Mon Apr 17 08:32:15 UTC 2023

k/57772495.txt

@@ -749,3 +749,15 @@ yes, we know, youre point troon friend?
 --- 57876586
 >>57859366
 Will you ever stop be spastic retart posting what no one else cares about.
+--- 57877620
+>>57786233
+if people knew who karl really was they wouldnt idolize him, karl marx is the type of guy to store his pee in bottles.
+--- 57878142
+>>57853284
+>>57859505
+Nah I mean I just want one patch (one design) for myself cause whoever originally sold them disappeared from the internet back in like 2018
+--- 57879415
+>>57862583
+WHAT DO THE FLOWERS MEAN
+WHATS IT STAND FOR
+THERE MUST BE SOMETHING MORE

k/57819001.txt

@@ -794,3 +794,18 @@ Bore sight
 I was shooting my X95 in a Sandy place, gun got lots of sand in it. When I pull the trigger it feels sandy and the gun is not firing at all, no click.
 
 Is the trigger linkage not working? Hammer doesn't appear to be moving forward cause I hear no click when I pull the trigger. I thought this was a military rifle developed for the Middle East that could withstand a little sand.
+--- 57877140
+>>57867180
+>>>/o/
+>>57868454
+>>>/diy/
+both of you will get better answers there.
+--- 57879056
+>>57830928
+What is pic rel?
+--- 57879084
+>>57836400
+In addition to different/cheaper bullet design, sometimes cheaper powder. For example, defensive handgun ammo might use low-flash powder so you don't blind yourself. Same ballistics, smaller fireball, more expensive.
+--- 57879105
+>>57842079
+I think it has more to do with the shape. Hard cast bullets are often semi-wadcutter, which (at least according to fuddlore) is less likely to deflect off bone.

k/57824354.txt

@@ -1298,3 +1298,54 @@ Do they ever fight the imperialist American pig dogs? Or was the enemy so no nam
 --- 57876038
 >>57875822
 I never watched it. I got the screengrab from CDF and posted it here. From the one clip I saw, it was the same basic "strength through patriotism and faith in the party" bullshit.
+--- 57876828
+>>57832045
+Wanting? This you? If so, how was the baptism?
+--- 57877903
+>>57868214
+>士兵突击
+I'll have to give it a watch
+there's a show i've watched a little bit of called Glory of the Special Forces AKA China Special forces AKA 特战荣耀
+It's basically just PLA propaganda following this guy who's the perfect mary sue Lei Feng soldier
+it mostly depicted modern PLA training, though there are parts showing chinese special forces units fighting nondescript southeast asian terrorists
+
+I'm the PLAN Marine kit anon by the way, I mainly watched the show just to see realistic Chinese equipment in action, but it was decently entertaining, especially the stuff where they do wargame training
+
+on a similar note, I want to put together a PAP modern kit, but their uniforms are way more expensive than the type 07, maybe because they look cooler lol
+--- 57877940
+>>57874643
+>>57875623
+And for years I thought it was some white guy, wow, the more you know.
+--- 57878564
+>>57875623
+>sixteen fucking years in this godforsaken website
+I'm gonna be here forever am I?
+--- 57879103
+>>57876038
+No. This tv is strange. 
+It doesn’t have a single word of party thing. From the first episode you’re told this zerg face guy join the army just because his father think that’s a way to get out of village. 
+It yells also some practical problems. Some soldiers have to go because their motor rifle division is going to be resized as a BCT. 
+Zergface’s sergeant can’t go further and have to go out if he doesn’t do something great in the war game. Because he doesn’t have highschool certificates. Eventually it’s zergface himself did something great. Sergeant retired. 
+…
+This is not a party shit. I recommend you to watch it. 
+By the way. 特战荣耀 is total shit. Leave it alone.
+--- 57879233
+>>57877903
+This is a total shit. A shame. 
+Old apc and copycat bmp are gone. Type 81-1 and copycat m81 are changed to cool guns and cool camo. 
+Even money is enough now. 
+But they are unable to make the second 士兵突击 anymore. 
+Propaganda shit is one reason. Shit actor worshipped by fag fanbase is the other. 
+The girl(in type 07 ceremonial dress) in this photo is great. She’s a real kungfu actor. She could be the Kara Wai if she were born decades earlier in HK. 
+
+Nowadays all tv are about shit love story under the disguise of PLA tv, police tv, or something else. It’s total nonsense.
+--- 57879257
+>>57877903
+No I’m wrong. I mean the girl in camo. 
+The type 07 person is the purposed lover of main character. The setting and acting are all cwcville level.
+--- 57879282
+>>57876828
+What Baptism? I’m not Christian.
+--- 57879295
+>>57877940
+What???? I thought you all know it.

k/57834081.txt

@@ -357,3 +357,20 @@ If I could find some Finnish swivels it'd have a K31 sling instead.
 --- 57876417
 >>57876109
 Three sub 50k Springfields. But none as actual gastraps. Want to track down some of those repros Criterion made a few years ago for one of em
+--- 57877520
+>>57875105
+youre like a funko pop collector
+--- 57877542
+>>57875645
+just this saturday i ran a match with my VZ 98/22 and a borrowed Glock 20 
+did pretty well
+--- 57877623
+>>57874014
+--- 57877842
+>>57877520
+Ahhhhh fuck you're right
+--- 57879555
+>>57875645
+I just got my first milsurps this month so I don't have ammo for them yet. 
+
+Also, unfortunately, nowhere in town to shoot so I have to drive a ways.

k/57836283.txt

@@ -788,3 +788,13 @@ https://www.ebay.com/itm/384217618084
 --- 57875920
 >>57875910
 yeah dont think itll fit muh rnvgs maybe when I swap housing to 1431.
+--- 57877098
+Bump
+--- 57878506
+Boo!
+--- 57878739
+>>57878506
+Yeah
+--- 57879639
+>>57878739
+Oh.

k/57837602.txt

@@ -957,3 +957,139 @@ Shouldnt you be waiting for your daily ass ream by your nco
 >>57875604
 NJfag here
 I feel a bizarre mixture of relief and annoyance that getting my MP15 was much, much easier than getting my Glock was
+--- 57876816
+>>57875604
+Places that make it so handguns *and* semiauto rifles are hard to get are even fewer than that, as >>57876641 described. So it's a state that makes it hard to get self-loading rifles and pistols, but self-loading shotguns like the M4 are g2g...my money is on him not even being American.
+--- 57876831
+>>57876816
+It's probably MD because of their retarded "heavy' barrel rule, which has no real definition from what I can determine making ANY AR somewhat dubious unless it specifically calls itself MD compliant.
+--- 57877366
+>>57862381
+The Chinese definitely aren't going to bother with armor, either. It can't even put down American rebels because Level IV is commonplace now.
+This gun is a retarded cash grab.
+--- 57877455
+>>57864337
+READ, NIGGA. READ.
+--- 57877503
+I think the biggest issue is the two ammos. The Fury one is issued for combat, but training would be done another lower pressure one to preserve the gun. One, they suggests the Fury ammo degrades things quicker. Two, it sounds like a bad idea to train with anything other than what you will actually use.
+--- 57877532
+>>57837602 (OP)
+Because it creates jobs in flyover states
+--- 57877536
+>>57877503
+>t sounds like a bad idea to train with anything other than what you will actually use.
+
+not as big of a deal as you people are making this out to be. When I first came into the Army we trained with nothing but 55gr M193, but when deployed we were issued M855A1.
+--- 57877581
+>>57840216
+Incredible how much more sophisticated, understated, and svelte this thing is compared to the bloated crap from the NGWS project. And nobody even knew about it until it was already completed.
+--- 57877639
+>>57877581
+because it failed out in the selection round.
+--- 57877791
+>>57877639
+No it didn't. It's from a completely different program called the Individual Weapons System.
+--- 57877812
+>>57877791
+>It's from a completely different program called the Individual Weapons System.
+
+FN submitted this weapon for NGSW as well, here is their press release for it lol. 
+
+https://fnamerica.com/press-releases/fn-selected-produce-two-prototype-options-u-s-army-next-generation-squad-automatic-rifle-program/
+--- 57877926
+>>57877812
+READ NIGGA. READ.
+
+>The company can confirm earlier speculation that one of the submissions is a lightweight machine gun and the other is the FN HAMR™, a heat adaptive modular rifle.
+>FN HAMR
+
+Clearly not the rifle mnetioned in the post you just quoted.
+--- 57877936
+>>57877926
+>Clearly not the rifle mnetioned in the post you just quoted.
+
+
+Sure, you can pretend that if you want.
+--- 57877987
+>>57877936
+HAMR is a SCAR variant
+--- 57878000
+>>57877936
+Stop being a disingenuous cunt and accept you're wrong, you little shit.
+--- 57878050
+>>57877987
+>HAMR is a SCAR variant
+pretending this also isn't a SCAR variant, lmao.
+--- 57878089
+>>57875054
+Well yeah but I thought there might have been a specific new problem. Like I just found out about the handguard flex the other day so I was wondering what else Sig managed to fuck up
+--- 57878099
+>>57870199
+>80,000 psi
+>intermediate round
+it shouldn't be possible to be as fucking retarded as you are, how are you managing it?
+--- 57878104
+>>57840216
+Does anyone have more details on this, i only remember hearing it was designed for socom and that's about it
+Frankly i think they should have just made a steel or polymer case 5.56 ++p effectively
+ >>57870065
+Why the fuck would we make a new cartridge if it can't pen armor? Oh yay the gun has a Uber scope and Uber range, but what if the enemy is behind cover, is moving, or you simply don't notice them 500 m away? It seems like a very niche situation to engage combat at that range
+--- 57878122
+>>57878104
+> but what if the enemy is behind cover, is moving, or you simply don't notice them 500 m away?
+my running theory is these people think IRL combat works like a videogame where you catch entire platoons right out in the open and then when you engage them they just crouch or go prone on the spot and let you pick them off one by one, like ARMA AI. in reality infantry engaging infantry half a kilometer away with rifles is going to have very questionable results, even if you have a 8x power scope and a hotloaded magnum round....
+--- 57878127
+>>57878089
+that's what i was referring to
+--- 57878129
+>>57870712
+Realistically NY due to the new semi auto license scheme
+--- 57878134
+>>57869037
+>every infantry squad now has a fighting chance against enemy drones
+Well that's officially the most retarded explanation for the M7 I've seen so far, congrats.
+--- 57878179
+>>57878122
+>my running theory is these people think IRL combat works like a videogame where you catch entire platoons right out in the open and then when you engage them they just crouch or go prone on the spot and let you pick them off one by one
+
+Realistically, with the other systems being fielded to go along with it, any infantry force is just going to be fucked either way. 
+
+>Small, squad launchable, suicide drones
+>connected displays/HUDS that can get real time intel, and target highlights WITH thermal fusion optics. 
+>integrated weapon guidance via the same HUD
+
+
+The scope is there to fix you in place with you get killed a half dozen other ways.
+--- 57878291
+>>57837602 (OP)
+To piss you off. You specifically.
+--- 57878361
+>>57837602 (OP)
+>But... why?
+"Butt" why not anon?
+
+In all seriousness, I actually like the XM7, but more as a replacement for DMR type roles, not for a standard infantry rifle. 
+
+>>57843472
+
+I am actually more interested in the ballistics of a hotter 5.56 using sig's casing tech. I wonder if something like Geiselle's enhanced BCG (specifically the carpenter 158 steel bolt) could take the pressure increase of such a 5.56 round.
+
+5.56 at 3500-4000 would be Kino.
+--- 57878374
+>>57838141
+egg carton body armor
+--- 57878419
+>>57878291
+this
+fuck that guy
+--- 57878551
+>>57878361
+5.56 at 35-4000 is basically a more compact 22-250 (think 7.62x51 to M2 ball); to the best of my understanding 22-250 has a similar level of energy to a 7.62x39 which is still sufficiently controllable so a souped up 5.56 wouldnt be a bad idea
+--- 57878571
+>>57878179
+>The scope is there to fix you in place with you get killed a half dozen other ways.
+Sounds like a super-dee-duper task for the squad DMRs and MGs and not something every rifleman should be tasked with.
+--- 57878631
+>>57873766
+Hybrid case alows to make case head from high strength steel. You can't draw case from the high strength steel, it neet to be ductile. Ductility and strength are opposite sides of the properties. Hybrid case solves this problem, head and walls can be made from different materials with different properties. 
+Higher head strength = higher working pressure. More power from the same barrel and powder charge. "Free lunch".

k/57843595.txt

@@ -576,3 +576,21 @@ It's Grisaia: Phantom Trigger
 --- 57876547
 >>57857599
 It's kind of what happened to Olympic fencing. It's become a simulacrum of a sword fight where you still win if you boop your opponent a split second before his momentum runs his sword through your neck. It's not that the fencers and, it follows, the shooters aren't athletic or skilled, it's that the sport has become more of a game than a martial art. I suspect it's at least partially why HEMA and stuff like three-gun competitions have been getting more popular over the past few decades.
+--- 57877183
+>>57872606
+statistically speaking if you teach people to shoot from cover instead of standing in the middle of armed opponents you'll live longer. But not too flashy then
+--- 57877231
+>>57876547
+This is true. A lot of techniques that evolved for sport are useful in their niche, but quickly stop making sense in real combat when they would get you killed. What's worse is when people attempt to rectify this without proper training or experience (e.g. BJJ practitioners reintroducing Judo throws to their curriculum with bad form and no prior emphasis on how to safely break falls).
+--- 57877306
+>>57864361
+lol fuck off glowie tourist
+--- 57878199
+>>57864361
+>gun
+>gun
+>gun
+>gun
+It's about the shooting, such as the shooting of the bow, rather than the bow/gun itself, you low IQ faggot.
+
+Seriously, you are quite dumb.

k/57847204.txt

@@ -219,3 +219,12 @@ Can anyone identify this guy's boots? They look cozy
 --- 57872925
 >>57870842
 Based
+--- 57878233
+>>57870148
+Yes and if you disagree you're a bad guy and open to getting wasted too
+>>57870842
+Amen brotha. Real patriot hours
+--- 57878243
+>>57849143
+>Vatnik-tier copers
+You are a fucking retard if you think that "muh k/d, muh run around the desert for 20 years, muh less than a 3000 dead" Afghanistan cope is at all equivalent to "unsinkable, Bakhmut in two weeks, T-14s coming any day now, T-54 is literally fine, 200k deaths is NATO exaggeration" Ukraine cope.

k/57847993.txt

@@ -994,3 +994,41 @@ You should take your meds.
 --- 57876553
 >>57875616
 And they just keep doing it, they can't even stop when it gets pointed out, because eventually it gets pointed out all the time and then one tool in their shill toolbox would be gone. So what else is there to do beside to watch how they mechanically continue while still not really adding anything to the thread.
+--- 57876957
+>>57876553
+You should take your meds.
+--- 57877047
+>>57876553
+At this point it's just hilarious to watch how he's stuck in his little bump loop and forced to continue.
+--- 57877061
+>>57876553
+This schizo sounds more butthurt than an Enumclaw horse enthusiast
+--- 57877184
+>>57877047
+And lets not ignore how he gets more mad over time.
+--- 57877263
+>>57874897
+It's not a thread.. is a lancet kino thread.
+--- 57877403
+>millions in tax dollars being used to blow up some dirt poor Russian kids that never had a break in life 
+This world is pain
+--- 57877452
+>>57877403
+>Russians good boi
+>didndu nuffin
+>please now feel emphatic
++15
+--- 57877835
+>>57877452
+shut up man
+--- 57878856
+the mega butthurt posts in this thread and walls of text about "armatard glowie screecher" made me want to install MPV and post a webm from the latest intel slava post kek
+
+This is weapons related because it shows the actual use of a Russian weapon in the Russo-Ukrainian war of 2022-
+--- 57879655
+>>57877403
+Fuck ya mudda you subhuman shillnigger. 
+
+They chose their fate while the Russian Legion chose to fight for civilization. 
+
+Why are the Serbjeets all frothy today?

k/57848080.txt

@@ -910,3 +910,56 @@ The penetrative power of arrows through armor is overstated, and then like some
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CULmGfvYlso&pp=ygUTbG9uZ2JvdyB2cyBnYW1iZXNvbg%3D%3D [Embed]
 
 (These results obviously change depending on head)
+--- 57876869
+>>57876465
+Doubt they would have been overstated when they’re being fired at you. You wanna put all your confidence in something like a 15th century blacksmith made you?
+--- 57876911
+>>57876447
+>Smearing Brugel the Elder
+Fuck you, he was a shitposter 500 years before 4chan even existed. Show your predecessors some goddamn respect you uncultured swine.
+--- 57876965
+>>57876869
+>>57875208
+>we only have examples of armor that wasn’t shit 
+Never thought about that before. How hard is it to actually know the quality of medieval armor when the worst of it wouldnt have survived to become a historical artifact
+--- 57877057
+>>57876965
+There's a few surviving pieces of lower-quality armor out there. A neat detail that you don't see depicted often is that lower-quality armor pieces were often painted, partially because it looked cool, and partially because it helped to cover up the shit quality of the metal.
+--- 57877095
+>>57876965
+>>57877057
+Some of the paintjobs are actually pretty rad. I imagine this is the equivalent of a poorfag spraying a Punisher skull on his totally-not-airsoft gear.
+--- 57879511
+>>57875208
+>Fucking peasants didn’t have regular access to dyes and the diy that peasants could do sucked.
+But they did have regular access to dye, just like you said in the same sentence. Weld and woad and alder buckthorn and etc. are everywhere and accessible to the average peasant. Just the fact that medieval societies and governments had to limit the dyes available to different social classes goes to show it was inherently possible for even the lower classes to wear properly dyed clothes. Why else would they ban them from doing so?
+--- 57879518
+>movie is literally about agincourt 
+>final battle is just a generic movie moshpit 
+>no spike walls and frontline archers just generic opening salvo
+>ruined hairstyles for zoomers 
+What a waste
+--- 57879524
+>>57875208
+Friendly reminder that bogs tend to leech colors and generally produce coloring agents that are either brown or orange.
+--- 57879556
+>>57879524
+I'll let you in on a little secret the lord and the dyers' guild doesn't want you to know. The mushrooms in the forest are free. You can just take them home and dye your yarn with them.
+--- 57879563
+>>57848303
+they absolutely could pierce shitty 15th century steel
+--- 57879564
+>>57879556
+You can also make blue and green paint by crushing duck/goose feces with chalk. :~)
+--- 57879643
+>>57879511
+All the ingredients to make a bomb are readily available to contemporary peasants and yet they don’t?? 
+
+Like just because people COULD do something doesn’t actually mean they often did. Particularly not proper peasants who were both socially/religiously expected to stick to natural/neutral tones and would be the least likely to be able to or interested in fucking around with dye baths. 
+>>57879524
+Reminder that dying only really worked with cotton. Leather and hide were leather and hide colored. And dying was basically like dunking a sweater in light cool-aid. Color would have leeched off most peasant clothes pretty quickly. 
+
+
+Also the streets did frequently run with rivers of shit and piss throughout the Middle Ages. Cross walks were basically invented and high heels were partially popularized to keep people’s feet and clothes out of all the shit. Pit stains and shit stains and piss stains are more noticeable on that arent shit/piss/pit colored.
+
+And everything was dark as fuck. Can’t be stressed enough how dark life would have been. Their only sources of light could burn their house and city down. England even taxed windows for a while and mirrors were entirely hoarded by aristocrats. Why bother dunking your trousers in blue piss water just to sit in the dark constantly?

k/57851236.txt

@@ -500,3 +500,30 @@ It'll be hilarious if "homophobe Ruby" ends up being the thing that gets them a
 --- 57876176
 >>57875821
 I hope it does, it would be sad if the last volume was what is pretty much a filler.
+--- 57876702
+>>57851236 (OP)
+--- 57876721
+>>57866825
+>Waifu is em for
+>Raifu is a M4 replacement
+What did anon mean by this?
+--- 57876734
+>>57876721
+That M4 is a waste of space, unfit for peer conflict.
+--- 57877351
+>>57876734
+--- 57878602
+>>57863809
+First is Triela from Gunslinger Girl, in which she wields the M1897 shotgun and bayonet.
+--- 57878725
+>>57868179
+>Boring
+But practical
+--- 57878762
+>>57878602
+Thank you anon.
+--- 57878968
+>>57855860
+--- 57879009
+>>57861661
+this person knows. this person gets it.

k/57851565.txt

@@ -1107,3 +1107,57 @@ IT'S BEEN MEMORY-HOLED, shrieks the stupid faggot who remembered it wrong
 It's been memory-holed in the sense that the Independent has nuked the original story off their own web page... hence, the need for Wayback Archive as an unbiased source.
 
 Can we go back to BattleTech now?
+--- 57876797
+War is hard to show accurately because the truth of war is boring and cruel. The action is brief and brutal where men either act according to their training or panic and do stupid things. There's no anime style deep thoughts and inner monologue and cool thought provoking exposition between people amidst a fight. Fighting is surprisingly simple and dumb, whereat who ever hits first when the other least expects it will win. They dont show the long trek across difficult terrain and weather, the illnesses and hard work and boredom of camping, having higher ups be ass pains the whole time, the back pain of sitting on uncomfortable seats in vehicles (or saddles), foot pain from walking, sleepless nights, constipation and diarrhea, headache, no place to jack off, no shower, bedbugs and hairlice, unwashed unwiped ass, and extreme cold or heat
+--- 57876905
+>>57862771
+There are only two types of women that scare me, white women because they are psychotic and polynesian women because they will eat me
+--- 57877162
+>>57862082
+based atomic rockets enjoyer
+--- 57877360
+>>57862082
+>guns heat up fast and cool down slowly
+>hot brass an active fire hazard
+Are we actually going to return to revolvers and boltguns in space? Can Mosins on Mars still happen?
+--- 57877476
+>>57855988
+>activating your weapons is kinda aggressive looking for an outsider
+I love how their "best of us all" guy saw how stupid the Minbari were and was endlessly frustrated with them.
+--- 57877702
+>>57856182
+>Facism breeds wokeness!
+To fight the woke, we must understand the woke. We can ill-afford another Bud Light.
+--- 57877747
+>>57851590
+how the fuck you gonna get range, heading, and speed if you cant get a radar signature?
+--- 57877764
+>>57852271
+>>57872851
+agreed, fantastic shot, cool change of direction, a pity about what it would have done to the crew inside that coffin
+--- 57877768
+>>57856380
+Battletech is one of those properties that I should enjoy and has occasionally piqued my curiosity but I never got into it, perhaps for this reason. It was interesting though... this new tabletop gaming bar opened up in my town (popular place too) and I wandered in and saw a couple probably in their late 30s / early 40s playing Battletech. I was, like, well that's cool in an unusual way.
+--- 57877783
+>>57851776
+the only good example i can think of is the hyperion novels
+--- 57877795
+>>57858053
+based
+--- 57878726
+>>57877360
+Not likely. Brass may pose a hazard but plastic won't. We'll probably see polymer body cases with brass, steel, or nickel rims if using conventional actions. Push through actions using prism ammo like the rotating chamber action seen on the G11 and Stoner's cannon may also make a comeback, or Dardick trounds if a very high ROF is needed.
+--- 57879198
+>>57862322
+All concessions to the board game so you could have a map or battlefield that would fit on a kitchen table with enough detail to have each mech in one hex. 
+
+Yeah the longest ranged ballistic weapon has less effective range than a modern HMG but just ignore that and say if they fired 20km I would need a map the size of my house to play on.
+--- 57879239
+>>57855980
+For all the autism of Kubrick a few things slipped by.
+--- 57879263
+>>57856172
+Watch, Starship Troopers Traitor of Mars if you want to see fascist Emma Watson.
+--- 57879464
+>>57858110
+Actually it's pretty clearly defined, they just changed the term from g"lobal warming" to climate change because the former gave inept retards like yourself an aneurysm when it wasn't 86 degrees in the winter

k/57852332.txt

@@ -672,3 +672,189 @@ i accept your concession
 >n-n-n-n-no a-a-a-a-argument!
 lol
 you're fucking pathetic.
+--- 57876811
+>>57876025
+making shit about SEA countries + india disliking china? all you need to do is pay attention to the news.
+also ironic to be called out on "making shit up" by the person claiming that chinkshit navy outnumbers and outqualifies the USN. youre butthurt that at the end of the day USN still has way more tonnage, better quality ships, and actual experience using those ships in conflict compared to the notoriously corrupt PLAN.
+>b-but 003>ford according to chinese state media
+lmao. Can we see it?
+lets assume this is true. how many 003 does china have functional and battle ready? how many 003 class carriers are battle tested? are those crew experienced? how many j20 pilots and airframes are battle tested?
+anyone can figure out those answers for themselves and make their own judgment using critical thinking, another feature of intelligence not very popular within your glorious one party state.
+--- 57877221
+>>57857722
+You're baiting, but inflation in China is crazy. Officially prices of vegetables have increased by up to 25%+ in 2022 for example. Unofficially I now pay 20 for a nice pineapple and 10 for a kilo of good eggs on the market.
+--- 57877265
+>>57877221
+> and 10 for a kilo of good eggs on the market.
+Chinese pasture eggs are superior. I wish i can get them here.
+--- 57877434
+>>57877265
+Honestly they are still way below Euro eggs. I tried buying the expensive ones from different aunties, but it just doesn't come close.
+--- 57877468
+>>57852332 (OP)
+--- 57877519
+>>57876811
+disliking China does not mean they will stick their necks out for you. If you think otherwise, you are delusional.
+>battle tested
+I'd rather have superior training hours than being "tested" by taking 2 days to shoot down a balloon. kek
+I bet you don't know that the PLAAF has more hours than the USAF. 
+actually, you don't know a lot of things. Oh boy, you will enjoy this ride.
+--- 57877555
+>>57877519
+>brings up the ballon for no reason
+--- 57877564
+>>57877519
+Got numbers to back that up?
+--- 57877569
+>>57877221
+>but inflation in China is crazy
+You are making shit up lol. I was in Tianjin last month, stuff are still at pre covid price.
+>>57875701
+US have no allies in Asia besides Philippines lol. Vietnam is closer to China than USA
+--- 57877584
+>>57877569
+Wow a place known for cheap shit goods....sells things at cheap prices! Anyway lmao this nigger forgot Japan and South Korea exist
+--- 57877591
+>>57877584
+Japs an SK have crazy inflation lol
+--- 57877597
+>>57877591
+Ok so does China but they’re still allies..?
+--- 57877663
+>>57877519
+disliking a country means that they will comply with sanctions. youre also forgetting that some countries may actually have economic interest in stealing cargo freighters attempting to go to china. Free crude anyone?
+>id rather have superior training hours than being battletested
+so, as a bodyguard, you would rather hire a soldier that has only played paintball for 200 hours vs a soldier that has 40 hours of actual combat experience + 140 hours of paintball?
+that's some brilliant reasoning.
+>PLAAF has more training hours than USAF
+can we see it?
+>muh balloon
+https://youtu.be/PuGLQZ646o8 [Embed]
+lets see an actual experts opinion on how implessive this balloon was. The thing was sighted immediately, and if you know youre being watched you hide stuff and the espionage becomes useless. Biden said that they didnt shoot it down because of debris. the real reason is that the US was doing counterintel on the balloon.
+--- 57877695
+>>57852332 (OP)
+Anyone calling for a land invasion in china is actually retarded. All you would really have to do is wait until flood season and blow the 3GD at peak levels. You would kill almost 1/3 of China's population immediately, displace another third, and the last third would probably starve as you block food imports into China.
+--- 57877719
+>>57877695
+Unless China nuked someone that’s political suicide, effective but killing 350 million people isn’t wise unless China becomes absolutely completely insane
+--- 57877773
+>>57877719
+This is a thread where we are theorizing about land invasions in China. That's basically a "total war" scenario for the West.
+--- 57877885
+>>57877597
+>Ok so does China
+Nope>>57877569
+--- 57877893
+>>57863836
+Most of this is true however they currently rely on foreign nitrogen/fertilizer sources for farming. It doesn't matter how many potential farmers and rice plots a nation has if it can't get enough to grow.
+--- 57877996
+>>57877719
+>noooo we cant just kill hundreds of millions
+They're just Chinese, we should and it would be funny
+--- 57878042
+>>57877434
+You might be mixing up butter with eggs, fattie.
+--- 57878057
+>>57877663
+> youre also forgetting that some countries may actually have economic interest in stealing cargo freighters attempting to go to china. Free crude anyone?
+You’re pretty fucking stupid even for a muttard.
+--- 57878123
+>>57877885
+Yeah they do
+--- 57878184
+>>57877569
+>I was in Tianjin last month
+And I am in China right now mf.
+Not that this is much of a flex with an AQI of presumably 500 in a dust storm
+>You are making shit up lol.
+So you are saying that the Chinese government is making up economic data?
+Why exactly would you think that the Chinese government is faking data on inflation?
+--- 57878204
+>>57878042
+Does that response make sense in Hindi?
+--- 57878305
+>>57878057
+https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privateer
+https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Agreement_on_Tariffs_and_Trade
+https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/sea-power-us-navy-and-foreign-policy
+dont know your history? Dont even know that chinese success was dependent on the US patrolling the global oceans and ensuring free trade? I could have expected that from an uneducated shill.
+Guess what happened before a dominant power with force projection maintained sea lanes like the US or the brits. that's right, privateering, piracy, and state piracy.
+Do you think that china, with its mostly corvette-based navy, can patrol and secure sea lanes? you need larger ships with larger ranges. China doesn't have enough destroyers to patrol every sea lane, and if it tried to, it would spread itself thin and get torn apart by the navies of other countries looking to steal some sweet cargo under the pretense of some bullshit charge like smuggling or maintaining sanctions.
+Cargo freighters are also not cheap. Eventually shipping companies will refuse to go to china because of the risk of losing all their cargo and their ships to pirates, privateers, or other states.
+--- 57878339
+>>57878305
+You’re a dumb fuck.
+--- 57878343
+>>57878339
+Dude at least try to formulate a response
+--- 57878452
+>>57876025
+>>57878057
+>>57878339
+>>57876457
+>makes a shit claim
+>gets btfo by reality
+>"you're a moron/mutt/dumbfuck"
+i hope those 50 cents were worth the pain of getting your bubble of delusion popped.
+--- 57878488
+>>57878452
+And you just know what he’s gonna respond with, come dude say the line!
+--- 57878545
+You can't starve out China dumdums. Have you read history?
+--- 57878575
+>>57854737
+>>57854528
+I think it would be more accurate to say that for the US, the carrot IS the stick. By dint of controlling the world's economy and politics, the benefits of aligning with the US have been historically so vast that simply shunning them is a road to ruin. Lesser powers punish their enemies by military invasion; greater powers punish them by sanction and exclusion.
+--- 57878582
+>>57878545
+DECISIVE TANG VICTORY
+--- 57878600
+>>57878545
+While China is technically self-sufficient, it's still the US' largest agricultural export market by far. If it ceased to be that, the people would definitely feel the pinch.
+--- 57878604
+>>57852332 (OP)
+China is not food-self-sufficient, not by a HUGE MARGIN, if they don't have access to Eastern European grain via Belt-and-road, there will be MASSIVE FAMINES. Creating instability and bringing shame upon the government, whose social contract is "we'll tolerate you if you keep us safe and happy".
+
+Making starting/supporting a massive Civil War VERY EASY. Meaning that a large faction will likely be happy with US presence. Meaning there will be no landing craft or bloody beach needed, if they have coastal land we'll be able to walk right in, hand them the upper hand in the war, and define a new government. Maybe coup them every couple decades to keep them low, or give them the Japan treatment and vassalize them until the war is old history.
+--- 57878638
+>>57852332 (OP)
+Somaliland has recognized Tawain, it's already over for China.
+--- 57878645
+>>57859560
+>This plan ends in the Chinese firing off their nuclear arsenal in a coutner-value strike just to spite everybody. Probably after building a couple hundred extra warheads and missiles beforehand.
+Unless they secretly have 100x as many nukes as we believe they do, they literally can't nuke all of us.
+--- 57878661
+>>57878339
+no u
+--- 57878704
+>>57853078
+based taste
+--- 57878913
+>>57852332 (OP)
+I can smoke Winnie in Two(2) weeks
+--- 57879060
+>>57859560
+China has such a comparatively small nuclear arsenal that US ABM systems may actually be able to cleanly neutralize a strike.
+Also, they would probably be busy using them on relatively large rebel areas. Or not at all, depending how poor their opsec is.
+--- 57879226
+>>57855352
+>>57859560
+unlikely
+
+>>57854335
+>I suspect even if that came to happen USA may already have by that point such advanced anti-ballistic systems to deny most nuclear attacks.
+
+This unironically
+On the ground:
+>Patriot
+>THAAD
+>ROC Skybow System
+On countless destroyers and every cruiser and AEGIS ashore
+>SM2 ER Block IV 
+>SM3
+>SM6
+
+All very effective against intercepting ballistic missiles, and some very effective against low flying HGVs. And, with the way things are set up, given that we see a 50-70% success rate with midcourse and terminal interception, but much higher with boost phase interception, given the Chinese have 150-300 operational ICBMS and 400 warheads total, and given how many of each of these systems there are on the ground and on the water between CN mainland and US Mainland, they might not even hit Guam let alone CONUS.
+--- 57879250
+>>57879226
+Since Reagan the American policy has hot been to seek better nuclear retaliatory capability, but nuclear invulnerability. We're (probably) not there yet with an exchange that could see thousands of warheads in the air at once, (Poutine press ebin red button), but less than 300? Piece of cake.

k/57853269.txt

@@ -1195,3 +1195,100 @@ Please explain how a naval invasion of a mountainous jungle island that can only
 Yes, it has increased China's caution and now they're concerned about Russian stability.
 
 They still saber rattle because they need it for domestic propaganda.
+--- 57877609
+>>57876263
+it's already been explained many times that they don't necessarily have to invade, just blockade them, in effect placing the entire island under siege until they capitulate. Taiwan is completely within range of China's missile bubble and air-based standoff munitions to accelerate this by knocking out critical infrastructure: ports, runways, hangars, substations, refineries, transportation hubs, food stockpiles, etc.
+
+The island also lacks both strategic depth and self-sufficiency which also accelerates this process. Being an island, there's no easy way to re-supply them either like in Ukraine short of threading the entire PLA A2/AD needle- that means every PLAN ship, every PLAAF airframe, every land-based system on the mainland- it's a lot to go through. All while Taiwan's supplies dwindle in the background.
+--- 57877821
+>>57877609
+> it's already been explained many times that they don't necessarily have to invade, just blockade them, in effect placing the entire island under siege until they capitulate
+Ah yes communists trying to starve US allies into submission sure has worked in the past and didn’t just turn the US into heroes to the people just for dropping food on them.
+
+China being able to win an active economic Cold War against the rest of the world economy and global capitalist mic that just gets economic stimulus from war isn’t something I would ever bet all my chinkdollars on.
+--- 57877948
+>>57877821
+Berlin airlift only happened because the soviets blinked and it was far easier (relatively speaking) to supply half of an enclave city as opposed to an entire island nation of 20+ million. A Taiwan blockade would effectively already be an act of war where China can be assumed to go all-in.
+>China being able to win an active economic Cold War against the rest of the world economy
+They already have, refer to >>57871984. Vast majority of the world 1) has china as their largest trading partner, and 2) does not recognize taiwan as an independent nation.
+--- 57878159
+>>57853319
+When china does it, expect a halt in shipping about 2-3 weeks prior.
+They’ll cite security concerns of something.
+Then they’ll announce halting all trade, causing panic in the states just as no product reserves remain.
+Then market dump US treasuries all at once, crashing the value of the dollar with no survivors.
+Then attacking AWS/Gcloud and crippling most of the normie facing internet, causing panic.
+And then take taiwan.
+The above could happen within a 24-48hr block, and really would be total nigger death for the US.
+--- 57878257
+>>57867023
+France hasn't helped with jack fucking shit since the Revolutionary War, they're currently burning down Paris because they now have to wait til age 64 to retire, the fucking horror. They'd surrender to the Martians if a meteor bounced off the Eiffel Tower. The only thing Hitler did wrong was not throwing the French in the camps too.
+--- 57878378
+>>57877948
+> Berlin airlift only happened because the soviets blinked
+>blinked 
+Bro youse a nation of permablinkers wtf you talking about? I mean mean both in that you’re figuratively psychotic idiots that fuck up everything you try and miss every successful opportunity, and in the shape your face.
+--- 57878411
+>>57853269 (OP)
+it's not even necessarily the case that China is ever going to. bitching about wanting a thing is way more politically useful than actually having it. that's why everybody was so surprised when putin went full retard and actually tried to take it.
+--- 57878427
+>>57867891
+Sure, I don't disagree on anything there, but if it's choosing between that or having an enemy nation have technological leverage over us, then we gotta deal with the supply chain issues
+>inb4 they're not an enemy nation
+That's not what the CCP tells their people on state tv every day
+--- 57878467
+>>57869072
+>so they just say he's senile
+I wonder how much that is true vs it intentionally being played up to make them think he's nothing but a senile old man that doesn't know what he's doing. All I can ever think of is the President Reagan, Mastermind sketch from SNL decades ago and wonder "are we all being played?"
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5wfPlgKFh8 [Embed]
+--- 57878549
+>>57878378
+Pointless, overly literal reading aside, hostilities hadn't erupted outright into war over west berlin because the soviets weren't complete irredentist nationalists over german clay like China is over taiwan. Blockading west berlin was just a means to an end to the soviets: they did it to try and convince them to abandon western currency adoption in favor of a soviet one (it didn't work so they backed down because they figured starting a war over that shit was pointless).
+
+For China, blockading taiwan would be BOTH the means AND the end: total capitulation of Taiwan to de facto and de jure annex it as part of the PRC proper. If it gets to the point where they're initiating a blockade, it means they're confident they can enforce it, and thus there's nothing to back down from. That is basically it: their objective is forcing Taiwan into the fold via blockade knowing full well that means war.
+--- 57878798
+>>57853269 (OP)
+>highest iq take on this board regarding that rn
+>ctrl-f "that's a man" -- 0 results
+Surprising?
+
+...but, please allow me to pontificate & expound further upon the original post's thesis, or perhaps interject with a batshit crazy antithesis: China becomes *more* likely to invade Taiwan now that Russia's been doing it's job in Ukraine for a few years, gradually grinding away NATO weapon stocks faster than they can be replenished, y'know, like, Russia's *already* doing it's job, it just takes... a while. A. Long. While. China's patiently watching, waiting, maneuvering forces into and out of positions in a gathering pattern of elements, adjusted as undiminished & unspent Chinese material is produced & staged into the theater, while NATO juggles about it's forces to deal with the opposite pole of the Taiwan-Ukraine axis and a variety of other emergent conflicts and the multipolarity Sino-Soviet I mean Sino-Russian alliance of BRIClets are gunning for.
+
+>inb4 10 social credit points have been added to your score chang
+--- 57878946
+>>57867476
+Well he has been making a mao tier enviromental retardation with his great green wall idea.
+Basically they ripped up grassland tried to replant trees in its place assuming trees will stop duststorms but never question why there was never trees there so they sucked out all the ground water to water these trees in a desert rapidly accelrating grass dieoffs and desertfication when the ground water drops too far.
+Past few years desertfication has accerated like 3 times over the orginal problem which was caused by mao orginally stopping the mongols from migrating causing thier herds eating grass to the roots killing it in the first place.
+--- 57878996
+>>57878946
+Anyway becuase great leader can't be wrong he decided the more rapidly expanding desert is becuase they weren't planting trees fast enough.
+https://earth.org/desertification-in-china/
+https://www.economist.com/china/2019/05/18/chinas-desert-taming-green-great-wall-is-not-as-great-as-it-sounds
+So he redoubled this to the point that desertfication is now advancing faster than russian offensives at the tune of 200+ km2 a month now.
+--- 57879001
+>>57878996
+How long will it take to fix this if we exterminate the Chinese tomorrow
+--- 57879039
+>>57878798
+>gradually grinding away NATO weapon stocks
+This theory would make sense if NATO was using up ships, aircraft and anti ship missiles, but so far they've been handing over systems that wouldn't be that much use in a naval/air fight.
+--- 57879061
+>>57879001
+honestly without the chinese being an issue its doable.
+We would have alot more river water to play with but even then we have to rebuild the topsoil and plant wild grasses.
+Would also have to reduce the mongols and return them to being migratory lifestyle to allow the grass to regrow but removing them entirely would help.
+Unsure how many years it take for topsoil to stablize enough to where we could leave it alone.
+--- 57879300
+>>57867258
+If several hundred missiles fly out of China how will we know they ARENT nuclear ICBMs?
+--- 57879399
+>>57857493
+
+More like killing off the excess males, amirite?
+--- 57879443
+>>57879300
+China has a no first strike policy
+--- 57879529
+>>57879443
+They also have a don’t do genocides policy I’d imagine

k/57853546.txt

@@ -666,3 +666,176 @@ that's all you gotta do
 Wonder if they'll try to use voice AI to dub all the lines in the girls' voices. That would be amazing.
 --- 57876333
 I would play the shit out of an Ace Combat Strike Witches game.
+--- 57876660
+>>57876203
+Apparently shit like CoD sells pretty well in nipland actually, nips seem to life fps's just fine, they just don't like making them for some reason.
+--- 57876674
+>>57876649
+would it be wrong of me to buy a new mag just so I can paint it and put a sopmod anime sticker on it?
+she seems like a personality fit for nose art and weapon stickers
+--- 57876723
+a chubby blond elf with big tits wearing an american flag trucker hat
+looking at the viewer with a rapist smile
+--- 57876850
+>>57876660
+I too would like to know more.
+They have firearm and militaria enthusiasts for sure but maybe game wise they're good with outside sources for FPS and/or not enough spirit for something to be made well enough by a company in Japan. The best is maybe going first person in Metal Gear Solid.
+....
+Just thinking about it, "I am a hero" could make for an interesting FPS RPG....except for the lack of guns.
+--- 57876863
+>>57876850
+>>57876660
+see Apex Legends insane popularity with Japs and vtubers
+which is a shame
+since that game has the worst fucking character designs 
+especially following the footsteps of TF1 and TF2
+--- 57876882
+>>57876099
+Sorry, all you get is Citadel. Hope you gore, body horror and shotacon.
+--- 57876888
+>>57876882
+I dont like any of those things
+--- 57877046
+>>57876850
+I think a lot of it just has to do with the fact that there really are no Japanese game companies with much interest, or experience, in making FPS games so they mostly stick to what they know and just let the foreign market fill the desire for FPS games.
+--- 57877201
+>>57876674
+Why would it be?
+--- 57877220
+>>57876674
+Just don't take it to a range. Last week a guy with lots of anime decals on his gun and bag was forced to leave by the officer for "pedophilic and groomer displays"
+--- 57877226
+>>57877201
+the mean poster who posts mean posts with images of the brown girl from gunsmith cats will make fun of me
+--- 57877253
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqpHttcH0cc [Embed]
+--- 57877281
+>>57877226
+the guy who posts sopmod will call you based though
+--- 57877312
+>>57876882
+I really want real version that weird ass side loading magnum pistol.
+--- 57877318
+>>57877281
+what color should it be? pink? black?
+a white bordered sticker could work overtop both
+
+>>57877220
+I genuinely believe such situations can be overcome by simply being fucking jacked
+>RO comes over and sees anime stickers
+>then he sees that my arms are the same circumference as his thigh
+>he thinks twice and leaves me be
+you can listen to as much JPop as you want as long as youre the strongest guy at your gym
+you can put as many anime stickers on your gun as you want as long as your the strongest guy at the range
+--- 57877341
+>>57877318
+I'd go for black
+>you can put as many anime stickers on your gun as you want as long as your the strongest guy at the range
+This is true
+--- 57877389
+>>57877350
+Is the joke supposed to be that neo Nazis are all fat or dysgenic Mexicans like this guy?
+--- 57877415
+>>57877389
+yeah that's definitely the joke
+you got it
+--- 57877422
+>>57877318
+Or, and hear me out now, listen to j pop and anime stickers and dgaf about anyone else's opinions
+--- 57877496
+>>57877422
+but passively daring people people to make fun of you while presenting the loaded gun that is your muscled physique is more fun
+>go on
+>say it
+>you know you want to make some little joke about my favorite new Ado song
+>go on bro we're all friends here
+>why wont you say it dude? it's ok to tell me the unfunny shit you're thinking of saying about my sweetypie uwu anime song 
+it really is true that strength of body comes before peace of mind
+when you get strong enough to beat the life out of 99% of everyone you encounter everyday you will begin to know serenity
+--- 57877527
+>>57877389
+That's part of the joke. The other part of the joke is that I've seen a lot of jewesses date men they knew were very racist and disbelieved the holocaust etc. Comedy can hit you from many different angles anon.
+--- 57877533
+>>57876882
+Shit
+I better get back to the citadel even though it ran funny for me
+--- 57877550
+>>57872764
+Should have edited the crow's feet to be all fucked up and also work in a Chrysler Sebring somehow
+--- 57877551
+>>57877496
+>autistic anons' reason to get /fit/
+lol tho
+--- 57877552
+>>57877527
+>tfw knew a sexy jewess
+>she asked me if I visited 4chan
+>denied everything, feigned ignorance in places
+I kinda wonder if I shouldn't have just admitted it now.
+--- 57877568
+>>57877552
+Women basically want to not be convinced their husband/man won't murder them one day.
+--- 57877572
+>>57877551
+as long as it gets results it doesn't matter what your motivation or reason is
+--- 57877872
+So is Boochi actually any good?
+--- 57877881
+>>57877872
+It's one of the best anime I've ever seen.
+--- 57877909
+>>57877872
+I may be viewing it through rose tinted glasses
+I watched all of it one evening during one of my last evenings in Japan
+and even got to recognize several places in the show as places I had visited just days before hand
+so I am very biased towards liking the show because I associate it with a wonderful time
+but 
+my biased opinion is that it is a genuinely good show and despite being made my nips it was actually funny
+--- 57878161
+>>57863482
+>the girl you first kiss
+>the girl you first date
+>the girl you end up marrying
+>her mom
+--- 57878285
+>>57866217
+Good game choice
+--- 57878312
+I wonder what the tactical role is of magical girls in combat. Ajin and Spec-Ops Asuka are the only shows I know of that try to address this.
+--- 57878362
+>>57878312
+There were magical girls in Ajin?
+--- 57878375
+>>57878362
+Well, same principle -- enhanced beings mixed in with regular operators.
+--- 57878380
+>>57878375
+Guess I can see your point
+--- 57878382
+>>57878312
+its probably depends on a few circumstances
+>how to achieve said magic
+>how said magic works
+>how powerful said magic is
+if its something like they can only more easily predict enemy movements based off tarrot cards with reasonable accuracy, probably regulated to advisory positions to supplement intelligence groups, if its some minor physical boons or stealth abilities probably recon, if its something were they pretty much are war gods in the flesh they will be the best shock troopers in existence, might even be a case they take over and its back to feudal standards of main center pierce is an extremely elite group with aux forces for support
+--- 57878625
+>be me.
+>Be white supremacist.
+>All of a sudden this really cute and trad nonwhite chick that hold all the same values and principles as me comes into my life.
+Fuck, this is a Judeo Communist plot to get me to race-mix isn't it.
+--- 57878756
+>>57878625
+Embrace the delicious chocolate anon, trad white women don't even exist anymore
+--- 57878850
+>>57878756
+No, that's not true, they do exist, but what they do is ignore you and make you feel like a bug but talk and flirt to some other dude that is exactly like you, therefore making it impossible to figure out where you went wrong or even if you did anything wrong at all.
+--- 57878870
+>>57878756
+how do I move to Polivia
+it looks like a really good place
+--- 57878925
+>>57878850
+Other guy actually leaves his mother's basement regularly
+--- 57879458
+>>57870636
+Haplogroups are the definitive answer to determining human origins. I was doubtful of this until I found out that r1a which is most common in Poland also has a cluster centered around Lake Chad. Proving once and for all that the Polish are niggers.

k/57853979.txt

@@ -584,3 +584,75 @@ Based AMD-65 poster
 they announced the ak-101 at shitshow 2022 too
 --- 57876584
 Is it worth SBRing an amd-65? All I have to do I break weld and it’s done
+--- 57876692
+>>57873634
+thanks.
+--- 57876808
+>>57876584
+Not worth getting a tax stamp for, but if you're mostly a good boy in the eyes of the law you could probably chop it and not get your dog shot.
+--- 57876814
+>>57876584
+Oh definitely don't do that, the AFT has sensors installed on every pinned and welded muzzle device that instantly alert them when someone breaks tac welds or silver solder without a signed permission slip.
+It would be so bad if you were to break that weld and remove the device. Nobody would ever consider doing that because it's just so bad. So many people will be hurt by that action!
+--- 57876997
+>>57873832
+There are a couple on the front page of akfiles now but they aren't cheap. Still cheaper than the jewbroker ad the other anon posted.
+--- 57877393
+>>57867648
+Yeah I bought a Beryl firing pin for mine too but the stock one hasn't broken yet
+--- 57877897
+>>57874843
+>>57875486
+All points noted. As a Rifle the 104ur sucks but thats how it was imported so its compared against the other 5.45 rifle imports
+--- 57877938
+>>57871581
+Best Fallout DLC ever
+--- 57878015
+>>57860129
+If I recall correctly, that AMD65 was used in some car chase and shoot out in LA or sum lol
+>>57876584
+>>57876808
+>>57876814
+Isn't it only like an inch too short or something w the og muzzle device? Hypothetically, on a custom roblox server, do u think anyone would even notice lol?
+--- 57878044
+>>57878015
+It's close to 16" but more than 1". It's pretty noticeable though. However, very few people outside of gun people and AFT agents even understand gun laws to the point where having an SBR is questioned at all.
+--- 57878266
+>>57870363
+Slowly getting there.
+--- 57878319
+>>57878228
+comfy
+--- 57878390
+>>57878266
+Where'd you source a receiver? Aren't they all one-off projects from boomer welders?
+--- 57878407
+>>57878390
+Troy on boomerbroker. Message them on weapons guild for non boomer broker pricing.
+--- 57878413
+>>57878407
+Based and godspeed
+--- 57878454
+>>57874826
+>>57875063
+Thanks dudes.
+--- 57878573
+>>57878228
+Need to extend the upper handguard too. Have like an AK version of a dissipator.
+--- 57878613
+>>57873181
+mmm herpes
+--- 57878855
+>>57871426
+In what sense can they be considered ak variants?
+--- 57878872
+>>57867008
+bubbaanon, you there?
+--- 57879249
+Oil filters are pleasing
+--- 57879266
+>>57871762
+Get a 56S-2 and get to work. 
+They're are 2 factory 56S-2 spikers in the US that I'm aware of so you'll definitely be piecemealing it together.
+Bakelite sidefolders are cool, but it's just a rifle.
+>But if you have the means, don't let your dreams stay dreams

k/57856696.txt

@@ -1004,3 +1004,11 @@ All they did was kill civilians and make money for themselves, like most CIA pat
  Yes. I understand that, but Trotsky, being a Joo, used other Diaspora Joos as agents, and they would protect each other,(even the non Commie Joos), because of their paranoia about anti-Semitism.
 
  Like I said, the players are still there and the game continues today.
+--- 57877474
+>>57856788
+>executed
+If they actually "executed" him then that would be proof positive it was a work. They're not going to execute somebody for leaking daily briefings that they apparently handed out to everybody.
+--- 57877562
+>>57860620
+>t. uses clearance to get a fat govt paycheck
+There are 1.3 million people with TS clearance. This is a retarded number and it's only getting bigger.

k/57857018.txt

@@ -689,3 +689,46 @@ Are they legit uppers though? Known forge marks?
 >>57876452
 >legit
 Now he's getting picky.
+--- 57876867
+>>57875540
+he was talking about the break version because NJ bans flash hiders. I have the break version on a carbine 
+>>57875621
+you are replying to someone different
+NJ bans flash hiders if it has a pistol grip
+NRA high power bans muzzle breaks 
+there is no reason to use a noncompliant gamergun.
+--- 57877171
+>>57865511
+first range day for the xm-177 went fine, but I found the indoor range that I loved frequenting had gotten far far more irritating to rent a lane. I'm fine with excusing the use of a second range for a low light pistol training. but they had a waiting list when the stalls were not completely full. I was literally the only one with a rifle and a 3 inch .357 magnum and while I could understand the concussion none of those idiots could shoot 5 inch pistol groups at 15 ft, my worst 21ft groups with medium power .357 were better than their point blank groups with .40 and 9mm while the background was filled with hispanic remarks while they traded a 9mm and a .22lr pistol.
+honestly I really miss being on night shift so nobody would be at the range on the weekdays
+--- 57877308
+>>57864471
+Are you the talking balaclava man?
+--- 57877417
+>>57876428
+sauce on strap?
+--- 57877423
+>>57874439
+Given I checked out some time in 2017 and have only been back on occasion because it hurts more and more each time, no.
+
+I haven't.
+--- 57877513
+>>57877417
+Not him but here ya go:
+https://wellsmadecompany.com/collections/slings
+--- 57877740
+Finally got around to making a dissipator and really happy with how it came out. Rifle gas, cycles fine with and without can attached.
+--- 57877777
+>>57857018 (OP)
+May I come in?
+--- 57877799
+>>57877777
+--- 57877817
+>>57877799
+Do not be afraid
+--- 57877840
+>>57863031
+That's not a kimono, that's a maid outfit.
+--- 57878611
+>>57874702
+Its a shitty .22 made by armscor, a philippine gun company.

k/57857308.txt

@@ -595,3 +595,76 @@ Should I bring my little .22lr pistol? It’s a J-22 so I should be able to hide
 --- 57876604
 >>57876543
 Side note, this will be my first stalker challenge. I’ll post a thread with proof week of.
+--- 57876766
+>>57860742
+Do not do this. You would have to leave from City Island in the Bronx and the coast guard will get you. Worked with a few marinas in the area for tv film shoots and you can not go close to that island. It looks creepy as fuck though. If you are in that area I would recommend checking out Nissequogue River State Park. Its an abandoned psychiatric complex that’s easy to access. It’s about an hour drive east of Manhattan. Basically the closest thing to the zone I have ever seen but there is law enforcement at night to keep teenagers out so be aware.
+--- 57876830
+>>57875111
+No one asked your opinion urbanite scum. Go have a Frappuccino at starcucks and try not to get graped by joggers
+--- 57876890
+I miss stalker threads
+--- 57876913
+>>57857308 (OP)
+when you woke up were your pants on backwards?
+>Asking for a friend, said it happens a lot at the dentist office!
+--- 57877010
+>>57870035
+>>57871600
+>>57876543
+I would offer to come with, being an experienced stalker, but I'm not sure how we would organize it. Do you have >dicksword or anything else I can contact you with?
+>inb4 he glows 
+Here's proof that I am not one.
+--- 57877024
+>>57877010
+Thought it was a fucked up AI image where your thumb was where it fucked up the right foot.
+--- 57877662
+>>57877010
+I’m your first reply, I don’t have a discord but I suggest we rendezvous somewhere in Pee Pee before any sort of radioactive excursion.
+--- 57877877
+We straight pimpin
+--- 57877949
+based fucking stalking in this thread
+how do I get into this? I always played "war" in the woods of MN during winter with my best friend, and we would often sneak into places (and under residential decks without the homeowners knowing). was very fun.
+just grab a rifle (preferably Eastern?) and explore random unknown shit?
+I only have good western guns :(
+--- 57877967
+>>57877949
+>just grab a rifle (preferably Eastern?) and explore random unknown shit?
+Literally this. Eat canned meat and quaff vodka innawoods for maximum aesthetic.
+--- 57878067
+>>57877662
+I agree, assuming you aren't a Pike County Sheriff. Speaking of which, are those psychos who killed all those people in 2016 convicted yet? It's been seven years since the massacre.
+--- 57878188
+>>57857308 (OP)
+Thanks for posting, interesting to hear about the bird noises and the fire you built (I remember Bear Grylls talking about fire as a way to raise your spirits)
+--- 57878376
+>>57878067
+this is irradiated anon, I used to work in ross county and before I left around december of last year the news was the original suspects have been released from custody and the investigation is completely pants on head retarded. no leads.
+
+of course this is the hearsay from crack heads and gangsters that I solds crack pipes and meth pipes to. 
+
+also this abandoned shack I'm talking about earlier in the thread is in the same neighborhood as the truck terminal maybe 15-20 minute drive away. my plans were to turn this shack into a stalker hideout. hidden floor board with vodka cigarettes and bullets hidden. card table and chairs and light. plans never went through but I'll drop the gps. The island I was exploring in this thread I'm planning on fleshing out a little more, then I'll drop these gps coordinates and we'll have a private stalker island. Stalker truck terminal, stalker shed on the mountain, stalker island. We're expanding the zone.
+--- 57878422
+>>57857848
+the gps for the shack. the entrance by road is the mountain bike trail head at the bottom of the hill. then you hoof it over the mountain until you pass the radio tower and continue until you're under big power lines. that's where you'll find youre stalker hideout
+--- 57878489
+>>57878376
+Pike County Sheriff's office claims three of the Wagner family (no relation to the even happening on the other side of the world) are in the Country Jail right now. 
+>>57878422
+Neat shack, I've tried to set up stashes a few times in a handful of places in southern ohio to no real avail. I know the one I put at a certain spot in the southern tip of the state (pic related) is long gone, no idea who got it or when. I'd be down to do a bit of stalking if you're up for it, what's your preferred method of contact?
+--- 57878535
+>>57875111
+Fuck there are some joyless faggots on the internet
+--- 57878614
+>>57875111
+--- 57879390
+>>57878489
+I'll hold off just until I get the island ready for visitors. I moved about an hour and a half north of the truck terminal. I'm planning on headed to the island again later this week to really start work on it. If you're willing to come up to visit the island I can pick you up in the canoe. There's a public boat launch and parking place. I could pick whoever up and we'd canoe over to the island. We could get really drunk on vodka and party cheeki breeki style. Out of all of the locations the island has the potential to be the most permanent. I want a nice log structure that will keep people out of the rain. then I'll start on sand bags, firing points, machine gun nests with grenade sumps. End of this summer we could have this island a real kompound
+--- 57879429
+here's the island. It's about a quarter mile long. once I have paths macheted out and the whole island surveyed. I'll know where the best place for the outpost will be
+--- 57879446
+>>57857834
+Why did you redact the site id? It would only be used by ATC internally.
+--- 57879469
+>>57857308 (OP)
+based and fun LARP, anon. Would read through again.

k/57858727.txt

@@ -180,3 +180,19 @@ Same as above, I've only used it for a few weeks before I replaced it with a UT
 Prices are negotiable. Can provide pictures upon request when I get home
 --- 57875350
 bump
+--- 57876896
+please dont let this thread die its one of the few actual threads about weapons up
+--- 57876939
+>>57876896
+Slava Ukraine. Each item sold here will be donated to zelinksi s personal account. Match me you nigger faggots.
+--- 57876963
+Who's in the south coast of MA???
+--- 57877114
+Interdasted in 16" basic ar uppers
+20 round mags too
+Have an idea for some stuff
+--- 57878388
+>>57866071
+lever without optic?
+--- 57878466
+WTT sig 551a1 for aug a3 + 1500

k/57858987.txt

@@ -718,3 +718,34 @@ Know you're gay right?
 --- 57875710
 >>57859028
 >My bike got stolen today...
+--- 57876764
+>>57871153
+Yes. Texas still has a law on the books saying horse theft is punishable by hanging. Car theft is in the spirit of that law.
+--- 57876848
+>>57864016
+Yes, niggers suck.
+--- 57876871
+should've brought a gun
+--- 57876884
+>>57859028
+>that's what insurance is for
+I hope I get the chance to kill a fucker who spouts this apathetic cuck shit.
+--- 57876928
+>>57872760
+this is not an uncommon sight for a pack of niggers to just ride around in a getaway car and just make feign attempts at stealing shit, sending one dumb fuck in to case the shit, to them it's a gamble that there might be a key in it or something worth stealing in the interior.
+we call any nigger who drives slow 'working for spot and steal' around here, because that's what they're doing, they're spotting and stealing shit.
+--- 57876938
+>>57876928
+>feign
+vain
+--- 57877593
+>>57858987 (OP)
+Ever since I saw Bean do it I always bring my steering wheel indoors. Once came out to smashed windows but nothing was stolen. Have since moved to New Zealand and its safe as fuck here
+--- 57877998
+>>57866579
+Wimmen conversing. Should be woman and sheboon conversing
+--- 57879306
+>>57866579
+that "woman" definitely has a Y chromosome thats underdeveloped
+--- 57879325
+for the love of god post a fucking self defense shooting

k/57861147.txt

@@ -745,3 +745,14 @@ lol, did they fix it?
 People here really need to read more of Murz's posts. They really show the shitfest that was the separatist guerrilla armies in this war. It's the Vietcong in 1968 all over again.
 --- 57875177
 Is ERA even effective? I get that it is meant to be a more weight-efficient way of providing additional protection to older vics, but there seem to be hardly any instances where even more modern ERA packs were able to successfully save a vic from an otherwise catastrophic hit.
+--- 57878417
+>>57875177
+>Is ERA even effective?
+its effective against single-charge warheads
+
+tandem-warheads defeat ERA, but they are much heavier and more expensive than regular warheads and dont have much benefit against non-ERA targets
+--- 57879633
+>>57872617
+Yes, the flashing will definitely be a problem in combat and your brilliant insight is the sign of profound understanding of that special illumination technology. 
+
+Similar beacons on the Hunley enabled Phoenician Coehorn mortar crews to spot it and other ISIL galleys several miles off the coast of Madagascar, crossing their T driving most into bunkers where frags did the rest.

k/57861708.txt

@@ -156,3 +156,27 @@ you guys don't know...
 >>57874320
 >those lanyards
 anon...
+--- 57877621
+>>57873751
+>No, I know enough about manufacturing and gun engineering to see that the Glock is a cheap POS, always was and that was its intent.
+I remember hearing that gaston glock was originally going to market them as budget handguns, but some clever marketer told him to price them the same as hammer fired metal guns so they would appear more "premium"
+--- 57878115
+>>57877621
+If you look at the damn thing compared to every other handgun of that time, it was obviously that era's equivalent of the Hi Point. Now every goddamn handgun is retro Hi Point quality and people think they're top quality...
+--- 57878400
+>the trigger is bad
+Literally skill issue
+>build quality of a hi point
+???
+>jams from limp wristing
+Correct, a problem that many (not all) polymer striker fired handguns share, and something to consider if you have a weak or compromised grip strength. Also note how many companies have made polymer striker fired glock clones since the development of the glock (basically all of them)
+>can't handle the controls
+Skill issue; genetics issue
+>their subcompacts are still huge
+Yes, glock needs to figure something out because companies making the micro 9's of the past 10 years are innovating and glock isn't.
+>I don't like the grip/style/recoil impulse/weight distribution
+Okay
+>unsupported chamber
+This comes from the exploding g22 and the other glocks chambered in 40 I guess. However, the chamber is indeed not fully supported. I own a g22 and also handload 40 and I still have both hands and a functioning g22 so ymmv I guess
+
+Nyet, pistol is fine.

k/57861718.txt

@@ -696,3 +696,7 @@ Guys seem to think it's a regular occurrence and it's just not.
 My ground floor has 3 contiguous living room areas, a dining room, a breakfast area, a florida room and kitchen in the same open area. From the door to the garage, just by the base of one of the stairs (one of three) to the far end by the bar is 95 feet, if you open that door and go through the inlaws suite the hallway, still in-line, goes to the pool deck door at 119 feet. 
 If you go back, into the garage, and look through the kitchen, across the family rooms, bar, inlaws suite and to the pool deck door, it's almost 140 feet, but that really isn't a realistic shot. I call it at 95 feet (30 yards). 
 If I shoot from the house into the pool house I could get a 60 yard indoor to indoor shot.
+--- 57877016
+>>57870121
+If you're using flitecontrol buckshot 30y is still a perfectly realistic shot with a shotgun.
+Though taking a shot at a range like that seems very ill advised, target identification wouldn't be ideal especially in the dark and shooting someone that far away might be a bit of a legal shitshow.

k/57861832.txt

@@ -164,3 +164,19 @@ The A3M1 has ample rail estate for a white light and whatever day optic you like
 --- 57876312
 >>57861832 (OP)
 eyyo
+--- 57877233
+>>57873193
+Yes, you should just get one now. Steyr has been teasing various AUG improvement packages for years and the only thing we've gotten out of it is the red FCG springs that nobody was anticipating
+--- 57877631
+>>57862977
+>>57863754
+>>57866483
+Hate to be this guy, but...
+--- 57877721
+>>57877631
+I'm convinced that the Australians adopted an Austrian rifle at least in part just to shitpost.
+--- 57878981
+Post more tactical bullpups. I think its neat how crowded everything looks compared to an AR
+--- 57879031
+>>57873778
+What, so the wrap is for heat, but above the wrap you reach in to fiddle with gas?

k/57862803.txt

@@ -290,3 +290,77 @@ They carry this but I don't think anyone at Walmart has realized it is a defensi
 I was hoping for a bolt or lever action. But does anyone even do that? I looked up people making .17hm2 builds of the Rugee 10/22 and got next to nothing.
 --- 57876654
 wonder if ruger will bring back the marlin m60
+--- 57876694
+>>57876628
+>But does anyone even do that? I looked up people making .17hm2 builds of the Rugee 10/22 and got next to nothing.
+there was a huge scandal involving 17hmr and pretty much every major manufacturer that resulted in all semiauto 17hrm guns being recalled and taken off the market.
+essentially they sold semiautos that would frequently have out of batteries because they were lazy and all the semiautos were 22mags designs with the barrels swapped out and no other changes. this caused issues.
+now there are a couple semiauto 17hmrs on the market but they were designed fairly recently(within the last 5 years) from the ground up as 17hmrs.
+--- 57876915
+>>57874549
+https://eabco.com/blog/ruger-1022-and-17-hm2-warnings/
+That's discontinued.
+--- 57876917
+>>57862803 (OP)
+I feel you on the Higgins, anon. This J.C. Higgins my grand dad bought in 1947. Belong to my dad, now mine, pass it down to one of my son's soon. CCI quiets out of it are so quiet, the trigger is amazing, very accurate.
+--- 57877132
+>>57876628
+Pretty sure Volquartizen at least had them. Buttler Creek Tactical Solutions, keep looking, why is this hard?
+--- 57877133
+My first rifle.
+Serial number/markings tell me it was made in 1963.
+--- 57877181
+Winchester Arms
+Model 150
+--- 57877193
+>>57877181
+Savage Arms
+Savage 24H
+.22LR/.410
+--- 57877198
+>>57877193
+Savage Arms
+Model 1914
+--- 57877206
+>>57877198
+High Standard
+Double Nine "Natchez"
+--- 57877677
+>>57877206
+This is nice.
+--- 57877685
+>>57877193
+And these are highly desired.
+--- 57878007
+>>57875020
+What's with the brass eagle?
+--- 57878013
+>>57878007
+Good question anon, I'd like to know too.
+--- 57878021
+>>57862803 (OP)
+very Kino
+--- 57878043
+>>57865622
+that looks sexy af. 
+
+something like steam punk esque cross with cowboy theme
+--- 57878100
+Where are my /clickclack/ friends at?
+--- 57878260
+>https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/252426/8375/ruger-american-predator-17-hm2-bolt-action-rifle-with-od-green-stock
+
+>SOLD OUT
+
+I wanna die.
+--- 57878270
+Please lord, please let me find some good little .17hm2 rifle somewhere around my town of Westbrook Maine. Amen.
+--- 57878280
+>>57878260
+looks nice i kinda want one now
+--- 57878322
+>>57878100
+Beautiful skins, what did you do with them?
+--- 57879483
+>>57878100
+Springfield/Stevens 87A? How is it? How is the bolt lock feature?

k/57862935.txt

@@ -84,3 +84,22 @@ And if your plan revolves around hunkering in place for the entirety of whatever
 --- 57874756
 >>57862961
 Real question, do you have $10k in your bank account?
+--- 57876761
+>>57863615
+>Taking out loans at all.
+Oooh this is some poor people shit
+--- 57876794
+>>57872166
+What if I have one of each for each eye?
+--- 57877053
+>>57876794
+based, but you'd probably still be better off with binos or panos and one or more COTIs
+--- 57877099
+>>57862935 (OP)
+Wouldn't you like to know, you poor piece of shit.
+--- 57877119
+>>57864503
+Rest in rip Alaskan laz0r man
+--- 57877122
+>>57866641
+Nigga what? Do you know how constants work? That there cloud makes my light slow.

k/57864208.txt

@@ -279,3 +279,12 @@ in my experience taurus has awful customer service. their phone queue lasts fore
 everything you posted is retarded. there have always been shitty cheap guns. iver johnson was the hi point of the 1920s. like that one autist who hates colt likes to point out, the most common handgun of the old west wasn't a colt or a s&w, it was shitty spur trigger pocket pistols. .25 acp fell out of common use because of saturday night special laws that specifically tried to ban all of the pot metal trash that was chambered in it.
 
 just remember that you get what you pay for and you will be fine. and don't listen to anyone telling you to buy turkshit.
+--- 57877746
+>>57864208 (OP)
+Do what I did, but the rough rider with a .22lr cylinder and get a box of shitty ammo for fun plinking along with a box of ratshot for when you actually have to use it. I've had one in my glovebox loaded with ratshot for almost two years now and the few times I've had to use it it was outstanding, I call it my road rage gun.
+>just noticeable enough by other drivers for them to chimp out because you shot their car
+>weak enough that you do next to no actual damage to the car, maybe chip the paint at best
+As far as actually shooting a nigger it's basically pepper spray on steroids, I can't recommend it enough
+--- 57877804
+>>57877746
+kek this post is great

k/57864436.txt

@@ -131,3 +131,18 @@ CAR Anti-Balakas
 --- 57876000
 >>57866992
 This is some Brotherhood of Nod shit
+--- 57877760
+>>57866852
+RETVRN
+--- 57878897
+>>57876000
+Plain black uniforms look fucking nice, I'm surprised this unit doesn't get more attention in threads like this
+--- 57879042
+>>57867427
+What would happen if I took off his ski mask? Would he surrender?
+--- 57879417
+>>57869698
+new thing? frog shirts are like 15 years old.
+--- 57879651
+>>57874701
+Are these DaftPunk ?

k/57864849.txt

@@ -236,3 +236,6 @@ Missiles as primary weapon
 Integrated drone scout(s)
 Multi-tracking autocannons to shoot down enemy drones
 Optionally manned
+--- 57876736
+>>57864849 (OP)
+Here's a picture of it. Those chinese people in the tank are our contracted overseas partner labor, ignore them. Now - this tank is still in development, OK technically it has been somewhat developed, but there are many vexatious and expensive issues to resolve. So, we're going to need a lot of money. And then some more to get a hold of some test examples, and more to modify them into limited low rate production. Which will be very expensive to set up. Also, we'll need many exemptions for those chinese people in the tank, who are essential, and very expensive too. Budget for that. There will have to be annual budget reviews this will be a difficult project.

k/57864918.txt

@@ -357,3 +357,73 @@ I only open carry when hunting. If I’m going about my business then concealed
 --- 57876636
 >>57875862
 In Florida you can only open carry when hunting, fishing or camping. So he has a fishing pole and open carries off the beach in Tampa Bay which is a major city in the US. It’s the open carry “loophole” for activists in Florida to expand open carry. Nobody really cares as you can see from the video. People didn’t run away from him or anything. It’s sorta annoying like all activism. We did just get permitless concealed carry which is fine. I like the Florida concealed carry permit because it’s recognized in over half of US states as being valid. That way you can travel and concealed carry if you choose. There’s also no “waiting period” for concealed carry permit holders.
+--- 57876785
+>>57876330
+Ok bro I'm sure the fast food employees will be really impressed by your sovereign citizen legal expertise
+--- 57876798
+>>57876636
+oh. i was gonna ask why would someone need a gun when fishing but then i remembered florida has crocodiles and stuff
+--- 57876861
+>>57876798
+Alligators * not crocodiles. But yeah, generally speaking a firearms is unnecessary for fishing.
+--- 57877302
+>>57871993
+Niggers aren't that smart
+--- 57877336
+>>57876861
+* also crocodiles
+--- 57877380
+>>57864918 (OP)
+Most of the dudes that do this are former Ron Paul dickriders turned MAGA sunshine patriots looking for attention and validation. It’s cringey
+--- 57877388
+>>57876330
+M8 you look like a try hard fag or a paranoid pussy walking around suburban America buying socks or whatever with a rifle on your back. Nobody ever looks at you bozos and thinks “thank god it’s a good guy with a gun” and if anything you’re just making it easier for active shooters by normalizing needlessly carrying weapons into places with lots of people. 
+
+And screeching about semantics doesn’t make you look like less of a try hard fag tbphwyf.
+--- 57877409
+>>57876251
+>"no umm ahksually it badass to be put in time out like a child in front of a large crowd"
+Clearly you have feelings for the retard in the video otherwise you wouldnt be so heated over this, just find him and tell him how you really feel anon, I want you to be happy.
+--- 57877418
+>>57873090
+tfw /k/ top bf why live
+--- 57877539
+>>57877336
+No, they are gators son. They ain’t no crocodile.
+--- 57877588
+>>57871993
+Chance of dying from a gunshot wound increases like 400% open carrying. Statistically you’re more likely to shoot yourself than prevent a crime.
+--- 57877600
+Open carrying guns is for pussies
+--- 57877637
+>>57871389
+Problem is the sorts who do open carry rifles
+I get your point, but realistically if what people see are at-risk weirdos doing this your idyllic vision will never come about
+--- 57877658
+>>57876276
+Especially because they have rifles slung over, not exactly the best for quick drawing
+Open carrying a rifle makes you more of a target because those that know who to target will go for retards like OP pic related since they won't be able to return fire in time
+--- 57877705
+>>57877409
+Hey that's cool and all but that's not what I asked
+thanks.
+--- 57877706
+>>57877409
+It's faggots like you that has lead to the passing of the NFA, Hughes Amendment, and any form of federal and state gun control legislation. I am sick of pretending like we shouldn't be in a modern wild west where everyone has a strap on them and in their car.
+--- 57877788
+>>57877388
+If you're not a "try-hard" when it comes to your rights then im sure you wouldn't mind losing some more of them i mean you wouldnt want to look cringe bro
+--- 57878046
+>>57877788
+>muh rights 
+Who gives a shit? Nobody is calling you a try hard fag for having rights bozo. You have the right to dress like a woman too. Why not also do that? Then you’re flexing your first and second rights and Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes and bunch of other are guaranteed to masturbate to pictures of you, which would be a cool thing to know maybe.
+
+You know it’s like the whole thing about “you’re not wrong you’re just an asshole” gnome sang? Society has standards and expectations and subverting those things just so you histrionicslly scream about how you’re not not allowed to do it, just makes you a bitch. Responsible gun ownership includes not using your ownership of a gun to act like a snively conflict-seeking cunt in public.
+
+I mean just from statistical safety and stuff, you are overwhelmingly increasing the chance of someone breaking into your house when you’re not home and stealing your guns. You’re just highlighting yourself as someone that owns the exact things that the kind of people that do burglary are looking for. You’re dramatically increasing the likelihood of being victimized in the long-run while also increasing the chances of dying or being injured from a gunshot wound, just to create cause to yell about rights or whatever. It’s not really all that rational when you get down to it. 
+
+ And again it almost always makes you look like a try hard fag or paranoid pussy.
+--- 57878234
+>>57878046
+>or paranoid pussy.
+funny from a guy too afraid of his house being burgled to ever be seen with a firearm

k/57865136.txt

@@ -144,3 +144,18 @@ Any mech made to actually do a job will be small, and won't stand upright. It wo
 --- 57875284
 >>57874922
 I legitimately can't tell if this is a joke or not
+--- 57876698
+We have the technology for VF-1s, could be pretty neat
+>>57872353
+Just a dressed up Destroid Tomahawk
+>>57873835
+Just a dressed up Glaug
+I hate Robotech
+--- 57876744
+>>57872353
+Ability to wield dual mech killers, as well as anti-light units while keeping a decent speed and good durability, I personally like the 6K version as I have found the machine guns are a bit redundant and increase the risk of ammo explosion.
+--- 57879618
+>>57876698
+Cope weeb
+--- 57879645
+Best you get is large exosuits.

k/57865406.txt

@@ -218,3 +218,15 @@ Hitler specificly rejected the idea of Pan-European anything. When presented wit
 --- 57874721
 >>57873039
 Read a book before embarrassing yourself again.
+--- 57876727
+>>57869685
+The only POWs the US was executing in large numbers were SS troops and that was only after Malmedy.
+--- 57878658
+>>57876727
+And even then the US troops still were rather lenient with the SS, allowing most to be sent to trial instead. The trials in question were mostly kangaroo courts held by very pissed off French and Dutch people but it’s far better than they deserved and got by the Soviets
+--- 57878785
+>>57870395
+Japan would be the worst of the worst, just think about it - because of the Army-Navy conflict, they would both have their completely separate bot farms, which would probably go to full-on war with each other after Midway, and all that with the amount of vitriol, racism, face-saving and cope that /pol/ could not even imagine. Quite literally levels of shitposting and retardation no one thought possible.
+--- 57878921
+>>57865660
+>no ordenstaat burgund

k/57865565.txt

@@ -54,3 +54,22 @@ The greatest story never told
 --- 57875747
 >>57870377
 Kino
+--- 57877115
+>>57866518
+I have a trans friend and this is the first time i've seen such a high consentration of homosexuality. God damn that tranny makes you look straight pal
+--- 57877488
+>>57865565 (OP)
+Anything from the History Channel in the 90s.
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSbTt58nodk [Embed]
+https://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x67rgx
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuiBXxJwDvs [Embed]
+--- 57877607
+>>57866518
+Based DragonBVLL naming the moesissy
+--- 57878093
+>>57870066
+You shoot the first to stop the convoy. Then you shoot the last to stop the retreat. If you shoot the last one first, then the other vehicles can just accelerate and maneuver rather than having to come to a stop and change into reverse gear.
+--- 57879654
+>>57866518
+based

k/57865860.txt

@@ -235,3 +235,59 @@ When did this happen?
 --- 57876239
 >>57874028
 Probably not. They get cheap/free slave labor from the norks. But a crazy nuke-wielding dictator could also be a liability.
+--- 57877039
+>>57866781
+Kind of astonishing he was an ex-Japanese soldier, and made it into office. A shame what happened to him and his wife.
+--- 57877128
+South Korea no question. But what's also no question is that Seoul would basically cease to exist along with most large cities along the DMZ. The Norks have an absolute fuckton of artillery that's pre-sighted for Seoul and the second a war started Seoul would be gone. 
+
+North Korea would probably get 25-30% into the country before the South Koreans could mobilize and repel the invasion. The only question is if South Korea would cross the DMZ into North Korea as I don't think South Korea actually WANTS control of North Korea. Literally no-one would want North Korean land, it's shit. They have no economic stuff to grab, no fertile land, an impoverished population that would require an unbelievable amount of money to prop up... yeah, I just couldn't see South Korea wanting to grab North Korean land in the counterattack
+--- 57877182
+>>57877128
+>But what's also no question is that Seoul would basically cease to exist along with most large cities along the DMZ. The Norks have an absolute fuckton of artillery that's pre-sighted for Seoul and the second a war started Seoul would be gone.
+that capability is overestimated
+ability to destroy seoul degrades over time as the guns are destroyed by counter-fire
+and the more you hammer a city the less each succeeding barrage does as the citizens evacuate or move to shelters
+
+while the barrage would likely cause heavy damage, it would never come close to actually destroying the city as the south isnt going to just allow them to pummel their capital over the course of several weeks
+it also requires that north korea has adequate heavy artillery shells and missiles for long range for a sustained barrage, it would take literally WW2-levels of munitions expenditure to reduce a city to rubble
+--- 57877256
+>>57865860 (OP)
+No matter how indoctrinated or totally devoted the NK are to their god-emperor, the overwhelming destruction of their logistics will erode the will to walk before casualties erode their will to fight. NK doesn't have strategic fuel reserves worth mentioning and their ability to import it would depend entirely on trucks. Within a couple of months, logistics would be reduced to horse and cart. Plenty of ideologically and religiously motivated men will fight to the death in gruelling mud-pits before surrender, but starving men can only walk so far in full kit before total exhaustion either kills them or kills their spirit. I also imagine total and suicidal belief in the state is not the mindset of the majority, and how many miles will your average infantryman walk with nothing but ricewater to drink, before the temptation of surrender and 3 square meals in a POW camp overwhelms their sense of patriotic duty?
+--- 57877347
+>>57877039
+>A shame what happened to him and his wife
+Was there an actual reason behind his friend killing him or was it just a spurg out?
+--- 57877645
+Taking the US out of the equation will forever be retarded. We keep military bases there for a reason and South Korea is a US commonwealth in all but name
+--- 57877701
+>>57865860 (OP)
+>Who would come out on top
+South Korea comes out on top on a pile ashes. Just look at Ukraine and the devastation, and now imagine that but 100x worse
+--- 57877868
+>>57877128
+I doubt the NK invasion force will get past a few km after the DMZ before getting completely destroyed by corps-level and army-level artillery and then mopped up by the SK 7th armored corps.
+
+As for going into NK itself, that is actually a given because SK battleplans all assume advance into the North as well as formation of several division-size "stabilization units" that will perform counter-insurgency and military goverment duties. 
+
+I personally envision a situation in which after the collapse of the North it is integrated into the South in the span of some 30 years, the majority of which will have martial law and military government imposed in the liberated areas in the North. No sane person would or should believe that reunification would happen overnight and refugees will be allowed to cross into the South by the thousands. Strict restrictions on travel will be enforced for likely more than a decade.
+--- 57878324
+>>57869204
+Anon this is artillery range with a RAP, they can't hit Seoul city center, and can barely hit the outskirts. The Panggae bulge won't last long in a war either. The threat isn't conventional shells, its rocket artillery, even simple systems like Grad.
+--- 57878363
+>>57874028
+They want diehard loyalty, or at least slavish compliance, not a hermit empire that openly treats war with US and it's allies like a joke.
+--- 57879134
+>>57878324
+Millions of people live inside that artillery range. It doesn't have to hit city center. Thousands will die if they just shoot randomly for a few minutes.
+--- 57879229
+>>57878324
+Seoul metropolitan area is massive anon... tens of millions of people live in it, so it's not feasible for the SK government to just say, "lol fuck it."
+I mean, SK would curb stomp NK even with nukes in play, and with minimal casualties too... though realistically I don't think nuclear weapons would get used in a Korean war and I don't think the US or China would stay out of it... these geopolitical realities (NK nukes ensure MAD to an extent, SK military is undefeatable for the NK military even without USA, intervention by USA/China is 100% guaranteed) prevent a war from happening in the region. Peaceful reunification is more likely, even with all the massive geopolitical hurdles that entails.
+--- 57879355
+>>57866197
+I have a hard time imagining even WWII levels of soviet industry making stuff that rough looking. How many layers of paint and varnish over accumulated grime from sitting in storage between parades does it take for that?
+--- 57879428
+Well, this is a cripple-fight which would never actually happen in the region’s current state because the default aggressor, NK is an impoverished shithole which probably doesn’t operate a meaningful military without massive gibs from China or the now-defunct Soviets. The rush to develop a nuke is your first clue that NK is in no shape to defend themselves let alone attack anyone. It’s just not possible for them.
+
+If we go with SK as the aggressor— it’d be hard to imagine how they straighten up and become a serious military force capable of performing an invasion. They have the national resources to attempt it but not the military organization, doctrine, experience or training. That’s why I called this a cripple fight. Without outside assistance just forget about NK outright. SK might be able to do something but only after a very intensive improvement session.

k/57865882.txt

@@ -435,3 +435,156 @@ I've seen plenty of liveleak videos of soldiers killing stray dogs in iraq, but
 --- 57876631
 >>57876587
 Instructor. The method of quick drawing for a very close range encounter is a quick draw and fire with one hand while the gun is still low closer to the waist. That's how it's taught and it's taught that way because it's quickest and works. Adopting a whole new two handed method that's not very natural of a position, just because it looked cool in a movie, is not a good idea. I'm not the only one who criticizes CAR and your bias towards it is probably because it looks cool, and you don't like what I say because I'm an autist. But what works better works better.
+--- 57876673
+>>57876631
+D.U.S.T. guy, is that you?
+--- 57876757
+>>57876595
+When I was a CO we only trained on revolvers and shotguns.
+Specifically the S&W Model 10 and the Remington 870 Wingmaster.
+As a side note, revolvers and shotguns are both fine choices.
+People overthink very simple shit with a million mental scenarios that will probably never happen.
+--- 57877489
+>>57867207
+>First shell is birdshot.
+Gay. Anyone doing this deserves to be raped
+--- 57877728
+>>57871864
+This but that’s the boring answer
+--- 57877745
+>>57875683
+Detailed breakdown on the concept here
+https://www.primerpeak.com/no-fail-shot-drill/amp/
+Tl;dr you have exactly one shot to make on a small target at a distance and only a small window to make the shot. Bad guy has your waifu body pillow hostage and if you miss, she dies. 
+>>57875678
+>You can and should be able to do that with a red dot alone
+Yes, within a reasonable distance. But the further the distance or the smaller your target, the more the magnification comes in clutch. 
+As for PID, at 150 yards, is that guy aiming at you, or is he lifting up some debris or digging a hole, or any number of things? If you're wrong, you just murdered someone or got yourself killed. If he isn't wearing a uniform, is he friendly, enemy, or noncombatant? You have two seconds to decide
+--- 57877793
+>>57872196
+Thanks dude. This seems to back up what I’ve always thought and said. There are way too many variables, too many similar items, and parts wear (at least at a microscopic level) every single time it’s shot or even cycled.
+--- 57877803
+>>57867342
+No but if you like it do it. Just make sure it’s classy/cool and not cringy
+--- 57877811
+>>57877793
+Yeah, pretty much. It can narrow the odds, but it's presented instead as an absolute fact.
+--- 57877815
+>>57874722
+Literally none of those go through rifle plates, or all of them do if you somehow have tungsten AP. If you meant soft armor, all centerfire rifles will punch through like it’s not there
+--- 57877826
+>>57874923
+>but the results speak for themselves
+Yeah rifles are better. That’s why every group of professional room clearers use rifles
+--- 57877848
+>>57874722
+Why is every retard's idea on how to defeat armor always a bigger and slower bullet? And you even jump straight at the ones rifle armor is literally rated to stop. No, your .308 isn't going to penetrate any armor better than 5.56. In most cases, it's worse.
+--- 57877858
+pick one. Literally, just pick one. Any of them will do. just pick one. Don't believe me? Try this cool trick that will prove all three will work:
+Step 1: Find a shotgun, pistol and rifle
+Step 2: Find appropriate ammunition for all of them
+Step 3: load all three firearms
+Step 4: pick one of the loaded firearms and shoot yourself in the foot
+Step 5: pick up a different firearm and shoot yourself in the other foot
+Step 6: Pick up the last firearm and shoot yourself in the hand
+Now, which one of these gunshots hurt the most? The answer: You just got shot three times, retard. Just pick one.
+--- 57877879
+>>57877745
+>As for PID, at 150 yards
+Anon, if you're raising your gun and pointing it at people to see if they need to be shot in the civilian world, you're at best going to jail and at worst getting shot by someone who isn't going to be pointing their gun at you from out in the open.
+--- 57877886
+>>57875044
+Yes, but only if you march around your house like a parade while searching for the intruder. Also, only if you fire the gun with one hand and while standing completely straight. You also have to spend 10 minutes getting in to an officer's uniform. It doesn't matter which country or period.
+--- 57877919
+>>57876415
+>Police win 98% of their gunfights
+
+yeah, because dogs don't shoot back
+--- 57877981
+>>57874991
+>”Tally ho lads”
+
+For this version of copypasta, please change this to ”over the top, lads”
+--- 57878116
+>>57865882 (OP)
+You can always use a comprimise like a 9mm AK, or a 10mm Highpoint. The 10mm with extra velocity would take out anyone
+--- 57878169
+>>57877826
+In a group rifles can work, there's different tactics involved in that, and rifles/armor/big teams are only used for higher threat levels. Different tactics for group clearing in agencies vs individual clearing for civilians. For high threat rifle clearing you have to move faster like a train and put yourself in harms way more completely, that's why they wear heavy armor as well. You gonna call up your buddies to crawl through your window and run a SWAT train through your house when you hear a bump in the night? It's funny because oftentimes the front man has a handgun even if he doesn't have a shield lmao.
+--- 57878774
+>>57866326
+>If you were robbing someone's home, which weapon would you rather be shot with?
+
+A .22lr pistol, birdshot from a shotgun, pistol pellot shot, .25/.32 acp, anything weaker than .380 acp preferably. Above that, a handgun of any caliber that isn't super powerful like 10mm or magnum rounds.
+
+As for rifle vs shotgun, that's a tough one, I guess I hope they are aiming a pump action shotgun at me because it's easy to lose, there's a lot of recoil, and the owner may have mistakenly loaded it with target shot or birdshot. As for the rifle, you know its gonna be loaded with lethal stuff. So basically I would hope the home owner wouldn't have an AR or an AK if I were a dirty criminal.
+
+ Anyway this is a fun thought experiment there because I basically answered my own question. Magnum rounds and rifle rounds are probably the most effective against home invaders and leaves out error like having target rounds in the shotgun accidentally. .
+--- 57878840
+>>57876415
+Most of those “gunfights” are just six cops magdumping into the perp and the hostage and the fedex guy on the other side of the road
+Hope you’re defunded so we can go back to mob justice and lynching like CHAZ
+--- 57878852
+>>57877745
+> Bad guy has your waifu body pillow hostage and if you miss, she dies. 
+I shoot the whore first for letting another man sully her with his touch
+--- 57878894
+>>57878774
+I feel like only looking at it from the criminal's point of view means that you don't consider important things like overpentration where magnum pistol rounds are worse then a super lightweight 5.56 loading that will fragment on collision with the first barrier.
+--- 57878907
+>>57875083
+I’ve already modded mine so throwing on a silencer is basically it’s destiny
+--- 57878983
+>>57866589
+Kyle Rittenhouse was only halfway there.
+--- 57879008
+>>57878894
+>magnum pistol rounds are worse then a super lightweight 5.56 loading that will fragment on collision with the first barrier.
+
+Is this true or bullshit? Anyone have a video showing this happening?
+--- 57879050
+Shotguns are unmatched in shot to shot power and any long gun is easy to aim in cq. I think an ar might be "better" and its what i have but I wouldn't feel undergunned at all with a sturdy pump and a box of buckshot that I have practiced with
+--- 57879101
+>>57865882 (OP)
+i'm paranoid of owning something super lethal in my home because i'm paranoid of someone using it on me or doing a misfire with it, ricochets, etc. Most lethal gun I chose to own is the FN 5.7 (because it's like having a rifle in your hands).
+--- 57879122
+>>57879008
+You can make a bullet from a magnum pistol penetrate 15" or 80" in flesh. Hollowpoints actually penetrate less when driven to faster velocities because of faster/larger/more consistent expansion (not always, but often) and for a given bullet weight, magnums push it faster. Basic bitch 556 usually breaks apart quickly when it hits something but rounds with deeper penetration also exist
+--- 57879133
+>>57879122
+>but rounds with deeper penetration also exist
+
+I was always fascinated with the metal penetarating 5.56 round but the thought of using that in a home defense or personal defense situation is terrifying because we have no idea where that bullet's final destination is gonna be at.
+--- 57879170
+>>57879050
+Buckshot is terrifying for sure but I would try my best to zigzag out of your living room door. At least get a semi-auto
+--- 57879244
+>>57879101
+Isn’t that basically just a glorified Tokarev?
+--- 57879316
+>/k/: 9mm is good enough if you shoot someone 3 times with 9mm it will kill them just as dead as shooting them once with 45
+>also /k/: you need a shotgun because putting 4 rounds of .223 in a guy might not be enough to kill him
+--- 57879344
+>>57879244
+it would make more sense to call it the updated modern tokarev pistol, can carry 20 rounds, etc.
+--- 57879423
+>>57878840
+That's one situation ans the whole situation was a fuck. Blame the nigger who caused it not the cops who struggled to solve the horrific situation he caused. I went rogue after 2020 so idc. You're not going to like guerilla justice. Have fun getting your hands chopped off for stealing nigger. We protected criminals from street justice more than anything else.
+--- 57879460
+>>57879244
+Not even close, it's a hot .22 that can't penetrate past 11" of gelatin. Better hope the dude doesn't hide behind a couch, table, drywall, etc because it deflects like shit through light barriers. Tokarev gets through soft armor because it's big and beastly, 5.7 does it because it's light and zippy. But being light makes it pretty shit for most defensive handgun purposes.
+--- 57879510
+>>57879460
+>this bad boy with a 55rd drum blocks your path.
+--- 57879521
+>>57866472
+It's alright little timmy, you can go to bed now.
+--- 57879625
+>>57879510
+>this bad boy blocks your bullets path
+
+It will never be a duty round, dealwithit.
+--- 57879656
+>>57879510
+>55 round drum
+Why not just go with a P90 if you want capacity so bad that you'd consider bulky drums?

k/57866006.txt

@@ -903,3 +903,382 @@ Sent them to analysis labs, turns out there's SULFURIC ACID CONDENSATION from ho
 Too bad I didnt manage to coax where the customer site is, to add to my "never-go-there" list. Most likely some third world hellhole though.
 
 Rackmount stuff looks tough but they're actually pretty fragile, all that metal chassis is just to support the things in there and EMI protection. I'd say your regular toyota ECU is actually more robust given that there's millions of them running in hazardous environment and you don't hear about them killing themselves in droves.
+--- 57876676
+>>57876640
+>Sulfuric acid
+>CONDENSATE
+WHAT THE FUCK. I can buy it if we're talking about a third world shit hole chemical plant where they're getting some leakiness into the air system but that should start eating everything else up in the facility at that point. If it got so bad the air is saturated like that...
+
+I know car ECUs are really overbuilt. They have their own thing about automotive standards and those things are potted, have big ass tracks and everything else. I once did some repairs on a late 90s car where everything is effectively underneath a gel for one of the modules since the solder cracked. What I meant was that rackmount servers are going to be at least a bit better than consumer electronics in that the better enterprise stuff tends to have more reliability engineering.
+--- 57876784
+>>57869217
+This but we've got enough Abrams and no M60s not guarding VFWs. Even our display tanks are more modern than vatshit. 
+
+My balls ache to see them do what they were born for. The Abrams going to Ukraine likely slew Baathist NeoStalinists in Desert Storm but they deserve to taste the real deal.
+--- 57876810
+>>57874599
+DoD images not classified are public domain. So are TMs etc which have plenty of use (like the rigging TM) in civilian life.
+--- 57876821
+>>57876275
+You'll love some of the horror stories on the gCaptain website. I believe you without reservation.
+--- 57876872
+>>57874230
+it was once a decent tank, way back in the 1960s where even a crappy 2-plane stabilizer and 200m passive NV was better than the neither most israeli cents and M60A1s got
+
+though not good enough to actually win the war, they were able to at least achieve local firepower superiority since the 115mm smoothbore outranged 105mm with APDS by a noticeable degree
+--- 57877190
+>>57876583
+I was flightline (F-16 A/B/C/D/CJ as engine troop and crew chief, Phantom and Bronco comm/nav before then) so the backshop guys would know more about MTBF numbers though I did many inspections. Fighter turbines are stressed but on modern US aircraft (especially because of modern digital electronic fuel controls providing precise fuel management and temperature control) they burn cleaner than older engines and are pretty low-hassle. After a periodic borescope inspection shows wear beyond limits or the engine reaches designated time change hours its replaced and overhauled at base engine shop or if deployed flown back to one. 
+
+Repair criteria can change when spares are in short supply. Conservative hot section wear limits could be increased so engines require more frequent inspection (cheap) and more frequent overhaul (tedious) due to lack of zero time parts. Overhaul time is not really a drop dead limit but one chosen as a safe compromise. Russian failure to assert air dominance tells me their sortie rates suck and since even a small number of pilots can fly many sorties that tells me they have equipment constraints changing overhaul criteria won't fix. Aviation is a far more professional, attentive environment than ground vehicles endure. Military ground vehicle users beat the shit out of them. Unmotivated conscripts whose CO sold off the oil, grease and anything else bolted down would be hard on turbines. Piston diesels with simple mechanical fuel controls can endure all sorts of abuse.
+--- 57877202
+>>57876676
+Ok maybe condensation is not the right word. Basically the air is so bad that there's a bunch of chemistry stuf happening in the solder joints, and the only word I remember is sulfuric acid.
+Yes I have the same reaction as you.
+--- 57877209
+>>57877190
+continued 
+Early turbines (T-80U engines of course included) have hydro-mechanical or mechanical (I've not fondled that engine) fuel controls which are less precise. You could easily stall or flame out early aircraft turbines by snapping the throttle too quickly. (Ground support turbine generators are governed and the user has no throttle control not needing one.) Since Russia planned to retire T-80s by 2015 due to maintenance I suspect it was easy to overtemp hot sections, maybe overspeed them but a governor is pretty simple, and that they may have had other issues with high-speed rotating parts in the gearbox or accessory drives.
+
+I'd like to see mechanics who worked on those or anything else Soviet post to learn from them. The old Syrian breds before /pol/ turned to shit were pretty cool. I don't care if someone wants to kill me if they'll have a civil conversation, even if that's about how to kill me. 
+
+https://crib-blog.blogspot.com/2020/12/gtd-1000-gtd-1000tf-gtd-1250-gas.html
+
+is an old design so the later ones should be sorted but online sources are too general to learn useful details.
+--- 57877295
+>>57877190
+>>57877209
+So you're saying effectively FADEC has a huge role in improving engine life? I'm surprised the Russians never really figured that out and ended up with the same issues as early F-16s where the pilots would effectively go from idle to mil or AB back to idle again and effectively kill turbine life.
+
+Do you think materials science is also a big component for turbine life when it comes to US vs Soviet and Russian turbines? Reportedly China has been working on producing monocrystal blades and they've supposedly moved into production but I haven't heard much about Russian progression in that regard.
+--- 57877328
+>>57876640
+Non-ruggedized PC parts with non-potted components in an unsealed case that's air-cooled are forcibly subjected to atmosphere. In highly polluted areas "acid humidity" is also "acid condensation". 
+The Ph of bug air must be horrific to damage computer parts. 
+
+I wrench cars and piddle with flashing GM cumpyooters (LS Droid etc lets you flash via the OBD port) since there are now free software options and if PCs were built like those they'd last far longer, being sealed and having gasketed connectors.
+--- 57877338
+>>57877202
+I would have lost my shit if I was staring at a server board and was told that the solder joints are all fucked up because microscopic droplets of sulfuric acid was forming on them and eating them away. "Corrosive air" yeah I've seen computers get eaten alive from salty coastal air because they're left by an open window.
+
+>>57877328
+>acid humidity
+That explains it, so it kind of has the same suck as oceanic salty fog.
+--- 57877540
+>>57877295
+>So you're saying effectively FADEC has a huge role in improving engine life?
+
+Fuck yes and my Pratt and GE tech reps (more Airmen should visit those guys, they're goldmines of info and AF history typically being retired SNCO engine troops) were my source. 
+
+I monitored FTIT, RPM etc on ground runs of course but those runs were mostly boring.
+
+Most entertaining DEEC fail I saw on a Pratt F100 was when I stood ground for my bro and it hot-started. (Unrecoverable increasing temp, decaying RPM for those not familiar.) The turbine wheels glowed BRIGHT orange to the tips of the blades before he got it shut down. That was an immediate engine pull for back shop to fix. 
+
+When aircraft engines have problems like that they go to test cell after repair (unless necessity made using an aircraft the only choice) since parts access is easier and if something's fucked it's much less work. GE engine (I preferred working on those because they don't have Pratt & Whitney braided wiring harnesses to prick muh fingers) at the AC Guard Hush House test cell since the other vids are silly:
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj4w7i-TqsE [Embed]
+--- 57877603
+>>57877338
+>That explains it, so it kind of has the same suck as oceanic salty fog.
+
+Salt water is the universal alkahest of lore. Shaw retrieved an F-16 out of the Charleson pluff mud and the gearbox along with anything magnesium had holes the size of quarter through where the paint on the casting was scratched. It was only immersed for a couple of weeks. I'm very glad I didn't go Navy to lead a life of corrosion control. Even just flying over the ocean at X height (whatev's in the Dash 1, I wasn't a pilot) requires a clear water rinse afterward.
+--- 57877610
+>>57877540
+>FADEC
+Anon can you please help me wrap my brain around this:
+>Initially, the Mean Time Between Overhaul (MTBO) of the engine was only 100 hours, short of the required 300 hours. Later series incrementally improved the MTBO figure to 500 hours while service life was assigned as 1,500 hours. Further improved variants, such as the AL-31F Series 42, increased the MTBO to 1,000 hours with a full-life of 2,000 hours.[2]
+The Saturns have MTBOs worse than the F-4's J79s. I can't even begin to comprehend that.
+--- 57877671
+>>57877540
+>FADEC craps its pants and turbine almost goes into unrecoverable territory
+I can only imagine pucker from watching the EGT shoot past max safe limits. I'm guessing a lot of that F100 had to get tossed because of overtemp on those parts renders them unsafe for use without inspection?
+
+>>57877603
+>Navy
+Every day an eternal war against corrosion
+--- 57877696
+>>57877295
+Engine engineer here, the evolution of FADEC in the past few decades has been a huge factor in improved engine performance. Like maintainer-anon said we went from hydro-mechanical / mechanical systems to almost full digital if not full digital systems. We've also got a fuckton more sensors in the engine. To some extent this was actually a development from the commercial side, due to airlines requiring more than just "remove and inspect the turbine every X flight hours". A lot of the maintenance can be done only when required, which allows time between inspections to be extended a lot longer.
+Regarding materials, it's a huge thing. AFAIK Ruskies have monocrystal blades but they haven't had them for very long and China is still in its infancy in terms of developing them and using them. They're huge in terms of improving turbine life as one of the major factors is material creep, that is the tendency for materials to permanently deform at high temperatures under constant load. The creep rate is a major barrier to extending turbine life as those clearances between the blade and casing are critical and rub gets worse as the blades wear (contact of blade with the casing, yes that's the term used in industry). The US has since moved on from mono-crystal blades however, and into ceramic-ceramic composites, most commonly SiC fiber reinforced SiC, which is an order of magnitude better in terms of creep rates compared to superalloys.
+
+Just as a side note, all of what I said is unclassified and openly available information. GE has been bragging about their SiC-SiC CMC for years now.
+--- 57877770
+>>57877696
+Thanks for replying anon. I always wondered why there's such a huge disparity when it comes to Soviet and post-Soviet turbine life in fighters. What knowledge I have is effectively that the Soviets while having some exotic alloys always lagged behind in the actual minutia of implementation regarding production at scale for things like monocrystaline blades or blisks along with lacking the amount/volume of Western machining equipment which in itself became a scandal when some machines or machine controls went to the USSR. What I never got is why the growth rate on turbine life and maintenance periods sucked balls so much after 2000+ because it seemed to lag behind even Vietnam era turbines.
+
+So it wouldn't be wrong to say that Soviet and present day Russian turbines are closer to like a car engine that doesn't have knock sensors and a rudimentary acoustic knock sensor on the block while the latest US turbines are like car engines that can measure knock among other things from using the spark plugs via cylinder ionization? Tons more sensor data means a lot more fidelity on the conditions inside the engine so they can push them to the very limit for output but not push engine life because whatever needs to be tweaked at that moment in operation is done by the computer to preserve turbine life. Meanwhile the metaphorical Russian engine wouldn't sense that the spark plug is running cold and fouling so it would never lean back the mixture whereas the metaphorical US engine would sense those conditions immediately and correct the mixture while under power demand.
+
+>China and monocrystals
+Huh interesting. There was some chest thumping about how they were putting monocrystal blades into production. Watching Chinese turbine development over the past 20 years made it seem like they were very slow but there was a lot of noise in the past 5-ish years about how they finally were going to toss the Saturns and go with their homegrown solution.
+--- 57877784
+>>57877610
+Since Russia had plenty of US engines to play with over the years that leaves inability to produce the materials and perhaps some parts, not perform common manufacturing operations. They had alloy samples (the parts) but that doesn't tell you how to produce that alloy or manufacturer the part. Bearings are critical to engine time between teardowns so I expect theirs sucked. There isn't much left beside those factors.
+
+Current Russian inability to produce railcar cassette bearings in volume tells me they grossly neglected manufacturing for a very long time. Of course they had foreign co's supply them like SKF but cassette bearings are not exotic. The import dependence tells me Russian plants assembled the bearings but probably didn't manufacture the parts.
+
+J-79s weren't perfect but were tough. When I was at Moody we had two Dobbins Phantoms land after the wingman hit leads horizontal stab with his radome. The radome disintegrated but the parts only forced shutdown of one engine and they landed safely. The stab and engine were replaced with no particular fuss. Many pilots were SEA vets and trained hard. We had one break engine mounts in an over-G but the doors held them in place. J-79s were also filthy (crude fuel controls meant soot and lots of it) but I was a Comm/Nav troop at the time so not my problem. We had one engine troop who just did bay inspections (highly detailed so that made sense) who began every shift in a fresh white bunny suit coverall which was black by shift change.
+--- 57877809
+>>57877696
+>China and monocrystals
+I read their earlier turbines were struggling in the lifespan department even when compared to the strugglefest that is the Saturn AL-31. Once they (supposedly) improved lifespans they started deploying more of their domestic turbines in the J-20s they're flying around occasionally.
+
+>Russia and monocrystals
+Shiiieeettt that's probably how they got those big jumps for their MTBOs huh? I remember almost spitting out dinner when I was reading about 60s-70s era Soviet turbines and how they had lifespans of 50-100 hours. When I asked a friend who had family connections in aerospace if that was bullshit or not he pretty much told me that the Soviets considered those economically nonviable for overhaul and would scrap them. I fucking lost it so hard because that would have meant that the Soviets were operating with effectively Jumo 004 levels of turbine life.
+--- 57877832
+>>57877671
+The turbine blades would likely have been scrap, dunno how hot the T-wheel can get. Once dat cooling air blanket fades shit gets warm.
+
+For those not familiar turbines are cooled by blankets of air from the compressor section. There are many videos on that stuff. Air flows through many parts including blades and stator vanes which guide the airflow. 
+
+https://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3111&p=118171
+--- 57877836
+>>57877784
+>J-79s
+Yeah what got me about them was that they were bickering about the lifespan on those in the 5,000-20,000 hour range when it came to having to answer to Congress in some random report about improving the lifecycle because budgets and shit. When I saw that and saw that Soviet turbines were operating for 50-250 hours it blew my mind harder than a T-80 packed full of ammo could blow up if it had an uncontained failure of a hot blade being thrown into the autoloader. It also made a lot of sense why Soviet aviation was orders of magnitude smaller than American aviation.
+--- 57877864
+>>57877784
+>Russian railcar bearings
+Something I heard was that "effectively" the Soviet rail system was manufactured on early 1900s US machinery imported into Tsarist Russia and also with Lend Lease era machinery that was effectively crated over factories. I wonder if part of their issues with being fucked for ball bearings comes from the machinery they were using finally bit the dust and they couldn't keep repairing it or they let it fall into disrepair because of their sudden access to the global market for things like cartridge bearings. Kind of reminds me of the 2nd Schweinfurt raid in how strategic ball bearings are.
+--- 57877887
+>>57877770
+Eh, no it's not so much like that. The FADEC stuff is pretty much universal, I'm pretty sure everyone has full digital FADEC at this point. What the Russians have is an entirely different viewpoint, where they don't really care about engine life, that's their whole doctrine, IIRC they have less margins in their Tt4 (turbine inlet total temperature), but I'm not an intelligence analyst so I'm not intimately familiar with that stuff, which is why I'm OK to post about it kek. Mind you I do think their engine health monitoring is likely much worse than western systems and that Western FADECs are much more capable, I just don't think there's that level of difference.
+Regarding China, they bluster that they are, and I do think they've probably got small scale production going on but they've still only barely started applying this technology, which at this point is 4 decades old.
+>>57877809
+I mean, it's not hard to actually get an increase in MTBOs for Russian engines, they're just running them harder and don't give a fuck about their MTBOs. That being said, yes, the monocrystals probably helped a lot.
+
+I should also say, materials are a limiting factor, but equally important is active cooling. In this the US and the west (because RR also has some good stuff) is almost certainly ahead. It's a major factor, the biggest jump is obviously from uncooled to cooled blades but there's still a lot of performance that can get squeezed out by improving cooling.
+--- 57877896
+>>57877696
+While it's ancient I'm looking for a copy/pic of either the GE GEK or other tech data page showing magnesium sulfate as hot section anti-seize since while I saw it (and Support section stocked Milk of Magnesia) I never saved proof and some still doubt it was used or how well it worked (fine).
+Works a treat on exhaust manifold studs for piston engines and of course on spark plugs too.
+
+Any leads? I read Snecma now Safran also used it.
+--- 57877904
+>>57877784
+>Reverse engineering
+I'm kind of seeing this with how China has a shit ton of access to dual use technologies but they're struggling with putting some of it into production. Beyond the stuff like how they were struggling to make the ball bearing for ball point pens smooth it seems like there's a lot of cultural crap from what I've heard that prevents them from successfully duplicating things unless they're able to get their hands on significant parts of the production process directly (via joint plants) or indirectly (outright stealing process info). The Soviets would have had a lot more political bullshit in their way in contrast I'd think but if they're that fucked on bearings that'd be mindblowing. Probably will have to do some research on what little info exists about the Soviet ball bearing industry. Tho, Russia should have had (pre sanctions) access to the global market in regards to bearings for their turbines. I still can't get over how the AL-31s had less lifespan than a 'nam era J-79.
+--- 57877913
+>>57877896
+Sorry anon, I assume you're the maintainer guy? I'd contact the GE guys you know and see if you're in the clear for that kind of stuff. I can't talk broad generalities and stuff that appears on promotional videos but anything else I'm clamming up on.
+--- 57877925
+>>57877913
+*I can talk
+--- 57877971
+>>57877887
+>FADEC differences
+Alright. Part of that was speculative on my part given the relative instrumentation differences on the N1 vs Saturn V for when they were doing test flights. It was pretty apparent Soviet capabilities sucked ass in terms of sensor density and diversity of sensors that they could cram onto the N1 in contrast to the Saturn V. I kind of gave that leeway too given the N1 was kind of less of an absolute flagship tier program for them in the end especially given the failures.
+
+>cooled blades
+I thought this became a norm sometime around the mid-late 70s-80s? From my understanding (all public knowledge plus talking to the aerospace family connected friend in the past) all the internal channel stuff where they route air from the cooler parts through the blade and out the holes to form the laminar film of air has been standard and mainstream for a looooooooooong time for even civil aviation where the turbines aren't hammered like they are in a fighter. Whereas various ceramic thermal coatings were more like a post-90s thing when it comes to them being mainstream.
+
+>In this the US and the west (because RR also has some good stuff) is almost certainly ahead
+Correct me if I'm wrong but the top end of the turbine market is more or less dominated by P&W, GE and RR then there's like a huge gap afterwards to whoever 4th up correct? Not really familiar with the continental companies for whoever is likely to take that spot.
+--- 57877983
+>>57877832
+>tfw haven't seen TEG post on F-16.net for years
+--- 57878039
+>>57877913
+I'm retired as are they or I'd have stopped by the office. MoM anti-seize is older than dirt today as more advanced compounds have replaced it. Typo, I should have said magnesium hydroxide. (Sulfate not workee.)
+
+Thanks to this thread I just found proof not previously listed. I check every few years, being on many vintage motorbike groups such trivia holds interest. Seems Norton owners associations are fucking packed with engineers and pilots who being ancient themselves go back to the Viet Nam war era/Century series birds. Those guys have some stories...
+
+http://www.kemkoaerospace.net/ProductDetails.aspx?partNo=MILK%20OF%20MAGNESIA&category=COMPOUND&description=ANTI-SEIZE%20COMPOUND
+
+Fun thread! Thanks to all.
+--- 57878047
+>>57877971
+>I thought this became a norm sometime around the mid-late 70s-80s?
+Yes, but there's been improvements in that. Ceramic thermal coatings are good and all but they chip and fragment which basically starts to determine when they need to get replaced. Modelling of the flows has come a long way and allowed the design of channels to go from very simple designs to hugely complex ones with tons of internal features. The huge jump was in the 70s-80s but there's been continued growth.
+Regarding the major players in the market, yeah it's basically PW GE and RR at the top, then a huge gap. Safran, Honeywells, Williams are also pretty big players though.
+--- 57878056
+>>57878039
+>Start slow starting thread about T-62 review by Shawshank Redemption
+>Get to talk to a ship guy, F-16 guy and turbine engineer
+Made my day as well
+--- 57878065
+>>57878039
+Was a fun thread for me as well. Sorry I couldn't be of help but anything detailed on hot section I don't touch with a 10 ft pole.
+--- 57878081
+Boeing also stocks MoM. "Joint compound to avoid corrosion".
+
+https://shop.boeing.com/aviation-supply/p/MILK0FMAGNESIA=8T
+
+I can die vindicated.
+--- 57878112
+>>57878047
+>Ceramic thermal coatings
+Really? I thought the latest stuff that's sputtered/deposition applied as uber stupid thin molecular films helped a lot for resisting flaking and the other issues of relative bulk ceramic properties when they're "thick" over a blade. I guess that explains the move towards solid ceramic parts since if you're trying to get ceramic properties like that you might as well minmax the shit out of it and get all the high temp properties out of them.
+
+>modelling
+Makes sense since FEA capabilities have effectively grown exponential in following computing gains. They would have been working with really rudimentary systems in the 70s just to even crunch data on mainframes before they were able to hit Cray era machines. Now the proliferation of crunch power comparable to earlier supercomputer giants at a fraction of the cost if not as a service like with AWS/Azure would mean that a lot more optimization can be done.
+
+>>57878065
+It was cool I always wanted to hear from someone else beyond that one guy about why Soviet turbines had such atrociously bad lifespans. I know that the lifespan on the V2 family of diesels (as in the T-34's engine pressed into the T-62, T-72 and T-90) kind of sucked but in part the Soviet mentality was that they didn't need it to last a gorillion hours because they expected the tanks to be losses in the first few weeks of any war so why bother investing more time and effort into making them last for years in training when they could pump out a few extra engines for the training tanks.
+--- 57878119
+>>57878112
+To clarify one guy = The friend with aerospace connections I talked to. Wanted to know if he was pulling my leg a bit.
+--- 57878147
+>>57876475
+>I still cannot comprehend what the fuck went through the minds of the Russians to choose to preserve the T-72Bs instead of the T-80Us.
+Suspect T-80 regardless of flavor relied on Ukrainian components, not just the diesel engine version produced in Ukraine. They had way more T-72's around. Russian experience in 1st Chechnya war with T-80 was horrible, keeping them supplied on real battlefield conditions caused massive problems. 
+>The US can do turbines all day. 
+US has logistics to supply it and did plenty of mental gymnastics justifying using it on Abrams. 
+>We've had turbine ground power units on our flightlines since the 1960s and use leftover jet engines to power civilian generators.
+Turbine as tank engine is not turbine as aircraft engine and even less so a generator. Turbine fuel burn rate doesn't change that much between idling and on full power. As tank engine, it is most efficient when tank drives pedal to the metal all day every day. In normal condition tank doesn't drive that way, instead it needs to all kinds of stop to wait for other forces, orders and so on. There is a reason why Abrams was never selected by another NATO country back in the day, it basically couldn't meet minimum trial criteria on distance it should be able to march in testing conditions that simulate battlefield conditions. Aussies selected Abrams, because their army is small, so is their tank fleet and US could supply them with plenty if they want more and do it fast. Stocks of 2nd Leo2's were pretty depleted when they got theirs. 
+
+Turbine as aircraft engine is excellent even as turboprop as it light and it running on its optimal power setting in regards to fuel consumption almost always. Turbine as generator is even better, it is effectively always running at optimal speed. Also, second hand turboshaft generators converted from engines of retired fighters are cheap as fuck for places like hospitals that have their own emergency generating capability.
+--- 57878165
+Damn character limit. I honestly would have wanted to see what kind of shitfest initial Russian invasion of Ukraine would have looked like if they had kept T-80 as their main tank type. The amount of circus convoys needed keep 'em fed would have been neat.
+--- 57878178
+>>57878147
+>Suspect T-80 regardless of flavor relied on Ukrainian components, not just the diesel engine version produced in Ukraine. They had way more T-72's around. Russian experience in 1st Chechnya war with T-80 was horrible, keeping them supplied on real battlefield conditions caused massive problems. 
+When I saw those photos of the preservation hardware it was close to a decade before 2014. The Russians should have still had good relations with the Ukrainians at that point. That also doesn't explain why they're OK with the T-80BVMs since they're just souped up T-80Bs complete with the same turbine family.
+--- 57878226
+>>57878147
+>US has logistics to supply it and did plenty of mental gymnastics justifying using it on Abrams. 
+It has awesome amounts of punchy low and mid end HP and torque for how much it has bad SFC at low load and idle.
+--- 57878275
+>>57878178
+>When I saw those photos of the preservation hardware it was close to a decade before 2014. The Russians should have still had good relations with the Ukrainians at that point. That also doesn't explain why they're OK with the T-80BVMs since they're just souped up T-80Bs complete with the same turbine family.
+My guess for the reason for kinda newish T-80BVM modernization is that they consider turbine better engine in arctic conditions, that is where reliability advantage of turbine outweighs disadvantage in fuel consumption. Pure speculation from my part, but amount of T-72's worth modernizing in storage facilities might have started to run out long before invasion. Lots of T-72's stripped out of their basic components to buy a nice yacht for officer in charge of said storage depot.
+
+>>57878226
+Both diesels and turbines have advantages over one another as tank engine. I personally consider, seemingly most armies also, that advantages turbine have over diesel aren't worth it. Its more expensive, more compact size is eaten completely by need for more fuel. It is more reliable, but any issue with turbine pretty much requires it to be sent to depot to be fixed. Diesel can be fixed closer to the unit running the tank, some fixes might be even made on field conditions.
+--- 57878289
+>>57878147
+>Turbine fuel burn rate doesn't change that much between idling and on full power.
+Noob here, how do you throttle a turbine engine then? Normal piston cars control the fuel / air intake ratio, how does turbines do it?
+
+>>57877328
+I suspect it's not bug air, just there's a d e s i g n a t e d s t r e e t nearby. No guarantees there's other places on earth with similarly horrible quality.
+
+>>57877328
+>>57876676
+Rackmount stuff are designed to resist some stuff better but are weaker on others. They don't like dirty air, weird temperatures, but can withstand earthquakes and are both high density and easy to swap.
+
+Interestingly good consumer stuff have their own reliability constraints; one of the most notable ones is that they must function with as minimal / no maintenance as possible, because giving customer service is expensive. You can get away with cheap stuff that people will toss away (e.g. toasters, lightbulbs) but when thats not an option there's a lot of engineering involved to make things work (e.g. automotive ECUs, lithium batteries). A guy I know says automotive is even harsher than aerospace, because there's millions more cars than planes, so things that "has only 1 in a million chance of happening" will happen several times a day. See also Galaxy Note 7 which has a few bad lithium batteries vs total number sold and how much headache that caused.
+--- 57878325
+>>57878226
+These are what electric drive trains are good at; I wonder if they can be made workable despite the drawbacks mentioned up above. Priuses and CAT diesel-electric dump trucks have been around for two decades now, surely we can try something at this point.
+--- 57878354
+>>57878275
+>they consider turbine better engine in arctic conditions
+That's what I hear. The opposed cylinder engines that the Ukrainians like struggle a bit for cold starts while the air start system in the V-2 family of V12 engines is sufficient enough to get them by but the turbines in the T-80s readily start in crushing cold conditions. Still I don't get why they did jack shit to preserve their T-80Us, they're better than a T-80B as a base to work with.
+
+>>57878325
+>turbine vs diesel
+Personal opinion but I think the AbramsX concept would have been better off with a very modern, smaller sized turbine in a parallel hybrid drivetrain where it can act as direct mechanical drive with an electric motor set for the CVT and to absorb excess power to control the issue with low load conditions making the SFC of the turbine suck. That would preserve much of the acoustic advantage of the turbine along with the electric silent mode capabilities in conjunction with rubber band tracks. Not to say that stealth tanks are going to be the future but it would have been a bigger flex as a tech demo tank. Maybe big-little turbine or something where you have one optimized for average operational speed and the other one is the turbine when you need combined 1,500HP out of the drivetrain. Complexity is a bitch tho even if automotive has a lot of that nailed down at smaller power output.
+
+>>57878289
+Think it is either or for the air.
+
+>consumer
+I still think a good deal of consumer electronics are shit from watching enough repair and teardown videos where there's a lot of apathy for the design. Better consume and prosumer stuff aside where they kind of put some effort in to avoid doing dumb shit like putting the power lines next to the data lines (without any ground) and the most minimal of effort for conformal coating or potting is present.
+--- 57878369
+>consumer
+Heard from a friend that the biggest difference between actual good enterprise hardware versus the throw it away in a year or two consumer laptops is due to this because the consumer laptops are effectively designed with total apathy for shit like board flex and solder joint stress from that while there's an actual effort to do vibration and flex reliability engineering.
+--- 57878412
+>>57878289
+>Bug air
+That time this happened:
+https://www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2010/nov/19/crazy-bad-beijing-air-pollution
+>The outlandish description appeared on the @beijingair Twitter account late yesterday when levels of PM2.5 tiny particulate matter surged past 500, about 20 times higher than the guideline issued by the World Health Organisation.
+Then this happened 4 years later:
+https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26322868
+>"Laser weapons are most afraid of smog," People's Liberation Army Major-General Zhang Zhaozhong told state-owned CCTV television, according to the South China Morning Post.
+>"Under conditions where there is no smog, a laser weapon can fire [at a range of] 10km (6 miles)," he said, adding, "When there's smog, it's only 1km. What's the point of making this kind of weapon?"
+>Chinese media have suggested elsewhere that there are upsides to pollution. The Global Times newspaper suggested that thick smog could thwart missile attacks and make it harder for foreign countries to carry out reconnaissance missions. And official news agency Xinhua published an article entitled "The Five Surprising Gains from the Smog".
+I can only imagine the cope levels if Xi decides to follow in Putin's footsteps of humiliating his own country.
+--- 57878540
+>>57874662
+
+Oh hey I made that post about loving to be proven wrong. Man how time flies, feels like just yesterday that Fall had started...
+--- 57878542
+>>57878354
+>>57878369
+Oh dont get me wrong there's a metric crapton of consumer hardware (and software!) out there that are absolute shitter in quality. But there's some good properties of consumer targeted stuff that are less common in enterprise / B2B stuff that I feel is a bit underappreciated at times.
+
+Take commissioning. When you get new enterprisey stuff its likely they will need a skilled trained engineer to bring it up. Consumer stuff has nearly no commissioning, in fact most of the time you can throw the manual away and use it. Compare driving a regular modern car vs driving a soviet tank. Granted a lot of the time the enterprise stuff is more complex, but a lot of the time there's not enough of enterprise things sold to warrant putting effort into making those things easy to use.
+
+Oh by consumer I also included prosumer stuff, you got the idea.
+
+>>57878412
+kek good thing I visited more than a decade ago before i get that bad
+--- 57878586
+>>57869932
+the russian are literally building it Ferdinand tier tho.
+The petro electric engine they are putting into the Amarta can trace its roots back to it. The engine is a Tula generator build for it originally meant for oil extraction
+--- 57878624
+>>57878542
+>in fact most of the time you can throw the manual away and use it. Compare driving a regular modern car vs driving a soviet tank.
+That might be partially argued against as an ubiquity and commonality of control layout thing. If we had a world where every car was lever steering with manual transmissions then that would be the norm. Consumer shit does get a ton of ergonomics, user interface and usability engineering and design shoveled onto it so that even bottom 10% average mouth breather can figure it out on the third try instead of insta crit failing.
+
+>Bug air
+I heard that the air got better than that period for some parts of the country, in part due to that whole spat with Australia where they banned coal imports from there because Australia brought up how China fucked up their coof handling so the air cleared up. Now there's all the supply chain disruptions that caused their economy to slam the brakes so a lot of the coal power plants and coking plants reduced production.
+--- 57878642
+>>57878586
+Laserpig tryhard memeing the 12 cyl X engine aside I'd fucking lose it if there was an Armata based proposal with a rear set turret like the Chinese Type 89 so it looks almost like a Ferdi. Throw in the "it has a bleeding edge electromotive transmission to get rid of the complex gearbox!" propaganda type line and you would have an actual Ferdinand. Arm it with a 152mm or some special ass 125mm with single piece extra long ammo for full effect.
+--- 57878666
+>>57878586
+I know. 
+
+Russians would rather revisit a 80 year old technological dead end than try to reverse engineer a modern Tesla even though a cybertruck has nearly 250 more HP than their tanks.
+
+I own a 2013 Ford Transit XL, it has 50 more HP than a stock T-62. The straight 6 from my 1985 F-250 could move a T-62 with alot less overheating issues. It makes me sad thinking about it.
+--- 57878721
+>>57878666
+I used to own a 1993 Cadillac that had a 470 HP V-8, it boggles my mind that Russia can't make a obsolete basic mid sized car engine from 35 years ago.
+--- 57878787
+>>57878666
+>>57878721
+Doesnt russia made normal cars and shit? are all ladas comparatively underpowered? Do they import all their generators?
+--- 57878854
+>>57869961
+anyone know if the Type-59G or Durjoy have proper yokes or whatever to steer? when will russia resort to buying bangladeshi hardware?
+--- 57879043
+>>57878666
+>>57878721
+Your Transit or old Cadillac may have more hp, but don't have more torque than T-62 or a fucking bus with 250hp diesel engine that has three times the displacement of caddy V-8.
+
+When it comes to diesel electric drive and tanks. Guess what General Dynamics Abrams X demonstrator has. US military has been looking at electric final drives since fucking FCS in early 2000's. Diesel electric powertrain is something that could be powered with number of smaller turbine and generators, that might remove the idle/low power fuel consumption issue.
+--- 57879147
+>>57869445
+Are the Russians just wanting to give up Kherson & Zaporizhzhia's remaining territory they occupy? This shit isn't even funny and I genuinely expect if the offensive goes straight to Melitipol and the rest of Zaporizhzhia, they'll try to make up some "far and equal contest of arms" by the AFU, before trying to beg to keep what's left in Donetsk and Luhansk?
+--- 57879159
+>>57879147
+By this, I mean, they genuinely want to see their troops get slaughtered at first before retreating to Donetsk and Crimea when they give them just straight-up T-54s with nothing but a bunch of dopey Steppe Horde men crammed in them to do battle with everything from captured Russian armor to Leopard 2s & Bradleys.
+--- 57879494
+>>57878147
+Newer Abrams builds are fitted with APU to permit much longer range by not wasting fuel idling in loiter. 
+
+https://marvinland.com/product/10kw-low-profile-apu/
+
+Really every AFV and large truck should have an APU since most can use common designs suited to 18-wheelers fitted with a suitable alternator. Truck APU can run truck air conditioning too permitting fitment of AC to any vehicle with suitable APU. 
+
+There is little reason not to run an APU and the main engine if additional wattage is needed on a retrofitted vehicle for combat systems, for example to power systems a stock Soviet fossil lacks output for.
+--- 57879522
+rate new russian forest camo pattern
+--- 57879577
+>>57878275
+The choice to send turbine packs to Depot is a convenience option compensated for by a large pack pool.
+
+Much more complex and large aircraft engines are completely overhauled at any base with an engine backshop which is any major base around the world. 
+
+For those not familiar time, temp and power cycle monitoring for aircraft engines is constant and updated daily or more often so the US has a very complete picture of fleet status. Maintenance monitoring is a key part of US airpower permitting optimal use of equipment and normalizing operating hours/fleet wear. Russia is unlikely to be that diligent. "Pacer" engines are flown more hours to reveal wear patterns early so the data can assist fleet management. Of course competent airlines do this too or they'd lose their arse.
+
+Not fixing tiny tank turbines near the field is a choice but in no way a necessity. Ground support equipment like turbine generators is also repaired locally and at deployed locations because the heterogenous USAF support equipment fleet is too important to ship home units there aren't many of. Local units can cannibalize parts to make one from two or more then fix the rest as parts arrive. 
+
+Diesel power pack test cells, turboprop test cells etc have been portable for many decades. Here's an Abrams test cell with dynamometer at Anniston:
+
+https://www.army.mil/article/251143/dynamometer_testing_essential_to_m1_turbine_engines
+--- 57879602
+Old but has some stats and explains why they handed off to Honeywell to save money which is more important given their large power pack pool then repair and maintenance overseas:
+
+https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2006/9/1/2006september--overhaul-under-way-for-abrams-tank-engine
+
+"By 2012, the Army plans to reduce its Abrams fleet to 2,500 tanks with 4,000 engines installed, in depot, or in war stocks. The TIGER program will renew approximately 1,000 engines a year for four years. In January, the Army awarded Honeywell a 12-month contract with three one-year options. “I’ve turned over to Honeywell control responsibility for all aspects of running this engine . . . instead of us trying to dictate obsolete solutions,” Flanagan explains.
+
+The time between AGT1500 depot repairs varies with the engine configuration. Engines repaired under an earlier engine improvement program have about 200 of their 800 parts replaced and typically run 1,000 hours before their next depot cycle. Engines with more common return-to-stock repairs receive 25 parts and last just 700 hours."
+--- 57879621
+>>57878354
+Because the USSR/Russia produced about 400 T-80Us and sold quite a bit to Cyprus and RoK (around 100 total), while they had nearly 4000 T-80Bs

k/57866063.txt

@@ -1181,3 +1181,85 @@ Even Wetaskiwin?!? But but cars cost less there!
 --- 57876646
 >>57876496
 see>>57876143
+--- 57876659
+>>57876613
+>looks like shit
+
+The 180s that look good don't even run.
+--- 57876661
+>>57876633
+Thanks fren
+--- 57876667
+Booted up rainbow six siege for the first time since the navy seal update. This game is fucking trash both gameplay wise and thematically. "Operators" have the stupidest bios.
+
+Anyways court case tmrw yeah? Predictions on the libs' defense?
+--- 57876684
+>>57876659
+>with the stock you have on there
+--- 57876693
+>>57875594
+I'm 35 and still hanging on strong while my peers all look like shit although I know a 38 year old and he looks to be in great shape.
+
+Personality wise, you just don't care anymore, you can openly talk to women without caring, you become more humble. Money wise, you make more but with old age closing in, you are very conscious about saving, also your paternal instincts kick in and you will suddenly have the urge to be a father.
+
+Also, do not neglect your body, limit your alcohol to once a week, stretch and lift atleast 3 times a week, limit your goyslop consumption and you will still look good and knock on wood, your wife will appreciate your body and your endowment lol. Also, take your multivitamin, lots of vitamin D, and Ginger root.
+--- 57876696
+>>57876667
+>Guns kill people
+>There's nothing in the law or constitution that stops us from banning whatever we want
+They win. Taking them to court is a good way to protest, but it will never give us a victory without a constitutional leg to stand on.
+--- 57876697
+>>57876496
+Nigger.
+--- 57876711
+>>57876693
+Lookin good anon
+--- 57876722
+>>57875594
+1985 oldfag here
+eat right, stay in shape. 
+you'll be fine
+--- 57876724
+>>57876711
+Ah thanks, room for improvement though, I wasn't even lean in that pic.
+--- 57876745
+>>57876722
+Nice setup anon!
+--- 57876746
+>>57876667
+>bitch we paid you a lot of money for the verdict, so i think it only fair that you make all those gun having chuds pay for our expenses
+--- 57876759
+>>57876693
+>>57876722
+What keeps you old fucks going? 
+>inb4 you retards are mortgage slave boomer 2.0 barbaquers
+--- 57876777
+new
+>>57876770 →
+>>57876770 →
+>>57876770 →
+--- 57876781
+>>57876597
+Much of the purple areas are also quite rural.
+--- 57876786
+>>57876597
+purple should be exempt reeeeee
+fuck red and green
+--- 57876846
+>>57876693
+Looking great, mirin the body. Sorry about the door handle tho. I desperately need some heavier weights and a rack to hold my bar. Otherwise I can't complain too much
+--- 57876864
+>>57871890
+Only real answer is 77gr OTM, unfortunate it’s unobtainium up here and also expensive.
+--- 57876886
+>>57876696
+Under the charter we are free from arbitrary punishment and prosecution. The FRT is arbitrary and used to prosecute people. Have you even been paying attention to the last week?
+--- 57876930
+>>57873509
+Looks just like an arleigh burke
+--- 57876981
+>>57875602
+Looks kinda like my ex who apparently ballooned from 100-110lbs when we were dating to 250lbs.
+--- 57877040
+>>57875594
+It’s been all downhill since 25 I wish I could go back in time to my all white high school and bang the (female) Chinese and Brazilian exchange students. I guess I can’t complain too much though, I’m a homeowner, married a virgin and have kids. I feel for zoomers the future is truly fucked for them.

k/57866436.txt

@@ -71,3 +71,6 @@ I'd rather be literally anything but Metro holy fuck. People go on about how bad
 --- 57874633
 >>57866436 (OP)
 Prototype it. Start with something small like a light or a laser.
+--- 57876741
+>>57874633
+I think it would be better suited as something you can attach to things that get hot. A pot when cooking, gun when preparing for combat, etc. A solar panel with similar attachability would be useful. Something like >>57874067 as the last resort.

k/57866742.txt

@@ -101,3 +101,8 @@ based
 --- 57875922
 >>57868224
 based
+--- 57879318
+>>57866742 (OP)
+--- 57879324
+>>57866816
+This man's dick

k/57867317.txt

@@ -300,3 +300,23 @@ everything outside of the shooty bang bang bits is so good but watching the enti
 >>57875527
 the recent indian ones are much higher budget
 or at least the same budget but your money goes much further in india lol
+--- 57877037
+>>57875527
+>YOU ENGLISH MONSTER!!
+>mfw
+--- 57877168
+>>57877037
+>mfw sharpeposting
+--- 57877681
+>>57872646
+What regiment today is even the descendant of the 95th Regiment? I think they are not called the 95th Regiment anymore, if they still exist.
+--- 57877718
+>>57877681
+the bongs had to mash together a whole bunch of units due to downsizing
+they're just called "the rifles" now
+--- 57877769
+>>57867317 (OP)
+It's a metaphor for his new station in life.
+--- 57878031
+>>57867745
+It’s like I’m watching an episode of the show right now. Which I am, but I mean like a second one at the same time.

k/57867910.txt

@@ -693,3 +693,82 @@ I'm not a professional ethicist but I'm pretty sure it's the grown-ass man who s
 >>57876534
 >I'm not a professional ethicist but I'm pretty sure it's the grown-ass man who stabbed a child nearly to death for name-calling
 So what would you say if he was Black and the child had called him a "nigger"?
+--- 57876679
+>>57876558
+Oh, oh, well, it's such a CHARGED word, filled with so much history. . .
+--- 57876749
+>>57876558
+The exact same thing, since he probably is one.
+--- 57877309
+>>57876534
+Children shouldn't do stupid shit to strangers
+--- 57877320
+>>57876558
+I'd say he was based
+--- 57877362
+>>57867920
+The kid’s combat level wasn’t high enough. The NPC was automatically aggro’d to attack him.
+--- 57877416
+>>57877309
+Strangers shouldn't do stupid shit to children.
+--- 57877460
+>>57877309
+Strangers shouldn't just go around stabbing children.
+--- 57877830
+>>57867917
+fpbp
+>>57867920
+spwp
+--- 57878087
+>>57868063
+Sorry, Coulter's Law.
+--- 57878094
+>>57868515
+audibly kek'd
+--- 57878163
+>>57877460
+>>57877416
+Imagine defending kids doing stupid shit.
+--- 57878176
+>Federov
+--- 57878268
+>>57878163
+Imagine defending adults doing even stupider shit.
+--- 57878297
+>>57878268
+kid learned an important lesson
+--- 57878303
+>>57867917
+of course FPBP
+--- 57878308
+>>57878297
+yeah, "never relax"
+--- 57878350
+>>57867955
+>Federov russian name
+There's a healthy smattering of ethnic Russians in the PNW, especially around NorCal. We bought that land from the Czar back in the day, and a lot of them opted to stay.
+--- 57878437
+>>57867910 (OP)
+>POV: you just walked up to a 29 year old man and called him an NPC
+--- 57878486
+>>57867917
+Activating the Lord Stone for +50 armor and 25% magic resistance
+--- 57878562
+>>57875412
+Every dipshit to ever perpetuate the NPC meme and also the guy that stabbed a child.
+
+To be clear the levels of wrong aren't equal.
+--- 57878682
+>>57869429
+>>57867929
+Mike Tyson was right
+--- 57878876
+>>57867910 (OP)
+>>57867917
+My proverbial sides; have this oc and a couple of (You)s.
+--- 57878901
+>>57867910 (OP)
+>"Hello sir!"
+>(Speech 70/80) "You're an NPC"
+>"Where is the bathroom"
+>"I'd like to trade"

k/57868019.txt

@@ -250,3 +250,62 @@ No
 >>57876397
 >Esstac pouches (like you should be)
 Why is this what you should be using over molle? My plan for the belt was few 5.56 mags, one or two pistol mags, holster, dump pouch. Again its more just our shooting at a range or in the woods.
+--- 57876714
+>>57874920
+>>57876397
+>>57876532
+AWS LAB belt would be fine if you used velcro one-wrap to attach pouches and whatnot instead of things like MOLLE straps, Malice clips, etc. The Defense Mechanisms belt uses this same attachment method for pouches.
+--- 57876725
+>>57876532
+Esstac magazine pouches are the best (my favorite) belt pouches for magazines. They are attachable via WTFix straps, malice clips or Esstac belt loops interchangeably. When using a belt without molle, the belt loops are great.
+You could then run an eagle or tyr dump (which has pass thru) and a BFG ifak wth one wrap or just get the belt attachment version - or even use AWS, velocity, or Coyote tactical IFAKs (they support pass thru as well as molle)
+--- 57876726
+>>57876714
+Do they not slide round? I cant imagine they wouldnt move around, i wasnt sure how the official ones stayed in place (or if they do)
+--- 57876747
+>>57876714
+Shit, I meat to include this link:
+>https://esstac.com/blog/micro-pals-webbing-belts-and-attachments-/
+
+>>57876726
+No, they stay in place due to the velcro adhering to the inside of the belt. There are probably videos on YouTube showing how one wrap secures pouches to belts.
+--- 57876817
+>>57876747
+>No, they stay in place due to the velcro adhering to the inside of the belt
+ah okay that does make sense then. I figured there had to be some reason they stayed in place but wasnt obvious from pictures. That does change things a bit, i guess ill have to see what the one i already ordered is like and go from there. The condor wasnt even clear if it's a two piece belt or not.
+--- 57876818
+>>57873615
+Okay, I thought they were pretty well regarded/standard in Europe. LBT is maybe a better example then – even their Berry compliant, presumably then made for .mil LBT stuff doesn't say a word about infrared properties.
+--- 57876841
+>>57876714
+NTA, I'd expect this to be a little less solid than MOLLE.
+--- 57876904
+>>57876841
+Maybe someone using the one wrap method with their belt could chime in here. DM and Esstac certainly seem to think using one wrap is at least as good as MOLLE.
+
+Both methods have pros and cons. I think the Esstac page I linked about does a good job at mentioning them. MOLLE has issues, although some newer pouches at least have the .25" laser cut slots for finer adjustments.
+
+I think with the one wrap, as long as you've got it well adhered to the inside of the outer belt, it's unlikely to move at all. I'm going to be picking up some DM pouches in the near future and I'm going to try the one wrap out for myself.
+--- 57877056
+>>57876904
+For the typical MOLLE on a 1.75" belt, I'd agree. A LAB panel would allow you to properly weave the strap through both fields, and that usually does a good job preventing motion between the parts.
+--- 57877111
+Anyone know if I can use uv-5r batteries in a uv-9r?
+--- 57878222
+>>57877111
+fucking ridiculous none of these things will eat basic standard 18650/18350/14500s. AA adapters exist but apparently don't run as well
+--- 57879283
+>>57868019 (OP)
+Do tall kywis have way more retention than mids or is the retention pretty much equal through all heights? I don't really want more retention than what the mid offers but I like the look of the talls.
+--- 57879455
+>>57871622
+>molle that I'll have to spend $800 for separate pouches
+You can do it for cheaper than that. I'm planning to add a dangler to this and swap the straps out for the beez molle harness then put a hydration carrier on that. If you switched the pouches to kywis that would satisfy your minimum mag requirments. I'm not sure how you would get the leatherman, compass, and hex key set in that last slot of molle but you can get at least one of them.
+--- 57879586
+>>57871904
+>jerryrigging
+You know they make molle pouches right?
+--- 57879652
+>>57876725
+>Coyote tactical IFAKs (they support pass thru as well as molle)
+Shit I have one and didn't even realize. Could have spared myself two LAB panels.

k/57868061.txt

@@ -270,3 +270,21 @@ false. Founder and chairman of evergrande, for example.
 >>57868061 (OP)
 >our stock F-22's are inferior to J-20s with their best weapons
 While i doubt this exactly how many of those 'most advanced weapons' does China have
+--- 57876854
+>>57870720
+there is a reason that they're called bugmen
+
+>>57876056
+you're retarded and not white lol
+--- 57876870
+>>57868061 (OP)
+Can't they just remove the F-22 cockpit and replace with the F-35 cockpit?
+--- 57878170
+>>57868290
+Is that why Russia and China shut the fuck up any time they are deployed within 100 miles of their shit hole countries? 
+Notice how ever since they were deployed to Poland Russia stopped making constant nuclear threats? Stupid nigger.
+--- 57878485
+>>57876446
+Those kinds of people are generally nobility, which play by different rules compared to the random bugman. If you're some average Zhou from a Tier 3 city, you bet your ass you're going to have to fight your way through the rat swarm in order to get some economic security for you and your family.
+--- 57878520
+Honestly? Just retire her, build more F-35's with the difference, and construct the NGAD. It's as shrimple as that.

k/57869330.txt

@@ -509,3 +509,19 @@ someone some where has the quarter he used to make that phone call
 After Abe I have to admit they are getting better but >>57869348 is kinda right if you don't know you have time I think the smarter course of action would've been to but the case on top of the pipe and lay on it while the others grabs and body shielded the PM. 
 
 Japanese doctrine on protecting their VIPs seems way different from the west, I strongly feel not putting their lives on the line is what cost them to lost Abe the way they did.
+--- 57878166
+>>57874932
+>>57875043
+Interesting. Why'd the kid do it then?
+--- 57878298
+>>57869614
+The Japanese are 95% passive, 4% active, and 1% batshit insane. Guess who steers the boat?
+--- 57878313
+>>57869330 (OP)
+honestly the assassinations are getting so common they should just stage assassinations at every speaking engagement to keep the security alert, could even make it a national sport like basebaru
+--- 57878367
+>>57874313
+Assasination of Ru ambassador Andrey Kharlov by Turkish police officer. Missed this at the time but the story is wild. https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2016/12/19/russian-ambassador-turkey-assassinated-graphic-ath.cnn
+--- 57878597
+>>57870560
+did you watch OP's video my nigga

k/57869419.txt

@@ -85,3 +85,6 @@ whats better is that it weighs the same as the 16" scars that replaced them, lol
 >moved
 
 Pick two nigger
+--- 57877544
+>>57872519
+Who?

k/57869763.txt

@@ -137,3 +137,78 @@ yawn
 i told you guys that the russians will just conscript hundreds of thousands soldiers. maybe millions. liberal hegemony foreign policy has already caused the deaths and maiming of millions in the middle east. and now it is causing the maiming and death of millions of ukrainians and russians. is this worth it? what the fuck did russia ever do to me? they have literally never tried to hur tme ever. the chinese however, have sabotaged and subverted and stolen the USA economy for decades and we do nothing about it. all of this is happening while the chinese gain strength and threatens to completely eclipse the USA.
 
 our foreign policy establishment is fucking retarded. and maybe even treasonous, wasting our strength on a dying country while the worst threat in the history of the republic grows and grows.
+--- 57876688
+>>57870478
+Not a look
+--- 57876716
+>>57869775
+post his Bathsheba and I'll tell you
+--- 57876802
+>>57876321
+>what the fuck did russia ever do to me
+Tried to reintroduce a rule for nation states that says you can take neighbour's land using military force if you covet that land. We previously got rid of that rule because it caused the direct deaths of hundreds of millions of people, indirect deaths that probably come close to capping a billion and heightened existential risks to humanity. Getting rid of that rule reduced the deaths from conflict by several orders of magnitude.
+
+You already know that though. You already know that Russia caused this war and perpetuates all the suffering it causes by not unilaterally withdrawing to their own borders. You know all of this because you're John from Kentuky Oblast.
+--- 57876843
+>>57876321
+>libruls made Putin invade Ukraine
+2 much krokodil
+--- 57876949
+>>57870381
+>due to bullshit 'national emergency' claims
+It was literally a full blown civil war, how much more national emergency can you get
+--- 57876992
+>>57872381
+>Remember the Constitution only applies to citizens, and they were by their own admission not citizens at that point
+That isn't the position the union took. They considered the entire succession to be completely illegal and never recognized the confederacy as a real state. The Confederates weren't citizens of another country, they were just Americans committing the crime of insurrection. When Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, he didn't put a clause in saying it only applied to self-avowed Confederates, it applied to everyone but was used against Confederates (or suspected Confederates)
+Not to say the rebels didn't have it coming, but the fact that they were still Americans is precisely what justified the war
+--- 57877013
+>>57876321
+brainlet
+--- 57877130
+>>57873566
+>>57872563
+The funny thing is that it's exactly the type of thing Prigozhin should latch onto in order to discredit his rivals and strengthen his tenuous position. Yet he's denouncing what could be a lifeline keeping him out of said proverbial window. I'd argue that whoever edited the leaks are hawks unaffiliated with Prigozhin.
+--- 57877169
+>>57873582
+At this point, the military is so weakened I would genuinely be frightened of a coup from the Rosgvardia or intelligence agencies (Patrushev?) if I were Putin. The whole point of a rivalry system is kind of moot if one set of rivals is practically moribund.
+--- 57877196
+>>57870478
+FAS
+--- 57877222
+>>57870013
+>vdv highly retarded from the heat
+--- 57877608
+>>57870013
+noice
+--- 57877737
+>>57870013
+No need to try and decode today when this is here. Bravo, anon!
+--- 57877798
+>>57871347
+No, not really because they succeeded from the union and were seen as traitors.
+--- 57878389
+>>57870003
+>>57873582
+
+He meant the British MoD
+--- 57878596
+>>57870013
+We did it bros, we cracked the code
+--- 57878622
+>>57870381
+The constitution specifically says the one time the executive branch can suspend habeus corpus is when there is open revolt in the country. He did it under the exact circumstances the document says he can do it.
+--- 57878933
+>>57870013
+--- 57878978
+>>57870003
+One thing that's hilarious when ever you have these thirdies say "oh the west is decadent, el dictator is real man and will lead us through gay hellfire" is that democracies inherently have a military advantage compared to personalist dictatorships. The dictator can't allow the military to become too strong or it might overthrow him, he can't allow anyone to be too competent or they might become respected and then overthrow him and he needs to keep part of the security/military forces to ensure the El retardo peasants don't overthrow him. This is also why personalist dictatorships are a lot more unstable compared to even other autocracies
+--- 57879107
+>>57870013
+>Russia's corpse troops, the VDV
+You did it anon, you cracked the vatnigma code.
+--- 57879182
+>>57870234
+>rule of law
+>Lincoln
+Now you've gone too far.

k/57870176.txt

@@ -37,3 +37,6 @@ Based.
 --- 57875247
 >>57870176 (OP)
 Yeah they sure were.
+--- 57878239
+>>57873343
+Nice selfie bro

k/57870280.txt

@@ -455,3 +455,43 @@ Post their HIV statistics
 --- 57875400
 >>57875352
 (Second one)
+--- 57876731
+>>57870280 (OP)
+what does this have to do with weapons?
+--- 57877066
+>>57876731
+>he doesn’t know /k/ is a Langley-NAFO limited hangout.
+--- 57879310
+Monke bump
+--- 57879321
+This might get someone mad
+--- 57879335
+>>57870388
+Reddit
+--- 57879392
+>>57874563
+>and whose nation is single-handedly responsible for Bolshevism and the anti-gun trooning of the world.
+Israel?
+--- 57879416
+>>57870280 (OP)
+>they all look like welfare sucking football hooligans
+>the women look exactly like the men
+
+go get them OP, I'll seecyou on the sbs6
+--- 57879493
+>>57872808
+awww poor thing it almost make me fee... wait a second he's russian, yeah well cheers to another 100k russian casualties
+--- 57879531
+>>57870827
+>Tell them they're going to jail for supporting an illegal terrorist regime
+What a fucking bootlicker. Free speech. Fuck you faggot.
+--- 57879540
+>>57870280 (OP)
+Its now "tomorrow"
+OP you better fucking deliver by 24:00 Euro times or else your fake and gay
+--- 57879584
+>>57870280 (OP)
+
+Put the pregnant Anne Frank artillery shell picture on it >>>/co/136685000
+--- 57879598
+vatnig disapora organized by local rus embassy again?

k/57870467.txt

@@ -161,3 +161,18 @@ why does everyone have a carbine except him?
 >>57876147
 >like 100% of them retire with psychiatric disability profile
 lmao
+--- 57876833
+>>57873714
+Drop 14 lbs plate carrier, 2 lbs helmet, 1 lbs NOD, and there goes half of your weight. Most raids were daylight and they rarely stayed in AO for long.
+--- 57877525
+>>57873714
+Soldiers today carry more crap than any other soldier in the past had to carry. There's an image I'm thinking of comparing the loads carried by soldiers from today all the way back to Rome that I'd post, but I can't find it.
+--- 57877541
+>>57873714
+They moved slowly. Modern SOF still carry the same 100+lb loads when doing the old style missions.
+--- 57877596
+>>57870496
+We want legions of Audie Murphys, not Warwick Davises
+--- 57878068
+>>57870496
+i wonder if tinier bodies can withstand higher g forces? like jet fighters that pull 20 gs