2564239 +An suv would work a lot of the time but you can't beat the utilty of the bed. +That white Vadge has hauled most of the material for my buddy's house and shop less the concrete and trusses. +--- 2564244 +You feel better about the absurd cost of big tires when people start smacking the cutbank. I was too busy not crashing to take pics but we saw four or five cars and trucks stuck in the rough on that morning. +--- 2564245 +>>2562030 +Extended cab short beds look fucking retarded, but you're a tripfag so it checks out. +--- 2564347 +>>2564245 +Tripfags can get gassed but that's a crew cab, not extended, and that's a nice looking rig whether you like the short bed or not. +--- 2564358 +>>2564063 +Get one of the Japanese 650s. DR XR or KLR. They have the gearing for long distance highway travel and good enough suspension to navigate any fire road and some lighter trail riding. Get panniers, windscreen and a high capacity tank, you can go anywhere +--- 2564365 +>>2564358 +>highway travel on a 650 single cyclinder +Fuuuuck that, I have places to be. +--- 2564367 +>>2564358 +The only thing that pile is good for is bombing wheelies, since the entire garage sale on the bitch seat helps counterbalance the 23 hp +--- 2564370 +>>2564365 +What they lack in horsepower, they make up for in weight. +My 525 will do highway speeds pretty easily. And it's ~270lbs. +While I prefer my 1190 if I'm on the highway for any extended amount of time (power aside, it's a LOT more comfortable ride), I don't mind jumping on the smolbiek. +--- 2564371 +The snow is almost gone nagroes, a fwd car with a skidplate and decent tires can get down most dirt roads, just Bahonda it. +You still can't make it to the best campsites but you shouldn't be that far from a starcucks anyways. +--- 2564374 +>>2564371 +>a fwd car with a skidplate and decent tires can get down most dirt roads, +you have never driven outside of a city +--- 2564376 +>>2564370 +That's a sick pic and a sweet bike. +Forgive me for doubting that weight number, is that claimed by ktm or have you weighed it? +Either way I hate getting wind blasted on highway miles, I have a Husq 610 (actual displacement 576 cc), it weighs 300 wet and makes about 55 hp, but no fairing makes for uncomfy highway miles. +I put it in my truck and only unload it for the choice roads. If I have distance to cover I borrow a frend's MT10 or his ZX10, I like to lay waste to long straights, step off with my hair standing on end, blurred vision and high blood pressure. +--- 2564380 +>>2564374 +Kek, I lived the entire 90s off grid in NE Shasta county in the sticks and mud. +My prelude could climb mud hills that were shutting down yota 4wds, and outrun them with ease in shallow snow. My frend Jim's early Accord (called the Ba-honda) would do amazing shit, carry speed and slide over huge logs and rocks. +We all drive capable trucks but fucking around with beaters in the woods is a good time, don't knock it till you try it. +--- 2564382 +>>2564380 +>My prelude could climb mud hills that were shutting down yota 4wds +Ok buddy. +--- 2564388 +>>2564382 +Take it or leave it, idgaf. Wide sticky tires and vtech yo, that car had big balls and could get it on. The yotas of the day couldn't generate any wheelspeed, and the 'Lude had a a good LSD. +You have never seen such butthurt as a jilted yotafag with a new 4runner that couldn't climb the learner paragliding hill at Igo Ono. +--- 2564404 +The cartroons are short on venom when pics get poasted, why is that +--- 2564409 +>>2564380 +>Off-roading in a prelude +Unfathomable based. I live on the Olympic Peninsula and one of the baddest off road cars around is a 1980 caprice some dude jacked up. Cheap as fuck rust bucket with perfect weight distribution. Most other off roaders drive old 4runners or tacomas. You also see a few jeeps and Suzuki safaris but what you almost never see is full sized trucks...if you do see full sized trucks they are usualy towing the off-road vehicle. +--- 2564412 +>>2564409 +Kek, he's mogging on all kinds of rigs, can't capiche the Caprice. +Fool size is fun until the trail gets peenchy or you sink it, then you need a fuggin crane to get it out. +--- 2564419 +I don't want to shit up the board with another thread so I'll ask here + +I'm thinking of taking my truck up to Alaska and overlanding for a month. How rough is the Dalton Hwy? I've got a '19 Colorado and a couple of extra tires. I don't do a lot of offroading but occasionally I'll scamper off out into the desert or some PNW Forest Service roads. + + Is it worth the investment to skidplate the underside of the truck for general fucking about? +--- 2564423 +>>2564419 +You don't need skids, the Dalton isn't particularly rough but you will have to endure some nasty adhesive mud. Skidplates might be nice just to keep your underside cleaner, and to deter the fawkin cat thieves. +That truck should handle whatever you aim it at no problemo. +--- 2564428 +>>2562027 (OP) +--- 2564429 +>>2564412 +He's a welder and an auto mechanic... he basically redid the suspension and transmission. It's never gotten stuck. Dude took it in mud over the hood and the thing kept going (it has a snorkel lmao)... Its really rather amazing. He did it as a joke and the thing just fucking crushes. +--- 2564439 +>>2564244 +The diameter of the tire has nothing to do with traction, retard. My ford fiesta is better in the snow than your retarded boomer truck... literally EVERY compact front wheel drive car is better than EVERY full sized truck on snow covered roads. +--- 2564441 +>>2564428 +That graphic is all fucked up like a soup sammich. +The G wag and the fool size suv should be moved to the top, and the rest of them, who cares. +I'm aware that new f150s are boomer tier trash, you should have seen my boomer dad when I showed him mine- the wheels were turning and he was five minutes from ordering one up before his inner jew took over and he decided that his 300k miles f150 still works fine. He really likes the 360 cameras lelz +--- 2564442 +>>2564439 +Ahaha! Tell us another one fluffy +--- 2564443 +>>2564439 +Moar CAPS plz +--- 2564446 +>>2564439 +As long as it's flat terrain you 2D brained idjit. +--- 2564456 +>>2564446 +A) you clearly don't know what 2d means +B) I go over mountain passes and to ski resorts very often--You're retarded: Front wheel drive cars crush full sized trucks. +>>2564441 +New Jeeps are Boomer trash made by Fiat, retard. The Wagons were never ever good--shit transmissions, shit motors, crap electrical systems. +Full sized SUV's are crap at every level. +Heavy, wide, shit gearing off road, unreliable. + +The list is what is common across three Washington, Idaho and Oregon according to mudders. The people with big truks don't drive them off road...and there aren't many jeeps older than a few years old because they all fucking broke down because they were never ever good. +--- 2564458 +>>2564443 +Only if you use your words next time... I understand comprehensibility isn't you're good at but do try to use your words to make some sort of coherent point next time. +--- 2564465 +>>2564456 +Didn't read, fag. +But I'm glad we're back to normal whiny bitchy /o/tism, people were being all helpful and shit, can't have that schlomo +--- 2564467 +>>2564465 +>I'm a whiny bitch +I noticed +You're not helpful, you're just a boomer tier ad for muh trucks and don't know shit about the off road community (which you clearly aren't a part of). +Obviously two sentences is beyond your intellectual capacity. Please, continue to demonstrate your low IQ and shallow comprehension of anything automotive. +--- 2564468 +Here's more stuff I don't own or care about to sperg over, tell us how mad you were going over the rover, zippertits +--- 2564469 +>>2564467 +U mad breh +--- 2564472 +>>2564467 +>intellectual +>iq +>comprehension +Kekles, Einstein has entered the chat. +Abandon thread +TRIGGERED +--- 2564473 +>>2564469 +lmao +As expected--three words is your absolute limit. +>>2564468 +>Newfag fail +Embarrassing. +--- 2564474 +>>2564472 +boring +As usual, low IQ's post repetitive Reddlt bant +I realize having any sort of technical discussion about vehicles is beyond you and this is the best you got but damn, you're really this pathetic. +--- 2564475 +>>2562027 (OP) +Idk, I'm in slav part of EU and bed is useless since people will steal everything that is not chained down out of it. +Leave jerrycan with diesel over night - it's gone by the morning, leave some tools, gone till afternoon, throw leatherman in, went to take a piss - it's gone. +--- 2564476 +>>2564428 +>>2564456 +>The list is what is common across three Washington, Idaho and Oregon according to mudders. +this list is pretty accurate +if you're ever around tukwila its really easy to verify. almost every day of the week in the early afternoon there's a gathering of 4x4 guys across the street from the south center mall in tukwila. if you know the lot in the back by seafood city, they do their meets daily in the lot across the street. not the one with the REI in it the other one. +--- 2564478 +Been in and driven everything but a G Wagen and half century old hooptys you mentioned. HMMWV is S in the desert, /out west/ but C or worse, in Pacific Northwest and most Eastern state trails. +--- 2564480 +Cheers +--- 2564482 +>>2564480 +>full size trucks +>same tier as a samurai +come on anon at least make your bait believable +--- 2564484 +This one should get some goats, this truck is a bad mother. +I'll be sure to pass your opinions to the owner +--- 2564485 +>>2564478 +I drove one of those here in yourop and I can't understand what where engineers behind this thing thinking. It's gigantic but there's very little usable space. Has this complicated suspension yet ride is shit, suspension travel is abysmal, no flex at all, v8 engine that is so anemic it can't spin tires in low range when bogged. +Like this is yugo equivalent of humvee, similar sized yet superior in every possible metric. idk... +--- 2564486 +>>2562027 (OP) +>>2562339 +>>2562888 +>>2564419 +whats with these tiny cuck trays? +--- 2564487 +REEEEEEEEE +--- 2564491 +>>2564244 +i drove through a ~50 car pileup on i5 in this kind of weather on a stanced wrx on bald rubber band thin summer tires. i followed some tow truck 5mph all the way to oregon and it turned out that just driving a reasonable speed made a bigger difference than the type of vehicle i was stuck driving (it wasn't my car, and i had to take over because the driver didn't know how to drive on ice, i was planning on sleeping) +--- 2564492 +You wan some scotch with that whine? +--- 2564493 +>>2564492 +God damn, how comfy is snow camping.8jgs4 +--- 2564497 +>>2564485 +europe gets cooler surplus vehicles but there's no equivalent to old humvees/hummers. they were exceptional vehicles. is just trendy to shit on old hummers because let's face it, a lot of anons are salty that they fell for the muh gas guzzlers jew psyop and didn't buy one back in the day when they were dirt cheap. +--- 2564499 +The bitchiest poasters never have pics, purely coincidental eh +--- 2564502 +>>2564493 +Max comfy broheem +--- 2564504 +>>2564428 +>HMMWV +>Anything but trash +u havin a giggle m8? +--- 2564511 +>>2564491 +You can usually get through with a car, holding up traffic with the seat cover sucked up your bung, but it's the last twenty feet that brings problems. +Steep driveways, plow berms, can't park off the road. It's always some scoobaru homo that's parked blocking the removal equipment. And you never see em helping another vehicle get out. +Altruism for the ditch magnets is the truck's prerogative. +--- 2564527 +>>2563499 +Driving on snow in the flat is easy with All-Seasons. Driving up a mountain to 11000' wasnt even a challenge except going UP steep climbs from low speed. Descending down though, yeah that's where your tires are everything... Going slow worked for me but there was a steep downhill corner I lost control. No crash, quickly recovered, but realize "going slow" isn't a fix. AWD is a meme for cars. Probably needed on 4000lbs crossovers and 5000lbs pickups. +--- 2564534 +offroad FRS +--- 2564539 +>>2562526 + +I'm with you. + +Most people can't drive for shit, just take the road slowly + +not too many fire roads or primitive roads in death valley that truly require 4x4 +--- 2564543 +>>2564539 +Good pics, nice looking ride +--- 2564641 +>>2564504 +no +you're clearly retarded +HMMWV are stupid good off road +literally the best off road vehicle in the world if you've ever driven one +you clearly haven't +--- 2564710 +I want to throw a hard top tent on my tacomas bed rack + +I’ve done a lot of shitty camping for my job, so I want to do some glamping for myself. + +Does anyone have any recommendations for RTTs? For hard tops, is clamshell or pop up better? +--- 2564720 +>>2564487 +>Two cuck trucks on a paved road +>Both spotless and dent free +City retards.. +...am I missing something? It seems obvious emasculated cucks are trying to buy masculinity. +--- 2564721 +>>2564499 +>Considers this off road +I choose not to post Tumblr tier garbage of a street vehicle on, basically, a street. +You have the perfect picture of a bitch car on a well trafficked beach road. +--- 2564724 +>>2564484 +>Spotless +>Parking lot pic +boomer trash +--- 2564738 +>>2564641 +>literally the best off road vehicle in the world if you've ever driven one +Pfft. +--- 2564888 +>>2564738 + +>what is clearance +--- 2564892 +>>2564480 +What do you got against carbs +--- 2564896 +>about to graduate from grad school +>great job lined up with comfy salary +>between clearing out loans and attending to responsible financial decisions (buying a house, laying the foundations of a stock portfolio etc) and starting a family I wont be able to get a decent truck for ~5 years at best +I've wanted a new truck since I turned 18, ground my way through undergrad and lawschool thinking about the day I get to buy one. I've made all the "right" decisions, embraced delayed gratification, and now I realize its still well out of reach. It hurts real fucking bad bros. + +Redpill me on 2nd hand trucks that have 80-120K miles on the clock. I presume its just tundra's and Tacoma's that are worth going for? +--- 2564898 +>>2564896 +nissans are still ok. stay the fuck away from any north american made truck, they are such piles of shit +--- 2564899 +>>2564888 +What is maintenance on a track vehicle +--- 2564900 +>>2564898 +I was thinking Toyota because not only the reliability and cheap parts, but because they are easy to work on AND there is a big market for none OEM parts +--- 2564927 +>>2564896 +120k is nothing for a maintained truck.. remember truck transmissions are not CVT... + +Even a non abused 5.3 with a 4L60e will see 250k miles without issue. (4L60e is a good transmission as long as you don't throw more power at it than it was designed for... Go figure) +--- 2564973 +>>2564927 +>Even a non abused 5.3 with a 4L60e will see 250k miles without issue. (4L60e is a good transmission as long as you don't throw more power at it than it was designed for... Go figure) +No hable espaniol hermano, ingles por favor +--- 2564983 +>>2564888 +You dont need that much clearance with such a narrow track base +--- 2565065 +>>2564983 +>tips over +Yes, yes you do need clearance to allow offroad suspe- oh right lol +--- 2565119 +Oh boy driving down the innerstate sure is a big adventure aint it bill bob? +--- 2565172 +>>2562027 (OP) +--- 2565173 +>>2564428 +>pre 90s full size truck +>use a GMT400 for the picture which ran from 1988-1998 +>three full size SUVs in different ranks outside of the "Any full sized SUV" category +Whoever made this list has room temperature IQ. +--- 2565192 +Why are all modern trucks so big? +I'm not talking about bed size, the bed size seems the same. +They all seem too far off the ground and way too big and bulky. +I love older trucks from like the 80s and shit. +--- 2565243 +>>2565192 +Safety +Or more specifically, safety (((rating))) +--- 2565245 +>>2565243 +Also profit margins are higher on bigger/more expensive trucks. having a smaller ranger/s10 sized truck available cuts into sales of f150s or silverados. Yet another sign that credits been way too cheap for too long. +--- 2565248 +>>2564428 +I fixed your list +--- 2565249 +>>2565248 +Hey now, im not a hipster i just really like the look of the 2nd gen wagons. +--- 2565250 +>>2565248 +>bought my first truck last year +>'88 dodge ram 50 +>Respectable Tier +nice +--- 2565319 +>>2565248 +Updated the list to include more things: +>>2565249 +I like the look of all of the hipster tier cars, but I can't argue with the demographics of the other people who usually buy them. +>>2565250 +Those first gen Rams are legendary. There's multiple cases of those trucks going over a million miles. +--- 2565330 +>>2565319 +>Those first gen Rams are legendary. There's multiple cases of those trucks going over a million miles. +Fuck that's exciting to hear, I liked the old ones because they're smaller and the one I got only had 70k miles on it +--- 2565335 +>>2565319 +Fisherman reporting in: move fishing boats (especially bass boats) to boomer tier. Only boomers are insane enough to spend $50k+++ for a fucking bass boat. Kayaks should be put in respectable tier. + +Everything else is spot on, damn good job anon. +--- 2565339 +>>2565192 +Idk, why did cars and trucks in the early 2010's suddenly go from 90% being 4 to 5 star safety ratings to suddenly only 15% being 4 to 5 stars? Why did full-size trucks suddenly go from V8's to twin turbo V6's? Why are midsize trucks all turbo 4 cylinders now? + +It's not hard to figure out why trucks became bigger, why cars became bland in design, and why everything is insanely more expensive compared to 20 years ago. +--- 2565340 +>>2565319 +Wranglers and Subarus in same tier discredits this entire list. I was going to sperg about the Xterra but that's icing on cake +And lol Ford Explorer? Man times have changed. I got so much shit for a lift+ tires on my 2003 yet took that thing everywhere +--- 2565342 +>>2565319 +Way too many old pieces of shit + +New cars are not bad + +Old cars are bad and will leave you stranded in the middle of the desert of national park +--- 2565346 +>>2565340 +ford explorers are fine, until that timing needs to be changed/repaired. then you mind as well throw it in the trash, cause ain't nobody paying 60 hours labor + materials to repair that shit. and if you think you're doing it without pulling the fucking motor... HAHAHAHAHAHA okay. +--- 2565357 +>>2565319 +>Boat Tier list + +>S tier +12/14' John Boat with 10hp/20hp +old solid fiberglass center console [no wood stringers/core] +Kayak- paddles/small electric outdrive +>Respectable Tier +Cabin cruisers/runabouts [only for northern states] +Skiffs +older 25-35' Fishing boats [for deep sea fishing] Inboard/dual outboard +>Mid tier +Kayaks with pedal drive. they're just dorky. +Anything foam core like a boston whaler. "IT CANT SINK!" as it cracks in half and floats away in two pieces. +Gheenoe or any large 14' Canoe with a small outboard +>hipster tier +any paddle boards or paddleboard shaped boats with small outboard on the back +>basic tier +Pond Prowler things, anything thats manually powered and near impossible to actually move. +>Boomer trash +Yachts +Wakeboats +old 80s "MUH TWO STROEK" Jetskis +Cigar boats +Anything with more then 2 outboards off the back. +>Zoomer trash +Anything fully electric over 14' +those clear kayaks +new Jet-skis. +$50k 17' center consoles. +anything you seen pulled by a BMW/Brand new truck that can't backup an empty trailer on the ramp. +sailboats - have to put this in zoomer trash because all the popular sailing channels are zoomer bait. +--- 2565426 +>>2565342 +Wrenchlet detected, opinion ignored +--- 2565514 +>>2565319 +Updated again, sorry in advance if something pisses you off. +>>2565330 +Nice, you made a good investment buying it if the mileage is that low. Hopefully it will last you a long time. +>>2565335 +>>2565357 +Thanks for all of the ideas, I think I was able to include most of what you mentioned. Boating isn't my expertise, so let me know if something doesn't fit the caption. +>>2565340 +Mid and respectable aren't that far apart and the rank isn't an indictment on the Explorer. I tried to limit each brand to 2 in each tier for balance. Explorers are great SUVs in my opinion, but Rangers and Broncos have almost universal praise and have a higher proportion of people using them as dedicated off road vehicles. JK/JL Wranglers are in basic with new Subarus because for every 1 Wrangler sold to drive off-road, 5 are sold as gifts for someone's 16th birthday. Modern Subaru Crosstreks/Outbacks is just a case of 1 off-road/10 Whole Foods parking lot. +>>2565342 +New cars are too unremarkable to describe in detail on this list. +--- 2565539 +>>2565319 +>but I can't argue with the demographics of the other people who usually buy them. +Thats fair, i myself can ignore them quite easily since im not retarded enough to live near the west coast/mountains +--- 2565568 +Pickup trucks are often LARP. People can steal things from them and of all the things that can fit in the tray most need tiedowns or whatever. +--- 2565603 +>>2565568 +>Pickup trucks are often LARP. People can steal things from them +Wow Jamal, great exercise in logic today. Keep it up +--- 2565635 +>>2565568 +>tiedowns +Only if you drive like a woman +--- 2565638 +>>2565635 +Or if you hit some absolutely hectic skids +--- 2565653 +>>2565638 +Anon parking lots are anything but hectic +--- 2565654 +> not having a niva +> ngmi + +You people make me laugh with your bloated cars. Lada Niva, toyota tercel 4wd is all you need. A car you can trust and repair ez +--- 2565656 +>>2564367 +It’s not made to haul ass. It’s made to get from point a to point b reliably. Sure there are “better” options, you can get an 1190 ADV R, a T7, or a GS1250. Dude was asking for a light off-road bike to take to a trailhead. I mean if you’re gonna haul a bike to the trailhead and ride out from there, just get whatever trail or mx bike tickles your fancy at that point. I see GS boomers going at a snails pace on the easiest of fire roads because of how fucking heavy their bikes are +--- 2565667 +>>2564370 +>>2564358 +I'm >>2564063 thanks for the info! Will definitely be considering this. Looks like the right mix in terms of highway compatibility and trail-friendliness. +--- 2565811 +>>2564376 +>Forgive me for doubting that weight number, is that claimed by ktm or have you weighed it? +Fuel, oil, coolant, fork oil, skid plate and accessories on, GPS on the bars, ready to ride, as it sits in my garage right this moment. +1190's closer to 600 but I haven't rolled that onto a scale yet. It's a fat pig, but it handles the weight surprisingly well offroad. Even my sleds are about 100lbs lighter than that bike. + +LMC on the left weighs about as much as my pickup. +>tfw work dirt bike +--- 2565857 +throw a canopy on it and sleep in the back, 6ft bed, light weight, easy to maintain. +--- 2565901 +>>2565811 +That's a good weight, I bet that bike is a ripper. My frends are trying to get me to buy an "adv" bike, but everything seems too porky. I want a 150 hp bike at 400 lbs, sheeeeit +--- 2566017 +>>2565653 +Don't project your skid aversion onto me +--- 2566045 +Imagine not loving your truck. +You'd have to be a dead soul tranny. +--- 2566049 +>>2566045 +Are you gonna post a truck? +--- 2566052 +>>2566045 +That's an inbred pitbull not a truck you fucking retard. +--- 2566054 +>>2564487 +Not trucks, you're either a nigger or a retard. Hope you crash and your two ton steel death missile launches you out the dashboard and smears your brains on the highway you drive it on you on-roading pussy shit. +--- 2566055 +>>2564484 +Not a truck, boomer piece of shit. Again, overly built luxury vehicle but has a bed for MUH WORK that you never do. Neck yourself. +--- 2566056 +>>2565857 +THIS. Is a truck. It is built for utility and not a 30 year old man baby who wants a Corolla but is too emasculated by the idea of driving a normal car. +--- 2566060 +>>2566045 +Nice truck anon +--- 2566062 +>>2566054 +Lolz, I have your number you loony troons. I whistle and you appear in seconds seething like a woman. +Troon is your best trigger but there are others that give you the twitch. +Look at the filth you spew, you're bad juju. +You will never be a woman. +--- 2566066 +>>2566060 +Thanks breh, it's a good machine. +It makes the can't-cunts reeeeeeeee +--- 2566067 +>>2566054 +Wew lad, you have some deep personal issues that you need to work out. +Try the decaf, you're a spaz +--- 2566077 +Wishing death on strangers is bad for your destiny. Fortuna's wheel never stops, it grinds the unfit beneath her spokes. +--- 2566092 +Trucks are great for camping non-griswald sites. Imagine the feeble bonfires of the un-trucked. +--- 2566107 +Pics like this are devastating to the urban rodentia. +Some douche in a mall crawler is in a place like that- what are you doing with your life? Guess you'll have to settle for shitposting on the 4chinzs with no pics. +--- 2566116 +>>2566045 +Luv me truck +Luv me bikes +Simple as +--- 2566120 +>>2566107 +Your ugly truck is an eye sore on that beautiful landscape. Try hiking a mile you fat fuck +--- 2566122 +>>2566116 +Looks like good times anon. +Hol up! Plug your nose and bleat it with me: +F150 is not a real truck and you will never be a part of the offroad community lolz +--- 2566126 +>>2566122 +That’s why I own dirtbikes lmfao +--- 2566128 +Truckin, got my chips cashed in +Keep trucking, like the doohdah man +--- 2566132 +>>2566128 +Oh is that your girlfriend, wife maybe? Shes fat. Who would've thought +--- 2566135 +>>2566128 +Single cab chad +--- 2566136 +>>2566132 +Spoken like a true incel. Have sex kiddo. Tick tock. +--- 2566137 +I'll be back with fresh pics on monday, brohams. pepper your angus +--- 2566138 +>Need all the horsepower I can get to get up these here mountains +--- 2566140 +>>2566077 +As Fortuna sits idly by +I spin her wheel with all my might +Crushing my kin for warring-wage +Minted from the ivory of your tooth and eye +Under the table where she dines +I sit hungry with my mouth foamed white +Fighting for crumbs that trickle down +As she finishes her cake, then takes a bite from mine +--- 2566146 +Was considering picking up this 2010 Ford F-150 FX4 for ~15K$ CAD. It's got 155000km on it. Thoughts? +--- 2566155 +>>2566146 +Mileage is low enough, should be a good rig if it's been maintained. +--- 2566240 +>>2565514 +...That escalated quickly. +also, +Top kek +--- 2566248 +>>2565514 +Newer midsize trucks ought to be on there somewhere, we've got a bunch of Colorado/Ranger/Frontier guys around. The Taco should also probably have a cutoff year because the legendary reliability went out the window when they changed engines. (Not to mention they've always had frame problems but god forbid you mention those around Taco fans.) +--- 2566252 +Wageslave awd crossover and a dualsport works pretty well. +There's only a handful of trailheads that near me that a stock crossover couldn't get to. +--- 2566253 +>>2566252 +Christmas valley anon? +--- 2566254 +>>2566253 +I'd rather kill myself than live in oregon. +--- 2566256 +>>2566254 +It’s not all bad anon, there’s approximately 3 cities that give the rest of us a bad name. +--- 2566257 +>>2566254 +Looks like the battle born state. +Good pics man, and I'm right there with you regarding oregon, F that progressive shithole. +--- 2566259 +>>2566256 +I like the cascades, but I was born and raised in the rockies and can't leave them. +--- 2566260 +>>2566257 +Nevada is worse than oregon. +--- 2566261 +>>2566257 +Cont... oregonbrah is exempt from that sentiment, there are good people and places there, same goes for commiefornia. +--- 2566262 +>>2566260 +Kek, depends where you slice it. +Nevada is more than it appears at first glance. Their politics are fucked like everywhere else though. +--- 2566264 +>>2566261 +A robust greater Idaho would be the best state in the union; prove me wrong +--- 2566266 +>>2566264 +That or a Deseret where they kick out all the vegas and socal retards +--- 2566268 +>>2566262 +I like the place, I rode the NVBDR last year. +I hate the people especially those k tards from vegas that cut down a live tree and tried to burn the entire thing whole as firewood. +--- 2566272 +>>2566266 +Inshallah. +It does absolutely suck that you have rural/conservative states ruled over by one festering blue monstrosity. + +But back on topic; that anons photo looked a lot like lake county OR (and there’s more than a little off-roading out there) +--- 2566275 +>>2566272 +Everything from Bend to Pocatello is basically the same +--- 2566279 +>>2566116 +>Buys a massive truck to drive around dirtbikes +FFS you boomers are mental +--- 2566284 +>>2565811 +>Boomer cuts down all the trees and builds McMansion in the woods and pretends he's not an office drone. +Many such cases. +--- 2566286 +>>2566284 +>mcmansion +Cmon anon, it’s like you’re not even trying. Your poor is showing, that’s simply a 2 car garage with a gabled roof. + +Seriously, post view from your dorm/shitty studio. +--- 2566302 +>>2566279 +nigger that's a half cab f150, one of the smaller trucks you can get in america +--- 2566311 +>>2566286 +I can't imagine a more boomer comment. +--- 2566314 +>>2566311 +Or a zoomer response. +It’s always this weird and sad mix of nihilism and sour grapes. +--- 2566337 +>>2566314 +>My generation fucked the global natural resources harder than the industrial revolution, has awful taste and absolutely hates natural forests +>We infest rural areas and push urban sprawl everywhere while planting invasive species +>You mad bro +indeed +--- 2566370 +>>2566337 +Everyone over the age of 30 is responsible for the shitty existence of the second whiniest and entitled generation in history. Sure thing bro. + +Just wait to see what your generation gets blamed for. +--- 2566374 +>>2566370 +>I don't know what Hart Cellar or Bretton Woods is. +--- 2566378 +>>2566374 +I mean, you’re not wrong (hart-celler in particular) but that was 19 fucking 65. +And besides, that was pushed through without any kind of vote by citizens. +Just like immigration amnesty, the ACA or any other vile bullshit of the past decade or two. +--- 2566379 +>>2566370 +>Just wait to see what your generation gets blamed for +We're already made to feel guilty over the holocaust, slavery and colonialism so what +--- 2566380 +We're derailed, trucks and bikes are the bitching target +--- 2566383 +>>2566378 +Law changes take time for the impacts to be felt by human standars... that's how they got away with it. +>The impact wont be noticed... for 40 years lel +>After that it's irreversible and obvious +>>2566379 +I don't feel bad about either of those things. No white person should. The only guilt I have is that the US fought on the side of the communist Bolsheviks instead of the Christian nationalists. The biggest problem with the holocaust is it never happened. +--- 2566384 +>>2566279 +I bought it to haul nothing but freedom 365 days a year, not to tote dirtbikes around ya dummy +--- 2566386 +>>2566384 +>muh truck is fredum +do you ever get tired of sucking jewish banker cock? +--- 2566389 +>>2566386 +No not really, I love having the ability to purchase the things I want. +--- 2566394 +>>2566389 +>I want a fast fix and on demand destruction without caring about long term consequences +>Instant gratification! +>Fuck actually understanding and having a relationship with nature +I know boomer, I know. +--- 2566398 +>>2566394 +You’re saving the world one greentext at a time. Keep up the hard work +--- 2566399 +>>2566398 +>zoomer +>work +Anon… +--- 2566403 +>>2566398 +Your lack of self awareness is truly increasable. +>>2566399 +Ironically I retired at 35 because I have way more money than you ever will and I spend a lot of time buying property from retarded boomers to put it in a land trust that bans logging and funds the removal of invasive species. +Tell yourself what you need to in order to feel better about yourself but realistically you're worse than a parasite--atleast parasites find equilibrium with their environment. +--- 2566404 +>>2566403 +Doubt.jpg +But okay, good chatting with you anon. +--- 2566407 +>>2566404 +>I'm off to fuck more natural habitat and buy garbage jewish goyproduct +yes, I already know +>hahaha fuck forests +yup +--- 2566422 +>>2562273 +Thanks anon +--- 2566424 +>>2563948 +Beautiful +--- 2566428 +>>2565248 +>>2565319 +>>2565514 +You're a legend m8 +--- 2566514 +>>2564641 +Absolutely, I was a 42A who drove it around on post to get my battalion commander's laundry and coffee and I never once had an issue going up a paved hill. I loved my time in the Army driving a HMMWV! I never understood why the combat arms units always complained about them. +--- 2566592 +>>2565514 +Turd gen reporting +--- 2566609 +>>2562027 (OP) +Probably a Van is better. +Like, you can store a lot of shit inside of it without the fear of rain or getting it stolen. +Also, I would prefer to sleep inside a van rather than a pick up bed. +--- 2566625 +>>2562027 (OP) +No, if you want a weakend adventure you are 2 chad options, that are cheap and do exactly what you need. +Option 1) The duel sport bike with 20/80 tires. You can get a rack, and saddle bags and pack easy 40L of gear, or even up to 80L if you adjust your spring and go literally fucking ANYWHERE you have the ability to ride. If you are a big boy you can get a 650, and keep your sell on logging trails and well troden paths, if you are a skilled rider you can even take harder single trail tracks to get inna woods, just dont drop your bike, a 650+Gear is a heavy bitch. Or get yourself a little DRZ400 and load it up with either 40 or 80L and more or less have a dirt bike, with blinkers, gonna be slower on the highway unless you mod it with a smaller sproket and or hot cams but then you are also scrificing low end torque. + +Option 2) Get your self an old CJ5 or CJ7, learn how to work it.get a cable winch, Hi lift jack, and a spare tire and go out in it. You can easy load up all your gear into it that you would ever need for a weekend and longer even. + +A bike will run you easy under 7k, like 4k for a DRZ, Jeep will run you a bit more, probably closer to 10k. +--- 2566632 +>>2562027 (OP) +I'm waiting for the toyota stout to make it's debut. +>tfw no domestic market Hilux in US +--- 2566633 +>>2566379 +You should feel anger at the people who made you think you needed to feel guilty +--- 2566645 +>>2564527 +>AWD is a meme on cars. + +I don't think so, Tim +--- 2566724 +>>2562797 +>Suzuki Samurais +Go back to Vermont +--- 2566770 +The list is updated and almost finished. All I need is someone who is experienced with aviation and is able to decide where certain types of planes/helicopters/balloons/drones/etc. fit into the blank spaces. +>>2566248 +Added everything except for the Tacoma cutoff year. I can add it if you have an idea what the exact year is. +>>2566240 +>>2566428 +Thanks, making this list is curing my boredom. +>>2566592 +Very nice, almost looks like the same year and cab setup as the one in the graph. +--- 2566779 +>>2566770 +Jesus Christ where's the Hilux +--- 2566787 +>>2566770 +>ctrl-f +>snowcat +>0 results +--- 2566799 +>>2566787 +Jeremy renner’s a jannny maybe? +--- 2566809 +>>2566799 +no, i operate them safely +--- 2566836 +>>2566787 +>>2566809 +dick status? +--- 2566845 +>>2566770 +>Added everything except for the Tacoma cutoff year. +1995 - 2023 +--- 2566849 +>>2566836 +have one +currently flaccid +--- 2566866 +>>2566779 +its a diesel 4runner +The graph is only so big +Its on the original +>>2564428 +--- 2566943 +>>2566609 +Eurotards and their vans i stg +--- 2567477 +overland rigs are probably S+ Tier, but its a lot of money to invest in a gen 3 taco to get it to that point. a stock SR5 with 4wd should get you down most off road/ overland trails. just know that if you dont spend the money to upgrade it, its gonna go real slow on uneven terrain. +--- 2567825 +>>2567477 +Still gets its ass handed too it by a stock 2000 4runner. +--- 2567919 +had to sell my truck for reasons. i'm still so sad. it was a '06 tacoma. had so much fun fucking around arizona with is. jesus save me +--- 2567925 +Would you rather live in a motorhome RV and tow a car behind it or live in a travel trailer RV and tow it with a truck? +--- 2567954 +>>2567925 +--- 2568025 +Small capable 4x4s made by suzuki are the based outdoor vehicles +--- 2568096 +>>2562273 +I used to pirate Mitchell on demand for my dad a while back but nobody steals the new stuff anymore +--- 2568129 +>>2567925 +Camper trailers fuck, RVs lean towards sex offender diff --git a/out/2562107.txt b/out/2562107.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..127ac717037362df54d4d4d3ce6b27a3f5927bbb --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2562107.txt @@ -0,0 +1,170 @@ +----- +--- 2562107 +I am taking my first lesson tomorrow (book stuff/introduction, nothing on the water yet unfortunately). + +My plan is to take these lessons for a month, and practice for a year when I can get the time, save up (I have saved up for a year already), and live in a used 35 foot boat. I am not going totally off grid, at that point I'd be living in an anchorage or mooring and work a job a short distance away. But to ease cost I have been fishing for a bit now and am learning. Of course solar panels, rainwater catchment, etc. will be put in place to ease cost. + +At the end of this, about two years from now, I want to be in a position where I am not working for months at a time and living off the sea/whatever food I preserved. Putting in the autistic will and dedicated to do this, is this realistic? What will be my biggest obstacles? + +inb4 running away I'd be swimming +--- 2562163 +Biggest obstacle will be the actual sailing. If you have no experience sailing at all, I recommend sailing as often as possible for more than a few years to get a feeling for how much you actually enjoy it. +--- 2562190 +>>2562107 (OP) +I hope you're not thinking you're going to save money by living on a sailboat. It might be cheaper than renting + owning a sailboat, but it's likely going to cost nearly the same if your boat is in constant use. +--- 2562192 +>>2562107 (OP) +Oh yeah sail a bunch first to see if you like it, you might be sensitive to seasickness or something you don't even know about yet. You can probably fix seasickness by getting properly sick once though. +--- 2562211 +>>2562107 (OP) + +>I want to be in a position where I am not working for months at a time and living off the sea/whatever food I preserved. + +You know absolutely nothing about sailing or sailboats, that's clear. A sailboat is not a log cabin in the woods. It is an enormous money pit that needs constant maintenance from expensive specialized services. There's a reason why modern sailing is associated with rich older men. Your plan will bankrupt you at best and most likely kill you the instant you go on the open sea. +--- 2562387 +>>2562107 (OP) +>save up (I have saved up for a year already) +How much? Ultimately, your budget is going to determine whether or not this is realistic, so yes, the exact number matters. +--- 2562506 +before you do that shit, hook up with some loopers for a summer to see how much that shit sucks +--- 2562559 +>>2562107 (OP) +I've also been taking lessons with almost the exact same goal in mind. I'm less committed so it will take longer. People buy sailboats and go cruising all the time, so we know it's possible. Living on a boat must be the most /out/ thing possible, it's disappointing how many naysayers there are in this thread. People living in $500k homes driving $40k cars are telling you a sailboat is too expensive. It's crazy. +--- 2562600 +>>2562107 (OP) +Have you thought about joining a crewed vessel? For instance a tall ship? I spoke to someone on the crew for the Pride of Baltimore just two days ago, and they said there is much higher demand for crew after COVID shenanigans. +https://pride2.org/come-aboard/guest-crew/ +I think a membership at a sailing center or something is a great start though. Try to do some networking and get sailing with folks, can't stress the importance of that. And log your hours out on the water. +--- 2562643 +>>2562559 + +>People living in $500k homes driving $40k cars are telling you a sailboat is too expensive. It's crazy. + +There is nothing more destructive than being immersed in seawater. It eats away at absolutely everything on your boat. And the fact that you think buying an old used boat will save you money instead of trapping you in a leaky deathtrap with a wornout engine is laughable. That's like buying a cheap 250k mi car that falls apart the instant you drive it off the lot and needs $5000 in repairs. +--- 2562701 +>>2562506 +might be missing something, but why the fuck are these people spending early hurricane season in the gulf and southern coast? +--- 2562703 +>>2562701 +Traveling up the Mississippi is fucking hazardous as fuck due to all the cargo traffic. Very few places you can actually moor to the banks. Even if you find a spot, you have to have a fuckton of slack in lines because said cargo ships will slam your shit around. +--- 2562737 +>>2562703 +right, I'm not suggesting that they go backwards. but can't you change your starting place or date to avoid hurricanes? +--- 2564069 +I'm in my late twenties and have owned three sailboats so far, from 28 to 36 ft which was a lot of boat for one person. None of them have cost particularly much to maintain, and when you see some of the boats people are sailing around on you quickly realize that the idea that there is a rule saying boat ownership always is expensive is ridiculous. + +Take some time to identify the most expensive single components of a boat (engine, rigging, sails) and learn what the signs of excessive wear and/or imminent need for replacement is. These can be simple or complicated systems depending on many factors, mainly the size of the boat, but generally you can either pay with your time in advance or pay either in time or money afterwards when fixing things that could have been avoided. For a liveaboard boat you may want to learn about and pay extra attention to things like electrical systems, plumbing, gas systems etc as well. +Here is a great resource to start with: http://www.pcmarinesurveys.com/Marine%20Survey%20101.htm + +When you find a boat that ticks all your boxes and buy it, preventative maintenance is key. Preventative maintenance is a lot cheaper than repairs. Stay on top of replacing/refreshing things like engine and gearbox fluids, filters, sacrificial anodes, running rigging, sail UV protection and so on. Keep up with maintenance like polishing and waxing the topsides and deck (where it doesn't have anti-slip/teak), keep your sails under UV covers whenever you aren't sailing, always tie up and fend off your boat properly and you'll save yourself money and headaches in the long run. + +OR you could let someone else do all these things for you, in which case yes it will be very expensive to own a boat. But the vast majority of boat owners aren't rich people and if they can make ends meet on the water then so can you. I speak from experience, I'm definitely not rich but I love sailing and put in the hours to make it work. +--- 2564071 +>>2562107 (OP) +get a good filter for your little cistern, rainwater even in remote places like the deep Yukon and open Indian Ocean is contaminated with PFAS and it will only be worse near population centers + +similar concerns with living off of fish, mercury accumulation could be an issue and the damage to your nervous system is not treatable after the fact + +this is mostly just pertinent to someone living off of collected rainwater/caught fish, occasional consumption isn't a big concern but day in/day out exposure will add up over years + +t. environmental engineer +--- 2564072 +>>2564069 +For my first boat I bought a sloop rigged one with an encapsulated keel and an outboard. +It had a simple electrical system, very limited plumbing and no gas system which meant it was a great learner-boat. I'd highly recommend something similar rather than buying a boat suitable for living on (with the complexity it brings) as your first boat. + +A word of caution is that great learner-boats often have had other people learning on them as well, so doing a thorough inspection is extra important before buying. Not necessarily to deter you from buying, but because it can give you an edge in the discussion of price. When you fix these things later you will learn how to do it properly as well which is an added bonus. + +I think a year is a somewhat short timeframe to move onto a boat full time, but it's definitely not impossible. It will just be a steeper learning curve so as long as you're up for that, there's no problem. +--- 2564421 +>>2562107 (OP) +>>2562506 +>>2562643 +>>2564069 +>>2564071 +>>2564072 + +Holy shit I can't believe thread is still up. + +Ended up canceling classes because of scheduling bs with my job. On top of that, >>2562211 is pretty on the money. The cost of simple maintenance is a lot of money. I'm only 20 with 30k or so, it's just too much risk right now. + +Smaller boats look nice to learn on so if I get the chance or find a good deal I might do that. Too much maintenance is really the main issue here. But I did learn a lot from here that's otherwise useful so thank you :) +--- 2564440 +>>2562107 (OP) +Well you don't technically need any experience at all. If you find some podunk marina that allows live aboards, just go buy a 70s pile of shit on craigslist for $1500 hang up some tarps and a laundry line, and move on in. Congrats, you're a liveaboard. + +Now if you want a halfway decent boat and to go sail to cool places, that's a different matter. +--- 2564445 +>>2564421 +Honestly the best first step is not buying a boat at all. Rather, join a yacht club and sail on other people's boats. All the fun with none of the expenses and headaches, and people are always looking for crew. +--- 2564470 +>>2562163 +This +Go to the yacht club and sign up for crew on someone else's boat. There are always people looking for crew. +--- 2564477 +>>2564421 +>The cost of simple maintenance is a lot of money. +I'm curious about this statement; what do you classify as "simple maintenance" and "a lot of money"? +I'm asking because this isn't my experience at all from when I was in my early twenties and owned a 28 footer. +--- 2565184 +Just get a large dinghy. I bought this O'Day daysailer off FB marketplace for 2k in February. I have been out every weekend since and have already learned enough to be comfortable in most conditions. Sailing a dinghy with a main and headsail is very similar to a larger boat, except you will gain more experience sailing in adverse conditions. 17mph winds feel like 30 on a small boat. +--- 2565894 +>>2562107 (OP) +>>2564440 +>>2564477 +>>2565184 +Okay guys, just had my first class lesson today. As I was going to cancel it turned out the introduction class was delayed, and my work schedule finally updated. I will be learning with a designated partner on a small dingy. + +I'm not sure if I'm still going to stick with sailing after the course but I'm thinking something like a 25 Catalina 25 is my best option, large enough to "live" in but small enough to sail myself with a year's of experience. + +Not really anything notable, just an update on the progress. Will keep updating if there is interest. +--- 2566219 +>>2565894 +Glad to hear it, I hope the classes go well! Good luck, it's easy going and you'll have a blast. +--- 2566536 +how was the class anon - what sort of class was it? +--- 2566603 +>>2566219 +>>2566536 +The class was a basic introduction, I went to a library meeting room with a bunch of boomers. Instructor went through the basics, such as the names of boat parts, some knots, and how to perform various actions on the boat. + +The content itself seems complex but clearly you learn it best on the water, which the first of those lessons is coming up Saturday. Will update on that. +--- 2566729 +>>2566603 +nice, have fun. +--- 2566764 +>>2564421 +start with a van life build first. that way is alot cheaper. though you have to shit in a hole. +--- 2566766 +You should read Two Years Before the Mast by Dana + +Its very good, and fascinating, probably the best book about sailing ever written. +--- 2568030 +>>2562107 (OP) +Just went on my very first sailing trip with my dad who got his license about a year or two ago and has gone on 2-3 one week sailing trips so far. +We only sailed along the Mediterranean coast and had fairly nice whether, but after he explained a couple of things to my brother and me I think we made a decent crew and could handle most situations we ran into. +I imagine sailing alone (as your post implies) is harder than with two helpers, but from what I've seen and learned this week I can imagne that if you spend a year or two to actively prep for this, you can get by pretty alright and I think from there on out it's just about gathering experience +--- 2568082 +>>2568030 +Yeah it definitely seems that starting off on no matter what size or kind of boat, you will need assistance to begin with. + +So today was the first on water class. We sailed some small hunter 140s on a lake with zero fucking wind, so for tack exercises the instructor went ahead and paddled. At first I was tacking rapidly but then I paused between moving the keel in the proper direction, and then moving to the otherside/switching hands. + +I had a but of trouble performing the hitchknot but I managed. Putting the vocabulary into practice was annoying. Other than that, I took my time learning with it and I can gladly say I am glad to be taking the lessons and I just want to keep getting out there and practicing. + +Now, my next move after this will be either to join the club and grind out sailing solo, or move onto a different club with larger boats in an inlet. My plan is to become competent at sailing a 25 foot boat. + +That's all for today. I'm tired I slept only five hours lol. +--- 2568083 +>>2562107 (OP) +Did you grow up on the beach/in the ocean? +--- 2568140 +OP here, I bought a bought but I was busy jerking off to trans furry porn below deck and hit a whale. The boat took on water and began sinking but I managed to get it close to shore. But then a tsunami came and buried the boat in sand. Now I'm selling my bussy for $5 an hour for crack in Miami. RIP my life +--- 2568144 +>>2568140 +Happens to the best of us +--- 2568164 +>>2566766 +Here, got it on zlib +In .mobi format +https://filebin.net/ozrpbaio3cmhb63y diff --git a/out/2562179.txt b/out/2562179.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fe7b9b330c302bd800f1159e61dec21ac69b5d79 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2562179.txt @@ -0,0 +1,258 @@ +----- +--- 2562179 +what's the point of them? +>open, bugs wander in and out +and uh that's all i can think of at the moment but regardless though tents are better. The only pro of the tarp is low profile and extremely cheap. +--- 2562200 +>>2562179 (OP) +It’s a Southwest/California/we know it’s not going to rain/bugs don’t live here thing. You can try it in the south then for some reason it storms in October and you wake up with a chigger infestation. + +That said, a tarp and bug bivy combo is both lighter and cheaper than most tents, and solves the bug problem. +--- 2562207 +A thread died for this bait +--- 2562213 +>>2562179 (OP) +big fire incoming +--- 2562240 +>>2562179 (OP) +ventilation. I can keep my propane buddy heater running as long as I want with no carbon monoxide worries. don't need to worry about bugs if it's cold enough for the heater. +--- 2562246 +I just bought an 8x10 ft tarp. Anybody know some good pitches? +--- 2562260 +>>2562200 +>That said, a tarp and bug bivy combo is both lighter and cheaper than most tents +Lighter maybe if you buy a good tarp and not a heavy DD standard, because it’s not fully enclosed, but that makes it worse for storms. +It’s not really significantly cheaper tho. +A borah bug bivy and decent 20D tarp will still be $150-$180. +A lanshan 1 is definitely cheaper than that, and an x-mid 1 is only $220, and you can actually sit upright in those. +--- 2562314 +>>2562179 (OP) +Ayo who tf using my picture??? Get your own /out/ content, you bum ass nigga! +>>2562260 +The tarp is more compact than just about any tent. So if you're trying to save on pack space, tarps are the way to go. The spectacular ventilation also prevents my stuff from getting damp overnight. +>>2562240 +Bingo. Tarps work really well for winter camps if you don't want to spring for a hot tent. It's way less weight than a hot tent as well. It's more fuss, considering the fire is harder to maintain, but the cost-effectiveness and versatility is hard to beat. +I wouldn't dream of taking my tarp above the treeline. But for any other terrain it's really good. It's light, compact, cheap, and lets you pitch a quick shelter wherever there's enough of a windbreak. That's the strength of a tarp. +>>2562246 +I like pic rel for solo camping. Just stake in the middle of the farthest side, stake out both near corners, pitch the middle of the near side to a tree, and adjust the stake tension. Roll the spare flaps underneath the shelter. +--- 2562329 +huge larp but fun when you are a bug +--- 2562407 +Also what do y'all use for guylines? +--- 2562472 +>>2562407 +550 cord. +>"hurr durr it stretches" +Yes, under load and over time. No, not enough that it matters. They're guy lines, not radio tower wires. +--- 2562501 +>>2562472 +>I’ve never camped in the wind and rain +Thanks for letting us know. +--- 2562527 +>>2562501 +See >>2562472 +--- 2562531 +>>2562501 +>hurricane camper has entered the chat +lmao +--- 2562548 +>>2562179 (OP) +They protect you and your gear from the elements. I use a tarp for chilling in the daytime and a tent for sleeping in. Also this is a bad thread and you should feel bad. Use your critical thinking faculty before making any more stupid threads please. +--- 2562611 +>/out/ 2023 +>nearly as afraid of bugs as /pol/ +--- 2562613 +>>2562531 +I actually was camping with my eldest son during Hurricane Ida in '21. It was only a tropical storm by the time it got this far north but it was still a solid 36 hour downpour with gusts over 30mph. I re-pitched our mess fly much lower to the ground so it would at least keep shit covered, and we hunkered down in the tent. 550 Paracord held that fly in place no problem. Might not be hurricane-proof but it's close enough for this side of the Appalachians. +--- 2562614 +>>2562613 +Makes you wonder what kind of winds these other anons are camping in that they claim 550 can't handle +>"heh, you haven't camped in constant 100mph winds? Guess you don't go /out" +--- 2562617 +>>2562614 +To be fair to the other anon, it's possible I wouldn't have had to change the pitch if I was using Dyneema cord. Then again, it's possible that it would have been fine with the paracord, too. +--- 2562620 +>>2562527 +It is enough to make your tarp droop. 550 was a fad that quickly died among people who actually camp because of this, but it lived on via retarded YouTube survivalist crap. +--- 2562630 +>>2562620 +>550 was a fad +Because it was dirt cheap, once upon a time. I'm still working through the spool my dad bought in the late 90s. +--- 2562634 +>>2562620 +>people use a thing I don't like, that makes it a fad +--- 2562647 +in the alabama heat and humidity air flow takes is the most important thing. also im a bit claustrophobic. bugs don't ever bother me don't really know why. +--- 2562655 +>>2562634 +Yes, it was a fad. It’s not because I don’t use it. It was popular despite its shortcomings, and now it’s not. That pretty much the definition of a fad. +--- 2562675 +>>2562655 +>a thing is no longer popular because I don't like it +Except for the fact that it's readily available everywhere you go and lots of people use it with no complaints, yeah, totally not popular, kek +--- 2562677 +>>2562655 +I use 550 for nearly everything and have never had a problem. +--- 2563115 +>>2562611 +People are pussies with bugs nowadays. I live in UK and I know grown men that act like women from a spider the size of a 10p coin and they think I'm nuts just picking them up and putting them outside. +--- 2563222 +>>2562179 (OP) +you're right anon my boyfriend really likes to "spread out" if you know what i mean ;) +--- 2563247 +>>2563222 +Imagine how bad it’s going to smell in that tent. +--- 2563249 +>>2563115 +You've obviously never been to the Boreal forest in June. +--- 2563257 +>>2563249 +you just let them bite you right after they appear so you get used to them and wont get any pimples or rashes later in the year and then you just live with them +nothing aggravates me more than seeing grown men always act like little girls constantly shouting and complaining loudly while waving their hands while /out/, always ruins my good time +--- 2563260 +>>2563257 +>you just let them bite you right after they appear so you get used to them and wont get any pimples or rashes later in the year +See: >>2563249 + +It's easy to say stuff like that when you've never experienced it first-hand. + +>nothing aggravates me more than seeing grown men always act like little girls constantly shouting and complaining loudly while waving their hands while /out/, always ruins my good time +That's why you go prepared. You don't just "let them bite you" unless you're a larper who never leaves their basement. +--- 2563266 +>>2563260 +but i have lived in finland over 40 years and my dad has taught me /out/ since i was 6 +i dont like it when they get trapped between sunglasses and your eye especially while fishing but other than that i never care much about mosquitos +--- 2563292 +>>2562179 (OP) +you have clearly never been graced by sleeping in a taj mahooch. they are the best part of being in the field +--- 2563327 +>>2562407 +3mm utility cord, super nice for knots since it dosent stretch +--- 2563458 +>>2563266 +>letting some fuck ass creature drink your blood +disgusting. +--- 2563463 +>>2562407 +kelty or lawson. 1mm and 1.5mm in 3 seasons, 2.5 or 3mm when its cold. the thin stuff is very strong but becomes troublesome to knot in the cold. generic dyneema cordage isn't as flexible its worth paying more for the nylon sleeved name brand stuff. how thin you should go is pretty much directly proportional to how much you're willing to let knot tying become a pain in the ass in exchange for weight/bulk. +i use atwood micro cord for almost everything else except guylines. +obligatory skurka's guyline tensioning system blogpost: https://andrewskurka.com/guyline-tension-system-backpacking-tents-tarps-hammocks/ +--- 2563471 +>>2562407 +I made some shock cord guylines (not for the ridgeline obviously) but probably half the time I forget them and use whatever I do have which is usually paracord or hemp rope. +--- 2563474 +>>2562179 (OP) +tarps are fucking GAY. its GAY. its ANOTHER MAN. YOU'RE FUCKING GAY. +there. i said it. +--- 2563479 +>>2563474 +Sir, the trap thread is over on /gif +--- 2563482 +>>2563463 +>3mm cordage +>bulk +lol wut +>skurka +oh, now I get it +--- 2563484 +>>2563460 +>read skurka's guyline system if you're new to using them https://andrewskurka.com/guyline-tension-system-backpacking-tents-tarps-hammocks/ +i dont really like his system, i find a truckers hitch a bit too fiddly and annoying to tie sometimes so i usually do bowline to attach to the stakes and then i attach the other end to my tarp with a tautline hitch +this way you can keep the bowline tied all the time use the same bowline for wrapping the cord, con of this is that you cant keep the rope attached ot the tarp the whole time and keep it in the bag but i dont find that it bothers me +--- 2563489 +>>2563484 +>i find a truckers hitch a bit too fiddly and annoying to tie sometimes +forgot to mention but i use 1.3mm dyneema cord with polyester sheathe so theyre very slippery, with a tautline i wrap it around itself 3-4 times as opposed to twice to add more friction but bowline knots work as normal, i also often use a double fishermans knot if i need to extend the guylines +--- 2563670 +>>2563257 +*permethrins your shit* +pssh, nothin personnel +--- 2563751 +Tarp will help against FLIR better. Netting helps against bugs +--- 2563762 +>>2563257 +either this or just use a proper repellant. For me its mostly ticks im worried of, but some ballistol bug repellant worked for me. also when having a campfire you could use some resin rich woods for the atherical oils to repell them. Or just stop giving a fuck. A lil bug won't stop me outings +--- 2563775 +>>2563751 +What kind of net for bugs do you recommend? +--- 2563803 +Works on my machine +--- 2563840 +>>2562179 (OP) + +Sitting there all fucking day and night when its raining and not being cooped up in a tent is great. You can stand up if you set it up right. Just the other week I watched a thunderstorm pass through the mountains from my tarp 600m up a steep hillside from the river below, pouring rain, dry as can be and the lightning was glowing up all the cloud particles and the forest like we were inside a light bulb. Freaking amazing, my father missed most of it from in his tent. + +Then I went to sleep in my bivy. The next day we had a large area of dry ground under the tarp, excellent. +--- 2563841 +>>2563840 + +Oh and we hadn't been able to get to a water source because the storm changed our plans which stopped us going over the top of the mountain. So the tarp can catch a lot of water in a situation like that, it lasted us enough to get back to water which was 2 days after the rain had stopped. +--- 2563975 +>>2562314 +I will try this pitch next time. I need to stop being such a fair weather fairy +--- 2564007 +>>2563841 +Why not just catch the rain water? Thats literally why a tarp is so great +>>2563775 +Any netting works. Bury the end and the only thing touching you will be beetles and worms +--- 2564010 +Here's a pic using both tarp and tent +--- 2564185 +>>2564007 + +That's literally what I do... +--- 2564198 +>>2564185 +Your post complained about not being able to reach a water source because you were being rained on. The water source is right above you +--- 2564274 +>>2564198 + +No, the post was explaining that the tarp makes it easy to catch water. Read it again slowly. "So the tarp can catch a lot of water in a situation like that" and catch a lot of water it did. +Also there's no complaining. +--- 2564279 +>>2564007 +Newbie here, how do you attach the bug net to the tarp? Bug nets in my country are things you put over windows, they are inflexible and stiff, not exactly a net but more of a mesh. +--- 2564280 +>>2564279 +>Le bug net +Go to Walmart and buy fucking netting from the fabric aisle and save yourself 6 gorillion shekels +--- 2564302 +>>2564279 +Some tarps will have a loop or loops in the inside. If you use a trekking pole to prop it up inside you can tie it to that. +--- 2564312 +All you need is something to sleep in, something to sleep on, and something to sleep under. + +Everything else is totally unnecessary. Don't be a bougie retard +--- 2564330 +>>2564279 +Pic is the Borah Gear bug bivy. The guy lines that hold the bug net up attach to the same poles that hold up the tarp, or are anchored to the same point as the poles. I don’t like this particular design, but you get the idea. +--- 2564342 +aliexpress bug bivy. +might pick up the winter version too and then bring my tarp above treeline :-D +--- 2564344 +>>2564342 +are you a manlet? +--- 2564351 +>>2564344 +5'9 but its nice since it means i can buy chink gear for nearly 100usd less than the borah stuff kek +in pic i use my jacket as my pillow off the sleeping pad, but the sleeping bag hood and feet still touch the net, i dont find it a problem so long as the net is off my face though +--- 2564355 +>>2564351 +>$100 less than Borah stuff +You sure about that? Pic rel. +--- 2564359 +>>2564355 +was thinking of the other one which is around 115 +--- 2564740 +You can use them on inclines. More versatile than a bivy. A symmetrical tarp can be pitched as a tent with a floor. +--- 2564770 +>>2564351 +yeh I suspected that because I have the same shit from ali and it's too tight for someone over 5'11 +--- 2567143 +>>2563975 +Bah, everyone posts more than they actually go /out/. I'm a fair-weather fairy myself; notice how the "snowy weather" pitch I showed you was definitely not in the snow. Matter of fact, that was the far North of New Zealand. +--- 2567204 +>>2567143 +Yeah, but this trip >>2563803 +ended up being the worst possible scenario: snow, then rain, then subfreezing overnight, and my brother forgot his tent for himself. We were fine, even with my absolute dogshit setup. +Just showed me I need to spend more time outside in bad weather, and the way you pitch that three sided shelter is just how I am going to do it so I can stay comfy. diff --git a/out/2562206.txt b/out/2562206.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d950cd8423bed608535517912a04f0e688b0d4b9 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2562206.txt @@ -0,0 +1,295 @@ +----- +--- 2562206 +And for what purpose is each? + +I just got a 20L and a 40L at a really great price but not sure if these sizes are good. +--- 2562209 +https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAtzN_ScKXY [Embed] +--- 2562210 +I have a 20 for warm seasons, and a 30-ish for cold seasons. As long as you're not bringing a bunch of extraneous stuff and you aren't camping the artic circle, you should be fine with the sizes you got. +--- 2562216 +>>2562210 +You use a 20 for camping? Wtf?? +--- 2562218 +>>2562206 (OP) +12L for day hikes +48L for 2-3 hikes +might get a bigger bag next year +--- 2562223 +>>2562216 +Yeah, but only in the spring/summer so far. +--- 2562250 +>>2562206 (OP) +22L for day hikes, 48L for backpacking. I can squeeze a six day trip into it with lows in the 30’s, including rain gear. That’s with a hammock setup so it’s a little bulky. I could definitely wily go smaller for shorter trips and fair weather, but it rides fine when it’s not completely full so there’s really not much of a point. +--- 2562256 +>>2562206 (OP) +45L +75L with extra straps to attach additional stuff + +Both packs compress down really small to the size of their frames basically so I don't need smaller packs when I'm packing just 30L for the weekend. +--- 2562268 +I only used a serious bag in the army. Is around 90 not standard go-to for you guys? +--- 2562280 +>>2562206 (OP) +50L, I use it for hiking and for traveling between my home town and the town where I study. +I just got into hiking (and /out/doors stuff in general) so I don't know if it will serve me well on longer hikes. +--- 2562412 +>>2562223 +How the fuck do you fit enough food clothes water and a tent in a 20L +--- 2562413 +>>2562256 +What??? Is this for winter or summer hiking and for how many days +--- 2562421 +>>2562412 +not that guy, but strap shit to the outside +--- 2562443 +>>2562206 (OP) +20L and a 55L +--- 2562464 +>>2562413 +45L is the maximum size you need for anything touristy during hiking season, long distance trails like PCT/AT, or hut hiking, climbing and mountaineering in the Alps. carry a maximum of 25lbs. + +75L is optimal for carrying 1-3 weeks of food, subarctic tours where you need additional gear same as tours in autumn (mountain) weather, hunting out of a backpack, and basic winter tours like cross country skiing with regular resupply. +carry a maximum of 50lbs but sometimes overload up to 70lbs if I need extra food. +--- 2562469 +>>2562412 +I'm that guy. +>food +I don't bring much because I don't like to pig out when I'm camping. A steak for dinner, coffee and oatmeal for breakfast, that sort of shit. +>clothes +Spare boxers, spare socks. +>water +I hand-carry my canteen or hang it from my belt. +>tent +If I'm running the 20L then I strap my shelter to the outside. My tarp could fit in the 20 bag, but I mostly use that in the cold season. +--- 2562749 +>>2562216 +I use a Kode 22 for anything two nights or less in the summer for a hike of 40k or less. I also use it as a day-pack. I use a Kestral 48 for anything longer or when I want to take extra food and drink. +>>2562218 +I like the 22L for day hikes because it isn't uncommon in spring and fall to start at 600 feet in 60 degree weather and to make it to 6,000 feet and it's 30 and snowing...in about 4 miles. +--- 2562750 +>>2562464 +Anything over 50 is for hunting or if you have kids and you're packing most of their shit as well. I can get almost a week out of my 48 liter in all except conditions except winter camping. +--- 2562767 +>>2562750 +You basically have to combine sports to validate a pack in the 70L+ range. My packraft, dry suit, PFD, and helmet are ~30L alone. +--- 2562777 +>>2562767 +I could see a 70liter for expeditions over a week...In like south America or Africa. I know people that will take a larger pack to the basecamp and summit with a compressible 20 liter. +--- 2562779 +>>2562750 +>>2562767 +>anything over 50 +I like to go hiking when there are no tourists and faggy city people. If you want to avoid tourists you need more. +--- 2562854 +I still don't get how the fuck y'all make a 20L pack work for a week of /out/. my medium alice pack is full after throwing a couple freeze dried meals and a fucking hardshell parka in it +--- 2562874 +>>2562854 +I would have the parka rolled up outside the pack but under the flap, held in place with the compression straps. Or else strapped to the loops on the bottom of the bag. +--- 2562878 +>>2562854 +>hardshell parka inside the bag +Well there's one problem. What else are you putting in there? +--- 2562881 +>>2562874 +I keep my sleeping bag on the top of my bag under the compression straps and my sleeping pad on the bottom under the compression straps. +>>2562878 +few mountain house meals taped together +cheap ass little stove burner to use with GI canteen +lantern, headlamp +poncho and woobie +tarp stuffed into the lid pocket +2 pair of socks and an extra pair of undies +the parka +and that's pretty much where I said fuck it I'm getting a large alice pack +--- 2562903 +>>2562881 +I'm not sure what you mean by bottom. Are you using these mounting points under the bag for anything? If not, use them with some extra web straps. +--- 2562907 +>>2562903 +I use those for my USGI sleep pad +2 2qt canteens on either side +2 saw pouches on either side above those +if I want to bring a pot with me I gotta do it johnny appleseed style +--- 2562908 +>>2562907 +So you only have the sleeping bag up top, right? Do it like this, sleeping under the rainflap, parka over the flap but still under the straps. +--- 2562909 +>>2562907 +>>2562908 +--- 2562911 +>>2562909 +well that works pretty well actually +might give the medium another shot in the summer as a smaller pack but right now I'm enjoying how much easier it is to load shit into a large alice. easy to go overboard tho +--- 2562914 +>>2562911 +If you put a horizontal compression strap around the large alice you can cinch down your load better. This doesn't outright prevent you from overloading it, but it's amazing how much less you pack when you don't have "it'll fit better" as a justification. I'd take a picture but I'm using the strap for something else right now, and I already put all my shit away. +--- 2562915 +>>2562914 +yeah I plan on doing that, I have some 550 cord going around but it's not quite the same as an actual strap +--- 2562933 +>>2562206 (OP) +I hunt, so i need more room than some faggot bringing raingear and a bad dragon dildo to go hike 300yds. + +I use a 45l for day hunts + +An 83L for any overnighters up to 5 days of camping. + +And i have an 105L pack for 6+ days of camping or if its extremely cold and i need lots of clothes, plus winter bag, tent, spotting scope, lots of food etc etc. + +For most camping excursions i use the 83L pack if i can. But sometimes the 105L pack really comes in handy. I use the same frame for all 3 bags. +--- 2562971 +>>2562933 +>lots of clothes +Post pics of the schoolgirl outfits you bring, we know you have them +--- 2563041 +>>2562206 (OP) +> What size backpacks do you guys have/use? +if you have to ask this question don't buy a backpack larger than 40L, YET. +this thread +is fucking +brain dead +for the fact that nobody has said this yet: +when you're starting off the smartest thing to do is: +buy a daypack and an overnighter/weekend pack, or a lightweight weekend pack that can compress down enough to be a suitable daypack. +10-20L and a 30-40L. +then don't buy any other backpack until you have purchased all your gear for what you're planning to do. +if its a large backpack for winter backpacking or something like that, buy everything going in it first. +put all that shit into some trash bags of known volume. +put some food, water, etc in there or something of similar size. +add up how much space it takes in the trash bags. +add yourself some wiggle room if you want it. += +perfect sized backpack every time without having to ever ask this question, or waste money. the pack is useless without the stuff to put into it. common backpacker advice you'll get is to buy it last. +overexplained for posterity to other newfag anons. you didn't fuck up OP, you bought the right sizes. +--- 2563043 +and if you are buying a pack IRL from an outfitter its normal, not weird or autistic at all to bring all your gear with you and stuff it in the packs when trying them on. people do it all the time. some anons are too autistic to but its a sure fire way to not fuck up the fit. ultralight niggers get fucked because their packs are all made in redditor's basements. +--- 2563051 +>>2562206 (OP) + +30L for day or multi-day hikes. + +40L for thru-hiking. +--- 2563055 +20L for daytrips and overnighters +65L for everything else +--- 2563276 +>>2562206 (OP) +20L +30L +40L +75L +Mostly use the 20L, nice day trip size, and I use it to cycle to and from work. Can get some rain clothes and groceries in it +--- 2563280 +70L. I find anything less sucks if you don’t have compact kit or like to take safety items. With a better sleeping bag I cut my need significantly but I like having the free space +--- 2563624 +>>2562971 +Naw, i leave those at your moms house, she loves to dress up as Brittany Spears while i stretch her asshole out with my dick. She said your boyfriend likes doing the same to you. + +Fag +--- 2563631 +>>2563055 +This is me, but honestit depends on your gear, activities, geography and personal tastes +--- 2563812 +>>2562206 (OP) +i have a 20l ortovox for daytrips, like fast technical hikes or skitours and two different 35l, a savotta and an ortovox. savotta for overnight stuff and the ortovox for alpine stuff where i need more gear than fits the 20l like when i need ice tools and crampons. +--- 2563819 +>>2563624 +>ur mom +>fag +Fear the sting of anon's rapier wit +--- 2563869 +>>2562206 (OP) +32L for overnighters and multi day trips where I'm not packing food +68L for multi day solo trips +I usually have extra space in my 68L but it is really light and compresses a lot so its worth it to me. I can pack my huge bear canister if I need to or pack my ursack and compress it down to half the size +--- 2563914 +>>2563869 +Kestrel 68? +--- 2563941 +>>2563914 +Ula circuit 68l but my 32l is a kestrel 32 from some years ago. Still holding up really well. Its different than the other kestrels because its panel loading like a normal backpack and I can easily access gear at the bottom of the pack. +--- 2563966 +>>2562206 (OP) +>Ropebag for climbing/waterfalling outings that can also be used for short dayhikes +>10L bikepack with a 2L water bladder for cycling/XC/MTB rides +>30L daypack for longer dayhikes and winter hikes +>40L orange pack for hunting season hikes, winter hikes, and overnighters +>70L for longer backpacking trips that I bought 20 years ago when I was in Boy Scouts +--- 2564385 +>>2562779 +no, you don't. +no one cares about you east coast retards. +--- 2564386 +>>2562854 +>Uses an Alice pack +I see the problem: you're retarded. +--- 2564387 +>>2562933 +>t. car camping boomer +--- 2564498 +>>2564386 +it's actually pretty comfy and it's still cheaper than a mystery ranch pack even with my gucci straps and kidney pad +--- 2564528 +>>2562779 +>reality check +skurka used a ~70 liter backpack to spend 6 months circumnavigating the yukon across muliple seasons +https://andrewskurka.com/adventures/alaska-yukon-expedition/ +https://andrewskurka.com/wp-content/uploads/gearlists_alaska-yukon.pdf +--- 2564530 +>>2562854 +>hardshell parka +goes outside the pack +a parka? and a 20l pack? when are we taking a 20l pack on a winter expedition? buy a lightweight jacket fool. +>freeze dried meals +have you ever done the math on the nutritional density of the food you pack? i don't carry water in my food. start paying attention and your food will be 1/3 the size and weight. +--- 2564532 +>>2564530 +the 20L size was just hyperbole. seems like 50L is roughly the largest size that gets recommended here but I have trouble fitting more than a couple days of supplies into a 40L pack. I'm not trying to just sit in the dark and eat cold oatmeal when I go out +--- 2564535 +>>2563631 +>but honestit depends on your gear, activities, geography and personal tastes +i chose both of my bags because they had everything i ever wanted and im really happy with them +pic related had savotta 8 liter bag in it too but i cut it out for i gave it away for free, also fuck that savotta marketing shill if he ever reads this +--- 2564594 +>>2564387 +>zoomer that cant even fucking read +Lmfao +--- 2564834 +>>2562854 +Here's the secret, noone saying they do that actually goes out Anon. +--- 2565610 +>>2564528 +>Sturka Sturka Sturka +>pointless reply +>reality check +>endurance wilderness adventure athletes in kilts, quilts and tights. +Why even bother? +--- 2565612 +>>2564834 +>anyone who is able to pack just what they need instead of half the fucking house never goes out +kek +--- 2565743 +>>2565612 +20L seems like a stretch. I guess if you’re only taking food for one night, it’s summer, not raining, and you’re sleeping in a single wall shelter or tarp. + +Post gear list. +--- 2565844 +>>2565743 +Don't forget a lot of people strap their tents to the outside of the bag, really saves on space +--- 2566241 +>>2562933 +>>2563280 +Hello fellow big boys +t. 100l enjoyer +--- 2566712 +>>2562206 (OP) +If you use anything less than a 130 you aren't gearmaxxing +aliexpress.com/item/4000039366269.html +--- 2566759 +>>2566712 +>cuckexpress +not even once +--- 2566879 +>>2563280 +I started with a 70L, now I use a 50L and have compact gear. Just upgrading the tent and sleeping system freed up tons of space. I'm more comfortable now with the 50 by every metric. diff --git a/out/2562238.txt b/out/2562238.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e242c77611ad6f59fc0d99174906e9706803099f --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2562238.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1298 @@ +----- +--- 2562238 +USDA Hardiness Zone Map: https://garden.org/nga/zipzone/ + +Pastebin: +https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87 (embed) + +Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.png (embed) + +Search terms: +Agrarian, Agriculture, Agrology, Agronomy, Aquaculture, Aquaponics, Berkeley Method Hot Composting, Cold Frames, Companion Planting, Composting, Container Gardening, Core Gardening Method, Cultivation, Deep Water Culture (DWC), Dry Farming, Espalier, Farmer's Market, Forest Gardening, Forestry, Fungiculture, Geoponics, Greenhouses, Homesteading, Horticulture, Hot Boxes, Hugelkultur, Humanure, Hydroponic Dutch Bucket System, Hydroponics, Keyhole Garden, Korean Natural Farming, Kratky Method, Landscaping, Lasagna Gardening, Ley Farming, Market Garden, Mulching, No-till Method, Ollas Irrigation, Orchard, Permaculture, Polyculture, Polytunnels, Propagation, Rain Gutter Garden, Raised Beds, Ranch, Rooftop Gardening, Ruth Stout Garden, Sharecropping, City Slicker Composting, Shifting Cultivation, Soil-bag Gardening, Square Foot Gardening, Stale Seed Bed, Sugar Bush, Truck Farming, Vermiculture, Vertical Gardening, Window Frame Garden, Windrow Composting, Alpaca, Snail, Toad, Trumpeter, Turkey, Worm + + +previous: >>2556910 → +--- 2562241 +Question for the dry bean grower of last thread, how many plants do you need for decent (supplemental meal ingredient for 3 people) yield? +--- 2562251 +>>2562238 (OP) +Way to not include the number in the pic retard I bet you don't even grow your probably a baker creek and no till retard +--- 2562258 +Have a Japanese boxwood and regular boxwood, both nary 1.5ft high. Want to topiary the first into cloud priming’s (niwaki) and the second into a 3 ball. I want at least a foot of trunk space between the foliage and soil. Can I shape them now or gotta wait a few years for them to be taller? +--- 2562271 +>>2562251 +I was lazy and didnt add a number to the pic oh well then maybe you bake the next thread anon. Only reason I did so was because no one else had and the previous thread was at bump limit and about to fall off the board. +--- 2562276 +>plant carrots +>snows the next day +God has forsaken me. +--- 2562289 +What's the best setup to provide some shade for my garden once the weather starts getting intolerably hot? I have about 200 square feet shaped like a block more or less. +--- 2562291 +>>2562289 +A tree +--- 2562296 +>>2562291 +I can't very well just grow one instantly can I. +--- 2562304 +>>2562296 +Buy a couple and place them in a line. Either potted or in the ground. +I don't live in a climate where anyone would need shade so I can't actually help you +--- 2562558 +>>2562238 (OP) +>>2562251 +Dear future /hgm/ OP, +The current unnumbered /hgm/ thread is #366. Try not to fuck it up this time. +Hugs and kisses, +Anon +--- 2562570 +>>2562289 +How much of the space do you want to shade and what are you shading? + +If you just want a space to sit and enjoy your garden then an umbrella is going to be the easiest option. +If you need to cover a larger outdoor living space then sun shades or shade cloth would be the simplest and cheapest, just need posts or trees to attach it to. Ugly though, building a gazebo or pergola would fulfill the same purpose and look much nicer especially if you get some grapevines or whatever growing over it. + +If you're looking to protect a vegetable garden from the heat then either build a shade house or hang some shade cloth over the garden depending on how much of the garden you need to protect. Shade cloth comes in varying densities depending on how much UV protection you need. Bear in mind that you'll need to maintain ventilation - a dark, high density shadecloth that hangs down over the sides of the garden is going to increase heat rather than reduce it. +You could possibly also build some trellises or a pergola over the garden beds. More work obviously but if you do it right you'd provide enough shade to cool the garden beds but not so much shade that they'll be unable to grow, as well a providing additional growing with whatever vines you have over the trellises. +--- 2562640 +>>2562570 +What's the best way to hang shade cloth keeping in mind that high winds are common so it will either have to be very strong or easily taken down? +--- 2562642 +>>2562570 +Oh also I'd like to be able to shade all of that 200 square feet. It's for a garden. Potatoes, onions, various cucurbits, rutabaga, artichoke, and a couple other random things. +--- 2562646 +>>2562238 (OP) +When I went to the garden centre last weekend, the gardeners told me that you can grow dwarf fruit trees in ordinary patio pots. The trees will remain small and not grow their full height, but you will still get some fruits from the trees. So a bought a few and potted them out in 40L pots. But today I got curious and googled potted fruit trees and some websites say that you need to constantly expand the size of the pots every year so that they can grow, which is defeating the point of wanting the trees and pots to be compact. + +Can I just keep these trees in the 40L pots and keep the trees small by pruning them or something? All the trees I got were the dwarf type. +--- 2562648 +>>2562558 +Sorry anon I will MSPaint in a number if I make another OP I usually dont bake the thread only did it because no one else had. +--- 2562649 +>>2562646 +My grandmother has a pomegranate tree & lime tree in her screened in back porch and has not up potted them in years and they still produce fruit/are still kicking. I honestly would not worry about it much just give them nutrients/fertilizer regularly and they will be fine. +--- 2562658 +>>2562640 +>What's the best way to hang shade cloth keeping in mind that high winds are common so it will either have to be very strong or easily taken down? +Honestly, I'm not sure. For a 200 ft area I assume you'd need to look at what commercial operations are doing and googling various combinations of agricultural sun shade / livestock shade sail / etc doesn't show much that looks easy to take down during harsh weather. +--- 2562739 +>>2562648 +Well now I feel bad for busting your balls about it. It's all good Anon, thank you for baking. +--- 2562863 +>>2562289 +plant sunflowers +--- 2562872 +Transplanted my bell pepper sprouts today. I'm pretty sure I snapped some of the roots in the process, but I have high hopes they'll pull through. +--- 2562963 +>>2562863 +Well they are native here so I'm sure they'd grow. +--- 2562978 +>>2562241 +>bean grower +they prefer to be called "beaners" +--- 2562989 +>>2562241 +From what I've read it's anywhere between 4-12 plants all the way up to 50 plants per person. I average 1.5-3 pounds of dried beans per 25ft row at 3" spacing. And of course the yields vary on the varieties grown. +--- 2563080 +>>2562649 +That sounds good, guy at the garden centre said to just give it a feeding and it will be fine, like your grandmother's. Hopefully get some nice fruit in a couple of years. +--- 2563111 +>>2562241 +I plant as much as much as I can. The only thing stopping me is +>land available +>seed available +>how much can I possibly plant, grow and harvest by myself (if it stores easily then plant more, if it's something that needs to be consumed fast before it goes bad then plant less) +Beans store well, so there is no upper limit to amount of beans I could grow. +If I have to stuff all the rooms in my house with beans and use them as a seat I'd be euphoric. +If I have to open an door and beans come flooding out of it like water, I'd be ecstatic. +God I think of a giant granary filled with some seeds I grown and harvested myself and I feel genuine excitement rivaling flying your own plane that you built. +--- 2563135 +>>2562276 +>what is a weather report +--- 2563539 +>>2562289 +Made one of these monkey huts for a festival years ago. I set it up at the peak of summer over my garden. Looks like a more durable design has been made in the interim. +https://www.instructables.com/Monkey-Hut/ +https://www.instructables.com/Build-a-Something-Stronger-Than-a-Monkey-Hut-Build/ +--- 2563549 +>>2563539 +Ew why do you live in the fucking desert? +--- 2563573 +>>2563549 +i dont thats a google pic but theyre popular at burning man which should be a testament to their ability to withstand wind +--- 2563628 +>>2562276 +easy mode? Those seeds have to be wet forever to germ. This shit grows in the wild god has given you a gift amigo. +--- 2563799 +Rate my Sneeds purchase... im in zone 10a Greece, havent sowed them yet but will this month... +--- 2563811 +>>2563628 +he planted seedlings +--- 2563826 +>>2561477 → +50%+ of it already germinated :) +--- 2563871 +>>2562872 +they look good anon. some fuzzy cunt ate the leaves on the one I planted. I guess I need neem oil or some shit +--- 2563886 +Newfag here. Set up some plastic garden fencing yesterday and it looks like shit. Can't get it to look nice, it's just all floppy and fucked. +Should I just get metal wire fences instead? Or is there a specific way to install plastic fencing? Also I live in a very hot and sunny climate, and in my experience plastic tends to get brittle when left outdoors around here. +--- 2563887 +>>2563799 +(formerly chuck's) +--- 2563951 +Totally full, hopefully I can get some stuff outside to start to harden off in two weeks +--- 2563953 +>>2563951 +Edit: because we still have to seed the cucurbits +--- 2564019 +Can brief exposure to the cold harm tomato seedlings? I need to carry my tomato seedling trays to my greenhouse in the morning and back inside in the evening. This time of the year the temperature outside is usually above the freezing point. Each trip the seedlings would spend about 30 seconds outside. At some point i will start heating the greenhouse during the night but that won't be for a while yet. +--- 2564024 +>>2564019 +30 seconds isn't going to harm them unless it's really fucking cold out +--- 2564027 +always wanted to give growing some stuff a go, but no garden. +Grocery store is having a gardening sale going and they sell a 1m flowerbox (which seem to be pretty rare) for 3€. Its 100 x 17 x 14. + +It has 2cm standoffs on the bottom and I was thinking about buying the saucer for it too, drill some holes in it, cut it to size and put it on the standoffs for a watertank? +It seems like to be foolproof with watering that way. +Would that be enough space for the roots and water down there? Would 12cm of soil be enough? +I was planning to put some strawberries, small tomatoes and herbs in it. +Would there be any benefit to having 2 x 50cm boxes instead of a 1m one? +--- 2564029 +>>2564027 +should maybe convert. +Flowerbox is about 40 x 6,5 x 5,5 inch +--- 2564042 +>>2564027 +I have a single strawberry growing in about 16cm deep soil, in a pot that's 22cm diameter at the top (standard 10in pot here in Burgerland). It was planted from seed and has lived long enough to start producing berries since about a month ago. +The box you're looking at might be a tiny bit shallow, but strawberries and herbs will probably do fine in it. I don't know enough about small tomato plants to say about that one though. I would give it plenty of small holes all over the bottom to minimize water standing in it. +If you're going to move them around, you might want the two smaller boxes instead of one big heavy awkwardly shaped one. +--- 2564065 +>>2564042 +that makes sense and haven't even thought about it. Will go for the 50cm ones then. +They are running sale on soil, small plants too (i think its called cuttings?). 6x strawberries for 5€, cocktail tomatoe for 1€ and might try peppers too. +No idea how quality they will be, but i'd pay like 20€ for everything. +And if this goes well next year I'll go with seeds. + +>>2564027 +think i should try to explain myself better on the watertank idea. Thinking about something like the pic, but diy with cutting a piece of plastic to fit into the box. Drill holes into the false bottom and glue a plastic bottle in as a funnel for water. + +Or is it trash and I shouldn't bother and just use the saucer for it normally? +--- 2564076 +>>2564065 +Yeah thats how self watering containers work +--- 2564101 +>>2564065 +For the part that protrudes down into the water, you could maybe use a little yogurt cup or something like that. I wonder if hot glue would survive the elements? With or without, it would stay in place long enough to fill the whole thing with dirt anyway. +I like your DIY style, that's how I've been doing a lot of things in my apartment gardening too. Got to put all those ricotta cheese and sour cream containers I've hoarded to use somehow. +--- 2564123 +>>2564101 +it's a pretty funny story actually! Yesterday I bought strawberries on sale and they were terrible (like always). +Was determined to try myself now. Went on amazon put in strawberries, tomatoes, fertilizer and a flowerbox with watertank in the cart. Ended up being 60€, but decided to hold on it, because I'll have to check the store for soil anyways and I thought they might have plants too. +Thursday they always change up their deals and as is if it's destiny its a whole gardening week. +The only thing they don't sell is a box with a water tank, but that motivated me to DIY it! +I'll get back there tomorrow with something to carry all that stuff and see if I can post some pics in here. +I'll have to see if I can borrow a hot glue gun from a neighbour. Otherwise I thought ducktape might do. +>Got to put all those ricotta cheese and sour cream containers I've hoarded to use somehow +I stop at glasjars, but well.. I can never have enough. +I always have some empty cans or bottles, because we pay a deposit and get it back when we bring them back to the store. +First I thought this tall and thin can (like redbull) would do perfectly, but aluminium should be avoided im sure. +--- 2564140 +>>2564123 +>Thursday they always change up their deals and as is if it's destiny its a whole gardening week +A sign from above if I ever saw one. +--- 2564189 +yall grow any drugs? +--- 2564217 +>>2564189 +i'm thinking on and off about cannabis growing, but I'm also not a fan of me smoking. A friend has a decent sized indoor tent and he got 150-200g out of it the first time. +I'd probably sell half of it to get back power and money from the tent, but i really don't want to be around 80g of weed. I'm the worst breed of stoner whenever I'm alone and around weed. I'd straight up throw a month away 24/7 stoned. +Also I don't want a tent with a vent in my apartment. + +The only thing I can see myself doing it is one or two small plants outdoor hidden in a near forest area (its not legal here) per season +--- 2564232 +How the fuck is Sheffield selling 3000 teaberry seeds for only $26? This has to be fake or something right? That's a lot of fucking teaberry seeds. Do they grow hundreds of acres of it or something? +--- 2564252 +>saplings appear purplish on leaves +>worried +>read online +>likely cause is phosphorus deficiency +>ok +>don't have any fertiliser rich in phospho at hand +>instead found a fert bag for flowers +>never used this before +>seems to be high in P according to the label +>oh well, this will do +>put some of it after work +>the next morning +>all 6 of my 2-3 weeks old cherry tomato saplings wilted and died +>... +Don't be me. +--- 2564256 +>>2564252 +its natural for peppers and tomato seedlings to be purple on the leaves and stems. Ya done goofed kid. +--- 2564259 +>>2564256 +I ignored it at first but even the veins turned into purple. And spotty. My previous tomato saplings displayed none of these purple colouration. Either way, don't be dumb like me. +--- 2564263 +P Subs +--- 2564264 +>>2564189 +I (well, really, my wife looks does most of the gardening) grow opium poppies. More out of curiosity to see whether we could extract any useable product than anything else. We haven't used any since the first couple of seasons. +--- 2564282 +>>2564252 +>man in his hubris tries to fix a problem that is in his head by outside means +--- 2564366 +potatoes just arrived. What do you guys grow your taters in? +--- 2564407 +>>2564264 +I have been very interested in growing opium poppies since I learned how to grow cubensis, I even bought a couple books. I’m only now living in a place with an inconspicuous back yard but my roommates are urging me not to, out of better judgment. Where you able to milk the poppies successfully and make something out of the latex? I wanted to try and make smoking opium and larp as a Manchu-oppressed Han chinaman. +--- 2564408 +What do you guys think about attaching cheap gutters to the insides of my backyard fence, capping them off, drilling some drainage holes in the bottom, lining with landscaping fabric, filling with potting soil and growing strawberries out of? Feasible? +--- 2564415 +>>2562646 +>>2562649 +I assume potted fruit trees produce much less than inground trees, correct...? +--- 2564417 +>>2564408 +It's a common vertical garden. So yes. But best for greens not big veggies. Although you could probably get away with strawberries. +--- 2564418 +>>2563111 +What about the beans sold at a supermarket? 1kg bag should be enough to plant, harvest, and replant. +--- 2564424 +>>2564408 +I cant remember but I watched a guy on youtube who exclusively farmed strawberries out of rain gutters. If you look it up you could probably find his tutorials. +--- 2564425 +>>2564415 +What kind of tree are we talking? In most cases yes a potted tree will produce less. +--- 2564433 +>>2564366 +I've tried in the ground, poly bags, grow bags, straw. +--- 2564444 +>>2564424 +damn there's an influencer for everything these day +--- 2564531 +>>2564407 +not him but in college i had a few 5 gallon pots full of poppies on my balcony. maybe like 3 pots, maybe 4 or 5 plants per pot. +lanced and i got a little tiny crumb of opium. smoked it with some friends and really only got a few solid hits off. but it was a neat experience and a headrush that i hadn't felt before. it has a pleasant floral scent. +however, i did blend up the pods, boil them in water, and drank the tea. and that was a good dozen or so doses. very unpleasant, poppy tea is not trivial to choke back. +i think the metric was something like, each pod has about 10mg of morphine, which is like a single morphine pill. that's not very much, they normally start people out on like 15mg morphine tablets. +even if you had a properly large bed of them, you don't get all that much of a harvest. you'd need acres to have anything more than just "fuck around" amounts. +id say, it's fine to grow them. i wouldn't grow a huge bed of them. grow wildflowers and maybe have some poppies mixed in. no one has an entire bed of poppies, and it might give you some negative attention. +i don't know if lancing is really worth it on such a small scale, when you could just process the whole pod down to tea. you'd really need a ton of plants to have an actual ball of opium. +--- 2564545 +Mother keeps putting humidity domes on already sprouted seedlings saying the moisture helps them grow. +My understanding is that humidity domes are for germination and specialised plants that prefer humid conditions, and that most plants risk mold issues if you keep them under a humidity dome. + +Which of us is right? +--- 2564550 +>>2564189 +Just ordered some Mars Hydro lights. +First seed failed to germinate, trying again after a 24hr water soak with a new one. +Might plant outdoor once established +--- 2564558 +>>2564545 +Humidity domes are bad once they're seedlings. They need fresh air and the humidity can promote disease. +--- 2564606 +Do you guys have nicknames for stuff in your environment? Like when I see a cardinal it's cardi b and when i see a blue jay it's jay z and even my fence post is post malone. (Doesn't have to be rappers though) +--- 2564654 +>>2564550 +look into gibberelic acid. i soak all my difficult seeds, and anecdotally at least it makes a big difference. +--- 2564657 +>>2564550 +>Mars Hydro +keep a fire extinguisher nearby +--- 2564691 +My garden should make an appearance next week. Currently covered with snow, but the temperature will rocket to 22C on Monday. +--- 2564713 +Can i use foliar fertilizer for soil drench? How should i dilute it? +--- 2564725 +Is this place ok to talk about growing weed and sharing pics of our grows? +--- 2564727 +>>2564217 +>>The only thing I can see myself doing it is one or two small plants outdoor hidden in a near forest area (its not legal here) per season +guerilla growing. Local overseers or teens will find your grow spot and seize it. +--- 2564729 +>>2564264 +Home grown poppy tea is valid. +--- 2564737 +>>2564725 +see the conversation immediately above about growing drugs +--- 2564754 +>>2564657 +Fuck. +If it's that bad I'll return it... +--- 2564780 +Found these (n)wiggers in my garden. Am I fucked? +--- 2564790 +>>2564780 +Grubs +--- 2564791 +>>2564780 +Do they crawl on their stomach, side or back? +--- 2564792 +>>2564727 +Its not that bad kids dont go into the forest anymore I'm just scared of the foragers +--- 2564793 +>>2564780 +it's over +--- 2564794 +>bought wild strawberry seeds for fun +>read packet +>sowed in the fall or early in the spring +>before sowing they are held 2 months at -5C +>before sowing in spring they are mixed with sand +>sprouts will grow in 30-40 days +AHHHH wtf is this shit, you mean they aren't pre stratisfied, I dont' have 2 fucking months to chill their ass +The fuck do I do. It's time to start sprouting them, the temperatures outside are getting warmer(last frost date is 1 month away) +Do I just fucking plant them and hope for the best? +Do I throw them into the freezer for a couple of days and hope for the best. +Ah AH the fuck do I do?! Time is running out! T-t-time is running out! +https://youtu.be/w7Vu8_EQVXc?t=76 [Embed] +--- 2564795 +>>2564418 +>What about the beans sold at a supermarket? +You should test if they are viable and will germinate. soak some and see if they sprout. +And take into account that particular beans temperature and other needs. +Or wait, were you suggesting and not asking? +--- 2564798 +>>2564794 +Put them in the fridge or freezer and try to remember for next season +--- 2564799 +>>2564798 +Ehhh, I could buy more seeds for next season, it didn't cost me much. +Is there any hope of sowing them into the cold ground and hoping for the best? +I imagine the biggest issue with that is even if they do sprout, weeds might overtake them. Guess I should mark out an area keep it weed free and hope for the best. +--- 2564803 +>>2564799 +Maybe. It's certainly cold enough around here to stratify them. +--- 2564829 +>bought bunch of seeds of different things and varieties +>planing out which ones to direct sow, which ones to start indoors and transplant outside +My feels are exactly like this: +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM [Embed] +--- 2564889 +Anyone here successfully gotten stevia to grow and have tips? I have failed 3 times now and I just want to give up on this shit. I just want to be able to pull a fresh leaf to sweeten a tea once a week. +--- 2564891 +I've did the thing. I think I'm pretty happy with how it turned out. +I've decided to just use another box for the water tank. Just glued some lego in to have enough space between them. + +The strawberries are probably too close to another? I didn't realize at first but the ones I bought were female only so I had to get one more. +I might get another set of boxes on monday so I can spread stuff around a bit more. +Also should I use fertilizer right away or wait for some days? +--- 2564901 +I miss soil blocks... +Need some way than to rush in twelve 1020 trays if it starts raining. +--- 2564945 +>>2564891 +Looks great anon! It's even a perfect fit for the window. +>female only strawberries +I'm not aware that any such thing exists, the flowers have both parts necessary for pollination (which btw you'll have to do yourself). Is that what the label said they are? +>should I use fertilizer right away or wait for some days? +Fresh soil should contain enough nutrients to get everything started, so don't worry about it for now. +--- 2564960 +>>2564945 +Thanks. It did say say so on the tray. It's called Mieze Schindler +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strasberry +--- 2564961 +>>2563886 +I would go with metal wire type fencing because plastic is the devil. Also when you buy those big rolls of fencing you can use the extra to make trellises and stuff. +--- 2564962 +>>2564960 +Oh I see, not the type of strawberry I was expecting. Still, I hope you enjoy growing them! +--- 2564963 +>>2564962 +Yea I was actually looking to buy 'normal' ones, but just grabbed the tray of strawberries without really checking, but i don't really want to throw them out now. +I might replace some of them next week. I got Senga Sengana for pollination +--- 2565050 +>>2564960 +>Mieze Schindler +i also bought that but died on my bcuz the online nursery sucks hard and came full of spidermites and mostly systemic fungal disease that didnt go away with fosetil, i must buy them soon too, also there are more strasberry varieties, all i can find is: + +-Mieze Schindler +-Framberry +-Framberry Red dream +-Framberry anared + +not sure if so many actually exist but the ones that are not mieze are presumably self fertile +--- 2565058 +>>2564794 +They don't NEED to be stratified. I sowed Baron Von Solemacher seeds in February and now have 10 plants from one packet. Germination rate was quite low however so maybe stratification would've given better results. +--- 2565182 +can I grow spring onions in clumps? I scattered a bunch of seed in a raised bed and they've germinated close together +--- 2565195 +>>2565182 +the ones ive got in a patch up against each other are faring better than the row of them i planted. i think thats why they call them bunching onions +--- 2565265 +>spent all day preparing the soil, planting in the sun with just my underwear, boots and gloves on +My body is red from the sunburn, but it's a light one that doesn't hurt, only lets me "feel it" +Multiple different planting methods of varrying effort level. +We shall see what and how it will grow. +Holy fuck im tired though +--- 2565272 +>>2565265 +Congrats on the tan tanon, working outside is a bitch. Built some garden beds to replace my old ones on the backside of my house yesterday, it fucked me up +--- 2565276 +Besides sunflowers, what else should a newb try in this abysmal sad brick wall landscape in the desert? +My water bill is not cheap, but I'm not on a budget, I want sick ass plants that cover this shit brick wall. My fabric bags rotted. I want to get 5 gal plastic nursery pots or 5 gal buckets still I hear they hold water better. +--- 2565281 +>>2565276 +cute kot :) +--- 2565289 +>>2565272 +Look at what I'm dealing with. +--- 2565291 +>>2562646 +We had an orange and a grapefruit an maybe 3-5 gallon pots for about 15 years. These were seedlings so not dwarf but they stayed relatively small (~4' for the orange and ~8' for the grapefruit) and they bloomed a few times but never ripened fruit. Eventually we left them outside during a surprise frost and they died. +>>2564232 +Aren't there like 100 seeds in each berry? It's not that much really. Also most of them probably won't grow 'cause those itty bitty seeds that require stratification are a real pain in the ass. +--- 2565295 +>>2562241 +I get about .5lbs of dry beans per linear foot of row +--- 2565296 +>>2564019 +As long as it's always above freezing it should be fine but I doubt it will grow in cold weather. Usually I'd transplant them only after the last frost date +>>2564780 +https://extension.umn.edu/yard-and-garden-insects/japanese-beetles +Does your lawn have signs of Japanese Beetle attacks? Post pictures of the larva's underside +>>2565276 +Aloe plants could be fun to try. There's a lot of different varieties from ones that grow on the ground to ones as tall as trees and they have a variety of colors. Some cultivars such as Aloe Vera have been grown for their juice which is said to help with sunburns. Also they're arid plants that like sandy soil so you don't have to worry about watering them as much +--- 2565367 +New beds going down, lads. If you've never made one, it's super easy. Every level is just 3 planks of wood, one cut in half for the ends. 4x4 in the corners for support. + +Is it the cheapest? No. But if you like the wooden ones, you can make a single level for about $50 +--- 2565417 +>>2565276 +Tomatos, peppers and basil +They are all easy to grow and can make pasta sauce and other stuff +--- 2565434 +>>2565182 +Their stringy roots make it possible to separate then easily. Bunched up they won't make nice bulbs. Just dig them up, pull them apart, and space appropriately +--- 2565523 +>>2565367 +>raised beds +why not lowered beds? +--- 2565538 +Did you know there is different size and color of fava beans? +--- 2565569 +Survived the summer. +Serious damage to fruit trees from birds, lost half the cane berries to a bone dry summer and late autumn. +Composts failing, machinery broken, weeds out of control, shortage of soil/sand/mulch. Not a good year. +--- 2565570 +>>2564725 +No. +It attracts people who don't actually grow anything and just want to weed lmao. If you're not smart enough to keep it on the low don't post online at all. Delete sys32, it's in your own interest +--- 2565571 +>>2564408 +It would work just fine, not a bad way to grow strawberries. But for various reasons I'd recommend growing something like passionfruit vines +--- 2565572 +>>2564252 +>read online +There's your problem, nothing online is reliable. SEO optimization doesn't qualify you as a horticultural expert and plagurists always reach a concensus +--- 2565573 +>>2564232 +Commercial seed really is that cheap. +Gardeners buy packet seed, smallfarmers retain crops for seed, Commercial farmers grow a crop just for seed. +--- 2565575 +Compare this +--- 2565576 +>>2565575 +to this and tell me why the difference in your theory. +--- 2565614 +>>2562238 (OP) +Best practices to follow and newbish mistakes to avoid when transferring small plants from water to soil? +--- 2565659 +>>2564415 +yes they produce much less & much smaller fruit depending on the size of your container, soil quality, & nutrients that you feed it. +--- 2565664 +Spring here is so obnoxiously tantalizing. Was -1c yesterday. Can I risk planting my roses, grapes, hydrangeas and Moss Phlox? +--- 2565665 +>>2565614 +don't throw them into the hot sun to get cooked. +--- 2565722 +>>2565289 +kek that’s so fucked up, holy shit +--- 2565759 +>>2565722 +Elaborate? +--- 2565767 +>>2565575 +>>2565576 +Anon what is this? +--- 2565770 +>>2565767 +rye +--- 2565813 +>>2565759 +I assume that the photo is showing tilled soil that was thick with roots. Digging even a relatively small hole in soil thick with roots is fucking hard, I don’t think I would even bother trying to till soil that infested. +--- 2565817 +>pomegranate isnt growing leaves, completely bald + +i...its... its because its focusing in growing roots right ?? +--- 2565818 +oh fuck I got another mole on my neck +wear sunscreen /hmg/bros +--- 2565820 +>Newfag to gardening +>Look up plants to try +>Oh mint I like mint! +>Dump in the whole seed packet like a dumbass +>One of my raised beds is now a mint containment zone +I guess mint likes me too +--- 2565828 +>>2562271 +Any of you ever have a gardening related job? How did you get it? +--- 2565830 +Did mean to quote anon sorry I'm retarded +--- 2565831 +Didn't* + +FUCK +--- 2565833 +>>2565820 +>containment zone +No one tell him. +--- 2565872 +>>2565833 +Dubs of painful truth. That anon is a mint farmer now +--- 2565895 +>>2565813 +It gets worse. Those roots? Thats' Elderweed. It grows as a thick carpet across the entire area and it's all connected. If even a little bit of the root stays behind, it regrows into more elderweed. If you cut down elderweed in one place the elderweed in another place will funnel nutrients to the place where you did cut it down and regrow it through the thickest mulch you can imagine, you literally can't block it out from the sun, because it just gathers sun from other places and sends it there. +It regrows and out competes things because of that. It starts growing earliest spring with the any other earliest plant you can think of. + +The picture shows 1 shovel depth layer taken and flipped over, and some of the top dirt raked off. This thick carpet covers everything in my garden. +--- 2565902 +>>2565895 +Just teach yourself biochemistry and discover novel compound in the elderweed that can cure cancer or some shit. Boom, a curse into a blessing. In all seriousness, I’m so fucking sorry for your plight. I pray God delivers you the strength to extinguish the scourge. +--- 2565903 +>>2565902 +Oh there is a benefit to elderweed. It's only really a problem if, and only if, you want to plant something else in said area. +> I pray God delivers you the strength +As I shape the land, so too, does the land shape me. +--- 2565906 +>>2565903 +Amen. + +I just read up on it, apparently it was popular with the Romans as a food plant for its tender fresh spring leaves and popular with the monks later on for medicinal and sedative properties. If it wasn’t so prolific I might even think to plant some myself, if only to experiment with these alleged sedative properties. +--- 2565910 +>>2564263 +very nice +private patch or in the wild. + +mine went too dry and never fruited... +--- 2565917 +>>2562238 (OP) +I have a few fruit trees and a couple of garden beds. Got about 20 plants going in a hydroponics setup in the sun room. Mostly lettuce, herbs, and strawberries. +--- 2565922 +>>2562238 (OP) +Tried magic mushrooms a year or so ago and was really interesting. + +Got them off an old coworker who supposedly just picks them around. How do you go about learning what to look for when trying to find some? Or some beginner ones to try that is difficult to mistake for a bad one? + +Also if you pinch the stem and it goes kind of blue that means it's good right +--- 2565924 +>>2565922 +You're going to die. You'll pick a deadly Amanita species and say goodbye to your kidneys or liver. Unless you live along the gulf coast and have access to cow pastures, and know how to take spore prints and have a microscope to identify spore, your best bet is to find a friend who knows where to get mushies. It's not hard to find a source if you hang with the right people. +--- 2565938 +>>2565664 +All of those are perennials. You're not supposed to wait for last frost so long as they are dormant plants, you plant them as soon as you can. Do they have leaves? I would probably plant them even if they have leaves and maybe cover them if it freezes. +--- 2565969 +Where's the best place to buy corn seeds? I'm considering growing corn because, last year, a rogue cornplant ended up in my yard (in july, somehow) and grew almost to maturity before perishing when winter slapped its tits. +--- 2565973 +>>2565917 +australia? +--- 2565978 +>once stack done +oh boy... +--- 2566015 +>>2565924 +Well I'm from Australia. Surely species will be diff here right? I took pics of the one so was given. They were small and brown. + +Would all the ones that grow randomly in the backyard be dangerous lol +--- 2566023 +>>2566015 +Not that anon, but the issue is that the price of a mistake is worth extra caution. +A mushroom from your yard could be dangerous. I mean, you wouldn't eat every flower in your garden. +--- 2566028 +>>2565978 +are you making bricks? +--- 2566036 +>>2566028 +What else am I going to shit? +--- 2566048 +Has anyone ever let their yard go feral? I have a screened in pool surrounded by empty backyard. I want to let the empty backyard go apeshit but am concerned about how it may look in a couple years. +--- 2566053 +>>2562238 (OP) +Lol so I have a pumpkin plant getting a bit crazy and out of controll. Is it just a matter of cutting it back from where I don't want it growing or is there a proper way to snip it back? I only have like 2 or 3 fruits off it too . +--- 2566057 +>>2562238 (OP) +what's happening to my poor pothos? its leaves started turning yellow about a week ago. it's been in this spot for about a year now +--- 2566058 +Last frost for me is like may 15th. I haven't started my seeds yet. Do I have time if I start this week? +--- 2566059 +>>2566058 +>Last frost for me is like may 15th. +BROTHER! finally somebody who shares my fate. +>I haven't started my seeds yet. Do I have time if I start this week? +Seeds for what anon, it all depends on what you are growing. and also when your first frost day is. +--- 2566070 +>>2566059 +I'm not sure yet. Probably various things. I was gonna do pots but maybe I should get out there and till some land for some crops and build some boxes. Idk. Definitely wanna grow some tomatoes strawberries and peppers. Not sure. I failed miserably last year to produce much of anything lmao +--- 2566071 +>>2566059 +Also I live in southern Colorado where first first is October 5th but really you can keep things growing into November I think depending on weather. +--- 2566076 +>>2566070 +Land is where plants belong, potting is only for people who have no access to land to plant. +Pots in plants depends on the human to take care of them to the full extent. Plants in the land, can do their own thing and survive far more without human intervention. +>raised beds +good for plants that need good drainage, inversely kinda poor for plants that need more moisture as the soil dies off quicker and the roots dont go as deep into the ground where the moisture is. +>peppers +need to be started early, like right now from seeds and then transplated later when it's warm +>strberries +bitch to germinate from seed, slow to grow and require stratification shit for more success, also would start seedlings now +>tomatooes +similar to peppers but less so, if I remember correctly +>Also I live in southern Colorado where first first is October 5th +I wont tell you where I am but I had my first frost in fucking august last year after weeks of 86F temps +my growing season is tight tight TIGHT! +--- 2566177 +>200 strawberry seeds planted +lets see what the germination rate on these suckers are. +I expect 10% +--- 2566224 +>>2566177 +Anecdata: I planted 40 seeds total, in two batches of 20 several weeks apart. 3 sprouted in the first group and all grew healthy, but succumbed to a spider mite infestation that I could never get under control. 2 sprouted in the second group, but one must have had some kind of weird mutation because it never grew more than a quarter inch tall sprout. The remaining plant (which has never been put outside) is the only survivor of the experiment. +--- 2566232 +>>2566224 +My last experiment had like I dunno 50 planted +10 sprouted, 3 survived and grew. heres them +--- 2566233 +>>2566232 +same three later +--- 2566243 +So I had a garden like fifteen years ago. It's overgrown with weeds and bushes and stuff. What's my best course of action here? Do I need to remove all the soil there and replace it? That seems time consuming a bit ' +--- 2566258 +>>2566243 +Throw cardboard on top. +Cover that mulch. +Cut holes to plant. + +Your could also till the fuck out of it which you might need to do anyways if.its compacted. +--- 2566271 +>>2565276 +southwest (basically) low desert here, besides those try Hibiscus acetosella and Hibiscus sabdariffa +Moringa +If you can deal with thorns Bougainvillea +--- 2566292 +>>2566258 +>Throw cardboard on top. +>Cover that mulch. +>Cut holes to plant. +> +>Your could also till the fuck out of it which you might need to do anyways if.its compacted. +I'm definitely gonna take a weed whacker to it but the cardboard method is not too bad of an idea all things consider +--- 2566296 +>>2566258 +if it worked for CHAZ, it works for me. +--- 2566312 +>>2566243 +green manure all the weeds and stuff growing on your plot with a brush hog or weed eater your choice depending on how bad it is then plow/till all that biomatter into the soil. +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_manure +--- 2566313 +>>2565978 +What is your soil? +--- 2566332 +>>2566057 +--- 2566334 +>>2566332 +--- 2566352 +>>2566233 +are those alpines or regular? +--- 2566426 +do seed bombs really work? there's this shitty abandoned lot i walk buy practically every day, and I've been thinking about the viability of tossing widlflower seeds or something into the lot. it's got some shitty patchy grass on it but that's it. +--- 2566467 +>>2566313 +it's this, a bit clayish +--- 2566468 +>>2566352 +alpines +>>2566426 +answer is:depends +what is the goal +what seeds used +what the soil is like +what the weater is like +etc +But yeah the most important question is what do you want to achieve. +--- 2566470 +Does anyone else watch Self Sufficient Me +--- 2566475 +>>2566470 +I like the videos I've seen of his. +--- 2566476 +>>2566470 +it bothers me he does't say "lets dig into it" +--- 2566482 +>>2565973 +Yeah mate +--- 2566485 +This grew out of lemongrass packet. I knew it looked different from the lemongrass seedlings but i grew it out to find out what it is. Now it's starting to overtake my lemongrass pot so it has to go out. Is this just some weed or something worth moving to a different pot? Plant identifying apps dont help. +--- 2566486 +>>2566485 +forgot pic +--- 2566495 +>>2562238 (OP) +>alliums suddenly sprouting from dirt out of nowhere +>I don't even remember planting seeds for them +--- 2566500 +>>2563799 +Why didn't you get any Thrace Melons? They are an old Greek heirloom variety +--- 2566513 +>>2566470 +Yeah i used his code to buy cheap garden beds, saved me like $250 on 10 garden beds. I think he's good for amateurs and people just getting into gardenign. +--- 2566521 +>>2565820 +mints are practically a weed, of you can get them to germinate that is +--- 2566522 +>>2565917 +Jealous, we should have kept the convicts here are moved out +--- 2566523 +>>2566486 +Reminds me of tobacco, where did you buy your seeds? +--- 2566524 +>>2566523 +>tobacco +--- 2566540 +>>2566470 +of course, great lad +--- 2566543 +>>2564407 +>>2564531 +>>2564264 +fellas +how long do they take to sprout from seed +im going crazy over here and my seeds are at half the ammount I bought and not any reliable aprouting happened +I keep the area moist, and the seeds are above the soil and with sunlight +do they just take fuckton of time? is it too hot? I need advice from more experienced gardeners +--- 2566549 +I live in a tropical country now but I really want to grow the vegetables I used to enjoy back home. +Any guides/books out there on how to grow temperate crops like carrots, cabbages, beets, radishes, celery, potatoes, etc despite the heat of the tropical sun? I don't want to be limited to be able to grow them only during the winter months. I'm living only a few meters above sea level, and near the coast so the average temp is around 27°C. +I have already accepted that I may never be able to grow my favorite parsnips and leeks here, or blackberries and strawberries, but in exchange for that I will be able to enjoy tomatoes, cucumbers and melons the entire year. +I was thinking of designing raised beds that use evaporative cooling to create a microclimate to suit the temperate root crops like potatoes and carrots. Has anyone done something similar to this before? +--- 2566557 +Mein Mieze Schindler plonts arrived, thanks for your attentien +--- 2566559 +Is nanking cherry any good? Was thinking of getting a few to fill a "hardy fruiting shrub" niche. +--- 2566579 +>>2565265 +>spent all day preparing the soil, planting in the sun with just my underwear, boots and gloves on +based +I do that too when I can +that vitamin d boost +--- 2566583 +>>2566470 +great lad +honestly the only one I follow regularly on the youtube gardening +unlike everyone else he's not full of shit, condescendence, or hippie bullshit +I hate the feel good gardeners like epic gardening that are always smiling dumbly like gardening is so easy +SSM is a man, has a family and kids, and shows his passion for everyone, and has a shitton of practical experience + +he does do some epiosdes that are kinda similar but what can you do +--- 2566649 +>>2563951 +A beaut, very neat and organized, wish i had a grow tent so bad. Do you buy your soil premixed or do you have your own mixture you make? +--- 2566656 +Bell peppers shrugged off being transplanting like it never even happened. Guess they're hardier than I gave them credit for. It's still a little chilly out, so they'll get to stay inside and be pampered for a while longer. +--- 2566663 +>>2564252 +Can someone explain what exactly happened here? I understand it was likely a healthy group of plants and so it was a bunch of P added to non-P-deficient plants, overdosing or something. But it just surprises me to hear they all died within hours just from regular ol fertilizer. +--- 2566682 +To no-till or not to no-till...? +--- 2566687 +>Gradually, I grew to hate them. + +>>2566682 +It werks, after 3 years or so. Takes time to turn a barren waste into sexy black composted earth. +--- 2566690 +>>2566549 +I don't have any good books as I've never had to do it but you're going to need partial shade and/or sails and a lot more water than usual. There are tropical tolerant varietals and heirloom varieties that can handle the Deep South and many new world victuals came from the tropics so you have a lot of options to test and try out. + +Thinking about it, outdoor pot grows share a number of the same issues and those stoned fucks have ingenium when it comes to solutions. +--- 2566709 +>>2566682 +The smaller scale no till +Large till or some sort of hybrid approach. +Although with fresh land even no till benefits from an initial till +--- 2566713 +>>2566649 +Thanks anon. Back when we were doing soil blocks we made our own mix but we went with promix hp this year. +--- 2566725 +>>2566687 +free meat anon! +--- 2566731 +>>2566725 +I'm no tilling some onions and shallots and have nowhere to process free meat. +--- 2566741 +>>2566731 +hows that work? you just kick the leaves back and sow the bulbs directly? +--- 2566746 +i have 3-4 different IMOs now, must pick some moar b4 june +--- 2566747 +>>2566741 +Yeah. Pick out weeds or that creeping calycanthis there and you're good as long as there's enough sun and not too many roots. Seeding carrots with it would be ideal but deer don't fuck with onion as much and I haven't needed to wrap chicken wire for that. +--- 2566752 +>>2566741 +I have bigger fish to fry when it comes to gardening than being optimal. +--- 2566761 +My night watchman is old and has to come in at night. +--- 2566776 +which of the ornamental banana grows fast enough to grow of the leaves? +--- 2566781 +>>2566470 +gardener bogan alex jones +--- 2566790 +>>2566656 +Nice +My basil is sad and dying +--- 2566801 +Hey there anons! What type of palm and palm fruit is this? Thanks in advance. +--- 2566803 +>>2566801 +Upclose +--- 2566804 +>>2566761 +is his name Nigger-Man? +--- 2566805 +>>2566801 +>>2566803 +Sorry for the sideways photos, I couldn’t tell you why. +--- 2566829 +>>2566805 +That's how they're actually stored in your phone/camera, and there's a line of metadata that tells your image viewer how to rotate them. However, 4chan strips all metadata from images so people don't dox themselves, and doesn't correct for rotation first, so pictures that rely on this end up sideways here. +--- 2566831 +>>2566829 +this can be resolved by taking pictures correctly, ie: landscape instead of holding the phone vertically. +or, editing the picture in any photo editor, like paint +--- 2566838 +>>2566829 +Oh, interesting. Thanks for the info Anon. +>>2566831 +I’m one-handed, so it can be a bit challenging. The screen has also seen better days, so using my nose is a no-go. +--- 2566840 +>>2566838 +that is inconvenient. i was dicking around in the settings on mine to turn on gridlines and found settings for taking a picture with the volume buttons, as well as a little countdown timer so it'll go off after like 5 seconds. +or ya know, do it how you do it and rotate it in paint, that way you know it'll be right +--- 2566841 +Lesson finally learned. Never buy those boxed dormant plant starters. Something always goes wrong. +--- 2566898 +Did a little ritual last year, self fellatio in the garden, trying to encourage the growth of phallic veggies. We shall see! +--- 2566948 +>>2566841 +Elaborate. +--- 2566951 +>>2566470 +He’s great, very wholesome and not shy about showing his fuck ups +--- 2566953 +>>2566557 +Opa! +--- 2566954 +>>2566898 +You should handcraft small ceramic gnome sucking himself off in hopes of attracting a jolly little garden spirit into your home +--- 2566956 +>>2566543 +What is the temp during the day where you live? I sowed seeds when the days were peaking around high 50s low 60s (12-18 C) and they even endured a snap freeze, but took almost a month to start sprouting. I wasn’t even all that religious about watering them, because they got a blanket of light snow and a few rains. I actually sowed most of them with about a quarter inch (~6mm) of soil covering them, got some nice rosettes but I moved and had to leave them before they required any management. +--- 2566958 +>>2566954 +that would be cool. it probably wouldn't look out of place among a normal garden either. +--- 2566960 +>>2565922 +It’s legitimately easier to grow them yourself than to try and hunt for them in the wild. You can buy premade spore syringes (for ‘microscopy’) and pre-sterilized grain bags (for use growing only food or medicinal mushrooms, not illicit species) online, for damn cheap. As long as you’re only buy personal use quantities of these supplies the Feds aren’t going to waste resources on you. +--- 2567032 +you guys think pic is a good garden layout? Was hard to find anything online so I used chatgpt though it doesn't seem to respect its own rules. +>Tomato, Eggplant, and Chili: These plants are all in the same family (Solanaceae), so they can benefit from being grown together. However, they should not be planted near Brassica family plants (such as Dill), as this can lead to pest and disease problems. +>Dill and Cilantro: These plants are in the same family (Apiaceae) and can benefit from being grown together. +>Melon and Sunflowers: Melons can benefit from the shade provided by sunflowers, and sunflowers can benefit from the nitrogen-fixing properties of the melon's root system. +>Chickpeas and Cilantro/Parsley: These plants can benefit from being grown together, as cilantro and parsley can help to repel pests that can attack chickpeas. +>Mint: Mint is a good companion plant for many plants, as it can help to repel pests and attract beneficial insects. However, it can be invasive and should be planted in a separate container or area to prevent it from taking over the garden. +--- 2567036 +>>2567032 +how much fucking dill do you need? +--- 2567040 +>>2564606 +Cardi B +--- 2567044 +>>2567036 +idk the AI likes it apparently I would replace it with Cilantro. Still sucks very much at fitting given requirements I told it to respect 1x4m but as you can see it just doesn't care. +--- 2567046 +>>2566948 +Whenever I've bought dormant root starts from a store they've always ended up being dead or rotten. +--- 2567053 +>>2567046 +A big part of it is that they seem to bring the fucking things into the heated store interior instead of keeping them outside. So they come out of dormancy in the storeroom, and then by the time they hit the floor they're dead already. +--- 2567061 +>>2564232 +Teaberry is grown as a ground cover most of the time and it's fruit isn't really suitable for cooking or jam. although you can use it to flavor stuff. It must be like buying grass seed. You dump it all out in an empty area and hope the seeds stratify. +--- 2567063 +>>2567061 +It also has a piss poor germination rate and seems to die if you attempt to transplant it 100% of the time. If anyone knows the secrets to getting teaberry to survive in a garden, please be a friend and supply that information. +--- 2567066 +>>2567063 +>please be a friend and supply that information +Ordered some small teaberry runners with leaves last year and stuck them in the ground (Small layer of sandy loam backed by almost pure sand). About half of them died, and the rest are still dormant with reddish leaves save one, which I acquired through means outside of germination or ordering. I think the secret is to live in there native habitat, because I've found tons of them on trails not 30 minutes away from me. Did you try amending your soil? + +Also, I'm probably going to go through the same hell as you with Pink Lady Slippers, since I'm trying to start ten of them. +--- 2567162 +>>2567066 +I think a common trait for both plants is that they like broken sunlight and tend to thrive in the semi-shaded understory. Pink Lady Slippers in particular tend to show up on embankments and sandy patches, so to me that suggests they enjoy water running across their roots rather than soaking in. Which is, I believe, classic orchid behavior, just adapted to a temperate environment. It also means they're probably a massive pain in the ass. +--- 2567197 +>>2567044 +the AI is dilligent +--- 2567200 +>>2567162 +Sounds like periwinkle and other ground cover. Hardy as shit in the right environment but covering it with leaves in the fall seems counter intuitive. There are a lot of ground plants out there that do well in poor soil and bad light and I've seen it fail when you don't have those conditions. It's like those cabbage green looking things that only grow in bogs along shaded creeks. They're the only thing that grows there. +--- 2567201 +>>2567200 +>It's like those cabbage green looking things that only grow in bogs along shaded creeks. +skunk cabbage +--- 2567205 +>>2567063 +>die if you attempt to transplant it 100% of the time + +have you tried biodegradable pots ? these are always smol though +--- 2567207 +>tfw you realize that anatomically speaking kohlrabi, radish and beets are much like onions +--- 2567208 +>>2567207 +>all plants are evolving into onions +Oh my god. +--- 2567228 +When do you transplant your squash? Every year it quickly outgrows its container, won't be able to plant it outside for at least a month, unless I figure out how to save it from frost +--- 2567265 +>>2566663 +Excess of fertilizer can burn the roots. +Compare throwing too much fertilizer to the ground to throwing too much salt to your soup. +The only difference is that you, unlike the plant, can run away from over-salted food. +Google over-fertilization for more on that. +And next time, read dosing instructions for your fertiliser and don't give a seedling a dose suitable for a large potted plant. +--- 2567322 +>>2567201 +I think that's the stuff, never noticed it looking like this in late winter but now I know. +--- 2567475 +>>2567228 +I do it after the first two leaves are done forming, and I will usually harden the seedlings over the course of their growth before transplanting to get them used to the climate +--- 2567624 +Some small animal (probably a squirrel) dug up one of my newly buried potatoes and bit a few small chunks out of it before leaving it. When I found it this morning, It was mostly intact and I reburied it. It was a large seed potato. Could it still grow? +--- 2567639 +>>2567624 +It'll probably be fine, as long as there was still at least one eye on it. +Potatoes sound like they'd go great with squirrel stew. +--- 2567643 +>>2567066 +Cool to see other people interested in growing teaberry too. I would love to have an abundance of it everywhere so I don't only have it when I'm in the woods. I love it. Last year I tried to start it from seed, cold stratified it, had a couple of seedlings come up, but they died. It was in potting soil, so maybe it wasn't acidic enough? This year I just bought starts and they came with leaves looking pretty good. I put them in the wood chips beds under the Rhododendrons. We have a heat wave right now so trying to keep them moist hopefully the heat didn't kill them after transplanting or I didn't under or over water +--- 2567655 +Zone 6b. Last frost is mid May. April is a hard month for me mentally. I want to be in the garden my dudes. I have all my seeds started and I’m doing bed prep and other prep. I can’t wait to put some plants in the ground +--- 2567704 +>>2564606 +That’s pretty autistic. I prefer to call things by their actual name. Although I do call butterflies “flutterbies”. +--- 2567706 +>>2567655 +I'm in the niche between 5b and 6a and have been working my ass off already to get things started and set up. I have a dozen crops already going. The trick is to realize that, even with the danger of frost on the table until May, you have a lot of stuff you could've started back at the tail end of March. Or earlier, given you're lower. +--- 2567714 +>>2567706 +What do you start early and how do you protect from frost +--- 2567720 +>>2567714 +Peas, cabbage, swiss chard, kale, various types of berries, and an assortment of other things. Anything I worry about with regard to frost is in a pot and set up where I can wheel it into cover if need be. +--- 2567775 +>>2567655 +>Zone 6b. Last frost is mid May. +We are literally in the same zone. +>April is a hard month for me mentally. +Why +> I want to be in the garden my dudes. +Then do so, I'm already planting things and taking in the sun while in my underwear, boots and gloves. +>I have all my seeds started and I’m doing bed prep and other prep. I can’t wait to put some plants in the ground +Put some frost tolerant crops then? +--- 2567796 +>>2567775 +Stop being a dick +--- 2567811 +>>2567655 +>6B +My last frost date in 6B is in a week on the 16th through the 20th according to my local ag extension though I probably wont get plants in the ground till the first week of may unless your weather is bad I dont see why you cant put your plants in the ground starting next week. Best of luck to you & your garden anon. +--- 2567822 +Tips on helping germinate older squash seeds? +--- 2567858 +>>2567822 +wet paper towel in a container. If they don't pop they probably aren't viable. Watch closely so they don't try to root in the towel. + +Don't fold them over in the towel. Just put them on top of a moist towel in a closed container (deli cups work) +--- 2567887 +Ended up doing out last plantings in soil blocks. Might as well go back to old reliable. The 72 cell and 6 packs were easy to plant but wasn't getting the same results as the last 8+ years with soil blocks +--- 2567888 +>>2567887 +"doing our" +--- 2567911 +something ate most of my grape hyacinths, and i know i did absolutely nothing to protect them, but i'm still a little irked about it +they were so pretty :'( +--- 2567916 +Easiest vegetables to grow? +--- 2567930 +>>2567911 +Those are one of my favorite flowers, I used to care for a wonderful elderly lady who grew them in huge bunches. She let me take a few bulbs and they even started growing before I moved. Wonder what’s eating them, I’ve never seen anything touch them where I live. I stole a good deal of hydrocodone from her and almost ODed kek. +--- 2567933 +>>2567916 +I’ve always had outrageous success with cucumber, and all I ever did was put seeds in the dirt and water them. Let a few of the bastards grow big enough that I could use them as fleshlights, and of course they double as dildos if you’re into that. Tasty too, I grew a variety that grew quick thick and still tasted good at larger sizes. +--- 2567934 +>>2564606 +Mostly I call things outside my own body niggers or something with nigger attached to it. Other times i call things completely made up nonsense names +--- 2567938 +I have never had so much trouble starting seedlings indoors. I believe I fucked myself the first go this year by starting some sweet potatoes with old potting mix (heard it was bad, but never had a problem before). Harvested like a hundred slips off that tray but fucked the rest of my starts. I started 2x 72-cell trays of tomatoes and 1 of peppers. Wifey and I can for a family of 6 so we grow a lot. Always grew heirlooms, but I'm a really cool guy and tried some of the commercial hybrid varieties of tomatoes (Invincible, Tachi, and another) and peppers this year. They all died and I tried two more sets of 3 trays ($fuckton). The first set got real bad. By the last set, I did everything I could think of. I sterilized everything including the surfaces. Was super precise with bottom watering. Fancy new air-pruned cell inserts. Growing medium was Pro-Mix bx with some pelleted sloow release fertilizer mixed in. Even misted with chamomile tea. Left the heat mats on all the time until seeds sprouted. What more can I do? Is it possible my (half-finished, well-ventilated) basement where I start my seeds is just a cess pool of fungus and I keep infecting my shit? Can I add some sort of amendment to the starting medium to stop the funguses? Help please. Pic attached is last set when I decided to throw in the towel. +--- 2567942 +>>2567933 +Fucks wrong with you +Get help +--- 2567943 +>>2567934 +>kek +I do this too +Maybe my seedlings have an aversion to the n word and that's why they always die short +--- 2567958 +This year I am going to try growing small pumpkins. I have a basic idea of what to do, however, I wanted to ask if any of you have any advice on growing pumpkins. Anything I should do or not do? +Pic related is the seed packet +--- 2567961 +If i punched holes on the side of a regular pot with a soldering iron similar to the holes on this air pruning pot, would it have the same effect? These pots are kind of expensive. +--- 2567962 +>>2567916 +Radishes must be one of the easiest. They don't require much fertilizer and grow relatively quickly. Lettuce and Tomato plants are also pretty easy. +--- 2567974 +>>2567796 +you okay there bud? +--- 2567978 +>>2567475 +The amount they can grow in 24 hours is crazy, I'll have to repot today or tomorrow. +--- 2567987 +>>2567962 +>They don't require much fertilizer +What would /hgm/ recommend for low cost acceptable fertilizer for cucumbers, corn, tomatoes, peppers, watermelon, cantaloupe, etc... +An all around on-in-all fertilizer for the garden? +--- 2567991 +>>2567987 +Aged urine +--- 2567992 +>>2567961 +What’s the point of this? +--- 2567995 +>>2567942 +You ain’t never lived less you cocked a cucumber, lube’s built in and by the time you cum it’s basically destroyed so you just chuck it in the compost pile. +--- 2567998 +>>2567995 +I'm sure your a hole is basically destroyed from all the pp and cucumbers being rammed up there +Please get help +--- 2567999 +>>2567992 +look it up and apparently exposing the roots to air kills them off and forces the plant to continuously grow new roots which for some reason benefits the plant +--- 2568000 +>>2567999 +*looked it up +--- 2568002 +It has begun! +--- 2568011 +>>2567987 +Low cost? Chicken manure or organic granural fertilizer are the cheapest. Not too sure if you need something specific at the later stages when the plant starts fruiting or if it's somewhat negligible. +--- 2568012 +>>2568011 +Granular* these are slow-releasing pallets by the way, but they're easy to store, don't expire fast, and you can turn them into liquid by pouring it with water for 24 hours. +--- 2568017 +>>2567987 +Piss, unironically. Keep it off the leaves and it's perfect for starting plants without burning them and fights off a lot of infections and invasive shit. +--- 2568032 +>>2567998 +I never used one as a dildo, only as a fleshlight pal. Get your facts straight. +--- 2568052 +>>2568011 +>Low cost? Chicken manure +isnt that thing full of chemicals and antibiotics and so on? +--- 2568058 +>>2567987 +If you are in a part of the world where they raise cows/sheep/chickens then ask your local farmer if you can help clean up some of the older manure in his fields/farm to help your garden and most farmers will let you for free or if you give them a portion of your gathered manure they will let you keep the rest. If you are in the US ask that farmer what his favorite beer or whiskey is and buy him a 6 pack or a handle of it and you will have made a friend for life. +--- 2568059 +>>2567887 +>>2567888 +this might be a stupid question anon but I have never used compressed soil blocks for starting plants. What are the advantages and how do they not fall apart once they are watered? +--- 2568063 +Good day on the allotment. The soil from last year in the left and right beds is still looking good and we've planted strawberries in the middle one. Probably going to be growing strawberries, asparagus, artichokes, beans, and rhubarb this year. +--- 2568068 +>>2568059 +The only disadvantage is that you have to be careful when hardening them off. I'm not kidding there is almost not disadvantage to them. Obviously it takes a bit longer to make the mix etc but really not much longer to fill a 72 cell tray properly. They can't get rained on. We don't have any covered area where they can be left outside 24 hours a day. We have them on a kitchen rack and when its going to rain we bring them all in. When watering you don't overhead water. you can use 1020 trays or basic plastic lunch trays and you water the side of the tray until they soak up all the water. +--- 2568069 +>>2568063 +Also, what the fuck is this +--- 2568072 +>>2568069 +It's a wickety grub. +--- 2568073 +>>2568059 +>>2568068 +one more thing as to how they don't fall apart when you water. This is our tomatoes from last year. Once they start to get two sets of true leaves the block is pretty much held together by the roots. When you transplant its pretty much a huge mass of roots and they just explode when they go into the ground/. +--- 2568084 +>>2566177 +I got this packet of soil with strawberry seeds from lowes. "GUARANTEED TO GROW". Bullshit. None of them fucking grew. Waste of five bucks +--- 2568085 +>>2568069 +Protein +--- 2568100 +local garden centre is selling soil improver loose for cheap +can i use it for germinating seeds? +--- 2568109 +>>2568069 +cockchafer larvae +--- 2568138 +>>2568100 +that no-till guy charles dowding does it, so yes? +--- 2568151 +>>2567987 +If you frequently eat eggs then crushed egg shells can be used as a calcium supplement for plants which can help prevent blossom end rot. It also keeps the slugs away +--- 2568154 +>>2568151 +>he doesn't eat his eggshells +--- 2568165 +>>2568154 +Anon, there is so much alchemy you can do with piss and eggshells you could fill a book with it. I quickly realized it was going to be over 1400 pages with half a million citations and quickly stopped in that endeavor. +--- 2568166 +>first it was surprise frost +>now its been raining for 3 days straight +I fucking hate April. Can't plant shit in this weather. +--- 2568167 +>>2568151 +There are studies that say you can make a dilluted tea extract, which actually works for it to be absorbed. Plain crushed eggshells hardly do anything. And even then, chalk which contains calcium and magnesium are cheap as well. Calcium also tends to bind with nitrogen, so never fertilize and add calcium at the same time. +--- 2568168 +120 zinnias planted +--- 2568169 +>>2568168 +but why? +--- 2568184 +>>2568166 +Meanwhile we've been having 90 degree days +--- 2568204 +>>2567643 +Here are some picks of my 1 year old teaberries. They're still red but I've gotten a few 80-90° days and a really good rain a few hours ago so (I think) that's changing. I lost a few in the first year, probably to the heat. +--- 2568206 +>>2567643 +>>2568204 +Here is a pick of my most successful one. I think it is sending up new shoots, but I'll have to watch it develop. It was, not surprisingly, sourced from the wild, while the rest were some cultivar or something. + +I'm also doing beach plum, hopniss, groundcherries, and swamp pink, so if you want any info on those I can post pics and whatnot later on. +--- 2568228 +>>2567643 +>>2568204 +>>2568206 +These are my plants. I planted them about 3 weeks ago. This past week we had hot weather and no rain until today. They definitely don't seem HEALTHY but they're not dead, I don't think, so here's to hoping. +--- 2568230 +>>2568228 +I'll stay hopeful for you also, feelsgood that other people are starting out + +I just started a tray with some winter variety spinach and chocolate scorpion peppers myself, any other east/aus here growing stuff in this indecisive weather? +--- 2568252 +>>2568058 +>ask your local farmer if you can help clean up some of the older manure in his fields/farm + +Yeah right gtfo if here +--- 2568258 +>>2567704 +>flutterbies +Then I guess you have a touch of 'tism too +--- 2568277 +>>2567958 +Pretty you just plant then water, weed, and fertilize. And they'll do the rest. You might have to hand pollenate them if there isn't alot of insects. If you want larger pumpkins you may have to thin them. +--- 2568323 +>>2567999 +>air pruning +you can just do this with a bag, look up grow bags +--- 2568346 +>all of my allotment is under 50cm of water +It's safe to say, its another year without pumpkins. +--- 2568369 +>>2568169 +some people just want to see the world blossom +--- 2568381 +>>2568168 +The forbidden brownies +--- 2568382 +>>2568381 +nobody is going to stop you +--- 2568384 +>>2568381 +I used to top with vermiculite, really looked like brownies topped with crushed nuts +--- 2568393 +Just an update for possible other soil blockers. You can go another few inches tall past this point with a standard 2in block + +The up potted ones in the back weren't going in till early june for my bro so we had to up pot them. Our LFD is May 15th so they pretty much had to go another month. +--- 2568397 +I've planted some spinach seeds outdoors but on the package which I forgot to read it says that it should be planted 1-2cm deep but I planted it maybe 10cm deep. Am I fu ked? +--- 2568399 +>>2568397 +Yeah, probably. Seeds only have so much energy in them. The smaller the seed, the less energy, the less ability to generate green to fight through soil. +--- 2568403 +>>2568399 +Damn. How long should I wait to restart the process? +--- 2568406 +>>2568403 +I'd probably try to stir up the soil to try and reclaim some seeds towards the surface and then just lay down more seeds. If the originals manage to pop up, I'd just shuffle them. Or ignore them and regret it later. +--- 2568414 +>>2568397 +smaller the seed, the closer to surface it has to be. +I plant strawberry seeds right on top of the soil for instance with some kind of cover. While big stuff like potatoes go into the ground bravely. +--- 2568434 +>>2566956 +its nearing 20 degrees now, bit of a heatwave +im in the equivalent of 9a +im seeding them indoors, and transplanting later +I heard they dont do the best in transplants but i figured if I cant grow them outside I should try for inside first +after 8 days, I see three tiny seedlings +I have no idea, it werks, im very happy +--- 2568436 +>airlay some cherry branches for months during autumn/winter +> cut them up and strip the bottle with moits coco coir expecting some healthy root system +nothing + +>stuck the branches in the ground out of pettiness to give up +>when spring comes one sprouts green all over but quickly stops, the other doesnt +>a fucking stake to mark perimeter I had made from an old cherry branch sprouts green and flowers too + +what the fuck +have they rooted? when can one make sticks root and when not? do I have to wait until a different season now? + +I also cut some thin branches from a local mulberry tree because I liked the fruit they did and wanted it for my garden +the twigs I put in water in autumn did some green but never rooted, the ones I cut now in spring i put in soil in a humidity dome all in a bucket with soil +They ARE putting out more leaves than last time but how tf I know if they are rooting? + +I feel like I need some serious help here and like Im bumbling around +--- 2568437 +ha! +--- 2568439 +NEW BREAD + +>>2568301 → +>>2568301 → +--- 2568440 +>>2568436 +It can take months, particularly if the plant in question was dormant when the cuttings were taken. +--- 2568441 +>>2568436 +>>2568440 +Expanding, I'd say let them stay there and get established. Maybe dig around them to give them a good bit of dirt to root into and, if you care to, move the entire blob of earth wherever you want it. But yeah. If it's leafing and flowering, it sounds like it's alive and rooted. +--- 2568471 +>>2568393 +sorry for being a noob. may i ask what are these blocks and how do you make them? +don't they dry out quick? +--- 2568495 +>>2568471 +my blocks are made from 4 parts sifted peat and 1 part sifted composted cow manure. You use something called a soil blocker. Takes a bit to get used to how wet it needs to be. I like them a bit wetter than most of what is on youtube. +The bigger blocks don't dry out any faster than standard 4 o 6 packs. The smaller ones do but like any gardener you just need to keep an eye on them. +--- 2568537 +Cayenne peper and butterhead lettuce + +Added too much perlite in the lettuce's soil i think diff --git a/out/2562341.txt b/out/2562341.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d245de133a62454764eb77aae999c45d3e28eeb9 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2562341.txt @@ -0,0 +1,605 @@ +----- +--- 2562341 +Am trying to choose between a TT pathfinder mk2 or karrimor predator 80-130 as a multipurpose backpack. Will be my multipurpose backpack, but primarily for long hikes. Which is better for someone 6ft5? +--- 2562343 +>>2562341 (OP) +Lol +Lmao +--- 2562353 +>>2562341 (OP) +What do you mean by multipurpose? For a day pack +80L is kind of ridiculously big. 30-35L would be plenty for a day pack. +--- 2562355 +LOL +LMAOOOO +--- 2562359 +>>2562341 (OP) +You mean long camps because you are not going to get far with that thing kek? +--- 2562363 +>>2562353 +>>2562359 +I mean multi-day hikes walking 25+ km each day and sleeping innawoods. Am currently using a large british army bergen for it, but it's not really for tall people, and I want something better ventilated. +--- 2562372 +Go for some ILBE/FILBE rucksack. +I use a milsurp rucksack copycat of the CFP-90 and it is moderate ventilated. +Something from Mistery Ranch or Eberlestock will be comfier, but at higher cost. +--- 2562382 +>>2562363 +I don't think any of these will have better ventilation. Backpacks suck. You have to make your own pack, or have it made for you with a level of customization that fits you close enough. +--- 2562395 +>>2562382 +You don't think they'll have better ventilation than my bergen? They both have a mesh. +--- 2562458 +>>2562341 (OP) +Long hikes my ass with that heavy ass pack and all the larping bullshit you probably take along +--- 2562459 +>>2562458 +He’s Australian, so his definition of a long hike is somewhat different from an Americans definition. +--- 2562470 +>>2562458 +>if they use gear I don't like they're larping +One in every thread +--- 2562510 +>>2562458 +When I was a ZOGbot, we’d clear 25km with a pack similar to these in about 4-5 hours… about 80 lbs. of total gear weight per man, all told. +Especially taking all day to cover that distance instead of having to move with a purpose, it’s eminently doable for a healthy male in his 20s-30s. Not everyone is as weak as you are. +--- 2562625 +>>2562510 +>When i was a zogbot +>When + +So you dont do it anymore? Because even you know the difference between CAN and SHOULD. +--- 2562628 +>>2562510 +>>2562625 +Yeah, these “we did it in the army” posts are retarded. They carried 80lbs once every now and then because they were forced to as part of their job, everyone hated it, and several people eventually became crippled because of it. +--- 2562636 +Karrimor sf because All my packs are karrimor sf +Unless you actually need it to be fucking huge get the sabre with side pouches. It's the most versatile thing in the world especially if you get the harness for the side pouches. It's 4 different size packs in one lmao +--- 2562650 +>>2562341 (OP) +Kifaru is really a no-brainer when you want to go for the military look without feeling fuck up after a long day. +--- 2562690 +>>2562341 (OP) +this is the larpiest of larps +you need to be 18 or older to post here, fatty +--- 2562695 +>>2562690 +>anyone who isn't a scrawny UL twink is a total fatso +--- 2562697 +>>2562695 +fatty spotted +--- 2562704 +>>2562695 +It’s almost the opposite. The guys I see with retard tier 80L larpsacks are often fat, though not always, but most people with UL gear look like athletes (probably because they actually go outside). +--- 2562706 +>>2562704 +I mean, is this real life? Look at those things! +--- 2562712 +im colonizing this thread bc i bought a milsurp pack that came without a hipbelt. saw some guy used a savotta replacement hipbelt but it costs as much as my bag and it would make no sense to spend so much money on what is essentially a cheap bagpack for masochist. would tactical molle belts work? something like the FILBE hipbelt but not as big im not obese. +--- 2562716 +>>2562341 (OP) +I got the blackjack 80 for extended trips, I have been using it alot snowshoeing in Albertastan. They are worth it if they are in sale, usually around 350$ USD, but not worth full price (1K$USD) + +It is big enough so you can overpack if needed, like if you shot an animal or something and we’re packing out meat, but it cinches down very nicely to become more low profile if you don’t have as much shit. It is the most comfortable pack I have ever owned, I have back problems and so far I have had essentially 0 pain using this pack. I usually pack under 30-35 pounds maximum, however I have packed many heavy loads with it and it works great. It’s not a lightweight Appalachian trail type bag, but that’s obviously not what you are looking for out of a mil type pack. + +I left a review on optics planet if you want to read it +--- 2562725 +>>2562716 +https://www.opticsplanet.com/mystery-ranch-blackjack-80-backpack.html +>>2562704 +I agree with this guys statement, I used to be the fat guy with the big big but now I am no longer fat, I use smol bags for most things but big bags for hunting or very long/cold weather trips. 80L is my absolute maxinum +--- 2562728 +>>2562725 +>80L is my absolute maxinum +I think that's most peoples absolute maximum. +Also, for 420, you might as well buy a wisport reindeer. +https://www.ebay.com/itm/204291364694?hash=item2f90b6d756:g:ylkAAOSwVSRkJ4Mp&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4JLGxl2baVBxMIJwY%2Fo9wYgVb1INpSLcaEUYxikKB%2BSC7JWYSeeAyp5naaBT0BBusXU3WX55IRZeP1qgE3ASLhqFqE3N0VZZvooCpLow%2FF67wed2Z7XldoI9QbS4z%2FvfdimOF2JBrWprt8WB6d8Hw66ApYWA8j53wUR%2FmC5IHggM7N7Q4eSB5noia73PawNP1Zno805anwE5L8U5oCEYJtYRCQjypD5eBwCQcOT1WCV3toIfGB97K02qLGtoR8d%2Bp6qcC2ZajOVnxWcki4CNXBI7QUjXYzTFAUZp5RadrpKX%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8SvktXpYQ +--- 2562730 +>>2562728 +Looks like a good pack but I am very content with my mystery ranch and since I have enough bags ranging from day bags, 3 day bags, 45L bags, 60L, and 80L I have no reason to buy another bag unless one is damaged beyond repair +--- 2562732 +>>2562730 +I see. Any recommendations for a bug out bag between 45-60L? 2 weeks innawoods, possible snow/rain storms. I'd like something that will stand the test of time. All around reliability and high quality, over comfort and crazy bells and whistles. Thoughts? +--- 2562760 +>>2562706 +He's like 5'5, very easy to build impressive looking muscles until he stands next to a normal height human being. +--- 2562775 +>>2562712 +>would a belt work as a belt +gee I wonder +--- 2562776 +>>2562732 +plenty, they're all expensive and all twice as heavy as they need to be. Pick whichever one you think looks the coolest and edgiest and pretend to anons online that you bought it by posting a stock photo +--- 2562780 +>>2562341 (OP) +>Mil spec equipment +So anon im gonna let you in on the best kept secret that everyone who has been in the military knows. +Mil spec shit sucks. +Mil spec shit is not designed to be comfortable or top of the line, or even good for that fucking matter, its designed to be 3 things. +1) Durable enough to get the governments monies worth +2) Cheap enough they can buy in bulk +3) Gets exactly the job done it was contracted to be done. +Mil spec shit is not comfortable, its not very versatile in some cases and in many times not even good. +Save for a few outlyers like the military sleeping system is a pretty solid set of gear. + +You will be better off looking at civi products, which 9/10 times are way more comfortable, made using the same tech/designs as military shit, but with more features/comfort in mind. +--- 2562781 +>>2562776 +>Pick whichever one you think looks the coolest and edgiest and pretend to anons online that you bought it by posting a stock photo +fucking kek. Alright, wisport Raccoon Large it is. +--- 2562789 +>>2562636 +Can you recommend the 60-100 sf for mountaneering purposes? +--- 2562833 +>>2562636 +I want to get the 60-100l version of this, but am hesitating because of the DWR. What do? +--- 2562835 +>>2562789 +>for mountaneering purposes +definitely not. +safe for a old arcteryx bag or a stone glacier if you need to carry that much up on a peak. +--- 2562962 +>>2562732 +There is not a single modern backpack that will stand the test of time as long as they keep using PU coated fabrics. People think that their packs last a life time because "bro its 1000 denier" when the sad reality is that the hydrolysis will break down the polyurethane way before the wear and tear eat through the actual nylon. There is nothing you can do about it. The pu coating will turn into sticky goo sooner or later and then your gear will stick to it and get all dirty. + +It is a scam when you think about it. The pu coating does not even keep your gear dry because they do not seam seal all the stiching. Its just planned obsolescence. +--- 2562968 +>>2562962 +That's why i got one of these babys +--- 2562973 +>>2562968 +If I show you mine will you show me yours? +--- 2563017 +>>2562780 +Retarded generalization and doesn't really apply on products that are not issued or bought in bulk by military. +--- 2563092 +>>2563017 +he's right for usa milsurp, there's some real gems but a lot of it's shit and a lot of the old gem items everyone knows about like woobie blankets became collector items and aren't worth the cost to actually use as gear anymore. +europe milsurp's better. but its not a generalization to say milsurp gear will be below par and below the curve of what you can buy on the civvie market especially on the high end. +--- 2563093 +>>2562704 +imagine believing that people who actually go outside & aren't poor wouldn't want to have the best gear. +that's where their fantasy falls apart for me. everyone with hard proven miles either follows the ultralight philosophy, at most the boomers with their old rec gear will tell you "its not for me but its a really good idea" +that being said, ultralight is not for all outdoor activities and /out/ is a general outdoor board not just a hiking board. as superior as we are. +--- 2563118 +>>2563092 +>woobies +>collector's item +a milsurp woobie in good condition costs about twice as much as a thin wool blanket of the same size, i.e., still less than $25. You just have to watch for the sales. +--- 2563120 +>>2563118 +where do they go on sale? i want one to fuck around with in the summer. +--- 2563121 +>>2563120 +I got a few for my kids from Sportsman's Guide back in December or January for $22 each. I do have a membership with them but the trial membership pays for itself on your first purchase. + +Never buy milsurp on eBay because there you do pay collector prices. Go straight to the surplus merchant, brick and mortar of possible. +--- 2563124 +>>2563120 +https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/us-military-surplus-digital-camo-poncho-liner-used?a=2215004 + +Not the woodland camo ones I got but they should work for you. +--- 2563140 +>>2563124 +>acupat +It may be affordable, but at what terrible cost? +--- 2563147 +>>2563140 +A $4 bottle of Rit DyeMore? +--- 2563162 +>>2563121 +>>2563124 +I personally don't trust sportsman's guide, most of the shit I've ordered from them comes in shit condition, or was backordered and I couldn't wit on it any longer. +--- 2563165 +>>2562341 (OP) +I can't believe how expensive backpack cough cough tactical modular rucksack systems cough cough cost so much. +--- 2563168 +>>2563140 +>tfw all surplus going forward is going to be acu +--- 2563173 +>>2563168 +Anon, you do know that acupat got retired, right? +--- 2563177 +>>2563173 +Yes, which is why it's currently flooding the market. It was in use for 14 years. Also it's technically UCP, need to stop calling it ACU now. +--- 2563179 +>>2563093 +Believe it or not there is more to "going outside" than "thru-hiking" mediterranean temperate well-maintained trails in summer. + +Also if you were fit and accomplished you're not going to sacrifice comfort for a few pounds in summer when you are already used to hauling 50lbs cross country in autumn. + +In fact the only reason I can think of is if the trails are so crowded and boring that you just want to blaze through them and necessarily approach hiking with a competitive sportive mindset. +--- 2563187 +>>2563177 +UCP may be flooding the market, but it has to compete with OCP/Scorpion, which people will want more because it's current issue. The UCP gear will get bought up by nostalgic OIF masochists and landscapers, then probably shuffled into some warehouse to be forgotten. +--- 2563191 +>>2563187 +multicam is cringe tho +--- 2563192 +>>2563191 +Compared to UCP it was a godsend and don't you try denying it +--- 2563194 +>>2563192 +I'm not denying it's better, but everyone who wears it looks like a fed. Give me flecktarn or M81 any day. +--- 2563230 +>>2562973 +lmao do u have pics of you wearing it ? And how much does it weight ? +--- 2563234 +>>2563179 +>Believe it or not there is more to "going outside" than "thru-hiking" mediterranean temperate well-maintained trails in summer. +>Also if you were fit and accomplished you're not going to sacrifice comfort for a few pounds in summer when you are already used to hauling 50lbs cross country in autumn. +yeah weird though that's not actually reflected by reality. everyone who actually spends any amount of time in the backcountry takes their gear and weight seriously. i doubt most of the clowns itt even do any math on the food they bring or read the labels. +--- 2563235 +>Also if you were fit and accomplished you're not going to sacrifice comfort for a few pounds in summer when you are already used to hauling 50lbs cross country in autumn. +let's put that to the test, see if anon knows what he's talking about, or if he's just another victim of thinking the "survivalists" on youtube are surviving in more than their back yard... +here what'd andrew skurka take on his alaska yukon expedition? +https://andrewskurka.com/adventures/alaska-yukon-expedition/ +https://andrewskurka.com/wp-content/uploads/gearlists_alaska-yukon.pdf +dang... looks like it doesn't check out. +sorry anon. +--- 2563237 +>>2563179 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr2wJTcbJMQ [Embed] +--- 2563242 +>>2563093 +OP said he’s going to use his 80L larpsack “primarily for long hikes.” So while out is a general purpose board, this is a backpacking thread. +--- 2563244 +https://andrewskurka.com/gear-lists-past-trips/ +this is all before ultralight gear existed too. its almost as if caring about weight is a natural logical conclusion anyone who spends notable amount of time traveling would come to. you would think its pretty common sense the first time you walk up a mountain and realize how much each pound adds up. +do you think marketing tropes and memes are why? those gear lists pre-date ultralight gear existing as more than someone's home brew creations from a forum. ultralight didn't exist. i know because i'm not a zoomer. +i get the urge to resist whatever is popular, and you see shambling freaks with torn backpacks sleeping on thinlight foam and rubbing a shaved down toothbrush for warmth. you can care about weight without being that guy. its possible. +>b--but you're not strong enough +well actually i'm probably hiking like 3x what you do in a day, i used to do it before all the fancy new gear existed, and your joints and spinal compression has nothing to do with how strong you are. if you actually hike a lot and aren't a larper you'll probably start to understand ultralight by the time you're 30 why pretty much everyone around you who spends a lot of time hiking seems to care so much about weight. +--- 2563245 +>>2563179 +>doesn’t know the difference between comfort at camp and comfort while hiking +Please go back to /k/ +--- 2563246 +imagine having to have a knee meniscus surgery or having to get vertebrae fused because you wanted to larp as armyman and got gatekept by getting a job and saving up for a summer for real gear lmbo just imagine it +should have lifted more!!! +--- 2563254 +Unlike you I spend months every year at the arctic circle, and I've never heard of Sturka, not do I care about youtube, reddit, surplus, tactical or bushcraft, and I've also never been to an REI or similar. +You are worrying about the wrong things, bro. + +>>2563234 +>spends any amount of time in the backcountry +I doubt you ever spend a week off the trail when you look like darwin on the trail. + +> takes their gear and weight seriously +You should take your bodyweight and gear very seriously indeed. In my out philosophy gear weight, as long as it is within your fitness levels to carry it for 20 miles a day is secondary to its function to enable you to enjoy going whereever you want to go in all weather conditions, and not being dependant on trails or huts and other tourist stuff. +--- 2563261 +>>2563234 +90% of people are weekend warriors that do maybe one longer trip every year. It does not take that much planning and dialing in your gear to do that. Not saying that quality gear does not make your life easier but as long as your enjoy your time you are doing it right. Lightweight gear allows you to bring more non essentials with you. Thats is the most beneficial thing that that normies get out of ultralight gear. +--- 2563275 +>>2563254 +Who knew? There's actually a based poster on /out/ in the post-covid era +--- 2563284 +>>2563230 +>pics +Not yet, I only rigged it a few nights ago when I needed a break from the computer. Doubt I'll get /out/ this weekend due to the holiday but I want to try it out ASAP. Will try to get pics for (You) but if I have one or more of my kids with me then I probably won't. +>weight +I didn't weigh it, but for a test load I put in my sleeping bag, bivvy, mess kit, stove, a 1lb bottle of propane, and 5 days worth of Humanitarian Daily Rations. Plus the shit I keep in the vest's mag pouches and on the belt, like bug spray / canteen / poncho / first aid / snacks for the kids. Up and down my basement steps ten times while bearing that test load was no problem, but it's obviously not lightweight. For the intended purpose, a summer 2-nighter with my son, who might cover 6 miles all day and whose favorite TV show is MASH, it's perfect. +--- 2563286 +>>2562760 +Are you saying he isn’t strong? Post physique, lol. + +The dude cycled the CDT and has done two (2) R2R2R runs. His legs aren’t big just because he’s short, they’re big because he uses them. +--- 2563326 +>>2563246 +If you can not carry 40-50 lbs for 20 miles a week with ease and without permanent damage you should invest in some trail runners and a gym membership instead of in the lastest gear. You're not there yet. You will with training, even if you are 5'5. Its not an olympic achievement. +--- 2563341 +>>2563286 +Wait, he BIKED the entire CDT? What's this guy's name? I've seen his photos posted here but never got his name. +--- 2563349 +>>2563341 +Jack Jones, aka Quadzilla. Biking the CDT is acktchually pretty common. +--- 2563350 +>>2563326 +Post physique +--- 2563352 +50% of this board is manchildren fighting about who is a "real hiker" and who is not. Even Reddit is better at this point +--- 2563358 +>>2563352 +The problem is that people do widely different activities, and generalize their experience, and basement larpers collecting shit while actually never going out. +--- 2563363 +>>2563349 +Doesn't the CDT go up steep mountains (1k vert per mile or higher)? Do people just carry their bikes up those sections and ride them down? +--- 2563366 +>>2563352 +>at this point +When was Reddit not better than /out/? +--- 2563378 +>>2563284 +fr nobody needs top tier gear when were talking abt overnighters and day hikes. And gear like that is cool, the gear itself is part of the fun +I like the vest thing too, if u put the denser stuff in it itll probably help balance the entire pack and in my experience, the center of gravity of the pack def matters when talking abt heavier loads +nobody wanna be bent over under the pack nor have to constantly fight against a backwards pull lol +--- 2563382 +>>2562716 + +As larp as it would be, I'd like the mystery ranch mountain ruck. +--- 2563417 +>>2563363 +He may have meant the Great Divide Mountain Biking Route, which is totally doable and 100% cycleable. +--- 2563420 +>>2563378 +>the gear itself is part of the fun +yes.jpeg +The vest is an LBV-88, pic related. The pouches are nice, but those panels also trap heat. I may swap them for suspender straps. But the shoulder harness holds those sand-colored cargo straps in place (and also pads them), and they're what makes what makes the pack in >>2562968 comfortable. They go through the loops on the top and all the way around the back of the bag, underneath it and through the loops on its bottom, around the sides, through loops on the belt, and then buckle in up front. Makes for an easily adjustable suspension that carries the load comfortably. Otherwise it's one of the worst backpacks ever made. +--- 2563454 +>>2563326 +>for 20 miles a week +16 miles a day is the average pace for thru hikers, that's an average including geriatrics who had hip replacements. +and then also add in you probably live somewhere flat while i live in a mountain range. as is evident by "miles" being your metric. +--- 2563457 +i don't think you realize every ounce off my back is translated to a faster pace and more hours on trail. its zero sum. my hikes aren't easier than yours, they're probably a lot harder. people who carry less than you aren't weaker than you. they're probably doing more hardcore stuff than you were it starts to matter to think about those things. +--- 2563461 +>>2563454 +16 miles a day is average after they’ve been hiking for a few weeks straight. People who do t hike regularly (most of /out/ lol) are averaging 10, 12 if they really push it. That’s what I saw from the MeetUp group I ran. +>I work out so I can go further +What have you done to toughen the bottoms of your feet? Is there a machine for that or is it free weights? +--- 2563469 +>>2563461 +This. I walk barefoot on gravel, sandpaper and loose 1/4-20 bolts for at least three miles a day to toughen my feet. That way, when I put on my hiking shoes I don't get hurt by the memory foam insoles. I can go almost ten miles before I have to ask my wife to carry my gear now. +--- 2563472 +>>2563461 +>>2563469 +i pour the legos all over my carpet, i'm a big strong boy!! +--- 2563476 +>>2563469 +Maybe I made that one too subtle +--- 2563956 +>>2563420 +consider using rigid stays to keep the pouches from being in direct contact with ur torso. I can't remember the name but there's a brand that's specialized in backpacks with front pouches, they use one stay that flexes in an arc from the shoulder strap to the hipbelt. Allows a few cm for air to pass through +--- 2564016 +>>2563194 +>flecktarn +Das rite +>he doesn't larp as The End or a German conscript behind enemy lines while /out/ +Why even go? +--- 2564056 +>>2564016 +That's not even surplus flecktarn though. +--- 2564062 +>>2563469 +Not sure if you’re just being silly or being an asshole, but if you’re not actively using your feet via long hours spent on them, you’re going to end up with blisters on a long hike. The softness of your boots don’t really matter. +--- 2564068 +>>2564056 +>REEEE no not that flecktarn you need flecktarn for zogbots +No need to be upset +--- 2564074 +>>2564062 +And nobody ever spent time on their feet at a gym +--- 2564078 +>>2564074 +No one is building callouses from a gym routine. What even is this argument? Are you retarded? This is basic bitch hiking 101. You can have great fitness but baby feet. Seriously Anon, you should know this. +--- 2564086 +I just use a basic bitch condor backpack +--- 2564845 +>>2564016 +Who is this vtuber and why is he all over this board? +--- 2564924 +>>2564845 +I'll be gone soon. I'm just here to laugh at urbanites blog about outdoors gear until my /biz/ ban is gone +--- 2564935 +Any strong opinions on the Platatac SPUR about to pick one up in M81 +--- 2565091 +The karrimor has better build quality and materials and also has a better carry system for load distribution. +Both can be adjusted for your size since you're withhin adjustment range. + +I have a karrimor predator 80-130, I did a lot of research, it was the best fit for my requirements. I have some gripes: +- The lack of strap keepers, lots of excessive strap length flapping around all the time +- The lid being sewn to the pack instead of having straps on both sides for overloading the pack above nominal capacity while maintaining some sort of rain protection +- The hip belt isn't re-routed to be pulled from the sides, but centrally at the buckle. Hard to fix. +- Hip belt has central 2" plastic buckle failure point, i had one fail on a previous pack since them i'm weary of the issue (easy to replace tho) + +It's still a really good pack I would recommend, especially the value for money is outstanding. It's a gigantic pack, it's quite cheap compared to the competition, yet the build quality and materials are excellent. + +What you need to understand about this board is american backpack culture. American packs top out around 90-100L tops, Mystery Ranch, Eberlestock, Kifari ... none offer above 100L. +European packs, you can get 130L from TT, Karrimor, Berghaus, .... and Berggans or Norrøna will even sell you 160L. +The conclusion is obvious: Americans are weak sissies, they obviously can't carry big backpacks, and there is no market for them in the US. +That's why americans immediately get butthurt and question the need for such packs when they're even mentioned. +It's a coping mechanism to gloss over their inferiority. +--- 2565092 +>>2564068 +It looks quite bad, obvious fake. +It's also silly since you can buy high quality Leo Köhler german made weather jackets with gore-tex membrane on the surplus market for about the same as that bad looking chink copy with obvious off-colors. +That's why people used to buy flecktarn in the first place, you could get a tough pair of pants for 5 bucks from the surplus store. +For a long time during the 70's, 80's and 90's every construction site in germany had some workers wearing flecktarn pants. + +Now that's considered weird and instead people wear 50 bucks dark grey shitty polyester fabric "work wear" made in china where the seams come loose after 2-3 years, but it has a fancy logo and people consider it a fashion brand so popular they wear it as casual clothes too. + +pig disgust. +--- 2565257 +>>2562760 +Post body (you won't) +--- 2565261 +>>2564078 +>no one builds callouses at the gym +You can just say you've never exercised a day in your life +--- 2565263 +>>2565092 +>its fake! Off color! Chink made! You can buy cheaper +Keep coping +--- 2565361 +>>2565263 +What is there to cope? You're the one who is gassing himself with copium over your garbage overpriced chink gear. + +Running around the woods with cheap Bluetooth headphones and knock off flecktarn makes you a joke. +--- 2565373 +>>2565263 +>not just going to a fucking surplus store and getting real Flecktarn +bruh +--- 2565407 +>>2563234 +lol lmao +--- 2565430 +>>2563254 +>and I've never heard of Sturka, not do I care about youtube, reddit, surplus, tactical or bushcraft, and I've also never been to an REI or similar +>immediately namedrops youtuber eceleb faggot +LOL +yeah i'm sure you "spend months at the arctic circle" or whatever, just like you don't know who all these youtubers and ecelebs are by name, faggot. +face it your whole life is watching youtubers using them as dad substitutes because you wish you had my life (born & raised in the yukon + have a dad) +--- 2565431 +>>2563275 +this is why these clueless board infesting zoomer roaches need to be stomped out. +tricks clueless anons like this one who are impressed by a single photo of the one time anon's been outside into thinking they know what they're talking about. +--- 2565480 +>>2565431 +>experience is measured by how many pictures you post +Can we stomp you out, too? +--- 2565490 +>>2565430 +>projection: the post +--- 2565613 +>>2565430 +>skurta skurta skurta +No, too busy to consume your culture products. +Not wasting my vacation with ultralight endurance wilderness adventure expedition athlet larping, suffering in a plastic bag and a quilt that's way too thin being dependent on resupply crates and hotel rooms. +--- 2565642 +>>2565431 +Post proof that you actually go outdoors +--- 2566187 +>>2565361 +>>2565373 +nta, post screenshot of """authentic""" flecktarn retards +--- 2566299 +>>2566187 +>Chink made Mil tec garbage +>Actual surplus + +You need an image to understand the difference? +--- 2566373 +>>2566299 +Yes? Should be no problem to come up with one example +--- 2566441 +>>2566373 +>he never replied +Pathetic +--- 2566611 +>>2566441 +>sitting on a board all day when I could be /out/ +Your loss. Anyway, MilTec pieces have a mil-tec tag. I don't own any crap made by them. Surplus has a tag akin to this. + +Simple as. +--- 2566616 +>>2566611 +>simple as +I cannot wait for this faggy pretentious statement to die +--- 2566666 +>>2566616 +it's just norf working class slang. how stupid are you to think this is some grand, pretentious statement? + +just close your eyes if you are that triggered +--- 2566704 +>>2566666 +>slang definitely doesn't change over time +>people definitely don't say things pretentiously +--- 2566706 +>>2566704 +okay. well, whatever you want to think there's your reply with actual German surplus tags. The guy wearing bluetooth headphones outside is running around in chinese made knock off stuff from miltec or some other garbage company...simple as +--- 2566719 +i bought mine because it had everything i ever wanted from a backpack like frontloader, roomy sidepockets, mesh pockets, roomy flap pocket and straps galore +ordered it from america and liked it so much i even got a 30 liter dayback from them as well +i could not be happier +pic related is me starting my 8 day hike charting my way around old forgotten hiking routes by map +--- 2566783 +>>2566611 +How come you didn't post the pattern? Is it because IT LOOKS THE FUCKING SAME? +--- 2566786 +Also jbl isn't cheap chink shit you skullcandy fag +--- 2566827 +>>2562341 (OP) +I thought the only choice for Euros was Jack Wolfskin? +--- 2566830 +>>2562706 +Unless he's trying to hold in a massive shit, that is a posed picture, no one stands like that. +--- 2566853 +>>2566719 +Which bag is this? I like +--- 2567094 +>>2566783 +>How come you didn't post the pattern? +I mean you can see the pattern, but you wanted the tag. +>Is it because IT LOOKS THE FUCKING SAME? +Not really. But like I said, I don't buy miltec and chinese knockoffs of things I could buy surplus, European made, so I can't say for sure as I don't have the patterns to compare. Regardless, older flecktarn looks different from modern felcktarn. I prefer the older versions. +>>2566786 +>jbl +>skullcandy +Why would I wear either of these? And especially why the fuck would I wear headphones while out? That's just embarrassing. +--- 2567108 +Kek. Stay mad, chinktarn poser. +--- 2567164 +>>2567108 +>>2567094 +It's miltec from Deutschland, didn't order it from Amazon which is where the chink knock offs come from. It has a wool intererior that zips into the water/windproof shell. Fuck off now I don't care if the pattern isn't from nazi era +--- 2567617 +>>2567164 +>It's miltec from Deutschland, +How stupid are you? It's not made in Germany. MilTec is infamous for churning out knock off garbage. They have for years. +--- 2567667 +Are Hill People Gear packs actually worth it? They're all pretty expensive and require an additional hundred dollar belt to boot, is there that much of an advantage over other options? +--- 2567672 +>>2567667 +There are better packs for the money. Framed backpacks are easier on your back. The commericial stuff from REI is for UL fags or people who want to ruin their backs. +--- 2567805 +>>2566853 +eberlestock destroyer69 i also have the frontloading 30 liter model called the little brother that i cannot recommend enough +--- 2567856 +>>2565091 +>What you need to understand about this board is american backpack culture. American packs top out around 90-100L tops, Mystery Ranch, Eberlestock, Kifari ... none offer above 100L. +>European packs, you can get 130L from TT, Karrimor, Berghaus, .... and Berggans or Norrøna will even sell you 160L. + +Why is this? "Americans are sissies" is not a real answer, not that it's not true but no one on any continent carries more shit than they have to. What are Europeans doing with those dozens of extra liters? +--- 2567860 +>>2567856 +>What are Europeans doing with those dozens of extra liters? +Portaging? Portage packs come in those sizes (even in America) because you want to move all your shit in one shot rather than making multiple trips back and forth, and because the pack spends most of its time in the bottom of your canoe and only a little time on your back. +--- 2567865 +>>2567860 +>Portaging +Usually heard of this as being more of an American thing desu +--- 2567918 +>>2567865 +Makes sense, canoes are from here after all. But they're probably doing something similar with those huge packs in Europe - not portaging necessarily, but using them as luggage that they carry on their backs for short journeys between transit nodes. +--- 2568108 +>>2567617 +Fine whatever I'll take your word for it. Name a brand (outside of milsurp gear) that isn't mass produced in China then +In any case I've had the jacket for 3 years and had zero issues with it +--- 2568113 +>>2567805 +>/out/ patches +now I know how to spot a nazi in the woods +--- 2568118 +>>2568113 +You gonna buy a telescope and look at them from your concrete shithole? +--- 2568410 +>>2568108 +>Name a brand (outside of milsurp gear) that isn't mass produced in China then +I have no idea what your budget is or even what gear or conditions you're talking about. Given your cheap headphones I'd say you probably wouldn't like the price of cottage manufacturers so it's not worth doing research for you. Use whatever you want, but I'll never be caught in chink made knock offs of German made gear. +--- 2568411 +>>2568410 +>name a brand +>"uhhh it isn't worth it, ur headphones suck" +Every time +--- 2568416 +>>2568411 +NTA but Tough Traveler packs are made in upstate New York and they'll make whatever custom design you give them. They also get over $400 for their basic off-the-rack packs (which don't come in any kind of camo). That's probably why the other Anon mentioned your cheap headphones. +--- 2568419 +>>2568411 +I'm just saying, based on your current purchases I don't get the sense that you could or would pay for something quality. + +I have no idea what items you are even looking for or what conditions you're expecting. Anything from Forloh to Enlightened Equipment to Appalachian Gear Co. might work but you're such a fucking mentally ill moron that you'll move the goalposts anyway. +--- 2568421 +>>2568416 +NTA but I have a 400-dollar bag and 10-dollar earbuds. It's all about priorities. +--- 2568422 +>>2568411 +but your headphones do suck... and you're also wearing them while being out. lmao +--- 2568424 +>>2568419 +>calls others mentally ill +>thinks everyone he responds to is the same person +Are the "goalposts" in the room with us now, anon? +--- 2568426 +>>2568424 +If two people have that same jacket I'll be impressed. Regardless of who I'm responding to the response is the same. diff --git a/out/2562567.txt b/out/2562567.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6e93b9cac5af7401f0555f1f4bb92788ee4d8f24 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2562567.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1108 @@ +----- +--- 2562567 +#471- “Passover” Edition + +Previous Thread: +>>2555619 → + +janny pls… + +Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here! +http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle +https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N + +New Bong Fishin Guide +https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq + +First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc. + +Talk about fishin +--- 2562575 +Water needs to warm up already +--- 2562582 +>>2562575 +it's already warm enough. fish are in the shallows now here, finally. snything above 55 +--- 2562602 +>>2562567 (OP) +Fly fishing is best fishing +--- 2562609 +>>2562582 +I wonder if it's worth kayaking out for calico around next week. +I tried last week in the harbor and didn't catch anything at all +--- 2562610 +>>2562602 +>not even dubs +--- 2562619 +what are some obscure baits you guys like +--- 2562621 +>>2562619 +bluegill go buckwild for my congealed smegma +--- 2562626 +Take the pole fishing pill. +--- 2562627 +>>2562626 +I'm not a kid +--- 2562629 +>>2562627 +neither is he +--- 2562631 +>>2562609 +Water is still pretty cold for calico, you still have a shot at them, but it'sgonna be slow. You could still get spottys and sand bass in the bays until the water outside is closer to 60-62. If you want to paddle/pedal out though rockfish just opened back up. I just did a half day on Sunday and I guess the 9 mile opened up to bottom fishing for the first time in like 20 something years and there are a lot of really big reds out there if you don't mind fishing 500'+ of water. +--- 2562632 +is lure type or color more important based on water conditions? +--- 2562633 +>>2562631 +Hmm, I'll just chill in the bay and shallow water until next month then. Good chance to build up my stamina again. +--- 2562635 +>>2562632 +Lure type always matter more. +--- 2562638 +>>2562610 +Go fishing +--- 2562661 +>>2562631 +I'm trying to decide whether I should try to paddle to 60-80 feet to fish or mess around in the shallow <30 of eel grass and sand flat +--- 2562679 +>>2562638 +He's too busy buying tools +--- 2562752 +>>2562602 +i hoping to see one of yall here + +>>2562567 (OP) +Here is a pinfry pattern I tied recently. +--- 2562756 +does line visibility matter for bass +--- 2562759 +>>2562661 +In the bay or outside? In the bay you'll get spottys about year round in the grass flats and sandies mixed with them in the deeper spots in the big bay. Outside you're looking at really slow calico, some sheephead and halibut this time of year. Rockfish and whitefish would start in more like 150'+. +--- 2562764 +>>2562756 +I would say in pressured waters where finesse presentations are most successful probably. Otherwise no, because if a bass is committed to chasing your lure or a reaction strike it likely isn’t looking at the line anyway +--- 2562766 +>>2562764 +i've never really understood the argument considering there's hooks dangling off shit +--- 2562773 +>>2562766 +I think would notice real thick line if the water is clear. Also rigid line can affect the lure's action and make it look less natural. Probably not an issue for bass since they have downs syndrome, but it definitely makes a difference for highly pressured trout in my experience. +--- 2562782 +>>2562766 +If I’m fishing a heavily pressured city pond I’m downsizing considerably, relative to lmb fishing. 6-8lb line small plastics on dropshot, ned or compact jigs. The fish need more time to inspect the lure and say this is actually food i want to eat. If I’m going to a less trafficked area or bigger body of water I don’t worry so much. I can throw the big swim baits, Chatterbaits and tandem bladed spinners on 30lb braid with 12-20lb leader going after that reaction bite. Downsized presentations work everywhere but they’re better suited for targeting a specific area opposed to searching for your bite +--- 2562790 +>>2562773 +its rare i ever go above 8lb line, most generally 6# +mostly stained water as well, we don't have anything super clear like i've seen out west +--- 2562801 +bass hit stuff depending on a very specific set of often random variables. casting and running a lure by them one way might work one day and not the next, even if the retrieve angle is barely any different. dinks hit anything, but the big ones are very very hesitant unless you roll the slots right. I always have much better luck trying to trigger a reaction strike with a fast moving bait than trying to "entice them" to try something. if they don't get a good look at it they will often commit. it's pretty odd considering they will look at a basic bitch plastic worm and hit it. +--- 2562802 +I had to go swimming today for my snagged $8 Yo-Zuri. Anything over $3 and I'm swimming to get it. +--- 2562805 +>>2562802 +yozuri makes great lures +--- 2562807 +>>2562805 +They are good but I'm too spoiled by lucky craft +--- 2562808 +>>2562790 +I run 6lb copoly for 90% of my freshwater fishing with fly and lures. There's a c&r fly river I fish where the water is gin clear and most of the fish have been caught at least a dozen times. That's when I'll pull out the 2lb fluoro and it makes a difference. +--- 2562810 +>>2562801 +It ain't radom, kid. Check the barometer an consult the astrological charts. If the bullfrogs are croaking in D minor it's gonna be a shit day. +--- 2562819 +>>2562782 +I hear the terms "searching" and "this bait works for searching" often and I wonder "Gee, if I'm catching fish on a particular bait, why would I suddenly change?" If I'm catching dinks I'll for sure change SOMETHING but I don't spazz out and start drop shotting if I just boated a 6 pound bass on a cb. Am I doing it wrong? +--- 2562823 +>>2562819 +It's a bass thing, you wouldn't understand +--- 2562847 +I am not catching anything, and others are catching a ton. (Was just talking with some guy who uses the exact same setup as me, bottom weight and floating powerbait dough) I don't know what I am doing wrong. I feel very dumb. +--- 2562849 +>>2562819 +for me, search baits are spinnerbaits and lipless cranks, if they catch a few, i'll stick with them +--- 2562912 +This 4 weight is gonna be so sick +>Pic related +>>2562752 +Welcome fellow fly fag +Nice little streamer, looks like it could be used as a stone fly in a pinch too +>>2562756 +Not even a little +--- 2562913 +>>2562912 +Fuck forgot pic +--- 2562916 +>>2562913 +I have an old school Redington fiberglass 3wt rod that's about 7.5 feet long and man it's so fun to fish with. The loading and casting is a hoot, and fishing for fat blue gill in ponds and streams never gets old. +--- 2562919 +>>2562916 +Yeah no gills and dink bass on light fiberglass is great, and I can only imagine how much fun two-hand casting for them will be. +--- 2562920 +>>2562849 +I get the difference between a bait you can cover a lot of water with one you can't; I usually start with a spinnerbait or a crank as well and move to slower/smaller baits if I need to. I don't get the idea that a bait be used to "search" for bass, as if a particular bait gets a lot of follows or short strikes. If I'm getting follows chances are I already know where a fish is (muskie is a different story, I've been surprised) and I'll alter the retrieve or use a jerk bait before I soak a senko or switch to drop shot. My bait getting bumped and short strikes aren't such a big deal that I'd label it "searching"; of course I'd switch to a smaller or slower bait. If I'm fishing specifically for pelagic bass of course I'm searching and will cover as much water as I can, but I still don't call a spinnerbait or crankbait a "search bait". + +>>>2562823 +Suck a dick, tough guy. +--- 2562938 +>>2562913 +This is gonna be super cool too +--- 2562958 +Anybody ever eat trout eggs ? I was thinking about frying some up. But see mixed reviews. I was going to try and cure some for bait if the eating route isn't worth it. +--- 2562977 +>>2562958 +I've heard of some old timers eating em but I don't know of any recipes. I'd say go ahead and just cure them. +--- 2562994 +I'm having a real hard time getting over a girl like I haven't in a really longtime. I wish I hadn't taken her to all my favorite fishing spots. They're all tainted now. She was a rockhound and would look for rocks while I fished and there's this huge crystal rock near one of my best spots and I can't look at it without wanting to tear up like a big blubbering faggot. +--- 2563021 +>>2562994 +Did you even get laid bro? +--- 2563026 +>>2563021 +yeah, part of what has me so fucked up about it is the last time I ever saw her was a night fishing and It was all lovey dovey kisses under the stars, going back to my place to watch movies andt fucking like animals for the next 7 or 8 hours. Everything seemed right in the world that night. A few days later she goes cold out of nowhere. tells me to leave her alone and blocks me on everything when I ask her what was wrong. +--- 2563027 +>>2563026 +Sounds like she just has an episode. The relationship might rebound back if it's something sudden like that. It's the slow and gradual break down that is more difficult to fix. +--- 2563046 +>>2563027 +I would think that but it's been 6 months without a hint of anything.. Pretty sure it's done. even if right now she showed up here and begged me to forgive her, I would but I would never trust her ever again +--- 2563095 +can i get a quick tip on lures or fishing methods for lakes in central sweden? will be hiking there around may/june with pic related, looking to catch something nice to eat (pike ir bass maybe?) +also going to try fly fishing, wish me luck +--- 2563102 +>>2563095 +If you’re not used to fishing with lures, I gotta shill inline spinners. Should be good for pike and bass that time of year. Not sure what brands you get, but Mepps is my favorite in the US and Rooster Tails are cheaper alternatives. + +Any jerkbait or floating bait like Rapala Husky Jerks or Original are real easy to fish too, the jerkbaits take a little technique. +--- 2563105 +>>2562626 +i always carry one with me during summer +most fun way to fish with 100% results +--- 2563107 +>>2562626 +Never seen a pole fisherman that isn't a fat old bastard. +--- 2563114 +>>2563102 +I use spinners all the time for trout in smallish mountain streams, best lure next to worms. + +Aren't they too small for pike tho? Or are there giant ones that don't get used where i live (Austria)? +Bought a big ass redhead Rapala Husky, good to know they work! +--- 2563130 +>>2563026 +Was the the thick bitch anon took out on a canoe? You didn't mutilate any fish in front of her did you? Only mat can do that because he's such a player. +--- 2563145 +any techniques you guys absolutely refuse to use +i won't drop shot +--- 2563241 +>>2563145 +Use lures. I did that for years before i realized that i like more of the drink beer and wait style of boomer bait fishing. +--- 2563248 +>>2563145 +refuse to use mop flies and certain fly patterns. Even though I don't tournament fish it's just unfair to the fish and I feel like a cheater. MNR should ban some patterns and mop flies altogether. Hefty 5000 fine. +--- 2563251 +>>2563145 +Fuck strike indicators, contact nymphing all the way +--- 2563262 +>>2563114 +>Aren't they too small for pike tho? Or are there giant ones that don't get used where i live (Austria)? +Big pike will eat small lures if you put them in the right place, but also they do make giant spinner baits. I think the biggest inline spinner that Mepps sells is over 2 oz (56 grams). +--- 2563263 +>>2563262 +yeah I caught most pike and even my largest on the smallest size spinner I have +--- 2563278 +>>2563145 +I will never use tip-ups while ice fishing +--- 2563288 +>>2562916 +it never gets old. + +https://youtu.be/0hUFxSEN9E4 [Embed] +--- 2563293 +>>2562912 +Thanks, it been killer this season. +--- 2563317 +Is alibaba good for gear? + +https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2023-Fishing-Waders-Hunting-Suit-3_1600230894002.html?spm=a2700.7724857.0.0.22d83356ZSB6Dn +--- 2563328 +>>2563145 +unweighted nymphs + drop shot can be goated +--- 2563356 +>>2563248 +what's the issue with mop flies? +also, what patterns don't you like + +looking to get back into fly fishing which is rare in my area +--- 2563360 +>>2563248 +This. Millennials go "fly fishing" use mop flies and other cheater patterns, easily reach their limit, often more, and return to the same spot the next day and do it all over again. I swear they won't even work for their fish let alone get a real job/career. They also use gps on their phones to mark spots so they guarantee to return to the same honey hole over and over, completely destroying the sport with their technology addictions. Don't even get me started with how they need a picture of every fish they catch. They actually have the nerve to ask others for their honey holes, a complete sense of entitlement. Sorry youngster, got mine. Find your own. Lazy technology obsessed and unwilling to work. 'ate em +--- 2563365 +>>2563360 +lol +--- 2563371 +>>2563360 +What the fuck are mop flies anyway? Are they really that effective? + +All the rich fags euro nymph now. Their flies are so lame and they don’t usually tie their own. If they do tie, all they can slap together are perdigons. Don’t get me wrong, weighted flies right to the feed zone is fine, but that’s literally all they can do and are only semi effective on larger rivers that don’t have a bunch of stocked fish holding in three different places. They hardly land anything over 10” faggot my phony. +--- 2563374 +>>2563027 +nah that sounds like a bitch who just jumps from man to man. she's trash. there is absolutely no reason to get sad over someone like that. if it had ended up in long-term, or marriage, he would have got divorced rape after she cheats. +--- 2563375 +>>2563114 +big fish can get caught on very small spinners, but if occasionally the hooks on the smaller spinners can get bent out. Mepps makes larger sizes specifically for larger fish, even huge musky spinners. If you want to target larger fish get a sze 2 or 3 Mepps at minimum. +--- 2563376 +>>2563145 +I don't use wacky rigs and many other finesse bass techniques. Only a ned rig/standup head and NEVER with your typical plastic worm. I don't want to pull out every 2lb bass that's been caught 20 times. I also won't use buzzbaits, whopper ploppers, or non-walking frogs. +--- 2563380 +>>2563026 +she cheated on you bro, leather up and move on +--- 2563381 +>>2563380 +More like she was cheating on someone else +--- 2563400 +>>2563360 +so glad I'm a zoomer streamer fag and not a millennial euronymphomaniac +--- 2563406 +>>2563400 +I thought sex dungeons, pearl necklaces, and peanut envy streamers offended your sensibilities? Aren’t zoomies all pc and trooned out? +--- 2563415 +>>2563263 +I’ve caught an 8 lb pike on 1/8 oz spinner while targeting browns and smallies. It’s nerve racking as hell when you’ve got decent pike on an UL setup with like 4 lb test. + +I’ve lost a fair few more 1/8th oz spinners the same way, which is why I run single hook and barbless when fishing small baits on light line. Same for #03 Ripping Raps, though my best pike on one of those was more like 5 lbs. +--- 2563430 +>>2563374 +I know objectively i'm better off without her, i know it'll scar over eventually right now shit just sucks. never imagined it would fall apart the way it did. I've never felt quite as comfortable without anyone as I did with her. Didn't just lose a fuck buddy it feels like I lost someone I knew for 30 years. +--- 2563445 +>>2563430 +She’s going to fish all your spots with Chad Thundercock +--- 2563495 +>>2562567 (OP) +gearfagging aside, are telescoping fishing rods good enough for travel fishing? +--- 2563504 +>>2563495 +I'm sure there are a few nice ones, but they won't be cheap. WAY more good options of multi-piece travel rods, and way better pricing. less failure points too by design. +--- 2563507 +>>2563504 +The only downside of multi pieces rods is they might get stuck. +I have a 2 piece rods that I haven't been able to separate back to 2 pieces. +--- 2563544 +>>2563507 +you prevent that with maintenance and never leaving it together for extended time. most people use ferrule wax +--- 2563621 +>>2563544 +I have one that got stuck for like over 3 years now. Is there any hope? +--- 2563629 +>>2563621 +if you've had it together for this long, you probably don't need it apart. +--- 2563651 +im fucking sick of these things getting inside, will trout eat them?? +--- 2563696 +>>2563317 +chinese old school latex/rubber waders are legit. they are not the most comfortable things out there but they keep you dry. $75 for chinese breathable waders is a bit of risk, you can get legit brand like cabela's or frog togg for like $100-$130 +--- 2563716 +>>2563293 +Hella +>>2563317 +No +>>2563026 +>>2562994 +Try getting a motorcycle they're fun,motorcycle fishing is goat, and if you suddenly decide to an hero then veering off in to oncoming traffic is way more likely to kill you on a motorcycle than in a car +--- 2563742 +>>2563381 +Haha, true. Anon was the side piece, chick had her fun, felt bad about it and went back to chad. +--- 2563743 +>>2563651 +Hook one and report back. +--- 2563760 +is florida the holy land of fishing? +you can do everything there +river fishing, lake fishing and sea fishing +countless species in the freshwater and even more in the salt water with. +The population is also very good. +--- 2563782 +>>2563742 +that's not how that dynamic works. if anything the guy at home is the beta and she's out fucking chads. +--- 2563790 +>>2563760 +>The population is also very good. +fish? sure +people? eeeh... +--- 2563851 +>>2563760 +>Florida +>Holy land of fishing +Fucking americans. Come to patagonia i'll show you real fishing +--- 2563857 +>>2563851 +you don't want that +--- 2563861 +>>2563857 +you're right, northern european (dutch, swiss, german, swedish, norwegian) tourist are kind and respectful. Americans are loud, arrogant, obnoxious. I take back what I said +--- 2563868 +>>2563851 +So we can go for mostly the same species as in the states? +--- 2563872 +>>2563868 +introduced fish? Maybe +--- 2563879 +Been tearing up the Rock Bass (we call em Redeyes) on my land lately +--- 2563881 +>>2563861 +your women sure do love us americans. +--- 2563888 +>>2563881 +all they see is a green card lmao. They'll leave you immediately after getting residency +--- 2563947 +>>2563861 +The majority of Americans that take trips down there are rich yuppies that pretend to be outdoors-y. We don’t like them up here either. Anyway, do you fly fish or what? Pretty cool that there aren’t any stocked trout in your streams. +--- 2563958 +>>2563145 +Pin rigging because I don't know how and don't want to look foolish or ask for help +--- 2563960 +I hate the meteorologists... they are wrong 75% of the time. Always changing the forecast. They said it was supposed to be bad storms today, and it has been perfect all day long. They said it was supposed to be nice all weekend, now they say it's supposed to storm all weekend. FUCK THEM! I should have fished today. +--- 2563962 +>>2563879 +coosa +--- 2563963 +>>2563888 +Wrong. There are lots of preggo and happily married ones here. +--- 2563971 +>>2563960 +why do you listen to a weatherboy when meteorolic data is available online for free? +--- 2563978 +>>2563971 +Even that is wrong, at least for my area. +--- 2563994 +settle a debate for me: fishing is better when high or drunk +--- 2563995 +>>2563994 +Kayak fishing is the best fishing I hage available regularly and I rather not be drunk or high while on my kayak +--- 2564005 +>>2563994 +fly fishing off a spliff +--- 2564030 +>>2563994 +If you need to be high or drunk, you don't actually like fishing +--- 2564036 +>>2563994 +> t. the guy who leaves beer cans and rolling paper wrappers on the bank +--- 2564037 +>>2563962 +Tallapoosa +--- 2564147 +>lost so many spinners at the river +>going into spinner related debt +--- 2564161 +When does something like a Magdraft beat out a Huddleston? +--- 2564165 +>>2564147 +stop running them as trebles. either cut the treble eye and add a split ring like spoons, or cut two hooks off of the stock treble. less snags. +--- 2564191 +I caught this bluegill today that someone used as bait. I'm assuming it will recover fully assuming it doesn't get eaten first. +>>2563879 +Rockbass are cool +--- 2564192 +>>2564191 +This is also coming along. +--- 2564211 +>>2564192 +looks like fun to cast. what do you expect the lure weight range to be? +--- 2564223 +>>2562994 +What, does the rock have cooties now? Never understood this line of thinking. That's a miserable way to live. Move your life on from this one random bitch out of actual billions, go to your favorite spots and enjoy fishin again. Otherwise you're gonna have to give up oxygen too since that's something she likes I bet. +--- 2564293 +>>2564192 +Aw fuck my glue was still tacky this morning. Hopefully it's just curing slow from the cold, but if it's still tacky I might try painting just hardener over the glue to try to help it set. If that doesn't work I don't know. +>>2564211 +Should cast 1/16 to 3/4 if I can unfuck it +--- 2564295 +Picked up a fly tying setup despite not knowing how to fly fish, time to sink hundreds of dollars into tying my own jigs! +--- 2564296 +Redfin Autist here. +I fucking did it. Here is conclusive proof that they are reproducing in the pond. This little fellow is far too small to be one of the founding stock. I'm gonna keep him in this aquarium for further study. Probably need to add some structure etc to it. +--- 2564328 +How can I catch a carp this time of year? I never fished carp before but I found a park that has a pond filled with dozens of small (about one foot long) carp. I tried sweet corn and they were swimming right by it with no reaction. They weren't even eating the corn I chummed. +Any tips? The park is urban so I think the fish are used to people, but there's so many and they're small so I doubt all of them have been caught before. +--- 2564361 +>>2564295 +Look up gunnar brammer on YouTube he has a cool spin jig series +>>2564296 +That's awesome! My understanding is that esox like to put their eggs on vertical reeds like cattail and bullish +>>2564328 +Try bread +--- 2564414 +>>2564328 +I never have gone after carp, but my dad swears by balls of bread or cornmeal doughballs on treble hooks +--- 2564426 +>want to buy lures +>too much choice +--- 2564490 +>>2563495 +I have a little beauty of a Ron Thompson telescopic. Handy little number, managed to get it for a discount though, you should see how she sparkles in the sunlight. +--- 2564526 +>>2564293 +>Hopefully it's just curing slow from the cold, +thats all it was, im excited +--- 2564593 +I'm now in love with inline spinner flies. +Definitely need to get more. +--- 2564677 +>>2564593 +--- 2564678 +Bros, I was in a pier in case anything was biting. As soon as I start leaving I hear a big splash and think it's gotta be a striper, immediately start casting, see another splash after a minute, keep casting. +Couple minutes pass, im reeling in sudddenly a boat comes rushing back to the dock, stops right 50 meters from me... I start moving to have a better casting place. They cast one out right there and 10 secs later, fish gets hooked...wooohs at me, he's happy. +I awkwardly laugh...good for you bro +--- 2564686 +>>2564678 +I sometimes kayak fish just outside of casting range of shore fags to mog them whenever I land a fish +--- 2564689 +>>2564686 +I'm about to make a shallow water anchor system like this for my kayak +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKkndhciisQ [Embed] +I'm almost done making two for either side of my jon boats transom. I already had the fiberglass poles so all I have to do is make boxes for the eye bolt and pvc. +can't wait to use it on the creeks +--- 2564731 +>>2564689 +I don't really target anything in such shallow water for kayak stick anchor to work for me. +--- 2564752 +>>2564677 +This is a Genius Idea +Can't buy this in Germany +--- 2564765 +>>2564296 +Little dude ate 2 minnows with the quickness. Look at his little belly lol. If I can find another I might try to breed them. In any event, I'll have to find some of those fish hormones the wildlife department uses to make musky spawn in captivity too. +--- 2564766 +>>2564752 +I had to make them myself +--- 2564796 +>>2562567 (OP) +Buying a pelican catch 100 classic for my first kayak. Mainly going to use it in smaller lakes and some rivers. Is it gud? +--- 2564800 +>>2564796 +looks good broseph +--- 2564809 +>>2564731 +the pole is 8ft and taking into account the box/pvc about 7 feet of it can be used. I imagine I'll be anchoring in no more than 5 feet most of the time which is great for creeks and bed/pad fishing on lakes. +--- 2564821 +>>2564809 +The possible down side of the system is that the pole wouldn't penetrate the ground from just a drop so you have to manually push it into the ground anyway. When people use pole anchor, it's typically simple cave man shit where they jam a pole through the drain hole or attach a rope to connect the pole to the kayak and just jam it down +--- 2564823 +where do you guys buy nikko lures from +--- 2564832 +>>2564766 +pretty good idea +i will steal that actually +i will order a few mayflies and spinners +then i will cut the treble hook off, add a split ring and the fly. +--- 2564835 +>>2564821 +True but typically where it would be used is soft gravel or sand. I plan on using it for positioning near banks and in creek channels where it's mostly soft. It has its limitations but it'll work most of the time. I've even seen people put weights on the poles so it goes down better. +--- 2564837 +>>2564835 +Ah that's fine. I just question the effort to put in such system when you can just use the caveman way with the pole anchor. +--- 2564843 +>>2564837 +It's actually not very complicated. Paracord is tied to the bottom of the pole, it comes up through a box, over and through an eye bolt, then out of the box to where you sit. Then you cleat the rope to keep the pole up and release it when you want it down. +The complicated part is securing a platform for the box on the uneven transom of a kayak and feeding the rope to where you sit. You can do it on top or through the hull where you'd out rudder or steering cables. +--- 2564867 +I got 2 lures at home +The right one is 3g and the left 6g + +What is a good/cheap rod that is good for these lures? +I'm looking to expand my Lure knowledge and amount of lures in my bag + +I'm also the guy that asked if a spinning rod can be used for other species and methods like Barbel and carp fishing. +--- 2564871 +>>2564867 +I also just saw a shimano slx but it's still 70€... +If i could get something a little more cheaper +--- 2564875 +>>2564867 +there are a lot of fishing rods my man, just pick a decent brand with a decent price and weight range. +Personally I use a rod thats rated 20-70 grams and I still use smaller lures with it. It's not perfect but it does the job still +--- 2564877 +>>2564867 +also go to the store, people there can help you better and its nice to have a feel for the rod you are choosing. You can always choose to order the same model but online +--- 2564886 +>>2564867 +6ft medium action rod with a spinning reel. You can get cheap combos like that for under $50 +--- 2564897 +>>2564867 +for those, you want a medium light rod. usual lure rating on rods like that are around 3.5-14g or 3.5-10.5g for example. paired with some mono like 8lb trilene xl for example, since it's limp and thin enough to work smaller hardbaits without messing up the action, but it's still pretty strong. +--- 2564922 +>>2564886 +Dang... That's pretty nice +On the 12th I'll go to the store then + +>>2564877 +>>2564875 +I'll do that + +>>2564897 +I heard that superficial lures all have the same movement and the rod doesn't matter. Is this right? +I heard that it's more used at the bottom of the water because you can feel the bottom +--- 2564925 +you guys DO watch the master bait maker right? +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqny_VuCYgI [Embed] +--- 2564940 +>>2564925 +ofc, he got me into luremaking. +He might not be the best since he still sometimes makes lure where the action sucks. But they do always look amazing. I like that he tackles a lot of designs and does some softbait making too +--- 2564942 +>>2564922 +I'm not talking about getting specific rods for specific lures, just a rod that's rated for specific weight range of lures. You don't want to be casting 3g lures on medium rods or heavier line, it will have shit casting distance, and the rod won't bend at all when working the lures. medium light is limber enough to be able to work countless smaller baits, and cast them well, yet not have any real disadvantage on heavier lures like 10g. it's just the more versatile rod. it's better to have a rod that bend easier than a stiffer rod when it comes to a using a wide range of hardbaits. a medium rod is better for things like setting hooks on larger finesse baits, and large hardbaits like 10cm length. you will limit the versatility of the rod by getting a stiff rod. many people make this mistake before going and getting a softer rod. "a medium action rod is the perfect all-rounder" mainly refers to big bass fishing in america, because a lot of techniques are finesse fishing with heavy wire hooks, topwater frogs, and big spinner/chatterbaits. +--- 2564946 +>>2564940 +>He might not be the best since he still sometimes makes lure where the action sucks +True, but you can learn from every single one of his videos even when he makes those wild "lures" lol. I only started making lures last year and I'm making a bunch for this summer. +Making a 2.5 inch, 4 inch, and 6 inch swim bait and some crank baits. Also doing some hard body spinners which I love fishing with. +--- 2564948 +>>2564940 +also what clear coat do you use? I've been using just 30 minute epoxy and it worked out at first but it's really been chipping and cracking way too easily. Thinking of going to KB Diamond Clear because you just dip it in and pull it out then let it drip. +--- 2564953 +>>2564948 +lupa envirotex lite, its been treating me alright. One time I didnt mix the 2 components correctly but the coat was still usable. Its just a little softer since it didnt hard correctly +does take 24 hours to dry though +--- 2564957 +>>2564871 +> NEX611LMFC +--- 2564959 +>>2564953 +I just hate that I make a nice bait that works really well and it's the clear coat that fails rather than it getting snagged or not performing well. +--- 2564970 +i hate riging softbaits on jigs +i can't get it right +either the lure is too far forward or too far back +--- 2564972 +>>2564970 +I don't like jigs in general. I usually texas rig. +--- 2564975 +>>2564972 +but you still have to put it on a hook +that is the part i hate and that i obviously can't do +--- 2564998 +>>2564975 +you get used to it, line the bait up with the hook to see where the hook point should come out +--- 2565005 +>>2564970 +you need to measure it first. it's only really annoying with extremely durable baits that are tough, or really fragile ones that fall apart if you mess up once. trying to just estimate is the hardheaded way and rarely works. +--- 2565013 +the bite was going crazy today, my arm is tired now +--- 2565018 +>>2565013 +nice, I caught a similar sized brown yesterday on a inline spinner fly, only had one other bite though +--- 2565075 +finally went fishing lads, caught this guy early morning. i was gonna take him for the table but he got loose shortly after this picture. +>>2564832 +good luck. i used no knot fas-snaps if you google them they should come up +>>2565013 +congrats anon +--- 2565076 +>>2565075 +then a little while later i swung this guy up on a white streamer. after that i moved to a new spot and i hooked two more on an inline spinner but i lost both of them because i suck. +--- 2565078 +Pic, in the middle of swallowing another mosquitoefish(?) alive. +Guys so far I have learned that the redfin truly does stay completely (I cannot stress that enough) motionless for long periods of time. When he decides to hunt he points his body, very very slowly, at the target, regardless of steepness of angle. Over the course of 2 or 4 minutes he very very slowly moves towards target before an outrageous burst of speed. Extremely drunk, will try to write up a more detailed report in the future. +--- 2565083 +>>2565078 +yup sounds like esox +--- 2565152 +>>2562632 +I think natural color is better in clear water, and lgbt colors in shitty waters. Lure type and fishing it correctly is more important i think +--- 2565153 +dark natural work in stained water? usually go with pumpkins/watermelons with a bit of flash +--- 2565154 +>>2563102 +Mepps are generally god tier spinners +--- 2565155 +>>2563114 +I had a 35gram one of these assholes, spinners arent always small. Pike will hit anything. Ive had a pike attack the tip of my rod while unhooking a trout, because the tip was clearing the platform and not much more than 10cm above water, granted it was a small one. But they will generally hit anything, some days they hit my float when i use roach as dead bait (stirry water). A good rule of thumb is that larger bait gets rid of smallest hits. Though they sometimes hit jerk baits that are larger than them because they are retarded or just trying their luck. +--- 2565157 +>>2563288 +https://youtu.be/X9bqgv0NCYs [Embed] +--- 2565159 +>>2564970 +You just need practice. Measure the jig and plastic side by side to see where the hook will come out . Mark the top of the plastic (you can do it with the hook tip). Thread the plastic in jig slowly, take your time to adjust to make sure everything is centered. Push the tip of the hook through the marked spot when you get there. +Jigs should be easy. Trying to thread big plastic swimbait like these only the jig head nicely is a bigger pain in the ass but I can do it easily now with some practice (with trials and failures during practice) +--- 2565162 +>>2563430 +I just lost someone i knew for 15 years. Turns out she talked shit about me to everyone when i wasnt around. Explains why her family and friends dont like me though. She specifically told people that i was a violent alcoholic, little did she tell them about how she gets day drunk and fall down the stairs with her neighbours present, and how i take care of her every time she gets blackout drunk and vomit for hours. + +Women are fucking retarded and rarely worth it. But yea it sure does suck when you just split with them. But it does get easier with time +--- 2565164 +>>2563971 +Alternatively you could look out the window +--- 2565180 +>>2564296 +>>2564765 +>>2565078 +based +--- 2565204 +I will finally fish tomorrow after two years. Well I did once last year for some pier bonitos. +--- 2565222 +>>2565153 +Black/blue, white, and red are my go to stained colors. If the water is always dirty I feel you can get away with natural colors more, but if the water is usually clear and gets dirty following heavy rain the bold colors seemingly help +--- 2565241 +>>2565153 +In fairly clear water, I do good with natural colors and stuff like pumpkinseed and watermelon and baby bass. + +In mildly cloudy water, some of the brighter colors and white, and slightly darker colors like there’s a Zoom color called “sprayed grass” that’s like halfway between a pumpkinseed or watermelon and a darker junebug or okoeechobee. Also gold hardbaits and spinners. + +In cloudy water, dark stuff like junebug, that black/purple seems to do work in the muddy stuff with less visibility. + +In clear but stained water, like that brown color, if the natural stuff isn’t working, chartruese pepper will do the job for some reason. Pic related is some clear but stained lake where these peacocks won’t touch shit but chartruese. +--- 2565242 +>>2562567 (OP) +I hardly use anything but inline spinners and spoons recently. I don't know why but they seem to almost universally be the most effective lure, except for specific use cases like jigging ledges and docks. Stopped going to Caboomers or any fishing store BC I can buy spinners spoons and jigs at any dollar store. Highly recommend them, paired with a light weight rod and low test line which makes the fight more exciting. Anyone else do this? Fish with a few lures almost exclusively? +--- 2565254 +>>2565242 +I did that before moving to Florida. I always thought it was impossible to catch bass in July and August in the Midwest, and Florida is like those water temps 10 months out of the year. Then I learned how to use a Texas rig. + +Spinners are for panfish, Jan-Feb, at dusk and when a coldfront is coming. +--- 2565300 +>>2565242 + +I only use casting spoons for covering water, since they cast well. Other than that not a fan of them at all, put a lot of work in with them and own a ton and just find they don't catch as good as other lures. +--- 2565332 +>>2565242 +>>2565254 +very small inline spinners work year round for bass and panfish. like Mepps 00 and 0 and some 1 sizes. I think they're just irritating to fish and they can't exactly make out what it is when it flies by them fast. it's just flash, noise, and vibration. for that reason it's a good searchbait. most bass fisherman use the big old spinners with skirts but I outfish all my buddies when they're using them and I'm using small Mepps. I have great success with the more plain ones too, not the dressed ones. +--- 2565350 +>>2563145 +Drop shot, basically any bass finesse technique. I swimbait fish majority of the time but still fish conventional lures, but they're all stupid big, like a 13" worm wacky rig or a big spinnerbait. I love throwing a spinnerbait. +--- 2565389 +>>2565332 +Mepps 00 fucking suck from shore when it’s hot and bass are sitting kind of deep off a ledge and you can’t cast the thing more than 30ft and it won’t run more than a couple feet deep. +--- 2565425 +>>2565155 +I love savage gear +--- 2565436 +>tfw you realize lure fishing is one giant meme +I've caught more fish on simple bobber and worm or a piece of bread than I have throwing around lures +--- 2565441 +>>2565436 +I mean if numbers is all youre go ahead, but lure fishing for pike, musky or something else that fights is more fun to me. bread or worm bobber fishing are usually just fish you can lift out of the water without a drill +--- 2565442 +>>2565436 +I don't want to catch blue Gill +--- 2565455 +>>2565441 +>>2565442 +Haven't caught a pike yet but I've netted small bluegill around an inch or two and used those to catch bass. Also literally just wacky rigging an entire earthworm always works for me. Also caught a trout yesterday on a worm (stocked by FWS so it doesn't really count tho) +I think people underestimate how much smell factors into fishing, even with sight predators like bass. That's why people whine about Gulp being cheating. + +I'm also just tired of wasting my money when I snag on underwater logs and other shit I can't see. Plus the pollution I'm causing when I have to cut the line and leave it there. +--- 2565458 +>>2565436 +depends what you are fishing for. also a lot of popular lures are large and oversized. I have had days where they won't touch bait but destroy lures. +--- 2565474 +>>2565455 +>Plus the pollution I'm causing when I have to cut the line and leave it there. +Bro please educate yourself you are not supposed to just cut your line and leave it there. I knew you were a beginner from what you 1st said but this is fucking bad Next time try pulling your bait up instead of cutting it when you get caught on a twig. +--- 2565513 +>>2565436 +If all you want is easy eating size panfish, then sure. +--- 2565524 +recently started fishing for the first time since I was ten years old, same rod and everything. Had this happen to my reel the other day, no idea what all the terminology means, just want another spinning reel that's similar to it but won't break on me. +My pole is medium fast 6'0" if that matters idk. +I usually just run bait + bobber but I want to try an inline spinner, again idk if that matters. +this reel was 5.2:1 gear ratio with 3-6 lbs line rating +--- 2565537 +>>2562567 (OP) +Probably a stupid question, but has anywhere here tried to 3dprint fishing lures? +--- 2565584 +>>2565524 +Anything diawa or shimano should be good. A 2000 or 2500 size reel looks like it will fit well. +--- 2565594 +just upgraded my license to an "almost" commercial license where i can set traps and nets and shit, really excited +just have to report it to the harbour if its a fixed net but thats about it! also gonna try some crawfish traps +--- 2565600 +any good bass/fishing tournaments for free on youtube? +--- 2565602 +Do you guys use any websites to buy gear? +--- 2565618 +>>2565602 +Tacklewarehouse or tackledirect have the best variety. However, sometimes I just scout around for good sales +--- 2565620 +>>2565602 +discount tackle is my favourite +--- 2565623 +>>2565602 +Tacklewarehouse during seasonal sales is dangerous for the wallet +--- 2565639 +>>2565602 +Tacklewarehouse is my favorite because they’re relatively close to me so the free shipping is damn fast. Discount Tackle and Omnia usually have good choices too +--- 2565646 +>>2565389 +they have a model called the XD(extra deep) and you gotta cast them on a light rod. I use a Crappie jig shooting rod for small inline spinners and it launches them far as fuck. I don't really fish spinners in deep areas like that anyways though. If I'm targeting bass on a deep dropoff, I use a slow-sinking jerkbait, a lipless crankbait, or a craw on a standup jig. If I'm bank fishing and can throw a small spinner parallel to a bank though and cover a lot of bank, it's killer. +--- 2565648 +>>2565436 +this happens if you're using "normal sized" lures... but switch to small shit and watch what happens. I'm talking under 2 inches. +--- 2565650 +>>2565524 +grab a shimano sienna fg SN2500FG or SN2500HGFG($29) if you want a solid cheap reel. pair it with some 8lb trilene xl line. modern "plastic" reels won't do that unless you literally step on them. +--- 2565652 +>>2565602 +discounttackle for lures. tackledirect and tacklewarehouse for rods, reels, ect. tackledirect's shipping is retardedly fast even for standard shipping. they are in NJ and I got my shit several states away in like 2 days with standard shipping. I even asked for specific packaging method in the order comment and they did it for me. +--- 2565657 +>>2565620 +the good thing about discounttackle is their shipping is only like $3.99 when you don't spend the $50 or whatever threshold for free shipping. combine that with most lures always being a dollar or two cheaper than anywhere else(as long as it isn't on sale), it's the best place to order a couple of lures because after you combine the shipping price you can't get cheaper anywhere else. +--- 2565677 +I'm retarded and probably spend more time reading and watching fishing or looking at gear more than actual fishing. +--- 2565678 +>>2565677 +I spent days researching a lure and then when i finally have it it's not what i expected and I barely use it +--- 2565685 +>>2565677 + +If you like to catch fish, fishing is really a planning and knowledge game. While there are some fisheries you can just go out whenever and experiment and learn something new, a lot of fisheries are also tough and knowledge about how to already fish it is key. +--- 2565693 +>>2565677 +I wish I could make fishing my life. +Time literally flies. +--- 2565700 +>>2565678 +Of all the flavors of lures out there I only use a small handful of different categories now, just different sizes and colors within each. I ended up donating a shit load of my tackle to a buddy who wanted to get in to fishing to see if maybe he can have success on the lures I never gained confidence in. Most dudes slay on crankbaits, I cannot for the life of me catch on a crank +--- 2565705 +Hello fellas, long story short im a dude in my 20's and just stole my dads fishing rod, i live near a very wide river in europe and want to go fish in shore, i know some basics but i really dont trust my dads rig for the occasion anyone in here can give me some pointers on what type of rigging i should do ? +--- 2565709 +>>2565705 +P.S +the rig i have now is a pyramid weigh about 150 grams with a hook on a dropper loop with about 20 centimeters of distance from the weight and im using worms as bait +--- 2565713 +>>2565705 +What river is it? Is it wide because of impediments or are you near the estuary? +--- 2565714 +>>2565713 +North side of the Tagus River its a estuary friend +--- 2565720 +>>2565705 +Based tuga. +Im from Santarem + +What type of rod is it? +Post a pic of the rod and we can't advice you +--- 2565731 +>>2565720 +cant post pic right now +rod is some extendable junk about 2 and a half 3 meters long the spinning reel looks ok and holds 300 meters of line the line is 15 kilo pull weight on my dads fishing rod and i also got a basic set a while ago from a sporting goods and rigged it from scratch same rig except its 150 meters of line with 13 pull weight and on the hook line i got some 11kg weight line 0.35 mm thick so its a bit thinner (pic related) + +(sou do Montijo queria aprender a pescar no rio, o velho ensinou me uns basicos mas não confio isso tudo, ainda por cima só me ensinou a pescar de chumbada, tou a ver se o chateio para me ensinar a ir ao choco tambem que supostamente já está na epoca) +--- 2565734 +>>2565731 +This is my method +Main line connected to the weight and the hook line connected to the weight. +But that method is equally right. You can even tie more than 1 hook in your line with that method + +Para chocos ouço falar nos famosos "palhaços". +Ha 2 semanas atrás fui a Peniche e apanhei um polvo +--- 2565735 +>>2565734 +Oops... Forgot pic +--- 2565738 +>>2565734 +alright i guess the old man does know what hes doing tomorrow mornig im gonna go during the high tide see if something bites + +no outro dia ali no cais estavam uns velhotes dois ou tres como uma colecçao enorme de palhaços á vontade alguns 60 ou 70 diferentes em 3 ou 4 caixas de acrilico e lá apanharam um choco no meio de dois minutos de conversa pode ser que o velho me ensine a ir ao choco para a semana que vem +--- 2565739 +>>2565735 +i saw this too i guess its better to advoid line getting tangled +--- 2565754 +>>2565389 +add a split shot ya nerd +--- 2565758 +anyone use straight flouro on spinning gear? what's your preferred option? +--- 2565760 +Haven’t posted in awhile. Got a new truck, kayak is next. Until then I still have to shore fish. Got one today, new PB smallmouth. ~4.45 pounds, ~20” long. + +As I was shore angling, a bass angler strolled on up in his nice Ranger boat, plopped his power pole down and started to fucking drop shot this 2 pound male off a bed DIRECTLY in front of me. Saw him take a bunch of photos with it, put it in his live well and left. + +Had to stop fishing and just breathe slowly to calm myself down. This is my biggest pet peeve. After he left I threw my Deps 250 around that bed, got this female. Guess he didn’t see her. +--- 2565762 +>>2565738 +Aproveita a sabedoria. + +Já eu ando para aqui a tentar encontrar uma boa/barata cana de spinning para ir aos lucio percas/achigã/robalos/siluros +Os robalos ultimamente andam a chegar até ao Castelo de almourol +--- 2565769 +>>2565758 +nope. use Yo-Zuri Hybrid though. +--- 2565771 +>>2565769 +wish they still made the ultra soft version +--- 2565821 +>>2565760 +Heh. My old PB and new PB are the same fish, just a year apart. That’s cool. Almost gained half a pound in a year. +--- 2565824 +>>2565821 +That's pretty cool. What lure did you catch him on this year? +--- 2565835 +>>2565824 +Deps OG 250, same fish in >>2565760 but second photo is a better measuring of her for a comparison to what she was last year. +--- 2565838 +>>2565018 +Nothing better than pulling out a brown boy. Spring runoff is here, river went up 200 cfs yesterday. Going to have to wait it out for a little bit. +>>2565075 +Thanks. +--- 2565853 +>>2565648 +In my area you will only be able to catch trout and blue Gill if you downsize. +--- 2565865 +>>2565853 +nah. if you fish highly pressured areas, downsizing will catch bass too. of course you will get some smaller species naturally, but that happens with big lures as well. I have bluegill and other sunfish/crappie hit big hardbaits fairly often. +--- 2565875 +>>2565865 +>nah. if you fish highly pressured areas +Nah Heavily pressured areas tend to be full of beginner's, beginner's love To throw small Amazon luers Pick related You're better off upsizing or using a more realistic presentation +--- 2565877 +Isn’t this a Grass Carp or at least an Asian Carp of some kind? I only ask because he released it back after catching it. +--- 2565885 +>>2565875 +I'm sorry to break it to you, but fish don't give a fuck about "realistic looking to humans." they don't view things the same as you do. most people's ultra-realistic looking lures are paper weights, meanwhile retarded looking crankbaits with colors that don't replicate real fish do work. you ever seen a senko? +--- 2565887 +>>2563851 +wow, it's fly fishing for trout +trout +and also trout +did I mention the trout? +--- 2565914 +>>2563851 +you can get patagonia brand from walmart +--- 2565918 +I've always wanted to hit the Snake as I'm driving through Ontario, Oregon. Is it worth stopping for in the summer? Bank fishing only, catfish are cool as long as there's some big uns. +--- 2565960 +>>2565762 até é vergonhoso um gajo ser portugues e nao saber pescar, fui a primeira vez com o meu pai devia ter 9 ou 10 anos, ele lá tentou ensinar o que sabia mas tambem nao tenha esse interesse agora já crescido é que vejo o valor nestas coisas +--- 2565979 +>>2565960 +Uma pessoa só aprende quando não tem nada para fazer. +Eu ia à pesca com o meu pai quando tinha 13 anos. +Andava com uma cana direta de 5 metros. +Ele deixou de ir à pesca e ao 21 anos eu comecei a ir sozinho. Aprendi os nós todos e ainda me falta aprender mais coisas que ele não sabe. +Mas eu ensino-lhe. +Na semana passada ensinei-lhe a boia de correr para pesqueiros fundos. + +Antigamente a licença de pesca nacional era 5€ e agora é 20€ infelizmente. +O peixe gato anda a matar os peixes todos de antigamente. Bogas já são bem raras. + +Tenho um colega que já é patrocinado por 2 empresas e recebeu um barco gratuito e várias amostras de achigã e lucio perca +--- 2565999 +>>2565648 +What about going to the complete opposite end and throwing fuck huge lures? Every now and again I bring my swimbait rod to the community pond, get told my lures are too big and I’ll never catch anything. +--- 2566009 +>>2565887 +our salmon fishing is world class. +Trout fishing is world class, including ocean browns. +Peacock bass & Golden Dorado (need to go north for Dorado) are two of the most sought after sportfish on the planet. +Also deep sea fishing...Everything is here +--- 2566026 +>>2566009 +the only problem is you have to go to South America +--- 2566032 +>>2566026 +What a parochial douchebag opinion. South America is great, it’s Central America and where Central America bleeds into the USA that suck. +--- 2566038 +>>2566009 +Baja is closer +--- 2566042 +New setup, 5k stradic and MH mojo inshore +--- 2566072 +I've always been a baitcaster purist who's refused to use Shimano DC reels but for some reason recently I've been wanting to get one just to see what using them is actually like. Should I just do it or would it make me a faggot? +--- 2566073 +i'm looking for a spinning ned rod +1/20th to 1/6th oz +what do we got +--- 2566079 +>>2566032 +>South America is great +whatever you say favela monkey +--- 2566081 +>>2566073 +https://daiwa.us/collections/freshwater-rods/products/presso-ultralight-rods +--- 2566100 +>>2566072 +I don’t see the benefit of a DC reel outside of BFS. I still want to get an SLX combo with a DC reel just to say I have one though +--- 2566101 +>>2566081 +didn't really consider an ultralight, figured more medium light/xfast +--- 2566102 +>>2566082 +Aji is probably one of the most underrated sushi fish. +--- 2566104 +>>2566102 +i use them for noodels or with rice and vegetables +--- 2566112 +>>2566104 +I did aji nanbanzuke once that was really good. Definitely different though. +--- 2566123 +>>2566102 +But at the same time its true that sushi has been shilled for decades and is the most overrated food +--- 2566124 +>>2566072 +No clue brate, i only fish my daiwa exist +--- 2566129 +>>2566072 +there's no reason for a metanium +--- 2566165 +>>2565999 +doesn't work as good but you might get lucky I guess. I fish a heavily pressured lake where even on the weekdays you have 100 retired bassboat boomers from sunup to sundown. they probaby go there every other day. I catch no bass at all on your conventional bass shit, not even dinks... but If I take my panfish tackle I catch multiple a day, and around 20 inchers on average. of course I catch lots of other shit while doing it, but you will get absolutely skunked at that lake if you throw normal shit targeting bass 9/10 trips. people even post on forums that the lake is "dead" or must have had a "die-off" that's how bad it is. every bass I pull in is missing half it's lip so you can tell it's been caught dozens of times at least. I've recently started buying lots of BFS harbaits because it's the closest large lake to me and it's hilarious catching bass in front of guys who have $50k boats and 12 rods laying out on the deck. I've told this here before but guys will even pull up to me asking what I'm using and they laugh, tell me I just got lucky, and that my "bream" tackle is gonna get the hooks bent out on bass(which they never do.) +--- 2566168 +>>2566073 +> 1/20oz to 1/6oz +that's an odd range. is that just the weight of the jig heads without the soft plastics? the daiwa aird-x rods are very sensitive for a budget rod, especially when using braid. +--- 2566178 +>Don't bite on Squid +>DO bite on Shrimp +>Pufferfish demolish any shrimp I throw out before a Snapper an get to them. +I'm fishing the Florida Intercoastal on some docks, & while it's fun, I'm doing 1 snapper per 12 shrimp MAX. They're all around 10 inches to a foot since it's coastal. Do I switch to cut pilchards? Sand fleas? Help me out here. +--- 2566195 +>>2566123 +I don't think good sushi is overrated, but the generic stuff you usually get definitely is. +--- 2566203 +>>2566165 +Should have been a bit more clear that I do have success throwing glides, kind of a why not both question. I have my best success with panfish tackle there, it’s an urban man made community pond that gets fished to high hell. It’s just the closest thing i can fish after work. Every now and again i get a wild hair up my ass and wanna throw a glide granted it’s not as productive although when it is it’s always a decent fish. Whenever I have my panfish or swimbait setups I get told I’m not using the right stuff by guys using standard bass tackle who aren’t catching anything +--- 2566231 +>>2563851 +>>2563760 +It’s not bad, deep sea fishing is right off the coast and tons of good freshwater, plus the mangroves and so much inshore, dudes even fly fish in the calm saltwater. The only thing is probably no mountain stream fly fishing for tiny little trout. + +Funny story is there was some anon from Asia like Thailand or some shit where snakeheads are native and he would comment on how giant the Florida canal sneks are because they’re overfished like crazy in Asia by people trying to catch dinner. + +Pic related is a size 13 shoe +--- 2566294 +>>2565821 +that's fucking cool anon, hopefully next year she's a 5 +--- 2566300 +>>2563879 +oswego bass you mean? +--- 2566342 +Is crappie anon still around? + +I'm getting tired of fishing with worms. I caught one bluegill on a 2inch fluke this year. I've tried inline spinners, standard and downsized jerk baits and crank baits. Beetle spins. I used tear them up on floating rapalas. I guess the water may be too cold still. +--- 2566388 +>>2566073 +you need one of my hyper finesse rods +see >>2564192 +>>2564293 +>>2566072 +you're already a faggot the shimano dc has nothing to do with that +>>2566342 +thats a slab +>>2566231 +go fishing +--- 2566437 +>>2566342 +I think you might be referring to me, but that looks like a good fish. I haven't really caught many crappie yet since winter, but the weather has been all over the place so I've gone fishing way less than I normally do. I'll be testing those small jerkbaits out soon though, I feel like it's finally starting to "stay" spring weather wise. Late summer and early fall is when I had a lot of luck with jerkbaits specifically last year. +--- 2566451 +>>2565877 +Grass carp +I love that dude's videos +--- 2566453 +>>2565885 +Hey man welcome to fishing I see you're already confused jaded and angry at everyone. So how about you find a different hobby? +--- 2566456 +>>2566453 +Did you by any chance also buy the robo goldfish lure? +--- 2566457 +>>2566456 +I would most likely play with it till It broke. +--- 2566458 +My relatives live in Rhode Island right on a salt marsh with striper in it when's the nearest time I can go there to get stripper? +--- 2566462 +Does anybody here spearfish? I do a lot of freshwater spearfishing. Largemouth bass is my favorite, but I'll take trout for eating. +--- 2566463 +>>2566458 +go when he's hungry so he'll bite your lures +--- 2566480 +>>2566082 +Gosh I wish that was me bro +--- 2566551 +Ontario going through a week of good weather (18-25 celsius), going to be fishing the first time this year. Won't have a problem with crappie as I just find a school and use the same small coloured jigheads with a tail and generally can get 10+ in the boat for a nice feast. My question is, what would you guys throw this time of year during a small heat spell for bass? (LM+SM). +Already plan on throwing small crankbaits but if it doesn't work think a ned rig should do the trick? +--- 2566552 +>>2565979 +eu sempre fui no outro dia,mas nao apanhei nada, o pesqueiro onde fui aqui no montijo é conhecido como porto das lesbicas e agora sei porque hahahha, tive três horas a dar banho á minhoca e nao picou nada acho que os pesqueiros aqui são fraquinhos, vou tentar aprender mais tipos de pesca tambem, para ir a outros sitios pescar, acho que para a semana vou a setubal ver se pica, +--- 2566565 +>>2566458 +If its deep there will be bass there all year long including the winter. If its shallow you can most likely get migratory bass spring and fall and then schoolies and rats in the summer. +--- 2566571 +>>2566458 +Check the tide charts for the area, generally you want to fish during a moving tide either on the rise or fall +--- 2566574 +bought a 2500 reel and looking to buy 10 pound braid. Will 150 yards be enough? +--- 2566581 +>>2566574 +it should tell you on reel what the capacity is. a lot of people will only spool 150 yards of braid to save money and the rest of cheap mono backing to fill the spool. +--- 2566585 +>>2566437 +Maybe. If you were the one always posting a slab. I'm on mobile so digging through the archive is a pain. + +Weather has been similar here. It's been like that here as well. Around the time was same for me but 2 years. Not sure what changed last year but there was only bluegill close at one of my spots. Now I've moved again and don't have as much time but it's hard to pass up a nice day and fish after class. +--- 2566600 +>>2566574 +No it won't. Will probably take 200yds or more of 10lb. +--- 2566613 +>>2566574 +I feel like most reels have a true capacity that is a little smaller than what they say on the reel. Or it’s the 10lb braid thay claims to be the diameter of 2lb or 4lb test, it ends up being a little thicker. + +Anyway the 2500 size varies between companies, but 10lb is thin so it may not be enough. I would grab a ~300yd spool if possible but you could also do like 50yds of mono backing easily. +--- 2566618 +>>2566574 +the specified capacity is usually printed on the reel or the manual +--- 2566624 +caught this little guy in a creek +--- 2566628 +>>2566581 +>>2566600 +>>2566613 +>>2566618 +ok so the reel says braid capacity 10/150... so basically it's exactly a perfect fit? too close to call? should I go with 300 yards? It's a "shimano miravel" +--- 2566642 +>>2566574 +depends on the reel. daiwa lts have retardedly deep spools so no way, and most other reels in 2000 size take around 150yds. you could just add mono backing first. +--- 2566644 +>>2566628 +like the other guy said, usually the diameter listing or spool capacity listing is off, often by quite a bit... so always just buy more line than you need and spool it up visually. Shimanos tend to hold about 10-15yds less than they claim from my experience, but that could just be variance in line diameters. some companies specifically list what brand braid, but even then it's a bit off. just buy the 300yd spool. +--- 2566650 +>>2566168 +just the range i use for neds, would more than likely be running straight flouro in the 4# range + +anyone familiar with monsterbass rods? +--- 2566694 +>>2566650 +>looks up monster bass +>they sell monthly mystery box +Hard no. If you're going to spend over $50 on a rod buy a Saint Croix or Shimano or at least a Fenwick eagle. +--- 2566727 +>>2566552 +Pahaha +Bom nome +Que isco andavas a utilizar? + +Experimenta o spinning. +--- 2566733 +So i bought my first spinning rod +Daiwa samurai 2.10m aka 6.88" +At their website it's at 42€ but i paid just 31 at a local store + +The rod is M and not MH +Does that make much difference? +--- 2566782 +anyone ever use a levante? worth the price? +--- 2566791 +>>2566733 +>M and not MH +Depends on what you want to do with it. If your local shop had it cheaper than online, good deal. +--- 2566797 +>>2566733 +>Does that make much difference? +some things cast beter on one or the other, same with giving action to a lure. But its not something I would worry about +--- 2566802 +>NEWWWW!!!! +>>2566800 → +>>2566800 → +>>2566800 → +>>2566800 → +--- 2567763 +>>2565455 +Nigger pull your line until it breaks at the hook/lure you dumb fuck. + +If I catch anyone just casually leaving fishing line in the water I'll casually leave my nasty bait knife in their sphincter diff --git a/out/2562886.txt b/out/2562886.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..be0161c282132b9dca06ebb55c9ad65d631e483e --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2562886.txt @@ -0,0 +1,256 @@ +----- +--- 2562886 +How immoral is it to poach small game like Jack Rabbits and Javelina in a south western National Forest? If there are any game and fish folks that could fill me in on the consequences. I’m relatively educated on the ecological effects of hunting and I’ll take that into account, but are their any other consequences to consider? +--- 2562906 +>>2562886 (OP) +>I must be special enough to be exempt from the rules to protect the environment from the tragedy of commons! +you are on the internet, if you are poor enough to "need" the meat, go use basketballer food gimbs like every other lazy faggot. +--- 2562918 +Poachers should be killed. Change my mind. + +protip: you can't. +--- 2562921 +>>2562918 +Natural selection would choose the poacher. Change my mind. +--- 2562926 +>>2562886 (OP) +>Morality of poaching + +Most people don't know the true meaning of the word "poacher". + +They think a poacher is the guy they hear about on the news who shoots a trophy deer and only takes the head leaving the rest to rot, or the guy who kills a bear taking only the gall bladder and claws. These aren't true poachers, they're slob hunters. The true poacher is a meat hunter, a man of the woods, fields, and rivers. He knows and respects the game he hunts. He takes the time to learn the ways of the wild creatures and all that surrounds them. He sees the natural world as a giant classroom and tries to learn all the lessons hidden within it. The true poacher will be able to interpret what he sees, hears , or smells in the woods, whether is be a track in the mud, the scolding of a jay, or the smell of a beaver along the riverbank. The true poacher is a highly skilled hunter, his level of skill is much higher than the "sportsman" because the true poacher is hunting for his dinner. If the "sportsman" comes home empty handed its no big deal, hell go to the nearest market for food. The real poacher on the other hand depends on his skill in order to feed himself and even his family, therefor he takes the job more seriously. The true poacher maintains a much higher awareness level than the sport hunter, because he is not just the hunter, but also the hunted. + +>TLDR + A mans gotta eat +--- 2562927 +>>2562886 (OP) +Conan the Barbarian would side with the poacher, and so will I. +--- 2562928 +>>2562926 +kek, thanks for the copypasta +--- 2562930 +>>2562886 (OP) +I'm not a warden but the consequences are greater than you think. Start with your firearm or bow being taken away, then a stiff fine (probably $400 per javelina) for hunting out of season or illegally taking game, another $200 for no license, another $50 to $100 for court costs, and wrap it up with loss of hunting AND fishing privileges in all 50 states for at least a year. Consider hunting legally instead of poaching, it's much easier in the end. One more thing: Once you've been busted for poaching you'll always be considered a poacher to Fish and Game as well as everyone in the county. It could impact your future job searches. +--- 2562983 +>>2562886 (OP) +Ruralfag here: You shoot game out of season you better be (a) very local and (b) very fucking hungry, or (c) a local Indian, with whom we have a long-standing gentleman's agreement. +--- 2562988 +>>2562983 +I’m a local and I intend to use the animals only for food. But the laws are very restrictive on hunting, even Javelina, weirdly when their meat isn’t popular. Obviously I would try my best to avoid getting caught. +--- 2563006 +>>2562886 (OP) +When it comes to poaching if you do it out of necessity no one with judge you. If you take all of said animal and the items you used to take it ie bullets, trap or arrows. it will be as normal as nature, but if you go for big game such as deer or elk as the larger and leave said carcass you effect the lands you love as much as the corporations that seek to own and destroy it. So if needed to take smaller game or large game more sparingly, if you just want to hunt then go about the legal way and get a 12 gauge and find which animal is in season as the 12 gauge is the most versatile across multiple species. +--- 2563075 +>>2562921 +Poachers being deprived of their weapon, their money and/or going to jail is natural selection in action. +Humans evolved to despise them and wish them out of their tribe. This is simply nature at work. +--- 2563076 +>>2562927 +Conan wouldn't approve of sneaky and underhanded behaviors. +--- 2563104 +>>2562886 (OP) +The moral part is you've taken wild game that the state has taken claim to. +The morality of the state taking what belongs to you(ie tax) is a similar moral question. +They have the means of violence to back up their claim, do you? +Or can you avoid the states violence? + +Doesn't sound like it's a moral question for you, sounds more like you're asking is the risk worth it or not? +If you're hungry cause the state taxed you too hard I'd say yes to both the moral and the risk/reward question. +--- 2563139 +>>2563076 +Conan the Barbarian was a burglar and a thief. +--- 2563142 +>>2563139 +When he did that he was all but sneaky +--- 2563154 +>>2562886 (OP) +On public or private land? +--- 2563155 +>>2562906 +Europissin spotted +--- 2563161 +>>2563142 +He was very sneaky, Conan moved like a panther through the shadows. He also had no reverence of authority and would have a good laugh if someone said he could not hunt for food. +--- 2563171 +>>2563161 +He also demanded sex in echange for helping women and would frequently give them "bruising kisses", but the last time I tried that I got banned from the library +--- 2563182 +>>2563171 +Conan was unphathomably based. +--- 2563218 +>>2562930 +They can take your trucks too my states DNR has a big auction were they sell confiscated guns bows fishing shit even trucks +--- 2563267 +>>2563218 +Isnt that only if the truck was used in the crime and they took possession of it during the bust? +Only other way i can imagine them yoinking your truck outa your driveway is if you dont pay your fines and they go into collections. +--- 2563316 +>>2563171 +What book does he demand sex? Most of the women he screws basically force him to have sex with them. The only time I can think of was when he tried to rape the snow banshee in Gods of the North. +--- 2563323 +>>2563316 +Conan is freaky like that +--- 2563351 +>>2562886 (OP) +The morality of poaching is dictated by your local laws. If the laws make sense, if they're guided by principles of conservation, and if they're keeping the ecosystem healthy and balanced, then poaching is very immoral. However, if the laws are unreasonable and/or are actively harming the ecosystem, then poaching is probably not so bad from an ethical point of view. + +However, in either case, you will have to face the consequences if you're caught, +and those consequences can potentially ruin your life. You have to ask the question: is it worth it? +--- 2563367 +>>2562886 (OP) +Poaching is theft of natural resources from the public in general and legal hunters in particular. Thieves should be maimed or killed. + +>jack rabbits +Rabbit season is 365 days in Arizona and probably other states where they're abundant. Just get a license you cheap faggot. +>javelina +Medium game, not small, and hunting is restricted by season to protect their population. +--- 2563393 +>>2562886 (OP) +if you're taking the animal in a respectful way and not taking more than you need it's perfectly moral. it's only illegal because the citizenry cannot be expected to follow those guidelines. if you get caught it would be disastrous though so maybe it's not worth it for some rabbits or porkers +--- 2563550 +>>2563218 +I’m not worried about confiscation I will hunt them with a handmade oak bow. +--- 2563552 +>>2563367 +2 Javelina a year is not reasonable. +--- 2563801 +Just do your scouting well, wardens are lazy faggots who will just wait at your vehicle. Others will rat you out so dont tell anybody. +Good luck, always wanted some javelina carnitas myself. +--- 2563933 +>>2562918 +>I think jewish bankers should determine what can and can't be hunted as well as where they can be hunted +good goy +--- 2564144 +>>2563933 +It’s definitely not as black and white as people make it out to be. +--- 2564167 +>>2563933 +I've been banned from /out/ many times for naming the jew but you're a little off the bullseye here. I'm neither 100% pro or anti poaching, so much depends on the species and other factors. For instance, the burrowing owl is likely to become extinct in my lifetime. Should we do what we can to save it? I believe we should, including prosecuting anybody to intentionally kills or harms one. On the other hand, point creep is so bad, and F&G response so inadequate that elk hunters are beyond frustrated. It's possible that an elk hunter will never draw a lowly cow tag in his lifetime, and I'd at least understand his state of mind if he poached one. I'm not saying let him off without penalty but I wouldn't throw the book at him if he took a cow in season and didn't waste the animal. Personally, I follow the rules to a T and I'm active in my state's game law legislation. The laws aren't perfect but they've prevented wholesale slaughter of wild game. +--- 2564206 +>>2564167 +>Should we do what we can to save it? +Who the fuck is we? You can do whatever you want, but you have no right telling me what i can or cant do on my fucking property +--- 2564231 +>>2564167 +I can agree with that, I still feel like anon is trying to justify not wanting to buy a license and just shoot squirrels +--- 2564235 +>>2564231 +Oh for sure. +--- 2564288 +>>2563104 +The moral part would be less about ownership rights and more a tragedy of the commons thing +I don't think anyone really believes the government has actual moral ownership of the wild resources they manage, but their management (supposedly) represents the common ownership of the people. The deer don't belong to the president like a feudal lord, they belong to the country as a whole, with the citizens in the country able to hunt them as they wish. But there's >300 million people in the states and only ~30 million deer, so obviously not everyone can just go out and shoot one or they'd go extinct in a month, so there needs to be some system to limit how many get taken. That extends to everything in nature, from the deer to the trees to the javelina. There's no inherent moral problem with hunting out of season or in banned areas specifically, those are artificial rules established by people, not nature, but there are moral issues with choosing to ignore rules that others choose to abide by for the common good. Yes it's mostly harmless as long as relatively few people choose to break them, but by breaking them you're taking an unfair advantage over the people that aren't, and relying on the other people to continue following the rules or lose access to the resource altogether from abuse. +Sometimes that's fine, there's no universal solution to morality and in many cases the harm from breaking a rule is insignificant and the benefits outweigh it easily, or they're more balanced and it's a grey area that requires personal judgment, cases need to be examined individually, but as a rule of thumb breaking rules that exist to establish cooperation tends to be immoral. + +That said, yeah OPs question is more about risk/reward and uses hes struggling to put food on the table he should just get a license and stick to legal game. +--- 2564306 +>>2564288 +>the common ownership of the people. +Disgusting, stop posting. +--- 2564447 +>>2564167 +Anyone who hasn't been banned from a side board for [how dare you be racist!} is doing it wrong. +My grandpa was one of the farmers in Montana that started game conservation. It was a gentlemen's agreement with the neighbors and they closely controlled the herd sizes for decades. +There is no good solution but lots of bad ones. +>>2564206 +>My property +Fun fact: I can absolutely use legislation to tell you what to do on your property. Your house is up to (((code))) and all your guns should be registered. The has been importing subhumans from the third world for decades now and now you get told what to do like any other third worlder by big daddy gubment. +--- 2564542 +>>2563552 +Your state has determined that amount is reasonable. They presumably put more work into that decision than you have. +--- 2564647 +>>2564447 +>fun fact: i can absolutely be a tyrant +Oh wait, really? I had no idea! + +>Your house is up to (((code))) +No it isnt +>all your guns should be registered. +Should doesnt mean anything, theyre not and you cant make them be +>and now you get told what to do like any other third worlder by big daddy gubment. +No i dont. + +Have you considered YOUR problem is YOU being a bitch? +--- 2564648 +>>2564542 +>assuming government competance +Literal insanity +--- 2564774 +>>2563267 +well if your poaching game like deer your usually using a truck to transport also poachers like to shoot from the road +--- 2564775 +>>2563552 +Depending on the amount of hunting tags sold it Is + If you would rather they cut the amount of tags sold in half and introduced a lottery system to shoot 4 insted your welcome to do that +--- 2564777 +>>2564206 +You don't own the wild animals they belong to the public same with water ways +--- 2564778 +>>2564306 +Seethe more public land is tge greatest thing in the usa poltard +--- 2564779 +>>2564777 +>>2564778 +Commie staters pretending theyre american is the funniest shit +--- 2564947 +>>2564779 +Too bad flyover fag you lost the culture wa +--- 2564949 +>>2562886 (OP) +So long as you eat it, it's fine. +Circle of life. +Trophy hunters can go die in a hole. +--- 2564952 +>>2562930 +Wow, (((they))) really are out to get all our money, aren't they... +--- 2564964 +>>2564947 +you coastal faggots are all going to die soon in nuclear hellfire, lol +--- 2565066 +>>2564947 +>doesnt deny +>immediately doubles down +Dont you have a town hall to molest, justin? +--- 2565082 +>>2562886 (OP) +No such thing as "poaching" +>>2562918 +>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HUNT ON THE KING'S LAND WITHOUT PERMISSION! +fucking kike +--- 2565102 +>>2565082 +So if you owned land, anyone could just show up and shoot anything they wanted there? No problem at all? Heck maybe I need a few cords of wood I'm sure you wouldn't mind +--- 2565111 +>>2565102 +Im not the king, im a private citizen not a state ward. My property is MY property. +--- 2565120 +Thanks for the replies guys. There is an extensive population of Javelina that is always growing, so I’m not worried about putting a dent into that. +--- 2565128 +>>2563161 +He was also able to back up his claims, are you too? +--- 2565136 +>>2564306 +>we have to preserve nothing the end is near anyways +Go fuck off flatearther +--- 2565200 +>>2565111 +It's not your just holding on to it for the government you still need to pay taxes on it +--- 2565237 +>>2565136 +Thats a very wild and out of nowhere assumption. You had literally nothing indicating the direction you went. Seriously get some help you might be schizophrenic. + +>>2565200 +>you still need to pay taxes on it +Lmao +--- 2566119 +>>2565237 +Ask me how I know you're a subhuman second worlder. +--- 2566131 +>>2562886 (OP) +Is it illegal to trap and eat Squirrels? I'm sick of those annoying bastards eating my bird seed. +--- 2566133 +>>2566119 +I will instead ask you why you pretend to know things you have no way of knowing +--- 2566182 +>>2566131 +I don’t know, but I’ve seen videos of people massacring them with air and pellet guns, so presumably it’s fine. diff --git a/out/2563028.txt b/out/2563028.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..df93eeee07a2b296616541bf893a3048412a1295 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2563028.txt @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +----- +--- 2563028 +What kind of vidya do you like to play when you're /out/? +--- 2563039 +Kys +--- 2563071 +None +--- 2563389 +>>2563028 (OP) +--- 2563422 +>>2563028 (OP) +Switch is nice, but I don't have one any more, would be fun to play some Crash Bandicoot while /out/ +--- 2563426 +>>2563028 (OP) +Sometimes I bring a controller to play retro games on my phone. +--- 2563478 +>>2563028 (OP) +nintendo dsi or ds lite + gba and ds flash cart, +or a gameboy sp with a backlight mod is also acceptable. +those are the endgame /out/ devices. they have massive battery life, they're pocketable, they're oldschool nintendo quality products that can be thrown around, they fit in a pocket, and they have a clamshell design to protect the screen. +the 3ds and switch are too easily breakable outdoors. +chink emulator handhelds are getting good but the build quality isn't older gameboy level so they're not as good. +when i was a kid in boy scouts i had a sega gamegear and a gameboy pocket. +--- 2563480 +I'd play oldschool runescape if I could be bothered, but that's not why I go out +--- 2563493 +Nothing but sometimes I bring my laptop to cood during camping trips +--- 2563514 +>>2563478 +remember that the original gameboys have daylight viewable screens, thus making them the ultimate out gaming machine. IPS mods are fucking ass for that reason. I do keep a 3ds in my camper van because it has a massive library of games + custom firmware and can charge with 5v USB. Its nice to have after a long hike, rainy day, or night time.I prefer to carry a waterproof ereader tho for multi day hikes or times when it will be sunny and I have spare time. +--- 2563523 +>>2563028 (OP) +I have a powkiddy v90 specifically for this purpose. Runs off of easily swappable batteries and runs GBA/super nintendo. Form factor is nostalgic, I just wish the chinks that made it put a little more of a powerful processor in the thing, I would've paid another 10-15 bucks for it to run Silent Hill and Resident Evil better. +--- 2563533 +CPS, RDAC, Tuner, RM, Linkplanner, Winbox, cnMaestro, Armada, PuTTY, Firefox, Word, Excel, Google Earth. +And Quickbooks. I like to get paid. +--- 2563537 +>>2563533 +You sound like overworked IT gizmo fag that goes car camping once a month in his mall crawler truck and while you camp all you do is watch Netflix downloaded to a tablet +--- 2563538 +>>2563537 +I don't watch movies, and my job is /out/side. +Also fuck infotech in general. + +Hope to do some more long-distance couple-days trips this summer. Burn some of the hotel points I've accumulated this winter. +--- 2563545 +>>2563028 (OP) +It can't be summer yet, it's too soon +--- 2563572 +>>2563538 +>hotels +Shirley, you can't be serious. +--- 2563657 +>>2563572 +>can't be serious +Endless hot water, free wifi, a real bed, and a restaurant on site? + +It's even better when I can bill the customer for it and mileage, then take the next day or two off to go ride the area, while staying at a hotel on points. +--- 2563752 +>>2563533 +whats the name of the device you are using. never seen such a small laptop +--- 2563806 +>>2563028 (OP) +have a free (You) +on me +--- 2563807 +>>2563752 +you got it wrong, that's just a big-ass nigga +--- 2563838 +>>2563538 +bro this looks like a fucking great way to live +--- 2563922 +>>2563028 (OP) +>>>/g/ +>>2563039 +fpbp +>>2563071 +5/10 +--- 2564100 +>>2563028 (OP) + +Not that there's any time when your camping to do anything, there's always a job to be done. That's why a love it it, if you do get a moment to relax your really relax properly. + +That said, one day I hope someone makes a VR dragon hunting game where there's a bunch of pokemon go style VR dragons rendered into the landscape and you go out hunting them and when you get to the location you put your VR headset on and it's animated a freaking dragon into the natural land scape. That'd be freaking awesome. +--- 2564115 +>>2564100 +>wants to turn /out/ into a vidya that requires a bunch of tech +I hope you fall into a pond and drown while hunting for a basedachu +--- 2564175 +Gameboy color + headlamp +Pac-man, missile command, r-type +--- 2564204 +>>2564100 +You can just leave food everywhere and find the bear dragon +--- 2564205 +>>2563028 (OP) +I don't have time to play games when I'm out +--- 2564219 +>>2564100 +lmfao imagine all the city retards with zero wilderness awareness that end up missing 411 cases trying to hunt rare dragons or whatever in the woods. +--- 2564463 +>>2563537 +Atleast he gets out. Unlike yourself. +--- 2565470 +>>2563028 (OP) +I ended up 'car camping' in my jeep a bunch of times. I'd drive out of town and find a wooded spot and sleep in the back, with the seats folded back you can just barely lay totally stretched out on a 3 inch foam matt and sleep well, and ended up doing this a dozen times before I started bringing my old 3ds and playing the old zelda's and mario's. shits cash. now when i go camping I always bring it just in case. Also, I sometimes take 3d pics of my dick jsut for fun +--- 2565634 +>>2563533 +What is that device? Why does it have a giant touch pad instead of a clit mouse? +--- 2565812 +>>2565634 +>giant touch pad +anon, nothing about this computer is "giant". Does have full-size ports though (USB, HDMI, Ethernet, RS232, headset) which is nice. None of the bullshit dongles like the ultralight laptops or tablets have. + +But, carrying that plus all my climbing gear and tools up 20 flights of stairs to the roof because of some bullshit elevator problem, I'm glad to have something that's 1/4 the size/weight of my real laptop. +--- 2565839 +>>2563028 (OP) +>taking video games outside +no thanks +what if I get them dirty +--- 2565846 +>>2565812 +You should still see if they make something with a clit mouse. They're the best, and your keyboard could be that much larger +--- 2565855 +>>2565846 +>clit mouse +nah. I have one on my dell, and disabled it. Don't care for it. +Another tech I work with swears by them, to the point where he disables his trackpad. I can't use his computer. diff --git a/out/2563136.txt b/out/2563136.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4ac36dee0800fde676dcc50245be02e879fa7dfd --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2563136.txt @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@ +----- +--- 2563136 +I found this weird stuff written on a rock near the summit of a hill when I was out hiking recently. + +I'm convinced it's a larp, but I'm pretty curious since I've never seen something like this before ; I walk this specific route often, the nearest town is 6miles away and there are no roads within a 4 mile radius, just for ref. + +I hike almost every second week, sometimes even three times a month. I was under the impression this kind of stuff was exclusive to video games. + + If any anons have seen similar things whilst out in nature (idk, strange writing in general, or any fonts similar to the one in pic rel) please do share your experiences. + +If this thread gains some traction, I'll give more details. I eventually want to translate this stuff, any help would be appreciated +--- 2563144 +>>2563136 (OP) +I've never seen anything like this /out/ but the symbols themselves look kinda Greek-ish. I only know the Greek alphabet from studying math, though. + +The tilde at the beginning of the second row is sometimes used as a negation operator. The third symbol on the bottom row looks like a half-arrow, which might mean "material conditional without logical entailment" but that's not a standard usage or anything, just the only obvious meaning I can come up with. + +Consider posting to /sci/ and letting those mathfag more schizo than I take a run at it. +--- 2563169 +>>2563144 +I see what you mean. +I'll look into what you've said, I'll also ask the /sci anons. +Thank you +--- 2565730 +>>2563144 +This ain't greek. Where you found it? +--- 2565746 +>>2563136 (OP) +Its literal graffiti + +Some dumb faggots pathetic replacement cipher +Probably some 12 year old fag +--- 2565859 +>>2565746 +this, sorry OP, this isn't your magic ticket to Hogwarts. +--- 2565874 +Closest thing that comes to mind is Inuit/aboriginal language +--- 2565879 +>>2563136 (OP) +it's almost certainly a simple substitution code, the symbol on the tailing ends of the first two lines is probably an 'e' +I'll let someone with autism try to figure out the rest +--- 2565892 +>>2565879 +After spending way too much time following this line of thinking, I can confirm the message reads "Inlands and bipeds...sbeds... Racial" +No need to thank me +--- 2565899 +that's the ancient tomb of ubuntu, or as I've taken to calling it lately, tomb + ubuntu +--- 2565928 +Try to ask on /x/ there is at least one crackhead un the know there +--- 2567910 +>>2563136 (OP) +Ge'ez +--- 2567963 +>>2565874 +Often times you can use statistics to break simple substitution ciphers. +Certain letters appear more often than others in the English language. diff --git a/out/2563377.txt b/out/2563377.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..28e5d3620da7ef86bb268bb00e8aeee693c3fb70 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2563377.txt @@ -0,0 +1,279 @@ +----- +--- 2563377 +What states have you visited? Layovers don’t count. + +https://www.amcharts.com/visited_states +--- 2563385 +Ill participate in your datamining thread. Most of this was for hiking or family. Except Florida, going there was a mistake. +--- 2563386 +>>2563377 (OP) +>WA +>CA +>not oregon +thank you, a rare based Californian. =P +--- 2563391 +>>2563385 +What was your favorite east coast hiking state? I’ve always wanted to check out Maine. New Hampshire was my favorite with Virginia/West Virginia tied for second. +>>2563386 +I’m actually going to Oregon for the first time ever this year but it’s for a wedding so I don’t think I’ll be able to do any backpacking unfortunately. Hoping I can still do some day hikes though. +--- 2563399 +>>2563391 +Vermont because its way more isolated than most people think. The hiking culture there is top notch, the weather is brutal and also enchanting, and the lack of actual overlooks and views keeps a lot of normies away as long as you are not on the AT. Western Maine is a close second but I hate coastal Maine and the County. +--- 2563410 +>>2563377 (OP) +Not impressed with the west +--- 2563411 +>>2563385 +>Except Florida, going there was a mistake. +Let your family know too. We're full of Yankee shit already.. +--- 2563413 +>>2563410 +Where’d you go? Arizona and Washington have some of my favorite National Forests. Utah is also amazing IMO as long as you avoid the crowds but Zion NP has unfortunately been ruined by the throngs of retards carving their names on the arches and throwing their trash on the trails. +--- 2563414 +>>2563413 +Zion wasn't even that cool... Also people never tell you to go to Utah during spring (you should if you enjoy the color green) + +Spring advice goes for any high desert states too... +--- 2563416 +>>2563414 +I will say that when I went backpacking in Arizona it was in spring and the weather was immaculate plus the crowds were pretty small. I generally prefer National Forests to Parks because they’re free, no camping permit required, little to no “developed” campsites which keeps the obnoxious car campers away and they’re usually bigger than National Parks. +--- 2563418 +>>2563413 +I went from Vegas to the Grand Canyon with a stop at Hoover Dam. California was the Pacific Ocean and a hike to the Hollywood Sign. The only redeemable part was the coast. The rest of the west is very blah to me. Utah looks interesting but I can see canyons and natural arches in the Red without flying all the way across the country. +--- 2563444 +>>2563377 (OP) +do states i drove through on road trips count or nah? +>>2563399 +p much the whitest area left in the country too +--- 2563456 +I've been to all of them except North Dakota and Alaska. I've been /out/ in maybe a third though. +--- 2563494 +Planning on crossing the border soon bros. Wish me luck. Don't worry I won't stay. I'll be taking the CDT into Canada. +--- 2563498 +I want to go to alaska sometime soon +--- 2563518 +I have never left, and I have no desire to leave. +--- 2563519 +>>2563518 +based +--- 2563534 +>>2563377 (OP) +>https://www.amcharts.com/visited_states +--- 2563575 +>visited +wrong board retard >>>/trv/ + +Here's the /out/ version +--- 2563618 +I just kind of drove through the middle parts and the northeast. Rectifying that soon. +--- 2563620 +>>2563528 +very based +--- 2563634 +Planning on going to Vermont this summer. Exciting I know. +--- 2563635 +>>2563518 +Based southern anon +--- 2563636 +>>2563498 +Same. It’s been a dream of mine since I was 10. Hoping to go to Alaska within the next 3-5 years. +--- 2563641 +>>2563634 +Vermont rules, take advantage of the cheese fridge +--- 2563643 +I've got to do more W of the Mississippi +--- 2563680 +How have none of you been to Alaska? +--- 2563683 +>>2563680 +i ain't flyin commercial and i'll be damned before i go drivin through syrup nigger country +--- 2563728 +>>2563487 +Sales? +--- 2563729 +>>2563728 +naw just family spread out north and west from me +lived in southwest for some years and visit family up in the midwest occasionally +--- 2563750 +>>2563377 (OP) +Arizona only. Not from the USA either. Think the only other state I want to visit is Utah honestly, to see Zion +--- 2563754 +Not american but I need to see the North West, seen enough desert shit but that is where work takes me +--- 2563773 +>>2563575 +>here's the /out/ version +>hiking and "overnighting" are the only activities +--- 2563862 +>>2563750 +That's fine, and the mountains might not do much for you if you're from a mountainous area yourself. I recommend Washington state, though. Specifically the olympic peninsula +--- 2563905 +>>2563518 +WAY DOWN SOUTH IN THE LAND OF COTTON +OLD TIMES THERE ARE NOT FORGOTTEN +LOOK AWAY +LOOK AWAY +LOOK AWAY +DIXIELAND +--- 2563911 +>>2563862 +Olympic penn certainly is the most bang for ypur buck in washington. +--- 2564004 +>>2563911 +Its not +you're a lying piece of shit +Delete this +also: fuckoff were full +--- 2564335 +>>2563377 (OP) +>>>/trv/ +--- 2564457 +>>2564335 +>>2563575 +Why do faggots like this come to a perfectly good /out/ related thread and try to derail it by throwing an autistic fit? How has the discussion in this thread not been /out/ related? +--- 2564540 +>>2563911 +In terms of cost of living? +--- 2564576 +I'd have thought AK would have been on more people's /out/ bucket lists +--- 2564582 +>>2564576 +Did you fly into Canada to go to... Alaska? +--- 2564597 +>>2564576 +It’s definitely on my bucket list but I live on the east coast so just getting there is pretty expensive and time consuming +--- 2564612 +>>2564576 +Been invited for the last 6 or so years. +The logistics of getting a trailer full of snowmobiles there is the challenge. + +>pic kinda related +--- 2564615 +>>2564540 +That's probably the Tri-Cities, but that's mostly because it sucks ass and not many are willing to live there. +--- 2564617 +>>2563518 +That's convenient because the rest of the country wants your fat, dumb ass to stay there too. +--- 2564649 +Texas soon +--- 2564717 +Would like to go to upstate NY, and then back to Washington, Tennessee, and North Carolina. I don't think I'm really antsy to visit any more states besides Idaho, Montana, and Vermont during the fall. +--- 2564838 +>>2564717 +>Would like to go to upstate NY +You're welcome to come as long as you don't go during late-September thru October because we're unironically full then. Stay the fuck out then, k? +--- 2564934 +>>2564457 +Because not everyone is a fatfuck amerilard +--- 2564941 +26 years old this thing should include Puerto Rico and the virgin Islands too +--- 2564956 +>>2563377 (OP) +All of them, and about four dozen foreign countries. +--- 2564980 +>>2563377 (OP) +Only counting states where I've left the airport, layovers definitely don't count. +I travel for work, previously to places mostly in major cities, but now more to flyover country. +--- 2565028 +>>2563377 (OP) +Technically I've been to every state except Alaska and Hawaii. These are the ones that I have memories of that don't involve bus/train layovers or driving through. +Minnesota and Wisconsin are next. Lake Superior is the only Great Lake that I haven't visited and that will be changing soon. +--- 2565031 +>>2563377 (OP) +Im a wisconsinite +--- 2565051 +The only state I´ve ever been in is depression. +--- 2565052 +>>2563385 +>Except Florida, going there was a mistake. +Absolutely based. Only been there once, absolutely hated it. +--- 2565135 +Victoria, new south wales, queensland +--- 2565160 +>>2563905 +> LOOK AWAY +LOOK AWAY +LOOK AWAY + +YOU STUPID YANK +--- 2565207 +>>2564941 +stop anon. your trust fund is showing. +--- 2565221 +America is an wild, exotic country + +t. Canadian dourist :DD +--- 2565274 +Canadian roadtripper. I'd say the southwest is the best >>2563416 When to CO/UT/AK in may/june last year and it was better than sept/oct just for the green and wildlife. Skipped Zion this time since half the park was closed and had a reservation list. Pleasant surprises at Great Bassin and Dinosaur NP. I confirm that National forest/grassland in these states are as much fun if you're prepared. Some nice spots in SC/NC as well. +--- 2565286 +>>2563377 (OP) +--- 2565408 +>>2563680 +Rare north Dakota and alaska +--- 2565410 +>>2565052 +So many people love that place. What did you not like about it? Are you a cold weather guy +--- 2565412 +>>2565221 +>went to the biggest shithole states in the US +why +--- 2565414 +>>2565221 +If you wanted to go to all the places with the largest populations you shouldve went to NYC too +--- 2565420 +>>2563377 (OP) +Ive visited all the ones that are worth visiting...excluding Oregon, Washington, ohio, Indiana, Illinois and Michigan. We should exterminate every one from there and living there. +--- 2565421 +>>2565420 +Fuck, forgot pic +--- 2565423 +>>2564833 +--- 2565628 +>>2563377 (OP) +Kinda weird that I haven't bothered to visit new Mexico. But I've been to old Mexico quite a bit. I've also been to most EU nations +--- 2565629 +>>2564833 +Kek +--- 2565630 +>>2563414 +>Also people never tell you to go to Utah during spring +That's because you retards don't understand flash floods, and it takes forever to find your bodies +--- 2565689 +>>2565421 +midwestern lumpenprole +--- 2565691 +>>2563399 +who doesn't think vermont is isolated? +--- 2565697 +>>2564833 +>mimaled.com +Virginias no more. +--- 2565715 +I want to see the midwest. +--- 2565736 +>>2565715 +You've already seen the good part of it (Great Lakes) +--- 2565751 +fuck the eastern seaboard +--- 2565752 +>>2565221 +He didn't go to Alabama, Mississippi or Louisiana +--- 2566034 +>>2563377 (OP) +good thread +--- 2566130 +;_; +--- 2566142 +pain and suffering +I've left my 20 square mile home area only a handful of times in my life +--- 2566216 +>>2566142 +At least you live in a scenic part of the country. Imagine living in flyover country and never traveling. Now that would be a shit life. +--- 2566283 +>>2566216 +nah im in southern Idaho/northern nevada area. Nothing scenic here haha. Closeby though yeah +--- 2566425 +>>2563377 (OP) +I travel by motorcycle and avoid the midwest like the plague +--- 2566477 +>>2566425 +black hills and glass mountains in oklahoma are a fun ride, just my personal experience. only midwest state worth a stop. diff --git a/out/2563503.txt b/out/2563503.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7be64b8fa31bb753f722598189ecf4aee9798bb8 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2563503.txt @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@ +----- +--- 2563503 +post cool shots you've got recently +you'll probably have to convert to gif or webm, and severely compress to be able to post though +--- 2563526 +Piggy backing this thread. +I'm thinking about getting a gopro, and have some questions about their functionality. Do they take quality pictures? How long would a battery last if not being used for video? Are they feasible for 2 week stretches without access to the grid? +--- 2563530 +>>2563526 +I just bought a GoPro Hero 10 and the battery drains pretty fast, even if it's just turned on, but at the same time if you're just taking landscape photos you don't need to walk around with the camera on.. I think you'll want an extra battery or two for a 2-week trip though. I'm brand new to video and photo so I can't speak for quality of photos +--- 2563532 +>>2563526 +Don't expect the GoPro to be anything more then an action camera. + +Newer ones are better about photos. God even my 8 takes trashy photos...but the newer ones and including my 8. Over heat way to much.. my shit will just shut down from heat just from sitting in traffic for 5 minutes in Florida... I arguably have the worst one..(can't change the lense out) but have used it for 3 years now.. same four batteries. And high quality 32gb memory stick. + +If you have the top 2 smart phones. Your phone probably takes better photos- and possibly better tripod video than a GoPro. + +There's like no good bridge filled for point and shoot style rugged cameras that shoot a high quality photo/video. And most manufacturers have abandoned the point and shoot market. Because they got out paced by smartphones. + +If anyone knows a good rugged DSLR/mirrorless that can survive a ton of vibrations and bouncing around I'm all ears.... (Real vibrations too, not just being in a pack) + +>>2563503 (OP) +This thread is stupid. I cannot get a 15 second video compressed down enough to meet the 4 MB requirements of webmS....... +--- 2563535 +I need to get a new one. +My old Contour kicked the bucket a few years ago, never replaced it. I loved the design of it, low profile and dead simple to use, but parts/accessories are impossible to find now. Hate how blocky/teletubby the gopros are. +--- 2563598 +>>2563526 +I have a 10 Black +One pic I took with it says 23mp, 5568 x 4176, 11mb for whatever that's worth +Way better than my phone, probably not as good as dslr +Battery goes down 1-2% just by turning it on, taking pic, and shutting off +You can also mess with settings to get more/less quality/battery life +Batteries and power banks are pretty cheap too if you're serious about it +--- 2564083 +>>2563530 +make sure to turn off the wifi in the settings which stays on by default, but even then that shit drains incredibly fast +--- 2564781 +>>2563532 +Just share via gopro link + +https://gopro.com/v/B2WlyryV5p9kW +--- 2567391 +>>2564781 +bump diff --git a/out/2563515.txt b/out/2563515.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1cce9edc816163d0ed6b48a0265af6a066f1588b --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2563515.txt @@ -0,0 +1,249 @@ +----- +--- 2563515 +I am a NEET who thought about living in the woods in a tent. how fucked am i? + +will i die like alexander supertramp? + +i have like 2000 dollars to buy gear and supplies +--- 2563520 +>>2563515 (OP) +You're fucked, retarded, and will die. Also kill all homeless. +--- 2563522 +>>2563515 (OP) +Do it but learn enough to make sure that you have a good chance of not dying. Even dying in the woods I'd preferable to kike society. +>>2563520 +Kys wagie +--- 2563540 +>>2563520 +You really think you're being edgy huh? + +Instead of projecting your self harm fetishes onto others. Just fucking off yourself already anon. There's no point. Your will to live is the only reason your alive. Go ahead and overcome it. +--- 2563542 +>>2563515 (OP) +for $2000 you can get a nice kit. if you stayed near the west coast or below the mason-dixon line you can easily live outdoors year round. food is always the big problem, i doubt you have ever been truly starving and how awful it makes you feel. unless you are raiding dumpsters or stealing how are you going to feed yourself? +--- 2563553 +>>2563542 + +food banks +expired food from jumpsters +begging(this would be last resort) +free samples +finding money on the ground near phonebooths + +i practice 24 hour fasts on a regular basis +--- 2563563 +>>2563515 (OP) +Hey friend. I used to be NEET for 3-4 years. Had same vague aspirations as you to go 'live in the woods'. I'm now homesteading and raising livestock/poultry as well as agriculture. Did have to work for it, am still working here and there but am transitioning to living from farming. I never went the nomadic route but I do love roughing it in the mountains for days on end and I love the natural world as much as anyone. I've still got it in the back of my head to strike out McCandless style one day but for now I've got obligations here. I enjoy working on my farm, I know what it feels like to never think you'll be able to work but 'waging' in the typical McDonald's fry cook or Walmart stocker is not all there is to do and there is dignified work that is paid in an hourly wage, stuff that pays well too like manual labor. It's a means to and end and you won't have to do it for too long if you can live frugally and make smart decisions. +You can be able to work, a person has a natural need to exert themselves toward things and you will find out if you go out in the wilderness McCandless style that you just landed in a full time mandatory overtime job, a great and fulfilling one if you know what you are doing and can take care of yourself. Old man told me once that work is just a four letter word. Humans 'work' to survive in the wild, it is the conditions of modern work that make it so our brains don't fully compute it with total fulfillment the way a wild man is totally fulfilled by his work. However, you can still be better off psychologically working a job with a goal in mind. +All that being said, I don't know you and maybe you do have the skills to do this. Knowing what most NEETs are like though it's not likely so I'm assuming not. If you don't, then at least practice them for a couple months and see how long you can realistically feed yourself first with 1 or 2 days then more and more. Godspeed +--- 2563584 +>>2563553 +>phone booths +What year is this? +--- 2563586 +>>2563515 (OP) +buy land + +find a way to get water to drink and wash + +plant potatoes and raise chickens + +sleep in a tent + +start from there and build up Idk + +probably completely fucked if you don't even have a place to sleep and wash and a way to eat for a while +--- 2563623 +>>2563584 + +where people take out money from their pockets. that's what i mean. they usually drop money +--- 2563625 +>>2563623 +>the streets are littered with cash +--- 2563678 +>>2563623 +>they usually drop money +Stay away from bears and wolves, they will use your naivity against you very effectively. +--- 2563720 +>>2563515 (OP) +--- 2563734 +>>2563515 (OP) +I don't think you'll die like him because he lived in a bus and you'll be inatent +--- 2563846 +>>2563515 (OP) +There's a film about this called "Leave no Trace". + +The times I've tried to camp on the edge of towns and cities have been full of paranoia and sleepless nights. Better to read some self help books like think and grow rich, then go after your dreams instead of trying to barely exist as an outcast wasting your life. +--- 2563863 +>>2563515 (OP) +youd be better off killing yourself and donating the money +--- 2564039 +>>2563515 (OP) +This is my first time visiting this board, and this was exactly the reason why I came here. I have around 2.2k in cash, and I am trying to gather as much information as possible on what I need to survive a 3-month trip in the wilderness. During the first few weeks, I could probably survive on spam while I learn to catch food. I have never fished in my life, but I should have some luck with a net instead of a fishing pole. If I have a reliable way of starting a fire, I guess I can just boil my drinking water. I'll buy a tent and a sleeping bag for the warmth and when may starts rolling in it should only get easier. If all fails and i end up breaking a foot in the middle of the jungle I still have a poison pill with me. +--- 2564043 +>>2564039 +>During the first few weeks, I could probably survive on spam while I learn to catch food. +There’s a lot wrong with this sentence, ignorant even. If you wanna kill yourself there’s faster ways to do it. +--- 2564046 +>>2563520 +>will die +Been out here 7 years thanks to crypto. Say that to my face wagie +--- 2564049 +>>2563553 +Nevermind yeah this guy is fucked kek +--- 2564059 +>>2564043 +The plan was to overdose in some far-out forest anyway, but I'm fit and healthy, so why not try at least? I have the whole of the EU to choose a nice forest with a running river and a nice distance between the trees. The hardest part might actually be not getting caught by the authorities in three months' time. +--- 2564092 +>>2563515 (OP) +>I don’t have a plan +This is why you’ll fail. +--- 2564670 +>>2563623 + +100% this guy is dead on week 1 +--- 2564759 +I'd buy a horse and a bedroll and ride through the plains. I'd do that cause I'm not gay. +--- 2565121 +>>2564046 +Nice. Where you at? What do you do for food / money? +--- 2565125 +>>2564059 +> I have the whole of the EU to choose +Maybe the eastern parts at best, yet... +--- 2565126 +>>2564039 +Don't be surprised, this is literally the first question every newfag asks. Every Single Week +--- 2565150 +>>2564039 +>wilderness +Please define “wilderness.” How far from civilization will you be? How do you realistically plan on getting there? +>spam for a few weeks +There are much better options. +>never fished, but I can +Lol +>boil drinking water +There are much better options, specifically filters or chemicals. +>May is easier +Spring has warmer temps but some pretty gnarly storms. + +I like these running away from home posts but they never seem to have the ability to plan anything, nor have they done much research. +--- 2565175 +>>2564039 +>I could probably survive on spam while I learn to catch food. I have never fished in my life, but I should have some luck with a net instead of a fishing pole. +top kek. You're at the stage now where you don't know what you don't know. If you attempt it now you will surely perish. +--- 2565177 +I need to practice making fire without tools. +Should be downhill from there. +--- 2565178 +>>2565150 +>>never fished, but I can +>Lol +Fishing isn't that hard, and im sorry that you feel the need to validate spending $6,589 on gear that realistically is no better than something you can buy for $100-$200. +--- 2565206 +>>2565178 +Fishing is very hard if you're starting from a point of zero knowledge. +--- 2565405 +>>2565121 +Larp on 4chan +--- 2565422 +>>2563540 +silence, demon +--- 2565778 +>>2565422 +Well, the rope escape is probably closer to your values than what's coming for you, +the pending pendulum back swing against tolerating the mentally ill is going to coincide with the emergence of technology allowing objective tests for mental illness, and we all know as soon they put that helmet on your head it's going to show them your not so hidden turd brain, then off to the bughouse with you, and you aren't getting out till they fix you, one way or another. +--- 2565819 +>>2565178 +Fishing takes some time to learn if you've never done it before. +Tying knots can be a bitch, no bites can be frustrating, & finding good locations takes a lot of trial and error. +--- 2565823 +>>2565150 +They’re the confluence of naïveté, nihilism, and hubris. + +3 months in decent weather? Sure . Long term without a bankroll? NFC. + +There’s a reason homeless people suffer in cities vs striking out into the woods. +--- 2565825 +>>2565823 +>There’s a reason homeless people suffer in cities vs striking out into the woods. +there arent crack dealers in the middle of the woods +--- 2565829 +>>2565825 +True, that’s some of them. +--- 2566684 +>>2563515 (OP) +--- 2566908 +>>2563520 +>Also kill all homeless. +if true I'm including those who dont have legal ownership as well +--- 2566910 +>>2563542 +>how are you going to feed yourself? +welcome to the edible pine tree timeline anons +--- 2566914 +>>2563515 (OP) +Anon atleast get a job and save up for a year to buy an acre with a pretty rural area in Utah or something with a few more supplies. Tents get damaged incredibly easy and you dont want to hit a rough patch while in the dead of winter +--- 2566927 +>>2566910 +Remember that guy from alone Mongolia who ate so much xylem that they had to air vac him to China for bowel surgery? +--- 2566932 +>>2566910 +based woodeater +--- 2566949 +>>2563625 +I found a twenty on the ground like a week ago. a few months back, I myself lost about that much too. +its not repeatable necessarily, but you could probably find a pretty penny on occasion. +--- 2566976 +>chris mccandless +>cautionary tale of a romanticized moron +>people genuinely think this is a viable option +Darwin would be making field notes +--- 2566978 +>>2563586 +>2k for supplies +>buy land +--- 2566988 +>>2566978 +any retard can spare money living with parents and doing 2 months of work lol + +no one is dumb enough to start anythign with 2k lol +--- 2566992 +>>2566976 +chris knight did it for 20 years before he got caught for breaking in to people's homes +--- 2566996 +>>2566976 +The gradual schizofication of a person that kept wanting to struggle more and more to survive is not what someone who wants to live offgrid wants, people here want to basically camp outside of a city not go to Alaska unprepared and wing it +--- 2567000 +>>2563515 (OP) +You'll probably die during the winter unless you're already an expert survivalist. +There's a big difference between surviving innawoods in summer vs in winter. +In summer there's mostly minor annoyances like bugs to worry about. In winter it's low temperatures, shit weather and no game. Good luck. +--- 2567002 +>>2567000 +This, anon needs to save up and get an actual job for a while to atleast get an RV. In my rural town in Utah we get alot of the off grid types basically live/park in Walmart parking lots because they cant survive the winter outside of civilization +--- 2567009 +>>2566996 +>not go to Alaska unprepared and wing it +Yet here we are +--- 2567214 +>>2563515 (OP) +>NEET +yes, you will die a painful, embarrassing death. +Work outdoors, earn an income, build skills until you're competent + +Also, you didn't even mention hobopunk/EBTpunk/bennymaxxing. The average bum in Santa Monica or Seattle gets ~$700 month + medicaid + EBT +--- 2567325 +>>2563515 (OP) +I would suggest don't do it. You probably can't handle it. I'm and passionate outdoors and I still return to society. +--- 2567537 +>>2566910 +You can also chew fresh pine resin as chewing gum +--- 2568474 +ForestAnon did it, look up his youtube channel. He survives mainly on flour, pine stuff, homemade booze, and noodles that he buys with thr small jons on farms he does from time to time. Everyone here knows that guy +--- 2568503 +>>2563520 +I would kill you before you could ever enact this idea. +--- 2568507 +>>2568503 +Proof that homeless people are murderers. diff --git a/out/2563558.txt b/out/2563558.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..92cca29acf826cdd9b6cbb0edeb88ddb02838470 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2563558.txt @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +----- +--- 2563558 +What’s the longest roadtrip you’ve done so far? I’m thinking of an 8 hour drive from where I am just to tour the White Mountains in New Hampshire. Also any good hiking suggestions for this area? I’ve already been to the Adirondacks and Smokies. +--- 2563565 +>>2563558 (OP) +me and my dad used to go on yearly fishing trips with our boat in tow and the drive took 11-13 hours +then fishing trawlers came there and netted all the vendace so the whole big lake basically died in few years so no more trips +there were so many trawlers some people even killed themselves because there was nothing left for them and all their debt + +i would have loved to take my friends there even once when the fishing was still good +--- 2563576 +>>2563558 (OP) +>the White Mountains +see picrel + +>8 hours away +>I’ve already been to the Adirondacks and Smokies. +Please stay in new jersey +--- 2563596 +>>2563558 (OP) +Maryland to Oregon +--- 2563603 +>>2563558 (OP) +8-9 hours maybe, i also hate driving or sitting in a vehicle for any length of time +--- 2563614 +>>2563576 +Nah, it’s boring as hell here and the people are mostly shit. I’m moving out of this gay state soon. +--- 2563638 +18 hours, probably a little more from Colorado mountains to Chicago This was after camping trip went sour and we needed to head home as fast as possible. I wouldn't do that again. +But Chicago to Denver was like 16 or something and that was tolerable with stops and breaks. +--- 2563639 +>>2563558 (OP) +I drove from Pennsylvania to Fort Ticonderoga in New York. Drove 9 1/2 hours in 1 day but the fort was very beautiful. Definitely worth the trip. +--- 2563640 +>>2563558 (OP) +Based anon. Planning on going to the Green Mountains this summer but I might hit white mountains for fall. +--- 2563753 +>>2563558 (OP) +drove from Ireland to Tangiers through France and Spain. it took around 40 hours. Had my ex girl with me, it was good +--- 2563755 +>>2563558 (OP) +12 hours straight overnight in my 2005 Toyota Rav4 from San Diego to Salt Lake City to go snowboarding in park city. +Was in the northwest corner on Arizona at dawn so I was driving through canyons while the entire sky was pink and red +--- 2563906 +Las Vegas to Seattle, 20 hour trip +Was about to fly home from working a convention and our flights got cancelled. Would either need to spend 3 days there or bite the bullet and take turns driving +--- 2563920 +I live in a land locked town in Southeast Alaska, can't drive in or out. I drive to the end of our road then turn around and come back. +--- 2563957 +I’ve driven across the US multiple times since I was 18. +--- 2563964 +>>2563957 +Give us stories anon don’t be coy +--- 2563968 +>>2563964 +>drove across the US +>it was bussin, no cap +>sometimes it's mid +--- 2563986 +>>2563558 (OP) +750 miles last spring is the longest I've driven each way. +I've never hiked in the NH mountains but went to Glen Ellis Falls which was nice. +--- 2564025 +Depends on how long you’ll be there. I would recommend trying the presidential traverse for any experienced backpacker. Once you get above the tree line shit is like New Zealand +--- 2564033 +I do several 20+ hour drives each year to get to different sailboat races. For other out activities usually 3-5 hours is my limit for a weekend trip with 8-12 hours being worth it if I get 3-4 days of activity. In my mind I try to keep a 2:1 ratio of activity to driving if that makes sense. It also helps to see the driving as part of the marathon and not a separate thing that gets you to/from the place you're going. For those sailboat events it really sucks if you finish the last race and your mind goes into "done" mode, gotta keep it in a we still got journey to go otherwise the drive really sucks. +--- 2564034 +>>2563558 (OP) +spent about a year and a half driving back and forth from the south and the southwest, got used to doing a 17 hour drive in one stretch +leaving in the morning in shitass humidity and then be evening being in arid desert and the next morning desert mountains is breddy grade +--- 2564047 +>>2563920 +i used to live in petersburg, still got quite a few family members there. +--- 2564162 +>>2563964 +This >>2563968 unironically. +--- 2564411 +>>2563558 (OP) +"whats the longest road trip done so far?" +Lol-- in a single burst? like not touching a destination? round trip? longest time "on the road" was last year. 25,000 miles - or 40,000 KM. not a trucker either. all done on 2 wheels. 2 sets of tires- 2 chains, 2 sets of brake pads. 2 clutch levers, 3 clutch cables [couldnt get the right lever, the lever perch kept destroying clutch cables] 5 oil changes with filter. idk how much in gas... lol I was getting about 43MPG average. average speed a comfy 75mph. + +It's funny when I talk about driving 8 hours like it is nothing.. because I often do 8 hour days. People complain about driving 3 hours and for me it's like just another day. some shit is pretty boring NGL. just think i10 through west texas... LOL I'm getting ready to do some crazy rides one day.. I wanna do Mexico- to Argentina. North Africa- to the horn of Africa. Full loop around Australia.. probably my top 3 big trips that I'm pretty ready for after all these years and MANY miles under my belt. + +But im no trust fund kid- and that shits $$$ no matter if you're sleeping in the dirt or not. +--- 2564413 +2564411 +typical cyclist sperg lol +--- 2564455 +>>2564411 +>North Africa- to the horn of Africa. +Good luck driving through a giant content on mud roads with 75 IQ niggers who don't know how to drive +--- 2564651 +From 2008-2015 I roadtripped around the US/CAN every summer for 2-6 weeks. +--- 2564664 +>>2564455 +Have you been to Mississippi or North florida? +--- 2564880 +>>2564664 +At leas the highways are paved +--- 2565302 +>>2563558 (OP) +26 hours. up and down scandinavia +--- 2567846 +Did about 4800km in Australia over a month. Wouldn't mind doing the whole lap around the place one day. Think that's something more like 15,000. Hardly got off the east coast really. Went from adelaide up to the murray river and along that, through the snowies then up the coast to daintree. Neat to go through so many different climates and saw a lot of cool spots +--- 2567851 +I did NC to CO on a motorcycle with no headphones or gps +~35 hours in 5 days +Wrote the directions on my arm with a pen +--- 2567931 +>>2563558 (OP) +I recently did a month long road trip through Chilean and Argentinean Patagonia. From Puerto Montt all the way down to Ushuaia and back up. diff --git a/out/2563637.txt b/out/2563637.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b90a63af7fea075f75b34073cb5a43d77e2fbe63 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2563637.txt @@ -0,0 +1,304 @@ +----- +--- 2563637 +I’m starting the Appalachian trail in May, I have a job and a career going so I am not doing a thru hike. I will be doing a 2 week long section to start with, and probably more similarly long sections in the future until I finish. I hope to make it into North Carolina at the very very least, which is very doable as I’m young and strong. I believe it is only 70-80 miles to the border on trail. + +What should I pack as far as food? I think I might only pack for breakfast/lunch, dinner is nice but I dont need to carry the extra weight so I will have sleep for dinner. + +Should I just go for maximum calorie density like picrel? I will only be on trial 2 weeks so protein or vitamin deficiencies arent a huge worry to me. I have heard I can mail a package somewhere to resupply with further down the trail, how can I find info on how /where to do this? I might pack food for one week, resupply, and then hike until I run out of food. + + I do not have any specific set distance in mind, my goal is to go as far as my feet will carry me in 2 weeks without hurting myself. +--- 2563645 +>>2563637 (OP) +What is the longest backpacking camping trip you've done? +--- 2563647 +>>2563645 +9 days +--- 2563652 +>>2563647 +If that's the case, you shouldn't of made this thread. +--- 2563659 +>>2563652 +>you haven't done the thing before, so you shouldn't talk about doing the thing +What a miserable creature you are +--- 2563662 +>>2563652 +Fuck off + +I’m trying to be as weight efficient as practical, when I did the 9 day trip I was fairly light weight but I feel like I could have done much better. + +Should I leave my stove at home and only take meals that I can eat cold? I have a water filter so I don’t NEED to boil water, but I have both filtered and boiled in my past experiences due to the water in my area being nasty. +--- 2563663 +>>2563659 +>needing to be spoon fed when supposedly you have the experience. +You're a larping faggot and your post clearly shows it. If you been on a 9 day, you would've gave examples of shit you have eaten in the past trips, what you like and dislike. Not sorry for being a "miserable creature" for calling out your lying ass. +--- 2563664 +>>2563662 +Lol, see this>>2563663 faggot. +--- 2563667 +>>2563664 +Damn, you really caught me, I was trying to lie about camping for not even a week and a half on an anonymous anime image board, and you caught me red handed +--- 2563671 +>>2563663 +--- 2563672 +>>2563667 +I’m glad there are people like him to call “people” like you out + +At any rate… +Ramen noodles are light weight and high in carbs, you are right that you won’t be out there long enough to warrant needing much else but pure carbs + +You can eat them dry and uncooked but they are obvious best cooked which requires water, so you make the choice on if you need the stove or not. I would say if you get picrel or similar, you will be fine. You will be dying for a hot meal by the end but there are a few towns you can stop and get some nice hot goyslop at along the way anyways +--- 2563675 +>>2563663 +--- 2563695 +>>2563663 +>If people don't say exactly what I want in their post then they haven't done the thing +>everyone in the thread is the same person +Do you feel a sense of purpose trying to gatekeep the outdoors? Do you look at yourself in your mom's bathroom mirror every morning and say "yeah, today's the day I keep someone from enjoying the outside"? +--- 2563700 +>>2563671 +>>2563675 +>>2563695 +The fact that you keep samefagging him kind of proves his point, seems like he touched a nerve with you. Feel free to samefag me with discord memes as well if it makes you feel better. +--- 2563702 +>>2563637 (OP) +Can't go wrong with a bunch of Government Cheese. +--- 2563705 +>>2563700 +Me in this thread arguing with myself (Only I have posted here) +--- 2563709 +>>2563700 +Anon, I have bad news for you +--- 2563710 +>>2563637 (OP) +Emergency rations are for emergencies, you should never actually eat those things unless its a life or death situation. Bring oats, meat, and coffee. +--- 2563711 +>>2563710 +>>2563672 +Thanks for the actual advice +>>2563702 +You too +--- 2563730 +It honestly depends if you are ok with having to cook often. The simplest/ cheapest would either be ramen like the other annon said or get a bag of rice and bring seasons with you. Preferably at least two different types like a yellow rice seasoning or desert rice. If you do have cash to spare you can just shill out for the freeze dried stuff they always sell at any sporting goods stores or mountain house. +--- 2563731 +>>2563637 (OP) +>should I skip meals +only if you're fat otherwise no +>two weeks section, what food +well... +>>2563647 +>I've been on a 9 days trip before +take the same stuff but add five more days worth of food +--- 2563735 +>>2563652 +You are a profoundly lame faggot +--- 2563757 +OP, don't forgo protein, you risk overuse injury if you do. Here's a few food items I like to take on longer trips: + +Breakfast: instant otmeal, dried fruit, full-fat milk powder, instant espresso + +Snacks: mixed nuts, dried fruit, M&M's, granola, fig newtons, dry-cured sausage + +Lunch: more snacks + +Dinner: trail jambalaya (orzo pasta with tomato soup powder, creole seasoning and summer sausage), chickpea or lentil soup (chickpea or lentil flour, chicken stock cube, seasonings, olive oil), loaded mashed potatoes (potato flakes, full-fat milk powder, dehydrated chives, shelf-stable bacon bits, cheddar powder), Knorr sides. +--- 2563798 +>>2563637 (OP) +>what food should I bring? Just calorie dense? +Yeah, kinda. Stick to at least 100 calories per ounce or greater. Food alone is a pretty big subject. + +>skip dinner +Terrible idea. Because of the nature of a long hike, you’ll be burning through a lot of calories. You’ll need time and food to recover. + +>what about this meme food? +Have you tried it? Would you really want to eat it for 9 days straight? It’s not survival, it’s a hike. Why punish yourself? Also, do you think you’ve somehow figured out a better way of doing things than thousands of people who came before you? Hikers generally heat up meals because it’s more enjoyable than eating a block of cardboard or a bowl of cold grey mush. + +>protein isn’t a worry for me +Well it should be. You need it for muscle recovery. It’s also much more satiating than carbs. Fiber can become a concern as well. + +>how do I into resupply? +Look for an Appalachian Trail guidebook or online guide. How and where you setup a resupply depends on where you are. Sometimes you can mail a package to a post office in a small town and they can hold it for 30 days, but you have to plan to be there at a certain time (small town post offices often have short hours, aren’t open on Sunday, might be several miles from the trail, etc.). Sometimes there’s a hostel you can send it to. Sometimes neither is a viable option but a grocery store is. Even with a location, you still have to figure out how to get there. + +>I don’t got no plan +Fucking make one, nigger. It’s free and your trip can be ruined without it. You’re going solo, possibly well after the crowd. Thru hikers move in a giant mass, and if someone needs general info they can just ask another hiker. You might not have that option, so a plan is a necessity. +--- 2563845 +>>2563637 (OP) + +Take gelatin powder as extra protein. +--- 2563961 +>>2563663 +ok gatekeeping faggot, you've dazzled us with your edge. now please fuck off. i'm monitoring this thread because op's question interests me and i'm looking forward to actual replies. +--- 2564023 +>>2563637 (OP) +If you plan on sending a resupply ahead of you, you can bring whatever. If you plan on heading to a grocery store in a town then you’re more limited, especially with dinners. It’s much more convenient to measure and prep at home. + +Here are some of the things I bring. I rarely bother to cook breakfast, never cook lunch, and always cook dinner. + + +>breakfast +Bagel with bacon and single serving Nutella packs +Hostess donuts (don’t hold up too well) +Instant grits +Instant oatmeal +Shelf stable bacon with pretty much anything +Cereal or granola bars + +>lunch +Tuna and crackers +Pepperoni, cheese, and crackers +Tortillas with just about anything (peanut butter and jelly is ok) + +>dinner +Skurka’s beans and rice (google the recipe) +Instant rice with dry sausage, tomato powder, a bullion cube, and Italian seasoning +Bear Creek cheese soup w/tuna +Just about any Knorr pasta side (look for ones that cook faster) with added tuna +Mashed potatoes with chives, cheese powder, and sausage on the side +Ramen if I’m lazy +Shrimp gumbo + +>snacks +Dried pineapple and coconut +Dried oranges +Snickers +Cliff bars like a normie +Fritos (they hold up really well) +Trail mix, again, like a normie +--- 2564174 +>>2563637 (OP) +>>2563647 +>9 days +take 9 days worth of food and bring a .22 rifle. Only eat that 9 days worth of food when you didnt find something to shoot. +--- 2564224 +>>2563705 +It's only us 2 and the IDF +--- 2564674 +>>2563961 +You're so butt blasted that it's not even funny. I bet you'd suck op off if he gave you chance. +--- 2564676 +>>2563637 (OP) +Since anons aren't answering +Pouched tuna +Rice +A stick of salami +Pouch of instant potatoes +Grits +Cornmeal +Honey +If coffee drinker, instant coffee and powdered creamer (can mix creamer into rice or grits or cornmeal +This should give you a start +--- 2565110 +>>2563637 (OP) + +https://youtu.be/ynCBp7CZaNQ [Embed] + +This guy has a mega chart of backpacking foods (free pdf in description) might give you ideas for balancing your deliciousness/weight/calorie density choices. Good luck on your trip. +--- 2565112 +>>2563637 (OP) +>>2563798 +This man fucks. OP if you're still around this guy knows what he's talking about. +>Don't skip a meal. +Plan to eat more often, but not necessarily more food. Trail mix might seem silly but even if you're just plopping your ass down and having a little water break, a handful of sugars and protein can help you soldier through hard spots later. Remember that hiking is a game of attrition, and it's dependent on your previous and current ability to contribute to your future ability. The protein is very important in keeping your muscles from damaging themselves and the day after a hike hurts a hell of a lot less with protein in your meals. The fiber should also be considered because if you're like me you have a hair ass and you want clean, easy shits. Simple. + +>I don't have a specific set distance +That's how hikers die and make us look retarded. Get a map. Get a compass. Learn how to use both of them together, and set yourself a destination for every day that you have food inside your pack, barring an emergency supply of food that you may need if it storms and you need to hunker down an extra day. My advice is to do what the poster I tagged mentioned, and start finding out exactly what your menu will look like when it is a day's worth of calories, then multiply that by two weeks. You'll have an idea for how much physical space and weight that you will have to budget for. It will depend on the pack you carry the rest of your equipment in how many straight days you can go without a resupply. Speaking of +>How to resupply +Now that you have a basic idea of how physically sized your tentative food needs are, you know how much to plan for and what to order. My advice here is to change your menu because you're probably sick of whatever you copypasted onto your plate for the past week. +>>2563647 +>9 days +How much distance did you cover in those 9 days? Just a general question to understand your pace, because now you're measuring your time x distance x food. +--- 2565113 +>>2563652 +>shouldn't of + +lol fag +--- 2565968 +>>2563637 (OP) +Don't just bring emergency rations anon. You must instead go down the food autist rabbit hole. +>https://youtu.be/gbmQRmuv88c [Embed] +--- 2566151 +>>2565112 +OP here + +>9 days +I covered around 130-140 miles + +>no set distance +I have since realized that this is not a good idea, I would like to make it to Fontana Dam in the two weeks, and I am working on planning out days right now. If I can keep atleast a 12 mile per day pace, it would put my a little bit past there on the last day. I think that that is very very doable for me as long as I keep my feet in good shape and dont push myself too hard any one day. I have a feeling I might make it there earlier, but we shall see, in which case I will notify my pickup driver and continue on to a pre determined alternative pickup location. + +>trail mix +makes sense, its called trail mix for a reason I guess, would it be viable to eat trail mix and other similar snacks instead of having a stove? +--- 2566222 +>>2566151 +>Fontana Dam as a destination with planned mileage +You came up with a plan, so you’re no longer a nigger. Beyond Fontana Dam is GSMNP, which is usually pretty crowded along the AT, and you have to stay in designated shelters. The only good place to get off the trail next would be Clingman’s Dome, which is another ~35 miles. If you hike up to it, people will stop you and ask about your hike. As someone who looks the part, you’ll be a novelty and part of the national park ambiance to the people who just drove up. It’s happened to me on two hikes, with multiple groups of people chit chatting. + +The Trek has a list of places you can resupply, and most of the locations early on make it fairly easy. So you won’t need two weeks of food, just money. +https://thetrek.co/appalachian-trail/resupply-points-appalachian-trail/ + +The Hostel Around the Bend is about the halfway mark for your hike. Might be a great place to wash your crusty clothes, take a shower, and get a ride into town to resupply. + +>is trail mix instead of a stove viable? +What you’re talking about is called a “no cook” setup. It can totally be done, and some people prefer it over a stove, but it’s not a popular choice for a reason. It’s only two weeks though. Ultimately it’s your call, but I wouldn’t do it. +--- 2566319 +>>2563637 (OP) +> I do not have any specific set distance in mind, my goal is to go as far as my feet will carry me in 2 weeks without hurting myself. +lol carry 1 weeks of food and mail yourself a package for the second week + +>Should I just go for maximum calorie density like picrel +you've never gone backpacking before, have you? +--- 2566401 +>>2566319 +This meme needs to be updated. StarKist is once again selling 2.6oz packets of plain chicken breast. It feels like they stopped making them years ago. The caloric density is pretty low compared to tuna but it’s nice to have the variety, and opens up more possibilities. +--- 2567874 +>>2563663 +based +--- 2567965 +>>2566401 +>>2566319 +>Injesting pounds of preservatives and mystery chemicals and not just making dried whole foods at home with a cheap dehydrator +Not gonna make it bros. If it's shelf-stable and you buy it at a store you're poisoning yourself +--- 2567980 +>>2567965 +Even though nearly all homes have a cheap and easy way to make dry foods (oven or air fryer) consoomers still rather eat tasteless dried foods covered in silicone for double the price. I like to imagine about how many companies would go belly up if the modern person was just 5% less lazy +--- 2567981 +>>2563637 (OP) +>>2565110 +>>2565968 +Was going to post these. But yeah, use resources like this to assemble calorie dense, somewhat nutritionally sensible, varied meals. With a little bit of forethought you wont have to eat the same thing every day for a week. +Also he has a video on how he plans out his meals, breakfast, trail snacks, lunch, and then a big meal after making camp for the night. You don't have to go that crazy but thing to eat before you start moving, relatively quick thing to eat while moving/without stopping for too long, then large meal that can make use of your full cooking setup because you're already at camp, isn't a bad way to divide things up. +--- 2568075 +>>2567965 +>thinks typical thruhiking food is a recipe for disaster. +You’ve never camped more than a few days, and only in fair weather. You’re fat. You’ve never backpacked more than a few miles, and even then your focus was on camping rather than hiking. You don’t even know the difference between camping and hiking. Your feet are softer than the inside of a vagina. You think pemmican and whole potatoes are a good choice for hiking food. You think pack weight isn’t important. You have no idea what you’re doing. +--- 2568098 +I used to eat those survival biscuits in Op's picture with coffee every morning. They taste really good, pronounced metallic taste to them in between sweetness and a bit of fat. Anyways if you plan on using them for hiking you're gonna have a bad time since materially it clearly isn't enough nutrient to trick your belly into thinking you're full. Instant rice is light and filling if you mix it with a nutrient dense source + +I've been looking around in the local dollar stores and they many of their fatty carb type crackers have very high caloric levels. 800 in one case for a bag of rice crackers at $2 which is pretty good considering you can easily munch three a day in normal conditions. + +Two week hiking without ample resupply, why are you even doing this to yourself man. Even army guys don't do this +--- 2568124 +>>2563637 (OP) +AT thru hikers (thru hikers in general) are a pet peeve of mine. It just seems so sheltered to me that they live off of pre-packaged food the whole time, creating piles and piles of trash in the process. Doesn't seem very /out/, just seems like normie tourism imo. + +I understand that catching your own food would take more time and isn't always a guarantee, but I never hear about anybody bringing a fishing rod, let alone a small .22 or snare wire. I'd bring a big bag of rice and another bag of oats and then catch/cook everything else. I'd also bring tea and coffee. +--- 2568125 +>>2568124 +You've never done that yourself +--- 2568132 +>>2568124 +People want to walk a long distance not gut animals and starve to death +--- 2568370 +>>2568124 +You’ve never camped more than a few days, and only in fair weather. You’re fat. You’ve never backpacked more than a few miles, and even then your focus was on camping rather than hiking. You don’t even know the difference between camping and hiking. Your feet are softer than the inside of a vagina. You think pemmican and whole potatoes are a good choice for hiking food. You think pack weight isn’t important. You have no idea what you’re doing. +--- 2568372 +>>2568370 +Not that anon, but other than giving you back pain and sadness, what does eating pemmican and whole potatoes do? +--- 2568386 +>>2568372 +NTA, but I’m the one who originally typed it. It was in response to someone who was asking why he shouldn’t just start walking from his house into the woods and keep going for weeks (or something like that). Now I’ve seen it used just calling out general newfags and larpers. For instance someone dropped it in the alcohol stove thread when another Anon just said to build a fire to save weight. +--- 2568468 +>>2563702 +Why did goverment cheese fail ? Why don’t they do it anymore ? +--- 2568492 +>>2568468 +They do. diff --git a/out/2563693.txt b/out/2563693.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..04583636dd55a81f966fab6590123a1aa8be0847 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2563693.txt @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@ +----- +--- 2563693 +last ones were pretty comfy. share music you like that makes you think of outdoors/nature +https://youtu.be/DMe1KTd-DVg [Embed] +--- 2563704 +basically the finnish lyrics say that it is alright to feel like you belong to the the woods even if people think you are weird, also never give a fuck and just bear with it if you are made fun of because it is the right thing to do +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wszdd_Bok2A [Embed] +--- 2563706 +https://youtu.be/iVvXB-Vwnco [Embed] +--- 2563717 +>>2563704 +>>2563699 +cool, you like black metal a lot? +https://youtu.be/ZvIrsh3uCZc [Embed] +--- 2565093 +>>2563693 (OP) +Due to my Hyperborean blood, I often engage in the ancient rituals of my ancestors. I will always dance in a forest at night playing the music that I have linked below. I can feel the life force coursing through my veins. I gaze beyond the forest as the Faustian spirit lifts me and allows me to look beyond the horizon into infinity. I hear the sweet voice of Mother Nature herself encouraging me to return to my home once more. She whispers through the wind, encouraging me to abandon modernity and return to my roots. Like the trees, that my ancestors would knock on centuries ago for good luck, I too will ground myself to this Earth and preserve the last corners of goodness left in this world against the Judaic forces that seek to destroy it. +>Ancient Slavic Pagan Music Mix 1 (Pagania I) +https://youtube.com/watch?v=jYr1GmytTfI [Embed] +>Ancient Slavic Pagan Music Mix 2 (Pagania II) +https://youtube.com/watch?v=_YaSYOhMoaE [Embed] +--- 2565095 +Stand strong, Faustian man! This fight is not over yet. The battle for civilisation has only just begun! The enemies of the West are already through the gates! Will you defend Europa and her people? Do not allow the fate of Atlantis to transpire for a second time… +>Sovngarde (Full Lyrics and Translation) +https://youtube.com/watch?v=VBPwCmU0V-Q [Embed] +--- 2565097 +>>2563693 (OP) +this one really gets me in the flow of things +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4R6tijK7Io [Embed] +--- 2565100 +https://youtu.be/6I_YAkFk3V0 [Embed] +--- 2565169 +https://youtu.be/ZR2JlDnT2l8 [Embed] + +Furnish your mind with beauty +--- 2565214 +Nothing beats John Fahey or American Primitivism for /out/ music +https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nDok0EbjTqRqdjwSWeCeDgykyv_VJf7dU +--- 2565312 +>>2563693 (OP) +Astral Weeks +--- 2565334 +>>2563693 (OP) +Uhm, just normal music. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEqaTXHW-QY [Embed] + +You people are mentally ill. Stay in the city. +--- 2565836 +>>2565093 +>>2565095 +Based Chud. +--- 2566250 +>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jes6IIX72Kk&list=LL&index=17&t=357s [Embed] +>https://youtu.be/OxgVmpAk538 [Embed] +>https://youtu.be/vXj71r-WrQk?t=2555 [Embed] +>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK4JSwhdcdE&list=LL&index=16&t=584s [Embed] +>https://youtu.be/L42AnSAdzXw?t=214 [Embed] diff --git a/out/2563792.txt b/out/2563792.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..24a084573e09d9315d5d281515afa61fe6bcccc9 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2563792.txt @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +----- +--- 2563792 +Can you recommend any hiking / scout YouTube channels, ideally with product tests and comparisons ? + +Thanks +--- 2563797 +>>2563792 (OP) +Kyle Hates Hiking +Miranda from REI +Darwin on the Trail +Dan Becker +--- 2564080 +>>2563797 +>Miranda +>Dan Becker +--- 2564087 +>>2564080 +They are all retarded that's the theme. +--- 2564091 +>>2564080 +>>2564087 +Come on, Dan is great... +--- 2564103 +>>2563792 (OP) +Why? You want to organize some collective trolling? + +You know everything on youtube is fake right? +--- 2564105 +>>2564103 +Lmao we got a real schizo here. Do you think trump won and the vaccine has nanomachines? +--- 2564112 +>>2563797 +>kyle hates hiking +fuck that shitass california faggot can't stand him +--- 2564113 +>>2563792 (OP) +homemade wanderlust is alright +--- 2564117 +>>2564105 +Nah, politics is fake, idiot. Go back to peddit. + +>>2564113 +Constant product shilling... + +You youtube addicts are pathetic. Almost as pathetic as twitch addicts. Get a hobby. Maybe go outside? +--- 2564120 +>>2564117 +na thanks i just went outside and got the mail +op is asking for channels that do product tests and comparisons, that chick does, i dunno go be mad at youtube i guess, that or continuing guzzling nigger cum lol +--- 2564124 +>>2564120 +>gay fantasies +Please stop watching jewtube. +--- 2564125 +>>2564124 +>whining about videos on the internet +go suck some more niggerdick lol +--- 2564128 +>>2563792 (OP) +if you can stand his accent Backpacking UK is ok for reviews, seems like he actually uses the gear unlike 99% of faggot youtubers +--- 2565540 +>>2563792 (OP) +our boy frozen +https://www.youtube.com/@FrozensAdventures +--- 2566785 +>>2564080 +I dislike Dan Becker because I watched Kyle hates hikings video on it but when I checked him out he seemed like a pretty inoffensive /out/ gear channel. Up to you OP if you got the monies. +--- 2568484 +Forestanon diff --git a/out/2564157.txt b/out/2564157.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..88738d8c123a8d26bd6968dd01363da23ea64810 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564157.txt @@ -0,0 +1,35 @@ +----- +--- 2564157 +That is all +--- 2564158 +>>2564157 (OP) +damn bruh u wildin +--- 2564982 +>>2564157 (OP) +>the absolute state of tarp campers +--- 2565004 +>>2564157 (OP) +No cap? +--- 2565024 +>>2564157 (OP) +while that is a great statement i rebuttal with +--- 2565041 +>>2564157 (OP) +Shit brah, where are you camping? +--- 2566040 +>>2564157 (OP) +Hi +--- 2566346 +>>2564157 (OP) +Hai :3 +--- 2566392 +>>2565041 +Mirkwood +--- 2566395 +that is a very robust spider +--- 2566413 +>>2564982 +Yeah but seriously where do you find these spiders? Is this Australia or South america? +--- 2566415 +>>2564157 (OP) +gay spider diff --git a/out/2564237.txt b/out/2564237.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5b2ad8b2b7dd07e675cd30c7859ae72fa8f42cad --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564237.txt @@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +----- +--- 2564237 +What does /out/ think about mountain huts? +--- 2564243 +I had one of the best evenings I've ever had up at Madison Spring Hut. Amazing spot, and comfy bunks +--- 2564254 +>>2564237 (OP) +A helluva lot nicer than a tent after skinning up slopes all day. +--- 2564313 +>>2564237 (OP) + +Where is that? I wouldn't really call it a hut ... +--- 2564315 +>>2564237 (OP) +That ain't no hut. That's some /in/door larper's estate. +--- 2564318 +>>2564237 (OP) +Not sure what exactly you mean by 'mountain hut' here, but when I was 10 my dad bought a sizable tract of land deep in the Appalachian mountains here in Tennessee, from the base of the mountains it takes 2 and a half hours of winding dirt roads crossing river streams to get to the land. We built an off-grid cabin up there with my grandpa and other family members soon after with a woodstove, couple of bedrooms and bunk rooms, and a full wrap around porch. It is now a hunting cabin for us and a place to retreat whenever we feel like it. Pic is of a gorge carved by a mountain stream below the cabin. +--- 2564340 +>>2564237 (OP) +They destroy the outdoors. If it were up to me I would prohibit the building and maintenance of huts, roads, trails, and other infrastructure above 2100m in the Alps. +--- 2564452 +I think they're good. I'll be doing an alpine crossing this summer and I'll be spending the nights in those instead of a tent +--- 2564605 +>>2564318 +that's fuckin rad +--- 2564622 +>>2564605 +Until he finds people have vandalized it while he's gone. +--- 2564628 +>>2564237 (OP) +>hut +--- 2564644 +>>2564622 +that's not the backwoods Tennessee code anon +--- 2564645 +>>2564622 +As far as we can tell no one has laid a finger on it in all the years it has been there. We take precautions, though. +--- 2564733 +>>2564313 +Berliner Hütte + +https://www.google.com/maps/place/Berliner+H%C3%BCtte,+Zemmgrund+282,+6295+Mayrhofen,+%C3%96sterreich/@47.024511,11.812813,16z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x4777e57d3007310b:0x704951b6469a56bc!8m2!3d47.024511!4d11.812813!16s%2Fg%2F121xjk90 +--- 2564735 +>>2564315 +>That ain't no hut +It is +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_hut +--- 2567685 +>>2564237 (OP) +Is that supposed to be a hut? I don't understand what you're asking. +--- 2567968 +>>2567685 +>Is that supposed to be a hut? +Yes diff --git a/out/2564241.txt b/out/2564241.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b999c4fda749016cc478202565a2cb54a0bec029 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564241.txt @@ -0,0 +1,185 @@ +----- +--- 2564241 +I always bring a few cans with me but I'm considering packing a half rack from now on. I'll bet you pussies don't even drink beer. +--- 2564242 +I bring moonshine which I refine myself from cheap wine. It's 68%. Instead of carrying 1l of beer I can just carry 200ml of my moonshine. + +You should at least consider taking spirits. Fuck carrying half a gallon of beer that's only 4% or something lmao. +--- 2564250 +>>2564242 +Right on. Here's my thinking: +Cans of beer add a bunch of weight on the first day of a hike but like magic your pack weighs two pounds less on the second day. If I can't carry a couple extra pounds the first day I'm in bad shape. + +Beer is hydrating. If the first night is a dry camp you'd have to bring water anyway, so might as well bring beer. + +Beer has calories. Instead of eating a sugary snack, drink beer. + +Beer requires no mixer. Yes I know spirits technically don't require a mixer but even good bourbon likes a splash of spring water. + +I have a question for you. When you distill wine, what percentage is heads and tails? I've done a few runs of corn liquor and had enough trouble that I'd like to do a wine distill. +--- 2564262 +>>2564241 (OP) +I prefer spirits. Usually pre-mixed into a cocktail of some kind at home and carried in a thermos. Beer is too little alcohol for the weight imo. + +I'll sometimes bring a beer or two on a day hike, or a few if we're car camping though. +--- 2564267 +>>2564250 +i just go to the gym +--- 2564277 +>>2564250 +>Beer is hydrating. +Lol +>If the first night is a dry camp you'd have to bring water anyway +Lmao +--- 2564381 +>>2564241 (OP) +fun fact: 1/2 kegs fit perfectly inside the late 90s type US military rucksack. +--- 2564711 +At least a 12 pack, any less and you’re just jerking off. What’s your beer of choice more importantly ? I’m a pbr man myself +--- 2564736 +>>2564711 +Any good IPA. I had a rye beer years ago that was nice but I've never found another. A cold beer after a long hike is what I live for. +--- 2564893 +>>2564711 +>>2564736 +both shit tastes +--- 2564918 +Okay you guys are faggots and beer/whiskey hangovers suck so here is my recipe for good booze to be /out/ with. +1l spirit 95% +2l vodka 40% +1kg plums (without the seeds) +0,5kg sugar (or more, depends on the taste, can be replaced with honey) +Mix that shit and let it stay in a big jar for a month. Shake it every other day. After a month it's ready but remember that it only gets better with time. We don't want seeds due to cyanide that may appear after some time. Cheap, tastes heavenly and almost no hangover after that. Ration it according to your needs. It's an old Polish recipe. +--- 2564926 +>>2564736 +>drinks an IPA + +Id kill you if i could +--- 2564930 +>>2564241 (OP) +i dont drink at all. everyone who drinks gets fat and ugly, its a cruel reflection of their uninhibited personality that cannot say no to poisoning itself. +--- 2564932 +You're looking to us to to tell you how much you're allowed to drink and calling other people pussies in the same post? Really dude? +--- 2564938 +>>2564932 +You must go back. +--- 2564977 +7 months sober + +you too can be free +--- 2565035 +>>2564241 (OP) +I don't drink alcohol. +--- 2565060 +>>2564977 +Congrats brother, I got 3 years 2 months +--- 2565079 +>>2564711 +Don't drink a ton of beer but victory is probably my favorite +--- 2565080 +>>2564926 +Try having sex; you won't get so angry about such trivial things. +--- 2565081 +>>2564977 +Well I'm not a retard who can't into self control so I'll keep enjoying beer in moderation. Congrats for recognizing you had a problem and dealing with it though. +--- 2565149 +>>2564977 +Based. I went from drinking 3 - 4 24 packs per week with a bottle of whiskey all through my early 20's to quitting cold turkey. Almost 30 now, and I can enjoy a social beer or two without desiring to get shit faced. Haven't had a buzz on in years and I dont even miss it. I look back on those years in disgust and shame +--- 2565151 +>>2564241 (OP) +Im an alcoholic and i prefer not to bring beer when out, ruins the experience and my fishing, despite the fact that i can drink ireland under the table. I only drink during the evening +--- 2565364 +>>2565081 +Lol fair enough anon and ty + +>>2565060 +>>2565149 +Nice +--- 2565387 +>calls us pussies +>drinks beer not whiskey + +kek +--- 2565394 +>>2565387 +Nigger I drink bourbon like water. +--- 2566117 +>>2565080 +ask me how I know you're a fat female +--- 2566139 +>>2564241 (OP) +Carry liquor or something high alcohol + +Yeah is does suck because sometimes you need mixers, but you dont need to get the highest proof stuff out there, some crown flavors can be sipped straight with very little bad taste at all +--- 2566170 +The last time I drank while camping, I had such a good ficking time that I blacked out and pissed in my tent +--- 2566474 +>>2564893 +What be your taste anon, bud light ? +--- 2566491 +>>2565081 +>drinks beer, which lowers testosterone and makes you fat +>totally not a retard though +--- 2566496 +A good Wodka is perfect, high alcohol content, wont freeze, tastes good when unmixed, but can also be used in combination with almost anything. +Also only beer that has been brewed in Czechia, Poland, Slovakia, eastern parts of Germany is accepteble, everything else is sugary pisswater. +>>2564250 +>Beer is hydrating +you are retardet +--- 2566497 +why are americans afraid of high proof alcohol? Can't you just bring something that has more than fuckinf 5% pussy? What, your throat will burn after a sip of 98% spirit? Pussy +--- 2566501 +I take stronger stuff like scotch or jaeger, in a plastic bottle to save weight. No litter as it can be filled with water later. +--- 2566502 +>>2566491 +>product of dozens of generations of beer-drinking men +>many of whom were drinking/drunk when conceiving his ancestors +>beer affects my sense of manhood + +Wake up modern man. +--- 2567421 +Can moonshine be used to disinfect water in a pinch? What's the ratio of alcohol to water needed to prevent waterborne illness? +--- 2567424 +>>2567421 +I'm sure somebody figured that out but in the grand scheme of things it's not something you should rely upon because there are so many other ways to treat water. Save your liver for good beer, bourbon, tequila, etc. +--- 2567436 +>>2565080 +>IPA +Your woman is having sex and you are not. +--- 2567458 +>>2567421 +>Can moonshine be used to disinfect water in a pinch? What's the ratio of alcohol to water needed to prevent waterborne illness? +Not really. You need more than 10% ethanol to have any significant antiseptic effect (and even then it's pretty minimal). At that point the alcohol is going to dehydrate you more than the water can offset. +--- 2568247 +>>2564241 (OP) +The 5-liter Heineken Draft Keg is the perfect size for a day-hike. +--- 2568265 +>>2564241 (OP) +Anything over 2 drinks per night is over the limit. +--- 2568321 +>>2568247 +Yeah but it's Heineken. +--- 2568333 +>>2568265 +While you're correct about the nightly limit you didn't quite answer the question. I posit that three beers is insufficient for a typical pack trip, but if you were on a seven day pack trip, even two beers per night would mean carrying a 12-pack (the seventh night usually being spent at home). If the pack trip was a simple three mile hike to a camp where you'll be staying until you return home, this is doable. Otherwise, one might be forced to stage loads of beer or use porters for a lengthy trip, mountaineering style. +--- 2568456 +>>2565081 +>needs to carry a keg into the woods +>I don't have a problem +right +--- 2568517 +>>2564241 (OP) +Some decent cans of belgian 12% triple is always nice. +--- 2568521 +>>2566496 +you just haven't tried good beers from other regions then +--- 2568572 +>>2564241 (OP) +Between my brother and I we typically have a full case of Leinenkugels Original day 1, and by day 3, it’s just a couple oz of aluminum in the trash sack and it’s whisky time. I like Redbreast Irish whisky, and we bring it in a couple of Stanley flasks +I don’t tend to drink when I’m hiking without him. I think it’s because when I hiking without him, I generally can’t depend on other people to drink and carry their own weight or drink and not become a mess in camp. +>>2566502 +Not being able to understand bringing alcohol on a hike is pissbaby tier, not being able to hike without drinking is dependent little bitch tier. +--- 2568588 +>>2568456 +>if you aren't 100% sober you must take kegs innawoods with you +How many times were you dropped on your head as a child? diff --git a/out/2564420.txt b/out/2564420.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6860ceeebd9f39146f1e4a5335aa1707e9c25327 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564420.txt @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +----- +--- 2564420 +What's stopping you from going outside? +This is the thread we use to talk about our problems and personal issues stopping from spending more time /out/. + +Be honest and open anons. This is a safe space. No normies allowed. +--- 2564427 +>>2564420 (OP) +its muddy as fuck outside right now, the winter snow was almost fully melted and then it snowed another 20cm this week. maybe by the end of the month +--- 2564434 +>>2564427 +I bet next month you will complain about mosquitos. +--- 2564454 +>>2564420 (OP) +Eternal winter and interlodge orders atm. +--- 2564507 +When I had a job I didn't have enough time to go/out/ +Now I don't have enough money. Retarded poorfag who can't drive so any decent out trip means spending like 50 on public transportation and I can't even pay my bills +--- 2564513 +>>2564420 (OP) + Bit of laziness, and most of my “free time” is spent improving the property(garden, other projects) +But mostly laziness and taking things for granted. It’s quite sad. +--- 2564520 +>>2564420 (OP) +fuckin soaked an muddy here, rained all day yesterday and pretty much rained all last week, ran some errands today and it is fairly cool so that's been nice +--- 2564575 +>>2564420 (OP) +to be honest because most places are owned by retards that make the forests private property +--- 2564577 +>>2564420 (OP) +I only work 21 hours a week so I have lots of free time most of which I spend gathering and splitting firewood to sell for some extra cheese. +There is nothing stopping me from going to new places during the day because my job starts in the evening, the weather is getting better and I have a few spots on my list to visit. +I'm a cunt so I don't travel much during the winter time. +I really cant imagine working over 40+ hours a week for someone else without a real sense of purpose, but I admire people who manage to do that. + +Pic related is my Easter fire, it has been going strong for 8 days lmao. + +>>2564520 +Same here, snow > rain > mud and shit > repeat. +It really is no surprise though, I think we just simply forget that seasons come and go kek. +--- 2564585 +>>2564577 +>>2564520 +Even in Brazil this shit happens, everything gets dirty af it's awfull + +humidity levels in the forest are very high +--- 2564586 +>>2564575 +Alright, then come to Sweden my fren. We move freely here as long as we don't walk directly into someones yard. +--- 2564601 +>>2564575 +If people were more respectful I’d be okay letting people hike or camp on my land. +But I live in Oregon so they’d a)never leave b) invite their hobo junkie friends c) shut the place up (literally) and leave all manner of trash lying around. + +I feel your pain though, growing up dad and I’d try to find places to camp/set up the telescope, and it was no trespassing sign after no trespassing sign. + +I will say though, if it’s Weyerhaeuser land, or some other absentee landowner (think corps or conservation trusts out of CA) it’s your civic duty to trespass +--- 2564624 +>>2564586 +Wish Canada had this shit +90% of the province is crown land with pretty free usage, which is great, but you still come across gated backcountry roads(even publicly funded ones) and private land blocking access to public land all the time, and it's getting gradually worse. +--- 2564635 +>>2564624 +Canada is pretty shit for /out/ in general. +--- 2564639 +>>2564420 (OP) +Coworkers are neurotic normies and don't understand that plans don't come to a screeching halt when they don't understand something +--- 2564659 +>>2564601 +I feel you brah, it gets me mad that niggers can fuck with the forest with their trash + +but you're right, I want to try it out tomorrow ngl, I'll trespass no matter what, fuck those retarded rules, I don't even know if there are any laws about it in Brazil +--- 2564665 +>>2564635 +Relative to most of the world it's still pretty good, legal wild camping on crown land puts it well ahead of a lot of developed countries, and 90% is not an exaggeration, BC land is apparently 94% public, even if most of that is 10 hours drive from anywhere. The physical country itself is easily in the top 3 of the planet, largely because it's huge and has world class examples of nearly every biome, but outdoor shit is commercializing more and more and the government is complicit in giving private companies leases on key areas that gate access to wild backcountry, logging companies are less and less likely to allow easy public access to forest service roads which is a bit of a legal grey area, and all these problems are a lot worse the closer to a town you get, which is somewhat understandable because normalfags cause problems but degrading access to nature is a real issue. +--- 2566046 +>>2564420 (OP) +I'm afraid that a normonkeygroidie will use their mobile device to take a picture of me in my post apocalyptic larp outfit and post me online to laugh at me +--- 2566372 +>>2564507 +Same. + +Also, I feel depressed going /out/ when jobless. I just feel directionless and like a complete bum. +--- 2567160 +>>2564420 (OP) + +I'm lazy honestly. it's easier to just sit on the couch with my laptop. I'm getting outside more though, through personal guilt +--- 2567161 +>>2566046 + +>my post apocalyptic larp outfit + +fuck you for making me want to take a trip to the thrift store now +--- 2567167 +>>2564420 (OP) +one more day until the lakes thaw and i can go fishing +--- 2567247 +>>2564420 (OP) +I have schizophrenia +--- 2567266 +>>2564420 (OP) +I just came back home. +My feet hurt. +Look at this newt I found. +Also why would I want to be anything like those trashy individuals? +--- 2567286 +i'm a retarded poorfag who never learned how to drive. and it feels like even if i did learn and get a license there's no way i could afford car insurance on top of my other current expenses, which means even if i got a license i legally wouldn't be able to drive, and if i can't drive i can't get to any good wilderness areas. there's a hiking trail near by i can ride my bike to but that's about it and there's no camping allowed there so if the weather is good i can hike for a few hours before going home and that's it. +--- 2567292 +i went /out/ on easter and got assaulted by no less than 30 ticks despite spraying my clothes in permethrin beforehand, when i got home monday i used my dogs flea and tick killing shampoo because i was so paranoid i missed 10 more +it didn't help that i was using a polish lavvu, i really need to invest in a tipi style tent that has an inner mesh portion to keep insects out because i woke up covered in ants +--- 2567683 +>>2564420 (OP) +>What's stopping you from going outside? +Unironically? I live in Japan now, and I have no idea what the rules and regulations are. The last thing I want is to be going to some campsite and breaking some implicitly known thousand year old law because the culture is different and suddenly a dozen nip gendarmes haul me in for crimes against the forest spirits. +--- 2567686 +>>2564420 (OP) +the woods out here are too small and teenagers will come harass me if i loiter too long without molesting a child or buying drugs +i love camping but the outdoors are TOO accessible +wish there was some proper wilderness to disappear into for a week or two without having to make an international trip diff --git a/out/2564450.txt b/out/2564450.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f7016c0823e6312c521a151a7a1a4a33c010814d --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564450.txt @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@ +----- +--- 2564450 +I have an opportunity to move to Roanoke, VA for work. Has anyone lived there or visited? What are the pros and cons? +--- 2566204 +Visited a few times when I lived in VA. Excellent mtb and hiking opportunities, low cost of living. Cons, it’s Appalachia so quite poor and uncultured. +--- 2566208 +>>2566204 +based tardo +--- 2566218 +>>2564450 (OP) +>I have an opportunity to move to Roanoke, VA for work +RIP in peace. Some Brits tried that a while back they all got murdered by savages. +--- 2566359 +>>2566218 +Roanoke, Virginia is different from Roanoke, North Carolina. Also, first is pronounced row-NOKE, while the second is said row-UH-noke. + +>Source: am Virginian +--- 2567687 +Cons: Every once in a while you hear a noise outside your cabin and everyone in the town vani +--- 2568263 +>>2566359 +The Roanoke in NC is actually a wilderness zone , might be cool to check out a ghost forest diff --git a/out/2564464.txt b/out/2564464.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..63fda2bddf8790aa42a5f45fe86139464e0acd34 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564464.txt @@ -0,0 +1,192 @@ +----- +--- 2564464 +I'm fine paying fee's but it's a bullshit complicated process here. Reserve the exact backpacking spot, parking pass, campfire permit... + +And there actually are rangers that stop and check people, they've all been cool with me and only checked once before +--- 2564517 +>>2564464 (OP) +I'm so glad I don't live in the UK. +--- 2564538 +If you make any reservations or purchase a permit through rec.gov, you are paying Booz Allen to control you. Who is Booze Allen? +--- 2564549 +>>2564464 (OP) +Who owns ReserveAmerica? What is Alpine Investors? +--- 2564552 +>>2564517 +This is start to happen world wide brah + +here in Brazil most wild places are being bought by retards that closes it so you can't even go to the forests in piece +--- 2564559 +>>2564464 (OP) +Depends where you camp.. East coast campsites are ass expensive for a "spot" dunno if its to keep the niggers out because they have to pay.. but it's getting insane. tent only spot, nothing else- $30 is becoming the norm..... midwest it's still pretty cheap- for now... Then you have Bro-tier states like Nebraska that legit have firerings at their rest stops.... and have Bro-tier laws in place that protect you from using the rest stops to actually sleep- because its dangerous as fuck to drive tired but retarded ass states like my home state of florida... has too many people and basically ban you from doing this... TN before the new no camping on states lands. "anti homeless law" it was like 4 hours you could park at the rest stops. +--- 2564566 +>>2564464 (OP) +Make it illegal to hunt and gather +Make it illegal to live outside a city +Make it illegal to pay with physical currency +Make it illegal to own a gas vehicle + +Sit inside and consume digital goods, faggots. +--- 2564588 +Booz Allen +Alpine Investors +Booz Allen +Alpine Investors +Booz Allen +Alpine Investors +Booz Allen +Alpine Investors +Booz Allen +Alpine Investors +Booz Allen +Alpine Investors +Booz Allen +Alpine Investors +--- 2564592 +>>2564549 +Oy vey why are you asking so many questions +--- 2565494 +>>2564464 (OP) +>refuse to get permits +>hike off trail to hard-to-reach places +>enjoy your camp knowing that no underpaid ranger rick will have the motivation to track you down and fine you for your lack of a spork loicense +--- 2565512 +I mean, they're not cops but they are government employees, I feel like it's a big deal, it's not poaching a sturgeon but still... Probably a $200 fine +--- 2565519 +>>2564552 +The forest is thick there no one will find you +--- 2565520 +>>2564464 (OP) +Just some expended ammo +--- 2565581 +>>2565494 +>get back to the trailhead and find a boot on your car +Wonderful plan. +--- 2565615 +>>2565581 +What miserable nanny state do you live in that they boot your car for parking, lol +>pull battery-powered cutoff saw out of trunk +>cut off boot, drive away, toss boot pieces in a trash can somewhere +--- 2565793 +>>2564464 (OP) +>camping permit +Jesus fucking Christ +--- 2565843 +>>2564464 (OP) +Cartop tents are a meme. Incredibly expensive, hard to replace parts, require an expensive rack/bed rack, reduces gas mileage (and on a tacoma? lol) etc. I work in an outdoor store and they're always getting returned because they require more than one person to mount/dismount and are just a pain in the ass all around. + +I overland in my stock tacoma with my 2 person tent and a comfy sleeping pad. I have Ko2s for rocks/mud. Only thing I'm considering is a winch, but I've never gotten stuck because I know how to drive in the mud. +--- 2565851 +>>2564517 +this happens here? +--- 2565858 +>>2565843 +the only acceptable form of a cartop tent is when they are built into a van or a truck and allow access to it from inside. sleeping on top of your car sounds extremely annoying climbing up and down, just to save a few minutes of searching for a spot. +--- 2565862 +>>2565843 +The only cartop tents users are people who are afraid that snakes will somehow get into a regular tent and eat them. This fact is directly from the mouth of a cartop tent maker who I've known for 20 years. +--- 2565864 +>>2565862 +i could see them being useful in overlanding in desert environments due to rocky terrain and poisonous animals +--- 2565944 +>>2565615 +Imagine only going out in the state in which you live. +--- 2565956 +>>2565615 +It wouldn’t be a state law or regulation as you’d be in a national park, pretty much the only place that requires a permit. How do newfags not know that? +--- 2565963 +>>2564517 +As another Anon said in a different thread, the US has permit systems (almost entirely limited to national parks) because we still have natural areas that are worth preserving. They saw where Europe went wrong and took a different course. +--- 2565972 +>>2565944 +Not all of us have the luxury of driving cross country to have our cars booted, check your privilege +>>2565956 +>he missed the joke +--- 2565987 +>>2565972 +>What miserable nanny state do you live in that they boot your car for parking, lol +Just because you put “lol” at the end of a question doesn’t make it a joke. Please explain the humor behind it. +--- 2565990 +>>2565963 +funny that the parts of europe worth saving has done the exact oposite and made it a constitutional right to travel and camp freely on non developed land. +--- 2566018 +>>2565987 +lurk moar +--- 2566118 +>>2565963 +NPS/BLM is also a method for controlling the population corridors and resources. It's not as altruistic as you might think. +--- 2567180 +This is something that really pissed me off about Alberta. They recently made all crown land west of Calgary subject to a camping pass now, $60/year. Crown land is supposed to be free for everyone, and it is in the rest of the country. +--- 2567238 +>>2564464 (OP) +You're stealing food from the mouths of the jooz' larvae. +--- 2567239 +https://www.rvtravel.com/letter-editor-rvers-take-contribute-1099/ +--- 2567296 +>>2564464 (OP) +when it becomes a crime in my cunt i'll sell my expensive gear and use hardware store shit so it won't be a big financial loss when authorities book me +--- 2567299 +>>2564464 (OP) +also they will leave you alone if you display mentally ill behavior and look like a filthy hobo +--- 2567308 +>>2567299 +Ordinary citizens will. +Law enforcement will not. +They will arrest you and impound your vehicle. +--- 2567359 +Laws and regulations like that are put in place as a preventative cost +Regulates and deters morans from turning outdoors into a bigger shit show +Sucks for people who respect being out but without them tourists would be pitching tents on top of endangered species nests +--- 2567674 +>don't carry any identification +>refuse to give any +>just say "The charges, officer?" +What can they do to you, really? Keep you in a cell for the rest of your life because they found you sleeping under a tree and you won't tell them your name? Not bloody likely. +--- 2567689 +>>2567674 +There is no law that they will not kill you to enforce +--- 2567690 +>>2567689 +really, faggot? you get all your legal knowledge from First Blood? +--- 2567692 +>>2567690 +>23 second response time +That's some fast salt right there +--- 2567693 +>>2567692 +Oh no, gonna cry cause I'm better at 4chan than you? +--- 2567701 +It's a public health issue. +If you're sleeping outdoors, where are you shitting? +--- 2567727 +>>2567359 +>Regulates and deters morans from turning outdoors into a bigger shit show +Because everybody knows that criminals follow laws, retard. +I don´t get people like you. It´s unironically morons like you that got us all the government tyranny, and spying. +If you make laws for retards and criminals, you end up with a country run by retards and criminals. +Fucking smoothbrain, holy shit. +--- 2567728 +>>2567296 +>in my cunt +I just wish everybody who says "in my cunt" instead of "in my country" would drop dead. +Nothing of value lost. +--- 2567737 +>>2567693 +>gonna cry +You sound like the mean kid from an early 90s movie. +--- 2567745 +>>2567727 +You are assblasted and I said deters not prevents +Also nowhere did I say I agree with it I just gave my opinion on why I think it is +You're right though we should have no laws so anyone can do absolutely whatever they want any place and time +--- 2567903 +>>2567745 +>no laws +Yes +--- 2568157 +>>2567728 +yeah, in your cunt maybe +--- 2568408 +>>2567701 +>public health issue +yeah, they should be shitting in the streets of san francisco like everybody else. diff --git a/out/2564503.txt b/out/2564503.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..42ecc26901575a79286778592337788d1a2ebe3f --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564503.txt @@ -0,0 +1,362 @@ +----- +--- 2564503 +I need to uo my food game, I went for my first hike where I slept outside last week and my food was a bit shit, so tell me what are the best options. +--- 2564506 +Ice cream back at camp is amazing +--- 2564509 +>>2564503 (OP) +my idea: + +--2 categories: main food, snacks + +MAIN FOOD + +-bread dough to cook +-butter (best for cold weather) +-canned meat +-canned condensed milk +-canned tuna +-canned tomatoes +-canned fruit +-powdered coffee +-dry biscuits +-dried meat (expensive af) +-pemmican +-electrolytes to put in water + +SNACKS + +-protein bars +-crackers (wasa, Ritz, tuc, normal crackers etc) +--- 2564512 +>>2564509 +also cereal bars for snacks + +post infographics if you got them +--- 2564522 +>>2564503 (OP) +Nice b8m8, how'd you know bitchmade isn't welcome here? +--- 2564529 +I just eat like summer sausage and cheese, maybe some triscuits. +Vienna Sausages are another staple, basically all sorts of bar shaped foods. +If I bring a little stove I'll also bring like a can of beanee weenees or some spam or something. + +"Camping" foods like freeze dried stuff or MRE's are too expensive. +--- 2564546 +>>2564503 (OP) +Take one of those and cook meat and potatoes + +this is one of my /out/s +--- 2564568 +oats, meat, coffee + +all you need brother +--- 2564571 +>>2564568 +do you like eating oat for real? + +I would rather make some sandwiches +--- 2564578 +I bring canned chicken, chicken broth, can of salsa verde, and cream cheese to make soup. Also, on the border tortilla chips. +--- 2564584 +>dried beans +>dried tuna +>dried potatoes +>dried onions +>cup-a soup tomato or chanterelle + +im currently drying 4.5kilo of red beans +--- 2564589 +>>2564571 +i love oatmeal +--- 2564626 +>>2564546 +how far /out/ are you where there's processed lumber to burn? +can't knock the hustle though i do this shit in my back yard too +--- 2564627 +>>2564512 +jesus fuck anon +--- 2564633 +>>2564509 +>carrying all this shit with water in it and zero nutritional density +>then bringing pemmican and dried meat and biscuits +what's the fucking point +either you're bringing camping food or glamping food. just pick one. either eat tasty shit if you're doing a short trip in the woods or actually read the nutrition label and learn what the things on it mean if you're spending extended time in the backcountry. +--- 2564661 +>>2564626 +About 1 mile from the road, I have absolutely no clue how this shit got there ngl +--- 2564688 +Look at the canned foods aisle of your local supermarket and decide from there. I usually bring canned tuna, salmon and chicken, instant rice or noodles (something I can cook fully with less than ideal fire on a camping pot), maybe canned chickpeas or legumes, and canned vegetables. I also bring fresh fruit, I don't bother with fresh vegetables unless I'm in a very short (sub 3 days) expedition. I usually bring my air rifle while /out/ so I can compliment my food with doves and quails I find. For snacks I to bring like nuts, dried bananas, some chocolate candy, and crackers, but usually I'm not snacking much while out, exercising cuts my appetite. +--- 2564785 +>>2564503 (OP) +Bland food is very delicious once you switch into hobo mode. + +>Breakfast +100g oats +40g milkpowder + +>Second Breakfast +100g Cashew Nuts +20g Dried Berries + +>Lunchon +Knäckebröd +Smoked Meat +Hamburgersauce + +>Afternoonsees +100g Peanuts +100g Chocolate +Cereal Bars + +>Dinna +Mashed Potatoes +Smoked Meat +Knäckebröd, Pasta, or Lentils +Dried Fish & Chips +--- 2564786 +>>2564512 +>how to cause a root fire.jpg +--- 2564787 +>>2564633 +To some of the retards on this board, eating anything but unhealthy goyslop means you're a larping faggot with zero outdoor experience +--- 2564797 +>>2564503 (OP) +Anon, this question is too open ended. What are your goals? How far are you hiking? How long are you staying? + +If your focus is on camping, you have more options. Weight is less of an issue. Short trips allow for food that would otherwise spoil. Longer hikes are tougher, as weight can be a determination factor of comfort. If your focus is on hiking, canned food isn’t a good option. +--- 2564815 +>>2564503 (OP) +You can thank me later. +--- 2564816 +>>2564627 +Not my problem. +--- 2564826 +>>2564818 +Coffee +--- 2564827 +>>2564826 +nomnom +--- 2564856 +>>2564797 +hiking, id stay out 1 night and 2 days, or 2 nights and 3 days, that the most I can do since I do it in the weekend, I want to bring stuff to keep me fed and not be miserable, and possibly that tastes well, and isnt a pain in the dick to cook, last time I had rice which is annoying to cook since it uses water, and tuna cans, which I don't really like, and cereal bars, indid eat the first night because I was cold as fuck and tired so I went to sleep, btw incoukdnt feel my toes anymore, after I changed my socks wet It was much better, idk the temp but probably was below 0 because my tarp had small ice things above my sleeping bag hole where I was breathing. + +anyway the next day my muscles went into exhaustion much faster (idk if that's the true reason but it's what i noticed) bc I didn't eat, plus having shit food lowers morale and makes the experience less pleasant + +my rice tasted like plastic because I had to use my bladder water to cook it, and it had fucking pine needles inside +--- 2564857 +>>2564826 +what do you use to protect the trangia from wind? it was a pain on the dick to use because there was alot of wind, plus if you dont have even ground it leaks all over, and i have difficulties trying to put stuff on top of It dance indoor have any pedestal +--- 2564864 +>>2564512 +If I saw somebody do this I'd simply beat them to death or shoot them. Ain't no way I'm letting this retard live. +--- 2564866 +>>2564864 +hope we meet while hiking then +--- 2564872 +>>2564857 +Look here: >>2564818 +It's a cheap aluminium windshield that i reduced to 5 segments and shortened. I then used thin tent stakes as holders for the pot, that way it all holds together. + +I made better pics a few years ago, need to find them. +--- 2564873 +>>2564866 +So do I, but since there's already a line to beat your ass you'll die wondering. +--- 2564874 +>>2564864 +Another oversocialized moralfaggin sjw escaped from the city. Get him boys. +--- 2564878 +>>2564874 +Yes. +--- 2564879 +>>2564857 +This should explain it all. +--- 2564894 +>>2564879 +cool setup thanks, what do I search for to find the shield? +aluminum windshield I guess +--- 2564902 +>>2564816 +>>2564512 +I'd beat you unconscious if you ever did this within eyeshot of me. You people are worse than niggers +--- 2564904 +>>2564815 +Yeah french RCIR are always a good bet +--- 2564910 +>>2564894 +just look up alcohol stove on aliexpress, you can get a screen and stove for under $10 +--- 2564913 +>>2564894 +camping aluminium windshield on Aliexpress, Ebay or Amazon. You need 5 segments at least. +The tent stakes came with a cheap Aldi tent i think. + +>>2564904 +I like you, you are ok. +--- 2564915 +>>2564902 +You won't do shit except cry about it on 4cucks like you are now +--- 2564931 +>>2564910 +>>2564913 +thanks i bought this one on Aliexpress, paid 10 euros + +yes there were 2 aluminum ones for 40 cents bit they shipped in 2 months +--- 2564933 +>>2564931 +they always give ridiculous shipping dates on aliexpress, most shit arrives in 2-3 weeks +--- 2564937 +>>2564856 +If it can be avoided, don’t bother cooking with your filtered water. Just use water directly from a stream or creek, if possibly. It’s going to be booked anyway. + +I’ve got two homemade meals that are my go to favorites. Neither requires any kind of actual cooking or dehydrating. + +The first is Slurkas beans and rice. It’s super popular, delicious, calorie dense, and nutritionally balanced. It’s instant refried beans, minute rice, taco seasoning, cheese, and Fritos. Google it. Trust me Anon, it’s well worth it. + +The second is a simple combination of dry chorizo sausage, minute rice, a bouillon cube, and Italian seasoning. I use 2oz of sausage, 1 cup of rice, 1 small bouillon cube, and 1/4tsp of Italian seasoning. + +Minute rice is an ok option when you can measure everything at home. Just about anything you need to heat up will require water, or will be pretty heavy (which is an issue since your focus is on hiking). Rice dishes use a little less than soups, but are generally less forgiving if you get the water amount wrong (Skurka’s beans and rice is an exception). +--- 2564943 +>>2564933 +oh ok thanks, it's the first time I buy from there, anyway I would've bought this one regardless because I like the color +--- 2564944 +>>2564937 +>Just use water directly from a stream or creek +yes if I boil it, but I should pre filter otherwise I get shit inside my food +--- 2564981 +>>2564512 +jesus fucking christ dude are you trying to start a wildfire? +--- 2564984 +>>2564512 +Holy fuck never go outside again retard +--- 2564992 +>>2564981 +What is it to you? Do you think wild fires start itself? +Holy shit, you don't even think, do you. +--- 2564994 +>>2564931 +Perfect. + +>>2564933 +That is why i usually just buy the same shit but shipped by Amazon, it's faster and sometimes even cheaper. I don't mind if it#s 10% or so pricier either. +--- 2565048 +>>2564984 +>>2564981 +noo you can't light a fire near a tree +noo you cant light a fire near fucking needles + +nothing happened +--- 2565084 +>>2564913 +I thought those were a package of sprinkles, then I asked myself why I'm not bringing a package of sugary colorful cornstarch with me every hike +--- 2565337 +>>2564503 (OP) +Oatmeal masterRace +--- 2565341 +>>2565337 +I take the oatmeal with dinosaur eggs in it +:3 +--- 2565380 +>>2564512 +Are you trying to kill that fucking tree?? Jesus Christ i hate you washitington and califaggots +--- 2565533 +>>2564915 +>You won't do shit except cry about it on 4cucks like you are now +Don't play tough on the interwebs, just learn from your mistake. +--- 2565535 +>>2564627 +right +--- 2565552 +>>2564872 +E luuul imagine just not spill 99 euro for the definitely better jetboil system poor gonna be poor i guess +--- 2565566 +>>2565552 +This man has a stroke. +--- 2565636 +>>2564785 +>100g Cashew Nuts +>hobo +at least try, faggot, no hobo eats that expensive as fuck stuff +--- 2565641 +>>2565533 +I'm not the one making threats on an anonymous internet forum +--- 2565675 +>>2564627 +Is there an outdoor manual for stuff like this? +--- 2565712 +>>2565641 +Im not the guys who threatened you. I made my fair share of mistakes, really bad ones, too. +Admitting making a mistake simply makes the world a better place. +--- 2565949 +>>2564503 (OP) +Erbstwurst. It ain't pretty but it tastes nice and lasts long. +--- 2565958 +A new stable I just discovered: Chinese chili oil. I had used it at home for long time but now I take it with me whenever I go camping. It just makes everything so much bettwr +--- 2565965 +>>2564944 +Some sources will have more sediment than others. You can either use a bandana to filter out sediment or just be careful and deal with a tiny amount of dirt. +--- 2566021 +>>2564512 + +Its never a good idea to set fire to tree roots. +--- 2566025 +Gelatin powder Is great stuff. 70% protein, high in BCAA and its collagen so the knees like it. + +I also bring a KG of Cheese with me into the bush, and just put it on everything. Its fucking good. +--- 2566031 +>>2566025 +>kg of cheese +Europe was a mistake +--- 2566213 +>>2564571 +Man, oats with some peanuts and candied fruit, or even raisins... *chef kissing his fingertips* +--- 2567055 +>>2564904 + +Too bulky, too heavy and too much packaging. + +But 10€ for 3600kcal, what a deal. +--- 2567056 +>>2564913 +Tortellini plus Opinel, t'es cramé le bleu. +--- 2567060 +>>2564787 +What’s the goyslop he’s asking them to eat? What’s even the point of this post other than to seethe about a mental argument you’re having with yourself? +--- 2567084 +>>2564856 +The good news is that on shorter trips you can be very flexible as you're not trying to cram a weeks worth of food into your bag. Worry a little less about weight of the food and focus on dietary needs, quality, and ease of cooking. + +For long, moderate activity like hiking I tend to lean towards focus on quick and easy complex carbs with a little fat and protein. I have a water tight cooking set up so I will often do cold soak oatmeal for the morning with milk powder or granola and peanut butter. I don't want to heat up anything more than a few oz of water for coffee and get moving faster. During the day I try to avoid an extended lunch break, hiking with a full stomach just makes my afternoon hike slower so bars, fruit snacks, etc. during the day about every 2hrs. Sometimes a tortilla with something (usually the same meat for dinner) if I'm actually stopping. + +Dinner is the big one. If you use rice, get the 5min stuff. Instant mash potatoes, pasta sides, etc are popular because they are cheap, flavorful, and cook fast. They are easy to dress up by adding dry spices, a little hot sauce bottle/packets, etc. I will often bring a bag of dry veggies to toss in and sausage of some kind. I also don't cook by boiling in my cook pot, canister stoves kinda suck for that. I have a separate, sealable cook pot that has a reflectix coozie. Boil the water, pour over the rice, stir, seal, wait 10-15min. Saves me fuel and I just busy myself with something else while waiting. Due to duration of your hikes, you can absolutely get away with canned stuff, just make it cans you like. I like fish in a good sauce to go over the rice, or flavored meat spreads. Experiment at home too. Don't neglect a little desert either, candy bars and hot chocolate mix are good morale boosters. +--- 2567096 +>>2564856 +>>2567084 +Also unless temps make it a challenge, don't be afraid to eat fresh. Fruit, hard bread, bagels, cheese, pickles. In cooler weather cream cheese, deli meats, go nuts. On longer hikes I used to get a sandwich and leave off the dressings, then just pick up a couple of the packets of mustard, relish, and mayo. Always consider pack space and weight needs first but especially on a weekender don't be afraid to ball out every once and a while. Even on thru hike stuff you still take the opportunity to eat good and different when you can, no reason to make it suck if it doesn't have to. +--- 2568362 +>>2567056 +What? I don't speak baguette. +--- 2568379 +Find some morels, wild garlic and nettles, congratulation you now have yourself a delicious meal. +Works well enough if you're familiar with the area you're camping/hiking in, at least for finding morels, nettles and wild garlic aren't difficult to find. +--- 2568383 +>>2565641 +If I see you in the process of causing a root fire, I'm shoving my trekking pole so far up your ass... I don't know where to take this metaphor from here, but I'll shove it up there real good, so here's a poem to make up for the metaphor: roses are red, violets are blue, I'll use my trekking pole to sodomize you. Oh I know, I'll shove both of them up there so far you can hear them clicking together when you talk. +--- 2568465 +>>2568383 +Rose's are red, violets are blue, come at me and I'll fucking shoot you. I'll shoot your faggot dog if you have one as well. +--- 2568489 +>>2568465 +Ah, it's you. What a surprise the faggot who masturbates to the thought of shooting dogs also fantasizes about starting wildfires. +--- 2568501 +>>2564503 (OP) +I wish rice wasn't such a bitch to wash desu. They're pretty neat +--- 2568502 +>>2568489 +Not that anon, just anon who has no issue with shooting you. Again, come at me faggot. +--- 2568506 +>>2568502 +Don't worry, if I see you setting a brushfire, you won't see me coming before it's too late. +--- 2568554 +I recommend getting this self suffiecent backyard book. One of the best hard copies I could find. It goes over everything from water collection, a few important medicinal plants, on site electrical generation, food cultivation and preservation etc + +https://www.digistore24.com/redir/379127/approved123/ diff --git a/out/2564547.txt b/out/2564547.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fea27b6586ef77bd4f53044bf9532c399cffe34d --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564547.txt @@ -0,0 +1,189 @@ +----- +--- 2564547 +I am starting on the AT at the end of next week. This is my packing list including everything except for meals and the first aid kit contents are TBD. + +Most of my gear is relatively lightweight, and I understand that lighter weight gear exists, I just simply do not own it so this is the best I can do for now. I have weighed most of my items, but some are not currently with me so I had to look it up or guess, I tried to slightly overestimate the unknown weights of items. + +The items marked with a star are items I am considering dropping. I am considering dropping the fero rod, I usually carry one for fire redundancy purposes since I live in a cold area, but since I will be in the warm east near civilization I think I can get away with only a bic lighter. + +As far as the first aid kit I am thinking about having just basic boo boo stuff, and foot care items, and beyond that only just enough stuff to get me to the next road in the case I had an actual serious injury. + +Let me know your thoughts, do not be afraid to hurt my feelings. If you see shit I need or don't need lmk. If anybody else has a LighterPack list feel free to post it for comparison. +--- 2564548 +>>2564547 (OP) +Forgot my link + +https://lighterpack.com/r/pldag4 +--- 2564560 +>>2564547 (OP) +Ditch the ferrocerrium, keep the lighter dry. If you're worried take some waterproof matches. Everything else looks reasonable. Are you sure you meant propane and not butane stove? +--- 2564562 +>>2564547 (OP) +shit brah, your first aid weights more than your food? wtf + +just put one gauze in it, you'll never get seriously injured +--- 2564563 +>>2564560 +Thanks, and yes I meant butane instead of propane, my mistake. +--- 2564564 +>>2564562 +No, I do not have food weight listed yet, and I am not sure what my first aid is going to weigh yet. I have deliberately listed it much higher than it will be in reality so that I will have a pleasant outcome when it ends up weighing much less. Its more of a mental thing to help me pack lighter I guess. +--- 2564565 +>>2564547 (OP) +why carry propane? the places you go don't have any wood? +--- 2564567 +>>2564564 +Why don't you think about carrying just the itens that you ACTUALY use when you go /out/ + +most of the times I see that ppl carry a lot of useless crap just to have all the crazy fancy gear +--- 2564570 +>>2564565 +Jesus Christ, in a thread with only 5 responses, two of them about propane, you have to ask about propane? +--- 2564573 +>>2564567 +Fuck off, troll. +--- 2564574 +>>2564570 +caut it sound dumb af for me to carry all this cooking gear instead of just using rocks and wood from the forest .. +--- 2564581 +thread is gay and you are gay. go outside you obese loser instead of doing all this weird gay "optimization" +--- 2564583 +>>2564581 +based ngl +--- 2564696 +>>2564547 (OP) +Have fun freezing your ass off in a hammock without an underquilt +--- 2564776 +OP is leaving in a week, so he wants validation, not actual advice. + +>>2564565 +>>2564574 +Gathering wood and building a fire on an AT thruhike isn’t reasonable. + +>>2564696 +Holy shit, really? I gotta check out his list. + + +>Nalgene: 3.25 ounces. +They’re more like 6oz. Drop it for a SmartWater bottle. This is standard practice. +>bladder +Use SmartWater bottles to save weight but lose convenience. +>Sawyer Squeeze: 3oz +You forgot the full bag (or bottle) for dirty water + +>shelter and sleeping bag +All quite heavy, but quite expensive to upgrade. Regardless, you absolutely must have insulation under you in a hammock. A sleeping bag alone will not work. +>no sleep clothes or bag liner +It’s a luxury item but totally worth it. + +>cook pot: 6oz +Look for a 12cm Imusa mug and a lid from Batchstovez. The pot is maybe $10 from Walmart or Amazon, and the lid just as much. Very cheap and very light. Really you could have a Fancy Feast setup with that pot that weighs under 8oz total (it’s the setup I use). +>no utensils listed +I guess it’s just an oversight + +>frog Toggs +Trash. Most people are turning the pants into cheap kilts because the crotches blow out so easily. Any jacket is going to be too warm for most of the AT, especially later on, but you might be ok now. Frog Togs aren’t exactly known to be well ventilated. +>no insulating layers +You’ll reach Fontana Dam in two weeks if you average 12 miles a day. Then it’s a steady climb from ~900 feet elevation to 5,000 feet, so the temp will drop roughly 15°f. Highs are in the 30’s right now at Clingman’s Dome. If there’s any kind of cool front you’ll be freezing, but temps are rising so maybe you’ll be lucky. + +>compass +Won’t need it +>no phone charger +Probably just not listed +>trail map +Won’t need it. You’re better off with a guide. +--- 2564782 +>>2564547 (OP) +I can tell you haven't even tested your shelter setup. +--- 2564801 +>>2564564 +On the one hand first aid should never be something where weight is a consideration, if you need first aid you need first aid. + +Saying that the first aid you actually will need on a trail like the AT is pretty small. Some bandaids for cuts/scrapes, tape or moleskin for blisters, some meds for pain/alergies, and some clippers or scissors for grooming nails/skin is pretty much what you need. There's enough traffic and frequent enough resupplies that if you really need something else you can probably get it while on the trail. + +https://andrewskurka.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-gear-list-downloadable-checklist/ +--- 2564811 +>>2564776 +All good advice here. Looks like you might want to grab a top quilt and underquilt. That should knock a few oz off too if their down. Hammock gear econ series would be pretty quick, jackrbetter may also. +--- 2564825 +>>2564811 +>>2564776 +>>2564696 +>>2564547 (OP) +>no underquilt +This can’t be overstated. If you don’t have insulation under you in a hammock, you’re going to be cold (outside of hot tropical nights). + +A lot of underquilts are made to order, +--- 2567392 +bump +--- 2567411 +>>2564547 (OP) +>remove labels from filter to save weight +>wear 3 lb boots + +you should strap a tank of helium to your pack.. float right down the trail, bud. +--- 2567512 +>>2567411 +1 cubic foot of helium can lift 0.069lbs. So an 80 cubic foot tank of helium can fill enough balloons to lift about 5.5lbs. Inb4 autists and Asians check my math. +--- 2567533 +My experience is that Bic lighters are very unreliable. I have had the top portion of them fall apart in my hands. Either carry multiple Bic lighters and plan to purchase more at resupply stops or carry a Zippo, a small butane fluid bottle and flints. + I like Zippo's because you can start the flame and set the lighter down with your tinder to start the fire. You have to hold most disposable lighters to keep the flame going. +--- 2567567 +>>2567533 +lol +LMAO! +--- 2567574 +OP’s trail name is going to be Hammock Cuck and he will bail before VA, calling it +--- 2567584 +>>2564547 (OP) +I hiked the AT in 21. I finished with a baseweight of 6.89 lbs. 50 degree sleeping bag, tarp, tyvek ground sheet. (I usually just shelter hopped). For ease of convenience, get a regular bic not mini. Its just better. No need for rain pants, just the rain jacket. also get titanium rain fly stakes. saves a bunch of weight and not too expensive. Dont have a trail map, just use guthooks (far out now). No first aid, someone else will have some that will give to you. get a lighter mini pocket knife. go shorts and not pants. i personally go no underwear but if it gets cold at night i have long underwear that way i dont have to carry pants and underwear. also you are missing a battery bank. Youll want one. Go for one that will give you 2 full charges. Hope this helps. My trail name is Gunga Din. Hopefully ill see you at my annual trail magic! +--- 2567585 +>>2567533 +Absolute god awful take lmao +--- 2567590 +>>2567584 +>I usually just shelter hopped +>No need for rain pants, just the rain jacket +>Dont have a trail map, just use guthooks +>No first aid, someone else will have some that will give to you +>I personally go no underwear +Based and thruhiking pilled +--- 2567599 +>>2567584 +>hobo life instead of backcountry glory +Why? It sounds like you don't actually enjoy the outdoors and just run from shelter to shelters to parasite off hosts, government, and other hikers, and socialize. SOCIALIZE? WHY would you waste your vacation for that? +--- 2567605 +>>2567599 +>why do you like making friends and getting laid? +>WHY? +--- 2567613 +>>2567599 + +Easy with your terminology there bucko. Plenty of hobos would be offended by you lumping them in with bums. Hobos work while traveling or travel for work. Thru hikers are just bums +--- 2567615 +>>2567613 +What’s the difference between a bum and a hiker? Trekking poles. + +That’s an old joke that gets passed around on the AT every year. It’s wrong though. Hobos travel looking for work. Bums neither travel nor work. Tramps travel but don’t work. +--- 2567637 +>>2567605 +I feel like I have met you before +>be me +>be on a 3 week route +>be alone for 3-5 days +>then meet young guy with massive gandalf beard and soft face in an unmaintained shelter. +>talk about shit while fixing my pants +>offers me weed +>decline, "if you had whiskey I'd take a sip" +>he: "No, too heavy, only weed. I'm ultralight now. I was bushcraft like you one time." +>me: "Bushcraft?" +>he: "yes" +>me: "what's that? starcraft in the bush?" +>he: "kinda. What you are wearing is bushcraft." +>me: "Ah, ok. That's just Swedish outdoor clothes." +>Tell him I'm here to explore some areas. +>He tells me he's here to meet people and get laid +>Tell him there are very few girls around here. +>he: "I know *wink*" +>Weed smell increases +>Me gets tf out of there diff --git a/out/2564660.txt b/out/2564660.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4142f2663051806b4b151af0015dcf78413b6f59 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564660.txt @@ -0,0 +1,14 @@ +----- +--- 2564660 +Does anyone know a good way to get this shit out of your skin? +--- 2566640 +>>2564660 (OP) +Aloe Vera is pretty good for rashes and inflammation. You can also buy a bottled variant online if you can't get a plant locally. +--- 2566654 +>>2564660 (OP) +It's like a jellyfish sting you need to pee on it. If you can't pee on it yourself just ask the next person you see on trail for some help. +--- 2566675 +>>2566654 +Non-penis havers btfo! +--- 2566680 +>>2566675 diff --git a/out/2564745.txt b/out/2564745.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9a5f56dd2661f5f384a05e534d5849eea689d52d --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564745.txt @@ -0,0 +1,144 @@ +----- +--- 2564745 +I injured myself and can't hike for a couple months, so I bought a kayak as a way to get /out/ that doesn't require walking much. + +Anyone else have a cheap kayak like this? +--- 2564768 +>>2564745 (OP) +I bought that inflatable kayak for < $100 a few years ago. It's decent for the price. It's compact, inflates quickly, and is good enough for casual flat water outings. +My biggest piece of advice would be to get a better paddle right away because the ones that come with it are utter garbage. A sturdier storage bag for the kayak and a quality dry bag were the other accessories I purchased right away. +--- 2564806 +I hope your injury doesn´t prevent you from swimming, anon? +--- 2564812 +>>2564745 (OP) +Had it for 70€ a few years ago as well. It was fun, but you have to have good weather. + +However, i loved it, so i spend a few thousand and got me a better folding Kayak, Nautik Argo for 2600€ with all the trimmings like deck, rudder and so on. +--- 2564813 +>>2564812 +--- 2564814 +>>2564813 +--- 2564817 +>>2564812 +>>2564813 +>>2564814 +Nice, what river is that? +--- 2564819 +>>2564817 +The river that flows out of your mother after half of /out/ has trampolined her. +--- 2564820 +>>2564819 +kek + +First is the river Ruhr, second the Rhine, last Ruhr again, in Germany, near Duisburg where i live. +--- 2564822 +>>2564820 +the spot marks where i let my ship to sea, 200m from my garage. +--- 2564842 +I've considered a cheap inflatable but I think I'm better off with a rigid body yak on account of the gators and the oyster beds and such where I live +--- 2564854 +>>2564822 +>>2564822 +That map looks really similar to where I often go kayaking in Western New York, USA (Niagara River and Ellicott Creek) +--- 2564858 +>>2564854 +Show pics then. +--- 2564860 +>>2564745 (OP) +I have a two person Itiwit. It depends what you want to use it for. Inflatables are good because they fold up and are light to carry. They blow around on a windy day pretty bad and don't track all that well though. If you want to take them on flat water it doesn't really matter what you get. If you're looking for open water or a river with mild whitecaps (like class 1 or mayyyybe class 2 if you're experienced) then you're going to want to get one with tough rubberized bottom. You do NOT want to pop a tube in the middle of a river. +--- 2564861 +>>2564858 +From outing with the same kayak the OP is looking at +--- 2564863 +>>2564861 +Cheers, looks calm. Any ship traffic? +--- 2564865 +>>2564863 +I've never encountered any while paddling... only motorboats. +--- 2564868 +>>2564865 +Plenty here, but it's not a problem. +The Rhine can be fast, basically you can only go downstream, upstream i run out of steam after maybe 500m. +But the Ruhr, where i start, is slow most of the year: +https://youtu.be/lgPNpdEl8BM?t=12 [Embed] +--- 2564968 +>>2564806 +Yes swimming is one thing I can do. The meniscus in my knee is torn so the main issues are stuff like walking downhill/stairs, running, etc. + +>>2564812 +Yeah if I like it I will probably buy something better eventually. But this thing was really cheap and seemed like a good entry point. + +>>2564861 +nice +--- 2564978 +>>2564968 +>this thing was really cheap and seemed like a good entry point +It is. Just be aware of it's limitations and you will enjoy it. +--- 2564987 +>>2564745 (OP) +I have k2 (same thing, just two person) held up pretty well the past 3 seasons. +Also have a 15’ canoe that never gets used since it’s a beast to transport + +Fishing from a kayak on the lake is pure bliss (until some cunt with a loud boat anchors 50 yards away and starts blasting their music) +--- 2564989 +>>2564987 +>Also have a 15’ canoe that never gets used since it’s a beast to transport +That is exactly why i bought a folding kayak. It costs more, but i can just pack it up and take a train to any lake or river and get going. +--- 2564991 +>>2564987 +>Fishing from a kayak on the lake is pure bliss (until some cunt with a loud boat anchors 50 yards away and starts blasting their music) +There are no inconsiderate people here that do that, because we are Europeans. +--- 2564996 +>>2564991 +:( yeah I don’t get it. +>beautiful scenery +>gorgeous lake surrounded by forest +>I must ruin it with as much noise and bullshit as possible. + +The consolation prize is that’s 5 minutes from my house. +--- 2565000 +>>2564968 +>Yeah if I like it I will probably buy something better eventually +Before you upgrade to a regular kayak, you could rent one for a few hours and see how it compares to an inflatable one. Like >>2564978 said, inflatables don't give you quite the same experience. +--- 2565002 +I praise the lord, as a new kayaker was born today. +PRAISE THE LORD PEOPLE! +--- 2565032 +>>2564868 +great pics anon +--- 2565034 +>>2565032 +Cheers, glad you enjoyed them :-) +--- 2565109 +>>2564991 +Because most obnoxious people are to poor to own boats in europe or its to big of a inconvenience. On trails I still meet people blasting thier stupid spakers +--- 2565139 +>>2565109 +>obnoxious people are to poor to own boats +Good. The system works. +--- 2565171 +>>2564745 (OP) +My neighbor has one-he goes out on the lake and has fun +--- 2565253 +wear life jacket +--- 2565527 +I've had that same model for more than a year now, it's definitely worth the price and I got a lot of use out it. Only thing that sucks majorly is the pump, shit broke after the second outing, it still works but the cheap plastic threading causes it to keep falling apart and I have to screw it back together. Also the paddle sucks as someone else pointed out +--- 2565565 +Intex Masterrace reporting in. +Spring is here, the sea is calling. +--- 2566200 +>>2564868 +How do you get back then? +--- 2566229 +>>2564968 +>Yes swimming is one thing I can do. The meniscus in my knee is torn so the main issues are stuff like walking downhill/stairs, running, etc. +Hey anon, I once tried some water activities after a leg injury. I have a major piece of advice. +For the love of all that is holy get AND WEAR a life jacket. If your knee is as fucked up as my thigh was, and you fall in the water you will find you have little or no power in your leg if you are dumped into the water. Also, it will really hurt to kick hard. This is bad news even in 1.5-2m of water (where you could usually stand if you can get your legs under yourself). +Do not fuck around - looking cool is not worth drowning over. +t. Retard who had to get rescued in a 4 foot deep body of water. +--- 2566525 +>>2566200 +I get out, fold my Kayak, and go to the next bus or train station. Sometimes i use a taxi. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb6FykLrpDg [Embed] +--- 2568229 +Looking at picking up one of these diff --git a/out/2564906.txt b/out/2564906.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4c6a58466f9b43651957e0a35a9b9bf7a6a1f3d1 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564906.txt @@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +----- +--- 2564906 +Anybody have any experience doing seasonal work with NPS? I'm wondering how flexible the start/end dates are. I'm a teacher looking for something to do during my Junes and Julys, but I feel like I won't be able to get hired if I don't commit like 3-4 months. Is it unheard of for people to leave mid season? + +Also, I'm willing to put up with NPS/Forest Jannie shit for at least a season to see how I like it. Just looking for something to do and make a little money and go /out/ sometimes. Not many good /out/ summer opportunities in FL, at least not that I'm aware of. +--- 2564912 +>>2564906 (OP) +They aren't. It's a contracted position. Also enjoy your $10/h. +--- 2564920 +>>2564912 +Position I was looking at would be more like $20/hr. Keep regurgitating stuff you hear I guess, not sure what you get out of it. +--- 2564929 +>>2564906 (OP) +Alot is contracted out to temp services I know at glacier national park it was full of eastern euros students working for the season making like 12 buck a hour +--- 2564954 +>>2564906 (OP) +Check USAJOBS and create a saved search anon. Plenty of random grunt work for NPS, FW, and BLM always up. +--- 2564971 +You also don't have to work for NPS themselves to work in National parks, there's also concessionaire and conservation type jobs available through private companies +--- 2565012 +>>2564920 +>Keep regurgitating stuff you hear I guess +Yes, I will continue regurgitating the things I heard directly from the NPS when I applied. Your job shilling isn't going to work no matter how many threads you make for minimum wage, glowie. +--- 2565023 +>>2564906 (OP) +Depends on the kind of work I imagine. I did wildland fire in between school yeara back in college and they had no problems with flexible start/end dates. That was with USFS, but I know people who did the same with the NPS. +--- 2565071 +>>2564906 (OP) +I've worked three seasons with NPS. Met a lot of teachers who were able to come and ga as they pleased. Just need to be communicative about it. +--- 2565889 +I'm sure you can find a position that is flexible enough for you; send your application in and then immediately contact the person in charge of hiring to reiterate your interest and explain your limitations. I assume you're going for an interp position; those guys come and go so fast I can't keep track of them. +--- 2565921 +Alaska needs 150 seasonal Forest Service workers. +--- 2565964 +>>2565921 +Anon stop taking pics of your coworkers ass +--- 2565981 +>>2565964 +No. +--- 2566013 +>>2565921 +I'll apply when they stop putting "OPEN TO CURRENT RESIDENTS ONLY" on every single job opening. +--- 2566016 +>>2565921 +tf is going on in this picture +--- 2566063 +>>2566016 + +They're all wearing stupid helmets +--- 2567428 +>>2564912 +They pay twice that. Just checked. +--- 2567504 +>>2566016 +Rock humping and hernia making diff --git a/out/2564908.txt b/out/2564908.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d28934ee7cf18a2377ed1b31d71f118e6d37616f --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2564908.txt @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +----- +--- 2564908 +Newfag here. What are your recommendations for hiking clothes, and where can I try/buy them? I live in a warm climate btw +--- 2564909 +>>2564908 (OP) +any sporting clothes store will have brand name hiking clothes. +>lightweight nylon pants +>merino wool t-shirt +>long sleeve shirt +>good hat +>boots with ankle support and waterproofing + +wait for sales since the good shit is breathtakingly expensive. generally you just want to avoid cotton +--- 2564911 +>>2564908 (OP) +You can hike in literally any clothes you have. Especially if it's hot out. If you are going into the mountains and it's going to get cold then yes you need to ditch cotton and plan layered clothing. But luckily for you it's springtime and you live where it's hot. So you don't need to worry about that. +--- 2564914 +>>2564908 (OP) +I'll be motorcycle camping and I'm not sure what to do with my gear. Guess I will have to store my helmet, armoured leather coat, and leather boots inside a big waterproof duffle. I will probably have to use running shoes or crocks when in camp mode and also fit comfortable hiking clothes +--- 2565456 +>>2564908 (OP) +Really anything if you'rr not disgustingly unfit. People think you "need" hiking clothes but come on, dude. You're just walking. + +Basically any run of the mill athletic wear will work. Non-cotton for cold weather. For example I just hiked 16 miles wearing adidas track pants and a synthetic Tshirt. +--- 2565457 +Thrift shops are your friend. +--- 2565463 +i can give better advice if you give a more specific climate than just hot. desert? tropical island? etc. +--- 2565465 +>>2564908 (OP) (OP) +>warm climate +ignore any cotton bad or cotton kills advice. its correct but not in that kind of climate most of the year. +cotton is good in warm climates, especially loose and baggy cotton. +the other generalized advice to ignore for warm climates is anyone recommending you wool products. they are great, everywhere else. +general warm environment tips: +cotton good +synthetics good +tank tops good t shirts bad +loose fitting clothes are the meta unless you need wicking layers +being white sucks +you have to choose between the neck gaiter+cap look, cowbow look, boonie cap look, rice paddy look, arab look etc. +if you go for the arab look support terrorism and get your keffiyeh from https://www.hirbawi.ps/ (they have a store on amazon too) +in my experience its the most versatile if you do not care about appearances. +tight fitting garments are best in white or light colors. the color does not matter for loose fitting garments, you can wear black just fine. +i like loose fitting thin cotton or cotton/nylon blend pants sort of like those desert storm era bdu pants for hiking in hot environments that have ticks. good compromise where you can't rock shorts. +shoes > boots +wet+hot sucks, mechanical venting with your rain gear and shelter is the key to making it suck less +>>2564911 +>You can hike in literally any clothes you have +depends on your race. if you're dark skin, sure. +i'm from iceland and used to live in a tropical environment for a while. i definitely can't do that unless i want to have more cancer than skin. i have to dress so goofy to not get sunburned. +--- 2565466 +>>2565456 +this is genuinely good advice +outside of what you wear on your head, most of hot weather hiking gear is no different than what you find in the athletic section of goodwill, save for exceptionally hot climates or difficult trips. +another pro gamer tip: +the overpriced and currently very trendy "sun hoodies" are the same thing as gook fishermen have been wearing for ages, they're 10 dollars if you buy it marketed as a fishing hoodie instead. same cut material and everything. great garment for hot weather by the way. the meme is worth falling for. +90% of what i wear for hot climate hiking came from goodwill athletic section. ripstop shorts and a thin polyester tee 1 or 2 sizes too big. done and done. +--- 2565774 +>>2565465 +cotton is decent in the heat until it gets over 90 and humid, then it just turns into a fucking sponge for your sweat and doesn't breathe at all. loose cotton is GOAT in dry heat but once it's swampy out I go for spandex/polyblend up against the skin for moisture wicking and quick evaporation/evaporative cooling +--- 2565897 +>>2565456 +agreed on the adidas track pants. I've worn a pair of them for multiple week long canoe trips. They're cool during the day, dry off quickly, nice and light, and keep you pretty warm at night. diff --git a/out/2565217.txt b/out/2565217.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4f17ed7e629dc98ea120b357c4ea7aa86bff2bd4 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565217.txt @@ -0,0 +1,131 @@ +----- +--- 2565217 +Any other anons working and living on a rural farm? How do you entertain your free time? +The place I'm at it's pretty much all farmland with some small, forested spots and it's as flat as flat can be. There are no rivers or lakes nearby either. +--- 2565326 +>>2565217 (OP) +Prairies are a great place to forage +Saskatoons, wild plums and cherries +Most of the abandoned yards have an orchard +Lots of mushrooms and herbs +Great hunting +Gardening is good too +--- 2565333 +No but if I was you, I'd see where I can ride a dirt bike or ATV + +Unlike with boomers, it's cool for younger dudes to tow with cars, and still rock little 80cc 2 strokes and 125cc dirt bikes. + +Me? I like 1/24 scale rc rock crawlers +--- 2565366 +>>2565217 (OP) +I work and live on a very rural farm, lucky enough to have a river run through it. I like to spend my free time: +Fishing +Walking in the woods (mushroom hunting, critter spotting, sign-reading etc) +Bicycling to the mountains and back +Hunting +Doing personal projects around the farm +Working out in the barn +Reading books +And obviously browsing image board +--- 2565381 +>>2565217 (OP) +board games and books +--- 2565390 +>>2565217 (OP) +This question is the hardest one to answer for everybody + +how do we regain the process of life before computers and internet?... how do we go back to the analog golden era? + +perhaps you might keep an outsider to land you phisical comics, books, dvds, etc + +someone that you trust that can pick based and decent content without any political propaganda etc etc so that you don't get in touch with modernity + +but here goes my best answer: + +>friends irl +>riding bikes like the other anon sugested +>going out to swim +>camping +>start an active hobbie (draw, carpentry, gardening, fighting etc etc) + +the hardest part for me is +>if you need to pass time when you're bored and lazy how you deal with it because this is when shit will hit the fan and you'll end up in the PC roting again +--- 2565400 +>>2565366 +what % of your time you do all that and what % you keep browsing? +--- 2565545 +>>2565366 +>Walking in the woods +I do that and I run too but it's a small area. + +>Bicycling to the mountains and back +No mountains but I do bike +>Hunting +Not a possibility + +>Doing personal projects around the farm +>Working out in the barn +Not a possibility since it's not my farm, I'm just a peasant temporary worker. + +>>2565390 +>Dvd +I don't have a tv. + +>>friends irl +My friends are at home, I moved to a rural farm abroad. +>>going out to swim +No waterways. + +>>start an active hobbie (draw, carpentry, gardening, fighting etc etc) +If I were talented then drawing or writing could work but I'm a artlet. As for building stuff or gardening it's not my property so I can't do that. + +For now I read, shitpost, run, ride bike, do calisthenics and sleep a lot but days are getting longer and warmer and I need more activities to keep going. +--- 2565574 +>>2565366 +How do you not go mad during horsefly season? +--- 2565586 +>>2565217 (OP) +lust provoking image +--- 2565604 +>>2565390 +>>2565217 (OP) +You pick up hobbies. Learn how to make stuff, be it clothes, knives, or tables. Learn how to forage wild edibles and learn how to cook with them. Learn how to hunt. + +>>2565545 +>Hunting +>Not a possibility + +Why not? Do the land owners not want you hunting there or are you some sort of vegan hippy fag? +--- 2565606 +>>2565604 +>You pick up hobbies. Learn how to make stuff, be it clothes, knives, or tables. +Yeah, I'll just ask my employer to provide me a workshop so I can do that. +--- 2565607 +>>2565606 +Why would you need a workshop to make things? Those were just examples off the top of my head. There are many other things you could make. + +You know I can tell you're a PMSing roastie by your indignant response to someone genuinely trying to help you. +--- 2565608 +>>2565574 +wear a hat +--- 2565616 +>>2565586 +>tfw you don't have any deliciously tanned farm hand cuties to grab and take behind the equipment barn +--- 2565647 +>>2565217 (OP) +If you constantly need to be entertained, you're deeply psychologically damaged by industrial society. Just relax and stare at the trees. +--- 2565955 +One thing i have realized is that it takes a lot of hours and attention to make food the ol way from scratch like jam, sauerkraut, sourdough and such other traditional food from my cunt. So if you choose to you end up spendign a lot of the day doing that. But lemme tell you it is worth every hour because it ends up being so delicious +WAGMI +--- 2567772 +>>2565217 (OP) +doing a farmstay in West CO this summer, anyone have experience in the area? +--- 2568036 +>>2567772 +>farmstay +What is that? +--- 2568430 +>>2565400 +Only get on internet on Sundays +>>2565574 +They don't get on me here and I live in the south with decent amount of livestock, I've only been bitten by horsefly a dozen or so times in my life. I also don't have problems much with mosquitos despite there being a ton around here, though they used to tear me up and swarm me. diff --git a/out/2565232.txt b/out/2565232.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..945b6b067d5d325ba2076b477f719cf5b502f367 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565232.txt @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +----- +--- 2565232 +Mi find quite a few of dem yah crystals while walking round di cobalt mines yesterday wah di odds dat dem diamonds? +--- 2565233 +>>2565232 (OP) +It's "heah" as in here, not "yah". +1/10 for your larp tho +--- 2565236 +>>2565232 (OP) +Nah that's just broken glass, here I'll throw it away for you +--- 2565344 +>>2565232 (OP) + +Waguan me brudda, dem iz shiny rockses i buy dem for goat. Gimme dem. +--- 2565484 +I'm thinking back to all the minor little shit I've been banned for in this motherfucker and here is a post that's worth less than nothing and you people are interacting with it. This has potential to be the best, most informative, professional board on this whole Internet website but cunters like this have to ruin everything. +--- 2565495 +>>2565232 (OP) +This is actually an very high iq thread. +--- 2566408 +>>2565495 +>Cringe depacking inbound +Hush newfag diff --git a/out/2565271.txt b/out/2565271.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ba9c0d113c9927f1b1725e3727a98ae4c41e463a --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565271.txt @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +----- +--- 2565271 +What's a tough wool type for making a good sweater out of for sailing and /out/ stuff? With or without a windshell over it. My last merino got torn cuz im a dumbass and new to this. +pic unrelated +--- 2565275 +Uniqlo heattech is S tier +Under Armour thermals are A tier +Nike Adidas Puma New Balance / sport stuff all has great long sleeves + +Milwaukee M12 heated jackets are amazing for sitting still, doing nothing in the cold. Moving/ blood flow is what gets your core WARM +--- 2565283 +>>2565271 (OP) +>a tough wool type for making a good sweater out of +in order of durability: +#1 bison down (might be too expensive or hard to acquire if you aren't in america) +#2 qiviut down (internationally available, also known as musk ox down) +#3 chinese yak (by far the best budget option) +--- 2565287 +>>2565283 +and for a synthetic option: anything made of polartec grid fleece. +it will be the dirt cheapest option by far, the most *physically* durable but it can melt easily, and not as thermally efficient or as high performant when it gets wet as the natural fibers i listed +for a budget natural option: +any old coarse (not merino) wool sweater from the thrift store as long as its thin enough and not too warm. or military surplus of one. +or just buy slightly damaged merino sweaters from goodwill/thrift store and treat them as disposable. +--- 2565327 +>>2565271 (OP) +rambouillet +--- 2565328 +>>2565271 (OP) +Felted wool (european wool, NOT merino) probably makes for the most durable fabrics. Heavy though. +>>2565283 +Might be those are even better. Felting makes for durability that no knit fabric can match though. +--- 2565336 +>>2565328 +>Might be those are even better. Felting makes for durability that no knit fabric can match though. +yep spot on. i mentioned it as the best cheap option in my follow up post just using different vernacular. +felted sheep's wool is going to be more durable than anything on that list, which are going to be the most durable knit choices. it kind of depends what anon meant by 'sweater' which one's the most ideal, the other properties of them aren't totally interchangeable. breathable knit if he meant something like an active mid layer, and felted is best if he wanted more like an outer layer or all in one solution kinda like a softshell. +--- 2565338 +>sailing +>/out/ stuff +you also kinda wanna decide if you want to use the sweater year round for /out/ stuff or if you're fine with it being a fall winter garment. if you are cool with that, i'd really consider a turtleneck type pattern. +you could always use a neck gaiter when sailing in the cold but its a pain in the ass comparatively. +--- 2565343 +don't underestimate knit bison though +this is the inside of the hand of a decade old pair that's seen many many years of trail maintanence work with hand tools. its extremely strong, but pills and sheds slowly but surely over time. +--- 2565351 +>>2565271 (OP) +>for sailing +A traditional/real Irish sweater, with the lanolin all still in the wool. They're waterproof. +--- 2565413 +>>2565351 +>with the lanolin all still in the wool +good point, if he's at sea he's going to want a fiber with lanolin. +if he's making his own sweater, its also an option to treat one of the fibers from my earlier post in its raw form before combing and spinning the yarn if he makes his own yarn. silicone lasts the longest but you can use a variety of natural waxes/oils. lanolin + sheep wool makes the most sense, since its naturally occurring, and less work. +the whole idea of using the same sweater for sailing and general /out/ should be tossed away. op needs a much thicker type of wool for sailing than you'd want for hiking. one is high activity the other's low activity with high wind+moisture exposure. a sailing sweater could dual purpose as a winter sweater, but not really a general hiking sweater. +listen to this anon and go with a traditional irish sweater or something close to it. make sure the wool isn't processed. get another lighter sweater for hiking in. my earlier recs are great for that. +--- 2565415 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aran_jumper +another example of the type of thing you want for sailing, also irish +--- 2565578 +>>2565508 +Cute, felted wool? +--- 2565585 +>>2565508 +Neat, name? +--- 2565609 +>>2565578 +that's weatherwool, probably some of the highest quality and most durable wool on the market +--- 2565753 +>>2565578 +>>2565585 +rambouillet wool, al's anorak +see >>2565609 +--- 2566702 +>>2565753 +Fancy. Never heard of that kind of wool before, usually people go AOOOOOOOOH MERINO ALPACA OH MYYYYYY SO SOOOFT +--- 2566865 +>>2566702 +i'll put it this way, i have merino undershirts and undies (100%0, have a coat w alpaca wool, none of those compare to this rambouillet wool +yeah it's fuckin expensive but it's the comfiest fuckin wool i've ever worn +--- 2567450 +>>2565283 +I bought my wife a qiviut scarf as a Christmas gift while I was on a trip in Alaska. I tried it on and that sucker got me HOT. I thought it was a meme, but it works great. +--- 2567616 +>>2567450 +that's that alaskan musk ox right, i've wondered about it, heard they were really warm, are they itchy? +--- 2568185 +>>2567616 +It was comfortable against my face, not itchy, very thin but very warm regardless. I've held the raw qiviut as well and the hair wasn't particularly coarse from my remembering. +--- 2568190 +>>2568185 +cool thnx, i've been considering getting a beanie or some gloves made outta quiviut diff --git a/out/2565307.txt b/out/2565307.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d98ad2287e589655ec295ff82f46eb1ec4c08e4b --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565307.txt @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +----- +--- 2565307 +I've been reading about pack goats and they seem to be a good alternative to llamas or mules. They're less expensive and carry more weight than other animals, pound for pound. Goats are also smarter and better natured. I've been around goats enough to know that I like them and can raise them properly. Does anyone here have any direct experience with pack goats? Tell me the downside of pack goats, /out/. +--- 2565309 +>>2565307 (OP) +bAaAaAa +--- 2565315 +>>2565307 (OP) +don't fuck the goats son. +--- 2565323 +>>2565307 (OP) +You've been around goats and you think they are well behaved? From the interactions I've had with goats I would expect them to run off, eat your pack, and then collapse your tent in the middle of the night. +--- 2565644 +>>2565307 (OP) +There's a reason Satan is depicted with the features of a goat. +--- 2565645 +>goat FUD ITT +--- 2565662 +>>2565307 (OP) +>I've been around goats enough to know that I like them and can raise them properly. +Same. Funny little guys and girls. Always getting into something. +>Goats are also smarter +Lol +>and better natured. +LMAO! + +Goats are stubborn dickheads compared to mules (and llamas, from what I’ve heard). If they don’t want to do something, they’re not going to listen to you. +--- 2565723 +Hand raised goats are very different to farm goats. No one in this thread has been around a hand raised goat. If you get the goat as a kit and raise it yourself. Sleep with it when it's a kid raise it like a dog. It will be a completely different animal to what most people have experienced. +--- 2565727 +>>2565723 +>Sleep with it when it's a kid +--- 2565728 +>>2565723 +That's been my experience as well. Our Nubian wether was better behaved than most dogs. +--- 2565747 +>>2565727 +You need professional help +--- 2565750 +>>2565747 +see: +>>2565315 +--- 2565954 +Why not get a mule? Goats are bros but they are just too small. I miss my goatbro, he was like a dog but with horns. +--- 2566473 +>>2565307 (OP) +https://www.youtube.com/user/123Homefree + +This guy is a shepherd who used to have his sheep carry packs like your pic until he made his little house cart thing that he has his ram pull. +--- 2566490 +>>2565727 +Unironically castrate yourself. +--- 2566507 +I've also been around goats, and I've been headbutted in the ass more than once. When the novelty of them wears off they are belligerent creatures, but maybe it depends on the breed. + +I have no issues eating them after dealing with them. +--- 2566516 +>>2565954 +how will mule create cheese +--- 2566745 +>>2566490 +I'm being redundant here, but kill yourself troon. diff --git a/out/2565329.txt b/out/2565329.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6156562d9f83ce3dcdaa561e7f291c2028b20d4e --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565329.txt @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +----- +--- 2565329 +I live in the Midwest United States near Lake Michigan; what are these random sparse trypophobic holes I see in patches of grass? +--- 2565331 +>>2565329 (OP) +This is a legitimately funny shitpost. Have a (You) for your bait attempt. +--- 2565349 +solitary bee/wasp nests or spider burrows? +--- 2565352 +>>2565329 (OP) +someone aerated their lawn +--- 2565353 +>>2565352 +nobody would aerate like that unless they were drunk as fuck +--- 2565358 +>>2565353 +people do it all the time +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjkf1Kn9rfU [Embed] +--- 2565363 +>aerating lawns +What the fuck is up with you burgers? Every week I find out some new weird thing you're doing +--- 2565370 +>>2565363 +But anon, you're American. +--- 2565388 +>>2565363 +I am an American who grew up and lives in the suburbs and even I find the lawn cult of America to be strange. +--- 2565393 +>>2565352 +This. + +>>2565363 +We have these things called yards, part of our property because many of us don’t live in commie blocks or shitty flats like Yurop. + +Never seen anybody aerate the lawn in Florida though. I forgot about that since I left the Midwest. The grass down here is much different and the soil is super sandy +--- 2565440 +>>2565388 +seconded +--- 2565450 +>>2565329 (OP) +beetles? +--- 2565556 +>>2565370 +My family emigrated to Montana way back, my great grandfather was born there, but I'm fully Norwegian + +>>2565388 +I guess it's just something for upper middle class people to spend their time and money on + +>>2565393 +We have gardens too, I don't live in a commieblock hellscape, I live in a small town where everyone has their own garden +--- 2565704 +>>2565388 +I spent 3 years at my house maintaining a lush green lawn, and even set up a patch with shorter denser grass to be like a golf green. When i switched to native planting, i enjoyed my yard much better, and spending my time taking care of it was much more fun. Still kept most of the grass but let clover, dandelions, and wildflowers spread everywhere. Had so much wildlife for those couple years before selling. It was amazing. +--- 2565996 +>tfw the starter doesn't say shit about aeration and you walk up to the first green looking like this +no worse feeling +--- 2566004 +>>2565556 +>My family emigrated to Montana way back, my great grandfather was born there, but I'm fully Norwegian +How? +--- 2566007 +>>2566004 +scandi blood is strong, my great great grandpa hitched a ride on a boat to new york and I'm half norwegian as a san diego native +--- 2566011 +>>2566007 +>San Diego native +Lmao fuck off dude you’re an American. My grandfather comes from Kristiansand, that doesn’t mean I’m not an American from New Jersey +--- 2566813 +>>2565556 +>>2566011 +>fully Norwegian +>born in america +--- 2566815 +>>2566813 +Just another day on nuout. +--- 2566819 +>>2565329 (OP) +Had to know how many holes it takes to fill the albert hall +--- 2567886 +>>2566813 +I am 75% norwegian, 25% scottish, however my male lineage goes back to a boat that came to America in 1630, there were numerous scientific advancements thanks to my family that you benefit from on a daily basis, my parents are from oregon and michigan and I live in the south. I may not be fully norwegian, but I have been in America for 400 years and still retain a very very high amount of it for such a timespan. +--- 2567957 +>>2567886 +>we wuzz +stfu +--- 2568024 +>>2567886 +>in america for 400 years +You're american. +--- 2568027 +>>2568024 +so thats why you call all those africans Norwegians + +good job preserving your genetic stock +--- 2568028 +>>2567886 +Oh God don't do this. +--- 2568089 +>>2568027 +>telling people that you're 1/128th cherokee is preserving your genetics +That's not how babies are made, anon +--- 2568091 +>>2567886 +That’s not how any of this works at all anon, are you perhaps retarded or autistic? +--- 2568199 +>>2565329 (OP) +aliens mowing your lawn +--- 2568221 +>>2568199 +maggie juizee ass... dem cheeks... salacan thinabou +--- 2568224 +>>2565329 (OP) +drop firecrackers down them diff --git a/out/2565372.txt b/out/2565372.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4c9dfd77570a35700e2f89d57c568fa641a07b86 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565372.txt @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +----- +--- 2565372 +Ive got a good deal on 3.5 acres of undeveloped land ($10k) that im ready to purchase. The problem is that it is very dense, with mostly pines that are about forearm thickness. I dont want to strip the area bare, but the woods are so dense that i can barely walk through them or hunt, so how do i clear some of the undergrowth without going broke? +Ideas: have the local paper mill come get them, but idk if theyd be interested in tiny trees +Fire department do a proscribed burn +Herd of goats +--- 2565374 +>>2565372 (OP) +Burn it down. Those pine saplings will go right up they are full of sap. +--- 2565375 +>>2565372 (OP) +Prescribed burn, clears out all the underbrush. If you let a company harvest it, they're taking everything and only replanting pines. +--- 2565376 +>>2565372 (OP) +>just develop the entire earth + +Your sins will find you out. +--- 2565378 +>>2565372 (OP) +Depending on the amount of time you’re willing to invest, hedge trimmers work pretty well for this. +Our land is pretty similar to that in terms of foliage density; I started cutting through trails with the trimmers and gradually thinned it down over a few seasons. +The good news is that once the understory is cleared it doesn’t grow back. +--- 2565384 +chainsaw or burn undergrowth. slow but it'll work work with the fire department if go the burn route so you dont set the whole area on fire like an asshole. + +super effective solution - rent a bulldozer. i got a mid sized one and it easily knocked down pretty good sized pine trees probably 30 inch diameter, several at a time. All in cost including the guy driving it was just under 3 grand.Took him most of a day to clear about 2 acres, around a 300x300 foot area. +--- 2565385 +>>2565376 +You know that woowoos set fire to the woods to clear them and drive entire buffalo herds off cliffs right? +--- 2565395 +>>2565378 +It will definitely take time. You ve got to gut an easment to the lot before i can do anything. It looks like it used to be a timber farm anyway. >>2565385 +--- 2565449 +>>2565444 +These wannabe ecotard fascists won’t let silly things like reading comprehension or common sense get in the way of their soap boxing. Just ignore and carry on. + +But seriously, hedge trimmers my man. Cut through and start making trails. 3.x acres isn’t much and you can get it done a few weekends. (Assuming you don’t want to knock down trees, then you reall need a dozer or similar ) +--- 2565454 +>>2565449 +Long term, i would love to get some native growth back. Hickory, pawpaws, oak. Right now its just pine, greenbriar and gum. +Or even cooler might be a micro farm on one acre with a little hut. The older i get, the less i want to be around people +--- 2565469 +>>2565376 +Thick underbrush was caused by human intervention in natural fire processes. +--- 2565476 +Chainsaw and a brush cutter blade on a powerful weed Wacker. 3.5 acres could take a while, but it is very doable. Spacing is the name of the game once you get the obvious dead out. Pick and choose good vegetation, and clean out the struggling plants out. You want sunlight to get through to the forest floor. +Burning is a very different proposition, but I work in a high desert. No experience because of the high risks involved. Only done manual forestry work. +>Rent a wood chipper and spread the mulch around. Areas with erosion, bare hill sides, just back into the trees. +>2 inches or so thick is good to help existing ground cover. 4-6 inches will kill off most of the existing ground cover. Seed local grasses/wildflowers in both cases unless it is a path. +--- 2565481 +>>2565476 +This anon knows. Also, fire departments are loath to do prescribed burns unless it's absolutely necessary, and then only on public land. +--- 2565487 +>>2565372 (OP) +burn +unironically +--- 2565488 +Craigslist offering free lumber, just come and get it. Or maybe take a beat and plot out your land in order to keep some older trees for shade and treehouses. +--- 2565491 +>>2565372 (OP) +>>2565472 +Where do you live? Somewhere with internet at least? +--- 2566110 +>>2565372 (OP) +>Moves to a forest +>cuts it all down +why do you retards keep posting this shit here. +>>2565374 +>>2565375 +>>2565378 +>>2565384 +>>2565449 +>>2565454 +idiots. +Go back to r/logging. Atleast I have a better idea of how many retarded boomers post their logging industry retardation here. +--- 2566315 +>>424458362 +>>424458362 +>>424458362 +--- 2566318 +>>2566110 +How’s that dorm room treating you my zoomer friend? +--- 2566446 +Bullock teams were the way in the old days, they used them for heavy lifting but they'd also just let them out to pasture in the scrub and they'd soon turn it into a nice green paddock. They love smashing things and eating everything. +--- 2566450 +>>2565372 (OP) +Leave it as it is? Surely there must be some tax writeoff for leaving rural land undeveloped. +--- 2566452 +>>2566450 +Sounds like a tinderbox though; he’d be on the hook for a wildfire. +--- 2566469 +>>2565476 +Wood chipper works, but burn piles are easier and less time consuming. That's the method I've used. We clear small areas at at time and drag the brush to a center point where it can be safely burned. diff --git a/out/2565377.txt b/out/2565377.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2d0cae487183bd46561f45320191c7221e36702b --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565377.txt @@ -0,0 +1,177 @@ +----- +--- 2565377 +I've noticed a massive increase in "community CCTV cameras" in my town. Obviously, I don't want to be watched on the trails. +What is the best method of spotting these in the dark - some sort of scope? +--- 2565392 +>>2565377 (OP) +Take the schizophrenia medication, friend. We want to help you. +--- 2565402 +>>2565377 (OP) +Don't go to England; during Thatcher's reign (at the height of Sinn Fein's terror campaign) the government installed tens of thousands of CCTV cameras in the woods. The camera coverage was designed to allow police to view any rural area with no more than fifteen meter gaps between camera views. This vast network of cameras is continually being expanded and updated with new technology. +--- 2565409 +>>2565392 +I'm not being schizo. There are signs, specifically, put up to deter poachers. +>>2565402 +>Don't go to England +can't help living there +--- 2565416 +>>2565377 (OP) +There are ways to use a cell phone to detect infrared waves, which most cameras use. Search youtube or google it. +--- 2565419 +>>2565377 (OP) +use another camera or nightvision to spot them, any camera should see them as a light that doesnt show up to your eyes +--- 2565427 +>>2565377 (OP) +an IR camera (even just a handycam with a night vision mode) will expose the lens very easily, they also sell little handheld dealies that people use to scope out their hotel rooms and airbnbs and suchnot + +I use a Bushnell night vision scope, any tiny cameras hidden in the trees etc will glisten and shine like a star when flashed with an IR beam +--- 2565428 +>Get High-Power laser pointer +>Aim at camera from a safe distance +>Camera goes kaputt +>??? +>Profit +--- 2565429 +>>2565428 +nægrœ it would be nearly impossible to steadily aim a laser directly into a camera aperture even from like 2m away, nevermind doing this from an actual distance. snot gonna happen +--- 2565439 +>>2565409 +>can't help living there +just leave +--- 2565551 +>>2565377 (OP) +The only place where these cameras should be are at trailheads to deter all the vehicle break-ins that have been happening lately +--- 2565557 +>>2565429 +They downed a drone in some protests in Argentina a few years ago with lasers. It can be done. +--- 2565558 +>>2565557 +well yeah if you have a tripod and scope setup sure. not if you're shooting from the hip while you're /out/ hiking +>t. had a neighbour with a rooster and bought my superlaser specifically to attack it when it would scream and crow right outside my window evey morning, had very few moments of direct laser-retina contact +--- 2565640 +>>2565419 +>>2565427 +I've tried using my phone but that won't even get the ring doorbells - how well will IR cameras work? +>>2565428 +How powerful does it need to be? +--- 2565643 +>>2565377 (OP) +just start taking a piss or a shit when you see them and act like you don't. +--- 2565671 +>>2565377 (OP) +One of my neighbors is an uptight city lib who hates the very notion of people being near his property. He set up trail cams pointing everywhere, including a public walking trail. + +One day me and my buddies got super drunk and somehow the topic of one of mynbuddies cosplays comes up. He has a film accurate Chewbaka costume. We always joke it looks like bigfoot. Then we get the idea to fuck with my neighbor. Buddy dawns the suit and he starts strutting past various camara from about 50 yards away. He stays far enough away that the camera picks up definitely something ape like and hairy but not much else. After having a few laughs we forget about my neighbor until he confronted me 2 days later and showed me how he caught fucking bigfoot on his camaras. + +To this day still believes he captured bigfoot. Kek every goddamn time he brings it up even a damn decade later. Still funny. +--- 2565882 +>>2565671 +Where did this happen? My dad spent months obsessing over how he found bigfoot on a trail cam he had set up around his house in a suburb in Florida. He kept trying to "submit the photos for academic study". +--- 2565886 +>>2565882 +>he posted the photos on /x/ +--- 2565915 +>>2565640 +An actual IR camera would work fine because it emits an actual IR beam and that's what makes the lens glisten. Check yousetube you can find some demos. I have a little hidden camera that I tested this with and works a charm +--- 2565975 +>>2565640 +>How powerful does it need to be? +no idea. I think a $50 one should be enough. I´d go for like 300-500mw. The stronger the better obviously. They aren´t that expensive. And they´re fun. And you can do some nasty shit with them, like blind cops at protests and other fun activities. +--- 2565997 +How am I going to have sex with my gf in the woods now? +--- 2566111 +>>2565392 +Ask me how I know you're a fat female +>>2565409 +Only subhumans and roasties call people schizo. They never offer anything of value. +--- 2566397 +>>2565377 (OP) +when I spot them before they spot me, I put one leg over the camera so it is between my legs, and then slowly lower my balls in front of the lens, and swing them back and forth. I have probably done this a couple hundred times over the years +--- 2566461 +>>2565997 +same way you always did. on camera. +--- 2566465 +>>2566111 +shhh just get in the oven and it will all be over soon. +--- 2566878 +>>2566465 +>If I call him a jew no one will notice +every time +--- 2566881 +>>2565429 +You have undiagnosed ADHD if you cant aim something steady without a tripod for atleast a few seconds at a time. Get some help and you'll realize how easy it is to keep your hands steady for normal people. +--- 2566903 +>>2566111 +Thinking there are cameras out deep in the woods recording you is literally paranoid schizophrenia. The only actual cameras on public trails are at the entrance or exit to gauge how much use the trail gets by the public so the local government can decide if they want to put more funding into them, and all the one's I've seen are at knee height. +--- 2566905 +>>2566903 +Not any of those anons, but it's pretty common for trail cams to be placed in trails where bucks and deer occasionally roam to note how their migration pattern is changing this year to buy space in the private hunting zones that usually surround most natural reserves with game. A wealthy city boomer will pay top dollar to hunt in a target rich area and since you cant force the game to stay in a single place, it has become a big part of the business to set up feeders and in some cases artificially creating pressure by hunters hiking in a certain spot to make the deer favor the direction to their land over the others. +--- 2566912 +>>2565428 +Based. Wear a ski mask before disabling your local trail cam in minecraft +--- 2566969 +>>2566903 +Op said there are literally signs put up by the local community watch saying there are cameras. Learn to read. +--- 2566980 +>>2565551 +>>2565377 (OP) +import thousands of rapists/killers and this is the result +--- 2566982 +>>2566980 +sad what straight white conservatives become when they cant get laid +--- 2566984 +>>2566980 +but anon some of them are good people +--- 2567020 +>>2566982 +>angry that YT notices a behavior +>angrier that YT notices a pattern linking a behavior to a group +>that behavior is rape +>angry YT just needs to rape and he won’t be so salty +Very third world take senpai +--- 2567022 +>>2566984 +Are you sure about that? +--- 2567030 +This thread totally wasn't started by a serial killer +--- 2567033 +>>2567022 +I assume +--- 2567185 +>>2566903 +I'm in South East England, we don't have deep forests. I've found two of the cameras so far, got one with a rock and not sure about the other. +The cameras are meant to deter people from "poaching" fish +--- 2567187 +>>2565402 +I have never found any cameras in the woods or any infrastructure that would facilitate them. +That being said, I live in wales, but the implication of your post is that they would have been placed all over the UK +--- 2567188 +>>2567185 +>The cameras are meant to deter people from "poaching" fish +if that is the case they would only be around angling clubs. They don't give a shit about just general rivers. +--- 2567311 +>>2565377 (OP) +IR - they make enough heat to stand out. +Wear a broad-brimmed hat or a hoodie. +--- 2567505 +>>2566982 +why so defensive of me mentioning the importing of rapists? +--- 2567544 +>>2566111 +meds... NOW!!! +--- 2567561 +>>2565402 +source +never seen anything that would indicate this +--- 2567579 +>>2566982 +you have poo colored skin +--- 2568344 +>>2565377 (OP) +the same way robber's detect them: use a weak light and look for small dots that reflect the light. obviously you can only do this in low light/in the dark +--- 2568365 +>>2565558 +You’re a fucking loser +--- 2568366 +>>2568365 +problem? diff --git a/out/2565530.txt b/out/2565530.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e5f4b674f61a46a6989bdc7b4fb3665b9333b031 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565530.txt @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +----- +--- 2565530 +>go out +>see this +--- 2565536 +What is this clip from? +--- 2565544 +>>2565536 +It's a documentary about eugenics. +--- 2565546 +>>2565536 +Idiocracy, pretty good film +--- 2565658 +oh no, must've dug too deep and ended up in china +--- 2568524 +>>2565658 +Nah that's just the modern US. +--- 2568531 +>>2565530 (OP) +>I don't remember moving to San Francisco +--- 2568542 +>>2565530 (OP) +Actually crazy that this could be our future. I understand that some people can completely disregard climate change (Even if they really shouldn't)- but why don't people ever talk about Plastic/Styrofoam pollution? It's massive and insanely more fucked up and noticible than any other environmental concern- but we always gloss over it +--- 2568591 +>>2565530 (OP) +They need to do a second movie where the guy gets hibernated into the wilderness of the future and slowly gets a grasp of the degeneracy of humans the further he goes into civilisation. It should be a dark tradegy where he finds God at the end during a horrible painful death. diff --git a/out/2565553.txt b/out/2565553.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b2a788a2019acf62ede081ff50919eca17b76180 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565553.txt @@ -0,0 +1,52 @@ +----- +--- 2565553 +look at this tree I find in oahu, hawaii, took a selfie with it take a look +--- 2565554 +and yes any smart ass punk that wants to talk about the cut of my jib you better watch out jackass I do martial arts! +--- 2565559 +>>2565553 (OP) +Are those roots? Funky way for a tree to get it's nutrients. +>>2565554 +>martial arts +Wushu by any chance? +--- 2565560 +>>2565559 +>are those roots? +you got a comprehension problem smart-ass ?, you need some earplugs! +--- 2565562 +>>2565559 +I got fig trees in my garden with them vertical roots. Very common in Oceania although much less so in the Northern Emisphere +--- 2565919 +>>2565560 +no need to be so rude +--- 2566515 +>>2565553 (OP) +Is that actually you ? man, you're jacked as shit. dont kick my ass sir +--- 2566519 +That's really cool. I love places like that where everything just seems to be exploding with life. In my area we don't get air roots but we do get every last surface covered in fluffy green moss. It's thick like snow in some places, clinging to the branches and twigs. Sometimes you even see ferns growing out of it. Magical. +--- 2566527 +>>2565553 (OP) +haha wow you really outdid yourself with this one! +great pic bill!!! +--- 2566529 +>>2565553 (OP) +sick +--- 2566541 +>>2565562 +Yes we have them as houseplants up here +--- 2566544 +I love trees but where would a bonsai thread go on this here forum? Not sure if it's /out/ or /diy/ +--- 2566578 +You look like a fun grampa. +--- 2566743 +>>2566544 +I'd enjoy that thread +--- 2566834 +>>2565553 (OP) +There's a great Fig tree on Ford Island, but my fav Hawaiian tree is the Monkey pod, one tree can shade a 100ft diameter area +--- 2566939 +>>2565553 (OP) +Pretty cool lookin tree, thanks anon +--- 2567658 +>>2565553 (OP) +nice diff --git a/out/2565680.txt b/out/2565680.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7cb339eb8c1c94a8549d2097ce0452bf001660ed --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565680.txt @@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +----- +--- 2565680 +How do you deal with day hikers using your trails in lycra +--- 2565682 +>>2565680 (OP) +>By not hiking near cities +>By not hiking in liberal states +>By not hiking only in fair weather +Funny how I never see those types when I go on my outings +--- 2565684 +>>2565680 (OP) +>trails +Well there's your problem +--- 2565686 +ask him to lift his shirt, examine his bulge, and determine from that if he will make a suitable husband +--- 2565707 +>>2565680 (OP) +Dogs +--- 2565718 +>>2565680 (OP) +oh, another /in/cell getting upset about things he sees in his social media feed that wouldn't be a thing if he actual went outside. +--- 2565765 +>>2565680 (OP) +>using your trails +Why the fuck is he on my land? +--- 2565766 +>>2565765 +I have a birthright to it. Unfortunately doesn't qualify as trespassing in law +--- 2565772 +Doesn’t bother me at all because I’m not mentally unwell. +--- 2565780 +>>2565680 (OP) +>your +If you own the property then keep it posted. +--- 2565785 +>>2565772 +>not a histrionic autist with severe emotional instability that is instantly triggered by an inability to completely control their surroundings + +why are you on this website +--- 2565799 +Lyrica? It's not bad you can get a pretty good buzz off it because gabapentanoid..probably not the best for hikes but to each his own +--- 2567202 +>>2565680 (OP) +If I was a chad I'd compliment his nice legs and ass. He'd be weirded out, but can't complain because that would be homophobic. So he will say nothing and consider *maybe* wearing something a bit more decent next time. +--- 2567206 +>>2565766 +Go drink some mouthwash Sleeping Eagle. +--- 2567297 +hide inna ghili suit and throw rocks at them +they never find me +--- 2567604 +>using my trails on property i own +>posted no trespassing in about 25 places + +I'd go tell him the GTFO with a a firearm drawn. turns out gunfire and live fire range signs are pretty damn effective at keeping people away. anyone who isn't a citioit already knows this. diff --git a/out/2565687.txt b/out/2565687.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..416247774aab31d3274ef4454ae3b71ac1106a4a --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565687.txt @@ -0,0 +1,148 @@ +----- +--- 2565687 +Why does the trillion-dollar outdoor gear industrio-media complex promote wilderness eye-rape? +--- 2565694 +it's so that the rescue helicopter could easily spot the normies that called them with their inReach +--- 2565703 +>>2565694 +Useful in winter for sure but I had a lot of views and pictures ruined by rainbow faggots. +--- 2565706 +>>2565687 (OP) +>>2565703 +It's so that you can't hide. +--- 2565708 +>>2565706 +The flying zogbots WILL find you in your brightly colored tent and you WILL be returned to your pod +--- 2565710 +>>2565708 +--- 2565729 +>>2565687 (OP) +i have a bright orange tent that was 30% off because nobody was buying that color, idgaf if you dont like it. my tent is a very clear "this is my spot, fuck off" for literally everyone to see. + +the same principle applies to people who need to have olive drab everything, you arent hiding from anyone, we can still see you. im not there to LARP as an army ranger pretending to "bug out" 50' off the trail where everyone just awkwardly passes knowing full well youre there underneath some camo tarp monstrosity +--- 2565732 +>>2565687 (OP) +so people can spot me from miles away why else +--- 2565748 +>>2565729 +>I saw a guy wearing camo once that means camo is a larp +--- 2565756 +>>2565732 +Hillebergs are so sexy fuck +--- 2565764 +>>2565729 +Lots of people don't see me just wearing browns and some grey. +--- 2565775 +>>2565729 +Honestly dude, it sounds like you have a bright orange tent because it suits your clown-ass mental disorder. +--- 2565779 +>>2565703 +>getting this mad about a stuck pixel on your 2009 DSLR +--- 2565786 +>>2565764 +We see you. We just don’t make eye contact and pretend you’re not there because you look like a fucking weirdo. +--- 2565788 +>>2565775 +seethe +--- 2565791 +>>2565779 +Red tents ruin landscape photographes. + +>>2565786 +Its a good faggot deterent. Brown and grey is normal where I live. Just stay in the city if you are so sensitive. +--- 2565795 +>>2565703 +I don't see a tent +--- 2565796 +>>2565795 +Left of the two lakes, right in between +--- 2565798 +>>2565796 +would be way funnyer if there was no tent at all in the picture +--- 2565800 +>>2565791 +>Just stay in the city if you are so sensitive. +coming from the guy crying about the color of someones tent +--- 2565805 +>>2565800 +to be fair, its messing up the integrity of the landscape. valid tears. +--- 2565806 +>>2565800 +Its like trash in the landscape. I just want to crumble it up and put it away. +--- 2565814 +>>2565756 +Mine is kind of like a dunce hat. +--- 2565822 +>>2565687 (OP) +visibility & rescue. sorry your IG isn't as pure as you desire +--- 2565826 +>>2565796 +just shoop the woop +--- 2565837 +>>2565791 +>people pretend not to see me and avoid contact +>it must be my clothing +>it’s them, not me +Lol +--- 2565980 +It´s illegal to put up a tent or sleep in the woods where I live. +So I actually have a reason to use camo gear. +Yeah fuck brightly colored anything. +--- 2566000 +>>2565980 +do you live in hell? +--- 2566012 +>>2565687 (OP) +So that the workers can locate your corpse when then have to +--- 2566014 +>>2566012 +What workers? These guys? >>2565710 +--- 2566035 +Imagine being bullied by fucking colors. +>Wow wilderness is so beautiful, I'm so glad to be here right no-.. wait, is that a fucking neon green tent? What the fucking fuck man? Why would you ever fucking do that to me? My entire day is ruined now because of you and imma bitch on 4chins when I get home because I would get laughed at by anyone else I know in real life for being so autistic... Where are my knives? I need to batonny chop chop before my blood pressure goes through the roof. +I wish I had that meme with the nog in the ball cap asking how internet bullying is even real, just look away from the screen dumbass. Wilderness eye rape... Like you can't look in probably any other direction and be just fine. Fuck off, you guys need to do everyone a favor and commune up so you can get WACO'd already. +--- 2566227 +>>2566000 +Yes. It´s better known as Germany though. +I literally have to evade the police just to sleep in a forest. +--- 2566238 +>>2566227 +sounds kinda fun desu +unless there's some €50,000 fine for getting caught +--- 2566303 +My biggest problem is there are some really good tents that just don't come in more natural tones. It's not about "wanting to hide" it's that I genuinely think bright neon colors are ugly and yeah, I do wanna larp a bit. It's how I have fun in the woods. +--- 2566306 +>>2566227 +Come to Oregon anon, I’ve got a few acres of forest you can camp in. As long as you’ll help me with practice my German +--- 2566321 +I'm pretty sure that any agency with any interest in looking for people in tents can do it with thermal imaging. +Also, +>expecting privacy in a publicly accessible wilderness area +kek +--- 2566322 +>>2566303 +there are legitimate reasons to not have natural tones on a backcountry hiking tent +--- 2566406 +>>2565687 (OP) +It's nice to wake up in a bright pleasant colour compared to some dark coloured tent that just gets hotter in the sun. I prefer just a plain white/light grey though +--- 2566615 +>>2566406 +Earth tones are way more cozy on the inside +--- 2566619 +>>2565791 +>complaing about others ruins his photos with thier tent color +>calls others sensitive +Shiggy diggy +--- 2566622 +>>2566227 +Funny I illegal camped in a bivy in Luxembourg +--- 2566651 +>>2565729 +you rustled the /k/lowns +--- 2566862 +>>2565687 (OP) +if you're in a place where you can see other tents you're not far enough /out/ +--- 2566920 +>>2566321 +You'd be surprised what cloud cover and foliage can do, anon +not to mention inclement weather diff --git a/out/2565755.txt b/out/2565755.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3eab6d42f9fe3a1900dc0ac1f20ea3f6a0f7da9b --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565755.txt @@ -0,0 +1,24 @@ +----- +--- 2565755 +Redpill me on Mt Fuji. Is going there to climb it worth it? If not, why? I heard it's been turned into a tourist attraction devoid of any s/out/l, and I'm second-guessing my enthusiasm to climb it in the foreseeable future. It didn't occur to me that it'd be the case, which in hindsight is quite retarded on my part. Any good alternatives? +--- 2565761 +>>2565755 (OP) +>Redpill me on Mt Fuji. Is going there to climb it worth it? +Its a gravel path to the top. Just a volcano. Many people. You can do it in one day if you want. Don't expect a nature experience. + +You can traverse the Chuo Alps - google 中央アルプス . Hammock or tent both work well. There is considerably less traffic in late autumn (November - December) +You can't do it if you don't have experience. + +Northern Honshu is nice too but a lot of infrastructure still. +Hokkaido in October is the best experience. + +If you don't have any experience don't bother. You'll not find much help planning your trip online. Plan yourself off of topo maps. +--- 2565763 +>>2565755 (OP) +>Is going there to climb it worth it? +It is if you're already planning to do other things in Japan, and climb it to see the sunrise. Seeing the sunrise on Mt Fuji is one of the most beautiful views I've seen in my entire life, and it isn't a taxing climb for anyone in shape. +--- 2565816 +>>2565761 +Thank you. I'll probably end up going to Hokkaido eventually. Planning off of topo maps shouldn't really be an issue for me. +>>2565763 +I think this will end up being the most optimal solution. I don't expect as much people being there early early in the morning as in the noon or thereafter. The idea of a sunrise atop that mountain is what I'll base my expectations now, I think. diff --git a/out/2565768.txt b/out/2565768.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b0353b40f1751933e2040a56c0432b3ff1f9cbfd --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565768.txt @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +----- +--- 2565768 +Is this the right place to make threads about weather? What state gets the most rain and will arid places in the US ever see a change in their climate? What's all that seeding the clouds talk about? +--- 2565773 +>>2565768 (OP) +>What's all that seeding the clouds talk about? +you want /x/. +>inb4 but cloud seeding is a real thing!!11 +yes but he wants tinfoil cumswaping not academic discussion of an ineffectual 70's experiment +--- 2565776 +>>2565768 (OP) +>What state gets the most rain +lmgtfy +>will arid places in the US ever see a change in their climate? +no, the US will cease to exist before there's any significant climate change +--- 2565777 +>>2565776 +>there's any significant climate change +You mean 10 years ago? +--- 2565783 +>>2565768 (OP) +You can’t really look at state averages, as some states vary widely. Olympic NP in Washington is a literal rain forest and gets like 150” a year but the eastern part of the state is a desert. +--- 2565790 +>>2565777 +>implying you remember what the weather was like when you were 2 +>tfw you are old enough to remember when they promised Manhattan would be underwater by the year 2000. diff --git a/out/2565801.txt b/out/2565801.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9bb3b6e4aebabe070d7545a71d3ac26205ddc7c0 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565801.txt @@ -0,0 +1,164 @@ +----- +--- 2565801 +I don't want + +retarded bear grisl drinking piss + +nor + +retarded naked NPCs + +I want somthing realistic and good that I can learn from +--- 2565803 +>>2565801 (OP) +be your own reality show, put yourself in insanely stupid situations and see if you make it out alive +--- 2565804 +>>2565803 +not gonna happen brah I have more stuff to do rn, to much work and study +--- 2565807 +r a y + +m e a r s +--- 2565808 +>>2565807 +this sounds like bullshit a basedboy and a stacy idk brah + +gonna check it out +--- 2565856 +>>2565801 (OP) +les shroud survivorman is good. He has every episode for free on YouTube and a commentary on quite a few of them. +--- 2565876 +>>2565856 +This (Les *Stroud) +--- 2565884 +Everyone forgets about River Monsters. + +A fishing show so good it ran out of content. +--- 2565888 +In one episode Ray Mears catches a fish with his bare hands. Then he lights a fire with his bare hands. Then he cooks the fish and offers a piece to his cameraman, whose presence he acknowledges. Can you be any more based? +--- 2565898 +I am watching dual survivor's + +it is sort of unrealistic how those guys sleep on the ground always like it was nothing, it is just obvious that they don't sleep in their "camps" they just go back home and film another day +--- 2565900 +>>2565801 (OP) +Steve Wallis +--- 2565976 +>>2565900 +Dubs of bait +--- 2566020 +>>2565801 (OP) +yeah, about 20 years ago they released one called Saw, I'd start there. +--- 2566027 +>>2565976 +>survived a storm +>survived an axe to the hand +>survived by not getting stabbed by hobos when stealth camping near towns +>survived his wifes death by not giving up mentally + +"Bait" + +It's not my fault that OP didn't specify jack shit. +--- 2566041 +>>2565856 +This, and also Alone is legit though the last couple seasons have been crap. +--- 2566047 +>>2566020 +Good one reddit! +--- 2566084 +>>2565900 +He killed his wife +--- 2566087 +>>2566027 +>OP asks for reality show about survivalists +>steve "beautiful wife killing" wallis +>"hurr durr he didn't specify" +--- 2566088 +>>2565801 (OP) +hey strong bull +https://youtu.be/s7XuthznpHM?t=750 [Embed] +--- 2566095 +>>2565801 (OP) +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcsZHOD9P8E&list=PL7HSPnTFVAuFQkVzs3KzXjGXO78x-0HNE [Embed] +this is a good one under the radar. +--- 2566199 +>>2566087 +Bet you dont even stealth camp pleb +--- 2566210 +>>2565900 +Beautiful wife magically died right around the time he had become visibility burnt out and tired of uploading content. +--- 2566225 +>>2566199 +Nobody with standards stealth camps +--- 2566239 +>>2566095 +based. +The original Les. +--- 2566414 +One thing I liked about the dual survivors is that the hunter actualy can get food from the woods, dude kill big animals no problem, he nows how to, hit, to shot, to set traps and how to butcher animals + +this is the most important part of all camping, food, without it you can't survive no matter what +--- 2566416 +>>2566414 + +this bulshit talk about eat ze bugs is retarded af + +if you're not eating properly you aren't able to survive that's why I liked the show so much +--- 2566419 +>>2565801 (OP) +survivor +--- 2566596 +>>2565807 +Isn´t that Garand Thumb? Doesn´t he exclusively do /k/ stuff, and is probably a fed? +--- 2566597 +>>2565856 +Survivorman is a chill show +--- 2566598 +>>2565888 +>>2565807 +>Check out this ray mears guy +>All his videos are about 3 minutes long +>It´s tutorial videos, not a show +>No thanks +--- 2566607 +>>2566095 +wat +--- 2566620 +>>2566607 +At this point we should just call it a loss and make the place a penal colony again. +--- 2567025 +>>2566598 +Just google "ray mears shows" you dried up old woman +--- 2567113 +>>2566607 +Sounds like some savage heathen superstition thing. +--- 2567149 +>>2566598 +Ray Mears' World of Survival +Ray Mears' Bushcraft +Wild Britain with Ray Mears + +He has like 8 other shows too +--- 2567332 +>>2565856 +Based +--- 2567335 +>>2566084 +No he didn't can we please stop this stupid rumor, and even if he did there is know proof or strong evidence +--- 2567337 +>>2567335 +Steve's murdery fingers typed this post +--- 2567345 +>>2565856 +based Les Shroud. I would watch his episodes on saturday afternoons then take a nap. super comfy. +--- 2567362 +>>2566239 +I thank all the falks /out/ for introducing me to bush tucker man +--- 2567371 +Survivorman and Alone +--- 2567374 +>>2566596 +Not a fed and is uncancellable somehow. He replied to a thread last week about one of his recent vids and called someone a nigger for seething at him. Power level is too high +--- 2567498 +>>2566596 +I think he's LDS and was military diff --git a/out/2565842.txt b/out/2565842.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fa74d0feb8ea46723115f0f551e6b97523a3e075 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565842.txt @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +----- +--- 2565842 +I know most of you are either too young to shave or taking hormones, but for the few men here who shave in camp, what's your normal procedure? Personally, I soak a cloth in 170 degree water, let it cool in the cold mountain air for a moment, and wrap my face in it. I do this twice. I use Cremo shaving cream, applied with clean fingers and massaged in. I shave with a Merkur 45 bakelite safety razor, and rinse well with cool spring water. I do this with a 1 liter pot and a small plastic bowl, a backpacking stove constantly heating water, and two soft cotton cloths. +--- 2565845 +Holy larp + +Ur innawoods just grow out that beard be FERAL +--- 2565847 +>>2565842 (OP) +You're not going to do this when you are out. +--- 2565852 +So we know the two anons who responded are underage redditors or neckbeards in their mom's basement. Men who actually practice personal hygiene and have grooming standards should reply. +--- 2565854 +>>2565842 (OP) +Left over hot water and razor, then use a nearby lake as a mirror. Or let it grow and leave till I'm home +--- 2565860 +>>2565854 +I use a lightweight mirror from Shave Well. It's also handy for checking for ticks, and since I floss my teeth everyday, it's indespensable. +--- 2565869 +>>2565852 +Yeah use a knife like the one in pic rel. Make sure its nice and heavy, has good surface area, and you really sharpen it well. Warm up some water and lather over your face to soften up your skin and then use the knife to slit your throat +--- 2565870 +>>2565860 +I should get a mirror, thanks for the reminder. +Rinsing my teeth with water does enough for me +--- 2565871 +>>2565860 +Same here. I love my little mirror!! I find a lightweight mirror is helpful for checking if my asshole is clean or not. Since I need my asshole to be clean for my bf, its indispensable +--- 2565878 +Just grow a beard, and use the scissors from your first aid/sewing kit to trim it. Three generations of my family have had full beards and still managed to procreate. +--- 2565880 +>>2565842 (OP) +>shaving while /out/ +why? I let it grow wild and shave when I get home. What kind of a prissy nu-male needs a fresh shave every day while camping? +--- 2565881 +>>2565842 (OP) +Is this from American Psycho or something? Just grow it out for a month or two, once it gets past like 2 weeks it stops itching and then it's only annoying when eating, but you can trim up the mustache pretty easily with some light scissors that you'll probably have anyway. +--- 2565890 +fire is quick shave +--- 2565926 +>>2565842 (OP) +I used to shave, but it just became too bothersome, I have fully embraced my fantasy dwarf tier beard, Staunining, Marx, +I've had me beard lower then my clavicle. +Now I just let it grow, ginger beard troll. + +Mustache is the most annoying +--- 2565927 +>>2565926 +I've had a full beard for the past 10 years, just started shaving again. It's definitely easier to shave a couple times a week than deal with a huge beard. +--- 2565935 +>>2565927 +Eh, idunno, I've just had a beard for so long I don't recognise myself when I shave, I have an electric shaver and it's pretty good, braiding is comfy too +--- 2565951 +Why bother? But if you do all you need is hot water, shaving bar soap, a brush and a safety razor or single edge razor. Not exactly heavy equipment. +--- 2566043 +The military likes to go on two week long car camping/laser tag trips called CTCs. Zog requires us to keep our faces shaved daily. I use my electric razor like everyone else, but we have vehicles to charge them in. +--- 2566090 +>>2566043 +>CTCs +That's a funny way to say FTX +--- 2566109 +>>2565842 (OP) +You shouldn’t really be shaving if you’re doing any shooting that day. It increases the chance of infections or other bullshit. It’s not too much of any issue anymore, but if you shoot flintlock/percussion cap it’s worth paying attention to. But otherwise I have a straight razor in a tin and cold water. Yeah sure it’s not too comfortable but it’s easy, and you just feel for missed spots/ask a friend for a spot check +--- 2566221 +>>2566043 +>Zog requires us to keep our faces shaved daily. +I don't know any military guys, but is there a point to this other than submission? Almost all of the military rules I've heard don't have much to do with combat. +--- 2566223 +>>2566221 +NTA but it's because gas masks that only fit over a cleanshaven face are cheaper than hoods that work with a beard. +--- 2566246 +>>2565880 +My beard hairs tend to get ingrown and shit if I let them grow. Some people didn't get the lion's mane genes, anon. +--- 2566270 +>>2565842 (OP) +only pussies shave when they camp/ +--- 2566492 +>>2565842 (OP) +Ideally use a safety razor and castrate yourself. +--- 2566767 +>shaving in the outdoors +Why? +I don't shave. If I do, it's going to grow back in an instant, and it's not worth shaving every day to look neat when I can just neaten up by combing my beard. To that end, I carry a comb if I think I'll be annoyed by my hair/heard. +If you insist on shaving, you could probably get by with just a decent razor of your choice. +--- 2566780 +>>2565852 +Lack of facial hair betrays a lacking masculinity +t.Greek philosopher +Don't be a such a sissyphus +--- 2566788 +>>2566780 +>sissyphus +Good one +--- 2566822 +>>2565842 (OP) +I'll do it about every three days and wash my hair and take a whore bath at the same time. I'll boil a pot of water, soak a small pack towel to soften the whisker, soap up, ( I've never used shaving cream) and use a safety razor, I'll get 3 or 4 shave out of a blade which lasts for my normal trip time. +--- 2566826 +>>2565842 (OP) +Just let it grow. +--- 2567547 +>>2565842 (OP) +shaving is for office pussies +--- 2567598 +What the fuck +--- 2567612 +i shave my balls with a straight razor and dip them in aftershave +--- 2567614 +>>2565842 (OP) +>I know most of you are either too young to shave or +ouch... right in the genetics +--- 2567618 +>>2565842 (OP) +lol +lmao even +--- 2567681 +Shaving is for the weak +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeX2ZI5KL3E [Embed] +--- 2567723 +>>2565860 +I just let it grow, both the hair and the sweaters on my teeth. diff --git a/out/2565868.txt b/out/2565868.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6170cf1a97878f2e7e8e10be212da6a1e170c3d1 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565868.txt @@ -0,0 +1,125 @@ +----- +--- 2565868 +Do you throw rocks? Can you nail a tin can at 50 feet? Do you instinctively lob grapefruit size rocks into water? Ever accidently a window? Skip rocks on a glass smooth lake? +--- 2565883 +>>2565868 (OP) +>OP's autistic special interest is throwing rocks +I'd feel bad for you but I've long since realized that empathy of autistics is a waste. +--- 2565891 +>>2565868 (OP) +>stone skipping +If it skips a dozen times, I say it has been a good day +--- 2565907 +>>2565883 +This is definitely the worst board. +--- 2565912 +I always carry a baseball-sized rock in my pocket. I have taken out quite a few grouse with them, and one rabbit last year. My hobby is to laugh at survival shows where people bring bows and sling shots and shit. Where's your throwing rock, idiot? +--- 2565916 +>>2565868 (OP) +>Do you throw rocks? +yes +>Can you nail a tin can at 50 feet? +around 15 meters? eh, probably not by hand, but i have a braided sling that i love taking with me, fun as fuck 10/10 would recommend making one +>Do you instinctively lob grapefruit size rocks into water? +1000X better if the water has ice on it +>Ever accidently a window? +never accidentally, with intent? yes +>Skip rocks on a glass smooth lake? +hell yea +--- 2565939 +>>2565868 (OP) +>Do you throw rocks? +Of course +>Can you nail a tin can at 50 feet? +Absolutely not, but like the other anon said a sling is extremely fun +>Do you instinctively lob grapefruit size rocks into water? +I prefer to split them to find minerals and gemstones, if it's a flint boulder I always bring it home. I live near old chalk quarries and you can find high quality flint that's been brought up with the chalk. +>Ever accidently a window? +Once or twice while practicing with my slings before I built my range. +>Skip rocks on a glass smooth lake? +I wish I had lakes near me, nothing but chalk streams and tidal estuaries + +>>2565912 +There was one episode where several people tried to catch a snake and one guy cut it's head off. Just smash a giant rock on it ffs +--- 2565941 +>>2565868 (OP) + +Yes. +Never tried, probably not. +Yes, was clearing out a bunch from a section of soon-to-be-playground and one slid out of my hand at an angle and ricocheted off the building. Not my proudest moment. +No, too much wind here for such a thing to form. +--- 2565942 +>>2565868 (OP) +I don’t think I’ve ever gone outdoors and not thrown something at a tree. Generally is a rock, but a stick or tight pine cone works in a pinch. That’s also my answer to “ what do I do if I’m bored?” Throw rocks at trees. +--- 2565943 +>>2565883 +Respect your ancestors +--- 2565947 +>>2565868 (OP) +i throw rocks from cliffs and hills all the way down until they hit a path or barn. but not into water. i rather flip stones above water. +--- 2565950 +Whenever i go out for a jog if i see a nicely shaped rock i go and throw it as far as i can with technique. It's exceptionally entertaining because it's so easy to improve your accuracy over just a few months of this. My lil cousin always gets impressed by my throwing range and accuracy. +Also anyone else enjoy skipping rocks? I got a 6-7 yesterday, pretty proud of it. +--- 2566029 +>>2565947 + +Rolling large rocks down hills brings a warm joy to ones being. Especially with friends. +--- 2566235 +>>2565868 (OP) +Throwing rocks is peak cavecore. Love making slings and slingshots too, what about a giant slingshot you strap to two close trees? Lob some fuckin bricks. As far as skipping goes, I like to try to skip a massive rock, even just one +--- 2566277 +>>2566235 +Yup, skipping dinner plate size rocks is retarded fun for how simple it is. +--- 2566295 +Is this the end goal? +--- 2566309 +>>2566295 +If you want it to be, yes. It's all part of the simple joy of rock throwing. +--- 2566703 +>>2566295 +based +--- 2566811 +>>2566295 +No, that's not throwing. + +Braemar and open stone throws (from the highland games) would be the end form of rock throwing. +--- 2566824 +>>2565943 +My ancestors didn't throw rocks out of autistic retardation, they did it with purpose +--- 2567037 +>>2566824 +How do you think they practiced you numbskull +--- 2567049 +>>2567037 +With purpose, can't you read +--- 2567054 +>>2567049 +Clearly you can't, because the OP also throws rocks with purpose, such as hitting tin cans. +--- 2567097 +>>2565868 (OP) +>Do you throw rocks? +I've always had tiny hands and bulky arms since I was a rug rat. I can't throw anything further than 30 yards or so. Throwing always made me feel slightly impotent, escpecially compared to my slightly older cousin who could throw a baseball 55 mph at 12 years old. +Running was the same, my legs are short and stocky. I'm basically a 5'8" 175 lbs raccoon. + +>Can you nail a tin can at 50 feet? +I can but it take several tries. It's easier if I buckshot it with 3 or more rocks at once. + +>Do you instinctively lob grapefruit size rocks into water? +I can barely hold a grapefruit overhanded, let alone a 3 lb rock. + +>Ever accidently a window? +When I was 5 I was dicking around with a dinner plate and it slipped out of my hand. My parents were mad but were already aware I had... dexterity issues. + +>Skip rocks on a glass smooth lake? +Skipping sized stones aren't a problem. I've gotten pretty good at getting 5-10 skips out of a good flat stone. Kids always flock around me and ask how I do it. + +I don't like chucking large stones in water. I'm always afraid I'm disturbing or possibly injuring wildlife under the surface. I fish a lot so I'm very nature conscious. +--- 2567102 +>>2567054 +Getting the joke is hard, we know. It's okay, anon. +--- 2567111 +>>2567102 +Shit, my bad +--- 2567210 +>>2565868 (OP) +Yeah of course. You want to upgrade your rocking throwing, make a sling, then you can really fuck shit up. People I was hiking with me didn't believe me (retards I guess) but I built a shitty sling out of paracord and still absolutely exploded a beer can lol. Not sure what other outcome they were expecting. diff --git a/out/2565873.txt b/out/2565873.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..41bffc9f809dd1ad9454547ecce16565eedbe988 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565873.txt @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +----- +--- 2565873 +>Wool shirt +>Running shorts +>Gaitors +>Boots +Name a better hiking /out/fit +--- 2565930 +Naked and afraid +--- 2565936 +That’s pretty good but I wear pants because the catclaw acacia and manzanita will tear you up if your breaking through the bush. +--- 2565945 +where people wear it +--- 2565967 +>>2565873 (OP) +shorts are only acceptable if you are Rhondesian. Otherwise you gay. +--- 2566068 +what are some good hiking pants to buy? i don't want ticks and i'm not paying 70 fucking dollars for a pair of pants from eddie bauer or columbia. +--- 2566083 +>>2566068 +>i don't want ticks +grow some leg hair +--- 2566091 +>>2566068 +polycotton canvas pants. You're a smart boi. Use the internet to find some. +--- 2566096 +>>2566083 +How does that help +--- 2566099 +>>2566091 +you think carhart are too rugged/ not breathable enough for hiking? they seem to be the only thing reasonbly priced +--- 2566185 +>>2566068 +Kühl is popular but expensive. There are other brands, but with a name, typically comes a price with it. I’ve worn a lot different stuff and what really matters is the fitting and if it’s durable enough for your use. +--- 2566192 +>>2566096 +>implies having no leg hair +Haha baited +--- 2566202 +>>2566068 +>>2566091 +>>2566099 +https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/us-military-surplus-white-pants-4-pack-like-new?a=2215045 +65/35 poly cotton blend, less than $5 each. Downsides are that fabric blend is a bitch to dye (though keeping them white would make spotting ticks that much easier), they're neither very breathable nor do they retain heat in the cold, and the angles on the pockets make it difficult to remove items while sitting (e.g. while driving). +--- 2566338 +>>2566192 +No I have loads of leg hair, I'm just interested in how it prevents them +--- 2566348 +>>2566099 +I wore a pair of Carharrt Utility Work Pants over the summer while doing field work in on the high plains and mesas out west. They were sturdy and I didn't find the heat oppressive. I'm from Florida though, humidity would probably make them less pleasant. Still, I wear them when it's sub-70F here, preferably sub-60F. Actually wearing them right now, they're comfy. +--- 2566355 +>>2566099 +>>2566348 +I should add, these are the 12oz duck canvas ones, so they're pretty thick. They make lighter ones too. +--- 2566558 +>>2566068 +I don't get hiking pants. +I have two pairs of h&m soccer pants in plain black that i have owned for more than 10 years by now. +They probably cost like 20e each. + +Or i wear the boring slim fit Dickies work pants that i usually wear in my non hiking life. +--- 2568354 +>>2565873 (OP) +same but zero drop trail runners is my preference diff --git a/out/2565908.txt b/out/2565908.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..280e68f28550674806fcd3392ff2e5d160fcff25 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565908.txt @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +----- +--- 2565908 +I was a crew leader in the largest conservation corps in the US. Ask me anything. +--- 2565909 +>>2565908 (OP) +these people are more /out/ than you will ever be +--- 2565923 +how much hairy smelly gash did you smash? +--- 2565925 +>>2565923 +Had a gf in the conservation corps. The male to female ratio was about 70/30. +--- 2565937 +I was part of the California Conservation Corps (CCC) back in July 2019- August 2020. Easily the greatest year of my life. I was out in Northern California in a small town called Fortuna in Humboldt County. We did all sort of projects including habitat restorations, invasive plant removal, fire restoration, chainsaw work, and a few others. I did a bunch of volunteer work and stuff outside of work and it really gave me a real sense of discipline and a need for hard work I never had within my 20 years of life (at the time). It really changed my outlook on life and helped me for the better. I miss it everyday +--- 2565946 +>>2565937 +Yeah the Cs were pretty great. +--- 2565952 +>>2565925 +answe the damn question +--- 2566037 +>>2565937 +How are the people? Do you find its easy to make friends on the crew? Does everyone usually get a long? Its a lot of time to spend in the backcountry with random people +--- 2566148 +>>2565908 (OP) +I was gonna apply this year and didn't +How was the work? Just digging firelines and such or were there some actually interesting things? + +I might still next year, but debating it with a seasonal forester position +--- 2566287 +>>2566148 +I was with the California Conservation Corps, it's probably different in other states. The work was varied enough to avoid boredom but some jobs just sucked, like pouring and finishing 1500 cubic yards of concrete in the middle of summer, or being the ground crew for CalTrans tree guys on 30 miles of I-5. Luckily, there's plenty of floods to sandbag and wildfires to mop up. Mostly, it seemed we were the go-to trail building crew for a large area in Northern California, which suited me fine. I also went backcountry to work on trails in Yosemite, and I was assigned to a crew that worked on a coastal nature preserve. It's definitely worth the low pay. +--- 2566293 +>>2566037 +The crews I was on were tight. Pretty much everybody got along well, if there was a problem child they'd be canned with a quickness. +--- 2566330 +>>2565937 +>Easily the greatest year of my life +Same, wish I did it more instead of chasing better paying jobs but I'm in my late 20's now. I was in NCCC in 2017-2018. We bounced from Northern Cali doing trail maintenance and post-fire restoration, to Bozeman, MT helping to build housing, and then back to Northern Cali to do prescribed fires and project work around a forest. +Gave me a great worth ethic instead of gaming all day and showed me parts of the US I would never have seen since I never traveled anywhere as a kid. It gave me all the certifications to work a couple seasons in wildland firefighting. +I recommend it to everyone. +>>2566148 +I'd say if you have any interest in doing conservation corps despite the low pay, I would recommend that before a seasonal forestry position. There's also AmeriCorps St Louis which is an Emergency Response Team - less backcountry type work but you'll still get opportunity to do wildland fire. +These programs are really fun when you're young but if you're older and like being treated like an adult/having more freedom, then I'd recommend just going seasonal forestry. +--- 2566363 +>>2566330 +Do you think there is better opportunity for career advancement working a seasonal position for the forest service or doing one of those conservation corps positions? I was going to join a crew for American Conservation Experience but then I applied to forest service jobs and got a ton of offers and they pay better. +--- 2566443 +>>2565925 +Damn. I did a season with Southwest CC. 100% dudes. Other crews got luckier. + +I built like 100 yards of the AZT, so yay I guess. +--- 2566447 +>>2566363 +Not that anon, but several of my crew immediately hired on with the NFS as wildland firefighters after leaving the corps. Another hired on as a fish and game warden despite no college and no law enforcement experience. So it seems to be a good way to move to a different agency. +--- 2566449 +>>2566443 +Every bit helps. +--- 2566837 +>>2566363 +Way more advancement in the Forest Service and related agencies. Start out as a seasonal or look into the Apprentice program to move into a permanent position. Conservation corps experience and networking definitely transfers over though - a lot of federal agencies sponsor them and hire people from them. I met so many BLM and Forest Service employees in NCCC and got references and tips on applying. +The federal agencies have been hurting for numbers lately so you're almost guaranteed a job if you apply on USAJobs and get through resume screening. +Search for park ranger, trail maintenance, or 0462 for Forestry Tech and Fire positions. +--- 2566842 +>>2565937 +Sounds like a dream. I wish this was a possibility in Europe. +--- 2566880 +>>2566837 +Yeah I did get a position on a botany crew in a forest. I'll be treating invasive plants mostly. I got offer many trails and fire positions but they don't seem worth it for career prospects. From reading online, it seems like its hard to get a permanent position in federal agencies. I think I could have an easier time getting something for the state, or a private company, or a small park district eventually +--- 2566882 +>>2565909 +Funny, that's how I feel about the majority of nu-/out/ after having worked outside for more time than some of the posters here have been alive. +--- 2566904 +It looks fun, but I'm too old apparently. Why the age limit? +--- 2566907 +>>2566904 +Because these programs are set up as a way to direct urban kids toward a somewhat more meaningful existence. +--- 2567116 +>>2565908 (OP) +What kind of gear do you recommend for conservation corps? Cheaper stuff to easily replace or expensive more durable stuff? For example, have cheap rain gear(frogg toggs) that I barely use because I dont hike in the rain. I'm assuming now that we will be working in the rain so these might not hold up. Should I spend a lot on a more dependable rain set or will they get torn up? Any specific rain gear recommendations for backcountry work? +--- 2567159 +>>2567116 +Boots suitable for wildland firefighting such as Whites or Wesco, or Red Wing Loggers if you won't be on fires. Plan on spending at least $400 for boots, anything less will be more expensive in the long run because you'll just end up buying a quality boot after destroying your cheap boots in the first two months. Do not buy any boot with gore tex or other waterproof liner, it'll leak within a month anyway. + +Rain gear: PVC or heavy duty PU coated bibs and rain jacket. You'll spend a few hundred on a decent set but again, if you cheap out you'll destroy them in a day of clearing brambles or brush, or serious trail work. + +Pants: Loose jeans or poly-cotton outdoor work pants, but no poly allowed on a fire because it'll melt to your skin. You'll be issued Nomex fire gear for fires. You'll also be issued a helmet and maybe goggles but bring sunglasses. + +Leather work gloves, whatever fits. You'll need a few pair. + +You'll need a pack to carry your rain gear, water, lunch, first aid, and stuff like chainsaw bibs, extra saw chains, and files. It'll get oily, greasy, muddy and generally beat up so don't bring an expensive pack, but make sure it can take a beating. + +You'll need sunscreen, lots of NSAIDS, a blister kit, lots of good socks, etc. I'd bring a fleece jacket, no gore tex or other lightweight stuff. Take care of your boots and they'll take care of you. Also, get fit enough to carry a shovel in one hand and a McLeod in the other with 30 pounds on your back up two miles of steep trail every day. Do lots of pushups, crunches, and run two miles in the morning and two miles in the evening. + +I'm sure there are conservation corps programs that are designed for today's special snowflakes but why bother? The fun shit is always the hardest. +--- 2567178 +>>2567159 +I wont be doing trail work. I got on crew as a "habitat restoration member" It sounds like I will be spraying invasives and helping with plant and wild life surveys. So I will still be hiking in rugged terrain and the hitches are long, 8 days on 6 days off. No construction or fire or anything. + +Would you still suggest heavy duty bibs and a jacket over a gore tex rain suit for a job like that? If so, whats a good durable rain suit that can be packed relatively easy? I'm assuming I dont need to carry a weeks worth of food since we use a truck or mules to pack stuff in so I was planning on using an old 32 liter pack. I have to pack my sleep system, clothes, toiletries, and everything else besides food. I think some bibs and a jacket like you're suggesting might be too bulky. + +I was planning on using my Salomon GTX 4d boots. They seem good enough. +--- 2567219 +>>2565908 (OP) +Conservation corps is know for terrible leadership, why haven't your skills gotten you a job somewhere else? +--- 2567237 +>>2567178 +Gotcha. I guess it depends on how brutal the work is and what the climate is; I'd talk to the corps about what they recommend and go with that. If you'll be exposed to gnarly summer thundershowers at a higher altitude I'd still go with a waterproof PVC or PU coated jacket (and maybe rain bibs or pants) but in a lightweight design -- roll it up and strap it to your pack. Once you get to spike camp and shed a lot of weight, carrying heavy rain gear on the daily marches to the restoration area won't be as bad as you think. I definitely wouldn't bring gore tex (or any other hiking raingear) if you bring PVC or PU raingear. Your GTX boots will probably be fine; if they start breaking down you'll have enough time to get some new ones. Sounds like you're gonna have fun! +--- 2567576 +>>2565923 +My exgf that was in a CC was in such good shape. Big blonde German girl. The way her abs would roll like a wave when she'd cum... fuggg. +--- 2568037 +>>2565908 (OP) +There is absolutely no reason for them to have mud on their face besides doing it for the photo. +t. Worked all day in the mud and rain this week +--- 2568040 +>>2568037 +Don't underestimate the clumsiness of women diff --git a/out/2565931.txt b/out/2565931.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..46bdb6f018c9e7e314cd36296e5ea5da19d99ce9 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565931.txt @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +----- +--- 2565931 +>finally my ankles are secured and im not going to snap them if i accidentally step on a rock +--- 2565932 +>burn in hell you ankle snapping trail runners +--- 2565933 +>W-w-where are those people's shoes? Honey, i think i just broke my ankle. +--- 2565971 +>Breaks knee instead +--- 2565986 +>>2565931 (OP) +>imblying this isn't just your foot fetish thread +--- 2565993 +>>2565933 +Shame that the one with the sexiest legs had to ruin them with tattoos +--- 2567065 +Ankle snapping ultralighters get out of my sight. +--- 2567070 +>>2567065 +Curious, its usually only people whose feet are too weak to wear boots that complain about other peoples choice of footwear. + +The only explanation I can come up with is that you are a fag, with faggy feet, and surplus boots you're unable to wear for more than 15 miles. +--- 2567085 +>>2565931 (OP) +I try to convince people to neglect ankle support because I secretly want them to end up in the hospital promising themselves never to hike again. Having less people on the trail is always a win. + +Pic related is what I see all day everyday during tourist season. +--- 2567093 +>>2567085 +Where do you live? +--- 2567100 +>>2567070 +Strong feet dont need extra support. +--- 2567109 +>>2567093 +WI, near Devil's Lake State park. 2 million or more tourists annually. Most of them are from Madison, Milwaukee, and Chicago, but thousands of seasonal workers come from all over the world to work in the Wisconsin Dells and they all end up at the park eventually. On the positive side I really enjoy being able to casually talk face to face with people from every continent in a single month. I just wish the Hispanics would leave their stereo backpacks at home. I can always smell the Arabs/Indians before I see them on trails hiking up the bluffs in loafers. Once in a while a hippy chick wearing next to nothing will pass me and I'll look back to ask her how far the trailhead is (I've been hiking there since I was 8 lol) + +On the topic of ankle support, people lose their footing out on the bluffs like it's trending on Tik Tok. The local ER gets packed with college kids every summer. Someone dies almost every year. One guy went free climbing alone, fell and broke his spine, sat there fully conscious for 2 days before dying, 100 ft from a common trail. I see people hop up the boulders everday I'm there like "let's see how this ends lmao". +--- 2567114 +>>2567109 +To be fair, even though I live there and know the risk I went boulder clmibing alone a couple of times. The second time I fell and wedged my leg between two boulders and I was like "I can't continue being this stupid". +--- 2567117 +>>2567100 +You don't wear boots for extra support. Only old faggots and women do that. +--- 2567123 +>>2567117 +boots are for the stiff "platform" they provide, cushioning against the ground and against cold wet. If you need ankle support something is wrong with your feet. +--- 2567150 +>>2567117 +>>2567123 +You're gatekeeping the act of walking. +--- 2567165 +>You're gatekeeping the act of walking. +--- 2567171 +>>2567109 +Nice. I have stopped going to devil's lake because the amount of tourists is making the parking situation unbearable. The boulders are fun to climb, but only retards try to do the vertical cliffs without gear. +These days the closest I get there is dove hunting in the field before the turn by the apple orchard. I'm pretty sure out of towners aren't used to it and it spooks the hell out of them. +--- 2567181 +>>2567150 +Welcome to /out/ +--- 2567215 +Based romper stomper. diff --git a/out/2565948.txt b/out/2565948.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d2b8219498d4dae1e09ec625667f8bd93872c9d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565948.txt @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@ +----- +--- 2565948 +Gonna get lots of lavender this year, what do i do with it? I have some bouquets hanging in my garderobe to make it smell lavender but aside from that what is there to do? +--- 2565953 +>>2565948 (OP) +>>Soap (sell at a steep price to retarded urbanites) +>>Essential oils (sell at a steep price to retarded urbanites) + +Idk anon. What can you do with lavender? +--- 2565959 +>>2565953 +I'd be more interested in having it for myself or giving it away to my friends than making a commercial product out of it. Is making essential oil hard? What do you even do with it? Spray it on yourself to smell lovely? +--- 2566667 +>>2565948 (OP) +buy a still and extract the oil. diff --git a/out/2565983.txt b/out/2565983.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..56a83423a4c832ddd3875af7acad2060618f2a3a --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2565983.txt @@ -0,0 +1,44 @@ +----- +--- 2565983 +64 years old man rescued after 35 days lost in Brazil's amazon rainforest. + +https://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidiano/ultimas-noticias/2023/04/11/homem-salvo-35-dias-perdido.htm + +He entered the forest after an argue with his family. All he had was a plastic bag. I'm curious about what kind of technics did he used to last so long, but unfortunately there's no further information about the case so far. + +What's the longest time you've spend while /out/? +--- 2566003 +>>2565983 (OP) +35 days is short enough that you can find a water source and just lay down until someone comes to rescue you. +--- 2566033 +>>2565983 (OP) +>all he had in his possession was a bible and a bag +The lord protected him +--- 2566163 +>>2565983 (OP) +>after an argument with his family +Proverbs 21:19 +--- 2566193 +>>2566163 +Amen. +--- 2566305 +>>2565983 (OP) +honestly, if he was in alright health other than being moderately overweight at the start, and he found ok water, just sitting in place and avoiding moving too much in a warm to tepid environment wouldn't be that shocking to last 30-40 days, +--- 2566510 +>>2565983 (OP) +Ive played Green Hell. The Amazon is easy mode as long as you dont get sick or injured. +--- 2566526 +>>2565983 (OP) +>last so long +>35 days +--- 2566553 +>>2566526 + +>With a plastic bag and a Bible + +You guys don't know the Amazon forest. +--- 2567660 +>>2565983 (OP) +Yeah I've seen this show +--- 2567873 +>>2566553 diff --git a/out/2566149.txt b/out/2566149.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8f3eb9f51597dae4613e1880077edf1cca9bb905 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566149.txt @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +----- +--- 2566149 +new in how many do i need for 14 days hike ? +--- 2566153 +Each has about 8.6kcal. So 20 pcs or two packages should be enough - if your stomach can handle that stuff. +--- 2566376 +>>2566149 (OP) +Just save your laundry lint +--- 2566385 +>>2566376 +I know right. +--- 2566387 +>>2566376 +My mom does my laundry. +--- 2566402 +>>2566387 +Then ask her to save the lint from when she washes a load of towels. +--- 2567578 +>>2566149 (OP) +0 +--- 2567608 +>>2566387 +Based. diff --git a/out/2566158.txt b/out/2566158.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3371a1f0ae48befe1577414dbd0b7d3e6b3ec7bb --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566158.txt @@ -0,0 +1,24 @@ +----- +--- 2566158 +its the first day over 60 degrees this spring +the sun is shining, the birds are tweeting +theres a gentile cool breeze blowing through +I can hear all the beautiful people talking and laughing on the street +and yet here I am, locked in the wagie cage, toiling away for mr wageberg +how can this be allowed to stand!? +--- 2566167 +Grin and bear it my nigga, c'est la vie. +--- 2566169 +Why didn't you just pick the trust fund baby option at the main menu? +--- 2566175 +>>2566158 (OP) +>beautiful people +......huh? +--- 2566189 +Why do redditfrog spammers spend so much effort coming up with excuses for why they don't go outdoors? Is it a mental illness? +--- 2566201 +>>2566189 +Daddy didn't give affection +Leading to low self esteem +Pharma'd at 13 +Mental illness or just low card culls, take your pick diff --git a/out/2566159.txt b/out/2566159.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8cae07cb4e6a844c22ffd7c103994633b8c635a1 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566159.txt @@ -0,0 +1,166 @@ +----- +--- 2566159 +Your favourite/out/ cup? +Mine is the large foldacup in orange +--- 2566162 +>>2566159 (OP) +Black enamelware mug I bought for a quid ages ago. It just works. +--- 2566181 +>>2566162 +Enamel, like real porcelain enamel? Had an old coffee pot with that, and it started to cracked due to roughing around in my backpack +--- 2566234 +>>2566181 +Enamelware - coated metal. +--- 2566417 +>>2566159 (OP) +>hey fellow /out/doorsmen! I need to know which is the highest quality cup brand. I currently own the CumMug 2.0 2011 Edition but it adds 0.001 ounces more than I am comfortable with so I am willing to splurge on something nice. +--- 2566423 +>>2566417 +btw I'm trans if that matters +--- 2566439 +I like Stanley with removable cup +--- 2566444 +let me guess, you need more? +--- 2566459 +This thing has been great. +Takes up no room, is light and easy to handle without burning your hands. +--- 2566511 +>>2566417 +>We cant discuss gear... because... because we just hecking can´t OK??!? +--- 2566518 +for me, it's my insulated Yeti mug. it was a gift. I fell in love with it the first time I brought it /out/, it was like 3ºC and pouring rain up in the Brindabellas and I just sat under my tarp and kept the tea pouring and it was glorious +--- 2566545 +>>2566159 (OP) +i like the small foldacup in purple +--- 2566546 +>>2566444 +Nice digits, but it's hard to pour coffee with that configuration +--- 2566554 +>>2566159 (OP) +I found an old thick copper cup while metal detecting. It's covered in runes and if you drink out of it you never die. +--- 2566566 +>>2566545 +A friend of mine in the scouts would always buy the purple ones, then soak them in bleach, so they turn a really awful lavender-ish color, so people wouldnt steal his cup +--- 2566569 +>>2566459 +Plus they also make a good autism toy +--- 2566635 +>>2566511 +nigga just go buy a cup from the store +--- 2566636 +>>2566554 +based +--- 2566637 +>>2566635 +the what store? +--- 2566643 +>>2566637 +the cup store +--- 2566646 +i like ones with lids so i can put delicate things in them to protect while theyre in my pack +--- 2566715 +Quechua steel mug from Decathlon +--- 2566919 +>>2566159 (OP) +milsurp classic. cook and drink, cost me $2. ran it over with a car, no problem. unkillable. +--- 2566964 +>>2566919 +>cook +you should limit how much you expose aluminium to heat for food or drink, a lot of studies point to it having negative health effects later in life such as alzheimers, no consensus on exposure ammount though, but best avoided if possible +--- 2566979 +>>2566964 +The aluminium causing alzheimers has been deboonked afaik. +--- 2566981 +which one would youse guys pick? post sceengrab pls + +https://youtu.be/A0TalLrtZ24 [Embed] + +>inb4 the edgy answer +--- 2567026 +>>2566643 +sounds like something from 'the far side' +--- 2567031 +>>2566518 +Shot a nice Fallow in the Brindabellas last year. Great place to camp +--- 2567047 +12cm Imusa mug. They’re $9 on Amazon. Sometimes Walmart has them. It holds 40oz, while the smaller 10cm is like 30oz (not really sure). BatchStovez makes lids for these mugs for about the same price as the mug itself. There are lots of DIY solutions to insulating the handle, usually wrapping it in some kind of fiberglass lamp wick or silicone of some kind. +--- 2567048 +>>2567031 +the Brindies are where I want my ashes scattered †bh + +and good work on your hunt, you should shoot many more if you can, if your chest freezer can hold them all +--- 2567050 +>>2567047 +--- 2567052 +>>2567026 +Based Larson enjoyer +--- 2567067 +kuksa +--- 2567069 +>>2567067 +cute but overrated +--- 2567076 +>>2566979 +i havnt kept up with the research for a couple years, my trangia is alu i think, but coated, i ussually use steel or titanium, although titanium is garbage for heat distribution +--- 2567103 +>>2567076 +>coated +What’s it coated with? +--- 2567120 +>>2567103 +idunno, some non-slip stuff +feed me the chemicals unregulated capitalism-Daddy yumm yumm slurrp slurrp +(some kind of teflon) +--- 2567121 +>>2566234 +Based +--- 2567130 +>>2567067 +Ngmi if you dont hang your kuksa and cast iron pan on the outside of your canvas pack and play lotr music out loud while on the trail +--- 2567211 +I was just shopping for a ballin Ti cup to match my pot, when... +--- 2567340 +>>2566964 +Shut up and let him do it. +--- 2567342 +>>2567211 +We live in an era where the only way to spend less than forty bucks for a cup is to get the giga negro edition +--- 2567354 +>>2566159 (OP) +A toaks titanium cup that one anon gift me in secret santa. +--- 2567501 +blue plastic tumbler from target ~16-20oz I think + +>not supported format +sorry no picture because I'm dumb or something +--- 2567520 +>>2567120 +Getting yourself those sweet sweet PFAs. +--- 2567530 +>he doesn't carry a stainless steel vacuum insulated mug + +Never gonna make it with a child +--- 2567557 +>>2567530 +uh why would anyone want to make it with a child +--- 2567669 +>>2566159 (OP) +A good ol' Kuksa or a simple stainless steel canteen cup. Found some pretty good pieces of wood a while back, and have been planning to make my own Kuksa. +--- 2567790 +>>2567052 +:D +--- 2567814 +>>2566234 +This. +Works good, lasts long time. +--- 2567899 +>>2567814 +I got four of them for cheap. When the first one wears out, I'll get out the next. +--- 2568155 +>>2566964 +Steel version. I have been making then drinking coffee or tea out of it multiple times a day for 2+ years every day. It is absolutely the best 20 bucks I have spent +--- 2568158 +>>2567076 +It turns out “the Science” was leading researches in the wrong direction for the last 16 years by insisting on the aluminum/amyloid hypothesis, faking research, ignoring other studies that didn’t fit the consensus, and withholding grants. + +https://www.science.org/content/article/potential-fabrication-research-images-threatens-key-theory-alzheimers-disease diff --git a/out/2566278.txt b/out/2566278.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..52bb8ba165b20fc16460435a07c777377d8c03f7 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566278.txt @@ -0,0 +1,51 @@ +----- +--- 2566278 +Ok these cairns are getting ridiculous… +--- 2566282 +>>2566278 (OP) +lewd +--- 2566285 +>>2566278 (OP) +>kneel +>inspect dirt +>grunt +>look up and squint +"forklift driver" +--- 2566288 +>>2566285 +kek +--- 2566336 +>>2566278 (OP) +White man been here. +--- 2566657 +>>2566278 (OP) +>dirt as far as the eye can see +wow... the west is so beautiful... how tall are those rocks by the way?! are they over 14!??!?! +--- 2566661 +>>2566657 +The east is even worse until the leaves come back on the trees +--- 2566707 +>>2566657 +good i dont want any of you cali fuckers to see my beautiful state +--- 2566861 +>>2566707 +honest question, what do you do in dirt and leaves? is this why the west has so many cairns? there's literally nothing else to do in the "wild" in the west? +--- 2567018 +Are those cones frotting? +--- 2567021 +>>2567018 +good morning sir ESL larper +--- 2567600 +>>2566278 (OP) +>Westward from the Davis Strait 'tis there 'twas said to lie +>The sea route to the Orient for which so many died +>Seeking gold and glory, leaving weathered, broken bones +>And a long-forgotten lonely cairn of cones +--- 2567602 +>>2566278 (OP) +>posting frotting on /out/ +>not banned +the absolute state +--- 2567891 +>>2566861 +In Eastern Washington we like to follow the herds of wild horses diff --git a/out/2566320.txt b/out/2566320.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3e49c125945d2ebee7cfedea87237c8f5a91f55f --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566320.txt @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +----- +--- 2566320 +Why is there never a hunting thread? I don't spend a hell of a lot of time on 4chan anymore so maybe I'm missing out on something but I figured I'd start a hunting thread. Post this year's successes etc. +Pic is my first turkey. Elusive creature. +--- 2566328 +>>2566320 (OP) +Nice tom. We hunt, which you know already because I've seen your picrel before. I've been hunting rabbits this winter but I don't take pics of them. +--- 2566331 +>>2566328 +Yeah desu rabbits are too cute for me to hurt. Gods honest truth. Here is a black duck from this past season. Unfortunately he was too damaged to mount so I ate. +--- 2566333 +>>2566320 (OP) +Where do you even find turkeys like that? All the ones I see look like overgrown roadrunners. +--- 2566354 +How often do you down something with worms/parasites? Is it a lost cause when you find them? Or just cut around it? I know heat will kill whatever it is but do you just say fuck it and then eat the dead parasites? +--- 2566357 +>>2566333 +This was in south carolina + +>>2566354 +If I can tell it's a parasite I remove it lol. I'd assume I accidentally eat them plenty tho desu +--- 2566848 +Here is the deer I got this year. I believe I may have posted it a while back. +--- 2567128 +Does anyone bowhunt? I'm a poorfag and want to start bowhunting because I'm noguns due to mental health reasons. My cousin and I got some good compound bows and arrows dirt cheap off craigslist. We practiced a few times then he he moved away and gave me his bows and equipment. Pic related is the best of my 3 bows, the other 2 are an ancient Bear Archery Whitetail Master and a Whitetail Master Chinese knockoff from Amazon. They're all in good condition. + +I know the basics but I don't have a hunter's safety certificate yet. I've had bowhunter chads for bosses and coworkers and I want to be like them. They all started when they were kids and I've never hunted before, I just fish a lot. Wish I had bowfishing gear because there's a huge carp spawn ever year in my favorite hole. + +On a side note I also want to sell furs and other parts that I collect. Any opinions or advice from bowhunters is appreciated. +--- 2567169 +>>2567128 +I dont know much at all about bow hunting but I've learned a large amount of what I know about hunting and fishing from YouTube. If you can ask it, someone has probably made a video about it haha. My brother is completely self taught in bow hunting. +--- 2567177 +Is hunting teal more similar to duck or dove? +Im done hunting dove and need something to replace my hunting time +--- 2567179 +I know "how" to hunt but I've never gone hunting so I don't know how you're supposed to do all this license and tag shit +--- 2567372 +>>2567179 +So in many (all?) states you will have to take a Hunters education class. Usually takes a day. Then just purchase the types of licenses you need at the agency, a Walmart, or many bait/hunting stores. Keep in mind for migratory birds like ducks or geese you will need (all) +1. Your state hunting license +2. State migratory bird license +3. Federal duck stamp (probably not available on your state agency's website, Google Federal duck stamp). +This is not legal advice +--- 2567385 +>>2567169 +>If you can ask it, someone has probably made a video about it haha. +Thanks anon, I've watched a few youtube videos on bowhunting. It's sort of helpful, but most videos are made my people who grew up bow hunting. I did meet a guy once, who blew every other bow hunter I've ever met out of the water. The guy had a whole storehouse of full-body taxidermy mounts from every big game species in North America and beyond. He said when he was 14 he saw mounts in a magazine and thought, "I want to have those, too", so he started bowhunting. My own reasons aren't to keep trophies, but to participate in a tradition older than civilization. + +I suppose if I want an authentic pre-civ experience I should just jump in, make mistakes, and adapt (while remaining law abiding, of course). +--- 2567389 +>>2567179 +Like this anon said >>2567372 +Hunting lawfully means obtaining required license, but don't worry too much about cost or having to wait because literally all it takes is spending $10-$30 on a hunter's safetycourse and if you already know how to hunt that part's a breeze. After that, licenses are basically just to prove your name is on the books so the DNR knows how many people are hunting and what not. Tags are for info regarding where certain kinds of game are being taken. For this reason most DNR and even retailers will be happy to explain the process to you, because that is literally their job. Call a DNR center and odds are there will be someone who can tell you what do get based on what you want to do. +>Want to hunt deer? Buy a deer hunting license +>How many deer do you think you'll bag this season? Okay get 2 tags +>Will you hunt for bucks and/or does? You want an antlered and/or an antlerless tag." +Stuff like that. + +It seems daunting because it's unfamiliar territory. Remember that the people who manage the industry want you to hunt so they can keep their jobs, so they'll answer questions as best they can. I hope this helps. +--- 2567396 +>>2567389 +Forgot to mention that licenses cost anywhere from $0 if you're a Amred forces member or Veteran, to around $3 for something like geese, to around $50 for bear once you've entered an application since bear is a tightly controlled species. +--- 2567399 +>>2566320 (OP) +>wanna go recurve bowhunting +>too weak to pull 40-50lbs even after months of practice and working out + +Any bowhunters here? +How long did it take you guys to reach decent draw weight? +I dont wanna be stuck to rabbits +--- 2567422 +>>2567399 +I'm a bowhunter. I started archery with a 20# recurve when I was 10 and developed the musculature to draw a 50 pound recurve when I was 26, so it took me 16 years. I wasn't really trying to get to 50# until I was about 23, but because I'm a thin dude it was still a lot of work to get to the point at which I could easily draw, anchor, and release that weight. By the time I turned 35 I was having chronic shoulder pain. To put this in context, I was also rock climbing pretty hard through my 20s and could do easily do 30 pull ups, so I was as fit as anyone. I ended up dropping my draw weight to 40# and still easily pull that with a recurve, but now I hunt with a compound. If you seriously get into archery you must go slow with draw weight increases or risk injuring your shoulder. A 40# recurve is plenty for deer, but I'd only take a shot on an elk if I was 15 yards or less with a broadside shot. Go slooow. +--- 2567429 +>>2567422 +Good to know its not a case of me just being exceptionally weak. I was also doing a bit of compound shooting for a while but for some reason i can never settle with one, something is always needing adjustment or breaking or making me feel like im holding a missile with a hair trigger. +But it does seem like it will have to be the way to go till I can work up my recurve poundage. +--- 2567441 +>>2567399 +My 5'2" Asian gf was able to pull a 40 pound recurve after a month of practice. I got up to 45 at the same time and stayed there since I'm not hunting big game, but I could easily move up to 50-55 if I wanted to. How often are you practising? We generally went 2-3 times per week for an hour each session and moved up about 3 pounds each session - 6 arrows per round, take breaks as needed. +--- 2567442 +>>2567422 +Your injury might be caused by poor form. Most people don't know how to release properly and end up with chronic problems after a few years of having their shoulder snap back in an unnatural position a few thousand times. +--- 2567540 +I lost my job so the dilema is whether or not I should pursue turkey season. On the one hand, I have all the time in the world. On the other hand I should probably spend that time job hunting. Also being Amerishart means I got no health insurance atm so if I should be so unlucky as to get Cheynee'd in the woods it'd be bad. What would you do anons? +--- 2567556 +>>2567540 +Pursue a new job instead. +--- 2567760 +>>2567540 +Find a new job but tell them your start date will have to be in two months due to an obligation you've got to see through at your current one. +--- 2568245 +>>2567540 +Dont listen to the fags below. Which one will feed your soul more?? Getting another slave position aka (((job))) to generate currency for the central banks, or to go out and get meat? To get within 40 yards or closer to a wild animal and close the deal, as our ancestors have done with various weapons for millions if years?? + +On your deathbed, which one will you regret not doing + +Unplug from (((the matrix))) +--- 2568246 +Gonna go turkey hunting again in the morning. Hopefully I can make it happen haha +No jakes, it's tom or bust +--- 2568260 +>>2568246 +Man I miss Cope, why it's gotta be almost $7 a tin now? diff --git a/out/2566323.txt b/out/2566323.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..910953c86d80a9a5ef6e497ad09c480afa5ebeed --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566323.txt @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +----- +--- 2566323 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doVV1a7XgyQ [Embed] + +>inb4 but muh politics +this is /out/, not /pol/ +--- 2566325 +>>2566323 (OP) +Not gonna click on jewtube + communism is awesome!1!1 +--- 2566327 +>>2566323 (OP) +because actual oregon is a shithole. +--- 2566329 +>>2566323 (OP) +I miss when youtube showed the thumbs down counts, you could estimate the quality of the video before watching it. +--- 2566339 +>>2566323 (OP) +No direct flights from where I live and nearly 3,000 miles away so it's kinda far down the list +--- 2566340 +Does the coast count? +--- 2566343 +>>2566329 +there a browser extension to show them +--- 2566366 +>>2566323 (OP) +Because I already live in /out/ Oregon. diff --git a/out/2566350.txt b/out/2566350.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ff7731dc27881b283f57478e88ef3c0d4ddd5ded --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566350.txt @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +----- +--- 2566350 +What do these guys who shoot hundreds of doves do with the bids? I don't think they're processing them and making them into pies. Do they leave them to rot? feed them to dogs? +--- 2566361 +>>2566350 (OP) +I would assume they take them to a processor. Or else they divy them up and flash freeze them then take them home for their wives to clean. + +Personally I don't even dress my own deer anymore. I just take them to the processors still steaming hot. +--- 2566382 +Wait until this faggot hears about a freezer. + +But for real though I'd kill for a pile of quail like that. Delicious. Probably these guys had a feed of 12-15 people, and then froze the rest. I would also be AMAZED if those were all wild quail. More likely pen raised and then left out on a ranch. +--- 2566774 +Idk but I imagine putting poultry in a pile like that so it can get nice and warm in the middle is a great idea. +--- 2567361 +>>2566350 (OP) +>end successful dove hunt with the boys +>everyone meets up at bill's house to cleans bird and drink beer +with doves you're only harvesting the breast meat so it doesn't take long to clean and processes them. it also means you generally need to shoot a lot of them +--- 2567964 +how much shot is usually in a bird when you shoot it anyways +--- 2568552 +>>2567964 +None it'll pass thru most times +--- 2568553 +Judging by how white these guys are they definitely made jalapeno poppers wrapped in bacon +--- 2568563 +>>2567964 +I tend to find one or two pellets per year when cleaning birds and I tend to clean 20+ birds per year. diff --git a/out/2566351.txt b/out/2566351.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..527e9afd1288835b4825a47c4d335def208edb6c --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566351.txt @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +----- +--- 2566351 +What's the best outdoor speaker to use when Im camping with my bros? +--- 2566358 +>>2566351 (OP) +Here's your (You). Now go away. +--- 2566375 +Sage. In all fields. +--- 2566400 +>>2566351 (OP) +I want you dead +>>2566375 +it's b8 +--- 2566442 +>>2566351 (OP) +Choose one that fits comfortably in your butt. +--- 2566445 +X8XNWR +--- 2566466 +A gun, put it to your ear. The trigger amplifies the bass +--- 2566505 +UE Wonderboom for porn +--- 2566508 +Too heavy, feel like a pleb using it while out. + +I take headphones, they are good against the wind and feel cosy late at night. I don't spook easily because there are no threats in terms of UK wildlife. +--- 2566509 +>the virgin hiker +SHHHH DONT MAKE SOUND ON THIS WONDEROUS TRAIL, HOW CAN YOU EVEN CARRY THAT NOISEBOX, DO YOU EVEN ULTRALIGHT?? +>the chad camper +hey bro, throw us another beer and crank up the jams! nobody here but us and nature +--- 2566535 +JBL Flip +--- 2566555 +>>2566351 (OP) +Go big anon, sound really washes out outdoors. +>picrel it has convenient wheel so you can pull it on your hike +--- 2566556 +A harmonica, even if you're shit it's pretty nice just to breath in and out through it. +--- 2566560 +>>2566509 +in clutchhh +--- 2567314 +>>2566351 (OP) +None. +Fuck off home and take your shitty music with you. +--- 2567317 +>>2567314 +Okay philistine. Go seethe about music somewhere else. Man has enjoyed music for thousands of years. +--- 2567341 +>>2567317 +Man used to take physical instruments and use actual skill to produce music. Now man listens to mumble rap at hazardous decibels. +--- 2567348 +>>2567341 +Naw, drum circles are still a thing, and I like to listen to 'Expansions" by LLS while laying on my back staring into space. Listening to good music while camping is what it's about. Just keep it low enough so it can't be heard by other campers. +--- 2567360 +>>2566445 +honestly if you arent showing up to the hike with rock speakers then why even come? +--- 2567410 +>>2567348 +>naw +Stopped reading there. That's as big a sign that you have nothing of value to add as saying "real talk" +--- 2568295 +>>2567410 +You suffer from autism. diff --git a/out/2566391.txt b/out/2566391.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9742ab64949fab7b0ac49f723f42f57509764c8a --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566391.txt @@ -0,0 +1,366 @@ +----- +--- 2566391 +>largest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi +>drain it because "muh agriculture" + +are californians seriously this retarded +--- 2566393 +>>2566391 (OP) +Do you seriously not know by this point that most californians are everything you ever dreamed retarded could be, and more? +--- 2566420 +>>2566391 (OP) +>he doesn't know that the average IQ of Californians is more than a standard deviation lower than Missouri +--- 2566488 +>>2566391 (OP) +Was it dumb? Extremely, of course the time it happened, ecological destruction wasn’t really considered much anywhere…the problem now however, is the entire country is dependent on California’s agriculture industry. If it dries up the price of produce, fruit, nuts, and dairy products will not only skyrocket but become relatively hard to come by. +--- 2566586 +>>2566488 +You know anon, I think I can do without almonds and overpriced mid tier wine for a good while. +--- 2566589 +>>2566586 +>hurrdurr +yup. thats all CA produces- just almonds and wine +--- 2566590 +>>2566586 +Wine doesn't grow in the valley friend +--- 2566595 +>>2566488 +West coast retards maybe. Midwest can support everything east of the rockies. +--- 2566653 +The Tulare lake bed is all cotton farms owned by one rich fucker that doesn't need the money and we don't need the cotton. +I hope it gets flooded to the maximum possible depth. +--- 2566670 +>>2566391 (OP) +fuck the wealthy landowners. glad their shit got ruined. I hope it stays flooded forever. +--- 2566692 +It was not intntionally drained, they just took to much water out of the rivers around. +--- 2566708 +>>2566692 +Wrong, it was intentionally drained. +--- 2566710 +>>2566391 (OP) +Isn't there a lake near LA that was drained and the City & State have spent millions of dollars on dust mitigation from the dry lake bed, rather than just filling it up with water again? +--- 2566714 +>>2566391 (OP) +Forget it, it’s Chinatown +--- 2566716 +>>2566589 +Almonds is where all the water goes. And the almonds go to China +--- 2566717 +>>2566710 +You're probably thinking of Salton Sea. Which was manmade kinda by accident. I dont think turning on a hose to fill up a saltwater lake is the best use of water for a state in a 30 year drought. +--- 2566730 +>>2566714 +Kino. +--- 2566732 +>>2566710 +Owens Lake, which is appearing again. +Massive dust pollution- arsenic, cadmium, nickel and salt. It blows around at 30X federal limits for exposure. +Rolling for an LA tsunami of epic size. +--- 2566734 +>>2566717 +Not a civil engineer but I imagine if those fucks can steal water from Colorado River they can figure out a way to steal water from the fucking ocean and dump it there +--- 2566736 +>>2566716 +>Almonds is where all the water goes +>all the water +>all + +>the almonds go to China +Since the trump tariffs China has fallen to 4th largest export market for CA almonds/ +--- 2566737 +>>2566732 +It even has its own meteorological condition called Keeler fog, when those white dust clouds blow up you'd better gtfo that area unless you like inhaling carcinogens in the <10 um range. +It's the largest single source of dust pollution in North America. +--- 2566739 +>>2566488 +>mfw Californians actually believe this +--- 2566744 +>>2566736 +My mistake then regarding exports. But almonds are by far the largest consumer of water, apologies for the hyperbole but I assumed you’d understand I didn’t mean all water in California went towards them. +--- 2566750 +The Salton sea is also a major dust source, and it will become an even bigger problem than Owens lake in a decade or two. Kids living in that area have asthma at twice the rate of the rest of the US. As the Salton dries up it's going to expose many more square miles of stinking dust, let's hope for East winds that blow it directly at LA. +--- 2566886 +>>2566488 +Stop growing nuts negro, but at the same time you mudskins better keep growing them because I love pistachios. That being said, I worked in produce for nearly a decade here in flyover mountain land and most of our produce (75ish% compared to 25% domestic) was from Mexico with pretty much only nuts from California +--- 2566918 +>>2566391 (OP) +Also Owens Lake. +--- 2566922 +>>2566734 +Not a civil engineer either, and fuck the LADWP, Los Angeles in general but especially Hollywood, every pus leaking cunt who voted for Gavin Newsom, and many other state, county, and municipal water agencies and departments, but everybody who's trying to "save the Salton Sea" is a cretinous bastard who is making money from this fake environmental issue. Let it dry up as nature intends. + +As a kid in the late 1960s I used to boat and fish on the Salton Sea every year. Good times but that was then, this is now, and we should focus on preserving what's left of the Colorado River. +--- 2566923 +>>2566750 +See my post >>>2566922. +--- 2566975 +>>2566391 (OP) +>"lake" +>more like malaria filled swamp +Yeah, I like agriculture how did you know +--- 2567016 +>>2566590 +Yes, it does. + +Have you heard of E&J Gallo? O’Neill Vintners? Golden State Vintners? Canandaigua (Constellation)? + +Paso Robles has a lot, too. A lot of wine comes from the valley. +--- 2567101 +>>2566488 +>oh no we can't buy almonds or California wines +Fine price to pay +--- 2567141 +>>2566391 (OP) +It really sucks knowing how good California COULD be, but isn't +I seriously wish God would stop teasing and finally earthquake the San Andreas fault while a massive forest fire is going on. +Take out the garbage and drop the property value so /out/ists can rightfully reclaim what's theirs. +--- 2567153 +>>2567141 +>It really sucks knowing how good California COULD be, but isn't + +"Such are the people who inhabit a country embracing four or five hundred miles of sea coast, with several good harbors; with fine forests in the north; the waters filled with fish and the plains covered with thousands of herds of cattle; blessed with a climate, than which there can be no better in the world; free from all manner of diseases, whether epidemic or endemic; and with a soil in which corn yields from seventy to eighty fold. In the hands of an enterprising people, what a country this might be! we are ready to say. Yet how long would a people remain so, in such a country? The Americans (as those from the United States are called) and Englishmen, who are fast filling up the principal towns, and getting the trade into their hands, are indeed more industrious and effective than the Spaniards; yet their children are brought up Spaniards, in every respect, and if the "California fever" (laziness) spares the first generation, it always attacks the second." +-Two Years Before the Mast by RH Dana, published in 1840 +--- 2567154 +>>2566391 (OP) +The entire west makes so much more sense when you realize it was populated by the people who couldn’t make it in the east. +--- 2567155 +>>2567154 +All coasties are equally trash +--- 2567156 +>>2566488 +That should happen though, we shouldn’t be that dependent on one state to feed a continent. +--- 2567163 +>>2567154 +california is all midwesterner transplants from the 1800s +--- 2567170 +>>2567163 +Imagine not even being able to make it in the midwest +--- 2567216 +>>2567170 +dust bowl and gold rush you absolute retarded +--- 2567263 +>>2567216 +>dust bowl +Couldn’t make it in the Midwest, like we said. Imagine being proud of being descended from the people who wrecked Oklahoma and were too dumb to make a living despite that. +49ers were a tiny fraction of Californians, and gold rush chasers are generally all morons or crooks who are looking to exploit the morons. +--- 2567272 +>>2566488 +the washington/oregon/idaho trifecta completely mogs california in terms of agriculture +--- 2567276 +>>2567272 +>in terms of agriculture +How so? CA produces almost 3x the amount in ag$ as those 3 states combined. +--- 2567277 +>>2567276 +just to feed the state of california alone, california only feeds itself. +--- 2567278 +>>2567277 +>california only feeds itself. +>derp +stfu +--- 2567320 +>>2566589 +Weren't you banned for repeated shitposting? +--- 2567321 +>>2567278 +He isn't entirely wrong, in terms of total output to population CA is only a little higher than parity. The majority of its output is sold in the general region except for more "exotic" crops like fruits, nuts and greens in which it dominates. For example, CA produces around 13% of the US's total agriculture output as a state, however it contains 12% of the US total population as well. Midwestern and PNW states are actually proportionally more food secure than CA and proportionally export more. +--- 2567393 +>>2567321 +being able to feed itself with such a high population and GDP is an accomplishment. some countries can't even feed themselves +--- 2567402 +>>2567263 +>49ers were a tiny fraction of Californians +false +It was a large percentage of them at the time +--- 2567425 +I'll never understand the retards who screech about +>California is where most food comes from +No its not. The largest share of the SAD (Standard American Diet) comes from processed carbohydrates like white bread and white flour. Corn is grown in the corn belt of the midwest and the US has basically given up on producing wheat although there is a north-south wheat belt from roughly eastern Montana to about the panhandle of Texas. Maybe the American diet should be different but its not. +>California produces more than just organic wine, almonds, and oat milk. We also make real milk +California sells ~milk~ not dairy products. Milk as a product has one of the highest number of derivatives for any agricultural product. California produces relatively little butter, ice cream, cream, sour cream, yogurt, etc. If you want to go down the rabbit whole on this the department of agriculture also retardedly measures milk production in pounds. It also doesn't standardize for water content in the milk. +--- 2567427 +>>2567163 +>>2567216 +The dust bowl largely wasn't midwestern phenomenon. Texas and Oklahoma were the hardest hit and they aren't part of the midwest. +--- 2567443 +>>2566391 (OP) +>the man who did it was from the South +OP, I don't know how to tell you this, you might want to take a seat.. +--- 2567451 +>>2567393 +Nah California is huge, aint nothing special in their ability to make food which even the massive indian population (200k-2million where most indian cunt outside of mesoAmerica were sparsely populated nomads) that was here before whitey was able to do since the valley is so fertile. California doesnt have a water problem either? they have a retarded lust for money problem that they willingly fuck over their soil and potential to make a quick buck on cash crops +--- 2567595 +>>2566586 +>overpriced mid tier wine +>t. Seething French fag +--- 2567597 +>>2566716 +>Almonds is where all the water goes. +Nigger, the farmers own the water rights. They've been using the same amount for crops for over a century. If you banned almonds tomorrow, they would just grow peaches or tomatoes or watermelon or weed. +Almonds are the worst nut and I think less of anyone who consumes them. But the fact is that you can grow food in the desert, or you can grow cities in the desert. But you can't do both. +--- 2567631 +>>2567321 +>He isn't entirely wrong +yes he is. He stated CA "only feeds itself" which is simply not factual. Moreover, ID couldnt feed it self it it tried. +--- 2567633 +>>2567320 +Weren't you banned for being a fucking retard? +--- 2567713 +>>2567631 +>Idaho +>not being able to feed itself +Nigger do you not pay attention to the french fry bags or potatoes your depressed mom buys your manchild ass? +--- 2567734 +>>2567154 +Imagine growing up in and never leaving the town your ancestors from 300 years ago (who did the same exact thing) settled in. + +Couldn't be me +--- 2567744 +>>2566595 +>>2566739 +>>2567101 +>>2567272 +MFW California's agricultural based economy as a state competes with most COUNTRIES. Seethe poorfags no one will miss your state which contributes so little to the GDP of our great nation. +MFW no face +--- 2567762 +>>2567631 +It is factual. CA if it stopped exporting and importing food from everywhere else right now, would be barely scraping by by the next growing season in domestic supply and demand. ID on the other hand, produces ~3.27 times the amount of food it needs to feed its near 2 million population from POTATOES ALONE. It also grows a large amount of wheat and has a large stock of cattle as well. There are other states in the Midwest that also blow ID out of the water in domestic production vs domestic use. +--- 2567789 +>>2567762 +>hurdurr +>if you only eat potatoes, wheat and beef you'll be fine +lol. +--- 2567792 +>>2567789 +Yeah I forgot Californians only ate cock +--- 2567799 +>>2567744 +California's industry is a result of ww2, during which VAST, ENORMOUS sums of money from all states were poured into the west coast, essentially overnight, all to support the Pacific theater of the war. + +Did California pay back any of that after? Nope. They kept it all and the industry on top. And a few decades later they think they did it all themselves. + +This is why everybody hates you, you know. +--- 2567804 +>>2567792 +>projection +lol +--- 2567812 +>>2567799 +>This is why everybody hates you, you know +Fuck off that was long before any of us were born +--- 2567821 +>>2567799 +>Did California pay back any of that after? +lol California has been a net giver to Federal coffers for decades. CA recives the least amount of federal aid per capita by far. $12 per person from the federal govt...as opposed to VA which is $10,000 +--- 2567823 +>>2566391 (OP) +Wasn't even agriculture. +It was swimming pools and lawn care. +--- 2567833 +>>2566488 +hmmmm not eat some walnuts or end up without any source of water west of the Rocky Mountains? + +Honestly if your gov wasn't retarded you would have just desalinated water... +--- 2567840 +>>2567799 +Yeah not like those rugged flyover farmers. They would never take a dime from the feds. +--- 2567872 +>>2567840 +You mean flyover farms are taking back the money that was stolen +--- 2567875 +>>2567872 +>this level of mental gymnastics +As much as I dislike the current state of CA politics, I can't help to ask what level of reality jumping do people do to say shit like that. +--- 2567877 +>>2567875 +CA is a net drain on the system not a net positive. Look at all the liberal bullshit you vote in now. And consider the enormous investments mentioned in the post you just responded to. California is a shithole. Outside of Silicon valley and Hollywood there isn't much production of anything. Sure there's illegal immigrants working in the fields. But the immigrants get on the first bus out of town that they can afford and move somewhere else. The agriculture they work on isn't essential food for the most part. California's agriculture is dominated by high dollar value products like organic food, fruits, and nuts. Outside of tomatoes the average american probably doesn't eat anything produced in california on a day-to-day basis. +--- 2567882 +>>2567799 +>Souce, my ass +--- 2567906 +>>2567877 +>Outside of Silicon valley and Hollywood there isn't much production of anything. +You're just buying into the seethe the rightwing has against CA since the end of the Regan days. There is so much to CA it's truly mind boggling, Aerospace, Defense contracting, Finance, energy, tourism, Oil&gas, Military, Fishing and so much more. +>Outside of tomatoes the average American probably doesn't eat anything produced in California on a day-to-day basis. +If anything CA produces too much and we have dependency on CA for fruits and nuts + +Even with the most basic research one can tell you how fucking wrong you are. So much of our produce is tied in with CA to the point its a huge concern when issues like water and natural disasters happen because we are so dependent on it. You can hate CA and its politics and there is much to be desired but only a retard would believe that CA is anything but a Massive economic and cultural entity in the world. +--- 2567907 +>>2567762 +CA accounts for a quarter of all food production in the country. You're out of your element, Donny. +--- 2567913 +>>2566595 +All you grow is corn and søy. No real vegetables or fruit. + +>>2567163 +>>2567170 +Imagine being so lazy that you stopped halfway to California because you couldn't walk any further. When I use to spend time in Nebraska this girl I knew would always joke that the Midwest was just full of the fat failures who got tired walking to Oregon and California. Only the best or fittest could make it to California before the trains and later car made it accessible. +--- 2567915 +>>2566391 (OP) +you watch that chick on instagram who does lake facts don't you? Not a bad channel honestly +--- 2567932 +>>2567877 +California has the 8th largest economy in the world. +--- 2567946 +>>2567907 +13%, and most of that is lower calorie food and milk. And the states population is 12% of the US total. +--- 2567947 +>>2567932 +Largest debt in the US. It's the poster child for how unsustainable the globohomo system is. +--- 2568080 +>>2567877 +>CA is a net drain on the system not a net positive +see>>2567821 +>>2567877 +>the average american probably doesn't eat anything produced in california on a day-to-day basis. +maybe if they had vegetables once in awhile lol...you can go to any produce aisle in the grocery store and find CA products. You seem retarded. why is that? +--- 2568081 +>>2567947 +>he doesn’t know the US dollar is backed by debt +NGMI +--- 2568093 +>>2567913 +>Only the best or fittest could make it to California before the trains and later car made it accessible. +But it's actually not true for midwestern land, the western Midwest (western NE, SD, ND) is not very desirable since the land is so dry and unproductive. Most settlers to the Midwest we're destined to end their voyage in the Midwest because of the homestead act and rich farming soil. Literally all my family immigrated and came to the midwest in the 1870s-1880s when rail to the West Coast was possible and were just interested in the quarter section of homestead they were entitled to if they farmed and maintained it, it's kind of funny because that soil is some of the most valuable and productive farming soil in the world now and they paid almost nothing. Also corn is grown for economic reasons, it's really hard on the soil but corn is the modern day cash crop per acre, if you eat meat of any sort, the overwhelming majority of cattle, pig, and poultry are corn fed. Also muh ethanol is very profitable but that's just because the government wants to wealth transfer money from the rich coastal regions inland in the form of subsidies since technically natural gas/diesel fuel is consumed in the fertilizer and the planting/harvesting respectively of the corn. Guess it's a cheap way to convert CH4 and a bit of diesel into a larger quantity of burnable (or drinkable) ethanol which will stretch the life of our petroleum reserves out. + +California has different farming infrastructure, they can get five planting seasons or more if weather cooperates, soil can be used year round with a massive amt of fertilizer. The actual vegetables most people eat day to day are sourced in CA or from abroad as you can get fresh carrots/broccoli/peas/etc. in December in colder states as a result so all the infrastructure for that type of crop is built there. Lastly the brightest are no longer flocking to CA, the state is losing people can you guess what kind of people are leaving? +--- 2568099 +>>2567734 +Not everyone believes in generational wealth and that’s okay anon, no need to get defensive. +--- 2568102 +>>2567812 +And you cocksuckers claimed “inheritance” while also demanding liberal social Justice without even recognizing the irony. +--- 2568286 +>>2567906 +>There is so much to CA it's truly mind boggling, Aerospace, Defense contracting, Finance, energy, tourism, Oil&gas, Military, Fishing and so much more. +And every one of those industries is leaving because nobody can do anything in CA anymore. + +>If anything CA produces too much and we have dependency on CA for fruits and nuts +I don't eat fruit or nuts on a daily basis. + +It is you who needs to do the basic research. I'd say pick up a book but really just pick up a newspaper. You talking points come straight from the 90's. I'd also say leave CA but really we don't want your kind anywhere so please stay there and get gang raped by niggers and spics with ads. +--- 2568287 +>>2567913 +>All you grow is corn and søy. No real vegetables or fruit. +This is a stupid argument. Corn and onions are also used as a animal feed. Chicken, beef, and pork are derivative products of corn and onions. Try to do some basic research before commenting. +--- 2568290 +>>2567932 +So? You don't eat dollar bills. California's production is mostly intangibles like entertainment and highly speculative technology startups. That plus some prestige products like wine and organic fruit. This isn't the 1940's where California was booming and it still had the oilfields and manufacturing. I've been to the rust belt and honestly its doing better right now than most of California. +--- 2568317 +>>2567595 +hold the fuck on +france lost in WINE? +TO CALIFORNIA? +--- 2568376 +>>2568317 +Yep +--- 2568435 +>>2568286 +>every one of those industries is leaving +memetake. not factual. hysterical reeeing from Fox news +--- 2568515 +Edwin Sarkassian is a lakedrying faggot. +--- 2568527 +>>2566488 +Yes, it's unironically an issue. People saying otherwise is cope. The rest of country destroys itself with corn and onions. Other states currently aren't growing as much as they think they are. Commiefornia is retarded and shitty but it's fact it grows a lot of the food the country is dependent on. diff --git a/out/2566427.txt b/out/2566427.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d1dfc85b4daad28263b33547fa848a7dc402e294 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566427.txt @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@ +----- +--- 2566427 +View of Big Bend from the Rim of Mariscal Canyon +--- 2566430 +This is the rest of the view I couldn’t get a full panoramic +--- 2566431 +>>2566427 (OP) +In NY. +--- 2566432 +>>2566430 +On the ridge below me there were some bighorn sheep and their babies I accidentally disturbed when we got to the top +--- 2566434 +>>2566431 +--- 2566435 +>>2566434 +Picrel is a photo of the river in >>2566431 while straddling the collapsed tree in >>2566434 . +--- 2566436 +>>2566431 +This up in the catskills? +--- 2566438 +>>2566436 +Nah, a bit NorthWest of them. Not in a mountain range. +--- 2566454 +>>2566430 +Did you offroad or hike in? +--- 2566460 +>>2566454 +both, we had to offroad to the southernmost part of the park and hiked through the desert mountains to get to the canyon + +I thought the only good /out/ in NY was up in the catskills +--- 2566489 +>>2566427 (OP) +North Central MT +--- 2566494 +>>2566427 (OP) +New Jersey diff --git a/out/2566471.txt b/out/2566471.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ba93005c5341a83e9e00328d0f514ff6501b8801 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566471.txt @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +----- +--- 2566471 +I've done my fair share of peak bagging and have seen some good electrical storms but I've never been hit by lightning and I don't know anybody who has. Getting hit by lightning is so rare that it's used to describe an extremely rare occurrence such as a deadly bear attack. So what's all the fearful talk about? Seems to me it's just another thing that "experienced" outdoorsmen use to scare the newfags. Sorry folks, I don't pack my fears. +--- 2566512 +>>2566471 (OP) +>So what's all the fearful talk about? +What fearful talk? Are you sure this isn't something you're imagining? +I've met exactly one person in my life who worried about the risk of getting struck by lightning and he had the bad luck to have already been struck twice so I figure he's allowed to be paranoid about lightning being out to get him. Apart from him - nada. +--- 2566563 +Imagine the feeling, the most powerful force of electricity chose you as it's vessel towards the earth. For that moment you are the most important thing all around. Then you're dead. +--- 2566601 +>>2566471 (OP) +Lol. depends on where. I have been around enough close lightening strikes that blew up trees very near me to understand it is an actual risk. I have also been on top of OP's pic related and found out why its called that. But I also carry bear spray for the way down too... +--- 2566639 +>>2566471 (OP) +I've never met a single person afraid of being struck by lightning. I've met people that find it startling, but they're not afraid of being struck by it. +--- 2566647 +>>2566563 +That's what our life is bro +--- 2566674 +>>2566471 (OP) +>So what's all the fearful talk about? +who talking about it? It is a risk albeit small one. Just like a bear attack. But it does happen. + + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JKvK_JqJfo [Embed] +--- 2566812 +Been chased off towers by lightning storms a few times. + +Fucking terrifying when you see corona discharge arcs between ladder and tower, hear the air crackling and popping. + +Replaced a lot of blow'd up radios, cameras, PA's, polyphasers, transtectors. +--- 2566844 +RIP Nicholas Torchia. Killed by lighting while hiking on the Muir Ranch Trail in 2021. +--- 2566846 +>>2566844 +That must have been shocking +--- 2566851 +RIP Wade Young. Killed by lightning on Humphrey's Peak, Arizona. +--- 2566852 +RIP John "Jack" Murphy. Killed by lightning while hiking near Enos Lake, Wyoming. +--- 2566855 +RIP Jonathan Crowden of Australia, killed by lightning while hiking at the Grand Canyon. +--- 2566856 +>>2566639 +I've been within 100-200 yards or so of a cloud to ground strike. If you aren't afraid of being struck after that, you simply don't fear death. +--- 2566857 +>>2566854 +I've had lightning strike a small tree a few feet away from me, but I'm still not concerned. Also, if you survive a lightning strike, the scar looks pretty fucking sick. +--- 2566860 +RIP Sam Beattie of Boston, killed by lightning while camping with his girlfriend at the top of Mount Warning, Australia. +--- 2566925 +>>2566471 (OP) +It is not rare, you must also know how to "read" the weather, clouds tell you a lot about it, being at high altitude and near cumulonimbus type of clouds its very dangerous. +--- 2566928 +>>2566925 +Thank you. I'll heed your advice as I sign summit registers this summer. +--- 2567133 +>>2566925 +I stayed at this lookout during a lighting storm. Thankfully it had a rod attached to it. Was a pretty kino experience honestly. +--- 2567182 +>>2566844 +>>2566851 +>>2566852 +>>2566855 +>>2566860 +>Lightning only strikes chads +Guess I am safe then! +>Verification not required. +--- 2567199 +>>2567133 +im staying at mccart this year, wanted to last year but they were doing renovations. i did get struck by lightning staying in pic related though (Arid Peak) +--- 2567230 +>>2566471 (OP) +Lightning is not a risk if you aren't doing things that increase your odds of getting hit, but you can make your odds quite high if you want to or are stupid enough to not understand. +Yeah they're literally one in a million in a broad view, but if you narrow your scope to "odds of getting hit by lightning during a thunderstorm while standing on high ground holding a metal pole above your head" it becomes quite likely, and quoting statistics at nature won't save you. If you want your odds to be the same as the average you can't do things that increase your risks, so being cautious about lightning is a good idea anyway. +Shark attacks are also very rare, even less common than lightning strikes if I'm seeing accurate numbers, but you still clear out of the water when one comes around. +--- 2567246 +When people get hit by lightning it leaves them with interesting scars, like pic. +--- 2567261 +>>2567199 +Have fun! Watching the sunset over the Bitterroots is 10/10. +--- 2567267 +>>2566471 (OP) +I want to be struck by lightning on a hike and be completely incinerated. +--- 2567268 +>>2567261 +just double checked and theyve closed it for renovations this season... again. ill have to plan something else out i guess lol. +--- 2567271 +>>2567246 +I'd suck the lightning bolt out of her tits +--- 2567274 +>>2567268 +Damn, too bad. Was also going to mention there's huckleberry bushes all along the trail up there. +--- 2567275 +>>2567267 +Probably not the worst way to go honestly +--- 2567279 +>>2567274 +thanks anon. i live a few hours north so i got my not-so-secret huck spot, this year im going to try and get a bunch of bilberries but they are really tricky to pick a lot of. diff --git a/out/2566493.txt b/out/2566493.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a6269778245b7a8fd04c9b12313bb45f9e1afcd8 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566493.txt @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +----- +--- 2566493 +Does anyone on here know where to get a map, map layer or gpx file of all the hiking trails of Los Alcornocales natural park in Spain? I'm preparing to hike part of the GR7 between Ronda and Tarifa, but a lot of the established route skirts along the edge of the park and I want to plot a course through it instead. +--- 2566659 +no but i have the gr 20 one if you need it +--- 2566966 +>>2566659 +I got the GPX to all European long distance trails. Managed to plot a side loop by using Wikilocs. Found out that route would take a few days longer and I sadly don't have the time. +--- 2568374 +>>2566493 (OP) +https://www.openstreetmap.org/ diff --git a/out/2566550.txt b/out/2566550.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1ce45560fb5c8ea75666b5b6ebafcf27b798bb77 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566550.txt @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +----- +--- 2566550 +Hello, + +How would I go about replanting this pathos plant? I tried cutting it off and replanting a ~8inch stem in soil. (You can see where I did it at the end, it has since grown more over three months) The old end cutting died, so this is my last chance probably. Thank you, +--- 2568205 +>>2566550 (OP) +a way you can clone and propagate them by stem is to +>cut a piece of vine with approximately 4-5 nodes +>remove the lower leaves where you'll be rooting +>submerge the parts of the stem you want to root +>make sure no leaves make contact with the water because they'll quickly start to rot +>change water once a week until nicely rooted +then transfer to pot as usual +if you wanna do it in soil, it's a bit trickier and you'll probably need rooting powder or something +also a better place to go for this sort of thing is +>>>/an/4457189 diff --git a/out/2566570.txt b/out/2566570.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..aea892337332375285148b62a3d046ca8e348de0 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566570.txt @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +----- +--- 2566570 +>be me, 29 +>no choice but to move back in with folks for first time in a decade +>truly nightmarish but fully aware until I buy a house I'm just spinning my wheels renting +>enter friend who has a beautiful property in a rural region, about a half an hour drive from my parents' +They're pretty much happy for me to set up a campsite and live there indefinitely. They won't charge any rent and I'll be able to use the electricity/kitchen there for cooking. Offered to let me live in the house, but I'd be living in a lounge room. + +I have a hare brained schemed to buy a big tipi style/glamping canvas tent and basically live there part time. Days on at my folks, whenever I need to get away up there just 30 minute drive. I'd like to have a stove in there too for extra comfy winters, get some nice furniture and basically turn it into a home away from home. The more I think about it the cost of setting it up justifies the benefits it will do me mentally. + +Has anyone ever done anything like this before? Am I retarded? I have some concerns as to how the tent will stand up being out in the elements indefinitely. Also getting electronics in there to get them wet etc. Any advice appreciated. +--- 2566573 +>>2566570 (OP) +>I have some concerns as to how the tent will stand up being out in the elements indefinitely. +Depends on some other factors, but where I live it'd be done for in a month or two from humidity and sun. +--- 2567283 +>>2566570 (OP) +>Permanent tent +stopped reading there +tents arent permanent, it'll get damaged and fall apart after a month. +there's a reason we live in houses, anon. +--- 2567300 +>>2566570 (OP) +Yurt +--- 2567394 +>>2567283 +Not OP, but you can buy thick canvas tents intended for commercial glamping operators that'll last years. The place I go to for pack repairs makes them to order. Apparently if you set them up on a platform for drainage and treat the canvas for mould they're fine. Costs around $5k for a tent, though. +--- 2567400 +>>2567394 +this +>>2566570 (OP) +Woods is a Canadian company that makes old school prospector tents. If you treat them with marine canvas treatment they'll last a few years. +--- 2567575 +>>2566570 (OP) +Honestly just do Van Life sort of thing. Put a bed and all your stuff into a van or a truck and just use that. +--- 2567700 +I haven't seen anyone mention it but an option other than a tent that is easily placed and removable later is a shipping container .If your friend is Ok with it you can spread a load of gravel out over a spot and put a waterproof shipping container on the gravel for less than those Yurts cost. + The shipping containers are delivered by the same roll off trucks that they pick up cars with. I would build off a shipping container rather than a canvas tent. +--- 2567703 +>>2566570 (OP) +read walden and do everything he does +--- 2567708 +>>2567703 +Didn´t Thoreau live like, 20 minutes away from civilization, and basically went to town every other day? +>source +>https://www.theladders.com/career-advice/henry-david-thoreau-and-why-nothing-is-as-it-seems +--- 2567709 +>>2567708 +seethe city slicker. HDT is the man +--- 2567722 +>>2567709 +>seethe city slicker +>Defends a city slicker +--- 2567725 +>>2567708 +Irrelevant and childish 'gotcha' +--- 2567752 +>>2567722 +when is the last time you lived in the woods for years with a house you built with your hands? +--- 2567982 +>>2566570 (OP) +The canvas tent anons have the right idea, live like a miner or trapper used to with some basic modern conveniences. A company up here is still making them, good for reference and price comparison and you've probably got a local equivalent: https://www.airframesalaska.com/WallTents-s/2018.htm +Alternatively, an army tent like the one pictured is plenty livable for the circumstances described. +--- 2568134 +There have been some very neat dirt houses made digging into hillsides. I know a prospector tent is just objectively better but making a pithouse probably would raise the property value of the site and make you an eceleb since youtube loves these people. I had a canvas tent set up for years as a shed and they get damp/moldy from limited airflow after a while +--- 2568196 +>>2567708 +He states in it that he is either in or near a park and sees people regularly. Not sure why this detracts from the story. +--- 2568328 +>>2566570 (OP) +As has been said, tents are not permanent structures, but in any case i would look into heavy duty canvas military tents.Forget yurts and faggot glamping shit, go hardcore milspec. +--- 2568338 +>>2566570 (OP) +>29 +>indefinitely + +Man you better be putting a more consideration into getting out of your situation than thinking how to glam up what is basically a treehouse at your parents house. +--- 2568452 +>>2567394 +I could see this being a stopgap solution while OP makes more permanent modifications, even if just piece by piece adding on actual walls and everything. +>>2566570 (OP) +My best advice is to make a thermal mass heater or something similar, cheap to build. Get lots of rocks for lots of thermal mass. Collecting wood just to camp or whatever is fine and easy when you don't do it often but when you're restricted to some plot of land you're gonna burn through your wood, you want to use your wood as efficiently as possible. +>>2568134 +Yeah a tent is no long-term solution and OP probably doesn't have a steady supply of animal supplies like people who actually lived in tents long-term did. +I think a temporary tent is fine and you can gradually either build and expand a shed or build onto the tent frame and gradually add more permanent pieces, you just have to do it consistently. Every time you go down there you make some improvement until you eventually have an actually decent shelter. + +Also pay your friend something, sweeten the deal with them. Even if it's 100 bucks a month you have to contribute something so you don't owe them something over this. Your situation might be good now but it might also change in the future, however small the amount you'll be seen as actually contributing and your friend will let you do more stuff on their land if they're getting 100 a month for it. + +Also expect mouse shit everywhere if you don't set up traps for them and they get into and shit on everything no matter how secure your tent or cabin is, those bucket traps where the mouse goes out then falls into soapy water then drowns are probably what you'd want for a canvas tent and you can make them yourself, when the mouse dies it sinks and doesn't stink as bad after being left for a few days / weeks. It only smells when you disturb the bucket. Going back to a tent filled with rotting mice isn't fun. diff --git a/out/2566575.txt b/out/2566575.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3e85f82cddec147ad606e564b30b1063a6384a28 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566575.txt @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +----- +--- 2566575 +Are bikes useful on hikes and outdoor activities? I'm planning to buy one just for transportation. +Was wondering if i could also use it for outdoor activities. +--- 2566584 +>>2566575 (OP) +>Are bikes useful on hikes +Anon, carrying a motorcycle around on a hike would be absolutely miserable, even a light 50cc. +--- 2566679 +>>2566575 (OP) +>Are bikes useful on hikes and outdoor activities? +I don´t know, try make a bow-drill fire on a motorcycle, and tell us alll about how it went. +--- 2566688 +>>2566575 (OP) +>hikes +Lol +>outdoor activities +Certainly. Get a dualsport/adv bike. +--- 2566697 +>>2566688 +Thats how grandma broke her coccyx +--- 2566718 +bikes are a much cheaper way to very remote camp sites up logging roads that usually require a decent 4x4 truck, bikepacking looks fun as shit but it requires a some experience to not fuck yourself up and dump your bike and injuring yourself in the middle of nowhere. +--- 2566765 +Bikes are fun, but 99% of riders I see out there offroad are retarded and drop their bikes on a road that a stock crossover could drive. +--- 2566777 +>>2566575 (OP) +Why would you wrap headers on a motorcycle? +--- 2566795 +>>2566688 +>dualsport/adv +this +--- 2566870 +>>2566575 (OP) +Surron's are fun, but not real /out/ + +They're 110 lbs, quiet, get up to 45mph, can lift over logs, but only have ~30 miles of range and take a while to charge also can't ride them on mainroads being so small. +--- 2566873 +>>2566575 (OP) +Bikepacking is fun, but you have to go far enough away that people won't steal it, but it also requires there to be roads to that far enough away. I can guarantee if some nigger driving a truck sees your bike on the side of a road, he'll just throw it in the back of his truck and take off. It's also very easy to injure yourself going up steep hills, I've lost 2 cousins and heard countless stories of people maiming themselves on a 4-wheeler or motorbike out in the woods. +--- 2566874 +>>2566873 +Kwab +--- 2567122 +>>2566697 +Is that from Napoleon dynamite? +--- 2567134 +>>2567122 +Lol yes +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGqut4filKk&ab_channel=Toddeggs [Embed] +--- 2567203 +>>2567134 +Love that movie! +Man i used to be a retarded kid. +--- 2567979 +>>2566575 (OP) +A dual-sport is the only type of bike that can truly go anywhere. 70 down the highway all day; no problem. Hard off-road riding; no problem. +Take the dual-sport pill. +--- 2568018 +>>2567979 +this. with bike you can go far, fast. +you can get way farther into the woods and farther away from the city way faster on a bike than on foot. +--- 2568334 +>>2566575 (OP) +I'm thinking of getting one of these badboys and becoming a druid of my flat ass marshy land. +--- 2568584 +>>2566575 (OP) +>>2566688 +Third for a dualsport/adv. I picked up a Tenere 700 for this season, and I'm gearing up for as much dispersed camping as possible. There are a few national forests around me that I can just pick a trail and find a spot to camp in. Mosquitos will be hell this spring though... +If you're interested in motocamping, there are plenty of youtubers that are great about doing it. I like Rob Hamilton and Dork in the Road +--- 2568590 +>>2566575 (OP) +Get something cheap, and that runs, thats ALL stock... make it what you want it to be.. + +Gonna warn you, a small sedan is going to be better in every damn way [including maintenance cost is a huge factor] even with "fuel mileage" means fuck all when you are paying $130 dollars for semi-mat, brake pads every 8-9k miles. Ignored your chain too long? oh that's gonna cost you 160... Tires every 10ish [rear mainly] miles? 180-240 depending what you get. don't get a bike with odd ass sized tires either, do look into this before buying. this is assuming you know how to work on your shit, if you're going to take it into a shop for every little repair and install. expect $300 everytime you go for shop time... +--- 2568594 +Get a Honda Transalp XL 600 V with offroad tyres, little gay boy diff --git a/out/2566612.txt b/out/2566612.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c725989873dd6c76ff4236ac3c33c971481fc072 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566612.txt @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +----- +--- 2566612 +Is wearing socks with sandals degenerate? +--- 2566626 +>>2566612 (OP) +>caring what others think +Just being you is the greatest filter of all, trust me. +--- 2566630 +>>2566612 (OP) +feel like most of the advantages to wearing sandals go away if you are also wearing socks with them, doesn't make it wrong but more like if you need the additional warmth/protection of a sock then a real shoe/boot also probably makes sense. doesn't make the sock sandals wrong and if 90% of your trip is sandal weather and just need socks for some cold evenings or something. + +style wise it will not get you laid but who cares about that when you are out? +--- 2566677 +>>2566626 +>Just being you is the greatest filter of all, trust me. +Wise words. +--- 2566916 +Wearing socks with Chacos is easily the most comfortable footwear in the outdoors. I've done a few 14ers in them. Never had a problem getting laid, and I even turned a gf around on the issue. +--- 2566929 +>>2566612 (OP) +If you're getting away with socks and sandals, you're not even technically /out/ imo. +--- 2566931 +>>2566929 +You're right. Longs, Blanca, and Princeton are indoors. +--- 2566940 +>>2566612 (OP) +btw why don't they make the sole from some breathable material? It's pretty shit standing on and sweating in that plastic/rubber shit. +--- 2566985 +Wool socks, sandals, and rubber overboots and gaiters for foul weather. + +Probably a good budget footwear system. Will need to do my own research... +--- 2567091 +>>2566612 (OP) +wool Socks+sandals is peak modular outdoor footwear. + +Protects sole-check +Breathable-check +Fast drying- check +Warmth- check (you're obviously not wearing these in the snow) +--- 2567190 +>>2566612 (OP) +>sole too thick +For me, it's the xero z-trail +--- 2567213 +>>2567190 +Just got my first pair of Chacos after wearing Teva for 30 years and I gotta tell you, the footbed is amazing. I don't even have bad arches. +--- 2567251 +>>2567190 +Ive heard that these are really uncomfortable and bad for stream crossings. Really light though +--- 2567253 +>>2567091 +>Guy is writing checklists on the feasibility of wearing socks with sandals +--- 2567255 +>>2567251 +>uncomfortable +Yes, if you're not used to walking barefoot. +>bad for stream-crossing +I haven't had any problems +--- 2567260 +>>2566929 +Germans travel across the entire planet wearing that +--- 2567697 +>>2566612 (OP) +https://youtu.be/B7En0z2A38c [Embed] +--- 2568536 +>>2567253 +>complaining about effortposting +fuck off + +>>2567091 +I actually wore socks + sandals in the snow when it was (barely) freezing out-- obviously not for heavy snow but for intermittent on the trail it was great. I run warm though. +I live in a very wet part of the country but for some reason socks + sandals in the rain doesn't really bother me, especially with wool socks. diff --git a/out/2566676.txt b/out/2566676.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..91e32cf9f712d9ba1e2b25d86f7558b053692b4b --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566676.txt @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +----- +--- 2566676 +>Just did a 2 mile beach run on the first super nice day of the year. +>Decided to go shirtless for the first time since I've been losing weight. +>Still husky, but my scale is heading in the right direction. +>Got no less than a dozen looks from women of all ages and colors as I ran past. +>The love for the fit dadbod is alive and well +>Feelsgoodman +--- 2566678 +>>2566676 (OP) +>Be me +>Fit young woman going on a stroll at the beach with my friends +>See something splashing in the distance +>Is that a beached whale? +>It can't be it looks like it's coming right at us +>It's a middle aged 300 pound neck beard running shirtless +>Look at my friend in disgust but she can't stop staring at this lovecraftian horror barreling towards us +>Look back at disgusting incel +>He winks at us +>As soon as he passes me and Stacy burst out laughing +--- 2566693 +>>2566676 (OP) +Good job losing weight, but I'm pretty sure they were just looking because you were running. People look at me all the time, and I just assume it's because they're not used to seeing people running. diff --git a/out/2566726.txt b/out/2566726.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..95312ced0a19362e00a598af206d195b6f4981fc --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566726.txt @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +----- +--- 2566726 +Wheres the ideal tropical land to survivemaxx and live off of fruit and sun in the wilderness? +--- 2566728 +>>2566726 (OP) +You should move to Sierra Leone +--- 2566735 +>>2566728 +Very funny +--- 2566748 +>>2566726 (OP) +--- 2566950 +>>2566748 +Except I actually chase my dreams :) +--- 2566959 +>>2566950 +but you aren't. +you are just trying to get others to idly fantasize with you like incells jerking together on discord. +--- 2566961 +>>2566959 +Sad inner projection, too bad I am White and you are not. +--- 2566977 +>>2566961 +>projection +>I am White and you are not. +kek, post nose. +--- 2567240 +>>2566726 (OP) +Tristan de Cunha +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_da_Cunha +--- 2567281 +>>2567240 +its not even the most remote +that'd be the Pitcairn Islands +--- 2567285 +>>2566726 (OP) +Sentinel island +You'd invade, but with basic body armor and a gun you'd be able to kill the men and then systematically impregnate all the women +--- 2567295 +>>2567285 +>everyone evades you until you fall asleep from exhaustion +>they walk up to you and cut your throat + +Technology isn't a substitute for common sense. +--- 2567323 +>>2567281 +>Pitcairn Islands +i didn't really know much about it but reading about it is insane. an island, 1.7 square miles. 50 people on it, practically all descended from some mutineers from an english sailing ship hundreds of years ago. +they've "sustained themselves" this entire time. i guess you have to hope that you can put up with the one or two potential suitors on the island. +--- 2567328 +>>2567295 +Ah like the millions of concubines to the Mongols and Turks did right? The Seijuqs only settled a few thousand Turks in Anatolia at first and they were able to suppress 10 million Greeks and Armenians with ease. Dont be a pussy and knock the teeth out of the first girl who snarls at you for taking them. The rest will follow as history has shown time and time again +--- 2567330 +>>2567285 +i think it'd be cool to have drones or satellites monitor sentinel island. i wonder what shit they get up to out there. +--- 2567357 +>>2566726 (OP) +Hawaii +--- 2567365 +>>2567357 +eh, the locals have thing for beating the shit out non-native hob- I mean yes! go be a beach bum in Hawaii OP, capital idea! +--- 2568054 +>>2566748 +The truth of this will be lost on OP +--- 2568112 +>>2568054 +You sound estrogenic +--- 2568114 +I live on Guam but if shit hit the fan most tropical islands will go full Lord of the Flies real quick. They're usually net importers because they aren't big enough to supply all the food and goods that support their population size. +--- 2568253 +>>2567323 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkSjRXnXZ-8 [Embed] +--- 2568309 +>>2567330 + +And we can gamble on what ever they do. Every now and then some prisoner gets dropped off there on a boat and we can gamble on what happens to them too. +--- 2568340 +>>2568112 +>this bad at logic +yes, it's true that no woman will ever jerk you off or otherwise touch your genitals, but that does not imply that anyone who refuses to jerk you off is a woman. diff --git a/out/2566749.txt b/out/2566749.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..167a7069866383bdebd2029d3f7df6fc4e1734dc --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566749.txt @@ -0,0 +1,202 @@ +----- +--- 2566749 +Imagine a hellish agricultural landscape, flat, not one tree in sight, minuscule allotments of land, many houses. How tf do you do it? Can we brainstorm a bit? +--- 2566751 +>>2566749 (OP) +get in a dumpster, burry yourself in the garbage, kill yourself, there's a good chance they will never find your body. +--- 2566753 +Post up in the hedgerows, or dig down and hope it doesn't rain. +There's probably a market for low profile tents with realistic grassland camo. +Dig, shore, and dewater. Might be able to keep the water out of your trench with a solar powered pump but I doubt it. +--- 2566754 +>>2566749 (OP) +Op here, I need to backpack trough such a place soon, I have a tent. I don't know if you guys call it wild camping or free camping or whatever, I call it stealth because it is a densely populated, intensively farmed flat countryside. I can't imagine a spot where you're not in the eyesight of a house, passerby, car. I'm no rookie and I know that when the sun sets, these doubts usually resolve themselves and you pitch wherever, but maybe I'm not considering something that could make so anxious at this dreaded passage into this wasteland +--- 2566755 +Build a platform in those trees, and use lots of camo netting. +--- 2566756 +>>2566751 +fpbp +--- 2566758 +I'd look for a dark green or camo bivy and place it in the long grass. +--- 2566760 +>>2566751 +You're awful, anyway this is weirdly motivational. +>>2566753 +Talking mainly bout a one night only situation, thanks for the suggestions anyway +--- 2566762 +>>2566758 +I really mind damaging the field in this way, especially when all grown. I think the farmer might damage me next +--- 2566763 +>>2566762 +Keep it off to the side near a fenceline, you won't hurt anything that way. +--- 2566768 +>>2566749 (OP) +Being British sounds increasingly like an exercise in humiliation +--- 2566771 +>>2566749 (OP) + +If there's water ways, Kayak down the water ways and camp where it's good. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysgH_rkfGSE [Embed] +--- 2566772 +>>2566768 +I'm not talking about Britain. Think more of something like certain parts of the Netherlands, or denmark or whatever... no hedges, no hills, you are in plain eyesight from paths houses roads for a mile +--- 2566778 +>>2566749 (OP) +>Imagine a hellish agricultural landscape, flat, not one tree in sight, minuscule allotments of land, many houses. How tf do you do it? +i have talked with few urban people during my time and they are all miserable pretty much +when they come to drink at my place they call it "the sticks" or this is "behind the god´s back" but what they are really saying i love it and let me live here forever because i hate it where i live +--- 2566798 +>>2566749 (OP) +Why do you want to camp there in the first place? +--- 2566875 +>>2566754 +pitch a tarp. no fire bigger than your hand. +--- 2566877 +>>2566772 +I'm going to the Netherlands this summer, how hard is camping there? +--- 2566967 +>>2566772 + +Surely there's some old trenches in Belgium to camp in. +--- 2566974 +>>2566768 +Holy rent free... +Nobody even mentioned Britain +--- 2566983 +OP should just get a car. Pretty simple. + +>>2566974 +>perfectly describes Britain +--- 2567563 +>>2566967 +Trouble there is the ghosts. +--- 2567581 +>>2566983 +it really doesn't. More like midwest USA or Netherlands or denmark. Only place in the UK that is like that description is the fens +--- 2567582 +>>2566877 +ask stepan snedzar or whatever he is called +dutch anon that used to shamelessly advertise his vids about camping in the netherlands on this board. +The summary I understand is that if you are not near the coast and can access small islands or are not near the veluwe hills then its pretty difficult. +--- 2567607 +>>2566974 +I'm British and assumed he was talking about Britain +we live in a shithole, just accept it and move on +--- 2567652 +Looking at satellite views of the countryside horrifies me. Used to go camping all the times as a kid, forests were always magical to me, being immersed in the woods always felt like a true fantasy experience, boundless miles of untamed wilderness full of creatures and adventure. Fast forward a few decades, make the mistake of looking up all the old stomping grounds on google maps.. all just thin strips of trees, isolated, surrounded by thousands upon thousands of patchwork squares of farmland and highways.... I can't even +--- 2567691 +>>2566749 (OP) +just get one of those teeny tiny backpacking tents and accept that you'll be sleeping in a drainage ditch or behind a large bush where if you have any artificial light sources you will be sniffed out and suspected of being up to no good because no sane man camps in the endless pesticide wasteland +--- 2567695 +Set up camp in ditches, ravines and depressions when the weather allows. Even sparse tree cover and bushes will provide concealment from long distance observation if your camouflage matches the ground and you minimize movement. +--- 2567699 +>>2566749 (OP) +I've done exactly what you're talking about in the great plains, US. It's not that hard, you need to be creative. + +Minimize footprint, bring maybe a sleeping bag and a tarp. + +Often times there are rows of trees separating property, or following streams which make good candidates. You'll obviously want to minimize your profile, and if you're on the move only move at night or in low light conditions. + +Sometimes you can get away with sleeping in the crops, such as getting in a furrow between corn rows. Look for structures that look relatively untraveled (Like a utility shed) and post up near that to hide your profile and hide in plain site. +--- 2567729 +>>2566749 (OP) +>Imagine a hellish agricultural landscape, flat, not one tree in sight, minuscule allotments of land, many houses +Just say Germany ffs. +--- 2567732 +I hate people who see agricultural fields and act like they´re nature. They´re not. They are industrial factories. They aren´t beautiful, or part of wildernis. +I fucking hate them. +>tHaTs WhErE YoUr FooD ComE fRom +Yeah, I wish it wouldn´t though. Fuck farming. Fuck the agrarian revolution. Fuck overpopulation. +Same goes for most forests. They´re not forests. They are manicured, industrialized tree factories. You might just as well stand in a steel mill. +God I hate the modern world. +--- 2567758 +>>2567607 +just say that you don't go outside nerd +--- 2567759 +>>2567732 +>hates the world for not killing him as an infant +>too cowardly to do the job himself +kek +--- 2567766 +>>2567758 +no +--- 2567768 +>>2567766 +just admit your only view of the outdoors is formed from what you see on the edge of your shitty town +--- 2567841 +>>2567768 +no +--- 2567847 +>>2566749 (OP) +you would be amazed how easy it is to not be see even in open fields. i just recently almost got stepped on by horse riders just because i was wearing a grey sweater and laying on a green blanket in the middle of a feild. this sort of shelter would work as long as you pick an appropriate camo pattern. +--- 2567854 +>>2566754 +bivy tent, camo net, shrubbery. +--- 2567857 +>>2567854 +feel like a camo net would stick out between the fields +probably get mistaken for someone illegally dumping their yard trimmings +--- 2567997 +>>2567768 + +I watch a bunch of mtb videos of Scottland and it looks amazing. +--- 2568003 +>>2567997 +scotland is cool, definitely better for most /out/ than england and wales, but it isn't as if there isn't any nature left in england adn wales +--- 2568013 +>>2568003 +some of the only land suitable for stargazing though +--- 2568066 +>>2566754 +Watch vagrant holiday and get some ideas.. Military spec waterproof sleeping bag. +--- 2568070 +>>2568003 +No sir. It's +>Wales +>Scotland +>Endland +Scotland is just gorse bushes, rocky climbs open fields and marshes. Wales has the most variety and the most eye catching views. England is 40% cordoned off dogshit and I am unironically ashamed to be English. May the queen ____ IN HELL. +--- 2568176 +>>2568070 +you don't know what ur talking about +>t. live and grew up in wales +England and Wales has the same as far as /out/ stuff goes. Out areas are more spread out in england, but also larger. +Your post makes me think you have never left your local area in england and been to one place in scotland and one place in wales (snowdonia) +--- 2568191 +>>2568176 +>Your post makes me think you have never left your local area in england and been to one place in scotland and one place in wales (snowdonia) +this + +>>2568070 +>Scotland is just gorse bushes, rocky climbs open fields and marshes. Wales has the most variety and the most eye catching views +what a fucking brainlet +--- 2568192 +>>2566754 +>I can't imagine a spot where you're not in the eyesight of a house, passerby, car +what a fucking waste of oxygen +--- 2568197 +>>2568003 +>>2567997 +Fuck off, we're full! +That aside, if you can, you should try get to Fort William at the end of the month, the Six Day Trials will be going on and when the bikes aren't giving the finger to the laws of physics they do go through some absolutely lovely areas of scenery. +Also the bikes are a great show. +--- 2568208 +>>2568191 +>what a fucking brainlet +Are you going to elaborate or just throw around insults you literal child? +--- 2568210 +>>2568176 +Well shoot, you got me. I'm still leaving this gay country though, and there ain't shit you can say to stop me. I hope the queens ashes follow you to the crypt underkeeper. +--- 2568349 +>>2568210 +Don't let the door hit you on the way out. +And good luck getting your green card, you should try imitating the way americans speak even more, it might help your odds. +--- 2568364 +>>2566877 +Camping is piss easy, if you know where. Best bet is near one of the rivers. Use Google earth to find a spot with no houses nearby. Be careful not to camp where wild cattle or horses roam, lest you wake up surrounded by them. +--- 2568504 +>>2568349 +I won’t mate. Fuck it you can inherit this shit, I’ll give it ya.. gettit? :^) +>The rest of that bollocks +I’ll just say I’m half Moroccan or some shit and then they’ll give me gibs. Don’t try to fearmonger me when I have access to blackface. diff --git a/out/2566800.txt b/out/2566800.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0ca2f5dc7d75ca0df48b2f075de477d4714ea2c8 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566800.txt @@ -0,0 +1,480 @@ +----- +--- 2566800 +#472- “Florida a Fishin Pair of Dice” Edition + +Previous Thread: +>>2562567 → + +janny pls… + +Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here! +http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle +https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N + +New Bong Fishin Guide +https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq + +First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc. + +Talk about fishin +--- 2566816 +bro her teeth? +--- 2566823 +>>2566800 (OP) +>PSA +>Don't cut your line with your teeth! +--- 2566833 +>>2566816 +>>2566823 +Leave it as a thumbnail +--- 2566868 +Caught me a couple of stock trout yesterday. And by a couple I mean 7, but they're stock trout, they're not exactly hard to catch. They were loving the Mepps spinners. Thinking on targeting SMB tomorrow. +--- 2566993 +Take the pole fishing pill. +--- 2567012 +>>2566993 +Based +Did it yesterday. +5 pic relates +1 ablet +And 7 Alosa fallax +--- 2567013 +>>2567012 +Pic related +>>2566993 +--- 2567072 +thoughts on a zodias? +--- 2567073 +>>2567072 +my two baitcasters are a zodias (7'2 MH-F) and a rebellion (6'10 MH-R). Zodias for topwater/pitching/flipping and trolling deep for large pike/musky. The rebellion for cranksbaits, swimjigs, basically everything else. Also a Med-Lite St. Croix Premier spinner for ned rigs, texas rigs, weightless worms, etc. I think Rebellion and Zodias are the best bang for your buck multi purpose rods on the market right now. Can't go wrong with either although if you want to spend less St. Croix triumphs and Fenwick HMG's are great and more than capable. They are my back ups. +--- 2567074 +>>2567073 +was looking at the 7' light spinning for neds/keitechs +considered the levante too but seems people have bad things to say about dealing with their warranty process +--- 2567075 +>>2567074 +I've had great experiences with shimano, daiwa and st. croix and tend to avoid everything else besides fenwick for affordable/back up options. Fenwick also has good warranties for many rods (HMG is lifetime) yet the service isn't the greatest, sometimes a long wait for a replacement which is why I like them for back ups. +--- 2567079 +>>2567075 +i'm usually a st croix/fenwick guy but wanted to branch out into something a bit more high end as i like to finesse fish +--- 2567080 +>>2567079 +you won't go wrong with a zodias or rebellion +--- 2567081 +>>2566800 (OP) +Hey anons, I have a river running through my land with lots of bream and bass and catfish in it, I want to eat more fish to be more self sufficient but I'm a bit paranoid about all the crap in rivers like farm runoff and plastics etc, the river comes out of a reservoir and it's not a very big river, should I be concerned about increasing my fish intake? +--- 2567086 +>>2567081 +should be able to get a water test kit and correlate it to accumulation in fish +generally stay away from really large fish as the bioaccummulation is worse +--- 2567089 +>>2567081 +in Ontario they have suggested eating guidelines, i primarily fish on a large inland lake (with very little cottages) and they have a guideline that says roughly like 2-4 walleye a month, 2-3 pike a month, 10 crappie a month, etc. The fear for my area isn't even about runoff pollution it's about acidic rain. What you're targeting also matters. If in doubt younger fish should always be safer +--- 2567125 +I’m going to throw swimbaits and nobody can stop me +--- 2567127 +how shit are eva grips +--- 2567131 +>>2567127 +Good ones are fine and they are better than cork if you’re gonna just leave your rods in the weather in your boat or whatever. + +That said, I hate them. +--- 2567132 +>>2567131 +what don't you like about them +--- 2567138 +>>2567125 + +What do you catch with these and when are you supposed to use them? I've had little luck with swimbaits. +--- 2567142 +>>2567138 +>find place where minnows are surfacing and bass are jumping due to some weird hunting strategy they have to circle underneath schools of minnows then like 5 of them surface and the minnows all surface as well +>use a swimbait that mimics the minnows in same location +>profit +--- 2567144 +moss green or onyx power pro? +--- 2567146 +>>2567144 +camo 832 +--- 2567147 +>>2567138 +It's not hard. The hard part is fighting yourself from putting down your swimbait shit and going back to conventional lures when you don't get bit after ~30 minutes. + +If you can fish a spinnerbait, you can fish a soft swimbait. If you can fish a crankbait, you can fish a crankdown swimbait. If you can fish a jerkbait, you can fish a glide bait. If you can fish a whopper plopper, you can fish a wake swimbait. +--- 2567152 +I need a good way to store jigs with trailers. Mixed plastic types including elaztech stuff. Any suggestions? +--- 2567157 +>>2567138 +Striped bass and LMB. Pretty much fish them anywhere you’d fish any other lure. Whenever I fish swimbaits I make sure it’s the only thing I bring, it takes dedication and consistency just like the other anon said. When it does produce it’s usually a good fish +--- 2567158 +>>2567132 +How they feel. I have a bit of tactile sensitivity, and the feel of EVA Foam makes my whole forearm just lock right the fuck up. I first had this problem with a little pencil grips that my first grade teacher gave me to try and get me to stop holding a pencil with a death grip. +There’s no good reason, I just can’t deal with it. +--- 2567172 +>>2567127 +cork feels and looks much better than foam. foam starts getting dried out and bad feeling after a year. I don't understand why some high-end expensive rods still use foam instead of winn grips or cork. at least you can maintain cork. +--- 2567173 +>>2567144 +green because it just looks like algae. I've caught fish on straight moss green no leader. +--- 2567183 +Are monofilament lines dead or do you guys still use it? +--- 2567184 +>>2567183 +Still using some 12lb Big Game and 8lb Izorline XXX Super Co-Polymer. +--- 2567189 +>>2567172 +this pisses me right off cause i'm looking for a high end rod and keep seeing this eva dogshit +>>2567183 +wouldn't say dead but i mostly use copolymers instead of mono +--- 2567192 +>>2567183 +Trilene XL is still one of my go to lines. Anything 8lb and under is very limp and extremely strong for it's rating. +--- 2567193 +>>2567189 +> https://tforods.com/product-category/conventional-fishing/ +--- 2567194 +>>2567183 +Berkley big game 12lb is my go to leader material. Comes in a big ass spool for cheap, and the stretch is super forgiving +--- 2567196 +>>2567144 +Hi vis yellow, colour the last 10 feet or so in with a sharpie +>>2567183 +Mono is alive and well +>>2567192 +Same, trilene xl is hella +--- 2567198 +>>2567193 +TFO rods are solid +--- 2567212 +1/8 minimum rating fine if i plan on using 1/16th jigheads accounting for the plastic? +--- 2567218 +>>2567212 +yeah. every rod is different though and sometimes rating means fuckall anyways. my rod rated for 1/8-1/2oz throws 1/16oz lures very well. +--- 2567220 +take the fannypack pill +--- 2567221 +>>2567220 +forgot pic +--- 2567224 +>>2567220 +*fly vest +--- 2567226 +>>2567224 +high speed low drag +--- 2567227 +>>2567226 +>jansport +my man +--- 2567231 +I like my backpack so I can hold some water. I would downsize otherwise. +--- 2567233 +>>2567231 +I use a backpack in the cooler months, but in the summer your back gets sweaty instantly. +--- 2567243 +>>2567226 +I feel kinda kooky wearing trendy clothes branded stuff, but I really like this salty crew fanny pack. It fits my lipper, pliers, water bottle, soft plastics, leader spools and 2-3 boxes. +--- 2567244 +>>2567233 +i've got a big flambeau backpack, its so loaded down with shit and heavy as fuck but i love having everything with me +--- 2567249 +>>2567243 +That's a good piece of kit. +--- 2567254 +>>2567249 +Ya I'm happy with the setup. I keep about 6 different boxes in my trunk and switch them out depending on what I'm targeting. +--- 2567293 +>>2567125 +I committed to the swimbait and caught a nice LMB from a super pressured urban pond +--- 2567333 +I'm almost completely new to fishing. Should I jump right into fly fishing or get a spinning rod and reel first? Both seem fun but most of the fish around here are trout so I want to fish what's actually available. +--- 2567346 +>>2567333 +I would see what other people are fishing at the spots you want to go to. Doesn't really matter either way but better to get a good start fishing at places where you choice of gear works good. +--- 2567351 +Post dinks +>>2567333 +Fly fishing +--- 2567369 +>>2567183 +I make tapered leaders with this stuff +--- 2567373 +>>2567333 +Fly fishing has a higher entry cost and skill floor, but when done properly catches more fish. Other forms of lure fishing as well as bait fishing are cheaper to get into and easier to do well, and target a wider variety of fish, but will be outperformed by competent fly fishing. If you intend to target trout exclusively, I'd say go for fly fishing, especially if you'll primarily be fishing in rivers or streams where flies are at their best and bait/lures at their worst. +--- 2567375 +>>2567346 +>>2567351 +Thanks. There is a local fly fishing store in my town, so I'll ask them about it tomorrow. Probably should have asked actual professionals first but I thought I'd ask here first before committing to a course of action. +--- 2567378 +>>2567373 +How much higher is the entry cost? Will I be able to get a decent start with say, $250? I don't plan on targeting exclusively trout, but in my local area literally every stocked body of water has trout. +--- 2567418 +>>2566800 (OP) +Did you guys run out of good looking women? Can someone other than a raging homosexual come up with #473? +--- 2567466 +Guys, does tenkara make you a gay? +--- 2567467 +>>2567466 +Both meme fishing like fly fishing or tenkaea make you gay. +Just look at the biggest fly fishing autist on this gen +--- 2567518 +>>2567466 +fly fishing is based +pole fishing is based +therefore tenkara is based +--- 2567564 +I bought a cheap Chinese rod as a backup and the segments keep separating when I cast. Will ferrule wax help seal the connection or should I use adhesive? +--- 2567569 +bros i'm finally going fishing tomorrow after a 6 month hiatus +>Canadian weather +Of course i will only be going for perch and crappie as everything else is out of season. I will NOT target bass, walleye, pike or musky. Not me. Law abiding citizen +--- 2567572 +>>2567564 +Wax will help. I would try it before I resorted to turning the rod into a 1 piece. +--- 2567577 +If i was going to buy 1 fly rod right now with the intent to purchase 1 more next year what would you go with? Everywhere i look recommends a 5 wt although if i bought a 5 wouln't i go up to 8 or down to 3 next year? Would a 6 this year and a 4 next year make more sense? +--- 2567580 +>>2567577 +what are you targeting? +--- 2567583 +>>2567580 +I plan on targeting everything from brook/brown/rainbows to smallmouth/largemouth and salmon/steelhead +--- 2567586 +>>2567577 +I would get a 5 wt to start. You'll have a better idea of what you need after you've fished for a year so don't worry about that not. +--- 2567587 +>>2566800 (OP) +This one's for the alcoholic hobo fisherman /out/ists, couldn't find a better thread +Is there a decent ultralight corkscrew? This one is all steel and kind of full featured and I think I could lose 70g here easy +--- 2567603 +i'm noticing a lot of the same lengths and actions/powers between some brands, are these just the same blanks being used but their separate hardware added? +--- 2567636 +>>2567378 +You'll be just fine with $250 +That'll get you an Echo base combo, a couple leaders, some tippet, a fly box, and some flies. + +>>2567466 +No, just a weeb +>>2567467 +Fly fishing is for homos, tenkara is for weebs +>>2567577 +If ypu want your first with intent to add more later get a 4 weight and learn to fly fish small stuff (panfish, dink bass, trout) then add an 8 weight for pike, bass, carp, saltwater, etc. As you fish more with those two combos you'll figure out if you want to add a 2, 6, or 10 weight fly rod to your arsenal. +>>2567583 +Yes definitely start on a 4 then add an 8 later +>>2567587 +Just catch and arouse a male duck and use his penis, the lightest cork screw is the one you don't have to carry. If you don't like that option amd already carry a multi tool just get a drywall screw, screw that in to the cork, then grab it with the pliers and pull. +--- 2567638 +>>2567603 +sometimes... but usually not. the reality is that they aren't the same blanks, they just slap on a generic rating that doesn't even feel the same between rods. you can pick up two rods that have the same rating, and they don't feel the same. ratings can be off by a noticeable amount. +--- 2567644 +whats your preferred crawfish bait? +--- 2567647 +>>2567644 +rage craw +--- 2567654 +>>2567644 +OSP dolive craw +--- 2567670 +>>2567647 +>>2567654 +no i meant bait FOR crawfish, in trap +--- 2567679 +>>2567670 +small net for goldfish, walk along rocky bottoms, lift up rocks, etc find them net behind BANG catch em +--- 2567682 +>>2567670 +chunks of worm drowner +--- 2567753 +>>2567138 +Any predator that feast on fish in the given size +--- 2567764 +Presenting babby's first babby spotty. +Finally went bay side fishing again after skunked here two years ago, and haven't fished much in general the past two years. Beautifully sunny on the coast and overcast across the bay. Mostly wanted to focus on my casting so I kept my expectations low on actually catching anything. Three casts in, the spool dumps a bunch of line and is a tangled mess. Spent a couple of minutes seeing if I could salvage the shit but ultimately cut it off and retied. No problems with it after, so perhaps I had it overfilled? +Was throwing a 1/8oz ball head jig with a 3" Reins Rockvibe Shad. I'm a bad judge of distance, but there wasn't much in terms of castability, maybe 30 yards at best. Supposedly the Cays are pretty shallow so I wanted some distance to get into deeper water. Didn't end up mattering too much since I got this guy pretty shallow to my surprise. Bumped up to 10g as the tide went out for more distance and caught one more dinker before heading home. +--- 2567816 +>>2567125 +Pike, bass, musly, trout, cod, salmon, literally anything that can eat something of that size, 10cm pike eat 15cm swimbaits +--- 2567818 +Anyone have experience with Lucky brand fish finders / depth finders ? The fact that they make standalone units that don't require a smartphone really peaks my interest, only people making these that aren't a boat unit or pair with a smart phone as far as I know. +--- 2567827 +>>2567378 +>my local area literally every stocked body of water has trout +Just get put gear then, you can get more than enough for that amount +--- 2567837 +>>2567378 +>>2567827 +Your setup generally isnt that important, the bait is. You can fish a broom shaft with the correct shit in the end and catch fish, i have. Having great and expensive gear just means a better and more accurate fishing experience. For a beginner literally anything will do. Literally, so dont stress it at all +--- 2567914 +how do I catch these niggas? they don't follow lures or worms and are a plague in my zone now because their predaintators are dying +--- 2567920 +>>2567914 +Are those smelt? Sometimes I catch them on wax worms when I'm ice fishing for perch +--- 2567924 +What kind of storage can I fit in a fanny pack? I only have 3600s +--- 2567929 +>>2567924 +depends on the fanny pack. 3500 fits perfectly in mine, just enough room to get it out without struggling. +--- 2567945 +>>2567466 +What is that fish? +--- 2567949 +Arrived here at 6am +It's 7:36 no bites + +I'm 007 +0 bites +0 fish +7 lost weights +--- 2567950 +>>2567945 +Looks like a bonefish with a mohawk +--- 2567955 +>no place to store a boat or kayak +i hate it here in germany +--- 2567956 +>>2567466 +>tenkara +is this a new hype? +more and more stores list these rods +--- 2567983 +>>2567955 +I would store a kayak in my house/apartment if that meant I could go out on the water. +--- 2567993 +How you craft a fish trap from a ventilator +https://youtu.be/Ri0-1Uq4tN8?t=194 [Embed] +--- 2567994 +settled on expride 7' light for neds and keitechs +--- 2568048 +I found an empty turtle shell and it got me thinking... half the turtles you see could very well be older than you. They live a long time and the full-grown ones rarely get killed by anything other than alligators or humans. Why would you kill a turtle if you aren't gonna eat it? That nigga might have 30 years of life left. +--- 2568094 +>>2567764 +I have two rods I use for spottys, my baitcaster is rated up to 3/4 oz and I throw 1/4 oz jig heads at the lightest and then I have my light spinning set up on a japanese aji rod that's rated up to 10g and I through .8g-10g jigheads and other ul stuff on. +--- 2568095 +>>2567764 +Ah. Make me tempted to take my kayak out tmr morning in the bay. I planned to do that today but ended up being busy in the morning +--- 2568143 +Which hook shape is the best for barbless hooks? Does it even matter if you keep your line tight at all times? +--- 2568152 +>>2568143 +You'll lose more fish regardless even if you keep your line tight. It might be a loss you are willing to make though +--- 2568153 +I've been researching fly rods and I've got a few options to consider +>Okuma Crisium - available locally for $60, doesn't come with a reel but they sell fly reels too +>Eagle Claw Featherlight - same as above +>Redington Path II combo - on Amazon for $110 +>Echo Base combo - available online for $190, stretching my budget but I'll buy it if it's truly head and shoulders above the other offerings +What do you think I should get? +--- 2568189 +>>2568153 +eagle claw or echo +--- 2568220 +Going to Cabo on vacation, going to have plenty of time to fish. The only rod I’ll be able to travel with is a 6’6” ML 5 piece though. I’m bringing some soft plastic swimbaits and jerkbaits, a few small spinnerbaits and hard bodied jerkbaits. I have zero experience surf fishing, what am I in for +--- 2568223 +>>2568143 +It depends more on what type of fly you're tying than it being barbless. That hook you posted is good for beaded nymphs +--- 2568235 +I finally got a nymphing dedicated rig so I can be twice as effective on the river, also got a lot of other new gear over the off season im excited to try with opener coming up +--- 2568237 +>>2568094 +I have a ML 1/8-1/2oz spinning set up and MH 1/4-1oz for baitcaster. Should be good enough to cover my shorepounding needs. +>>2568095 +It was really nice out but the wind did pick up in the later morning. +--- 2568239 +If everybody of water in my county as listed as "do not eat the fish" due to industrial poisoning, will any man-made pond with drainage get poisoned in a flood? +--- 2568285 +>>2567183 +Honestly it depends I mean I'd rather use a 4-8 foot monofilament leader and my main line be Braided. Just depends on what I'm fishing for. On my 50 wide conventional reel I've got 200lb power pro Braided line with a 130lb monofilament topshot at 200 yards but I think next time I might think about going heavy monofilament on the whole reel. +--- 2568289 +>>2568239 +I would assume, and don't take my word for this, that by "poisoned" they mean acumulation of heavy metals in the fish, what kind of industry is it? +--- 2568307 +Just found out a good fishing friend of mine passed away recently. Really fucking bummed out about that. I told him my exact locations where I caught bass, we shared with each other the bass behavior at a local city urban park we fished together, and discussed lure techniques. I was a gigantic jig fisherman while he was a crankbait and lipless trap guy, baits I never liked to throw because trebles scared me. + +He laughed at me when I transitioned to swimbaits, telling me if tiny trebles scare me, how the hell doesn't 2 big 1/0 trebles. Shared with him my cast to catch footage, only showing it to like ~4 people at most because I didn't want to share my spots. Going to miss that guy, RIP good friend. One of the few I could tell everything too and didn't have to worry about it going out. +--- 2568314 +>>2568220 +Maybe catching some baby stuff in the morning spoons are pretty versatile in baja. Cabo surf fishing is usually a 9'+ rod and 20lb line minimum. I micro fish a little in la paz, but most beaches in Cabo have big sketchy shore breaks. +--- 2568339 +Are ugly stik rods actually that bad? I was gonna buy one for inshore, but as I'm trying to do more lure fishing I'm worried about the no sensitivity meme. Is it exaggerated, or are they legitimate broomsticks, even the elite/inshore select models I'm looking at? How would they compare to a similarly priced reputable rod, like the Marathon Guardian. I would forget about the ugly stiks if my rods weren't forced to be stored in a closet and transported by renting on top of the console along the length of my sedan. +--- 2568347 +>>2568339 +There is nothing wrong with them if you realize what they are designed for and the shortcomings. They ARE way less sensitive. They are more noodley at the tip. That's what makes them durable though. You can high stick them and they won't break. I've put one literally into my ceiling fan and nothing happened. I have a friend who treats his gear like shit, throwing it and all, and his hasn't broke. With that said... it doesn't mean that other rods "break easily." Most are plenty durable unless you treat your rod like shit, throwing it down, slamming it in car doors, trying to yeet snags in trees loose, and high sticking. If you are using mono, the sensitivity difference isn't noticed as drastically because the stretch takes away a lot of the feeling, but even on cheap line like Yo-Zuri Hybrid you will feel a difference. You will literally feel your bait touching bottom on most decent rods. Again... not really as important with baits that you constantly retrieve, but on ones that require a hookset it's a huge difference, almot needed. The Ugly Stik Elite is supposedly just a GX2 with higher percentage of graphite, but they don't feel a whole lot different when you use them back to back. +--- 2568348 +>>2568347 +I'm using 15lb x8 spiderwire with a mono leader. Should I avoid the mono? Or is just the leader not a big deal? Also what rods do you recommend? +--- 2568363 +>>2568348 +It's not as bad of a sensitivity loss as full mono, but obviously you still get some stretch and loss with mono leader. You can switch to Yo-Zuri Hybrid or a pure flouro and gain some sensitivity. As for rods... there are a lot honestly. It really depends on the budget, $100-150 being a sweet spot in my opinion. There are good $60-75 rods too, they just usually have guides that aren't as high-tier and less options on power/action. The $100+ rods also often come with good warranties. For example with a TFO rod, they will supposedly replace it if you break it for about half the price of a new one. If they honor that it's an extremely good deal honestly. I have a Professional model and I love it. I use it as a "do-it-all" rod and it really excells at that role. It's not a technique specific rod, but that's the allure. I'm actually planning to get another model in that line I like it so much. It feels really solid too if you're worried about something feeling fragile. Everything from the guides to the blank feel like you would really have to do something stupid to break it. It just has a really robust feeling without feeling like a stiff lifeless rod. +--- 2568371 +>>2568363 +>For example with a TFO rod, they will supposedly replace it if you break it for about half the price of a new one +Link? Sounds cool. I wonder if you need to keep proof of purchase or something +--- 2568385 +>>2568371 +after looking again, it says if it fails due to defect... but they do offer a repair service. I could have sworn it used to be what I typed earlier, maybe it did. either way, these rods are built very well. +> https://tforods.com/product/professional/ +I have the Medium Light and plan on buying the Light. A lot of people use the Medium for inshore. +--- 2568387 +>>2568347 +have 2 for my loaners, work great for bobber fishing and basic lures so my friends can have fun too +--- 2568388 +>>2568385 +and it's cheaper with shipping at TackleWarehouse +--- 2568389 +>>2568388 +enjoy getting your stuff in 2 months +--- 2568390 +>>2568371 +haven't used TFO before but Dobyn's has a great warranty system as well +--- 2568391 +>>2568389 +Really? I thought people liked TackleWarehouse. I ordered mine from TackleDirect and got in in 3 days with the standard shipping. I'm 500 miles away too. +--- 2568392 +>>2568391 +i love their selection but their shipping is absolutely atrocious +--- 2568394 +>>2568392 +You sure it wasn't stock shipping from a third party vendor instead of their warehouse stock? That causes additional lead times. +--- 2568395 +>>2568394 +shouldn't have been +was going to try omnia but their 10% off coupon won't work on shit i actually need +--- 2568404 +>>2568391 +If you live in California, the tacklewarehouse shipping is godlike +Idk how it is if you live somewhere else though +--- 2568409 +>>2567183 +i mostly use copoly but do have mono on a reel just for general purpose stuff +in general, not a fan of braid, just run 100% fouro (either red label or advanced) +--- 2568433 +>>2568189 +What makes you suggest those over the others? +--- 2568491 +>>2568433 +Echo is a solid rod with a moderate fast action and a decent reel spooled with good line for a reasonable price and a great warranty. It's a rod you may not even grow out of, and even if you do it'll still make a good backup rod. + +The eagle claw is cheap and being fiberglass it will have a medium or maybe even slower action which is good for beginners because it gives more 'feel' and time for you to get set up between back cast and forward cast. An eagle claw was my first fly rod. I'm sure the others are decent but I don't have any first hand experience with them to say if they're good or bad. +--- 2568511 +>>2568451 +>average cane pole enthusiast +--- 2568530 +Why the fuck aren't lake trout biting, I was told rain was great, I was told my hooks are the right size and I was told shrimp scent and plastic worms or trout dough worked fine so I have to be doing something wrong. I use fluorocarbon leaders so I doubt they're seeing my line. Give me retard tips please, I have to be fucking up something major. I could get these bastards when I was a child, how have I fallen this far +I've gotten one six inch rainbow this year and nothing else +--- 2568544 +>>2568530 +They were biting on streamers this morning. Shooting stink tips from shore near a dropoff. +--- 2568546 +>>2568491 +Thanks for the advice. Both of those sound great and I'll have to think a while about what I'm gonna settle on buying. + +Another semi related question, how necessary is a net and waders for fly fishing? +--- 2568561 +>>2568546 +A net I could consider vital for fly fishing for trout unless everything you hook is gonna be super little, or you’re gonna eat them all. It’s not like it’s impossible to C&R good trout without a net, but it can be a challenge and it’s a pointless challenge. +Waders are about your tolerance for spending time standing in cold rushing water vs your desire to stick it out. I’ve gone waderless in spring and glacial flows and I’d call it doable, but my friends called me Otzi after I fished the Stillwater River in May without waders (after mine tore and I didn’t wanna pay baitshop premium prices for ones that didn’t fit me) for a couple days in 2021, because no one agrees with me. +--- 2568576 +>>2568546 +>waders +only need them for cold water, in the warm you can just wet wade which is what i do in late spring to early fall +>net +thats a tough call. i usually dont bother with a net, i can usually just grab my fish or if im planning on eating the fish i just beach them. but then some people wont go fishing without a net. if you do get a net make sure its the rubber mesh, otherwise you could damage the slime coat and do more harm than good. diff --git a/out/2566935.txt b/out/2566935.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c9373ad255e52cff2503b462dc5877a397df4693 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566935.txt @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@ +----- +--- 2566935 +The purpose of this general is to encourage people to go /out/ and find cool fossils and artifacts. This thread is also a place to share our own collections and things we find when we are /out/ hunting. + +Rules are as follows, +>To just post and discuss fossils and other related geological subjects. +>When you post about a fossil in your collection, please label it with what formation it is from, what it is, and where in the world it is from. +>If you don't know where it originated or the species that is ok, just label it as so +Helpful Links +https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/ +https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/ +https://zoom.earth/ +Geologic maps of US states (usgs.gov) +A Beginner's Guide To Fossil Hunting - Fossil Hunting Trips - The Fossil Forum + +Finally gating around to posting general number 3. College has kept me busy for the last few weeks and just haven't had the time to post what I've been finding. To start the tread are some shark's teeth I founds and posted last trad to get us going. These teeth are coming from the Eagle Ford/ Auston Chalk boundary zone Denton Co. Texas +--- 2567015 +>>2566935 (OP) +Finally managed to make it out to look for artifacts again. I'm in my rooftop tent right now in -7 C freezing my ass off but I found some points yesterday. +--- 2568273 +>>2567015 +nice to know anon, I'm prepping out some ammonites I found yesterday, no pic's yet though. diff --git a/out/2566989.txt b/out/2566989.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..710e366068f976c137ee8febed13ef941d79f165 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2566989.txt @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +----- +--- 2566989 +>goes up to the nearby mountains +>I like the mountains +>spend a lot of time and nights in the mountains +>builds a shelter +>locals in my town spot a crazy man living in the mountains +>summer comes around +>I start staying in my shelter for nights more often +>I go to my local night club +>Talk to some people +>They tell me about this crazy man who lives in the nearby mountains and I should be careful out there +>They dont know that I am that crazy man +--- 2566994 +It's pretty retarded that you didn't adjust your scarf thing over the sun glass like the other side. Sane people would never do what you did and I think you owe us an apology. +--- 2566998 +>>2566989 (OP) +>I go to my local night club +>Talk to some people +How in the holy fuck are you able to talk to people over 145dB “music”? +--- 2567003 +>>2566998 +he went there to kill everyone +nobody hears any screams in loud music +--- 2567023 +im sorry man>>2566994 +--- 2567024 +>>2566998 +the club were i was had a smoking area and i spent most of my time there cuz it wasnt as loud and i like talking to people +--- 2567028 +>>2567003 +i was thinking about it the whole time +--- 2567042 +Take the villagecrazypill anons +>be on NEETBUX +>live in a secluded manor/shack but close enough to be seen be seen by other villagers +>play dogs barking sound, screams and odd noises on full blast every other days +>wear a cloak and wander at night crawling under people windows +>spend your days roaming in the forest or sitting somewhere in the village in complete silence +>be both feared and respect +--- 2567051 +>>2567042 +You forgot the best part +>befriend the baker/butcher for free scraps so when the town gets riled up he can come in and say “I know him he’s a good man just keeps to himself” +--- 2567071 +>>2567042 +thats what i did most of last summer +--- 2567077 +>>2566989 (OP) +People really just blogpost anything these days. +--- 2567082 +>>2567077 +bad bait, throw something fresh on the hook +--- 2567088 +>>2567082 +The only bad bait here is OP's post. People should be embarrassed about the (lack of) quality of posts like this. It's horrific. +--- 2567363 +funniest thing is that they don't know I'm actually trans +--- 2567376 +>>2567088 +make your own thread, then, instead of complaining in someone elses. you probably already tried that and no one cared, so you post here hoping to shame yourself slightly less. either way, you have no self control and it's a burden on the rest of us. +--- 2567384 +>>2566989 (OP) +you sound like me kek +--- 2567438 +>>2567363 +Normally I’d recommend being euthanized but you’ve Already secluded yourself from society so i can respect it +--- 2567487 +what if they aren't talking about you and there's something else secretly watching, waiting for you to drop your guard diff --git a/out/2567001.txt b/out/2567001.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b0fc24f044edaaaf228468aff9e1ab584f4aac29 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567001.txt @@ -0,0 +1,130 @@ +----- +--- 2567001 +I have never had a quality folding knife so i dont know anything about them. Can somebody tell me what i should look for so i dont accidentally buy some tacticool mall ninja shit that market is flooded with. Are there some designs that are just better and more robust? What brands make good stuff? +--- 2567010 +IMHO, a lot of regular folding knives can do the job for hiking, since you wont be using them for batoning and other shit that is reserved for knives. If you're looking for a good, quality, and robust pocket knife, just go with either a Victorinox (anything from a Spartan to a Swisschamp) or a Buck 110. Those are really good for anything from EDC to Bushcraft/Carving. +--- 2567014 +Just buy an opinel +--- 2567034 +>>2567001 (OP) +>>2567001 (OP) +Depends on a lot of sheeeiiiit. Don't let pricks come and tell you to buy over priced "supersteel" fidget spinners. +>Opinel (No.8 Carbon/stainless is lightweight and affordable, they have many models) +>OKC RAT 1 and 2 +>Victorinox Huntsman is amazing, but they have other models depending on your shit. +--- 2567064 +>>2567001 (OP) +ignore all fags before and after this post and buy a cold steel folder + +/thread +--- 2567068 +>>2567001 (OP) +Don't waste your money on folders. Standing knives are safer. +--- 2567083 +>>2567068 +>>2567064 +T.accidentally lacerate themselves +--- 2567098 +>>2567068 +Dumb shit happens to dumb people. Do not play around with your knife. +--- 2567105 +>>2567083 +>>2567010 + +Especially opinel knives are a really dumb idea. +If you're looking for larp knives ask /k/ + +Get a buck hunting knife and a mora companion for out. Companion fits in my pocket without showing. +--- 2567289 +Opinel 6" +You can't go wrong with one or two of those. +--- 2567304 +>>2567105 +>>2567289 +opinel is overrated as fuck unless you're mostly cutting cheese and opening packages when you go /out/. no idea why anyone would want a folder over a fixed blade +--- 2567352 +>>2567064 +This anon is correct. +--- 2567353 +>>2567001 (OP) +Benchmade bugout is everything you need +--- 2567380 +>>2567304 +>no idea why anyone would want a folder over a fixed blade +No idea why you wouldn't have both. Folder stays in your pocket permanently and is there when you need it, while the fixed goes on your belt when you're performing a task that requires it. +--- 2567387 +>>2567064 +>buying coldsteel in 2023. +After Lynn sold the business, quality went down and price went up, we don't get the sweet videos Lynn would make. +If ppl don't know about cold steel videos, literally go watch cold steel demos, shit is hilarious. +--- 2567437 +>>2567387 +Quality went down, huh? I have CS knives from 1995 and 2022, and I don't see any decrease in quality. I put my new CS knives through the grinder and they're tougher than any bitchmade I own, and I own a few, +--- 2567571 +For me, it's Spyderco +--- 2567623 +>>2567571 +Are those fish okay? +--- 2567626 +>>2567001 (OP) +Buck 112 +--- 2567712 +>>2567623 +Yeah, after some butter and some lemon pepper they were just fine. +--- 2567715 +just get a Chinese replica of a benchmade osborne or something. 90% of the difference between it and the real thing is the steel. and the steel is okay/not bad +--- 2567748 +>>2567712 +Okay, I was slightly worried for them. +--- 2568266 +I would recommend a CRKT. they are cheap enough that you can afford it and use it hard without feeling bad about it, but good enough quality that youll get alot of utility out of it, especially the M-16-140, it's a great "jack of all trades" knife +--- 2568298 +>>2567626 +110 +--- 2568320 +>>2567001 (OP) +There ARE strong standouts when it comes to locking knives. +Frame locks and liner locks are the most durable, and easy to use despite some people griping about them +For steel its more like pick a type that seems ok and see what prices you can find for them and in what shapes. +You can find people comparing the steel types as well as various models. + +I went looking, figured I wanted a strong locking style, looked through steels and decided I wanted something fancy and was willing to shell out for m390, knew what sort of shape I didn't want, and went from there. +But you can get quality for a lot less. + +Spydershit makes good stuff but also a shit ton of mallninja shit, and I despise the blade shape. (Just never liked leaf shaped knives.) +Buck, Gerber, a lot of big name brands do make good stuff, though dunno on their prices. + +I went and found some italian company making fancy flippers that had everything I wanted ergonomically and spec wise, but I easily could have gotten good shit from the mainstream. +--- 2568341 +>>2567001 (OP) +The first thing you do when you want a purchase recommendation for a tool is to state what you want to use it for. +You can get a $100 G10 powder steel tank that can do almost everything of course, but that would be a waste of money and a heavy bulge in your pocket when you're just opening packages. +The grind and the thickness of a blade are also a factor so please state what the use case is. +--- 2568342 +>>2568341 +My personal rule of thumb is that if you don't know what steel you need, 440C is fine. +--- 2568343 +>>2567626 +>>2568298 +Ah yes I just love to have half a pound of metal resting at the bottom of my pocket. +--- 2568400 +>>2568343 +Belt pouch? That's what I've done for years +--- 2568402 +>>2567571 +>giant hole in the blade +Man, those things look just like the tiny keychain knives they sell at the gas station in a big plastic jar for $1. + +>>2568400 +Little fixed blade in kydex sheath sitting horizontal on the belt is still patrician choice. +--- 2568413 +>>2568343 +>t. carries a subcompact polymer .380 because metal is "too heavy" +--- 2568442 +can recommend firefighter knives +--- 2568455 +>>2568343 +User error. +--- 2568457 +>>2568402 +No it's not, Bepis, that's just autistic. If you're gonna carry a fixed blade, at least carry like an esee 4. diff --git a/out/2567087.txt b/out/2567087.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b56e5340241851bf16e304b0f6d664eca70502f9 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567087.txt @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@ +----- +--- 2567087 +Hey /out/, + +I've seen this Norwegian youtuber who wears Muck-style boots when he hikes. I thought it was funny since I can't imagine one's foot is very secure in these, but the last time I was in Norway I hiked around where he lives and noticed it was pretty mild terrain compared to where I'm from (Northern Idaho), so it makes sense that he could go for a stroll in these. I was thinking that there has to be a brand of these books that's on par with commercial hiking boots like Lowa or Salomon though, since all it would take is a good sole, but I don't know where to start looking. Does anything like this exist? I'd love to have a boot I can throw on and not worry about anything at all, and be able to go everywhere in. +--- 2567099 +they exist. Pretty much impossible to get in the US though. It's more of a Taiga boot, less useful outside of scandinavia or in the lower 48.. But I wear them anywhere +--- 2567107 +>>2567099 +Not great if you are walking steep Alps in summer or for tourist hiking on concrete and agricultural roads. +--- 2567112 +>>2567087 (OP) +https://www.xtratuf.com/xtratuf-legacy-elite-mens-15-inch-waterproof-5mm/22613.html + +My Xtratuf deck boots are comfortable for boating and general wear during heavy rain. I haven't tried their muckboots. +--- 2567136 +>>2567087 (OP) +I tried to watch this guy's videos, but he just says the same few things every video. +--- 2567175 +>>2567087 (OP) +rubber boots are normal here in norway, everyone has a pair. and 2-8 year olds use them almost exclusively. you can use them anywhere but may want different boots above treeline, they get heavy when you really have to lift your feet. two layers of good socks are required to prevent blisters and wick sweat. nothing keeps water out like a rubber boot but it keeps water in just as well. +ankle support is for old people, above-treeline-hunters and trad backpackers diff --git a/out/2567225.txt b/out/2567225.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7254ebb7d4b32242a404b5f4bb9983b4174ccf04 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567225.txt @@ -0,0 +1,134 @@ +----- +--- 2567225 +Yes, I know that the US is better than 90% of these countries for /out/ +I rated them based on primarily what I know about what natural landscapes they have available, and to an extent on how good the laws are for accessing them as well. +What do you think? +--- 2567234 +>>2567225 (OP) +You havent rated norway and sweden high enough imo +--- 2567241 +>>2567225 (OP) +I like going wild camping (as we call it) in the UK because it's a chance to get away from all the bloody people. Especially these days with the mystifying amounts of immigrants that seem to have appeared everywhere. + +There's just so many people around because we all live so close together. That nice 0.25 acre lawn you've got out front would be crammed with 3-5 more flats/houses and that would be the norm. + +Going to places like the North Yorkshire Moors gives me a chance to find a spot to settle in for a few days, surrounded by nature/"nature", and feel some distance between my soul and everyone elses. +--- 2567252 +>>2567225 (OP) +no balkans ratings at all? some of the best /out/ in europe is there +--- 2567258 +>>2567252 +I don't know enough about them and I haven't been to a single balkan country sorry +--- 2567262 +>>2567241 +OP here, I am from england. I live in wales. What you say is somewhat right, although I have quite a large garden without flats and also I haven't observed many immigrants in england outside of some major cities. +I think that there are lots of great things to do in England and Wales and that England and Wales are the best of the OK group, but just the level of degradation of nature that we have faced along with the high amount of land used simply for agriculture put us in that category. +--- 2567534 +>>2567225 (OP) +Can someone explain why Ireland is so bad? +--- 2567539 +>>2567534 +Banshees +--- 2567546 +>>2567539 +You say that as if it's a bad thing +--- 2567765 +>>2567534 +everyone says england is really bad and ireland is exactly the same for /out/, if not slightly worse, so thats why i put it there +--- 2567787 +>>2567765 +Why is it then? +--- 2567793 +>>2567787 +Relatively small amount of land +Heavy use +Long use + +Thats all of europe pretty much +--- 2567800 +>>2567793 +Large parts of Ireland are fucking deserted though? +--- 2567813 +Why is france so high? Not being accusatory, just genuinely curious +--- 2567819 +>>2567813 +ive spent a lot of time in France, hell i even speak French, France has some really nice rivers, rock climbing and very varied biomes, combined with, maybe idunno, on paper, pretty tight camping rules? (rules cant stop you if you never read them) and in my experiance locals dont give a shit + +and thats not counting anything to do with the ocean, you´ve got both coasts, and Corsica which is top 3 /out/ places ive been easy +--- 2567855 +>>2567225 (OP) +the Netherlands sucks, here's a map. Belgium deserves a higher ranking, ardennes are great. +--- 2567959 +>>2567855 +Tbh, you need a boat to enjoy /out/ the Netherlands if you don't live near one of the red-outlined area. I'm fortunate enough to live right on the upper tip of the long stretch of forest in the bottom right. +--- 2567967 +>>2567225 (OP) +>everything of note is grey +das rite faggot we're full +--- 2567976 +>>2567252 +It's shit, balkan people are shit, dont come here +--- 2567977 +>>2567976 +coming in a few months. gonna spread my seed amongst the balkans +--- 2568009 +>>2567800 +there are more and larger parts of england which are deserted. +I found this map online showing the 1km^2 blocks where nobody lives (in blue) and as you can see, Ireland has far fewer uninhabited areas and is much more evenly populated despite lower overall population density. +--- 2568010 +>>2567959 +definetly, boats are great, that's what the country is made for after all limburgbro. I used to love boating with my brother around the area. +--- 2568352 +>Poland +>very good +explain this to me +--- 2568359 +>>2567252 +>>2567258 +Slovenia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro - Best +Croatia, Albania, North Macedonia, Bulgaria - Very Good +--- 2568425 +>>2568352 +it would be on the border between good and very good but from my experience there there is a decent amount of nature and variety in the nature - on par with germany, but the restrictions are less strict or atleast less strictly enforced. Atleast outside of the tatry +--- 2568427 +>>2567241 +>the mystifying amounts of immigrants that seem to have appeared everywhere. +I thought separation of the UK from the EU was supposed to have solved this problem. +--- 2568444 +>>2567967 +>There exists people who wouldn't take a boat to the rock out cropping and then walk the entire stretch while listening to pink Floyd's marooned + +I don't want to live on this planet anymore +--- 2568459 +>>2568359 +All irrelevant shitholes, only reason the out seems good is the cities are even worse +>>2568427 +Slightly, we still lots of EU laws embedded in ours, can't really tell the success until those are gone. +Scotland should be higher. Wales, England and Ireland should at least be good. +--- 2568461 +>>2567234 +agree, the nature might be similar to or somewhat worse (short mountains) than other europe countries but the outdoor laws there puts them a significant step above +--- 2568490 +>>2568427 +The problem immigrants (if you believe in that sort of thing) tend to come from outside the EU anyway. +>>2567225 (OP) +Downgrade the Balearic islands. Ibiza is absolutely gorgeous, but if you try to spend any time camping you will have local police up your arse with an unlubricated Maglite. +--- 2568493 +>>2568459 +>Wales, England and Ireland should at least be good. +kind of agree but I didn't want this thread to become another thread totally focused on people seething about the UK for no reason again +--- 2568498 +>>2567225 (OP) +You got it right for Germany and thr Netherlands, Luxembourg, UK. Too densly populated, highways everywhere and ZOGbots patrolling looking for anons that want to go /out/. Except for some parts in Germany like Harz, Schorfheide, Southern Germany. For France, you got it right also, France is very based, wild camping is tolerated almost everywhere. Just as Schorfheide in Germany, the Region in the parc régional du Mercantour, beside Scandinavia, are one of the less densly populated areas in Europe. I see wolf tracks everytime when I go road cycling in the Schorfheide, they're fucking enormeous. I heard Romania is very based also, but they have too much feral dogs with rabies. +--- 2568523 +Ireland does not deserve to be called "OK" by any measure. A long history of agriculture means there are few large wooded areas, and no large contiguous ones. + +There is no widespread culture of bridleways, like in the UK, and a history of large farms means most farm roads/gravel roads are short, and not connected to each other, so if you're doing long hikes or cycling you have long sections of asphalt connecting any off-road section. +--- 2568549 +Why is Portugal rated lower than Spain/France/Italy? +--- 2568579 +>>2567225 (OP) +Norway should be in its own league +--- 2568580 +>>2567225 (OP) +fixed diff --git a/out/2567302.txt b/out/2567302.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fc406abc649236f811637c9c8847bcd862ebb692 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567302.txt @@ -0,0 +1,158 @@ +----- +--- 2567302 +Fuck getting skilled at bushcrafting, hunting, or backpacking and making a successful YouTube channel, just buy a Walmart tent and get stoned in it +--- 2567305 +he's doing what you daydream of doing but cheap and easy and without it even being his interest. plus you're an anally retentive autist and it makes you mad. +get a life loser +--- 2567306 +>getting mad about shit that doesn't effect you + +Yikes +--- 2567307 +>>2567305 +I think OP's point is that stoners watch low effort content because they're retarded, or is your post seething about people making fun of retarded drug addicts? +--- 2567309 +>>2567305 +>>2567306 +I never indicated I was mad, I just never realized how low the bar is for YouTube views these days +--- 2567310 +>>2567307 +i don't do drugs +--- 2567316 +>>2567309 +algorithm picks up things that don't deserve it all the time, it has nothing to do with quality of content. most youtubers now only talk about thumbnail, length, and title in terms of advertisement, because that's the only thing the algorithm looks for when deciding whether or not to push a video. +--- 2567318 +>>2567302 (OP) +The amount of pot heads that live in the forest surrounding cities is massive. The off grid fandom actively seethe about these druggies because they dont chug tens of thousands into retarded homesteads and just illegally poach and live off the land. When they get caught they get a slap on the wrist like the nigs they are because it’d be too expensive to keep them locked up +--- 2567324 +>>2567302 (OP) +The tent may be cheap, but dude's still dropping a pretty penny on his gear. +--- 2567326 +>>2567324 +Dude’s most likely on welfare like most potheads are, or dissability (have you ever met a pothead that didn’t begin listing all the shit wrong with them like they were perks in a game?). +--- 2567327 +>>2567302 (OP) +hell yeah dude +--- 2567331 +>>2567326 +>non sequitur, drugs are bad m'kay? +The glass costs four times as much as the tent, was my point. +--- 2567338 +>>2567326 +>listing all the shit wrong with them +don't try bringing up that the drugs may be a possible cause for all their issues, last dude i told that to went ballistic +--- 2567339 +>>2567331 +I've never met a pothead who was responsible with money or who had his priorities in order. For them, it's weed > everything else. +--- 2567343 +>>2567331 +He was going to have that glass regardless if he was camping or not and should obviously not be listed as a cost of entrance to potheads living on the edge of society +--- 2567349 +>>2567339 +That's a tautology. If you didn't judge a person to have "weed > everything else" priorities, you wouldn't describe that person as a pothead. You aren't talking about users of marijuana, you're talking about people who make marijuana use the core of their identity. +>>2567343 +>He was going to have that glass regardless if he was camping or not +I would give seven to two odds that he wouldn't bring that bong if he wasn't recording for YouTube. Joints, blunts, and bowls, sure, but that glass is a prop. +--- 2567350 +>>2567349 +*seven to two against +--- 2567364 +>>2567349 +>If you didn't judge a person to have "weed > everything else" priorities, you wouldn't describe that person as a pothead +False +--- 2567381 +hahahah you're all mad. I take a bunch of weed with me into the bush and go further and camp in cooler places than 90% of /out/. + +Cry more you autistic fucks. +--- 2567390 +>>2567381 +why do drug addicts think everyone's mad? we feel sorry for you bro. i hope one day you're happy enough to live life sober +--- 2567395 +>>2567381 +i take more drugs and go deeper +--- 2567397 +>>2567302 (OP) +Just be a cute girl and its even easier. +Woman-does-X always has astronomically more potential for views than any random competent bloke doing the same thing. Especially if theres a neuron activating thumbnail. +--- 2567398 +>>2567302 (OP) +Tbhfam all the milemaxing and beakbagging came when I was much older. What got me interested in camping was smoking dope and being free. I don't hate these dorks. They are idiots and I would recommend they show some restraint. But who among us couldn't have shown some restraint when we were 25. +--- 2567405 +>>2567318 +>live off the land +>the land +you misspelled 'daddy's money' +--- 2567409 +>>2567349 +>You aren't talking about users of marijuana, you're talking about people who make marijuana use the core of their identity +This man just typed the same thing twice and thought we wouldn't notice +--- 2567454 +>>2567405 +>thinks pot heads all have rich parents +>thinks the majority of druggies arent from broken households that normalized living off gov gibs so feel no shame in pretending (lol) to be retarded or crippled by fake nu diseases +ngmi anon, you need more real world experience. Captcha nGAY(u)d +--- 2567459 +>>2567390 + +So do I man, well no I don't feel sorry for myself I deserve what I get for my choices but I do hope to enjoy being sober and get more from life in the wilderness. That's the only time I really smoke anyway. Thanks for your hopes. +--- 2567503 +>>2567302 (OP) +He's not an outdoors channel you fucking retard. How are you niggers dumber than stoners? +--- 2567507 +>>2567306 +>yikes +Reddit is down the hall, faggot +--- 2567510 +>>2567349 +this poster is not addicted to cannabis +and can quit anytime he wants. +--- 2567513 +>>2567309 +It's not just how "low" the bar is. Your content has to "fit in". You need to be on good terms with the (((algorithm))). +--- 2567519 +>>2567338 +Every addict in denial does that. Why am I so depressed when all I do is watch rick and Morty, porn, and smoke weed all day? +--- 2567548 +>>2567302 (OP) +Look at this loser and his 100 lb setup. He couldnt walk a mile with all that junk. He obviously doesn't browse r/Ultralight. Smh +--- 2567570 +>>2567503 +No shit . Why are you fags so mad and quick to point out projected flaws in my post? +--- 2567673 +>>2567302 (OP) +Amen. I love car camping, bushcraft channels are fun to watch but it's way more fun to just park under a tree and set up a tent a few yards away. Plus you get all those wonderful cooking smells from your neighbors and you can take a stroll among the all-white people and admire all the little glowy lamps hanging from their RVs. +--- 2567678 +>>2567302 (OP) +>just buy a tent and get stoned in it +The ascendant outdoor philosophy. +--- 2567730 +>>2567302 (OP) +if he's in the USA the dea or local police depending might like his video evidence +--- 2567878 +>>2567730 +>DEA going after absolute whos in the woods +Every place with an actual DEA office has a crack house with mcdonalds distance that has and will continue to exist unless one of the meth heads calls in a murder. +>local police +You mean the sheriff? Too busy running ticket scams on the interstate +--- 2567879 +>>2567309 +youtube you mean the site where anyone can upload any video? you claim the bar is too low for posting content "these days"? +--- 2567880 +>smoke weed +>go outside +>people online are busy getting mad inside +Really makes you think... weed stopped being cool when they made it legal everybody knows that. +--- 2567966 +>>2567398 +Based reasonable Xer +--- 2567969 +>>2567397 +yeah x is alot of fun. 2nd most fun drug after lsd. +--- 2567971 +>>2567548 +i bet you have an ultralight micro penis. +That must give you a leg up. +--- 2567973 +>>2567879 +>where anyone can upload any video +not me. i got kicked off YT for trying to talk sense into genital mutilating, bug eating normies. diff --git a/out/2567344.txt b/out/2567344.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..05f9333d6266957a72599704aaf721e71cca5c18 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567344.txt @@ -0,0 +1,14 @@ +----- +--- 2567344 +Previous >>2567344 (OP) +Where in Norway do I go next week edition +--- 2567430 +>>2567344 (OP) +>Where +are you retarded? +--- 2567448 +Imma be kind and tell you 2 things. +1. Youre retarded +2. Ånderdalen + +Fuck off, get your own country diff --git a/out/2567431.txt b/out/2567431.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..72866e92513844827859982ee02968794ddfd01a --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567431.txt @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +----- +--- 2567431 +anyone else here going /out/ in places discovered with google earth? I haven't been anywhere else for years except for very minor excursions +it's the best tool by far to find unspoiled places far from any human disturbance including trails, incredible results even in western Europe. It's the last frontier +--- 2567433 +I've recently been in this place in Switzerland and it was amazing. there's no trail leading there, you have to fully rely on satellite maps and the swiss topographic map +--- 2567435 +another place under my radar is now Corsica. those rocky outcrops seem doable and they are surrounded by and endless pine forest +obviously, there's no trail anywhere nearby which is a good thing +--- 2567439 +>>2567431 (OP) +I use Earth as my primary research tool. +--- 2567457 +>>2567431 (OP) +Google Earth/Map is pretty much a nobrainer for scouting hunting locations. +Theres no tourist guide telling me specifically where ill find animals in a forest. I look at maps and satellite images to spot the waterholes as an entry point. Works like a charm. +--- 2567461 +>>2567431 (OP) + +Yes it's my main tool for adventure hunting. Normally you can see water and major obstacles pretty well so you can at least have an idea of what you're up against. +--- 2567472 +>>2567435 +>there's no trail nearby +>image clearly shows a trail + +This is what passes for "wilderness exploration" in a euroids mind +--- 2567517 +>>2567472 +that's the arrival point. there's no trail below and at the outcrops +obviously in europe there aren't miles and miles without a trail, but there are still small wild corners like that and GE is the perfect way to find them +--- 2567535 +>>2567435 + +What are your personal criteria for finding these places? + +I like looking along abandoned rail lines, keeping away from populated areas +--- 2567552 +Little tip for you lads, look at historic maps. You can find old trails, buildings, mines, quarries etc. Especially good for finding artefacts. +--- 2567659 +>>2567535 +i usually look for steepness, rocky outcrops, panoramic points, dense forest coverage and maximum distance from trails/roads/any obvious artificial disturbance +or anything that catches my eyes really + +pic related is the high valley of the Scrivia river, one of my recent and best hikes. try to find a good area +--- 2567665 +>>2567552 +excellent point +--- 2567738 +>>2567431 (OP) +>google earth +It just makes me incredibly depressed and anxious to see how little forest land there is left in Germany. +--- 2567786 +>>2567738 +here's your german natural park +--- 2568031 +>>2567665 +Thanks, here in my part of the UK I have access to maps from as far back as 1612, and they can tell me a lot about the surrounding area. + +My property is on top of an old farm that was there for over 250 years until it was sold and demolished. I located the place where the old well was on the maps and found it in the woods nearby. The well had been filled in with debris and refuse, and I asked permission from the local council to excavate it. + +I found hundreds of animal bones, three intact clay pipes and a couple of dozen coins. + +Use your maps people +--- 2568039 +>>2567431 (OP) +I use the Ontario Crown Land Use Policy Map. It has way better satellite images and tells me where all the public/private land is and what I'm legally allowed to do on it. + +Invaluable for hunting and planning crown land camping/canoe trips. You don't get enough info from Google maps' low res satellite images. It's good for figuring out how to get there though. +--- 2568049 +>>2568039 +>legally allowed to +stopped reading there +--- 2568056 +>>2568039 +is that a hecking lakerino? +--- 2568060 +>>2567552 +I found a long-abandoned Forest Service road to connect to much longer trails. It was behind a church parking lot, and the first 50’ or so of the old FS road was gone, overtaken by the forest. If you were at the church, you wouldn’t know it was there. The latest map that showed it was from the 1950’s or 60’s, but if you look on google earth you start to see fragments of the road, dotted among the trees. The road passes through some clearings, and is gravel in some spots. +--- 2568079 +>>2568049 +you go have fun hunting where you're not supposed to. Don't come crying here when you end up in prison. +--- 2568162 +>>2568079 +>hunting +who told you i hunt you stupid nigger +--- 2568188 +>>2568049 +Fucking same lmao. +--- 2568193 +>>2567786 +>Cities, towns, villages, highways and roads everywhere +>Pay 2500€ fine if they catch you sleeping in a camp +Yes. +--- 2568194 +>>2568193 +>in a camp +...meant to say in a tent. +--- 2568261 +>>2568162 +You did see that I mentioned hunting in my post, correct? If you're incapable of following a a simple line of reasoning then please refrain from replying to my posts. +--- 2568262 +>>2568188 +True. People who don't go /out/ don't have to worry about /out/ laws. +--- 2568322 +Seaman range was a nice hike up, nice ponderosa trees on top and a nice name, had to climb the semen range +--- 2568324 +>>2568193 +>if they catch you sleeping in a camp +that doesn't happen if you go offtrail though +--- 2568326 +>>2568262 +people that not only go /out/, but also know how to use google earth to see how much more there is besides trails, know that nobody goes off trail and there's nobody off-trail +--- 2568412 +>>2568326 +I use satellite maps to find old logging roads and ATV trails to hike along which sometimes lead to good camping spots. You do occasionally bump into other people on those. +--- 2568420 +>>2568031 + +Fantastic. I use a website called Mapspast in NZ, which has the topo maps through the years and older maps all lined up with satellite photos too so you can really pinpoint things. Not that we have terribly old maps but a lot of disused trails and old hut sites. Going to check out an old cattle track near me at some stage soon. +--- 2568428 +Sort of relevant and I don't want to make a new thread: How do I use Google Maps to identify the best places to hunt? What key features of the land should I be looking for? Ideally for whitetail. +--- 2568460 +>>2567786 +Looks like the country side of South Carolina lol diff --git a/out/2567444.txt b/out/2567444.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1762980886eee540b0e003ef86b6fc47ca519221 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567444.txt @@ -0,0 +1,41 @@ +----- +--- 2567444 +Why are they such bitches? Are they wannabe forest rangers? Why don't they clean the damn toilets? Are they zogbots? Why do they come running up as if I won't pay the campsite fee? Why do they always have yappy little dogs? Why do even exist? +--- 2567446 +>>2567444 (OP) +>Why are they such bitches? +Because we deal with cunts like you, all day, all night. +>Are they wannabe forest rangers? +No. We'd shoot you if we had guns. +>Why don't they clean the damn toilets? +Twice a day is the standard. The problem is the swine guests who spray shit all over the place like they don't have to clean up after themselves and they have no self-respect, it seems. +>Are they zogbots? +No. +>Why do they come running up as if I won't pay the campsite fee? +Because the first sign of a lowlife deadbeat is procrastination. +>Why do they always have yappy little dogs? +Bear alarms. +>Why do even exist? +People overgrown mental vacationists like you come and slop up the pristine wilderness, but beer cans, plastic, and fucking lawnchairs in the firepits, move picnic tables onto the beach, into the lakes, and just fuck off like they are 4 years old going to watch cartoons now. +--- 2567449 +Because they are old uppity boomers who got everything they want in life except real power over people so now they are given the slightest bit of power and they are gonna abuse it. Its the same as old cunts in home owners asscioations and stratas.they derive a fucked up satisfaction out of making people miserable. +--- 2567452 +>>2567444 (OP) +>>2567449 +We get it, your moms boyfriend didnt get you that gay pink DS when you were a kid and now hate all CIS people and classify them as boomers due to low iq +--- 2567635 +i don't know who the fuck you're talking about +--- 2567849 +>>2567444 (OP) +If you're going to bitch about people who manage public land, why don't you just buy your own private land? +--- 2567859 +>>2567849 +>expecting him to actually work +Being compelled to support himself is slavery don't you know. +--- 2567869 +>>2567446 +fpbp, having to constantly deal with the kind of shitstains who can't be bothered to put a shopping cart back in a corral +/thread +--- 2567884 +>>2567449 +This. diff --git a/out/2567465.txt b/out/2567465.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..befe57568101d95cdf0830bb5b6d92b611ce79cf --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567465.txt @@ -0,0 +1,145 @@ +----- +--- 2567465 +I am constantly and consistently nagged to spend more time outdoors. I am told it helps depression, I would feel better if I spent more time outside, and getting exercise. Since I hate doing both I've figured might as well kill two birds with one stone. The problem is how to make it tolerable. + +I can't endure cold very well - I experience it as physical pain. If I'm out in the winter too much my extermities start to sting the same way as putting disinfectant into a wound stings. Trying to dress for the weather is an impossible task, I am either cold or then immediately start sweating and then freeze. I live in Northern Europe so it's cold for about six months out of the year. + +The other problem is sunlight. Being in Northern Europe, the summers have significantly more sunlight than winters do, which makes summers just as unpleasant. I do not tan, at all, ever, I simply burn, and once the sunburn heals I'm just as bluish white as I was to begin with, and I hate the way sunscreen looks, feels and smells, and enduring it is just as bad as being burned. + +If I was living in a climate where it actually gets dark in summer nights and the winters aren't intolerably cold, I could imagine being outdoors would be tolerable after sunset, but where I live there isn't a single time of the year when it isn't either too cold or too sunny outside for it to be endurable. + +I don't particularly enjoy wind or rain, either, having wind burn my skin either hurts just as bad as cold or sunburns, or at least feels as disgusting as sunscreen, and the same goes for being wet. + +How do I make being outdoors more pleasant, or at least tolerable enough to make myself endure it as often as I'm told I'm supposed to? +--- 2567468 +i would try not being a faggot and see how it goes +--- 2567469 +>>2567468 +Unfortunately not an option. I'll suck cock whenever convenient, but that is not the current problem at hand. +--- 2567470 +>>2567465 (OP) +not sure i can help ya friend. you're either an outdoors kind of person of you're not. I'm not big on exercise but I still enjoy nature walks. something about being out in a forest just feels good to me. and if you lack that I'm not sure there's anything you can do to force it. +--- 2567471 +>>2567470 +Then what do I tell the people who keep nagging me to do it? I'm sick of hearing it. +--- 2567473 +>>2567471 +have you explained to these people your reasons for not going outdoors? otherwise tell them that they're not your mom/dad and you'll go where you place. if it is your parents try coming back to 4chan when you turn 18 +--- 2567479 +>>2567473 +I have tried to explain it, but they keep telling me to keep doing it until I stop hating it, arguing that I can't get over having depression unless I learn to endure time outdoors. +--- 2567480 +No judgement: You need to throw yourself in the deep end and just do it. Nobody endures cold very well, or hot, or getting drenched in rain and bitten by bugs. You're not special or unique by experiencing pain from these things: everyone else feels the same. The outdoors becomes "pleasant and tolerable" when you reach the top of that hill you're climbing, or crawl into that tent after the snow storm. Or you're just sitting in a clearing 30mins walk from your car after setting up a cheap walmart tent and reading a book by the fire. It doesn't matter how far away from home you are or your physical abilities or how much your equipment costs: Just Go Outside and sleep a single night in a strange place that isn't your own bed and report back + +>I am told it helps depression +It absolutely does 200%. The outdoors doesn't fix you like a magic pill, but it makes you realize how great the mundane things in your regular daily life are. Like having a flushing toilet and a refrigerator and an actual bed, and it changes the way you look about food when you can't wait to crack open a can of beans or eat a candy bar. Putting yourself in a strange environment brings out all sorts of alien feelings like hunger and exhaustion and physical pain that you don't feel while moping around the house like a sad sack of shit, and you come back to your regular life with a feeling of being 10ft tall and victorious and made of gold, and you might even develop some healthy eating habits out of it. + +Ignore the hateful /in/lets and just give it a try. I believe in you and I'm here for you OP +--- 2567481 +>>2567470 +>>2567471 +>>2567473 +>>2567479 +>they keep telling me to keep doing it until I stop hating it +They're taking a swift kick up the ass approach which is wrong, but it isn't that hard to comply. Are you shut into a room while staring at a computer screen all day? I'm not looking to dox you OP but can you tell us where's you're located? Like just the country and city or province or state and nothing exact. There's people here like myself that do things like bird watching or going on picnics with friends outdoors or just finding a good spot to see the stars at night +--- 2567482 +>>2567481 +I live in Finland. 70% of the country is forest and I've been dragged out there so many times in my life and no matter what, I hate it every time. + +I don't work in front of a screen but I do my work in front of a desk - alternating between sitting at my desk, standing, or other variations of weird positions that my girlfriend refers to as "goblin mode" like slavsquatting on my seat, and sitting on the floor to work.I don't have back pain or other physical issues than my inability to sleep. +--- 2567485 +>>2567481 +>>2567482 +Okay I understand. I get where you're coming from as a fellow depressed person that also lives in an snowy alpine area. Have you been medically diagnosed with depression and are you taking medications for it, or are you just down in the dumps? If I was in your locality I would buy a telescope and spend a few hours a night on the roof with a telescope and a hot flask of soup +--- 2567486 +>>2567485 +>>2567482 +Do the have the ability to take that desk elsewhere? +--- 2567488 +>>2567465 (OP) +i've heard that part of why going outside helps with depression is because you're gotten vitamin d from the sun. so maybe try taking vitamin d pills instead and see if that helps with the depression? +--- 2567491 +>>2567482 +>>2567485 +>>2567486 +Sorry for the poor english and sorry I can't stay up late to reply to further comments, but if your friends and loved ones are stressing that you "need to go outside" I'm getting strong shut-in vibes from you. Depression is a kick in the dick and the balls that only you can fix in the end and you really need to do just do it. It seems impossible until that one day that someone invites you somewhere and you agree to get taken outside your comfort zone. I don't know you but I know the way you feel all to well. Stare at the muddy slope and get creative with how to climb it and quit caring how messy you get. Enjoy drinking whiskey by the campfire with strangers. Do things that test what you think you can do and then do it again. Test that last thing you did and make a new record. + +If you're as sad and depressed as I was you'll muster all your energy and say "yes, I will do this dangerous activity that has a chance of injury or death with friends" and just conqueror it +--- 2567492 +>>2567485 +I was diagnosed with depression the first time when I was 14. I'm from one of those families that has one suicide per generation on average, and I've been on pretty much every antidepressant they thought of to try. Getting diagnosed for ADHD and properly medicated for it fixed things for a while, but after two years on concerta, the effect is wearing off. + +>>2567486 +No, not really, and I don't think my inks would like being out in the sun, wind and rain any more than I personally do. + +>>2567488 +I take vitamins daily, out of habit. +--- 2567495 +>>2567492 +Do you need someone to talk to on a platform outside of 4chan? +--- 2567496 +>>2567480 +>>2567481 +>>2567492 +I've been through what you're going through and I can give you an email or a steam address if you need someone to talk to. I've been through the same thing and know how difficult it can be to speak with friends and family about things in your head and how a complete stranger can help +--- 2567497 +>>2567491 +It's not friends and loved ones, it's people on the internet and my therapist. My partner is an absolute introvert - back in the early times of COVID, she recalls the year as remarkably uneventful because being in quarantine literally did not change her regular habits at all. + +I am an extrovert and a people person. I just hate sports and exercise and don't know how to make them tolerable. + +>>2567495 +I am seeing a therapist once per week. She's the one who suggested I should try exercising outdoors. +--- 2567499 +>>2567497 +Okay OP. I know how it is to say that you're fine when you might not be fine. When dealing with depression you might experience a big crash inside your head where you don't want to deal with your therapist. Can I give you an emergency phone number if you need it? +--- 2567500 +>>2567496 +I appreciate the offer, but this is something I've talked about with my friends and my therapist before, and still keep going in circles. +--- 2567502 +>>2567497 +>>2567499 +>>2567500 +Alright OP. Be kind to yourself and I wish you luck. Go for a walk in a park and try camping in your backyard if you have one. Setting up a tent in view of your own house can be really fun. Love your partner dearly and thank them for putting up with your struggle. Eat well and look at doing fun things with them like kayaking +--- 2567573 +>>2567465 (OP) +You are the biggest fucking pussy i have ever heard of in my life. I'm not even kidding. You ask the question "How do I learn to tolerate being outdoors?" My brother in Christ its hard for me to tolerate being inside. Just go outside. If you are too warm take off clothes, to cold put more on. If you cant do either then you fucking deal with it. Stop complaining and just do it. All you did was make up excuses why outdoors suck and how its uncomfortable. Have you read any philosophy? All of life is uncomfortable. Life isn't fair. Quit trying to use "Northern Europe" as an excuse. I live in Minnesota where it gets up to 95 in the summer and -40 (with Windchill) in the winter. There is always worse. It really sounds to me like you have other problems than dealing with the outside. Good Luck. +--- 2567588 +>>2567465 (OP) +you are not going to make it +--- 2568006 +Of course its a catfaggot +--- 2568110 +>>2567465 (OP) +Okay anon, there's a lot of lying faggots in this itt thread. "Go outside anon, it's literally panacea". "Oh suck it up buttercup, everyone hates cold". All of them kiss men on the mouth or are jews or both. +Here's what they're not telling you: you don't just "go outside". You go Somewhere to do Something. If you don't have that figured out, it will do jack shit to help with depression, and will literally just make you sick, tired and miserable. Figure outwhat is it that you'd be interested in doing outdoors, then figure out a location. It can be as simple as a roadside picnic, doesn't matter. What matters is that you set a goal and reach it, that's the thing that cures depression. As a matter of fact, this works without even going outdoors. +Finland climate is shit. The winters are cold, the sun is harsh, it's always windy and humid. Being /out/ in Finland is not fun by itself, unless you really like to challenge yourself, and if you're depressed i'd bet you're in no condition to do so. +In short: thread is full of lying jewish homosexuals, set goals and reach them, but also maybe consider having a snack in your car with windows rolled down, that's a good first step. I wish youthe best of luck fighting depression. +--- 2568187 +>>2567465 (OP) +vape weed when your outing. the best times to smoke /vape are when you have a great view on the side of a mtn. +--- 2568396 +>>2567480 +100% this, I can go for a damn 2-3 day little weekend outing and then have a full week of being happy just from having a fridge and being able to poo in loo. + +Plus ofc the other mood heighteners of having exercised, having been outside, not dealing with the internet etc. + +Also, even if you're hiking trails that are basically just walking on an even path, you do burn a decent amount of calories just by going even 20-30km per day. +--- 2568438 +>>2567479 +>I have tried to explain it, but they keep telling me to keep doing it until I stop hating it, arguing that I can't get over having depression unless I learn to endure time outdoors. +And they're 100% right, literally just stop being a bitch and do it. +40 minutes exercise a day minimum, when you're moving around you don't get as cold. Your circulation gradually improves as you do this, the cold doesn't feel as bad, you get used to it. +>I don't! +You do. If you don't you haven't done it enough. +>It physically hurts! +No it doesn't, you are mentally ill. Just stop being mentally ill. +>>2567480 +Yeah this, but in a different way. Regularity is key. Either you do what this anon says and commit to doing crazy outdoor stuff or you do it every day, just a little 2 or 3 mile walk every single day. +Once you actually do something like a 10 mile hike in poor weather though the rest of them seem easy. Pushing yourself further makes the easier ones seem easier. If that is completely undoable for you then just go outside every day and do some pointless, meaningless routine walk. Walk to a store or something, buy a 1 dollar lotto tcket there, and return home. You get used to it, at some point you see a decent day outside and actually want to go out. +>>2567573 +Yup. Literal children can do it, OP. We had kids in scouts who were like 13 years old who had to sleep outside in a shelter they made for the night in a mosquito-filled area, they did it. They were fine, they bitched a lot but less than you did. +Actual children are capable of going outdoors and having fun, you are sheltered and oversocialized. + + +Basically OP just get out of your own head, you constantly make threads and wonder if you should do XYZ and you talk to your therapist and you talk, talk, talk. Just stop fucking talking, stop thinking, get out of your head and drop the narcissism. The one thing I notice with depressed people is that they never leave their own head. Live in the outside world instead of headspace diff --git a/out/2567516.txt b/out/2567516.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ba5ae9fa34ecae5f2dd236154c707e9f475f1b8a --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567516.txt @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +----- +--- 2567516 +/out/ings with a Pipe +Old thread: >>2536427 → + +This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spent an evening by the campfire with a /pipe/ silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out. + +>how to get started +Purchase a Missouri Meerschaum Legend and a pouch of Half and Half or Captain Black tobacco, available at most smoke shops. You will need a lighter or match, and something to tamp it with--a large nail works well if you don't have a pipe tool. Fill the pipe with tobacco, pack it down halfway, top it off, pack it down to 3/4, top it off again, pack gently and enjoy. Smoke slower than you think you need to, the tobacco tastes best when it is burning cool. Tamp and re-light as needed. If you still have trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you. + +>smoking a pipe will give you cancer +While any tobacco consumption comes with some risk, the cancer risks from occasional pipe use are pretty minimal. Educate yourself and make your own informed health decisions. Some info here https://aacrjournals.org/cancerpreventionresearch/article/10/12/704/46541/Association-between-Cigar-or-Pipe-Smoking-and + +>muh weed +Not the time or place. Start your own thread + +>Historical pipe enjoyer of the day: Elmer Keith. Avid outdoorsman and hunter throughout the 20th century, handloader and firearms enthusiast largely responsible for the creation of modern magnum handgun cartridges such as .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum +--- 2567526 +Biden administration gave me a free crack pipe and I love using it in the outdoors. I feel much more energetic and a love for life when I am on the trails. Even long trails go by so quickly and it's over before you know it. +--- 2567601 +>>2567526 + +Don't need to eat either and just sleep in the skin of the last thing you killed. +--- 2567664 +I was gifted half a dozen pipes from my grandfather, including one from my great grandfather. They are caked with ash and smell like death. How do I clean them and get them ready for use without damaging them? Most of them are wood. +--- 2567710 +>>2567664 +Not bad! Out of curiosity, any brand names on them? + +Best way to clean them is with alcohol. I use 100+ proof bourbon, some people use rum or brandy, even vodka is fine just make sure it's high proof. Soak the pipe cleaner in it then run it through the stem. As for the bowl, you can ream it out with sandpaper if the cake is too heavy or smells bad. Do it gently and evenly, and as little as possible. I tend not to ream out estate pipes and just clean it with an alcohol soaked rag unless they're really bad, but some people are weirded out by the idea of someone else's cake on their pipe. +--- 2567726 +>>2567664 + +Two of them are savory's argyll (top, pictured) Another is a medico ( not pictured.) Middle one in picture is BB something, cannot make it out. Bottom does not have a brand. + +Thanks for the advice. +--- 2567735 +>>2567726 +I really love the almost flickering flame like pattern on the middle one. Happy smoking! + +Do you know what tobacco your grandfather smoked? Some flavors imprint more strongly than others +--- 2567835 +Got my first new pipe about an hour ago, before this I only had one from an antique store. Anyone have things to say about Dr. Grabow? + +I plan to primarily use this for herbal smoking (mugwort, for example) but sometimes weed. It’s got a 6mm filter in the stem. +--- 2567861 +>>2567835 +Totally solid basic tier briars. Honestly my Dr. G gets more exercise than my nicer pipe just because I'm not afraid to take it /out/ where it might get damaged. + +I wouldn't waste a briar by smoking weed out of it. The bowl geometry is optimized for tobacco. You'll have an unsatisfactory smoking experience and leave all kinds of ghost flavors in the bowl that you do not want when you do use it for tobacco later. If that's your nicest pipe I would save it for just tobacco and smoke weed and herbals out of other shittier pipes. Honestly you won't notice a difference in smoking experience if you used a corncob instead for those things. +--- 2567897 +>>2567664 +Pipe cleaners and alcohol. + +I use both bristled and plain pipe cleaners and 91% isopropyl alcohol. Works like a charm You can get iso91 at any drugstore or even Walmart for $3. Dip the pipe cleaners in the alcohol and run it through the nasty airway of your mouthpiece and pipe shank. The trash WILL come out. Alternate between wet and dry cleaners. When a wet pipe cleaners comes out clean, you are done. Let it dry out for a few hours and then get smoking. + +As for the bowls, you want the caked-on ash to be no thicker than the thickness of a dime. Some people even go back down to bare wood. There are reamers you can use, but you can use a knife blade too. Back in the day, the round-ended knife blade of the old Trim Trio keychain tool was just about ideal for the job-perfect shape, perfect length. You can use a regular pocketknife too, just don’t let the tip of the knife blade gouge the bottom of your bowl. +--- 2567970 +>>2567516 (OP) +I threw away my shitty cob pipe last week after noticing how adicted I had become. I had slowly started smoking more and more, going from smoking one 50g pouch every 3 months or so to smoking a pouch within 2 weeks. +I might wanna give pipe smoking a new try if I manage to get my hands on a brair burl to make a proper pipe for myself. +--- 2567985 +>>2567970 +It's not good for everyone. Props to you for recognizing that it was becoming a problem and throwing the pipe away. Honestly one 50g pouch every 2 weeks isn't that much of a habit, but if you noticed you were craving it or having to smoke every day you definitely made the right decision. Most people don't notice the addiction creeping up on them until they're pack-a-day cigarette smokers. +--- 2568015 +>smoking with my cob maybe once or twice a week maximum +>bowl gets hot, goes out multiple times in a row, top layer of tobacco burns to white ash, bottom layer of tobacco is unburnt, smoke tastes terribly like burnt wood after a while +>if I empty the pipe and clean it it looks undamaged and unburnt inside +It didn't do that in the beginning and I have no idea what's going on. Is this normal? +--- 2568103 +>>2568015 +It’s normal. To fully char the inside, don’t pack at all, just gravity fill your pipe, then smoke it all the way down. Including the lady few puffs when it tastes really weird. That weird taste will be the stem charring, and once it’s done, you’ll be good for the rest of time with that pipe. . +--- 2568126 +>>2568015 +>>2568103 +Another option is to remove the part of the shank that extends into the bottom of the bowl completely and fill in the bottom with pipe mud. That wooden shank bit tastes like shit until it is completely charred up. Removing it also gives you a bit more room. I just got a new cob that I'm going to do this to. +https://youtu.be/BFp7LHByWzY [Embed] +--- 2568148 +>>2568015 +Are you lightly tamping occasionally while you smoke? Sometimes you gotta help the embers work their way down. Also look up Muttonchop’s videos in packing and smoking cadence. If you don’t have success after perfecting your technique then your tobacco might be old/too dry (burns hot on the top then runs out of fuel and burns out). Also, what’s the make of your cob? Most pipes smoke good but there’s some sketchy, cheap Chinese stuff on Amazon. If you have one of those that could be a problem. When I started years ago I didn’t know any better and bought some cheapos that delaminated and fell apart after one smoke. Tasted horrible. +>>2567516 (OP) +Post your pipe collections lads. What should I get next? I kinda want something in that old Custom Bilt style or maybe a meerschaum, or something charismatic like a calabash. Can’t decide where to go next. Too many options. +--- 2568182 +>>2567985 +>Honestly one 50g pouch every 2 weeks isn't that much of a habit, but if you noticed you were craving it or having to smoke every day you definitely made the right decision. +Yeah I definitely started noticing this problem at college. I'd be sitting at my laptop in the library but feel the craving creep up on me till I'd just head on home to sit in the backyard and smoke for a while. It also doesn't help the cravings to smoke become insane when I drink, which is too often. Biggest reason for quitting was the price of tobacco, a 50g pouch of nice pipe tobacco is almost 20€. I was almost spending more in a month than my chain smoker friend who only smokes rollies to keep down costs. +--- 2568345 +>>2568103 +>>2568148 +I am reassured. +The stem is indeed a bit blackened and worn around the edges now that I look at it in bright daylight. It's a Meerschaum cob with some Seven Seas tobacco that isn't that dry, so I'll just keep smoking it. +Thanks for the support. gents. +--- 2568454 +How do I keep the fucker lit? I have a Missouri Meerschaum and a Dr. Grabow. I forget what tobacco I have (it's pretty old bit but been sealed in a plastic nag in a mason jar for 3 years). Even when it was new, or with other tobacco, I could never keep it lit well. I fill like the OP says, usually. The stuff I have right now is in little coin/coil shapes, and I've seen different techniques for smoking those that I've tried, but nother works for me. Any tips on getting a consistent pack/burn? diff --git a/out/2567593.txt b/out/2567593.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fd42f7cd123d35f68fbb11bec88c31ce77ec573f --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567593.txt @@ -0,0 +1,151 @@ +----- +--- 2567593 +Is it true that only 5% of /out/ actually goes outdoors? +--- 2567596 +>>2567593 (OP) +It appears that way because the quality posters are out most of the time and ignore bait unlike me. +A tiny amount of bitter redditors and soft effeminate faggots create the vast amount of cringe and bait posts. + +The amount of gear collecting larpers has increased though since /k/ became shit. +--- 2567619 +I unironically go fishing, hiking, camping, but 99% of my time is spent in my garden so I mainly post in hgm +--- 2567625 +>>2567593 (OP) +wouldn't surprise me +--- 2567634 +>>2567593 (OP) +I’d say it’s higher but maybe 5%!really know what they’re talking about. +--- 2567656 +>>2567593 (OP) +It's a lot closer to 5% than 100%, that is for sure. +What do you expect on a site created for animewatchers? +--- 2567666 +>>2567625 +>2017 +been some time, hasn't it? +--- 2567671 +>>2567666 +>Satan has entered the chat +--- 2567675 +>>2567593 (OP) +yep, that's why this image pisses them off so much, hits the target right on, they don't actually care about actual /out/ activities, it's just a setting for escapist fantasy. +--- 2567702 +>>2567593 (OP) +Probably true. I went on a 1.5 mile loop on my way to work this morning, I saw a small snake in the middle of the trail. Very fun. +--- 2567705 +>>2567656 +>What do you expect on a site created for animewatchers +Ironically the animefags on /out/ seem to be the demographic who go outdoors the most +--- 2567707 +I have agoraphobia. Unironically. +I will go /out/ one day though. +Gotta fight through this fucking mental illness shit first. +Wish me luck, I fucking hate this shit. +--- 2567711 +>>2567707 +Just go outside, I had the same issues 3-4 years ago and going outside cured it. There was a period of 2 years where I didn't leave the house unless I was drugged to the point I didn't know where I was. I just started walking every day and now I'm completely over it, with a few rare night terrors that bring the feeling back for a few minutes before I remember how easy it was to overcome. +--- 2567716 +>>2567666 +kek, yeah that pic is from '17 though i go there fairly often, i was out there last month just didn't take pics +--- 2567717 +>>2567707 +that's far worse in places with people, not outside. you can be alone in a quiet and relaxing place outside. outdoors are actually a cure for mental illness. +--- 2567724 +>>2567593 (OP) +>Is it true that only 5% of /out/ actually goes outdoors? +yes but it 5% by volume go out +--- 2567757 +>>2567707 +>on /out/ +>can't into /out/ + +this is ben-cohen-of-ben-and-jerries-has-no-sense-of-smell-or-taste levels of amusing +--- 2567767 +>>2567596 +These redditors. Are they in the room with you right now? +--- 2567770 +>>2567767 +Don't worry. No one has been in my room for years. +--- 2567777 +I don't know if it's 5% but there sure are a shit ton of people who LARP. It's extremely obvious to those of us with any real experience. + +Literally top active post right now +>What’s your favorite meal to cook after a long hike? For me it’s a good roast or some kind of stew. + +I'll tell you in the real world absolutely no one hiking a multi day trek carries a roast, potatoes, carrots, onions, liquid soup broth (and other extremely low calorie density bullshit), and fucking cast iron soup pan for their meals. May as well be hey guys I love camping in the remote wilderness! What kind of pizza and beer do you guys get for delivery once you get your tent setup in the real /out/doors wild? +--- 2567785 +>>2567777 +Lmao this nigga is furious at an internet post. +--- 2567794 +>>2567777 +You know you don't HAVE to eat MREs +--- 2567798 +>>2567777 +nobody tell him you can go home after a long hike +--- 2567809 +>>2567798 +Judging by the amount of "I'm a homeless drug addict" threads we have, maybe he doesn't have a home. +--- 2567829 +>>2567757 +>>on /out/ +>>can't into /out/ +I blame covid +This used to be a good board only even 3 years ago +--- 2567862 +>>2567829 +I remember a brief moment on /out/, the golden age, a fleeting time when the river shitter bait could be dropped in a thread, and a hundred posts could go by without anyone taking it. +--- 2567867 +For me it's the thinly veiled /x/ threads. I myself am a believer in spooky shit but fucking hell this is /out/ not /x/. I'm tired of seeing +>WUT IS DA SPOOKIEST PLACE YOU'VE BEEN????? +>HAVE YOU SEEN A SKINWALKER??? :OO +>CREEPIEST ENCOUNTERS WHILE OUT??? +It just shits up the board. Sure one or two spooky threads around Halloween or something but we don't constantly need fake creepypastas on /out/ +--- 2567871 +>>2567593 (OP) +I don't think this data is available agnon +--- 2567975 +>>2567705 +>Ironically the animefags on /out/ seem to be the demographic who go outdoors the most +this is the case because you have to be autistic to enjoy anime, and if their autism hobby wasn't outdoors related, they wouldn't be here +--- 2568033 +>>2567975 +It's also because us anime enjoyers don't have jobs, which gives us infinite free time to do what we want. +--- 2568034 +>>2567867 +True. The only interesting threads on this board should be replaced with more boot threads +--- 2568038 +>>2567867 +There's like 5 footwear threads and 6 homeless/runaway threads, and you complain about the one spooky thread that has been up for a month. +--- 2568065 +>>2567777 +You’re right. + +The messed up part is that oftentimes the newfag bullshit is the consensus here. Like someone says something that’s factually correct, I’ll agree, but half a dozen retards will disagree. It’s ok to have a differing opinion, but that’s not what I’m talking about. +>cooking stew after a long hike +That’s just a current example. There are always weird, retarded, and often tiresome posts popping up. Backpacking food thread? “Bring potatoes.” Navigation along the AT? “Better bring a map and compass.” Map thread? “The USGS uses a standard ratio other than 1:24,000.” Alcohol stove? “Just build a fire.” And on and on. +--- 2568067 +>>2567593 (OP) +No. It's even less. Maybe 0.9%. +--- 2568092 +>>2568065 +>There are always weird, retarded, and often tiresome posts popping up. Backpacking food thread? “Bring potatoes.” Navigation along the AT? “Better bring a map and compass.” Map thread? “The USGS uses a standard ratio other than 1:24,000.” Alcohol stove? “Just build a fire.” And on and on. +My god sometimes it feels like these are spambot posts, especially because all the newfag zoomers keep replying to those ones specifically + +I rememeber when /out/ had real outdoorsy people who were the majority userbase, now that seems to have changed to "newfag watched a youtuber backpacking video and now wants to run away from home with zero outdoors experience" threads. Worse is these newfags think theyre qualified to give advice because they saw it on some youtuber clickbait video once +--- 2568142 +>>2567656 +>What do you expect on a site created for animewatchers? +Obligatory. +--- 2568146 +>>2568092 +When was this magical time? Because I've been coming to /out/ since it got made and there's always been genuine idiots and trolls pretending to be idiots since day 1. Choke slamming wolves, kicking cairns, pooping in geocaches. If a knife thread isn't on page 1 start a new knife thread. +--- 2568351 +>>2567656 +>>2567705 +a lot of animewatchers don't even watch anime anymore they just shitpost about it and masturbate to questionable 2d porn +--- 2568353 +I go outdoors but 90% of time I don't go beyond 200m of my car. +--- 2568586 +>>2568146 +>Choke slamming wolves, kicking cairns, pooping in geocaches. +all 3 of these are based diff --git a/out/2567610.txt b/out/2567610.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..657768d379ffc1ed7a7651b0ffe711e859df20db --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567610.txt @@ -0,0 +1,163 @@ +----- +--- 2567610 +Redpill me on alcohol stoves, please. +--- 2567622 +>>2567610 (OP) +Good for a back-up plan. +--- 2567627 +>>2567610 (OP) +They’re very light, especially on shorter trips when you can only bring the fuel you need. It’s nice to have something you made, if you go the DIY route. And really there’s no reason to not try out a Fancy Feast stove, considering the price ($1 plus a hole punch and whatever trash you have for a wind screen). An often overlooked aspect is how quiet they are; nothing breaks the ambiance of a serene evening in the woods like an iso-butane stove that sounds like a jet engine. The fuel is more common than canisters, not that it really matters. + +They say they’re susceptible to wind, but I’m not sure how windy it has to be. I mean I’ve used one in some pretty windy spots, and a wind screen does what it’s supposed to do. Some claim they don’t work at high elevation or in low temps, but again, I’ve used mine at 10,400ft and 20°F (different times) and didn’t notice much difference. The latter took longer to boil, obviously. Shug has a hammock video where he uses one to make coffee on a mega cold trip in Minnesota. I think it was -30°F. He had to prime his, which isn’t means he needed a tiny amount of extra fuel. Some retards on /out/ claim it leaves a residue or soot on your pot, but that’s just flat out wrong. + +Boil time is obviously slower than a canister, but it’s a fake metric. Before pack weight was a common concern, Backpacker magazine (and later on websites) needed a way to differentiate gear that served the exact same function. Even after everyone started weighing everything, the weight difference from one canister stove to another is negligible. +--- 2567649 +How do you put them out in an emergency? +--- 2567651 +>>2567649 +This is a good question. +--- 2567661 +>>2567649 +Smother it with dirt. Dont use water. +--- 2567662 +>>2567649 +You basically just snuff them out with a meta cover. You can store the stove with said cover, and just leave it aside to use the stove. Then just put the covering on top and the fire will be deprived of oxygen, snuffing it out. +--- 2567663 +>>2567662 +metal* +--- 2567680 +>>2567662 +>he fire will be deprived of oxygen, snuffing it out. +This guy knows about the fire triangle. +--- 2567736 +Don´t you have to let them burn out all the fuel, unless you want to have it leak everywhere in your backpack, after snuffing it out? +I wouldn´t trust the cover lid. +--- 2567742 +>>2567736 +You store the alcohol in a separate container +--- 2567769 +>>2567742 +Good luck getting it back into the small opening of your alcohol container. +--- 2567773 +>>2567736 +The Trangia is fine. It’s got a very tight fitting screw-on lid with a tight fitting rubber o-ring. You can leave fuel in it with no issues. + +With other style, git gud and figure out how much fuel you’re supposed to use and just let the excess burn off. +--- 2567780 +Which works better: + +Everclear, or denatured alcohol? +--- 2567797 +>>2567769 +I'm a pro at putting things in small spaces just ask your sister +--- 2567807 +>>2567780 +Well one of them costs a fraction of the other, doesn’t leave crap all over your pot, and is labeled as “clean burning fuel for alcohol stoves.” So probably that one. +--- 2567808 +>>2567610 (OP) +They make the cooking experience so much more cozy. They are totally silent. Gas stoves are so annoying. They sound like little jet engines and they scare away all of the animals. The problem is carrying the alcohol. I've yet to find a lightweight container that doesn't leak +--- 2567810 +>>2567807 +Yeah denatured alcohol is the best. Methanol burns cleaner and better in the cold but its very toxic +--- 2567826 +>>2567808 +There are a lot of options in Amazon. Nalgene makes 2, 4, and 8 ounce bottles. I’ve been using one for a while. I’ve also heard that contact lens cleaner bottles work well but they’re a little big. +--- 2567828 +>>2567649 +trangia comes with a lid you use to manage the flame and to put it out +you do know trangia right, the finnish brand that started the whole alcohol stove thing and is the backbone of finnish army +--- 2567832 +>>2567610 (OP) +pros: +>silent +>reliable/ no moving parts +>fuel can also be used to light a fire +>no affected too much by colder temps +cons: +>heavier +--- 2567834 +>>2567832 +cons +>takes fucking forever to boil water +--- 2567836 +>>2567834 +are you in a hurry? slow down a little Bud, takes 12 minutes og peace and quiet instead of 6 minutes of jet engine noises? Yowhzerzz +--- 2567839 +>>2567610 (OP) +They're pretty good, I have one setup which combos with a wood stove and gets a supahot fire going. +Have to be careful with the risk of spilling and you can go through fuel pretty quickly +--- 2567842 +>>2567773 +>>2567736 +to add to this. the seal on mine is so good i actually was able to use the alcohol inside after literally years of storage in a hot shed. for me one full stove boils about 2 liters of water. i also like that alcohol as a fuel is a multi use item and is available in far more places than propane, important for cycle touring. +--- 2567905 +>>2567836 +Cope I like to close my eyes and pretend I'm a fighter pilot +--- 2567912 +>>2567736 +Not sure with others, but with my Trangia I just snuff the flame with the damper, then when it's cool screw the lid on. +The lid has a pretty good O ring seal, and I've not had mine leak.( yet.) + +I also carry it in a Swedish mess kit where it rides upright and is packed in a bit of foil, so that may help reduce leakage. +--- 2567960 +>>2567610 (OP) +gay af +stop using this shit and just light a fire with wood to warm you at night and cook no need to carry extra weight, get a lighter and that's it +--- 2567986 +>>2567610 (OP) +slow asf +--- 2567989 +>>2567832 +>heavier +My entire stove kit (fuel for two days, pot with a lid, bandana, spoon, lighter, stove, and winscreen) is around 7oz. A fancy feast stove is roughly 0.75oz, one use of fuel is about the same, and a small fuel co gainer is roughly 1oz. The smaller isobutane canisters are roughly 90g/3.5oz when empty. A full one is over 7oz. + +Alcohol is possibly heavier at the start of longer trips. And of course our lives Trangias for some reason, which are the heaviest option. + +>>2567834 +--- 2567996 +>>2567989 +Wanted to mention >>2567834 and boil time. It’s true that it takes longer, but it’s such a weird thing to talk about. Sometimes it takes me a little while to cook dinner at home. When I’m heating a pan in my kitchen, I don’t just stand by the stove staring at it blankly. I busy myself with other tasks. +--- 2568019 +>>2567912 +see you got one of the never ones! great kit! +--- 2568021 +>>2567996 +i think it mostly just comes down to what you are used to, ive cooked on Trangias my entire life basically, never had a failure, ive had 2 jetboils that crapped out, yea they are slower, but im not a distance hiker or ultralighter +so i prefer a system i can basically operate in my sleep with no worries of it failing +--- 2568035 +>>2567960 +You don't go /out/ +--- 2568057 +>>2567912 +Aren´t those Swedish mess kits sold for like 70 bucks at this point? +And in this good of a condition... +Lucky bastard. +I´m not sure what to think about burning water in aluminium containers though. +--- 2568061 +>>2567960 +You’ve never camped more than a few days, and only in fair weather. You’re fat. You’ve never backpacked more than a few miles, and even then your focus was on camping rather than hiking. You don’t even know the difference between camping and hiking. Your feet are softer than the inside of a vagina. You think pemmican and whole potatoes are a good choice for hiking food. You don’t have a plan (probably the most important). You think pack weight isn’t important. You have no idea what you’re doing. +--- 2568276 +>>2567780 +Both are fine. Everclear has about 96.78% of the potential energy of a 90/10 ethanol/methanol (standard denatured alcohol). + +The main disadvantage to everclear is that it can be safely taken internally and alcohol use is a factor in the majority of outdoors deaths. + +Neither denature alcohol nor everclear can be used to purify water or safely disinfect wounds. Everclear can be used to disinfect injection sites and surgical equipment. Denatured alcohol is usually cheaper. +--- 2568380 +>>2567828 +Yes, Trangias are the backbones of the Finnish army, but no, Trangia is not a Finnish brand. It is Swedish. Trangias are great though, and they never let us down when enjoying our combat ration packages. +--- 2568405 +Unless you're in a circumstance where alcohol is the only practical fuel I wouldn't bother with them. Only benefits in the majority of circumstances is they're quieter and slightly easier to source fuel for than your typical camping stoves. +--- 2568555 +>>2567736 +let it cool and pour it back into your bottle +--- 2568557 +>>2567834 +my alcohol stove boils water in like 3 minutes. +--- 2568577 +>>2567834 +>takes fucking forever to boil water +worth it. im not outside to stress +--- 2568578 +>>2567960 +How would such an esteemed outdoors man like you survive in pic rel? diff --git a/out/2567781.txt b/out/2567781.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3da0cc353720bcc92f9c5e909ee0d04d37b17a4b --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2567781.txt @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +----- +--- 2567781 +Share stories of when you have hurt yourself or had to turn back, ask for help, or completely change plans. Close calls also welcome. Mistakes make us stronger if we learn from them and we can learn from eachother. Bonus points for greentexts. +--- 2567783 +I thought I was good at making fires. I've been making fires in shit conditions for quite a while - rain, snow, rain and snow on and off for a few days. But the last couple of times when I've been out I couldn't keep the fire going unless I was constantly maintaining it by adding kindling/fuel and blowing on it. It had been snowing a fuck load then melting away then sub zero plus heavy snow again on repeat. I thought I was able to overcome this but not really. What should I do to make it? +--- 2567791 +>>2567781 (OP) +one winter i hurt my back so bad i barely got my tent together and ate 1/4 of my meal cold soaked +during the night i went trough all my painkillers barely able to move and when the sun rose i called my friend to pick me up, luckily i was 3km away from the nearest road and there were people living at the end of it +those 3 kilometers were the hardest of my life, i cut branches to use as crutches and i even crawled begging for mercy and called for my friend +when i finally got into the car and he took me home i spent 2 weeks bedridden hoping i would not have to poop today because it means 5 meter trip to the bathroom + +i admit it i was really afraid there and laying basically paralyzed trough the night might have been the worst experience of my life +--- 2567801 +>>2567783 +wildland firemaking is bugged since the wednesday patch, just use propane heat until the hotfix +--- 2567802 +>>2567791 +Your friend lost all respect for you that day. +--- 2567803 +>>2567781 (OP) +I got bit by a venomous snake once and had to go to the hospital. Shit sucked. +--- 2567806 +>>2567791 +what the fuck did you do to hurt your back that bad? +--- 2567815 +>>2567802 +he is cool all he said maybe i should get some other hobbies besides walking trough the woods +my boss was pretty pissed and he also said i should get some more normal hobbies +>>2567806 +snow gave away under my feet while i was taking off my backpack and i sprained my back when i lost my balance +--- 2567845 +I post this in everyone of these threads. but i nearly froze to death after wetting in my down sleeping bag in -10F. Im now very against down as insulation whenever possible and add a wool blanket to use as a liner when I do use a down sleeping bag. the same peopl chanting cotton kills are usually fitted head to toe in down gear. pretty silly. +--- 2567850 +>>2567802 +reminds me of link related; +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a17R56WA9aU [Embed] +--- 2567876 +packing an elk out of a ravine in sub-freezing, not sure the distance but it was at least a mile and hellishly steep. im a baby. +--- 2567921 +Long story but i promise you'll enjoy it + +>climbing granite mountain with a friend +>college age dipshits +>don't look up trail heads and parking +shit, lets just drive up to the mother fucker and start hikin' +>find a trail head to park at +>like a mile from base of mountain +>reach base around 1pm +>1 hour in, a thunder storm rolls in +>Jesus gave us a rock formation we can hind in +>2 sec after entering "cave" lightning hits in immediate area +literally no delay between flash of light and the boom +>storm stops, keep moving +>come across a camping spot with tents +>call out +>no answer +>slowly approach +>notice tents are literally torn and shredded +>lots of gear left, no one there +>nope the fuck out of that +>keep hiking up +>friend is ahead by 10 ft +>boulder is above us on this gravel incline +>he uses it to pull himself up and onto more solid ground +>i do the same and it starts fucking rolling +>friend pulls me out of way +>... +>yes we keep going +>its probably 5pm at this point +>reach a false peak as the sun is setting +>absolutely beautiful +>arizona has the best sunsets and rises +>friend is like lets keep going, the peak is right there +>fuck no we should head back +>start heading down +>night falls +>terrain has a completely different feel +descent route had more bushes and trees because we chose to follow a washout +>reach a cliff +>a mother fucking cliff +>our dim ass flashlights let us barley see the bottom +>lower friend down +>use him to climb down +>eventually reach flatter terrain +>no fucking idea where the trail head is (we went off the trail at the beginning to head towards mountain) +>find the fence we climbed to start the hike towards mountain +>fuck yes, we good +>shine flashlight at a bush... +>literally 6 pairs of eyes staring back at us, heart drops for the first time on this hike +>javelinas +>they leave us alone +>reach my shitty car +>go get taco bell +seriously, y'all. plan your hikes, even if its just a day hike +--- 2567928 +>>2567921 +Followup +We did eventually reach the peak on our third attempt. The second attempt, we parked at same trail and walked across the entire front of granite mountain. it was about 15 miles. ended up walking back in the dark again and seeing more javelinas hiding in bushes. +third attempt we found the right trail head and had a nice hike to the top. Hiked to to top multiple times after. +I just call Granite Mountain Fuck Mountain now. I hate that bitch. +--- 2567935 +>>2567781 (OP) +Every free day i dont go out and pick the comforts of my home over the glorous outdoors, is a day ive defeated by nature. +Current score is like 100-6000 in nature's favour. +#deep #mindovermatter #dontjudge #realone #youdontknowme +--- 2567940 +>>2567783 +Sounds like damp firewood (moisture inside) + +Lay some wood around (but not IN) the fire, to expedite drying. Might help +--- 2567941 +>>2567781 (OP) +I was going through some tough stuff and decided to go camping alone in the back acres of my family's property. It was nice to just sit on a log by a fire in the middle of thee forest far away from any people, houses, trails, etc. Around 9:45pm I started to get circled by a black bear, which I scared off. And then it came back and I scared it off again. And then it came back, and again, and again. By 2:45am it was getting bold and coming right into the firelight. I noped the fuck out with all my lights and my hatchet in hand, a good 40min hike back to the house with the bear trailing me somewhere in the darkness. Fuck that shit. +--- 2567948 +>>2567941 +man i would have retreated after it left the first time. call me a pussy but i ain't gonna fuck around with bears +--- 2567953 +>>2567948 +Yeah I just didn't think I'd see it again and really didn't want to leave. Next morning I bought two cans of bear spray diff --git a/out/2568004.txt b/out/2568004.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b32973c6082bb6abe9a4b9206cb2405c55e21216 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568004.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 2568004 +What is this plant specimen called? Forgot to ask the old chinese lady at the till while buying it and i dont want to over/underwater it. +--- 2568008 +>>2568004 (OP) +looks like some variety of rubba. + +overwater literally once and it's all gone. not just the plant but the soil too. + +OH and also, don't feed it after midnight or you're fucked +--- 2568050 +Anon this looks identical to my elephant bush. It’s called Portulacaria afra. I have two outside that are green and orange. And three inside that I propagated from a mother plant. The indoor plant leaves are pale green. Water once a week , more if the soil is dry. If the leaves start to fall off put it on a windowsill +--- 2568088 +>>2568004 (OP) +Jade +--- 2568111 +>>2568004 (OP) +weed diff --git a/out/2568022.txt b/out/2568022.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0959d7d818520b101e38f0e8049232200cf315b8 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568022.txt @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +----- +--- 2568022 +I didn't want to brag about it, so I didn't tell anyone. But I really wanted to say it to someone that's why I'm saying it here anonymously :3 +--- 2568023 +>>2568022 (OP) +They really blogpost anything these days. +--- 2568026 +>>2568022 (OP) +this is a stupid thread buuuuutt sigh. handicapped people go through constant bullshit that the rest of us don't go through so I'll just say it, it's nice you helped them anon. I can leap out of bed in the morning and run to the shops and bitch about the self checkout being busy, but by the time I'm done and out the door a blind person is still going through their routine putting their shoes on or making their way to the bus stop. + +I swear to god if I ever see some spoilt brat or karen or cop parking in a handicap spot I lose my shit. +--- 2568128 +>>2568022 (OP) +i raped my infant sister today +--- 2568173 +>>2568022 (OP) +This is either annoying bait and a waste of a thread or you're genuinely a gratification seeking asshole diff --git a/out/2568123.txt b/out/2568123.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8882ec54d69bf4b4c6ad6560e84d5f1619b1507a --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568123.txt @@ -0,0 +1,52 @@ +----- +--- 2568123 +Does anyone know a way to either genetically modify grass so it doesnt grow or is there some better alternative that we can start using in our yards so we dont have to cut grass? Maybe replace all grass with moss? We have been living with the same stupid types of grass for thousands of years and it completely blows my mind that nobody has ever thought to make a better alternative to what is one of the most annoying things in the entire universe. +--- 2568127 +>>2568123 (OP) +Gravel or clover +--- 2568130 +>>2568123 (OP) +Just turn your yard into dirt if you're so lazy you can't cut the grass every 2-3 weeks. +--- 2568135 +>>2568123 (OP) +seconding >>2568127 +or even better yet figure out what wildflowers are native to your area and plant that to attract native pollinators. +--- 2568137 +>>2568135 +I kind of like this idea +--- 2568149 +Moss lawns are a thing, anon +--- 2568156 +>>2568127 +>clover +this +--- 2568163 +>>2568123 (OP) +>t. has never been to the Southwest +Do something like picrel. Use plants native to your area. +--- 2568179 +>>2568127 +Clover is good, pretty tough, spreads well, even has some pretty flowers. +--- 2568200 +>>2568123 (OP) +plant micro-clover +or +dig water retention pits and turn your yard into a wildflower meadow +your neighbors are going to think you're a slob and you'll still have to mow a pathway because you're going to have a lot of ticks but it's nice to look at if you have a good seasonal mix +--- 2568203 +>>2568130 +>t. suburban grass farmer +--- 2568217 +Don't go the gravel route. +Grass, as irritating as it can be, helps cool your yard down. Don't replace it with a materi that stores and reflects heat. +Use something like zoysia tenufolia or clovers or moss. Sew wild flowers, groundcover fruit vines/vegetables. +If you have a large area plant some good sized trees and then just kill the grass and mulch everywhere. Over time add some smaller interesting shrubs. +--- 2568222 +>>2568123 (OP) +faggot, grass is pretty +--- 2568243 +>>2568123 (OP) +get a fence and a cow/goat/sheep/robot mower +--- 2568431 +>>2568123 (OP) +faggot diff --git a/out/2568170.txt b/out/2568170.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7b24c2be34c57d5367ede93f21b1f99f9c0e2a57 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568170.txt @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +----- +--- 2568170 +I am 26 and I have been suffering with mental health and insomnia for a few years. + +My.plan is to fill a good hikimg pack with a tent, sleeping bag, all the essentials that would fit in a 55 litre bag and just book a flight to Europe (Im from UK) I am in reasonable shape but have no camping or wildlife expetience, I will maimly be travelling through Eurppe maimlu near cities but sometimes wild camping and just going until I find some form of meaning or experience as much of Europe as I want. I will be staying at hostels as well and I have a few grand for hostels and city experiences etc. + +How do you see this going for me and any advice? +--- 2568171 +>>2568170 (OP) +>expetience, I will maimly be travelling through Eurppe maimlu +--- 2568172 +>>2568170 (OP) +If you're already flying to another country why don't you go to one with actual hiking trails? +--- 2568174 +>>2568172 +I plan on travelling through Europe, getting trains and buses and occasionally staying in cities for a few days and staying in hostels occasipnally etc +--- 2568177 +>>2568171 +my bad, been awake for the last 30 hours +--- 2568178 +>>2568174 +So you're just going to be a homeless city faggot? That has nothing to do with the outdoors. +--- 2568181 +>>2568178 +No outside the cities, I dont want to be eaten by fucking bears I live in the UK fuck sake +--- 2568186 +Also what are some essentials to buy +--- 2568231 +>>2568170 (OP) +Firstly cross the channel to calais and get robbed, that might just be enough evropa for you. +--- 2568232 +>>2568174 + +Good way to fuck tourists, go for gold. +--- 2568242 +You'll be dead inside of a month. Sorry. I hope its painless. +--- 2568259 +>>2568170 (OP) +>how do you see it going for me? +Very poorly if you don’t have a more concrete plan. + +I’m not sure if “backpacking across Europe” is still a thing, but it was extremely popular in the 80’s and 90’s (I think crime may have changed it). Anyway, during that time there was a differentiation between backpacking in Europe (exactly as you described it) and backpacking in the US (which is strictly camping and hiking). + +There are options in the US that are very safe (from both bears and Americans). The Appalachian Trail is the obvious choice. It’s well established, so the logistics are very easy to work out, and there’s support along the route in the form of hostels, easy resupply options, and guidebooks. I’m not sure how expensive an international flight is; I’d guess maybe $500. Then it’s very roughly $1,200 a month to hike the AT (that’s how much most people spend; it could probably be a lot cheaper). + +Europe has the Camino de Santiago, which again has support along the way. And it’s also an established path, so the planning is easier. I think it’s mostly hostels, and definetly worth looking into. + +I can’t stress the planning enough. If you try to wing it with zero experience, you’ll end up having a shitty time then going home where it’s familiar and comfortable. +--- 2568310 +>>2568170 (OP) +Fuck it, I'll bite. If you can make it to Malaga, Spain on the 15th of May, I'll hike with you to the strait of Gibraltar. Provided you have some hiking experience and can hack 9 consecutive 25km days without complaining. We'll be camping illegally most nights. + +Here's my Lighterpack for inspiration: +https://lighterpack.com/r/te5i6c +If you haven't bought anything and have money to spare, I'd suggest replacing the big three (pack/shelter/sleep system) with some lighter options. +--- 2568368 +>>2568170 (OP) +Try "wild camping" in scottland first before going abroad. Cape Wrath Trail. You will benefit from the expetience. +--- 2568548 +>>2568170 (OP) +If the money is enough to fill up supplies then you are good. If not, then you will need to do some jobs. Look up Forestanon on Youtube. He had a similar story. Depression, etc. Going outside and living a bit in the wild is the best thing to do, but don't waste it on hotels. Find yourself an area that is remote. I recommand the Parc régional du Mercantour in southern France. Low population density. You will need to be alone for some time, but bring a radio with you to listen to comfy classical radio stations. Debussy, Bach, Mussorgsky, Tchaikovski heals the soul. You are one the right path, anon. I just came home from a 1 week trip to my cabin in Lorraine in northeast France, it was great, I feel better now. +--- 2568551 +>>2568170 (OP) +Also, you need a steady place to stay like a canvas tent in a remote valley with a portable wood stove to feel at home. Wood stove+tent will cost you about 600€, maybe less if you buy used stuff. Don't go for some expensive lightweight homosexual nylon tent that you need to pack up every morning in a city park. Buy yourself a frame bagpack and haul your shelter to the place you whish to stay and go back to a city to buy food and supplies. diff --git a/out/2568211.txt b/out/2568211.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0b66f6a9a2874c3298c4d43164618758bfdf37b7 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568211.txt @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +----- +--- 2568211 +>stoveless camping +is this a meme? I do hate dealing with the things (and I have a pretty nice one). It adds weight and I'm so pooped at the end of a day crunching on a candy bar gives me as much enjoyment as a nice pot of stew. +Anyone try it? +--- 2568213 +>>2568211 (OP) +I take a lot of pleasure in cooking while camping. I like getting in touch with my ancestors who did the same. +But I don't want to get in touch with my ancestors in the early pleistocene +You do you boo. +--- 2568215 +>>2568211 (OP) +I hope you like oatmeal and lentils. +--- 2568216 +>>2568215 +I hate oatmeal and lentils +--- 2568227 +>>2568211 (OP) +Maybe it depends on where you camp, but in the Pacific Northwest I really want a hot meal at the end of the day. . .and in the morning for that matter. +--- 2568238 +>>2568211 (OP) +i live in grizzly country and it has been something ive thought about due to broadcasting smell when you cook but i've come to the conclusion that theyre gonna smell whatever you have hot or cold no matter what. +--- 2568240 +>>2568211 (OP) +just take food that doesn't need cooking, there's no need to cold soak oatmeal +it doesn't have to be cans of whatever, dehydrated instant potatoes can be made with cold water for example, tortillas, crackers, cheese, dried meat and fruit, peanut butter, etc. it's really easy +no hot drinks though +--- 2568241 +>>2568240 +instant potatoes are the shit +--- 2568248 +>>2568211 (OP) +I have never backpacked with a stove. +3 energy bars per day (1000 calories) is enough. +--- 2568249 +>>2568248 +You’ve never camped more than a few days, and only in fair weather. You’re fat. You’ve never backpacked more than a few miles, and even then your focus was on camping rather than hiking. You don’t even know the difference between camping and hiking. Your feet are softer than the inside of a vagina. You think pemmican and whole potatoes are a good choice for hiking food. You think pack weight isn’t important. You have no idea what you’re doing. +--- 2568257 +>>2568249 +Not correct on a single point. +>You don’t even know the difference between camping and hiking. +I didn't use either of those words. +--- 2568264 +>>2568257 +It's a meme he's trying to force. He's replied to me with it twice in the last month. +--- 2568271 +i like warm food, eating cold slop in the rain is miserable +--- 2568278 +>>2568211 (OP) +Yeah I usually just eat the animals raw that I kill during my backpacking trips. On my AT thru hike I ate a lot of raw fish. If I found a productive stream, I'd bag up 10 or so for the next couple of days and that kept me going. I took down some wild game every now and again. Small game, some raccoons and a big deer one time in Georgia. I ate it all raw. The deer lasted me a while. I had a harness on under my backpack and would drag the deer along trail and cut off portions whenever I was hungry. Never got sick or nothing. No need for one of those little stoves or tools for a fire, unnecessary weight. +--- 2568279 +when I was doing a section of the AT in north carolina, I met a guy that had crushed uncooked ramen noodles for dinner. i asked if he wanted any of my meal or if he wanted to use my pot/water to cook it and he just said "nah". then in the morning he tore open a packet of that flavored oatmeal and just poured it down his throat. kinda based, but why +--- 2568280 +>>2568211 (OP) +Have hot chow is a morale booster. A small gasoline powered stove is light weight. Works for days on one tank. I would not do the cold slop. +--- 2568294 +>>2568211 (OP) +Where are you people hiking where you aren't allowed to make a fire? +--- 2568299 +>>2568211 (OP) +cooking on the campfire is half the fun of camping. Not sure why you would subject yourself to cold gruel when you don't need to. If you want to be lazy just stay home and order takeout. +--- 2568300 +>>2568238 +>but i've come to the conclusion that theyre gonna smell whatever you have hot or cold no matter what. +Correct. They'll smell a chocolate bar in your backpack in your tent from a mile away. +--- 2568319 +>>2568300 +As it turns out, your prison wallet is perfectly sized for a delicious snickers bar. Or is a snickers perfectly sized for your prison wallet? This is one of them riddles that the Buddhists have keep you up at night. +--- 2568325 +>>2568278 +> unnecessary weight +> drags a deer +--- 2568360 +Would do this before I could afford one but I would just make a fire...I'm not a ul fag +--- 2568361 +>>2568264 +It's called copy pasta you newfag idiots lmao it's not one guy spamming it +--- 2568367 +>>2568211 (OP) +You should camp more often if you have to ask this stupid question. +--- 2568373 +>>2568264 +I’m the one who originally typed it, and I’ve seen it as copypasta, so it’s definetly not just the same person. +>called me out on my bullshit twice + What does that say about you? +--- 2568377 +>>2568249 +post feet +--- 2568378 +>>2568211 (OP) +It’s pretty common. Just so the /k/ retards and newfags know, people do this when their focus is on hiking rather than camping. The idea is to save weight and hassle at the expense of comfort. The agreed upon term is “no cook” or “stoveless” (not very creative but that’s what everyone calls it). + +I’ve tried it and didn’t really find it to be worth the weight savings. My pack is pretty light, and for me it’s a substantial amount (percentage wise). But boiling water isn’t that big of a hassle, and prepared food just tastes a lot better. I’d never try it in colder weather. That just sounds miserable. +--- 2568401 +>>2568211 (OP) +I do it pretty regularly. + +I just pack trail mix and jerky and other snack foods. Why do these fags need to soak everything with water? You could probably do the entire AT just eating trail mix. +--- 2568429 +Fuck no its sacrilege to walk past a spot that looks like the ideal place for a hot cup of tea/coffee. diff --git a/out/2568233.txt b/out/2568233.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..cb0b356abeed780c2085a638d44c66aa6f88e1cc --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568233.txt @@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +----- +--- 2568233 +If so, is it the regular EVA or the inflatable one? +--- 2568234 +>>2568233 (OP) +Just get a military issue cot. +--- 2568236 +>>2568234 +It's for the outdoors. +--- 2568272 +>>2568233 (OP) +yes. the standard one was the EVA foam roll but i'd step up to a modern inflatable one +--- 2568275 +>>2568233 (OP) +It really helps prevent heat loss. We went from using a poncho liner to using these. Nice to stay dry. +--- 2568291 +>>2568233 (OP) +I didn't use the sleeping mat my first few years as a grunt. Eventually got fucking tired of my shoulders and ass being cold in the morning, started using the issued sleeping mat (puss pad, as we called it), and never woke up even remotely cold ever again. + +The MSS, the M81 woodland one in your pic, was issued with a roll-up EVA mat like pic related, though the shade of green varied depending on the year. The newer IMSS uses an inflatable mat. +--- 2568296 +>>2568291 +What kind of field problems didn't let you bring cots? + +Sure I went without cots many times when I was in the army. Mainly in airborne school and sapper school. But for real I have even slepped outside of the wire in Afghanistan which they very regularly let anyone do. Even special forces boys sleep inside the wire every chance they get. But every single time I slept outside the wire it was on a cot. + +If you are taking a 6 pound 3 bag sleep system why aren't you taking a 1.4 pound aluminum cot? +--- 2568303 +>>2568234 +Cots suffer the same cold bottom issues as hammocks +--- 2568305 +>>2568303 +The far better thermal conductivity? Go sleep on a concrete slab. +--- 2568417 +>>2568233 (OP) +Strictly speaking, it doesn't NEED one, but you'll have a better time if you use one. I throw an air mat between the bivy and the sleeping bag so I don't slide off it during the night. +>>2568296 +>1.4 pound +Haven't seen an issue cot that weighs that little, or packs down small enough to be practical for carrying around. We always piled them in the LMTV. +--- 2568462 +>>2568417 +Holy shit I must have been so drunk when I wrote that. Yeah I spent most of my time as a combat engineer doing route clearance we just piled them all on the wrecker. And sure there are light infantry units out there thank God I never was assigned to one. But drunk or not I still stand by the fact that if you are taking the giant and heavy 3 bag sleep system you might as well take a cot. + +I improved on it for myself. I have a lightweight snugpack jungle bag and a lightweight sea to summit down bag, if I use them together I'm pretty comfy down to about 15 degrees. It's a much smaller system. The army taught me a lot of good ideas, you just need to get the industrial scale production and teaching to retards aspects out of it. +--- 2568488 +>>2568303 +If you're not in a tent or dug shelter for some insane reason you can hang a blanket off the edges to prevent blow-under. +--- 2568533 +>>2568462 +>super drunk +>combat engineer +I might have known, kek +--- 2568568 +>>2568233 (OP) +I have picrel and I use an inflatable sleeping pad, I keep getting holes in it so I’m probably just going to get a foam one and cut it down to the size of my upper body/waist to save on bulk/weight and just use that. I’m a little bitch and I sleep in the fetal position anyway. diff --git a/out/2568301.txt b/out/2568301.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..49debe58b110d96adf7d3d5c35b022e2f1937665 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568301.txt @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +----- +--- 2568301 +USDA Hardiness Zone Map: https://garden.org/nga/zipzone/ + +Pastebin: +https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87 (embed) + +Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.png (embed) + +Search terms: +Agrarian, Agriculture, Agrology, Agronomy, Aquaculture, Aquaponics, Berkeley Method Hot Composting, Cold Frames, Companion Planting, Composting, Container Gardening, Core Gardening Method, Cultivation, Deep Water Culture (DWC), Dry Farming, Espalier, Farmer's Market, Forest Gardening, Forestry, Fungiculture, Geoponics, Greenhouses, Homesteading, Horticulture, Hot Boxes, Hugelkultur, Humanure, Hydroponic Dutch Bucket System, Hydroponics, Keyhole Garden, Korean Natural Farming, Kratky Method, Landscaping, Lasagna Gardening, Ley Farming, Market Garden, Mulching, No-till Method, Ollas Irrigation, Orchard, Permaculture, Polyculture, Polytunnels, Propagation, Rain Gutter Garden, Raised Beds, Ranch, Rooftop Gardening, Ruth Stout Garden, Sharecropping, City Slicker Composting, Shifting Cultivation, Soil-bag Gardening, Square Foot Gardening, Stale Seed Bed, Sugar Bush, Truck Farming, Vermiculture, Vertical Gardening, Window Frame Garden, Windrow Composting, Alpaca, Snail, Toad, Trumpeter, Turkey, Worm + +Previous: >>2562238 → +--- 2568302 +>>2568301 (OP) +Behold my pepper autism +Which wild peppers should I grow +--- 2568332 +>>2568301 (OP) +>soon potato in the ground time +--- 2568443 +>>2568440 → +So I just let it chill and water every now and then until they make new growth? +everyone says mulberry is the damn easiest and fastest twig to root and grow +hell its even making young fruits now, but I dont want them to end up rotting like last ones + +I just want a bunch of mulberry small trees, is there anyone that can tell me more info on rooting them? I think they're a popular fruit, but not here where I live yet (climate is good for them tho) +--- 2568445 +>>2568443 +this is pic for reference +usually they have half a 5 l plastic bottle as dome above them but I heard woody cuttings dont like humidity constantly +thus far it seems one of the thicker is getting some little mold, so I did this to help +I basically rounded up my branches, cut them in a way that they had a couple nodes, cut the tip of the lower one and pulled anything like a bud so it could grow roots, I also scrubbed the end with a knife until the white pith to ease them same +plop them in the good soil compost, watered once slightly and domed it, havent watered since then as soil seemed to recycle its humidity +--- 2568446 +>>2568445 +sorry for pic dump +2/4 +--- 2568448 +3/4 +--- 2568449 +>>2568448 +>>2568446 +>>2568445 +4/4 +--- 2568450 +>>2568449 +it's basically spring now, so I feel the green is just coming out from inertia, because i pulled one of the less leafy ones out and didnt seem to have any roots +granted I could have torn them, dunno how frail and thin they are for mulberries, but didnt feel like that +--- 2568473 +new thread repost + +>>2568393 → +sorry for being a noob. may i ask what are these blocks and how do you make them? +don't they dry out quick? +--- 2568475 +>>2568301 (OP) +Thoughts on the feasibility of following abandoned railroad tracks and using them as a planting space for melons? +Basically melons and pumpkins just take up too much fucking space but i know where some recently abandoned railroad tracks are, so could I commandeer some land and just let some melons grow? +--- 2568478 +>>2568301 (OP) +How's the compost coming, boys? +--- 2568479 +it's got what plants crave +--- 2568496 +>>2568473 +my blocks are made from 4 parts sifted peat and 1 part sifted composted cow manure. You use something called a soil blocker. Takes a bit to get used to how wet it needs to be. I like them a bit wetter than most of what is on youtube. +The bigger blocks don't dry out any faster than standard 4 o 6 packs. The smaller ones do but like any gardener you just need to keep an eye on them. +--- 2568497 +50 marigold seeded +--- 2568509 +>>2568473 +Soil blockers +--- 2568513 +>>2568509 +>>2568496 +very interesting, looks like an efficient way to get things started. thank you anon +--- 2568528 +>>2568513 +just make sure you don't use old peat moss like I did doing the second batch. The blocks should look like thick mud. But with old peat they look like wet dark sawdust. +--- 2568541 +>>2568513 +you can also do blocks with just your hand if you want, i dont like the idea of having 10.000 gadgets, i even thought of buyin an hori hori knife but i can just buy serrated knifes at a chink store if i wanted to cut through soil (darn roots) +--- 2568545 +Can anyone give me an emergency ID on this? I'm almost certain it's a mold. I'm in Kansas and it was growing on my indoor gardenia. It's had recurring issues with what I'm almost certain are spider mites which I've been dealing with by spraying it with a mixture of around 2q water, a tablespoon of vinegar, and a few drops of dish soap. I was going to repot it and saw this and immediately took it outside, now I'm concerned that something might be spreading under my nose and I have a tray of seedlings that might be affected if so. +--- 2568559 +Anyone know anything about lupines? Is there really such a variance in the hue of the colors, or do some seed sellers just photoshop the images to appear more vibrant? +--- 2568566 +Is this kind of thing any good? +--- 2568571 +>>2568566 +>no dig +That's pretty funny. What you should do is kill two birds with one stone and till your garden beds and then use all those rocks that come up as the edging. +--- 2568574 +>>2568545 +it's just sitting in water. put a triangle of rocks or something under the pot so there's an airgap between it and the base. diff --git a/out/2568458.txt b/out/2568458.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8c732d9beb12c7fc3e7490deb9b87538a6a80d35 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568458.txt @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +----- +--- 2568458 +is there a way to clip a machete to my pants? every sheath has a belt loop but i don’t wear belts i’m usually wearing shorts. +--- 2568469 +>>2568458 (OP) +You should have a spool of nice thick wire anyway anon, it's very useful +--- 2568470 +>>2568469 +and you can make a belt hook out of it, obviously +--- 2568472 +>>2568458 (OP) +You can wear a belt even if your biking shorts don't have belt loops. +--- 2568514 +>>2568458 (OP) +Just go buy some cargo pants. And cut them off to make shorts with belt loops +--- 2568519 +>What is paracord +--- 2568522 +>>2568519 +meme rope +--- 2568534 +>>2568458 (OP) +I have a cheap nylon belt that I clip my machete to. It's like a duty belt solely for it. I can easily take it off or sling it in a different location. +--- 2568556 +>>2568534 +link? diff --git a/out/2568463.txt b/out/2568463.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fb4aeca639cf2c474689a7094db770f5c47cd432 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568463.txt @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +----- +--- 2568463 +Let this be the year you abandon the conformity and money-centricism of society. Let your inner self /out/. +--- 2568482 +>>2568463 (OP) +Damn Andrew Tate really is on a deep internal journey since prison. +--- 2568508 +Agreed. diff --git a/out/2568464.txt b/out/2568464.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5817a2db6921863ed634d868972d9f9eb870d498 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568464.txt @@ -0,0 +1,45 @@ +----- +--- 2568464 +I'm a tranny. I sit inside all day looking for threads to post this image on. I have clearly escaped the cycle by refusing to exist within the confines in which the cycle itself exists. + +I am superior. + +I am immortal. +--- 2568466 +>>2568464 (OP) +Just like the tranny meme, this doesn't hurt the people you're trying to hurt. + +I can look down and see my dick. I know I'm not a tranny. Also you can call me a LARPer all you want, I know what I've hiked. + +Perhaps it's the idea of caring about what others think of you that makes you so gay. But I don't know. I'm not an indoors tranny. +--- 2568467 +>>2568466 +You are a LARPer +--- 2568477 +I've seen pics and posts like that before when I was a shut in neet and they help long term if they make you upset +--- 2568481 +>>2568477 +I love to take life advice from losers. + +Do you fbi retards even think before you post? +--- 2568487 +>>2568477 +I don't think they actually do, because the board has seen a measurable decrease in post quality over the years. /out/ is inundated with "I'm le tired of society and I want to run away innawoods" threads, posted by /in/cels that won't actually do something as simple as going outside for the first time. They post about it constantly, but they don't do it. +In any case >>2568466 is right. This thread just makes OP look like a spastic. +--- 2568494 +>>2568464 (OP) +seething maladaptive daydreamer. literally go outside and this shit wouldn't bother you. +--- 2568512 +>>2568494 +I only go outside to convince myself that I'm not a seething maladaptive daydreamer. + +It's all over. +--- 2568518 +>>2568512 +I actually believe that. +--- 2568567 +>>2568464 (OP) +>that feel when I grabbed this as the first thing I could find on google images for shitting on a runaway from home poster awhile ago and watched how it has grown legs and paid such dividends in lulz +--- 2568587 +>>2568567 +Larp diff --git a/out/2568480.txt b/out/2568480.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..93a353674f7fb707470573efed3d8869661cadab --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568480.txt @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@ +----- +--- 2568480 +Thoughts on brapping while /out/? +--- 2568483 +>>2568480 (OP) +better /out/ than in +--- 2568485 +>>2568480 (OP) +Yup, it's a nu-/out/ post. +--- 2568500 +>>2568485 +Newfriend here, develop your hypothesis +--- 2568505 +Only when I pass woman on the trail. Especially when they are blonde and attractive. I then stop and stare at them. When they pass me, I follow them closely and do little braps from there on with every 5 steps I take. It is rape that is the end goal. +--- 2568582 +I brapped in the same spot Ansel Adams must have brapped. diff --git a/out/2568560.txt b/out/2568560.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6c57897783a45e24ce7ec0f49f387af2d5d815c6 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568560.txt @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +----- +--- 2568560 +Anyone working on any DIY projects? + +I just finished this meme half-pyramid tarp from some simple, free plans I found at a site called Switchback Gear. It’s barely tall enough to sit up in but long enough to sleep under. I’m 6’ 1”. Without doors and some kind of bug protection I couldn’t see using it anywhere but in the most pristine, insect-free area during a drought. + +Really I made it just to practice sewing. It came out ok. It’s only saggy in the pic because it’s super windy, the ground is really soft from two days of rain, and the dog on the right jumped on it. I told him to get in, and he thought I meant on. + +I need a better plan for grosgrain tie out loops. They looks sturdy but certainly not neat. Also one of the seams on a short side came out twisted and I don’t know why. +--- 2568562 +Twisted seem diff --git a/out/2568565.txt b/out/2568565.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c5c7d4bf50ac52d6853d845982cc45b49861a552 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/2568565.txt @@ -0,0 +1,37 @@ +----- +--- 2568565 +I am going on a several hundred mile trip soon. I’m preparation I have been going barefoot as much as possible to toughen the soles of my feet. I already know to change socks often and to put bandaids over blisters/hotspots etc etc. I have only been on shorter trips, so while I realize taking care of my feet is vitally important, I don’t have experience in doing it long term, just the basics of changing socks and using blister bandaids, and that’s about it. + +What should I carry in my first aid kit to keep my feet in good condition? I see a million different foot powders and tinctures and creams, I know nothing about these things so I am unsure what to get. + +For reference I will be in a hot and humid environment. +--- 2568569 +It's kind of nuts to think about how far we have fallen as a species. People used to trek hundreds of miles wearing sandals or barefoot. +--- 2568570 +>>2568569 +Agreed +--- 2568573 +>>2568565 (OP) +You want moleskin for blisters. What you do is cut out a ring that goes around (not over) your blister. Gives it a nice cushion and lets you keep going. +--- 2568581 +Fuck that shit torture your feet and go hobbit mode. +--- 2568583 +>>2568569 +people also used to live to 30 +what’s your point +--- 2568585 +>>2568573 +Thanks for the advice, I had never heard that before + +any other tips anyone? +--- 2568589 +>>2568565 (OP) +I find that moleskin and bandages tend to fall off a lot, so if you take athletic tape, that stuff they use to stabilize joints, then wrap the bandage with it they can stay on for days at a time without issue. Also, if you start to feel rubbing, stop immediately and bandage it or it just gets worse. There’s also these things called glacier gel bandages so if you do get a bad one that helps keep the blister from drying out and hurting. They’re a godsend. +--- 2568592 +>>2568589 +I have heard benzoin helps with tape falling off? Is it any good? +--- 2568593 +>>2568585 +>>2568589 +>athletic tape +If you put liquid bandage on the sticky side of the moleskin it sticks a LOT better diff --git a/out/38571.txt b/out/38571.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a1f8a0c4df15e11293bbd3ed72ede6ca025174d3 --- /dev/null +++ b/out/38571.txt @@ -0,0 +1,52 @@ +----- +--- 38571 +We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include: +>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.) +>Gardening, farming and related activities +>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching) +>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc. +>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.) +>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.) +>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.) +>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.) +>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.) +>Gear related to any of the above topics + +Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!! +--- 2400527 +Useful websites: +>Meet ups and social +https://www.zeemaps.com/ +https://www.meetup.com/topics/walkers/ + +>Useful tips: +https://www.mountaineers.org/locations-lodges/olympia-branch/committees/olympia-hiking-backpacking-committee/course-templates/conditioning-hiking-series-olympia/course-materials/ten-essentials/at_download/file +https://ia600904.us.archive.org/3/items/Fm21-76SurvivalManual/FM21-76_SurvivalManual.pdf + +>Scouts worldwide: +https://www.scout.org/ +http://lnt.org/ + +>Gardening advice: +http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/ +https://gardenforumhorticulture.co.uk/gardenanswers/index.htm +http://www.lovethegarden.com/ + +>Outdoor sports: +http://www.outdoor-sport-leisure.net/ + +>Camping: +http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/expert-advice/the-beginners-guide-to-camping +http://www.campingexpert.co.uk/ + +>Hunting: +https://www.nssf.org/hunting/get-started-hunting/ + +>Hoboism: +http://www.artoftravel.com/ +http://www.vagabondjourney.com/ + +>Geocaching: +http://www.geocaching.com/ +--- 2400529 +Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.