Tue Apr 18 06:54:38 UTC 2023

his/14893670.txt

@@ -485,3 +485,102 @@ Where?
 --- 14906866
 >>14893670 (OP)
 Because larping in general is on the rise
+--- 14907499
+>>14906635
+I'm a supporter if that has been quantified by someone. Been a convert since 2018
+--- 14907723
+>>14893796
+Whats wrong with the cookie tho?
+--- 14907768
+I don't know, practically no one in Russia goes to Orthodox churches. And the ROC has a terrible reputation. According to the statistics of church attendance, Russia is practically at the level of Scandinavian countries (a low level, and this is taking into account Muslim regions)
+The Russian Orthodox Church lives only due to the artificial support of the state and the strange ideas of the upper class of Putinism. There, in reality, they are constantly building these temples that no one literally goes to. Without state support, the ROC will simply die completely
+Zumerki are all total atheists. Religious people remained only, oddly enough, in the Soviet generation, but it is rapidly dying.
+The Orthodox Church in Russia has no future.
+--- 14907781
+>>14893670 (OP)
+didn't dyer and his friends just declare was on the Orthodox Church in America? seems to me that there is a divide between online orthodoxy and the church in real life
+--- 14907794
+>>14894351
+this is strange. so the east rejected purgatory but then starting believing this. i heard it is controversial
+--- 14907808
+>>14907768
+I live in Finland and believe that all of our orthodox "churches" should be burned down. I hate their customs and they're fucking worthless in general.
+--- 14908283
+>>14893670 (OP)
+Reactionism. Young Americans are rejecting the Protestant movement because they finally see what it has led to. But unfortunately they are not smart enough or strong enough to reject Abrahamism as a whole, so they either convert to Islam or (more likely) convert to Orthodoxy due to conservatism.
+--- 14908400
+>>14908283
+>reject Abrahamism
+Christianity is the one and only true religion. no one is going to "convert" to
+>le pagan religion of your ancestors
+NO ONE seriously believes in doing retarded shit like that. nietzsche is dead.
+--- 14908405
+>>14893670 (OP)
+Because atheism is gay
+--- 14908793
+Incel chuds who cannot think for themselves. Orthocuck debate clubs online lay out a specious system which seems to explain everything. It's an intellectual form of Islam. The orthocucks have common tactics and forks which are used to lure in and trap unsuspecting midwits. 
+
+Presuppositional apologetics is a classic debate chud tactic, though Dyer lifted the whole argument from Darth Dawkins.
+--- 14908811
+>>14908793
+>Presuppositional apologetics is a classic debate chud tactic, though Dyer lifted the whole argument from Darth Dawkins.
+
+You do realize transcendental arguments go back at least to Immanuel Kant right? It's not some obscure form of argumentation only found on the Internet
+--- 14908851
+>>14902727
+You could say the same but switch Orthodox and tradcaths honestly
+--- 14908865
+Catholic stopped being cool and BASED so they're hopping over to Orthodoxy until they think that's lame too.
+I think Mormons will be the next BIG RELIGION for 14yo right wingers.
+--- 14908870
+>>14907781
+Do you have a source for that? I tried searching on it and just got that fat Michael Lofton shilling this observation
+--- 14909109
+>>14908811
+The presupp argument isn't really transcendental though. At least not when you want to arrive at the conclusions that its proponents do.
+--- 14909153
+>>14908865
+That would be funny as shit if they start converting to weird sects. Who knows, maybe 2 years from now this board will have an army of JWs flooding the catalogue with objections to the trinity
+--- 14909172
+>>14909153
+Can't wait for some zoomer to call me a redditor for calling scientology a scam.
+--- 14909205
+>>14896432
+At least we try to spread the gospels instead of twiddling our thumbs and cutting off missionary effort in godless societies like this old fart
+--- 14909227
+>>14909205
+Spreading the gospel online is as efective as veggie tales characters telling you jesus died for your sins.
+--- 14909231
+>>14909205
+I thought you were referring to Orthodox since Russian and Ukraine are the most godless countries in Europe and the Orthodox have had an absolutely shite record at evangelizing compared to Catholics and even Protestants
+--- 14909284
+>>14909205
+>At least we try to spread the gospels instead of twiddling our thumbs and cutting off missionary effort in godless societies like this old fart
+Not your place to do so desu.
+--- 14909411
+>>14906662
+If anything I think most people dislike the “deluge” of converts. I’m starting to feel the same way and I’m one of them. 
+
+The online Orthodox are textbook examples of the stereotype that the Church uses to explain why they won’t let converts join the priesthood for a certain number of years after their conversion. They say that new converts are likely to become proud and boastful without having much actual substance in the faith or real knowledge of it. Nobody fits this stereotype better than the online Orthodox “convert”, who couldn’t tell you anything about Orthodoxy beyond “muh icons”, “based Orthos btfo Catholics” and “virgin Orthodox tradwife” all the while promoting sexual immorality and other degenerate behavior. The online Orthodox are to Orthodoxy what the gay pastor tiktoks are to Protestants. They make up an tiny fraction of our population but their loud stupidity gives us all a bad image. 
+
+I think you’re absolutely right that for most people it’s a fad that won’t last for more than a couple years. The church I go to has around 30 people who regularly attend. Since I’ve started going there have been six recent converts, only three of them regulary attend services, and of the three it’s a single guy and a married couple. The others only drop in on holidays and rare occasions when they get a wild hair. And that’s talking about people who have gone through baptism and chrismation. I would say there’s probably another six or seven who’ve come to the church once or twice, seen that it isn’t full of eligible bombshells dying to find a husband and that we don’t have swastika flags hanging in the dining hall and they jump ship when they see that the online rumors about us being a hate church and find-a-bride service aren’t even remotely true.
+--- 14909631
+>>14909109
+What do you mean?
+--- 14909645
+>>14899316
+God said the church would be taken over but will not prevail in the end. CATHOLICS themselves before Protestants even existed said the Church will be taken over by Satan.
+--- 14910267
+>>14909284
+The divine mandate of the Church is to complete the Holy Commission. To ignore it makes the Church illegitimate.
+--- 14911760
+>>14901994
+the guy i originally replied to specified "white kids" as if theyre a bad thing. read the thread you fucking moron
+--- 14911787
+>>14909231
+Russia yes, but not Ukraine
+Church attendance is actually pretty high in Ukraine (70+%) for a European country
+Which makes the whole Russian accusation of Ukraine being a godless satanic degenerate country even more hilarious
+--- 14912313
+>>14911787
+No, Ukraine has like the highest divorce rate in Europe and is neck-and-neck for highest abortion rate with Russia also

his/14898581.txt

@@ -601,3 +601,203 @@ theres a reason hot serial killers got fangirls like bundy and not gacey
 --- 14906784
 >>14906772
 Singed big contract with The Daily Wire
+--- 14907329
+>>14898581 (OP)
+No, and you know this.
+
+The blackpill is totally real. Incels are almost completely right. Criminals will always get way more ass than criminologists. Women absolutely need to be kept under thumb or else your society is fucking doomed and we all know this because its happening. You can name edge cases till you're blue in the face but it changes nothing. We will never survive like this.
+--- 14907910
+>>14905226
+The majority of men haven't been hunters for millenia
+--- 14907978
+>>14900118
+This is why i fuck hookers exclusively. Fuck this dystopian gay ass earth i wish it would blow up already.
+--- 14907993
+Peterson is an old boomer who doesn’t realise that shit like online dating has totally blown up the old tradcon institutions, especially when combined with feminist-pushed legal changes.
+
+Him and Ben Shapiro will keep pushing the tradcuck man up line, but more and more men will keep opting out of marriage and relationships no matter how much roasties shame them for it and push the MSTOW meme.
+--- 14908029
+>>14898581 (OP)
+depends on a few factors. are you asking out women at least somewhat around your own league? like are you a 3 who's asking out nothing but 10s or are you a 5 asking out 4-7s? the former is entirely your fault, but it's so unlikely that you'd get a 100% rejection rate as a fairly normal guy asking out fairly normal women that if it were the case, it's probably something wrong with the system. 
+
+but what do I know? I'm tall and handsome and women usually talk to me first, so I've never actually been rejected in my life.
+--- 14908052
+>>14907993
+boomers don't understand hoflation. men today have to work 10x harder than their grandfathers for women 10x worse than their grandmothers.
+--- 14908056
+>>14898958
+even with nearly 100% social media saturation, less than half of people even use dating apps and only a fraction of those actually ever meet anyone from them.
+--- 14908062
+>>14900118
+Sorry but this is total bullshit, barely anyone is going to look at some dork in a forest on instagram, and we all know what tinder is like.
+
+If it is easy for some men it is likely because they have socialized near continually since childhood, if you get to the "chat" stage they will scope you out and see you have friends and go to parties, they can tell if you have years uninterrupted of building social skills and passed every social milestone. If it so happens you are some rags to riches success story, then you would at least understand our situation, you wouldn't be giving us vague shit advice like "take a shower, be confident".
+
+OP is partly right, if we put a herculean effort into gaining social skills we might have broken the cycle and avoided this fate, but we were dumb teenagers for fuck's sake. As adults we now have to pave our own way, but a huge part of our lives still depends on our society and community, the former doesn't give a shit about us and the latter basically didn't exist for us. You plonk a practical child in a high school full of wannabe gangsta dipshits, wonder why they don't instantly synch and go "well fuck you then" then wonder why we are like this.
+--- 14908262
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Say what you want about him but the man knows how to dress
+--- 14908303
+>>14908056
+Doesn't matter, just the fact that they exist means that men are on the ropes. Women know they can make ridiculous demands of pussy-hooked beta bfs or husbands, since they can call up Chad on their cellphones literally ANY time.
+
+The vast majority of men don't have the same options, and so do what they have to to keep their pussy ration coming. It's pathetic and gay but that's just how it is, you're competing with a horde of betas who will be literal slaves for women in relationships. Sure if you're really attractive and dominant you can still get sum fukk but pretty much no dudes have any leverage in relationships anymore.
+
+It sounds like an incel thing to say or whatever, but it's the truth.
+--- 14908336
+>>14905255
+I don't think this is even a matter of test, it's about taking care of and looking out for yourself.
+
+In theory, there's nothing wrong with dating or marrying older women, and betas and feminists are actually correct to point out that the average Joe can't reasonably expect to be with exceptionally hot young women, just statistically it's not going to happen.
+
+The problem with being with a lot of older women is that you reasonably have to worry that their motivations are wrong. A lot of older women are looking for a man, any man to lean on, and that's going to be a real problem for you as a man if you end up with someone who isn't passionate about you, or even really that fond of you.
+
+Basically, ending up trapped with with a woman who doesn't like you for you and just wants to be in a relationship is the male equivalent of what being used for sex is like for a woman.
+
+People want to feel special, and liked for who they are as an individual, not settled for because they perform the basic functions of their sex. It's not that hard to understand.
+--- 14908347
+>>14908062
+Tbf that dude is a loser, I used Tinder for a month and got laid after like 20 matches. I'm not that good looking either.
+--- 14908354
+>>14898958
+This person has never met a woman.
+--- 14908464
+>>14908336
+>there's nothing wrong with dating or marrying older women
+ahahahahaaha
+Enjoy birthing Chris Chan.
+--- 14908635
+>>14900735
+Find another site to sully you evil coward
+--- 14908816
+>>14908635
+Back to the depths of chaos with you, demonic troll serpent.
+Adversary of righteousness, go and sully another thread, bedeviled egg of the cosmogonic void.
+--- 14908866
+>>14908464
+Your infantile incel replies stick out badly in this thread. You don't know shit.
+--- 14908875
+>>14908866
+It's customary for decent people to get younger wives for fertility's sake, Varg's wife is 15-20 year younger. Cope you literal motherfucker. Pathetic.
+--- 14908911
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Probably it's because of (YOU); maybe not your fault, but it doesn't mean that it's necessarily anybody's else fault.
+--- 14908922
+>>14908911
+>maybe not your fault
+He clearly states that it IS your fault. Your behavior was not correct.
+--- 14908926
+>>14908875
+Are you angry because that's not happening for you? Is it because of obesity? What are you going to do about it? I'm single and uninterested in women.
+--- 14909004
+>>14908464
+You're not seeing the forest for the trees here. 
+
+My point was that even a man who is himself no spring chicken and for whom matching up with someone somewhat closer in age might seem reasonable and a more likely prospect than being with a young woman (exceptionally lovely though they obviously are), such a man might be well-advised to remain single than to rush into something.
+
+Not because there is something fundamentally wrong with older women as people, but that there are inevitably going to be older women reaching out for a man to settle down with, and this creates a danger for the man of possibly very much being settled FOR.
+
+Now again, while it's too much for a man to expect women to be head over heels in love with him, he might reasonably hold out for one who is genuinely fond of and has feelings for him. And this goes for both sexes really.
+--- 14909090
+it calls a good filter for shitty women, one is good and waiting for YOU.
+--- 14909637
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Explain the fact that half of millenial women will be single by the time they're 40
+--- 14910396
+>>14909004
+I only finished HS and got a license at 28. I was ill before. I am now a college freshman. Should I go for career women or younger women who share my classes?
+--- 14910676
+>>14898638
+>women rate 80% of men as below average
+>Source: my ass
+--- 14910702
+>>14898587
+>>14898590
+/Thread
+--- 14910717
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Take of a system conformist. He wouldn't be where he is if he wouldn't play by the rules, and so his "wisdom" follows so. 
+
+If this is what you relate to, then yes, if not, then no.
+--- 14910825
+>>14910676
+That number is from an okcupid data analysis. It's real and could be more skewed now than when it was originally released.
+--- 14910903
+>>14910825
+That‘s not what this graph says
+--- 14910946
+>>14910903
+What do you think that graph says?
+--- 14911127
+>>14910946
+That the average male attractiveness on okcupid is quite low
+--- 14911184
+>>14911127
+Well you know they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
+--- 14911194
+>>14910903
+81% of men are below average on that graph. Maybe you should go to graph reading school.
+--- 14911206
+>>14911194
+Where does it say average on the graph?
+--- 14911232
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Functionally speaking, he is correct. Adapt or fail the biological imperative.
+--- 14911245
+>>14911127
+Online dating is for losers.
+--- 14911251
+>>14911206
+What do you think belongs in the middle between most/least attractive?
+--- 14911308
+>>14911206
+So obtuse lmao.
+--- 14911322
+>>14911251
+Not average, probably neutral. Point still stands women did not in fact rate 80% of men as below average. Even if they did that would only be for okcupid. And even if the did in fact rate 80% of all men to be below average attractiveness that wouldn‘t even be a contradiction since average ≠ median
+--- 14911349
+>>14911322
+Correct, it was 81%.
+--- 14911418
+>>14911322
+Actually median and mean are both averages so the guy you are replying to was completely correct in his analysis. You just misunderstood him because you don't really know what average means.
+--- 14911424
+>>14911322
+>>14911206
+>maybe if I keep deflecting and gaslighting I can change reality
+If the far left category is least attractive, and the far right category is most attractive, then from left to right it would be
+>least attractive
+>unnattractive
+>below average attractiveness
+>average attractiveness
+>above average attractiveness
+>attractive
+>most attractive
+No matter how you try and frame it to suit your argument, or what you call each of these categories; it clearly demonstrates that women consider 81% of men to be of less than average attractiveness.
+
+
+>b-b-b-but what it actually means is that most men on dating sites are unattractive or [insert some other nonsense]
+The distribution is not just in online dating. Most men now aren't having sex. Over 30% of men under 30 are still virgins and the number is growing. Do you really think these numbers exist in a vacuum? How out of touch with reality are you?
+--- 14911429
+>>14907910
+Hunting meaning broadly traditional labor rather than specialized labor.
+--- 14911432
+>>14905232
+its the same unless you let yourself go physically.
+--- 14911722
+>>14911432
+Middle-aged sex is 100,000,000 times better than 16 to 20-something sex. (If you don't let yourself go)
+
+Never let yourself go. It's just slow suicide. One of my friends went from 155lbs at 34 to 250+ at age 40, and it is heartbreaking to listen to him wheeze and lie about attracting women.
+--- 14911851
+>>14911424
+>81% of men
+81% of men on okcupid. see >>14911245
+--- 14912400
+If ever single women rejects you? Yea lmao, you are probably doing something pretty fucking wrong.
+--- 14912844
+>>14898581 (OP)
+No, western women are absolutely mental. I'm so glad I live in a country where women know their proper stations in life.
+--- 14912871
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Yes, I didn't have a car until I was 24 and had no problem having relationships despite that major hinderance.

his/14900554.txt

@@ -304,3 +304,72 @@ It doesn't matter anyways, Native Americans have a fertility rate that makes Whi
 --- 14906766
 >>14900554 (OP)
 Conquered ground.
+--- 14908158
+>>14905897
+I thought they had no concept of land ownership? You /pol/trannies have a different story every time
+--- 14908488
+>>14900554 (OP)
+most of the land was bought THO
+--- 14908935
+>>14906766
+Like ur bedroom by Tyrone
+--- 14908944
+>>14900591
+>Zionist taking point
+So... Based?
+--- 14910107
+>>14900554 (OP)
+--- 14910124
+>>14908944
+לעולם לא תהיה בן אדם. חולדה יהודית מגעילה.
+--- 14911450
+>>14910107
+kek
+--- 14911572
+I don't care for the same reasons Russians in Kaliningrad don't care that they live on """""stolen""""" land
+--- 14911583
+>>14900554 (OP)
+test
+--- 14911590
+>>14904466
+>bought
+Mexicans were pretty much extorted for it aside from Texas and the Garden Purchase. 
+>not stolen
+Conquering someone and taking their shit is stealing. Vae Victims etc...but it's still stealing.
+--- 14911597
+>>14911590
+Who initiated the conflict? Did the French steal Alsace Lorraine?
+--- 14911601
+>>14911590
+Mexicans didnt own the South West, they tried to press a claim on all of Central America and Southern US, they utterly failed because they were not seen as the legitimate successor to Spain.
+--- 14911604
+>>14911597
+Of course I also have to ask, since the French instigated the Franco Prussian war, did the Germans steal Alsace Lorraine as well?
+--- 14911615
+>>14911601
+central americans were given a choice to join and most agreed except for salvador, who was promptly defeated. however by the time they were the empire had been deposed so they were let free
+--- 14911635
+>>14911615
+>most agreed
+what? They all repelled Mexican expeditions and preserved their independence, also Spain didnt colonize South West US, neither did Mexico, it was still indian territory, so much so the Mexicans invited the Americans in to fight the Natives.
+Mexicans hadnt even cleared Durango and Chihuahua.
+--- 14911636
+>>14900554 (OP)
+>You live on stolen ground
+i dont live in USA
+but it is still stolen, grow up, everyone stole something from another in history. if we paid reparations to any nations we vanquished we had to unexist as a nation. This statement applies to all nations except if your anation is a mountainous goat shgger nation that lived in same place since the late neolithic and accomplished nothing for the humanity.
+--- 14911643
+>>14900675
+>most asinine poltard opinions imaginable
+>coped harder over a comic 
+Imagine my shock
+--- 14911646
+>>14911635
+>They all repelled Mexican expeditions
+no they didnt
+>preserved their independence,
+that was because iturbide was deposed literally too quickly
+--- 14911667
+>>14911636
+>inb4 mountain hilbilly goat shagger nations are only good nations
+I am loooking at net positive. Yes, they might have participated in less wars and they assimilated less tribes therefore less evil but in net positive they are as same as an average nation if not worse. Because average nation instilled ideas, developed them, invented new ones and contributed the good for humanity and this goodness neutralizes their evils in past.

his/14900632.txt

@@ -461,3 +461,201 @@ British Mesopotamia, Canada, and Malaya had huge oil sources which prompted Japa
 Guess how much of these resources and industrial capacity Italy or Hungary had? Near zero.
 Britain could import already manufactured goods and produced food from its overseas territories.
 Germany could import zero, and had to manufacture everything themselves and farm food themselves.
+--- 14907557
+>>14902373
+And an additional 200k in other french cities.
+>These men were also the best trained, most experienced and well equipt of the British forces
+They were also kept in reserve after being evacuated from Dunkirk to defend Britain from a possible German invasion. Many were eventually sent to fight in North Africa after the invasion didn't materialize.
+--- 14908031
+>>14907557
+
+
+That anon make himself look like an absolute idiot with every post he makes.
+
+>BEF was the largest army Britain fielded...
+>Germany could invade Britain because I played HOI...
+>Just keep sending more bombers...
+>Paratroopers will capture UK....
+>Germany can build transports....
+>British empire had no industry or resources....
+>Europe has everything Germany needs...
+
+
+I asked him how he's going to ferry troops across and he said something about uboats. Lmao.
+--- 14908058
+>>14900634
+>>14900632 (OP)
+The second map is better because it doesn't show Dover. In the first one they put that shit on the map and just didn't mention it, as if British soldiers aren't going to look at it and see how close they are to friendly land.
+--- 14908079
+>>14902503
+
+Fallschirmjäger barely managed to take Crete, defended by British army clerks and goatybois armed with rocks and daggers and you think they'd last 5 minutes attacking the British mainland?
+--- 14908081
+>>14905553
+You're not white
+--- 14908124
+>>14900714
+>>neglects the kriegsmarine to sway the anglo
+Holy mother of cope. They were neglecting the Kriegsmarine because they lacked the resources to build a large fleet, it's as simple as that. Germany prioritized the army, which they still couldn't supply with enough fuel, for obvious reasons. They'd never waste precious resources on a navy when the army was already starving for them
+--- 14908133
+>>14900714
+>1 year since Russian paratroopers got BTFO at Hostomel airport 
+>70+ years since Market Garden ended up a failure 
+>People today still believe unsupported Paratroopers can accomplish anything 
+Germany could only ever defeat Britain if it managed to attain COMPLETE air superiority and naval superiority in order to land an enormous invasion force, neither of which was ever in their grasp.
+--- 14908142
+>>14902331
+>Seelöwe probably would've worked
+With what Navy, and what Air force? 
+The Germans didn't do it for lack of will, they simply lacked the physical, tangible material, equipment needed to pull off such a gargantuan stunt.
+Sealion would have been the largest seaborne invasion to date, in that time period. The Anglo-American invasion of Normandy in 1944 was an enormous effort that required 2 years of combined British Empire + American cooperation and industry to pull off successfully. How in God's name do you imagine Germany accomplishing this alone, in 1940 or 1941, when they can't even establish air supremacy or build a surface fleet to replace their losses at Norway?
+--- 14908144
+>>14904408
+Nicholas Pringle - The Unknown Warriors
+--- 14908154
+>>14902332
+>telling the British that they're fighting and dying for the victory of marxism
+Which ironically would have backfired immensely given that the British working class was pro-Marxist and liked "Uncle Joe" anyway lol 
+>>14902338
+>He thinks the common Joe was an "intellectual powerhouse" in 1900
+The armies of Europe often had to reject half of volunteer recruits because of malnutrition and poor health
+--- 14908161
+>>14902509
+Translations often make it *easier* to read convoluted German 
+>t. Read Thomas Mann in German and in English
+--- 14908167
+>>14902544
+>Unironically even HoI is a better argument it's at least based on a simulation model and not pure make belief of an untouchable Britain which was conquered by a handful of normans tranported with wooden boats.
+Anon, I...
+--- 14908187
+>>14902720
+>>your traditional neighborhood is bulldozed and replaced with highways and appartment blocks for the immigrants
+I love how this was so obviously written by an American lmao. Most UK houses are still from the fucking 1920s, they *wish* those houses had been demolished. The insulation is shit, wiring is outdated, plumbing needs updating...
+FYI most working class "trad" British common men were more like pic related. There's a reason why Marx and Engels wrote their stuff while living in Manchester and London, the UK was ground zero for working class abuse and the people there were very conscious about class conflict.
+--- 14908190
+>>14908167
+Germany focus on the navy build up and North Africa campaign.
+
+Operation Barbarossa led no where.
+--- 14908192
+>>14902786
+>Germans successfully defeated France therefore they could obviously successfully defeat the USSR using the same tactics 
+Differences in scale here, bud. Invading a Greek island filled with sheep farmers isn't the same as invading Europe's most industrialized island with a population bigger than France.
+--- 14908207
+>>14905175
+>Germany is the one that invades its Italian ally, Hungarian ally, burns down Finnish Lapland, and broke the Munich Agreement 
+>"Die Anglos did it, we wuz Gute Boys wir dindu nichts" 
+Okay Hans
+--- 14908220
+>>14907142
+>and if they had simply acted with honour on occasion
+Acting with honour would have been declaring war on Germany in 1938 and helping the Czechs rape every kraut who crossed into Czechoslovakia. 
+It's hilarious how the Americans on this website think 'EVROPA = Germany' and nothing else. Son, the people who hated Germany the most were other Europeans who had to put up with their bullshit.
+--- 14908225
+>>14908190
+>Just ignore the Soviet Union bro 
+>*Gets bulldozed by a freshly modernized and unmolested Red Army*
+--- 14908263
+>>14908142
+
+People online boast statements how Germany only needed to construct transport ships and off they go.
+
+Germany needed to construct pic related.
+
+Imperial Germany spent two decades constructing the largest surface fleet they possibly could, with far greater access to resources since they werent at war.
+And they still came nowhere near being able to defeat the British navy. They never even made it out to the Atlantic.
+
+Anon wants Germany to build a larger fleet, in less time, with less resources, to achieve much more.
+
+Germany didnt even have an amphibious doctrine. There was no equiptment, there was no material, there was no experience.
+It took the allies months before they managed to secure port which hadnt been damaged or sabotaged. They had to construct an artificial port.
+
+
+Just read this and try imagine Germany instead of America.
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_logistics_in_the_Normandy_campaign#Build-up
+--- 14908312
+>>14908190
+
+>North Africa
+>Focus on the front that drained the absolute most Axis resources for the least strategic purpose and literally led nowhere.
+
+>Neglect the USSR
+>USSR complete its military modernization and rearmament program.
+>USSR begins to further encroach on Romania
+--- 14908314
+>>14908263
+Also note that the US fleet that invaded Okinawa (an island you can walk across in a single day) was bigger than the entire German surface navy lol
+--- 14908518
+>>14908154
+
+I mean it goes to show why Churchill lost the election in 1945 while the war was still ongoing.
+British working class became pretty upset when things "went back to normal" after having experienced nearly full class equality during the wartime crisis only to revert back to the bourgeoisie aristocracy.
+Most Brits saw Labour as the real government since they had been largely responsible for the domestic policies during the war.
+--- 14908532
+>>14908518
+Pretty much. Telling the Brits that they were fighting a war to destroy the old order would have only spurned them to fight harder lol, the "golden age" of the British Empire was a colossal piece of shit for the working class and they didn't see any reason why they should keep colonies like India when kids in London were starving and dying of preventable diseases. 
+It's a lot like the USA today actually. Arguably the wealthiest and strongest country in history, but how many working class people in West Virginia or in Mississippi are happy about that?
+--- 14908714
+>>14905175
+Honestly this, both WW1 and WW2 Germanies were led by retarded Anglophilies. Russia is also led by Putin who is too Anglophilie, so they will probably lose as well.
+--- 14908789
+>>14908714
+>Anglophilies
+Bismarck stressed good relations with Britain because it was key to isolate France.
+
+Wilhelm could hardly be considered anglophile since he knowingly did almost everything to antagonize them.
+
+To the British, Hitler would go on to say nice things about them because it was convenient for his ambitions, and since he proved at Munich that his words meant nothing, his flattering words may well change once he has realized his ambitions of continental hegemony.
+
+The /pol/tard argument is that Britain should have allied Germany because that's what Hitler wanted and Hitler must have his way and everyone else must make it happen even if it's not in their best interest and Hitler gave zero fucks to meet them half-way in diplomacy.
+--- 14908916
+>>14908789
+Wilhelm was an actual retard, he didn't antagonize them on purpose, he just didn't realize what his words and actions meant. It was so bad that he was forbidden to speak publicly without consultation.
+Hitler was in fact a huge britaboo, he wrote so in his book. The Lebensraum doctrine was inspired by the British Empire, which he also saw as proof of aryan success
+--- 14910060
+>>14900632 (OP)
+cool
+--- 14910407
+>>14908916
+
+No the lebensraum was just the extension of German Drang nach osten which has existed throughout German settlements and national awakening 
+It was also the result of ww1. The naval blockade of Germany was a traumatizing experience which was a major factor for Germanys surrender, they wanted Germany not to be reliant on the outside world when they had no overseas possessions themselves nor the means to secure those possessions and trade routes. 
+Finally, it was just pure fascist ideology. They wanted Germany to rely on no one but themselves and being able to stand up to any opposing nation. 
+
+Hitler was never serious about any alliance with Britain. It would strictly be on his terms and a means to achieve his ambitions. I'm sure he would have liked an alliance because it would basically have solidified Germanys position without any real immediate opposition, but he was never prepared to compromise any of his ambitions for diplomacy with Britain. He was going to have his way and Britain can either accept or declare war. The British could only take as much.
+--- 14911008
+>>14910407
+he was very serious about an alliance with Britain. He wrote whole pages about it with many possible outcomes. Of course, it was utopian to think Britain would ally Germany, the theoretic scenarios never applied to reality
+--- 14911231
+>>14902878
+>Nazi Germany's economy eventually collapses
+>With plenty of time to prepare the Soviet Union ends up steam rolling over mainland Europe
+--- 14911235
+>>14903032
+You should include the weapons and supply shipments coming from the USA
+--- 14911607
+>>14911008
+
+You don't get it do you? 
+Saying nice things and writing nice things are irrelevant. Actions proved that he was uninterested in an alliance when actions demanded concessions for diplomacy and mutual goals and trust. 
+He betrayed their first real diplomatic agreement as soon as the British had honored their part at Munich. He loaned from the British state during the four year plan and then broke all the loan bonds. He refused to cooperate when Britain pleaded for more diplomatic will regarding Poland. The list goes on. His "alliance" was strictly on his terms and he was unable to meet Britain half-way like any real partner seeking an alliance would. He utterly gambled on Britain's resolve with every decision which further testifies that his flattering words of alliance may as well have been purely out of convenience rather than shared interests. 
+
+Do you need a more /pol/ reference? 
+Say that you are a BLM organizer. You post tweets all day about standing up for black community. As soon as you've received millions of funds, you buy your own property in a rich non-black neighborhood and tune out. 
+How should words/actions be weighted here?
+--- 14911638
+>>14911607
+not to mention you can look at how any of Germanys alliances with most euro states ended when they were no longer convient to germany
+>Italy wants out of the war
+>gets invaded and puppeted by them
+>Romania wants out of the war
+>gets invaded and puppeted by them
+>Hungry wants out of the war
+>gets invaded and puppeted by them
+--- 14911639
+>>14911235
+
+I could have.
+I could also have made it more illustrative how Britain had complete access to the remaining world market while Germany was nearly strictly confined within Europe only.
+
+But I figured the point should have been clear.

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@@ -243,3 +243,585 @@ Yep, fort Pickens and fort Sumter shouldn't have bullied those confederate canno
 --- 14907277
 >>14906393
 Congrats on losing a war and crying about it for 160 years.
+--- 14908164
+>>14906453
+>it was about the expansion of slavery 
+this is not slavery vs abolition, so you’re wrong in making the case about slavery itself, you even admit both sides permit it.
+>it’s still about slavery 
+No it’s about Jeffersonian vs Hamiltonian modes of economy, newer states were allowed to choose and Hamiltonians wanted to remove the right to choose.
+It was over political power and a clash in who would gain the power to asset their preferred political economy.
+It is a case of diversity destroying the cohesion of a nation.
+>favor northern abolitionists
+Abolitionists were hated by the north and many were among the victims of northerners rioting.
+No one actually cared about slavery itself, they’d outlaw agricultural estates if there were no slavery.
+I believe there was even the famous saying “Liberty and log cabins over slavery and palaces”.
+A very expansionist frontierist view, manifest destiny, vs the isolated insular more conservative agriculturist economy.
+
+If it was over slavery, what slaves were the Yankees and Virginians fighting over in 1640s when they formally went to war for the first time?
+
+Right because it wasn’t over slavery. Your examination of the issue neglects everything before and after the civil war and neglects the Confederacy and the Union were genetically, culturally, and politically distinct entities which had been fighting for supremacy in England as far back as the Middle Ages. 
+
+If the civil war was over slavery, why are Northerners and Southerners still distinct and somewhat hostile in their dealings today?
+
+You have done nothing to prove it was over slavery.
+If the Union didn’t go to war with full abolition on the table at the outset, then you must at least asterisk your claim.
+--- 14908172
+>>14906747
+For the South it was more about protecting their political rights, slavery was just a wedge issue, taxes and trade were at the time a long-standing issue, even to the point where SC was occupied by Northern troops pre-confederacy due to taxation and tariff violations. Everyone just leaves this out because lying by omission is trivially easy and slavery is tacit approval for archaic tribals being allowed to burn your cities or whatever they do when some felon gets justice.
+--- 14908175
+>>14907215
+Don’t occupy a foreign country and you won’t get shot?
+Also you are forgetting the Union within living memory invaded and murdered South Carolinians before the secession war kek
+--- 14908191
+>>14905633
+No the Yankees started the war when they denied the rightful claim of William, then continued the war when they began executing kings and nobles, then furthered the war when they tried to invade Virginia, then carried out political warfare when they seceded from England, then openly began attacking Southern native associates, then began tariffing and taxing States which has never agreed to be controlled in such fashion, then invaded South Carolina, then began an active occupation of South Carolina, finally Southerners in great clemency successfully captured and paroled the foreign garrison at Sumter.
+--- 14908209
+>>14908172
+>he doesn’t realize that historically northern and southern Democrats agreed on issues of trade and tariffs
+>he doesn’t realize that Democrats dominated government throughout antebellum because of this
+>he doesn’t realize the slavery was the single wedge issue that drove them apart
+
+Please stop getting your history from libertarians, it just makes you look stupid
+--- 14908216
+>>14901897 (OP)
+It was about staying civilized.
+--- 14908233
+>>14901897 (OP)
+Wasn't the yt's fault. Entirely economic factors, my good sir.
+--- 14908279
+>>14901897 (OP)
+Yes, adding some minor issues as well, but 80% of it was over slavery.
+--- 14908280
+>>14907277 
+It seems to me pretty obvious (as a non american) that the South wanted to keep their European culture, while the North wanted some bullshit reforms. (that eventually turned out to ruin absolutely everything)
+--- 14908292
+>>14908280
+The South did not care for European culture. Slavery was outlawed in many parts of Europe by that point. Jefferson Davis tried to get the South recognized as its own political entity by several European powers to help legitimize his cause, but they all refused.
+--- 14908306
+>>14908292
+Yes. It was still European culture, unlike the North, which was novel.
+--- 14908310
+State's rights to enslave Black folx.
+--- 14908326
+>>14908268
+you're a pretty uneducated non-american because this was nothing about 'european culture', unless if you're referring to slavery as 'european culture', in that case ironically you have it flipped around since slavery was abolished peacefully in all of Europe in the several preceding decades. read some history and spend less time chiming in on it.
+--- 14908330
+>>14908175
+kek you're one disingenuous fucker. but then again it's impossible to be a lost causer with integrity.
+--- 14908331
+>>14908306
+It's the other way around. No European could feel at home in the plantation society of the South, but they could feel at home in the farmlands and towns of the North, hence why virtually all European immigrants sided with the North.
+--- 14908333
+>>14901897 (OP)
+Read McPherson 
+Confederates themselves weren't shy to admit it, yes it was about slavery. They were unashamed white supremacists because they sincerely believed white supremacy was a scientific fact and that fighting to uphold that society was a worthy cause or else they'd all end up like Haiti. There was nothing to "hide", they didn't think racism was evil obviously, they thought it was as obvious and self evident as the fact that the sky is blue and the ocean is wet. For southerners, abolitionism was one step towards societal collapse and being murdered in their beds by jungle savages. 
+For crying out loud, why do you think Confederate fans just so happen to coincidentally be present in Websites where racism is accepted as normal (i.e here)? Why do Confederate flags just coincidentally happen to fly in segregationist rallies of the 1960s? Why do white supremacist groups just happen to fly the Army of Northern Virginia flag? It's not a coincidence, it's their cause and they believe in it sincerely.
+--- 14908343
+>>14908326
+>>14908331
+The North would be the alien side. Nothing like that existed in Europe until it was forced upon it after WW1. The South would seem pretty standard.
+--- 14908348
+>>14908343
+what's alien about the north, exactly? and at that, what's alien about the north that's NOT normal in the south?
+--- 14908356
+>>14908343
+Slave plantations didn't exist in Europe you absolute retard
+--- 14908360
+>>14908343
+>Nothing like that existed in Europe until it was forced upon it after WW1.
+You don't know anything about Europe lol. Merchant republics were normal in Italy, Germany, the Netherlands, and even parts of Eastern Europe since the Medieval era. The North would have felt like home to a Dutchman, a Free City German, an Englishman, etc. 
+>The South would seem pretty standard.
+The South would "seem standard" if you were a Russian serf or a Sicilian peasant living with constant violence.
+--- 14908364
+>>14908343
+>The South would seem pretty standard.
+"Tropical climate filled with voodoo practicing Africans and New World cash crop farms would feel pretty standard"
+Yeah right, feels just like Denmark down in Louisiana.
+--- 14908370
+>>14908364
+Denmark? I was talking about India or Congo.
+--- 14908394
+>>14901897 (OP)
+Yes. 
+
+No I will not argue, anyone who disagrees is wrong and a loser. You're welcome OP.
+--- 14908398
+>>14908348
+>>14908356
+>>14908360
+>>14908364
+>what's alien about the north, exactly?
+It was just something completely new, with hardly anything in common. It was mostly empires, with nobility and clearly distincts classes. No Jack and Rosie would be possible on the Titanic. Nothing like liberal democracy existed.
+--- 14908404
+>>14908370
+>India and Congo are in Europe
+0/10 bait
+--- 14908414
+>>14908398
+Again, have you never heard of Merchant republics? 
+The Burghers of the Hansa wouldn't see anything weird about the USA. Switzerland likewise was a Federal Democracy by this point. 
+Post Revolution France needs no further explanation.
+--- 14908436
+>>14908414
+>Again, have you never heard of Merchant republics?
+Not an important part of anything. By the vast majority it was empires, nobility, manor houses and such, social classes and honor culture (duels are known to happen until the 1930s).
+>Post Revolution France needs no further explanation.
+It lasted about ten years. Then came Napoleon and back to the empire.
+ lScroll through the catalog if you find yet another thread which blames the WW1 on the German emperor.
+--- 14908453
+>>14908398
+This was 19th century Europe, you know, the time period when the remnants of feudalism faded away, with the nobility giving way for a meritocratic bourgeoisie.
+Also, the feudal system of Europe is still vastly different from the slave plantations of America.
+--- 14908459
+>Chimp about someone that isn't even president yet an secede
+>Push more southern states to secede
+>The federal state takes literal months to actually do anything
+>They resupply their own fort in case they need to restore federal authority (as they are legally mandated to do)
+>Chimp out because how dare the government resupply their own forts after I uniraterally revolted and proclaimed independence, which is nowhere to be seen as allowed in he constitution
+>Attack said fort essentially declaring war against the federal state
+>"Northern aggression"
+No wonder the KKK were Nazi sympathizers seeing how much up their ass self victims southerners are
+--- 14908489
+>>14908453
+WW1 was in the 20th century.
+--- 14908497
+>>14908459
+the confederates shelled fort Sumter before it was resupplied. also, the flotilla resupplying the fort only carried provisions for the troops, who were a couple weeks from starving after several months of siege.
+--- 14908511
+>>14908330
+I’m not a lost causer and I’m not disingenuous just because I disagree with you.
+I am pro Union. I am not a libertarian Jeffersonian I am a Nationalist Hamiltonian.
+
+I think everything against the South was justified as war of conquest and the supremacy of Empire. But it was by no means legal or ethical by your standards.
+--- 14908516
+>>14908511
+you're dumb as a rock, then.
+--- 14908533
+>>14908489
+And? The nobilitys dominance in society was already over at that point.
+--- 14908539
+>>14901897 (OP)
+No economic sabotaging the south by getting rid of slavery.
+--- 14908558
+>>14908333
+Southerners were less racist than Northerners or Mexicans the former who banned negroes in free soil states and the latter who also banned negroes and removed them from society largely.
+The confederates list slavery as A reason not THE reason. 
+>racism was evil 
+Only western Whites unironically believe this today. 
+racism is just kin selection and slavery primitive economy available to aristocrats.
+Southerners were correct, society has been greatly strained by non-Whites and they are literally in fear of their lives around them, not because non-Whites are particularly dangerous but through a convoluted terrorist movement like civil rights you’ve got many constraints on White communal defense.
+>why are confederates present where racism is normal
+In-group preference is normal everywhere, go outside of the West friend.
+>White supremacist groups
+Looking at world history, is White supremacy an ideology or a description of modern history?
+Screech all you want.
+You have no reason to believe human populations are perfect equals. Someone has to be on top and someone has to be on bottom, who is reigning king depends on the times, but Whites are never low tier nor are swarthy peoples ever high tier.
+Now seethe at the global North who dominates the global South.
+--- 14908568
+>>14908356
+The Ottomans and Russians both had slave plantations.
+And European empires like Britain and France had slave plantations outside of Europe. 
+They were very familiar with pre-industrial economic modes related to or itself slavery.
+--- 14908574
+>>14908558
+White supremacy is unheard of in european philosophies, its more insanity people just think euros are this race of power hungry lunatics who see themselves as a chosen higher race. All the wars in Europe show whites give no shits about white life.
+--- 14908580
+>>14908404
+>Europe didn’t have contact, rule over, or colonize India or the Congo
+-5/10
+>>14908516
+Yet you can’t refute anything I said.
+>>14908533
+As nobility had so much power they could enter into states of total war lol.
+--- 14908589
+>>14908580
+>Yet you can’t refute anything I said.
+what you said is retarded and disingenuous, it doesn't need refutation.
+--- 14908598
+>>14908574
+Europeans only have Whites as a point of reference so obviously they won’t see something like White supremacy, which requires non-Whites for a foil, in the same way Americans do.
+Also Europeans were White supremacists they were by no means engaging in equal opportunism when colonizing foreign reaches. 
+>people who go to war don’t care about human life 
+Can you explain this at the individual level instead of making a sweeping generalization?
+You are not taking into account the events, personalities, and times that functioned as catalysts and pre/antecedents to conflicts and you consider White Supremacy as some vague brotherhood of Whites. White supremacy is Whites conquering non-Whites and ruling through elite dominance.
+--- 14908603
+>>14908589
+Can you explain how it is?
+What in particular do you think is so detestable?
+--- 14908607
+>>14908603
+How about misconstruing an attack on federal property as "don't occupy foreign countries and you won't get shot"?
+--- 14908608
+>>14908558
+Americans that think like this are so unhinged lmao. You seethe at black people in America but you also think it was natural to take them from the darkest African jungle and ship them on boats so that they could pick cotton on a different continent. You are deranged.
+
+Slavery was both evil, backwards and idiotic. It prevented industrialization and created all sorts of conflicts while enriching a small minority.
+--- 14908609
+This meme will soon die out as the propaganda starts to wear thin in american schools
+--- 14908623
+I hate american civil threads. Its always obvious its gonna have 300+ posts and its gonna be an absolute shitshow.
+--- 14908624
+>>14908533
+Mansions with dozens of servants were still normal until that point, and aristocracy with real power as well. Meritocracy has always been a myth.
+--- 14908627
+>>14908623
+American civil war*
+--- 14908633
+>>14908623
+it's like watching a dog chasing its tail. same dumb niggers showing up to dig up a long-answered question and act as disingenuous as possible to force the "it wasn't about slavery" narrative when even a cursory examination of contemporary statements by southern policymakers can put it to rest.
+--- 14908641
+>>14901897 (OP)
+The south didn't give a shit about states rights, they supported the suppression of states rights when it favored their slavery agenda as seen with the Fugitive Slave Act.
+--- 14908645
+>>14908641
+also moved troops to suppress west Virginian dissidence and counter-secessionism.
+--- 14908658
+>>14908624
+I didn't say that aristocrats didn't exist, I said that they weren't dominant.
+--- 14908661
+>>14908623
+that's what happens when you have niggers
+--- 14908674
+>>14908633
+>it wasn't about slavery
+
+It indeed wasn't, faggot. Cope harder.
+--- 14908721
+>>14908658
+And who was?
+--- 14908733
+>>14908608
+/pol/cels aren't known for their logic or rationale. They support the confederacy because their long-term thinking and decision-making doesn't exist, because it really begs the question what's gonna happen in the alternative timeline where the confederacy doesn't get raped by the north? what's the future of a backwards agricultural shithole that relies on enslaving people from the other side of the continent to furnish its labor force? how does this even play into the racist power dynamic when the south was the one shipping black people, and is who's directly responsible for the existence of the entirety of the black demographic in north America? Inevitably slavery will end, and the south will be an impoverished 3rd world shithole when that happens, and how it ends will probably be a violent uprising of all those slaves because their conditions will continue to get worse as the confederacy's backwards economy continues to go south, pun intended.
+
+At that point you realize that the average confederate supporting rightist isn't really a person of logic or rationale. he just supports them to be opposite of the 'leftist' (or sane) position on the matter. it's not an original thought or a position born of logic, just a reaction to another existing one.
+--- 14908734
+>>14908721
+Nobody, Europe no longer had a ruling caste.
+--- 14908744
+>>14908733
+>the continent
+the planet*
+--- 14908769
+>>14908674
+>For twenty-five years this agitation has been steadily increasing, until it has now secured to its aid the power of the common Government. Observing the forms of the Constitution, a sectional party has found within that Article establishing the Executive Department, the means of subverting the Constitution itself. A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction.
+>On the 4th day of March next, this party will take possession of the Government. It has announced that the South shall be excluded from the common territory, that the judicial tribunals shall be made sectional, and that a war must be waged against slavery until it shall cease throughout the United States.
+>The guaranties of the Constitution will then no longer exist; the equal rights of the States will be lost. The slaveholding States will no longer have the power of self-government, or self-protection, and the Federal Government will have become their enemy.
+>We, therefore, the People of South Carolina, by our delegates in Convention assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, have solemnly declared that the Union heretofore existing between this State and the other States of North America, is dissolved
+They very clearly seceded over slavery, and if they seceded over slavery the civil war was about slavery. Stop being a retard.
+--- 14908781
+>>14902342
+The Confederacy is one of the worst things ever to exist, on par with the Nazis. they got better than they deserved.
+--- 14908791
+>>14908733
+>blah blah blah I'm a commie
+why is it only commies that make these threads
+--- 14908812
+>>14908791
+this is the apex of replies you will get from /pol/turds. no argument whatsoever, just canned, regurgitated insults, driving my point home better than I EVER could by providing a live specimen of the average alt rightist. It's truly incredible how this is the average mental caliber of people who think they're better than others.
+--- 14908830
+>>14908791
+Ironically I think the CSA would have ended up as a commie shithole. 10 blacks per white in some areas, it was gonna go the way of Zimbabwe with some commie insurrection backed by the Soviets.
+--- 14908834
+>>14908830
+>im a retarded faggot
+Yes, that's why you post these threads
+--- 14908859
+>>14908834
+I didn't post this thread, just pointing out your backwards ideas would have created a state that wasn't industrialized, that was largely composed of illiterate rural blacks, and that would have become either a Latin American fascist or commie hellhole due to the vast class differences.
+--- 14908864
+>>14908859
+>you're backwards!
+>is a retarded fagot
+you belong in these threads
+--- 14908994
+>>14908791
+the south lost
+--- 14909010
+>>14908994
+you lost the genetic lottery
+--- 14909022
+>>14909010
+>mouthbreather defending a failed state that lasted barely 4 years before being burned to the ground 170 years ago calling anyone a genetic failure 
+here's what losing the genetic lottery actually looks like, bro.
+--- 14909035
+>>14909022
+Post hands
+--- 14909415
+>>14908598
+Wtf are you talking? Euros always had non white mortal enemies like Turks, Arabs, Persians etc
+--- 14909419
+>>14908608
+Americans? Fuck off you eurocucks are the first to enslave blacks
+--- 14909445
+>>14908333
+This makes the Confederates sound a lot better than they actually were. Making the civil war more complicated allows nuance and makes it easier to understand why people sides the ways that they did. I don't support any of the things the South supported because I prefer an industrialized economy. It is as simple as that. The confederate supporters congregate around racists only because racists are the only ones who will tolerate arguing over the other things. However if racism is the only thing the confederacy was about then confederate support would be universal among racists, but they aren't. A lot of racists think they were retarded. I'm sorry but my racist agenda doesn't involve polluting the continent with niggers.
+--- 14909468
+>>14901897 (OP)
+>Ok let’s settle this one and for all. Was the American civil war about slavery?
+Slavery is what motivated states to secede but the actual war was over the question of whether secession was legal. The reason why this is the primary cause and not slavery is that Lincoln offered to keep slavery in exchange for ending the secession. Emancipation was a military tactic and post-hoc moral justification for the war rather than the motivating factor for the Union. Union soldiers were not fighting and dying motivated by expanding the rights of slaves, they were fighting and dying to preserve the unity of the country. Southern soldiers were not fighting and dying motivated by preserving the rights to own slaves, they were fighting and dying to preserve their country (Virginia, Carolinas, etc.) independence/sovereignty.
+
+In order for the war to have been about slavery, you need to consider whether you really believe 1860s white men would have been willing to die so that a Black person could be free rather than picking cotton on a plantation. Virtually none of the people who fought would have considered that question worth dying over.
+--- 14909469
+>>14908497
+The Star of the West, which had been fired upon before the Fort carried reinforcement troops. It was reasonable to assume further resupply missions would also be carrying troops.
+--- 14909490
+>>14904147
+>San Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna freed the Slaves
+Americas civil war began in Texas, ended in Texas
+
+Juneteenth
+--- 14909543
+>>14908497
+>tHe CoNfEdErAtEs ShElLeD fOrT sUmTeR
+And not a single person was killed and they all literally shook hands after it and went their separate ways
+--- 14909556
+>>14908734
+That just isn't true. Class absolutely mattered.
+--- 14909610
+>>14909543
+Yeah and? That doesn’t make it any less of an act of war
+--- 14909617
+>>14909610
+A war how? Do you have any idea how wars were declared back then?
+--- 14909669
+>>14908607
+None of that is factually incorrect.
+South Carolina did not want foreign troops occupying their native region. Fort Sumter is a clear and present security concern for South Carolina if it is garrisoned with a military force which is hostile to SC.
+simple as
+--- 14909676
+>>14909415
+No, people in France, Norway, Germany, and Scandinavia were not in a perpetual state of contact with Turks, Arabs, or Persians.
+They rarely if ever had contact with them.
+It is nowhere near Americans sharing a continent with a non-White people.
+--- 14910302
+>>14909556
+Class mattered, but that doesn't mean everyone in charge belonged to a certain class.
+--- 14910624
+>>14909468
+soliders fight for a multitude of reasons. why soldiers choose to fight and the reason for the war don't have to be the same thing.
+--- 14910810
+>>14901897 (OP)
+Yep pretty much in all the complexity boiled down.
+--- 14910835
+>>14910624
+But you would agree, that the mainstream modern interpretation of events is actually very much different from what those civil war soldiers and politicians conceived of themselves fighting for, right?
+
+Because if you don't agree, you need to substantiate that White men from the 1860s were motivated to fight and die for the rights of Black slaves or the rights of a small minority of Confederate plantation owners to own those slaves.
+
+Since we know from opinion polling done in the 1850s, that an extremely small minority of Americans would have considered themselves abolitionists, it seems incredibly implausible to attempt to substantiate that idea.
+--- 14910861
+>>14909669
+NTA but South Carolina didn't have the power to declare itself a foreign entity nor did the federal government recognize it as such. Therefore, federal troops had the right to be there. That's like someone coming into your house and declaring that one of the rooms in it is now their private property.
+--- 14910913
+>>14901897 (OP)
+Yes.
+All states that declared independence stated specifically that it was 'the northern states hostility to slavery that makes the union illegitimate'
+--- 14910927
+>>14906005
+Nice argument anon, how about you back it up with a source?
+Because we all know the jews are being infiltrated by the french
+--- 14910995
+>>14910861
+every state is a sovereign nation in 1860
+>federal government
+doesn't exist in 1860
+>federal troops
+illegally raised mercenaries
+--- 14911039
+>>14910927
+https://www.israelhayom.com/2023/04/17/government-moves-to-tackle-haredi-draft-conundrum/
+All the stuff I said is obvious if you follow Israeli politics.
+--- 14911067
+>>14906105
+>NOOOOO YOU CANT SEND THE POLICE TO RECOVER PROPERTY IN MY STATE ITS MY RIGHT TO DENY YOU YOUR PROPERTY
+It's not just about sending slave catchers north to capture runaway slaves, it's that the law demanded that Northern citizens cooperate in catching and turning over escaped slaves, even if this violated their own personal beliefs. This is not an argument, if you genuinely believe that it's okay for the government to force you to partake in the enforcement of human bondage, you don't give a shit about states' rights or personal freedom.
+--- 14911120
+>>14911067
+Furthermore, the law was abused to essentially kidnap free blacks and press them into slavery, as they were denied a trial and habeaus corpus.
+--- 14911174
+>>14911067
+>>14911120
+>free blacks were kidnapped
+no such thing was a common occurrence.
+also, who cares? 
+
+If someone gives you stolen property, and you refuse to hand it over, you are implicated in theft.
+>NOOOOO STOP MAKING ME COOPERATE IN A LEGAL ENDEAVOR 
+lel
+so because you mutts didnt want to obey the police you decided to kill half a million of your own countrymen?
+What am I even saying, you kikes arent American in the slightest.
+--- 14911178
+How long would a theoretical independent CSA have abolished slavery?
+--- 14911196
+>>14911067
+>>14911120
+That had the benefit of keeping blacks in the south though. Obviously you want to ban slavery but you also want to stop the migration of blacks into the North so that the South is forced to deal with their own problems. Blacks are a punishment for the Souths sins, the North ought not have to also be punished.
+--- 14911204
+>>14911178
+Slavery is still legal in some states as punishment for a crime I believe. That's the legal basis for forced prison labour.
+--- 14911225
+>>14911178
+Last western state to abolish slavery was Brazil in 1888, and I don't think the CSA would have been so completely out of touch that they would be the only ones to carry on the practice.
+--- 14911307
+>>14911120
+>the nigguhs were le kidnapped
+holy revisionism
+--- 14911383
+>>14911178
+45 years perhaps. They had their own abolition movements and they were capable of living without slavery, in some places having previously outlawed slavery.
+>>14911204
+conscripted labor is not slavery, tyrone, how about you dont rob 15 stores in a night and you wont be made to pick up beer bottles and wings off the side of the road.
+--- 14911440
+>>14911383
+>conscripted labor is not slavery, tyrone, how about you dont rob 15 stores in a night and you wont be made to pick up beer bottles and wings off the side of the road.
+Legally it is slavery though
+--- 14911453
+>>14911440
+There is no legal court which presides over the entirety of human existence, save for only a divine court which permits slavery.
+--- 14911480
+>>14911453
+Okay but in the United States of America, the amendment which prohibits slavery, allows an exception for slavery as a punishment for a crime, which is the legal in the United States of America basis for prisons to force prisoners to work.
+--- 14911489
+>>14901897 (OP)
+No, it was about the conflict between the state governments and the federal government. This conflict, with similar opposing sides, reproduced itself all throughout the Americas, even in countries in which slavery didn't exist like Argentina.
+The question is always the same:
+>are we just an alliance of many separate states or are we a single State with internal subdivisions?
+--- 14911532
+>>14911480
+everyone else has to work, why shouldn't prisoners
+--- 14911570
+>>14911480
+working is not slavery, nor is it even defined as slavery, that is not even how they justify it.
+--- 14911580
+>>14911532
+>>14911570
+In some of these states, the obligation of the prisoners to work is non-consensual even if they are getting paid. In states where prisoners are not forced to work, whether the prisoner works in prison is up to them.
+--- 14911589
+>>14911580
+non-consent is not slavery
+--- 14911614
+>>14901897 (OP)
+I'll never understand these threads, it's obvious to anybody that actually studied the Civil War that the South was the primary belligerent actor leading up to the war because Slavery (look at the fucking Knights of the Golden Circle and Filibuster Wars) and they bitch about how brutal the Union was in return. I guess the lesson here is "start shit get hit"?
+--- 14911621
+>>14911614
+The Southern planter aristocracy was the primary driver in the political crisis. Calhoun and the South Carolina planters tried to convince other states to secede whenever a crisis sprung up, since they needed a place to dump their excess slave population, and the ban on the international slave trade would make that impossible if SC was alone. What made John Brown a southern bogeyman was that he embodied the southern nightmare scenario: a Haiti-style slave revolt/race war. Just as SC needed other states to offload their excess slaves, the South as a whole needed new land to spread their growing slave population, especially as the soil back east was being depleted by King Cotton. Slavery, cotton, and territorial expansion were the three pillars of the southern economy. The other driving force behind the proslavery movement was the assumption that free states would always vote against the interests of slave states.
+The Knights of the Golden Circle was a southern group advocating the annexation of former Spanish colonies (Cuba, Central America) to create more slave states and more plantations. Setting them aside, the Federal government had to dissuade southerners from joining privately funded filibustering expeditions to conquer Latin American countries. Leaving aside the speculation, the rationale for taking Texas and the Mexican Cession was southern settlement. That the land was unsuited for plantation farming, or that the locals didn’t want slavery imposed where it had been abolished, and the white settlers (mostly southerners, including California’s governor and all of its Congressmen) agreed with them, was a nasty shock.
+The 1850 crisis and the resulting compromise happened because the South wanted to impose slavery over a region against the will of the people who lived there. The concept of popular sovereignty had to be invented for them to accept reality, and they had to go one step further by pushing through the Fugitive Slave Act.
+--- 14911627
+>>14911621
+The Fugitive Slave Act merely radicalized New England, New York, Michigan, and Wisconsin, when very few slaves would get that far. Free states that bordered slave states had people who owned land and slaves on the other side of the border, so naturally they had few problems with compliance. Northern defiance where it mattered least inflamed radicals in the Deep South, where escape was nearly impossible. This radicalization destroyed the Whig Party, which represented people from all parts of the country, and replaced it with the Republican Party, which only represented the values and interests of the free states (despite their first presidential candidate being southern-born John C. Fremont). This drove southern Whigs into the Democratic Party, while the moderate northern Whigs faded away.
+I should also mention that the southern assumption that the free states would always oppose them was never true until the 1850s, since slave owners living in free states and businessmen who worked with slave owners held considerable influence in the North. California, the epicenter of the 1850 crisis and home state of the 1856 Republican candidate, even voted consistently alongside the South until 1860.
+The Kansas-Nebraska Act furthered the political/regional divide, as it repealed the Missouri Compromise and turned popular sovereignty into a tool to spread slavery. As radicals flooded Kansas, the violence was not exclusive to the abolitionists and Free Soilers, though John Brown’s exploits are the best known. The whole debacle was so polarizing that it made an incompetent asshole like James Buchanan, who was uninvolved in the debate over the law, into a viable presidential candidate, while creating an opening for Stephen Douglas to potentially lose his Senate seat.
+--- 14911642
+>>14911614
+>>14911621
+>>14911627
+Before I get into the 1858 Senate race, I should talk about the Dred Scott Decision. The lower courts all broke established precedent, which would have granted Scott his freedom, because of the political atmosphere. Chief Justice Taney, quoted by some apologists in reference to Lincoln alleged tyranny, read a prepared statement throwing out the suit because the plaintiff is legally property, then overstepped the bounds of the case to declare that Congress has no constitutional authority to regulate slavery in the territories. You can’t say that the southern push to expand slavery is a northern conspiracy when the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court outright said it.
+The 1858 Senate race is less important for its effects on the South as it is for the Republican Party. Douglas as the incumbent, pushed the 1850 Compromise through Congress and was the architect of the Kansas-Nebraska Act. Lincoln was merely a prominent state level politician who served one term in the House. His electoral challenge brought him the national attention to grab the 1860 presidential nomination. Meanwhile, Douglas tried to shore up his antislavery credentials with the Freeport Doctrine, declaring that territories were free until they passed a law to legalize slavery, alienating potential southern supporters in his eventual presidential campaign in 1860.
+Lincoln secured the Republican nomination against Fremont, tainted by his 1856 electoral defeat, and Seward, whose abolitionism and connection to Thurlow Weed’s political machine made him unelectable. Meanwhile the Democrats split over sectional lines and the moderate southern Whigs made one last gasp at relevancy with the Constitutional Union Party.
+TL;DR: the South wanted to spread slavery based on faulty political assumptions and their own unsustainable economy, the North tried to placate them, and Lincoln might have lost if the anti-Republican vote wasn’t split between three divisive candidates.
+--- 14911653
+>>14911589
+Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
+
+Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
+
+So I suppose you can call it involuntary servitude rather than slavery, however my point remains the same, the de jure status quo ante bellum still exists in some parts of America.
+--- 14911666
+>>14911589
+>niggers doing something useful is slavery
+it's anudduh shoah
+--- 14911771
+>>14901897 (OP)
+Yes, it was. Simple as.
+--- 14911928
+>>14909543
+stop playing paradox games, you low IQ zoomer filth.
+--- 14911939
+>>14909669
+Forts Sumter and Pickens were federal property
+The arsenal of gear in Harper's Ferry belonged to the federal army of the united states
+
+period, end of discussion. attacking those properties with the intent of inflicting bodily harm or destruction to property on them or the federal personnel guarding them is an act of unilateral aggression. go be flaming, cocksucking cuckfederate apologist somewhere else.
+--- 14911950
+>>14906001
+>>14909469
+nice cuckfederate revisionism, I can see why you backpaddled into "t-they would've sent troops eventually". minutes since an honest lost causer existed: 0
+--- 14912014
+>>14911939
+>Federal property
+so what? They do not recognize federal authority, they see a security concern and they act on it as diplomatically as possible to the point where no one is even harmed during the negotiations.
+>act of unilateral aggression
+not an act of war, acts of unilateral aggression are not a basis for declaring war as per US doctrine then and now lol.
+You can call it a diplomatic crisis, but the Carolinians were not wrong and by American standards the Union was in the wrong.
+--- 14912070
+>>14912014
+>to the point where no one is even harmed during the negotiations
+wow, thanks Mr. South, you allowed me to negotiate my surrender terms after firing a few hundred cannonballs in my direction. How very southern chivalry of you!
+
+>not an act of war, acts of unilateral aggression are not a basis for declaring war as per US doctrine then and now lol.
+Yeah, you're right. It's just rogue warmongering and sabre rattling. 
+
+Let's talk about formal declarations of war, my uneducated loser causer friend; the KEKfederacy formally declared war on the united states on May 6th, this was a solid 3 weeks before the first union army marched in anger against rebels based in western Virginia (who were burning federal property there as well, and wrecking bridges, railroad lines, mills, telegram lines and other public infrastructure because the civilians there were not pro secession). So even by your fart-sniffing midwit argument the cuckfederates started it. Unsurprisingly you're unaware of this since you're an average lost causer libertarian midwit who deviates to contrarian positions in everything to feel special and smart. One day I hope you'll have the mental maturity of an adult and stop adopting ideas based on social standing and start believing them on substance and rationale instead.
+--- 14912074
+>>14901897 (OP)
+States rights which just means the states right to slavery. The founding fathers knew it and kicked that can down the road so they didn't have to deal with it.
+--- 14912080
+>>14912074
+*state's rights to secede
+*state's rights to representation
+--- 14912123
+>>14912070
+>you fired in my direction, THIS MEANS WAR
+literally no one but bronze age tribals think this way.
+>rogue 
+nope
+>warmongering
+nope
+>saber rattling
+all shows of force fall under "saber rattling"
+>perjoratives
+they dont suit you, you are too dull to insult your superior in any meaningful fashion.
+>The Confederacy were defending themselves from a hostile force through scorched earth
+and?
+>they started it
+They did not have men occupying a foreign country lol.
+You can not simply make yourself a security concern, for example like Germany not declaring war on England as they drove through England's allies, and expect there to be no reprisal, sow the wind reap the whirlwind right?
+>blah blah you are dumb
+yes yes very sophisticated and compelling.
+However, you have never once addressed the legitimacy of the CSA's security concerns, that being foreign occupiers garrisoned within their Country.
+--- 14912141
+>>14912123
+>>you fired in my direction, THIS MEANS WAR
+>literally no one but bronze age tribals think this way.
+if someone fired on me, yeah, this means war. this means that person is trying to hit me, and I'm completely within my rights to practice self defense.
+
+not going to even bother reading past this line, because you are terminally retarded and there's no more point indulging an overgrown teenager. so long, lost causer.
+--- 14912160
+>>14912141
+>yeah this means war
+this is why you dont understand, you have a child's grasp of politics and diplomacy.
+>im within my rights to invade a foreign country and practiced unrestricted warfare because they shot canons at a wall 
+This is simply laughable.
+>not going to bother addressing what I cant refute
+I know, you can not refute Sumter was a security concern and its not being summarily handed over lead to a diplomatic crisis.
+--- 14912178
+>you have a child's grasp of politics and diplomacy
+What an astonishing lack of self awareness, then again - it is *impossible* to be a sane, adult cuckfederate apologist
+--- 14912192
+>I will declare over the smallest slight even though I was totally incorrigible 
+Remember this mutt is utterly confounded by the fact China just turned the entire planet against him last month.
+--- 14912500
+>>14908331
+>>14908348
+>>14908360
+Normal people went to the South. The North was where social rejects criminals and other scum went, bred, and started their crusade agains evil civilization.
+--- 14912588
+>>14908558
+>The confederates list slavery as A reason not THE reason.
+No, they list it as THE reason. Maybe not the only reason, but without slavery there would have been no real secession movement.
+>Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.
+I'd cite the speech directly but you disingenuous fucks already know exactly who said it and when.
+--- 14913022
+>>14912192
+They did?

his/14902435.txt

@@ -235,3 +235,75 @@ What about the fact it hasn't faded away when other works from the period have e
 --- 14907038
 >>14903138
 A painting on a canvas is different. This was in a piece of cloth.
+--- 14907875
+>>14907036
+>when other works from the period have entirely faded away
+All of them or some of them?
+>Likewise why is there no pencil sketchings in it, paintings that complex would typically require an outline.
+Would they typically require an outline or is it inconceivable for a painting like that to have been done without an outline?
+--- 14907893
+>>14906819
+Again, where's a Hindu version of an object that has already been scrutinized and studied by scientist and experts that they proport to be holy and has been has been mostly the same for some 500 years. You can keep saying ill deny it because I'm not Hindu but in reality I don't think there's a equivalent in Hinduism to the Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe.
+
+
+>You believe a magic Jewess appeared 500 years ago entirely because it reinforces your biases.
+Because an artifact from that visit is still around 500 years later and can be easily seen in Mexico City.
+--- 14907895
+>>14905711
+Sure thing, bud, go ahead and prove that.
+--- 14907901
+God is a shitty painter. A random faggot from deviantart could do a better job. Makes sense, though, the world he made is pretty shitty too.
+--- 14907908
+>>14907901
+>Neither the fabric ("the support") nor the image (together, "the tilma") has been analyzed using the full range of resources now available to museum conservators. 
+zzz... give it to modern scientists maybe they will discover something interesting. maybe it has god's dna or something, lol.
+--- 14907916
+>>14902435 (OP)
+>this thread is still active
+Pareidolia and a painter "restoring" painting is a big neat stuff huh?
+Here, have a "Our Lady of Grilled Cheese"
+--- 14908463
+>>14902435 (OP)
+The fact that every Latin American country has its own "patron virgin" with some mythical miracle story proves it's all bullshit desu. In Argentina we have the "Virgin of Lujan" which is a statue of the Virgin with a "miracle story" according to which the cart transporting it would not move any further with the statue inside it, yet it would move again when the statue was not on board. According to the story they tried several times the same experiment, and the horses pulling the cart would refuse to move as long as the statue was on board. So they built the chapel there because apparently the Virgin had "chosen" that site.
+
+Now it's a pretty neat Neogothic style Cathedral built there. But it's all 16th century fairy tales.
+--- 14910009
+>>14902435 (OP)
+I can't
+--- 14910333
+>>14903341
+>blood lusting demon-worshipping pagans
+rich coming from God-Eaters
+--- 14910362
+>>14907893
+The Japanese still has three sacred treasures.
+You guys lost the Ark of the Covenant and everything in there
+--- 14910393
+>>14903448
+>we cannot find any evidence to support our theories about space
+>i know, let's say that there is some king of strange unexplainable matter holding things together exactly in the way we say it is!
+Trusting science at this point is the same as "it came to me in a dream"
+--- 14910613
+>>14910393
+Dark matter is consistent with gravitational lensing though. And it's not strange and unexplainable - it's probably basically the same thing as neutrinos except not moving at relativistic speeds.
+--- 14910659
+>>14910393
+Well, you trust it on everithing else in life
+--- 14910698
+>>14910613
+
+Why dont you go sacrifice more children at cern you stanist groomer
+--- 14910879
+>>14910698
+Not an argument, my little neurodivergent friend.
+--- 14911436
+>>14910362
+>You guys lost the Ark of the Covenant and everything in there
+We didn't, I know it's theological but Christ is the 'embodiment' if you will, of the three things inside the ark, being the Staff of Aaron, the Ten Commandants, and the Mana from heaven, and the Virgin Mary being the Ark herself as she held Christ in her womb. 
+
+>The Japanese still has three sacred treasures.
+Cool, I'll check it out.
+--- 14912789
+>>14910698
+>you stanist groomer
+stan is love, stan is life.

his/14903652.txt

@@ -55,3 +55,70 @@ African americans speak germanic, are they germanic?
 --- 14907069
 >>14907049
 only if others choose to view them that way
+--- 14908001
+>>14904022
+>modern scots identify as celtic
+Doesn't matter. 'Celtic' is a bullshit larp identity.
+--- 14908712
+>>14908001
+proof?
+--- 14908730
+Celtic, unless you're some eternally assmad English weirdo who needs to sate his coagulated ichor blood's desire to dismantle Gaelic identity.
+--- 14908740
+>>14908730
+>gaelic identity
+LARP
+Scotland is a fake nation
+Your "national dish" haggis, is first recorded in a medieval english cookbook
+Your "national dress", the kilt, was invented by an englishman, and is only worn due to cringe romantic LARP revivalism
+Your "wars of independence" were a inter-norman feud, fought by norman lords controlling english speaking peasants on both sides. Robert the bruce was of norman aristocrat stock, william wallace was a welsh-norman aristocrat
+Your "national instrument", the bagpipe, is not native to scotland and is played in england, ireland, and all across europe and the middle east
+Your "national epic", the ossian, is a fraud and a forgery
+Your "national figures" are almost all of lowland origin, with anglo saxon last names
+Your "country" is fake
+--- 14908746
+>>14908730
+what is "gaelic identity" and how do scottish people express it?
+--- 14908813
+>>14908746
+It is when you bitch and moan nonstop about being oppressed by England, even if you never actually really were
+--- 14908824
+>Anglo recites angry little post on cue
+Imagine living on THIS board day to day.
+--- 14908896
+>>14908824
+You are an anglo, porridge wog, although you keep trying to deny it
+--- 14908917
+>>14908712
+The Scots, Welsh and Irish didn't call themselves Celts before around 300 years ago
+--- 14908973
+>>14903652 (OP)
+Lowlands and the Northern Isles are Germanic
+Highlands are Celtic
+--- 14909006
+>>14908896
+A rare instance of you actually creating a new post in one of your threads, I think.
+Please don't let me know this was another line you pulled up from your .txt
+--- 14909219
+>>14909006
+>A rare instance of you actually creating a new-ACK!
+--- 14909673
+>>14903669
+So Mexicans are Celtic also? Same with Brazilians and 25% of African Americans?
+--- 14910408
+>>14908917
+people didn't call themselves homo sapiens before 250 years ago so I guess that's a larp as well lol. Brainlet
+--- 14911995
+>>14908740
+kek
+It's hilarious how much of Scottish identity is just a larp that they've just run with
+--- 14912186
+>>14908740
+>>14911995
+>English come to Scotland
+>begin recording the sophisticated Scots with a marvelous reverent awe
+>Britards larping as Saxons (no Anglo exceeds 45% Saxon) pretend they invented Scottish culture because they were glorified scribes taken in by the Highland Lairds.
+--- 14912227
+>>14912186
+>sophisticated Scots
+lmao

his/14904055.txt

@@ -79,3 +79,77 @@ https://youtu.be/-BvN5p8bZq8 [Embed]
 >>14904055 (OP)
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xbAeTiZm8Q&t=6s [Embed]
 only moment of French hisotry when both republicans and monarchists came to unite against rootless intellectuals who pushed for "progress (of exactly what?)" and other leftie lunatics.
+--- 14907705
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0olrJAmX60 [Embed]
+--- 14907711
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xr1Wd17w-g [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap1Qm6TqajU [Embed]
+--- 14908621
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwq5MQLKcwQ [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGXFO5Wlz7E [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjh9zArF52g [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08db7dp7hPg [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrKFOmBZVpA [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqeQ8uS5zpI [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCpblOvToL4 [Embed]
+--- 14909511
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsh3xtFeprA [Embed]
+--- 14910502
+>>14904055 (OP)
+Bump
+--- 14911290
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT4OKjeLFVE [Embed]
+--- 14911299
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MdI2xPHw_k [Embed]
+--- 14911325
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5hZWjvcgdM [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voi6jo8r7AQ [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC98ZKiSsV0 [Embed]
+--- 14911382
+>>14904055 (OP)
+my /his/ best of all cultural continents list:
+European native
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Oi0rbUXE [Embed]
+East Asian (Sinosphere) native
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPxXYwCnc7w [Embed]
+Indian native
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecMGhaq-7Hs [Embed]
+African native
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtHLCw4rYI0 [Embed]
+North American native
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLbLbV7r2ZA&t= [Embed]
+South American native
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bhkseifA9o [Embed]
+Oceanian native (it was almostt impossible to find a good one)
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzbna8Y8ag4 [Embed]
+--- 14911437
+>>14911382
+funny thing is Chinese song i used here is not just popular around Chinese but also is official anthem of a proto-state in Myanmar
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmsbn_delro [Embed]
+--- 14911553
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dczb6cXVD1I [Embed]
+--- 14911897
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A1PJmmf72Q [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-yqYGUvAWA [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jio1HP94R8 [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0szo6O6vTC0 [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX5qguWrzMU [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6bvrjAF00o [Embed]
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKrLvtDm-pE [Embed]
+--- 14912339
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAlg_xnaJQc [Embed]

his/14904336.txt

@@ -62,10 +62,6 @@ the further north in the Plains you go the softer and more anti-capital punishme
 --- 14904708
 >>14904687
 As OP said Oklahoma is a lot more like the South culturally while the northern Plains were settled by cucked Germans and Scandis who practiced Lutheranism and Pietism. Minnesota decided to get rid of capital punishment after a botched public hanging in 1913 while in the South they'd be like "oh well he murdered people he deserved to suffer some."
---- 14904714
->>14904658
-You're a self-admitted nigger loving faggot. You also have the nerve to call 
-yourself a freethinker when you are yet another lobotomized kike golem participating in a divide and conquer game. You eagerly submit to control freaks that want to flood every corner of the country with feral niggers and spics. That's honeslty pathetic.
 --- 14904723
 >>14904714
 I wasn't the guy who posted the greentext.
@@ -143,3 +139,61 @@ btw, Oklahoma cops also do not bother investigating crime unless a white person
 --- 14906967
 >>14906835
 The US Postal Service banned the mailing of lynching postcards in 1909 but they were still widely circulated. Laura Nelson's lynching was photographed so it is a particularly famous one.
+--- 14907936
+>>14904541
+Seethe
+--- 14908672
+N
+--- 14908783
+X
+--- 14908788
+>>14906922
+Based
+--- 14908894
+>LBJfag still at it
+--- 14908912
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_executed_in_Oklahoma
+
+To be fair Oklahoma doesn't execute blacks at a disproportionate rate like the states of the Deep South historically did; they've executed people of all races in equal numbers and this was true in the pre-modern era of criminal justice as well. six of the last seven people executed have been white.
+--- 14909267
+>>14908912
+
+Only because whites out there are crazy too
+--- 14909443
+>>14905671
+no
+--- 14909453
+>>14904541
+Woodie didn’t know that anarchist socialism is the root of Fascism anyways
+--- 14909694
+>>14908894
+Meds
+--- 14910180
+Considering its extensive use of capital punishment, it may be more surprising that Oklahoma took 13 years after the resumption of the practice in the late '70s to execute someone. The first execution the Sooner State carried out in the modern era was that of Charles Troy Coleman, who murdered a middle aged couple in Muskogee County during a 1979 robbery attempt. He was executed September 10, 1990.
+
+Kelly Lamont Rogers, an African-American man who raped and murdered a pizza delivery girl in Stillwater, committed his dastardly deed three months after Coleman met the executioner's needle. Karen Lauffenburger, a 21 year old interior design student at Oklahoma State University, was working for Bye 'n Bye Pizza to help pay for college. On the afternoon of December 19, Lauffenburger delivered a pizza to the apartment Rogers shared with his girlfriend Audra Todd. As she was turning around to go back to her car, Rogers grabbed a knife, chased after her, and told her to give her all the delivery money she had with her or else. Karen only had $40 with her so Rogers ordered her to drive to her apartment. Karen complied and when they got there she handed him her ATM card. They went to a bank where she withdrew her entire checking account, a total of $175, and then returned to the apartment.
+--- 14910194
+When Karen failed to come back to the Bye 'n Bye restaurant on time, the manager, Eric Zanotelli, grew concerned and started wondering where she was. He drove to Rogers' apartment, where she had been making her last delivery to, and knocked on the door. Audra Todd answered, said they'd gotten the pizza, and then Karen left. Zanotelli called her boyfriend Peter Gilmartin and asked him to go to her apartment and check on her. Gilmartin entered to find her lifeless nude body laying on the floor, dead from multiple stab wounds to the chest, neck, and abdomen. An autopsy found that she had been raped and discovered the presence of semen from a man other than Gilmartin.
+
+It didn't take very long to suspect Kelly Rogers and he was brought in by police for questioning. Rogers readily confessed to stabbing Karen but said they had consensual sex. Her delivery car, an '84 Toyota Tercel, was found parked near Rogers's apartment. The fact that Karen had bruising and tearing around her anogenital region seemed to disprove his claim that sex had been consensual. Audra Todd later admitted he'd told her planned to rob the pizza delivery person and after he came back to the apartment, he drank wine, smoked crack, and told her he'd killed Karen.
+--- 14910206
+Rogers was quickly found guilty of first degree murder, rape, and robbery and sentenced to death. Audra, who had agreed to testify against him, received ten years for being an accomplice to murder. The jury's decision to seek the death penalty was motivated by the defendant's prior criminal history; he had been previously convicted of forgery, armed robbery, and escaping police custody; when the murder took place, he had been out of jail a mere five weeks.
+
+His stay on Oklahoma's death row was a relatively short one for modern standards; eight years before he met the executioner's needle on March 23, 2000. He appealed his sentence, saying he deeply regretted his crime but the Oklahoma parole board unanimously upheld his conviction and the Supreme Court refused to hear the case.
+--- 14911557
+>>14910180
+>>14910194
+>>14910206
+N
+--- 14911619
+>>14910180
+Remember a time when it was still possible to pay for college with a McJob and not have $190,000 in student loan debt?
+--- 14912240
+>>14906809
+Pennsylvania isn't Midwest you fucking fool
+--- 14912450
+Yeah it’s terrible in Oklahoma please don’t come here. Send your sisters here though.
+--- 14912463
+>>14912450
+>Send your sisters here though
+given that 80% of women there are spherical and the 20% of hot ones immediately move to California after high school...yeah

his/14904862.txt

@@ -57,3 +57,135 @@ They probably could have if they tried, free decision on their part not to. Spai
 >>14904868
 >Tools and technologies of spinning and weaving were similar to those of the Roman period
 Huh
+--- 14908235
+>>14907234
+Other culture. Also much more poorer than Europe.
+--- 14908248
+>>14904862 (OP)
+England was the first commercial partner of Spain in the 13th century:
+https://www.bristol.ac.uk/Depts/History/bristolrecordsociety/publications/childsanglo.pdf
+--- 14908288
+>>14904888
+>by wealthy farmers
+By wealthy merchants and landlords, but yea, same in Spain.
+--- 14908299
+>>14908288
+The farmers in England largely were the landlords. The nobility sold the land parcels for the most part. Obviously once a farmer or his family were successful enough they were basically merchants though
+--- 14908315
+>>14908299
+>The farmers in England largely were the landlords.
+No, farmers worked for their feudal landlords. And with a parcel of land you don't produce enough to build a church, you need a lot of parcels of land and obviously multiple employees, aka you needed to be a landlord to employ farmers.
+--- 14908860
+>>14908248
+Interesting link, thanks anon.
+A few months back I saw a sign on the town walls in Chester, in England, saying that in the medieval period ships even from Germany and Spain were arriving in Chester's port.
+Pretty interesting to think that ships from places that far away were travelling to a port on the north western side of England.
+--- 14908957
+>>14908860
+In the XIII century England was an essential commercial partner for Castile, Castile not only exported whool, but also fruit, cider, wine, cereal and iron. The ports of the bay of Biscay became quite rich in that time, pic of the church of Castrourdiales, that was built in the XIII century financed by the town merchants in the latest rannoyant gothic, inspired in the cathedral of Burgos. Castrourdiales at that time exported mostly to England. Also in that time spaniards were the biggest foreign population in England, there was spanish speaking communities in every southern port, specially in London, were entire streets were occupied by spanish merchants, and it was common to see spaniards selling their goods in the markets even in the interior of the country.
+--- 14909057
+>>14908315
+Serfdom was mostly phased out by the 1400’s in England due to the Black Death decimating the work force, and was formally abolished in 1574.
+
+I think we’re having a miscommunication. The successful farmers would buy more small parcels of land and move on to bossing around workers to farm for them. So yeah they were landlords in that sense.
+--- 14909064
+>>14909057
+>The successful farmers would buy more small parcels of land and move on to bossing around workers to farm for them.
+Very few cases. Of course some farmers became wealthy, but a minority. Most farmers continued to be poor.
+--- 14909066
+>>14907005
+why didnt ireland?
+--- 14909069
+>>14909066
+Britishers invaded them and stopped them becoming a superpower like India
+--- 14909110
+>>14909066
+Ireland was poorer, had little political relevance and its economy was nonexistent. England is very close to the Low Countries, while Ireland is far away of everything.
+--- 14909128
+>>14909066
+Because they were conquered by England. This is only politically though, Ireland overperformed greatly in terms of settling the new world relative to its population size.
+--- 14909129
+>>14908860
+Late in the 15th century Spain continued to be very present in England, the medieval merchant ship that was excavated in Newport was built in Spain.
+--- 14909361
+English wool fuelled the rise of Florence in the 14th century. Florentine merchant-bankers were allowed tax exemptions, and the right to collect wool export taxes, in return for loans to the king (at least until the banking crash of the 1340s). It was shipped to Florence, processed in fulling mills powered by the Arno, cleaned, dyed and exported across Europe and the Middle East. Italian wool was only used for lower quality textiles for local sale.
+--- 14909598
+>>14907005
+Why didn't Denmark?
+--- 14909635
+>>14908957
+Yeah, England was usually Castile's biggest ally until the ascension of the Trastamara dynasty.
+--- 14909668
+>>14909598
+Denmark is not exactly on the Atlantic coast, it has no access to the sea that is not mediated by England. Even then, though, you could attribute the Vinland endeavour to them.
+--- 14909671
+>>14909361
+>>The wool trade was a major driver of enclosure (the privatisation of common land) in English agriculture, which in turn had major social consequences, as part of the British Agricultural Revolution.
+>>Among the lasting monuments to the success of the trade are the 'wool churches' of East Anglia and the Cotswolds; the London Worshipful Company of Clothworkers; and the fact that since the fourteenth century, the presiding officer of the House of Lords has sat on the Woolsack, a chair stuffed with wool.
+similar stuff with Castillian wool going to Dutch Jews
+--- 14910439
+>>14909361
+Why was British wool better than Italian or other continental wools? The alps are definitely colder if that stimulates a thicker coat.
+--- 14910543
+>>14910439
+British wool wasn't good, but it was produced in mass. Spanish merino whool was the best one and still is.
+--- 14910657
+>>14910439
+>>14910543
+Merino wool came later.
+
+From an article:
+>up to the sixteenth century, English assertions of producing Europe’s finest wools were no patriotic conceit. As Van Uytven has noted, ‘the superiority of English wool was a commonplace in medieval literature’. Furthermore, recent archaeological evidence from late-medieval woollen fabrics discovered in Novgorod substantiates those literary claims. Not only were these English wools by far the finest found there, but they were so fine (17 to 24 microns) that they ‘were comparable only to the present-day wool of the merino sheep’.
+>The best English wools were then by far the most expensive, as were the textiles made from them; and such high market prices presumably do reflect their superior quality.
+
+>In Florence and Prato, in 1396–98, the best Spanish wools, priced at 14.50 florins per 100 lb., were worth only 41.2 per cent of the Cotswolds wools, which sold there for 35.17 florins per 100 lb. Another Prato wool-price schedule of the 1390s similarly priced Spanish wools (£21 0s. 06. affiorino) at just 41 per cent of the value of the English wools listed here. At Genoa, in March 1395, Spanish wools cost 10 lire per cantaro, compared to 26–30 lire for English wools (including Cotswolds, at 26–28 lire) per contaro.
+
+>medieval England produced a wide variety of wools, from very fine to very coarse. In a classic study, Bowden contended that, because (in his view) medieval England had lacked distinctly defined sheep breeds, the very finest wools, with very short-stapled and curly fibres, were therefore essentially the consequence of environmental factors, chiefly a combination of a moist, chilly climate and sparse feeding to be found: first, in the Welsh Marches of Herefordshire (Leominster, especially) and Shropshire; and, for the second-best qualities, in the Cotswolds district of neighbouring Gloucestershire, Worcestershire, Oxfordshire, and Berkshire.
+--- 14910665
+>>14909129
+Video related
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JheJnSFBXfk [Embed]
+--- 14912025
+>>14910543
+>Spanish merino whool was the best one and still is.
+Do they even have a textil industry, to begin with?
+--- 14912167
+>>14909598
+They tried and got blown the fuck out. Even then they managed to have a colony in India for like 250 years.
+--- 14912185
+>>14912167
+From Wikipedia
+> While throughout the 18th century, Danish exports of enslaved Africans accounted for about 5 percent of the total exports from the Gold Coast, by the 1780s, this was up to 10 percent.
+--- 14912214
+>>14909064
+I’d say most of the wealthy merchants originated as farmers. Then they’d typically try to buy into nobility to become a lord
+--- 14912215
+>>14907234
+Sultan Ahmad al-Mansur actually wanted it.
+
+>Al-Mansur also wrote about reconquering al-Andalus for Islam back from the Christian Spanish. In a letter of 1 May 1601, he wrote that he also had ambitions to colonize the New World and settle it with Moroccans. He envisioned that Islam would prevail in the Americas and the Mahdi would be proclaimed from the two sides of the oceans.
+
+He was doing preparations for it, then he died and his sons were fucking incompetent, so thing happened after it.
+--- 14912219
+>>14910439
+English land was just especially suited for grazing sheep. Most of the specialised types of wool like Merino weren’t even around yet so it was more about quantity than some higher quality
+--- 14912268
+Comfy thread. Hope it lasts.
+--- 14912755
+>>14912219
+>>14910657
+Very interesting thanks. I've been to Herefordshire and the SW and the soil there is good, the landscape gentle, not at all the kinds of places I'd associate with sheep grazing today. Just goes to show how important of a cash product it must have been back then to 'waste' that arable land.
+--- 14912951
+In times of national crisis, it sometimes helps to put things into words. In 1941, declaring that “highly civilised human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me”, George Orwell sat down to compose The Lion and the Unicorn, a classic essay on “the English genius”. He observed, with his usual astringency, that “We call our islands by no less than six different names, England, Great Britain, the British Isles, the United Kingdom and, in very exalted moments, Albion”
+
+1209 was the tipping-point in the making of the England we know today. This was the year when a Shropshire knight, commissioned by the crown, killed the last wolf in the western shires, sponsoring an ovine bonanza.
+
+Landholding became commercial: sheep plus grass equals gold.
+--- 14912962
+Why is a thread about wool farmers the most interesting thing on this board right now
+--- 14912963
+in reality the famous british wool was irish, the british landholders could produce it enmasse because they sheared irish people
+even welsh sometimes mistaken sheep for irish women
+--- 14912980
+>>14906486
+>Ya’ll got that cheap wool? I need a blanket

his/14906680.txt

@@ -432,3 +432,114 @@ Silly christcuck. It was never established that we were talking about the verb.
 This follows from the premise that pleasure or pain of taking a step depends on the circumstances, which you have yet to disprove.
 
 I accept your concession.
+--- 14907760
+>>14907235
+>do you experience pleasure in heaven?
+>heh I don't experience pleasure the verb
+Pleasure as a verb is a TRANSITIVE verb, you dumb fuck. You can't "experience pleasure (v.)". The verb pleasure requires an OBJECT.
+--- 14908566
+Originally, YHVH was a member of the El's pantheon, eventually superseding / combining with El in later scriptures.
+Exodus 15:11
+>Who among the gods is like you, LORD? Who is like you-- majestic in holiness, awesome in glory, working wonders?
+
+
+YHVH also originally had a Goddess consort, Asherah, whose worship was later forbidden.
+Deuteronomy 16:21
+>Do not set up any wooden Asherah pole beside the altar you build to the LORD your God
+
+The name Jealous emerged because YHVH was both metaphorically and tangibly (through his exiled followers) fighting against other Gods - whom he borrowed descriptions from (see the Ugaritic Baal Cycle).
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZECezMYug8c [Embed]
+--- 14908576
+>>14908566
+Exodus 34:14
+>For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
+
+Ask yourself, why would YHVH be jealous if he was the only / most powerful God in his pantheon?
+--- 14908613
+>>14906680 (OP)
+misunderstood good angels (metaphysical forces), demons (fallen angels or an alien being from outer space), deified humans (that are either good people or bad people, not always bad, some even can be taken example for example Alexander the Great had a knightly virtue), natural phenomena worshipped as deities, cult images that became deities and similar phenomena.
+Question: Where did they came from?
+Question 2: Isn't a where they came from would be a greater thing, therefore should be followed instead of what is created/emerged from it?
+So, therefore; only atheism, monotheism, deism and agnosticism makes sense because they can answer these questions without falling into sophistry
+--- 14908638
+>>14908613
+Considering Judeo-Christian monotheism emerged from Canaanite polytheism, that argument doesn't really hold water
+--- 14908742
+>>14906691
+>people started an entire discussion based on a complete misreading of this post
+As a textual criticism fag I find this to be kino as fuck
+--- 14908967
+>>14906863
+Literally not now karma works but keep justifying worshipping a dead kike and Israel you cuck lol
+--- 14909366
+I have reached Gnosis
+--- 14909387
+>>14906790
+And don't even get me started about Job
+--- 14909414
+>>14909387
+>God kills Job's entire family
+>Gives him a mew one
+>"There, all better now :)"
+>All of this because of a bet with Satan
+And this is supposed to be the book to tackle the suffering problem directly. Religion is weird.
+--- 14909513
+>>14906680 (OP)
+All gods are pretty much correct
+--- 14909515
+>>14906860
+Dude needs to get assraped
+--- 14909633
+>>14906680 (OP)
+Why should we care about what pagans and atheshits say? Pretty clear you aren't gonna change our mind nor are we gonna change yours
+--- 14909659
+>>14909633
+>Let's me be retarded
+--- 14909680
+>>14906842
+I can't in good conscience condone s god who decided jews would be his chosen people in the first place.
+--- 14909913
+>>14906842
+>replaced Jews as God's chosen people
+>don't actually commit to any of the laws the chosen people are expected to abide by
+--- 14909927
+>>14906731
+>There must be only one way to make bread
+--- 14909932
+>>14909366
+Hello fellow druid
+--- 14909944
+>Hello fellow druid
+--- 14910272
+>>14906723
+Close, but untrue. El got his idol jacked by some rival desert dwellers and ever since he's been coping by larping as Yahweh (who didn;t have an idol).
+--- 14910696
+>>14906680 (OP)
+>/his/ - Christianity & Niggers
+--- 14910715
+>>14906680 (OP)
+>there are many interpretation of how the universe was created, but don't worry, only yours, the big bang, is right.
+--- 14910803
+>>14910715
+It's the one with the most evidence. You's has zero. All can Chriscucks do is wait for science to discover something new they would have never be able to figure out for themselves, then claim God did it.
+--- 14910842
+>>14906680 (OP)
+Categorical error. Also fat Buddha isn't Siddhartha and Siddhartha isn't a god to be worshipped
+--- 14910907
+>>14906814
+>You believe in jewish mythos.
+Metaphysically, God and His Word doesn't belong to Jews and never did. They simply were selected to receive it first, it's technically for everyone.
+--- 14910934
+>>14907074
+Theologically, some say both. Orthodox for example understand the fire of God's Love is the same fire as His Wrath, and the only difference is your personal disposition to it. Like a hug from your hot aunt vs your creepy uncle
+--- 14910958
+>>14907197
+You're trying to fuck angels dude. Stop
+--- 14910975
+>>14908566
+>>14908576
+>I suck at anthropology 
+Lemme guess, you also think there's failed prophecies in the Bible because you don't realize that prophecies are considered conditional in the ancient near east?
+--- 14911863
+>>14906717
+Because they weren't fanatical hunch-brains!

his/14906812.txt

@@ -49,3 +49,102 @@ The national Republican Party forgot about New England after the 80s because the
 --- 14907044
 >>14906812 (OP)
 Nixon's victory here seems more impressive than Reagan's victory in 1984.
+--- 14908004
+>>14906828
+Well, it's OUR dick, after all
+--- 14908006
+>>14906812 (OP)
+Subhuman Irishmen
+--- 14908014
+>>14906812 (OP)
+Because MA is far more atheist and catholic than most states in the US
+--- 14908189
+>>14906812 (OP)
+It had one of the most successful democrat immigrant party machines built on government spending to buy votes. The state is massively in debt because of this
+--- 14908255
+>>14907044
+>1984
+>Reagan wins
+>UK faces highest inflation rate under Thatcher
+>Soviet Union on the brink of collapse
+History is kino sometimes
+--- 14908269
+>>14908014
+Irish aren’t Catholic
+--- 14908797
+I think it was only a couple years ago when a Kennedy lost an election in MA for the first time ever. They're like those rotten boroughs in 18th century England with a Parliamentary MP representing a village of 10 people.
+--- 14908903
+>>14906983
+>be "high IQ"
+>refuse to breed and be replaced by foreigners
+this might surprise you, anon, but going extinct is not how you prove your superiority
+--- 14910073
+>>14906812 (OP)
+irish people
+--- 14910188
+>>14906973
+the state does not elect republican state legislators, they don't even run a full slate of candidates
+and neither do the greens or anyone else, there's a disturbing tendency here for corrupt machine politicians to hold their seats basically for life unopposed
+--- 14911425
+>>14906973
+Massachusetts Republicans are far to the left of what would be considered Republican anywhere else in the country.
+--- 14911657
+>>14906973
+>the state elects Republican governors and
+Five of the last seven governors in fact, but as proof of the split with national elections Mitt Romney handily lost his own state in 2012.
+--- 14911700
+>>14911657
+yeah Obama won it 60% of the vote so he never really got close. as others have said the national Republican Party basically forgot about New England in the 80s-90s once they'd secured the South's votes. it's not a major loss because the region is unimportant and demographically stagnant nowadays.
+--- 14911710
+>>14906812 (OP)
+After Catholic Al Smith's presidential run, Catholics were a solid Democratic voting block for generations. After the Kennedys, even more so. Nowadays, White Catholics have drifted towards the Republicans, but in their place are Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, etc.
+--- 14911717
+>>14911700
+New england aren't real white people, they're all eurotrash and vote blue, you know this which is why you bring up a literal who facade of a political movement
+--- 14911729
+>>14906983
+>niggers
+say this around your liberal friends and see what their "high iq" makes them do
+--- 14911752
+>>14911710
+The Irish had been a solid Democrat bloc since the 19th century and were the godfathers of corrupt big city machine politics. By the time Al Smith ran for president they'd passed their peak and Italians were starting to overtake them in political influence.
+--- 14911759
+>>14911710
+>White Catholics have drifted towards the Republicans, but in their place are Hispanics, Blacks
+Those are also moving Republican since Trump.
+--- 14911849
+>>14906812 (OP)
+Two words: Kennedy Family
+--- 14911856
+>>14911729
+Most of those people can’t physically fight so they use feminine ways of fucking people over through gossip and lawsuits and calling the cops
+--- 14911902
+>>14906933
+>James Curley who was the first Irish mayor of Boston openly bragged that the old line New Englanders couldn't compete with their prodigious birthrate
+
+My non-scientific observation has lead me to believe that New Englanders didn't so much compete with them, as follow a "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" strategy, literally.
+--- 14911911
+>>14911902
+Irish machines didn't let anybody near them that wasn't irish, eventually in the early 1900's they started giving other immigrant groups patronage but nothing like they gave themselves, until they eventually collapsed after prohibition due to the mob taking over the political circus in the inner cities
+--- 14912120
+Massachusetts flipped to the Democrats at a presidential level in 1928 due to supercharged Catholic turnout for Al Smith, who was an Irish Catholic who ran on repealing Prohibition, and stayed Democratic as urban Catholics and Jews became the backbone of the Democratic coalition. Once Republicans started shedding support among their traditional Yankee WASP base in New England in the 1960s, that only made Massachusetts more Democratic.
+--- 14912202
+>>14912120
+the New England states were still at least somewhat purple through the 80s and the Republican presence there only disappeared during the Clinton years however this was true of the Northeastern states in general.
+--- 14912264
+>>14912202
+Right, the shift didn't happen overnight in the same way that the white South didn't flip Republican overnight. Those processes both started in the 1960s (arguably earlier for the South, with Eisenhower winning Texas and Virginia in both of his runs
+--- 14912388
+>>14907044
+Nixon did win more counties than Reagan so in a way his victory is certainly more impressive. Also how did Nixon win Cook County? Was McGovern that shit of a candidate?
+--- 14912406
+>>14912388
+Big city Democrat mayors and organized labor disowned McGovern because he had led efforts to reform the Democrat primary system after they'd coronated Hubert Humphrey despite Eugene McCarthy having won most of the '68 primaries.
+--- 14912425
+Prior to the New Deal era Massachusetts was anything but a Democrat state. The Yankee WASP ruling class had always associated the Democrat Party with corruption, mob rule, and slavery. It was the one-time Federalist heartland eventually Republican. That it shifted Democrat beginning in the 1930s was due to the invasion of Ellis Islanders who didn't care about 19th century political dynamics.
+--- 14912491
+>>14912425
+Vermont in that time was also an extremely red state while New Hampshire, Maine, Connecticut, and Rhode Island were a little more purple though mostly Republican-dominated during the Gilded Age.
+--- 14912581
+>>14911849
+I'm thinking this desu, and just the general Portland/Seattle syndrome of being a white city that is full of latte liberal white guilt types

his/14907121.txt

@@ -4,3 +4,34 @@ Why were the Greeks fixated on cultivating masculinity?
 --- 14907221
 >>14907121 (OP)
 Aryan EHG ancestry.
+--- 14908426
+>>14907121 (OP)
+They found it hot
+--- 14908429
+>>14907121 (OP)
+What culture was not fixated on that
+--- 14908433
+>>14908429
+some cuck culture OP is from, apparently
+--- 14908450
+>>14907121 (OP)
+Literally every civilization was
+
+What a retarded faggot post
+--- 14909984
+>>14907121 (OP)
+Greeks believed in balance; they thought that great wits also require a fit body as a counter balance. In essence, noble Greeks just didn't want to be faggot (pun intended) nerds.
+--- 14910011
+>>14909984
+what’s the pun
+--- 14910317
+>>14910011
+le gayreeks
+--- 14911498
+>>14907121 (OP)
+Every culture that ever amounts to anything cultivates it's masculine. All cultures that become more feminine through androgynization decay and rot away, collapsing inwards or being conquered by a masculine foreign group. This is a universal truth since before the dawn of civilization, and it doesn't take a particularly intelligent or wise person to see this truth.
+--- 14911505
+>>14908429
+>>14908450
+This.
+/thread

his/14907127.txt

@@ -8,3 +8,398 @@ Cringe, the whole thing should belong to Mongolia
 This was basically 1930's pre-war China and OP's thread has historical precedent. I hope you're right OP.
 --- 14907163
 Taiwan claims Tibet and Mongolia
+--- 14908148
+I love these out of touch balkanisation maps.
+
+>>14907127 (OP)
+>>14907158
+>Manchuria
+>Mongolia
+You do realise those are majority Chinese regions now? They have no reason to leave if you give everyone a vote.
+
+And you've also given Tibet several majority Chinese regions. East Turkestan? Gonna have a civil War at best if you claim all that.
+--- 14908155
+I have my doubts about this OP
+--- 14908157
+>>14907127 (OP)
+What is the Russian Republic and what's different between it and the current Russian Federation?
+--- 14908170
+>>14908155
+It's the kind of map that every anti-China person posts, with very little understanding of the demographics. Which is why I laugh when I hear that one Uighur dude call for the Chinese to go 'South of the Shanhai Pass where they originally belong' while simultaneously saying they want to co-exist with the Chinese. That shit don't work unless you want to roll history back to the 1600s and remove the Qing from existence.
+
+Either these people read some crap as dumb as Chinese nationalist material, or they are calling for a genocide, and unironically think an ethnic cleansing would work.
+
+To which I must ask- guess who has the guns? Now ask yourself what would happen in a War.
+--- 14908174
+>>14908170
+Other dumb shit I've read is some Manchurian Nationalist/Monarchist use the old Five Colour Flag (NOT ethnic Manchu nationalism), while calling for a restoration of the Aisin-Gioro. The modern Aisin Gioro are compromised as fuck and members of the CCP.
+--- 14908183
+The wise mapmaker seeking to carve up and divide a country makes use of real and contemporary divides, rather than historical ones that are obsolete or otherwise based on wishful thinking.
+
+Tibet proper could, at a time of suitably catastrophic Chinese weakness and distraction, be taken over by India and its geopolitical orientation be changed completely.
+
+Taiwan also could be permanently separated from China. If an invasion doesn't happen in the next few decades, all Taiwan needs to do is wait for precisely the right moment at which China is not in a position to retaliate (that need only arise once in a generation) and a successful declaration of independence could be made.
+
+Hong Kong is realistically doomed in the long run, since it's a small territory and just a few hundred thousand mainland migrants being pumped in every few years is enough to weaken the local identity and boost the ranks of the DAB. Still, the majority opinion IS against Beijing as of today: and if something truly catastrophic were to happen to China tomorrow, a total change in the situation isn't inconceivable.
+--- 14908198
+>>14907127 (OP)
+>Manchuria
+>Inner Mongolia
+Both of these places are majority Han now, the Manchus barely even exist now and the language has been destroyed. If these two places didn’t immediately become some warlord’s fiefdom, they would reunite with China proper overnight. Independent Tartary would be cool thougheverbeit.
+--- 14908214
+>>14908198
+Manchuria, or Manchukuo can only exist as a multi-ethnic state. Even during their puppet state era they tried to pretend to be a multi-ethnic state. That is what the five-coloured flag actually represents, they just switched out the Tibetans and Uighurs for Japanese (friends) and Korean (friends). 
+
+To do that you'd need a region wide change of identity in the Northeast, something that barely exists unless all the old people there get really pissed off by the government. And yes old people. Northeast is the Rustbelt of China. Hardly the time to secede and more likely to be bitching they don't get enough pension or there's too many blacks kissing Chinese now.
+--- 14908422
+>>14908148
+>>14908170
+
+>lmao Manchuria cant exist because its the same ethnicity
+
+>What do you mean Austria and Germany are two seperate nations?
+--- 14908428
+>>14908214
+>there's too many blacks kissing Chinese now
+
+Hello, American.
+--- 14908434
+>>14907127 (OP)
+Why would you want to balkanise China?
+You Americans cheered when the Soviet Union collapsed and it made the world even more unstable and dangerous.
+--- 14908444
+>>14907127 (OP)
+Quintesentially anglodite post. Divide and rule eurasia? It wont work this time
+>>14907131
+Yes, Ukraine should conquer Russia and Belarus that also works
+>>14907158
+China will grow big
+--- 14908445
+>>14907127 (OP)
+
+
+What's the implication of china moving up the value chain and compete directly with western companies? 
+The next 10 years will see chinese companies reduce American companies' profit margins to zero.
+--- 14908462
+>>14908422
+Kek, based. Be careful, anon, you might collapse the brainlet of the retards in this thread.
+--- 14908466
+>>14908445
+Westerners seething and attempting to stiffle chinese technology by trying to block high tech components... Which just prompts China to develop their own
+Already happened with microchips and they are setting up their own production now and trying to leapfrog ahead of the west
+--- 14908468
+>>14908434
+Both America and China should balkanize. So should Russia. Every single country on this godforsaken planet should. Even fucking Belgium or Switzerland.
+--- 14908530
+>>14908468
+
+In fact, even Luxemburg, Andorra, and the fucking Vatican State should !!!
+--- 14908546
+>>14908530
+Luxembourg sure, Andorra and the Vatican state are already at an ideal size.
+--- 14909023
+>>14908422
+Austria and Germany are only separate because they're forced to be after Germany lost a world war. Hitler marched into Austria and was greeted by cheers.
+--- 14909036
+>>14908422
+Considering how Austria willingly joined anschluss while other countries had to be annexed by force you're just proving his point
+--- 14909040
+Paradox games and their consequences have been a disaster for the autist race
+--- 14909053
+>>14909023
+Cope. Maybe he was greeted by a bunch of 1940's chuds but that's it.
+--- 14909080
+>>14909023
+>Killed Dolfuss
+>Coerced Austria into anschluss
+
+They were happy that they were not bombed to smithereens. Austrians never truly wished to be under g*rmoid rule and always cheered on their sense of independence and autonomy from G*rmany. Imagine thinking a people with a strong catholic monarchist tradition would want to be under a sick, suicidal, warmongering mostly pr*ttie nation 
+ Fucking nationalists and their sick delusions.
+--- 14909116
+>>14907127 (OP)
+>independent tibet
+Chiang-Kai‐shek-niggers are even worse than commies
+--- 14909142
+>>14907127 (OP)
+Yunan is less Chinese than manchuria but most HOI4 players wouldn't know that
+--- 14909262
+>>14907127 (OP)
+almost this
+>manchuria and korea to japan
+>tibet is one with bhutan and nepal
+>mongolia is one as well
+>hong kong to britain
+>macau to portugal
+--- 14909273
+>No one has said to give it all to Japan
+I miss when this was a weeb website
+--- 14909376
+>>14909053
+>>14909080
+Nice same faggot post, the people of Austria voted to join Germany and were forcefully partitioned by occupying armies.
+
+Why are allied powercels chronic liars bros?
+--- 14909397
+>>14909376
+>voted to join Germany
+>with this ballot
+--- 14909449
+>>14909397
+What ballot did the allied occupiers give the people of Austria?
+
+Also the preunification Austrian government was seriously considering restoring the inbred, cousin fucking, Hapsburgs who just got BTFO in the Great War and had their empire collapse into ethnic infighting.
+--- 14909452
+>>14909376
+Dumb chud fuck. Fuck off.
+--- 14909459
+>>14909449
+>Also the preunification Austrian government was seriously considering restoring the inbred, cousin fucking, Hapsburgs who just got BTFO in the Great War and had their empire collapse into ethnic infighting.
+
+Sounds great. Much better than unifying with a pr*ssia dominated shithole like g*rmany.
+--- 14909470
+>>14909459
+Go jack off to more incest porn you inbred yokel
+--- 14909475
+>>14908428
+Can you imagine them having sex or something, anon?
+--- 14909480
+>>14909080
+>>14909459
+The Allies after WW1 literally had to force Austria to sign a treaty stating it wouldn't attempt to reunify with Germany after WW1
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Saint-Germain-en-Laye_(1919)
+Read a book or fuck off back to /vst/
+--- 14909766
+>>14909480
+So what?? That was just in case they became retarded and wanted to unify with g*rmany. Didnt mean they wanted to.
+>fuck off back to /vst/
+Kek was actually on /vst/ a few min ago not gonna lie, I'll give you that.
+--- 14909789
+>>14909036
+
+It actually proves MY point, because op scenario is that China is divided DUE to a war, so the enforced Austrian separation of Versailles only mirrors op scenario. 
+
+Only thing Americans need to do during the aftermath of this war is to make sure no Ching Chong Hitler rises to power and tries to unify Manchuria with China.
+Eventually they will developed their own identity, just as Macedonians and Austrians and Norwegians and Belarusian.
+--- 14909887
+>>14909789
+We would nuke the earth before allowing that to happen. A world without China is not one worth existing
+--- 14909909
+>>14909766
+Well, they were retarded then because that's what they wanted to do prior to the treaty (and after it as well)
+>Kek was actually on /vst/ a few min ago not gonna lie, I'll give you that.
+Yeah, it's easy to tell from your shitposting about "le f*ckin g*rms"
+--- 14909918
+how to balkanize china forever:
+1. romanize the language
+2. break it up along "dialect" lines
+50 years time none of them will be able to understand each other, the kids won't know how to read characters, any ethnic link they had will be irrelevant
+--- 14909943
+>>14909918
+>Ethnic link
+
+They barely have any, have you seen what "han" chinese actually are?? Just a generic term for a fuckload of actual ethnicities. It's like calling "western european" an ethnicity. China are larping retards.
+--- 14910468
+>>14909943
+>It's like calling "western european" an ethnicity.
+Which it is
+--- 14910490
+>>14910468
+Oh, didnt know a sicilian was the same as a dane. Or a galician the same as a finn. Fucking retard.
+--- 14910498
+>>14908422
+>What do you mean Austria and Germany are two seperate nations?
+what a retarded comparison to make
+--- 14910508
+>>14910490
+More or less
+The inability to see this led to the collective suicide of European civilization in the world wars
+--- 14910523
+>>14910508
+
+A separation of Germany and Austria was originated from and enforced by a peace treaty.
+Germany and Ausria has the same ethnic population.
+
+OP presents a map of China and Manchuria separated as a result from an enforced peace treaty.
+China and Manchuria has the same ethnic population.
+
+Why is it a retarded comparison to make?
+--- 14910539
+>>14907127 (OP)
+You are insane, dude. Han Chinese people are the majority in all of those provinces (especially Greater Tibet, like lmao). If those countries were free, the Han Chinese majority would take power democratically and simply peacefully reunify with China. 
+Mongolia is particularly egregious. Not only are Mongolians outnumbered ~5mil - 1mil in Inner Mongolia, but there are only ~3.5 million Mongolians *in* Mongolia. Mongolians would become a minority in their own country, just by annexing a single Chinese province. 
+Even if the Han Chinese people went along with this and decided to take up horse-riding or something, "China" would still be a nation of some 800+ million people, including most of the industrialized and wealthy regions. China would still remain as a foremost power in the region.
+China has split and reunified countless times over its history. Even if you somehow did split it up again, how will you stop it from reunifying - permanently?
+--- 14910555
+>>14910523
+A bavarian has nothing to do with a holateiner, faglord.
+--- 14910564
+>>14909766
+I mean imagine if Canada collapsed and everything besides Ontario was lost to a foreign power. It wouldn't be unthinkable that Canadians would want to unify with the United States and regain the benefits of being apart of a great power.
+This is further compounded because of the radical Socialism in Austria at the time (Vienna was actually called "Red Vienna") and the Socialist regime in Hungary.
+Remember, lastly, that Germany was a very new country as well at the time. Incorporating an additional German province isn't really that strange. 
+Ultimately, though, you are correct that it wasn't a wholly voluntary affair and it wouldn't have happened without military intervention. National Socialist Austrians assassinated their Fascist dictator, who had been aligned with Mussolini against Hitler - interestingly. It made a lot of sense for the countries to unify, but every power in Europe was working to stop it + the Austrians didn't really want it.
+--- 14910566
+>>14910555
+Holsteiner*
+
+>>14910508
+The world wars were caused by a mix of nationalism, secularism, protestantism, centralism and socialism. Europe must become a highly decentralized catholic civilization if it ever wants to thrive again.
+--- 14910581
+>>14910523
+Because Austria was enjoying a continuous sovereignty that lasted for hundreds of years prior. Austria was never split off from Germany, but prohibited to join it.
+"Germany" does not have authority to unilaterally annex all German-speaking countries. Just because you LARP as *the* German state doesn't mean you actually are, and it doesn't mean countries like Austria, Luxembourg, Switzerland, or Lichtenstein have to join you. 
+OP's proposal is to force a province to separate from the main body, based on it being a separate "country" - what, before the Qing Dynasty? Insofar as Jurchen savages can even be a country lol. Or do you mean under Japan's illegal puppet regime? The people of Manchuria have no reason to go along with this. If you give them an ounce of freedom, they will vote to reunify with China itself - assuming China is also free, I suppose.
+--- 14910586
+>>14907127 (OP)
+Oh look, yet another retarded anglofag carving up land without any regard for anything
+--- 14910606
+>>14910586
+They are really trying to square the circle with handling China. Realistically, the country's is too strong to be broken up. We could barely hope to win a conventional war with China and it would utterly break the American world order to fight it. 
+Our best bet is to keep China in its box and hope it succumbs to infertility. The issue is that China will see the writing on the wall and realize that they must make a move while they still can.
+--- 14910612
+>>14910606
+>it would utterly break the American world order to fight it.
+you're kidding right
+one bomb on the three gorges dam and half of china loses power
+--- 14910637
+>>14910612
+The 3GD can survive a nuclear blast. In the worst case scenario they can also just adjust Baihetan or Gezhouba which are upstream/downstream. Finally in that event every US city is getting nuked, and the Mississippi is getting salt bombed and irradiated.
+--- 14910671
+>>14910612
+Basically:
+War... War has changed. The last real naval war was fought almost a century ago in the Pacific. It was during that war that nation's saw the incredible power of aircraft. No longer would the sea be ruled from the waves, but from the sky.
+Naval warfare has evolved once again. Today, the sea is ruled from the land. Anti-ship ballistic missiles are brutally effective. With a single strike, they can obliterate billions of dollars in naval hardware and kill hundreds or even thousands of soldiers. Even a second-rate power like Ukraine, when equipped with Western hardware, was able to easily sink Russian vessels. The losses from a single successful strike are so high that the enemy is forced to abandon all but the safest naval actions. 
+Now consider America's position. The entire strait to Taiwan can be covered with anti-ship missiles, as well as the entire Chinese coast. We cannot properly engage with the Chinese mainland, nor can we close the maritime corridor to Taiwan's western coast (which is the only portion appropriate for an amphibious assault). We also cannot bottle up the Chinese navy, just as the Germans could not be bottled up in the last world war; their raiders will be able to harass any supply conveys we send to Taiwan with impunity.
+The worst part, however, is actually in Korea. At any time, the North Koreans could launch an assault. We cannot push north, because they will utilize nuclear weapons against us. For the entire course of the war, we will be forced to maintain a proper defense in South Korea, while waging this huge war with China. 
+Now, remember the numerous domestic issues that America is gripped with. We are spending about 10% of our expenses on simply interest to the debt and it will only increase as our debt balloons to genuinely ridiculous proportions. We simply CANNOT afford to build fleets and send them at China. We are broke before the war even started, like Britain was in WW2.
+--- 14910700
+>>14907127 (OP)
+NIGGER
+--- 14910720
+>>14910606
+>Our best bet is to keep China in its box and hope it succumbs to infertility.
+This but reversed. All China has to do is avoid direct war with the West for the next 30 or so years, sit back and watch the West slowly weaken and collapse in on itself due to internal forces. The day we elect our first trans non-binary president is the day China takes Taiwan.
+--- 14910726
+>>14910671
+>With a single strike, they can obliterate billions of dollars in naval hardware and kill hundreds or even thousands of soldiers.
+Not necessarily the case yet but I suspect this will become increasingly true going forward and the Ukraine incident you mentioned is a good portender
+--- 14910739
+>>14910606
+>Our best bet is to keep China in its box and hope it succumbs to infertility.
+I still think China is better off with a lower population than the USA will be with importing infinity spics and nigs
+--- 14910749
+>>14907127 (OP)
+>>14908148
+>>14908170
+>>14910539
+
+East Turkestan will be free. And it will be glorious.
+--- 14910757
+>>14910749
+Your turkroach cousins will disappear from existence
+--- 14910784
+>>14910749
+JIHAD ON CHICOMS
+--- 14910792
+>>14907127 (OP)
+>outer memegolia
+>>>memechuria
+>>>>>implying china would give up western china (always has been)
+>>>>>>>>tibet
+--- 14910815
+>>14910720
+China has just as many internal issues if not worse ones. For example, their industrial capacity has already peaked. While they are certainly developing their tech sector and service industries and their economy is still growing, their ability to produce military hardware will likely never be higher (unless they commit to radical proposals to increase it). Look at other countries in East Asia like Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan. All of them are staring down a fertility apocalypse where they lose half their population with each generation. A nation that loses half its population each generation can barely survive, let alone fight massive wars with millions of deaths. 
+By contrast, America's industry will increase indefinitely and its industrial base is actually make a small return. 
+Right now, China is at the near-peak of its population, has reached peak industrial capacity, and has a surplus of ~55 million Chinese men. Right now is the moment for China to take Taiwan. That is precisely why I'm terrified.
+--- 14910834
+>>14910523
+>Why is it a retarded comparison to make?
+A millennia of being a mostly uninterrupted state, that Austria for hundreds of years had loose authority over the area that would later become Germany through a legitimate institution. Getting completely smashed in ww1 and reduced to current borders those people were done and would rather deal with their own kind after centuries of putting up with a bunch of different nationalities that largely got them nowhere so it can't be blamed they wanted to fold into Germany especially without a Habsburg monarch to try and stop it. There is precedence besides wanting to stick it to Germany for them being independent. The Manchu hillbilly tribes by way of might makes right btfo'd Ming and incorporated their territory into that existing state becoming the Qing. Now Manchuria is full of pure blooded Han mutts as is most of China. Those peoples ancestors(well not all of them) did not rule over a Manchurian state because they were down south in China proper. If you went in there and ripped the two apart like the pic, unless A. a best korea/south korea situation arises or B. its heavily enforced by outside forces which will probably make the two parts want to reunify even more. Other than that they'd probably try to reintegrate in a number of ways over time if left to their own devices. What's left of the Manchu might like that, but they're a minority in their land.
+--- 14910855
+>>14907127 (OP)
+>Tibet
+Figures that “anti-communists” support literal pedophile
+--- 14910874
+>>14910720
+China is doomed, nigger. Their nation is a dead nation. Same with the rest of all the other nations. This is a dead planet and most people still havent woken up to that fact. There will be no China, no Russia, no America and no Europe a hundred years from now. Warring, mad maxian neo-feudalist tribes and statelets at most.
+--- 14910938
+>>14910874
+How so? Ocean acidification kills sea life and causes ecological collapse? Or microplastic bioamplification starts choking higher order organisms? Or some sort of nuclear catastrophe?
+--- 14910954
+TOTAL NON-HAN NIGGER DEATH
+TOTAL NON-HAN NIGGER DESTRUCTION
+--- 14910956
+>>14910855
+>MUH DALI LAMA
+
+Not an argument for colonization
+
+Get jihaded loser
+--- 14910969
+China would turn into a Han supremacist empire after total commie death, millions of minorities will die.
+--- 14910981
+Based Xi-sama will rule from Siberia to Moscow, from the arctic to Sydney or something
+--- 14910994
+>>14910938
+A synesthesic mix of several different factors. War, demographic collapse, economic collapse, climate change (naturally caused), ideological/political insanity, industrial chemical shit fucking up our biology, stuff like that. Not even taking into account unpredictable black swan events. 
+Enjoy this century, this is as far as human civilization, technology wise, will go.
+--- 14911027
+>>14910815
+>That is precisely why I'm terrified.
+
+Are you taiwanese/in taiwan?
+--- 14911066
+Total non-Han destruction after red China’s collapse
+--- 14911107
+Xi-Khan will recreate a Han-Mongolian empire
+--- 14911112
+>>14910956
+Here we see the effects of centuries of Islamic inbreeding
+--- 14911128
+>release another islamic shithole that will definitely not turn on you
+>release another religious shithole that will definitely not turn on you
+>piss off your allies by not rewarding them for their efforts and make a puppet state instead
+>strenghten a russian puppet state with your other hand
+>make a country that was born out of nationalism in ww2, definitely will end well
+why are chuds so fucking dumb and bad at geopolitics
+--- 14911138
+Tibetan human rights > Tibetan sovereignty 
+
+Lama was skinning people and shieet
+--- 14911177
+>>14911138
+Not an excuse of colonization
+
+Euroids can't claim the bad actions of previous regimes were justification for colonizing the world, just as China can not make the same claim.
+
+If you DO want to make that claim, then jihadi fighters from central Asia coming to slaughter chicoms is justified because communists are putting Muslims in concentration camps.
+
+So which one is it?
+--- 14911221
+>>14911177
+Whichever one is better for China of course.
+--- 14911242
+>>14911177
+>Not an excuse of colonization
+Why do we need an excuse "chud anon"?
+--- 14911249
+>>14911242
+Crying about the policies of pre-colonial Tibet is an excuse, so ask the person who made that post
+--- 14911260
+>>14911249
+>Crying about the policies of pre-colonial Tibet
+Why would I cry about it? We destroyed them and liberated their serfs to become loyal to us. Then BTFO the Indians who tried to start shit. Nothing but total Chinese victory to celebrate
+--- 14911335
+>>14911260
+That's colonization, China must decolonize the region
+
+>beat India
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77gmc1WY49Y&t=4s [Embed]
+--- 14911612
+>>14911335
+Makes sense you're a pajeey. Can you tell me what happened in 1962?
+--- 14911616
+>>14911335
+>That's colonization, China must decolonize the region
+Why?

his/14907338.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,153 @@
+-----
+--- 14907338
+Latin or Germanic
+--- 14907340
+If it ain't German it ain't white
+--- 14907505
+>>14907338 (OP)
+Shitalian clay 100% Any argument for it being Germanic leads to walls of text of cope. (It's is very hard to come up with a definition of Germanic that has nothing to do with language and does not include Slavs as Germanic)
+>>14907340
+Proud to be unwhite.
+--- 14907644
+>>14907338 (OP)
+napoleon III was dutch though, mf doesn't even look like napolen
+--- 14908302
+white 
+latin
+germanic
+
+lets fight to the death over pointless-nothingchanging labels instead of uniting as europeans
+
+morons
+--- 14908329
+>>14907338 (OP)
+North is Germanic.
+South is Latin. 
+I demand a free Occitania.
+And someone fucking give Corsica to Italy already, what a travesty that shit is still going.
+--- 14908352
+Frankish elite, Gaulish peasantdom, Latin larp
+--- 14908365
+>>14908352
+Frankish Wannabe-Roman elite and Romanized Gaulish peasantdom. Latin larp indeed.
+In all fairness was there even a trace of Gaulish-ism Gaule by the time Rome fell?
+--- 14908369
+>>14907340
+Proud to be non white
+T. Briddish
+--- 14908388
+Celtic
+--- 14908393
+>>14908365
+i think gaulish was spoken in certain regions of france still, but not much, maybe some cultural synchretisms? french proper are gaul descended still.
+--- 14908480
+>>14908401
+imagine the smell.
+--- 14908547
+>>14907338 (OP)
+Germans themselves are half med in denial, just go down to Frankfurt and see what I’m saying
+--- 14908548
+>>14908329
+ok methinks based
+--- 14908630
+>>14908401
+And what of Wales?
+--- 14908681
+>>14908329
+Based.
+--- 14908696
+>>14908329
+northern french are mostly gaul
+--- 14908704
+>>14907338 (OP)
+I am Latin, and nothing you g*Rms say can ever change that, forestniggers
+--- 14908713
+>>14908696
+>Muh hablogops
+lollololololololololololololol
+--- 14908799
+>>14907338 (OP)
+>Charles de Gaulle is on record as stating his opinion that "For me, the history of France begins with Clovis, elected as king of France by the tribe of the Franks, who gave their name to France. Before Clovis, we have Gallo-Roman and Gaulish prehistory. The decisive element, for me, is that Clovis was the first king to have been baptized a Christian. My country is a Christian country and I reckon the history of France beginning with the accession of a Christian king who bore the name of the Franks."[16]
+--- 14908942
+>>14908630
+Wales and Cornwell is where elves and faeries are hiding, waiting to reclaim Albion from humans.
+--- 14908947
+>>14907340
+I might not be white but at least I am human unlike Krauts.
+--- 14909044
+>>14907340
+deep...
+--- 14909061
+>>14908329
+Absolutely based. Corsicans are literally just italians.
+--- 14909073
+Ethnic Gauls with a very few roman and german blood. Latin and catholic culture make the French identity.
+
+Add the celtic periphery like Britanny, the pre indo European like the Basque, the Italian like the Corsican and the German like the Flemish or the Alsatian.
+--- 14909540
+>>14907338 (OP)
+Germanic
+--- 14909653
+>>14907338 (OP)
+Celto-Latin
+--- 14909760
+>>14909061
+they could or couldn't be, italian is a made up ethnicity and nationality.
+as it stands today they're french.
+--- 14909899
+>>14909760
+>They speak italian
+>a variant of central italian to be exact
+>they have been historically linked to italy than thy ever have been linked to any part of france
+>But that doesn't matter becuse friuli and sicily or some shit. Now francify you stupid wop everyone must be included into globoparis.
+--- 14910516
+>>14908947
+Not white means there is a high chance you aren`t considered human by whites. 
+And the ancestors of the french are frogs.
+--- 14910730
+>>14907338 (OP)
+celtic in the north and central france
+germanic in the east
+latin in the south
+--- 14910807
+>>14908329
+Corsicans hardly consider themselves italians though
+--- 14910813
+>>14909653
+Germano-gaulish*
+--- 14910818
+>>14907338 (OP)
+Both
+--- 14910821
+>>14908547
+Imagine how delusional are rat-featured arabic moors to think they look remotely similar to dark haired germans kek
+--- 14911034
+>>14910821
+hummels look more iberian than german desu
+--- 14911050
+>>14911034
+It's weird that amerimutts delude themselves this hard into thinking anyone with tanned skin and a strong jawbone must be a med.
+--- 14911056
+>>14911050
+>strong jawbone must be a med.
+??? meds tend to have weak arab rat jaws similar to saudis, somalis and other bulbheaded oriental races
+--- 14911110
+>>14908799
+Wasn't this guy just an english puppet? Why did they name so many things after him?
+--- 14911115
+>>14908302
+>>>/pol/
+--- 14911142
+A bunch of Celts who cope with Germans and British calling them swathoids by comparing themselves to their latin Mediterranean neighbours in the South, from time to time they larp as Meds because they have the fetish of being liberal humanist renaissance artists or because they get to pretend to be Catholics by not daring to get fully involved with Lutherans / Calvinists like their neighbors to the north
+--- 14911157
+>>14911142
+>>14909540
+They aren't swarthy at all
+--- 14912159
+bump
+--- 14912393
+>>14909653
+Dat a Spanish
+--- 14912521
+>>14907338 (OP)
+French is so different from all other romance languages, it definitely must be highly Germanised.

his/14907974.txt

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+-----
+--- 14907974
+whats his endgame
+--- 14907980
+annihilate the brownoids
+--- 14908005
+>>14907980
+mordvix is asiatic brownoid mutt
+--- 14908009
+>>14907974 (OP)
+being an autistic gay alien with glasses, that's going well for him so far
+--- 14908072
+Fucking faggot
+--- 14908270
+>>14907974 (OP)
+Kurgan burial in Ukraine just like his ancestors.
+--- 14908632
+Mordvix, you will never be a R1b. You have no history, you have no art, you have no culture. You are a subhuman and homosexual creature twisted by delusions and historical revisionism into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
+All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back R1b mock you. Historians are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
+Ancient R1b are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed R1b to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even R1a snowniggers who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a REAL man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk R1b to be friends with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected "culture".
+You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
+Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a R1a sl*ve is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably a R1a serf snownigger.
+This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
+--- 14908804
+>>14908632
+You wouldn't happen to be Indian by any chance
+--- 14910048
+>>14907974 (OP)
+literally who
+--- 14910104
+>>14907974 (OP)
+>>14908005
+>>14907980
+Funny thing he looks nothing like Yamnaya he larps as
+--- 14910130
+>>14910104
+>Darktroon enters the chat
+Stop photoshopping pictures so that they are darker than they actually are you mentally ill freak.
+--- 14910260
+total annihilation of alpine serfs
+--- 14910300
+What the fuck is this thread about? Is this some discord meme?
+--- 14910311
+>>14907974 (OP)
+What the fuck is this creature
+--- 14910316
+>>14910300
+About an ugly autistic incel
+>>14907974 (OP)
+Fuck he’s an ugly looking weirdo, no wonder he spends all his time sperging out here
+--- 14910324
+>>14910130
+You have no right to call anybody a mentally ill freak you fucking schizo. I dnt even know who this supposed darkwitch troon is but just by virtue of seeing your retarded and autistic dysgenic self spam the board, I'm on his side
+--- 14910344
+>>14910311
+He's a chud who likes to call people goblinito farming equipment
+--- 14910376
+>>14910344
+Hel also cals people shitalians, medlets and medbugs
+--- 14910400
+>>14910048
+>>14910300
+It's a russian autistic neo-nazi manlet incel who spams self-roleplay about being a steppe warrior raping everyone.
+--- 14910405
+>>14910300
+Currycel vs Slavcel
+--- 14910443
+>>14910300
+A slav and a indian have a beef. The indian has a whole discord of trannies arround trying to groom the slav now
+--- 14910534
+>14 posters
+Rent free.
+--- 14910545
+>>14910534
+Gay alien your starship has taken off without you
+--- 14910616
+>>14910534
+Aryan chad
+--- 14910621
+>>14907974 (OP)
+Total Hijra Humiliation.
+--- 14910672
+>>14907974 (OP)
+Since he can't get a job he will just post anti italian and other D&C threads every single day of his life in his mom's basement between posting naked pics of himself to 2ch. Eventually he'll realize that no woman wants to be with a gay alien mongolian and he'll eventually rope himself bringing a final sigh of relief to any human being unfortunate enough to be related to him in any way.
+--- 14910681
+>>14910672
+>D&C
+--- 14910683
+>>14910672
+>he looks like that and says that
+Based.
+--- 14910687
+>>14907974 (OP)
+Grow an inch
+--- 14910766
+>>14910681
+You will never be white, Ilya. Not in your wildest dreams.
+--- 14911121
+>>14907974 (OP)
+Is this seriously the guy posting all the X is not white threads?
+--- 14911213
+>>14911121
+Yes, it's pretty sad. But then again it was to be expected that a pretty subnormal, disturbed indivudal would be behind such behavior.
+>>14907974 (OP)
+Going back into the Oblivion character generator obviously
+--- 14911228
+>>14908009
+tpbp
+--- 14911230
+I really hate Russians, most seem mentally fucked in the head. Even for 4chan standards.
+--- 14911396
+>>14910104
+>>14910324
+mentally ill jeet
+you look nothing like the Aryans who dominated you
+you look nothing like ANE
+you have no blue eyed genes
+no blonde hair genes
+no fair skin genes
+you are a jungle adapted pseudo-abo who got lost on their migration to asstralia.
+--- 14911407
+>>14911396
+>has to say whatever genes because he doesn't have blue eyes blonde hair or fair skin himself
+--- 14911573
+>>14907974 (OP)
+>no muscle 
+>no jaw
+>no body hair 
+basically a tranny
+--- 14911582
+>>14911407
+>RACE IS EXCLUSIVELY COLOR
+really did a number on you referring to your poop skin?
+--- 14911588
+>>14911582
+>all caps
+chill out ivanova, it's not your fault you're a manlet tatar
+--- 14911637
+So what made darktroon so mad today? I'm gonna suggest there really were some Kshatriyas humiliating her in Michigan.
+--- 14912106
+>>14907974 (OP)
+Lmao if I saw this faggot irl I'd kick his ass and bully this school shooter autistic weirdo
+--- 14912324
+>>14908632
+>>14907974 (OP)
+I have no idea who this is but is this one of many persons that obsess over the hecking epic steppe people?
+--- 14912327
+>>14912324
+yea
+--- 14912633
+>>14907974 (OP)
+I don't get this twink manlet. One day he's shilling for Slavs, the other day he makes negative threads and negative posts about Poles.
+
+Is it borderline personality disorder? Or something else?

his/14908295.txt

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+-----
+--- 14908295
+Would it be correct to say that the Spanish Empire was also a Holy Roman Empire of sorts? Being a confederated supranational catholic monarchy and all.
+--- 14908297
+>>14908295 (OP)
+Would it be correct to say that your rectum is a penis-recepticle of sorts?
+--- 14908305
+Nothing after 49 BC was Rome.
+--- 14908320
+>>14908297
+Maybe. But your mom's is an absolute certainty. I've empirically proved it in loco.
+--- 14908324
+>>14908305
+Not the point/question, retard.
+--- 14908325
+>>14908320
+>Maybe.
+Source?
+--- 14908332
+>>14908295 (OP)
+No.
+--- 14908432
+>>14908332
+Wrong
+--- 14908440
+>>14908295 (OP)
+>Being a confederated supranational catholic monarchy and all.
+thats not the definition, the definition is being crowned as an Emperor. Official name of Spain in documents was "Kingdom of Spain" not "The Empire". Even Napoleon had better claims to be a HRE than Spain ever did, pope attending his coronation and referring to his state and law as "The Empire" in his excommunication letter and all.
+--- 14908495
+>>14908440
+That's just a "de jure" kind of shit. I'm talking about "de facto" stuff, my nigra.
+--- 14908503
+>>14908495
+>I'm talking about "de facto" stuff
+the problem is, only reason HRE existed and stayed alive was legalist autism
+--- 14909005
+Bump
+--- 14909777
+It was actually the true Holy Roman Empire, much more than those larping g*rmoids could ever wish to be
+--- 14909786
+>>14909777
+I haven't laughed at a post this hard in a long time
+--- 14910061
+>>14908295 (OP)
+
+
+NO.
+
+IT WAS A MONARCHICAL EMPIRE, NOT A MONARCHICAL CONFEDERATION; IT WAS THE HEIR OF ROMA, THOUGH.
+--- 14910111
+>>14908295 (OP)
+It wasn´t a confederation. Also viceroys served 4 years terms.
+--- 14910151
+>>14910061
+>>14910111
+
+The HRE was also an "Empire" nominally but actually worked as loose confederation. Same with the Spanish Empire. Most regions under it were highly autonomous, loosely united only by a common religion and monarch.
+--- 14910210
+>>14910151
+
+>The HRE was also an "Empire" nominally but actually worked as loose confederation. Same with the Spanish Empire.
+
+1. «SPANISH EMPIRE» IS A MISNOMER; IT WAS THE CATHOLICAL EMPIRE OF THE HISPANICAL MONARCHY.
+
+2. THE CATHOLICAL EMPIRE OF THE HISPANICAL MONARCHY WAS AN EMPIRE, BOTH, DE FACTO, AND DE IVRE.
+
+
+>Most regions under it were highly autonomous[...]
+
+AUTONOMY DOES NOT ENTAIL CONFEDERATION; THE EMPIRE WAS POLYSYNODIAL.
+
+
+[...] loosely united only by a common religion and monarch.
+
+ALL PROVINCES OF THE EMPIRE WERE INTEGRATED UNDER THE MONARCHY; THERE WAS NOTHING «LOOSE» ABOUT IT.
+--- 14910303
+>>14910210
+Not saying the Spanish Monarchy was a bad thing or being a confederation is a bad thing (is the ideal political configuration actually, as long as having a monarch as a center) and not saying you're wrong, but I can't see how the "Empire" was as such except only nominally. Could you explain how it was an empire not only de jure but also de facto? Also could you tell me more about how the polysynodial system worked and how it is different from a confederated system?? 
+Not trying to be hostile or antagonizing btw, if it I give off that vibe, I'm legitimately trying to understand how it truly differs from the HRE.
+--- 14910402
+>>14910303
+
+>Could you explain how it was an empire not only de jure but also de facto? Also could you tell me more about how the polysynodial system worked and how it is different from a confederated system??
+
+
+IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE THE HEAD OF A CORPORATION; YOU FOUND ANOTHER BRANCH OF YOUR COMPANY, AND SEND SOMEONE TO HEAD IT; IMAGINE THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE BRANCHES; EACH ONE HEADED BY ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES, ALL WORKING BY THEMSELVES, BUT UNDER YOUR AUTHORITY, AND WITHIN THE CORPORATION'S RULES, AND REGULATIONS.
+
+A POLYSYNODIAL SYSTEM IS AKIN TO A COMPANY OWNED & FRANCHISE OPERATED BUSINESS MODEL.
+
+A CONFEDERATION IS MERELY A MEGACOMMITTEE; CONFEDERATIONS ARE INHERENTLY BAD.
+--- 14910441
+>>14910402
+Oh, right, I think I'm starting to get it and notice the difference. Thanks for the explanation
+
+>CONFEDERATIONS ARE INHERENTLY BAD
+Why tho?? They give the most local autonomy while still having a sense of unity and shared civilizational goals and values.
+Also, do you think the 18th century Bourbon decrees were a mistake?
+--- 14910489
+>>14910151
+Spain was no elective monarchy as HRE for sure
+--- 14910491
+>>14910441
+
+>Why tho?? They give the most local autonomy while still having a sense of unity and shared civilizational goals and values.
+
+NO; CONFEDERATION IS A WAY OF PREVENTING UNITY, BY PRESERVING FRAGMENTATION, OR A WAY OF FRAGMENTING WHAT IS ALREADY UNITED, APART FROM BEING CONDUCIVE TO THE FOSTERING OF INTRIGUES, STRIFE, AND TYRANNY.
+
+
+>Also, do you think the 18th century Bourbon decrees were a mistake?
+
+NO; THE BOURBONIC REFORMS HOLICIZED THE EMPIRE, IMPOSING INSTITUTIONAL UNIFORMITY; WHAT CAUSED THE DISINTEGRATION OF THE EMPIRE WERE THE WARS OF SECESSION, WHICH WERE THE CONSEQUENCE OF A PROBLEM OF SOVEREIGNTY CAUSED BY THE NAPOLEONIC OCCUPATION OF THE IBERIC PENINSULA.
+--- 14910573
+>>14910491
+>CONFEDERATION IS A WAY OF PREVENTING UNITY, BY PRESERVING FRAGMENTATION
+
+And thus preserving localities from central government abuse and opression.
+
+>THE BOURBONIC REFORMS HOLICIZED THE EMPIRE, IMPOSING INSTITUTIONAL UNIFORMITY
+
+Cmon man, that's a highly liberal thing to do. Homogenizing different peoples is an attack on their traditions, rights and self governance. It's proto globohomo behaviour.
+--- 14910604
+>>14910573
+
+>And thus preserving localities from central government abuse and opression. [SIC]
+
+MORE LIKE FOSTERING LOCAL LITTLE TYRANNIES; YOUR NOTION OF UNITY, AND OF UNIVERSALIZATION, AS TANTAMOUNT TO «ABUSE & OPPRESSION» DERIVES FROM A SCHISMATIC PREJUDICE.
+
+
+>Cmon man, that's a highly liberal thing to do. Homogenizing different peoples is an attack on their traditions, rights and self governance. It's proto globohomo behaviour. [SIC]
+
+THE BOURBONIC REFORMS IMPOSED INSTITUTIONAL UNIFORMITY, NOT SOCIAL & MORAL HOMOGENIZATION; IMPROVE YOUR READING COMPREHENSION.
+--- 14910779
+>>14910604
+>MORE LIKE FOSTERING LOCAL LITTLE TYRANNIES; YOUR NOTION OF UNITY, AND OF UNIVERSALIZATION, AS TANTAMOUNT TO «ABUSE & OPPRESSION» DERIVES FROM A SCHISMATIC PREJUDICE.
+
+I'm against what happened to the spanish empire, but that's because its secessionist elites were a bunch of secular freemasons and not catholic localists so obviously they would become little tyrannical statelets. Also, not saying having unity and universal values and a central government is bad or a state of abuse per se, but central governments always have a tendency to grow and tyrannize those under it. That's why the HRE had an ideal political configuration.
+
+THE BOURBONIC REFORMS IMPOSED INSTITUTIONAL UNIFORMITY, NOT SOCIAL & MORAL HOMOGENIZATION; IMPROVE YOUR READING COMPREHENSION.
+
+That was just the beginning. Those decrees suppressed the institutions, privileges, and the ancient fueros of many lands under the crown. It was aiming into becoming more like a centralized french style absolutist monarchy (influenced by early liberal thought and concepts) and thus was aiming to distance itself from a true organic traditional medieval catholic monarchy into a more liberal, illuminist (and thus anti-catholic) one. And we all know how going towards that path turned out, by watching the last 300 years of history.
+--- 14910794
+>>14908295 (OP)
+Yes, Ferdinand II was even titled "Most Catholic King" by the pope
+--- 14910883
+>>14910779
+
+>I'm against what happened to the spanish empire[...] [SIC]
+
+«SPANISH EMPIRE» IS A MISNOMER; IT WAS THE CATHOLICAL EMPIRE OF THE HISPANICAL MONARCHY.
+
+
+>[...] but that's because its secessionist elites were a bunch of secular freemasons and not catholic localists so obviously they would become little tyrannical statelets. [SIC]
+
+«CATHOLIC LOCALISTS»? WHAT DOES THAT OXYMORON EVEN MEAN?
+
+
+>Also, not saying having unity and universal values and a central government is bad or a state of abuse per se[...]
+
+THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE IMPLYING WITH YOUR ARGUMENTATION.
+
+
+>[...] but central governments always have a tendency to grow and tyrannize those under it. [SIC]
+
+NOT REALLY; IT IS MORE PROBABLE & EASIER FOR LITTLE POLITIES TO BECOME TYRANNICAL, THAN FOR AN IMPERIAL ONE.
+
+
+>That's why the HRE had an ideal political configuration.[SIC]
+
+THE SO CALLED «HOLY ROMAN GERMANIC EMPIRE» WAS A MISHMASH OF FRACTIOUS POLITIES THAT AMOUNTED TO NOTHING BY THEMSELVES, AND TO NOTHING AS «A WHOLE»; GERMANICS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SECTARIAN, SCHISMATIC; NO MERE COINCIDENCE THAT «PROTESTANTISM» WAS FOUNDED BY A GERMAN, AND THAT IT INFECTED VIRTUALLY ALL GERMANIC LANDS.
+--- 14910893
+>That was just the beginning. Those decrees suppressed the institutions, privileges, and the ancient fueros of many lands under the crown.
+
+?
+
+NO.
+
+THE ONLY ERROR WAS EXPELLING THE SOCIETY OF JESUS FROM THE PROVINCES OF THE EMPIRE.
+
+
+>It was aiming into becoming more like a centralized french style absolutist monarchy (influenced by early liberal thought and concepts) and thus was aiming to distance itself from a true organic traditional medieval catholic monarchy into a more liberal, illuminist (and thus anti-catholic) one. And we all know how going towards that path turned out, by watching the last 300 years of history. [SIC]
+
+1. CENTRALIZATION A LA FRENCH WAS NEVER FEASIBLE, SINCE THE AMERICAN VICEKINGDOMS WERE ALL MORE POWERFUL & WEALTHIER THAN THE IBERIAN ONES.
+
+2. WHAT CAUSED THE DISINTEGRATION OF THE EMPIRE WERE THE WARS OF SECESSION, WHICH WERE THE CONSEQUENCE OF A PROBLEM OF SOVEREIGNTY CAUSED BY THE NAPOLEONIC OCCUPATION OF THE IBERIAN PENINSULA, NOT THE BOURBONIC REFORMS.
+--- 14911716
+>>14910883
+Based german hating namefag. G*rmoids truly are scum. Are u a carlist btw?
+--- 14911806
+>>14911716
+
+>Based german hating namefag. G*rmoids truly are scum.
+
+I DO NOT HATE GERMANS.
+
+
+>Are u a carlist btw?
+
+NO.
+--- 14911940
+>>14911806
+>NO.
+
+Really? But ur defending the restoration of the spanish monarchy and all. Does ur political views have a name, like an ideology, or political group/movement? Dont know many others besides carlism and falangism.
+--- 14912001
+>>14911940
+
+>Really?
+
+YES.
+
+
+>But ur defending the restoration of the spanish monarchy and all. [SIC]
+
+NO I AM NOT; EVEN IF I WERE, THAT WOULD NOT MAKE ME A CARLIST; CARLISM IS A DEFUNCT POLITICAL MOVEMENT FROM NINETEENTH CENTURY SPAIN.
+
+
+>Does ur political views have a name, like an ideology, or political group/movement? Dont know many others besides carlism and falangism. [SIC]
+
+YES.
+--- 14912102
+>>14908295 (OP)
+Yes, but ONLY because Charles V was literally the Holy Roman Emperor.
+--- 14912138
+>>14912001
+>YES
+
+Uhh, alright?? So what is it?
+--- 14912301
+>>14912102
+One of the kinoest moments on history. Almost like a crossover.

his/14908304.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,620 @@
+-----
+--- 14908304
+Are actual Iranians as unhinged and weird as their diaspora?
+--- 14908323
+>>14908304 (OP)
+What is weird or unhinged about Robert Sepehr? I have heard Jorjani has some "weird" ideas but I have never seen them so w/e, what are they? I do know Sepehr's work however and have even spoken with him on facebook years ago. There is nothing unhinged about him. I am guessing you are just low IQ and so don't understand their work. If I am wrong then prove it. What is that they have said that you can PROVE (not squeal like a retard) is "weird and unhinged?"
+--- 14908346
+>>14908323
+another unhinged diaspora enters
+--- 14908385
+>>14908304 (OP)
+Snownig + Iranian mixes always turn out trash.
+Jorjani, btw, is a transgressive Satanist who stole my ideas. He descends from Qajar Turkic trash royalty and has nothing to do with Iranians.
+Robert Sepehr's dad was a fucking Jew and Zionist. He's not even Iranian in the technical sense of the world.
+Both these people are retarded grifting trash.
+--- 14908386
+>>14908323
+atlantean nordic aryan aliens
+--- 14908484
+>>14908346
+exactly what I expected your reply to be. thanks for playing
+--- 14908485
+>>14908484
+>>14908386
+okay buddy
+--- 14908493
+>>14908386
+>out of africa, humans come from monkeys
+>NO NO ATLANTIS IS UNHINGED AND CWAAAAZY
+the funny part is you are probably too stupid to see the irony here. "Unhinged" and "weird" to you just means something you werent indoctrinated to believe not whether something is true or not
+--- 14908499
+>>14908493
+One has centuries long tried and tested scientific evidence, the other has some graphs from the apricity and 4chan
+--- 14908501
+>>14908386
+Oh I forgot to add zombie space jews and talking snakes etc etc. Smart people get the idea, idiots never will so it is what it is
+--- 14908504
+>>14908304 (OP)
+AA's not that weird.
+--- 14908508
+>>14908499
+>One has centuries long tried and tested scientific evidence
+No it doers't in fact it has been proven false definitively already but you are a hack so you only speak from second hand what your best guess is. You are wrong and intellectually lazy, you wait to be spoonfed by your puppet masters instead of doing your own research
+--- 14908512
+>>14908508
+You are right the jews are controlling me... בראַפּ
+--- 14908517
+>>14908512
+I never mentioned Jews.... but now that you have I wont disagree with you. Indeed, your mind has been controlled since the day you were born and likely will be til the day you die because you likely dont even have a problem with it as long as it help you eat, drink, shit and fuck. Any knowledge outside of that likely has very little value to you
+--- 14908525
+>>14908517
+No way
+--- 14908536
+I'm under the impression that there is even more than one severely unstable Persian on this board, which is quite impressive.
+--- 14908540
+>>14908536
+All of you snownigs are a billion times worse.
+All of you are polarized: either insufferable self-loathing trannies who let niggers sleep with your wives or evil, inhumane quasi-Jews who want to slaughter all non-whites in a "pepe race war now"! Absolute fucking degenerates. My retarded parents made a mistake moving to your destabilized shitholes.
+I can't even maintain a friendship with you pseudointellectual snownig garbages. I am led to believe most of the good ones died in WWII.
+--- 14908553
+any diaspora is doomed once it comes into contact with the sphere of influence of the globohomo
+>Are actual Iranians as unhinged and weird as their diaspora?
+No, average iranians are chads
+--- 14908554
+>>14908540
+The other one likes white people. There might even be 3 different ones.
+--- 14908556
+>>14908536
+you got an answer from the unstable Lur
+--- 14908560
+>>14908553
+that guy is a turkmen, btw
+--- 14908570
+>>14908560
+>that guy is a turkmen, btw
+Iranian Turkmen
+--- 14908572
+>>14908554
+The truth of the matter is post-industrial society has no "people". Most so-called "people" have no qualia or true sentience. They are mechanized soulless and devitalized faggots, hence why they are so easily fooled by various CONTROLLED zeitgeists.
+Practically ALL intellectual discourse is controlled now faggots. FEDs and glowies have corrupted pretty much all forms of sociopolitical discourse, SO WHY TALK ABOUT IT LIKE YOUR OPINION MEANS JACK SHIT?
+Dumb snow nig. ALL of us are effectively slaves. It doesn't matter if you're left or right. Both have been controlled from the very start. The dialectic does not originate organically.
+Genuinely kys, retarded pompous faggot. There is no future for humanity, and there is more to life outside of attachment to the depraved and failed human species.
+--- 14908579
+>>14908572
+Are you haplogroup T?
+--- 14908587
+>>14908570
+I thought Iranians hate Iranian Turkmen and see them as non-Iranian and whatnot?
+--- 14908619
+>>14908579
+You are a retarded zoomer shithead and cannot understand anything on a deeper level. You live completely on the surface. Whether that's globohomo, identity politics, or whatever else, your brain has completely rotted from memes. This is because you fear solitude and contemplation, which effectively renders you as insentient soulless garbage.
+When talking about deep topics like this, one's biological morphology, humanity, etc. don't matter. When bombs are dropping or crazy madmen are shelling one's house, the last thing that will be on the mind of an actual sentient being, who has a rich internal mental life, will be race, haplogroups, politics, etc.
+You are complete garbage. We just got done with a SCAMDEMIC. Corona was a hoax. China was acting out the whole Wuhan bullshit. What does this all mean?
+It means most of your mind, the abstractions you use to create complex narratives, are ensured to be "kosher", using this word metaphorically here. Reacting to the so-called crises in this world, without deep reflection or humility, will lead to you being dominated by kosher narratives. There is no heroism anymore in the age of Big Data, cloud computing, ML, and much more, all of it will be SUBVERTED. It's already all subverted. All of it! The tranny commie, the far-right pepe edgelord who just read BAP, -- it's all already subverted.
+There is absolutely no future for humanity. Ulrich Horstmann is right. The only way out is omnicide at this point. I say start with (((them))). If I were in control of Iran, I would be destroying oil reserves left and right and nuking everyone around me, including ourselves. Enough is enough, it's time mankind is put to an end.
+What I hope is that another species evolves and develops advanced civilizations with a strong ethos. Mankind has completely and utterly failed. I say give the birds a chance!
+You should know your place when debating Brahmin like me.
+--- 14908626
+>>14908587
+Iran is a multi-ethnic nation, OP is asking about that country's diaspora, not a specific ethnic group.
+--- 14908656
+>>14908619
+I doubt there's two Persians with this exact personality, so this is probably you. Might not be multiple after all then.
+--- 14908668
+>>14908656
+List top 5 books, films, etc. I bet they're all trash like your mind. You're the kind of person to watch James Cameron films whereas I watch classy Robert Bresson films.
+You are absolutely nothing compared to me. Go back to reading trash like Harry Potter while I read German romanticist poets like Holderlin.
+You are absolutely inferior to me.
+In fact, I will go a step further. I am an incarnation of GOD. I am the closest human being to Maitreya, Saoshyant, Second Coming of Christ, Mahdi, or whatever else. You, on the other hand, are just stupid peasant trash.
+--- 14908695
+>>14908668
+Cameron films are pretty shit, but I don't really watch films much, as you already know. However, I meant to ask you if you speak any Persian?
+--- 14908727
+>>14908695
+I don't have time for this shit. I am an intellectual. I have MANY books to read. I have a shit job to do as a burned out data scientist.
+You are all icchantika trash. We are living in the Kali Yuga. We may all die in the forthcoming decades in fake manufactured wars.
+Iran is a failed culture, a failed country, after the incompetence of the Qajars. Iran has no rich culture.
+Europeans had a rich culture but it came to an end after WWII. 
+Industrialization was a massive mistake.
+Look at China. Mao was backed by (((them))) and Golmann Sachs! China destroyed its own culture merely to industrialize and sip the Faustian poison. China had the richest culture in the world but not anymore!
+Look around you! Most of the old-growth forests are gone! The Earth is screaming in pain! 
+Look at the average man! He is a soulless mechanized devitalized fool! Cut off from the transcendent numinous realm! Poisoning his body and Earth with pesticides, preservatives and more! Demolishing his own traditional cultures!
+It's all over! This is Kali Yuga * 1 billion! The elites want to slaughter us all in fake manufactured wars, pandemics, etc., and those that survive will have brain-computer interfaces.
+Overcrowding, overpopulation -- MANKIND WAS MEANT TO BE A SPARSE AND NOBLE SPECIES.
+No more, you have betrayed God, you have betrayed Buddha, you have betrayed all that is sacred.
+But no more, no more. The bats, birds, bees, and butterflies want vengeance. Avalokiteshvara is no longer smiling. Your Buddha nature has been forfeited. Your soul has been contaminated by a darkness from a bottomless abyss. You have become vessels for a non-human occult force that is beyond a mortal's attempt to grasp.
+
+Embrace the extinction of humanity! That is the only way! Ulrich Horstmann has it right!
+
+Die Geschichte des Untiers ist erfüllt, und in Demut harrt es des doppelten Todes — der physischen Vernichtung und des Auslöschens der Erinnerung an sich selbst.
+--- 14908766
+>>14908540
+>want to slaughter all non-whites in a "pepe race war now"
+No one believes this. Getting rid of shitskins out of European countries maybe ie niggers and arabs. Aryans who arent necessarily white like portugese, italians, persians etc are fine and east asians are fine.
+--- 14908771
+>>14908540
+niggers and jews are Nation destroyers apparently mudslimes as well. Invasive species that need to be eradicated for a functioning society
+--- 14908779
+>>14908572
+--- 14908803
+>>14908766
+Iranians have only like 15% Sintashta (but depending on model, you can raise it to 25%).
+This is just RETARDED shit. There are far bigger problems right now. I would be agreeing with you if there weren't other problems.
+The entire industrialized globalized world is rotten to the root. When the root is poisoned, then the will most likely be poisoned too.
+There are FAAAR bigger problems than blacks and arabs right now. If a black or Arab is able to become cognizant of these problems, then it's necessary to work with them, but the reality is the problems are intractable.
+The only viable solution at this point is literally omnicide, an omnicide that also takes down the depraved technocratic elites.
+I can't do that, so the only solution is TO STAY OUT OF THE WHOLE DEBACLE.
+There's literally a tenebrous force animating all of this. I believe Negarestani may come close to describing it, but I think there is a deeper level than what he discusses too.
+Industrialization and modernity were all abject failures. If anything, people are more foolish and ignorant than ever.
+I am an intellectual. I have no time to debate you. I have books to read, work to do, etc. I am sick and tired of morons who do not know their place. Sometimes I feel I am the only truly sentient being with a rich internal mental life when compared to the rest of humanity. A lot of this feels like a solipsistic nightmare with a few archons ensuring the sutures remain in place. All of this makes Silent Hill 2 look mundane in comparison.
+Satanists who rape little kids and own multinational corporations with a sick, twisted obsession with transhumanist bullshit like human-animal hybrids, brain-computer interfaces, controlling every facet of our lives,a nd much more.
+
+STFU, you stupid fucking faggot. I am literally one of the few people who understand the full complexity of this nightmare. I am literally like Gehrman from Bloodborne, but I know there is no end to this nightmare.
+--- 14908809
+>>14908803
+lol imagine thinking I will read this, seethe more sand nigger
+--- 14908817
+>>14908803
+>then the will
+then the tree and fruits* will
+--- 14908821
+>>14908803
+Bloodborne lore? Didn't expect that. A little birdie told me to tell you to check your inbox, by the way. Best of luck.
+--- 14908822
+>>14908809
+>I will read this
+Ofc a moron like you can't read. You'd rather waste time with mindless entertainment like ecchi anime or memes.
+>seethe more sand nigger
+Better than being a snownig who believes in the delusion of "progress". There's no such thing as progress or "advancement" of humanity.
+--- 14908825
+>>14908727
+>>14908803
+>stupid faggot
+btw I am bodhi mantra, you only know about any of this because people like me spoonfed it to you at great personal investment of time and energy and great personal risk so eat shit you fucking faggot. You dont know half as much as you think you do
+--- 14908832
+>>14908304 (OP)
+>>14908304 (OP)
+No most are normal. But why the fuck is sepher so obssesed with proving ayyrians. A week or so ago he tried to misconstrue some genetics find in egypt to say some retarded shit about ayyrians.
+--- 14908833
+>>14908825
+You retarded faggot. I was a Soto Zen Buddhist for many years and read copious sutras, ensuring the translations are good. For example, Red Pine's translations of various sutras such as the Platform & Lankavatara are very good.
+
+I am far more well-read than you. My views are based on a combination of Pentti Linkola, Kacyznski, Ludwig Klages, and Evola (the last one only a little bit).
+--- 14908848
+>>14908822
+>no such thing as progress
+I diaagree because I don't live inside a bronze age hut on some despotic iron age empire fucking my cousin and eating insipid grains.
+--- 14908857
+>>14908833
+>I am far more well-read than you.
+top lolz. first off reading and actually understanding are 2 completely different things. You cannot understand any of it until you have the keys, the codes. Second I have read books people like you have never even heard of and never will hear of because they arent for normies. I have red well over 500 books in my life, perhaps over 1000 and my collection mogs yours to oblivion. You are free to tug your own dick all you want though, I dont really care, do you
+--- 14908861
+If this thread is anything to go by, yes.
+--- 14908867
+>>14908848
+And seems more like progress than anything else. Perhaps I would be happier, perhaps I would've been killed off and dulped in the woods as a child.
+--- 14908876
+>>14908867
+Dumped*
+--- 14908885
+>>14908848
+We have to go back to the Middle Ages as Evola beautifully defends. It is far more honorable to live in the manner you criticized than to support a destructive interconnected industrial system, which has stripped man of autonomy, destroyed immense biodiversity, eroded communal and traditional cultures, and more.
+If we can't go back, the only solution is omnicide as promoted by Ulrich Horstmann.
+>>14908857
+You're a Freemason? I knew it!
+Damn fucking Freemason with your sick and twisted views of progress.
+I will not be pulled into your disgusting Evangelion-like teleological narrative.
+--- 14908888
+>>14908833
+I am just trolling you a little bit anyway spastic faggot, at least you know a little something and arent a complete moron like most people here.
+
+Ever heard of PBD podcast? If not check it out, p good. This is my website. I will complete your training youngling
+https://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-the-holofractal-universe
+
+
+BTW chill out, we have (((them))) on the run now. You have to break eggs to make an omelette, order comes from chaos. Of course it will get bad, it always does before it gets good. Shiva must destroy for Brahma to build. Ride the tiger and stop investing so much in the illusion, Maya has enchanted you. Que sera, sera
+--- 14908900
+>>14908885
+>blavataky
+>for fools
+HAHAHAHA, Whoever wrote that is a hack and psued. Blavatksy filters like 99.9% of humanity. You literally have to study for decades to understand Blavasky's work
+--- 14908905
+>>14908304 (OP)
+>>14908304 (OP)
+>>14908323
+lol i rekt this guy on the left on twitter so hard, he deleted his post, then blocked me. I did not know he was Iranian, I thought he was just white.
+--- 14908937
+>>14908905
+some Iranians look white due to strong Indo-European genetics
+--- 14908946
+>>14908888
+No, the solution is to destroy humanity and give birds a chance.
+I used to think my vivid dreams of being a Garuda were past life recollections. Now I see that's the future.
+The social organization of many bird species is immensely advanced. If you think only humanity is meant for advanced cultures and traditions, then you're a fool. Birds descend from theropods, and in many ways, they have a more efficient anatomy and physiology than us, especially in regards to their respiratory and circulatory systems. Their brains also tend to be more fine-tuned with lean, robust and efficient connections. Most species are also geared towards social monogamy, even though extra pair copulations are quite common. What's interesting is there is a strong correlation with enecephalization quotient and cooperative breeding among bird species. The most intelligent and self-aware species are corvids. New Caledonian crows even have the capacity to improve and refine on tools based on blueprints left on various leaves.
+New Guinea is like a Lovecraftian island with the cosmic looking mating rituals of birds-of-paradise...
+Many ancient cultures venerated birds. This is because deep down they can sense their superiority. If there is a hierarchy based on degree of closeness to the numinous realm, then birds are above humanity.
+Unlike Jews who betray humanity for themselves, I betray humanity for the birds. 
+Birds, bats, bees, and butterflies are all important pollinators and give much to this world, but I would say birds are the most interesting in their evolutionary potential to create advanced traditional civilizations.
+There will be avian Buddhas millions of years from now. I'm coming back as a Garuda in the future for my complete perfect enlightenment.
+Now if you'll excuse me, I am about 60% through my textbook on birds. I am taking an online Cornell class on it, which I paid 200 dollars for.
+--- 14908949
+>>14908885
+>It is far more honorable to live in the manner you criticized than to support a destructive interconnected industrial system
+Honor is dead and bits of its cadaver are now being collected as a keepsake by those who still care for it. Men among the ruins as always.
+>which has stripped man of autonomy, destroyed immense biodiversity
+Fair enough. Although humanity itself is correlated with massive extinction events wherever they go.
+>eroded communal
+That can stay dead. Biggest cow village mindset is bad enough as it is now. 
+>traditional cultures
+I do mourn these. So much knowledge lost. So much lost to time.
+--- 14908988
+>>14908946
+based garuda knower. Humans cant go anywhere anymore than your body can get rid of your t cells. We are an integral part inside of the Universal being, we have a duty to perform just as everything in your body has a duty to perform
+--- 14908989
+>>14908951
+>Iranjeet mudpeople are literally less indoeuropean than telugu dravidian brahmins
+I doubt it
+--- 14908990
+>>14908949
+>Although humanity itself is correlated with massive extinction events wherever they go.
+Then what's the point of loving humanity, which is just one lineage of primates?
+To me this is just a temporary form I embody in the infinitude of Time. 
+Pic-related is a Florida Scrub Jay. They have more harmonious family units than human beings as a whole, yet they have become a vulnerable species due to humanity's hubris.
+With humanity's growth, all we see are the compounding problems and the creation of entirely novel ones of an entirely different order. All mankind is good at is creating shit shows and drama as technocratic elites manipulate all sides to their advantage. I doubt any other species, if it were to form advanced civilizations, would create such predicaments.
+Why should I sympathize more with the plight of various groups of humanity more than Florida Scrub Jays?
+Maybe the solution is to end humanity and give a chance to other non-human organisms to form advanced civilizations. This is why I have become more interested in Ulrich Horstmann. I also like his mustache.
+--- 14909055
+>>14908990
+>Then what's the point of loving humanity, which is just one lineage of primates?
+I'm a human.
+>To me this is just a temporary form I embody in the infinitude of Time.
+To me this is the only form I will ever embody.
+ >With humanity's growth, all we see are the compounding problems and the creation of entirely novel ones of an entirely different order
+how do you know birds would be any different, hyper social communitarians in the human world are no more caring for their enviroment than more individualistic societies. Bird societies would still transform the world around them and probably wipe out megafauna.
+>I doubt any other species, if it were to form advanced civilizations, would create such predicaments.
+Regardless of the why. That world would be a frankly boring one.
+>Why should I sympathize more with the plight of various groups of humanity more than Florida Scrub Jays?
+That's for you to decide, I myself am a man, and wish to see my offspring prosper. I don't want to see that bir extinct mind you.
+--- 14909059
+>>14908304 (OP)
+Is one on the right the subhuman who said that blacks have non-human dna or something? He is an Iranian lol? Must be having a weird identity crisis.
+--- 14909076
+>>14909059
+Some blacks do have archaic hominid ghost species DNA (Might've been an extension of an archaic hominid we think was extinct earlier than it really was) though most eurasians also have archaic hominid adixture (neandersovan)
+its fun to theorize of ape men in the depths of pre-history
+--- 14909078
+>>14908304 (OP)
+The only Iranians I’ve ever met were oiled up mall kiosk peddlers and they were all unhinged so my gut reaction is to say yes
+--- 14909121
+>>14909055
+>I'm a human.
+The Buddha said the Tathagata is unfathomable, and I remember somewhere in Pali canon he said Buddhas transcend humanity. I may remembering incorrectly though.
+Regardless, I do not define myself based on humanity.
+>To me this is the only form I will ever embody
+I've experienced transportive dreams where I've embodied other forms, so I do not want to cling to this one too strongly. 
+>Bird societies would still transform the world around them and probably wipe out megafauna.
+Not to this degree. Most avian species in general do not seem to embody the psychosexual, cannibalistic frenzy of chimps and bonobos, our closest relatives to a common ancestor.
+> That world would be a frankly boring one
+Birds would create art and sophisticated cultures. There is nothing boring about the fantastical courtship displays of Satin Bowerbirds and many others like the Vogelkop superb bird-of-paradise. New Guinea has incredible birds with amazing courtship displays. For example, satin Bowerbirds construct houses where they decorate it with sparkly stones, flowers, and more. Don't you see the beginnings of something incredible there? They have aesthetic sensibilities, which is not unique to humanity.
+>I myself am a man, and wish to see my offspring prosper. 
+I am a Buddha and wish to see the Dharma prosper. I see mankind has embraced adharma and has failed to live up to the Dharma...
+For the Dharma, I promote the extinction of mankind and giving non-human organisms like birds a chance to inherit this Earth. 
+I've been married for over 10 years and have remained childless out of choice, even telling my stupid mom and dad to stfu.
+--- 14909150
+>>14908832
+No this thread is filled with diaspora and they're all unhinged and weird. Every new post is proving OP
+--- 14909156
+>>14908905
+>>14908937
+Robert Sepehr or whatever his name is half white and half iranian. Same with Jorjani
+--- 14909160
+>>14908989
+Safavids were a mix of Pontic Greek, Georgian, and Circassian. Nice try though
+--- 14909162
+>>14909055
+Also, European high culture felt birdlike in the past. Mozart was heavily inspired by his starling for example.
+The costumes and wigs of past Europeans had something birdlike about them. Very regal.
+Moreover, human beings were not evolutionary predisposed to monogamy, yet these highly cultured Europeans had ornamented costumes and classy dances reminiscent of the courtship rituals of many birds.
+Could this in some sense be a sign?
+Angels with bird wings, even god with wings among the Assyrians and Ashur...
+Thinking of all this inspires me to take over Iran! I'd pretend to care for the people and raise public image. However, none would know my true intentions of wanting to destroy all humanity for the birds..it would be based. Just imagine the feast for the ravens.
+--- 14909165
+>>14909150
+Most of this is one guy, he's quite a character, you can recognise him easily once you learn his thing. He's obsessed with intellectual posturing and "high brow" media in particular.
+--- 14909186
+>>14909165
+No there's still the buddhist guy and a few other haploautists
+--- 14909193
+>>14909186
+I don't think those are Iranians, ironically he's both of those things as well, albeit haplo only reluctantly due to insecurities.
+--- 14909198
+>>14909193
+they are
+--- 14909200
+People should be judged based on their Goodreads list and other metrics. They shouldn't be judged based on race. I spend a lot of time fine-tuning my Goodreads list.
+--- 14909217
+>>14909121
+>Not to this degree. Most avian species in general do not seem to embody the psychosexual, cannibalistic frenzy of chimps and bonobos, our closest relatives to a common ancestor.
+You could attribute this to a lack of complex interpersonal bonds such as what chimps and we have. But I'll accept it for the sake of argument.
+>Birds would create art and sophisticated cultures.
+They wouldn¡'t be as diverse as what we have I think. The mindsets and ways of life humans are capable of are almost uncountable.
+>There is nothing boring about the fantastical courtship displays of Satin Bowerbirds and many others like the Vogelkop superb bird-of-paradise. New Guinea has incredible birds with amazing courtship displays.
+And I am sure they would evolve into social practices worthy of fantasy books. But there is a lack of intrigue and of conflict, where might I see an avian scaveola, an alexander, a wu zetian. But then again I'm sure some f the more macabre species (and corvids, who are cunts) would fill those niches.
+>Don't you see the beginnings of something incredible there? They have aesthetic sensibilities, which is not unique to humanity.
+I do, and I would want to see their palaces high in the trees bur I would like to then return back into a place where man lives. The mindset these communitarian birds of yours have is alien and almost repelent, none of them would understnd me, perhaps a disgruntled and anti-social corvid who fell through the cracks would understand my feelings. The need to be the atop the mountain, to create, destroy and dominate, to discharge one's will into the world.
+>I am a Buddha and wish to see the Dharma prosper. I see mankind has embraced adharma and has failed to live up to the Dharma...
+I do not believe in that as yu might've assumed. So to me my offspring and my ideas matter.
+>For the Dharma, I promote the extinction of mankind and giving non-human organisms like birds a chance to inherit this Earth.
+For humanity I contradict that.
+--- 14909235
+>>14909217
+By the way I have to say. Despite being a schizo you are a very good poster. It's been a while since I've been nspired to draw anything. Today I'm drawing corvid alexander looking over his empire.
+--- 14909271
+>>14909217
+>They wouldn¡'t be as diverse as what we have I think. The mindsets and ways of life humans are capable of are almost uncountable.
+They will have their Zdzisław Beksińskis.
+> But then again I'm sure some f the more macabre species (and corvids, who are cunts) would fill those niches
+I think the corvids family has the highest chance of inheriting the Earth. I like how many corvids have extended families and are very adaptable and resilient. They are also highly intelligent and engage in meta-tool use. New Caledonian crows are especially impressive.
+>The mindset these communitarian birds of yours have is alien and almost repelent, none of them would understnd me, perhaps a disgruntled and anti-social corvid who fell through the cracks would understand my feelings. The need to be the atop the mountain, to create, destroy and dominate, to discharge one's will into the world.
+Huginn and Muninn understood Wōden, the peak of the gods, and I as a messenger of Wōden say the time of man is over. Geri and Freki are hungry and wounded.
+--- 14909573
+>>14908304 (OP)
+This is what muttification with wh*tes does to a nigga.
+--- 14909584
+>>14908536
+4chan has a lot of mentally ill diasporoids forced to cope every day that their parents left their based trad shithole for a better life among the cumskins. Case in point: >>14908540
+--- 14910068
+>>14908803
+hey you still here? reply if so
+--- 14910081
+>>14908385
+>Snownig + Iranian mixes always turn out trash.
+Not true.
+--- 14910097
+This thread is against the rules and should have been deleted by mods. It is not history and deals with contemporary public "intellectuals". I'm starting to think FEDs and glowies are working with mods to further vilify Iranians. If I made a thread like this, I would be immediately banned. I've been banned from /his/ so many goddamn times. So why is this thread and the other one calling for genocide of Iran still up?
+Also, I am starting to become more suspicious of supposed genetic samples from Iran. Knowing how much anti-Iranian propaganda is coming from ZOG, I am starting to reevaluate just how obsessed they are with Iranians.
+--- 14910116
+>>14910097
+Robert Sepeher is an anthropologist who literally writes history books, keep seething psued retard
+--- 14910122
+>>14910116
+This thread isn't about Robert Sepehr's trashy pseud anthropological works, retard. Also, Robert Sepehr is half Jew.
+--- 14910134
+>>14910097
+>the other one calling for genocide of Iran still up?
+since when is mocking annoying diaspora calling for genocide?
+--- 14910143
+>>14910122
+Even if this true so what? You think every Jew is part of the Zionist mob banksters? You know one of the founding members of the SS was Jewish? He does good work and as far as I have ever seen is a good dude. If you have proof to the contrary post it or stfu
+--- 14910176
+>>14910134
+Read the other thread, retarded cunt. It literally promotes genocide..it's against the rules and still up:
+>>14908991
+This particular thread is not as bad as the other one, but it is still off-topic. Both topics should have been deleted by mods.
+>>14910143
+Cyrus the Moron made a mistake freeing such vermin from Babylonian captivity. If it were up to me, I would destroy his tomb and ship all of the heads of the Persian Jewish minority to Israel.
+--- 14910228
+>>14908323
+Stop sperging out, Robert
+--- 14910262
+>>14908508
+Ah yes, it's totally disproven. Trust me, I also did my own research in a schizo youtube rambling video.
+--- 14910299
+>>14910262
+buddy I have a minor in anthropology, what exactly are your credentials again? This smells like projection from a schizo retard
+--- 14910375
+>>14908304 (OP)
+I don't think ANY group of natives has ever been as unhinged and weird as their diaspora.
+--- 14910529
+>>14908304 (OP)
+>unhinged
+You know what, fuck it. I'm cancelling this thread.
+--- 14910669
+>>14910529
+Are the blue ones Jorjani? if so 
+>Abrahamics should be exterminated like rats
+My God this man is based
+--- 14910688
+>the Aryans know
+>hinge them
+
+Desperation allimalliation
+--- 14910719
+>>14910529
+Who are these autists?
+--- 14910774
+>>14909271
+>They will have their Zdzisław Beksińskis.
+Would they? What tells you that?
+>I think the corvids family has the highest chance of inheriting the Earth. I like how many corvids have extended families and are very adaptable and resilient. They are also highly intelligent and engage in meta-tool use. New Caledonian crows are especially impressive.
+Someday in the future maybe, yes. If there ever was an avian Alexander I expect it to be a crow.
+--- 14910806
+>>14910719
+"content creators"
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfMVM8o3gRE [Embed]
+--- 14910832
+>>14910806
+Thanks mate
+--- 14910856
+>>14910806
+So is this the *most* autistic video they have? How does it rate among their canon?
+--- 14910957
+>>14908304 (OP)
+Humorously enough, Reza Negarestani is full Iranian and the smartest out of those mutt schizos. However, I do dislike Negarestani's writing style, which imitates the writing styles of French continental philosophers like Baudrillard and Deleuze for his "speculative fiction", but overall, the ideas he explores are far more original and thought provoking. The idea that oil is a sentient entity that manipulates mankind into self-destruction is very interesting, especially given how integral petroleum is to the functioning of modern industrial economies. I am oversimplifying his views ofc. It has a nice fatalist aspect to it tied to ancient Mesopotamian myths.
+Also, as I've said before, Jorjani stole my ideas (specifically his views on Zurvanism as Faustian). Jorjani, a name referring to Georgian migrants, is a descendant of Qajar trash and has admitted to working with glowies before taking that particular article down. Moreover, nothing about his archeofuturism is unique in the least, and his libertinism and feminism are nauseating. He simply mixes some transgressive left hand Satanist bullshit into his project, probably due to influence from Stephen E. Flowers. Jorjani is a narcissist who has had petulant arguments with plenty of people more intelligent than him, such as Stephen E. Flowers and Mishlove. Jorjani is also a big Zionist and has frequently insulted Iranians based on misreadings of actual research.
+Robert Sepehr seems like a waste of time because paleontology and primatology have advanced so much, and if you're going against the academic consensus to create a worldview reminiscent of Evola's Hyperborea narrative, then it's better be more mythologically or symbolically inspiring in an idealist framework that does not base itself on empirical findings. I have not read Robert Sepehr as much admittedly, but I have looked into how he has distorted certain paleontological findings in order to push for his idea that various races intermixed with aliens.
+--- 14911103
+>>14910957
+>The idea that oil is a sentient entity that manipulates mankind into self-destruction is very interesting
+You're an idiot and so is he.
+--- 14911160
+>>14911103
+It's an interesting idea, dumb cunt. Here are 2 quotes from secondary sources.
+
+"""Oil is a fascinating geological product that contains in itself thousands of years old fossils and sediments and which drives explicitly or implicitly the majority of the world geopolitical behaviors. In his book Cyclonopedia (see the numerous previous articles about it), Reza Negarestani claims that the Middle East is a sentient entity whose shit is oil. Building-up on Deleuze and Guattari’s Thousand Plateaus and their War Machines, he indicates that such a machine requires fuel and grease that cannot be possible without oil. The film Jarhead recounts the encounter of the American army with this geological sentient entity during the first Gulf War. The film almost never introduce any Middle Eastern human being but the sand, dust and oil praised by Negarestani are the true vernacular elements that surround the heavy army.
+
+In Najaf and Ninevah, contacts speak of a notorious female oil smuggler named Jay who has assembled a militant religious cult named Naphtanese in the mountains of Kurdistan in Iran. They believe that the Unlife of War feeds on oil or (as they put it) the ‘black corpse of the Sun’. Negarestani Reza, Cyclonopedia. Melbourne: Re-Press, 2010. P130"""
+****
+****
+"""The contention is this: not only do we use oil, it uses us. 
+
+Not just oil, but the fossil trinity: oil, coal, and methane: each unique substances, and yet unified by the chemical energy stored in carbon bonds. Humanity has been possessed by these daemons that now control us: fuel. Oil in particular has usurped our collective agency with its own by dominating our own political systems. Human history is now petrohistory.""""
+--- 14911274
+>>14911103
+Looks like you arent very sentient
+--- 14911293
+>>14910529
+I don't get it why be so needlessly hostile. if he doesn't want to do it then just say no thanks. whatever happened to basic courtesy and decorum
+--- 14911341
+>>14911293
+>whatever happened to basic courtesy and decorum
+The internet
+--- 14911367
+>>14911293
+You should have seen his arguments with Stephen E. Flowers and Jeffrey Mishlove, both of which were very hospitable towards him. Jorjani seems to have narcissistic personality disorder.
+--- 14911518
+>>14911367
+>Jorjani seems to have narcissistic personality disorder.
+That's an understatement. He has his head in his ass
+--- 14911566
+>>14911274 #
+The oil beat it out of me.
+--- 14911912
+Reminder that Bodhimanta (Bodhi) is actually just Sepehr larping.
+--- 14911989
+>>14908304 (OP)
+I found this
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2jgf9cmxI [Embed]
+
+and dunked all over this retarded slut in the comments. I will see if she ever responds to any of it. feel free to white knight for her and get dunked on as well
+--- 14911997
+>>14911912
+reminder you are a twink larping as a man
+--- 14912180
+>>14911989
+You could have been less confrontational in the message. I think she unfortunately deleted it on YouTube...
+Also, Robert Sepehr's dad is a literal Holocaust film director, Ben Hur Sepehr, so I would be a bit more suspicious of him.
+--- 14912220
+>>14912180
+it's still there when I refreshed it. It probably has to be approved because of how many edits I did. Probably got flagged as possible spam by the algo.
+
+>You could have been less confrontational in the message
+She was being smug af, just responded in kind to her psuedo bs
+--- 14912286
+>>14912180
+should be there now. I see it in a private tab
+--- 14912376
+>>14912286
+Yeah, I hope she responds. Btw, don't you find this suspicious?
+
+https://scoutnews.substack.com/p/he-was-the-far-rights-favourite-author
+
+His father's remarks piss me off a lot. His father was ungrateful vermin.
+--- 14912389
+>>14912376
+Like I said above I dont care if he has jewish blood. I have known lots of based Jews in my life. Most Jews dont even know about the zionist cabal of banksters are just regular people living their life, intermarrying etc. Seems most people on this website dont seem to realize that. Do you think it is fair for foreign cultures to judge you based on what the CIA or robber barons of the past did? I mean it doesnt matter to me if he has Jewish blood, to each their own though. As long as he never does anything that is anti-aryan he is based as far as I am concerned
+--- 14912405
+>>14911989
+Morocco isn't in east africa you retarded monkey. it's literally the northwestern corner.
+--- 14912410
+>>14912376
+Interesting I didnt know he knows Henry makow. I have spoken to makow and published one of his articles on my website. Makow also does great work
+--- 14912416
+>>14912405
+I was quoting her you retarded nigger
+--- 14912424
+>>14912405
+feel better now?
+--- 14912435
+>>14912389
+I just find it suspicious that a Iranian Jewish Zionist's son is spreading Nordicist and antisemitic stuff. Psyops can be very advanced and doesn't always fit linear forecasting models. Some of the biggest antisemites in history have been Jewish as Christopher Jon Bjerknes discussed on Adam Green's channel "Know More News" on Bitchute/Odyssey. I do recommend checking that out too...
+For example, I know 100% Jorjani is a glowie, since I've read an article where he admitted to it before taking it down. I would not be surprised if Robert Sepehr was a glowie too but in a more disinfo way. I just find him very fishy.
+--- 14912458
+>>14912435
+I am well aware of Green and Bjerknes. Sepeher is only half Jewish on his father's side. Perhaps he discovered the truth doing research same as Makow did. The Jews are just as much pawns of the banksters as the goy. Do you see what is happening in Israel rn? I mean get your caution, caution and skepticism is always good but I dont find anything particularly compelling about a Jew finding out Jewish gangsters are taxing him to death, flooding his home with niggers and destroying his country and knowing this isnt the first time, they have been doing it for 1000's of years and causing little Jews like him and his family to be skinned and hung for it and being pissed about it and wanting to expose them. Perhaps his father didnt know either and it make him even more pissed to find out what happened in germany was because of these giga kikes. I find this very easy to believe and sympathize with. Ron Unz is a jew, a Jew owns odysee that hosts all the videos jewtube wont. This isnt out of the ordinary
+--- 14912477
+>>14912435
+To add to this, he could have changed his name, or not used his name at all on his channel and not associated his father with his company. If he wanted to be sneaky he didnt do a very good a job at it and the glowies damn sure arent this sloppy
+--- 14912484
+>>14912458
+See, the stuff you're saying frightens me. Bear with me for some time.
+I most definitely do not support flooding the West. I think opening borders is bad. But don't you think it's possible Jews benefit from promoting the opposite backlash?
+As CJB argues, Hitler got a lot of his money from Jewish backers. In fact, Hitler may have been Jewish from his paternal side too.
+Now listen, I'm not saying to cuck out and accept this dismal state, but I just don't think all-out race war would be good either.
+In a way, one can argue Jews promoted the decadence of Weimar republic, but then they unleashed angry far right on them, as they still maintained top positions of power in a kind of fluid controlled way.
+I know I am speaking in a very choppy way, because it's a lot to process, but don't you think Jews, in a sense, are the architects of the dialectic? They engineer the far leftist self-loathing liberals, ashamed for being white, but they also seem to be behind empowering the "pepe race war now" faggots, largely motivated by Nordicist supremacy complex. It's a kind of extreme duality that they manipulate to maintain their power consolidated in the system.
+As we both know, Trump was in a sense "testing the water" of kosher far right uprising, kind of like Azov in some sense.
+Jews aren't just massive degenerate leftists. They can also be massive genocidal freaks. For example, Chabad Jews surround Putin and Jews practically control congress.
+Honestly, maybe the solution is to get rid of the Jews first and foremost?
+--- 14912489
+>>14912477
+>glowies damn sure arent this sloppy
+They're getting sloppier in recent times, but sometimes I feel like they take glee in mocking the ones truly in the know...
+--- 14912502
+>>14912484
+>As CJB argues, Hitler got a lot of his money from Jewish backers
+This is bullshit. Bjerknes doesnt know jack shit about the Nazis and I have called him out several times in Green's videos comments about a lot of the bullshit he pedals.
+https://ugetube.com/watch/on-the-accusation-that-hitler-was-financed_vqTPugR5Gslfkrg.html
+
+Let's say it is true, Sepeher is ...... doing what? Stoking antisemitism exposing the Jewish gangsters? He is doing our job for us then. There is very little in his videos I disagree with and I have been researching all of this over 20 years. In order to change anything we first have to educate people. Let the chips fall where they may and in the chaos seize power
+--- 14912553
+>>14912502
+>Let the chips fall where they may and in the chaos seize power
+I don't like this mentality since wherever there is chaos, one can easily be manipulated or turned into a puppet for nefarious forces. In the age of Big Data, edge analytics, cloud computing, etc., it is even easier to steer the masses in imperceptible ways. 
+For example, I once read an article from a US senator about how prior to economic downturns, frequency of cues pertaining to social and sexual deviancy are increased in advertisements. This plays a role in maintaining the status quo, and I wish I never lost the article. It was quite an old article too... Social engineering is a real profession where they have to keep what they do confidential.
+Social engineering isn't always easily uncovered, including the overall objective (short and long term).
+--- 14912563
+>>14912553
+My dude I dont like any of it but what is that you think you have any control or say over? 
+
+>Social engineering is a real profession where they have to keep what they do confidential.
+Social engineering isn't always easily uncovered, including the overall objective (short and long term).
+Yes I cover all this on my website I linked above. Are you the Persian fag from before?
+--- 14912579
+>>14912563
+Viable solutions are much harder to arrive at. I think ultimately we must admit that industrialization was a mistake. It has led to problems of an entirely different order that has not existed before; it is fundamentally semi-autonomous and invasive. It strips man of autonomy, privacy, self-reliant ways of life, and etc, making them dependent on a sick and twisted system (e.g., Big Pharma -- check out the book Rockefeller's Medicine Men). I think the number 1 priority should be the destruction of the technological industrial order on a large scale overseen by a non-pozzed world council, so the world could become a stable period like the Middle Ages or other pre-industrial times.
+No solution beyond this will give true lasting stability and order.
+--- 14912592
+>>14912579
+here join my discord if you want
+nHutffY
+--- 14912608
+>>14912435
+GOD DAMN SEMITES, THEY RRUINED ANTI-SEMITISM.
+--- 14912610
+>>14912563
+As Klaus Schwab said "data is the new gold". Don't underestimate how powerful clean data can be in making predictive models. Imagine these models being fine tuned based on game theory is societal settings. Now imagine these models collecting data in real time and sending them to the cloud, for further cleaning, training and refinement, via IoT (Internet of Things). This is a unprecedented amount of power from the technocratic elites.
+It may eventually reach the point of an "Internet of Bodies" as RAND corporation discusses.
+Think about this stuff deeply. We don't live in the past anymore. Everything we do and think is taken into account in their constantly updating models.
+--- 14912616
+>>14912608
+And I do mean it. In a way, Nietzsche made anti-semitism kosher by making it a problem Jews could overcome rather than an intrinsically evil quality. So now we get a bunch of Nietzche fag mischlings.
+--- 14912629
+>>14912610
+>Think about this stuff deeply.
+My dude my degree is in information science. I have been concerned about and warning people about this probably longer than you have been alive
+--- 14912638
+>>14912592
+ I will write a book in the far future if we don't die from artificial famines and riots from disruptions of supply chains. My approach is different.
+We just got done with a scamdemic where they were testing out new nano technologies in jabs.
+They already have research with "injectable self-assembling nano neural meshes" in rats. They inject the rat and then a mesh with electrodes unfurls into their brains. It is potentially possible to collect their brain data and send it to the cloud for further processing and development of simulations and predictive models. This is in the telos of organization tech.
+What I'm saying is the technocratic elite want complete control. Perhaps, this was almost always the case in history, but my point is such capability shouldn't exist, period. Mankind should go back to being a sparse and noble species living in homogenous villages in connection with the land. The only way to do this is to collapse the technological industrial order.
+The 4th industrial revolution has already technically started. In fact, I will say the Government has already been replaced by Microsoft and Amazon. Look at all the Azure and AWS data centers. There are LONG undersea cables connecting them from USA to Europe and China. Do you understand that the technocratic elite are monopolizing data? If the data is the new gold and they monopolize all of our data in servers, what does that mean? It means they are always one step ahead of us with their forecasting and classifications models.
+Being subverted is inevitable unless the industrial order is collapsed..I should remain quiet now because I've already had a FBI visit.
+--- 14912702
+>>14912638
+https://www.nature.com/articles/522137a
+
+^ This research peaked in 2017. I believe it went underground afterwards
+
+"A simple injection is now all it takes to wire up a brain. A diverse team of physicists, neuroscientists and chemists has implanted mouse brains with a rolled-up, silky mesh studded with tiny electronic devices, and shown that it unfurls to spy on and stimulate individual neurons... The next steps will be to implant larger meshes containing hundreds of devices, with different kinds of sensors, and to record activity in mice that are awake, either by fixing their heads in place, or by developing wireless technologies that would record from neurons as the animals moved freely... When Lieber presented the work at a conference in 2014, it “left a few of us with our jaws dropping”, says Yuste... There is huge potential for techniques that can study the activity of large numbers of neurons for a long period of time with only minimal damage, says Jens Schouenborg, head of the Neuronano Research Centre at Lund University in Sweden, who has developed a gelatin-based ‘needle’ for delivering electrodes to the brain..."
+--- 14912876
+>>14909156
+>half-white and half-iranian
+>half-caucasian and half-caucasian
+you do realize what you said is retarded right?
+--- 14912883
+>>14908385
+>Robert Sepehr's dad was a fucking Jew
+Proof?

his/14908564.txt

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+-----
+--- 14908564
+How much did he unironically get right about the fakeness of history?
+--- 14908906
+>>14908564 (OP)
+Basically nothing. I regard the work as a result of the decline of philology.
+--- 14910218
+>>14908564 (OP)
+Who is that
+--- 14911593
+>>14910218
+Russian autist who used tree rings and astr8nomy to "prove" history is fake and russia was kangs all along.
+--- 14911600
+>>14911593
+that's a RUSSIAN? i'd have guessed spaniard or something

his/14908605.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,235 @@
+-----
+--- 14908605
+Why are atheists so gay?
+--- 14908662
+Because the jews told them to be
+--- 14908677
+>>14908605 (OP)
+Less likely to be closeted and self-hating tbqh.
+--- 14908910
+>>14908677
+is that why they have higher suicide and depression rates?
+--- 14908925
+>>14908910
+Atheistsisters...
+--- 14908932
+>>14908605 (OP)
+I have no reason to deny gay people the right to marry. You are unique and different, how does it feel when people want to oppress you because of that? Not good?
+--- 14908943
+>>14908910
+>Smart people are more likely to be depressed
+It's almost as if we didn't know it for decades.
+--- 14908948
+>>14908943
+>smart
+>thinks a man can be a woman
+--- 14908953
+Why are christtards such fags?
+--- 14908954
+>>14908948
+When was that said? Or are you hearing voices again?
+--- 14908960
+>>14908948
+No, that's ridiculous. A trans woman is a woman, not a man, chuddy.
+--- 14908970
+>>14908960
+Trans women are men and kill themselves at 30. Praise the lord.
+
+>>14908943
+Well if that’s the case they should kill themselves too
+--- 14908981
+>>14908948
+I don't believe that but you believe a virgin gave birth to a magic Jew.
+--- 14908987
+>>14908954
+The (((science))) did and the majority of atheists went along with it, even think we aren't doing enough for trannies
+--- 14909012
+>>14908932
+How is not getting a piece of paper oppression
+--- 14909039
+>>14908970
+A Christian wouldn't be happy about suicide. You are just a larper who wants to legitimize his hatred.
+--- 14909394
+>>14909039
+You think, but no i actually attend church and most people don’t like fags there
+--- 14909409
+>>14908605 (OP)
+Gay people getting married doesn't effect or harm me so why should I oppose it?
+--- 14909413
+>>14909039
+Libshit atheists aren't people
+--- 14909428
+>>14908910
+The countries with the highest suicide rates in the world are 99% Christian countries in Africa
+--- 14909442
+>>14908948
+I don't, but I won't scream and kick my feet like some seething toddler if some mentally ill idiot decides to cut of his dick. Why should I even care? American Christians just give way too much of a fuck about other people's lives.
+--- 14909477
+>>14909442
+>Why should I even care?
+Because trannies demand validation from everyone, ie they are dragging society into it
+--- 14909484
+>>14909409
+I guess none of the retards here understand what gay marriage really is about
+--- 14909501
+>>14909484
+It’s when two gay guys get married
+--- 14909518
+>>14908605 (OP)
+Bible explains this
+Romans 1:24-28
+"Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done."
+--- 14909520
+>>14909501
+Think harder, retard.
+--- 14909528
+>>14908605 (OP)
+Why are evangelicals so based?
+--- 14909530
+>>14908605 (OP)
+Impressive, very nice.
+
+Now explain why the 80% irreligious Czech Republic doesn't have gay marriage yet while the 65% Christian USA does
+--- 14909557
+>>14908605 (OP)
+Wtf is going on with black Protestants, I thought niggers hate faggots
+--- 14909578
+>>14909520
+I’m sorry I don’t have schizophrenia
+--- 14909586
+>>14909530
+>The Czech Republic is often considered the most progressive former Eastern Bloc country in regards to lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) rights.[1] In 2006, it legalized registered partnerships (Czech: registrované partnerství) for same-sex couples, and a bill legalizing same-sex marriage was being considered by the Parliament of the Czech Republic before its dissolution for the 2021 Czech legislative election, when it died in the committee stage.
+
+>Czech law bans discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. A 2013 Pew Research Center poll showed that 80% of Czechs thought that homosexuality should be accepted by society, one of the highest rates among the 39 countries surveyed. Opinion polls have found increasing levels of support for same-sex marriage, with more than 67% of Czechs supporting the legalization of same-sex marriage as of 2020. The capital city of Prague is internationally famous and notable for its vibrant LGBT nightlife, community, and openness.
+So atheism in Europe/The Americas = homosexuality.
+>Now explain why the 80% irreligious Czech Republic doesn't have gay marriage yet while the 65% Christian USA does
+
+Civilians vote to elect representatives and those representatives overwhelmingly voted not to "legalize gay marriage", as it had already been legal in some states, but to prevent all 50 states from passing laws against it. Again, civilians typically do not vote on individual issues. At the same time, the level of "rights" afforded to gays is a window into the minds of a society
+--- 14909591
+>>14909409
+>>14909501
+There is not and never will be any such thing as a gay marriage. Two men can't get married, marriage is between a man and a woman by definition. It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
+--- 14909594
+>>14908605 (OP)
+Because atheism is gay.
+--- 14909599
+>>14909586
+The 65% Christian USA has a now-seven-year headstart on gay marriage over the 80% irreligious Czech Republic lol.
+>uhhhh but it's not our fault uhhhh it's the kike politicians and the kike SC justices uhhhh
+Cope more Pastor Tim
+--- 14909612
+>>14909599
+>the kike SC justices
+Yeah, it is. SCOTUS is disproportionately Jewish, and they unilaterally struck down all the anti-sodomite laws that the American people established by their representatives. Dilate
+--- 14909630
+>>14909612
+>Devout American Christians are so politically-incompetent they can't stop Jewish domination of the supreme judicial body in a 65% Christian nation
+grim
+--- 14909643
+>>14909630
+We took out Roe v Wade, Obergefell is next
+--- 14909656
+>>14909578
+There were states that allowed gays to marry before 2015. The "gay marriage issue" is about enforcing it on the ones that didn't. It's about validating the LGBT community, legally stating that a homosexual relationship is no different than a heterosexual one, which is untrue. Gay men are known to be more promiscuous than even women. The lifestyle is completely different; there is this term called metrosexual used to describe a phenomenon of (heterosexual) men in urban areas taking on feminine behavior such as excessive attention to fashion or grooming. The marriage law seeks to validate their culture and way of life. The idea is that the gays are not hurting anyone and keep their business in the bedroom, obviously today these are known to be false
+--- 14909963
+>>14909656
+Yeah they’re being validated because they want to get married and people are not willing to bar them from that
+--- 14909994
+>>14909442
+Nah you're just a submissive little coward.
+--- 14910000
+>>14909963
+Then why wasn't civil unions that grant the exact same rights refused?
+--- 14910003
+>>14909963
+It's VALIDATION OF HOMOSEXUALITY. VALIDATION OF THE HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE THAT USED TO BE LOOKED DOWN ON. YOU STUPID CATTLE.
+--- 14910335
+>>14910000
+If they want to get married I think they should have the right. I think it’s insane that you care so much. 
+
+>>14910003
+Yeah it was looked down on because of religion. People progressed.
+--- 14910424
+>>14910335
+>Yeah it was looked down on because of religion.
+Why did Joseph Stalin dislike homosexuals despite being a rabid atheist?
+>If they want to get married I think they should have the right. I think it’s insane that you care so much.
+You didn't answer his question, zoomer.
+--- 14910520
+>>14908605 (OP)
+These polls are explained by pretty much a linear correlation with frequency of church attendance. White and Black Evangelicals visit the most, so are the least favorable to gay marriage. It is pretty obvious why, given that their faith openly calls sodomy "an abomination". 
+Even relatively moderate and disengaged "religious" people will continue to affiliate for a host of reasons, mostly for the culture or for social benefits. People who are explicitly unaffiliated have generally made a conscious decision to reject the religion, so it makes sense that they also reject its prohibitions on gay sex.
+--- 14910805
+>>14909477
+Okay, why do you care? Have the leftists worship them, I still don't give a shit
+>>14909994
+Says the control freak who gives a fuck about what transgenders of all people think or do
+--- 14910844
+>>14910805
+Because they would destroy my life or even potentially try to kill me if I refused to play along. Even something as tame as accidentally misgendering someone could get me investigated and put my income, and thus entire life, in jeopardy.
+--- 14910849
+>>14908605 (OP)
+Because the church says they're evil for being gay and sends them away
+--- 14910911
+>can't come up with reasons gays are bad other than "muh bible"
+>people who don't believe in your bible don't think gays are bad
+simple as
+--- 14911097
+>>14910911
+Molest kids. Spread disease
+--- 14911122
+>>14911097
+Yep, that's what your pastors and priests do.
+--- 14911788
+>>14909599
+>it's the kike politicians and the kike SC justices uhhhh
+Fucking California voted against homosexual marriage when they had the choice. What happened next? It was thrown out by the courts, and the courts decision was enforced by the politicians.
+--- 14911799
+>>14911122
+How many STDs have pastors created?
+--- 14911801
+>>14910805
+Why do you care if they bring you into their mental illness? Why do you care if they shoot up schools?
+--- 14911813
+>>14911122
+>I'm going to defend LGBT pedophiles by bringing up more examples of LGBT pedophiles
+--- 14911835
+>>14910911
+It's sexual immorality. Simple as.
+--- 14911857
+>>14909591
+What definition? The legal definition is a union between two people.
+--- 14911866
+>>14911857
+Indeed, and there is no reason for the state to subsidize it or allow pederasts to inherit without tax from their sugar daddies etc.
+
+We need a new institution alled "Arriagemay" as a union between a man and a woman in order to form a new household and raise children with particular obligations on the disparte parties.
+--- 14911867
+>>14911857
+>(historically and in some jurisdictions specifically a union between a man and a woman).
+--- 14911891
+>>14911097
+marriage reduces disease rates among heteros as it means an expectation of monogamy, not promiscuous sex, and the height of the AIDS epidemic came well before same-sex marriage was legal. Seems like same-sex marriage would be a good way to reduce it.
+Also I don't think gay child marriages happen much, might be technically legal in parts of the US but the situations where it actually happens (either weirdo evangelical sects or teenage girls getting knocked up and shotgun weddings) don't really apply to homos
+--- 14911929
+>>14911867
+Ok and? Some places/people have a different definition applies to literally anything when it comes to law
+--- 14911934
+>>14911866
+>Two men can’t get married
+>The state shouldn’t let them
+And there go the goalposts
+--- 14911946
+>>14911929
+Every country recognizes male and female marriage
+You were the retard who brought this up
+--- 14911949
+>>14908605 (OP)
+What happened in 2010 to make the percentages across the board go up?
+--- 14911963
+>>14909643
+>Obergefell is next
+Very interesting, and what is your plan to get rid of RFMA which legalized gay marriage at the federal level?
+--- 14911977
+>>14911946
+Yeah and some states do. The point is saying gay marriage goes against the definition of marriage is wrong, unless there’s a different definition.

his/14908617.txt

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+-----
+--- 14909458
+>>14908617 (OP)
+--- 14909759
+>>14908680
+hating Germany is cringe and reddit
+--- 14910451
+>>14908680
+--- 14910541
+>>14910451
+Giving Germany access to the Med is a dangerous game
+--- 14910561
+>>14910451
+Needs more exclaves
+--- 14910580
+>>14908617 (OP)
+ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
+--- 14910582
+>>14910451
+VGH...
+--- 14910599
+>>14908617 (OP)
+what if lee didnt lose order 191 
+*distant ughhhhing*
+--- 14910601
+>>14910451
+
+Sould incorporate hungary, croatia and bosnia
+--- 14910629
+>>14910580
+--- 14910909
+Alternative Timeline: America never signs the Outer Space Treaty and claims land on the Lunar Surface. I only included the relative areas of the Apollo 11 and Apollo 17 landing sites out of sheer laziness. Size is also approximately to scale.
+--- 14910937
+>>14909759
+>>14910451
+just like my hoi4 game!!
+--- 14911159
+>>14910451
+You forgot the Volga Germans, dipshit.
+--- 14911513
+>>14909759
+stop being a walking stereotype
+--- 14911520
+>>14908617 (OP)
+--- 14911671
+>>14908666
+>muzzies in the new world
+worst timeline imaginable
+--- 14911816
+>>14911766
+Dumb. This one is more realistic.

his/14908649.txt

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+-----
+--- 14908649
+If religion makes people moral, then why do atheists commit so much less crime?
+--- 14908700
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Most criminals are low IQ
+--- 14908706
+>>14908649 (OP)
+>sauce
+--- 14908715
+>compliance with the Laws of Man is... le moral!
+--- 14908738
+IQ negatively correlates with both religiosity and criminality.
+--- 14908759
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Is this prior to incarceration? If not, this is a bullshit study and bullshit thread.
+--- 14908806
+It's almost like most atheists are White
+--- 14908828
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Being stupid, impulsive and poor are far bigger factors for comitting crime than your own sense of morality.
+Most atheists are middle class or above.
+--- 14908837
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot.
+--- 14909451
+>>14908700
+>>14908706
+>>14908759
+>>14908800
+>>14908828
+>>14908837
+Atheists are high IQ and moral by their own free will.
+
+Religious people are low IQ and immoral. They only "believe" so they can get a free ticket to heaven.
+--- 14909478
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Because they’re pussies
+--- 14909505
+>>14908649 (OP)
+atheists don't take risks
+--- 14909564
+>>14909505
+According to Christians they take the greatest risk of all
+--- 14909581
+>If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward then, brother, that person is a piece of shit
+--- 14909585
+>>14909564
+Kek owned
+--- 14909587
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Have you met an atheist? I hate using this word, but beta is the perfect description of them. 99% of them think they're badasses for having jaywalked once in their lives. The only reason they even proclaim being atheist is because now it's socially acceptable.
+--- 14909607
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Atheists are absent from everywhere, not just prisons. They're rare in every walk of life. They are a meaningless percentage of the population.
+--- 14909623
+>christians constantly seethe about a meaningless percentage of the population who also happen to be betas
+--- 14909658
+>>14909587
+Have you met a Christian? On their hands and knees worshiping their Jew cult leader. Bunch of turn the other cheek love your enemy weak faggots. You can curbstomp them and they're not allowed to fight back. Weakest men on the planet lmao.
+--- 14909682
+>>14909564
+true but they don't know that
+--- 14909688
+>>14909658
+>You can curbstomp them and they're not allowed to fight back. Weakest men on the planet lmao.
+What are the Crusades?
+--- 14909695
+>>14909688
+Yeah, you're totally a crusader lmao. You're a weak bitch church boy.
+
+Also, they're all going to hell for murder. Jesus was non-violence.
+--- 14909696
+>>14909451
+This is my only argument
+--- 14909706
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Religion is the only thing that gives prison people a sense of order
+--- 14909714
+>>14909587
+VGH look at the raw masculinity of these virile Chads
+--- 14909732
+>>14909695
+>Jesus was non-violence
+Matthew 10:34- “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.”
+John 2:14-15- In the Temple he found people selling cattle, sheep, and doves, as well as moneychangers sitting at their tables. After making a whip out of cords, he drove all of them out of the Temple, including the sheep and the cattle. He scattered the coins of the moneychangers and knocked over their tables.
+
+Yeah, sounds real non-violent to me. I love when atheists try to tell me what a book they've never read actually means.
+--- 14909735
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Atheist is for midwit nerds and pussies
+--- 14909752
+>>14909732
+>Christ's ultimate gesture for mankind was passively accepting the injustice of his execution as an example of God's love
+>BRO HE'S GONNA COME BACK WITH A HECKIN SWORD??? DEUS VULT
+That fucking quote in the first place is a metaphor for Christians tearing apart their family for devotion to the cult, you disingenuous Jew. You would admire such a subversive passage....
+Fucking clown
+--- 14909753
+>>14909732
+Matthew 26:52
+Then Jesus *said to him, “Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword.
+
+Yeah dude, Jesus totally wanted you slaughtering your enemies. You are a goy slave retard and nothing more.
+--- 14909772
+>>14909451
+>their own free will.
+Uh oh...
+--- 14910563
+>>14908649 (OP)
+People tend to become religious during incarceration. The narrative that the majority of criminals were religious before incarceration is bullshit, there is no statistic that can prove that point. Therefore, your take on religion is garbage.
+--- 14910593
+>>14909735
+
+How so anon?
+--- 14910617
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Because only a genuine fool wouldn't fake some sort of religious faith in order to get a lighter sentence.
+--- 14910735
+Atheists are too beta for prison
+--- 14911012
+>>14909682
+Why are they going up the cliff instead of just lingering in the town? Why are they jumping off when they can clearly see a giant monster below? This picture's stupid.
+--- 14911031
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Do atheists become religious when entering prison?
+--- 14911045
+>>14909714
+Larpchriscucks will cope and seethe but the fact of the matter is, 98% of believers look like this
+--- 14911101
+>>14911045
+And this.
+--- 14911310
+>>14908649 (OP)
+wtf i didnt know crime was based
+--- 14911763
+>>14908649 (OP)
+Probably because people don't go out of their way to change their listed religion
+--- 14912816
+>>14909587
+hey, look, a christard arguing for masculinity = criminality, whike using "beta" as an insult. so according to the christard, masculinity = good = criminality.
+--- 14912842
+>>14909682
+>bald fat NTR man goes to hell
+--- 14912845
+>>14908649 (OP)
+because atheists are atheists because they see life as a quest for learning and they want to learn without having moral consequences, except for laws which has actual consequences. So, this explains why irreligious people, Jews and Anglos have higher iq than other religious populations; this is because iq correlates with education and/or economic position, therefore people who dedicate themselves for info end up being irreligious or being part of an elites club (Anglicans or Jews in this case, sometimes freemasons (if they count as a religion))
+And higher iq also correlates with lower crimes, because it implies well-life and/or a life dedicsted to education.
+Personally, i prefer lower iq people. Hifher iq people in my life always has been insufferable smug people and when i talked to them they always said "I already knew that!". I know youcalready know that, the problem is I am having a normal conversation with you. Midwit people are unironically better people, they can function as humans without falling into full retardation or sophistry. Midwit atheists, such as my sister, are also better people than high iq atheists who always have smug attitude with them.
+--- 14912851
+>>14909735
+it is for nerds true but atheists are not always midwit. There are high iq atheists, low iq ones and even midwit ones. They on average (with Anglicans and Jews) are highest iq groups on average which implies they have many high iq individuals eith them.
+I see high iq people's irreligiousness as never-ending thirst for knowledge. Reminds me of that book where doctor makes a deal with satan to be able to reach more info and sells his soul, i cant remember the book's name.
+--- 14912852
+>>14912851
+Doctor Faustus
+--- 14912865
+>>14909587
+Guess we'll inherit the Earth then
+--- 14912887
+>>14909587
+low iq people are unable to acknowledge theology beyond the superstitions (which are banned by their on-paper adhered religion probably) neither they have any reason to claim themselves as atheists as they literally dont care about theology therefore they dont question theology itself.
+low iq atheists exist, and they are literally insufferable and they are only atheist because someone told them "it is very cool to be one". Even though many high iq peope are atheists, these guys also exist. Imagine a "shabayaboey" wesleyan holiness evangelist southern bapticostal but calls himself an atheist and psrrots same sentences for the whole talk (as low iq = low ability to problem solving and proccessing new information)

his/14908732.txt

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+-----
+--- 14908732
+Why is Türkiye the only country in the Islamic world to modernize? Is it because of European genetics?
+--- 14908736
+>>14908732 (OP)
+Turkey*
+--- 14908741
+>>14908732 (OP)
+Turks are racially superior to Arabs.
+--- 14908753
+>>14908741
+No we're not, all races are equal
+--- 14908761
+I can almost see panties lel
+--- 14908775
+>>14908732 (OP)
+Why do you post actors and not average people?
+--- 14908839
+>>14908775
+I don't look like this
+--- 14908846
+>>14908753
+Okay then Turkish Culture is superior to Arab culture.
+--- 14908854
+>>14908846
+That is subjective
+--- 14908862
+>>14908753
+Fuck off kike
+--- 14908874
+>>14908839
+Your thread is about the average Turk. They do look like this.
+--- 14908887
+Because of this dude.
+--- 14908899
+I will never spell it in that ridiculous way
+--- 14908923
+>>14908732 (OP)
+What exactly does "modernize" mean
+--- 14908934
+>>14908899
+It's not just the spelling, it's some gay ass new pronunciation too, something like Tyur-key-yeh or something
+t. flew Turkish airlines once
+--- 14908982
+>>14908874
+No, you can't generalize a people group
+--- 14909013
+>>14908753
+>all races are equal
+Obviously that's not true.
+--- 14909019
+>>14909013
+If you put whole races in the same situations, the outcome would be the same, there's nothing beyond appearance that can be attributed to be inherent to them
+--- 14909042
+>>14908899
+>>14908934
+Why do countries even do this? It's like Kiev all over again.
+
+Do the Turks really think the fact that their country shares a spelling and pronunciation with a bird in English actually effects how Turkey is perceived by foreigners?
+
+In general, I think placename spelling changes tend to have an overall negative effect. Because they undermine historical associations people have with places.
+
+"Burma" brings to mind all kinds of nostalgic images, and sounds like a fascinating, exotic place to go on holidays. "Myanmar" sounds like, well... not much. "Persia" was a great ancient civilisation, "Iran" sounds like... Iran. "Peking" was a quaint and mysterious imperial seat, "Beijing" sounds like... just Beijing. Ditto for "Bombay" and "Mumbai." And while the Deus Vult types have run it into the ground, yes Constantinople sounds a lot grander than Instanbul, even if it's nobody's business but the Turks in the end.
+
+Is it just a power thing?
+--- 14909086
+>>14908887
+based attaturk enabling Turkey to have sexy westernized women on the covers of magazines a 100 years later
+--- 14909114
+>>14908732 (OP)
+>Türkiye
+My understanding of English means that based on this spelling, Turkey (Tur-key/Turk/ey) is now to be pronounced Tu-ur-ki-ye?
+--- 14909127
+>>14909114
+>>14908934
+--- 14909170
+>>14909019
+We have situations where you put races in worse conditions and one still ends up being better. It's ridiculous to say evolution affects everything but somehow stops inside your head.
+--- 14909383
+>>14908982
+You can that's the entire point of your thread. You are making a generalization in the OP and I'm disagreeing because Turks do not have "more European blood" than Arabs like Syrians or the like.
+
+You are all brown.
+--- 14909524
+>>14908839
+>I don't look like this
+--- 14909534
+>>14908732 (OP)
+The problem of getting outcompeted by the European powers led the Ottomans to try to modernise their army, navy and bureaucracy in the mid-1800s by creating an ultra-modern academy system staffed by foreign-educated tutors pushing the latest in European ideas. The idea was that by studying European thought, the Ottomans would catch up and regain their position as a true great power.
+
+This resulted in the emergence of a radically positivist Turkish elite who were obsessed with science and rationality and who despised metaphysics and superstition. Ataturk didn't emerge out of a vacuum - he was part of a wave of Young Turks who were cultishly obsessed with the philosophy of Comte. And it was this elite as a whole who prosecuted a war on superstition and ignorance in Turkey. Even though Erdogan wrested control over the main levers in power away from them the country has changed too much for him to ever implement the kind of Islamist agenda most people thought he would go for.
+--- 14910493
+>>14909524
+I kneel
+--- 14910501
+>>14909042
+Whether or not you support Ukraine, Kyiv was justified because Kiev is a Russian transliteration and they wanted to respell it as a way to show their independence
+--- 14910503
+>>14908732 (OP)
+>What is Indonesia
+--- 14910525
+>>14909042
+Peking and Beijing are pronunced the same way.
+--- 14910537
+>>14909042
+Anglicisations naturally make you feel more nostalgic and attached to it. They've psyoped us to the point where we'd even feel racist for mispronouncing a foreign name or criticizing a foreigner's indecipherable accent.
+--- 14910546
+>>14908732 (OP)
+Ataturk brute forcing modernization+Balkan Turks bringing back western ideas from Austria Hungary and Greece
+--- 14910549
+>>14910525
+Not when pronounced in English
+--- 14910594
+>>14908732 (OP)
+>Is it because of European genetics?
+
+Considering that the Anatolian farmer genes came from Anatolia/modern day Turkey, isn't it the other way around? Also you're pretty stupid if you don't think Indonesia is modernizing at a rapid rate, it's the largest Muslim country in the world.
+--- 14910614
+Turkeyay?
+--- 14910789
+>>14909524
+>>14910493
+--- 14910799
+>>14910501
+I'm less irritated by the spelling change than by the media's decree that it is pronounced as keev, which it is not. The Ukrainians pronounce it key-iv, which is only slightly different from the Russian key-ev.
+--- 14910804
+>>14909042
+Why is it never European countries that get super butthurt over how foreigners pronounce their name? For example in the Anglosphere everyone says Munich, Bavaria, Germany instead of Munchen, Bayern, Deutschland and it's not some big international incident.
+--- 14910820
+>>14909042
+Very good post. I remember some Iranian seething at a foreigner who pronounced his country "I-ran", to be promptly corrected"
+>it's e-ran, pronounce the name od my country properly!
+What would these dumbasses have us do? Learn how to articulate clicks and gulps to properly pronounce the names African or SEA villages?
+>No, it's not Bucharest. It's București!
+--- 14910860
+>>14910804
+I'm Dutch and i Don't care if foreigners call us Holland (Then again i live in the Holland part)
+--- 14911416
+>>14908982
+ngl bro, this looks really pathetic on your part
+--- 14911441
+>>14910804
+Because those names came naturally from people translating them in their own language, instead of having colonizers bastardise the names or make them up.
+Turkiye tho was just Erdogan's autism
+--- 14911447
+>>14909019
+People create their situation based on their behavioral genetics.
+--- 14912077
+>>14909170
+you are stuck on the 19th century.
+--- 14912107
+>>14908732 (OP)
+>Is it because of European genetics?
+HAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHH... AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAJAJAJAJANAHAHAHAHANSNSKANANSJSAJANAJAHAAHAHA
+--- 14912165
+>>14912077
+I assume you have noticed that some people are different to other people. Do you accept that individuals vary in behavior, personality and intelligence due to their genetics?

his/14908748.txt

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+-----
+--- 14908748
+https://mullerornis.medium.com/on-the-scythian-pantheon-44781876b6ef
+--- 14908756
+>>14908748 (OP)
+>ossetian
+Another russian made meme ethnicity
+--- 14908827
+>>14908756
+I didn't ask for your opinion
+--- 14909305
+>>14908827
+He is right. Ossetians are confused Georgians.
+--- 14909308
+>>14909305
+I don't care, nor did I ask
+--- 14910047
+does anyone have the webm of armenian looking ossetian girls talking about alans,aryans and being extremely racist
+--- 14910367
+>>14910047
+--- 14910384
+>>14910367
+
+Anon this is a blue board
+--- 14910778
+>>14910047
+>>14910367
+lmao so delusional
+--- 14910788
+>>14910047
+>>14910367
+>Armenians
+Those bitches look like kazakh hapas
+--- 14910795
+>>14910778
+
+Well he has to maintain pretenses, i dont think hes 'delusional' he seems to know exactly what hes doing, the girls are just too based for his 'delusion'
+--- 14910830
+>>14910795
+yes meant those delusional armenossetian chicks
+--- 14910847
+>>14910830
+
+What are they delusional about?
+--- 14910942
+>>14910847
+>we're pureblood aryans
+>hitler wouldn't touch us
+--- 14910984
+>>14910942
+>essentialy indo-european
+>nazis routinely made aliances with local ethnic groups propping up puppet states and raising ss divisions
+
+So what did they get wrong there?
+--- 14911020
+>>14910984
+gypsies are indo-european aryans
+nazism turned out great for them eh? remember armenoids are one step above gypsies
+--- 14911291
+>>14910367
+girl on the left kinda cute doe, the chudette looks indonesian ick
+--- 14911294
+>>14910367
+what did she saw?
+--- 14911853
+>>14911294
+Bbc
+--- 14912624
+>>14910047
+>>14910367
+>>14910830
+That's literally what georgians/azeris look like, you gotta stop lying at some point man lmao. Turkic traits like this are something I only see from Georgians or Circassians more than anyone else. Armenians don't have beady pitch black eyes like that, that's a G/J2 exclusive. Why do georgians like to lie so much?

his/14908801.txt

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+-----
+--- 14908801
+Muslim builders were abundand and cheap in medieval Spain, and a lot of people relied on them instead of the expensive christian builders. This happened because muslims relied more on brick while christian builders relied more on stone, and brick was cheaper than stone.
+
+This buildings imitated christian structures but using islamic motives for decoration, like blind horseshoe arches in the exterior and carved plaster in the interior.
+
+Pic of actual mudejar churches and a medieval illustration of one.
+--- 14908941
+>>14908801 (OP)
+they made nice houses. Reject modernity
+--- 14909082
+>>14908941
+I don't think those houses are from that period though.
+--- 14909119
+>>14908941
+Those houses weren't made by them, retard, lmao. It couldnt be farthest from the truth actually. Granada's muslim population was pretty much erradicated after the Reconquista, and it's population was replaced by christian iberians from all over the peninsula.
+--- 14909196
+>>14908941
+These houses are modern and foundable across all south Europe because that design dates back to roman times
+--- 14910394
+>>14908941
+The state of /his/
+--- 14911960
+>>14908801 (OP)
+>>14909082
+Peterson, Andrew (1994). Dictionary of Islamic Architecture. London: Routledge. ISBN 0-415-06084-2
+--- 14911968
+>>14911960
+what did he mean by this
+--- 14912089
+>>14908801 (OP)
+>implying muslims would build places of idolatry
+--- 14912134
+>>14911968
+Autism

his/14909016.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,33 @@
+-----
+--- 14909016
+If Pope John Paul II was so great then why didn't he fully reverse all the stupid stuff implemented out of Vatican 2? 
+I'm not saying V2 is invalid at all, just that its interpretation led to a lot of stupid stuff. 
+At least he could have enforced going back to a more traditional version of the liturgy
+--- 14909593
+I've noticed this board never has anything to say about JP2 lol
+--- 14909737
+>>14909593
+It was a long time ago
+--- 14910241
+>>14909737
+Made multiple threads on this guy and they never get any replies
+--- 14910245
+>>14909016 (OP)
+polish chud
+--- 14910323
+>>14909016 (OP)
+>If.
+--- 14910336
+>>14909016 (OP)
+He is worshipped by Boomers because he "defeated le communism". Most people who post in this board are too young to remember him, but he was basically a milketoast globohomo pope.
+--- 14911829
+>>14909016 (OP)
+I think he said at the beginning of his reign that his goal was a furtherance of Vatican II so he was all in on it.
+
+http://williamsonletters.blogspot.com/2009/02/pope-john-paul-ii-thinking-on-prayer.html
+http://williamsonletters.blogspot.com/2009/02/john-paul-iis-thinking-on-meeting-of.html
+--- 14911875
+>>14910336
+He's beloved precisely because he was normie friendly. I come from a post-communist shithole and the fact that he supposedly "defeated communism" (lol) isn't even a factor despite the fact that Catholics are obviously very anti-commie.
+--- 14912008
+Because Vatican 2 was good

his/14909027.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,435 @@
+-----
+--- 14909027
+NPC activity
+--- 14909046
+(to the tune of There Is a Tavern in the Town)
+
+Larp, cringe, unhinged, deranged - hinged, deranged
+Larp, cringe, unhinged, deranged - hinged, deranged
+My belief is much better than yours
+Larp, cringe, unhinged, deranged - hinged, deranged
+--- 14909048
+An NPC activity is calling people NPC
+--- 14909079
+>>14909027 (OP)
+Seethe jew
+--- 14909088
+>>14909079
+Any religion is an NPC activity.
+--- 14909089
+>>14909088
+Judaism is a tribe
+--- 14909092
+>>14909089
+And? I have a foreskin, I bet your dick is not even intact, crypto-jew. Suck it
+--- 14909095
+>>14909027 (OP)
+its a social club and they are ok if you disagree with the rules because that brands you as a troublemaker contrarian (not welcome). Smart people understand the rules
+--- 14909105
+>>14909095
+Smart people don't spend time around NPCs. You'd have to be really desperate to stoop that low just to socialize with subhumans.
+--- 14909106
+>>14909092
+Whose foreskin is it?
+--- 14909111
+Christianity will die with boomers.
+--- 14909123
+>>14909105
+>Smart people don't spend time around NPCs
+They spend their time alone and miserable then, rejecting everyone they have ever known
+--- 14909132
+>>14909106
+Mine, since birth
+--- 14909138
+>>14909123
+The world isn't just dum dum NPCs herded into religions, there are also people capable of autonomous thought. Those have souls.
+--- 14909159
+>>14909111
+Atheism will die with boomers and atheists like you will hang themselves because le nothing matters
+--- 14909166
+>>14909138
+>there are also people capable of autonomous thought
+Name one
+--- 14909169
+The decline in christianity is proof of the end times coming 2030 AD
+--- 14909181
+>>14909169
+>decline in christianity
+Total numbers are rising all thanks to Sub Saharan Africa
+--- 14909191
+>>14909111
+And Atheism with die with Xoomers. The return of Odin is around the corner faggots
+--- 14909199
+>>14909181
+Yes. The future of Christendom will be Africa.
+Chuda really have been mindbroken. They worship a jew in a jew religion practiced primarily by blacks and still think they're the master race
+--- 14909214
+>>14909027 (OP)
+There's noone under 35 in this picture except for one kid who looks like he hates being there
+--- 14909218
+>>14909191
+With all these cosplay pagans popping up, you're not wrong. And honestly, I would rather have tame liberal "neopagans" using ancient dead gods as puppets for christian stories than more televangelists, young earth creationists or halfwit apologists on the internet.
+--- 14909293
+>>14909166
+Me
+My friends
+My coworkers
+--- 14909299
+>>14909027 (OP)
+Christcuckery is based
+going to church is cringe
+--- 14909300
+>>14909138
+Everyone has a soul, those people just choose to be retards.
+--- 14909302
+>>14909293
+>Me
+Name a single original thought you ever had in your life. A concept no one else thought off
+--- 14909320
+>>14909302
+NTA this is easy for me
+I'm actually a genius probably smarter than every person on this board
+--- 14909327
+>>14909320
+Ok so what original concept did you came with?
+--- 14909338
+>>14909327
+Okay this is one important thing because I don't consider this thread worthy of me. When I was about six I became enlightened. I realized that every soul on Earth decides to reincarnate here. Not forced to, or created here. For a decade and longer I've been trying to allow people to know this but they reject it for lies attributed to Jesus or attributed to Buddha because they choose to live in fear and hatred.
+--- 14909346
+>>14909338
+And whats that original thought you said you had?
+--- 14909355
+>>14909299
+You can't separate the two
+--- 14909359
+>>14909346
+What I just posted. At the age of six I wouldn't have ever heard such a thing from anyone else so I can guarantee it was my own invention even if someone else said it before at one point.
+
+If you want something truly original, I realized early on that the NPC meme is a divine joke. A meme exists as many people reposting the same thing someone else said, but all these people posting NPC meme think they're original free thinkers against the stupid masses. I've spoken to so many who just repost those predictable lines retards say. And it's depicted as a wojak which is extremely soulless and overused, maybe the most soulless ever meme.
+--- 14909362
+>>14909302
+>Name a single original thought you ever had in your life.
+I published peer-reviewed articles in my field, presenting novel solutions I came up with.
+
+You don't have to be original to think critically.
+--- 14909364
+Why does this board keep resembling /x/ botpost spam more and more everyday
+--- 14909367
+>>14909362
+Very based good for you
+--- 14909368
+>>14909364
+religious posters belong on /x/
+--- 14909374
+>>14909368
+They belong on /rg/
+--- 14909379
+>>14909355
+yes you can the fuck?
+
+I can believe in christ without having to spend 2 hours on a Sunday singing shit hymns and pretending to like the other retard boomers there
+--- 14909380
+>>14909359
+>At the age of six I wouldn't have ever heard such a thing from anyone
+Reincarnarnation isnt an original thought no one had before. Its an extremely old concept, i also dont believe you somehow reinvented it independently, but even if you did (you didnt) you still fail the test because i asked you for a concept no one ever thought before, theres no "independently rediscovered" escape clause
+--- 14909384
+>>14909362
+>presenting novel solutions I came up with.
+Name them
+--- 14909395
+>>14909380
+>theres no "independently rediscovered" escape clause
+Hmmm why not? That's pretty stupid because there are so many people on this planet. The test is to demonstrate that you can invent something new, someone else thinking it millions of miles away doesn't stop that from being meaningful. For the record I don't actually approve of this kind of discussion used to bring people down, it's just that sometimes I can't help but brag about my accomplishments.
+>Its an extremely old concept,
+I don't think I'd even been exposed to reincarnation at that age, and my realization on it defiantly not.
+--- 14909407
+>>14909395
+>Hmmm why not?
+Because i specifically asked you for an original thought and you took the bait
+--- 14909417
+>>14909407
+I've also written twenty four short stories I've had published and self-published. I expect you to believe me and I am not posting it as that will forgo my anonymity.
+--- 14909424
+>>14909379
+You can't because Christ himself makes explicit references to a church, and his whole shtick is based on the messianic prophecy of a religion that was practiced in synagogues
+--- 14909427
+>>14909424
+Post verses
+--- 14909429
+>>14909384
+>dox yourself
+hard pass
+It was in STEM, I'll tell you that much
+--- 14909434
+>>14909427
+
+Mat 16:18
+And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
+
+Mat 18:17
+And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.
+--- 14909435
+>>14909429
+His intention here is to make other people depressed and feel demotivated, don't feel bad if he insults you again
+--- 14909440
+>>14909435
+I thought his intention was to make a retard of himself. I never said anything about originality, he confuses autonomous thought with producing original content do not steal
+--- 14909446
+>>14909417
+I believe you on that, i dont believe you didnt know about reincarnation by age 6, if you knew about souls you knew about reincarnation, you just dont remember when you learn about all kinds of ideas from the world when you are a child.
+Something like original mathematical research would count as new ideas, or new scientific ideas too. Experimental science is useful to bring about new knowledge to the world but the new knowledge comes from nature and not from the experimenter's mind.
+--- 14909448
+>>14909424
+>>14909434
+complete rertard
+--- 14909464
+>>14909448
+I just btfo'd you with verses where Christ makes explicit references to a church, his church even. Anything else?
+--- 14909485
+>>14909446
+Thank you for believing me.
+I have a very good memory, I have many memories of when I was three years old and I've verified my accounts of the interiors of buildings and the schedule of nursery to be accurate, but no one can remember conversations I remember but they probably wouldn't. I am certain I came up with that when I was six because I associate the memory with being in a classroom I had at that age. At eleven I wrote it in my diary, I don't think even at that age I'd have encountered someone who'd tell me this.
+
+>Something like original mathematical research would count as new ideas,
+Do you not think art is important? Few people will be positively affected by math unless it's used for a machine.
+--- 14909496
+>>14909434
+Neither of those verses support your argument
+--- 14909510
+>>14909027 (OP)
+Atheism is dysgenic.
+--- 14909538
+>>14909355
+It’s no necessary. It’s what you do in your life that matters. Smokin pot all day, getting SSRIs and having degenerate casual sex (whether it’s with a man, woman, child or animal) is disgusting and not only do you deserve eternal torment but someone should kill you to send you there.
+--- 14909553
+>>14909027 (OP)
+--- 14909561
+>>14909553
+Average chud when he touches grass
+--- 14909563
+>>14909496
+How so?
+--- 14909567
+>>14909553
+lmao
+--- 14909568
+>>14909510
+Atheism is accepting reality.
+--- 14909652
+>>14909563
+How do they say that you need to go to church to be a christian?
+--- 14909960
+>>14909652
+>And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church.
+That implies going to the church.
+--- 14909969
+>>14909088
+That's rich coming from the 15 year old Redditor drone
+--- 14909978
+>>14909568
+Like what? Men can have penises and Earths life is the result of a space fart?
+--- 14909982
+>>14909978
+Like there has never been any convincing evidence of any god.
+--- 14909991
+>>14909982
+And all religious stories are legends and myths. Or you think shit like Jonah and the Whale is actually real?
+--- 14909998
+>>14909978
+Yes men do have penises, it's basic biology.
+
+>Earths life is the result of a space fart?
+>And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
+According to you Yahweh is the one who literally farted directly into our noses to give us life
+--- 14910004
+>>14909960
+No it doesn't, it says tell it to a christian authority if he refuses to be christian so they can do their best to convince him in a peaceful and polite manner.
+--- 14910015
+>>14910004
+>it says tell it to a christian authority
+But it says "church" not "christian authority". Cope
+
+Who was Paul addressing in his letters if not the churches of various places?
+--- 14910029
+>>14909998
+Religion has the virtue of not having to be interpreted literally verbatim, where as your scientific nonsense jargon is seemingly aloud to maintain validity while making a 180 every other decade
+--- 14910033
+>>14910015
+A church is a christian authority
+>Who was Paul addressing in his letters if not the churches of various places?
+His followers whose purpose was to corrupt the early churches and make them into a method to control people.
+--- 14910039
+>>14909982
+It's funny how you retards ask for evidence, and then when someone discovered penicillin "on accident," or when a bunch of sandal wearing religious people defeated USA in a war, that shits just magic eh?
+--- 14910057
+>>14910039
+Yes, Allah willed the Mujahideens to win against the Great Satan.
+--- 14910063
+>>14910039
+Are you suggesting that the only reason penicillin was invented and America lost that war was because of God?
+--- 14910065
+>>14910057
+Well, a bunch of religious people prayed to God to get rid of the pro-faggot heathens from their lands and uhhhhhhh they got their way
+--- 14910070
+>>14910063
+Yes that's what I'm saying you fuckin bitch. Both are literally miracles. It's a miracle we discovered penicillin. It's a miracle goat herders defeated USA. Among countless other examples
+--- 14910103
+>>14910070
+America lost the war because they were devoted and persistent guerrillas defending their land
+Penicillin isn't particularly unlikely out of other discoveries
+You're an idiot because you're attributing anything slightly unlikely as being caused by God
+--- 14910113
+>>14910103
+>devoted
+To?
+--- 14910118
+>>14910103
+>unlikely out of other discoveries
+What, completely random or accidental? Thanks for another point proving my case, retard nigger
+--- 14910121
+>>14910113
+Fighting for their religious cause. Stop being ridiculous.
+>>14910118
+Not really accidental
+--- 14910125
+>>14910121
+>Fighting for.their religious cause
+IE GOD you moron
+>Not accidental 
+What leaving a petri dish and randomly discovering life changing mold is le science and not a miracle? Kek
+--- 14910146
+>>14910125
+The point is they were devoted and wouldn't stop fighting
+>What leaving a petri dish and randomly discovering life changing mold is le science and not a miracle?
+It's a matter of chance and not proof of God. What you are saying is 80IQ tier. Hundreds of men were studying petri dishes at the time.
+--- 14910171
+>>14910146
+Lmao your points here necessitate a bigger chance of faith that Noah's ark.
+
+>They devoted themselves to a higher power and accidentally won against tech centuries better than them. So what!
+Ahahahahhahaha
+--- 14910193
+>>14910171
+They were not using bow and arrows and muskets they were using modern weapons. They were fighting for years and finally managed to break free. If God were supporting them what would the point of all that be?
+--- 14910204
+>>14910193
+Lmao they were using AKs made in 1987 and improvised explosives, which topped a modern air force with infrared/satellite, intelligence capabilities.
+--- 14910222
+>>14910204
+>1987
+That isn't centuries old and remains formidable against modern weapons. They were fighting against what are essentially mercenaries, probably very few of those American soldiers cared about their cause.
+--- 14910223
+>>14910193
+>If God were supporting them what would the point of all that be?
+Free will. The average afghani that believes in God is 10,000 happier than you're average atheist slob in any US city
+--- 14910235
+>>14910222
+Pffffft hahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
+>Dude ak47s and camels are literally the same as artillery and stealth bombers 
+Ahhhahahahahahahhaha
+--- 14910258
+>>14910223
+That doesn't answer the question, why didn't God make them win immediately?
+
+>>14910235
+It's quite possible as guerrillas in large numbers against enemies who have no personal stakes in the war
+--- 14910271
+>>14910258
+Because the balance of God has never came about with immediate results. Also it's funny you say there was no stake, as US soldiers have died more from suicide than war, and they still lost.
+
+Ahahahahhahahahaha
+--- 14910289
+>>14910171
+>Lmao your points here necessitate a bigger chance of faith that Noah's ark.
+No it doesn't
+--- 14910295
+>>14910271
+>Because the balance of God has never came about with immediate results.
+Why? Why doesn't God just make His chosen side win?
+The stakes were death of course, but none of those soldiers believed they were fighting for America.
+--- 14910307
+>>14910289
+>>14910295
+>Because God didnt make the religious win immediately is proof why underdeveloped farmers killed USA in a war
+
+Ahhhhhahhahahaahhaahhaa
+--- 14910312
+>>14910307
+Why doesn't God make the chosen side win immediately and not cause them to die?
+All of those afghan soldiers were trained and disciplined like any western soldier, and were very willing to die for their cause unlike American soldiers.
+--- 14910319
+>>14910307
+I love it when schizos start hahahahahahahahahahahahaposting, it's epic joker cringekino.
+--- 14910952
+>>14909027 (OP)
+Seriously what did everyone do at church?
+I just blanked out and hoped that the service would be over quickly. Shit was boring and dour as fuck.
+--- 14910980
+>>14910952
+Maintain appearances and chit chat at the beginning of the service.
+--- 14910991
+>>14909046
+>(to the tune of There Is a Tavern in the Town)
+You mean "Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes?"
+--- 14910997
+>>14909111
+>Christianity will die with boomers.
+Didn't die with Rome or under the Ottomans, or even from itself. She will survive in the south
+--- 14911028
+>>14909169
+>The decline in christianity is proof of the end times coming 2030 AD
+That's retarded
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t1ggukifT8 [Embed] 
+He will only come when the world is ready to recieve him. If Christianity declined to only a handful, that's a setback. Not an advance
+--- 14911030
+>>14909111
+Said a billion enemies of the Church in 2k years. Outlasted them all. 
+Its going nowhere.
+--- 14911041
+>>14910057
+And Allah willed the destruction of the Islamic forces at Lepanto
+--- 14911079
+>>14911030
+Yeah because people had a strong faith back them. Faith has vanished and monasteries and churches are withering.
+If there's no one to defend it, it shall perish.
+--- 14911161
+>>14910952
+>Seriously what did everyone do at church?
+Partake in the Final Sacrifice
+--- 14911166
+>>14911079
+Read the OT. It always comes in waves
+--- 14911172
+>>14911079
+Faith is stupid, facts not feelings nigger.
+--- 14911193
+>>14911172
+The facts point to total christcuck death
+--- 14911207
+>>14911166
+Well it's been like 150 years since that quote and things don't seem to be improving. Besides, the OT is just fan fiction, there were no "waves", nor Moses nor exodus nor anything.
+--- 14911211
+>>14909169
+>2030 AD
+Your book says no one knows the hour
+Your claim is not only bullshit, but heretical as well
+All that's listed in reference to end of this system of things has been present throughout history
+--- 14911215
+>>14911207
+>>14911193
+>>14911193
+>>14911172
+>>14911166
+>>14911161
+>>14909027 (OP)
+meds, immediately
+--- 14911226
+>>14911215
+Not being a delusional christkike, I don't need meds.
+--- 14911250
+>>14910039
+>defeated USA in a war
+They hid until the USA came to an agreement to end the occupation. Every time they actually fought the sandniggers got annihilated.
+--- 14911605
+>>14909079
+hey don't lump me in with the atheists

his/14909077.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,80 @@
+-----
+--- 14909077
+why do all people from all countries from all time periods hate the jews?
+--- 14909087
+>>14909077 (OP)
+>why do all people from all countries from all time periods hate the jews?
+Incorrect. There are several notable exceptions. But most of the societies that hated Jews weren’t free so I don’t think you’d want to emulate them
+--- 14909122
+>>14909077 (OP)
+Despite the existence of Israel, Jews remain a diaspora at heart, in that they prioritize their own people's survival above all else even at the expense of their host nations. You can't really blame them for this given how routinely they've been nearly wiped out throughout history, but you can also understand why many still do not trust them. It's not as straightforward as "Jews are purely evil" or "Jews are purely good" - they're a complicated group with a troubled history which still sees itself as an eternal outsider. What's more, in Judaism, only the Jews are chosen by God - meaning that they see their lives as innately more valuable / holy than all others. This also rubs people the wrong way throughout history.
+--- 14909125
+>>14909077 (OP)
+Because of their actions
+--- 14909131
+>>14909122
+Na jews are evil and a menace to all that is good
+--- 14909157
+>>14909131
+Is it really evil to do anything and everything to survive? Personally, I can't really blame them for that mindset. Their history has been pretty much nonstop war, genocide, exile and foreign occupation.
+--- 14909158
+>>14909077 (OP)
+Purely socioeconomic reasons
+--- 14909238
+>>14909157
+Jews promote civil unrest through the media
+This should be categorically unacceptable to people who have to live with the consequences of their propaganda.
+Before the Industrial Revolution 90% of people were poor serfs. Now we have a large middle class, and jews absolutely have taken advantage - half of them live in households making at least 100k per year. Their evil is not about survival, they are nation wreckers and I cannot sit idly by while they destroy my home. regardless of what their ancestors have been through. Can't do it.
+--- 14909241
+pure coincidence
+
+serious answer: because they refuse(d) to be assimilated by the majority and maintained closed community, which naturally leads to antipathy by the others
+--- 14909258
+They make deals/alliances with the elite to exploit the middle and lower class, which they feel no kinship with due to being a different ethnicity and religion
+--- 14910442
+>>14909238
+When yte people become successful its the American dream, but when Jews become successful, its always a conspiracy
+--- 14910478
+>>14910442
+--- 14910526
+>>14909077 (OP)
+>nepotism
+>hypocrites
+>no loyalty to their host nation
+>all attempts to assimilate them have been a failure
+>blame society for their shortcomings
+--- 14910600
+>>14909077 (OP)
+>all countries
+
+I doubt the people of Ghana hold a sharp antisemitic hatred towards Jews. It's really just a European problem.
+--- 14910610
+>>14910478
+No he's right. You know black people see you big nosed, light skinned people the exact same way as you see your big nosed, light skinned people (Ashkenazi Jews) right? Why is it fine for you to lump them all into one category while it's "anti-white" for black people to do the same?
+--- 14910884
+>>14910610
+This is blacks without whitey
+--- 14910890
+>>14909077 (OP)
+Jews are racist lunatics
+--- 14910902
+>>14910610
+The fact you just equated us to blacks shows you are racial supremacist psychos you jew scum
+>Thats right goy only we are humans while you are niggers
+--- 14910929
+>>14910442
+the problem is how they use their influence. No one would care about jews being overrepresented here and there if they used their influence for the good of the country.
+--- 14910968
+>>14909077 (OP)
+Are there any countries where Jews assimilated and didn't get kicked out of even once? USA and Argentina are the only ones i can think of
+--- 14910979
+>>14910968
+Jews never assimiliate they simply blend in to make their subversion more efficient. Its actually smarter to force jews to be culturally distinct so you can easily pop them and avoid an AshkenWHITEY situation.
+--- 14910985
+>>14910968
+Russia
+--- 14911855
+>>14910610
+Hello
+--- 14911858
+>>14911855

his/14909163.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,74 @@
+-----
+--- 14909163
+>here’s your flag bro
+This was the first flag of soviet Russia, the inspiring design of…the abbreviation of the official government name on a regular red flag, an astonishing improver over the previous communist design of…a regular plain red flag.
+
+Soviet aesthetics are incredibly dull and uninspired, it’s all flavorless cost effective boring and drab shit with all the inspiring romanticism of a mid level bureaucratic manager. Don’t know why people attribute soviet propaganda as being “badass” when it’s really incredibly dull and boring. A lot of the more exciting propaganda posters simply copied western style art deco designs that were popular in the 30s. They sucked at aesthetics.
+--- 14909167
+>>14909163 (OP)
+Let me guess, you “need” more than this?
+--- 14909171
+>>14909167
+I’m saying that soviet aesthetics were boring and uninspired which reflects on their complete lack of “soul”
+--- 14909176
+>>14909167
+I need more jews in ovens
+--- 14909239
+>>14909167
+Why do you want everything to be ugly?
+--- 14909418
+>>14909163 (OP)
+--- 14909508
+>>14909418
+This at least has a laurel wreath and it’s more about the eagle of Jupiter than the flag.
+--- 14909516
+>>14909418
+SOVL
+>>14909163 (OP)
+Soulless
+--- 14909531
+>>14909163 (OP)
+Red is a warm color, but I think communist aesthetics tend to show red flags and banners in motion or being waved around or whipping in the wind more than as a static 2D images laid out flat. More like a wave. Chinese propaganda-documentary about the origin of the PRC flag which draws on similar aesthetic language:
+
+https://youtu.be/NqAOzmLJmYA [Embed]
+--- 14909572
+Another example. You see this in the poster art a lot. The flag is meant to be flown. 
+
+I think this cartoon was made in the USSR, it's like a red wave:
+
+https://youtu.be/zZqVOFSYRWI?t=143 [Embed]
+--- 14909583
+For me, it's the Old Libyan flag
+--- 14909619
+>>14909163 (OP)
+Soviet propaganda only got good when it essentially plagiarized from imperial propaganda an aesthetics and merely modernized it a bit to fit with socialism
+--- 14909624
+Also if you wanna see some insane and over-the-top propaganda with the red in motion (from China) it's this:
+
+https://youtu.be/szjxpbGhjTM?t=177 [Embed]
+--- 14909665
+>>14909418
+The banner was rarely flown by itself
+--- 14909700
+>>14909418
+At the time dyeing was far less advanced, it has cool leaves and a based eagle standard and is carried by a mascot wearing animal skins.
+--- 14909705
+the plain red flag is the international socialist flag and had been one for decades by the time of the Russian Revolution. 
+It flew in 1848, it flew above the commune, it flew at every attempt at socialist revolution until 1917, it's a stirring symbol with a great deal of emotional resonance to any politically conscious worker anywhere on earth. I legit prefer it to the hammer and sickle, although that has its cool side too.
+Writing the initials of the RFSFR on it was lame but a lot of early wartime era flags are, regardless of the cause.
+--- 14909709
+>>14909583
+Kino coat of arms tho.
+--- 14909776
+>>14909167
+communists need to die
+--- 14910530
+>>14909624
+wow this is such insane propaganda, i can't believe the chinese are dancing, having military parades, and singing about developing their country
+--- 14911904
+>>14909776
+Cool it with the anti-Americanism.
+--- 14912774
+>>14909163 (OP)
+>We're in the middle of a revolutionary war
+>Better make an overly complicated symbol as our flag

his/14909211.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,52 @@
+-----
+--- 14909211
+What was the Johnson Administration like?
+--- 14909226
+Why do Amerimutts think anyone knows or gives a shit about their mutt country's history? There are bulidings older than America.
+--- 14909297
+>>14909226
+And yet our government is the oldest in the world discounting san marino, and its fake ass.
+--- 14909310
+>>14909297
+*Government is the oldest republic in the world
+--- 14909332
+>>14909211 (OP)
+>>14909297
+>>14909310
+You will never be human and once the world realizes world peace can only be achieved by exterminating all mutts, a utopia will be created
+--- 14909347
+>>14909332
+Did an American fuck your mom or something?
+--- 14909353
+>>14909211 (OP)
+Is that meant to be funny? retarded zoomer humour. Mutts drop a threads iq by 30 points when they wander in
+--- 14909385
+How did this thread cause so much asshurt?
+--- 14909444
+>>14909226
+Rent free as usual
+--- 14909450
+>>14909347
+It appears so. It’s amazing how much seethe we cause these “people”
+--- 14910285
+>>14909353
+>humour
+Stop trying to look all sophisticated, or as you bongs would say, "posh", in a fucking 4chan thread
+--- 14910776
+>>14910285
+I suppose being able to pronounce & spell the right way would seem sophisticated to a retard. Just like if you started a basic campfire for a monkey they think you are a wizard with secret knowledge.
+--- 14910947
+>>14909347
+>>14909450
+You are not human and never will be
+--- 14910988
+>>14910776
+if you're posting on the internet, especially on an American website, you ought to use the President's english and not that knockoff oompa loompa euro garbage british spelling
+--- 14912135
+>>14910947
+And we will always love rent free in your head
+--- 14912148
+>>14909226
+--- 14912985
+>>14909226
+Crazy the eurofags will say this but are literally SLAVES to the American state. You are our bitches

his/14909221.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,91 @@
+-----
+--- 14909221
+Christians of /his/, is she in Hell? She never converted to Christianity.
+--- 14909232
+I want Anne Frank to fart on my face.
+--- 14909236
+Jehova will reveal all the secrets when you die :)
+--- 14909242
+>>14909236
+I know. And I'll regret nothing. Also it's God, not "J*hova", stop speaking like a kike.
+--- 14909249
+Interesting Anne Frank fact
+
+Despite being sent to Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen, she actually spent a great deal of her time at the so-called Death camps in camp hospitals, being treated for Scabies and Typhus.
+
+It's curious/peculiar that these so-called extermination/slave labour camps would have put so much effort into saving the life of a teenage girl who would have been very little use as a labourer, and who was explicitly targeted for genocide due to her ethnicity.
+--- 14909291
+>>14909249
+Wow, I never knew Anne Frank had such great treatment at Hitler's Luxury Resort Camp and lived to be 90 years old!
+--- 14909365
+>>14909249
+Wtf.Nazis provided better medical services to Jews then their own soldiers? How can they be such cucks?
+--- 14909648
+>>14909291
+She never even existed.
+--- 14909670
+>>14909249
+scabies and typhus sure are weird diseases to suddenly pick up, especially when she was healthy at the time they abducted her. Sounds like the nazis put her into incredibly unsanitary conditions that led to her ultimate death.
+--- 14909846
+>>14909648
+She was an mythological archangel that Hitler saw in visions and was later historicized by Otto Frank using ballpoint pen.
+--- 14909853
+>>14909242
+its Yahweh
+--- 14909861
+>>14909853
+Its God, you heretical kike speaking faggot.
+--- 14909871
+>Its God, you heretical kike speaking faggot.
+--- 14909895
+>>14909853
+>>14909861
+It's YaHeeWaaHuaee
+--- 14909901
+>>14909861
+Jews heavily taboo the name of God, so they write it "G-d" even in English. They read the letters YHWH as "adonai" in prayer and "hashem" in speech.
+Actually calling him Yahweh is non-Abrahamic usage.
+--- 14909903
+>>14909221 (OP)
+All jews go to Hell
+--- 14910014
+>>14909903
+Does that include Hitler, since he was Jewish?
+--- 14910332
+>>14910014
+he was black
+--- 14910714
+>>14910014
+
+...How was Hitler Jewish?
+--- 14911095
+>>14910714
+Nevermind, he was black with a micro BBC apparently
+--- 14911224
+>>14909221 (OP)
+
+I could have saved her soul and her womb (with my dick).
+--- 14911229
+>>14910014
+Shalom
+--- 14911233
+>>14909903
+
+Germans can’t go to Hell because they don’t have souls to begin with
+--- 14911241
+>>14909221 (OP)
+Nobody will be saved without faith in Christ.
+--- 14911263
+>>14911233
+>NOOOOOOOOO MUH HECKING HOLOCAUST
+--- 14911386
+>>14910714
+>schicklgrubber
+--- 14912682
+That is business between them and God but I'm just saying you can snatch souls out of the fire if you go before God the right way, your friends, your family, anyone. Religion kills.
+--- 14912689
+>>14909221 (OP)
+She's Jewish, so yes. Hell.
+--- 14912695
+>>14910714
+His Talmud says so

his/14909274.txt

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+-----
+--- 14909274
+>Retvrn to the one holy apostolic chvrch
+--- 14909315
+>>14909274 (OP)
+There's no god and Jesus didn't exist. Your religion is based on a Jew story written half a century later with no complete documents until the 4th century. All Christianity is a crock of shit no matter which cult you subscribe to.
+--- 14909529
+>>14909315
+Above
+--- 14909711
+>>14909274 (OP)
+>>14909315
+Nope jew lover, im not a sheep and go my own way
+--- 14910990
+>>14909315
+>demonically possessed hands wrote this
+--- 14911007
+>>14910990
+>demonic possession is when you say historically verified and reliable information
+--- 14911019
+>>14911007
+There's a lot of accounts to Jesus' life when he was alive by Roman officials, even Richard Dawkins thought he at least existed
+--- 14911022
+>>14909274 (OP)
+These guys took the worst bits of Latin Christianity and expanded on it.
+--- 14911049
+I looked him up thinking it would be 
+generic Sede shit and instead it's a full blown cult. The most hilarious story is the former "Pope" being excommunicated for stealing the church's money.
+--- 14911091
+>>14909274 (OP)
+Imagine covering yourself with all that gold and luxirious cloething and still think you are following Jesus
+--- 14911113
+>>14911019
+>There's a lot of accounts to Jesus' life when he was alive by Roman officials
+christcucks fabricated more documents?
+--- 14911148
+>>14911019
+>There's a lot of accounts to Jesus' life when he was alive by Roman officials
+No. There's a reference to Christians 100 years later.
+--- 14911384
+>>14911049
+Who is it?
+--- 14911427
+>>14911384
+https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmarian_Christian_Church
+The guy is Joseph Odermatt or Pope Peter III. It spit off from the Roman Catholic church in the 70s, but it's basically Jehovah's Witness tier in terms of controlling their followers.
+--- 14911459
+>>14911427
+Its worse, its more like Branch Davidians but Catholic
+--- 14911467
+>>14909274 (OP)
+Is that the Palmyrian Church?
+--- 14911479
+>>14911019
+Romans literally invented Christianity.
+--- 14911504
+>>14911479
+by killing Christians?
+--- 14911517
+>>14909274 (OP)
+As weird as they are, I always found the cathedral quite beautiful.
+--- 14911714
+>>14909274 (OP)
+No. Your church kissed Emperor Constantine's ass, and he made your new Orthodoxy "legal" and crushed all opposition to his Council of Nicea in favor it. What he actually did was bring back eventual absolute control of religion by the rich nobles and governments who had had a lock on it for all of civilization's history before then, until the Christian counterculture had let commoners become leaders, and participants of a religion of their own, run by their own. That was soon over! Soon his successors brought back the Roman caste system as "christians" with a holy vengeance and destroyed whatever "freedom" ordinary people had to discuss religious thought freely for 1300 years, and crushed any remnants of upward economic and social mobility that was left. The final demise of anything resembling religious tolerance was the Alexandrian mob dragging Hypatia from her chariot and the vicious mauling and torturing of her, and then her murder at the direction of the city's Bishop for daring to talk with his rival. That incident was the real start of the religious Dark Ages because the Christian fanatics had won. On their way out of the RE, the now heretics and "pagans" left their scriptures in a jar hidden in a cave, and took classic Philosophy, Science, and Mathematics texts with them. And, Western Civilization was then ruled by Ignoramuses until the latter was introduced back into society by the Moslems of all people...
+--- 14911719
+>>14911504
+Fabricated by Tertullian.
+--- 14911827
+>>14911007
+Without irony, actually. Myths are much more real than history
+--- 14912640
+>>14911714
+People like Augustine and Thomas Aquinas definitely used classical philosophy and science as influences...
+The only thing moslems reintroduced was slavery...
+--- 14912660
+>>14909274 (OP)
+imagine thinking you're a follower of christ while wearing regalia more gaudy than any roman emperor

his/14909326.txt

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+-----
+--- 14909326
+Should discussion of mutt history be permanently banned from discussion on /his/, it's a nothing infantile country with no history. It has no ruins, nothing interesting, and no Healthcare. It isn't a country, it's a corporation pretending to be one
+--- 14909331
+But what about muh random Presidentz who used to smoke weedz and was a esoteric as fuck duuuude. Wish I could hear his podcast while eating goyslop and drinking goyjuice.
+--- 14909336
+>>14909326 (OP)
+>it's a corporation pretending to be one
+that's what makes them interesting though
+--- 14909340
+I wish this website would open "/rc/ - Race" and dump all obviously muttmerican-made threads in there from all boards.
+--- 14909344
+>>14909326 (OP)
+>it's a corporation pretending to be one
+I fucking wish, it's a Marxist shithole. At least if it was a corporation they wouldn't be running it so retardedly
+--- 14909360
+>>14909344
+>true democratic republic capitalism has not been tried
+I don't like Marxism (or at the least the gay equality humanism the French/Western Europe have going on), but come on
+--- 14909403
+>>14909340
+They already did, it’s called /pol/. Mutts don’t seem to be content with it though.
+--- 14909412
+If someone opened a topic about the VOC no one would bat an eye, if someone brought up a recent nation like Croatia or Slovakia no one would mind, if someone made a thread about Venice no one would care. Even modern Greece is younger than the US and there's threads about Greeks all the time. The US is an Anglo colony like Canada or Australia, it had a functional culture until the Atlantic Charter turned into a modern Venice. I hate /pol/ so much, it's just people bitching about their countries and this website is mostly American so it leaks out everywhere.
+--- 14909487
+>>14909326 (OP)
+Nope seethe more thirdie
+--- 14909609
+>mutt
+name a more retarded insult
+all of the west has been mutted since the bronze age
+--- 14909646
+im sure your village has its own imageboard if you dont want to use the american one, right?
+--- 14909715
+>>14909326 (OP)
+Gee, which thirdie country is seething about us today, I wonder?
+--- 14909721
+>>14909403
+>>14909340
+>Mutt mutt mutt mutt mutt!
+>t.
+--- 14909729
+>>14909326 (OP)
+>and no Healthcare.
+great bait
+--- 14909947
+>>14909609
+It's a cope insult. Aside from a lengthy history where not much of note happened aside from a few countries like England or Italy, Euros are worse than Americans in every way and they damned well know it so they LARP that they aren't all mixtures of basically everything in Europe so that they can say "at least I'm not a mutt!". all the whole calling concepts of race "an American thing". It's sad but just let them have their cope, we let every other group do it after all and it's really all they've got.
+--- 14910053
+But if we can't discuss America how can we answer the one burning question that has been haunting European thinkers since 1492: Do Americans really?
+--- 14910246
+>>14909326 (OP)
+I'd suggest instead of banning mutt history we shoud ban the discussion of mutt style ""religion"" cults.
+--- 14910916
+>>14910053
+Yes, we do.
+--- 14910989
+>>14909412
+
+>The US is an Anglo colony like Canada or Australia, it had a functional culture until the Atlantic Charter turned into a modern Venice
+
+No, it fucking is not. This is a Brit, Australian, or Canadian, right? It is an actually successful, populous, dominant society with history and culture. Australia and Canada are not.
+--- 14910998
+every time butthurt eurotrash posts about how much they hate their lords and masters (us) it makes my cock harden a little and gives me a burst of energy
+
+thanks guys!
+--- 14911021
+>>14909326 (OP)
+
+Desperately contradicting reality out of your own jealousy. Either a troll, or a dumbass
+
+>infantile country
+
+One of the oldest surviving nation states that had a population of 100 million by the 1910s...
+
+>No ruins
+
+Yes it does, it has native ruins. Most European countries don't have ruins, or barely have any. Laughable to pretend Mexico has florid history just because it has some impressive ruins, for example.
+
+>Nothing interesting 
+
+By what standard? It's been one of the most populous, culturally innovative societies for over 100 years, has a much more tumultuous history than most countries, and underwent more development and historical crises than any society its age ever has, it's already a superpower, and has been for 100+ years, and is diverse and dynamic and ever-changing in a way no other country is. This is cope - America is the most interesting country on earth, and that's why you people are obsessed with us.
+
+>No healthcare 
+
+retarded, incoherent addition to this list. We have better healthcare than where you came from.
+
+Your country is probably less than 50 years old, and utterly insignificant, so you sit and seethe.
+--- 14912146
+Cope and seethe. Your country is our vassal, best part about it is that your country wished to be one.
+--- 14912287
+>>14912146
+Amen brother, these military bases need to shut the fuck up
+--- 14912307
+"America suck LOL Europe based you mutt"
+>Typed on an American designed computer
+>Posted from American made software 
+>While chugging American coke
+>opens up tab on American browser
+>Watches porn of American Cocks
+>Wipes cum on American brand clothes
+You faggots worship us and we dont even have to try
+--- 14912455
+This is an American planet 
+Europe is still like a whining child as it’s superior sibling matures well into adulthood.
+--- 14912637
+Yeah, ban all discussion of nations and time periods without socialized healthcare! Also, ban all discussion of white people! It's time to get with the times, yo!
+--- 14912759
+>>14909326 (OP)
+--- 14912810
+>>14912759
+This has nothing to do with healthcare. Ban it.
+--- 14912946
+>>14912810
+It's a ruin. I'm not gonna argue politics with a retard, just pointing out there is plenty of history here.

his/14909422.txt

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+-----
+--- 14909422
+>Kill your son to prove you love m-
+
+No.
+--- 14909457
+Why doesn't abraham or most old testament characters for that matter have any conscience? It's like they're controlled by disembodied voices who sometimes appear under the name of YHWH
+--- 14909494
+>>14909457
+Because abrahamic religions were written for NPCs
+--- 14909495
+>>14909457
+Thats called having faith in God and believing in his love anon.
+--- 14909517
+>>14909457
+Because it's just a bunch of poorly-edited bronze age stories designed to give an irrelevant ME statelet a glorious history, which even the smartest Christians are forced to hide behind claims that its mostly allegorical to get around.
+>It doesn't matter if there's no evidence for a mass exodus of Hebrews from Egypt, akcshoally it's really just a metaphor for Christians abandoning worldly power and pleasures for God's...
+--- 14909525
+>>14909495
+But I like having individuality. God might as well hijack my body and take the rein himself so I can do 100% of what he wants.
+--- 14909541
+>>14909525
+--- 14909545
+>>14909525
+You always have the choice to reject and be an "individual". Abraham was chosen because he was an individual who chose God. You have free will so I don't know what you are trying to argue on.
+--- 14909550
+>>14909517
+>You know what, it doesn't matter that the conquest of canaan never happened and the people who wrote the book were just another Canaanite province
+>Yes the temples and monuments of solomon never existed but it doesn't matter because that's not the point
+>Yeah Jews retroactively wrote Deuteronomy and Kings as a political weapon but it's fine it was all part of Gods plan
+>Jesus was a historical person so it's fine if everything else is allegorical/symbolic :)
+--- 14909565
+>>14909550
+That’s right goy! And DONT forget to support israel, it’s exactly what YHWH would have wanted :)
+--- 14910481
+>>14909457
+It's because they weren't conscious. No one before the bronze age collapse was.
+--- 14910572
+Abraham was testing God
+if the God he loved was worthy of worship, it wouldn't kill his son
+--- 14910841
+I never got this argument. Atheists would tell you
+>the Bible is a work of fiction
+>God isn't just because He had Abraham sacrifice his son
+In the same breath. But if we take it to be 100% fiction, and we know that within the story, the character "God" is known to be omnipotent, omniscient and belevolent, why argue His motives?
+--- 14910859
+>>14909541
+Killing your son is Gay
+--- 14910868
+>>14910841
+Because people take the stories as something to emulate retard
+--- 14910898
+>>14910868
+Ah, so the issue isn't that God is capricious and makes you kill your children on a whim.
+Then what's the problem? You should sacrifice what's dearest and most important to you to please God. 
+>inb4 interpreting what I said as actually killing your family
+--- 14911001
+>>14910841
+His motives are in no way benevolent.
+
+God is fictional and in no way represents any sort of sane and decent moral code. The character portrayed in the Old Testament Jewish ramblings is a vain bastard who delights in playing mindgames with his victims on par with the worst of the pagan gods.
+--- 14911156
+>>14911001
+Within the fictional (according to you) story of the Bible, it's canon, an established fact, that God is good and His motives are benevolent. Everything He does sets the standard for morality.
+--- 14911169
+>>14911156
+And what a twisted morality that is
+
+Punishing entire nations and races for the bad actions of a few among them, drowning the entire planet, hardening pharos heart against releasing the jews and then killing all first born egyptian sons because he hardened pharos heart in the first place
+--- 14911268
+>>14911169
+Surely you know better than an omniscient God
+--- 14911279
+>>14911268
+I know better than a bunch of inbred yuck people writing bronze age mythos
+--- 14911711
+>>14911268
+>Surely you know better than an omniscient God.
+Is the same God who demanded that the Jews cut the throats of animals and pour the blood into an altar, so he could forgive them for sinning? The same God who told the Jews to mutilate all baby boys genitals - Seems kinda messed up.
+The same God who took the form of a Jew rabbi called gentle Jesus meek and mild, and took part in a human sacrifice, dying, but not really dying, so our "sins" could be absolved, if only we believe it happened. Its stupid as fuck.
+--- 14911786
+>>14909422 (OP)
+That is literally the lesson of the story.
+
+The Canaanites that Abraham lived amongst practiced child sacrifice so he is taught the lesson that the almighty GOD can provide his own sacrifices as well as foreshadowing the LORD sacrificing his only SON.
+--- 14911791
+>>14909422 (OP)
+To punch God in the face is the same as punching your own face.
+--- 14911794
+>>14911786
+Kino foreshadowing.
+If only it had actually happened.
+--- 14911828
+>>14911786
+>o he is taught the lesson that the almighty GOD can provide his own sacrifices as well as foreshadowing the LORD sacrificing his only SON.
+how about having NO sacrifices of any living thing. Sacrificing a life to absolve a sin is primitive Jewish nonsense.
+--- 14911957
+>>14911828
+>sacrificing a life
+
+He literally conquers death to bring about eternal life.
+
+I am not going to listen to anyone who agrees with the Jews in their hatred of Jesus.
+--- 14911999
+>>14911957
+>Im going to sacrifce myself to myself to save (You) from myself
+
+That's a really, really, really stupid story
+--- 14912194
+>>14911957
+>He literally conquers death to bring about eternal life.
+But if he is an all powerful God why create death in the first place?
+Why jump through all these hoops?
+--- 14912212
+>>14911999
+>>14912194
+It's a bronze age religion with bronze age logic. When you realize this, everything makes sense.
+--- 14912224
+>>14911957
+Yeah we get it. You larp as someone who worships a magic jew to rebel against your liberal parents.
+--- 14912236
+>>14909422 (OP)
+Fun fact: Genesis 22, when God identifies Isaac to be the sacrificial victim, says
+
+>Take your son, your only* son, the one you love, Isaac.
+
+At the end of the narrative, when the angel talks to Abraham in verse twelve, it is now just
+
+>You have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.
+With the phrase "The one you love" very clearly omitted.
+
+* The word יְחִידְךָ most literally means "Your alone one", and refers to a child who is the only child of his or her mother.
+--- 14912973
+>>14909457
+They do have emotion though. Moses shows a lot of emotion in Deuteronomy. In general the stakes are high and the actions are described not the emotions that’s why you don’t feel like the people show emotion most of the time. It just says they did something not in what way or state of mind. Also anyone that goes against god shows their emotions. Like aarron and the king moab

his/14909521.txt

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+-----
+--- 14909521
+>Says there is no salvation for schismatics
+>Is a literal schismatic
+--- 14909544
+>censors shirtless men
+--- 14910109
+>Believe stage magicians use real magic
+That's where the Sedes jumped the shark.
+--- 14910568
+>>14909521 (OP)
+>>Says there is no salvation for schismatics
+So did the Popes/Catholic Church.
+--- 14910584
+Is this the latest eceleb I'm supposed to pretend to give a shit about
+--- 14910627
+>>14909544
+Ngl I was dying laughing at that video, but he truly does know a lot of canon
+--- 14910649
+>the people accusing you of being a weird guy who wears a fedora hang on the words of this shark eyed psycho in a robe
+What the fuck is going on lmao
+--- 14910839
+>>14909521 (OP)
+>>Is a literal schismatic
+You should debate him on the topic of whether the Novus Ordo is consistent with PreV2 Catholicism.
+--- 14910899
+>>14910839
+Yeah this is why he has respect, he has always debated anyone and everyone I've seen he wins, even on the Pints with Aquinas channel which is like a Novus Ordo epicenter
+--- 14910917
+>>14909521 (OP)
+Christianity has lost its way and tens of millions have died over minor theological spats.
+--- 14910926
+>>14909521 (OP)
+Why is this guy being shilled here all of a sudden?
+--- 14910941
+>>14910926
+I mean I like him because he btfo Jay dyer the snob
+--- 14910943
+>>14910568
+but they are the true Church
+--- 14911006
+>>14910917
+Tens of millions is a little dramatic, none of the major wars of the past like 300 years have been mainly about religion (concerning Christians)
+--- 14911610
+>>14909521 (OP)
+his analytical approach is as catholic as it gets, but i think he gatekeeps on certain topics. sedes cause seethe
+--- 14911822
+>>14910627
+>>14909544
+Which video was this?
+--- 14912013
+>>14911822
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rIrNhcM-94&t=4s [Embed]
+--- 14912067
+Is this not just depressing to you people?
+--- 14912197
+>>14912067
+I see them as revealers, they don't really offer any solutions besides praying the rosary but they reveal a lot of canonical Catholic truths and shake things up in a state where most people would rather just ignore everything going wrong
+--- 14912205
+>>14909521 (OP)
+Imagine believing that the point of life was to beg a magic jew to give you a ticket to a magic jew kingdom in the sky for obedient dead goys.
+--- 14912319
+>>14912205
+You can believe in the the countless miracles of the Church and it's power or not, no need to be derisive
+--- 14912685
+>>14912013
+Can’t tell if its funnier that Goring’s favorite movie is Moana, or that Trailerboy Pete gets uncomfortable around shirtless dudes. Comedy gold all around.
+--- 14912766
+>>14909521 (OP)
+>dude just avoid mass and the eucharist
+literally from satan. who gave him the authority to declare popes and the church invalid?
+--- 14912773
+>>14909544
+>>14910627
+>>14911822
+>>14912013
+>>14912685
+why would he censor it like it's something sexual? there are plenty of okay depictions of shirtless men in christian art like christ for example
+--- 14912788
+>>14912766
+He's just following the example of Luther, only now with ultra legalism.
+--- 14912793
+>>14912067
+Fuck off, Dirk
+--- 14912794
+>>14912773
+I think he's trying to stress it as something vain and unnecessary, to my knowledge it's only that video and probably partially to troll Goring
+--- 14912800
+>>14910899
+He completely destroyed Cassman. And the weasel Trent Horn is too much of a pussy to debate him.
+--- 14912818
+>>14912766
+the "popes" of vat 2 are heretics, you dont need higher authority to state that fact
+--- 14912820
+>>14912685
+It's Michael not Peter.
+--- 14912823
+>>14912820
+Which one’s which?
+--- 14912824
+What's the one where he believes magic tricks?
+--- 14912833
+>>14912823
+It says on their videos who is presenting. Michael has more of a troll bend to his vids, Peter seems more focused and serious. That's why Peter usually debates.
+--- 14912906
+>>14912013
+What the hell even is this video? 
+Is his entire problem with the priest is hes shirtless when he exercises? How autistic do you have to be to be offended by that?
+--- 14912915
+>>14912906
+If he’s shirtless, he could be tempting men and women into sin. Not that I agree, but I think that’s what his point is.

his/14909555.txt

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+-----
+--- 14909555
+Will we ever really know what stone circles were for?
+--- 14909576
+>>14909555 (OP)
+They probably worshipped YHWH there originally
+--- 14909589
+Humans relating to and worshipping the heavens
+--- 14909634
+trading pre settlements
+--- 14909647
+Toys of giants
+--- 14910390
+>>14909555 (OP)
+no because they're like a million years old and we don't have the technology. for all we know, it could be a place for gatherings, religious grounds, or just a memorial erected as part of a celebration
+--- 14911675
+>>14909555 (OP)
+They were used to build ethnostates. The technology has long been lost.
+--- 14911691
+>>14909576
+Please spell it the Latin way. Jove.
+--- 14912807
+>>14909555 (OP)
+Stars and the sun and stuff. It spanned several different eras and people just kept building on it.
+--- 14912982
+>>14909555 (OP)
+It was almost certainly a way to calculate changing seasons/the solstice by marking stellar/solar motion.
+--- 14913021
+Most neolítich stone circles were season calendars.
+Stonehenge is just a bunch of rocks built in the 50s. It's a scam.

his/14909560.txt

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+-----
+--- 14909560
+So sad that the “cool pastor” cringefest has spread into Catholicism.
+--- 14909570
+I read that as "cringe pastor" at first
+--- 14909575
+>>14909560 (OP)
+When will Catholicucks realize that they would have retained more converts by buying into the trad-conservative angle like Islam rather than cucking out to liberalism?
+--- 14909577
+>Ugh it's just like fuckin pr*tties!
+Of all the issues facing the Catholic Church that's what you choose to seethe about lol
+--- 14909579
+Goring is super cringe hut he’s a good guy at least.
+--- 14909618
+>Charismatic Catholicism
+what is this world coming to?
+--- 14909649
+>>14909618
+Everyone’s saying: “what is this world coming to.”
+Nobody’s ever saying: “what is this world cooming to?”
+--- 14909675
+>>14909560 (OP)
+>>14909570
+>>14909575
+>>14909577
+>>14909579
+>>14909618
+>>14909649
+JWs are the oniy religion that have escaped wokeness since we actually excommunicate blasphemers and heretics instead of allowing them to thrive
+--- 14909723
+>>14909675
+You tell them sister!
+--- 14909745
+>>14909723
+There's actually nothing wrong with this.
+--- 14909750
+>>14909723
+The "two witnesses rule" is a scriptural procedure established by Jesus himself. I think Jesus would know what he was talking about.
+
+that rule does not mean that no action will be taken unless two literal eyewitnesses presence the sin. Rather it means that no judicial action will be taken just on the base of an accusation without any evidence. Otherwise, it would take only a parent in the congregation falsely or mistakenly accusing you of molesting their child and you would be judged and disfellowshipped without any right to appeal. Would that be fair ?
+
+Even if you go to the police and file a report about anyone, they won't take any action unless some proof is presented. It's simply logical.
+--- 14909796
+>>14909750
+When are there ever two witnesses present during a child being molested? You are a pedo ring, we get it. The FBI is currently investigating your organization for these crimes.
+--- 14909835
+>>14909796
+You didn't read what I said. 
+
+The so-called "two witnesses rule" is nothing else than common sense used in all modern judicial systems in the world: a person cannot be declared guilty based only on the witness of the accuser. Some proof is needed.
+
+If you tell the elders your child was molested they will take the accusation very seriously. If the accused denies the charge, additional proof will be required to take judicial measures. That's logical, it's someone's word against someone else's. The "second witness" doesn't need to be someone who was present while the wrongdoing was committed. It can be forensic proof, other kind of evidence, or another (even previous) accusation by someone else against the same person. 
+
+You will be encouraged to report the abuse to the authorities, but of course the police will require the same kind of evidence. A person cannot be convicted just because you say he's a criminal.
+
+If no evidence is produced, judicial action cannot be taken, but still the elders will warn the congregation, because the safety of our children is a priority. There will probably be a local needs talk warning not to leave your children with anyone, or they might prefer to warn every family in private. You cannot go around saying brother XX is a child abuser, the same as you can't go around saying he's a thief or a murderer if you can't prove it. 
+
+Of course, you can go to the police and let them take care of the situation.
+--- 14909870
+>>14909835
+The fuck so the elders got to do with it?
+
+They should go to the police first thing, but you don't allow them to. You say it will "bring reproach on Jehovah's name" so you do your hardest to shame and threaten the parents so they sweep it under the rug. The police are onto your little pedo ring, all we have to do now is sit back and watch as your organization crumbles.
+--- 14909902
+>>14909750
+An elder can literally dismiss all accusations by refusing questioning. 
+
+Do not even pretend this is how we "worldly" people deal with rape accusations
+--- 14909908
+>>14909870
+This is in incorrect. 
+
+let us take you way back to 1962. The November 15 Watchtower from that year on page 693 clearly stated:
+
+"9 Worldly authorities render a judgment and punish persons, whether they are inside the congregation or outside, if they violate the laws of decency and good order. The violators have no right to complain at such punishment, as Paul showed by his words before Caesar’s judgment seat. (Acts 25:11) Hence the Christian congregation cannot protect any of its members if they steal, smuggle, commit bigamy, murder, libel, defraud, and so forth. The congregation must release such guilty members to punishment by worldly authorities. Since the guilty break the laws of the land and thus oppose the “authority,” they are taking a stand against God’s arrangement.
+
+10 The Christian congregation has no orders from God and has no right to protect such opposers and lawbreakers from the due punishment by the “authority” of the land. We cannot hinder, oppose or condemn the execution of the krima or judgment by aiding or shielding lawbreakers. To do so would put the Christian congregation also in opposition to God’s arrangement. Besides letting the krima or “judgment” take its course upon offending members who bring reproach upon God’s people, the congregation may disfellowship such lawbreakers. The congregation does not want to deserve a krima or “judgment” with the lawbreakers by siding or cooperating with them and opposing the worldly “authority.” It also wants no reproach."
+--- 14909916
+>>14909902
+Actually, the two witnesses can be the court evidence and the child. It can be the DNA evidence and the child.
+
+ The policy says: "...corroborating evidence can be used instead of a second witness to prove wrongdoing." 
+
+And the Jan 30 1992 letter to elders states: "Also, should further wrongdoing come to light during the trial it would be necessary for the matter to be re-examined, as is true of any judicial matter when additional wrongdoing is discovered."
+--- 14909951
+>>14909908
+>>14909916
+You don't convince anyone here with your bullshit. Everyone knows the true about the JW's.
+--- 14909965
+>>14909951
+>Witnesses believe that worshipping God properly means living properly - which includes living honest, truthful and sober lives.
+https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/witnesses/witnessethics/ethics_1.shtml
+--- 14909975
+>>14909965
+With 1 YouTube search you can see all the scandals the JW's are in.
+--- 14909992
+>>14909975
+ “The naive person believes every word.”—Proverbs 14:15.
+--- 14910005
+>>14909992
+Wow, you got me!
+
+Nah, you don't convince anyone. No one on this site is converting to JW. They all know what's up.
+--- 14910017
+>>14910005
+“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them." (John 6:44)
+
+Jehovah attracts all those who have a sincere heart, so we can be sure that all of his lost sheep will become Jehovah's Witnesses before the End of the world
+--- 14910035
+>>14910017
+He attracts a lot of pedophiles to his cult also it seems.
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kBh9Bm_pbA [Embed]
+--- 14910049
+>>14910035
+This video is a good thing since it proves Jehovah protects his congregation. I'm glad they were arrested, the Kingdom Hall must remain holy and clean. 
+
+The elders and the police did a great job cooperating in weeding out evil doers from the church
+
+“Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.”—1 Corinthians 5:13.
+--- 14910059
+>>14910049
+They were in the congregation for many years before they were caught and Jehovah didn't do shit to protect anyone all that time.
+
+Haha, no one is buying your bullshit.
+--- 14910083
+>>14910059
+As soon as they was made aware of it, they acted swiftly to bring them to justice.
+
+"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness." (2 Peter 3:9)
+--- 14910088
+>>14910083
+Hey, whatever you have to tell yourself to protect your pedo cult. No one else wants to let their kids near that. No one else wants to live the pathetic life you live.
+--- 14910115
+>>14910088
+Actually, as Philip Brumley, general counsel for the Watchtower Society could confidently state: "The policy that Jehovah's Witnesses have on how to handle cases of child molestation is without equal in the religious community." 
+
+The Paducah Sun, January 28, 2001 similarly reports that Watchtower attorney Mario Moreno "would be willing to put the church's policy up against any other."
+
+ In other words, no religion has a better child abuse policy than Jehovah's Witnesses
+--- 14910209
+>>14910115
+I won't let my kid sit on your elder's lap at the kingdom hall no matter how hard you try to trick me.
+--- 14910221
+>>14909992
+Ironic
+--- 14911738
+oh boy more useless christian shitflinging

his/14909636.txt

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+-----
+--- 14909636
+What topics would you guys like to see Dan cover next?
+--- 14909644
+wooden doors
+--- 14909650
+russian civil war. im sure it would be great
+--- 14909655
+>>14909636 (OP)
+Pirates
+--- 14909660
+>I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE DARTH VADER STEPPING... ONTO THE MILLENIAL FALCON, AND THAT WAS WHAT IT FELT LIKE WHEN HITLER INVADED CZECHOSLOVAKIA!
+>AND you have to understand, THAT the Holocaust was like THANOS winning FOREVER. He snaps and HALVES the population of Jews worldwide but there's no part 2! There's... no Avengers to come along and snap and reverse the damage he's done... THOSE Jews - and let's not forget all the rest the Germans killed like the Slavs and the partisans and the rest... they... STAY DEAD! THANOS JUST WON... FOREVER!
+--- 14909773
+>>14909636 (OP)
+crusades
+--- 14910082
+>>14909655
+this please dan shill
+--- 14910094
+>>14909660
+I can hear his voice. He actually does mention Darth Vader a lot
+--- 14910156
+three kingdoms but he would literally never finish it
+
+No more vikings though, holy shit they are boring. No one cares about hut dwelling vanilla gorillas and their chimpouts.
+--- 14910166
+>>14910094
+he's said darth vader like 4-5 times ever in all of his podcasts
+--- 14910178
+>>14910166
+As far as I can remember it was only in Kings of Kings.
+--- 14910208
+>>14910166
+>>14910178
+The Darth Vader analogy is used many times.
+--- 14910326
+>>14909636 (OP)
+The one where he puts out more than like four hours a year of content. Addendum is SHIT and a waste of time. Did the Pacific even get finished?
+--- 14910596
+>>14910326
+Yeah, it really did take forever though.
+--- 14911084
+I refuse to believe it takes months to make these. He's just rambles and goes on tangents for hours. I doubt there's much editing needed
+--- 14911099
+>>14911084
+Most of what he says is scripted or has notes for. He also collects quotes from old history books. I imagine he spends half his time scavenging suburban archives for quotes and historical ideas.
+--- 14911109
+>>14911099
+>Most of what he says is scripted or has notes for.
+Yeah no I heavily doubt this
+>He also collects quotes from old history books
+doesnt take months 
+>I imagine he spends half his time scavenging suburban archives for quotes and historical ideas.
+I imagine he reads well known and regarded history books and pop history books. 
+
+It's easy to tell when you listen to his Roman episodes since I assume everyone here knows about Rome.
+--- 14911652
+>>14910156
+
+Three Kingdoms would be great. Usually the parts of history where everything is a depressing clusterfuck gets ignored, but Three Kingdoms shows that there's heroes and good drama even in the worst of times.
+--- 14911658
+>sentient oil
+jesus christ
+--- 14911919
+>>14911658
+What?
+--- 14912190
+>>14909660
+>AND AGEHN
+>AND AGENN
+--- 14912520
+>>14909636 (OP)
+Nappy time
+STOP PUTTING IT OFF DAN FYCKING LETS GO
+>its actually a seven part series on Italian renaissance politics
+I'm okay with this.
+--- 14912603
+>>14909644
+>>14909655
+>>14912520
+These
+--- 14912743
+>>14909773
+>>14912520
+Based

his/14909734.txt

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+-----
+--- 14909734
+Why did America invade Iraq?
+--- 14909764
+>>14909734 (OP)
+Allah predestined it.
+--- 14909774
+>>14909734 (OP)
+Still outraged that they weren’t able to kill Saddam a decade prior, so they manufactured evidence to give them an excuse to do so. Better question, and one that ties in with a more complex answer - why was nobody charged over this?
+--- 14909805
+For their masters: Israel and war profits
+--- 14909818
+Because fuck sandniggers and Jarhead needed some inspiration to be that kino.
+--- 14909850
+>>14909734 (OP)
+$
+--- 14909855
+Cos pizza
+--- 14909911
+>>14909774
+Is there any good book about this whole conflict?
+--- 14910022
+>>14909734 (OP)
+to kill cunts and fuck shit up
+--- 14910102
+>>14909734 (OP)
+more than one reason
+>invasion of Kuwait
+>saddam attacking Israel
+>war profits and stealing gold and money
+>establish military bases close to iran
+>put rulers that will bend over whenever the US asks them to do so
+>oil
+they killed a shit ton of people but they got what they wanted
+--- 14910114
+>>14909911
+Several, if you're willing to do thousands and thousands of pages of reading.
+--- 14910123
+>>14910102
+>oil 
+US oil imports from Iraq peaked in 2002.
+--- 14910147
+Neocon retards thought they could nation build with war
+--- 14910161
+>>14910123
+>He thinks it was about Iraqi oil
+It was Saudi oil they wanted while cutting off oil supply from Iraq to other nations.
+--- 14910215
+>>14910114
+Sure. If you can just name a few.
+--- 14910889
+>>14909734 (OP)
+Impose American values aka democracy, McDonalds, and gay pride parades in Baghdad
+--- 14910922
+>>14909734 (OP)
+The neocons had a smoldering hatred of Saddam dating back to the Gulf War and had been plotting their revenge for over a decade. It gets overlooked nowadays, but regime change in Iraq became the stated objective of the United States government in the 1990s, and there was an army of analysts and commentators trying to sell the idea to the people.
+--- 14910996
+USA had near complete global hegemony in the 90s and 2000s.
+China was still third world tier, Russia had become third world tier. USSR was gone. 
+
+A nation in that position tend to do reckless shit. You youngfags have no clue how much the world hated USA back then for playing world police.
+
+Anyway, it wouldn't be possible today.
+--- 14911044
+In 1993, the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) directed and pursued an attempt to assassinate, through the use of a powerful car bomb, former U.S. President George Bush and the Emir of Kuwait. Kuwaiti authorities thwarted the terrorist plot and arrested 16 suspects, led by two Iraqi nationals.
+
+Iraq shelters terrorist groups including the Mujahedin-e-Khalq Organization (MKO), which has used terrorist violence against Iran and in the 1970s was responsible for killing several U.S. military personnel and U.S. civilians.
+
+Iraq shelters several prominent Palestinian terrorist organizations in Baghdad, including the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF), which is known for aerial attacks against Israel and is headed by Abu Abbas, who carried out the 1985 hijacking of the cruise ship Achille Lauro and murdered U.S. citizen Leon Klinghoffer.
+
+Iraq shelters the Abu Nidal Organization, an international terrorist organization that has carried out terrorist attacks in twenty countries, killing or injuring almost 900 people. Targets have included the United States and several other Western nations. Each of these groups have offices in Baghdad and receive training, logistical assistance, and financial aid from the government of Iraq.
+
+In April 2002, Saddam Hussein increased from $10,000 to $25,000 the money offered to families of Palestinian suicide/homicide bombers. The rules for rewarding suicide/homicide bombers are strict and insist that only someone who blows himself up with a belt of explosives gets the full payment. Payments are made on a strict scale, with different amounts for wounds, disablement, death as a "martyr" and $25,000 for a suicide bomber. Mahmoud Besharat, a representative on the West Bank who is handing out to families the money from Saddam, said, "You would have to ask President Saddam why he is being so generous. But he is a revolutionary and he wants this distinguished struggle, the intifada, to continue."
+--- 14911047
+>>14911044
+
+Former Iraqi military officers have described a highly secret terrorist training facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and assassinations.
+--- 14911055
+>>14909734 (OP)
+To eliminate one of Israel's enemies
+--- 14911238
+classified reasons that we'll only know in 20 years
+--- 14911244
+>>14911044
+>>14911047
+This is some some deep lore. Thanks for telling me.
+--- 14911746
+>>14911044
+>>14911047
+source on this ? it sounds interesting
+--- 14911776
+>>14911746
+whitehouse.gov
+--- 14911811
+>>14909734 (OP)
+decline in jewish IQs in the 20th century means you have a lot of pretty dumb nepotism kikes in power in the late 20th century. They thought they could transform it into Arizona in a few months, because they thought they done something similiar to Japan and Germoney. Israeli kikes told them a lot of bullshit intel about Weaposn of Mass Destruction because the american kikes told them they would invade Iran next.
+--- 14912052
+>>14910102
+>>establish military bases close to iran
+
+country that u invade falls into iranian influence of zone. wtf?
+--- 14912094
+>>14911044
+>>14911047
+The fucking American government themselves have admitted Salman Pak was not a training ground for terrorists, not a single soul still believes these lies apart from the most hardline neocon talking heads.
+--- 14912101
+>>14912052
+that's because the muricans were too naive they put a shia prime minister and a parliament with a majority of shia, because of the religious similarities they'd rather work with iran instead of saudi arabia and other neighbors that hate shia's guts, it's different now but it's not any better, they still work with iran.
+political parties are mafia tier now and they divide the money between themselves, if one party is not satisfied things might escalate to street wars, you might get killed for insulting the head of a political party or a Muslim leader, oh well a large majority of the people here are not exactly smart
+--- 14912121
+>>14912052
+Unipolar moment led americans to pursue completely retarded and unsustainable conquests. When you believe that you are entitled to rule over the entire world, you will inevitably overstretch yourself.
+--- 14912128
+>>14912094
+>people admit it's a terrorist training camp
+>capture it
+>a few years later quietly say it wasn't a terrorist training camp
+reminds me of
+>US soldiers admit to finding WMDs
+>some are even hospitalized after finding them
+>find entire bunkers covered in hastily poured cement
+>when asked to enter them they are denied
+>US government denies any WMDs are found
+--- 14912131
+>>14909734 (OP)
+>little sadam started getting uppity after decades of being moderately hostile or indifferent to american influence 
+>amerigoblins think they can destroy the country and then sanction him to death and things will get better or he will bend the knee
+>doesn't work
+>iraq is now overtly anti american and making a fuss even with its crippled military from iran-iraq war and 1991 war
+>war makes some people a lot of money
+>amerigoblins think they can just destroy the country again and this time put a bunch of think tank retards in charge of it to make it normal again
+--- 14912137
+>>14909774
+Silly liberal, the only people who get charged with war crimes are the losers Why would the people running things throw themselves into the pit of snakes for no reason?
+--- 14912139
+>>14912128
+here's your WMDs bro
+--- 14912934
+>>14912101
+What's happens now that Iran and Saudi Arabia re-established relations?
+--- 14912966
+What doomed American lead reconstruction of Iraq was 1. Disbanding the Iraqi Army. 2. Banning Ba’ath party members from public life.
+--- 14912970
+>>14910215
+The Gulf War Chronicles. 
+Thunder Run for a battle account of the Battle of Baghdad.

his/14909781.txt

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+-----
+--- 14909781
+Is there a reason people hate him less than Lenin, Stalin, or Hitler despite his regime leading to so many accidental deaths? So even nixon was able to have a friendly political conversation with the guy
+--- 14909814
+He doesn't pay the white tax in terms of historical revisionism.
+For example, Imperial Japan is popularly seen as less evil than Germany, despite the whole unit 731, opium cigarette plan to make China a bunch of crackhead tweakers who couldn't fight back, and torture of PoWs.
+
+But as far as systematic evil Mao never tried to cause harm. Stalin's collectivization was a deliberate choice between the lives of the peasants or industrializing and he chose industrializing. Mao never actively chose a famine, it was a retarded policy that led to it, which isn't the same as actively choosing it and being okay with it.
+--- 14909821
+>>14909781 (OP)
+The system he built still exists and he didnt go full schizo like Stalin to murder everyone competent around him
+--- 14909824
+>>14909781 (OP)
+Stalin and Hitler intentionally murdered millions of their own
+
+Le 60 million deaths attributed to Mao’s policies were side effects of a number of other causes not entirely within the realm of the government’s control, albeit mismanagement definitely contributed to that. Regardless, it was not an intentional act of mass murder.
+--- 14909829
+because he split from the USSR and buddied up to Nixon, and your media is almost 100% regime propaganda
+--- 14909854
+>>14909781 (OP)
+How many countries did he invade compared to Hitler/Stalin, start there. All "hate" for any leader is really just ethnic resentment cloaked in ideological dressing. Or why do you think Russians love Stalin and Poles hate him, even though Stalin probably got more Russians killed
+--- 14909864
+>>14909854
+
+He did help the north side of the Korean conflict and Tibet, the majority of the tibetian side sided with the CPC
+--- 14909872
+>>14909781 (OP)
+It is easier to blame the chinese for being chinese that it is for to blame Mao in order to explain the faults considering he often was not directly involved in what was going on and often people acting in his name were just people who were emboldened by him rather than following orders from him.
+--- 14909893
+>>14909821
+>he didnt go full schizo like Stalin to murder everyone competent around him
+This is one of the most woefully incorrect posts I've ever seen on /his/, not from a subjective view but simply objectively wrong.
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Rightist_Campaign#Famous_Rightists
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution#Precursor
+--- 14909906
+>>14909864
+He literally invaded India though.
+--- 14909915
+>>14909893
+Doesn’t even come close to stalin’s purges
+--- 14909921
+>>14909781 (OP)
+as you said, the vast majority of Mao’s death toll were accidental, not deliberate as the Axis powers or perhaps Stalin were. Again compared to Stalin, Mao very rarely directly ordered executions. He was utterly nonchalant to human life, as in “if tens of millions die for us to win then whatever lol” but generally he would have preferred for all those famine victims to not die. I suppose that makes him a shade less evil than Hitler (?) 
+also he wasn’t a racist and appreciated the abilities of women. 
+
+B) it’s really difficult to overstate the contrast as to what China was under Mao, compared to the Qing dynasty and the warlords. Think carefully about the reaction Qing China had to foreign invaders compared to Maoist China. A couple thousand drugged up bandits swinging machetes, versus the Communist Party’s gigantic iron-willed legions that paralyzed the influence of 15 countries in Korea and whose grip could not be loosened with anything less than nuclear carpet-bombing. The contrast is even more stark than Russia’s shit performance in WW1 to the USSR brute-force steamrolling all of Eastern Europe in WW2. 
+
+From a cynically collectivist perspective, out of every ten Chinese under his rule, mao starved one of them to death with retarded economic fever dreams, sent another to the labour camps, and taught the other eight that remained how to read, how to quit opium (struggle session miracle cures,) how to expertly wage guerilla warfare, made them feel dignified again by letting them kill their hated landlords, and filled them with hope for the future. 
+From a civilizational perspective, Mao’s regime was the first Chinese state in 300+ years able to motivate the vast peasantry into accomplishing mass feats of military heroism on modern battlefields and fanatically struggle as one for a better tomorrow. the only perspective from which Mao is truly loathsome is a Western Faustian individualist perspective, not inherent to most of the planet.
+--- 14909924
+>>14909781 (OP)
+Mostly just that nobody really cares to learn about him in the West besides memes
+--- 14909934
+>>14909921
+>versus the Communist Party’s gigantic iron-willed legions that paralyzed the influence of 15 countries in Korea and whose grip could not be loosened with anything less than nuclear carpet-bombing
+Yes, that's why they were forced to a standstill at Seoul despite Mao's claims that he would drive the foreigners off the Korean peninsula in a matter of years.
+--- 14909936
+>>14909915
+>remove thousands of prominent members of the party, kill several who have been in from the start like lin biao, exile others who have also been in from the start like deng until they become loyalists, torture others like peng dehuai to death over a period of years
+yeah bro totally not a real purge
+--- 14909967
+>>14909829
+This is the correct answer. The Sino-Soviet split and Kissinger's moves with the PRC meant that it was politically disadvantageous for the US to spend decades giving the PRC both barrels like they did the USSR. 
+Then the PRC joining the WTO and US companies outsourcing and nearly deindustrializing the US to China also made it inconvenient to spend a bunch of time ragging on the founding father of the country making a ton of American businessmen and politicians fat stacks.
+--- 14909972
+>>14909934
+The boundary between North and South pretty much ended up where it was at the beginning. Mao thought he could drive the UN off the entire peninsula but he was obviously wrong because logistics. 
+
+But, in a sense, that’s a technicality that doesn’t even really matter. Within one year of the Communists seizing power the Chinese people were motivated into becoming a fanatically motivated and coherent fighting force that was capable of inflicting wholesale destruction on the world’s most modern militaries. Entire American divisions were chewed up and spat out north of the Chong’Chon river. The point remains that there’s no fucking way the Qing or the Kuomintang could have accomplished anything even close to the 1950 Chinese rout of the UN out of North Korea. Korea even more so than the communist victory in the civil war is why Mao still has street cred amongst mainland Changs today.
+--- 14909973
+>>14909921
+>also he wasn’t a racist 
+Probably true. His officers catered Indian commies with respect even though they expected nothing from them
+>and appreciated the abilities of women. 
+Yeah no lol. Remember when offered millions of Chinese as slaves to the west because there were too many Chinese in China? He thought of Chinese as bugs and himself as the ant queen.
+--- 14909990
+>>14909973
+>Yeah no lol. Remember when offered millions of Chinese as slaves to the west because there were too many Chinese in China? He thought of Chinese as bugs and himself as the ant queen.
+Because he thought of all people under his control as bugs, stupid. That’s my point. During the cultural revolution more than your fair share of red guards were women, and they were essentially given no distinction apart from the men. they were simply seen as mere fellow revolutionaries allowed to starve and struggle and join militias and get sent down to the countryside to shovel shit alongside the males.
+--- 14910008
+>>14909990
+I made a typo. He want to ship off those women as sex slaves. I don't know how you dont find that misogynistic.
+--- 14910019
+what was the goal of shipping off the women, did he just want less dependents in the short term?
+long term that would just increase western birth rates exponentially
+--- 14910026
+>>14910019
+I think he was just joking but it sure tell how he saw women.
+--- 14910036
+>>14910008
+if he could get away with it he would have just as readily sent off tens of millions of Chinese males to be slaves. Also he was talking to Westerners and decided to lighten the mood a little bit by joking about niggers and girls with them. 
+
+I guess it’d be like asking “if Mao didn’t want nuclear war then why did he say he will inevitably win the future nuclear war even if half of China’s population dies??” Because he never actually launched the nukes or provoked the US enough to nuke, that’s why.
+--- 14910037
+Changoids don't care about how many of their kind were killed by Mao, because they are constantly reminded of the nationalistic argument that he BTFO the arrogant white devils or whatever and that's all that matters.
+
+Westerners actually did pay a lot of attention to Mao's bullshit in the 60s during the Cultural Revolution, but then in the 70s after the Sino-Soviet split was well and truly baked in, Western leaders decided Communist China would be useful in fending off the Russians so everyone started to go easy on them.
+
+It basically stayed that way right until 1989, when we all decided China bad again for about 15 minutes, after which AmCham started lobbying Washington to make nice.
+
+China bad again now, of course, but the focus is less on Mao, and more on contemporary geopolitics.
+--- 14910042
+>>14910008
+Dude, it was a joke. Lighten up.
+--- 14910383
+>>14909781 (OP)
+China went through the Sino-Soviet split and Nixon made a good move by establishing political relations with the PRC, hence he was slandered less in the US media and education system, and thus slandered less in all other US-friendly countries. It's not that complicated. 
+
+First of all, you shouldn't put him in the same box (or anyone from that list, for that matter) with the likes of Hitler. A lot of the millions of deaths cited by some as lives taken by evil communist regimes weren't the cause of deliberate genocide, like what the Nazis were trying to do with the Holocaust and Generalplan Ost. In China in particular, the Great Chinese Famine, caused partially by Mao's policies, was simply another famine to many, Chinese peasants were accustomed to them by that point. There was a famine once every few decades in China, (before the second Sino-Japanese war, during the war it happened every few years) and they killed millions each time. It's kind of ridiculous to blame Mao or his government personally for the convergence of factors that caused this famine, even if he was part of the reason why it happened. 
+
+Secondly, Mao's government made sure that this was the last major famine China faced, due to industrialization and the new political system. Westerners aside, the Chinese view him as a national hero for industrializing the country, protecting national sovereignity by chasing away the Japanese and the western-backed KMT, conducting land reform by giving land to peasants who were quite literally being starved by their landlords, and setting up the first functional government China had in centuries. It's kind of hard to view him as an evil monster when you're living in the PRC and your grandpa remembers living in a hut with barely enough food to survive, while you live in a fairly wealthy developed society with all sorts of modern amenities and things are only looking better every day.
+--- 14910509
+idk seems pretty comfy to me
+https://youtu.be/0NRCGaRNNqg?t=2084 [Embed]
+--- 14910579
+>>14909973
+>Remember when offered millions of Chinese as slaves to the west because there were too many Chinese in China?
+Pretty sure that was a joke (to Kissinger), which you could also read different ways because he was specifically referring to Chinese women, implying they'd make life hell for Americans. Maybe like a "take my wife, please" thing.
+
+>Mao: The trade between our two countries at present is very pitiful. It is gradually increasing. You know China is a very poor country. We don’t have much. What we have in excess is women. (Laughter)
+Kissinger: There are no quotas for those or tariffs.
+>Mao: So if you want them we can give a few of those to you, some tens of thousands. (Laughter)
+Zhou: Of course, on a voluntary basis.
+>Mao: Let them go to your place. They will create disasters. That way you can lessen our burdens. (Laughter)
+--- 14910585
+>>14910383
+>wealthy developed society
+Kek, Chinks are really delusional
+You still have a long way to go to be "developed".
+--- 14910619
+>>14910585
+Here’s a little attention, now go look elsewhere
+--- 14910640
+>>14910619
+You are butthurt because you know it's the truth. China is still third world outside of a few choice coastal cities. We all remember there was a worldwide pandemic because your people eat bats and pangolins at unsanitary turd world "wet markets". It was only three years ago.
+--- 14910772
+>>14910619
+kek
+--- 14911133
+>>14909936
+Not even a single outright murder. Not comparable
+There was no Deng Xiaoping in the USSR because Stalin killed every last one of them
+Also compare Bolshevik treatment of Romanovs vs CCP treatment of the Aisin Gioro clan
+--- 14911369
+>>14910640
+go bow to your negro overlords you pathetic mutt aka amerikneeler
+--- 14911634
+>>14910640
+>China is still third world outside of a few choice coastal cities.
+America is a third world shithole within all its cities
+--- 14911850
+>>14909781 (OP)
+They weren't "accidental" deaths, they were mass murders by the Communist government.
+--- 14911894
+>>14910579
+Why do you worship him so much?
+--- 14913004
+>>14910585
+I said 
+>fairly wealthy developed society
+Which makes a pretty big difference when talking about these sorts of things, since it implies that there's still a lot to be done. In China, the rural parts are still decades behind the urban centers, hence the focus of the current administration on equal development, building infrastructure, and creating housing for future cities. You might know this if you spent more time reading about the countries you want to comment on instead of being a hateful amerimutt.
+--- 14913015
+>>14913004
+And btw, this is based on data from 2005 and mostly meant to illustrate my point. It's probably a lot higher across all areas now.

his/14909928.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,104 @@
+-----
+--- 14909928
+>JESUS IS A REAL HISTORICAL FIGURE B-BECAUSE.... HE JUST IS YOU FUCKING CHUD
+Is there any evidence outside of muh bible at all for Jesus being real?
+--- 14909962
+>>14909928 (OP)
+Dead sea scrolls
+--- 14909968
+>>14909928 (OP)
+Also, why does it matter if you're an atheist whether or not Jesus was a real historical figure?
+--- 14909977
+>>14909962
+200 years before Jesus is born
+>>14909968
+>>>/his/
+--- 14909985
+>>14909977
+Christianity is a real historical movement regardless of whether Jesus was a real historical figure or not
+--- 14909989
+>>14909928 (OP)
+>Is there any evidence outside of muh bible at all for Jesus being real?
+Christcucks will say Tacitus and Josephus, but this is debunked if you look into it.
+
+https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-reliability-of-Josephus-and-Tacitus-in-their-description-of-the-historical-Jesus
+
+Turns out Christcucks literally fabricated evidence
+--- 14909995
+>>14909928 (OP)
+The few early Jewish and Pagan polemics against Christianity that have survived various call Jesus of Nazareth a madman, a charlatan, bastard of a Roman soldier, black magic practioner, etc. They don't deny he existed as a historic figure. 
+The most likely answer is that he existed as a historic figure but not much about him can be verified and the supernatural claims are bullshit, same as Muhammad or Joseph Smith.
+--- 14910002
+>>14909928 (OP)
+https://historyforatheists.com/jesus-mythicism/
+--- 14910018
+>>14909995
+>The few early Jewish and Pagan polemics against Christianity that have survived various call Jesus of Nazareth a madman, a charlatan, bastard of a Roman soldier, black magic practioner, etc. They don't deny he existed as a historic figure.
+cite the dates of these polemics
+--- 14910034
+>>14909928 (OP)
+Were there any serious inquiries into the historicity of Jesus in Roman times? Like when the Romans were persecuting Christians did they ever make any attempts to prove that Jesus wasn't a real person, or after the adopted Christianity as their state religion were there any attempts to prove that Jesus was a real person using their own records?
+--- 14910041
+>>14910002
+If only Richard Carrier's golems were able to read even 3 paragraphs of any writing.
+--- 14910237
+Assuming Jesus didn't exist, what are the theories about his fabrication? Was it a single person who sat down and did all the work or was it just folk tales that merged into a ", Jesus"
+>>14910034
+>Like when the Romans were persecuting Christians did they ever make any attempts to prove that Jesus wasn't a real person, or after the adopted Christianity as their state religion were there any attempts to prove that Jesus was a real person using their own records?
+I don't think people had the imagination to try and hard disprove/approve a historical figure existed. That mind set took several historical revolutions to evolve, this is the same mindset that leads to haplotype studies, experimental archeology and
+--- 14910292
+>>14910237
+Jesus was the judaean version of Joe Sixpack
+--- 14910334
+>>14910237
+Jesus' existence is the most obvious answer if we apply the Occam's Razor. It's way easier to assume he was real (even if the religious stories are fabricated) than to try to pierce down how the fuck did he simply manifested himself into the jewish and judean roman collective imaginary by being fictitious.
+--- 14910340
+>>14909928 (OP)
+>SOCRATES IS A REAL HISTORICAL FIGURE B-BECAUSE.... HE JUST IS YOU FUCKING CHUD
+Is there any evidence outside of muh Socratic Dialogues at all for Socrates being real?
+--- 14911163
+>>14910340
+Other contemporary Athenians like Aristophanes wrote about him
+--- 14911171
+>>14910018
+Not him but the Talmud (The modern Jewish holy book) is the source of the claim that Jesus was born when a Roman soldier cucked Joseph and that he is is currently boiling in shit and cum in hell.
+--- 14911185
+>>14910340
+You can say that but there are schitzos out there that believe the ancient greeks were all fabricated by a Byzantine scholar named Plethon
+
+>Georgios Gemistos Plethon (Greek: Γεώργιος Γεμιστός Πλήθων; Latin: Georgius Gemistus Pletho c.1355/1360 – 1452/1454), commonly known as Gemistos Plethon, was a Greek scholar[4] and one of the most renowned philosophers of the late Byzantine era.[5] He was a chief pioneer of the revival of Greek scholarship in Western Europe.[6] As revealed in his last literary work, the Nomoi or Book of Laws, which he only circulated among close friends, he rejected Christianity in favour of a return to the worship of the classical Hellenic Gods, mixed with ancient wisdom based on Zoroaster and the Magi.[7]
+
+>He re-introduced Plato's ideas to Western Europe during the 1438–1439 Council of Florence, in a failed attempt to reconcile the East–West schism. There,[8] Plethon met and influenced Cosimo de' Medici to found a new Platonic Academy, which, under Marsilio Ficino, would proceed to translate into Latin all of Plato's works, the Enneads of Plotinus, and various other Neoplatonist works.
+
+>Plethon also formulated his political vision in several speeches throughout his life. The phrase that boasted in one of the speeches "We are Hellenes by race and culture", and also, the proposition of a reborn Byzantine Empire following a utopian Hellenic system of government centered in Mystras has generated a lively and fruitful discussion about Byzantine and modern Greek identity.[9] In this regard, Plethon has been labelled both "the last Hellene"[10] and "the first modern Greek".[11]
+--- 14911824
+>>14910237
+There were strains of Jewish thought in the first century that conflated the figure of the messiah with Joshua, who they imagined as a heavenly figure who sat at the right hand of God. Mystical speculation on the nature of a suffering messiah was added to this and eventually the character of the historical Jesus came about to explain the origins of the young Christian religion as it came to distinguish itself entirely from Judaism.
+--- 14911833
+>>14909928 (OP)
+Jesus was mostly divine.
+--- 14912763
+>>14911833
+source: trust me bro
+--- 14912769
+>>14909989
+>the rules and FAQ section literally states you to cite reliable sources
+>cites quora
+Hey, new historicist. What another academic consensus you will came to reject?
+--- 14912771
+>>14909928 (OP)
+The Bible is the evidence
+--- 14912782
+>>14911171
+Why Mishnah and Talmud never rejects Jesus' existence but it actually tries to discredit him? As if he was a real person and they couldnt reject this fact.
+>work Lives of the Twelve Caesars (written 121 CE). The references appear in Claudius 25 and Nero 16 which describe the lives of Roman Emperors Claudius and Nero. The Nero 16 passage refers to the abuses by Nero and mentions how he inflicted punishment on Christians – which is generally dated to around 64 CE.
+So, if Jesus was not a real person where did the Christians came out of in 64 AD?
+--- 14912957
+>>14909928 (OP)
+It takes far more suspension of disbelief to believe he never existed. First century ad isn't long enough ago to be able to completely make up someone and have absolutely no one point it out
+
+Opponents of Christianity could have easily just said he never existed but Jewish sources call him a sorcerer
+--- 14912999
+>>14909989
+>this is debunked if you look into it
+>quora

his/14909980.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,34 @@
+-----
+--- 14909980
+How did we move from multiple anthropomorphic ancient gods with human attributes (faillibility, limited knowledge, lust/love, etc.) who were chill with each other and didn't meddle much in worldly affairs, to the current monotheistic god who's unique, all-knowing, all-powerful and has complete control over your daily life?
+--- 14910131
+>>14909980 (OP)
+>who were chill with each other and didn't meddle much in worldly affairs
+--- 14910305
+A bunch of guys with spears and armor at the behest of rich guys in togas forced a lot of people to believe in it or else they'd die. This happened for many generations and now it's used as proof that civilization couldn't have happened unless they believed in that.
+--- 14910309
+>>14910131
+clearly referring to the current age of man where that would be true.
+--- 14910337
+>>14909980 (OP)
+This was a common criticism of Christianity by pagans, they disliked the idea of an all-knowing and all-seeing God that left no privacy. Yahweh is too voyeuristic, shouldn't a God have more important things to do than spy on people masturbating?
+--- 14910588
+>>14909980 (OP)
+whenever an ancient people was beaten by another people, they usually believed the other people's god(s) was more powerful and started to worship them instead.
+the Jews find a way to reverse that argument by claiming defeat was an intentional punishment from their God because their faith wasn't exclusive. the fall of the first temple made the Jews definitively monotheistic.
+ultimately many people found this system of worship easier to follow. Islam made it even simpler by actually writing down every stupid-but-simple rule so that anyone could easily be faithful without the help of a priest or scholar.
+--- 14911379
+>>14909980 (OP)
+monotheism was the original religion, we returned to it thanks to Christianity
+--- 14911742
+>>14909980 (OP)
+>who were chill with each other
+--- 14911843
+>>14911379
+>Christianity
+>monotheism
+--- 14911883
+>>14910337
+was this a genuine critique? were can i read about it?
+
+Just talking about theology and its relation to privacy in a class and i had this exact same thought. why would a perfect being not give some space to humans?

his/14910038.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,1297 @@
+-----
+--- 14910038
+Has the dna of italians changed since the romans?
+--- 14910056
+everyone has always been a fucking mutt
+--- 14910096
+>>14910056
+Khoisan aren't mutts.
+--- 14910099
+>>14910038 (OP)
+Yep.
+--- 14910160
+>>14910096
+many are actually, some are mixed with bantus and some with dutch / asians
+--- 14910169
+>>14910160
+But there are still many do them who remain isolated and pure.
+--- 14910172
+Barely. They are still the most roman related people in the world.
+--- 14910179
+Italians aren't truly a people. Like the US, they are a lot of different people living under the same state, barely related to each other or only a posteriori.
+--- 14910205
+>>14910179
+This
+>>14910172
+No those would be Iberians or South French, or some Balkanians
+--- 14910231
+>>14910038 (OP)
+Her hair looks dyed lighter and the lighting and make-up makes her skin paler too. Her eyebrows are also done. Might even have colored contacts in too
+--- 14910236
+>>14910172
+Proof?
+--- 14910255
+>>14910231
+>the lighting and make-up makes her skin paler
+>her face is darker than her hand
+Holy cope.
+--- 14910269
+>>14910038 (OP)
+Sicilians are at least half Anatolian
+--- 14910297
+>>14910038 (OP)
+
+
+YES, THEIR D N A HAS CHANGED; NOT QUITE HUMAN NOW.
+--- 14910327
+>>14910099
+kys brownoid
+--- 14910338
+>>14910038 (OP)
+only a little
+--- 14910346
+>>14910179
+Yep. A sicilian is a italic-greek-arab-normando mix, while a lombard is a celto-italic with some german. While speaking highly different languages (the fake centrally imposed artificial "italian" language doesnt count) with very different cultures and worldviews.
+--- 14910352
+a lot, the Italic cline doesn't exist anymore, they were quite more western-Sardinian
+--- 14910364
+>>14910038 (OP)
+Pretty much yes. Although they also resemble Spaniards the most genetically- still, overwhelmingly Southern European.
+--- 14910369
+>>14910346
+shut the fuck up retard
+--- 14910401
+>>14910369
+Show me where I'm wrong, you central government loving boot licking nigger.
+--- 14910430
+>>14910401
+south italians have no arab ancestry and northern italians have no german ancestry
+i agree with the second half of your post tho but calling italian ''fake'' is retarded
+--- 14910435
+>>14910096
+They are
+They even have eurasian dna via eastern african admixture
+--- 14910470
+>>14910430
+Not saying south italians have arab ancestry, only sicilians and only a bit. Its to show the difference among the several different italian regions. Also, northern italiand do have german blood but it is also in a quite small amount, specially northeastern italians. Italian language is merely the florentian dialect with some additional stuff being imposed from the top. Local italian regionalities should discard it and go back to speaking their local dialects (same with every single country in the world. "National languages" are pretty much globohomo shit in a smaller level).
+--- 14910528
+>>14910038 (OP)
+Nope.
+>>14910236
+--- 14910540
+>>14910528
+>>14910364
+Brown copers, see >>14910099.
+>>14910327
+Whine harder, Mario.
+--- 14910548
+>>14910099
+Daily reminder that these threads are made by a russo-mongolian mutt incel that post naked pictures of himself on anonymous image boards.
+--- 14910552
+>>14910528
+imperial romans are mixed, when people say romans they mean non outlier IA latins and etruscans(similar population) and they mostly resemble western mediterraneans (iberians, corsicans, north italians....)
+
+>>14910540
+begone tartar mutt, no one cares about your trash models
+--- 14910560
+>>14910540
+im not italian inbred goatfucker
+--- 14910569
+>>14910038 (OP)
+Why are russians descended from mongols mixing with iranians? Why do russians want to be white like italians so badly? Italy hardly ever interacts with a desolate land like russia and yet it lives rent free in the heads of mongoliranians every day.
+--- 14910574
+>>14910569
+Muh Scythia
+--- 14910575
+>>14910569
+shut the fuck up with this "white italians", you retarded nigger
+--- 14910578
+>>14910548
+This guy looks like a gay alien twink. Do all russian mutts actually look this deformed? His nose and lips looks undeveloped and I think he's missing an eyebrow.
+--- 14910590
+>>14910038 (OP)
+Of course. There were many massive migratory movements into the peninsula. After such a long time, any place's "DNA" would "change" (very odd phrasing on your part, btw).
+--- 14910597
+>darktroon got a meltdown again
+Kek.
+--- 14910602
+>>14910574
+>>14910575
+Ilya, why is your iranic mutt race so unproductive and useless? You have 2.5x the population of italy and yet white italians still outclass your low iq mutt economy. Seems like a skill issue related to cerebral development. No wonder Russia has always been a backwater shithole since the beginning of their bastard rape inception.
+--- 14910623
+>>14910602
+no KeKman, stop with this white italians bullshit. why can't you make the same points without calling yourself white, you absolute fucking loser
+--- 14910628
+>>14910602
+Whiter than you, Ahmed
+--- 14910631
+What did she mean by this?
+--- 14910638
+russians? not white just like italians
+
+reminders:
+the russians are all west of the urals
+the real g25 coordinates of mordvix (not k15, k13 and k36 simulations) plot with hapa eastern russians
+--- 14910643
+>>14910638
+> pretending English people are white
+--- 14910644
+>>14910638
+the russians from leshukonsky are the closest russians to his actual coordinates
+--- 14910650
+>>14910638
+Oh, it's the whining shitalian!
+>>14910644
+Pay for them. I can send you my raw data.
+--- 14910654
+>>14910643
+russmutt, you aren't white, some western russians are so mongrelized with asians that they are less white than a sicilian shitskin
+--- 14910655
+Yes they got BLEACHED by Germanic Bvlls
+--- 14910660
+>>14910654
+Pay for my actual coordinates.
+--- 14910663
+>>14910654
+Cope. Russians rank amd compete with the whitest races on earth.
+--- 14910668
+>>14910650
+>Pay for them. 
+man, russia is such a shithole, lmao, this guy can't afford 20 dollars
+--- 14910675
+>>14910668
+If you're not poor, you can pay for them yourself. Do it.
+--- 14910678
+>>14910663
+you are a yellow asian
+
+>>14910650
+no no, mord, italians are in the same category as you(not white)
+--- 14910679
+>>14910643
+Tatar mutt
+--- 14910686
+>>14910663
+You will never be European.
+--- 14910691
+>>14910675
+LMAO no
+--- 14910692
+>>14910675
+We don't need to, we already know you resemble leshukonsky samples
+--- 14910693
+>>14910678
+> you are a yellow asian
+You don't even know your race because of generations of mutting
+--- 14910697
+>>14910038 (OP)
+Italians have not changed since late antiquity, but they have changed since early antiquity. Greeks flooded Italy. Not bad thing tho.
+--- 14910701
+>>14910623
+>>14910628
+>>14910631
+Look at how the iranic-mongoloid squirms when the truth comes out. Your entire mutt race is a failure, Ilya. Even 2000 years ago meds were laughing at your idiotic backwards society.
+--- 14910705
+>>14910686
+I don't care about your globohomo mutt race
+--- 14910706
+>>14910678
+>>14910686
+Buy me the coordinates. 
+>>14910691
+>>14910692
+Then begone, poor third world mongrel. 
+>>14910697
+You were supposed to go to sleep. Why are still here?
+--- 14910707
+>>14910697
+>""Greeks""
+lmao
+--- 14910709
+>>14910663
+Russians are nearly pure asians. This is why they are such close allies of china. Same blood.
+--- 14910712
+>>14910548
+Daily reminder that the anon spamming this thing is a literal transexual indian living in a rservation
+--- 14910724
+>>14910707
+Yes, Greeks.
+--- 14910725
+Not quite.
+--- 14910728
+>>14910709
+Russians are asian yellow mutts and not white just like italians or even less white in some cases
+
+
+>>14910706
+You are a mutt
+--- 14910731
+>>14910706
+>third world mongrel
+russmutts like you literally live in the third world? i'm from the us, we're literally numbah one
+
+you are less white than some random sicilian shitskin >>14910638
+it's over mord
+--- 14910732
+>>14910724
+totally, that's why the Italian cline totally starts from Aegean BA
+except it doesn't and you have no actual rebuke
+--- 14910736
+>>14910705
+Russia was the original globohomo mutt race, forged out of brown iranians raping mongol twinks.
+--- 14910738
+>>14910712
+She escaped her reservation, that's why she's here. Our Kshatriyas will come to Michigan soon and take her away though. 
+>>14910728
+>>14910731
+>>14910736
+Buy me coordinates, poorfag.
+--- 14910742
+>>14910706
+>You were supposed to go to sleep. Why are still here?
+Peшил пepeд cнoм зaпocтить cюдa. Bcё, yшeл
+>>14910707
+Yes.
+--- 14910743
+>>14910724
+Oh darkwitch hello
+--- 14910745
+>>14910732
+Actually it does start from the aegean BA and my rebuttal was on point. These Bronze age greek samples literally overlap modern italians, both central and southern. It's not my fault that you're blind and retarded.
+--- 14910746
+>>14910736
+Your race doesn't even know what it is. Too much mutting, they can't even be traced back two generations.
+--- 14910747
+>>14910742
+Cпoкoйнoй нoчи.
+--- 14910750
+>>14910738
+What is this whole tranny discord chasing you? I have came across them calling me out on being (you) several times. They are rather annoying
+--- 14910753
+>>14910745
+>Actually it does start from the aegean BA
+>These Bronze age greek samples literally overlap modern italians
+nope see the cline in >>14910707
+a north European + Syrian mutt will als superficiall "overlap" with Italians, doesn't mean they are the same population
+--- 14910761
+>>14910746
+My race conquered the world before yours even was born from the seed of genghis khan, silly gay alien.
+--- 14910770
+>>14910761
+Cope. Russians fought against the Khan successfully.
+--- 14910771
+>>14910750
+It's mostly just samefagging Indianwitch and one or two incels from 2ch.hk, sometimes also Pakiwitch and Joseph.
+--- 14910780
+>>14910771
+I noticed indianwitch is pretty fixated lately. But your russian fangirls are pretty dumb and stupid. Pakiwitch is too low iq to be annoying. She always gives away herself or has an autistic meltdown with rage 
+
+Whats the ethnicity of these russian speaking trannies obsessed with you? Are they russian or some sort of mistery meat from central asia?
+--- 14910781
+>>14910771
+You are a tatar mutt
+--- 14910782
+>>14910693
+russians are literally yellow mutts. how can you western russians be so genetically distant from white nordic anglos?
+you are a yellow mutt, you belong to the asian race
+--- 14910791
+>>14910770
+>Russians fought against the Khan successfully
+
+Iranian russioids were literally raped into oblivion by a bunch of twink mongols. Don't make me laugh. You freaks will never be european and at no point in history were you ever.
+--- 14910798
+>>14910791
+>>14910771
+Oh look. This one above is indianwitch. She's the one insisting with that scythian stuff and that you are not white. Interesting actually. But what about the fangirl hijras?
+--- 14910802
+>>14910791
+The Russians paid a tribute so the Khan leaves them alone. Then the Russians fought a battle against the Mongols and won. Also, no one cares about your europoor mutt race.
+--- 14910809
+>>14910798
+>>14910802
+Look at Ilya samefagging. Yes Ilya we know. The Iranian Rus offered all of their women as tribute to Genghis Kahn to secure their "victory". Hence the creation of the modern russian state.
+--- 14910812
+>>14910780
+>the ethnicity
+Nobody knows, likely just rural Russians as none of them can afford genetic tests to themselves (it's important as everybody else with whom I argued there before had the results so I couldn't tell these retards apart as separate posters before all the worth people left).
+--- 14910824
+it's literally fucking over for mord
+--- 14910826
+>>14910824
+Lmao, the tatar is not gonna like this
+--- 14910831
+>>14910824
+Pic related is Ilya
+--- 14910833
+>>14910787
+anglos are THE white people, there's no such thing as white without anglos
+
+russians are mostly black haired/black eyed mutts
+--- 14910837
+>>14910833
+Cope. Anglos aren't white. Most of their whites went to America and bred with Africans.
+--- 14910846
+>>14910643
+>this retard thinks English are white
+--- 14910848
+>>14910837
+mordvix, please... you're an half asian brown eyed manlet
+--- 14910852
+>>14910833
+The english are not white in any sense of the word.
+--- 14910853
+>>14910833
+>>14910848
+Like, they got dominated by Romans, they got dominated by French, they got dominated by Swedes, obviously they don't take the top of the pyramid within the white race itself
+--- 14910863
+>>14910852
+>>14910846
+This but unironically. They're half-Gaulish (i.e. Spanish) mutts and can't compete with normal Britishers like Irish and Scottish.
+--- 14910864
+>>14910812
+Really? Why are they so assblasted about you? May they be potato headed goblinitos themselves? Of course one of them is the indian darkwitch:>>14910824
+This one is rather obvious
+--- 14910880
+>>14910853
+Brown
+--- 14910881
+>>14910852
+The russians are not white in any sense of the word
+
+>>14910853
+anglos were never dominated by anyone
+--- 14910885
+>>14910172
+No. Spaniards are probably the most Roman people genetically.
+--- 14910888
+>>14910881
+> anglos were never dominated by anyone
+Try opening a history book
+--- 14910892
+>>14910864
+Tatar mutt
+--- 14910894
+>>14910864
+>yellow mutt talking to himself
+mord, it's not our fault you heavily mixed with asians
+--- 14910896
+>>14910881
+>Dominated by romans
+>dominated by french
+>dominated by americans
+>dominated by pakistanis 
+
+Please, don't make me laugh.
+--- 14910906
+>>14910864
+>Ilya talks to himself again
+
+Your schizophrenia won't save you this time, gay alien.
+--- 14910908
+>>14910896
+>romans
+not the anglo saxons, we were still in denmark and northwest netherlands
+
+>french
+you mean the anglo-like norman upper classes, not actual french mutts
+
+>americans
+anglo americans, our people
+
+>pakistanis
+our colonial slaves
+--- 14910910
+>>14910864
+>so assblasted
+I have not even a clue. Due to their complete lack of interest in prehistory, those are likely low-IQ uneducated scum from 2ch.hk's /b/ who somehow attached to me there.
+>they be potato headed goblinitos themselves
+Undoubtedly they are, as they're poor degenerates and serfs' descendants.
+--- 14910914
+>>14910908
+Yes, I'm sure the romans, french, amerimutts and pakistanis never set foot in your rainy island. That's why your capital is literally ruled by pajeets that your natives kneel to.
+--- 14910915
+>>14910906
+Tranny hijra poo why are you having another meltdown? Reservation.
+NOW!
+--- 14910920
+>>14910297
+Shut the fuck up mexrement you will never be Mediterranean. You will never be Spanish. You will never even be a fucking castizo. You are a mestizo shit colored toilet cleaner from Monterrey who eats corn and watches Chavo Del 8.
+There is absolutely nothing European about you in appearance, which is why you cling to immaterial things like Spanish history and Catholicism.
+
+Now go jack off to your child foot porn and stir your frijoles.
+--- 14910924
+>>14910906
+>>14910894
+>>14910892
+Darktroon is having another meltdown
+What is she trying?
+Nothing will unrape dravidian hijras and take them out the reservation aryans locked them onto
+--- 14910933
+>>14910910
+Go back to tataristan mutt
+--- 14910935
+>>14910910
+you are not white
+--- 14910936
+>>14910701
+nigger
+--- 14910940
+>>14910709
+russia and china almost annihilated each other in the late 60s
+--- 14910953
+>>14910940
+Yep, everybody actually hates chinks here.
+--- 14910960
+>>14910953
+would rather side with chinks than white people who view meds as cannon fodder
+--- 14910963
+>>14910936
+Yes, we know russians are brown iranid nigger mutts. No need to comment further.
+--- 14910967
+>>14910935
+>>14910933
+Darktroon calm hijra. You already lost 4000 years ago and you havent escaped the reservation yet
+--- 14910970
+>>14910914
+You're either the tatar mutt or the south euro mutt
+--- 14910972
+>>14910914
+that sounds correct, the swarthy roman invasion happened before the anglos settled the island
+the french invasion was a germanic norman invasion, swarthy french mutts were low caste serfs, the normans considered us their brothers in blood
+anglo americans are our brothers in blood too
+pakistanis are our serfs, our slaves
+--- 14910973
+>>14910963
+jump in a pool of bleach faggot
+--- 14910974
+>>14910940
+It's a great shame they didn't, too. 
+>>14910960
+Cannon fodder? White people are literally using Russian mutt slavs as cannon fodder against Russian slavs to this day. We think it's hilarious.
+--- 14910982
+>>14910970
+Silence, Darktroon
+--- 14910983
+>>14910973
+>posts germanic western european mutt
+now post actual russians
+--- 14910986
+>>14910982
+russians are not white, italians are not white, mordvix has brown eyes and is not white
+simple as
+
+>>14910983
+whitest ethnic russian
+--- 14910993
+>>14910986
+Yeah, we Indians are the one White people on Earth.
+--- 14911000
+>>14910986
+Russians are whiter than any british darkies will ever be. Here are your British "whites", hijra. Now back to the reservation.
+--- 14911004
+>>14910935
+mordvix can't defend this, this is 100% similar to his real g25 coordinates, his genetic profile, he's an eastern russian mutt
+it's literally fucking over for mordcels, you can't come back from this, i'm actually pretty scared to know what eastern russian samples are gonna look like if these west russian shitskins are less european than some shitskinned brown sicilian
+--- 14911013
+>>14911000
+they look whiter than russians
+
+>>14910993
+begone, brown
+--- 14911026
+>>14911013
+>shitalian goblin started to false-flagging as a bong 
+No way.
+--- 14911032
+>>14911026
+brown
+--- 14911035
+>>14911032
+Lol no he's yellow
+--- 14911036
+>>14911032
+Goblin.
+--- 14911037
+it's hilarious how the russhit once posted with complete confidence a genetic thing saying he's 10% tatar
+--- 14911040
+>>14911037
+Don't forget his naked pics and ugly ass deformed nose, lmao
+--- 14911048
+>>14911036
+we've all seen your pics, you have brown eyes, you are brown
+--- 14911072
+>>14911048
+Whine, goblinito.
+--- 14911086
+>>14911072
+>51.2% probability of brown eyes
+yep
+
+>58.5% probability of intermediate skin like some random spaniard
+yep
+
+you have brown eyes and swarthy skin, therefore you're a brown shitskin
+--- 14911090
+>>14911086
+> >51.2%
+I.e. green.
+>intermediate skin
+Learn the references, goblinito.
+--- 14911094
+>>14911072
+Embarrassing
+--- 14911096
+>>14911072
+mostly intermediate with some chances of pale skin is basically shitaly levels
+
+real white skinned people mostly score pale on hirisplex, it's over my friend, you are a tatar mutt
+--- 14911104
+>>14910364
+>david reich and iosif lazaridis headcannon
+opinion discarded
+--- 14911108
+>>14911090
+>I.e. green.
+coping brownoid, more than half brown eyes means brown eyes, and we've all seen your pics, you have brown eyes
+
+>Learn the references
+intermediate is what spanairds and other south euro shitskins score
+--- 14911116
+>now the russmutt will cope and say that intermediate is actually light skin and totally not southern european tier shitaskin like the hirisplex references show >>14911096 just like when he said 5'6 is average height cause some monkey from the philippines is even shorter
+--- 14911119
+>>14911086
+>>58.5% probability of intermediate skin like some random spaniard
+Retard, in hirisplex medieval scandinavians score lile 30-40% pale 60% intermediate
+--- 14911123
+>>14911096
+Where are there Scandinavians on this map? They're the reference, not bongs. Also it's the same in Russia and only slightly darker than in Finland, the fairest country in the world).
+>>14911108
+Cope.
+>>14911116
+>height
+~180cm.
+--- 14911134
+>>14911125
+>blonde slaves are pouring wine for a guy who does look like Al Pacino
+This is actually a self-own
+--- 14911136
+>look! my genes say i could have been of fair skin, blue eyes and tall height!
+>of course im actually swarthy and short but i COULD have been white!!!!
+--- 14911141
+>>14911116
+those are scandinavian tier results retard
+--- 14911144
+>>14911134
+darktroon not like this
+
+we are being humilliated again
+--- 14911145
+>>14911123
+You are 170 cm, you finally understood that's manlet tier and are now ashamed
+--- 14911146
+>>14911123
+>~180cm.
+you are literally 5'6 mordvix, brown shitskin, we've all seen you admitting to it many times, you can't go back
+
+>Also it's the same in Russia 
+russia is a mutt shithole
+
+finland is mostly pale, unlike you
+scandis are between finland and white nordic anglos
+
+it's over
+--- 14911151
+>>14911144
+Nice of you to cut the image to exclude what I was talking about, I accept your concession.
+--- 14911153
+>>14911141
+Lmao, it's just fucking over for the shitalian larper.
+--- 14911154
+>>14911134
+clean the shit from your eyes and maybe you will see better
+--- 14911155
+>>14911151
+holy fucking cope, am i supossed to be able to cut the image at all? i accept your concession pajeet tranny
+now back to the reservation
+your sintasha masters demand hijras to work the fields and pick the cotton
+--- 14911164
+>>14911154
+You can't go back. I would delete the original Al Pacino pic if I was you. Check if there's still time... hurry!
+--- 14911165
+reminder that the entire india caste system is based on proximity to scandinavians even within dravidians
+Telugu brahmins have 700% more swedish-like dna thaan shudras and dalits
+--- 14911167
+>>14911141
+you inherited intermediate skin, you are a brown mutt just like some shitskin med samples
+anglos today score mostly pale unlike you
+--- 14911175
+>>14911167
+All Beakers are literally 70-100% intermediate, goblinito. Surrender.
+--- 14911176
+>>14911165
+germanic scandinavians like us, not tatar mutts like mordvix
+--- 14911180
+>>14911175
+that's a thousand years old population that still didn't select for pale skin
+modern northern europeans score mostly pale skin, only shitskins like spanairds score mostly intermediate today, therefore by modern standards you are brown
+--- 14911183
+Btw, reminder that the people that conquered india, established the caste system and put drvidian hijra pygmies into reservations were literally blonder than icelandics and saxons LMAO
+--- 14911186
+>>14911183
+Hijrasisters... not like this, NOT LIKE FUCKING THIS
+my dalit axewound....
+its over
+--- 14911188
+>>14911183
+And those people are not related to your half tatar ass
+--- 14911190
+>>14911180
+An extremely weak try, goblinito. Begone.
+--- 14911191
+>>14910548
+Fuck this is such autism
+--- 14911192
+>>14911183
+they didn't have asian admixture like you
+--- 14911198
+>>14911192
+>>14911188
+>shitalian goblin couldn't even choose a good target for larp
+Pathetic.
+--- 14911200
+>>14911164
+Why would I do that? Because you have shit in your eyes and you cant see?
+--- 14911203
+>>14911188
+hijra, your axewound... 4000 years into reservations... its over
+--- 14911208
+>>14911203
+>the whole caste system in india is based on Aryan/nordic Vs Hijra/Onge ancestry
+
+hijras... not like this
+--- 14911223
+>>14911216
+>aryan deer theory
+--- 14911234
+>>14911216
+>ignores rest of the artworks depicting Alexander the Great to favor one specific depiction
+>brings no scientific reason to back up this choice except "they look wyt :)"
+new to history reading?
+--- 14911236
+>>14911198
+no asian admixture unlike you
+
+shitalian goblins are your brown brothers in muttness btw
+--- 14911237
+>>14911223
+--- 14911243
+>>14911216
+they were related to germanics, not tatar mutt subhumans like you mordvix
+--- 14911246
+>>14911234
+--- 14911248
+>>14911246
+that is not Alexander the Great
+--- 14911255
+>>14911246
+also i dont know who is this vase depicting but mythological characters are very dodgy.
+Just guess who is African and who is Greek in this depiction, yep, mythology makes 0 sense
+--- 14911259
+>>14911248
+>ancient black little mermaid 
+yawn
+--- 14911261
+>>14911255
+(the white woman is the Ethiopian apparently and one looks Nafri is a Greek hero)
+--- 14911262
+>>14911243
+hijra.. not like this
+--- 14911266
+>>14911248
+>>14911234
+Not to mention Italians can be blonde... there's plenty of blonde Italians. Particularly in Rome, not even talking about the North. But we are dealing with a mentally ill person.
+--- 14911270
+>>14911255
+>mayne we wuz kangs how could they be white
+--- 14911275
+>>14911261
+>Nafri
+poo in loo
+--- 14911276
+>>14911259
+>>ancient black little mermaid
+AI malfunction?
+>Plutarch said his skin-
+Funny how he is the only contemprorary of Alexander that depicts him that way. Reminder that this is also a contemprorary depiction >>14911234
+>Roman historian and Roman art
+are you serious?
+>>14911275
+what
+--- 14911281
+>>14911275
+Ethiopians look white in your universe and tan makes hair color dark?
+just admite mythology isnt a good merit.
+--- 14911288
+>>14911262
+you are brown mutt not much different from these shitskinned indians and italians, mord
+the ancient bell beakers and corded ware, as well as the sintashta were closer to germanic populations than to tatar mutts like you
+--- 14911289
+>>14911266
+No one actually cares about these swarthy ancient Roman losers except for this russmutt subhuman
+
+
+They were surpassed by Nordic germanics from any point of view
+--- 14911300
+>>14911255
+the romans and greeks were homosexual shitskins and eliogabalus was a troon emperor
+--- 14911305
+>>14911281
+>we wuz kangs mayne
+Just because some (((anglos))) named the monkeys after an ancient name for white people living there thousands of years ago it means you wuz kangs?
+--- 14911309
+>>14911289
+>darktroon false-flagging again
+Why is she so?
+--- 14911311
+>>14911281
+Also your hair is not "dark". Its pitch black and only pitch black and you cant poo in loo.
+--- 14911317
+>>14911309
+she's been mindbroken, a group of brahmins arrived in michigan and arranged a marriage with her sister
+--- 14911318
+>>14911309
+Yellow Russian mutt and his fantasies
+--- 14911319
+russmutt bros, not like this, we are asian mutts
+--- 14911320
+>>14910038 (OP)
+Russians will never be white.
+--- 14911330
+>>14911317
+brahamins are shitskins just like you, i know that they are probably classified as white according to hapa russians, but we can't tell the different between them
+
+you are a mentally ill asian mutt from russia that sucks the cocks of shitskinned ancient romans from the other side of europe, cause they were another type of shitskins compared to modern shitalians
+let's not even bring up your worship of the greeks, those were real full blown shitskins
+--- 14911337
+>>14911319
+Ahahahahahah, you wuznt them you Russian mutts , you are mixed with asians
+--- 14911338
+>>14911330
+Hijra, enough. Your brahmin masters have returned to take you back into the reservation together with the other dravidian onge asi dalit untouchable ape abos.
+--- 14911339
+>>14911319
+holy shit, tatarbros, what's our response
+--- 14911343
+>>14911330
+lol I just googled for Brahmins... literally undistinguishable from any other Pajeet. This Russhit mutt is fucked in the head.
+--- 14911344
+>>14911317
+What did they do?! They were supposed to take her into the reservation again! As the highest Brahmin, I'll expel these idiots into hijras, to the reservation in which darktroon's kin resides! 
+>>14911330
+I'm in rage, hijra! This time you could sell your sister to pay off but the next time...
+--- 14911347
+>>14911338
+all of them are brown abbos just like you're an asian mutt that will NEVER be germanic and will NEVER be related to germanics and will forever live in the third world shithole that is russmuttistan
+--- 14911348
+>>14911344
+Tatar mutt
+--- 14911350
+>>14910638
+>>14911004
+Mordvix is a turanid like this guy
+https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?233984-Dolichocephalic-Turanid/page3
+--- 14911353
+>>14911344
+>>14911338
+samefagging russmutt
+--- 14911359
+>>14911350
+>>14910548
+--- 14911374
+reminder: we destroyed the ancient romans, and that was a good thing, they were a bunch of pedophilic, homosexual brown rapists, we surpassed them, and by a lot, we created the modern world
+
+real germanics take a huge piece of shit on ancient roman favelas, all the "nordics" worphipping these ancient favela dwelling roman subhumans are half tatar russians like mordvix unrelated to us
+--- 14911375
+>>14911373
+--- 14911377
+>>14910038 (OP)
+Med women and Pashtun women are sooooooo hot
+--- 14911378
+>>14911374
+Greeks were shitskins too
+--- 14911381
+>>14911374
+mord is not gonna like this
+--- 14911387
+>>14911374
+No larp will save you anymore, poojra.
+--- 14911388
+>>14911375
+ugly as fuck, my vandalic ancestors made that hole and i'm proud of that
+--- 14911392
+>>14911387
+Mordvixs brother
+--- 14911393
+>>14911387
+looks eastern russian
+--- 14911399
+>>14911374
+>we created the modern world 
+Imagine being proud of this.
+--- 14911403
+>>14911374
+brown shitalians and asspaniards are still going to attack germanics despite all the evidence points towards their russmutts brothers in muttness
+--- 14911409
+>>14911236
+Do actual mordvix model
+--- 14911410
+>>14911403
+You're desperate, poojra, but nobody takes you seriously. You're brown chimpanzee.
+--- 14911411
+>>14911402
+those 2 actors are northwestern europeans and look whiter than any of you tatar mutts from russia
+--- 14911413
+>>14911388
+poo in loo
+--- 14911414
+>>14911409
+his coords aren't real g25 coords, he can't afford them, they are k13 and k15 simulations
+he's an eastern russian mutt, he resembles the leshukonsky samples the most (the leshukonsky samples are still western russian tho, so he's probably somewhat more asian)
+--- 14911417
+>>14911411
+>>14911413
+--- 14911419
+>>14911175
+>All Beakers are literally 70-100% intermediate, goblinito. Surrender.
+They were darker than modern Europeans but lighter than Yamnaya due to farmer admixture
+--- 14911420
+>>14911414
+The essence of poo's despair.
+--- 14911421
+>>14911410
+you are yellow
+--- 14911428
+>>14910983
+>>14910973
+Both look like quapas
+--- 14911431
+>>14911420
+that's the truth my russian saami guy
+
+>>14911419
+you are a subhuman
+farmer are in that pic, they are intermediate too mostly >>14911167
+they got lighter in the modern day due to selection, modern north europeans score mostly pale >>14911096, for modern standards mordvix is as light skin as some random spanaird
+--- 14911433
+>>14911419
+darktroon, do we start again? beakers were darker than sintasha and more farmer
+--- 14911438
+Bye. Poo in loo.
+--- 14911442
+>>14911414
+This, he's some brown eyed asian mutt
+--- 14911443
+>>14911433
+What do you think about her new larping character? What caused her to start it?
+--- 14911445
+>>14911428
+russmutts like mordvix are literally quapas
+--- 14911452
+>>14911443
+she always liked to hide herself and try to not be exposed, now she's trying to larp as mediterranean or russian, even as anglo, as she always tried to larp as chinese or med.
+yesterday she did that post she makes everyday, the one of the charts with high distance towards random shit samples from mycenaens and the nordic my ancestor
+
+is her daily thread
+--- 14911454
+>>14911443
+i think you should stop samefagging so blatantly, my hapa friend from russia
+
+>>14911414
+yep, russmuttistan was a multicultural experiment just like southern europe and india(mordvix's worst enemies)
+--- 14911460
+>>14911454
+look the goblinito shitalian has joined the chat!
+--- 14911464
+>>14911452
+No, she's trying to larp as Germanic very hard now, this >>14911431 and this >>14911374 are her posts. Never saw her doing so. Or is it the shitalian?
+--- 14911465
+>>14911454
+it's funny how he hates southern europe and india but russia is pretty similar to those shithole
+both lgbt multikulti experiments gone wrong full of mutts that don't even resemble each other
+--- 14911466
+Imagine being some tatar subhuman and LARPing as a Roman because you have some haploautism delusion, while shitting on actual Italians that are literally the Romans... all while posting "proof" of "blonde Romans" as if modern blonde Italians didn't exist.
+
+It's too much I can't even process the world you people live in. I know this fight you are having may make some sense inside your fucked up heads but you are all unhinged. Particularly the Russhit mutt.
+--- 14911472
+>>14911464
+look she's now comparing russia to hijra-land KEK!
+she already tried to larp aas germanic before, remember when her master from tajikstan humilliated them and she started rambling as if she were white and calling out shitskins? is a common behaviour.
+witch gets mindbroken rapidly
+--- 14911475
+>>14911466
+Shitskin Italian begone
+
+>>14911452
+You are a yellow Russian mutt samefagging
+--- 14911476
+>>14911464
+i'm germanic, mutt, you're alone in your misery that's why gotta reply to yourself
+--- 14911482
+>>14911466
+>25% of italians are blonde
+lmao good one, finding a blond italian is like finding a fairy
+--- 14911484
+>>14911472
+russia is a mutt nation full of mutts that don't resemble each other just like shartaly
+and these russians are all western russians btw, the eastern ones are probably even more asianmutted
+--- 14911485
+>>14911466
+shitskin you are not white by literally any metric
+--- 14911486
+>>14911475
+I am literally a blonde Italian. No I will not post my pics here because I am not deranged. We descend from the Greeks, Romans, Etruscans, the Germanics , the Italocelts we are all one people, you are a tatar mutt living on the opposite corner of the Earth. Snap back to reality.
+--- 14911488
+>>14910255
+Niggers have light palms too you goof
+--- 14911490
+>>14911484
+russia is more similar to india in terms of size and diversity
+--- 14911492
+>>14911472
+>she already tried to larp aas germanic before
+Hmm, never have seen. Likely she tries to do that only when she's really desperate. Though this >>14911484 is clearly the shitalian goblin, filename is his.
+--- 14911494
+>>14911484
+russia... 17.000,001 Km2
+italy... 302,073 km2
+i'll let you figure why is not surprising the former are genetically diverse
+--- 14911495
+>>14911492
+>filename is his.
+how do you know?
+--- 14911500
+>>14911492
+ nonono, the shitalian goblinito definitely is here but darktroon also uses those filenames where she haphazardly types random shit to not use repeated filenames, is a common behaviour and many users do it.
+--- 14911502
+>>14911494
+Germanic Americans are identical to each other and to Germanic European and Australians
+Russians are mutts
+--- 14911503
+>>14911490
+exactly, russia it's comparable to india
+
+>>14911486
+shitskin
+--- 14911506
+>>14911484
+italy is smaller than germany and has more genetic distance within itself than auvergne or somewhere in central france has from fucking scotland or norway lmao
+--- 14911507
+>>14911486
+Italians aren't white just like Russians
+Mod is yellow/brown
+--- 14911508
+>>14911484
+russmutt subhumans aren't white
+
+>>14911500
+>>14911492
+samefag samemutt
+--- 14911510
+>>14911506
+yes italians are brown mutt shitskins, exactly like the russians, they are brothers in muttness and both unrelated to germanics
+--- 14911511
+>>14911482
+These people look like chads. Look at the prominent jawline and nose that guy has. He looks like Alexander the great. Meanwhile Ilya looks like fetal alcohol mongol Squidward >>14910548
+--- 14911514
+>>14911494
+Nah. Those northerners are just about 5% of the Russian population while all others are the same, and there's no difference between eastern and western regions, Russia is extremely homogenous. Not protecting pidorashques though (she will never know).
+>>14911495
+Repeating numbers.
+>>14911500
+Likely, but I've never seen her doing so.
+--- 14911519
+>>14911506
+yes? they are multicultural experiments, russians are not a people, they are a bunch of mutts unrelated to each other
+--- 14911523
+>>14911510
+shitalian goblinito why aren't you a single race?
+--- 14911524
+>>14911511
+>prominent jawline
+literally what? he looks like a somali bulbhead just like the russhit
+--- 14911525
+>>14911507
+So? I am literally a Roman descendant. Post pics of blonde Romans, post pics of Dark Haired ones, I descend from both so you can't touch me. You are a tatar mutt and Rome lives rent free in your head.
+--- 14911528
+>>14911511
+kys fucking streetshitter
+--- 14911529
+>>14911507
+russians are white as fuck, no one considers them anything but white lel
+--- 14911537
+>>14911511
+--- 14911542
+>>14911484
+Yeah huge genetic distances. You'd never find that in true Aryans like Germanics...
+--- 14911543
+>>14911514
+>Nah. Those northerners are just about 5% of the Russian population while all others are the same, and there's no difference between eastern and western regions, Russia is extremely homogenous. Not protecting pidorashques though (she will never know).
+coping russmutt
+
+>>14911529
+russians are considered yellow mongols by most of the white world (northwestern europe and ex northern european colonies)
+
+>>14911525
+you descent from shitskins homo pedophiles?
+
+>Rome lives rent free in your head.
+in the heads of tatar subhumans you mean, i'm happy to be related to the longobards and vandals that easily destroyed your shithole
+--- 14911544
+>>14911525
+Rome was a shihole and the fall of Rome was a good thing, we created the modern world
+
+
+>>14911523
+Cause shitalians are just like Russians, not a people
+--- 14911546
+>>14911537
+are italians related in any meaning of the word with normal europeans?
+--- 14911549
+>>14911542
+>he has to cherrypick individual samples
+lol
+--- 14911550
+>>14911542
+>individual samples
+massive russmutt cope, the difference between russmutts when you use individual samples is likewise massively increased
+
+
+>>14911529
+russians are yellow as fuck, they are seen as half mongol shitskins and they were seen like that even in the past, not a new thing
+--- 14911552
+>>14911529
+le liberator face
+--- 14911562
+russmutt bros... we're not related to white people
+--- 14911563
+>>14911544
+>>14911543
+Yet here you are in this thread. Rome lives as rent free in your heads as in the sponge brain of the tatarian. I am out.
+--- 14911568
+>>14911562
+Remember when mord sucked our cocks and wanted to be germanic?
+--- 14911569
+>>14911562
+lmao, they are so fucking yellow-brown
+--- 14911581
+>>14911550
+Lmao we haven't even begun to include austrians, dutch, nords or german swiss. You are delusional, hijra.
+--- 14911584
+>>14911563
+The fall of pedo Rome was a good thing, it allowed us northwestern Europeans to create the modern world, now be thankful to us and stop whining, russian-italian shitskins
+--- 14911585
+>>14911563
+i'm here in this thread to dunk on the russmutt shitskin and put him in his place (below germanic people) i don't care about roman shitskins and their favela shitholes
+--- 14911598
+>>14911569
+>>14911568
+why is this hijra larping as white?
+--- 14911599
+>>14911581
+nice meme, now use averages like any sane person, poo obsessed yellow mutt
+--- 14911606
+>>14911599
+western russians alone are non homogeneous mutts that don't resemble each other
+it's over, mordvix is yellow
+
+>>14911568
+good times, he's never gonna be germanic, he's not related to the pinnacle of europe, the germanic people
+--- 14911620
+>>14911542
+There's a different point.
+>>14911606
+>>14911599
+>>14911585
+Poo, it's neither funny nor interesting. Begone before I become angry.
+--- 14911622
+russmutts are unrelated to germanic people
+--- 14911630
+>>14911622
+>literal wops are closer to whiteness than russhits are
+--- 14911640
+>>14911620
+coping russmutt, that 5% is actually a massive percentage of the russian population
+--- 14911648
+>>14911640
+The tatar mutt nation experiment
+--- 14911649
+>>14911640
+this, russmutt are brown shitskins
+--- 14911651
+>>14911630
+end your life
+--- 14911656
+>>14911651
+insecure mongol is mad actual wops are whiter than he is
+--- 14911659
+>>14911649
+>>14911630
+what are you trying mexcrement goblinito?
+--- 14911661
+>>14911656
+you wish mutt
+--- 14911664
+>>14911659
+I forgot about him at all. Do you think it's him?
+--- 14911665
+reminder, actual g25 coords of mord are closer leshukosky samples
+--- 14911668
+>>14911664
+yes pretty much, i wonder what's her deal here
+--- 14911669
+>>14911664
+mordvix here, no i don't think it's him, i think it's a germanic man, i wish i was like him, i wish i was germanic like him, but i'm just a moksha mutt from eastern russia
+--- 14911678
+>>14911665
+makes sense, he's an eastern mutt
+
+>>14911661
+russia = brown
+you = brown
+--- 14911686
+>>14911668
+He usually appears with the shitalian and often with the hijra, I barely can tell them apart. Are you the Dutch or the Tajik, btw?
+--- 14911687
+can someone test if this is closer or further from white people than mordvix?
+
+Half_Scandinavian_Half_Dagestani,0.12385697500000001,0.11768037499999999,0.0228139375,0.0358703125,-0.00027647500000000047,0.016382925,0.006228225,0.00195305,-0.0271902875,-0.022893187499999995,-0.0036944499999999997,0.004735975,-0.009851737499999999,-0.009225025,0.017627625,0.0028825624999999997,-0.0029287875,0.000726575,-0.0009079375000000002,0.0047186875,0.0030269125000000003,0.0021775375000000004,0.002563174999999999,0.0111103,-0.0008346625
+--- 14911689
+>>14911678
+drink bleach
+--- 14911692
+>>14911686
+я пoзвoлю вaм зaдyмaтьcя нaд этим кoммeнтapиeм, я нe хoчy, чтoбы эти гoблины мeня paздpaжaли
+--- 14911695
+>>14911687
+You can do it yourself 
+
+Mordvix,0.1305779,0.121901,0.067236,0.056050,0.032477,0.020949,0.008651,0.011512,-0.003548,-0.020913,-0.001222,-0.006830,0.011514,0.015406,-0.0070135,-0.002587,0.001546,-0.002032,0.000554,0.001609,-0.003048,-0.002148,0.005870,-0.002871,-0.000337
+Mordvix2,0.130577,0.121901,0.067236,0.056050,0.032477,0.020949,0.008651,0.011512,-0.003548,-0.020913,-0.001222,-0.006830,0.011514,0.015406,-0.0070135,-0.002587,0.001546,-0.002032,0.000554,0.001609,-0.003048,-0.002148,0.005870,-0.002871,-0.000337
+--- 14911699
+>>14911687
+Distance to: English
+0.07505637 Half_Scandinavian_Half_Dagestani
+0.13009973 Russian_Leshukonsky
+
+twice as close
+--- 14911704
+>>14911692
+Пoнял. Кcтaти, тyт мoжeт быть eщё и мyлaт Джoзeф, кoopдинaты пoд твoим пocтoм c тaкими нaзвaниями coхpaнял oн.
+--- 14911706
+>>14911695
+>>14911687
+mord coords
+
+K13_Allelocator,0.142380,0.119645,0.071959,0.056747,0.030315,0.015655,0.011912,0.014248,-0.009576,-0.025209,0.014238,-0.005436,0.010614,0.005916,-0.008186,-0.002902,0.002253,-0.002417,-0.001487,0.000225,-0.005361,0.000254,0.002981,-0.001742,-0.001576
+K15_Allelocator,0.138315,0.119233,0.071403,0.058497,0.032065,0.017981,0.012410,0.014470,-0.008601,-0.023757,0.005331,-0.006163,0.010943,0.013137,-0.009565,-0.003428,0.002975,-0.001880,-0.000211,0.000131,-0.002695,-0.001405,0.002877,-0.002263,-0.000347
+
+
+K15_Genoplot,0.130701,0.119420,0.058814,0.051623,0.032532,0.017812,0.009222,0.013563,-0.004786,-0.016441,-0.001212,-0.0022,0.0114,0.0153,-0.005223,0.000831,0.002111,-0.000704,0.002432,0.001297,-0.002521,-0.005772,0.003850,-0.000509,0.0012
+K36_Allelocator,0.1305779,0.121901,0.067236,0.056050,0.032477,0.020949,0.008651,0.011512,-0.003548,-0.020913,-0.001222,-0.006830,0.011514,0.015406,-0.0070135,-0.002587,0.001546,-0.002032,0.000554,0.001609,-0.003048,-0.002148,0.005870,-0.002871,-0.000337
+
+his real g25 coords are probably more similar to the russian_leshukonsky samples
+--- 14911708
+uh mordvixbros... what does this mean?
+
+Distance to: Mordvix
+0.07961890 Half_Scandinavian_Half_Dagestani
+0.09350997 Russian_Leshukonsky
+are russians mutts?
+--- 14911712
+>>14911689
+russia brown
+--- 14911715
+>>14911704
+>>14911692
+A пoд мoим пocтoм тoчнo щитaльянeц, в тoм тpeдe был имeннo oн.
+--- 14911718
+>>14911708
+russians are non homogeneous mutts
+
+>>14911689
+t. italo-russian mutt
+--- 14911721
+>>14911704
+кaкaя кyчa нaдoeдливых oбeзьян, тaк чтo y нac ecть пapoчкa бaтхepтoвых 2ch.hk oбeзьян, тpaнcвиcтит пaджит, Джoзeф, мeкcкpeмeнт и пaкивич, кoтopыe хoдят вoкpyг
+--- 14911739
+>>14911721
+Eщё ecть двa paзных щитaльянцa: oдин - плaкcивый гaплoayтиcт (ocнoвнoй, cидит итт), втopoй кoyпит инцeльcтвo aльпийцeв (пoявляeтcя peдкo).
+--- 14911741
+>>14911659
+>everyone that types in lower case is le goblinito
+--- 14911743
+>>14911721
+>>14911704
+ты кopичнeвый
+--- 14911749
+>>14911743
+>гoблин пepeшёл нa язык бeлых хoязeв
+Этo бaзa. Now in Spanish.
+--- 14911750
+>>14911739
+paзвe тoт, ктo зaщищaeт aльпийcких oбeзьян, caм нe шитaльcкий cкyлящий гoблин? тoт, кoтopый нe пepecтaeт ныть и жaлoвaтьcя, кoгдa eгo нaзывaют aльпийcким и нe-pимcким? я дyмaю oн в этoй тeмe
+--- 14911764
+>>14911750
+Moжeт быть, нo y них paзныe нaзвaния фaйлoв и втopoй нe был зaмeчeн в пocтингe мoдeлeй c вaхaдyo. Ecли чтo, пepвый - нe дocтoвepный щитaльянeц, этo пpocтo пpeдпoлoжeниe, кoгдa втopoй был пoд щитaльянcким флaгoм в интe.
+--- 14911765
+>>14911721
+>пaкивич
+i thought you were on good terms with the paki. are there two pakis?
+--- 14911767
+>>14911749
+>>14911750
+y тeбя кopичнeвaя кoжa
+--- 14911777
+>>14911765
+"Paki" as label for the Tajik is a literal darktroon's re-force, the one ethnic Pakistani here is the actual Darkwitch from Twitter, Ongeboy.
+--- 14911778
+>>14911765
+there is a pakistani that is a tajik/anglo and a pakistani that is an actual pajeet
+--- 14911783
+>>14911777
+>>14911778
+i see, i gotta up my darkwitch lore. i didnt even know there was a second russian
+--- 14911784
+>>14911764
+Я пoмню, кaк cкyлящий шитaльcкий гoблинитo нaчaл бeзocтaнoвoчнo пyбликoвaть oтcтaлoe дepьмo c тeх фopyмoв пo гeнeтикe, тaких кaк anthrogenica, этo дoвoльнo paздpaжaeт, oднaкo oднa из мoдeлeй мoжeт быть Джoзeфoм или caмoй Дapктpyн, кoтopaя игpaeт poль, интepecнo, измeнит ли Дapктpyн cвoю пoвecткy дня и пoпpoбyй зaявить пpaвa нa итaльянcких гoблинoв, a фepмepcкиe нeгpы в мepy бeлыe.
+--- 14911789
+>>14911783
+the tajik is the guy on the left i think, i'm not sure if he lives in russia, he's the one obsessed with dravidians >>14911262 and lately he's been obsessed with southern europeans as well but i think he actually always was
+--- 14911795
+>>14911784
+>>14911764
+>>14911750
+Can you guys speak a white language?
+--- 14911796
+>>14911749
+>>14911750
+Poccия нaция мyлaтoв, кaк Итaлия и Индия. (злeйшиe вpaги Mopдвикca)
+--- 14911798
+>>14911789
+darktoon, be banished, no one is obsessed with your inferior slave race
+--- 14911819
+>>14911784
+>фopyмoв пo гeнeтикe
+Bтopoй щитaльянeц вpoдe бы вooбщe нe был зaмeчeн в диcкyccиях кoнкpeтнo пo гeнeтикe. Я o нём впepвыe yзнaл в этoм (>>14911372 →) тpeдe, нo вpoдe бы видeл и paньшe. 
+>Джoзeфoм
+Oн лeгкo выявляeтcя пo eгo идиoтcким мoдeлям: oн нe мoжeт дeлaть нopмaльныe, пoтoмy чтo тoгдa вce yвидят, чтo oн caм дaжe близкo нe ceмит.
+>измeнит ли
+Я нe yвepeн, былa ли oнa зaвoдилoй итт: здecь был ocнoвнoй пocтep, кoтopый лapпил кaк гepмaнeц, и oдин-двa eмy пoддaкивaющих. Этo либo пapa иcтepичкa+индиaнвитч, либo пapa индиaнвитч+пaкивитч.
+--- 14911841
+I wonder if the indog is lurking right now
+--- 14911918
+>we wuz Romans and shiet
+>types in Asiatic moonrunes
+--- 14911922
+>>14911918
+least asian admixed and asian looking russian

his/14910256.txt

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+-----
+--- 14910256
+now that the dust has settled, who was in the wrong here?
+--- 14910264
+>>14910256 (OP)
+the british for importing africans in the first place
+the USA would have colonized the solar system by now if they had just left them in Africa
+--- 14910296
+>>14910264
+I think we need to learn a big lesson here: in the long run slavery leads to the degradation of society, not to the progress
+--- 14910329
+Fuck off, there's still a thread about it up and it always devolves into a shitfling shitfest. Its always the same damn arguments and posts, ffs.
+
+The Union is wrong tho. Because fuck centralism. Separatist Pride World Wide.
+--- 14910341
+>>14910256 (OP)
+
+ >who was in the wrong here? 
+ The Union. The South had the right to secede from the union just as the colonialists had a right to secede from the British empire.
+--- 14910382
+>>14910341
+Yep. True America died after the War. It's been a judeo-masonic continental sized tool and economic zone ever since. May L*n*o*n burn in helllfire forever, fucking prick.
+--- 14910385
+>>14910341
+The north had a right to fight the south because the south became a foreign country
+--- 14910410
+The Union were assholes, but the Confederates were retarded assholes, so the Confederacy.
+--- 14910448
+>>14910341
+The South never gained recognition from foreign powers. Jefferson Davis tried to give the south legitimacy by asking European powers to recognize it as its own seperate state, but his diplomatic missions all failed, becuase by that point Europe had abolished slavery themselves.
+
+And yes, it really was all about slavery, to say it wasn't is just Southern lost cause cope bullshit. More specifically it was about Congress voting to block Slave States proposals to industrialize, because there was a fear they'd just use slave labor to build their infrastructure, giving wealthy industrialists a reason to relocate their bases of operations to Southern States, without having to pay workers they would've easilly dominated American industry for the forseeable future. Thats what the South was really "fighting for". A wealthy class of industrialists that worked against Americas interests. The South were a bunch of retards.
+--- 14910482
+>>14910448
+>it really was all about slavery
+nope
+--- 14910577
+>>14910256 (OP)
+CSA. Search for "Knights of the Golden Circle". They plan was the same as their political progeny now: have an upper caste of Jews/Whites that own and rule over a majority Mestizo/Black horde that is dependent on their master for survival. The only significant change is that instead of conquest of the Latin/Caribbean countries they're importing and then subsidizing them to replace the nation.
+
+https://www.transnotitia.com/freemasonry-and-the-confederacy/
+--- 14910605
+>>14910577
+>The Knights of the Golden Circle, Freemasonry, and other Secret Societies infiltrated the leaders of the North and South. Judah P. Benjamin was a Jewish strategist (who some believe worked for the House of Rothschild) who had a crucial part in the Civil War. Benjamin lived from 1811 to 1884. Now, he was born as a British subject in the West Indies. Judah Philip Benjamin became a citizen of America. His father was one of the founders of the Reform congregation in America (His father was Philip Benjamin from England). Benjamin was raised in Charleston, South Carolina. Judah Benjamin owned slaves. He was a traitor to his Jewish race since his ancestors experienced Egyptian oppression, yet he supported slavery that was oppressive against black Americans. That is why Republican Benjamin Wade of Ohio accused him of being an Israelite in Egyptian clothing." Wade is right, because Judah Benjamin deserted the real tenets of the religion of Moses. In September 1861, Judah Benjamin was the Confederate Secretary of War. Later, he became the Confederate States’ Secretary of State. He quarreled with the Confederate Generals P.G.T. Beauregard and Stonewall Jackson. This came to a head over the loss of Roanoke Island to the Union "without a fight" in February 1862
+--- 14910611
+>>14910605
+>Confederate leader Jefferson Davis was responsible for this. Judah Benjamin was so desperate after Confederate defeats that he said that: “…Let us say to every Negro who wishes to go into the ranks, 'Go and fight - you are free…“ Robert E. Lee supported the proposal, but it was too late. The Civil War ended the Confederate nation. Judah Benjamin died in Paris at May 6, 1884. Some have accused Benjamin of being a conspirator of Abraham Lincoln’s assassination. Yet, those responsible for Lincoln’s assassination didn’t include Benjamin per se, but the Vatican/Jesuit network (since many coconspirators like Surratt, etc. were in fact Roman Catholics), the Knights of the Golden Circle, and other secret orders (working with the international banking elite). This has been proven by numerous books from CT Wilcox’s book to others. According to Joseph Geringer, John Wilkes Booth was a member of the Knights of the Golden Circle."
+
+>It’s a known historical fact that many Sephardic Jews (not all Jews), related to the B’nai B’rith were involved in the slave trade. Charleston’s B’nai B’rith leader Edwin Deleon’s family were slave traders. Deleon advocated a stronger Anglo-American alliance. The B’nai B’rith lodge was pro-slavery for the most part. Simon Wolf (18551953) was one of the famous Order of the B’nai B’rith members who was arrested by Lafayette C. Baker (Chief of the U.S. Secret Service) on charges on spying and blockading the Confederacy. In fact, Wolf and Benjamin Peixoto (another B’nai B’rith person) were close friends with John Wilkes Booth (assassin of Abraham Lincoln and according to Izola Forrester’s This One Mad Act was again a member of the Knights of the Golden Circle. Forrester was John Wilkes Booth’s granddaughter so this source does indeed have credibility)
+--- 14910639
+>>14910611
+>Let it also be known that many Jewish people opposed slavery and publicly called for the freedom of African Americans during the 19th century. In the Civil War, twice as many Jews fought for the Union as for the Confederacy. Northern Jews, many of them recent German immigrants, were strongly pro-republican and anti-slavery. Now let’s go into the 20th century. James Bulloch was a confederate exile, which was Judah Benjamin’s secret service liaison man in England. Bulloch a Confederate chief arms procurer. He was arrested in 1854 in the Cuban/Quitman fiasco. Gustavus Myers was a channel between Judah Benjamin and August Belmont. Hays and many Jewish leaders in Virginia back then were linked to the Rothschilds of London and the Freemasons
+
+>The worldview of the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) today is clearly reflected in the words of Confederate Judah Benjamin, a British intelligence agent and member of Albert Pike's Scottish Rite Masonic circles. In 1856, Benjamin claimed, "Only slaves can farm the tropics," and complained that the independence movement that freed Haiti's slaves in 1891 had sunk Haiti. That claim is not a historical oddity. In the early 20th century, it was the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) that revived the Ku Klux Klan, a group that murdered and terrorized black Americans
+--- 14910648
+>>14910639
+>Now to remove all doubts; I'll take a few moments to give you the documentary proof of this racial-strife plot. First of all they had to create the leadership and organizations to draw in millions of dupes, both Jewish and Negroes, who would do the demonstrating and commit the rioting, looting, and lawlessness. So in 1909; Schiff, the Lehmans, and other conspirators, organized and set up the "National Association for the Advancement of the Coloured People" known as the "NAACP." The presidents, directors, and legal councils of the NAACP were always "white men Jews" appointed by Schiff and this is the case to this very day
+
+>Then in 1913; the Schiff group organized the "Anti-defamation League of the B'nai B'rith" commonly known as the "ADL" to serve as the gestapo and hatchet-man outfit for the entire great conspiracy. Today the sinister "ADL" maintains over 2,000 agencies in all parts of our country and they advise and completely control every action of the "NAACP" or of the "Urban League" of all the other so-called Negro civil-rights organizations throughout the nation including such leaders as Martin Luther King, Stockely Carmichael, Barnard Rustin, and others of the ilk
+
+>In addition; the "ADL" acquired absolute control of the advertising-budgets of many department-stores, hotel-chains, and TV and Radio industrialist sponsors, also advertising-agencies in order to control practically all the mass-communications media and force every loyal newspaper to slant and falsify the news and to further incite; and, at the same time create sympathy for; the lawlessness and violence of the Negro mobs
+
+>Here is documentary proof of the beginning of their deliberate plot to foment the Negroes into all their lawlessness
+--- 14910653
+>>14910648
+>Around 1910; one Israel Zangwill wrote a play entitled "The Melting-Pot." It was sheer propaganda to incite the Negroes and Jews because the play purportedly visualized how the American people were discriminating against, and persecuting Jews and Negroes. At that time nobody seemed to realize that it was a propaganda play. It was that cleverly-written. The propaganda was well wrapped-up in the truly great entertainment in the play and it was a big Broadway Hit
+
+>Now in those years, the legendary Diamond Jim Brady used to throw a banquet at the famous Delmonico Restaurant in New York after the opening-performance of a popular play. He threw such a party for the cast of "The Melting-Pot," its author, producer, and chosen Broadway celebrities. By then I'd already made a personal mark on the Broadway Theater and was invited to that party. There I met George Bernard Shaw and a Jewish writer named Israel Cohen. Zangwill, Shaw, and Cohen were the ones who created the Fabian Society in England and had worked closely with a Frankfurt Jew named Mordicai who had changed his name to Karl Marx; but remember, at that time both Marxism and Communism were just emerging and nobody paid much attention to either and nobody suspected the propaganda in the writings of those three really brilliant writers
+--- 14910662
+>>14910653
+>At that banquet; Israel Cohen told me that he was then engaged in writing a book which was to be a follow-up on Zangwill's "The Melting- Pot." The title of his book was to be "A Racial-Program for the 20th Century." At that time I was completely absorbed by my work as a playwright, and significant as that title was, its real-objective never dawned on me nor was I interested in reading the book. But it suddenly hit me with the force of a hydrogen-bomb when I received a newspaper clipping of an item published by the Washington D.C. Evening Star in May 1957. That item was a verbatim reprint of the following excerpt in Israel Cohen's book "A Racial-Program for the 20th Century" and it read as I quote:
+
+>"We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tension. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races, that for centuries they have been oppressed by the whites, we can move them to the program of the communist party. In America; we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites; we will instill in the whites a guilt-complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions, and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige; the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause."
+
+>That same excerpt was entered into the Congressional Record of June 7, 1957; by Representative Thomas G. Abernethy. Thus the authenticity of that passage in Cohen's book was fully established. But the one question that remained in my mind was whether it represented the official policy or plot of the Communist Party or just a personal expression of Cohen himself. Hence I sought more proof and I found it in an official pamphlet published in 1935 by the New York Communist Party's official Workers' Library Publishers
+--- 14910666
+>>14910662
+>That pamphlet was entitled: "The Negroes in a Soviet America." It urged the Negroes to rise-up; form a soviet-state in the south, and apply for admission to the Soviet Union. It contained a firm pledge that the revolt would be supported by all American "reds" and all so-called "liberals". On page 38; it promised that a Soviet government would confer greater benefits to Negroes than to whites and again this official communist pamphlet pledged that; I quote: "any act of discrimination or prejudice against a Negro will become a crime under the revolutionary law."
+
+>That statement proved that the excerpt in Israel Cohen's book published in 1913 was an official-edict of the Communist Party and directly in line with the Illuminati-blueprint for world-revolution issued by Weishaupt and later by Albert Pike
+
+>Now there's only one question and that is to prove that the communist regime is directly controlled by the American Jacob Schiff and the London Rothschild masterminds of the great conspiracy. A little later I will provide that proof that will remove even a remote doubt that the Communist Party, as we know it, was created by those masterminds (capitalists if you will note); Schiff, the Warburgs, and the Rothschilds that planned and financed the entire Russian Revolution; the murder of the Czar and his family, and that Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin took their orders directly from Schiff and the other capitalists whom they supposedly are fighting
+--- 14910674
+>>14910666
+>Now can you see why the vile Earl Warren and his equally vile co-Supreme Court justices issued that infamous and treasonous desegregation-decision in 1954? It was to aid and abet the plot of the Illuminati conspirators to create tension and strife between the Negroes and Whites. Can you see why the same Earl Warren issued his decision prohibiting Christian-prayers and Christmas-carols in our schools? Why Kennedy did likewise? And can you see why Johnson and 66 Senators, despite the protests of 90% of the American people, voted for the "Consular Treaty" which opens our entire country to Russian spies and saboteurs? All those 66 Senators are 20th century Benedict Arnolds
+
+>It is up to you and you, all of the American people, to force Congress, our elected servants, to haul in those American traitors for impeachments and that when proven guilty; they all be given the punishment prescribed for traitors who aid and abet our enemies. And that includes the enforcing of rigid investigations by Congress of the "CFR" and all their fronts, such as the "ADL," the "NAACP," "SNIC," and such Illuminati tools as Martin Luther King
+
+>Such investigations will completely unmask all the leaders in Washington, D.C. and the Illuminati and all their affiliations and affiliates as traitors carrying-out the Illuminati plot. It will completely unmask the United Nations as the intended crux of the entire plot and force Congress to take the U.S. out of the U.N. and hurl the U.N. out of the U.S.. In fact; it will destroy the U.N. and the entire plot
+--- 14910684
+>>14910674
+>Before I close this phase; I wish to reiterate and stress one vital point which I urge you to never forget if you wish to save our country for your children and their children. Here is the point. Every unconstitutional and unlawful act committed by Woodrow Wilson, by Franklin Roosevelt, by Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy and that are now being committed by Johnson (and today; George Bush and Bill Clinton) is exactly in line with the Illuminati conspirators centuries-old plot outlined by Weishaupt and Albert Pike
+
+>Every vicious decision issued by the traitorous Earl Warren and his equally-traitorous Supreme Court justices was directly in line with what the Illuminati-blueprint required. That all the treason committed by our State Department under Rusk and earlier by John Foster Dulles, and Marshall, also all the treason committed by McNamara and his predecessors is directly in line with that same Illuminati-blueprint for the takeover of the world. Also the amazing treason by various members of our Congress, especially by the 66 Senators who signed for the Consular Treaty, has been committed on orders from the Illuminati
+--- 14910716
+>>14910448
+Well the rich yankees wouldn't have moved after they seceded though so that point is kind of moot
+--- 14910740
+>>14910577
+>>14910605
+>>14910611
+>>14910639
+>>14910639
+>>14910648
+>>14910653
+>>14910653
+>>14910662
+>>14910662
+>>14910666
+>>14910674
+>>14910684
+Forgot to post this:
+
+>The Independent Order of B’nai B’rith formed in 1843 as a Jewish community subproject in the restoration of Masonry by the Scottish Rite and the British foreign office. Though most of its lodges were in the North, B’nai B’rith was openly proConfederate. Though it claimed to be neutral in the war, many of the Order’s Northern spokesmen were stridently pro-slavery. B’nai B’rith’s post-Civil War leaders were pro-Confederate operatives, including later president Simon Wolf, who had been arrested by the War Department in Washington, D.C. as the lawyer for a Confederate spy ring. "Rabbi Isaac Wise established B’nai B’rith’s center for the "liberalizing" of Judaism in Cincinnati, Ohio-coinciding with Cincinnati’s other great Scottish Rite scheme, the launching of the Knights of the Golden Circle. Wise was officially neutral in the Civil War. Core leaders of the B’nai B’rith from then on have been Scottish Rite Masons. The political establishment associated with the Order has always had its headquarters in London
+--- 14911807
+>>14910264
+True that
+--- 14911815
+>>14910448
+>lost cause
+NPC programming

his/14910301.txt

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+-----
+--- 14910301
+>tfw no surviving welsh culture in the scottish lowlands and cumbria
+--- 14911932
+>>14910301 (OP)
+--- 14912285
+>>14910301 (OP)
+For me it's the crimean goths
+--- 14912420
+>>14910301 (OP)
+Tocharians
+--- 14912453
+>>14910301 (OP)
+Empire of Austria

his/14910370.txt

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+-----
+--- 14910370
+According to Oswald Spengler, as western civilization decays, its heart will be consumed by a universal empire like the Romans, Aztecs, or Assyrians. He states that for the west this universal empire would probably be all global spanning due to how influential the west was. I know this can be a polarizing subject for anti Americans but due to the world wars, it looks like america has become the universal empire.
+
+>Large swathes of the planet have integrated and localized American culture 
+>English speaking rapidly spreading
+>Most important global legal disputes are solved in New York courts, one case recently delegitimized equators entire court 
+>Increased tension in the imperial heartland due to massive foreigner influence betting on people like racing horses, bringing it to the brink of civil war (Frankfurt school and globohomo, culture wars, etc.)
+>Americans are using the higher wages to colonize poorer countries like the Roman’s did (I.e. digital nomads, Californians in Mexico City and Lisbon)
+>Both Americas strengths and weaknesses epitomize faustian ideals 
+>Americans legally obligated to defend a quarter of humanity 
+>meltdown of traditional European + Japanese/Korean and Latino cultures (mass immigration with immigrants emulating white and black Americans, increased English speaking, importation of foreign social issues)
+>Modern western identity is increasingly Canadian (how they compare to Americans rather than standing on their two feet as they get more and more Americanized)
+>only actual threat is a separate civilization 
+>all western political structures have been getting more angloesque over the last century
+--- 14910392
+The west is already dead mate, it died in 1945
+--- 14910397
+>>14910370 (OP)
+Btw this isn’t American exceptionalism or nationalist chest beating, in face the meltdown of the traditional euro ethnicities is probably a bad thing. I also want to answer the “they’re Allies question”
+
+Americans view them as Allies because the American empire will never make countries less sovereign than they made their own states, meaning there will be lots of autonomy. Americans also deny it because it would be the death of their identity being a former colony and all. However if you look at how all these states besides maybe France operate, it’s mostly in line and under the American heel. Not even Switzerland is exempt anymore on grounds of FATCA and the US recently bailing out Switzerland banks or how the Swiss are increasingly getting anti Russian with the war.
+--- 14910404
+>>14910392
+It takes literal centuries for civilizations to collapse. Spengler put the world war(s) under the category of age of conflict, as the previously competing countries burn themselves out in grand wars.
+--- 14910429
+>>14910404
+Rome didn't fall in 476, it had been a joke like 250 years prior to that. That pretty much describes the modern west as well, its a decaying corpse in all but name
+--- 14910440
+>>14910429
+The west is closer to 30 BCE if anything. It’s just most of the wests energy has been transferred to the US.
+--- 14910504
+>>14910370 (OP)
+Desu America was basically handed the world on a silver platter in 1991 and it would still be unstoppable if it could handle these three issues
+>Birth rates in decline, but not to the point of no return, just 15 years ago they were even above replacement. This needs to go up given that most of America is still relatively empty and a growing population of native-born Americans would benefit its development.
+>Americans need to lose fucking weight, obesity is a huge drain on both the individual and on health services
+>They really need to sort out their bizarre political culture wars shit that's going on right now, it's creating unnecessary gridlock and preventing a lot of necessary investment and the passage of more important laws
+If it could get those things together I'm convinced that the country would be unstoppable well into the late 21st Century.
+--- 14910625
+>>14910370 (OP)
+America is the late Roman Republic, if you're going by Spengler. Caesar time when?
+--- 14910632
+>>14910440
+Nah, we didn't have any Caesarianism yet, only now are Western countries even getting to post Gracchi Bros. levels of social inequality and polarization
+--- 14910645
+>>14910504
+>Desu America was basically handed the world on a silver platter in 1991 and it would still be unstoppable if it could handle these three issues
+The Fall of the Soviet Union is the Third Punic War of America. Shit's going to hit the fan until the political system changes in some meaningful way. Whether through a dictator or through reform, we cannot continue on our current trajectory
+--- 14910918
+>>14910370 (OP)
+My issue with your proposition is at its first principle. We simply do not live in Assyria or Rome or Ancient China and it is silly to equate our times with theirs. It can be fun to ask who the contemporary Caesar is, but there is no real contemporary. 
+In the modern world, we work modern jobs, die of modern diseases, wage modern wars, build a modern economy, and so on. We will not decay in the same way the Ancient Romans did, no more than we built our empire the same way they did. 
+For example, your comparison neglects that Europe has just as much economic power as the United States and 3-4x its population.
+You spoke of Americans in Mexico City. Imagine we could annex all of Mexico and somehow tame it. It would mean incorporating or exterminating some 150 million people into the United States. You should be able to see, clearly, why empire is a ridiculous concept in the modern age. Annexing and incorporating any amount of territory is simply untenable. You will have to (1) abandon a democratic society in order to manage the conquered peoples, such as by restricting citizens, or (2) turn in Hitler on crack and exterminate/deport hundreds of millions, or (3) grant so many concessions that you are either gaining nothing from the conquests or are even taken over by the subject peoples.
+--- 14910919
+>>14910504
+america is unstoppable as is, thats the danger
+
+>>14910632
+if anything happens in america, it'll be this decade
+--- 14910925
+>>14910919
+>america is unstoppable as is, thats the dange
+nothing is unstoppable
+>if anything happens in america, it'll be this decade
+things are going to get a lot worse then you think 
+The 20s will actually be alright towards the end of them. I know it sounds hard to believe now.
+--- 14911404
+>>14910504
+The mode of American civilisation outside of petty material concerns is something to not be preserved
+--- 14911451
+>>14910397
+Why france in particular? Because they have a rule about limiting english music on the radio?
+--- 14911462
+>>14911451
+Not him, but I'd imagine it's because France is pretty much the only country in the American sphere that still has a truly independent military doctrine and actively works to insulate its culture.
+--- 14911497
+>>14911462
+I dont know a lot about military but I always thought switzerland was very unique as far as their military is concerned. You know they have fortifications around every bridge and giant gun turrets disguised as sheds?
+--- 14911564
+>>14911497
+Yes, but Switzerland is relatively miniscule and in most regards not directly a part of the American sphere. France is, is a major nation with a wholly independent foreign policy, and still engages in its own conflicts regularly, especially in its former colonies in West Africa.
+--- 14911682
+>>14910440
+>BCE
+--- 14911930
+>>14910370 (OP)
+Yeah, if there was one thing Spengler was vindicated on, it wad that yhe West would be consolidated into an Imperium by the winner of the Faustian warring states period. The west and the late Roman Republic look pretty similar. Although Rome didn't control the entire Mediterranean basin directly, it had a series of vassal states like Judea and Egypt which were integrated into the Roman system. Anyone who says that NATO countries or Korea/Japan aren't American vassals are coping. We're also seeing the breakdown of democracy, with people no longer caring about the decorum and unspoken rules of politics, and wealthy populists trying to siege control of the system. Trump is a ceasar figure, but he's not THE ceasar. The institutions ceasar would need to take are still too strong, and frankly Trump is too incompetent to take on that role fully. However, in twenty or thirty years time frame, I think we'll finally get our own Qin Shi Huang
+--- 14912147
+>>14910370 (OP)
+Yes, he’s right. Years ago I studied history and came to the same conclusion, long before I had ever heard of Spengler or his theory.
+
+A peripheral empire/state comes along and consumes the heart of the civilization, which is often fratured into multiple weak states. The Romans came and ate the east Mediterranean Diadochi and divided Greeks in Hellas; the Americans came and ate the weak European states. Russia COULD HAVE become the peripheral consumer. During WWII, Hitler changed the course of history by forcing America to become that empire, by launching Operation Barbarossa against Russia and focusing all his resources on combatting the country. He left his west open to attack by America, and left Russia with a deadly wound. America ate the core of the core (western Europe) while Russia ate only the edge of the core (eastern Europe). This meant that America had “won the race” so to speak. Thus the dying Russia eventually receded back to the periphery and America gully subsumed its place as Caput Mundi, and its role as univeral empire.
+--- 14912169
+>>14910397
+This is cope.
+>he thinks american states are free
+Lol
+Lmao even
+
+Remember little rock? Remember the civil war? Remember ATF raids? Remember anything at all? Western European satrapies may LOOK independent, but its an elaborate illusion. Germany is still literally occupied by the US, and its elections are fake and gay and decided by the US military in DC. Britain is americas bitch lmao. France pretends to be independent but lets be honest its an irrelevant shithole and was even back in wwii. Poland got absorbed over the last 20 years. Even jewkraine is getting roped in now.
+--- 14912206
+>>14911930
+>if you are in an alliance with a nation that is stronger then you, you are a vassal.
+Based on what exactly? Please explain in great detail why this is true.

his/14910426.txt

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+-----
+--- 14910426
+>communists eliminated
+>falangism established
+
+Good job boys, let's go get some of that free love poon from their gf's
+--- 14910434
+>>14910426 (OP)
+nah bro, I don't wanna take some moors' sloppy second, let's go back home, show off our war scars, that always get the gals soaking
+--- 14910486
+>>14910426 (OP)
+>Spain remains the poorest shithole in western Europe
+I love how these literally who ideologies falangism syndicalism integralism etc are all from shithole med states. What happens when you're too stupid, poor and brown for capitalism
+--- 14910496
+>>14910486
+Actually did very good not having to have their economy co-opted by the Marshall Plan Trojan Horse.
+
+They did fine considering they weee sandbagged by both the capitalists and communists.
+--- 14910542
+>>14910426 (OP)
+>>14910496
+Is it really true you're a southeast asian
+--- 14910583
+>is a poor shithole until falangism is replaced with an open economy
+--- 14910734
+>>14910426 (OP)
+>>falangism established
+Never happened. Franco sidelined the Falangists for his run-of-the-mill conservative catholic dictatorship, and then restored the monarchy.
+--- 14911394
+>>14910426 (OP)
+you guys are too far gone
+--- 14911473
+>>14911394
+Gone to 1930's Spain that is
+--- 14911535
+>>14910486
+germsisters, not like this...
+--- 14911540
+>>14910426 (OP)
+>>falangism established
+Franco wasn't a falangist.
+--- 14911571
+>>14911535
+>without Prussia and lost territory 
+And?
+--- 14911625
+>>14911535
+>Switzerland in the center
+Not the best argument against Germans now is it
+How many Nobel prizes has your Latinx country got?
+--- 14911655
+>>14911625
+>b-but what about this different country?!
+Pathetic Hans.
+Anyway, point still stands that Spain isn't the poorest country in Europe, not even close actually.
+--- 14911744
+>>14910542
+OH N-
+--- 14911821
+>>14911535
+i won't take a metric where montenegro is as rich as the netherlands seriously lol
+--- 14911831
+>>14911535
+lol
+--- 14911846
+>>14911535
+Lol.
+--- 14912490
+The victor gone to spoiler
+--- 14912670
+>>14910486
+>>14910734
+>>14911540
+Falangism won. Get over it.
+--- 14912687
+>>14911821
+I'd rather be a mountain nigger than a swamp german
+--- 14912698
+>>14911846
+>Falangism wo-ACK!
+--- 14912703
+>>14910486
+Falangism isn't an ideology, its just general anti-communism.
+--- 14912716
+>>14911625
+Switzerland was white Afghanistan until the French elite made a pact with them to use them for tax evasion after WW1. That was their lucky break, they were the poorest country in europe until they came up with numbered accounts
+--- 14912718
+>>14912716
+is this true?
+--- 14912798
+>>14912698
+>party had to dump Marxism
+>adopt socdem position instead
+
+It’s over gommiecels
+--- 14912849
+>>14911535
+Ukraine looks cute
+--- 14912905
+>>14912798
+>i-its okay because their socdem and not tankies
+Primo de Rivera and all of the FE de la JONS are rolling in their graves.
+--- 14912929
+>>14912905
+it is a worser situation than a simple "socdems took over", Franco ruined everything
+>Carlists
+as Franco started purging Basque activists, and abandoned Carlists as allies to start a new loyal "Falange", Carlists started to lean to leftism and socalism. One of the Carlist princes was even a Titoist. Nowadays, Carlist Movement is a socialist party.
+>Falange
+Their cadres replaces by army cadres by Franco, which made them an authoritarian covservative party rather than a fascist one. Last time falange appeared, it tried to lean to social democracy to win votes but lost the election and separated into 4 differentnillegal groups and one of them is a leftist.
+>Bourbon royalists
+The Bourbon dynasty didnt follow the promise of loyalty given to Franco, they immediately installed liberal democracy and former supporters of Falange became liberal conservatives in purpose
+>Spanish army
+Cannot hold the country together. Catalonia was going to be almost independent until even monarch decided it is too cringe and liberal for him.
+Fascism fails in the end, it becomes yet another liberal conservative regime.
+--- 14913020
+>>14910426 (OP)
+Basado

his/14910471.txt

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+-----
+--- 14910471
+What traditionally cultural games did you play as a child? I played tag.
+--- 14910704
+«LA TRAES», «ESCONDIDAS», «LA BOTELLA», «POLICÍAS, Y LADRONES», «TAZOS», RAYUELA, «QUEMADOS», ET CETERA.
+--- 14912055
+>>14910471 (OP)
+Is that a line up for a new window smoke?
+[spoiler]1.6 and football[/spoiler]
+--- 14912072
+>>14910471 (OP)
+We threw ping pong balls at each other’s backs, then laughed at whoever had the most welts by the end of it. I really don’t know why we thought that was a fun game, and it was never out of malice so it really makes no sense to me in hindsight.
+--- 14912073
+>>14910471 (OP)
+ring the doorbells of our neighbors then run away
+--- 14912251
+>>14910471 (OP)
+>What traditionally cultural games did you play as a child?
+
+I was notoriously bad at making friends, so my childhood was occupied with wandering around ravines, the woods, and catching insects, frogs, and minnows.
+--- 14912953
+>>14910471 (OP)
+At the mosque I would play Cops and robbers, Marco polo, and freeze tag. Mostly the first game.
+--- 14912960
+>>14910471 (OP)
+Wall Ball, 500 (football)

his/14910483.txt

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+-----
+--- 14910483
+Why is socialist heraldry so soulless?
+--- 14910494
+>>14910483 (OP)
+Would you prefer if they used the standard corporate cartoon art style popularized by silicon valley
+--- 14910507
+>>14910494
+dumb stawman
+--- 14910521
+>>14910483 (OP)
+Socialism is for soulless insect people
+--- 14910531
+>>14910521
+Yeah including national socialism.
+--- 14910538
+>>14910531
+Nah, I respect the drip
+--- 14910652
+>>14910483 (OP)
+Materialists with no sense of spiritually
+Not that different to modern capitalists
+--- 14910751
+>>14910483 (OP)
+Looks cozy to me.
+--- 14910767
+>>14910652
+>No sense of spiritually
+--- 14911252
+>>14910507
+How so? It's the only viable alternative in the modern world. Larpers got tossed into the dustbin of history. Aesthetics won't save you on the battlefield or in the market
+--- 14911269
+>>14910483 (OP)
+It's not heraldry and its not supposed to be
+--- 14911278
+>>14910483 (OP)
+
+which alternative do you prefer?
+
+British Style coat of arms with 4 squares and 2 animals
+Latin American clusterfuck coat of arms
+Chernobyl Bird (2 headed eagle)
+Normal bird (one headed eagle)
+Muslim palm tree and a crescent (not to be confused with South Carolina) 
+Ooga booga sheld and spears
+--- 14911280
+>>14910483 (OP)
+It's soulless but kino in a way.
+--- 14911283
+>>14910767
+Even tho its the Taliban's it looks very socialistic like something out Najibullah era of Socialist Afghanistan.
+--- 14911292
+>>14910538
+>the fascists have the outfits
+Well, I don't care for the outfits.
+--- 14911301
+>>14911278
+
+Medieval heraldry is good, look up the coat of arms of Poland or Austria
+--- 14911326
+>>14911301
+
+Poland's coat of arms looks like a chicken that got run over
+
+I prefer simple, yet elegant. 
+Japan, or any Japanese prefecture
+Ukraine
+South Korea
+R.O.C.
+--- 14911332
+Because you define soulless as what hurts your feelings.
+--- 14911516
+>>14911280
+You can animate them too
+
+https://youtu.be/BQoHBO6s538 [Embed]
+--- 14911555
+>>14910483 (OP)
+Because anything beyond the "material reality" (because apaarently only materials exist and ideas does not exist, even though whole ideology is based on compilation of 19th century ideas) is dangerous to society. Marcxism Leninism is like Plato's Republic but replacing the king with a central committee and class division with "classless society", make the whole epistemolgoy written by Aristotle and then maximize the arts seection of the book to the brim. As you know, Plato's Republic suggests art by itself is dangerous and only should be used as a tool of education and propaganda and using real life and realistic material because anything lie and has artistic can spread dangerous ideas. If we take this suggestion literally and tried this, you get Marxist Leninist art.
+--- 14911575
+>>14910507
+Yup . Because anything with soul just can't happen
+--- 14911579
+>>14911283
+Because Talibs literally didnt built anything. They took existing things, destroyed existing things and modified existing things. No matter Afghanistan is failing economically.
+This take applies bot hto the first government and second one
+--- 14911587
+>>14911269
+It really is supposed to be
+--- 14911603
+>>14910483 (OP)
+east germany's seal was kinda kino, but yeah i agree, socialist heraldry tends to be very lame but in a sort of kino way like>>14911280
+said
+--- 14911609
+>>14911603
+>east germany's seal was kinda kino
+feels masonic to me
+--- 14911660
+>>14911609
+thats kinda what makes it look cool, they didnt just coopy soviet aesthetics, they presved german ones but made them red and i think thats kinda cool
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W-GOsw9y_o [Embed]
+--- 14911874
+>>14910494
+Bitch that's what those seals look like
+--- 14912241
+>>14911555
+The funniest thing to me about the idea of only following "material reality" Is that the idea that everything we perceive is actually 100% true to how the universe works is a unscientific fallacy itself. Our senses are flawed cameras that interpret reality in a way that is most useful for survival, not truth. When you see an organism, you're not seeing at a colony of billions of cells, you see it as one holistic being, your perception is limited. What you see and hear isn't actually reality, it's reality filtered through your limited brain, an idea at the end of the day. Even with tools that allow us to dig deeper to the truth, our brains still intercept everything through their own flawed lenses, you're still just making an idea of what you think is the truth rather than truly understanding it.
+--- 14912266
+>>14911516
+PRC flag and emblem are pretty aesthetic. Sadly the aesthetics stop there.
+--- 14912719
+>>14910494
+Socialist emblems are literally the heraldic equivalent of that.

his/14910505.txt

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+-----
+--- 14910505
+Historically, neckties used to be military scarves. How did it transform from a noble symbol into one of wage-slaving submission?
+--- 14911914
+>>14910505 (OP)
+Neckties were always about submission. It comes from merchants having to wear nooses in public to show their loyalty to the king when he came to town.
+--- 14912033
+>>14910505 (OP)
+mass manufacturing