diff --git a/k/57772495.txt b/k/57772495.txt index 529e9b6cfc9be9d7b8c4c4b598110724761cfb71..e9be9c56534ef99712193350238b0e034a7e86a1 100644 --- a/k/57772495.txt +++ b/k/57772495.txt @@ -680,10 +680,6 @@ Fucking jew made the bundle 24.99 so you can't get free shipping --- 57871311 >>57871091 I enjoy what I like and you can do the same. I don't mind if others do not share the same enjoyment as me with what I find entertaining. ---- 57871324 ->>57870042 - -how do you cope with the fact that the biggest supporters of the LGBTMAP mafia are also the ones leading the charge on gun control? --- 57871425 >>57871324 the same way the entire conservative mafia copes with the nra, trump, reagen, cops etc @@ -761,3 +757,49 @@ Nah I mean I just want one patch (one design) for myself cause whoever originall WHAT DO THE FLOWERS MEAN WHATS IT STAND FOR THERE MUST BE SOMETHING MORE +--- 57879990 +>>57835937 +>nooo don't post pictures on an image board +--- 57880310 +>>57879415 +Racism +--- 57880375 +>>57879415 +--- 57883518 +>>57772495 (OP) +--- 57885877 +>>57871621 +congrats on missing the point. +--- 57886029 +>>57885877 +>conservatives are worse +>they're not worse, you're a faggot for thinking that and i will call you a faggot for saying that +>congrats on missing the point +--- 57886955 +Patch idea +--- 57888158 +Anyone here ever made one yourself? It's a bit time consuming, but totally doable since it's so hard and/or expensive to get custom ones. +--- 57889280 +>>57884639 +Where cop? +--- 57889661 +>Had GWN Yamaguchi patch on my "when I am no long broke list" +>Decided I've waited long enough +>Shop is perma closed +Big sad. +--- 57889785 +>>57889661 +You're gonna carry that weight. +--- 57889837 +>>57802708 +>Didn't join during peace time for the gibs and discount +--- 57889945 +>>57884639 +Lazy and no effort +--- 57890724 +>>57772495 (OP) +--- 57891327 +>>57858449 +>>57861633 +This all looks like shit +Is it just me or have the instagram-ad patch shitters and redditors completely invaded this thread, shit wasn't like this the last time I left /o/ diff --git a/k/57819001.txt b/k/57819001.txt index d46ea07e5b5a89a6b7541ef8bbe83a1c7b18d319..69f6a092904869cecbed82e151e7744b1d317c67 100644 --- a/k/57819001.txt +++ b/k/57819001.txt @@ -809,3 +809,196 @@ In addition to different/cheaper bullet design, sometimes cheaper powder. For ex --- 57879105 >>57842079 I think it has more to do with the shape. Hard cast bullets are often semi-wadcutter, which (at least according to fuddlore) is less likely to deflect off bone. +--- 57879679 +>>57868454 +Oh yeah and if you're east coast US, you're going to be waiting until August for the walnuts to ripen. Seasonal source of ink. Also a wood stain and clothes dye! +--- 57880435 +>>57819001 (OP) +how exactly do you take the factory sights off of a s&w MP model? +--- 57881485 +Why do most AR10s out there have stainless barrels? I hate the look and it seems for combat purposes you would want it blacked out and not shiny. +--- 57881820 +>>57881485 +Most AR-10's aren't going into combat, and those which are are going to get painted or cerakoted anyway. But most good barrel makers should offer you a choice of what steel you get. I used an X-caliber barrel for my last AR-10 build, they offer a choice of stainless or Chromoly. +--- 57882613 +>>57877140 +I was scared they'd make fun of me for being a silly prepper or something :( +--- 57882632 +>>57882613 +Don't tell them it's for prepping then. Just ask how to DIY it. +--- 57883716 +Hello /k/ + +I plan on buying my first gun on gunbroker. I've bought guns online before but with visa/ credit cards. This seller only allows USPS Money Order, Money Order, Certified Check. + +I have never paid with any of those things. What's the safest way to go about it and how the fuck do I pay online with any of those things? Sorry if it's a dumb question. The gun still doesn't have a single bid. +--- 57883850 +>>57867180 +My in laws swear by and got me a pitsburgh 3 ton. It lifts my old 7.3 powerstroke.. could be they just want me dead though +--- 57883895 +If I'm using a laser bore sighter but I'm limited on space, couldn't I just sight the optic above the boresight at enough space so that if the range were increased, it would be on target? +--- 57884273 +>>57845794 +>>57845027 +Speaking of 7x64, if I don't have any empty casings avalible on the market, would it be safe to load a 7mm bullet and required powder load into a .30-06 casing and fire it from a 7x64 rifle? +--- 57884328 +>>57883716 +>USPS Money Order +After you win the auction, the seller provides you his name, address, and total cost. You walk into your local post office and ask for money order(s) in the amount required. You fill them out, take a picture of them for your records, tear off and keep the receipt portion, then mail them to him. After he redeems them he ships the gun. + +If he fucks you it's theoretically big boy federal mail fraud. I've both bought and sold guns using USPS money orders as payment without issue. +--- 57884355 +>>57883895 +little mistakes turn into huge mistakes at distance. +--- 57884430 +Don't know where or how else to ask this, but why do black people seem to gravitate towards .380? +--- 57884714 +>>57884355 +Well what I'm saying is that if I sight the optic above the dot on a wall, can't I just use math to figure out where the dot and boresight would meet at say 100yrds? + +Wouldnt it be possible to calculate where to put the dot above where the boresighter is aiming in order for the point of aim to meet the point of impact out at the desired distance? +--- 57885160 +>>57824258 +>>57824303 +>>57852519 +>>57852707 +>>57858306 +Aight it's done, poor grinding skills aside it, the 3d sabot actually holds in the cartrige and the round chamber correctly +--- 57885183 +>>57884714 +You can do that. That's what a boresighter is for, nobody actually uses them at long range. But it won't be perfect because your math will be full of approximations and there will be some error in your adjustment. How well it all works depends on what your standards/expectations are. Are you just trying to hit a torso at 100 yards? So long as you're careful that shouldn't be hard. Are you expecting to be dead on? Lolno. That method is how I've done the preliminary zeroing on over a dozen rifles I've owned. It usually gets me within 3-4 inches at 100 yards with the first shot. +--- 57885282 +>>57883716 +>and how the fuck do I pay online with any of those things? +You don't. It's hard to buy guns from individuals online. Online payment services like PayPal don't allow it, and the average Joe doesn't have the ability to accept credit cards. You get a money order or certified check, you put it in an envelope, and you mail it to the seller. + +> Sorry if it's a dumb question. +Don't blame us. Blame your parents for failing to teach you about some really basic shit. You get USPS Money orders from a post office. You must pay for them with cash. You get generic money orders from banks or from the customer service counter at many supermarkets, gas stations, etc. Again, you must pay for them in cash. You get certified checks aka "cashier's checks" from a bank. You may have guessed the trend here: you will need cash, or an account at that bank they will withdraw the money from. +--- 57885312 +Where does BCM (Bravo Company) source their barrels from? ( I’ve searched this but wind up on arf com with 10 page treads ) +--- 57885339 +>>57857853 +>>57857888 +It's a .410 shotgun AR-15-a-like +--- 57885882 +Why do they look so good in green? + +They're the only 2 guns I know of that look better than in black +--- 57886272 +>>57885339 +Man, a .410 "AR" for plinking sounds like a ton of fun. +--- 57886311 +Are there any other places that talk about weapons that aren't absolutely full of retards just purposefully lying or spamming the same exact shit over and over again? +--- 57886444 +>>57879084 +>For example, defensive handgun ammo might use low-flash powder so you don't blind yourself. + +but the kid in me at heart wants to see the flashy boom boom sparks. +--- 57886455 +>>57876453 +just dissemble the gun and remove the trigger actions to clean it out dumbass +--- 57886471 +>>57885882 +lol how many rounds does that drum hold? also Ithink all guns look better in FDE. +--- 57886537 +>>57886311 +>places that talk about weapons +>aren't absolutely full of retards +>not the same exact shit typed over and over again + +The gun world barely changes over time, 95% of the discussions wouldn't exist if people were able to do simple google searches. Any info you could dream of is already out there, maybe except for the reviews of the few rare "new" products that come on the market once in a while. Sounds like what you're looking for is a fucking search engine. +--- 57886549 +>>57885160 +Holy based. +--- 57886587 +>>57884273 +You can't just drop a .30-06 cartridge into the rifle as the neck diameter is too large. However you can resize .30-06 to 7x64 with a handloading press. You can also use .280 Remington or .270 Winchester brass the same way. +--- 57886627 +>>57886272 +Agreed. Only problem is that they're all turkshit, and I've never seen one that takes 3" shells either. So in the end you get a very limited crappy gun... Given that .410 is pretty expensive I'd rather have a nicer gun to shoot it out of. +--- 57886644 +>>57885882 +It's not so much that they're green, it's that they are 2-tone. Having the two different colors of parts breaks up the fairly ugly shape of those guns. I don't think they'd look anywhere near as good if they were uniformly green. +--- 57886662 +>>57819001 (OP) +I'm a saw gunner now. Need a tactical belt so I can put drum pouches on each side instead of having that on my IOTV where it's always in the way and annoying +anyone got any good recommendations for a tactical belt with molle I can use for drums, ifak, and other stuff? +--- 57886808 +>>57841754 +I don't think so, at least the bullet-based ones wouldnt. Maybe the missile-based ones would, if they're using a strong enough explosive / penetrator? +--- 57887586 +>>57886627 +Sounds like someone should write a letter to kel-tec :^) Sounds like something they'd be into. I've always wanted a Judge or Governor, and knowing that I have at least one other gun that would use .410 might be the last bit of convincing I need. +--- 57887843 +Any ceramic plates out there that are 4x6 inches or less? Saw one online years ago but the closest I can find now is steelshit. Thinking of slipping it into the admin pouch of my IIIA vest to cover my vitals. +--- 57887892 +>>57887843 +Search for side plates. +--- 57888149 +>>57876124 +>"None." +Darn, I guess I'll have to make my own then. +>"That's dumb. Find some speed strips instead." +You're kidding? I use speed strips for my 22. SAA and let me tell you it's not quick nor easy as I would imagine a magazine. +--- 57889900 +>>57880435 +A couple problems here: +>Is this a revolver or autoloader? +>Is this a new or old revolver? +>Are the sights adjustable? +"Smith and Wesson M&P" refers to like three or more different guns. IIRC it's: +>S&W M&P, the original around 1900, pre model 10 +>S&W M&P, a modern autoloader +>S&W M&P, an ar15 (?) +>S&W M&P IIRC a modern revolver may exist under this name in current manufacture +--- 57889957 +>>57885160 +Depending on how hard those are and how your gun feeds, be VERY careful to make sure it doesn't put big gouges in your feed ramp or chamber. +--- 57890198 +>>57889900 +i'm talking about the very new 5.7 MP model. was just wondering what other kinds of sights I can put on it if I were to buy one. +--- 57890295 +>>57885882 +Euro OD green is awesome, but why? It matters to them sort of the way a green AMG Mercedes looks cool, but a green Lexus looks like mold. +--- 57890412 +>>57876124 +>Better answer is a Savage 99 or Browning BLR though. Better calibers available and they can mount optics. +i had friends recommended the savage, but honestly i just want the classic cowboy gun aesthetic for this. i have no plans to mount a scope for this. i would have considered henry too, but supposedly they are shit according to the 2 cowboy larpers i know. +--- 57890649 +>>57871608 +If you haven't bought it yet, don't. I've got one and the fucking slide keeps rusting no matter how much I clean it. Never had that problem with my other guns. +--- 57890717 +Why did we adopt the 277 fury as the next gen cartridge then the military academy in the 80s claimed the ar-15 was already at peak performance and the only way to improve it is explosive ammunition +--- 57890718 +>>57890198 +>S&W calls yet another one of their guns the M&P +I can't believe it. Also, +>drift adjustable +Looks like dovetailed to me anon. Knock that shit right out. Just remember that one way is probably smaller than the other so don't fuck up your dovetail by pushing it out the wrong side like a retard. I forget what side is the tighter side; there's a standard that's (usually) followed. They're nice metal sights too. Also am I crazy or are these glock compatible sights? I don't own a glock so I may be wrong. +--- 57890750 +>>57890718 +You didnt get a single thing right except being made of metal and having a dovetail but them making shit up about the dovetail. +You should really just shut the fuck up instead of spreading misinformation +--- 57890803 +>>57819001 (OP) +Putting rails on a 10/22. Y/N? +I've loved my 10/22 for the past 13 years but I've been thinking of putting a red dot on it for plinking purposes. Is this a good idea? Seems fun for me. +--- 57890808 +My AR shoots more to the left as I increase the distance, which I assume means my barrel is canted. +Can this be fixed with a re-install and adjustment or am I fucked? +--- 57890904 +>>57890750 +>but them making shit up about the dovetail. +You mean the bit about the dovetail only going in one way because one side is tighter? On further looking it turns out this may not be true with Glocks for example but for many handgun sights, rifle sights, and even pins that hold parts in place that is DEFINITELY the case; they are tapered. You're supposed to remove them left to right. And on further inspection yeah they're not glock sight compatible, especially not the front sight as glock front sights aren't dovetailed. I've been up nearly 24 hours and I said one minorly retarded thing by accident, which by the way can be immediately proven wrong with a 5 second google search. I'm not perfect and don't have a complete knowledge of every gun; sue me. And I don't see you answering that anon so stop being a fucking prick and answer him yourself if you know the answer. +https://www.shootingillustrated.com/content/how-to-change-handgun-sights-the-right-way/#:~:text=Some%20dovetails%20are%20tapered.,still%20is%20on%20some%20firearms. +--- 57890984 +>>57890803 +Sure, why not. Go with the Weaver 430T; works well for me with a scope when hunting. Get a FAT wrench if you really want to do it right. I forget how many inch pounds is right for the rail installation but it was easy enough for me to find last time I needed to. + +>>57890808 +Start with something easy. Is there a burr or damage on your barrel crown? How good does the crown look? Is there a burr on the inside of your muzzle device causing strikes with the bullets? Is it your rifle rest putting pressure on the barrel in an odd way (if using one)? Are you putting tension on the sling when shooting? Even things like barrel mounted bipods can throw off point of impact, but I'm not sure it'd do something like you're describing. + +Are you sure your scope or dot isn't the cause of the issue? Check that the mount isn't somehow bumped out of place. Try unscrewing it and pushing the mounts forward in their slot and then tighten as usual. Also try another scope or dot with a different set of rings/base if available; you never know. That is assuming you aren't shooting with irons. If you are, are you sure it's not your front sight being out of line with the barrel or front sight base being canted in some way? Not that it being the case would be any better. +--- 57891313 +>>57890984 +I haven't checked the barrel crown or muzzle device yet but they're new so I wasn't expecting damage. I'm shooting with both a red dot and backup iron sights on a free floated rail from a simple rest. diff --git a/k/57834081.txt b/k/57834081.txt index 5f888f2b33cf4ef02ec672cdda2b1beae4c87b87..286498060ac18a28ac0789d8fa58baa00b95dd18 100644 --- a/k/57834081.txt +++ b/k/57834081.txt @@ -374,3 +374,62 @@ Ahhhhh fuck you're right I just got my first milsurps this month so I don't have ammo for them yet. Also, unfortunately, nowhere in town to shoot so I have to drive a ways. +--- 57879820 +>>57875105 +Your problem is the fact that you don't have 25 friends you can start a militia with. +--- 57879841 +Slept in and got outbid on a Yugo 24/47 carbine (not a short rifle). Still got an fr8, German riot shield, and a box of sks parts. +--- 57880088 +>>57879841 +Holy shit, what kind of racist ass bidding website is this? +--- 57880351 +>>57875645 +God no; there's dirt out there. + +>>57879841 +Congratulations Anon. + +>>57880088 +LOL. +--- 57882323 +>>57879841 +>>57880088 +We have a very similar watchlist from that one. I didn't bid, but good deal on that FR-8. someone got a good price on that carabineros carbine as well. +--- 57882380 +>>57856649 +What in tarnation is this? I got offered one at a gunshow for $800 a little while ago +--- 57883327 +>>57882380 +"Dreyse" M1907. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAJFq2M2dao [Embed] +--- 57884267 +>>57875645 +Not anymore. Work hours too long. +--- 57885610 +>>57877623 +Tfw bubba sanded this off of mine. If I hold it at the right angle I can see the outline of it. +--- 57886149 +>>57842504 +Looks like the bolt carrier was polished based on that pic. They usually have a rough forged finish +--- 57887372 +>>57882380 +800 would be very generous on your part. +--- 57887884 +.32 posting will continue. +--- 57887935 +>>57887884 +I've kind of fallen out of love with 32s lately. And with a lot of smokeless in general. How could I not when the holy black mistress beckons to me? +--- 57888106 +>>57887935 +I don't love the price of .32 currently, other than that my favorite handgun cartridge. + +Waiting til the GF and I have a new house to get into reloading and reloading for BP. I'd like to shoot my Beaumont more than when Buffalo Arms makes some for $4-5 a round. +--- 57890123 +>>57887935 +Sell me your boring old guns for a loss to afford more BP +--- 57890182 +>>57875645 +>only place to shoot within 30 minute drive is a 25yd range that limits rifle calibers to .30 cal max +>nearest outdoor range is 2 hours away +>no public land to shoot on, just suburbs and corn fields +Life is suffering with my desire to shoot big bore surps. diff --git a/k/57836283.txt b/k/57836283.txt index 0589369fb8b21affd1addae92e5f09718cf01d27..d58114619ec0760515cd34e7a4e55aa606e64297 100644 --- a/k/57836283.txt +++ b/k/57836283.txt @@ -798,3 +798,134 @@ Yeah --- 57879639 >>57878739 Oh. +--- 57879984 +>>57879639 +Yeah bump +--- 57880214 +>>57874167 +Nice. +--- 57881419 +What are the good sellers for EUfags like me +btw I learned that hand free nvg in france is illegal lmao +--- 57881448 +>>57881419 +>hand free is illegal +>Presumably this means that helmet mounted is legal +??? +--- 57881454 +>>57881448 +Oh wait sorry I'm apparently retarded this morning. So helmet mounted is illegal but if you hold it in your hand it's legal. Wot. +--- 57881522 +>>57881454 +>Oh wait sorry I'm apparently retarded this morning. So helmet mounted is illegal but if you hold it in your hand it's legal. Wot. + +Yes you can buy a monocular that can be mounted, the mount is also legal but putting them together make it a A2 weapon which is at the same level as automatic weapon in France and thus completely banned for civilians. + +sadly in France for weapons the law is getting worse and worse in order to get to EU standards apparently so more and more weapons are getting in B category which require 1 years of sport shooting license and a préfectoral authorization (and now they have orders to not give this authorization to preppers or listed far right individuals) +--- 57881604 +>>57881522 +Maybe another revolution is in order? A lot of you guys seem to do it just because it's a day that ends in Y +--- 57882486 +>>57880214 +that's awesome man +--- 57882867 +>>57881522 +>Yes you can buy a monocular that can be mounted, the mount is also legal but putting them together make it a A2 weapon which is at the same level as automatic weapon in France and thus completely banned for civilians. +what the fuck +--- 57883443 +>>57882867 +>when taping glass to your face is the equivalent of murdering someone +--- 57883607 +>>57882867 +>>57883443 +In all fairness, this is somewhat comparable to all parts for an SBR being individually immune from being NFA violations. +--- 57883821 +Anyone have a good source for polycarbonate discs 37mm and 1/16 thick? +--- 57884053 +Lasersneed needs to try their hand at a rifle mounted laser rangefinder. +--- 57884384 +>>57883821 +Your local hardware store and a thin hacksaw +--- 57884883 +>>57883821 +AliExpress, tons of that niche shit on there, why do you want one? +--- 57885855 +>>57884053 +>Compete with sig for chink prices +Stop making me want chinese stuff. +--- 57886227 +>>57884883 +was trying to source a US store cause I cant trust the alibaba store item descriptions. also wanted to replace the UV lens in my filter for something stronger. +--- 57886705 +>>57886227 +Why don't you just get a normal sac lens? +--- 57887419 +Just found a complete PVS14 with gen3 ITT GP tubes for $1300, no blems on the tubes. What do you guys think? Anyone have info on ITT tubes? Is it hard to go wrong at the price point? Am I a colossal faggot for typing all this out? +>pic unrelated +--- 57887509 +>>57887419 +Very low price, almost too good to be true. I built out my PVS-14 with an ITT tube and it cost about 1800. If you can confirm it's not a scam or anything, I'd definitely jump on it. At worst, it'll be a really great tube to learn on. +--- 57887639 +Whats the consensus on 10130/older nvd's? +--- 57887716 +>>57887419 +Maybe the tube is well worn and the gain is down in the weeds. I don't care. It will be a good starter if you are just beginning. Do it. +--- 57887726 +>>57887639 +>10130 +IMO anything Omni IV and beyond is going to provide the performance edge people expect for Gen 3 over Gen 2. Newer stuff is still better but a 10130 in that Omni V or VI range is going to work well for a lot of people. +--- 57887759 +>>57887639 +For me, that is the tube series that really broke out into being a really useful format and being rugged enough for serious use without too much worry. The earlier stuff was either too fragile, too low of res, or just too low of gain to be really useful. Yeah, older stuff got the job done, but it was more hassle. +tldr; 10130 and 10160 are gtg provided they meet your reqs +--- 57887857 +>>57887726 +>>57887759 +Noted, thx anons +--- 57887862 +Does anyone know if a ITT NE 6010 F uses 10160 tubes? Or is it something else? +--- 57888050 +>>57887862 +This listing suggests that they should +https://astromart.com/classifieds/astromart-classifieds/nightvision/show/itt-gen-3-image-intensifier-mx10160a-milspec +"taken from a cosmetically pristine ITT NE 6010F monocular housing " +--- 57889423 +Picked up a Sionyx for cheap. Does anyone got advice on cheap bridges so I can pair it with a PVS-14 for shits and giggles? +--- 57890413 +Being fuckin around with bnvd1431s for the last month and just tonight i turned them on and one of the pods didn’t turn on right away like it used to. Turned them off again then on and it was faster but the right tube def turn on first. + + Also noticed a bright white spot spilling over from the dark area onto the screen on the left tube also. (Hard to explain kinda maybe take a pic) + +None of this really bothers me just curious why it started happening +--- 57890556 +>>57890413 +>bright light +Figure out if it’s an emission point or just a bright spot. +--- 57890558 +>>57890413 +>Also noticed a bright white spot spilling over from the dark area onto the screen on the left tube also. (Hard to explain kinda maybe take a pic) +Pic or video if you can capture that would be helpful. +I hope your tube isn't getting an emission point https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/emission-point-question.7107770/ +--- 57890861 +>>57889423 +The only one that I have seen that will do that config is the Nightwatch. It's not great. I would not bother. +--- 57890877 +>>57890413 +>>57890556 +>>57890558 + +Yeah, I get a bad vibe on this one and I usually say not to worry about it. What are the hours on it and what kind of life has it lived? Some kind of image will go a long ways towards figuring it out. +--- 57890957 +>>57890556 +>>57890558 +>>57890877 + +After reading a little i think i might be edge glow? +--- 57890986 +>>57890957 +That’s what it sounds like. Tube is defective (rip). Should still be useable, though. + +Post a picture when you get a chance. +--- 57891089 +>>57890957 +That is the particular vibe that I get, yes. diff --git a/k/57843595.txt b/k/57843595.txt index 60b8cc2376dc55cb38622f1441ad62c3f2343832..c6e6a7136c3b41c27c6617308d6a3ee4d05ef0b3 100644 --- a/k/57843595.txt +++ b/k/57843595.txt @@ -594,3 +594,50 @@ lol fuck off glowie tourist It's about the shooting, such as the shooting of the bow, rather than the bow/gun itself, you low IQ faggot. Seriously, you are quite dumb. +--- 57879880 +>>57872606 +but that's fiction anon +--- 57879976 +>>57843595 (OP) +That type of bow is quite retarded, and I'm a compound bow archer which is also quite retarded conceptually. I think recurve/olympic recurve is where it's at as far as keeping retardation to a minimum while introducing concepts like form/concentration/precision/simplicity and so on. +Compound bows are closer to >>57843624 this, kyudo is on the other side of the spectrum "muh zen spiritual warrior" kind of crap. I don't see any point in dressing up and having to reach a strictly formal training place when you can just grab a recurve bow in t-shirt and shorts and work on yourself any way you want in whatever grass field around town. +Spirituality. meditation and concentration is what you make of it, practicality though is an objective tangible thing. +--- 57880085 +>archery +--- 57880099 +>>57843595 (OP) +Wouldn't a better equivalent be using flintlock smoothbore pistols? +--- 57882685 +>>57880099 +they do, see >>57855856 +--- 57884762 +>>57880099 +Impractical, annoying, and hardly "martial" in any practical sense, these days. +>>57872263 seems like a much better choice. +--- 57887175 +>>57880085 +>europeons +--- 57887568 +>>57843677 +>my one Westaboo buddy held them +based, japanese guys are super chill and bros +--- 57887732 +>>57856457 +imagine becoming so redpill brained that you not only write an entire paragraph completely missing the point of the thread, but also inadvertently end up shaming someone for cultural appropriation. You sound retarded, and also probably British owing to your poor mastery of the english language and mentioning the longbow when OP didn't mention it at all. +--- 57889651 +>>57843595 (OP) +How does one train point shooting? +--- 57889888 +>>57889651 +google it, fuck head +--- 57890678 +>>57864361 +Where in fuck's name do you think you are, faggot? +--- 57890699 +>>57843595 (OP) +>>57843713 +>>57843595 (OP) +Japan is the only place with bayonet fighting martial arts outside of the military +--- 57891510 +>>57855856 +The video said they were using blanks, but is owning one of those guns that won't blow up if you fire live ammunition a possibility in Japan? diff --git a/k/57851236.txt b/k/57851236.txt index 40b3071e31817482d1214be3183efd4f642e35be..0740dd6b88ab5c3f673a69ca629933cdb02136a6 100644 --- a/k/57851236.txt +++ b/k/57851236.txt @@ -510,8 +510,6 @@ What did anon mean by this? --- 57876734 >>57876721 That M4 is a waste of space, unfit for peer conflict. ---- 57877351 ->>57876734 --- 57878602 >>57863809 First is Triela from Gunslinger Girl, in which she wields the M1897 shotgun and bayonet. @@ -527,3 +525,89 @@ Thank you anon. --- 57879009 >>57861661 this person knows. this person gets it. +--- 57879896 +>>57878968 +Extremely based. +--- 57881374 +>>57876702 +Pretty good. +--- 57881409 +>>57859776 +Ai Hayasaka +--- 57881534 +>>57851236 (OP) +>character has been out for less than 2 weeks +>already OP's "waifu" +You undedicated faggot OP +--- 57883937 +>>57872199 +Best Knaifu. +--- 57883978 +I'm back with more feedback. Everything I say is the Law. +>>57868213 +Based as FUCK, cause it's me. +>>57868263 +I mean it's alright +>>57868351 +Damn good taste. +>>57869267 +Cringe and gay and tryhard and dumb and stinky. Probably a Troon. 41% yourself. +>>57869390 +One of the ugly bullpups. Faggot. +>>57870602 +Insanely based. Good shit, nigga. +>>57872120 +You're one of those gun guys who differs slightly from the other gun guys and maintains the fact that "You aren't like the other gun guys". You likely hide your power level around others. Regardless of the fact you have main character syndrome, you have good taste. Don't let my compliment boost your ego, cause you're a massive faggot. +>>57872199 +Based, but that anime is gay. Stab yourself in the eye. +>>57872603 +Insanely based taste minus the waifu because she is worst girl. Also undertale kinda fucking gay. (Actually, really fuckin gay.) +>>57873357 +Horrible. Just horrible. Remove yourself from the gene pool. +>>57873558 +You have ALRIGHT taste. +>>57876702 +You need to be 18 to post here. And also not a massive faggot. +>>57877511 +I'm not even clicking to enlarge that. I wish I could beat you to death with my bare hands. Go dilate with a cactus, Troon. +--- 57884109 +>>57852224 +How does it feel to know you will never be with a goblin girl? Seriously. +--- 57884452 +>>57851236 (OP) +recently i have come to prefer my imaginary waifu over porn. +--- 57884813 +>>57883978 +>Based as FUCK, cause it's me. +Anon that is a very bland taste. +--- 57886289 +>>57883978 +>I'm back with more "feedback". Everything I say is cringe. +--- 57886940 +>>57851236 (OP) +unironic. also i hate anime. +--- 57888346 +>>57884109 +--- 57888417 +>>57873558 +Based Lumi lover. +--- 57888520 +>>57886940 +>x-men evolution's kitty pride +Very based. + +>knaifu and raifu +Ok interesting. + +>i hate anime +Terrible taste anon. + +C+ +--- 57891440 +>>57851236 (OP) +--- 57891467 +>>57873357 +>Fucking kill yourself +>The red midget actually fucking does it +Based neo. +Also why a rondel dagger? diff --git a/k/57851565.txt b/k/57851565.txt index 9d115f6cd5ec8205979161d14651e0204bdf330a..4037a465ef9253a0084d8aaf72307beb3328eff6 100644 --- a/k/57851565.txt +++ b/k/57851565.txt @@ -1161,3 +1161,177 @@ Watch, Starship Troopers Traitor of Mars if you want to see fascist Emma Watson. --- 57879464 >>57858110 Actually it's pretty clearly defined, they just changed the term from g"lobal warming" to climate change because the former gave inept retards like yourself an aneurysm when it wasn't 86 degrees in the winter +--- 57881541 +>>57856243 +In the time it takes for your coasting missiles to reach the target said target has already ventilated the launcher with railguns/lasers, then utilised its superior delta v to manoeuvre beyond the course correction capabilities of the missiles. + +Best point defence is being where the missile isn't, and this is the fundamental reason why missiles in space are of questionable utility. Spaceships are fast. Spaceships carry much more fuel than a missile. Any missile launched from far enough away to avoid projectile based retaliation will miss if the target manoeuvres at all. Any missile launched so close that the target can't evade needs to be transported through said projectile based weapons field of fire. +--- 57882106 +>>57851776 +>No. No show, including the Expanse, has done Newtonian physics right for space combat. +What's wrong with Expanse's Newtonian physics? +--- 57882158 +>>57879239 +Mickey mouse march is immediately in my head, don't know why that part of the film is the first part I think of +--- 57882190 +>>57851565 (OP) +Ashley Williams is an accurate depiction of Military womens. +--- 57882270 +>>57851776 +>>57881541 +>Regarding missiles, like everyone is talking about, those are generally retarded for space combat +>and this is the fundamental reason why missiles in space are of questionable utility. Spaceships are fast. Spaceships carry much more fuel than a missile +This is some real hot take. Projectrho is dying inside tight now. +--- 57883071 +Has anyone here read the Frontlines series my Marko Kloos or the Palladium wars? +1/3 of his writing is just tungsten-tipped munitions and dropship turret calibers (1/3 self-insert) +--- 57883140 +>>57875661 +Needing to design the satellites so they deorbit themselves is precisely because leaving it to nature will take several years as soon as you are above VLEO. +Also I don't trust such companies to coordinate properly with others or use "self-cleaning" for more than the most minimal technically correct effort. + +>most +Most CURRENT satellites and a full constellation will be nothing compared to a future infrastructure capable of building spaceship in orbit. +By the time we get there, we'll definitely require ridiculously tight regulation that some call police-state. +--- 57883534 +>>57851565 (OP) +BABYLON 5 WAS OUR LAST, BEST HOPE FOR PEACE + +IT FAILED +--- 57883747 +>>57857509 +you doomer idiots need to go into the corner with the warm weather hysterics and women will stop giving birth prophets. I swear to god there is a certain gene in certain human monkey types that just deeply yearns for a grand happening. Practically you types are no different then the "THE END IS NEAR" retards with the signs on the street corner +--- 57884155 +>>57851776 +>>57881541 +>missiles in space +Sorry anon(s) but you are very wrong, I hope you know The Expanse is built around basically engines, high-trust and nearly null consumption. +Maybe you believe missile = short range based on how they are used in our current atmosphere&gravity based warfare where missiles are constrained by size, cruising range, top speed or limited in methods to evade hard-kill intercept. +You saying "detectable" suggest you don't know stealth in space was never a possibility to begin with and it won't bother missiles. + +Even the wording is wrong: +>To be fast, they'd need a powerful engine +>Spaceships are fast. + +A missiles is literally a spaceship with only the mass needed to kill another, and yes it can be with 100% success. +Missile do not need to be as massive nor need as much propellant to achieve the same range. + +A manned spaceship is going to be heavier and cannot have a high acceleration, any extra mass will reduce its range and it is mathematically impossible for a heavier spaceship with inferior acceleration to "evade" smaller missiles with higher acceleration and enough propellant to get in an intercept trajectory. + +Even interplanetary missiles using a expendable nuclear-bus would be 100% worth the price to kill a costlier manned spaceship. + +Yes you could make missile(s) launched by stupid people who can't do math waste their fuel. +Or maybe you'll face missile(s) launched by smart people who did not leave you any mathematical way out. + +Do hope you'll have enough "railguns" to shot down the "lone missile" that split into hundred(s) of guided-projectiles. +With Bola-type design (possible in space) you'd have trouble even calculating where to shoot. Or shades that only need to be between your sensors and the missiles. +Hope you are quick because within orbits a missile could easily match the speed of a railgun. + +Yes it will be costly for the equivalent of "a railgun shell" but space war are going to be one-hit kill. +--- 57884156 +>>57876905 +Get good at eating them and you'll not only +1) Not get eaten +2) Make a new, close friend +3) Have a loyal bodyguard. +--- 57884653 +>>57851565 (OP) +>Have any science fiction films or tv shows gotten the military right? + +None correctly depict orbital mechanics. +--- 57884756 +>>57884155 +>shoots down missile +what now, chud? +--- 57884771 +>>57879239 +Still did a pretty good job considering that entire set was located a few miles outside of London. +--- 57884795 +>>57882190 +>actually pulls her weight in combat and duty +>isn't really speciest/racist like everyone claims, just accurately predicts aliens will throw humanity to the intergalactic wolves +>tennyson enjoyer +>family girl +based? +--- 57884830 +>>57884756 +>still face a swarm of guided subprojectile in a coordinated cloud that can never be shot down in time +It's game over, man, game over! +--- 57884985 +>>57884830 +you'd either have to split them off close to intercept, giving the ship time to shoot it down from long range, or you're splitting them off into multiple missiles with deltav vastly smaller than the one big missile, meaning the ship can outburn them easier +however space missiles do add one interesting note to space combat, if we go the route of unmanned space warships (unlikely, someone has to do maintenance on them after all) a ramming manouver absolutely becomes an option +--- 57885153 +>>57851639 +>>57852589 + +...my god, the logo for this faction is just terrible. +--- 57886941 +>>57884985 +By the time a properly designed missile-bus get in intercept range (including projectile travel time), it will be too late for a manned spaceship to evade split missiles no matter how low their dV are. +A manned "warship" with reactor & stuff is not going to have high acceleration nor be able to vector into another direction like the dancing ships from "The Expanse". +http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacewardefense.php#id--Evasive_Maneuvers--Moment_of_Inertia +Therefore an enemy could see which way your ship is currently pointed, and insist in that direction. + +A smart enemy who only need some of the projectiles to hit, will scatter them so even if you burn in a direction you'd put yourself in the trajectory of another. +Or the enemy can deduce by math what direction you are forced to take. It would be silly for you to do a burn in a direction that would deorbit your ship or on a trajectory you can not deviate from. + +Orbital and Interplanetary space are going to have very different dynamic. Each would favor different missiles approach. + +Trying to outrange a missiles will only work if the ship have vastly more dV or can force the missile into an impossibly costly maneuver. +A missile don't carry fuel to go back, don't carry life-support, equipment and quo, it can absolutely compete with a ship and have extra dV for a final sprint. + +Depending of orbital mechanic the missiles can easily arrive at a speed comparable to a coilgun like the BAE project (~5 km/s) +And if the missile-bus have the right mix of deltaV/Thrust/Time it can arrive faster than any coilgun/railgun projectile ever could. + +The above can be tested in ChoDE (pic) and that game don't even have complex AI-driven tactic with guided submunition swarm. +--- 57887523 +>>57851590 +Minbari "Stealth" technology as portrayed in the prequal film "In the beginning" had a lot more to do with their sensors blinding the earth ship's targeting. + +Think of it like getting a spotlight pointed directly in your eyes and everything goes white. You can't just "Aim at the light" because at that moment Everything looks the same. As for physical guided or unguided munitions the FX team and JMS originally started off trying to portray very long range engagements between capital ships but later with pressure from the network moved things closer together. The universe uses Interceptor cannons and sweeping beam weapons in the same way that The Expanse used PDC cannons that screen incoming shots both ballistic and energy weapons though they seemed to have little effect on beam type cannons. The Star Fury also carries missiles as well but are not seen in the show. + +In the original design docs the Star Fury used mass driver style weapons that launched solid projectiles with a magnetic accelerator but this was again changed for visuals before the show's pilot aired. In fact before The expanse B5 showed more "realism" in a scifi property than any show we had seen to date. Some time ago the writer of The Expanse and JMS crossed paths in a twitter exchange where James Corey mentioned that B5 was part of his inspiration for the books. +--- 57887535 +>>57877747 +Fire wildly into the air +--- 57887696 +>>57872820 +I would drag my dick through a mile of broken glass just to hear her fart through a walkie-talkie +--- 57887753 +>>57877747 + +Pic related. +--- 57887850 +>>57886941 +in the guaranteed intercept scenario, what's stopping the targeted ship from shooting down that lone missile from 2-3 thousand kilometers away? That's the one thing that I feel a lot of missile fans get wrong about space combat, the PDC range isn't 1-2 kilometers like in naval warfare, there's no atmosphere to make bullets ineffective, no horizon to hide behind.Of course accuracy at such ranges is abysmal, but with your proposed 5km/s it gives the ship a lot of time to defend itself.Of course such a defence could be countered with either a same time-on-target strike or a grouped missile salvo, the first one being delta-v expensive and the other opening the strike to a nuclear counter-missile. +Another thing, I don't see how acceleration changes anything when the COaDE style combat consists of minutes long burns alongside hours or even days of waiting, the delta v gain from having the bigger tank (thus from the square cubed law a more efficient one) does give the "slow big ship" a manouver advantage. +--- 57887955 +>>57852271 +came to post this +--- 57887998 +>>57851565 (OP) +--- 57888059 +>>57857509 +--- 57888316 +>>57865404 +>As if you shut-ins have dates or something. +Game nights, anon. +--- 57888415 +Kind of disappointing with everything referenced ITT, nobody has brought up the two greatest spaceship combat games, Freespace and... +--- 57888424 +>>57888415 +...Homeworld. +--- 57888461 +>>57884156 +Seems sound, I’ll brb. I have to go find a Polynesian to eat. +--- 57888498 +>>57856152 +that one dudes got a cool HUD eyepiece like the og halo dudes. +--- 57890595 +>>57874896 +>Writes a story that is science fiction however based on the laws of physics and nature. +>Completely ignores biology and states that women are just as strong as men. +--- 57890611 +>>57851565 (OP) +farscape diff --git a/k/57852332.txt b/k/57852332.txt index 522b1de16b7ba8a5e8bc675791583154b5e651a5..dc1e64c6785be9f1ec2ce5c80331df608bfa5683 100644 --- a/k/57852332.txt +++ b/k/57852332.txt @@ -858,3 +858,435 @@ All very effective against intercepting ballistic missiles, and some very effect --- 57879250 >>57879226 Since Reagan the American policy has hot been to seek better nuclear retaliatory capability, but nuclear invulnerability. We're (probably) not there yet with an exchange that could see thousands of warheads in the air at once, (Poutine press ebin red button), but less than 300? Piece of cake. +--- 57880069 +>>57852332 (OP) +>Russia collapsed immediately +Yes, Russia is basically out of commission for the foreseeable future, they likely wouldn't be involved in a Chinese war, especially due to political conflict of interests. + +>Invasion of Taiwan failed +A very likely outcome. There is a small window of opportunity, basically 2 months out of the year that would have "favorable" conditions for an amphibious invasion across the strait of Taiwan. + +>Korean War 2.0 +Yes, but no. As other anons have mentioned, NK brass joke about there not being a war. If China were threatened, I think they would pressure NK into attacking SK to stretch the U.S. thin, but due to the state of that country, I think they would capitulate very quickly. They would be to China what the Baltics are to NATO; a speed bump. The U.S. could negotiate some kind of agreement where Kim stays in power, but remains neutral. I really doubt they'd have much fight in them. + +>Iran is sitting this one out +Not very likely. Iran and Pakistan are China's only true allies. They wouldn't pass up the opportunity to make bank off of oil sales. Expect them to be involved. +--- 57880118 +>>57852332 (OP) +Just blockade Chinese ports. They'll resort to cannibalism immediately. (They never actually stopped being cannibals) +--- 57880293 +>>57880069 +Continued: + +With China backed into a corner, the party would be desperate for a victory. Their whole policy for the past 60 years has been to re-take Taiwan. If they can't have it, no one can. +They would likely try to bombard Taiwan. The U.S. response would likely first be air defense (kind of like Iron Dome on steroids) and mass evacuations of civilians to Japan, Philippines, and SK. + +With such a large standing army and a nuclear arsenal that is smaller and less capable than the U.S., their best bet is to continue shelling Taiwan and force the U.S. to come to them. + +But invading China is no small feat. It would be just as difficult to pull of an amphibious invasion for the U.S. as it was for China, so that's off the table. If NK capitulated, that could be one avenue of approach, but not likely. + +Preventing the import of oil from Iran and Pakistan would be the first step. A naval blockade would be relatively easy as most of southeast Asia is de-facto U.S. aligned. + +With sea trade basically blocked, they would have to transport supplies by land through the 'stans and into Xin Jiang. This region, however, is home to 11 million Uyghurs who are heavily persecuted by Beijing. I could definitely see the U.S. supplying rebels in Xin Jiang to attack supply lines and divert manpower further inland. This could be done for other minorities throughout the country too. Basically, the CIA would start a civil war in China. + +Depending on how the Chinese Civil War goes, the U.S. could then ramp up supplies to their favorite "Moderate Rebel" group until they win, they could attempt a combined air and land invasion into territory held by the rebels, or force negotiations with Bejing. +--- 57880321 +>>57855051 +>fully blockade it from the SEA straits or from the shore if naval supremacy has been attained. +Some European faggot said it is a warcrime to blockade food ships +--- 57880358 +>>57880293 +>mass evacuations of civilians to Japan, Philippines, and SK. +No. They stay and defend the island. Air defense and counterbattery. Also some naval sinkings +--- 57880406 +>>57880293 + +you could do ALLLLLLL this, or you can just blow up all the nuke plants, the Dam and fingerblast Beijing with high explosives on day 1 +--- 57880636 +>>57880406 +>Blow up all the nuke plants +Many of China's nukes are on mobile launch platforms in rural areas. Constantly moving too. Destroying the missle won't necessarily cause a full nuclear explosion, and would only cause damage withing a small radius in the middle of nowhere. + +>Blow up the 3 Gorges dam +That would likely require a low-yield nuclear missile, basically guaranteeing a Chinese Nuclear response. It would also kill nearly 100,000,000 people, mostly civilians and displace another 400,000,000 creating the greatest humanitarian catastrophe in history. + +Even if this plan worked, and there was no Chinese nuclear retaliation, and the U.S. won handily, you do know that the American taxpayer would be footing the bill for humanitarian aid for the next 200 years, right? + +The Chinese Civil War 2.0: Erectric Boogaroo plan causes fewer civilian casualties and makes the U.S. less directly culpable. +--- 57880645 +>>57880636 + +I am sorry, your point is? +--- 57880648 +>>57880321 +Euroids seethe +--- 57880661 +>>57880645 +Me: Big smart +You: Big dumb +--- 57880708 +>>57880661 + +whats the problem with 100m casualties? + +perhaps they shouldnt start shit right where most of their population is? + +and i am talking about nuclear plants, you know the kind that produces 2 headed carp in the run off pool +--- 57881168 +>>57863836 +>>57863905 + +Without imported energy they can neither use the habner process to fix nitrogen in sufficient quantities nor run the machinery to maintain production. Thus output will drop. That's the real issue, they could try to use entirely domestic natural gas but that will mean next to nothing going to industrial processes. +--- 57881193 +>>57880636 +>kill nearly 100,000,000 people, mostly civilians and displace another 400,000,000 creating the greatest humanitarian catastrophe in history. +Is that not the point? Tough as a geologist I can tell you that you don't need a nuke to collapse that damn you simply need regular bunker busters to compromise it, once gravity damns start to go things get interesting due to the weird way unconsolidated sediment behaves when subjected to a great deal of kinetic force. + +And unless the nuke was part of a bunker buster that could penetrate the damn structure prior to detonating its actually not that effective against hard targets. +--- 57881319 +>>57880708 +>perhaps they shouldnt start shit right where most of their population is? +you're a fucking moron. +--- 57881326 +>>57852332 (OP) +Nobody wants ti invade China. In a war, China would get its cost bombed and be blockaded until they starve or civil war erupts. +--- 57881438 +>>57881326 +>China would get its cost bombed and be blockaded +lol +retard +--- 57881732 +>>57878305 +>>57878452 +>Do you think that china, with its mostly corvette-based navy, +Boomer cope detected. In the last 10 years China launch more blue water warship than the rest on the world combined. +Yes, you are an ignorant dumbass +--- 57881832 +>>57881732 +I mean it wouldbe nice if the hatches closed but that’s Chinese engineering for ya +--- 57881879 +>>57881832 +>American doesn't understand what that video means +--- 57882079 +>>57852332 (OP) +a ground invasion of China would be impossible. + +Their mega cities are too big for infantry to clear. it would be literally impossible. +--- 57882098 +>>57852332 (OP) +Send the buckbroken pidors in human waves to chyna +--- 57882116 +>>57881326 +And what if...China fights back? What if China don't just sit and take it, and instead they start breaking blockade, sending their bombers and missiles to attack USA? +--- 57882559 +>>57882116 +>sending their bombers and missiles to attack USA? +the world rejoice. +--- 57882647 +>>57882116 + +They would first run into the second largest air force in the world, the US Navy. Soon followed by the largest air force in the world, the US Air Force. + +Look, we get it, you need those 5 renmimbi per post to feed your family. But you can't argue away facts. China fighting anywhere past the immediate vicinity of its shores is a non-starter - as soon as they sail out of their own missile and aircraft range, the tyranny of distance turns right around and against them. The blockading force would have use of bases all around them as china has VERY seriously pissed off their neighbours and convinced them that unless china's imperial ambitions are checked, it'll be like japan in the 30s all over again. They're left fighting an uphill battle against an encirclement that can be adapted and augmented with air power & satellite surveillance as force multipliers. No amount of fleet tonnage will solve that problem. +--- 57882666 +>>57880293 +I like the "Mujahideen the Uighurs" plan, but from a /k/ perspective pulling a Korean War pt. 2 before crossing the Yalu and fighting through Liaoning to Beijing would be objectively cooler, even if it's absolutely impossible until America sets up a comprehensive SDI successor that effectively makes ICBMs obsolete. If you did do that, you could focus on seizing the capitol and securing the capitulation of the Tier 1/2 port cities and force the government into the interior, cutting them off from not only their coastal supply lines but also the majority of their industrial base. +--- 57882684 +>>57881732 +>launched +>just because i launched 80 blue water warships in a decade i will best the US that still has more water warships that are battletested, battleready, and of higher wuakity +lets see objective numbers. actual tonnage of chinese vs american blue water warships. +and remember, you wont just be fending off pirates, but the navies of south east asia, all of which dont have to spread themselves thin within the entire supply chain from the persian gulf to asia, and thats not even taking into consideration the US. +--- 57882700 +>>57882666 + +take the ports, drop the chinks + +they seem to think the US will sit there and watch them perform, thats how lacking of experience they are +--- 57882735 +>>57882116 +so china will somehow magically defeat all the navies and airforce of the first and second island chains, defeat the US navy, which also happens to be the 2nd largest airforce in the world, and then invade US airspace to bomb americans by beating the USAF which is the largest airforce? +Words are easy to say but reality tends to be harsher than that. +--- 57882927 +>>57852955 + +This is the only economical way to do it. Invasion catastophic beyond retarded and would only serve to keep CCP trolls in power while the rest of the chinese would be content in eating their neighbours for sustenance. + +Their ability to wage modern warfare nullified and supply chains been cut off, they will eventually rip themselves apart, or the CCP in best case scenario. +--- 57883041 +>>57859560 + +Being neutered and blockaded means that only a fraction of their shitty icbms will avoid being intercepted. And those that manage to get through, have to get through additional layers of countermeasures, each with multiple attempts due to the low number of icbms they have to engage. +--- 57883262 +What does it mean exactly? +--- 57883314 +>You fool! you fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asian! +--- 57883994 +>>57883262 +It means muttards itt are exactly that: mutt retards +--- 57884349 +>>57882735 +Are you implying that US navy will operate inside the first and the second island chain? + +I think US Navy will fuck off and preffer to fight against Civilian vessels in straits, terrorizing them wtih threats to not go to China, but they would never go even close to China out of fear of meeting the fate of Moskva cruiser. US Navy would probably be telling American government what they want to hear - just a few more days of bombing, and Kiev...sorry, just a few more days of blockade and BEIJING will start negotiating surrender! I swear, we calculated everything! And we will have threads here with "The 894 day of "All China Famine in 3 days"". +--- 57884576 +>>57882684 +Show me an warship with dual band AESA radar. Or carrier with DC catapult. +US navy dont have enough modern warships to compare + +>>57882735 +China has so much missiles that nothing on the 1st or 2nd island chain will survive. +Also US Navy airforce haven't been smaller than PLAAF for years. Your boomer knowledge are outdated. +--- 57884698 +>>57852955 +>blockade +The boring but obvious answer. In fact, that is exactly how this will go down and China knows it hence the frenzied blue-water buildup. +--- 57884743 +>>57884576 +can we see it? +--- 57884764 +>>57884743 +055, 052d and 003 all have dual band AESA. Now show me your shitty outdated ship +--- 57884871 +>>57884576 +Yes, on all the new bloc F-18s and F-35, and they've been installing them for three years on all new vessels as well as retrofitting old ones. You do realize that having shit in a mast changes nothing right? The Ford's explicitly had this as an intended feature from the design phase onward. +https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-us-navy-dual-band-radars-05393/ + +You must realize this is nothing special right? Duals Bands have existed for decades and AESA was pioneered on US aircraft. + +I don't know if you're trolling with your ESL diction or a genuine chink. + + +Chinks are so preoccupied with the carriers yet I see no way they can interdict the 50 nuclear attack submarines in the US fleet. It's like saying the post civil war US Fleet could beat the British Navy because it had more ironclads, forgetting they were all costal defense ships. +--- 57884934 +>>57884871 +Show me the number of US ship with dual band AESA then +Also, Ford catapult are AC, which is less reliable and versatile than the DC catapult on the 003, that's why Ford can't use F35 yet. +--- 57885372 +>>57884934 +im sorry, but lets say youre correct. how is your dual band AESA on your fujian that isnt even operational going to fare against at least 11 nimitz/ford class carriers again? And its a big fucking assumption that youre correct since youre full of shit. +Oh yeah, and how is a radar going to help with your trade dependency on fuel that is defintiely going to be raided by EVERY country since they all hate you? +How is your radar going to fix demographics like this again? +Sorry, this was never even supposed to be a navy argument. this was always supposed to be realization that china is fucked no matter what it does. you can fantasize in your head about chinese nukes raining on the US and island chain cities. it wont save you. +--- 57885436 +>>57885372 +Stop moving the goal post mutt. How many US warships has dual band AESA radar? Afraid to admit that the US navy is outdated? +--- 57885438 +>>57884934 +>>57885372 +You are both myopic cheerleaders with no genuine knowledge of or interest in the military capabilities of either country. The closest to /k/ either of you will ever be is serving as the jingoistic flag-wavers necessary to kick off a major regional conflict while the rest of the world looks on and says "Nobody could be dumb enough to start another war." +--- 57885469 +>>57885436 +i think youre the one moving goalposts. everyone here has acknowledged that Chinese society is fucked if it loses trade. which it will if it invaded taiwan and fails. youre the only one trying to prove PLAN superiority over USN over one simple variable in an aircraft carrier china only has one of. +--- 57885499 +>>57885469 +I repeat again: How many US warships has dual band AESA radar? +--- 57885512 +>>57885469 +I am another anon, but it's funny how you try to change topic. The guy discussing actual /k topic of radars and weapons, and you try to run away from it, trying to derail conversation into some nonsensical trade socio economic bs? +--- 57885628 +>>57885436 +DDG-120 +DDG-122 +DDG-123 + +Fords, all of them, though the earlier ones aren't as good. + +LCS-19 +LCS-22 +LCS-32 +LCS-21 +LCS-26 +LCS-24 +LCS-28 + +Can't find a list of the ones that were retrofit, probably a matter of convenience so it will be years before all existing ships get anything new. You do realize that naval ships have been using 4 or more bands since the 60s and that computer controlled arrays have existed for a long time? Without the specifications of the particular radar AESA doesn't say much and being a dual band system means little except for saved space and easier integration of data(ie yet more space saved). I mean its not useless but I have no idea why you are shilling for it so hard, is this a talking point your handlers have insisted on? + +>Ford catapult are AC, which is less reliable and versatile than the DC catapult on the 003 +Post sortie rate. +--- 57885640 +>>57885512 +this was my original post. i never changed my stance on this. >>57853473 +this is a weapons board, but what good are weapons when the society supporting the military fails. +that is what everybody in this thread has been trying to explain to our dear autist here. Theres no need for a land invasion. convince countried to stop trading with china and now it loses imoorts and exports without war. if anything, this is the pinnacle of warfare. +--- 57885737 +>>57885628 +Zero then. +China has: +052d x 25 + 10 under construction +055 x 8 + 1 under construction +003 +Thanks for proving my point that Chinese warships are techonogically ahead of the USA. +>>57885640 +USA lost the trade war, that's why you are in inflation while China isn't affected. Also China has the same median age as the USA and has better automation and infrastructure. China is in a much better condition than the USA. Please don't wake up. +--- 57886068 +>>57885737 +Bugmen be gone! +--- 57886177 +>>57852332 (OP) +What the fuck is this fan fiction you absolute mongoloid? +--- 57886221 +>>57885640 + Dude imagine if any time you were to discuss wars and weapons, people would point out that USA is full of NIGGERS and in case of a war, they would all chimp out and the crime would go through the roof, with cities in USA turning into the war zones, with spontaneous racially diverse millitia and bandit gangs popping up everywhere. Because let's be frank, Tyrone is not going to fight for USA, but worsening economic outlook will force him to be even more criminal and aggressive, while all the white boys be dying God knows for what on the other side of the Pacific. So basically your American demographics are screwed, but war with China will do irreparable damage even further. White birthrates are plummeying, Democrats are electing trannies and pedos into the positions of power everywhere, sterilizing the last white kids while convincing them to be "stars" for ugly drag perverts. +Do you think all of this relevant to war? If not, then why the fuck you pretend that this type of shit is relevant when discussing China? +--- 57886294 +>>57885628 +LCS (the newer ones) are equipped with TRS-4D, which is a C band radar from Hensoldt. They're not dual band. +You're confusing AESA with dual band AESA because you're a fucktard. +--- 57886306 +>>57885737 +see >>57886294 +the guy you're replying to is a fucking moron. +Instead of debating the exact merits of a dual band AESA this bitch googled AESA and shat out a worthless list. He probably doesn't even know what the first AMDR proposal was. +--- 57886367 +>>57863905 +Operation "Make them as fat as US" is working I see... +--- 57886661 +>>57852332 (OP) +Biden would fight on the side of china +--- 57886739 +Implessive, as a chang from changsha, I’m devastated by this hypothesis, and deeply demoralized by the sheer amount of shitposts. I decided that I will not defend china, instead I will flee to the US and breed their women. +--- 57887146 +>>57886221 +People say that constantly, literally constantly. +--- 57887179 +>>57885737 +>china isnt affected +you can keep deluding yourself but it doesnt change china's oil import dependency, their fertilizer import dependency, and their lockdown of beijing for an entire year because of COVID lmao. +>china has the same median age +thats not what matters in a demographic statistic. and I wouldnt brag about that exactly. with demographics this shit, the same median age just means that chinese birth rates are so bad that the population is at the same median age as the US despite US superiority in medical technology. +see the dark blue here? >>57885372 +that is the excess male population in china. that is called trouble, since they wont find domestic mates. thank you one child policy but what i would be WAY more concerned about are the up and down spikes in population as you look at the ages. you can basically expect a 20-30 year gap between a population and their children. 20-40 year olds are responsible for making new 0-20 year olds. notice something? that's right, there's half as many 0-20 year olds as 20-40 year olds. Youre getting a halving of the population within a single generation. That doesnt bode well for when those 20-40 year olds retire. remember, big population = big children, small population = small children. Eventually, you just don't have enough people to maintain the large cities and industrial manufacturing complex that china needed in becoming modern. This is why the west is obsessed with immigration by the way. +--- 57887236 +>>57886221 +if this was a discussion about waging war on the US, then american demographics, and possible american insurgencies are absolutely relevant to the discussion. moreso than the weapons themselves. Weapons dont mean shit if you cant make them, maintain them, and then shoot them because of domestic problems. unfortunately for you america didnt shoot itself in the dick with a one child policy for 50 years, and they have ample domestic food, fertilizer, and energy production domestically. +--- 57887405 +>>57887179 +>you can keep deluding yourself but it doesnt change china's oil import dependency, their fertilizer import dependency, and their lockdown of beijing for an entire year because of COVID lmao. +Yet it's the USA that's in inflation not China, funny isn't it? +--- 57887433 +>>57887405 +China also experienced inflation, their currency is just already devalued so they didn't notice. +--- 57887475 +>>57887433 +Explain why the prices of food and staples in China are still at pre covid level then? +--- 57887495 +>>57887475 +>and staples +Are staples really considered an economic indicator over there? +--- 57887512 +>>57852955 +>Without food imports a 3rd of the population will die within a few years +Between One Child, dams like 3 Gorges going down day one by Taiwan or Japan alone, and "seven year grain stockpiles" being sold faster than Russian ERA, it's safe to say that Red China depopulates radically inside 6 months. The place isn't worth keeping, much less occupying. + +>>57863836 +The GDP numbers are fantasy, Chang. +--- 57887528 +>>57887475 +Offset by the communal rice halls which have put many local businesses deep in the red, and so hilariously failed during every food crisis. +--- 57887530 +>>57863905 +>Reddit spacing +This >>57881168 Enjoy endless swine ebola communist +--- 57887629 +>>57880636 +Chinese nuclear response would be intercepted and also give us justification to nuke the entire Chinese coast and wipe the disgusting barbarians out once and for all. +--- 57887703 +>>57884349 +Is yellow fever really insane enough to compare US to fucking russia but fail to see the direct parallel to it that is china? +--- 57887922 +>>57887495 +>doesn't know what consumer staples means +Ok retard +--- 57888032 +>>57886294 +>>57886306 + +No faggot I looked at the backlog for defense industry daily I then looked to see when they said dual band AESA was to be implemented on both destroys and LCS. According to everything I read they operate on C and X while the chinks operate on C and S. I then named the relevant ships fitted out and commissioned after that date as well as any others they mentioned, namely the Fords. It was my understanding they were sticking SPY-3/ SPY-4 on a bunch of shit and SPY-6 on others all of which are dual band aesa. + +If they are wrong then so be it but I haven't seen anything about a delay in the implementation so those should be the relevant ships. And I guess they want to equipped some the amphibious assets and frigates with them, but I can't find any information about them actually being installed. +--- 57888261 +>>57888032 +Also the APG-81 which is on the planes can operate on X and SHF and is an aesa. Once again, I don't know why the chink is obsessed with this particular system? +--- 57888552 +>>57888261 +why are you coping with the F-35's radar? We're talking about shipborne systems here, muttigger. +--- 57889048 +>>57888032 +US has 10 Ship AESA, 7 of them are useless LCS. +China has 33 Destroyer with dual band AESA, with 9 more coming out in 2023. China's next batch of 54B frigate will also have AESA. +Also, Ford use AC catapult which an inferior tech to DC catapult on the 003. AC catapults are less reliable and cant launch heavy aircraft, while DC catapult can launch both UAV, fighter and AWAC + +PLAN has a greater number of modern warships than the USN that's a fact. Stay delusional +--- 57889327 +>>57860736 +thats not really a feasible idea due to the same reason that there are few train tracks from Russia to China +land routes are extremely expensive, and this is ignoring the time it would take for Russia/China, assuming it was willing which is dubious since the western world would probably financially incentivize them not to be, to actually build the infrastructure required. +iirc, assuming there is no conflict going on and nations are not joining sanctions, land route shipping is roughly 8x~ more expensive (the number would be a LOT higher in actual conflict) +--- 57889415 +>>57873980 +>all our hopes of force projection are basically gone forever +>what do you mean the nation pivoted production when war broke out? why aren't they just building the same thing? +--- 57889428 +>this whole thread +--- 57889503 +>>57889048 +>if i reduce ships to its radar and its emal type i can claim that the entire USN is useless +>conveniently forgets that PLAN has 48 vs USN 62 destroyers +>conveniently forgets that china has 2 obsolete ramp carriers, fujian isnt even in active service +>USN has 10 active nimitz carrier, 1 ford class carrier +>b-but muh emal and radar +not so relevant when USAF has airfield and bases everywhere in the island chain for AWACS and heavier bombers, even assuming your entire crap about "m-muh DC catapult is le better because it just is" bullshit is true. +So yeah, maybe two factors don't just win you naval engagements out of your ass, especially when youre heavily outnumbered, and geograohically surrounded by nations that hate you. +again, i also always found it interesting that you just ignore the japanese, SK, aus, indian, and SEA navy who the US will call to get in on humiliating the chinese. turns out, people dont like authoritarian governments that blatantly steal intellectual property and brazenly copy US designs of their warships. + +So yeah, the only one who has ever coped in this entire thread is you. because youre coping that your dual band AESA is somehow going to save you for the shitshow that will come if you attack and fail to take taiwan. +--- 57889556 +>>57853738 +>>antichrist does his thing +>>Christ does his thing +>>aliens were also there +>>turns out everything was just consciousness, magnetism, and electricity +>>magnetism + +Oh shit it’s the Lost finale +--- 57889577 +>>57852336 +fpbp +--- 57889632 +>>57852332 (OP) +>he thinks America won't be in a full out internal race war by 2027 and will be in any type of position to invade China after getting embarrassed in Afghanistan and getting nothing after 20 years of effort +Fucking kek +You will never win any war again +--- 57889667 +>>57889503 +>conviently forget that all of US destoyer are outdated. +>conviently forget that Chinese destoyer has asbm that outrange carriers. +>conviently forget that all US bases in asia will get deleted wothin the first our of the war. +Also China can build more ship and weapons than the entire NATO. US cs China is reverse pacific war. + +>just ignore the japanese, SK, aus, indian, and SEA navy who the US will call to get in on humiliating the chinese. turns out, +Too puny and outdated to make difference +China is not locked in with you, you are locked in with China. +--- 57889879 +>>57889667 +>X are obsolete if i say they are +show us. prove it +>meanwhile only active aircraft carriers uses RAMP. also only have 2 (TWO) of them +not a good look my dude. +>neighbours too puny and outdated to make a difference +i bet the russians thought that too before invading ukraine. +--- 57891307 +>>57889632 +You do realize a race war results in a white American victory and extermination of 100 million muds/jews within 6 months? There won't be a multipolar world but rather a practically disarmed world at the mercy of merciless american empire. 50 Nuclear attack subs will sink or steal every major shipment on the sea lanes. Medicine, food, fertilizer, and energy will cease to move. Society will collapse. And heartless white killers will stalk the ashes of global civilization feeding on you all for the sheer joy of murder. +--- 57891532 +>>57889327 +Dude, if this was in peace time then 8X more expensive would indeed mean - "unfeasible, non-practical, economical waste". +But if we are talking about WAR TIME and this is a choice between certain death or...spending 8X time more money on something to prevent that death by expanding the route to Russia and running more trains and cars on it, then economic consideration of market capitalism from peace time go fuck out of the window. What matters is POSSIBILITY and not FEASIBILITY. +So is it possible to get resources from Russia in case of the naval blockade at sea? Yes. Is it feasible? Who the fuck cares, and if someone cares - just shoot him in the head and continue discussion without this dumb element who doesn't understand the reality of the war situation. In war times people don't think about profit, they think about security. All of the US bases in Afghanistan had several trucks with constantly running engines, non stop, 365 days a year engines eating oil for 20 years - for security, in case the base is under attack and they need to make sure that engine will be running already. You think someone in US government said - "but this is expensive"? +China and Russia have great expertise in building the rail networks, so in case of war, i bet they can just employ millions of workers to expand those rail lines in all directions. For Russia it would be enormous profit and for China the life line. +--- 57891545 +>Sinoschizo thread #3937283 +filtered +Ban all Sinoshizos +Rangeban all East Asian IPs diff --git a/k/57853979.txt b/k/57853979.txt index 413ef77a8bea095841259520981305c8bc26f011..eaa0c8e265500fdcea3e142e8b7e4b9b666da43e 100644 --- a/k/57853979.txt +++ b/k/57853979.txt @@ -656,3 +656,186 @@ Get a 56S-2 and get to work. They're are 2 factory 56S-2 spikers in the US that I'm aware of so you'll definitely be piecemealing it together. Bakelite sidefolders are cool, but it's just a rifle. >But if you have the means, don't let your dreams stay dreams +--- 57879930 +>>57878855 +Same way a sig 55x series is considered an AK. +--- 57880143 +Suck my dick tranny discord niggers. Ukraine and Russia suck +--- 57880449 +>>57879389 +Nice photo +--- 57880545 +>>57864595 +Every time I said I didn’t really care for Zastavas rifles there’d always be a few pop up and seethe comment about how they’re justasgood etc. but here we are. I know all manufacturers have problems from time to time but I just don’t trust Zastavas metallurgy +--- 57880587 +>>57865127 +Regular poly coated or even non coated steel case would’ve been fine too as long as you didn’t leave in in the water for days. The powder would’ve been dry. Only problem would’ve been rust if you left them wet for too long +--- 57880601 +>>57865299 +Yea, Barnaul and Golden Tiger are the two greatest +--- 57880678 +>>57874006 +Nice b8 +--- 57881306 +>>57872176 +>>57872201 +>>57872673 +they were closed yesterday if they still have it when i get off work i'll buy it today +--- 57881349 +>>57878015 +>If I recall correctly +That it was. It's probably destroyed now ;__; +--- 57881733 +>>57877897 +Very true. Mine was awful to shoot out of the box. I only shot two mags through mine to make sure everything worked before I filed my form 1. It was so awful to shoot that I didn’t touch it again until it was chopped. Now it’s a joy to shoot. +--- 57882589 +>>57881306 +tell me where it's at I'll buy it +--- 57883185 +Not an AK, but any VZ 58 fags in here? Which one is most clone correct? Black and buy barf furniture separately, or the gray that comes with barf furniture? Roughly same price. Also which flash hider should I get for maximum Czech autism? + +https://atlanticfirearms.com/czech-small-arms-vz-58-military + +https://atlanticfirearms.com/vz-58-rifle-military-gray-phenolic-czechpoint# +--- 57884574 +>>57880449 +In what way? thats a reddit tard tier picture +--- 57884582 +>>57884574 +why be so negative friend? +--- 57884611 +>>57883185 +pretty sure czech point sends in vz58 to kikelantic, don't know much about vz58's but I assume those are straight form the source, and the sell out really quick though +--- 57884668 +>>57884611 +So since posting I was reading that grey is the original finish +--- 57885550 +>>57854536 +Trijicon mro hd +--- 57887136 +>>57883185 +Grey is correct but that grey is quite light colored. +--- 57887173 +>>57885550 +Those are still complete trash +--- 57887485 +>>57861954 +*sks +--- 57887539 +>>57861954 +buy these they're everywhere +https://www.amazon.com/Cancelling-Shooting-Silicone-Lightweight-Construction/dp/B095797SMS?ac_md=5-3-RWFycGx1Z3M%3D-ac_d_hl_hl_rf&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D +--- 57887828 +>>57861954 +Wear ear plugs under your muffs you fucking retard +--- 57888477 +>tfw they're one of us +--- 57888769 +>>57854536 +Obzor +--- 57888777 +I am tempted to buy an ak pistol in 7.62x39mm but don't know whether to buy the WBP mini Jacek or the Zastava ak pistols. Are any of them stamped or milled? +--- 57888835 +>>57888477 +>one of us +>youtube content creator +NEVER +NEVER +TIME AND TIME AGAIN +NEVER +--- 57888850 +>>57879249 +Based +--- 57888868 +>make a new video about the sam7 despite having multiple videos about it +>put it up on fudbroker the next day +t-thanks misha +--- 57888941 +>>57888835 +pretty sure that's just some guy working at zastava usa lmao +--- 57889087 +>>57888777 +There is a WPB Mini Jack on a milled receiver but the rest of them are all stamped including the Zastava ones. +I love my M92 for what its worth, it is a kit build though so its not exactly the same as what is sold today. +--- 57889197 +>>57889087 +I prefer a stamped receiver for a WBP but I don't think there is any mention of it in AoA unless I am being retarded. +--- 57889202 +>>57854536 +Whatever your prefered red dot is. + +If not a red dot than irons. +--- 57889233 +>>57888769 +If you can even find one and are prepared to pay a lot +--- 57889247 +>>57889202 +Is that one of those WBP parts kits? Neat. +>>57889197 +$800 + tax and tip. +https://armsofamerica.com/wbp-polish-mini-jack-ak47-7-62x39-pistol/ +--- 57889251 +>>57854536 +Like my T2 on my 74u, and my PA 3x on my 74 +--- 57889284 +>>57889251 +Forgot to add why, big retard moment. Like my T2 because I don't plan on using my 74u past 300yds and it's the perfect dot for the gun imo. Could have put it further if I drilled my dust cover for a stormwerkz but I could never do that + to this gun. + +Bought my 3x mostly because of that rob ski vid, and it's been pretty good to me thus far. And it's on the cheaper end too. I don't have a range to shoot past 300yds, but 300yd and in it's been great for me. Could definitely push it further though. +--- 57889324 +>>57888868 +Some retard will buy it, Reddit still praises the sam7 series as one of the best AKs +--- 57889329 +>>57889233 +There was one for sale on the files but yeah its expensive as fuck. $750 is too much +I've never used one personally but if they're anything like they are in Tarkov, they are ass lmao. +--- 57889356 +>>57889233 +Worst tint of any optic ever made. Wouldn't use it for free. +--- 57889366 +>>57889247 +>https://armsofamerica.com/wbp-polish-mini-jack-ak47-7-62x39-pistol/ +Why is there no mention of it being a stamped on the description? +--- 57889367 +>>57889329 +They are pretty decent irl, Tarkov is pretty shit game tho +--- 57889390 +>>57889367 +They're dogshit. A $100 holosun or romeo5 is 10x better +--- 57889403 +>>57889390 +I mean I'd rather buy an aimpoint instead of funding the chinese MIC +--- 57889435 +>>57889403 +I mean I'd rather buy an eotech/trijicon instead of funding eurofag sissies +--- 57889450 +>>57889435 +Trijicon sure but Eotech? lmao tier +--- 57889682 +>>57889366 +I believe its due to how they list the product +they specifically have one listing that has milled in the title +Otherwise you just have to tell from the picture (and hope what they have as the picture is what they send you) +https://armsofamerica.com/classic-milled-mini-jack/ +--- 57889686 +>>57889247 +No its a izzy kit with a 105 block +--- 57889872 +>>57889324 +They aren't gonna buy it because it's an Arse Anal, they're gonna buy it because Mishaco owned it +--- 57889881 +>>57889682 +Ok. And the Zastava alternative? +--- 57889898 +>>57889881 +it's called a Zastava ZPAP92 +--- 57890531 +>>57854894 +stay strong +--- 57890723 +>>57873332 +Sup bro +--- 57890736 +>>57889087 +Mines at the local ak smith. I hope to join you soon king diff --git a/k/57857018.txt b/k/57857018.txt index d8f4a53f117adc75ced122071a6a53ed1f25259d..7f52874b1affa2ffa4035c485d7cba5f30f57594 100644 --- a/k/57857018.txt +++ b/k/57857018.txt @@ -732,3 +732,170 @@ That's not a kimono, that's a maid outfit. --- 57878611 >>57874702 Its a shitty .22 made by armscor, a philippine gun company. +--- 57880006 +Bump +--- 57880015 +>>57880006 +now that's a nice rollstamp, how much was it? +--- 57880071 +>>57880015 +Thanks, it was 1600 euro back in 2013 IIRC +--- 57881122 +>>57881065 +Does anyone know if the airsoft repro handguards for a m203 would fit a real rifle? +--- 57881251 +>>57857018 (OP) +Who makes 300 blk barrel for this build? Suppressor would be on it instead though. +--- 57881821 +>>57877740 +Very nice, is that a del-ton heavy barrel? What buffer spring do you have in there? +--- 57881944 +>>57874702 +Armscor M1600, chambered in .22lr. Made in the Philippines in like the 80s or some shit to give consumers a cheap M16 look alike since ARs weren't as common as they are today. It was the ugliest thing I saw at the gunshow that day so I had to get it. They make an even more ridiculous looking variant though. +--- 57882828 +>>57862772 +>MOE grips are the nicest ones +Exactly correct now buy yourself some and replace that awful stock grip you still have +--- 57883020 +>>57857018 (OP) +>carry handle gen +Heh nothing personnel bro +--- 57884655 +>>57878611 +Neat +--- 57885123 +>>57881821 +It's by Warsport, one of a handful (3?) of prototypes they made. Using an H1 for the buffer. +--- 57885769 +what up my niggers +--- 57886134 +>>57876428 +with no light? +--- 57886161 +>>57857018 (OP) +is the PSA H&R stuff good? anybody bought one yet? i was thinking of getting one when their models with the forward assist come back in stock. +--- 57886211 +>>57857018 (OP) +--- 57886278 +>>57886211 +JB Weld? +--- 57886290 +>>57886278 +Picatinny +--- 57886332 +>>57863112 +faggot +--- 57886402 +it'd be nice if brownells gets some more smith enterprise carry handle rails in. +--- 57886423 +>>57864399 +>>57863686 +My Bushmaster I bought right after the AWB expired. +--- 57886545 +My cheapo Colt LEO trade-in upper on a poverty pony. Originally bought it just for the upper receiver and was going to swap in a government 20" barrel but I like the light weight of the skinny boi. Just need to hunt down a pad that fits the retro stock to stop it sliding around on slippery fabric. +--- 57886593 +>>57871867 +Range day today went well. I was able to sight in and get the adjustable gas block tuned. No troubles at all. Still waiting on my form 1 and form 4 for the suppressor. +>>57881251 +For a Colt 733 like I've got in 300 blackout, CMMG made a 12.5" mock dissy setup. It's not clone correct because it's a rifle length handguard. Good luck finding any though, they stopped production years ago. +Best option is to do what I did, get an Odin Works 10.5" and pin a non F marked FSB to it. The barrel maintains the same diameter forward of the gas journal so you can do this relatively easy. Most barrels taper or narrow forward of the gas journal. Colt 733s were either 11.5" or 10.5" so it works. The low profile gas block you get with it just barely fits under the old style slim handguards. +--- 57886935 +>>57886161 +I got one recently, gray anodized. Well built with really tight tolerances, receivers have zero slop. They have some black anodized M16A1's and 723's in stock right now. +--- 57887004 +>>57886545 +>poverty pony with an aluminum stock +Promag has one. Search Carbine stock recoil pad. +--- 57887032 +>>57862001 +give it back tyrone +--- 57887513 +>>57886593 +That's pretty cool. I had been wanting to do something similar for a while and thought about just dimpling a 300 barrel and tapping an old fsb for set screws, but then I ended up with a "COMMANDO CAL. 5.56" lower. + +>>57886161 +Got a stripped receiver set from them a few months ago. No issues so far, closes up tight. +--- 57887611 +>>57881944 +>DW SUK +--- 57887921 +>>57864399 +Very close not bad +>>57886423 +this one is more accurate to the m4 in CS 1.6/CSS because of the detachable ch +--- 57888503 +>>57857018 (OP) +Based thread. Lots of pencils. +--- 57888513 +>>57888503 +Forgot contribution. +--- 57888522 +>>57888513 +what sight and stock? +--- 57888540 +>>57887921 +When I got it I thought it was pretty high speed with the big “Colt style” knobs. +--- 57888637 +>>57857058 +Cry more, bitch nigger +--- 57888650 +>>57857058 +>another migraine war thread +I think we have worse problems +--- 57888660 +>>57888522 +The optic is a poortex strikefire. Basically their 30mm tube. Just took it out of that godawful mount. Not sure what brand the stock is. Picked it up from a parts bin at my lgs. +--- 57888716 +>>57888660 +does anyone know where to get those kino shiny sets of A2 furniture? everywhere I look its just matte +--- 57888738 +>>57888637 +do you know if anyone makes A2 stocks with a swiveling joint like the A1, even if just swiveling side to side or up and down like yours? + +>Captcha +8THNK +--- 57888831 +>>57888738 +I unno. It's an type D buttstock I got for making my early 604 clone before the price went full retard a while back. ffs theyre like 300$ now that I looked +It doesn't twist sideways. Just swivels forward and back +--- 57888968 +>>57882828 +the A1 stock and the MOE handguard are the best +>>57886161 +I have one of their barrels but I missed out on getting a receiver +probably going to need to send the barrel back if it's canted (which it probably is because lol PSA) +apparently Mike went down there and started beating people purple after he figured out what was going on with the front sight blocks +--- 57888973 +>>57888738 +I actually rattlecanned mine with a black semi to somewhat mimic that. Turned out fairly convincing in person. More noticeable on a1 handguards I did it on. +--- 57888987 +>>57888503 +that is because pencil is objectively correct +--- 57889008 +>>57888987 +Agreed anon. +--- 57889085 +1/12 or 1/7 twist. leaning 12 for the authenticity +--- 57889107 +>>57889085 +You should do 1/7, without a doubt +--- 57889168 +I love my 723 knockoff but I hate buffer tube stocks cuz they pull my beard hair out and it gets so annoying. I’m thinking about stripping it and building it as a 715/C7 knockoff so I don’t have to be clean shaven to enjoy it but then it feels redundant cuz I already have an A1 and A2 and the C7 isn’t that much different. +--- 57889198 +>>57889085 +Have both, rarely shoot anything other than 55gr and can’t tell the difference. My 1/12 doesn’t keyhole with 62gr but doesn’t shoot as tight as with 55gr. If 1/12 was all I had I wouldn’t care in the slightest because I’m already rarely if ever shooting anything other than m193 and with that it’s perfectly fine. +--- 57889346 +>>57889198 +this +Fuckers act like you have a current chinese issued rifle with a 1/12 +--- 57889862 +>>57889168 +Very nice 16" anon. +--- 57890657 +>>57889862 +>16” +--- 57890964 +>>57890657 +>>16" +--- 57891649 +>>57880071 diff --git a/k/57857308.txt b/k/57857308.txt index 500881bdf68361ab55b67e1b0a62f04da32fbb34..36ea92c57c34cc706d3ebba278dc55a1674e1cf8 100644 --- a/k/57857308.txt +++ b/k/57857308.txt @@ -668,3 +668,172 @@ Why did you redact the site id? It would only be used by ATC internally. --- 57879469 >>57857308 (OP) based and fun LARP, anon. Would read through again. +--- 57880397 +>>57877010 +I’m the J-22 guy, my discord is pod 8#1226. I assume we’d probably go at night right? +--- 57881116 +>>57878067 +Not pike county sheriff or resident. + +Yes they have been convicted. Turns out that some of the family that committed the crimes immediately sold all of their land for dirt cheap, $300,000 IIRC and then fucked off to Alaska. Feds were monitoring them when that occurred according to rumors. After they all got arrested they all started to turn against each other in court to try and get better plea deals and bargains for reduced sentences. +And the motives for the crimes? All for custody of a little girl. Want to give a child a better life? Proceed to murder her mother’s side of the family then have the father’s family rot in prison for the rest of their lives. +Poor kid. +There was also some weed/cockfighting stuff going on but I am unsure the relation of that to the killings. +>>57878376 +Will there be an underground arms dealer that also has large quantities of vodka and sausage? +>We're expanding the zone. +Lots of places to explore and expand to around us. +>>57878422 +Neat +>>57880823 +Something tells me this sign isn’t informing us of some fine toe tapping tunes. +--- 57881993 +>>57879390 +I have a kayak, albeit a very bright colored kayak. It can make it there but I would need to bring provisions such as tarps or netting to hide it from view. +--- 57883625 +If I’m going to the outskirts of a town, what should I wear? I assume not full camo fatigues +--- 57884515 +>>57883625 +dress up as Bigfoot +--- 57884987 +Might have time to go out this week, as I'm burning up some of my use or lose leave days... Its all gonna depend on if I can get the tire on my truck patched, and to a lesser degree, get the spark plugs swapped. I'm out in New Mexico, anyone have any suggestions for locations? I have a few spots in mind, but I'm open to anywhere if someone would like a scouting report done before they go +>pic semi related, probably gonna take the a4-ish out instead of the SKS. I've got a fuckton of 5.56 and not so much x39/8mm/54r +--- 57885542 +>>57884987 +Isn’t there a number of abandoned areas and even ghost towns out west? Might be a fun place to go stalkering but I would imagine tourists and other explorers might not take kindly to open carry. +--- 57885821 +>>57885542 +The ones that I know of that still have structures standing are pretty touristy, but I do have some locations that were were/are ghost towns. I just dont think there are anymore standing structures at those. What I really would like to find are old military installations or civil infrastructure of any sort. The very few ones I do know about are on private property, and are actively monitored +--- 57886044 +>>57876278 +I've been slowly compiling a list of places I've picked up from here or places I've been to or places friends have heard of. It's not a very good list and I'm sure there's alot more but it's something and it's at a point where it brings hope to my fellow AZ stalkers. +--- 57886210 +>>57881993 +My canoe is reflective silver. I've been thinking about this as well. There will need to be camo netting for the boats and for the buildings and positions. Netting and tarps will be crucial to this operation. I'm already pulling up different camo nets on amazon. +--- 57886316 +>>57879390 +Neat idea, keep us updated +--- 57886476 +Epic thread, needs screencap +>>57857646 +This thing, much like some of my favorite games, is in need of a balance patch. It looked fine the first time I saw it back in 2010, but age and logic have revealed the flaws to me. +Some things that stick out: +>food difficulty should be by weight, not $ +>the age of cheap slavshit and mislurp did not last forever unfortunately +>Ammo has almost no effect on difficulty and bringing more can hurt your score, but maybe that's by design to help players realize the power of travelling light? Genius, if true +>the point value for leaving a stash is lower than finding one +>leaving no garbage lying around should be a point bonus for every faction, not just one +Now there's a thread idea, could even be a general desu +--- 57886597 +>>57880831 +Is that the old North Concord AFS? I've always wanted to go. +--- 57886713 +>>57886597 +Normiefucked beyond all recognition, sadly +--- 57886781 +>>57886713 +Goddamnit. I'd hoped that the distance would help dissuade them. +--- 57886841 +>>57886781 +Lmfao it's only 4 hours from their Boston suburbs. Get ready to be sneered at by middle aged white women delivered there by lifted punisher skull adorned F-150s +--- 57886891 +>>57886841 +Fuck. +>Titan I and Atlas-F siloes are all flooded and/or privately owned +>Titan II and Minuteman I/IIs are all blown up +>the Montauk AFS building is closed up and the park is infested with New York morons +>old AT&T Long Lines towers are either torn down or have been repurposed for 3G/4G cell connections +>the big 3 major nuclear bunkers (NORAD, Raven Rock, Mount Weather) are all still in use +Is there any decent Cold War shit left to explore in CONUS? +--- 57886920 +>>57857308 (OP) +Idk why but this is my favorite thread on /k/ in a long time. Thanks for posting OP +--- 57887550 +>>57886891 +All the decaying locations in the rust belt or elsewhere that were abandoned by the US government or private industries are being repurposed or resold. +Can’t have nice empty buildings or complexes like post-Soviet nations. +--- 57887660 +>>57857308 (OP) +Based and blessed thread. + +>>57857712 +That was a holdover from when the challenge was closer to the vidya counterparts, plus "less ammo = less fun shooting". The newer version is the other way around, and can be found at http://inna.zone + +>>57862057 +Alvira Bunkers, pic related. + +Follow the guide on inna.zone though, the entire rust belt is rich with places. Just trace out railroad tracks and look for cool shit on satellite. + +>>57862534 +Ok, now I remember your thread. Holy fuck, if it actually wasn't a larp I'll lose my shit. + +>>57863291 +As the challenge author, I can officially say that actually getting irradiated gives you the "IRL Zone" bonus. + +>>57869718 +Generally tons of antioxidants, iodine to prevent the thyroid from holding radioactive isotopes of iodine, and some other esoteric medical stuff. It's not a magic "one syringe and you're cured of radiation" but last time I read papers on ARS treatment my biology background left me pretty impressed. + +>>57874688 +Would. +--- 57887878 +>>57859096 +Based DS player. I like to bring mine along. +--- 57887893 +>>57887878 +I don't have a DS, I literally found that floating in the water. +--- 57887908 +>>57887660 +Sick new rules! Thank you sidorovich anon. +--- 57888002 +okay I like this most recent set of rules the most. very good work. It's a lot more fleshed out. As a freedom enjoyer I like to see I have something to do now. Gonna make so many barricades and guard for monolith and mutants. +--- 57888154 +I’m glad STALKER challenges are coming back with the weather. +I found a bunker deep in my property. +There were some +Moldy spots so I went back with bleach. Plan on going back with an camp stove or something. There is a hole in the roof, but I’m not sure if it’s got any airflow as the only draft I was getting was from a crack/hole at the back of the bunker. Thanks anons for looking. The hole may be covered. There is wood on top and no light comes through. +Thank you for reading my blog lol +--- 57888304 +>>57888154 +I’d put a far or some sort of air circulation system in there. Even in the absence of mold, stagnant air isn’t something to scoff at. +Nice bunker to hide away during the day of the rake btw. +--- 57888387 +Now that the Radiation King returned that got me thinking, does anyone remember that one anon around the same time with a webm of a chinook circling his house and weird glowing lights implying a group of people were walking in circles arpund something in the woods nearby? +--- 57888972 +Ohio anons, supposedly this coal plant has been decommissioned in the past few years along with a few others along the Ohio rover. Might make good stalkering but I would imagine some of the locations probably have security measures that are still active. The Moscow plant was destined to be a nuke facility before being made into a cools plant thus the massive cooling tower. +Also it’s in Moscow so it’s nuke and name heritage sort of blend into the STALKER theme, no? + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Zimmer_Power_Station +--- 57889089 +>>57888972 +Sounds like a lot of fun, but I wouldn't count on getting in without great levels of care and stealth. From the few times I've been in the area, seems like security keeps a close eye on it. It would be less of a stalker expedition and more of a Metal Gear Solid infiltration. But if you could manage it, it would be legendary. +--- 57889093 +>>57886891 +Yes, but I dont share them here. If you are a New Englander, find your way onto one of the trannycords and you'll eventually get the locations +--- 57889381 +>be bong +>no guns because no loicence +>no innawoods because farmers cut them all down +>no abandoned buildings because high land prices mean everything gets redeveloped these days +>tfw cannot go be Stalker + +I raise a cup of tea to you Stalkers and leave this pic (not mine) of some of the grafitti in an abandoned nursing home near me that I used to visit which has since been demolished and turned into houses. I'd post some of my old urbex photos, but they've been lost over the years. +--- 57889461 +>>57857308 (OP) +--- 57889520 +>>57889381 +Can't you go to the northern part of your island? Don't worry, anybody east of the Mississippi won't be doing much stalking either. +--- 57889562 +>>57857333 +>I am wearing a freedom patch +Just checking in to see if this place is still overwhelmed with trannies and got my answer. Carry on. +--- 57890287 +>>57862057 +rollin for duty! +--- 57890522 +>>57886044 +camp reno +https://www.ghosttowns.com/states/az/campreno.html +--- 57891584 +>>57860269 +>https://discord.gg/5fYrpArS +Oh its this again. diff --git a/k/57858727.txt b/k/57858727.txt index be023cdbdcbb51910a00d7b094836a51d7d208df..49d6c62a1769579bd722acef16fe87a7c094970d 100644 --- a/k/57858727.txt +++ b/k/57858727.txt @@ -196,3 +196,63 @@ Have an idea for some stuff lever without optic? --- 57878466 WTT sig 551a1 for aug a3 + 1500 +--- 57880095 +Bump +--- 57880649 +>>57878388 +$800? +--- 57882507 +Bump +--- 57882522 +>>57869249 +Very nice. + +-Buck "Doc" McBrackland, signin' off! +--------------------------------------------------------------------- +USMC 77th "Hell Devil Hounds", MOS: 0531, 1984-1986 + +"Size em' up, pack em' in, ring em' out, and let em' have it!" Cpl Bobby "Devil Hands" Handleberger, USMC "Bloody Rhino Hounds"", 1975-1977 + +Rapid fire? I should tan your hide till the chickens call high noon! If you need more than one bullet, you were never gonna make it... + +1977 Chevy Monza!!!! (Jealous? Well then, you and the missus got somethin' in common!) +--- 57882553 +>>57882522 +Based Arfcom boomer. +--- 57884984 +>>57868194 +If only I had the $ +--- 57886416 +>>57882522 +>1977 Chevy Monza +I'll never forgive gm for letting go of the rotary engine even if it was a piece of shit. The idea of Doritos powered Z24 amuses me +--- 57886522 +>>57859934 +If this is up next week I might bite. Gotta do some parts inventory and hit the gun show this weekend first +--- 57886996 +Wtb HK91 low pro mount, OG claw mount (must be HK), collapsible stock, and bipod. I'll take clone shit for anything other than the claw mount. +--- 57887844 +>>57866071 +The aurora still available? +--- 57887847 +>>57880649 +naw +--- 57889623 +>>57864727 +Geissele SSA Trigger - SOLD +Geissele Barrel Nut Wrench - SOLD +--- 57889877 +>>57864727 +>Used Buffer Tube Assembly +>Aero Precision Buffer Tube, Aero Precision H2 Buffer & Spring, PWS Ratchet Lock Castle Nut and Endplate - $40 +How many rounds through this? I'm interested if it's light salt. How much shipped with fee altogether? +--- 57890809 +>>57889877 +I haven't put any rounds through it, it's just been put on and taken off a few times. There's some wear from a stock being on the buffer tube, and some light wear on the buffer face- that's about it. I'm asking $40 shipped. +--- 57891064 +WTB + +Beretta APX Target. +--- 57891485 +>>57887844 +Yeah email me diff --git a/k/57861708.txt b/k/57861708.txt index 355f9b45fa3abcdfd2cbf9217ea6dd29e4397502..047a2eb1eb38e75c377b405d0587df6b6a61311d 100644 --- a/k/57861708.txt +++ b/k/57861708.txt @@ -180,3 +180,336 @@ Okay This comes from the exploding g22 and the other glocks chambered in 40 I guess. However, the chamber is indeed not fully supported. I own a g22 and also handload 40 and I still have both hands and a functioning g22 so ymmv I guess Nyet, pistol is fine. +--- 57879848 +>>57878400 +A bad trigger is literally a manufacturer issue +The rest of your drivel concludes with “nyet pistol is fine” which is a dead /k/ meme. Learn to fucking move on, we know better now, glocks fucking suck. +--- 57880301 +>>57879848 +It's not a bad trigger unless it's so heavy or long it throws shots. Caring about the way it feels is just petty. If the way it feels throws your shots, you're literally just a noob. +--- 57880461 +I will now buy your handgun +--- 57881999 +>>57878115 +>If you look at the damn thing compared to every other handgun of that time, it was obviously that era's equivalent of the Hi Point. +This lol, it's so well-known even NPR of all goddamned places has an article on this + +>Gaston Glock was inclined to sell it at a relatively low price, retail price in this country, and Karl Walter said no, we're going to set the retail price relatively high. We don't want people think this is a junk gun. We want them to think that this is a high-quality gun, and the price will indicate that. + +>But then when he went to police departments, he said, look, I'll give you a huge discount from the, you know, the recommended retail price. Basically, you tell me what you can pay, you give me your old guns as trade-ins, and I'll outfit you with new Glocks. + +https://www.npr.org/transcripts/145640473 +--- 57882189 +>>57878400 +>heh, it’s not shit, you’re just not skilled enough to wield it +A good weapon is one that can easily be used proficiently. That way, your skills will shine their brightest. Calling the shitty Glock trigger a “skill issue” is nerfing yourself for no reason. +--- 57882206 +>>57880301 +>caring about the way a trigger feels is just petty +The way a trigger feels is one of the most important aspects of shooting. Get Gaston’s cock out of your mouth. +--- 57882359 +>>57882189 +In the grand scheme of strikers, glock's trigger is merely average, and yet this category of pistols is the fastest growing in the industry and has been for the last 30 years. So it's either you or it's all of us, idk man +--- 57882389 +>>57882206 +I truly can't imagine being stumped by a stock glock trigger. +--- 57883163 +>>57882359 +Because people think blasting at torso-sized paper targets from 7 yards is supposed to be impressive +--- 57883197 +The general idea and theme of a Glock 19 isn't terrible, but I think Palmetto State Armory is taking it in a much better direction than Glock is with their compact Dagger. +--- 57883297 +>>57882389 +>>57882359 +No one’s stumped you retard it’s just not worth the price. A number of cheaper pistols don’t have the problems glocks have yet you continue to suck off gaston because his company has good marketing and sold his pistols to police forces around the world for just barely above cost of manufacture. +--- 57883336 +Glock really should have gone the gucci route like PSA and had their Gen 3 models be customizable on their website. They wouldn't have even had to bother with making a Gen 4 or 5, although adding incremental quality of life upgrades would be nice. +--- 57883413 +>>57883297 +Man you must really like sucking off dudes considering how often you bring it up. +--- 57883774 +>>57874320 +Is that nostalgia critic? +--- 57883833 +>>57883413 +Cry harder +--- 57883926 +Don't care, jew in the video, opinion disregarded. I've own several glocks and more than a handful of others, including S&W, Ruger, Springfield, NAA, and more. I use glock as my EDC. I have never had an issue with it. It is comfortable to carry and controllable when shooting. No matter what brand or grain of ammo, it never jams. The only upgrades I have done are the sights and the mag release, but it would have been fines without those. It's fine if you want to hate glock, like how Ford lovers may hate Chevy; everyone has a preference. But a Glock is most certainly not a shit gun. You can hate it for whatever arbitrary made up reason you want, but it's is perfectly fine and reliable, and I literally stake my life on that opinion daily when I choose to carry it over other brands. +--- 57884623 +>>57866320 +Maybe it's because I haven't shot enough Glocks, but I have never had a Glock where I automatically knew where it was going to fire, it just went off after squeezing hard enough +--- 57884816 +>>57866320 +The Glock trigger is bad. You have to train around it. You have to compensate for it. You have to think about it. It does not match the trigger pull of your AR, your shotgun, your hammer-fired handguns, etc. +You CAN put enough time on the Glock to get great at shooting them. You can learn exactly how much force to apply and exactly when and where the mushy harbor freight staplegun trigger will drop the striker. +They question is: why would you? When there are a million better options, why are you shooting this ugly plastic piece of dogshit? +The only reason I can think of is if you're prepping for some kind of government collapse boogaloo scenario. That wouldn't be because they are good, it would be because they are ubiquitous. There are so many of these garbage bricks lying around owned by everyone from urban youfs to unbearable LARPerators, the most melanated of crack heads to the two man PD of Bumblefuck Idaho, that you will always have parts and mags for them. +--- 57884914 +>>57883833 +>can't get the image of Gaston Glock's cock out of his mind +>unironically got filtered by the Glock trigger +>"n-no u" +Post your P210 since triggers are so important to you. +--- 57884925 +>>57865753 +Training and standardization. And some groups carry modded 1911 style pistols if anything +--- 57884967 +>>57873387 +>make claim +>can't back it up +>"dude trust me my dad's the CEO of JSOC you just gotta look it up yourself bro" +Yeah, okay. I'm sure the anon on 4chan who won't even hint at where his sooper sekret insider knowledge came from is more qualified than 99% of operators. Hell, I'd wager a motor pool tech is more qualified than you. Faggot. +--- 57884982 +>>57873751 +Post credentials +--- 57885003 +>>57861708 (OP) +Glocks are perfect for restricted-fags who can't own suppressors. +--- 57885014 +>>57884925 +Jesus Christ grandpa, hurry up and fucking die already +--- 57885027 +>>57878400 +>gun is fine +I never understood this mentality. Why be fine when it can be finer? If Glock think they're perfect, they'll never improve +--- 57885048 +>>57884925 +And Vietcong mountain raiders carried Martini-Henry rifles. +--- 57885069 +>>57884914 +>can't get Gastons meat out his own mouth +>projects on others +Shiggy diggy +--- 57885092 +>>57885027 +They're fine, they aren't perfect, but at the point we are at with handgun development, there is no low hanging fruit to improve anymore and everything is a tradeoff now. For instance, weight and recoil impulse. If you want a lighter gun you get more recoil, and that is just the way things are. +--- 57885094 +>>57884925 +No they don't, lol. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The last group to use the 1911 was MARSOC, and they moved to Glock in 2016. +--- 57885102 +>>57885069 +No brought up his schlong until you did, buddy. Still waiting for your competition gun with a .2lb pull and cunt hair break by the way. Surely you have one since that's what makes or breaks a gun to you. +--- 57885128 +>>57870649 +I've been getting recommended more videos that are sub-100 view count lately. It's possible, though unlikely, that OP is only retarded and not a shill +--- 57885168 +>>57882206 +No it's not you're just a noob who needs a crutch to hopefully shoot better. I've never even noticed how the trigger pull feels, the only thing that matters in terms of helping you shoot better is finding where the break is. I've shot guns with triggers that were too heavy like most DA's or too long like the original Ruger LC9, and that affected shots. The long pull mostly because it's harder to determine where the break is with so much slack. But as far as the actual pull feel, doesn't fucking matter. The weight and pull length only matter past an excessive point too, so dropping from 5.5lbs to 1lbs isn't something you should do. You should rather get training so you can shoot with a normal trigger better. Whenever I hear mushy or crispy I lol and it reminds me how many noobs are here. +--- 57885178 +>>57869683 +Meanwhile the ATF is hard at work trying to ban a brace +--- 57885185 +>>57885094 +>>57885014 +Delta uses 1911s. MARSOC isn't even tier 1. + +>>57885102 +Not him but I use a Beretta. Crisper break than stock Glocks any day. Never settle for less. Dickriding a mid company resting on its laurels is plenty worth mentioning. +--- 57885190 +>>57882206 +>one of the most important aspects of shooting +It's one of the most important time wasting bits in a gun review video marketed towards clueless consoomers who think that shit is important. +--- 57885228 +>>57885185 +Delta uses Glocks, and have done so for nearly two decades. They used to use G22s, now they issue 17s and 19s. +--- 57885232 +>>57885092 +There's not much tradeoff with plastic sights as opposed to metal for example. Or no front slide serrations on <Gen 5 models. Or flat af slide stops, or mushy triggers. There's a massive aftermarket which is a big boon, but why must it be that way if Glocks are supposedly perfect enough? Not saying it's bad, just middle of the road +--- 57885234 +>>57869710 +>SIG p320 +Anon we don't promote premature suicide here +--- 57885308 +>>57885232 +The tradeoff between plastic and steel is weight, price, and durability + +Plastic is actually stronger per pound, and is more durable against certain kinds of conditions (moisture, for instance) while also being cheaper. Obviously stuff still needs to be made of steel in places due to strength. + +And idk dude, why don't people make guns out of scandium? It is stronger and lighter than steel. Well, they actually do, but nobody buys them because the tradeoff is not worth it. +--- 57885428 +>>57885308 +I was talking more the differences between Glocks and similar pistols that go beyond Glocks, like M&Ps which I particularly had in mind when posting. An M&P has metal sights compared to a Glock with plastic ones, why put up with the plastic for a marginal increase in weight? Sure you can save a few grams but would it matter in the long run? Or the trigger on M&Ps, PDPs or HKs vs a Glock, what do you lose for a fancier triggers? And so on, these are all polymer pistols the same. +--- 57885452 +>Glocks suck +Glocks are like 500-600$ for a 9mm, you get what you pay for +>Glock triggers are aids and will give you megacancer +You get what you paid for. Spend 120$ and get a good one or buy something else. +>Glock mags are too big/too plastic/too etc. +You get what you pay for. Even rifle mags switched to polymer due to weight and manufacturing ease. This is the reason why the 'grip angle' is the way it is. +>Glock has too many tradeoffs +Potentially. But it just works TM. You can spend x2 the price point for something that works 25% better. For me, that economy of scale doesn't work out. The more money you spend, the less you tend to actually get once you get out of the low-medium pricepoint. + +Say all you want about their marketing, but it worked and now police use them and gangbangers do too. There's a big aftermarket that you can turn a glock into something gucci (incrementally and with far more freedom than buying a prebuilt). The shitty gun you do have is a lot better than the 1k Tangfoglio you can't afford or won't bring with you to shoot. + +Plus glock makes the only goddamn 1cm gats that I'd actually use. Every other 10mm is too expensive to be a daily carry. You don't want an uber expensive carry gun (Because police are thieves). +--- 57885514 +>>57885452 +If Glocks didn't hate suppressors it's the only pistol I would buy. +--- 57885634 +>>57885428 +Who gives a shit about stock sights when every serious gun is going to want night sights? You're going to be replacing your stock sights with Ameriglos or Trijicons anyway, so what does it matter that Smith gives you shitty pot metal sights instead of Glock giving you shitty plastic sights? Do you also complain about the shitty plastic sights on Walthers? + +Also, do you really think there aren't cons to the other guns you mentioned? The PDP is the snappiest gun in its class, the M&P inexplicably weighs four and a half ounces more than the Glock/PDP, and the VP9 trigger is in no way better than that of a Gen 5 Glock. 80% of NATO countries issue Glocks as their service pistol (and that figure is higher for special forces), as well as other notables such as Switzerland. Do you really think that these procurement officers just haven't heard of the M&P or VP9, and so they just magically settled on the Glock? Do you sincerely think you're smarter than the field? + +It's fine if you prefer the PDP or M&P or P320 or P10 or whatever flavor of sidearm to the Glock because they're all good guns, but acting like you're so enlightened because you went with choice 1B instead of 1A is fucking retarded. +--- 57885714 +>>57885168 +> I've never even noticed how the trigger pull feels +Post guns +>>57885190 +Samefag + +>>57885452 +Glocks are 500-600 dollars for 350-400 dollar quality gun. +--- 57885804 +>>57885714 +Don't shop at (((their))) gunstores. If your gunstore won't haggle or throw in 'gibs' onto your gun sale then usually it's not a place I want to shop at. Two extra magazines and two boxes of decent ammo usually bring the price up to near where it should be. Or literally don't buy new. I hate this fucking meme of 'X cheap thing is marked up unreasonably' then just buy it used. I don't buy new vehicles for the very same reason. They instantly lose 30% of their value minimum once they're off the lot. + +>>57885634 +True and heterosexual poster. Night sights are the GOAT and after getting some on my Glock 29 I'd want them on anything I was using seriously. All stock pistol sights suck ballz save for some revolvers. +--- 57885890 +>>57885804 +>I hate this fucking meme of 'X cheap thing is marked up unreasonably' then just buy it used +If it’s a 400 dollar quality gun and I buy it used then I ought to be able to buy it even cheaper. It’s not about how much money people are willing to spend it’s about the value they’re getting for that money. I genuinely don’t understand all the Glock cope. Just admit they’re overpriced because of brand recognition compared to every other major manufacturers semi-autos in the same quality range. +--- 57886002 +>>57885634 +The sights were just an example. My M9A3 has stock night sights. Sure the other guns have cons to them, but in stock configuration they go beyond Glocks. Whereas the stock M&P does not need replacing of sights compared to glocks. Whereas the stock PDP does not need replacing of trigger etc. They got issues of their own too but I never denied that. I am saying they innovate or offer more than bog standard glocks ever could. All guns are "good", but some are better at being good than others. + +When it comes to procurement, do you think these organizations are acquiring Glocks because of how high performing the gun is? Or is it because it's cheap, common, easy to repair or replace parts, easy to use by virtue of simplicity, etc. Is it a truly good gun or is it merely good enough? It's just mid to me +--- 57886042 +>>57885890 +>overpriced because of brand recognition +Potentially. Especially for le 9mm. +>value they're getting for that money. +It does everything it's purported to do. If you buy a glock expecting a geissle then the only retarded one here is you. +>Cope +I'm good at that. I only buy 10mm glonks. As per Budz you can see that unless you want an autism awareness looking ass gun glock is your only option. +--- 57886636 +>>57885634 +Ye Olde Glocksucker Coping Mechanism - just fix all the problems by buying a kit to replace every single substandard part in the gun (all of them). + +Trigger worse than a $250 Shield? +Buy a cope kit. + +Factory sights made of Lego? +Buy a cope kit. + +Slide release flat against the release completely flat against the frame and made out of an old Bud Light can? +Buy a cope kit. +--- 57886641 +>>57886002 +>”they go beyond Glocks” +You keep saying that as if it’s somehow true, but the militaries and special forces groups of the free world disagree. Maybe you should inform the procurement officers. + +>Glocks are only issued because they’re cheap! + +Cope. These are NATO militaries with billion-dollar budgets, not BFE police departments. These guys buy four million dollar IFVs by the dozens, and five hundred thousand dollar Raytheon missiles by the hundreds. They don’t give a shit if a sidearm with a decades-long lifespan costs $250 or $500 per unit, because it’s a drop in the proverbial bucket. + +The Swiss issue the most expensive infantry rifle on earth, the SG550/552/553, because small arms cost isn’t an issue to them. What sidearm do they use? Glock 17 and 19. + +>”just mid to me” +You talk like a zoomer, so I’m not really surprised that you’re a faggot pseud. It’s awfully transparent. +--- 57886690 +>>57869683 +did they literally take the sights off +--- 57886779 +>>57864164 +Glock mags are made of stainless steel retard +--- 57887223 +>>57886779 +metal encased in polymer you fucking mouthbreather +--- 57887243 +>>57886690 +don't need 'em +--- 57887614 +>>57885185 +>Delta uses 1911s. +Someone get this nigger out of his 1990s timewarp +--- 57887653 +>>57886636 +This sounds more like projection than anything. Sorry you feel the need to turn your combat pistol into a hypebeast Instagram gun. +--- 57887768 +>>57885804 +>Don't shop at (((their))) gunstores. If your gunstore won't haggle or throw in 'gibs' +Talk about the hebe calling the jew a kike. +--- 57887800 +>>57887653 +>combat pistol +this poster is 100% overweight +--- 57887876 +>>57887768 +You might not remember it anon, but a long ass fucking time ago in a place called USA people would trade fur pelts and shit for guns and ammo. Anyplace that can't haggle on price or come down is usually highly incorporated or ran by tards. In either case your money would probably be better served going to a local place that aren't retarded boomers on their prices. + +The entire basis of 'commerce' is giving something of value for something else of value. If you don't feel like you're getting enough out of what a seller is selling then you either attempt to haggle or find it elsewhere. Because after all, something's only worth as much as you're willing to spend on it. So either don't bitch about the price (and thus cope about Glocks and how you bought a cheaper glock clone and have to cope and seethe) or attempt to find someplace to get it 'cheaper' that throws in extra so it's worth the 600$. I've gotten T-shirts, extra mags, boxes of ammo, novelty patches, and all sorts of shit doing this at gunstores. The main point is I'm not a lowballing boomer tard and know that the gunstore wants to make a certain percentage of upcharge to make it worthwhile to sell. + +If being financially not retarded makes me a kike then I understand why the white race is in decline now after being psyoped to act like nogs. +--- 57888193 +>>57887653 +>combat pistol +everything but the glock and the shield then. +--- 57888204 +>>57886690 +Not like they use them. +--- 57888396 +>>57887223 +Yes, stainless steel mags +--- 57888555 +>>57861708 (OP) +OH MY GOD HOW DARE BIG SIG FALSIFY A MASSIVE DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN AGAINST GLOCK. +Oh wait.. +--- 57888749 +>>57886690 +You didn't watch the video anon? He upgraded the factory sights because bucket sights suck dick +--- 57888881 +>>57883926 +>this is your brain on /pol/ +--- 57888914 +>>57887614 +What I find weirder is a couple sources from the late 90's-early GWOT days claiming CAG and 6 were apparently using .40 G22's for a while. +--- 57889737 +>>57887653 +>all mechanical upgrades +>b-b-but muh instagram social media +--- 57889847 +how dare that son of a bitch wear flecktarn, the sexiest camo in the world +--- 57889887 +>>57887876 +Ok boomer +--- 57890132 +>>57886641 +>procurement +I dont care for the opinions of organizations with bureaucratic inertia. If you're going to appeal to authority, look at elite comp shooters and what they use. You won't see them sell themselves short with their choice of gun. + +>cope +Two words. Lowest bidder. The gun is not the only expense, there's logistics, long term deals regarding the supply of parts, training of armorers, training of users, etc. For individuals this doesn't matter to them. + +You're not even a pseud, you're just retarded since you only jump on bandwagons instead of evaluating something on its own merit. It's awfully transparent. You are your own punishment +--- 57890338 +>>57890132 +Again, militaries that spare no expense when it comes to small arms, like Switzerland, still use Glocks. You can try to lie to yourself about it, but it doesn't make it less true. + +>elite shooters in competition +Elite shooters use fucking everything, and mostly it comes down to who sponsors them. Nils uses a Canik, Stoeger uses a Glock, Grauffel uses a CZ and used to use a Tanfo, JJ uses a Beretta and used to use a Limcat, Michel uses a 320. Do you really think Beretta dominates in comp matches? The CO field is like 40% P320 X-Five Legions, 20% CZs, and 15% 34s. + +Are you somehow under the false impression people don't use Glocks in comp? What's your USPSA membership number? +--- 57890580 +If only there were a process by where people took things that sucked, made them better, then you paid them money for this new and improved product that better meets your needs. Oh well. + +Glock triggers are legit trash. Apex are Chad tier. +--- 57890629 +>>57888396 +They coat them in plastic to hide the fact that they used the cheapest unfinished steel possible. Squeeze a Glock mag with your fingers, it bends. Squeeze an actual steel mag, no bend. These thick ass chunk of shit mags they use are the reason their handles are so fat and they can't make a gun that competes with the Sig P365 which dropped 5 years ago. They're not even caught up to the level of the Shield which was popular 10 years ago. Their options always have 1-2 less rounds for the same size. +--- 57890636 +>>57864182 +Glocke would be. Glock ist just a surname. +--- 57890647 +>>57885714 +*$250 quality gun. + +These things come with Mattel plastic sights with the most retarded sight picture ever. Ball in the cup would be fine but it's put the ball in the cup and then keep putting it lower into the cup until you only see about 68% of it. +--- 57890666 +>>57885228 +Delta are a bunch of retards who joined Delta. They're getting Army pay to get tortured at their job and might get sent off to their death in some African shithole to secure economic interests for some corporation. These are the stupidest people ever, so are SWAT operators. Oh wow you get a 2.5% shift differential to have to make 4 extra trainings per month, then get called out to sit on a 36 hour standoff and you can't leave until it's over? It's the literal most retarded thing to rank up to these units when the pay is still shit yet your duties are 10x more. +--- 57890697 +>>57885514 +How does it hate suppressors? I run that super heavy B&T impulse 2 on my 19 without any issues. Your booster sucks ass bro. This isn’t a fixed barrel beretta. diff --git a/k/57861832.txt b/k/57861832.txt index b27c8db9a9ca03fd68a0d0ad198deea969a9e09a..078f2e0490d9f60a2ce8b3696a036690aa1bafe0 100644 --- a/k/57861832.txt +++ b/k/57861832.txt @@ -180,3 +180,225 @@ Post more tactical bullpups. I think its neat how crowded everything looks compa --- 57879031 >>57873778 What, so the wrap is for heat, but above the wrap you reach in to fiddle with gas? +--- 57880065 +>>57878981 +>that camo and gun +Neither are used anymore +--- 57880978 +Didn't see there was a bpg up so stuck it in brg instead, but NF finally got levers back in stock. Tiny little thing but makes a pleasant difference in usage and resolves my major irritation which the optic. Now if only blacklabel would make a wrap mantis. +--- 57881138 +>>57880978 +I can't work out what those two wing things are near the front +--- 57881186 +>>57881138 +Side foregrips. Originally got them because this was kind of a silly build where I wanted to try lots of different stuff with a different gun, turns out it actually is surprisingly decent and works very well with the somewhat elastic sling, so have opted to keep it and toss an an extraneous wml underneath. yt if you want to see it in use a little better: +>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnD4KumkQ8o [Embed] +And then my ocd autism compelled me to stick on one the other side for symmetry and when I want to use it offhand. + +It's weird and isn't perfect but it's been a fun change. Somewhat different muscle use. +--- 57881223 +>>57880065 +that looks like an uncomfortable way to carry a LAW +--- 57881286 +>>57881186 +Interesting video, thanks for linking. Never seen a grip like that before but nice to see cool accessories +--- 57881333 +Aug is one of the few guns that looks better another color instead of black (green) + +What do we think about the tuna gun? Do you guys think it looks better black or green? +--- 57881346 +>>57881286 +Yeah if nothing else fun to see people take something basic that everyone takes for granted and consider another angle for it. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't, or only for specific circumstances/people, but nice to see the effort. I mean, could say the same thing about the gun, number of flaws but plenty of awesome bits too, so seems kinda fitting in retrospect. +--- 57881952 +>>57874318 +you just have the normal twist not one of those rare ones? then yeah >>57875984 and just try stuff out +--- 57882467 +No guns here, what is the purpose of the square thing on top of a famas? I always liked the look of a famas because of that but i never found out what its for. +--- 57882520 +>>57882467 +Do you mean this? It's a rifle grenade sight. +--- 57882532 +>>57882520 +Forgot pic +--- 57882588 +>>57871402 +>yet it seems like every successive iteration to the Tavor makes it uglier and less wieldy + +Tell me you've never touched any tavor without telling me you've- you get the idea + +The X95 having a straight handguard and squaring off the cutlass trigger guard (or even just using the alternative pistol grip trigger guard) makes the rifle significantly easier to shoot from the prone and off barricades. It also just feels smaller overall, particularly at the handguard, and the bolt catch not protruding from the butt so much when locked open means you're less likely to accidentally hit it with your kit and drop the bolt. The pistol grip is swept back less and is more comfortable, there's tons of rail mounting options, none of which interfere with the repositioned charging handle, etc etc etc + +The TAR21 has A E S T H E T I C, it's undeniable, but in terms of handling the X95 is way better. +--- 57882616 +>>57882532 +Grenade launcher sight. It flips out the the side and you turn the rifle sideways. +--- 57882649 +>>57880065 +We cant get the updated australian version in the states. Hoping steyr will give us the new austrian model but its doubtful. +Whats up with the rocket? That cant be the best way to haul it around. +--- 57882706 +If I could only get one, should it be an AUG or Hellion/VHS? +--- 57882759 +>>57882588 +I would argue that the SAR is better for 2 reasons alone. + +1: The mag release is a lever as opposed to an AR button. +2: Integrated handguard button for lights +3: Cutlass grip feels nicer on the SAR due to it being a little larger + +Rails are nice and I appreciate the X95 but aside from the rails, the bolt being in the middle of the gun, the shorter silhouette in the rear, and somewhat better trigger. + +If the X95 had both the button and lever release I'd take X95 over SAR but reloading with the lever is so much nicer and intuitive. Realistically, I don't need an entire quad rail, the single canted 45 rail is perfect for light lasers, the top rail is generous, and the trigger update isn't good enough to stop me dropping a geiss trigger in it anyway. + +Bolt being in the center is a nice update but not critical in the overall function and code of arms for the gun. +Overall tavor is goated, you can't go wrong with either one. There's pros and cons to both. For me the SAR is the move +--- 57883369 +>>57882520 +>>57882532 +no, i mean this thing. I did another search and apparently its to attach accessories but i dont understand why the famas need it and other weapons like >>57878981 dont need it +--- 57883424 +>eyyy yoo has there been testing on the Ayy You Gee? +My maxima pigmented friends, the Austrian army has their AUGs in continuous use since the 70ies. Your "24/7 saline-blizzard mudwater sprinkle freak accident"-reliability tests are all irrelevant desu +--- 57883590 +>>57883369 +Idk if trolling but the sight posts are up there, if it had a picatinny rail it would not need iron sights +--- 57883767 +>>57883590 +I'm not trolling, i just have zero knowledge about firearms +--- 57883828 +>>57883767 +It's a carry handle with iron sights on it that also protects the charging handle. +--- 57883840 +>>57883767 +>>57883828 +*also the AUG A1 optical sight is a carry handle too. +--- 57884212 +>>57861832 (OP) +Is the kikevor 7 my only option for a AR-10 magazine fed semi automatic bullpup? +--- 57884268 +>>57871402 +what is the ball for? +--- 57884461 +>>57884268 +It's a jewish thing, you wouldn't understand +--- 57884656 +>>57884212 +No, MDR is another option. They both have their pluses and minuses. But as far as mags same SR25. +--- 57884701 +>>57884268 +Circumcision joke +CAPTCHA: TAVRX +--- 57884781 +>>57884212 +>>57884656 +K&M M17 is an option too +--- 57884812 +>>57879031 +the gas block is under the handguard. you need a screwdriver to reach it. +it's basically right above the front pivot pin, i would guess roughly carbine length. +--- 57884839 +forward eject master rayce +--- 57884894 +>>57881333 +green without a doubt. but I think all guns look better in tan or green. +--- 57884937 +>>57884839 +Based forward eject enjoyer +--- 57884976 +>>57884839 +>>57884937 +Gang +--- 57885133 +Form 1 submitted today on the PS90. Going 3 lug once the stamp clears for that sexy HK flashider when not wearing a suppressor. +--- 57885155 +>>57884839 +>>57884937 +very based +>>57884976 +Fellow mantis enjoyer. +--- 57885313 +>>57882759 +>Bolt being in the center is a nice update but not critical in the overall function and code of arms for the gun. + +Is that your gun? Because I don't see a light, and if you want to add one, that's where you're going to run into issues. DO you use a tail cap light? It's going on the right side of the gun where you can't access it quickly to turn it on or off. Do you use a pressure pad? How do you manage the cable? Do you run it under the handguard where it could get snagged by your hand or a barricade? Or over the top, where it might interfere with the charging handle? + +The charging handle position of the SAR give you great leverage if your gun is naked, but otherwise really causes problems. That built-in button spot in the grip is cool- if you can find a pressure switch for it. Good luck! + +I can respect preferring the mag release lever, it is really intuitive. The X95's cutlass isn't as nice for the offhand shooting, but it still does mostly the same thing whaile making other things easier, I just think it's a good tradeoff. +--- 57885345 +>>57885313 +god i want a 18.5 inch barrel so bad for mine +--- 57885419 +>>57885345 +pig fat 18.5" reporting +--- 57886302 +>>57885313 +nta but thanks for the thoughtful rundown. +--- 57886678 +Crazy guns made in Florida for the state of "you ain't gonna believe this shit." oh and an obligatory CZ +--- 57888075 +>>57862919 +why does this meme keep appearing on /k/ +--- 57888150 +>>57883369 +It protects the charging handle (the little hook thing), provides a convenient horizontal surface for the iron sights, and is handy for picking the gun up off the ground when shooting from the bipod. I.e., basically the same functions as the similar feature on the M16, although the M16's charging handle was moved elsewhere very early in development. +--- 57888308 +>>57882649 +>Hoping steyr will give us the new austrian model +Why? It looks mostly identical to the A3M1, but with a new base for the integral optic that appears to feature a QD socket and side rail (disgusting) and a combo rail/VFG that 1. will cut the shit out of your hands if you shoot it without rail covers, which are thankfully issued with it, and 2. has a shelf and cable management notch molded in so you can attach a special tape switch for an MFAL you can't buy in America. It even still has the dumb little ski slope integral QD socket at the front of the receiver that makes it needlessly difficult to design an extendo rail for it. +--- 57888327 +>>57882706 +The VHS is probably the most reasonable bullpup on the market right now, but you'll probably like the AUG more, in spite of its relatively dated design. +--- 57888375 +I'm finally getting around to working on my ps90. I shoot it a decent amount but have been really lazy about putting the work into getting what I need for it. Form 1 soon and I've been sitting on a rmr mount for like a year and I'm not even sure I'm going to use it yet or order a ring sight. +--- 57888384 +>>57884268 +Making the charging handle easy to grab without making it easy for your kit to grab it for you. Blue Force Gear's GMT sling (which is brilliant, btw—much better than the VCAS) has a similar feature on its adjustment slider, for the same reason. +--- 57888493 +>>57881333 +For such a universally ignored rifle you'd think the price would come down eh? + +I should have got one when the prices werent insane. +--- 57888613 +>>57888493 +>For such a universally ignored rifle you'd think the price would come down eh? +It's not made anymore though, and while its shooting qualities are debatable to put it nicely it's definitely cool and iconic looking. Once it went off market collectors and folks who were always sorta-someday-i-should-get-that-gun types suddenly felt like they had to get their shit together and it was off to the races. It's probably never coming down again unless there was more production. +--- 57888797 +>>57888613 +>coming soon: the FN FS2025, a sideways SCAR action inside a mostly FS2k-shaped chassis +--- 57889091 +takin a bullPOOP rn lmao get it like bullpup but the pup is replaced with poop because I’m going poop with a bullpup haha get it +--- 57889119 +>>57888797 +If they made some serious improvements it could have a second life. But hard to say, also sometimes once something stops getting manufactured it's actually pretty hard to start things back up again, institutional knowledge can decay pretty fast. + +Not a bullpup but in a completely different context I know that feel. I got a maxim 9 just a few years ago and at the time nobody was interested at all, the ones that were out there were just sitting around at dealers and prices kept getting cut to try to get them moved, got mine for like $980 and other anons got them $800-900. And I fucking love it, awesome pistol, and now really wish I'd gotten two or three because they seem to have stopped making them and suddenly anything to be found is like $2500+. Depressing. +--- 57889354 +>>57885345 +Canadians with a rare win +--- 57889491 +>>57889354 +Do they not sell the 18.5" version here? Anyway, the 16" version is fine; nobody at the range is going to lick boot hard enough to report you to the ATF for having the thin buttpad installed, assuming they even know about the X95's special OAL needs. +--- 57889574 +short boi reporting +--- 57890031 +>>57881333 +green and checked +--- 57890118 +>>57889574 +Are those Earmors lmao? +--- 57890166 +>>57889574 +lol that's awesome, micron and then you wrapped the can in the shorter aluminum handguard? based +--- 57890584 +>>57889574 +dafuq is goin on with that 2 inch suppressor? +--- 57891039 +>>57890584 +early HUXWRX (née OSS) cans came in two segments for reasons that I'm sure made sense at the time +--- 57891040 +>>57890584 +kinda curious too that doesn't look like one of those chub ones, too narrow, or is there something new? +--- 57891063 +>>57891039 +huh, never knew that. I assume it kills the effectiveness but sure looks wild. diff --git a/k/57862803.txt b/k/57862803.txt index 9045061a1c1187b6d418db76023c44e32f7de3f5..4717cd70444acc594c5092c990f1ee5511edf973 100644 --- a/k/57862803.txt +++ b/k/57862803.txt @@ -364,3 +364,92 @@ Beautiful skins, what did you do with them? --- 57879483 >>57878100 Springfield/Stevens 87A? How is it? How is the bolt lock feature? +--- 57881176 +What are some good places/sites to get CCI standard? Most places I go to only have 50 ct boxes of minimags and other shit like that +--- 57881241 +>>57881176 +Walmart? Or https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfire/cci/standard_velocity/6-35.html +--- 57881358 +>>57878322 +That is not my photo, but its a nice photo of the gun. I like preserving the fur from whatever I shoot and making things out of it. I have made liners for things, toys for my dog, covers, and sometimes I just leave it as a pelt if it is particularly nice. +>>57879483 +Mine is a savage 6a. I really like the bolt features. I can choose to shoot whatever 22 I want. I can lock the bolt and shoot a subsonic round for sneaky plinking or I can set it to semiauto for funs. +It also eats everything that I feed it. It even cycles 22 shorts on semiauto if the velocity is high enough. I am a big fan and advocate of the click clack rifle. +--- 57882108 +>>57870237 +I was urbanite when I made that +>>57874891 +Damn, I like the soul of the duct tape but that actually looks kinda nice +--- 57882341 +>>57872338 +I have a ruger all-weather .17 that I got used from Cabelas. Think they are discontinued now, but the gun is awesome. However I agree with the other anon, fuck Cabelas. +--- 57883702 +>>57882341 +It's just called an "all weather"? +Post a photo, please. +--- 57883745 +buy or pass? +--- 57883842 +What's the ideal barrel length for hunting small game with .22? I'll be taking shots roughly 100-200 yards at most, anything past that might be a bit much for .22 +--- 57884401 +>>57871430 +>>57871551 +The loading port is on the top of the wrist of the stock, instead of the right side like the later SA-22 models, Winchester 63/74, etc. +--- 57884473 +>>57883745 +Pass. Find a nice old Colt or S&W .22 revolver with fine blueing. Maybe even a H&R 999 or a Ruger if you want to spend less. Spend money on quality firearms that are built well and will retain value, not cheap shit. At least that's my thought process. +--- 57884535 +nogunz eurofag here, but when I was a wee lad in the cadet corps, we would shoot these .22lr conversions of Lee Enfields (No. 8) on 25 yrd indoor ranges. AFAIK they were all converted in the early 50s. Absolutely beautiful to shoot, recoil almost nonexistant, incredibly easy to maintain and clean that even an idiot teenager could do it. Spent 4 years on the unit shooting team before I aged out, with shoots twice a week. +Then the bong government decided to replace them all with an extremely cucked version of the L85, and you know what they did? They had most of No. 8s destroyed. All that history gone, such a waste. Now all kids have to look forward to here is firing a version of the L85 (I had the displeasuring of testing one when we went to Rheindahlen in DE and out of 10 rounds I had 2 jams and a misfire) where you have to cycle the fucking bolt every shot, and the remaining No. 8s cost twice as much as a No. 4 in .303 so I will probably never get to own one. +--- 57886719 +I've been saving up for a little bit, should I get a henry classic? What scopes would be compatible with it? +--- 57887996 +>>57884535 +My condolences. Get a 10/22 and dress it up as M1 carbine and practice your best American accent at the range. +--- 57888595 +So, I (not a /k/ommando, never owned a gun before, no gun culture in my family) found my late grandfather's Winchester .30-30 carbine, which he kept for home defense. It must be at least 70 years old and it's in somewhat rough condition, with some rust and chipping. The action works, as well as the firing mechanism. +I'm not attached to it and wouldn't say it's a heirloom, so I think I'll probably sell it. +Thoughts? +--- 57888607 +>>57888595 +Sorry for potatocam, btw. +--- 57888623 +*plink* +--- 57888628 +>>57888595 +Sell it. It's only a toy and dead guy artifacts are not the person. +--- 57888696 +>>57888595 +>Winchester .30-30 carbine +>posts a Marlin 1894 +And if you sell your grandpa's gun that he was shooting for 70 years then you are an enormous faggot who doesn't deserve to own guns. +--- 57888799 +>>57888696 +As I said, I am a nogunz faglord, so thanks for the ID, anon. I just thought I might show it to someone who knows their shit for some feedback. +I have no idea whether he actually shot the thing, for sport or otherwise. He was a chemist, I don't believe he was sent to the front in WWII. +--- 57888999 +>>57883745 +Fun little gun to shoot that you can treat like shit because they're stupid cheap. +>>57884473 +Some times the cheap shit is best shit. +--- 57889043 +>>57888999 +>Double trips +>Sometimes the cheap shit is best +Cheap shit confirmed best. +--- 57889777 +>>57884535 +I remember watching that happen as a Yank and being fucking PISSED that they weren't even being surplussed at all. Seriously, I might have understood maybe either not exporting them or not letting them being surplussed to the local market but just destroying something like that was fucking retarded. I would've loved one. +--- 57889856 +>>57884473 +Not that anon, but how well does the lockwork on H&R top breaks hold up? I've heard claims that they're on the weak side. +--- 57889865 +>>57888623 +Cute. +--- 57889927 +>>57889856 +>how well does the lockwork on H&R top breaks hold up +Perfectly, imo. +--- 57890135 +>>57889927 +How many rounds do you have through it? I'm interested in getting a .22 revolver and would probably end up putting 200 rounds through whatever I get on a monthly basis. diff --git a/k/57864436.txt b/k/57864436.txt index 2aeb353f710d802e897f35e64b9b3859ddeb6bd1..f1b59cc18d541c373f768a05095c5ee1b627959f 100644 --- a/k/57864436.txt +++ b/k/57864436.txt @@ -146,3 +146,99 @@ new thing? frog shirts are like 15 years old. --- 57879651 >>57874701 Are these DaftPunk ? +--- 57879780 +>>57864436 (OP) +Sleep tight OP. +>>57870305 +>>57867141 +Good contributions. +--- 57879843 +>>57864673 +how does he shoot the gun if its upside down +--- 57879867 +>>57866992 +seems like opfor always get to rock the nice movie/video game goon impractical camos, here's some french ones +--- 57880908 +Aesthetics peaked from 1250-1400. +--- 57880919 +>their aesthetics lacks magical amulets and relics +--- 57880940 +>>57874701 +>you guys are idiots, the terrorists are LOOKING for guys dressed as soldiers +--- 57881717 +>>57866934 +West bros... +--- 57882050 +>>57868352 +I need a gear list and more money for an sp5 +--- 57882075 +>>57867568 +damn, it reminds me (g)old times +--- 57882585 +>>57868245 +Unfiltered kino +--- 57882679 +Fallujah '04 +--- 57882873 +>>57875889 +huh +--- 57883352 +>>57866949 +--- 57883441 +Sexiest tank in NATO (although probably second worst) +--- 57883868 +anp m51/53 and famas + bayonnet make my pp hard +--- 57883944 +>>57866949 +frogbros...everything gucci +--- 57884061 +>>57879867 +Clear Sky in real? +--- 57885134 +>>57874701 +Anti thot conditioning training? +--- 57886650 +>>57869703 +Call it +--- 57887298 +>>57883944 +holy kino +--- 57887402 +>>57866934 +das rite + +and that's the SMALLEST codpiece his military stocks +--- 57887624 +>>57867007 +Comfy +--- 57887650 +>>57867940 +Russkie fighting fire elementals +--- 57887793 +>>57876000 +>Kane lives in death +>Kane lives in death +>Kane lives in death +>KANE LIVES + +kino +--- 57889137 +>>57882445 +Look like a low t sissy tranny +--- 57889360 +>>57879042 +It would be extremely painful +--- 57890613 +>>57864436 (OP) +--- 57891104 +>>57874701 +>you just know +--- 57891220 +>>57877794 +I wonder how many Russians she castrated? +--- 57891241 +>>57887417 +They feel like a bunch of airsofters. +--- 57891257 +>*BAMBAMBAM* +>OPEN UP MOTHERFUCKER, IT'S THE TAX INSPECTOR!! diff --git a/k/57864918.txt b/k/57864918.txt index 9cea8bff475b3458f9da1534a9c88fb1be9fac24..c024c2ae975fc30bbdd2e369e6074a88f96662e8 100644 --- a/k/57864918.txt +++ b/k/57864918.txt @@ -427,3 +427,348 @@ I mean just from statistical safety and stuff, you are overwhelmingly increasing >>57878046 >or paranoid pussy. funny from a guy too afraid of his house being burgled to ever be seen with a firearm +--- 57880275 +>>57876276 +>HEY LOOK AT THIS STRAWMAN THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IRL +--- 57880514 +>>57878234 +>appeal to hypocrisy fallacy +Has nothing to do with fear just statistical likelihood. If your goal is self-protection you’re doing it poorly. + +And again people with attention-seeking histrionic personality disorders and aren’t capable of rational critical thinking are the types of people that shouldn’t be trusted with firearms at all. Much less walking around Home Depot for some reason. Like you’re likely mentally ill. Why would anyone want to see you walking around suburbia with weapons? +--- 57881721 +>>57866369 +That would be more romantic desu +--- 57881763 +>>57864918 (OP) +Post like yours are a reminders that restricted fags are worse than anti-gun fags +--- 57881802 +>>57877658 +Every anti-open-carry argument sounds like a hysterical woman: + +"You're gonna get shot! +"People who hate guns will hate guns extra hard!" + +Cops open carry exclusively. Please explain to us why they aren't getting constantly mowed down by these "wild gunman" you speak of? +--- 57881824 +>>57880514 +>you're doing it for attention! +Literally the most generic anti-gun argument used for everything, do better. +--- 57881947 +>>57864918 (OP) +--- 57882052 +>>57871993 +>[x] brings bad attention + +anti-gun faggots all read from the same pamphlet. +--- 57882090 +>>57864918 (OP) +no. People who do that are just as bad as fags who dress up for attention. +--- 57882137 +>>57864918 (OP) +If we had open carry I'd have a springfield or some kind of wooden rifle just as a fashion accessory +--- 57882157 +>>57882090 +Another one +--- 57882166 +>>57882157 +an NPC wouldn't say anything that would offend the "Homosexual community". I don't give a shit about fags. + +If you open carry a rifle, you're not doing it for protection. you're doing it for attention. Just like fags who dress all gay. Because they want attention +--- 57882193 +>>57882166 +You literally took an anti-AR15 argument and applied it to open carry. You're mentally just Citrl+v. + +Now go make a small penis reference to complete the package. +--- 57882228 +If you're openly carrying for attention you're being a faggot. If you're openly carrying because it's necessary or you have a reason to be doing so, it's Based. If you're abusing a loophole that allows for openly carrying when it's necessary to draw attention you're being a gigafaggot. It's that simple. +--- 57882230 +>>57882193 +>OP posts picture of 2 men with slung AR15s at a food establishment. Utilizing open carry rights +>Post says nothing specific about AR-15s. Just references carrying a rifle in public +>"You literally took an anti-AR15 argument and applied it to open carry" +imagine being this retarded +--- 57882244 +>>57882193 +pp small because gun big haha gotem +--- 57882255 +>>57882228 +>If you're openly carrying because it's necessary or you have a reason to be doing so, it's Based. If you're abusing a loophole that allows for openly carrying when it's necessary to draw attention you're being a gigafaggot. It's that simple. +there are very few instances where people open carry for a real reason beyond "muh right". Most do it because it is apart of their outfit. I used to be friends with someone who would always open carry. Even to go through the drive through at Chick-fil-A in a very very safe and wealthy area where no crime happens. +--- 57882265 +>>57882166 +As opposed to "conceal carry" a rifle. +--- 57882286 +>>57882265 +if you aren't cc'ing a 16 inch rifle during the winter under your coat you are not prepared for when the thing comes to get you +--- 57882290 +>>57882265 +>he wasn't here when the anon got pulled over by police and he was CC an Obrez +--- 57882304 +>>57882230 +"you just want attention" is what anti "black gun" faggots say all the time, you absolute dunce. + +Next time you see a rifle slung in the open take one of these and you'll feel better. +--- 57882320 +>>57882290 +Obrez isn't a rifle, it's an absolutely based pistol that NFA inaccurately calls an SBR. + +Hope he got it back. +--- 57882321 +>>57882304 +>"you just want attention" is what anti "black gun" faggots say all the time, you absolute dunce. +ah right. You're a fag. I understand now. +--- 57882322 +>>57866812 +Send pics pussy +--- 57882336 +>>57882320 +he never lost it. It was in a shoulder holster under his winter jacket. which he displayed to the police +--- 57882339 +>>57877539 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_crocodile?wprov=sfla1 +--- 57882351 +>>57882286 +I wish Florida had winters or I would do this. +--- 57882363 +>>57882321 +You get emotional when you see a slung rifle. There's absolutely nothing you can say. + +>>57882336 +nice +--- 57882377 +can someone explain to me why they have their slings over the left shoulder? Are they both left handed? +--- 57882410 +>>57882377 +no. they just slung it like that because they are fuds. they don't actually know what they are doing +--- 57882447 +>>57864918 (OP) +I only open carry on my wrench and even then it's a pistol. Would never haul my rifle everywhere unless I'm out plinking or hunting with it. +--- 57882454 +>>57882447 +*ranch, no fucking clue why i said wrench, jfc i need coffee....and fish oil +--- 57882464 +>>57882255 +I live somewhere you can open carry handguns or long guns and I rarely if ever see people doing it unless they're in a really shitty part of town, are coming back from the range or hunting/fishing, or are worth assloads of money and probably do need to have a gun on them easily and quickly accessible even in the nicer parts of town. It's just dumb to do it unless it's necessary since it draws attention and tends to make a lot of people nervous, but it's entirely legal and people do do it. I've only open carried when hunting or fishing since innawoods without a gun is a bad idea for a variety of reasons but the only time I've openly carried in public is if I've got a lot of money on me; I do see a lot of people with a pistol in a holster when I'm at the coin shop buying gold or silver but that makes sense and nobody bats an eye. +--- 57882466 +>>57882447 +>>57882454 +thats not even really "open carry". you're on your private property +--- 57882495 +>>57882447 +>only for hunting +--- 57882508 +>>57882464 +>I never see open carry unless I see open carry + +Doesn't matter, anti-open carry fags still support shit laws that will put them all in jail. +--- 57882519 +>>57882508 +nta i don't think it should be illegal to open carry. But that doesn't means i don't think people who do it are attention seeking retards +--- 57882521 +>>57882466 +That's still considered "brandishing" in some places, unfortunately. +--- 57882529 +>>57864918 (OP) +I don't drink liquid jew, no. +--- 57882531 +>>57882521 +on your own private land? +--- 57882565 +>>57882531 +yes even inside your home, if someone sees you through the window its brandishing +--- 57882586 +>>57882565 +This is why I moved out of NY. It's filled with retards who say shit like "you carry guns for attention". +--- 57882603 +>>57882508 +I ultimately agree with you, I'm just old enough to know being a tryhard autist about the topic is how you end up getting pulled over every single time you leave the house until you inevitably lose your shit and do something illegal and get buried by the local PD under the bottom of the jail, or shot if you go full retard. Don't vote for politicians that would enact laws that you don't like, don't be an autist with a gun in public, and if you do openly carry have a reason for doing it and don't be a fuckin' asshole. Have some understanding of nuance and appropriate behavior instead of being a pissed off teenager trapped in the body of a mid-20-something douche canoe and you can carry a gun on your hip without a problem. +>>57882519 +Correct. It should be entirely legal to openly carry a long gun or handgun. People doing so without a valid reason or in certain environments even with a valid reason should prepare to be stopped and questioned about it at a minimum and be able to handle themselves accordingly. I had a cop ask me why I was openly carrying when I stopped at a mcdonalds on the way back home from the coin shop, told him I was carrying a Tanfoglio 10mm and it's a bit too big to CC without printing, and then showed him one of the 1oz gold coins I'd purchased. He just said "nice" and I got my food and that was the end of it. + +If you're gonna open carry be prepared to get tard checked, and if you act like a tard be prepared to be treated like one. +--- 57882674 +>>57882519 +It shouldn't matter whatsoever. +--- 57882733 +>>57881824 +>anti-gun argument +NTA but its not anti gun he spelled it out for you. You are not "protecting" our rights you are attention seeking at best at worst trying to force a police response. Try to picture replacing the gun with a Katana or a bunch of mall cop gear, that is how you look the only difference is mall cops are trying to look cool not shield their attention seeking from criticism using the guise of protecting our rights as gun owners. +Literally no different than shoving a Camera in someone's face because "this is a public space". +--- 57882785 +>>57882603 +Those autists are a fringe eliminate that barely exist, solely mentioned to push laws that fuck everyone else via "common sense" arguments. But even if someone wants to carry for the sake of carrying, so what? What actually happens that's measurably negative about it? +--- 57882794 +>>57866812 +>Infanteriegewehr Modell 96/11 +based + +How is your shoulder? +--- 57882799 +Friendly reminder that open carrying a rifle in the real world will most likely cause you to end up like pic related. Anyone who actually wanted to carry a rifle for anything other than causing a scene would use a shoulder bag of some sort to be more discreet. +--- 57882845 +>>57882733 +If I see someone with a katana, I think that's a pretty stupid fucking option to stop a mass shooter. If someone gets upset when they see legally owned guns, I WANT them to leave, just like I want them to leave /k/. + +They can move to some blue shit-hole utopia. +--- 57882888 +>>57866812 +I had one with a serial-matched bayonet and muzzle cover. I was forced to surrender it when NYC dis-acknowledged Curios & Relics 20 years ago and didn't give me any time to apply for a rifle permit to keep it. + +>inb4 pre-1898 +They don't care and the legal defence would have cost more than the rifle. +--- 57882894 +>>57882785 +>But even if someone wants to carry for the sake of carrying, so what? What actually happens that's measurably negative about it? +The cops get a bunch of phone calls about it and have to show up and at minimum talk to you so all the butthurt people that called it in can chill the fuck out after the cops go talk to them, wasting police resources and time and potentially causing a conflict either before, during, or after when they showed up. It puts the PD in a shit situation where they have to both stop someone that's just exercising their rights, which upsets that person, and then upsets whoever called it in when they go explain why they can't do shit about it and why it's entirely legal and not a problem. Don't make the cops look bad and don't open carry around or in an area where shitbirds that are scared of firearms congregate and it's a non-issue. People get butthurt at this reality instead of taking the much easier steps of just not openly carrying unless it's necessary or not openly carrying in areas where shitbirds will be around, or if they have to carry around shitbirds accepting the fact that they're probably gonna have to talk to a cop about it and should be polite and civil when they do. Including being ready for the cops to show up with guns drawn because some asshole lied and said you were being threatening when you weren't, in which case if you don't act like a shitbird and comply you can then turn around and sue the dick off of the county for infringing your rights and a laundry list of other shit which will take money out of said shitbirds pockets in the form of tax revenue paying your settlement so you can finally leave that place and move somewhere that isn't retarded. + +Or you can be an ass and scream about your rights and be a dick to the cops and get shot and die and some smug fuck is hailed as a hero for reporting a crazy guy with a gun. +>>57882799 +Correct and checked, or for handguns they'd CC instead of OC +--- 57882910 +>>57882799 +Except he aimed it at someone you retard + +>Owning a gun will get you shot! +Go back to Moms Against Guns. +--- 57882929 +>>57882894 +>people get upset +shortened it for you +--- 57882987 +>>57882929 +Thanks, just figured I'd spell it all out for the slow kids. +--- 57883009 +>>57882910 +>>Owning a gun will get you shot! +Who are you quoting? Are you silly in the head? +--- 57883013 +>>57882228 +>If you're abusing a loophole that allows for openly carrying when it's necessary to draw attention you're being a gigafaggot +If you're doing this to be a nuisance about a fucking stupid law like that fishing chad posted earlier in the thread then it's fine. Florida needs to unfuck that bullshit and DeSantis is a bitch ass nigger for half assing the permitless carry instead of going all the way. +--- 57883098 +>>57883009 +Hes quoting the post +>>57882799 +>open carrying a rifle in the real world will most likely cause you to end up like pic related +>the pic related got shot and killed +thus saying +>Owning a gun will get you shot! + +C'mon man READ! +--- 57883150 +>>57864918 (OP) +How many mass shootings took place in areas where people were openly carrying? +--- 57883167 +>>57883013 +DeSantis is a bitch for about a billion different reasons, still hella dumb to open carry on a mega popular public beach with a rifle and a fishing pole. +--- 57883227 +>>57883150 +Bunches? Dude shot up a bank a week ago. + +How many mass shootings started with someone open carrying? +--- 57883296 +>>57877600 +>gets shot while drawing from the back. +lol +--- 57883417 +>>57882987 +--- 57883428 +>>57883227 +No one was open carrying in that bank, nice try though +--- 57883442 +>>57883167 +There's plenty of blue utopias you can move to, go be mad there. +--- 57883478 +>>57883098 +No one said owning a gun will get you shot though. We said open carrying an AK like a retard will. If you carry it at "low-ready" like the dude in >>57882799 pic, then someone will eventually perceive you as a threat. If you carry it slung on your back like the fags in the OP pic, then a dindu will eventually shoot you in the back of the head to steal your gun. It happens all the time when retards open carry handguns without retention: + +https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/clayton-county/police-37-year-old-man-killed-after-gun-stolen-holster-while-waiting-line-gas-station/QBFRQVTEJZB4NISX3ZE6PE3LZQ/ + +https://www.11alive.com/article/news/crime/shooting-decatur-dunkin-donuts/85-2d1e1733-b1f9-451e-9296-5153ca46de36 +--- 57883499 +>>57864918 (OP) +No, I carry a pistol +--- 57883542 +>>57883478 +>low-ready +Pointing your muzzle isn't "low ready" you retard. + +>37-year-old-man-killed-after-gun-stolen +CCW get robbed too, better ban that also +--- 57883601 +I love it when dense spergs try to argue with each other +--- 57883654 +>>57866059 +>wh-what I'm just FISHING bro? +Open carry faggots just like the attention +--- 57883661 +>>57866059 +unbelievably based dude. +--- 57883682 +If you open carry a rifle and record yourself with a chest cam thinking your the authority on schooling anyone. You are a dumbass. End of discussion. +--- 57883689 +>>57883542 +How do CCW get robbed if they're concealed? Brainlet. +--- 57883699 +>>57883542 +You argue in bad faith and are desperate to be right. +--- 57883733 +For those of you here who think Trump's whole "National Conceal Carry 2024" is legit. Well. don't forget he said the exact same thing back in 2016, and he never did shit about it when we actually could have gotten things passed. + +He's lying to you +--- 57883806 +>>57883227 +>mass shooters had guns + +People who get ass-hurt over open carry really are indistinguishable from anti-fun advocates +--- 57883836 +>>57883699 +You think aiming center-mass at a seated driver is low ready. Take your "faith" and fuck off. +--- 57883844 +>>57883689 +The same way people with concealed wallets get their wallets stolen at gun point? +--- 57883865 +Based Jerry Miculek dabbing on open-carry spergs +>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGslzXxDhEU [Embed] +--- 57883905 +>>57883865 +That vest is the last thing I would wear if I didn't want anyone to think I was carrying. +--- 57884048 +>>57883905 +Then wear a jacket you nitpicking princess +--- 57884320 +>>57882894 +If its such a waste of police resources, maybe they should stop responding to it +--- 57884672 +>>57883733 +Trump couldn't even get the wall due to RINOs like McCain and Ryan. +>>57884320 +>HELP HELP 911 THERE'S A CRAZY INCEL IN THE GROCERY STORE WITH AN ASSAULT WEAPON +Of course they're going to respond to it. +--- 57884683 +>>57884672 +>Trump couldn't even get the wall due to RINOs like McCain and Ryan. +you couldn't be more wrong +--- 57884702 +>>57883865 +There's going to be one sperg in this thread who will have a meltdown over this. +--- 57887108 +>>57882529 +based +--- 57888087 +>>57883601 +me too +--- 57888238 +>>57865323 +You know they are methheads because they are thin +--- 57888272 +>>57882910 +>Except he aimed it at someone you retard +it was proven in a court beyond reasonable doubt that he didn't +--- 57890083 +>>57876861 +necessary +--- 57890331 +>>57890083 +Is this one of those things where it's like those shitty prank channels where they hire black guys to pretend to beat them up or threaten them? diff --git a/k/57865882.txt b/k/57865882.txt index 1e65ebbc4cfb2a1843f70f943c608d41d2803dae..071e8b63621eda57c5784daf7fe50b09a9f91eb1 100644 --- a/k/57865882.txt +++ b/k/57865882.txt @@ -588,3 +588,429 @@ It will never be a duty round, dealwithit. >>57879510 >55 round drum Why not just go with a P90 if you want capacity so bad that you'd consider bulky drums? +--- 57879685 +>>57879625 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01OAJo_7M2s [Embed] + +this might change your viewpoints. + +>>57879656 +cus the barrel on that is 16 inches and it's great for poorfags. the 5.7 round needs velocity to do any damage +--- 57879737 +>>57879685 +>cus the barrel on that is 16 inches and it's great for poorfags. the 5.7 round needs velocity to do any damage +...the stock civilian market PS90 comes with a 16" barrel, and there is no gun in 5.7x28mm that's great for poorfags when ammo prices are comparable to full power rifle cartridges at 65c/round. +--- 57879824 +>>57879737 +bottleneck cartridges are the future of handgun cartridges and duty firearms but go off. +--- 57879910 +>>57879824 +>don't actually offer any advantage for normal civilian world handgun use +>lose more energy out of shorter carry gun barrels than straight wall pistol cartridges +>more expensive +>suck to reload for, particularly 5.7x28mm with its extreme pickiness about case maintenance and need for rifle primers due to its high pressures rather than being able to use pistol primers +"the future" +--- 57880671 +>>57879824 +The real future of pistols and shotguns is caseless ammo. + +>Low volume of fire weapons do not suffer from the heat build up issue (which was already solved btw) +>Lightweight as feathers +>High efficiency magazines that use cube shaped ammo +>Fired electronically so the trigger is always perfectly crisp no matter what the mechanics of the gun are +--- 57880711 +>>57880671 +>crisp trigger + +If it doesn't have a sweet tangy crunch supreme trigger I don't want it. +--- 57880904 +They're all fine as long as you practice. If you don't practice then we'll... Pick your poison and uh... Good luck. +--- 57881519 +>>57865882 (OP) +>are shotguns for home defense a meme? +No, but all weapons are a series of compromises. +In the case of the shotgun you are trading capacity and rapid fire for a lot of power in single blasts. Pump actions are reliable and can be fast enough if you actually bothered to train for it. +My advice: Get a Mossberg 500 or 590 and a bunch of snap caps and run dry drills through your home. +Maybe look up room clearing videos on YouTube. +Short stroking is practically a non-issue and is about as likely as a malfunction is in a semi-auto rifle. +> I feel like a shorty ar just looks too "scary" and a pistol is underpowered +My only issue with AR pistols is the noise. +A pistol is a solid choice for HD and one that everyone seems to gloss over in their argument over shotguns vs carbines. +--- 57881614 +>>57875307 +>I get the impression that even in castle doctrine/stand your ground states that shooting someone in home defense is gonna either get you imprisoned or sued by the home invader if they lived or by their family if they die +Well you can think that, but you’re wrong. Try finding examples of that happening. +--- 57881627 +5.56 sucks big donkey dick for home defense +--- 57881722 +>>57876415 +>American police win over 98% of their gunfights, they're exceptional. +With huge numerical advantages and criminals usually trying to escape versus trying to fight. And probably 75% of engagements can niggers who suck at shooting. Cops hit between 10-15% of their shots which is abysmal. The times when people fight rather than flee cops lose or have a negative K:D + +Civilian stats are very very hard to find but from what we can find, they hit more often, stop the threat in fewer shots, and don’t hurt bystanders as often. +--- 57881734 +>>57876495 +>Soldier's never get close enough to get that hard of an adrenaline dump. +>trust me guys the profession with a higher obesity rate than the general population is actually hard as fuck +>soldiers ain’t got shit on us +Post body, officer tubby +--- 57881816 +>>57876631 +>Instructor +If that’s true than you should know how fucking bad most cops are at shooting +--- 57881841 +>>57878169 +>and rifles/armor/big teams are only used for higher threat levels +Oh so when the stakes are higher the rifles come out? Wow what a fucking shock. If you are clearing rooms in HD then the stakes will never be higher for you. + +Please show me a single doctrine that supports solo room clearing with a pistol. I’ll admit I’m wrong if you do. +--- 57881872 +>>57879008 +It’s true. Search for drywall penetration by bullets or something on YouTube. Tons of people have done it. + +Standard 55gr FMJ won’t go through more interior walls than 9mm because it starts to tumble. If you’re really worried about overpenetration (you shouldn’t be) use 60gr vmax. Vmax and similar are purposely designed to fragment and break up. The 60gr is just enough heavier to help reach vitals. +--- 57881881 +>>57879101 +>ricochets +How will that happen in your house? +--- 57881892 +>>57879423 +>Blame the nigger who caused it not the cops who struggled to solve the horrific situation he caused +Wut? +>You're not going to like guerilla justice. Have fun getting your hands chopped off for stealing nigger. +We aren’t niggers so we don’t steal. Ever think that were the ones doing the chopping? +>We protected criminals from street justice more than anything else. +Thanks for admitting it. This is why everyone hates you. You protect criminals rather than stop them. +--- 57882054 +>>57881892 +Tbf they also protect people accused of crime +--- 57882056 +I watched all 4 John Wicks, my feet and fist are more lethal weapons. That's why I keep them in a combination lockbox. +--- 57882478 +>>57879510 +>all the size of a carbine +>with all the weakness of a pistol round +5.7 is cool. Some niche cases it’s great. But if you have a non-NFA 16” gun, just get an AR (or whatever carbine). It’s better. +--- 57882489 +>>57879685 +>and it's great for poorfags +No 5.7 is great for poorfags. If budget is the primary concern, get an AR in 5.56 +>the 5.7 round needs velocity to do any damage +Yeah and .223/5.56 has even more and better bullets +--- 57882498 +>>57879824 +>bottleneck cartridges are the future of handgun cartridges +Then why did you post a rifle dipshit? And talk about a 16” barrel giving it the velocity it needs? +--- 57882659 +>>57882054 +Like whom? The people trying to keep their businesses open during covid against the wishes of illegal health orders? The pastors holding services in parking lots? Or the people expressing their 1st amendment rights to complain about the previous items? Or did you mean those accused of wrongthink via red flag laws that violate the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments? How fortunate we are that they stick up for us lowly citizens and our pesky rights. Oh wait…. +--- 57882688 +>>57877879 +>he doesn't live in Texas +NGMI +--- 57882718 +>>57866344 +>more likely to fuck up someone wearing concealed armor plates +lol +--- 57882743 +>>57873783 +>only eee for a minute +"Temporary" hearing loss is permanent cell death that your brain still has redundancy to cope with and work around. It is still very much a permanent degradation of function that chunk of salty fat in your skull is pulling off voodoo magic to stop you from noticing. +--- 57884711 +>>57867207 +>First shell is birdshot. It warns off the intruder without doing lethal damage +Lol at short distances it will make a big hole at whatever you shoot, it will absolutely kill +--- 57884896 +>>57881841 +Not when the stakes are higher but when the potential threat is different, the stakes are always high because it's your life & your team's lives. I'll tell you right now, my life and my family's lives are better protected by my handgun and superior indoors tactics, then your rifle and your retardation. You will not do as well with it. The threat you will most likely face and the tactics you should use are far better suited for a handgun. + +>>57881892 +>you +Not me, I just told you it wasn't me. I don't have any ideological ties to those people, I did it for a paycheck. They all do, some get caught up and get ideologically tied. You can point your fat little schizo fingers and say I admitted that too. + +You won't do shit, whites are extremely cowardly. We protected you more than anything. If police are gone you're on the chopping block. I was alluding to Asian and Middle Eastern store owners when I said that. +--- 57885000 +>>57884896 +>You won't do shit, whites are extremely cowardly. We protected you more than anything. If police are gone you're on the chopping block + +Again, look at CHAZ. Two lunchtime rowdies came in with a hot car, they got lit up, somebody came in and shot them execution style, killed one. Brass got cleaned up, witnesses shut up, no arrests. +Or Ahmed Arbory the original jogger. The only thing stopping this from happening a lot more is cops. +--- 57885076 +>>57885000 +>white trash do dumb shit therefore the good whites will be safe + +Those are both examples of absolutely retarded things white people have done. +--- 57885108 +>>57882688 +Yeah glad I don’t live in a Metropolitan area that’s mostly floodplain and full of steers, queers, and Californians. +--- 57885169 +>>57885076 +CHAZ wasn't white trash you fucking tard it was leftist antifa types thinking the CHUDs were attacking lol +--- 57885233 +>>57885169 +>wasn't white trash +>leftist antifa types + +Same thing. You think you have to be a republitard to be white trash? It just means low IQ genetic trash whites, they make up a significant portion of leftists. These are not smart people, they're homeless drug addicts who ate the entire Jewish indoctrination cake. They're the lowest form of whites, at least the right wing retards have jobs and families. +--- 57885401 +>>57876606 +>The design peaked with the AUG +It peaked with the FAMAS it's not a meme for nothing. That is the only one that has a proper trigger and is the most compact one. +Most guns with collapsible stocks are shorter than the military issued AUG, it's barely smaller than the M4. +The reason the FAMAS never took (and why it's getting replaced) is because of industrial and political reasons, not because the gun is lacking in qualities. You have a 20 inch barrel and a bipod to shoot long distance, a short rifle to clean rooms, you can switch it for lefties with a cartridge as your only tool, it had a stupid fire rate so with the bipod it could do some suppression in the absence of a SAW, it has a burst mode that increase chances to hit especially for not well trained troops, it comes with it's assortement of rifle grenades without having to add a dedicated launcher. It's truly built with multipurpose in sight making it the best "service" rifle. +An M4 with a 10.5in is better for room cleaning a DMR is better for long shots, a M79 is a more precise grenade launcher, a SAW is better for suppression, etc... +But the FAMAS does it all. +--- 57885460 +>>57866700 +And burn your house down. This is still home defense we're talking about. Would it really bypass armor if all the shots Land on it, or would the armor just contain the fire +--- 57885486 +>>57885460 +>>57866700 +Dragon breath are just good to set the countryside on fire. +People on camera douse whatever they want to catch fire with accelerant then fire the dragon breath, IRL about as useful as firing a flare into someone. +--- 57885594 +>>57872186 +Because your house will burn down lol +--- 57885772 +>>57866519 +That's worth considering but I think the effectiveness of a shotgun speaks for itself. I am considering subsonic loads (pump shotgun) to potentially mitigate heating damage as well. +--- 57887193 +>>57866876 +arg fags will actually kill themselves if their baby is locked up forever +--- 57888330 +>>57887193 +I’m afraid to use my antique weapons in a home defense situation for fear they’ll take it and by the time they hand it back it’s a piece of rust +So I use a 400$ gun instead +--- 57888528 +>>57866876 +>retard actually thinks the specs of his gun have that much of an effect on the outcome of a self defense scenario +--- 57888562 +>>57865882 (OP) +Shotgun isn't a meme. Stopping power isn't a meme. +5.56 is shit for self defense. I have shot a lot of stuff with .223 Rem: fox, coyotes, pigs, white tail, mule deer, javelina, bobcats, feral dogs. Most of those things are smaller and lighter than a human, it's still underpowered for killing them. A lot of that is that even the expensive hollowpoints fail to expand about half the time because the projectile is so small. It's very accurate, controllable, flat-shooting, mags carry a lot of it, blah blah. If you are using an SBR like half of the retards on this board will suggest you may as well just use a 10/22 and save your eardrums. You will be getting the same ballistics out of a short barrel (and losing a cheaper gun to the cops). +5.56 is used for military applications. You are not in a squad of ten guys magdumping to keep hadjis pinned so that an A10 can turn their position into a trench full of human-flavored milkshake. You are one person, you probably have one shot to save your life and your family's life. You want them to die when you pull the trigger. Not be scared, not be warned, not be wounded. You are only firing because they are threatening your life. You need that problem solved. A 12 gauge full of your choice of buck is a pretty good solution. + +Note: 5.7 is even worse than 5.56 +--- 57888583 +>>57867170 +>“I cast Niggus Deletus” +my fucking god dude. that gave me a kek +--- 57888584 +>>57866974 +1. Keep a few extra spent shotshells (match how many you use) +2. Fire the same type of shell out of both guns +... and that's that +--- 57888603 +Why do I have to see this theead every fucking day. + +As if all of us don’t already know that shotguns are most powerful weapon you can have for defensive use, and the one gun shitlibs are receptive to. +--- 57888639 +>>57867170 +>“I cast Niggus Deletus” + +My sides exploded out of battery. +--- 57888648 +>>57877919 +With a 30% hit rate. Ex LE and not surprised at all. +--- 57888681 +>>57874961 +They should not be in your house and if they were in mine I'd magdump through the walls at waist height. I have no problem repairing holes. + +A strategically placed mirror and furniture to funnel attackers would help. +--- 57888766 +>>57884896 +t. +--- 57888990 +>>57865882 (OP) +>are shotguns for home defense a meme? + +old celebrities like whoopie goldberg made it a meme. she said just cock the shotgun when you hear the intruder is in the home and they'll run away, or whatever. in reality it's a long ass weapon and you have to be trained with it. any gun is good in home defense. there's no perfect gun for home defense. + +if you want absolute peace and protection, hide multiple firearms in several locations in your home that a burglar wouldn't look into. +--- 57889037 +They incapacitate better than rifles within 50 yards, in regards to number shots fired. +However, they're not as good for causing instant lethality as rifles. +--- 57889064 +>>57889037 +>shotgun +>not as good for instant lethality +You're high. +--- 57889121 +>>57884896 +>Not me, I just told you it wasn't me. I don't have any ideological ties to those people +>We protected you more than anything +Pick one you faggot. Are you just some guy collecting a paycheck or are you part of the group? You say "we" often and talk like you are a cop so you are part of the group. + +>I'll tell you right now, my life and my family's lives are better protected by my handgun and superior indoors tactics +Unless you have claymores rigged up at entrances, I doubt it. My tactic is to post up at the top of the stairs and wait in the killbox, not to go around searching for them and clearing rooms like some l33t oper8tor. +>You will not do as well with it. +Dead is dead and long guns kill people quicker. Period. +>The threat you will most likely face and the tactics you should use are far better suited for a handgun. +Lol what threats? A couple redguards trying to get the palace treasury are handled with either. If the world collapses after the boys in blue disappear, like you pretend it will, then packs of raiders are much too large of a threat to deal with using a handgun. +>You won't do shit, whites are extremely cowardly +Correct. I am completely demoralized. Time to hand over my guns and report for penis inspection day. +>We protected you more than anything. +Lol. Lmao. Let see +>Warren vs DC +>Lozito v. New York City +>Katrina gun confiscation +>Dorner manhunt shooting two women in a completely different vehicle over 100 times (and not managing to kill either) +>Dennis Tuttle +>Duncan Lemp +>UPS driver carjacking +>the entirety of 2020 +>Uvalde +Sure bro you really keep us safe + +You won't answer to the rest, so answer this. What's your BMI? Mine is 25.7, and I admit I have about 5lbs to lose. +>https://time.com/3637967/police-officers-fattest-profession-study/ +--- 57889145 +>>57885076 +Chaz was literally all niggers and anarcho-commie leftist whites. Try again +--- 57889161 +>>57866700 +By the time they burnt enough to matter, if they even start on fire, they could shoot you 10 times +--- 57889173 +>buckshot has the highest rate of 1-stop shots at a tad over 80% of cases +Shotguns just work :^) +--- 57889190 +Related video. + +>Analyzing 1800 Shootings: Which Caliber Has the Best Stopping Power? +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np5AnrYFHws [Embed] +--- 57889219 +>>57889064 +I might be, might be not, I sure wish I was, but that's what the numbers over 20 years say. Also that's beyond 50 yards. within 50 they're basically the same. +--- 57889227 +>>57889219 +>literally said within 50 yards +>now it's outside of 50 yards +>hurdur home defense at more than 50 yards +nigger shut the fuck up +>muh data +yeah post it +--- 57889229 +>>57889037 +>they're not as good for causing instant lethality as rifles. +With the same shot placement they are equal and almost certainly better (assuming proper loads). Quicker stops are what shotguns have going for them +--- 57889267 +>>57889229 +I think the quicker stops are mostly a psychological error, given modern rifle ammunition. + +>it takes x seconds for any non-brain hit to produce an effect through blood loss +>shotgun has a rate of fire of 1 per x +>rifle has a rate of fire of 4 per x +>it appears shotguns are 4x as good when actually rifles may be equally good, but rifle users automatically overkill because they're able to unlike with a slower ROF gun +--- 57889269 +>>57889219 +Nigger it’s home defense. 10 yards is a long shot. 25 yards is absurdly far in this context. 25 would be outside the home and then it’s an entirely different discussion. +--- 57889272 +>>57866349 +>>57866174 +Plebs +--- 57889357 +>>57889227 +Worry not weary stranger. You are correct in all of your assumptions and 20 years of police engagement analysis is wrong. Time for your victory sleep. Goodnight. + +>>57889229 +It was all done with 000 and 00 buck which was deemed appropriate for the 40 planned standoffs, which sometimes folded to 100 yards. so, yea your assumption is validated by the book. + +I implied beyond 50 yards, centerfire rifles maintain high rates of instant lethality and incapacitation, when within 50 the shotgun is marginally the same. +--- 57889368 +>>57889357 +>40 yard planned standoffs +--- 57889398 +>>57889269 +I haven't stated an opinion this entire thread lol. I mentioned a pretty interesting analysis on shotguns. That's it. I didn't fuck your mom or turn your dog gay. +--- 57889400 +>>57889357 +>20 years of data +>n-no I can't post it +yeah sure seems legit +>I implied beyond 50 yards +No you didn't, you directly and in no unceratain terms said the opposite of that. +>They incapacitate better than rifles within 50 yards, in regards to number shots fired. +>However, they're not as good for causing instant lethality as rifles. +You're just fucking wrong, and incredibly stupid. +--- 57889404 +>>57865882 (OP) +I heard buckshot maximizes suffering so that's why I chose a shotgun. +--- 57889413 +>>57875936 +You're not going to be convicted of a crime for shooting an INTRUDER in your own home with an AR15. That's not how it fucking works. It's fear mongering. You might be charged by an NPC ADA but it's going to have to be some blatantly stupid shit you did or you live in California. +--- 57889421 +>>57889400 + +See picrel. +>>57889037 +You waste of cum, It was literally posted lol. +--- 57889454 +>>57889421 +>see pic rel +>doesn't post pic +Hmm, not seeing any data at all on shotgun lethality. Oh look, it took me less than one second to look up. + +Now what do you want to bet if we filter out all the fudds who bought into "use birdshot so it won't overpenetrate" that buckshot has a near 100% incapacitation rate? +--- 57889616 +>>57889454 + +5% more... out of how many shots? at what distance? what load? Where did you get this from? This means very little. Which is why i cited the BOOK, you fucking caveman. Citing a source isn't the same as spoon feeding a vegetative retard, it's letting you know where the information was from so you can go look at it yourself. that's how empirical data works. + +>Now what do you want to bet if we filter out all the fudds who bought into "use birdshot so it won't overpenetrate" that buckshot has a near 100% incapacitation rate? +>>57889357 + +or you know, go read the book you insufferable little shit. +--- 57889626 +>>57889616 +>cited a source +But you didn't do that. You just said +>here's a picture of a book +That is not a citation. Page number and direct quote, right now or you're full of it. +--- 57889633 +>>57889616 +>r-read the book +Not gonna, don't care. 00 buck to the chest is in no way survivable under any circumstance. +--- 57889662 +Anyone who doubts the power of the shotgun should let someone shoot them with one. +--- 57889709 +>>57889626 +>You just said +Brother, that's what citing is. When you go to school, you're taught several writing formats and citing them is all pretty much the same thing across the board. + +>Page number and direct quote, right now +Alright, lets see here by pulling this book out of my ass that I keep on my person for this exact scenario... Ah yes, Page 21 is says the following. "Your moms a hoe." + +>>57889633 +The book was written pretty much on that entire premise. +--- 57889721 +>>57889709 +>Brother, that's what citing is +No, it's not. +>When you go to school, you're taught several writing formats and citing them is all pretty much the same thing across the board. +Perfect, now fill out your citation using one of those forms. Oh wait, you can't because you don't have a source. "I read a story" isn't a source. +--- 57889775 +>>57866947 +>>57876361 +why exactly would you want to pump the shotgun, when you could instead not do that? +--- 57889797 +>>57889721 +You can post links to abstracts which is considered citing but the name of a book and author, holy shit not good enough for the internet of strangers. Seems you're right afterall and I'm sure if (You) cite the book it will show something magically entirely different. + +Besides replying to your bitch ass all night, It's a great book and everyone interested about shotguns should read it. +--- 57889905 +>>57876521 +>*magdumps someone just sitting in his car* +>"u-uh he had a gun in a holster so it's justified" +based +--- 57890079 +>>57889775 +Cost. That’s a good reason. But you missed my entire point. It’s not that pumps are better than semi autos, it’s that short stroking it is not a serious concern +--- 57890106 +>>57890079 +Not him, agree. However, I do think there is a risk of you getting injured and being unable to use the pump effectively. +--- 57890541 +>>57889145 +So black trash and white trash. +--- 57890559 +>>57884896 +This retard is definitely a mall cop diff --git a/k/57866742.txt b/k/57866742.txt index ac2f9d67a3c89838805708b8c5ef565cc7babc79..ae9a9e03433b2ea733f3b540b941195849085c8a 100644 --- a/k/57866742.txt +++ b/k/57866742.txt @@ -106,3 +106,54 @@ based --- 57879324 >>57866816 This man's dick +--- 57881165 +>>57879318 +Kek +--- 57881634 +>>57874038 +Based. +--- 57881709 +Brick, also good when going to war against the unspeakable +--- 57881752 +>>57866855 +>be watching this movie at dad's house +>which is out on the country next to a huge field +>my dad, sister, dog and me +>stepmom died recently in a car crash +At least it wasn't as bad as basically a week after she died and we were watching the James Bond movie where he gets married and she dies in a driveby. +--- 57881778 +>>57873736 +H...hot. +--- 57883282 +>>57871196 +Remember when demons and beast cast their darkness, you’ll have God’s love and Browning’s wrath to guide you +--- 57884375 +>>57866742 (OP) +20mm Vulcan and my dick. +>>57867005 +Soviet reports were that SAMs and AKs work just fine as long as you can weather the ayyy's response. +--- 57885644 +>>57867121 +>Le Shaymalan plotwist + +Most overrated director of the 00s. +--- 57886151 +I read a story about how some drunk russian detailed how to make a fairly simple, I think Plasma Cannon. + +You start by digging a hole about a mile deep in the earth, then line it thick with really good concrete until it's as close to a perfect circle as possible. +Fill it halfway full of water, and float a nuclear bomb at the bottom, and cap it with a copper disk. +Upon detention, every bit of water in it will be atomized, and send the copper disk into space at an appreciable fraction of light. +--- 57886237 +>>57866742 (OP) +M4 +--- 57888332 +>>57881709 +based +--- 57890294 +>>57866816 +A man this confident in combat potential of his own penis cannot possibly be wrong. + +Give 'em hell, O Champion of the Human Race! +--- 57890930 +>>57879318 +I will now buy your book. diff --git a/k/57867317.txt b/k/57867317.txt index beb90100d101e784ffaf13c15a86cb93b39e3007..fd27b7a35151ffa8fa63956da8c0ff0ae999c20a 100644 --- a/k/57867317.txt +++ b/k/57867317.txt @@ -320,3 +320,131 @@ It's a metaphor for his new station in life. --- 57878031 >>57867745 It’s like I’m watching an episode of the show right now. Which I am, but I mean like a second one at the same time. +--- 57880105 +Bump +--- 57880207 +>>57875527 +Man, that episode is so good, but he turns down the French countess (or whatever her social standing is) and then goes to the wife that ends up cheating on him while stealing all his money. Honestly, I'd have tried to find that castle again. +--- 57880222 +>>57867317 (OP) +Why doesn’t use a Glock or something? Swords are pretty obsolete +--- 57880236 +I was ambush! Terribly ambush at Hostomel! By BLACK Afro-Ukrainians! +--- 57880267 +>>57877681 +Mercian regiment +--- 57880482 +>>57880207 +>wife that ends up cheating on him while stealing all his money. +Which one? It happens to him like every other book. +--- 57880554 +>>57880482 +only one wife steals his money; Jane, the one with the humongous tits in the series + +Poor Teresa died (my type), nobody cares about Lucille, the rest are all passing love interests +--- 57880596 +>>57867505 +>His cavalry sword was given to him by a dying superior officer in one of the books iirc. +same deal with the show, officer doomed even explicitly tells Sharpe that his sword will make the chosen men respect him more +--- 57880657 +>>57870946 +That officer is the commander of the British army in Spain. +Sharpes Rifles, the first episode, isn't amazing, but the second one, Sharpes Eagle is really good, if you don't like that one the series probably isn't for you. +--- 57880659 +>>57867745 +The "AAAAAHHHHHH BANG with the 7 barreled gun" gets me every time +--- 57880720 +>>57880554 +>not knowing Elizabeth Hurley +Peak 90s coomer bait +--- 57880748 +>>57867745 +>>"Oh surely as the fields o' Ireland are green, sir, God has a plan for us, sir" +My fucking sides +--- 57880763 +>>57880720 +>Machine gun jubblies?! How did I ever miss those! +Indeed +Still, I confess a predilection for the slim streamlined type of girl +--- 57880870 +>>57867317 (OP) +>for range traps, James? +--- 57881280 +He did literally nothing wrong. +--- 57881896 +>>57880554 +Lucille is pretty top tier, tfw no French farmgirl waifu to put her cow milking skills to use on you after taking the buckshot she put in you out, Shame she only appears in two episodes +Jane may have massive tits, but you're making yourself related to Simerson which is a fate worse than death really +--- 57882198 +>>57867745 +>They fuck +>"Look Patrick! It's the thing we're here for!" +Blessed take. +--- 57884783 +>no gunpilled qt Irish gf +--- 57884785 +Why the fuck do the soundtracks for this show NOT have the electric guitar? I don't need some Snape-haired bumbandit warbling about Spanish hills. +--- 57884893 +>>57884783 +Idk why she never made another appearance +--- 57884948 +>>57884893 +Sharpe's Gold is infamously the worst episode, not based on the novel and the more that recurred from it, the more that ITV would have to acknowledge the Aztec turd's existence. +--- 57885083 +>>57884948 +Best Sharpe girl though other than Liz Hurley +--- 57885093 +>>57885083 +Lass making Simmerson swallow his own money at gunpoint is fucking kino tbf. +--- 57886031 +>>57867986 +Wounded? You mean shot and stabbed through the chest 9 times only to walk it off to the sound of +>o'er the hills and far away... +--- 57886184 +>>57880236 +>PISS THY BRITCHES +--- 57886418 +>>57885093 +Which episode? I don't remember that. +--- 57886701 +>>57886031 +>it's another episode of Sharpe jets ambushed and gets his ass kicked in some alley again +--- 57886714 +>>57867317 (OP) +Because swords rock brother +--- 57886924 +>>57884785 +you shut your bitch mouth about hagman +are you just jealous that he is the finest shot with a rifle and you aren't? +or maybe you're just fr-nch +--- 57886993 +>>57886418 +Sharpe's Sword. Peak Simmerson fuckery, from his shit hat to his sobbing defeat in a swordfight. +--- 57887124 +Why does Simmerson get so much play in these threads, but not arguably the best villain to have ever marched out of a cloud of pipeclay. +Obadiah must have his scratchings, mother. +--- 57887156 +>>57887124 +simmerson has flair and a misplaced sense of superiority +obadiah is just petty and deranged +--- 57887182 +>Well I say, I say, why are we fighting white men? +>I would much prefer to be whipping my niggers as they pick my cotton. +>*chomps cigar* +Seriously, what was his problem? +--- 57887283 +>>57887182 +That's a very bad misreading of his character. +--- 57887464 +>>57887283 +lurk more +--- 57888191 +>>57887124 +Obadiah is legitimately too scary to meme about. +--- 57888620 +>>57887124 +Obadiah is a shit villain +--- 57891387 +>>57887124 +>Obadiah must have his scratchings, mother. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpoR3nmvjnw [Embed] diff --git a/k/57868019.txt b/k/57868019.txt index dfd52da27b2a35a8c2b6689807793b409d97efd3..430ca49ce9e159ee55856e39bef80ed2c17fade0 100644 --- a/k/57868019.txt +++ b/k/57868019.txt @@ -309,3 +309,284 @@ You know they make molle pouches right? >>57876725 >Coyote tactical IFAKs (they support pass thru as well as molle) Shit I have one and didn't even realize. Could have spared myself two LAB panels. +--- 57880850 +>>57877111 +No, it uses a different battery unique to it. I'd personally recommend getting a Yaesu FT-65R over this as it's essentially a Baofeng at the silicon level but with good filtering so the radio can actually pick up shit. If you're just getting this to slap on your plate carrier to keep in touch with your training buddies in the woods it's no big deal and the fengs will do what you need them to do, but if you start wanting to talk over more significant distances (more than a mile or two) you'll get frustrated by how deaf these things can be to lower power signals. +--- 57880883 +>>57873970 +Are you just referring focus caps? I just punched a 5.56 hole in the soft bikini caps I bought and it works fine for me. I haven’t had nearly enough need for a lot of change of focus tasks to warrant paying for the over priced caps. + A friend of mine used butler creek caps with a hole punched in it and it works for me. When my 31As come in that’s probably what I’m going to use as the traditional bikini caps can sometimes be finicky. +--- 57880889 +>>57880883 +*works for him +--- 57880953 +>>57878222 +A decent radio will have li-ion packs that you won't be able to beat for their footprint no matter what kind of 18650 holder you 3d print/cast from epoxy/buy off amazon. You could make the argument that 18650's are cheaper (hint: they're not, you're just buying cheap, dangerous batteries with overinflated stats) but 99% of the time it makes better sense to buy extra li-ion packs from the manufacturer or a trusted 3rd party since you can actually carry more usable capacity than you would stuffing 18650's in your gear. +AA/AAA/123 holders have their place since the shelf life of basic-bitch drug store lithium batteries is orders of magnitude longer than a rechargeable with no maintenance/conditioning. +--- 57881728 +amp bros... +--- 57881793 +>>57881728 +>Catalog +These look gay as shit too. Cant remember what the benefit is either. +--- 57882006 +>>57868019 (OP) +Perhaps a bit of a retarded question, but does anyone know of any shirts or hoddies that have shoulder pockets without looking "tactical". Not trying to greyman, just really like shoulderpockets in general, but I dont wanna walk around in multicam shirts like a mongoloid. I know Helikon tex has a few lines, but are there any other brands? +--- 57882047 +>>57881793 +Believe its supposed to make space for attachments on the top of the rails. Ops core has been pushing the new SF helmet has a package with the AMPs + goggles + SOTR mask + other gear, which means the underutilized bottom rail had to be used. +Personally I'm not a fan, I wasnt a fan on the peltor attachments either, since they also pop out, unity tactical is much better imo if you dont wanna run it under the helmet. +--- 57882141 +>>57871622 +I ran pic related on a NTC Reidar II rig, works great for me. Tho I have switched the Spud pouches over to my plate carrier so Ill have to order more spuds. But I like the option to expand from 3, all the way up to 9 mags. +But it seems to me like you'd benefit from a system that you can easily adapt and change. Something like what spiritus offers..Im sure there are other options out there. +--- 57882219 +>>57879586 +Yes but adding on everything else may be a struggle. Especially if I wanted to run my medical in a dangler to keep everything fairly flat without getting so wide that it fucks with wearing a ruck. I haven't seen many molle bases that have velcro to attach a dangler besides the spiritussy split front one. +--- 57882221 +>>57868019 (OP) +>fabarm shotty +Neat +--- 57882665 +For multiday camping trips with some hiking, would a 3 day suffice or should I spend the bit more on a 50L+ bag? +--- 57884798 +>>57882665 +Are you able to fit everything you need into a 3-day? If so, that ought to be fine. +50L isn't a lot for a multi-day hike/camp, though. +--- 57885086 +>>57885074 → +>>57885074 → +>>57885074 → +--- 57885188 +>>57880883 +You can buy screw in irises on AliExpress for like 40 bucks. +--- 57885287 +>>57880953 +It's the proprietary, fits one device form factor I object to. If the company goes out of business, then yeah, have to fuck around with a janky holder. If I need to carry backup batteries for e.g. a radio and a light, those are separate batteries – more weight and inflexibility. There isn't any reason in 2023 for proprietary batteries except liability bullshit and in some applications, like phones, everyone insisting shit be as thin as possible. And even in the latter case they could standardize on a LiPo form factor that could be serviced. + +>footprint + +Doesn't even have to be 18650 again, use 14500/18350 cells. +--- 57885394 +>>57885287 +Baofeng isn't going out of business anytime soon and the batteries are like 10 bucks each. Even if it did, you could just buy a new radio and not really have it matter. +--- 57885463 +>>57884798 +How much volume do you think could be good? I'm not thinking about 5+ days (at least for this pack) but like 3 days maybe 4 +--- 57885530 +>>57885463 +A 50 or a 60 would be good. You can get by with less if you know the area, otherwise you'll want to pack a bit extra in case of emergency. (Things like a lifestraw, antibiotics, etc.) +--- 57885557 +>>57885086 +I'm not even aware of anything other than Sordins when it comes to the halfway point between the cheap stuff and the Comtacs/AMPs. The Sordins sound okay and have directional audio, but I've heard that they're not great for mounting to helmets, if that's any concern. Otherwise, they're fine. +--- 57885682 +>>57885086 +>>57885557 +Earmors are a good option if you're wanting something a step above the Howard Leights or Impact Sports. Sound quality and directional hearing is much better than those. The Sordins are probably more durable and they do have better sound quality, but the directional hearing is about the same and you get comms and is much better for helmet mounting. +--- 57885789 +>>57885557 +>>57885682 +Thanks frens +--- 57885869 +>>57885530 +Sounds good, thanks! +--- 57886144 +Made a few updates +--- 57886595 +>>57886144 +I'm gonna go attach my gondola to my SBR because of this. +--- 57886660 +>>57882219 +>>57879455 +HSGI AO. Put your other stuff in a pocket or something. +--- 57886677 +hang on, quints? +--- 57886830 +Those with plate carriers, do you always keep the plates in there when youre wearing it or do you sometimes just use it as a chest rig? +--- 57886914 +>>57868019 (OP) +> Dick Kramer poster art +Brings back memories. There was a time that Kramer art was the meta for anybody putting out a catalog or new advertising line. +> S&W +> Colt +> HK +> FN +They all threw money at Kramer to get their new toy featured in a series of Kramer originals. +And then diamond plate was trendy. And flames. Resulted in some gaudy advertising. +--- 57886976 +R8 and h8 poverty loadout: + +Carrier: +>Black Ferro Slickster +>Unobtanium Gear D.R.I.P placard +>RMA 1155 (Not MC :'( ) +>Condor shoulder pads +>3 mags in front, 2 in coomerbund + +Belt: +>AWS SMU Multicam black +>Condor double pistol pouch +>Coyote burrito +>NAR ifak+tq +>Condor dump pouch +>Safariland ALS +>Amazon PIG ripoff gloves + +Pistol: +>G19 +>Ameriglo Idot sights +>124g HST + +Rifle: +>BCM 14.5 Socom profile upper +>Aero poverty lower +>BCM BCG +>Midwest Industries MLOK quad rail (not free floated) +>BCM Comp mod 1 +>Magpul MBUS Pro rear sight +>Aimpoint PRO +>SKD lower 1/3 Riser +>Specter raptor sling +>SLK Stock +>MOE k2 grip +>Magpul VFG +>Streamlight HLX +>PMC x-tac 5.56 55gr + +Other: +>Fenix PD35tac +--- 57886985 +>>57886976 +>RMA 1155 +It's over +--- 57886999 +Can small tubes and big tubes fit together? I want an equinox but already have long female tubes on my carrier +--- 57887015 +>>57886144 +Surprised you haven't managed to kill the Inforce. I killed 2 of them on basic 16" middies a few years ago just shooting at the range. +--- 57887217 +>>57886976 +Me next +Carrier: +>Black Ferro Slickster +>Mk4. Spiritus 3x 55.6 +>single curve lvl 4 ceramic 10x12 +>Ferro shoulder pads +>3 mags on torso total, could throw more in cummerbund + +Belt: +>Grey Ghost Gear belt +>Esstac 2pistol 1rifle +>LBT Med +>Safariland setup + +Pistol: +>G19 Gen4 +>Holosun 407c +>Modlite PLwhatever with PLHv1 head + +rifle: +>2000's era CMMG Mod4SA 16" FSP Carbine +>Eotech xps2-0 +>PA 3x Mag +>Unity mounts +>Drop in MI quad rail +>Modlite OKW head +>Surefire warcomp +>Vltor buffer system (sick nasty) +>Sopmod b5 +>BCM grip skinny + +thats the gist of it +--- 57887699 +>>57868019 (OP) + +>tfw you'll never be a cool operator +God I hope deep dive VR becomes a thing because I'm too much of a weak pussy to join the armed forces +--- 57887741 +>>57886976 +>RMA 1155 (Not MC :'( ) +lol +Your first priority should be to ditch those overweight, single-curve, fiberglass plates. +Pretty good, other than that. +Captcha: NDASS +--- 57887762 +>>57887699 +Have you seen the absolute state of the US military? +--- 57887905 +>>57887762 +if anon's a weak pussy, then surrounding himself with more weak pussies isn't going to help +--- 57887945 +>>57885086 +i have swatcoms, theyre pretty cool +the decibel limit when rigging in music is kinda lame though +on a positive note, the battery life lasted me near 6 months on construction +--- 57887947 +>>57887699 +Train towards shit that's still relevant as a civilian. It's fun too. +--- 57887979 +>>57887905 +thanks for the image anon, been looking forever for it +--- 57888057 +>>57887947 +>Train towards shit that's still relevant as a civilian +like what specifically +--- 57888063 +Are the ear plugs that go with amps worth a damn? I'm about to order the amps and it's not much more to get the ones that work with the plugs, but I probably won't order the plugs right now but am wondering if I should down the road +--- 57888189 +Anyone else getting comtac 7s? +--- 57888243 +>>57873970 +Fatass. +--- 57888318 +>>57888189 +do 20 pushups then you can post again. +--- 57888408 +>>57887741 +>ditch those overweight, single-curve, fiberglass plates. +y are they so bad? Isn't the Highcom the same weight? + +I was gonna go l210 but they also got meme'd on here. And I live in redneck huntin rifle country +--- 57888459 +What’s /gq/‘s sidearm of choice? +--- 57888575 +>>57888459 +for me it's the m&p 2.0 +--- 57888731 +>>57888459 +I CC a Glock 19, but use a Glock 45 for OWB stuff. +--- 57888924 +>>57888459 +Right now it's the 365XL. +Only Sig gun I own, but it fits my hand exceptionally well. +--- 57888947 +>>57888459 +P2000, P30SK, Glock 43, depends when and where +--- 57888993 +>>57888459 +CZ P01 because I like decockers +--- 57889557 +>>57887015 +He doesn't shoot his gun +--- 57889725 +>>57887947 +>Train towards shit that's still relevant as a civilian +so nothing? +Name the last time a civilian in the US got into a gunfight in his personally purchased plate carrier helmet and nods +--- 57889839 +>still no axl eclipse belt in multicam restock +what the fuck is their problem +--- 57889929 +>>57888459 +Staccato P and Glock 17 +--- 57889932 +>>57889839 +I got an email from OPT earlier today about the axl bunds, did you miss that one as well? +--- 57890309 +>>57889725 +wow you get it, learn something useful +--- 57890952 +QASM/GTSR buckles or G hooks for a plate carrier and placard? The QASM/GTSR buckles seem pretty industry standard, but I like how low profile the G hooks look. +--- 57891041 +>>57886144 +Why the AR mags on the belt? Wouldn't you be better off moving them to the PC and freeing up real estate on the belt? diff --git a/k/57868061.txt b/k/57868061.txt index 3fef610ab8eeab4ff6312e4e805618595eb2828b..b44c333c691f3b177f0106d9022602d8e3252a55 100644 --- a/k/57868061.txt +++ b/k/57868061.txt @@ -288,3 +288,344 @@ Notice how ever since they were deployed to Poland Russia stopped making constan Those kinds of people are generally nobility, which play by different rules compared to the random bugman. If you're some average Zhou from a Tier 3 city, you bet your ass you're going to have to fight your way through the rat swarm in order to get some economic security for you and your family. --- 57878520 Honestly? Just retire her, build more F-35's with the difference, and construct the NGAD. It's as shrimple as that. +--- 57880628 +>>57868061 (OP) +Upgrade 100 F-22's, decommission the rest, get NGAD and F/A-XX flying by 2027 and >2000 F-35's in the air by 2030 and we're golden. + +This is just "gibs more moni for black projects" from the Pentagon, it's the same kind of thinking when we saw the MiG-25, "over estimated it" and then created the 104:0 K/D F-15 which remains the single best 4.5th gen fighter on the planet +50 years after first flight. +--- 57880669 +>>57870364 +The moment you lengthen the design you end up with completely different aero performance, which means different control surfaces, which means different flight control systems, which means different engine tolerances which means etc etc etc + +Whilst the J-10 did build off of Lavi data (and the JF-17 evolved from the Super 7 project) to say it's a copy would be a incorrect over-simplification. + +It's like saying the AK-47 is a copy of the STG-44 + +Bottom line is: +>Jews can't be trusted +>Neither can chinks +>Physics is the same globally, aircraft designed for similar roles will end up looking similar +>Learning from other's is a natural part of development +>No such thing as "small changes" - small changes in design/engine usage lead to huge knock on effects. +--- 57880691 +>>57870531 +J-20 is not an air superiority fighter. +It's primary goal is to defeat slow moving AWACS platforms. +J-20 will never be comparable to the F-22. +--- 57880694 +>>57880669 + +The 5th gen J-20 design was remade after 100 units produced. Is this not the biggest shit show in modern aviation history or what +--- 57880700 +>>57868997 +The problems that make the f-22 obsolete include its missile bay being too small to carry top of the line A2A missiles. This is also true of the f-35. + +What we need for real is a new air superiority fighter, the NGAD. +--- 57880706 +>>57870531 +PL-15 specs cannot be trusted. That's why there is no hurry in the west to develop a counter. +--- 57880728 +>>57880691 +I don't think the criteria defining an air superiority fighters is static. Today's fighters need to be fast, high, long sighted and able to carry many missiles or at least some big missiles with high PK. The j-20 seems like it has some of that. +--- 57881115 +>>57880728 +>The j-20 seems like it has some of that. +Based on what data, exactly? May I see the J-20 flying high and fast at Mach 1.5+? It carries 4 missiles internally, plus the two AIM-9 clones, and has no gun. The radar isn't that good, unless you can prove otherwise? What is the PK of the PL-15, and can I see some data to prove it? China literally lies about every other metric they release to the public, yet, you'll take their propaganda about the J-20, PL-15, and PL-20 as gospel? Are you seriously retarded, or a WuMao shill? +--- 57881307 +>>57880694 +Anon discovered iterative production and continual improvement. + +The C-5 Galaxy program was almost scrapped after the first entire batch was finished due to wing stress cracks. +Refining a design after initial production isn't the end of the world. + +Initial J-20 blocks are still in service, remind me what changes were made and explain why they're a "shit show". +--- 57881331 +>>57881115 +>prove the radar is good +How about you prove that it isn't good? + +PL-15E (export model) is sold as being capable of up to 145km. PL-15 (domestic model) could be slightly higher. + +>China lies about everything +And America doesn't? Everyone lies. + +>“Upgrading the Block 20s to a combat configuration is cost-prohibitive and very time intensive,” Moore testified. “Based on the most advanced weapons that an F-22 Block 20 can carry now, it is not competitive with the [Shenyang] J-20, with the most advanced weapons the Chinese can put on it.” + +https://www.airandspaceforces.com/f-22-credible-9-billion-air-force/ + +New jet is better than old jet. This isn't some crazy stretch of the imagination. +--- 57881338 +>>57880706 +Errr the Meteor could be considered as a counter, as well as the USAF speeding up the development of the Aim-260. + +It was only recently that the newer Aim-120's surpassed the Aim-54 Phoenix in absolute range. +--- 57881458 +>>57881331 +>How about you prove that it isn't good? +Not how it works. You and Chiner made the claim, you and Chiner prove it. + +>PL-15E (export model) is sold as being capable of up to 145km. PL-15 (domestic model) could be slightly higher. +>could +So, no evidence, then? 145km isn't great, and the AMRAAM is longer range. Especially the AIM-120D3. May I see the PL-15 hitting something at even 70 miles? + +>And America doesn't? Everyone lies. +What has the US lied about, exactly? If anything, the US downplays the true capabilities of their systems. + +>“Upgrading the Block 20s to a combat configuration is cost-prohibitive and very time intensive,” Moore testified. “Based on the most advanced weapons that an F-22 Block 20 can carry now, it is not competitive with the [Shenyang] J-20, with the most advanced weapons the Chinese can put on it.” +>https://www.airandspaceforces.com/f-22-credible-9-billion-air-force/ +See: >>57870252. Please educate yourself before posting. + +>New jet is better than old jet. This isn't some crazy stretch of the imagination. +It is? Proof? They still use an inferior copy of a 70s US core to power the J-20 because they can't into metallurgy. +--- 57881776 +>>57880694 +are you actually retarded? What will you say when you find out about (get spoonfed) the fucking feature rollout schedule and airframe changes in the JSF project? +--- 57881784 +>>57881458 +>and the AMRAAM is longer range. Especially the AIM-120D3 +where is the evidence? Show me a max range AMRAAM kill. +Mutt claim needs verification. +--- 57881800 +>>57868061 (OP) +translation: gibs moar money +--- 57881804 +>>57881784 +https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40184/f-15-eagle-scores-longest-known-air-to-air-missile-shot-during-u-s-air-force-test +Now, show me the PL-15 working. Just one test from the J-20 shooting it, please. +--- 57881835 +>>57881804 +>https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40184/f-15-eagle-scores-longest-known-air-to-air-missile-shot-during-u-s-air-force-test + +This was 150km at least if not nearly 200km. And a kill vs a maneuvering object +--- 57882248 +>>57870110 +Oh, and don't forget that J-20 is also a derivative of MiG 1.44 +--- 57882471 +>>57868061 (OP) +>is our girl obsolete now? +Good airframe is worthless if she lack modern sensors and network integration +--- 57882484 +>>57882248 +and the F/A-18 is a derivative of the F-18, which is a derivative of the F-5, which is a derivative of the ADM-20 Quail, which is a derivative of the XSM-73 Goose, which is a derivative of the +--- 57882505 +>>57882484 +Cope, seethe and mald, Chang. +--- 57882514 +>>57869849 +Your comments would be accurate 15 years ago. Nice try. + +>>57870364 +>>57882248 +Delusional +--- 57882530 +>>57882514 +--- 57882535 +>>57882514 +Watch out while shilling, an escalator might eat you if you're not careful. +--- 57882604 +>>57882530 +This is from a comedy skit, right? There's no way the floors can collapse and move in such a manner they look like they're held together with duct tape and square panels, right? +--- 57882621 +>>57882535 +More people dies of elevator in US than in China lol +--- 57882629 +>>57882604 +Chinese quality. +--- 57882705 +>>57882629 +I can understand this one since multi-level building but the other is outside where dirt is the foundation. Unless even their dirt foundation is absolute shit. +--- 57882711 +>>57882621 +I don't believe you. Post source +--- 57882737 +>>57882705 +Sinkholes form that exactly way: easily eroded soft foundation with a hard layer (road, concrete, etc.). +--- 57882753 +>>57881804 +>>57881835 +>57881835 + +The difference is that the 120D3 is in testing and not fielded in any reasonable number. And theres a reason they're developing the AIM-260. Theres just so much you can do with a legacy system. +At the very least the PL-15 is considered spooky enough to do something about it. Worse case scenario we end up with a missile on par or better than the chinks, best case the PL-15 ends up being a paper tiger and the US ends up with the best AA missile that gets sold everywhere. +--- 57882773 +>>57868061 (OP) +Americans are still living in 2010 kek, the only thing they've advanced at is mass shootings and tranny rights kekw +--- 57882795 +>>57882737 +>drives right into the hole +Damn that's some mindless drone behavior +--- 57882815 +>>57882753 +>The difference is that the 120D3 is in testing and not fielded in any reasonable number. +It also is a much better missile than the PL-15. I think the base AIM-120D is better than the PL-15. +>And theres a reason they're developing the AIM-260. +Not because of the PL-15. The AIM-120D alone out ranges it. +>Theres just so much you can do with a legacy system. +Like the PL-15? +>At the very least the PL-15 is considered spooky enough to do something about it. +Says who? +>Worse case scenario we end up with a missile on par or better than the chinks +We already have one: the AIM-120D. +>best case the PL-15 ends up being a paper tiger and the US ends up with the best AA missile that gets sold everywhere. +So, like it is now? +--- 57882827 +>>57882795 +That's what chinsects are, and why the WEF wants the rest of the world to be just like CCP run Chiner. +--- 57883365 +The PLA is a performing act and not /k/ +--- 57883936 +>>57882604 +It shows nip text at the top for a second +probably from some prank show +--- 57884029 +>>57868061 (OP) +probably means the bays are too small to carry the AIM 260's +--- 57884050 +>Guys we need more money or else China will become implessive +--- 57884094 +>>57868061 (OP) +see, vatnigs? Thats how big boys do corruption. +--- 57884111 +1980s +>OH NO GUIZE WE NEED MORE MONEY THOSE SOVIETS ARE SO FAR BEYOND US IN EVERY ASPECT WE ARE SO FUCKING FUCKED +>turns out its quite the opposite +2023 +>OH NO GUIZE WE NEED MORE MONEY THOSE CHINKS ARE SO FAR BEYOND US IN EVERY ASPECT WE ARE SO FUCKING FUCKED +--- 57884181 +>>57868061 (OP) +What does it mean to keep the F-22 "credible"? The strike eagle can outperform any soviet derivative fighter in BVR combat, how can the F-22 be anything but sufficient? +--- 57884209 +>>57868222 +Yeah, 9 billion really isn’t that much, all things considered +--- 57884229 +>>57884111 +fuck you i like cool war machines give them more money +--- 57884264 +>>57868061 (OP) +>$9b +why is it even a question then? it's literally fucking nothing +--- 57884265 +>>57884111 +This time, it's different +--- 57884643 +>>57884265 +Well that’s not good +What do? +--- 57884658 +>>57884643 +You know what must be done son. +--- 57884718 +>>57884111 +Well yeah, you want to be far ahead enough to curbstomp the enemy, not simply attrite the enemy by the skin of your teeth +--- 57884754 +>a whole thread of Chinese shills shrieking that there's nothing wrong with the US superiority fighter that's old enough to do MILF porn +--- 57884811 +>>57882795 +I mean they also like to drink a lot so that might not be a sober scooterist. +--- 57884843 +>>57870028 +>3 million a year per airframe. +Yeah that's pretty cheap considering how expensive it is to maintain military jets, let alone jets in general. +--- 57885278 +>>57870720 +Look at this bizarre cope propaganda saying that Chinese are one of the three elite wings of American society. It's very ham-fisted, and so salty. + +https://twitter.com/mssr_le_baron/status/1644188496418971648?s=46&t=c9dHL_Yh5TM4e8C5yhyVVw +--- 57885536 +>>57885278 +I have zero idea what you're trying to say or what the Twitter gibberish is trying to say +--- 57886579 +>>57868061 (OP) +> Air Force insisting we have to scrap what we have so they can buy all new pew pews. Eventually. + +Well, this has never happened before. +--- 57886632 +>>57878170 +>Is that why Russia and China shut the fuck up any time they are deployed within 100 miles of their shit hole countries? +Source? Sounds like bullshit +--- 57886801 +>>57871396 +>And I'm not even touching on the de facto caste system implemented by the city tier regulations. +Elaborate? + +>>57876446 +>a major corp chairman isn't treated the same as some random plebeian, news at 11 +--- 57886813 +>>57878170 +I thought it was because monke made a nuclear test and the misslie fizzled? +--- 57886884 +how is it that china is supposedly catching up to us when we spend more on defense than the next 10 countries combined? the MIC racket should be burned to the ground +--- 57887055 +>>57886884 +Purchasing power parity. Stuff's cheaper there so their money goes further. +The US also spends on force projection while China spends on "get those carriers and AWACS/tankers off of me!" which makes the spending asymmetric. +There's also the inherent expectations creating a double-standard: China catching up to the US doesn't mean they'd be able to Desert Storm 1991 Iraq. It means they can prevent from being Desert Stormed themselves. Which for practical purposes is all that matters, +--- 57887094 +>>57886632 +All Xi, the CCP, and Chiner can do when the US slaps its dick on the world is seethe and cope. Seethe and cope. China's military is no match for the US military in a direct conflict. Even the CCP will admit this, hence them going with the asymmetric warfare strategy called Unrestricted Warfare written by two colonels in the People's Liberation Army (PLA), Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui to attack the US. They admit they would get steamrolled in a hot war with the US military, as the US is the sole superpower on earth with no direct peers to contest its spot. Keep coping, Dong "Brian" Tu Smol. +--- 57887128 +>>57870767 +What you are referring to is the JL-7/8 +JF-17 is in a weird place where, it's not a copy of anything and took influence from everything. +Super Sabre project then to an F-20 analogous then elements of the single engined Mig finally to what is now the pencil shaped JF-17 +--- 57887265 +>>57887055 +>Purchasing power parity. Stuff's cheaper there so their money goes further. +How is that when estimates put the J-20 at $120 million USD per unit costs? The J-20 costs $40 million more than an F-35A. All while having shittier engines, radar, avionics, sensors, sensor fusion, stealth, and IR signature. +--- 57887312 +>>57887265 +Kek. I wouldn't be surprised if their MIC extortion is magnitudes worse than ours. +--- 57887467 +>>57880628 + +Anon, if this was for black projects, it would be a lot more than only $9 Billion. $9 Billion isn't a lot of money to a military that spends over $750 Billion per year, especially considering how valuable the F-22 is, that's cheap. +--- 57887600 +What's the likelihood of USAF bankrupting the entire military when it builds ONE (and only one) fighter that can destroy the rest of the world by itself. + +Dare I say the Gundam of fighter planes. +--- 57887670 +>>57884754 +oldest f-22 isn't even 30 years old yet +--- 57887684 +>>57887265 +The F-35 is produced in a larger scale. +Defense spending vs unitary costs are totally different metrics. +--- 57887711 +>>57882629 +Honestly props to that dude for reacting that fast. Most people would have ate shit in that situation. +--- 57887975 +>>57887684 +It proves that PPP is a shit metric to go by, and that the J-20 costs $40 million USD more than an F-35A while being inferior in every way to it. That's not adding in the R&D, and IP theft used to produce it along with paying the Israelis for helping make the AESA radar for it. If it's so much cheaper to design, produce, and build in Chiner thanks to PPP, why, then, can they not mass produce them like the F-35? Makes zero sense to me, no? +--- 57888004 +>>57887975 +PPP is a good measure for living standards in a city but a really bad measure for the economic power of a country. Rent and food are cheaper in Uganda but fighter jets stay the same price. +--- 57888022 +>>57888004 +the more valuable and high tech something gets, the less the price changes due to purchasing power +turns out anything that takes western wages to make requires western prices +--- 57888139 +>>57886884 +They don't have to spend money chasing down dead ends and can instead just try to copy what the US has already proven to be successful. Of course, this means they lack of lot of knowledge of why things work and why they don't, which leads to funny moments like that video of the Chinese ship with the bulkhead that swings in instead of out, but does mean cost savings in the meantime. +--- 57888310 +>>57887265 +Sure J-20 is worse than F-35 only retards disagree. + +The thing is chinks went from being 3rd world shithole with african living standards to being the second country capable of making working 5th gen planes that are just a bit worse in what 20 years? + +They also have more people and manufacturing capability than entire West combined. +--- 57890660 +>>57869999 +>it can be retired after that + +Sold to Australia and NATO members, assuming they don't get NGAD +--- 57891186 +>>57886801 +nta but you can figure out some interesting things about the level of nepotism, classism, and dystopian fuckery that goes on in china through their light novels. +Its easy to joke that they took Russian corruption and sought to surpass it by mixing it with their complex social structure. +Have a run in with the police? +All that ever seems to matter is who is richer and has more connections. +How you are doing at school is part of that, as is how you dress and how pretty you are. +To them that is normal. +And their government monitors their LN and cracks down on things THEY think makes them look bad. +So its telling that they see NOTHING wrong with their society being depicted this way. +Its utterly normal to them. diff --git a/k/57869330.txt b/k/57869330.txt index 0a0d123aee0952d299783aa52b0584e4cd1371c5..ff9f38e606034fcd6384498c8bf690c35a1b50b9 100644 --- a/k/57869330.txt +++ b/k/57869330.txt @@ -525,3 +525,174 @@ Assasination of Ru ambassador Andrey Kharlov by Turkish police officer. Missed t --- 57878597 >>57870560 did you watch OP's video my nigga +--- 57880604 +>>57874932 +Yeah, he was the only thing keeping JSP from falling apart, but that was mostly delaying the inevitable. But at least Yasushi Nagao got 1960 World Press Photo of the Year award and the 1961 Pulitzer Prize +--- 57882273 +>>57874497 +>WHY GARY? WHY? +--- 57884687 +>>57878367 +>>57874313 +Such a surreal moment. The photos and memes coming out of this were crazy. +--- 57885285 +>>57869848 +Collect +--- 57885306 +>>57869848 +>Chinese islands +No such thing exists. +--- 57885500 +>>57869848 +>Then Abe and his party took control + +What? 20 years ago? At least that long for Abe. But LDP had been running the show for almost the entire post war period. +--- 57886757 +>>57869640 +--- 57886833 +>>57873527 +That's still fucking vomit you retard +--- 57886923 +>>57878166 +At the time of the murder, Yamaguchi had a note in his pocket that read: + +You, Inejirō Asanuma, are making Japan communist. I have no resentment towards you personally as a person with a leadership role in the socialist party but to your onus, your outbursts when you visited China, and the responsibility you bear for the intrusion into the National Diet. I cannot let go of your unforgivable actions. I shall hereby be the one to bring down your divine punishment. + +Based +--- 57886997 +>>57886923 +>and the responsibility you bear for the intrusion into the National Diet +/fit/pilled, keep the gains coming +--- 57887135 +>>57871185 +Youre absolutely right. It should be 25. Also that should be the voting age as well. Also if you don't own property you shouldn't be allowed to vote on issues that would raise property taxes. +--- 57887581 +>>57872561 +why does dude behind killer have 3 legs? +--- 57887597 +>>57886757 +>entropy btfo +--- 57887618 +considering they just had a former PM get shot under their watch less than a year ago i imagine they're all hyper alert. +--- 57887649 +>>57869640 +>oh, look at me, I leave the house and have a job +--- 57887698 +>>57869614 +It works. White people woudn't understand, all they're capable of is writing angry comments on the internet. +--- 57887714 +>>57886757 +This has to be the result of a poltergeist +--- 57887765 +>>57887698 +Meanwhile a former president is being tried for inciting Americans to go to DC and make congress shit piss and cum their pants in fear +>inb4 you bring up the old lady who was shot by glowniggers +Yeah and a pig was trampled to death, so I consider it an even trade +--- 57887851 +>>57887698 +>It works. brown people woudn't understand, all they're capable of is writing angry comments on the internet. +ftfy +--- 57887953 +>>57869614 +political violence by small groups/individuals has a long history in Japan probably for various historical and cultural reasons weebs can complain about +--- 57888067 +>>57872653 +So I have long held that Booth; who was a Jew–killed Lincoln on behalf of traitors in the north and bankers in Europe. Not on behalf of the Confederacy. +I also believe that he had help from within Lincoln's inner circle. +There is no way you can get me believe that you can fight the biggest conflict in history to that date, and expect that nobody is going to try and sneak up on the leadership of one of those forces. +Maybe Abe was the same +--- 57888328 +>>57887597 +Maxwell's Demon: "We do a little trolling" +--- 57889125 +>>57869810 +You'd be surprised how being truthful to an absurd degree gets you out of a lot of things. +Like I took a trip to Japan and brought back probably $3000 worth of anime/hentai, declared everything, calculated the conversion rate ahead of time and got the same amount as the custom's officer did, while asking if the box of Calorie Mates I also got would be considered a restricted item since it was food. +I was well over the duty limit and expected to have to pay money, but the custom officer just said I didn't have to pay anything and I saved several hundred dollars. +--- 57889245 +>>57878166 +It boils down to the kid being butthurt, along with the rest of the far right ultra nationalists over the fact that Asanuma got the right wing PM at the time, Nobusuke Kishi, to resign as a result of the Anpo protests against the 1960 U.S.-Japan Security Treaty. +--- 57889281 +>>57888067 +Based non relevant question answerer +--- 57889306 +>>57887765 +Coup d'etats are generally frowned upon when done by a guy who wants to install himself as a dictator. Although the aftermath does show how America is uniquely corrupt because in just about any other country, Trump would already have been prosecuted for his both his soft coup plots leading up to Jan 6th, and the the coup on Jan 6th. +--- 57889312 +>>57889125 +Based, that reminds me of a time I bought a "12 pack of Warsteiners" not realizing it was one of the shipping boxes for the pint bottles. +So I bought a crate of pint bottles for the price of a 12 pack of normal 12.7 oz beers. I took the receipt to customer service the next day, and it was manned by a teenager who looked like he couldn't give less of a shit and he told me to just take em, I still felt bad, but I didn't feel like I should press the manner lest he get in trouble too. +--- 57889349 +>>57872561 +reminder +--- 57889355 +>>57885285 +Severely underrated post. +--- 57889374 +>>57889306 +>Coup d'etats +Lmfao +He just tweeted (as he always does) for them to gather in DC, and they decided to get rowdy (remember that his twitter was silenced immediately after) +If it was an actual coup, there'd be a lot of (justifiably) dead congressmen, and people like AOC would actually be able to truthfully claim they got PTSD from it lol +--- 57889407 +>>57889349 +>h-he wasn't even that popular +Lmao, commie cope, also >>57875004 +--- 57889411 +>>57889374 +Incompetently executed coups are still coups, ask the Japanese. +--- 57889444 +>>57889411 +>it's a coup because I said so +Lol +--- 57889468 +>>57889444 +The group that studies coups says it was a coup. +https://clinecenter.illinois.edu/coup-detat-project/statement_dec.15.2022 +What you're doing is called a cope d'etat. +--- 57889517 +>>57889407 +>j-j-japan was totally gonna get taken over by the commies guys!!!!! +underage +--- 57889525 +>>57889517 +Whomst've are you quoting? +--- 57889533 +>>57889468 +>The group that studies coups +--- 57889538 +>>57889525 +>Whomst've +ukraine tourist +--- 57889542 +>>57889533 +>Still doing a cope d'etat +--- 57889545 +>>57889538 +>being this new +--- 57889549 +>>57889538 +Concession've accepted've +--- 57889664 +>>57889374 +That shit really does need to happen more often, politicians need to be constantly fearing for their lives. These fuckstains need to be reminded who they work for. +--- 57889962 +>>57873527 +Scat porn is all fake, its usually chocolate with peanut butter mixed up in a blender, its why its all weirdly creamy and orange. +--- 57890134 +>>57869916 +>Ridge +He deserves to rot in prison. +--- 57890174 +>>57869848 +>chinese islands +--- 57890191 +>>57869942 +That could have been poop, you wacko. +--- 57890274 +>>57887698 +what were the assassins goals +--- 57890884 +>>57875751 +Why the fuck would that be better? They escaped unharmed. Bodyguards aren't suicidal. +It would've been best to just kick the thing since that would get it gone faster than hitting it with the briefcase. diff --git a/k/57870499.txt b/k/57870499.txt index d5562ae5f1cf13fa244679c5701f9b3c8155f510..84d434b8d1727bff5922386b56dec82374a1b461 100644 --- a/k/57870499.txt +++ b/k/57870499.txt @@ -627,15 +627,6 @@ France sent a lot more than that. The air space thing was due to Britain not planning in advance and it thus being faster to take an indirect route than asking Germany for permission to ship arms over German air space every time. If anything that's a sign of bad british beaurocracy/logistics. Honestly surprised you didn't bring up that bullshit about Germany only sending helmets, it's about on the same level as everything else you wrote. You've presumably been on /k/ for about a year at least even if you're a war tourist, how did you manage to still believe that? ---- 57879413 ->>57871937 ->France partners up with Britain ->projects end up fine ->France partners up with Italy ->projects end up fine ->France partners up with Germany ->total shitshow -have you thought that maybe krautniggers are the problem? Germany is that one country that thinks nuclear should go before coal and has been keeping Putin's leash around Europe's neck just ti save their dying industry (which is going to China anyway LMAO) --- 57879452 >>57879413 >/pol/posting nonsense like this on /k/ @@ -655,3 +646,498 @@ also funny you're mentioning Putin when France literally sold thermals to Russia --- 57879537 >>57879526 I'd bet my left nut sack that the guy isn't French. +--- 57879887 +>>57879537 +/k/ needs flags +--- 57879946 +>joint venture between any country and Germany +>Germans immediately want to scale down and cut costs to save shekels +>French want the best so they don't back down +>stalemate +yeah, sounds about right +--- 57879965 +>>57879946 +>joint venture between any country and France +>France wants the entire project to be done by French companies and paid for by the others +>others tell them to fuck off +>frogfaggots and their cocksuckers like (You) screech +--- 57880013 +>>57879965 +I am willing to bet my arm that they forced the French to adopt that shitty main rifle because of joint ventures. +--- 57880034 +>>57879946 +>>57880013 +Obvious falseflag. +I don't even like frogs and have actively disliked every single surrendernigger I've ever had to interact with and you still couldn't fool me. +--- 57880062 +>>57880034 +No, they had everything down to even reusing Renault factories. +--- 57880158 +>>57880013 +oh yeah, private VW trying to sell cars in Russia is totally the same as the French state selling Russia thermals for tanks and helicopter carriers + +and France bought the HK416 bc it's the best rifle as proven by SOF all around the world, quit coping you stinking cheesenigger +--- 57880185 +>>57872955 +>Well, that's just not nice. +No. That is just cooperation with French. For French a partner means client. Cooperation is you buying French shit and France getting all the economic and industrial benefits. You getting none. + +>>57873025 +You carrier is a LHD with a fucking ramp. It isn't big enough for Rafale or navalized Eurofighter. +>>57873320 +>And that's why USA businesses keep acting entitled and saying it's a done deal. +FCAS is not going to be ready when your Hornets have no flight hours left. For Hornet replacement realistic alternatives are F-35 or more Eurofighters. Rafale brings pretty much nothing to table that Eurofighter doesn't provide, so we can safely count that out. For Harrier replacement, it is either loss of fixed wing carrier aviation or F-35. +--- 57880217 +>>57880158 +>private VW trying to sell cars in Russia +by occupying Renault factories in a sanctioned state. +>French state selling Russia thermals for tanks and helicopter carriers +Thales isn't a state company. +So you are basically saying "yeah, when people I like do something, based, when people I don't like do the same, cringe". +>HK416 bc it's the best rifle as proven by SOF +The VHS-2 and the HK were almost identical but the decision to adopt the HK rifle was political, per French state. +--- 57880291 +>>57880217 +all weapon sales require the consent of the state you dumb nigger +--- 57880402 +>>57880291 +You know what I mean. +--- 57880427 +>>57871937 +Reminder France is actually the one pushing for technological improving inside the tank meanwhile Germany just want a new leopard that they can mass produce. +And that's why the leclerc is superior to the leopard +--- 57880507 +>>57880402 +yes and you're wrong +--- 57880556 +>>57880427 +Ok +--- 57880664 +>>57880556 +I can draw too! +--- 57880718 +>>57870499 (OP) +>>57870512 +>>57870526 +WHat happens if I shoot some HE shell at the turret? Won't that knock out all the sensors and bells and whistles? +--- 57880746 +>>57880718 +You can try. +--- 57881064 +why didn't krauts/frogs want pooland to join the project? their economy might be mediocre but they have plenty of people and plenty of reason to want a great tank in a reasonable time-frame +instead they now fucked off to buy abrams and south korean gear (of all things) +--- 57881192 +>>57873697 +>not like germany is doing too hot either +germany has made so many small blunders in the last 20 years that there's a lot of cracks showing up nowadays +take the energy. shutting down nuclear because muh environment we'll just use russian oil and renewables, we're good at those +-> hoooo there's a lot of money opening turnkey factories in china, let's gooooo ez money +-> oh shit chinks stole all our shit, better just, uh, give up? +-> oh shit we need coal, the worst kind of coal +-> oh shit why is everything so expensive +(also where's all the fucking money from all those factories we outsourced to china, we wuz supposed to be rich, not outcompeted with our own stolen tech) + +They need a good kick in the dick but instead things just slowly degrade over time and those louses do nothing but bitch and watch the footy. +Granted, frogs being frogs and poles having abysmal populist government that screeches about them all day to garner political support at home (like bongs before) is a pain, but they're not even trying +--- 57881268 +>>57881064 +See >>57878940 +>>57872896 +Tldnr: Poland is the fat blue haired girl of the arms industry. +--- 57881295 +>>57870499 (OP) +>>57870512 +>>57870526 +You can tell we live the future because actual hardware is starting to look like RTS units. +--- 57881318 +>>57870499 (OP) +it smells like amx in here +--- 57881339 +>>57874640 +>If German and France reject to defend Poland, USA won't do that too +u wot +more like USA decides whether krauts and frogs "decide" to defend poland or not +NATO does as USA says +--- 57881352 +>>57870986 +>German Industry: "I AM THE BEST, GIVE ME THE MONEY!!!" +Undeniable fact +>French Industry: " NO, I AM THE BEST, GIVE ME THE MONEY!!!" +Lmao. It's like the the guy who is the poorest and did nothing demanding the flute +--- 57881386 +>>57881339 +>NATO does as USA says +That didn't work out in the middle east. +--- 57881388 +>>57873025 +>Naval Eurofighters +The Luftwaffe is working on them too because of an US request or something +--- 57881403 +>>57881386 +because it was some arab shithole and us wasn't interested in investing more social capital in getting others there, especially since they didn't really need them +I'm fairly sure european countries care more about countries that are in europe and a member of their little bureaucratic nightmare +--- 57881426 +>>57873025 +Isn't Morocco close enough that jets could take off from Spain? +--- 57881470 +>>57881388 +Source? First time I'm hearing of this. +--- 57881550 +>>57881470 +It’s just a rumor but there will be a squadron that’s supposed to be able to operate on American CVs. This came up because of the indo pacific operation last or this year iirc. It’s an offer by the US navy +--- 57881559 +>>57881388 +Imagine falling for an April fools joke this obvious. +--- 57881576 +>>57881550 +Very interesting, but seems like a waste of money desu. +--- 57881588 +>>57881352 +>German industry +Reminder the last jet fighter designed and built in Germany by German engineers to come off the factory floor did so in 1945. +--- 57881670 +>>57881588 +The EF Typhoon came out in 1945? Damn +--- 57881678 +>>57881670 +>designed by German engineers +Lmao. +Thanks for proving my point. +--- 57881690 +>>57881678 +You are welcome. +--- 57881696 +>>57870923 +>Why are French-German projects always so slow +They both speak different languages +--- 57881714 +>>57881386 +It did right up until German weapons started melting +--- 57881829 +Why are Franco-German projects so shit? What are the odds on FCAS collapsing? +--- 57881914 +>>57873363 +Good for Spain. Relying on foreign countries is not good. Air power is important. +--- 57881932 +>>57881670 +Friendly reminder that Germany was not involved in EAP. +--- 57882117 +>>57872850 +>I wonder why Poland was not allowed to participate in this project? +Polish MIC isn't completely worthless but it's pretty underwhelming for anything more complex than a rifle or mayyybe an IFV (maybe). +If they were taken it'd be more of a charity case, but Germany doesn't want somebody that permanently shits on them to score political points and France couldn't possibly give less of a shit about Poland and prefers them as weak as possible and only used for cheap labor. +Hence being US lapdog for security and looking for alternatives abroad when it comes to tech, like Korea +--- 57882301 +>>57881932 +Thanks +--- 57882668 +>>57881352 +Germany has laughable aerospace and naval industries compared to France +--- 57883076 +A lot of weird cope here. + +>muh politicians +>Muh lack of competence +>Koreans are... le bad + +Does KMW salesmen really believe that their patronising attitude didn't made them lost a market for 1200 tanks? +--- 57883508 +>>57883076 +there isn't a single timeline where Poland would have bought 1200 Leos +--- 57883535 +>>57879336 +Literally you have wrong information. Germany did not commit to sending weapons in a meaningful amount until America strong armed the fuck out of Germany. ALso Geramny hasn't contributed in a meaningful way yet just promised to. Retarded faggot ESL kid lol. Try to get a better grasp of things. +--- 57883559 +>>57870499 (OP) +Is there a name for the shade of brown? +--- 57883582 +>>57879887 +Then we wouldnt get the massive butthurt faggot no guns no nods no gear trolls who never reveal their pathetic country as part of their troll and these gay political discussions about Ukraine would be made worse by emboldened euros with their faggot no guns flags waving around. This is an American board and polite gun owning euros can chime in when necessary. +--- 57883588 +>>57870499 (OP) +Who even needs it? Just produce the kf51 panther en masse +--- 57883650 +>>57883559 +>brown +That's green +--- 57883663 +>>57883650 +I meant the shade of brown on the tank in OP's post +--- 57883677 +so what happened to the US tank replacement program DLP? +--- 57883724 +>>57883559 +>>57883663 +Looks like RAL7013, it's a very common shade of brown/green in European militaries. +--- 57883735 +>>57883724 +Brown/gray, I mean. +--- 57883822 +>>57870499 (OP) +get fucked krauts i cant wait for germany to become a turkish colony id rather kill myself than have to use another of their shitty designs +>>57872269 +based pajeet i have to work wiht an hk416 everyday and it makes me suicidal (also hurts my eyes, one of the worst looking ar) +>>57872252 +>Leopard 2 is much more successful than Leclerc anyway. +lmao seethe and dilate faggot +>>57872293 +turns out france only bought it cuz they were sucking merkel hard time and cuz the president got a fat stack of money in exchange of this decision +everyone in the french army hates it compared to the famas, beside the comfort of being more practical to some extent the famas feels way better in every other way +>>57871335 +post for 2008 btfo retard nowadays we got about 400 leclercs and 60% of it operational and i dont think we got any lef tin liban +sold a few to UAE and they performed fine + +yall are coping so hard and im so happy this is failing +Nexter ascalon on the Leclerc lets fucking gooooo +--- 57883851 +>>57873211 +>So if a Franco-Polish conflict ever were to occur + +What are you smoking +--- 57883887 +>>57883851 +reverse anschluss, somebody has to defend krauts +--- 57883896 +>>57870642 +>because France is a shit partner + +>be bing bong +>enter a AJAX +>go deaf + +It's peak bong bing engineering +--- 57883900 +>>57883896 +>>enter a AJAX +-50 rubble +--- 57884003 +>>57870808 +Nope. Even omitting the fact it's not finished project, and Germany industry can't provide it in numbers (Norway ordered 53 Leo2A7 with delivery ending in 2031). It would be just expensive and non standard platform +--- 57884176 +>>57882668 +>>57881588 +And how exactly are jet fighters related to tanks? +--- 57884402 +>>57883677 +Decision was supposed to be made last month, though apparently it was contentious and the requirements board couldn't come to a consensus. +--- 57884447 +>>57883896 +The AJAX is a Spanish-Bong cooperative venture. +Both known for producing world class machinery and weapons! +Just look at how strong their automobile industries are! And they have amazing reputations for solid engineering and quality manufacturing! +--- 57884581 +>>57881388 +Cable arresting gear is pretty standard solution even outside of naval fighters. It usually just isn't beefy enough for daily use, but it is alternative to drag chute. +--- 57885063 +>>57881403 +More like America had no way to pressure Europe. +Freedom fries were the only thing they had going for themselves. +--- 57885091 +>>57883535 +Lmao +Only America sent more actual weaponry, anon. +--- 57885106 +>>57883822 +kys +--- 57885124 +>>57883851 +I'm not the one who thought it was possible,I responded to somebody who did. Frogs barely acknowledge the existence of Poland. +--- 57885138 +>>57884003 +The german industry produces the most tanks in the developed world by far and the norwegian deliveries will only take 2 years. 2031 is the date for the support vehicles and so on. +But I'm sure you know that and just tried lying about it. +--- 57885218 +>>57883822 + +i love the sound of french seething after they failed to steal german know how +--- 57885265 +>>57885218 +Reminds me of an older colleague of mine who visited France and found a lathe they stole after WWI as "reparations" still being used there in a factory. +Not sure if that's a statement on the quality of old German tools or new French tools though. +--- 57885310 +>>57885265 +thats called french budget welcome on board here on the right you can see our 60's GB8KT being repurposed and still used to this day +on the left you can see the radios from the 80's that weight a dead donkey and we still use daily +if you look at it closer you can see the same old rusty vabs being repainted to look (and only look) brand new since the new griffons have been delayed yet again for 2030 +>>57885218 +cope harder nignog +germany sure is good at trying to design 4000 different vehicles a year no ones ever gonna use anyway and only countries with a virtually useless military is gonna buy cuz they got no industry +--- 57885337 +>>57885218 +they don't want to steal know how, they want to steal German money for their own shitty projects bc they're cheap niggers +--- 57885355 +>>57885310 +>no ones ever gonna use anyway and only countries with a virtually useless military is gonna buy cuz they got no industry +post Leclerc operators +--- 57885422 +>>57885355 +How does the boxer map look like? +--- 57885423 +>>57885355 +dman thats the map of leos im assuming +ok now lets see which countries actually used it +>it exports so it's obviously the best +lmao aight bro on that map less than 5 countries actually used it, ukies dont count since evryone is throwing everything they have at them +--- 57885425 +>>57881426 +And that's precisely why Spain is making programs to update the Harrier well past the point where it's outdated as fuck. (Seriously) Juan Carlos I and its planes only exist for dick measuring and maybe beating pirates in NATO missions. Which is also why seeing naval F-35s there is the only conceivable appearance of the plane. But even then: +>>57880185 +Did I mention the Hornets? No. Wanna know why? Because they WILL be replaced by Eurofighters. This isn't speculation. The Halcón project will replace all of them with Eurofighters, this is already sealed. The only non-Eurofighter plane Spain is considering buying is the Harrier replacement. And even then, during the Halcón 2 program to be signed in 2023 they're only considering buying one single unit of a SVTOL fighter for the plane carrier as a stopgap until FCAS. This is the only point at which Spain may add 1 single F-35. And yet, when Cantera was told about the obvious fact the F-35 is the only existing plane which can fill that role, she said: +> "El F-35 Bravo es un avión puramente estadounidense. Tal compra no sirve para Europa. La autonomía estratégica es importante no solo (...)" +Which roughly translates as +>"FUCK NO, FUCK USA, GET FUCKED." +And then she went on a weird tirade about inovation and new technologies. Same thing that happened when USA businesses in 2021 anounced we were totally gonna buy 50 F-35-B planes. Every time this convo starts Spain chimps the fuck out. This has left us with no clear answer as to wtf is Spain even supposed to do. Speculations are: +1-Cantera is just lying because she knows whoever breaks that news is politically dead. (Seriously.) +2-Given that Spain has beaten the drum of making naval eurofighters multiple times, the money is indeed for a naval eurofighter. Even if it makes no sense and they have to butcher it into being useless. +3-They have made a hush deal with some other european nation (most likely candidate being France) for adapting one of their planes. +--- 57885462 +>>57885422 +likely to further expand +guess who uses the VBCI besides France +hint: nobody +>>57885423 +weak cope +--- 57885553 +>>57885425 +You were sperging out yesterday about how some pointless, irrelevant war in the 1950s totally embittered the Spanish airforce to US aircraft, even though they continued buying them for decades. Aviation Week already confirmed the F-35 purchase, it's over. +--- 57885580 +>>57885553 +>it's over. +no, it's a 100% reasonable and good decision for Spain, he's just an autist. +--- 57885586 +>>57882668 +Except those stats were only so good because France was taking over Russian sales (and specially sales to Russia) post 2014 and specially on the very noticeable 2018 peak. And yet if you check further, French arms industry is now in serious issues, having fallen since said peak, and specially in 2020, past which it has been surpassed not only by Germany, but also China, Italy, Spain, South Korea and possibly funniest, Netherlands. +Bitch since Putin couldn't keep bankrolling your egotrips your industry is so weak its getting beaten by a bunch of tulip munching potheads in a country a fourth your size. Germany may brag a tad too much but compared to you they're god damned saints. +--- 57885624 +>>57885553 +Hmmm lets actually read what aviation week said: +>Spain is set to acquire additional Eurofighters and an unnamed fifth-generation fighter–likely the F-35–as part of a new program to replace the country’s aging McDonnell Douglas EF-18 Hornets. + +The Halcon 2 program will acquire 25 Eurofighters and later a fifth-generation fighter, says Revista de Aeronautica y Astronautica, the Spanish Air Force’s in-house publication. +https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/aircraft-propulsion/spain-planning-phased-fighter-acquisition +Ah... so it says exactly what I said. Yet you claim I'm the autist. Have you considered using a mirror. +--- 57885678 +>>57885624 +It says they're getting the F-35 to replace part of the F-18s, which is exactly what you said wouldn't happen. +--- 57885684 +>>57870499 (OP) +What current next gen things is deutchistan actually even working on lmao? Nothing? +--- 57885729 +>>57885684 +Your mom, the next gen whore. +--- 57885739 +>>57885729 +So nothing +--- 57885740 +>>57885586 +>dutch supremacy +Kek +The country is cute as an idea, but it makes me want to annex them. Is that how hollywood execs (jewish (derogatory)) feel around children? +--- 57885785 +>>57885678 +Ok let me put keywords in caps see if you can get it that way: +It says AT A LATER DATE they're getting AND UNNAMED FIFTH GEN FIGHTER (LIKELY f-35, meaning the F-35 mention is purely an american press speculation, not a spanish anouncement.) through the Halcón 2 program which is still being debated. And as I mentioned when Spain was asked after this was published, Cantera's (the spokeperson) response was, and I quote: +>"El F-35 Bravo es un avión puramente estadounidense. Tal compra no sirve para Europa. La autonomía estratégica es importante no solo (...)" +Or in other words, NO. +Furthermore as I mentioned the F-18s will be replaced part through Halcón 1 (which will get only eurofighters) and the other half through the 25 eurofighters in Halcón 2. The fifth gen fighter is only considered for SVTOL, something Aviation Week doesn't mention but the article they're quoting does. +When your sources are a single paragraph long's summary of another source, you should try reading their source. F-35s aren't even considered as replacement for the F-18s. That's why only the F-35B is even mentioned as an option on the press (and not the original article.) Try some reading comprehension. +--- 57885851 +>>57885785 +I think I'll take AviationWeek over "guy who thinks Spain vowed to never buy US aircraft again right before they bought the F-4" +--- 57885924 +>>57885851 +And you'll take their speculation over both the official spanish air force document and the official response by their spokesperson to those articles too, apparently. +You do you, buddy. +--- 57885957 +>>57885851 +>>57885924 +Lel rekt +--- 57885974 +>>57885462 +yeah call me when any of those countries projects as much as france lately +--- 57886019 +>>57884447 +>they have amazing reputations for solid engineering and quality manufacturing +Yes actually +--- 57886086 +>>57870499 (OP) +I have to work with frogs semi-regularly. +They are the most stubborn about the dumbest even when they are obviously wrong but always do the +>let me hear your opinion honhonhon +First. So you list options on what could be done and they just keep saying no unless you guess what THEY wanted to do all along, wasting everybody's fucking time and if you ask them they sometimes pretend they're not sure. +At the end they'll insist on their opinion for the most retarded reasons imaginable so you either have to out rank them, get around them or accept that you'll deliver a sub-par product because they wanted some retarded shit in there they came up with. +The pay is a bit over 100 bucks an hour when I work with the frogs but I'm genuinely considering to quit over this shit, it's just not worth it to work with these retards and they seem completely unable to learn when faced with customer feedback which ends up pointing out the exact shit I mentioned half a year before. +FUCK +Is that normal there or did I just get a couple of genuine autists? That shit weighs on me, especially when they come with stuff they need help with and then just ignore the clear solutions I offer because they'd rather wait a month for customer support to get back at them via fucking email. +Why do they even ask then? +--- 57886093 +>>57885974 +Project what? Getting kicked out by your own colony? +--- 57886145 +>>57886086 +I dealt with frogs too, can confirm, this is 100% how the ones I dealt with were. Even worse, I was supposed to be their guide and translator, but whenever I tried to explain to them how to file shit the right way they would do that. Like fuck I don't care how bureaucracy works in france these are legal documents and this is not france either you file them like the template says or you'll just get a rejection you dumbfuck! God damn. Wtf is wrong with these people. So yeah either we're dealing with the same batch or the entire country is just full of idiots. Never again, never again. +--- 57886390 +>>57886145 +Fuck that, I'll demand that somebody else handles them, I don't care enough about the bonus, if my boss refuses I'll start applying elsewhere and quit ASAP. +It's just not worth it, makes me feel like playing Dota with retards did 13 years ago when I was a teenager. Getting angry at strangers is dumb as fuck. +Fuck them. +--- 57886937 +>>57886093 +read the news, france said they were going out of maly cuz it was going nowhere and the govt was being a pain in the ass, the next day malis govt said they were kicking france out +and now theyre drowning in shit +--- 57888938 +Man, why the fuck europeans are so incompetent with modern tech? Even indians seem to be more competent than them. +--- 57889787 +>>57888938 +>Even indians seem to be more competent than them +Indians don't have any modern technology, pajeet. +--- 57890163 +>>57886019 +No. The Bongs keep bragging about that, but the only people who think bong engineering is in any way respected are the bongs themselves. +Bongistan hasn't been an engineering powerhouse since the 19th century. +--- 57890190 +>>57870512 +does it have enough turrets? +--- 57890207 +>>57872480 +>>57872558 +it does look a lot like the Jaguars turret +--- 57890255 +>>57890163 +Any examples because when I think of their stuff it's usually pretty good. +--- 57891362 +>>57873604 +>>57873819 +Tempest and GCAP are two different projects. Japan had to sign agreements with both Italy and Britain when the swap to GCAP happened. As such Sweden just didn't renew their membership on the new project. Regardless, Sweden was only interested in the loyal wingman of the program and wanted to integrate the final product into their Gripens. +--- 57891388 +frogs have a truly awful middle managerial classes that make everything ineffective as hell +--- 57891403 +>>57885425 +>(Seriously) Juan Carlos I and its planes only exist for dick measuring and maybe beating pirates in NATO missions +blowing up invading boats of human smugglers, uh, refugees is a valid use case. carlos is a bit of an overkill for it tho +--- 57891445 +>>57891403 +Personally I prefer small arms in their floatation device so the killer whales can get their meals. +--- 57891456 +>>57891445 +huh, til +--- 57891457 +>>57890255 +NTA but all of their tanks except one. +--- 57891471 +>>57880718 +nah thats why theyre so expensive, fags will be like "oh you can buy second gen french optics on the open market for cheap" but they arent ruggedized for actual combat conditions etc. and MBT optics are +--- 57891533 +>>57891457 +From what I recall the challenger is a pretty good tank, missing more modern upgrades like APS sure. +--- 57891592 +>>57891456 +Yeah, and they've been attacking small boats. +--- 57891603 +>>57891533 +Wasn't good when it came out and was tested in different trials and hasn't become good since so why would it be good? +It's claim to fame is being able to tank shitty RPGs shot by sandnogs which AFVs can do nowadays. +--- 57891613 +>>57891603 +>RPGs +Where'd that S come from? diff --git a/k/57870929.txt b/k/57870929.txt index 523db63ebeb361b8ccb96fa2e53ad9ed10f743f1..c7abd877b86816c12b034790224ae11711463117 100644 --- a/k/57870929.txt +++ b/k/57870929.txt @@ -694,3 +694,173 @@ france was literally the only user because they needed everything they could get they trialed them, found they werent worth the effort, and quietly scrapped them the panzer IV literally saw more action than the panther after a few were sold to syria and then got blow up by M50 shermans the hetzer was used more than the panther was, with a few built post war +--- 57880416 +>>57879628 +>Trialled them +French used the Panther for a few years akshually in 2 regiments +France is the exception because they wanted to restart their whole tank industry after sitting out the war and shitting the ARL44 as a stop gap which is why their AMX50 programme takes inspiration from the German designs, like the overlapping wheels and engine. +Even then the AMX50 programme screeched to a halt when French dreams of selling it to Europeans were dashed by the Americans dumping M47s on everybody including the themselves. +>Panzer IV +Czechs were contracted to support the Syrian Panzer IVs like refurbishing engines and installing adapters for the 12.7mm dshka +--- 57880683 +>>57880416 +>only one user even interested in panthers +>other german vehicles found a home somwhere yet the panther remained mothballed +almost like it wasnt worth the time and effort to use +--- 57880868 +>>57870929 (OP) +It doesnt even look ahead of its time. +--- 57880903 +>>57880683 +Yea, because the Czechs still had facilities to support the Panzer IV and Jagdpanzer 38t, not the Panther, those were all in Germany and Germany wouldnt start to develop any heavy military equipment until the 50s, whilst the Czechs maintained their heavy industry in the immediate post war. +--- 57880910 +>>57873642 +If they had a 30 year gap in tech they would've won the war +--- 57881001 +>>57871205 +Organic Control was a long US program to weaponize pigeons that lasted from the entry of the US in the war to 1953. +Precisely because despite working on it since the 30's and even with the capture of german systems as early as Anzio, they couldn't really figure out complex guidance systems so they kept the pigeons as an alternative system. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP1hJLepOhw [Embed] +--- 57881099 +>>57873132 +>Lend leases Soviets +>"Oops tee hee tally hoo ;^), we are off to become Pakistan 2.0 chaps!" +--- 57881109 +>>57870995 +>he doesn't know about gravity technology +--- 57881182 +>>57870929 (OP) +>tanks that look 30 years ahead of their time +The box medium tanks or the autistic heavy tanks that literally no one used afterwards? +--- 57881214 +>>57870929 (OP) +>>planes that look 30 years ahead of their time + +The allies had better, pushing half baked ideas into service isn't a sign of capability. + +>tanks that look 30 years ahead of their time +You think a king tiger stood a chance against a tank from the 1970s despite the fact it couldn't reliably move under it's own power? + +>small arms that look 30 years ahead of their time +you should already get the idea +--- 57883808 +>>57871187 + +Partially the massive superiority complex and partially the massive fuddlore that germans keep bringing up when the StG or the Horten being basically just as good as the m16,ak47 and B2 respectively. + +Take OPs statement for example: At worst, all german accomplishments were superseded by allied developments by 1949, at best the allies had similar technologies in place at the same time. +--- 57883814 +>>57871898 +Wouldnt the Hewitt-Sperry Automatic Airplane be the first true drone munition? +--- 57885304 +Thought someone would have posted this +--- 57885370 +>>57870929 (OP) +Germans are superior, easy as that +that's why jews keep seething to this day and keep copying whatever real civilisations build better before. +--- 57885386 +>>57870935 +Fpbp and /thread +--- 57888026 +>>57870929 (OP) +They didn't. Also, you have to be at least 18 to post here. +--- 57888065 +>>57870929 (OP) +>Deathtraps that look cool +--- 57888124 +>>57871187 +Tourists, jews and leftists. +>>57871455 +Hitler massively expanded gun rights for all people except card carrying commies and jews. Though the KPD was illegal anyway so if you were an active member of it you had other issues. +--- 57888265 +>>57883814 +It looks like one of the first early attempts, but I don't think it did very well in testing if it didn't have a human helping it take off. +--- 57888299 +>>57870935 +fpbp +--- 57888317 +>>57871427 +You’re being a massive faggot +--- 57888414 +>>57871187 +>why is there always anti-german seethe +(((anti-German seethe))) +--- 57888457 +>>57870929 (OP) +Allies had jets. See Americans and Brits + +Allies had better guns. Mass produced Bolt Action vs US and Soviet Semi Auto + +German tanks broke down. More than they worked. + +Every squad had a hand held radio, see handy talkie + +NAZIS TEC SUPERORITY IS A LIE! +--- 57888479 +>>57871187 +because you fags constantly make threads like this were act like krauts were some advanced nation during WW2 because you saw some shitty history channel show or due to ideological reasons despite the fact most of the time they often lagged behind the allies in practical tech, and then when confronted by this you double down and accuse others of being one of your many strawmen +--- 57888491 +>>57870929 (OP) +>look 30 years ahead of their time +>look +Because they gave absolute power to an art student, aesthetics were on point even if everything else was a failure +--- 57888545 +>planes that look 30 years ahead of their time +The F-15 Eagle entered production in 1972, my guy. +--- 57889252 +>>57888545 +This 100%!!! NAZIS jets were innovative but in the end were just a meme. Pound for pound the Mustang was more useful. Logistics win wars, not wonder weapons. How many mustangs and Sherman's vs tigers and nazis jets. +--- 57889386 +>>57888457 +>germans develop impractical techwank that has no real impact +>allies find out how to drop the sun from a B-29 +Many such cases +--- 57889599 +>>57885304 +It was referenced >>57883808 it was innovative, but a prototype that definitely wasn't 30 years ahead of its time and it didn't introduce the idea of a flying wing. Problem with these discussions is that its not claiming that in some areas Germany had innovative ideas, early adoption of tech or excellent implementation of tech, its German weapons were far more advanced than the allies. This provokes an excessive response about WW2 mythology. +--- 57890879 +>>57878070 +>No +Good for you! +--- 57891105 +>>57871384 +The F-80 was used in Italy for reconnaisance in January '45 never saw combat though +--- 57891145 +>>57870929 (OP) +I don't recall "muh lets focus on an unfounded grudge and warcrimes rather than the country" having semi automatic battle rifles as standard issue. +--- 57891151 +>>57870929 (OP) +>entirety of logistics is reliant on uncooked salami +literally Napoleonic-era tier army with thirdie strange flex wunderwaffes. +--- 57891152 +>>57870935 +What a satisfying first post +--- 57891218 +>>57891151 +germans werent that terrible with field rations +they used a wood-powered field kitchen to make garrison rations or packed them into insulated containers to serve at the front +they had access to iron rations, slightly improved since WW1, if cut off from kitchens +a 3-piece set with a meat dish, can of crackers, and seasonings (salt, sugar, peas soup stock) +about as old as a kar98 in terms of effectivity, but it worked + +it did pale in comparison to the US offerings, though +the C-rat was an evolution over iron rations, being a ready to eat meal, no further cooking or preparation required, having a much wider menu, and offering a whole accessory packet (powdered coffee, salt, gum, vitamins, cigs, a spoon, a dessert) +tactical advantage of the C-rat is that you just give 1 unit per person per meal and it has everything needed to eat there and then +iron rations would be gathered up from each trooper, prepared into individual portions, then returned to the troops + +the US even offered a K-ration, a slimmed down version of the C-rat to be used when cut off from supply that took up even less space +--- 57891251 +>>57871455 +>restricts gun rights, like Third Reich +Maybe stick to that one of facebook, retard. +--- 57891261 +>>57871911 +Putting a bomb on the target was an absolute game changer. +it unironically wasnt, this is a pretty unpopular opinion i think but the us was experimenting and had effective anti ship and precision guided munitions in ww2 and they were never the default bomb because they just arent worth it compared to strategic bombing - the germans never managed to strategic bomb anything so their few achievements with guided weapons stand out much brighter, even if they are just cope solutions for a military that couldnt bring that sort of force to bear. +--- 57891299 +>>57871187 +Boring history channel fuddlore that's constantly brought up like the Nazis had flying cars and shit +--- 57891509 +>>57870929 (OP) +USA did it the best diff --git a/k/57871076.txt b/k/57871076.txt index e0c2dbd0f2d75136c56e3b16427f644deaf3304c..1377bca97735639f6ff7abdddc35aae5fdae0dce 100644 --- a/k/57871076.txt +++ b/k/57871076.txt @@ -608,3 +608,59 @@ Nah, not just based on their state in the show, but as a result of their abiliti Exactly. >>57879053 NAYRT but I get what hes talking about - either a lot of earthbenders are chronically retarded or there is a subset of them that don't have the skill/power/finesse for anything but pulling hunks of rocks out of the ground and chucking them. Lots of times where walls were the obvious choice and they still resort to rock throwing. +--- 57879852 +>>57879578 +>they still resort to rock throwing +it's super effective against Air types okay! +--- 57881857 +>>57879852 +kek +--- 57882213 +>>57879852 +>Rock is fine. +--- 57884481 +>>57879578 +>NAYRT but I get what hes talking about - either a lot of earthbenders are chronically retarded or there is a subset of them that don't have the skill/power/finesse for anything but pulling hunks of rocks out of the ground and chucking them. Lots of times where walls were the obvious choice and they still resort to rock throwing. +That can be beaten into them in the same amount of time you'd have to train a regular soldier. You don't need him to be a martial arts master, you just need him to learn this one move. +--- 57884489 +>>57879442 +>in the case of the Fire Nation we're explicitly told the differentiation for line infantry. +Can you show me this line of dialog? +--- 57885735 +>>57879029 +His speech is so gay +--- 57886054 +>>57879488 +I'm an Azula man, myself. +--- 57886128 +>>57886054 +If Zuko had just fucked her we could have avoided all the retardation that was Korra. +--- 57886260 +>>57885735 +He's a hard-core anarcho capitalist. Fun fact, he's voiced by the same person that voices Mad Stan in Batman Beyond, he's almost the same character. +--- 57886398 +>>57874002 +Benders are a minority in the universe. Only 30% of people are benders. All benders would be specialists soldiers and would be used sparingly. Of course you want a non bender in a role that doesn’t use bending other wise you’re wasting the benders specialization. If you’d seen the show you’d know how the majority of the fire nations military are non benders and how drivers, navigators, and auxiliary personnel are not benders. This principle exits in the real world too. Losing highly trained and lower number personnel is worse than losing a grunt. +--- 57887290 +>>57886398 +If 30% of your population was benders that's double what you'd need to have an all bender military in almost any society in history. +Russia in WW2 couldn't get up to 20% deployment and they were dragging every fucker they could put half a rifle in the hands of to the front. + +America, WW2, less than 15 Percent. +America, civil war, less than 15 Percent. +--- 57888539 +>>57886398 +>Only 30% of people are benders +Where is this number from? There should be way more earthbenders on that prison rig then. Theres supposed to be earthbenders multiple villages on there. +--- 57888904 +>>57873250 + +Considering how retarded the Fire Nation leadership is, the Russians might actually stand a decent chance at winning given their overwhelming technological superiority. +--- 57890619 +Hot Take: Vanilla firebenders are pointless in modern combat. Combustion man firebenders however would be got tier. Its like giving every soldier a pinpoint accurate grenade launcher for no extra weight. +--- 57890960 +>>57890619 +Firebending would make clearing buildings a fucking breeze, and somehow that random guy in Korra was able to shoot down fucking planes with his firebending. +--- 57891560 +>>57872753 +https://youtu.be/DW3dg9VURMU?t=104 [Embed] diff --git a/k/57871837.txt b/k/57871837.txt index c200cf0893cda5ca8346d24bc291031418d9e206..9e1807a35ea2f477f3af84f5cf72f24c33db0778 100644 --- a/k/57871837.txt +++ b/k/57871837.txt @@ -159,3 +159,160 @@ Honestly, just go with the kits from whatacountry, at least then you won't have --- 57878278 >>57878220 I swear pretty much all of their kits were OOS but here's an imbel kit on their site for under a grand. Go figure. Still want an African kit but damn that's tempting as well. +--- 57880839 +>>57873304 +M77 if you're a fan of $50 mags from a single supplier that only seems to restock when you need to put money elsewhere +--- 57881672 +>>57878024 +>blue tigerstripe +Abt the only thing I can relate to in this gamer post. +--- 57882422 +Just got the m77 back from warranty, threw on the wood furniture from atlantic but its just “fine” not as nice as i’d hoped vs the original wood. debating on getting a galil style folder or the zastava triangle folder, throw on an rs regulate lower handguard with some kind of vertical grip and call it a day. +--- 57882723 +>>57882422 +>not as nice as i’d hoped vs the original wood +Slap some BLO on it +--- 57883099 +>>57882723 +The happiest thing since the Twingo +--- 57883860 +Why is my dpms unreliable? The receivers? The barrel? Mags? +--- 57884032 +>>57877865 +>Hi Owl +Hi fren! +>And Mrs Owl, I guess. +Owl and Little Owl :) +>Glad to see you're still with us. +I still check in every few threads and I typically have them all on my watchlist tab. I just so happened to check in right as a new thread needed to be made so I did it for you guys :) +--- 57885196 +>>57872893 +Try $31.5k and several days to go... +--- 57885538 +>>57874427 +>>57885196 +I don't know much about those old vehicles, but they do look cool. I also don't have that kind of money. +I will reiterate, got damn. +--- 57885799 +>>57884032 +How come there are no cool books on the G3 :( +--- 57885946 +>>57884032 +>>57871837 (OP) +Adorable owls, great taste! Closest I have to a battle rifle is a basic bitch AKM. +--- 57886328 +>>57885538 +Mercedes is like the FAL, it's everywhere Chevy isn't. If you want to overland the Pantanal, get the Mercedes. Dodge, Chevy need not apply. ...maybe Ford. This is what you want to find tge Lost World, City of Gold, El Dorado, et al. Make for a good prospecting truck, too. Pic rel. +--- 57886601 +>>57885799 +This is I think the closest thing you may have fren, and its more on the action than the rifle if I am not mistaken, the book is far out of my budget. + +https://www.amazon.com/Full-Circle-Treatise-Roller-Locking/dp/0889354006 + +>>57885946 +Ty fren :) +--- 57886794 +>>57882723 +Thanks for reminding me about working on CETME wood :) +--- 57886943 +>>57886601 +Hey, I have that book as a PDF. Technically 4 different PDFs. Not sure how to share it effectively, but if someone knows a way I can do that. +--- 57887003 +>>57886943 +all 4 merged. quality took a hit, but here you go +https://files.catbox.moe/ddm8oj.pdf +--- 57887256 +>>57882422 +that "tigerstripe" stuff from atlantic looks like shit +--- 57887658 +Is it even possible to find a m14 these days? +--- 57887870 +>>57882723 +His smile and optimism: restored +--- 57888084 +>>57887256 +>>57886794 +this is minwax gunstock stain mixed with tung oil +--- 57888117 +>>57887003 +Trouble downloading, I'll try again later, thx! +--- 57888161 +>>57887658 +I got a great one a little less yr ago off GB. Under a thou, closer to $1100 with tax, ship and xfer. Score in my book. +--- 57888207 +>>57871837 (OP) +What FFP scope for a M1A should I get for under $1000? +--- 57889006 +>>57888207 +God damn that's a deal. I paid $920 and that was a steal. +https://www.brownells.com/optics/scopes/rifle-scopes/match-precision-optic~-mpo-5-25x56mm-rifle-scope/ +--- 57889053 +>>57888084 +for me, it's tongue oil +--- 57889115 +>>57888207 +Go for the true Marine Corps larp and get an SWFA 10x42 HD. They're on stupid sale right now for $480, usually they're $800 +--- 57889117 +I know its AR10 & 6.5 Sneedmoor but I'm trying to help fix this shit and it's driving me nuts. +Anyone know what to do if you ever dealt with this shit? +>24" barrel +>rifle length gas +but has adjustable gas block +>keeps double feeding & stove piping rounds +>does ok with a well used bolt? +>hole in the fucking primer +--- 57889238 +>>57871837 (OP) +Are DS Arms Fals good? I'm looking to buy one but some people on plebbit complained about quality control. +--- 57889406 +>>57889238 +must we have this same question every day, multiple times per thread? +yes, they're fine +the ones with chrome lined barrels are even more fine +--- 57889445 +>>57889006 +Well this made it to the roster +>>57889115 +>no illumination +>boomer reticle +>no wind holds +No thanks +--- 57889773 +>>57889406 +Yes +--- 57889806 +I hope someone got this, email alert, out of stock by the time I checked... +--- 57889950 +>>57889445 +>>boomer reticle +What the living fuck is a "boomer reticle"? +--- 57890256 +>want to get into 308 and bigger for the sake of short and long range shooting +>don't hunt + +Besides "because I like it" is there any reason to get a 308 and up if you don't use it for anything but ringing steel and paper or am I wasting time and money on a rifle I won't use practically outside of hypothetical home defense? +--- 57890266 +>>57889117 + +Do you know if you're using one of the "high pressure" firing pins if it's a DPMS pattern? Armalite ones don't need it because of a return spring while the DPMS sorta free floats if Google is to be trusted. +--- 57890281 +>>57890256 +Long range shooting, fun, big boolet make big hole and if you get invited hunting you can bring it +--- 57890296 +>>57890281 +It seems fun and practical for the sake of gun usage otherwise I have zero experience beyond 300m +--- 57890430 +>>57889806 +FUUUUUUUCK. Seriously what the fuck what else rhodie came back in stock if they somehow found more of those? +--- 57890865 +Talk me out of a desert tech mdrx +--- 57890954 +>>57890865 +--- 57890982 +>>57889445 +Its really nice, amazing turret feedback. Better than $2k optics I've used. Crystal clear glass too. +--- 57890985 +>>57890296 +>I have zero experience beyond 300m +I mean you can hit something anywhere between 3-300 with 308 and 556 but go beyond with 308. Ammo being expensive and extra weight are the only real downsides, but if you have the cash and muscle then go for it. +The army’s going back to BRs. diff --git a/k/57872175.txt b/k/57872175.txt index 036a50d7152fe2857b7a1e86a6df8c1c377b371c..82eeeb8a0479243ffaecb9a89ec7acda0f149d0f 100644 --- a/k/57872175.txt +++ b/k/57872175.txt @@ -399,3 +399,251 @@ The psychological effect on your enemy is a key part of any armored vehicle. >>57876971 >NO! it has over 200 mods, it is totally Polish! lol anyway it is understandable that poles want to built it themselves, they ordered over 1000 of them, so it is a lovely machine, hell, even japs want them now, it has been exported to many countries. I think that the next Patria truck is going to be same kind of a miracle, they cut the bullshit out and made it simple & mean +--- 57881078 +>>57874182 +Basically French tech license with a Russian turret. +--- 57881155 +>>57878939 +Yea it does. Not having one is a terrible design. The 40 is nice but sucks if you’re using your IFV to try and establish a base of fire for maneuvering infantry. The 40mm can’t pent MBT frontally so it needs an ATGM. The fact that it doesn’t have one makes it a very meh IF +--- 57881190 +>>57878891 +>Wykop is firmly Polish reddit, +Some of its threads can simply be /pol/ (just without the pro-Nazi shit, obviously). + +P.S. Captcha: KKK24 +--- 57882462 +>>57878990 +The key point of a vehicle would be for it to actually work and doing what it was designed for, be it safely transporting a squad or neutralizing the enemy etc., not its looks, like please... The looks alone won't kill your enemy. +https://youtu.be/7kifV0zROuU?t=87 [Embed] +--- 57883344 +>>57872434 +>>57873019 +>>57875257 +Let's compare the interiors, pic rel: Patria AMV. +--- 57883355 +>>57883344 +And pic rel: KTO Rosomak. +--- 57883374 +>>57881155 +When 40mm shells start smattering the front of the vatnikmobile and ripping all the equipment off they are gonna abandon the tank. +--- 57883410 +>>57881155 +>>57883374 +The next version of the CV90 will have an integrated ATGM launcher, most likely it's gonna be a modified version of the Akeron. +--- 57883473 +>>57883344 +>>57883355 +Both look pretty neat. Wasn't the AMV intended from the start to allow this kind of design change, though? I know the UAE also requested a slightly longer vehicle, probably to make room for the BMP turrets they put on them. +Some older Russian machines are so cramped and built around their engines, fuel tanks and whatever that you couldn't possible move anything without having to start from scratch. +--- 57883475 +>>57883344 +>>57883355 +Look like completely different vehicles desu. +--- 57883671 +>>57883344 +>>57883355 +As you can clearly see, almost everything is changed, not only the seat type etc., but even the placement of the support beams, the floor, the roof, the sides, not to mention the driver-turret operator "free-floating" ring casket. +>>57883473 +>Wasn't the AMV intended from the start to allow this kind of design change, though? +Yeah, it's a platform designed to have enough room for different turret types. +>>57883475 +That's my point from the beginning. But people tend to give us Poles shit for nothing. When I said 200 modifications, I really meant it, I know what I'm talking about. AMV and Rosomak are not exactly the same vehicles, but the BASE platform is the same, yes obviously, duh! +--- 57883690 +>>57883475 +>That's my point from the beginning. +I'm not the anon you were arguing with. I'm just posting my observation. +--- 57883703 +>>57883690 +meant for >>57883671 +--- 57883744 +>>57883690 +>>57883703 +Yeah, I didn't accuse you specifically, just overall venting a bit, that's all. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MMOzW3MI8I [Embed] +--- 57883758 +>>57883744 +We should send some of Rosomak's equipped with ZSSW-30 for field testing. +--- 57883958 +>>57883344 +>>57883355 + There's nothing clever or funny about posting the same picture twice anon. +--- 57884067 +>>57883758 +Maybe, depends. +>>57883958 +I know you're blind troll, get glasses, faggot. +--- 57884153 +the polish bot farms are pajeet-tier in their propaganda, to the point i'm surprised they can even use english without making glaring mistakes every three words +--- 57884215 +>>57884153 +>i'm surprised they can even use english without making glaring mistakes every three words +That maybe has something to do with our Polish IQ. ;) +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km61cWOsF4M [Embed] +--- 57884237 +>>57884215 +jaka placa taka praca, co? +--- 57884248 +>>57884215 + +China, cheating as usual +I'm willing to believe Singapore. Great for em. +--- 57884258 +>>57883344 +>>57883355 +You are comparing a fucking APC variant with .50cal RWS to IFV with 30mm gun turret. Picture completely unrelated. +--- 57884289 +>>57884237 +Nadal czekam na me dzięgi. +--- 57884290 +>>57883671 +>>57883744 + +I was under the impression the Rosomak was built entirely in Poland now with mostly Polish components. +What parts are still shipped in from Patria? I know the power pack is still not a Polish engine. +--- 57884306 +>>57884258 +And you're comparing an IFV to a self-propelled mortar? + +The Polish RAK would be a better example, and it was developed entirely by Polish industry. +--- 57884358 +>>57884215 +PISA is a pisa shit. Tests are performed locally, supervised by local professors. It's trivial to manipulate scores. +--- 57884385 +>>57884215 +Dayum, Estonians are pretty high. Good on you bros. Finns be popping off as well. +--- 57884569 +>>57884258 +Yeah and? Show me the interior of a Finnish 30 mm turreted Patria AMV interior then? Smartass. + +P.S. Is that the NEMO/AMOS? Niiice. Pic rel is the Polish M120K Rak (wheeled mortar system based on the Rosomak) interior. +--- 57884579 +>>57884569 +Less blurry pic. +--- 57884585 +>>57883374 +This makes me wish for the alternate reality where Poles went with the BWP-2000 project with the 60mm automatic OTO Melara gun. +--- 57884646 +>>57884579 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBSaj5r1uLo [Embed] +--- 57884755 +>>57884258 +>>57884569 +>>57884579 +These are sooo pretty!!!! +--- 57884793 +How the autoloading mechanism works. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKuyQeEY0rY [Embed] +--- 57884818 +>120 mm self-propelled mortar RAK during fire exercises on the training ground https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6SooKdyg-E [Embed] +--- 57884825 +>>57873545 +wtf is that thing +I must own it +--- 57884849 +I don't even care who made what. These are cool and I would drink to the sight of these deleting vatniks. +t. Finn +--- 57884885 +>>57884646 +And this is the tracked Rak version on the Polish LPG chassis from HSW. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofhBfTGvQbg [Embed] +--- 57884928 +>>57884885 +M120G Rak (tracked). +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOFE0scCX1o [Embed] + +P.S. G stands for gąsienicowy "tracked" and K stands for kołowy "wheeled", so M120K Rak is the wheeled one on the Rosomak platform. +--- 57885459 +>>57884825 +That's the KTO Ryś ("Lynx") KOBUZ. +--- 57885487 +>>57874118 +>not a short bus +>damn polaks lol! +Haha sure, aren't you one little, small hypocrite? +--- 57885491 +>>57885487 +Like please... +--- 57885517 +>>57872354 +>which in turn was a not-so-cheap copy of Soviet BTR-80 or BTR-70 though +I don't what you've been smoking but you need to stop with that shit. +--- 57885642 +>>57885491 +cute hippo, would cross lake with if possible +--- 57885908 +>>57873816 +rolling +--- 57886263 +>>57884849 +True. Germany just joined CAVS, they need north of 1k vehicles. +--- 57886443 +>>57886263 +CAVS? I'm not familiar with this acronym +--- 57887329 +>>57885642 +>cute hippo +There is only ONE hippo! +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dd8DcfjKns [Embed] + +P.S. TOPKEK. +--- 57887454 +>>57886443 +CAVS = Common Armoured Vehicle Systems. Started out with Binland and Latvia. Sweden, Germany and Estonia have since joined. +Buying already existing equipment has legal implications for european tenders. +--- 57887622 +>>57873019 +>something Polaks could have never made themselves. +Orly? +>So sorry I am taking your national pride away. +Never! You can never take our Bober away! +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6oMVHht-ew [Embed] +--- 57887681 +>>57887622 +Bober! +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hz7Nt-yMzA [Embed] +Thread anthem: +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Nbqcjw1mg [Embed] +--- 57887900 +>>57873816 +Rolling +--- 57888541 +>>57887900 +Could be worse. +--- 57889705 +>>57874118 +Your SISU reminds me a bit of the AH 20.44 btw. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghYoTb_Maow [Embed] +--- 57890019 +>>57884928 +It looks like a constipated obese version of the Borsuk. +--- 57890061 +>>57887329 +It'd be interesting to see an MLRS built on this. It's amphibious and has a decent payload. +--- 57890101 +>>57882462 +Is that a local build of the Tatra Triton? +--- 57890111 +>>57889705 +HONKERS?! +--- 57890523 +>>57890061 +Polish AF don't seem to be interested in it so far, and it's an older project from 2011, so yeah... +>>57890101 +Rather more on the Patriot II. Yeah, Waran is based on the Tatra Force 815-7 truck chassis. It seems that the Polish Army will pick it for the Ottokar-Brzoza tank destroyer program. +--- 57890573 +>>57890523 +Neat. I think the Triton is just the export branding for the Patriot II. Poland is good at picking military systems. Are they still getting those Chudmoo rockets? +--- 57890583 +>>57890523 +Infographic of the TD program. +--- 57890597 +>>57890583 +Prototype is scheduled to be done this year. +--- 57890956 +>>57883410 +--- 57891699 +>>57890573 +>Are they still getting those Chudmoo rockets? +Well, 212 ChunMOO launchers been ordered. + +P.S. MOD still wanna order almost 500 HIMARS launcher modules (for Jelcz trucks) on top of the 20 HIMARS already ordered. diff --git a/k/57873507.txt b/k/57873507.txt index ad83f05dda334252c1eb06629a2c9068dabe64b6..30a7d0975646df3e4821c29758a8cb14c957f2ce 100644 --- a/k/57873507.txt +++ b/k/57873507.txt @@ -199,9 +199,6 @@ Are you an illiterate nigger or something? Just ran away from the plantation? >>57878135 >So you're assuming without any evidence that Ukraine has no shortages despite contradictory statements? Nigger, the US is literally still sending millions of shells, per the fucking US officials.. Ukraine is fine for their up coming counter-offensive. ---- 57878242 ->>57878207 -Ukraine lost 30k men for the strategically vital city of Bakhmut, cope and seethe retard --- 57878256 >>57878231 THE 14 Challengers with the armor removed? THE Leopard 1 shitboxes? Beast of an offensive coming up, can't wait. @@ -225,9 +222,6 @@ Can't believe they got my nigga >>57878256 >vatnik is already is seethe mode Lol. How did Vuhledar go, Vatnik? Take Bakhmut yet? ---- 57878287 ->>57878269 -Stop pretending to run things you deluded little bitch, say that to me IRL and I would break your face you pussy --- 57878299 >>57878287 you can hear the increased pressure of each keystroke. @@ -246,9 +240,6 @@ lancet bait :) --- 57878328 >>57878259 Tunisia, but all kraut tanks had dark yellow base paint from 1943 on. You can paint all kinds of greens and browns over it to make effective camouflage. IIRC, it also happened to be a paint German army had shortage of. ---- 57878336 ->>57878316 -6" Han Chinese, currently in the USA to steal as much IP as I can get away with and there is nothing you can do to stop me. LMAO --- 57878357 >>57878336 Nice rp lmao @@ -352,3 +343,252 @@ needs dispersion --- 57879658 >>57874307 Are you retarded? Or from some flyover state where they don’t have trees? +--- 57879734 +>>57877404 +>Western aid has been decreasing +Danes annouced few days ago they are sending 100 Leos. +US announced big package like a week ago. +Italy sent M109 recently. +--- 57879746 +>>57878287 +ReeeEEEEE, i'm gonna kill ya! Reeee!!!! +--- 57879751 +>>57873798 +>Ugledar, and Gulyaypole +OK Ivan. +--- 57880022 +47 brigade has based units, it will be interesting to see them in action on bradleys +--- 57880042 +>>57873507 (OP) +did they really not fucking paint them? ffs +--- 57880054 +>>57874307 +its a pine tree retard. they are literally called "evergreen" +--- 57880084 +>>57873507 (OP) +>Counter offensive soon +2 weeks +--- 57880096 +>>57874307 +It's April. +--- 57880107 +>>57880084 +>Offensive +>Happening at all this spring +lol, lmao even, kek possibly, jej maybe, top zozzle perhaps. +--- 57880121 +>>57873523 +Don't worry, Dennis/Warriortard/Starstreaktard/Bonghatetard/USshittard/Germanybesttard will be spamming multiple threads a day and will be glad to switch it up with a new one +>WHY IS THE BRADLEY SO SHIT? +>I THOUGHT THIS WOULD WIN THE WAR? +>USBROS.... +Etc. +--- 57880141 +>>57878641 +i just dont understand it. +is it that hard to buy a fucking can of paint at tthe hardware store? +--- 57880172 +why tf u need green camo in zaporizhzhia oblast fields +--- 57880186 +>>57873515 +Stay away from me, FSB +--- 57880322 +>>57879734 +>Danes annouced few days ago they are sending 100 Leos. +That isn't a new package, just reiterating their (+NL+DE) previous commitment. +--- 57880658 +>>57873523 +>A destroyed Bradley is a tragedy. +>A thousand destroyed BMPs is a statistic. +True, because there are thousands of BMPs on the battlefield and only a hundred Bradleys. +--- 57880719 +>>57873507 (OP) +>skipping in joyous glee +>sees camera +>stops +wtf... be happy my bro... +--- 57880821 +>>57878135 +I am demoralized. + +Every time I'm demoralized I send 100€ to united24 to pick me up +--- 57880952 +>>57880121 +Warriortard likes to coom all over the Bradley comparing it to other western nation APCs, until he starts comparing it to anything Russian, in which case his narrative slips and all of a sudden American vehicles are shit. +He is a shill plain and simple. +--- 57881003 +>>57878469 +Fucking hell. + +>>57878634 +The projections are the only proof that russians could have some level of self awareness, it's twisted, it ill intended, but despite all it's somehow there. +--- 57881007 +>>57880719 +He was about to stick kontakt-1 one on it but heard about you salivating weirdos and was self-conscious +--- 57881087 +>>57873507 (OP) +>Counter offensive soon +Lmao +--- 57881090 +>>57873564 +Ummm... sir? +--- 57881104 +https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FHBftxz1UNI +Do Bradleys still have terminator thermals? +--- 57881189 +>>57873507 (OP) +>Bradley's are officially in Ukraine. +Ahem, NAFO tranny. I'll remind you that T-54's are also officially in Ukraine. Khokhols have already been checkmated. +--- 57881284 +>>57873515 +Not deceptive enough for me, FSB +--- 57881336 +>>57881189 +I heard the Abrams is no match for the T-54. Ukraine is about to be taught a serious lesson. +--- 57881347 +>>57878082 +Poland alone send 400 AFV during these months. Rosomaks, PT-91, Leopards, BMP-1 and the ones you're not supposed to know about :) +--- 57881418 +>>57881347 +...PL-01? +--- 57881498 +>>57874256 +I want to see the salt after they start blowing up MBTs too. Maybe a repeat of the BTRs wrecking russian t72s early on +--- 57881671 +>>57878256 +>Challengers with the armour removed +U fuckin wot mate +--- 57881685 +>*armata have joined the battlefield* +oops..... +--- 57881703 +>>57881671 +He thinks the bongs give a fuck about their super secret armour even though it's basically the same shit on the Abrams. +--- 57881715 +>>57879106 +The Houthis crack open the things like cold ones so I figure wagner or the VDV can do it +--- 57881718 +>>57878256 +Well it's not like they'll be going up against Armatas. +--- 57881720 +>>57881685 +PLEASE RUSSIA NOT THE ARMATAS NOOOOOOOOO I'M SORRY AAAAAA +--- 57881741 +>>57881703 +Wtf is left if you took the armour off a chally, a kettle? +--- 57881743 +>>57881715 +We back in fantasyland. +--- 57881749 +>>57881720 +we will unleash.. remove the bater tank.. or else +--- 57881772 +>>57881741 +Are the kettles electric? Surely they will be highly prized trophies for the Russians if so. +--- 57881869 +>>57874307 +CIA painted them green +--- 57881954 +>>57881715 +I think you posted the wrong image vatnik +--- 57881985 +>>57874388 +>>57880054 +Birch trees with leaves at this time of year? +Kill your selves. +This is not in Ukraine at this time of year. +--- 57882019 +>>57881985 +Birch blooms in April-May, you fucking idiot. Of course they'll have leaves on them now. +--- 57882025 +>>57881985 +Correct, it's localized entirely within my kitchen. +--- 57882027 +>>57873523 +That was my first thought when I heard western ifvs and mbts were being sent lol +--- 57882107 +>>57881985 +this looks nothing like a birch tree fucking treetard +you never seen a pine tree in your life? +--- 57882164 +>>57881090 +>Bradleys in Soviet Green. + +Ahhh muh dick aahhhh. +--- 57882197 +>>57873523 +I like that you've prepared your cope in advance +--- 57883993 +That Financial Times article from yesterday... Do they really only have 35000 troops for this offensive? Is that enough? +--- 57884647 +>>57883993 +500 boyscouts with pocket knives would be enough at this point with artillery overwatch. +--- 57884902 +>>57874307 +It's April, you dumb ass nigger. +--- 57885558 +>>57881090 +>>57873564 +Whats the retionel behind this? +I remembe somebody on /k/ once wrote that digital cammo on uniforms is bullshit because the pattern is too small. By that logic it might work on vehicles? +--- 57885605 +>>57881715 +Houthis are better soldiers than Russians. +--- 57885638 +>>57883993 +That article is retarded because its acting like the spring offensive will be some sort of all front crusade where Ukraine tries to push them out from all directions hence the 35k vs 140k bullshit +--- 57885662 +>>57885558 + +It might be so that Ukrainian rank and file, spotters, drone operators, etc can recognise a given vehicle as friendly by its camo pattern. + +>source: i just guessed, someone else probably has a better answer +--- 57885723 +>>57885558 +US Army experiments in he 70's shown that Dual-Tex is more effective than MERDC, despite being the same colors and pattern, only pixelated. +--- 57885997 +>>57885723 +Ahh, cool thanks +--- 57888353 +>>57880952 +>>57880121 + +Unpopular opinion: WarriorTard is Armatard after he finally went full blown insane. +--- 57888410 +>>57881772 +Yeah, I can see this being a sought after item for the Russians if they can get one +You can make soup in them +--- 57888488 +>>57873507 (OP) +Is that a Bradley without the side skirt? That's the rarest Bradley sight of them all. +--- 57888820 +>>57888353 +I don't think this is too far off, something is more than just a bit fishy. +--- 57889118 +>>57873515 +right next to the town of Ligma +--- 57890172 +>>57878469 +>That bottom post +kek +--- 57890212 +>>57883993 +Because journalists have no grasp of strategy and the idea of securing local superiority on a specific point on the lone evades them. + +Also IIRC the original statement was that an additional 35k troops were raised for the offensive, that’s not necessarily the total troops they’re limited to. +--- 57890521 +>>57890212 +the irony. /k/ope has a complete lack of self awareness. The war is going to end on Russia's terms. +--- 57890550 +>>57883993 +/k/ope is about to find out. The last 6 months has been Wagner vs AFU, giving breathing room for 300k Russians to get training. don't expect any offensives until June, earliest May. +--- 57891654 +>>57890550 +300k Russians who don't want to be there +--- 57891673 +>>57890521 +WTF? I hate the west now! + +That argument has convinced me to call my representative in the European parliament and tell them to stop the support. + +t. Hans Hamburg from Düsseldorf oblast. diff --git a/k/57873628.txt b/k/57873628.txt index 43ab598c4b828e240599518003c55f5f028ee3f4..cab8630282ff5e9b60d8f0fedada227c1c323b0a 100644 --- a/k/57873628.txt +++ b/k/57873628.txt @@ -168,9 +168,6 @@ Fun fact: it had to because h bomb tech sucked at that time (bombs grossly heavy Would you look at that: Armatard threads are still around. You can only wonder where this could be going, looks like this >>57874370, not like we already had this dumb shit a hundred times and it will only continue like this a little bit later, because you idiots keep ignoring what happens every time. God only knows for how many years he had made these threads and the posters on this board have learned nothing and just keep bumping and replying to them as if nothing ever happened. No wonder he never left, he never actually had a real reason to do so, he only had to duck down for a few days and then most had already forgot what he had done for months before. I would wager by now the majority doesn't even know why he spams seemingly on-topic threads and why one should avoid them. ---- 57875882 ->>57875807 -The only reason why I post the Migs is because i know you'll respond. --- 57875902 >>57875882 --- 57875918 @@ -195,17 +192,6 @@ Super Hornet is just another overgrown F-5 variant. F-16N, delivered in 1987 and 1988. Retired in 1994. Talk about endurance issues. --- 57876024 >>57873628 (OP) ---- 57876074 ->>57875963 ->>57875902 ->>57875807 -I'm armatard, not him. Don't give him those replies. He's just copying me. - ->>57875997 ->Talk about endurance issues. -A flame that burns twice as bright, will live half as long. ->1987-1994 -You know those were some hard-G years. --- 57876104 >>57875882 >why I post @@ -253,3 +239,234 @@ See here he has de facto confessed to being the one guy copying Armatard 90% of --- 57879485 >>57873628 (OP) >Foxbat...I am your mother. +--- 57880475 +>>57874145 +kek +--- 57880525 +>>57874791 +There were only two fighters that were initially designed as piston-engine aircraft but entered service as jets. The Yak-15 was one of them (the Saab 21R was the other) +--- 57880543 +>>57874973 +How could you bring up the F-89 and not mention the wing-tip weapon pods? +--- 57880552 +>>57876787 +>glowie sccreecher see the opportunity and starts to falseflag +At least you are not attacking innocent posters for a change. +--- 57880564 +Not even sur why but I really like this jet. +--- 57880571 +>>57874973 +Or the weird-ass nose turret, for that matter. +--- 57880584 +>>57873628 (OP) +the only note worthy achievement of the Mig-25 is spurring the development of the greatest fighter aircraft to ever fly +--- 57880590 +>>57880564 + +Me too but the Corsair 2 is even better + +And their modern adaption corsair 3 is picrel + +hope we get to see it +--- 57880597 +>>57876216 +>>57876240 +>>57876389 +Not a jet. +--- 57880617 +>>57873628 (OP) +I've always found the Crusader III's triple tails bizarrely aesthetic. +--- 57880707 +>>57880617 +Crusader III is the coolest thing. It's what I imagined spaceships would be like as a kid. +--- 57880898 +>>57880617 +reminds me of the F-16 ATFI +--- 57880962 +i am a big (large) fan of the EA-6B prowler i think it is a very cute and chubby plane.. and it has four seats which would make it the comfiest to flu in because i could sleep so nice like a roadtrip with my friends :D +please be nice to it +--- 57881015 +>>57873848 +>>57874189 +>>57874836 +>>57880584 +Based. +F-15 is objectively the nicest fighter ever, 2nd is the F-22. +--- 57881435 +>>57880584 +Don't say that too loud. Leafs will take the credit on developing the MiG-25. +--- 57882636 +>>57876161 +Hits a bigger plane than you think. +--- 57883019 +>>57874852 +It’s a death trap +--- 57884040 +does anyone have cool f111 pics? +--- 57884956 +>>57880617 +>>57880898 +I like those, they remind me of the useful fish. +--- 57885009 +>>57875100 +Ace Combat aesthetic 10/10 +--- 57885026 +>>57873848 + +F-15 was the DEFINITION of Fighter Jet for me growing up, so that's what I'll always imagine when I hear the term. +--- 57885049 +>>57876389 +>B-24 Liberator +>Named Bolivar Jr. + +N I C E +--- 57885073 +>>57880962 +Thats a thicc girl +--- 57885085 +>>57882636 +>dayumm guurll, you shit with dat ass?? +--- 57886135 +>>57882636 +Did they hit a limit in engine research and just made it bigger? +--- 57886910 +>>57886135 +IIRC those engines originally were designed to be as cheap as possible and huge for a supersonic drone. +The MIG25 was just another soviet case of the "XB-70 Valkyrie fear" +--- 57886930 +>>57880552 +>no you are Glowie screecher +>no you are Armatard +Will you ever get a new line, you stupid fucking vatnigger? This is why everyone is laughing at you. +--- 57886975 +you are all homosexuals +--- 57887306 +>About to end the ShitBat whole career +--- 57887341 +>>57886930 +Yes, you are glowie screecher, the faggot, armatard's personal little bitch. While we are at it both need to be permabanned and a therapy. +--- 57887384 +>>57873628 (OP) +Not even close. +--- 57887643 +>>57887341 +^^^^^ +This poster is glowie screecher, he is false flagging against himself now trying to trick people into attacking his enemies through reverse psychology. It doesn't work because it's clear from the post chain that you are defending the shit tier vatnik thread and not the other way around. +--- 57887706 +>>57873628 (OP) +ahem +--- 57887747 +>>57887643 +Yeah, yeah, glowie screecher, keep trying, it's not going to work beside making it easier to find you. But after trying it for two years i doubt you still put much thought into it, you just do it like a reflex. + +Anyone wondering why he's called glowie screecher? He couldn't understand how other people could have other opinions from his vatnik opinions, so he made it up in his mind how everyone with another opinion must be from some government organization. You are glowie, this guy is glowie, only a glowie would say this, etc. That's how he got his name. + +And if the faggot dares to continue, i tell yah all the story of how he became Armatard's bitch boy. Btw, glowie screecher, you are rather tame today, received too many bans in recent time? +--- 57887915 +>>57887747 +>>57887789 +Imagine the surprise when you show up to defend the other vatnik thread like an ass sore on the catalog, with your wordsalad attempts at reverse psychology. How does your tactic even supposed work? +>Find vatnik thread getting shitposted against +>Pretend to be ukraine supporter saying the shitposters are false flagging vatniks +How many layers of "pretending to be retarded" can you hide under, until you're just another retard? +--- 57887959 +>>57886975 +Look, it's a close second, but you can't beat the Eagle. +--- 57888246 +>>57887915 +That's your problem, glowie screecher, you lie too much, basically all the time. Like how you bumped the thread again, why are you bumping Armatard's thread unless younare lying? Same thing over in the other thread, you keep bumping it and everyone can watch you do it! + +And now as promised, the story of how glowie screcher became armatard's bitchboy: he was too stupid to realize that armatard's threads weren't genuine or made in good faith, or anything beside below subpar quality, they are just spammed for effect and more often than not just a copy of a copy of ... Anyway he thought they were normal and liked them because he shares similar opinions, and he got real mad when everyone kept reporting them and calling them shit. Posters explained what was wrong with the threads to him, but he wasn't having any of it, he wanted those low quality threads which were the breeding ground and emergency backup for armatards next jingoistic outbreak or shill spam. He hated better quality threads about russian equipment since they lacked the shill and jingoistic undertone and he would stand out there. Eventually he became something like a retarded chihuahua guard dog for even the dumbest and most obvious kind of armatard threads and would furiously defend them at any form of critique, he would spend days doing it and nothing no matter how stupid was too stupid for him, it had even gone so far he keeps trying to shill armatard isn't real, ironically that was also in a time when everyone could watch him maintain his usual 4-6 threads for like 16 hours a day. How he continued to see and call out glowies everywhere didn't help either. +You might say "he sounds a bit like a schizo and newfag if he does all this dumb shit", well, you are probably not wrong, i guess. + +Took me a while to response, but same gimmick as before, but this time it gets spicy: he replies again and i post one of his mental breakdowns on /k/, maybe even two. +--- 57888467 +>>57887706 +wtf never heard abt this +--- 57888572 +>>57873848 +>>57885026 +Truly the platonic ideal of a jet fighter +--- 57888579 +>>57873628 (OP) +You're kidding me right? The think's a brick with wings glued on it. +--- 57888621 +>>57873628 (OP) +I only like naval jets because for political reasons I consider every air force in the world to be populated by gay faggots that can suck my cock and balls at the same time +--- 57888672 +>>57883019 +It’s a suicide rap +--- 57888702 +>>57876436 +obvious winner +--- 57888902 +For me, it's the F14. +--- 57889111 +>>57874710 +You think you’re hustling me? Im the ultimate hustler +--- 57889123 +How do you do, fellow Russians? +--- 57889418 +>>57874836 +>le k:d!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +you're a dumb nigger +--- 57889544 +>>57873628 (OP) +The Cocaine snorting lunatics at the Air Force evaluated an interceptor version of the extremely sexy B-70 against it's equally sexy little brother the F-108 Rapier +So imagine this with like 70 AIM-9's lol +--- 57889757 +>>57874189 +God damn this photo always gives me the chills. +--- 57889790 +>>57873628 (OP) +>all these vapid slut planes +It’s like you want to lose ww2 +--- 57889817 +>>57889757 +hi redit +--- 57889970 +>>57889123 +Greeting my Russian Comrades. My name is Ivan Notciaovich from St. Petersberg County here with my other fellow Russian Comrades. Let us squat and discuss the specifications and capabilities of you- I mean our glorious Russian military aircraft. +--- 57890372 +>>57889544 +>interceptor version +No, nobody did that. Are you confusing something with the XF-108 Rapier, which shared engines with the XB-70? + +Also: +>intercepting with sidewinders +lol, no dummy. Would have had a handful AIM-47s. +--- 57890392 +>>57889970 +i always knew washington was eastern european +--- 57890609 +>>57873628 (OP) +ITT all the popular fighters and some attack aircraft + +Meanwhile me in the corner with the S-3. I just think it's neat and cute looking. +--- 57890638 +>>57884040 +The roll-out ceremony is pretty cool +--- 57890658 +>>57873628 (OP) +The last good looking Mig was the 21 +--- 57890997 +>>57890609 +Love your weird little plane anon. Don't let the simps sucking off the fighter jocks take her away from you. +--- 57891010 +>>57884040 +The crew escape capsule was neat. +--- 57891017 +>>57891010 +>Don't talk to me or my son ever again +--- 57891044 +Sorry, you missguided mongrels, just posting the sexiest jet ever. And don't you dare to come up with one of those dogshit longnose variants. +--- 57891122 +>>57889111 +>Im the ultimate hustler +That's only because the Super Hustler got cancelled. +--- 57891337 +>>57873628 (OP) +I've always loved the look of the P-59 Airacomet. The thing is just so fucking dieselpunk. It was meant for an alternate timeline where the Nazis launch thousand bomber raids on New York City and the P-59s dogfight German escort fighters that look exactly like Do-335s (but which inexplicably have a transcontinental range), somehow Howard Hughes builds a AIM-9X Sidewinder in 1946, and there's a brief cameo by Major Dick Bong. +--- 57891365 +>>57891044 +F-4 is like Rafale, beautiful from some angles, not so much from others. diff --git a/k/57873722.txt b/k/57873722.txt index 7e66dde673dcf06c8b201aee55d60ce95b0bef69..0ea39dcf98cc006005fdd2cbb5d36b4b6626f8de 100644 --- a/k/57873722.txt +++ b/k/57873722.txt @@ -169,3 +169,202 @@ The yield is less than some other trees and the investment is long-term, but has >>57879260 >onions Really, 4chins? The word was s_o y. +--- 57879724 +>>57873722 (OP) +Flintlock rifles are the best rifles for prepping no ifs or butts +--- 57880050 +>>57874941 +I wouldn't recommend putting them up on a shelf and forgetting about them. +Agriculture (especially permaculture) is something you should start working towards asap. +It's like that old proverb "the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, the second best time is today" +--- 57880127 +>>57878988 +Self sufficient backyard +https://www.digistore24.com/redir/379127/approved123/ +--- 57880607 +>>57873894 +This is my goal in life. Thanks for the book recommendation +--- 57880878 +>>57875134 +Eastern eurofag reporting, with long term experience in using Soviet made Shmel gasoline stoves, Iam talking about years of almost daily cooking. Despite being decades old and built to the Soviet standards of fit and finish they are still excellent, even in comparison with modern MSRs or Colemans. Simple all steel/brass construction, tough parts, eats up all kinds of gasoline, so no need to splurge for white gas. Requires preheating and frequent cleaning, had to change one rubber seal after a year of usage. The main downside is these stoves arent made anymore, though people still offer repair kits for them. From my experience average monthy usage for single person is one gallon of gasoline, and tiny bit of alcohol employed as primer, though its unnecessary if you are to use it in the open - you can prime it with gasoline just fine, its just gonna produce lots of stink and smoke. IMHO liquid fuel stoves are excellent short to medium time solution for prepper, dependable, portable, use ubiquitous and easily stored fuel, work well in winter, good for both outdoor and indoor applications, still very small footprint. Great think to have in your car kit, if they use the same fuel. +--- 57880915 +>>57875269 +gonna greatly enjoy the White Sharia with my golden dinars and enslaved roasties, ngl. +--- 57880950 +>>57879269 +lol newfag +--- 57881100 +>>57877074 +He is, you just can see him through the shit slurry +--- 57881113 +>>57876894 +At least you fed your rabbits +--- 57881144 +>>57877398 +Building a city as a straight line is so retarded that I hope they'll finish the project +--- 57881204 +>>57881160 +That's pretty cool. I'll give it a try next time I'm /out/. +How well does it work? +--- 57881249 +>>57881204 +Don't know. I've been working myself to death for years and years without a chance to go camping. +I just holiday vicariously by looking stuff up online. Sometimes I sit there and listen to outdoors camping ambiance on Youtube. Rain on a tent. Rain on a car. Cabin in a snow storm. +Let me know how it works? +--- 57881276 +>>57875134 + +Butane stoves are great for camping. For SHTF you should have a good supply of cans. Get a few with the winter mix, it is a variant suited for below-freezing-point temperatures. If you plan to make food for a family then you should have something more powerful or that runs on cheaper fuel. Kerosene stoves are old school but great for cheap food making; white gas stoves have a lot more output per cubic unit of fuel so are more effective. Multifuel stoves are great but for versatility but it switching between fuels can be fiddly. +--- 57881460 +>>57873722 (OP) +>Personally I’m looking for the cheapest way to stockpile freeze dried foods. +Rent time on a commercial freeze dryer, or if you can afford it, build your own. That's what the Nutrient Survival guy did, now he runs a pretty nice operation around it using the competitive differentiator of adding tailored vitamin loads to each of the products. + +Freeze drying is a superior method of food preservation, but it's not easy to do at home. Consider relying on home preservation techniques for the bulk of your supplies, maybe augmented with whatever freeze dried components you can afford and can add a little spice and nutrition to a survival diet. +--- 57881936 +>>57881249 +>>57881249 +>I've been working myself to death for years and years without a chance to go camping. +>I just holiday vicariously by looking stuff up online. Sometimes I sit there and listen to outdoors camping ambiance on Youtube. Rain on a tent. Rain on a car. Cabin in a snow storm. +That's kinda sad, mate. And evidence that you need to reevaluate your life. Can you really not even take a weekend off to go do something for yourself? Maybe by spending less time on 4chan? + +You could buy a solo tent from REI right now for $99 (if you can afford just an extra $80 you could grab a Lanshan 2 Pro, big enough for two people and almost half the weight). The rest of the gear you need for a 2-3 day camping trip in mild weather won't set you back much more than that. +You could do it. You could be listening to actual rain on your tent by next weekend (or next consecutive 2 days off if you're a shift worker). + +I will post a review on here in the future when I get a chance to try it out though. +--- 57882031 +>>57881276 +>>57875134 +>>57881249 +Doing some reading on wood gasifier stoves I doubt they'll replace my MSR canister stove any time soon (hunting for dry wood and building a fire is a hassle you don't always want at the end of a long day's hiking, even if the stove makes it easier than a camp fire), but building a tiny fire looks fun af and I can see some benefits to it. Use is a little more complex than just throw wood into the can if you want gasification. +There are various designs (see http://angrysparrow.com/misc_hosted/bushwhacker.pdf), I'll need to see what the differences are and what significance they make to the end product. I'm thinking I'll build a relatively small one first (suitable for my/my wife) and if it works out something larger for camping with a group. The latter use case is probably more valuable to me, whenever we go camping with mates we tend to have a campfire anyway and that means we'll already have wood collected that can be used in the stove. Looks more convenient than attempting to use a campfire for actually cooking anything other than marshmallows. + +From a shtf perspective I still think I'd stick with a canister stove if I only had the space for one. Simpler to use in rough weather when you're already stressed and potentially injured. Faster to get up and running, and faster to cook with (meaning less chance of attracting hostile actors). Safer to use inside if you're sheltering in a building. Possibly lighter. +A gasifier stove would be more useful long-term, sure, but I'm not expecting to be camping innawoods longterm so I'd expect to have other cooking options available (the canister stove is just for emergency use during the few days of travel it'll take to get somewhere safe). If it works out I'll leave one in the 4x4 and another at a likely BOL. + +Alcohol stoves are another option. Soda can alcohol stoves are a great project to do with young relatives or your kids. Not the greatest for shtf but they have their advantages. +--- 57882543 +>>57882031 + +Nice PDF dude. Thanks. +--- 57883384 +Food is easy and cheap to gave around. +https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?lang=eng +--- 57883394 +>>57875269 +>China at baseline is xenophobic +>thinking that China will not gulag you if anything happens with any white country + +Lolol all that work just to get disappeared on foreign soil +--- 57883693 +>>57881102 +Should call them SREs +--- 57883889 +>>57873894 +Just bought this book. Never really thought about the lack of internet or electricity might make it hard for me to access my infographics +--- 57884279 +>>57874161 +>occasionally dipping into it for camping +Nah, just get camping food like tuna packs separate. +If you want to just get some food grade 5 gallon buckets with an air tight seal and put in rice and dry beans. Stick a dessicant pack or 2 in there and it'll last 10 years at least. That's cheap insurance for emergency food. +--- 57884343 +>>57874001 +Ponder +The +Aroma +--- 57884601 +>>57882092 +>Using a bunch of psudo-science hippie/FB-mommy bullshit +>not using gamma ray sterilization +Incredibly fucking lame. +--- 57884621 +>>57881160 +>>57881204 +Please be aware that the wood gas is carbon monoxide, that shit can kill you. +That shit can kill you. Only this outdoors, and light the gas on fire as soon as possible so it's not just shitting out a bunch of unburned poison gas. +--- 57884766 +>>57874909 +Buy a used Hi-rail and use railroads or buy used Hyrail kit and convert your own truck. They'll be largely empty and normals don't think of them. Hiking, dirt bike and 4x4 will also work on them but not quickly. +--- 57884786 +>>57880878 +That IS well made (stove and related blowtorch aficionado here). +--- 57884796 +>>57880878 +Those sell well on Ebay too so if you can get more you can turn a profit. Check US Ebay. +--- 57884827 +>>57880878 +Austrian Phoebus was the original BTW. +--- 57885197 +>>57873722 (OP) +Anyone not currently making Pemmican is NGMI + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_vLuMobHCI&pp=ygURcGVtbWljYW4gdG93bnNlbmQ%3D [Embed] + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQZj1-lSilw&pp=ygURcGVtbWljYW4gdG93bnNlbmQ%3D [Embed] + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHMAoIJuiVU&pp=ygURcGVtbWljYW4gdG93bnNlbmQ%3D [Embed] + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6ApJGqJOi0&pp=ygURcGVtbWljYW4gdG93bnNlbmQ%3D [Embed] + +Freeze dried, canned, or vacuum sealed, it will last literally forever. +--- 57885567 +>>57885197 +what can I do with pemmican that I can't with dried meat and rice, or flour, or beans? +--- 57885652 +>>57885567 + +How is the total vitamin content in meat, rice, flour and beans? +--- 57887881 +Deenz +--- 57888502 +>>57876322 +>freeze dried +>good for MRE type applications +I don't think you know what MRE means +--- 57888589 +>>57885652 +okay, so they're what, 50% more calorie dense? do you *need* that compactness? +--- 57888763 +>>57888589 +/k/ isn't a need board. +--- 57888854 +>>57888763 +So you.. Want to eat a shit load of pemmican, instead of a variety of food with various nutrients and tastes and textures? Well, have fun anon. +--- 57889066 +>>57888763 +>/k/ is a larp board +well alright +--- 57889076 +>>57877074 +Bottom right. +--- 57889318 +>>57877257 +Nice kniv anon, I have the same one same color strapped to my camping/hiking pack +--- 57889764 +>>57885197 +>Freeze dried, canned, or vacuum sealed, it will last literally forever. +You can't freeze-dry high-fat foods. Why would you even suggest that? +--- 57889808 +>>57885567 +>>57888589 +>okay, so they're what, 50% more calorie dense? do you *need* that compactness? +Good if you're on the move, that's pretty much it. +--- 57890375 +>>57889764 +I just don't like people with freeze driers. +--- 57890409 +>>57882069 +please stop posting this, this literally does not work. You will only grow more green, however the green will NOT make more shoots to grow potatos. The only potatos that will form are with the original shoots coming up when first planting. This does not work at all, I don't know why you goobers keep posting this. +--- 57891429 +>>57889764 +You can +But there's no point freeze drying pemmican, freeze drying meat would have the same effect +--- 57891491 +>>57873722 (OP) +--- 57891512 +>>57891491 +Basically everything on the right is covered by "militias" +--- 57891551 +>>57881128 +>masks +dropped diff --git a/k/57873754.txt b/k/57873754.txt index 5b9a59164f2dd1f3c66cce7e1d6edc9582a46b1a..6d6037af2358cb1f57fa91e7fb8712524a95697d 100644 --- a/k/57873754.txt +++ b/k/57873754.txt @@ -71,3 +71,104 @@ If I was like a police chief or police captain, I would carry a gold desert eagl --- 57878038 >>57873754 (OP) >nobody's mentioned the GOAT game pistol +--- 57880000 +>>57873754 (OP) +What?: ESL? +--- 57880077 +I will protagonist carry my p226 with wood grips (invisible until i draw it for dramatic effect) +--- 57881213 +>>57877797 +Sexy +--- 57882481 +>>57873754 (OP) +God that would look so much better without that stupid STARS engraving +--- 57882592 +>>57873754 (OP) +>LOVE AND PEAAAAAACE +--- 57882608 +>>57882536 +It's never coming out. +--- 57882896 +>>57882608 +Making it Anon from the hit /k/ post >>57882536's iconic weapon will force them into production +--- 57883100 +Colt Delta Elite. The red triangle is cool. +--- 57883250 +Claimed +--- 57883289 +>>57883250 +--- 57883404 +45 lonslide +--- 57883430 +Mine +--- 57883448 +>>57873754 (OP) +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_10 + +https://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/smith-and-wesson-model-10-review/ + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFYn5KChBvo [Embed] + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyuWY3NU3e8 [Embed] + + +https://www.gunbroker.com/Revolvers/search?Keywords=Model%2010&PageSize=96&Sort=4&View=1&Ch-model=10 + +www.thesixgunjournal.net/a-revolver-buyers-checklist/ + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEHNZFTfSD8 [Embed] + + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkWlIhaeuaY [Embed] + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaiGSDiaI_w [Embed] +--- 57883554 +spess cowboi +--- 57883624 +First (i hope) for Glock 20 +--- 57883835 +I really like my Q4 SF so I'll be going with that. +--- 57883930 +>>57873754 (OP) +--- 57883976 +>>57873754 (OP) +Perfect for retiring Replicants. +--- 57884572 +Claimed +--- 57884675 +>>57873754 (OP) +Either something painfully boring or something quite retarded like pic related. So I guess this one is claimed. +--- 57885838 +>>57877333 +this gun made by the autistic nigger that wrote his name on everything in school +--- 57885858 +>>57877797 +is it possible to remake this gun in a modern non retarded calibre? +--- 57885909 +>>57885838 +That gun was made in a time where plenty of parts were still hand fitted to firearms. +--- 57886954 +EZ +--- 57887678 +simple as +--- 57887692 +/thread +--- 57887695 +>>57880077 +ew, is that their dak or whatever trigger? gross +--- 57887712 +>>57873754 (OP) +Type 17 +--- 57887733 +Da Oozi Nein Millahmeatuh +--- 57887791 +>>57885858 +Yes. +--- 57889160 +Malaysian Police USP +--- 57889304 +Claimed +--- 57889343 +Glock 18. + +Every single time I get into a gunfight, the dramatic tension would disappear pretty much immediately as I spray the entire mag into the general direction of the enemy, reload, and then do it again. diff --git a/k/57873845.txt b/k/57873845.txt index 70372bb428e3444fe0211e44ea3c3c47cd6b1e09..228e83412d1c4d4beaf41f92ed05078a70d8b3cd 100644 --- a/k/57873845.txt +++ b/k/57873845.txt @@ -161,3 +161,221 @@ if anyone needed further proof that feds were in here trying to scare everyone i Blacks can’t aim for shit. But a FA Glock fires so fast that the entire mag is emptied in, for all intents and purposes, the same amount of time as it would take a nog to fire one shot. So although they can’t aim, they get 33 (fifty with da mufuggin drum clip n shiet on da glitzy nigga fuck shit) chances to get lucky, and all they have to do is aim in your general direction How have nigger on nigger homicide rates changed every since auto Sears became popular among them? +--- 57881011 +>>57876445 +>it's not illegal to share, produce or purchase these +>what is intent to construct +alright fed now this is just entrapment at this point. +Incase you're not a fed and you're just really, really stupid. if you get caught with a 10inch barrel and a non sbr'd AR, that's a felony for intent to construct. it doesn't matter if you were holding it, or waiting for your tax stamp to be approved, or whatever. if it looks like you had the parts and intended to use them, you're fucked. +now imagine if you had a very very specific part that's only function is to make a very very specific gun full auto. if you get caught with one of them, sure maybe nothing happens. now if you get caught with one of them, and you just happen to own a Glock, now you're fucked big time. +--- 57881053 +>>57876352 +>you can easily purchase +yeah if by easy purchase you mean $38,000 dollars? this isn't even a poor nigger problem, even if you're making 100k a year, that's over a third of your paycheck spent on what, another gun? could be buying a brand new car for that money, or pay for like over a years rent at a nice house in a big city. or buy 38k worth of different guns and ammo.... the only people who would buy a full auto would be either boomers With more retirement money than sense, or niggers who think buying this 18k transferrable Uzi will make them the talk of the hood + +>it's legal to manufacture them hehe +no, not unless you're an SOT and conducting business with them. plus even then it's a 600$ tax every year and if you ever stop paying, the feds come and take all your guns away. then the rest of the year you have to worry about finding like 3 people who can and want to legally buy full auto guns or else the ATF deems you aren't doing enough business and- once again, takes all your guns away and never lets you get an FFL again +--- 57881381 +>>57873845 (OP) +Orcs are not great at ranged combat, but they have enough dakka to make up for it. The best way to avoid this is to stay at a far range, and use your superior hit dice to your advantage. +However, if you get caught in the middle of a big city during a WAAAAGH, you’re pretty much fucked +--- 57881406 +>>57876445 +SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK LIKE THE GOVT TEAT GLOWNIGGER. CHATGPT OR GLOWNIGER, BEGONE. BACK TO YOUR DILATION STATION AT CAMP AXE WOUND. +--- 57881423 +>>57881053 +>"STOP BEING POOR!!!" +-Person with 75k in credit card debt, wobbly IKEA furniture and carpeted apartment showing off his latest gizmo gadget to strangers on social media +--- 57881494 +>>57876360 +Why don't we team up then? /k/ could give niggers tactical training and overthrow the US gov in 3 weeks +--- 57881502 +Being racist and owning guns doesn't make you a tough man +--- 57881613 +>>57875973 +It's also not illegal for you to put anybody you want on a list for further monitering :) +--- 57881704 +>>57876445 +>the government is not an all seeing eye +sure, but we aren't stupid, fed. they've caught feds hundreds of times on 4chan. people have been arrested (for shitposting and venting about politicians mind you, nothing illegal) by feds who were monitoring 4chan in the past. there is undeniable proof that at the very least, there is a small team at the fbi dedicated to monitoring chan threads for any illegal activities, threats, or anything going against their status quo. +I'd be surprised if feds were monitoring sites like reddit or Tumblr or something, but to be monitoring 4chan not only has precedent but is now expected. + +>the black problem in the USA is proof of this. +for starters, you aren't even allowed to say nigger, dumbass fed. clocked from a mile away. +secondly, it's already been established in this thread that feds and cops are afraid of another "Summer of peace" aka mass riots if they do anything to a nig and it gets on TV. +so instead of sending feds to the hoods and risking their boys getting shot trying to confiscate the crips seemingly endless supply of Glock switches and wish dot com autosears, they have em sit in a comfy office, monitoring 4chan and trying to bait people into saying or posting that they have illegal guns, parts, plans, etc. by lying to them and entrapping them. + +tldr; get fucked fed we can see you glow from a mile away +--- 57881833 +>>57881011 +>>57881406 +>>57881704 +BE AFRAID EVERYONE!! BE VERY AFRAID! + +your lives are worth infinite value and not worth protecting the future of our people (especially those brown people that come from africa and live in filth and dirt) or the second amendment. + +DO YOUR PART TODAY TO DEGENERATE YOURSELF AND OTHER FOLKS! +--- 57881847 +>>57876441 +>look at the reviews +>surprising numbers of whites +>lots of retards posting with their hands or tattoos visible +>posting with their serials visible. +People are dumb. +--- 57881855 +>>57875799 +百度一下,你就知道 +全球领先的中文搜索引擎 +--- 57881950 +>>57876360 +>bent coat hanger. +..........??? +--- 57881973 +>>57875027 +Anon government employees dont send their kids to inner city schools, its an anarcho tyrannical move as dead inner city kids impact the machine little at all. +--- 57882044 +>>57881011 +>>57881406 +>>57881704 + +why don't you fags go join a libtard cult in a big city and throw away your guns, then start telling everyone else they need to get rid of their guns or you're going to call the cops. + +fucking pussy libtards...you don't even belong on this board +--- 57882077 +>>57873845 (OP) +You're at a tactical disadvantage if he trains and you don't. + +The gun doesn't matter and fuck the 1986 GCA. +--- 57882232 +>>57881950 +boy that hanger took a beating! all mangled up and stuff and destroyed. +--- 57882345 +>>57881704 +>(for shitposting and venting about politicians mind you, nothing illegal) + +specifically saying shit like "I AM GOING TO KILL (politician)" is a threat and is not legal. its not 'venting'. there are been enough terrorists from 4chan that the feds would be stupid to not take every threat seriously. +--- 57882393 +>>57882345 +You’re objectively wrong but thanks for the input. +It has to be an actionable threat for it to be illegal. Threatening someone across the country by saying you’re gonna throw them in a woodchipper is fine but if you say youre going to kill X neighbor in Y way at Z time then yeah you might get a knock on the door. + +Chitwood hasnt changed the law +--- 57883544 +>>57875316 +>Full auto on an infantry combat rifle specifically is less useful because you are usually at a longer engagement distance +The entire point behind developing the assault rifle as a concept was to do what you said, but also being able to take that gun and fight indoors or in trenches. During WW2, the SMG was vastly preferable to your rifle in those situations. Assault rifles simply gave you that SMG capability as an option. +--- 57883732 +>>57874928 +love this one, got more webms, and or story? +--- 57883790 +>>57874928 +>>57883732 +bruh +https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5117383 +--- 57884005 +>>57882077 +>Niggers +>Training +Thanks for the laugh, anon +--- 57884442 +>>57874875 +This guy is noguns, you always know its him because he attaches that faggot smiley face when he makes his cringenigger posts. +--- 57885187 +>>57881855 +I'm a SOT looking for plans, not looking to set a trap for myself buying something I'd otherwise be legally allowed to have. +--- 57885305 +>>57873867 +Wish.com, Ebay, Newegg, Aliexpress, you name it. Pretty much every Chinese website is flooding the US with these. I wouldn't even be surprised if this is an official CCP operation aimed at destabilizing politics in the US by ramping up urban crime warfare. +--- 57885320 +>>57874928 +>Mfw the bullets just bounced off his blubler +--- 57886033 +It just aint fair guys. I wish I was born black! +--- 57886064 +>>57882345 +>specifically saying shit like "I AM GOING TO KILL (politician)" is a threat and is not legal. + +there are plenty of people who threatened publicly on social media to kill trump and there are videos of the FBI arriving at their house and doing nothing at all because it's free speech. you're just wrong + +also the retard here >>57881704 + needs to read this +--- 57886090 +>>57882345 +>there are been enough terrorists from 4chan that the feds would be stupid to not take every threat seriously + +you cannot possibly know if anyone on this website is a terrorist, and sheer probability is against you. it's very hard to be a terrorist, not easy. + +mass shooters aren't even terrorists neither are countries that invade other countries killing tens of millions of people. killing people doesn't mean terrorism and there is no such thing as a domestic terrorist. even if there were... people can do whatever they want - mind your own business +--- 57886791 +>>57874928 +Why any cop would approach a nigger in a vehicle with anything less than an M4 set to full giggle I'll never understand. +--- 57887785 +>>57881494 +niggers are untrainable idiots, they're feral and only good for proving gun laws dont work. +--- 57887808 +>>57873845 (OP) +How do these even work? Wouldn't it cause the Glock to slam fire? +--- 57889262 +>>57876339 +>supply is limited +The files to print one are freely available. $200 for the printer and a few cents worth of filament. +--- 57889270 +>>57889262 +in a way that doesn't cause the BATFE to come kill my dog +--- 57889296 +>>57889270 +They're lack the man hours to monitor even a fraction of that stuff. +Thousands of printers change hand every day, most for lawful purposes. The hosting sites see millions in traffic. No one is going to know. If you're really that much a of a bed wetter I'll put a copy on catbox. +--- 57889303 +>>57889296 +no I mean, if I start shooting this thing at the range +--- 57889322 +>>57889303 +then don't do that? +The point is not to be out gunned when crossing spooksville. +better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 anon. +--- 57889328 +>>57889322 +I'm fine with semi for that purpose +--- 57889498 +>>57881704 +>they've caught feds hundreds of times on 4chan. +--- 57889516 +>>57873867 +I am convinced that the fbi and the cia are actually just dumping bags of them in random coon towns +--- 57889676 +>>57877012 +Shut the fuck up shitskin. You're retarded. +--- 57890726 +>>57881833 +>>57882044 +queers who stole digits and told people to go buy dindu brand giggle switches from the upright chinamen. + +glownigger fed hang your discord tranny ass from a tree BY YOUR PRE-OP BALLS +>>57885187 +if you were, you would have a email folder full of daily email sales on shit like this. manufacturers and dealers get shit cheaper than youd believe and mark it up like crazy. +yes even the gcode for it. +--- 57891029 +>>57890726 +>shit like this +>yes even the gcode for it. +I can tell you don't know what your talking about. There is no real trade for full auto stuff outside of sturmgewehr and GunBroker, especially with the ATF cracking down on law letters they have been arbitrarily deciding don't count because they don't have real application. Manufacturers don't typically share gcode for anything cool because it would cut into their own production... Well especially not gcode because that'd be for their specific machine. + +Gatalog/defcad/oddsee have some stuff if your willing to filter through 1000x mods to the same thing and modify it for metal vs additive manufacturing. + +But there is no good resource for real parts readily available for licensed manufacturers. + +And as far as "cheap" goes, accessories are typically cheaper than market, but serialized parts are at the low buy it now price on GunBroker. +--- 57891576 +>>57876352 +Purchasing the FA parts for guns that were around in 1986 is fine, but it is illegal to actually convert something to FA. Like you can buy m16 auto Sears, but you can’t drill the hole in the receiver to assemble it all together. +--- 57891644 +>>57874928 +Source? I think I remember seeing this on police activity, but from the officer’s POV +--- 57891662 +>>57874928 +Nvm, found the source + +For those interested: + +https://youtu.be/4zFrF8PCR08 [Embed] diff --git a/k/57874395.txt b/k/57874395.txt index 5fab1e74c715a2d6e6fa6a419efd36dfc87c487b..eac8977c34bc85c9d28584d7c829c6275296cc7a 100644 --- a/k/57874395.txt +++ b/k/57874395.txt @@ -106,3 +106,225 @@ It's a Marlin Model 60 I picked up in 2008 and I have no intention of ever repla --- 57879412 >You bought cheap and stacked deep, it's okay to actually shoot all of that .22. Please? I should pull the ol' Marlin out more. Wish I had a plinkable yard, I'm sure I would. +--- 57881143 +>>57878702 +Mauser? +--- 57881230 +>>57874395 (OP) +>I've been sitting in your Dad's gun cabinet since you grew up and got too big for me. +>One day you're going to give me to your son though, right? +Sorry little Ruger. Things didn't quite work out that way. I'm gonna come get you and bring you home to my safe though. You can meet all the new guns. +--- 57881367 +>>57874395 (OP) +>my bayonet is still bent, bashd meg! +--- 57882658 +>>57874638 +You need to take better care of your guns, my guy. +--- 57882730 +>>57874395 (OP) +>Why don't you shoot me more anon? +After shooting +>Clean me you lazy piece of shit. Also, I chewed up all your brass. +still fun though. +--- 57882768 +>hey faggot, how about you take me to get some duck instead of skeet shooting again +--- 57882897 +>>57874395 (OP) + +Why don't you shoot me anymore? + +Because I noticed the amount of wear on the side of your chamber, and I want to leave some use left on you for my child. + + +I do think the wear is being caused by the extractor, I could potentially lengthen its life by removing it, but then you would have to extract each shot with your fingernail. +--- 57882979 +Lakefield mk2 +>thanks for taking my shooting again . I love you too anon +--- 57883032 +>>57874395 (OP) +I know you haven't shot me in a while but will you at least get the sight pusher and actually fix my rear sight +--- 57883045 +Sako P72 22LR with heawy barrell, target stock and riflescope; why did you sell me? +--- 57883073 +>>57874395 (OP) +>get that staple out of my trigger +--- 57884150 +>>57881230 +>Sorry little Ruger. Things didn't quite work out that way. +Unless you're brown, have children. +--- 57885061 +>>57874395 (OP) +>first gun ever +A russian tokarev which would scream at me for not shooting her more often and taking 2 years to find a replacement firing pin detent pin out of lazyness. +--- 57885703 +>receive little .22 rifle from great grandfather as a gift +>don't know him well, but I'm the fourth generation to have it and we're both excited +>go out into his yard and shoot some oranges +>take it home and eagerly await next chance to use it +>chance never comes +>father is a stunted manbaby who doesn't want me interfering with his hobbies, so he avoids ever taking me out to shoot it +>know he would've ruined the experience anyway +>take it with me when I move out, he tries to fight me on it +>live in shitty rent houses in college town, nowhere to shoot +>gun goes back to sitting in a closet, gets thought about very little +>fast forward 14 years +>father and I don't speak often, great grandfather has been dead for some time +>I have two boys and a girl on the way +>having kids and knowing what it feels like to be a dad has only deepened my contempt for how he handled everything +>I shoot regularly and have more guns and ammo than he does +>remember the little .22 +>take it out, clean it, oil it, test it +>feeling unexpectedly emotional about it, choking up and wishing things had been different +>realize that like my great grandfather, I barely got to know this gun at all +>both were because of my father not wanting me around +>realize I'm projecting my feelings toward my great grandfather into this gun +>feel like this gun has a soul to it, and regardless of who's fault it was, I've failed to nurture it +>put the gun back in the closet +>promise in my head that it'll get to know my boys better than me +Take your kids shooting. This stuff matters. +--- 57885993 +>>57885703 +Sorry that your Dad is that way, but maybe things happen for a reason and your children will be blessed by your abounding love toward them. Try not to harbor any bitterness, that ain't good for a person. + +First gun was a Kimber 1911 TLE 1 I think, full size .45 +>we had some great times anon but I'm in a better place now. These guys really enjoy 1911s and I see that your getting along just fine with that glock harlot. +--- 57886174 +>>57874395 (OP) +"Tpeбaлo јe дa бyдeм y Capaјeвy, нe oвдe." +--- 57886185 +>>57874395 (OP) +WHy do you point me at your head so much? +--- 57886270 +>>57874395 (OP) +>STOP SHOOTING ME THERE’S A TINY DENT IN MY BARREL!! +Just noticed granpappy’s 12 guage has been one heavy load away from stealing some fingers for the last 5 years. +Can you repair db barrels from the 50s or is going above the mantlepiece? +--- 57886343 +>>57884150 +>Have kids +Wanted to. Ex wife did not. Now I'm at a point in my life where I'm kinda too old to start over. So I shoot and I hunt and I come on here with you guys and talk about retarded shit like what if my guns could talk. +--- 57886615 +>>57874395 (OP) +>DP-12 +"You are an idiot for buying me... I love you too" +--- 57886658 +>>57886270 +How bad is it do you mind taking a picture? +--- 57886738 +>>57874395 (OP) +>Well well well, if it isn't mister flinchyboy? +--- 57886746 +>>57886343 +Go cream pie an 18 year old. IF you're white. +--- 57886824 +>SKS +"Yeah you fucking retard, my sights were fine BYLAT." +>Hi Point 9mm +"Atleast you gave me a chance, anon." +>P80 Glawk +"Sorry for being jealous daddy. Please come back to 9mm. Think about all the good times we had together." + +As for the new twins +"Aren't we so much better than 9mm? You finally got away from those 'little girls' and got with some real women. Lots of men have been tempted by those hag .45 guns, but why would you want some ancient fat hog? 10mm is perfect. Modern, Thick, Powerful, and Fast enough to compete with magnum revolvers." + +Anyone that complains about 10mm recoil needs BTFO'd. Even buffalo bore doesn't meaningfully increase recoil to bad levels. But when you let soi fbi agents shoot guns what do you expect. +--- 57886874 +>>57874395 (OP) +"fix me already you fuck" +--- 57886925 +>>57874395 (OP) +>first gun +Listen I know I was rough around the edges but that doesn't make it okay to pawn me off +>oldest gun I still own +Hey thanks for not getting rid of me and all but your dad shot me a lot more than you've ever done. What the fuck is up with that? Don't give me that ammo cost cope, I've seen tons of new guns come and go so I know you can afford to shoot me. Do I not excite you anymore? You loved me when you were a youngin +>oldest handgun +Fix me you lazy fucking faggot +--- 57886939 +>>57874395 (OP) +FIrst gun +> that I shot - my grandfather's Remington Model 12 w/ octagonal barrel & corncob front end +"Why did you let your uncle's shew wife give that beautiful rifle to a gun buyback?" +> that I bought - Colt HBAR AR-15 +"Why'd you sell me?" +--- 57887816 +>>57882897 +Could try for getting a custom one made from a softer metal like aluminum, hard to put a price on sentiment. +--- 57887830 +>>57886343 +Got any nephews? +--- 57887940 +>>57885703 +I don't know if you had it better or worse, anon. My grandfathers were all dead beats, and my dad at least made the overtures of caring, but if anything came up in his own hobby groups, you can bet your ass he chose them over me every time. +It really fucking hurt, having what you could have dangled in your face all the time. We don't talk. +--- 57887958 +>>57886738 +haven't had a chance to post this one in a while. +--- 57888011 +>>57886939 +Why did you sell your AR? +--- 57888023 +>Remove kebab. +--- 57888029 +>>57874395 (OP) +my current gun is an A2 clone that I built but it originally had an A4 upper, the A4 upper with detachable carry handle is in storage in a little box made for it and I keep the A2 on for the most part (receiver is one of those govt roll stamped A2s) so which would talk? the A2 or the A4 upper. +--- 57888233 +>>57888029 +A2 +--- 57888257 +>>57888233 +but did I kill the A4? is it just a floating brain? a corpse from the waist up? +--- 57888366 +>Stop coming up with excuses for why we can't go to the range this week you lazy faggot, it's been months, and don't give me that "b-but, I don't want to blow through all my ammo too fast" shit, you have over 4000 rounds. +--- 57888393 +>>57888257 +you overthink it man soul is bolt heart is barrel my friend +--- 57888476 +>>57874395 (OP) +"ayyyyy nigga we finna get into some shit?" + +My first gun was a Hi Point JHP 45 i got for free in 2010 +--- 57888505 +>>57874395 (OP) +>Why wasn't *I* worth an optic? +--- 57888606 +>>57874395 (OP) +>>57888393 +A2 completed rifle +>I know you bought me for the carry handle anon, but will you stop racking me every five seconds? also stop holding me by the carry handle how would you like it if someone held you by your hair? + +A4 upper sitting in the box +>Father why have you cast me aside, I know my older sister is more favourable to you but please at least grant me the dignity of a complete body. I miss our time together... +--- 57888768 +>>57887958 +L-lewd... +--- 57888816 +>>57888393 +>doesn't know his waffengeist lore +bolt is both heart and mind, barrel is mouth +--- 57888945 +>>57874395 (OP) +>"I know I'm just a chinese version of the real thing, but I'm reliable and good looking, too! Take me out at least once a year, please? I promise I feel better than that romanian you bought to replace me..." +--- 57889073 +>>57886746 +I am in fact White. That's why my life sounds like a country song. If I run into an 18yo White girl who needs a daddy I'll make sure to add some cream to her peaches though. + +>>57887830 +Nope, but I do spend some of my time teaching other people how to shoot; coworkers, friends, women who want to into self defense. One of my coworkers has a son who might get some good use out of that old .22. It's a single shot bolt action though. Kinda tempted to ask his dad if I could kick in and we could get him a 10/22 +--- 57889396 +>>57874395 (OP) +Why did you TRADE ME TO A FUCKING MACHINE GUNNER FOR AN ACOG +--- 57889447 +>>57874395 (OP) +should have waited for the p365 with a slide cut that allows co-witnessing +--- 57889482 +>>57886270 +How the fuck do you dent a shotgun? Did your granpappy face off Bugs Bunny at some point? +--- 57890674 +>>57889482 +I chipped the plastic of my Mossberg 590 when I slammed the buttstock into a window to try and bust it. It busted near where your hand goes, which was odd. +--- 57890754 +>>57888945 +1897? +--- 57891156 +>>57886658 +Off at the gunsmith now but he hasn’t said if it’s repairable. It’s like the size of a pencil tip but you can see it inside the barrel so I rlly don’t want to fuck with it. diff --git a/k/57875029.txt b/k/57875029.txt index 07470c380011506b3b8b9fa9278aa17e5e915607..222423edf374333c8896d161c600272f97f9b9d2 100644 --- a/k/57875029.txt +++ b/k/57875029.txt @@ -109,3 +109,244 @@ Because Indonesians are cowards who don't even recognize Kosovo. --- 57879502 >>57878079 duplicitous,perfidious, sunburned, Albions +--- 57879757 +>>57878079 +I (an Australian) personally support Papua reunification because border gore triggers me +--- 57879787 +>>57878201 +>some random papuan gets to fingerfuck and use a steyr +>i cant even own one +--- 57879809 +>>57878272 +>grease gun +>FAL +>Galil +>Longbow +Unfathomably based +>ywn dab on Jungle asian "special forces" with your homemade longbow and 80yr old grease gun +--- 57880565 +>>57879472 +Nah, Indons are still in their "non-aligned movement" phase from the Cold War. They have a national neurosis about foreign influence on their shores, so their tendency is to go full insular and autarkic. But yeah, otherwise, they're not gonna be reliable allies in any shooting war. They're like the India of SEA in that respect, but without a real bone to pick with China. +--- 57880647 +>>57880565 +>Nah, Indons are still in their "non-aligned movement" phase from the Cold War. They have a national neurosis about foreign influence on their shores +Malaysia, Brunei and even Singapore recognize Kosovo. +Indonesians go out of their way not to recognize Kosovo. + +Indonesia and Malaysia went out of their way to criticize the AUKUS submarine deal. +> https://theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/19/we-are-worried-indonesia-and-malaysia-express-concern-over-australias-nuclear-submarine-plan +> https://channelnewsasia.com/commentary/aukus-australia-nuclear-asean-china-south-sea-tension-2191776 +Mind you, it doesn't matter whether the submarine is diesel powered or nuclear powered. A nuclear sub doesn't necessarily carry nuclear weapons and alternatively a diesel sub can also carry nuclear weapons. So the statements weren't based on real security concern and was purely political and meant to enamor China. + +>so their tendency is to go full insular and autarkic. +Indonesia produces nothing in terms of defense, but buys everyone from other countries. They also like to claim credit for shit they didn't create, like the Kaplan medium tank (Turkey) and the KF-21 fighter jet (South Korea). They are the furthest thing from autarkic. + +>They're like the India of SEA in that respect, but without a real bone to pick with China. +All of Maritime Southeast Asia has territorial disputes with China. +--- 57880651 +These Papua dudes are some bad motherfuckers +--- 57880945 +>>57880647 +nta but Indonesia and Malaysia release new statements on AUKUS in 2023 +>https://www.kln.gov.my/web/guest/-/enhanced-trilateral-security-partnership-between-australia-the-united-kingdom-and-the-united-states-of-america-aukus- +>https://twitter.com/kemlu_ri/status/1635487830314217473?s=61&t=ox7wiYMgklaiYRyHyhJCJw +the 2021 statements focus on arms race while 2023 is softer and focus on calls for transparency and NPT commitments +--- 57880973 +>>57880647 +>Indonesians go out of their way not to recognize Kosovo. +How does this refute my argument? A lot of countries don't recognize Kosovo for geopolitical reasons, especially countries like Indonesia which have actual secessionist movements going on, simply because recognition would imply some kind of legitimacy to unilateral declarations of sovereignty. That's why Spain doesn't recognize Kosovo either despite being in NATO and the EU. +>Indonesia and Malaysia went out of their way to criticize the AUKUS submarine deal. +For Malaysia, there's definitely an element of wanting to be on the Chinese good side, and yeah, Indonesia is the same to a degree. But in general Indonesia views SEA as its backyard and wants to turn the region into a big neutral zone. That's why they've been trying so hard to turn Jakarta into the Brussels of SEA. +>Indonesia produces nothing in terms of defense, but buys everyone from other countries. +The Indons have to rely on foreign purchases like pretty much every non-major military, but in the first place, they force foreign partners into joint ventures because they want that domestic capability for themselves. But if you look at their trade policy outside the military, it's a sea of export bans, non-tariff barriers and foreign equity restrictions. Economic nationalism and autarky is a very strong idea in Indonesia compared to the rest of SEA. +>All of Maritime Southeast Asia has territorial disputes with China. +Yeah, but China's 9-dash line over the Natuna islands is really a nothingburger compared to the Spratlys or Paracels, let alone India's long, if inhospitable border with China. To India, China is a powerful and ever-present enemy. To the Indonesians, China's saber-rattling is annoying, but they're still more than happy to sell all their nickel to them. +--- 57880988 +Are the vtubers safe? +--- 57881010 +>>57880651 +It's the blend of mixed salad hodgepodge gear and tribal attire that really makes the aesthetic for me. +--- 57881020 +>>57880647 +>Indonesia and Malaysia went out of their way to criticize the AUKUS submarine deal. +retard take +yeah, there's no way for them to oppose it + +but it's symbolically saying to china +>we're not a part of this +--- 57881137 +>>57876776 +he has a widened anus right now +and he loves it +--- 57881157 +>>57880647 +>Malaysia went out of their way to criticize the AUKUS submarine deal. +Aren't they part of the FPDA? Why would they object to their closest ally gaining better capability? +--- 57881224 +>losing to barely stone age spearchuckers. + +The absolute state of Indonesia, we're not like this even on a bad day. + +t. Flip. +--- 57881332 +>>57878118 +>China: build the dildos +> USA: Brings the dildos to your childrens school...with intent +China 1 - 0 USA +Death to ZOG +--- 57881353 +>>57879809 +No FALs or galils, just variants of domestic produced FNCs by Indonesia. +--- 57881451 +>>57881224 +C'mon now, don't stir shit up, we're one of the few neighbors Indons are actually cool with +--- 57882470 +>>57881157 +they dont see>>57880945 +--- 57882546 +>>57875029 (OP) + +OP is fucking Malayshit vermin disguise as Indonesians to spreading fake news. + +OP ialah Malon bankrupt anjing ingris +--- 57882614 +>>57880647 +>>57879472 + +Found the Malingshit vermin. You Malon retard couldn't even survive a single day once the mighty Garuda Indonesia destroyed your shitty "armed forces". +--- 57882712 +>>57882546 +OP here. sorry anon, lot of genuine malingshit in this thread, but I am 100% indog. This clusterfuck is fucking embarassing and there is no point denying it. +--- 57882756 +>>57882546 +>>57882614 +>B +>R +>O +>W +>N +--- 57882761 +>>57875029 (OP) +In a fight between Kopassus, VDV and Unit 777 who would lose the hardest? +--- 57882771 +Hopefully those abbo pygmies get napalmed +--- 57882842 +>>57881353 +Most of their weapons are from Indonesia +They stab soldiers with spears to loot their stuff +Sometimes corrupt soldiers sell their guns for food (lmao) +>https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/422136/papua-liberation-army-sold-arms-by-indonesian-military +>Kogeya said he bought ammunition and weapons from the TNI and Police because that was their way of accessing food while posted in Papua. +--- 57883858 +>>57882842 +this is just plain zigger tier propaganda. +--- 57886572 +>>57875029 (OP) +>Kopassus + +How? Isn't that Kopassus is the best Indonesia special forces ever? The tip of the spear, the creme de la creme of Indonesia Armed Forces? The best special forces ever that unrivalled. Even American General admitted that SINGLE Kopasssus operator are much much worthy than whole regiment of US Navy SEALs? How come they got raped by a bunch spear chucking Papuan natives? +--- 57886762 +>>57886572 +>bunch spear chucking Papuan natives +That's the problem, they expected dried grass as a weapon +--- 57886821 +>>57879472 +Chinks always think that paying bribes gives them influence and then they impotently seethe and cry when the bribed party pulls a Bane and asks if they feel in charge. +--- 57887631 +>>57876950 +Proofs? +--- 57887781 +>>57882761 +My sides, of course +--- 57888081 +Kill jawakadrun. Behead jawakadrun. Roundhouse kick a jawakadrun into the concrete. Slam dunk a jawakadrun baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy jawak. Defecate in a jawakadrun food. Launch jawakadrun into the sun. Stir fry jawakadrun in a wok. Toss jawakadrun into active volcanoes. Urinate into a jawakadrun gas tank. Judo throw jawakadrun into a wood chipper. Twist jawakadrun heads off. Report jawakadrun to the IRS. Karate chop jawakadrun in half. Curb stomp pregnant jawakadrun. Trap jawakadrun in quicksand. Crush jawakadrun in the trash compactor. Liquefy jawakadrun in a vat of acid. Eat jawakadrun. Dissect jawakadrun. Exterminate jawakadrun in the gas chamber. Stomp jawakadrun skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate jawakadrun in the oven. Lobotomize jawakadrun. Mandatory abortions for jawakadrun. Grind jawakadrun fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown jawakadrun in fried chicken grease. Vaporize jawakadrun with a ray gun. Kick old jawakadrun down the stairs. Feed jawakadrun to alligators. Slice jawakadrun with a katana. +--- 57888217 +>>57875029 (OP) + +>Jakarta decided to send reinforcement +>Transported Army Special Forces General alongside squadron of premier Tier-1 Kopassus, Satgas, Detachment -88 and Kopaska operators on Indonesian Air Force B-737 +>Immediately crash + +How? +--- 57888279 +>>57875029 (OP) +one race the human race +--- 57888430 +>>57887631 +>proofs + +For which bit, the hostage or nothing interesting happening in Indonesia? Here’s a link about the hostage and this current shitshow. + +https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65295678.amp +--- 57888977 +https://en.tempo.co/read/1716228/tni-denies-9-soldiers-killed-by-armed-group-in-nduga-papua + +The Indonesian National Army (TNI) denied claims by an armed criminal group that they had killed nine TNI soldiers during an attack in Nduga, Papua on Saturday, April 15, 2023. Head of the TNI Information Center Rear Admiral Julius Widjojono said that soldiers who had been separated because of the attack had begun to be able to regroup with their units. + +"The current development is very positive, the troops have started to gather," Julius said via text message on Monday, April 17, 2023. + +Julius said that the TNI continues to maintain communication with field personnel to gather information about the development of the situation. Julius said that the TNI is still recording the number of personnel who managed to regroup with their units. + +The Raider Infantry Battalion 321/Galuh Taruna was attacked by an armed group in Nduga on Saturday, April 15, 2023. The team was approaching the location where Susi Air pilot Philip Mark Marthens had been taken hostage by the armed groups on February 7 this year. + +The TNI said that it lost one of its soldiers, First Private Miftahul Arifin, who took a shot and fell 15 meters into a ravine. + +Meanwhile, the West Papua National Liberation Army-Free Papua Organization (TPNPB-OPM) claimed they shot dead nine TNI members during the attack. The TPNPB-OPM spokesman Sebby Sambom also claimed that they had stolen nine weapons from the TNI. + +Julius said that Sebby's claim was a lie and asked the public not to believe it. Julius said that the Commander of the Indonesian National Armed Forces, Admiral Yudo Margono, is currently visiting Papua to meet face-to-face with troops and they will hold a press conference. +--- 57889036 +>>57888279 +Did we found the missing link between apes and humans? +--- 57889051 +>>57875029 (OP) +RAISE THE MORNING STAR +--- 57889165 +>>57878040 +highly politicized +>>57878079 +lolno Australia supports Jakartas imperialism and crimes +>>57878101 +trained by US and Australia +>>57878272 +I love that some them go into battle in their traditional native garb and even use bows +these are people will never ever give up on independence +/k/ can be tacticool and prepped and be grey man and have go bag all day long but this is what it really looks like +>>57878397 +Indonesia and Western multinationals has been raping West Papua of resources for decades +Same thing happened with East Timors demographics during its occupation +>>57879472 +>decades ago +they were doing it in the 2000s +>>57881137 +The Papuans are a mixture of Lutherans and traditional animist beliefs +It is the Indonesians who go around raping +>>57881224 +According to Peter Dunns book Timor: A People Betrayed in the first ~two years of Indonesias occupation of East Timor they may have lost as many as 5,000 troops to the Timorese resistance movements insurgency +Units were having to be rotated out after just a few months due to low morale, commanders were making deals with local cells to not go on patrol in exchange for not being attacked +>>57882761 +Also according to the book in the paradrop on Dili most of the Indonesian troops landed in the harbor and drowned +And the regular troops that did make it into the city were more concerned about looting and raping the Chinese district +>>57886572 +Corruption and nepotism +Control and placement in of different elements of the Indonesian military has more to do with Jakartas wealthy families and blocs than actual qualification and ability +--- 57889218 +>>57880988 +Asking the important question. +--- 57889228 +>57889165 +you are a retard +--- 57889240 +>>57888279 +>>57889036 +Australian Aborginals, Torres Straight Islanders, Papuans, and Solomon Islanders all descend from Dravidians +--- 57889256 +>>57875029 (OP) +why is he wearing a monkey mask? +--- 57889258 +>>57889165 +>According to Peter Dunns book Timor: A People Betrayed in the first ~two years of Indonesias occupation of East Timor they may have lost as many as 5,000 troops to the Timorese resistance movements insurgency +>Units were having to be rotated out after just a few months due to low morale, commanders were making deals with local cells to not go on patrol in exchange for not being attacked +With the situation spiraling out of control like that the Indonesians probably would have become amendable to a negotiated withdrawal if the West had politely and firmly suggested it +Instead the Great Humanitarian Jimmy Carter authorized a new arms package that included OV-10 Broncos and napalm to strike the mountainous interior of Timor where rebels had made their bases and many refugees had fled +--- 57889271 +do the West Papuans use Phantom Shields like in PNG? diff --git a/k/57875883.txt b/k/57875883.txt index c28e85f2bf6dde5d610084db6dbc66973c7e8b6d..c264f4fcbd4aec11996f464ffbdd9fb70d35eb3c 100644 --- a/k/57875883.txt +++ b/k/57875883.txt @@ -70,3 +70,339 @@ I am not seeing ERA on Fat Man or Little Boy. I am disappointed in the lack of i --- 57879313 >>57876266 That's nice +--- 57879670 +>>57879284 +--- 57879680 +>>57879670 +>ERA teeth +Cyberpunk as fuck. +--- 57879700 +No era toyota pickemup trucks? +--- 57879978 +Polish aid has arrived. No need for ERA, is perfect already. +--- 57880109 +>>57880087 +>Centurii-chan +--- 57880113 +I need the one where they put ERA on either a jet or a tank and the german takes out a gun +--- 57880120 +>>57880113 +This one? +--- 57880130 +>>57880120 +perfect +but isnt there one way less detailed ? +--- 57880132 +>>57879978 +Complete with historically-accurate plop of horse shit. +--- 57880174 +who are these and why are they everywhere +--- 57880213 +>>57880204 +>meme about how Ukrainians are slavshits and don't understand how to properly use the gear they're being given +>someone HATO propaganda +--- 57880284 +>>57880213 +Sure m8, slavshits, don't understand, yada-yada +Try to force this shit all you want, it still won't change the fact that +A) ERA is good. Even ancient Kontakt 1 improves protection quite substantially, and Nizh is basically a 1-Up for tanks +B) ERA'd Leo did not have any additional armor packages, so extra protection was very much needed +C) "slavshits" have a functioning MIC while being at war with "world's second army". All your shithole managed to do was turning on some microwaves without doors and shooting down a bomber that flew over the same spot for 1000th time +--- 57880329 +Russia did it better +--- 57880400 +>>57880329 +>the fucking scooby-doo van with ERA +speechless +--- 57880621 +>>57880204 +>>57880284 +>My politics precludes me from having fun or allowing fun ever +I pity you. +--- 57880845 +>>57880204 +>no fun allowed +--- 57880887 +>>57878784 +--- 57881014 +>>57875883 (OP) +The captured T-90M at Bovington already has ERA +--- 57881205 +>>57881014 +>not double stacking ERA on your ERA +--- 57881236 +>>57876266 +Must you sexualize EVERYTHING? +--- 57881277 +>>57880284 +lol, calm down. +--- 57881324 +>>57881277 +I just can't stand this faggot, dude. His every post on this board is "muh slavshits" +--- 57881410 +>>57876266 +>>57876941 +They look like they fuck Americans instead of Europeans who has been supporting them more than any other party in the war. +--- 57881649 +>>57877549 +>>57877384 +>real women have lots of fucked up bits if you look closely +>but its not ok when AI does it +--- 57881669 +>>57880329 +Do you think they know the ERA will kill them and just don't care because anything that sets it off will kill them anyway? +--- 57881699 +>>57881324 +Just stop being a slavshit. Easy. +--- 57881803 +>>57881324 +Just grow thicker skin, fag +--- 57881895 +>>57880204 +are you crying? +--- 57881916 +>>57881410 +They fuck eachother +--- 57881939 +>>57881236 +yes +--- 57881951 +If you put ERA bricks on a WW2 tank, like a Sherman or a Panzer, would they stand a chance against an RPG? +--- 57881957 +>>57880204 +I thought it was originally a vatnik meme to make fun of ukies for using "cope bricks" + +t. in a friend group with a pro-RU artist who is among the first one to draw these +--- 57881970 +>>57876266 +>everything has to be sexualized into a woman +No wonder this site is overran with troons +--- 57881972 +>>57881957 +I thought russians slapped ERA on everything as well +--- 57881994 +>>57881970 +Nigger how new are you? +--- 57882002 +>>57881972 +Yea i thought that was funny too, wanted to point that out to her but I don't wanna be rude +--- 57882132 +>>57880329 +Jesus christ Obama, you've really done it this time! +--- 57882172 +>>57881957 +>in a friend group with a pro-RU artist +Kill him. +Then yourself. +Do it. +--- 57882173 +>>57881970 +>getting upset +>at rule34 +>something as old as 4chan itself +--- 57882181 +>>57881957 +>pro-RU artist +How mentally ill are they in general? +--- 57882194 +>>57882173 +Um sweaty that's rule 63 +--- 57882217 +>>57882172 +It's not up to me dude, the place is just a hangout group that welcomes basically any weapons/militaria nerds, not unlike /k/ + +>>57882181 +They're usually pretty high on copium, it's kinda sad +--- 57882264 +>>57880204 +Would you like some monkey Putin? Russians raping each other? Or the battleship turret welded on a APC? +--- 57882295 +>>57879978 +>that pile of shit +CLEAN IT UP JANNY +--- 57882343 +>>57881957 +It started out as an joke on r/noncredibledefense about Ukrainian modifications of western donated tanks, I think. +--- 57882516 +>>57882407 +The Ukrainians show promise. +--- 57882523 +>https://youtu.be/DK5s--KSmrc [Embed] +So what is /k/ weapon for the war of meme? +--- 57882638 +>>57876266 +YES + +>>57881236 +YES +--- 57882667 +>>57881410 +Retard +--- 57882855 +>>57882523 +underrated comment +--- 57882900 +>>57882343 +Yup. First everyone joked that Leos are gonna get ERA'd the moment they cross the border, then a photo of ERA'd Leo appeared, and everyone lost their minds +--- 57883114 +>>57882343 +>>57882900 +As far as I know this was the first. +--- 57883128 +>>57883114 +Love this shit +--- 57883275 +You might to want to save some images from this thread before it dies: +>>57846570 → +>>57846681 → +>>57846710 → +>>57846738 → +>>57846856 → +>>57846891 → +>>57846922 → +>>57846979 → +>>57847052 → + +shameless plug +>>57847455 → +--- 57883313 +I was under the impression that ERA bricks stopped being effective against anti-tank missiles made in the 80s. Unlike an APS which MIGHT stop an anti-tank missile...made in the 90s. +--- 57883342 +>Alternative reality where Russian tanks have APS +--- 57883400 +>>57883313 +Depends on the model, the more common Kontakt 1 is mostly only good for dealing with old fashioned HEAT warheads like what an RPG-7 is normally equipped with, however it's ineffective against tandem warhead designs. Supposedly Russian Relikt is supposed to defend against tandem warhead by being a two stage design +--- 57883511 +>>57883114 +That's the first with the sockpuppet guys. But there have been photoshops floating around of Abrams/Leo2s with digital camo, Kontakt-1, and Maxim guns on them for months. +--- 57883620 +>>57883128 +>that turret in the background +*chef's kiss* +--- 57883846 +>>57881324 +Lurk moar dumb slavfag +--- 57883857 +>>57883128 +>>57883620 +Fuck'n saved! +I will never stop laughing at these +--- 57883898 +>>57882002 +ah 'cmon bro, srsl +--- 57883987 +>>57881236 +rule 34 newfag +--- 57883988 +>>57882900 +>First everyone joked that Leos are gonna get ERA'd +maybe because Leo 2a4 is not armored good enough to protect on modern battlefield? +>AAAAAAAAAAH, THEY ARE USING ADDITIONAL ARMOR PROTECTION ON TANKS, I"M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE +--- 57885752 +>>57882523 +This is nice. +--- 57886350 +>>57881970 +Would you prefer it if it was sexualized into a man? +--- 57886365 +>>57880120 +>RED SUN +>RED SUN OVER PARADISE +--- 57886379 +>>57886365 +Meant for +>>57880087 +--- 57886392 +>>57882132 +Vatniks stole his melanin. +Can't have shit in Bakhmut. +--- 57886426 +>>57886333 +ERA could have prevented this. +--- 57886482 +>>57882523 +I could sense Otto Carius looking down and smiling as he watched this +--- 57886497 +>>57886426 +prove this wrong +--- 57886536 +>>57881410 +>They look like they fuck Americans +...Because they have big thighs? +--- 57886602 +>>57876266 +>>57876941 + +why do i want r34 of them so badly +--- 57887309 +>>57886673 +Behead those who disrespect the /k/ube +--- 57887507 +>>57887309 +Brother, they're adding more weapons to it. If anything they're glorifying the /k/ube further by making it more explodey. +--- 57887685 +>>57875883 (OP) +>>57876006 +>>57876266 +>>57877604 +>>57876941 +>>57878784 +>>57879670 +>>57880087 +>>57880120 +I think the art is kinda fun looking but I don't understand what these things are or what makes it funny to glue them to everything. +I understand that they are a kind of armor. So if you stick them to a tank does that give it more armor? Which is a good thing? +I'm a revolver and bolt action nerd. I know fuck all about tanks or planes so I don't understand why putting these little green squares on tanks and planes is so funny. +--- 57887769 +>>57887685 +Explosive Reactive Armor. Each brick has a layer of explosives which detonate when hit by anti-tank weapons. The energy will cause the flyer plates to disrupt the projectile or HEAT jet, adding effective armor without having to bolt heavy steel or composite to an already heavy vehicle. +--- 57887792 +>>57887685 +They are little bombs that dissipate and prematurely detonate incoming explosives. +They do work, but they are a little ridiculous and can be impractical or dangerous without proper armor. They'll also gib friendlies standing nearby. +--- 57887814 +>>57887685 +>>57887792 +There are also what's called "tandem warheads", where someone has slapped an ERA brick onto the tip of the missile to detonate enemy ERA bricks before they can explode the missile. +--- 57887977 +>>57887814 +yeah that's assuming they have an RPG-29 ready +>>57887792 +Ukraine also has an ERA for kinetic penetrators but idk if it works https://youtu.be/qWgXC6PZx2c?t=102 [Embed] +the ERA module itself is smaller than Kontakt-1 and fits within the readily available Kontakt-1 cover, so we never really know what they're throwing on the tanks. +--- 57888034 +>>57881236 +--- 57888646 +>>57879670 +--- 57888929 +>>57886333 +--- 57889297 +>>57886497 +Ooarai found new ways to launch armor. +--- 57889335 +>>57875883 (OP) +--- 57889443 +>>57882523 +Amazing +--- 57889474 +>>57882343 +>>57882900 +Western tenks hab era too +--- 57889588 +>>57889474 +proofs? +--- 57889635 +>>57887792 +To be more specific, current conventional ERA works best when the plates sandwiching the explosive are moved in such a way that they constantly move new material into the path of a superplastic metal jet or long rod projectile. The general concept can be called the "mass-flux model". Thought of another way, this essentially like taking obstructive material from a wide area, and concentrating it exactly where the penetrator hits, making it much more effective for the weight. + +In theory this consumes valuable energy and forms interruptions in the case of superplastic jets, and the same in rigid penetrators along with the potential of inducing catastrophic vibrations, shear and breakage. (Last I checked there where also some potential experimental types of ERA that make use of linear shaped charges to essentially try to cut penetrators to pieces) + +While somehow destroying the liner of the incoming EFP warhead before the jet has a chance to fully form would be ideal, I am dubious about how often that would actually happen.The fuse on the EFP warhead is going to be more sensitive than the ERA and get triggered first. + +It should also be noted that the further away from the tank the ERA is (standoff), the more the effects of disrupting the various penetrators can significantly play out before the remains hit the main armor. Basically, the further away the the ERA is the better. + +Science informed /k/ommandos know that ERA should go on top of cope cages. +--- 57889761 +>>57886392 +--- 57889769 +>>57882523 diff --git a/k/57876662.txt b/k/57876662.txt index 281e501387ac74979bb9535dd38c5c72ee4e41ba..7dfa19f6c7d5cbc0eab4153a19b98908a503ead7 100644 --- a/k/57876662.txt +++ b/k/57876662.txt @@ -52,3 +52,109 @@ You mean wool hats, SSh-40s, Mosin-Nagants and PPSHs. --- 57878518 >>57877629 What’s this from? +--- 57879863 +>>57876773 +Kino can still be found in pictures but the problem is that the vast majority of russians fighting now are Wagner and they all wear some ugly universal camo not EMR. +--- 57880317 +>>57879863 +>the vast majority of russians fighting now are Wagner +Sure? I thought they were running out of prisoners and can't recruit any more +--- 57880327 +>>57880317 +I meant that the majority of combat footage from Russians side is from Wagner. idk what are you talking about tbqh +--- 57880334 +>>57880327 + +thats already ended a week ago + +they are mostly russian mobiks and regulars now fighting in bakhmut + +wagner is kaput +--- 57880350 +>>57880334 +don't take your info from UK intelligence. They really are the least intelligent intelligence in Europe. They only thing they ever got right was predicting the approximate date of the invasion which they got from USA. +--- 57880431 +>>57880350 + +It's not. Even the ukranians and ukranian telegrams are saying it + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9tlltpImVQ [Embed] +--- 57880447 +>>57880431 +I'm confused. Why would I take one side's opinion on the matter? But honestly it doesn't matter. let's not derail the thread. +--- 57881641 +>>57876858 +--- 57881861 +>>57876858 +I only have this one +--- 57881866 +>>57876823 +>>57881641 +>>57881641 +lolwtf +--- 57881981 +>>57880431 +Wagner storm battalions (cannon fodder) isn't exclusive to prisoners. Like the normal military they also have contractors sign up for high risk positions for big salaries compared to whatever they have around their shithole village. I dont think there are mobilized on the flanks or inside of Bakhmut I'm under the understanding that these guys are preparing defenses for the coming offensive. +Though I have seen mobilized being sent into the fire somewhere on the Donetsk axis so idk. Those guys seemed to have fucked up military papers and no official standing though so this seems to be more of a product of Russian fuckups rather than their actual plan +--- 57882038 +>>57876662 (OP) +Where legg +--- 57882060 +>>57877629 +>even in drawings girkin is perpetually sitting just to the left of a flag with a troubled look +--- 57882200 +>>57882124 +>We are actually going to see this in our lifetime + +Maybe this is the good timeline after all +--- 57882220 +>>57881861 +--- 57882352 +>>57882220 +>>57881861 +Reminds me of that black & white globohomo art /pol/ seems to always ramble about. +--- 57882853 +>>57882220 +>>57881641 +>>57881861 +>>57876823 +Absolute kino +--- 57882863 +>>57876823 +W-why? +--- 57882926 +>>57882863 +One man's autistic fetish is another's kino +--- 57883044 +>>57878385 +>if a unit uses AK-74's, they tend to have optics of some sort +I've barely seen any in the entire war +--- 57883769 +>>57882124 +Tankers are truly blind +--- 57883899 +Does anyone know the sauce of the image? Reverse image search turns up nothing +--- 57884805 +>>57876662 (OP) +VDV zisters....I don't feel so good... +--- 57885635 +>>57882124 +Fuck me, that looks completely like my village. +Maybe its good that the cold war never went hot. +--- 57885675 +>>57885635 +what country? +--- 57887227 +>>57876662 (OP) +--- 57887266 +>>57876662 (OP) +>Missing a leg +Apt +--- 57887285 +>>57877629 +Wtf, this shoot looks like an illustration from those 90s military info books.. who tf is making these? +--- 57889023 +>>57882564 +Who are these guys supposed to be? +--- 57890628 +>>57876662 (OP) diff --git a/k/57877001.txt b/k/57877001.txt index 9bc49ac0598169f6865b16ee07f0dd584b240d1c..1278de9537f3aa0b84e2497dfddc8018bd1c7253 100644 --- a/k/57877001.txt +++ b/k/57877001.txt @@ -75,3 +75,174 @@ Shot placement needs to be really taught more to soldiers and law enforcement. A --- 57878935 >>57877344 Yeah looks like first 5 shots were all in the diaphragm area, he was probably struggling to breath but definitely not down for the count. Was probably gonna die eventually what but the last one put him down immediately +--- 57880610 +>>57877001 (OP) +>Sign in to confirm age +Youtube, me signing up with an email and saying I'm 69 is no different from me just saying I'm 69. Stop trying to make me sign up just to artificially inflate your user statistics during the quarterly report. +--- 57880790 +>On social media, several friends and family members have expressed their anger over the shooting, saying police were called to help Murphy. +>"There's zero reason for them to shoot him like they did," one woman commented. +>"I'm beyond words right now. Dylan Murphy was an absolute awesome, down to earth guy who wouldn't harm a fly! I will miss you so much bro," one man wrote. +>His sister, Laecie Horn, has now watched that video of her brother’s death several times. “He was a good human. That’s it. He really was a good man, good little brother,” she said.” She said Dylan battled addiction and mental health issues, which is why her other brother KC called police on that night, March 26th. +>The sister continues, “That officer clearly fired another shot with his lights on,” she said. “He shoots another round into my brother who I clearly know at this point from seeing their footage that he was already dead. I wanna know specifically why the officers that I gave all that trust to specifically I didn’t go crazy this whole entire time, I trusted them. I waited for the footage to come out before I made any type of assumptions, and I’ve seen how crazy my brother was but then they doctored stuff.” (This is in relation to a RING camera footage, the two "didn't add up" and she's complaining about discrepancies in the police's accountability) + +>>57877743 +If only the officer had a .45 +--- 57881337 +That’s pretty normal desu. Almost every police shooting video I see, the cops are magdumping. When they have rifles though, it’s usually one or two shots. + +Also, the guy behaves and sounds as though he’s on drugs, so if that first burst of shots hit him, it could explain why he didn’t go down. It’s that or the cop missed entirely. +--- 57881681 +>>57880790 +> think brother may be suicidal +> surprised when he charges the armed men you requested to pick him up so he can _gasp_ commit suicide +I'm not a total asshole. I understand we don't really have much of an alternative when you need help for someone planning violence to themselves or others. But you cannot act indignant and surprised when the most plausible outcome occurs. +--- 57881968 +>>57881681 +I remember the Ronnie mcnutt suicide video. Someone watching the stream was concerned and call the cops, and they barged in right after he blew his head off. I scratched my head thinking what exactly are cops supposed to do in that situation, had they gotten there in time.. “hey don’t shoot yourself, or else... or else we’ll shoot you!”. + +Suicidal men are the only truly free people in the world. they’re free of biological imperatives at that point, and can’t be threatened with anything. +--- 57881979 +>>57877160 +drugs do not help your survive rapid arterial blood loss. drugs are not a berserk pack +--- 57884026 +>>57881979 +All evidence from police encountering belligerent drug addicts seems to contradict your post. +--- 57884362 +>>57884026 +Police are often garbage shots. Drugs reduce the likelihood of psychological stops which is what happens when your aim is shit and you hit people 5 times in the intestines and legs. So if you are incompetent and your gun is more pain compliance tool than lethal implement then drugs might be a really great excuse for why you suck ass. + +I’ve seen nothing to suggest that they greatly change the level of oxygen your brain needs to function on a cellular and molecular level which is where physical stops usually come from. Hell half the police shootings where nothing remarkable happens probably involve druggies anyway. +--- 57884390 +>>57884362 +Isn't there a webm of a dude walking forward gnashing his teeth like a demon while being shot multiple times in the chest? +--- 57884457 +>>57884390 +He was not stated to be on drugs as I recall. + +The blood already in the capillaries of the brain can sometimes sustain a couple seconds of action after circulatory flow ceases. Couple that with the fact that the cop was firing at a rather sedentary pace (and may have missed the first few shots due to his retarded gangsta one handed shooting) and handgun bullets do not generally destroy the heart or lungs with a single shot. Takes a couple seconds for the cop to do enough damage to shut down his blood flow, then a few more for his brain timer to run out, and he drops. +--- 57884738 +>>57884457 +And to be clear, aortic output will likely be reduced almost immediately after the first shot to the thoracic cavity. The successive shots increasingly cripple the cardiovascular system until the onset of cerebral hypoxia has reached its maximum rate and the brain receives no fresh blood at all. So technically the timer “starts” from the first chest shot but it counts down a lot faster as the heart and lungs are increasingly damaged. + +With all this in mind, said shootee might be said to have lasted an exceptionally long time (maybe about 2.5 seconds at continuously decreasing levels of partial circulatory function and another 2-3 after the system has stopped working) considering most people probably only have a second or so of meaningful standing capability after their brain stops getting more blood, but it is not really outside the realm of what we would expect to be theoretically possible. +--- 57884845 +>>57877160 +>drugs +People always assume drugs in these situations, I've done a lot of drugs and seen a lot of people do drugs, I've never seen any that do this. +--- 57885028 +>>57877574 +Damn, if only there was some sort of solution to mediocre shot placement. If only modern technology could provide us with some sort of mechanism to increase volume of fire or assist with aiming. +Does anyone make tracers for 4.6×30mm? +--- 57885113 +Can you really be executed for the crime of walking toward a cop unarmed? What socialist police state is this from? +--- 57885698 +>>57885113 +lmao. +In China, people argue with the cops all the damn time. It's normal. Even if things get violent, nobody is executed in the street. (And, in fact, nobody at all would be executed for the crime of assaulting a cop.) +In the USA, you had better behave VERY carefully around Cops. Or they'll just murder you on the spot. +"Land of the free." +--- 57885710 +>>57877743 +A common pistol cartrige like the 9mm paraplegic, 45 anti coloured people, 357 magCock or the 40 Onions and W0ke do not match the kinetic energy of a rifle caliber , even something "relatively weak" (in terms of rifle calibers) like a 556 or even 30 carbine, . 9mil has about 400 ish ftlbs , 357 mag has almost 800 from the allmighty buffalo bore pissinhot loads (but that is the high end of energy from available ammo from "who knows" which barrellenght), + A standard 556 round has 1300 ish ftlbs. It is easy to imagine which one can potentially do more tissue damage (in width and lenght) WITH A DECENT PROJECTILE choice. +Also a pistol is much more difficult to accurately and rapidly shoot then a gun with a buttstock. +Here is a Video comparing 9mm fmj, 9mm hollowpoint, and 55 grain 556 ball from a 13.7 inch barrel (supressor is pinned so "not an sbr"). The optimal barrellenght for a 556 semiauto rifle is somewhere around 20 inches which means the 556 could easily be more effective +https://youtu.be/905iE1gIP1c [Embed] +--- 57885970 +>>57885698 +It’s the natural result of the police facing no-consequences + +Why shouldn’t a cop just murder somebody because she’s being annoying? There’s no consequences for doing so. Just claim you feared for your life and you’ll get off Scott free +--- 57887394 +Now imagine the perp wearing class IVs. Dick plate under the navel class IV helmet, side plates. Front and back plates. Imagine how much longer he could have lasted. + +At that point the new "center of mass" becomes the face/neck. At that point you must hit the apricot. + +Perp becomes unstoppable when wearing a diamond age faceplate. +--- 57887455 +>>57887394 +People who do this much drugs would just sell the plates right away for more dope and they suck at sustained cardio. +--- 57887503 +>>57877724 +>the coroner has their own vehicle for that. +In my town, the coroner drives a Prius. EMS transports bodies (dead or alive). +--- 57888259 +>>57885710 +>45 anti colored people +Only used in brother wars +>40 Onions and Woke +Not onions or onions enough for the modern age. +>357 magCock +>9mm paraplegic +>muh rifles +Yeah +>>57885698 +Here's your (You) Chang +--- 57888326 +>>57888259 +its only game. why you have to be mad? +--- 57888573 +>>57877001 (OP) +so having to shoot someone 7 times in a row to kill them in resident evil 4 remake is actually realistic interesting +--- 57888617 +>>57884390 +Yeah +--- 57889101 +>>57885970 +yea if police didn't have qualified immunity they would be opened up to a whole new level of scrutiny both civil and criminally. +--- 57889422 +>>57877001 (OP) +I think you don't realize how ineffective pistols are +--- 57889434 +>>57877244 +>he was attempting to get help +I doubt that. +--- 57889504 +That’s why you carry a .45 yeup +--- 57889536 +>>57877001 (OP) +Despite what you've seen in movies the 12 or so years you've been alive bullets aren't magic off switches +--- 57889555 +>>57885970 +>>57885698 +unless youre black. how dare you then. +--- 57889573 +>>57880790 +When will morons learn that police are not social services? +--- 57889649 +>>57888617 +Dang, get that sheriff some .44 magnums +--- 57890863 +>>57888259 +What is your point? +You have not offered a counterpoint , expanded on the topic, you +Seemingly have not even attempted to be funny either, you only autistically screach +>brother waaar + >muh rifles +What is YOUR point +--- 57891036 +>>57877001 (OP) +You've obviously never worked as an EMT in Detroit. Druggies taking 5-10 rounds to go down because they are so blasted on drugs that their bodies do not register pain are very much a real thing and unsettling as fuck the first few times you see it happen. +--- 57891049 +>>57890863 +The only autist is you and that overly defensive retard that I originally replied too. I didnt even shit on 9mm just the fags that get worked up even when no one is seriously shitting on it. +--- 57891127 +>>57884738 +People certain do die when shot in the heart, but that's not the full picture. People black out after being shot even if the heart, surrounding major arteries and lungs are fine. The brain only runs out of oxygen like 10 minutes after the heart stops. People fall down after being shot because of blood loss, primarily. The rapid loss of blood pressure causes fainting. Then the arteries collapse as bleeding continues. The heart stops, then the brain cells begin dying. + +As a fun side note you can actually keep someone with extreme blood loss alive for a while longer if you can inject some fluid into their circulatory system. Blood, water, coconut milk, etc. Anything for the heart to continue pumping and support the arteries. +--- 57891222 +>>57889649 +More like a billyclub. Almost all of these suicide by cop situations could be resolved by beating them with a stout piece of wood until they stop resisting and get the cuffs slapped on. +Taking away nightsticks from cops was fucking retarded and the whole reason for cop shootings going up. +Give em billy clubs and institute hard height/fitness/BMI limits, I don't care how many languages officer rosalita speaks. +--- 57891283 +>>57877001 (OP) +I work in house security at a Healthcare system. We have to fight people like this. I have released my dog on two separate occasions and they guys absorbed the bite, still got taken down by the dogs weight/inertia, and gone on to fight 3-4 of us on the ground with the dog still on their arm. +They don't respond to pain compliance, have no fear, and do not gas out. Working at a hospital is fucked because handcuffs aren't considered a medical restraint and we have to fight them until we get them on a bed and into hard restraints. Fentanyl/meth or heroin/meth make these monsters. The medications like b52s etc don't work. I've seen them get hit with presidex (sp?) and still keep fighting the meds as they're being intubated. We have k9 and tactical teams where I work and the shit I've seen is insane. I couldn't imagine running into one of these mf'ers on the street, alone, with a broken radio and back up miles away. +--- 57891643 +>>57877001 (OP) +How does it get decided whether to start off with nonlethal or go straight to lethal? Is it officer discretion? + +Also that panicked shuffle at 2:07 when he debates if he's dealing with a zombie outbreak lmao diff --git a/k/57877260.txt b/k/57877260.txt index e66a88d7fe8a555b6e53321528e2404619f49534..1f1c5a66e0685ad698169043037e8aabf6387180 100644 --- a/k/57877260.txt +++ b/k/57877260.txt @@ -156,3 +156,133 @@ really? --- 57879594 >>57877260 (OP) Bocchi needs breeding correction +--- 57880182 +>>57877757 +Uteropodes. +--- 57880724 +>>57879594 +Bocchi the mating press until pregnant +--- 57880736 +>>57879594 +>>57880724 +How big of a family you want with Bocchi? +--- 57880742 +>>57880736 +3 kids at minimum +--- 57880754 +>>57880742 +Her breast can feed so many kids. +--- 57880771 +>>57879553 +Yeah. As that other anon said, the usual treatment for hysteria (and back in the day, pretty much everything was diagnosed as hysteria when it came to women) was a genital massage. Some doctor got tired of fingerbanging women to climax and invented the first vibrator to do it for him. +--- 57880881 +>>57877260 (OP) +Bocchi the crosspost +--- 57880890 +>>57877567 +>posts dragon ball z +Argument Invalid +I'm not making rules here +--- 57880907 +>>57877260 (OP) +Yes, they can. But no, they won't. +--- 57880914 +>>57877260 (OP) +I want to sex Bocchi in the pussy. +--- 57880929 +>>57880182 +I prefer Uterussies +--- 57881147 +>>57877260 (OP) +are we talking girls girls or girls with female penises? +--- 57881174 +>>57877856 +shut the fuck up you retarded imbecile. +you never go infront of the muzzle and since that is only firing a blank there are no moving parts of the carriage that can hurt you while being behind of it. +faggot gtfo +--- 57881262 +>>57878479 +Most adults I know who still like dragon ball are mentally stunted +--- 57881351 +>>57877678 +Why are spics obsessed with torturing people? +--- 57881362 +>>57878510 +>those commas +ESL. +--- 57881376 +>>57880771 +Just like my hentai +--- 57881513 +>>57877729 +I thought trains went 41mph +--- 57881524 +>>57877260 (OP) +They can't, just like women don't fart. +--- 57881691 +>>57880771 +>women going to the hospital was just an excuse to cum +easy mode +--- 57881738 +>>57877567 +Based +--- 57881801 +>>57877260 (OP) +Yes. Not very well though. +--- 57881989 +>>57877273 +I never knew I wanted to go out like this. +--- 57882058 +>>57877567 +WTF, I suddenly love moe? +--- 57883040 +>>57879553 +>>57878072 +--- 57884996 +>>57880742 +--- 57886285 +>>57878510 +can I hire you to write speeches for me? That is excellent. +--- 57887031 +i like it when she makes the squiggly face +--- 57887061 +>>57883040 +women truly are the biggest coomers +--- 57887231 +>>57877260 (OP) +Maybe +--- 57888205 +Why do they all lean backward to an exagerrated degree? Is it fear of recoil? Some biomechanical center of gravity thing? +--- 57888399 +>>57877337 +HE SAID THEIR WOMBS WOULD FALL OUT +--- 57888496 +>>57884996 +Cute desu +--- 57889952 +>>57888399 +Why +--- 57889960 +>>57880742 +Sex. +--- 57890262 +>>57889952 +Because of the recoil +--- 57890953 +>>57888205 +Well, they are more front-heavy +--- 57891407 +Women can't fire the Apilas, because their womb would explode. +--- 57891413 +>>57877567 +DragonChad I kneel +--- 57891487 +>>57887061 +It takes more effort for them to coom +--- 57891639 +>>57891407 +>because their womb would explode. +Same reason women can't handle MY DICK! +--- 57891648 +>>57877820 +based diff --git a/k/57877370.txt b/k/57877370.txt index 621cceb854ce2d1931d976f961c9a6fa861d87a6..5993a115ab21c4271d0fb58252e366ddfd8f1b48 100644 --- a/k/57877370.txt +++ b/k/57877370.txt @@ -87,3 +87,112 @@ I think the original screencap DID say something about some possible threat and --- 57879512 >>57877370 (OP) I would carry more than one gun, but I would bring my duke silver shotgun based on principle +--- 57880954 +>>57877616 +It's supposed to be some kind of colony of bacteria with functioning human organs(brain?) that it keeps alive and it seems to use random trash it finds as a skeletal structure. So overall pretty original and pretty dumb at the same time, obviously chosen because it would be easy to render with software. 00 Buck would probably be best to break it apart. + +>>57878558 +>>57877961 +>>57877829 +The problem is they all want to get to the monster too quick and don't cut the footage to show the passage of time. None of them get to wander around for two days without water and realize "Jesus Christ I'm going to die in here aren't I?" just because there is nothing to drink. +--- 57881291 +>>57879512 +Would you also bring your saxophone? +--- 57883502 +>>57877370 (OP) +1911 +--- 57883513 +>>57877379 +Yourself +--- 57883560 +>>57877473 +based post, idol shows are awful +--- 57883584 +>>57881291 +Gotta be ready for surprise free-form jazz battles +--- 57883770 +>>57880954 +>Nothing personnel stickfag +--- 57883824 +>>57877370 (OP) +Breed bocchi. +--- 57883920 +>>57877946 +I work in a shopping centre and I feel the same when I use the "Staff Only" fire escape accessways to take shortcuts. It's really eerie walking down the silent long empty rabbit warren of corridors. +--- 57883956 +>>57883770 +I like how it mentions covid like it’s dante from the devil may cry series +--- 57884202 +>>57883956 +Lel +--- 57884367 +>>57877829 +>>57877878 +Truly this. It's a shame that Kane Pixels has some cool ideas, the will and the dedication to create something out of a creepypasta but FUCK I hate how seemingly so many people take away the worst parts of it as "the best parts" + +Like every instance where he had videos in that old corporate/low-budget documentarian style with long, long static shots of the actual spaces, or just people wandering with the ambience, those were nice. However, as these anons said for some fucking retarded reason most young people, even though they agree about liking the idea and the creepiness, turn it into only watching the videos with monsters and jumpscares. And conversely, now more of the content is focused on the big happenings and muh plot instead of feeling like an even more dead Black Mesa or something. Hell I'm not even sure that it's truly zoomers who feel this way, it might be genuine children who lack the comprehension of a "disturbing space".. Idfk +--- 57884376 +>>57877377 +fpbp +--- 57884428 +Just this. +--- 57884564 +>>57877370 (OP) +Magic gun or some shit idk. +--- 57884915 +>>57877473 +Stale pasta but I’m really starting to like the trope of associating Dragonball with counter-weeb “culture” (and in some cases bigotry). I should start watching Dragonball +--- 57884955 +>>57877916 +That reminds me. I live in a flyover town that built a shopping mall pre-Recession and now half of it is closed down and I really wanna get a job there as a security guard so I can wander into the closed off areas at night +--- 57886258 +>>57877829 +I think a cool concept would be that instead of "le mosnters!" The backrooms would be sparsely littered with items like coins, lint, and other things that just seem to disapear. Ever lost a sock? Well theres a 1 in X chance it clipped out. Maybe even skeletons. +--- 57886299 +>>57877473 +Azumanga Daioh is great, though. +--- 57886326 +>>57877829 +>slowly fade away from dehydration +another fuck-you of the backrooms was that they were damp, just enough to let you feel wet and cold, but simply not enough to get water out of anything +--- 57886354 +>>57879507 +the vague threat that you may not be alone is much more nerve wracking then an in-your-face-five nights at fuckbois fotm monster chasing you around +it's the uncertainty that is key here +--- 57886361 +>>57884367 +>Hell I'm not even sure that it's truly zoomers who feel this way, it might be genuine children who lack the comprehension of a "disturbing space".. Idfk +99% of viewers of horror-anything on the Internet, YouTube especially, are literal children to whom the genre itself (even when executing HILARIOUSLY shittily) is still incredibly novel and exciting because this is their first time experiencing anything like it. +t. guy who grew up watching shit-tier YouTube "horror films" made with Zoo Tycoon 2 mods in 2007 +--- 57886499 +>>57883956 +--- 57886575 +>>57884915 +The abridged series is better than the source material +--- 57886683 +If it's the fuck off uber quiet go mad and see shit backrooms? IDK if you'd want a gun. Suicide is the biggest bitch move you can make. + +Now if we're talking 'modern' backrooms with shit tons of monsters (that honestly make it less scary.) Then I'd yoink an AK. Probably some shitballin Wasr. 7.62 has good penetration even into weird fuck-ass monsters, you can carry more than a shotgun, an it's a nice compact rifle especially if you get a side-folder. +--- 57888464 +>>57877370 (OP) +Rooo +--- 57888943 +>>57884367 +Probably actual kids considering the majority of backroom videos with huge views are the kind of shit that only kids would find entertaining. +A big problem is most kids just don't really have a concept of fading away slowly, death is still a pretty foreign concept to most them on a pretty fundamental level and the idea of just slowly dying because you can't get something that's provided to them for free everyday just doesn't really exist, their sense of danger is still very rudimentary and pretty much only comprehends the big scary bad thing coming to get them. The backrooms got relatively popular but the main source of horror just didn't register with kids, until a big scary monster chasing you was thrown in. +--- 57889060 +>>57888943 +Even the monster is done incorrectly, if I could talk to Kane who was a young guy apparently I'd tell him not to make the monster fast or strong, or at least not until it is years old and mature. I'd say you have to wander dozens of miles or maybe hundreds before running across a body that became a monster and if you did it should be a pathetic corpse thing. But you fell in unprepared and in most places there isn't even furniture to break down into a club. So you could fight it and get injured stomping it to death, but most people would walk away and it would follow you. But you need to sleep and it doesn't, you need water and it doesn't seem to or maybe can subsist on the moisture it finds leaking from pipes but you would sicken. The idea of the air being moldy and thus making you sick was a good edition at least but nobody is there long enough to make it matter. If a survivalist hiker fell in he might last for months and start feeding on others since there is almost no way out he's practically doing them a favor by drinking their blood and using the little untreated wood he found and stashed to jerk their flesh. +--- 57889780 +The Rapist Gun +--- 57889815 +>>57889060 +What are you on about mate +--- 57889944 +>>57889815 +I'm giving an opinion about how you could make the setting focused more on the horror of being trapped in a shitty maze rather than a moaning pile of goo and bedsprings that chases you within fifteen minutes of getting into the maze. And some random asshole in the maze with a pistol or a hatchet would be more dangerous than the monsters, thereby adding a different kind of horror into the mix if you wanted that. It's not anything particularly original its just a little more depth than: fall into yellow corridors, monster screams, run. +--- 57889986 +>>57877473 +Cgdctsisters?.. +--- 57890914 +Flame Thrower for Mr. Stickman, then a Semi-auto shotgun with slugs. diff --git a/k/57877430.txt b/k/57877430.txt index 5d827c2de8fbff6db7daa5e0e49ecdaf1064e27a..05732a689d59599499fb23782bcf76ae21e6f68a 100644 --- a/k/57877430.txt +++ b/k/57877430.txt @@ -321,3 +321,599 @@ there are people online who pretend to. There are some people who find them inoffensive, but they don't actively like the sequel trilogy, it is just one of the hundreds of "pretty good" movies they've seen. No one actually likes the sequel trilogy. +--- 57879767 +>>57879408 +> Oddly enough, I think the in-many-ways-made-for-marketing sequel trilogy with all its faults are better movies than the Lucas's-weirdo-creative-vision prequel trilogy +I mean almost all movies are lol. At least the sequels looked and felt like movies and not like autistic industry-facing effects reels for ILM. +--- 57879795 +>>57879536 +> there isn't a human alive who likes the sequel trilogy +You realize that everyone said this about the prequel trilogy when you were still a dumbass poopy pants toddler right? And now there’s an army of shills for them. + + What do you think is gonna happen when all the babbies playing with the sequel toys now who don’t give a shit about all your astroturfed corporate culture wars get their own iPads like the prequel babbies did? +--- 57879814 +>>57877744 +If you have to treat your own populace as the enemy, you might be a communist Gaylord. +--- 57879839 +>>57877744 +> thanks Obama for making propagandizing the US people legal + the country was literally founded by publishers and propagandists lol it never wasn’t legal +--- 57879858 +>>57879795 +no one will ever confuse this as an era with quality film +for eternity, media from this era will be regarded as propagandistic and therefore artistically moot. +--- 57879898 +>>57879814 +gaylord confirmed +>>57879839 +>the country was literally founded by publishers and propagandists lol it never wasn’t legal +Smith-Mundt act nigger +--- 57880131 +>>57877430 (OP) +She's hot enough to convince me to die for Biden's crackhead son in Ukraine, but not hot enough to convince me to eat that slop. +--- 57880196 +>>57877430 (OP) +Obviously the vast majority of people who work in things that sound cool like Intel psyops PR and so on and even things like green door assignments are actually really boring if not fake and gay. Intel for instance has a bit of a reputation in the community. + +That said stated and implicit policies are two different things. +--- 57880225 +>>57877640 +But for our loss in Syria and Afghanistan I think we would be in a shooting war with Iran now as it stands morale is in the toilet and the American people are going to have to be let down easy on this whole Ukraine thing means either you're going to have to pay people more across the board and then they're not going to want to die, they'll just join but not die, or you're going to have to import a bunch of dumb people to die for them more likely. + +You're going to see a bunch of Rob Ross stuff like they made in the arts with white Heroes and stuff unless non-white homosexual people because they're going to need those guys from the south and the Midwest to actually do the shooting part and the getting blown up part but I really don't think even action movies with guys that look like them are really going to undo the last 20 plus years of failure and Malice. +--- 57880237 +>>57877655 +Meds and schizo started as a stock Anime Avatar kid response to being found out it's a zoomy thing and it started on Twitter. +--- 57880252 +>>57877430 (OP) +Western psyops are still primarily military operations-focused. For example in Afghanistan Psy-op teams were tasked with changing the locals' opinion on the taliban so they would rat out IED diggers. Russia and China have long been focused on the civilian side of the USA. A huge problem the US has in relation to psychological warfare reaching civilians is freedom of speech. Russia and China can, to a reasonable extent, shield their population of western influence because of their suppression of media and internet. +--- 57880262 +>>57877849 +Generations all have a type of psychology and culture and even physiology that marks them out zoomers all look like genderless little hapas that snaps super hard into pop due to Instagram and the collapse of subcultures via hipsterism in the 2010s they're not exactly pretty people definitely not beautiful none of them but you can tell these people were exposed to hardcore pornography before they hit puberty the women every bit as much as the men +--- 57880279 +>>57880252 +I think you're putting the card before the horse in relation to the whole Russia China propaganda thing +--- 57880303 +>>57880279 +How so? +--- 57880314 +>>57877430 (OP) +demoralize enemy population, motivate friendly population. + +make friendlies seem like theyre doing better than they are if theyre doing badly or make them seem like they require more support and arent doing well if theyre doing 'too well' + +if you live in a country that is in any way relevant to any war even in a small part the entire image of said war on social media will be fake,heavily biased and misrepresented. + +never trust any news of any ongoing war or conflict and dont trust most stories about recent history. the more time passes the harder it becomes to keep up the psyop and the less interest is in it which is why you can get a more-or-less accurate image of stuff that happened half a century ago, anything more recent is all bullshit and bias +--- 57880333 +>itoddler +>schizo +--- 57880336 +>>57880279 +>cart +The USSR was feeding American schizos conspiracy theory stuff since the 60s +Yeah, a lot of the particularly extreme American don't-trust-the-gubmint horseshit is rooted in 60-year-old Soviet psyops +the irony... +--- 57880414 +>>57880303 +Rather than doing stuff people like, scolding people for not liking the stuff you're doing, and for noticing other places do do stuff people like. +--- 57880667 +>>57877430 (OP) +Lujan is grade A rapemeat +--- 57880672 +>>57877430 (OP) +>PsyOps even do in modern war? +Spam reddit reposts on /k/ it seems. +--- 57880701 +>>57877430 (OP) +soldiers dont exist in a vacuum, they will know what is posted online and it WILL impact them +also have some recent lujan +--- 57880760 +I shit in Lujans mouth last month in Quantico. She's the current fucktoy for the confidential clearance staff there. +--- 57880768 +>>57880760 +>confidential clearance staff +i wish that were me +--- 57880934 +>>57877566 +oh look a masker + +retard +--- 57881246 +>>57877566 +>Russians (and their American and uk allies) have been like microtargeting cuck and tranny porn at reactionary conservatives to get them hate baiting to it privately and radicalizing against it publicly. +Porn is jewish and is used by jews to corrupt morals. They have admitted this on more than one occasion. +>Astroturfed gamergate +Or gamers noticed what a shit product jewish feminists were putting out and didn't like it. +>They microtargeted spider-man and Elsa rape videos at toddlers. +Or it really is that the internet is full of perverts. +>BLM vs ALM has been boosted by Russian psyops the whole time. +That was just them exploiting an entrance made possible by the largely black and jewish BLM. +>Antimasking and antivaxxing campaigns +That's because tee-shirt cloth doesn't stop a virus and the vax is unsafe and ineffective, as well as being a leaky vax that encourages rapid viral mutation, but was shit out in under a year to make money for three jewish owned pharmaceuticals giants, one of which (Moderna) just happens to be among the most popular stock options in Congress. +>The birth and rise of depression memes. +Not the Russians. People are just depressed. +>Fucking prequelmemes and all the Disney Star Wars and Marvel culture wars +Disney put out a bad product, but that is because they failed to heed Walt's advice: "Don't let the jews in". +>Lot of the Russian shit is pretty dumb but it’s just a whole bunch of these regards sitting around in offices every day spitballing stuff and seeing what sticks. They go for a whole chaos and confusion and nonsense shotgun approach. +They don't have to. We have 7 million jews in the US, and we treat them like normal citizens instead of deadly parasites, which is all it really takes to upend society. +--- 57881372 +>>57878817 +...JUNIOR +--- 57881479 +>>57879219 +You faggots are wrong as shit. People are pissed about trannies, homos, jews, nogs, ect and are right to be so. We should have a massive civil war and exterminate them. Russia sees this and hopes to manipulate it. Because Chinks and Ruskies can't run a proper genocidal civil war to save their lives due to 1) general incompetence and 2) their political ideologies being based coercion and domination rather than the extermination of opponents and their replacement with your own people. + +Russians think an American in civil strife would be tied up for years and would be knocked from its perch atop the world order. They are dead wrong because assholes like me post the syntheses for nerve agents online and racist whites own all the ammunition for the 1 billion+ firearms circulating in this country. If a civil war breaks out it will become an exterminationist race war and will be over in six months, likely with the result of creating a genocidal expansionist empire. Chinks and Russians don't understand that jews and WASPs(roundheads) have been taking it easy on them. Their enemies have first and foremost always been their own population, they don't want a genocidal white nationalist empire because in the case of the jews they'd be killed and the in the case the WASPs(essentially libtards and yes all politicians are libtards) they just don't like it. + +When any russians claims they can destabilize the US my response is "i wish a nigga would." But they wouldn't like the results. + +Russia thinks it is clever by stirring the pot, they've been doing it even before the Soviet era. +--- 57881493 +>>57879194 +This post reeks of HRT and bot juice +--- 57881573 +>>57880701 +>>57880760 +How do I find a Lujan gf? I’d literally enlist tomorrow and in whatever position needs to be filled if the gubmint guaranteed me a Lujan gf that couldn’t, by law, leave me. +In case there are any glowies here, you guys could literally have ever young white man fighting for you if you offered them government mandated girlfriends. +--- 57881601 +>>57879194 +And still do, they are mildly disliked. They are shit in comparison to the first three but without that comparison they wouldn't be hated. People didn't realize how bad things could get. the Prequels are the result of incompetence, they are a mistake. The Disney movies start out with a reboot, an almost shot for shot remake of a movie. Then they handed it over to a man who literally states that medieval history is for everybody and shouldn't be white on numerous occasions, who mixes incompetence with his "fuck whitey" politics. Malice was added to the equation. Realizing this the kikes at Disney decided to backtrack but couldn't even do that right and created a movie somehow more poorly plotted and confusing than the previous entry. + +>>57879281 +What is this shit? One of the latter Dune novels? +--- 57881629 +>>57877430 (OP) +You tell me mrs. Psy ops agent +--- 57881651 +>>57880701 + +> recent Lujan with recent herpes infection +--- 57881664 +>>57881651 +She has Nurgle’s blessings +--- 57881668 +>>57881246 +Hello agent +--- 57881956 +>>57881668 +You realize you can despise kikes and think the Russians are retarded at the same time right? Not every white nationalist is a TRS faggot. +--- 57882080 +>>57877655 +>new trends happen +holy shit you figured it out, only Russian psyops could create such a powerful new phrase. +--- 57882104 +>>57881956 +So do you have to crack first like a glowstick or do you just have an ambient glow to you? +--- 57882308 +>>57878008 +>tossup if your video gets ads whether or not you say something as obscene as crap in the first 20 seconds. +Oh no! Get a real job. Good on YouTube for prioritizing good content that's safe for children over lazybones that shouldn't be making money off youtubepoop anyways. +--- 57882338 +>>57877566 +Its funny because I'd they didn't spam garbage everywhere, people just wouldn't care one way or another. Its so obviously a coordinated shilling campaign that costs quite a bit of money, so in reality it just makes me and others mad at countries like China and Russia. I have zero care or interest in geopolitics, yet I'm getting splattered with shit when cruising on the net. +--- 57882439 +>>57877430 (OP) +this bitch will never see deployment + +imagine the sheer terabites of 4k high def rape videos they'll keep uploading for months. +any rescue operation would be too dangerous of course, so we can only sit and watch as they keep pumping out new videos. +--- 57882566 +>>57882104 +Does the word glownigger mean anything to you retards anymore? Do you faggots have a physiological need to overuse and misapply every term we collectively adopt around here? +--- 57882607 +>>57882439 +sounds pretty based ngl +--- 57882793 +>>57882566 +Yes i just learned it today +--- 57882830 +>>57877566 +Based. All the culture war bullshit are Russian and Chinese psyops. Expect that shit to go into overdrive the next few years with AI technology maturing. +--- 57882909 +>>57877566 +>tranny and cuck porn radicalizing +>"reactionary" + + +The radicalization is happening on CNN and WaPo and NYT et al, not fucking /gif/. seriously go outside once in a while and talk to people face to face. + +Nobody gets radicalized by tranny porn on 4channel.org. They get angry at drag queen story telling hour in their preschool. They get angry at "peaceful protests' that burned down their businesses. They get angry at an ever expanding surveillance and police state that can and will be used against them. + +They get angry at an endless litany of domestic policy that goes against EVERY.SINGLE.THING. that they believe in: family values, gun rights, freedom of speech, freedom of association, property rights. + +TL;DR: The main complaint that those "radicalized" people have is that the US is becoming MORE like russia and china. They want MORE liberty, not LESS. +--- 57883107 +>>57882909 +> TL;DR: The main complaint that those "radicalized" people have is that the US is becoming MORE like russia and china +Lol non. + +The Russians are doing the exact same thing the Soviets did. But the Soviets were communists so they could mostly only target fellow travelers like college professors and uppity artist types and minorities. And now the Russians are an authoritarian far right oligarchy, so guess who they primarily target as fellow travelers that they can turn into useful idiots now? +--- 57883195 +>>57882909 +>acts reactionary about the existence of the concept of being a reactionary +Bro maybe if you like learned what terms mean instead of acting offended that they exist you’d have a better time in life. Doesn’t matter if you don’t like or believe in “reactionary” politics, because your propagandists do. +--- 57883213 +>>57883195 +NAYRT and non-USA, but what is "reactionary" and what does it mean in American political contexts? +--- 57883321 +>>57877566 +--- 57883357 +>>57880701 +Why does she have such a big ass head. +--- 57883685 +>>57883213 +Means the same in American as means in French and german. Started with the French Revolution and a rise in reactionary far right political movements opposing the rise of anti-monarchists and liberals and progressives. + +And it’s been a tool for social control that the monarchists and corporatists and communists and any other authoritarians have used to keep a base of commoners that flip out about any critique of them and help keep them in power ever since. Hitler’s whole Mein Kampf and screeching about modernism was basically reactionary political propaganda at its apex. + +And it’s just such a powerful propaganda too, once you get someone embracing reactionary outrage because you just show em anything and they go nuts. Like there’s ~3000 tranny surgeries a year in the US. It’s statistically a non-issue. But to reactionary conservatives that have been having it targeted at them every time they get on the internet, it’s the biggest issue there ever was. Like the second you stop demonstrating a reactionary conservative psychographic profile, blacked porn and trannies essentially disappear entirely from your internet experience. + +Tranny on /tv/ +2010=1107 +2011=1294 +2012=2472 +2013=3131 +2014=5332 +2015=8548 +2016=8360 +2017=11,178 +2018=18,036 +2019=66,577 +2020=72,517 +2021=84,853 + +Dilate +13=21 +14=49 (time and eye related) +15=39 +16=41 +17=101 (first tranny related) +18=394 +19=14,615 +20=15,304 +21=12,536 + +Fun fact there was a notable shift from cuck to tranny messaging strategy starting in 2017 after trump took office. Cuck is better at manipulating people who aren’t in power by attacking their masculinity, and tranny is better at people who are in power by attacking their masculinity. +--- 57884090 +>>57877924 +American heroes +--- 57884166 +>>57877430 (OP) +>What does PsyOps even do in modern war? +Pic related. Also those campaigns to help Russians surrender and information on how to surrender. +--- 57884213 +>>57877992 +>>57877898 +It was a campaign to on one hand force YouTube to crack down on how it’s algorithm worked for small YouTubers and started restricting it’s recommended and autoplay features to a handful of “safe” channels for each demo that could be more easily exploited by shill farms, which helped turn YouTube into a useless shithole that endlessly recommends random culture warriors taking lots of anonymous money from Eastern Europe and stuff. Basically by using both Disney and WB properties and having them do stuff that goes against their company s&p it was putting basically all of Hollywood on YouTube’s ass and forcing them to make the platform “safer” for corporations and advertisers. + +And on the other hand it’s part of some super dark psyop trying to basically incept antisocial sexual ideas into the minds of people at their most influential when it comes to psychosocial development, with the broad overall intention of increasing the number of disaffected virgins, rapes, suicides, homicides, serial killers, spree killings, and so on when those people grow up. It was basically kind of a way to exploit the YouTube algorithm and use it like how pedos groom kids, but generally grooming them more towards being obsessed with sexual violence and rape and other kinds of antisocial compulsions that will make it difficult for them to have a healthy love life in the future. +--- 57884506 +>>57877566 +>Fucking prequelmemes and all the Disney Star Wars and Marvel culture wars have been heavily shilled/utilized by Russians as radicalization and messaging strategy outlets. +--- 57884520 +>>57877566 +>Gamergate is a Russian psyop +Least delusional feminist +--- 57884537 +>>57877566 +Kek it's an actual Steelefag post even down to him rambling about how Disney Star Wars was good but the Russians totally made it fail. +--- 57884555 +>>57877655 +I remember when you were making posts on /int/ in the French general about how you were going to persuade /k/ to stop saying nigger, now here you are. +--- 57884634 +>>57884506 +Literally what is hard to understand about it? +--- 57884684 +>>57882830 +>All the culture war bullshit are Russian and Chinese psyops +You are delusional if you don't think its also promoted by leftists and corporations +--- 57884765 +>>57884506 +Forgot the infographic. Considered getting into vr just so I could try and build a 3d interactive timeline of the history of Disney subversive shills promoting the prequels as the in-house alternative for contrarians to shill for to spite the sequels and the intersections they had with Russian shills trying to turn literally anything in the west into a bitter culture war. + +But Disney saw how millennials just ditched the franchise entirely when the prequels sucked so they took the prequels, which already had nostalgia value to people whose balls hadn’t dropped when they came out, and propped them up and started shilling them on /tv/ for awhile and mostly getting bullied before they found traction on Reddit and started using cult compliance strategies to peer pressure kids into bullying each other into shilling for the prequels (Disney properties) to spite the sequels (Disney properties). + And it just kept the movies in the culture. Shit like /r/saltierthancrait or whatever was keeping the sequels top of mind by having a cult dedicated to whining about them, for way longer than had they just come out and been disappointing and went away like the PT did. + +Like it can’t be stressed enough that in 2000, if you were in the high school lunch room whining about how bad the Star Wars prequels were, everyone would call you a fag. Not because they thought they were good, but because you were talking about the Star Wars prequels at all. +--- 57884788 +>>57883107 +Russia can only exploit US domestic policy disputes to its advantage. But it literally can not create those policies unless it were in control of the senate, white house, CNN, MSNBC and so forth. You cannot exploit something that doesn't exist. + +Basically the thing is: I like the evil assault weapons, I like eating red meat, I like owning a house and a car. I think kids shouldn't be allowed to change their gender and teachers have no business telling them that they should. I think aborting a baby at 9 months is far too late and hate speech is free speech. I think the patriot act and everything from the EARN IT act to net neutrality is an assault on all of our liberty. Do the russians support any of those issues? No. Do the democrats? No. Which one of those two groups is actually making our laws? + +In case you haven't noticed, none of those issues relate to foreign policy and being aggressive/hostile toward russia and china. +--- 57884806 +>>57884520 +Kek all the boogiewomyn feminists were Russian assets to m80. The entire culture war was entirely astroturfed. You politicized tribalism chimps would have never been encouraged to invade and ruin this place it if wasn’t for you all happily hopping on the retard wagon with a bunch of seething ESLs screetching about sjws and cuck porn constantly. + +SJW on /tv/ +2010=0 (appears once in gibberish) +2011=0 +IRA FORMED +2012 = 7 (including explicit messaging strategy [The term SJW isn't used by the "warriors" themselves, at least, not usually. Basically, SJW = Crazy.] +2013=578 +2014=16,086 +2015=31,837 +2016=30,723 +2017=29,945 +2018=31295 +2019=28836 +2020=16288 +2021=10655 +--- 57884834 +>>57884788 +The truth is Russians on the internet project their depression and make it a worse place, there is no concerted KGB effort. +--- 57884929 +>>57879814 +I'm tired of seeing retards blindly accept this shit as gospel. For those who have an IQ above 70, the actual content of the bill can be found here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/5736/text +>Amends the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1986 and 1987 to prohibit funds for the Department of State or the Board from being used to influence public opinion or propagandizing in the United States. (Under current law such provision applies to the United States Information Agency [USIA].) +--- 57884979 +>>57884788 +> But it literally can not create those policies +The tranny hubbub started when a likely Russian asset in North Carolina state legislature introduced a tranny bill as bait designed to fail in response to something that happened in Canada so they could create a wedge issue to push to rouse the rabble before the 2016 election. Other than that the tranny issue pretty much boils down shit that private sports organizations and bars do. All of which can be easily influenced anonymously over the internet. And it’s like the biggest issue to conservatives desperate for something to be distracted about. Like nothing is happening with trannies other than the endless propaganda about them. Plus how the whole schmebogle works is that you get the reactionaries yelling about all the queers doing queer shit on their internet experience and gets the counter-reactionaries to start shilling for them out of spite. Like making fun of trannies was a lot funner when there wasn’t a bunch of sniveling nigger foreigner propagandists that jerk off to them as a culture invading my culture to endlessly agitate about them. + +Same with sjw and now woke and everything else in ESL newspeak. It starts with anonymous foreigners suddenly showing up reacting to all the “sjws” or “woke mob” or “trotskyists” or any other newspeak label they choose, and then they present a bunch of strawmen examples to define what the term means and then get kiddos seeking out annoying assholes on the Other side to label and attack. Literally the same shit they’ve been doing since they perfected it in the 30s. +--- 57885045 +War photography maybe. +--- 57885200 +>>57883685 +Anon, I appreciate the effortpost but you gotta dumb it down for me here, I don't know at all what the political definition of "reactionary" is. +--- 57885398 +>>57877430 (OP) +>What does PsyOps even do in modern war? +It's actually debated as to how much it helps your own side, probably the best thing it can do is make the other side not be convinced that a fight is worth it. Of course, that only works in democracies where the people in charge can't just start a war without any checks and balances. +--- 57885435 +>>57880131 +>She's hot enough to convince me to die for Biden's crackhead son in Ukraine +But Biden isn't asking US troops to die in Ukraine so literally all you're getting out of it is eating the slop. +--- 57885442 +>>57882439 +So you're saying we should deploy her +--- 57885456 +>>57884788 +>In case you haven't noticed, none of those issues relate to foreign policy and being aggressive/hostile toward russia and china. +It does in a roundabout way, but making politics so focused on those things that politicians can't spend their time or resources on destroying anything that opposes America. +--- 57885470 +>>57885456 +by* making +--- 57887369 +>>57884684 +the point is that russian psyops feed these ideas to both leftwing and rightwing to get the culture war going. Then they pour gas in the fire by echoing both sides on platforms like twitter. You're missing the bigger picture by just blaming it on leftists. +--- 57887392 +>>57877430 (OP) +Almost none of it is spent on social media, ironically enough. Civil Affairs spends more time on social media than PSYOP ever will. + +t. knower +--- 57887409 +>>57884929 +Anon, if you ever spend a significant amount of time analyzing righty talking points, you will notice the theme is "Screech at headline, do not read content". Much like hyper anti-gun libs, there is no capacity for deeper analysis. +--- 57887438 +>>57884765 +I wish people could make images like yours coherent and not an eyesore to actually illustrate their point in a sensical manner. +--- 57887866 +>>57887369 +to blame our shitty culture wars all on the Russian boogeyman is retarded. It's our own population that creates and feeds off of it and of course the Chinese and Russians exploit it. +--- 57887926 +>>57887866 +Russia literally invented the modern Left. +--- 57888030 +>>57884765 +>>57887438 +Yeah I drew it at some point and can’t read half of it lol. +--- 57888085 +>>57884765 +Steelefag you don't need to be here, you need a therapist. +--- 57888098 +>>57884806 +I'm glad you stopped taking your meds again, it makes you easier to spot. +--- 57888104 +>>57887866 +Leftists would be unrecognizable today if the soviet union never existed. +--- 57888105 +Imagine thinking the Russians are secret memegods when they can't even take Bakhmut. +--- 57888109 +>>57888105 +But that makes perfect sense as they can encircle Bakhmut in all ways except physical +--- 57888114 +>>57887369 +>Muh both sides +--- 57888132 +>literally ranting about /tv/ +People said it was schizo shit when I said the giant walls of texts complaining about Republicans came from one French retard who got chased off /tv/ and /int/ for ranting about how Russians did Gamergate, the 2A movement, and made the Disney Star Wars sequels fail. I'm glad he couldn't hold his spergery in any longer. +--- 57888134 +>>57877430 (OP) +You're thinking about it wrong. Intelligence work isn't "there's a guy named Psy Op and he goes around manipulating the narrative". If you want to explain to some Afghans how the US is going to help them out (kek) - which is a kind of propaganda, because everything is - you schedule a meeting and hand out some materials so that some pamphlets get handed to soldiers and then the next time those guys are in some village they follow the "Why We're In Your Country" guide and give some candy to kids. Repeat over and over at various degrees of intensity and various scales with varying targets. +--- 57888140 +>>57887866 +The problem with that logic is that the far left for 50 years was defined by its need to suck up to the communists and those people are the teachers of the current leftists so really, it does come back down to Russia. +--- 57888156 +>>57882909 +I stopped using /soc/ when the everpresent gay threads increased in number and slid the straight threads off the board. That made me kind of sad. +--- 57888174 +>>57883685 +>Hitler’s whole Mein Kampf and screeching about modernism was basically reactionary political propaganda at its apex. +Hitler's first victims were the actual Prussian Reactionaries. +--- 57888185 +someone post the taut t shirt pic +--- 57888223 +>>57877430 (OP) +Wow they can't even get their AI Psy-op bimbo to pretend it likes mre Mac n cheese +--- 57888289 +>>57877566 +>>57877655 +>>57879219 +>>57882080 +This the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. +You're cherry picking things which any 4channer would know to be true, like crying about Trannies increasing over the years, and then painting a narrative around it. + +Speaking of psyops. Association tricks like this are bread and butter pysops. +>Mad about X? +>Y wants you to be mad about X! +>You don't want to be on team Y do you! +It's effective because the negative association works with the general publics. So if you say something like The Black Panthers are terrorists and you cherry pick a case where that's true then the public associates Black Panthers with terrorism first and foremost in their minds when the propaganda machine blares away. +Then you end up with things like Ronald Reagan banning open carry in California. To "protect" us from the terrorists the machine made you believe in in the first place. Ala >>57877924 +--- 57888324 +>>57877430 (OP) +For some reason she look extremely breedable with a gas mask +https://www.instagram.com/p/CobBO6DMJj7/?igshid=MTIyMzRjYmRlZg== +--- 57888356 +>>57881651 +>recent herpes infection +KEK! +--- 57888647 +>>57888289 +>Mad about Ukraine? +>Globohomo wants you to be mad about Ukraine! +>You don't want to be on team Globohomo do you! +literally the only argument vatniks have +--- 57888922 +>>57888289 +>Mad about vaccines even though before 2020 being antivax was for liberal housewives that we made fun of? +>russian active measures shills want you to be mad about vaccines to increase the number of preventable deaths in your country. +>You don't want to be on team literal treason do you! + +Not sure what your point is. + +>Mad about trannies? +>russian active measures shills want you to be “mad” about trannies after they fill your life with trannies and use trannies as a boogieman outgroup label that manipulates disaffected virginal types by attacking their sexual insecurities and causing them cognitive dissonance that makes them easier to manipulate. +>You don't want to be on team constantly obsessed with degenerate porn that causes you to spend a bunch of time publicly stressing how much you hate it do you! + +Like where’s the fallacy? Why would you want to have anything to do with a bunch of foreign invaders that want you to literally die? +--- 57889067 +>>57888140 +It was created by Russian Judeo-Bolshevism +--- 57889070 +For her next ad she should have sex with me +--- 57889316 +>>57877430 (OP) +What is it with zoomer girls and the tumblr nose +Millennial Ess Jay Dubz just drew noses that way; they didn't use makeup to actually try to have a tumblr nose +--- 57889550 +>>57883107 +>Russia +>far right +>former KGB for a dictator +>oligarchs are former communist party members +>still waving the hammer and sickle flag +>anything not owned by a commie oligarch is owned by the state +>most popular philosophers are still soviet era communists and national socialists +>puppet states are called "X peoples republic" +But they're totally the same thing as American libertarians and conservatives you guys. Definitely not communists trying to rebuild the Warsaw Pact and put Russian colonists back in their old soviet empire. + +The one thing that you can say about conservatives that is absolutely true is that they are reactionary in that they never take initiative in anything. They only ever react to things happening around them and the reaction is only ever shouting "BASED" or adopting the contrarian view. +--- 57889718 +>>57889550 +>Russia +>far right +Correct. +--- 57890164 +>>57889718 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ToEvz-7trY [Embed] +--- 57890537 +>>57890164 +>posting random YouTube propaganda. +Cringe and yikes. + +ESLs were a mistake. +--- 57890590 +>>57889550 +>”gay propaganda” bans and wife beating decriminalized and endless far right reactionary conservatism +>is a literal oligarchy +Cope and seethe weirdo lmao. + +Not sure what you’re even assmad about desu senpai. Is it cuz you’re a tankie and want to think Putin is one of you lr because you’re a YouTube-radicalized reactionary far-righter and you don’t want to think about the reality that the far-right in the west has been stalinized by former-kgb niggers for the last 10 years? +--- 57890631 +>”gay propaganda” bans and wife beating decriminalized and endless far right reactionary conservatism +Plenty of communist countries have done this, almost every communist regime in Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe and South America had generally socially conservative views when compared to the West. +>Oligarchy = far right +retarded +--- 57890656 +>>57890537 +>>57890590 +So this is the new tactic from the twitter leftoids infesting /k/? Accuse everyone else of being a "far right reactionary" communist? I guess I shouldn't be surprised, it's an old tactic. +>Verification not required. +--- 57890669 +>>57889316 +It's freckles, anon +--- 57890682 +>>57890590 +>”gay propaganda” bans and wife beating decriminalized +Nta but in fairness, the soviet union DID do the former of those 2, the USSR was hilariously homophobic +--- 57890683 +>>57890631 +> Plenty of communist countries have done +And then Russia, which is currently a fascist oligarchy, also did that. + +Nice whataboutism too you russian-radicalized snake nigger lmao. You mindraped bozos don’t even realize how much your mind is being reflexively conditioned to automatically and unconsciously whatabout away from anything that causes cognitive dissonance. + +Like how you’ve been trained think is how the commies that survived the great purge had been brainwashed. It basically uses outgroup boogieman bait to trigger your tribal chimp feelings so you turn off the need for critical thought or self-reflection. + +Like what are you arguing bozo? Why is it so important to you to desperately pretend that Russia and Russian shills aren’t typically far-right and far-right focused? +--- 57890688 +>>57890656 +>So this is the <generic stalinist strawman meme> +Post passport nigger gookike +--- 57890708 +You don't have to join the army to bang fit army ladies. Just move near an army base and bang them and the wives who live on base while their husbands die for israel. The surviving males can raise your children. It's win-win. +--- 57890709 +>>57890683 +>Russia and Russian shills aren’t typically far-right and far-right focused? +The people who love Russia are usually Israeli backed Zionists while Putin kisses the shoes of his Jewish oligarchs while passing laws to make anti semitism illegal, shows how Judeo-Bolshevism still survives in Russia. To call them far right is laughable +--- 57890740 +>>57890688 +Libertarian Stalinist? And I don't have a passport. The last time I went to Canada I was a kid and it was before 9/11 so I didn't need one. +>Verification not required. +--- 57890762 +>>57890683 +>snake nigger +Can you not use racial slurs like that? This is a blue board. Weaving slurs into every other sentence doesn't help you fit in here. +--- 57890837 +>>57890709 +Meds lmao +>>57890740 +> Libertarian Stalinist? +Yes absolutely. Stalinism is about cult compliance strategies and messaging and thought control strategies and stuff. The whole thing 1984 and Animal Farm were about. + +Plus most you “libertarians” with your faggot YouTube propaganda videos that do the talking for you are some of the most authoritarian statist cucks when it comes to everything but sucking corporatist dick. +>And I don't have a passport. +Convenient. No way you can prove you’re not a russoid nigger other than by talking like one I guess. And also frustrating because you true believers and useful idiots legitimately don’t travel and are actively ignorant as hell so it’s pretty hard to tell the difference sometimes. They rely on spamming YouTube propaganda because they don’t speak good English, while you do it because you have no agency most likely. +>>57890762 +>Libertarian +>b-b-but this is a blue board +Lol you hypocrite chinks are so predictable. + +>Verification not required. +--- 57890894 +>>57890837 +Stalinism is literally a strain of Communism and at the opposite end of any political spectrum, compass, or other value chart. Libertarianism is the polar opposite of communists. And I have nothing to prove to a literal nobody leftoid troll from twitter. But hey, you can feel like someone that matters by buying a verified checkmark and pretend you're a legacy checkmark. +--- 57890948 +Not either of the people in this discussion but I think attributing some kind of philosophical basis to Russia's current government based on how the country used to be is well, a mistake. I've seen several people, Kraut being the most notable of youtubers, who makes the link between Putin and the writings of Ivan Ilyin but as Vlad Vexler said, I think that's is putting more thought into it than Putin himself does because Putin does not have a single philosophical bone in his body and in closer to just a ruthless man with a "whatever fits what I already think about the world" ideology +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7u3Z3GyLiI [Embed] +--- 57890978 +>>57890894 +I refuse to believe that you learned English as a first language. + +You’ve run out of interesting stuff to talk about. Cope and seethe harder you stalinist traitor lol. + +And now I don’t even need to use the casual freehand for “you’ve been trained to think like a mindraped Russian” since you made it clear >>57890762 I was right about you being a sniveling faggot virtue signaling faux-libertarians that immediately runs to the gubment the second you get uncomfortable. So you’re a proper stalinist too you little commie slut lmao. +--- 57890980 +>>57878962 +All women are whores +--- 57891078 +post on twitter, facebook, 4chan, write articles for washington post and NY times, make 'suggestions' for hollywood scriptwriters to modify their script to be more friendly to the regime +--- 57891086 +>>57877566 +hillary lost +--- 57891107 +>>57882104 +When psyop agent turns desperate +--- 57891146 +>>57890978 +>tucker +>stalinist +Pull that used buttplug out of your mouth annon the lack of oxygen is hindering your mental faculties, let's hope de damage is not permanent. +--- 57891213 +>>57888647 +Delete this t. Florida oblast diff --git a/k/57877560.txt b/k/57877560.txt index 7f8f4b6120d3f1ced85c97cebdb478af886f31f5..8f897f424aec173df188b5dd01ec3c735a641a94 100644 --- a/k/57877560.txt +++ b/k/57877560.txt @@ -10,3 +10,144 @@ bump --- 57879331 >>57877560 (OP) Yes, but from the looks of it also the past and present. Checkmate is a pretty old concept. +--- 57881477 +>>57877560 (OP) +Isn't mosaic warfare an old idea by now? +--- 57881512 +The United States military does not have an effective close air support air frame that can survive in an area in which the enemy has the current inventory of SAM's. Man portable SAM's will defeat CAS attempts. +--- 57881532 +>>57881512 +We can do CAS from strategic bombers. MANPADS are a threat to specific forms of CAS, but you need actual AA systems to deter CAS in general. +--- 57881533 +>>57881512 +PGMs fired from outside their range is the solution. +--- 57881575 +>>57877560 (OP) +It is a simplification of ideas that already exist into a visual form. Total conventional war is the lowest form of warfare, and kill chains can be more complex. History would suggest that each opponent, each political situation, and each strategic situation call for a unique approach. +--- 57881593 +>>57881512 +The US has the most advanced aircraft and missiles in the world, as well as the most SAM systems. With the extremely advanced tech that the US fields, there would be a way to land bombs against any conventional force. +--- 57881612 +>>57881533 +FLYMARS +--- 57881966 +>>57881512 +CAS means that the support is hitting close to friendlies, not that the thing delivering it is close. +--- 57883085 +>>57877560 (OP) +I understand the infographic, but the last sentence alone could have been rewritten to explain the entire thing much better, thus: +>have many different mobile and shifting independent kill chains all at once so that enemies have no effective response +--- 57883168 +>>57881512 +>Offering hot takes +>Doesn't know what CAS is +>Doesn't know what a MANPAD is +God damn I don't even into crew served or armchair generaling and you're obviously fucking clueless +--- 57883419 +>>57877560 (OP) +In the words of Vaclav Smil, all the models do is give you back the assumptions you put in them. +--- 57883496 +>>57877560 (OP) +The future of warfare is controlling the satellites and their communications mesh with high altitude and ground. He who controls the spice controls the universe. he who controls the spice can send a robot bomb to land on a pin and see the thermal signatures of his enemies children's turds. +--- 57883602 +>>57881533 +These are unironically just rapid dragon cruise missiles +--- 57883633 +>>57881533 +i cant tell if this is reformer tier retardation or an actual idea someone came up with. +--- 57884225 +>>57877560 (OP) +Is this not how its already done? +--- 57885364 +>>57884225 +No. +>how it's done today +soldier sees target, soldier talks to JTAC, JTAC talks to F-15, F-15 drops bomb +>how they want it done in future +soldier sees target, drone sees target, +both talk to the Net +F-15, artillery piece, tank, offshore destroyer all get targeting data from the Net +F-15, artillery, etc launches the bombs, shells, cruise missiles + +they want to P2P torrent ordnance, not client-server ordnance +--- 57885637 +>>57881533 +--- 57886028 +>>57877560 (OP) +The future of American warfare is just as expensive and ineffective as ever. +--- 57886053 +>>57886028 +Looks like we lost two countries and gained five to our sphere of influence. Per this map. +--- 57886070 +>>57886028 +Wait. Actually we gained 6. +--- 57886074 +>>57886053 +Wow you're retarded +--- 57886095 +>>57886070 +You quite possibly have the worst comprehension I've ever seen on 4chan. How did you go in school? +--- 57886112 +>>57877560 (OP) +>flank the enemy +Wow, so future, much new +--- 57886121 +>>57886112 +flanked your comprehension, certainly +--- 57886137 +>>57886121 +Oh, the irony of this post! +--- 57886153 +>>57886137 +>n-n-no u! +--- 57886187 +>>57886153 +Great comeback, anon. I bow before your intellectual prowess, for you are truly a mental colossus and I can only kneel in the dust. +I accept your concession, o great master of grade school tier zingers! +--- 57886201 +>>57886070 +Anon, I… +It’s good relations with Iran +--- 57886217 +>>57886187 +Oh, the irony of this post! +--- 57886257 +>>57885637 +This is fucking hilarious. +--- 57886370 +>All those words to say "Don't use infantry against fortified infantry positions" +--- 57886393 +>>57886370 +That's not what it says. +--- 57886445 +>>57886393 +Its just a wordy way to say we won't do dumb shit with infantry anymore and will rely heavily on drones. +--- 57887099 +Low-flying CAS is optimal because it increases situational awareness and reduces time-to-target. In a MANPADS situation the CAS must fly outside of the threat’s engagement range, or attempt Wild Weasel if training and machines allow. Doing Wild Weasel takes the plane off the CAS mission and flying high decreases withal awareness and increases time-to-target. Helicopters are another option able to hide from threats while providing CAS but position becomes a complicating factor. This is talking about America mind you. + +Russians doing CAS rely mostly on dumb bombs and rockets so must fly low; even Soviet-era planes have ballistic computers but there are too many factors which impact accuracy which can only be minimized by flying as low as possible. The pilots don’t have the training to do Wild Weasel so any AD threat means they can’t do CAS. Their choppers can snipe things at max range but they don’t have the tech to do anything more. Ukrainians have JDAM-ERs but this is a kludged-together solution so they’re really only for pre-planned targets— and Ukrainians are only able to manage a handful of sorties a day for whatever reason meaning their troops simply don’t get CAS at all. +--- 57887168 +>>57881533 +--- 57887299 +>>57877560 (OP) +>if you have more shit and you're stronger, you win +I know that powerpoints and paperwork is part of why the US is as powerful as it is, but holy fucking shit can it be retarded. +--- 57887380 +>>57886445 +It's not that either. + +>>57887299 +The question is in "what way do you have more shit", which is something that many eg Russia to this day fail to understand. + +As well as many people ITT. +--- 57889151 +>>57886028 +>Saudi Arabia has good relations with Iran +>Iraq has good relations with Iran +>The Taliban has good relations with Iran +lmao +--- 57889700 +>>57889151 +--- 57889860 +>>57886028 +Where Bakhmut diff --git a/k/57877676.txt b/k/57877676.txt index 100f27e1e06cd85ae96020f420a5fe3cede54354..1354ad0229558ef03d86383237f3da79cd876602 100644 --- a/k/57877676.txt +++ b/k/57877676.txt @@ -83,3 +83,211 @@ SIX MILLION DOLLARS!?!?!! >>57877676 (OP) >6 fucking grand It better come with a heartbeat monitor at that price is all I'm saying +--- 57880379 +>>57877676 (OP) +>6k for rifle with known video game service record. +--- 57881592 +just buy a grot +--- 57881687 +If you used this in MW2, fuck you +--- 57881698 +>>57877676 (OP) +>https://www.bushmaster.com/shop/acr/acr/ + +Bushmaster still has a website? lmao +--- 57881880 +>>57877676 (OP) +>Six thousand dollars +--- 57881906 +>>57877676 (OP) +>$6k +get the fuck out +--- 57882378 +>>57877676 (OP) +This thing is the nissan juke of rifles +--- 57882433 +>$6k +Oh honey no. +--- 57882435 +>>57878885 +>faggotgroup +Bro they're gone, Remington went bankrupt and all its assets were sold +--- 57882446 +>>57877846 +>zero upgrades or flaw fixes from the original one +Bushmaster ACK..! +--- 57882469 +How the fuck is this MORE expensive than even SIG? +--- 57882475 +>>57882446 +Because, again, they’re not actually building new ones yet. They’re selling new old Remington stock. +--- 57882572 +SIX +THOUSAND +DOLLARS +--- 57882660 +>>57877676 (OP) +And it left! +--- 57882695 +>>57877676 (OP) +For that price I'd rather buy an SR25 with that kind of money lmfao fuck this shit +--- 57882707 +>>57877839 +>>57877997 +>>57878476 +>>57878722 +>>57878880 +>>57878950 +>>57879500 +>>57880379 +>>57881880 +>>57881906 +>>57882433 +>>57882572 +Just get the Grot like this >>57881592 very wise anon said. +--- 57882734 +>>57882695 +Get the Grot, I'm telling you. +--- 57884315 +Ahh very organic discussion about a Grot in a thread about something that isn't the Grot, clearly not the result of a single unstable Polish slav +--- 57884331 +>>57882707 +>>57882734 +silence polish vermin +--- 57884350 +>>57882572 +>Pricemaster, on my /k/? +--- 57884720 +>>57884331 +post your skin colour faggot +--- 57884961 +>>57877839 +>>57877997 +>>57878476 +>>57878722 +>>57878880 +>>57878950 +>>57879500 +>>57880379 +>>57881880 +>>57881906 +>>57882433 +>>57882572 +--- 57885052 +the best part about having an acr is knowing that poors wont have one +and its important to reintroduce them at such high prices to remind poors that they cant have anything good in life +theyre allowed to have psa aks, turkshit shotguns, and generic glock clones +--- 57885156 +>>57885052 +>calls others poor +>settled for a knock off eokek +--- 57885511 +>>57884315 +It's nice, trust me. +--- 57885518 +>>57884331 +Ah, the seething coper has appeared. +--- 57885540 +>>57877676 (OP) +>6k +>Scar beats it in the polyshit AR bracket +--- 57885552 +>>57885052 +The ACR was cool in the sense that it was promised as a consumer market product, ergo inexpensive, and also that you could easily change calibers on it (which even poorfag AR15s can do). It's cool as a collectible, but $6000 cool? I'm not poor, but I'm not invested in the ACR either, and I'm not wealthy to the point that I'm willing to spend twice the price of an FN SCAR for a fifth of the performance and a tenth of the quality, it'd have to be something more special. + +I think I'd rather just go higher and start looking at transferable MGs at that point, an M10 or M11 would be lots of fun, and an FNC can become quite fantastic if you have some gunsmithing done to it. + +>>57885156 +That's also very funny, I didn't even pay attention to that. +--- 57885562 +>>57884331 +>Shrubmashter ACR +>Fagner +--- 57885590 +Bushmaster addressed this on their instagram page. The ACR is currently being reworked and is in development, it’s not actually available yet. The picture on the website shows the old model and the price is just there as a placeholder. You can’t actually order them. +--- 57885766 +>>57885590 +All they have to do in my eyes is release the real RemDef ACR for $1600 and I'm sold. It'll never happen. +--- 57885779 +>>57885590 +Lol what a strange placeholder price. +I mean could believe it was an error because holy shit 6k but I can also see out of touch bosses seeing that price justified. +--- 57885937 +>>57885779 +It’s probably to keep people from trying to buy it +--- 57886231 +>>57885937 +Some idiot is gonna try though. Really they should've left the price blank, or maybe putting an absurd price tag on it is a way of generating buzz for items +--- 57886253 +>>57885562 +t. poor who cant afford one +--- 57886318 +>>57882734 +Unavailable in the US as of 2023. +--- 57886339 +>>57886253 +>Rushit supporter bragging about others not being able to afford stuff +--- 57886391 +>>57886253 +In the same way that I'm too poor to afford spending $10000 for a transferable parts kit Sten, sure. +--- 57886395 +>>57877676 (OP) + +>$6000 + +What does this do for $6k that a $1k gayAR15 cannot? +--- 57886541 +>>57885518 +>>57885156 +>>57886339 +>>57886391 +>>57886395 +>all these poorfags +--- 57887201 +>>57878885 +>They're probably going to revive the ACR before faggotgroup does. + +That's what I'm waiting on. It would cool if he managed to get full production going because I don't want to fuck around looking for the few parts he doesn't make, BUT I'm really tempted to just buy everything he's got working so far +--- 57887259 +>>57884720 +>>57885518 +>>57885562 +>>57886339 +>>57886391 +>poor fags hate PMC chadner +Guess shilling for UAH wasnt worth it huh? +--- 57887336 +>>57877676 (OP) +More like Bushmaster ACK +--- 57887367 +>buy it or you're poor +idk, seems like a waste of time if you ask me. +I'll stick to the AR platform since it's easier to find parts and info for :) +--- 57887407 +>>57887201 +Same. I'd love to do an ACR-IC clone reproduction, but there's still too many tiny parts that are marked up for 10x their value only on gunbroker for me to consider it. +--- 57887432 +Hol up +Weren't they unable to move these things for 1200 before remshit went under? +Damn, I shoulda bought a few. +--- 57887442 +>>57887432 +They sure as shit aren't gonna be moving them at $6k unless it's just some money laundering scheme. +--- 57887450 +>>57887442 +5000 dollars i kno wat i got +--- 57887676 +How is this allowed? +--- 57887962 +Only good thing to come out of the ACR was the stock +I wonder how many more stocks than rifles were sold +--- 57890417 +>>57887259 +How's the stalemate going? +--- 57890445 +>>57877676 (OP) +>SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS +LOL. LMAO even. +--- 57890526 +>>57877786 +Don't ban things ban idiots from abusing them diff --git a/k/57877683.txt b/k/57877683.txt index 4347e6c4ee60b605e9f9f2fe22c6d6b19c4755ac..8e9ce9ac550464e3b422e880aed54c6c86803bb8 100644 --- a/k/57877683.txt +++ b/k/57877683.txt @@ -145,3 +145,265 @@ I would be for this if only whites could get firearms. --- 57879561 >>57877683 (OP) I like a lot of different Kel-Tec guns. RDB, KSG, PMR30, and even like the aesthetics of the P-15 aluminum. +--- 57879873 +>>57879314 +You're a problem. +--- 57879914 +>>57879486 +Chad response +--- 57879942 +>>57878237 +Hello fellow Kemono Friends enjoyer +--- 57880092 +>>57877683 (OP) +My collection is too big and needs its own building. I Don't clean it enough. I'm also the last person on earth who should have weapons. +--- 57880123 +>>57877683 (OP) +ive been browsing this board for 9 years and still havent made a firearm purchase due to my autism interfering with my purchasing decisions. noguns4life! +--- 57880159 +I took carry with the cheapest ammo I can get but it's because I keep forgetting to get the good stuff. Thanks for the reminder. +--- 57880271 +>>57878655 +I’ve carried a Gen 1 S&W M&P 9 Shield for nearly a decade in a pocket holster in my front right pants pocket, even when I’m at home and wearing comfortable clothes like basketball shorts I carry it. You can’t even tell I have it and it’s so light & thin I could forget I even had it in my pocket. No excuse. That’s why I bought the M&P Shield when my state passed constitutional carry, I knew if I got the right gun even when I was having a lazy day I would carry cause I’d have no excuse. If I were you’d I’d still carry a fixed blade but I’d also get something you can pocket carry comfortably. +--- 57881659 +>>57880123 +Don’t worry anon, you’ll find your special gal soon enough +--- 57881680 +>>57877930 +Ballistics are important when you are shooting at a distance. Even shooting accurately at 500 yards and below requires practice and training. If you want to "hit people where it counts" you have to understand the ballistics of the round you are shooting. Even up close, you have to compensate for the bullet climbing. +--- 57881707 +>>57881680 +Really, if you want to hunt ethically you have to be accurate. Making a clean kill with one shot and feeding people. Much more to guns than self-defense. +--- 57882333 +>>57877683 (OP) +I'd instantly and gladly trade in permitless carry for a reopening of the machine gun registry. +--- 57882580 +>>57879314 +>>must have a primary care physician +in a country without universal healthcare coverage +SNEED +--- 57882617 +I do not give a single fuck about modern tactical rifles or any bans/legislation around them, they're LARP tools for 99.9% of their buyers. +CCW and handguns are far, far far more important and I'd gladly trade muh salt rifles for 50 state permitless purchase and carry +--- 57882630 +>>57878532 +>ouch! careful, little guy! +--- 57882655 +>>57878655 +guess you’ve never had something as simple as a crackhead pull on your door handle? What are you gonna do, gut them? You shoot or use your fist at that point. If you use your fist the cops won’t even bother you once you’re finished. I think it’d be pretty hard to get a good ruling in court with a self defense stabbing. +--- 57882681 +I don't actually own any guns but I constantly call people out as nogunz and have an arsenal of pics saved to stand in as my arsenal. + +Although I have learned about guns over the years, I still mostly rate them based on how good they were in Call of Duty or Battlefield. + +When discussing combat or military ops, I often claim that I have significant first hand experience on these matters and in turn use that to support my position. + +I also think submachine guns, shot guns, and DMRs almost always look cooler than assault rifles and are thus cooler. +--- 57882686 +>>57877930 +>>57877683 (OP) +Yes, hole through something vital makes things dead and in a military context where shooting trough objects can be important fmj makes sense. Good expansion or fragmentation makes for quicker results though and anyone who's hunted animals with both can attest. +If you want a cheap but good enough jhp the winchestor white box 147gr jhp you see at academy are adequate. +--- 57882744 +>>57878628 +>You carry what you practice +Why if they have the same point of impact? For a +/- 2% difference in perceived recoil? I'm doubt I could notice the difference between +p and bottom of the barrel 115gr fmj. +With rifles where the POI difference is more noticeable because you're shooting further okay I guess. Or keep a note card for m193 zero and whatever nice load you use zero side by side in the grip. +--- 57882763 +>>57879314 +There are smart ways to do gun control, but yeah we'd need some major incentive to even pretend to try. NFA repealed, no ammo sales tax or some shit. + +Even then I'd just have it be a voluntary training license. Getting the trainer card gives you all the benefits you mentioned but it's entirely optional with all the normal measures we have today for the ones that don't. +--- 57882986 +>>57878628 +Brainlet take. The 1" POI difference makes zero practical difference for any realistic self defense situation. Vette reliability with the good stuff, practice with the cheapest similar POI and recoil impulse ammo you can find, and shoot up your carry ammo as you cycle it out. +>>57882686 +Bonded JHP frequently performs better post barrier then FMJ as the FMJ is unbonded and more likely to experience core jacket separation when going through things like sheet metal or auto glass +--- 57886203 +>>57877683 (OP) +i think pocket carry is the best form of carry because you don't know that i'm carrying a rocket in there +--- 57886249 +>>57877683 (OP) +I think 5.7x28 is a stupid fucking round and the M&P 5.7 is a stupid fucking gun. + +Regardless I just bought the gun for $649 (after tax) and eight 22 rnd magazines for about $30 each. + +I did this because I've seen enough shit for past couple of years to prioritize capacity above all else, and the gun shoots ok. +--- 57886755 +>>57886249 +It's weird because I was just looking up videos of this gun all night last night. I'm very fascinated by it and considering getting it as a car gun and home defense gun. i'm surprised everyone is hyping up the 5.7 round again. apparently its ammo price is going down as well. I hope hickok45 reviews it. +--- 57887062 +I bought a Taurus and I liked it. +--- 57887068 +>>57886249 + +Is it true that 5.7 pistol is a hot black market item in mexico because it can pierce some body armor levels? +--- 57887086 +>>57887068 +>can I go to Baja to eat a lot of grilled shellfish, real 5.7, Xanax, and Tylenol with Codeine? + +asking for a friend +--- 57887188 +>>57878237 +Faggots like this can find a woman to marry irl, but a supreme gentleman like myself is constantly ignored and denied by women. le sigh +--- 57887348 +>>57887188 +you respect them +--- 57887426 +I don’t have the slightest idea which of these ledges the guide rod is supposed to rest on, and it’s up to chance which one I’ll choose every time I reassemble my Glock. +--- 57887452 +>>57887188 +>faggot +>married a woman +Does that make you, who cannot find a woman, a super faggot? +--- 57887456 +My guilty confession is even though I am living in a based country which of course bans firearms since we're not retarded, I'd still want a 9mm revolver (yes they exist) for myself. Though I'm very happy that i don't get to have a gun if all the other morons can't either. +--- 57887548 +>>57886249 +>I did this because I've seen enough shit for past couple of years to prioritize capacity above all else +When you say you've "seen enough shit", are you talking about the fact that there's never been a single recorded case of a private citizen being killed or injured due to running out of ammo in a defensive shooting? There's even the ultimate example of Rittenhouse, who was attacked by a mob, only firing 8 rounds total. Idk, maybe you've seen something in the past couple of years to contradict these facts. +--- 57887572 +>>57878848 +>>57880271 +>>57882655 + +I spend years in a high-risk job where I had to be heavily armed constantly. You get tired of it. Now, i have the luxury of avoiding bad people and places. Crims don't usually attack people who don't have anything valuable, and who can obviously beat them to death either. I have a higher chance now of being struck by lightning then being a victim of a violent crime. You can inject whatever hypotheticals you want, I lived it. Mass shooting? Im supposed to carry a gun everywhere for a statically irrelevant phenomenon? No. +--- 57887644 +>>57879002 +>The losers in WWII were also using FMJ ammo +British & Italian frangibles +--- 57887992 +>>57887456 +Do you realize that you're not welcome on /k/ for unironically thinking this retarded pussy shit +--- 57888027 +>>57887456 +I, too, am very happy you can't own a gun. Cucks who don't wish for an armed society don't deserve such a freedom themselves. Enjoy living as a second class citizen in a third world shithole. +--- 57888235 +>>57879314 +>shall issue +gay if you paid attention youd realize it actually means shall not issue +--- 57888266 +>>57886249 +i bought a ruger 57 last friday +--- 57888556 +>>57887548 +>There's even the ultimate example of Rittenhouse, who was attacked by a mob, only firing 8 rounds total. + +That's some sort of spin you're spouting there. They were actually trying to disarm him because they thought he was a threat and didn't think he had access to that weapon. Why wouldn't you call kyle rittenhouse a mob participant himself? They don't know what the fucks going on. He didn't know what he was doing. He wasn't even part of a security team. He wasn't a cop. I support gun laws and stuff but that rittenhouse fellow was a huge retard. Do you remember when he was crying at the verdict? It's because he knew he fucked up and knew he could have been found guilty for the shit he did. +--- 57888587 +>>57888556 +Tl;dr he legally did nothing wrong as declared in a court of law get rekt bich lool +--- 57888602 +>>57888556 +This b8 is shit. Take a cue from OP his b8 was actually good. +--- 57888644 +>>57887572 +>Im supposed to carry a gun everywhere for a statically irrelevant phenomenon? No. + +My personal opinion is I would feel like shit living my last moments thinking wow I should have had my gun on me, while the neighborhood pitbull gnaws my toes and fingers off. Or as the mass shooter walks on top of my body and moves to kill grandpa behind me. I don't want that to be my last thoughts. I realize it's statistically low, but you have to have the mindset of every off-duty cop in brazil. If you don't understand that reference then you don't belong on this forum. + +>You get tired of it. Now, i have the luxury of avoiding bad people and places. + +You could at least carry a gun that is no more uncomfortable than a phone in your pocket. Do it for society. You are trained as you say, you could save another person from mortal danger. Yet you choose to be selfish. +--- 57889054 +>>57887548 +Large pack of feral niggers never burned down my local stores before either, the fuck is your point? +--- 57889059 +>>57888556 +He probably carries revolver leave him alone +--- 57889147 +>>57882655 +Some dude in New York stabbed a baby daddy to death in self defense at a convenience store recently. Guy got put in holding for days without medical attention. + +His charges got dropped by the end of it but fuck man. +--- 57889226 +>>57877683 (OP) +>I carry the cheapest ammunition I can find for personal defense because if FMJ's worked just fine in wars like the Battle of the Atlantic or in Operation Rolling Thunder, then FMJ's are good enough for me. + +For real my nigga, 9mm is 9mm +--- 57889570 +>>57887426 +New Glock owner here. We are apparently the pair of people who weren't born with this knowledge. It's a pretty well guarded secret online but this video shows placement and hasn't been removed from Youtube yet: +https://youtu.be/18Di2i1bgTs [Embed] +--- 57889606 +>>57888266 +I heard the trigger was hit or miss on those, hows the trigger on yours? +--- 57889680 +>>57889606 +feels fine havent had any trouble yet +--- 57889741 +>>57878532 +That's a great photo +--- 57889979 +I don't actually like guns, I just own them because I am not physically capable of killing a man at range unarmed +--- 57890173 +>>57877683 (OP) +I feel like people reee too hard over Bubba guns, ignoring the obvious eldritch horrors there are tasteful examples. + +I for one am dropping sniper mosin guts in a KPYK Chassis for a nice long bolt gun. I like the idea of taking a old crippled war vets brain and putting it in a fuckin 40k space marine body and slingshoting old weapons platforms into the 21st century. +--- 57890199 +>>57887572 +Did you retire Gecko45? +--- 57890314 +I'll probably never be a decent shot with a pistol and I've accepted that. I always get shakes pretty bad once I start shooting. I train most weekends but I don't seem to be improving beyond what I already can do. Not sure if I'm just shit or just need to stop being a shaky faggot +--- 57890352 +>>57890314 +Drink a tallboy before shooting, why do you think painters are alcoholics? Steadies the hands. +--- 57890400 +>>57877683 (OP) +I hope i'm never in a road rage situation because I don't know how I would react. once I had a person follow my ass around the road wildly and I didn't own guns back then. I think they had a case of mistaken identity, they tried to cut me off and get in front of me, trying to look at my face. it's scary because I don't know if a crazed person like that is gonna shoot in my vehicle and strike me in the heart or the brain. do I shoot that person first before they can shoot me? it sucks living in america because any bozo can get a gun eazily. +--- 57890416 +>>57878005 +>Leans into it +Thank you +--- 57890421 +>>57878532 +Ive seen that happen. It drops the dude lke a baseball bat to the back of the head. The guys defenses are totally down and is in protection mode, so he crumbles! +--- 57890449 +>>57878532 +Someone should photoshop his bicep in place of the baby and the baby in place of the bicep. +--- 57890472 +>>57890314 +You probably have some bad habits that you don't realize are fucking you up because no one ever told you not to do it +--- 57890477 +>>57877683 (OP) +i like turkish shotguns and pistols +--- 57890493 +>>57890477 +--- 57890501 +>>57887572 +a man who carries a gun is a fool every day but one +--- 57890509 +>>57879314 +Shut the fuck up fudd +--- 57890519 +>>57877683 (OP) +I dont really like or hate guns, it's just a thing to me. I just own em because they're useful and likely to get banned, and it gives me something to learn and get skilled on. Not bad +--- 57890529 +>>57890519 +You listen here, bud. You either make it your entire personality or you can sell them all to me and get off my forum. +--- 57890543 +>>57877683 (OP) +Personal preference. FMJ can cause over penetration which can be a bad thing in a self defense situation. Combat is a different situation. But in the end a well placed shot is what's important. I personally wouldn't carry the cheapest ammo I could find because QC is a real thing and a failure to fire could be life and death. +--- 57890547 +>>57877683 (OP) +This is just the objective truth. After breaking in my gun with 500 rounds of 124g/147g I'm going full cheap and getting boxes of 115 gr. Unless the ammo instantly kills the target, it is always better to have more ammo then to have muh piercing for a 9mm ammunition +--- 57890553 +>>57886249 +i kinda like it but think imma get the poor mans version +--- 57890642 +>>57890553 +Get an Automag II +--- 57890835 +I keep on going to websites and stores in real life looking for a shotgun or hunting rifle when I have the money to purchase a firearm and every fucking time I go, I buy a fucking Milsurp rifle instead. Every fucking time. + +A milsurp rifle as a hunting rifle would not be much of a problem. If I didn't hunt in a mountainous state. I went hunting elk with a 1896/11 with no goddamn scope because of this. Even worse I'm going for a masters in history right now so job opportunities are iffy but this degree leads to park ranger jobs ironically. What the fuck am I going to carry in a park ranger job? +--- 57890905 +>>57877683 (OP) +FMJ is fine. Good JHP will do its job much better in most situations, but FMJ will do what it's good at in ALL situations. +--- 57890906 +I on occasion rather than either my 9x19 or 9x18 carry a pocket 22lr. +--- 57891072 +>>57877930 +>>57878005 +Muskets fired plain lead balls and they absolutely fucked people up, all this retard hand wringing over what type of modern bullet is 'best' is just because the tech is so good now there's little more to tall about. Same with your 9mm vs .45 threads constantly being posted. diff --git a/k/57878051.txt b/k/57878051.txt index 55622e6ce0ab4aae280195bb6c6e1c86be889924..4a9667fb5c5385c0eb916206dca74f4884c17b40 100644 --- a/k/57878051.txt +++ b/k/57878051.txt @@ -263,3 +263,805 @@ He didn't want you to think he didn't have a fork. But this can happen with countless guns with an extra long mag. This guy would basically break any WW2 era gun if he got his hands on it. Glock is retarded proof, I get it, but the solution is to stop being a retard. +--- 57879713 +>>57878051 (OP) +>the ejector is not replaceable +Excuse me? How the fuck was this allowed? +--- 57879743 +>>57879713 +Its part of the serialized fcg. Replacing it is replacing the "gun" +--- 57879752 +>>57878051 (OP) +This isn't new: https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/269368-p320-damaged-ejectors/ + +>Per the Sig rep, they will bend it back once under warranty. +LMAO +--- 57879765 +>>57879743 +Other guns keep it as a serviceable part though, even if it isn't always the most friendly thing to service, because they do wear. +--- 57879807 +>>57879216 +assassinations are NOT real and they can NOT hurt you mr representative +--- 57879904 +>>57879807 +so 1? +--- 57879962 +>>57879157 +>I don't care about any gun that can't be used to overthrow the government so buying handguns seems stupid to me +You are a bigger moron than the siggers. +What criteria does a gun have to meet to be “capable of taking the govt down”? I really want to see your answer because you might just out yourself as the stupidest person on the board. +--- 57879969 +>>57879962 +>siggers +whats a sigger +--- 57879988 +>>57879190 +>being this new +>(((Jarred Kushner's))) father in law +r/thedonald shutting down was the worst thing to ever happen to 4chan. +--- 57879992 +>>57878816 +>>57878836 +if you watched the video, which you didnt, youd know he pointed out exactly inside the guns where the military spec ones were already drop safe. +--- 57880153 +>>57879988 +>>being this new +pic rel +>r/thedonald shutting down was the worst thing to ever happen to 4chan. +using the iron law of woke projection that would mean you're a bunch of faggy gun enthusiasts that got chased off of reddit? +--- 57880175 +>>57879969 +It's our word, but you can use sigga +>I like the p320 +>My sigga... +--- 57880201 +>>57880175 +I don't speak ebonics +--- 57880902 +>>57880153 +This has to be a troll, no one is this big of a faggot. +--- 57880944 +>>57880902 +>This has to be a troll, no one is this big of a faggot. +I'm twice as big of a faggot as that +--- 57880983 +>>57879022 +If all the other replies haven't told you already, they. Are absolutely assblasted unironically seething faggots. SIGs are fine, Glockfags and CZoibois just can't believe their favorite flavor of wonder none lost the big army contract. +--- 57881119 +>>57879157 +Gets new gun, is upset that its literally designed wrong. + +Apparently this is inconceivable to the sigger and must be a paid marketing campaign by big Glock. +--- 57881156 +>>57878788 +Does anyone hold down their magazine release while inserting a magazine? +--- 57881181 +>>57878051 (OP) +Behold, here comes the superior handgun. +--- 57881212 +Just passing through. Letting all you cow pokes know that sig is owned by a jew. Happy trails y'all. +--- 57881443 +>>57878788 +>https://files.catbox.moe/rz2qr4.mp4 +why is he doing it without the slide on? +--- 57881462 +Sig P320 is a flawed handgun. Why siggers try to defend it so hard, I’ll never know. +>bu… but you’re just sour grapes!!! +It’s a $600 gun, anyone that can afford a Glock, M&P, etc. could afford one. +--- 57881504 +>>57881443 +Most importantly, why is he pressing the mag release while inserting a mag? +--- 57881508 +>>57881443 +with slide on you wouldn't be able to see inside the gun or whats going on +--- 57881527 +>>57881508 +With slide on maybe part of the mag would be in contact with the slide. With the slide on maybe the position of some parts is different. + +You wouldn't believe how many times I thought something was wrong with a gun, only to put it back together and see it working flawlessly. +--- 57881540 +>>57879752 +>Per the Sig rep, they will bend it back once under warranty. +AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH +--- 57881551 +>>57881527 +with the slide on and forward this issue cant happen. with the slide on and locked back it is the same as having the slide off + +obviously if the mag catch grabs the magazine before it over inserts this isnt an issue but it doesnt always do that or sometimes people ride the button. there is a reason sig put over insertion protection on the M17 and the OG 17 round mags + +the question is why did they strip that feature out? +--- 57881739 +>>57879157 +Imagine being this mad that there are people out there trying to save you your own hard earned money LMAO +--- 57881762 +>>57879209 +Literally can not happen to a glock though so I don't see your point. +--- 57881783 +>>57878051 (OP) +HK wins again! +--- 57881850 +>>57878051 (OP) +Why is the guy's voice so fucking weird? +--- 57882602 +>six years later and Glocktards still can't get over the MHS competition +--- 57882639 +SIG's logo is cooler +Glock has a gay logo and rhymes with cock +--- 57882676 +>>57878836 +They were surplus. They belonged to B Co, 2/327. I was one of the armorers who packed them up. +--- 57882697 +>>57878836 +>>57882676 +They were drop safe also. We returned them to Sig because Sig sent us newer 320s a couple years after our first batch as part of the Army's second, larger contract. +--- 57882702 +if you use an extended magazine you deserve to have your gun broken. learn to aim. +--- 57882722 +>>57882602 +--- 57882824 +What the fuck is this thread. + +This is a legitimate problem with the P320. The guy may be a faggot, but he’s right. This is another example of the P320 being lazily designed, which is just another example of nuSig being a dogshit company. + +That being said, this thread is half full of people absolutely seething that people are starting to point this out more frequently. What is wrong with you? This shit happens to companies, it happened to Remington, Kimber, and outside of the gun industry there were times where legacy brands go down the shitter. The best thing to do is to acknowledge that, move on, and put pressure on the company to stop putting out dogshit until they either break or make it. + +Ron isn’t going to fuck you if you defend his shitty gun online. +--- 57884019 +>>57881156 +My guess is that the magazine catch also prevents over-insertion, but for the purposes of the conversation (slamming a magazine in quickly) there's the possibility of it going in too fast for the mag catch to grab onto the mag. +--- 57884129 +>>57878051 (OP) +Filthy (((Siggers))) get what they fucking deserve. +Why would anyone buy a POS monkey-model pistol made by a bunch of Faux-Germanic Amerimutt/heebs? +Especially when the pistols have indian-made components, and have several design and quality control flaws which have been public knowledge for years? +--- 57884139 +>>57884019 +The mag catch only works in one direction. It doesn't prevent over-insertion and the resultant cervical trauma. +--- 57884175 +>>57879022 +because anti sig posters are racist anti semite nazi chudcel antivax transphobe pissbabies who don't believe in the hecking sciencerino +--- 57884201 +>>57878051 (OP) +How do Siggers even defend themselves at this point? All they can do is say "MUH GLOCK" like being better than a Glock is a goal. It's not the 90's anymore and everyone is better than a standard Glock except for Taurus and Turkshit +--- 57884208 +>>57884139 +Hmm, square hole, sharp edges on either notch of the mag catch.. I'm calling BS on that. +--- 57884249 +Isn’t Sig a Jewish company? +--- 57884372 +>>57882602 +DoD: +>Hey we want our next military sidearm to be modular. + +Sig: +>Ok + +Everyone else: +>No + +DoD: +>Sig wins + +/k/: +>WTF HOW DID SIG WIN THEY BRIBED THE JUDGES CEO IS JEWISH OMG WTF +--- 57884389 +>>57884372 +Everyone knows it was the price that did Glock in and anyone that doesn't wasn't actually paying attention to the MHS until it was finished. +--- 57884416 +>>57884249 +110%. +SIG Sauer Inc (SIG USA) is also completely unrelated to SIG Sauer GmbH of Germany, and SIG Sauer AG of Switzerland. +It's like how Springfield Armory Inc is completely is a new company with a fake name meant to trick boomers into thinking it's in any way related to the old US government arsenal. +--- 57884419 +>>57884208 +its quite easy to push up faster before the magazine catch engages. +the other thing is the magcatch spring is fairly weak. its not locking that shit in and impossible to move. +--- 57884469 +>>57884419 +That was essentially what I said in >>57884019, without the lie about the catch only working in one direction. No different than AR15 mags: square hole, square catch, without overinsertion stops there could be issues. +--- 57884559 +>>57884372 +More like +DoD: +>Hey we want our next military sidearm to be modular. + +Berettas: +>*eat it's own shit* + +Glock: +>We've been that for years + +Sig: +>We can make that cheaper than glock, but the quality is shit + +Everyone else: +>No + +DoD: +>Sig wins because one of ours is on the board + +HK: +>Wait there was a contest and you didn't invite me? +--- 57884662 +>>57884559 +It does make me wonder about how much truth there might be to >>57879242 +A state-funded small arms manufacturer makes sense. +--- 57884703 +>>57884662 +It probably makes sense, from a geopolitical standpoint it would make sense to have weapons made for military and possibly police to be domestic, and by proping up SIG (which already has. A good name prior) it would cut down on "accidental" gun problems from a foreign gun maker whose state of origin may not agree with America at any given time. +--- 57885025 +>>57879262 +Why would glowies try to prevent the cheapest possible gun with a 100% markup for brides to be stopped? Glowies are trying hard to push SIG and you can tell anytime their is a SIG event +--- 57885191 +There's at least one or two paid SIG shills in this thread, isn't there? +--- 57885231 +>>57879713 +I was wondering the same thing. It's a wear part and I don't think I've ever seen a pistol where you couldn't replace one. Are you supposed to just trash that whole serialized frame insert when it wears out? +--- 57885247 +>>57879022 +Must be a cohencidence +--- 57885263 +>>57879752 +>On another note, did you know that a 2 inch group within 10 yards is considered acceptable accuracy for the "match grade" X5? +Sig: Not even once. +--- 57885274 +>>57880983 +It's always the same exact shit said word for word like it's copy pasted. +--- 57885283 +>>57879752 +>the Sig P320 isn't designed to handle slide lock reloads unless you gently insert the mag +God I fucking hate what Sig has become. Guess I lucked out when I wasn't able to buy that P250 I wanted several years ago, since that was designed the same way and almost certainly has the same problem. +--- 57885301 +>>57879642 +it happens on 2011/1911 platform as well, Glock wins again. +--- 57885325 +>>57885283 +P250 was their initial test run of what would become the p320, my cousin got one when it first came out and it was a massive piece of donkey doo doo. +--- 57885326 +>>57878051 (OP) +This is true of almost every pistol, very few have a hard magazine overtravel stops like Glocks and USPs do, most rely on the magazine base plate hitting the frame for this function. This is why extended magazines have sleeves and is not unique to the P320 and it only affects gorillas who SLAM mags in with the maximal force of their body. All of those P320 magazines have over-insertion stops except for the superextendo on the left +--- 57885363 +>>57885326 +that just isn't true. the legion baseplate mags do not have over insertion stops, the strike industries mag over inserts even with the "stop" and the factory 21 rounder "stop" doesn't stop over insertion except on M17 style frames. The most common mag that causes this issue on the forum posts is that factory 21 rounder +--- 57885381 +>>57878051 (OP) +more and more i realize it was better than the sig in every way. +--- 57885413 +>>57885381 +If you know you know +--- 57885414 +>>57878522 +Unfathomably based. +--- 57885415 +>>57885363 +It looks to me like it does. Are you sure this isn't stemming from people slamming full size mags into compact frames or some other combination where the base plate can't contact the frame? +--- 57885450 +>>57885415 +it looks like it does because it does, that is an m17 style frame +--- 57885461 +>>57878546 +Back to twitter, Karen. +--- 57885465 +>>57885415 +Burt why are you constantly defending Siggers? Jesus christ you've been an unpaid spokesperson for them for months now lmao even after getting crowned a few months ago. +--- 57885476 +>>57879157 +>I don't care about any gun that can't be used to overthrow the government +seems to me like a concealable weapon would be pretty useful in domestic guerrilla warfare. +--- 57885483 +>>57885450 +?????? That's a normal P320 frame, it doesn't get any more normal afaik. What is a non-M17 style frame? The X Carry? So people ARE using the wrong magazines in the wrong frames then? + +>>57885465 +If you know that much then you know my answer without me having to give it, countering hyperbole +--- 57885504 +>>57885483 +burt my dude. look at the p320 line up and tell me how many are "normal" M17 style frames... + +if you buy a p320 legion for instance, the "correct" legion magazines over insert +--- 57885516 +>>57885483 +NTA but M17 style or regular P320 is just arguing semantics, they have the same grip shape and cut for that baseplate. + +As far as "wrong magazines" go, the fact that there's a distinction at all is questionable. Yes, people can just read the manual and buy the correct magazines which may or not be more expensive.. but a magazine for a doublestack 9mm glock is a magazine for a doublestack 9mm glock, regardless of the manufacturer, or if we're talking about a 17, 19, 45, 19x.. this same rule generally holds true for other pistols. +--- 57885520 +>>57885415 +>>57885483 +Why are you acting like the problem here is people over inserting mags, rather than Sig designing guns where a wear component that is replaceable on most all other guns is integrated into the frame and replacement is a $200 fix? +--- 57885527 +>>57885476 +>seems to me like a concealable weapon would be pretty useful in domestic guerrilla warfare. +how many pistol casualties do you imagine occur in an insurgency +--- 57885663 +>>57885520 +>replacement is a $200 fix? +its not +laws and sig overpricing make it a $200 fix +if they wanted to they could fix that shit for $20 or cover it for free and still make profit. +--- 57885712 +>>57885504 +If I search "P320 legion magazine" I see a totally different base plate designed to work with that frame using a magwell. I see a similar discrepancy with the X-Carry frame. This would be like using a Walther P88 magazine in a PPQ with a magwell. It's the exact same body shape, it will fit and it will lock in and it will function but if you slam it it's absolutely going to skip over the mag catch and hit the ejector. How is this Sig's fault and not the fault of someone slamming mags intended to stop on a P320 magwell into a Legion with a different magwell? + +>>57885516 +>As far as "wrong magazines" go, the fact that there's a distinction at all is questionable. +Absolutely disagree, see the Walther example above in this post. If I shove a Sig P226 magazine into a P229 as hard as I can what's going to happen? + +Here's an opposite example. An HK Mark 23 mag and a USP 45 mag are basically identical and fully interchangeable but for the base plate. If you stick a Mark 23 mag in a USP it fits and stops correctly, if you stick a USP mag in a Mark 23 it stops short of locking. The mag is for all intents otherwise identical, but the base plate makes it exclusive to a different gun. If I try to force a USP mag into a Mark 23 as hard as I can, who's at fault? HK for making the base plates different? + +I think it's pretty stupid that a 21 round magazine would damage a Legion or X-Five when that's probably the most likely guns to be paired with them and Sig should probably put an idiot warning on them or something if it happens a lot, but there is a clear design difference visual between """M17""" P320 style mag baseplates and Legion style baseplates, and there is no way this damage happens without forceful magazine insertions. + +I have dozens of mags modified to fit other guns and if the base plate doesn't touch the frame, I use my brain to stop my hand from being forceful with those mags in those guns. + +>>57885520 +A base plate isn't a wear component what? +--- 57885745 +>>57879076 +lol found the 556 owner. Man you guys are eternally butthurt I'll be hearing about that into my 80's +--- 57885754 +>>57878051 (OP) +Given how much scrutiny the P320 has been under (and justifiably so), I would imagine if this was a common issue we'd hear about it more often. +--- 57885781 +>>57885712 +yeah except these are all P320s... + +i played myself arguing with a tripfag thats just on me for being retarded +--- 57885783 +>>57885663 +>laws +That were in place for decades before Sig designed the gun. Not keeping them in mind when designing the gun when the US is the largest market for guns is a failure on Sig's end. + +>>57885712 +>A base plate isn't a wear component what? +The ejector you fucktard. +--- 57885817 +>>57885712 +See, the only problem with all of your examples is that the guns you're talking about have different names. Whereas the Legion, X5, X Carry, M17, etc. all are the "P320" by name. Fuck, they're just grip modules, you can take your trigger group and swap grips in 20 seconds. You can't make the same argument for the USP, Mk23, P88, PPQ, or otherwise. +>>57885745 +I wouldn't buy that genuinely mutt-tier amalgamation, I own an imported 550. +--- 57885886 +>>57885712 +expecting a p320 magazine to work in a p320 is not the same as expecting a USP mag to work in a Mark 23. if the guns are so different that using the wrong p320 magazine on the wrong p320 breaks it thats on sig for not just giving them new model names + +captcha H82A lol +--- 57885953 +>>57881551 +>the question is why did they strip that feature out? +Because now they can sell you a mag sleeve instead. +--- 57886010 +>>57878062 +>>57878132 +>>57879131 +>>57879157 +>>57879209 +>>57879220 +>>57880983 +>>57882602 +>gun that was released in 2014 has major issue +>compare it to a cheap, ubiquitous gun released in 1982 that does not have this issue because it is such a simple fix +>apparently this is a conspiracy from big gaston +--- 57886082 +>>57885783 +The ejector isn't a wear component either, what are you talking about? It's unintended damage. + +>>57885781 +>>57885817 +>>57885886 +The point isn't that the guns are different it's that they use the same exact magazine bodies. You can take a Walther P99 magazine, swap only the base plate, and it'll correctly fit a P88C. But if you take a P88C mag and slam it into a P99 it's gonna hit the ejector even though the mags are exactly the same length and construction. Same mag everything, except base plates. There's no parallel I can think of where a design changes the insertion depth of the same pistol with the same length grip, but there are tons of examples of incompatibility as a result of baseplate changes among the same pistol model, especially revolving around magwells which seems to be a key factor here. + +There's a gun tickling the back of my memory which did just change the baseplate and nothing else about the mag and made new ones incompatible with old ones, but I can't think of it. Was it a Beretta? Anyway it doesn't matter if it's a different gun, magazine geometry is what matters. +--- 57886133 +>>57879642 +Most guns have over insertion stops for this very reason retard. +Try to find me a single military gun other than the SIG that has this issue. +--- 57886162 +>>57886082 +here is the P320 Legion with its objectively correct, on the same product page magazine + +it does not have over insertion protection because sig designed it wrong. +--- 57886189 +>>57884469 +The AR magazine catch is designed to work as an over insertion stop which is why there is that bump on the mag body and a groove in the magwell. +--- 57886200 +>ejector isn't a wear component +jesus christ this board is full of fucking retards +--- 57886378 +>>57886162 +What is your source that it doesn't? I don't have one in hand to inspect obviously but why wouldn't it work like every other pistol which uses beveled aluminum baseplates which hit and stop on the magwell? Did you think the hump I circled >>57885415 was a specially designed overtravel stop feature or something and it's lack means the magazine can't stop on anything else? I just circled where the baseplate touches the magwell like it does on every pistol. In that circled P320 pic the mag could just as easily stop on the nose of the baseplate as on the side. + +I see a mark in Hickok's video that looks like it functions the way I'm expecting, with the baseplate hitting the magwell. Can you show otherwise? +https://youtu.be/EQvo73qki1w?t=533 [Embed] +--- 57886411 +>>57886162 +It looks to me like the mags are stopping right there. And he's not even using Legion mags, the table is full of regular P320 """"M17 style"""" mags +--- 57886453 +>>57878538 +Just put it on safe, bro. +--- 57886488 +The ejector is non-replaceable? Why is that? Is it because it's machined to the inside of the slide? +--- 57886500 +>>57886488 +It's not a separate part like on any gun designed by competent engineers. It's a piece of the metal subframe cut and bent into shape. +--- 57886508 +>>57879765 +Its literally a machined part of the frame on the Beretta 92fs, the 1911 a PERMANENT fixture, and molded into the fucking frame of the USP. + +Its literally just dependent on the manufacturer. +--- 57886509 +Part of the serialized module. +--- 57886511 +>>57886488 +It's part of the stamped chassis, and Sig will charge you $200 for a new one. Basically any other gun makes it a separate part that can be serviced. +--- 57886515 +>>57886500 +>>57886509 +>>57886511 +That is fucking retarded. +--- 57886518 +>>57886508 +>the 1911 a PERMANENT fixture +lmao no it fucking isn't you noguns retard. Swapping 1911 extractors is a 5 minute job at most. +--- 57886524 +>>57886518 +You're still correct, but we're talking about ejectors, not extractors. +--- 57886529 +>>57886518 +*ejector not extractor. It's actually easier to swap ejectors on one. +--- 57886538 +>>57886508 +>the 1911 a PERMANENT fixture +It's staked in place, but it's also a chunky solid block rather than a spindly finger that can be bent like on the P320. +--- 57886551 +>>57886508 +>Its literally a machined part of the frame on the Beretta 92fs +What did he mean by this? +--- 57886558 +>>57886508 +>Its literally a machined part of the frame on the Beretta 92fs +It's not though. +--- 57886567 +>>57886508 +>Average intelligence of a sigger +--- 57886643 +>>57879216 +You never watched a ISIS video have you? +--- 57886671 +>>57885325 +>>57885283 +I thought the P250 was the good one and the P320 was the shit one? +--- 57886681 +>>57884129 +>pistols have indian-made components +Which ones? +--- 57886682 +>>57886643 +yeah I remember when they cut off that dude's head with a berretta was tits +--- 57886684 +>>57886500 +Why doesn't HK, Beretta, Walther or anyone else who uses molded in or integrated extractors given shit over this? Are HK, Beretta and Walther owners just smart enough to know hot to slam the wrong magazines into their guns with the full force of a thousand suns? Or is it because it's a made up outrage based on a fallacious nonproblem? +--- 57886688 +>>57886558 +>>57886551 +Sorry, its installed with a tapered pin that is then double staked in place along side a fucking roll pin. + +What a mountain of difference. + +>>57886538 +The P320 unit is made from 7 gauge high strength stainless. + +This whole fucking thing is a self admitted Glock fag's spergout. + +The P320 and P250 have been out for how long and yet suddenly, out of nowhere, this is an issue? +--- 57886697 +>>57886684 +*ejectors +Anon got me spun +--- 57886763 +Man I can't wait to see what kind of retarded corner cutting and shitty QC comes to light once all those new Sig rifles and MGs start getting fielded. +--- 57886798 +>>57886671 +P250s were always shit but werent plauged by costcutting. It was a bad design executed compentently. P320 didnt even get the competent part right. +Nobody liked the p250 but it was the first of its kind. You expected it to be meh. +--- 57886826 +>>57886671 +The P250 was basically the same thing, except it was a hammer fired DAO design. They also got gimped because Sig had problems and needed to add a firing pin block safety, and decided integrating it into the rear sight was the best option so you don't get any sight options outside of the factory white dot/night sights. +--- 57886836 +>>57886688 +>Part that wears down with use over time is finally starting to show signs of wearing down. +How could this only start happening, now?!?! +--- 57887406 +>>57886684 +Because they have over insertion stops. +--- 57887449 +>>57879022 +Short version, they are Remington from 20 years ago. Rapidly diminishing QC, coasting on name and image from decades prior, new stuff isn’t up to the same standards, downgrading materials, while still charging brand name price. Actually on 2nd thought it’s worse than Remington. They weren’t as expensive and never outsourced production to India +--- 57887474 +>>57879108 +>he thinks Sig hate isn’t organic +It’s kinda taken over as a meme but if they didn’t consistently fuck up the critiques wouldn’t have merit. They do have merit and that’s the issue +--- 57887482 +>>57879131 +How much is Mr Cohen paying you? +--- 57887492 +>>57887449 +>doesn't answer question +>repeated narrative +k +--- 57887510 +>>57887474 +>It’s kinda taken over as a meme +holy fucking shit you must be retarded to think a specifically tailored shilling campaign is a meme +> but if they didn’t consistently fuck up the critiques wouldn’t have merit. They do have merit and that’s the issue +its fucking nuts +every reply +>its real +>repeat narrative +whoever hired this e-marketing firm needs to get fired +--- 57887668 +>>57878051 (OP) +>”ejector is not replaceable” +This has to be fake, right? +--- 57887680 +>>57887668 +its part of the sub frame and is considered the gun by the ATF. if you break it you have to buy a new p320. +--- 57887797 +>>57886681 +Good morning sirs. +All of them. +--- 57887861 +>>57879166 +Umarex makes powder burners? +--- 57887923 +>>57887406 +The USP specifically in 9mm and .40 have two overinsertion stops like Glock, the USP 45, the rest of the HKs and all the others have the same single mechanism as a P320: their baseplates. + +Try again? + +>>57887797 +Who cares where it's made? Can you demonstrate that Indian or Israeli Sig parts are inferior to US made parts? + +I can demonstrate that US made parts are inferior to Indian parts; the only two Sig parts I've had break were made in the US. And they were both replaced for free, even this 10+ year old mag release far past warranty. + +>>57887861 +Umarex owns Walther and makes all their rimfires and some of their cheaper centerfires. +--- 57888033 +>>57887923 +I didn't know that about Umarex; thanks, anon. +--- 57888049 +>>57878051 (OP) +Are those factory P320 frames? I read somewhere the issue is more prevalent with aftermarket frames. +--- 57888097 +>>57888049 +According to anons and that image, it seems to be mostly on Legion and X-Carry frames when people use mags with base plates for regular P320 frames +--- 57888101 +>>57886162 +Why do they insist on giving all their guns cringe ass names like TREAD and LEEJUN? +--- 57888214 +>>57888101 +Because the firearm industry is filled with gullible suckers who will will whip out their credit card like some pavlovian response for anything called a SPARTAN RAGNAROK HONEY BADGER or some dumb shit. +--- 57888276 +>>57879166 +>Roy Cohen +Everystein Singleberg Timeowitz. +--- 57888307 +Let me guess, this isn't a problem for the champion? +--- 57888360 +>>57887923 +>barely 1mm of material thickness for a mag release +>on a sintered part resulting in brittle failure +holy fuck siggers are beyond help +--- 57888391 +>>57879209 +but DA GLAWK doesn't have the issue, so you are just a mad sigger +--- 57888438 +>>57888360 +lol Yeah the design is pretty dumb, doubly so considering the cutout in the mag is about 3x that size. It should be shaped like any other gun, with a ramp on the downward side. It can't even be reversed, there's no reason for it to be symmetrical like that. The P225 mag release is correctly shaped +--- 57888678 +>>57878051 (OP) +>>57878788 +>>57881762 +>Literally can not happen to a glock +Ding dong, you are wrong +https://twitter.com/WSSjcklp/status/1647859367189037057 +--- 57888735 +>>57888678 +Interesting! +--- 57888827 +>>57879157 +>there is some concerted effort to counter signal sig. +I don't doubt they have issues It's just the sig spam is CERTAINLY inorganic. + +Have you considered that they've been actually fucking up bad enough, in a way that is not acceptable for a major firearms manufacturer, to warrant all the hate? This is a place where we discuss weapons senpai +--- 57888858 +>>57879202 +>I don't even care if sig actually sucks, but the effort is inorganic. + +Correct, I make a concerted effort to make at least 3 posts shitting on Sig per day, because its my duty to humanity +--- 57889005 +>>57879904 +WW1 was triggered by a man with a handgun shooting and killing someone important. Stop being a retard +--- 57889012 +>>57889005 +but 1 though right? +--- 57889015 +>>57884662 +Basically all the good domestic manufacturers died out some time in the last 30 years. +The only ones left are the unambitious and fairly antiquated ones like S&W or Ruger or the memes that somehow make a profit like Mark Serbu and Keltec. With a smattering of sometimes actually innovative companies that are just too small to be relied on, POF for example. +Colt/Winchester/Remington, etc., are all zombie companies these days. +Euros might have American branches to make guns over here, but those aren't totally trustworthy due to international politics. + +SIG is the US's best bet to make into a competitive firearms manufacturer to keep around purely domestically for supply security and as a vendor for export. +--- 57889041 +>>57884175 +You get all these adjectives for pointing out the CEO is a jew. The moment SIG goes Spanish Empire and expels them, it enters a golden age just like history always repeats itself. +--- 57889057 +>>57885191 +Paid for by the ADL for connections with the cousin of Sig's CEO. They are from the same synagogue. +--- 57889069 +>>57889015 +This is retarded, there doesn’t need to be a “national firearms company”. + +It’s pure corruption, there’s not really too much else too it really. +--- 57889084 +>>57889015 +you don't know many manufacturers then if that's your list of them, you just hear less of them because they don't have the marketing that Sig has. +--- 57889106 +>>57879204 +Umarex owns walther and the cheap walthers like the creed and ccp and what have you are made in umarex factories and not walther factories. +--- 57889129 +>>57878051 (OP) +sig has a literal jew CEO. He's known to have cut corners on Q&A, and uses indian manufacturing, and now he cuts corners on R&D. +Total shit show. +This is the only "sig" I'll ever own unless they fix their shit. +--- 57889142 +>>57888827 +I’ve been called inorganic like 40 times shit talking Sig on /k/. I just really don’t like them as a company and want people to know about all of the shady shit they’ve done the past decade. +--- 57889192 +>>57889084 +There are thousands of manufacturers. Probably at least 1 more gun company is registered every day at this point. +There aren't thousands that could theoretically outfit the US Army during a war with China for several years straight. Trying to contract between a thousand small manufacturers who previously just made 10 C list AR15s a month with their 2 CNC machines would be an exercise in insanity. +>>57889069 +Any country that is liable of getting into a large war needs to have significant domestic manufacture. And the US Government has proven that they really want to go to war with China whenever they get the chance to do it. Ain't nothing we can do about that. +Right now, our best domestic firearms manufacturers are American branches of foreign gun companies. All of which are at the mercy of international politics and international economic changes. +The Army is giving SIG a boost for the same reason that China keeps Norinco and CSCG around, or Russia keeps Kalashnikov around. +--- 57889283 +>>57888678 +That's a gen3 +--- 57889665 +I'm just here to see if the wordfilter still works. + +Basedplate. +--- 57890236 +>>57879270 +Tldr existed before Reddit was even a website +--- 57890243 +>>57879407 +>Siggers once again deflect rather than explain why Sig doesn’t suck +--- 57890325 +>>57890236 +>'a nigger actually invented the light bulb' +>*turns out he actually invented some hardly-used filament that was never put into commercial production +cool bro +--- 57890337 +>>57890243 +>>Siggers once again deflect rather than explain why Sig doesn’t suck +I don't care about Sig its just weird there's this inorganic weird effort to shit-talk some random company +inb4 you explain why Sig is Le Terrible for the 14th time +--- 57890355 +Pretty inorganic in here honestly. +--- 57890385 +>>57890355 +but bro it's run by (((()))()()()()()() so that means you can shit up the board for hours on end! Seriously it's weird how it's the same exact shit almost word for word said ad nauseam over and over again. It's not even being said to spread awareness it's just said out of rage or spite. +--- 57890425 +>>57890337 +Have you considered stopping sucking off Sig for a little, letting your brain get some oxygen, and thinking about it for a little? Name another gun that you can do $200 worth of damage because you used a magazine for that model gun but not for that exact configuration of that model gun, despite that model of gun being advertised as having mix and match modularity. +--- 57890432 +>>57890425 +>Have you considered stopping sucking off Sig for a little, +I don't even care about handguns +this dispute is fake and gay +--- 57890461 +>>57890355 +I don't even like the p320, I think they're over hyped by youtubers and dude bros, over priced for what they are, and a shitty design compared to the p365, which also suffers from the same finish issues. +But, the anti-sigger shills are one of the most annoying and asinine groups of people on the planet earth and I wish they would all kill themselves. +--- 57890463 +>>57890355 +Looks like you murdered a unicorn family to color those faggot guns +--- 57890496 +>>57890461 +>I don't even like the p320 +Me neither, I'm just here to push back against hyperbole +--- 57890510 +What was the last good year for non-shit Sigs? I like the feel of the P226 but I don't want a Cohengun. +--- 57890511 +>>57878051 (OP) +Glock, it just works. +--- 57890540 +>>57890510 +Cohen hasn't really fucked with metallurgy, the 226 and derivatives are fine. It's the designs made post-Jew that are the problem. +--- 57890554 +Kill siggers. Behead siggers. Roundhouse kick a sigger into the concrete. Slam dunk a sigger baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy nogunz. Defecate in a siggers food. Launch siggers into the sun. Stir fry siggers in a wok. Toss siggers into active volcanoes. Urinate into a siggers gas tank. Judo throw siggers into a wood chipper. Twist siggers heads off. Report siggers to the IRS. Karate chop siggers in half. Curb stomp pregnant siggers. Trap siggers in quicksand. Crush siggers in the trash compactor. Liquefy siggers in a vat of acid. Eat siggers. Dissect siggers. Exterminate siggers in the gas chamber. Stomp sigger skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate siggers in the oven. Lobotomize siggers. Mandatory abortions for siggers. Grind sigger fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown siggers in fried chicken grease. Vaporize siggers with a ray gun. Kick old siggers down the stairs. Feed siggers to alligators. Slice siggers with a katana. +--- 57890588 +>>57890510 +It's virtually impossible to define it via years like that because Sig US AND Sig Germany were assembling frankenguns with parts from both countries for a number of years while they operated concurrently. But very very broadly, the late-2000s were the years for those frankenguns which did have a bad reputation at the time, say 2007-2010. I'm not sure of the exact year P226s stopped being made in Germany but I want to say it was around 2010 with some German frames and stuff continuing to be made until 2011-2012 or so. They continued making all-German P226 X-Fives and other heirloom models until around 2020. + +That said I don't see a much if any difference in the big parts of mine (frame, slide, barrel) and I doubt you could quantify the quality of the small parts since MIM can be as good or as bad as QC allows and there's absolutely no evidence to suggest one country's MIM is of a different quality to another or that one company's machining is different to another. To head off another question here, Sig's problems are all engineering related not manufacturing related as evidenced by them quietly iterating problems out once discovered and future iterations not suffering the same failures. + +If you absolutely have to have an all-German one then look for 2006 or earlier. But other than the dumb memes and prejudice in these threads I don't see why you would, Mark 25s are REALLY nice feeling and they are US made. +--- 57890592 +>>57890510 +>>57890588 +Oh and I forgot to say, German guns are always triple serial numbered on the frame, slide and barrel as well as proofed and date marked. US guns have none of that. +--- 57890604 +>>57878522 +It’s a Zpap but whatever +--- 57890616 +>>57890355 +How do you feel about the modern p210? Is it of lesser quality than originals? My fiance really wants one. +--- 57890622 +>>57890588 +The only sig I would ever get is a Mk 25, I liked it even more than the legion. +--- 57890653 +>>57890616 +I LOVE it it's one of my favorite guns! I don't know how much they've increased since I got mine but when the P210 Standard came out I thought it was a very good deal at ~$1,100 since the only things the P210 Target at $1,500 has over it are the grips and adjustable sights. + +Since the thread wants salacious crumbs, the guide rod screw of mine did break but the gun still functioned and I could have left it like that, but Sig replaced the whole assembly for free. The screw just holds the recoil spring captive instead of free like a P226. I also noticed that if I overtightened the screw that holds the P210 fire control group assembly into the frame it would cause friction with the slide, so I had to un-gronk that screw slightly. Function has been excellent, feels great, looks great and it's a good value compared to the bozo classic P210 prices. + +>>57890622 +I don't know what it is about the Mk25 bro but it really does feel a notch above even my German P226, real nice feeling gun! +--- 57890668 +>>57890653 +Thanks for the feedback. Guess I'll have to make her a happy woman. +--- 57890675 +>>57889015 +>SIG is the US's best bet to make into a competitive firearms manufacturer to keep around purely domestically for supply security and as a vendor for export. +lol lmao etc you fucking siggers holy shit. You are pure civilian thinking and have no idea what you're talking about if you think the likes of Textron or General Dynamics or the like couldn't trivially supply the military as they do in general. The AAI subsidiary alone mogs Sig. Hell even if you want to talk US subsidiaries of euro companies, there is FN as well. Where do you think the current LMG (SAW) comes from? Or, you know, ever heard of U.S. Ordnance? I know the name is tricky to remember. +--- 57890681 +>>57878132 +Is he wrong though +Siggers be like +--- 57890710 +Are the anti-Sig threads just new the anti-CZ threads that were so prevalent a few years ago? When /k/ decides to move on from Sig, what gun manufacturer will be in the cross-hairs next? +--- 57890719 +>>57890710 +Keltec +--- 57890729 +>>57890710 +Everyone already agrees that CZ owners are troons, and that SIG owners are military washouts or glowies. I say that new smart gun brand will get it's time in the shit when it is inevitably found that it's a shit gun that doesn't work but the people in charge try a media blitz for force out competition +--- 57890734 +>>57890432 +you care enough to defend it +--- 57890758 +>>57890710 +I predict in 5 years time Berettafags will have become so numerous and insufferable as a result of Beretta's incredible quality and pricing getting their guns into sperg's hands that they will become the new Glocksuckers, exhausting any remaining goodwill of the brand despite it's inherent virtues, leaving it's reputation here to slump back to a ~2010 era noguns bully target du jour +--- 57890759 +>>57890734 +didn't defend them +--- 57890773 +>>57890719 +I think a lot of the hate on /k/ comes from the board's tendency to be contrarian. CZ got it because a lot of younger, first time gun owners started buying them, and a lot of the Sig hate comes from the fact that they're raking in military contracts left and right. I don't know if Keltec is popular enough to get a reaction out of this board. +--- 57890777 +>>57885274 +Is it wrong though? It should be a pasta for how often people ask about Sig products and their quality. +--- 57890793 +>>57890758 +That was my thought too. Lot of M&P shield fanboys popping up lately too. I could see them making the board's shitlist down the line. +--- 57890797 +>>57890773 +Keltec is too much of a well known meme to actually be a thing to hate. It would be like car guys suddenly hating Alfa Romeo +--- 57890807 +>>57890793 +M&P might get big as the new anti-glock crowd as Siggers reputation falls ground floor. I can see M&P hate threads. +--- 57890850 +>>57885381 +Do berettas have overinsertion stops too? +--- 57890881 +>>57886688 +>What a mountain of difference. +Yes because it's replaceable without changing the entire guts of the gun +--- 57890929 +>>57890850 +on the slide catch. +I had to see if sig would have done the same. they dont. +--- 57890935 +>>57890929 +for reference diff --git a/k/57878145.txt b/k/57878145.txt index 2668bba641ac2111d0fcc9199cd4625c2405f006..5e001133c26960a39d0a371bca25c1e7576f86fe 100644 --- a/k/57878145.txt +++ b/k/57878145.txt @@ -50,3 +50,139 @@ Most people will be doing this job. Scavenge everything and bring it to one central location. It will be rationed by the warlord. Perishables will be used first. If it has a seed, plant it. Hunt whenever practical for meat, keep fish as a back-up. Your job determines the amount of food you get rationed. +--- 57879678 +>>57879636 +Good post +Any thoughts on extruding brass for making cartridges from scratch? Also, when you've used up all the available chemicals I suppose you'd have to find natural sources for your powder and primers. In some parts of the world you have natural sources of sulfur (there are sulfur pits in Ukraine for example) and saltpeter +I imagine you'd have a lot of trouble extracting and refining some of these things by hand though, seeing as it's been hundreds of years since anyone has had make black powder absolutely from scratch using naturally occurring compounds +--- 57879707 +>>57879663 +There is an awful lot of unused land that can be planted with vegetables like potatoes and pumpkins. Like road verges and public parks, Also lawns +So even in an urban area you can actually grow a lot of food. You can raise chickens and rabbits in cages too +--- 57880453 +>>57879678 +I'm basing this off of where I live. We have several large sporting goods chains that sell reloading equipment. There are also several metal-working shops just outside of town. I guarantee someone here has the expertise to make cases with the machinery and material available. + +As for the chemical components, a lot of it can be found at Home Depot/ Lowes. There is also an area known for sulfur about an hour away with nothing but farmland in-between. Saltpeter can be made crudely by using human and animal waste in some particular way. I don't know it off the top of my head, but I have the process saved somewhere. Basically, someone is going to get extra rations for collecting saltpeter from the pissy-shitties slurry. + +>>57879707 +Yes, potatoes, melons, zucchini are relatively easy to grow. Like I said, basing this off of my area. We have a large lake halfway surrounded by forest that would be great to grow food. There are also some deer in it. Chickens, ducks, and fish are easy meat sources. +--- 57880496 +>>57879678 +I think a scenario in which common chemicals are all used up and are no-longer being produced is more of an "end of history" scenario. Any kind of calamity that would cause that level of destruction would be nigh unsurvivable. At that point we're going back to hatchets and clubs. +--- 57880500 +>>57880453 +>Saltpeter can be made crudely by using human and animal waste in some particular way +Yeah, you basically put shit piss and dead animals in a big pile, cover it with dirt and leave it for a year or so. I think you need to have a roof over the pile to keep rain off it too. The extraction process is kinda crude and work intensive iirc, lots of boiling and straining and filtering til you get the final product +--- 57880517 +>>57880496 +Well true enough but in some parts of the world you might run out of these things quicker than other areas. And you'd want to be somewhat self-sufficient anyway, rather than simply using up your old-world stockpiles, even if you have a lot of them +--- 57880684 +>>57880500 +Hence the extra rations. An extra can of beans per week for the poop boilers. +--- 57880737 +>>57880684 +Maybe it's a good thing my country is getting filled with pajeet immigrants. They'd do the needful +--- 57880979 +>>57878145 (OP) +>Would they start making basic muskets and black powder to offset their ammo shortage? + + +Yeah, unironically they would. +--- 57881012 +>>57880979 +Give dem niggas a volley +--- 57882822 +>>57880737 +"Jes coomander, I bil do dee necessary." +*head bobbles* +--- 57882872 +>>57878145 (OP) +>you can purify your own water of most things, including some chemical warfare agents, by using vetiver grass +>power can be cheaply, effectively, and robustly supplied via sterling engines that run on a variety of fuel sources, including the sun +First faction to figure these two things out immediately gets to start playing with well fed soldiers and weapons made in a machine shop while everyone is still cobbling archeotech together and fighting over old packets of skittles. +--- 57882945 +You can make a primitive gunpowder from charcoal, saltpeter, and sulfur in a nuclear apocalypse survival situation. Saltpeter can be sourced from guano (literal batshit) or animal excrement which is nasty but it works. +--- 57883816 +>>57882945 +> animal excrement which is nasty but it works. +eh not as simple, you have to ferment it in piss and hay for atleast a couple of months for a good yield +>>57882872 +what about contaminated soil? +--- 57884006 +>>57883816 +>what about contaminated soil? +Vetiver grass is currently in use to prevent erosion, the spread of certain invasive insects, and to purify contaminated soil and water as a form of bioremediation. It handles heavy metal toxicity, high salinity, and excessively low or high pH levels. Really cool stuff. Can also serve as a privacy screen/fence in the same way a good tall hedge can because of the density and height to which it grows. It is also drought resistant. The only real downside to it is that it absolutely needs full sunlight for proper growth. +--- 57884699 +>>57884006 +>It handles heavy metal toxicity +u sure it would be able to handle radioactive fallout, i mean how the fuck does it even work, it sucks up all the bad shit while it grows and when its done i toss it our somewhere? +--- 57885001 +>>57878145 (OP) +The ammo you have would last you so long that you'd probably have smokeless cartridge production up and running again, at least on some scale, before you ran out. +Worst case scenario the warlord sets up black powder production to stretch the ammo supply, but there's no reason the muskets would have to be "basic", no reason you wouldn't crank out the latest and best Musket designs anyone ever thought of. +--- 57885047 +>>57884699 +>u sure it would be able to handle radioactive fallout, +I'm pretty confident, but don't take my word for it. +https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32212968/ +14 days to clean water worst case scenario sounds pretty good to me. +>how the fuck does it even work, it sucks up all the bad shit while it grows and when its done i toss it our somewhere +Sucks up the bad shit and keeps it safely within its leaves, no need for disposal. +--- 57885275 +>>57880453 +>Chickens, ducks, and fish are easy meat sources. +I'd be worried about fags hunting everything to extinction in the first few months. Anyone with a gun is going to think "yeah I'll just go grab some deer" the second they have to think about food. +--- 57885563 +>>57885047 +won't that fuck up the food chain and make animals inedible +--- 57885607 +>>57885563 +If you graze your animals on it, yes. You could always... not do that. +--- 57887060 +>>57879678 +>seeing as it's been hundreds of years since anyone has had make black powder absolutely from scratch using naturally occurring compounds +false, it still happens, although usually just as a novelty now. You can refine potassium nitrate from urine, but it takes months, Charcoal should be obvious, and sulfur is optional. You can use a ratio of 100 parts KNO3 to 23 parts charcoal to get an acceptable musket powder. +The US army improvised munitions handbook has a good guide on the process +--- 57887126 +I spent like six months researching this back in about 2016 + +>powder + +Smokeless is easy enough to make using either the Haber/Ostwald process or the arc process if you're desperate. The factory is likely to blow up sometimes though + +>brass + +Can be milled from rods of metal, or just reloaded on a reloading press. Making new brass from sheet metal requires industrial grade presses and a bunch of different dies, but it's possible + +>bullets + +Just melt some lead lmao. Worry about the brain poisoning later + +>primers + +A true pain in the ass because it's a tiny part with all the mechanical complexity of brass, and primary explosives like killing people. Likely, the only solution is just to accept that whatever primers you build will be garbage compared to pre-war. +--- 57887304 +>>57887126 +>smokeless powder is easy enough but primers are hard +How the fuck do people even come to this conclusion when in reality it's the exact opposite? +--- 57887365 +>>57887304 +>because it's a tiny part with all the mechanical complexity of brass, and primary explosives like killing people +--- 57887398 +>>57885275 +Much like dumping your shit in the water, that would presumably be heavily punished by whoever the local gang leader was. +--- 57889762 +I hope civilization collapses so I can re-populate the Earth with my sister. +--- 57890160 +>>57885047 +>>57884006 +>>57884699 +Why are you niggers talking about fallout contamination of soil? +Isn't fallout primarily a problem for the first few weeks after which point it's decayed enough to no longer be a serious threat? +--- 57890189 +>>57890160 +Heavy metal toxicity has a variety of causes beyond just fallout, anon. In any situation where general industry has collapsed there are going to be lots of unintentional spills and leaks that nonetheless are very deadly to the people downstream of them. I've got no clue what the long term effects of fallout are after the radiation has died out, and only looked into it after the other anon asked. +--- 57891153 +>my thread is still up +Pleasant surprise, some very intelligent answers itt thanks anons diff --git a/k/57878883.txt b/k/57878883.txt index 57bce1abb238e0b6a824e586dddd5cd775f1f37a..1cea97a59331299da28138adb289c76bec831d12 100644 --- a/k/57878883.txt +++ b/k/57878883.txt @@ -47,3 +47,149 @@ Look I love arab women and gently making love to them while their angry brothers --- 57879478 >>57879461 Based and christpilled. Christ is King and I am His greatest soldier +--- 57879854 +>>57879006 +Problem is that online security is an endlessly ongoing struggle while physical security is more of a onetime big investment (secure doors+windows, better locks, motionsensor lights, maybe a camera) and then only maintenance (training with your ccw) +>hardening your online presence isnt hard but for most people they cant deal with a world without being able to watch shitty videos on youtube or endlessly scrolling tiktok fapping to furry tranny porn +I think there's just a big generational divide between the people who remember the internet without widespread social media and the people who can't fathom not posting everything on instagram. +If you'd start proposing to stop using Ring, Alexa, cloud-based IoT gadgets, don't buying appliances that need their own app to function, not giving every fucking app on your phone access to all permissions; you'd look like Ted Kaczynski in their eyes (if they even know who he is, maybe there's an "educational" tiktiok about him) +--- 57880040 +>>57879063 +>everyone thought it was a random homeless guy +>this is how he actually fucking died +>the guy who stabbed him wasn't even some rando but rather someone he knew through work +lol +--- 57880059 +>mental outlaw +more like mental midget +absolute pseud that muppet +--- 57880075 +>>57878883 (OP) +So what's the deal with his assassination and it was an assassination because they were quiet and everyone assumed it was like a black guy or something because why not it's America and then they said it was a petite and then an Iranian and then a petite again and everyone kind of given the nature of tech and techies now assumes it's a lover's quarrel. anyway... +--- 57880114 +>>57878883 (OP) +Now in my experience and as someone that did this for the military and does it for corpos now cyber security people tend to be massive boot lickers because it's literally their job to enforce policy and detect things their employer doesn't like. If you're worried about someone using Tech as a vector to attack you you should read industrial society and its future you shouldn't learn how to annoy people via group policy and cbt's cleverly disguised as emails. + +Anything related to counterinsurgency up to and including us-based companies managing their social media platforms is a good look into how your data is managed and used against you and why ideally you just shouldn't have data and identities on the internet. +--- 57880162 +Imagine your Mark Zuckerberg or Jeff bezos and some Street shitting Dalit you hired to replace and confound white labor, instead of consigning their fourth or fifth infant corpse to the muck of the Ganges, as would be happening in the "good timeline", just slashes your fucking throat as you're waddling back to your condo with your falafel. The last words you hear are "bitch lasagna". +--- 57880234 +>>57878883 (OP) +Mental Outlaw is based nigger. + +It's nice to see when all my interests converge with Mental Outlaw starting to talk about right to repair and Louis Rossmann, and also right to self defense. +--- 57880245 +>>57880162 +To me the first thing that came to mind was "Knife School". +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsGcg1icSyA [Embed] +--- 57880318 +I use arch btw +--- 57880340 +>>57878883 (OP) +>cpu from 2008 +what the fuck +--- 57880369 +>>57880245 + +https://youtu.be/5WzKDdj0CxY [Embed] +--- 57880421 +>>57880340 +One of last CPUs without Intel ME rootkit. +--- 57880451 +>>57879063 +unbridled cope. yet another case of white on white crime and bob lee was no doubt a rapist nigger +--- 57880458 +>>57879461 +>event where some sandniggers +And the FBI, they escorted the armed killers right to the front door. +--- 57880476 +>>57880340 +It's still pretty fast for many computing tasks. +The only reason it might struggle with desktop office/enterprise software and web stuff is that the software is subhuman garbage these days. +Games, videos and other tasks that might fundamentally require a lot of computation are another matter, of course. +--- 57880502 +>>57878883 (OP) +>linux tranny +--- 57880547 +>>57879063 +>>57879214 +Must have been some good pussy if he died for her +>>57879427 +He was having an affair with her, double stupid to tell her brother, probably would have been killed by the husband otherwise +>>57880451 +>white +--- 57880616 +I work in network security, and I'd be pleasantly surprised if a single one of you actually was particularly hardened in your home computing environment. That said on the scale of things it probably doesn't matter too much if most of you get hacked either, simply because you're not very dependent on it. I have data going back something like 30 years, losing it or my home business environment or everything else would be crushing but I've seen multiple anons be like "oh yeah hdd crashed and I lost all my stuff can you share some of my old porn!?!" and that's it. For most people it's probably enough if they pay for a backup service, and then if they get completely destroyed by ransomware to just reformat or buy new kit, even if it means some of you are part of botnets busy attacking the rest of us. About the only thing that is particularly high risk is online banking, and there it's easy to just tell people "get an iPhone/iPad, keep it on the latest, and use the app" since those are locked down better than most people will do anyway. + +I agree that physical security is not done as much as it should be, though also worth noting that it's a lot more expensive to retrofit than to do upfront. But if you're not running a business or other valuable activity or fairly heavily dependent on home networked security getting completely hacked digitally probably isn't that bad if some minimal hygiene is observed. +--- 57880635 +>>57880616 + +thank you for a few blips in the dead internet +--- 57880641 +>>57878883 (OP) +>Arch +>567 packages +>Sigger +Checks out +--- 57880689 +>>57880547 +Based sandnigger, adulterers get the rope (knife in this case) +--- 57881517 +>>57880616 +>hardened in your home computing environment +Examples/recommendations? +--- 57881529 +>>57881517 +wrap your cpu with tinfoil +--- 57881572 +>>57881517 +>Examples/recommendations? +Keep updated of course, but also run a packet firewall on client system and be cautious about connections. Isolate different stuff in its own VLANs with well controlled firewall between them, and even better for user interactive stuff capable of it (like computers/tablets/phones) use a virtual overlay network based on the noise framework like WireGuard or Nebula. Selfhost as much as possible, use hardware keys as much as possible (YubiKey and NitroKey are the two big ones), use a password manager and good fully random passwords, have your own domain and email control, have a good zfs based NAS with solid auto snapshotting, run gui/ssh and services on separate NICs, and more I'm forgetting. I should make or find some good rundowns, but some stuff is fairly easy and some takes a lot more work and expertise right now than honestly it should. I have no problem envisioning nice GUIs on a lot of this that would let anyone inclined pick the low hanging fruit, but probably unsurprisingly the sorts of folks doing development often don't care about, or flat out suck at, UX and care more about bc. There's also stuff that SHOULD be built-in features, like unexpected entropy increase watchdogs, or bandwidth watchdogs, that afaik you need to program yourself right now. It's not nearly as smooth as it should or could be. +--- 57882769 +>>57878883 (OP) +Good thread. Bump +--- 57882837 +since the IOT (internet of things) is pozzed someone should make a thread on setting up a home security system using open source software/hardware. I like the Raspberry PI but I don't trust them. Still better than that fucking Amazon Ring bullshit that all my normalfag NPC neighbors have normalizing the idea of filming your neighbors on their own property. Fucking cunts. +--- 57882899 +>>57879473 +>what do you expect? +In the second case I expect the niggers to begin applauding me for taking their sisters out of the hood +--- 57882941 +>>57882899 +you didn't just take his sister you took his wife. It's poetic justice watching Western Hijabis slowly become more secular and slutty with lip fillers/plastic surgery and "modest" clothing that is anything but + +Islamic and Indian culture is why some degree of Hypergamy is necessary even if it's out of control in the West. All the "based" traditionalism of these cultures that incels champion results in nothing but dysgenic inbred mutants that don't abide by the r/K selection theory +--- 57882971 +>>57882941 +>r selection: breed with as many different women as possible +>K selection: only breed with the best possible mate + +>Muslims/Indians: only breed with your sister and have 20 kids while being the 18th generation to do so +--- 57882988 +>>57878883 (OP) +1. You're a nerd and I'm retarded +2. That an m17? +--- 57885399 +>>57878883 (OP) +install gentoo +--- 57887125 +>>57885399 +based +--- 57887241 +>>57878883 (OP) +Isn't that guy just a knockoff of Luke Smith, who himself is just a dude who earned a little audience by spoonfeeding them /g/ memes and know-how. +--- 57887289 +>>57887241 +Anyone that posts Wojaks or uses them for thumbnails should not be taken seriously +--- 57890311 +https://www.youtube.co/watch?v=1oFMjNYZUMQ +>FUCKING NORMIES SUCK +--- 57890444 +>>57882837 +>since the IOT (internet of things) is pozzed +IOT is a super broad category anon. The big thing with it is to learn to distinguish between stuff that has WAN dependencies ("cloud") and stuff that is fine LAN-only. With a decent router and WAP/switch setup (I like Omada) that supports MPSK/PPSK, you can then very easily isolate IOT kit on its own VLANs and tightly control what it can talk to and how. +>someone should make a thread on setting up a home security system using open source software/hardware +For router/gateway/network services I think OPNsense is extremely solid and has both a decent (though unpolished in some respects) GUI and solid documentation, which is something a lot of open source projects lack. Can be installed on essentially any bogstandard PC hardware, with all the benefits that brings. There are other open source options for that role like VyOS if you prefer full commandline for everything. + +It gets rougher after that. I haven't found a really good open source video system I'm happy with yet for example, though may just be missing it. Also not sure it really matters vs running something in a dedicated VM and again, just fully isolating it (can talk to cameras, not the internet). It's a deep rabbit hole. diff --git a/k/57879709.txt b/k/57879709.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..77370d2f226c1697fe86ec880be7586be86c74ee --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57879709.txt @@ -0,0 +1,190 @@ +----- +--- 57879709 +if you were to start profiting off of the ukraine war, how would you do it? +--- 57879720 +As I currently do. Eating weird pancake things in Hitel Mozart Odessa rn. +--- 57879725 +>>57879709 (OP) +exactly how people have already done it. Start a gofundme, then disappear with the profits. +--- 57879726 +Become an employee in the Russian MIC refurbishing mothballed tanks after thousands of lost tanks and ifv’s at the front. Easily 2-3 years of work. Pocket all the money reserved for actual upgrades, i.e. thermals, fire control, etc. +--- 57879728 +tg accounts fake crowdfunding for both sides +--- 57879730 +>>57879720 +Your ONE(1) job is to post cats you faggot +--- 57879733 +>>57879709 (OP) +Scavenge battlefields for "trophies" to sell to slavaboos abroad. +--- 57879744 +Become a russian propagandist that pockets money from thirsty boomers: https://twitter.com/p_kallioniemi/status/1647199965540646913 +--- 57879745 +>>57879730 +--- 57879748 +>>57879709 (OP) +>if you were to start profiting off of the ukraine war, how would you do it? +run for President of Ukraine +--- 57879811 +>>57879748 +Please elucidate in detail all of the ways in which Zelensky has been enriched by the war +And remember your handlers will review your work and poor performance WILL result in you dying in a ditch in the donbass, probably on video for us to laugh at +--- 57879812 +>>57879709 (OP) +I would just want to be able to be invisible and invincible. I'd scour the battlefields picking up magazines, rifles and gucci gear whenever I find it. Not even to resell it, just to enjoy it and shoot trash outside. +--- 57879842 +>>57879709 (OP) +offer loans for rebuilding damaged infrastructure etc. at very fair interest rates and stakes in rebuilt infrastructure + +oy i also have some friends who could do the rebuilding and eventual maintenance of said infrastructure my gentile friend, they are very good, i can get some special prices just for you too +--- 57879844 +>>57879812 +I dislike this war but the other day I saw a still image of some devastated slavs(ukie or russian I honestly do not know) and saw a wonderful bake' mag, and suddenly wished I was around just to pick shit like that up. +--- 57879892 +Ukraine offers 20% interest on dollars you put into their banks with 4% being taken back for the Army leaving you with 16% interest. +--- 57879915 +>>57879892 +holy fucking shit is that true? +--- 57879959 +>>57879748 +This is the real answer lol. +It would also appear that at least a portion of the weapons sent to Ukraine aren’t making it their soldiers and most likely some of those weapons will make their way out of the country and into the hands of private enthusiasts. +Then again as long as the US doesn’t do something really silly like I don’t know let a very prolific arms dealer go free n exchange for drug smoking, ungrateful third rate basketball player, as long as they don’t do anything that it’ll probably be fine +--- 57879964 +>>57879915 +Yup +--- 57879986 +>>57879964 +i don't know why I'm surprised +what a fucking grift +--- 57879997 +Offer to make political threads on the weapons board for a small fee. +--- 57880005 +>>57879748 +>>57879959 + >POLAND WANTS TO ANNEX UKRAINE JUST AS RUSSIA DOES + +>ZELENSKY STEALS MILLIONS JUST LIKE PUTIN DOES + +>THE WHOLE WORLD IS JUST ONE BIG RUSSIA, WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE ME????? +--- 57880012 +>>57879959 +>as long as they don’t do anything that it’ll probably be fine +bro I got some bad news +--- 57880036 +>collect empty shells +>smelt them +>sell for profit +Do people in warzones not do this? +--- 57880926 +>>57879709 (OP) +I'd choose to make $1 for every shitty Ukrainian war thread every faggots and shill posts and be a millionaire by the end of the week. Thanks for the dollar, queerbait. +--- 57881425 +Buy stock in that South African neon plant. +--- 57881638 +((( They ))) start wars to facilitate human trafficking. +--- 57881663 +>>57880036 +brass goblins be gone +--- 57881693 +>>57879709 (OP) +Invest in companies that produced whatever the US is sending to Ukraine or seem likely to in the future. +--- 57881730 +You missed the boat, nerd +--- 57881735 +>>57879709 (OP) +Oh I don't know maybe something like send billions in equipment under the guise of supporting Ukraine in order to weaken the Russian military. But hear me out I would, hypothetically only of course, make tax payers pay for initial cost of the equipment while ukraine has to pay something similar to a lease in order to keep the stuff and get more. Then I would pressure EU countries I have a lot of influence over to give ukraine money and support so they can pay for said lease, preferably with monthly payment to cash in not only from tax payers but also from a country in debt for years to come and other countries that feel obligated to pay for it. Maybe even fuel the fire with a bit of shilling in news and social media. + +Just a hypothetical idea though. +--- 57881736 +>>57879709 (OP) +be American MIC, if you can't get there get into Turkish or German MIC +--- 57881742 +>>57881425 +>investing in short-term prospects. +Low energy. +Copper will be the new oil in less than two decades, and it will last. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgOEGKDVvsg [Embed] +--- 57881746 +>>57879709 (OP) +Ebay +--- 57881826 +>>57879709 (OP) +Buy LNG freighter stock, raytheon, LM, start a tiktok page where i use my 4 years of experience as an MP to legitimize all my retarded takes on the war and get sponsored by world of tanks +--- 57881891 +>>57881742 +i think you're ill informed about noble gas production, or, it depends if you feel western sanctions on china will hold. + +but yes copper is also a safe bet. +--- 57884068 +>>57879709 (OP) +Traffic vulnerable Ukrainian girls to Israeli brothels. +--- 57884081 +>>57879842 +talmudic +--- 57884763 +>>57879959 +>as long as the US doesn’t do something really silly like I don’t know let a very prolific arms dealer go free n exchange for drug smoking, ungrateful third rate basketball player, as long as they don’t do anything that it’ll probably be fine +What a lunatic low IQ take. +--- 57884778 +Make videos about how Russia is actually winning and tellign the truth mainstream media are trying to hide. +--- 57884847 +>>57879709 (OP) +I would run a company focusing on the rebuilding post-conflict, snatch the aid money +--- 57885315 +Sell military "surplus" to /k/ommandos +--- 57887109 +>>57879709 (OP) +Buy up a ton of cheap real-estate that is bound to increase in value once the war is eventually over. +--- 57887170 +>>57884763 +It doesn't matter whether he's going to go back to arms dealing or not, it was a completely retarded self own of a deal that made the US a laughing stock. +I was also mainly joking, though not about the arms going missing. +--- 57887192 +>>57879709 (OP) +sell defective ball bearings to Russian manufacturing factories +I get money, their machines get sabotaged, the money is drained from the side I want to lose. +--- 57887198 +>>57879959 +Kek at the redditcucks who don't get the joke +--- 57887207 +>>57881746 +Honestly if there was proof that the watch is legit a war trophy I'd be interested. Be cool to wear a genuine piece of militaria, straight from the frontline +--- 57887212 +>>57879709 (OP) +Scavenge dead russians for small arms to turn into refurbished parts kits and ship 'em off to AOA. +--- 57887263 +The completely amoral yet most profitable way is to just sell weapons to both sides. In fact, just sell weapons to both sides of every war and you're guaranteed to get retardedly rich. +--- 57887284 +>>57887109 +>buying land in Russia +ngmi +--- 57890033 +>>57879709 (OP) +I would start selling ukraine flags and pro ukraine stickers and shit +This probably would earn more profit if the war had just kicked off +--- 57890050 +>>57879709 (OP) +>how would you do it? +Own a big construction company and offer my services post war to the EU and Ukraine +--- 57890074 +>>57879709 (OP) +Well there is an internet LARPING company called the FORWARD OBSERVATIONS GROUP and they seem to be doing it pretty well, that or you could copy that one boomer from last year or Yaeger +--- 57890086 +Get elected to congress. +--- 57890376 +>>57879709 (OP) +sell russian widows into sex slavery (unironically the only way out of the economic hell they're sliding into) +--- 57890753 +>>57879709 (OP) +I would beg the US and NATO for billions. Seems pretty fool proof so far. +--- 57891651 +>>57879709 (OP) + +Posting YouTube links on /k/ +--- 57891659 +>>57879745 +look at him go! +--- 57891685 +Selling airsoft-tier polymer weapon attachments to both sides. + +Seeing wooden stock AKs being used in a current year conflict in Europe (as opposed to africa/ME) triggers autism in me, worse than the abysmal online discussion, double think, and constant shilling. diff --git a/k/57879913.txt b/k/57879913.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..883a8c9224c54a98a7a90baa6e2a68551f148ff4 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57879913.txt @@ -0,0 +1,678 @@ +----- +--- 57879913 +Why was SS camouflage so ahead of the curve? +--- 57879918 +>>57879913 (OP) +Is that why they lost? +--- 57879928 +Give it a rest, Dennis. +--- 57879939 +>>57879918 +>Is that why they lost? +Camo so good you don't even see them win. +--- 57879972 +>>57879918 +Post estradiol +--- 57879979 +>>57879913 (OP) +Why did you just post a picture of any empty field? +--- 57879994 +>>57879928 +>Dennis +Dennis Smirnov is a vatnik from Serbia living off German gibs. Your post makes no sense. +--- 57880002 +>>57879918 +>>57879928 +>>57879939 +Seething tourists are getting ridiculous. +--- 57880147 +>>57879918 +>>57879928 +Seethe harder leftypol. + +>>57879979 +>>57880002 +Based. +--- 57881191 +>>57879913 (OP) +>Why was SS camouflage so ahead of the curve? + +Were they? Italy had issued camo much earlier than Germany. England had two separate camo patterns, including one two piece three color suit and the Denison jacket's early DPM pattern. USA issued camo patterns from 1942. +--- 57881195 +>>57879913 (OP) +Whole Nazi German doctrine and technology was designed by Nordic Ayyys. +--- 57881197 +>>57879913 (OP) +For me, its splinter camo +--- 57881272 +I want an SS uniform for meme costume parties but I can't find them anywhere senpai. +--- 57881308 +>>57881301 +I'll look into them you deviant homo. +Very lickable tummy. +--- 57881312 +>>57879913 (OP) +It can't have been that good... They lost lmao +--- 57881313 +>>57879913 (OP) +because they were based AF + +there was actually some US pattern used in Europe that looked really similar, but they stopped using it for fear of friendly fire +--- 57881315 +>>57881301 +Reconsider your lifestyle choices. +--- 57881325 +>>57879913 (OP) +They should have covered their women with it after they lost +--- 57881364 +>>57881191 +Correct. The Allies were used came first, just like they did many things before or better than the germans, despite what wehraboos believe +>>57881313 +See pic related: +>Infantry of the U.S. 2nd Armored Division in Coutances, France, July 1944. The soldiers wear HBT camouflage. +>Due to several friendly fire incidents, the uniforms were withdrawn in late August. Anyone wearing camouflage was considered to be German +--- 57881377 +>>57881191 +Wehraboos often are mislead to assume the developments of nazi germany’s war machine were unique, when really they are a part of trends that other nations were also on track with. The US used night vision in Okinawa, but wehraboos will only talk about muh Vampir. Stamped metal firearms were developed in multiple nations, but wehraboos only talk about muh sturmgewehr. Electronic tank turrets, tilt switch fuses, magnetic anti-tank grenades, shaped charges, etc etc are not unique to nazi Germany. Hell, any time a nation well exceeded the nazis, the wehraboos will cry and make excuses, such as why the Germans failed to develop the atomic bomb or resolve supply line issues. I don’t expect any of them to respond to me because they haven’t been “trained” to respond to such unfamiliar criticism. They repeat the response that they have seen others give, like good little cogs in a machine that was thoroughly crushed almost a century ago. It still makes me laugh that quite a few of them now simp for Russia, the country that raped and pillaged quite a bit of their precious fatherland. +--- 57881380 +>>57881301 +fugg +--- 57881385 +>>57881364 +And of course the USMC were using it since the start. +--- 57881387 +>>57881272 +You can order one from Poland, we are one of the world leaders in manufacturing and distribution of Hitlerism post WWII. +https://partyzant.pl/mundury-umundurowanie-waffen-ss-allgemeine-ss +https://nestof.pl/pl/menu/rekonstrukcja-niemiecka-1933/umundurowanie-ss/bluzy-i-kurtki-312.html +--- 57881396 +>>57881377 +Wehraboos also don't know or don't want to be remembered about all the tech the germans stole from the US before the war. +--- 57881398 +>>57881387 +Woah, thanks dude. +--- 57881422 +>>57881396 +Let alone the ingenious developments that the Germans didn’t steal, like the human hair that we used for bomb sights +--- 57881505 +>>57879913 (OP) +We see a lot of photos from 44 with krauts in camouflage but rarely see brits and americans in proper camo. Why is that? It's not like the technology was not there for them, they had it on their tanks for heavens sake. And they were infinitely richer and better at researching shit like that than the krauts at that point in the war with actual wunderwaffen marvels like the B-29 or the nuclear weapons. +--- 57881515 +>>57881301 +The Weimar republic also lost +--- 57881642 +>>57881505 + +You see a lot of those people because a) the germans had lots of press photographers and soldier-owned cameras, and b) there are a lot more people today interested in them than there are people interested in photos of Allies in camo. It's like asking why there are more pictures around of young hot girls than worn down grannies. +--- 57881648 +>>57881505 +USMC used camo extensively in the pacific, while bongs seem to have generally been very conservative in equipping their regular infantry while stuff like paras used camo more frequently. I think it might just be a question of ease of production vs percieved benefits. They already had uniform production going and changing it for large scale production would have complicated things, and it would be to gain an advantage that was at the time still only theoretical to the brass, while risking lowering recognizability, as brits and their allies would have to educate their troops on what bong camo looked like to prevent them from being mistaken for germans who were better known for wearing camo. +--- 57881723 +>>57881387 +based toaster-fuckers +--- 57881788 +>>57879913 (OP) +Misallocated resources. SS divisions were always incredibly well-equipped, incredibly poorly trained, and incredibly poorly led. + +It's like if you tired to form a combat unit out of guys posting their overpriced kit on Instagram. It's just gonna make for really good looting for the first mildly well-trained unit they come up against. +--- 57881864 +>>57881301 +>watching your twinky great grandson get railed in your jacket by a man twice his size +--- 57882036 +>>57881387 +Wow, those prices are pretty gud +>>57881788 +>SS divisions were always incredibly well-equipped +Only the few favorite ones e.g. LSSAH, Das Reich, Totenkopf; the rest were on par or below comparable Wehrmacht units. Also, the favorite Wehrmacht unit Großdeutschland was even better equipped than the SS divisions +Source is in German from the book Jan Erik Schulte, Bernd Wegner, and Peter Lieb: Die Waffen-SS - Neue Forschungen +--- 57882074 +>>57881301 +c-can you post more i want the see the uniform from a different angle +--- 57882451 +>>57881301 +Looks very good on you. +--- 57882956 +>>57881301 +Very historical cosplay, it perfectly reflects the malnutrition of 1945. Good job. +--- 57882968 +>>57881308 +>>57882451 +>>57882074 +Ty. Unfortunately I don't have any lewd pics in the uniform. +>>57881315 +Why? +>>57881515 +Good I hate jews and faggots. +--- 57882985 +They weren't. The Marines were. +>reversible +>beautiful +--- 57883038 +>>57882985 +Cool, i wish photos like these were more common than the usual SS camouflaged guys with MG-42 +--- 57883039 +>>57879994 +Dennis is a rusky-mutt from the black sea basin, my nigger. +--- 57883838 +>>57881648 +>>57881364 +>>57881313 +This is a myth they didn't discontinue it due to friendly fire. They discontinued it because it faded, didn't blend in with the European environment, and were expensive. Once the uniforms were used up they just issued solid green again. There's no evidence of the camouflage causing friendly fire. +--- 57883849 +>>57882985 +Marine camo was kino +--- 57883854 +Mostly because it was smaller private orders in the SS' own logistics, so there was a lot of experimentation. +--- 57884492 +>>57881272 +>I want an SS uniform for meme costume parties +I would never risk that in this day +--- 57885136 +>>57879913 (OP) +I can clearly see the men depicted in this picture, therefore that camouflage is useless. +--- 57885260 +>>57879913 (OP) +It's great, despite its spotty past +--- 57885294 +>>57881505 +Bong paras used camo +--- 57885297 +>>57881301 +I sincerely wish for you to kill yourself +--- 57885321 +>>57881788 +>SS divisions were always incredibly well-equipped, incredibly poorly trained, and incredibly poorly led. +...are you saying that the SS were the Kadyrovites of WW2? +--- 57885340 +>>57885297 +Why? +>>57885321 +He's just retarded. +--- 57885346 +>>57879918 +Go back to /his/. +--- 57885357 +They gave the Lieber brothers carte blanche to make anything they want. The vast majority of modern camoflauge patterns are directly or indirectly descended from their work + +t. knower +--- 57885369 +>>57883838 +>There's no evidence of the camouflage causing friendly fire. +Where's the evidence that it faded, didn't blend in and it being cost prohibited? +--- 57885375 +>>57881505 +allies specifically didn't use camoflauge on the western front for IFF reasons. Germany heavily used infantry camo and it was decided more lives would be saved by preventing potential friendly fire than any concealment camo would provide + +same reason why Israel doesn't use camo today. + +Pacific theatre was completely different tho, and the allies heavily used camo there +--- 57885406 +>>57879913 (OP) + +Now. If we ignore that other nations were doing at the same time for discussion's sake? The SS could be said to be unique in their approach to field not just one but something like eight concurrent pattern variations. (At the same time that the Heer had two (three?) versions and the Luftwaffe about the same, not even including captured patterns. This was done in an attempt to make patterns for specific war zones and their vegetation, based on prewar studies of the same. Beside a dizzying variety it also meant for smaller production runs spread over more factories. But I want to point out that these garments almost without exception were overgarments and not defined as actual uniform, which meant distribution was on an as-needed if-available pattern. Only a small percentage of the German forces ever wore camo for that reason. +--- 57885440 +>>57885406 +>The SS could be said to be unique in their approach to field not just one but something like eight concurrent pattern variations. + +notably, the SS did not actually differentiate between the patterns when it came to distribution. manufacturers had eight patterns, quartermasters had summer camouflage and winter camouflage and you got what you got. +--- 57886345 +>>57881788 +>incredibly well-equipped +true +>incredibly poorly trained +bullshit +>incredibly poorly led. +bullshit +--- 57886369 +>>57886345 +None of them are true. The SS had a few premier divisions that were well equipped and many divisions that were comparable to wehmacht divisions, and a large amount of third rate divisions. The SS had 38(kinda) divisions by the end of the war. Most of which you've never heard of. +--- 57886430 +>>57879913 (OP) +I'm not a wehrafag but I do like the camo, it seems practical for its environment and it looks fashionable too. Flecktarn looks kinda crap by comparison. Are the only contemporary options for this kind of pattern slavshit? +--- 57886439 +>>57886430 +You can get Crye cut uniforms in German camo made by Roman Kurmaz. Though he is a Slav. He's located in Ukraine. +--- 57886450 +>>57886430 +Mine +--- 57886457 +>>57886450 +I got the same dot 44 from Roman. Nice. +--- 57886481 +>>57886450 +Nice, how much'd it cost? +--- 57886530 +>>57886481 +I think I got it in 2018 for 150 for pants and 90 for combat shirt. IDK how it works now with the whole Ukraine invasion situation since he lives there and if you want to gamble with someone making an order that will take a pretty long time. You can shoot him a message on instagram @romankurmaz +--- 57887044 +>>57883038 +Seems pretty common to me, Anon. You just get a lot of preteens obsessed with SS shit (weebs, furries, school shooters) that post more often than older folks (Pacific Campaign connoisseurs) +--- 57887238 +>>57885321 +Yes. +--- 57887356 +>>57887044 +Wow you retards are autistic. People like the SS because they're both different and just plain looked better. They make what few camouflage patterns the Allies fielded look like ass. +--- 57887382 +>>57886430 +--- 57887391 +>>57886369 +All of the core SS and even the European volunteer divisions kicked ass, and had been around for a long time. LSSAH, Das Reich, Totenkopf, Wiking, Nordland, Charlemagne, etc. all 100% lived up to the "elite" stereotype. + +The ones that sucked were the hastily raised and/or eastern volunteer divisions scrounged together in the last couple years of the war, as everything was going to shit. +--- 57887418 +>>57887356 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u28C3dF3Kc [Embed] +Sure sure buddy. They like them because they're different. That's the reason. +Have some fucking balls and admit the reason why you like them, don't be an obfuscating pussy. Just admit it. +--- 57887471 +>>57886450 +But anon, you don’t even have the best part of the uniform. + +Also oak > pea dot +--- 57887494 +>>57887391 +high school teacher was a WW2 vet. landed in Normandy and fought all the way to the Elbe. + +Said they preferred fighting the SS because they knew they'd never surrender, so they'd just call in rocket artillery and finish them off with flamethrowers. Said they died like pigs and he had no regrets about his service after liberating a concentration camp + +miss ya Capt. Simpson. really need more men like him these days +--- 57887538 +>>57885357 +>Lizard camo descends from British Denison +>Brushstroke descends from Denison +>Tigerstripe from Lizard +>DPM from Denison +>Digital patterns first were Dual-tex in the 70s. +>Duck hunter originates from American duck-hunting camo +You can claim Flecktarn obviously, and god help you if you ty and go "oh they were tiny flecks therefore it's what digital camo comes from", and raindrop pattern. But unless you really fucking stretch logic and suggest Leaf camo somehow descends from Leibermuster and thus ERDL/woodland has its origins there, Denison is far and beyond the champion as the dominant camo patterns worldwide until recently are either DPM, Lizard, Woodland, Desert-based-on-Woodland or digital. Changing now with Multicam and all that. + +We can credit the Germans for things that they did originate (GPMG for one), but god damn you chucklefucks are tiresome for how you think everything in existence originated from das reich. Fuckin hotep tier wigger shit. +--- 57887547 +>>57887418 +I'm not the one who said "Only Le preteens and furries think anything SS is cool! Only le badass old people think american shit is cool! Based pacific shithole enjoyers!" + +You're just another retard on here trying to bait people by being contrarian. The SS looked amazing and had the best camouflage patterns of anyone form WWII. Denying this fact isn't impressing anyone except other retarded contrarians. +--- 57887583 +>>57879913 (OP) +It wasn't +--- 57887610 +>>57887494 +Virtually zero WW2 vets regretted fighting the deuchistanis they were like Isis but European +>Suicide planes +--- 57887615 +>>57887494 +>high school teacher was a WW2 vet. landed in Normandy +Case in point, he fought against a bunch of literal children from divisions like the 9th and 12th SS Panzer lol, when he wasn't fighting the washed up foreign conscript units that were assigned to the Atlantic Wall. + +Go back thanks. We're eternally grateful here that there aren't 6 gorillion more that we'd have to be dealing today. +--- 57887648 +>>57887538 +I've read US reports on German camo dated from right after the war in 1945. They don't explicitly say it, but ERDL is clearly descended from Leibermuster, which by extension means M81, multicam, all the derivatives, including all the CADPAT variants (and copycats like MM14, Chinese digital, EMR) are descended from Leibermuster + +Again, we are talking about the most commonly used patterns. not going to argue about tigerstripe or lizard +--- 57887659 +>>57887648 +also, I'm not a wehraboo, I'm just a camo autistic. I see a likewise spirit in the camofleur Leiber brothers, to whom the art of camoflauge owes a great deal +--- 57887661 +>>57887583 +Explain to me why we don't use zigzag on people and land vehicles +--- 57887691 +>>57887661 +The world's not ready it's too vogue +--- 57887697 +>>57887661 +dazzle camo doesn't make sense nowadays with the widespread proliferation of battlefield sensors. + +The original use case of dazzle was to confuse gunners back when weapons were manually aimed by sight. ATGMs aren't fooled by them so it's just a waste of time. + +Swedish M90 is literally just dazzle camo for infantry. I don't know why it never caught on with other militaries. It's a shame since it's such an effective pattern +--- 57887707 +>>57887661 +Use one brain cell anon, and you may figure out you might want to use actual camouflage on a vehicle on the ground, and why you might not even bother trying to camouflage a 10,000 ton metal box on the open ocean. +--- 57887728 +>>57887697 +the French have recently been experimenting with it again +--- 57887772 +>>57887697 +>Swedish M90 is literally just dazzle camo for infantry. +It literally is not though. It's an attempt at an urban camouflage, and a decent one too. +Dazzle-pattern "camouflage" isn't even trying to camouflage ships. + +Dazzle just attempts to disrupt the silhouette of the vessel, and make it difficult for enemy planes and vessels to ID it, determine what systems are where, and what the vessel's heading is, ideally making them miss the ship with their gunnery, torpedoes, bombs, etc. +Dazzle is just to try and confuse people since you can't hide colossal tin cans on the open ocean. M90 is actual camouflage. +--- 57887809 +>>57887772 +what do you think disruptive camo is for?dumbass +--- 57887824 +>>57887772 +>The idea of dazzle is just to confuse you +Heh that's the definition of camouflage dummy +--- 57887827 +>>57886430 +I would like to get splinter camo in a modern cut +--- 57887855 +>greatest battleship ever made +>greatest tank designs of the period +>greatest small arms designs of the period +>invented jets +>invented icbms +>invented guided rockets +>invented night vision +Its crazy and makes sense they were only defeated by spamming amerigolems and vatnigs +--- 57887899 +I wouldn't say no to a nice Waffen SS camouflage jacket for fashion-not sure if anyone would recognise it as being an SS jacket though +--- 57887904 +>>57887809 +>>57887824 +>Hurr durr its stil camuhflage even if it dusnt camuhflage + +cam·ou·flage +noun +the disguising of military personnel, equipment, and installations by painting or covering them to make them blend in with their surroundings. +--- 57887919 +>>57887899 +No one notices my SS Oak-B pattern reversible parka whenever I take it hunting. It's an awesome camo too, and the pure-white snow reversible side is sex. +--- 57887925 +>>57886345 +I think its fairly obvious they had political preferment and motivation on their side, but training and leadership were generally poor. + +There is a reason that throughout the war even in Germany the Wehrmacht was considered far more prestigious and indeed several senior SS men had Wehrmacht uniforms they liked to LARP around in. Not how edgy teens today would like to remember things but there we are. +--- 57887950 +>>57887855 +I start to blame britcucks more. Fucking faggots could not take it that germany is the better rule of europe but karmas a bitch and they get everything back now. +--- 57887999 +>>57887648 +If you're not bullshitting about the actual authoritative reports then yeah you can claim ERDL in that case and you'd be right about the modern supremacy of ERDL derived stuff. Lizard (and DPM) had been the big dicks around the world until probably the 90s when you really saw woodland taking over. Maybe the 80s. + +>>57887925 +People just always glomp onto praetorian pageantry. I mean christ they think the Praetorians were some elite super hardcore formation of Rome when they were some of the jobbiest jobs that ever jobbed. +--- 57888001 +>>57887855 +I mean, Germany and two allies took on literally every other world power power at once in the largest global conflicts and almost fucking won, not once either, but twice. + + +That says all it needs to. Anyone saying they weren't badasses is just redditoid cope. +--- 57888020 +>>57887904 +>Disruptive coloration (also known as disruptive camouflage or disruptive patterning) is a form of camouflage that works by breaking up the outlines of an animal, soldier or military vehicle with a strongly contrasting pattern + +>It appears paradoxical as a way of not being seen, since disruption of outlines depends on high contrast, so the patches of colour are themselves conspicuous. + +>Moving objects with disruptive camouflage patterns remain harder to identify than uncamouflaged objects, especially if other similar objects are nearby, even though they are detected, so motion does not completely 'break' camouflage. + +>Most forms of camouflage are made ineffective by movement: a deer or grasshopper may be highly cryptic when motionless, but instantly seen when it moves. But one method, motion dazzle, requires rapidly moving bold patterns of contrasting stripes.[122] Motion dazzle may degrade predators' ability to estimate the prey's speed and direction accurately, giving the prey an improved chance of escape.[123] Motion dazzle distorts speed perception and is most effective at high speeds; stripes can also distort perception of size (and so, perceived range to the target). + +TLDR military camo doesn't use the same techniques and principles as hunting camo. The point isn't to perfectly blend in, it's to disrupt visual recognition +--- 57888031 +>>57887999 +I misspoke earlier. I had meant that the majority of most commonly used patterns were descended from them, not that most patterns were, which is a big difference +--- 57888045 +>>57888001 +They were cringe +--- 57888056 +>>57888045 +Go back tourist +--- 57888072 +>>57888001 +Germany declares war on....THE WORLD once again +--- 57888088 +>>57888056 +They were cringe LARPers +--- 57888096 +>>57888072 +the only countries Germany declared war on were the US and Soviet Union tho +--- 57888136 +>>57888096 +Big mistake +--- 57888137 +>>57888088 +Why are you still here? r/FuckTheAltRight beckons. +--- 57888145 +>>57888136 +No one said anything mistakes. You just said something that was retarded and wrong. +--- 57888169 +>>57888137 +>Lost their entire country forever in 6 years +Woah enjoy being a us airbase I guess +--- 57888196 +For perspective the Napoleonic wars lasted 23 years WW2 wasn't a big deal but it did result in Germany being a house nigger for eternity. +--- 57888237 +>>57888196 +>WW2 wasn't a big deal +--- 57888251 +>>57888169 +Careful, that'll get you banned for hate speech over where you normally lurk. +--- 57888286 +>>57888237 +The neutron was discovered in 1932 so WW2 was basically just a countdown to Germany being nuked. +--- 57888344 +>>57879913 (OP) +>>57887855 +>>57888001 +--- 57888355 +>>57888196 +>rules europe +>house nigger +Pick one. +--- 57888394 +>>57888344 +smells like BITCH in here +--- 57888469 +>>57888355 +Occupied continuously congested territory for a short amount of time* +--- 57888483 +>>57888344 +The bottom was the top and the top was the bottom +But somehow this was everybody else's fault +--- 57888516 +>>57888394 +>In 5 years you will never recognize Germany again +Kek +--- 57888550 +>>57888394 +He said that in 1933. By 1938 Germany had been transformed from a Communist infested shithole in political chaos, into a literal paradise and one of the most powerful nations in the world. +You cannot even outwit him 80 years after he died, kek. +--- 57888598 +>>57888550 +Then fast forward to 1945 and Germany has child soldiers suicide planes and hitlers IK OOK DOD +--- 57888633 +He's ik ook dod dude + +I mean he's ik ook freaking dod dude +--- 57888675 +>>57888598 +I'm not sure what that has to do with 1938. You tried to use some witty out of context quote you didn't even understand, and completely embarrassed yourself lol. +Keep coping I guess. +--- 57888715 +>>57888675 +Okay I guess.. I guess I'll just keep coping then I guess +--- 57888742 +>>57879918 +>>57879928 +>the camo is bad because it didnt win the war by itself +>everything else is bad too, btw +Get out of this fucking board +--- 57888784 +>>57888355 +I'm picking house nigger +--- 57888794 +>>57888715 +>I guess I'll just keep coping then I guess +We can tell by the way you keep trying to bring up shit unrelated to what we were talking about lol. +--- 57888796 +>>57879918 +Retard historylet militarylet +--- 57888805 +>>57888001 +This +Ibn4 seething americucks and vatnigs +--- 57888814 +>>57888742 +This board has become Reddit 2.0, and has been terminally infected by nogun lefties unfortunately. +--- 57888843 +>>57888794 +>Unrelated +You are talking about a period of about 18 months it's so irrelevant it's not even worth mentioning, you're clearly just dumb +--- 57888915 +>>57888843 +>Try and use a Hitler quote as a "gotcha" +>Point out quote literally only pertains to the years 1933-38 +>NOOOoooOOO!!! Wut about muh 1945! Child soldiers!! Hecking owned!!! + +Cope & Seethe™ harder kid. +--- 57888936 +>>57887824 +>>57887809 +>>57887772 +>>57887728 +>>57887697 +Dazzle camo works against a manual optical rangefinder where the operator overlays two telescope images. The dazzle looks confusing when the two images are superimposed and it isn't obvious how to line it up. Hence the double bow, false bow waves and other patterns that give false overlaps. +--- 57888952 +>>57888915 +>Germany rules Europe +France +>Germany ruled Europe in WW2 +No they didn't +>Germany could have beaten everybody in WW2 +No they couldn't +You are embarrassing yourself... +--- 57888965 +>>57888550 +just take the L and move on. this is genuinely embarrassing +--- 57888995 +I mean the Japanese suicide bombing a non allied harbor really did cement the entire national socialist LARPers as totally insane faggots that needed to die +--- 57889001 +>>57888936 +>manual optical rangefinder where the operator overlays two telescope images +We call this a coincidence rangefinder, anon. +And not really. If this was actually effective, we would've seen a lot of navies using it a lot more, since that's how almost all artillery, naval or no, was ranged from around the year 1900 until the advent of radar fire control. +--- 57889016 +>>57888952 +>List of things I never said. +You are now having to resort to inventing an alternate reality so you can "embarrass" me. Sad. +--- 57889027 +>>57889016 +All of those things have been said ITT but please embarrass yourself even more +--- 57889045 +>>57889027 +>All of those things have been said ITT +Not by me. Like I said: You are now having to resort to inventing an alternate reality so you can "embarrass" me. Sad. +--- 57889068 +>>57889045 +Fuck you and fuck Hitler how about them apples +--- 57889130 +>>57879918 +>>57879928 +>>57881191 +>>57881364 +>>57881385 +>>57881788 +>>57887044 +>>57887418 +>>57888045 +>>57888394 +>>57888598 +>>57888965 +>>57888715 +>>57888843 +>>57888952 +>>57889027 +>>57889068 +All this for pointing that the Waffen-SS had good camo. Please go back. +--- 57889204 +>>57889130 +I'm sure all the civilians they massacred in Italy and Belgiume loved it +--- 57889244 +>>57879913 (OP) +They removed poor performers in most departments +--- 57889448 +>>57889204 +And then you get homunculi like these that prattle on endlessly about "muh war crimes". +--- 57889611 +>>57885321 +>...are you saying that the SS were the Kadyrovites of WW2? +There were even chechen SS! +--- 57889648 +>>57889448 +They made people group together in fields and shot them with machine guns +--- 57889654 +>>57888936 +Not necessarily "works". It made the ships speed and heading slightly more annoying to gauge but like >>57889001 +said, it didn't really help much so why bother painting an entire ship in dazzle just to get sighted in all the same? The dazzle camo came and went fast but the coincidence rangefinder stuck around into the 70's and 80's. +--- 57889681 +>>57889654 +Actually I looked it up and I was wrong, the US Navy was using coincidence rangefinders to shell Iraqis from the Iowa in '91. +--- 57889776 +Realistically the SS were pussies that murdered civilians and lost most most of the time when they encountered real men on the battlefield. +--- 57889826 +>>57887547 +Two different posters. Also, you are a preteen. +--- 57889846 +>>57889776 +Which explains why Heer officers were constantly requesting the redeployment of these SS units to their sectors. + +>>57889826 +Go back tourist. +--- 57889854 +>>57889130 +I've been here longer than you. You go back. I was rustling jimmies while you were playing with one of those iPad in a child proof case. +--- 57889878 +>>57889846 +Return to 2009 /k/. God I wish. Kek +--- 57889903 +>>57889846 +To clear the village they were in of Innocent civilians most likely +--- 57889910 +>>57888001 +>they almost won +(They didn't) +--- 57889925 +The war in the Ukrainian has made this place Reddit 2.0 god forbid you talk about any military equipment on a weapons board +--- 57889942 +>>57889925 +Just weird how you admire people that shot old women +--- 57889969 +>>57889204 +>>57889648 +based +--- 57889973 +>>57889942 +We are talking about camo you faggot. I can like my toakarev handgun and disagree the commissars that killed people with them. +--- 57889981 +>>57889942 +he's not talking about the spanish commies who lost the only war they ever fought despite receiving infinite foreign support... so i'm not sure what you mean +--- 57889982 +>>57889925 +I'm sorry someone disagreed with your opinion on a camo pattern. Maybe have a little cry into a pillow. +--- 57889998 +>>57889982 +But there has been 0 discussion on camo just name calling and whining +--- 57890047 +>>57889998 +>waaa people name call on 4channel! +There as been plenty of discussion, you're just a little pussy that can't take even a small amount of banter, and can't hang with the boys. Have a little cry, and grab me a beer on the way back. +--- 57890113 +>>57889982 +>>57890047 +How to be an insufferable faggot 101. +--- 57890139 +>>57882985 +>>57881385 +Where can I buy duck camo trousers? +--- 57890184 +>>57888020 +It's pure soul +--- 57890349 +>>57890139 +Bronson mfg has good ones. +--- 57891548 +>>57887648 +>>57887659 +How would that make any of the patterns other than ERDL and M81 related to leibermuster? +--- 57891591 +>>57891548 +NTA but camo kinda works like a family tree. +--- 57891604 +>>57891591 +I know. But multicam isn't related. Cadpat and it's derivatives aren't either. MM14 and EMR are even less related. diff --git a/k/57879932.txt b/k/57879932.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..eb227cab6f7054cdb292d5443c3464ba76195da7 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57879932.txt @@ -0,0 +1,699 @@ +----- +--- 57879932 +I'm pretty sure the Russians at Bakhmut and Vuhledar could have used 10,000 cruise missiles but I guess making sure some anons in Kiev couldn't play Tarkov for 12 hours was more important. +--- 57879950 +That was merely a taste of what's to come! As we speak, quantum High-Hypersonic phase shift missiles will rain down on the banderite illegal regime. With our eyebrows raised, you will know. The bear does not take kindly to the clucking of chickens.... +--- 57879952 +>*looks into an empty cruise missile storage and squeals nervously* +--- 57879953 +Yeah I don't get it. Sure the missiles can't hit the broad side of a barn, but why not use them to carpet bomb enemy strongholds? Instead they were spent on not hitting kindergardens and hospitals... +--- 57880029 +>>57879953 +Assuming they wanted to hit civilian structures is retarded. They willingly accepted it, but there's a lot of factors in play; +- shitty technology +- wrong intel +- ukrainians actually hiding in civilian infrastructure +- counter intelligence like placing gps reference devices at wrong places +- shot down rockets crashing down somewhere +You can't simultaneously assume that russia is 100% retarded/corrupt/incompetent while also managing to precisely hit every fucking kindergarden they for some reason wanted to bomb. +--- 57880137 +>>57880029 +They missed most of the kindergartens they wanted to bomb +--- 57880148 +>>57880029 +>You can't simultaneously assume that russia is 100% retarded/corrupt/incompetent +--- 57880176 +>>57879952 +STOP using pigs to depict Russians. Pigs are cool dudes and don't deserve to be dragged into your dumb human war shit. They're friendly, loyal and pretty much mind their own business. There's literally no better friend to man than the humble porker. If you ;eave them alone all we'll do is snuffle about for truffles or something and bring them to you. They're good guys. +--- 57880187 +>>57880029 +You need to broaden your conception of 'they wanted'. You have the more western style of value driven meritocracy where, at least in principle, people driven towards a common goal prove their place in the hierarchy by the value they provide in pursuing that goal. + +Youre dealing with russia, stuck in eastern commie bloc mode model of society. The common goal is whatever the proverbial head monke wants, and the value you add to society is only counted insofar as the chimp above you in the hierarchy is able to use the outcome to protect himself from the wrath of the monke above him. It even works some of the time, but the risk of failure present in any endevour leaves the poor underlings fearing for their lives. Better to just fake it and live the great collective lie, as you know that the men above and below you can also saved themselves using the lie and will only het themselves ousted by speaking up and taking responsibility for something. + +They weren't 'wanting' to hit civilian infrastructure, theyd rather hit Ukie troops of course. That was just the easiest and best target to ensure enough of a practical result to spare the arses of the men involved from the retribution from higher up the chain. +--- 57880194 +>>57880148 +>...while also assuming they manage to do do what they planned to do +--- 57880239 +>>57880176 +>t. pigger +--- 57880244 +>>57880187 +I could see that happening, but shouldn't the house of cards eventually collapse? Particularly putin in combination with his secret service should have a reasonably qualified and decoupled means to double check military feedback. + +It's not clear to me how something like this could play out undetected. +--- 57880346 +>>57879932 (OP) +Save for the missile spam, this fatass was actually a pretty decent general, the best Russia had so far during this war. His plan was to hunker down, recuperate strength and start preparing the defenses for a Ukrainian counter-offensive, and he also conducted the Kherson retreat very well. His reign was short-lived because Putin can't into war and he thought that Gerasimov's retarded offensives were the way to go because attacking is the only thing you can do in war, anything else is for pussies +--- 57880373 +>>57880176 +>>57880239 + +lazerpig???? + +>dat captcha +--- 57880391 +>>57880244 +Very few people in Russia have a realistic incentive to expose the sham. Basically zero who hold actual power. It's easier to just pretend you don't notice it, even if you do (which most don't because they aren't looking) +--- 57880422 +>>57880029 +>ukrainians actually hiding in civilian infrastructure + +If a nigger raids my house, grabs my washing machine and gets shot, does that mean I am hiding in civilian i frastructure? +--- 57880438 +How much do those missiles cost per unit? +--- 57880456 +>>57880422 +when a nigger raids your house because there's another nigger with an ak in there and they start shooting all your stuff trying to kill the eachother, the proper reaction should be to kneel and blow the second nigger, yes, because he's your homie, cracker. +imagine what would happen if your homie nigger just stayed inna woods. the first nigger would have to go inna woods too and would completely miss your house! +--- 57880466 +>>57880346 +>because attacking is the only thing you can do in war +Putin had ordered the capture of Donbass for certain points in time. That's the minimum he wanted. If he HAD all of Donbass in his control, Putin would have 100% been happy to have it turn defensive. But since he doesn't, he has to try and take it. +--- 57880488 +>>57879932 (OP) +hey I remember General Diabetes. Has he fallen out of a window yet? I bet that'll leave a crater! +--- 57880499 +Remember when they were saying europe was gonna freeze this winter? lmfao +--- 57880508 +so this is the power of krokodil and bathtub vodka... +--- 57880510 +>>57880499 +And it turned out to be an exceptionality cold winter for Russia +--- 57880550 +>>57880029 +How do you explain this then? What reason did they have for shooting at this? And then go and surround it with scaffolding and tarp so that the world can't see their retardation. +--- 57880562 +>>57880499 +Don't worry, winter starts in about 6 months, anon. +--- 57880570 +>>57880499 +I can't imagine the Muscovite psyche when God is literally on your enemy's side. +--- 57880606 +>>57880570 +I swear near the start of this war there was some talk about how some woman (a saint or something) cursed Russia when she died. +--- 57880613 +>>57880606 +I'm sure there are plenty of people that have cursed them after the shit they pulled as the USSR. +--- 57880630 +>>57880613 +>USSR + +If there is a God he sure as fuck hates these fuckers +--- 57880637 +>>57880630 +Yeah and the worst part is dumbass Russians think they are the good guys of WW2. It's their identity and national fairytale, that's why they have those dumbass parades every year except this one since they ran out of tanks lmfao +--- 57880675 +>>57880637 +>every year except this one +They have parades in main cities. They're not in some. Moscow is still going to do a parade. +--- 57880680 +>>57880675 +Gotta keep the farce going then I guess. Hopefully some Ukie blows some shit up there. +--- 57880743 +>>57879932 (OP) +>Ukraine is exporting electricity again +I doubt it and it's really easy to check than on EU gridmap website. I'm not gonna waste my time with it because every time this was posted Ukraine was gigantic net importer. Why would they even bother generating electricity when they can just get it for free from EU? +--- 57880784 +>>57880176 +They're more akin to a wild boar. + +They are always hungry for land because the land they have has been destroyed by their own hand. +They come and take more land destroying it in their wake, which leads them to want more land. + +The only incongruency with this is their birth rates are low, and after losing all these young men their country will never recover. +I thought the US would collapse before Russia did again, but I think Russia will beat them in that regard. +--- 57880793 +>>57880675 +>Moscow is still going to do a parade. +I can't wait +--- 57880794 +>>57880784 +>They're more akin to a wild boar. + +One generation out of civilization and they turn back into animals? +--- 57880804 +>>57880743 +>every time this was posted Ukraine was gigantic net importer +Do post the proofs +>why bother +because EU doesn't have enough to supply both civilians and industry+we have a fuckton of nuclear power plants that russia will not strike no matter what unless they are already determined to use nukes +--- 57880806 +>>57880784 +>I thought the US would collapse before Russia did again +ironically enough, thats what Russian propagandists also wanted you to think +--- 57880828 +>>57880804 +>Do post the proofs +Check it yourself, I don't feel like doing work for free. +https://transparency.entsoe.eu/ +--- 57880833 +>>57879932 (OP) +Oh fuck, now i remember general winter, ooooohhhh! +--- 57880840 +At the rate Russia is advancing, there won't BE a Russian military soon enough, lol. +--- 57880859 +>>57880804 +https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/87735/ +>inb4 source: Moscow +https://gmk.center/en/news/ukraine-can-increase-electricity-imports-from-europe-without-daily-restrictions/ +https://www.entsoe.eu/news/2023/02/16/further-increase-in-the-trade-capacity-with-the-ukraine-moldova-power-system/ +--- 57880862 +>>57880029 + +Their TV talking heads openly admitted that goal of campaign was to inflict as much suffering on civilians to distort the government and cause the refugee crysis in EU to go even deeper. They are also openly and literally upset that it didnt work out. + +"I dont want to upset you, friends but Kiev has electricity and water right now, street lights are back on" (c) Skabeeva. +--- 57880891 +>>57880550 +>if you write kids infront of a building you can’t hit it during a war because think of the hecking children +Never in history have people lied +--- 57880893 +>>57880862 +>penly admitted that goal of campaign was to inflict as much suffering on civilians +It worked in Serbia. +In Ukraine it's different since US will just print money for wages and pensions and send to Zelensky and they can leech electricity and goods from EU, idk for how long tho. +--- 57880911 +>>57880893 +Decades, easily +--- 57880923 +>>57880911 +>Decades, easily +It's one wrong election results in US away... +--- 57880932 +>>57880891 +>in the middle of a big city lets just bomb it anyway without even checking they cld be lying who even knows lmao +--- 57880937 +>>57880893 +>>penly admitted that goal of campaign was to inflict as much suffering on civilians +>It worked in Serbia. +That bullshit lie again, shill? +They didn't destroyed the power plants in Serbia, they just short circuited the power lines by dropping conductive wires onto them. Why do vatniks always lie? + +What was the plan? Thought you were shilling and you slip an old lie in hoping no one would notice or tell? +--- 57880941 +>>57880923 +> The MIC shills will cut military spending if they win. Because +--- 57880949 +>>57880937 +What's the difference? Semantics? US bombed Iraqi power grid, bombed Serbian grid. The only reason it didn't bomb Afghanistani is that parts of the country that had electricity were the ones under US control while countryside was under Taliban. +--- 57880961 +>>57880828 +Doesn't work for me. 'Unknown exception'. +--- 57880966 +>>57880176 +Based +--- 57880976 +>>57880859 +>February +>Today is April 17th +--- 57880986 +>>57880949 +Oh no, our vatnik serb friend attempts another pathetic "it's all the same if you actually don't look at it" apporach, it's not very effective. + +There is a big difference if you try to destroy power plants with cruise missiles and if you drop conductive wires onto the power lines to short them. One can have negative effects for years and the other can be removed in a few days. + +Go on, continue. Show everyone what a little disingenuous little shill you are. +--- 57880999 +>>57880986 +There is none, because the intention was the same. I could understand your sentiment that maybe US was a little better than average (was of the same opinion) before Snowden leaks, but not in 20+23. +--- 57881013 +>>57880244 +The FSB does it too. They were supposed to have laid the pro Russian groundwork in Ukraine for the invasion, but like all the people pretending to maintain Russian hardware, they never expected that it would actually be used, so they just pretended to do their job and succeed at it. That's why Russia tried the blyatskrieg SMO, because they really did think that 2-4 weeks was a realistic estimate. Nobody has been interested in telling Putin about the absolute state of basically everything before the war started, and now that it ongoing, there's no way back, because the consequenced just get more and more severe. At the end of it all sits Putin, who whether fully understanding how bad things are going or not, has to pretend that it's cool to the Russian people, in the same way everyone below him have pretended. +--- 57881021 +>>57880976 +What changed, one statement by energy minister? If that's all you have, +>may I see it? +I don't even doubt that it's theoretically possible, as Ukraine's internal consumption has a seasonal variation because a significant percentage of household heating is electric. +But even that wouldn't mean that all the infrastructure was restored. +--- 57881022 +The Manlet of Muscovy's new elite forces en route to Bakhmut + +Two more weeks just you wait, the secret Russian army is here +--- 57881023 +>>57880923 +Germany alone can foot the bill. Watch germany pay for polands shopping that turns into donations for ukraine. +>>57880932 +>yes, I know we’re at war but what if somebody gets hurt? +Your parents really coddled you too much +--- 57881036 +>>57881021 +Holes in the electric grid could possibly also be an explanation for export. If for instance one part of the grid simply can't reach the other and thus produces an excess, they could just export that. +--- 57881045 +>>57880176 +pink hands typed this post +--- 57881047 +>>57880986 +>drop conductive wires +Are you for real kid? +--- 57881055 +>>57880999 +>buzzwords help me! you got to save me +There is a difference between interrupting the power supply by attempting to bomb the power plants directly and destroy them for years to come and to short circuit power lines with special bombs that drop conductive wires, that can be removed later. + +This is the best vatniks can come up with? Lying, playing dumb to the most obvious differences and trying to drag in other side topics with cheap buzzwords? Fucking pathetic. + +Please degrade yourself even further by continuing this way, vatnik shill. +--- 57881068 +>>57881047 +>uhm here is picture +>no explanation or anything +>just take picture and i win +>okay? +no, you doublenigger +--- 57881077 +>>57881068 +buzz off +--- 57881082 +>>57881047 +Are you? +>Russian politicians, lawmakers, and other commentators on Russian state media widely applauded the prospect of Ukrainian civilians being left without heat and water in winter. One member of parliament stated that ordinary people should “rot and freeze”, another said the strikes were necessary to destroy the Ukrainian state’s capacity to survive. +Source: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/12/06/ukraine-russian-attacks-energy-grid-threaten-civilians +--- 57881097 +>>57881077 +sorry, did i offend you by telling everyone what kind of bullshit you are trying? no paycheck for you today +--- 57881101 +>>57881055 +>cum gurgling noises +Are you okay, brother? Read these someday. Of course you won't, because your fake outrage ends with your perceived victory in an internet argument. +https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/220-bombing-to-bring-peace +https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt6wp7nf +--- 57881106 +>>57880923 +You have no idea how much this is helping the US military. All that "Aid" is just throwing old gear to the Ukrainians and the money goes to the military for a New replacement. + +It kills the wests enemies with no harm to the US costing them pretty much nothing. + +>70bil in aid vs GDP of 23.2Trill is 0.00301% + +That is what has Russia grinding away what was left of it army and respect as a nation. A fucking Rounding Error! +--- 57881114 +>>57881082 +Well that's the point, to make general population suffer and start "regime change". +It worked in Serbia quite nicely, Ukraine is different story because of billions pumped into it every month. +If left alone without external help like Serbia Kiev govt would collapse in a month. +pic related, final act of HATO bombing of Serbia. Ruskies hope for the same thing. +--- 57881126 +>>57881023 +>vatnik can't grasp the concept of non-combatants +man you'd fit right in along with the other retarded mobiks +--- 57881127 +nato purpusfolly bombed serbia too, how is this different +--- 57881133 +>>57881106 +>how much this is helping +It's not, there's pretty nasty inflation in US which happens because Biden is printing and spending more than he is earning, big chunk of that sending to Ukraine as strategic "investment". +Did you know pensions and wages of state employees in Ukraine are entirely paid by US tax payers. Kinda crazy when you think about it. +--- 57881135 +>>57880194 +they failed at everything they've tried to do so far, fucking retarded nigger +--- 57881142 +>>57881133 +Inflation is a global problem +--- 57881146 +Remember the morning coffee nonsense? That was cringe. +--- 57881148 +>>57880891 +>UKRAINIANS LIED, PEOPLE DIDN"T TAKE SHELTER IN IT, IT WAS AMMO DEPO +>we've captured it? Quick, destroy what remains of the building +pro-Russians should be tried in court of law +--- 57881154 +>>57881114 +No, it's not the same. Russia is literally getting called out for wasting resources on civilian targets to terrorize the population in Ukraine, while the other example was part of a tightly coordinated military operation with interlocking tactical strikes that actually were working together. + +You are on /k/ here, not some random board, if you can't tell the difference, you are doing this either to hide something or stupid. +--- 57881158 +>>57881021 +>What changed +Nuclear power plants. Usually 0-2 reactors were used because they are expensive, and basically not needed, Ukraine can supply 1.5 Ukraines just on fossil generation. Oh, and russians don't dare to strike them +Significant percentage is electric, but it's negligible compared to centralised. However, since electricity was/is mostly generated on TЭЦ, heating+electricity plants, when heating is on, a lot of energy goes to hearing, and since boilers aren't infinitely powerful, much less steam is being generated to spin the turbines +--- 57881184 +>>57881101 +>throws chaffs in form of links +>cant argue for shit + +And why all this? Because vatniks are niggers and cant tell the difference between someone attacking the power grid to terrorizing the population with little to no military use, even openly admitting they want to terrorize the population, and an actual military operation where taking out a power grid actually serves a direct military goal and it's part of military actions actually going on in this area. +--- 57881188 +>>57881154 +>tightly coordinated military operation with interlocking tactical strikes +like man, how can you write something like that down and not cringe, unless it's some kind of a weird bait. +pic unrelated. +--- 57881206 +>>57881188 +you have to stop coping, Peskov already admitted that strikes are intended to make Ukrainian civilians suffer +--- 57881218 +>>57881206 +>coping +I'm from Croatia, I don't care. +>Peskov +Never heard of him/it. +--- 57881221 +>>57881188 +Unrelated my ass. russia totally expected 2 simultaneous outcomes +1) Ukrainians to rebel against the government bc no electricity and heating +2) Cripple AFU(russians forgot that armies don't run on civilian power plants, they run on diesel) +--- 57881238 +>>57881188 +>like man, how can you write something like that down and not cringe, unless it's some kind of a weird bait. +ad hominem +>pic unrelated. +The picture is actually very related to the thread and shows how different the attacks are from both sides are. Russia wants to destroy the Ukraine's infrastructure they can't capture anymore and want to terrorize the population for no or low military gain and are open about it. +--- 57881263 +>>57881238 +>Russia wants to destroy the Ukraine's infrastructure +Just a little correction, they want to destroy Kiev govt infrastructure, they don't have anything against Ukraine itself. Ukraine is like their little brother that has drug addiction problem at the moment. +--- 57881273 +>>57880794 +Bold of you to assume Russia ever achieved civilisation. +--- 57881282 +>>57881218 +>Never heard of him/it. +You need to leave. +--- 57881287 +>>57881263 +Ah I guess that explains the beheadings, I do that to my brother all the time. +--- 57881289 +>>57881263 +Is this the reason why they do it all over Ukraine, my little trolling friend? +--- 57881298 +>>57881218 +>>Peskov +>Never heard of him/it. +Explains so much. Also how fucking new are you? +--- 57881299 +>>57881287 +>beheadings +Those where not Ukrainians, that's why they got beheaded in the first place - not that I support such practices just want to clarify. +--- 57881310 +>>57881289 +Last I checked Kiev govt is actually not the govt of whole Ukraine, like especially the part that didn't want to live with them anymore. +--- 57881317 +>>57881299 +Cope. +--- 57881321 +>>57881287 +And the uniformally organized torture chambers by the russians Ukraine found in the recaptured territories, or the how they cut off genitals with box cutters and how they kill their own with sedge hammers on camera. +--- 57881340 +>>57881317 +It's not, I'm just stating facts. +Guy that got beheaded, not only was he not a citizen of Ukraine, he didn't speak a word of Ukrainian/Russian whatever. Who knows where that redditor was actually from. +Two morons that did beheading, they're so fucked, ruskies glowies are after them. +--- 57881343 +>>57881310 +Last time i checked, even promoting your region should leave Russia could get you up to five years in prison in Russia and they made the law a bit before they invaded Crimea. Strange + +Oh and then there was Girkin one of the seperatist leaders who said that nothing would have happened if he didn't gone there and started to stir up shit. Do you know Girkin is a former russian intelligence officer? It's just one of many things that happens. +--- 57881368 +>>57881343 +>Girkin +Never heard of him +I only know of Givi, Motorola and Prigozhin. +--- 57881393 +>>57881368 +Oh yeah, Givi and Motorola got killed by the russians after they stopped being useful and not just wanted their regions to get Anschluss'd by Russia. They ran out of being useful for Russia, Russia killed them. This is what happens when you trust Russia. +--- 57881397 +>>57880176 +>we’ll +Nice try Porkchop, but you’re still going to the abattoir +--- 57881400 +>>57879932 (OP) +Russia never targeted it in the first place. The rolling black outs were government enforced. + +Which looks like justifying taking civilian electricity for the eu companies. +--- 57881437 +>>57881106 +Fun fact: the US is actually making money by handing over these old vehicles because eliminates maintenance, storage and disposal costs while allowing them to refill units with newer (and thus much cheaper to store and maintain) replacements +--- 57881478 +>>57881437 +>while allowing them to refill units with newer +So they basically take money from population and fill pockets of military contractor shareholders with it. +Only problem is that money doesn't really exist so you're taxed twice, once through the tax itself, 2nd time through inflation but what do I know, realistically I'm just butthurt because I'm poor. +--- 57881854 +>>57880244 +>Particularly putin in combination with his secret service should have a reasonably qualified and decoupled means to double check military feedback. + +They do, and the figures those systems produce are also incorrect for the same reason. At every single stage of recording these numbers, from unit commanders to the people presenting their reports to Putin himself, people are heavily incentivised to lie. Accurate figures practically can’t exist because in a highly authoritarian society like Russia telling the truth is dangerous while lying is rewarded, both directly and indirectly. + +You can see an example of the effects this can cause in the early response to the pandemic in China. Officials at every level didn’t want to be seen as responsible for the effects of the virus so every report up the chain of command downplayed the seriousness of the situation. Beijing had absolutely no idea how bad things had gotten until it was too late so instead of being able to contain the virus it spread uncontrollably. + +>Shouldn't the house of cards eventually collapse? + +Yes, and it will given time. It has already happened twice to Russia in the last 40 years - once in 1989 when their outer empire in Eastern Europe collapsed, and again in 1991 when the Soviet Union itself fell apart. The Russian state is like a giant Ponzi scheme, eventually the lies it is built on will be so far disconnected from reality that the entire system will fall apart. Democratic societies have checks and balances which systematically try and prevent this from happening. Authoritarian states like Russia generally don’t or have very heavily decayed ones, so when the system is overstressed by something like a war going badly it’s often enough to collapse the whole thing. +--- 57881871 +>>57880176 +based and /an/pilled +if I had some land I'd have a pig instead dog +--- 57882020 +>>57881148 +>>we've captured it? Quick, destroy what remains of the building +You'd rather they just leave the whole city in ruins forever until the war is finished or something? +--- 57882134 +>>57880806 +You're not wrong, but let's not lie to ourselves. Once Russia is finally converted, it will still take a lot of work to sanitize and mend the scars they were actively causing in every society around them and beyond, and it will take wisdom and introspection and grace to ensure that there's actual healing instead of replicating the Russian mistakes. +--- 57882245 +>>57880966 +I love how he's like +>What a lovely day for taking in the view +>Oh shit, it's a human, better do some pig shit so he doesn't suspect +>Bugger the game is up +>"How do you do, sir, joy of the day to you." +--- 57882261 +>>57880891 +I hate to tell you this, but bombing a location that is actively communicating to you that it is full of civilians on the off chance your enemy is committing perfidy is still a war crime. +--- 57882296 +>>57882261 +only individuals can commit war crimes, when an insect hive does it its a force of nature +--- 57882405 +>>57880029 +>ukrainians actually hiding in civilian infrastructure +The Ukranians aren't Russians or engaging in urban operations in uncontested cities Vatnik. +--- 57882594 +>>57881273 +I think they were going to with Czar Nicholas II, but we know how that went. +--- 57882625 +>>57880806 +That cumshot birthmark guy wasn't entirely incorrect. +Collapse like East Berlin and resulting Soviet Union collapse, not really, but collapse as a society from troons, pedophiles, and communists from the inside? Yes. +--- 57882635 +>>57880176 +Pigs are habitat destroying monsters fit for food and football covers. +--- 57882646 +>>57881114 +The war is truly over, the vatniggers found the piss jugs. +--- 57883380 +>>57880862 +And now you suddenly trust some russian propaganda muppets? Get the fuck out. +They say a lot of shit and all of it needs to be taken with a ton of salt, and while I believe they expect and don't care about civilian casualties, they certainly must have the capacity to optimize their attacks to provide the most effective way forward - in theory. +They're assholes, possibly incestuous aids ridden alcoholic assholes, but they certainly know the basics of warfare and pretending this is not the case is ridiculous. +--- 57883561 +>>57881393 +Say what you will about Russia, but they know better than to trust anyone who'd betray their country for Russia. +--- 57883827 +>>57882625 +no not really +--- 57883906 +>>57880176 +Porcine trotters typed this post. +--- 57883945 +>>57880176 +Shut up, Lazerpig +--- 57884031 +>>57879953 +This is the difference with the USA : +Sure, that tomahawk you just fired at a building to kill a single team of insurgents might be overkill. +But at least it's hitting its target, the target is an enemy combattant and you won't ever run out of missiles anyway. +--- 57884121 +>>57880923 +LMAO. No. Lend-Lease is enshrined into law. And overwhelming majorities in both parties are backing said law. +--- 57884470 +>>57881154 +>the other example was part of a tightly coordinated military operation with interlocking tactical strikes that actually were working together + +One could also just say that they were working, period. +Russians are failing to achieve lasting result while targeting civilians on purpose. +USA succeeds in toppling regimes while trying (and sometimes failing, yes) to not hit civilians. +--- 57884797 +>>57883380 +There is incentive to exaggerate your capabilities- there's no advantage to admitting previous attacks didn't work without reflective analysis. Russians are incompetent drunks, and can't into anything but theft or rape. +--- 57885342 +>>57880176 +--- 57885468 +>>57883561 +They were idiots for thrusting Russia, doesn't make Russia any less an bad actor. +--- 57885588 +>>57885479 +being a contrarian still means that your opinion is formed the exact same way as those leftycucks (in context of the status quo), good job retard, in your spiteful rage you decided to be just as thoughtless and irritating as the people you supposed to dispise. +--- 57885648 +>>57881142 +>Inflation is a global problem +only it's not +--- 57885674 +Attacking Ukraine’s large power grid seemed like a poor use of assets to begin with, but maybe the Russians felt like they needed to show some kind of win instead of this constant slow creep forward over sone ruined town. +--- 57885697 +>>57885648 +>Believing bugmen numbers + +imagine +--- 57885749 +>>57885648 +why is it called globohomo when it's not even global? +--- 57885790 +>>57885648 +Why is Brazil's so high when they ride with Based BRICS? +>>57885749 +Imagine thinking third-worlders matter. +--- 57885884 +>>57885648 +old data, it's even lower now. +not much to it, chinks just don't print money that is yet not earned like Biden does. +--- 57885892 +>>57885648 +yeah china's economy is booming +--- 57885943 +>>57885892 +Meh, not really, only compared to the west. +--- 57885991 +>>57885943 +although we can do without them, they can't do without us +--- 57886078 +>>57880029 +>yes anon there was nazis hiding in the jungle gym +--- 57886181 +>>57886078 +>oh no, not the children +--- 57887316 +>>57885749 +Post countries with drinkable tap water, oh wait you already did +--- 57887344 +>>57881133 +>A big chunk of that +You're responding to a poster who has just clearly elucidated that it's 0.00301% of the US' GDP +You are not on /pol/ we actually read the full thread here. You need to do better or you will be fired from your shill position and probably die bleeding somewhere. +I know you're probably a brown thirdie and nobody, not even your family cares for your life, but you should stop shitting up the board for your own sake at the very least. +--- 57887415 +>>57886181 +You seem pretty well informed about what's happening on reddit. You instantly can find a picture that was posted there, for example. +--- 57887596 +>>57880029 +They're static targets, it doesn't take much to find and hit them. Also you're incorrect, I always assume complete Russian ineptitude and they never disappoint. +--- 57888138 +>>57882594 +they were never going to anon, because they'd still be russian at the end of the day. Russian reformers who get things done are dangerous because they just wind up making a stronger, more dangerous russia that will invariably default to the nature of russians. + +The very core of their culture is incompatible with behaving like normal human beings in large numbers. +--- 57888162 +>>57880949 +--- 57888190 +>>57881126 +Nigger it’s an active war zone. No actor would give a shit about what’s written outside of a building. If there actually are kids there they should be moved. There’s no war in the west. +--- 57888197 +>>57888190 +if you wage war like a nigger or thirdie, maybe. +--- 57888200 +>>57881263 +Yeah, the drug problem is ratfucking pro russian columnists. Literally, you can correlate AIDS and heroin abuse rates in Eastern European states to their Russian immigrant/directly descended population to a hilarious degree +--- 57888212 +>>57880923 +>election +Are you stupid? Who cares if a president is in charge? The one way for them to revoke laws is by going through congress and the Senate. Congress introduces the bill, the Senate reviews the bill. +--- 57888250 +>>57882020 +All I'm saying is that when the Ukranians take back Mauripol, they're gonna find so many skeletons buried underneath it they're gonna rename it to the Bone Zone. +--- 57888270 +>>57881148 +>pro-Russians should be tried in court of law +I’m not pro russian. I really dislike them, just like I dislike the wave of reddit war tourists that gets their panties in a twist over literally anything and everything. +>they bombed a building during a war!!! +>can you imagine?!? A building was targeted!!! +You want to know a secret? People die in wars +--- 57889337 +>>57880176 +i want a pet pig + +>>57880891 +why would you bomb a theatre anyway +--- 57889530 +>>57880176 +based, pigs are cute little trashgobblers +--- 57889655 +>>57880893 +Serbia wasn't habitually turning the guns on its "own" civilians. Kiev is. If democracy 'worked' and wasn't interfered with, this war wouldn't have happened and Maidan wouldn't have mattered. +--- 57889669 +>>57889655 +you again +--- 57889670 +>>57889669 +first post in this thread +--- 57889677 +Here is a recent Russian view on Ukrainians. +--- 57889824 +>>57889655 +--- 57890009 +>>57880187 +Not much credit for this one, anon. But it really speaks to the difference in mentality between the east and the west. Not just a mode of governance, or an economic system, but the way you describe it - the american value system, vs the russian 'keep a low profile' system, really sheds light on the radical differences. +I've thought a bit more about Russian society since the start of this war, and we joke about conscriptovich selling off half his supplies because his commanding officer sold off HIS half, but when phrased like this it really shows how deep the rot may penetrate into their whole society. +--- 57890319 +>>57881013 +>>57880937 +Remember the Ukrainian brotherhood will join us posts. +--- 57890360 +>>57881133 +2004, 2008, and 2016 regiems all printed money bother to do some research before posting. +--- 57890411 +>>57881478 +MIC is hiring like mad. Go to any ship yard and learn to wield. +--- 57890429 +>>57882134 +USA really failed to bring about a better russia both in 1919 and 1991. +--- 57890441 +>>57880176 +--- 57890446 +>>57879932 (OP) +They thought they could break Ukraine's will by making the place a shithole. Unfortunately for Russia, Ukrainians have already experienced Russian rule. They already know that even Russia intentionally damaging their territory with the aim of destroying it will be less destructive than the mundane corruption and incompetence of Russian rule itself. +--- 57890450 +>>57880176 +--- 57890502 +>>57885884 +Dude the Yuans value is directly derived from the USD to increase exports. +--- 57890530 +>>57889655 +lol this is so retarded I can't even follow it. I know you faggots all think (you)s are upvotes, so I'm only encouraging you, but take my (you) anyway. +--- 57890834 +>>57880029 +>wrong intel +>counter intelligence like placing gps reference devices at wrong places +I've seen vatniks and vatnik supporters legitimately use this argument and every time I see this nonsense argument I can't help but wonder if Russians are dumb enought to think people will accept it or if they're dumb enought to believe it themselves. + +The bulk of Ukraine's energy infrastructure was built under the USSR and by its very nature it's not exactly something that's going to get up and move around. You don't need GPS guidance or 'new intel' to hit the V.I. Lenin brown-coal powerplant outside Lviv or a major substation in Kramatorks when they're still in the exact same location they were in 1967 when the Russians were running the place. Basic intertial guidance systems should be able to easily hit them, even the very basic ones that Russia can build under the sanctions regime. + +Russian technology is either worse than the inertial guidance in a German V2 rocket or they're deliberately hitting civilians. Or both. +--- 57890868 +>>57890834 +Actually now I remember that time they shot a missile at Poland and I'm realising that "wrong intel" is a real thing, in the sense of it being a euphemism for "drunk mobik missile operator punched in the coordinates backwards" +--- 57890889 +benis +--- 57890890 +>>57880029 +>They can't figure out where giant transformers, power plants and hospitals are +Anon? +--- 57891098 +>>57889655 +Nigger the Serbs where genociding people living on what they claimed to be their land and thus their citizens. +--- 57891166 +>>57879932 (OP) +I still can't believe this humpty dumpty retard wasted so many expensive, limited missiles on retarded shit. +--- 57891197 +Any Yooks in this thread? Are the blackouts still as bad as they used to be? +--- 57891240 +>>57880176 +Fair and righteous +--- 57891253 +>>57890450 +Nice one anon, if you did in-fact make this +--- 57891268 +>>57890450 +kek +--- 57891473 +>>57887316 +But NA water is literal poison diff --git a/k/57880198.txt b/k/57880198.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..efdb8d3551cfe6c6096a68dc31bf7beba14d21d9 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57880198.txt @@ -0,0 +1,646 @@ +----- +--- 57880198 +>day 419 of 3-day-special-military-operation +>Russia still hasn't captured Bakhmut +--- 57880224 +Can you believe it guys? Bakhmut, just in two weeks! WOO-HOO! +--- 57880241 +420 blazekrieg +--- 57880251 +>>57880241 +Almost there +JUST TWO MORE WEEKS +--- 57880306 +TWO MORE WEEKS +--- 57880457 +>Russia still hasn't captured Bakhmut +--- 57880521 +>>57880198 (OP) +Embarrassing desu senpai +--- 57880634 +>>57880198 (OP) +Ukraine isn't losng fast enough is a win? +--- 57880640 +>Russia still hasn't captured Bakhmut +--- 57880653 +>>57880634 +>Ukraine +>losing backwards +>Russia +>winning backwards +--- 57880692 +>Russia still hasn't captured Bakhmut +--- 57880698 +Two more weeks trust the plan fellow ziggers +--- 57880753 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lTwA5xMeTM [Embed] + +Are you ready Stepan? Uh-huh +Andrey? Da +Mikhail? Okey +Alright tovarisch, let's go! + +Oh it's been getting so hard +Living with the things you do to me +My dreams are getting so strange +I'd like to tell you everything I see + +Oh, I see a man in the back as a matter of fact +His eyes are as white as the HUD +And the girl in the corner, let no one ignore her +She thinks she's the passionate one + +Oh yeah! It was like lightning +Everybody was frightening +And the music was spooking +And they all started drooning + +Yeah, yeah, yeah-yeah-yeah +And the man in the back said, "Everyone attack" +And it turned into a Bakhmut blitz +And the girl in the corner said, "Boy I want to warn you" +It'll turn into a Bakhmut blitz + +Bakhmut blitz x4 +--- 57880761 +>>57880198 (OP) +Big fucking glove. Complicated business. Eyebrow winch broken +--- 57880770 +>Ukraine plan is to wear down enemy elites +>Russia sends in the VDV knowing Ukraine's plan + +God Russians are stupid. +--- 57880775 +>>57880770 +They don't take malnutrition or fetal alcohol syndrome seriously, that's why their dictator is a spergy manlet that shits himself +--- 57881495 +>>57881415 +the russian puppet government did a lot of dumb shit to the ukranian people and now have tried to pass it off as to how terrible and fascist/nazi like they are. +like this entire board didn't witness the clankening. + +Russia might be able to trick 10-12% of americans about elections but we watched open revolt and russian packed puppets abuse their former satellite states here +--- 57881509 +Remember, even after Ukraine win the cope will still continue. +--- 57881518 +>>57880198 (OP) +They have actually +--- 57881549 +>>57880198 (OP) +Vatzisters what going on I we are winning? +--- 57881585 +>USA invades Mexico +>suffers casualties in the 6 digits +>can't capture a shitty town of 70k just a few miles below the border after 8 fucking months +What would be the reaction +--- 57881590 +>>57881549 +Why does he look like a putin double where the surgery failed +--- 57881665 +>>57881585 +They know it's pathetic so they will ignore comparisons like this to claim "you're just mad we're not winning fast enough". If the US was in the exact same situation versus Mexico or Canada they'd be mocking the US relentlessly. +--- 57881676 +>>57880753 +There's a Marichka KK card? +--- 57881789 +>>57881590 +That pic is like 15 years old, Prigozhin now looks like your next door beer loving grandpa +--- 57881817 +>>57880198 (OP) +>what kind of war you want? +>just special operation my shit up +--- 57881838 +>>57881509 +>Ukraine +>win +They aren't getting their land back +--- 57881867 +>>57881838 +Yes, exactly! Just like like they didn't get the land north of Kiev back; nor 97% of Kharkiv; nor Kherson west of the Dnipro, all within 9 months of the start of the 3-day special operation. +--- 57881893 +Oh no no. What is our answer ukie sisters? +--- 57881931 +>>57881549 +>>57881789 + +How the fuck did this Jewish hot dog salesman wind up becoming head of a private army of Neo-Nazis and convicts? +--- 57881964 +>>57881893 +Did Russian capture ANOTHER street? That would be a second occasion this month. +Long live mighty Puccia. +--- 57881975 +>>57881959 +Kherson status? +--- 57881976 +>>57881959 +Definitely a pajeet, if you were Russian you'd know what Rasputitsa is. +--- 57881998 +>>57881574 +Woah! This proves everything! Russia isn't the aggressor! It is the American state! I get it now! I truly do! I am now on my way to protest and demand an overthrow of my government! Thank you! +--- 57882007 +>>57881975 +>Only focusing on Ukraine's victories +You guys are shameless and pathetic +--- 57882015 +>>57881975 + +My opinion of HistoryLegends really did take a nosedive after February 24, 2022 +--- 57882016 +>>57882007 +Post russian victories. +--- 57882021 +>>57881964 +>capture ANOTHER street? +Some reports are saying the Wagner tried to capture a street and cut the Ukies off, but the Ukies knew they were coming. It went very badly. +--- 57882029 +>>57881998 +>>57882012 + +What if I told you that you could support Ukraine and restarting the American Civil War at the same time? +--- 57882032 +>>57882012 +Right on! Death to West! Your Twitter screencap has emboldened me! I think I am going to conduct a terrorist attack! Thank you for your enlightening figure! +--- 57882035 +>>57881590 +That IS Putin +The guy you see on the news is a body double +Putin finally had to step in personally after the war went sideways +--- 57882041 +>>57882016 +The hundreds of miles of territory they hold? +--- 57882055 +>>57882041 +Half a year ago it was twice that much. +--- 57882063 +>>57882041 +A third of that territory wasn't gained in the current war, tho. +--- 57882076 +>>57882032 +>I am going to conduct a terrorist attack! + +If only Ziggers had this kind of courage IRL and started committing terrorist attacks in the West to support the Russian cause. + +Even pre-2022 /pol/ has more fucking balls lmao. +--- 57882084 +>>57882072 + +In that case you should unironically support NATO intervention in Ukraine since the most likely result of that would be a nuclear war +--- 57882085 +>>57882055 +>Half a year ago it was twice that much. +Lie, they only lost about 20% of what they originally seized +--- 57882093 +>>57882072 +Yes! Yes! +Liberty? Choice? No!! +Cleptocracy? Totalitarianism? Yes!! +Long Live the BRICS ALLIANCE!! +--- 57882094 +>>57882085 +I am glad, you retards now include crimea and luganda in those 40k. Not even ziggers consider crimea russia. +--- 57882095 +>>57882085 + +A significant portion of that they already controlled pre-war +--- 57882096 +>>57881645 +>>57881766 +>>57882072 +Do you think about trannies all day? +--- 57882105 +>>57882072 +It goes to show how ineffectual and uninfluential a person is their own life that they think that social trends are not subject to change, especially after our life’s work +--- 57882109 +>>57882085 +Cool, so at this rate the war should end, in Ukraine's favour, in late 2025. +--- 57882111 +>>57882085 +Not according to Russian media. +--- 57882123 +>>57882084 +NTA but i do, a nuclear exchange between Russia the US and China would be the best outcome for the white race. The following famines would probably reduce our peoples population by 5-60% but 99% of shitskins would be dead so its a win. +Problem is that this is not the plan of the jewish kabals that run this war from both sides, they hope to kill as many white christian slavs as possible while laundering hundreds of billions in "military spending". +--- 57882126 +>>57880198 (OP) +>day 419 of 3-day-special-military-operation +Threadly reminder that we have 310 days until the 3 venusian day limit. +--- 57882128 +>>57882110 +You can spot a vatnik just by his writing style. It reeks of social media-shell shocked subhuman who needs to pack as much "umf" in every sentence. +--- 57882145 +>>57882126 +>when your supreme leader literally doesn't even know what planet he's on + +kek'ns +--- 57882147 +>>57882131 +>Shifting goalposts +Haven't had to do that for 8 months +--- 57882162 +>>57880753 +Cute Mari. +--- 57882167 +>>57882152 +desu +--- 57882170 +>>57882123 + +You can always upset the plan by taking a FUN into the Russian Embassy and doing FUN stuff with it while shouting to anyone you conveniently leave alive how much you love Biden and Zelensky and how you're working for the FBI, NSA, and CIA. In the local Minecraft server of course ;) +--- 57882175 +>>57881558 +>Making memes about a small group of nobodies that post on twitter. +I also like to raise and attack strawmen. +--- 57882177 +>>57882131 +How can you still misunderstand the situation that much? It probably will fall, yeah. None of us care about that city, we had never heard of it before the war (just like you) +It just gets funnier every day you somehow manage to not occupy it +--- 57882180 +>>57881549 +>Pro-russian propaganda BAD +>Pro-Ukraine propaganda GOOD +--- 57882182 +>>57882131 +>Russia still hasn’t captured the garden center +--- 57882186 +>>57882152 +Well, you are as good as a vatnik if you want to see the West burn if your brown/yellow brain can't cope with seeing a man kiss a man. +--- 57882201 +>>57882152 +Weird how that bothers you, probably because you keep getting called out for being a foreigner. +--- 57882211 +>>57882180 +Yes. +--- 57882215 +>>57881549 +He looks so fucking decrepit +--- 57882226 +>>57882128 + +Does anyone have a template for this meme? Specifically the one on the left +--- 57882249 +>>57882215 +>an elderly alcoholic convict looks like shit +--- 57882263 +>>57882215 +No, he's just Jewish +--- 57882266 +>>57882229 +Yes, it's an easily defensible position so it would be dumb to just hand it over. The strategic significance comes from the exact situation as it's happening now +Also, that article is 7 months old. Back then, it would indeed have given Russia a "win". By now, it will at most give them a "damn that wasn't worth it" +--- 57882292 +>>57882131 +The only goalposts being moved are Russia's. I forget if they're still after all of Ukraine, just the biolabs, denazification, just the terrirtory they held prior to the invasion, just bakhmut, just killing azov, snake island or at this point valiantly refusing to be kicked out of the country. This place has only had one goal, laugh at Russia for the military equivilant of that russian X-men webm. +--- 57882311 +>>57882201 +>you keep getting called out for being a foreigner. +Huh? Everyone here is a "foreigner" this is a website retard. +--- 57882342 +>>57882305 +The strategic position of being a couple KM deeper into the Donbas? + +What else is there, a fucking cauldron manuevor after reclaiming Izium with VDV? +--- 57882348 +>>57882305 +lmao, Bakhmut was never supposed to be the defensive line, it was the 3 cities behind it, it is just that so many vatniggers died so stupidly that Ukkies just decided to make it a meat grinder and no, Bakhmut will never be a strategic take for Russia since Caesar and HIMARS can shit on anything moving trough it, remember those two systems, systems that Russia has managed to never even damage? +--- 57882361 +>>57882337 +Should kids prostitute themselves to foreigners like they do in trad Russia? +--- 57882372 +>>57882348 +Um ackschtually they did manage to destroy 1 (one) Caesar +--- 57882381 +>>57882342 +Apparently, the strategic position of being able to rest and resupply there, if they had taken it before winter, which of course didn't happen +>>57882305 +Dude I told you why we laugh at you about it. I'm not a journalist writing theses about important locations. I am laughing at Russia for not being able to take some tiny city i never heard of before +I do understand why you think all talking points come from propaganda though +--- 57882400 +>>57882372 +I doubt it. +>>57882388 +stfu cringey ass vatnigger +--- 57882415 +>>57882391 +>>57882406 +keep coping, I haven't forgot "2 weeks till Northern front collapses". +--- 57882432 +>>57882426 +>weapons systems as if they are doing anything to improve Ukraine's chances of accomplishing a victory +lmao +--- 57882463 +>>57881415 +>Ukraine ends +>the powerful white ethnostate of Hunterbidenkraine begins +KNEEL +--- 57882499 +>we may be losing the war, but... +>uh... +>TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES +Why are vatniggers like this? And why can't they take Bakhmut? +--- 57882513 +>>57882499 +Mental illness and protection. +Never forget the amount of faggotry that was exposed within russian military during this war. +--- 57882528 +>>57882369 +yes yes rajesh your english is perfect Im sure your tutor was very expensive +--- 57882547 +>>57881585 +We all know, and so do the self-hating westerners that shill for Russia, but calling out hypocrisy does not abate it. Hypocrites are as shameless as grifters, and beating them in debates is like nailing jelly to a wall. +--- 57882619 +>>57882595 +>xenophobic +--- 57882672 +>>57882518 +lel +--- 57882717 +>>57882670 +Kek is that a picture of Moscow? +--- 57882720 +>>57882110 +They hold about quaer to third of the town. I think the still hold all of the old fortress city part actually. +And that's after eight moths of siege? Maybe nine at this point. +--- 57882727 +>>57882670 +Ultra trad russian bussy boi that's dodging chechen cock/getting droned by shitting up k +--- 57882856 +>>57882670 +>4chan.ru/k +Пpoвaливaй нa aбyчaн, yeбищe. +--- 57882922 +>muh trannies +>meanwhile, russian soldiers literally get gender reassignment surgery on the frontlines +--- 57882931 +>>57882041 +How come Russians haven't """"liberated"""" all of the """"totally Russian clay bro"""" they annexed in September? +--- 57882949 +>>57881574 +Western governments should stop treating fifth columnists like you with kiddie gloves. Most of you unironically deserve jail time. +--- 57883016 +>>57882991 +>posting and thinking a parody account is real +back to >>>/pol/ +--- 57883057 +>>57882946 +>loses war +>brags about torturing and murdering prisoners + +The more you remind the world what subhumans are like, the easier it becomes to make a case for genocide against them. Thank you. +--- 57883061 +>>57882991 +It'd be amazing, especially if you retards tried to resist. You'd be doing the world a favor, I'll vote for any politician that drops the hammer on you in an instant. +--- 57883119 +>>57883096 +I'll literally reenlist if it means I get to drag /pol/tards screaming out of their basements. You faggots don't elicit fear, you elicit disgust and it's about time for something to be done about your traitorous bullshit. +--- 57883129 +>>57881549 +He's acting like Sun Tzu advised: appear weak when you're strong, appear strong when you're weak. If he's saying that things are going bad, it means that musicians are close to winning in Bakhmut +--- 57883137 +>>57883082 +oh shit did you just admit that russian troops are getting rekt so hard it's considered genocide? +--- 57883143 +>>57883096 +Can you run a mile without getting winded? Do you even OWN a gun? +--- 57883174 +>>57882072 +oh no how terrible +--- 57883229 +>>57882717 +Did you not see the VR headset? Much too technologically advanced for any Russian city +--- 57883281 +>>57883214 +>Retard, what the Ukrainians were doing to ethnic Russians from 2013(4) onward was genocide. + +Good. Russians should be removed from other countries without any regard for their well-being because Russia uses them as an excuse to attack other countries. The Russians have fucked around too much, now they are finding out. + +Spoiler alert: all Russians will be removed from Crimea once it's taken back. Allowing them to stay alive is optional. The world won't care and it's gonna be hilarious. +--- 57883316 +>>57883214 +>what the Ukrainians were doing to ethnic Russians from 2013(4) onward was genocide +I fucking wish +--- 57883330 +>>57882012 +The USSR fought against America only to become a gay retarded version of it. History repeats +--- 57883348 +>>57883214 +So should niggers be allowed to replace white Americans and Europeans without repercussions? Do you support the Great Replacement? Because that's the same strategy Russians have been trying to pull on Ukrainians for decades, only the Ukrainians won't lie down and take it. +--- 57883373 +>>57882126 +The SMO uses Mercury-time, actually. It's always Day One on a tidally-locked planet. +--- 57883381 +>>57883346 +Nobody's crying, nobody is surprised it is well known that Russians are subhumans and thus we expect them to act as such. When it comes to Crimea, they are simply trespassing on foreign territory and thus they will be evicted. + +You have to go back, motherfucker. +--- 57883388 +>>57883346 +>You did bad thing in the past therefore I can do 12 times worse now! +The retarded vatnik mind +--- 57883447 +>>57882305 +>western media and think tanks changed to "bakhmut is not important" since january. +September actually. Six weeks into the eight month, two week, and two day-long (so far) battle. +--- 57883485 +>>57882595 +have you tried going back to /pol/? +--- 57883536 +>>57880198 (OP) +Once again, /chug/s out in force. What disaster did Russia suffer this time? +--- 57883552 +>>57883528 +So who died, father? Brother? Son? Who is Putin responsible for sending out to die? +--- 57883569 +>>57883528 +You don't have to type all that. You can just say, yes I came here from /pol/ +--- 57883595 +>>57883552 +His entire family died, but it has nothing to do with Putin. They caught dysentery and died just as they lived: further polluting the holy Ganges river with human shit. +--- 57883714 +>>57883119 +Don't forget to eat the brownies. +--- 57883723 +>>57883622 +Basically I'm just not gonna support Russia +I know.... UGH I know ..... I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!! +It's just that I'm gonna keep laughing at thousands of dead russians, that's all +HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA +--- 57883784 +>>57883727 +>6 days with no rest +NGMI +--- 57883813 +>>57882922 +>filename +smiled IRL +--- 57883938 +>>57880198 (OP) +Slow and steady wins the race. +--- 57884715 +>>57883281 +Ukrainians didn't genocide Russians, but they should have, and it should happen again. +--- 57884891 +Ukraine still hasn’t taken DPR/LPR/Crimea +--- 57884900 +>>57884891 +Neither has Russia +--- 57884922 +>>57884900 +Now that’s some actual cope lol +--- 57884943 +>>57882007 +>Ukraine isn’t get it’s land back here +>>57881838 +Then +>noooo stop focusing just on Ukrainian victories + +Which is it Ivan? +--- 57884954 +>>57882016 +Technically their “mostly winning” in land. So was Germany in the eastern front until 1942 +--- 57885531 +>>57881998 +yes not not also just must the revolt be against the American state by patriots but also for Example against the France State by French Patriot and also maybe teh Poland state by Poland Patriots? Even the california state is with President Putin in his struggle to save the white trace. Also the Calexit, Brexit, Texas Independence Irish Communist and similar shit like Golden Shower. +--- 57885643 +>>57885531 +Someone translate this incomprehensible schizo babble please +--- 57885715 +>>57881893 +You stupid faggots could capture it right now and it would still be a historically embarrassing failure for Russia. It's a single small to medium sized city. It should have taken a month and a fraction of the lives to take it. +--- 57885767 +>>57882128 +Why wouldn't this work? +--- 57885815 +>>57880224 +Kek love that cheery Christmas girl +--- 57886155 +>>57881789 +bro looks like darth vader without his suit mask +--- 57886170 +NEW BAKH MAP +--- 57886215 +NEW BAKH CAT +--- 57886436 +>>57881931 +being friends with Putin means you get fat stacks and a lot of power. +--- 57888006 +>>57886215 +is this your cat? if so I will save it because it is cute +--- 57889162 +>>57881931 +He's one of the biggest Russian Mafia leaders which makes him basically a major Russian political leader. Look at this story before Putin became president, its Mafia as hell. +--- 57889193 +>>57881585 +*10 months. +--- 57889207 +>>57885531 +>Californian independence +Lots of Americans would support this but not for the reason people expect it... +--- 57889216 +Bakmut is 90% control by Z holhol pigger. seethe, cope I don't care Russia will win!!!!!! +--- 57889236 +>>57882093 +>BRICS Alliance +Get me out of here. Por favor. Help me. +--- 57889363 +>>57883447 +Most ISW repoets are pretty dry, but they were spitting straight fire after Kharkiv. +--- 57889621 +>>57881893 +One more street taken!!! Two more weeks until the next street!!! +--- 57889701 +>>57880198 (OP) +>419 days in +>Russia has taken over the 4 majority Russian speaking provinces is said it wanted +>Leaks revealed the Ukranian Army has been decimated +>Global power balances completely being rewritten, many of the biggest economies dropping the petrodollar +>the entire Globalist American Empire, including all its vassal states like the EU and Canada and Australia are all in against Russia and STILL can't push Russia out + +Fucking kek. Imagine travelling back in time just 20 years ago and telling the Americans then that not only would they lose a war to fucking Afghanistan but Russia is taking their vassal state and America is powerless to stop them. Meanwhile the whole culture revolves around kneeling for negros and your kids are becoming trannies. Talk about accelerated decline. +--- 57889941 +>>57886215 +Cool cat :) +--- 57890004 +ArBaKadaver ! +--- 57890196 +>>57882182 +Two more wee...month....years, komrade. We will take the garden center and move into lumber, and then the paint section....then drywall and linoleum! +--- 57890283 +>>57889701 +>>Leaks revealed... +which version? The original, the badly photoshopped one...or the really obviously, badly photoshopped one? + +>the Ukranian Army has been decimated +Point of order: "Decimated" literally means they lost 10% of their forces. 10. Literally 1 out of 10. That is what the word Decimated actually means. +The Russians, contrarywise, haven't been decimated; because they didn't lose 10%....they've literally lost 100%. +So, not decimated, I think the technical term is....violently assraped to oblivion. + +>the entire Globalist American Empire, including all its vassal states like the EU and Canada and Australia are all in against Russia and STILL can't push Russia out +First off, nope. NATO isn't even on the battlefield. +Second of all, when NATO does enter the battlefield, Russia will cease to exist within 48 hours. Even quicker if they are stupid enough to try and nuke anyone. +Screencap me, vatnik. +You know deep down in your shrivelled ballsack, that this is true. + +>not only would they lose a war to fucking Afghanistan +What, ypu mean like the USSR did....and then immediately collapsed? +--- 57890491 +>Russia still hasn't captured Bakhmut +--- 57890532 +Day 420 +Lmao funny weed number +--- 57890648 +>Day 420 of 3-day-special-military-operation +>Russia still hasn't captured Bakhmut +--- 57890665 +>>57880698 +Man, tankettes are nifty +--- 57890735 +>Russia still hasn't captured Bakhmut +--- 57890743 +>>57889701 +>Globalist American Empire, +>mmmmm Globalist isn't descriptive enough for this group of global elites, we need to find some way to pin it down solely on American elites thereby absolving all the other elites involved. +Transparent. +--- 57890770 +>>57890743 +I think he just wanted the acronym to sound like gay +--- 57890783 +>>57890665 +You will live to see fully autonomous tankettes that wag their cannons when you pat their turrets +--- 57890798 +>>57890770 +>GAE +Have you ever wondered where this comes from? Because I only see it being pushed by TRS tier tankies. It seems like they realized that their brown nations (Russia/China) were implicated in "globalism" so they added "American" in front of it. +--- 57890903 +>Russia still hasn't captured Bakhmut +--- 57890915 +Fuck usraine pigs +--- 57890928 +>>57890915 +That's your face, pigster +--- 57890932 +>day 419 of 3-day-special-military-operation +>Ukraine has become the poorest country in Europe +>Ukraine has already lost a bunch of its regions and territories +>A large part of the population has left the country or died. +>Even after Ukraine has secured its statehood its continued existence is in doubt. +>Ukraine is being helped as politely as a homeless man begging for beer and snacks. + +I'm satisfied. +--- 57890942 +>>57890932 +Cope harder, puccian + +>Russia still hasn't captured the elevator +--- 57890989 +You know what? + +>Russia still hasn't captured Bakhmut +--- 57891000 +JUST +--- 57891019 +>>57886155 +Sebastian Shaw? +--- 57891027 +>>57890989 +Dude, /pol/ are supposed to be the creatively bankrupt r/wojak refugees. +--- 57891501 +Gooday, Bakhmut is captured today (again). diff --git a/k/57880210.txt b/k/57880210.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..272ded73ee6a23cdc6cd566b6865749c9dc9439d --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57880210.txt @@ -0,0 +1,788 @@ +----- +--- 57880210 +That's a new camo paint Bradleys recieved in Ukraine +Say something nice about it +--- 57880219 +Sexo +I want pixel camo f35 +--- 57880249 +>>57880210 (OP) +>green Bradleys and possibly Abrams in the future fighting Russians +Nature is healing +--- 57880258 +>>57880210 (OP) + +the circle is closed + +After 30 years, the Bradley is finally home, in the forests of his ancestors, moving forward against the Huns. +--- 57880273 +>>57880210 (OP) +where exactly is this? please tell me so i can send care package to brave defenders +--- 57880298 +>>57880210 (OP) +>Say something nice about it +At least it isn't desert tan. +--- 57880316 +>>57880210 (OP) +I honestly thought they were going into battle in that dumbass tan paint. +--- 57880354 +>>57880210 (OP) +>we live in a timeline where russian army is gonna get it's teeth kicked in by Bradleys using TOWs. +What a time to be alive. +--- 57880362 +>>57880273 +Soon in a neighborhood near you, vanya. +--- 57880371 +>>57880273 +Vosdvizhenka str. 1 +--- 57880378 +>>57880210 (OP) +goofy ass arma 3 camo fr fr +--- 57880381 +>>57880316 +Edgy cunt +--- 57880383 +the mobiks are ready +--- 57880384 +>>57880370 + +nah, you faggot +--- 57880387 +>>57880370 +>Missing the point this hard. +Retard. +--- 57880445 +>>57880370 +>Cuck opinion. +OPINION DISCARDED +War is progress. Peace is decadence. +--- 57880471 +>>57880445 +>War is progress. Peace is decadence. +That's not true at all. War means destruction, casualties, a decline in the real economy and standard of living, moral and ethical decadence (exemplified by videos of war crimes commited by both sides in this war), and the deterioration of freedoms and opportunities. +--- 57880520 +>>57880471 + +the real damage and cost are the social programs so niggers can pretend to be normal human beings during the day and not the societal ballast they are + +military spending is small in comparison +--- 57880531 +someone explain to me what the advantage of meme Digital Camo style is. is it just easier to apply? +--- 57880544 +>>57880471 +Both sides? Kill yourself vatnik +--- 57880551 +>>57880531 + +it was left back at home during Desert Storm +--- 57880553 +>>57880383 +>tfw you're the first crew to lose a Bradley, Abrams, Challenger 2 or Leo +YOU DISHONOUR YOU. YOU DISHONOUR YOUR FAMIRY! +--- 57880568 +>>57880531 ++5 damage modifier to vatniks +--- 57880576 +>>57880210 (OP) +Pixel camo is so 00's. I always hated it, it's not real camo but fashion statement muh we're minecraft modern. +--- 57880578 +>>57880219 +F35 in MiG-29MU2 or Ukrainian Su-27 livery +--- 57880585 +>>57880210 (OP) +hello where gun? +--- 57880593 +>>57880383 +Why do zniggers always use things like counter and checkmate as the name of their weapons kek. Always sounds like cope to me. +--- 57880626 +>>57880553 +Can't wait for the six weeks of spam of destroyed HATO wunderwaffen this'll bring. +--- 57880656 +>>57880273 +don't worry about it anon, they'll come to you! +--- 57880695 +>>57880210 (OP) +Paintjob looks nice but where's the gun barrel? +--- 57880702 +>>57880210 (OP) +It's not woodland but still OK. +--- 57880726 +>>57880210 (OP) +NYOOOOOO +I wanted kino desert camo in the middle of the forest +--- 57880739 +its missing something +--- 57880741 +>>57880695 +taken off for the painting and transport? +--- 57880747 +>>57880210 (OP) +No ERA? +what the fuck are you doing ukrainians? That vehicle is unprotected. +--- 57880750 +So they're definitely going to add all these paintjobs to War Thunder, right? +--- 57880762 +>>57880750 +Too soon probably, for both sides. Unless they maybe sell them for charity or something. +--- 57880769 +>>57880750 +There's no M2A2SA in War Thunder, sorry ))))))))))) +--- 57880785 +>>57880750 +It's ruzzian game so no +--- 57880807 +>>57880316 + You live in a reality where your dumbass conclusions and thoughts can be expressed quicker than a poor Uke can fill up his spray applicator. +--- 57880810 +>>57880210 (OP) +>"We have noticed this vehicle is not bricked up yet" +--- 57880819 +>>57880747 +LET THE PAINT DRY FOR FUCKS SAKE +--- 57880854 +>>57880316 +>Civilization could support modern technological developments if war was the norm. +War might even advanced technological developments in small doses, but as the norm for a generation, e.g., the Thirty Years War, Afghanistan, etc. it just leads to collapse. + +If war was the actually the norm you wouldn't get tactilarp clothes and optics, you'd get sticks and rocks. +--- 57880892 +>>57880520 +Blatantly false. Education and welfare improve societies and it has been proved again and again. Social program-less societies are those who we commonly refer to as "shit holes". Military expenditure is necessary to defend those conquests. Ukraine is the demonstration of just that,a nation fighting in order to have a society that allows all to develop and prosper. + +If you are depressed and like the idea of living in a distopia that s your business, but do not lie. +--- 57880900 +>>57880785 +Not anymore. They know where the wind is blowing. +--- 57880906 +>>57880471 +This +>>57880544 +There ARE war crimes from "both sides". There would NOT be if it wasn't for Russia. They are Russia responsibility and mentioning their existence is not vatniky. More likely you are the vatnik, denying the obvious to make one part look retarded. +--- 57880917 +>>57880471 +>>57880544 +>>57880906 +>taps sign +--- 57880928 +>>57880210 (OP) +pixel camo is gay, but it is nice to see Brads in some color other than terrorist tan +--- 57880942 +>>57880210 (OP) +Don't you fuckers dare calling me a vatnik or anything, but I always thought pixel camo on vehicles is just some sort ot cargo cult, like with camo used on chink vehicles. +Prove me wrong. +--- 57880957 +>>57880892 +True, but only when welfare is designed to get people off of it. In America, blacks have no shame in abusing welfare and refuse to participate in the educational system. Out country is certainly doomed as well as any other country they leech off of. +--- 57880963 +>>57880942 +Berlin expo. + +Also it became Uke's camo only after they ended up using vehicles painted with it intended for export. I guess the contracts was for mexico or some place I don't know what has the weird spaced out pixels. +--- 57880968 +>>57880273 +It's in moscow. +--- 57880974 +>>57880593 +Sometimes its fagot or femboy +--- 57880977 +>>57880370 +>t. John Smith from Washington oblast +--- 57880984 +>>57880316 +>I honestly thought they were going into battle in that dumbass tan paint. +This only says thing about you and nothing else +--- 57880989 +>>57880900 +Explain what they're doing that makes you think that +>.t old guard +--- 57880991 +>>57880210 (OP) +Weird not seeing it in desert tan. +--- 57880996 +>>57880984 +ESL go away +--- 57880998 +>>57880316 +Reality for Ruzzia. +--- 57881002 +>>57880989 +They arent. Wot and warthunder will continue to suck russian dick forever and leeching europeans euros. Fuck those companies and the people whio still play those games. +--- 57881038 +>>57880989 +They moved out of russia and banned any discussion about the war. They at least tried to be apolitical. Going as far as to disable chat and comments until things got a bit more civil. + +Regardless where you stand on the issue, I think this is preferable to shilling for either side. +--- 57881050 +>>57881038 +They moved out of Russia to avoid sanctions, not due to any stance on the war. +They closed chat due to most of the chat being anti-russian +Stop fucking lying +--- 57881056 +>>57881050 +Most recently they got rid of custom profile pics on the forums because of the various ukrainian flags, NAFO dogs and Z insignias +--- 57881058 +>>57880985 +Doesn’t every red blooded westerner +--- 57881061 +>>57881050 +Maybe because they are a video game and they don't want anything to do with it? +--- 57881066 +>>57880854 +>TWO STICKS AND A ROCK FOR THE WHOLE PLATOON +>AND WE HAD TO SHARE THE ROCK +--- 57881071 +>>57881038 +>>57881056 +What a fucking shitfest. They love to suck russians dick but they NEED western euros/dollars. How ironic +--- 57881072 +>>57881071 +Are you one of thos schizos who think russian bias is a thing? +--- 57881081 +>>57881071 +Actually it's chinese dollars that keep them afloat. 90% of chinese players in that game (and there are a fucking SHITLOAD) use the FOTM premium vehicle +--- 57881084 +>>57880316 +It’s simple, as the saying goes: + +Hard men -> fun time -> soft men -> flaccid times -> times new roman -> roman men -> pizza thyme +--- 57881093 +>>57880210 (OP) +>Western tanks and IFVs in green camo are rolling through eastern european plains to kill vatniks. + +We are so back NATObros +--- 57881110 +>>57881072 +The amount of times T-80s haven't exploded when I turn their ammo black or Ka-50/Su-25s eat stingers. The game is full of Russian Bias. +--- 57881125 +>>57881084 +>-> pizza thyme +time to +GET FUNKY +E +T +F +U +N +K +Y +--- 57881129 +>>57881110 +>The amount of times M1 crewmen haven't died when I shot the side of one or I get destroyed by a Maverick from undetectable CAS. The game is full of American Bias +--- 57881140 +>>57880256 +This, frankly. +--- 57881159 +>>57880210 (OP) +Soul +>>57880378 +Soulless + +sorry I don't make the rules those are just facts. +--- 57881161 +>>57881129 +Don't have that issue, Abrams dies in one shot in the game if you hit the turret ring. +I've reached top tier in Slavs, Germoid and Bong trees and the T-80s are absolutely the most brain-dead to play. Stupidly tanky and 3BM42/46/60 spall a lot. +Relikt ERA eats all the spall and the relikt tiles are about 15% bigger then they should be, I dont need to show the picture right? +--- 57881169 +>>57881072 +Russian bias is definitely a thing you dumb nigger, the KA-52 is proof of that. +Airburst Vikhrs? Are you fucking kidding me? +--- 57881170 +>>57881050 +>They closed chat due to most of the chat being anti-russian +Ahahahaha. Revenge for all those years of CS:GO teamspeaks full of raging russnigglets +--- 57881171 +>>57880210 (OP) +Very nice +where's the Kontakt-1 though? +--- 57881180 +>>57881161 +>Don't have that issue, T-80 dies in one shot in the game if you shoot shoot the side of the turret/power plate/driver weakspot + +>>57881169 +>American bias is definitely a thing you dumb nigger, the F-14 is a proof of that +--- 57881187 +>>57881180 +F-14s radar underperforms massively in that game compared to DCS you fucking clown +--- 57881199 +>>57880258 +They are not invading Hungary. +--- 57881201 +>>57881187 +And it's still stomps. +You point? +--- 57881202 +>>57880370 +ok but who is going to defend against putin and the 100k snowniggers coming to shit your sandcastle up? +--- 57881207 +>>57881180 +>>57881187 +Meanwhile I forgot to add the Vikhr missiles can perfectly track air targets, have you seen Vikhr missiles footage IRL? They spiral like crazy and miss ground targets half the time +Russia is the most handheld nation in that game. +T-80B shouldn't even have thermals really like 5 tanks received them +--- 57881216 +>>57881201 +F-14 underperforms while Roosiya over performs massively, they can't even have a shit navy like in real life and Gaijin gave them fantasy paper ship Kronstadt +--- 57881222 +>>57881207 +>>57881216 +You realise you can cherrypick shit like that for literally every nation in the game? +--- 57881240 +>>57881222 +>Bong tanks +All shit +>German tanks +Leopard 2A5s were datamined to have worse spall modifiers because rooster mains cried lmao +>Russian tanks +T-72/90s are reasonable +T-80s are absolute clown mobiles with joke DMs +Also how the Puma got hit with the NERF hammer while the 2S38 continues to be a menace and gets ammunition that doesn't exist IRL (the airburst round) while 30mm AHEAD doesn't work at all +--- 57881245 +>>57880210 (OP) +I like it. RHS when? + +>>57880985 +Kill yourself. +--- 57881252 +>>57881240 +Sounds like you try to justify your shit perfomance by crying about mean russian tanks. +--- 57881265 +>>57880626 +The thing is the Bradley isn't close to a wunderwaffen. Blowing one up shouldn't count as a great victory in anyone's mind. Losing a tank to one however should be a massive embarassment. +--- 57881275 +>>57880273 +55.75094253284527, 37.61660543012162 +--- 57881278 +>>57881252 +Funny how I perform better with a Russian line up how Russian teams have like 65% W/R on thunderskill then isn't it especially now that Pantsir which is a joke of an AA system in real life that gets dabbed on by shit drones has absolutely locked out the sky +--- 57881293 +>>57880892 +>Improving society +You think society improved in the last few years…? +--- 57881476 +>>57880210 (OP) +Where is the fcuking gun ??? +--- 57881482 +>>57880370 +>telling you are from plebbit with say telling it +kek +It's a mutt for sure. +--- 57881501 +>>57880210 (OP) +Literally arma 3 image +--- 57881523 +>>57880370 +>We should stop sponsoring our military with our taxes +>The bottom thing is what we all should strive for. +Many people will think that this is a Russian troll. But I know that many burghers are really too stupid to believe it. Si vis pacem, para bellum BITCH. +--- 57881535 +>>57880370 +>We should stop sponsoring our military +That's the easiest way to turn the bottom picture into the top picture very fast. +--- 57881536 +>>57880838 +Those bean guys have the +>I know I fucked up but If I pretend I am not here everything is fine +stare +The bitches are way too smug to be an appropriate reaction +--- 57881545 +>>57881507 +That excavator is a cherry on top. +--- 57881563 +>>57880553 +Every Ukie that dies defending their homeland has died an honorable death. +--- 57881608 +>>57880381 +>edgy +What a retard. +--- 57881628 +>>57880210 (OP) +Altis/Stratis camo +--- 57881724 +>>57880210 (OP) +would not survive a hit from Terminator-2 main gun +--- 57881754 +>>57881724 +I don't think they need to worry about it hitting tank sized target at ranges 100+ meters +--- 57881756 +>>57881724 +>would not survive a hit from Terminator-2 main gun + +OH NO NO NO ZISTERS, OUR RESPONSE???! +--- 57881770 +>>57881724 +you know, if it only could hit anything +--- 57881785 +>>57881724 +Didn't they push these to the rear after the crews realized they couldn't hit shit at the 500m engagement ranges IFVs are fighting at? +--- 57881828 +>>57881770 +>could be instantly solved simply by turning the muzzle brakes 30° away from each other so that the barrels don't blast each other with a jet of propellant gases + +Russia is a fucking cargo cult holy shit. +--- 57881830 +>>57880370 +Absolute brainlet take +If you want peace, prepare for war +--- 57881862 +>>57881756 +lamo +Most recent Puccian wunderwaffe countered by + NATO IFV from 1988. +--- 57881887 +>>57881724 +>would not survive a hit from Terminator-2 main gun +You mean the super common cold war era soviet 30mm autocannon that the uparmored Bradley was specifically upgraded to be resistant to? +--- 57881888 +>>57880219 +>f35 +Gay +--- 57881889 +>>57880593 +They miss when NATO gave cool names to their shit and being Russian now have to amp them it up to a retarded degree +--- 57881910 +>>57880383 +>Lobaev Arms +>Russian manufacturer of precision rifles +>makes ARs + +It's ogre. +Stoner won. +--- 57881937 +>>57881828 +Indeed it is. +They put two guns on it to begin with is because they couldn't figure out to do a dual feed ammo system so the gunner could switch between HE and AP. +--- 57881990 +>>57881913 +Now this is where you fucked up comrade pidor, no bonus for you. And no, I'm not gonna tell you which parts you fucked up. +--- 57882087 +>>57880957 +>country is doomed by the upkeep on a bunch of obsolete farm equipment +chill out dude, we can clearly afford it +--- 57882159 +>>57881913 +Oy vey +--- 57882208 +>>57881507 +They’re both shallow copy pasted graves tho +--- 57882212 +>>57881038 +It was pretty hilarious when they would have to ban the chat each time the Ukrainians had a victory. +--- 57882227 +>>57881937 +>because they couldn't figure out to do a dual feed ammo system so the gunner could switch between HE and AP + +Wrong. +The original 2A42 in the >40 year old fucking BMP-2 turret ALREADY has a working, reliable, elegant dual-feed system. +The problem is, modern Russian """engineers""" couldn't design their way out of a wet cardboard box. They just cannibalize old shit and weld it together. + +Ever since the curtain fell, Russia has been cannibalizing the corpse of the Soviet Union while trying their hardest to make the West believe they actually have capability to do R&D. They don't. They don't have a single indigenous MBT or fighter design since the 90s that isn't vaporware (Su-57, Armata) or lipstick on a pig (T-90 aka T-72M obr 1992). +The Terminator is literally a T-72 hull (1970s) with two 2A42s (1980s), four Atakas (1980s), two AGS-17s (1970s) and a PKT (60s). + +Russia is a successor society. They're troglodytes going through ruins of the cities of their grandfathers, and gawking with childish wonder at technology they can never hope to replicate again. +The saddest / most hilarious part of that is that the USSR of the 1980s was already an assbackwards shitshow compared to the West. +--- 57882243 +>>57880383 +Based vatnik +--- 57882313 +>>57880210 (OP) +Goes well with the uniforms +https://youtube.com/shorts/ysWwp4-f9gA +--- 57882376 +>>57881828 +The ukes just mounted a brace on it (check out BTR-4) +--- 57882384 +>>57881724 +>>57881754 +>>57881770 +>>57882227 +Yeah +--- 57882442 +>>57881862 +Of note, these vehicles with 2A42 using a muzzle brake like BMP-2 and BMPT can't actually use APDS anyway because the sabot strikes the baffles and makes it wildly inaccurate even for the normal standards of 2A42. +Russian 30mm APDS was only really meant for BMP-3 and BMD-4 +--- 57882450 +>>57882384 +>1.6m spread at 10m +Holy mother of fuck, calling that a "shotgun spread" would be an insult to shotguns. +--- 57882570 +>>57882384 +Why 9.5? It's never wobble this much on video frame by frame +--- 57882736 +SECOND TO NONE +--- 57882770 +>>57880210 (OP) +As seen on Ghost Recon 2. +--- 57882779 +>>57881490 +--- 57882796 +I WAS PROMISED CV90S WHERE ARE THE CV90S REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE +--- 57883000 +where ERA? +--- 57883021 +>>57880210 (OP) +why the fuck do they use glossy paint instead of matte? looks like shit +--- 57883035 +>>57881202 +robots and mentally ill loners who are given briefcase nukes +--- 57883052 +>>57880210 (OP) +>pixelshit +>not woodland +Dropped +--- 57883062 +>>57881050 +they ban players who put the Z marking on their vehicle. +you won't change your mind right now but you will later. +gaijan is not super pro russian gaming cabal just because you got thunderfucked by a yak +--- 57883095 +>>57881199 +They will soon if Orban won't stop sucking Russian dick and being a hindrance to NATO. +--- 57883101 +>>57880316 +Retarded meme. Couple of years of war consumes so much resources that it cannot last. +This is reality of life on earth for russian subhumans. Everyone else will do everything they can to maintain prosperity. +--- 57883240 +>>57883190 + +found the vatnigger +--- 57883541 +>>57880210 (OP) +>It took me a good minute of searching the photo for Bradley before I understood that it's the tank's name and not some guy called Bradley who was hiding somewhere in pixel camo +--- 57883649 +>>57881072 +>pantsir s1 +>ka-52 missiles +>2s38 with fantasy ammo +>su-25 tanking 30 stingers +It absolutely is a thing. +--- 57883678 +>>57883649 +cope +--- 57883730 +>>57881828 +The funny thing about that clip is that only one of the guns is firing. That thing wobbles like mad even alone +--- 57883781 +>>57883730 +It's pushing against the other barrel, making the whole assembly wobble. Plus if gases only encounter resistance on one side of the brake, it's gonna contribute to the vibrations. +There is barrel whip on the BMP-2 too, but not nearly this bad, they just giga fucked the mounting on the Terminator. +--- 57883799 +>>57883176 +lol have they run out of space to the point of putting graves on the fucking traffic island? +--- 57883829 +>>57880445 +You know you can go to war if you have such a boner for it retard +--- 57883852 +>>57881110 +Su-25s have tanked stingers on camera during this war you stupid fucking cringelord, the best trees in the game are Germany's and Sweden's by far, you are angry at numbers on a screen because they don't fit your bias +--- 57883874 +>>57883190 +He fights for his gibs because the EU told his sorry ass to clean up his act. +--- 57883902 +>>57881199 +No, no, you're misunderstanding. These Bradleys will be used against the evil forces of MLM schemes. DoTerra and it's huns will drown in a river of blood. +--- 57883923 +>>57880383 +>Kill a Bradley and we'll give you a gun that actually works for once +Bleak, but probably motivational. +--- 57883935 +>>57881828 +No it would not, it's not caused by gas ejections, shit is just wobbly. +--- 57883973 +>>57881536 +Smug girls are for mating press correction +--- 57883984 +>>57881125 +Sugarcoated status : not +--- 57884027 +>>57880210 (OP) +Reminds me of Dual-Tex +--- 57884047 +>>57880210 (OP) +Its big sexo but why the digital pattern? Wouldn't traditional woodland stripe be a better choice? +--- 57884075 +>>57884047 +Fast and easy. +Cut stencils out of cardboard and let that paint rip my man. +--- 57884271 +>>57881072 +>>57881110 + +>STRONK SOVIET INSENSITIVE NITROCELULLOSE PROPELLANT CASES DOESNT BURN +>VODKA FUEL TANKS SMOTHER WEAK EFFEMINATE DECADENT WESTERN SPALLING LIKE BABY IN RUSSIAN WOMB +--- 57884615 +>>57881724 +i dont get why zigger faggot shill this vehicle so much its only upside is that it fires 30mm twice as fast as other apcs +--- 57884636 +>>57883973 +every nice lady deserves a mating press +--- 57884667 +>>57880370 +Ironically the Russian Army wouldn't be so terrible if its country had invested in infrastructure. +--- 57884708 +>>57880210 (OP) +>>57880227 +Uhh where are the guns? +--- 57884741 +>>57882227 +>already an ass backwards shitshow +it never was anything more than that really +>.t butthurt belter who heard stories +--- 57885146 +>>57884636 +I love filling my gf with cum! +--- 57885192 +>>57884708 +guns are there, transported without barrels though +--- 57885245 +>>57884708 +They've been taken out while the vehicle is being painted. +--- 57885286 +>>57881072 +--- 57885410 +>>57882384 +Will never not be hilarious. +--- 57885598 +>>57885286 +This pic doesn't mean tank was fully penetrated. It's the same deal with Abrams photo. All you can see is ammo detonation. +--- 57885878 +>>57881169 +Best part is the Vikhrs are innacurate as fuck in real life and miss the fucking ground target in this demo video, hitting the dirt just in front of it +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyabIb2QxuU [Embed] +--- 57885951 +>>57885878 +>and miss the fucking ground target in this demo video, hitting the dirt just in front of it +Where? +--- 57886716 +>>57885598 +Nigger half the tank is missing +>>57885878 +--- 57886735 +>>57880210 (OP) +Green Bradley. +--- 57886736 +>>57880316 +>reality of life on earth +>conflict lile this only existing in the middle east, Africa, and some of eastern Europe + +Yea +--- 57886761 +>>57881125 +Pizza. Spaghetti. Meatballs. Salsa. Cornbread Ravioli. +--- 57886807 +>>57880210 (OP) +I like pixel camo. Looks modern +--- 57886853 +>>57883541 +>tanks name. >it’s literally a ifv >doesn’t immediately know what a Bradly is. You gotta lurk more bud +--- 57886890 +>>57880892 +Wrong. Very wrong. Most of the countries Americans call "shit holes" have very large social welfare structures, usually much bigger than the economies they have can afford. Countries like Argentina, Brazil, China, have practically their whole government and state structure as a big Keynesian jobs program, where the government deliberately bloats its state to artificially create jobs with large pensions as a way to just hand people money, even calling this "wealth redistribution". And that's just one way they do this. + +The problem is that this is obviously not sustainable so the economy breaks down and so do all these structures meant to keep people employed or having money, which means they eventually don't do anything. The bigger problem is that this whole scheme keeps a lot of people making money for generations through things like rent-seeking and they use that money to keep their positions and these structures from being fixed and worse, work hard to make them even more bloated. +--- 57886893 +>>57880531 +In urban environments, especially bombed-out ones with bricks and fences and walls everywhere, it helps break up the vehicle's profile, especially in low-visibility scenarios such as dawn attacks or heavy rain. On the other hand, the vehicle is likely to stand out in a wooded environment no matter how you paint it, since its angles aren't natural - you really need to cover it in nets and physical camo. So, for paint jobs, digital camo patterns make sense. And if they don't work after all, well, they look good and are pretty easy to do. +--- 57886961 +>>57880942 +I agree. As I understood the original idea was for uniforms and such to be produced by computers without repeating patterns, but if you're hand painting it seems unnecessary and maybe counterproductive. +--- 57886974 +>>57886853 +I think he's quoting someone from Reddit, but I don't care enough to go and check. +--- 57887008 +>>57886735 +https://youtu.be/_bpS-cOBK6Q [Embed] +--- 57887029 +>>57880942 +>>57886961 +The original pixel camo was for vehicles. +--- 57887039 +>>57880750 +I don't care how it gets done, I'll pay someone to make it a skin and wear it to battles +--- 57887049 +>>57881050 +bro I have 2000 hours and I've been only playing since last year.. you sure as shit aren't "old guard" with 2k +--- 57887072 +>>57887049 +Old guard is a title you get for having an account made in 2013. +t. old guard +--- 57887114 +>>57880942 +vehicle pixel camo actually makes a lot more sense than on infantry camo. It's very disruptive and effective at combat distance due to the larger scale +--- 57887149 +>>57880531 +>The USMC conducted their own objective trials on MARPAT and found that it outperformed Olive Drab in detection taking more than 3 times longer to detect and once detected just over 2.5 times longer to identify the target. The same study also showed that the digital pattern outperformed the NATO camouflage (used to camouflage vehicles and similar to the U.S. BDU Woodland pattern) – in both detection and identification. +--- 57887162 +>>57886961 +This is incorrect. Digital pixel camos for infants use are printed exactly the same. they aren't "randomized" that's just fuddlore + +same with any NATO vehicle camo. It's identical between vehicles +--- 57887249 +>>57887162 +infantry* rather +--- 57887323 +>>57883902 +Based, IFVs are the only acceptable response to pyramid schemes +--- 57887361 +>>57881770 +Are they supposed to wobble so much? +--- 57887480 +>>57880210 (OP) +How do they paint camo onto vehicles anyway? I figure for digicam it's just a matter of moving some stencils around the bodywork and using a few cans of differently coloured spraypaint, but it seems like a real pain in the arse. Is that why you don't really see vehicular camo from before the last ~20 years, because the designs were too complicated to paint without too much effort? +--- 57887516 +>>57880210 (OP) +I really REALLY like it. +--- 57887546 +>>57887480 +Camo is meant to diffuse moving targets. They might look stupid being stationary but on the move it just works. Same with combat uniforms. +--- 57887578 +>>57887049 +>2000 hours and doesn't know what old guard title is +--- 57887606 +>>57887480 +nowadays, at least for NATO, they are painted by specialist contractors. Last I checked they use film stencils cut from a file provided by the manufacturer, and then use airbrushing. + +Back in the cold was they mainly used hand drawn chalk stencils, and on the future I can imagine they'll eventually start using a laser templater +--- 57887694 +>>57883541 +Yuo are dumb dumb +--- 57887709 +>>57880819 +MOAR BRICK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa +--- 57887941 +>>57887606 +Another method is the old stencil on overhead projector than chalk outline. Also works for hangar door art. +--- 57888053 +>>57880210 (OP) +It's kind of useless unless texture is added. +--- 57888670 +>>57880210 (OP) +It reminds me of when I was a kid and I used to act out battles with my legos, pretending the individual bricks were tanks and so on. +--- 57888698 +>>57888306 +Look at all that not hitting a fucking thing after a few rounds. +Did Ruger work on them? +--- 57889293 +>>57881563 +While true, you still do NOT want to be that guy. +--- 57889336 +>>57885146 +God I hope I know that someday. +--- 57889477 +>>57888306 +Literally just scattershooting because their stabilizers suck so hard. Russia is a disgrace +--- 57889609 +>>57880531 +>is it just easier to apply? +it's better than nothing and yes, easy to apply +--- 57889685 +>>57888306 +I've only ever seen footage of BMPTs firing wildly into forests. +--- 57889875 +>>57883923 +>get gun that actually works +>no one domestically loads ammo for it and you’re under severe sanctions +Such is life +--- 57889940 +>>57889685 +That, or them being blown up diff --git a/k/57880297.txt b/k/57880297.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f7066a2b6393071b83cdbd053df095c3ff91e823 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57880297.txt @@ -0,0 +1,329 @@ +----- +--- 57880297 +>these are the people saying you have a small dick for liking guns +--- 57880308 +>>57880297 (OP) +me on the right +--- 57880324 +Yet you both shill for Ukraine. +--- 57880328 +>>57880297 (OP) + +the jews are just placing any hot button between them and the whites looking for justice +--- 57880419 +>>57880325 +Uncanny +--- 57880643 +>>57880297 (OP) +>these are the people saying you have a small dick for liking guns +OP if you care in any capacity about this sort of thing that is the essence of small dick energy. +--- 57880690 +>>57880297 (OP) +The world would be better off if it were legal to club these abominations to death in the street. +--- 57880751 +>>57880297 (OP) +Tee hee why are you so obsessed with us right wingers? +--- 57881062 +>>57880308 +Mrcrummy? +--- 57881079 +>>57880751 +I get the same feeling as watching gore. It’s a horror I can’t describe. Like blasphemy manifest in mockery of Gods creation. +--- 57881088 +>>57880297 (OP) +And you decided to prove them wrong by getting upset on the internet? +--- 57881091 +>>57881088 +this +OP has small dick energy for sure +--- 57881111 +>>57880297 (OP) +>implying these things are people +--- 57881124 +>>57880297 (OP) +Why does this flamer mindbreak people so hard, I didn’t even see him until /pol/fags started having a breakdown over him. I don’t use tik tok though +--- 57881196 +Literally, who? Why is this here? +--- 57881208 +>>57880297 (OP) +>/k/ - Closeted /pol/ troons seething about IRL troons +--- 57881274 +"the last time I used my dick on some guy trying to rob my house, the police were pretty upset with me." +--- 57881285 +>>57880643 +>>57880297 (OP) +>>57881091 +I have a massive cock yet am still insecure about it, longer than the slide on my Glock 17 +I've always wondered if I should just take a picture of it to win arguments with shitlibs, "WHAT AM I COMPENSATING FOR HUH" +--- 57881290 +>>57881285 +Yeah you should. +--- 57881302 +>>57880297 (OP) +Average American males only more pale + + I heard Jorge washington sucked french dick +--- 57881314 +>>57881079 +Man made horrors beyond your comprehension and so on + +When they stop being the current thing Normies use to purity test and virtue signal to eachother, and the attention ceases, then finally we’ll be free from the troons + +No exaggeration, when I first heard about Dylan Mulvaney and watched his “day 1 of being a girl” vlog, I genuinely thought this guy was a god tier troll. “Day 1 of being a girl, I already cried uncontrollably for 2 hours over nothing, bought something I can’t afford on credit, etc” (paraphrased) Like he’s just roasting women. Then he went and got surgery and I’m like fuck, this guy is for real, he is THAT far gone. +--- 57881335 +>>57880297 (OP) +I'm calling bullshit, there's no fucking way these people are trans. Motherfuckers haven't touched a drop of estrogen, the one on the right literally has a Norwood 2 hairline and a 5 o'clock shadow. Absolutely taking the piss. +--- 57881344 +>>57881285 +I lost a twitter account once doing that. I'm 7 inches which is hardly massive but still well above average. So I took a timestamped pic with a ruler and told them to put up or shut up. + +Took twitter a full day to take it down though. In the meantime the guy did not put up or shut up but instead started coping about how he meant it "philosophically". +--- 57881360 +>>57881344 +I'll take things that never happened for 200 +--- 57881473 +>>57881335 +--- 57881480 +>>57881335 +>there's no fucking way these people are trans +That's what 9/10 trans look like. When a man's mental illness is unleashed on the world, it's never going to look good. +--- 57881610 +>>57881335 +>You have to take cross sex hormones to be trans +>Cross sex hormones are magic +Well you're retarded because you aren't consistent with your own stupid ideology and you're fucking stupid because you think some 30 year old twink taking estrogen is gonna do anything besides raise his risk for cancer and blood clots +--- 57881619 +>>57880297 (OP) +--- 57881695 +>>57880297 (OP) +I have a 9 inch dick and a 14 inch barrel +--- 57881882 +>>57881473 +>Lower than average IQ +>Often pass +>Literally bimbofication +Holy shit +>>57880297 (OP) +>The one on the right has more curves +Lol +--- 57881960 +i dont care. this is just their version of YWNBAW. +--- 57881988 +>>57881079 +Doesnt help that he looks like a psychopath +--- 57882003 +>>57881285 +Why cares? The reason they resort to "you have a small cock" is because they have zero legitimate arguments to make anymore, it's an admission they've lost, there's no point in continuing the argument because they're doing the adult equivalent of covering their ears and screaming "LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING LA LA LA!" +--- 57882057 +>>57881335 +estrogen isn't going to change bone structure, male pattern baldness, Adam's apple, or hand/feet size so they will always obviously be male in appearance despite whatever drug regimen they are on +--- 57882091 +>>57882003 +Exactly. And It’s usually women who will resort to attacks on sexual market value. It’s the female equivalent of me just punching you in the Face. But you can’t punch people online, so men resort to small dick/incel accusations too. Deep down, everybody, especially women, knows that at the end of the day sexual market value is everything, and that’s why attacking it makes for such an effective insult and causes such great injury. +--- 57882129 +>>57880297 (OP) +Most of the trans I've known owned and operated firearms. Only actual retards are against guns, irrespective of whatever they do to get their rocks off or get other people to want to get their rocks off to them. +--- 57882165 +>>57881360 +NTA but in a similar boat. I've challenged people IRL to a dickdown over this shit and for w/e reason the people who want to say you have a small dick never can prove they have a big one. +--- 57882168 +>>57882091 +Well men in the west have adopted female thinking, and have largely capitulated to female desires. Sexual market value is only a thing in a society dominated by women. Men in our society are always trying to appeal to the eternal mommy for a crumb of the pussi, they have become the eternal simp. +Listening to the opinions of faggot simp male bitchboys, or their whore mommies is a pretty pointless endeavor. If you are immune to sexual marketplace shaming then these people have zero power over you or your thoughts. +--- 57882267 +>>57880297 (OP) +>you have a small dick for liking guns +Yes... Yes I Do. +I like guns also but... can't afford any. +I have 13 children. +--- 57883245 +>>57880325 +>>57880419 +More uncanny when you take into account that Keitel is an actor who specializes in playing morally ambiguous character. +--- 57883268 +They should know, it basically lives in their mouths +--- 57883412 +>>57880297 (OP) +I remember hearing it starts with tolerance and ends with punishment for not being fervently supportive, state enforced homosex soon +--- 57883855 +>>57880297 (OP) +Reminder that a tranny went to war to defend Ukraine while the average /k/ "two weeks" spammer is a fatass virgin that has convinced himself that he's owning the vatniks by spamming the same memes over and over again. + +A tranny is more respectable than most of /k/ +--- 57883910 +>>57883855 +>Tranny attempts suicide +wow breaking news everyone +--- 57883946 +>>57881335 +This is what 90% of them look like +--- 57883959 +>>57881473 +desu I'd bang all the trannies on the right +--- 57883960 +>>57883946 +LMAO, its more like 99.99% +--- 57883981 +>>57883910 +Proof you can be a vatnik shill and still be funny +--- 57883989 +>>57880297 (OP) +Anon, those aren't even people. +--- 57883999 +>>57880297 (OP) +>Click over from /lgbt/ +>See the exact same photo +Convinced that most of you who seethe about trannies actually post there. +--- 57884102 +>>57883981 +Because only Russians hate trannies +--- 57884123 +>>57883960 +More of them now are like Jazz where they're just adult children now, so Id say its like 90% hons 10% zoomers turned into weird eunuchs +--- 57884170 +>>57883999 +4chan doesn't understand that being anti-anti-tranny just makes you look tranny, tranny +--- 57884361 +>>57881480 +>>57881610 +No, you don't get it. It's not a matter of whether or not they have taken it at all (although yeah, contrary to polnigger talking points, it does help), it's the fact that they obviously look male and are still wearing the most hyperfeminine shit possible with zero sense of self-awareness. People with dysphoria are barely able to look in the fucking mirror at that stage, you expect me to believe these people have that? Fuck off. +--- 57884549 +>>57883999 +go back you faggot +--- 57884571 +>>57881111 +>picrel +--- 57884627 +>>57880297 (OP) +Dollar tree Ted Bundy on the left looks like he wants to peel off my face and wear it as a mask. +--- 57884777 +>>57881473 +The one on the top far right is not a tranny lol +--- 57884792 +>>57880297 (OP) +Can we ban Russian from posting here plese +--- 57884815 +>>57880324 +Did you know that trannies breathe oxygen? It's time to stop supporting globohomo tactics and wring your neck from a tree. +--- 57884817 +>>57881473 +is this some strange new form of cuckoldry? +>they're real women if I want to fuck them +>if I don't want to fuck them then they're just smarter than I am +--- 57884860 +>>57880297 (OP) +The guy on the right looks like he could’ve been an extra in a movie. Guy on the left just looks like your average crazy white guy who talks about trees a lot +--- 57884877 +>>57881335 +I can smell the makeup from here +--- 57884881 +>These are the people saying you're based for liking guns +--- 57884895 +>>57883855 +lol stfu faggot no one cares +--- 57884907 +>>57884895 +>lol stfu faggot no one cares +--- 57884959 +>>57880297 (OP) +these are the people that ban you for saying anything critical about the ukraine war +--- 57884969 +>>57884907 +>I have no argument so I'll say you like russia +lol nice try, I fucking hate all slavs +--- 57885016 +>>57884969 +Damn anon, even the Czechs? +--- 57885400 +>>57882003 +I don't want people around me knowing or thinking that I have a small one. They say it not just because they don't have another argument, they say it because it is important for men. +--- 57885429 +>>57880297 (OP) +I would hope they would know, its in their mouths like all the time +--- 57885446 +>>57883999 +it's almost like there are various hostile third parties that like to use this site as a springboard for their abortive psychological warfare programs because you don't need an account and they can't moderate the discussion effectively. it's almost like there's a particular narrative they're trying to create by stirring up negative partisanship on sites like this. it's almost as if the constant, incessant twitter screenshot spam is essentially missionary work aimed at so-called "neats" who're attempting to drop out of civil society. it's almost as if i'm gay and my dick is small so you should suck my balls bababooey style like animal fries on tom on jerry bussin as fuck for realreal +--- 57885641 +>>57884361 +Most men have enough common sense left in them to be disgusted with themselves for making a mockery of themselves. +>estrogen helps +No it really doesn't +--- 57885718 +>>57880297 (OP) +>strong chin and jaw +>wide shoulders +>tranny +why the fuck does this happen so much? meanwhile i'm some skinnyfat jawlet with wide hips and a pube beard and the furthest thing from my mind is wearing a dress and chopping my dick off +i'd fucking kill for those genes +--- 57885722 +>>57880297 (OP) +dylan is a horrifying baffling skinwalker with too many teeth. i'm trans and not convinced he is. his dad's side of the family is full of CIA-connected creeps. this motherfucker came out of nowhere and is suddenly everywhere, meeting with the president, making that horrible face. he got facial feminization surgery *before* getting sufficient laser hair removal/electrolysis. i don't fucking trust it bros + +>>57880751 +most natural crypto-jew smile +--- 57885757 +>>57884571 +dilate +--- 57885792 +>>57880297 (OP) +I'd pound both their bussies ngl +*sucks teeth* +--- 57885795 +>>57881062 +Wow did the dogfucker die or something? +You just reminded me I haven't seen his latest trip in a while. +--- 57885802 +>>57885718 +incels are born as pugs, trans women are born as dire-wolves. seethe +--- 57885928 +>>57885802 +>trans women are born as dire-wolves +Bound for extinction? +--- 57885960 +being trans just means you're a feminine man or a masculine woman. it doesnt make you a man or a woman. trannys need to chill.. anorexic people aren't fat because they feel like it. +--- 57886004 +>>57884877 +reddit +--- 57886104 +>>57880297 (OP) +Did Richard D. James design them? +--- 57886157 +>>57881344 +Kek I did that with my physique once. +--- 57886169 +>>57885928 +okay i walked right into that one gj +--- 57886186 +>>57886169 +Are you the tranny anon that posts camouflage sometimes? +--- 57886212 +>>57886169 +gob job? +--- 57886216 +>>57885722 +i'm sorry you got goomed by jews and faggots, hope you recover and detransition soon before any permanent side effects kick in +--- 57886292 +>>57885641 +>No it really doesn't +And what experience are you talking from? +--- 57886469 +>>57885016 +I'm sure some are alright, but it's hard to trust slavs +--- 57887689 +I'd fuck em +With a condom tho, they look like some gas station cum rags +--- 57887702 +>>57880297 (OP) +>You walk into a Berlin night club circa 1930 +--- 57887704 +>>57880324 +You are as fucked in the head as them +Jesus man. +--- 57887736 +>>57881079 +>I get the same feeling as watching gore +an erection? +--- 57888501 +>>57882168 +>If you are immune to sexual marketplace shaming then these people have zero power over you or your thoughts +My autism has immunized me against all dangers diff --git a/k/57880662.txt b/k/57880662.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..305de6d3e2d93059e85639a39db473474d374e96 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57880662.txt @@ -0,0 +1,393 @@ +----- +--- 57880662 +How would you defend yourself in this situation? + +Can you even defend yourself or is it too late? +--- 57880668 +>>57880662 (OP) +Bro drive what the fuck are you standing there for letting the crack head stab you +--- 57880687 +>>57880668 +Are you dumb? Cyclops got a good hold on the passenger. Flooring it will just enrage him and stab the passenger +--- 57880813 +>>57880687 +Better one trailing slash then 5 good stabs +--- 57880814 +If you're within stabbing range then you've already lost. Dont listen to what martial arts frauds tell you. Actual real martial artists will tell you it doesn't matter what technique they teach you to disarm or disable an assailant with a knife. You're probably still getting stabbed. +You'll never see a version of HEMA with knives because they know both participants are going to hit eachother every time +--- 57880834 +>>57880662 (OP) +>How would you defend yourself in this situation? +Don't roll down your fucking window to a crackhead in the first fucking place +--- 57880943 +>>57880662 (OP) +Use a gun, and if that don't work, use more gun. +--- 57881032 +>>57880834 +This. If you're getting stabbed it means you've already made a bunch of mistakes +--- 57881037 +There are schools of martial arts that train for fighting in cars. One place said they had to switch to already broken cars because they were destroying the ones they were training in. +Seriously, though, pin the arm, roll up the window, floor the pedal and wipe the cunt out on a street sign. +The specific styles that would work best here are Krav Maga, maybe Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, failing a little Kali training and a knife of your own to stick in his good eye. +But yes, driver should have driven off, passenger should have had his window shut, should have been carrying a gun, should have been paying attention and never let him get that close. +--- 57881042 +>>57880943 +based practical problem solver +--- 57881267 +>>57880662 (OP) +Keep the window closed, if that fails use gun. It's not hard. +--- 57881354 +>>57880662 (OP) +Way too late to do anything but pray the crackhead decides not to stab you. Even if the driver takes off the passenger is still going to get stabbed at least once in the worst possible place to get stabbed (around the neck/in upper chest if not in the fuckin face) and probably would get stabbed if the driver even made a move for the shifter to put it in drive. The best thing to do would've been to not stop and roll down the window next to a crackhead, the second best thing would've been to not put the vehicle in park if you're going to roll down the window and stop next to a crackhead. +--- 57881356 +>>57880662 (OP) +just hit em with the uhhhhhhh +--- 57881417 +Lets say i cant reach for my gun, +>turn wheel left +>put in reverse +>floor it +>stop +>get out of vehicle confront man with gun +--- 57881428 +>>57880662 (OP) +slit his carotid artery with my knife and put some distance between me and him while he bleeds to death in less than 15 seconds. +--- 57881521 +>>57880662 (OP) +once he stabs my passenger, I draw my gun and administer a contact shot to his forehead +--- 57881530 +>>57881521 +This is why you don't have friends +--- 57881546 +>>57880662 (OP) +his first mistake was he relaxed around blacks, second mistake neither he nor the driver has a gun to blast his head of the second he doesnt pay attention to both of them +--- 57881561 +>>57881546 +>relaxed around blacks +I doubt it, everyone there is black, and very tense. +--- 57881582 +>AMATERATSU! +There. +--- 57881611 +>>57880662 (OP) +I would simply not go around niggers or their kin. +--- 57881640 +>>57881530 +he won't be my friend if he knows I'm carrying and didn't do anything to help him not get fucking stabbed retard +--- 57881656 +>>57880814 +>You'll never see a version of HEMA with knives because they know both participants are going to hit eachother every time +Wrong and incorrect +https://youtu.be/YEUVz5Ws8wk [Embed] +>b-but in a knife fight both people get stabbed +I’ll never understand this defeatist attitude. Just because you’re likely to get hurt doesn’t mean that it’s a definite and certainly doesn’t mean you should resign yourself to death. Plenty of people have fought back against knives and come away with either minor injuries or completely unscathed. +https://youtu.be/YWTsM_YUOrQ [Embed] +--- 57881713 +>>57880662 (OP) +>1. control knife-hand wrist +>2. place your other hand over the knife hand +>3. roll your hand over their fist to flex their wrist in toward their forearm while working your fingers into their grip - which should weaken as you flex their wrist more +4. grip the knife and continue to flex their wrist until it breaks or they release their grip on the handle +>alternatively grab the knife and torque it down against their thumb like a lever - you will cut your hand +--- 57881727 +>>57881561 +Still lackin' though. +--- 57881731 +>>57880662 (OP) +Grab the hand with the knife +Wrestle +Then stand on his head until he stops breathing +--- 57881740 +Crackheads bro cornpop gonna get ya +--- 57881748 +>>57880814 +Dude just disarm him +--- 57881751 +>>57881740 +Man looks rough this is tragic really +--- 57881758 +>>57880662 (OP) +>interacting with these people + +this is the first problem +--- 57881974 +>>57881751 +I'm long done sparing pity for these people. Just start running them over late at night. +--- 57882059 +>>57880662 (OP) +That Device from /k/ anon, which he installed in his car to cut legs of dangerous strangers. +--- 57882071 +>>57881974 +You are just crazy bro +--- 57882081 +>>57881974 +Only if they glow in the dark. I’ve heard you can just hit those ones with your car. +--- 57882083 +>>57880687 +Ah yes let's just sit there and get stabbed multiple times instead. +Floor it retard and get to hospital quick. +--- 57882100 +Story? Was this random or some score settling? +--- 57882102 +>>57882083 +At least try to deescalate the situation first +--- 57882113 +>>57880662 (OP) +>Can you even defend yourself? +its all about preparation and awareness +>don't live in nigzone MLK Blvd downtown USA +>roll your windows up +>give yourself an out at all times, be prepared to leave quickly +>carry a firearm +>be white +its really that simple +--- 57882115 +>>57882102 +Deescalate? Waiting for it to deescalate got this guy a knife on his throat. +If they floored it the instant they saw the knife he's probably get off with a mild wound. +--- 57882154 +>>57882115 +They clearly knew the guy and that's why they stopped and rolled the window down. They wouldn't do that for some random one-eyed crackhead. +--- 57882171 +>>57882100 +Not sure but here's the vid with sound + +https://files.catbox.moe/jmraqh.mp4 +--- 57882179 +>>57882154 +you'd think people wouldn't be that stupid, but... +--- 57882185 +>>57882071 +NTA +I'm in LA the amount of stereotype bleeding heart liberals that I hear openly talk about running them over or leaving out rat poised food should have triggered a bunch of red flags and open investigations. Shits on average edgier than a school shooters manifesto. People are that tired of it I guess. +--- 57882262 +>>57882171 +I thought the audio would give some sort of context but I literally can’t understand anything. It might as well be a foreign language. +--- 57882294 +>>57882171 +Thanks buddy +--- 57882371 +>>57880662 (OP) +>How would you defend yourself in this situation? + +What do you mean 'in this situation'? Why is there a nigger in your window in the first place? How did that happen? Is that normal? +--- 57882379 +>>57881428 +>slit his carotid artery with my knife + +dont forget to discombobulate +--- 57882429 +>enter the crackheads mind now that he's entered my psychic aura +>use my extensive knowledge of the human brain to take control over his body +>force him to slit his own throat +Easy. +--- 57883484 +>>57880662 (OP) +Driver's job is easy here. +>get out, hopefully putting his attention on you +>if you have not sufficiently distracted him, use the nigger word for guaranteed aggro +>now that your passenger is out of the direct line of fire and hopefully outside of stab range, draw and shoot until cessation of all bodily function +--- 57883903 +>>57880662 (OP) +>relaxing around underprivileged folx +1. shiggy +2. diggy +--- 57884025 +>>57880687 +He ain't gonna be stabbing anybody when he has to drop the knife in order to use both hands to either grab and hold on or break his fall on the ground. Flooring the car is definitely the best option. Maybe if you're lucky, he will fall to the ground while holding his knife, land on the blade, and stab himself. Two birds with one stone! +--- 57884044 +>>57880662 (OP) +I'll start by charging my fucking phone. +--- 57884063 +>>57880662 (OP) +Damn the dude with the knife looks different man. He has a "are my bullets even gonna work" aura about him +--- 57884077 +>>57881356 +What the fuck was that, space laser? +--- 57884082 +>>57881356 +Wtf happened here? Source? +--- 57884096 +>>57880662 (OP) +Based on the people in this video, I'd pop the trunk unleashing my murder-bull. +--- 57884099 +>>57882185 +Lmao, well, they reap what they sow +Maybe in 50 years CA will go full Hitler mode from all of the cali locusts fleeing, and the remainers being forcefed blackpills for too long +--- 57884124 +>>57884077 +>>57884082 +It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes. +--- 57884137 +>>57880662 (OP) +>Lowering the window for a fucking crackhead +I wouldn't have such retarded friends/family members in the first place +--- 57884145 +>>57880662 (OP) +Give a good ol' fashioned JUDY CHOP! +--- 57884161 +>>57880662 (OP) +the fuck? +--- 57884162 +>>57884077 +>>57884082 +Disintegrated by directed energy weapon +--- 57884194 +>>57881656 +>friend gets attacked with knife +>record and watch as he's using one arm to hold the knife away from him +Nonwhites. +--- 57884223 +>>57884194 +The person recording is someone standing outside of the car you fucking retard +--- 57884301 +>>57881748 +Is that a real stabbing or fake +--- 57884396 +>>57884301 +Fake, it’s a demonstration of how holding your coat in front of you to catch a knife doesn’t actually work. Wrapping your coat around your wrist to give yourself a sort of cloth shielded forearm is actually a good idea though. +--- 57884784 +>>57881356 +This is why I EDC a Hammer of Dawn targeting laser +--- 57884821 +>>57880662 (OP) +I wouldn't open the window +--- 57884842 +>>57880662 (OP) +>be around crackheads +>window open +lol no +--- 57884846 +>>57881356 +This video is like a decade old and I still don’t know if it’s real or not, and if so then how +--- 57884852 +>>57884082 +I wouldn’t worry about it +--- 57884887 +>>57880662 (OP) + +What brand of knife of knife is that?? +--- 57884991 +>>57880662 (OP) +Don't roll down your windows around blacks +--- 57885259 +>>57884846 +Guy had a bunch of magnetrons stripped out from old microwaves hooked up to a capacitor array. Apparently it horribly burned the driver as well. +--- 57885281 +>>57881546 +It appears everyone in that video is black. Man it must be stressful being black, you can't relax even when you're alone because you will always be around blacks +--- 57885296 +>>57881561 +You'd think blacks if anyone should know +--- 57885471 +when niggers are found relaxing by other niggers, it is said that they were slipping. +--- 57885596 +>>57884784 +based Gear +--- 57886182 +>>57885471 +I read this in David Attenborough's voice +--- 57886321 +>>57880662 (OP) +1. Do not ever lower your window down enough that someone can thrust their entire body into the car that way. They have to break your window first and that will draw attention to the scene. + +2. Always lock your car doors no matter if you're parked in a lot or stopped at a stop sign. Double check constantly. + +3. Pocket carry locked and loaded. Don't carry in a style that will require you to rack the slide. If you're in a volatile situation like this, those 2 seconds are a matter of life and death. + +4. Never carry in the waist band. While you're fumbling around in your pants, the negroid knows what you are doing because he's a criminal himself. + +5. Fire on the negroid until he flees your car. Drive away to the police station and tell them what happened. +--- 57886368 +>>57880662 (OP) +Shoot him in the face and drive away +--- 57886372 +>>57881417 +>>turn wheel left +>>put in reverse +>>floor it +>>stop +>>get out of vehicle confront man with gun + +isn't that just revenge at that point? you've escaped the situation and you're no longer in danger. Why get back out of your car to shoot at him? just leave and call the police. maybe monitor him from a distance so he doesn't target others. +--- 57886592 +>>57884082 +>>57884846 +It's from a shitty ayyy film starring Mila Jovovich or whatever that bitch with gumdrop nipples name is +--- 57886991 +>>57880662 (OP) +The moment you come out of the womb and gaze your beady little eyes down upon your black skin it is already too late anon. +--- 57887033 +Black people need to also not relax around blacks +--- 57887105 +>>57886592 + +Don't knock my stacked-crunchberry nippled queen! +--- 57888529 +>>57880662 (OP) +black culture is really weird. if the driver shot him because of this, the knife wielder's family would come after you and call you an asshole. they would say you overreacted. +--- 57888553 +>>57880662 (OP) +>think about defending self +>defend self +>dindu is weak and dies from blood loss +>get arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit murder and murder +>at better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 + +Yea... You're fucked both ways to Sunday no matter what you do. +--- 57888559 +>>57881356 +man, I wouldn't fuck with nerve gas, that shit is scary +--- 57888626 +>>57888553 +With video evidence like this literally no jury would convict someone for defending themselves, not even in complete liberal shitholes. It helps them that they're all black. +--- 57889030 +>>57885281 +Blacks is plural, so you can relax when you're by yourself. +--- 57889224 +>>57884396 +>Wrapping your coat around your wrist to give yourself a sort of cloth shielded forearm is actually a good idea though. +This. +French police did statistical studies on how much martial arts could help in an assault situation. They figured out being an expert in a stabbing situation (or, as they say, "armes blanches") gave you about 5~8% chances of coming out on top, going from 95% to ~90% chance you get seriously fucked. +Otherwise, the other issue is that it only takes one cut at the wrong place to kill you on the way to the hospital. If you are unarmed against a knife user, one "good" thing you can do is block with the outward of your arms. You can supposedly get cut without end on the section between your wrists and your elbow, as long as its on the outside. When I was young there was this case were a man got attacked and blocked over 30 cuts with his arms, all non-lethal, but sadly got killed because one got on the inside and he bled out. Wrapping a leather coat around your arm is a good way to minimize this from happening. +--- 57889259 +They have the right idea in South Africa. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLhWzMOccTg [Embed] +--- 57889352 +>>57880662 (OP) +Keep my head low for two months until that psycho is either killed or sent back to prison. +--- 57889401 +>>57880662 (OP) +Looks like he stabbed in the first few seconds, like he donkey Kong slam into his chest with the blade. +--- 57890438 +>>57880662 (OP) +that guy would be a great GTA villain, with the fucked up eye and everything. +--- 57890671 +>>57885281 +>>57889030 +kek +--- 57890819 +>>57882185 +No sympathy for people in California. You got exactly what you wished for. Stay the fuck out of my state +--- 57890823 +>>57880662 (OP) +If I'm the passenger, I've got my right hand on my own knife. +I don't win a stab-off, so probably just keep a hair trigger ready to go at his forearm. +Probably get stabbed before gaining control, but at least it's a light at the end of the tunnel. +--- 57890826 +>>57880662 (OP) +Im sorry sir I wasnt looking at you +--- 57891147 +>>57881037 +https://youtu.be/Am9H1KMpNz4 [Embed] +--- 57891208 +>>57884846 +totally real +happens all the time +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZjZbJuhPAo [Embed] +--- 57891248 +>>57889224 +Damn son +--- 57891478 +>>57880662 (OP) +I'll blow his balls off. diff --git a/k/57881625.txt b/k/57881625.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f522fefb29dba427cb4f1e2fb4c1c3c2b2729dc2 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57881625.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1498 @@ +----- +--- 57881625 +Lets say the South seceded again, right now, and they did so with massive public support from their population. What would be their military strategy for securing independence? + +(This is not a politics thread. I'm not asking whether they should, just how the military planning side of things might go. Please refrain from shitflinging over politics.) +--- 57881635 +they'd lose again. +--- 57881646 +>>57881625 (OP) +>This is not a politics thread +You know what you’re doing you bitch +--- 57881674 +>>57881646 +I'd genuinely like to know how a civil war in a nuclear armed super power would go. Currently, the US is the only nuclear armed superpower, so it was the only choice for a hypothetical. +--- 57881689 +>>57881635 +You didn't answer the question though. I asked what their strategy would be, not whether they would win. +--- 57881831 +>This is not a politics thread. I'm not asking whether they should, just how the military planning side of things might go. Please refrain from shitflinging over politics. +And none of that is actually about weapons +--- 57881844 +>>57881831 +How is military strategy not related to weapons? +--- 57881995 +>>57881625 (OP) +>steal nuclear weapons undergoing maintenance at the PANTEX plant +>they've presumably had their PAL devices removed +>install custom-built detonators in them that bypass PAL +>threaten to use them on Washington DC and other major cities if the US Government doesn't immediately withdraw from the Confederate States and recognize its independence +>go the opposite direction of Ukraine and immediately get to work on constructing a permanent nuclear deterrent +--- 57882070 +>>57881995 +Are there really no nuclear devices aactually stationed in the south, or are ones undergoing maintenance just preferrable? +--- 57882086 +>>57881625 (OP) +>and they did so with massive public support from their population +You sound foreign. Those overall state maps hide that most states are split near 50/50 or maybe 60/40. Even reliably "red" states still have millions of blues, particular in cities. There are US military and natguard bases everywhere. There isn't any sort of unified elite leadership and information control. Situation is nothing like the 1860s. + +So frankly it's just so impossible that yes it's a politics thread OP, politics is utterly inseparable from a war like that, military power would merely be another aspect of statecraft. Politics would determine little things like where the actual US Military was. Is it a sympathetic or hostile person in the White House? Who controls Congress? Under what cause is this supposed secession happening, and how does that depress, leave ambivalent, or rally opinion on the rest of the country and abroad? To what extent is it detected ahead of time? + +These aren't little questions you can brush aside, and the military aspects would utterly change depending on what they are. Sorry OP but this just isn't an interesting question it's a Rorschach Test: you can get almost any answer you want depending on what starting parameters you pick, and those have no objective answer. +--- 57882088 +>>57881625 (OP) +In this scenario did the US abandon all of its military bases in the states that seceded? +--- 57882125 +>>57881689 +What strategy? Going on the offensive would be impossible so they'd wait to be attacked. The only problem with that is the attack would come months after a long bombing campaign similar to Iraq 1 and then the they'd get stomped on. +>b-but muh guerilla warfare!!! +This wouldn't happen and even if it did it would be crushed within a year. Guerilla warfare cant succeed in extremely developed places +--- 57882130 +>>57882088 +I imagine not, they didn't the last time. Although if you can think of a reason why they would, I'd like to hear it. I think they might have a problem with army/AF bases defecting or surrendering. +--- 57882169 +>>57881674 +I don't see why a nuclear armed superpower would respond differently to a nuclear armed regional power desu. +In either case they will explore literally every other military option before nuking what they see as their own land. +--- 57882195 +>>57882086 +>No politics +That was mainly just to keep out the "do it again sherman" posters and their "I hate yankees" counterparts, as well as any /pol/-fags. + +>Massive public support +Just some spherical cow logic on my part. I know in a reslistic scenario, every state is more likely to declare war on itself than the federal govt, but we've already seen a million threads on that. What I want to discuss is a theoretical war between the states. So I just hand-waved away any internal conflicts by making the state populaces be on board with their states. +--- 57882209 +>>57882130 + Actually, the Union DID abandon some of its forts in the Confederacy, but not others…notably Fort Sumter. + +When Lincoln needed a casus belli, he gave orders to resupply it rather than evacuate it. + This prompted the South Carolina militia and Confederates to bombard it. + + Frankly, they might have tried blockading it by sinking shills in the approaches to its docks and waiting the Feds out..but then there’s a lot of options both sides didn’t take. +--- 57882225 +>>57882125 +Wouldn't a sort of blitzkrieg to seize military assets be a more viable (relatively speaking) option than just digging in and waiting? The more high end equipment they can seize (F-22s, M1A3s, SAM sites) the better, right? +--- 57882236 +>>57881844 +Military discussions inevitably turn into flag posting shitposts about which side is the bigger pussy or browner. This is the weapons board not a .mil site or another geopolitics dick waving board. If you had asked questions about what weaponry they would use this would still be a shit thread because the military weapons of America have been discussed at length here. +--- 57882247 +>>57882195 +>reslistic +Meant to say realistic +--- 57882256 +>>57882195 +>What I want to discuss is a theoretical war between the states. So I just hand-waved away any internal conflicts by making the state populaces be on board with their states. +Well, you can't. Or I mean, you can but it makes it politics. Since it's a rorschach test it's /pol/, people can and will just say whatever outcome they want. There's honestly just nothing to discuss, because it's all based on a foundation of sand and assumptions. Not saying you were trolling or anything in bad faith, but it's just too nonsensical, like "HOW WOULD WE BEAT DEMON INVADERS!?" Can't formulate any answer without deciding what qualities said invaders have first, and by the same token the answer DEPENDS on said qualities, and there are unlimited possibilities. +--- 57882268 +>>57882169 +The secessionist wouldn't see federal territory as their land though. +--- 57882272 +>>57881625 (OP) +I can't imagine they'd hold out very long. Texas aside, these states are heavily dependent on federal funding and even Texas has to ask for federal aid every time it snows and their power grid goes down. Plus, it's not like during the Civil War when the south was more agrarian. No one's growing their own food or subsistence hunting. Once the shelves at the local Walmart go bare, public support will collapse. +--- 57882279 +Wouldn't the US military just immediately targeted strike the leadership of the rebellion to spare as much damage to infrastructure as possible? + +At that point the South would surrender or descend into a military dictatorship which cuts political support for the entire endeavor and then you get infighting and it's a whole shitshow. + +This isn't the fucking 1800s. The US military can fucking reach out and touch you. +--- 57882281 +>>57882070 +No one can answer your question withoit getting BTFO's, but if you reas what you replied to you'll figure it out. +--- 57882285 +>>57882125 +I don't think this is fair. It'd be more complicated than that. The top five states for most military recruits are 1. Cali 2. Texas 3. Virginia 4. N Carolina 5. Florida. Assuming all the US soldiers in Confederate states would go with their home state it'd mean the Union would have to draft and train troops whereas the Confederacy would start with a roughly equal army as the Union with actual military training. Union would still win like you say but it wouldn't be a one week cakewalk just like in history. +--- 57882293 +>>57881625 (OP) +You need a lot more information for any accurate projections, OP. +>What caused the south to secede? +>What's happening in the rest of the country? Are other parts breaking off? What terrain do they control? What are their aims? Are they willing to side with the secessionists? If not, are the secessionists willing to advance into neighboring states to annex key terrain, even at risk of war? +>Does the federal government even exist any more, and, if so, what terrain does it control? Do the feds even give a shit about the secessionists, or are they too preoccupied with trying to keep everything else from falling apart? +>Do the secessionists have a formal military force or are they irregulars? What are their levels of supply and morale? +>Where are they going to get oil/fuel from? If it's all from Texas, logistics are going to be a pain in the ass to defend. +>How do nukes factor in? Can the secessionists remove the PALs quickly enough to use them as a credible deterrent from enemy attack, or will they have to lie and hope nobody finds out? Would other powers try to call their bluff and attack anyway? How does deterrence work in this scenario? +>What will the rest of the world do? Who will they back? Will they send their own forces to intervene? +Balkanization doesn't happen in a vacuum, and while this isn't nearly an exhaustive list of questions, it should help flesh out the background and worldbuilding, which will in turn dictate military strategies of the newborn states. +>t. trying to write a story on a similar topic +--- 57882315 +>>57882256 +Ok well lets give it some numbers then. The USA government has a congress and white house hostile to the CSA; NATO, Russia, and China refuse to get involved; secession crisis comes fast so the feds are caught flat footed, they barely have time to move troops before the fighting starts. +--- 57882349 +I suspect that you would see many more seceding states than the original. + You would also see parts of states break away and either remain or join the secession. + + Strategy is downstream of politics, so what strategy would be needed would be dependent on how the politics played out. + + I think the wisest course would be to embargo’s United States facilities. No electricity, food, water or fuel, but the people stationed there are free to leave…but not return, + + If the US wants to keep those facilities, they would have to figure out a way to resupply them from the air or by sea, and that can be passively interfered with. + + United States citizens who would rather switch allegiances to the new nation would be welcome to immigrate if they couldn’t swing their counties to secede from US states and join the new country. + + People in the new country with loyalty to thenUS would be encouraged and allowed to emigrate. + All of this would have to be done, for a while at least, of peaceable national divorce. + + Of prime importance would be establishing, protecting and promoting economic growth and a severing of US media from media sources in the new nation. + + The idea here would be to induce further US populations to abandon the US and secede and join themselves and their territories to the new nation. + Build up the new nation’s strength and unique culture, and THEN construct its military. + + Eventually, what you would want to see is a United States that consisted only of an archipelago of heavily populated urban areas and their immediate environs. + Once it gets to that stage, then the embargoes of energy and water and foodstuffs can be imposed, and US citizens remaining can be induced to further emigrate…perhaps to Canada, (if the Leafs are dumb enough to take them), or anywhere, frankly. + Those not smart enough to leave or too stubborn to do so would pay the price when the inevitable rioting begins. +--- 57882358 +Since the starting condition is an impossibility, it's best not to imagine how you could contrive it cause you just look like a lunatic. +--- 57882411 +>>57882070 + +There are plenty of installations housing nuclear warheads in Southern states, mainly Barksdale AFB in Louisiana and Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay in Georgia. Problem is that the entire US nuclear arsenal is protected by Permissive Action Links (PAL), simple computer devices that block the warhead's circuitry to prevent unauthorized use even in the event of theft. PAL devices can only be deactivated (thus making the weapon usable) by entering a 12 digit code and these codes are kept only in the possession of National Command Authority, even the crews aren't told them unless they receive orders to launch. However, PAL devices are usually removed from nuclear weapons during maintenance so theoretically you could steal a bomb from PANTEX (the only location that does weapon assembly and disassembly) and install your own detonator that would bypass PAL completely. +--- 57882423 +The greatest mistake the Confederacy made the last Ike was to remain on a Strategic and Taciical Defensive throughout the war. + + This discounted the political nature of the War, and allowed the Union states the comfort of being able to wage the war on southern soil. + + Had the CSA carried the war into the North, even if only as large scale cavalry raids against industrial and economic targets, many governors would have kept their forces at home to guard the mills rather than march them off to Virginia. + + Therefore, if there is to be fighting, an offensive insurgency on US soil against US industrial, economic and C3I targets is essential, + + We’re already seein the Chinese do it to us via the derailments and the food processing plant fires. +--- 57882448 +Realistically, it wouldn’t be a “North vs South” situation. It’d be a “Cities vs rural” +--- 57882455 +>>57882423 +>was to remain on a Strategic and Taciical Defensive throughout the war. +They fucking didn't. They were actively trying to invade the north to destroy infrastructure throughout the war, harassed DC, and tried to fucking burn down NYC. You ignorant fuckwit. They were just fucking unsuccessful cause they sucked. +--- 57882485 +>>57882455 +> tried to fucking burn down NYC +And we’ll do it again! +--- 57882494 +>>57881625 (OP) +The primary objectives would be to +>1 Secure international recognition. +The smart money would be China, not Russia. +>2 Secure military bases, especially any with nuclear arms. +A critical step. I don't know if any nuclear arms are in this region, tho. The Nuclear Sponge strategy had our nukes in the less densely inhabited areas of the Rocky Mountain and Great Plains regions. +Gaining weapons and retaining competent military personnel (at least bright enough to operate equipment) is especially important. +>3 Secure highways, roads, airports and shipyards. +You have to be able to control these grounds in order to be operational. +This has always been the case. +This scenario assumes widespread regional support. +As long as this support can be maintained the CSA will win, as we saw in Vietnam and Afghanistan. +--- 57882555 +>>57882279 +>This isn't the fucking 1800s. The US military can fucking reach out and touch you. +Just like they reached out and touched Ho Chi Mihn or Haibatullah Akhundzada. +I how know how much Union bois love to fellate the feds, but reality doesn't work the way you'd like and the enemy is seldom cooperative. +--- 57882561 +>>57881625 (OP) +I would frame it as: + +the south has seceded from the union, it wants independence and considers former border territories as apart of its rightful domain. + +>public support in unions states is 100% pro-union +>public support in border states is 60% pro union, 40% secessionist. +>public support in former secessionist territories is 60% secessionist 40% non-participation (did not declare for secession) +>public support in secessionist states is 100% secessionist +>public support in non existent states is 60% pro-union 40% non-participation (did not voice support against secession) + +personal rules: +at 80% support a state will declare for a particular movement. factions are union, secessionist, non-participation (union), and independent rebellion (other). + +at the present board state I will assume that the national guards happen to all be within their states and that secessionist military officers were able to cease union military bases in the confederacy without much hassle. the union is believed to have suffered no catastrophic actions during the secession other than skirmishes between troops in and near confederate held territory. thus giving a clear causus belli. + +the first move the union would make would be to move vital assets out of pro-secessionist union states and secure the loss of any technology in the south. the south would opt to start a insurgency campaign to steal said resources in an effort to bolster its forces. + +the above would happen over about a week with enough confusion that no one could establish any type of operational security to safely gain air dominance. the Navy excluding those harbored in the confederacy would establish a wait and see approach and opt to not engage due to confusion caused by the sudden change of many of its serviceman's status into "born in a secessionist state." to prevent a collapse of naval command the larger navy would opt to harbor in foreign nations and perform a "roll-call" to root out traitors. +--- 57882593 +Coal thread +--- 57882663 +What happened this time? +--- 57882689 +>>57882279 +But the South would have access to modern missiles, aircraft, and air defenses as well. This isn't cleetus and the boys declaring their trailer park an independent nation, this is a large, heavily armed, breakaway state. +--- 57882703 +>>57882689 +And how would they get them, retard? +--- 57882709 +>>57882555 +Ho Chi Minh wasn't the sole political leader of North Vietnam, killing him wouldn't have necessarily improved the fucking situation, and that shit was half a fucking century ago. And Haibatullah is half a fucking world away not inside the god damn USA trying to govern part of it. The USA got 48 of the deck of 52, you fucking idiot. The second war were declared, they'd just fucking bomb the fucking building they were doing it from. Getting a bomb to TN wherever is gonna take a lot less damn time than getting it to fucking Afghanistan. +--- 57882714 +>>57882663 +Nothing, just wanted to think about a hypothetical interesting conflict, rather than just more slavball. +--- 57882716 +>>57882703 +They already have them? +--- 57882755 +>>57881689 +get fucked and die, what else? an insurgency??? lmao okay bubba +--- 57882774 +>>57882716 +>secede +>every soldier just drops everything and runs away or switches sides +Dumbass motherfucker +--- 57882775 +>>57881625 (OP) +>start a civil war because you can't scream nigger at the top of your lungs in public and had to wear a mask when china leaked a fucking virus into the world and could have killed us all + +yeah that sounds about as smart as I'd expect the average southern to be, I give you about a week +--- 57882778 +>>57882561 +Thus again the first week will result in a no gains of dominance. + +the south would likely have a poor choice on coastal defense ships and naval vessels, though it would have plenty of resources to build more and begin a coastal defense. the Union in the east would be focusing its efforts on coastal defense, but the western union states would be able to provide resources to begin a naval blockade of the confederacy. to not further entice the Midwest, who are resoundingly supportive of the succession, they will be ordered to establish martial law, but mostly used as a protected transport network to move resources from west to east. + +the confederate plan mostly consist for holding the mason-dioxin. the objective of which is to make the border states weary of war and play on their pro secessionist sympathies. using each counter attack as propaganda and focusing on military assets and not civilian assets within these states. in the west, basically Texas, the confederacy will expand into former territories united under a banner of taking California down a peg. because of a reluctance from both sides the western boarder will mostly have an occasional hit and run, but no major military action. the confederacy will opt to perform a hell Mary and siege the whole of California by cutting off resources east of the rocky mountains. this would severely hamper California's ability to supply union forces. + +the union would opt to use its still held advanced resources to begin a strategic bombing campaign down the Mississippi. its forces would opt to begin a anaconda plan 2.0 and hope to divide the confederacy in half and gain control of the Mississippi trade network. using California's naval forces, it would begin a blockade of the south. beyond any other particular plans the union would opt for a strategic battle plan across the eastern battle front. +--- 57882780 +>>57882703 +The military bases and arsenals in their territory. None of those are really built or equipped to withstand a seige. Many would surrender, and many others would defect. +They seize a few Air Force bases and now they have F-22s and F-35s in addition to their National Guard F-15s and F-16s. +--- 57882798 +You faggots can leave the United States any time you want, you just can't have any of it's territory or resources or military bases. Every confedafag is encouraged to secede their brains from their skulls as well to make the process easier, or invest in a passport +--- 57882800 +>>57882780 +This is literally "And then the people of Ukraine will rise up and kill Zelensky, drop their weapons, and gloriously join us" tier planning +--- 57882805 +>>57882689 +Ah yes the ol' "the military will magically align with the traitor states" + +lmao I got bad news for you Cletus.... you're gunna have about one army base worth of truly stupid morons like yourself, you think that's enough to overthrow the entire US armed forces, the coast guard, the NAT guard.. all the civilian veterans... and anyone else with a gun who doesn't like you? + +ok +--- 57882812 +You retards would have to open your anuses to Xi and Putin and hope for weapons +You don't just inherit everything if you leave +--- 57882813 +>>57882775 +Who said anything about any of that? The war could be about the results of a football game for all you know. +--- 57882819 +>>57882709 +We had no shortage of bombs or logistics in Afghanistan. +We lost due to a lack of local support. +As Machievelli tells us in "The Prince" you cannot indefinitely rule a people against their will. +Furthermore, you are assuming the CSA cooperates by +1 Allowing itself to be bombed without proportionate retaliation +2 Announcing their intentions from an unsecured location and making themselves vulnerable to decapitation attacks by a country they already know does that. +Also, a tide affects all ships equally; if they are in range of the US, the reverse remains true as well. +This ain't 1861, there is no reason a guerilla couldn't start wasting 4 Stars at an intersection as they drive to work in the morning. +--- 57882834 +>>57882813 +...that's even worse... but it's okay I expect nothing less then the lowest form american +--- 57882835 +>>57882775 +>He believed the covid bullshit. +How many death jabs did you get, mudblood? +--- 57882850 +>>57882798 +>Fed lover. +The Eternal Unionist is no different from the cocksuckers who root for the FBI. +--- 57882866 +>>57882805 +400 core personnel was all the IRA had at its peak. +An army base of personnel would be plenty if the purpose us to wreck havoc and hell against filthy northern vermin. +--- 57882879 +>>57882778 + +in politics the south would likely reach out to former soviet and communist nations in a bid to gain resources, using Cuba as a lay over point and blocade running materials into safe harbor. Canada would likely declare in support of the union, Mexico would prefer to not declare but would openly facilitate trade for either faction. Europe would not openly declare but would have strong union sympathies. the south will likely find an open supporter in the CCP, who will absolutely use this situation to invade tiawan, korea, and japan. Japan, Korea, and Taiwan will heavily support the union, and basically be free to move goods, but will face pressure from china and rouge confederate privateers. + +Brazil will likely hold no opinion and trade with both factions. the rest of south America will view this as an opportunity to undermine the US and not declare but support the confederacy quietly. the south will likely end up with shipments of older NATO equipment and newer comm-bloc equipment, where as the union will receive shipments of new NATO equipment. the south has enough of an industrial base that they can build and support both the older NATO and produce newer NATO equipment. the comm-bloc equipment will help to supplement the gaps in the defenses particularly air defense. Russia would be eager to make some money on selling its last generation and export only equipment. China would also likely want to sell some sub-par air-frames. this might force the union to encourage some NATO allies to sell equipment deliberately to the confederacy to prevent a cash flow to hostile nations. as a result there will have to be some significant rework on the IFF systems and protections installed to prevent cyber warfare. +--- 57882884 +I love how these threads reveal that the only supporters of the US government at this point are gun banning faggot loving vegan shitlibs +--- 57882889 +>>57882800 +That was a war between two seperate nations who had been planning to fight each other for years. This is a civil war that occurs suddenly in a nation which previously never had to worry about fighting a defensive land war. +John Jackson, the F-22 pilot from Georgia, is a lot more likely to defect than Vladimir Conscriptovich, the Ukranian tank crewman who had Russian grandparents. +--- 57882905 +Too busy with ethnic conflict +--- 57882906 +>>57882835 +I don't get it, you guys are fuckin actually retarded. We find out that it's actually entirely possible the Chinese straight up leaked a virus and you still think it's a joke, like that was a possibility at the beginning and then waved off, nope that's probably what it was, NOT a wet market. + +any other decade and we'd all be on here banded together screaming at chinks for nearly killing us all, but for whatever reason.. SOMEHOW... SOMEONE got you all to believe it just isn't real, weird.. +--- 57882938 +>>57882798 +>>57882812 +>>57882835 +>>57882850 +>>57882884 +Can all of you please fuck off, this is a thread about strategy, not how much you hate the libs/chuds +--- 57882966 +>>57882906 +I didn't say the virus wasn't real +The response was fake as fuck, tho. +Anyone who just straight up believes what he's told by the same federal government that did the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment is a dipshit. +Masks made of cotton broadcloth don't work, the lockdown and stimulus checks wrecked the conomy, and the jew jab is at the very best a leaky vax that encourages mutation and at worst a deliberate effort to harm the public. +--- 57882975 +>>57881625 (OP) +As Russian I would make confederate flag as my avatar and support you 24/7 in twitter. +>Kill all niggers, libs and trannies. +>#standwithconfederacy +--- 57882982 +>>57882879 +Regardless of whether this is realistic, its absolute kino +--- 57882996 +>>57882555 +This isn't the fucking 60s either you moron +--- 57882998 +>>57882709 +Look how mad anon is getting when people point out that there has never been a successful anti-guerilla campaign on earth. And those were from cultures that were less intelligent, had less access to resources, weapons, and had a less unified culture. +The guerilla remains undefeated +--- 57883004 +>>57882778 +California is reliant on surrounding states for water, since its population is concentrated in what woukd otherwise be a desert. +Southern sabatours will destroy California's water lines and probably attack its already fragile electrical grid. +I don't think China makes a grab at Korea or Japan but they definitely make one for Taiwan. +This, by the way, will destroy international faith in the US military and cause cou tries to begin forming secondary alliances. +--- 57883028 +>>57881635 +Probably not given that 90% of urban zoomers aren't fit for service and a large fraction of military assets are in southern states manned by southerners. There probably wouldn't even be a war after a nuclear missile silo or twenty changes hands. The North also doesn't have an outsize amount of industrial power (exported) and tax accountants and social media managers aren't really known for their combat prowess. Good luck rallying the urban youth and imported slave labor to die for you. You'll run out of baristas to feed into the flames in the first week. +--- 57883033 +>>57882906 +The direction-brain phenomenon is crazy. +At the beginning, it was actually the /pol/ types who made the biggest deal about the virus, while the left told us that it was just the flu and racists were exaggerating everything as an excuse to be mean to the Chinese. +Then people noticed that Trump was a bit slower to take action than some other leaders were, so overnight it became something that the left obsessed about and the right started denying it was the problem. Instead, it was just a little flu and the whole thing was made up to make Trump look bad. +When Trump first started talking about vaccines, people made fun of him and talked about it being an excuse to get out of lockdowns and masks (because those things had turned into a kind of self-flagellation that the left was proud of at that point). In the run up to the election, people were afraid that an announcement of a vaccine would help Trump, so they said they weren't going to get a "rushed Trump vaccine". +Then Biden became president, and suddenly the vaccine turned into an evil globalists plot to kill or neuter only the people who follow globalists' orders, while the left turned getting vaccinated into some kind of fetish, as if it were something to look forward to rather than being a basic medical procedure. +I'm 100% certain that if Trump had won the election, the right would be virtue signalling about getting their 12th booster and the left would be denying the very principle of preventative medicine and calling all vaccines dangerous. +--- 57883049 +>>57882996 +No, it's the 20's, cumslurper. +Someone can use a drone to drop a pipe bomb on your flag officers. +Cletus, whom you have BADLY underestimated can shoot out electrical transformers. +You know, the transformers with a 2 year waiting list? +Yeah, those. +Anything you think the federal government that you love so dearly can do down here can be done up in your backyard, too. +--- 57883056 +>>57883004 +China would probably end up at war with Korea and Japan anyways, since Chinese controlled Taiwan is the last thing they'd want to happen. +--- 57883086 +>>57883033 +Maybe to an extent but I never had plans to get the vax because I always considered it rushed. +I knew the virus was real but I think the response was wrong. +Enough of that, tho +Strategy talk. +--- 57883092 +>>57882850 +The Eternal Unionist is a fucking American who roots for America, not the literal wannabe traitor too scared to actually get shot by real Americans that every confedafag is. Your state could be made up of 99% treasonous faggots, doesn't suddenly mean they can steal land from the US. Every single confederate from the white trench niggers to the shitass generals should have been killed for participating in the secession, had all of their lands and assets sold for pennies to actual Americans, and every enslaved person sold to the Caribbean or back to Africa. +--- 57883111 +>>57881625 (OP) +>>57882494 +>>57883028 +Ultimately the civil war happened because federal control of the U.S was weak, and statehood was still thought of as being closely tied to nation-hood. secession was still an unanswered question, because the founding fathers never thought to add a "no secession" clause + +a civil war like this will literally never happen again as long as the federal government works the way it does now. This wouldn't be a "farmer boys vs city slickers" fight, it would be "rural militias vs a federal entity that owns land in ever state" + +The modern federal government basically works like a 51st state these days. It has control over its own land and resources. Nevada for example is about 90% federally owned and 10% state owned. + +In order to wage an effective civil war, you would need to actually get all the major cities on board (since they align with the states) to fight the federal government for state/federal secession first + +good luck getting los angeles, dallas, pittsburg, and portland to all agree to fight alongside eachother to take down the feds +--- 57883127 +>>57883056 +Japan and Korea both recognize Taiwan as part of China. +I don't know that the US could fight this war and maintain its mission in the South Pacific. +It's likely that an Asian military alliance is formed as a result if this. +China takes Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Indonesia, Vietnam, and the Philippines all decide to stop mutually hating one another and form a military alliance primarily aimed at keeping the flow of merchant and fishing vessels safe, officially from "pirates" unofficially from China. +--- 57883131 +>>57882975 +at this point in time, it is duely requested that you actively participate in a act of secession against your own tyrannical government. + +~sincerely, The SOUTH. +--- 57883148 +>>57883004 +I could see the US navy, with all of its traitor problem opting to continue navigation of freedom maneuvers keeping china mostly in check against Korea and japan. +--- 57883159 +>>57883092 +The fed is an administrator they don't own the states you fucking idiot +--- 57883162 +All I know about the south as a Kansas boy is that you see a lot more shitty drivers. +--- 57883171 +>>57883148 +The navy sets up a provisional govt in Hawaiii which declares neutrality in the civil war +--- 57883183 +>>57883049 +I'm sure Cletus will own the skies over the Union with his 50 dollar walmart drone ductaped to a pipe bomb and be able to freely travel armed deeply into Union territory to shoot at power transformers to cut power to the local strip club, I'll surrender right now +--- 57883206 +>>57883159 +they literally do u fuckin clown, the fed owns land and has special jurisdiction over them, ranging from resource storage and nature preserves to literal military bases and nuclear arms storage. the states have 0 control of these areas, hence why nevada was essentially nuclear bombed all throughout the 50's and 60's without consent +--- 57883211 +>>57882884 +>loses popular vote for head of state in an election with record turnout +>remains convinced that he's in a silent majority opposed by a tiny number of extremists with absurd views +>staves off cognitive dissonance by insisting that the election result was fraudulent +>doesn't ever consider why no one has been able to produce compelling evidence supporting the existence of widespread and serious fraud +Yeah. The best of America is lining up to join your insurrection. +--- 57883223 +>>57883159 +>they don't own the states you fucking idiot +I'm sure if you just hold a big sign that says "consider the semantics" you'll convince them that your back yard is actually your own nation and they're just the people who deliver your mail, meanwhile don't forget to pay your property taxes before they decide it's not "your" property to begin with +--- 57883242 +>>57883092 +What flavor of bootpolish are they using, faggot? +The South should have waged a guerilla op and burned DC a second time. +There's a well on my family property that has the rotting bones of some yankee filth my great great grandpa killed about a year into the occupation. +They are gonna stay there, too. +They will NEVER go home. +Imagine rooting for a government that injects its own citizens with syphilis and tells them its a vaccine. +Or did Operation LAC, Operation Seaspray, wanted to do Operation Northwoods, did do MK Ultra and MK Monarch, Ruby Ridge and the Waco Massacre. +Covered up multiple offenses by Israel and Co ti uses to support that parasite at our expense, refuses to secure the borders because they want to get rid of "Real Americans" (whatever the fuck that means, post Hart-Cellar). +And is now pushing us towards WW 3 over a corrupt cesspit. +Yeah, you can miss me with that. +God curse the USA. +--- 57883279 +>>57883183 +>I'm sure Cletus will own the skies over the Union with his 50 dollar walmart drone ductaped to a pipe bomb +He doesn't have to own the skies, he just has to be able to move a small drone, which would be very very easy. +> and be able to freely travel armed deeply into Union territory to shoot at power transformers to cut power to the local strip club, +The strip club will lose power, but so will your house. +And yes, he will very much be able to do this. +> I'll surrender right now +It would be the first intelligent thing you've ever done, so I don't hold out much hope. +--- 57883329 +>>57883242 +>wall of text filled with tears +Still the greatest nation on earth that kicked the asshole deep within anybody whose tried to secede, and will do so again if any traitorous faggot so much as raises a stick in anger towards the Union. Now go pay your taxes like a good little boy, or leave the country you hate so much, or keep bitching like a child who thinks their bedroom is sovereign territory just because their cum socks litter the carpet. I already know which option you'll prefer +--- 57883385 +>>57883329 +>More federal boot locking. +Nah, my family built this land, you third gen trash. +It's mine, and the "union" that struggles against literal goat fuckers may want to slow its roll while there's still time. +And it's okay that you didn't read the whole post, I know reading is hard for (you). +--- 57883431 +>>57881625 (OP) +>Training becomes a pain in the dick for the US Army (major training centers are mainly in the south) +>Nukes held in Southern territories become big paperweights (they can't fucking launch them) +>Confederate naval assets would probably dominate in the east for a while (assuming they can actually control them, it's not really that simple because not everyone in the respective VA and FL based fleets are going to be locals) +>Union naval assets will probably need to reroute from Europe and the west coast to do anything, which sucks for them +>Confederate states will need to deal with riots and insurrection that put the BLM/George Floyd years to shame, which in turn either means logistics issues, sucking away manpower for peacekeeping, or if left uncontrolled, potential military and infrastructure failures +>Air battle's going to be pretty one sided, there's more Union AFB's (especially sites containing combat oriented aircraft) than Confederate ones, so short of an unrealistically stealthy first strike on all of them, CAS will be a nightmare +It doesn't look good. The only thing I could think of is just making it really economically unviable to retake the South, so pretty much just constant harassment, Vietnam tier warfare, infrastructural and economic terrorism in Union states, and so on. But even then the South is gonna be dealing with the exact same shit on their end. I'm sure there's probably been a wargame or two regarding this scenario, I'd be interested to see what occured. Maybe if Southern forces managed to march all the way up the east coast and take DC and NY then stuff could maybe be negotiated, but given the sheer amount of military resources based in the midwest and west, it's a long shot. +--- 57883479 +>>57882879 +cont. + +the Navy sets up a provisional expeditionary government under the "alliance to free Taiwan" China seeing the weakness in the US government is becoming unusually aggressive against Taiwan. if the US navy cannot prove that it will defend Taiwan, then China will likely invade. the HQ is Hawaii. Alaska and Hawaii opt to remain neutral and sign a pact with the confederacy of non-aggression, confederate sailors are given safe harbor in exchange for confederate support in preventing the invasion of Taiwan. + +after establishing the siege of California the confederacy moves north along the Rockies and encapsulates the union, driving strait to the Canadian border. Canada, now regretting its open declaration reaffirms that it supports the union but is not at war with the confederacy. the confederacy successfully takes the central US, but Canada provides a protected transport network to move supplies. + +Operation "ass-whoppen over the knee" now goes into effect. and the union is forced to fight on two fronts in the west of the north east, along its southern border, and the siege of California. while gridlock prevents movement. the double ended loss of supplies and momentum from the west, causes the north east to harden loosing the border states and some of the fringe western states. the remaining union states are very well defended and prove a hard nut to crack. using this breathing room the confederacy moves to make a jump across the Rockies starting in the north and moving south. just as this plan is about to take off Canada attacks the northern confederate states, forcing the south into more grid lock. +--- 57883481 +>>57883431 +My understanding has been that in most modern wargame scenarios the seceeding states win. +Without the leash of federal government, the rioters probably get gunned down very early on, and keep in mind that cities can be choked off. +Many of them already have "food deserts". +Also, foreign support will play a huge role +The EU will absolutely back the US, as will Japan and South Korea. +China will back the CS and as a eesult, the CS may still be economically viable without the US. +In fact, the South is now where factories are coming up and will become both an agricultural and industrial region. +--- 57883577 +>>57883481 +>The rioters probably get gunned down very early on +Anon, we're talking about the communities that make up the vast majority of homicides in the United States. They're going to fire back. People seem to think the whole IRA-style-terrorism thing isn't going to show up southside as well, when that's exactly the sort of thing black and certain latino communities would start doing. +>Food deserts +The first thing that'll go to shit in both nations is going to be food and medical infrastructure. The Union isn't going to just sit and watch Confederates growing crops, they're going to napalm it. It's not going to be pretty. +>Foreign support +The Chinese need to actually get supplies to the South first, which is difficult due to the Union controlling western fleets, which in turn block off the Panama Canal. They'd need to go all the way around South America, then back up towards the Gulf to drop off supplies. Euros just need to send stuff through Canada. +--- 57883618 +>>57883577 +>They'd need to go all the way around South America, then back up towards the Gulf to drop off supplies. +Or they could land on the Pacific coast of a sovereign Central American nation and move it by land. +--- 57883641 +>>57883618 +Again, they need to get past naval blockades to do that. Also, there are no Central American nations bordering the USA, this leaves Mexico. Good luck with that. +--- 57883655 +>>57881625 (OP) +military strategy barely matters for the south, all it would it take for the federal government to win is to stop any incoming trading and disrupt civilian way of life +sit back and watch the region start revolting and pillaging amonst themselves +you can already imagine the casualties if the southerners decided to go on the offensive to stop any of this +--- 57883717 +>>57883479 +this reads like the summary of a five part military fiction novel series, something full of all sorts of absurd pitched battles, stupid myths, and wacky wunderwaffe. It would either end with the north and south re-uniting to fight the a resurgent soviet union, or with the CSA building an empire across South America. +--- 57883737 +>>57883641 +Mexico hasn't been able to stem the flow of drugs or weapons in the past 100 years. +What makes you think they'll start now? +And just how far is this "blockade" going to extend and remain effective? +Do you think every country will be on board with that? +At that point they may help the CS out of sheer spite. +--- 57883754 +>>57881995 +>>steal nuclear weapons undergoing maintenance at the PANTEX plant +omae wa mou shinde iru. Might as well try to assassinate the president first, much easier +--- 57883773 +>>57883754 +both of those are things a nation state could do, the latter is just ill advised because it serves no strategic purpose and will incite a equivalent response from the enemy. +--- 57883779 +>>57883737 +>Mexico hasn't been.. +I don't give a damn what the Mexican government does or does not do, because they aren't the threat to your precious supplies at that point. By the time aid reaches Texas, your crates will have only a fraction of what was initially there. Mexicans love their bribes, and cartels love free shit. MexGov probably won't let anyone use their territory for involvement in a Civil War though for the below reasons. +>How far is.. +Probably just key points like the coast of Mexico, California, Alaska, and Panama. If you want to try and lug precious cargo through some of the most corrupt ass-backwards nations in the world, by all means. +>Do you think every country will be on board with that? +No, I'm sure some places would love to help to spite the US. But the most important ones (Panama, Mexico, Brazil) don't want to touch that shit with a ten foot barge pole. If they hedge their bets wrong, they're a prime target for some Monroe Doctrine funsies by the victor. Better to stay neutral (y'know, like they did for the most part the first time around). +--- 57883788 +>>57881625 (OP) +>The poorest states of the Union will secede from the Fed who subsidizes them +: ^ ). Also in no situation is Virginia seceding all the way up by MD. You can probably cut the hump (NOVA) off and have the rest of the state leave, but most of the rest of the state is burbs, mountains, and forest, and once you get into the mountains and forest the likelihood of confederate sympathies goes down as most of those folks prefer to be left alone by everyone. +--- 57883795 +>>57882236 +But the Ukraine threads are fine? +--- 57883819 +>>57882889 +No, no he's not. Primarily because the vast majority of pilots are not from Georgia and are from other states. +--- 57883826 +>>57883159 +Depends on what you mean, but yes quite a few states are literally just Fed land. +--- 57883884 +>>57883211 +You did that entire spiel yet did nothing to dispel the idea that you're some manner of bicycle riding bisexual shitskin. +>that's the majority in America now! +Yeah, I believe you. That's the problem. +--- 57883890 +Depends on why the war starts as this will determine the amount of support the south, north, and contested/neutral parties lend to the conflict. External nations like Mexico, Canada, Cuba, France, China, all of those would become major assets since their factories would theoretically be safe from bombings. A significant amount of rifles used by both the north and south during the war were from England and Austria. Most of the midwest, nearly all of the Appalachian areasand Rockies would side with a "conservative" saide over a "liberal" side in most scenarios which would completely change the dynamic of any war. I can't stress enough that the why really matters. + +But lets says it's exactly the same as last time and why has zero relevance. A mahor game changer would be DC is only a dozen or so miles from the border and could easily be flattened. That being said Richmond isn't super far either. +--- 57883892 +>>57883717 +I mean, basically what is going to happen if it actually happened. + +>I miss when /k/ fanticised about a Stonewall Jackson AI in space. +--- 57883911 +>I hate you +>and I own you +>and we are brothers +>and you are subhuman +>and you need me to survive +>and I'll kill you if you leave +Why the fuck does every Federal Government Supporter talking to secessionists sound exactly like Russians talking about Ukraine? + +Do they ever listen to themselves and think "Gee, maybe I'm the bad guy"? +--- 57883940 +>>57882778 +>the south would likely have a poor choice on coastal defense ships and naval vessels +ha ha +ahahahahahahaha +Norfolk, VA and Kings Bay, Georgia together have the overwhelming majority of US warships and submarines in the Atlantic. Kings Bay is also home to half the US' Ohio-class SSBNs. +--- 57883953 +>>57881635 +Probably not. They'd have most of the military bases that would be relevant in a land war. +--- 57883962 +>>57883892 +>>I miss when /k/ fanticised about a Stonewall Jackson AI in space. +qrd? +--- 57883992 +>>57883431 +>they can't fucking launch them +Very wrong. +>For silo-based and submarine-launched ballistic missiles, permissive action links are unlocked before warheads are fitted onto their delivery bus. +>Once a submarine or intercontinental ballistic missile crew receives an authenticated order, they unlock safes and compare the codes inside with the one they just received. If the codes match, intercontinental ballistic missile crews then begin the process of typing targeting coordinates into their computers and launching the missiles. +https://warontherocks.com/2020/11/right-of-launch-command-and-control-vulnerabilities-after-a-limited-nuclear-strike/ +--- 57884011 +>>57883911 +hyper-nationalists of any variety have a special type of brainrot. +--- 57884033 +>>57883940 +I assumed the navy would mostly be out at sea. + +>>57883962 +I don't have the thread but... + +in the far future when mankind in fighting a desperate war in space against forces unknown. a little known battle cruiser equipped with an a last generation combat AI falls into disrepair. its crew becomes so under supplied they wear through their shoes and are hollow-men. their leadership has one after another ended themselves from the total lack of a will to live. in this desperation, and possibly due to rampancy in the failing AI. it in an act to find some tactic or strategy searches its data base until it comes across, Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson, a confederate general in the ACW. using the comparisons, the now insane AI takes on his personality and begins a campaign of insurrectionist actions. + +the Stonwall AI vs the federation alliance. + +the battle ship ends up ironically using civil war tactics to gain the advantage, using asteroid fields as cover, making bold charges with barefoot boarding parties. + +>stupid but fun. +--- 57884042 +>>57883992 +>Thermonuclear war on US soil +>Except neither China nor Russia needs to fire anything +Moscow and Beijing would pass out from creaming themselves that much. +--- 57884060 +>>57883911 +No, we don't. We're the side upholding freedom, the Constitution, and peaceful prosperity, while larpers are the side jerking off to the thought of wrecking American cities to destroy our nation and brutalize people they dislike into abandoning the civil order for a methbilly sabotage party. + +When they're coherent enough for self-examination, that is. Most larpers haven't thought ahead to the consequences of their claims and react angrily to anyone who understands them better than they understand themselves. +--- 57884073 +You think the South would try to reactivate her? + I don't think they would be able to, but I could definitely see it being a popular idea among the senators. +--- 57884101 +i really think you guys are overestimating how many soldiers will switch sides +--- 57884103 +>>57884060 +>We're the side upholding the Constitution +I want to point out that typically the pro-secession side is the one that would ctrl c + ctrl v the US Constitution and tag "no homos and no abortions" at the end, while the anti-secession side is the one that would abolish the US Constitution and replace it with one that has positive rights such as the right to employment, education, and safety from hate speech or gun violence +--- 57884112 +>>57883788 +Without the rest of the US, that "poorest region" is the world's 4th largest economy and 2nd most powerful military. +>>57883779 +A US fresh out if a civil war is in no position for any "Monroe Doctrine funsies". +Calculating that and the increasing likelihood of BRICS overtaking the petrodollar, they may decide that this only helps them in the long run. +Nothing that happened "the first time" is relevant because this isn't 1861. +>>57883655 +Bold of you to assume the reverse couldn't also be true. +--- 57884114 +>>57884073 +because of the doggedness of the war yes. though she would probably become a floating coastal defense platform. the big guns could be used to perform a few coastal bombardments, but unless the CSA ran low on missiles, they wouldn't dare to try true battle ship tactics. she would hunt littoral ships and destroyers, but not much else. +--- 57884141 +>>57884060 +>while larpers are the side jerking off to the thought of wrecking American cities to destroy our nation and brutalize people they dislike into abandoning the civil order for Black Lives Matter +Seems the urbanites already beat us to it. +--- 57884148 +>>57884112 +>Fresh out of +See this is the problem. You're not looking beyond maybe five or ten years. The US isn't going to be the dominant world power, but given a generation or two of healing? Yeah, they're going to be the dominant regional power in the Americas at a minimum. Short of complete Balkanization there's no preventing this. +--- 57884149 +>>57884112 +>2nd most powerful military. +cap +--- 57884165 +>>57884148 +Whether they win or not, the US will not survive ACW2. +--- 57884188 +>>57884165 +Alright, why? +--- 57884220 +>>57884114 +I don't think they'd be able to fix the engines. The South Dakotas had lots of their parts pulled out after decommissioning to fix the Iowas. These are oil fired steam turbines we're talking about. Its been at least 50 years since any of those were built in US shipyards. + +That being said, if they did somehow restore her, she'd likely have her AA and secondary guns ripped off and replaced with harpoons, seaRAMs, and sea sparrows. Maybe they could fit Tomahawks if they wanted to dig up the old armored box launchers ww2 era ships used in the 80s, but they'd probably just stick to the guns for land attack. +--- 57884227 +>>57881625 (OP) +How many times do we have to teach you old man? +--- 57884231 +>>57883028 +>a large fraction of military assets are in southern states +And what do you think the federal government would do with ITS assets if those southern states looked like they were about to secede? +--- 57884245 +>>57883940 +>Norfolk or any part of Norther VA not being Fed aligned +Why do non DMVfags think they know the area? +--- 57884252 +>>57883819 +what is the number of fighter pilots for each state? +--- 57884291 +>>57884112 +In theory yes, in reality it means that you would be attempting as a nation dependent on a (now) enemy to secure credit and trade. At best you could cycle out one quarters' worth of goods before immediate supply issues. The South's primary industry is still agriculture with some petrol, they could in theory continue most of that, but it assumes that most of the working class (black/immigrant and impoverished) will continue to support the state and its infrastructure. Isolated from the Fed the South will be forced to mint a new currency with 0 outside adopters and 0 ability to truly secure open trade. It's not a simple and then they made money, this would take a decade to fix (and is one of the main causes of failure to the South the first time). +--- 57884342 +>>57884252 +You'll never get the information, but based off of personal knowledge the vast majority tend to come from the Midwest/Texas (Texas has the ANG which does a lot of training), but the Midwest has most of the Air National Guard units still around and most of those are centered on the Northern side of the country. For "southern" training bases there's Pensacola which the Navy first pilot school, but they don't really "recruit" from Pensacola the stick jockeys are just sent there. Colorado is the home of the Air Force Academy and each state receives in theory 2 appointments there a year (but the vast majority of Academy grads don't go pilot). WA is home to one of the only major fighter bases in the US and has active training all year. California (SD in particular) is another big training base and a big Marine aviation base. So all that word salad to say Midwest/Texas (and I only list Texas because the ANG is so active and is one of the only "easy" ways for a poorer person to get a flight license on bill of the go). You can take a look at the various pilot instagrams tho and see if you can piece more together. +--- 57884364 +>>57884291 +A big thing that everyone overlooks is that after a successful secession, both states would still exist, share a massive border, one would still be the second largest economy on earth and the other would be the 8th or 9th + +So we're looking at something hopefully less like the first Civil War and more like the partitions of India or Ireland +--- 57884374 +>>57884364 +Any seceding state will be in an immediate economic crisis and will have to first solve the issue of currency which will require the minting of a new treasury in this upstart state. Converting existing insured Federal holdings of the average Joe alone makes this a near impossibility +--- 57884386 +>>57884342 +so can you extrapolate a rough percentage or fraction system based on that information? +--- 57884394 +>>57884386 +Well given the amount of aviation training schools and the fact Texas is the third most common recruiting state, probably less than 30% of the entire MIL pilots come from the South identified in the OP. +--- 57884405 +>>57884394 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Air_National_Guard_Squadrons +This will help give you another idea as well. +--- 57884410 +>>57884060 +Irony and projection oozes from this post. I can't imagine what it would be like to have so little self awareness. +--- 57884487 +>>57881625 (OP) +Southern Illinois and Indiana need to be considered border areas, those fuckers sent a lot of men down south to fight for the confederacy and a lot of others raided and killed Union supporters in the area. They use to kill military aged union supporters and leave their bodies just west of Alton along the Mississippi. +--- 57884518 +>>57881625 (OP) +>>57881635 +>>57881646 +>>57882195 +>The blue northern cities and red northern country fighting together against the blue southern cities and the red southern country +How in the fuck does that work? +--- 57884540 +>>57882125 +Guerilla warfare would be infinitely more successful in developed places where the militants are blending in not just with "foreign noncombatants" but your own people, and they have access to your infrastructure and logistics, not just your soldiers. +--- 57884550 +>>57884518 +following the handwavium crisis of 2024, all southern democrats moved north, and all northern republicans moved south. +--- 57884553 +>>57882195 +>That was mainly just to keep out the "do it again sherman" posters and their "I hate yankees" counterparts, as well as any /pol/-fags. +The only tried and true way to keep the number of fags to a minimum is to just demand they post gun. +--- 57884568 +>>57884550 +That's happening, slowly. +They're calling it "the great re-sorting" + +https://www.npr.org/2022/02/18/1081295373/the-big-sort-americans-move-to-areas-political-alignment +--- 57884595 +>>57884550 +If it's red VS Blue, military included, Red dominates so hard I doubt blue would actually fight back in any significant quantity. More of the military (slanted hugely towards the people who do the actual fighting no less) is Red, Red civilians are the ones with all the guns, meanwhile blue has vastly more "useless eaters" so to speak. +--- 57884613 +>>57884394 +That's still a pretty big pool of potential defectors and seized aircraft. Nothing to scoff at. +--- 57884618 +>>57884608 +>economically healthy states like California and New York +lel +--- 57884624 +>>57884568 +Appalachia invented fedposting. We hate the commie faggots more than any southerner because we've been forced to live near them the longest. +--- 57884631 +>>57881625 (OP) +>The US loses Texas and Florida's economies. +It wouldn't just be the south if this happened. It'd be every state but the most liberal out of pure economic necessity. +--- 57884638 +>>57884595 +The Bolsheviks defeated the conservatives/rurals/veterans under the same circumstances in the Russian civil war. +--- 57884650 +>>57884645 +>produce +--- 57884651 +>>57884608 +Most of those public funds get funneled into feeding the blue cities that grow like cancer in every red state, and the interstate system which ships red country food to blue cities everywhere more than it does anything else. We don't need you, you're paying us to keep you on life support. +--- 57884664 +>>57884645 +New York doesn't "produce" anything other than crime, faggotry, and gun laws. + +Post your gun commie. +--- 57884666 +>>57884638 +>I'm not a commie I'm just a red-blooded moderate conservative American patriot but has anyone noticed the Soviet Union was based at btfoing chuds +fuck this board lol +--- 57884679 +>>57884613 +You are assuming that everyone from those states holds alignment rather than residency to those places. Military folks overwhelmingly come from military families who have usually been in the system from childhood to adulthood and then took over Dad or Mom's career in the mil. Recruiting pools outside of that tend to be those seeking economic opportunity. Seceding states (as noted in other posts) would be in the midst of a deep economic crisis trying to secure and maintain a new currency while converting existing holdings over. The mess this alone would create would prompt most citizens to prefer the old way simply because of the potential to lose life savings. Heavy are the handcuffs of prosperity. Of course air units are really not the most important thing in this "war" and regardless of how well the "South" (noted in the map in the OP) can convert of that 30% they will still face massive resourcing and resupply issues (as once again most aircraft manufacturing happens in what the OP image lays out as Non Southern Aligned areas). I don't scoff at the number of Southerners in the US military. I scoff at the children of this website that think they have it so bad that a large chunk of Federal employees would revolt against the steadiest pay master in the entire world and forfeit its benefits to align with new non economically stable republics that would not be able to sustain themselves economically, agriculturally, or even in basic manufacturing. +--- 57884686 +>>57884410 +>what if it's not ironic and it's my real unfiltered cringe opinion, what then? +You can always find boomer conservatives or populist Big Siege schizos cheering for the Russians to nuke America's cities, or awkwardly walking it back when they're called out, but you don't see the centrist establishment advocating it. Or even leftists for that matter. It's a strictly trailerpark fetish. +--- 57884697 +>>57884608 +>Yeah I'll take anon doesn't know what subsidized farming is for 6 trillion +--- 57884707 +>>57884666 +>anyone with a basic grasp of history is a commie in disguise +Grow up. +--- 57884712 +>>57884638 +The Bolsheviks weren't fighting a majority of the military, police, workers, and in general the most heavily armed population in human history, while sustaining tens of millions of pencil pushers and minorities that will do absolutely nothing to help fight either directly or indirectly but will riot and destroy infrastructure if not coddled. +--- 57884721 +>>57884707 +Prove him wrong, post your gun and denounce the Talmud. +--- 57884722 +>>57884686 +Did you miss the Sherman circlejerk +--- 57884735 +>>57884410 +>>57884686 +No gun lol +--- 57884739 +>>57881635 +>declares war on a nuclear armed NATO nation + +ass whooping the likes of which this planet has never seen +--- 57884750 +>>57884679 +Oh and another thing I forgot to add, the vast majority of the industrial areas of the South tend to be in Fed subsidized industrial areas (i.e. the TVA which literally still steers the vast majority of Tennessee politics). These areas are not so old that they have lost all record of pre Fed days. The TVA (while very controversial) still brought an entire generational uplift in quality of life to the entire area. Consider additionally that the South is also downstream of Northern land and their largest freshwater river is on the receiving end of all of Northern pollution. It does not bode well. +--- 57884774 +>>57884735 +Seethe. I'm not posting guns, serial numbers, or any other dox because you're too insecure to admit some people think you're wrong and they aren't bots, trolls, senile, uneducated, thirdies, or any other excuse. +--- 57884776 +>>57884664 +Okay +--- 57884802 +>>57884750 +fair enough, I guess it really would come down to the state of the country before the war. If the population had lost enough faith in the federal government then the number might be higher than 30 %, but if they still had enough faith the secession might never happen at all. +I guess the real question is, what would it take to make large swaths of the AF (or any part of the military really) defect? +--- 57884833 +>>57882850 +just admit you hate America +--- 57884875 +posturing with guns in polo shirts is the american right's version of a tough vdv tv ad +just like the vdv they'd be mowed down by transfolk with smart bombs +--- 57884880 +>>57883431 +>Betray your oath, betray the country that has given you so much +>side with a faction that wants to exterminate people like you + +military would overwhelming side with the Union, even in southern states. Not to mention the insurgency executed by armed racial and gender minorities in the area +--- 57884884 +>>57881625 (OP) +>Lets say the South seceded again, right now, and they did so with massive public support from their population. +Texas here, so total fucking fantasy thread? + +I like playing sorcerers. +--- 57884906 +>>57883940 +NOVA is the most federalist supporting region of the US retard +--- 57884940 +>>57884906 +>Norfolk is NOVA +pick up a map some time, retard +--- 57885004 +>>57884884 +discussing total fantasies is fun, certainly better than another general or Ukraine thread +--- 57885006 +>>57884875 +>>57884880 +these are the guys who say they're moderate conservative patriots btw +--- 57885029 +>>57884774 +Lol we got one. + +No gun no opinion. +--- 57885042 +>>57885029 +I posted a gun already. Now it's your turn. +--- 57885046 +>>57885006 +Yes. Patriots love their country. They don't want to destroy it in a civil war because gays scare them and they want to be le based and trad like russia or whatever. +--- 57885084 +>>57884638 +I don't think you know much about any of the Russian revolutions. The Bolsheviks more or less stepped in when all sides were in a weakened state. Even then they still damn near imploded with all the infighting and uncertainty within the new government. Stalin and his hardline policies is what saved them, unfortunately you can see what that lead to. +--- 57885126 +>>57885042 +>Two posters sucking each other off +>One refuses to post gun +>Make fun of the one who refused +>"No I did post a gun!" +Wait, you're samefagging and talking to yourself? +--- 57885211 +>massive public support from their population +lol + +who wants to tell him +--- 57885272 +>>57885165 +>Ha those stupid farmers who we pay to ship us food are unsustainable without the money we send them to feed us! Without them, we'll just eat credit cards! +--- 57885323 +>>57884650 +>>57884664 +>produce income that can be used to buy goods from abroad rather than needing to make the goods themselves +>as opposed to producing some goods but not producing enough income to buy what they can't from abroad +Imagine thinking the second would be better. +--- 57885507 +>>57883431 +>The only thing I could think of is just making it really economically unviable to retake the South, so pretty much just constant harassment, Vietnam tier warfare, infrastructural and economic terrorism in Union states, and so on. +Too bad the majority of obese people live in the south. The extent of their Vietnam tier warfare would be capturing buffets and waffle houses before giving them up to move to the next restaurant. +--- 57885523 +>>57885046 +Read the quotes posts, the first one says whites should be genocides preemptively to protect PoC Americans and the second one says all hetero/cis people should be drone bombed + +That's some weird "patriotism" you got there +--- 57885547 +>>57883737 +Why would Mexico, criminal organizations or legal organizations and institutions, allow support to the region of the USA that hates them the most? +--- 57886059 +>>57881625 (OP) +the first few weeks would be chaos if it relies on a geographic realignment, because none if the political fissures in the us are purely geographic. there would probably be two or three months of random bombings and massive amounts of internal displacement. + +Actual military operations would be a giant mess as disentangling allegiances would take forever, and might never actually get off the ground. Since the civil war recruiting and staffing has moved on from purely regional affiliation deciding placement to a spread out system. the military’s allegiance would remain to the federal government but there would be months on months of purging of neoconfederates, who would be almost exclusively be enlisted - and not a majority either. for purposes of this thought experiment that chunk could be safely ignored. + +instead it would likely be a local police and national guard versus rebels for the opening of hostilities. there would be a non-zero amount of local police departments and local, town and district governments that align with the rebel movement, but union sympathizers would by default be in nearly every higher level of government, which would cripple strategic decisionmaking. + +as a result the south would have almost no major military power beyond militias, and very few cities as far as a major power base. the north would retain major manufacturing capability but would likely be faced with a time crunch on how quickly to act before a temporary but major lack of food and supplies impacts non-costal cities. the complete fuckening of long logistics tails would ground thr USAF in a matter of weeks, and in all likelyhood those first few months would almost instantly turn the south and many border states into Syria-tier ruins, as you would see major riots from sympathizers of both sides. + after the first year, the north - which I’ve assumed is the continuation of the union - would gather enough international support to overwhelm the south +--- 57886094 +>>57884802 +>I guess the real question is, what would it take to make large swaths of the AF (or any part of the military really) defect? +Material conditions are the biggest reason and one of the many ways communists and other groups come to power, however, the problem you will have (and it is not by accident) is that the military while not extremely lucrative, is very lucrative. The only situation where large scale defection becomes feasible in the USA is an economic collapse, and that becomes even harder as independent states will be weak economically and trade wise speaking. It is a very unlikely scenario because despite what most want to believe the US gov is not near as incompetent in every field as Anons on the internet scream. The US gov stockpiles food, subsidizes industry and farm, not solely to line the pockets of the wealthy (tho they do take advantage of it), but to prevent situations where the entire agricultural or industrial base dies. This is done through the power of Federalization and shared funding. It is why the EU has approached Federalization so heavily, it's the ONLY way to compete with the US powerhouse. +--- 57886100 +>>57884487 +This, southern Illinois don't give a fuck about the Union +--- 57886107 +>>57885323 +Anyone who doesn't live on enough land to feed themselves simply isn't human. +--- 57886109 +>>57884940 +>Norfolk +>With Dahlgren, Harry Nice, and more Feds than you can shake a stick at is not Federally aligned +Why do non DMVfags talk like they know the area +--- 57886120 +>>57884487 +>>57886100 +Lel tell me you've never been to Southern IL without telling me. Pro tip Scott AFB is one of the biggest employers in the state. Also protip Alton is a shithole and always has been. +--- 57886191 +>>57886109 +people thinking real life is a HoI4 mod and trying to treat it as such +--- 57886218 +>>57886107 +>b-but I could total start subsistence farming if I wanted to +No, you can't. This is one of the dumbest LARPs posters here participate in. +--- 57886240 +>>57886218 +>it's literally impossible to raise chickens and grow food +It's surreal that this is so alien to you you actually think that it's something normal people cant do. +--- 57886338 +>>57882485 +fail? +--- 57886344 +>>57882455 + No they didn’t, shit lips. + + Lee launched two abortive invasions of he North. One ended approximately 12 miles into Maryland at Antietam, and the other did a little better bu ended at Gettysburg. + There was one invasion of Kentucky by one of the booger-eaters out West…Braxton Bragg?..and that also ended almost as soon as it began. + + Contrast that with endless successions of Yankees marching south to get parts shot off them or die in the Fredericksburg area, (Rebel Bakhmut). + + A few picayune cavalry raids here and there didn’t account for much, because the Southerners, (well, nobody really until Grant and Sherman and Sheridan showed up for the Yanks), had doped out total economic warfare against the enemy people. + + There was no sustained Strategic initiative against the North by the Rebels…and not a whole lot of Tactical Offensives into Yankee turf either. + + Do you know the difference between Strategic and Tactical? Have you read Von Clausewitz you fucking dummy? + + Shove your buttplug back in because I suspect that your brains might be leaking out of your slackened ass, (along with your boyfriend’s jism). +--- 57886422 +>>57882805 + Yes, it will. + And the Pentagon KNOWS it will. + + You’re waking your microdick at an oncoming hurricane. + + What you don’t want to understand is that as soon as the Secession starts…with the very first state…the nation you’re so loyal to has ALREADY lost. + + What you knew will NEVER exist again. And it will have lost because it FAILED to keep the whole ramshackle shebang voluntarily together. + + Scrape the bong-resin out of your brain pan and see the reality for what it is. + As things are going, this is inevitable.This…will HAPPEN. + + And fucktards like yourself with your egotistical delusion that you’re some kind of Heap Big Nigger calling the shots will be a big part of that Epic Fail. +--- 57886433 +>>57886240 +>b-but I saw an infographic about how easy homesteading is, I could totally do it +Meanwhile in reality, raising enough to be self sufficient rather than just supplement what you buy takes tons of time and effort to do, and takes years of effort to do well enough to actually rely on. The posters who romanticize the idea here have no experience actually doing it. +--- 57886442 +>>57882819 + We had a Mooj do just that on Chain Bridge Road in Langley VA where the Spooks turn left to drive into Langley CIA. + + Old Mo’ hopped out of his car with an AK and started punching tickets. + How quickly people forget… +--- 57886503 +>>57882866 + Hold up playa! + Cool it with the “filthy Northern vermin” talk. This ain’t 1861 and they’re not coming down to free the Negroes. + + A lot of those boys up North are actually good ole boys, (just with funny accents and they like this game called “hockey”). + + If you could cool your jets, I could swing central Pennsy and most of central upstate New York to come in with us. + + Hell, a lot of back country New England ain’t too happy with what the DC Swamp has given them…shuttered mills, chronic unemployment and OxyContin. + + You want to win this thing and be a new nation, or what? + + Shit I could deliver a good chunk of Ohio and Michigan behind that. +--- 57886625 +Organized crime and intelligence is persecuted while simultaneously being used to coordinate and equip beat and volunteer militias. Assuming there was full public support it’s hard to guess where it would go after that. Sort of a vague hypothetical. if there was some kind of conventional conflict, yanks wouldn’t have safe passage in the south for another century. +--- 57886666 +>>57886120 +Way to out yourself as a transit reservist/ANGfag. +Protip, most of southern Illinois falls in line politically with the south, look at places like Calhoun, Greene, Macoupin, and Pike county, and that's just around the Alton Area. There's a reason blacks, Jews, and gays tend to avoid those counties. +--- 57886743 +>>57881625 (OP) +>South secedes +>Unpopular blue puppet orders the mostly conservative army to put them down +>Army revolts +>Total. Californian. Death +--- 57887347 +>>57885547 +Because they are signing onto BRICS and this weakens the dollar as well as weakening the US who has been a pain in their ass for 2 centuries. +--- 57887378 +>>57884833 +I hate America. +Did you think I was pretending otherwise? +Fuck the federal government. +--- 57887390 +>>57887347 +>they are signing onto BRICS and this weakens the dollar +The USD makes up approximately 60 percent of total global reserve currency. The combined monetary supply of every BRICS nation would be less than 10 percent. The Chinese Yuan currently sits at less than 3 percent. +--- 57887460 +>>57881625 (OP) +why do you faggots keep fantasizing about an extreme hypothetical civil war? + +That shit ain't gonna happen like you think it's gonna happen. + +Sometimes I get the feeling that the people here who talk about these hypothetical civil wars actually want it to happen. +--- 57887465 +>>57887460 +hint: they're vatnigs or funded/deluded by them +--- 57887511 +>>57886743 +>mostly conservative army +I don’t think that’s true anymore. Every single person I know in the army is named Ramirez or Rodriguez. +--- 57887524 +>>57884291 +>theory yes, in reality it means that you would be attempting as a nation dependent on a (now) enemy to secure credit and trade. +The region is productive and there WILL be trade partners interested in it. +>At best you could cycle out one quarters' worth of goods before immediate supply issues. The South's primary industry is still agriculture with some petrol, they could in theory continue most of that, +Every air compressor made in America comes from a single factory located in Jackson, TN (MAT Industries, if you were curious). +Do you like air brakes on trucks? +Everyone else does too, and that is only one example. +As far as agriculture goes, Dixie is not some small-time player. +A HUGE amount of food and linens come from here. Louisiana alone can produce more rice in one year than Korea can in two, which is why US rice doesn't go there. One state could outcompete an entire country in that market. +>but it assumes that most of the +We're making assumptions... +>working class +>black +These two are contradictory +>immigrant and impoverished will continue to support the state and its infrastructure. +No. The immigrants will leave, because that is in their nature. They'll probably rish north. The impoverished will support whoever supports them. Incidentally, ibsee a lot of Confederate flags around the working class areas. +> Isolated from the Fed the South will be forced to mint a new currency with 0 outside adopters and 0 ability to truly secure open trade. It's not a simple and then they made money, this would take a decade to fix (and is one of the main causes of failure to the South the first time). +The first time the south failed because it was murdered by a mad tyrant and an army of bootlickers. +Isolated from the fed, the CSA doesn't have the US multi decatrillion dollar dept in a currency that's about to lose its reserve status. +--- 57887571 +>>57881625 (OP) +>territorial integrity of the Lower 48 is non-negotiable, Podesta Dems scrumming Pacific secession in the last Election lead up notwithstanding +>10th Amendment: exists +All that's required are local elites with institutional capture to refuse federal cooperation and apply force to obstruct incursions. Federalism works just fine. You do you, over there. +--- 57887652 +>>57882689 +>But the South would have access to modern missiles, aircraft, and air defenses as well. +>There's enough conventional AA in the South to defend against a simultaneous targeted strike against their civilian centers of government by the US military. +Lol. LMAO. + +>>57886344 +>It didn't count cause they got their shit stomped. +Lol. LMAO. And yes, I know the difference between strategic and tactical. Menacing DC was tactical. The Gettysburg campaign was strategic. + +Arguing the South didn't take stategic action against the North when THAT WAS HOW THEY FUCKING LOST is fucking insane. +--- 57887743 +>>57887460 +>>57887465 +/k/ is a hate the modern world board, faggots. Any society with gun laws deserves a civil war. +--- 57887774 +>>57887743 +Ok vatnig +--- 57887817 +>>57883028 +>Lol we are so tough here in the sticks! +Same bullshit said last time. Same result this time. Just get over being saved from yourselves. +--- 57887853 +>>57887817 +A four year long mutual slaughter in which the larger and more well-equipped force struggled against a smaller force of shoeless farmers? +If you think it was an easy ass whupping the first time then you're a retard. +If you think it'll be even easier the second time then you should probably turn your phone off and go to bed. +You won't find enough volunteers willing to die to keep people that they don't like from leaving a (supposedly voluntary) union that they wish those people weren't a part of. +--- 57888070 +>>57887460 +I just like to think about war. Civil wars are often the most kino form of wars. +--- 57888093 +>>57881625 (OP) +I hope we have a second civil war I want a new underground railroad it'd be so cool to ride a choochoo through cave systems man +--- 57888112 +>>57887774 +>Cares more about current war than gun rights +Get out, tourist +--- 57888127 +>>57888070 +what if the peak Vietnamese army got teleported back in time for their mongol invasion? +--- 57888133 +>>57881625 (OP) +Are we doing the same colors again? I have a gray set of BDU's around here somewhere. Y'all Yakees go on 'n git! +--- 57888163 +>>57881625 (OP) +They wouldn't have to much. At this point everyone is too apathetic to stop them and there isn't a moral cause like slavery to unite behind. +--- 57888164 +>>57881635 +southerners absolutely seething at this objective truth +--- 57888178 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt6YCfMRGbs [Embed] + +Just rely on Texas to save our ass. +--- 57888183 +>>57881689 +Attacks on infrastructure most likely. You don't need to defeat a modern military on the battlefield in order to make the states surrender you just have to target power and water sources and the non military population will crumble quickly and sue for peace. +--- 57888208 +>>57881625 (OP) +>muh cibil wor +--- 57888231 +>>57888164 +>houses most of the military bases +>most military personnel in the army are southern +>houses half the navy +>houses the majority of tech companies +Yeah nah the south could absolutely cripple the north these days, the north lost almost off of it's manufacturing and it all got relocated down south, with everyone moving to Texas now that bolsters the shit out of them and then you have North Carolina which is the home of massive data servers for every major tech company. +There are a shit ton of other reasons the north would get blown the fuck out. +--- 57888232 +>>57888183 +The most recent failure of this strategy is less than a year ago, what has changed since then which would make it work now? +--- 57888290 +>>57888183 +>terrorist/larper cope disproved by Ukraine + +The roundheads beat the cavaliers in England. +The roundheads beat the cavaliers in America. +I don't think the third attempt will be the exception to the rule. +--- 57888303 +>>57888112 +>cares more about muh guns than democracy and human freedom +Vatnig induced gunceldom. Post 2020 vintage. You're the tourist my friend. +--- 57888314 +>>57888303 +This is /k/. I care more about my guns than my own blood. I would watch millions die for cool guns. +--- 57888315 +>>57888232 +Where did this tactic fail in a civil conflict setting? + +Population density is the real killer here and "the north" has several more concentrated city centers that are surrounded by miles of territory friendly to the South if we are going to sprinkle politics into this. This isn't like fighting an invading outside force these are people who know your language, your terrain, your tactics and where best to strike to maximize the use of limited resources. Austin, Miami, and Atlanta might be sympathetic to the northern cause and attacks aimed at disrupting citizens who aren't involved in the fighting could easily turn them against the other side. + +But if you cut off the power to Chicago for just one month the entire city will be consumed by gangs turned into petty warlords. +--- 57888441 +>>57888290 +>terrorist/larper + +No but I did spend ten years of my life deploying to active war zones every other year fighting a guerilla war against a poorly armed and equipped native population bent on kicking us out of their country. + +The borders between states are pretty porous and it's rather easy for people in the south to go north and cause havoc for the Yankees. You get even half the kind of coordinated effort to eliminate political leaders and command structure that we saw in Iraq or Afghanistan on our own soil and that "civil" war is going to turn into hell on earth for the northerners. + +Remember kid, "the Democrats" lost the last civil war and I don't think they really have the balls to fight a second one. Because let's be honest that's what we're really talking about here. Upstate New York mountain man wouldn't give a flying fuck what happened to those mincing cry babies in the cities that keep turning his state into a liberal hell hole because they don't realize what works for Manhattan doesn't work for Johnstown. +--- 57888472 +>>57888093 + Before the last war, my ancestors were Underground Railroad train robbers. + + They wold jack the locomotives and open the boxcars and return the runaway contraband slaves to their lawful owners. + + They were very well thought of throughout the slaveholding states for this Public Service. +--- 57888612 +>>57888303 +Russians get the bullet too, graboid tourist +--- 57888653 +>>57888472 +Underground Railroad wasn't an actual railroad you mouth-breather. +--- 57888654 +>>57888472 +Holy shit man thats wild. Imagine the fucking kino gunfights of steam powered trains through crystal tunnels and burning coal pits. A single stick of tnt from a witless train robber could bring the whole tunnel down. Golly. +--- 57888679 +>>57888164 + How about the non-southerners that would join the Secession? + + Or do you think you’re universally beloved north of the Mason Dixon line and in the Midwest and West? + + If you could see over that mountainous ego, you’d realize just how much the Coastal TrotskyiteJoo culture and those that enforce it are fucking despised. +--- 57888689 +>>57888314 +Finally, someone who gets it +--- 57888692 +>>57888183 +“No mercy for Starbucks, boys! Give ‘em cold steel!” +--- 57888713 +>>57888653 +This man is a liar, don't believe him +--- 57888729 +>>57888315 +>Chicago for just one month the entire city will be consumed by gangs turned into petty warlords< + +Oh wait…did I miss the memo and the war has already begun then? +--- 57888751 +>>57888653 + You want to ride, you buy a fuckin’ ticket like everyone else, you fucking Hobo! +--- 57888798 +>>57888315 +>dude just cut off the power to Chicago for a month straight, no one will care to stop you from attacking millions of civilians +--- 57888802 +>>57881625 (OP) +A second American civil war would not be between northern and southern states and would not consist of 2 opposing forces fighting in the open in a big empty field. It would be between isolated major cities and everyone else and look a lot more like the Iraq insurgency than probably anything else. Think federal troops going on heavily armed patrols around the cities and into the suburbs, and carrying airstrikes and on-the-ground massacres on select rebel population centers to try to scare the rest into capitulating to DC dominion. Rebels tactics would be mostly centered on ambushes and sabotage with IEDs, sniper attacks, and driveby shootings. + +The war would be decided by whether or not DC and the major cities could steal enough food to keep the fight going until they depopulate the rest of the country. But even if they did manage to win, it would probably be difficult to convince enough foreigners to move to the now bombed out farmlands and work as a slave-like underclass for the benefit of wealthy masters in those major cities. + +Remember that the Bolsheviks only beat the Whites because the Whites were divided into many factions and didn't have easy access to weapons. Rural Republicans have more weapons on average than city Democrats, so if they could manage to unite and deny the cities food, power, and water, they probably could pull off a win. It would mostly depend on the inciting incident and how well each side can manage to spin their messaging. +--- 57888822 +>>57888798 +No humans live in cities. The rats would eat each other before mounting any kind of significant counteroffensive +--- 57888847 +>>57888303 +/k/ is a single issue board you tourist faggot, there IS nothing more important than gun rights. All rights come from gun rights, and only those with guns have rights. +--- 57888856 +>>57888847 +>>57888612 +I hope we invent a cure for gunceldom some day. It's sad to see Russia bots like this on /k/. +--- 57888898 +>>57882423 +>Had the CSA carried the war into the North, even if only as large scale cavalry raids against industrial and economic targets, many governors would have kept their forces at home to guard the mills rather than march them off to Virginia. +2 points: +1. They tried to attack DC and failed. +2. Even if they had succeeded and taken the city, the Union government would have simply relocated north to Philadelphia and continued the war. + +The real problem with the CSA, and really why it could NOT win, was that it outproduced the north in things that don't matter in a war: cotton, tobacco, citrus fruit, etc. The north had a larger free population, exclusive access to immigrants, more guns, more trains, more factories, more ships, the majority of the already trained army and navy, and international recognition. The south had cash crops, fruit, slaves eager to rebel, and untrained militiamen that didn't mostly didn't understand the specifics of how war was fought at that time. +--- 57888949 +>>57887774 +>Durr if you guns than u Russia +Lol what the fuck do you think the second amendment is for you idiot? America was founded on successful civilian uprising. We're a nation of armed rebels eternally threatening the society around us. +--- 57888951 +>>57888822 +>just kill millions of civilians +Then the US would respond by turning the South into a radioactive pit in retaliation now that any shadow of a doubt that coexistence with Southerners would be impossible post war has been removed. +--- 57888959 +>>57888951 +The US is whoever who would wall off the mutated animals that live in the cities and let them eat each other. +--- 57888979 +>>57888856 +No gun +--- 57889011 +>>57888856 +You don't belong here, tourist. Go find someone who actually owns a gun to shoot you since you can't do it yourself. +--- 57889020 +>>57881625 (OP) +Anybody strong enough to secede and get away with it is ultimately strong enough to conquer the rest of the states, as such, there is no incentive to stay divided. + +So fuck off. Whether its California, or New England or Texas or the South, it aint happening. +--- 57889038 +>>57888951 +You think that a civil war will go nuclear? + +Where are all those ICBM silos located again? Oh right, deep in "red" territory. Good luck with that. The best you could hope for is a handful of smaller tactical warheads carried by tomahawks. That is if the active Military doesn't just sit it out and side with "The South" declaring martial law until a new government can be set up. + +Take a good look at this map. Support for "The North" is isolated and surrounded backed up against the sea with hundreds of miles of hostile countryside between them. But go ahead, drop a Nuke on Atlanta and do us all a favor. +--- 57889232 +>>57889038 +Not that anon, but what that map doesn't show is population density. Or rather it does, with the red areas having very low density and the blue very high. The upside of this is that the Blues can't use nukes even in revenge attacks because they would not have any target rich regions to justify the use of a nuke. Also, any country that starts nuking its own people will immediately lose a lot of international support and may even lose diplomatic relations. The only way that nukes get used is as a last ditch revenge weapon by the Feds if they are surrounded in DC and about to lose. + +Again, it's not about territorial holdings. Modern civil war is about killing the enemy, the ability to keep yourself and your side alive and well, and most importantly MESSAGING. The side that gains popular support will eventually win. The Feds can airstrike civilians all day long but it doesn't help their cause if the cities can't get food because farmers are refusing to send the food or the highways are choked by ambushes. Or the water pipes are blown up. Or the transformers are shot and the cities descend into criminal chaos at night. And no amount of the NYT and CNN propaganda will be able to justify cell phone video of Fed troops turning their M2s on soccer moms. + +Another thing that you have to keep in mind is that while the smart weapons the Feds have are very impressive and there really is no good counter for them, they are very limited in number, and every smart bomb used on an unarmed protestor or lone farmer is a smart bomb that can't be used against the PRC when they attack Taiwan and cut off the 90% of the global supply of microchips. Smart weapons are best reserved for high value targets, using them on isolated rural people is a waste. And nothing happens in a vacuum; hostile world powers would absolutely take advantage of this situation. + +Again, civil war is not what it used to be. It would be more like the Iraq insurgency. Terrorism by rebels and massacres by Feds +--- 57889250 +>>57889038 +>the military is going to turn against the government that employees them and side with the group that's seceding +Are you retarded? +--- 57889273 +lots of warlords +--- 57889294 +>>57889232 +>terrorizing people will win and make them hate their rightful government +9/11 and Ukraine proved this meme wrong. +--- 57889376 +>>57882225 +>M1A3s +We're still on M1A2s +--- 57889385 +>>57889038 +You think foreign support + aid would go to pro globohomo multicultural coastal blue states or xenophobic white christian landlocked states? asking for a friend. +--- 57889387 +>>57884739 + +lmao it is literally the moonface lady. Also, white woman, get to the back of the procession. This is a BLACK nation now! +--- 57889393 +>>57881625 (OP) +If it had massive public support then more than likely the Government had fucked up big time and the military units would be ordered to stand down by Generals. Not to mention almost everything maintained by the Government would stop over night. +--- 57889394 +>>57889294 +>terrorizing people will win and make them hate their rightful government +You don't have very good reading comprehension. +>most importantly MESSAGING. The side that gains popular support will eventually win. +>It would be more like the Iraq insurgency. Terrorism by rebels and massacres by Feds +And yes, the Feds would absolutely massacre civilians. They've done it before in both war and peacetime, they absolutely would do it during a civil war. Again, ignore 1861, remember Iraq, Ruby Ridge, Waco, Wounded Knee, the My Lai Massacre, etc. Terrorist ambushes by rebels, massacres by Feds. +--- 57889436 +>>57881625 (OP) +I dont think a Civil War would be along straight lines. It'd be something like urban centers vs rural areas. +--- 57889464 +>>57885523 +>the first one says whites should be genocides preemptively to protect PoC Americans +How did you get that from >>57884875? +--- 57889561 +>>57883086 +Did you ever ending up getting the jab? +--- 57889565 +>>57889436 +It would be a fast civil war because once the rural counties orbiting the urban centers turn off the roads and supplies....the faggots and niggers from the "inner loop" comes looking for food. That's where the guns start going off. +--- 57889576 +>>57889565 +>hehe once we surround Kyiv and Kharkiv the hohols will surrender +>hehe once we surround Chicago and LA the liberals will surrender +around the world conservatards share the same delusions +--- 57889587 +>>57889394 +>MESSAGING. The side that gains popular support will eventually win. +"AAAAAAAAA we'll destroy electricity and kill fellow Americans because we hate our imaginary concept of the government" isn't a popular message outside the schizo bubble. It's just terrorism, and Americans pay good tax money to hunt down the people who try it outside minecraft. +--- 57889613 +>>57889576 +Do you think your epicurean whole food onions stores just magically get food on the shelves? The best way to kill leftards is have the truckers stop delivering food. +--- 57889628 +>>57881625 (OP) +--- 57889629 +>>57889613 +yeah man it will work for you I'm sure when not even a professional army could do it +--- 57889640 +Why does every civil war thread on /k/ devolve into retards going on about how they want large scale attacks on civilians, as if the side doing those attacks wouldn't be treated as a North Korea tier pariah state even if they did exist after the war? +--- 57889645 +>>57889628 +Las Vegas as the capitol? +--- 57889650 +>>57889613 +And why would the truckers stop doing their jobs? +--- 57889663 +>>57889613 +>a general strike! +Sorry sweetie you owned yourself with right-to-work laws. +>I didn't mean that, I meant my purely imaginary terrorists would blow up every road, bridge, and murder thousands of innocent truckers and nobody will stop them or replace them because trucking is impossible to learn and so is self defense and Americans will never fight back to defend America against the murderers trying to starve American children to death. Especially if they control the media and can tell everyone about it! +Unlike the Midwest, coastal cities actually have the option of pressing a button on their bank account and importing food directly to their city via port, and they have the money to do it too. They can eat caviar and French wine while you burn down your own fields to own the libs. +--- 57889684 +>>57881625 (OP) +I don't think they can. The dumb sons of bitches live on the government's teat and they're incapable of governing themselves. Once access to the major markets and funding for their infrastructure it'll all revert back to wilderness and swamp. + +The only thing they'll have going for them is oil and that's an easy fix on Uncle Sam's part. +--- 57889704 +>>57889587 +>Turning off the lights +It's just property bruh. Insurance will cover it. + +Seriously, the fate of the civil war will come down to the inciting incident and cell phone video. There is no way to put a positive spin on Feds drone striking pre-schools and gunning down protestors. The rebels lose if they are perceived as the aggressors and the Feds would lose if they are perceived as the aggressors. And don't try to tell me that the Feds wouldn't be the aggressors or that they wouldn't commit war crimes. They have a long history of murder and even the occasional genocide when they feel threatened. +--- 57889713 +>>57888183 +>Target the water sources +You mean the FEMA federally funded water source that is currently keeping Jackson, Mississippi from being Mad Max tier? +Basically all the southern states are net tax consumers because they are dick broke and don't fund their own infra well. +--- 57889746 +>>57889704 +>don't try to tell me that the Feds wouldn't be the aggressors +Why, do you need a safe space for your revolution fantasy? +The Feds aren't the ones larping about starving the masses and cutting life support to hospitals. It's easy for them to be the good guys. They protect life, liberty, and property against the terrorists trying to tear it all down. + +Just what conservatives claimed to want during the BLM riots. +--- 57889752 +>>57889704 +I have a feeling they would probably stop short of deliberately targeting preschools considering we didn't even do that in Afg or Iraq without them being used as terror camps or whatever, or the occasional mistaken identity incident like lighting up a wedding because they just figured a bunch of young men in one place with celebratory guns looked vaguely like a terror training camp. + +If we WANTED to do terror bombing we could do a lot more than what the US is accused of in Iraq and Afg. Blowing up a bunker of civies in Iraq due to an intel fuckup is just that, a fuckup. If we wanted to start making Linebacker III look like a joke, we wouldn't have invented the slapchop and switchblade 300 and SDB specifically to avoid it. +--- 57889774 +>>57881625 (OP) +Good luck securing the military bases there. +It would be a complete bloodbath. +You'd have various factions of police, civilians, and military deserters fighting an insurgency against the federal US government. +>>57882293 +I agree with this anon. +The OP lacks significant context. +--- 57889786 +In this scenario the South will get its ass handed to it. There may be more industry in the South but its demographics are heavily compromised by Mexicans and other brown people from South America. I don’t think a successionist South has the financial power to take care of them AND wage a large war against financial power of the North. +--- 57889796 +>>57889752 +>I have a feeling they would probably stop short of deliberately targeting preschools +Larpers make up hyper-evil shit for the feds to do daily in their fantasies (like Assange with the 'Collateral Murder' editing) because they want to feel they're the lesser evil while they fantasize about mass-murdering bystanders and destroying civilization. +--- 57889811 +>>57889746 +>The Feds aren't the ones larping about starving the masses and cutting life support to hospitals. +>They have a long history of murder and even the occasional genocide when they feel threatened. +But I will admit that I used imprecise language. I should have said "don't try to tell me that the Feds would never be the aggressors or that they wouldn't commit war crimes." + +And the current feds do not protect life, they're fighting legal battles to protect industrialized infanticide. They don't protect liberty, they create laws to curtail liberty, especially the rights protected in the US Constitution. And they don't protect property, they take in through taxes and inflation and support local DAs that release criminals arrested for serious violent crimes. Major cities like LA, NY, and Minneapolis (this one I know from personal experience) are becoming unlivable. +--- 57889816 +>>57889704 +>There is no way to put a positive spin on Feds drone striking pre-schools and gunning down protestors. +When the government is mostly 'nonamericans' and zombies anyways, and the Federal agents and military have been thoroughly purged and selected for hatred of Americans, they won't need to put a spin on it. + +Just list it as enemies destroyed. 99% of people don't understand tat what is done overseas is brought back home. Drug "wars" etc etc. Its just brought back home. +--- 57889828 +>>57889704 +>Feds drone striking pre-schools and gunning down protestors. +Why would they, especially the later? + +>And don't try to tell me that the Feds wouldn't be the aggressors +Given how the vast majority of civil war discussion I see here and elsewhere plays out, along with how the US Civil War played out, there's zero reason to believe they'd be the aggressors. There's zero reason for them to be the aggressors when they could just sit back, let the people seceding make the first move, and have massive news coverage of that event to significantly reduce the number of people who might be sympathetic to the people seceding. +--- 57889894 +>>57889752 +>>57889796 +I'm not making shit up. I read history. Wounded Knee, the My Lai Massacre, the Trail of Tears, the Biscari massacre, Operation Keelhaul, etc. The Feds are absolutely capable of awful shit because Feds are people and people are not angels. + +Power does not corrupt but it does attract people inclined to abuse it. If you assume the people in positions of power are morally perfect you will be blindsided by their abuses. If you assume the worst you can plan accordingly and be ready to counter them if they decided to abuse their power. +--- 57889899 +>>57889704 +This is posted from a non-American country. Literally just projecting exactly what Russia does. +--- 57889920 +>>57882703 +Texas literally has a military force. +--- 57889980 +>>57889899 +I live in Minnesota, just a few miles from Minneapolis. The only foreign country I've been to is Canada. And I don't support Russia because they were the aggressor. +--- 57890003 +>>57881625 (OP) +This entire scenario is pointless because if Conservatives started a 2nd American Civil War, it's not going to be among state lines but various areas in every state with infighting. +Think of how the South 'Continentals' were fighting amongst themselves more than fighting the British in the American Revolution. + +But if we go by OP, they need a knock out blow right when the war starts or they'll lose. +>Mum nukes +The American states would glass the entire confederation if the confederates were retarded enough to use a nuke on American soil. +--- 57890005 +>>57884042 +I like to hope that nobody on Earth could possibly "cream themselves" over thermonuclear war, but then I remember I'm on /k/. +--- 57890014 +>>57889894 +>but what about [things country X did to people who weren't from country X and were considered the enemy] +Oh no, just like every other country throughout history. Meanwhile every civil war discussion here is full of people psyching themselves up about how they would want to murder civilians in large numbers. +--- 57890020 +>>57889811 +Violent crime in NY is beneath the national average which remains low within modern recordkeeping. + +If you think NY is becoming unlivable, you should have seen that shit in the 2000s, or the 90s, or the 80s, or the 70s. +--- 57890025 +>>57889828 +>Why would they, especially the later? +For the same reason they displaced and exterminated entire native tribes. If politicians in DC think it is the most expedient way of achieving their immediately goals at least some will try to do it. +--- 57890056 +>>57890025 +>For the same reason they displaced and exterminated entire native tribes. +You aren't even from the US if you seriously believe this shit. +--- 57890064 +>>57890003 +What do Democrats and Socialists have to do with Republicans? The first 2 track but there's a disconnect with the 3rd. +--- 57890071 +>>57886240 +Bro theres a reason Thanksgiving exists. Bc a bunch of people thought "Yeah bro well just ______" but conditions said otherwise. And they had to let Squanto and his bruhs run nonstop train on their women bc no second try's +--- 57890073 +>>57887511 +reconquista muthafucka. Also we support the state's right to secede. Godspeed, Republic of Texas. +--- 57890087 +>>57889011 +now now, anon, we shouldn't contribute to statistics that will be used against us. A rope is good enough for anon. +--- 57890104 +>>57890056 +Did you not cover the Trail of Tears in school? Ethnic cleansing is genocide by another name. +--- 57890145 +>>57890064 +All 3 groups listed are conservatives since the only true and constant metric is ideology. Conservatives have always been the enemy of the US. Loyalists are conservatives, Confederates are conservatives, Nazis are conservatives, MAGA are conservative. +The fact you're trying to obfuscate that by bringing up political parties or groups only reconfirms that. + +Not that your distractions matter, if conservatives tried to stage a 2nd civil war, they'd lose again. The real question is will they get off with a slap on the wrist like last time, or be wiped from the face of the earth so their isn't a third attempt. +--- 57890148 +>>57890104 +>completely misses my point +Yeah, not from the US. +--- 57890278 +>>57890145 +I really have a hard time telling if you're serious or a chatbot. Conservatism is basically the philosophy of keeping the status quo. There is no such thing as a conservative revolution, it's a contradiction in terms. The Confederates and Nazis were not conservatives. The Confederates started a revolutionary war against their government. So did the National Socialist German Workers Party. Failing in your revolution doesn't make you conservative. + +>>57890148 +>completely misses my point +You didn't make a point. You just accused me of being a foreigner and ignored what I said. You are behaving a lot like the 4chan chatGPT bot that was on here not too long ago. +--- 57890279 +>>57890239 +>Keeping the status quo +You mean like the status quo of the British Monarchy, Slavery and authorarianism? +Good job proving all the groups listed are hard conservatives under your OWN definition. +--- 57890381 +>>57890278 +>You didn't make a point. +I did. Try to read up on the US some more before trying to inject your opinion on US issues. + +>hurr you're a bot +meds +--- 57890383 +>>57890279 +And before you complain about the term authoritarianism, you should read up on the works of Joseph de Maistre because while American conservatives will never admit it, he's effectively the father of American conservatism, especially their current contempt for democracy. +Or not even that, look at the era after the defeat of Napoleon in 1815 and what conservatives pushed then as a reaction to the french revolution, it was very much an authoritarian type state, either under the crown or some other guiding force. +--- 57890562 +>>57890381 +>I did. +No you didn't. You accused me of being a foreign agent for believing the Trail of Tears was an ethnic cleansing committed by the US government because politicians in DC saw that policy as a means of achieving their goals. I was born here and it really happened. I can accept the bad parts in my country's history, I don't think it's useful or acceptable to pretend they didn't happen. I'm not a bootlicker like you. +--- 57890608 +>>57890562 +>he still doesn't get it +--- 57890714 +>>57890608 +That you're a troll fishing for responses? Or that you're the latest iteration of this chatbot? +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efPrtcLdcdM [Embed] + +I made a point that the feds have in the past committed some pretty fucked up atrocities when it served their interests and that they probably would again in the event of a civil war. You said +>Why would they +Implying they would not. That's not a point. That's not a counterargument. That's begging the question. diff --git a/k/57881909.txt b/k/57881909.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2c5023f046e863731d2313d0e1047e1e78c37e85 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57881909.txt @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +----- +--- 57881909 +How gay is the navy really? +--- 57881919 +>>57881909 (OP) +gayer than you +--- 57881935 +about 1 +--- 57881971 +>>57881909 (OP) +im gay and im in the naby +--- 57881991 +>>57881909 (OP) +Pretty fucking gay, but not half as gay as you, OP. +--- 57882053 +>>57881909 (OP) +About tree fiddy +--- 57882139 +I work on a navy base and every time i open grindr i see alot of navy guys +--- 57882289 +>>57882139 +Based faggot retard +--- 57882330 +Not very. Air Force has a higher percentage, but that's mostly because they have the higher per capita of desk jockeys. + +t. Navy aviation guy who had to put up with a bunch of bullshit at USAF bases. +--- 57882364 +>>57881909 (OP) +Only 2 out of the 6 Village People were gay, a rate of only 33%, so statistically the Village People were less gay than the Navy +--- 57882386 +>>57881909 (OP) +Pretty gay but not as gay as the USMC. It’s just that the Navy runs interference for the Marines so they don’t feel bad. +--- 57882414 +>>57882139 +I think you might be onto something anon +--- 57883817 +>>57882386 +Marines are some of the most homophobic homosexuals I've ever seen on this planet. +--- 57883823 +>>57881909 (OP) +nonstop fucking and sucking 24/7/365 +--- 57883867 +>>57882330 +Air force is definitely gayer with all their rules on useless bullshit, what platform? E6? +--- 57883878 +>>57881919 +that's pretty fucking gay +--- 57883986 +>>57882330 +Based. +verification not required +--- 57884022 +Pretty fucking gay, op. +--- 57884118 +I had a guildie in wow classic named shemail +he was from san diego and he was gay and in the navy +--- 57884411 +my cousin is in the RN and he hinted at it being quite gay but that could be banter +I was on board the HMS Dauntless last summer and there were flyers/posters quite literally everywhere about using condoms and such +--- 57884444 +>>57883823 +sneed +--- 57884538 +>>57881909 (OP) +its not gay if its underway +--- 57886584 +>>57884444 +checked +--- 57886589 +>>57881909 (OP) +Depends how gay you want to make it +--- 57886616 +>>57881909 (OP) +I remember about 13 years ago seeing an ad for the Royal Navy and the photo really looked like a sailor bumming another one over a barrel. +--- 57887770 +>>57882386 +and the USMC run interference on Ram Ranch in their Ford Raptor trucks +--- 57887788 +>>57887770 +Under lockdown. UNDER SIEGE +--- 57887795 +>>57883817 +I doubt they are better then the world class russians when it comes to that +--- 57887835 +It’s part of national security. +--- 57888931 +>>57887835 +>>57881909 (OP) +the colors are for identifying who does what on the ship +--- 57890676 +>>57881909 (OP) +Its not gay if underway and its not queer if tied to the peer. +--- 57890749 +>>57881909 (OP) +My boss in the navy hazed people by playing cave explorer so pretty gay +--- 57890965 +>>57881909 (OP) +I checked out a gay bar in Honolulu and it was full of Navy lesbians who worked in the port driving forklifts and so on +--- 57891239 +>>57890965 +Is that a hotdog in its mouth? +--- 57891275 +There is absolutely no homosexuality within the British Navy, and by that I mean there is some. +--- 57891474 +>>57881909 (OP) +Not as gay as pop media makes you think when I was in. + +If you want to be gay in military, join the marines. You want be disappointed. diff --git a/k/57881980.txt b/k/57881980.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..01957314fa87a86dd920c9a61d13f6630cbd5f4f --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57881980.txt @@ -0,0 +1,473 @@ +----- +--- 57881980 +>Image Limit Reached +>Last Thread>>57853546 → + +"Bad boys, whatcha want +Watcha want, whatcha gonna do? When sheriff John Brown come for you? Edition +--- 57882023 +>>57881980 (OP) +good shooting atf-chan! +--- 57882234 +I like the russian police sniper lady +--- 57882303 +>>57881980 (OP) +You have zero humanity if you enjoy watching Moeshitter shows. For most of human history, the stories passed down for generations have largely been epics in the form of religious prose, poetry, or song. This is because people enjoy hearing a good story of heroes and warriors triumphing over evil, getting past obstacles and going on a long journey like the Odyssey or the Epic of Gilgamesh. From these old stories came derivations which birthed genres like comedy, tragedy, satire, romance etc. These ancient stories have persevered in the modern era and has given forth new stories in the anime industry. Shounen as a genre is as big as it is because it has the same themes that make it comparable to an ancient epic. Romance and comedy come after because they too share these characteristics. But with Moetrash, you don't get any of that historical tradition. You have a group of cute girls doing nothing for as many chapters as possible. They do normal life activities like school or hanging out but contextualized with terrible satirical writing from a 40 year old otaku mangaka who never had a social life and thus can only guess how a young japanese girl would act. You as a reader are only observing boring and ordinary people and come away with no sense of awe or wonder. Really, you just consume a fictional character's life like a mindless normalfaggot browsing their favorite celebrity on IG. And while every reader has vicariously lived through the characters they enjoy, what does the moeshitter worship? A hero? A villain? A tragic character? No one. Just a retarded 14 year old chuuni girl written as a terrible overused trope. +I will never watch a single episode of moeshit ever in my entire life. +--- 57882331 +>>57882303 +That's a lot of words; too bad I ain't reading them +--- 57882332 +>57882303 +>opinion of shounentard +--- 57882461 +Decided to check citadeldev's Twitter since I hadn't in a while and yep they're still hard at work +>Fucking big female kid, named Tallboy-chan (tentative) for now. More detail and cuteness. +--- 57882683 +mecha? +--- 57882690 +>>57881987 +Great now I have to worry about her doing two things to my dog +--- 57882729 +>>57882683 +I'll never forgive respawn for falling into the BR trap and not working on TF3 or fixing TF2 +--- 57882742 +>>57882461 +I see he's a Battletech fan. +--- 57882746 +>>57882103 +Wow cute dog +--- 57882750 +>>57882461 +God, the citadel was so good, such satisfying shooting. Want to recommend it to my friends but I’m not sure how many could stomach a screen full of femboy chunks at all times +--- 57882764 +>>57882303 +>mucho texto +Anime website and cute things are cute +--- 57882807 +>>57882729 +the vibe I get from the few actual dev interviews they do is basically this +>much of the old guard who made TF1 are long gone +>EA has flooded the studio with new hires like they do with any studio they control +>the new devs think they're the real shit since their borderline asset-flip of a BR has made more money than TF1 and TF2 combined +>everyone still calls the titanfall games the better games +>this leads to the new devs just kind of hating Titanfall and "Titanfall fans" +>TF3 development has been completely shutdown and we probably won't hear anything about it for years if ever at all +you're better off hoping for a spiritual successor from someone else at this point +hell +even if you got TF3 it would almost certainly ultrahomo garbage +--- 57882820 +MP +--- 57882862 +>>57882039 +CUTE DOG +--- 57882933 +>>57882026 +What's going on in this version of Kabukicho that she needs an OICW and Carl Gustav? +--- 57882943 +>>57882303 +k +--- 57882951 +>>57882303 +MORE (you)S +REPLY TO HIM MORE +--- 57882961 +>>57882742 +Yep. He's a westboo in general and even watches Forgotten Weapons, Lord Mandalore, etc +>>57882750 +Who knows it could awaken something for them +--- 57882965 +>>57882739 +>preforming duties +--- 57882974 +https://youtu.be/PvCfdTJGVcw [Embed] + +Would you ever do EOD? Would you do it if your teammates were nervous South American cat girls? +--- 57883072 +>>57881980 (OP) +>shooting the dog +Based. +--- 57883080 +You're under arrest! +--- 57883134 +Simon Polivar +--- 57883301 +>>57882319 +Chobis chobis... +--- 57883433 +Tomboy Erica +--- 57883450 +>>57883433 +Tell us more. +--- 57883462 +>>57882961 +> Who knows it could awaken something for them +That’s what I’m afraid of +--- 57883469 +My wife trying to kill me in my sleep. +--- 57883474 +>>57881980 (OP) +>>57881987 +>>57882010 +>>57882026 +>>57882045 +>>57882062 +reminder: all lolis are FBI -agents +--- 57883487 +>>57883474 +2/3 +--- 57883497 +>>57883487 +3/3 +remember to shoot any lolis coming to your door on sight. +--- 57883519 +>>57883450 +Makes her the cutest +--- 57883636 +Ummmm Ostwind what is this? +You're only supposed to draw black women if they have big asses. +I don't see a bakery. +Hell I don't even see a cookie stand. +--- 57883657 +>Anon! Anon! Katyusha just wake up and found Katyusha body is all grown up! Now you can't called Katyusha a "little one" anymore! + +What would you do? +--- 57883665 +>>57883636 +>Rolanda forever! +--- 57883800 +>>57883657 +Try wake myself from this nightmare. +--- 57883837 +>>57883657 +Still call her shorty unless she's over 6'1" like me. +--- 57883875 +>>57883657 +one word: anzu +--- 57883919 +>>57883800 +Armpitpussy +--- 57884262 +>>57883301 +I want to r4pe the heckin' Choberino +--- 57884630 +>>57883925 +I want to impregnate this officer +--- 57884873 +FSB are police +--- 57884992 +>>57882424 +do you prefer mecha with scaled-up infantry guns or mecha with autocannons bolted on? +the manga version of the helldiver has a giant uzi instead of the bushmaster cannon, it kinda matches up with the shinohara AV's all having pistols so it was kinda neat +--- 57885057 +>>57885010 +repopulating nakadashi bareback sex with Ukrainian girls!!!! +--- 57885062 +Alright /ak/, tell me, what kind of girls do you like? What's your type? + +I'll share mine to break the ice. A tall blond woman with a plump figure and hints of muscle. +--- 57885075 +>>57885062 +Very smart, plain with a nice ass and long hair. +Basically my wife. +--- 57885082 +>>57885062 +tall tomboys +--- 57885140 +>>57885062 +Red hair, around my height, not skinny but not fat, legs of someone that rides bikes in their spare time, face that is a seemingly impossible combination of beauty and girl next door cuteness. If it sounds like I'm describing a specific person, it's because I am. +--- 57885147 +>>57885062 +A cute brown skinned girl +--- 57885377 +>>57885062 +Taller, with a nice chest, a pretty face and in good health. That honestly covers anything physical. What is more important to me is that's she's honest, loyal, kind, and intelligent. Hopefully she shares a good deal of my views and interests too. Having a carbon copy of yourself is no good however since you will fail to complement each other and just run all that harder into issues you don't see. Conflict is good in small amounts as it helps you grow as a person. Oh yeah and she's got to like funs, if she doesn't like funs it's just not going to work out +--- 57885904 +>>57885140 +You have asked her out right? +--- 57885996 +>>57882729 +The worst part is that Respawn WANTS to work on TF3. They're just trapped by their BR game and aren't allowed to make singleplayer or PvE content for the Titanfall universe. They keep trying to sneak in PvE events into Apex, but the playerbase always complains about them. +--- 57886027 +>>57885062 +unironically, a slightly dumb, chubby girl with a 6 or 7 face. +If life experience has taught me anything she won't be as likely to cheat and a little bit of extra padding on the frame can be a benefit. +--- 57886283 +>>57882026 +>a can on the fucking OICW +I didn't think that thing could get any more mall ninja, but that ought to do it. +--- 57886334 +>>57884630 +From the thumbnail it looks like someone groping her boob +The bowl is a bra cup and the rice is lace trim +>>57886283 +It looks like it's going to get in the way of the grenade launcher too +--- 57886348 +>>57883474 +>Venezuelan flag +>FBI +Suspicious. +--- 57886353 +>>57885904 +Not as such, but she knows how I feel about her. Her reaction upon finding out was the same one you would have if a dog was humping your leg. Being a genetic dead end, I get why she would have that reaction. +--- 57886381 +>>57886027 +>If life experience has taught me anything she won't be as likely to cheat and a little bit of extra padding on the frame can be a benefit. +It really is true that the fugly ones are the best. +An ugly wife truly is a treasure in the home. + +Hot girls have been taught the lesson that they are valuable simply by being pretty all their lives. 19 times out of 20 a very pretty girl will enter relationships under the assumption that the relationship is beneficial for both parties simply because she is there at all. They're not gonna clean. They're not gonna cook. They're gonna be into weird shit and eat soap and play with their poop. The girls who look like models and know it are too be avoided at all costs if you're just a regular guy interested in having a happy long-lasting marriage. + +Finding a girl who is an actual 9/10 or 10/10 and ISN'T insane or self-centered is like winning the lottery, and in reality is really only something you'll be able to achieve if you yourself are already an incredibly high-value male. Even if you are a 10/10 gigachad it probably isn't something you'll ever get. Just find a loyal ugly dumbass and marry her. +--- 57886409 +>>57886353 +Yeah I understand that too damn well bud. +Do it anyway though. For formality. +--- 57886452 +>>57886409 +I haven't seen her in 3 years, and if I ever want to again I need to play my cards very carefully. I would trade everything I own just for a shot with this woman, I still remember how it felt to be around her, I would do anything to feel like that again. +--- 57886460 +>>57882303 +Alright dude, im not reading all of that +--- 57886462 +>>57886381 +>6 or 7 +>fugly +>ugly wife +We have very different opinions on ugly friendo. +A 6 is above average, a 7 is downright cute/pretty +--- 57886580 +>>57885062 +Dark or brown hair +Pale skin +Almond brown eyes +Hourglass figure +Cute feet and hand +Dress in black +--- 57886633 +>>57886381 +I thought I would be fine with just fucking a dumbass, not even marrying one, and I can't do it. This bitch asked me how many moons the earth has and at this point I think it might be taking advantage of a developmentally delayed person if I get a BJ. +--- 57886649 +>>57886633 +Dude, trust me, midwit women will be the bane of your fucking existence if they're not already. +Women who are extremely intelligent and/or have aspergers can be a treat, but women who are in the middle of the bell curve are such a fucking pain to deal with. I'd rather have a semi retarded bitch that I can just say "eh don't worry about it babe, now go fetch me a beer" to and she'll calm down whenever she's panicking about some stupid shit +--- 57886717 +>>57886633 +wow yeah that's a little dumb for comfort +that's the kind of shit that implies they're gonna accidently electrocute themselves or a child at some point +--- 57886788 +>>57885010 +--- 57886855 +>>57885010 +>>57886788 +What's wrong with the left girl's ear? +--- 57886915 +I want to impregnate 416! +--- 57886956 +>>57882729 +It sucks I can't play TF1 anymore, and TF2 Northstar is too fucking sweaty for my scrub ass (at least when I tried it when it was first released with no attrition). +--- 57886967 +>>57886855 +nothing +the top of the ear is under the helmet +the bottom of the ear is exposed +there may be a small black earring +--- 57887066 +>>57885062 +The only real must-haves are: attractive face, a good mind, and a disposition amenable to homemaking. +Beyond that, my tastes are pretty varied, so it's hard to say what more I'd want. Maybe I'm just desperate and so I'm subconsciously trying not to pigeonhole myself and end up dying alone waiting for the perfect woman. + +That said, I've discovered a weakness for girls with serious class and refinement, and the sort that are either impossibly pure-hearted or hyper-manipulative alpha bitches. Also, big titties. +--- 57887081 +>>57886334 +lmao you're right +--- 57887856 +>>57881987 +>>57882010 +>>57882739 +>>57883474 +What's she gonna do, put me in handcuffs? +--- 57887867 +>>57885216 +That's a lot of witches. +--- 57888170 +Jack Daniels + Coca Cola? Man...Japanese are surely weird.. +--- 57888182 +>>57881469 → +Indian, but thank God she isn't some Hindu/Buddhist or whatever Ooga Booga religion they practice over there. +She's a Christian like every Good pious woman should be. +Plus she's really cute. +There's like 500,000,000 Indian woman, I've met atleast a hundred in my life time. +She's the only pretty one I've ever met. +--- 57888296 +>>57888170 +>he's never heard of Jack and Coke +Nigga YOU weird +--- 57888404 +>>57886855 +Nothing, human. Don't look at their hands either. There's nothing wrong with them. +--- 57888433 +>>57883080 +>We're work for the same agency you retards! +--- 57888449 +>>57883657 +Take her to a doctor because a growth spurt on that level should be basically impossible even with a brain tumor fucking up her growth hormones +--- 57888470 +>>57888182 +Indian women are funny like that, like 99% of them are doughy ass looking mustached bitches and then you have 1% that are actual hindu goddesses +--- 57888608 +>>57886915 +you keep on saying that. one of these days someone is going to beat you to it, and where will you be then? +--- 57888752 +>>57888182 +got that Br*tish mutt brahmin girl +--- 57888761 +>>57886462 +6/7 is average and I would say at that point its the personality that matters. +--- 57888948 +>>57888761 +>6/7 is average +Bro 5 is literally average, absolute top of the bell curve. +Just like your intelligence. +--- 57888991 +>>57888752 +British? +I live in the best country on earth! +--- 57888998 +Bongistani slampigs +--- 57889028 +>>57885062 +Mild to moderately autistic and somewhat tomboyish, to be fair though those kinda walk hand in hand since autism is basically just "extreme male brain syndrome." Everything else is pretty much optional, I do like taller girls, larger chests, and shorter hair but so long as those first two requirements are met I could live without those, even the way she dresses could be more feminine so long as her overall personality traits lean more toward tomboy. +Basically I just want a woman who I can talk to without wanting to blow my brains out to escape her endless droning about "did you see current thing?" +--- 57889102 +>>57888998 +I'll kindly ask you not to call Warspite a slampig. She's a more elegant warship from a more civilized age, and despite wounds suffered in the Great War affecting her performance she still gave her country her all in the second go-around. + +She deserved a better fate than the one she met, and so the least you could do is treat her with a little respect. +--- 57889177 +>>57889102 +Virgin babble +--- 57889212 +>>57888608 +Yeah I doubt it +--- 57889264 +>>57888608 +>>57889212 +Technically the Albanian is correct that no one can beat him to it, because you can't impregnate a fictional character +--- 57889420 +>>57889264 +I WILL impregnate my 416, I will not let logic or biology or morality stop me. +--- 57889446 +>>57882807 +I'm just waiting on Armored Core for my mech fix at this point +--- 57889460 +>>57885062 +95% metallic +--- 57889479 +>>57886855 +>>57888404 +I don't think it's AI generated, just AI upscaled. +--- 57889484 +>>57882303 +DragonBVLL… I kneel… +--- 57889490 +>>57889446 +it's already confirmed casualized and open world though +--- 57889497 +>>57885216 +>>57887867 +--- 57889508 +>>57889497 +the most recent strike witches have pants, no panty shots and no uncensored blurays +the east has fallen... +--- 57889548 +>>57889490 +>casualized +In what way? "it no longer requires spread sheets" is a line I can deal with crossing. +>open world +the maps were already fuck-off-huge, I doubt this will matter +--- 57889567 +>>57889508 +Shaft shall pay for this insult +--- 57889596 +>>57889548 +>>57889490 +The only stuff I've seen is interviews where they've said they'll be keeping the mission based structure of the old games. +--- 57889597 +Theoretically speaking, what would be the legality of hiding a firearm inside of a prosthetic limb? +--- 57889605 +>>57889597 +Probably falls under concealed carry, just like keeping a loaded one in the glove box does. +--- 57889614 +>>57889597 +disguising it as a prosthetic limb would make it an AOW, while simply concealing it within would probably just fall under your state's concealed weapons laws. +--- 57889618 +>>57889597 +AOW under NFA unless it's an antique +--- 57889691 +>>57889446 +Miyazaki is still in charge, I will be surprised if it's not just Dark Souls but with robots. +--- 57889745 +>>57889618 +>Local girl kills would be mugger with an 18th century blunderbuss hidden in her prosthetic arm +Now that would be an interesting news day +--- 57889759 +>>57889745 +pretty much exactly what I had in mind when I added that on +putting a gat in your peg leg or whatever seems like a very 19th century thing to do +--- 57889836 +>>57886348 +Lithuanian you mean +--- 57890089 +>>57888991 +I'm saying the most beautiful Indian women are bound to be Brahmin caste women from families who intermixed with local British nobility during occupation +>implying Br*tish people are pretty +prettier than your average poo +--- 57890180 +>>57889446 +>>57889691 +>just Dark Souls but with robots. +and that's a good thing +just give me mecha dark souls, but with a greater focus on speed and ranged elements +--- 57890336 +I like SKS's, they're comfy and easy to shoot +--- 57890380 +>>57890180 +>and that's a good thing + +No, making the exact same fucking game 15 times is not a good thing for anyone but braindead Fromdrones. +--- 57890393 +>>57890180 +Faggot. +--- 57890518 +>>57889691 +They specifically said "No, we're going for the gameplay of the old games" when asked that question verbatim. +--- 57890549 +>>57890518 +And you trust them? No one at fromsoft knows how to make an armored core game anymore. It will be souls slop parry simulator guaranteed. +--- 57890598 +>>57890380 +>Sekiro is the furthest from the general souls gameplay fromsoft has gotten in decades +>Then just releases Dark Souls again, except this time you get a horse you can only use for like one boss fight in the entire game +Kinda lame honestly, doesn't help that a fuckton of the bosses just felt cheap as fuck to try to encourage the new pocket summons +--- 57890659 +>>57890089 +indian and british women are simply all neanderthals +--- 57890673 +>>57890598 +I tried to like Sekiro because it's the closest we have to a current gen Tenchu, but it's just ninja dark souls, but with parry spam instead of roll spam. +--- 57890820 +>>57881980 (OP) +Do vat grown mooks count? +--- 57891293 +*snnniiiffff* +--- 57891309 +>>57890180 +>And that's a good thing +Go play your Elden Ring DLC, normalfaggot +--- 57891688 +>>57889490 +>>57889691 +>>57890180 +probably way too off-topic but the key art seems to indicate a return to third gen aesthetics and mecha design +i'd be surprised if the gameplay didn't follow as well diff --git a/k/57882231.txt b/k/57882231.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..646b5943bde211ad6c951300edb3f1c1ec711a95 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57882231.txt @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +----- +--- 57882231 +Why is our boy now shilling knifes that look like plastic toys +--- 57882291 +>>57882231 (OP) +>Has a store +Gee I wonder +--- 57882312 +>>57882291 +yes but toy knifes? +--- 57885144 +>>57882231 (OP) +it's Midgards-Messer, their whole thing is huge chunky stubby knives (sort if like Medford), and 3d printing +--- 57885151 +>>57882231 (OP) +Walter White? +--- 57885902 +>>57885151 +Willy grey +--- 57886269 +>>57882231 (OP) +>our boy + +Most definitely not + +He publically defaced his own grandfather's memory just for some good goy points +--- 57888202 +>>57886269 +JFC. Just let that sleeping dog lie instead. Anyone who would call Jeorg a nazi because he's German is retarded. diff --git a/k/57882766.txt b/k/57882766.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..859b866e34457e86f4efa25b25453e3eaf39a43b --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57882766.txt @@ -0,0 +1,131 @@ +----- +--- 57882766 +Why did SOCOM waste three billion dollars in a crop duster COIN CAS plane that weighs almost twice what the A-37 does, maxes out at half the speed, can carry significantly less ordinance, and doesn't even come with a HMG or autocannon pods? And the thing is bigger too. + +Is it just the easy assembly? Did they forget how to make lunch light aircraft and didn't know where to start after 60 years not doing it? + +This boy seems to BTFO the Skywarden in every way possible. It could even use guided A2A missiles (most likely for rotary wing but still). +--- 57882806 +>>57882766 (OP) +>jet vs prop +now post operating costs +--- 57882869 +>>57882766 (OP) +>Skywarden +It has an operating range of 1500 miles and the A37 has a ferry range of like 1000 miles...It can stay airborn for over 7 hours at cruise speed. +--- 57882871 +>>57882806 +Not OP but doesn't it make more sense to use something in the same class as a TB2? It's prop powered also and you can get a few at the cost of one of these COIN aircraft to make up for the lighter load capacity. I'm just confused how these relatively expensive props make sense for COIN relative to drones +--- 57882882 +>>57882766 (OP) +Should have bought more broncos +--- 57882883 +>>57882766 (OP) +Looks like a NATOfied SU25 +--- 57882893 +>>57882871 +>TB2 +and last six days in combat? pass +you need both manned and unmanned systems. neither obviates the other. +--- 57882952 +>>57882893 +Of course you can't really replace one with the other in either direction. My confusion lies in it being specifically for COIN. I assume for COIN stuff you're probably not going to be fighting anyone with MANPADS (otherwise I imagine the Sky warden is just as vulnerable because of how slow it is) so survivability shouldn't be a big deal relatively speaking. With a plane whose job is essentially going to just be lobbing PGMs at some insurgents, I can't see any obvious advantage to a manned aircraft of this size vs a larger UCAV +--- 57883018 +>>57882766 (OP) +>>57882883 +These things are TINY if you ever see one in person. Super low to the ground. It's like a Miata with wings. I want one. +--- 57883048 +>>57882952 +there's no guarantee insurgents won't come up with anti-drone weapons of their own. in fact, it's logical that eventually they WILL acquire anti-drone capability. so if you're the US military and you have the budget, you should spend it on having multiple ways of accomplishing your objectives. don't just pick the "best" option; have multiple capabilities with differing pros and cons, so the enemy can't win by exploiting specific weaknesses. +--- 57883152 +>>57882869 +You could replace the two GE turbojets with one modern small non-afterburning turbofan and you'd get the same thrust for half the fuel consumption. +--- 57883818 +>>57882766 (OP) +It's made for taking off and landing on shit-tier dirt airstrips in west-central Africa (Sahel), not paved runways. +--- 57883861 +>>57883818 +So was the A-37. It was for COIN in Vietnam, but it could still drop multiple 500lb napalm bombs and strafe. +--- 57883929 +>>57882952 +coinbros...it's over +--- 57884135 +>>57882766 (OP) +>Skywarden +$40 million each +>piece of shit it's based on +$1.5 million + +thats numberwang +--- 57885279 +>>57884135 +The difference is the piece of shit doesn't have the datalinks to accept targeting data for precision guided munitions, dumbass +--- 57885289 +>>57882766 (OP) +it looks badass thats why +--- 57885319 +>>57882869 +Skywarden only gets that max range by being filled up with drop tanks and being able to hold almost no weapons, whereas the tip tanks of the Dragonfly could hold weapons themselves. + +It could also climb to 41,000 feet, out of range of most insurgent AA likely to come at it. + +I think this is just an example of bad economies of scale and bloat. + +The US used to put out new fighters with runs as large as the F-15 like 5-6 a decade. Now it is all the same, expensive, shit. There is no infrastructure or scale for light CAS so we get insanely expensive upgraded crop dusters. +--- 57885430 +>>57885319 +tell me moar about the Skywarden's electronics and datalinks +--- 57885466 +>>57882766 (OP) +Oh, just stfu. You think you know everything. +--- 57885505 +It’s amazing how /k/ posters think they have even the basic qualifications to comment on this subject. Even a midwit should at least be able to infer things by asking questions like "Why don’t they use A-10s?" +--- 57885525 +>>57883929 +>Redeye +Lol, lmao even +--- 57887260 +>>57885505 +A-10s are big and require quality landing strips and fire expensive ammunition. + +The A-37 is tiny and can use rough, small strips and has a 7.62mm gun and can have more mounted, or 20mm, both of which are relatively cheap. +--- 57887287 +Wing pods are just peak aesthetic. F-89 Scorpion is the best of the lot. +--- 57887321 +>>57884135 +>this piece of shit from the 1960s is totally justasgood as something modern +also +>not accounting for inflation +Butler was the OG demoralized contrarian retard. Literally psy'opped /pol/ style by USSR sponsored propaganda +--- 57887607 +>>57887321 +>Butler was the OG demoralized contrarian retard. Literally psy'opped /pol/ style by USSR sponsored propaganda +Doesn't mean he wasn't right. +--- 57888107 +>>57882766 (OP) +OA-37s were cute but compare and contrast to its contemporary Bronco let alone Skywarden. I worked on Bronco and among OA-37 and O-2s for many years first at Sembach then at Shaw. Low intakes mean FOD. Good for people with nice clean training base runway and ramp areas or forward basing of the lavish US variety, but a Pilatus Porter it ain't. Fine for Tan Son Nut in a war with primitive enemy air defense in the field. Today is 2023 not 1973. Bronco, OA-37, and O-2 share the fate of taking up space at Shaw before being decommissioned. We expected that when they arrived. + +They were dumped like other bugsmashers for OA-10 (a redesignation with no difference) before that role was abandooned and Warthogs (not being fast or MANPAD-safe enough) went back to killing ragheads in constabulary ops. OA-10 was also at SW, signifying future end of program because SW is historically about fighters and carefully kept that way by ACC. + +>>57883861 +It was USED there like T-36 (a better fit) because there were many of them and they were cheap. Lots of that in SEA. + +>>57885319 +We don't need manned light CAS. The Mark 1 eyeball is attached to a tired beast busy flying the aircraft and needing to shit, piss and sleep. Manned aircraft for that MANPAD bait mission are retarded. + +SOCOM is of course late to the party. Behind the scenes the pro-bugsmasher groups pushed them hard when they were valid. Now they're really a waste of time vs. drones because they require CSAR etc but of course bugsmashers get bought forty years too late. + +A and OA-37 were fine in their day. It's over. SOCOM wants a reason to exist so it's doing a USMC buying weird shit to use for its lightfighter narcissists who want to fly something. + +Latin America likes 37s being a good fit for simple jets. Good aircraft for someone else. +--- 57888143 +>>57887260 +Drones can be launched from outside the theater or anywhere else and lack the absurd support burden of either A-10 or Skywanker or OA-37. Pilots are a limfac not an empowering agent. +--- 57888148 +>>57883929 +Can they even source coolant charges for that thing? +--- 57888159 +ooo ooooo i have oc to contribute +--- 57888492 +>>57882766 (OP) +ITT people that are so wonderfully or willfully ignorant and believing government/military acquisitions have something to do with something other than bribes kickbacks retirement packages for generals and political donations. diff --git a/k/57882920.txt b/k/57882920.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1738b03622bfdbddcd4e0b09a2c81009e210fd74 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57882920.txt @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +----- +--- 57882920 +He will never talk about the fact that when it was made during the 80's it was and still is faster than most IFVs, had much better armour than most IFVs, it's shells were far better for IFV common targets due to a larger 30mm calibre meaning more explosive filler for infantry and other soft targets. +It still has a form of horizontal stabilisation so it's not so bad as he makes it out to be since most of the time it was firing stationary anyway like the Bradley was. Warriortard over obsessed about clips too which really hold no bearing considering it's reliability and ease of use and reloading. +Several variations were proposed including an export variant with basically the Bradley turret for a different type of warfare as the orginal gun has slowly been outclassed. +It's been neglected with only sight upgrades, whereas the Bradley has slowly been upgraded over time in all manner of ways outside of armour. +It's a decent IFV that needs an upgrade +--- 57882972 +>>57882920 (OP) +Who are you responding to? Just buy Bradleys. The world doesn't need infinite diversity of vehicles. Caring is autism not sincerity about military equipment, and IFV do not need to chase perfection, they need to be many, standard and have high mission capable rates. NATO should have one MBT, one IFV, and as little variety as practical for manufacturing and support reasons. + +Vehicles are tools. Standardize or have a clusterfuck. +--- 57882983 +>>57882920 (OP) +Shame the upgrade package got cancelled. Pic related, stabilised 40mm cannon. +--- 57882990 +>>57882972 +Bradleys are obsolete garbage, hence why no one wants them besides Ukraine (for free). + +Serious countries buy Borsuk or CV90. +--- 57882999 +>>57882990 +bradleys are much better than borsuk and cv-90. Poor countries will always poor +--- 57883030 +>>57882990 +Poland isn’t an authority on military vehicles. CV-90 is a regional jobs program and there isn’t a single first world military that uses them. Bradley and puma are better +--- 57883126 +>>57882990 +Yea no one is going to fall for bait this poorly crafted +--- 57883277 +>>57882983 +>enormous turret +>lightly armoured body +>small tracks +Just buy more Boxers. +--- 57883611 +>>57882920 (OP) +Probably because it's 2023 and all that shit is irrelevant now. +--- 57884035 +>clips +--- 57884078 +>>57882990 +why is there a pole behind every bad post? you guys are the indians of white people. racism against the poles wasn't even on my radar before you started making yourselves known here +--- 57884240 +>>57884078 +good morning sir +--- 57886578 +>warriortard +--- 57886628 +>>57884078 +>why is there a pole behind every bad post +We got dozens of tourists from poland due to the war. +--- 57887604 +>>57882920 (OP) +>>57882990 +>List of IFVs with multiple hundreds of kills against Russian tanks: Bradley +>List of IFVs WITHOUT multiple hundreds of kills against Russian tanks: Warrior, CV-90, everything except for Bradley + +I know which one I'd want if I were fighting Russian tanks. +--- 57887890 +>>57887604 +This +--- 57887997 +I'm not caught up on this latest autism battle but I find it funny how one guy managed to get /k/ to defend this bong shitpile. +--- 57888361 +>>57882920 (OP) +> IFV common targets due to a larger 30mm calibre +The IFV common target is infantry and the RARDEN has a shit volume of fire. +RARDEN's only advantage vs other 80s autocannons is armor penetration +--- 57888405 +>>57882920 (OP) +--- 57888475 +>>57882920 (OP) +>>57888361 +Should've continued reading the rest of this tripe +>It still has a form of horizontal stabilisation. +It has zero gun/turret stabilization +Gunner and Commander has powered traverse +Gunner has manual elevation. +BGTI upgraded the sights so they are stabilised vertically to acquire targets on a short stop quicker, but the gun+turret remains unstabilised +>Warriortard over obsessed about clips too which really hold no bearing considering it's reliability and ease of use and reloading. +This would imply that other autocannons are like the Bushmaster and 2A42 are less reliable but this is just not true. +>ease of use +Bradley/BMP commander don't have to play loader after 3 rounds +>And that reloading is easy, +You do realise how the RARDEN loads ammunition is 1 round in the chamber and 5 rounds in the tray and when the round fires it moves the tray along. If the commander fucks up and doesn't load the next clip so the round order on the tray is +1 in the breach - 1 - empty - 1 - 1 - 1, he has to manually cycle the action to get past the issue of the empty slot in the tray. +--- 57888499 +>>57884078 +Why do Germoids constantly seethe about Poland? One cannot mention Poland here on /k/ without some Germoid throwing bitchfit. +--- 57888570 +>>57882990 +>>57884078 +>>57888499 +>t. the same seething vatnik that trying to get western nations to fight each other +--- 57888690 +>>57888570 +>t. Schizophrenic Germoid +--- 57889131 +>>57886628 +Yeah, Poland... +--- 57889489 +>>57882920 (OP) +never talk about 10 KB being for fucking ants diff --git a/k/57882923.txt b/k/57882923.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ac0a28edceae89f67e0507b762010ae9b254df92 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57882923.txt @@ -0,0 +1,45 @@ +----- +--- 57882923 +I like the butt stock from the AK12 because it was in lots of vidya. +Sadly my American buffer tube is too big for it’s butt hole. +Whats your favorite butt stock? +--- 57883027 +>>57882923 (OP) +The AK12 stock is just a worse puccian version of the Magpul CTR, stop being a fag +--- 57883058 +I just like it bros +--- 57883075 +CAR because muh sovl +--- 57883305 +>>57882923 (OP) +Wait a second... +--- 57883347 +>>57882923 (OP) +I think the newer ak12 stocks look cooler +--- 57883674 +Gun and butt in pic +--- 57883681 +>>57883674 +I may have significantly misinterpreted what this thread was about +--- 57883771 +>>57883674 +KemonoCHAD I kneel +--- 57883815 +Butthole stocks will always be goat. +--- 57886207 +>>57883075 +Good +--- 57886867 +>>57882923 (OP) +>tfw no SVD stock for AR in the USA because of sanctions +I wish I wasn't such a tard with CAD otherwise I'd make my own. +--- 57887009 +>>57886867 +why do you need cad? just draw it with a pencil and start carving +--- 57887222 +>>57887009 +I'd like to use CAD so I could replicate it and sell it +--- 57890200 +>>57883674 +>>57883681 +BASED BASED diff --git a/k/57883220.txt b/k/57883220.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1f7ca26c604da4012d806cc2a5d8bb9dafed7c0b --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57883220.txt @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +----- +--- 57883220 +could 410 bore be used for self-defense? +--- 57883225 +Sure. It's just not particularly good by any metric. +--- 57883249 +>>57883220 (OP) +better than nothing +--- 57883280 +A 410 slug is somewhere around 300 grains at 1500 fps. That's a pretty powerful round at short range +--- 57883322 +>>57883280 +You sure? Most slugs I see for 410 are 1/4 ounce, which is like 112 grains. +--- 57883364 +>>57883220 (OP) +Yeah, pretty well if you're using a long gun. .410 00 buckshot out of a proper shotgun (no Judge/Governor) is like hitting someone with three .22lr at the same time. Pretty solid. +--- 57883375 +>>57883322 +How does that work? Hollow base .40 S&W projectiles don't go below 135gr. +--- 57883401 +There's better options for the cost, but it weel keel. +--- 57883423 +>>57883375 +https://www.opticsplanet.com/sterling-gold-410-ga-1-4oz-2-5in-centerfire-shotgun-slug-ammunition.html +Looks like a foster type slug with the wad up it's butt. It's probably smaller than .40 also, on average. +--- 57883529 +>>57883364 +Are you retarded? 5 36 caliber balls going the same velocity as a 12 gauge is no different than 9. The only thing you guys should be debating about is the difference in pattern. Slugs are a different story. +--- 57884387 +It's great if you want to shoot invaders with something that will start a conversation +--- 57884422 +>>57883220 (OP) +Sure, it will do the job. It’s just not economically viable. If you happen to have a 410, just buy a box of slugs or 00 buck. It’s not like you are going to engage in a prolonged shootout with a squad sized element. +--- 57884844 +>>57883220 (OP) +Of course it can be. .410 buckshot is as lethal as any half a dozen pistol caliber holes through you. + +>>57883364 +At indoor ranges, even these meme guns (even those goofy giant derringers) are adequate. You're still going to put every pellet in a torso sized target. +--- 57885424 +>>57884844 +>At indoor ranges, even these meme guns are adequate. +>You're still going to put every pellet in a torso sized target. +Not necessarily. The Judge is literally only good against people at public restroom ranges. Pic related is the pattern at 1 (one) yard. +--- 57885554 +>>57885424 +The accuracy is horrifying. You could point the gun at someone's face with a cartridge of tri ball at 7 yards away and all 3 pellets could miss. That is simply unacceptable. 410 in a proper shotgun is fine but if I was forced to use a judge to defend myself I'd find some proper 45 colt asap +--- 57885702 +>>57883220 (OP) +Buy a punt gun as the bare minimum. +--- 57885842 +>>57885554 + +Isn't it good for snakes and shit, but you're supposed to load .45 Colt for defensive use? +--- 57885896 +>>57883220 (OP) +Yeah. +You can also use .45 long colt in the same gun if you want something a little spicier. +--- 57885913 +>>57883220 (OP) +I certainly wouldn't want to get hit by it. +--- 57885942 +>>57885554 +>>57885842 +I knew a guy that carried 410 slugs in a judge and he was a bit of an idiot psycho +--- 57885979 +>>57885896 +In most 410s that is not the case but I would really like a mossberg that can shoot 45 +--- 57886022 +If for some reason you have your heart set on using 410, you might want some rounds made specifically for self defense, I think they're loaded with three copper disks and a lead ball. +--- 57886069 +>>57885842 +Thats .410 birdshot. They make buckshot. +--- 57886087 +>>57885424 +>>57885554 +That is BIRDSHOT, not BUCKSHOT + +For fucks sake people. Lighter, smaller pellets spread faster. +--- 57886526 +>>57886087 +Half right. Your conclusion about buckshot being much better is correct, but your reasoning is wrong. The 000 buckshot loads don't spread much because all the pellets fit in a single row right down the center axis of the cartridge. Thus when the rifling spins them they are spun concentric with the bore just like a normal bullet fired from a rifle would be. This helps their stability. Smaller shot, on the other hand, is flung outward by the rifling because most of it is not in the exact center of the shell. Instead of being spun about the same axis it's traveling it's flung in an outward circular arc. +In a smoothbore gun there's little difference in pattern size between small and large shot proving that the shot size isn't what matters, it's how the shot interacts with the rifling that's important. + +But yeah, the buckshot loads don't spread anywhere near as much. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2AFQ368268 [Embed] +--- 57887047 +>>57886069 +>>57886087 +if you have some meme gun like a judge that can use both why the fuck would you use .410 buck instead of 45 colt if you were intending on shooting a person? +--- 57887070 +>>57883220 (OP) +No, it's physically impossible to harm someone with 410. If you were to attempt to shoot someone the slug will harmlessly bounce off their skin +--- 57887176 +>>57887047 +I never advocated it's use or against it, I just want to be realistic about what it does. +--- 57887721 +>>57883220 (OP) +No. +--- 57888024 +>>57885842 +Guns for snakes are generally dumb and IDK how the idea caught on. I've seen snakes survive ridiculous damage short of the head being outright removed. +--- 57888507 +>>57888024 +This. Snakes are our friends here in the desert. By the time you see a snake, fish your snake slayer out of your holster or bag, you could have just walked away. +--- 57888754 +>>57883220 (OP) +If you want to use it out of a judge, there are a couple of self defense specific rounds that will fuck someone up real bad. My favorite Winchester PDX. That said, I can't stand the Judge, grips are terrible and the dimensions are silly. +If you mean out of a long gun, it's fine for home defense but I'd rather have a 12 gauge. diff --git a/k/57883221.txt b/k/57883221.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b06cb0a7029adff3bcde2e9997ae0e36429a82ed --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57883221.txt @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +----- +--- 57883221 +Favorite books / field manuals? +--- 57883603 +bump +--- 57884619 +>>57884516 +Loved this one as a teen, what a throwback. +--- 57884700 +Boy Scout Handbook is worth mentioning, it has a lot of good information just make sure you don't get one of the really recent ones since they removed a lot of the useful information and replaced it with crap like reporting bullies, staying off drugs, etc. 1940's (5th) through 1980's (9th) editions are best. +--- 57886202 +>>57884379 +How many skills are there? +--- 57887056 +>>57886202 +9001 +--- 57887872 +A must read-Timothy McVeigh +--- 57887924 +>>57883221 (OP) +The best /k/ book +--- 57887949 +There is a great deal about war in the Bible +--- 57889698 +>>57883221 (OP) +Im rather fond of this one. +--- 57889805 +>>57883221 (OP) +https://www.marines.mil/portals/1/Publications/MCDP%201%20Warfighting%20GN.pdf +>>57883603 +https://sites.ualberta.ca/~enoch/Readings/The_Art_Of_War.pdf +>>57884379 +https://www.atu.edu/rotc/docs/stp_21-1-smct.pdf +>>57884516 +https://ia801404.us.archive.org/12/items/SasSurvivalHandbook/AppNee.com.SAS.Survival.Handbook.2nd.Edition_text.pdf +>>57887872 +https://www.militarynewbie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/TM-21-210-Improvised-Munitions-Handbook-1969-Department-of-the-Army.pdf +--- 57889835 +>>57883221 (OP) +--- 57890090 +>>57883221 (OP) +Picrel is great if you want in-depth info on insurgencies and terrorism, I had to read them in courses for my strategic intelligence degree. diff --git a/k/57883524.txt b/k/57883524.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6093ebeb6ed1d4a3064ea4ef19d909027337f289 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57883524.txt @@ -0,0 +1,224 @@ +----- +--- 57883524 +Pellet Gun General + +First Edition / No BBs Edition +--- 57883581 +Priced at $229; this is the current EDC meta at 810 fps. + +Hatsan Jet 1 +--- 57884348 +>>57883524 (OP) +Thinking of buying Gamo whisper Mach 1 in .177 because my local sporting store has it on shelf, can't find any chronograph data on it only .22. +--- 57884382 +>>57884348 +I bought the non suppressed one to eliminate black birds in my yard but I'm afraid to shoot it because the neighbors will think it's a "real" gun instead of an air rifle. +--- 57884429 +>>57884382 +Even unsuppressed airguns are not loud and do not sound like firearms. + +Blackbird pie? +--- 57884456 +>>57884429 +I live in a neighborhood full of trannyflag "allies". Sure, anyone with a brain would know that, but not these people. +--- 57884746 +Never looked at air guns before, I have birds that have taken a liking to shitting all over my parked weekend car. What's the meta on pellet sizes? +--- 57884988 +>>57883581 +>meta +>citing velocity numbers for .177 lead free pellets +Fuck off retard. +--- 57885055 +>>57884382 +Will people at the shooting range look at you weird if you bring it there to target practice? My local range allows pellet guns but I've never been there. +--- 57885058 +>>57883537 +Oi mate, throw another shrimp on the barbie! +--- 57885797 +>>57883524 (OP) +God damn I fuckin love me some pellet guns anons. Got too many center fires, but there's just something about pellets that still does it for me. Takes me back many years. +--- 57885874 +>>57884348 +I gave up on Gamos. QC is dog shit. Had some great rifles. But at least 3 that were abysmal pieces of shit. Ran dozens of different weights, types and manufacturers of pellets and just decided not to give them any more of my money. Of all their more expensive models (which were all over the place and couldn't hold a zero to save themselves) it was their cheaper one the big cat model I believe that was a clean shooter. +>>57884382 +Just shoot heavy pellets and it won't have a super sonic crack. Those alloy pellets they use to fake higher FPS numbers will make a loud snap. Use some H&N Baracuda pellets. They are heavy grain and pack a whollop. They will remain subsonic and your neighbors won't associate the sound with anything gun related. You'll be fine. It will fold a bird too. +--- 57886046 +>>57884746 +.177 will take birds, but .22 doesn't cost much more. +--- 57886413 +>>57885874 +Are cheap PCP from umarex or air venturi worth it? +--- 57886448 +>>57886046 +>>57884746 +.117 will take birds and small animals like rabbits from personal experience. +.22 works better generally tho and anon is correct there’s little cost difference. +--- 57886461 +>>57886448 +*.177 +>t. Phoneposting fuck with fat fingers. +--- 57886492 +>>57885874 +Probably should go with Diana then. Don't really care about break barrel guns with magazines. +--- 57886653 +>>57883524 (OP) +I used to hunt sparrows with a Cometa back when I was like 15, this thread brings back memories :) +--- 57886846 +Backyard Benjamin Franklin 130 .177 +coupla pumps and she's gtg +--- 57887059 +>>57884382 +>eliminate black birds +Why, do you have crops? + +>Even unsuppressed airguns are not loud and do not sound like firearms. +They can be loud, most around here haven't heard gunfire before so they won't know the difference. + +>>57884746 +Some birds are beneficial to pest control anon, but .177, .22, .25, and .30 are all good for small game. + +>>57886413 +Depends on your use, plinking, hunting, etc... + +>>57886846 +Is she a repeater or what? +--- 57887113 +Can anyone recommend a pellet handgun, I want it for target practice but I'd prefer it to pack a punch ~750 fps will do. I EDC a tac knife so I'm not relying on a pellet to save me. but how about those well-placed shots to the temple? +--- 57887171 +What's a good pellet gun to kill raccoons? They've been killing a bunch of pets in the area. +--- 57887215 +>>57887171 +Hatsan Blitz in 0.30 is the patrician's choice. +--- 57887270 +>>57887113 +--- 57887297 +>>57887270 +--- 57887313 +>>57887270 +>He doesn't live in a communist state that will make pellet guns illegal soon +If only you knew how bad things really are. +--- 57887315 +>>57887113 +>I'd prefer it to pack a punch ~750 fps will do +your going to have to shill out hundreds for pcp +co2 will never come close to that +--- 57887375 +>>57887215 +Are these actually useful? Automatic air rifles seem like a pointless gimmick. +--- 57887421 +>>57887315 +Yes, have you tried spoonfeeding a young militia member (me) with the sauce? +--- 57887431 +>>57887375 +>Automatic, Air Rifle +Those are $2k at best. + +Real automatics don't exist in pgg, we have repeaters aka semi-automatic at best and single shots at worst. +--- 57887613 +>>57887421 +>actually calls himself a "young militia member" +There's no way this poster isn't underage. +--- 57887656 +>>57887613 +False. I have ID. Just not the kind with an F before it. +--- 57887715 +>>57883581 +It looks like you have to put your face in front of the muzzle to read the pressure gauge, am I missing something? It's fucking hideous too. +--- 57887985 +>>57887715 +Self darwin. +--- 57888167 +>>57884429 +As long as you stay subsonic +--- 57888192 +>>57887215 +I'm not wild about my blitz's accuracy. I'd much rather have a single well-placed shot +--- 57888228 +>>57883581 +1. FPS is less meaningful than FPE +2. What about an Evanix viper? +3. Do we even need to edc?? +--- 57888245 +>>57886413 +I don't have anything Umarex, but I have an air venturi avenger bullpup in .177 (the one true caliber) and it's a fun, accurate plinker +--- 57888277 +>>57884348 +Save up, buy a weihrach hw97k from Krale, gift it to your grandkids years from now +--- 57888321 +>>57887431 +>>57887375 + +I really only use my SMG-22 or blitz on full auto when I have company. They're pretty gimmicky, but also very fun +--- 57888377 +Death to seagulls +--- 57888392 +>>57888377 +Are those cheap crosmans any good? +--- 57888416 +>>57888377 +If you shoot a seagull with anything less than a full power pcp you should unironically commit +--- 57888443 +>>57888392 +I dunno I've never owned one but there's a big modding community so they must be ok +--- 57888558 +>>57887313 +New Jersey already classifies them as firearms and regulates them as such. + +In New Jersey, a BB gun, pellet gun or airgun is defined as a “firearm” that falls under N.J.S.A. 2C:39-5. The result is that it is illegal to possess a handgun, rifle or shotgun of this nature except in accordance with the licensing, use and transport laws for firearms. +--- 57890080 +>>57883524 (OP) +>first edition +Nah there's been other air gun generals they just don't get past like 5 threads if that. Plenty of 1s and maybe 2s or 3s. + +>>57885055 +It's fun when it's dead but having to wear ear pro to shoot pellet rifles when others are shooting anything else sucks. So I rarely shoot pellet guns at the range since I might as well just shoot real guns; can't do that at home. Unless you wanted to shoot them at 50yds+. +--- 57890117 +>>57888443 +For a second I thought this was an artillery Luger +--- 57890130 +>>57884746 +.22 cal is probably best (I've had starlings fly away with .177 before probably dropping dead 25-50 yards out) but yeah not a good idea to shoot birds if you don't know what they are. Generally acceptable shootable birds: +>European Starling (invasive, year round) +>European House Sparrow (cute, but invasive, year round) +>Crows (*with hunting license, and they're smart and will unironically tell the other crows you're a dick from what I hear, be aware, in season) +>Dove (*with hunting license, in season only) +I might be missing one or two here. Robins, cowbirds, woodpeckers, bird of prey, etc. are all protected nationally and if someone finds out you're shooting those you're in big fucking trouble. Also watch some Ted's Holdover until you figure out where a shot will kill. Bird necks are weird and so is their vital area you aim at. +--- 57890188 +>>57885874 +The Gamo Swarm absolutely reignited my trust in Gamo. My first Gamo, though not my first air rifle, was an old 1200 which was fine but I used some old junky scopes on it and it was quite beat. The Swarm is great, a huge improvement. Trigger isn't amazing but it comes with a scope that isn't too bad, albeit made of plastic, and it keeps its zero fine. Trigger is good enough for me to shoot decent groups for hunting and doesn't have any weird hold sensitivity that I've found. I know Gamo made some shit. A lot of manufacturers did when they were chasing velocity instead of accuracy. My only complaint is that once I miscounted and my last shot was a dryfire. My fault; there's a counter on the magazine and you have to manually cock the gun, no reason not to look. Super loud. Knocked my scope's zero way off. Other than that, no complaints. +--- 57890222 +>>57885797 +There's something about tax stamp-free no ear pro shooting that's just fun. I started shooting with pellet rifles and going from that to having to wear electronic muffs to hunt with a .22 killed some of the fun. I learned how to use my hearing to not only figure out what direction the noise of a squirrel eating was coming from and from how far, but even how high up! I'm still good at that but wearing muffs interferes with it. I often have to take them partially off and screw around with how my head is situated, doubt myself because my ears aren't fully uncovered, etc. Can't wait for my can but there's something to be said about how pellet rifles offer a true no worry shooting/hunting experience, at least noise-wise. And hell, they're so quiet, with some you could take a mid-hunt zero check and go right back to hunting just a couple hundred yards away. +--- 57890224 +>>57888277 +Looks kinda complicated with that lever but I've heard they are nice guns. Diana is probably same quality built and a little cheaper. +>>57890080 +I rent so can't shoot at home. There is a big state park near me but I don't want to take my chances wandering into someone's private land and shooting a pellet gun also rangers. It's California if you know what I mean. +--- 57890275 +>>57887059 +IIRC that's the model that eventually became the American Classic and then the American Classic 1300 series (1377 and 1322). 10 pump, bolt action, single shot. That model was straight pull though IIRC. + +>>57888392 +Yes. Trigger is somewhat heavy but quite short. A little weird. Wish it wasn't like that but it shoots groups good enough. I have a scope and stock on mine, though the scope requires some separate parts, the most accurate mount probably being the steel breech kit (official from Crosman) which you probably want anyways because IMO the irons suck for hunting and steel breech > shitty plastic breech. You can even buy them with a stock pre-installed for a bit of a discount IIRC. Check Pyramyd Air. +--- 57890328 +>>57887171 +Maybe a 15 foot pound or stronger break barrel .22, or better, a PCP. Swarm may be 30 foot pounds which surprised me. +>The .22, which Gamo states can shoot alloy pellets at 1,000 fps, consistently produced chronograph-measured speeds of 890 to 910 fps with lead pellets in the 15-17 grain range. That puts the muzzle energy at approximately 30-foot pounds, which is more than sufficient for pest control and small game hunting. +https://www.fieldandstream.com/outdoor-gear/gamo-swarm-fusion-review/ +Also check out Edgun Leishy on YouTube but he's going to be shilling Edgun hard so take that into account. +--- 57890490 +>>57890328 +Are break barrels reliable? I've seen some people complain that the barrels can bend or lose accuracy over time +--- 57890602 +>>57890490 +I have owned two break barrels I've shot and one that needs work due to some retard playing with the sear engagement and as far as I can tell, wrecking the seals. I've had no problems with my two despite absolutely abusing that 1200. Poor thing deserves a good scope one day. IIRC the Pyramyd Air blog did a bit on "break barrel barrel bending" and he didn't really experience almost any of that despite his many many years of dicking with break barrels. I wouldn't slam it shut or let go of the barrel when half cocked but the risk is very small for bending, probably doubly so now since Gamo encases their barrels in plastic or resin to make them even more rigid. Don't cock it in stupid ways and don't adjust the sear so it slips while you're cocking it (which may result in the gun violently closing itself) and you'll be fine. My Swarm (not gen 2) has been nothing but reliable. Boringly so. It just could use a slightly better scope. Also IIRC bent barrels can often still be zeroed surprisingly enough. + +Also also IIRC break barrels have been around for over 60 years (albeit with leather piston seals). If they were that bad we'd have something else replacing them on store shelves by now. +--- 57890623 +>>57890490 +Forgot to mention, the accuracy thing is probably something to do with being "off face" (like a break barrel shotgun) or the hinge itself wearing out. I've yet to do either. Even on that beat to hell one I can't shoot until I work on it, it still closes shut tight. And if you get to that point either you get a new gun or fix it exactly like they do on break barrel shotguns. Put some shims in the hinge or drill 'em out and fix the pin hinge holes causing you problems with an insert or something. It would be an impressive feat to wear it out IMO. +--- 57890663 +>>57883524 (OP) +The squirrels will learn to stay the fuck off my bird feeders, no matter how many of their bodies I have to toss into the water runoff area +--- 57890976 +Any recommendations for lead free pellets? I want to stop pests from tearing up the garden without filling it with lead. diff --git a/k/57883599.txt b/k/57883599.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2a3313081dfd25737553e81d4be861bde9a46121 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57883599.txt @@ -0,0 +1,143 @@ +----- +--- 57883599 +I'm a NEET who can't drive because of a disability, but I need a shotgun. How am I supposed to get a gun without the cuck rideshare driver pulling a stunt? American btw. +>inb4 "dont shoot yourself anon" +--- 57883613 +you're clearly not responsible enough to own one +--- 57883616 +>>57883599 (OP) +Put it in a bag or box in the store and put it in the trunk. GG. +Personally you shouldn't own a gun though, because you're obviously retarded. +--- 57883626 +Just use pills so democrats can't use you as a gun violence statistic +--- 57883647 +>>57883613 +>>57883616 +I can buy any gun, and use if for whatever I please, as long as it's not to hurt someone else, you faggots have no say. +--- 57883652 +Become my disabled femboy gf and you can use mine. +--- 57883660 +>>57883599 (OP) +Your priorities are not straight. +Getting a long gun before a car is dumb. If you want a piece for personal protection: +>Get a handgun of some kind +>Put it in a backpack or fannypack for the walk/bike ride home +Simple as. +--- 57883673 +>>57883660 +He can't drive because he has a disability. It might not be able to get a license. He should still be armed. +--- 57883700 +>>57883599 (OP) +Ask your mommy to buy you one +--- 57883704 +>>57883652 +>Pic +>>57883599 (OP) +Literally just bring a long box or even a black trash bag. They aren't gonna ask shit unless you look sketchy AF +--- 57883719 +>>57883599 (OP) +Guitar case, add some foam so it doesn't rattle, or buy a 18.5 in. PGO shotgun, stick it in a backpack and get a stock separately. +>t. Transported a gun on public transit when I was a licenseless loser +--- 57883776 +>>57883652 +>Become my disabled femboy gf and you can use mine. +Back to >>>lgbt, sodomite +--- 57885163 +>>57883599 (OP) +hold the driver at gunpoint with the shotgun +--- 57885177 +>>57883599 (OP) +Why can’t you drive? Can someone else drive you? What do you need a shotgun for? +--- 57885198 +>>57883599 (OP) +Why do you "need" a shotgun? +--- 57885206 +>>57883599 (OP) +>I'm a NEET who can't drive because of a disability, but I need a shotgun. +You can ride shotgun. +--- 57885210 +Have a friend drive you there +--- 57885240 +>>57885206 +Fucking finally. +--- 57885266 +>>57883599 (OP) +idk anon be a fucking normal person and just say im going to the outdoors store to pick up my firearm. its not hard. . .unless. you have the spaghetti problem. +--- 57885276 +>>57883599 (OP) +Go out and meet friends. One of my friends has a sight problem that prevents him from driving but we still go shooting and stuff like that all the time because I can drive him. +--- 57885293 +>>57883599 (OP) +I mean it's the same way people using ride shares go shopping in any way- you just fucking hold onto it, duh. If you're worried about being violently mugged for your empty gun don't use a ride share, use a licensed taxi that can be tracked and ID'd, also it's probably just not gonna happen that way, vast majority of people are pussies not violent criminals +--- 57885302 +>>57883599 (OP) +You could drive automatic. +--- 57887937 +Get a ride +--- 57888062 +>>57883599 (OP) +Which town/city? You can probably find an Anon nearby who's willing to give you a ride. +--- 57888079 +>>57883599 (OP) +Do you have a bicycle? How do you get around presently? +--- 57888099 +>>57883599 (OP) +>1pbtid +--- 57888126 +>>57883599 (OP) +put it in a duffel bag after you buy it. It's not rocket science +--- 57888135 +When a disabled NEET makes a thread to which the answer is +>have a friend spend like an hour to help you out +then maybe that person shouldn't own a gun. +--- 57888166 +>>57883719 +i've seen a guy carry a long gun wrapped in a blanket on the bus before. everyone could tell and no one gave a shit. +--- 57888423 +>>57888166 +based +--- 57890157 +>>57883599 (OP) +I was in your shoes and in some aspects still am. I purchased a TEC-9 and I used an uber driver to get it believe it or not. My uber was a cool lightskin dude and he and I talked guns as soon as I let him see it. If you cannot drive for whatever reason, an uber or lyft isnt a bad thing. Depending on your state or region, this may or may not be a factor. If you're in the South or Midwest, at worst they'll be uncomfortable but really cannot do anything because you're paying them. If you're in Cali or the North, you may have a freak out if you go to a shop or gunshop to buy it. If the shotgun doesn't have a case when you buy it, it might be wise to either get a suitcase, guitar case, or straight up a shotgun case and just carry your shotgun in that. +Another important thing is to not make a big deal out of it. If you can, have the driver pop the trunk, and unless they are gonna freak out over it, don't tell them what it is. It's not their business, and you're not gonna hurt them, so no need to sweat. You're buying something and they're just driving you. No biggie whatsoever. +>>57883613 +>>57883660 +>>57885198 +>>57888135 +Even if they're a cripple NEET, the 2nd amendment applies. You think the founding fathers wouldnt have been NEETs or NEET sympathizers in their 20s? Those men were so smart and/or autistic to make such powerful doctrines that no other "rational" country would ever give its citizens such powers. Shall not be infringed. +--- 57890168 +>>57883599 (OP) +A duffel bag +--- 57890169 +>>57883647 +>don't have a job +>fake 'disability', too retarded to pass a drivers test +>muh 2nd ammendment!!!1 + +Get a job you lazy nigger +--- 57890178 +Buy a hardcase or softcase +--- 57890193 +>>57883647 +I have no say, but you wanted our thoughts and you got them retard. +You are not responsible enough for a gun, simple as, if I was a gun store owner and you showed me this thread I would refuse to sell you a gun on the basis that you are too dumb to own one without NDing or shooting yourself to others by accident. +--- 57890197 +>>57883652 +Man I really should have sex with a woman again soon, I'm nearly at the point where I'd fuck that guy. +--- 57890218 +>>57890197 +You need to stay off the weebsites for a while my man +--- 57890252 +>>57890193 +this. also +>I need a shotgun +>for muh protection in a rideshare +Literally what is a handgun, christ OP is genuinely retarded +--- 57890265 +order a premium uber, the Black Car. They dont care what you bring as long as its a cash tip! +--- 57891355 +>>57890157 +I think the founding fathers would have hated NEETs. Also you’re a fucking retard for wasting money on a TEC-9 instead of saving for a car. +--- 57891448 +>>57883599 (OP) +Shoot yourself anon or get a job. Stop being a useless unproductive pos diff --git a/k/57883869.txt b/k/57883869.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d55ebaf7468ed5ca36f243f48a29fbe1316bd10f --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57883869.txt @@ -0,0 +1,183 @@ +----- +--- 57883869 +if WW3 occurs will the non dominant nations become the new world powers? +--- 57883882 +some nations such as Kazakhstan would be given the opportunity to be major power brokers if they played ball with access to their resources +--- 57883918 +>>57883869 (OP) +The meek shall inherit the earth. +--- 57883947 +>>57883918 +so your saying I should move to Mongolia and learn to ride a horse? +--- 57883952 +>>57883869 (OP) +The currently dominant nations would have to suffer an unimaginable level of destruction for that to happen +--- 57883969 +>>57883869 (OP) +Eagle hunters will inherit the Earth +--- 57884001 +every mongolian I've met has been chad tier. It's funny as fuck. Funny how the Medeterrian diet and what Mongolian steppe hordes ate produces ideal fitness in humans despite what faggot (((nutritionists))) claim +--- 57884015 +>>57883882 +Very nice! We share our number one prostitute with US and A! +--- 57884034 +>>57883952 +nukes will do that to you +--- 57884049 +>>57884034 +I don't think the world would survive such a big nuclear exchange. It's either conventional war or we are all gone, sooner or later +--- 57884115 +>>57883869 (OP) +Assuming that the involved nations lose all of their industrial capacity in the war, it's possible. However, it's likely that in that scenario we will would into a "dark age" type of thing. The "dominant nations" are the biggest producers and exporters of advanced technology, medicine and scientific advancements. The "non dominant nations" would likely not be able to develop fast enough to fill that gap in less than 4-5 decades, if they even are able to so given the loss of tech production +--- 57884116 +>>57884049 +People in the global south would. Now, life would be incredibly shit for them for the following few decades, but at least some nominal form of civilization would survive. As to whether or not they'd actually leverage this advantage is another question, but it certainly exists. +--- 57884126 +>>57884115 +so would they be the Byzantium of this dark age, or the barbarians? +--- 57884169 +>>57884034 +glowniggers are trying to downplay the effects of nuclear war not because they're actually some general ripper type character (although they pretend to be) but because they need to undercut the danger the public might feel as a minor impediment to their geopolitical goals. Russia saber rattles about pressing the red button and we challenge their bluff with a bluff of our own. anti war protesters did the inverse during the Cold War by playing up the horrors of a nuclear holocaust (with the added benefit of styming nuclear energy) + +I honestly suspect an intelligence agency (either ours or the non western sphere) might be the originators behind the schizo "nukes don't exist" bullshit. + +Frankly I think even the Congo should have nukes because either MAD prevents war or it doesn't and the human race gets what it fucking deserves +--- 57884224 +>>57884115 +I think that survivors from the "dominant nations" would flee to the safe places of the earth. So they would be bringing some of there skills and knowledge as well as books and other things with them to the new "dominant nations" to buy there way in to safety. +--- 57884281 +>>57883869 (OP) +cockroaches. + +No, i'm not referring to the Turks. +No, I mean literal cockroaches. +--- 57884286 +so what *is* the best country/region to be in if the nukes fall? How accurate is my shortlist? +>Northern Canada (like Yellowknife of anything above Edmonton +>Uruguay +>The most developed non Islamic parts of Africa +>Sri Lanka(?) +>Mongolia +>Western Australia + +Just wait. The Papuans will dominate the globe +--- 57884309 +>>57883869 (OP) +>>57883952 +>>57884034 +>>57884115 +The 20th century and both world wars seem like a waste of time when you think that at the start of it, the most powerful countries on earth were the US, UK, Germany, Japan and Russia and at the end of it they're the US, UK, Germany, Japan and China +--- 57884347 +>>57884309 +it's just banter m8 +--- 57884498 +>>57884309 +It had a huge impact tho. First, most of the nations you mentioned were rebuilt thanks to America, and the fact that America was not only intact, but had a significant growth post-war. We are talking about a scenario were no global power survives as a capable country. Second, WW2 changed the world towards a US-lead global order. The US and the USSR emerged as superpowers, so, even tho they were rebuilt and became/remained as developed nations, every other country you mentioned saw a significant decrease in influence and power +--- 57884573 +>>57884169 +>Russia saber rattles about pressing the red button and we challenge their bluff with a bluff of our own +I don't think the west has made any nuclear-level bluff. In fact, I would say that the fact the help sent to Ukraine is being so controlled and drip-fed, with no signs of ATACAMS or equivalent long-range missiles, no real plans of sending planes and such a slow response in regards to heavy armor, shows that there's a level of concern. I do believe that there's a real concern among high-ranking officials about Russia using chemical or nuclear weapons if Ukraine just steamrolls the Russian army all the way to Crimea, and it's also the reason behind banning the use of HIMARS against military targets in Russian territory, leaving Ukraine with only improvised kamikaze drones to try and do some damage to the airbases used to launch missile waves against their cities +--- 57884606 +>>57883869 (OP) +The Middle East. +--- 57884640 +>>57884606 +I'd rather not. I was already raped as a kid, I would prefer not complete the experience by being beheaded for some arbitrary reason +--- 57884665 +>>57883869 (OP) +Current dominant nations are dominant largely because of geography. WW3 wont move tectonic plates, anon +--- 57885186 +>>57884015 +is ma wife +--- 57885213 +>>57884665 +The only correct take. +--- 57885492 +>>57883869 (OP) +Oh God, you sure are optimistic about WW3. This shows a distinct lack of understanding of the potential wunderwaffe and weapons of mass destruction. + +Certain chemical weapons can be used as a stand in for nuclear weapons and depending on the chemical and delivery method could be worse than nukes in terms of long term effects. What you have to understand is that superpowers didn't just stop developing WMDs after the cold war. Even a comparatively insignificant non-superpower could produce world ending biological weapons. + +Nukes and chemical weapons could be used to destroy governments, militaries, population centers, capital cities, vital infrastructure like large dams or nuclear power plants. + +No matter which way you look at it, if every WMD flies the only people who survive will be people who live in the middle of nowhere and elites who have easily accessible bougie bunkers. Literally everyone else dies, maybe 6-8% of the total human population survives in some way? But it would be civilization ending. + +We would be thrown back a thousand years. Pre-industrial. Future wars will be fought between reestablished civilian settlements and the elites who crawl out of their bunkers decades later. There will be barbarian clans, pre-industrial colonies and elites with what would be considered wunderwaffe to the regular survivors. + +It would be apocalyptic. +--- 57885501 +>>57883869 (OP) +Mongolia, North Korea, Guatemala, Paraguay and Monaco. +--- 57885612 +>>57884001 +There are problems (or at least used to be) with massive numbers of orphan children living in the sewers of Ulaanbaatar. +Google it, it was so bad at one point there was a documentary made. +It's not all roses and sunshine, eagles on the steppes. +--- 57885666 +>>57883869 (OP) +Brazil always had opportunity to be a major world player but squandered it with all its corruption, falling into constant dictatorships and coups, and general brownoidisms. +If it could make the transition to an actual service economy backed up by its wealth of natural resources it could be very powerful. +--- 57885760 +>>57885492 +cont. + +There's also the potential of neutron bomb doomsday weapons. The only validity to nuclear war alarmism is the theoretical possibility of Tsar Bomba yield neutron bombs which regardless of where they are detonated could flood the atmosphere with long lasting lethal radioactive particles. + +The pressure wave produced by the Tsar Bomba circled the globe three times, depending on the design, a thousand of those detonated in Siberia could cause life ending amounts of radiation. + +This is where the classic nuclear doomsday scenario comes in, or reactors designed and tactically placed to purposefully melt down in the worst way possible and melt into the oceans and fresh water table underground. + +Make no mistake, if you learn about neutron bombs then you'll understand it's certainly possible to build nuclear doomsday weapons but would be a massive undertaking and very difficult to do so undetected. + +I doubt that these kinds of weapons were built, but they were considered after the production of the Tsar Bomba. +--- 57887137 +>>57884286 +The underground, away from anything even resembling civilization. +--- 57887839 +>>57884116 +The ones reliant on food aid would fucking starve to death. +--- 57887964 +>>57884286 +>Northern Canada (like Yellowknife of anything above Edmonton +Without a steady stream of supplies, towns like Yellowknife and Whitehorse are unsustainable at their current populations. You would freeze to death. More plausible are coastal norther cities like Juneau, Alaska or Prince Rupert, British Columbia. +Whitehorse is about a nine hour drive to Juneau, so I guess it's not too bad. Yellowknife is completely fucked. +>Uruguay +The Southern Cone is alright, but I'd personally try for Chile or Argentina. Tierra Del Fuego, but as far south as practicable. +>The most developed non Islamic parts of Africa +Holy fucking shit, no. They'll kill the shit out of your ass. +>Sri Lanka(?) +Fuck no, they have enough problems as it is. If nukes start going off it gets that much worse. In a WW3 scenario, where there is general exchange, you might even see nuclearl conflict between Pakistan and India. +>Mongolia +And get overrun by Han refugees? A society like Mongolia is inclined towards closing up in the event of a major sustained crisis and they'd likely kill you or, if you're lucky, just send you to which ever border is closest. +>Western Australia +I, for one, welcome our new Emu overlords. +--- 57888512 +>>57885612 +I used to live there. Never heard of this. Sounds like BS to me. +--- 57888844 +Australia shall inherit the earth. Then get nuked by brazillians in WW4. +--- 57889537 +>>57884169 + +Yeah and thanks to those faggot anti-war protesters and that stupid dyke bitch Rachel Carson the polar ice caps are melting because we had to use fossil fuels for another century. +--- 57889571 +>>57883869 (OP) +If the fallout from the nukes doesn't kill them. +--- 57889603 +>>57884049 +>I don't think the world would survive such a big nuclear exchange. +The southern hemisphere will get off light. +NZ and Aus will come out ok if they don't catch too many nukes. Agentina and Chile should do ok (if the mutt hordes don't overwhelm them). +Maybe Indonesia will come out alreight too, but they're pretty over populated and far enough north they may get blanketed by fallout. +--- 57889615 +>>57884169 +>I honestly suspect an intelligence agency (either ours or the non western sphere) might be the originators behind the schizo "nukes don't exist" bullshit. +You're right, but that's just them sending in a retard to shit themselves so they can call us pants shitting retards. +--- 57890563 +The future, just as the past, belongs to Mongolia +--- 57890585 +Considering there's no real reason to attack Brazil and its wealth in comparison to other countries there's no reason to attack, I'm pretty sure Brazil would become basically the new leader of earth. +God help us all. +--- 57890790 +>>57883869 (OP) +Bruh, considering the birthrate in the "developed" world, we don't need a world war to fade into irrelevance. diff --git a/k/57883971.txt b/k/57883971.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e128e6e7001d31b7346d355dc1fc91b06e9fca1a --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57883971.txt @@ -0,0 +1,268 @@ +----- +--- 57883971 +>Russian artillery shells +>shipped ready to use +>NATO artillery shells +>need to be assembled at the front + +what the fuck? +--- 57884002 +>>57883971 (OP) +Vatnik still dont understand how logistics works. +--- 57884028 +postin in ebin b8 bread +--- 57884037 +>>57883971 (OP) +>The L118 light gun is a 105 mm towed howitzer. It was originally designed and produced in England for the British Army in the 1970s. +>in the 1970s +--- 57884046 +>>57883971 (OP) +>>57884002 +Explain for us non-artillery-literate people. What's the difference and why? +--- 57884054 +>>57883971 (OP) +So a stockpile doesn't all explode from one rocket +--- 57884257 +>>57883971 (OP) +>>57884046 +>Sealing off and seperating the propelling and bursting charges minimizes the chances of an accidental discharge. +>Cilinders create flat surfaces for stacking allowing for greater volumes can be transported at once. +It's not that hard Vania. +--- 57884308 +>>57884257 +>To be transported at once* very tired. +--- 57884310 +>>57883971 (OP) +ok, from that short webm. +>Ukie soldier preparing each shell with care. +>Manually arm reach shell with a fuse and primer. +>Manually inspect that the shell is not rusted or some vatnik shit inside the primer, during the soviet time +>loading and preparing x amount of shell, shoot them and scoop. +>doesn't prepare throw everything around like a vatnigger. + +They remind me of a Knight/Samurai who make sure and prepare for the battle. +Make sure that blade and armor still work and not break down. +so what's wrong with that? +--- 57884335 +>>57883971 (OP) +Are these regular dumb shells? +--- 57884353 +>>57884335 +Looks like it to me +--- 57884359 +>>57884257 +Hm. Didn't know that. Thanks. +--- 57884441 +>>57883971 (OP) +Made with western logistics in mind is my guess. You know, monkeys in the back receive all the toys and put em together a nice distance away from the action. +--- 57884490 +>>57883971 (OP) +>Russia ships their shells with fuses attached + +You’re a cosmonaut, you’re a cosmonaut, everyone’s a cosmonaut. +--- 57884526 +>top 5 nato secret tricks to hit what you aim for +>commissars hate him! +--- 57884547 +>>57884257 +>calling other people dumb +>doesn’t know how to spell cylinders +--- 57884566 +i assume there is an element ofchoice as well. there are x# propellants and x# warheads of differing properties. maybe you want to shoot only one type of warhead, you don't have to deal with the fact that the rounds are preassembled which would force you to use a suboptimal warhead. +--- 57884590 +>>57884046 +Shipping fuzes separately from shells so the former going off in an accident doesn't result in the latter blowing up is a safety regulation that's almost as old as artillery in the West. +--- 57884591 +>>57884310 +>scoop + +It's SCOOT you mong. +--- 57884597 +>>57884335 +Turing test them to be sure.>>57884590 + +>>57884590 +^This too. +--- 57884617 +>>57884591 +There should be a comma after that "T". +--- 57884628 +>>57884547 +Like I said I'm very tired and that's the spelling in my native language. Also I didn't call anyone dumb, I just responded to the guys question. +--- 57884635 +>>57883971 (OP) +I would think it has something to do with safety during the transport process. When I was in the Air Force, general purpose bombs came as a body, and then you'd insert the fuse and arm it, then assemble the weapon the rest of the way. +Without the booster charge of the fuse, the bomb wouldn't explode on its own, and it didn't have fins attached that could get bent and fucked up during shipping. + +I notice most russian munitions come as all up rounds from the factory, meaning they can be detonated, or in the case of aircraft bombs, the fins can be fucked up, theres no way to inspect the fuse, etc. + +Basically Russians are fucking retarded. +--- 57884901 +>>57884635 +GP bombs are still shipped that way since it's so convenient and kits can be installed if JDAM etc are wanted. +--- 57884977 +>>57884037 +105mm howitzer is a 105mm howitzer. USA uses the M119 (which is the American version of it). The thing can be towed, airlifted or parachute dropped into position. I don't see what the issue is. The thing has had upgrades throughout its life. +--- 57885041 +>>57884963 +>logistics, optics, structure and many other useless things. And Russian army just fights without paying attention to these unnecessary things. + +Comedy gold. +--- 57885065 +>>57883971 (OP) +>Russian artillery shells +>shipped ready to use +pic related +--- 57885079 +>>57884037 +You are going to flip shit when you discover when the M2 Browning was designed and produced. +--- 57885097 +>>57884963 +>brown person +>WHAT ABOUT AMERICA +Every single time. +--- 57885100 +>>57884977 +>>57885079 +Point was that this whole thing is a 50 year old design so it shouldn't be all too surprising that it uses two piece ammunition. +--- 57885109 +>>57884963 +SIR! + +Congratulations on your post! There will be funds deposited in your Paypal account posthaste! + +You may continue posting for additional recompensation. + +Have a good day sir! +--- 57885162 +>>57884046 +Transporting the bits that burn easily a good way from the bits that go boom easily, so if the SMOOKER strikes you don't have a kaboom. This has been a safety consideration and regulation basically for as long as artillery has been a thing, right the way back to when little kids were using copper boxes to lug black powder around ships of the line. Its common fucking sense. + +Most NATO artillery shells are what we call insensitive munitions. That is, you can drop them, shoot them, even hit them with a shape charge, and so long as there's no fuse in there they won't explode. In place of the fuze there is often a screw-in ring to make transporting them easier. + +The fact that Russians don't have this as standard practice is a display of how fucking backwards they are. +--- 57885180 +>>57884963 +>but has 10s of hours of practice +That's so many hours +--- 57885203 +>>57884046 +what everyone else said, and this too: +>you may wish to swap out a shell's fuze, to achieve effects such as airburst or GPS guidance + +>pic is from a Russian battery early last year +--- 57885269 +>>57885100 +Anon, most if not all major artillery uses two-piece ammunition. Unitary rounds are a hazard, and just generally more difficult to transport and handle. +--- 57885437 +>>57885203 +Maybe if we put up a bunch of DUMPING STRICTLY PROHIBITED - 50000 ROUBLE FINE signs over Ukraine they'll stop doing this +--- 57885496 +>>57884635 +so basically they are armed at the factory? +--- 57885502 +>>57884628 +Spelling mistakes are no measure of intelligence anymore with the advent of the spellcheck to every prompt so his point matters even less. +--- 57885595 +>>57884002 +Nah. This is a case of vatniks not understanding how artillery shells and variable propellant loads work. + +>>57884046 +Artillery shells are fired on an indirect trajectory. To properly control that trajectory, you can vary the propellant load to increase or decrease your muzzle velocity. Because of this, artillery shells are shipped seperately from their propellant case, so the artillery crew can then load the case as required before putting in the shell and loading it into their gun. + +BTW, russian guns - actual artillery that is, rather than ghetto-artillery using antiquated anti-tank guns - works the exact same way. + +Also, see other posters for why seperating shell, fuze and propellant during transport is just a good safety principle. +--- 57885617 +>>57883971 (OP) +>Shipped ready to use +--- 57885622 +>>57885065 +Those are tank shells, though. BK-14M HEAT-FS. +--- 57885660 +>>57885617 +<- average ordnance technician seeing this +--- 57885667 +>>57885617 +>Ivan's enchiladas was a big hit at the christmas party +--- 57885728 +>>57885617 +spray some wd40 and it's good +--- 57886219 +>>57885617 +forbidden lasagna +--- 57887969 +>>57883971 (OP) +Russians are too stupid to put it together themselves at this point. They import ready to shoot from iran and north korea and still hit out houses +--- 57890655 +>>57885617 +>Russian-style cannelloni, just like mamochka used to make it +Just add a dollop of cosmoline for seasoning and bone apple tit, dinner is served. +--- 57890794 +>>57883971 (OP) +Is this post for real or is this sarcastic? +--- 57890812 +>>57883971 (OP) +I don't know how big I thought artillery shells should be, but that's definitely a lot smaller than I'd imagined. Amazing how something the size of a lawn gnome can kill like a dozen dudes. +--- 57890827 +>>57890794 +yeah +--- 57890840 +Why is he using ear protection? +--- 57890944 +>>57884628 +>>57885502 +Add in the fact that cilinders is still easily readable/translatable for cylinders. +He had no argument but had to pretend like he did by being a commafucker +--- 57890959 +>>57883971 (OP) +Even Russians don’t ship artillery shells already fused right? That can’t be true +--- 57891347 +>>57883971 (OP) +You idiot, Russian arty ammo is in 3 pieces. +>fuse +>grenade +>casing with propellant +--- 57891367 +>>57885728 +God they wish they had wd40 +--- 57891369 +>>57884037 +>20-30 years more modern than current russian toolkit +--- 57891400 +>>57885617 +--- 57891426 +>>57884002 +Ukraine would be captured long time ago if nation of votka degenerate pidors would actually have two functional brain cells +I mean just look at the OP +--- 57891494 +>>57891400 +That... almost looks like mold +--- 57891502 +155mm shells have their fuses (nose piece) screwed on in the field so that the desired fuse action is used for the particular fire mission. The bottom piece is the charge and not a part of the shell. Don’t Russians also use separate charges for 152mm? This is done to adjust the amount of propellant for range. I think the obsolete 122mm Cold War-era crap are all a single piece meaning the crew has to select the right variant for the desired fuse.and must adjust range via tube elevation. +--- 57891516 +>>57891502 +>.and must adjust range via tube elevation. +Not much of an artilleryman but... how much different is it from measuring propellant? +--- 57891563 +>>57891516 +Not an artillery man either but I assume having to elevate the shot arc to reduce range results in slower time-to-target and less accuracy. The current method are pre-measured bags for different range bands. +--- 57891577 +>>57891516 +Tube elevation gives you an angle, which give the general trajectory the projectile will follow for a given amount of propellant. +Up to a certain elevation, given enough propellant, you are increasing the horizontal distance the projectile will cover. +If you go beyond, though, the projectile will just shoot very high and then come down not very far. +It's an equation and there are tables for this. +--- 57891585 +this might be a stupid question +can you use artillery shells of the same caliber in a tank barrel? obviously with propellant appropriate for a tank barrel +--- 57891615 +>>57891369 +good, now ship it in the thousands +--- 57891623 +>>57883971 (OP) +>what the fuck? +Soldier is doing his job. Looks to me like Ukraine is quite professional. Why are Russians shocked at this? Do they expect some recently raped shaven headed illiterate mobiks kicking rusty shells out of the back of s scooby doo van followed by a large explosion as is their experience? Wars are won by soldiers doing their fucking job, including boring and repetitive tasks. Ukraine is obviously winning. +--- 57891676 +>>57891516 +Adjusting charges allows you to keep a high trajectory to avoid buildings and other tall obstacles in your way, so positioning in and near cities is much easier. It also allows for Multiple rounds simultaneous impact (MRSI) feature in advanced systems, which can shorten a long barrage in to a deadly burst with no time to react. diff --git a/k/57884064.txt b/k/57884064.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e44f52c2d81d19993646fc92c8cc32e0472714d7 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57884064.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1140 @@ +----- +--- 57884064 +>be ukie flavor of slav +>Find way to pop turret on non-russian flavor of slav tank without even getting to combat +Slavs just do this for fun don't they +--- 57884100 +They zigged when they should have zagged? + +Still I wouldn't sweat it. Thousands of heavy machinery pieces on the move, the occasional catastrophic failure is bound to happen +--- 57884110 +>>57884064 (OP) +it's opened for maintenance you absolute retard. +--- 57884127 +Looks like a firing range + +>>57884110 +Are you sure? +--- 57884132 +>>57884110 +Source? Citation? Explanation? Documentation? +Get Deebunked +--- 57884134 +>>57884064 (OP) +how? +--- 57884144 +>>57884134 +tfw u unscrew ur tanks turret +--- 57884151 +>>57884132 +>>57884127 +it's me in the photo i was there, i'm an engineer. +--- 57884157 +>>57884064 (OP) +>>57884072 +>>57884134 +looking at the bore evacuator and the second picture near hte tracks, my best guess is the crew went a bit too fast and furious and flipped the tank a full 360, or they bumped into another tank +--- 57884168 +>>57884134 +another abraham ran into the turret + +you can see the damage on the barrell knot +--- 57884172 +>>57884157 +I think the hit the other tank with the barrel >>57884072 +--- 57884174 +dont worry, its just leopard-kangaroo conversion because not enough marders +--- 57884177 +>>57884134 +probably flipped it +also OP where sourse? i unironically want one because this seems like an interesting story and reverse image search comes up with nothing. reminds me of those times israelis flipped their merkavas +--- 57884187 +>>57884168 +>barrel knot +--- 57884189 +>>57884134 +>>57884157 +another leopard drove onto it +Not into, but onto it (look at the tracks left on the front slope, then the distance from those to the damage in the bore evacuator) +Turrets are held down by gravity alone, it's why turret tossing is a thing to begin with. +--- 57884192 +They zigged when they should have zagged? + +Still I wouldn't sweat it. Thousands of heavy machinery pieces on the move, the occasional catastrophic failure is bound to happen +--- 57884207 +>>57884189 +>onto it +yea that makes sense. goddamn the hell these guys doing +--- 57884217 +>>57884151 +And my dad works for Nintendo. +--- 57884234 +>>57884064 (OP) +why does something feel very off about this picture +--- 57884241 +If another tank, or otherwise tracked vehicle, mounted it (as it quite possibly appears), what in fuck are they even doing in the first palce for that to happpen, playing a game of fucking chicken? +--- 57884253 +>>57884064 (OP) +How to do this without killing crew? Asking for tovarishch. +--- 57884254 +>>57884234 +--- 57884260 +You telling me Ukraine lost a Leo2 in fucking training? +--- 57884272 +>>57884253 +Avoid putting enormous ring of gunpowder and TNT around the crew. +--- 57884277 +>>57884253 +You get lifted out with your turret wagie-cage while the driver has his own chastity-cage. +--- 57884280 +Bet you $100 the ukie driver put the front tank into reverse, forgetting that Western tanks go backwards about 5 times faster than old Soviet shit, and floored it. +Cue big oopsie. +--- 57884284 +>>57884260 +East slavs gonna east slav +--- 57884287 +>>57884260 +Yeah +--- 57884292 +>>57884207 +>>57884241 +They go as fast as a T-72 while weighing nearly 20 tons more so I wouldn't be surprised if it was a user error. +--- 57884295 +>>57884280 +Heh yeah that's an excellent point +--- 57884300 +>>57884292 +This too + +>>57884292 +--- 57884303 +>>57884064 (OP) +It's joever. +--- 57884316 +>Leopard 2A4: (1, damaged) +Is this what winning looks like Hohols? +--- 57884317 +Is that a 2a4? I thought they only have like 20 or another low number of them. +--- 57884319 +>>57884064 (OP) +OH NO NO NO +--- 57884333 +Apparently Ukrainians like to drink on the job +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebEH6ZA-cHo [Embed] +--- 57884337 +>>57884316 +The spring offensive is surely over now before it has even started, Russia will be in Odessa by June I'm certain. +--- 57884345 +Not for the first time +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va6CvS84uCg [Embed] +--- 57884369 +>>57884064 (OP) +Is that repairable? +--- 57884371 +>>57884333 +>ten minutes of polish drivel +Just give me a quick rundown. +--- 57884378 +>>57884369 +Probably but I assume they will just put the turret back in and use it as non-firing trainig vehicle +--- 57884381 +>>57884369 +Yep, but that'll take at least a couple of weeks in a depot. +--- 57884383 +Man, I'm demoralized in this thread. It's almost like both sides are the same and we should stop supporting Ukraine +--- 57884395 +>>57884064 (OP) +Nice photoshop, biatch. This didn't happen in Ukraine +--- 57884398 +>>57884383 +yeah this. Pretty much anyone doing the "slavs are all the same" bit usually supports one type of slav. +--- 57884399 +I for one I am happy that the local vatniks can have a field day on this irrelevant accident . Things are grim for them and they need all the respite they can get before it's over. One day , after the few survivors will have repaid their debt to the greater Ukraine, maybe they will be able to get a chucke thinking about those silly wonderful Ukrainians and their whimsical Abrahams. +--- 57884400 +>>57884319 +Explain. +--- 57884418 +Imgine being the crew who now has to take a break while it gets fixed. All that training recently, they must have been excited as fuck, on a massive high, then bam - 'sorry guys you'll have to sit this one out' + +I'd be fucking livid +--- 57884421 +>>57884399 +>>57884378 +>>57884381 +>>57884369 +>>57884317 +The two Ukrainians are photoshopped in, it didn't happen in Ukraine +--- 57884431 +>>57884189 +So Leopard tank secks... goddamit. I know it's arousing to drive leopard tank but c'on. +--- 57884464 +>>57884064 (OP) +Stop posting the vatnik shop. +--- 57884488 +>>57884421 +Well, of course it didn't happen in Ukraine. If it had, that tank would've already been converted to the Leo 2 obr. 2023 model, courtesy of our two overeager friends. +--- 57884500 +>>57884371 +>BOO HOO WE GIVE OUT LEOPARDS FUCK GLOBOHOMO BOO HOO +>I BOUGHT AMRY SWEATER AND RANKS BADGES FROM MILSURP STORE TRUST MEEEE PLEAAAASEEE +I couldn't bother to watch it whole. Just ranting how Ukrainians use lend-leased equipment, and "boo hoo nafo overlords forced us to give everything to ukraine". It's just insufferable to watch. His comment section is just as shorbus-tier retarded, if not more. +--- 57884502 +>>57884488 +you mean :) +>>57876266 → +--- 57884507 +still no source? +--- 57884529 +>>57884064 (OP) +I can't wait to see the turret fly off into the stratosphere +--- 57884532 +>>57884500 +Do these niggers not realise how much they sponge off the EU? +--- 57884544 +>>57884168 +>another abraham ran into the turret +>you can see the damage on the barrell knot + +>abraham +>barrell knot + +Illiterate, can't identify tank and lazy too. Back to your call center. +--- 57884556 +>>57884529 +they keep it empty, only turk roaches fill it up +--- 57884563 +>If you don't have accidents in training +>Are you really training hard enough? +Bretty based if you ask me +--- 57884570 +>>57884556 +>15 rounds only otherwise +yeah, doubt [x] +--- 57884657 +>>57884254 +why he kinda.. +--- 57884681 +>>57884333 +This guy is known for being anti-military and anti-Ukraine. Not saying this hasn't happened, but it's not a good source of information. + +t. pole +--- 57884692 +>>57884064 (OP) +how does that even happen +--- 57884725 +>>57884280 +this +--- 57884734 +>>57884692 +Scroll up and read the thread +--- 57884740 +>>57884395 +I don't think anyone ever said that. It's a training exercise in Poland. +--- 57884768 +>>57884734 +How did the driver not realize what was happening when he suddenly started driving over a huge bump in the middle of a flat field? +--- 57884800 +>>57884189 +the right headlight and the left side mirror is missing, too. soil indicates that something was on the tank there +--- 57884904 +>>57884800 +The left side mirror is plopped down in the sand. +>soil indicates that something was on the tank there +Yep, the tank in front of it. +--- 57884909 +I wonder whether the driver of the offending tank will now be forced to drive a mine clearance T-72 instead. +--- 57884941 +>>57884556 +Nah, Slavs are retarded, they're gonna fill it to the brim. +--- 57884957 +>First Leo casualty of the war is from attrition +Vatnik sisters we missed our chance +--- 57884960 +>>57884064 (OP) +>>57884072 +Don't get angry Andrzej. +--- 57884965 +>>57884941 +>Slavs +hohols are turkic +--- 57884974 +>>57884110 + +No it isn't retard. You don't know anything about armor or tracked vehicle repair, but keep on posting, it's comedy gold. +--- 57884999 +>>57884064 (OP) +That way you can better see the ammo rack destined to make the turret fly in combat conditions. +--- 57885011 +>>57884965 +So even more retarded? +--- 57885040 +>>57884960 +THE FUCK YOU MEAN DON'T GET ANGRY!? WHERE THE FUCK AM I GONNA GET PARTS FOR THAT NOW? I TOLD YOU A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES TO CARE FOR THE VEHICLE LIKE FOR YOUR FUCKING WIFE AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS! +--- 57885054 +>>57885011 +it's opened for maintenance you absolute retard. +--- 57885060 +>>57884064 (OP) +CLARKSOOOOOOOOOON! +--- 57885071 +>>57884333 +>Powałka +Apt name. +--- 57885078 +>>57885040 +We'll hammer it out, buy a spray and paint over it soon :) +--- 57885088 +>>57885054 +>no visible crane that lifted the turret +>even if it did that's the worst possible way to keep your turret during maintenance +>extremely shoddy job +>expecting competency from slavs + +Your cope matches Vatnik cope. +--- 57885107 +>>57884064 (OP) + +Lmao not even turkroaches are this useless, at least they destroyed their own leopards when syrians stole them in the night kek +--- 57885115 +apparently, it was a polack’s doing +https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1648031677778653199 +--- 57885120 +>>57885088 +It's B8 and you took it. No one is that stupid, not even Serbs. +--- 57885122 +>>57884072 +>lightly bump into another tank +>turret pops off +Jesus Christ, this is a fucking disaster, lmao. This should NOT happen. +--- 57885125 +>>57884110 +righhhhhht. Thats why the the barrel in >>57884072 appears to be damaged? +--- 57885127 +So what happened is they were driving over some elevated terrain and the driver of the tank standing on it put in reverse for some reason, which caused his tank to climb over a second tank right behind it and knock out his turret. +>>57885115 +The driver was Ukrainian. +--- 57885130 +>>57885011 + +The only retardmonkeys are those who keep posting these leopards cope memes without knowing the context kek +--- 57885158 +>>57885115 +yes you dumb nigger, Poles who didn't damage a Leo in 2 decades broke it, not the hohols in their first week of training +--- 57885170 +>>57885130 +I don't think you do either +--- 57885175 +>>57885115 +obligatory classic +https://youtu.be/fc3qeAuxeuo [Embed] +--- 57885181 +>>57885122 +>>lightly bump +Look at how it deformed the barrel. Retards went fast. +--- 57885184 +>>57884064 (OP) +>>57884072 + +this russian tnak btw +--- 57885195 +>>57884110 +Well, It is now lol +--- 57885230 +>>57885184 +Tunak tunak tun +--- 57885243 +>>57885181 +60+ tons of steel can cause a phenomenal amount of damage even at relatively low speeds. +--- 57885251 +>>57885236 +kek +--- 57885255 +ERA bricks would have prevented this +--- 57885352 +>>57884965 +No they aren't, they are majority slavic. +But ofc, you know this, Mongol. +--- 57885359 +>>57885130 +>>57885011 + +I'm pretty sure there is a mentally ill person on /k/ that literally can't resist to post that on any and every leo thread +--- 57885366 +>>57884421 +Sure but that won't matter to the vatnik ganglionic mind. +--- 57885384 +>>57885255 +well, actually, ERA bricks can prevent this even on T-series. You just have to put a few hundred tons of them onto the turret (a multi-leveled cope cage may help you with that.) +--- 57885403 +>>57885236 +--- 57885407 +>>57884369 +yh, new turret base maybe replace the few other bits it ripped out be like a month tops out of commision +--- 57885412 +>>57885122 +are you dumb +the turret ring is as thin as a Sherman's side +that thing would snap from having the barrel bumped +and in this one, the fucker went over the tank and ripped the shit +--- 57885433 +>>57884072 +--- 57885439 +>>57885236 +--- 57885441 +>>57884740 +Most likely. +Other tank in the 2nd photo looks like leo2 pl. +--- 57885444 +>>57884064 (OP) +The shape of things to come. +--- 57885453 +>>57884064 (OP) +--- 57885467 +>>57885441 +It was in Poland. My insider sources™ have already confirmed it. +--- 57885513 +>>57884100 +>thousands +lmao +--- 57885522 +>>57884064 (OP) +>slava ukr-ACK +--- 57885549 +>57885522 +You don't even get a (You) +--- 57885559 +I don't frequent /k/ often but I had to do it +--- 57885565 +>>57885522 +Hohol sisters.... +--- 57885571 +>>57884272 +Inconceivable. +--- 57885629 +I said this months ago but /k/Reddit wouldn't listen. Ukraine has no way to maintain any of these British/German/American hardware. They'll operate them until they need overhaul which will be <1 month. I said this when Ukraine was getting French Caesar Howitzers and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM broke down. Not a single one is in operation. Did they do anything different? No, they convinced Denmark to send theirs too. Nobody is going to want to send their hardware to Ukraine anymore unless they have compensation from USA. +--- 57885630 +I hope the photographer doesn’t get seriously fucked by the authorities for releasing these shots. +--- 57885647 +>>57884110 +>opened for maintenance +Ahh yes, the old self bending turret ring feature. +--- 57885654 +>>57885629 +That's the point, it's a good excuse for Zelinsky to launder more money. +--- 57885668 +>>57884064 (OP) +>Deutchstani tech being raped before it's even entered battle +Terrible omen +--- 57885672 +Apologize right now, /k/. +You worshipped hohols for this. +Apologize to Russia. +--- 57885683 +>>57885352 +>implying Turks aren't also mostly Slavs +--- 57885690 +>German tanks are overprized toys +--- 57885695 +why does this happen so much in training? +--- 57885700 +>>57884134 + +Too many turns counter clockwise. +--- 57885707 +>>57885629 +>I have have full details of all weaponry and its status within the Ukrainian armed forces +--- 57885716 +>>57885695 +because they are still learning, dork +--- 57885725 +>>57884064 (OP) +kurwa +--- 57885730 +>>57885716 +just like look out of the hatches and periscopes lmao +--- 57885736 +>>57885683 +Their faces are totally different, you fucking autistic retard. +--- 57885746 +>>57885683 +Turks are Anatolians +You know +Hittites +Lydians +Trojans +Those guys +--- 57885756 +>>57884189 +>Cannon and Barrel Torture (CBT) from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia +--- 57885770 +>>57885695 + +Twentysomething retards driving around in 50—ton tanks with bad visibility. Accidents in the military are pretty common. +--- 57885806 +>>57885746 +No they aren't retard. Why do you think they are called Turks? They come from Turic tribes in Central Asia, where Turkmenistan is. +--- 57885825 +>>57885236 +--- 57885840 +>>57885707 +No it's just basic knowledge of how unreliable all military hardware is and how much support is needed to keep everything functioning. Ukraine only knows how to maintain Soviet hardware. Everything else will be abandoned once it's broken down. +--- 57885861 +>>57885806 +The language comes from Central Asia. But genetically, Turkiye isn't Turk. That's why they look like Greeks and Armenians, they don't look oriental +--- 57885883 +>>57885861 +I think they're a little bit Turk, like 1/4 or some shit (generally), from all the rape babies in the past. +--- 57885888 +>>57885730 +Tanks have about the visibility as a burgeroid muscle car +--- 57885898 +>>57885840 +> Everything else will be abandoned once it's broken down. +the only troves of abandoned equipment being scooped up we've seen so far is soviet tech left behind by the russians +annon are you saying that the russians can't maintain their soviet hardware and thus has to abandon it? +--- 57885918 +>>57885861 +>>57885883 +Hmm, I'm sorry for calling you a retard. Now I'm thinking I'm the retard in the end. :( +--- 57885920 +>>57885840 +No, it's just you thinking you're much smarter than you actually are, mr autist with narcissistic tendencies. +--- 57885932 +>>57885806 +Linguistics aren't genetics, retard +Turks are genetically Anatolians with Greek, Slavic, Levantine, Caucasian, and Turkic admixture +>>57885883 +Way less than 1/4th +--- 57885971 +>>57884064 (OP) +turkroaches have turret tossed the Leo2 already +--- 57885995 +>>57885359 +We could call him Leotard. +--- 57886045 +>>57884189 +War Thunder moment. +This goes into my 'Why War Thunder is the most realistic tank game' list. +--- 57886061 +>>57884064 (OP) +--- 57886063 +>>57884064 (OP) +wtf is that wasteland, I have never in my life seen such a low quality soil outside of middle east deserts? +--- 57886076 +it'll buff out +--- 57886099 +>>57884064 (OP) +you can tell they didn't pay for those +--- 57886129 +>>57886063 +We have a lot of that shit in Poland. It gets worse when terrain gets deforested. Makes a normally nice bike paths unbearable because you have to muscle your way through all that sand when previously it was a decently solid forest road. +--- 57886156 +>>57886099 +Very few tanks are driven by someone who payed for them, hell, every tanker I've ever personally met demanded not only to be issued the tank for free but to be payed for the privilege of their time in the tank as well. +--- 57886213 +>>57886156 +>Very few tanks are driven by someone who payed for them +You're just fucking wrong. Almost all tank drivers pay the same taxes that bought those tanks in the first place. +Not the Kyiv govt ones tho, those where paid for by someone else. +--- 57886241 +>>57885236 +god damn +--- 57886265 +>>57884280 +Holy fuck that has to be exactly what happened +--- 57886305 +>>57884072 +>>57884064 (OP) + +the front fell off +--- 57886307 +>>57886063 +Well if it is Poland then it probably happened somewhere in Western Pomerania. The soil is shit over there. +--- 57886346 +>>57884064 (OP) +what a fucking deathtrap, hope poor sovls that end up in those get at least two layers of copebricks. +--- 57886362 +>>57885127 +>The driver was Ukrainian. +Probably a former T-72 driver who didn't expect the Leo2 to sprint backwards kek. +--- 57886384 +>>57885629 +>>57885654 +Lol, whatever faggots. +Caeser, himars all out of operation. Ukies completely out of shells. And yet somehow Russian ammo dumps continue to explode and Russian advances are measured in inches per day. +--- 57886399 +>>57884280 +>>57886362 +>driver glances at manual +>"oh, top speed 31 km/h? not that bad I suppose. maybe it's all the armor and tech making it slower" +>"let me just back up here- +--- 57886406 +>>57886307 + That's what it seems to be. +Ukies causing a training grounds accident while deployed in Poland for training. +--- 57886421 +>>57884064 (OP) +That's just how they change the windshield wiper fluid. +--- 57886425 +>>57886362 +From what I've heard the Ukrainian had like brain damage or something and accidentally put in reverse. If that's the case then it's possible the faster reverse speed played a part here. If he believed that everything was right then he probably put the pedal to the metal and rammed right into the tank behind him. +--- 57886431 +>>57886425 +you polaks are weird as fuck +--- 57886451 +>>57886431 +yeah +--- 57886467 +>>57886346 +Turkey did say the leo 2 was an unsafe tank but I had no idea it was this bad. +--- 57886485 +>>57884134 +Jewish tactics of command +--- 57886543 +>>57884960 +I love that Pole reference + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibhB6_VrPuo [Embed] +--- 57886556 +LISTEN TO MY CALLS PLEASE +YOU'RE BREAKING THE TANK +--- 57886568 +>>57886384 +https://www.google.com/amp/s/bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/12/31/damages-to-16-of-18-caesar-sphs-delivered-to-ukraine-le-figaro/ + +>16/18 are already broken by December +>Everyone just sends more + +Sorry about your low IQ +--- 57886669 +>>57886568 +>bulgarianmilitary.com +You cannot be serious. +--- 57886704 +>57885565 +>samefagging +Still not getting a (You) +--- 57886723 +>>57886568 +the low IQ move was giving your weapons to ukranian conscripts, the dumbass retard IQ move was giving them more +--- 57886729 +>>57886384 +>inches per day. +I prefer to think of it in caskets per inch. +--- 57886734 +>>57884110 +/k/ope +they struck ground with gun when going downhill becose none of hohols thought about lifting up a gun +--- 57886750 +>>57884151 +and on your familly picture next to you mother... its me.. your dad +dont cry... unlce joe will meet you today and rape your lil anus... +i always knew about it... he pays me +--- 57886766 +>>57884189 +"turrets are held down by gravity alone" +you... you are a fuckin idiot +--- 57886784 +>>57884072 +>track marks on the front plate +>bore evacuator looks like something hit it +Holy shit Boris what the fuck did you do +--- 57886787 +This is puccia disinfo. +Mods do your job. +--- 57886799 +>>57886485 +imagine how much the jewish tanker owns his more jewish masters for destroying this żydawa +--- 57886806 +>>57886787 +suck and blow hohol +--- 57886944 +>>57886669 +I bet you unironically use Ukraine as your source +--- 57886980 +>>57886568 +Sounds like they just need their barrels swapped due to heavy use. +--- 57886984 +>>57886944 +Not even going to defend your garbage source? Indicates to me you know it's garbage. +--- 57886995 +>>57886213 +>paying for half a screw or less is the same as paying for the entire tank +I'm sure you treat all tax funded property as well as your own, however the average 19 year old in military training is unlikely to reach your paragon levels of civic virtue. +--- 57887019 +>>57886766 +They are, anon +Pic rel is a Abrams in Iraq that crashed full speed into a wadi +I've been in a tank that dislocated it's turret because the gun smacked into a thick tree while full speed traversing while the tank was going around 20 mph +It's not WW2 anymore where we use clamps +--- 57887021 +>>57884064 (OP) +Maybe they are one people after all, goofy retards +--- 57887037 +>>57884064 (OP) +Damn, I knew vatniks would spam every single lost piece of western armour but I didn’t expect it to be during training lol +--- 57887040 +>>57886213 +>>57886099 +>Give Ukraine taxes in the form of tanks +>They deliver dead vatniks +Solid deal, would do again +--- 57887045 +>>57884319 +Getting tired of those "I SWEAR BRO IT'S A PHOTOSHOP" copium niggers. +--- 57887046 +>>57887019 +I like how the WD-40 is just sitting there like +>Yep, that's me right there, you are probably wondering how i ended up here... +--- 57887052 +>>57884400 +A nigger who doesn't know how jpeg compression works because he sees compression blocks. +--- 57887093 +>>57884395 +>nothing stands out +>"it's a photoshop" +I don't think you understand how ELA analysis works. +--- 57887103 +>>57884381 +It could be fixed in the field with the parts and a common crane to sling load the turret but a dedicated shop is comfortable. Vehicles are not as complex as they may appear. +--- 57887164 +>>57885840 +>No it's just basic knowledge of how unreliable all military hardware is + +What specific military hardware did YOU work on? There is no such basic knowledge because your statement is nonsense. + +t. spent decades fixing combat aircraft and related, the shit that's supposed to be difficult. + +NAME SOME GENUINELY DIFFICULT (not tedious, but actually mentally difficult) terrestrial or flying military hardware to work on (and specifically why) with specifics or eat shit. IRL going from old hardware that's mechanically maintenance intensive to newer stuff is easy not hard because I've done it more than once and not just on aircraft. + +Fuck you for your niggatry. +Fuck you for having opinions you non-technical filth are unworthy to entertain. +Fuck you for being a vatnik. +--- 57887220 +>>57887164 +That's right, everyone who isn't you is Russian. +/k/ is Russian clay. +Die malding, leftytroon. +--- 57887273 +>>57887220 +What a gay image to have on your pc. Why would you idolise any world leader like this? They don't give a shit about you. +--- 57887296 +>>57887273 +I understand why you feel that way. +--- 57887303 +>>57887164 +not that anon. + +literally everything is "easy" when smart people sit down and write you step by step instructions on how to do it. it doesn't matter whether you're building a rocket or a chicken coop if the instructions are good enough - the "hard part" of "figuring it out" is literally done for you, and the only skill remaining is reading the manual. + +mentally difficult tasks are tasks that require you to figure things out for yourself, and that's exactly zero military maintenance tasks in a well-run military because why the fuck would you ever have to figure out how to replace a busted diff in humvee 26,001 like it's the first time humanity has ever encountered a humvee? + +difficulty is something experienced by a population, not an individual. things that i can do seem easy to me even if they are difficult for you; it's a meaningless distinction because the task itself hasn't changed, only the capability of the person doing it. "this is difficult" is another way of saying "i am inadequate" (meant without pejorative connotations in this case). the only meaningful sense in which difficulty can exist as a measurement of a task is "how rare are the people who can do this?" if they're very rare the task is very difficult. if they're not rare the task is easy. but each individual person is doing the same task, so how can the task's difficulty change? it can't. difficulty is just a way to take a fact about yourself that you don't like ("i am inadequate") and externalise it into something that isn't you ("this is difficult"). + +the reality is that a task that is difficult can be made into a task that is not difficult by simply reducing it to its constituent parts and treating them separately. sort of like how an instruction manual is broken down into steps instead of just consisting of a single page that says "step 1, fix the problem. step 2, you're done" + +the point is that maintaining NATO tanks could be done by chimps. +--- 57887317 +>>57886980 +That's exactly what the article says. Reading through it, it doesn't look like some massive BTFO for Ukraine at all (artillery barrels need regular replacements and if France sent these things to Ukraine with no contingency planned for that, that's on the frogs), but the other guy chimped out and called the article itself vatnik cope instead of just making fun of the vatnig who posted it. +--- 57887327 +>>57887296 +What do you imagine Putin is going to do that's going to benefit you? +--- 57887342 +>>57887327 +Kill Russians +--- 57887343 +>>57887327 +Kill leftytroon redditors like you. +--- 57887359 +>>57887296 +Imagine losing to this +--- 57887362 +>>57887296 +how is russia losing to this? +--- 57887376 +>>57887343 +Why would Putin do that? Left-wing troons and SJWs are an invaluable asset to him and Xinnie the Poo for destabilization of Western countries that they can neither overcome militarily or economically, just like /pol/tards and Tucker Carlson boomers. +--- 57887386 +>>57887359 +>>57887362 +Russia is winning while he's touring the world, grifting money using ukranian corpses. +--- 57887389 +>>57887342 +Based +>>57887343 +You support Putin because you think he's going to kill people on a Moroccan Flatbread Stuffing Appreciation board who disagree with you? How does that work in your head? +Seriously though, what do you imagine Putin will do for you. Don't dodge the question. Don't just lame out and pretend you were "only tolling". What benefits do you stand to gain from Putin? +--- 57887410 +>>57887389 +I already answered it, and you're just seething at the answer. Go join the other redditroon volunteers in Ukraine and die when you cuckpost from your cellphone in the middle of a warzone. +--- 57887413 +>>57886734 +Unironically because the guns can actually depress, I wonder if that is a training issue they have to overcome +--- 57887445 +>>57887410 +So, the answer is nothing. Putin is going to do nothing for you and you know it. +--- 57887459 +>>57884127 +Happened in Poland, kacaps are running wild with these pics. +--- 57887498 +>>57885695 +H-how are babies made? +--- 57887515 +>>57886467 +The roaches meant that you can’t use them like how Russia used tanks in Grozny +--- 57887521 +>>57886723 +>if u threten puccia ure low IQ +Brilliant strategy, you're clearly demoralizing these idiots with your wit. +--- 57887532 +>>57886729 +Mostly Wagner's, lol. +--- 57887544 +>>57887220 +What manner of faggotry is needed to shop muscles into that pedo midget? Imagine the sheer lust for cock, lmao. +--- 57887556 +>>57887386 +Why did you cut off the account? Whatever the glavset pays you is way too much. +--- 57887574 +>>57887359 +>>57887362 +Russia isn’t losing to that +They’re losing to pic related +--- 57887625 +>>57884064 (OP) +How much would you wager that this shit is already being spammed on every russian social media as a kill by russian troops? Vatniggers believed the sunken Leo with the photoshopped flag, so they'll believe anything. +--- 57887642 +>>57884168 +>abraham +--- 57887737 +>Get western tanks +>Immediately rip their turrets off without even seeing the Russians +Bodes well. +--- 57887799 +>>57885700 +Kek, underrated post. +--- 57887895 +>>57887410 +Simping for a man who despises you and would sacrifice you and your entire family for one extra day in power because you've fallen for some internet memes and mistakenly believe he shares your objectives. +Who's the real cuck in this situation? Protip, it's you. +--- 57887933 +>people shocked to learn that vehicles and equipment are lost during training and have to be repaired or replaced +imagine when they find out people sometimes die during training +--- 57887960 +>>57884110 +totally + +makes sense to do it out there in an open field +--- 57888078 +>>57887515 +It's almost killing people already +--- 57888201 +>>57887556 +It's all on video, who gives a fuck who retweeted it? Zelinsky being a corrupt kike piece of shit is not goundbreaking news: +>>57885654 +--- 57888241 +>>57887220 +Opposing Russia is nationalist not Lefty. Russia created the entire Left you commienigger. Russia is not rightist or tradcon. Russia is enemy to civilization to which its Asiatics have never been party. + +Your USSR is gone. Seethe. +Your Warsaw Pact mostly joined NATO. +The Russian Federation is far weaker than either and will also implode. +--- 57888281 +>>57887220 +--- 57888282 +>>57884280 +One tank was stopped uphill, driver messed up and put it in reverse but there was another Leo behind him and it’s the one in the picture +--- 57888285 +>>57884280 +>train on it for months, having shit drilled into you daily +>all tankers likely have to pass certain criteria and standards before they let you in, partly because an abundance of volunteers, partly because expensive shit +>forget all that the moment you get back and reverse too hard +>not even in a stressful combat situation + +naw. + +something else must have happened. +--- 57888291 +>>57888201 +>MUH WEF MUH BANKMAN FRAUD MUH US TREASURY SECRETARY +just fuck off will you? +--- 57888313 +>>57886766 +And you are a perfect example of Dunning-Kruger effect +--- 57888323 +>>57888291 +YES, YOUR WEF YOUR BANKMAN FRAUD YOUR US TREASURY SECRETARY +lol +--- 57888337 +>>57888241 +Everyone who supports Zelinsky is a retarded marxist transvestite, or retarded marxist transvestite adjacent +--- 57888338 +>>57884400 +pic of destroyed HIMARS +--- 57888368 +>>57884064 (OP) +How the fuck is it still mud season, goddamn +--- 57888402 +>>57884395 +based retard +--- 57888418 +>>57884064 (OP) +Monkeys KEK + +should be expected TBQFH +--- 57888436 +>>57884369 +repairable by Germans +--- 57888451 +>>57884064 (OP) +>>57884072 +Not the same kind of turret pop as a T72 but it has potential +--- 57888474 +>>57885040 +>>57886543 +Tha amusing detail few people appreciate is that Andrzej was not angry about just any of gorillion common BMP-1s. + +No, his precious baby was BRM-1, a specialised recon variant, there were only about dozen of them in service at that time. +--- 57888482 +>>57888285 +>'Hey Vova, cousin, I'm back! Would you like to drive this new tank for a bit? It's easy!' +>'Of course we can have a drink before the maneuver.' +>'I used to drive a T-72 in 1995, of course I can try out this new tank. I'm an officer!' +Countless possibilities. +--- 57888484 +>>57885130 +>without knowing the context kek +What that it got busted by a TOW or Kornet or whatever the fuck the Iranian TOW knockoff is called in Syria? +--- 57888500 +>>57884383 +Its almost like you're a fag +--- 57888506 +>>57887046 +>don't look at me, I'm responsible for making things move that aren't +>you want some ducktape since making things not move that are is his job +--- 57888526 +>>57887625 +Why would you care what vatniks think? +And in this case they have every right to make fun of Ukraine. This is not supposed to happen with trained drivers. +--- 57888597 +>>57885883 +>I think they're a little bit Turk, like 1/4 or some shit (generally) +It's more like 1/15 to 1/10 but specific regions have 1/5 tops. +--- 57888609 +>>57887625 +I ser where at the point where you're making up imaginary scenarios so that at least you can pretend to have a win in your mind. +--- 57888616 +>>57888526 +Training accidents happen all the time even in the US. Train hard, fight easy. See Desert Storm for how that works out. +--- 57888677 +>>57888616 +You're, right. But under supervision, with instructors present and a modicum of expertise, an accident like that should never happen. Someone really fucked up here. This isn't an E1 accidentally leaving one in the chamber or someone getting a tank stuck in the mud. This is beyond normal training accidents and requires an advanced level of retardation. +--- 57888782 +>>57887303 +>maintaining NATO tanks could be done by chimps. +Yes, but its slavs we're talking about +--- 57888971 +>>57884064 (OP) +It's just hohol things anon. +--- 57889181 +What is this thread? +--- 57889195 +>>57888971 +That's a russian, cockroach, we don't have /pol/'s goldfish memory. +--- 57889282 +>>57884280 +yeah this is the answer +--- 57889295 +>>57884532 +ukies are literally killing russians for pennies on the dollar. stop being a vat nigger +--- 57889301 +>>57888677 +Troops run vehicles into each other all the time, this just looks dramatic esp after seeing K-kills. They run into ditches, roll vehicles over and much more. Shooting each other like below is rare but not crashes: + +https://www.armytimes.com/2020/07/30/the-armys-last-armor-on-armor-mishap-like-the-one-at-ft-bliss-was-more-than-30-years-ago/ + +Usual is a short safety stand down, torture of the innocent by Powerpoint then life goes on. +--- 57889308 +>>57889181 +Bunch of noobs not knowing how tank stuff happens plus a few clueful enjoying the kino naked turret basket. +--- 57889319 +>>57889301 +But this is the greatest russian victory in five hundred years! +--- 57889338 +>>57889295 +People should think twice before throwing pennies in fountains. They could just donate it and kill a Russian instead +--- 57889340 +>>57889308 +And subniggers trying to gloat over this shadow of the echo of a whisper of a triumph. +--- 57889475 +>>57889195 +Yes, we can't see the hohol camo. +--- 57889511 +that's a tank track +some absolute retard drove over it LOL +--- 57889702 +>>57884395 +Pretty tiresome seeing all you retarded niggers bringing up ELA while having absolutely zero idea on how it works. +ELA works by showing different compression levels within a picture, since added elements are less compressed than the original picture after digital manipulation. +A smooth image usually means it is genuine, or at least was not manipulated through a software. +If the guys aren't visible on ELA, that's because they perfectly blend with the rest of the picture, meaning they weren't photoshopped in. +https://resources.infosecinstitute.com/topic/error-level-analysis-detect-image-manipulation/ + +Nice Dunning-Krugger, I guess. +--- 57889714 +>>57884110 +It's sad how many faggots took you seriously +--- 57889742 +>>57884072 +>tread marks on the front plate +>some absolute fucking muppet drove up and over the tank +It's like my pappy always said, no matter how much you idiot proof something there will always be a better idiot. +--- 57889827 +>>57887413 +what? hohols being retarded? yeah i suppose +--- 57889843 +>>57888971 +this is literally a russian, you faggot, fuck off +--- 57889861 +Why are we getting faggy raiders did some faggot link this thread on some /pol/ thread. +--- 57889864 +>German """"""""""engineering"""""""""" +--- 57889906 +>>57889861 +>>>/pol/423891219 +Yeah. +--- 57890028 +I wonder what ukraina(slava) gon do when they're unable to blame every single one of their retardations(like pic) on russia because vehicles are clearly western as opposed to this tripped over polish t-72 which has been attributed to russia by reddit and twitter(and thus /k/ obviously) + +I mean oryx can't tell hummer and tiger apart but still +--- 57890092 +>>57889906 +That explains the pervasive smell of shit and dried piss in this thread. +--- 57890122 +>>57888337 +>Finds new study +May I see it? +--- 57890152 +>>57890122 +It was done by the University of Delhi, they asked every warposting Twitter account for bobs and vagene, and the ones who didn't respond were obviously bots. +--- 57890158 +>>57890092 +>>57889906 +Yeah you can always tell when some cuckold decided to raid the entire thread gets filled up with /pol/ memes. +They even spread to other threads with bargain basement teenage tier low IQ politics they're insufferable. +--- 57890171 +>>57890158 +They are so weak they can't stand people not sucking russia's tiny, krokodil rotten dick. Literal Untermensch. +--- 57890176 +>>57889827 +What, you being a homosexual trans? I suppose. +If you weren't an intellectually dishonest nigger, maybe you could say something worth while +--- 57890210 +>>57887220 +>k/ is Russian clay. +>Die malding, leftytroAACKKKK!!! +--- 57890233 +>>57890152 +Bloody basterds... +--- 57890268 +>>57890210 +God I honestly would shoot every authoritarian lefty if I could get away with it (this includes about 50% of pol, mostly the brown ones and the neets) +--- 57890293 +>>57890272 +what does this have to do with ran over leopard +slava ukraini bots are mental +--- 57890306 +>>57890272 +Have you got a source for this is love to trace it back to the original Ukrainian/Russian to see if there was any nuance lost. +--- 57890316 +>>57890272 +Anyone who stans for russia is pure scum. +--- 57890343 +>>57890316 +You type like a faggot. +--- 57890350 +>>57890293 +I'm sure you can find more information on /chug/, you'll be right at home there. +--- 57890353 +>57890343 +what a subhuman +--- 57890367 +>>57890272 +https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1647952621213306881 +https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1647969226211180547 +https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1647975693970554882 +https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1647987325899603979 +--- 57890379 +>>57890343 +Says the faggot. +--- 57890389 +>>57890367 +This is Syria, look at these brown shitskins. +--- 57890391 +>>57890293 +This is what you're supporting, don't try to mentally wrestle out of it. There's no "gotcha" moment here, only this shit. +--- 57890442 +>>57890391 +>This is what you're supporting +--- 57890555 +>>57890272 +>2023 +>"warcrime bad" reddit post +--- 57890581 +Had to. +--- 57890640 +>>57885629 +>They'll operate them until they need overhaul which will be <1 month +That's okay, ukie tank crews aren't expected to last longer than 1 month when sent to the meatgrinder anyway +--- 57890654 +>>57890640 +The correct line is 4 hours, Rajneesh. No rupee for you, better luck next time. +--- 57890730 +>schizoposters claiming Russia hit a "NATO bunker" in bakhmut +>"HOLY SHIT THE UKIES FLIPPED A TANK! THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!" +>Trannyb8 threads cropping up again +So who got HIMARS'd this time? +--- 57890738 +>>57890654 +/k/ope, how long do you really expect them to last at the front? This isn't america vs dune coons with RPG-7s, this is essentially peer combat +--- 57890810 +>>57890389 +>looks whiter than hohols +lol +--- 57890843 +>>57890343 +>>57890442 +>>57890810 +good goy +--- 57890922 +>>57889843 +With hohol camo? +--- 57890931 +>>57884395 +Is that a rare merchant or something? +--- 57890934 +>>57890122 +Not that guy, but... +--- 57890949 +>>57890293 +>slava ukraini bots are mental +They're fueled by hundreds of years' worth of butthurt. +--- 57890966 +>>57890391 +No, this is what we fucking WISH would happen. Hohol extermination. But Russia is being too nice to this disease of a nation. +--- 57890972 +>>57890581 +Non-Slavs won't get it. +--- 57891097 +>>57890966 +>>57890949 +die mentally ill vatnigger +--- 57891106 +>>57890966 +You wish for mobiks to miss their shots? +--- 57891303 +>>57884965 +>>57885352 +>>57885683 +Both are subhuman why do any of this matter? diff --git a/k/57884179.txt b/k/57884179.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..95596c80bd27022ac5f14fc224e3c0d71daf9283 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57884179.txt @@ -0,0 +1,251 @@ +----- +--- 57884179 +Now that trench warfare is officially a thing again, who makes the best trenches? +--- 57884214 +>>57884179 (OP) +trench warfare is not a thing, stop with this dimwit take +Tanks and armored vehicles were meant to break the stalemate of the trenches and that's what they did in the Kharkiv breakthrough. +it's a "thing" because of the relatively low capacity of either side to do large scale mechanized movements at the moment +you'll notice that the US has not fought a conflict entrenched for any significant period of time after Korea. There is a reason for that. +--- 57884259 +>>57884214 +Your example owns you. If the sides are about equal strength, you get trench warfare. +--- 57884397 +>>57884179 (OP) +Ukes make the best trenches, going by the fortifications they built since 2014. + +Sometimes they make shit ones that are more expedient, and don't work for the thaw, but mostly they are pretty gud. I liked the OSB gaming cots. +--- 57884406 +>>57884397 +I liked the one with the battle beaver in it. +--- 57884408 +>>57884259 +>both sides can't perform large scale offensives for their own reasons (Ukraine for short term reasons) +>this means trench warfare is the future +quiet faggot +--- 57884417 +>>57884214 +>It's not a thing +>except for where it's currently happening right now +>bbbbut that doesn't count because uhhhhh it just doesn't OK +--- 57884424 +>>57884214 +>trench warfare is not a thing +Go back to CoD mulatto-perm fag +--- 57884455 +>>57884214 +>There is a reason for that. +Because we haven't fought a conventional war since idiot +--- 57884479 +>>57884417 +>>57884424 +>>57884455 +quiet spreytards. You can masturbate to your modern warfare trench fantasies vghhhh so much sovlllll somewhere else. +>>57884455 +completely wrong retard. The US fought conventionally against the PAVN in Vietnam, in Panama, Kuwait, Iraq, and planned to fight conventionally against Russia during the Cold War without resorting to WW1 tactics +--- 57884491 +>>57884214 +>america doesn't do it so it's not a thing + +ok +--- 57884523 +>>57884491 +>vghhhhhh trench warfare is so heckin' based! I can't wait to clap some gucchi fag in the boog! +I hate fatherless contrarians so much. Tell me, are we going to retvrn to tradition by getting trenchfoot? Is maneuver warfare a creation of the jews and therefore not based? +--- 57884525 +>>57884214 +As long as the dirt is bullet proof, there will always be trenches +--- 57884543 +>>57884479 +correction +conventional PEER war. all the wars you listed were curb stomps except for vietnam which had many american trenches. nowadays we can also make above ground trenches which were prevalent in every war you listed as well +--- 57884561 +>>57884214 +As mismanaged as the Russian Army is, it's still one of the premiere fighting fores of Europe. So if the Russians need to sit in trenches to fight, you bet your ass the same is true for any other European fighting force. +--- 57884567 +>>57884543 +>um well it actually doesn't count because uhhhhhh Iraq didn't have a conventional military +yes they did and you're a retard. +Even WW2 lacked significant trench fighting in Africa and the Western front. You can cite Bastogne as an instance of heavy digging in but the reality of a surrounded unit is very different from a maneuver unit. +--- 57884589 +>>57884479 +The US also lost Vietnam though, and you know what kept them from annihilating the Viet Kong? +Trenches. Trenches and tunnels. +--- 57884603 +>>57884589 +>discussing conventional war +>begins talking about an insurgency +next you'll do something stupid and bring up the based and trad taliban as an example of tunnel fighting and shit +--- 57884641 +>>57884603 +It's not stupid if it lets you survive against a trillion-dollar army +--- 57884652 +>>57884641 +yep, he's one of "those". +--- 57884682 +>>57884455 +Iraqi trenches did such an awesome job +Pre dug graves for those stupid towel heads when they learn trenc warfare isn't a thing for developed nations +--- 57884724 +>>57884567 +trench warfare isn't only about digging deep trenches and staying inside them indefinitely. there were numerous instances of small-scale trench fighting and use of field fortifications to provide cover and protect troops from enemy fire, such as hedgerows in normandy and the many czech hedgehogs and dragon's teeth found throughout the western front. +--- 57884876 +>>57884214 +>you'll notice that the US has not fought a conflict entrenched for any significant period of time after Korea +What even are FOBs? +Did trenches exist around firebases in vietnam? Who knows? +Did anyone dig trenches during desert shield? We may never know. +--- 57884945 +Trench warfare never really went away. They were used in the Iran-Iraq War and used by the Iraqis when the US invaded. +--- 57884970 +>>57884179 (OP) +best in the world? no idea, but I haven't seen anything this cozy on the russian side +--- 57885018 +>>57884970 +holy fuck that looks cozy as fuck +they even have TVs wtf +--- 57885022 +I'd be interested in how trench warfare evolved since WW1. It works just as good as 100 years ago, against infantry and artillery. But new killers have appeared since. For example, what tricks do they use to mitigate the effect of those quiet tiny drone precision strikes? Surely they do something, those soldiers don't want to die. +--- 57885044 +>>57884970 +>neatly stacked firewood +>roaring stove +>lizard lamps +--- 57885114 +>trolls your snipers +--- 57885171 +>>57885018 +They've been preparing for this for 8 years. +--- 57885201 +>>57884652 +>by acting smug I'll distract them from my retardation +>hmm yes, I'm so smrt +--- 57885254 +>>57884179 (OP) +>is officially a thing again +I don't think trench warfare is going to become the norm for first rate powers. +--- 57885295 +>>57885254 +Even if not, how many of those "first rate powers" exist, and how often they fight each other? +--- 57885334 +>>57884970 +Its all very comfy, but isnt that stove going to give them away? +--- 57885343 +>>57884214 +Dude STFU. Earth is great at absorbing shock from artilery and explosion. The best way to beat it is with fire and incendiary but geneva convention is in the way. +--- 57885350 +>>57885114 +just needs a cigar for top lulz +--- 57885367 +>>57884970 +This costs 40 million in California. +--- 57885379 +>>57885343 +>The best way to beat it is with fire and incendiary but geneva convention is in the way. +Way to out yourself as a retard. +--- 57885390 +>>57884408 +>>this means trench warfare is the future +Nobody said it's DA FUTURE. But it's definitely happening in the present +--- 57885396 +>>57884970 +>rgb lights, gaming, watching anime + +top comfy +--- 57885408 +>>57885379 +Only retard is you. +--- 57885418 +>>57885396 +>stocked up with soda +friday night motherfucker + +>liverpool fc +well, nobody is perfect +--- 57885431 +>>57884589 +The Viet "Kong" were all but annihilated after Tet. The Cu Chi tunnels were in large part abandoned because they didn't have the manpower to maintain them. Go have a glass of cow piss Sanjay, you have no idea what you're talking about. +--- 57885475 +>>57884214 +>Infantry wave attacks supported by massed artillery were meant to break the stalemate of the trenches. it's a "thing" because of the relatively low capacity of either side to do large scale offensive movements at the moment +--- 57885481 +>>57885431 +Hogwash, vietcong just reformed with the NVA. North Vietnam had a large population growth. They could afford sending 100K every year forever, along with unlimited supplies from China and Russia, it was a lost war unless the US had the balls to invade and conquer the brood nest. +--- 57887053 +>>57885418 +>well, nobody is perfect +I'll shteal yer hubcaps for that +--- 57887101 +>>57884970 +>on the russian side +>Jackets with Ukrainian flags +--- 57887204 +>>57885481 +>The Viet "Kong" were all but annihilated after Tet. +>Hogwash, vietcong just reformed with the NVA. +Not disproving his point there. +--- 57888728 +>>57887101 +you should take a class in English literacy +--- 57890538 +>>57885022 +>How has trench warfare evolved? +It didn't, trench warfare as a concept was a dead end in 1918, and stayed dead as mechanized forces and maneuver warfare exists. Keep in mind that building trenches/fortifcations to increase survivability in a static defensive position is not trench warfare in itself. + +>how to counter drones +Just like any other weapon +Cam, concealment, cover, deception (dummy positions) - whatever you can do to minimize being seen to begin with +Mobility - keep your patrols/sentries roving around - if you're static for too long you get rekt +Active air sentries +SHORAD +I'm not familiar on radar systems Ukes are using or even if a quad copter would get picked up, but using these to screen your position can help queue other weapons onto it +Drone dogfighting +EW systems +--- 57890566 +>>57884970 +I'm glad they have duckboards, but what do they do about the rats? +--- 57890589 +>>57884589 +Agent Orange says vegetation mattered as well +--- 57890618 +>>57884408 +no one ever said it was the future, and it very much IS a thing at the moment in ukraine. +why are you being autistic about this? +--- 57890805 +>>57884179 (OP) +--- 57890833 +could you make prefabricated trenches and then just excavate and plonk them in? +--- 57890839 +>>57890805 +shoulda thrown a grenade +--- 57890856 +>>57884179 (OP) +>who makes the best trenches? +Everyone knows the best trenches are dug by the Frenches. In fact, it's only a trench if it was dug by someone from the Trénch region of France. Otherwise, it's just a sparkling battle ditch. +--- 57890866 +>>57884214 +Good fucking god tourist, have you not been consuming any of the past 4 months of kino vids? +--- 57890917 +>>57890856 +What can we say, the terroire makes the wine. +--- 57890923 +>>57885022 +The ISIS-American tactic called 'overhead cover' would cut down on quadcopter-inflicted casualties, but the concept is as incomprehensible to the Russian as the pallet. +--- 57890967 +>>57890923 +They’ll need to figure out why it’s a bad idea to dig their trenches in straight lines first before they’ll be able to understand trench theory that advanced. Should take them about 2 more weeks I’d say. +--- 57891128 +>>57884179 (OP) +Trench warfare never went away. People have always dug trenches when creating prepared defensive positions. +--- 57891202 +>>57890856 +Lel +--- 57891232 +>>57890805 +>>57890839 +--- 57891647 +>>57890923 +Isn't this countered by the fact that drone operators have become so good, they can just just drop their grenade next to part with the overhead cover. +I remember seeing one webm of them bank shooting the grenade in trench hole. +--- 57891686 +>>57884214 diff --git a/k/57884356.txt b/k/57884356.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0824a4f652ca89dffe5896a9b2ea5197ee3eb77d --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57884356.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1194 @@ +----- +--- 57884356 +New here? Want a firearm? +https://pastebin.com/Ndb2jSAu +https://howtogetagun.ca/ + +>Want to hunt? Hunting license info: +https://pastebin.com/nC8RpYb3 + +>Want to buy something? Recommended vendors list: +https://pastebin.com/1yxHj5RG + +>Want to help firearm rights? +https://firearmrights.ca +https://nfa.ca +https://cssa-cila.org + +>Shitty Thread? /cangen/ Anti-Spammer filter list: +https://pastebin.com/6Ewshhfv + +>Hobbyists corner: +https://print2a.com +https://ctrlpew.org +https://fosscad.org + +Rules of Cangen: +>Rule 1: No Furries +>Rule 2: No trannies +>Rule 3: No slav bumfight content +>Rule 4: No noguns PPC D&C +>Rule 5: Go shooting + + +Previous: >>57876770 → +--- 57884377 +First for monolithic uppers. +--- 57884380 +She really presented the SLR with fucking /r/canadaguns feet in the photo...this court case is lost +--- 57884414 +>>57884380 +Who let this retarded woman take part in the court case, we were doing so well last week bro's. +That being said i never really had any hope we would win, and like others have said they are already working on the next ban. +--- 57884433 +this woman is muddying the waters, she's basically just trying to attack the character of the antigun people, it's not really relevant or a good look +--- 57884459 +>>57884380 +>>57884414 +God dammit!!! Tbh I think I’m done with the CCFR. The NFA lawyer did a fantastic job last week with the ATRS shit and all the people the CCFR people have sent have been fucking shit. From the “got mine boomer” to this bitch fuck sakes think I’ll end my membership. +--- 57884565 +>>57884380 +You really posted this doomium in the last thread verbatim… your originality is lost +--- 57884659 +>>57884565 +win or lose the case, we will keep our guns. trust me anons +--- 57884660 +>>57884377 +how do you change the barrel with standard tools or get access to the gas port +--- 57884695 +>>57884660 +He doesn't shoot it so it doesn't matter +--- 57884726 +>>57884356 (OP) +probably a dumb question to ask on this board but are there any disadvantages to using a field gun for skeet other then the 1-2lb weight difference causing more recoil? +--- 57884751 +>>57884726 +that would be the only disadvantage +people favor heavier guns for target shooting because of lower recoil and not having to carry it around in the bush +--- 57884752 +>>57884660 +See picrel if you don’t have the $1000 armourers wrench(I do have a wrench for it) +>>57884695 +You still seething there little buddy? You want a binky? +--- 57884760 +>>57884752 +Picrel vanished on me and I don’t know why. +--- 57884769 +>>57884752 +so you paid a premium for an upper that requires additional funds for tools for no actual advantages compared to a regular ar +--- 57884791 +>grandpa doesn't like that it fires every time you pull the trigger +--- 57884794 +Where are you guys watching the court case +--- 57884801 +>>57884769 +Keep crying about your poverty status anon. I can afford the disposable income to buy the guns I want. I don’t need copeshit inferior options like you do. +>>57884791 +You can just buy one of the nu-ARs and that way it won’t go bang every time +--- 57884838 +>>57884794 +At my house +--- 57884840 +>>57884801 +imagine paying a premium for the diemaco logo +--- 57884878 +Today's session was such a waste of time. Why did they even let that self representing nobody make a horrible case for millions of firearm owners +--- 57884898 +>>57884840 +I don’t have to imagine. +--- 57884921 +>>57884751 +how much does 1-2lbs effect recoil? +My field guns weighs 7.0lbs but the most common skeet gun I see shilled is the beretta 686 silver pigeon and it's only 7.25lbs. Find it weird a berretta meant for skeet would weigh less then most field guns made by browning. +--- 57884926 +>>57884878 +>self representing nobody makes terrible case for millions of firearm owners +You answered your own question anon. +--- 57884932 +Maybe our gun laws, maybe it's a good thing theyre shit + +If SHTF nobody else will be armed +--- 57884950 +>>57884840 +For me it's fn. I need a p90 to go with my other fns. +--- 57884962 +My mom is the equivalent of a Q-Anon boomer, it is exhausting +--- 57884973 +>>57884921 +i would assume the silver pigeon is a hunting gun purely because it has the word pigeon in it +i think dedicated target shooting guns should be 8-9 pounds though +if you can handle the recoil the who cares, id prefer lighter anyway +--- 57885024 +>>57884950 +yus +--- 57885053 +>>57884801 +u gonna get in trouble for posting your fed-issued kit on 4chan bruh +--- 57885067 +>>57885053 +the feds assigned him to this board to monitor us and shitpost after finfag gained too much attention from the jannies +--- 57885070 +Norinco NP762 with handloaded non corrosive +It’s shooting to the left. Pretty happy with these results, the two closest to the centre were when I aimed at the right side of the target +--- 57885080 +>>57884973 +I'm pretty small being 5'6 and 140lbs so I like the fit and swing of lighter guns will probably start hand reloading lighter loads to compensate for weight. +Tried Browning and shouldering always felt off due to how big they are. +--- 57885081 +>>57885070 +are you concerned about the firing pin breaking at all +--- 57885099 +>>57885081 +It already did kek +I got a replacement for it but I’m going to make my own on the lathe +--- 57885119 +Whats the breakdown from today's case bros? +--- 57885132 +>>57885119 +https://twitter.com/TWilsonOttawa/status/1648039303400812547 +--- 57885149 +>>57885099 +so what break it exactly? hard primers, dry firing? +--- 57885157 +>>57885149 +Dry firing, but it shouldn’t have broken after dry firing it only a few of times +--- 57885182 +>>57884660 +dude changing a ar15 barrel isnt hard, all u need is a barrel nut wrench tool. and maybe a punch for the gas port??? +Its not hard anon +--- 57885194 +>>57885182 +it isnt hard but the monolithic upper needs a $1000 tool apparently +--- 57885207 +>>57885080 +i picked up a used franchi instinct for $1000, its aight +disabled the auto safety though, that shits lame +--- 57885225 +>>57885194 +show us the upper anon, also post what tool you need +--- 57885242 +>>57885225 +dude scroll up, everything is there fren +--- 57885264 +>>57885242 +fren there is no picture of the 1000 dollar tool, sounds like a bit of a waste. +--- 57885267 +>>57884791 +picrel +>>57884801 +>poverty status +What's the advantage of a monolithic upper that motivated you to get one plus drop $1k on a wrench for it? +>buy one of the nu-ARs and that way it won’t go bang every time +kek'd +--- 57885284 +>>57885207 +I find Franchi great fitting guns being very narrow and built well. Their msrp price is too much though. +--- 57885317 +>>57885284 +Just make more money lol +/boomer +--- 57885322 +>>57885284 +yeah just have to make a list of the best options and see what pops up on the used market +--- 57885332 +>>57884380 +>Schizo woman single handedly seals the fate of millions of canadians +--- 57885365 +>>57885267 +there are literally no advantages to a monolithic upper for an AR, complete memes +--- 57885368 +>>57885157 +That sounds like what was happening with early thureon defense pins. They said that they tracked the issue down to a problem with the heat-treating and the replacement pins are fine. +--- 57885404 +>>57884791 +It's scary +--- 57885411 +>>57885267 +Technically you could have gotten one for less, a genuine Diemaco barrel nut wrench was $1000 because they only made them for the Army so the thousand includes the cost of retooling for them but spread across only one or two tools. I got one that was custom made by Nordic and it worked extremely well for $250. +The advantage of monolithic is improved accuracy during sustained fire, absolute zero retention of lasers and handguard mounted optics(like clip on thermals) even if dropped, and and lower weight versus an equivalent rail that has the same length. +>>57885225 +That anon wasn’t me, but I haven’t used the tool since 2020 and it’s buried under piles of boxes right now. +>>57885365 +The cope of a poorfag who doesn’t own one. +--- 57885420 +>>57885080 +Get a youth LOP stock for your shotgun. +>t. 5'7 +--- 57885570 +>>57885411 +most of those advantages are just theoretical, the only quantifiable one is when you have some ridiculous optics setup which you dont have because all you use is an acog +--- 57885626 +>>57885570 +thats the only advantage of a mono upper, i couldn't see any advantage, maybe the dude that has the rifle could tell us since he has the rifle. How hard is it to change the barrel with that special tool? +--- 57885650 +>>57885411 +>poorfag +you're sacrificing ease of service to solve a problem you didn't have, and you spent money doing it. + +Regardless it looks really fucking nice +--- 57885670 +AP rifle rounds are legal but pistol aren’t +But could they say that .223 is a “pistol” round the same way there are 10 round AR “pistol magazines” and make it illegal to have true AP .223? +--- 57885708 +>>57885332 +Fuck that was brutal, same with the CCFR lawyer constantly bringing up C21 to the point where the judge had to ask him to stop. Tomorrow the Alberta government is testifying against the OIC hopefully they don’t fuck it up. +--- 57885719 +>>57884356 (OP) +Those "rifles" melted in Afghanistan +--- 57885782 +I'm very happy with the CCFR court case today. Chins up, friends. +--- 57885788 +>>57885782 +same fren :) +--- 57885791 +>>57885719 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTbTyFloelc [Embed] +kept working even when it was totally in flames +--- 57885801 +>>57885791 +Irrelevant +--- 57885808 +>>57885801 +>t. poorfag +--- 57885827 +>>57885570 +Maybe I do, maybe I don’t. I’ve posted my setup here before many times +>>57885626 +It’s actually easier than bolt on or clamp on barrel types lol. I take off the muzzle device. I stick an Allen wrench up through the bottom of the rail to take off the gas block. I slide the gas block and tube out. I take my tool, I slide it down the middle, and I wrench off the barrel nut. Then I take the barrel out. Reverse this process to put it back together. All of these steps still need to be done with a normal upper, only there are the additional steps of taking the rail off first. There was also only a 1 MOA zero shift between the two different barrels when I swapped. That is the benefit of having a top shelf monolithic upper. +--- 57885833 +>>57885808 +>You can't afford asbestos gloves +--- 57885849 +Anyone running a Vortex UH1? Was thinking Eotech but LGS has a decent deal on UH1s +>>57885670 +They can say whatever they want, BX25 ban proved that +--- 57885865 +>>57885080 +>I'm pretty small being 5'6 +a-are you a grill? +--- 57885880 +>>57885132 +Nobody wants to follow after that crazy random bitch spent the day ranting about genocide +--- 57885889 +>>57885791 +ok that was pretty baddass. he kept shooting until it was too hot to handle +--- 57885901 +>>57885889 +and whats amazing is he shot it again when the fire went out and it still worked +--- 57885905 +>>57885791 +luv me h&k simple as +--- 57885910 +>>57885880 +>Nobody wants to follow after that crazy random bitch spent the day ranting about genocide +Did you happen to watch it? Was Tracy's summation fairly accurate? +--- 57885914 +>>57885827 +So then it comes down to buying a very expensive tool, i saw someone here saying it was 1000 dollars. Vs taking off the rail and using a normal 20 dollar tool. I don't see the advantage of monolithic uppers but i hope you enjoy your rifle, its a nice one +--- 57885950 +>>57885910 +No I didn't, just going off what Tracy said which is likely the very sanitized version of what that self-representing schizo said. Why they let her attach herself to the case I will never understand. She did the same insanity back when the injunction hearings were under way. +--- 57885954 +>>57885905 +Fuck h&k +--- 57885968 +>>57885901 +i feel like i would want something more than safety glasses for a test like that +--- 57885975 +>>57885954 +Out of the way peasant +--- 57885984 +>>57885880 +>"i didnt actually listen in to the proceedings" +She isn't wrong, though. This is a direct attack on an established culture and specific demographic of Canadian citizens. +--- 57886009 +>>57885950 +She has GFM running right now that has $30,000 so far. I have a feeling that the reason shes there is because the CCFR donor kick up a fuss when they dont present this kind of argument. +--- 57886013 +>>57885984 +Yeah obviously, but you're not gonna convince some nogunz AWFL from Ottawa with that argument +--- 57886025 +>>57885984 +>t. self representing sovereign citizen that is travelling under maritime law to the courtroom +>>57886009 +I hope they're glad that she got their feelings about this whole thing on the official record while potentially torpedoing the actual case +--- 57886040 +>>57885984 +she was schizo, acting like a lunatic, literally started going on tangents about rules for radicals and other meme shit +--- 57886050 +>>57886025 +>I hope they're glad that she got their feelings about this whole thing on the official record while potentially torpedoing the actual case +I agree that its not likely to convince a female Ottawa sexual assault specialist judge. Why do you think it hurts the case though? +--- 57886051 +>>57885975 +Meme polymer shit that melts show me a single case of this shit being used long term deuchistanis even train with brooms because over the long term their rifles would fall apart or melt and warp +--- 57886056 +>>57886040 +>she was schizo, acting like a lunatic, literally started going on tangents about rules for radicals and other meme shit +Did she really? Where did you see that? +--- 57886057 +Wait so what the fuck happened? Did this schizo self-representative just fuck up our case? Her point about cultural genocide wasn't half bad but it went downhill from there. +What's left on the itinerary? Alberta, then the liberal lawyers, and then a decision in July? +--- 57886108 +>>57886051 +>those grapes were probably sour anyways +The rifle has been tested, fielded and used and held up throughout. Its specification calls for an insane 10,000 round count between cleanings. The entirety of the complaints lodged against it were by one female politician with defense contractor backing that wanted their own rifle fielded instead. You can just admit that you can't afford one, you don't need to cope. +--- 57886119 +>>57886108 +Cope +--- 57886147 +>>57886056 +yes +on the live stream +she also sounded like she was about to cry several times + +it was retarded +--- 57886171 +>>57886108 +>The report was released by the Fraunhofer Ernst Mach Institut and Wehrtechnische Dienststelle 91 on 19 April 2015. According to their 372-page report, the observed hit rate of the predominantly plastic weapon with the unsupported free-floating barrel drops down to a mere 7% at 100 meters when the temperature increases by 30 °C +and +>On 22 April 2015, von der Leyen announced that the G36 would be phased out of the German army due to these concerns and stated that "The Heckler & Koch G36 has no future in the German army in its current state of construction. +it gets better +>In 2016, the Ministry of Defence attempted to sue Heckler & Koch, saying they were legally obligated to repair the subpar G36 rifles. +oof +--- 57886195 +>>57886147 +I checked the CCFR group page and it’s a literal circle jerk of people praising her kek +>>57886057 +Yes +--- 57886233 +>>57886025 +>potentially torpedoing the actual case +nigga what? qrd +--- 57886244 +>>57886195 +>I checked the CCFR group page and it’s a literal circle jerk of people praising her kek +lol jesus +it was embarrassing +i mean most of what she said wasn't wrong per se, but she sounded schizo as fuck and most of it simply just isn't relevant to a court hearing +--- 57886251 +>>57886244 +Yeah a lot of her points I don’t disagree but when you’re fighting in court you can’t go on rants like that. Also her throwing the sks under the bus wasn’t fucking cool +--- 57886252 +>>57884356 (OP) +WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED ARE WE FUCKED??? +--- 57886261 +>>>/int/180678155 +--- 57886262 +>>57886171 +An entirely politically driven report backed by Ursula von der Leyen because she had a personal vendetta to replace the G36. You can go look up the court case afterwards to find out that the government did in fact lose it, because the report had no merit. You can also watch the FW video about the controversy. You can also watch videos of g36s being tested after significant gunfire and see that they don't have issues. You won't do any of these things, because you're just coping that you can't afford one. +--- 57886267 +>>57886252 +probably not, but the schizo woman definitely annoyed the judge and probably gave her a bad impression of what many gun owners may be like +is that enough of a difference to make a difference? +that's up to the judge +--- 57886276 +>>57884356 (OP) +Still job hunting. 3 months of applying to about 100 jobs a week. 1 call back for an interview say they'll call me back and let me know it's been 2 week. Local restaurants got support our troops shit all over it tried applying there cause veteran but I'm not good enough to wash their dishes. My cousin told me he can get me a job on the rigs. Guess I'm gonna be an ab anon soon fuck the maratimes. +--- 57886277 +>>57886262 +I don’t think I could drop 10k on it but these myths of issues with it are just a big cope +--- 57886279 +>>57886252 +Dude just scroll up and read the thread +--- 57886281 +>>57886276 +What gun clubs should I join or avoid? +--- 57886295 +>>57886262 +I could afford one I just wouldn't buy one +--- 57886301 +>>57886295 +you will never have thermals or a g36 +sad! +--- 57886319 +>>57886262 +>>57886277 +lol +>Heckler & Koch owned up to the limitations of the G36 rifles currently in service with the German military as well as other agencies in over 30 different countries in their well-organized 13-point press release. +https://web.archive.org/web/20131016222136/http://www.guns.com/2012/05/09/heckler-koch-hak-hk-responds-to-g36-rifle-useless-allegations/ +--- 57886320 +>>57886301 +Cope, I would never waste my money on subpar shit +--- 57886324 +>>57886267 +I seriously hope it didn't fuck us, damn. +--- 57886329 +>>57886320 +only person coping here is you little buddy +--- 57886335 +>>57886171 +Lol, you the same nigger that tries to insist that monolithics are worse? +Just because you had the misfortune of purchasing into the Canadian AR 180 meme, doesn’t mean you should be taking it out on the world. Unless of course you got that bad advice here then that’s unfortunate but very funny. +But if you weren’t aware, HK one that government suit and received damages paid by the government and the organization that claimed false statements about the G36. +--- 57886347 +>>57886319 +Crazy how they owned up to the report 3 years before the report was published. Do you even read the garbage that you post? Or are you just hoping that you can spam enough that your points won't be refuted? +--- 57886351 +>>57886329 +You're shilling guns that melt and then saying cope +H&k are shit +--- 57886356 +>>57886324 +i don't think it will, it clearly did annoy the judge but she is also aware of the context of who that woman is and what she was doing, i don't think it will have any impact on her ruling +--- 57886366 +>>57886147 +>she also sounded like she was about to cry several times +I can see some utility in countering a hysterical anti-gun cat lady judge with a hysterical pro-gun cat lady litigant. +It might strike a chord. +--- 57886371 +>>57886319 +Cope +--- 57886376 +>>57886356 +>i don't think it will have any impact on her ruling +which will be against us, because she is a liberal feminist dyke bitch. our struggle will continue +--- 57886385 +>>57886371 +Cope +--- 57886389 +>>57886376 +we'll see, if that happens then it's going to the supreme court +--- 57886397 +>>57886335 +>>57886347 +imagine shilling for a gun that was replaced by an m16, kek. +you didn't help develop it, you just spent too much money on it - you don't need to shill and you can stop coping + +i would never buy a canadian build gun besides +>atrs +>cooey +>c1a1 (lol) +>inglis hi-power + +i do, however own a 180. i wouldn't shill for it though - i can accept it's shortcomings, can you? +--- 57886403 +>>57886366 +I hadn't considered that lol. +The one thing the schizo lady did OK with was the history and gun culture in Canada, I doubt that has much relevance to the case though. +She did more harm than good, I'm sure. +--- 57886405 +>>57886389 +Ah yes, the supreme court that gave us our concealed weapons laws, that will go swimmingly. +--- 57886419 +>>57886397 +>y-you're shilling it +No, I'm just reminding you that you're poor +--- 57886437 +57886397 +Seething poorfag. Lol, lmao even. +--- 57886446 +H&k makes poor quality equipment. +--- 57886459 +>>57886405 +>Ah yes, the supreme court that gave us our concealed weapons laws, that will go swimmingly. +can you expand on this? not familiar with what you're talking about +--- 57886464 +Heckler & Kope +--- 57886479 +>>57886419 +>>57886437 +i like the part where you went from shilling for H&K to calling me poor, which i assure you, i'm not. + +now let me give you youngsters some advice - accept the shortcomings of your rifles, and don't attach so much of your personality to your possessions. that's what niggers do. +--- 57886491 +>>57886405 +>Ah yes, the supreme court that gave us our concealed weapons laws, that will go swimmingly. +I'm in the same mindset. It seems destined to go there no matter what happens and our court has been deferential to the state for years and thats only seemed to accelerate in recent times. +>...That year Justice Cory of the Supreme Court of Canada, by obiter dictum, declared that Canadians "do not have a constitutional right to bear arms." While the justice's statement was merely a "by the way" remark or personal opinion, Prime Minister Jean Chrétien's newly elected Liberals began transforming that idea into law. In April 1994 Mr. Chrétien's Minister of Justice, Allan Rock, publically announced the Liberals' crusade against the personal ownership of firearms in Canada by declaring: +>"I came to Ottawa in November with the firm belief that the only people in this country who should have guns are police officers and soldiers" +>Ignoring logic, history, and our Canadian culture Mr. Rock then tabled Bill C-68, the Firearms Act and the attendant changes to the Criminal Code that make the mere possession of a firearm illegal. +>Using a fraudulently altered RCMP document that completely overstated the harm that firearms caused in Canada, the Liberals used their majority to ram their legislation though Parliament. The Canadian Government now blatantly claims the authority to decide: +>"the circumstances in which an individual does or does not need a firearm to protect the life of that individual." +--- 57886502 +>>57886459 +Look up the retardation that is R. v. Felawka +--- 57886521 +>>57886479 +>I'm not poor! +>only one (1) single shelf of assorted automotive fluids +--- 57886542 +hACKle and COCK, just couldn't see myself paying thousands for some piece over prices piece of shit +--- 57886552 +>>57886521 +>clearly 2 shelves +anon, i +>>57886542 +this is so retarded i kek'd +--- 57886562 +>>57886479 +>bubbad shit sks and some boomer car nobody cares about +--- 57886604 +>>57886491 +--- 57886607 +>>57886562 +I know what I got sonny now let me tell you why those krauts can't make a rifle +--- 57886614 +>>57886552 +>clearly 2 shelves +My bad, missed the cut-off top shelf +I retract my statement and go fuck myself, this anon is clearly rolling in it fellas +>>57886607 +Kek +--- 57886670 +hope you boys tend a good garden +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uASQgLwaIs [Embed] +--- 57886672 +>>57886502 +>The accused went target shooting with a friend and took a rapid transit train to return home. When he got on the train, his .22 calibre rifle was wrapped in his jacket because he felt that it was not "proper" to carry his rifle openly. Two passengers became alarmed and notified a train employee. When asked by the employee what he had in his jacket, the accused laughingly replied that he was "going on a killing spree" +lol what a fucking retard + +why didn't this dumbass have a case? +--- 57886689 +>>57885865 +no just a manlet who want's to get into clay shooting. +--- 57886694 +>>57886672 +The "Just a prank bro" Act wasn't written in to law yet in 93 +--- 57886722 +>>57886604 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nfYCg5qKPc [Embed] +--- 57886737 +>>57886689 +why are you so short? mexican or something? +--- 57886770 +>>57886397 +Jeez, I thought you were a fag, but now I know it. I don’t own an SL8 or a G36. The M416 is a piece of shit and the worst AR variant such that every military that gets them replaces them. It’s literally just a cash grab since the army wants an AR now and HK is going to deliver them one. I do own the best rifle made in Canada and you know which one that is. However as an anon earlier pointed out I’m actually just the fed assigned to you after the finfag took his/her time off to transition. +--- 57886805 +>>57886397 +>own a 180. i wouldn't shill for it though +But i want you to anon, isnt it the #bestcope. It's certainly the prettiest... +--- 57886818 +>>57886604 +thank you for posting this. clearly an important case +--- 57886840 +>>57886689 +Balkan decent, in a country where the avg height is 6.0' my parents decided to marry short people. +mother 5'5 father 5'7 could have been worse considering my options. +--- 57886849 +>>57886737 +>>57886840 +wrong (You) +--- 57886882 +>>57886818 +>thank you for posting this. clearly an important case +Youre welcome. This guys daughter has an ancient YT channel where she talks about it: +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJQOQP4FcaQ [Embed] +Heres a talk from the CCF: +https://youtu.be/8VdRWybmxLM [Embed] +And here's a CBC radio interview with Bruce Montague: +https://youtu.be/pMpnswjQFWw [Embed] +--- 57886894 +I haveth returned. +--- 57886899 +>>57886770 +>he owns a C1A1 +NICE +>>57886805 +there's literally nothing wrong with it - though it's overpriced because canada. +i blasted the hell out of it without cleaning to see what would happen. eventually i had to (sometimes) assist the bolt forward after reloading. +--- 57886909 +>>57886244 +She said a lot of what people think deep down but man it wasn’t the time or place in that courtroom when we’re trying to fight for not just the rights of firearms, but the overeach of the government and who has the authority to declare property illegal on a whim + +Absolutely useless having her today and only hurt our fight +--- 57886912 +>>57886894 +Why though? I didn't ask you to. +--- 57886927 +>>57886894 +Welcome back, Alan. +--- 57886931 +>>57884380 +It's almost like she's arguing to get the SKS banned don't they atleast vet these people and their arguments before setting them loose in court lmao +--- 57886934 +>>57886909 +I disagree, she should have said all that shit and more. should have named the jew and listed all their gun grabbing a genociding shenanigans +--- 57887025 +>>57886899 +back when i had an ar180b i machined a slot for the og bolt handle, highly recommend +--- 57887393 +>>57884380 +That was Christine Genereaux? +--- 57887414 +>>57887025 +How did you do the knurling? +--- 57887499 +>>57887393 +Yup +--- 57887553 +>>57887414 +I just bought the handle off the interwebs, bolt carrier just needs an anti rotation slot machined out +--- 57887566 +>>57886840 +>Balkan +Yikes...you literally have weaker bones than a black woman b +--- 57887594 +>>57886840 +how the hell do you end up being shorter than your dad? lol +--- 57887640 +>>57887594 +Way she goes bud +--- 57887723 +>>57884356 (OP) +>US media calling for military intervention in Canada +US backed DPR style militias when?? + +https://youtu.be/bmSSAu20f0A [Embed] +--- 57887725 +>>57887594 +I play with the genetic card I'm dealt. +--- 57887798 +>>57887640 +>>57887725 +Good anons, you dont have to live like this anymo. +Colleagues at Yonsei Kim & Chung orthapedic clinic welcome you short break legs stretch out you tall. +--- 57887832 +>>57887798 +Guy on left would fuck up guy on right. +--- 57887889 +You ever wonder about how many home invaders get killed by weapons owners and disposed of, never called in to the police? We only hear about the cases where the home owner is charged with murder or whatever, but with our faulty laws for self defence, there must be lots of incidences where the bastards are just chopped up and buried. +--- 57887897 +>>57887798 +I'm not concerned lol. I also have a 43" chest and 32" waist +--- 57887914 +>>57887889 +Anon, stop I can only get so erect +--- 57887991 +Bushmasterbros…. +https://www.bushmaster.com/shop/acr/acr/ +We’re back. +--- 57888015 +>>57885332 +Gentlemen, I regret to inform you that + +women +--- 57888016 +>>57887991 +id rather by a 5 year old car instead +--- 57888089 +>>57887991 +>8k+ CAD +yeah, nope +--- 57888092 +>>57884380 +she did not show this to a lwyer or even just a friend so that they can say "your shits all fucked up, do it again" +--- 57888203 +CBC has now been labeled as 70% government funded media. Elon is shitposting now +--- 57888215 +>>57888203 +https://twitter.com/CBC +--- 57888219 +>>57888203 +who gives a fuck what that kike says +--- 57888230 +>>57888203 +>>57888215 +>69% Government-funded Media +kek, mad lad +--- 57888247 +>>57888203 + 69% now kek +--- 57888292 +>>57888203 +>>57888247 +Hilarious. I love Elon now wtf +--- 57888358 +>>57884356 (OP) +better then the vortex defender or what? cheaper for sure +--- 57888458 +I am starting a business this summer, been thinking about it for a couple years and have now decided to jump on it. Anyone ITT have any advice on how not to fuck up? +>inb4 it's off topic and jannie bans me for off topic +Calm down please, I come in peace and am asking /cangen/ for their infinite wisdom and not to derail. +--- 57888487 +>>57888358 +Yep. That optic is good to go. +--- 57888515 +Thoughts on these? + +https://www.rdsc.ca/manufacturers/primary-arms/primary-arms-slx-3x32-g3-prism-scope-acss-300blk-cqb-m2-illuminated-reticle-moa.html +--- 57888533 +>>57888487 +What plate do I need for this to run it on an Smith & Wesson M&P? +--- 57888534 +>>57887723 +US backed militias would look more like ISIS than anything resembling the DPR, maybe with extra homo sprinkles on top +--- 57888577 +>>57888458 +What kind of business you blithering retard +--- 57888588 +>>57888515 +Big. Primary arms makes a 3x microprism now +--- 57888619 +>>57888487 +>>57888358 +Hold on a minute last night cangen said Chinese optics were for fags, is this a trap +--- 57888636 +>>57888619 +Stop listening to shitposters +--- 57888645 +>>57887723 +this is cringe +--- 57888695 +>>57888203 +>>57888215 +>>57888219 +>>57888230 +>>57888247 +>>57888292 +Elon's got some Sask boy history, and his grandpa was a hardline SoCred +https://leaderpost.com/feature/elon-musk-inherited-a-lifetime-of-adventure-from-his-sask-family +--- 57888714 +>>57888636 +Ik, many are Ukie-tested and good to go +--- 57888811 +>>57888577 +Cleaning +--- 57888851 +Think 900 is reasonable for an unfired WS-MCR? +--- 57888855 +>>57888811 +Show up at the proper time and do a good job. +--- 57888867 +>>57888695 +his mother is a kike and so is he, end of story +--- 57888869 +>>57888851 +Yea. I got wk for that +--- 57888876 +>>57888851 +that is a good price but the private sales market is dead these days +--- 57888880 +>>57888876 +I'm trying to sell it tbqh +Just taking up space +--- 57888892 +>>57888880 +yeah i figured +--- 57888894 +>>57888880 +Why not use it? +--- 57888907 +>>57888894 +>Why not use it? +Because I bought a tavor and a type 81 around the same time and was holding the WS-MCR for a friend but he never got his PAL so now it's just locked up for nothing and I'd rather take my Israeli out and sell the WS unfired. +--- 57888923 +>>57888907 +Just hold onto it it doesn't take up much space anon, good thing having a spare .223. you could set it up opposite your tavor +--- 57888932 +>>57888923 +Eh, might not even be in the country come next year. Heading to freedomland in the near future. +--- 57888942 +>>57888932 +I don't like you any more. If you were once handsome you're now ugly +--- 57888950 +>>57888942 +Hey man +More money, more guns +--- 57889022 +>>57888932 +>freedomland +Where is that? +--- 57889040 +>>57885132 +Everything stated in those tweets was 100% correct. Weapons are part of my culture. Limiting my access to the shooting sports denies me of my right to self expression and cultural identity. Even cangen faggots can agree with that. The only reason this is so hotly contested is because it is a battle for the existence of our culture and heritage. +--- 57889046 +>>57888867 +His mom has a suspicious maiden name but also there are quotes from the Canadian Jewish Congress kvetching about his mom's dad's antisemitism when he was a SoCred +>>57888880 +>>57888907 +You'd probably sell it pretty fast for $900 on gunpost +--- 57889058 +>>57889040 +I don't think anyone here said they disagreed with anything she said, just that her saying that isn't doing the case any favors considering the judge is a Laurentiod retard who seemed receptive to the first couple lawyers' kid glove approach +--- 57889065 +>>57889046 +need i say more? +--- 57889114 +>>57885950 +Well, here's why they do these things. Think of it like a victim impact statement. She is a normal person explaining why she was affected by the government's crime... Going by the play by play, everything she said was accurate and only a faggot denies it. When considering a case, you're supposed to have as many views as possible. If Ms. Generoux's statements were damaging, so be it... Because she was right and I'm tired of pretending she wasn't. This is a culture, we are distinct from the other protected cultural groups of Canadians while also enjoying this heritage that is universal and open to all Canadians. +--- 57889133 +>>57889022 +Somalia. +--- 57889156 +>>57886050 +A sexual assault judge that often sees the impact on rape victims... Seeing the results of government action on a woman who exhibits the same symptoms of surviving sexual assault? I actually have hope. +--- 57889171 +>>57886366 +No, that's exactly it isn't it. You can't just logic your way out of this... These Liberal appointees are emotional people and only ever respond to emotional arguments. It helps. +--- 57889237 +>>57889065 +I'd prefer a profile pic where I can see what she's doing with her hands +>>57889114 +>Think of it like a victim impact statement +That's a good perspective, hadn't thought of it that way. I still think despite her being totally correct, it wasn't going to sway this judge, she isn't going to understand it. +--- 57889348 +>>57889133 +Based, enjoy your civilian-owned RPG7 +--- 57889371 +>>57889237 +Having it said is good, because now the serious guys can get back in there and be reasonable diplospeak nerds again and quantify everything that was stated emotionally, but in cold logic. It works well. Many cases are run like this. I don't think it hurts at all and honestly, showing the emotional impact it has on a woman specifically helps quite a bit. It shows that it isn't all just nasty white rednecks that value this culture... But female participants in the culture, which also extends to the wives, daughters and mothers of everyone involved in it. Running this play by a sexual assault specialist is pretty good honestly. +--- 57889399 +Refinished the wood on my Type 81, I think it turned out well. Still waiting for a way to mount the Kobra on it. +--- 57889424 +>>57889399 +Is that a flash hider? +--- 57889425 +>>57889399 +i like the pso better than the kobra +--- 57889430 +guys i don't feel so good... i think there's too many assault weapons in the country or something +--- 57889432 +>>57889399 +Looks nice, good job. +--- 57889438 +>>57889399 +can you greentext the process? +--- 57889478 +>>57889399 +>wood on my Type 81 +>wood on Type 81 + +I've shit turds more durable than that limpdick chink wood. +--- 57889496 +>>57889371 +The lawyer who had the best rapport with the judge came back and closed out the day today FYI +I hope you're correct about it being effective +--- 57889502 +>>57889438 +>Sand wood +>Apply stain +>Apply clear coating +--- 57889505 +>>57888534 +Lmao keep dreaming zigger +--- 57889510 +>>57889502 +what stain +--- 57889514 +>>57889478 +Thankfully, dents and scratches don’t affect the serviceability of the firearm. I’m not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth too much that we can get the service rifles of at least two different moderm countries in the IWI X95 and the chinese T81/T97, all three of em being still in use today, to boot. +--- 57889519 +>>57889505 +NO BUMFIGHT CONTENT IN /CANGEN/, FUCKING NOGUNS. +--- 57889522 +>>57889505 +Hey little guy +--- 57889526 +>>57889510 +Whichever one you'd like fren. +--- 57889527 +>>57889424 +Fake can/barrel sleeve some guy on gunpost makes, purely for aesthetics. Surprisingly good quality but the finish is pretty shit, comes right off + +>>57889432 +Thanks + +>>57889478 +Agreed, surprised it refinished as well as it did +--- 57889535 +>>57887991 +Bro we never left. Dana at Templar precision has been making parts for the ACR for a long time. I'd rather him carry on the platform than Franklin armory which might fuck it up. Dana has a vested interest and has proven competent. +--- 57889539 +>>57889514 +>service rifles of at least two different moderm countries +Don't forget G36 (almost) too +--- 57889552 +>>57889539 +Oh shit. Yeah that too. It’s a shame HK hates the poors lel +--- 57889553 +>>57889535 +Nice fun, how do you like that there optic fren +--- 57889572 +>>57889539 +Does the SG-540 count, too? As far as I know it’s still a main firearm for the Chilean army. +Next someone needs to bring in civilian versions of the FX-05, AKA Mexico’s weird G36 clone. They’d be cheap, too. Small unit cost AFAIK. +--- 57889586 +>>57889510 +This is what I did + +>strip old finish off with gel stripper +>sand to remove residual finish and until smooth +>raise gain, let dry, sand again +>apply few coats of minwax red mahogany trying to get the mismatched wood to be the same color +>dry for a day or so +>spend the next few days applying coats of satin wipe-on poly, sanding smooth between each coat +--- 57889592 +>>57889586 +where do you get the gel stripper +--- 57889610 +>>57889572 +I'll take one army man green Mexican fish gun please good sir. +--- 57889627 +>>57889572 +I thought all the Canadian batch was fucked up but if not, then sure those count +--- 57889637 +>>57889610 +>unit cost $520 USD +>$700 CAD for mexican pseudo-G36s +MAKE IT HAPPEN, TI. +--- 57889652 +>>57889514 +It truly is a shame to live in a country physically touching America only to have legal access to the only good rifles made by jews and chinks. +--- 57889747 +>>57889592 +You must be from Toronto to ask such a stupid caveman-ass question. + +The answer is a hardware store son. It's a store that sells things to working men, butch lesbos, and retires who identify as working men. +--- 57889863 +>>57889747 +hardware store like walmart? +--- 57889893 +What are some essentials for a new hasguns clothing wise? I have a poncho and a backpack so far. +--- 57889896 +>>57889863 +No, though maybe. +Better bet would be hardware store like Amazon. +--- 57889901 +>>57889893 +Level 4 plates +--- 57889908 +>>57889863 +Sephora +--- 57889917 +>>57889893 +a nice insulated jacket for winter shooting +--- 57889926 +>>57889893 +Sell the poncho and backpack to fund nods. +--- 57889948 +>>57889901 +I wanted to buy plates and my co worker asked me "Has there been a single incident in Canada where a civilian has worn plates and got shot at? There's no point for plates." + +And then I showed him where the RCMP shot up Onslow firehall. No, whether or not the owner of plates will actually have them handy when they'll need them is highly unlikely. +--- 57889968 +Where can I buy level 4 plates for my dog? +--- 57889972 +>>57889893 +Gloves (mechanix are good), ear pro, eye pro, innawoods boots, innawoods shoes, winter gear, splash pants, kneepads are good too. +Also plate carrier, or chest rig if poorfag, or FLC if really poorfag. Check Misty Mountain or Frontier for poorfag surp. +--- 57889974 +>>57889948 +I wear my plates to the range as ppe. +I have a bad habit of shooting myself centremass. +--- 57889987 +>>57889893 +cleaning kit+cleaners and misc bits +combination trigger lock(s) +ear protection +gun safe +ammo boxes +good boots +mess kit +compass +basic medkit +IFAK +--- 57889994 +>>57885975 +how come he don't want me, man? +--- 57890018 +>>57889987 +Very good advice but anon specified "clothing" +>>57889948 +Nods > plates, but stacking extra ammo is a more practical purchase than either +--- 57890034 +>>57889994 +>Heckler +It's right there in the name anon +--- 57890057 +>>57889901 +I live in a very quiet area so I think I'll put plates lower on the priority list. +>>57889972 +Should I consider buying gaiters? +--- 57890058 +My parents are liberals and they hate weapons. And I live in a fucking zoo (Toronto) + +How do I explain to them in a polite manner that Toronto is collapsing and that I need to defend myself in case the worst happens? +--- 57890063 +>>57890034 +H&K makes good stuff, but unfortunately they're also a bunch of grabbers who think civilians shouldn't be able to own their shit so fuck 'em +--- 57890075 +>>57889994 +>G36's ugly sister +No thanks, never wanted it. +--- 57890084 +>>57889994 +H&K hates the civilian market, it's basically a part of their brand to maintain exclusivity +--- 57890114 +>>57890058 +you're gonna have to move out anon. +my parents are lefties too. they're old now so they're racist fag-bashing lefties, kinda funny +--- 57890115 +>>57890057 +yeah, gaiters are definitely underrated, they're great if you're out in the muck +--- 57890120 +>>57890057 +>gaiters +Wouldn't hurt probably but depends on the terrain of where you're planning to go shooting, if you're not already /out/ then find some land you're allowed to shoot and scope it out, you'll get an idea what you need. +>>57890058 +Show them one of the gazillion violent crimes against regular citizens in Toronto or the Starbucks murder in Vancouver and the guy who killed 1 of the 6 home invaders in his house in Etobicoke or wherever +See if they can conclude which victim is still alive, and why +--- 57890126 +>>57890084 +To be fair, you need a very high IQ to appreciate the SL8 +--- 57890149 +>>57890120 +lefties are not prepared for the collapse or for any violence in general usually. they'll just say "it won't happen to me" and sidestep the entire debate +--- 57890156 +>>57890057 +>gaiters +I just dress my pants and use some permethrin +--- 57890162 +>>57890058 +Other than the obvious; get the fuck out of their while your still alive. +Maybe show the your closet full of preps, all the food and water and survival gear you have stockpiled, the gun is just another piece of the puzzle. +>>57890126 +Yeah i appreciate them not threading barrels for me, so i can learn to do it myself. +--- 57890175 +>>57890058 +>move out +Or +>just get the guns you want and don’t tell them +Or just explain you’re getting into sport shooting and hide the prepper side. I’ve gun pilled a few antis. It’s easier than you think just got to ease them into it. +--- 57890183 +>>57890126 +Without an authoritarian leader to tell them not to Germans immediately begin eating their own poo. They have a special shelf it German toilets to collect it. +--- 57890186 +>>57890149 +Usually not but if they can't put together a puzzle as simple as the one I said, anon should realize that his situation is untenable and get the fuck out of Torcongo +--- 57890226 +>>57890183 +Listen let them enjoy themselves, at least their sexual deviances don't involve Fido +--- 57890249 +>>57890183 +>canada had C1A1 in 1954 +>USA fielded m14 with a fucking open action into vietnam +kek how is that possible +--- 57890263 +>>57890226 +You damn well know it does and worse. +>>57890249 +Burgers be like that. +--- 57890285 +>>57890183 +you are confusing Germans with Indians +--- 57890292 +>>57890183 +The tasteful thickness of it +--- 57890297 +>>57890249 +The m14 was brought to us by boomers that loved the garand, the rifle that 'won the war' +--- 57890301 +>>57890292 +I got a dewat to help me cope +--- 57890308 +>>57890183 +I spent a few weeks in a house that had the German poopshelf toilet, stupidest fucking thing ever +--- 57890312 +>>57890301 +give it the MM treatment +--- 57890332 +>>57890308 +The water helps with the smell as well so they are sitting directly above a pile of shit on their phone or something +--- 57890366 +>>57889994 +They're just still salty the US Military cock teased them into thinking it was going to get adopted instead of sticking with the M16 for two more decades and then going to Sig. +--- 57890390 +>>57890366 +>Did you think that it was finally over? +--- 57890420 +>>57889505 +Kek +Good job on making them seethe +--- 57890513 +Any frens been to a gun show lately? One in my area coming up I'm going to, not sure what to expect. Im not too hopeful, but I'm at least hoping for some decent used rifles there, or some good bulk ammo since I can't get it delivered anymore (ruralish Ontario) + +Is that reasonable? Or will it just be depressing? +--- 57890569 +>>57890513 +If you're that rural, then you're gonna have to drive to wherever the deals are. I don't think you'll find them at gun shows. You'll have to go into the belly of the beast (T*r*nt*) +--- 57890575 +>>57889863 +What the fuck is wrong with you, man? +--- 57890632 +>>57890575 +i was just jerking your chain sorry :^) +--- 57890646 +>>57889893 +In this order. Start from the feet up. + +>Good shoes... Decently priced brands are Merrell, Lowa, Salomon and even Windriver isn't bad if you want tarantula grip. +>Several pairs of wool socks. Real wool. +>Good, well fitted, pants made from materials that won't melt to your skin if they catch fire. I'm liking my Vertx recon pants. +>Velocity Systems Boss Rugby shirt. They're wonderful. +>A chest rig. I prefer shit like Haley Strategic, though it does not have to be this brand, because they're designed to also be worn as a placard on your plate carrier. +>Electronic Ear Pro. I have Peltor Defenders, but there's also stuff like Howard Leight and Walkers which are okay, I hear. +>I'm in Vancouver, so I have a few different layers and jackets, all waterproof or things that insulate while wet. Helly Hansen and Columbia are what I wear when I'm being a normie. +>A decent belt. I like Tyr Systems. Ambivalent towards Bison. +>Pouches for your belt. +>A good ruck. Still haven't gotten one myself, but Mystery Ranch makes me turgid. +>A plate carrier by a reputable manufacturer. I own an Eagle I and Velocity Systems Scarab plate carrier. Got the Scarab because DSTactical had it on the shelf and it accepts placards without modification. +>NIJ IV plates. NIJ III at bare minimum. Don't care where you get them, just get them. Milburn Mountain multicurves are based. +>A ballistic helmet. You can pay retard prices for Team Wendy ballistics, or just get a cheap surp helmet. I got a surplus MICH 2000 and it's aight. +>Maybe get yourself a bump helmet. I have a Team Wendy bump, but you can always get a Protec skate helmet and shoe goo shit onto it or install railz. + +The closer you get to the end of the list, the less you really need that shit... But that's the kind of things you should consider to round out your kit. +--- 57890667 +>>57889948 +>>57890057 +You get plates because you can and it makes some people very angry. You get them because you can. You get them because you are a free man and it is your duty to use your freedoms. +--- 57890684 +>>57890058 +Don't play the self defense card. Sell it as a fun hobby with many fascinating and beneficial aspects, such as learning how machines function and modifying them to turn them into precision instruments. Explain the wholesome aspects, Anon, and talk about reality with us. Guns are for killing things and we all understand you here. Went through the same thing with my dad when I was young. +--- 57890722 +>>57890569 + +Uggh I thought so. I'm not even really that rural, used to get ammo delivered and just left on my doorstep all the time. Purolator just started using a third party to deliver the area, so no DGs because ???? I'm still gonna try, see what's up. +--- 57890752 +>>57890667 +only the most redpilled cangenners have level 4 plates +--- 57890787 +>>57890018 +Why do civis call nvgs nods? Is it a vidya game thing? +--- 57890846 +>>57890787 +Yeah wouldn't it make more sense if we called them "Nigs" or "Nogs". as there is no "D" in "night vision noggles" +--- 57890860 +>>57890846 +Night Observation Devices (NODs) +--- 57890874 +>>57890058 + +I am sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, you're never going to convince people like that. Keep doing your thing, and get out. Move out of the city. + +I left toronto years ago, best decision I ever made. I hate going back now, it's just an ugly sprawl with nothing redeeming to it. +--- 57890893 +Seeing quite a few of these in stock. Light, vis laser, IR laser, and IR illuminator with focus all in the same unit, pretty much all you could want in a gun (provided you aren't shooting past 100m at night I guess) +--- 57891126 +>>57890058 +Explain nothing. Get PAL, get guns, keep it on the down low. If you ever have to protect yourself and your family then do what you have to. Prioritize moving out and away from chrawna while you're at it. +--- 57891224 +>>57884356 (OP) +Kek the left is seething. +--- 57891398 +Guys help, I just bought a shotgun on Saturday but now I want to buy another shotgun +--- 57891425 +>>57891398 +Hmm, have you tried shooting the shotgun that you already have? +If that doesn't work you may need to consider buying another shotgun, assuming you already have 3 tavors. +--- 57891499 +>>57891425 +I have not. There was a storm on the day i was gonna go shooting with a Fren and he ghosted me. I have 0 tavors as I hate Israel +--- 57891553 +>>57891499 +>I have 0 tavors as I hate Israel +There no shame in being poor anon (actually there kind of is), but you don't have to hide behind such lies. +What is your primary rifle? +Also your fren is a bitch. +Stormy weather is best time to go crown shooting, because then you get to practice setting tarps and starting fire in poor weather, is great experience. +If you invited him to shoot at a range though then i dont blame him for not wanting to be your fren. +--- 57891554 +New +>>57891542 → +>>57891542 → +>>57891542 → diff --git a/k/57884435.txt b/k/57884435.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..716afd5e873013c9a034c5d57073352e9be9502b --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57884435.txt @@ -0,0 +1,169 @@ +----- +--- 57884435 +Why did politicians kill the gun that would have revolutionized small arms? +--- 57884463 +>>57884448 +Fippy bippy. Too fat for the application, so it got taken out back and shot. +--- 57884485 +>>57884435 (OP) +by having an airburst grenade launcher and an optical sight with lots of electronics in it? i think caseless ammo is more revolutionary. +--- 57884486 +>>57884435 (OP) +Because mashing it together with a normal assault rifle is just retarded and to this day I don't understand why they did it. +Just make it a standalone specialist weapon. +--- 57884503 +>>57884435 (OP) +if they gave it a leaf sight instead of the stupid electronic one, got rid of the airbursting, and made the grenades 30mm, it would've been fine +--- 57884513 +>>57884486 +they did with the xm25 +--- 57884599 +>>57884435 (OP) +18lbs. + +>>57884486 +>normal assault rifle +9.8" barrel. 35" overall length. Shit's got a shorter barrel than a Mk18. +--- 57884609 +>>57884435 (OP) +That casettepunk look is still so fucking slick, i wish we, 30 years later had actual future weapons look more future than this. +--- 57884616 +>>57884435 (OP) +i understand why they killed the rifle/fuck-huge grenade launcher combo, but why didn't they keep just the grenade launcher? a grenadier with programmable air burst rounds sound pretty useful and not overly burdensome on supply +--- 57884626 +>>57884616 +They literally did exactly that >>57884513 +--- 57884637 +>>57884463 +Lmao. Wen u were the fpbp all along +--- 57884691 +>>57884435 (OP) +Ask Korea how much they like theirs, the K11 was in service for only 9 years and most of that time was trying to make it work right +--- 57884742 +>>57884609 +I agree, 90s retrofuturism is based +--- 57884767 +>>57884435 (OP) +And now North Korea has it +--- 57884775 +>>57884742 +>90s retrofuturism +>Posts a prototype aircraft from the 70s +--- 57884831 +>>57884775 +90s retrofuturism was based on peak 70s aesthetic. +--- 57884855 +>>57884775 +sorry, didn't have a better image saved. Also, is that not an f117? +--- 57884868 +>>57884767 +you can tell it’s a retarded design because it’s been adopted by north korea +--- 57884888 +>>57884831 +it was built on it, but it wasn't the same. +--- 57884899 +>>57884767 +Is that just a fucking AK chassis? +--- 57884912 +>>57884855 +It's the 117's progenitor design known as Have Blue. Fairly different to the final plane +--- 57884944 +>>57884912 +Isn't it Had Blue now? +--- 57885002 +>>57884767 +This can’t be happening, how did they get further in the tech tree than us… +--- 57885761 +>>57884503 +That's not revolutionary at all. +--- 57887120 +>>57884485 +Nah, caseless is ultimately just an incremental improvement - sure its lighter and smaller but ultimately it's doing the same job the same way as current cartridges. The closest you get to revolutionary is if you use the saved weight and bulk to make every rifleman a pseudo light machine gunner. +Infantry being able to engage targets in covered defilades out to 1000m is capability that hasn't ever existed before and one that let's you instantly win a lot of fights. +--- 57887169 +>>57884435 (OP) +They didn't. The army killed that one because it was heavy and unwieldy. Politicians killed the XM25, the one that was actually useful. +>>57884626 +>>57884616 +They didn't keep it though. +>>57884503 +>Just take away everything that gives its own niche vs weapons already ijnthe inventory and throw it away +>why didn't anyone else think of it?!1? +--- 57887399 +>>57884435 (OP) +My God it's repulsive. At least you watch TV on it when you get bored. +--- 57887436 +>>57884435 (OP) +Because it didn't in fact +>revolutionize small arms +--- 57887555 +>>57887436 +No shit, (((they))) shut it down before it got a chance to, but it would have. +--- 57887598 +>>57887436 +>>57887555 +It would have put this kind of firepower into the hands of every infantryperson. +--- 57887605 +It was too ahead of its time and not a good expenditure with the end of the Cold War. Using today’s tech it may be considered more desirable. Of course, if you were going to combine a smart munitions launcher with an Sig Fury platform (for anti body armor work) only man-sized Americans could use it. +--- 57887623 +>>57884435 (OP) +Looks like a fish.. +No more fish guns +It is too much +--- 57887932 +>>57884767 +The chinks have their own version with a bolt action launcher. I don't know why the concept is so appealing to bugpeople. +--- 57888227 +>>57884486 +>>57884486 +Japan did it best +>Lightest of the bunch +>modular system that could be attached to multiple rifle lengths +>grenade launcher portion could be detached and fired on it's own +>Least bulky electronics +Too bad it came about post soviet collapse when most military spending got axed. +--- 57888274 +>>57888227 +Korea did it, making the GL bolt action and it actually got some field use even though the project is technically canned +--- 57888669 +>>57888274 +>>57884691 +>korea +Its so frustrating that that the Sorks had constant problems with FCS but got the weapon (separate to the FCS) light enough, and the US had problems with weight but had the FCS pretty much down pat, but both projects ended up getting killed. +Just swap, damn you. +--- 57889050 +>>57884435 (OP) +So keltec can revive the concept only better +--- 57889072 +>>57887598 +Ngl, this would be fucking devastating if an entire team decided to volley fire their grenade launchers like this +--- 57889231 +>>57888227 +I can find 0 information on this besides the tweet the image is from, even in japanese. +But also its not the lightest, 7.5kg unloaded but with sight makes it lighter than only the XM-29. Not that any of them are directly comparable. +--- 57889242 +>>57884767 +>bolt action magazine fed grenade launcher on an AK. + +Fucking want it! +--- 57890601 +>>57888227 +>>57889231 +Yeah what the hell is it, anon? Got any other details? +--- 57891302 +This makes me wonder if a practical double stack mag fed semi auto grenade launcher is possible. How small in diameter can you get the grenades to be? Maybe make them longer and skinnier to allow higher mag capacity? Improvements in explosive charge/shrapnel possible? I know rheinmetal makes one but it’s huge and the mag holds only 6. +--- 57891537 +>>57887932 +Same reason they (the Chinese) made a bunch of man portable AGLs, they expect to be fighting Western forces wearing armor and using light vehicles, they need to bring something bigger to the table than just bullets. +--- 57891608 +>>57884435 (OP) +I play Ghost Recon 1+ Expansions just to use this bad boy. Early GWOT optimisim was something else +--- 57891624 +>>57884767 +They really are best Korea... +--- 57891641 +>>57891608 +I've been trying to go back and play the original Ghost Recon, but the graphics shit the bed whenever I click on a menu. :( +--- 57891657 +>>57884435 (OP) +It was roughly 18lbs loaded, meaning it was about eight pounds heavier than an M4 with an M203. diff --git a/k/57884439.txt b/k/57884439.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..87165e106685f411d5eb572d3ddf488c1717677d --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57884439.txt @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +----- +--- 57884439 +>put your gun in a quesadilla +>go to jail + +wooooow +--- 57884445 +lol is that a crack pipe next to it? +--- 57884449 +(You) +--- 57884460 +>>57884439 (OP) +Recommended pistol for quesadilla carry? +--- 57884483 +>>57884439 (OP) +Fucking lunatic, the founders never anticipated the invention of Mexican food. We need to do something to stop this menace to society, no mother should fear for their kid getting a 45 in their taco. We need to ban Mexican food +--- 57884493 +>>57884460 +glockamole +--- 57884522 +>put your peanus weenus in the quesadilla +>can now wield two guns instead of one + +wooooow +--- 57884551 +Basado +--- 57884562 +>>57884551 +Basura* +Sorry my spanish is rusty +--- 57884605 +>>57884493 +dad, you know mom said you're not allowed on 4chan anymore +--- 57884629 +>>57884439 (OP) +Had nothing to do with the crack pipe next to it, I'm sure +--- 57884673 +>>57884562 +I thought Basura means trash +--- 57884690 +>>57884483 +I wish I got a free gun with my taco. +--- 57884713 +>>57884439 (OP) +What Saturday night special did Jaun stuff into the quesadilla? +--- 57884733 +>>57884629 +It's Mississippi, if anything they arrested him because he didn't share the crack +>>57884713 +GT-27 +--- 57886293 +>>57884673 +It does +--- 57886357 +when you get pulled over you have to hide your illegal firearms wherever you can +--- 57886507 +>>57884439 (OP) +so i guess this is what they mean when they say "mexican carry" +--- 57886510 +>>57884493 +If that was Battlefield Green you’d never find it. +--- 57886532 +>>57886510 +Why isn't OD a popular color anymore? It's so soul +--- 57886574 +>>57886532 +OD is my fav. I’ve got OD furniture on an AR but want an OD Glock or Sig. +--- 57886590 +>>57884439 (OP) +What was he actually arrested for? +--- 57886611 +>>57886590 +>Mitchell was taken into custody and charged with possession of a controlled substance with intent to distribute while in possession of a firearm, possession of a controlled substance, tampering with physical evidence, possession of weapon by a felon, and possession of paraphernalia. +--- 57886630 +>>57884439 (OP) +What kinda of faggot calls the cops after getting a free gun and hit off a crack pipe with their chicken quesadilla? +--- 57886655 +>>57886574 +I love how the Canadian C7 looks. +--- 57886812 +>>57886630 +Someone physiologically incapable of realizing abstract concepts such as future states. +--- 57886822 +oh im sorry i thought this was america! +--- 57889017 +>>57884439 (OP) +Just add an underage girl and you could have a Hunter Biden taco bell experience +--- 57890500 +>>57886357 +>Chicago and Detroit deep dish pizza recipes actually developed from a need to conceal double stack stendo glocks +--- 57890503 +Did the guy who ordered the quesadilla have to give the gun back? +--- 57890635 +>>57884605 +kek +--- 57890706 +>>57884439 (OP) +thats bullshit, permitless concealed carry is legal here, he had to have been doing some other shit +--- 57890721 +>>57890706 +>he had to have been doing some other shit +doesnt see the crack pipe! +--- 57890908 +>>57890721 +All drug laws are unconstitutional. The founding fathers would want us all amped up on meth diff --git a/k/57884706.txt b/k/57884706.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..07fdcb82ef2d32ec524f657a561b598145d58c42 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57884706.txt @@ -0,0 +1,201 @@ +----- +--- 57884706 +Redpill me on this weapon. +--- 57884719 +>>57884706 (OP) +is a meme +good application: star gate +makes poorfags shart +is not used in conventional military for a reason +--- 57884782 +>>57884706 (OP) +>redpill +fuck you also go ask bpg +--- 57885572 +Little point of it next to a Mk.18, unless you just want it because it's cool. +--- 57885658 +>>57884706 (OP) +It works perfectly for the role it was designed for. +>>57885572 +It's smaller, otherwise correct +--- 57885699 +>>57884706 (OP) +You'd be hard pressed to find a more compact firearm when shouldered. Ammo is anemic and expensive but lots of folks have been killed by 5.7 just out of a handgun so it stacks up against most normal pistol calibers. Ammo is pretty light so it has the .22lr thing going on where you can carry 500 rounds easily without really noticing the weight. + +Really the only negatives from a shooting standpoint is height over bore is always going to be an issue up close and the magazines can be finicky to insert and lock in quickly. +--- 57885711 +It looks pretty cool and it's in video games +--- 57886194 +>>57884706 (OP) +Good, if janky. 5.7mm is fast but small. You'll probably need to shoot someone a lot but you've got the rounds and accuracy to do so. Top feeding magazine means you can eject the brass straight down. That fixes the ejection issue with bullpup but makes the reload slower. +--- 57886255 +>>57886194 +>You'll probably need to shoot someone a lot +Not if you're at fort Hood apparently. +--- 57886559 +>>57884719 +fpbp.This is now a Stargate thread. +--- 57886622 +If you need to shoot a lot of leetle boolets real fast from a gun you can conceal under a jacket, it's the gun for you. I have the semi version, it's a fun little range toy, would shoot it more often if the ammo wasn't so expensive. +--- 57886631 +>>57884706 (OP) +The Famas is an excellent weapon but this is one is in gay black matte rather than plastered in anime girls like it should be +--- 57886845 +>>57884706 (OP) +Its good for many kinds of security work, for example in a VIP protection detail, a high threat response police unit or a nuclear plant guard. Its also good as something to throw a set of into a vehicle without taking up too much room or being hard to retrieve in a panic. It is not a good weapon for mechanized infantry, where a little more weight and bulk is acceptable to add a more flexible effective range profile and greater penetration. The expensive ammo is a real drawback for the recreational shooter. + +It remains the preferred weapon for SG teams, and significantly outperforms most models of energy weapon against a broad spectrum of targets from the Milky Way and Pegasus galaxies, while also doing the USDoD a solid by no longer driving the price of 9mm blanks up just as it was enlarging its ground forces during the GWoT. +--- 57888181 +>>57884706 (OP) +>Smaller than any AR could hope to be +>Little bit heavy +>50 round standard mag +>Amazing Ergos +>Ambidextrous +>Height over bore is a little bad, optics options limited +>stupid simple teardown and cleaning +>blowback bolt beats itself senseless when suppressed +>ridiculously reliable, partially thanks to dry-lubed factory ammo +>widespread but limited usage +>5.7 finally adopted by NATO +>more ammo options available recently, which is also dropping prices +--- 57888267 +>>57884706 (OP) +1. It's handy, M-1 Carbine levels of handy. +2. It didn't get formally adopted because sour Krauts sabotaged the program +3. The advent of compact versions of service rifles have filled the niche it was originally intended for +4. The proliferation of hard plate body armor has eroded the value of PDW calibers +5. Stargate is a pretty cool guy, eh locks chevron seven and doesn't afraid of anything +--- 57888378 +>>57886559 +Indeed +--- 57888466 +>>57888267 +>4. The proliferation of hard plate body armor has eroded the value of PDW calibers +Just shoot low. +--- 57888554 +>>57884706 (OP) +Great for gunning down Jaffa when in a hurry, won't do much against a hand device's shield, however. +--- 57888574 +>>57888466 +Can't, they're behind generic waist high walls. +--- 57888580 +>>57888574 +Aim at the conveniently placed red barrels, obviously. +--- 57888745 +I've been trying to find a new magazine release and a stockpad forever. FN sales rep told me to get them off midwest but those guys haven't restocked any PS90 parts that aren't just mags or pins in years +--- 57888815 +>>57884706 (OP) +The more I hear and see about this thing, the more I understand it. 5.7mm is essentially a souped up .22lr that can scream through very light body armor (if you can get the good shit, which you can't unless you load it yourself.), and it fires from a 50 round magazine. having fifty rounds on a weapon as compact as the P90 is in itself a game changer due to how much lead you can spit at a target, even if it's a semi-auto PS90. I get it. If anybody tells you it's a meme they're a limp dick faggot who doesn't understand why being able to carry around 50 rounds in a package as compact as a P90 makes sense. +--- 57888884 +>>57884706 (OP) +GOOLD? +--- 57888897 +>>57888815 +It's a meme weapon, because the cases when you absolutely need to be able to punch through soft armor from a compact package are minimal to the point of being almost non-existent, in part because of the fact that if you're not dealing with soft armor, 5.7 is absolutely terrible at poking holes in people to make them stop and so you need to have 50 bullets because you're gonna have to shoot the target a whole lot of times unless you get a lucky CNS hit. However, there are a few uses for it in the context of VIP protection where it's weird shape and size make it easier to carry then a rifle but better then a pistol, and they're allowed the full auto version which helps to make up for the poor wounding. For the average person, you're gonna have to pay for a tax stamp to even get to cut the barrel down to a point where the gun is providing any advantage over a traditional rifle or bullpup, and even then it's still a meme because of the number of followup shots you're gonna have to take compared to using a modern caliber that was designed for a SBR. +--- 57888940 +>>57886559 +Agreed. +--- 57888975 +I have a theory that a 5.56 bullpup with like a 10 inch barrel would outperform a PDW in every conceivable way. +--- 57889122 +The P90 is a counter-terrorism police weapon, not a military weapon. The complaints that many people have about it make much more sense when you look at it from that perspective. The height over bore makes a lot more sense when you consider it was designed with gas masks and ballistic face shields in mind. Using a small diameter high velocity round with armor piercing projectile means you can easily hose down an armored threat. Having a cumbersome top loaded 50 round magazine isn't an issue when you have multiple squads going up against a handful of terrorists, meaning you likely won't even need to reload the thing during a mission. The bullpup design, with the weird safety and progressive trigger makes sense when being fired single handed from behind a ballistic shield, etc. +--- 57889300 +>>57889122 +Except it wasn't, it was designed as a weapon for truck drivers to carry that was more effective then a pistol but not a full on battle rifle which was impractical to move around with but was the only other option at the time. The terrible wounding properties of 5.7 against unarmored targets, IE your average terrorist and criminal, have lead to SWAT teams and cool guys absolutely despising it because you have to empty a good chunk of the mag into the first target until he realizes he's dead, which both leaves you with less dead guys per mag and having to spend far more time on one target while his buddy can engage you. +--- 57889332 +>>57888897 +>you're gonna have to shoot the target a whole lot of times unless you get a lucky CNS hit +Hitting CNS is what you're supposed to do, you absolute retard. + +>you need to have 50 bullets because you're gonna have to shoot the target a whole lot of times +That literally increases the chances of hitting CNS, as opposed to 7 round of "stahping powah" + +There's valid argument against 5.7 but that wast a stupid fucking post. +--- 57889369 +>>57884706 (OP) +It's a weapon of war, it's meant to kill your enemy. +--- 57889370 +>>57888975 +They do. +--- 57889378 +>>57889332 +>hurr durr, small difference between pistol calibers is the same as comparing pistol caliber to a rifle + +If you're using a PDW sized weapon, there are very few cases where you can't use a SBR instead where you actually get lethal effects on target far easier and everyone who's actually shot people has said as much. +--- 57889439 +>>57889300 +The idea NATO was going to adopt a new cartridge and class of weapons specifically for vehicle crews and rear echelon troops was always a pipe dream. FN designed a weapon they knew they could sell, but also fit the criteria of the NATO request on the off chance of it getting adopted. +--- 57889453 +>>57886559 +someone say goold? +--- 57889558 +>>57888975 +>>57889370 +You're not wrong. +10.5" barrel chucks M193 55gr at ~2750 fps +SS190 out of the standard 10.35" P90 barrel is nominally 31gr at 2350fps. +Its limited by being straight blowback, but 5.56 also wastes a ton of powder out of so short a barrel. +If you are willing to go to locked, you can get exactly the same performance as 5.56x45 with a smaller, lighter cartridge in the same 10.5" length. That was the intent behind things like 5.56 MARS and 5.56 MINSAS. +--- 57889778 +>>57889370 +>Cutting the barrel down that short, but not removing the bulky, heavy and uncomfortable extended buttpad. +--- 57889822 +>>57884706 (OP) +Goes brbrbrbrbrbr r r +--- 57889890 +>>57884706 (OP) +It’s completely obsolete + +Russian paratroopers are extinct +--- 57890021 +>>57889778 +Ain't my gun. This one's mine. +>>57889558 +Sure, with milsurp ammo. 5.56 has come a very long way for 10-12" barrels in the past decade or two. +--- 57890053 +>>57889890 +>Russian paratroopers are extinct +Yeah i heard they all got pushed out of the back of planes without chutes. +--- 57890181 +>>57889890 +Not true, like 5 to 15 percent survived the initial massacre, and now have been made into frontline troops by Russia and given thermobaric guns, filling their ranks with mobiks. +The VDV lives on as the sideguard for Wagner's meadgrinder. +--- 57890698 +>>57889332 +You know what you don't have to get a CNS hit with? 5.56mm +--- 57890895 +>>57884706 (OP) +Cool looking cook, driver and janny weapon that was memed into special farce by movies and vidyas. +--- 57890937 +>>57884706 (OP) +It's the king of SMGs and the peasant of PDWs. As a pistol caliber, stocked gun, the P90 shines with its high capacity, flat shooting rounds and soft armor penetration. As a PDW, it's outshone short barrel, gas piston ARs. +--- 57890941 +>>57890937 +*outshone by +--- 57890970 +Its fun as fuck even as a semi auto. Allegedly the old ps90s were even more fun, for reasons. +--- 57890973 +>>57890021 +If you want to go into peak performance mode, then forget 5.56mm altogether and get an AK bullpup chambered in 7.62x39mm. The soviet round loses far less energy than 5.56mm when the barrel length is shortened. +--- 57890975 +>>57888897 +Who are we going to believe, the famous case where 5.7 was used on multiple soldiers, or your feelings. +--- 57890981 +>>57890970 +Your post is peculiar because it suggests you've used a P90 but not the PS90. +--- 57891012 +>>57890973 +x95 can be had in 300niggout, which with supers can achieve similar short barrel performance to x39, but with greater magazine capacity. and ofc can also get factory subs, for suppressor use. +--- 57891163 +>>57891012 +>x95 +>suppressor use +I don't think so. +--- 57891317 +>>57891163 +Arent most complaints just from people who slap a can on and make no other adjustments? +A piece of tape or a gasket can stop it from gassing your face. +--- 57891524 +>>57885699 +would do good for clearing mobik filled trenches diff --git a/k/57884836.txt b/k/57884836.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3cc93e725fc9a3aee7254c1aa9167bb90618b92a --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57884836.txt @@ -0,0 +1,233 @@ +----- +--- 57884836 +Do we really need 11 aircraft carriers? +--- 57884851 +>>57884836 (OP) +No, we need 20 +--- 57884853 +>>57884836 (OP) +No, we need 12 +--- 57884856 +>>57884836 (OP) +I fucking hate prime numbers +--- 57884858 +Depends on definition of need. +--- 57884861 +>>57884836 (OP) +more needed +--- 57884863 +>>57884853 +This is the correct answer. The USN actually needs a minimum of 12 carriers to cover operational needs. +--- 57884864 +>>57884836 (OP) +Yes, 3 for each ocean, a few in their maintenance cycle, and 1 or 2 spares. +--- 57884903 +>>57884836 (OP) +With the rise of drones and increased coordination, I'd like to see the US at least explore the idea of distributing their naval aviation wing across several dozen much smaller carriers. It would make naval aviation much less vulnerable to hypersonic ASBMs whether those are still a paper tiger at the moment or not. +--- 57884917 +>>57884836 (OP) +ngl, USS Donald J. Trump looks lit +--- 57884918 +>>57884903 +Smaller carriers are inefficient. They are economical, if that's all you can afford, but they are, per ton of displacement, less capable than larger ones, because machinery and electronics take up roughly the same amount of displacement on a small carrier compared to a larger one. +--- 57884927 +>>57884836 (OP) +Some would argue that there's no point because a carrier strike group could theoretically be impossible to protect from a large enough volley of anti ship missiles. Although a carrier strike group is designed specifically for that scenario so we don't yet know if the defenses are good enough to intercept and destroy a swarm on anti ship missiles. + +If it is possible then everyone needs them and whoever has the most is the most powerful country on earth. If it's not possible to protect them from countermeasures then the question then becomes, what's more expensive? The incredible missile swarm or the carrier strike group? Would depend on how many could be stopped, if it's a silly number necessary to make it through and actually sink it- then a carrier strike group could still make a lot of sense. + +There is also the question of range, obviously with enough nuclear ICBMs you will sink a carrier strike group. Maybe a stealth nuke drone? I'm not sure. Modern warfare is advancing at a rapid pace yet again. The truth is that nobody knows and nobody will know unless we're all dumb enough to start WW3. Assuming we survive long enough to see the results. +--- 57884947 +>>57884918 +I'm not saying they're more efficient, or even as efficient. I'm saying they allow you to avoid having a single-digit number of lynch pins in theater over three quarters of your naval doctrine is built around, and that with modern technologies it's worth considering if the same limitations that lead to their development in the first place still hold true. +--- 57885072 +>>57884947 +You could, theoretically, build dedicated drone carriers. Sort of like that turk one, but without amphibious assault capabilities, so you can fit 50+ drones and not need to play musical chairs with the infantry equipment. But such a drone carrier would only be a force multiplier, sailing alongside a classic fleet carrier, not the center of a surface group. You can't run CAP with drones, and, even if you could, I don't think the military wants the associated liabilities. +--- 57885087 +>>57884836 (OP) +11? We need 21 3 for each of the 7 seas. +--- 57885089 +Frankly, 12 is not enough. 20 is not enough +--- 57885096 +>>57884947 +Why not spend the per-plane savings you get with the large carrier on a destroyer stacked with SM3s? +--- 57885104 +>>57885072 +>You can't run CAP with drones + +Yet, but there is no great technical obstacle to so doing and in nation-state war everything in a kill box is fair game. +--- 57885112 +>>57884927 +But anyway, carriers would still serve a purpose depending on what exactly is necessary to sink them. If one hypersonic wunderwaffe kamikaze stealth nuke drone is all that's necessary then they are completely obsolete. If you need a tremendous amount of effort and volume of fire to sink them then they might still be a powerful tool on the battlefield. + +If your anti ship weapons have to be dangerously close to have a chance then a sortie might stop you. A preemptive strike might stop you. + +Anti ship weapons have to be +A.) Undetectable +or +B.) Ridiculously fast (hypersonics) +or +C.) Intercontinental capable +and +D.) Practically produced in great numbers + +Very difficult technological capabilities to accomplish. You may need just one or all of the above to have a chance at making the carrier fundamentally obsolete. +--- 57885239 +>>57884836 (OP) +Why would we get rid of one? JFK is currently fitting out and will be ready next year. also need 9 assault carriers with 9 America Class on the way and probably more to be ordered. +--- 57885327 +>>57884927 +This is what the F14 was for... intercepting saturation attacks with a mass of phoenix missiles to make it manageable for AEGIS to clean up. +F/A XX better fucking be the Mach 2.8 heavy payload defender of the fleet we all want. + +>>57885112 +They can't see well given the annoying plasma-screen effect and will probably get clocked in boost phase what with all the paranoid ICBM/IRBM detection tech in place. SM2er block4, SM3, SM6, can pretty easily knock out an isolated hypersonic attack. If you've watched "to sink a carrier", it seems like they'd only really be useful as the coup de gras of a very opportune saturation attack. Definitely useful, but not overwhelming. +--- 57885544 +>>57884917 +Too controversial a name; Trump will never be put on a ship in fear of crew morale. Maybe 50 years from now when future zoomers barely know who Trump is. +--- 57885646 +>>57885544 +There's never going to be another ship named after a newer president because logically soon USS Bill Clinton will be up for debate and the House/Senate will utterly shit itself, leading to further debacles if anyone suggests the USS George W Bush or USS Obongo +--- 57885669 +>>57885544 +Well he has to die first too. The military usually doesn't like to name things after living people. +--- 57885720 +>>57885669 +A cursory glance shows Presidents Andrew Jackson, Martin Van Buren, Ulysses S. Grant, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush had ships named after them during their lifetimes +--- 57885751 +>>57885646 +the next one is slated to be named after JFK, then Enterprise, then Doris Miller, then it is TBD. +--- 57885771 +>>57885096 +Because SM-3s can't into hypersonic missiles, probably. How long can we stay ahead of the missile vs missile defense race so we can reliably shoot down AShMs? + +The basic idea is that at some point it's simply too much risk to have a handful of $15 billion dollar carriers that if sunk would massively hurt us naval power for a decade +--- 57885774 +>>57885087 +I think we can skip the Arctic Ocean. +--- 57885812 +>>57885774 +nice try RoboHitler +--- 57886026 +No, we need more. China will be operating from terrestrial airfields, no matter how good our carriers are, they'll be operating at a disadvantage. + +We need more dakka, no matter what anyone says. +--- 57886116 +>>57885646 +I think if the Bush is still in Service when Dubya keels over there is a chance they'll pull what they did with the USS McCain when Senator McCain died. They pulled "This ship is now named for the first all 3 John McCains instead of only the 2 Admirals) and with the carrier they'll state "We're dropping the H. W. from the ship's name so It's now named for both President Bushs" but beyond that I agree that the days of Presidents for ship names is over. +--- 57886613 +>>57884836 (OP) +We need 20 submersible aircraft carrier submarines that launch drone attack craft than piloted craft. Manned aircraft and jumbo aircraft carriers are defunct and outdated already. + +The WW2 Japanese foresaw the future of naval warfare. +--- 57886626 +>>57886613 +--- 57886695 +>>57885720 + +Shit i just réalised carter is still alive +--- 57886800 +The US needs at least 50 aircraft carriers +--- 57886835 +>>57885646 +I'm fine with the USS Clinton if it's shaped like a gigantic floating dick. +--- 57886861 +>>57884836 (OP) + +The libertarian in me says no. Then again i'm not in the CIA and i'm not in the state department. I don't know what goes on in the world but perhaps we do need that many. I would say we don't need the coast guard or the army national guard though. +--- 57886906 +>>57886800 +>50 aircraft carriers +>Each one for each state +>The USS California is ridden with homeless homosexuals shitting on the deck 24/7 +>The USS Ohio is in full anarchy with niggers having mostly peaceful protests across the runway. +>USS Texas carries more crewed artillery howitzers than aircraft and is constantly attempting to have the US gov't acknowledge the ship as its own independent US territory. +--- 57887012 +>>57885646 +>Obongo +His name is reserved for an advanced strike drone. +--- 57887036 +>>57886906 +Well we can't have another USS Texas, not when the real USS Texas is getting refurbished (with VLS cells but you didn't hear that from me) +--- 57887104 +>>57887036 +Imagine the uss texas rolling up and becoming a permanent 300 vls cell site in taiwan, that would scare china shitless. +--- 57887115 +yeah +--- 57887131 +>>57887104 +>in taiwan +>thinking the upgraded USS Texas will stay a USS +Some of you unionfags are alright, keep away from the shoreline tomorrow +--- 57887143 +>>57885771 +The SM-3 was specifically designed to engage hypersonic threats. You may be thinking of the SM-6 (modernized SM-2). +--- 57887187 +The Texas should be brought back but not as a combat ship but more of an ambassador vessel sailing around the world with crew wearing period-authentic uniforms operating everything in its restored original state. Restoring the guns might be too much, if only due to crew safety concerns, but everything else is fine. +--- 57887196 +>>57886861 +>>57884851 +>>57884836 (OP) +We already have 20 carriers +10 Nimitz +1 Ford +7 Wasp +2 America + +We'll likely have 22 at least briefly next year as Kennedy and Bougainville are commissioned +--- 57887234 +>>57884836 (OP) +The US needs those aircraft to force primitive people to accept transgender ass sex +--- 57887245 +>>57887131 +Its all Texas now +--- 57887293 +>>57884836 (OP) +The alternative is social unrest in a draft situation. Depends on your goals. +--- 57887416 +>>57884836 (OP) +How many strokes is the penalty for hitting it into the ocean? +--- 57887430 +>>57887234 +You literally can't stop thinking about transgender ass sex. Complete infatuation. +--- 57887446 +>>57886626 +I quite like this idea. Makes a lot of sense, but a big one would be a very costly loss. +--- 57887602 +No. Carriers are probably just fodder for hypersonic missiles. + +However retarded Chinese nationalists because the US has them, want to have more so they waste money investing in them. + +And so when a war happens they hilariously lose them all when it turns out that they are in the same position as tanks vs javelins and battleships vs dive bombers. +--- 57887984 +>>57884836 (OP) +After looking at other nations' armed forces, I came to the conclusion that US is the only one with pre-determined goals and equipment to achieve them. + +Example: Finland, Norway, Sweden share a goal to defend against possible Russian aggression, but they don't have enough to actually discourage an invasion. They have enough to make it costly. + +US example: US has commitments to Taiwan and also Europe. They calculate how many aircraft carriers are needed with reserve and actually build them in numbers enough to make invasion very unlikely to begin with. + +US example 2, historical: When Russians built something US thought was more advanced than it actually was (Mig-25 for example) during the Cold War, US actually tried to counter it and built better aircraft. No European states do something like this, not during the cold war, not in modern times. +--- 57888082 +>>57884836 (OP) +You're right, we need at least 14. +--- 57888213 +>>57887446 + +Drones can fit inside missile launch tubes. +--- 57888339 +>>57886626 +>1,7 times longer than a jumbo jet +fucking ridiculous how big it got just because of the 3 planes +--- 57888401 +>>57885774 +I don't care if they are carriers or destroyers or fucking ships on the line, we need some more hulls built for the arctic and in the arctic. +--- 57888548 +>>57885771 +The problem is that it requires a massive expansion of personnel needed to field an equivalent amount of naval aviation and a massive expansion of infrastructure and logistics to account for them. In turn you'd also need more ships of other classes to protect and supply them. +--- 57889047 +>>57884836 (OP) +You could fit a cozy par 4 on a carrier +--- 57889671 +>>57886906 +>USS Maine explode again but this time it's the nuclear reactor and it was in port at Sevastopol diff --git a/k/57884986.txt b/k/57884986.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ba11f4ecadbb883a2f98785932b83ba4e9ebe786 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57884986.txt @@ -0,0 +1,291 @@ +----- +--- 57884986 +MOAB or tactical nuke maybe? +--- 57885008 +>>57884986 (OP) +Vid or any other proofs? +--- 57885019 +Source or gtfo +--- 57885030 +>>57884986 (OP) +Probably a minor mine tunnel detonation. If it is true at all, that is. +--- 57885031 +>>57884986 (OP) +What is the tactical advantage of nuking a city after you fought for months to occupy it? +--- 57885033 +>>57884986 (OP) +Well if some anonymous bozo says so +--- 57885050 +>>57885031 +I mean it's already ruined and given the way Russia fixes things... +--- 57885066 +>>57884986 (OP) +It's this +https://twitter.com/jj_talking/status/1648015567931187203 +--- 57885068 +I fucking wish Russia nuked Bakhmut of all places. +But it's fake and gay. +--- 57885101 +>>57885066 +that's ukies mining buildings, pulling out, letting wagner fill up the building and detonating it +--- 57885103 +>>57885066 +Another building filled with mobiks exploded? +--- 57885105 +>>57885066 +munitions dump..? +perhaps they buried a bomb and detonated when Russians occupied the area? +--- 57885111 +I want to get TOPPED by druze beast so badly bros. Why does god call all of his angels to his side so early? +--- 57885116 +>>57885101 +>>57885103 +Based if true +--- 57885131 +>>57884986 (OP) +Wait, Bakhmut is still contested? +--- 57885137 +>>57885131 +Apparently Russia still hasn't taken Bakhmut +--- 57885143 +Huh? I was told this town was taken. 1 month ago. 2 months ago. 3 months ago. 5 months ago. 9 months ago. What's going on? Is it some kind of time loop? I can only think their incompetence is a joke played by God at this point. +--- 57885145 +>>57885131 +It's still within the two-week timelimit. Assuming you use the day length on Venus. +--- 57885150 +>>57885105 +The Ukies tend to throw a bunch of AT mines, MICLICs and other assorted explosives in a house, watch it with a drone and then blow it sky high as soon as a group of vatniks enters. +--- 57885154 +>>57884986 (OP) +old news is old +--- 57885159 +>>57885143 +It's firmly in russian hands, legally speaking. +--- 57885161 +>>57884986 (OP) +>Spriter +lmao +xd +lol +rofl +--- 57885208 +>>57885116 +A couple of the non-convict Wagner guys were complaint about it a bit ago +--- 57885217 +>>57885101 +That's what I do in Arma 3. +--- 57885220 +>>57885208 +Brilliant, that's a great tactic +--- 57885221 +>>57884986 (OP) +alloha ackbar +--- 57885246 +>>57885101 +>>57885105 +holy mother of cope +--- 57885256 +>>57885246 +What happened then? +--- 57885309 +>>57885143 +It's that way for both sides. +For over 12 months Russia's held most of Ukraine and destroyed their army, and Ukraine's destroyed Russia's armies and has them about to collapse. + +It's called propaganda bullshit and both sides are stuffed with it. +--- 57885336 +>>57884986 (OP) +this account posts the most retarded krokodil huffing vatnik cope all day long. +--- 57885341 +>>57885246 +(you) + +https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/12kpgiz/ukrainians_lure_russian_invaders_into_buildings/ +--- 57885351 +>>57885103 +goddamn, almost every time i see her i have to masturbate +--- 57885356 +>>57885246 +>Wagner soldiers literally make videos telling about Ukrainian new tactic where they allow Wagner enter the building, counterattack to force everyone take shelter, then blow it up +>/pol/tard says it's all lies and cope +--- 57885360 +>>57884986 (OP) +Sorry I farted +--- 57885362 +>>57885356 +It’s not even new. Chechens did that in the ‘90s. +--- 57885376 +>>57885246 +Do you even understand what that word means? +--- 57885382 +>>57885362 +considering that German stormtrooper tactics from ww1 are considered "new" by Russian standards, tactic from 90s is like something from future +--- 57885915 +>>57885341 +>reddit +yikes +--- 57885967 +>>57885341 +>https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/12kpgiz/ukrainians_lure_russian_invaders_into_buildings/ +when this video was first posted this building was hundred of metter behind the frontline, I think it's just hohols blowing it up so that the russian can't use it in the future when they make a last stand in the building west of the city +--- 57886005 +>nuke +nah, China forbade it +--- 57886073 +>>57885967 +strange how everything you said directly contradicts words of Wagner soldiers fighting in Bakhmut, let me guess, Wagner turned out to be traitors and pests? +--- 57886105 +Tunnel detonation. +There was a huge one a few days ago. +It worked in Syria. They are very effective but a pain I'm the ass to dig. +--- 57886106 +>>57886073 +ukraine did use these tactics but this specific footage is not the use of this tactic +--- 57886124 +jdam. moab is way bigger. +--- 57886126 +>>57885356 +Maybe it’s a one-off thing, but to do it consistently, you’d need a time machine to find out where they settle in +--- 57886220 +>>57884986 (OP) +Never a MOAB or a nuke. It lookslike eiher a subsurface burst or a WW1 type mined explosion, only with higher brissance explosives than WW1 sappers had available.. + + I would wager that the Ukies lured the Vatniks into a honey-pot, and then touched off the charge to create a nice deep cum-pit. + +They know how the Vatniks LOVE them their cum-pits. +--- 57886239 +>>57885382 + Wait….so Russian tactics of the future will actually be…historical? + + My fucking head hurts. +--- 57886259 +>>57885150 +Isis tactics and a literal warcrime. +--- 57886560 +>>57884986 (OP) +There's like a million things that could cause a mushroom and not be nuclear. Any large enough explosion would do + +It wouldn't be worth the escalation +--- 57887181 +>>57886259 +>a literal warcrime +Can you state which of the international laws of war is being broken by this tactic? +--- 57887239 +>>57884986 (OP) +>Spriter +faggot +--- 57887886 +>>57884986 (OP) +Sorry ziggers, it was a trap... and not the nice kind of trap that the VDV likes so much +https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1648075582821871626 +and the explosion: +https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1648075584658980867 +--- 57888043 +>>57885246 +>https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1648075584658980867 +see +>>57887886 +Nice, let's see vatnigger anon's cope. +--- 57890971 +>>57885154 +i farded XD +--- 57890979 +>>57884986 (OP) +Copium bomb +--- 57891011 +So how is tucker carlson going to spin this in favor of Russia given he's using russian propaganda still. +https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-duped-by-fake-military-documents-on-ukraine-war-shared-by-russian-propagandist/ +--- 57891014 +>>57885066 +Hell, that ain't shit. Rubble looks like a buried charge, but that's not even a block leveler, let alone "muh powerful blow". Fucking Russians pretending every shot they fire is some grand strategic coup. +--- 57891028 +>>57891011 +I wish the fucking Committee for In American Activities was still around to round up these fucking traitors. +--- 57891165 +Mmm roasted piggies)) +--- 57891176 +>>57891028 +I'm pretty sure the Republicans re-created that committee again, but just to attack their political enemies and not put America's interests first. +--- 57891182 +>>57891011 +Tucker Carlson is controlled opposition. Exists to herd dissenters into a retarded cattle pen both to make them fat and useless, and for the metaphorical slaughter. +--- 57891189 +>>57891011 +>>57891028 +>Thread about big boom +>Suddenly TUCKER TUCKER DRUMPF posts + +Very organic posts next time space it out a little more or else you make it obvious you are discordfags + +Thanks in advance! +--- 57891192 +>>57891028 +easy there bugman. hate is bad remember? +--- 57891198 +>>57891189 +Calm down vatnik +--- 57891212 +>>57891198 +I didn't need the confirmation I was right, but thanks anyways! +--- 57891219 +>>57886105 +literally medieval tactics +--- 57891221 +>>57891212 +>The Vatnik is seething +You're welcome +--- 57891227 +>>57891221 +You already admitted I was right. You can stop now. +--- 57891228 +>>57886259 +Unbelievable, I invaded someone's home and started murdering civilians, now they've exploded me, how can this be happening! Worse than the Americans lol +--- 57891238 +>>57886105 +Yeah but those tunnels used to serve a different purpose. + +I'll bet Wagner/VDV tried to seize the Goblin tunnels. The goblins simply responded the way they always do if someone tries to infiltrate horde infrastructure. +--- 57891242 +>>57891227 +>The Vantik is still infuriated that he was exposed +How does it feel that you still haven't taken Bakhmut and your 5th columnist propagandist has exposed himself again? +--- 57891264 +>>57891242 +>No no I exposed you reverse uno I got you + +How sad. Ask your buds on discord for a better script. +--- 57891267 +What Great Person did the Ukes use for that culture bomb? +--- 57891272 +>>57891011 +>Ukrainian pimp +Holy shit, fox news is completely off the fucking rails now. They've gone full OAN +--- 57891292 +>>57891264 +>The Vatnik is still trying to defend Tucker Carlson +LOL +--- 57891295 +>>57891272 +That would imply Fox News was ever on the rails. They've been shilling for the Russians for years. +--- 57891316 +>>57891295 +I mean sure, I just more meant their tag lines and what they consider newsworthy talking points. Every screen shot I see looks like it was ripped from an Alex jones podcast +--- 57891331 +>>57884986 (OP) +that was IED'ed building occupied by fresh mobik vatnik votka pidor division +--- 57891371 +>>57884986 (OP) +your mother dealt me a powerful blow, my "mushroom" was visible even in niggertopia +--- 57891376 +>>57891267 +Probably that one awp god from Counter Strike. Blanking on his name atm +--- 57891393 +>>57886126 +>to find out where they settle in +Are you retarded? They will settle in a building that you leave. +--- 57891506 +>>57891219 +The tunnel+mine tactic is peak WW1. +--- 57891690 +>>57891506 +WW1 = worlds largest medieval/early modern siege LARP diff --git a/k/57885012.txt b/k/57885012.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f76f6869589396675b93eec683149ebbce128535 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57885012.txt @@ -0,0 +1,25 @@ +----- +--- 57885012 +Does anyone have the videos of ugrainian snipers using E-bikes against rushians? +--- 57885657 +>>57885012 (OP) +>never post an image more interesting than your topic +--- 57885846 +Would +--- 57885867 +bbw cat +--- 57885927 +>>57885012 (OP) +segso +--- 57886183 +>>57885012 (OP) +She looks like she goes to the range with human men. +--- 57887630 +>>57885657 +No +--- 57887777 +>>57885012 (OP) +sexo el gato +--- 57888720 +>>57885012 (OP) +Thank you for continuing to post this image of weedcat diff --git a/k/57885204.txt b/k/57885204.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..850c96d32c5976f17f5523a9137deae2ad20e571 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57885204.txt @@ -0,0 +1,233 @@ +----- +--- 57885204 +Imagine if America invaded Mexico with Abrams and picrel, ran out of the Abrams a few months in and then started using M48 Pattons. Imagine how humiliating that would be. +--- 57885224 +>>57885204 (OP) +Imagine if America lost a war against dirt-poor rice farmers armed with Mosins, twice +--- 57885252 +>>57885224 +The funniest part about people saying that America would lose to Russia because muh Afghanistan/muh Vietnam is that Russia and China lost to those exact same enemies. +--- 57885292 +>>57885252 +>The funniest part about people saying that America would lose to Russia +Never said such thing, rather I'm saying that countries losing wars against seemingly inferior opponents is nothing new, and every country that has a long list of wars, has a couple of those stories to tell +--- 57885330 +>>57885292 +Wasn't necessarily saying you were. Comparing Ukraine to any modern US war other than Vietnam is dishonest anyway, the United States walked all over and dominated the conventional Iraqi and Afghan militaries. The issue is that insane religious zealots who are used to living in abject poverty and squalor never give up. +--- 57885331 +>>57885204 (OP) +It certainly would be embarassing. If you are attempting to allude to the ongoing Special Military Operation in ukraine though, it makes your hypothetical scenario even more embarassing espescially since all current Russian tanks participating in combat are more modern than the M48. +--- 57885445 +>>57885252 +What battles did the US military lose in those 2 wars? +--- 57885449 +>>57885331 +kek +explain why you're wiping the dust off your T-54s +--- 57885457 +>>57885445 +Winning every buttle doesnt mean winning guaranteed, this is why russia is winning in ukraine +--- 57885494 +>>57885457 +>russia +>winning +>in ukraine +HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA +Maybe you'll get a pyrrhic victory in a year or two. +--- 57885508 +>>57885457 +Winning what? +--- 57885526 +>>57885457 +Yes losing battles is actually key to victory, as per trudeau doctrine. +--- 57885535 +>>57885204 (OP) +Imagine if Mexico annexed a quarter of US soil and killed thousands of Americans and the US government not only didn't fight back, it used all legal and military resources to destroy any American who wanted to fight back +--- 57885551 +>>57885526 +>>57885508 +Nono, this is how it works. +>Russia wins = victory +>Russia loses = victory +>Russia retreats = victory +>Russia is actively fighting = victory +>Russia doesn't do anything = victory +>Russia collapses = victory +>Moscow occupied = victory +>Nuclear destruction of Russia= victory +--- 57885705 +>>57885445 +1. Winning battles =/= winning wars +2. Please explain to me how FSB Ripcord was a triumphant american success. Just as a start, because it's about the first thing that came to my mind. +--- 57885717 +>>57885705 +Just for clarification: Fuck Putin, Russia is losing in Ukraine and deserves to lose harder. +--- 57885726 +>>57885330 +It's almost like your "conventional military" ain't shit +--- 57885744 +>>57885717 +NAFO is gay and so are you. +--- 57885820 +>>57885744 +>vatniggers are still posting this +At least the tank video actually had you guys getting kills +--- 57886023 +>>57885820 +Yes, I am Vladimir from Moscow, here to tell you that you'll never be a real woman. +--- 57887294 +>>57885457 +Russia is in a stalemate +--- 57887591 +>>57885252 +Vietchads and Alphagans stay winning. +--- 57887628 +>>57885252 +Yeah I never understood how this is supposed to be a slam dunk, it's not like the people dunking on us won when we didn't +--- 57887786 +>>57885204 (OP) +That is an M60. An M48 is a different vehicle. But honestly, supplementing 5000 Abrams with 5000 older tanks can be effective. +--- 57887790 +>>57887591 +>>57885224 +>BUBUBBUT MUH VIETNAM AND AFGHANISTAN +Please point in a map which US state shares an unguarded border with these two, thanks. +--- 57887813 +>>57885224 +Anon, Afghans were opium farmers. +--- 57887918 +>>57887790 +Anon I don't care about Ukraine, I just think it's funny these countries BTFO'd the US, USSR, and the PRC among others. +--- 57889126 +>>57885224 +>Imagine if America lost a war against dirt-poor rice farmers armed with Mosins, twice +if you are talking about vietnam, the north Vietnamese army were regular units armed with T-55s, SAM, and the then-modern sagger missile +theres a reason that there are several jet aces in the vietnam war, F4 phantoms werent dogfighting with wright flyers + +the actual rice farmers unironically were defeated +after the tet offensive, the VC were destroyed as a fighting force and had to be filled in with NVA regular units, the above mentioned regulars +--- 57889170 +>>57887918 +Losing an entire generation of men isn't really winning. +--- 57889200 +>>57885744 +>>57886023 +>neing this obsessed +Trannies live in your walls. +--- 57889235 +>>57885204 (OP) +The Abrams can't sweep roadside ditches ,The M48 can and therefore is the superior tank +--- 57889254 +>>57889235 +>The Abrams can't sweep roadside ditches +the RWS always looked like it could depress further than the commander turret on the M48 and M60 +but this is such a small niche role, i cant imagine that it would be relevant in discussing which tank is better +--- 57889372 +>>57887918 +>I don't care about Ukraine +They always say this when they show up to specifically shit talk the west +--- 57889397 +>>57889200 +Well, not for long if left alone +--- 57889638 +>>57885726 +Anon, I genuinely want you to guess what would happen if you took the Taliban and the US armed forces and put them on a completely flat and neutral battle ground with no hills and places to hide. +--- 57889819 +>>57885204 (OP) +Imagine dese nuts on yo face bitch nigga. +--- 57889911 +>>57885224 +>>57885204 (OP) + + +This COPE lol. + +I truly love it. + +You know its not the same thing but its the closest thing your gonna get to America getting 'btfo'. + +Chinks actually got humiliatingly slaughtered in Vietnam so did the Soviets in Afghanistan whereas the US did most of the slaughtering on both wars. +--- 57889918 +>>57885204 (OP) +>Imagine if America invaded Mexico +But literally the opposite is happening in reality you 58% Mutt +--- 57889934 +>>57885224 +Won the invasion bb +--- 57889943 +>>57889918 +>If I keep saying it over and over again in every thread I'll eventually be right!!!!!! +--- 57889954 +>>57885457 +>this is why russia is winning in ukraine +I thought Russia doesn’t lose battles what are you saying comrade? +--- 57889964 +>>57889911 +>lose a guerilla war +>w-well they lost in open battle +you're shitposting i assume +--- 57889975 +>>57889918 + +Isn't Russia actually demographically gone by 2050 and the Chinks soon to follow because of incredibly stupid policies? + +Something something about kettle black pottery or something... +--- 57889990 +>>57889943 +>Redditor tier comebacj +You will never be a woman, America will win a war or be a white country ever again. +--- 57889993 +>>57885204 (OP) + +>be US Army tanker +>climb in M4A3E2023 Sherman tank +>all of the upgrades packages have their instructions written in fucking Hebrew +--- 57890000 +>>57889911 +Chink sluts are regularly defeated by white cock. +--- 57890002 +>>57889964 + +Nah just not a damn think you can do about it. +--- 57890049 +>>57889993 +I will say this about the kikes, if nothing else they did have some pretty creative ways of making use of obsolete/captured equipment. +--- 57890094 +>>57889993 +An upgrade package comparable to the M51 would actually be M4A7 105 HVSS +Since it has an entirely new engine not seen on As 1-6s +--- 57890096 +>>57890049 +They really, really don't like spending money. They would rather fight T-62s in Shermans that rolled off the Detroit assembly line in 1944 than buy a new fucking tank because it saves money. +--- 57890098 +>>57885204 (OP) +I know OP, Thats why we are letting them all in for free so they eat the GMO foods and die young after paying their taxes and fees and rent!! +--- 57890108 +>>57885204 (OP) +>a few months +hey hey whoa whoa, Russia made it a full year before the T-54's started rolling onto the battlefield. +--- 57890234 +>>57890096 +by yom kippur, when they first faced the T-62, the M51s had been mostly assigned to the reserve brigade where they acted in support of more modern tanks rather than as independent units +the main mobile force was comprised of M48s, cents, and M60s with varying levels of modernization +they werent exactly happy with having WW2 relics, but they had to use whatever they could get their hands on +which is also why they used T-62s with 105mm guns installed, after capturing several in combat +--- 57890302 +>>57890234 + +Any instances of Shermans successfully killing Soviet MBTs? +--- 57890322 +>>57885204 (OP) +Whats funny is America is being invaded by Mexico right now and will be replaced without a fight +--- 57890333 +>>57890302 +the M51s definitely killed several T-55s +theres no confirmed T-62 kills, though its not outside the realm of possibility that they did so +--- 57890371 +>>57890322 +>Whats funny is America is being invaded by Mexico right now and will be replaced without a fight + +America is where a Mexican goes when he no longer wishes to be Mexican. Much as Ukraine is where a Russian goes if he no longer wishes to be Russian. +--- 57890478 +>>57885457 +>russia is winning diff --git a/k/57885432.txt b/k/57885432.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6aa858d9f5867c461ea034ec7d25715791c3dc1e --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57885432.txt @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +----- +--- 57885432 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It2qo4JMxOQ&list=PLW09lBqIqZEZS8mJf2DYZvPfR7A7Wt47P [Embed] + +The F14 existed to fly REALLY FAST towards a wave of Soviet bombers dropping an overwhelming wave of ASMs, intercepting the bombers if possible or if not, culling the ASMs until they were safely manageable by AEGIS. + +Since we switched to the F/A 18, we've lost a good chunk of that capability, in exchange for better multirole and power projection type capabilities. +Now the Navy is saying F/A XX exists... to replace the Hornet? The fuck? Isn't that what the F35C is for? Don't we need a heavy payload Mach 2.8 defender of the fleet to go out and cull the overwhelming wave of missiles so AEGIS sm2+/sm3/sm6 can deal with the inevitable hypersonic strikes without being bothered/distracted? + +We need a hero, F/A XX better replace the gaping hole in the Navy left by the Tomcat, the Hornet's role can and should be "fulfilled" by the lightning. + +Thoughts? Am I retarded? +--- 57885529 +>>57885432 (OP) +I can't wait to watch NGAD, F/A-XX and F-35 not be used against peer states and instead rape to death shitty thirdies and cavemen +--- 57885560 +>>57885432 (OP) +>Isn't that what the F35C is for +F-35C is replacing legacy Hornets. Growlers and Super Hornets are staying. +I'd also argue that the threat the Tomcat was meant for has greatly diminished since the Cold War, and that better modern missiles and radar help mitigate the Super Hornet's tradeoffs in the air defense role. +I'd guess that NGAD/F/A-XX will deliver by the time that the high speed interceptor role becomes relevant again, so I don't really consider it a fatal flaw in our naval aviation. +--- 57885764 +>>57885432 (OP) +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhB_q5ZTe-A [Embed] +This might answer your question. Your concerns are shared by many. The F-35 should be the "low" of the low-high mix. I remember hearing/reading that somewhere but can't remember where. +--- 57885945 +>>57885560 +>better modern missiles and radar help mitigate the Super Hornet's tradeoffs in the air defense role. +That goes both ways though, ASMs are better too... +>'d guess that NGAD/F/A-XX will deliver by the time that the high speed interceptor role becomes relevant again, so I don't really consider it a fatal flaw in our naval aviation. +That's what I'm hoping, the Russians seem to think so with their classic "probably vaporware but maybe legit" PAK DP + +>>57885764 +Based Ward Carroll Enthusiast. Got to have a long chat with a RIO I met on a vacation and he didn't disagree. What are the odds I get to meet one at random right? +--- 57887396 +>>57885560 + +But anon, speed is still incredibly important for a fleet interceptor. You need the fastest acceleration and top speed possible to be able to intercept hostile incoming threats before they're able to launch munitions at the fleet. The F-14 was the literal king at that with its insane climb rate and top speed. Before the AIM-120D came into the field, and after the F-14 was retired I'd say our fleets were on incredibly thin ice with regards to ability to intercept a possible threat. We took a big risk in assuming Russia wouldn't do anything and underestimated China's growth. + +I understand how maintenance heavy and expensive the F-14 was, but shouldn't you have the very best of the best to defend your countries literally most important asset: the carrier strike group? Why didn't we try and develop a new interceptor solely for the Navy that was capable of Mach 2+ top speed, able to climb comparatively to the F-14 while still under a full missile load, and could sling the longest range missiles possible? The F-35 is still nowhere near as valuable at the fleet defense role as the F-14, at least until the AIM-260 becomes fully available, and even then the F-35 will still be much slower than the F-14. + +Disclaimer: I am NOT saying we should have kept the F-14, but that we should have developed a replacement solely for its role alongside the F-35 with just how important it is to defend our carriers. +--- 57887928 +>>57887396 +>>57887396 +>Faster than the F-14 or F-15 despite being 20 years earlier. +Bring back the Starfighter. Safety records are for pussies. +--- 57887954 +>>57887928 + +I don't think you can put a Starfighter on a carrier though anon. I also don't think you can slap an AIM-120 on it so... +--- 57888017 +>>57887954 +Not with that attitude. +--- 57888428 +>>57887396 +Don't they run way more air patrols these days and therefore assume they already have assets out their and ready to interdict threats? +--- 57888568 +>>57888428 + +Well sure, there is always a combat air patrol up and running around the carrier that consists of a pair of F-18's. But if you need to scramble all your fighters at once when you suddenly detect an incoming ball of Russian anti-ship armed jets, you would probably want the fastest jets with the longest-range missiles to avoid giving them any chance of getting into range. + +Again, yeah, the F-14 would be completely garbage by now and this isn't really about the F-14. I'm just complaining that our military didn't fund a fleet interceptor to replace the F-14 and just assumed that Russia and China wouldn't attack us before we could fully develop a missile like the AIM-260. It just seems extremely foolish from a military that all but has a blank check (yes I know the end of the Cold War fucked up a lot of budgets) to not be willing to spend the extra $$$$ to keep your most important asset, the carrier, as safe as possible. +--- 57888981 +>>57888568 +They were planning a naval version of the F-22 back in the 00s but that fell through mostly because the swing wings fucked up the radar cross section. +--- 57889082 +>>57888981 + +I don't really understand why stealth would even be prioritized for a fleet interceptor. A true fleet interceptor would need to be large, fast, powerful and carry larger than usual munitions that can be launched further. I'm not saying the Navy shouldn't have stealth, but that they should really only have two types of jets: Stealth multi-roles & fast, powerful interceptors. Stealth jets, ie F-35's, are able to get in close to the enemy and can guide long-range missiles launched by the interceptors into the enemy jets. + +Basically, exactly like what the F-14 was supposed to do: take off, climb to altitude, launch 4 Phoenix's (or 6 if they know for absolute certain they're going to be launching everything), stealth jet guides missiles in with AWAC's providing overall awareness, and bada bing bada boom. It seems really silly to trust the role of intercepting a potential horde of incoming Chinese spam jets with the F-35 that can only hold 4 AMRAAM's in its stealth configuration. + +Fuck me though, nothing gets me harder imagining an updated F-14 platform potentially being used into the 200X's, with an updated radar, modern electronics, a newer AIM-54, enhanced engines... fucking Navy and their multi-roles man, took my baby from me without at the very least giving me a new one. Instead they gave me a retarded black baby and told me it's just as good as my former baby. +--- 57889472 +>>57887396 +Modern radar is better, so threats like heavy bombers will be detected further out because they can't have significant stealth. The US is also the only country to make stealth bombers, so they don't have to worry about them as a threat. A massive wave of stealthy strike craft might be a small concern, but I don't think anyone has significant AShMs that are launched from such a small platform, especially because of the size of the warhead needed to actually do appreciable damage to a super carrier. diff --git a/k/57885489.txt b/k/57885489.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b8de7a8dccedeb051859026a5539e79dbb82083d --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57885489.txt @@ -0,0 +1,151 @@ +----- +--- 57885489 +Alright anons +>spring 1989 +>due to political shit that doesn't matter WW3 breaks out in europe between the USSR and NATO, USSR is the instigator of combat +>USSR aims to annex as much NATO territory as is possible +>both sides want to avoid a nuclear conflict AT FIRST but will resort to nukes if they deem it necessary +>War remains conventional at the outset +>USSR begins an invasion of western europe +How do you think this would have played out anons? Where would the USSR have attacked, where would major battles have been, what would conflict have looked like based on both sides' doctrines and abilities? + +Assume the states have the exact same equipment, bases, doctrines, etc that they would have had at the time + +I've always wondered what a conventional war between NATO and the USSR would have been like given just how much planning they did for it, planning that never got to be used. +--- 57885503 +USSR+East Germans make some initial gains into West Germany before getting slowed down and eventually routed by entirely superior NATO forces, after NATO recovers from the initial push and counter attacks +--- 57885506 +Wasn't the nato doctrine to use tactical nukes at the onset of armed conflict against railheads, troops formations, and lines of communication? +--- 57885509 +>>57885489 (OP) +Read this. +--- 57885515 +>>57885503 +>tfw you will never see A-10's strafing hordes of t-72s in the fulda gap whilst bradleys and abrams blast their way across the plains of northern europe +--- 57885534 +>>57885489 (OP) +>>57885509 +Or this if you really require a realistic idea of what could happen in the specific scenario you posted. +--- 57885599 +>>57885489 (OP) +My dad was in the NVA (army of the GDR) during his conscription by the time the wall fell. So 2 things: + +1. East German conscripts did NOT want to fight their fellow Germans +2. Despite this the East German army was considered the most effective and "motivated" of the Warsaw pact. Which should tell you a lot about the moral of the rest of the Pact. +3. The Russians then already sold off ammo and fuel for cigs and food. +4. The security apparatus of the Eastern Bloc by this point lived in a complete fantasy world. The people figured out what to say to not be suspected. The KGB and Stasi had no clue how HUGE the discontent with their governments actually was. + +Whatever revolutions occurred in the Warsaw pact were already simmering by then. So instead of peaceful revolutions you'd now have full descends into Civil War due to the Warsaw Pact's citizens unwillingness to fight for the Russians. The USSR would be pretty much instantly forced to fight a war against their own Warsaw Pact. At best the rest of the pact would pull a Belarus and just watch from the sidelines only offering their countries as staging grounds but not actually send any soldiers. A complete mutiny of the East German army and turning coat to their brethren from the Bundeswehr would have been fairly likely. + +And seeing how modern Russia can't even properly supply an invading army a few hundred miles into enemy territory, this would be even worse by a HUGE margin. Russia would not be able to move past central Germany. They'd likely have to retreat soon as Guerilla Warfare in Poland and East Germany would CRIPPLE their supply lines. +--- 57885621 +>>57885599 +Well it started with 2 things then became 4, dangit. + +But yeah, late 80s was far too late, peeps in the Eastern Bloc long figured out they lived in a tyrannical dictatorship that brough poverty not wealth. +--- 57885627 +>>57885599 +I'm rock hard anon, keep going. What happens next? +--- 57885639 +>>57885599 +What would the conflict have looked like in a stronger time for the USSR, let's say maybe the early 80s or late 70s? +--- 57885689 +>>57885489 (OP) +The same Soviet Union that, in hindsight, was on the verge of collapse? They might get as far as France before they get their shit entirely pushed in and resort to nukes when NATO is in sight of Moscow. +By the 80s, it was over for the USSR. It might've gone either way during the 60s and 70s +--- 57886000 +>>57885639 +That's a much more interesting question IMO. If it's before or right after the US pulled out of Vietnam, public support would have been at an all-time low. In this case, I think it takes the US long enough to mobilize that the USSR effectively takes over Europe, minus possibly the UK. +At this point, the wars become centered around Africa, the UK, China, and Latin America for use as a staging ground to launch an invasion/counterinvasion into the enemy's territory. Both sides are stuck in forever proxy wars but the USSR now has enough resources and farmland at their disposal to delay the collapse that happened to them in our time-line. The US had the capability to conquer most of the western hemisphere and put any communists to the sword, but they wouldn't for various ethical and political reasons. I doubt that they could've done that and effectively aid the UK at the same time. +China could take this opportunity to attack the USSR from the south if they were so inclined but they're kind of a wildcard +>if this takes place during the 60s +The US is in a mini war economy at this point already with Vietnam and the public would be much more supportive of defending our European allies. +On the flip side though, Chinese-Soviet relations were much better during this time and idk if NATO had enough bullets for all of them +--- 57886159 +>>57885489 (OP) +>Soviets push into West Germany +>NATO deploys tactical nukes +>Soviets chimp out over NATO bombing itself and fucking triggers MAD +If it stays conventional or if only tactical nukes are used sparingly, NATO absolutely thrashes the Warsaw Pact by 1989. +--- 57886420 +>>57885489 (OP) +Give this a read, anon +--- 57886599 +>>57885509 +Red Storm Rising's Soviet power politics and naval combat is kino of unmatched proportions. Alekseyev's attack on Alfeld was some of the best chapters I've ever read in a book. I really enjoy how Tom Clancy is a huge submarine nerd along with having an incredibly good knowledge in naval combat, so the navy part is never left out. There is a kino series on youtube recreating some of the aerial battles in DCS, you should check it out. +youtube.com/watch?v=4irbMNQc8As [Embed] +--- 57886623 +Shit like this makes me realize what a historical anomaly it is that there have been no intra-Western or intra-super power wars since 1945. +--- 57886635 +>>57885506 +Eh it really depends on the time it starts. The USSR never wanted nuclear weapons to be used in any capacity, as there is no point in conquering Germany if its going to be turned into a moonscape, and NATO dropped the idea that a nuclear escalation could be controlled by 1983. From 1979-1983 NATO forces did extensive wargaming involving nuclear, biological and chemcical weapons, simulating every NATO unit in Europe fighting with the USSR. They realised by 1983 that there is no situation where a nuclear escalation could be controlled, and ditched the doctrine entirely. +--- 57886831 +>>57885489 (OP) +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBO-11z7WWA&ab_channel=zvallid [Embed] + +I Actually believe that this time line might increase the post war sympathy towards the Nazi government significantly. Many of the german Generals and Nazi officials who survived the war had given a spin the entire 2nd world war onto a campaign that mainly focused on protecting europe from the communists, and would excuse their numerous Invasions of other countries as necessary to secrere ressourcest and to unite europe to fight the true enemy. + +They already tried to spin the narrative into this direction in reality, but with the big war actually happening, there might well be a stronger undercurrent of socities holding the sentiment that they fought the wrong guys. +--- 57887010 +>US has B-2's and F-117's in the air before hostilities truly break out +>US liberally tomahawks every known Soviet base in Eastern Europe while being untouchable +>F-15's obliterate the Soviet Air Force because Soviets had shit planes and shit training +>By this point (5 days in) the largest conventional army known to man is sweeping across East Germany, Czechoslovakia, and Poland +>Soviet tanks with shit optics are outranged and outgunned by NATO tanks with thermals, NV, and 120mm guns +>The "Great Soviet horde" of tanks does happen because they aren't all rust buckets yet, but they're obliterated due to lack of air support and NATO tanks just being better +>Soviets beging entrenching themselves, we see 240p combat footage of A-10's and F-15's precision striking Russian trenches +>Soviets panic, decide to launch nukes, but surprise: %90 of them don't work because they haven't been maintenanced properly (no one ever expected to use them, so they stole parts from them and stole maintenance funds). +>The only functional bombs they have are Air delivered bombs, which can't be delivered due to American Air Superiority +>They scramble to repair ICBM's in the far East, NATO gets wind and preemptively nuclear strikes evrry known military base in Russia (and a few cities for good measure) +>Overwhelming NATO victory after a month of fighting, Soviets are no more. +--- 57887199 +>>57885489 (OP) +Pointless timeline. The soviets were already finished in 89. Even the Russians had enough. +--- 57887420 +>>57885489 (OP) +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpicB7YI3B8 [Embed] +Here, old German mock documentary about the cold war turning hot late. +Gotta use subtitles though. But was quite interesting. +--- 57887944 +OP here, going to schleep, please keep this thread alive because it's interesting +--- 57888058 +>>57885509 +Kino book, I actually lost sleep over the course of a few days because I just couldn't stop reading +--- 57888373 +>>57887010 +B2 didn’t enter service until 1997 and only had its first flight in July of 1989 so I doubt that it would be used. F117 would definitely be wrecking the Soviet air defense systems though +--- 57891132 +>>57885489 (OP) +>Boring +>Ass +>Scenario +It's been done a few million times OP, with every possible variation of 'USSR INVADES LE WEST' being run into the ground and then some. +>Sino-Soviet tensions escalate to the point where the CCP tries to secure NATO aid for their invasion of Eastern USSR +>Soviet subversion attempts work too well around the world and all of NATO is suddenly dealing with a few dozen different radical/separatist groups on the home front (who are all getting weapons, training, and supplies from Moscow) +>Treaties and deterrence make conflict less and less likely - leading to the US, USSR, CCP, and EU focusing as much as they can on space exploration, and all kinds of under the table clandestine shit happening in the new lunar and orbital colonies and the supply lines up to them, with 1970's levels of space tech +>All of the various (retarded) weapons, vehicles, and gear that was proposed and rejected actually works exactly as well as it was supposed to, and both sides commit to proxy wars across Africa, Asia, and South America with their new kit +--- 57891162 +>>57885489 (OP) +>a young and upcoming KGB agent known as Putin rises through the ranks +>the full might of the USSR is behind him by 1992 +>by 1996 every banana plantation is under soviet control +>they largely stop there for some reason, except for the VDV, which he drops in random spots globally with no support +>the west is baffled but lives with it +--- 57891171 +>>57885639 +>>57886000 +USSR in the 70s would have absolutely crushed the West. In many cases, they had weapons that were superior on a 1:1 basis, the West had no will to fight, and the Soviet system hadn't started to crack yet. By the mid 80s it had reversed. + +The Warsaw Pact probably would've won in the 60s too. Our leaders were soft and a Russian blitzkrieg would have been unstoppable with the token forces the West had. +--- 57891290 +>>57891132 +>>All of the various (retarded) weapons, vehicles, and gear that was proposed and rejected actually works exactly as well as it was supposed to, and both sides commit to proxy wars across Africa, Asia, and South America with their new kit +this is pure soul. I want the M60A2 and MBT-70 armored brigade +--- 57891629 +>>57891290 +It gets better than that +>Infantry platoon +>Armed with SPIWs +>and gyrojet LMGs & GPMGs +>Supported by helicopter mounted howitzers +>and light vehicle mounted indirectly fired, observer guided, Malkaras (yes, I know, but they were working on that back in the 60's, and a 26kg/57lb HESH warhead is a 26kg/57lb HESH warhead) diff --git a/k/57885587.txt b/k/57885587.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d23baa3d877240a3635635a6eb0f72597246c48e --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57885587.txt @@ -0,0 +1,198 @@ +----- +--- 57885587 +What's the ugliest gun modification, and why is it extra long magazine tubes on shotguns? +--- 57885597 +>>57885587 (OP) +>Black Shotgun +>Extra long tube +--- 57885623 +>>57885587 (OP) +>ugliest gun modification +Changing anything to full auto. +--- 57885664 +>>57885587 (OP) +As a lover of tactical shotguns I’d say this is it. +--- 57885780 +>>57885587 (OP) +I mean.... there are some absolutely butt fuckin ugly bullpup conversion mods out there... +--- 57885800 +I really hate pistols without trigger guards. Pants on head retarded +--- 57885814 +>>57885597 +Stop watching goyslop pop culture retard. +--- 57885830 +For me it's weirdos who go for extra tall sight mounts. +--- 57885907 +>>57885587 (OP) +3D printer fags unironically make some of the most cursed shit for some reason. +--- 57885989 +>>57885587 (OP) +3 gun gamer shotgun mods really take the cake. The open rifles and pistols people build usually manage to stay grounded enough that you could still believably use them for non competition tasks (although with a different holster with more retention for the pistols), but the nonsensical gamer shotguns people build are worse for basically everything you might want to do with a shotgun outside of a mass shooting. +--- 57886047 +>>57885989 +Gee Bill, how come your mom lets you have 2 muzzle brakes? +--- 57886131 +>>57885989 +Can you even shoot anything besides slugs with that kind of tube? Wouldn't the shot from any regular load damage it? Genuine question. +--- 57886158 +>>57885907 +Ugly as fuck, but if it works, any gun is better than no gun as they say. +--- 57886178 +>>57886131 +The shot doesn't spread out fast enough to hit the tube. +--- 57886199 +>>57885907 +That’s actually pretty fuckin neat. +--- 57886214 +>>57886131 +Shot does not spread out ad much as movies and video games would have you believe. At least not at the distances those guys are using those guns at. +--- 57886228 +>>57885989 +>3 gun +What a meme of a fucking sport +It's alright if you're not taking it too seruously and understand that in any real gunfight, 10v1 is a retarded idea, but too many folks think they're tactical john wick badasses who totally would have been seal team 6 +--- 57886230 +>>57885587 (OP) +I fail to understand this. +--- 57886256 +>>57886230 +B-but I like to shoot cardboard silhouettes at night three times a year! +--- 57886709 +>>57885587 (OP) +>manlet shooting regular sized shotgun +--- 57886754 +>>57886230 +>tall riser to make aiming with nightvision easier +>dot and laser mounted to the same mount so they share a zero +>raised laser means you can c-clamp without worrying about obscuring the laser +--- 57887552 +>>57886754 +Sensible, but still looks goofy. +--- 57887961 +>>57885814 +BBC posting is a lot less annoying when you realize the people posting it aren't trolls, but are genuine porn addicts that don't think about anything else +--- 57888064 +>>57887552 +It’s crazy it’s almost like the units in the US that see the most combat care more about what’s practical and not what looks goofy +--- 57888094 +>>57887961 +To be honest I don't mind them because then I get to tell them that statistically speaking niggers in fact have slightly smaller dicks on average and the entire thing was originally a joke/propaganda tale from the british empire in reference the famous greeks vs centaurs dinner brawl, ie niggers are stupid and reckless because all the blood in their brains rushes to their dicks. +--- 57888130 +>>57888094 +Whatever you need to tell yourself to get out of bed in the morning :) +--- 57888407 +>>57885907 +Since it works, would it get Saint JMB's approval or would we be able to power the world from all the energy generated by the grave spinning? +--- 57888429 +>>57885623 +Full auto is useful for light machine guns and for controlled burst fire. +--- 57888523 +>>57885907 +If the bore axis was dropped a bit they could be on to something. +--- 57888832 +>>57888523 +I'm still waiting for the day someone gives the MTR-8 its due as a sci-fi revolver. +--- 57888964 +>>57885830 +The Virgin Cheekweld vs The Chad Stand-on-the-buttstock. +--- 57889874 +>>57885587 (OP) +The comically big 12 gauge drums +I still want one but they look retarded +--- 57889889 +>>57885800 +A Glock without a trigger guard sounds someone unsafe +--- 57889955 +>>57885814 +niggertrigger +--- 57890398 +>>57885830 +This. I used to hate those weird free-float tube shrouds/handguards on ar15s years ago but this is worse. Take me back to 2013/14 when those were popular. It's just overdone and the heights are getting retarded. +--- 57890473 +>>57885587 (OP) +Rails of any kind. +--- 57890764 +>>57890473 +I would normally agree but there's some guns that I really like rails on even if they're not being used. Especially Weaver or weaver-like rails instead of picatinny. +--- 57890774 +>>57885587 (OP) +--- 57890781 +>>57885587 (OP) +>>57890774 +--- 57890801 +>>57890473 +Especially this one, very tasteful IMO and something about the 656 is just cool. Maybe it's "grass is greener" but damn I wish there were more than just a couple repros for this model. +--- 57890816 +>>57890473 +From Arfcom +--- 57890838 +>>57885587 (OP) +Does anyone have the video of the competition shotgun with the detachable tube magazine? I'm not taking about the speed loaders used from the rear. This was an extended tube you pulled out from the front. +--- 57890882 +>>57885907 +Would be cool if it was a glawk with a switch. +I call it an "AUTOMOBILE" +--- 57890900 +>>57886228 +Like 90% of /k/ seems to think your average HD situation will look like three gun autism +--- 57890910 +>>57885907 +Seems like lot of potential for being a finger fucker +--- 57890918 +>>57886230 +And then in real life combat 99% of shots fired are just blind firing in the general area of the enemy +--- 57890936 +>>57889889 +About as unsafe as Lorena Bobbitt with a Stihl chainsaw +--- 57890946 +>>57885780 +It's really just the color scheme that ruins it. A tacticool black would have you cumming all over it +--- 57890955 +>>57885597 +Quintessential shartmerican post +--- 57890996 +>>57890946 +It still looks absolutely retarded anon +--- 57891001 +>>57890900 +It will when I make it look like a 3 gun match by force. +The world is my canvas to draw on. +--- 57891006 +>>57888064 +What black ops units do you see that use anything like that? +--- 57891048 +>>57890946 +Anon why the fuck didn't you just play with the saturation, then the brightness, contrast, etc. instead of making it all funky looking with what appears to be some kind of filter that looks for edges and texture? Your pic looks friggin' green. +--- 57891060 +>>57885907 +That's actually really fucking cool. +--- 57891073 +>>57885800 +>to +circumsized gun +--- 57891091 +>>57886754 +>dot and laser mounted to the same mount so they share a zero +Doesn't really matter unless you expect to remove either of them, which depends on the person. +Also, I don't see what's wrong with keeping it handguard mounted and just pushing the laser all the way to the front +--- 57891094 +>>57890781 +Looks like a fucking tumor. +--- 57891282 +>>57885587 (OP) +Competition awootism +--- 57891374 +>>57891048 +If only Stechkin defected +--- 57891458 +>>57891374 +I mean Korobov +--- 57891468 +>>57885597 +Mutt’s law +--- 57891513 +>>57891374 +why is the fucking receiver backwards +--- 57891519 +>>57891513 +To fit the mag further back retard diff --git a/k/57885709.txt b/k/57885709.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1fa446ce2580af658b1ce0242a31d4fe06167abb --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57885709.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1027 @@ +----- +--- 57885709 +The US Military's only strategic interest is literally peace and free trade. That's it. Why does this enrage thirdies to the point of scorched earth? +--- 57885734 +>>57885709 (OP) +--- 57885765 +>>57885709 (OP) +We don't negotiate with terrorists :^) +--- 57885793 +>>57885709 (OP) +Peace and free trade existed before USA existed +--- 57885990 +Hyperlocal power struggles can result in pretty irrational behavior when seen from a global perspective. + +See Russia, for example +--- 57886043 +>>57885734 +--- 57886080 +>>57885709 (OP) +Because the savages want to rape, pillage, and otherwise gain at the expense of their neighbors. That and they support satanic ideologies like Communism that deserve to be destroyed +>>57885793 +This is objectively untrue +--- 57886167 +Why does the US fear peace? +--- 57886208 +>>57885709 (OP) +usa is pawn of anti christ +--- 57886242 +>>57886167 +>Why does the world's biggest arms dealing country fear peace? +--- 57886463 +>>57885734 +they deserved it +--- 57886490 +>>57885709 (OP) +>That's it. +You forgot Israel. +--- 57886498 +>>57885734 +I mean it does say the trauma centre, what were they expecting? +--- 57886516 +>>57885709 (OP) +>Why does this enrage thirdies to the point of scorched earth? +They can't comprehend a situation where nations will cooperate voluntarily instead of being dominated by the biggest dog forcibly. They also feel incredible jealously over the US's strength and wealth, believing they don't deserve it. +--- 57886539 +>>57886167 +>(((Bloom(((berg)))))) +Also it is saying shit that has been said for fucking decades. China cares about China and will always do what it can to further China as a nation. China doesn't give a shit about the world, nor peace, nor Russia nor Ukraine - they just want to be billy big bollocks and try and force their shit so they can go 'we peaceful and prosperous country that wants to help stabilise the world - USA is bad and warmongering!'. This is just the perfect opportunity - they can make USA look like the baddies (and all their allies) and distract people from the fact China is eyeing up its neighbours and is constantly engaging in armed conflict with India while it breaks international laws with the whole island thing. +--- 57886557 +>>57885734 +MSF themselves admitted that jihadis had been using the hospital as a firing point. +--- 57886566 +>>57885793 +>>57886080 +It is objectively untrue. But only because while the USA was in it's infancy, the Pax Brittannia was in effect. +It's more correct to say that Anglos only real interest is peace and free trade. +--- 57886588 +>>57886490 +The US gives/gave aid to almost every country +--- 57886610 +>>57885709 (OP) +Because they hate america more than they value living this is why you will never have pax Americana +--- 57886621 +>>57886588 +I'm not talking about aid. +--- 57887274 +>>57885709 (OP) +Are you kidding bro? Is this what we're doing today, we're gonna be gay? +--- 57887441 +it's just crabs in a bucket mentality + +they would rather be poor than have equal rights with those they consider beneath them like racial/religious minorities and LGBT. That's literally it +--- 57887478 +>>57886043 +in case anyone here hasn’t watched Peacemaker + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mrr3UNALww [Embed] +--- 57887519 +>>57885709 (OP) +>peace +>free trade +big X to doubt on that one +--- 57887522 +Honestly as empires go the US is pretty fucking mercyful. +Imagine if the Romans had to deal with an insurgency like Vietnam or Afghanistan. They would have fucking genocided the place down to the last goat. +--- 57887534 +>>57885709 (OP) +>The US Military's only strategic interest is literally peace and free trade. +lol, lmao even +--- 57887540 +>>57885709 (OP) +The Military's? Fair enough. But not the US Government's. You see, people elsewhere don't want to be forced to accept LGBT degeneracy or make the mistake of giving women the right to vote. +--- 57887561 +>>57885709 (OP) +OP is 100 percent correct, but the average retard doesn't understand the value of Neoliberalism. The Chicago School of Economics was founded and maintained by the most brilliant economists in history. Its just not something the layperson would understand. The average American themselves doesn't even understand what Neoliberalism is. +--- 57887563 +>>57887540 +On dong give me that bullshit. All the burgers ask from their allies is that they at least pretend to respect human rights and trade with them. It's that fucking simple and yet so many fucking subhumans find this incomprehensible. +--- 57887592 +>>57885709 (OP) +One dollar as been deposited into your anus for your future transition surgery. +--- 57887599 +>>57885709 (OP) +>we're not intrinsically backwards stone age barbarians, imperialism and capitalism are why we didn't go to the moon +This is the psychological wellspring which allows communism to keep trudging on like a zombie. If we actually 'followed the science' to its limited agency conclusions, self-government would be looking a lot more like Starship Troopers (the novel) than kumbaya canards that only accrue toward oligarchy. +--- 57888129 +>>57887592 +>Russian +>Can only think in terms on anal sex and trannies +Checks out. +--- 57888144 +>>57886167 +>China's peaceplan +Nobody is accepting that shit. Even the russians told china that it isn't going to happen. +--- 57888147 +>>57887540 +--- 57888160 +>>57887592 +>Latuff +Isn't that guy a literal communist? +--- 57888177 +>>57887540 +>accepts +Nobody is forcing you to accept it. Nobody is infringing on your right to think. But it becomes a problem when you infringe on other people's rights. You can just call them a faggot and walk away. Killing them or infringing on their rights will only fuel their movement, which is the last thing you want when it comes to hating an idea or way of thinking. +--- 57888220 +>57888147 +You are not wanted here either +--- 57888380 +>>57885709 (OP) +Because that's what jews set as their priority? I'd also blame the Roundheads before them. My ideal America would be a genocidal imperialist power. I uttery despise the national socialists and especially the TRS faggots because they are just libtards who become neonazis, their feelings and proclivities didn't change. I want profitable war; in which my empire wrenches away territory from others, kills the inhabitants, and then fills it with people related to me. I hate China and Russia almost as much as the Jews because they are the same cowardly lying faggots. At least be an honest warmonger. + +>>57888177 +Faggots rape kids, like all the time. They should all be preemptively killed. +--- 57888382 +>>57885709 (OP) +Because thirdies want to maraud passing freighters but the USN is oppressing them +--- 57888390 +>>57885709 (OP) +>The US Military's only strategic interest is literally peace +Do you glowniggers even try anymore? +--- 57888409 +>>57888380 +least bloodthirsty american +--- 57888420 +>>57888220 +I'm happy for him to stay. +--- 57888426 +>>57888220 +Go back to your containment board. +--- 57888434 +Why sanction North Korea then ? They could keep their nuclear weapons and stop testing them in exchange for a lift on sanctions, it's one of the rare things Trump got right. +--- 57888447 +>>57888426 +Go back to yours +--- 57888454 +>>57886167 +The United States and the West as a whole has spent the last thirty years shipping its industries overseas to appease thirdies in an effort to avoid global great power conflict. We sold ourselves out to the benefit of people that not only do not appreciate it, not only spit in our faces, but turn around and use the wealth we gave them against us. If the United States and the West did not value peace, then we would have maintained our advantages and used them to wage war. +--- 57888456 +>>57886167 +>Chinese Peace Plan +Neither Russians nor Ukrainians want it. + +China is clearly on Russia's side so they'll circumvent international sanctions to get Russia the things they need for the war. +--- 57888465 +>>57887478 +I love how the animated bird looks down to find his stage mark and adjusts his footing. Perfection +--- 57888471 +>>57885709 (OP) +Masterful bait. /pol/niggers absolutely cannot resist it. I salute you sir. +--- 57888473 +>>57888390 +It's shitposting anon, do you newfaggots have neurons anymore? +--- 57888494 +>>57888456 +China really really doesnt want to get sanctioned so I think they arent going to provide much support. They came down pretty hard on those companies that were shipping body armour and rifles +--- 57888510 +>>57888473 +Most /pol/niggers are very new to /k/. They started shitting up the board last February. +--- 57888525 +>>57888380 +This is why your cause is losing. You can not think in terms more critical than 'kill people I don't like'. +--- 57888531 +>>57888525 +Nice counterbait +--- 57888543 +>>57888531 +It's not bait. The right is losing all over right now because we went too far down the crazy hole. Skeptical of POPULAR THING, but not skeptical of anything even remotely UNPOPULAR THING. +--- 57888560 +>>57888510 + +Same guy >>57888473 >>57888380 responding to your post to say it isn't /pol/tard problem it is a newfag problem the same one we have always had. I was posting on /new/ before /pol/ and am unironically more racist, hateful, and murderous than any nazi I've ever read of who isn't just a skinhead in a racial gang(ie a white nigger) in the 80s. Being able to converse with others in a civil manner and recognize bait, and then chose to respond to it anyway to make your own point or set your own bait isn't a matter of personal politics but maturity. Lurk 2 years newfags. +--- 57888571 +>>57888560 +Kek, are you 14 and wear all black too? +--- 57888611 +>>57885734 +>Fire from hospital invalidating its protected status +>Receive accurate return fire +--- 57888642 +>>57888525 +>>57888543 +If you are referring to the Republicans they are pro-fag, pro-nog, pro-spic, ect and have been forever. My people were never really part of that, we have killed people we don't like prementively for 500 years and we remain safe and fecund while the rest of you short, fuck, and, contracept yourselves out of existence. The only population which is breeding at replacement rates in any industrial nation are rural whites who are so racist that in my area they actively murder anybody who isn't white if they can get away with it. Note I'm not talking about the south or even bragging about my own activities I'm talking about the population at large. We have never been victims and will never be because we murder people for the barest slight and rather than lynching people openly or making a spectle of it we simply kill them in the dark and make the bodies vanish. Thus we are safe 99.9% white in this county, prosperous, and everybody his having kids. If you don't like it fine, maybe you can even survive on your own. Try what you want and let selective pressure determine the winners. I see a rotting dying world, but then again everyone before me and everyone after me has seen the same thing. I was born a asshole and will die an asshole just as libtards were born to morally and socially signal, chinks were born to bow, and jews to lie, and niggas to nig. I can't change that, nobody can. + +"We see things only as we are constructed to see them and can gain no knowledge of their absolute nature." HPL +--- 57888643 +>>57888454 +>The US and the West didn't sell out their manufactury industry and low-skill jobs to the third world because they offered greater profit through lower wages at the expense of their own citizens! They did it out of the goodness in its heart! +--- 57888659 +>>57888380 +>Faggots rape kids, like all the time. They should all be preemptively killed. +But you're just generalizing. Its like saying religion cause pedophilia because 5/10 church priests are more likely to groom boys/girls alike. Pedophilia is already illegal. Your strawmans and impulsive behavior is what fuel those type of causes. You're fueling their ambitions because faggots like you like to go overboard. I hate faggots, but I don't go around and cause harm. I just simply call them a faggot and walk away because what they are interested in is none my business unless some of them are actual pedophiles. In which case, i would just call the authorities because vigilantism will make the problem worse and will cause the FBI or other investigation agencies to drop the case because of you being retarded. Remember onision? That faggot haven't gone to jail because chris hanson was being a retard and decided to not cooperate with the authorities before getting him in trouble for grooming. +--- 57888665 +>>57888543 +Take this shit to a different board or a different website. +--- 57888682 +>>57885709 (OP) +>What is the petro-dollar? +--- 57888700 +>>57888571 +I just like Khorne, it's a fun army and I like war so it fits. I also just like Skull Crushers and Blood crushers because metal rhino cavalry is just plain cool. Emperor's Children are also fun, especially now that daemonettes have 7" movement. You should realize that some people are just dicks right? I like watching people suffer and die, sue me. I've been laughing my ass off at stupid shit in warzones since 2002 and sometimes being genuinely impressed by what I've seen. Either way I'm having fun and that's why I come to /k/. +--- 57888706 +>>57885709 (OP) +Shut up americuck mutt +Its not because we hate russians/chinks that we must obligatory hate you +--- 57888711 +>>57888494 +That was a few weeks ago or so, but just yesterday the Chinese Defense Minister met with Putin to ensure military ties and cooperation with Russia, whever that means. + +Additionally, Ukrainians keep claiming that they continue to find Chinese parts in captured Russian equipment to this date. + +https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/putin-boasts-of-joint-military-exercises-in-meeting-with-chinese-defense-chief/ar-AA19YFjD + +https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-says-it-keeps-findinyahg-chinese-made-parts-in-russian-weapons-undermining-its-claim-not-to-be-helping-putin-fight/ar-AA19Yedj +--- 57888712 +>>57886539 +In this case, the U.S. are the baddies. +--- 57888739 +>>57888510 +--- 57888740 +>>57888665 +> nooo you have to hecking HATE liberty and individualism! every based /k/ anon LOVES the government! +Nah, go be a fag elsewhere +--- 57888748 +>>57888739 +> flashback to Willis comics making fun of /pol/fags +I'm sure you're definitely an oldfag anon +--- 57888760 +>>57885709 (OP) +>The British Military's only strategic interest is literally peace and free trade. That's it. Why does this enrage the colonists to the point of scorched earth? +--- 57888783 +>>57888160 +A literal communist cuckold, actually. +--- 57888795 +No +--- 57888812 +>>57888740 +I don't know what you're talking about and what you're trying to project onto me and I don't care. Take your gay personal political crusade somewhere else +--- 57888821 +>>57888812 +Cry about it more, that will help +--- 57888826 +>>57888821 +u mad +--- 57888860 +>>57888659 +>But you're just generalizing +Generalizations are often accurate when dealing with population. + +>saying religion cause pedophilia because 5/10 church priests +Anon my statistic is accurate while that one isn't, 90% of faggots say they were molested and they constantly molest kids(79% of cases are homosexua an therefore by definition faggots). While those priests are rare as shit and statistically speaking molest way fewer kids than secular social workers or foster parents. Faggots get into the priesthood and get that position in order to rape kids. And at least in PA the last five catholic priests who did it were conversos ie jews who pretend to be convert. I mean you want a religion in which priests molest kids look no further than the orthodox jews, but that is a ethnic issue because jews are way more likely to be freaks any other race. + +I don't believe in treating people as individuals and do not expect that treatment from others. + +>because vigilantism will make the problem worse +If the faggot/pedo is murdered and his body tied to cinder blocks and thrown so deep in a cranberry bog only the bears will find him I think the problem is been thoroughly and presently solved anon. +--- 57888864 +>>57888434 +Because you can't trust them to not use them for blackmail against South Korea or Japan, or hell, even China. +--- 57888865 +>>57885709 (OP) +>peace and free trade +Only as long as the trade is beneficial to the US. +--- 57888967 +>>57885734 +Deserved it, MSF was helping ISIS +--- 57889095 +>>57888739 +>>57888760 +>>57888865 +that anon is retarded +brits and americans don't care about peace per se (if that was all they cared about then they would have appeased hitler, napoleon, and while hes not as significant a threat, putin) +they typically care about peace on the continent (of europe), largely for the sake of trade and long term geopolitical security, but all the same +so every single time a country in Europe appears to be gaining an upper hand on the others, and risk dominating the continent, they will relentlessly support the defenders/attack their adversaries +the same is probably also true for Asia tbqh +don't fuck with the merchants customers, and don't threaten his store +otherwise, they at least need a genuine, or otherwise convincing, casus belli to do anything +--- 57889157 +>>57885709 (OP) +Freedom and free trade is bad for socialist authoritarian shitholes +It's just that simple. +--- 57889334 +>>57888860 +>Generalizations are often accurate when dealing with population. +Not really because it is proned to misunderstandings. We have a innocent until proven guilty system for a reason. +>Anon my statistic is accurate while that one isn't, 90% of faggots say they were molested and they constantly molest kids(79% of cases are homosexua an therefore by definition faggots). While those priests are rare as shit and statistically speaking molest way fewer kids than secular social workers or foster parents. Faggots get into the priesthood and get that position in order to rape kids. And at least in PA the last five catholic priests who did it were conversos ie jews who pretend to be convert. I mean you want a religion in which priests molest kids look no further than the orthodox jews, but that is a ethnic issue because jews are way more likely to be freaks any other race. +Most of those people that were doing the molesting weren't self proclaimed faggots. But while there's an issue with their history and mental health, you still need to not go overboard when it comes to certain actions because it may fuel their cause. Just call them a faggot and walk away. +>If the faggot/pedo is murdered and his body tied to cinder blocks and thrown so deep in a cranberry bog only the bears will find him I think the problem is been thoroughly and presently solved anon. +But the remains will still remain there and will eventually come back to bite you legally if someone finds it. +--- 57890035 +>>57885734 +>kunduz +>MSF goes into taliban territory +>US asks for their position so they don't die +>MSF tells US to go fuck itself +>taliban attacks MSF makeshift hospital +>US using ANA intel start calling in airstrikes on taliban positions +>taliban hides in makeshift hospital +>hospital gets lased and destroyed +>MSF cries and blames the US for their retardation +--- 57890081 +>>57886167 +Because peace in real terms means "let russia win", which will practically guarantee more war in the future for Eastern Europe. +--- 57890159 +>>57886167 +We tried to have peace 8 years ago after the Russians fucked up the peace we had 23 years earlier than that. + +Don't call it a war. It's the 'Special Military Operation' you chose. +--- 57890387 +>>57887561 +ELI5 +--- 57890436 +>>57887522 +The soviets opted for a something in that vein in Afghanistan, even that didn't work. +--- 57890470 +>>57887561 +It's a measurable fact that the average human today enjoys greater material abundance and means to reduce or eliminate suffering than at any point in history. It's bizarre that so many seethe at the nations and ideas that have brought that about. +--- 57890471 +>>57885709 (OP) +Because when the gap in living standards is so high and is so widely advertised via mass media, it's easy to direct hate of near-poverty population towards the ones who lives much better. So this is the go to plan for every political figure who would like to control the population +--- 57890485 +How many years has America been at peace during its existence? +--- 57890488 +>>57885734 +They were given fair warning and told the US military to get fucked. Cry more. +--- 57890528 +>>57887478 +Love Jennifer Holland girls got some nice arm tone and is a head turner. +--- 57890535 +>>57890485 +The more relevant question from the American perspective is how many years have her territories been free of war and the sea lanes open for her trade. +--- 57890544 +>>57885709 (OP) +And anti-colonialism, racial diversity, gay rights and trans rights. +--- 57890693 +The fact that this thread is full of middle east asshurt, random tiny "gotcha" incidents from 46 years ago, and completely illogical schizo babble proves OP completely right. + +Why are ESLs so mindbroken? Does the internet confuse them, so they adopt every conspiracy theory they see? +--- 57890713 +>>57885734 +>Harbor fighters +>Repeatedly get told to evacuate or tell fighters to get out +>They don't, fighters continue shooting +>Place gets bombed +lol +--- 57890715 +>>57890693 +"ressentiment" +--- 57890768 +>>57888380 +Ah, a fellow moderate, I see +--- 57890828 +>>57890693 +Most the world has a decent reason for disliking the US. Pretty much every continent the US has fucked with, granting a decent reason to dislike them. +--- 57890849 +>>57890828 +name 'em. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. +--- 57890864 +>>57890715 +literally the definition of the russian state +--- 57890938 +>>57890849 +>Extraordinary claims +Kek what? Ok, South America for all the CIA fun times, Europe for the obvious, Africa for dicking around there, middle east for the wars and Arab Spring, Asia making locals pawns against enemies and for freezing conflicts that need to be finished +--- 57891007 +>>57885709 (OP) +People would like America a lot more if it wasn't so obsessed with Israel and gay marriage. +--- 57891020 +>>57891007 +There is literally nothing wrong with gay marriage. The American mission is to allow anyone to persue whatever life they want. This country was founded on the principles of people moving to it to escape the cultural autism of the old world. + +Israel is different though, thats basically a modern day apartheid state. +--- 57891025 +>>57888865 +Who should america make trade beneficial for if not itself +--- 57891026 +>>57891020 +Fags are mentally ill and gay marriage was the slippery slope that allowed America to descend into the modern state of trooning out its children. + +If you respected other people, then you'd also respect their choice to not legalize gay marriage. +--- 57891037 +>>57891026 +>the slippery slope that allowed America to descend into the modern state of trooning out its children. +Pedophiles exist on all sides of the political spectrum. Instead of attacking "muh troons" you should instead focus on attack the core problem which are just pedophiles in general. You wont because you're a dishonest retard +>then you'd also respect their choice to not legalize gay marriage. +Thats completely retarded, gays getting married have 0 baring on your life. +--- 57891042 +>>57891037 +>Pedophiles exist on all sides +Sure, but the rates at which they exist are not equal among all communities. +>Thats completely retarded +Is it? How many years passed between gay marriage becoming legal and giving estrogen pills to 6 year olds? +--- 57891052 +>>57891042 +>Sure, but the rates at which they exist are not equal among all communities. +Pedophiles have no community, they're sexual deviants, they're just opportunists and nothing more. Gender studies gives them a pathway to carry out their degeneracy in the same way Catholic priests were able to abuse peoples trust. +>How many years passed between gay marriage becoming legal and giving estrogen pills to 6 year olds? +Those aren't the same thing. You want to believe they are, but they aren't +--- 57891053 +>>57888454 +>The United States and the West as a whole has spent the last thirty years shipping its industries overseas to appease thirdies +What the fuck are you on about +--- 57891054 +>>57888380 +Based moderate. +--- 57891058 +>>57890081 +>>57888456 +you suffer from usa propaganda brain rot +--- 57891059 +>>57891052 +>Pedophiles have no community +You can say the same generally speaking about any criminals, yet 13% do commit over 50% of all crime, no? +>Those aren't the same thing +No, but one inevitably leads to the other. That has been the path for all Western countries. +--- 57891067 +>>57891020 +You're dishonest. There is no possible way you want everyone free to pursue whatever life the want. +--- 57891070 +>>57891007 +>>57891026 +>Israel +>muh gays +Nobody cares about that and not evem sure why you care about what fags do. Even without *gay* marriage, the fags will still be there. Laws don't dictate the culture/habits, the prohibition era taught us this well. +>trooning out their children +That type of thing is not a common occurrence and even if it is, its frowned upon when it happened. Trooning out children is not associated with gay marriage by any means. Shitty parents are a thing and whether the parents and the child want to be trooned out is none of my business. Unless, of course, you want government to be involved in healthcare(which libertarians and people with semi libertarian views hate) in which case, if you want to ban trooning or whatever, then you have to approve government involvement in private affairs and healthcare. +--- 57891074 +>>57891059 +>yet 13% do commit over 50% of all crime, no? +We already handle black crime not on the basis of them being black, but on the basis of them being criminals. +>but one inevitably leads to the other. +non-sequitur +--- 57891075 +>>57891070 +>Nobody cares about that +Except the people making up the American foreign policy. +>its frowned upon when it happened +It's literally ILLEGAL to go against it in several US states. +--- 57891082 +>>57891074 +>We already handle black crime +You clearly don't, retard. +>non-sequitur +You're using words you don't know the meaning of. +--- 57891085 +>>57891020 +>This country was founded on the principles of people moving to it to escape the cultural autism of the old world +It was founded by fortune-seekers, upstarts, and outcasts, not necessarily anti-cultural people. In any case it soon developed its own national mythos that its population lived out, so claiming 20th century Americans are outcasts without a mother culture is retarded. +--- 57891087 +>>57891082 +>You clearly don't, retard. +This retard thinks prisons don't exist. +--- 57891092 +>>57891075 +>Except the people making up the American foreign policy. +No, it is not. American foreign policy hasn't changed in decades. Literally nobody cares and its been on status quo ever since. +>It's literally ILLEGAL to go against it in several US states. +No, you can still call up your representatives or protest against it. But whatever states do in their shitholes is none of my concern. Again, you're suggesting government involvement in private lives and healthcare, which I doubt you want. Healthcare in america is decided on the states. Whatever the states do is their business when it comes to healthcare. +--- 57891093 +>>57891087 +Prisons that routinely let criminals off the hook? DA's that constantly refuse to uphold the law? + +Remind me how many priors did George Floyd have again? And he was still out on the street? +--- 57891099 +>>57886498 +Kek +--- 57891100 +>>57885709 (OP) +Although degeneracy and shit is rampant in the west, the standard of living for the average man is still better in the west. Remove degeneracy and the west will be top comfy. +Meanwhile in shitholes, even without LGHDTV+ and other shit, it's still a fucking shithole. +That's why they continue to seethe even in this thread. +--- 57891102 +>>57891092 +>No, it is not. American foreign policy hasn't changed in decades +Yeah that doesn't support your argument at all. lol +The US has been supporting faggots and Israel for decades. +>No, you can still call up your representatives or protest against it. But whatever states do in their shitholes is none of my concern +KEK are you listening to yourself? +>hehe states saying it's illegal for parents to misgender their kids is actually based and redpilled american values bro +>we wouldn't want the government to intervene would we? +Modern libertarians are an even bigger meme than they used to be. +--- 57891117 +>>57891093 +George Floyd committed the heinous crime of having a counterfeit 20 dollar bill. Is he really someone you think deserved to be in prison? I'm not even talking about the BLM retardation here, Derek Cauvin 100 percent deserves to be in prison, and his use of force was not justified. If you think it was, them you're effectively holding your local police to a lower standard. You're part of the problem +--- 57891123 +>>57891117 +>George Floyd committed the heinous crime of having a counterfeit 20 dollar bill. +I am talking about his 20+ priors you baboon brained retard. +--- 57891140 +>>57891123 +He served his priors and was otherwise doing absolutely nothing wrong. You're the reason our prisons are overflooded too. +--- 57891142 +>>57888454 +shipping our industries overseas served only one singular purpose: the wasp ruling class was tired of being multi-millionaires and decided they will become billionaires. your uneducated opinion is so moronic, i'm embarrassed for u +--- 57891150 +>>57891140 +If you can commit 20+ fucking crimes, including assault and robbery, and still be free because people don't want the prisons to be overcrowded, then you cannot say you're "handling black crime". +--- 57891159 +>>57891150 +your definition of handling black crime is sitting on someones neck until they choke to death. There is no changing your mind here so I'll just leave it at that. Just be aware you're everything wrong with America today +--- 57891161 +>>57891102 +>Yeah that doesn't support your argument at all. lol The US has been supporting faggots and Israel for decades. +No? Its not the main thing in our foreign policy. You screaming about jews and gays(even though its a really minuscule part of our foreign policy) is stupid. +>KEK are you listening to yourself? +Why do you care about what other states do? If its a issue in your area, then call up your representatives or form a protest. Its not that hard. +>hehe states saying it's illegal for parents to misgender their kids is actually based and redpilled american values bro +>we wouldn't want the government to intervene would we? +What illegal? States can do what they want as long as it doesn't violate the constitution fully. If you hate it, protest about it. Nobody is calling it based and red pill either, but you don't live in those states and whether they practice shit you don't like doesn't effect you. What you're suggesting is the federal government being more involved in our lives. Do you want to increase the power to the federal government? +--- 57891175 +>>57891159 +I never said anything about Chauvin. You're the one that brought him up. My point is that a guy that has a rap sheet that can't fit on a A4 paper shouldn't be out on the streets. +>>57891161 +>Its not the main thing in our foreign policy. +Yes it is. You're giving billions of dollars to Israel every year, you have policies literally made to ensure their tech superiority over their neighbors. You fought the Iraq war because of it. You allowed Israel to steal radioactive material to build their nukes illegally. +You are their slave. +>Why do you care about what other states do? +kek you're literally pic related +--- 57891178 +>>57891102 +>support jews +Nigger, the U.S. has been giving foreign aid like candy. Israel getting aid is a really specific thing to choose out of ALL the countries that america has been giving aid to. +>m-muh faggots +Nobody cares. +--- 57891185 +>>57891175 +>image +Slippery slope fallacy wrapped in alarmist rhetoric. You're like a walking checkbox at this point. +--- 57891187 +people don't want niggers trannies kikes and faggots installed in their country +--- 57891190 +>>57891178 +>Israel getting aid is a really specific thing to choose out of ALL the countries that america has been giving aid to. +Probably cause it's the biggest net aid beneficiary and has the most one-sided deals out of all other countries? + +Retard. +>>57891185 +>dooood it's alarmist +>just ignore the last 20 years bro :) +--- 57891200 +>>57891187 +thats interesting anon +are the nigger tranny kikes in the room with you right now? +--- 57891206 +>>57891175 +>Yes it is. You're giving billions of dollars to Israel every year, you have policies literally made to ensure their tech superiority over their neighbors. You fought the Iraq war because of it. You allowed Israel to steal radioactive material to build their nukes illegally. +But it is not? America has been giving aid to everyone, Israel is a minuscule factor when it comes to foreign aid. Along with Israel being a local ally in the middle east, in which case, america would obviously support as long as it serves whatever interests they have in the region. +>muh iraq +Iraq was started over variety of reasons, you deflecting to Israel shows that you're new to geopolitics +--- 57891209 +>Probably cause it's the biggest net aid beneficiary +... +--- 57891223 +>>57890938 +>South America for all the CIA fun times +local radical groups had a much larger impact. CIA sponsored =/= full military invasion. This was under the cold war, and surprise all socialist dictatorships automatically became shitholes. USSR started meddling in the 70s, but leftist revisionism wants you to believe it is just America REEEEEE- from the 60s until now. Also the CIA failed a lot in its operations. +>Europe for the obvious +Saving them from asiatic savages? +>Africa for dicking around there +You mean billions in gov aid every year? +>middle east for the wars +US is a literal angel compared to Taliban/ISIS/Saddam/Syria/Russia etc. +>Asia making locals pawns against enemies and for freezing conflicts that need to be finished +As I said, incoherent schizo babble. But I understand, the internet is stuffed by anti-US propaganda from raging academics/jurnos who needed to vent their frustrations of America after trump won in '16. Ironic that they always talk about "muh democracy" but then fail to understand that democracy means the other guy wins too sometimes. +--- 57891236 +>>57891190 +>Probably cause it's the biggest net aid beneficiary and has the most one-sided deals out of all other countries? +No, america has many countries that they gave billions to. The amount of billions depends on the year and what the situation that is happening at the moment. And it is also dependent on what type of aid you're talking about. +--- 57891244 +>>57891209 +Your mistake is thinking that these people are capable of comprehending facts. They are broken records who will repeat /pol/ talking points, they will never agree with you because then you exposed them as retards, which is humiliating for these mouthbreathers. +--- 57891246 +>>57891206 +>But it is not? +But Israel is the biggest beneficiary. +>Iraq was started over variety of reasons, you deflecting to Israel shows that you're new to geopolitics +kek let me guess "muh oil"? +>>57891236 +You're disingenuous. I didn't break it down by year, I said "biggest aid beneficiary". As in of all time. +--- 57891249 +>>57891200 +dilate +--- 57891254 +>>57891209 +The US has given Israel over 100 billion so far. +--- 57891255 +>>57891190 +>Probably cause it's the biggest net aid beneficiary and has the most one-sided deals out of all other countries? +HAHAHAHAHHAHAA! Nice of you to show that you got your information from /pol/. Not even close you dumb faggot. +--- 57891259 +>>57891254 +>>57891255 +Feel free to prove it wrong then. +--- 57891266 +>>57891249 +Yes anon I see. They make medication for your mental illness. I'm writing you up a prescription for Copium™ Make sure to take one 500mg tablet daily as prescribed. +--- 57891277 +>>57891246 +>post rando article +>But Israel is the biggest beneficiary. +No, many other countries are in the billions when it comes to foreign aid. Israel is just ONE of them rather than a singularity. Even then, its a small portion of out budget and GDP that its not even relevant. +>oil +Meme answer will always be meme answer. +--- 57891287 +>>57891249 +>post shitty memes made by /leftypol/ faggots +Lol, lmao even. +--- 57891289 +>>57891277 +The article was in reference to your second point, you retard. +--- 57891294 +>>57891246 +>You're disingenuous. I didn't break it down by year, I said "biggest aid beneficiary". As in of all time. +Thats pretty vague because foreign aid is really broad and has been increasing year by year for some countries. Israel is not the only country to get billions in aid. +--- 57891301 +>>57891289 +>article +Lmao +--- 57891305 +>>57891289 +What article, post it, or better post the archive +--- 57891310 +>>57891301 +>>57891305 +The archive is linked in the picture. +Thanks for letting me know you didn't even open the thumbnail. +>>57891294 +No, it's not vague. You're trying to make it vague cause you lost. +--- 57891312 +DIDNT even the US condemn shit Israel has been saying recently? +--- 57891318 +>>57891266 +0.01 USD has been deposited into your Amazon smart wallet. Please perform the TikTok Amazon loyalty dance to withdraw your funds. +--- 57891321 +>>57891310 +>No, it's not vague. You're trying to make it vague cause you lost. +It is vague because you're just posting in all time rather than by year. +--- 57891324 +>>57891318 +Take your meds. +--- 57891329 +>>57891321 +Cause that's the argument I made in the first place? Israel is the largest recipient of all time. +It varies by year, but by total amount Israel is nr1. +--- 57891330 +>>57885709 (OP) +They (we) want to be the ones who post such things. For that, America needs to be brought down a peg or two. +--- 57891335 +>>57891310 +Wait all your archive link leads to is +>pic +--- 57891336 +>>57891324 +>the trannies are all in your head, take your meds chud +meanwhile actual nafo discord trannies are shilling mutt and kike interests like wildfire. nice try. go back to /leftypol/ and dilate your rotting hole +--- 57891338 +>>57891329 +Ok and? SOMEONE was going to be? +--- 57891341 +>>57891336 +>obsessing with NAFO and jews out of nowhere +>/leftypol/ +Nigger, you're the one that is from there lmao. Nice try, bunkertroon. +--- 57891343 +>>57891336 +Do you act have any proof of this, as in people admitting to it or discord logs or are you making assumptions? +--- 57891349 +>>57891335 +You are a complete illiterate. What fucking link did you even access you troglodyte? +https://archive.fo/mQyuV +>>57891338 +KEK +--- 57891351 +>>57891329 +How long has Israel been getting aid, retard? By all time doesn't matter because what matters is the current aid that they are recieving. Not the aid that they recieved in the 70s. +--- 57891354 +>>57891349 +Oh lol I missed the m +--- 57891358 +>>57891341 +>leftypol hates kikes and trannies +news to me +>>57891343 +>MUH PROOFS!!!! +the fsb and cia are both shilling the board since february to control the public opinion. not my fault that you can't put 2 and 2 together ++ncd, the lair of reddit trannies is obsessed with k and frequent the board as tourists +--- 57891363 +>>57891358 +>playing dumb +>being retardedly schizophrenic +You're a bunker troon +--- 57891364 +>>57891358 +So you see others have different opinions and immediately assume they’re a part of a conspiracy to silence you? +--- 57891366 +>>57891351 +>by all time doesn't matter +Why wouldn't, you fucking moron? +--- 57891378 +>>57891366 +Because their aid from the 60s doesn't matter because as stated, foreign aid is getting more broader. As it gets more broader, countries will more aid and over time they may rival Israel depending on their situation. You know what happened in the 60s? The cold war. Soviets supplied arabs, so america supplied the Israelis. +--- 57891381 +>>57891364 +its not an opinion that you have, it's been implanted into you by years of consuming niggercattle media, just as those faggot russians that you rightfully mock for coping about their nigger army +the us is known to spread trannies faggots and woman rights everywhere and flood the place with niggers to make everyone a mutt. they send israel money and secrets because the kikes in their government want it. +the CIA is miles more competent than the FSB/KGB and even the russians figured out how useful idiots work. +--- 57891384 +>>57891381 +>schizophrenic nonsense +>third world cope +You lost. +--- 57891390 +> At the conclusion of its second week, the war to liberate Iraq wasn't looking good. Not even in Washington. The assumption of a swift collapse of the Saddam Hussein regime had itself collapsed. + +Well the article aged poorly and that’s just the start. +>two jurnos claim Jews are behind war +>immediately already fuck up and say the group isn’t actually all Jews +>rest of article just about predictions of war, with off hand comment out Israel and the gibbes we send them +--- 57891395 +>>57891378 +>countries may rival israel in the future therefore it doesn't matter that america gave 150 billion to israel :) +The fucking chutzpah on you to even try to make this argument. +--- 57891397 +>>57891381 +Ah now I’m a man made zombie npc run by the conspiracy to silence you....as you free yell at me online about it. +--- 57891404 +>>57891397 +yeah engaging with you demoralisation fags is not worth it +you will never make me accept racemixing, kikes, niggers, troons and fags. you lost +--- 57891406 +>>57891395 +>not adjusted for inflation +--- 57891409 +>>57891406 +So it's even higher than 150 billion. +--- 57891411 +>>57891404 +>not worth it +Then why do you? +--- 57891416 +>>57891411 +because its cathartic +--- 57891417 +>>57891409 +Yes and higher in other countries too +--- 57891418 +>>57891417 +But still the highest in Israel. +--- 57891421 +>>57891395 +>america gives aid to Israel during the cold war to counter soviet interests in the region +It shouldn't count because aid in all time doesn't mean anything. What matters is how much they are getting currently rather than what they got during the 60s. +--- 57891430 +>>57891421 +Test out your theory anon. +Count the aid from 1991-2023 and let me know what your findings are. +--- 57891431 +>>57891416 +How? If we’re all npc zombies controlled by the conspiracy, anything you say makes no difference and by your own admission is a waste of time and clearly gets you angry, given your proclivity to insults. +--- 57891435 +>>57891430 +Also, another thing, military aid are fixed valued. They are assets rather than *cash*. +--- 57891436 +>>57885709 (OP) +Because "free trade" here is a euphemism for allowing US companies to do whatever they want in the third world. You pass legislation giving thirdies the same rights as westerners and the US is going to read that as a trade barrier and act accordingly. And god forbid you nationalize something, try that shit and you're going to be hanged from a lamp-post by your own intestines. +--- 57891438 +>>57891431 +that anger feels good i think +--- 57891444 +>>57891430 +--- 57891449 +>>57891438 +That probably isn’t health for your mental well-being anon, purposely seeking out things you hate +--- 57891450 +>>57891438 +you're not an npc zombie or whatever, it seems as if when you're angry all you say degrades down to that primal tribal shillnigger level so excuse my stereotypicality +--- 57891452 +>>57891435 +>>57891444 +Sorry anon, those aren't the 1991-2023 numbers. +--- 57891460 +>>57891449 +one of the ways you cope with the world going to shit +--- 57891464 +>>57891452 +>1946-2020 +>specifically shows how much they’ve gotten +>now isn’t what you want +Here we go +--- 57891470 +>>57891464 +No it isn't, because your argument was that those numbers do not matter. + +I am asking specifically where Israel ranks when you only take into account US aid between 1991-2023. + +Wasn't that your argument, friend? +--- 57891480 +>>57891470 +Here just read this I’m not that anon +https://sgp.fas.org/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf +--- 57891481 +What I never understood about the schizos seething about Israel here is the fact they they simply can't comprehend why the US would support a relatively stable, friendly nation that acts as a foil to the sandnigger contres to focus on. + +Also, the Soviets supplied the Arabs and so the us supplied the heebs. +--- 57891484 +>>57891470 +140 billion in a 80 year period.... not as much as you'd think. +--- 57891488 +>>57891481 +Because Jews are the crux of their conspiracy and have been for nearly a century. +--- 57891495 +>>57891484 +Huh? What does that have to do with the conversation at hand? +>>57891480 +Can you please point out where that document backs up your point? I don't really want to read about 50 pages for nothing. +--- 57891496 +>>57891484 +Yes but it SIUNDS like alot>>57891488 +--- 57891500 +>>57891481 +Funny that they accidentally became communist sympathizers despite supposedly hating communists themselves. +--- 57891508 +>>57891500 +>accidentally +--- 57891515 +>>57891488 +Damn dude, you guys make the Jews seem so fucking powerful every time you have one of your schizo meltdowns lol. +--- 57891517 +>>57891495 +You almost fooled me into thinking we were having an actual conversation, gg +--- 57891523 +>>57891517 +I don't even know which faggot you are, anon. +--- 57891529 +>>57891508 +I say accidentally because schizos love to brag about them hating communism, but yet they shill for countries that were funded by communists or see them as their idols. +--- 57891531 +>>57891515 +What? I mean yes they do give them a lot more power than they actually have by elevating them to such a degree in their heads. Same with the more Deranged flat earthers and antivaxxers who create these world wide conspiracies +--- 57891538 +>>57891523 +I’m just the one providing a pdf filled with actual us government data on the exact amount of aid given to Israel to the date of 2020 and that in the long term 150 billion is a drop in the bucket in out foreign aid spending +--- 57891541 +>>57891538 +That's really nice of you anon, next time please make sure to read the reply chain so you don't provide a useless document. +--- 57891544 +>>57891529 +Oh well that’s just contrarianism and unironic propaganda at work +--- 57891550 +>>57891531 +Yeah it's always so funny to me. +It exposes their entire pathetic schizo ideology into just being not for thee but for me. And then they get really mad when you point out that the Jews are apparently beating them at their own game. +--- 57891552 +>>57891541 +But that’s the point you were originally making before that other anon came or have we forgotten that part now? +--- 57891557 +>>57891544 +I suppose, contrarianism is one hell of a drug. Its even more sadder that organizations take advantage of contrarianism to make a profit(CNN with trump and fox with biden) +--- 57891559 +>>57891552 +Huh? +One anon argued that cumulative aid is meaningless due to the Cold War favoring the US giving aid to Israel. I made a simple counter that they should back up their assertion by taking into account cumulative aid AFTER the cold war ended and saying where Israel ranks on that. + +What the fuck does your pdf have to do with the conversation at hand, brainlet? +--- 57891565 +>>57891529 +Lel, I remember /pol/niggers coming on to /his/ and saying how Slavs are subhuman etc. +And then the second this war kicked off then suddenly Russia is a white and totally non-subhuman country. +--- 57891571 +>>57891559 +Just because the cd war ended does not remove US interests in the middle east. It doesn't help that russia(even after the fall of the soviet union) still support US adversaries in the middle east. +--- 57891579 +>>57891571 +What interest does the US have in giving Israel over 150 billion? +America made way more unnecessary enemies by helping Israel than if they just stayed neutral. +--- 57891581 +>>57891559 +If you're gonna use the post-cild war argument then ask yourself what could have POSSIBLY motivated the US to keep aiding Israel? +You seriously can't remember ANY event that happened in the region after '91? None at all? +--- 57891587 +>>57891581 +>what could have POSSIBLY motivated the US to keep aiding Israel? +AIPAC and other Jews in America. +--- 57891593 +>>57891559 +That they havnt given that much in over all compared to everything else in foreign aid spending and that they’re probably one of the few stable countries not openly hostile to the US (yes yes 9/11 Jews melt steel beams),it’s in their interest to send them aid in conjunction with aid sent to other allies in the area and focusing solely on Israel is just silly. +--- 57891595 +>>57891579 +>What interest does the US have in giving Israel over 150 billion? +It gains them a stable, reliable and powerful partner in the region you fucking mongoloid. + + +Why don't you obsess over how much money the saudis got from the west, while actively funding international Islamic terrorists? Isn't it the same thing? +--- 57891597 +>>57891579 +Arab countries are really unstable and there are too many crackpot dictators that recieved weapons from the soviet union. The U.S. is continuing aid specifically because one of the countries that has strong ties over the U.S. and a cd war ally. +--- 57891605 +>>57891587 +Yeah that’s probably part of it +--- 57891610 +>>57891593 +>compared to everything else in foreign aid spendin +I don't even know what you mean by this. You've said this several times already. +>>57891595 +>Why don't you obsess over how much money the saudis got from the west +Simple, cause the Saudis got less and they have way less influence on American foreign policy. +>>57891597 +Of course they're unstable when America fucking collapses them all the time. +Iraq wasn't unstable until Saddam died. Syria wasn't unstable until America decided to fund all the Sunni niggers in the area. +--- 57891616 +>>57891587 +You seriously can't think of any significant events that happened in that region? +--- 57891617 +>>57891610 +That in comparison to the grand total amount in the last near century the amount sent specifically to Israel isnt is not an anomaly. +--- 57891618 +>>57891579 +Because Israel has friendly ties with the U.S. and its more stable and powerful? Its either continuing aid on a stable country or find a new ally that cannot guarantee will be able to cooperate due to ties from the cold war. +--- 57891627 +>>57891610 +>the Saudis got less and they have way less influence on American foreign policy. +HAHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH + +oh wow what a fucking brain-dead retard we have over here +>got less +Yeah, if you don't count the oil we purchased from them, or the literal armies worth of armaments we sold to them, or the training, etc. +--- 57891633 +>>57891610 +>Of course they're unstable when America fucking collapses them all the time. +Oh yeah, because fucking Saddam wasn't an agressive nigger at all. +--- 57891634 +>>57891610 +Hilariously Israel didn’t even get the most in 2020 +--- 57891636 +>>57891616 +I'm not gonna keep giving you (You)'s if you're playing coy like this all the time. +What are you referring to? 9/11? That's Al Quaeda, nothing to do with Israel. Unless you're trying to say the Jews were behind it? +Invasion of Kuwait? Nothing to do with Israel. +>>57891627 +Yeah, I don't count business as "aid". If you buy oil that doesn't mean you give Saudi's aid. If Saudis buy weapons that doesn't mean you give them aid. + + +Also I'm getting 10000 (You)'s now and I can't reply to all of you. +--- 57891637 +>>57891610 +>Of course they're unstable when America fucking collapses them all the time. +>Iraq wasn't unstable until Saddam died. Syria wasn't unstable until America decided to fund all the Sunni niggers in the area. +Then they shouldn't have made deals with the soviets and be retarded. Saddam was a retard that ultimately got himself invaded due to the antics he pulled. Even if he was a neccessary evil, he was still a retard that tried to maintain the strongman image until the invasion happened. But arab nations have ties with american adversaries, Israel is the only country that is stable and has stronger ties with america than any middle eastern country. +--- 57891640 +>>57891636 +You ignored my response +>>57891617 +--- 57891650 +>>57891637 +Saddam was a retard, but on what planet did the 2004 invasion of Iraq benefit America in any way? You just created a ruined country that entered Iran's sphere of influence. +>>57891640 +Yeah I can't reply to all of you at this point. +Your point is retarded anyway. +If you compare the entire government spending to any one thing then it's gonna appear small. +--- 57891660 +>>57891650 +It isn’t ALL government spending it’s specifically foreign aid, which is what your complaints about, of which they aren’t even the recent highest receipient nor have they been an anomaly given how much they give out. +--- 57891661 +>>57891650 +>Saddam was a retard, but on what planet did the 2004 invasion of Iraq benefit America in any way? You just created a ruined country that entered Iran's sphere of influence. +Because its either america invading iraq or other middle eastern countries because of how tired they are of saddams shit. If the post invasion was better planned, then there wouldn't be secular infighting and iraq would have been relatively rebuilt without all the blood shed. But saddam did it to himself and he was trying to be a strongman when 9/11 was still fresh in america's mind. +--- 57891666 +>>57891636 +>What are you referring to? 9/11? That's Al Quaeda, nothing to do with Israel. Unless you're trying to say the Jews were behind it? +>Invasion of Kuwait? Nothing to do with Israel. + + +So you seriously can't thing of any reason WHY the US would like to have a stable and militarily powerful ally in a region in which they have a marmssice interest in? None at all? +--- 57891672 +>>57891650 +>planet did the 2004 invasion of Iraq benefit America in any way? +Blooding the military, testing equipment, doctrine, making billions in oil and resources, removing an openly hostile element to the us in said Middle East and asserting that in conventional warfare the US is still dominate, country building not so much +--- 57891680 +>>57891660 +I've been over this retarded shit already. I can't repeat myself a thousand times. +>>57891661 +That's a hypothetical based on nothing. +>>57891666 +If the US wanted to have a stable and militarily powerful allies then it would invest in all of them more or less equally. +It picked a side in a ME conflict and made enemies for no reason. Then it went and subverted half a dozen countries and promoted sectarian conflicts all over the place. + +America's foreign policy is what created the problems that you're claiming is the reason for the aid to Israel. +--- 57891683 +>>57891650 +>but on what planet did the 2004 invasion of Iraq benefit America in any way? +It removed a violent and warlike retard from the region. As the other anon said, it was either going to be the US or someone else who invaded him eventually. +--- 57891687 +>>57891680 +Yes you continue to ignore the answer to your question +--- 57891693 +>>57891687 +What answer to what question? +--- 57891695 +>>57891680 +>If the US wanted to have a stable and militarily powerful allies then it would invest in all of them more or less equally. +And who pray tell? +Iran? With it's extremely hostile extremist government? +The Saudis? +Syrians? +What you don't understand is that none of those countries can be relied on to have an effective military or intelligence apparatus like the Israelis do. +--- 57891698 +>>57891680 +No the vast history of invasion and instability of the Middle East caused those problems, blaming the us is ignoring 100’s of years of history diff --git a/k/57885724.txt b/k/57885724.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..675ba2260ae9b7097866da3f04c568e89c3c3d40 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57885724.txt @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +----- +--- 57885724 +So why hasn't there been a mag pouch/mag holder that you secure to the grip of a handgun? There has to be some ergonomic workaround. +--- 57885860 +>>57885724 (OP) +the grip of a handgun is literally a magazine holder you absolute mental midget +--- 57885864 +>>57885724 (OP) +spbp +--- 57886879 +>>57885724 (OP) +I guess you could tie a pouch to the lanyard ring and let it hang loose. +--- 57887487 +ENTER: +--- 57888635 +>>57885860 +Doesn't count and doesn't answer the question, smoothbrain. +--- 57888722 +>>57885724 (OP) +If you've ever held a gun you would know why you idiot +--- 57888743 +>>57888722 +>take CC midget pistol that is almost too tiny for hand +>tape mag to grip +>???? +>Profit diff --git a/k/57886535.txt b/k/57886535.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b66655ed01237a47d0fb4f3d0d258aa644866797 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57886535.txt @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ +----- +--- 57886535 +Why is the current Polish camo, so bad? + +Can it offer a tactical advantage? +--- 57886571 +It's not bad, it's probably good +--- 57886573 +>>57886535 (OP) +>Why is the current Polish camo, so bad? +Slavs have low IQ +--- 57886583 +>>57886573 +Untrue +--- 57888225 +>>57886535 (OP) +What happened to MAPA? +--- 57888489 +>>57888225 +It looked interesting. diff --git a/k/57886596.txt b/k/57886596.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0504fcda9247acc6440dda2914fd43f34764b6f1 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57886596.txt @@ -0,0 +1,121 @@ +----- +--- 57886596 +how do I cope with never serving? + +Ive been trying to join the Army since 2020. First I dealt with covid shutting everything down, then I had a reaction to the vaccines that gave me kidney failure, and most recently I took the ASVAB, and was holding out for my desired MOS. The recruiter said he doesnt have any openings for it and I should take something else, then I can reclass in 2 years. This is the third office ive dealt with and I finally just gave up. I have a job offer thats too good to pass up, so I finally had to put it to bed. +Ive had this dream since I was a kid and never thought id be a never serve, and part of me will always be ashamed that I couldnt experience it. +--- 57886618 +>>57886596 (OP) +Cope by having all of your limbs and not being scared of fireworks +--- 57886637 +>>57886596 (OP) +If you want a non-meme answer, cope by realizing that you won't be spending an enormous chunk of the next four years doing absolutely stupid busy work designed for anyone with a pulse to be able to do. Something that the brovets will never tell you is that even in the USAF there's a lot of janitorial bullshit enlisted have to put up with, poor management, and just sucky conditions. This is all a lot better if you're an officer but now you get to babysit 20 year old children +--- 57886640 +>>57886618 +>not being scared of fireworks +Not even real +--- 57886712 +>>57886596 (OP) +It sounds like you just don’t know how to deal with recruiters. What MOS are you trying to sign up for? Is it some special snowflake shit? Walk into any Marine recruiting office and ask for an Infantry contract and you’ll be in boot camp within 2 weeks. Provided you’re healthy and decently athletic. + +THEN you’ll have to cope with possibly never even deploying. Pretty much no combat guaranteed. Then you’ll discover that GWOT vets are the most insufferable fucks on the face of the planet. Constantly telling fluffed up stories about how they got their bullshit CAR, or whatever the Army equivalent is. +--- 57886726 +the army/military is big gay now. Well, moreso than usual. You postres band of brothers becuase the military has fetishied ww2 since 1946. Notice how they havent done that for any other war, unless you count generation kill which in an of itself was supposed to be ironic.This sint your grandpas army, or even your older brothers army anyone. Shit is bad in here right now and your government hates you. Dont fight for them +--- 57886753 +>>57886712 +>You don’t know what combat is like, my generation got real deployments + +His deployment- Arty round landed km’s away from a fob while he was jacking off to some porno mags and falling asleep on watch like a dumb boot, whole unit awarded combat action ribbons as a result. + +Or the newest Bach, dudes from 2/1 over in Horno. Get blown up because you suck at maintaining a cordon, come back home with some chest candy and talk about it like it was the damn frozen chosen.. +--- 57886829 +>>57886596 (OP) +Join the reserves nigger, you can still serve and work a successful civi career. The reserves is gau, coming from a guy who served in the reserves for 8 years and will probably return in some capacity, but join the reserves to scratch the itch +--- 57886834 +>>57886726 +>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords +--- 57887666 +its counter productive to join the military these days. The woke bullshit is only part of the problem, we're not meeting the criteria for any standard of living anymore. You would never be rich in the military (unless you got some serious rank after 20+ years of service), but you could at least have a stable lifestyle and maybe give your kids a leg up. Not anymore. +Just like whats going on the civilian world, people are just giving up +>nobody wants to work +>everyone is too lazy to join the military +two sides of the same coin. The difference is once you enlist you cant quit for 3-6 years, and thats why so many are killing themselves +--- 57887688 +>>57886596 (OP) +>how do I cope with never serving? +Become a musician. Kek. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pjdRTKxrWI [Embed] +--- 57887787 +>>57886596 (OP) +99.99% of military men will never do anything particularly interesting or see combat. +--- 57887831 +I don't think the military is actually that woke. Sexes are still separated, grooming standards haven't changed a ton from the forties, trannies are basically a no-go unless they completely submit medically and socially to their CoC which is usually a raw deal. I heard some bad shit about females in combat units in deployment before, but idk if that got sorted or not. Sure, you get a powerpoint on diversity or something, but you're not exactly at the YMCA. If there was ever a reason not to join, it's the infantilization, shit pay, lack of shit to do, and potential medical complications later on in life, not the presence of a gay flag on a projector slide. + +People join because they want to do interesting shit, and many do get to, but many also end up glorified jannies or office workers which sucks donkey dick. Still, could be cool. +--- 57888767 +I quite enjoyed the technology but /k/ aren't (mostly) techies, they're mostly autspergtards. + +A very fucking good reason is the early retirement after a mere 20 year vesting but there are maybe two or three retirees here besides me. The package is far more than they pay table suggests and only government jobs have decent retirements in 2023, a tiny few unions excepted. +--- 57888772 +>>57886829 +nah, even better OP. +>buy guns +>buy quality camping gear +>join a militia if there is one close by +>hike with bros, shoot guns, exercise and larp + +you'll scratch that itch without the other gay stuff you do in the infantry 99% of the time. You'll get better equipment too +--- 57888791 +>>57886596 (OP) +Anon literally just go check in on the recruiting office every other month. Go take the civilian job you want for now, and if you want to drop it for your desired MOS go for it. + +>>57886712 +Kek, I agree anon. I was in serious firefights in 2019 (nobody here seems to remember Syria existed) and my Platoon actually killed people. Some fag E-7 in my new unit said I had a bullshit CIB, found out his was from a mortar round landing on his FOB in Afghanistan almost a decade ago. Mine was because I cut a faggot in half with an M2 on the Northern FLOT in Syria :^( +--- 57888807 +>>57887666 +Why does "woke bullshit" always end up a stand in for "people I just don't like because I can't stop thinking about them" +>>57887831 +Yeah, anons are acting like the 20 minutes a year you spend on "don't call people niggers, Private" training is particularly strenuous or time consuming (or in reality, more than you just checking a list and saying you were totally there for the brief) +--- 57888852 +wait and see how this stuff with taiwan and ukraine pan out over the next few months. Best case scenario its a nothing burger, worst case scenario its ww3 and you'll get drafted. + +the BEST case scenario, ww3 kicks off and you wait a year while the current servicemembers get slaughtered and command gets their shit organized +>be my great grandpa +>pearl harbor happens when hes 17 +>grandpa thinks "wtf, I gotta go fight the japs" +>his father wont sign off on it, tell him to wait and see how it plays out before choosing where he goes +>a neighbor kid he grew up with goes and fights on some godforsaken jungle hellhole nobody remembers +>grandad joins the airforce and fights in europe instead +>gets all the luxuries of Europe and European pussy in-between dropping bombs on the germans + +all in all he said he quite enjoyed the war, if he was in some shit like Guadalcanal or Okinawa he might have felt differently +--- 57889309 +>>57886726 +this +war isnt glorious, especially now. I grew up hard on war movies and video games, but its all propaganda. Id much sooner go to jail for dodging the draft then I would go get my face blown off in drone-grenade tik tok video for reddit +--- 57889467 +>>57888772 +Larping in the woods will literally never feels the same as actually serving. +--- 57889755 +>>57886596 (OP) +I “cope” with the reality that they wouldn’t let me for being nuts. That’s their problem if being medicated as a kid is like a zero-tolerance disqualifier. I tried getting into Air Force then navy then army and they all showed me away. +--- 57889770 +>>57886596 (OP) + +Go to Ukraine and join the Foreign Legion, faggot. +--- 57889801 +>>57889770 +Most people can't motivate themselves to fight for a foreign army it's like straight people that do gay porn for money then kill themselves +--- 57890327 +>>57888852 +If your grandfather served on bombers in Europe, he was actually in greater danger than even island-hopping marines in the Pacific +--- 57890405 +>>57889801 +>Most people can't motivate themselves to fight for a foreign army it's like straight people that do gay porn for money then kill themselves + +Nigger, this tallboi here was born with a silver spoon up his ass, basically quasi-royalty, his family is that fucking rich. He left it all behind to come to a land he has never set foot in before and defend innocent women and children from godless foreign invaders. + +If he could do it, so can you. +--- 57890443 +>>57890405 +He was a religious fundamentalist I masturbate 3 times a day and couldn't even find Ukraine on a map before the war started diff --git a/k/57886612.txt b/k/57886612.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e7169f7a5db26d12120aece0720cbfe3b87fe5a1 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57886612.txt @@ -0,0 +1,116 @@ +----- +--- 57886612 +Rate my K-bar +--- 57886624 +it's a boy +--- 57886654 +>>57886612 (OP) +It's pretty gay because it's the same blue used in the tranny flag +--- 57886663 +>>57886612 (OP) +>Lumpy looking finish on the blade +>gapping at the guard +>flamboyant colored handle +>Star Wars font +>clearly never been used + +Gaybar/10 but it will keal. +--- 57886676 +>>57886612 (OP) +i dislike ka bar for rat tail tangs +--- 57886727 +>>57886654 +>>57886663 +You are unhinged +--- 57886744 +K Bar = gay bar +--- 57886778 +>>57886727 +You spent $130+ on a "Space Force" meme knife and call others unhinged... Lel +--- 57886978 +>>57886612 (OP) +It looks like it was built on friday. I hope you didnt pay MSRP for it. I only spent $120-$130 for all of mines, all with sheaths +--- 57888100 +>>57886654 +rent free +--- 57888113 +>>57888100 +If you are a tranny and you own guns I suggest you hand yourself in now before any innocent people get hurt +--- 57888120 +>>57886654 +No that's more of a powder blue, that knife is sky blue. If you say that looks the same to you, you didn't own a big box of crayons as a kid. +--- 57888152 +based cyan +--- 57888165 +>>57888152 +Not enough green to be cyan. +--- 57888221 +>>57888165 +it is definitely cyan anon +--- 57888229 +How about Trans-Bar amirite guys. +--- 57888248 +Needs Semper Fidelis on the blade in sharpie +--- 57888253 +>>57888229 +is this what they perform the surgeries with? +--- 57888262 +>>57886612 (OP) +it's very nice, anon. not gay at all. +--- 57888724 +>>57886612 (OP) +--- 57888934 +>>57886612 (OP) + +Its pretty cool I guess. Not really, idk. + +I have a weird knife. A crkt minimalist Cthulu. Same color as your knife but not faggy because it has The Old One on it. Its my neck knife that I wear when I down at the beach bars. +--- 57888958 +I have one. I love it. It the second most gay knife I own +--- 57889124 +>>57888934 +What do you even do with a knife that small? +--- 57889199 +This is my 3rd most gay knife +/knife general/ or what? +--- 57889261 +>>57888724 +lmao was going to post this +--- 57889279 +>>57888934 +Go back to plebbit, faggot. +--- 57889292 +>>57886612 (OP) +--- 57889298 +>tranny colour +--- 57889299 +>>57886612 (OP) +You’re a big guy +--- 57889339 +Ordered a kydex sheath for my Morakniv Companion, I have a fuckton of knives but I love my Companion's rubber grip, my old edc knife was a Boker Epic, it was a gorgeous knife but the grip was slippery as fuck. +--- 57889408 +>>57888253 +--- 57889919 +>>57888152 +why did you censor your laptop power supply +--- 57890483 +>>57889919 +good opsec = easy opsec = not attempting the performance of trying to determine whether small text is revealing or not and instead just taking a second to blob it out +--- 57890685 +>>57889124 +circumcisions +--- 57890691 +>>57886663 +>Gaybar +kek +--- 57890701 +>>57886612 (OP) +Out of this world +--- 57890707 +>>57890691 +https://youtu.be/-XNFokmDKrE [Embed] +--- 57890792 +>>57886612 (OP) +M7 Bayonet is superior +--- 57891451 +KM2K is better than some gey bar. diff --git a/k/57886790.txt b/k/57886790.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6088e50cd385f796a1df2f3d7422b17107e7ee46 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57886790.txt @@ -0,0 +1,306 @@ +----- +--- 57886790 +Has there ever been a single recorded instance where 5 or 6 shots wasn’t enough. I’m not talking about a time when a defender used more than that, but a time when someone only had 5/6 shots and either had no reload or couldn’t reload fast enough and got fucked up for it. + +People on /k/ talk about it has a hypothetical, but I literally don’t know a single time it’s actually happened. +--- 57886832 +There was one occasion where a weird gunstore owner shot like, 120 rounds against 5 armed assailants, but that story seemed like there was a fuckload more to it than stated. +--- 57886842 +>>57886790 (OP) +I mean, it's probably happened. But for most people the chances of needing a gun at all are low. The chances of needing to fire it are really low. The chances of needing to fire it more than once are really, really low. Carry whatever you like with confidence. +--- 57886862 +>>57886790 (OP) +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shooting +shot 5 times, hitting 4 negroes,1 shot twice, all survived with minor brain damage +--- 57886871 +2009 Baghdad Iraq, late March + +RCP convoy stopped to investigate a suspected IED on MSR1 when the team dismounted to get a better look at what our buffalo had dug out of the sand alongside the highway the convoy was rushed by two guys wearing the latest fashion from H.M.E. in a stylish vest. First one went down under a burst from one of the gun truck's 240. the second took 13 rounds before he went to meet Allah empty handed, and headed. + +If you don't have the ammo to end the threat and have to reload, it's already too late. +--- 57886876 +https://youtu.be/pdjcYjSsIok [Embed] +--- 57886946 +>>57886790 (OP) +--- 57886948 +>>57886871 +I was specifically asking about concealed carriers. I wouldn’t carry a snub nose .38 to a fucking warzone except for executing Vietcong +--- 57886987 +>>57886790 (OP) +https://www.police1.com/officer-shootings/articles/why-one-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job-clGBbLYpnqqHxwMq/ +Guy got shot 14 times with a .45 +Took a round to the heart, liver, both lungs, still up and fighting for over a minute until cop shoots him point blank in the face three times. +--- 57887013 +>>57886948 +>I was specifically asking +No you weren't, you didnt mention conceal carry at all. +--- 57887048 +>>57887013 +I meant to, my bad. I assumed “defender” implied I was talking about self defense not police or military shooting. +>>57886946 +The only one where running out of ammo was a serious problem was the first, but it sounds like that’s in part because she wasted ammo on warning shots and also had an underpowered firearm for the shots that remained +--- 57887065 +>>57886946 +>shot in the chest +>wasted the first rounds on warning shots +>.22 + +>she dialed 911 +>No answer + +>hit the intruder 5 times +>not incapacitated + +what the fuck +--- 57887083 +>>57886790 (OP) +If you go off FBI Statistics, most citizen involved shootings are resolved favorably by the defender in 6 or less shots. - Quote from a Paul Harrell video. +Now that being fucking said. Why the hell would you want to go with the 'bare minimum', especially when your life is on the line? I don't care how good you are, how fast you are with a speedloader, how much you love wheelgats (I do too), or if you carry a .454 Casul and can shoot down 3 nogs in a single shot. At the end of the day carrying the extra 9 rounds might not matter, but I don't put my life on the line for 'might'. + +Not saying don't carry a revolver. Not saying you can't resolve an incident with a revolver. Not saying revolvers are bad. But there's a reason why you don't see any modern police or military force seriously using revolvers anymore. But if it's your revolver or your limp dick in your hand? Carry a revolver. If you have omega autism and cannot be swayed by any good arguments? Carry a revolver. More often than not just drawing the weapon is enough of a deterrent. +--- 57887112 +>>57886790 (OP) +The FBI shootout where they got fucked because they were reloading, and the California highway patrol shootout both come to mind. Anecdotally I've also spoken with a bunch of NYPD guys who told me stories of guys getting ventilated while trying to reload. +--- 57887178 +>>57887083 +Personally my most common carry pistol right now is a jframe because I need to be sure I don’t print while pocket carrying and I don’t know a good way to waistband carry with a tucked shirt. My work doesn’t know I carry and I don’t plan on telling them. +--- 57887180 +>>57886790 (OP) +>single recorded instance +yes +--- 57887209 +>>57886948 +Just an example from personal experience mate. + +People tend not to get into a conflict beyond the means of defense they carry. If I only have a revolver and 6 shots plus whatever is in my pocket I am going to approach a conflict very differently than if I'm in full kit with a 30 round mag ready to go and 7 more of his closest friends on standby. + +I do carry a backup LC9 while out and about but even that is 7+1 and It took a good day at the range to find a hollow point that it liked to run. I could just as easily replace that with a .38 special but it's going to be in addition to my standard carry. +--- 57887247 +>>57887178 +Bersa Thunder 380 is what I suggest when people ask. It's aesthetic as fuck and has literally everything needed to raw-dog in a pocket or whatever you want. DA/SA with a decocker and firing pin blocker safety. +--- 57887253 +No mention of Miami shootout??? I’m disappointed. +--- 57887269 +>>57886790 (OP) +>Has there ever been a single recorded instance where 5 or 6 shots wasn’t enough. +Yeah when you miss every time. +--- 57887279 +>>57886862 +I mean you're right but at the same time, it accomplished his goal of stopping the mugging. Yeah they didn't die but I bet they wish they had. +--- 57887357 +>>57887083 +Because I'd rather wield a more reliable shooting iron with unmatched ergos and pointing that fires a cartridge more than able to make the most of each shot +I do agree with the sentiment that it's not for most (especially modern police) due to the practice required, but for a true gunfighter the SAA is peerless +--- 57887448 +>>57886948 +See +>>57877001 → +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur99LSWNxFA [Embed] +6 shots for a single threat. If that had been a revolver, and if there had been even one more person there who also needed to be shot you'd already be empty and needing to reload vs being somewhere between 1/3rd to 1/2 of a mag left on the most popular semi's. Pistols kinda suck at putting people down, revolvers included. +--- 57887533 +>>57887065 +>hit the intruder 5 times +>not incapacitated +that is correct, you cannot rely on a pistol to immediately incapacitate with just a few shots. We've all seen vids of cops failing to put someone down, sometimes it's due to poor accuracy, but sometimes it's not. And those are with 40S&W full size service pistols with the best ammo available. Your average 38spl revolver or 3.5-inch 9mm carry pistol will perform much worse, especially when wielded by someone who isnt a great shot. + +I dont recommend revolvers or small 9mm pistols for home defense. they're fine for carry, where one can move around and get yourself safe. For HD you are trapped. You want more capacity and (preferably) to use that to get to a long gun. +--- 57887677 +>>57886832 +Is there any account of those events that isn't from Masad Ayoob? I know his account of the events with that Rolex store owner were definitely embellished vs what other sources say went down. Particularly the instance that had the store owner pulling 3 different guns and emptying them at 3 different attackers, when other accounts have it as the store owner and another employee both drawing a gun (which is massively more believable considering how shootings normally play out). +--- 57887735 +>>57886790 (OP) +https://youtu.be/Q83tTLjbAtE [Embed] +Rare, but it happens. There were at least 2 cases in this video that I remember where the defender unloaded a six piece and had/tried to run away when it didn't stop their attackers +--- 57887755 +>>57886790 (OP) +I saw a webm on here recently of a store getting robbed +the thug and the security guard(?) had revolvers +the 6 shots was barely enough to kill the robber who gave in to blood loss and collapsed in the doorway trying to flee but he absolutely would have killed the security guard had he more than six shots as he was clearly not counting shots standing over the guard trying to empty an empty cylinder into the guard's head for a solid couple of seconds before giving up and running + +what I'm trying to say is that you should make sure you have enough to get the job done and then some in the worst case scenario +--- 57887756 +>>57886790 (OP) +pic related was pretty close +--- 57887761 +>>57887083 +>Why the hell would you want to go with the 'bare minimum', especially when your life is on the line? +No one asks what the minimum to be effective is because they want to make it a point to pick a gun as close to the bare minimum as possible you fucking spastic. They ask to see if the gun they like and want to shoot meets those standards. If someone likes and wants to shoot a revolver, there's zero reason for them to spend time and money to maintain effectiveness with a second min-maxier gun that they don't enjoy nearly as much rather than just using the gun they like and want to practice regularly with. +--- 57887776 +>revovlerfags argue you don't NEEED more than 6 rounds +>revolverfags completely ignore the fact that you dont NEEED a gun when the likelihood of needing one at all is incredibly low +--- 57887803 +>>57887761 +theres never a situation where im like "gee, I wish I had a revolver right now". if you miss three or four rounds due to stress (or firing warning/early shots through doorways) you only have 2 to stop the threat. + +people like revolvers because they're cool, not because they're good. they're dogshit +--- 57887822 +>>57887735 +>There were at least 2 cases in this video that I remember where the defender unloaded a six piece and had/tried to run away when it didn't stop their attackers +There's 1 case where a guy shows the attackers that he really doesn't want to use the gun and fucks around, and a second case where the attackers are literally on top of the guy with their hands on his gun trying to get it away from him before he has even fired every round in it and with one even succeeding at wrestling the gun away from him for a few seconds. +--- 57887863 +>>57887803 +>theres never a situation where im like "gee, I wish I had a revolver right now" +The reality is that for all the "I wish I had" that people like to talk about, the real "I wish I had" for anyone with knowledge and experience is going to be "I wish I had a gun that I practiced so much with that I'll still perform excellently with under extreme stress and I wish I had it NOW". Whatever gun meets that criteria depends on the person and what they personally want to get to the range with because they enjoy shooting it. +--- 57887883 +>>57887863 +yeah you're right I want something with a 12lb trigger pull, only 6 rounds, and muzzle flash at night due to cylinder gap. fucking great. + +how do you feel about black powder for HD? lets apply your retarded ass argument to that for a second. +--- 57887888 +>>57887013 +You're autistic +--- 57887971 +I feel like people take for granted how retard proof revolvers are, you just point and shoot. No safety to fumble with, no worrying about limpwristing or riding the slide with your support hand, you just point it at the cunt and pull the trigger. +--- 57887973 +>>57887761 +You'll note that later in my post I said that if you're a hardset retard and don't actually care about actual arguments then a revolver is fine. If it's between a revolver and nothing take a revolver. I just want you to acknowledge that you aren't actually using a real argument to counter my points and are doing something that's DECIDEDLY suboptimal for no other reason than your feelings. 6 rounds is in most circumstances enough, but there are subcompacts and other guns that are better in literally every way. + +>>57887863 +If that's what your schtick is then fine. Just know that you're intentionally gimping yourself on Ammo Capacity, Reload Speed, and a lot of other things to make that decision. Personally after the Summer of Love I don't think 6 rounds is enough. Revolvers still do kill people though. +--- 57888074 +>>57887883 +>muzzle flash at night due to cylinder gap +That makes no difference in the ability to acquire the target and aim the gun. Same goes for ported guns. Have you ever fired either at night, or did you just repeat what you read somewhere? +--- 57888141 +>>57887357 +>unmatched ergos and pointing + +t. nogunz +--- 57888256 +>>57886790 (OP) +Kyle Odom +Not a revolver but it wasn't enough anyways +--- 57888442 +>>57886946 +>that description of the Susan Gonzalez case that leaves out how the second attacker who shot here was fighting with her husband and how she wasn't confident shooting him without hitting he husband anyways +>running out of ammo made zero difference in the other 2 cases as the situations had already been resolved +--- 57888537 +>>57887883 +>>57887973 +So what do you drive anons? If you're so obsessed with crazy rare outlier situation where you could die that you feel you need to sideline shooting guns you enjoy to train for these crazy rare situations, I expect nothing but the newest vehicles with best crash safety ratings you can afford rather than any personal preference coming into play. +--- 57888563 +>>57888537 +>It's fun to shoot with +Anon, if your life depends on this gun, you need to get over this hang up +--- 57888625 +>>57888563 +>he didn't answer the question +--- 57888668 +>>57888625 +I drive a pickup truck, not a race car or dune buggy. Stop being a faggot. I have to deal with anti-gunners who want to ban all semi-autos and you're making their argument. +--- 57888734 +>>57888668 +>you're making their argument. +What argument is that? That practice is more important than specs in real world scenarios and that people are more willing to drop the money to put in more practice if they're shooting a gun that they particularly like? +--- 57888803 +>>57888734 +>all you need is a revolver, sonny +>plus 16 hours mandatory training class before you get your license +--- 57888817 +>>57886790 (OP) +Moro rebellion. The US service revolvers were ineffective against the Moro Juramentados +--- 57889010 +>>57888803 +>guns can't be fun, and you can't use guns that are practical for anything you may realistically come across because politics +--- 57889094 +>>57887448 +This kind of shooting is different from a civilian shooting though. Police have to stick around to make an arrest. As a concealed carrier you could’ve just fucked off after he went down the first time. That’s what I would’ve done anyways. +--- 57889148 +>>57887776 +Refuted your own argument +--- 57889214 +>>57886790 (OP) +Why are you trying to justify carrying fewer rounds? What are you going to do when it turns out you did need more than 6? +--- 57889268 +>>57887776 +I see this get posted a lot, but it's always bullshit because DGUs happen thousands of times every year, yet I have never heard of a single case across multiple decades in which a private citizen was injured or killed in a DGU specifically because they ran out of ammo after firing 5-6 rounds. There's a big difference between planning for something that is very rare, and planning for something that has simply never happened. +--- 57889323 +>>57886790 (OP) +I keep hearing from the people that want to ban double digit magazines you only need a few because the national average of successful self defense shootings were with just a few rounds. But you want to look at 95th percentile not average (50 percentile), for example if you made doorways tall enough people of average height of a person, making a door too short for people taller than 5"5'-ish. The question is do you want to be prepared for 50 percent of scenarios or not. + +I conceal carry the same a 5 shot revolver in OP's picture when I'm on my rural property. I do it for the following: +- easy to conceal +- very good weight/caliber trade off (e.g. semi-autos that light are typically .380 auto) +- I can have a shot shell in first chamber (for rattle snakes and other pests) and .38 special +P in the other 4. +--- 57889380 +>>57888817 +They were using .38 Colt back then. The Moro rebellion incident and .38 colt not being able to penetrate wooden shields lead to the invention of .38 special (to my knowledge a .38 colt revolver can shoot a black powder.38 special round). People tweaking .38 special to be hotter rounds then lead to 357 Magnum (which is why 357 Magnum revolvers can shoot .38 special as well). +--- 57889383 +>>57889268 +>but it's always bullshit because DGUs happen thousands of times every year, +It's especially bullshit when you realize that yearly DGU numbers are irrelevant to your chance of defending yourself with a gun, as they are just the probability of there being overlap between people who are carrying a gun and people who violent criminals tried to victimize. If you're carrying a gun, then you've already self selected yourself into that first group, and your personal chance of being in a DGU is about the same as your chance of being targeted by a violent criminal minus a bit if you have poor situational awareness. +--- 57889486 +>>57886876 +FUCKING GAMESTOP +--- 57889506 +>>57886790 (OP) +Bro it happens all the fucking time. Cops deal with it constantly when methed up degenerates take entire magazines and keep running. +--- 57889507 +>>57886862 +>with minor brain damage +How would you be able to tell? +--- 57889585 +>>57889507 +>Things is, they were brain damaged from the start. +--- 57889600 +>>57887065 +>hit the intruder 5 times +>not incapacitated +Regardless of what retarded 9mm fags will say, pistol calibers suck shit at killing. Sometimes you'll get a CNS kill with 1 shot, other times you dump 9 and nothing happens for minutes. These same people think 9mm, which penetrates poorly, will work considerably well for grizzly bears. + +.22lr is not intended for humans. It's a "get off me" round. Point blank. The fact they got shot is what stops the attack, not incapacitation from .22lr. Still, while 9mm is shit at killing, so are all easily shot and concealed pistol rounds, up to 454 casull. +--- 57889620 +This is a good post>>57887083 +--- 57889631 +>>57889010 +Stop being poor and buy different guns. +--- 57889656 +>>57886987 +Should we focus more on headshot training since it seems like adrenaline will keep the body going until the brain ceases function? Even with 17/18 round mags standard in 9mm, it seems like it’s not enough to just shoot at center mass. +--- 57890214 +>>57886790 (OP) +How exactly would you track down evidence of such a scenario? +Of course /k/ can't cite news articles showing examples of DGUs where the defender died because he ran out of bullets, news articles don't tend to report on the number of bullets fired or whether a defender was caught mid-reload when he got capped or how many assailants he was attacked by. All they'll report is that a guy got murdered in the street. +--- 57890639 +>>57887178 +Phlster enigma. Allows me to carry with a tucked in shirt with 0 printing. I do also carry a snubnose but it will work just as well with a pistol +--- 57890727 +>>57887756 +Isn't this video still from +>>57886946 +The second anecdote +--- 57890742 +>>57890727 +No idea for sure but it certainly fits all the details. +https://youtu.be/qMol7Jtn8p4 [Embed] +--- 57890765 +>>57886790 (OP) +https://youtu.be/brTo82LPrs4 [Embed] +--- 57890775 +>>57889656 +Mozambique drill my friend +--- 57890778 +>>57889600 +>These same people think 9mm, which penetrates poorly, +it goes pretty deep pretty fast. +you sound like an arm chair mall ninja +--- 57890848 +>>57886790 (OP) +Yes you fucking retard. +Just go look up a cops & robbers thread on /wsg +--- 57891081 +>>57889380 + +.38 Long Colt is shorter than .38 Special; you can fire a .38 LC out of a .38 Special but not vice versa. .38 LC had a lot of trouble stopping Moros even when emptied directly into them at short range; multiple verified reports of 6 direct center mass hits but the shooter was still chopped to bits by the Moro's machete right afterwards. It got so bad that the Army reissued SAAs from reserve stocks for .45 Colt stopping power, and directly influenced the development of the .45 ACP. +--- 57891297 +>>57886948 +--- 57891394 +>>57886842 +>t. Felon with six friends +--- 57891492 +>>57888668 +>>57888803 +So how many posters here who get anally devastated about revolvers or shotguns are faggots like this who can't stop thinking about politics? +--- 57891611 +>>57890778 +It doesn't penetrate nearly as well as 454 casull. diff --git a/k/57886810.txt b/k/57886810.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4fccf0df22fc24e1876b738a90e763180c513b2a --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57886810.txt @@ -0,0 +1,261 @@ +----- +--- 57886810 +Tiger Stripe edition + +Previous thread: >>57827396 → + +Lying about medical record: GOOD (YMMV) +Lying about criminal record: BAD + +>Resources: +>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ +http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga + +>Free ASVAB Practice Tests +https://www.asvabpracticetests.com/ + +>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020) +https://pastebin.com/yg972vRE (Short version) +https://pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (40 page version) + +>Special Forces Fitness Guide +http://specialforcesrecruiter.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/THOR3-10-Week-Program.pdf +http://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT%3A%20Every%20other%20day.,of%2040%20to%2050%20reps). + +>https://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.php +For all Army SF info. + +>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/ +>https://mega.nz/folder/ZQhQDLQA#SrCZyqNQiomnG4DsTzcNMg +Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS, as well study guides for ASTB-E + +>https://bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/ +Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance + +>Info on sf86 +https://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf + +>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothing +https://pastebin.com/yGzadpNZ + +>How can I get more college credits while I'm in without signing up for classes +CLEP/DSST information: +https://dantes.doded.mil/EducationPrograms/get-credit/creditexam.html + +>What is MHS GENESIS? +https://www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/MHS-Transformation/MHS-GENESIS +https://calmed.tricare.mil/Getting-Care/MHS-GENESIS-Patient-Portal +--- 57886878 +>>57886810 (OP) +Is that a CIF guy +--- 57887020 +Are there any /k/-approved jobs you can do as an accountant/CPA? Maybe as a government contractor or working for a PMC? The FBI is hiring accountoids but that's not as based. +--- 57887042 +>>57887020 +Law enforcement is really your best bet. Like you said the FBI hires a lot of accountants but other agencies do so as well +https://gs-1811.appspot.com/ +--- 57887050 +>>57886810 (OP) +So i accidentaly hit up a recruiter for the navy. +Could i get a waiver for being off of adhd medication for a year? +If i get in is Boatswains mate a good rate or should i pick something else? +--- 57887054 +>>57887050 +Why would you even tell them you took it? +--- 57887057 +>>57887050 +>Could i get a waiver for being off of adhd medication for a year? +yes +>BM +bad +--- 57887080 +>>57886810 (OP) +Will getting jaw surgery disqualify me from joining the AF reserves? I want job training, but I also don't want fish face. +--- 57887100 +>>57887054 +Genesis Dq'ed me in October when i tried to join the army. +>>57887057 +Excellent, now what are some good rates? +I've heard nothing but good things about the Seabees but i understand its a bit hard to land a slot +--- 57887117 +Thinking about reclassing into a dif mos either 17E or 35L. What would be best? In terms of future prospects as well as cool shit to do. I qualify for both +--- 57887130 +>>57887100 +Depends what you want. +--- 57887144 +Does the military take people with Tourrette's Syndrome? Piss eating jews death to Israel +--- 57887221 +Is joining the air force in mid 20s too late +--- 57887233 +Hello /k/ommandos + +My brother has a Computer Science degree, would like to pursue a different civilian career but also serve in the reserves as an officer, most likely something techincal/cool o do with Cyber or possibly Intel having to do with cyber. + +He's thinking: Navy Reserves, CA Air Nat Guard, CA Nat Guard, Army Reserves, Airforce Reserves, or Space Force Reserves(if they have Reserves) + +Anyone have any insight into a good route for someone with his degree (Computer Science, focus in networking), in their late 20s, and looking to serve as an Officer in the cyber/intel MOS field? Air Nat Guard was previously recommended (lol at current events) but there's much to look into. Anything he should know or keep in mind? +--- 57887242 +>>57886810 (OP) +How much trouble will I get in if my command learns I might have knocked up a local girl? I'm in an overseas base. +--- 57887282 +>>57886810 (OP) +bros, I had the same job as the dipshit who leaked those documents, worked in a unit that did the same thing as his but in a different location, and in fact enjoyed reading the same material he apparently did, though I wasn't retarded enough to upload them to the Internet. +AMA (unclassified obviously) +--- 57887320 +As Zoomer whose in community college getting my associates should I join the National Guard/Reverses while getting my bachelor's or should I got active duty for four years? +--- 57887360 +>>57886810 (OP) +How are we feeling about the new name changes to fort rucker? +--- 57887383 +>>57887221 +There is really nothing mid-20s is too late for. You don’t into “too late” territory until you’re 28+. +--- 57887425 +>>57887020 +How old are you? +--- 57887496 +>>57887282 +Do you prefer to suck cut or uncut cock? +--- 57887526 +>>57887496 +I don't discriminate; so long as they can get me a promotion I'll suck the soul out of them. +--- 57887746 +>>57887526 +Cool I prefer uncut +--- 57887810 +My driver's license, plates, and address are all Texas, but I'm currently working in Colorado and trying to enlist. +Will my SLR be Texas or Colorado? +--- 57888051 +What are the requirements to join a leet unit? +>5 minute mile +>300lbs deadlift +>100 push ups +>hitting your ASVAB books +What else? What do else do I need to learn? Is it just physical training? Im currently two months in and at 50 pushups, 180 deadlift and I can run for 5 minutes straight at the tradmill +--- 57888172 +>>57887425 +24 +--- 57888199 +>>57887144 +I don’t know but I do know if you join the infantry no one will know the difference +--- 57888216 +backpack or gym bag for meps? +--- 57888234 +>>57888051 +Literally don’t quit and don’t be a retard. Be able to be cold, tired, hungry and uncomfortable and still not nd your gun, be able to perform basic land navigation, fall asleep, etc. +--- 57888260 +>>57888051 +What unit? + +For a infantry style one like Rangers or SF the make and break application standards are typically: +-10 pullups in a row +-5 mile run in 35 minutes +-12 mile ruck with 50lb pack (dry) in <2.5 hours +-GT score over 115 +Once you meet those do the research and drop a packet. +--- 57888411 +>>57888216 +It doesn't matter, but most people have backpacks. +--- 57888582 +>>57887282 +Sounds like he's cooler than you, pussy +--- 57888600 +>>57887320 +>whose +--- 57888944 +>>57888582 +That's not a high bar to reach +--- 57889019 +Anyone have any experience getting any loans and using any military bonuses to invest in a business idea? After serving i want to use any veteran approved loans and bonuses to stay a business. I heard Rick Scott served in the Navy and when he got out he studied college and made a business. +--- 57889172 +>>57888051 +you have what it takes to join any leet unit in the US army, just send it dude +--- 57889188 +>>57889019 +Maybe you talk more to the loan issuing authority about this rather than a group of anonymous shitposters on a anime forum? + +You need to have some idea of what you're going to do and how you're going make a profit before anyone lends you money. You legitimately sound retarded. +--- 57889234 +>>57889019 +The smart play is do as I did and buy a cheap home on ample land zoned agricultural so you have no added overhead during formation of your business and can babysit it. Most small businesses don't survive but you won't lose your ass like a few of my peers. + +I did well enough not to need a business after retiring but if need be could open a multibrand motorcycle repair shop easily as I part-timed and helped out my mentor for many years. Far too many vets fail to live a comprehensively planned life set up so you can live comfortably WELL below your means. That gives you discretionary income for business investments or dragon dildi or whatever. +--- 57889524 +>>57887130 +I never want to be on a ship and stay on the land while mooching my boss so I can rank up and make more money in a laid back atmosphere +--- 57889575 +Redpill me on the Navy Reserves. My packet is being "processed" right now for officer. +--- 57889580 +>>57889524 +Then join the Army or the Air Force. If you don't be wanna be on a ship then avoid the Navy or Marines because it's guaranteed to happen at some point. +--- 57889583 +>>57889575 + +hope you like cocks +--- 57889601 +>>57889583 +>Be an O1 +LEL I would be king cock +Seriously though. +Any actual info, anon? +--- 57889672 +>>57889601 +--- 57889688 +>>57889580 +Felons arent allowed in the Air Force and The Army is the Gayest branch +--- 57889734 +I'm shipping next month for basic. Got questions: + +>How do I know if my boots fit? +>What are things smuggle-able into basic (I have eyedrops unaccounted for officially) +>How through is the eye exam in reception? Is it just to judge how thick lenses are? +>Is Sill comparatively more or less awful? +>How do I make myself blend in as much as possible? +--- 57889744 +>>57889688 +>The Army is the Gayest branch +It is now. Damn they seriously went full rainbow bright brigade. +--- 57889756 +>>57889734 +Here's a great video about your first shakedown. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXphA_6szKs [Embed] +--- 57889768 +I have a strange preoccupation with hazing. + +If I do Army infantry is there going to be hazing? + +I can be pushed to the end via exercise and yelled at. I even sparred a lot in boxing, and never got emotional because its just training. + +But I have gotten into fights for things that hurt a little like flicking my ear. + +If an NCO physically hurts me I don't know what I would do, but it would make me miserable. + +I am literally avoiding the Marine Corps because they have a reputation for hazing + +I know it seems like I have childhood trauma, but my parents never hit me. +--- 57889781 +>>57889768 +if they try to haze you just shoot them +--- 57890165 +>>57889768 +>If an NCO physically hurts me I don't know what I would do, but it would make me miserable. + + +We're not the Russian Army. NCOs don't physically harmful subordinates, and would have the book thrown at them for doing so. Real life isn't FMJ. + +For an NCO to beat your ass, you would have to start it because nobody is trying to lose a stripe over youe punk ass. +--- 57890920 +Anyone going to mini-OCS at the end of the month? I'm so excited. +--- 57890977 +>>57886878 +It’s probably just a GB on Opfor at JRTC. CIF/CRF were very high readiness, I don’t know if they regularly went to JRTC? +--- 57891114 +>>57890920 +What is mini OCS? Nobody calls anything that in the Army +--- 57891357 +>from a commonwealth country +>tries to apply to UK army +>recruitment has been closed for years +>tfw +--- 57891549 +>>57889688 +if not being gay matters you you shouldnt have committed crimes nigger diff --git a/k/57886860.txt b/k/57886860.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..545dc8d11b6a70cdd7caa9b694353493ac53972b --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57886860.txt @@ -0,0 +1,297 @@ +----- +--- 57886860 +Fren edition + +Git gud guide: https://bayfiles.com/96M9Ec9eue/ +Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik + +Previous Thread:>>57870615 → +--- 57887302 +Why do 1911’s suck so bad? +--- 57887408 +>>57887302 +They don’t nigger +--- 57887501 +What's the deal with 10mm? Why do people claim it's a bad round? The 'high recoil' component seems like a fucking meme to me. I easily 1-hand even compact 10mms. It hits faster and harder than .45 and has comparable ammo capacity to 9mm. The only downside is the ammo costs more. + +>Muh .40 Swishers and Watermelon. +Please neck yourself. If 10mm for me is already like shooting .25acp out of a full frame then why the hell do I need a less powerful round. Most 10mm is already loaded down compared to original spec. + +Am I just some recoil immune super autist? I even shoot that .44 magnum S&W Airlite PD thing and I think even that's 'shootable' if not a smidge unpleasant. The only truly 'ouch' gun I've ever shot was a 12ga with a 3 1/2 inch magnum, and I could soldier through if I had too. +--- 57887557 +>>57887501 +Dang. You’re cool. +--- 57887645 +>>57887557 +No I'm rarted. Just trying to figure out if it's an only me thing or if anybody else feels like they got psyoped. Pic rel +--- 57887651 +>>57887302 +yes they are bad now please stand aside so i can have them all as they are bad. +--- 57887927 +What revolver should I get and what caliber? I’d like it to be cut for moon clips if possible. +>already have a 9mm handgun +>own a model 10 in .38 special +>own a .458 socom ar +What do? I feel like .357 would be a nice side-upgrade to pair with the model 10, but then part of me thinks I should fill any caliber-specific gaps first. Think I should just get a bfr in .458? +--- 57888095 +>>57886860 (OP) +Does anyone have the Bladerunner LCR picture and/or know where I can get some translucent brown grips like that? +--- 57888128 +>>57887501 +post your 0.16s splits then fag +--- 57888131 +>>57887501 +10mm is overkill for people and you don't get any real benefit in terminal effect (when it comes to people) when you load it hotter than you can load .40, in which case its size inefficient and needlessly big. It definitely has a use in hunting and dangerous animal defense, but for antipersonnel use its either a bigger, heavier, more expensive .40 or a bigger, heavier, more expensive .40 with an increased risk of overpenetration and needlessly more recoil. The only thing you are really gaining by loading 10mm to its potential is a slightly more barrier blind pistol, but for almost everyone the juice isn't worth the squeeze. +--- 57888244 +>>57888095 +These? Etsy. +--- 57888252 +>>57888244 +--- 57888319 +Whats the best way to carry boxes of ammo and guns to a range? All I have right now is the case the gun came with +--- 57888349 +>>57888319 +In a bag. Wow. That was hard. +--- 57888486 +>>57886860 (OP) +>Handgun General +more like Beretta general +LOL +--- 57888535 +>>57888486 +Well there’s no reason to buy anything else +--- 57888551 +>>57888486 +I don’t see a single Beretta ITT +--- 57888561 +Fun fact, I used to work for an ad agency and Baretta USA was one of our clients. They were very nice. +--- 57888581 +>>57887302 +-old +-gay +-bad caliber + +>>57888486 +You keep saying it, they're going to keep posting it. Is this your first week on the internet? +--- 57888599 +>>57888561 +how does one get into don drapery and is it worth it ($$$) +--- 57888630 +>>57888599 +Nowadays your best bet is to get Google ads certified and get a job with a PPC ad agency. They're always hiring because the job is a real grind and they have a lot of employee churn. Otherwise, get your foot in the door at a marketing agency and work your way up. Pay depends on the agency. I've had good paying agency gigs and bad paying agency gigs. +--- 57888680 +>>57888630 +>They're always hiring because the job is a real grind and they have a lot of employee churn. +sounds like I'd blow my head off +good for you +--- 57888687 +>>57887501 +You should only brag if you can shoot well, which you said you couldn't in the other thread. But yes people blow recoil out of proportion. +--- 57888753 +This is now an Hk thread +--- 57888920 +>>57888753 +Do I really need to pay $800 for a new P2000? I could buy 2 of them, but I'd feel like a fucking maroon buying just 1 at that price. +--- 57888986 +>>57888920 +You should not pay that much +--- 57889055 +Are there any handguns with paddle-type mag releases, manual safeties, and chambered in 9mm beside the HK offerings? +--- 57889100 +>>57889055 +I can’t think of one off the top of my head. P99AS is kind of like that. +--- 57889113 +>>57889055 +Walther. I personally don’t like Walther that much but a lot of people do. Try one out. +--- 57889158 +I’m so sick of 2011s, I need more DA/SA hammer options especially for a compact/subcompact. +--- 57889225 +what have you recently listened to, hgg? +--- 57889266 +>>57889225 +Not whatever trash that is, faggot +--- 57889288 +>>57889266 +expand your horizons and post guns +--- 57889317 +>>57889288 +No +--- 57889358 +>>57889317 +Stained Class (preceding it) and British Steel (after it) are better +--- 57889382 +>>57889358 +Both of those have some banger openers. Never thought I would say this but Turbo is pretty damn good. +--- 57889409 +>>57889382 +BASED +--- 57889416 +>>57889382 +Title track is fucking amazing. +--- 57889433 +>>57889409 +>>57889416 +Fawk yeah, also can’t forget ole’ reliable +--- 57889449 +>>57889382 +Turbo is infinitely better than Ram It Down +Title track is the best on it +>>57889433 +Probably my favorite from Judas Priest. i will say their last album was amazingly good for being so late in their career. Probably their best since Painkiller +--- 57889456 +>>57889449 +It’s pretty decent, I wish I had physical media to post but at least I’m autistic about organizing my music files and having high quality artwork and such. +--- 57889458 +>>57886860 (OP) +Thoughts on FÉG? +--- 57889469 +>>57889458 +Hehe fune name and McDonalds face logo +--- 57889476 +This is now a Judas Priest discussion thread +--- 57889499 +>>57889449 +Ram it down does have an amazing cover of Johnny B Goode though. +--- 57889509 +>>57889476 +What about Moonsorrow? +>>57889499 +Not enough to redeem it +--- 57889518 +I wonder if I should get another 22 pistol or get that conversion slide thing for my glock 22 gen 3 +--- 57889563 +>>57888986 +That seems like what they go for online. I need to research. +--- 57889568 +>>57889499 +Ram it Down has a great title track going for it and idk about the rest, kinda ok. My fav is still Painkiller but I play it way too much when I listen to JP +--- 57889602 +>>57887302 +They were designed in a time when skilled labor was way cheaper than machine time and being just barely better than a revolver was good enough, resulting in a gun that requires Actual Gunsmithing to keep running even though for all that trouble you get the same trigger mechanism as a Steyr AUG and 8 rounds of a cartridge that has the same origin story as .40 S&W and .45 GAP +It won two World Wars, but we'd all be better off if it hadn't. +--- 57889642 +>>57887927 +A BFR in .45-70 (the only government you can trust) would be fun and would use the same bullets as your .458 SOCOM if you get into reloading, but a double action .44 Mag like a 4" S&W 629 or 69 (nice) would also be fun and way cheaper to keep fed and you could potentially carry it in public +--- 57889683 +>>57889563 +If that is what they go for that's a damn shame, it's a $500 pistol at best and was so for a long time :( +--- 57889694 +>>57889683 +Everything’s gone way up in general +--- 57889723 +>>57889694 +Remember when 9mm was jokingly compared to gold? +--- 57889728 +>>57889723 +Yeah.. good times +--- 57889814 +Hey Burt, do you happen to know if Hudson started counting their serials at 0 or 1000? My buddy just picked up #1005 and was wondering how early it would've been, I had heard they made around 9000. Mine is in the early 3000s +--- 57889892 +>>57889728 +Indeed +--- 57889959 +>>57889814 +Dunno--I preordered mine and it's in the 2000s so either they spooled up a full assload for the first batch or skipped 1k +--- 57890128 +>>57889959 +Fugg, so he possibly just bought #5 for a grand. That's neat. +--- 57890206 +Wheelgats report in +--- 57890248 +Did I do the good deed burt? +--- 57890257 +>>57890206 +I regret financially the 586L comp, it’s a great revolver in every sense but it’s been a pain in the ass. Never could get the stock blade sights to zero or I just couldn’t hit shit with them, no way to get a good red dot mount on it, and now the nice Cylinder and Slide fixed rear sights I got are about 6 inches low. Has little recoil due to the comp, the forcing cone blast and the comp blast in comparison to the amount of recoil you feel is fun and also super obnoxious to anybody near you. +--- 57890313 +as promised, the jarvis comp installed + +>>57888755 → +you didn't use the blue threadlocker they included? Guess I'll have to see how this holds up then. Yeah it's just the slide/barrel, not a big deal just slightly changes the zero. Managed to air rack it when I hold down the trigger, cock the slide and load a mag and rack. Can't wait to shoot it. + +>>57890077 +based +--- 57890326 +>>57890248 +Not great, not terrible + +>>57890128 +So this thing was just chilling in a gun shop somewhere? +--- 57890347 +>>57890326 +Sorry it's the best it's going to look burt. +--- 57890414 +>>57890077 +Neato, how's it shoot? Can't bring myself to pay $300 for a kit over $500 for new, but it's cool seeing em out there. +--- 57890434 +>>57890347 +First thing I do when I get a badly used gun is hit that sucker with a toothbrush and soapy water feels SO good to get it clean bro +--- 57890457 +>>57889458 +Got a pa63 in 9mm mak years ago, it works relatively fine for an old blowback. It doesn't like the hot defensive ammo on stock recoil spring. I had plenty makarov ammo at the time but I rather the one in 380 in hindsight +--- 57890468 +i want to add a micro compact to my collection and like the look of this gun. but I have a feeling it might be dumb and gay. does anybody own this? is it cool? it's tiny for a 9mm. smaller than the ruger ec9 +--- 57890492 +>>57890468 +yeah, they're cool +also consider the P238 +don't get the exact one you posted, the SAS sights are largely a meme +--- 57890612 +>>57890468 +Get the exact one you posted; the Special Air Service sights are neat, and it's not like you need highly legible target sights in a DGU anyway. +--- 57890633 +>>57890612 +special air service? I thought sas stood for sig-anti-snag. either way I like the look of the sas and don't plan on making accurate shots with it anyway. I just need to find a good price. +--- 57890670 +>>57890434 +I've done exactly that and that's just how it looks. Was a former rental gun that I bought for cheap when they were getting new stuff. +--- 57891278 +Thinking about hunting for one of these during the next gun show, worth it? +--- 57891288 +>>57891278 +No that’s dumb, get the G40 and have an actually useful Glock for hunting. +--- 57891342 +So carrying just recently became legal in my state. I've narrowed down my choices to either a Sig P365 or an HK P30SK (both with a manual safety). +Between the two of them, the Sig would probably be the one that would wind up costing me more money after all the aftermarket work I'd like to do. +Both of them would be carried concealed OWB/in a shoulder holster far more often than not. To that end the Sig being smaller is a plus but I question how much I'd really notice with it on my belt as opposed to in my waistband. +I'm not really on one side or another of the striker vs hammer debate, but I do like the Sig's trigger in particular quite a bit better, even though I can certainly live with HK's DA/SA. +Am I missing anything here that separates the two besides cool factor and hypothetical QC at this point? +--- 57891419 +>>57891288 +But anon, I already have the best Glock. For some context, my grandfather trained me on a 24 so I’m considering getting one of my own +--- 57891420 +>>57888581 +Does the SW99 decocking feature work on a PPQ slide? +--- 57891453 +>>57891342 +you have to go with the hk. it just looks so cool compared to the p365 +on a side note does anybody know when these are getting released? is it really this year? +--- 57891461 +>>57891342 +The Sig will be considerably thinner and therefore more comfortable to tuck under your belt +Don't aftermarket it, just don't. Get a light if you want more functionality, but neither of those guns need aftermarket parts +--- 57891503 +Does $500 seem like a fair price for a smith airweight? Im looking for something convenient to carry. I dont expect it to be very fun to shoot but that matters a lot less than the ability to slip into a pocket. +I live in WA so my selection is a bit limited but im open to alternatives. +--- 57891555 +>>57891503 +$500 for anything not heavily used or with the words "Hi-Point" on it seems like a steal to me, provided it's something that you actually like. +--- 57891599 +>>57891503 +if that's after taxes and fees then it's not a bad price. +--- 57891612 +>>57891503 +Look into 9mm snub noses. It's a pain to buy .38 special, but otherwise that's what I paid for mine. I don't think guns are getting cheaper unless you combine deals and rebates. +--- 57891621 +>>57889225 +Demon Hunter and FFDP while playing an assimilator on Stellaris. + +Nice taste. +--- 57891656 +>>57891453 +I don’t have any NuSig and no HK’s, so I’ll neutrally agree that is a sexy little Germanic beast. +--- 57891677 +>>57890434 +>>57889458 +--- 57891681 +>>57891419 +Nevermind then go right ahead, though you could probably just swap springs and the barrel to shoot .40 diff --git a/k/57886865.txt b/k/57886865.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7655dafbb49b55c7a76c84cb0bd7dccdf734bb0e --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57886865.txt @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +----- +--- 57886865 +Send in 2/1 to support the withdrawal of U.S troops and assets from Afghanistan + +>wait let’s unbuckle our Kevlar and take this dumbass boot pic real quick +>condition 3 rifles unslung +> PPE? Wtf is that? +>let’s make some TikTok videos while this mob overruns our cordon + +Yea no fucking wonder they got blown up. Every SNCO in that unit shat the bed +--- 57886875 +Poor bait, no bump 4 u. Go work on your life issues anon, you need it. +--- 57886885 +>>57886875 +Yea everything that triggers you is bait, good one turd. +--- 57886886 +>>57886865 (OP) +Go away, gunny. No one cares. I bet you'd shid your pants if I told you the motivator on the right is wearing white socks. +--- 57886889 +>his 4th thread today +Grim.... +--- 57886892 +The unlit cigarette is so gay. Here's me with a chocolate bar. +--- 57886897 +>>57886886 +I’ll take white socks. But tell me why pfc shitass on the left doesn’t have a fucking dog tag in his brand new RECKONINGGSSSSS +--- 57886916 +>>57886892 +>sun is out +>still wearing warming layers +>gay watch +ngmi +>>57886897 +Because his nco's failed him. Really? Not gonna mention the absolute retardation that is putting a knife on your pc? +--- 57886919 +>>57886892 + +Holy shit it’s huge +--- 57886922 +>>57886916 +It's not a warming layer, it's an evaporative cooling thing. Also you need to protect your skin bro, fabric helps conserve swear too you should know this devil. +--- 57886929 +> 11 posts +> 5 ips +This is pathetic +--- 57886938 +>>57886916 +I was too busy trying to figure out if he shoots left handed or right +--- 57886958 +>>57886929 +I’m TRIGGEEEREEDD!!! +--- 57887148 +>>57886919 +Nah he's just 5'10" +--- 57887403 +I miss imparting generations of knowledge on boots who were mostly eager to learn. Seems like todays corps just does whatever the fuck it feels like doing +--- 57887477 +>>57886892 +how do you eat this shit choclate it taste like vomit, literall stomach acid +hershey is so shit i cant even look at those choclate bars +--- 57887491 +>>57886865 (OP) +Damn that's craaaaazy. Post your rack, boot. +--- 57887609 +>>57887491 +>Ribbon chasing boot has entered the chat +--- 57887701 +>>57887609 +You know how I know you have no deployments? +--- 57887845 +>>57887701 +was probably rotating out before you could speak a sentence. Don’t get trigger, just don’t be a dumb boot, just that easy +--- 57888044 +>>57886916 +Bro why you think desert people wear a bunch of blankets +--- 57888146 +>>57887701 +I have a GWOT-EX and a Sea Service for standing by to stand by on a big gay boat while fixed wing and spookies benefited petroleum companies. +--- 57888295 +>>57888146 +Got the same for similar. Although the libo ports were beyond worth it. Could’ve written a movie about the shit that went down. civilian life is just a drag +--- 57888351 +>>57886892 +based huge fucking chocolate poster +>>57887477 +vomit hersheys is better than creamy eurotrash +--- 57888371 +>>57886865 (OP) +They are getting Gucci rifles now? +--- 57888425 +>>57886892 +Here's me changing my clothes in a basement in that MOUT town at the base of the Reaper. +--- 57888432 +>>57888371 +have been for a while. Standard issue for grunts is the M27 with some M4's sprinkled here and there. M16's are for POGs like I was. +--- 57888771 +>>57886916 +I can tell you never deployed anywhere serious +--- 57888994 +>>57886865 (OP) +Many such cases diff --git a/k/57886902.txt b/k/57886902.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5eb041775db52d08e8ad9f543da4b796a4b0479b --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57886902.txt @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +----- +--- 57886902 +How long does a proper training to change the MBT system take (for example from T72 to Leo)? And how much does the training Ukrainians get take? +--- 57886917 +>>57886902 (OP) +The US Army's 19K school is 13 weeks for tank training. And of course you have your boot camp beforehand. So assuming these guys are pre-trained in boot camp and have some time on simulators, they could probably be ready in two months from start. +--- 57886926 +>>57886902 (OP) +>they could probably be ready in two months from start +This seems consistent with the leaked document, doesn't it? They're training for like 3 months or so. +--- 57886949 +>>57886902 (OP) +That's what we needed, yet another thread with those pictures. How many did we got so far? 8 or more? +--- 57886959 +>>57886902 (OP) +If you're good, five days. If you're bad, forever. + +Ask your Jutan. +--- 57886990 +>>57886902 (OP) +The issue isn't tank operators, the issue is skilled personnel able to repair and maintain it which takes years. Ukraine has no mechanics familiar with NATO weapon systems, all the hardware NATO is sending will be operated until they break down and then immediately abandoned just like your pic. + +>16/18 Caesar Howitzer systems are out as of December. Denmark and France to send ~30 more. +https://www.google.com/amp/s/bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/12/31/damages-to-16-of-18-caesar-sphs-delivered-to-ukraine-le-figaro/ + +All these countries will request Ukraine to send them back to their home countries for repairs because nobody wants to send their own mechanics into Ukraine to repair at the front. Poland and Britain might do it, but France and Germany won't. France is telling Ukraine to send Caesars back to France for overhaul. +--- 57887041 +>>57886990 +>back to their home countries + +Nope, they'll just put them on a flatbed and in well under 24 hours they'll be on Polish soil from where technicians shipped in will, and have been, repairing them. +--- 57887078 +>>57886990 +>and then immediately abandoned just like your pic. +That picture was taken in Poland, where Ukies are learning to pilot Leo2. It's not going to be abandoned just because, and neither is other equipment that is easily recoverable. +Ukraine can just send any equipment that is not in immediate danger of being captured back to Poland or other NATO countries for repairs. +--- 57887090 +>>57886990 +OH NO I AM DEMOORALIZED +--- 57887577 +>>57887090 +I don't think your morale impacts the front +--- 57887647 +>>57886990 +>get BTFO in one thread +>post the exact same shit in another +Embarrassing. +--- 57887745 +>>57886990 +>Poland might +will and that solves that problem for the most part. Yes, it takes time, money, and manpower to get the tanks there and back, but they can't be fired upon while undergoing repairs either, and a lot of the slowdown is absorbed after the process has been going on a while and repaired shit's steadily coming back in country. +--- 57891262 +>>57886902 (OP) + +Do Bradleys count? + +t. Cav Scout +--- 57891280 +>>57891262 +they count for me anon tell me about your story +--- 57891306 +>>57886990 +I am Cowboy Jimmy from Californya oblast and have been demoralized. Truly wectern tank onli prolong war. Ukrain xoxolnazi should not have provoked Russian bear. Fascist Jew Zelenskyy has forced gayhomo and globoburger on Russian citizens they am just defensing selves. Meanwhile here in Lincolngrad city i cannot afford heating oils for what warming hovel as all have been stopped flowing from Rossiya. My trasvestite daughterson can no longer afford gander resignment cutlery. Truly wect has met our match +--- 57891433 +>>57886949 +Moot point unless you actually want to get rid of all the Ukraine spam period. The number of images hardly matters when literally 50% or more of the board is low tier war spam at any given time. +--- 57891652 +>>57886902 (OP) +>pic +what +how +--- 57891665 +>>57891652 +training accident +several explanations float, seems most likely that a driver, used to the awful reverse gear of T-series, literally reversed into another tank and knocked the turret off +--- 57891669 +>>57891652 +if you let morons drive a tank, they'll invent new ways to break it diff --git a/k/57886942.txt b/k/57886942.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f1e7ea4fd87974bd501f3fd050fc98cd8c3812a1 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57886942.txt @@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +----- +--- 57886942 +Why does every single caliber news article say +>"Enter the [insert cartridge here]" + +Is anyone else noticing this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. It's literally every other article and most of them claim to have different authors. Starting to feel like it's just bots posting and referencing other bot posts. +--- 57886960 +>>57886942 (OP) +>I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. +Your problem is the lack of pills your taking +--- 57886964 +Anyone know where I can buy cheap Sandman's? LGS used to stock them plenty but now it's like they're smoke on the water or something +--- 57886966 +ENTER +--- 57887064 +>>57886966 +THE +--- 57887075 +Why are newscasters the most fuckable women on earth +It's like a bizarre psychological thing, I'm just glad the Japanese are well aware of it so I know it's not just me +--- 57887085 +>>57886942 (OP) +Fuck ya mudda +--- 57887097 +why do you care +--- 57888450 +>>57886942 (OP) +Gamergate; Never Forget. +--- 57888462 +>>57886942 (OP) +Journalists were low functioning chatbots all along +--- 57888485 +>>57887064 + +155MM +--- 57888490 +gun news websites are not for actual gun people. +--- 57888497 +>>57887075 +>Why is a profession that selects for attractiveness and nothing else filled with attractive women +It is a mystery. +--- 57888509 +>>57887064 +pusy +--- 57889395 +>>57886942 (OP) +Because that's how stupid the average person is. Just like how microwave foods have "contents will be hot". That is the level of low IQ society has hit. Next thing you know, there will be a sign on jeans "put pants on first then your shoes" +--- 57889459 +They're written off the same templates. Most news articles are templeted with the details written in like mad-libs +--- 57889582 +>>57886942 (OP) +She looks like the perfect 40 year old to creampie on a Saturday night. Name? +--- 57889617 +>>57889582 +Exactly what I was thinking. Based. +--- 57889643 +>>57889395 +Lmao +--- 57889730 +>>57886942 (OP) +She looks like a stripper. diff --git a/k/57887035.txt b/k/57887035.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2c014f057d0dad2cb4f5d8f18b2b9efdf80d9836 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57887035.txt @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +----- +--- 57887035 +"hickok forty-five here" +--- 57887051 +>>57887035 (OP) +Good thread. +--- 57887071 +>>57887035 (OP) +Bit of pot smokin ;) +--- 57887077 +are you this starved for social interaction and to feel like people want to talk to (You) +--- 57887250 +>>57887077 +Why do you put the word you in parentheses? +--- 57887324 +>>57887250 +you need to be 18 or older to use this site +--- 57887345 +>called Hickok45 +>wasn't born in 1945 +--- 57887461 +>>57887035 (OP) +I watched a zombie movie on Amazon that had him in the movie. +--- 57887576 +>>57887035 (OP) +Really disappointed he's on record as having shilled for the Leviathan tribe. Wonder what product he was pushing. +--- 57887588 +>>57887250 +He meant (((you))). He was calling that poster a jew. +--- 57887612 +>>57887345 +Well obviously he’s the 45th Hickok +--- 57887626 +>>57887077 +ya seehe bud? +--- 57887663 +>>57887345 +He's a big fan of Trump 45 +--- 57887667 +>>57887345 +He was 45 years old when he make the account. Yes, YouTube is that old now and so are you. +--- 57887673 +let’s “smoke some pot” +--- 57887683 +>>57887345 +the 45 is because his favorite cartridge is .45 long colt +--- 57887720 +>>57887345 +'45 is his favourite year because that's the year we killed the most Japs. +--- 57887917 +>>57887035 (OP) +Hi glock 45 here. +--- 57889712 +>>57887035 (OP) +>hey guys rape-my-son45 here and today were gonna show you a real doozie +>here I got my son jon tied up in my reloading shed and I'm gonna clean his guns +>Jon's got a nice 6 inch barrel lets lube it up and start wiping it down +>well now that's done we're gonna swab the bore from the rear +>It's a tight fit but with some CLP it goes in pretty easy +>now we just go in and out until we squit a little grease in for good measure +>and that folks is how I clean my sons guns we'd like to thank out sponsors at Adam & Eve dot com for this wonderful opportunity +--- 57889736 +>>57889712 +https://vocaroo.com/11CxbRbC5cWi +--- 57890044 +>>57887250 +Hello DIA agent! +--- 57890974 +>>57887683 +You are a fucking retard, it's 45 because that's how many times he has been arrested. +--- 57891008 +>>57887035 (OP) +When you die get cremated. Make 1 million rounds of .45ACP and put a few grams of ashes in each and sell for $20-$30 a round. +>That should keep Hickok46 going for a little while! +--- 57891013 +>>57887720 diff --git a/k/57887133.txt b/k/57887133.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..37cf5af7b21239c94e558a2a8055611c0d0e1ded --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57887133.txt @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +----- +--- 57887133 +does it hurt to take the knot? +--- 57887163 +>>57887133 (OP) +No, it's merely for decoration. +--- 57887211 +>>57887163 +then i suppose that raises the question: which tank has the best knot? + +i've always liked the chieftain but i'm not sure if the forward knot really does it for me +--- 57887240 +>>57887133 (OP) +OvO +--- 57887275 +>>57887133 (OP) +What does that part even do? +--- 57887308 +>>57887275 +I'd guess a bore excavator? It redirects the propellant gas from going back down the barrel and causing problems +--- 57887318 +>>57887275 +you (don't) want to know +--- 57887328 +>>57887275 +Ensures the female won't escape fertilisation. +--- 57887748 +>>57887308 +this guy is lying it's to make sure the female gets knocked up + +historically the abrams has been pretty confused, hence it trying to mate with other male tanks like the t-72 in iraq +--- 57887868 +>>57887133 (OP) +OP... I'm gonna get horny u///u +--- 57888090 +>>57887748 +>it's to make sure the female gets knocked up +are knots really necessary for that, though? male tanks have such a size and strength advantage over female tanks. surely the knot must also have some other purpose? or perhaps it's just runaway fisherian selection. + +i just have a hard time believing that a knot is necessary for a breeding pair like this +--- 57888222 +>>57888090 +The knots ensure that your semen doesn't leak out! The more cum you keep in the female AFV, the better. +--- 57890054 +>>57887133 (OP) +maybe +--- 57890330 +>>57890054 +If i get drafted I'm coming home from Beijing in a tank like this. It's worth being gay just to be able to dumb shit like this and lord it over straightfag losers. Mao won't save you from the Moanmaker. +--- 57890386 +>You've been a bad tank +--- 57890455 +>>57890330 +>PLANMC after 3 hours finally kill a US M1A2 SEPv5 +>they recover a gopro inside +>upon viewing it the first thing they hear is +>GUNNER, CANISTER, CHINKS +>the view pans over to the gunner who is in an actual fursuit +>the inside of the tank is painted pink and has RGB lighting +>the Girls Und Panzer theme song is blaring loudly +>there are at least 3 Bad Dragon toys littered throughout the cabin, including a large flared Chance in an empty part of the ready rack +>an M4 is visible with a BD insertable as a suppressor +>the Chinese Marines realize that all the tanks from this unit were sporting bright pink bore evacuators and painted on cat ears +>the realization sets in on what happened to the POWs captured by that unit +--- 57890480 +>>57890386 +BIG +BRITISH +CANNON +--- 57890645 +>>57890455 +>2033 +>manoeuvre warfare in the gobi wasteland almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter +>fast-moving radstorm blowing in from the three gorges lake means that everyone's been locked inside their IFVs for two whole days for NBC protection, all armoured vehicles buttoned up, everyone on full hurry up and wait alert while compressed into a space the size of a porta potty +>finally get the all clear, can dismount and stretch their legs at last, vehicles finally unbutton +>sitting onna hesco block enjoying the smell of non-recycled air for the first time in two days, it's a bit smokey but at least it doesn't smell like the combined, accumulated farts of an entire squad and IFV crew who have been living off MREs for two weeks +>in the near foreground a unit of heavy armour is doing pretty much the same thing, dismounting for the first time in days and enjoying not being locked in a tiny space with smelly young men +>huh, tanks must be even less comfortable than IFVs because a lot of them seem to be walking funny +>weird, their uniforms are so clean considering they must have been living in them the whole time, it looks like they've barely been worn +>why does that tank have a disco ball hanging from the loader's hatch? +>one of the tankers is throwing bottle after bottle out of the hatch of their tank from inside, pissbottles obviously from being buttoned up for so long, such is life +>bottle after bottle after bottle +>wait a second... +>those aren't pissbottles +--- 57890664 +>>57890645 +>when you ask them if the petite loader in a non-regulation maid outfit is a girl they just smirk at you +--- 57890933 +>>57890664 +>when they keep refusing to use APFSDS rounds because HEAT rounds are "thiccer" so they must be better penetrators +--- 57891284 +>>57890455 +>GUNNER, CANISTER, CHINKS + +fucking kek +--- 57891291 +>>57887133 (OP) +yes +you will enjoy it +--- 57891424 +>>57890480 +> You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about. +>captcha lol +--- 57891432 +>>57887275 +it means the tank is not jewish +--- 57891443 +>>57890480 +Do you think a T-72 gun could be inserted into the barrel of a Challenger (or any other NATO MBT)? What's the tactical advantage of using cannons thinner than your enemy's projectiles? diff --git a/k/57887262.txt b/k/57887262.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9022166f535ad6e53a43e80b1d96d170dc27cd00 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57887262.txt @@ -0,0 +1,47 @@ +----- +--- 57887262 +I've been in a coma for 9 months, can someone explain to me in 6 words what's the status of Bakhmut? +--- 57887276 +>>57887262 (OP) +still not taken. By the way, did you hear about the Kharkhiv and Kherson offensives? +--- 57887291 +> +--- 57887301 +>>57887262 (OP) +I took a massive shit today +--- 57887325 +>>57887262 (OP) +I'm not a fag; don't know +--- 57887330 +>>57887262 (OP) +Gerald Bull did nothing wrong +death to Israel +--- 57887619 +>>57887262 (OP) +Total Russian Victory In Two Weeks. +--- 57890945 +>>57887262 (OP) +That pic fucks +--- 57890950 +Howdy. +--- 57890958 +>>57887262 (OP) +TWO MORE WEEKS +--- 57890993 +>>57887619 +You said that two weeks ago, and two more before that. +--- 57891111 +>>57887262 (OP) +Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia fucked up. +--- 57891116 +>>57891111 +gotta love those quints +--- 57891247 +>>57887262 (OP) +Under russian control (legally (by russian law)) +--- 57891507 +>>57891116 +There are no quints here +--- 57891642 +>>57891507 +meant quads... sorry. trying to work caffeine out of my system while being strung out and tired but unable to sleep. diff --git a/k/57887385.txt b/k/57887385.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..52a7fe0d47d891309e625d057baa5d5ff64f13d1 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57887385.txt @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@ +----- +--- 57887385 +>PPU: 44cpr +>PMC: 44cpr +>IMI: 46cpr +>Winchester Lake City: 46cpr + +With free shipping. Are these good deals? Which one is best? Is it worth to get IMI or Winchester? +--- 57888359 +>>57887385 (OP) +good deal... NO... but at FJB prices you will be hard pressed to find better for NATO. I'd only buy at these prices if I wasn't Smaug. Any higher and I'd consider reloading. Especially if these are bulk prices. + +Malreports from our wars with Eastasia and Eurasia indicate we're also running out, so don't expect the prices to drop lower any time soon. + +All the PMC X-tac, IMI, and LC I've run through my rifles has shot well, with consistent groups too. I do get minor shifts in POI between them, but nothing a few clicks can't fix. Because I reload and PPU has issues with brass that are a no-go for me, I haven't touched it. + +Save your brass. If you don't reload, you can turn it into the local recycler and get a few bucks back. If you go with PMC, it's probably the best bang for your buck. If you do reload, LC is the best, followed by PMC and IMI. The quality of the LC brass makes up for the extra cpr. +--- 57888413 +>>57887385 (OP) +I know IMI waters down their velocity. + +After taxes and with no shipping, I can reload m193 for 36cpr. I wish prices would go down. +--- 57888439 +Winchester has rebates going on that bring their m193 down to 40.5 cents per round if you can find with free shipping. Winchester white box and PPU are both full spec m193. See Buffman's reviews. Not sure if PMC m193 is full spec these days. + +Palmetto's AAC company just dropped 77gr 5.56 around Easter for 55 cents per round before shipping, which is pretty damn good. + +I don't reload but I'm going to start collecting brass. Maybe once i feel like i have enough to make reloading worth while i'll start tooling up. Prices suck and I don't see it getting better. I expected shipping costs to go down once fuel prices dropped but that didn't happen. +--- 57888460 +>>57888439 +Rocky Mountain Reloading has some cheap bullets if you do start reloading. Otherwise pulled Armscor 55gr bullets can be had for ~$0.07/ bullet. diff --git a/k/57887565.txt b/k/57887565.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..76f4f991428b1c22b21f64fb2e6aa24630e9d2b5 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57887565.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 57887565 +Hard mode: No LTC, No FID. +--- 57887580 +Take money +Exchange it for goods or services +--- 57887608 +>>57887580 +Step 3 Dog gets shot +--- 57887632 +>>57887565 (OP) +>Spoonfed a Nogunz +Aren't you going to explain how you spoonfed a nogunz? +--- 57887638 +>>57887632 +Put me on to the sauce nigga. +--- 57888956 +I'm not even sure what you want you are such a poor communicator. I know, "shall not" but that was originally for a class of people. Folks who can't even figure out a p80 shouldn't be allowed to have guns, or drive cars for that matter. diff --git a/k/57887674.txt b/k/57887674.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ffa2ce7b95b17407b0d41c24b8a8a69afb5b9a01 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57887674.txt @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +----- +--- 57887674 +>spend $300 on WML +>only half the batteries work +>randomly turns on +>doesn’t turn off with some of the batteries +>tape switches sold separately +Made in America quality +--- 57887682 +>>57887674 (OP) +Hellcucker sux. Yiff in hell. +--- 57887693 +>>57887682 +Yeah and I still want to have mutual anal sex with Loona +--- 57887750 +>>57887693 +>mutual anal sex +>mutual +--- 57887804 +>>57887674 (OP) +I want to see Blitzo fuck Mille while Moxxie is forced to watch. +--- 57887819 +>>57887750 +i wouldnt worry about it anon +--- 57887852 +>>57887804 +lmao I accidentally read fuck as "tuck". +--- 57887864 +>>57887674 (OP) +I'd fuck the woolfpoosy +--- 57887891 +>>57887750 +Being rimmed feels good. +>>57887804 +Kill cuckolds. Behead cuckolds. Roundhouse kick cuckolds into a volcano. Suplex cuckolds into a wood chipper. +--- 57888268 +>>57887819 +I’d let her rim me +--- 57888381 +>>57887891 +>>57888268 +Plus one on that +>>57887804 +rope, now +--- 57888388 +>>57887804 +I wanna see moxxie fuck Loona +--- 57888508 +>>57888388 +My guy. +--- 57888585 +literally built for big puppy cock +--- 57888917 +>>57887674 (OP) +>the last /k/ battalion invades Hell for fuzzy gfs +--- 57889184 +>>57888585 +*human +--- 57889191 +>>57889184 +--- 57889873 +we have a loona thread thisaway if you want to shitpost. +>>>/bant/17475517 +--- 57889966 +>>57889873 +Nice +--- 57890969 +>>57888508 +Dont tell anyone but kemonoparty is a site where you can pay a janny’s monthly salary to view all patreon content +--- 57890987 +>>57887750 +It's a thing I've seen it. One fag squats over the other grabing his and the other fags cock guiding one another into each other's ass. I forget the name for it +--- 57890995 +>>57890987 +I’m talking about having Loona rim me or maybe stick a finger in my butt what the hell +--- 57891055 +>>57887674 (OP) +>>57888508 +>226 posts from this artist +>only 18 of them arent trashbin hotel +--- 57891170 +>complains about product +>doesn’t name it +>starts some ridiculous anime porn argument + +OP +--- 57891203 +>>57891170 +Modlite +--- 57891233 +>>57890969 +Sail on, piratechad +--- 57891243 +>/k/ - Furfags +--- 57891252 +streamlight GOATed +--- 57891346 +>>57891243 +always was diff --git a/k/57887751.txt b/k/57887751.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fdd84ffc37848bca3198269f69ee9a3338b45624 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57887751.txt @@ -0,0 +1,35 @@ +----- +--- 57887751 +I can save a fuckton of money by making my own holsters with this, right? The problem here is that I want to have different holsters for different setups, and it would be prohibitively expensive to buy Crossbreeds for all of them. I also want to make smaller things like magazine pouches and inserts for 9mm mags. + +Has anyone used these? Are they relatively simple? +--- 57889092 +i forgot no one has guns on this board +--- 57889733 +>>57887751 (OP) +It's pretty simple. I'm not sure what stuff you'll have to mold the holsters with but my tips are based on the stuff I had when I molded custom double layer competition holsters. +Tape blocks over anything that sticks out if it is not covered by the plate your attachment piece rests on (e.g., safety) and anything thicker than whats behind it (like lights). Metal blocks, like erector strips are best, but two popsicle sticks taped together will probably work. Block off the spaces in your rail (for non-light bearing holster) if you have one. Make a channel for your sights with a square wood dowel by taping it in between or over your sights. Cover both sides of the slide with two layers of blue painters tape, do the same to the light. When taping on the plate that your attachment pieces will lay on, level it as best as you can with pieces of something underneath the plate (I used small pieces of kydex scraps). Exact placement of the plate depends on the gun but general rule of thumb is slightly under the top of the slide and back edge a little bit behind the mag release. Line up the attachment piece with the back of the mag release. Don't put any tape on the trigger guard for non-light bearing holsters as thats where most of your retention comes from. +For mag pouches put 4 layers of tape and separate the edges of the kydex that are stuck together before the kydex cools completely, makes it much easier to remove the mag from the molded kydex. +--- 57889758 +>>57889751 +--- 57889766 +>>57889758 +--- 57889871 +>>57887751 (OP) +I highly recommend it. I got into it a few years ago when the only holsters for my gun started at $85, and now I can make holsters set up exactly how I like for about $15 material's cost and a couple hours of work. I toss the kydex in the toaster oven and slowly heat it up to 300-350 degrees, wrap it around the gun, and squish it between a couple slabs of foam until it cools. Of course, as the other guy said, tape the shit out of your gun and keep in mind parts that won't be able to slide right out of the holster without an additional form in the molding process. +--- 57889949 +I'm less experienced then other anons and my initial attempts have been pretty amateur, but I'm still glad I've started getting into it. In some cases it may essentially be the only way to do something short of extreme pricing/effort, like if you've got an unusual gun or attachments. Getting foam and ideally a dedicated toaster oven (I started with a heat gun and while I can see that being useful for a bit of tweaking definitely not recommended in general) is a bit of upfront investment but worth it. And particularly when colleges let out often there are tons of ancient old toaster ovens up for sale for a song, doesn't matter if they're pieces of crap in this application. +--- 57890626 +I've made quite a few. A Dremel with sanding drums and cutting wheels is clutch. Get quality clips, and I preferred Chicago style screws instead of rivers for adjustment and cleaning. Foam and a good press go a long ways. Like these guys said, blocking is an art in itself and makes all the difference. I typically just modified popsicle sticks and used painters tape for everything. It's fun if you don't mind putting in a few hours of work, and of course you will fuck up a bunch in the beginning. It's nice tho, if you fuck up, reheat the kydex and try again. If you like to tinker it's fun. And you can get things perfect for your preferences and make unique designs. +--- 57891422 +>>57889733 +>>57889871 +>>57889949 +>>57890626 +all great info, thanks. ill order some later today after i sleep. i think i can get my dickbeaters on a toaster oven pretty easy and inexpensively so thats a plus +--- 57891459 +>>57887751 (OP) +if you have all the equipment its cake to make but might cost more to make than buy! +--- 57891655 +>>57891459 +not for the volume i intend to make, most likely. its also a good skill diff --git a/k/57887760.txt b/k/57887760.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..75be2c42bba002bc09b126b6e9d63407f823d521 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57887760.txt @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@ +----- +--- 57887760 +Are these a meme? I see more and more people NOT running these. Why? Is it better to just use the click cap? If so, is it ok to have it mounted on your strong side and just go over the top of the handguard with weak hand to click it? +--- 57887764 +i personally dont like having power cord spaghetti on my guns +--- 57887767 +>>57887760 (OP) +They have always been a meme, anon. +Real operators just side/offset mount and thumb activate the light as necessary. +--- 57887771 +>>57887760 (OP) +>If so, is it ok to have it mounted on your strong side and just go over the top of the handguard with weak hand to click it? +Kek wtf +--- 57889985 +>>57887760 (OP) +I'm left handed, the lights are on that side of the gun. +It took me a long time to find these light mounts. +The Haley Strategic ones I saw later. +Surefire also makes the scout light with integrated mount. +Anyway, using the pistol grip, my thumb positions perfectly on the light base. +Otherwise, I can C-clamp type hold the handguard and light light together. +It works great. I think wires hanging off the gun would be much worse. +--- 57890048 +>>57887760 (OP) +>looking at pressure pad set up from modlite website +>this has constant on right? +>yes +>are you SURE? it looks momentary only +>we promise +>buy it +>its momentary only +Never again with those fags +--- 57890062 +>>57890048 +It has constant on. You just keep holding it down. +--- 57890082 +>>57887760 (OP) +Those are specially reserved for chink made lights, you're not using chink made lights are you anon? +--- 57890129 +Why would they be a meme? I see a lot of people mounting lights on the rail side where their thumb can't reach the clicky cap readily and im pretty sure they only take pictures of their guns for Instagram. + +I like this kind of setup but I don't like threading it through itself on such a tight angle on the wires. +--- 57890138 +>>57887760 (OP) +I like it on mine. No wire sticking out, control right under the thumb, very easy to use without moving hand at all. But I can also see why lots of others wouldn't on their less meme builds. So guess just up to you really, if you think it's comfortable fine but don't get it "just because" either. +--- 57890779 +>>57887760 (OP) +>pressure pad for IR designator +Not a meme +>pressure pad for white light +Meme +The exception to this is guns that literally don't have railspace or mounting options to put the light in a spot where you can actuate the switch/cap without breaking your grip. + +The REAL reason you generally don't see pros running things like dual-pressure switches on guns with both an IR designator and a white light is because discharging a white light when you meant to hit your ir laser is going to get you and your coworkers killed. +--- 57891034 +>>57890779 +>The REAL reason you generally don't see pros running things like dual-pressure switches on guns with both an IR designator and a white light is because discharging a white light when you meant to hit your ir laser is going to get you and your coworkers killed. +This doesn't make sense anon, switches like OP shows merely toggle the illuminator on/off, they don't change the setting. On mine and I'd assume any others that's a separate physical dial or whatever, if it's in laser position then it's not emitting white whether it's on or not. You'd have to fuck up that part, but you could do that anyway. Essentially moving the power button doesn't change that at all. diff --git a/k/57887775.txt b/k/57887775.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6b40559bdc01e0f992d785d4804f6c5ef1d51eca --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57887775.txt @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +----- +--- 57887775 +You have to make this lethal. How do you do it? +--- 57887802 +Are the rounds orange flavored? +--- 57887812 +>>57887775 (OP) +use a needle and insert Nitroglycerin into the balls +--- 57887818 +>>57887802 +tang flavored +--- 57887821 +>>57887775 (OP) +Tape a gun to it +--- 57887836 +fill it with miniature versions of those green balls from The Rock +--- 57887913 +>>57887775 (OP) +Lethal? That's hard. You'd have to use some kind of poison and make custom little paintballs for it. Fentanyl maybe? Whatever you used would be a big risk of poisoning yourself. +If you could make tiny paintballs that it could fire, you could do something like this, maybe. +https://youtu.be/ulBKkpd0FYw [Embed] + + +While I doubt it would be lethal, is it possible you could rig it up to single-fire a metal dart or needle? +--- 57887952 +>>57887913 +>Lethal? That's hard. + +Hey retard, just beat your victim in the head with the gun until it inevitably breaks in half. Then stab them to death with a sharp plastic shard. It really is that easy! +--- 57887972 +>>57887775 (OP) +sneak it past AU customs and excise +--- 57887980 +Make the gel balls out of WP, bursts on contact and is exposed to air immediately. +--- 57887981 +>>57887775 (OP) +gyrojet ammo +--- 57888886 +>>57887775 (OP) +Spray paint it black, hand it to a black child, call the cops +--- 57888988 +>>57887775 (OP) +>strap down victim +>shove barrel down throat +>pull trigger +>watch the light fade from their eyes as their airway is jammed with gel beads + +No modification needed. +--- 57889876 +>>57888886 +Why would you need to waste the paint? +--- 57890201 +>>57887775 (OP) +>find some lonely schizo +>hand him a box with a gel blaster and a jug full of gel balls +>tell him the antichrist is coming to get him and you were sent by jesus to help him save mankind +>call crimestoppers and tip them off about a schizo planning to commit a mass shooting with a gun +>call uncle johnny and tell him there's a new reason to ban more firearms +It would ruin a whole country. +--- 57890220 +I would put the barrel over my ass and whenever I would fart, I would tell my partner to fire, and when the bullets enter my fart cloud, it would make the bullets have fart damage, thus poisoning anyone who got shot with it with fart +--- 57890227 +>>57887775 (OP) +smear the projectiles with peanut butter and keep trying. Eventually you'll find someone with an allergy. +--- 57890702 +>>57887913 +>>57887775 (OP) +Take it to Australia, Its classed as a lethal fire arm there. +https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-14/three-arrested-in-police-raids-in-wollongong/102219684 +>AR15-style gel blaster and two gel pistols during a search of a home +--- 57890739 +>>57887775 (OP) +Take it to Australia. It is now, by legal definition, a firearm. In order to own this firearm, you must possess a licence of equivalent national standard as a Category A firearms licence. I mean, after all look at it! It's CLEARLY as deadly as a rimfire single-shot shotgun. (I hate my countries dumbass laws) +--- 57891427 +>>57887775 (OP) +Put plastic explosive in it. Hook primer up to the trigger. +Never said it had to be lethal to target or user. +--- 57891446 +>>57887775 (OP) +I remember hearing stories about how people in the Phillipines made very rudimentary improvised guns with nothing but rubbing alcohol, a lighter, and a steel baring ball as a projectile. Spray rubbing alcohol into a plastic chamber, insert steel ball into muzzle, grab a lighter and light the alcohol in the chamber through an access port, and boom, you officially have a lethal weapon. +--- 57891447 +>>57887775 (OP) +Fentanyl or other drug/poison-laced gel balls. Also motor and piston or whatever upgrades to improve overall performance for convenience's sake. diff --git a/k/57887807.txt b/k/57887807.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1f7e458ef261147617f31916b3ed4edea2f05820 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57887807.txt @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +----- +--- 57887807 +I storytimed this comic earlier on /co/. +figured you guys might like this one. +Issue #1 of Aces High, published by EC Comics. +It's about airplanes in warfare during WWI +EC is also responsible for other war related publications such as Two Fisted Tales and Frontline Combat +--- 57887820 +wait shit read this introduction first +it's very soulful. +--- 57888021 +>>57887807 (OP) +Oh hell yeah, I love the old pilot pulps/comics. +Everyone remembers the detective and pulp hero ones, the final part of the Big Three seems to have been largely forgotten. + +imho, air combat peaked as an art at it's beginning +--- 57888035 +>>57888021 +recommend me some pilot pulps/comics +I've read an issue or two of Blackhawk, this. and.. that's pretty much it +there's a bunch of other ones i'm aware of but haven't read, like Enemy Ace +--- 57888180 +>>57888035 +This: + +https://thepulp.net/pulpsuperfan/2017/07/03/the-pulp-heroes-of-flying-aces/ +gives a good run down of just about every character line of note from the old comic runs, while this: + +https://www.ageofaces.net/ +Is a fan run reprinter of interwar aviation novels + +If you want good first hand accounts of WW1 aviation I can highly recommend "Fighting the Flying Circus" and "The Millionaires Unit", as well as Life Time Books' "Knights of the Air" +--- 57890757 +end diff --git a/k/57887848.txt b/k/57887848.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1e3b0a65e0a17db1ab09c02394d86139df69536d --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57887848.txt @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +----- +--- 57887848 +>be kitted out in a few months wages of tacticool gear +>die to municipale with taurus handgun after you shoot at his crown vic +Why are narcos like this? +--- 57887879 +>>57887848 (OP) +They have the same issue dictators had, if their military wing was competent they'd be killed by those who served them +--- 57887882 +>>57887848 (OP) +Have you seen the cartel sicario bootcamp videos? It explains a lot. +--- 57887934 +>>57887882 +They get more training on how to abduct and torture people to death than actual combat training, which explains why even n*rcoid paramilitary get absolutely raped against national guards (basically just militarized cops) +--- 57890983 +>>57887848 (OP) +>few months wages of tacticool gear + +wat? This looks like airsoft shit from aliexpress. No attempts to standardize or even buil a reasonable individual kits, just hapahazardly thrown carriers and michs on skinny fat coked up taconiggers. diff --git a/k/57888042.txt b/k/57888042.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..27e60c3dbaa25af4e1d63164fc11d0af21c19851 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57888042.txt @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +----- +--- 57888042 +What's it like being a marine on an actual ship as opposed to a grunt in an infantry battalion? Is it kinda like being Security on Star Trek? +--- 57888076 +>>57888042 (OP) +wait...are they just training or can you use a javelin to hit small boats and shit? +--- 57888111 +>>57888076 +you can use a javelin to hit a warm turd, but they're probably just training +--- 57888142 +>>57888042 (OP) +>Is it kinda like being Security on Star Trek? + +yes, it's exactly like that + +t. E-4 +--- 57888186 +>>57888042 (OP) +Does security on Star Trek +>live inna berthing that smells like balls and protein farts +>watch pirated movies from external hard drives +>stand in line for chow for a couple of hours +>resent the 1MC +>hate the smoking lamp +>want to kill or fuck blueside +>black out in every libo port +If any of these apply, then, yeah. +--- 57888194 +>>57888042 (OP) +>>57888042 (OP) +If you enlist in the USMC as an 03 today, you can guarantee you’ll do at least one MEU rotation, maybe two. Life is simple on the boat. But ship life kills motivation. You need to find a way to stay motivated and not let your peers and platoon turn into a bag of shit. Spent 9 months on the Essex, was the simultaneously the most fun I’ve ever had in my life, and also the most boring time. Libo ports are like the climax of human existence. If you have a good command, you get released onto a foreign nation and with a pocket full of cash and the boys to back you up. If you’re smart you can have the time of your life and get away with a lot of dumb shit that wouldn’t fly anywhere else in the world. If you slip up you’ll be NJP’d or court martial’d on the spot and never leave the boat again until you port back in the United States. + +Would post more pics, but ya just had to be there unfortunately +--- 57888206 +>>57888042 (OP) +>Is it kinda like being Security on Star Trek? +Grossly incompetent? +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzhgEGeKcbo [Embed] +--- 57888255 +>>57888042 (OP) +>>57888194 +Got into a platoon brawl with our recon detachment the night we ported in Bahrain. 800 Marines and sailors all piss drunk. 30 plus dudes in an all out brawl on NSA Bahrain. Never seen anything like it. The navy locked down the base and had its crisis response unit come out and try to gain control, navy MP’s with rifles condition 1 throwing dudes around and getting manhandled by the mob. Shit was incredible. Ended up getting put on restriction. Snuck off ship the very next port in Dubai, got shitfaced at a fancy ass club on the beach with tons of rich Europeans, ended up getting caught omw back to ship and NJP’d the next day. 0 fucking regrets +--- 57888273 +>>57888042 (OP) +>>57888194 +>>57888255 +Final post + +I miss those days like you wouldn’t believe. Life moved so fast you could hardly feel sad about something for more than a day. Highest highs and the lowest lows. Just got out after 10 years last year and trying to find some shit in the civilian world that’s worth a damn +--- 57888331 +>>57888273 +I feel that, man. I'll miss the Corps a lot sometimes, but, not too frequently. It's been about six years since I've gotten out. I find myself missing the simplicity and camaraderie, but, I also realize that I'm much older and generally different than the kid that DEPed in at 18. Which, is to say, for as much as I appreciate those fond memories, my perspective would be completely different if I were just hitting the fleet today. +--- 57888400 +>>57888331 +Absolutely, just crazy how time flies really. It’s so often said, but it really is wacky +--- 57888440 +>>57888042 (OP) +Should I become one? +--- 57888538 +>>57888255 +>NJP’d +essentially +>do what you please, I have already won +--- 57888601 +>>57888331 +I was checking out during the Afghan withdrawal so in between appointments and chows I was watching the country be embarassed and fellow Marines get blown up and shit on for asking for accountability. One morning the platoon commander asked everyone to assemble at the barracks basketball court to announce the covid vaccine was mandatory, and my platoon sgt came to my room and was like "yeah you're about to get out so we're not gonna worry about it" +Plan was to move back in with my dad, who I had lived with when I first enlisted, but he would not welcome me back unless I was vaccinated. +Moved back to my hometown and lived with mom for a bit, bought my own house and am using my GI Bill. Been talking to dad again and he's helped me through tough times but I can never forget that my life is the way it is now because of him, for better and for worse. +Also had a buddy who was in the running for meritorious sgt but he was kicked out for refusing the vaccine, and now we hear about Natl Guard and Marine reserve units calling people back because their "discharges weren't processed" and that Navy and Army medical screenings ask about adverse vaccine side effects. +Sorry for the rant, we're just all talking about some memories and I get on tangents sometimes. I can tell some cool libo stories from my time in Okinawa if anyone wants to read them. +--- 57889217 +>>57888601 +Oh bro. Don’t even get me started on those warm summer Oki nights. Kokusai was absolutely amazing before covid. You with the MLG or a UDP? +--- 57889624 +>>57888601 +More than fair to not want to get experimented on. Good shit on buying a house. I've been renting like a fucktard, but, with the cash I've saved up, might be time to look into the VA home loan. Fell into the move back home pit for awhile, too. It seemed like it made it worse being around someone that knew me before I joined and thought they still did after. +I never went to Afghanistan, but seeing that clusterfuck of a withdrawal irked me too. It made me kind of glad I didn't get all the guts and glory younger me wanted. +It's a trip being out. I don't know if you relate, but, all I wanted when I was in was to get out. All I miss when I'm out is the sense of belonging I took for granted. +Keep your head up, Marine. You're doing the damn thing. +--- 57889668 +>>57888194 +>>57888255 +>>57888273 +Shits like this makes me immensely regret not joining the corps straight out of high school. Instead of fucking around with the boys around the world I decided to pursue a normie career. Big fucking regret. +--- 57889750 +>>57889668 +The boys are all retards. Unless you're as retarded as them, which is very likely reading your post, it would get old quick. +--- 57890377 +>>57888255 + +you are forgiven if you fight china +--- 57890378 +>>57888273 +I been out since 08. You will not find it. The civilian world is full of faggotry and no sense of purpose everyone is just a wage slave trying to survive. +--- 57890401 +>>57889217 +No one gives a fuck about your kin ville escapades. I hope shore patrol tore dat ass good and loose. +--- 57890578 +>>57890401 +Shore patrol was always full of the biggest pussies on planet earth. Got fat pogs out there can’t even run a first class pft +--- 57890587 +>>57890401 +Kin town and Kokusai are two different places +--- 57890617 +>>57888042 (OP) +Boring as shit and gets extra gay. diff --git a/k/57888176.txt b/k/57888176.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..84f12fc01b98ab11032862b050e1f383127bc1d2 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57888176.txt @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +----- +--- 57888176 +https://youtu.be/SnLMkguU-vI [Embed] +is this a reasonable way of dealing with cartels? +--- 57888211 +>>57888176 (OP) +>video from Feb 2017 +>currently April 2023 +Evidently the Mexicans have also proven that you can't just blast your way to victory in an asymmetric war. +--- 57888240 +>>57888176 (OP) +>the war on drugs: failed +>the war on terror: failed +W-we should declare war on engineering catgirls and gun rights. +--- 57889347 +>>57888176 (OP) +The cartels can buy those too. You know nothing about them. +--- 57889842 +Nah. Best to use cash. They can't turn around and shoot you with that after the deal. diff --git a/k/57888239.txt b/k/57888239.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ae246d62872ef5f9ccf369e81b80695eb5e75e56 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57888239.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1144 @@ +----- +--- 57888239 +Old: >>57885748 → +--- 57888254 +Dammit old thread archived +--- 57888258 +>>57888239 (OP) +Everything else is irrelevant +--- 57888275 +Tf does a coil stove have to do with making hash browns or cancer like wtf man +--- 57888294 +>>57888275 +Jews are against cast iron pans +--- 57888297 +>>57888294 +cast iron pans are great, but not suitable for literally everything +--- 57888322 +So 77gr is unobtanium in all my LGS, and I can’t order to my house in this state. +>The SPR dreamer lays troubled + +What brands do you guys recommend? I’d like to stock in decent amounts, what’s the “value” round and what’s the high end? +Is “value” 77gr just M855? +--- 57888329 +>>57888254 +This post isn’t complaining about staff but they do have weird priorities. +--- 57888340 +>>57888322 +s&b, awaiting a2's testing on PSA's new 77g offering. +--- 57888342 +>>57888258 +eh. k2 is my personal fav so far. also the reptilia grip looks nice. +--- 57888343 +Soppo getting a new heart +--- 57888348 +>>57888340 +>PSA's new 77g offering +Already shot it, it's 1 moa stuff +--- 57888350 +>>57888343 +blessed. +--- 57888352 +>>57888343 +whats wrong with the old one? +--- 57888354 +>>57888322 +M193 was made for muskets +--- 57888357 +>>57888340 +For what it's worth, I tested the new OTMs versus their SMK OTMs and got basically the same groups. About 1.5moa from my setup off bipod +--- 57888363 +>>57888352 +Nothing Just has the chance to get an EBCG +--- 57888364 +>>57888342 +>eh. k2 is my personal fav so far. +Everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion. +>also the reptilia grip looks nice. +Probably has the same oem as magpul which I am replacing with a BCM. +--- 57888376 +Why the fuck do M203s cost so much? I can't even buy one but you're telling me a hollow cylinder costs 2,000? +--- 57888385 +>>57888376 +>what is supply and demand +econ 101 fren +--- 57888389 +>>57888376 +Lack of competition, and they dont really sell a lot of them, DD's are not particularly popular in general so when they do make/sell them they want to make a healthy profit on it. +--- 57888397 +>57888389 +Let me guess, you have five of them on transferable automatic lowers, right? +--- 57888398 +>>57888258 +I do give BCM props for keeping the foliage green gang in their thoughts. +--- 57888412 +>>57888397 +Seriously don't even acknowledge him. +--- 57888419 +>>57888385 +Get iris for your nods already. +--- 57888422 +>>57888239 (OP) +>tfw haven't gone shooting in over 6 months +What the fuck man. +--- 57888431 +>>57888422 +>idktf +Cant feel good tho +--- 57888435 +>>57888357 +What barrel +--- 57888444 +>>57888431 +YOU DONT OWN GUNS. +--- 57888446 +>>57888412 +I file all his posts as “avatar or signature use” because the jajejijoju definitely care about board quality. +>>57888385 +Big Green, what bipod is on your MK12 so that I may replace this $20 peacegeek meme one on my clone correct MK12? +--- 57888452 +>>57888422 +im breaking a dry streak this weekend too anon dw +--- 57888453 +>>57888446 +Why are your photos so small and look like ass please take them better dude. +--- 57888463 +>>57888446 +--- 57888468 +The secret is the bacon and the msg +--- 57888478 +>>57888468 +MSG is great, have family that legitimately think it gives them headaches and all that shit, and then they go eat at Chinese buffets and shit. The MSG and GMO hate is fucking insane, but hey it works as good marketing for some companies to then turn around and charge asinine prices for basic ass products. +--- 57888480 +>>57888435 +BA 16" SPR. I think the barrel is holding it back less than the poorfag optic with it's thick ass reticle +--- 57888495 +>>57888444 (checked) +Mutilated with permanent damage dealt by surgery, will never pass as what it wants to be and pretending to be something it isnt. +I was talking about my aero ambi lower and not trannies. +>>57888463 +Is your “crib” on west allen street a good place to send the warranty card, jessica? +--- 57888511 +>>57888480 +huh BA is supposed to be sub MOA guaranteed +--- 57888514 +>>57888446 +If you want clone correct, you gotta go Harris Engineering BRM-S w/ ARMS #32 Bipod Mount and KWM Pod-Loc according to https://clonerifles.com/mk12mod0/ +>>57888419 +I'm just gonna get bikini covers and call it a day +--- 57888517 +Rc2 is now the tran can +Flow 556k has to be cleaned +Saker is for tripfags +Fuck this, im going back to loud and proud. less heat, lighter, no fouling, no waiting all day for it to cool off, no more burnt corduroys, plus i'll already have ears on anyway. +--- 57888518 +I'm retarded- are all form 1's tax free right now? Or only for braced pistols and definitely not a honey pot? +--- 57888519 +>>57888444 +ash. we know. go do them 20 pushups +--- 57888521 +>>57888511 +I'm sure it is for a 3 round group off a bench in a sled. I did 10 round groups off a rock with a bipod +--- 57888524 +>>57888514 +ngl the bikini cover kinda annoying me. +--- 57888527 +>>57888518 +>I'm retarded- are all form 1's tax free right now? +No +> Or only for braced pistols and definitely not a honey pot? +Yeah +--- 57888532 +>>57888517 +Post a can you own +--- 57888544 +>>57888532 +I have an SB2 +--- 57888557 +>>57888544 +And a digital camera on your phone at least, let's see that bad boy +--- 57888564 +kinda want a sandcutter bolt carrier ngl +--- 57888565 +>>57888514 +>7.62x51 +>SI JCOMP +>KAC rear MBUS PRO front +>lolosun +>faxon barrel +I said clone correct as a joke but two more weeks and I’ll order the Allen AEM5 30 cal. I still need a scope for this thing and a scope with either a top mount for the lolosun for 30mm ring adapter plate. +>A.R.M.S +Ewww. +>>57888453 +Idk. +--- 57888569 +>>57888532 +--- 57888576 +I fully transitioned, I am now a woman. +I have her curves <3 +--- 57888578 +>>57888557 +>>57888564 +--- 57888586 +>>57888239 (OP) +>there are people itt who have never seen a vagina irl but they can still own guns + +A sobering thought. +--- 57888590 +>>57888569 +>>57888578 +I believe you, there is no need to post a timestamp I'm sure you were going to +--- 57888593 +>>57888564 +What you need is some nods. +>>57888569 +GripnRip actually good? +--- 57888594 +>shoots stock fully extended +Why not just fucking shoot with a rifle buffer and an A2 stock in the first place then.... +--- 57888596 +>>57888565 +>Allen AEM5 30 cal +No you won't super soaker. You aren't gonna find one in stock. You also can't afford one. +--- 57888604 +Steak and eggs +--- 57888605 +oh wait anon doesnt own the gun with the gripnrip wtf anon. +--- 57888614 +>>57888594 +How do you collapse the A2 when you're transporting it? +>>57888605 +It wasn't obvious with the filename? +--- 57888622 +>>57888596 +>>57888527 +You dont even own guns, loony troon. +>>57888586 +And a lot of people here who will never never have vaginas and can’t own guns due to being underage and/or not-American. +Another sobering thought. +--- 57888632 +>>57888569 +When it does the post guns song and dance just ignore it instead of grabbing pics for leddit +--- 57888634 +>>57888614 +Transport with lowers and uppers separated duh +C'mon man this is too easy +--- 57888656 +>>57888593 +tbf i said want not need. +--- 57888663 +>>57888634 +>hold on jogger, I must assemble my firearm, put the glicky with the switch away for just a moment and we'll continue this disagreement like gentlem-ACK +--- 57888664 +>>57888622 +Woah there settle down timmy tinkler! There are no alibaba AEM5’s out there so you can’t get one +--- 57888683 +>>57888663 +you probably don't drive with your rifle that accessible anyway. more likely to have a handgun on you or within arms reach. i only have my rifle right next to me when im on logging roads or some shit like that. +--- 57888685 +>>57888586 +>not naming them +its ash and sheetzo +--- 57888694 +https://strawpoll.com/polls/poy9W6G2DgJ + +Whatever the winner is is what I get +--- 57888697 +>>57888685 +Ash isn’t a virgin +--- 57888701 +>>57888683 +The reality you face today might not be the reality you face tomorrow +--- 57888705 +>>57888632 +We are being raided by children who got and/or get bullied a lot want to feel the power their school tormentors had over them. I guarantee they are all grossly over or under weight, probably are manlets, cant run a mile and are a pest much like mosquitoes. +>>57888664 +> tranny doesn’t know how the NFA works +Your school bully is chinese aint he? +--- 57888707 +>>57888632 +Usually do but i had to do it this time +--- 57888708 +>>57888697 +he fucks men, he hasnt seen a vagina +--- 57888709 +>>57888565 +arms is based as fuck though +--- 57888718 +>it's another schizo episode +--- 57888721 +>>57888694 +You voted for the 556k you fucking dolt these results are skewed. And you left no option so I could select other and type in you’re a dumbass. Stupid poll +--- 57888727 +>>57888718 +He can't help it +--- 57888732 +>>57888718 +Post gaps +--- 57888737 +>>57888708 +Ash has had Herero sex with many women idk what you’re talking about. +--- 57888744 +>>57888683 +>getting caught lacking on route to the piggly wiggly +Couldn't be me bruh +--- 57888747 +>>57888239 (OP) +I visited Virginia. Love the state. Way too many negros. And tons of drug use. +Would like to have met ASH and give him a hug so he feels ackward. +Didnt get to visit any ranges. Was there for senpai +--- 57888759 +>>57888744 +Niggers can’t afford the piggly wiggly this post is fake +--- 57888762 +>>57888694 +skip all those and get a mini 2 who cares if it has extra flash and is somewhat louder +--- 57888764 +>>57888756 +>loosing +back to ESL classes for you +--- 57888770 +>>57888732 +as with many things, a small gap is a good gap. +--- 57888776 +New meta dropped boys. +--- 57888779 +>>57888744 +thats a big cat. +--- 57888780 +>>57888764 +>im trans and dont own guns but u made typo +--- 57888781 +>>57888780 +not my fault you dont know english, puto +--- 57888786 +>>57888776 +form 1 can is not going to cut it anymore. it's your turn ash. +--- 57888787 +>>57888779 +That’s a sick rifle but why did you choose the sb2 over the rc2? +--- 57888788 +>>57888762 +Rc2 is 6.4". Rc2 mini is 5.0" +A good mid range 5.5" would be nice. +Mini isnt really good. And the fact they charge the same price as a Rc2 is criminal. +-RC2 owner +--- 57888789 +>>57888586 +2d > 3d, change my mind +>protip: you can't +--- 57888792 +>>57888787 +Its not a sick rifle, this is >>57888776 +--- 57888800 +>>57888744 +I like the sizer of your penis +--- 57888808 +>>57888787 +wasnt building a testiclegf clone so i didnt see the point in the rc2. +--- 57888809 +>>57888800 +LWRC stocks are based af, very comfy option +--- 57888810 +>>57888789 +why would we want to change your correct opinion? +--- 57888818 +>>57888776 +Damn the meta rifle is based. +--- 57888819 +>>57888787 +>SB2 +For barrels less then 10" +>>57888786 +Only a retard would form1 a silencer in 2023. There is too many good silencers out there now. Even with its faults the DA new 5.56 can would be superior. +>>57888694 +Voted. Did you abandon the Griffin Armament Dual lock? Curious about its performance +--- 57888825 +>>57888792 +Too rich for my blood +--- 57888828 +>>57888694 +>AIDS isnt an option +--- 57888830 +>>57888721 +I didn't vote at all. +--- 57888836 +>>57888809 +I prefer it over the maxim cuz comfort. They're at most half an inch difference in length. +--- 57888841 +dmt is going to make the wrong choice. you just know it. +--- 57888848 +>>57888830 +Kratomanon isn’t going to like these results +--- 57888853 +>>57888836 +Definitely a good alternative to the standard B5/LMT SOPMOD, tried the Magpul SL one cuz it came on my KAC lower and it was just so shit I offloaded it immediately. +--- 57888859 +>>57888841 +no matter what he chooses someone (me) is going to roast him for it +--- 57888871 +>>57888859 +same +--- 57888875 +>>57888808 +ya + +already pretty close on pulling the trigger on a turdcutter carrier. +--- 57888882 +>>57888853 +No. The KAC lowers come with the SL-S stock. The SL is different. I own both. SL is better +--- 57888885 +Digits and im not gay and get a goth gf +--- 57888889 +>>57888848 +I don’t even do Kratom that much it was just to taper off the heroin and ya if the poll ends up being rc2 then I’ll just take an advance on my cap one card. I was hoping it would be the saker but ig I’m going to have to pony up. I wish I wouldn’t have spent so much money at the ranch rodeo but that’s how the sombrero crinkles +--- 57888905 +>>57888889 +this IS me btw +--- 57888906 +>>57888889 +YOU FUCKED UP +--- 57888909 +>>57888882 +Yeah that thing, couldnt remember the exact one just knew it was an SL-something. The SL line never interested me, especially with the existence of the CTR, tried it on a few factory rifles at shops and it just didnt feel right compared to the CTR or other options. The SL-S was by far the worst, though. +--- 57888910 +>>57888885 +singles and i suck off the first guy i see tonight +--- 57888913 +>>57888888 +--- 57888916 +>>57888756 +actually it’s thatarmsguy now, keep up with the lore chud +--- 57888935 +>>57888909 +I agree. The CTR is great. But lacks cheek support. SL looks gay but is really good. +SL-S is a bulky with battery tubes. +I own the B5 bravo but everyone prefers the Sopmod. Just cant bring myself to buy it. I have way to many stocks. +--- 57888954 +>>57888889 +This isn’t me. I can afford both cans but I have been watching a lot of videos online from dudes like sootch00, pew pew tactical, colion noir, and they all say the saker is not only more durable but quiter and cheap. So wtf is the point. Sure fire shit is old technology I want the best of the best. That’s why I bought an bcm and not some dogwater Danielle defense trash +--- 57888957 +>>57888913 +lmfao +--- 57888960 +>>57888889 +This isn't me and that's why you didn't get digits +--- 57888966 +>>57888935 +Yeah I have a couple SOPMOD stocks and at least a CAR stock sitting around unused right now, its nice to have spares for swapping stuff around though. Swapped my CQBR from my LMT Gen1 SOPMOD to a COLT N1 so now thats sitting in the spare bin. I havent tried the Bravo stocks, just kept with the SOPMODs, tried out one of the VLTOR EMOD stocks too and I can't say that I love it, feels clunky, maybe the IMOD is better. +--- 57888976 +>>57888954 +This isn't me either. I don't talk like a negro zoomer +--- 57888984 +>>57888935 +>>57888966 +go circlejerk in your discord, no one here believes either of you. dumb faggots +--- 57889000 +fellers i dont think i like beer, i think im gonna stick to kratom and pills +--- 57889002 +>>57888871 +>>57888859 +He's not buying a can he's been saying he's going THIS WEEK THIS TIME BRO for a long time it's just not gonna happen +--- 57889003 +>>57888976 +ditch the magnifier already. it's so passe at this point +--- 57889044 +>>57889003 +No +--- 57889049 +>>57889044 +yes. +--- 57889052 +>>57889049 +ditch the sb2 already. it's so passe at this point +--- 57889062 +>>57888762 +>>57888788 +Flow 556K is the best middle ground between RC2 and Mini2. Quieter at the shooter's ear than even the RC2. Louder at the muzzle, but I don't really care if I hurt the ears of the guy I'm shooting at. +--- 57889103 +>>57889062 +Interesting. But its more about muffling the sound coming from the shooter so that its more difficult to pin point the area where the shot came from. +Im not trying to create an argument. Flow through has the advantage of not dumping gas in a shooters face.(unlike Saker and Turbo series) +It really is a comprimise. Sound has to go somehere. Either high back pressure and low exit DB. Or low back pressure, high exit DB. +If the NFA didnt exist id buy two more cans. I just got done with the form1 process. Forgot how much a pain in the ass it all is. My point being yes you should pick the best can you can afford. So RC2 or OSS/Huxwrx would be a good choice. I hear good things aboit Turbo series. But not a fan of gassy cans. +But no doubt if the SC struck down the NFA. The market would be flooded with cheap cans. +--- 57889105 +>>57888732 +Mines narrower +--- 57889110 +All I know is TesticleGF has an RC2 so I don't want one. +--- 57889120 +>>57889110 +She's so pretty +--- 57889128 +>>57889062 +What is the best can for masking my position at night from 150 yards away while ambushing IRS agents in Minecraft? +This is a serious question +--- 57889136 +>>57888954 +Half those dudes are straight up leviathan shills. Ideally you could get some trigger time behind them cans to see which you like, but in lieu of that if its good enough for socom its probably good enough for you +--- 57889139 +>>57889062 +I had a sperg moment. Just reread your post. You were literally answering my post about a middle ground suppressor. +Yeah, 5.5" is a good length. +--- 57889146 +>>57889128 +fake dmt +--- 57889149 +>>57888935 +Tell him to post guns and he goes quiet real fast +--- 57889154 +>>57889128 +>all this dick but no bussy +--- 57889155 +>>57889062 +Mini 2 has less flash than 556k, It's actually pretty impressive flash reduction for a K can, there is a video on /r/nfa of the comparison of like a half dozen cans on a 12.5 SBR at night. +--- 57889166 +Should I get an LMT upper and lower for this. I know they don't really matter, but the only really cheap parts on this are the receivers. +>inb4 light sucks +--- 57889169 +>>57889155 +I saw that video and there was no 556k in it unless there's another one +--- 57889174 +>>57889166 +>wanting to waste an LMT set on that pile of shit +kys +--- 57889178 +>>57889136 +If I recieve my rc2, and find that the blowback is terrible, or that it ruins my ejection, what steps can I take to fix it? +I know the first thing is to get a less gaped gas port but if I didn't want to take off my rail could I just buy a heavier bcg and buffer, and get a gas buster Ch? +--- 57889180 +>>57889169 +556k wasn't in the video, no, but I've seen other videos of the 556k flash testing and it was not very good, not terrible but not as good as rc2 by a good margin. +--- 57889183 +>>57889155 +Eh in my experience the mini had more flash but not by much. +--- 57889187 +>>57889174 +What's shitty on it? +--- 57889189 +>>57889103 +>But its more about muffling the sound coming from the shooter so that its more difficult to pin point the area where the shot came from +Yeah, the RC2 really excels at that. Besides, high speed dudes doing covert shit are all wearing earpro anyway, so a can that's louder at the shooter's ear isn't really a problem. + +>>57889155 +Do you have a link to that post? Surefire cans tend to have excellent flash suppression, and I would assume flow-through cans to not do as well simply due to the design. Extremely low backpressure is going to come with some tradeoffs, there's no way around it. Although I suppose someone will figure out how to cut down on flow-through flash better eventually. +--- 57889194 +>>57889187 +the entire thing +--- 57889203 +>>57889180 +The flow does better than the mini with flash but the RC2 is better than both by a wide margin +--- 57889205 +>>57889187 +Nothing anon. +Just noguns seething at hasguns. +--- 57889208 +>>57888444 +Based and checked +--- 57889210 +>>57889155 +Not him. But flow through is the future. Right now we are in mid tier moment in time. Kinda like Apple ipod just got released. If the market keeps buying cans the tech will improve until a new breakthrough happens. Given its really fluid dynamics. A computer will eventully poop out a good design. +It doesnt help that the NFA exists. It really is holding back the tech. +I was in a LGS and a guy wanted to buy a silncer. (he had the cash). Dude literally never heard of the NFA. Got the sour look when they explained all the bullshit to him . Told him come back with a tax stamp and you cam take it home. Basically a lost sale. +Remove the NFA and a metric fuckton of sales will happen. Then the flood of cash will produce better cans. +--- 57889215 +>>57889189 +see my 12.5>>57889183 +the flow has flash hider tines on the end to help with that. Obviously not as good as something like an RC2 but it does well for a K can. +--- 57889221 +>>57889178 +Start with a h2 and tubbs flatwire +I have a bootleg adjustable bcg in mine and think it really helps to vent some of the gas out, getting perfect 3-4 ejection running m193 suppressed on the 2nd setting. I have no experience with adjustable gas blocks but the conclusion seems to be that they suck and carbon lock +--- 57889248 +>>57889221 +Weird. Im running a Rc2+bootleg+H2+tubbs flatwire on a 11.5 +(Setting low backpresure suppressed) +Gun is basically a .22LR level of recoil. +--- 57889253 +>>57889183 +>>57889215 +That's not too bad. Probably looks a little worse in pitch black darkness, but considering the flow-through design, it's doing well enough. +--- 57889263 +>>57889183 +>in my experience the mini had more flash but not by much +You're comparing the 556k to the mini? As in the mini had more flash? Because I from what data I've seen, it doesn't appear that way at all. Quite the opposite, the mini and rc2 series main priority is reducing flash, where as the priority of the flow is to reduce gas blowback/pressure. There's by nature going to be some give and take, also in the video you posted, that's noticeable flash in a well lit room, imagine the flash at night with somebody with nods. Not good performance in my opinion. It does what it's supposed to do though, which is reduce gas blowback by a considerable bit. + +>pic related +--- 57889274 +Anyone know if bendy bills new bendy barrels are worth a shit? Wanna do a ris 2 with the geiselle 13.9 barrel since it’s chrome lined with a good profile +--- 57889286 +>>57889263 +You look like the Sage Dynamics guy. Its ok, I will keep your secret. You make great videos man! Hop is still the Goat though +--- 57889287 +>>57889274 +Just buy ddanon’s upper. +--- 57889289 +>>57889263 +The surefire mini throws fireballs at night, it's not even close to the flash performance of an RC2. Also Aaron was testing that on a 10.3 which isn't a good length for any k can. +--- 57889290 +>>57889274 +Just get a known good barrel from the start, let somebody else be the guinea pig +--- 57889302 +>>57889286 +That is sage dynamics. I just took the picture from a post. +--- 57889305 +>>57889289 +Mini was designed for 14.5s. Would like to see one tested on a 13.9 and 12.5 +--- 57889310 +>>57889044 +This isn’t me +--- 57889311 +>>57889289 +Yes, but even in the video I was referencing earlier the mini 2 isn't designed for 12.5 sbr's either, its for 14.5+ and it still did great. +--- 57889313 +>>57889263 +Pew science guy got different results on an 11.5 +https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjOBv7vg0v5/?igshid=NjZiMGI4OTY%3D +--- 57889314 +>>57889302 +Damn. Thought it was him. Secretly posting his hatred of nogs and joohs. +--- 57889321 +>>57889263 +I wonder what ammo Aaron was using in this video. Basic M193 range shit is always going to have more flash than your Black Hills or Speer Gold Dot stuff. + +>>57889274 +Do not buy Bill's 13.9 barrel. G-Tax website says they use a .081 gas port on it, and that is STUPID gaped. My Criterion Core 13.9's gas port measured .076 (most people say their 13.9 Core measured .077, but maybe Criterion shrank it a little, idk). Centurion's lightweight profile 13.9 uses a .074 gas port. +--- 57889330 +>>57889310 +This isn't me +--- 57889341 +>>57889248 +>>57889248 +3rd setting? My experience has been similar to his with 2 being the sweet spot thru a few uppers with h2 + fancy spring without getting it so soft that it spoils me. Its designed around a std carbine buffer anyway I think. +--- 57889342 +>>57889313 +>>57889321 +I'm thinking the ammo has a lot to do with it, training ammo being under powered and having less propellant probably leads to it having less flash, full power ammo might produce more flash. But according to what Sage dynamics said, most of the time the flow 556k did well suppressing the flash, but occasionally it would shoot a huge fireball out when gasses built up. That's not a good thing for any serious use. +--- 57889344 +>>57889321 +Can you recommend a gauge that you use to measure gas port size? +--- 57889359 +>> 57889290 +Cool so can you post one?.. Not copy pasting reddit recommendations I’m talking photographic evidence of a good barreled upper like that sr15 you claim to have. +--- 57889362 +>>57889344 +I like a 69mm gas port +--- 57889365 +>>57889342 +The flow on a 14.5 has almost zero flash. Short cans like that and the mini shouldn’t be used on sbrs +--- 57889375 +>>57889110 +Reminder: seeing shit like this made vicious try to troon out lmao. +--- 57889389 +>>57889342 +Basic milspec M193 and M855 are still "full power." They tend to use lower quality powder than gucci shit like Black Hills and Speer Gold Dots. Those rounds tend to use better powders that produce less flash. + +>>57889344 +I used a digital caliper. My Core 13.9 measured a little under .076, so I imagine with proper pin gauges it would measure .076. You can buy pin gauges at any tool store (or even Amazon). +--- 57889392 +>>57889365 +I agree, but I think the mini 2 has better flash performance than /arg/ realizes. The priority of it's design is still signature reduction. +--- 57889405 +>>57889110 +Oh no some demonic looking leviathan group funded eceleb groomer has BCM products time to throw my grip away +--- 57889410 +>>57889375 +Vicious trooned out after he spent spring break in Daytona beach with me. He ate my asshole and said it tasted like a savage garden. I was chill with fucking but when he started writing me love letters it got weird. +--- 57889414 +>>57889389 +>Basic milspec M193 and M855 are still "full power." They tend to use lower quality powder than gucci shit like Black Hills and Speer Gold Dots. Those rounds tend to use better powders that produce less flash. +Yep, m855a1 has flash suppressant powder as well, and probably makes both cans look completely no flash. Ammo has a lot of play in the flash here so we can't really know unless they are all tested on the same gun with the same ammo. But I still think based on what I've seen the mini 2 has pretty good flash suppression for what it is. +--- 57889429 +>>57889410 +This isn’t me +--- 57889441 +>>57889389 +Thanks. No matter what I do my bcm barrels recoil impulse is harsh. Even with H2 and flat wire spring. 14.5 middy. +About to sell that upper and roll it into a DD. I may try a reduced gas tube first. +--- 57889465 +>>57889441 +Bcm barrels are cash no reason to talk shit +--- 57889480 +>>57889465 +they've had some questionable QC before. But they are fairly consistent. +--- 57889483 +>>57889441 +It's really that gassy? I thought BCM used a .076 gas port on their 14.5 middies? .076 is pretty industry standard for 14.5 middies. DD and Hodge both use .076 on their 14.5 middies. Geissele too (which makes their .081 13.9 even more of a fucking mystery). +--- 57889487 +>>57889465 +This isnt me. +--- 57889495 +>>57889483 +>>57889441 +https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tXunBDX5Gaz87BqxwNxDUlWNK9nEv-cZEQoLq2JXXrk/htmlview# +--- 57889513 +>>57889379 +yea 2 usually got it to where the gun wouldn't fully cycle without the can, but would still send the bcg back a little. 3:00 sounds about right. currently using an E-carrier since I like to occasionally rattle the fluoride crystals off my pineal gland with the sfmb without having to adjust anything. but the bootleg is definitely better even on 2 than the e-carrier so i might go back. +--- 57889531 +>>57889495 +Oh I've seen this before. Good resource. Only entry for BCM 14.5 mid says .076 from 2016. Strange that anon's 14.5 feels so punchy. + +LOL @ BCM's 11.5s all being .070+ though. GAPED. +--- 57889532 +I dont care what people say it should be. Im telling you its over gassed. +I bought the upper in 2017. 14.5 middy. Its the most gassy upper I own. +--- 57889540 +>>57889532 +Im gassy rn. +--- 57889547 +>>57889531 +Yep its also midlength 14.5. +--- 57889569 +>>57889531 +Thats why my 11.5 bcm has a spikes FN 11.5 barrel. I learned from the bcm 14.5 being over gassed. +>>57889513 +I dont know why you would be on setting 2. Suppressed and setting 3 are for suppressed use. +And yeah it wont cycle sans suppressor on setting 3. So using a screw driver is required. However in any shtf situation I would be running the can. +--- 57889593 +>>57889110 +I watched her video on lead exposure. Well done. Im not going to hate on someone who is pro gun just bc shes trans. Im over it. This budlight shit is dumb. +Government is corrupt and all the right cares about is boycotting beer like its a some moral victory. +Wont lift a finger to undo gun bans. +--- 57889619 +>>57889593 +cool, now kys +--- 57889630 +>>57889593 +>her +>all the right cares about is boycotting beer like its a some moral victory +The "right" is like any other large group of people. A handful of intelligent people doing good work amongst a whole fuckload of low IQ losers. + +Also Tacticool Tranny is pro-gun for leftoid lunatics. "She" isn't pro-gun for right wingers because "she" believes right wingers want to use their guns to mass murder creatures like "her." +--- 57889653 +>i just dont care about trannies or anything really my lifes a mess +--- 57889666 +I’m in Washington and it’s likely that we’re going to get an assault weapon ban very soon. In preparation, I already bought my first few new ar15s (they were all complete guns). But now I kind of want a semiauto in .308, so I’m thinking about getting an ar10. Can I go to a gun store and buy a complete lower and complete upper and walk out of the store with my guns (without the 10 day waiting period?) so all is need to do is find a gun store with a complete lower and upper in stock? +--- 57889679 +>>57889666 +Yeah +--- 57889693 +>>57889666 +Call your LGS, Satan. +--- 57889716 +>>57889666 +Move +--- 57889719 +>>57889653 +The problem isnt that you don't care the problem is that they make you have to care by shooting up lil kids +--- 57889720 +What is /arg/ drinking tonight? +--- 57889732 +>>57889720 +coffee. I stopped drinking a few months ago. +--- 57889735 +>>57889720 +Tequila +--- 57889743 +>>57888576 +You will never have her curves. +--- 57889749 +>>57889720 +--- 57889753 +>>57889666 +We sure are washingtons of people become new AR owners +--- 57889754 +>>57888239 (OP) +--- 57889772 +>>57889630 +My point is the right is being led by grifters. Nobody cares about boycotting budlight. Its selective outrage becaue its an easy target. +Doent fix the billions of legit problems the US faces +--- 57889782 +>>57889720 +Pacifico. First time having it. Light and meh. Exactly how I visioned it tasting. +--- 57889789 +>>57889772 +And then people like Tucker Carlson fall for """leaked""" Ukranian documents that turn out to just be russian propaganda. Sensationalists are the mouth piece of the party, unfortunately, and they're led along by the grifters because the average red voter is not voting red because they believe in individualism and a small gov but because theyre anti-left. If i wanted to make money hand over fist rn Id just have to come up with a grift and setup a fuckin web shop on etsy or some shit. +--- 57889793 +>>57889666 +Wow, I am satan. Trips of the beast! + +What’s your favorite barrel length for ar10s? I’m thinking 18”. And for quality, I’m thinking aero or POF. +--- 57889799 +>>57889720 +nasty shit +--- 57889803 +>>57889720 +--- 57889804 +>>57889782 +>>57889749 +>>57889735 +Cheers +>>57889732 +bro +--- 57889821 +>>57889804 +oh god...i got a bottle of that stuff from my work's secret santa thing and it was fucking horrid, i like wine but that stuff was swill +--- 57889823 +>>57889789 +>russian propaganda +Lmfao. Those "leaks" are nothing more than a limited hangout by our own gov. It's clear as day to anyone who pays attention to the info the leaky zoomer in question had access to. He had access to stuff he (nor any of his superiors) should've had access to. Limited hangout. +--- 57889830 +>>57889720 +Nothing. I'm going to bed. Gn +--- 57889831 +>>57889789 +Sorry friend im not a liberal. Im very far right. However I see the right is lead by grifters and outrage news anchors like Tucker and Hannity. Who make bank complaining about bad policys from corrupt enept politicians. +To me its one gigantic circlejerk. +I have faith in the public. But none in the system. +--- 57889833 +>>57889720 +Water. +--- 57889834 +>>57889804 +puked on the carpet one too many times drinking whole bottles of moonshine in a night. +--- 57889838 +>>57889823 +>stuff he (nor any of his superiors) should've had access to +I meant never should've had access to. +--- 57889841 +>>57889793 +If you're shitshooting on the daily, get a chrome/moly barrel. If it's your "go to" annual zero/shtf learperatorboogaroo rifle, get stainless. BA, Criterion, White Oak, Noveske, etc. etc. FF handguard, 5-25x optic with a red dot and a bipod and u should be good to go +--- 57889885 +guys im serious what fleshlight do i go with since BadDragon is out of stock perpetually? +it has to match my ar15 +--- 57889897 +>>57889831 +its the sad state of affairs we have to deal with, with the people currently acting and speaking on behalf of the GOP, we're just going to continue to lose races, which means flipping states, which means losing the electoral college, the flow of faggots from places like CA who infest states is insane and we're unfortunately losing the culture war long-term. i mean fucks sake, look at poor texas, that cuck beto is polling over 40%. in TEXAS. FUCKING TEXAS. the WORST gun grabber (that isnt on death's door, fuck you feinstein) could one day be GOVERNOR OF FUCKING TEXAS. +--- 57889904 +>>57889841 +I already spent like $6k getting my ar15s+gun safe so I don’t want to spend a huge amount on yet another rifle. What’s the best ar10 I can get for $1000, $1500, $2000? Also, can I ask a gun store to disassemble a complete gun into a lower and upper so I don’t need to wait the 10 days, or is that illegal/sketchy? +--- 57889914 +>>57889904 +>can I ask a gun store to disassemble a complete gun into a lower and upper so I don’t need to wait the 10 days, or is that illegal/sketchy? +yeah nobody is gonna do that because it aint legal lmao +--- 57889915 +what are yall using for self defense ammo? +--- 57889922 +>>57889841 +Compass Lake turned Bartlein or Krieger is the go-to for stainless match grade barrels +--- 57889923 +>>57889720 +green tea + +On a side note I ate over a pound of broccoli yesterday and ripped ass thirty minutes ago. I can still smell it. It was the most vile and repulsive assgas I have ever smelled. It made me gag. I used to pump septic tanks and yet I have never smelled anything so inhumane. + +Just thought you guys should know. +--- 57889931 +>>57889915 +--- 57889935 +>>57889904 +Priority should be +1. Barrel + Optic + Ammo Quality +2. Everything else +Happy hunting +--- 57889956 +>>57889915 +Speer gold dots 9mm +M193 for 5.56 +Im reading serious doubts about HPs in pistol calibers. Problem is getting a projectile to expand in a non controlled setting. Not all bullets expand. So FMJ has some advantages. +If a 9mm expands with modern tips its going to deliver a lethal wound +--- 57889967 +>>57889834 +--- 57889983 +>>57889922 +Ah ty anon +>>57889931 +unfathomably based +--- 57890017 +Where ddnigger? +--- 57890036 +>>57889915 +.223 Speer gold dot 75gr +.45 Winchester ranger t series 230gr +P +12 gauge hornady critical defense 00 buck +bad dragon Rex XL onyx with gold dazzle, unlubed +--- 57890046 +>>57889935 +Optics aren’t part of the ban so I’m going to skip that for now and get one in a few months. actual ‘assault’ rifle parts (upper, lower, barrel, spare parts, etc) are all going to be banned so I’m prioritizing those. +--- 57890052 +>>57890017 +still banned for denying the holocaust +--- 57890055 +>>57889833 +nice gordon homie +--- 57890069 +>>57889915 +>>57889931 +>>57889956 +>>57890036 +Any reputable 77 grain 5.56 +--- 57890109 +>>57890052 +Thought it was because he said some fotm anime was bad and that guy got his mod friend to ban him +--- 57890121 +>>57890109 +nah, that's a psyop. He launched a one man racewar and Israel demanded his exile. +--- 57890124 +>>57889885 +tcgf molding thank me later +--- 57890125 +>>57890109 +lets be honest ddetards taste in anime is below average for someone his age +--- 57890131 +>>57890017 +Permanent instagram influencer/redditor. He’s too advanced for us now +--- 57890141 +>>57888521 +>hurr my gun is 1.5 MOA +>shoots off a fucking rock with a bipod +Why didn't you just say that to begin with instead of being a contrarian? +--- 57890147 +>>57889897 +Excuse me, sir, do you not want all of those software engineers to be safe and happy? +--- 57890155 +>>57890125 +I mean, in his defense he said he has Asperger’s so I’m not too surprised his tastes are weird +--- 57890192 +>>57890125 +True but I want him to see that webm and that you have zero humanity if you enjoy watching Moeshitter shows. For most of human history, the stories passed down for generations have largely been epics in the form of religious prose, poetry, or song. This is because people enjoy hearing a good story of heroes and warriors triumphing over evil, getting past obstacles and going on a long journey like the Odyssey or the Epic of Gilgamesh. From these old stories came derivations which birthed genres like comedy, tragedy, satire, romance etc. These ancient stories have persevered in the modern era and has given forth new stories in the anime industry. Shounen as a genre is as big as it is because it has the same themes that make it comparable to an ancient epic. Romance and comedy come after because they too share these characteristics. But with Moetrash, you don't get any of that historical tradition. You have a group of cute girls doing nothing for as many chapters as possible. They do normal life activities like school or hanging out but contextualized with terrible satirical writing from a 40 year old otaku mangaka who never had a social life and thus can only guess how a young japanese girl would act. You as a reader are only observing boring and ordinary people and come away with no sense of awe or wonder. Really, you just consume a fictional character's life like a mindless normalfaggot browsing their favorite celebrity on IG. And while every reader has vicariously lived through the characters they enjoy, what does the moeshitter worship? A hero? A villain? A tragic character? No one. Just a retarded 14 year old chuuni girl written as a terrible overused trope. +I will never watch a single episode of moeshit ever in my entire life. +--- 57890211 +>>57890147 +no, i want them to all fuck off back to california and leave the rest of the country alone +--- 57890213 +>>57890192 +--- 57890271 +Hey /arg/, newbie question here. +Left hand is a Wyndham 20" BCG w/ roughly 1-1.5k rounds. +Right hand is an Aero 16" easily pushing north of 2k rounds. + +Should I be worried about the shaving down that's happening? Is the rifle on the left out of spec or is this just something that differs rifle to rifle? +--- 57890289 +>>57890271 +Assuming you're talking about this, don't worry about it, it's just the finish getting worn which is natural and doesn't hurt anything. +--- 57890291 +>>57890271 +With flash and right orientation. +--- 57890300 +>>57890017 +Is the ring screwed into the mount tight enough +--- 57890303 +>>57890271 +It's only a problem when it becomes a problem. These parts were designed to be field expedient for a reason. I'd worry more about how much ammo I have for the coming shitshow +--- 57890307 +>>57890289 +Wasn't very clear in my post my bad, I meant this edge right here, is this normal? +--- 57890315 +>>57890303 +No 77gr near me I'm doomed to get hellfire'd in DWOT +--- 57890320 +>>57890017 +Same thing happened to me. Next time it happens I'm starting an RMA process but instead sending a literal piece of dog shit with a letter saying "I threw away your rings, but I think this gets my point across". +--- 57890329 +>>57890315 +Your LGS can't receive ammo for you? +--- 57890361 +>>57890329 +They can just don't know what to stock up on, can't get any to try out and see what works nice. +--- 57890399 +>>57890361 +Just get a metric shit ton of 55gr. It'll be useful for bargaining. Same with canned food. Both are equally important for the next 10 years. +--- 57890433 +>>57890307 +Can you get a more straight on pic? +--- 57890454 +>haven't touched /k/ in months +>return to see the resident bedpisser still fuming over getting meme'd on +Kek +--- 57890498 +How good/bad did I do? +--- 57890552 +>>57890307 +take your meds +--- 57890593 +>>haven't touched /k/ in months +>>return to see the resident bedpisser still fuming over getting meme'd on +>Kek +--- 57890637 +>>57890320 +Think I’m going just gonna settle with Warne since I don’t want to order something online and my only other local option is vorkeks +--- 57890643 +Can anyone ID the MC:A tops they're wearing? I gather either Crye ATO or Wild Things +--- 57890686 +>>57890643 +Could be this, but hard to know for sure with just a picture of the back of the shoulder. + +https://ottegear.com/products/super-l-windshirt-v2 +--- 57890731 +I'm a racist +--- 57890732 +>>57890454 +yeah its always a good time to mog the piss boy +--- 57890766 +>>57890731 +Because I love racing +--- 57890872 +>57890732 +>57890454 +Shoo shoo, drama obsessed troon. Dont you have some kids to be grooming on discord? +>>57890731 +I need to replace to peacegeek bipod, what're you using? +--- 57890876 +>>57890872 +Atlas with a Magpul mount +--- 57890878 +>>57890766 +what do you even do with those nods fat boy? +--- 57890886 +I'm installing the BCM Mod 3 grip, Badger ordnance c1 ambi safety WITH 90 degree throw, and a new pdq lever. Feels good boys. +--- 57890891 +>>57890878 +Mainly night walks, looking for animals near my chickens, stargazing +--- 57890913 +>>57889720 +Kratom +--- 57890926 +>>57890876 +Meh I think I’ll go with a Harris on a Larue QD in two more weeks idk. My rifle is inspired by the MK12s of Big Green and wuggy (pic related) along with your SPR. +>>57890886 +I almost made my SN25 into a tranbi lower but what with all the DPMS/Armalite/LR308 pattern incompatibility bullshit I’ll just stick to an ambidextrous safety for the time being, got a 416 ambi mag catch from black ops defense but I cant punch my bolt catch anymore because big button. +I also bought the ergo because of your posts and I like it more than the magpul grip. +--- 57890990 +>>57890498 +You did good, but holy fuck I'm so glad I live in a state with no sales tax. +--- 57891031 +>>57890990 +Montana, Delaware, or NH? +--- 57891047 +>>57890891 +*night waddles +--- 57891068 +>>57890926 +ergo based +--- 57891101 +>>57891047 +*wholesome night waddles +--- 57891129 +5.56 Is a glorified 22lr cartridge. +change my mind +--- 57891134 +I an a slave to my addictions and my sins are inescapable. I only wish those to learn from my mistakes and never slip in your devotions for its a slippery slope to hell +--- 57891143 +>>57891129 +yes, we all know it's an upscaled .22 but it sure kills good +--- 57891148 +>>57891129 +You must be shooting some impressive 22lr +--- 57891167 +Can anyone recommend a good full auto rated .30 cal suppressor that's still very quiet? +--- 57891168 +>>57891031 +NH + +>>57891148 +>wears hat that says "paramedic" +>screams for a medic +Pottery. +--- 57891169 +>>57891167 +bofa dese, nigger +--- 57891183 +>>57891167 +mine +ive FA mag dumped it more times than i can remember +--- 57891194 +>>57891183 +dont care +--- 57891195 +>>57891068 +I really don’t like fagpul and was tricked into buying one, I guess I’m a stupid goy! +Had I actually felt it before buying I would have just ordered another BCM from PA and been patient. +Texture: BCM>ergo>fagpul +Material: ergo>BCM>fagpul +Storage: BCM>ergo>fagpul +Feel: BCM>ergo>fagpul +Angle: ergo>BCM>fagpul +I intentionally upload low quality pictures at this point but can not take a new one of my tranbi lower with the H&K brand mag catch because my phone light kaboom so here’s a cool little jumping spider who got this mosquito off me. +>>57891134 +Oh. +--- 57891196 +>>57891183 +Which one +--- 57891205 +>>57891195 +magpul is GOAT, you're just a clout chasing nigger that thinks his opinions matter. What the fuck do you know +--- 57891207 +>>57890926 +I like the ergo more, I just had to dremel the fuck out of the bcm mod 3 because the little trigger guard nub was preventing it from locking in more tightly to the lower. I got for 14 bucks though on a deal for the safety. Otherwise I'd have bought a Ergo as well. This is for another gun that just had an a2 grip on it. So its better than that old thing. +--- 57891215 +>>57891195 +>muh angle +>muh ergo +>muh feel +>muh soul +>muh heart +kys +--- 57891234 +>>57891196 +my form1 i made with my gunsmithing school knowledge and tap&die +--- 57891258 +I need to replace the incandescent nitrolon light strapped to my old budget M4gery with some long discontinued vltor mount. What's the current meta? I'm not worried about MAX LUMENS, though I would like a tape switch. +--- 57891265 +>>57891258 +streamlight rm2 +--- 57891273 +>>57891205 +he knows how much liquid a mattress can hold +--- 57891311 +>>57891205 +>What the fuck do you know +Yeah I mean of the four aforementioned grips I own (BCM, Ergo, the stock A2 and f*gpul) I listed my personal preference from most to least favorite so I dunno. +>57891273 +This user is underage verification not required this window will close in three seconds +>>57891207 +Had I known grip plugs for A2 grips were a thing I’d have bought that instead. Turdgo grip is on the aero tranbi which made putting it on/off safe a little rougher, the BCM is on the SN25 and magpul is in the trash. +--- 57891325 +>>57891168 +>NH +How do you like it there? Any land to shoot on that isn't all woods? +--- 57891408 +>>57891215 +Maybe I just like BCM, Ergo and even the A2 stock grip more than fagpul. If I was a sovlfag I never would have bought an aftermarket grip. +>>57890766 +When will you make an AR-10? +--- 57891441 +>>57891325 +no public land whatsoever. +also, fuck off we’re full +--- 57891497 +>>57891234 +Form 1? +--- 57891521 +>>57891134 +I want a cat but afraid it might claw out my eyes +--- 57891530 +>>57891234 +Also wut school anon +--- 57891556 +Magpul K2 is GOAT. The B5 grip is good too. BCM grip is for those suffering from autogynephilia. +--- 57891575 +>>57891325 +I like NH enough. Shooting in the woods is fun. Here, you either shoot at a spot in the woods that you never tell anyone about, shoot on your own land, or begrudgingly shoot at an indoor range. Most of the private ranges are owned by boomer fudds who treat it as a social club and don't want any "rapid" fire. Really lame. +--- 57891590 +2 more days until meteor shower boys. Will be cool. +--- 57891596 +>>57891311 +>Had I known grip plugs for A2 grips were a thing I’d have bought that instead. Turdgo grip is on the aero tranbi which made putting it on/off safe a little rougher +You don't like ergo? Why not? I think they are comfy. +--- 57891619 +It's finally done, took for fucking ever to install everything because I had to dremel the BCM grip to get it fit tightly to the lower. Installing the small role pins in the c1 safety was kind of annoying, but dremeling the lower for the PDQ was a pain in the ass this time, because I couldn't figure out what the fuck was catching when I went to test the PDQ fitment. It was catching on a the side of the bolt catch channel, went back like 3 times dremeling it slightly wider, then I figured out it was on the opposite side of channel and not the one I had been shaving. Now its nice and buttery smooth though. I enjoy the safety a lot. Also got the GG&G riser and its very nice for the eotech, much nicer to shoulder and find the dot quicker without bending my neck. + +Just waiting on a SD3G trigger to arrive from black hawk armory, they are slow as molasses. +--- 57891632 +>>57891590 +You got duals for watching meteor showers? dude that couldn't be more of a waste of money. Imma mog you in like 9 months when I buy some pvs 31's from saving all my money after going through special warfare training course in the airforce. +--- 57891653 +>>57891556 +Oh no some devil worshiping tranny eceleb has a BCM upper. Better sell all my Bravo Company Manufacturing products like my BCM gunfighter ® mod 3 pistol grip for AR15/AR10AR/9 platforms even though I’m supposed to be the guy who makes anti BCM posts according to headcanon. +>>57891596 +> You don't like ergo? +I do like ergo though + >Why not? +> I think they are comfy. +I lost the plug for storing my go-go caffeine pills. diff --git a/k/57888263.txt b/k/57888263.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e16eb71f03998a826309bad14c380a4f970ab5a7 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57888263.txt @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@ +----- +--- 57888263 +What commercially-available ammo has ballistics similar to the Sig Fury? Is there such a thing? +--- 57888264 +>>57888263 (OP) +.308 +--- 57888278 +>>57888263 (OP) +.270 Winchester +--- 57888345 +>>57888263 (OP) +Yeah but .270 win needs a 20-24" barrel to match what .277 fury does in a 15-16" barrel. +--- 57888362 +>>57888264 +Which is very similar to 7.62x51 NATO. The Sig Spear comes in 7.62x51. 308 receivers can chamber 7.62x51 but not vice-versa. Both can be fired in an AR-10. +--- 57888448 +>>57888345 +meant for >>57888278 +--- 57888536 +>>57888263 (OP) +260 or 243 win? +--- 57888970 +>>57888345 +Well, yeah. Fury can handle like 130% the pressure of typical consumer rounds. You’re not going to find anything commonly available that matches it out of short barrels +--- 57889659 +Umm…270 win is near to the largest AR-10s can go, just 1 or 2(?) steps down from 300 win mag. Does having a little steel base ring really let you make such a super-hot round? Why are they just NOW showing up? Manufacturing just super hidebound and archaic? Outside of a military contract no one wants to invest into high-end ammo manufacturing? +--- 57889953 +>>57889659 +>Does having a little steel base ring really let you make such a super-hot round? +we'll find out if and when US army guns start blowing up. The fact they're barely using it and sticking with brass case lower pressure ammo for most shooting is not reassuring. +>Why are they just NOW showing up? +Because before now if the Army said "we want you to a push a 6.8mm projectile at 3000 FPS from a carbine" the answer would be "holy fuck are you guys high" +--- 57890015 +>>57889659 +Yes, it’s a substantial upgrade in case pressure. Means you can burn the same amount of powder faster and get pissing hot performance out of carbine barrel lengths +--- 57890016 +>>57888263 (OP) +It is literally 7mm-08 +--- 57890037 +>>57890015 +And by “same amount of powder”, I mean gas volume equivalency +--- 57890097 +>>57890016 +No it's not. 6.8 furry is pushing a 150gr projectile at 3000 fps with a 13" barrel. 7mm-08 isn't doing that with a barrel of twice the length. +--- 57890479 +6.8x51 IS commercially available. With equal bullet weights it should have equal (external) ballistics to the military loads diff --git a/k/57888280.txt b/k/57888280.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..15ec6e4d5e6cacbc5c940497cfc17ad2a5c119ed --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57888280.txt @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +----- +--- 57888280 +Would /k/ommandos follow a woman leader into battle? +--- 57888287 +>>57888280 (OP) +no women shouldnt be allowed to vote or drive let alone lead people +--- 57888311 +Yes. I'd be less comfortable counting on a woman to shoulder the same physical burdens, but leadership I have no problem with. +--- 57888372 +>>57888287 +Not even Milunka Savić? +https://www.military.com/history/most-decorated-female-soldier-history-of-modern-warfare.html +--- 57889989 +>>57888280 (OP) +Depends on how good of a leader she is +I would follow pic related through the gates of hell itself, for example +--- 57890026 +>>57888287 +Oof. Identifying yourself as having 1 braincell is a pretty good self-own +--- 57890078 +wouldn't be my first choice +--- 57890137 +>>57888280 (OP) +Absolutely not. I have never known a woman to handle adverse pressure. +--- 57890298 +>>57888280 (OP) +maybe if it was a white woman. +--- 57890339 +>>57888280 (OP) + +only if she has a nice butt you can appreciate from behind +--- 57890351 +>>57888280 (OP) +Does Joan of Arc count? +--- 57890357 +>>57888280 (OP) +Depends if she agrees to sit on my face if we lived +--- 57890363 +>>57890026 +He's not wrong faggot, if you knew anything about women you'd know this. +--- 57890364 +>>57888280 (OP) +No. +--- 57890374 +>>57888280 (OP) +I have seen way too many things run into the ground by women to trust their leadership. +--- 57890388 +>>57890351 +Why wouldn’t she. +--- 57890403 +>>57890374 +The History channel, General Motors, Budweiser of course. +--- 57890408 +Generally no unless she was an absolute hulk of a woman. They are generally better suited for support roles. This is a blanket statement. There are always exceptions but if you put them side by side with their male counterparts then you would see that in a physical level they just aren't as capable. +--- 57890410 +>>57890403 +Budweiser was never good. +--- 57890426 +>>57888280 (OP) +If they're competent sure. +I value competence over a vagina and you should too. +But honestly there aren't a lot of women like that, they're pretty rare. +--- 57890428 +>>57890410 +No they weren't, but some of their brands were alright. Busch beer had a special place in my liver though. +--- 57890453 +>>57890026 +>Oof +You have to go back, retard. +--- 57890459 +>>57890403 +I was talking about my own personal experiences, but good to have more widely known examples. I don't think all women are incompetent leaders, but in this girl power era it seems all to easy for dumb hoes to get into positions of power. What people fail to understand is that we never excluded women from careers or leadership entirely; even in the "patriarchal" past women could do those things if they proved their prowess would make it worth letting them forgo homemaking and childrearing. +--- 57890474 +>>57888280 (OP) +Only in anime +--- 57890539 +>>57889989 +She'll just scream random Japanese words at you that you don't understand and you'll end up walking into a lake or something. +--- 57890733 +>>57890539 +So long as by doing so I serve the cause of preserving humanity that works for me +--- 57890899 +>>57888280 (OP) +Imagine the sweety smeels +--- 57890947 +>>57888280 (OP) +Well, yeah, so I can smell her hair haha +--- 57891155 +>>57890388 +Most /k/ waifu. +--- 57891296 +The majority of people that post here would piss themselves and curl into a ball during a gunfight. I doubt they'd follow anything regardless of sex. +--- 57891511 +>>57890947 +Best post ITT +--- 57891638 +>>57888280 (OP) +no diff --git a/k/57888341.txt b/k/57888341.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..42b32c2aa71a9b94eafc18cb184b7d427d06ae26 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57888341.txt @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@ +----- +--- 57888341 +Does Hungary make good firearms? +--- 57888379 +Better question, + +Are Hungarian women hot and receptive to sex with White American men? +--- 57888395 +>>57888341 (OP) +It's not harmful in moderation, but you should try to go a week without caffeine every now and then so your body can adjust and doesn't become dependent. +--- 57888403 +>>57888379 +Better question, + +What are the tax rates and housing prices in Hungary? +--- 57888406 +>>57888379 +FPBP, this man’s asking what’s important. +--- 57888591 +>>57888403 +Former communist hellhole so probably not good +--- 57888673 +>>57888341 (OP) +tfw no jucika to juice my cock +--- 57888684 +>>57888379 +Better question +Are Hungarian woman receptive to sex with latino muscle dwarves that love j rock and black metal? +--- 57888686 +>>57888673 +(with her armpits) +--- 57888703 +>>57888684 +>latino muscle dwarves that love j rock and black meta +--- 57888736 +Their national dish is onion and dried pepper stew with whatever meat they can catch. +You do the math +--- 57888887 +>>57888703 +Hungarians are slavic. +>>57888736 +Sounds good. +--- 57888899 +>>57888684 +--- 57889275 +>>57888736 +Yummy +--- 57889285 +cat holding a megaphone +--- 57889331 +>>57888341 (OP) +I’d buy a FÉG handgun if it came with a thick Hungarian wife. +--- 57890041 +>>57888341 (OP) +Yes, or at least they did. +>>57889331 +Buy a FEG and find one then take her. Magyar women will once again be war brides kidnapped for the taking. diff --git a/k/57888427.txt b/k/57888427.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1c93828d5680a31f6793756c971370715700f100 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57888427.txt @@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +----- +--- 57888427 +post mis-matched and modified mutts, kit-bashed /k/oncoctions and inane inventions +--- 57888946 +>>57888427 (OP) +--- 57889211 +>>57888946 +you still ain't put a stock on that bitch yet? +--- 57889333 +>>57888427 (OP) +--- 57889589 +>>57889333 +nice trips +--- 57889729 +G L O N G + +>CAPTCHA: M2 WATX +--- 57889869 +This is a suppressed 457 Scout in a 457 Royal stock that I thought looked cool. I wish cz sold those stocks separate, and preferably without the dumb engraving on the side. All the fittings are excellent and it's a pretty wood. +--- 57889930 +>>57889589 +unsure about the zip tie but that does look cool +--- 57889961 +>>57889924 +...is that open bolt? +--- 57889984 +>>57889810 +good god that looks good. If only the sight was better and there was some kind of housing partially around the mag it'd look even better. +--- 57889992 +>>57889961 +Nope, it's a regular Browning action 1911 slide, but the frame is now an AR-15 trigger group. The hammer just hits the 1911 firing pin, then is recocked by the recoiling slide. +--- 57889996 +>>57889961 +No it shoots like a normal 1911 but it's like that flux raider. I would think. +--- 57890011 +>>57889992 +To add, it can't really be full auto with the ar-15 group, as there's no way to trip an auto sear with a 1911 slide. However, binary would be totally possible. +--- 57890100 +>>57889984 +I think it would be neat if someone could make a body kit for a Keltec P50 rotated 90 degrees. +--- 57890110 +>>57889729 +Is that lighter plate +2? +--- 57890150 +>>57889589 +Pps90? +--- 57890250 +>>57890110 +Good question +--- 57890902 +>>57888427 (OP) +Everyone who saw this thumbnail thought the two guns were connected. +--- 57890925 +>>57890100 +Yes diff --git a/k/57888640.txt b/k/57888640.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2e986278e5b670a8ec0eae633b3fed6f006e0093 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57888640.txt @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +----- +--- 57888640 +no flaws +--- 57888661 +>>57888640 (OP) +fde +--- 57888671 +>>57888640 (OP) +I've just never gotten good groups with one. +--- 57888691 +>>57888640 (OP) +>9mm +--- 57890397 +> Hinged trigger is not ideal for new shooters, but if Glock has a patent on the trigger dongle, what can you do? +> Should have been a flat faced trigger from the get-go +> The 1.0 barrel issues should never have happened, period +--- 57890402 +>>57888640 (OP) +Glockfags will immediately pick it apart just because you said this. +--- 57890418 +>>57888640 (OP) +Just don't drop it +--- 57890419 +>>57890397 +what was wrong with the 1.0 barrels? +--- 57890466 +>>57890418 +It isn't a Sig. It doesn't shoot when dropped or holstered aggressively. It also has protection from overinsertion. It also doesn't have a large height over bore. It's also inherently stronger due to being designed for 40S&W from the outset. +--- 57890505 +SIG had to bribe the army to use "modularity" as a requirement to prevent M&P from destroying them in the trials +--- 57890867 +OH BOY THE SIG GUY IS HERE TO BITCH ABOUT SIG LIKE IT'S CZ FROM YEARS GONE +--- 57891038 +>>57890397 +>> Hinged trigger is not ideal for new shooters, but if Glock has a patent on the trigger dongle, what can you do? +If they don't have a patent on Gen 3 Glocks anymore what can they do? +--- 57891110 +>not being sold in yurop diff --git a/k/57888725.txt b/k/57888725.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b991201ad8bd54eab85aca478b15448472e886ad --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57888725.txt @@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +----- +--- 57888725 +So the SSC have shown off their new weapons today and have now claimed they're ready for any drone attacks + +And 15 western nations have now demanded that Somaliland stop it's war or face consequences +The nations were +>Belgium, +>Canada +>Denmark, +>European Union +>Finland, +>France, +>Germany, +>Ireland, +>Italy, +>Netherlands, +>Norway, +>Sweden, +>Türkiye, +>United Kingdom, + >The United States of America +--- 57888733 +>>57888725 (OP) +so somaliland are the high IQ ones right? +--- 57888757 +>>57888733 +Yes +They just have no population to defeat anyone +--- 57888773 +>>57888725 (OP) +>western nations +>Türkiye +I don't disagree with you on my part (Italian, they are second cousing through greeks to me) but you will make the roaches seethe on this. +--- 57888793 +>>57888733 +They also got cool stuff +--- 57888823 +>>57888773 +Istanbul is just a generic European city +--- 57888969 +>>57888823 +"western" has a specific meaning, many east euros or balkan people would also contend. +--- 57888989 +>>57888823 +Here's the western nations official statement +>A group of 15 International Partners (Belgium, Canada, Denmark, European Union, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Türkiye, United Kingdom, and the United States of America) held a joint call with H.E. the President of Somaliland, Muse Bihi Abdi, to discuss the armed conflict in Laascaanood and its severe effects on the population, while we also raised concern about the delayed elections in Somaliland. Partners noted that the worrying situation is seriously impacting discussions about their engagement with Somaliland. +--- 57888997 +>>57888969 +Idk what do you considered western Europe? +I mean +Is it just France the UK Norway and the Benelux? +--- 57889075 +>>57888997 +It's fine man. It can have several interpretations. I mean during the cold war, the geopolitical stance included turkey. +But if you listen to SOME turk and to some turkish politician, westerner is an insult for them and is used to evoke a certain rhetoric. +--- 57889350 +>>57889075 +fair +--- 57891490 +>>57888725 (OP) +So, why did all these nations suddenly decide piracy was a good thing? diff --git a/k/57888746.txt b/k/57888746.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9c64f64f451fa3b5d6e3f32a247c05d95c847790 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57888746.txt @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +----- +--- 57888746 +I filed a BDD claim with the VA as I am separating soon. Tomorrow I have a general evaluation, they'll be going over mostly the musculoskeletal things I claimed, knee pain, neck, previous surgeries I had while serving, etc. + +Any tips and advice? What should I expect? +--- 57888804 +Vomit on your doctor as he or she examines you. + + Like “Exorcist” kinda firehose of puke onto the Quack. + + Can’t hurt, right? + + Good luck, you fuckin’ goldbricking broke-dick. +--- 57888824 +APPROVED! +--- 57888833 +100% disabled, nigga! +--- 57888837 +>>57888746 (OP) +Ham it up. +--- 57889182 +>>57888746 (OP) +Claim somatic symptom disorder because the pain makes it hard to concentrate. + +t. went from 40% to 80%, pending 100%. +--- 57889206 +When it fails, talk to a veteran service officer. They helped me get mine, but this was 8 years ago so they might have a different name or something. +--- 57889500 +>>57888804 +Sadly I don't have the ability to vomit on command...but that would make a badass superpower! +>>57889182 +Sometimes the pain interrupts me. I didn't know you could claim that. Thank you. +>>57889206 +I will definitely check them out! Thank you. +--- 57889515 +>>57888746 (OP) +you should cut you penis off and claim transgenderism +--- 57889521 +can't you just say you have havana symdrome and get the platinum health plan now +--- 57889639 +>>57888746 (OP) +Alright anon, I've only done one VA rotation for medical school but here's the general advice I have. Things are more likely to be covered if they have a clear diagnosis. ICD codes for general pain do exist, but insurance companies really don't like that. So what you need is to be pretty specific with the type of pain you have. A lot of people don't get their benefits specifically because somewhere a doc doesn't actually have a clear diagnosis and the insurance companies aren't willing to cover them guestimating. + +Neurological? That's your burning or needle pains, or weakness and numbness. It can be pretty hard to actually fake weakness, because you can't make your muscles tremble like real weakness can. Look up a dermatome map. Pick whichever one best fits. Oh, you have sore shoulder? Well, have you heard of your axillary nerve? + +Musculoskeletal pain tends to be exaggerated by exercise. It is often rather deep. It tends to be dull and aching. + +Pain that wakes you up at night tends to get regarded with extra clinical suspicion, because usually pain DOESN'T wake people up, believe it or not, unless it's pretty severe. Dull pain tends to keep people awake. Debilitating pain tends to wake people up. However if you go too far with this, some docs may be inclined to put you through a lot more studies and exams. + +I hope you get any benefits you rightfully deserve anon. +--- 57890259 +If you aren't happy with the status they give you talk to a law firm that does VA resubmissions. If they can't improve your % then you pay nothing. If they are able to increase your status then they get a few months of the back pay and that's it. +--- 57890373 +>>57888746 (OP) +>What should I expect? +getting injected with something that will cause to to exire faster. If you cant take care of yourself, nobody can or will! +>Had a big wig Dr. at the hospital had had to go to try to make me take the vaxxxx I told him to stuff it. Found out he's dead now! +--- 57890435 +>>57889500 +Take a breath and swallow at the same time. It's great way to puke +--- 57890557 +You didn't serve in a war, you're not a veteran. You're trying to be a leech off my tax dollars for life. A real nigger, if you will. Make like the 22. +--- 57890644 +>>57890259 +Don't use a law firm unless you absolutely have to. Use a claims increase service that gets compensated based on the percentage they get you increased to. You really don't want to fork over a retainer. + +t. Lawyer who also gibsmaxxes his VA bennies +--- 57890760 +>>57889639 +>Well, have you heard of your axillary nerve? +Inventing some sort of axillary nerve issue is pretty bullshit. He'd be better off following nerve root distributions, or, for the shoulder specifically, something msk such as impingement syndrome or another tendonopathy is much more realistic. + +>>57889500 +>Sometimes the pain interrupts me. I didn't know you could claim that. Thank you. +If the pain causes difficulty sleeping and you have tiredness through the day as a result that might be claimable. Especially if the tiredness causes difficulty driving or concentrating. Either aching pain causing difficulty getting to sleep or twinges and shooting pain if you move your neck in the wrong position. + +If any of the pain is worsened by exertion eg the knee pain then that may impair your ability to work a physical labour job and presumably boost your claim. Similar story if you have pain worsened by sitting for extended periods eg cervical radiculopathy. diff --git a/k/57888813.txt b/k/57888813.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..761ed9db713e65366b21a705ae7220bd7d92b20e --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57888813.txt @@ -0,0 +1,155 @@ +----- +--- 57888845 +>>57888813 (OP) +Is it really a victory when the middle east is getting destabilized again? The taliban also had to make some bargans in regards to conditions that will make the anericans leave. Iran also is cutting off their support for their proxies and any pro iranian political figures in iraq will just get forcefully removed. +--- 57889078 +>>57888845 +Nah things are more stable now than in decades. Iran and Saudi have agreed to stop messing with each other. That means stability to Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen. +--- 57889112 +Anon, this is just a joke. +--- 57889143 +>>57889078 +>stability +No, it does not. It can spell more trouble if a great power(in the region) pulls support. Because it can create more and more factions and infighting to the point it will destabilize the country more. Afghanistan is getting destabilized because of IS-k and also other factors. Iraq is not that much pro Iranian aside from having militias roaming around the country. Syria is not "stable" but in a frozen conflict between multiple different factions. If russia pulls support, then Assad will be in trouble because all Iran can do is just fund ragtag militias. +--- 57889364 +>>57889143 +Reddit tier comment. The situation in Afghanistan is not at all the same as what's just happened in the middle east. Iraq is annexed by Iran in all but name only, the politicians all have Iranian links. Russia doesn't really have a presence in Syria anymore, even Wagner are out. Assad's regime has been stable for years. +--- 57889388 +>>57889364 +>politicians +The iraqis literally forced a pro iranian leader out of office and there was a resurgence of iraqi nationalism. Iran doesn't control shit aside from proxies. If iran truly controls iraq, they wouldn't let iraq host american bases. +--- 57889462 +>>57889388 +As I said, reddit tier education. What do you think the Iraqi protests were about in 2019-2021? They had pro-Iranian politicians replaced by other pro-Iranian politicians. It was pro-Iranian militias involved in crushing them. +>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%932021_Iraqi_protests + +When Soleimani was assassinated all the Iraqi military bases and contractors were kicked out of the country except for 1 base remaining on the far west of Iraq. + +Iraqi parliament just voted to criminalise relations with Israel in May 2022. +>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/26/iraqs-parliament-criminalises-normalization-with-israel + +That is a proxy for telling the world who they are aligned with, which is Iran. You won't see this reported on your precious Reddit news because that website is basically US State Department propaganda and what has happened in Iraq is hugely embarrassing. +--- 57889501 +>>57888813 (OP) +possibly the most unfunny 9/11 joke ever made +--- 57889529 +>>57889501 +it was funny and accurate desu +--- 57889546 +>>57889462 +Is reddit in the room with you right now? + +I'm also curious why you are utilizing wikipedia when your own citation lists ANti-Iranian sentiment as one of the motivators, and Mustafa AL-Kadhimi is now Prime Minister, who you say is a pro-Iranian politician. + +https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/5/7/who-is-mustafa-al-kadhimi-iraqs-new-prime-minister +>Last month, Kataeb Hezbollah, an armed group close to Iran and linked to the Popular Mobilization Units, issued a statement accusing al-Kadhimi of having blood on his hands for the deaths of its leader Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis and Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, and accused him of collaborating with the US. +>Iran and its allied Iraqi Fatah political bloc had previously vetoed al-Kadhimi’s appointment. +To repeat: +>Iran and its allied Iraqi Fatah political bloc had previously vetoed al-Kadhimi’s appointment. + +It mentions he is a pragmatist who tries to cooperate with the US, Iran, and various power-brokers in Iraqi politics. His assassination attempt by drones is widely attributed to the Pro-Iranian militias. + +Now, because you'll accuse me of being a reddit faggot or using reddit sources. Please tell me what sources are acceptable for you because you have cited wikipedia pages that use a wide variety of sources. You fucking nigger. +--- 57889559 +>>57889078 +>Iran and Saudi have agreed to stop messing with each other +When exactly did that happen? +--- 57889584 +>>57888813 (OP) +If you actually knew what us soldiers did to Iraqi and afghan people you would realize it wasn't worth it +--- 57889608 +>>57889559 +it didnt +--- 57889625 +>>57889546 +I read reddit too just because I don't limit myself to 1 information source in an era rife with propaganda. You perception of this is 100% Reddit. The rest of your post is confusing pandering strategies of internal groups which you don't understand. Iraq is under Iran's dominion and has been since about 2007. KRG managed to remain autonomous to that for ages, but even they have been forced to expel Israeli base of operations there. You stink of Reddit. +--- 57889636 +>>57889559 +>>57889608 +do you guys read the news at all? +--- 57889692 +>>57889559 +Didn't really. The anti-American shills took China brokering a peace between Saudis and Iranians in Yemen and inflated it to mean that China, Iran, and Arabs are now super bestest buddies united against America and sharing supertech. In reality, the Saudis ain't gonna stick their necks out for anyone, and the Iranian "control" over the ME is questionable, as they don't have nearly the same level of power projection (or competence) as America, and Vladdy can't prop them up. Ironically, Russia's gung-ho attitude has probably made its allies far more cautious. +--- 57889708 +>>57889636 +it's a load of bullcrap. Iran still funds groups that try to blow up Saudi Oilfields. Just typical russian misinformation +--- 57889710 +>>57888813 (OP) +Hey, come on man you've at least to include the 5,000+ towelheads we beat the shit out of after 9/11. not to mention the mudslime casualty rate +--- 57889765 +>>57889462 +>What do you think the Iraqi protests were about in 2019-2021? They had pro-Iranian politicians replaced by other pro-Iranian politicians. It was pro-Iranian militias involved in crushing them. +Nigger, the protest was exactly about iranians. +>When Soleimani was assassinated all the Iraqi military bases and contractors were kicked out of the country except for 1 base remaining on the far west of Iraq. +But yet, they still have bases that the americans can use to kill iranian targets. Imagine being so cucked that the regions that you "control" has americans striking your forces with impunity. +>Iraqi parliament just voted to criminalise relations with Israel in May 2022. +Why does that matter for the U.S.? Come back when they introduce a bill that criminalizes relations with americans. Stop using Israel to justify your cope because the U.S. doesn't care about that as long as they don't start another 7 day war. +>That is a proxy for telling the world who they are aligned with, which is Iran. You won't see this reported on your precious Reddit news because that website is basically US State Department propaganda and what has happened in Iraq is hugely embarrassing +If they are actually proxies, they would have kicked out the americans, not let americans strike your forces with impunity, make it illegal for relations with americans. And also not have protests that is fueling anti iranian sentiments. +>b-but muh base protests +You mean the protest that was localized and more obvious that its mainly Iranian stooges? +--- 57889767 +>>57889708 +They've just reset relations to 1979. The Saudi King is visiting Iran and president of Iran is visiting Saudi. Read the news idiot. +--- 57889779 +>>57889765 +If I wanted to read stuff like this I'd go to /r/worldnews and ask a tranny to raise their hand +--- 57889795 +>>57889779 +>no argument +>pro iranian cope being demolished while all you got is just "REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT!" +nice argument, retard. IMAGINE, having the regions you control have americans striking your forces with impunity while using your proxies base as a staging ground. Absolutely cucked. So much for "iranian power". An absolute joke. +--- 57889807 +>>57889779 +Go right ahead, it seems like you’d fit in more over there. +--- 57889809 +>Ipost an edited pic for chuckles +>retards go rabid and keep bumping the thread +Kind of crazy how much I run /k/ ngl. My own personal playground. Gaurunteed all the (you)s I want +--- 57890059 +>>57889795 +You're clearly a Zoomer and don't remember the dominance USA has 15 years ago. USA is a joke now +--- 57890091 +>>57888813 (OP) +This thread proves amerilards still seethe over 9/11 +--- 57890242 +>>57890091 +Why wouldn’t they? +--- 57890396 +>>57888813 (OP) +Damn, the Taliban and Iran are on the same team? I guess those skirmishes in the 1990s and in 2021 we’re just to fool the US. +--- 57890462 +>>57890091 +based americans, never forget +--- 57890767 +>>57890396 +>Oh you seriously think UK and USA have good relations in 2023? Ever heard of the war of 1812? +--- 57890962 +9/11 jokes and jokes about dead American soldiers have never been funny. +FUCK OFF +--- 57891009 +>>57889636 +not posting anything proves us right retard +--- 57891033 +>>57890059 +>still with the iranian cope +America still has influence and iranian influence is an absolute joke. If iran actually controls the region, then they wouldn't let their arch enemy waltz in there and killing your proxies left and right without much consequences. They wouldn't let their proxies have a resurgence of nationalism because of how shit their influence are. They wouldn't have their weapons shipments seized and distributed to enemies of your allies. +--- 57891090 +>>57889809 +well you did pick a great time by choosing euro hours to post it +I love the "demoralized vassals" for Israel bit. +I am sure some enraged long nose is gonna notice that and seethe. +>>57889710 +its part of the +>many +goatherders count +--- 57891144 +>>57890767 +>2 years ago vs 200 years ago +--- 57891160 +>>57891144 +>YOU NEED 200 YEARS TO BECOME FRIENDS +--- 57891285 +>>57889078 +>Iran and Saudi have agreed to sto +-pped reading right there diff --git a/k/57889007.txt b/k/57889007.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ee6f18f963a65b88a8010d8a0b06bd03ef8194d2 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889007.txt @@ -0,0 +1,44 @@ +----- +--- 57889007 +name one post-1960 war that wasn't sold as a cheap remake of WWII. +--- 57889026 +>>57889007 (OP) +the arab-israeli wars showed just how far tech travelled, with the armored maneuvers that WW2 generals could only dream of finally being a reality + +the sinai front was fought with tanks as the star, with a strong supporting role from jets who were also able to perform CAS in ways that WW2 planners wanted to do +despite a relatively small front, it was a very mobile war +--- 57889035 +>>57889007 (OP) +Vietnam and Angola were nothing like WWI +--- 57889097 +>>57889007 (OP) +The only one I can think of that is kind of like WW2 is the war on terror +--- 57889134 +>>57889097 +Literally both sides in Ukraine are WWII larping, and it makes up the cornerstone of their propaganda. + +Russia thinks they denazifying, Ukraine and NATO thinks they are fighting Putler. + +Even Wagner and Azov are larping (even if only partially) as Nazis +--- 57889138 +>>57889007 (OP) +India-China border skirmishes are fought with clubs. +--- 57889164 +>>57889007 (OP) +Iran-Iraq war, it was sold as a bootleg WW1. +--- 57889249 +>>57889134 +Big difference though is Ukraine and Russia both don't have suicide bombers I'm WW2 the axis did so it's similar to the war on terror +--- 57889265 +Give it time +--- 57889440 +>>57889007 (OP) +>the arab-israeli wars + +Maybe tech nise but not propaganda-wise at all. + +Israeli propaganda painted Arabs as heirs to the Nazis in antisemitism. Arab propagand painted Israel as another racist ethnostate looking for lebensraum. +--- 57890362 +>>57889249 +neither did the european theater you retard +imagine if china invades taiwan, it would become a proper WWII remake with naval battles in one theater and ground invasion kino in the other diff --git a/k/57889014.txt b/k/57889014.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ac9c5a5fbbff58f560bb1029288853701a8b885f --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889014.txt @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@ +----- +--- 57889014 +I used to work with a guy whose genius idea was that “someone should make a double barrel .22 handgun, because that would be equivalent to getting hit by a .44”. +--- 57889024 +The math checks out +Captcha hywg 22 +--- 57889032 +How is he wrong? +--- 57889042 +I dunno anon, I think he might be on to something +--- 57889079 +>>57889014 (OP) +Volleyguns are based. +--- 57889081 +>>57889014 (OP) +Based +--- 57889167 +>>57889014 (OP) +>it takes 26 .22s to match a single 5.56 +--- 57889186 +You can get that in revolver form for a couple hundred… +--- 57889196 +>>57889014 (OP) +And someone did do that. Total gimmick imo, and it couldn’t even shoot straight. +--- 57889201 +>>57889167 +Gives you an idea of just how devastating the round is ngl +--- 57889361 +>>57889014 (OP) +but its not a .44, its really on at .429, so two .22s would be more than a "44" +--- 57889675 +Kill yourself, frognigger +--- 57891522 +>>57889014 (OP) +Surface area in Square mm of a flat 0.22 diameter circle is around 24.44mm2, X 2 48.88mm2. In reverse that is around 0.31 or 0.32 inch diameter circle. A flat 0.44inch diameter circle has around 108 mm2 of surface area surface area. +Is my autism showing yet diff --git a/k/57889109.txt b/k/57889109.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a16511f06ce25c996fdd41e602d2104d9e17e4cc --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889109.txt @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +----- +--- 57889109 +Is fmj really that ineffective against deer, or is it just another jewish trick? +--- 57889141 +>>57889109 (OP) +Yes, 7.62x39 fmj is absolutely infamous for ice picking, it'll kill a deer but it's very unlikely it'll kill the deer fast and then you're spending potentially hours walking through the forest hoping you can find where the damn thing finally keeled over. +--- 57889144 +>>57889109 (OP) +In the hands of someone who has guns and actually knows how to shoot? Sure it can work, though there isn't any reason to use it in that role either. In your retard fag hands? Well I guess it'll still be fine if you use full auto maybe. +--- 57889695 +>>57889109 (OP) +50 yard kill, 100 yard chase. +Expanding 308 more better. +Also fuck ya mudda. +--- 57889706 +>>57889109 (OP) +Leadfree ammo is better for environment and flavor +--- 57889715 +>>57889706 +You aren't supposed to eat the ammo dummy, you shoot it. +--- 57889731 +>>57889109 (OP) +Yeah i wouldn't use fmj for hunting anything. If you're determined on using 7.62x39 then use soft points. They're great and roughly the same ballistics as 30-30 which has taken probably tens of millions of deer +--- 57890788 +just shoot the deer in the legs then choke it out. Thats what real men do you fags +--- 57891131 +>>57889109 (OP) +It doesnt expand and often goes right through and wounds them. They fuck right off and you end up tracking them for who knows how long Then you get worn out blood shot adrenaline filled garbage meat to eat. + +Or use a .243 with a barnes lrx bullet that DRT's the deer, has no lead contamination, and doesnt destroy meat. + + +Your call bucko. diff --git a/k/57889153.txt b/k/57889153.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c679a70f356cc719e15026694d24332eb1fe0667 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889153.txt @@ -0,0 +1,37 @@ +----- +--- 57889153 +Behold, the Tiger II +--- 57889175 +What could have been..... +--- 57889260 +>>57889175 +The EM can launch Derby's at least. +--- 57889325 +>>57889175 +And fortunately was not. +--- 57889419 +>>57889153 (OP) +Northrop my beloved… +--- 57890875 +>>57889325 + +Shut up faggot +--- 57891118 +>>57889153 (OP) +Fuck your Tiger. Let's talk this Tiger instead +>>57890875 +>Sacrifice payload, ground attack capability, and space for future upgrades for insignificant performance advantages over the F-16 +The only substantial advantage it had was BVR capability, which the F-16 got anyway. +--- 57891124 +>>57891118 +--- 57891514 +>>57889153 (OP) +Its a cute fighter. Wish it got more love. +--- 57891570 +>>57889153 (OP) +>WWII heavy tank +>capable of transforming into a jet fighter +Satan must have had a particularly strong period for the allies to win WWII. +--- 57891694 +>>57889153 (OP) +Isn't it just an f-16 but worse diff --git a/k/57889384.txt b/k/57889384.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..718216e48869e5aeae546fb78c690f9aa7464982 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889384.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 57889384 +Some US states are trying to outlaw the sale of ballistic helmets, so if you want one you are going to have to make your own. I have an idea, but before I go into full production I thought I would solicit some expert K advise. +--- 57889417 +>>57889384 (OP) +I don't think I have enough dough for that helmet. Can someone lend me some bread so I can buy it? +--- 57891214 +>>57889384 (OP) +So this is what the french do with their stale baguettes diff --git a/k/57889402.txt b/k/57889402.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..19ba761caafff62da897d2fa899eb4449b3be55b --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889402.txt @@ -0,0 +1,145 @@ +----- +--- 57889402 +Looks like the Pig got called out. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyWAd1pQiwU [Embed] +--- 57889426 +>>57889402 (OP) +>youtuber on youtuber slapfights + +10 years for this to come back. Took long enough +--- 57889451 +>>57889402 (OP) +Two gay retard never serves talking about war lol +--- 57889466 +Don't care about whatever tranny shit you linked, but that's a sharp looking tank +--- 57889473 +>>57889466 +Basically Red Effect correcting the gay pig on pretty much everything. +--- 57889488 +>>57889466 +too bad it's dogshit that doesn't exist outside of the prototype phase. +--- 57889494 +i don't care about your boyfriend's youtube channel +--- 57889554 +>Red Effect +Yeah, not thanks. +Meanwhile, if you wanna laugh at something, Lazerpig and Adam Something made a video reciting Peruns infographs for 26 minutes. +Verbatim. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPX1CieUkFY [Embed] +They're all retarded shitposters, swear to god. +--- 57889607 +>>57889402 (OP) +Isn't this guy the youtube vatnik that said that the cope cages were actually genius and that javelin was gonna be mostly useless against russian armor? +--- 57889612 +>>57889554 +This is the only redeffect video where he isn't retarded desu. That and his war against Pajeets, that was great. +--- 57889647 +>>57889607 + +Wut? Red Effect is the biggest westaboo there is. +--- 57889707 +>>57889647 +Maybe I'm confusing him with someone else then, wasn't there a fat youtuber that lazerpig got into a pissing fight with that was a huge vatnik? It was on a podcast or something. +--- 57889738 +>>57889707 +Gonzalo Lira? Yea that guy is a literal commie defending Russia's war. +--- 57889739 +>>57889707 +Confusion yes, Red Effect is definitely not a vatnik +--- 57889763 +>>57889738 +Oh ok that was who I was thinking of, my bad, sorry for being retarded anons. +--- 57889788 +>>57889402 (OP) +Again? +--- 57889792 +>>57889402 (OP) +so the T14 is real and is a good tank? Because it being shit and not a real productions tank was lazerpigs point. And if you beleive the t14 is fucking real or a good tank you are delusional. +--- 57889818 +>>57889792 +No, the tank it's still shit. +The problem is that LazerPig pretty much got all his criticisms wrong or straight up bullshit. + +For example he compared the torque of a Honda 4 cilinder engine to a Twin-Turbo Diesel V-12. +Which unless you're a total busrider who never driven a car, it's obviously not true. +--- 57889884 +>>57889818 +i guess hyperbole is too advanced for you? +All I have ever heard that any has substantiated is that he was wrong about which nazi engine the tanks engine was loosely based off of. So please list all the features about the t14 that are amazing and prove lazerpig wrong. +--- 57889933 +>>57889884 +>this reading comprehension + +Hey e-celeb dickrider, i'm saying that he just got his criticisms wrong, the tank it's still shit. So you can stop fuming from your ears now. + +And yes, that fag compared a Honda Jazz engine torque to a TT Diesel V-12 torque, which unless you every driven a car or know engines at all (you don't) you know that's a retarded claim to make. + +Now feel free to dickride and give me free (you)'s, i'm done with you. +--- 57889999 +>>57889792 +Video starts with +>patrons wanted this +>Lazerpig had some false claims +>he made some hyperbole the audience missed +>he wasn't completely wrong. +--- 57890144 +How many times are you going to shill your video? +--- 57890276 +>>57889884 +Laserpig got so much wrong in his video to the point where he’s either an ignorant retard, pulling supposed info out of his ass or he was intentionally misleading people for the sake of “entertainment and sensationalism”. All his other videos seem very shallow and memey, that don’t provide good info to the viewer. His videos make the pro-Ukrainian argument look gay +--- 57890342 +>>57889402 (OP) +I really can't stand watching Laserpig videos, it feels like I'm listening to a 20 year old constantly making jokes about being le drunk and gay all the time. Is he former military or something? Or just an armchair "analysis" +--- 57890354 +>>57890342 +>>57890276 +Doesn't he always make it clear his videos are shitposting and he's fallible or am I missing something here +--- 57890395 +>>57890354 +The video is 1h long, you don't do a video with an 1h duration "for the meme". +The problem with that video and LazerPig in general is that he let his bias into his reviews and make it look as a fact. + +Right after his video came out there was a bunch of underage kids here who has no idea how tanks or engineering works spouting the same shit he said on the video without ever checking if it was true or not. +The fact that he had to lie to make a Russian tank look like shit it's just pathetic really, why lie? There's plenty of evidence around that the Russian tanks are indeed inferior to Western tanks without making mirabolant claims about on "how you can have access to a better thermal sights on the civilian market than a military grade sight Russia uses". +--- 57890439 +>>57890395 +>how you can have access to a better thermal sights on the civilian market than a military grade sight Russia uses +This isn't true, right? +--- 57890458 +>>57890439 +Nope, military grade thermals can detect soft targets(humans) up to 5km away. +Chinese DJI drones, which are the most popular civlian models can't barely detect a human 500 meters away from it. + +t. drone owner +--- 57890467 +>>57889402 (OP) +Redeffect makes a video responding to the lazerpig video about the t14, vatnik fags quickly star using the video as evidence of lazerpig being a Hato shill and a liar therefore, everything he ever said is false, even though redeffect has made many videos about how bad Russian tanks are (videos were these same vatniks are calling him a Hato shill as well). As a response Lazerpig fags run damage control for his reddit lord and call out redeffect as just another retarded vatnik who suck off lord monke Putin because redeffect is a serb who, believe or not, likes Serbian military vehicles. + +TLD'R, BOTH SIDES ARE FAGS +--- 57890484 +>>57890354 +>Doesn't he always make it clear his videos are shitposting +No, he means 100% of what he says, is just a shitty defense people hide behind when people find out that the info is untrue +--- 57890504 +mmmmmm called-out piggies))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) +--- 57890551 +>>57890458 +to be fair, thermals are actually pretty available to consumers, even at the bleeding edge. I can only guess the miliraty would prefer a more well tested/more durable/cheaper unit thats a generation old. +It costs a small fortune, but you can get 1024x768 thermals as a civilian, probably better than whatever's in the abrams too +--- 57890594 +>>57890551 +Yea some have pretty good quality nowadays, but for a civilian market thermal, all you need is a good resolution. +For a military grande thermal there's a lot more going on, like it has to detect an enemy soldier kilometers away with crystal clear quality and not a smudge on the screen, which for cameras is pretty hard to do. They also have to autolock a moving target, work in pair with a rangefinder and metereological sensors for a pinpoint precise shot, etc etc etc... + +Fucking wish civilian market thermals could do that. +--- 57890615 +>>57890144 +I'm pretty sure it's just slavaboos creaming themselves now that lazerpig got proper criticism that isn't tied to just plebbit +--- 57891518 +>>57889738 +Why doesn't he call himself coachredpill anymore? +--- 57891540 +>>57889402 (OP) +He is working on a response it seems +https://www.youtube.com/@LazerPig/community diff --git a/k/57889457.txt b/k/57889457.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d72e415b416d7ce2f468fece62279079f5ad2309 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889457.txt @@ -0,0 +1,44 @@ +----- +--- 57889457 +Would you take a Phantom war shield into battle like Papuan highland tribesmen? +It said that those who do will harness the power of The Ghost Who Walks +--- 57889634 +>>57889457 (OP) +What the fuck is this +--- 57889660 +>>57889634 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield +--- 57889921 +>>57889457 (OP) +>while vatniks complaining us larping to Avengers characters. +>Papuan tribesman larping to golden age comic characters +--- 57889971 +>>57889921 +they didn't larp +they actually went into battle with these things +--- 57890043 +>>57889971 +--- 57890065 +I think I prefer the ones that adapt The Phantom into their art style rather than trying to imitate a comic book illustration +--- 57890067 +>>57889457 (OP) +OK so this is probably the single most based thing I've ever seen come out of that part of the world +I now unironically support their movement because people with good taste deserve the freedom to enjoy it +--- 57890221 +Absolutely based. +--- 57890282 +>>57889493 +Hey hey people, Seth here… +--- 57890423 +>>57889457 (OP) +> During World War II, soldiers received care packages containing comics. The soldiers stationed in Papua New Guinea shared these comics, and the Phantom became extremely popular among the tribes. The Papuan people who could read English would read the stories and share the images with others (by the 1970s they were available in Pidgin, Tok Pisin). The character's image is often painted on ceremonial shields or alongside other tribal art.[64] This is sometimes referred to as "tribal pop art +Neat. +--- 57890451 +>>57890423 +This is the kind of cultural cross-pollination I can get behind. +--- 57890690 +>>57890423 +>>57890451 +The Phantom was only a newspaper strip in the 1940s, and the Australian publisher Frew only began printing in 1948. +My understanding is it was in the 1970s that The Phantom took of in Papua with newspapers including it and local language publications being produced to help with adult literacy programs. +Their interest in The Phantom is supposed stem from him living with jungle people and often helping them against colonial forces, corporate exploitation, poachers, pirates, etc diff --git a/k/57889541.txt b/k/57889541.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..aceab56eccc15ca5fe5bd475075dcc91dc2cdd83 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889541.txt @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +----- +--- 57889541 +It seems the most common in the Ruger Vaquero. Also post weapons from the American Indian Wars +--- 57889646 +>>57889541 (OP) +I like Cimarron and Taylors myself. +--- 57889726 +>>57889541 (OP) +>Also post weapons from the American Indian Wars +would custer have survived if he had pic related? +--- 57889783 +>>57889541 (OP) +Best would be Standard MFG and USFA, but they retail at the same price as real colts. + +The Ruger's are not clones, they are improvements, and are the best all round single action revolvers available because of that. Rugers will function forever. A friend and mentor of mine has 100,000 rounds through his pair of vaquero's. no parts have needed replacement yet. + +The uberti's and Pietta's are ok. they have some things they do when the make them that i think are unwise but don't do much harm. largest of these is that on Uberti SAA's there is a step at the back of the cylinder window that can catch a rim of a cartridge and hinder rotation of the cylinder, but only if you point the gun up far enough when cocking the hammer. the Italian springs go bad fairly fast but are easy to replace (the springs on a ruger will last forever). the italian guns sometime have zeroing problems left or right which is hard to fix on a SAA. +>>57889726 +no. custer was a retard hoping for a spectacular victory so he could run for president. +--- 57889798 +I don't know shit about SAAs but why the fuck is a uberti the same price or higher than a Colt? +--- 57889802 +>>57889783 +>Custer was a retard +I'll not have the name of the man who beat back JEB Stuart besmirched. He was a brave and competent cavalry officer and acted on his previous experiences that day in 1876. +--- 57889902 +>>57889798 +either that Uberti is wayyyy overpriced or that colt is reallyyyy cheap. uberti's go for 5-700. colts go for 2-10,000. +--- 57890231 +>>57889541 (OP) +I broke the cylinder stop on my Uberti spinning the cylinder and stopping it by fully cocking the hammer. + +>Took it all apart +>replaced the broken piece +>put it back together +>had some extra parts +>brought to a gunsmith +>guy says besides the part I broke it was in perfect condition and that his stock colt parts dropped right in +>2500 rounds through it + +Would recommend +--- 57890261 +>>57889541 (OP) +https://www.gunbroker.com/item/978620440 + +I would get this. +--- 57890290 +>>57889541 (OP) +Some anon help me find one in .45 +Or if one exists a vaquero in .357 with a 71/2 barrel please please +--- 57890475 +>>57890261 +I don't know if I should get this or a ruger vaquero. +--- 57890497 +>>57890290 +>.357 with a 71/2 barrel +You'll be looking a long time for that one. They stopped making them in the 90s or early 2000s iirc. +--- 57890568 +>>57890475 +My Uberti is chambered in .44 mag. +Uberti good. +--- 57890572 +>>57889726 +Wasn't Custer's forces completely surrounded? +--- 57890591 +>>57890572 +Yeah, he was a retard. +--- 57890832 +>>57889541 (OP) +What is the historically accurate barrel length for an original 1873? I’ve seen different variations +--- 57890836 +>>57890832 +Army model is the 7 inch version. +--- 57890854 +>>57890497 + But they do exist. +Would it just be easier to contact ruger and ask for a longer barrel? +I'll bump this thread with peace makers +--- 57891021 +>>57889802 +Custer was a pussy +--- 57891024 +>>57891021 +I don't know, fighting an impossible to win fight in a last stand with twin pistols may be retarded, but I wouldn't call it cowardly. +--- 57891051 +>>57890832 +Gunfighter/Civilian model was 4.75" +Artillery Model was 5.5" +Calvary Model was 7.5" +--- 57891173 +>>57890854 +I doubt they'd make one for you. I've seen them come up at gunshows every so often, but they seem to be quite rare. +>>57891021 +Yeah, yeah you watched a movie. Bravo. diff --git a/k/57889644.txt b/k/57889644.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..85c9f18cdc79a6d220cfb2b2fda362323fdc5b76 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889644.txt @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@ +----- +--- 57889644 +Were the goals of the Strategic Defense Initiative actually realistic or even attainable? Considering that the current Russian Federation has about 1/5 as many nuclear weapons as the USSR did in 1980, it seems like the program wouldn't have to be quite as large in order to be effective. +--- 57889674 +>>57889644 (OP) +Its only ever been able to hypothetically work against short or medium range missiles +Its capabilities against ICBMs and MIRVs is unknown but believed to be dismal +If they actually were able to improve its effectiveness, they haven't told anyone and no one has leaked it + +It would be somewhat effective at stopping a rogue nation from nuking their neighbor, but ineffective at stopping counter-force strikes against mainland USA +--- 57889703 +>>57889644 (OP) +Considering Starlink is basically Brilliant Pebbles without the interceptor part, maybe. It would have required a fucking lot of tonnage to orbit though, more than the US had available at the time. If a SpaceX-esque company had been given enough funding it may have been possible to get a kinda-almost-working reusable rocket by the mid 90s with a working Brilliant Pebbles system coming online in the mid to late 2000s. + +Brilliant Pebbles also has the advantage of working against FOBS systems just the same (so if Russia launched a missile south instead of north and attacked the US from the south pole) as the system by nature has thousands of interceptors not-over-Russia for every few hundred over Russia. + +ERIS and the other ground interceptors I can't speak on but based on their concepts going on to work successfully as THAAD, GBI and SM-3, I dunno maybe they had a shot. + +Can't speak on the sensor parts. Honestly the best thing the US could have done to defeat a possible FOBS launch is set up space tracking radars in Australia, Japan, Saudi Arabia and South America. +--- 57890027 +>>57889703 +Pebbles seemed like the most plausible way to pull it off, lasers aren't economical, railguns aren't either and Excalibur was some schizoid fuck-fuck shit. +Also, isn't SM-3 Block IIA kind of able to hit IR/ICBMs in LEO? +--- 57890099 +>>57889644 (OP) +>Were the goals of the Strategic Defense Initiative actually realistic or even attainable? +Brilliant Pebbles was widely considered to have been reasonable and viable if your only concern is shooting down ICBMs. The problem is that it was twenty times more expensive to shoot down an ICBM with BP than it was to build another ICBM. +--- 57890116 +>>57890099 +Isn't the cost issue mainly averted with BP with how each satellite is cheaper than an ICBM? +--- 57890170 +>>57890116 +Sure, that's a benefit. But consider the number of pebbles you need in orbit to make sure enough are over Russia to prevent a launch at any given point in time. Now, if only sensors and computing had become much lighter, much more reliable, much more accurate, and we had a cheap heavy lift vehicle coming online... +--- 57890179 +>>57890170 +>and we had a cheap heavy lift vehicle coming online... +No way anon, you'd need a veritable starship to do so. There's simply no way such a system could be in testing right now. Simply impossible. I stake my emerald mines on it. +--- 57890447 +>>57890179 +kek +--- 57890464 +>>57890447 +Really freezes your propellant valves, doesn't it? +--- 57890476 +Just out of curiosity, did SDI ever acknowledge submarine based missiles? What was the plan there? +--- 57890486 +>>57890476 +I'm pretty sure it would work to a degree on SLBMs, may depend how far they're fired from target though. +--- 57890525 +>>57889644 (OP) +Follow-up question: +What would the ideal anti nuclear (not just ICBM) defense look like against an opponent such as Russia? I was thinking +>brilliant pebbles type system to make up most of the defense, possibly backed up by some sort of laser satellite network if possible +>ground and possibly sea based interceptors in order to serve as a backup against whatever slips through the pebbles +>extensive air-sea-land warning network distributed worldwide combined with satellites +>large number of interceptors to prevent bombers from flying over the north pole and kill their cruise missiles in flight +>point defense systems like MIM-104 PAC-3MSE to deal with cruise missiles and aircraft dropping gravity bombs that slip through interceptors +--- 57890599 +>>57890525 +Against Russia? Give up and go home. They have too many fucking warheads, some will get through. Though you can severely reduce the damage, but like when you need a 100% success rate against 1000ish warheads, sorry no can do. Its possible, but not odds I'd wanna take. + +Against like China? +Now thats a arsenal you could actually suppress with defenses. Even in the worst case of them launching the first strike its dooable, if you take a more optimistic scenario where theres been a gradual escalation you can presume, that you'll whittle down their numbers a bit before they launch a counter value strike. diff --git a/k/57889717.txt b/k/57889717.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d95528c69fe13c9a8e5cda0f22c5fa4032cb59e9 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889717.txt @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +----- +--- 57889717 +What is the best APC to hide under? +--- 57889722 +>>57889717 (OP) +Spartan +--- 57889727 +ya mudda +--- 57889748 +>>57889717 (OP) +You just know they're gonna drop a drone nade at the back and call it a day lmao +--- 57891562 +>>57889722 +What about IFV? +--- 57891684 +>>57889717 (OP) +t-15 +The chasis was made with extreme care for the crew survivability, because enemy cant hit you if you will never be even close to the frontline. +--- 57891696 +>>57889748 +Yeah, op made me think of pic related. Drones are scary. diff --git a/k/57889771.txt b/k/57889771.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..00dc5674aa28c206066778c7c389d8bb4c8fad57 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889771.txt @@ -0,0 +1,51 @@ +----- +--- 57889771 +With constant advancements and better understanding of ballistics, we have a wide variety of rounds and calibers for just about every threat from 9mm jacketed hollow points for enraged gorillas to 5.56 tungsten core armor-piercing for wild hog. + +However, I see a lack of supply in the realm of self-defense against enemies of the supernatural variety. + +Where and/or how would one acquire silver bullets for those nefarious things that go bump in the night? +--- 57889784 +Silver is cheap but still retarded to shoot 120-158gr into the dirt where it will likely never be recovered. Literally pissing money away +--- 57889832 +>>57889771 (OP) +>Where and/or how would one acquire silver bullets for those nefarious things that go bump in the night? +You'd cast it yourself and make them. Retarded but it's your money and they'll work just fine. +--- 57889849 +>>57889771 (OP) +If you're fighting werewolves or whatever, wouldn't you want something bigger than .32 ACP? +--- 57889851 +electroplating +--- 57889853 +>that silver could have fed my entire tribe for a year +--- 57890215 +Several reasons why it's hard to find: +>silver probably does some bullshit when being pushed through rifling like aluminum +>silver is cheap for a precious metal but the metal by weight is still like 5x the price of gucci bullets +>very limited market of people that actually want silver bullets are likely content to DIY or commission one-offs +--- 57890273 +>>57889771 (OP) +>5.56 tungsten core armor-piercing for wild hog. +only if you are assassinating world leaders. other wise shoot more. the idea of paying to arm grunts with uber ammo is a waste even for America levels of spending waste. +>Where and/or how would one acquire silver bullets for those nefarious things that go bump in the night? +two ways you pour silver that you melt from silver shot, its like almost melt cost so 25 bucks an oz plus 3 or 4 dollars mark up...so not to bad. +the other is order silver bullets....someone will rape price you on this no worries +--- 57890284 +>>57890215 +Silver is fine as a bullet material. It's purely down to price and stupidity. As you say it's cheap for a metal in that grouping, but it's still like $275/lb vs $4/lb for copper, $1.4/lb for zinc, or $0.50/lb for lead. + +Sure that's not impossible, compared to gold at $25000/lb or whatever it is now someone certainly could do that. A pound is 7000 grains, so for a 140gr round say in terms of raw material the silver would cost 550cpr, which is retarded pricey relatively speaking but anyone who shoots at all could afford a box in principle. It's just that it's completely fucking pointless. +--- 57890791 +>>57890284 +>Silver is fine as a bullet material +It's not, compared to just casting lead, casting silver is a hassle. + +https://www.patriciabriggs.com/articles/silver/silverbullets.shtml +--- 57890813 +Wouldn't silver be far too light to be an effective bullet? +--- 57891057 +>>57890791 +It's a fine material as-in it'll perform fine if you actually had a bullet in it. That yeah it's more work to cast is almost minor compared to it costing literally hundreds of times more money for zero performance gain. As I said it's a retarded material to actually use, but not because of its material properties per se. If silver happened to be as abundant on Earth as lead and cost the same, we'd use it all over the place, and there'd probably be no copper bullets. + +>>57890813 +lol what? Lead has a density of 11.34g/cm3, bismuth is 9.78, copper is 8.96, stainless steel around 8, zinc only 7.14. Silver is 10.49, closer to lead than any other common bullet material. Where'd you get the idea silver was lightweight? diff --git a/k/57889883.txt b/k/57889883.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0bd381716f41195f48c52f15a8ddf33216012bc4 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889883.txt @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +----- +--- 57889883 +I have put 1000+ rounds through my AR and have decided to clean it after it REFUSED to fire anymore (the firing pin is not damaged). I have used a washcloth with solvent in the upper receiver (where the BCG sits), the entirety of the lower receiver, and of course I've broken down the BCG and cleaned that too (this had the most carbon build up by far). I have a few questions though regarding the thick, difficult to remove carbon build up on the bolt itself above the gas rings, is this necessary to completely scrape off? I tried using a pencil to avoid damaging the steel, but this did not work very well. I was also curious if it is necessary to use a star chamber cleaning device instead of Q-Tips (I found it difficult to clean that little area between the star and the beginning of the barrel). I have an M16 cleaning kit from the war in Afghanistan, but I cannot get a cleaning patch down the barrel with the rod, the barrel is too tight. Any products sent will help as well as cleaning advice, thank you! (file is some stock image) +--- 57889965 +meds +--- 57890230 +>>57889883 (OP) +Don't use scraping tools, it will fuck up your bolt. Leave any carbon, it won't negatively affect anything. Star chamber brushes and shit are unnecessary. A quick boresnake down the barrel a few times and you're good. No need to overthink this shit. +--- 57890277 +>>57889883 (OP) +As stated don't scrape, wipe with a solvent repeatedly to get most of it off. No need to clean the barrel, the bullets scrape it clean every shot you take. Just do the best you can to get the majority of sot and carbon, it doesn't have to be perfect. Lube is more important. +--- 57890305 +how many rounds can an AR15 take before it gunks up and stops working/or causes major malfunctions? +>asking for a friend +--- 57890345 +>>57889883 (OP) +>1k rounds and AR can't fire anymore +What a POS gun. lmao. +>cleaning patch +Get a boresnake and never rod again, except for shoving it up your ass. +You AR should run past 1K arounds even with shitty dirty Russian steel case when you lube it up. AR needs to be wet +--- 57890356 +>>57890305 +Depends on the quality of parts. +https://bravocompanyusa.com/content/Filthy%2014%20bravo_swat_10.pdf +--- 57890370 +>>57890305 +well, here's an SR-15 that's still working. 10k rounds no cleaning. +--- 57890384 +>>57889883 (OP) +scraping with a brass tool is fine. +>is this necessary to completely scrape off? +No. +>I was also curious if it is necessary to use a star chamber cleaning device instead of Q-Tips +Those suck, stick with the qtips +>I have an M16 cleaning kit from the war in Afghanistan +Cleaning barrels is generally entirely unnecessary. You're shooting jacketed ammo that isn't leaving lead deposits. The piece of copper zipping down the barrel at several thousand feet per second is doing the cleaning for you. +--- 57890394 +>>57890305 +It depends on quality and the luck of the rifle you get. There is a YouTube video where a m&p sport fired a good few hundred rounds continuously with a full auto lower +--- 57890536 +>>57890345 +i think the problem does not necessarily sit with the gun, I was letting other people fire it and I need new trigger pins as these ones that came with it are bare minimum, the bolt release pin has also disappeared lol. I am assuming the problem is not with the cleaning but with the trigger not sitting snugly anymore. I also meant to state BORE SNAKE and not ROD. +--- 57890542 +>>57889883 (OP) +soak everything in diesel and relube from scratch +--- 57890652 +>>57890536 +Did you install the trigger properly? Look up how you can put the spring in wrong and get light strikes. +>bolt release pin is gone +>gun not a POS +--- 57890692 +>>57890652 +trigger is a drop in so yes, not sure why the bolt release pin came loose haha, should've used some lock tight on it when building. the trigger pins are the average millspec ones, I am changing them out for some better ones. +--- 57890711 +>>57890692 +Ffs... +https://youtu.be/ZeguNwyf5kA [Embed] +--- 57890716 +>>57890692 +>bolt release pin came loose +It's a fucking roll pin or screw? Roll pin shouldn't come loose. Don't get cassette triggers, not reliable lol. +--- 57890725 +>>57890692 +--- 57890737 +Just soak that bitch in lacquer thinner for a couple days, she'll be 'right. diff --git a/k/57889907.txt b/k/57889907.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1cc0ea518dc953c744c702960333d5fa699d5676 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57889907.txt @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@ +----- +--- 57889907 +What is the tactical advantage of wearing 14 pouches on the back of your plate carrier? +--- 57889937 +>>57889907 (OP) +4 snacks +--- 57889938 +>>57889907 (OP) +Cargo cult. Pretty sure he is wearing it for the video without understanding on why its retarded. I remember one time that iraqis were putting shit in their pockets because of how they saw Americans with full pockets. +--- 57890143 +>>57889907 (OP) +Goodie bags, for team spirit. +--- 57890161 +>/k/opers already doing damage control by deflecting to fucking pouches +Kek. Lmao even. +--- 57890177 +>>57889907 (OP) +This thread is just western chauvinism. Of course you can't appreciate the strategic and tactical advantage of an individual solider going into battle with everything he needs instead of relying on Shaniqua in logistics to bring him his supplies. +--- 57890195 +>>57890161 +Wat happened to our based tranny? Did he finally realize it's cooler to be a guy instead of pretending to be a girl? +--- 57890269 +>>57889907 (OP) +Ez resupply for ur battle buddy +--- 57890324 +>>57890195 +Probably. He probably only transitioned because he was getting no puss anyway. +Happens more often than you think. +--- 57890570 +>>57890161 +the Test limiters are off, now the eye brow has truly been raised +--- 57890624 +>>57889907 (OP) +To make picking up ammo from your corpse easier +--- 57890744 +>>57890177 +How does he wear his backpack? +--- 57890745 +>>57889907 (OP) +Your fellow comrades have quick access to ammo and grenades if a firefight suddenly breaks out while they are in the middle of your daily rape session +--- 57890763 +>>57889907 (OP) +No body armor plates? Just fill pouches with scrap metal and rock and bing bang bing flak jacket +--- 57890776 +>>57890744 +>Implying that isn’t his substitute backpack +--- 57891326 +>>57889907 (OP) +Your buddyes can have your tactical snacks as they rail your boipuccy while pulling on the magpouches for better grip and more ramming force +>Haha that would be gay wouln't it Haha +--- 57891353 +>>57891326 +what the fuck are you on about +--- 57891377 +>>57890744 +>implying he can even acquire a backpack +Anon, this is the Russian military we’re talking about here. diff --git a/k/57890317.txt b/k/57890317.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..125d3243a4ae7a5a02da8805c85db4ac26ace527 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890317.txt @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@ +----- +--- 57890317 +>magically and drastically improves aesthetics +When will lelkek stop using that hideous waffle pattern? +--- 57890415 +>>57890317 (OP) +I want an M43 like you wouldn't believe, but I'm sure someone counted up all the beans and figured that the risk in bringing it to market wasn't worth it. +--- 57890427 +the more pressing question is "when will they stop making their guns out of two clamshell molds screwed together like a fucking toy?" +--- 57890448 +>>57890317 (OP) +what the fuck is up with keltec and screws? +--- 57890495 +>>57890317 (OP) +i like it diff --git a/k/57890407.txt b/k/57890407.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..032b2fbf9f88df078f4a247e0bf372a287ebda94 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890407.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 57890407 +What if all troops were armed with rocket launchers, like SMAW? +--- 57890802 +based Metal Slug enjoyer +--- 57890844 +Final attack, mission start. diff --git a/k/57890422.txt b/k/57890422.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5b7ece5afc0c136d0b4c9f6ec3db719f2c79f0f4 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890422.txt @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +----- +--- 57890422 +You carry a reload, right, /k/? +--- 57890431 +>>57890422 (OP) +If 30 nigs are beating you at once you’re not going to be able to draw in the first place +--- 57890437 +>>57890431 +Plenty of time to draw before they close the distance. +--- 57890456 +>>57890422 (OP) +i personally blame the advertising industry for targeting these kids with hustle/thugging media shit. they wouldn't behave this way if they weren't brainwashed from birth with gangbanger garbage. +--- 57890481 +>>57890422 (OP) +You’re responsible for the path of each bullet you fire. That means if you hit a target and bears off and hits someone else in the crowd, they can add that charge against you. Whoever you flag with the weapon they can add charges too. Unless you’re Rittenhouse, situations like this are hard to come out on top of. I it’s almost like whoever has the largest most violent Mob wins. I am so done with this fucking clown world it’s unreal +--- 57890482 +>>57890422 (OP) +>letting yourself get surrounded by a pack of apes +???? +--- 57890494 +>>57890481 +Rittenhouse's recklessness charges were all dropped as they were in the course of reasonable self defense. You're going to get out of this just fine criminally wise. I presume the reason this never happens to someone CCWing is they back off when they draw. +--- 57890506 +>>57890482 +i believe it was from a couple of days ago. chicago got swarmed by superpredators. +https://il.ax/watch?v=xGF5UpHtDVM +--- 57890508 +>>57890494 +>Rittenhouse's recklessness charges were all dropped +No they weren't, the jury found him not guilty. Every single charge the prosecutors hit him with went to trial, and only the weapon possession and curfew charges were dismissed by the judge. +--- 57890527 +I wonder why niggers deciding to carry Glocks with 33rd mags/drums and switches is a thing? +--- 57890533 +White liberals voted for this, so they better enjoy it. Bet she was wishing for a scary military assault rifle. +--- 57890545 +>>57890508 +My fault, used the wrong terms. He was found not guilty on the recklessness charges because of his reasonable use of force. Shooting into this crowd would be reasonable use of force, with plenty of CCTV and probably cell video evidence backing you up. +--- 57890561 +>>57890422 (OP) +>have bomb vest strapped to chest +>13 to 50 nogs attack me +>implement TND and destroy entire crowd +>wake up in Jannah +Problem? +--- 57890577 +>anti anti social club + +This is the type of clothes bohos wear, funniest thing is those are probably bourgeoisie members but they want to be "from the streets" so bad, "i came from nothin' no cap" +--- 57890610 +>>57890422 (OP) +>tfw the libs claim there is no need for 100 round magazines +--- 57890634 +>>57890422 (OP) +QRD? +--- 57890641 +>>57890634 + +N +--- 57890650 +>>57890422 (OP) +Her fault for being around niggers in the first place. +--- 57890785 +>>57890431 +>>57890482 +>>57890527 +>>57890641 +>>57890650 +what's with the thinly veiled racism bros?? we're better than this.. +--- 57890804 +>>57890785 +Fuck off nigger +--- 57890811 +>>57890785 +Yes, we are. +We are white. +--- 57890814 +>>57890641 +I think we need a longer rundown than that +--- 57890815 +>>57890634 +Warm weather in Chicago lead to a "wilding" of hundreds of teens in a somewhat upscale area a few days ago. +--- 57890829 +>>57890785 +>sees an innocent woman get beaten into the dirt by a mob for no reason +>BUT WHAT ABOUT THE RACISM +Maybe you ought to teach your democratic pets the value of human life and how to behave in a civil society and people won’t be racist towards them. +--- 57890842 +>>57890456 +Reminds me of the boondocks episode were BET stated goals is to destroy black people +--- 57890845 +>>57890634 +--- 57890847 +>>57890785 +Cant believe people still get worked by bait like this. +--- 57890858 +>>57890842 +https://youtu.be/QHCSL-AKd3w [Embed] +--- 57890862 +>>57890847 +--- 57890919 +>>57890785 +>we're better than this.. +not your personal army +you go live next to hoards of violent apes +--- 57890998 +>>57890561 +Bismillah +--- 57891035 +>>57890456 +>sees 30 nigs beat up a white woman +>think of the poor blacks :( +Americans are a lost cause. +--- 57891109 +Anyone got footage of people surviving this sort of situation? Esp firearms related. +--- 57891139 +>>57890422 (OP) +>You carry a reload, right, /k/? +Nope. A reload wouldn't save you, don't live near or associate with niggers retard. +>shoot +8 niggers +>become a nationwide pariah +>end up going to prison for life as the media tears you down and prints numerous racist posts you've made online +(^: diff --git a/k/57890424.txt b/k/57890424.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7d8a50e6b1e915e785cb90708d2a5cae8c31154d --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890424.txt @@ -0,0 +1,241 @@ +----- +--- 57890424 +Tactical advantage of grabbing a bunch of soldiers from random units, confiscating all their documents and dumping them in Ukraine with no officers, no orders and no idea where they are and not paying them? + +https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1647892270035750913 +--- 57890452 +>>57890424 (OP) +It's cool, we knew they would never learn. As the Finnish say, they rarely learn more than the basic level of competence even after years of war. Competent bureaucracy has always been a mystery to Russia. +--- 57890614 +>>57890424 (OP) +Is it not possible for them to surrender en masse to the ukrainians? +--- 57890621 +>>57890424 (OP) +>no orders +What do you mean? They were sold to Fagner and will be shortly sent to trench. +--- 57890661 +>>57890424 (OP) +Comarade Any precise location data you can share? of your officers too if possible? + +I can with rapid (explosive) evacuation +--- 57890672 +>>57890614 +Russia made surrender illegal. +--- 57890677 +YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE +YOU ARE IN UKRAINE, BABY +YOU ARE GONNA DIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE +--- 57890782 +>>57890424 (OP) +This amazes me in these "addresses" that Russki soldats post on the internet: +>boohoo we have no commander/commander is bad/we suffer/we can't fight well/whatevs +>please fix it, higher commander/tzar! +It's ironic to me that they appeal to the higher-ups to fix the fuck-ups of higher-ups. For a supposedly cynical, based and redpilled people, they sure seem like obedient cattle. +--- 57890784 +>>57890672 + +Piss on Ryoossia +--- 57890806 +>we have no orders +>just give us orders and everything is fine +>we didn't want to fight in the war but we will do absolutely nothing against it +>just gib weapons and orders +--- 57890822 +>>57890782 +In the minds of Russian cattle, the tsar can do no wrong and if he only knew how badly they were being mistreated by the boyars, he would surely fix everything. +--- 57890831 +>>57890424 (OP) + +This isn't even the first time this has happened. The last batch that complained ended up with every single one of them dying however so Putin said it's not his problem. It's grim. +--- 57890857 +>>57890782 +>post on the internet: +The best ones are not even public. +Here is typical vatnik call from trench to his shithole 5000km away +>Have you been in military office already? +>I am going there on tuesday +>Did you send anything to prosecutor? +>Their website do not work for some reasons, we will be trying again later. +>Because we are proably encircled, blyad. +>WTF +>Yes, we are 35 people left from company alive. It is only possible to return as 200 or 300. +>Too bad, take care! +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3As7g1IH-A [Embed] +And this is just one random example. + +80% of russians are infantile sub 89IQ retard, who are taking it as some joke and unironically write letters to president about bad boyars, expecting him to fix their shit. +They will obidiently wait for months until death. +--- 57890888 +I have so much contempt for this souless cattle you wouldn't believe. +--- 57890896 +>>57890782 +Well the higher ups do fix it by letting all the whiners run out of ammo and fucking die. Ez fix +--- 57890911 +>>57890888 +Look on the bright side anon, at some point Russia is going to run out of poor illiterate Soviet-displaced Kazakhs and is going to have to begin picking university students in Moscow. That's when the shit will hit the fan and every other country on earth gets to shine a light into the rotten decayed corpse of the USSR. + +Putin is going to hang. I'm not saying that to be some epic redditor. I'm saying that seriously. He's not going to die a natural death. +--- 57890943 +>>57890911 +>Putin is going to hang. I'm not saying that to be some epic redditor. I'm saying that seriously. He's not going to die a natural death. +I think he will die peacefully in bed, after losing the war yet comforably suppressing all domestic opposition, as hundreds of dictators did before him. +--- 57890951 +>>57890943 +Sure, as long as corrupt western countries pay for gas, oil and other stuff. Millions of HOMO only exist, because they are paid twice average salary for beaing babushkas once a month, and those money come from west. +--- 57890961 +>>57890672 +And who is going to enforce that law? The other mass of disorganized randos from the professional army? +--- 57890968 +>>57890782 +I agree, it's so baby-ish + +>daaad, moom said I couldn't goooo +--- 57890991 +>>57890857 +they even have that biannual marathon tv show ritual where people can call mr president and he will then give orders to ministers and federal subject governors to fix things +--- 57890992 +>>57890782 +It's always a fake when you see them wearing masks. +--- 57890994 +>>57890782 +It's part of the whole song and dance they've been doing since time immemorial. Before the war Putin would still have these live Q&A sessions with the public where "random members of the public" would phone in, complain about some specific local problem they're having, and the magnanimous tzar would promise to personally look into it and sort it out. The ritual of petitioning the tzar for his blessing and to solve your problem is still highly ingrained in that society, it's how they still have the illusion of not being serfs owned by masters. +--- 57891005 +>>57890911 +You are optimistic, even if he's deposed he's gonna end up somewhere like Dubai where he lives out the rest of his life richer than every one of us +--- 57891030 +I'm a right wing racist incel and wanted to support Russia in this war. But the truth is that Putin is a dumb fuck who has no values whatsoever and Russia is a degenerate cesspool of human waste. Russia could have won the war in a single day but they didn't because every single one of them is weak, cowardly and retarded. +--- 57891050 +>>57890992 +So in the instances where they’d be most incentivized to wear a mask fearing reprisals from their government are the instances where it’s fake +--- 57891061 +>>57891050 +He's implying that those are Ukrainian HATO psyop glowniggers from CIA superbunkers and not Russhits +--- 57891065 +>>57890424 (OP) +>and not paying them? +why ask the question if the answer is already IN THE QUESTION +--- 57891066 +>>57890961 +400K Rosgvardia and 900K police force. +--- 57891069 +>>57891030 +Why is this the case? One would think that rightwing incels would want to see Russia destroyed due to it being the source of communism and radical leftism. +--- 57891071 +>>57890961 +something like 5-10 percent of the male Russian population is some form of state enforcement agent, be it police, rosgvardia, army or some other force. Also the state in general is the main employer in most industries +--- 57891077 +>>57890782 +>It's ironic to me that they appeal to the higher-ups to fix the fuck-ups of higher-up +sometimes it's an unironic appeal to the tzar, sometimes it's meant for the general population, but the people who are making it know that the only safe form is to make it look like you are appealing to the good tzar +--- 57891080 +>>57891005 +>Dubai +It'll probably be France, maybe they'll even let him have Bokassas house +--- 57891096 +>>57890672 +But they'll be in Ukraine so surrender is now legal +--- 57891133 +>>57891069 +>One would think that rightwing incels would want to see Russia destroyed due to it being the source of communism and radical leftism. +That's retarded, false and irrelevant. The forces that strengthen our malaise come from our own ruling classes and ideology. Russia did support Western leftism but their efforts were mostly vanity and not world changing. Russians influencing the US are just boogiemen. Boogiemen for the right in the 50s-80s and boogiemen for liberalism now. + +You would have to be extremely ignorant and misguided to think Russia was the source of radical leftism/liberalism. +--- 57891135 +>>57890424 (OP) +>confiscating all their documents +So they’re operating on the brothel system. Bold choice. +--- 57891158 +>>57891133 +So you wanted Russia to win in Ukraine so that a malevolent force (probably jews and/or globalists including WEF et al.) in the degenerate West would end up with an egg on its face? So that you could accomplish what exactly, gloat about it on Twitter? +--- 57891164 +>>57890424 (OP) + +daily hohol fake +--- 57891211 +>>57891133 +>Colossal Faggot: The Post. +--- 57891216 +>>57891211 +>being this triggered by 20th century history 101 +--- 57891225 +At this point I've accepted that Russia is just liquidating the male population for reasons until they're satisfied. What those reasons are I have no idea but I suppose tax payers aren't worth keeping around +--- 57891226 +>>57891216 +>Sucking Monke's cock because trannies. +--- 57891230 +>>57891158 +Russia is a degenerate Satanic entity. I don't know where you got the idea I wanted them to win. +--- 57891235 +>>57891226 +Wtf is a monke? an african? +--- 57891245 +>>57891225 +>taxpayers +>russia +Male population is burden for Gazprom and Rosneft. At least 70% of females vote for putin, what do oligarchs need males for? +--- 57891260 +>>57891245 +Why would it matter when elections there are rigged and fake anyway? +--- 57891270 +>>57891230 +You or your rightwing-incel compatriot said so. +--- 57891274 +>>57891260 +You need some minimal base to create image for west. Otherwise it would look like some african dictatorship and no Orban or Berlusconi would convince useful idiots to invest their money. +--- 57891281 +>>57891245 +>kill off a shitton of men +>now have a surplus of women +>survivors are mostly domestic liberals with above average IQ +>give the women to these high IQ survivors +>fighting age combat men who threaten your regime are neutralized +>positive eugenics have been practiced +I have to hand it to Putin he is genius. +--- 57891300 +>>57891270 +I like the idea of there being a meaningful alternative to our system but Russia is hardly a good example. Putin's sensible opinions on trannies and other matters aside. At best a Russian win would provide a couple laughs for 2 minutes before our system became an even more hellish iteration of what it already is. +--- 57891314 +>>57891300 +What exactly is so wrong in Western system that you would advocate for your nation's rivals or some system-wide change of governance? Is it the fact that niggers and trannies exist, or do you envision some authoritarian strongman who ovens all the jews and billionnaires? +--- 57891323 +>>57891270 +American "right" and left are russians allies. +--- 57891333 +>>57891300 +So why are you fasting here instead of starting a revolution? And yes, because you are the mood broher with Russian cattle, and you hope that good tsar Putler will fix the system in the USA, lol. This makes you even more pathetic than vatniks. +--- 57891356 +>>57890424 (OP) +that's a great position to be in. They can go all George Washington on the Ukies. Just keep advancing and killing anything in front of them. sooner or later the fun ends when they truly start winning battles by themselves, with no credit for the higher ups in moscow! +--- 57891372 +>>57890424 (OP) +Yes, a video message to make sure the FSB can identify each guy present. Russian sources posted MANY video messages by groups of Ukrainians complaining about their situation, and they’d always shout "SLAVA UKRAINI!" so obviously they’re legit. + +No one with even a little common sense — certainly not an adult — could possibly not instantly understand these video messages being ridiculous propaganda productions. Meant for a dumb Eastern European peasant audience. +--- 57891379 +>>57891372 +>>57890992 +>11AM MSK +Cope brigade is rather late today. +--- 57891382 +>>57890424 (OP) +At what point do you just not decide to go full Coriolanus and march towards Russia. +--- 57891385 +>>57891005 +>>57891080 +>Dubai +>France +He'll get arrested in either. Basically the only safe place for him after this is a bunker in the Urals or deep underneath Shanghai behind a battalion of infantry. +--- 57891392 +>>57891382 +5(6) more stages +--- 57891399 +>>57890424 (OP) +>it's unrealistic they said +>the Soviets were professionals they said +>Hollywood propaganda they said +--- 57891410 +>>57891379 +If you’re unironically buying this low-end propaganda and not just trolling then you’re a double-digit IQ cattle. It’s just copying the Russian propaganda of groups of Ukrainians sending video messages to the public complaining about everything. You haven’t seen them? They used to to be released constantly. But Ukrainians decide to copy this propaganda method and /k/ comsumes it whole, fucking unreal. +--- 57891428 +>>57891410 +Truse ze plan, za stalina. diff --git a/k/57890465.txt b/k/57890465.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9ef01161cbf68cb418721cfe43c0234027bfb762 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890465.txt @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +----- +--- 57890465 +I know that in the early 1900s, Germany had a big sword dueling culture among its elite. Did anywhere else in Europe? Did that exist in Britain, France, Spain, Italy, etc? I've never heard of anything like it in the United States. +--- 57890507 +>>57890465 (OP) +You’re probably thinking of mensur fencing (pic related) which wasn’t really dueling. It was conducted between members of German fraternities as a means of showing you weren’t afraid to face physical danger for the sake of your brothers. The distance and attacks were pre choreographed but when you inevitably messed up after a long time of following the same pattern over and over your eventually get cut. However, this wasn’t a bad thing as having a scar from mensur fencing was quite fashionable at the time with many even going as far as to use horse hair inside their wounds to shape the scar to their liking. + +All that said, true honor dueling did persist into the 20th century though at much lesser rates than previous centuries. A significant portion of European nobles died during wwi and with them their aristocratic cultural quirks, including dueling. The most recent recorded duel occurred in France in 1967 +https://youtu.be/e68nuAcSuWQ [Embed] +Many more videos from the time period also exist of epee duels in France. Additionally, Aldo nadi in his book “on fencing” describes one duel he was witness to and one he fought himself +--- 57890515 +>>57890465 (OP) +>I've never heard of anything like it in the United States. +Yeah because we stood there and shot each other like men. Germans just dueled each other so they could get cute little facial scars to show off to their faggy buddies. +--- 57890564 +>>57890465 (OP) +>I've never heard of anything like it in the United States. +Because dueling is retarded and even more so with guns and the US did away with it in the early 1800s after losing tons of good people to it. +--- 57890565 +>>57890515 +> Yeah because we stood there and shot each other like men +In the 1900s? I doubt that. While pistol dueling did take precedence over pistol dueling (in fact I actually don’t know of a recorded incident where a sword duel took place in the US, with the closest thing being Lincoln almost having a saber duel but instead worked it out with his opponent before any fighting took place) this had fallen out of style by the turn of the century. +--- 57890574 +>>57890564 +Dueling across Europe and the US was almost universally illegal during all time periods even when it was at its most fashionable. It was an understood and accepted part of aristocratic culture, but illegal all the same. This is why they always made sure they were somewhere private rather than in the street. +--- 57890579 +>>57890564 +Faggot. If you aren't willing to meet your enemies on the field of honor then what good are you? What good is your word. If it was legal I'd do it all the time. Hell I'd even volunteer to take the place of others as some men did back then. +>oh my science you would die though, bet you didn't think of that! +We can only hope. +--- 57890607 +>>57890579 +Based duelist +--- 57890689 +>>57890465 (OP) +>a big sword dueling culture among its elite +Not among the elite, among the students of old universities. I just don't recall elite doing as many duels as mensur guys did. +> Did anywhere else in Europe? +Spanish hemisphere and Italy had a knife duel culture until Franco's victory and Mussolini's repression of organised crime. +French high society used to duel as well. In 1898 colonel Picquart fought colonel Henry during Dreyfus affair. +Russians were mostly into handgun duels by the early 1900s. +--- 57890728 +>>57890689 +On the flip side though the Fascist takeover of Italy also revived an older school of Italian saber fencing, and by extension, dueling. I talked about the book above, but in “On fencing” Aldo Nadi describes one of these saber duels in which, a fencer of superior skill and experience (he had apparently won 5 duels prior) was defeated by a lesser opponent. The duelist opened with an impressive flourish, to which the opponent responded, in panic, by simply extending his saber forward. The duelist ran himself through on his opponents sword, entering at the mouth and exiting out the back of his skull, killing him instantly. + +I realize I’ve been sperging in this thread but this is something I’m genuinely interested in. +--- 57890751 +>>57890465 (OP) +It's not widely known but Russian Empire de facto legalized duels in 1894 among military officers ranks. That was some desperate attempt to give society boost and weed out corruption (didn't help much). Russian officers committed about 300 duels till 1913 when they were abolished. But they preferred pistols for duels not swords. +--- 57890771 +>>57890751 +> But they preferred pistols for duels not swords. +With few exceptions this was true for most of the west during the time period. The thinking was that with swords a greater fencer and better athlete had an advantage, whereas with pistols you more or less had to fight on equal footing. Conversely, this was the exact reason why Lincoln in his “almost” duel opted to face his challenger with a saber. He knew his height gave him a significant advantage. +--- 57890772 +>>57890728 +>The duelist opened with an impressive flourish, to which the opponent responded, in panic, by simply extending his saber forward. The duelist ran himself through on his opponents sword, entering at the mouth and exiting out the back of his skull, killing him instantly +Something something Silver about inferiority of the rapier. +--- 57890800 +>>57890607 +Based beyond belief +--- 57890852 +>>57890728 +>a fencer of superior skill and experience (he had apparently won 5 duels prior) was defeated by a lesser opponent. The duelist opened with an impressive flourish, to which the opponent responded, in panic, by simply extending his saber forward +Very common situation, happened for several times in many countries. I've read about similar event in Spain or Argentina. +The knife fighting culture is a preindustrial tradition, more common in the South, currently marginal and tied to organised crime. One of the last more or less famous knife fighters would be Pasquale Barra, a "torpedo" for New Camorra. His skill with a knife was praised by his boss in latter's poetry. However he's more known for assassinations and false testimony rather than duels +--- 57891083 +>>57890507 +Btw, some german fraternities still practice fencing/duels. It's not as popular as it used to be but not unheard of either. You can find such frats in every major uni city. +--- 57891204 +>>57890507 +>>57891083 +Not only is it still practiced, at times you'll have illegal honor duels without protective equipment happening +See this case from Erlangen a month ago +https://www.nordbayern.de/region/nach-verbotenem-duell-bei-burschenschaft-erlanger-studenten-in-aufruhr-1.13040191 +--- 57891340 +>>57890507 +>attacks were pre choreographed +That one's not quite true, niggy. + +t. Scar haver (not an alcoholic) +--- 57891380 +>>57891204 +wtf I didn't know Germans were still cool like that +--- 57891401 +>>57891340 +Are you from a 20s German frat? +--- 57891439 +>>57891401 +They still exist and practice honor duels even today, anon. +--- 57891489 +>>57891439 +Interesting. +--- 57891527 +>>57891439 +Did you get yours in honor? I kind fucked up getting mine, parried badly and managed it to slit open my eyebrow diff --git a/k/57890487.txt b/k/57890487.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..10fdae6398e96b83b7a21fcb6fd04aca2e92a20e --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890487.txt @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +----- +--- 57890487 +You now remember the 2010 Victory Day Parade, where Ukrainians, British, American, and Polish troops among others marched in Red Square with the Russians, four years before Crimea. + +It was the most wholesome /k/ino event ever. The future could have been so bright. +--- 57890512 +>>57890487 (OP) +There was nothing wholesome about the alliance with the Soviet Union when the war was happening +--- 57890603 +>>57890487 (OP) +Medvedev presidency was literally just a facade. Potemkin country. +--- 57890605 +>>57890487 (OP) +>wholesome +It was not. Georgia was still fresh and the americans/russians didn't exactly have the best relationship still. +--- 57890679 +NormandieNiemenbros... +--- 57890817 +>>57890487 (OP) +China had some events (and a parade) for the 70th anniversary and I don't think the U.S. sent a representative but they included America and also American volunteers anyways in their socialist heroic-socialist realist concert which I thought was nice of them. + +https://youtu.be/Rv-EZXM5kAA?t=4191 [Embed] +--- 57890830 +>>57890817 +--- 57890841 +>>57890487 (OP) +>US Army victory parade through Moscow after NATO forces inflicted a crushing blow to Putin's forces in just 48 hours during Operation Snow Storm (2024) +--- 57890851 +The mask always slips down. diff --git a/k/57890499.txt b/k/57890499.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4e667eba321e3cf5179e86255ae3c6825dc79c94 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890499.txt @@ -0,0 +1,43 @@ +----- +--- 57890499 +Militarily speaking, how would a Canadian Civil War look like? +--- 57890514 +>>57890499 (OP) +We remove the terrible frenchmen. +--- 57890516 +I don't know what a Canadian Civil War would look like in any form of speaking. Militarily, politically, socially, no idea. +--- 57890517 +>>57890499 (OP) +It would look like American intervention and annexation. We've always wanted an excuse. +--- 57890520 +>>57890499 (OP) +>how +*What would it look like? +Dumb ESL. +--- 57890524 +unironically speaking, pretty brutal with all the american lunatics pouring across the border with their guns +--- 57890534 +>>57890499 (OP) +WEXITroons get unironically curbstomped by the CF, the US interventionists, and other NATO members. +--- 57890571 +Polite. +--- 57890600 +Heavy urban warfare. Small ethnic communities banding together against each other in suburbs (Brampton gangs). Western Canada minus Edmonton, Vancouver and Victoria island forming their own nation. Quebec fully departing, while Ontario breaks up amongst its deep urban/rural divide +--- 57890606 +Quebec mopping the floor with the lesser territories. +--- 57890720 +>>57890499 (OP) +Chinese Vs Indians in the snow +--- 57890741 +>>57890720 +kek +--- 57890746 +>>57890499 (OP) +>>57890499 (OP) +>would a Canadian Civil War look like? +--- 57891188 +>>57890499 (OP) +Canadian identity is not nearly splintered enough for that to happen. As much as everyone likes to joke about Canada having no culture or shared identity, the list of countries more likely to violently bifurcate runs into three-digit numbers. +--- 57891462 +>>57890499 (OP) +eh buddy diff --git a/k/57890546.txt b/k/57890546.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..37b3b656780283c587e70a355bff786e3eca7ef4 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890546.txt @@ -0,0 +1,39 @@ +----- +--- 57890546 +>We'll create the best weapons engineers, scientists and designers by denying the freedom of information +--- 57890560 +>>57890546 (OP) +>We'll create the best weapons engineers, scientists and designers by denying the freedom of information +--- 57890576 +https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ep6YVqc6Ks [Embed] +--- 57890582 +>>57890560 +>t.Retard +--- 57890939 +>>57890560 +This is an unfathomable level of stupidity. Patents are public record. That's the entire point. +--- 57891056 +>>57890546 (OP) +>Reddit watermark +--- 57891103 +Anyone after this post, who posts in this thread without saging, is here by cursed to never find cheap ammo or primers again. +--- 57891108 +>>57891103 +Suck it +--- 57891119 +China and Russia will never win because they waste the potential of real genius by persecuting gays. +--- 57891120 +>>57890546 (OP) +yeah, I'm sure the average vodka chugger russky and the average chink look like that lmao, that shit makes nazi propaganda look reasonable +--- 57891180 +>>57890560 +Akshually patents promote freedome of information because without patens there would be huge incentive to keep technology as trade secrets like it was during medieval times when guilds kept their trade in secret and nobody except guomd memebers were allowed into master's workshops. Obvious negative consequences is that people a gonna reinvent things over and over because they don't know that is already inveted. + +Also it makes inventing things that can't be protected by secrecy like Velcro straps not profitable and inventors would be less inclined to work in this direction. + +So patents of course like everything can be abused but they are necessary compromise bettwen giving invertor incentive and opening information for public so they don't reinvent the wheel all the time. +--- 57891210 +>>57891119 +This but unironically. Gays, jews and urbanite perverts are more intelligent on average + +Why do gays like being referred to as an increasingly unwieldy acronym though? Its soulless as all hell to be called an LGBTQIwhateverthefuck. Then again they are freaks. diff --git a/k/57890548.txt b/k/57890548.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ae70a53ac4811cc7600b7b37cb98204ff5ff83f9 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890548.txt @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +----- +--- 57890548 +Will this work? +--- 57890586 +Yes shooting a mango will cover the window in mango +--- 57890620 +>>57890548 (OP) +No, there are much better ways to peel a mango. +Some might not involve killing the colored, but are way easier in return. +--- 57890627 +>>57890586 +Fippy bippy +/thread +At least this killed a Ukraine thread. +--- 57890630 +>>57890548 (OP) +No, the mango would stop the bullet before it got to that guys head +--- 57890651 +>>57890548 (OP) +no, the mango will cause the gun to explode like in Looney Toons +--- 57890680 +>>57890548 (OP) +Is he franking his fruits now? +--- 57890694 +>>57890548 (OP) +I've heard of this being done with potatoes +--- 57890696 +>>57890627 +It killed a revolver thread, you dunce. +--- 57890700 +>>57890548 (OP) +No, it doesn't change that the mango still has that inedible core +--- 57890703 +>>57890694 +supposedly IRA +--- 57890704 +>>57890548 (OP) +How do suppressors work? It's baffling! +--- 57890712 +>>57890703 +better photo +--- 57891463 +>>57890548 (OP) +--- 57891476 +>>57890703 +Of course the IRA would use a fucking potato. +But then no doubt they saved the blasted remains afterwards to put in their cooking pot. +--- 57891486 +>>57890703 +Puts a whole new meaning to "potato gun" +--- 57891520 +>>57890627 +Makes your job much easier, eh, pidor? +--- 57891536 +>>57890548 (OP) +In short, no. Suppressors work because they're made of rigid metal that can contain expanding gases until they dissipate just enough to not sound quite as loud. A mango wouldn't contain shit; it would just get blown apart by the bullet leaving the gun, and then the hot gases coming out of the muzzle behind it would be free to expand just as rapidly as they normally would, creating a loud "BANG!". + +As an aside, I can almost see the .22lr with the potato silencer working, since there's a chance that the relative rigidity of the potato, coupled with the low energy of the .22 and the lack of high-pressure gases behind it might just all combine to create a situation where the potato seals against the muzzle and has the bullet icepick through it instead of blowing up outright. +--- 57891566 +Alright but what about if we did this, would this work? +--- 57891569 +>>57890703 +>potatoes +>supposedly IRA +>supposedly +--- 57891580 +>>57891566 +>eat your exotic fruit you little shit diff --git a/k/57890695.txt b/k/57890695.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..69b89a307474d5e3172391fa1cb086e4550c140f --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890695.txt @@ -0,0 +1,130 @@ +----- +--- 57890695 +Why didn't he use the sniper? +--- 57890705 +>>57890695 (OP) +(They) instructed him to keep (him) safe +--- 57890748 +Why didn't they know first aid? +--- 57890769 +Why didn't he shot German? +--- 57890780 +>Captain leading a squad +--- 57890789 +>>57890695 (OP) +Why didn’t they know Czech? +--- 57890795 +>>57890695 (OP) +This movie stops being good after the Normandy landing. The premise is pretty dumb, any general could have just sent a letter to the officers in the field saying "if this dude is with you, ship him back home" and that's it. The combat scenes are decent tho +--- 57890796 +>>57890748 +Wade was first aid. The rest can be second, third, fourth, etc. but not first. +--- 57890818 +Why is he Italian in the movie? Are Italians mulattos? +--- 57890821 +>>57890695 (OP) +Why didnt he just leave? +--- 57890825 +>>57890818 +Because they were his brothers in arms, thus family (TM). +--- 57890855 +What happened to this guy? Did he get shotted with the German face gun? +--- 57890871 +Why was this bozo calling for his mom when she was thousands of miles away? She can’t hear that far is he stupid? +--- 57890873 +>>57890871 +Dammir +--- 57890880 +>>57890695 (OP) +Because this movie is objectively bad outside of spectacle and visual effects. +--- 57890883 +>>57890780 +There's some mumbo jumbo about it at the beggin ing of the movie iirc they fold the rest of his decimated company into a different one due to casualties after D-Day. Hey, at least it wasn't that much of an ass-pull. +--- 57890892 +>>57890769 +Why did Spielberg make that German who stabbed the this guy look exactly like the German the squad let go at the machine gun hill? I saw the movie on TV when I was 14 and thought that Germans were assholes because of this. +--- 57890898 +>>57890780 +https://youtu.be/UhUQ11F0VG4?t=251 [Embed] +--- 57890927 +>>57890780 +thats the least stupid thing about this movie +--- 57890999 +>>57890780 +1. It's explained that most of his commanded soldiers were KIA after the beach landing. +2. He was given a special assignment that was fitting for his rank. As a captain, he had the authority to give orders to any friendly grunts he encountered if it helped his mission. +--- 57891045 +Why did he just stand there? +--- 57891076 +>>57890695 (OP) +>>57890748 +>>57890769 +>>57890789 +>>57890818 +>>57890821 +>>57890855 +>>57890871 +>>57890892 +>>57891045 +Why are you a quarter century late with your criticisms of this movie? + +Why don't you have anything better to do? +--- 57891079 +Was this a warcrime? +--- 57891084 +>>57891076 +I just saw this movie I was born in 2005 +--- 57891112 +>>57890818 +Sicilians are. +--- 57891136 +>>57891079 +How would it be? Are you gonna tell me that arty is a war crime? +--- 57891154 +Great film. I get this thread is just bait but anyone who unironically dislikes it is a tremendous faggot. +--- 57891174 +>>57891136 +Yeah but it's meant for planes not people doesn't the geneva convention apply to that sort of thing? +--- 57891179 +>>57891174 +Why would it? +--- 57891184 +>>57891112 +mutts law +--- 57891191 +>>57890818 +cope +--- 57891250 +>singles out Saving Private Ryan as a prime example of dehumanization of WWII German soldiers +>ignores the entirety of Russian cinema being violently cartoonish in its depiction of Germans to the point of being mistaken for satire by Westerners + +What did Rob mean by this? +--- 57891271 +>>57891174 +bullet is bullet +If someone uses the machine gun on the roof of their tank to take potshots at a passing plane, does that suddenly make it a war crime to blast a jerry with it 30 seconds later? +--- 57891286 +>>57891250 +>>singles out Saving Private Ryan as a prime example of dehumanization of WWII German soldiers +What a retarded take +--- 57891361 +>>57891271 +>bullet is bullet + +Why are only FMJ bullets allowed in modern war? +--- 57891389 +>>57891361 +the US didn't sign the Hague convention, we can use whatever we want. And it never came up at Geneva. FMJ is used because the slight increase in expansion is overshadowed by the loss in penetration both of body armor and cover. +--- 57891423 +>>57891361 +The real answer is because FMJs are the ammo of choice for sports shooting, and most modern infantry are marksmanship enthusiasts carrying overgloryfied sporting rifles. Bullets are meant to be solid projectiles, FMJs are solid projectiles, hollow points and expanding bullets and shit are just meme rounds. +--- 57891594 +>>57891250 +>>57891286 +Fury was alot worse showing them like bugs. A whole divison of troops continously zerg rushes the stationary tank one by one getting mowed down in the same places their buddy was. At least in SPR theyre shown maneuvering on their positions and responding to the ambush with tanks or repurposed AA +--- 57891635 +>>57891594 +hordes of faceless enemies is one of the genre's main ingredients, but I would argue that Fury did an ok job in humanizing them with the kids that gets mowed down after the ambush and the pow that gets executed +--- 57891663 +>>57891594 +I feel like fury did what most war films did and contrived stuff for the sake of making cool scenes, didn't get the idea of it dehumanising Germans when they had the whole scene with the civilians and stuff. Also showing how the Americans were becoming monstrous because of the fighting diff --git a/k/57890747.txt b/k/57890747.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e4ea91d5a1d5687576624846f1c70239abf0cd4c --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890747.txt @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@ +----- +--- 57890747 +Y’all jazzed about the UAP hearing in 30 hours? + +If you could axe the airspace spooks one question what would it be? + +Are they reverse entropy drones from the future? Transdimensional spacetime shifters? Weird bugs? The Abyss monsters? Bad coding causing the physics engine to break? + +Anyone ever seent them? +--- 57890756 +>>57890747 (OP) +How many breedable female aliens has the government been keeping from me? I have a right to know what type of exotic pootang I have been denied. +--- 57890761 +>>57890747 (OP) +Nothing interesting gets said at such hearings, ever. There are no aliens or future humans coming to visit us. The world is not that interesting +--- 57890799 +>>57890747 (OP) +Seems like a nice scam. Get gov't funding and a cushy pension doing fuckall then every once in a blue moon, tell congress "Ahhh geeez dood, I dunno what's in the sky. We need more money dood. I dunno... ten billion dollars???" +--- 57890859 +>>57890747 (OP) +I’d axe why cucumber tastes better pickled +--- 57890870 +>>57890859 +Pickled foods are good, actual pickles are fucking gross. Pickled cucumbers are fucking disgusting. Kill yourself. +--- 57890885 +>>57890747 (OP) +Those are obviously bloons, we need to start arming moderate monkeys +--- 57890887 +>>57890870 +> not eating pickled dill spears that go perfectly into the cut in your microwaved breakfast hotdogs +Why even life? +--- 57890901 +>>557890747 +Idk +--- 57890909 +>>57890747 (OP) +YOU ARE THE NAVIGATOR +--- 57890916 +>>57890901 +Pic too large for 4chin +Here's full res +https://files.catbox.moe/hf2vx5.png +--- 57890988 +>>57890747 (OP) +What if was wakandans the whole time. Egg on our face amirite +--- 57891002 +>>57890747 (OP) +What did they mean by this? +--- 57891015 +>>57890988 +Close, its just chink spy balloons. Always has been. +--- 57891043 +>>57891015 +Bro I watched them for days in the Atlantic in 2005. They’re not chink spy balloons. Chink spy balloons can’t go from acting like a satellite to stopping entirely to whipping away and disappearing over the horizon in a second. + +And why the fuck would everyone have been reporting chink spy balloons in world war 2 or the 1890s? diff --git a/k/57890824.txt b/k/57890824.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5011b6aad9fb594fc9ea1cf210f417eb53f0f9d3 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57890824.txt @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +----- +--- 57890824 +3d printed firearms are now seen as a status symbol among the ghetto dweller community. diff --git a/k/57891016.txt b/k/57891016.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ce9b474afa65a62d1c86278508129de65426e1d4 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57891016.txt @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +----- +--- 57891016 +The RAF rapid capabilities office in collaboration with industry partners in just six weeks has developed an unmanned vertical takeoff UAV armed with Starstreak (seen here firing the Martlet missile variant). + +>https://youtu.be/DdxUdVqLqIw [Embed] +--- 57891032 +More pictures of this versatile weapon system. I wonder if we'll see this mass produced and deployed to Ukraine or if it will be kept for the UK. +--- 57891062 +More +--- 57891113 +Isn't Martlet an air-to-ground missile? Starstreak is A2A. +--- 57891121 +>>57891032 +>versatile weapon system + +That power cable sure looks versatile +--- 57891125 +why have they chained him? +--- 57891137 +i'm pretty sure some violations of safety code were made when they tested that missile +--- 57891141 +>>57891032 +>>57891016 (OP) +>>57891062 +call me a hater but i assume it will just be a prototype/step in development towards a larger fully functional unmanned attack helicopter or similar and that this model wont see production or use in any real unit +>>57891113 +martlet is a multirole (it does s2a and a2s and also s2s) missile developed from the starstreak iirc + +>>57891125 +would YOU want a rabid lethal attack drone loose in YOUR neighbourhood? if not write in to your local MP today! +--- 57891193 +>>57891113 +Martlet builds on starstreaks ability to target whatever you point it at and offers a more omni target warhead than the AA optimised darts of Starstreak. On all systems where they are used, they are interchangeable. +--- 57891199 +>>57891121 +It'll be a data tether for the test. + +>>57891125 +To keep him from running amok +--- 57891256 +>>57891016 (OP) +Kino. Looks like a retarded robot from a Verhoeven film +--- 57891276 +>>57891016 (OP) +Is this the first armed vtol drone that's not dropping mortar bombs? + +I can't wait until these are mass produced and the RAF starts hiring fat gamers to sit in the UK and control them. +--- 57891334 +>>57891141 +>>57891193 +cool stuff +--- 57891375 +>>57891016 (OP) +How does is target enemy air if it's line of sight +--- 57891465 +>>57891375 +Shoot at what you see. Not difficult when your missile range is like 7km +--- 57891475 +>>57891016 (OP) +Looks like a retarded helicopter +--- 57891477 +>>57891465 +Ok but what does the targeting? +--- 57891483 +>>57891016 (OP) +can't they make it look less like a shitty plastic toy? design matters, damn it +--- 57891539 +>>57891477 +There will be an EO sensor that looks for and then tracks targets. The drone will then project a laser grid around the target and the missile flies to target with a rearward facing sensor that detects where within the grid it is and where it needs to be. + +There are also versions of Martlet that use EO, radar and laser designation (reflection). +--- 57891564 +>>57891125 +Typically when testing new VTOL systems you always tether them to the ground before you clear them for free flight. It's just a safety precaution, more relevant now than back when they were testing manned vehicles tbdesu, unmanned systems being tested tend to be real squirrelly before they get the tuning right. +--- 57891607 +>>57891539 +Ah, fair play I didn't see the sensor. +--- 57891614 +>>57891564 +There's a very cool video of a GBI interceptor that hits its target in space using rocket engines for translation/rotation doing its thing in a cage with a net underneath to catch it. +--- 57891631 +So I’m confused (shocking), I thought Starstreak was an anti-air only weapon, is that not the case? What kind of seekers can it be configured with? Warheads? How much RHA can such a slender body defeat if using HEAT? +--- 57891675 +>>57891631 +Starstreak hits whatever its pointed at. The system is able to engage jets moving at 9g+ so pointing the laser at a vehicle or boat isnt difficult at all. + +Martlet is the same system but has a rocket motor/warhead designed for all targets short of a tank. (although there is a tandem HEAT warhead option). + +Having a weapon you can use on pretty much anything makes mission planning so much easier. Here is the missile system being tested on a remote 30mm deck gun for the Royal Navy. +--- 57891679 +>>57891113 +Starstreak can defeat Toyota's and unarmoured vehicles as well as some lightly armoured vehicles diff --git a/k/57891022.txt b/k/57891022.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3d51add0e68781df113da35d6789ac8c196ad892 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57891022.txt @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@ +----- +--- 57891022 +You have been tasked with subjugating this region and forcing its inhabitants to recognize your rule by any means necessary. +Your initial force consists of a 1000 strong rabble of Serbian war criminals, African tribal levies, fanatic Jihadists, and mentally ill Southeast Asian Touhou fans of mixed competence that will mostly follow your orders. +Assume Yukari and the people at your chosen starting location (anywhere in Gensokyo, even if not specified on this map) are neutral. +--- 57891157 +define: mostly follow your orders +--- 57891177 +>>57891022 (OP) +>1000 strong rabble of Serbian war criminals +is there rakija "in game? +--- 57891231 +>>57891157 +Susceptible to drunkenness, littering, war crimes, sexual assault, and generally unprofessional behavior without supervision. They may disobey dangerous orders out of fear or laziness if morale is low and they are not properly incentivized. Otherwise, they will not desert or attempt to subvert your command. +>>57891177 +You have a small budget of a few million dollars every year that you can spend at your discretion. +--- 57891269 +>>57891022 (OP) +literally just release them into the wild and let them do whatever they want they'll destroy the place on their own. +--- 57891279 +>>57891022 (OP) +How durable are they vs the fodder fairies in game that you kill tons of on a per level basis? I'm thinking you might need more than a battalion of guys if you start making enemies there. +--- 57891308 +>Size the human village to secure alcohol and food for troops +>Then size road of liminality through implementation of checkpoints to control flow of traffic +>Finally attempt to size komachi's ferry for control of the river +If someone wants to expand on this please do +--- 57891319 +>>57891279 +Scarlet Devil Mansion maid fairies were pretty easily defeated by Lunarian rabbits armed with bolt actions. +Most fairies and a lot of youkai are actually pretty weak, though obviously minibosses and named characters are a cut above the rest. +Given that these are adult men that may be wearing body armor, they'll better withstand injuries from weaker mobs than Marisa and Reimu. +--- 57891383 +>>57891022 (OP) +>serbs +Blockade the roads, set up artillery on youkai mountain and shell the fuck out of human village. +Round up all fighting age males… +--- 57891543 +>>57891308 +>>Size the human village to secure alcohol and food for troops +>seizing Gensokyo's supply of alcohol +I'm pretty sure this would be enough to make everyone there turn against you and have Yukari force you to go ass to mouth on yourself +--- 57891670 +>>57891022 (OP) +Misty Lake, take the fairies as our wives and use their abilities to live off the land, accuse the Human Village of being jaundiced-skin sorcerers who consort with demons and follow the Imam's advice on how to deal with various supernatural nasties we'll encounter. +Make some excuse that we'll conquer it "eventually", but do nothing but slowly build up our land while the region around us continues to go about their lives, with the added danger of wildmen with thick beards who speak in strange tongues and occasionally seize humans and youkai alike, never to be seen again. To be safe from them, it is recommended one covers themselves in pork grease before traveling near the Misty Lake. diff --git a/k/57891115.txt b/k/57891115.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..cddf8b0c1e28761ab000dcf806a3c1a829979067 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57891115.txt @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +----- +--- 57891130 +>>57891115 (OP) +>New Zealand above Japan +What the fuck are you smoking? Also can't imagine why you'd put Israel that high, they were less useful than mosto f the other countires on that list in basically all the ME conflicts. +--- 57891138 +Israel should be in top 1 +--- 57891149 +>>57891115 (OP) +the Philippines is actually a great ally. they're just too weak militarily +--- 57891172 +>>57891115 (OP) +>Baltics +Great partners but not that great, mostly on account of being tiny with near-nonexistent militaries though that isn't really a fault of their own +>New Zealand +Useless, far worse than Canada as a political and military partner +>Japan +Should be far higher +>Philippines +Rank highly subject to change, and usually better +>Pakistan +Not really an ally or enemy. +>Saudi Arabia and Israel +Literally sponsor attacks/directly attack US forces and citizens +--- 57891181 +>>57891115 (OP) +>israel +They've been getting military secrets and technology and selling both for decades. +--- 57891201 +>>57891115 (OP) +>NZ +--- 57891217 +>>57891115 (OP) +Surely Ukraine rates highly. They might not be as high as Australia, but that's due to history, and Australia will not think twice before doing things like sending aid across the world if it's what the US needs them to do. Ukraine is on the way to graduating with honours from that level of good boy university +--- 57891229 +>>57891115 (OP) +Germany, Japan, Sweden, and Canada being in C-tier tells you all you need to know about this list (it's shit) +--- 57891237 +What's actually the deal with the Phillipines? Was Duturte just an autist and we're going back to usual business now under BONGBONG? +--- 57891263 +Kiwi anon here, what the fuck were you thinking OP? +--- 57891298 +>>57891130 +kiwi here and this is accurate, regardless of politics nz has such a limited effect +yes, we deploy troops to every engagement that the us conducts but we muster a force of like 300 for each one and its a token of support and not anything more. japan might not contribute materially to any current conflicts but they are positioned as a great buffer and staunch ally against china and thats the entire point. +if we're just judging against capabilities they are definitelly in the same tier as italy and canada, but not as bad as fr*nce or tur*key because those two actively work against US/NATO/Western interests +--- 57891322 +>>57891130 +Japan has low military spending and had a "pacifist" mentality for long, they need a lot of US help. Also Israel is the enemy of our enemies (dabbing on Iran, Assad and all the cunts that wish "death to America"). I don't hear them begging constantly. + +>>57891149 +lol they shake hands with china all the time + +>>57891172 +I agree with NZ, they're kinda useless, but Japan is at 1.0% of GDP mil spending. They see the US is helping and think its enough. + +>>57891181 +they dabbed on the S-400. I don't think they are bad, but that requires not having a brain infested with DA JOOS propaganda + +>>57891217 +Yes, I forgot Ukraine. I think they deserve strong green. + +>>57891229 +These countries used to talk shit about us all the time, and their militaries were on "America gets it done" mode until recently. Sweden has a good MIC, but that's it. +--- 57891339 +for those confused: https://www.iastoppers.com/articles/major-non-nato-ally +--- 57891370 +>>57891322 +>These countries used to talk shit about us all the time, and their militaries were on "America gets it done" mode until recently. Sweden has a good MIC, but that's it. +I don't really care that some Canadian anons made you butthurt. Those countries host US bases in strategically important regions, produce important tech, share intelligence, and lend personnel to your country's operations. As for "why don't they spend more?" the answer is "why should they if your country is willing to foot the bill for transportation?" Your list is shit. +--- 57891373 +>>57891130 +Blood is thicker than water +--- 57891386 +>>57891115 (OP) +>Taiwan +>Israel + + +Kek. +--- 57891391 +>>57891130 +>israel +Back to /pol/, chud +--- 57891396 +>>57891322 +Flips are the most pro-USfags out there though? It might as well be ingrained in their dna. +--- 57891412 +>>57891130 +If anything the jews are a liability given an alliance with them means the entirety of the ME goes and sucks off the other party. diff --git a/k/57891315.txt b/k/57891315.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..da557c5e5f6fdc44cc3816805a6587544ec54c36 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57891315.txt @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +----- +--- 57891315 +People routinely make fun of and call /sci/ anons autists and nerds, /pol/tards are universally recognized, /o/ are cagies and so on. You can call them that and nobody cares and life goes on, a bit of bant is allowed, yet you call a /k/oper a /k/oper in a lone post and that unfailingly gets you banned, to say nothing of how triggered you get. +Is this board literally redit? +--- 57891332 +It goes in all fields +--- 57891360 +>>57891332 +dont forget to downvote and report +--- 57891405 +>all of these posts were made by at most two individuals using the same typing style, daily, between 18:00:00 to 00:00:00 +Not a good idea to point this out anon. +--- 57891415 +>>57891315 (OP) +SIRS THE NEEDFUL +--- 57891505 +>>57891315 (OP) +/sci/ is a shitshow, it's /pol/tards thinking they are smart and seek validation for their retarded thesis on race and or the vax. It's full of schizos and junkies who talk nonstop about drugs and a lot of people who are on Adderall and think of themselves as smarter. +If 2018 /sci/ knew how to do double integrals, this one can barely sold a equation with 1 unkown +--- 57891535 +>>57891505 +yeah /sci/ has totally gone to shit since i left kek +totally unrecognizable now +--- 57891583 +>>57891505 +>>57891535 +>oh no people that disagree with my state brainwashing are posting on the board how horryfing +>double integrals being anything special for people that actually went to a decent college +Kek you fags need to go back to preddit. +--- 57891589 +>>57891583 +that's where we are now +--- 57891601 +>>57891583 +You know you just admitted to having a college education and holding beliefs in direct opposition to the current research in at least two separate fields, right? This makes you look like you have a mental disorder. +--- 57891602 +>>57891583 +here's a "free" thinker, except he is always thinking about trannies and jews +--- 57891609 +/pol/ is full troll and schizo +/his/ is paradox games, not too awful, but not great either +/trv/ is sex tourism +/v/ was always shit +/tv/ is whatever's currently popular and celebrity worship +/biz/ is crypto scams gallore +Dunno about other. +--- 57891620 +>>57891609 +/sp/ is metastasized bone cancer. +--- 57891622 +>>57891609 +/his/ has become /religion/ +--- 57891628 +>>57891609 +/sp/ is a sightly better /int/ +--- 57891658 +>>57891628 +I have a soft spot for /sp/. I don't normally go there, but it's absolutely hilarious during major sports events. +--- 57891664 +>>57891315 (OP) +/pol/ is still right when it counts. I laughed when they said it’s Jews playing both sides in Ukraine. Turns out that even the Telegram account of Donbas Devushka is a fucking Jewish female living in the US. + +It’s a total fucking disaster, I don’t even know how they do it, but it’s literally every single fucking time. + +/k/ on the other hand has probably never been right on anything, /arg/ is some trips giving out shot information, leviathan shills astroturf like mad, the only acceptable threads are precision shooting related. Other than these you get the impression that most people here never held a gun or interacted with a human being without having a gun pointed at them. Also just allowing Ukraine politics while not allowing talk about gun policies is absolutely the reason for all this spam. +--- 57891671 +>>57891664 +Can you people go five minutes without bringing up the fucking Jews? +--- 57891674 +>>57891609 +/sci/ used to be homework and now is /pol/ under a veneer of science +/k/ used to be guns and now is reddit +--- 57891692 +>>57891664 +Fuck off, you retarded kike. /pol/ has become what it used to criticize and has been completely subverted, shilling for third world shitholes, commies, jews and shitskins. They're the very definition of useful idiots. +--- 57891697 +I only go to /k/ and /tg/, although /k/ is borderline almost gone to complete shit after the war started. / tg/ has the largest percentage of white adults on 4chan it seems. I do occasionally go to /vg/ to discuss one game or another and wade through the non-stop coomer art — probably majority Asians. diff --git a/k/57891320.txt b/k/57891320.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..93dc45ca80f0cf81cc91966891f25dc7ce510e88 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57891320.txt @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +----- +--- 57891320 +EU superpower 2030 +--- 57891344 +>>57891320 (OP) +>EU superpower 2030 +Based off of the performance of middle eastern and african armies, that’s not likely +--- 57891345 +>MSM is brainwashing propaganda +>unless it says something I want to believe +Ya +--- 57891348 +>>57891320 (OP) +you VILL accept our trillion regulations +--- 57891352 +>>57891320 (OP) +Soon we'll conquer Russia and the UK, next will be China or America. +--- 57891359 +>>57891320 (OP) +>masturbate too much +What amount of masturbation is considered "acceptable" by the military though, and why would that be relevant? +--- 57891402 +>>57891359 +Masturbation causes thin wrists. +--- 57891434 +>>57891320 (OP) +I, for one, can't wait for the Brazilian-Indian War in Nigeria, with a special guest appearance. +--- 57891442 +>>57891320 (OP) +The EU is a superpower. It is also a friend and ally to the USA, NATO the G7 and like the USA has brought endless invention and prosperity, charity and literacy to billions. God Bless the USA the EU NATO and the G7, the free nations and fuck the rest. +--- 57891455 +>>57891402 +No it doesn't +--- 57891466 +>>57891320 (OP) +If the EU was its own national entity, it would be the second largest economy on Earth and the third most populous. If the west was as autistic about muh multipolarity as China and Russa were, then making the United States of Europe a thing would be a worthy goal instead of whatever autism the Vatniks and Chinks want. +--- 57891469 +>>57891455 +Prove it fagboy +--- 57891479 +>>57891402 +And blindness and hair growing between fingers, right? +--- 57891498 +>>57891320 (OP) +EU won't even exist by 2030 (thankfully) +--- 57891504 +>>57891498 +the EU will outlive Russia +--- 57891528 +>>57891359 +your jizz contains a lot of nutrients and minerals. iodine and zinc being the big ones. if you're constantly cooming you're stripping your body of those vitamins and minerals and frying your dopamine receptors in the process. if iodine gets too low it can cause thyroid problems and a cascade of issues that come with an ailing thyroid. low test from excessive cooming is also a thing. so it's not an issue of morality, it's an issue of excessive cooming having actual measurable effects on the body and mind. +--- 57891534 +>>57891504 +congrats. you'll be africa 2.0, but you outlived le ebil russians lmao +--- 57891546 +>>57891466 +The EU has like the USA vast cultural, economic, diplomatic and military power. This ranges from things like francophone media to the fact that the Catholic Church and the Vatican are in Italy (although utterly independent of the EU). Aside from the USA the EU really has no technological or military rivals and like the USA is a massive food exporter and innovator in everything imaginable at levels that really Don't exist outside the US and EU (possibly the UK and G7). It has the only significant aerospace industry other than the US and while very upsetting to some vast shared cultural overlap from US Presidents visiting Ireland to the Italian, Poles, Irish, Germans and French stock in the USA. The EU states are democracies as long as the EU and USA and G7 stand together as democracies then civilisation continues. +>>57891466 +>whatever autism the Vatniks and Chinks want. +Squalor. +--- 57891558 +>>57891320 (OP) +>Young Europeans not interested in joining the military, would rather play roblox and pray to mohammed +killer robots are the only viable way forward +--- 57891561 +>>57891528 +So you suggest that people should be jacking off into their own mouths? + +To conserve all those precious nutritients of course. +--- 57891567 +>>57891498 +>>57891504 +both of those posts are true +--- 57891573 +>EU superpower 2030 + +Why would Muhammad want to join a European army when he can stay home and fuck European women while European men die in war? +--- 57891574 +>>57891528 +>>57891561 +Also: Cumsluts are now the smartest and most optimal people on earth. +--- 57891578 +>>57891534 +Know your place pathetic vatnigger scum. Banging your disinfo drum while using wager human trafficking networks to try and pump illegal immigrants into the EU while funding and using Russian shill networks to promote populist kremlin qusilings is part of the reason that Russia will be erased and you helped cause that. +https://www.brusselstimes.com/406754/italian-minister-accuses-wagner-of-using-migrants-to-punish-ukraines-allies +"“The exponential increase in the migration phenomenon from African shores is also, to a significant extent, part of a clear strategy of hybrid warfare that the Wagner group (…) is implementing using its significant weight in several African countries,” the minister said in a statement." +Russia Saviour of the white race? More like shit on the shoes of the white race +--- 57891682 +>testosterone levels lowering worldwide +>expect the future armies to be comprised of cat eared femboys in programmer socks +>get fat illiterate drooling neets instead diff --git a/k/57891368.txt b/k/57891368.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..859ea01cdf8025efef94daed36a7d2acec1a5512 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57891368.txt @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@ +----- +--- 57891368 +It is considered bad opsec to post pictures of your guns online. +--- 57891414 +Reminder: it is considered extremely funny to wind up a shill enough that he posts said photograph. +--- 57891454 +>>57891368 (OP) +No gun no opinion, post gun. +--- 57891482 +>>57891368 (OP) +I would never post anything I own online but most people don't care. +--- 57891667 +>>57891368 (OP) +>says the noguns thirdie from /pol/ +Thanks for the reminder, fatso diff --git a/k/57891526.txt b/k/57891526.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..527da7d516152c7fd4c5a341f7d66f6672a889fd --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57891526.txt @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@ +----- +--- 57891526 +So /k/, what is the best LPVO money can buy. FFP or SFP? +1-6 / 1-8 / 1-10? +Which Brand? +Which Reticle? + +I'm curious about the new PA plx 1-8. But the illumination sucks ass as usual with lpvos. +--- 57891547 +>>57891526 (OP) +Just got a primary arms 1-6 acss raptor. Its cheap but seems like it's gonna be worth what it is worth. +--- 57891582 +>>57891547 +Yeah, i have an old Stike Eagle 1-6. But the illumination an the reticle seems a bit dated. Nonetheless it's what you payed for. +Higher price equals more quality for sure. +--- 57891598 +>>57891526 (OP) +Nigforce is pretty good but is like two G’s +--- 57891625 +>>57891526 (OP) +Schmidt & Bender PMII 1-8x Shortdot is the absolute gucciest option I can think of, especially if you want to slap some clip-on thermals and a rangefinder on your rifle to go with it. But even though you asked what the best money can buy is, it's legitimately diminishing returns past the ~$1400 price point. A S&B is unassailable quality but it's not twice as good as an ATACR or three times as good as a Vudu/Tango6/Accupoint. +--- 57891626 +>>57891598 + +yeah, that sucks ass m8. +But what model would you recommend? +--- 57891646 +>>57891625 + +this sounds reasonable. +Maybe i will end up with the lightes option. So PA with an ultralight mount. +--- 57891668 +>>57891626 +The NX8 had glass that could spot all the pores on the teenage wagie who unlocked the glass cage in crystal clear definition. +https://www.brownells.com/optics/scopes/rifle-scopes/match-precision-optic~-mpo-5-25x56mm-rifle-scope/ +While it isnt a LPVO I heard this thing is good diff --git a/k/57891542.txt b/k/57891542.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6047d147cc096794ae5f256434db43d75ae14f39 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57891542.txt @@ -0,0 +1,39 @@ +----- +--- 57891542 +New here? Want a firearm? +https://pastebin.com/Ndb2jSAu +https://howtogetagun.ca/ + +>Want to hunt? Hunting license info: +https://pastebin.com/nC8RpYb3 + +>Want to buy something? Recommended vendors list: +https://pastebin.com/1yxHj5RG + +>Want to help firearm rights? +https://firearmrights.ca +https://nfa.ca +https://cssa-cila.org + +>Shitty Thread? /cangen/ Anti-Spammer filter list: +https://pastebin.com/6Ewshhfv + +>Hobbyists corner: +https://print2a.com +https://ctrlpew.org +https://fosscad.org + +Rules of Cangen: +>Rule 1: No Furries +>Rule 2: No trannies +>Rule 3: No slav bumfight content +>Rule 4: No noguns PPC D&C +>Rule 5: Go shooting + +Previous >>57884356 → +--- 57891645 +When you have an hour, please watch this video, and spread it to any likeminded individuals you know. It's not particularly radical, so moderately awake types should be pretty receptive to it. What he is suggesting already has a proven working model in Orania, practically utopia compared to 99.9% of the world today, and with zero gov't funds. Canada absolutely has enough land and an impotent enough gov't to make parallel self-sufficient communities possible, and it will be important, if not required, for white survival in the coming dark times. Thanks. + +https://youtu.be/WrNOT2OiykE [Embed] + +leafgun pic for on topic diff --git a/k/57891568.txt b/k/57891568.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f9a45b8c3c59475a5b3fcc6a8c6aade993949ba7 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57891568.txt @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +----- +--- 57891568 +>Leop-ACK +--- 57891586 +it's debunked already rajeesh, photo from polygon + +post hands, no toilet for you today +--- 57891691 +>>57891568 (OP) +Unloved how flimsy and delicate tanks actually are. Any explosion bigger than a hand grenade will harm the turret/chassis interface, making the tank even more useless than before. It is such a failed concept and such terrible design, if not for the eternal boomer we would no longer use these armored coffins. diff --git a/k/57891572.txt b/k/57891572.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f939491a49a593ea506212631c917c2a229d7424 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/57891572.txt @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ +----- +--- 57891572 +This wagner dude tells about mass murders of civilian and children. +Got sick just by watching it. +Fucking animals +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYqdso9Hx_8&ab_channel=%D0%93%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B3%D1%83-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%9E%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8 [Embed]%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB +--- 57891588 +It would be a hell of a story if it weren't fake, pity really. +--- 57891600 +>>57891572 (OP) +He doesn't show it, so why are you getting sick? He's describing things you should be familiar with after 1 year of finally paying attention to Russia - something that has been part of their history since the start and has never stopped being part of their nature. +To paraphrase one Russian writer - you need to confront these things and get accustomed to their existence, get callouses on your soul from the harshness of reality so you can carry a constant reminder of what life outside the West is like. +--- 57891606 +Ovechkin promised breaking news about Prigogine that will end his reign on monday. +What we got is just another video of russian subhuman confirmed what every normal person already knew. +--- 57891630 +I have no ounce of sympathy for Wagner and the Russian military, I hope they all get killed +--- 57891689 +>>57891572 (OP) +>%D0%93%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B3%D1%83-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%9E%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8 [Embed]%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB