diff --git a/his/14891526.txt b/his/14891526.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5b35e47fa4628cbf0d527b2749a69d58f4eb58fd --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14891526.txt @@ -0,0 +1,360 @@ +----- +--- 14891526 +What caused the surge of incarceration in America beginning in the 90s and peaking in the 2000s? +--- 14891531 +>>14891526 (OP) +Blacks. +--- 14891537 +>>14891531 +Blacks have existed in America before the 90s. +--- 14891538 +war on drugs. you can see it starts rising in the 70s. the 80s were the decade of coke. +--- 14891550 +>>14891537 +democrats passed anti-gang legislation because they were ignoring gangs because that's racist and everybody knew it, they made it a federal offense to be in a gang and so... blacks +--- 14891553 +>>14891537 +So? +--- 14891580 +>>14891537 +Impossible +--- 14891590 +>>14891526 (OP) +Mexicans. +--- 14891592 +>>14891526 (OP) +All these guys are just getting out now +--- 14891605 +longer sentences for drug crimes +--- 14891623 +>>14891526 (OP) +Jews started pushing crack and gangster rap to negros. This created a new more criminal culture than the previous one -- which was still very criminal. +--- 14891733 +>>14891526 (OP) +A massive crime wave started in the 1960s and raged until the early 1990s when a general consensus among politicians was that there needed to be tougher sentencing on criminal. It worked. Crime rates fell across the board for the next 20 years. +--- 14891741 +>>14891526 (OP) +Every once in a while some guy remembers mass incarceration was a thing than revives it. Diff between that and say the 1800s and the pre mid 20th century is just a matter of scale. +--- 14891749 +>>14891733 +>It worked. +It didn't anon. Rates were dropping prior to mass incarceration bit now with prisons being filled up led to costs skyrocketing and many prisons being outsourced or severely underfunded. +--- 14891750 +>>14891733 +> A massive crime wave started in the 1960s +Why +--- 14891753 +>>14891550 +>anti-gang legislation because they were ignoring gangs because that's racist +Lol shut up they never cared about being racist. +--- 14891769 +>>14891753 +Northern Democrats have been nigger kissing libtards since the 70's, Northern democrat political machines are based on political patronage and have been for 200 years, that is, behaving like a mob that "pays off" voters. That's why democrats to this day do everything in their power to ignore black crime, because they're their voters +--- 14891774 +>>14891750 +All crime waves are linked to gang activity. Blacks flooded the inner cities and all the women went on welfare, the jobs all left so what do al the black men do? Blacks don't actually create jobs so they prey on each other, selling heroin and crack and killing each other for the right to do that +--- 14891788 +>>14891769 +>Northern Democrats have been nigger kissing libtards since the 70's +Not really. They have thrown many grouos including blacks under the bus for years. + +>That's why democrats to this day do everything in their power to ignore black crime, because they're their voters +Completely false because some if the hardest crackdowns or promises on being tough on crime cane from Democrats too. Democrats also have kneecapped welfare just like they republican counterparts too. +--- 14891793 +>>14891788 +I honestly think a lot of posters here are just foreigners doing shitty takes on Anerican politics and history lol. Either that or too young lol. +--- 14891961 +>>14891788 +Everyone knows welfare only really benefits brown people, it's obvious.once you realize that and realize how even subconsciously people acknowledge this you can understand why at one point the Democrat party tried to appeal to white people by claiming they wanted lower the benefits. It's all politics, most people arent aware that democrat literally pay brown people to vote for them and consciously do so +--- 14891971 +>>14891961 +>Everyone knows welfare only really benefits brown people +A fuckton of whites are on it snd other forms of social assistance. Stop getting your info from shotholes. + +>It's all politics, most people arent aware that democrat literally pay brown people to vote for them and consciously do so. +There us literally nothing stopping other parties to try to entice other voters. Democrats don't have magic powers. +--- 14891982 +>>14891971 +Whites went from 97% of welfare beneficiaries to now well below 50%, I wouldn't doubt if it was below 40%. If this is okay to you you're a disingenuous nigger +--- 14892019 +>>14891750 +leaded gasoline +--- 14892023 +>>14892019 +Why do you believe that? +--- 14892116 +>>14892023 +he's retarded pay him no mind +--- 14892175 +>>14891750 +Really gets the noggin joggin +--- 14892455 +>>14891526 (OP) +The War on Drugs. The United States government began to use incarceration as a means of policing and controlling communities that were perceived to be involved in or affected by the illegal drug trade. +--- 14892489 +>>14892116 +Lead was also in a lot of paint and schools. +--- 14892492 +>>14891526 (OP) +joggers +--- 14892494 +>>14891982 +>Whites went from 97% of welfare beneficiaries to now well below 50%, +Because other non-whites could now access it since historically they could not and had to rely on charities as whites in most areas gained access to state/fed assistance. The flat number on welfare is still high and that's not counting the people who only earn just enough to be ineligible OR those who keep fluctuating around the line. +--- 14892516 +>>14891537 +hory sheet +--- 14892883 +>>14891526 (OP) +It began in the 70s actually. Legislators and prosecutors started taking discretion in sentencing away from judges. Then judges realized they were allowed to impose the maximum sentence possible if a defendant simply chose to go to trial and not plead guilty. +>>14891733 +It didn't. Crime rates in the US fell roughly in the same proportion they did in other countries at the same time. +--- 14893285 +>>14891750 +Not entirely clear, but leaded gasoline and a high population of young people and unwanted kids were probably factors +--- 14893299 +>>14891526 (OP) +Police worshipping. +Sucking the thin blue cock. +--- 14893317 +Clinton cringe Bill +--- 14893322 +>>14891526 (OP) +Americans have an almost sexual obsession with police and incarceration. Americans are a hypocritical nation of golems who try to claim they’re the center of the “free world” yet are also the prison capital of the world. Americans push for stronger policing, longer sentences, and strict legalism. Americans cheer on overzealous prosecutors. Americans write out disturbingly-detailed fantasies of how they hope criminals are raped by black men in prison, likely due to their mass sexual attraction to black men. + +America is a nation of slaves with a sexual fetish for authority and blacks. +--- 14893327 +>>14893322 +The good news is that there's been a bit of a backlash against this in the scholarly/legal world and general public. People are realizing how unusual and overzealous practices like mandatory minimums, cash bail, and three strikes laws are. +--- 14893328 +>>14893327 +The glory of trial and error +--- 14893337 +>>14893327 +A good portion of the country is still pushing back at any attempt at reform, Florida for example is pushing to make the death penalty not bound by a unanimous jury decision. +--- 14893416 +>>14893322 +>niggers get thrown in prison, rightfully +>THIS IS A SEX THING +lay off the soi lattes +--- 14893426 +>>14891526 (OP) +Cheap prison labour to outsource jobs. +--- 14893431 +>>14893416 +You don't get it, do you? + +By how dumb you are, you are probably american. +--- 14893435 +>>14893431 +>duuuuh nigger dick +>sir I would just like criminals to be put in prison +>NIGGER DICK NIGGER DICK NIGGER DICK +post hands +--- 14893460 +>>14893337 +Jeez I'm pretty sure that's how a particularly famous wrongful near-execution happened +--- 14893465 +>>14891537 +Source? +--- 14894810 +>>14893465 +Uhh anon... +--- 14895254 +>>14891526 (OP) +There's one big factor and a bunch of minor contributing factors. + +The big factor hands down is the 1994 Clinton crime bill and mandatory minimum sentencing. That is one of the worst fucking pieces of legislation ever to pass the President's desk. + +Other contributing factors include Nixon's War on Drugs that preceded the crime bill, RICO and the government crackdown on organized crime and gangs, the prevalence of lead poisoning especially in urban areas stemming from the use of leaded gasoline which led to a measurable uptick in violence, and the overall culture of the judicial system and backlog and insufficient resources for criminal defense, which all incentivize the prosecution to throw the book at you for every little offense, and most (poor and melanin-enriched) defendants to just take a plea deal and go to jail regardless of guilt. +--- 14895296 +>>14893435 +He's not wrong. A lot of Americans have a closet fetish fir prison rape +--- 14895748 +>>14895254 +>insufficient resources for criminal defense, which all incentivize the prosecution to throw the book at you for every little offense +I think one jurisdiction in Alaska or something tried cracking down on coerced plea bargains and instead of the court system collapsing prosecutors just picked the most important cases to prioritize and police knew they had to be thorough and by-the-book when gathering evidence. +--- 14895761 +>>14894810 +I accept your concession. +--- 14895783 +>>14891750 +Boomers coming of age, the sexual revolution, new left terrorism, expanded access to drugs. + +You know what I think lead to a drop of crime after the 90s? Video games. Kids weren't wandering the street with nothing to do after school and the weekends, they were in their rooms playing Xbox with friends. +--- 14895922 +>>14895254 +> Clinton crime bill +Quick rundown on this +--- 14895942 +>>14895783 +>You know what I think lead to a drop of crime after the 90s? +Prosecuting gangbangers as felons and throwing them away for 20 years? +--- 14895947 +>>14895922 +>Democrat mayors ignore organized black crime because they don't want to seem racist +>everybody leaves the cities +>cities become such an embarrassment by the 90's that all republicans have to do is point at the cities to win elections +>democrats super pissed that they have to actually do something +>introduce bill to crack down on black crime +>crime falls precipitously, blacks are super pissed forever +--- 14896074 +>>14891750 +White people started moving out of the cities to suburbs taking all the jobs and wealth with them. The blacks who remained started getting involved with gangs and drug trafficking as it was the only way to make money in the inner cities. Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan were scared of black people and they’re voting power so they started making drug dealing a serious crime to go after black people. +--- 14896154 +>>14895947 +Dumbass, middle class blacks voted on it. Issue was that it turned on them. Stop leaving out key pieces of info and lying a lot. +--- 14896158 +>>14895947 +>>Democrat mayors ignore organized black crime +So now they are organized crime? +--- 14896166 +>>14895922 +Hired like 100k+ police officers, expanded the potential application of the federal death penalty, cracked down on some kinds of firearms and gang offenses. IIRC it also expanded the federal prison system and funded the expansion of state prison systems. It also incentivized three-strikes laws and mandatory longer periods of no parole, euphemistically called "truth in sentencing." +https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/COMPS-10824/uslm/COMPS-10824.xml +--- 14896172 +>>14896166 +That and being heavily reliant on plea bargaining +--- 14896179 +>>14891526 (OP) +The limp-dicked farce of a Law enforcement campaign we hyperbolically call the "War on Drugs." It should've been literal, but our "government" preemptively handicapped itself with a little thing called the 21st amendment. +--- 14896216 +>>14896179 +It failed so badly. It wasn't really made to have an "end" because fundamentally Americans just love getting inebriated on something and have the size and clout to be a huge market that sucks everything in. +--- 14896218 +>>14896216 +>Americans just love getting inebriated on something +Indeed. Just look at our founders... +--- 14896394 +>>14896154 +>like 5 blacks agreed that crime is bad so haha! +do niggers think this is intelligent +--- 14896403 +>>14896394 +You are so stupid. Get the fuck out brownie +--- 14896413 +>>14896403 +Tell me how you think some niggers thinking crime is bad is somehow a monumental achievement for the race +--- 14897753 +>>14896413 +Cry about it +--- 14897758 +>>14891526 (OP) +Purely socioeconomic factors +--- 14897765 +>>14896413 +I'll spell it out for you because your thirdie education system totally neglects literacy. + +>Issue was that it turned on them +It also turned on whites because polcie started becoming more abusive towards them too and engaged in over-policing. +--- 14897915 +>>14897765 +>Muh police brutality +Doesn't exist. Also that doesn't follow logically, you might be mentally ill +--- 14898095 +>>14897915 +>doesn't exist +Take your meds +--- 14898096 +>>14891526 (OP) +Boomers no question. There sociopathic lust for money and to watch others suffer. +--- 14898114 +>>14897915 +>>Muh police brutality +>Doesn't exist. +People day that then act surprised when some twitch cop beats the living snot out if a guy on camera lol. +--- 14898144 +>>14898114 +Yeah that doesn't happen in reality, have you tried staying off of black victimhood twitter +--- 14898185 +>>14891733 +>>14891750 +It didn't. It returned back to normal. +>>14892019 +>>14893285 +How did the ban of leaded gasoline cause a massive surge in incarceration rates? +--- 14898272 +>>14898144 +Stay off boomerbook +--- 14898285 +>>14898272 +Facebook is another nigger conspiracy theory enclave jamal +--- 14898315 +>>14898285 +Okay boomer +--- 14898420 +>>14895254 +they also modified Federal parole so one had to serve at least 75% of their sentence +--- 14899086 +>>14891750 +Heroin, then crack. +--- 14899363 +>>14896074 +>blacks do criminal things +>go to jail +>"this is white peoples fault" +--- 14899396 +>>14897915 +Cops in New Mexico literally fucking murdered an innocent man in his own home last night because they broke into the wrong home and saw he was armed you stupid fucking faggot bootlicker + +I don’t know why anyone sucks cop dick when they’re the ones enforcing unjust laws and snatching your guns +--- 14900436 +>this thread and internet discourse in general +>Increasingly obvious America will have to go through a phase of retarded bleeding heart YIMBYs again until their unleashed pets kill enough innocent people to create a new backlash +Greaaaaaaat. Maybe we'll get a new wave of seedy crime thriller kinos out of it at least. +--- 14900507 +>>14900436 +Shut up brat. Your shit takes aren't any good. +--- 14900510 +>>14900436 +NIMBYism is what destabilizes societies. +--- 14900520 +>>14900436 +>YIMBYs +So denser affordable housing is bad? +--- 14900831 +>>14891750 +Welfare reform allowed single moms to live off daddy government instead of keeping the real dads around. Fatherless children = more crime. Very simple really, there shouldn't be such a debate about it but here we are. +--- 14900843 +>>14899396 +Which alphabet agency is in charge of making sure people don't take revenge on cops and criminals or their families? +--- 14900847 +>>14900831 +>Fatherless children = more crime. +Why do you believe that? +--- 14900866 +>>14900847 +nignogs need really strong parenting to not be complete losers +--- 14901625 +>>14900866 +Dilate +--- 14901759 +>>14900831 +>Welfare reform allowed single moms to live off daddy government instead of keeping the real dads around. +You say that yet policing before during and after welfare targetted Black men such as arbitrary detention. Even with dads, families would still be EXACTLY as poor as they were sans dad and still suffer form poverty. You can't even say "welfare reform" because prior to Blacks beingm able to access welfare they were pretty much barred from welfare that most whites could access and had to rely on charities or Northern organizations. +--- 14902488 +>>14891526 (OP) +The Clinton Administration +--- 14902596 +>>14891526 (OP) + +Rap music +--- 14903076 +>>14901759 +Niggers weren't allowed to get welfare because they were almost always getting money through some side hustle or had some lazy unemployed nigger boyfriend pumping them full of seed + +Welfare reform was about removing these restrictions +--- 14903818 +>>14903076 +I presume you have evidence? +--- 14903831 +>>14895942 +>Prosecuting gangbangers as felons and throwing them away for 20 years? +Or at least until Obama was president and 1960s level of cupcake justice came back. +--- 14904011 +>>14903831 +State and federal justice systems aren't as harsh as they were 40 years ago but they still are stricter than they were in the 50s to early 70s period. Mandatory minimums, three strikes laws, coerced plea bargains, and disproportionately long sentences are still common practice. +--- 14904165 +>>14900847 +>>14901759 +The more opportunities a child has to interact with his or her biological father, the less likely he or she is to commit a crime or have contact with the juvenile justice system (Coley and Medeiros, 2007). In a study of female inmates, more than half came from a father-absent home (Snell, Tracy, & Morton, 1991). Youths who never had a father living with them have the highest incarceration rates (Hill, O’Neill, 1993), while youths in father-only households display no difference in the rate of incarceration from that of children coming from two-parent households (Harper and McLanahan, 2004). In addition, children who come from father-absent homes are at a greater risk for using illicit substances at a younger age (Bronte-Tinkew, Jacinta, Moore, Capps, & Zaff, 2004). The absence of a father in a child’s life may also increase the odds of his or her associating with delinquent peers (Steinberg, 1987). diff --git a/his/14892131.txt b/his/14892131.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d9130cd374d7b01e7d9bb91d1f8fecaa0c4020b6 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14892131.txt @@ -0,0 +1,753 @@ +----- +--- 14892131 +Name a bigger fall from grace. +--- 14892143 +You mean bigger rise from irrelevance. Proto-Celtics were some Alpine warriors who raped the shit out of England, France, Netherlands, Belgium, and Iberia. Modern Celtic speakers in the British Isles are 2% Celtic despite speaking the language of their masters. +--- 14892179 +>Proto-Celtics were some Alpine warriors + +nah + +proto-celtic coalesced around the Atlantic coast about a thousand years before most academics assume (bronze age not iron age) and gradually spread eastwards across the continent (very fat east eventually) + +this is why their modern successors exist where they do, it's basically their urheimat +--- 14892197 +>>14892179 +There is no early bronze age migration from the atlantic coast into central europe +--- 14892216 +>proto-celtic coalesced around the Atlantic coast +Retard. +>about a thousand years before most academics assume +Retard. +>this is why their modern successors exist +Because those Atlantic cuckolds got raped by Alpine Celtics then completely raped by Germanics. Now L21 is 1% in the English despite them being the same as the Welsh genetically. +--- 14892249 +>>14892131 (OP) + +Russia 1991-present +--- 14892263 +>>14892143 +>despite speaking the language of their masters. +What happened in practice was probably that the Proto-Celts raped their immediate neighbours, who were then, say, half-Celtic, who then raped their neighbours, and so on until you're down to almost indetectable levels of admixture from the Proto-Celts, but the Modern Celts would still be relatively heavy rapebabies of whoever was their immediate neighbour back then. It just doesn't really matter. +>>14892179 +This never happened and there is no evidence for it +--- 14892265 +>>14892143 +>raped +british islands, netherlands, iberian and belgian uniparentals are almost homogeneously bell beaker +were celts female warriors? because as far as i know when you rape someone you leave them your ydna kek. celtic incels literally traded their women and they got cucked so hard that the children started speaking their mothers language +--- 14892270 +>>14892265 +Actually, kinda. Celtic women were at least girlbosses it seems and all accounts are unanimous in Celts being immensely homosexual, so it is conceivable that they may have had exceptionally low Y-DNA impact despite conquering pretty hard. +--- 14892275 +>>14892216 +>>14892263 +>>14892265 +>>14892270 +I can't even enjoy internet race wars on this fucking board. I have no clue what any of you fuckers are saying. +--- 14892291 +Celt = "I guess these non-Romans are sort of similar" +--- 14892296 +>>14892291 +Celtic language family and cultural continuity is a matter of fact, don't ask for a coherent genetic profile though, probably the only ethnicity where "it's a language not a race" is entirely true and not a meme +--- 14892301 +>>14892296 +None of the Insular Celts on Britain are genetically similar to one another. They're as similar to the Anglo-Saxons as they are to their "fellow Celts". Celtic "ethnicity" is a giant meme perpetuated by limited Roman historiography on them as a people. Celtic languages being propagated across different groups is strange but not exactly unheard of, just look at Latin languages spoken by various different groups across Europe. +--- 14892305 +>>14892301 +>None of the Insular Celts on Britain are genetically similar to one another. +What kind of absurd claim is this? They're similar to each other, but not to continental Gauls. +>just look at Latin languages spoken by various different groups across Europe. +Are you denying the existence of the Roman Empire? Is assuming it existed a result of limited barbarian historiography? +--- 14892311 +>>14892275 +I can get a basic grasp of this race autism. Haplo autists make my brain hurt +--- 14892426 +>>14892263 +Not really. Irish are mostly Irish Bell Beaker with a bit of Germanic admixture, yet the language and culture of their Celtic masters live on. +--- 14892447 +>>14892426 +This has no relevance to my post +--- 14892457 +>>14892447 +It does because the Irish aren't 50% Britonic and 50% native like that scenario. They're 0% Celtic genetically. +--- 14892571 +>>14892131 (OP) +The downfall of the Greek world. From the pinnacle of the Parthenon to the destruction of Troy. From the age of Achilles to the reign of Alcibiades... +--- 14892575 +>>14892131 (OP) +Nineveh +--- 14893175 +>>14892457 +"Britons" isn't necessarily a single group here, it can easily be one tribe to another tribe without being a single macro-ethnicity, and would certainly go through Picts too. +--- 14893184 +>>14892263 +wrong +>>14892301 +this anon is right, celtic culture spread with a minority not through conquest +--- 14893190 +>>14893175 +picts were brittonic celts +--- 14893197 +>>14892291 +celt=speaker of a celtic language, follower of celtic religion, and elements of shared culture +there was no singular celtic culture +but multiple celtic cultures +--- 14893288 +>>14893184 +A minority that didn't conquer? Do you suppose Celts were Europe's version of Jews? +--- 14893301 +>>14892131 (OP) +--- 14893312 +>>14893288 +no as in people traded with celts and adopted their culture +that and some celts migrated into the region and others in the region adopted the cutlure from them +celts spread due to their at the time revolutionary ideas +they invented things such as the iron plough, the horseshoe, they were the first people to embrace iron working and also steel, they invented chainmail, their military technologies were adopted by the romans and greeks +they downfall came due to a total lack of unity among the celtic people and celtic cultures as a whole +--- 14893342 +>>14893312 +>people traded with celts and adopted their culture +Stopped reading there, come back when you studied the subject +--- 14893376 +>>14893342 +I have, thoroughly for about 2 years now +while yes celts fought battles and invaded terretories a lot of their expansion was through peaceful/semi-peaceful means + +im sorry if this disagrees with the idea people love of of 'heckin epic' naked blue barbarian warrior hoards howling at the moon sacrificing people in giant wickermen +--- 14893385 +The Celts didn't spread as an iron age people to the west + +They pretty much already existed in Western Europe by the time hallstat and la tène culture diffused, probably some time during the bronze age and were basically just reflexive migrations of bell beakers +--- 14893396 +>>14893376 +Never once in the entirety of mankind's existence did a free nation voluntarily adopt the language of another nation without occupation and colonisation. This is a leftist fantasy that has never once occurred in history or prehistory. +--- 14893418 +>>14893312 +>>14893288 +>>14893184 +Gauls contributed half of the autosomal dna in britons. Specially those from England and Wales + +>who arrived at this time and over previous centuries, and who were genetically most similar to ancient individuals from France. >These migrants contributed about half the ancestry of people of England and Wales from the Iron Age, thereby creating a plausible vector for the spread of early Celtic languages into Britain. + +But only 10%-15% of the YDNA. +It means celtic languages in britain are the result of a migration of celts that would eventually getting conquered and raped by the Britons. With the rapebabies adopting the language of the women that raised their children +--- 14893419 +>>14893396 +i see you point but... +The ruling elite would have likely been celts or adopted celtic culture and we're probably looking at changes over decades if not centuries, these cultures would have been celticisied over a period of time not over night +and i do agree that it is fantasy to assume that this was all sunshine and roses, huggy and lovey dovey as the celtic culture still replaced and earlier one and would have likley put down any resistance if it appeared +my point was, that i may have oversimplified desu, is that they didnt conquer in the traditional sense like the romans +the most comman one was probably through migration where they set off, picked up people along the way and converted the people in the destination to celtic culture +genetic evidence shows the vast majority of people in celtic northern italy are the same as those before +--- 14893421 +>>14893418 +>that would eventually getting conquered and raped by the Britons. With the rapebabies adopting the language of the women that raised their children +Not strictly necessary, Y-DNA underachievement is consistent with Celtic culture as described here >>14892270, even if odd. +--- 14893434 +>>14893419 +I would still call that conquest, just in the form taken by a somewhat-mobile tribal culture. Germanics and Slavs worked the same way, but better. +--- 14893438 +>>14893418 +>celts that would eventually getting conquered and raped by the Britons +do you mean saxons or pre-celtic britons as britons (brittonic peoples) themselves were celts? +--- 14893443 +>>14893419 +Its weird because elite burials in iron and bronze age britain still R1b-L21. Also considered the Celtic social patterns (ckan based societies with division based on clans) the celtic ydna should be widespread while actually is rather low. +Ita a more plausible scenario that celts spread through cultural difusion and migration without discarding that the later would end with the conquest of the Celtic migrants and the assimilation of their culture. +--- 14893473 +>>14893443 +There is a curious thing and is that insular celtic languages are the most divergent branch. For some reason gaulish(the branch that would precede britonnic assumed this migration) is more similar to noric (southeastern celtic from austria) than it is to brittonic. While temporarily speaking the divergence time from noric should be more higher than from brittonic for gaulish. +I wonder to which extent is goidelic and brittonic a creolle or of it actually diffused before +--- 14893585 +>>14893473 +>I wonder to which extent is goidelic and brittonic a creolle or of it actually diffused before +you mention that the sentance structure differs in insular languages and i know irish contains some words have and etymology not found in other celtic languages and im sure the same could be said for the other insular languages also +i find the whole p vs q, insular vs continental divisions quite interesting +--- 14893587 +If you've never read Asterix & Obelix you have no say or opinion about the continental Celts, at all. +--- 14893656 +>>14893473 +>(the branch that would precede britonnic assumed this migration) +Gaulish would have presumably mutated as such after the invasion of Britain already took place, Proto-Celtic/Common Celtic did not immediately dissolve upon formation, and the continental languages would be more similar to each other due to continuity while Britain is cut off by sea. +--- 14893681 +>>14893656 +britain isnt exactly cut off though, +the armorican people of north west gaul had large ships and their was constant cross channel traid + archaeologists in france excavating a gaulish (armorican) settlement in brittany found roundhouses alongside the normal square gaulish houses, which suggests an insular prescence +i cant remeber the exact findings but iirc the roundhouses were in a seperate 'district' to the normal square ones, howere im not 100% sure +they did find brittonic dna from some of the skeletons but im afraid i dont remeber any more specific details +--- 14893715 +>>14893656 +but even then britonnic should resemble gaulish more than noric does, given the divergence dates. yet gaulish resemble more other continental languages than it resembles brittonic +--- 14894052 +>>14892131 (OP) +SPQR +--- 14894096 +How could a people who never existed fall from grace? +--- 14894101 +>>14892179 +>proto-celtic coalesced around the Atlantic coast about a thousand years before most academics assume (bronze age not iron age) and gradually spread eastwards across the continent (very fat east eventually) +>this is why their modern successors exist where they do, it's basically their urheimat +This is what celtaboos actually believe +Complete and utter delusion +--- 14894104 +>>14892131 (OP) +Why has northern scotland been left out, the caledonians and later picts were brittonic celts? +--- 14894233 +>>14894104 +Picts were goths +--- 14894236 +>>14892197 +Actually there is, the R1b clades in the Rhineland are downstream from a Beaker find on the coast of France. +--- 14894247 +>>14894233 +we wuz bullshit. +--- 14894296 +>>14894233 +no they weren't, the picts were brittonic celts the closet living language is welsh, they followed celtic customs and relgion + +picts have been subject to a lot of historical revisionism, as people try to use them for their political aims +>Picts were goths +this idea was favoured and spread by the lowland scots who culturally descend from the saxons, they thought the picts being of germanic extraction gave legitimacy to their dominance of scotland, 'it was once ruled by germanics and it is so again' + +>picts were non-indoeuropean +used by pro scottish independence supporters in the past to claim that the picts were so alien, so different, special and different that scotland has always been seperate from everything and should be again + +>picts were gaelic +used by scotish nationalists who dont like the idea that the picts are culturally and linguisticly extinct, now that all scottish people fully embrace highland scottish culture as their own (despite the fact the lowland scots saw it as disgusting and primitive), they dont like the idea of highland scottish culture coming over one day from ireland and they certainly ignore the saxon origins of the lowland scottish culture +they believe that the picts spoke a Q insular celtic language like irish or scottish gaelic and are the true cultural ancestors to the modern scot + +>picts were blue naked barbarian hoards who zergrushed their enemies +pure fiction +--- 14894382 +The Picts were Gaelic +Dalriata was a Pictish fief +You lost incel +--- 14894397 +>>14894382 +>The Picts were Gaelic +how come pictish is a brittonic language +--- 14894430 +Evidence for Picts disappearing +Latin usage stopped using the term Pict while vernacular people continued to refer to the people as Albannach, despite the fact this is inadvertently evidence against them not being Gaelic +A book written 150 years after Kenneth MacAlpin claims he wiped out every single Pict and coincidentally the writer was also racist to the people in Scotland because they practiced different Christian customs +Some placenames in Scotland are supposedly non-Gaelic and all the Gaelic names outside Argyll would have been rapidly introduced after MacAlpin + +Evidence for it being Gaelic +Every inscription in Scotland that is fully understood is in Gaelic or Latin +Many Pictish names can only be from Gaelic +One chronicle records the Pictish kingdom totally destroyed Dalriata +For at least two generations after MacAlpin the Pictish law of succession is still in place +There no archaeological evidence for a genocide that would have had to been greater than that of the Anglo-Saxons +There are Gaelic inscriptions in Shetland +Welsh books occasionally call the Picts Gaels and the Pictish origin myth implies they spoke Gaelic and did not speak a language like Welsh +The best Irish chronicles do not record any conquest done by MacAlpin +King Ciric of Pictland was recorded to have seperated the Pictish church from the Dalriadan 40 years after MacAlpine +An army that fought a Norwegian raider was described as Pictish after MacAlpin +The evidence that records a supposed Dalriadan conquest is so late that it is almost worthless +--- 14894465 +>>14894296 +>non-Indo-European +First suggested by a Welshman +>>14894296 +>goths +First suggested by an Orcadian who still identified with Norway +--- 14894483 +>>14894430 +please explain the brittonic place names in formally pictish areas, please explain the brittonic resembling pictish loan words is scottish gealic +please explain why scottish academics consider it brittoni +and the welsh was prydyn coming from pretani meaning british +the irish word for pict was cruithni coming from qritani which orginates from the same sources as above +--- 14894500 +>>14894483 +>the brittonic place names in formally pictish areas +Please list ones you want me to explain +>, please explain the brittonic resembling pictish loan words is scottish gealic +Above +>please explain why scottish academics consider it brittoni +Because some 19th century linguists decided it +In the 60s-90s people considered pictish to Basque +Modern scholars easily change +And we'll done ignoring all other points +--- 14894503 +>>14894465 +>Orcadian larping as norse +amazing. But also, Oh yeah I forgot those islands were settler colonized by the norse. +--- 14894535 +>>14894247 +>>14894296 +>>14894483 +>>14894500 +picts were goths +>And that these few Welsh names in Scotland are most easily accounted for because they are either very ancient as those of rivers and mountains especially and perhaps of some towns and in that case remains of the old Celtic inhabitants or less ancient as some of towns and villages which arose from churches founded by Welsh clergymen Having thus it is hoped satisfactorily answered the whole arguments if they deserve that name for the Piks being Welsh I shall give the reader an abstract of invincible authorities and facts shewing that they were not Welsh and then leaving this controversy proceed to detail the real origin of the Piks 1 Tacitus says that the Caledonians or Piks were of Germany as he judged from their red hair and other marks that they were Germans The Scandinavians ever have been and are remarkable for red hair as are the other Germans The Welsh and Irish are a black haired race These marks in the days of Tacitus were as decisive as that the African blacks have curled hair the Indian lank hair 2 Eumenius tells that in the time of Julius Cæsar the Piks were the accustomed enemies of the Britons Could the Britons or Welsh be the accustomed enemies of themselves 3 Ammianus Marcellinus mentions the Piks along with the Saxons and other foreign nations who in fested the Britons 4 Gildas says the Piks came ab aquilone from the north to infest the Britons and always speaks of them as quite a different people Had they been really of his own Welsh countrymen what food for declamations had their cruelty to their own brethren been 5 Adomnan who about 690 wrote the Life of Columba the apostle of the Piks mentions that he had an interpreter between him and that people Columba was an Irishman so that the Piks could not be Gael and even from this they would seem not Cumri for we find Patrick a Cumraig preached to the Irish without an interpreter as may be seen in +--- 14894538 +>>14894535 +>interpreter is mentioned 6 Beda a writer eminently learned and superior to his age tells us the Piks came from Scythia as the Britons from Gaul and the Old Scots from Ireland Jornandes and most writers of the dark ages call Scandinavia Scythia and they thought the most ancient Scythians came from it Beda also says there were in his time five languages in Britain Latin English Pikish Scotish British 7 Nennius and Samuel who both lived and wrote in conjunction in 858 tell that the Piks came from the Orkneys about 300 years before Christ These writers were both Welsh and their testimony is conclusive that the Piks were not Welsh for they speak of the Piks while the Pikish name was in full power and mention the Piks as a people spreading in their own time from Galloway to the Orkneys 8 The Saxon Chronicle and whole writers of England and Wales and Scotland and Ireland preceding Camden amounting to perhaps a hundred of all ages who mention the Piks uniformly derive them from Scandinavia and the Orkneys 9 Giraldus Cambrensis positively calls the Piks gentem Gothicam a Gothic nation Even Geofrey of Monmouth says expressly that the Piks came from Scythia to the north of Britain and so downward And he ever describes them as quite a different people from the Welsh for which reason and as he founded a new school in English history he is quoted For though a fabulist he could not be ignorant if the Piks were Welsh or not as they existed in his time under their old name as appears from English writers of the War of the Standard 10 The Piks are uniformly mentioned by all ancient writers who speak of them though without telling their origin as a distinct peculiar people neitherWelsh nor Irish nor Gaelic but as different from either as English from Welsh +--- 14894542 +>>14894538 +>11 The monuments of the Piks the Piks houses & c can neither be found in Wales nor Ireland though in the Orkneys many exist and some in Scandinavia 12 Nennius and Samuel avouch the Piks to have held their usual territory in 858 The Irish Annals of Tighernac and Ulster mention Kenneth and his successors down to Donal II 894 as kings of the Piks Ailred Richard of Hexham and other contemporary writers assert that at the War of the Standard 1138 the Piks claimed the first place in the Scotish army as their ancient right Now the west being given to the Irish the Piks were latterly inhabitants of the north east and south of Scotland as all know the people of which to this day are quite a distinct race from the Highlanders of the west And the language of these parts was always Gothic as innumerable names of places remain to shew and as it is at this day More arguments might be adduced but these are sufficient as they admit of no answer save by rejecting all ancient authorities and facts that is building romance on the ruins of history For he who denies ancient authorities and prefers his own conjectures is a fabulist and not a historian It also deserves remark that of modern authors those confessedly the most eminent for learning have always asserted the Piks to have come from Scandinavia. +--- 14894577 +>>14894500 +>and the welsh was prydyn coming from pretani meaning british +>the irish word for pict was cruithni coming from qritani which orginates from the same sources as above +interesting you ignore the above + +>the brittonic place names in formally pictish areas +caer meaning fort/stronghold - Cardean, Carey, Cargill, Carmurie, Carpow, Carpoway, Crail, Kair, Keir, Kercock, Kirkbuddo, Kirkcaldy, Caerlaverock +pen meaning hill/top/head/cheif - Pandewen, Pennan, Pinderachy, Pinnel +dol meaning field - Dalfouper, Dallas, Dallasbraughty, Doll, Dollar, Dull +mign meaning swamp - Dalmigavie, Meckphen, Meigle, Megen, Megevie, Meggen, Meggernie, Midmar, Midstrath, Migdale, Migger, Migvie, Strathmiglo +coed meaning forrest/wood - Catochil, Inchkeith, Keith, Keith Lundie, Keithack, Keithick, Keithmore, Keithny, Keithney, Keithock, Kitattie, Rothket +tref meaning settlement - Cantray, Cantress, Menstrie, Montrave, Rattray, Tramaud, Trefor, Trefynie, Trostrie, Troustrie +bryn meaning hill - Burnbane, Burnturk, Newburn, Strathburn +pant meaning hollow - Panbride, Panholes, Panlathy, Panmure, Pannanich +llannerch meaning clearing - Landrick, Lanrick, Lendrick + +Aberdeen means mouth of the River Don - Welsh aber +Cupar means confluence - Welsh cymer +Kirkcald means place of the hard fort from caer - fort and caled - hard +Perth means wood/grove - Welsh perth +Yell means unfruitful land - Welsh iâl +Caledonia - hard - Welsh Caled + +>please explain the brittonic resembling pictish loan words is scottish gealic +preas - bush/thicket - Welsh prys +bad - cluster - Breton bod +pailt - plentiful - Cornish pals and Welsh pallt +bagaid - cluster/troop - Welsh bagad +dail - meadow - Welsh dôl +monadh - mountain, moor - Welsh mynydd +mormaer - earl - Welsh mawr + maer +peasg - gash - Welsh pisg +peit - small area of ground - Welsh peth) +pòr - crops - Welsh pawr +--- 14894661 +>>14894577 +>interesting you ignore the above +What is it meant to prove? +>caer +Gaelic cathair pronounce ca-ir +>penn +Every one is used differently so they aren't the same word and the places they are used, like the majority of these words, would have been lost if Dalriadans conquered Pictland +But for pinnan this is pretty clearly the Gaelic Binnean meaning "peak" or just curved hill +>dol +This is a Gaelic word too so the point is null +>mign +None of them actually record this and most make no sense at all given the places they are in +>tref +Gaelic treabh is the same +>Pan +There are many things these could be and none of them could be "hollow" +>aber +Nothing about this prohibits it being Gaelic and there is an example of it on the west coast of Scotland +There is no chance it could survive there from a pre-Gaelic or norse settlement +The rest are just inane and not worth anything + +The question is how could any of these survive a genocidal conquest which would have had to have resulted in entire counties being cleared of people districts? +This question cannot be answered. +For the last list after seeing mormhair used as an example I can see it would be fruitless to criticise it. +--- 14894668 +>>14894577 +So my turn. +You explain this +Every inscription in Scotland that is fully understood is in Gaelic or Latin +Many Pictish names can only be from Gaelic +One chronicle records the Pictish kingdom totally destroyed Dalriata and annexed it into Pictland +For at least two generations after MacAlpin the Pictish law of succession is still in place +There no archaeological evidence for a genocide that would have had to been greater than that of the Anglo-Saxons +There are Gaelic inscriptions in Shetland +Welsh books occasionally call the Picts Gaels and the Pictish origin myth implies they spoke Gaelic and did not speak a language like Welsh +The best Irish chronicles do not record any conquest done by MacAlpin +King Ciric of Pictland was recorded to have seperated the Pictish church from the Dalriadan 40 years after MacAlpine +An army that fought a Norwegian raider was described as Pictish after MacAlpin +The evidence that records a supposed Dalriadan conquest is so late that it is almost worthless +Even cymric supporters suppose that Kenneth had a Pictish mother which would make him a Pict +--- 14894688 +>>14894577 +also lets look at some pictish personal names +Ciniod - containd iod which is brittonnic meaning lord - Welsh udd +Mailcon - Noble dog - Welsh Maelgwn +Resad - related to Welsh Rhys and Gaulish Ressatus + +>The question is how could any of these survive a genocidal conquest which would have had to have resulted in entire counties being cleared of people districts? +>This question cannot be answered. + +The Picts werent genocided they were assimilated + +>how could any of these survive a genocidal conquest which would have had to have resulted in entire counties being cleared of people districts? +how many rivers in england are still called avon long after the romans and the saxons conquered +how many countles place names engaland have a birttonic origin + +>>14894661 +>>14894668 +Both of you are ignoring the work of academics because it doesnt fit your own idea, let me know when your ideas get accepted by anyone of note +--- 14894702 +>>14894661 +no one cares man +--- 14894729 +>>14894688 +>Mailcon - Noble dog - Welsh Maelgwn +That's Gaelic as well +Mal and con are both attested in Gaelic +>ciniod +From cin and aedh it means "rising flame" +Idk about resad +>The Picts werent genocided they were assimilated +Not according to all medieval records which made this idea +You can't pick and choose like that +>>14894688 +>rivers +These are notorious across the world for keeping their names +Small towns full of people that must have been killed aren't +>the work of academics +all of my knowledge is from academics +All of yours is copy and pasted from Wikipedia +--- 14894736 +>>14894702 +"please explain the brittonic place names in" +--- 14894774 +>>14894236 +>R1b clades in the Rhineland are downstream from a Beaker find on the coast of France. +no they aren't, r1b clades of rhineland are downstream from a corded ware guy from central europe and after that found in neolithic period sweden, then in bell beaker netherlands +--- 14894778 +>>14894774 +>>14894236 +btw neolithic as in dagger period/CWC, not ""neolithic"" as in farmer +--- 14894830 +>>14894736 +>>14894729 +>>14894702 +>>14894688 +>>14894668 +>>14894661 +>>14894577 +>It has been amply shewn that the Piks were a Gothic people and the inhabitants of all present Scotland and its isles The Gaël or Celts in Scotland do not now exceed one quarter of the people The Lowlanders of Scotland amount to two thirds of its inhabitants Of the other third being Highlanders and people of the Isles a great part consists of Goths though now using the Celtic tongue For the Old Scots who came into Argyle in 503 were from the north of Ireland and were mixt with Crutheni or Piks inhabitants of these parts though the tongue had been lost in the surrounding Celtic In the Hebudes and in Argyle and the north of Scotland the Norwegians were lords for four centuries from the ninth and they in like manner lost their speech among the more numerous Celts When these parts returned to the Scotish crown the inhabitants remained as before The chief families in the Highlands are all of Norwegian extract The Celtic Mac is nothing it is the name itself we must judge from Thus the Mac Leods are so called from Liod Earl of Orkney: the Mac Sweyns Mac Neils with a score of others all bear the Mac with a Norwegian name Even when the second name is Celtic it was often taken by a Norwegian to gratify his subjects or bestowed by a Highland bard as the Mac Donalds are known to be direct male descendants of Reginald Earl of Orkney These Highland bards it is well known will alter a plain Gothic name to a Celtic one in a moment and are very ready in aspersing people with this honour A part of the Isles still speaks the Gothic tongue namely the whole Orkney and Shetland Isles The other parts speak Gaëlic but of them a great part are Goths though their speech be lost in that of the most numerous people +--- 14894836 +>>14894736 +you've been posting this shit for years and no one believes you or cares you're a figure of ridicule and known boardwide as a meme get a life you freak +--- 14894850 +>>14894836 +okay so you can't actual rebuke anything i've posted +i accept your concession +and also stop pretending anyone but you cares about this +you're obsessed +you need help +--- 14895072 +>>14892131 (OP) +Africa if you genuinely belive Afrocentrist view of history (despite the fact modern middle class africans have better living standard then the richest pre-colonial king) +--- 14895642 +>>14894101 +No, that is what retarded larpers with 0% Celtic ancestry actually believe. Now we know the Irish are 0% Celtic genetically they only speak the language of invading Celts. +--- 14895645 +>>14895642 +>they only speak the language of invading Celts. +Uh... anon... +--- 14895804 +>>14894236 +No, they aren't, and in fact R1b-p312 diversity is highest around the Rhine. (Steppe) Bell Beaker begins archeologically around the Rhine. Steppe ancestry is highest radiating from the Rhine outward etc. +--- 14895876 +>>14895804 +No, diversity for subclades of R1b-p312 are found in the Netherlands and British Isles, with more basal P312 itself being from France. +>Bell Beaker begins at the Rhine +no, it is clearly from a migration out of Germany and Poland from early Corded Ware who expanded in less than a hundred years across Western Europe replacing or ruling Megalithic peoples. +>steppe ancestry is highest from the Rhine outward +Its highest in North Eastern Germany and retained a level of purity in the British isles. +Celtic culture is simply northern post beaker it didnt "spread" +It would be like saying American culture spread from Texas to California in 1950 because California began making cowboy films. +--- 14895890 +>>14895804 + So Luxenburger steppe beakers -> belgium celts -> Irish celts ? +--- 14895898 +>>14895876 +The Rhine is in the Netherlands and British Beakers are from the Rhine. +>basal P312 itself being from France +this doesn't exist, post the sample id +>no, it is clearly from a migration out of Germany and Poland from early Corded Ware who expanded in less than a hundred years across Western Europe replacing or ruling Megalithic peoples. +Bell Beaker typology develops out of Single Grave wares. Regardless, it's from the east, not the atlantic coast. +>Its highest in North Eastern Germany and retained a level of purity in the British isles. +The highest Steppe samples in bell beaker contexts are Dutch Beakers. +--- 14895900 +>>14895893 +what does this mean +--- 14895904 +>>14895890 +I don't think Celts are directly from Beakers, but emerges much later from Bell Beaker descendant R-L2 people. +--- 14895974 +>>14895904 +The estimated effective migration surface of Ireland and Britain from 1803 Irish and British individuals. Shown are the posterior mean migration rates of the six independent EEMS chains + +The low density is posterior migration, if I interpreted that correctly. + +so basically celts are iron age mutts or?? +The blue is of the original megalithic culture. +--- 14896485 +>>14894830 +Celticists absolutely obliterated +--- 14896543 +What modern populations have the most Celtic ancestry? +--- 14896790 +>>14892131 (OP) +>Celtic thread +>Retards saying yoooo they be megalith people from the Atlantic +>Hablogrubs retards galore +>Yoooo nigga, picts were goths and shit (even though goths didn't even fucking exist in 250bc) retards +>"The celts didn't even exist" retards + +Ahh, another day in /his/. +--- 14896855 +>>14896790 +Can you read you dumb fking nigger? +--- 14896922 +>>14895904 +They expanded out of the Alps to conquer the entire Bell Beaker network and enslaved them. +--- 14897322 +>>14896790 +Subhuman Germutt Anglos have a special interest in "disproving" anything good about the Celts. They love using Victorian schizo sources for their claims that they're actually Cimmerian Israelites rather than enslaved mongrels. +--- 14897480 +>>14892131 (OP) +>R1b expansion +Ftfy. We literally control the world btw +--- 14897485 +>>14897480 +R1b was already widespread. +In fact celts failed to expand much paternally. They only expanded arround the alps where they were already majority. + A bit into balkans.... then southwards jnto iberia... a little bit into central france, in belgium its proxied maternally (belgium dominant ydna always was r1b-u106).. thats it. In britain and northern france celtic culture was proxied maternally as dominant ydna is r1b-l21 in spite of being half celtic autosomally +--- 14897486 +Picts = Gaelic +--- 14897487 +>>14892179 +Mental illness +--- 14897492 +>>14897485 +A purely linguistic distinction. R1b has ruled the world for thousands of years. +--- 14897508 +*ahem* + +maritime Bell Beakers + +>The earliest copper production in Ireland, identified at Ross Island in the period 2400–2200 BC, was associated with early Beaker pottery.[2][25] Here, the local sulpharsenide ores were smelted to produce the first copper axes used in Britain and Ireland.[2] The same technologies were used in the Tagus region and in the west and south of France.[2][26] The evidence is sufficient to support the suggestion that the initial spread of Maritime Bell Beakers along the Atlantic and into the Mediterranean, using sea routes that had long been in operation, was directly associated with the quest for copper and other rare raw materials.[2] +--- 14898437 +>>14896790 +>>14897322 +the irish seethe hard when they find out the group that they've been LARPing as for hundreds of years never existed and was invented in the 18th century +--- 14898450 +>>14897486 +picts=gothic +>Tacitus the first writer who mentions the people of Caledonia or Piks expresses his opinion that they were of German origin Beda tells us they came from Scythia a name which Jornandes about 530 had given to Scandinavia and which continued to be applied to that country till the eleventh century when the special denominations of Denmark Sweden and Norway became known to all Europe All the other ancient writers who mention the origin of the Piks derive them from Scandinavia so that no doubt can remain save with such superficial writers as speak of opinions when they should speak of facts and prefer their own weak conceits to that positive evidence upon which alone all ancient history stands Indeed to judge from reason only it might readily be inferred that the Piks a people as all the ancients shew quite different from the old Scots or Irish and from the old Britons or Welsh as possessing North Britain could only originate from a country near to North Britain as Norway is And when reason and ancient authorities thus coalesce they constitute that highest degree of historical truth which even approaches to mathematical demonstration In Scandinavia therefore that large peninsular track including Norway Sweden and a part of Denmark we are to look for the Piks and while we find a people of the same name in the south of Norway the part next to Scotland the evidence becomes as complete as human history can afford +--- 14898455 +>>14897322 +>>14898437 +The Irish are buck broken for having the culture and language of their Celtic masters, but the English are actual cuckolds who got their indigenous L21 lineages extinct and replaced by Germano-Celtic ones. +--- 14898464 +>>14898455 +>Germano-Celtic +R1b-u106 is Bell beaker/dagger period scandinavian. +English are 40% scandinavian, 20% bell beaker 40% gaulish according to the anglosaxon paper +--- 14898481 +>>14892131 (OP) +The Greeks. Culturally, influentially, just in every way imaginable. +--- 14898485 +>>14898464 +English aren't even 20% Scandinavian or Gaulish. They're descended from indigenous British Isles populations like the rest of the British isles. They're identical to the Welsh except for 2% Norwegian and of course lacking their original L21 after the hard rape they got from Romans, France, Germany and Norway. +--- 14898497 +>>14898485 +>>14898485 +>English aren't even 20% Scandinavian or Gaulish. They're descended from indigenous British Isles populations like the rest of the British isles +Lol no they arent. Red is scandinavian/dutch +Green is french iron age/gaul +If anything english being 40% Gaul autosomaly but less than 13% r1b-u152/df27 of the french subclades is gauls getting cucked + +Romans left 0 genetic inpact in britain +Sorry +--- 14898507 +>>14898497 +This is referring to U106 French rape of L21 English women. Actual Celts have 0% French ancestry according to that. +--- 14898532 +>>14893418 +Study? +--- 14898534 +>>14898497 +Study? +--- 14898539 +>>14898507 +>U106 French +French are not u106. U106 is a north sea germanic subclade found in dutch, Flemish, danes and norwegians. If anything again. It suggest r1b-u152 french gauls handed their women to U106 Men.. +British are autosomally less or at best 30% beaker +--- 14898546 +>>14898539 +Gaulish samples had U152, U106, and DF27. Modern French have U106 and they're the ones who raped the L21 out of England. +--- 14898557 +>>14898546 +Nope. Not a single r1b-u106 was found west of the rhine (except on britain) before the iron age crossing of the rhine + +R1b-u106 represents less than 10% of modern french ydna +Sorry. It means french gaulish women were handed to u106 men from england. +--- 14898574 +>>14898557 +Nope. Not a single r1b-u106 was found west of the rhine (except in France) before the iron age crossing of the rhine. + +Are you saying the Gaulish(France_IA) migration occurred after the Anglo-Saxons arrived? +--- 14898578 +>>14898539 +The French are Germanic, the Gaul LARP is a post WW2 thing. +--- 14898583 +>>14898574 +r1b-u106 was never found in france before the crossing of the rhine :((( +--- 14898594 +>>14898583 +R1b-u106 was never found in Britain before the crossing of the rhine :((( + +It was first brought by French and Germans, unless you're saying the Gaulish migration occurred after the German Anglo-Saxons arrived? +--- 14898658 +>>14898594 +nope, R1b-u106 is from bell beakers from the netherlands and scandinavian CWC :(((, it means is a beaker haplo so it can be carried by british beakers :( +--- 14899343 +>>14898658 +>it means is a beaker haplo +Yes that's why Celts had it and 0 British samples had it prior to Celts conquering the British Isles. +--- 14899576 +>>14898578 +French are mostly EEF like meds and unlike germanics. +--- 14899596 +>>14899576 +Nah, they have the same amount of EEF as Germans. + +The Frankish Empire people's are all the same +--- 14900036 +>>14899343 +>conquering +All Celtic admixture in the British isles or rather continental admixture prior to the Anglo-Saxons is maternal. +Even after the Anglo Saxons R1b L21 JOMON dominates the male lines in the British isles. +Not only did early Anglo Saxons outnumber Britons, they completely jobbed to them. +The Welsh themselves are 50% Anglo-Saxon and 95% L21, a result of taking too many women from the "English". +--- 14900041 +>>14900036 +cope +--- 14900050 +>>14900036 +Welsh are not even 20% anglosaxon >>1489849 only eastern Welsh. Who are anglosaxon rapebabies effectively +--- 14900120 +>>14892131 (OP) +:'( +--- 14900151 +>>14899596 +No, germans are mostly yamnaya while french are mostly eef +--- 14900183 +>>14900151 +I'm gonna delete that fucking website if you retards keep misusing it. + +The _ percentage is utterly meaningless. Your farher is only 50% related to you, doesn't mean you're another ethnicity. +--- 14900198 +>>14900183 +>Your farher is only 50% related to you, doesn't mean you're another ethnicity. +Yes it does. + +Also, ethnicity = culture, race = genes +--- 14900200 +>>14893301 +>conquer shitholes and deserts +>make them into "proper" nations +>change your mind, give them independence and then leave +wtf britain +--- 14900203 +>>14900151 +French have 7% more EEF thaan germans +But 10% more yamnaya than the northernmost meds/africans +--- 14900212 +>>14900120 +Vgh…land once dogger bank to Alaska +--- 14900253 +>>14900041 +>>14900050 +no, Welsh have 45-50% non-British DNA which comes from Continentals, it first appeared in the Iron Age during the migration era and increased over time as contact with the Saxons went on, however Welsh Y DNA has remained heavily R1b L21. + +robust heavy bearded powerfully built muscular broad shouldered Silurae spread their WHG (hyper autochthonous) derived curly hair to those "fair" english "roses" while saxon 'men' watched in horror as the Sons of Taranis dominated and subjugated that semi-aquatic continental fauna. +--- 14900269 +>>14900198 +ethnicity is ancestry, you have no idea what ethnicity is. +>no its culture +What identity is, is a question of popular opinion, and you are not inline with the popular opinion. +--- 14900303 +>>14900253 +you will never be celtic +keep making up deranged sexual fantasies though +--- 14900443 +>>14900253 +>British +>Starts fantsizing about black skinned, curly haired, muscular men out of blue + +Never change +--- 14900623 +>>14900303 +I am Celtic Jomon. +>>14900443 +>black skinned +who? Saxon Oranges who turn swarthy in the sun? +>curly haired +curly, not kinky, exclusively Europeans have curly hair which retains its lush ringlets, whereas other races have kinky negro hair even when their hair is wavy its stringy. +>muscular men +average celt +--- 14901365 +>>14900623 +The minds of everyone in this thread are very swarthy. +--- 14901655 +>>14900623 +Mental illness +You will never be celtic +--- 14901715 +>>14901655 +Who are the Celts then? +--- 14901753 +>>14901715 +they never existed +--- 14901820 +>>14901753 +Isn't mental illness and i say that in jest anon. + +g gauls are what we'd consider celts. +--- 14901886 +>>14892571 +What could have been... +--- 14902361 +>>14900203 +>10% more yamnaya +3% in south france +--- 14902675 +>>14892131 (OP) +India +--- 14902687 +>>14902361 +Who cares about those. Is like picking brittany to prove something +--- 14903656 +>>14901820 +they never existed +--- 14904007 +>>14903656 +National haplo grouping +>no "celtic" grouping + +This sounds like butthurt Anglo rapprochement . Just because there isn't a "Celtic" grouping doesn't mean the Britons scotts irish cormwals dutch don't share genetic affinity. + +also can you link the study pretty pwz +--- 14904019 +>>14892131 (OP) + +> Name a bigger fall from grace. + +Not even a fucking contest. +--- 14904024 +>>14904007 +>dutch +wat? dutch are germanics +--- 14904192 +>>14904024 + +look >>14903656 + +maybe you are conflating Dutch with the Flemish, Who clearly never existed. +--- 14904488 +>>14892131 (OP) +>Name a bigger fall from grace. + +Scythian steppe dominance diff --git a/his/14893670.txt b/his/14893670.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2f514995415163d6d2e581bffd2efcfcc6b9541c --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14893670.txt @@ -0,0 +1,434 @@ +----- +--- 14893670 +Why is Orthdoxy on the rise? +--- 14893687 +Because white kids in the western world with no identity have no cultural precedence for it so they project and idolize the fuck out of it and swallow all of it's memes whole. +--- 14893700 +>>14893670 (OP) +American “men,” especially millennials and gen xers, are manchildren whose identity is tied into “things” whether they be funkopops or cars. + +In this case, these manchildren treat Orthodox Christianity as an exotic “thing” that they measure their devotion to by their growing collection of books and icons. Icons are more or less the same as funkopops to them. Most likely to do not go to church regularly, if at all, and most spend more time debating online or being “content creators” than actually spending time devoting themselves to God. +--- 14893710 +tradcaths disillusioned with catholicism + LARPers that like byzantines because they featured in their map-colouring games = western orthodogs +--- 14893743 +>>14893670 (OP) +Where are the stats? +--- 14893769 +The lamp/light and presence of God resides in One Church like God in the 2nd Temple. + +It all goes back to the Uncreated Light, God’s presence and physicality need to be present in One Body. + +Catholic Scholasticism combined their beliefs with Platonism and other philosophies/man made doctrines. Protestantism is Nestorianism as it denies the physicality of Faith. Both lead straight to atheism/secularism, but it isn’t a “Western” problem +--- 14893778 +>>14893700 +>In this case, these manchildren treat Orthodox Christianity as an exotic “thing” that they measure their devotion to by their growing collection of books and icons. +Perfect encapsulation. +--- 14893789 +Average orthodog convert in the comments of that vid. +--- 14893796 +This is now an orthodog bashing thread +--- 14893812 +Catholics who are disillusioned with modern Catholicism, Baptists who want the actual, original Christianity (I know there are Baptist converts in Mount Athos) +--- 14893993 +>>14893796 +>Toll House Chocolate Chip Cookie Sandwich + +? +--- 14894003 +>>14893670 (OP) + +Its not. Russia has like a 7% church attendance rate, and only ones who go to church are grannies. they also have an ungodly abortion rate. Not to mention, Orthodox countries are all really corrupt. +--- 14894293 +Why are all the OrthoLARPer converts such huge Russaboos and Zfags? Is it because of the history and infkuence of the OCA and ROCOR? It's weird how they never convert to Greek or Serbian Orthodox, it's always Russian. +--- 14894312 +>>14894293 +They're attracted to power or at least the perception of it. The Kremlin convinced them that it's a counterweight to the Western liberal elites they don't like, so they hope that by converting to Russian Orthodoxy, they can borrow some of the Kremlin's power, or at least perceived power. + +They're the equivalent of Koreans converting to American Protestant sects in the 1920s, or black Americans in the 1960s joining Islam. +--- 14894334 +>>14894293 +I’m just a slavophile and I’ve always been. I don’t think that influenced my religious life, only my gun purchases +But I go to a Greek Orthodox Church because it’s what’s closest to me and I really like both of the priests there. +--- 14894351 +>>14893993 +>he doesn't know about the toll-houses +Someone's not going to trad heaven + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_toll_house +https://orthodoxwiki.org/Aerial_Toll-Houses +--- 14894353 +>>14893670 (OP) +Idk bruh but some American Orthos are the most retarded people I've ever talked to... it seems many join it just to be "counter" culture even religiously. +t. Slavic Ortho +--- 14894355 +>>14894351 +Toll houses aren’t real and only schizos think they are +--- 14894360 +>>14894353 +You’re definitely right +t. American ortho convert +--- 14894366 +>>14893670 (OP) +Lots of young men in America struggle to accept their homosexual desires. They get horny thinking about big cocks and jerk off thinking about fucking a twink's tight hole. + +It scares them, so they seek refuge, with other repressed homosexuals, amongst the incense and chants. +--- 14894367 +>>14894366 +Speaking from experience? +--- 14894543 +>>14893670 (OP) +new age/buddhism for chuds +--- 14894547 +>>14894543 +Yep +--- 14894569 +>>14893670 (OP) +see +>>14893687 +>>14893700 +>>14894543 +--- 14894607 +It has ancient drip and hasn't neglected it in an attempt to appeal to the masses the way the Papists did, and its dysfunctions are opaque to Americans. +A lot of the EO Church's self-narrative (for instance the whole "spiritual against Roman rationalism") was basically invented in the 19th century to try to distinguish itself from RC. +--- 14894622 +>>14893670 (OP) +Amerimutts are retarded protestants who hate the Catholic church. Since American christians realize how bogus protestant bullshit is, they seek to convert. But since their amerimutt DNA is programmed to hate catholics, they default to the next best thing, which is orthodoxy. +--- 14894633 +>>14894607 +--- 14894640 +>>14893687 +>>14893700 +>>14893710 +>>14893778 +>>14893796 +>>14894293 +>>14894312 +>>14894366 +>>14894543 +>>14894622 +>>14894633 +why so negative, jeez louise +--- 14894678 +>>14894633 +There is WR Orthodoxy. +--- 14894692 +>>14893670 (OP) +Because it is the truth. +--- 14894720 +>>14894692 +>>14894640 +>>14894640 +--- 14894724 +All these "orthodogs" who were former baptists or grew up in evangelical households should read this book before they continue spewing up the lies told to them by their priests. +--- 14894735 +>>14893670 (OP) +Catholicism straying away from Christianity and towards the western bs +--- 14894793 +>>14893670 (OP) +The faith is an excellent source of meaning in this meaningless world. We are born into an existential void, and we seek comfort in divine authority to escape this misery. +--- 14894801 +>why is orthodoxy on the rise +do you actually have anything to back that up with beyond a clickbait thumbnail +--- 14894919 +Trad LARPERS and retard evangelicals enamored by a foreign culture and ritual trappings. Also contrarianism notched up to eleven. It's like being a special snowflake but also "based." Orthodox are like 1% of US Christians iirc. + +Got nothing against the Orthodox but some of these converts have the most retarded reasoning behind their decision. + +Also may not be entirely true: +https://northamanglican.com/there-is-no-traditionalist-liturgical-revival-happening-yet/ +--- 14894925 +>>14894724 +Based. +--- 14895101 +Evangelicals here have nothing to offer but rock concerts with zoomers hopping around, Kanye who promotes some cool acceptable form of anti-semitiism and business style church conferences where they talk about efficacies of sola scriptura, rinse and repeat the same set of topic for the last 70 odd years. + +Give me one thing evangelicalism does that is unique to them that triumphs over orthodoxy, I am waiting +--- 14895105 +>>14895101 +also I'm not even orthodox because I think generally real orthodox are repulsed by 4chan and meme culture +I'm a post-christian/post-evangelical if anything +--- 14895109 +>>14893687 +Just say you hate white people next time. +--- 14895110 +>>14893812 +The guys at Mount Athos never heard the phrase "be fruitful and multiply". +--- 14895115 +>>14894293 +I like Russians but I converted to Protestantism from Roman Catholicism. +--- 14895122 +>>14894622 +Wrong. +--- 14895149 +Wait till converts find what the entire culture and family surrounding Orthodoxy really means. +--- 14895169 +>>14895101 +Evangelicals and reformed folks in general tend to produce really good sermons since they don't give a fuck about sacraments. The whole personal relationship with God thing is cool too. + +t. used to be evangelical +--- 14895521 +>>14893670 (OP) +Anyone who converts to Orthodoxy for political reasons and not spiritual reasons is a Chud, plain and simple. +--- 14895553 +>>14894633 +I just don’t like the legalism of Catholicism or the papacy +Also purgatory is dumb +--- 14895600 +>>14893670 (OP) +I fills a unique niche in the american christian ecosystem of having a big and old intellectual tradition while not being catholicism. Also its the second biggest single christian church so it makes sense it would eventually find its way into being an established player especially as old protestantism falls on its face and catholicism isnt being its old reactionary self +As well protestantism doesnt know how to deal with it very well due to never having had to argue with it (being relegated to being a backwater religion in europe does that) and western catholics lack experiance with it +--- 14895613 +>>14895521 +Most non-immigrant Orthodox in the US are negroes or Alaskan Injuns. +--- 14895614 +>>14893670 (OP) +>OMG ORTHODOX ROSE FROM .001% to .001001% +Orthox countries are the most atheist in the world. The religion won't even exist in 100 years. +--- 14895619 +>>14895613 +This is literally not true. You will find more Catholic blacks than orthos +--- 14895626 +>>14895600 +>Orthodox has a big and old intellectual tradition in the USA +Orthodox has 100,000 practicing followers in the USA, time for you to go shill somewhere else. +--- 14895638 +>>14895614 +2 more weeks and Christianity disappears forever +--- 14895652 +>>14895619 +Correct, because Orthodoxy is an incredibly niche religion that only has a following in the US among Eastern European immigrants, negroes, and Alaskan Injuns. There's more Wiccans in the US than there are Orthodox who aren't, as mentioned, immigrants. +--- 14895656 +>>14895638 +Ivan, Orthodox isn't Christian, its not even a religion, the head of your 'church' is a literal communist (atheist). +--- 14895821 +>>14895626 +>I CANT READ!!!1! +As expected from /his/tard +--- 14896316 +>>14894919 +arent "trad larpers" basically just people who respect the actual christian teachings and not modern day sin worship that is taught in order to "put butts in seats" as they say and appeal to modern sensibilities? +--- 14896363 +>>14893687 +There’s nothing wrong with being a theist and simultaneously not humoring organized religion at the same time. +--- 14896371 +>>14895638 +>orthodogs +>christian +--- 14896393 +>>14894003 +>Russia has like a 7% church attendance rate, and only ones who go to church are grannies +I'm generalizing a bit, but Russians seem much more "anarchistic" in reality, or nihilistic might be a better way of putting it, like believing in nothing and not trusting anybody outside people they either know really well or their family members. They're really not these trad people, like at all, but the other side of that coin of indifference is not caring about what other people believe or basically respecting it, which makes disrespecting the Orthodox Church a politically incorrect thing (even if they don't go to church), and the Orthodox Church also doesn't seem particularly evangelistic about what they do. They're not exactly knocking on my door trying to convert me. + +https://youtu.be/DpSTtB71M_8 [Embed] + +>>14895105 +>I think generally real orthodox are repulsed by 4chan and meme culture +Most institutions that 4chan meme culture tries to move into are repulsed by it. It's one thing to do it on the internet, imagine talking to people like that in real life, especially if it's a grown-ass man saying "based" to you. It's disgusting or, at the very least, cringeworthy. +--- 14896432 +>>14893710 +>tradcaths disillusioned with catholicism +Is the Pope gonna excommunicate the channers? + +https://youtu.be/NRt2cKvJLlE?t=92 [Embed] +--- 14896455 +>>14893670 (OP) +>Stopped in to a church +>I passed along the way +>Well, I got down on my knees +>And I pretend to pray +>You know the preacher liked the cold +>He knows I'm gonna stay +>California dreamin' +>On such a winter's day. +--- 14896531 +Unironically true +--- 14896540 +>>14895638 +Continuously between 1958 and 2013 the church has lost more members than it has gained +--- 14896554 +>>14893670 (OP) +Is it really? +--- 14896604 +>>14896316 +Most trad larpers don't actually believe in God. They just follow it because they think it will help them get laid. +--- 14896639 +>>14893789 +I discovered it though memes too. Doesn't mean it's a meme religion though +--- 14896644 +>>14893796 +Literally me. +But I see nothing wrong with this. +--- 14896660 +>>14896639 +Lmao. The absolute state. +--- 14896751 +>>14894622 +This. +American Protestantism has done more damage to Christianity in the past century than every Muslim faction in the world managed to accomplish in over a millennium. +--- 14896789 +>>14896751 +>Pope worship is Christianity +--- 14897345 +>>14896789 +--- 14897360 +>>14896644 +You realize God and Hell are real right? You shouldn't decide what to believe based on online memes, it's actually a serious matter. And you certainly shouldn't choose a religion based on which is politically more epicly based. +--- 14897401 +>>14897360 +>And you certainly shouldn't choose a religion based on which is politically more epicly based. +You kinda should though. +--- 14897468 +>>14897360 +Nobody decided to believe because of memes dumbass. It's the memes that lead you to read about the history, theology and do actual research +--- 14897549 +>>14894724 +Read it, it all boils down to points that any former Baptist (like myself) should have dealt with before they seriously considered conversion. +>The EO worship icons! +Icons are windows into heaven, they are a representation of the people God has worked marvelous things through in order to show us His glory. This is a running theme when talking to people about Orthodoxy. Respect/veneration does not equal worship, +>inb4 Icoooner +I have two, they were both gifts and I’m probably going to give one to a friend. +>They worship Mary! +I had this idea the first time I was invited to a liturgy. It seemed like they brought up Mary a lot. That’s just because in most Protestant churches Mary is brought up maybe twice a year, once around Christmas and once around Mother’s Day. Of course, being used to that, hearing about Mary twice in an hour is a huge increase, but it makes up maybe 1% of the service. Again, I have to bring up that respect doesn’t equal worship. Of course God is the only one that is worthy of worship, but that doesn’t mean you can’t have reverance for anybody else in the Bible. +>Orthodox churches can become cultural enclaves! +He’s right, it’s a problem that needs correction, but to pretend that’s it more of a problem in Orthodoxy than Protestantism is laughable. I’ve been a member of a Greek Orthodox church for several years. I don’t have a drop of Greek blood and I can’t speak a word of the language beyond “Christos anesti!”, but that’s never been a problem and I’m perfectly welcome there. The last Baptist church I went to was the complete opposite. I went to a Fundamental Baptist Church because I was sick of the liberal crap the church my family went to was pushing. In the year I was there I saw two couples and another guy like me come and go because if you weren’t in one of the families that had been going there for 20 years you weren’t worth speaking to. +--- 14897563 +>>14897549 +God bless you, brother, from a cradle Greek Orthodox in North America. +--- 14897566 +>>14893670 (OP) +it's the last stage of sedevacantism +--- 14897654 +>>14893687 +It's basically this generation's "born again" nonsense. + +Bunch of fucking aimless, drifters looking for someone to give them direction and purpose. +--- 14897660 +>>14894293 +Because there's a giant psyop campaign over the internet coming out of Russia to make it seem like a great place doing great things. +--- 14897668 +>>14895101 +>Give me one thing evangelicalism does that is unique to them +Their entire mantra is "feels not reals". +--- 14897827 +>>14893670 (OP) +My thoughts are that Catholicism has not managed to handle well the modern age post-Vatican II. In trying to appeal to the world and the current age, it's like their tradition/faith demoted itself and instead of being a rock (as Catholics constantly love to claim thanks to their Pope) always holding against the currents of the ages, they became a "hip" and "inclusive" pebble that was taken over. + +The culmination is their current borderline heretical Pope trying to avert a new schism regarding the wokist German Catholic bishops. If they lose this battle as well, I foresee an even bigger exodus from everywhere but the most 3rd world countries. + +Eastern Orthodoxy with some of the issues that it faces as well, like the one with Russia, is a tradition/faith a lot more steeped on the mystical and traditional. While the Pope for example was paying respect to religious idols from all around the world, most of the Orthodox wanted nothing to do with other denominations to the point of hostility (now I may not agree with this but it gives you the idea) and try to hold strong to their faith at all costs. + +This superior stability of the EOC (despite being a pretty decentralized church compared to the Catholic one) can greatly appeal to lost to pieces protestants or disillusioned Catholics. +--- 14899123 +>>14893670 (OP) +It's seen as a alternative to the globohomo infiltrated western churches +--- 14899248 +reminder all orthodox trads are now reduced to simping for a chinese communist leader to beg him to save russia +--- 14899276 +>>14893687 +whenever a leftie mentions white people its always with contempt +--- 14899316 +>>14894720 +Here's your "voice of god", bro +https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2018/may/21/the-pope-says-god-made-gay-people-just-as-we-should-be-heres-why-his-comments-matter +--- 14899536 +>>14893687 +>defending the gay Pope and Tranny protestants +Lmao +--- 14899581 +>>14899276 +stop acting contemptible and people will stop making fun of you for chasing meme religions that you only join to own the libs +--- 14899598 +>>14893670 (OP) +for every 1 American who converted to Orthodox Christianity, there are 100 dead believers in Ukraine. +--- 14899877 +Is Ubi Petrus actually considered good apologetics against Catholicism? Orthobros rave about him but I watched this video and it was one of the most pretentious, obfuscating things I have ever seen in my life. 80% of it is just reading long quotes of Church Fathers extremely slowly and then saying it furthers his point even if it is completely unrelated. And then he does the gay moving-the-goalposts thing where he says Orthodoxy doesn't have any official teaching on this to avoid taking any vulnerable position. +And he supports Saint Augustine's arguments the entire video only to at the end randomly bring in Saint Basil to BTFO Augustine with a single quote lol to show the superiority of Eastern Christianity +like am I too stupid to see the quality of the arguments? +https://youtu.be/fGO8sXtlHd4 [Embed] +--- 14899945 +Has anyone else noticed one thing the Orthodox and Muslims have in common is that they never cite sources or statistics for their claims? +--- 14900815 +>>14893812 +>>14894724 +>>14894622 +Yeah it's true. I know this Orthodox guy at my work who told me his entire Orthodox parish is made of Evangelical converts (including himself) +Something has to be done about the Protestant mentality, it just ruins wherever it spreads in Christianity. Prot converts always bring their brain-dead, religious puritanism into the mix. This doesn't just happen to Orthodox; on the Traditional Catholic side you have epic converts from Protestantism like Taylor Marshall encouraging everyone to sperg out +--- 14900826 +>>14893670 (OP) +I’d sooner expect Americans to start sacrificing Big Macs to Zeus than for orthodoxy to make up even 10% of the population +--- 14901476 +>>14899581 +if people talked about minorities the way you talk about whites youd shit your pants in rage, faggot +--- 14901986 +>>14894622 +Tbh this, I know I can't sell people I know on Catholicism, so I tell them to at least check out Eastern Orthodox since Catholicism has recognized it since the 90s +--- 14901994 +>>14901476 +the image didn't even mention anything about race yet you're already shitting yours about it you sensitive bitch +--- 14902026 +>>14895101 +>Give me one thing evangelicalism does that is unique to them that triumphs over orthodoxy, I am waiting +They seem to be way better at missionary work +>>14894622 +>Amerimutts are retarded protestants who hate the Catholic church +I don't think that's actually common, it's just that Francis is causing a lot of disillusionment +--- 14902068 +>>14896393 +>They're really not these trad people, like at all, but the other side of that coin of indifference is not caring about what other people believe or basically respecting it +Not exactly. +--- 14902188 +>>14900815 +What spergy thing has Taylor Marshall done? +--- 14902359 +Converts should just watch Orthodox Ethos with Father Peter Heers so you can develop the proper mentality and get rid of the ridiculous evangelical mindset +--- 14902661 +>>14893670 (OP) +Jews +--- 14902718 +>>14894720 +Someone post the Orthodox version that uses actual theological arguments instead of land-grabbing EU4 autism +--- 14902727 +It's hilarious how Orthodoxy makes evangelicucks, tradcaths, Jews and fedoracucks seethe ITT +--- 14902868 +>>14900815 +> Prot converts always bring their brain-dead, religious puritanism into the mix. +I couldn’t agree more and I’m exactly that. I’m actually somewhat sympathetic to Californian refugees now because it’s the same mindset. Even though I know good and well protestantism is awful and I’ve seen how its’ principles destroy a church I still catch myself thinking every once in a while, “Would it really be so bad if Orthodoxy did X ?”. I’m extremely careful about never voicing these thoughts, but I know there are plenty of others who aren’t. +--- 14903197 +>>14902727 +>Be unpopular contrarian losers +>jokes on you, we like being unpopular contrarian losers + +You'll lose your convert zeal and find something else to convert too soon enough +--- 14903217 +>>14903197 +I'm Greek, faggot. It's not Orthodoxy's fault proteniggers made a mockery out of Christianity and indirectly birthed fedora atheism or how Catholics shit the bed with Papal infallibility. Orthodoxy is older than any of your meme denominations, so don't be surprised when believers flock to it. +--- 14903226 +>>14903217 +>I'm Greek, +I'm so sorry. It must suck to have such an illustrious history and be rendered so low in the modern age that your only friends are retarded zoomers joining your faith out of sheer contrarianism instead of out of any sense of sincere religious revelation. Don't worry, they'll move on soon enough and you can go back to being just another irrelevant religious minority +--- 14903230 +>>14903217 +Palamism is a heresy. Barlaam had to convert to Catholicism because of such blasphemous smut. +--- 14903283 +>>14893687 +>>14893700 +>>14893710 +>>14893796 +Kikes absolutely seething in this thread. Dont worry, we will try to make 110 as painless and swift as possible +--- 14904003 +>protestant Americans turning Orthodox Christian +>Latin Americans turning protestant Christian + +So who's turning Catholic and where? +--- 14904016 +>>14904003 +>So who's turning Catholic and where? +afriKANGZ +--- 14904133 +>>14904003 +>>14904016 +This, I'll probably go down with the Catholic ship, but that is where I see things trending. I'll keep encouraging American Protestants to go into Eastern Orthodoxy because that at least makes ecumenicalism more viable +--- 14904315 +>>14904133 +>American Protestants to go into Eastern Orthodoxy +All they'll do is subvert it from within diff --git a/his/14893746.txt b/his/14893746.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a224ee913039d9ad641a0cba67701fb053e58019 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14893746.txt @@ -0,0 +1,519 @@ +----- +--- 14893746 +what are some moments in history that sounds like bullshit but they totally happened +--- 14893771 +>>14893746 (OP) +Everything involving Joan of arc +--- 14893776 +Does the Leo Frank case pretty much disprove the myth that lynchings had anything to do with race? They trusted the black guy even though they already had an excuse to lynch him on sight +--- 14893781 +>>14893746 (OP) +Cleopatra's entire life +--- 14893782 +>>14893746 (OP) +Taiping Rebellion. +--- 14893783 +>>14893776 +No it doesn't +Leo Frank was also an "outsider" and he was too obviously guilty to blame some black guy for it and move on +--- 14893787 +>>14893746 (OP) +The entire history of China +--- 14893791 +>>14893776 +>Does the Leo Frank case pretty much disprove the myth that lynchings had anything to do with race? +No???? are you stupid or something lel +--- 14893805 +>>14893783 +>Leo Frank was also an "outsider" +Jews were one of the first groups to be emancipated in America since they basically copied the French Revolution who gave them equal rights. +To them Frank was just another white guy +--- 14893814 +>>14893746 (OP) +>Germans + Allies teaming up in a castle +>Americans supporting a socialist aligned government against Christian peasants +>that British soldier who stormed battlefields with a bagpipe, longsword, and longbow +>two Latin American countries fighting an unrelated war at the same time as WWII +>the serb who pushed a bottle up his ass too far and collapsed Yugoslavia as well as his colon +>General Butt Naked +those are my favorite +--- 14893816 +>>14893746 (OP) +Manson was official member of scientology +--- 14893818 +>>14893783 +>>14893791 +Lynching was extrajudicial killings for a crime. It has literally nothing to do with race and everything to do with settler Wild West life where a police force wasn’t really around. This meant the townsfolk acted as their own police force and would gather up in posses to arrest criminals and deal out justice. + +If some guy is known as a horse there, they would just go arrest and hang him. Lynching had become synonymous with specifically hanging black people, but that isn’t what it was. Most victims of lynching were overwhelmingly white simply because the majority of the country was white, and a lot of times blacks participated in the lynching. A real outlier of this were cases like Teal where a boy was killed for a minor offense, even in cases of whites killing blacks, it was almost always because the black person was either suspected of or even found guilty in a court of law of raping and/or murdering someone. + +The largest mass lynching in America was in New Orleans and against Italian immigrants. This was the first case against the mafia in America and the men were all suspected being part of this scary criminal secret society, so both whites AND blacks hanged them in rage. +--- 14893821 +>>14893818 +nigger I'm not reading any of that shit kek +you literally are arguing that lynching had nothing to do with race, that's enough for me to know +--- 14893826 +>>14893821 +trannypol public school educated band dork faggot +--- 14893828 +The Manhattan Project sounds like a shitty arc in a shonen anime +--- 14893833 +>>14893800 +Just another proof that coffee makes you a psychopathic maniac, coffee should be outlawed +--- 14893840 +>>14893833 +another proof they all were jewish spies +--- 14893852 +Jim Morrisons dad started the Vietnam War +--- 14893862 +>>14893843 +What is this refrencing? Something during the winter war I assume? +--- 14893868 +Helena took Radcliffe virginity while filming 8 +--- 14893874 +>>14893862 +Aimo Koivunen +--- 14893882 +>>14893857 +Anon, have you ever heard of Chaos Theory? The same can be said for literally any major event in human history. You can make the argument that the filming of "Two Girls, One Cup" directly lead to the Russian Invasion of Ukraine. +--- 14893889 +>>14893814 +Context for these? +--- 14893893 +>>14893882 +>have you ever heard of Chaos Theory? +No, but I do know about chaos control...UOHHAAAHHHHHH!!! *stops time* +--- 14893907 +>>14893776 +>Does the Leo Frank case pretty much disprove the myth that lynchings had anything to do with race? +No, it would be just anecdotal evidence. +Rather, the fact that lynching happened all through thr 19th century in america and involved literally every ethnicity including anglos proves that lynching wasn't a racial phenom. +You can still make an argument that nogs were scapegoated (I mean yeah, 13/50 today, but the lynching proportions are something like 2/75), but the act of lynching was just extrajudicial punishment like it happened and still happens in every country at every point in time and definitely not something made up for them specifically. +--- 14893908 +>>14893746 (OP) +>what are some moments in history that sounds like bullshit but they totally happened + + +Uncle Ted was right +--- 14893927 +>>14893889 +>no idea +>US support of the mexican socialist regime during the Cristero War +>Jack Churchill +>Peru-Ecuador War +>Martinovic incident +>some crazy african warlord whose batallion dressed as a woman and sacrificed children. He is now a christian pastor +--- 14893936 +>>14893805 +He was a new yorker +--- 14893938 +>>14893746 (OP) +Second Pacific squadron. +--- 14893948 +Jesus existed +--- 14893962 +>>14893948 +yeah but he wasn't god +--- 14893972 +>>14893962 +>yeah but he wasn't god + +source ? +--- 14893980 +>>14893972 +God told me in a vision. +--- 14893983 +>>14893800 +Fun fact: the three national leaders involved most directly in WW1 were all first cousins. Edward, Nicholas and Wilhelm were all Queen Victoria’s grandkids. Makes sense when I think of my family, and yet somehow monarchists will defend this +--- 14893990 +>>14893980 +sure mohammed +--- 14893991 +>>14893818 +>Most victims of lynching were overwhelmingly white +Source? Because looking it up casually, 72% of the victims were black. +--- 14894018 +>>14893746 (OP) +>Russo-German schizophrenic barges into Mongolia +>tries to take the capital occupied by Chinese +>fails miserably +>spreads rumours that the end is near +>rides into the city alone, beats Chinese soldier for sleeping on duty +>kidnaps Bogd-khan from prison +>convinces everyone he is immortal +>tries to take the city second time, with even less soldiers +>Chinese flee in horror, despite outnumbering attackers 1 to 10 and having actual weapons +>marries Chinese princess +>leaves to suicide by USSR +--- 14894460 +>>14893746 (OP) +The Great Chicago Fire + +The War of the Three Kingdoms + +The Burning of the Library of Alexandria + +The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest + +The Salem Witch Trials +--- 14894467 +>>14893889 +>>14893927 +1st is battle for castle itter +german soldier rebelled at the end of the war to beat ss +--- 14894493 +a portuguese soldier once ran out of bulletts in a battle agaisnt the ottomans and removed and shot his own tooth + +another did a night raid on a ottoman camp during nighttime and kidnapped a soldier, realized much later that he had left his borrowed helmet at enemy camp, returned during daytime, in full view of the enemy, picked up the helmet and then ran for dear life, at which point the ottomans realising he wasnt surrendering, started chasing for him to climb the city walls while his mates pissed themselves laughing +--- 14894866 +>>14893746 (OP) +The holocaust +--- 14894875 +>>14894866 +>had to look up this +what the fuck germanbros, why they don't teach this at school +they should make movies or something +--- 14894892 +>>14893746 (OP) +--- 14894913 +>>14894892 +This isn't even that weird. Happens with popular musicians all the time +--- 14894927 +>>14893805 +This. I mean we're talking about a time when half of whites thought they were descendants of Israel and the other half was LARPing as them. +--- 14894990 +>>14893783 +If Leo were a Christian with no other variable of that case changed, the outcome would have remained the same despite what Jewish NGO's will tell you. Why are people still defending this guy lel +--- 14895033 +>>14893800 +WHAT THE FUCK WAS FREUD SPLIPPING INTO THE COFFEE +--- 14895051 +>>14893746 (OP) +CIA pretending to be god to scare filipino peasants. +--- 14895059 +>that italian aristocrat and former failed assassin of Napoleon III who fought at the battle of little big horn +--- 14895064 +>>14893983 +>Edward +first of all it was George V at the time +second of all the UK/George V was way, way less important to the start of WW1 than Franz Josef I +--- 14895074 +>>14894018 +>severely mentally ill and incompetent at everything +>did absolutely nothing to fight the commies +>worshipped by reddit history enthusiast retards because he was in a video game mod +--- 14895099 +>>14893746 (OP) +I have to buy myself a kufi. +--- 14895123 +>>14893776 + +No. The Klan just hated Jews more. +--- 14895130 +>>14895123 +>"white southerners hated jews more than blacks" +Yeah, nice try Chaim +--- 14895133 +>>14895099 +Buy a pakol instead, they're the perfect hybrid of a beret and a kufi. As long as you aren't the whitest person in the universe you can pull it off with a sweater +--- 14895167 +>>14894990 + +The circumstantial and forensic evidence overwhelmingly point to Jim Conley. It's amazing he got away with pinning the murder on Frank. So much so that he didn't even plan it initially. He tried to blame it on another black guy in the murder notes he left behind, a night watchman named Newt Lee, who was so obviously not the murderer that he was cleared almost instantly. +--- 14895203 +>>14895123 +Basically everybody was doing better than the "freedmen". Jews, Catholics, American Indians, French quadroons, Caribbeans/Hispanics/Latinos, even a genuine African from Africa would have less to fear from the Klan than a genuine American negro. +--- 14895211 +>>14893746 (OP) +>woman +Wasn't she like 8 or 9 or something +--- 14895625 +>>14895211 +13 +--- 14895673 +>>14893746 (OP) +Pvt Kikujiro Shimura going to the toilet, getting lost and starting WW2 as a consequence. +--- 14895682 +>>14893852 +>Jim Morrisons dad started the Vietnam War +>Morrison was commander of United States naval forces during the Gulf of Tonkin Incident of August 1964, which sparked an escalation of American involvement in the Vietnam War. He was the father of Jim Morrison, the lead singer of the rock band The Doors, who died on July 3, 1971. Rome, Georgia, U.S. +--- 14895865 +>>14893746 (OP) +--- 14895889 +George Lincoln Rockwell’s Dad being a vaudeville comedian and friends with many popular comics of the day, including Groucho Marx, Jack Benny, George Burns, and Fred Allen. (All of whom attended Rockwell’s Christening.) +--- 14896879 +I'm in NYC right now and I'm gonna try to get standing room tickets for this show in like 12 hours. I wonder how they're gonna address the fact that the murderer was black. +--- 14896885 +>>14895123 +that's pretty based +--- 14896902 +>>14895203 +Why did I read "genuine african" normally but "genuine american negro" as "gen-yoo-aign" +--- 14896972 +>>14893746 (OP) + +in yalta during a discussion stalin and fdr talked about the jewish question asking each other if they were zionists both answered yes but the stalin added something like he tried something in urss with jews but ,according to his words, said they were too deeply an urban merchant people. +also those writings(or notes taken) were written by alger hiss who later was judged for being a soviet spy. +--- 14896978 +>>14893776 +I imagine most lynchings occur not because of innocent people, but rather some sort of reaction. Anger from the public +--- 14897443 +>>14893776 +Lunching never had anything to do with race that is a Jewish hollyjew fiction. Lynching was a form of mob justice, hence why they were called lynch "mobs." The death sentence was "hanging by next until dead" lynch mobs did the same thing the state did, they just did it themselves. There were never KKK clans just roaming the countryside looking for niggers to lynch that us pure Jewish fiction +--- 14897726 +>>14893816 +he looks hot on this pic +--- 14897731 +>>14895051 +also vampires +--- 14897732 +>>14893781 +Yeah it reads like copy of Dido from Aeneid. +--- 14897735 +>>14893776 +That case is so weird for me +A guy was lynched for killing a woman because of the compelling evidence and somehow it is connected to Jews +--- 14897745 +>>14897726 +>he looks hot on this pic +--- 14897755 +>>14893868 +Lucky Daniel +--- 14897763 +>>14894018 +>>rides into the city alone, beats Chinese soldier for sleeping on duty +>>kidnaps Bogd-khan from prison +>>convinces everyone he is immortal +the masculine urge to do a physical feat that seems impossible and convince everyone that you are immortal +ugh +--- 14897770 +>>14893746 (OP) +--- 14898493 +>>14896972 +>the stalin added something like he tried something in urss with jews but ,according to his words, said they were too deeply an urban merchant people. +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast +There was an idea a the time that Jewish people were bad in their current form back that they could be reformed through redemption of the soil, which is to say they would become normal if they acted normal. Specifically that [hrasing came from Moses Hess who interacted with Marx and Engels early on before splitting with them on the issue of class struggle being the only relevant factor of analysis as he believed national or race struggle was nearly as important, and so he created labour zionism which is actually the first kind of zionism and predates the writings of Theodore Herzl who wrote without knowledge that someone had already written on the same topic, +--- 14898544 +>>14893746 (OP) +After being rejected by his oneitis, Josiah Harlan left Pennsylvania and went to Afghanistan with the intent of becoming a king. Beginning as a mercenary captain working for various warlords, he built up his reputation as a great commander.18 years later, he found himself working for the king of Afghanistan and after proving himself in battle, he was awarded the title Prince of Ghōr and officially afghan royalty. +--- 14898720 +>>14898544 +Back in the good ol days where men can legitimately just "go on an adventure" +--- 14898732 +>>14898720 +Nothing stops you from going to Afghanistan +--- 14898789 +>>14898544 +Berserk live action adaptation when? +--- 14898824 +>>14893983 +King George and Nicholas wanted to avoid the war but they had no choice because they were bound by the treaty. WW1 was not a family dispute. +--- 14899346 +>>14893868 +jammy bastard +--- 14899427 +>>14893936 +This, Jews in the south back then weren’t seen as different from any other Christian sect. Being perceived as a carpetbagger was a stronger case for lynching someone than being a Jew. The original KKK allowed Jews in and didn’t become antisemitic until it expanded to the north, but lefties still need to pin everything on ‘muh ebul southern hicks’ because they don’t want to accept that history isn’t as cut and dry as they think it is. +--- 14899693 +Creepy jew boss hits on underage girl outside his office, everyone can see it. She turns out raped and dead. Must be a black guy, definitely not the weird incel jew who keeps trying to fuck his underage employees. Obviously the black guys did it since they kept on raping and killing girls afterwards. Oh? They didnt. I like the fact he thought his rich jew friends would save him. +--- 14899697 +>>14895865 +the lads +--- 14900225 +>>14893814 +>us supporting socialists against Christian peasants +Greek Civil war? +--- 14900232 +>>14900225 +Might be WW2 era Yugoslavia, although it was primarily the British supporting the Communists. +--- 14900280 +>>14895167 +Yeah except that Jim Conley confessed under 'extreme sweating' that Frank paid him to move the body and forge the notes +--- 14900297 +>>14897735 +Frank was Jewish and his legal defense was financed by the Jewish business community, who kept up the funding after his conviction and eventually bribed the governor to commute his execution to a life sentence. After he was lynched following this, those same Jews founded and funded the ADL +--- 14900304 +>>14898544 +IRL The Man Who Would Be King? +--- 14900320 +>>14899693 +They did until the community kidnapped him from his jail cell and hanged him; his co-religionists bribed the governor to commute his death sentence to life in prison +--- 14900343 +>>14893776 +No. The case was an outlier. The KKK was highly bigoted against blacks, but Leo Frank was so guilty even they believed the blacks dindu nuffin. +--- 14901423 +>>14893868 +Source please +--- 14901430 +>>14893746 (OP) +Clodius and Milo +--- 14901431 +>>14894981 +Is that fucking hirohito +--- 14901443 +>>14895865 +why are they chilling so hard +--- 14901489 +>>14893746 (OP) +The Miracle of the House of Brandenburg +--- 14901529 +>>14901431 +Yes +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ATG4IsY1mE [Embed] +--- 14901572 +>>14900304 +The man who would be minor nobility. +--- 14901643 +>>14893821 +Lynching and race are circles on a venn diagram that intersect but not completely. +The South had racial strife, yes. It also knew that the two groups had to live together, because both groups knew that Northerners despised both groups. +Nigger rapes a white woman, gets lynched. Drunken useless whiteboy goes into the black part of town and rapes a black woman, her brothers kill him, maybe you don't call that a lynching, but no decent white man is going to avenge this asshole. +Problems happen on the edges, of course, and they get the press. Like this Leo Frank asshole, who's not exactly huwite. +--- 14901691 +>>14893746 (OP) +>The life and time of Basil I the Macedonian +>The duel between Peter III of Aragon and Charles I of Anjou/Sicily with Edward I of England acting as referee never ever +--- 14901697 +>>14893746 (OP) +Polish troops cannibalism in Moscow Kremlin. +--- 14901704 +>>14901529 +God of a cult that reaped havoc and killed millions... +--- 14901709 +>>14901529 +Japanese anime of 1940s full of anti American propaganda were a kino. Based on Mickey Mouse cartoons actually. +--- 14901777 +>>14901704 +and Hirohito +--- 14901974 +>>14895123 +*kneels out of respect* +--- 14902244 +>>14901423 +No source because it never happened, 95% of anons on this website just gossip like faggots at the theater about something they saw posted once somewhere without evidence. +--- 14902246 +>>14894490 +It really does read like some bullshit propoganda made up by the winning regime for its founder 500 years ago. +--- 14902286 +>>14895051 +>>14897731 +Explain. +--- 14902410 +>>14902246 +What is it referring to? Napoleon lived 200 years ago. +--- 14902582 +>>14900225 +Pretty sure it's referring to the Cristero War +--- 14902648 +straight out of Monty Python sketch +--- 14902676 +>>14902286 +It might've been some military psyop operation, I don't know if it was the CIA specifically but the US did something similar in South Vietnam - they'd play distorted recordings of people speaking Vietnamese claiming to be the ghosts of North Vietnamese soldiers that weren't buried properly to spook North Vietnamese soldiers at night +--- 14902683 +>>14893746 (OP) +John Money +--- 14902826 +>>14898544 +That guy is the great grandfather of Scott Reiniger who starred in Dawn of the dead +--- 14903231 +>>14895167 +>The circumstantial and forensic evidence overwhelmingly point to Jim Conley. +It doesn't, this academic fraud created on the behalf of the ADL +--- 14903371 +>>14893746 (OP) +Where do we even start? + +The Phoebus cartel +Unabomber was experimented on by the CIA +Keynes advocated for government to raise taxes and saw government spending only as an emergency action +Cybersyn was so effective even the World Bank quietly admitted it outperformed all previously studied models +Pilot wave theory was discredited by a mathematical error that was undetected for decades, instead we ended up with Quantum field theory +The Turing test idea was basically a prelude to a gay man's suicide, arguably a suicide note given the context +Statins drugs was key development was from a 1913 study finding that force feeding herbivores rabbits only high cholesterol gives them heart attacks +Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors drugs was a profit driven spinoff from allergy medication studies which found people on allergy medication had better mood than those without allergy medication +The X-33 was over 95% complete and would have changed spaceflight as we know it, but the director of NASA lobbied it to get canceled under grounds the new fuel tanks weren't ready. Older fuel tanks versions could have been used easily with some payload reduction +Japan had a meeting planned to discuss surrender days before the nuke hit, the sheer volume of regular bombs made the nuke drop pointless and a total waste of money +The engineer of the navy's nuclear reactor warned strongly against adapting his pressurized water reactor designs to land based power plants as lack of cooling water was a critical flaw, safer molten salt tech was already available but we use pressurized water reactor +Pentagon Wars is label a HBO comedy movie, but if you talk to people involve off the record they'll say it's far more a factual documentary +The modern idea of gold having value was a Roman political scheme to pay off the military with worthless rocks to prevent a solider uprising + +My life +--- 14903404 +>>14894981 +>casually makes multiple discoveries in the field of marine biology +--- 14903415 +>>14893821 +>Sees evidence against his viewpoint +>Refuses to read it +Classic lefty +--- 14903416 +>>14896972 +Stalin was no fan of the private bank, but did need their help during WW2. Like most cases in history, the only regimes capable of fighting back against the bank were totalitarian ones. The bank obviously wanted Trotsky in power. +--- 14903487 +>>14893746 (OP) +A child (Ismail I) who was heir to a religious cult (the Safavid sufi order) after his father and brother were killed emerged out of Gilan in Iran, became the leader of the safavids, avenged his father and brother and conquered the region and reformed the state of Iran 900 years after the fall of the Sassanids +--- 14903563 +>>14903371 +>My life +I demand multiple sources liar. +--- 14903716 +>>14902410 +When Napoleon escaped Elba and returned to France the re-instated Bourbons panicked and sent most of the army to destroy Nappy and his 700 guys he landed with. He met the army on the road, dismounted, and walked up to them unarmed, the entire army proceeded to throw down their weapons and re-proclaim his as true Emperor of France. + +He rode all the way to Paris, the whole while every other regiment in the Royal Army proclaimed for him, with the ones near him flocking to join his column until Louis XVIII had no fighting men left and was forced to leave Paris and the country under cover of night before Nappy was even in Paris. + +I'm just saying you'd expect some North Korean to write something like that about Kim Il-Sung as a propoganda piece. +--- 14903748 +>>14903371 +>The modern idea of gold having value +Wasn`t that Croesus? +--- 14903754 +>>14900304 +He was the inspiration for the man who would be king. +--- 14903759 +>>14903404 +Jotaro's career was inspired by Hirohito of all people? +--- 14903763 +>>14903563 +The sheer number of times when I've tried to talk to people only to be called a liar. + +If you look around back around 2014 you might find my old posting on 4chan where I was foolishly and naively trying to have a conversation and make friends mostly on /g/ or /b/. Yet every single time I talked about my life I was accused of creepypasta and shut down. Nobody believes my life, even in IRL and even when I have hard proof. It's such a complex mess I don't know where to being. Thankfully my life has gotten better, even if nobody believes me. +More generally I argue that I am a human and I have a life. But knowing how things go I'll just get called a A.I. or something. + +As for proof I exist, well I want to avoid doxing myself again and even the US government isn't clear on if I exist or not. Turns out if your parents give you a long first, middle and last name you can get different truncation errors so none of your government identification matches. The result is hellish as you have to argue that you exist at all the time, which makes of all kinds of strange unbelievable life events fueled all the more by technically having a second non-US birth certificate. Also I strongly recommend based on personal experience against becoming good friends with a nuclear engineer in college who years later goes through the highest level nuclear weapons background check, you'll make every alphabet list without even knowing it. Not that I likely wasn't on them for something else years earlier given all the other stuff in my life. +--- 14903852 +>>14894866 +That only meets the first criterion +--- 14903878 +>>14903748 +Not familiar with Croesus, he may have done something earlier + +The issue was that Roman empire started out with small states that got raided often, so they joined together and made a super powered military to stop all the attacks. This worked but left them with questions on what to do with such a large standing army. So they started conquering and growing, good expansion gains for years. + +At some point the army was just too powerful and they were having trouble paying them, kind of a recurring problem for them really given how big their military was. There was a real fear the army would just resort to banditry or possibly a full on coup. So they made new tax code that people had to pay in gold then gave the soldiers the gold. This was economic genius as it outsource the allocation to the markets. Soldiers and citizens then started negotiating how to solve the problem. Ever party was very motivated to solve this. The soldiers didn't really care for the gold so they would just trade it for what they wanted. The citizens would trade for the gold as they needed it to avoid the high cost of failing to pay taxes. Failure to pay enough taxes with gold meant the government would send the military to get them, so they would likely die and the solider could just take everything that citizen had as payment which also would act as soldiers duties and payment to avoid unlawful banditry, after all a tax collection wasn't counted as it was government sanctioned. They even got clever and had the gold payments done in large sums at key sites, helping shape where and in what density the soldiers gathered. This would also shape where the economic booms would happen as trading would jump wherever a payment site was declared. After all nobody liked lugging gold around to far, but it could be moved if the government wanted. +To help keep this going they really pushed the idea of how valuable gold was. + +Very similar trick was done by Abraham Lincoln with Greenbacks +--- 14903880 +>>14903763 +>Also I strongly recommend based on personal experience against becoming good friends with a nuclear engineer in college who years later goes through the highest level nuclear weapons background check, you'll make every alphabet list without even knowing it. Not that I likely wasn't on them for something else years earlier given all the other stuff in my life. +I was just kidding anon, but, oddly, I have a similar experience. An engineer friend with multiple clearances working for a defense contractor. But I have my own clearances, so I might be on lots of lists but my freedom hasn't been taken away yet. I'm sure they'd be thrilled I post on a Nicaraguan knitting forum. Keeping studying history my friend. +--- 14904013 +>>14898544 +>>14898720 +There's a surprising amount of similar stories from the 19th century +>Charles Vyner Brooke, the "White Rajah" of Sarawak +>Ambrosio Jose Gonzales, Cuban nationalist turned Confederate officer +>Charles-Marie David de Mayrena, short-lived King of Sedang +>William Walker, brief President of Nicaragua and Baja California +--- 14904081 +>>14903880 +Thanks +That freedom is one of the things I am thankful for. Despite how crazy things have gotten I've only be detained a day or two while they sort things out and eventually figure out I did nothing wrong each and every time. Although I think my pure law abiding honesty is why I get stopped so much. + +One time while being questioned by homeland security I started lecturing them about the errors they had relating to explosive materials, all while in an airport. I didn't really think about how that might be seen as suspicious at the time. Downside was I missed my flight, the upside was I later noticed they updated their documentation with the corrections I pointed out. I like to think that those correction on chemistry was my contribution to national security. But I honestly was more annoyed at whoever wrote the earlier version, I mean they mixed up some key parts and as a chemist those kind of errors annoyed me. The second part of how to detect home made flash bangs materials is almost word for word what I told them, nice to know they listened. Just one of many tiny historical contributions in my life. +--- 14904220 +There’s like a 99% chance Frank did kill the girl, but Jews do everything they can say to say that’s not true using the weight of media and nearly no evidence. It’s an extremely similar tactic they use when they whine about their khazar heritage +--- 14904816 +>>14896879 +you should print out photos of Mary Phagan and leave them around the theatre diff --git a/his/14895772.txt b/his/14895772.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6232a9c9584e7b4f66a762250ad1d921208644c4 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14895772.txt @@ -0,0 +1,2762 @@ +----- +--- 14895772 +In the 1980s, the Alawite Rifaat al-Assad slaughtered the Muslim Brotherhood at Tadmor prison and Hama in Syria. Rifaat al-Assad slaughtered tens of thousands of Sunni Muslim Brotherhood members in Hama. Sunni Bedouin tribes (Related to Saudi tribes) aided Rifaat al-Assad in his slaughter of the Muslim Brotherhood in Hama in 1982. + +Rifaat was brother in law with Saudi Prince Abdullah (later King Abdullah), both of them married Syrian Sunni sisters. After Rifaat slaughtered the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, King Abdullah invited Rifaat al-Assad to go on umrah pilgrimage in Mecca and pray in the prophet's mosque in Medina multiple times and Rifaat kissed King Fahd and regularly met with Saudi royals. + +This has nothing to do with MBS recently opening up Saudi Arabia and recent censoring Islamist clerics and scaling back morality police. This was back in the 1980s and 1990s (and King Abdullah helped Sisi massacre the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood later). + +Sadam Hussein backed the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood in the 80s but Saddam banned the Iraqi Muslim Brotherhood. Saddam supported India against Pakistan and supported Milosević in Serbia and told Chechens they should not be fighting Russia and not get used by Americans. + +Saddam later negotiated with Assad in 1996 for a detente also reaching out to Iran via Assad telling them Turkey is the biggest threat to Iraq and Syria and they need to stop Turkey. + +Sunni Bedouin tribes today still fight for Assad against rebels. + +Why do these Sunni Islamists have such low IQ and get used as disposable pawns so easily by people who don't believe in their idelogy? Saddam used Syrian Muslim Brotherhood as proxy toilet paper pawns. + +Saudi Arabia celebrated deaths of Muslim Brotherhood. +--- 14895785 +oh no, chinkspammer just discovered realpolitik +--- 14895794 +>>14895772 (OP) +And so many dumb Islamists thought Saudi Arabia was with them until MBS and blame MBS for changing everything. + +Saudi Arabia always hated the Muslim Brotherhood decades ago and backed the Alawite Rifaat. + +Saudi princess Fahda married a Danish man decades ago when MBS wasn't wven born meanwhile no Saudi princess would marry an Iraqi Muslim Brotherhood supporting incel. +--- 14895809 +>>14895772 (OP) +>>14895794 +Muslim Brotherhood also cries about Circassian genocide to get people to hate Russia. + +Every single Circassian Sunni Muslims in Galilee are Zionists who serve the Israeli defense forces and most Circassians I'm Syria are with Assad against the Muslim Brotherhood. + +These Sunni Islamists have a cuck fetish. +--- 14895845 +>>14895809 +Al-Qaeda terrorist leader Aymenn al-Zawahiri (rest in hell) tried to appropriate Malcolm X in his propaganda presenting him as an Islamist. + +Malcolm X (after he left Nation of Islam and became a regular Sunni) openly supported the communist party of China praising China and Mao and supported black African Marxist revolutionary Mohamed Abdulrahman Babu who participated in the Zanzibar revolution, overthrowing Arab Muslim rule in Zanzivar resulting in mass rapes and slaughter of Arab settlers there by the black Africans. + +Malcolm X was never an Islamist. After he was kicked out of Nation of Islam and became Sunni he separated his religious activities from his political ones and created an all black political group forbidding non-blacks from joining (including Muslim non-blacks). He separated it from his mosque and religious work. + +Malcolm X would have supported China against Uyghur Islamists and Muslim Brotherhood. + +Arab Sunni Islamists (Muslim Brotherhood, Al-Qaeda) have a cuck fetish trying to appropriate people who hate them. That's why they get Sarin gassed by Assad and slaughtered like pigs by Russia. They are naturally inferior, stupid and marked for extermination. +--- 14895860 +>>14895845 +The african american boxer Muhammad Ali Clay also met Hafez al-Assad and held his portrait up (both before and after Hama 1982). + +Muslim Brotherhood cucks would try to claim him as one of theirs. +--- 14895911 +It must be the money. If you cant grt funds from a rich donor, youre gonna be nobodies. Guns, bombs, bribes, and propaganda all cost money. No money no honey +--- 14895928 +>>14895772 (OP) +because muslim breeding strategies dont require intelligence as they will beat you over time, regardless of if you bomb them or not and win the battle, the slack will be taken up elsewhere and they will come again when they have rebred the numbers. They have just come through the bloodiest century in islamic history and theres still at least a billion of them to zerg rush as they so desire. +--- 14896010 +Take a guess. +--- 14896116 +Iraqi and Syrian Sunni Islamists and Muslim Brotherhood also claim Timur was Shia (he was a Sunni Turco-Mongol) to cope with Timur sacking and raping Sunni Iraqis in Baghdad and Sunni Syrians in Aleppo and Damascus. + +The cucks try to claim Central Asian Sunnis are their brothers (the Central Asian Turco-Mongols are their FATHERS) and put all the blame on Shia. + +Bilal Abdul Kareem, African American journalist in Idlib has a harem of Syrian Sunni wives and he sent his nudes to Syrian Sunni women. Kazakh, Uzbek and Uyghur men are pumping and dumping Syrian Sunni Muslim Brotherhood and HTS women in Idlib as well. +--- 14896126 +>>14896116 +Muslim Brotherhood also cucks for Azerbaijanis against Armenians. + +Azerbaijani are Zionist allies of Israel. Azerbaijani are Twelver Shia who build statues of Safavid Shah Ismail who sacked Baghdad, raping Iraqi Sunni girls and desecrated the grave of Sunni Imam Abu Hanifah. They claim Safavids as Azerbaijani Turk heroes. + +Words cannot describe the cuck fetish of Muslim Brotherhood, Al-Qaeda and other Arab Sunni terrorists from Iraq and Syria. +--- 14896129 +>>14896116 +>Timur was Shia (he was a Sunni Turco-Mongol) +He claimed descent from Ali, he claimed his motive was to avenge Ali, and he forced the Syrians to admit Ali was the only Caliph. +--- 14896145 +>>14896129 +>He claimed descent from Ali, + +He didn't do this. + +>he claimed his motive was to avenge Ali, and he forced the Syrians to admit Ali was the only Caliph. + +He said he was avenging Hussein at the hands of the Umayyads and that Syrians were heirs of the Umayyads. + +He was a Sunni and made up this excuse to rape Turco-Mongol blood into Sunni Arabs. +--- 14896148 +>Muslim Brotherhood also cucks for Azerbaijanis against Armenians +milktaco you do know what the religions of those areas are right +--- 14896151 +>>14896126 +The Azerbaijanis claim descent from Qizilbash Turkmen Shia who raped Sunni Arab Iraqi girls in Baghdad. +--- 14896156 +>>14896145 +>He didn't do this. +Its on his tomb you fucking retard +--- 14896157 +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12652978/#q12653027 + +>>12653027 >>12754007 + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/bS072KmfzHGpDbQXa5T7-g/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12752388/#q12754007 + +https://www.reddit.com/user/milktaco/ + + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Iraqis + +https://twitter.com/ClassyArabic/status/1489302804829147137 + +Fun fact. + +This Arab eunuch, ʿAmmār, in Norman service in Christian Sicily in the 12th century hid an actual secret message in his signature. The first part says: +أشهد انا الفتى عمار وهذه علامتي +="I testify that I am the man ʿAmmār and this is my signature" +(1/3) + + +This Chinese Skyscraper Boasts One of the World's Largest Man-Made waterfalls + +Burmese people according to George Orwell + +https://www.npr.org/2005/07/19/4761169/exploring-burma-through-george-orwell + +Exploring Burma Through George Orwell + +https://www.shutterstock.com/search/china-dish + +search China dish royalty-free images + +The subhuman Arab paedophile on /his/ like all Iraqi Arabs is an interracial mongrel, a result of half-Turk half-Mongol rape of Iraq through history. + +He is "forgotten4ever" on reddit. + +niggerspammer, kikespammer, sandniggerspammer, chinkspammer, gookspammer, wogspammer, nipspammer +--- 14896168 +>>14896145 +>He was a Sunni and made up this excuse to rape Turco-Mongol blood into Sunni Arabs. +No he wasnt. You're retarded. His words and actions show he was some sort of shia. +--- 14896173 +>>14895772 (OP) +Chinkspammer what happened today? +--- 14896176 +Sunni clerics declared Shia are more infidel than Christians and that Shia are not protected by dhimmi pacts. + +>>14896156 +He didn't do it retard, how could he inscribe his own tomb after he was dead? His descendants did it and Ali us the fourth caliph of Sunnism and many Sunnis claim to be Sayyid falsely. +--- 14896181 +>>14896176 +You're so retarded. He designed his own tomb. +--- 14896182 +>>14896116 +>>14896126 +>>14896129 +>>14896145 +>>14896145 +>>14896148 +>>14896151 +>>14896156 +>>14896157 +>>14896168 +>>14896173 +>>14896176 +This is the Iraqi Arab Sunni Muslim paedophile suphamsulu forgotten4ever MyDolores Uracil_Goblin Iraqi_shitposter on reddit + +AntiMajoosUnit QutaybabnMuslim on Twitter + +orgasm123456789 and barooo50 on powerbot + +The Iraqi paedophile is obsessed with white girls, Vietnamese girls, Korean girls and Japanese girls and porn stars. Everything he says is projection. +--- 14896188 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +This is the suicidal pedophile from an Iraqi Sunni Arab speaking family. He is a fan of dimashqee (Ahmed Bashir), another terrorist supporter. + +http://archive.is/klrCx http://archive.is/pcHwc http://archive.is/p0LAZ http://archive.is/c3Rbf http://archive.is/J5osY http://archive.is/ajcw6 http://archive.is/wITXe http://archive.is/ddRRp http://archive.is/6xo3R http://archive.is/AVIoS http://archive.is/jciGq http://archive.is/HcdTw http://archive.is/uAEbU http://archive.is/01mV2 + +http://archive.is/kPV9d http://archive.is/swAZQ +http://archive.is/https://www.reddit.com/user/corporatedemocrat + +http://archive.is/https://www.reddit.com/user/PalestinianBanker + +http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/asdfqwert9631 + +http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/palibro_ + +http://archive.is/ETItC + +http://archive.is/tzzFW +http://archive.is/https://www.reddit.com/user/forgotten4ever/ +http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/QutaybabnMuslim +https://archive.is/https://twitter.com/QutaybabnMuslim/with_replies +http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/QutaybabnMuslim/media +http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/AntiMajoosUnit +https://archive.is/https://twitter.com/AntiMajoosUnit/with_replies +http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/AntiMajoosUnit/media +http://archive.is/https://www.reddit.com/user/forgotten4everadobe/ +https://archive.is/https://www.reddit.com/user/MyDolores +http://archive.is/https://www.powerbot.org/community/profile/536423-orgasm123456789/content/ +https://archive.is/https://www.powerbot.org/community/profile/536423-orgasm123456789/?do=content&type=forums_topic_post&change_section=1 +https://archive.is/E0Ql5 + +https://archive.is/TMlMw + +https://archive.is/oOvKc + +https://archive.is/Sbhkl +https://archive.is/pUo2B +https://archive.is/5unGI#selection-1886.1-1935.5 +https://archive.is/OUbWp#selection-2855.0-2855.255 + +http://archive.is/xpNkV#selection-3071.0-3075.589 + +http://archive.is/b27vh#selection-3573.0-3578.0 + +Swedish Arabic +--- 14896191 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +Iraqi Arab Sunni pedophile in Sweden. Kristianstad and Gothenburg. + +The Iraqi Arab Sunni Muslim incel pedophile in Sweden frequently posted on /int/ here responding to someone calling him by his most infamous handle, SUPHAMSULU, that he used on the incels subreddit. + +https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/96909772/#q96910446 + +https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/96909772/#96910599 + +There is an Iraqi Arab Sunni Muslim pedophile rapist in Sweden infamously known as barooo50 and forgotten4ever on reddit, orgasm123456789 on powerbot forum and AntiMajoosUnit and QutaybabnMuslim on twitter who works with dimashqee the ISIS rapist supporter. His dozens of accounts were banned on reddit and powerbot. He admitted to pedophilia and attempted rape. The Iraqi and Palestinian Sunnis hate Shias, Christians and white people. + +The Iraqi pedophile goes all over reddit, 4chan and twitter defending the "honor" of Sunni Muslims and Arabs and is triggered by any comment insulting Sunnis and Arabs. He sent death threats to Muslim women dating non-Muslim white men and boasts that Europe will be conquered and white women all be raped by Sunni Muslims. + +Look them up in the 4chan archives especially forgotten4ever. + +http://archive.is/jciGq + + +He has been talking to himself, arguing with his alter egos of different ethnicities and insulting those ethnicities with racial insults on reddit fand 4chan for years because he suffers from extreme insanity and schizophrenia. He hates white people, Indians, Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, Slavs, East Asians. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/5496059/#q5497337 + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/5161562/#q5163642 + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/5511692/#q5515877 + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/5138416/#q5195214 + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/5138416/#q5195138 + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/5161562/#q5163787 + +https://archive.is/nJK4x + +https://archive.is/ebyHz +--- 14896194 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +Iraqi Arab Sunni paedophile in Sweden, AntiMajoosUnit and his opinion on Russians and Slavs. + +https://archive.is/SLQuI + +>Rumor is that crusaders will shit themselves upon seeing these men. Lions of Chechnya. Not once but twice they humiliated the dogs. First they collapsed their savage union then they humiliated Russia. + + +https://archive.is/8mAgM + +>Friend i’d crack your head open. One punch and i’ll send you back to the times your women were concubines in the Sultan’s harem. + +https://archive.is/XUcGK + +>1. Remove that gay filter, you look horrendous. 2. Are you in love with your Russian abusers? Interesting considering you ”are” circassian, a people they genocided so the few remaining fled to Turkey. 3. SAA is the biggest terror organisation no doubt. 4. Turkey and KSA is coming + +https://archive.is/7S9Op + +Scroll down + +https://archive.is/7S9Op + +>Based on? Don’t need to. The best whores are Christians, just visit Egypt and you’ll know. Heck, come to Syria. + +>How old are you? Go to Egypt, ask any Egyptian who the whores are, they’ll all tell you copts. + +https://archive.is/Hdaom + +>Please read 3.28 is ASSad a Muslim or not? He’s not. So don’t come bringing up the qur’an now you kaffir bin sharmuta. + +https://archive.is/bt7bz + +>I preach hate by telling you to stop supporting a kaffir scum in Syria that has murdered 600 000 Sunnis? If that’s a crime then lock me up or kill me. Because the only way for me to stop is if I get killed. + +https://archive.is/mdsmR + +>Fuck off kaffir. You are the biggest hypocrite and lowlife I have ever seen. You are not even the slightest Muslim. You keep retweeting anti-Islamic and fake propaganda against Islam. It’s not even you in the profile picture. You are an Islamophobe hiding as a Muslim girl. + +https://archive.is/Fa1Lj + +>Sheer numbers? Arabs were literally outnumbered in some numbers in ratios of 1:20 yet they assraped you weak cowards. +--- 14896198 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +An anti-Hindu, anti-Indian, Iraqi Arab Sunni Muslim. + +>>10272628 + +Meanwhile I can prove an Arab posted it. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10249882/#10272628 + +https://archive.is/https://twitter.com/AntiMajoosUnit/status/* + +https://archive.is/gRjXU + +>Pajeet, Sunnis are your masters. Remember Aurangzeb? He’s your master. What about Timur? Another one of your masters. Sunnis have humiliated you for so long it’s laughable even speaking to you. + +https://archive.is/zHddS + +>How every Shia terrorist will end up being. + + +https://archive.is/8v1Sm + +>Indians are so much humiliated by us that you literally change history in order to seem like normal human beings and not slaves. Lie as much as you want, after all you were the slaves of Sunnis for 1000 years. + + +https://archive.is/wSiN0 + +>Let’s see what Pakistanis have achieved: Nukes,MBT’s, jet fighters, respectable special forces. Let’s see what the inbred Christi*ns have achieved: inbred, incest, problems. You are not worth the urine of a Pakistani. + + +https://archive.is/iHTYq + +>You do kinda look like the maids in the Gulf though. Gulf people don’t deal with your shit though, they are succesful people who don’t care about people from third world shitholes. + +>I’d too be pissy 24/7 if my skin looks so + + +https://archive.is/stcIQ + +>Mashallah what a lowlife she must be, married a kaffir, changed her religion and dressed like a prostitute. Hassan and Hussein is proud of you. + +https://archive.is/I3KoS + +>Most kuffar women have had sex with at least 5 men by 20 so no thank you. I’d visit a prostitute if I wanted a cheap woman. + +https://archive.is/kfy7G + +>Enver could maybe clear your eyes for you? +--- 14896205 +>>14896145 +>He said he was avenging Hussein at the hands of the Umayyads and that Syrians were heirs of the Umayyads. +Literally a shia thing dumbass. +--- 14896220 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +The Iraqi paedophile tried to come up with a cover story on flashback forums when he got exposed by claiming the Uracil_Goblin picture was edited. + +Except the edited version which the Iraqi photoshopped with Niggerkiller2000 appears LATER than the Uracil_Goblin version on both desuarchive and on the justpaste dumps + +https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.aco.an.c.cgl.d.fit.g.int.m.mlp.mu.q.qa.r9k.tg.trash.vr.wsg/image/TarzrqCaX_UCGyylIG1SCA/ + +https://desuarchive.org/int/search/image/ctMWhZgzbAuK0fXoV3Cn1w/ + +And the Niggerkiller2000 version has perfect computer font edited into the graph paper and part of his index finger is edited out, while the Uracil_Goblin one is the original and has the index finger in full form and is handwritten on the paper and not typed and edited in +--- 14896223 +>>14896182 +>>14896182 +AISHA IS A MURTRAD WHORE. +now >>14896173 answer me you yellow mental midget. +--- 14896224 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +Iraqi Arab Sunni paedophile in Sweden, forgotten4ever praises jihad against Russians. + +https://archive.is/chODI + +https://archive.is/aMc6w + +One more for our Polish, Ukrainian and other Slavic bros on this deranged Iraqi in Sweden. He is singlehandedly responsible for over half the insults against Poles and Slavs on 4chan. He is the one boasting how Arabs and Muslims raped white people. + +If you see people cursing Slavs, calling Poles as Polacks and talking about rape and slavery of Slavs on his, pol, or int, its him. + +This is what he wrote on Poles, Ukrainians, Bulgarians and other Slavs on powerbot. + +https://archive.is/OUbWp#selection-2855.0-2858.0 + +>>orgasm123456789 +>>BANNED +>>Members + +>>2926 posts +>>Report post +>>Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) + +>>These are not muslims, these are either yazidis or christians, the ones we kill for fun, those are your christian brothers, you retarded polish scum, or theyre either gypsies, which is parallel to being a slav, you are a gypsy yourself you filthy polack. +>>Edited May 13, 2016 by orgasm123456789 + +http://archive.is/b27vh#selection-3125.0-3130.0 + +>>orgasm123456789 +>>BANNED +>>Members +>>2926 posts +>>Report post +>>Posted February 25, 2016 + +>>people like us were the ones hitler admired and on our demand killed 6 million jews, keep hating yourself you eastern euro trash, sieg heil and piece to those 4 million nazi soldiers that killed 40 million of you subhumans + + +>>youre a bulgarian trash claiming to be austrian, just kill yourself please, also go read some history books, hitler looked up on arabs and aryans as the true master race, since youre a eastern euro trash i cant expect anything off your brain other than prostituting your woman for money. Maybe your grandparents were the victims of the marching nazi soldiers you eastern euro trash, who knows. +--- 14896272 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>The jews used to want to live with muslims that protected them rather with the barbaric christians, that is a fact, another fact is the matter that so many black americans converted to islam because there exists no racism there, i understand youre a hurt eastern euro trash though, nobody has ever enslaved the arabs, we are the masters of all slaves, we enslaved you white europeans, blacks, indians, chinese, and now were enslaving eastern euro trash. + +http://archive.is/Dw8cs#selection-3663.0-3668.0 + +>>stop acting as if you are with the side of right wingers when you rape more girls than any other group in sweden and in england, filthy polack, long live stalin and hitler. stop coming to sweden to pick berries with your filthy hands no wonder the strawberry market went down as soon as you came to infest our plantations with your disgusting hands. + +http://archive.is/Dw8cs#selection-4359.0-4364.0 + +>>napalm isnt used in hot areas you dumb polack scum, long live hitler for trying to wipe off you scum from this earth, you are so smelly dirty and disgusting, i havent claimed that i am european, you on the other hand, nobody likes you or your people keep sucking western dick in hope of getting validated, self hating scum. +--- 14896275 +forgotten4ever the Iraqi pedophile in Sweden tried to get an Indonesian Muslim woman murdered for sleeping with a white man. + +https://www.reveddit.com/v/islam/comments/6k46ld/do_not_let_the_public_image_of_a_muslimah_deceive/ +https://archive.is/Sbhkl +https://www.removeddit.com/r/islam/comments/6k46ld/do_not_let_the_public_image_of_a_muslimah_deceive/djja3iv + +>She deserves to be shamed and named, everyone who wears burka but goes around to have sex with foreigners and put shame on the burka must be punished. + +https://archive.is/nVVtA +https://www.removeddit.com/r/islam/comments/6k46ld/do_not_let_the_public_image_of_a_muslimah_deceive/ +>I've got nothing to work on, I am perfect as a muslim and human being, and I will do takfir on these dirty lowlives that wear burka on one hand and on the other have sex with white men despite being married, she deserves the death penalty, hell death would be too light for her. + +https://www.reddit.com/r/islam/comments/6k46ld/do_not_let_the_public_image_of_a_muslimah_deceive/djja3bm/ + +>European prom is different to american one. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/6884888/#q6886858 + +https://archive.is/aMc6w#selection-3459.0-3655.110 + +>>[–]forgotten4ever -5 points 6 days ago +>>Albanians do not have names such those. This is 99% an example of a white sexpat/fetischist "converting" to islam just for the Asian woman. Sad. + +>>[–]forgotten4ever -21 points 7 days ago* +>>White male marrying a SEA woman. Disgusts me. +>>Edit: It's not that I am being racist or anything, it's just that some cultures truly blow my mind. The self hate there is so strong, you never see an arab woman getting married out by sexpats, yet they are supposedly "the most populated muslim country" and at the same time notorious for being the second go-to spot for sexpats after Thailand. +>The man in the picture probably cares nothing about Islam but most likely has a fetish for asian females. Sad. + +forgotten4ever knows Shams al-Saudi,sister of Saad al-Saudi in Kristianstad +--- 14896282 +>>14896157 +>>14896275 +The Iraqi Arab Sunni Islamist incel pedophile's posts on reddit + +http://archive.is/tYk05 + +>Hilarious how the same people who support Assad "because he is the best choice" are extremely anti Erdogan, despite Erdogan doing nothing but good for the Turkish people, boosting the economy by over 500%, increasing the HDI, increasing the lives for tens of millions of Turks. But the average Redditor with a PHD in Turkish history will give you his view and of course it is the right view. Because who cares if Turks are staring? As soon as they are "SECULAR!!!111" that's all that matter + +http://archive.is/NeCSF + +>The vlad method? When he was our bitch and we made his own brother kill him? Who occupied Romania for hundreds of years? What about the crusades? You ended up humiliated by Saladin and you ended up kissing the Turkish king's feet. +>Im too up for another crusade, will you lose it just as horrible against the Mamluks and Turks? You can only massacre civilians, but when the Turks come, your army shivers like cowards and ends up being massacred. +>Reading your post history you're just another one of the many spineless cowards that would gaze down at the floor at the sight of you seeing a Muslim. + +>After you've finished having your turns with your horse(that your government deems is absolutely legal) i'll just blow your head with a 7,63mm. + +His favourite insult, calling Europeans "white trash" and bragging about Arabs viewing education as HIGH STATUS. This is the account he photo verified btw. >>14896191 + +https://www.unddit.com/r/sweden/comments/4yz7lp/åttaåring_död_i_lägenhetsexplosion/d6rqet7/ +>Eh de två sista delarna i argumentet äe helt felaktiga, i arabländer är utbildning status, EXTREMT HÖG STATUS. Kusingifte sker mycket lite, speciellt i urbaniserade delar, jag hoppas att din bild av araber som efterblivna grottmänniskor verkligen ändras. Försök att se dessa elaka bumbibjörnar som vad ni kallar white trash. + +EXTREMT HÖG STATUS. +--- 14896304 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +This is the connection between the accounts of the Iraqi Sunni pedophile rapist SUPHAMSULU. forgotten4ever posted one of his YouTube videos uploaded by his account yuuto3333 which also posted runescape videos. + +He tried to raise money to meet a Japanese porn star Rie Tachikawa. + +https://www.unddit.com/r/translator/comments/24maiv/i_need_help_japanese_to_english/ +https://archive.is/JCSnL +https://www.removeddit.com/r/translator/comments/24maiv/i_need_help_japanese_to_english/ + +>>[–]forgotten4ever (deleted by user)2 points4 years ago +>>I am sorry but does it concern you if it's from a porno? It was a 2 hour long video so I cut it and uploaded with Youtube so the one who is trying to help me doesn't get uncomfortable. And to clear some things up from Sweden to Japan it's about 7000 kilometers or 5500 miles. And I will succed with this "quest" mark my words. I will return to you with a picture of her and I once im done. Thank you. + +https://archive.is/tIKbs + +https://archive.is/aD6UC + +He begged justpaste to delete the info on his pedophilia, rape and insults against white people and begged imgur to delete his photos. +--- 14896314 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +The Iraqi paedophile talking about his fantasy to have sex with a Japanese porn star. + +https://archive.is/HwnZP#selection-79.0-79.43 + +https://www.removeddit.com/r/tipofmypenis/comments/7fk8t7/japanese_babe_does_anal_whats_her_name/dqh3ljv/ + +The Iraqi pedophile has spoken. +Iraqi pedophile forgotten4ever insults against Tunisian atheist Foxodroid on reddit. +(Scroll down on the page it isn't his first post) +http://archive.is/yTXb5 +>Yeah try to suck the western dick some more. You sure enjoyed when the French raped your nation and sold your women on the streets like cattle, it's after them you are getting your "liberation" from right? +>Seems to be some sort of Stockholm Syndrome with Tunisians, their nation was raped, colonized and hundreds of thousands slaughtered by the west and now they have this mental retardation of them trying to be them for some reason. +>Oh and you are talking about prostitution and how Muslims are the awful ones? +>What is your obsession with rape and pedophilia? Did your father or uncle rape you as a baby? Are your parents usually having sex with you? That's some unhealthy obsession. + + +http://archive.is/jciGq + +https://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/1286444-i-am-having-a-date-tomorrow-monday-any-tips-to-treat-m39lady-with-utter-respect/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-15612104 + +>actually since youre a swedish homofag who probably is getting penetrated by his dad as im writing this, tell me where you are in sweden, lets meet up, im in karlskrona atm with a couple of friends (rip you never had those) we're doing some business for my uncles company so im free for 4 days, lets meet up anywhere in sweden and ill make sure to leave you crippledd +--- 14896319 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +More on the Iraqi paedophile. + +Look who is obsessed with Hui Muslims and talking to himself. He is obsessed with larping as Asian in order to get Japanese and Korean girlfriends. + +https://archive.is/6DANr + +https://archive.is/kH9u7 + +https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/6vtfgc/china_loudspeakers_from_mosques_removed_in/dm3ne8n/ + +>The most prestigious Chinese generals and warriors have often been Muslim. + +https://www.removeddit.com/r/tipofmypenis/comments/7fk8t7/japanese_babe_does_anal_whats_her_name/dqh3ljv/ + +Look up the exact username mentioned there + +http://archive.is/pVEJl#selection-197.0-202.0 + +>spain was an off-spring arab country for like 600 years, hilarious kek + +http://archive.is/hhDzr + +>Both of them are really defending people, especially chechens who kicked russias ass, respect to both! + +He said the Portuguese were Arabs on this thread. + +https://archived.moe/his/thread/4887026/#4889747 + +https://archive.is/6DANr#selection-2716.0-2716.3 + +https://archived.moe/his/thread/4887026/#q4890299 + +>The portugese are arab anyway it would be like crying about one arab tribe attacking the other. + +He posted about raping European women on both websites and he said he personally did it. + +The Iraqi admitted to rubbing his penis into a baby girl's face when her parents weren't looking. +--- 14896324 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +The Iraqi pedophile pretended to be Chechen Muslim and Hui Chinese Muslim for years on different websites. He is obsessed with pretending to be a Chechen and Hui because he thought it would get him an Asian girl and white girl. + +His accounts on reddit were obsessed with Hui Muslims and he photo verified the account. + +https://archive.is/HCj6U + +you can recognize his posts from a kilometre away + +https://archive.is/6DANr +He rubbed his penis on a baby girl's face. + +https://archive.is/kH9u7#selection-713.272-713.277 + +The Iraqi pedophile impersonated Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Filipinos and insults his imaginary alter egos from other ethnicities but accidently doxxed his own photo. + + +This schizophrenic bipolar Iraqi incel pedophile hates seeing white men with asian women like Indonesians and Koreans and Japanese because he lusts after asian women, especially Japanese and Korean. + +Scroll down and view his pedophile subreddit to see "Enough.", "Every living ASIAN female with an intact hymen that also possesses a lolita build deserves nothing but a man like me.", "I think I might have went too far today", "My sister found out about my secret", "I am the closest a man can come to total suffering", "A question to the ladies... though I have made my mind up.". + +He threw a latte at Asian women on the streets of Sweden. This Iraqi admits to being a pedophile who wants to rape an Asian baby girl. + +http://archive.is/YvHfh + +The Iraqi is a child molesting incel and a threat to all women. +--- 14896329 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896324 +Iraqi pedophile in Sweden posts against white Europeans and Christians + +http://archive.is/NeCSF +>[–]forgotten4ever -2 points 15 hours ago* +>The vlad method? When he was our bitch and we made his own brother kill him? Who occupied Romania for hundreds of years? What about the crusades? You ended up humiliated by Saladin and you ended up kissing the Turkish king's feet. +>Im too up for another crusade, will you lose it just as horrible against the Mamluks and Turks? You can only massacre civilians, but when the Turks come, your army shivers like cowards and ends up being massacred. +>Reading your post history you're just another one of the many spineless cowards that would gaze down at the floor at the sight of you seeing a Muslim. +>[–]forgotten4ever 1 point 3 hours ago +>>After you've finished having your turns with your horse(that your government deems is absolutely legal) i'll just blow your head with a 7,63mm. + +http://archive.is/aHC46 +>[–]forgotten4ever -12 points 1 year ago +>The FSA is still standing strong, it is in Turkey held positions, don't tell me I don't know what is going on in my own home. I would prefer an Al-nusra rule to Assad any day of the week, Assad has done atrocities 1000x worse than them. The "minorities" is being used as Russian and Iranian propaganda, good to see it has came to get into your head. + +http://archive.fo/tYk05 +>[–]Uracil_Goblin (deleted by user)-15 points6 months ago +>Hilarious how the same people who support Assad "because he is the best choice" are extremely anti Erdogan, despite Erdogan doing nothing but good for the Turkish people, boosting the economy by over 500%, increasing the HDI, increasing the lives for tens of millions of Turks. But the average Redditor with a PHD in Turkish history will give you his view and of course it is the right view. Because who cares if Turks are staring? As soon as they are "SECULAR!!!111" that's all that matters +--- 14896333 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896329 +The suicidal mentally ill Iraqi Arab Sunni Muslim pedophile in Sweden samefagging with three of his accounts forgotten4ever, Iraqi_shitposter and Uracil_Goblin (verified) talking about his fantasies with a kpop star + +http://archive.is/r8MLK + +Uracil_Goblin asked where to find the drugs modafinil and adderal in Sweden. + +http://archive.is/ddRRp +His barooo50 account cheered on the Taliban for killing an American soldier. + +http://archive.is/J5osY#selection-2591.0-2613.105 + +http://archive.is/uxnsv + +https://reddit.dynu.net/user/Uracil_Goblin/ + +>Uracil_Goblin +>But gentlemen, you lost all crusades except one and your king had to kiss the turk's feet before losing all of Anatolia + +http://archive.is/iLngw + +https://reddit.dynu.net/r/truerateme/?after=t3_6wm4y7 + +>[19m] your average swedish male in 2050 god willing(imgur.com) +>Uracil_Goblin + +http://archive.is/9OC2g + +https://boreddit.com/t/greentext/2016/3 + +>anon gets exposed (imgur) +>score: 995 comments: 15 Uracil_Goblin + +https://archive.is/J0dvv + +http://i.imgur.com/U4aFaj8.png + +https://pholder.com/u/uracil_goblin + +https://snew.notabug.io/r/greentext/comments/529b17/anon_is_in_trouble/ + +https://www.unddit.com/r/greentext/comments/529b17/anon_is_in_trouble/ +https://www.removeddit.com/r/greentext/comments/529b17/anon_is_in_trouble/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/comments/529b17/anon_is_in_trouble/ +https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/comments/5bunvx/anon_gets_exposed/ + +https://www.unddit.com/r/greentext/comments/5bunvx/anon_gets_exposed/ +https://www.removeddit.com/r/greentext/comments/5bunvx/anon_gets_exposed/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/50bzkc/honestly_not_even_sure_what_to_title_this/ + +https://www.unddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/50bzkc/honestly_not_even_sure_what_to_title_this/ +https://www.removeddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/50bzkc/honestly_not_even_sure_what_to_title_this/ +--- 14896340 +>>14896157 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +Why do pedophiles like this Iraqi Sunni Arab ISIS and Al-Qaeda Nusra supporter suphamsulu in Sweden run their mouths when talking big and threatening but try to hide their faces like pussies? What did he say about pussies after challenging a white Swede to fight in Gothenburg (Göteborg)? + +http://archive.is/S1BjC#selection-323.0-325.0 + +http://archive.is/8mAgM + + +https://archive.is/Cu44X#selection-1326.0-1326.1 + +http://archive.is/7tCTV + +The Iraqi Sunni Arab pedophile running his mouth off against Slavs, Eastern Europeans, Yazidis, and Christians. + +http://archive.is/xbVUx#selection-2810.0-2810.1 + +http://archive.is/lwgLp#selection-2444.0-2444.1 + +http://archive.is/xpNkV#selection-3070.0-3070.1 + +http://archive.is/b27vh#selection-4480.0-4480.1 + +http://archive.is/IbcfW#selection-2512.0-2512.1 + +He begged powerbot to unban him so he could in order for him to trade more runescape gold. + +http://archive.is/2C3jj#selection-1151.1-1156.0 + +https://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/1339706-ban-appeal/ + +This Iraqi Sunni Arab pedophile knows the sister of Iraqi runner Saad Alsaud in Kristianstad Sweden. + +https://archive.is/sIarT +https://www.reveddit.com/r/europe/comments/4tjs1e/german_train_axe_attacker_had_is_flag/d5iqksy/ +https://www.removeddit.com/r/europe/comments/4tjs1e/german_train_axe_attacker_had_is_flag/d5iqksy/ + +He most likely lives in or spends most of his time in Gothenburg since that is where he attacked two Asian women as he admitted on suphamsulu. + +https://www.reddit.com/r/suphamsulu/comments/66ssxd/i_think_i_might_have_went_too_far_today/ + +His account barooo50 complained about chat restrictions he received on league of legends for harassment. + +https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2h7qu0/i_have_53k_chatrestriction_ama_wont_flame_u/ + +http://archive.is/Mdmu5#selection-2482.0-2482.1 + +If you are being harassed on runescape or league of legends by someone who hates white people and non-Muslims you know who is behind it now +--- 14896345 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +more from the Iraqi Sunni Arab pedophile who pretends to be a Turk while insulting non-Muslims and white people. + +https://www.unddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/5dc3f7/kemalist_revolution_summed_up_in_one_picture/ + +https://www.removeddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/5dc3f7/kemalist_revolution_summed_up_in_one_picture/ + +[–]forgotten4ever-44 points1 years ago +"arabic alphabet" just to cuck themselves and use the latin alphabet, never seen a nation that got cucked so hard by one man, those people, whom use the latin alphabet massacred turks in war after war and this guy labels it as "trash" + +https://snew.github.io/r/Turkey/comments/4t4b1r/stop_the_hatred_between_arabs_and_turks_there_is/d5ehud4/ + +>Id say saudi arabia , uae, qatar kuwait are paradise compared to turkey, but alright, again the stupid kemalist is letting his stupidity go off. + +He referred to Turks as Mongoloid barbarians. + +http://archive.is/wITXe#selection-1330.0-1330.3 + +[–]Iraqi_shitposter (deleted by user)1 point1 years ago +Good, you filthy mongoloid inbred barbarians. + +This Iraqi pedophile pretended to be a Turk or part Turkmen in real life, on reddit and on twitter. On real life he admitted on 4chan. + +http://archive.li/ajcw6#selection-3176.0-3176.3 + +On twitter + +http://archive.li/thwxL#selection-4439.0-4439.45 + +on powerbot + +https://archive.is/Z5lRW +https://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/1311965-you-know-you39re-14-years-old-when/?do=findComment&comment=16022844 + +He loves calling people retarded since he can't control his emotions. + +https://archive.is/TwEJq +https://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/1290697-breaking-news-multiple-simultaneous-terrorist-attacks-in-paris/?do=findComment&comment=15678575 +--- 14896349 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896345 +The suicidal mentally ill Iraqi Arab Sunni Muslim pedophile in Sweden samefagging with three of his accounts forgotten4ever, Iraqi_shitposter and Uracil_Goblin (verified) talking about his fantasies with a kpop star + +http://archive.is/r8MLK + +Uracil_Goblin asked where to find the drugs modafinil and adderal in Sweden + +http://archive.is/ddRRp +His barooo50 account cheered on the Taliban for killing an American soldier. + +http://archive.is/J5osY#selection-2591.0-2613.105 + +http://archive.is/uxnsv + +https://reddit.dynu.net/user/Uracil_Goblin/ + +>Uracil_Goblin +>But gentlemen, you lost all crusades except one and your king had to kiss the turk's feet before losing all of Anatolia + +http://archive.is/iLngw + +https://reddit.dynu.net/r/truerateme/?after=t3_6wm4y7 + +>[19m] your average swedish male in 2050 god willing(imgur.com) +>Uracil_Goblin + +http://archive.is/9OC2g + +https://boreddit.com/t/greentext/2016/3 + +>anon gets exposed (imgur) +>score: 995 comments: 15 Uracil_Goblin + +https://archive.is/J0dvv + +http://i.imgur.com/U4aFaj8.png + +https://pholder.com/u/uracil_goblin + +https://snew.notabug.io/r/greentext/comments/529b17/anon_is_in_trouble/ + +https://www.unddit.com/r/greentext/comments/529b17/anon_is_in_trouble/ +https://www.removeddit.com/r/greentext/comments/529b17/anon_is_in_trouble/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/comments/529b17/anon_is_in_trouble/ +https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/comments/5bunvx/anon_gets_exposed/ + +https://www.unddit.com/r/greentext/comments/5bunvx/anon_gets_exposed/ +https://www.removeddit.com/r/greentext/comments/5bunvx/anon_gets_exposed/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/50bzkc/honestly_not_even_sure_what_to_title_this/ + +https://www.unddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/50bzkc/honestly_not_even_sure_what_to_title_this/ +https://www.removeddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/50bzkc/honestly_not_even_sure_what_to_title_this/ +--- 14896352 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +More of the Iraqi Sunni Arab pedophile in Sweden's lunacy and where he said he wanted to rape children and be a pedophile. He accuses other people on reddit of being molested by their fathers, obsessed with rape and being pedophiles as projection of his own desires so he was probably molested by his father which is why he is a suicidal pedophile incel now. + +http://archive.is/yjf4p + +http://archive.is/AVIoS + +http://archive.is/jciGq + +https://archive.is/2ujf4 + +The Iraqi pedophile pretended to be able to speak Russian and visit Chechnya on powerbot. He only knows a few words and has never been to Chechnya. He accuses other people of pretending to speak languages they can't which is more projection by him. He isn't even good at Arabic and he read wikipedia to get better at it. He is obsessed with Shamil Basayev and Japanese porn actresses. He accuses others of having a 4chan pass so that means he probably brought one since he admitted to spending all his free time on 4chan, reddit, league of legends and runescape. +--- 14896358 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896352 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +More of the Iraqi Sunni Arab pedophile in Sweden's lunacy and where he said he wanted to rape children and be a pedophile. He accuses other people on reddit of being molested by their fathers, obsessed with rape and being pedophiles as projection of his own desires so he was probably molested by his father which is why he is a suicidal pedophile incel now. + +http://archive.is/yjf4p + +http://archive.is/AVIoS + +http://archive.is/jciGq + +https://archive.is/2ujf4 + +The Iraqi pedophile pretended to be able to speak Russian and visit Chechnya on powerbot. He only knows a few words and has never been to Chechnya. He accuses other people of pretending to speak languages they can't which is more projection by him. He isn't even good at Arabic and he read wikipedia to get better at it. He is obsessed with Shamil Basayev and Japanese porn actresses. He accuses others of having a 4chan pass so that means he probably brought one since he admitted to spending all his free time on 4chan, reddit, league of legends and runescape. +--- 14896361 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896358 +The Iraqi once posted here on years ago 4chan that he got exposed in school for listening to K-pop. He reposted it to reddit as uracil_goblin. He said his height is 6 feet 6 inches and he was born in 1998. + +https://removeddit.com/r/greentext/comments/5bunvx/anon_gets_exposed/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/comments/5bunvx/anon_gets_exposed/ + +https://removeddit.com/r/greentext/comments/5bunvx/anon_gets_exposed/ + +https://snew.github.io/r/greentext/comments/5bunvx/anon_gets_exposed/ + +http://i.imgur.com/U4aFaj8.png + +https://pholder.com/u/uracil_goblin/ + +He whined on reddit and powerbot how girls wouldn't date him. + +https://www.deeperdates.com/single-post/2017/05/11/Asked-girl-out-and-got-rejected-or-did-I + +https://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/1307363-got-the-girls-snapchat-accidently-screenshot-a-pic-now-she-blocked-me/ + +https://www.removeddit.com/r/translator/comments/24maiv/i_need_help_japanese_to_english/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/24e42p/me_16_m_with_my_21_f_how_can_i_get_contact_with_a/ + +https://www.removeddit.com/r/relationships/comments/32lv47/me_17m_will_meet_a_girl_i_like_tomorrow_how_do_i/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/32lv47/me_17m_will_meet_a_girl_i_like_tomorrow_how_do_i/ + +He is obsessed with the Chechen insurgent leader Shamil Basayev. The last eight versions archived of his twitter account AntiMajoosUnit show Shamil Basayev in the header. + +http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/AntiMajoosUnit + +his orgasm123456789 on powerbot is obsessed with Shamil Basayev. + +http://archive.is/P9gIq#selection-1525.73-1525.115 +--- 14896368 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896358 +>>14896361 +On reddit the Iraqi's SUPHAMSULU2 accounted attempted to live vicariously through Chechen mujahideen and threaten white people that Chechens would conquer them. + +https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6lt33y/rhapas_randomly_starts_arguing_about_whether_or/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6lt33y/comment/djwzw3n/ + +https://www.unddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6lt33y/rhapas_randomly_starts_arguing_about_whether_or/ + +https://archive.is/udQRF + +https://www.reveddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6lt33y/rhapas_randomly_starts_arguing_about_whether_or/ + +https://archive.is/ZcX77 +--- 14896372 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896358 +>>14896361 +>>14896368 +This Iraqi pedophile admitted he knows the sister of the runner Saad Al--saudi who appeared in the news. (Saad and his sister are in Kristianstad). + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7942563/#q7945605 + + +https://www.kristianstadsbladet.se/kristianstad/man-har-bara-sett-bilden-och-rubriken-och-delat-artikeln/ + +https://www.eniro.se/saad+nabil+odeh+al-saudi+g%C3%A4rds+k%C3%B6pinge/107175365/person + +https://mrkoll.se/person/Khalda-Aouda-Nzal-Al-Saudi-Nsbychaussn-88-Kristianstad/mUxamUxapuhQcYfrulaTulaTkyqRaQcYfrkyqRaQsqqkcYfrcYfr + +https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/falsk-bild-smutskastar-ensamkommande + + +The sister of Saad is Shams Nabil Odeh Alsaudi. + +https://www.hitta.se/shams+nabil+odeh+al+saudi/g%C3%A4rds+k%C3%B6pinge/person/~SSlwUJJJ7 + + +This is where the Al-Saudi family lives and Shams works in the beauty parlour business + +https://www.allabolag.se/981212IKGI/al-saudi-shams-nabil-odeh + +https://www.infobel.com/sv/sweden/al_saudi_shams_nabil_odeh/kristianstad/SE101545105/businessdetails.aspx + + +https://www.hittahundvakt.se/Hundvakt/1507/Kristianstad/hundvakt + +https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/3404644 + +https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/3404516 + +Anton Olsson Aasen och Shams Al-Saudi tävlade för Parkskolan. Foto: Magnus Mosén/SR Kristianstad + +Anton Olsson Aasen and Shams Al-Saudi competed for Parkskolan. Photo: Magnus Mosén/SR Kristianstad +--- 14896375 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896358 +>>14896361 +>>14896368 +>>14896372 +See this >>14896372 on Saad al-Saudi. This is a picture of Shams al-Saudi from 2010 in Kristianstad, Sweden. + +https://www.hittahundvakt.se/Hundvakt/1507/Kristianstad/hundvakt + +https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/3404644 + +https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/3404516 + +Anton Olsson Aasen och Shams Al-Saudi tävlade för Parkskolan. Foto: Magnus Mosén/SR Kristianstad + +Anton Olsson Aasen and Shams Al-Saudi competed for Parkskolan. Photo: Magnus Mosén/SR Kristianstad +--- 14896379 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896358 +>>14896361 +>>14896368 +>>14896372 +>>14896375 +Any Assyrian Christians and Coptic Christians in Sweden here should see what he wrote in his Twitter accounts to Assyrians and Copts and Middle Eastern Christians in general. He said all prostitutes in Egypt are Copts and prostitutes in Iraq are Assyrians. Is he brave enough to talk shit like this in public in Sweden? + +https://archive.is/vLPsT#selection-4835.0-4835.184 + +>>Umar @AntiMajoosUnit · 1h1 hour ago + +>>Replying to @velosmey +>>Are you Estonian or Greek? Because I remember back in Iraq you were lower than dirt, the cheapest prostitutes would be Assyrian or Chaldean. Just like the cheapest are Coptic in Egypt. +>>1 reply 0 retweets 1 like + +https://archive.is/Cgizv#selection-3263.0-3263.143 + +https://archive.is/cPvgC#selection-3983.0-3983.94 + +>>Umar @AntiMajoosUnit · 1h1 hour ago + +>>Replying to @arathebeautiful >>@velosmey +>>How old are you? Go to Egypt, ask any Egyptian who the whores are, they’ll all tell you copts. +>>1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes + +https://archive.is/5unGI#selection-1886.1-1935.5 +https://imgur.com/a/Mpw64 + + +https://archive.is/8mAgM +https://archive.is/uZu1E#selection-9971.0-10010.1 +http://archive.is/rjyXv#selection-1799.0-1799.95 +https://archive.is/5unGI + +http://archive.is/jciGq + +http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/QutaybabnMuslim + +https://archive.is/https://twitter.com/QutaybabnMuslim/with_replies + +http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/QutaybabnMuslim/media + +http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/AntiMajoosUnit + +https://archive.is/https://twitter.com/AntiMajoosUnit/with_replies + +http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/AntiMajoosUnit/media + +And Hazara Shias in Sweden as well, see what he wrote about Hazaras. + +https://archive.is/pUo2B + +shia + +shiite + +shiites +--- 14896383 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896379 +Why does this Iraqi Sunni Muslim Arab incel child pornographer pedophile in Sweden accuse all his enemies on reddit, powerbot and 4chan of being raped by their fathers? + +http://archive.is/jciGq + +https://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/1286444-i-am-having-a-date-tomorrow-monday-any-tips-to-treat-m39lady-with-utter-respect/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-15612104 + +>actually since youre a swedish homofag who probably is getting penetrated by his dad as im writing this, tell me where you are in sweden, lets meet up, im in karlskrona atm with a couple of friends (rip you never had those) we're doing some business for my uncles company so im free for 4 days, lets meet up anywhere in sweden and ill make sure to leave you crippledd + +https://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/1283493-why-are-there-no-longer-porn-naked-pics-being-posted-here-like-the-good-old-days/?page=4&tab=comments#comment-15567687 + +>sweden sure does have good welfare, thats why white trash like you are even alive +https://www.removeddit.com/r/europe/comments/4tjs1e/german_train_axe_attacker_had_is_flag/d5iqksy/ +>[–]forgotten4ever +>This article is an absolute scandal and dailyshit should be sued for using it, I know the guys sister and they live in Kristianstad sweden +http://archive.is/yTXb5 + +>Yeah try to suck the western dick some more. You sure enjoyed when the French raped your nation and sold your women on the streets like cattle, it's after them you are getting your "liberation" from right? +>Seems to be some sort of Stockholm Syndrome with Tunisians, their nation was raped, colonized and hundreds of thousands slaughtered by the west and now they have this mental retardation of them trying to be them for some reason. +>Oh and you are talking about prostitution and how Muslims are the awful ones? + +>What is your obsession with rape and pedophilia? Did your father or uncle rape you as a baby? Are your parents usually having sex with you? That's some unhealthy obsession. +--- 14896387 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896358 +>>14896361 +>>14896368 +>>14896372 +>>14896375 +>>14896379 +>>14896383 +Shia Muslims and Middle Eastern Christians all recognized this Iraqi Sunni Muslim Arab pedophile's accounts on twitter when he was exposed. That Jordanian Christian AbuUrdon and Shia AnarchioKhomeini were harassed by this pedophile for a long time under his AntiMajoosUnit account. + +https://archive.li/l7DYN +--- 14896398 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896387 +Iraqi Sunni paedophile's Twitter posts. +https://archive.is/cKEYC + +>Until Isis appears, then you will shit yourselves simultaneously as you are crying. + +https://archive.is/CnZnY + +>Cnn? I am from the middle east you dumb shit. Care about your subhuman living standards rather than us. And I laugh as rich Gulf Arabs go to Latin America for cheap prostitution. + +https://archive.is/qBZbZ + +>Mehdi is an equal piece of shit. He’s defending ASSad in Syria due to his natutal allegiance to Hezbollah/Iran. (He’s Shia.) + +https://archive.is/xUCgQ + +>You are viewing things through Russian propaganda, I have visited and seen Syria and Syrians with my own eyes. You haven’t ever spoken with a Syrian, so please shut the fuck up and enjoy your miserable lives in the favelas. Syria won’t be a shithole like your country. + +https://archive.is/odV6f + +>Every Palestinian knows that you savage barbarians will detonate and shit over the Al-Aqsa mosque if you ever get your hands over it. Ask any Palestinian, they will cringe at the mention of Iran. + +https://archive.is/iHTYq + +>You do kinda look like the maids in the Gulf though. Gulf people don’t deal with your shit though, they are succesful people who don’t care about people from third world shitholes. + +>I’d too be pissy 24/7 if my skin looks so + +https://archive.is/T7ezL + +>Massacre Sunnis, install spies, terrorize them, rape their women and children. Nobody buys your shit. The ”oppressio” of the so called minorities just started appearing after Russia entered the war, strangely! + +https://archive.is/6VTMr + +>Palestinians themselves spit at any Shia, mention shias around them ans they will instantlyn change. Nobody buys your shit. + +https://archive.is/wNYcF + +>Muslims are the ones fighting so you still can pray to Allah and live a Muslim life without fearing for your life. + +>Not kaffir tyrants that Shia rats will support because of their hatred of Sunnis +--- 14896405 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896358 +>>14896361 +>>14896368 +>>14896372 +>>14896375 +>>14896379 +>>14896398 +Saad al-Saudi's father. Saad has a mercedes at the house. + +https://www.ratsit.se/19551015-Nabil_Odeh_Nazal_Al_Saudi_Gards_Kopinge/d3QOoOcB9t2gtfmLns-NCZzK-SMqoJyQqbYpOqppjm8 + +More from the Iraqi Arab Sunni Muslim Islamist child molestor. + +https://archive.is/I3KoS + +>Most kuffar women have had sex with at least 5 men by 20 so no thank you. I’d visit a prostitute if I wanted a cheap woman. + +https://archive.is/wSiN0 + +>Let’s see what Pakistanis have achieved: Nukes,MBT’s, jet fighters, respectable special forces. Let’s see what the inbred Christi*ns have achieved: inbred, incest, problems. You are not worth the urine of a Pakistani. + +https://archive.is/6oeUj + +>The filth supporting ASSad from the west know they are powerless at home, as Muslims freely practice their religion. So they rage and laugh at Muslims being massacred in Syria. But this picture fills every single one of them with rage, and me with joy. :) #assad #russia #saa + +>@TexanAnglo How do you feel? Is the rage building up? + +https://archive.is/A2BiV + +>There we go, got you triggered. Stay shit. Muslims are invading Spain once again :) + +https://archive.md/iBbDT +>I’d tie you by the neck and make you my alawi dog :) You alawi scum are the biggest cowards. Remember when rebels fucked you up so you had to sell out Syria to Putin? + +https://archive.is/WAz4N + +>You are dogs, don’t you remember your status? + +https://archive.is/GCamW + +>Since when was it allowed for a Muslim to align themselves with the kuffar over Muslim fellows? Don’t try to tell me anything when you contradict the fundamentals of Islam. + +> Sides with a kaffir against Muslims in Syria. No matter what you do you’re still a hypocrite munafiq. +--- 14896411 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896405 +Saad Alsaudi majored in science. + +http://web.archive.org/web/20160204192251/https://www.kristianstadsbladet.se/kristianstad/man-har-bara-sett-bilden-och-rubriken-och-delat-artikeln/ + +>Saad Alsaudi, 19, lade idrottskarriären på hyllan efter en knäskada. Nu pluggar han sista året på naturvetenskapliga programmet i Kristianstad. + +>Saad Alsaudi, 19, put his sports career on hold after a knee injury. He is now in his final year of the science program in Kristianstad. + +The Iraqi paedophile majored in science. + +This Iraqi pedophile incel confessed his plans to drug and date rape an Asian woman on the incel forum. + +https://archive.is/6GNuS#selection-2861.1-2861.61 + +>I majored in scientific studies and was a wannabe lab-rat, i'm sure I could read a bit about benzos and try to figure something out. Alternatively I could pretend to have troubles sleeping and get some prescription drugs. + +MyDolores Uracil_Goblin + +http://archive.is/pUo2B#selection-1244.0-1244.1 + +>Ill just go to either Vietnam or Thailand this summer and i'll see how many asian whores i can fuck, they want a strong 6'4 buff arab guy, not some pathetic scrawny small little chink, just accept it, you are the caucasian mans playground, we come to have sex with your wives, beat them, urinate on them, defecate on them and your mouths are smiling wide and accepting it. + +>buff arab guy + +>Afghan refugees especially the ladyboy hazaras are among the weakest and most feminine boys I have ever seen, no DOUBT. Sad! The brave pashtun stay in their homelands and defend it against the invaders whilst the hazaras go to Sweden and dress like the feminine boys they are. + +He posted his photo on this pedophile account + +https://archive.is/5unGI#selection-1895.0-1935.5 + +This is his pedophile subreddit run by his other account + +http://archive.is/YvHfh +--- 14896422 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896358 +>>14896361 +>>14896368 +>>14896372 +>>14896375 +>>14896379 +>>14896383 +>>14896387 +>>14896398 +>>14896405 +>>14896411 +This is Shams al-Saudi which the Iraqi Arab Sunni Muslim Islamist terrorist child molestor says he knows in Kristianstad, the sister of Saad al-Saudi. >>14896275 >>14896372 >>14896375 >>14896405 >>14896411 + +>>14535528 >>14535571 >>14535578 >>14535608 >>14535614 + +>>14483897 >>14483894 >>14483873 >>14483870 >>14483608 + +https://www.hittahundvakt.se/Hundvakt/1507/Kristianstad/hundvakt + +https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/3404644 + +https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/3404516 + +Anton Olsson Aasen och Shams Al-Saudi tävlade för Parkskolan. Foto: Magnus Mosén/SR Kristianstad + +Anton Olsson Aasen and Shams Al-Saudi competed for Parkskolan. Photo: Magnus Mosén/SR Kristianstad +--- 14896427 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896358 +>>14896361 +>>14896368 +>>14896372 +>>14896375 +>>14896379 +>>14896383 +>>14896387 +>>14896398 +>>14896405 +>>14896411 +>>14896422 +Saad Al-saudi سعد السعودي + +Shams al-Saudi شمس السعودي + +https://twitter.com/HolmstrmAnders/status/518863561150701569 + +https://www.hitta.se/saad+nabil+odeh+al+saudi/g%C3%A4rds+k%C3%B6pinge/person/hzT2ww---v + +https://www.ratsit.se/19960610-Saad_Nabil_Odeh_Al_Saudi_Gards_Kopinge/ENP_tUf6YdZykSI4YNURsynuMgAzZjcpde9IuOKPLUk + +https://www.eniro.se/saad+nabil+odeh+al-saudi+g%C3%A4rds+k%C3%B6pinge/107175365/person + +https://www.birthday.se/Saad-Nabil-Odeh-Al-Saudi/G%C3%A4rds-K%C3%B6pinge/1996/a0c846f526 + +https://www.merinfo.se/person/G%C3%A4rds%20k%C3%B6pinge/Saad-Nabil-Odeh-Al-Saudi-1996/bvtpe-4qun5 + +https://mrkoll.se/person/shams-nabil-odeh-al-saudi-johanna-gadds-vag-1-gards-kopinge/mUxacYfrmUxacYfrmUxamUxabTAQmcYfrkyqRaQkyqRaQdYQacYfr + +https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/falsk-bild-smutskastar-ensamkommande + +https://www.ratsit.se/19960610-Saad_Nabil_Odeh_Al_Saudi_Gards_Kopinge/ENP_tUf6YdZykSI4YNURsynuMgAzZjcpde9IuOKPLUk + +https://www.face.book.com/1539513582931193/posts/en-man-i-kristianstad-anklagas-nu-av-en-stor-tabloidtidning-i-england-f%C3%B6r-att-ha/1799557496926799/ +--- 14896430 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896358 +>>14896361 +>>14896368 +>>14896372 +>>14896375 +>>14896379 +>>14896383 +>>14896387 +>>14896398 +>>14896405 +>>14896411 +>>14896422 +>>14896427 +al-Saudi family was fined for breaking laws + +https://docplayer.se/34214306-Information-om-inkomna-delgivningar.html + +> 9 MHN 2016/51 Tillsynsärende klagomål på enskilt avlopp, förbud med vite, Gringelstad 13:18 MHN Miljö- och hälsoskyddsavdelningen (mha) mottog den 17 april 2015 ett klagomål på fastighetens avloppsanläggning. Enligt klagande går avloppet från slamavskiljaren till en brunn på den klagandes fastighet och sedermera vidare ut i Vramsån. Ur denna brunn kommer avloppslukt, vilket för dem är störande. Mha beslutade därför den 8 september 2015 att förbjuda utsläpp av avloppsvatten till den bristfälliga avloppsanläggningen. Den 11 mars 2016 inkom en ansökan om tillstånd för installation av ett minireningsverk. Mot bakgrund av det utsläpp av avloppsvatten som idag sker och de risker som det innebär för miljön och människors hälsa, är det befogat att med vite förbjuda fortsatt utsläpp. Tjänsteutlåtande Miljö- och beslutar att förbjuda Al-Saudi Nabil Odeh Nazal (personnr ) och Mehalhal Shola Resan (personnr ) vid ett vite om vardera kr, att från och med släppa ut spillvatten från WC och BDT till den bristfälliga avloppsanläggningen på fastigheten Gringelstad 13:18 i Kristianstads kommun. Beslutet meddelas med stöd av 26 kap. 9 och 14 och med hänvisning till 9 kap. 7 och 2 kap. 3 Miljöbalken (1998:808). Miljö- och s beslut Miljö- och beslutar att förbjuda Al-Saudi Nabil Odeh Nazal (personnr ) och Mehalhal Shola Resan (personnr ) vid ett vite om vardera kr, att från och +--- 14896436 +>>14896157 +>>14896430 +The Iraqi pedophile begged desuarchive and archived.moe to delete his photos. They are censored if you look in the archive but you can see them in the archive.is links. Google forgotten4ever, MyDolores. + +He verified his reddit account Uracil_Goblin + +He went by orgasm123456789 on powerbot forum, as AntiMajoosUnit and QutaybabnMuslim on twitter and forgotten4ever, Uracil_Goblin, MyDolores on Reddit + +He cursed Slavs, Swedes, Christians with rape threats, insults and threatened Shia, Christians, Syrian government supporters. + +Information and pictures here at this archive.is link. He defends Sunni Muslims on 4chan and curses white people. If you see a post defending Islam and denying the Armenian genocide or calling white Christian women as whores here its 99% probably him. He boasted he had dozens of accounts on reddit's defending Islam, Erdogan, Ottomans for years + +That's him in those photos. + +http://archive.is/jciGq + +https://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/1286444-i-am-having-a-date-tomorrow-monday-any-tips-to-treat-m39lady-with-utter-respect/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-15612104 + +>actually since youre a swedish homofag who probably is getting penetrated by his dad as im writing this, tell me where you are in sweden, lets meet up, im in karlskrona atm with a couple of friends (rip you never had those) we're doing some business for my uncles company so im free for 4 days, lets meet up anywhere in sweden and ill make sure to leave you crippledd + +https://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/1283493-why-are-there-no-longer-porn-naked-pics-being-posted-here-like-the-good-old-days/?page=4&tab=comments#comment-15567687 + +>sweden sure does have good welfare, thats why white trash like you are even alive +https://www.removeddit.com/r/europe/comments/4tjs1e/german_train_axe_attacker_had_is_flag/d5iqksy/ +>[–]forgotten4ever +>This article is an absolute scandal and dailyshit should be sued for using it, I know the guys sister and they live in Kristianstad sweden +--- 14896443 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896427 +>>14896430 +>>14896436 +Confessions of the Iraqi Sunni pedophile LOSER incel in Sweden. + +https://archive.is/Qmpik + +Had the suffering of an average incelmale been exposed to the world then museums and special days would be created to honor our suffering +Most people here carve a basic human right. - sex. Now, tell me, do we GET IT? Absolutely not. Every day the incelmale wakes up, he checks his Reddit inbox and keeps snoozing the clock until he barely has any time left to prepare for school/work. At his place of occupy he is tired and he goes in without anyone paying attention to him. +His clothes are the same of yesterdays but he has good hygiene and smells good. He tries making eye contact during pauses from work but what he receives is dirty looks and females simply not even looking at him at all. +He keeps on working with his task all whilst having thoughts of inflecting damage on the normies around him. When the normies get too normie-alike he brings up his phone and pretends to be texting someone so the incelmale doesn't laugh at the amount of cringe being delivered. +At lunch the incelmale sits either alone or around his peers. He has troubles eating and talking at the same time, but he tries his best to fit in as best as possible. Occasionally a curious normie will ask him what the fuck he is eating or state that the way he is eating is weird. The incelmale is powerless, he just smiles and says I don't know and keeps on eating, whilst deep down fantasizing of shoving his fork into the normies eye sockets and plucking his eyes out. +After lunch the incelmale is back to work and he is extremely tired after a long night of shitposting on his favorite forum. His eyes are red with big, dark bags. +Back home the incelmale goes to the gym to lift some weights and cry on the inside as he knows no female will ever appreciate his physique. He goes home, eats his salad along with protein and he jumps into the shower +--- 14896448 +>>14896157 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896191 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896220 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896282 +>>14896304 +>>14896314 +>>14896319 +>>14896324 +>>14896329 +>>14896333 +>>14896340 +>>14896345 +>>14896349 +>>14896358 +>>14896361 +>>14896368 +>>14896372 +>>14896375 +>>14896379 +>>14896383 +>>14896387 +>>14896398 +>>14896405 +>>14896411 +>>14896422 +>>14896427 +>>14896430 +>>14896436 +>>14896443 +https://archive.is/Qmpik + +>Fresh and clean the incelmale continues his daily routine and only hobby. He logs on Reddit/4chan and start his shitposting session. After a long time of shitposting he sees the time is 02:45 AM and he has to get up at 7 am tomorrow. +>Rinse and repeat that is the routine of the incelmale. The amount of pure-will required to survive through this life is a tremendous amount. Would any normie be in the shoes of the incelmale for a week, they would suicide. No doubt. + +http://archive.is/PLBk0 + +The Iraqi pedophile incel sent DMs to every white man he saw on reddit married to Muslim women and raged against them. He threatened to rape and kill them. He even tried to dox one. + +Reminder, the Iraqi child pornographer cannot walk away. He is eternally looking over his shoulder for all the rest of his pathetic "life" for potential dox, while he has nothing to threaten the people who know his dox. +--- 14896618 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +Arabs in Iraq. Spawn of millenia of rape by Turco-Mongols (Seljuqs, Ottomans, Afsharids, Mongol Ilkhanate, Jalayarids, Safavid Qizilbash Turkmen, Aq Qoyunlu, Qara Qoyunlu), Indo-Europeans (Persians, Armenians, Americans), Kavkazis (Georgians) and Han Chinese people. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10249882/#10252672 + +https://archive.is/FKcFz + + +Imagine being such a subhuman that both Armenians and Turks consider you filth and raped your ancestors. Assyrians, Armenians and Turks all consider Iraqi Sunni Arabs to be subhuman irredeemable filth. + +Like this subhuman Iraqi Sunni Muslim Arab Islamist who is a slave of the Turks. + +>>11886340 +Check how much Armenian DNA you have mongrel. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WV6xyqWu6A [Embed] [Open] + +https://meaningfulworld.com/our-work/un/sexualized-violence-against-iraqi-women-by-us-occupying-forces + +Iraqi Sunni Muslim Arab woman raped by American. + +Iraqi Sunni Arab girls have been raped by Hulagu's Mongols, Jalayarid Mongols,, Timur's Turco-Mongols, Shia Twelver Qara Qoyunlu Turkmen, Aq Qoyunlu Turkmen, Safavids and Ottoman Turks and Georgian Mamluks. +--- 14896648 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896618 +--- 14896683 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +Timur died while he was on his way to China and he never managed to invade China. + +Timur i Lang (Tamerlame) invaded the Middle East after his invasion of India. He slaughtered, tortured and raped his own co-religionist Sunni Muslims across Iraq and Syria. Timur's Tatar (Turco-Mongol Central Asian) Sunni soldiers gang raped Sunni Arab women and virgins girls of Iraq and Syria in their own mosques. + +This is the story of horror that the Turco Mongol conqueror Timur inflicted upon the Sunni Muslim Arabs of Baghdad, Aleppo and Damascus. His soldiers gang raped girls while their brothers and fathers were tortured and forced to watch in the mosques. + +https://archive.is/IJQD0 + +remove the . between just and paste to get the url. + +https://web.archive.org/web/20210908183250/https://just.paste.it/2kj98 + +They say the descendants of his Turco-Mongol soldiers are found among the Sunni Arab populations of those places today due to the amount of virgin girls that were violated. Iraqi Arabs are the rape children of Timur. + +All Arab women were violated and raped by Turks, Mongols, Ethiopians, Persians, Armenians etc. +--- 14896693 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +https://www.ijhssi.org/papers/vol7(3)/Version-3/G0703033642.pdf +>Iraq is the country greatly affected by Turkish terms. The dialect of Iraq during the previous centuries was influenced by the Persian, English, Sumerian and Turkish languages. Iraq, like all other Arab countries, has its own dialects which are almost identical. + +Iraqi Arab prostitutes services white men in Jordan. Allahu Akbar. Allah has decreed this الحمدلله على كل حال. الحمدلله على كل شيء + +https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/news/a1810/iraqi-refugees-prostitutes-sex/ +>The crowning irony among many of the women I met: Their best clients in Amman are American and European military personnel and contractors — the same sort of men they had worked for as translators and fixers. Now they are servicing them in a different way altogether. + +>Samara is a 23-year-old from the Diyala province in eastern Iraq. She spends several nights a week at the Cottage (or the disco at the Holiday Inn, or the Hyatt) to make enough money to last a few days. She wears short skirts, drinks, smokes, flirts. + +>Later, as she sits on the edge of the coffee table in my hotel room, it's hard to picture her as a nightclub denizen. She has long, dark hair and a round face that barely moves when she talks — her eyebrows don't furrow; her chin never stiffens. She is almost completely still, except for when she drops her head and stares at her lap. She explains that since she moved to Amman in 2006, she has slept with "British men, Americans, Egyptians, Saudis, Jordanians. God knows how many." She has been pregnant, and sold a thin gold necklace, her only piece of jewelry, to pay for the abortion. "I love children," she says. "I would love to have children someday." + + +https://archive.is/tiNq0 +>Iraqi arabs will have 70% turkish ancestry talking about we wuz babylonians like girl get your ass back to mongolia along with the other turks… +--- 14896701 +>>14896618 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +Even Saudi Arabians agree that Iraqi Arabs are the world's most raped mystery meat. The Saudi Iranic Balochi Mansur al-Balushi made this rape chart for Irakis showing how Iraqis have been raped for 2,600 years and Iraqi "Arabs" are mystery meat mongrels. And his Saudi Arab followers are cheering him, a Baluchi (Iranic) on as he insults Iraqi Arabs. You are worthless scum to Saudis + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10929965/#q10930979 + +And western journalists and historians agree Baghdad and Iraq is the most raped place on earth and Iraqis are the most raped mystery meat people + +https://archive.is/FKcFz +https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/jun/20/baghdad-iraq-psychological-toll-worlds-most-attacked-city + +>Baghdad: the psychological toll of being the world’s most attacked city + +>For more than a thousand years the population of the Iraqi capital has been subject to rape, torture and indiscriminate slaughter + +>No city on earth has been attacked as often, or as brutally, as Baghdad. Once again, the residents of the Iraqi capital are bracing for another possible invasion, with the jihadist forces of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis) less than 50 miles north of Baghdad at the time of writing. For a force that is supposed to number only several thousand, Isis gains in Iraq have taken the world by surprise, turning old certainties on their head and prompting the US and Iran to think the unthinkable and cooperate on Iraq. + +>But for the city that is next on the Isis target list, the once glorious capital of the Islamic empire, the sight of a foreign army at the gates is all too familiar. Over the past 13 centuries, Baghdad’s population has been subject to rape, torture and indiscriminate slaughter, with terrible consequences: on the city’s physical infrastructure, on religious convictions, and above all, perhaps, on the minds of the long-suffering Baghdadis. + +It's a list of everyone who raped Iraq in chronological order +--- 14896704 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +Timur's Turco Mongol soldiers mass raped and impregnated Sunni Arab girls in Baghdad, Aleppo and Damascus. + +All Arab Sunnis carry the DNA of his soldiers. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10249882/#q10252672 +--- 14896706 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +>>14896704 +--- 14896710 +>>14896194 +>>14896198 +>>14896224 +>>14896272 +>>14896275 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +>>14896704 +>>14896706 +--- 14896730 +>>14896205 +Sunnis believe Ali was the fourth Rashidun caliph and also believe in Hussein. Many Sunnis falsely claim to be Sayyid like the Turkmen Atassi family. + +Sunnis don't believe Muawiyah was bad because they believe all sahaba are good. You are the one who is confused. +--- 14897116 +Iraqi +--- 14897117 +>>14896448 +The Iraqi pedophile himself on his previous pastas typed UNHEALTHY OBSESSION and about eunuchs. + +Get a load of his pedophilia and rape. + +http://archive.is/PLBk0 + +He accuses everyone else of doing what he does. He samefags and accuses others of samefagging, he is a pedophile who was raped by his father and he accused a Tunisian atheist Foxodroid on Reddit of being a pedophile who was raped by his father after the Tunisian criticized Sunnis for sex slavery. + + +http://archive.is/yTXb5 + +>What is your obsession with rape and pedophilia? Did your father or uncle rape you as a baby? Are your parents usually having sex with you? That's some unhealthy obsession. + +DID YOUR FATHER OR UNCLE RAPE YOU AS A BABY? + +UNHEALTHY OBSESSION + + +UNHEALTHY OBSESSION + +DID YOUR FARMER OR UNCLE RAPE YOU AS A BABY? + +Search "eunuch" "Iraqi" "orgasm123456789" "Sweden" + +https://archive.is/lI22I + +https://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/1307363-got-the-girls-snapchat-accidently-screenshot-a-pic-now-she-blocked-me/?do=findComment&comment=15948043 + +orgasm123456789 +Banned + +BANNED +orgasm123456789 +Members +2926 posts + + +lmao youre the sudanese eunuch talking about your arabic being better than an iraqis, thats the joke here and the definition of being a dumb retard. +--- 14897342 +Your gift is too great for me +--- 14897344 +>>14897342 +"Your gift is too great for me" +--- 14897783 +>>14895845 +>Malcolm X (after he left Nation of Islam and became a regular Sunni) openly supported the communist party of China praising China and Mao +Citation needed +--- 14897954 +>>14896730 +>Sunnis believe Ali was the fourth Rashidun caliph and also believe in Hussein +Ali and Husayn are not important in Sunni islam. +>Sunnis don't believe Muawiyah was bad because they believe all sahaba are good. You are the one who is confused. +This is why you're retarded you contradict your own point. Obviously Timur elevated Ali and Husayn and shat on the other sahaba thus by definition he couldnt be a sunni. I think ill trust actual sunnis who faces Timur than you +--- 14898080 +>>14897954 +Timur never shat on Muawiyah. You're confusing him with his son Yazid retard, who was not a sahabi. Yazid killed Hussein. +--- 14898140 +>>14897783 +Malcolm X praised China and Mao both before AND AFTER his hajj to Mecca. + +https://nunncenter.net/robertpennwarren/items/show/101 + +He never supported Islamist retards and terrorists like Zawahiri. He support Marxist black revolutionary Mohamed Abdulrahman Babu and Zanzibar revolution against Arab rule (involving mass killings and rapes of Arabs by blacks). + +If you're an Islamist terrorist and Muslim Brotherhood supporters or Al-Qaeda supporter go kys at this point. + +You auto takfired yourself. Al-Qaeda terrorist freak Aymenn al-Zawahiri (shit and hell be upon him) praised Malcolm X as a Muslim. + +Malcolm X praised Marxists which is open kufr according to people like you. + +Since you and other Islamist retards who belong to these groups call Malcolm X a Muslim but you would call anyone else a kafir for praising Marxist communists (Malcolm X visited China himself, he praises Castro and met him) you just takfired yourself for praising a kafir and calling him Muslim. + +Go kys and entire hellfire already. Your entire ideology is a lie. +--- 14898235 +>>14898080 +Timur was known to play mind games with the Syrians where he implied he would spare them if they made an admission that was the ONLY caliph. Again I will take what actual witnesses of Timur said +--- 14898251 +>>14898235 +He said Ali was the last of the true four caliphs. Sunnis believe Ali was the rightful fourth caliph and not Muawiyah. +--- 14898683 +>>14897783 +>>14895845 +>>14898140 +Zawahiri and Bin Laden were both at this conference where Marxist Communist secular Palestinian Christian George Habash and Shia Hezbollah and secular leftist Oromo Liberation Front (including Oromo Christians) were also invited along with Muslim Brotherhood and a member of Saddam's Baathist regime (which openly supported Hindu India against Pakistan). + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Arab_and_Islamic_Congress + +The terrorist Zawahiri and terrorist Bin Laden's followers would go apeshit at any other Muslim attending a Congress with Marxist secular Christians and takfir them for it. + +Meanwhile the hypocrite Zawahiri (who is destined to hell) praises these people and attends their conferences. + +The terrorist Bin Laden's friend Turabi (Sudanese Muslim Brotherhood), who held this conference and hosted him and Zawahiri in Sudan also later said Muslim women can marry non-Muslim men. + +https://sudantribune.com/article15563/ + +https://sudantribune.com/article15743/ + +Muslim Brotherhood supported Ilhan Omar is married to a non-Muslim white man. + +The Sudanese Muslim Brotherhood regime under Omar al-Bashir also worked with Assad in Syria. +--- 14898888 +>>14898683 +Also ISIS terrorists pledged allegiance to Bin Laden and Zawahiri until 2014 so everything mentioned above applies to them too. Zawahiri gave his Malcolm X speech before ISIS left them. >>14895845 >>14898140 + +They are hypocrites and liars and auto takifired by their own standards they set on others. +--- 14900485 +Flex hard, carrot king! +--- 14900491 +>>14896710 +Arab culture +--- 14901632 +Look at all the spam in this thread. Why don't the mods do anything about this retard. Needs to be range banned +--- 14901649 +>>14895928 +How disrespectful. It's 2 billion soon. +--- 14902163 +>>14901632 +Honestly I admire his autism. I'm glad he is undefeated by mods so far, one of the most entertaining posters. +--- 14902223 +>>14902163 +He's entertaining because his seething and tears are nonstop and endless. +--- 14902236 +>>14895772 (OP) +>Muslim Brotherhood +You should not think of this as a thing Muslims actually subscribe to. There is no "brotherhood" for Muslims, rather it's a geopolitical tool for leaders to try and garner influence over the Islamic world. Egypt created it, but lost interest. +--- 14902345 +This >>14902223 is the Iraqi paedo pretending to be a third party. He won't curse Aisha. + +He gets butthurt whenever his doxxers are praised and either accuses them of samefagging (projection since he does that all the time), or tries to cope about seething (the Iraqi begged desuarchive to remove his photos and the Arab rape pastas). +--- 14902524 +The chinkspammer is a barely Chinese non-Hui ex-Muslim Southeast Asian mutt from Singapore. +--- 14902557 +>>14902524 +Lol, lmao even. + +Basically his ancestors got raped by the Northern Han and now he's still coping. +--- 14902580 +>>14902223 +>>14902524 +>>14902531 +>>14902545 +>>14902557 +All of these are the samefagging Iraqi child molester. +--- 14902586 +>>14902573 +Southern Han Chinese don't even share haplogroups with their ancestors. The Northern Han haplogroups raped in the South and the Steppeniggers raped the North. +--- 14902601 +>>14902557 +It's why he's so obsessed with interracial shit and Han patrilineality shit. + +His mental illness is compounded by him being a mongrel, a diaspora, not exactly Chinese, not exactly Southeast Asian, identityless, old parents and PTSD. +--- 14902608 +>>14902580 +Cope, only one of those posts are my (You) and I'm Mongolian. + +Calm down Anon, we are probably related anyway, I'm sure some ancestor of mine planted superior Steppe genes into your line. The vanilla Han are too timid and submissive to act the way you do. Just get a gene test, I'm certain you will have some strong C-M217 in your blood. +--- 14902753 +Hey chinkspammer incel, does Yau Jia Jun from the University of Nottingham MALAYSIA know what you're doing with his Wikipedia account? +--- 14902819 +>>14902753 +>Chinkspammer lives in White country + +Absolute fucking poetry. Always these losers that have the biggest identity crises. +--- 14903768 +>>14902608 +You're not Mongol. The Iraqi repeatedly insulted Mongols on powerbot and reddit and cried and lied about being part Turkic Mamluk when people made fun of him for Iraqis beihg gang raped by Mongols. + +https://archive.is/hrJ75 + +>iraqis were the commanders of the turks if you didnt know, filthy slav. Iraqis owned the ottoman empire and arabs were treated better in most areas than ethnic turks. + +>I am stating facts, this nicola is the son of a whore, his mother had to prostitute herself to get him into europe, even paris can confirm. His country has been raped by mongolians to turks to russians and has no history or heritage what so ever and he has the guts to even consider talking about other countries. The fact you can prove that ukrainians are inbred stupid filths is just take the chernobyl disaster, only one with an iq under 50 can do what they did, never has an accident happened in soviet, but as soon as they brought them into ukraine thats when they fucked it up. + + +https://archive.is/3M1zC + +>The mamluks defeated gengis khan and massacred his warriors, matter of fact my grandfathers mom was a turk, therefore i am part mamluk and i am very clear the superior one. the mongols fought with no honor, thats why when they came to the turks who faught using the same technique they got their ass raped. +--- 14903779 +>>14902586 +>>14902608 +Mongols were raped and enslaved by Han Chinese centuries before Genghis was born. (You're not Mongol, only a rapebaby of Hulagu). + +Han Chinese conquered and raped Mongolia centuries before the Mongol empire was founded and Genghis Khan was born. If ruling over a place means everyone in it was raped, then all Mongols are raped cross bred descendants of Han Chinese raping their ancestors. + +If Mongols ruling an area makes everyone mixed with Mongols (the Mongols conquered and raped and ruled for centuries all the way to Anatolia and Aleppo and conquered and raped Romania and Korea as well), then all off Asia from Korea to Romania to Iraq and the Syrian cities of Damascus and Aleppo are Mongol hybrids. +>>>/k/50520707 + + +>>>/k/50520718 +>China wasn't subjugated by foreigners. The non-Han dynasties were rebel subjects of preceding Han Chinese dynasties, not foreign invaders. + +>The region of Mongolia was raped and conquered by Tang dynasty China centuries before the Mongol empire existed. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10403196 + +https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/45518168 + +https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/48235048 + +>>>/k/48235048 + +>Steppe nomads like the southern Xiongnu, Jie, Di, Qiang, An lushan's rebels and the non-nomadic sedentary farmer Jianzhou Jurchens were all conquered, subjugated and deported as slaves by Han Chinese BEFORE they revolted against they Han masters to establish their own dynasties. China was never conquered by an external political entity. + + +Since conquest and rule = mass breeding and rape, all Mongols and Vietnamese are crossbred with Han Chinese genes since China ruled Vietnam for 1,000 years and ruled Mongolia for centuries under the Tang dynasty before the Mongol empire. +--- 14903789 +>>14902628 +1. Manchus aren't nomads. They are farmers. + +2. Nomads like Mongols are midgets and are darker and shorter than northern Han. Manchus are also shorter than average than Northern Han. + +3. The surname Hu originated among Han. + +>According to tradition, the Hu (胡) surname has several historical origins. First, Hu could derive from the family of Duke Hu of Chen. King Wu of Zhou (r. 1046-043 BCE) enfeoffed his son-in-law Gui Man 媯滿 (supposedly a descendant of the legendary sage king Emperor Shun) with the state of Chen (in modern Henan Province). His posthumous name was Duke Hu, and some of his descendants adopted Hu as their surname. Second, Hu could derive from two Zhou vassal states named Hu 胡, one located near Luohe (Henan Province) or another near Fuyang (Anhui Province). +--- 14903796 +>>14903789 +You forgot to tell the Turco-Mongol Iraqi rapebaby that Arabs are full of surnames like Ajami (non-Arab) and Turkish surnames like Bayraqdar and Khashoggi from centuries of Arab women getting raped and impregnated. +--- 14903814 +>>14902608 +>>14903768 +Another proof you're not Mongol (but you do carry Mongol sperm in your DNA Iraqi) >>14896379 + +Every single Mongol is sympathetic to Hazaras and hates Iraqis and boasts about raping Baghdad in 1258. + +No Mongol would defend an Iraqi cuck who attacked Hazaras here >>14896379 and Mongols themselves >>14903768 + +By the way Shia Pashtuns in Zaynabiyyun and Shia Hazaras in Fatimiyyun are killing and raping Sunni Arabs now in the Syrian civil war. + +Mongolia also took part in the American occupation of Iraq. They despise their Iraqi rapebabies. +--- 14903820 +>>14903814 +>>14903768 +>>14902608 +Arabs of Iraq were raped by Mongols for 200 years from the Ilkhanate empire to the Jalayarid state to the Timurid empire and then raped by Turks so they need to deflect their humiliations onto other peoples. + +How can such a mongrelized, humiliated people be expected to rule themselves? That's why Iraq is in the state it is in now +--- 14903827 +>>14903820 +Mongols raped Sunni Arabs but spared Christians in Baghdad. + +>To the eastern Christians the capture of Baghdad by the Mongols seemed like divine retribution. Moreover, the Mongols, whose ranks included many Nestorians, such as the Naiman Kitbuqa (to say nothing of the Georgian auxiliaries led by Hasan Brosh, the Armeno-Georgian prince of Kakhetia), consistently spared the Christian elements in Baghdad at the time of the sack. The Armenian chronicler Kirakos of Ganja writes: “At the capture of Baghdad, Hulagu’s wife Doquz-khatun, who was a Nestorian, spoke on behalf of the Christians of the Nestorian or any other confession, and interceded for their lives. Hulagu spared them and allowed them to keep all their possessions.” In fact, as Vartan confirms, at the time of the assault the Christians of Baghdad shut themselves up in a church by order of the Nestorian patriarch Makikha, and the Mongols spared both church and flock. Hulagu even gave the patriarch Makikha one of the caliphal palaces: that of the little dewatdar or vice-chancellor. The Armenian Kirakos of Ganja has spoken of the joy and even triumph of all these eastern Christians at the fall of Baghdad. “Five hundred and fifteen years had passed since the founding of this city. Throughout its supremacy, like an irsatiable leech, it had swallowed up the entire world. Now it restored all that had been taken. It was punished for the blood it had shed and the evil it had done; the measure of its iniquity was full. The Muslim tyranny had lasted 647 years." +--- 14903833 +>>14902573 +>>14902628 +>>14903779 +>>14903796 +>>14903789 +Shatuo cucks served Tang China in raping Uyghurs like proud uncle toms. +--- 14903838 +>>14902573 +>>14902628 +>>14903779 +>>14903789 +>>14903796 +>>14903833 +The Shatuo dynasties weren't founded by conquest, one Shatuo chief was adopted as prince by the Tang Emperor for helping rape and kill Uyghurs and when the Tang dynasty fell, the Shatuo just claimed to legally continue the Tang dynasty in their fief. + +The Shatuo family of Later Tang also adopted the Han Wang Congke (Li Congke) as prince and he was last Emperor of Later Tang. +--- 14903843 +>>14902573 +>>14902628 +>>14903779 +>>14903789 +>>14903796 +>>14903833 +>>14903838 +Mongols are shorter than Han Chinese. + +Mongols (Outer Mongolia) and Manchus (Beijing) are both midgets compared to Shandong Han (Shandong and most of Jilin, Heilongjiang and Liaoning are filled with Shandong Han settlers). + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country + +Genghis Khan purged tall Mongol men when he was uniting Mongol tribes. + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_against_the_linchpin + +>Genghis Khan used this brutal method against Jamukha's coalition of tribes in 1202. All male captives were forced to walk beside a wagon wheel. If their heads were higher than the linchpin (a pin inserted at the end of the axle) they were immediately executed. The wagon wheel was a large wheel used to transport yurts and other goods. This technique was probably used to preempt against revenge attacks that were common between tribes at this time. If one tribe were to attack another, there was always the possibility that there would be a revenge attack soon after. By eliminating the older males, there was less chance of a counterattack from tribes that were in perpetual conflict due to centuries of distrust and robbery. + +This picture of tall nomads are actually Kazakhs, not Mongols. Kazakhs are literally mongrel mutt rapebabies of Mongol men raping Turkic Kipchak Cuman Indo-European Caucasian women. Kazakhs have paternal Mongol Y Haplogroup C2 while they have maternal Indo-European Caucasian mtdna haplogroups. + +A Kazakh is to a Mongol as to what a Mestizo Latino Hispanic is to a Spaniard. They got their paternal ancestry from violent conquest and rape of the local women so their maternal ancestry is different but their paternal is the same. +--- 14903850 +>>14902573 +>>14902628 +>>14903779 +>>14903789 +>>14903796 +>>14903833 +>>14903838 +>>14903843 +These are ethnic Kazakhs, not Mongols who are midgets. +--- 14903853 +>>14902573 +>>14902628 +>>14903779 +>>14903789 +>>14903796 +>>14903833 +>>14903838 +>>14903843 +>>14903850 +Uyghur Y DNA. +--- 14903858 +>>14902573 +>>14902628 +>>14903779 +>>14903789 +>>14903796 +>>14903833 +>>14903838 +>>14903843 +>>14903850 +>>14903853 +The genetic makeup of modern Uyghurs was changed by the Mongols and Manchus via rape. + +https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28595347/ + +>The Uyghur people residing in Xinjiang, a territory located in the far west of China and crossed by the Silk Road, are a key ethnic group for understanding the history of human dispersion in Eurasia. Here we assessed the genetic structure and ancestry of 951 Xinjiang's Uyghurs (XJU) representing 14 geographical subpopulations. We observed a southwest and northeast differentiation within XJU, which was likely shaped jointly by the Tianshan Mountains, which traverses from east to west as a natural barrier, and gene flow from both east and west directions. In XJU, we identified four major ancestral components that were potentially derived from two earlier admixed groups: one from the West, harboring European (25-37%) and South Asian ancestries (12-20%), and the other from the East, with Siberian (15-17%) and East Asian (29-47%) ancestries. By using a newly developed method, MultiWaver, the complex admixture history of XJU was modeled as a two-wave admixture. + +>a more recent wave occurred around 750 ya, which is in agreement with the estimate from a recent study using other methods. + +https://twitter.com/KerimTurkistani/status/1433224648221605888 + +>Uyghurs have many different looks, we have been invaded and so on many times in history. You should study our genetics and history more. + +modern Sunni Uyghurs hate Genghis Khan for being a kafir (infidel) who killed and raped their ancestors in the Qara Khanid Khanate. + +https://twitter.com/KerimTurkistani/status/1432827323754057734 + +>He was a Kafir so + +(Medieval Buddhist Uyghurs were conquered by the Chagatai Khanate later and destroyed) +--- 14903870 +>>14902608 +>>14903814 +>>14903820 +Mongols from Mongolia also hate Sunnism. Any discrimination Kazakhs face in Mongolia is largely due to their religion. + +No Mongol would defend an Iraqi rapebaby (who has Turco Mongol blood from Hulagu and Timur's rapes of Iraq) who insulted Mongols and Hazaras repeatedly and tried to larp as Mamluk Turkic to cover his butthurt over Iraqi Arabs getting raped by Hulagu. +--- 14903887 +>>14902608 +>>14903768 +>>14903814 +>>14903827 +>>14903870 +What Mongols, Armenians, Georgians and Han Chinese did to Iraqi Arab Sunni girls in 1258. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12333794/#q12336094 + +First time millions of Arab Sunni women had orgasms. +--- 14903898 +>>14896182 +>>14896188 +>>14896275 +>>14896448 +Iraqi Arab Sunni Muslim pedophile rapist incel in Sweden with a fetish for Vietnamese girls whose been spamming anti-Vietnamese posts. + +MyDolores forgotten4ever AntiMajoosUnit + +https://archive.li/x9UfB +http://archive.is/pUo2B +>Ill just go to either Vietnam or Thailand this summer and i'll see how many asian whores i can fuck, they want a strong 6'4 buff arab guy, not some pathetic scrawny small little chink, just accept it, you are the caucasian mans playground, we come to have sex with your wives, beat them, urinate on them, defecate on them and your mouths are smiling wide and accepting it. + + +>We were never colonized but actually betrayed by the west, had the arabs not revolted then the europeans could never get an inch into our lands. +>While you look at vietnam, burma, laos etc which were essentially rape gardens for the white man for centuries. And now it still is. You are the weaklings and the pathetic people with inferiority complex. You are not an atoms worth the bravery of the arabs. + +https://unddit.com/r/pics/comments/6ny1ih/topless_lebanese_girls_burn_an_isis_flag_nsfw/dkdr4oz/ + +https://removeddit.com/r/pics/comments/6ny1ih/topless_lebanese_girls_burn_an_isis_flag_nsfw/dkdr4oz/ + +>[–]forgotten4ever-1 points11 months ago +>"Arab women" You mean christians? Most arabs do not even consider christians to be arab, so nice try, dirty fetischists, go back to your thai and vietnamese women to have sex with, our women wont even bulge one inch to you filthy sex monsters. + +http://archive.is/r7r6P#selection-3099.0-3103.185 +--- 14903940 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +>>14896704 +>>14896706 +>>14896710 +White European Christian Latin Roman Catholic Portuguese men have sex with Iraqi Arab Sunni Muslim women in Dubai like Huda Kattan. + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huda_Kattan + +>Huda was born on October 2, 1983 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma,[10] as one of four children.[11] Her parents are both from Iraq.[10] The family later moved to Cookeville, Tennessee, and then to Dartmouth, Massachusetts.[12] Huda attended the University of Michigan–Dearborn where she majored in finance.[10][11][13] + +>In 2006, Huda moved to Dubai with her father because he accepted a job opportunity as a teacher in the emirate.[11][12] A few years later, Huda moved to Los Angeles, where she studied makeup.[9][10][12][14] Among her clients were celebrities such as Eva Longoria and Nicole Richie.[10] Huda then returned to Dubai where she became employed by Revlon as a makeup artist.[9][11] In April 2010, upon the advice of one of her sisters, Huda started a beauty-related WordPress blog which she named "Huda Beauty" on which she would post makeup tutorials and tips.[10][11][12][13][15] + +>Huda met her now-husband, Chris Gonçalo, of Portuguese origin, in high school. The couple moved to Dubai in 2006, and welcomed their first child, Nour Gisele, in 2011.[11] Huda is Muslim.[13] One of Huda's sisters is her business partner, Mona; while another sister manages Huda's social media, Alya.[12] She holds both Iraqi and American citizenship. +--- 14903943 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +>>14896704 +>>14896706 +>>14896710 +>>14903940 +Iraqi Arabs in Baghdad were mass raped 8 times over the past 1000 years by foreign non-Arab invaders. + +Baghdad is the world's most raped city. + +Baghdad was sacked 6 times between the Mongols in 1258 and British in 1917. Timur (Tamerlane), Ottomans, Safavids and Nader Shah all sacked and raped in Baghdad severely. +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad +>Siege of Baghdad (1258), Mongol conquest of Baghdad +>Siege of Baghdad (1401), by Tamerlane +>Capture of Baghdad (1534), Ottoman–Safavid Wars +>Capture of Baghdad (1624), Ottoman–Safavid Wars +>Siege of Baghdad (1625), Ottoman–Safavid Wars +>Capture of Baghdad (1638), Ottoman–Safavid Wars +>Siege of Baghdad (1733), Ottoman-Persian Wars +>Fall of Baghdad (1917), World War I +http://listverse.com/2018/01/15/10-terrors-of-the-tyrant-tamerlane/ +https://www.deseretnews.com/article/605591/Uzbekistan-turns-conqueror-into-hero.html +https://owlcation.com/humanities/40-Facts-about-Tamerlane-Timur-the-Lame + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Baghdad_(1258) +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur#Campaigns_in_the_Levant +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_Baghdad_(1534) +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_Baghdad_(1624) +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_Baghdad_(1638) +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Baghdad_(1733) +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Baghdad_(1917) +--- 14903945 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +>>14896704 +>>14896706 +>>14896710 +>>14903940 +>>14903943 +The Saudi royal family and Jordanian royal family marry off Arab princesses to white men while they support slaughter of Muslim Brotherhood incels. + +Saudi Arab princess married Danish man and was impregnated by him. + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahda_bint_Saud_Al_Saud#Personal_life + +>Fahda bint Saud has one child, a son named Abdulaziz. She divorced from his father, Baron Abdullah Kurt Bergstrøm, a Danish national who changed his first name to Abdullah when converting to Islam. Abdullah Bergstrøm died in 2000.[15] + +>Princess Fahda was born in 1953.[1] She is daughter of King Saud.[2] Her mother is Jamila bint Assad bin Ibrahim Al Mirhi from Latakia, Syria.[1] + +https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%81%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A9_%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%AA_%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF_%D8%A8%D9%86_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%B2_%D8%A2%D9%84_%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF + +فهدة بنت سعود بن عبد العزيز آل سعود ولدت في الرياض 15/01/1951، هي كاتبة وناشطة ورسامة سعودية. والدتها الأميرة جميلة مرعي والتي ترجع أصولها إلى منطقة اللاذقية ب سوريا. هي الأخت الوسطى لسبعة أشقاء يُعرفون بآل خالد نسبة للأخ الأكبر الأمير خالد بن سعود بن عبد العزيز آل سعود رئيس الحرس الوطني سابقا. هي أول أميرة سعودية تتخرج بشهادة البكالوريوس من خارج السعودية (كلية بيروت للبنات في بيروت عام 1975). تلقب بأميرة التوحد. + +الأسرة +لها من الأبناء عبد العزيز عبد الله برغستروم، مواليد 21/12/1981. + +No Saudi princess married ugly Iraqi men +--- 14903951 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +>>14896704 +>>14896706 +>>14896710 +>>14903940 +>>14903943 +>>14903945 +Sunni Muslim Arab Princess Haya who had an affair with a British man. + + +The British bodyguard who cucked the Dubai Emir with Princess Haya. + +https://meaww.com/news/dubai-ruler-caught-estranged-wife-bodyguard-during-surprise-visit-report +https://www.weeklyblitz.net/world/princess-haya-was-caught-red-handed-in-the-bedroom-with-her-british-bodyguard/ + +https://www.weeklyblitz.net/news/who-fathered-princess-hayas-son/ + +https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/dubai-rulers-wife-fled-to-uk-after-becoming-too-close-to-british-bodyguard_uk_5d1f4210e4b04c4814124cb9/ +https://nine.com.au/article/b4062598-a3e2-467d-a793-9a874a21403c +https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/runaway-princess-haya-bint-al-hussein-was-too-close-to-british-bodyguard-swp9rbs8x + + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10249882/#q10253154 + +Saudi Arab girls on social media are literally drooling over white Christian man Cameron Herrin while the Saudi men are insulting Irakkkis and calling them rapebabies of Mongols Turks and Persians. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/11451201/#q11452428_1 + +Hind Qahtani & Dana Aloutaba + +https://www.instagram.com/hindalqahtani91/ + +https://www.albawaba.com/entertainment/it-true-hind-al-qahtani-jailed-san-diego-charges-exploiting-her-children-1429923 +--- 14903964 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +>>14896704 +>>14896706 +>>14896710 +>>14903940 +>>14903951 +A Sunni Muslim Gulf (Khaleeji) Arab Princess who ran away from her kingdom of Bahrain to marry a balding baby face non-Muslim white military grunt + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meriam_Al_Khalifa +>Meriam bint Abdullah Al-Khalifa (born 1980) is a member of the Bahraini Royal House of Al-Khalifa. She is best known for fleeing her family and native Bahrain to the United States to elope with US Marine Lance Corporal Jason Johnson, who was, at the time, stationed in Bahrain as part of a counter-terrorism unit providing security for expatriate Americans. After she was smuggled into the United States with help from Lance Corporal Johnson and being threatened with deportation by United States Customs, she was permitted to stay and apply for asylum, claiming that she feared honor violence by her family in retaliation for fleeing her country and entertaining a romantic relationship with a non-Muslim. Her story was featured heavily in the American press, including The Oprah Winfrey Show, and was turned into a television movie. + +>Al Khalifa is one of five daughters of Shaikh Abdullah bin Ibrahim Al Khalifa a distant cousin of Bahrain's current king Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa.[3][4] Meriam is properly titled as "Shaikha", not "emira" or "princess", as even the sons of the Bahraini king are not styled that way. + +>In January 1999, she met Lance Corporal Jason Johnson, a United States Marine and a Mormon, at an "Americanized" shopping mall in Bahrain.[5] They exchanged whispered phone calls and clandestine meetings until being spotted by a member of the Bahrain Royal Guard, who informed her mother of the illicit relationship. After being forced to end the relationship and forbidden to see Johnson, they continued their relationship by secretly exchanging letters through a jewelry store employee at the mall for eleven months, until Johnson's tour of duty was scheduled to end. +--- 14903966 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +>>14896704 +>>14896706 +>>14896710 +>>14903940 +>>14903943 +>>14903945 +>>14903951 +>>14903964 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamila,_the_Algerian + +>Chahine's film paints the Algerian struggle against French occupation through one of many lenses of its gendered narrative, focusing a large portion of the film around the rape and torture of Djamila Bouhired[5] + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_Algerian_War + +>Another example of why testimonies of rape and torture of the women combatants in Algeria do not come to light can be seen in the story of a mujahida named Louisette Ighilahriz. When Ighilahriz "published her story admitting to having been tortured and raped during the Algerian War, she received little support from other mujahidat."[3] This can be accounted for by the fact that revealing such violence, especially of a sexual nature, is considered a taboo and reliving such trauma can be extremely difficult for survivors of sexual violence. +>Therefore, few women combatants are prepared to publicly admit personal stories of the torture and rape that took place during the war. Further, by revealing accounts of sexual violence and subjugation during the war, mujahidat would be seen as victimized women rather than courageous fighters who were absolute members of the ALN.[3] + +https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/16/jacques-verges + +>Jacques Vergès obituary + +>Controversial French lawyer + +>He fell in love with his client Djamila Bouhired, who was tortured and sentenced to death for her role in planting bombs in Algiers cafes. Eventually she was freed, and in 1963 became his second wife, though they later separated. + +>Vergès is survived by his son, Jacquou, from his first marriage; and a daughter, Meriem, and son, Liess, from his marriage to Bouhired. +--- 14903975 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +>>14896704 +>>14896706 +>>14896710 +>>14903940 +>>14903943 +>>14903945 +>>14903951 +>>14903964 +>>14903966 +French did this in Algeria yet an Algerian woman would rather sleep with French Hapa and black men than ugly Iraqi Arabs. +--- 14903983 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +>>14896704 +>>14896706 +>>14896710 +>>14903940 +>>14903943 +>>14903945 +>>14903951 +>>14903964 +>>14903966 +>>14903975 +https://archived.moe/his/thread/10249882/#q10252747 + +>>10252747 + + +>>10252747 +>>10252754 +>>10252705 +>>10252738 +>>10252742 +England conquered Malaysia, Iraq, Egypt, Sudan and the Arab Emirates of the Persian Gulf. + +British forces were outnumbered by Gulf Arabs but slaughtered the Gulf Arab forces with a 1,000:5 casualty ratio, destroyed their navy and subjugated them. + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_in_the_Persian_Gulf#1819%E2%80%931820_expedition + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_vessels_for_the_British_campaign_against_the_Al_Qasimi_pirates_(1819-20) + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Gulf_campaign_of_1809 + +This is the world record for fastest British victory and not a single British death. The British destroyed the Arabs. + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Zanzibar_War + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwait-Najd_War + + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Urabi_revolt + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Egyptian_War + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aden_Expedition + +And look at the casualty ratios when Napoleon invaded Egypt. Circassian Mamluks used Bedouin Arabs as meatshields. + + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_Cairo + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Pyramids +--- 14903988 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14903983 +American rape of Iraqi Arab Sunni Muslim girls + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7840912#p7841665 + +>>7841665 + +https://archived.moe/his/thread/7840912#p7853312 + +>>7853312 + +Napoleon butchered Bedouin slaves of Circassian Mamluks. + +>During the time of Napoleon Bonaparte’s and the French conquest of Egypt, Muslim women were taking off their Hijabs in a sexual manner to seduce the French. Then the streets of Egypt were filled with Muslim women with their French boyfriends. + +>Muslim men were already mad that Napoleon was taxing them to death to fund his own empire. But seeing their Daughters and wives proudly parading around with the French soldiers set them off. Then the Muslim men started a revolt, but it ended in failure because Napoleon brutally suppressed it by bombing Mosques and executed every Muslim who was involved in the revolt + +27:05 explains it all + +https://youtu.be/lyS_1JE6Qns [Embed] + +Why was Napoleon so wild? + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Aleppo_(1400) + +>In 1400, Timur's forces invaded Armenia and Georgia, then they took Sivas, Malatya and Aintab. Later on, Timur's forces advanced towards Aleppo with caution, where they tended to construct a fortified camp each night as they approach the city. The Mamluks decided to fight an open battle outside the city walls. After two days of skirmishing, Timur's cavalry moved swiftly in arc shapes to attack the flanks of their enemy lines, while his center including elephants from India held firm.[1] Fierce cavalry attacks forced the Mamluks led by Tamardash, governor of Aleppo, to break and flee towards the city gates.[2] Afterwards, Timur took Aleppo, then he massacred many of the inhabitants, ordering the building of a tower of 20,000 skulls outside the city.[2] + +>After the sack of Aleppo, Timur's forces went south where they took Hama, along with nearby Homs and Baalbek,[3] until they reached Damascus which was also sacked after defeating Mamluk forces led by Nasir-ad-Din Faraj. +--- 14903995 +>>14896618 +>>14896648 +>>14896683 +>>14896693 +>>14896701 +>>14896704 +>>14896706 +>>14896710 +>>14903940 +>>14903943 +>>14903945 +>>14903951 +>>14903964 +>>14903966 +>>14903975 +>>14903983 +>>14903988 +History of European Christian males marrying Middle Eastern Princesses + +Sunni Muslim Arab Princesses or women who married or had affairs with Christian white men in history for centuries. +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Ruete + +>Emily Ruete (30 August 1844 – 29 February 1924)[2] was born in Zanzibar as Salama bint Said, also called Sayyida Salme,[3] a Princess of Zanzibar and Oman. She was the youngest of the 36 children of Sayyid Said bin Sultan Al-Busaid, Sultan of Zanzibar and Oman. She is the author of Memoirs of an Arabian Princess from Zanzibar. + +>While living in Stone Town she became acquainted with her neighbor, a German merchant, Rudolph Heinrich Ruete (born 10 March 1839; died 6 August 1870) and became pregnant by him. In August 1866, after her pregnancy had become obvious, she fled on board the British frigate HMS Highflyer commanded by Captain [Thomas] Malcolm Sabine Pasley R.N. and was given passage on his ship to the British colony of Aden. There she took Christian instruction and was baptised prior to her marriage at Aden on 30 May 1867. Nonetheless, in a later letter to her sister, she avoided eating pork and dreaded attending church, stressing that she remained Muslim in secret.[4] She had given birth to a son, Heinrich, in Aden in December 1866; he died in France en route to Germany in the summer of 1867.[5] + +This is the Muslim princess's autobiography. + +https://archive.org/details/memoirsanarabia00ruetgoog/page/n11 + +https://archive.org/details/memoirsanarabia00stragoog/page/n9 + +Her descendants with the Christian German man still live in Florida in the US I've heard. +--- 14904000 +>>14903995 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Servaty +>Philippe Servaty is a Belgian[1] Walloon journalist who formerly worked for Brussels-based newspaper Le Soir.[2] While in Morocco from 2002–05, he engaged in sex with over 80 Moroccan women, promising to take them to Belgium.[3] Before leaving for Belgium, he asked them for sexual photos as souvenirs and photographed them in poses that could be seen as degrading. They included ejaculating on the face of a veiled woman and having another woman kneel, bound, and gagged while he urinated on her.[3][4] After returning to Belgium, he published the photos on the internet under the pseudonym, 'Belguel' and included captions such as, "There is no better drug than to ejaculate on the veiled face of a woman." "These sluts are so naive. If you promise to marry them and take them along with you to Brussels they do whatever you ask" and “I met her walking down the street in her djellaba. A few minutes later, the fucking bitch did everything I wanted. Miracles do happen, even in a Muslim country!”.[2][3][5][6] +>At least one of the women filed a complaint to the police in Morocco, after a CD-ROM of the pictures began circulating in marketplaces in Agadir.[3] The police arrested her, as well as many of the other women pictured, as posing for pornographic photos is a crime in Morocco.[3][7][8] At least two of the women attempted suicide while in prison, and several have disappeared, either in hiding or murdered by their families in honor killings.[3][7] Moroccan authorities asked Belgium to press charges against Servaty.[3] Belgium declined, as the photos are not illegal under Belgian law.[3][7] He may face charges for making anti-Islamic statements, a crime under Belgian and European Union laws.[3] Additionally, Moroccan authorities have stated that he will be arrested if he returns to Morocco; he had previously been arrested there for possession of pornography. Due to the scandal, Servaty resigned from Le Soir.[2][4] +--- 14904002 +Arabs (tribal) in Qatar and Yemen AND Turkic Crimean Tatar Nogai nobility (Mansurskiy family from Mangyt, Idegey bey) have Han Chinese Y chromosome O-M175. Results from Qatar, Yemeni and Crimea in this list. + +https://familytreedna.com/public/o3?iframe=yresults + +Han Chinese general Guo Kan was governor of Baghdad after the sack and mass rape of Baghdad in 1258 which included him and 1,000 Han Chinese troops. + +There's a Mongoloid Han Chinese O3 Y haplogroup found among tribal Arabs in Qatar. It's carried by a Chinese royal family. + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O-M175#O-M268_(O1b) + +>O-F993 Found in Beijing, Shandong, Jiangsu, Fujian, Taiwan, the Philippines, Hazaras, and Qatar[1][12] + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O-K18#Subclade_Distribution + +>Found in Han Chinese, Taiwan plains tribes, Vietnamese, , Dai, Filipinos, Koreans, Japanese, West Kalimantan, Hazaras, and Arabs (Qatar). TMRCA of Han Chinese, Dai, Vietnamese, and Japanese members estimated to be 13,700 [95% CI 11,300 <-> 16,300] ybp.[1] + +>Analysis of DNA extracted from a tooth from what are believed to be the remains of Cao Ding shows that he belonged to this clade. The researchers also found that the Y-chromosome of Cao Ding matches those of self-proclaimed living descendants of Cao Cao who hold lineage records dating back to more than 100 generations ago.[5] Cao Cao laid the foundation of Cao Wei, one of three major states that succeeded the Han Dynasty of China. + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O-M268#Phylogenetic_Trees + +>O-CTS10887 Found in China (Han, Dai), Thailand (Phuan, Tai Yuan, Thai), Vietnam, the Philippines, West Kalimantan, Qatar, Hazara, Japan, Korea + +Qatari tribal Arabs got a Mongoloid East Asian Han Chinese paternal Y haplogroup from Han sperm squirting into tribal Arab pussy. + +Only way for that to happen (O getting into Arabs) is Arab women fucking non-Arab males. + +Sunni Arab porn star Dana Al-Otaiba + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/11451201/#q11451244 +--- 14904040 +>>14904002 +https://twitter.com/StonedOnQat/status/1176068400751054848 + +And i’m always amazed at saudi banat in America sleeping with Jonathan and Tyrone. Worry about your makhaneet + +https://twitter.com/walyed90/status/1558884581188800512 + +Bro their women come to London take their hijabs off and get fucked + +https://twitter.com/walyed90/status/1558923153774084096 + +See I can’t speak about what happens in the gulf but I can only speak about what I see infront of me happening in London and other parts of the UK when Saudi women visit + +https://twitter.com/StonedOnQat/status/1558888916588998656 + +Same in amercia their men take it too +--- 14904046 +>>14904002 +>>14904040 +Arab girls shaking their booties in the "land of tawheed". More concerts with Saudi girls throwing knickers and panties at kuffar non-Arab singers are going to happen again thanks to MBS. + + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/11451201/#q11451244 + +Saudi women softcore p*rn + +https://twitter.com/Tspoon100/status/1274989469460987904 + +Why are you entertaining her? She's a qa7ba. There's loads of Saudi girls like her IN KSA. You should see the ones here in London who run away from home. Virtually prostitutes lol. I know for a fact Saudi and Saudis have disowned you so lose the patriotism. + + +More sexy Saudi b*tches on tiktok +You who*e you steal all of yemens cloths music poetry and even our cuisine. But it’s okay us yemenis take away your virginity and jobsRolling on the floor laughingFace with tears of joyFlexed bicepsFlag of Yemen saudi woman are the biggest sl*ts in the entire worldFace with tears of joy come to London bahrain and usa and you will see +--- 14904068 +>>14902601 +Don't forget he's a sexually frustrated incel with 0 hope for a gf. + +>>14902753 +That's a school in Malaysia. +--- 14904084 +>>14902601 +>>14902753 +>>14904068 +>>14902524 +Ask these to curse Aisha. "They" won't because they are the same ugly Iraqi paedophile incel in Sweden. +--- 14904107 +Don't try to change the topic away from your people Iraqi. + +Your people are the most raped slaves in the world. + +Russians, Iranians, Hazaras (Liwa Fatimiyyun) and Pashtun Shia Turi tribesmen (Liwa Zaynabiyyun) behead, crucify, burn alive and drill holes into Sunni Arabs in Iraq and Syria and fuck your women. You are slaves of Aryans and Turco-Mongols. +--- 14904193 +>>14904107 +You are in Sweden impotently raging on 4chan while Russians, Iranians, Pashtuns and Hazaras control your countries and fuck your women. Iraqi Sunni prostitutes in Jordan service western non-Muslim men + +Saudi Arabia is now reestablishing relations with Assad and Iran and supports Russia and China. + +You miss prayers for 4chan. You are an ugly, powerless impotent creature. You will never be like Shamil Basayev. +--- 14904200 +Your spamming has literally zero effect on others you mentally ill ugly mongrel from Southeast Asia. + +The only thing you're accomplishing is accelerating your mental illness LMAO. +--- 14904209 +>>14904193 +--- 14904219 +>>14904209 +90% of people on 4chan celebrate your people getting sarin gassed and slaughtered like pigs by Hazaras, Pashtuns, Iranians and Russians. + +You spoke about your PTSD and impotent rage on reddit and Twitter on everyone cheering Assad gassing Islamist terrorists. + +Your people will always be killed, raped and occupied by foreigners until the end of time. +--- 14904224 +>>14904219 +--- 14904230 +>>14904224 +--- 14904256 +>>14896282 +>>14903768 +This is what Mamluks did to Arabs. + +Turkic and Circassian Mamluks treated Arabs (both Arab Bedouin tribals and Arabized Arabic speaking peasants) as chattel, torturing, punishing, amputating, blinding and killing them if they dared to anger Mamluks. Mamluks could kill Arabs without retribution. + +The descendants of Mamluk Circassian, Turkic Kipchak and Georgian men fucking Arab Sunni women live on in Iraq, Egypt, Syria in the Arab Sunni populations. +--- 14904489 +>>14896173 +I honestly think chinkspammer is just a bot. +--- 14904569 +>>14904489 +He's far too dynamic to be a bot, I've had realtime arguments with him and earlier in this thread he recognised that I "praised" him. He's just an extremely dedicated e-warrior. +--- 14904784 +>>14904107 +И тyт Aхмeд пoнял чтo вoeвaть зa ИГИЛ eмy нe cильнo-тo и нpaвитcя +--- 14904974 +>>14902573 +>>14903779 +>>14903789 +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9469475/#9469715 + +Y chromosome confirms it's the same as the original Han 3,000 years ago. + +Han Chinese have the same paternal Y chromosome haplogroups as 3,000 years ago and even further back since the Neolithic. Unless barbarian women came and mass raped Han men and added maternal admixture, Han are the same as ancient China. + +Y Chromosomes of 40% Chinese Descend from Three Neolithic Super-Grandfathers + +https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0105691 + +Ancient DNA Reveals That the Genetic Structure of the Northern Han Chinese Was Shaped Prior to 3,000 Years Ago + +https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0125676 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235620438_Ancient_DNA_of_Emperor_CAO_Cao%27s_granduncle_matches_those_of_his_present_descendants_a_commentary_on_present_Y_chromosomes_reveal_the_ancestry_of_Emperor_CAO_Cao_of_1800_years_ago + +The Manchu-Jurchen paternal C2 subclade haplogroup is competely absent from Han Chinese men. It's only found in Manchus, Mongols and other non-Han ethnic minorities. + +https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4418768/ https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Chuan-Chao_Wang/publication/269876995_Y_Chromosome_of_Aisin_Gioro_the_Imperial_House_of_Qing_Dynasty/links/551cf6240cf2909047bcb445/Y-Chromosome-of-Aisin-Gioro-the-Imperial-House-of-Qing-Dynasty.pdf + +>We reasoned that the events leading to the spread of this lineage might have been recorded in the historical record, as well as in the genetic record. The spread must have occurred after the cluster’s TMRCA (∼500 years ago, corresponding to about a.d. 1500) and, most likely, before the Xibe migration in 1764. Notable features are the occurrence of the lineage in seven different populations but its apparent absence from the most populous Chinese ethnic group, the Han. +--- 14904980 +>>14904974 +Han people have zero Manchu Y chromosomes. + +https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1285168/ + +We reasoned that the events leading to the spread of this lineage might have been recorded in the historical record, as well as in the genetic record. The spread must have occurred after the cluster's TMRCA (500 years ago, corresponding to about A.D. 1500) and, most likely, before the Xibe migration in 1764. Notable features are the occurrence of the lineage in seven different populations but its apparent absence from the most populous Chinese ethnic group, the Han. + +https://isteve.blogspot.com/2005/10/does-genghis-khan-have-rival-as.html + +UPDATE: Chris Tyler-Smith emails to confirm that the Mighty Manslayer is still #1: + + +The Qing chromosome was not found at all in the Han samples we looked at, and this makes a big difference to predictions of its total number. If we make the assumption that its real frequency in the Minority populations is the same as our measurement (about 5%) and that it is really absent from the Han, the total number of carriers in the world would be a little over one and a half million, about one-tenth of the Genghis Khan chromosome. Still quite impressive for such a recent and relatively peaceful expansion. + +http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2005/10/genetic-legacy-of-manchu.html + +https://peaceandjustice.freeforums.net/thread/514/genghis-khan-genetic-legacy + +https://af.booksc.eu/book/18342973/b900f1 + +https://johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/genetics/china/xue_2005_manchu_y_chromosomes.html + +https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707633941 + +https://hobbydocbox.com/Genealogy/85261480-Recent-spread-of-a-y-chromosomal-lineage-in-northern-china-and-mongolia.html +--- 14904983 +>>14903779 +Han Chinese conquered and raped the Xiongnu nomads in Mongolia during the Qin dynasty and Han dynasty and conquered and raped the Gokturk Khaganate and Khitan Mongolic nomads in Mongolia during the Tang dynasty, centuries before the Mongol empire. + +Han Chinese in the Ming dynasty conquered and raped Jurchens/Manchus and ruled them for 200 years taking Jurchen eunuchs like Yishiha and concubines. + +Chinese conquered and raped Mongolia in the Qin dynasty, Han dynasty and Tang dynasty, long before the Mongol empire ever emerged and before Genghis was born. + +Han Chinese conquered and raped nomadic empires, Vietnam and Korea multiple times. Korea was conquered by the Han and ruled as the four commanderies and Vietnam was ruled for a millennia and the Qin dynasty, Han dynasty and Tang dynasty all raped the nomads in Mongolia. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/pHt-lhMjXJvRH6pAAr2uOw/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/Vu-PXrGG73bCbuyM8Ibb6Q/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/naOxYW9AkfHZHjVshZlZ2A/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/qdoW12q9DD_dNvh95UaE_g/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/mx00dcPWJm9teliGMnkfrw/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/aJYKiIksnWKkAcVNkgbh3w/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/nfgBvHWuNQv_NoHJxNB76A/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/N4IhdgqiHOUe9kyuo0KVLg/ + +the first nomadic monuments in Mongolia are steles of butthurt about how China conquered and enslaved them + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/K-WuVFsrHmLCgl6kJ46sWw/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/D_8eCaQRwrjUyhP7TqOiew/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/nz89bbmUZWYmn67R2zm0GA/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/WsCQx3zR9L_onMBsdvqY1g/ +https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/F57HIHuYmGA_iuWylbTvJg/ + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/14384109/#q14385989 + +The Tang dynasty butchered nomadic Mongolic Khitan men and distributed their women and chidren as slaves to their officers and vassals. diff --git a/his/14896175.txt b/his/14896175.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c0d54ac742fb1c5e1043baf3406ff1c75d0c302d --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14896175.txt @@ -0,0 +1,216 @@ +----- +--- 14896175 +How did Spain manage to conquer the entire Aztec empire with only a few hundred men. +--- 14896177 +>>14896175 (OP) +They did it with tens of thousands of Indian allies. +--- 14896193 +>>14896177 +including one of the main three cities of the aztec empire and being allied to nearly everybody surrounding the lake +--- 14896279 +>>14896175 (OP) +Better technology with a side of european diseases +--- 14897892 +Clever people. +--- 14897966 +Proto-mexcrements can't fight +--- 14897969 +good strategy + Cortes ego +--- 14897972 +>>14896175 (OP) +250.00 tlaxcallan warriors. M*xicas seethe to this day. +--- 14898203 +>>14896175 (OP) +>How did Spain manage to conquer the entire Aztec empire with only a few hundred men. +Theres books written about the process but basically the same thing can be said about many wars. +Lenin conquered the russian empire with a dozen of his buddies +--- 14898211 +>>14897972 +More interesting to me is why after the aztec defeat the other indios didnt just took over the city. Why did they just allow the spaniards to boss over them? +Might have been a reign of terror type of order, where indios enforced the spaniards rule. +--- 14898221 +>>14896175 (OP) +Europoids were like walking biological weapons with all the new foreign diseases they brought from the old world. +--- 14898307 +>>14896175 (OP) +Aztec may have been rich but it was a small territory like Portugal small +--- 14898374 +Spaniards were basically 2000 years ahead of Aztecs in military development. + +It might sound un-impressive but their swords vs clubs covered with obsidian blades is a huge difference. + +They also had a few guns, better armor, horses, military tactics. + +All things considered every spaniard was worth at least 6 native soldiers. 150 spaniards could easily slaughter 1000 natives. +--- 14898597 +>>14896175 (OP) +They merely mimicked what their Moorish rapefathers did in Iberia. +--- 14898629 +>>14898211 +It didn't matter. More Spaniards would have shown if Cortes failed. Once they got a base in Hispaniola, It was over for the natives +--- 14898670 +>>14896177 +>>14896193 +That's even more based. Sun Tzu-tier shit; fighting wars with troops that aren't yours. +--- 14898685 +>>14896193 +Why do zoomers all believe in the whole "the spanish got allies because the aztecs were meanies" narrative when the second most important native ally of the spaniards were themselves Aztecs who were the second most powerful member of the Aztec Triple Alliance and who switched sides literally just because they were pissed at Montezuma interfering in their succession crisis a few years earlier? +--- 14898738 +>>14898374 +>horses, military tactics. +these two are basically what made them win +--- 14898742 +>>14896175 (OP) +Racial superiority. +--- 14898749 +>>14898742 +ANE is superior to European farmers, so no. +--- 14899047 +>>14898749 +Cope, iberian bull is superior to any race/animal in the planet. Turbochads like our president 500 years ago would have breed thousands if not tens of thousands of virgin indians in question of months. +--- 14899124 +>>14896177 +>>14896193 + +False. + +Spaniards had to defeat the Txacalans 3 TIMES in very cruenty battles before Txacalans decide to unite with the Spaniards to defeat the Aztecs. In these 3 battlets thousands of txalancans were killed by the 300 Spaniards and that is why they decided to join because they thought the Spaniards were invincible. + +If the Txacalans were so decisive, how they did never try to defeat the aztecs by themselves after the centuries they had been oppresed by them?? If they were so decissive why they were never able to defeat the aztecs for centuries?? + +Spaniards went to the code of the Aztec Empire. The txacalans did almost nothing at first. After they saw the Spaniards kidnapping Moctezuma and making him prisoner, they went to seek revenge against the aztecs for the centuries of oppression. + +Txacalanas, despite their numbers, were the 1% of the impact in the defeat. 99% of the victory has to be credited to the 300-400 Spaniards. + +And Spaniards played in a away house. In a tropical weather where powder was almost unusable because of the humid tropical weather. +--- 14899128 +>>14899124 +*went to the core. +--- 14899138 +>>14898629 +>would have +What did actually happen? +--- 14899190 +And a few Spaniards also defeated the Incas and other empires without help, showing that they did it by their own bravery and smartness. + +The very same people that later during the 1500s-1600s ruled the fields of Europe as the unbeated Tercios making many European powers to surrend to them in many battles. Totally undefeated for 150 years and a major power for 300 years across Europe. + +The same people that did whatever they wanted in the Mediterraneo as the Almogavares. Our current king is King ot Athenas because the Almogavares defeated all the tribes there. +--- 14899321 +>>14899190 +Ok so explain what actually happened after the aztecs were defeated +--- 14899391 +>>14899124 +>If the Txacalans were so decisive, how they did never try to defeat the aztecs by themselves after the centuries they had been oppresed by them?? If they were so decissive why they were never able to defeat the aztecs for centuries?? +>the aztecs for the centuries of oppression. +The Aztecs had been an empire for less than a century by the time the spanish arrived and were fighting the Tlaxcaltecs for less than half of that time, and the Tlaxcaltecs were "losing" to the point of being "oppressed" for far less time than even that. They did in fact soundly defeat the Aztecs in battle several times before (the poor state of Tlaxcala when the spanish arrived was more because of Aztec trade embargos in a deliberate attempt to starve them out rather than military defeats) and they didn't destroy them simply because they were fighting a defensive war in their own turf rather than helping out a foreign army in getting rid of them once and for all. +--- 14899437 +>>14899190 +>And a few Spaniards also defeated the Incas and other empires without help +The Inca Empire wasn't conquered without help either, after Atahualpa got kidnapped, the spaniards swiftly allied with rebellious andean ethnic groups and northern Inca nobles who had previously sided with Atahualpa's rival during the preceding civil war, groups like the Chachapoya and Chancas, the latter even getting their own Coat of Arms for their role during the conquest. +And which other empires do you have in mind exactly? The spaniards had Tlaxcaltecs and other Nahua allies with them in just about every other war against other mesoamerican states and empires, they had andean allies during their wars against the Mapuches in South America as well. The modern state of Guatemala and an Salvadorean ethnic group called the Pipil both have Nahua names given to them by Tlaxcaltecs allies of the conquistadors who got there. +--- 14899494 +>>14899391 +For less than a century? Prove it. + +Anyways the actual names of the tribes does not matter. 300 years earlier X tribe was oppressing Y tribe. The same people basically with the same ethnicity or cultural background, just different names. People that diverged 400-500 years earlier and funded different groups. So, the “aztecs” could have been oppressing the same groups with different names for 400 years. + +>>14899437 +“After Atahualpa got kidnapped. For that to happen, if it was so easy, nobody did it before. You had to have bravery and smartness. It seems the other tribes lacked it. + +Conclussion, the other tribes almost had no significance in the result. 98% of the merit was Spaniards. + +Why the oppressed tribes did not have success for centuries? If it was just kidnapping the chief…then why they did not do it? + +Again, it was a massive merit for those few hundred Spaniards going to a totally different world, absolutely unknown, and going to the core of centuries-old empires and submitting them in a few months. + +It is like aliens arriving on Earth and submitting half the world in a few days. Some retards would align with the aliens but this does not mean that these retards were decisive. +--- 14899601 +>>14899494 +>For less than a century? Prove it. +The Aztec Triple Alliance was founded in 1428, before that the Mexicas of Tenochtitlan existed as a minor city-state in the middle of Lake Texcoco, they were vassals of the larger Tepanec Empire, which they eventually toppled with the help of several other indigenous states, including the Tlaxcaltecs who would later become their enemies. The two other city-states of the alliance were likewise Tepanec vassals. It's simply a well-estabilished historical fact. The Flower Wars against Tlaxcala began in the 1450s, and by the 1510s they were still firmly independent despite Aztec attempts at subduing them. +>Anyways the actual names of the tribes does not matter. +Of course it does, and Tlaxcala wasn't a "tribe", it was a well-organized state whose history was recorded after the conquest, that specific period of Central Mexican history isn't some shadowy web of guesswork about the status of tribals, we have plenty of concrete information on it, written by both spaniards who met and interacted with those people and their descendants. +>After Atahualpa got kidnapped. For that to happen, if it was so easy, nobody did it before. You had to have bravery and smartness. It seems the other tribes lacked it. +The Inca were very efficient in stamping out dissent, they went as far as banning entire ethnic groups from owning weapons and doing soviet-style ethnic group relocation. And it was a very specific set of circumstances that led to Atahualpa getting captured, doesn't really apply to the locals. +>Why the oppressed tribes did not have success for centuries? If it was just kidnapping the chief…then why they did not do it? +>Again, it was a massive merit for those few hundred Spaniards going to a totally different world, absolutely unknown, and going to the core of centuries-old empires and submitting them in a few months. +Both of the major empires conquered by the spaniards were less than a century old though. +--- 14899840 +>>14899601 +Again, they are the same people in the same area with different names. + +Just like in Spain there was the celts, the iberians, the basques. Then Hispania Romana, then the Visigoths and Suevi, then the moors in the half south, then Castilla, Leon, Aragon, Navarra. + +The same people with different names and different empires. I am sure the aztecs (or their previous names) were oppresing other tribes. The issue here is that the oppresed never tried to defeat the aztecs or did not have success until the Spaniards arrived there and id it in a few weeks. So, this is the decisive factor. +--- 14899902 +>>14899840 +Except that as i said, we know exactly what the people who would later become the Aztecs were doing before the empire the spanish conquered was a thing, that is being a mid-tier city-state that was subordinate to another, they were not fighting the Tlaxcaltecs, whose history and status at the time is also fairly well known. +--- 14901037 +fddfg +--- 14901054 +>>14899124 +What are you doing trying to argue about the conquest of Tenochtitlan when you don't even know how to spell Tlaxcala? stupid mongoloid faggot retard +--- 14901395 +>>14898374 +Why was the entire America continent so inferior technologically? Is it just that their cultures were so oppressive that it was impossible for people to think in the ways necessary? +--- 14901437 +Firstly, the OP pic is both extremely inaccurate and low image quality. Here's a better quality image: https://www.historynet.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Emmanuel-Leutze-Painting-of-the-Battle-of-Tenochtitlan-MH-May-2022.jpeg though the accuracy is still dogshit: The metal armor/helmets are from decades later, most only had gambeson and the Aztec there are depicted like NA native americans instead of, you know, actual Aztec forces with armor and the right ornaments. The architecture is also a mix of different Maya architectural styles, and without any paint, rather then Aztec + +Pic related is more accurate but still has incorrect Spanish armor + +To actually address the question, the obvious answer is they didn't, because: + +A: The entire Aztec Empire was not conquered across the events you're describing, a handful of cities in the Valley of Mexico were, including Tenochtitlan. After Tenochtitlan's fall, many Aztec subject states ceded to Spanish authority, but many also didn't + +B: There was more then a few hundred men involved. Even if you're exclusively counting Europeans, there were a few thousand Conquistadors involved across the entirety of the Cortes Expedition: Cortes initially had hundreds of men with him (maybe approaching 1000), but also hundreds of auxiliaries ranging from slaves to cooks and attendants, and over the course of the expedition would get additional hundreds of Conquistadors and auxiliaries, most notably from Panfilo de Narvaez's forces. He never had more then 1000-1500 with him at most at any one time, but IIRC over the whole expedition there would have been maybe 3000~ conquistadors and more then that in auxiliaries + +And of course, the elephant in the room is that there were also over 100,000, quite possibly over 200,000 soldiers and auxiliaries from local Mesoamerican states working with Cortes JUST over the course of the final invasion of the Valley of Mexico/the Siege of Tenochtitlan, and additional thousands in points before then. + +1/? +--- 14901448 +>>14896175 (OP) +>guns +>germs +>and steel +--- 14901509 +>>14896175 (OP) +Their military doctrine / technology / tactics were far beyond what the Aztecs had ever faced +The empire and surrounding regions were weakened by the diseases the Spaniards brought with them +They managed to defeat and/or co-opt tribes who weren't exactly fond of the Aztec culture dominance (see Flower Wars) +--- 14901794 +>>14897966 +You will never have a stable border +--- 14901811 +>>14896175 (OP) +>only a few hundred men +This is like the 10th time this myth has been regurgitated. +Even a wikipedia article would inform you that the Spanish became allies with thousands of natives. +--- 14902363 +aasdad +--- 14902652 +>>14896175 (OP) +Superior weaponry I guess +--- 14902834 +>>14899124 +they were decisive as Spanish assets, not as conquering forces since that were the Spanish themselves +--- 14903071 +>>14896175 (OP) +Because the Holy Ghost was with them +--- 14903075 +>>14901811 +So the 100 spaniards used divide and conquer strategies to come out on top, that still means spain only utilised a 100 men for the conquest, unless youre telling me spain paid these natives as mercenaries? +--- 14903087 +>>14903075 +No because Cortez actually had like a 1000 spanish guys with him by the end of the whole ordeal +--- 14903199 +>>14899124 +>In a tropical weather where powder was almost unusable because of the humid tropical weather. +Way to out yourself, retard. Especially after those long wall of text. +--- 14903326 +>>14903087 +wow totally different, now that's not impressive at all + +No. +--- 14904598 +AASADS diff --git a/his/14896268.txt b/his/14896268.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2aa5ca53d159a25d496bad5afb41313def1a12b5 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14896268.txt @@ -0,0 +1,518 @@ +----- +--- 14896268 +In this thread we prove Jesus existed, and that the Gospels are historical accounts of his life, and that Christianity is all real, and we shut Atheists up once and for all. Go. +--- 14896277 +Big Dick Richie broke this threads hymen +--- 14896291 +>>14896277 +Nah, he says Jesus was an archangel that got crucified in outer space by Satan and his sky demons, then was later historicized to be on earth. There's no evidence of that. +--- 14896404 +>>14896268 (OP) +You can't, also thanks for demonstrating your lack of faith. +--- 14896642 +>>14896404 +Why is faith more important than proof? Doesn't a Muslim or Mormon or Hindu's faith equally justify their religion? Don't try to "prove" them wrong with facts, it's not about proof, it's just about faith, after all. +--- 14896871 +>>14896268 (OP) +In order to prove that Jesus is the truth, you have to disprove the false prophets first, such as Paul the deceiver. +>http://www.voiceofjesus.org/paulvsjesus.html + +Paul says: +Rom.13 +[12] the night is far gone, the day is at hand. + +Jesus says: +Luke.21 + [8] Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name, +saying, . . . `The time is at hand!' Do not go after them. +--- 14896876 +>>14896871 +>t. Muhammad +--- 14896882 +>>14896876 +Islam is a false religion, as traditional Christianity is, and Muhammad is the second greatest false prophet, next to Paul. +--- 14896883 +Jesus didn't exist and finally scholars are asking why we need to assume a story abut a magic jew must have had a real jew behind it, despite this hypothetical jew leaving no traces of his existence anywhere. + +People used to think Moses excited. Then people started asking why. Then everyone else was like, yeah good question. +--- 14896893 +>>14896883 +you could say that jesus existed by never had any miraculous powers or that he never existed and it wouldn't make a difference. we can't go back to the past to see if he existed and did miracles or if he didn't exist, so what's the point in arguing. it's unfalsifiable +--- 14896914 +>>14896876 +Muhammad didn't exist either. Gee it's almost like religious cults write checks they can't cash. +--- 14896924 +>>14896914 +You don't exist +--- 14896937 +>>14896268 (OP) +If Christianity isn't true, than you are a JEW. A HEBREW JEW! You don't want to be a filthy hook nosed cut cock, do you? Ergo, Christianity is true. +--- 14896979 +>>14896268 (OP) +Jesus likes rocks. G-D too. +--- 14897012 +>>14896979 +Upon that rock Jesus built His church; Jehovah's Wiccans (JW). +Below that rock G-D stored His tabernacle; Alamo's mishkan. + +JW +--- 14897050 +>Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner: And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner? This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, +--- 14897053 +>>14896268 (OP) +God is proven by the impossibility of the contrary. It's reasonable to deduce a sentient God would want his sentient creations to know his will. That means one of the big religions is correct. Christianity is the only one that stands up to scrutiny. Thus Christianity is provably true. +--- 14897101 +>>14897012 +yo Bards, Ovates and Druids, when are Charlie's III Angels moving the Tabernacle of G-D to the Alamo, yo. +https://quran.com/2/248?translations=20,83,84,44,17,85,18,95,49,77,39,23,101,19,22,28,25,52,31,27,33 +--- 14897107 +>>14896268 (OP) +Misión San Antonio de Valero, the House of G-D +--- 14897200 +>>14896277 +Richard Carrier denies Alexander the Great existed. His opinions can be safely disregarded. +--- 14897205 +>>14896871 +Fuck off gnostic + +Galatians 2:2 +>I went because God showed me that I should go. I met with those men who were the leaders of the believers. When we were alone, I told them the Good News that I preach to the non-Jewish people. I did not want my past work and the work I am now doing to be wasted. + +Acts 9:27 +> But Barnabas took him, and brought him to the apostles, and declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way, and that he had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus. +--- 14897491 +Which period of Christianity do guys prefer, before 1000AD or after? +--- 14897527 +>>14897200 +That's a lie but cuckstains literally believe a virgin gave birth to a magic jew so what should we do with their opinions? +--- 14897529 +>>14896268 (OP) +>In this thread we prove Jesus existed + +done + +/thread +--- 14897551 +>>14897529 +Haha. Leaving aside that the shroud is a proven fraud how do you know it's the magic Jew imprinted on it since nobody knows what the magic Jew looked like. There are no physical descriptions of magic Jew and nobody who allegedly met the magic Jew wrote anything down about him. +--- 14897558 +>>14897551 +>shroud is a proven fraud + + "You see this one jewish study done on external cover of shroud againts all these others more more precisely studies that its fake -" + +this is your brain on athegayism +--- 14897565 +>>14897551 +>Jew imprinted on it since nobody knows what the magic Jew looked like. There are no physical descriptions of magic Jew and nobody who allegedly met the magic Jew wrote anything down about him. + +are you okay ? stop taking drugs +--- 14897634 +>>14897558 +Try putting paint on your face, wrapping a cloth around it then opening the cloth. The imprint is going to be stretched and distorted you dumb fuck. + +You believe a virgin gave birth to a magic Jew. You lack the intelligence to tell the difference between objective facts and your retarded delusions. +--- 14897644 +>>14896268 (OP) +God does not want Christianity proven. God wants you to rely on faith alone. God seems to have gone to great lengths to insure this, I am of the opinion that the only reason there was a natural development of the universe and life on Earth was for the sole purpose of not allowing us to retroactively prove any divine intervention whatsoever. +All claims to miraculous events and artifacts which could possibly be scientifically verified can be safely disregarded, and their promoters known to be misguided. There is no fucking way God would give us natural explanations for literally everything on earth except for perfectly preserved bodies of saints, miraculous healing, bloody statues, magic shrouds, or whatever else. It wouldn't make any sense. +--- 14897658 +>>14897529 +Hugues de Payens +--- 14897664 +>>14897634 +>Try putting paint on your face, wrapping a cloth around it then opening the cloth. The imprint is going to be stretched and distorted you dumb fuck. + +except that print cannot be replicate even with today technology + +You believe a virgin gave birth to a magic Jew. >You lack the intelligence to tell the difference between objective facts and your retarded delusions. + +you believe fish for some reason grow arms walked up to land and then transformed into monkey +--- 14897666 +>>14897658 +debunked +--- 14897675 +>>14897529 +>>14897658 +>>14897666 +Hugues de Payens or Payns (9 February 1070 - 24 May 1136) was the co-founder and first Grand Master of the Knights Templar. In association with Bernard of Clairvaux, he created the Latin Rule, the code of behavior for the Order. +--- 14897705 +1136 the Shroud of Turin date. +--- 14897721 +>>14897705 +debunked by numerous studies +--- 14897921 +What's Christianity's position on closed borders and globohomo? +--- 14897942 +>>14896268 (OP) +I imagine your IQ hovers somewhere around 80 or so +--- 14897947 +>>14897921 +as bible says you should protect your home and family againts enemies +--- 14897956 +>>14897664 +>you believe fish for some reason grow arms walked up to land and then transformed into monkey +Explaining basic evolutionary biology to a christcuck would be a waste of time. After all you believe a magic cloth proves that a virgin gave birth to a magic Jew. +--- 14897961 +>>14896268 (OP) +Druid here, Christians tongue my anus +--- 14897968 +>>14897947 +That doesn't do it for me. These people come as poor migrants in great need. As a Christian your duty is to love your neighboor and even selflessly offer them your personal belongings to comfort them. What divine law constitutes whether these people are enemies or not? And to which extent does "home" reach? +--- 14897974 +>>14897968 +There's no such divine law, Christian are supposed to sell all and become wandering preachers +--- 14897983 +>>14897974 +Ok I see. So there is no basis in Christianity about ethnostates or closed borders and territorial integrity. So that means that we need secular/poltical laws about it. +--- 14897996 +>>14897956 +>DU UH WATER TURN INTO FISH THAT GROW LEGS AND TURN INTO BIRD TUUU DUUUUU + +This is your brain on goyslop +--- 14898005 +>>14897664 +>he believes the Shroud is proven to be authentic +>he doesn't believe that genetics prove common descent +That's about the level of intellectual honesty (or just straight up intellect) that we can expect to deal with here, lol. +--- 14898013 +>>14897721 +There was only one study that supposedly "debunks" this, and that study only says that the results of their specific type of analysis aren't incompatible with dating it to the 1st century if it was kept under extremely specific conditions. +Of course you guys misinterpret that to mean that it is actually dated to the 1st century because you're low IQ. +--- 14898019 +>>14898005 +Its very simple bible talks about cloth ? Yes +Does bible talks about some fish-monkey ? No + +Does jews make it up as they did with moon landing and 9/11 ? Yes +--- 14898025 +>>14898013 +rabbi mad his silly 1 jewish study doesnt prove it wasnt Jesus +--- 14898046 +>>14897996 +>I don't understand biology. +>Therefore magic jew. +--- 14898054 +>>14898025 +You have no study proving that it is authentic, and you are going to call any study that disagrees with your opinion Jewish. You are not a rational agent. +--- 14898072 +>>14898046 +according to your biology there is 100+ henders and man can get pregnant +--- 14898093 +>>14898072 +The 100+ genders shit isn't s biological claim. It won't save you from the objective facts of DNA sequencing unless you want to deny genetics like troons do. +>Nooooooo XX chromosomes aren't real!!!!!! +^ this is basically you, christroon +--- 14898094 +>>14898019 +>worships the Jewish god +>believes Jewish mythology is an account of human history +>GRRRR THOSE JEWS +Buckbroken lmao +--- 14898122 +>>14898093 +>>14898094 +hmmmm so this is what athegayists believe in + +https://laney.edu/biology/use-of-language-in-biology-gender-and-sex/ +--- 14898136 +>>14898122 +>literally says that gender is a social construct that has nothing to do with genetics +Thanks for proving my point, christroon. Now dance for me like a good monkey and tell me how DNA is a conspiracy meant to keep trans people down. +--- 14898149 +>>14898072 +>>14898136 +These posts just prove there are no Christians on 4chan, just maladjusted social rejects addicted to outrage and online politics. You're literally a caricature of the fedora of last decade. +--- 14898157 +>>14898136 +>DNA is a conspiracy meant to keep trans people down + +why down ? atheism is only reason trannies are growing and turning your kids into zombies +--- 14898164 +>>14898149 +>These posts just prove there are no Christians on 4chan, just maladjusted social rejects addicted to outrage and online politics. You're literally a caricature of the fedora of last decade. +--- 14898171 +>>14898157 +It allows bigots to say that trans women are not women because they have XY chromosomes. Just like DNA sequencing allows bigots to say that we have a common ancestor with other animals. +In short, DNA is a bigoted scam, christsister. +--- 14898175 +>>14898164 +>further illustrating my point +GG +--- 14898186 +>>14898171 +>>14898175 + +tell me were we up to moon ? +--- 14898193 +>>14898186 +Yes. Tell me, is DNA fake, christroon? Is it just a scam that was made up to prevent you from transitioning to Christianity? +--- 14898219 +>>14898072 +No evidence religiosity follows a dumbell curve. Religiosity is negatively correlated with IQ and the difference is greatest on the most genetic subtests. In other words you believe and say stupid shit because you are genetically predisposed to be a dumbass. +--- 14898222 +>>14898193 +>DNA + +yes just because they said that this fish is your uncle doesnt mean its fact +--- 14898227 +>>14898222 +>yes just because they said men have XY chromosomes and women have XX doesn't make it right +lmao +keep on trooning +--- 14898229 +>>14898219 +>Religiosity is negatively correlated with IQ and the difference is greatest on the most genetic subtests + +enjoys your drag shows pedo another creation of atheist degenerates +--- 14898233 +>>14898227 +https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sex-redefined-the-idea-of-2-sexes-is-overly-simplistic1/ + +rip +--- 14898238 +>>14898233 +>yes my trans sisters, we can't just look at the DNA, that would be bigoted +lmao +you just can't help yourself, troon +--- 14898271 +>>14898238 +lol stance of biologists change every 2 weeks so ? + +Now go and support pregnant males +--- 14898280 +>>14898271 +The DNA science stays the same, but you don't like that because it's bigoted. +You side with the tranny changing science, I side with the stable DNA science. That's all there is to it. +--- 14898300 +>>14898280 +>tranny changing science, I side with the stable DNA science + +same thing +--- 14898312 +>>14898300 +Saying "woman is XX, man is XY" is the same thing as saying that there are 100+ genders? +Very progressive, christroon. +--- 14898339 +>>14898312 +lol not anymore thanks to atheism + +https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/im-xy-know-sex-determination-systems-101/ +--- 14898353 +>>14898339 +Yeah that is the science that you side with. I side with hard data from DNA analysis, but you prefer the trooned up version. +I don't know why you keep repeating yourself, I already understand your position. +--- 14898358 +>christianity is the last bastian of righteousness keeping degeneracy at bay +--- 14898369 +>>14898353 +>hard data from DNA analysis, but you prefer the trooned up version + +give it few years and will totally change tot the point you will get jailed for saying otherwise +--- 14898384 +>>14898369 +And you'd prefer that to be the case right now because you think the DNA science is bigoted towards Christianity, lol. Keep on trooning. +--- 14898404 +>>14897529 +>wrap a cloth around a face +>Imprint an image of where the face touches the cloth +>the proportions are as the face is seen normally when laid flat +You motherfuckers are so dumb lol +--- 14898405 +>>14898384 +>DNA science is bigoted towards Christianity + +No since its doesnt prove anything +--- 14898409 +>>14898405 +>uh sweaty actually DNA science doesn't prove that my XY chromosomes make me a man! +lmao +--- 14898429 +>>14898409 +Lol retard need dna to know difference between male and female +--- 14898431 +>>14898429 +Nice pivot, retard. Doesn't change the fact that you side with the troons on the DNA question. +--- 14898436 +>>14897053 +All of this is unsupportable bullshit. +--- 14898443 +>>14898431 +I side with God who said that trannies are satan children +--- 14898444 +>>14898443 +Yet you side with the tranny view of genetics. Curious. +--- 14898453 +>>14897529 +The shroud of Turin is a fraud, we have a confession from the guy who made it and even the fucking Vatican refuses to claim it's real. +--- 14898459 +>>14898444 +No I just point out how ridiculous your science is +--- 14898471 +>>14898459 +Yeah you think that the anti-troon science is ridiculous. I know. +--- 14898516 +>>14898471 +>whine about muh DNA +>give source of science being pro tranny +>noooooo you are pro tranny + +you okay ? +--- 14898523 +>>14898516 +The pro-tranny science is an attempt to ignore the DNA science - just like you're doing. Because you're a troon. +--- 14898550 +>>14898523 +>The pro-tranny science is an attempt to ignore the DNA science + +DNA will perish thanks to trannies atheism is pushing so much so I dont care +--- 14898566 +>>14898550 +Yeah you don't care if the tranny science replaces the real science because you prefer the tranny science. I know, I know. +--- 14898582 +>>14898566 +yeah +--- 14898584 +>>14898582 +At least you admit it, troon. That must've taken a lot of courage to come out like that. +--- 14898625 +>>14898584 +What it is about athegayists they had to talk about trannies 24/7 ? Are your brains really that rotten +--- 14898648 +>>14898625 +I’m not an atheist but this is blatant projection. You cannot disagree with Christians here without being accused of being trans +--- 14898660 +>>14898625 +You're the one who brought it up here >>14898072. Live by the troon, die by the troon. +--- 14898663 +>>14898648 +I didnt call you tranny I point out that science is passing trannies ideology +--- 14898693 +>>14898663 +The science used in DNA sequencing is anti-tranny if anything. You just don't like it because it doesn't agree with your ideology, hence why you're equivalent to a tranny. +--- 14898735 +>>14897705 +Spot on. +--- 14898746 +>>14898693 +tell me was missing link between humans and ape found ? hmmm no ? interesting +--- 14898755 +>>14898625 +Christian gaslighting is proof of a Judaic origin. +--- 14898765 +>>14897961 +this +--- 14898768 +>>14898746 +Literally don't need it, DNA proves common descent without any need for fossils. +But because you asked so nicely, here's your missing link. +--- 14898781 +>>14898768 +seeeeee this monkey skeleton prove it was actually human +--- 14898793 +>>14898781 +You're the one who asked for a missing link, lol. Why ask if you don't think that's even admissible as evidence? +And to repeat myself, the DNA evidence is perfectly sufficient to establish common descent by itself. The fossils just show us what some of the ancestors looked like. +--- 14898816 +>>14897961 +>>14898175 +>>14898444 +>>14898471 +>>14898755 +proofs. lol +--- 14898826 +>>14898793 +>the DNA evidence is perfectly sufficient to establish common descent by itself + +no you believe it because jewish scientist told you to believe same with global warming and moon landing +--- 14898846 +>>14898826 +>no the anti-troon science is false! +This is getting really sad. +--- 14898865 +>>14896268 (OP) +If Christianity cannot be proven by the end of this thread, I will convert to Atheism. +--- 14898891 +>>14898746 +Least religious countries: Czechia, Estonia, Japan +>high IQ +>de facto ethnostates +>developed +>low crime rates +Most religious countries: Afghanistan, Ghana, Uganda +>low IQ +>brown/black +>third world +>violent shitholes +--- 14898953 +>>14898891 +wow non negros are peaceful shocking +--- 14898956 +>>14898846 +Same guys that brought science also brought trannies so whats your point ? +--- 14898975 +>>14896404 +Go with the 'face as a man', He will never let down. +>>14897012 +Jehovah's Wiccans (JW) proved Christianity. +--- 14899416 +>>14897205 +i don't see how these verses you posted change the fact that paul contradicted jesus time and time again. besides, why even need paul? jesus alone gives all the teachings that are necessary for salvation +--- 14899568 +>>14899416 +Paul's letters were written 40 years before the Gospels existed. So it's the Gospel authors that contradict Paul. +--- 14899585 +>>14898072 +He didn't eve n say that +--- 14899588 +>>14899568 +except paul could still have lied about what jesus really said. if anything you just highlighted how unreliable the scriptures are in the first place +--- 14900495 +>>14898891 +least: uk +most: us +--- 14901411 +>>14899568 +James was first. +--- 14901432 +>>14896277 +Ironic that you're positing an actual cuckold +--- 14902313 +>>14896291 +>there's no evidence of that +Except, you know, PAUL. And all the Hellenistic Mystery Cults (which were syncretized with foreign cultures like the Persians, Thracians, Egyptians, etc. You do the math on what a Judeo-Hellenic mystery cult would look like) +--- 14902324 +>>14898953 +Exactly. The most inferior races are the most religious. +--- 14902644 +>>14896268 (OP) +It's historical +--- 14903117 +I have reached Gnosis +--- 14903134 +So was present to record Jesus alone with the devil in the desert and in the garden of Gethsemane (when apostles were asleep lol) +--- 14903136 +>>14898891 +>Czechia, Estonia, +these two are like the least developed countries in europe by almost every metric +--- 14903139 +>>14903117 +Oh, hello fellow druid. +--- 14903144 +>>14903139 +Reporting Sir. +--- 14904103 +>>14898768 +Did they make DNA tests of it? +--- 14904936 +Claim A: Jesus prophecized the end of times would come within the lifetime of his disciples. +Proof: Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30 and Luke 21:32. + +Claim B: It didn't happen. +Proof: Historical consensus. + +Claim C: Jesus was a false prophet. +Proof: Claim A, claim B and Deuteronomy 18:22. + +Claim D: Jesus deserved to die by biblical standards. +Proof: Claim C and Deuteronomy 18:20. diff --git a/his/14896409.txt b/his/14896409.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5853d5d340a67f7b8a815f5959018f371a962784 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14896409.txt @@ -0,0 +1,130 @@ +----- +--- 14896409 +Why is it always the redheads who get recast as Black? It's uncanny how often this happens. +--- 14896416 +Black girls are more attractive than white girls. +--- 14896418 +I don't think Greek incest children had red hair +--- 14896442 +>>14896418 +Contemporary art depicts her as a redhead. See pic related and the portrait from Pompeii and the bust with some paint still in the hair, and I'm sure I'm leaving others out. + +When Cleopatra hair became fashionable, Julius Caesar remarked that there were more redheads in Rome than in all the Celtic tribes. +--- 14896456 +Wasnt Alexanders wife also an Redhead, or was it ginger? +--- 14896464 +>>14896456 +She was described as having a ruddy complexion. +--- 14896471 +>>14896409 (OP) +>redheads who get recast as Black? It's uncanny how often this happens +It happens so regularly that it's a trope on /co/. Doesn't answer why it's always redheads, but yes, it certainly is. +--- 14896513 +>>14896409 (OP) +This Cleopatra barely even looks black at all, there's this weird horseshoe theory phenomenon where liberals end up with similar views on race as Varg. If an otherwise West Eurasian face is even vaguely dark skinned it might be declared Black, which is literally Ameriniggers, who were kings indeed. It's such a bizarre race-shifting attempt. +--- 14896527 +>>14896513 +Egypt is in Africa. Africa is Black. Which means Cleopatra was Black. +--- 14896536 +>>14896409 (OP) +White person here who despite being right wing is not a hateful virgin + +I HAVE TRAVELLED TO OTHER COUNTRIES, Egypt being one of them and egyptians aren't white. Cleopatra is not white. This is a stupid fight we have no reason to care for yet you imbeciles still fight over this. Travel to Egypt and see for yourselves. The only white people in egypt are american tourists for fucks sake +--- 14896547 +>>14896536 +Bait so stupid that you'd still come out looking dumber than anyone who takes it seriously. +--- 14896689 +>>14896536 +Indigenous Egyptians came from the same peoples as did the Arabs. They were never from sub-Saharan "black" Africa. Native Egyptians are still very much Arabs. + +But the Ptolemaic dynasty to which Cleopatra VII belonged was a European, Macedonian lineage. +--- 14896748 +>>14896409 (OP) +it will happen when 4chan's story is told as well +--- 14896770 +>>14896409 (OP) +>Black +I feel sorry for amerimutts who are so mixed they don't know what real blacks look like. +--- 14896798 +I think this netflix shit might be a discord ruse. A new thread gets posted every few hours. +--- 14896801 +>>14896748 +What board is this? They're too white to be /pol/. +--- 14896847 +>>14896409 (OP) +WE +--- 14896851 +>>14896801 +It was a different time +--- 14897227 +>>14896536 +Cleopatra wasn't even Egyptian, moron +You should have studied history instead of travelling third world shitholes +--- 14897236 +>>14896409 (OP) +I've seen some people argued that since the Ptolemaic dynasty intermarried with the locals and since we don't know precisely about her mother, she could have been black. +Frankly, is that even plausible? +--- 14897545 +>>14897236 +>the Ptolemaic dynasty intermarried with the locals +lel +--- 14897556 +>>14896442 +That's not a redhead, same color as her eyes +--- 14897562 +>>14896409 (OP) +Either way, Cleopatra is ethnically and culturally unrelated to either type of american +--- 14897571 +>>14897556 +colorblind +--- 14898110 +>>14896416 +(X) Doubt +--- 14899544 +>>14897236 + +No, considering how the Greeks and Macedonians viewed their conquered subjects with contempt. The idea of an aristocratic Hellenes family marrying a local was unthinkable. +--- 14900534 +>>14897236 +First, they did not intermarry outside of their own dynasty. +Second, even if they did, the locals were Arabs, not Blacks. +So no, it's not even plausible. +--- 14900543 +>>14896418 +Incest causes recesive traits to pop up. Joos have more redheads than scotts. But cleopatra tried to bleach her skin bathing in milk. And redheads are naturally non-melanized. +--- 14900800 +>>14900543 +That makes a lot of sense +--- 14900821 +>>14900534 +>the locals were Arabs +--- 14901254 +>>14896536 +"Not white" does not automatically = black +--- 14901894 +>>14896409 (OP) +>Why is it always the redheads who get recast as Black? +There has to be a reason. is it because the redheads are already distinctive looking? +--- 14902215 +>>14900821 +Genetically they were almost the same thing, incorrect terminology but the sentiment is essentially right. +--- 14902616 +>>14896409 (OP) +Idk +--- 14902750 +I'll just leave this here. +--- 14903750 +>>14896536 +Pretty much proofs you have never been out of your mothers basement and you projected your mutteducation on a timeline 2000 years ago. +--- 14903758 +>>14896536 +The people who built the Great Pyramids and laid the foundations of Ancient Egypt were white unlike you. Cleopatra was Greek. +--- 14904143 +>>14896851 +Sad, I went as an anon once to a con a decade ago, I felt like if I did it today I would get assaulted and vanned +--- 14904191 +>>14902215 +Saying ancient Egyptians are the same as Arabs is almost as retarded as saying they're niggers +--- 14904203 +>>14904191 +No, you don't understand, they really are the most similar population, albeit with still a fair bit of distance. diff --git a/his/14897313.txt b/his/14897313.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..50f1f3aa33b5fbb5d06ac53b48d3b6fa7cfcabab --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14897313.txt @@ -0,0 +1,405 @@ +----- +--- 14897313 +>Biden is a French name + +Why do so many white Americans identify as Irish or Scottish and such when in real terms they have no connection to them beyond some vague stuff like “my grandfather had an Irish second name!” + +It’s bizarre because I can’t imagine this shit happening in a European country. You don’t see some guy in England with a Swedish second name whose family has lived there for 120 years proudly claiming he is Swedish and misses his homeland +--- 14897319 +>>14897313 (OP) +>implying the origin of someone's last name is necessarily reflective of the majority of their genetic makeup +retard +--- 14897323 +>>14897313 (OP) +americans decide their ancestry by throwing dart at Europe’s map but because most Americans are fat drunks they land it in Ireland and Scotland +--- 14897329 +>>14897323 +>most Americans are fat drunks +The ones who take after the Founders, in any case. +--- 14897332 +>>14897319 +If genetic makeup is how you decide your culture, why aren’t most white Americans harping on about being German and English +--- 14897335 +>>14897332 +Because those are both the "losers" in the only two wars any of them care about. +--- 14897337 +>>14897332 +It's understood that most White Americans are mostly English, so when people want to be special they will of course emphasize less common ancestries. Plus American culture is basically a spinoff of English, so if you want to learn about your ancestors' culture, food, dress, music, traditions, etc. it's only natural to take an interest in something more distinct than English. +Also plenty of White Americans harp on being English anyway, moms everywhere love the Royal family. +Why do you care anyway? +--- 14897347 +>>14897313 (OP) +American here, I agree, its complete bullshit. The people who do shit like that are usually the Trad types who feel like they need some connection to the "Old World" to ground themselves, and its ridiculous +THAT BEING SAID, there is a lot of legitimacy behind a lot of Americans saying they're Irish or Scottish, because the last major wave of European immigrants to the United States happened fairly recently, between the late 19th to early 20th centuries, and so many of us remember having a grandparent or great grandparent who would often share stories of growing up in Ireland or Scottland before immigrating to the United States. +If its any consolation, I can say with confidence me and my family are all Anglos, we arrived in America in the 1600s and remained in heavy Anglo communities through to the present day. I know the names and identities of 11 of my ancestors since then from both sides of my family. But if you ask me, I'm just an American. And will always be an American. Because I guaruntee you my earliest ancestors from after 1776 would never want to call themselves English either. +--- 14897351 +>>14897337 +>Why do you care anyway? + +God I hate people like you + +>don’t discuss anything! Caring is lame! +--- 14897603 +>>14897313 (OP) +It's an English name actually. +--- 14897621 +Ireland and identifying with it is sort of a meme in America, that’s all there is to it really. +--- 14897648 +>>14897313 (OP) +>Biden +>French name + +Dans quel monde c'est un nom français putain ? +--- 14897847 +If I remember correctly his mother is of Irish descent while his dad was Huguenot. + +That said, yanks typically identify with whatever part of Europe (of the parts which they have significant ancestry from) that they like most. Everyone loves Ireland, everyone hates Brits. It's simple enough. +--- 14897982 +>>14897603 +All English Americans say they are Irish or Scottish though. + +Not really any that say they’re welsh for some reason +--- 14897986 +>>14897847 +>everyone loves Ireland + +Do they? Kinda just seems like they see them as weak and therefore an easy underdog figure +--- 14898468 +>>14897313 (OP) +Because generally you do have a connection to these countries. I'm mixed Italian and French for example. I was raised Catholic and my mother typically cooked Italian meals while growing up. I'm not going to say I'm as Italian as someone born in Italy, but there are still echos of the culture that my great-grandparents brought over with them all around me. You do feel a slight connection. I certainly feel more Italian than french though since my mom was the homemaker and she is the Italian one. +--- 14898479 +>>14897847 +so I'm mostly of German ancestry but also a little Hungarian on my mother's side but who gaf about Hungary? +--- 14898730 +>>14897313 (OP) +Americans simply think the irish and scottish are cool rebellious plucky noble savages, in direct opposition to the tyrannical, pompous and lame european kingdoms of Britan, France and the like. +--- 14898774 +>>14897313 (OP) +Could be from the Norman's, like Fitzgerald. I've never met a Biden though +t. Irishanon +--- 14899169 +At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Americans called themselves Irish just because it's funny how irrationally angry it makes Anglos online +--- 14899433 +>>14897313 (OP) +Norman conquest or Latin-Franks immigration +--- 14899442 +>>14897313 (OP) +That's not the only thing that Biden has falsified. He's not even the President. President Trump is still the President. +--- 14899453 +>>14897313 (OP) +Truth is that Europeans and especially Western Euros have been mixing with each other for over 1000 years and more elite your family is the more they mixed. Nationalism and language standardisation is a flavour LARP that's literally younger than America. +--- 14899467 +>>14898730 +Literally this. Same reason why white as fuck Americans will boast about being part native Apache somehow + +Irishness is joke to Americans culturally. The equivalent of the it’s a small world ride at Disneyland. Which makes the Irish grovelling at their feet always amusing +--- 14899471 +>>14899169 +>everybody I don’t like is Anglos + +I’m Brazilian. You guys are retarded. And that’s coming from a Brazilian +--- 14899480 +>>14897313 (OP) +He wants Irish to vote for him. It's similar to how Warren Wilhelm Jr. goes by Bill de Blasio so Italians will vote for him. +--- 14899489 +>>14897982 +Americans don't even know what Wales is. +--- 14899555 +>>14899489 +>europeans so high off their own smugness they think we don't know basic sea creatures +We have one of the largest coastlines in the fucking world, you stupid eurocuck. +--- 14899630 +>>14899555 +Kek. +--- 14899658 +>>14897847 +Also there's a religion factor. Biden is Catholic, so he won't identify with the Huguenot side. An awful lot of American churches are really ethnic ones. +--- 14900206 +>>14899480 +Yeah it's basically a 2024 campaign trip aimed at Irish-Americans in the Midwest and Pennsylvania. I thought it was funny that Biden came out at that rally to the Dropkick Murphys. +--- 14900235 +I'm not Catholic, my family were pretty fundie Church of Christers, but Biden has a "Catholic" vibe to him from what I've seen as well. Which makes sense because he's Catholic, but he sometimes looks like a priest. He's only our second Catholic president too. + +A rather gothic figure in some ways. +--- 14900259 +>>14897332 +My girlfriend and I are both white Americans with English surnames who are ethnically English but I've never really met any other ones. +--- 14900271 +>>14900206 +>a geriatric boomer billionaire who eats big macs and had an army of people storm congress waving pepe flags +>another geriatric, literally too old to be a boomer, whose entire hopes of staying us president rest on him being able to convince enough muh heritage fags he's actually irish +you know i'm starting to think i'm unconscious and my brain is (poorly) making up a world it thinks is realistic +--- 14900363 +>>14899480 +>He wants Irish to vote for him +What year is this, 1880? The Irish bloc stopped being important by the 1930s when Italians displaced their political machines in the big cities. +--- 14900387 +>>14900363 +What other reason do people have to vote democrat? +--- 14900460 +>>14897313 (OP) +Why do Europeans feel the need to ask daily why American's care about their ancestry? Nobody cares about random buzzfeed articles about where the name Biden came from, but why is it such a strange thing for someone to take an interest in their genetic roots? +--- 14900561 +>>14900387 +There are none, for boomers anyways. The only boomers who still vote for the Democrats are Catholics. +--- 14900579 +>>14900259 +You’re Irish. Stop letting the Britishers lie to you +--- 14900582 +>>14900460 +Same reason Americans ask Europeans stuff. While people have curiosity. If you don’t you’re not white +--- 14900595 +>>14900579 +good morning sar +--- 14900601 +>>14900259 +It's pretty common. What state do you live in? Here in Oregon most people I've met have English surnames. If you're from the east coast or midwest the whites are more exotic. +--- 14900604 +>>14900579 +>Britishers +--- 14900610 +>>14900601 +I’m English and I don’t understand why you’d take so much stock in surnames. Half the white people in England have “non English” surnames. Whether that be Irish, German, French etc + +If your family has been here for a century or more what difference does or make whatsoever? + +The main nationalist figure we had for ages was Nigel Farage and his second name is French Huguenot +--- 14900635 +>>14897313 (OP) +My last name is in English yet I'm almost 95% sub-Saharan African. Someone in my family about 7-8 generations ago married (yes, married) a free black woman in Jamaica, and now I exist. +--- 14900644 +>>14900610 +>Whether that be Irish, German, French etc + +In a few decades this will include Slavic, specifically Polish and Albanian surnames. +--- 14900649 +>>14900635 +Raxe-mixer bros... I thought that our grandkids would be white??? +--- 14900663 +>>14900610 +>I’m English and I don’t understand why you’d take so much stock in surnames +It's not perfect, but it's at least some indication of someone's origins. If your name is Tortellini or whatever then it's unlikely you're a WASP. +>Half the white people in England have “non English” surnames. Whether that be Irish, German, French etc +I doubt it's that many. What makes you say that? Sorry to be a sourcefag but source? +>If your family has been here for a century or more what difference does or make whatsoever? +I wasn't making much of a claim about whether it matters or not. Just an observation. +>The main nationalist figure we had for ages was Nigel Farage and his second name is French Huguenot +Yeah but he's not really French either in terms of ancestry or culture. It's like one guy who passed the name along. +--- 14900740 +Its Robinette (Joe Biden's real name) that is a French name, not Biden +--- 14900769 +>>14899489 +Heh. The English don't even know they're Welsh because of penal laws. +anglo-kikes trolling b8 is eternal kek +--- 14900772 +>>14900644 +Yeah, it will. There’s plenty of weird surnames already for random white people in England + +>>14900663 +Sorry. No source off the top of my head. + +It’s just that if you look white. You’re basically assimilated into being English by the second generation. + +Off the top of my head there’s even plenty of mixed race people who technically aren’t white but you wouldn’t know + +>Emilia Clarke + +Part Indian + +>Kate beckinsale + +Part Burmese + +>Boris Johnson + +Part Turkish + +None of them think they aren’t English +--- 14900813 +>>14900772 +>You’re basically assimilated into being English by the second generation. +>None of them think they aren’t English +America was swamped with various ethnics whereas in England it's just been a trickle. For a long time they had their own enclaves so the identity persists even long after it's become moribund and larpy. Biden grew up with his mother telling him he's Irish so that's what he thinks he is. +--- 14900863 +>>14900610 +>Half the white people in England have “non English” surnames. +Nah that's bullshit +--- 14900904 +>>14900561 +ha no there are a lot of boomers of various flavors that are staunch Democrats including richfags on the coasts, most Jews, and most government workers. +--- 14900907 +My great grandparents Anglicized their surname during the anti-German butthurt spree in WWI. +--- 14900970 +>>14897313 (OP) +Here in Argentina your ancestry is considered a "fun fact" at most. People may give you a nickname based on your surname (the Polish dude, the Italian, the Turk, the Russian, etc) but it's mostly boomers who do that. You may also get asked where your surname is from, and people have a vague idea of where their grandparents came from, but it's really not something part of your identity. + +In the past (until 1950s?) there used to be "immigrant's clubs" (people of Basque ancestry would go play paddle at a place called the Basque Club, or a person of British ancestry would go play rugby at a place called Hindu Club) but now while these places still exist with those names, people mingle completely, they are no longer ethnic clubs but rather Argentine football and rugby clubs. + +I think the tendency of Americans to hyphenate makes the differences worse... like, why not simply be an American, as opposed to Irish-American, Mexican-American, etc. ? +--- 14900979 +>>14898479 +If you're mostly German (75-80%) genetically, then you're a German, even if you're born in the US. If you're born to German/Italian/Irish/Finnish/Slavic parents, that's what you are. Simple as. + +Like euros aren't a mishmash of their own countries themselves. +--- 14900981 +>>14900970 +>Hindu Club +This is not a dig at you Bongs btw. There really is a club called that. I think the founders were Anglos with some ties to the Raj. +--- 14901056 +>>14897313 (OP) +It's because the Irish immigrants who went to America saw themselves as "temporary refugees" who would return to an independent Ireland. They actively encouraged and instilled Irish nationalism onto their kids and the Irish themselves encourage this because it gets them tourism money and an army of Plastic Paddy golems to shill for Irish interests in America. +--- 14901062 +>>14897332 +>German +World Wars made them lame, also Americans cannot speak German anymore +>English +It's the "default" and therefore taken for granted and seen as boring. Nowadays having "Anglo Saxon pride" is also decried as White Supremacist and seen as evil/immoral/racist/etc. +--- 14901071 +>>14897603 +England has plenty of French names, for obvious reasons. Normans + Huguenots gave us all the D'Arcys, Sinclairs, Bidens, Villes, Bassets, etc. +--- 14901080 +>>14899169 +>how irrationally angry it makes Anglos online +*all Europeans +Italians lose their shit at Americans because they slightly modify the sacred recipes or whatever. It's always the "AAAAA ANNNNOOO YOU A DESECRATE A DAH PASTA NNNOOO AMERICANO PIG!" +--- 14901092 +>>14900635 +Caribbean and North American blacks almost always have British surnames. Every black American or Jamaican I've met has a name that would fit in Hampshire or Lancashire lol +--- 14901099 +>>14901080 +Cutting pasta in half is retarded though. +It gets soft within less than a minute of the cooking process. +--- 14901104 +>>14900970 +The USA is just like that as well, your impression of it from online interaction is simply muddled by the fact that everyone behaves like a caricature online. +Intermarriage is the norm in the US, even for Jewish communities, like 50% of Jews in the US marry non-Jews now. +>If you're mostly German (75-80%) genetically, then you're a German, even if you're born in the US. +No you're not, unless you actually speak German. The Amish can be called "Germans" of a sort because they actually speak (a dialect of) the fucking language. +Wannabe fifth columnist fags who can't pronounce Streichholzschachtel have no right to call themselves "German" +--- 14901105 +>>14901092 +That’s because black slaves got baptised and given new names. Obviously they’d get anglo ones. +--- 14901111 +>>14901104 +>>If you're mostly German (75-80%) genetically, then you're a German, even if you're born in the US. +>No you're not, unless you actually speak German. The Amish can be called "Germans" of a sort because they actually speak (a dialect of) the fucking language. +Wannabe fifth columnist fags who can't pronounce Streichholzschachtel have no right to call themselves "German" +was directed at +>>14900979 +--- 14901421 +>>14901111 +Then fire up Rosetta Stone and learn the language. Talk to older relatives and learn words/phrases from them. + +I said GENETICALLY German, not culturally. +--- 14901433 +>>14901080 +Irish and Italians are reversed in America. The Irish are worse in America but better in Ireland, and the Italians are worse in Italy but better in America. + +https://youtu.be/6Ov-nXHoVK0 [Embed] +--- 14901467 +>>14898479 +Me +>t. Albanian +--- 14901770 +>>14901092 +Jamaicans in particular always have old fashioned British names. Nine times out of ten, if you see a black man named Clifford, Barrington, Wesley, Nigel, or Winston, they're of Jamaican descent. +--- 14901774 +>>14900649 +Hilariously, if I married a white woman, I'd still be passing down my R1b haplogroup, but with a very different genetic profile. +--- 14901778 +>>14900970 +>why not simply be an American + +It's because Anglo Saxon descended Americans made sure that we would never forget that we aren't them, and will never be them. We had to either assimilate losing everything we had or we couldn't assimilate due to either racial or ethnic discrimination. The best example of this are African Americans. Even if there's someone who was descended from nothing but freemen for 12 generations back and was as American as could be culturally, their race would immediately mark them as "other". + +Besides, I know Argentines have different issues relating to race, what happened to your black people? Even Uruguay still has a visible minority that isn't ultra mixed race, and they're even whiter! +--- 14901781 +>>14897313 (OP) +Biden is actually an Anglo-Saxon name. Doesn't get any whiter than that. I don't even like Biden, you're just flat out wrong. +--- 14901856 +>>14900206 +That's so adorable that he can't actually run on wokeshit because nobody wants that stuff so instead he has to do this quaint 1950s Democrat campaign thing like "Yeah I'm totally a blue collar Irish dude just like you folks." +--- 14901860 +so he's not biologically irish, but he identifies as that and we have to accept it +--- 14901866 +>>14901860 +No idiot, his mom is Irish. +--- 14901964 +>>14897332 +>on about being German and English +Germans got supressed to death in WW1, otherwise I would assure they would be as autistic as Argentine Germans. As for the English, they either became Southern, consider themselves American (the last two overlap), or died as the last WASPs in New England +--- 14901989 +My father was Scottish and was born there and yet I don't feel like I'm Scottish +I have no connection to the Scottish people +I think Robert Burns is a boring poet +--- 14902083 +>>14901104 +Glad to hear + +>>14901778 +>what happened to your black people? +They blended into the population. 6% have some African genes. Where did da black people disappear is some meme question only clueless foreigners ask... if you understand we only had like 500k people at independence and 7 million Euros and Middle Easterners immigrated it makes perfect sense they were outnumbered by the immigrants. Black population was small because slavery was abolished very early, there were no plantations like in the USA. They were mostly limited to domestic servants for rich people in colonial times. + +>>14901964 +>I would assure they would be as autistic as Argentine Germans +Don't even know what this is supposed to mean but our Germans are all pretty liberal and integrated with the community, it's hard to find a German descendant that isn't part Spanish/Italian/Native or whatever. Even weird mixes like Armenian-German descendant like David Nalbandian (tennis player). +--- 14902123 +>>14901778 +>>14902083 +BTW, Uruguay is whiter but they received both less Euros (proportionally) but also much less immigrants from the rest of South America as we did in modern times, so they have less native genetics. Their population is a bit more similar to colonial times. African percentage is mostly the same in both countries, it's just that theirs are more visible and ours are more bleached. + +Uruguay has 4% African genes concentrated in 4-5% of the population, we have 2% African gene admixture spread out in 6% of the population, people like Juan Veron (soccer player) who may not "look black" but they have some African heritage. So they are not "visibly black" but they exist. +--- 14902144 +My grandfather was mostly German yet he identified with his Irish background which was like 5% way more. No fucking clue why honestly +--- 14902154 +>>14902123 +Proud to be a shiItalian and also Uruguayan diaspora. +--- 14902598 +>>14897313 (OP) +Biden is a Jewish name +--- 14902733 +I fucking hate the USA and Biden but watching British media seethe endlessly about his visit to Ireland has been very funny +--- 14902783 +>>14897332 +I think it’s because (in addition to what >>14901062 + said) Irish race were people living in the shit. Viewed as “harded” by most people unlike Germans and the posh English “hur hur hur!” +--- 14903339 +>>14902733 +Trump is half-Scottish. He could have visited Scotland and made a speech about Bannockburn if he wanted to annoy them I suppose. +--- 14903346 +yeah yeah we know German-American identity was largely suppressed during WWI. the Midwest has a lot of Scandinavians as well but they also largely assimilated and didn't preserve a separate identity for very long. +--- 14903357 +>>14901104 +I'm French Cajun. It was an incredibly insular community before the late-20th century. My great grandparents didn't even speak English. I'm PVR Frog on both sides going back to colonial days. +--- 14903475 +>>14901866 +You get your ethnicity through your father, imagine saying your Spanish and being named van der weide. +This is how it goes in Europe atleast. +--- 14903593 +>>14901856 +Politicians, especially these kinda "retail politicians" who have doing it their whole lives, can often be quite charming in person. I've only met one pretty high-up guy (presidential debate stage level), not Biden though, and I thought the guy was a dummy, but they have this weird glint in their eyes that disarms people. Then if they get a decent line or joke in they'll flash that politician Smiler grin at you. It's bizarre. + +It's interesting how he does it. Love him (who does though?) or hate him, Biden is either craftier than his enemies have given him credit for, or he is somehow (maybe) synthesizing American politics in a weird way out of necessity just so it can hold together. He is applying a kinda neo-Keynesian policy and folded Bernie in, but he's an old white guy who's doing that quaint '50s thing like you said. He's sorta woke in a general moral sensibility but he is totally confident in his ability to speak in the same cultural vernacular as the average retiree. Like I said, very Catholic. Which he is. There's a Catholic culture that's more "quiet." He wanted to bring the temperature down. + +>>14902733 +The British media is terrible. It's worse than America and our media is pretty fuckin bad +--- 14903714 +To be totally fair I doubt every white American has European ancestry from the continent dating back centuries. There are definitely more whites that are the spawn of celtic and German dregs, that’ve coke more recently. So their parents probably bring it more. +--- 14903739 +>>14897313 (OP) +My entire moms side is full Scottish and my dad is fully English. Do you spend all day on 4chan letting Americans live rent free in your head or something? +--- 14903895 +>>14903339 +He tried and the Scots gave him endless shit +--- 14903981 +>>14899169 +I'm anglo and i don't care? +--- 14904692 +>>14903593 +>It's interesting how he does it. Love him (who does though?) or hate him, Biden is either craftier than his enemies have given him credit for, or he is somehow (maybe) synthesizing American politics in a weird way out of necessity just so it can hold together. He is applying a kinda neo-Keynesian policy and folded Bernie in, but he's an old white guy who's doing that quaint '50s thing like you said. He's sorta woke in a general moral sensibility but he is totally confident in his ability to speak in the same cultural vernacular as the average retiree. Like I said, very Catholic. Which he is. There's a Catholic culture that's more "quiet." He wanted to bring the temperature down. +what the fuck are you talking about +he's a senile old retard who they put up to appeal to "swing voters" (white middle class people), he probably literally has moments he doesn't know he's president. +https://youtu.be/oGW76zRKZM0 [Embed] +--- 14904725 +>>14897332 +Because my family is from Germany and didn't stop having German traditions just because they moved to America. Do you think immigrants are stripped of all their cultural baggage at the border? diff --git a/his/14898424.txt b/his/14898424.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5501b038afb68c3fb5429601d475dfed7bed2155 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14898424.txt @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +----- +--- 14898424 +>tfw no Manchurian tomboy gf who's into femdom +--- 14898904 +>>14898424 (OP) +Hanjian +--- 14899403 +>>14898904 +Gay in denial +--- 14899421 +>>14898904 +She was Manzu, not Hanzu +--- 14899575 +>>14898424 (OP) +>Yoshiko_Kawashima +doesn't sound very manchurian to me +--- 14899739 +>>14899575 +Birth name was Aisin Gioro Xianyu, but she was raised in Japan +--- 14899756 +>>14898424 (OP) +>On 22 November 1925, Yoshiko said that she had "...decided to cease being a woman forever." +> she would only use the male style of Japanese grammar + +>but trans people are totally a new concept +--- 14899803 +>>14899756 +>the male style of Japanese grammar +eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh +--- 14899883 +>>14898424 (OP) +manchus deserve their homeland +--- 14899896 +>>14899883 +Manchus stopped existing after chuang guandong. +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuang_Guandong +Chinks got scared after Russia annexed Primorsky (Vladivostok area) and decided to fully settle the sparsely populated Manchuria so that the Russians couldn't claim any more of it. +There are no native Manchus left. The people who claim to be just want the tax benefits it provides in the modern PRC. +--- 14899995 +>>14898424 (OP) +Women LARPing as men is a sure sign of autism. +--- 14900337 +>>14899739 +>this +Much like Napoleon and Mohammed Ali +--- 14900359 +>>14900337 +I didn't think Japan was big on boxing. Didn't Mohammed Ali face prejudice growing up in Japan? +--- 14900515 +>>14900359 +>face prejudice growing up +>doesn’t know actual madlad Mohammed Ali +American education +--- 14901877 +>>14899756 +No one cares about F2M, if they want to play on hard mode they're welcome to it. +--- 14901904 +>>14898424 (OP) +didn't the chinks execute her after the Japanese were flushed out? +--- 14901914 +tranny +--- 14901920 +>Even if I have a home, I can't go home. I have tears, but I can't speak. I have a law, but I can't find justice. +Her death haiku +--- 14901927 +days since /his/ romanticized a collaborator war criminalfu: 0 +--- 14901982 +>>14898424 (OP) +femdom defeats the purpose of tomboys +--- 14902002 +BASED +--- 14902542 +>>14898424 (OP) +Weirdo +--- 14902567 +She is from the SHANDONGIC tribes +--- 14902593 +She is noble commander of 88th 8 Banner Shandonger Battalion + +She will never betray the Mighty Great Pan Shandong Empire +--- 14902600 +VGH SHANDONG +BEE +BEE +SEA +--- 14902811 +>>14898904 +Learning about China made Manchu women turbohot to me +--- 14903266 +>>14901920 +sauce? +--- 14903316 +>>14899756 +tomboys are praised and welcomed, ywbaw +--- 14904616 +>>14902600 +huh +--- 14904623 +>>14903316 +tomboys are degenerate diff --git a/his/14898545.txt b/his/14898545.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d86f3b416897f2e0762190816f57fb9815a91324 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14898545.txt @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +----- +--- 14898545 +is katana the most memed weapon in the history of mankind? they're actually fucking useless. +--- 14898572 +>>14898545 (OP) + +Swords in general are memed weapons. There's not a whole lot they can do that spears, axes, clubs, maces, and polearms can't do 100x better with only a fraction of the materials required in making them. +--- 14898602 +>>14898545 (OP) +Katanas were good swords that saw lots of use and imitation through late medieval and early modern east asia. +They're far from shit and I'm not taking a katana of dubious make handled by someone of nonexistant skill as indicative of their use. +That said, yes, I can't think of a weapon that has been more hyped and overrated than they have. +I'd say spears are becoming a solid second place because of retards like >>14898572, but the distance to katanas is still beyond massive. +--- 14898779 +Katanas were fine for the role they fulfilled, which was as a sidearm and status symbol. +--- 14899485 +>>14898602 +>a katana of dubious make +This is is, really. No metal should warp like that. This is a genuine ebay era katana. +--- 14899491 +>>14898545 (OP) + +Katanas are meant to be used exclusively against flesh. Not armor, not wood, not plastic, not a rifle barrel, not even another katana. +--- 14899510 +>>14899491 +>Not armor +Then they're fucking useless. +--- 14899529 +>>14898545 (OP) +You need an American blade to defeat an American beverage. +--- 14900385 +katanas not only are useless but are also gay tbqh. feminine "weapon". when I imagine a person holding katana it is some kind of skinny faggot or a woman. as opposed to something manly like claymore. +--- 14900435 +>>14900385 +https://youtu.be/vzqeu0euWA8 [Embed] +--- 14900457 +I nominate the switchblade. It's criminalization in the US is entirely based upon popular panic derived from aesthetics and media. It's not meaningfully more dangerous in the hands of a criminal than a normal folding or sheath knife. +--- 14900842 +>>14898545 (OP) +>samurai believed the sword was their very spirit +imagine what regular coke would reduce Ichiro to +--- 14900875 +>>14898572 +The sword is a far better weapon than all those meme melee weapons. They just happen to have a specialization whereas the sword is a generalist weapon. +--- 14900881 +Swords are oversized knives +--- 14900936 +>>14900457 +That's a good point. When I finally got my hands on one, it was very disappointing +--- 14900955 +Did someone mention a meme useless weapon? +--- 14901634 +>>14898545 (OP) +Probably, though a lot of people shit on katanas just as much in response to them being so overhyped by media. Historically speaking a samurai’s main weapon on the battlefield was either a bow/arquebus or a spear/polearm, with the katana being reserved for intense close quarter fighting or in case your spear/polearm broke. They got mythologized since they were symbols of the samurai as a class, used for duels and self defense, and carried around all the time. The whole folded a billion times thing is because Japanese iron is shit, so the whole process was necessary to make the swords decent in the first place. As far as it’s actual effectiveness in battle is concerned it seems the Ming held a pretty high opinion of them, in the Battle of Byeokjegwan during the Imjin War the Ming literally cited their daos (Chinese swords) being inferior as one of the main reasons they were defeated by the Japanese. (Battle devolved into a dense melee) The Japanese also seemed to think Chinese swords were pretty trash, and they would use the ones they found as impromptu spikes for their fortifications. Of course that might be saying more about Chinese swords than anything else, but I don’t really have any other examples I can think of that bring up katanas in particular. +--- 14901714 +>>14898545 (OP) +Correct, if you want a curved blade go for an English cavalry sabre or a Persian scimitar. Both places had better metal techniques and technology than the Japanese. In japans peak katana production age, the Scottish had been making better swords for about 300-500 years. Some katana are beautiful pieces of art and the Japanese have cool weapon technique that has survived but that’s about the nicest thing I can say about them. Check out /k/ and ask the kommandos. They’ll know more about metal types and modern blacksmiths / forgers than I can remember. +--- 14901785 +IIRC the Germanic tribes in proto-feudal castle towns/city states had better construction methods for arms/armor. They were beautiful pieces of craftsmanship that were also amazing tools of war. That only really got more noticeable as they got placed under a local hegemon and urbanized more later on down the line. Tod did a pretty cool video on it a while back. +>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hz-WDYtYCw&t=206s [Embed] +--- 14901791 +>>14899510 +They were for killing peasants not soldiers +--- 14901979 +>>14898545 (OP) +I am not a bottle slicer expert. How should this have looked with a proper sharp sword (of any type)? I would guess it would slice into it and embed itself minimum, but would it completely cut it apart? The latter seems a bit anime for something of a consistency such as plastic+water (I'd expect it for something like flesh). +--- 14902020 +>>14898545 (OP) +>>14901979 +What happens if you use a katana that isn't a halloween toy: +https://youtu.be/bAkEd8r7Nnw?t=237 [Embed] +--- 14902458 +>>14898545 (OP) +Katanas weren't made for war since the 1650s, they banned samurai duels around that time and had roughly 200 years of peace under a feudal military dictatorship. Also their unification war was fought almost entirely with guns, which they were continuing to manufacture during their peace time. +--- 14902505 +>>14898602 + +Swords has absolutely no strategic value on the battlefield. A formation of swords cant accomplish anything. + +A formation of spears has a hundred different strategic values. + +Spears could be mass-produced with very little cost. A sword required a hundred times more effort and cost to make. +--- 14902858 +>>14902505 +spot the skinny fat hema autist +--- 14902870 +>>14898545 (OP) +When you buy a sword from China it probably won't arrive sharpened even when it says it is sharpened. +--- 14902877 +>>14902870 +Most if not all swords "Made in China" are really just what most hoplologists would call "Swordlike Objects". They aren't even intended for cutting and often use very soft steel. Their purposes are usually just as LARPing props OR as decorative art pieces, not as proper cutting tools. I honestly think thats what gives katanas in general a bad name. Properly made katanas are on par with European broadswords. +--- 14903306 +>>14898545 (OP) +Wasn't it just yesterday that caused the massive schizo outrage +--- 14904136 +katana is overrated, and staff is underrated +--- 14904163 +>>14902505 +And that's great up until that shit breaks, gets interleaved, or fighting gets close. Everyone who could afford a sword brought one, to the point where the Swiss had to have regulations forbidding pikemen from wearing full on longswords so they'd bring something shorter. +--- 14904202 +>>14902505 +*Laughs in latin* +--- 14904210 +>>14898545 (OP) +Yes. But the katana was a good sidearm for its place and time regardless. +--- 14904223 +>>14898545 (OP) +It wasn't useless, but it wasn't exceptional either like in anime. It was the equivalent of a saber, scimitar or some other curved cavalry sword. + +>katana.webm +If a bottle of coke can bend it permanently, it must be made of poor quality iron not steel. + +Poor quality iron was actually a problem in Japan which only has iron sands as a source of ore, this may have contributed to the myth of the Katana, their owners being among the few able to afford the best steel, they could have shattered the weapons of the Ashigaru levies or poorer Samurai. However, compared to a saber or scimitar from elsewhere in the world they were about the same. +--- 14904700 +>>14904223 +So where did they source proper steel sourced during sakoku? +--- 14904844 +>>14904700 +They used a,way of forging that turned pig iron into carbon steel, I think. diff --git a/his/14898581.txt b/his/14898581.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..cf4cafab9d95a0334b76951d80aa3dd6a34b714e --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14898581.txt @@ -0,0 +1,521 @@ +----- +--- 14898581 +>If all the women that you ask out reject you, then it's you. Not the system, not them, not some arbitrary condition but YOU. + +Is he correct? +--- 14898587 +Yes. +--- 14898590 +>>14898581 (OP) +No. +--- 14898614 +>>14898581 (OP) +>>14898587 +>>14898590 +Evil rat. +--- 14898638 +>>14898581 (OP) +There is always room for improvement on your part, but it's also true that women overvalue themselves and undervalue men. Women rate 80% of men as below average, and even Peterson acknowledged that. +--- 14898679 +Just wait until you get a bit older. I'm in my 40s and women won't leave me alone. Perhaps that's depressing, but I am awful at relationships and deserve to be perpetually single, so it's nice to have a series of short relationships if you can get used to them ending. Women's standards change a lot as they mature, and some of them stop chasing idiots. + +Just like with men, most women are NPCs on autopilot. There are a lot of thoughtless people out there, consumed only with their own desires and emotions. It takes some digging, but there are women looking for something better, and not physically. But you've already fucked up if you're massively overweight. + +Also rejection hurts more when you're younger and the hormones are making you feel more desperate. Relax and concentrate trade on your career and hobbies. +--- 14898680 +>>14898581 (OP) +It isn't that all the women reject you, it's that the jealous men destroy you. Repulsive, creepy men have no trouble. +--- 14898715 +>>14898581 (OP) +If all women reject you, you are justified in raping them. +--- 14898834 +>>14898614 +Demonic weasel, adversary of order and corruptor of logos. +--- 14898847 +>>14898638 +That's only on social media apps and the like, I don't trust those contraptions. +--- 14898860 +>>14898679 +>But you've already fucked up if you're massively overweight +Yeah that's a mental thing. +--- 14898958 +>>14898847 +Well that’s where everyone is. +There are no women at bars +No women at the mall +No women “out on the town” +No one goes to a food place or a tourist destination to meet potential boyfriends +Everyone dates online +Life trying to find a woman is hellish for a man under 30. +--- 14899073 +>>14898958 +Are you from the U.S.? +--- 14899829 +>>14898638 +Yea but there are also lots of ugly guys with girlfriends +--- 14899834 +>>14898958 +Yeah college is the last time where you can meet young attractive women organically +--- 14899854 +>>14898581 (OP) +Most likely. You need to look for the common denominator. Is there another question beind your question, OP? + +>>14898679 +Good post. Men's sexual market value increases over time unless they waste their time. + +>>14898958 +>No one goes to a food place or a tourist destination to meet potential boyfriends +They do go to gyms to meet some. A family friend paid for a gym membership, met a guy on her first day there and never felt the need to go again. They are married. +--- 14899865 +He’s not wrong + +Nature has NO time for losers or consolation prizes +--- 14899870 +>>14898581 (OP) +Yes. Elliot Rodgers couldn’t figure this one out and look what happened. +--- 14899871 +>>14898581 (OP) +Why he wears two-face suits now? +--- 14899872 +>>14898834 +Filthy goyim +--- 14899887 +>>14899871 +One of his key insights is that the "ideal" state for a human being to live in is the line between chaos and order, heaven and hell etc. I think he's trying to incorporate that into his wardrobe, but like most things he's put out in the past couple years, the only limit he's reaching is one between cringe and embarrassment. +--- 14899889 +>>14898581 (OP) +This is a classic example of the “personal is political.” This is also a perfect example of sophistry. He is using a universal generalization without any proof. A person's inability to maintain romantic relationships is not a reflection of their value. Some people prefer solitude or simply aren't ready. +--- 14899897 +>>14899870 +Elliot Rogers literally never asked out a girl even once, in his entire life. He believed he was attractive and rich enough that women should approach him. He said as much in his manifesto. Dude went on a killing spree because he refused to "lower himself" by asking girls out. +--- 14899905 +>>14899889 +This is a classic example of "bullshit". +>He is using a universal generalization without any proof. +Common denominator is evidence. +>A person's inability to maintain romantic relationships is not a reflection of their value. +Nobody mentioned value. +>Some people prefer solitude... +Doesn't even relate to the question, because such a person wouldn't necessarily seek success in approaching. +>Some people ... simply aren't ready. +Thanks for agreeing with JP. + +Take your estrogen. +--- 14899910 +>>14899889 +>>>/r9k/ +--- 14899920 +>>14899834 +Based. +--- 14899992 +>>14899834 +There's also churches I guess. I thought about doing that, but I realized I can't stomach Christianity anymore and I'd feel bad about misleading a Christian woman if I just faked it. Do people really not go to bars or something anymore? I don't know because I'm a borderline incel. +--- 14900027 +>>14898638 +This +--- 14900035 +>>14899992 +>I'd feel bad about misleading a Christian woman if I just faked it +Normal dudes don't give a shit. I've seen it so many times dudes go to churches just to hit on chicks then make them their girlfriends and never go back to service. +--- 14900053 +He's right, but the mass psychological experiments that somehow got out of the lab called social media completely shattered normal human relationships. + +I would modify his statement as such: +>If all the women that you ask out or message reject you, then it's you AND your online profile. Not the system, not them, not the ALGORITHM, not some arbitrary condition but YOU AND YOUR ONLINE PROFILE. +--- 14900065 +>>14900035 +See the thing is though, if you're looking for wife material I think serious, trad churches are probably the way to go. In that case, they're most likely not going to put up with a faker. That's just my impression being raised in churches like that. Most churches are full of nominal Christians however, so being a faker isn't that big of a deal since most people there aren't that serious about the religion to begin with. +--- 14900077 +>>14900053 +I never had social media and I never will. +Cope and seethe kikes. +--- 14900090 +>>14900065 +Christianity is perfectly rational and reasonable. Plantinga and Swinburne use modal logic and probability calculus to show that the faith in Christianity and the metaphysical worlds it opened up are completely sound. +--- 14900117 +>>14900090 +I don't care about the logical side of it so much really. It's emotional. I don't like many things about the religion. I don't think it's necessarily more rational or compelling than other religions however. +--- 14900118 +>>14900077 +I know this is 4chan and people aren't the brightest social butterflies out there but if you want to get women and don't have even just a simple innocuous Instagram profile with some semi-decent outdoor pictures and the like, you're a retard shooting itself in the foot. There's plenty of perfectly normal women who use them, not all of them are BPD social media junkie whores who post their bodies for million of thirsty males to see. + +Get on with the times. You either consciously utilize the new tools that are available to everyone or let other people who know how to use them cuck and stomp you and invisibly devour all your potential partners without a clue because you're living like it's 2004. +--- 14900187 +>>14900118 +>but if you want to get women and don't have even just a simple innocuous Instagram profile with some semi-decent outdoor pictures +This is the truth and it sucks because I hate that shit. You have to have it now. All I have is a blank profile I use to follow instawhores. Even though I don't use my real name it's tied to my real phone which probably isn't good, people I work with have probably seen it. I hate that shit too when it recommends you people from your contacts. +--- 14900190 +>>14900118 +I can't, I used a fake FB profile when in college for file sharing and that's that. The moment I post a picture online I feel like I lose to evil. + +I'm ambiverted though, so I socialize after tennis or sports. +--- 14900281 +>>14900190 +>so I socialize after tennis or sports. +Those people keep talking amongst each other through their phones, probably make group chats and are interacting way more when they're not playing sports. You're missing out. +It's not like uploading 3 pictures (more than enough) of you from afar is going to have glowies accompanied by zuckerberg and World Economic Forum goons knocking on your door or something. They already have your phone number anyways. +--- 14900286 +>>14898581 (OP) +It really depends. I'm inclined to say "yes" if it's literally every woman you're asking out. It's either how you come across or who you're asking. If you're setting your standards too high you will get a lot of rejections. If you have a one dimensional view of the issue and are, dare I say it, a "chud," then you're going to get a lot of rejections. Focus on making yourself socially and professionally competent and you'll have no problem. +--- 14900323 +>>14898581 (OP) +>If enough people do something its no longer bad +--- 14900339 +>>14898638 +Depends on where you live + +In Brazil i have seen some ugly men dating beautiful women but never the opposite (that not to say that the type of women you mentioned don't exist here) +--- 14900378 +>I will have to use virginity statistics as a proxy for the harder-to-measure romancelessness statistics, but these are bad enough. In high school each extra IQ point above average increases chances of male virginity by about 3%. 35% of MIT grad students have never had sex, compared to only 20% of average nineteen year old men. Compared with virgins, men with more sexual experience are likely to drink more alcohol, attend church less, and have a criminal history. A Dr. Beaver (nominative determinism again!) was able to predict number of sexual partners pretty well using a scale with such delightful items as “have you been in a gang”, “have you used a weapon in a fight”, et cetera. An analysis of the psychometric Big Five consistently find that high levels of disagreeableness predict high sexual success in both men and women. + +>If you’re smart, don’t drink much, stay out of fights, display a friendly personality, and have no criminal history – then you are the population most at risk of being miserable and alone. “At risk” doesn’t mean “for sure”, any more than every single smoker gets lung cancer and every single nonsmoker lives to a ripe old age – but your odds get worse. In other words, everything that “nice guys” complain of is pretty darned accurate. +https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ +--- 14900642 +>>14900286 +just be competent bro +--- 14900660 +Everyone knows pete says silly things. I think his fanclub has probably died down considerably with time as well +--- 14900665 +>>14899834 +This is why I still go to my local college bar even though I’m 34 +--- 14900735 +Juden Peterstein +--- 14900852 +>>14898581 (OP) +It's both you and the system. You for being an ugly, depressed, useless joke of a "man". The system for completely destroying men-women relationships, unbalancing the sexual market and allowing animal-like hypergamy (30% of men reproducing with 60% of women). +--- 14900950 +>>14898958 +People on social media also exist in real life. +--- 14900978 +>>14898581 (OP) +I dunno man. I'm 29, I've been single for 3 years now, and trying to find a woman seems impossible. I'm a pretty good looking guy, I'm fit and healthy, I have interests, and a fairly interesting job. + +I've tried, and am currently trying, the online dating thing. The only matches/messages I ever get are from Filipinos obviously looking for a green card, incredibly obese women, or single mothers. When women who seem like they'd be a perfect match ignore me I wonder what the hell I can do better. It's not like they're turned off by my horrible personality because it's never gotten to that point anyway. + +I have no idea where I can meet women in the real world. None of my hobbies have a particularly high number of women in them. + +Maybe the issue is with me but I have no idea what that issue is or how to fix it. I aint fucking a fatty. +--- 14900988 +casino bowling BALLS +--- 14900999 +Fucking SLUT MACHINES +--- 14901003 +>>14898679 +What incels don't understand is chad is over 30. Nothing makes a pussy drier than a man in his 20s. I look back at how pathetic I was. No wonder I didn't get laid. +--- 14901005 +>>14900988 +>>14900999 +CHECK'EM AHHHHHH +I'm also banned from starting a thread but reply is fine what the hell +--- 14901148 +>>14900978 +Read this: +>>14901003 +It wasn't my comment btw, I just agree with that anon. Just wait until you're as old as me and relationships are a huge annoyance because it takes away from my me time and hobbies. Plus most women are dependant emotional vampires and that gets really, really old, though I remember not being bothered by it as a young guy. Women have driven the cost up for sex so high I'd rather stay single. + +As a 40-something, if you stay in shape and seem to enjoy your own life, you will get female orbiters, which is amusing. At least 5 different women keep regular tabs on me hoping to get a piece eventually. +--- 14901179 +>>14900118 +Wrong. If a woman is addicted in Instagram is because she has totally bought into the hypergamous lifestyle. She's sticking her tentacles all the way out, hoping to get thr highest value guy possible, and fucking everything else that catches her fancy on the way. I reject any social media addict; they're low value and just mentally ill as we expected social media addicts to be. + +If you are a quality person and want a quality match, filter out that shit. +--- 14901187 +>>14898581 (OP) +thanks for the insight, junkie +--- 14901413 +>>14898581 (OP) +--- 14901472 +>>14901148 +You're probably right but I don't want fuckbuddies and orbiters when I'm in my 30s and 40s. I want a life partner. +--- 14901495 +>>14898581 (OP) +>this is what western thought comes down to in 21st century + +There's no hope, is there +--- 14901544 +>>14898581 (OP) +sheogorath +--- 14901566 +>>14900378 +The world is favoring the degenerate and the criminal. It's funny how this happened and if it was always the case. + +Did the criminal always enjoy life the most in the past? +--- 14901585 +>>14901566 +No because in the past many societies had Darwinian socio-economics built into them in one form or another +Criminals were frequently mobbed and killed, smart and forward-thinking people had more resources and thus had more children to pass on their genes to, dumb and short-sighted people would starve, get into fights and be killed, and their genes would presumably flounder because they couldn't get the resources they needed to have large families +It's only in our current humanistic, welfare society that dysgenic traits can out compete what can be seen as positive or productive traits, the trash can just get gubmint gibs to pay for their mewling little cabbages, while intelligent people are increasingly having fewer and fewer children for various reasons (demoralization, cost/standard of living creep, etc) +--- 14901605 +>>14901585 +This isn't to say this problem is only a modern one, the problem has been growing over time, it's just never been worse in terms of dysgenic traits being so good at competing with healthy traits +--- 14901623 +>>14901585 +>Criminals were frequently mobbed and killed +Unless they were cunning enough, then they got jobs in government. +--- 14901679 +>>14901414 +Fucking brutal. +--- 14901772 +>>14898581 (OP) +There's no place for me to ask women my age out. There's no young women local church communities, there's no women in rural areas, in urban areas your only chance is signing up for university, and even then, men outnumber women 10 to 1 in STEM -- good luck lol. Your best bet is studying medicine, but for that you need to sacrifice few years of your life to study for entry exam lol. +It really is over for western societies. 60% of young men are now single. +--- 14901775 +>>14901772 +*maybe not few years, but 1000-1500 hours to do a career/sudden life path change and get into some med school and even then you are not guaranteed a girlfriend +--- 14901818 +>>14898581 (OP) + +Yes. For every problem in your life you must ultimately look inward. You are responsible for every moment of your life. Only you. Every other idea is a fiction made up by your ego to protect you from the truth. And your life is only ever the present moment. Meaning now. Meaning that you are always responsible for how you feel right now. You create your own satisfaction and meaning. +--- 14901837 +>>14901818 +>You are responsible for every moment of your life. +Even if you were in a situation not caused by you? +--- 14901858 +>>14900978 +Your profile pictures are just bad. Thats all it is. Get better photoes +--- 14901882 +>>14901818 +society forcing me to go to school where I was surrounded by aggressive lunatics who went through puberty earlier than I did was sure my fault. So let's look -- that's about 10 (most important) years scratched off of my life already thanks to depression, and repeated failures throughout highschool + few more years because I had to make up my lacking education. Totally my fault right? And not that of my retarded parents, people who are in charge of education system? Woke shitstains who only focus on putting women on pedestal and refusing to look at problems of teenage boys? +I am unlikely to ever start a family and have successful relationships based on my track record but I absolutely refuse to take responsibility for that. I take responsibility for improving my life from now on and putting in daily effort, but if I fail and that gets me nowhere then it wasn't my fault. I'll die knowing that western society was a failure, not me. +--- 14901938 +>Read demoralization posts on here +>Remember that irl everyone who wants to has a decent gf + +The internet "community" is the worst thing ever. +--- 14902004 +>>14898581 (OP) +I don't know. I was told to avoid them. +--- 14902031 +>>14898581 (OP) +>If 109 women that you ask out reject you, then it's you. Not the system, not them, not some arbitrary condition but YOU. +>If 109 countries expell you that's different +--- 14902036 +>>14898581 (OP) +Juden Peterstein +--- 14902069 +>>14901837 +Your reaction to that situation would probably speak to you and while you shouldn't flaggelate yourself, you should acknowledge and seek to redeem your flaws in behavior +--- 14902098 +>>14898581 (OP) +no, I disagree with that, giving women a choice in literally anything is why society is infested with vermin. +--- 14902588 +>>14898581 (OP) +What +--- 14902623 +>>14900978 +Perfection. +--- 14902690 +I only date women who don't use social media. They exist. +--- 14902700 +>>14902690 +Good, those are not NPCs. +--- 14902717 +>>14898581 (OP) +If only these women understood the true value of a man like me. They refuse to accept it and miss their chances to get the best. Their rejections are simply the reflections of themselves; they are not valid criticisms. +--- 14902930 +>>14901837 + +Yes. + +>>14901882 + +And? You choose what meaning to ascribe to that. You make your own happiness. + +Read and apply the Power of Now and you guys could actually live a content life. + +Also, stop caring about this material world. It has nothing to offer but misery. Do not let it upset you. Instead, use it only so far as it supports your practical needs. +--- 14902942 +>>14901882 + +Meant to add it doesn't matter who is at "fault." Fault is a concept that YOU ascribe. The past doesn't exist. Only the present moment exists. Disconnect yourself from your thinking and you'll see that all these thoughts are not generated by you, but by your egoic mind. Your egoic mind builds up an ego, a narrative, in order to protect you. But true courage is telling your egoic mind that you don't need protection and that you're in control. It's called taking agency over your own life. Stop allowing your egoic mind to control you. You are the one in control. +--- 14902952 +>>14901938 +you don't hear about lonely men in real life because politicians want to just shove this issue under the rug, and when you meet and socialize with people you artificially select for outgoing people who somehow are successful in this system. But all newest research says that about 60% of (young?) men are lonely. Better look at your family. +--- 14903007 +>>14902952 +There would be a mass shooting pushback if those numbers were to be believed. +--- 14903058 +>>14903007 +I think that's because those men get their partial socialization fill from sources like social media, streamers (parasocial relationship), or discord "friends". Take those things away and they would be out there wrecking shit up. +--- 14903261 +>>14900642 +It's called work. +And women love competent men. +--- 14903264 +>>14898581 (OP) +>if you can't meet modern women's insane standards it's on you +--- 14903268 +>>14900286 +>Just have social skills and be extroverted broo xD +Thank you for your brainlet input. +--- 14903278 +>>14898581 (OP) +Maybe from a modern perspective. +--- 14903308 +>>14903268 +You can trail extroversion. +--- 14903315 +>>14900339 +you're a poor country +--- 14903321 +>>14903308 +>just switch you personality 180 +thank you retard +--- 14903334 +>>14898679 +What are the ages of these women? +--- 14903335 +>>14902036 +Go sully another site, you coward. +--- 14903358 +>>14898679 +>just wait until you are 40 brooooooo +--- 14903369 +>>14901148 +I want a gf now when I'm in my physical peak in my 20's not at 40 you fucking shit for brains TRP imbecile. +>hurrrr Chad is 75 years old acktually +No he isn't, Chads were literally fucking at 15 or so, if anything they stopped fucking as much after 30 you guys are nuclear copers. +--- 14903374 +this >>14898638 + +If you were some turbo gigachad you'd have a gf, sure, but things are more difficult for men today, it has never been like this in history. Take anyone from previous generations and raise them in a society where they are socially alienated and everyone is brainwashed to think men are toxic and you'd see similar results. + +Further, even if we were to strive to become gigachad, we would only be doing it to conform to this demoralized neurotic society. Why bother? There are plenty of other options in life. Why not strive to become a good christian man and marry a christian woman and live the traditional lifestyle your ancestors did before the "sexual revolution"? Why conform to a society that hates you? It's a dead end, the future belongs to ethnic minorities and the few white people still raising families. + +It is time to give up on the whole leftist experiment that began in the 60s, we can see the writing on the wall now, it has run its course. It was all a ruse to corrupt and weaken us, we would be much happier without it. Yes, work hard, work on yourself to get a wife, but work AGAINST the system dragging you down, not with it. +--- 14903561 +>>14898581 (OP) +Why is he cosplaying as the TF2 announcer? +--- 14903692 +>>14898715 +This. Might makes right + +>>14899073 +Rent free? +--- 14903701 +>>14901416 +That’s why women shouldn’t be trusted with matters of the state. Nothing they select for has any basis in logic. They are retarded. All of them. +--- 14903718 +I'm sad this post is dripping with resentment. The people around you are a mirror of yourself, if you are surrounded by ugly, degenerate non-virgin women, what does that say about you? +--- 14903722 +>>14898958 +>There are no women at bars +Wrong, I fucked one a month ago +>No women “out on the town” +Wrong, I got their number a week ago +--- 14903726 +>>14903718 +>post +thread* +--- 14903736 +>>14899992 +People go to bars, they just meet women online beforehand that they then take to the bar. Women don't go to bars anymore unless someone's already taking them. +--- 14903968 +>>14898581 (OP) +>>14898581 (OP) +Of course he is correct but that doesn't mean that it's enough to wash your penis or that you should now like feminism all of a sudden. + +I'm living proof that women care about more than good looks because I'm good looking and got rejected multiple times. + +One might say I increased the chances of getting rejected by falling in love with unattainable girls (unattainable not because of their superior looks but because of their peculiar connection to me). You can be very good looking but if you're a loner, a creep if you give off serial killer vibes women can almost smell that. +--- 14903987 +>>14898581 (OP) + +>If everyone around you is saluting Hitler except you You're the problem not them. +--- 14904009 +>>14898581 (OP) +Yes, but that doesn't mean that the "problem" is solvable +--- 14904029 +>>14903007 +The world isn't America, in most of the Western world it's 1 extremely hard to commit a mass slaughter 2 the consequences (spending the rest of your life in prison or having to kill yourself) are enough to put off most people, and depression doesn't always equate being a psycho full of rage or even bloodlust +--- 14904036 +>>14898581 (OP) +Nobody wants to think that women have unrealistic standards. +--- 14904038 +>>14903968 +>You can be very good looking but if you're a loner, a creep if you give off serial killer vibes women can almost smell that. +Just lol +The famous female personality detector meme +--- 14904045 +>>14903968 +And you know you're good looking because... your mom and your aunt told you? Lol. + +Being in shape or not short doesn't make you necessarily good looking +--- 14904057 +>>14904045 +It kind of does +Very few men are in shape and not short, contrary to the LARP you hear on this site +--- 14904062 +>>14904045 +>And you know you're good looking because... your mom and your aunt told you? +You mean they lied? +--- 14904172 +>>14904045 +>>14904045 +I've been told that I'm very good looking and that girls must be waiting in line all my life. I know this is the internet but I'm objectively good looking by these evolutionary psychology / lookism criteria as I'm tall, have light hunter eyes, a good jaw line, beautiful hands, naturally good teeth and so on. But I'm painfully shy and I might have some type of personality disorder. I had a gf in the past and had sex with multiple women but years of isolation have basically made me a modern Fredrick Clegg. +--- 14904216 +>>14904172 +>I've been told that I'm very good looking and that girls must be waiting in line all my life +Yes, your parents and friends lie to you to be ncie and because they know you're depressed and / or have no confidence, happened to me to, doesn't make you attractive. At best you're average +--- 14904229 +>>14898581 (OP) +Yes, it is YOU that are ugly or genetically unfit because of autism or other disorders. +--- 14904250 +>>14901003 +what a fucking cope. Men get uglier and uglier incommensurably every year by the time they're 30, sometimes evern sooner. + + +>but you have more money!!!1! + +1) not necessarily +2)even if you do at best you're gnna get some washed up eastern european / third world goldigging whore who'll empty your wallet and leave you for a younger, more good looking actual chad + +Now that women don't need a man to be independent that meme about muh old guys slayers is over. +--- 14904266 +>>14901148 +Lol Chad is 30? The chaddest guys I know started in fucking middle schoold and got hotther and hotter girlfriends in Highschool and Uni and still do now that they're almost 30. Fuck I would much rather get sexual life from 13 to 30 and then never have sex again that having no young lovers and starting a sex life with washed up infertile desperate whores and retarded goldiggers when I'm 30-40 +--- 14904270 +>>14898581 (OP) +yes wow how defuq did he come to that realization :) +--- 14904290 +>>14898581 (OP) +what a genius +--- 14904293 +:) +--- 14904453 +>>14898581 (OP) +True. +I mean, if you only get rejected then either you aren't asking enough women out, or there is something wrong with you. +Perhaps you don't have good hygiene or posture, or you don't know how to talk to women or which women are in your league. + +Sure there are plenty of problems with modern dating, but I think the manosphere overstates them. +I don't think 'modern women' have really changed all that much. Maybe they are less good at being wives, but I don't think they're that much harder to get +--- 14904627 +>>14904453 +>or which women are in your league +This is such a dumb statement, you either like X or not. We are souls with bodies, not bodies with souls, as the Muslims say. +--- 14904636 +I regret making this thread. +Jannies please delete. +Resentful garbage. +--- 14904639 +>>14903315 +Yeah but we are rich in sovl and that all that matters +--- 14904655 +>>14898834 +good post +--- 14904689 +>>14900378 +>tfw your agreeableness as measured with the Big5 is in the 10th percentile and you still don't have sex +--- 14904751 +>>14898581 (OP) +Women owe me sex +--- 14904845 +>>14904751 +They owe you a meal and some talk. +--- 14904941 +>>14898581 (OP) +No, he is absolutely dead wrong. Modern women are worse than cancer. They're responsible for all of the sexual societal ills that came after the Sexual Revolution. Our patriarchal male ancestors have been greatly vindicated by the degenerate age we're living in. Let this be a lesson learned. +--- 14904972 +>>14898581 (OP) +109 women rejected me, I'm clearly being persecuted diff --git a/his/14898852.txt b/his/14898852.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..04545c3b060c131e8a9f419d6c03b821308a63e3 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14898852.txt @@ -0,0 +1,323 @@ +----- +--- 14898852 +Right-wing atheists will often say abortion is "eugenic". Is there any actual proof of this? +--- 14898861 +>>14898852 (OP) +Nothing wrong with eugenics, per se. It's wrong to enforce it on people from the top down though. +--- 14898864 +>>14898852 (OP) +Most aborted babies are niggers +--- 14898869 +>>14898852 (OP) +the early advocates for birth control were eugenicists +--- 14898870 +>>14898852 (OP) +>Right wing +>Atheists +--- 14898879 +>>14898852 (OP) +The sorts of people who get abortions are those with low impulse control (hence accidental pregnancy) and who don't value anything sacred (such as chastity or human life). These attitudes and temperaments are largely heritable, therefore abortion is eugenic. +--- 14898882 +>>14898870 +There's a huge infight between Christians and eugenicists on /pol/ and RW Twitter when it comes to abortion +--- 14898883 +>>14898870 +>>>/pol/ +See for yourself. +--- 14898897 +>>14898879 +This. +--- 14898901 +>>14898882 +>>14898883 +/pol/ is dead. 90% of its users are bots. I do not visit that board anymore. +--- 14898908 +>>14898901 +>90% of its users are bots +Most of the Internet is like this +--- 14898913 +>>14898901 +It's not just bots. I don't even think that /pol/ has that much organic traffic because whenever any right-wing e-celeb does anything the entire board gets filled with shills from their telegram promoting their website or youtube channel. +--- 14898918 +>>14898861 +Are you proposing a grassroots eugenics movement? +--- 14898926 +>>14898852 (OP) +Simple, the caliber of woman who would want to get an abortion is the kind of woman who should be getting them anyway. Self-selection. +--- 14898936 +>>14898852 (OP) +Blacks are low IQ and violent by nature +Blacks have the most abortions per capita + +VIOLA! +--- 14898942 +>>14898908 +The D e a d I n t e r n e t t h e o r y is just a theory, for now. + +>>14898913 +/pol/ is very clearly a h o n e y p o t . 4chan, 8 c h a n and such radicalised forums are always heavily monitored and shilled. +t. has spent a long time on /x/ and /pol/ + +P.S. Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again. +P.P.S. I've been trying to post for 5 minutes now +--- 14898944 +>>14898870 +I'm a right wing atheist, ask me nothing +--- 14898980 +>>14898870 +It makes dating pretty tough for me lmao +--- 14898987 +>>14898852 (OP) +Is this from some pregnant JAV porn? Serial number? +--- 14898993 +>>14898987 +Stop watching porn idiot +--- 14898996 +>>14898987 +They're not pregnant in the original pic, I blessed their wombs with AI. +Sadly I can't find the original pic +--- 14899035 +>>14898852 (OP) +eugenics is only moral if its androcentric, not gynocentric. +--- 14899050 +>>14898879 +Beta argument, the word impulsive is a way pathetic nerds who got stuffed into lockers at school try to stigmatize the socially dominant +--- 14899052 +>>14898996 +What jav is this from and what AI software do you use? +--- 14899055 +>>14898852 (OP) +Sex-selective abortion would solve the incel crisis. If we abort 80% of male fetuses, the other 20% will be guaranteed to be swimming in pussy. You couldn't be an incel in that world because women would be forced to fuck you lest they end up alone +--- 14899056 +You can kinda get proof of it in a “saying the quiet part out loud” kind of way. Abortion started as a progressive thing and until mustache man biological racists and secular progressives were united around the socially hygienic role of abortion. Even today liberal proponents of abortion often strongly imply that there is some implicit eugenic function; “poor and uneducated women need access to reproductive healthcare so they can get their careers on track” and such does imply that the poor and uneducated will be culled. There is significant difference in intent sure, abortions are being promoted to make the lives of individual poor and uneducated women better and not for the hygiene or improvement of society, but the biological impact of abortion is the same either way. Poor and black and brown women do abort at higher rates, so the goal of racist and progressive eugenicists is achieved even though the moral justification for abortion has been altered to be individualistic and nominally for woman’s benefit. Sometimes though you do get cynical lefties saying stuff like “if you chuds don’t allow abortions for poor people, should have to pay for the children’s healthcare/woman’s foodstamps etc.” This means that lefties do believe that those seeking abortions are socially dysfunctional and insolvent +--- 14899059 +>>14899052 +>What jav is this from +Don't know the source +> and what AI software do you use? +Stable Diffusion +--- 14899070 +>>14898918 +>what is human reproduction? +--- 14899077 +>>14899055 +wouldn't work unless incel phenotypes were detected in the womb and eradicated accordingly. Women will quite literally fuck dogs before incels so you can't just throw off the sex ratio and expect them to lower their standards. +--- 14899104 +>>14899050 +You mean people get pregnant on purpose and then abort their children? +--- 14899122 +>>14899077 +NTA, but lemme just interject here and point out that women who fuck dogs are typically doing so for money. They'd gladly fuck whatever you imagine an incel to look like for money too if said incel had money to give them. +--- 14899152 +>>14898852 (OP) +Why would a "Christian" care about eugenics? +--- 14899154 +>>14898852 (OP) +>Right-wing atheists will often say abortion is "eugenic" +As right-wing as i can be abortion is a way to purge genetics considered unfit or defective, but it must be combined with data, the needs for human resources, and advanced technology to understand if those individuals are really needed if you want a central planner to take care about that. + +It could be a way to decrease sufference from bad genetics, or a way to condemn your race as you dangerously decrease genetic diversity resulting in being unable to cope with environmental change if your way to practice it is scientifically retarded, but so far artificial selection multiplies genetic diversity and you can see it in domestic animals like dogs or plants like pic related. + +In conclusion, as a libertarian, do whatever the fuck you want, it is self-selection from dumb whores anyways as others pointed out. +--- 14899171 +>>14899152 +They don't +--- 14899202 +>>14899171 +Then why would they care if Atheists think abortion is eugenic? +--- 14899222 +>>14898852 (OP) +Nothing wrong with eugenics. I hope abortions remain accessible for minorities. +--- 14899226 +>>14899202 +Because "dude you're playing god", and nature for these types is not a struggle for survival, but a struggle to get rewarded at the end of your life. +--- 14899265 +>>14899222 +Why do white ladies in Europe abort the kids they have with white men but never the kids they have with non white men? +--- 14899271 +>>14899265 +Source? +--- 14899273 +>>14899265 +stats? +--- 14899285 +>>14899265 +Niggers get more abortions. I don't believe there are statistics on white women getting pregnant by niggers +--- 14899301 +>>14899122 +I'm just saying if you put a golden retriever and an incel in front of a woman and told her if she had sex with either one one of them she would get 10 billion dollars, 100% of them would go with the dog. +--- 14899328 +>>14899285 +I’m talking about Europe dumb mutt. +>>14899271 +Just my lived experience in Europe. Minorities here don’t really get abortions (i guess they take religion seriously) so European women make up the main users of abortion clinics. Nearly every European country has below replacement birth rates yet i see white women with mixed kids all the time. Some of these women are poor or young (uni students etc) so they should get be getting abortions as their quality of life is low so their kid will live a pretty shitty life…yet they choose not to and keep the baby instead even if they have to raise it alone. Why do white women who get pregnant with white men’s kids not do the same? I see many white couples but not many white kids. They give the same excuse “oh we’re poor” “oh I just graduated” but white women who are pregnant with mixed kids in the same situation still choose to give birth. Why? +--- 14899330 +>>14899265 +the source is my ass i guess +--- 14899342 +>>14899328 +>i see thing so it must be true +i see a lot of shit yet i'm the one crazy +--- 14899345 +>>14898852 (OP) +https://www.bitchute.com/video/BPUFn7sgGrqR/ +https://www.bitchute.com/video/0Ivohc1810rV/ +--- 14899353 +>>14899330 +>>14899342 +It is kinda shameful so I see why you’re so opposed to it but it’s the truth. You read about low birth rates across europe but see white women with mixed kids all the time. In schools the kids are all either non white (immigrant mothers pumping kids out like they do back home) or mixed with a white mother. Am I supposed to not notice this? +--- 14899361 +>>14899353 +Lol Europe will sink into the Third World. Can't wait to observe the social dysfunction. Women deserve to live in a shithole multicultural country for not having sex with me +--- 14899376 +>>14899361 +I don’t think this is true. I think most whites guys are OK with it. Whenever it comes to the euros/World Cup they cheer on either fully black or mixed (white mother always) players and see them as no different to the white players. There was a scandal with a mixed player in the UK who beat his white gf and her own white father was encouraging her to not report him and to get back with the abusive mixed guy. +--- 14899387 +>>14899353 +No it's not that you're not supposed to notice shit, it's that i don't notice the same thing. + +But i also noted where do you want to go with this discussion with muh cope and seethe, so i'd like to ask why those white women you see with mixed kids are so common where you live. +--- 14899406 +>>14899376 +>I think most whites guys are OK with it. +Nah +https://t.me/racerealismchannel/73 +--- 14899409 +>>14899328 +I'm talking about niggers in Europe and the US you dumb fuck +--- 14899410 +>>14899376 +>There was a scandal with a mixed player in the UK who beat his white gf and her own white father was encouraging her to not report him and to get back with the abusive mixed guy +This is just standard white people cuckoldry. See also the case of Mollie Tibbetts +--- 14899423 +>>14899410 +Or because, you know, money. +--- 14899430 +>>14899387 +I don’t know why they’re so common, I have only lived in big cities though but when I visit towns in the countryside I notice the odd mixed kid and wonder where they came from and what they’re doing in a 100% white area. I have lived in Sweden, England, Norway and France and noticed the same thing in all of these countries. It is not limited to Swedish/English/Norwegian/french women because in England in particular I’d say many of these mixed have mothers from Eastern European countries. These women can barely speak English but have mixed kids. It’s strange. +>>14899406 +These white men are a minority though. The majority get on their knees before football games and have no issue with interracial couples +--- 14899436 +>>14899409 +Are you trying to say niggers in Europe abort their kids more than whites in Europe like they do in the US? Because that is not true +--- 14899443 +>>14898901 +Say the bot (you) +--- 14899444 +>>14899430 +>These white men are a minority though. The majority get on their knees before football games and have no issue with interracial couples +How the hell would you know? +If we're going by hunches, I have a feeling most people deep down find racemixing repulsive and creepy, but they pretend otherwise because saying it out loud would be a social death sentence +--- 14899456 +>>14899430 +well if it's true it is interesting, because i'm southern european and i don't see the same phenomena even amongst the whitest phenotypes here, what the fuck are nords even doing? +--- 14899464 +>>14899444 +If that was true then there would be a lot less interracial relationships. They could simply tell their kids to not bring home non white partners or they would kick them out/cut them off. Instead I see old white people chasing after their mixed grandkids in the store. They could stop supporting musicians/sports stars who aren’t white but only date white ladies instead i see rap concerts full of white kids and whites commenting heart eyes under black players posts with their white gf’s. Baffling. +--- 14899474 +>>14899456 +During my brief visits to southern Europe, I saw interracial couples but only ever black woman/white man, never the other way around. There weren’t many black man around though unlike other European countries, just mainly black women. Oh and the odd white girl/nafri couple +--- 14899499 +>>14899464 +Interracial relationships are actually quite rare, and rarely result in kids. The type I see most often on the street is older white woman + younger black guy +--- 14899501 +>>14898870 +You can be right wing for economic reasons and also just hating woke culture. +--- 14899508 +>>14899474 +ok i can confirm this as i was in the same highschool class with a mulatto guy with a native father, still i suppose this thing is not that common i see both races minding their own kind mainly +--- 14899548 +>>14899436 +in the US in absolute numbers in Europe in relative numbers, yes +--- 14899573 +>>14899499 +>rarely result in kids. +Yet Europe is full of mixed kids. Nearly every European team (excluding Eastern European countries whose mixed players never play for them) have 1-2 mixed players on their national teams either playing or as a backup. What I would see most often was: +England: black guy/white woman +Sweden: nafri/white woman or asian woman/white man or black guy/white woman +France: black guy/white woman or nafri man/white woman or black man/nafri woman or black woman/white man (prevalent in the south of france) +Norway: same as sweden but with more muslim woman (of all races)/white man couples +>>14899548 +Maybe this is true in the US but in Europe I doubt it. I would say 55% of blacks here are muslim and therefore stay away from abortions. I do believe mixed women have a high abortion rate though +--- 14899582 +>>14899573 +For Europe it's impossible to say as there are no statistics on race and abortion. I invite you to spend some time in an abortion clinic in Europe and look at the kind of people that go there. Might change your mind +--- 14899593 +>>14898944 +Christ was a blond Aryan? +--- 14899610 +>>14899573 +Alright, the problem is football teams are not the population. i'd like to see statistics even if i think racemixing in europe is not rare. +--- 14899618 +for some reason now i want to go outside and classify every couple i see and their kids +--- 14899680 +>>14898852 (OP) +>ight-wing atheists will often say abortion is "eugenic". Is there any actual proof of this? +it can certainly be a tool for eugenics, but not if its done voluntarily. Which none of them are brave enough to suggest. So much for Nietzche! + +>>14898879 +Nope, really dumb people have the kid anyway, because they can't be arsed to get an abortion. +--- 14899728 +>>14899593 +Pretty sure that's supposed to be some sort of native from Britain hence the woad +--- 14900898 +>>14899618 +>classify +? +--- 14901061 +>>14898852 (OP) +According to Steve Sailer abortion is dysgenic +https://twitter.com/WesleyHoratio/status/1647360596105363457 +--- 14902222 +>>14899423 +No, it's psychological +--- 14902243 +>>14898852 (OP) +Iceland nearly eliminating Down’s syndrome babies is one example +--- 14902339 +>>14899301 +Man has never talked to a woman in his life +--- 14902377 +>>14898936 +There was an episode of Boston legal where they use 1350 as a reason to keep Woe v wade +--- 14902643 +>>14899680 +>not if its done voluntarily. +How is it not eugenic if a dumb whore voluntarily aborts her offspring +--- 14903010 +>>14898852 (OP) +There are lots of studies of which women get abortions, they are usually poor and unmarried. Getting an abortion correlates with being single, poor, low education, low wage, past criminal behaviour, various anti-social proxies etc. The races with the highest degree of these traits (blacks) also most often get abortion, but the correlation remains after controlling for race. The pattern is the same in all countries there is data from. + +The first result I could find om google scholar was this one. +https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=954145193072a92c715cd9d4fcc2013541e85972 +--- 14903077 +>>14898879 +This. Also unwanted pregnancies become unwanted problem children who become adult malcontents that commit crimes and become a burden on society. Plus it's mostly niggers who get abortions and that's basically the only thing keeping their population stable. +--- 14903734 +>>14901061 +Deboonked +--- 14903847 +>>14898870 +I'm a lifelong atheist and my political views would be described as extreme far right by any normalfag. +>>14898852 (OP) +>abort low quality babbies +>fraction of low quality humans in the next generation decreases +You have to be acting stupid on purpose to not see it. There is no other way. + +The funny thing is, until ~2014 and the reddit incel exodus pretty much nobody on the far right had an issue with eugenic abortion. It's only after the new crop of societal rejects decided to "find god" in response to shitposts mocking atheist nerds that serious anti-abortion sentiments became a thing. On old /pol/ anybody going off about muh sanctity of life would've been laughed out of the room for falling for obvious hotbutton D&C +--- 14904005 +>>14903847 +the right and the evangelical movement are married to each other, and are locked in a dysfunctional relationship that only persists because each side knows that losing vast swathes of the religious vote to pro-Israel, pro-immigration, and anti-gun movements would be devastating for their electoral prospects. Evangelicals are the paypigs of the right and that's why they have to throw them a bone on abortion from time to time even though it fucks them at the national level +--- 14904111 +>>14903847 +The skull-fuckingly obvious solution is to make abortion illegal for white people, and mandatory for everyone else. +--- 14904194 +>>14898879 +>who don't value anything sacred (such as chastity or human life) +pretty funny though that the people who lament nobody taking human life seriously anymore also typically make these kind of posts + +>>14898936 +>>14898944 +--- 14904312 +>>14904194 +niggers aren't human, and we never evolved to live side by side with them, which has proven to be an indefensible disaster diff --git a/his/14899041.txt b/his/14899041.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..85e4a557a92040526f3c3cb7f46b76ee6b633e21 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14899041.txt @@ -0,0 +1,466 @@ +----- +--- 14899041 +How different are Irishmen from Anglos? Ethnically and culturally speaking. +--- 14899071 +>>14899041 (OP) +They are more lucky, so don't play them in card game +--- 14899076 +>>14899071 +Umm... source?! +--- 14899085 +>>14899076 +Just watch an Irish person play an RPG on twitch, they always put stats in luck first +--- 14899091 +>>14899041 (OP) +They're extremely close, relatively speaking. Most English dna is from the pre Anglo-Saxon brythonic natives, who were as closely related to the Irish as you could get +--- 14899102 +>>14899097 +All people came from Iran after the flood. +--- 14899125 +>>14899102 +Didn't Noah's Ark land in/on Ararat? +--- 14899127 +>>14899091 +No its not +--- 14899135 +>>14899125 +yep +--- 14899146 +>>14899135 +That not Iran THOUGH +--- 14899162 +>>14899146 +ok, but close enough +--- 14899175 +>>14899041 (OP) +Henry Cavill is Irish +--- 14899176 +>>14899102 +Retard. +--- 14899179 +>>14899146 +--- 14899188 +>>14899176 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3pX2FIc8YQ [Embed] + +ok schizo +--- 14899232 +>>14899188 +Ahh yes, the people of the Middle East, geniuses as they are, do not only build their houses out of mud but also their ships +--- 14899242 +Can someone explain where the hate of the Irish on this board comes from? Is it coping shitskins or genuine british white people? +--- 14899249 +>>14899242 +What would there be for shitskins to cope about? Ireland is run by a mulatto shitskin +--- 14899259 +>>14899232 +So you think we came from apes? +--- 14899260 +>>14899085 +>they always put stats in luck first +I do this but I'm not Irish. +--- 14899264 +>>14899249 +It's a group of white people for them to claim are subhuman and not truly white, thus making themselves feel better about their own situation. +--- 14899267 +>>14899242 +It's a tiktok/reddit meme to pretend to be extremely racist against random white countries. Maybe it's because zoomers can't be racist like boomers used to be so they have to find ways to vent. +--- 14899281 +>>14899264 +What situation? Shitskins can go and migrate to Ireland tomorrow and get citizenship within a year or so. Irish people are subhuman, that’s why they were colonized/barely speak their native language/had their country split in 2/starved instead of eating fish. They might as well be black +--- 14899293 +>>14899259 +I do not consider the question on wether the humans descend from apes as relevant to the question on the descendance of humanity in itself because humans could just as well have descended from bunnies or from pigs, who are much similar to them, in some things more than apes. However, as a polygenesist, I think that the human species descend from at least three very distinct types, isolated from each other, unequal to each other. +--- 14899298 +>>14899041 (OP) +--- 14899306 +>>14899298 +lmao, they're also claiming that all Spaniards and Portuguese are Africans +--- 14899307 +>>14899281 +Their situation of having brown skin that leads to an inferiority complex because of the widespread racism and aryanism here. +What's your definition of subhuman? Because couldn't you call the English lower class subhuman? +>starved instead of eating fish +Allegedly they couldn't because the British wouldn't allow them to fish +--- 14899314 +>>14899041 (OP) +Now post a female with right's phenotype. +--- 14899331 +>>14899306 +They are +--- 14899338 +>>14899307 +Racism is not a big deal in Europe truthfully speaking. Anyone who says otherwise is either race baiting for money (grifting for tv appearances) or coping. Europeans are neutered and keep their racism to themselves most times. So there’s no ‘aryanism’ in Ireland. The English lower class are subhuman, I think white working class boys in England have the lowest GCSE pass rate even below blacks. +--- 14899352 +>>14899331 +Nitpicking ugly Spaniards doesn't prove anything. +I can also do this. Does this picture prove that all Swedes are Asiatics? +--- 14899356 +>>14899352 +Swedes are the biggest faggots of Scandinavia and the amount of mixing they have done with half asian finns is disgusting so yes I agree with you here +--- 14899369 +>>14899356 +>the amount of mixing they have done with half asian finns is disgusting so yes I agree with you here +Source?! +--- 14899373 +>>14899352 +>swarthy moor sees a blond person and thinks they're asiatic +--- 14899380 +>>14899373 +>Eye canthal tilt +>Head breadth +>Nose shape and width +Come on now +--- 14899383 +>>14899281 +>Shitskins can go and migrate to Ireland tomorrow and get citizenship within a year or so +England is way worse as far as immigration is concerned, and has been so for a lot longer. The same is true of all western Europe. Does that not make them all more subhuman than the Irish? +--- 14899386 +>>14899369 +Thank you for admitting Swedes are the biggest faggots. You only have to go there to see the hapa like mongrels for yourself +--- 14899402 +>>14899386 +No but really I need a source +I don't think Swedes and Finns mixed much +--- 14899404 +>>14899383 +It is easier to get Irish citizenship than British as a migrant. England does deportations, Ireland does not. Both countries are pathetic but at least England colonized the world, what has Ireland ever done? +--- 14899413 +>>14899338 +That doesn't answer my original point. If the Irish are subhuman according to your definition then surely are also the British lower class. + +>>14899404 +Why does it need to do anything? Why does a nation need to justify it's existence if it isn't hurting anyone? +--- 14899414 +>>14899402 +Fine +Find out yourself +Funny that you say that +--- 14899418 +>>14899402 +Finns aren't even hapas anyway. They're Swedes that speak a chink language and they have a tiny bit of said chink people who gave them the language floating around in them. China Swedes ;^) +--- 14899426 +>>14899418 +Yes they are +Why would they speak a Finno-Ugric language if they aren't hapas +--- 14899428 +Swedes and Spaniards are white but you probably are not +--- 14899435 +>>14899380 +Swarthy moor doesn't even know what white people look like +>>14899428 +>Spaniards are white +no +--- 14899441 +>>14899426 +They could have been at one time. I don't remember the history. Since then though they're obviously just Balt/Scandinavian people now. We know how much chink is in them, it's like what, 1-5% if that? +--- 14899449 +>>14899426 +By that definition Hungaryans are also hapas. +>>14899435 +>Swarthy moor doesn't even know what white people look like +I'm white myself how can I not know how I look +--- 14899459 +>>14899441 +50% at least +Their population was an originally purely yellow people, barely mixed with whites and not at all with blacks. +--- 14899466 +>I'm white myself how can I not know how I look +--- 14899475 +>>14899449 +> By that definition Hungaryans are also hapas. +Obviously they are although heavily aryanized so. Much like the Dravidians, they are it's northern counterpart. +--- 14899486 +>>14899475 +>Hungarians are asiatic +How far will you go with this? +--- 14899488 +>>14899466 +This is me +--- 14899493 +>>14899459 +>50% at least +kek +--- 14899496 +>>14899486 +There's no such thing as Asiatic. Asia is a continent. The Hungarians are the descendants of the White Huns, a heavily aryanized group of a tribe originally part of the yellow race. +--- 14899500 +>>14899488 +You wouldn't pass even in France +--- 14899502 +>>14899500 +I'm literally French +--- 14899511 +>>14899496 +What percent are they of this race and how do you come to that conclusion? +--- 14899516 +>>14899502 +> +--- 14899523 +>>14899516 +Nordicists are so pathetic. +--- 14899527 +>>14899511 +Because they speak an agglutinative language. Agglutinative languages are the property of the yellow race. Everywhere that a language has aggluninative elements to it, it's speakers broadly descend from the yellow race, although to varying proportions. All of Europe was once inhabitated exclusively by the yellow race but also the entirety of now Russia and Southern Siberia. The whites who inhabitated there came frequently into contact with them. Some integrated the yellow people into their societies while other whites, less fortunate than them, were forcefully put into the societies of the yellow people. Such is the story of the Huns. +--- 14899534 +>>14899527 +>They are not white because the language they speak is agglutinative +That's even more ridiculous than I was expecting, well done +--- 14899545 +>>14899523 +You will never be French +--- 14899550 +>>14899534 +Well, you say this but the very white languages have the ability of composing words into each other. Anywhere a language lacks this ability, the influence of another race has taken an exacerbating influence to the societal corpus, degradating the value of it's people to an ethnic value lower to that of a Germanic or of a Vedian. +--- 14899560 +>>14899550 +I don't quite understand, agglutinative languages allow you to put all the morphemes at the end like suffixes. Do you mean white languages must be fusional? +--- 14899563 +>>14899545 +Why are you so hateful? +--- 14899566 +>>14899560 +Exactly. Fusional languages are of the white race, agglutinative languages of the yellow race, isolating languages of the black race. +--- 14899571 +>>14899563 +>swarthoid sees a group of blonde people +>calls it a hate crime +--- 14899584 +>>14899545 +> Normands.jpg +They look so British to me, maybe it's their clothes + +>>14899566 +Chinese used to be an isolating language and that's why its characters exist and are easily used for other languages. I'd personally consider such languages to be superior as they allow freer expression and can be learned more easily. What do you think of modern English? It's not very fusional anymore. +--- 14899586 +>>14899571 +It is obvious that you are trolling. Good day. +--- 14899594 +>>14899404 +>It is easier to get Irish citizenship than British as a migrant. +what are you basing this on? The criteria are basically the same, not to mention the fact that the uk often makes it even easier for people from ex-colonies to immigrate +>Ireland doesn't do deportations +yes it does +>at least England colonized the world, what has Ireland ever done? +why is whether a country colonized people or not the standard for who is and isn't subhuman? +--- 14899595 +>>14899586 +>Hehe he's just TROLLING haha He doesn't ACTUALLY think Spaniards are brown +--- 14899600 +>>14899571 +kek +--- 14899602 +>>14899488 +That's a Georgian-Slav mix though +--- 14899605 +>>14899584 +> I'd personally consider such languages to be superior as they allow freer expression and can be learned more easily. +Then why don't you speak an isolating language. +> hat do you think of modern English? It's not very fusional anymore. +Dewhitification. +--- 14899621 +>>14899605 +Because English is my native language and I already speak it. I'm saying if I had to choose say another language to communicate in I'd choose one like that. Why do you think fusional languages are better? +>Dewhitification. +What do you think caused that? +--- 14899623 +>>14899602 +Yes, I am from Georgia originally +--- 14899632 +>>14899623 +>Georgian calling Swedes Asiatic +Bahahaha +--- 14899636 +>>14899516 +Is anyone able to tell me what Varg's definition of white (or nordic, or however he calls it) is? I've been wondering for a while but never cared to watch his videos. +--- 14899640 +>>14899632 +We are 100% West Eurasian +--- 14899645 +>>14899621 +> Why do you think fusional languages are better? +I don't. +> What do you think caused that? +The conquering whites did not have the ability of turning the locals to speak a white language or only halfway so. After the inevitable fusion of the elements that came afterwards, there was no pure whites left who could have done such a task, and English became what it is now. +--- 14899662 +>>14899640 +And 0% French +>>14899636 +Anyone with light hair(blond, red, light brown), +light eyes(Blue, green,), pale skin and a Caucasoid skull +--- 14899663 +>>14899645 +I'm sorry for assuming you thought that +>conquering whites +>locals +Who are these? +--- 14899679 +>>14899663 +The locals are members of the yellow race, short in stature, slanted eyes, broad hips, not much facial hair. Then come Celts and other white people, heavily degenerated though because of contact with the yellow race. Then come the Romans, a white people but also heavily mixed with yellow and afterwards also with white people of a distinct type and inevitably black-ish. The top of the pyramid is taken by the Anglo-Saxons, an originally Aryan tribe, directly mixed with lesser members of the white race. +--- 14899689 +>>14899679 +But who are these locals? What are they? Where did they live? The indigenous people of Britain are Celts. +--- 14899704 +>>14899689 +Yes but before them, yellows inhabitated the land, the pit-fen, faunus, Fen and Fiona, fin, fin-landers, the pit-goma, pygmy people, the dwarfs and the nains, nanus. +--- 14899705 +>>14899662 +So what is light brown hair? Is it dark blond or actually brown hair? Does the guy whose head is turned at the top centre >>14899545 have dark brown hair? +I'm curious if he'd consider me white now I thought his definition was Scandinavian. +--- 14899709 +>>14899636 +Varg uses the terms "nordic" and "european" interchangeably, as he believes all of europe was originally blonde nordic. He's actually a lot less exclusionary than he's made out to be, though. He's made a lot of posts defending northern/western europeans with dark hair/eyes as "still mostly european with some small non-european admixture", and he draws a distinction between them and swarthy southern europeans who he seems to think are a totally different thing. +--- 14899715 +>>14899709 +Why do we still use the Anglo-American term like "white"? +--- 14899719 +>>14899709 +>as he believes all of europe was originally blonde nordic. +To him what's the appeal of that? I don't get why you'd want all white people to look the same when we're the most diverse of races. + +>>14899715 +Why not? +--- 14899724 +>>14899705 +>So what is light brown hair +--- 14899726 +>>14899715 +Probably because it works very well colloquially. It's easier for americans to say than something like "of european descent" and doesn't invite as much questioning. +--- 14899734 +>>14899719 +>To him what's the appeal of that? I don't get why you'd want all white people to look the same when we're the most diverse of races. +I don't think it's based on some "appeal", rather he genuinely believes that anything other than blond, blue eyed "nordic" is the result of non-european admixture (even red hair). +--- 14899737 +>>14899724 +So I'm probably not white according to Varg. I'd like to say I'm not upset at this. + +>>14899726 +White is naturally associated with light and good things. I don't know why he'd be against that for any reason other than anti-American sentiment. +--- 14899743 +>>14899734 +>non-european admixture +What's wrong with that then? +--- 14899760 +OP here, I never intended for this thread to become a race-bait. I am sorry to everyone. +--- 14899769 +>>14899743 +I don't know exactly what varg's response to that would be but it shouldn't be hard to deduce from his general viewpoints. He clearly greatly values the nordic/european race, his people, who are perfectly adapted to their environment and with an ancestral culture and lineage that he holds as sacred (and he gets quite metaphysical about this), and clearly he thinks outside admixture is some kind of corruption of all that. +--- 14899777 +>>14899760 +>I never intended for this thread to become a race-bait. +then what's with the OP image? +>I don't know why he'd be against that +I don't think he is; he uses the term white a lot +--- 14899791 +>>14899777 +>then what's with the OP image? +It was supposed to be a lighthearted joke. I didn't know /his/ took this subject so seriously. +--- 14899827 +>>14899516 +Varg is a White Hotep. +--- 14900180 +>>14899306 +But... they are. +--- 14900488 +>>14899743 +>>14899769 +He believes that Nordics can are the pure descendants of Neanderthals (who were all autistic), and he traces European Paganism back to the Neanderthal Bear Cult. Implication being that Nordic people have lived in Europe for 100,000+ years and are perfectly adapted to their environment, plus its the whole 'blood & soil' thing. Almost more importantly pertains to his belief that European Paganism was heavily centred around reincarnation which was transmitted either through genetic memory or some mystical spiritual shit (he makes no solid claim), both of which have a strong racial component. + +Basically he's a fucking retard, but it is amusing to see what schizophrenic stuff he comes out with +--- 14900829 +anglish mutts have snubbed noses. +--- 14900830 +>>14899352 +Yes. +--- 14902140 +>>14900997 +>G. O'Rilla +I'm dead +--- 14902218 +>>14900997 +Pre-WW1 bantz were off the charts LOL +--- 14902253 +>>14899041 (OP) +Henri de Caville is french though +--- 14902292 +>>14899041 (OP) +Cavill isnt an anglo-germanic. He is a french-norman phenotype, IE the phenotype of the english ruling class since 1066 +--- 14902297 +>>14902292 +>celto-germanic +>french-norman +This is literally the same fucking thing. +--- 14902309 +>>14899175 +He is very obviously Norman +>>14899041 (OP) +Isn't the obese bitch on the left Jewish? +--- 14902335 +>>14902253 +>>14902292 +>>14902309 +Cope, he's of trve English stock +--- 14902360 +>>14899041 (OP) +Proof god has a sense of humor, he put the most successful race right next to the least successful one. Irish "history" consists of nothing more than being buck broken by different masters and getting mogged by Anglos repeatedly. +None of them even speak their own unintelligible language anymore, fenians coping about their inferiority has been degenerated to such a pathetic state that they celebrate when the queen dies peacefully in her sleep of natural causes. +--- 14902422 +>>14902309 +He is literally of Irish descent +>His Jersey-born mother, Marianne Dalgliesh, is of Scottish, English and Irish heritage +>>14902292 +Normans don't look like that +>>14899545 +--- 14902492 +>>14902360 +>he put the most successful race right next to the least successful one. +I didn't know Ireland was next to Germany. +--- 14902814 +>>14902360 +How do you define the success of a "race"? +>Irish "history" +The oldest building ever is in Ireland +--- 14903172 +>>14902814 +>The oldest building ever is in Ireland +I like Ireland but this is just a cope +--- 14903185 +>>14899352 +That's a Finn +--- 14903190 +>>14899331 +How exactly does this guy look African +--- 14904058 +>>14899041 (OP) +>How different are Irishmen from Anglos? Ethnically and culturally speaking. +This is alpinid vs atlanto-med +--- 14904066 +>>14899352 +>yep +Isn't that a Finn? He is a savolaxid east baltid +--- 14904071 +>>14899331 +>>14903190 +He doesn't that's a gracile mediterranean +--- 14904079 +>>14899249 +>What would there be for shitskins to cope about? +A hell of a lot of things, shitskins cannot exist without coping +--- 14904102 +>>14902292 +>french +>norman +lol, french ruling castes are flemish/dutch since the merovingian period, let alone normans +regular french are potato headed goblinos descended from gaulish slaves +--- 14904720 +>>14899369 +lol is that the chess guy? +--- 14904880 +>>14899041 (OP) +This diagram was from Punch magazine, a humorous publication, it bears no relation whatsoever to anthropology +--- 14904889 +>>14904880 +YOU DON'T SAY?! +--- 14904903 +>>14904889 +You may know this, but many people such as >>14899298, take it seriously diff --git a/his/14899899.txt b/his/14899899.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8bc87ba795dee37a862fbdfe5aaef9b5b6ac49eb --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14899899.txt @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +----- +--- 14899899 +Retard here. Why is Trotsky so hated my marxist-leninists? +--- 14899912 +>>14899899 (OP) +He was an ugly goat faced little jew with an inhumane ideology, I’m glad he died an excruciatingly painful death. +--- 14899916 +>>14899912 +Ice pick to the brain doesn't actually sound very painful. +--- 14900309 +>>14899899 (OP) +Because Daddy Stalin said so. +--- 14900369 +>>14899912 +>with an inhumane ideology +True, but that's rich coming from a fucking Nazi lmao +--- 14900593 +>>14899916 +It was a pickaxe and he lingered for a while + +>>14900369 +I’m not a Nazi + +I’m a fascist +--- 14900631 +>>14899899 (OP) +--- 14900690 +>>14899899 (OP) +Two main reasons: +1. Stalin is arguably the single most important historical leader (not theorist) for Marxist-Leninists, and Trotsky was his main political adversary. +2. Trotskyists post-Trotsky are by and large hostile to all socialist countries; Trotsky thought the USSR was a "degenerated worker's state," i.e. not perfect but still better than capitalist society. On the other hand, most modern Trotskyists believe the USSR stopped being socialist as soon as Stalin took over, and therefore also that all nominally Marxist states are actually frauds masquerading as socialist countries. This idea didn't come from Trotsky himself, but it gets projected onto him by Marxist-Leninists. +--- 14900762 +Trotsky was a real communist and wanted perpetual revolution and a weak government, this is too dangerous an ideology so he was offed +--- 14900886 +>>14899899 (OP) +depends on who you ask, theres different takes on him by tons of them +when it comes to commie figures who were influencial just assume there is not and has not been any real conscensus on em +--- 14900945 +>>14899899 (OP) +Cult around daddy Stalin. +--- 14900975 +>>14899899 (OP) +By Stalinists, not by marxist-leninists. +--- 14901145 +>>14900975 +"Marxist-Leninists" is the term Stalinists use for themselves. Trotskyists call themselves Marxists and Leninists, but not Marxist-Leninists. +--- 14901345 +>>14899916 +He got to watch his genetic lineage extinguished before he passed. +--- 14901394 +>>14899899 (OP) +>ok at taking Tsarist officer's families hostage and forcing them to fight for you in exchange for the lives of the families, win the civil war this way +>lose out on the post-Lenin power struggle because you're universally hated by everybody +>get to go into exile instead of getting shot in an NKVD basement +>spend entire time in exile being a whiny bitch, complaining about how policies he had supported were being implemented by Stalin but not as good as he would have implemented them +It's worth remembering that Khruschev never tried even a little bit to rehabilitate Trotsky despite his massive effort of de-Stalinization, so contrary to popular belief it's not just Stalinists who want nothing to do with Trotsky +--- 14901399 +>>14901357 +No, that drawing was actually a storyboard for Death Wish 6. +--- 14902414 +>>14899899 (OP) +Jews +--- 14902689 +>>14900631 +Why did you remove the star of david pendant +--- 14902699 +>>14899899 (OP) + +Marxist leninists love the USSR + +Trotsky hated the USSR (For the most part) because "It wasn't real communism" + +Therefore MLs hate Trotsky, considering him a traitor +--- 14902725 +>>14899899 (OP) + +He was a valuable asset for the construction and foundation of the USSR, but he betrayed the Soviet government for the sake of his own ego +--- 14902805 +>>14899899 (OP) +As I understand it, Maoism was basically sanitized Trockyism. He hated Stalin for not being communist *enough*. +--- 14902986 +>>14899912 +>an inhumane ideology +So why do *other* communists hate him? +--- 14903115 +>>14900975 +Weil-chan spat in his face in her apartment +--- 14903365 +>>14899899 (OP) +Every dead kike is a blessing. +--- 14903385 +>>14900975 +To be more precise than the first poster, "Marxism-Leninism" is the official name of Stalin's ideology as coined by himself. Opponents of Stalin reject the term. +--- 14903431 +>>14899899 (OP) +Trotsky did nothing wrong albeit +--- 14903442 +Marxist-Leninists pretty much only hate him cause he hated Stalin. The differences between Marxism-Leninism and Trotskyism is pretty much just socialism in one country vs internationalism +--- 14904764 +>>14903442 +Also LGBT and lack of conservatism. +Trotsky is literal globohomo. diff --git a/his/14899923.txt b/his/14899923.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..da7643e424f24abe90f489df6d771e5619376c71 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14899923.txt @@ -0,0 +1,369 @@ +----- +--- 14899923 +As you all know apartheid fell, and blacks came into power. They took advantage of the system and just switched roles. Now the blacks are enjoying a wealthy, western style life in the society that whites build, while the whites live in slums and are poor af + +One idea that a lot of radicals had back in the day (and a lot still advocate for it) is the idea of a volksstaat. Basically having this small part of the country you see in pic related become an independent nation from the rest of south africa. The whites would then move there and live in peace while the blacks have the complete rest of south africa for themselves. + +Could this have been achieved? This would have been ideal. +--- 14899930 +>>14899923 (OP) +>Now the blacks are enjoying a wealthy, western style life in the society that whites build, while the whites live in slums and are poor af +But that didn't happen at all +--- 14899949 +>>14899923 (OP) +>The whites would then move there and live in peace while the blacks have the complete rest of south africa for themselves +So they lost after getting years of graft and power and now want to move to another part of SA and seize land from the Coloureds who live there? Land that isnt exactly that bountiful? +--- 14899951 +>>14899923 (OP) +No. Apartheid was their only viable shot at anything like that and we all know how that ended up. +--- 14899959 +only way it was feasibly possible is with massive population transfers, the will of the black population to accept this, and the will of the international community to accept this, none of these were feasibly possible +--- 14900157 +There's no water there. They would have to depend on blacks. +--- 14900330 +>>14899923 (OP) +Please stop trying to take parts of South Africa. Just go home already. +--- 14900346 +>>14900157 +Pretty sure Orania is right next to a river and they do way better than 90% of that shithole. +--- 14900367 +>>14899923 (OP) +They didn't want separation per se, but domination. Specifically the Afrikaners I mean, they wanted to be the ruling class and have black servants and such, to be a managerial elite free from manual labor. They realize now I think that that was a bad idea, but I don't blame them because manual labor sucks. The idea behind Orania for example is the opposite of that, where they do all the shitty jobs themselves and are self-reliant. +--- 14900371 +>>14899951 +yeah international pressure forced them out because africans could not do anything on their own. +--- 14900380 +>>14899923 (OP) +why are white people still living in that shithole? are you all waiting to get killed or something? +--- 14900381 +>>14900371 +>africans could not do anything on their own. +South Africa was on the edge of civil war lmso. +--- 14900389 +>>14900346 +Orania was founded on seized land and gets by by making poor whites do the shitty labour for shit pay under vague promises. +--- 14900390 +>>14900380 +Most whites in SA have guns and are willing to use them in self defense +--- 14900399 +>>14900390 +Yeah, and some blacks there have somewhat-bladed objects and are willing to use them offensively. +--- 14900404 +>>14900390 +>a few geriatric farmers with old hunting rifles against the might of the government with the monopoly of force +lmao good luck with that when the Malema guy gets elected +--- 14900407 +The vast majority of South Africa's economy today is centred around Johannesburg and the Vaal Triangle, not the Cape. Ditto for the white population. So no it wouldn't have been ideal and there's a reason it didn't happen. + +Maybe if you go back in a time machine and convince the Voortrekkers to go home this would/could have happened. +--- 14900432 +>>14900389 +>Orania was founded on seized land +No. It was founded on desolate land that was already privately owned. +>by making poor whites do the shitty labour for shit pay under vague promises. +More like normal Whites, really they're Afrikaners - not "whites", who came there of their own free will to find sanctuary from the rest of the shitty country. They have a better quality of life there than they would elsewhere. +>>14900380 +Those that have left or wanted to have done so. The rest stay because they have no choice or feel convicted about giving up the land their ancestors fought for. It's called being a man. No point in running anyway since it'll soon be the same or similar in most places. +--- 14900444 +>>14900404 +The government there can't even keep the lights on or stop people from looting. No need to be afraid of them. +--- 14900452 +>>14900432 +>Those that have left or wanted to have done so +Those that had the ability to have already left I mean. The rest either can't or don't want to. +--- 14900464 +>>14900380 +90% of the murder in South Africa is black-on-black and happening in places you'd never be as a white person. Sure, whites can be victims of crime, but the whole reason stories about a heckin innocent whitegirlerino getting her body or head BLACKED ends up a big News24 headline is because it's actually not the norm. + +The vast, vast majority of murders in South Africa have always been retarded township brutality bullshit and it barely gets reported because it's not news to anyone. + +Seriously if you aren't a poorfag and live somewhere remotely middle class your lifetime chance of shit happening to you is pretty small. And even then when it does it's mostly because they did something predictable that put them at risk (being the Boer farmer meme, living in one of those shitty old neighbourhoods that's half-Coloured, being a libtard/foreigner who does dumb shit like "hanging out" in a township because you have black friends/are dating a black, etc.). +--- 14900487 +>>14900432 +>It was founded on desolate land that was already privately owned. +Nope. Coloureds and blacks were living on it after the government abandoned an infrastructure project. It was carried out by the future residents of Orania, with the assistance of beatings, pistol whippings and dogs. +--- 14900489 +>>14900487 +So basically the founders of Orania engaged in mass scale eviction of 500 people. +--- 14900497 +>>14900432 +A lot of the Afrikaners working in Oeania are poor lol. The reason they moved was for employment even under sketchy conditions or no guarantees +--- 14900513 +>>14900487 +Wouldn't care even if true, but source? +>>14900497 +Cope. They're there because it's safer and they can be with their own people. +--- 14900526 +Orania has a population of 3,000 people. It's a curiosity, but not really that important in the grand scheme of things. + +I suppose people pay attention to it, because it's seen as a test of Section 235. +--- 14900683 +The 1980s status quo was actually more realistic and stable than either the volkstaat meme or what they have now. + +Botha should have just told the ANC to fuck off and gradually moderated the government's policies without ever conceding to majority rule. The libs in the West and the Third World and China would have hated it, but what's new? + +Instead the NP let themselves get barrelled over, and were consigned to the dustbin of history as a result. +--- 14900685 +>>14900489 +>>14900497 +>>14900513 +>>14900526 +so are White people allowed to have anything or should they just default to genociding the powerless low IQ tribals trying to genocide them? +--- 14900718 +The problems white people face are global. We live in a western, interconnected world, we share a cultural consciousness. Even if that would have worked by now it would have long been subverted, accepted mass immigration and citizenship to non-whites. Nothing would have worked to prevent that. And nothing is going to change fundamentally, until the Neoliberal Western World reforms or makes room for something else. But reform is in the hand of the Elite and they don‘t seem to care about reforming the West to accept racial reality. +--- 14900723 +>>14900685 +>low IQ tribals trying to genocide them + +Source? Sandile forgetting your side order of wings or cheezybread last time you ordered Debonairs is actually not actually the precursor to a plot to push the white man into the sea, really. He just has a long commute to work and was a bit tired. I'm sure he will remember next time. +--- 14900749 +>>14900723 +what? +I am just asking if other races are openly declaring war or if they will resort to the passive aggressive feminine crybully tactics. +I mean its fine if you want to act like african matriarchists, but dont pretend to be the warrior race while you hide behind women and "historical """"""injustice"""""""" +Step up and go to war properly, maybe you wont job and go down at a rate of 100:1 THIS time. +--- 14900790 +>>14900749 +Who says anyone is "going to war"? This is all in your head. +--- 14900820 +>>14900389 +>poor whites +Providing jobs for whites is the entire point idiot. The country has affirmative action for the majority of the population so it is difficult for poor whites to find employment. +>seized land +If it makes you fucking happy they could in fac restart from the beginning and set up once more in land that you do not consider to be "seized" unless of course you consider all the land to be seized (this is probably the case for your world view). They have done so several times. It is called the Great Trek +--- 14900841 +>>14900790 +so you are fine with White people having power in countries they historically had power in? +--- 14900856 +>>14900407 +>Maybe if you go back in a time machine and convince the Voortrekkers to go home this would/could have happened. +If the Voortrekers had gone somewhere else then the cities would have be built somewhere else and everyone would have the exact same set of problems, just somewhere else. It isn't like the Voortrekers just headed out and stubbled upon a pre-existing city called Johannesburg. + +The point is more than the since the Voortrekers had gone out and set up a new country multiple times in the past that they could continue to do so in the under populated territory. As in setting out and founding new cities is sort of a cultural practice for them so even if there was no reason to do it there might still be a yearning to do it just because. The reasons are ultimately just secondary reasons intended to convince people among them you might be more reluctant. +--- 14900858 +>>14900380 +87% of whites in South Africa get murdered by other whites, dumbfuck + +That’s massively skewed for our small population size +--- 14900873 +>>14900487 +Hey fuckhead. Would you allow them to head out a found a completely new settlement that you personally have surveyed to make sure nobody is currently living on it, or are you just complaining because you are opposed to the concept of them having any settlement to themselves at all? +--- 14900878 +>>14900856 +No what I meant is that if Trekkers didn't happen and the whites stayed concentrated around the Cape like in the 17th and early 18th centuries, true white separatism would be a great deal easier and more feasible. But they didn't, so it's not. +--- 14900910 +>>14900878 +What percentage of people participated in the great trek? I highly doubt they staying in the cape would have seriously impacted the total population of the colony considering that the British were migrating in anyway. Anyone who left was likely replaced by a British settler quite rapidly. +--- 14900913 +>>14900513 +Just go to the wikipedia page on Orania and skim through it to realize he's an idiot. +The property was sold by the state and the squatters who were still living there were relocated and given new houses in another location. +--- 14900920 +>>14900910 +Well yeah, the Boers didn't like their Anglo overlords which is why they left, after all. And I suppose you have a point in that if the Brits who settled in places like Durban and Johnnesburg had all landed and stayed in Cape Town instead, the whole province would have ended up completely dominated by them and the Afrikaner/Afrikaans culture there would have been much diminished. +--- 14900943 +>>14900910 +>What percentage of people participated in the great trek? + +Apparently, they were around a fifth of Cape Colony's total population. +--- 14901524 +>>14900367 +>they wanted to be the ruling class and have black servants and such +Multiple Afrikaner leaders were literally murdered by their servants/assistants. How many still haven't weaned themselves off of black labor is insane. +--- 14901535 +>>14901524 +Many wine vinyards still have archaic conditions where they make workers relieve themselves in the fields and have workers live in shoddy sheds. Fucked part is that FairTrade certification doesn't do shit because the owners just put up temporary toilets and measures just to pass the certs and get the FT sticker. + +It's like being able to just take slight hit on your margins just to add functioning toliets is too much fora lot of these guys. +--- 14901537 +>>14900790 +literally all of your posts are you trying to delegitimize orania, presumably as a justification to break it up. +--- 14901539 +>>14900913 +>the squatters who were still living there were relocated and given new houses in another location +They were forced off their land through violence nor did they have a choice. On top of that the government didn't even ask the squatters" about it and many Oranians are still aggressive even otuside of Orania's borders. +--- 14901543 +>>14900841 +No I want to stop all white males from having any power or any children +--- 14901546 +>>14900858 +source? +--- 14901548 +>>14900873 +>are you just complaining because you are opposed to the concept of them having any settlement to themselves at all? +Stop being so hysterical. They seized land from people while benefiting from a state that completely favoured Afrikaners. +--- 14901554 +They're not white they're dutch. The Netherlands is always open for immigration applications btw. They can always go back. +--- 14901560 +>>14901546 +Not that guy, but it really is the case that on the whole, intra-racial crime is quite rare in South Africa. Sure the odd white person does fall victim to a carjacking or home invasion, but because the vast majority follow Ben Garrison's timeless advice regarding when and when not to relax and also never visit townships, coloured slums and other places where stabbings and shootings tend to happen, they tend not to be the victims of crime at the hands of blacks and coloureds. +--- 14901563 +>>14901554 +Not sunny enough for them, I suspect. +--- 14901567 +>>14901548 +You didn't answer the question. Would you support a new settlement that was created from the ground up from land the post-apartheid government grants them permission to relocate to? +--- 14901575 +>>14900464 +>being a libtard/foreigner who does dumb shit like "hanging out" in a township because you have black friends/are dating a black + +Some of the stories you read about are unbelievable. I remember on IOL I read about this guy, think he was from the UK who ended up dead because he thought walking around in Soweto at like 2 o' clock in the morning was a good idea. Other classic foreigner Darwin Award moments include getting off the Gautrain at Marlboro Station and having a wander around in Alex because why not, right? +--- 14901584 +>>14901554 +Afrikaners and Dutch people are surprisingly indifferent towards one another for the most part Anon. +--- 14901596 +>>14901584 +Well they are like Americans and British people, or Quebec Canadians and French People. Basically different groups at this point. +--- 14901602 +>>14901567 +Does it matter if he would or not? +--- 14901615 +>>14901596 +nta but here in the US, rich white liberals FUCKING HATE conservative whites from the South. I've literally seen bumperstickers in Colorado, driven by cute blonde women who go to college so you know they're smart, reading "NUKE THE SOUTH". +LOL how edgy. Nah... she means it. +Now do Amsterdam and imagine how those rich white women there feel about apartheid. + +Boers are on their own. They have no friends in Holland. Maybe in the Flemish parts of Belgium . . . +--- 14901618 +>>14901563 +Yeah the weather is indeed shit but europe is first world. +--- 14901622 +>>14901615 +Conservative parties have been getting billions of votes in Holland. Plus they gave out free visas to the Ukrainians. +They'd also give them to the Boers for sure. Europe became extremely white friendly after 2015 +--- 14901639 +>>14900404 +Niggers are too incompetent to organize an effective state. Half of the niggers in the military are obese or have aids. +--- 14901645 +>>14900404 +Won't happen. Steenhuisen unironically has a better shot at the presidency than Malema, although the most likely outcome is either an ANC-DA coalition or an ANC-EFF coalition where the ANC stays the most powerful party and keeps the presidency as well. +--- 14901653 +>>14901645 +Does he speak dutch +--- 14901658 +>>14901645 +>an ANC-EFF coalition +zimbabwe tier SA coming up +--- 14901663 +>>14901658 +Thing is, a lot of people expected the ANC themselves to be pretty radical when they came to power in 1994, but that didn't happen. The EFF will likely prove to be the same, all bark and no bite, especially since they will be the junior partner in any conceivable coalition. +--- 14901664 +>>14901663 +Mandela at least had enough tact not to sing kill de boer. +I see it being typical ANC shitfuckery only with a token extremely unpopular policy they blame on the EFF, killing them as an electable force. +--- 14901665 +>>14901560 +thats not a source +--- 14901669 +>>14901560 +It's called inter-racial. Intra-racial means within the race. Inter-racial means between the races. +--- 14901671 +>>14901663 +This is sort of a cope though, the ANC being corrupt and incompetent has been enough to fuck things up a great deal, even when they are or think they are trying to not kill the proverbial golden goose. +--- 14901680 +>>14901622 +>Europe became extremely white friendly after 2015 +lmao +--- 14901692 +DAAR'S 'N LAND AAN SUIDERKANT, KOM DEEL IN SY VERHALE +UIT DIE OOSTE, WESTE, NOORDE, SUIDE, TOEGEBRING + +DIS 'N LAND MET WILDE HAND WAT UITREIK TELKEMALE +OM DIE HOOP VAN MORE TE BESING +DIS 'N LAND VAN KLEURE EN KLANK +DIS 'N LAND VAN OORVLOED EN DANK +DIS 'N LAND WAAR ALMAL NA STREWE +--- 14901750 +>>14901567 +Why does it matter? The core part is that those founders in Orania purchased their land through the use of their ties to the Apartheid state and engaged in some of the largest forced land evictions in South Africa. +--- 14901757 +>>14901750 +>largest forced eviction +if that was the largest eviction then apartheid wasn't nearly as oppressive as people say it was +--- 14901760 +i like this song +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHs3vD_Sn8M [Embed] +--- 14901764 +>>14901757 +Lol you can't even read three words. get the fuck out +--- 14901768 +>>14901764 +Do you know how often people got evicted for squatting in South Africa? Trying to stop people from squatting was the entire point behind apartheid but the eventually gave up because it was too much effort to constantly evict people. +--- 14901769 +>>14901768 +Blatant revisionism. +--- 14901776 +>>14901769 +You are literally the one arguing that Apartheid was less oppressive than it actually was. +--- 14901795 +>>14901776 +>You are literally the one arguing that Apartheid was less oppressive +How do you even get that from my post? apartheid engaged in mass land evictions allover SA in rural and urban areas on top of the creation of the Bantustans +--- 14901848 +>>14901795 +Hence>>14901757 +You say this tiny removal of squatters was "the largest forced land eviction in South Africa" +--- 14901854 +>>14899923 (OP) +Take this shit to /pol/ you fucking faggot +--- 14901875 +>>14900685 +Access to Black people is not a human right. +--- 14901880 +>>14901848 +>engaged in some of the +Key word some of the you retarded faggot. +--- 14901922 +>>14901880 +This was not remotely some of the largest evictions +--- 14901944 +>>14901875 +Access to black queens should be. I'm deprived. +--- 14901954 +>>14901922 +500 people is pretty big. +--- 14902529 +>>14899923 (OP) +Maybe +--- 14902604 +>>14901854 +Fuck off to reddit and give us the board back +--- 14902908 +>>14900346 +>Pretty sure Orania is right next to a river and they do way better than 90% of that shithole. +Orania is close to a big city and depend on the black town council to deliver basic services. The people in Orania also have day jobs in the city. +--- 14902924 +>>14901875 +Black ''people'' =/= African resources +They are too stupid to put in use or defend what they have and therefore don't deserve to have it just because its muh land mufugga +--- 14902927 +>>14901584 +>Afrikaners and Dutch people are surprisingly indifferent towards one another for the most part Anon. +Because the Afrikaaners were Dutch who were deemed too retarded to live in the Netherlands and were given a one way ticket to the southern most part of Africa. +--- 14902949 +>>14899923 (OP) +>Now the blacks are enjoying a wealthy, western style life in the society that whites build, while the whites live in slums and are poor af +Nobody is stopping them from taking a boat trip to Europe like these guys. Maybe they just want to live in slums and have nothing to offer to white society in Europe. +--- 14903018 +>>14902908 +You are thinking of Kleinfontein. +--- 14903041 +>>14902949 +Imagine thinking any of the niggers that come here have anything to offer + +The truth is, that they don't want to give up the land their ancestors build. They aren't little pussies that run away +--- 14903065 +>>14903041 +>Imagine thinking any of the niggers that come here have anything to offer +Never said they did. + +>The truth is, that they don't want to give up the land their ancestors build. They aren't little pussies that run away +Then enjoy being white and living in a slum in Africa. +--- 14903272 +>>14901664 +>Mandela at least had enough tact not to sing kill de boer. + +You think the white vote is important or something? +--- 14903730 +>>14899923 (OP) +Yes, the English should have left the Boers alone. diff --git a/his/14900554.txt b/his/14900554.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2822113f78c538b553bc504247a82e1780f153fb --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14900554.txt @@ -0,0 +1,286 @@ +----- +--- 14900554 +You live on stolen ground +--- 14900562 +>>14900554 (OP) +So does literally everyone else. +--- 14900570 +>>14900554 (OP) +Since when did conquest become synonymous with stealing? +--- 14900573 +>>14900554 (OP) +I hate this mormon faggot so much. +--- 14900577 +>>14900554 (OP) +And why are you telling us this? +--- 14900581 +>>14900554 (OP) +--- 14900587 +>>14900554 (OP) +Finessed* +>>14900562 +This. +>>14900573 +Ex-Mormons always go way too hard in the other direction instead of just being normal. +--- 14900589 +>>14900577 +to justify more special privileges and entitlements for minorities +--- 14900591 +>>14900562 +Zionist talking point. Not particularly true. +--- 14900599 +>>14900554 (OP) +So do Poles +--- 14900611 +>>14900591 +Exhibit #6000000 that anti-Zionism is just part of the broader brownoid third world resentment movement. +--- 14900617 +>>14900611 +>Kike calls somebody brown +Lel +--- 14900618 +>>14900554 (OP) +I don't really care desu +--- 14900629 +>>14900617 +>you must be a jew if you don't agree with my brownoid sympathizer movement +Ashkenazi Jews aren't particularly brown either, but keep seething chud. +--- 14900641 +>>14900629 +>WOZAHHHH A E-GIRL IN FATIGUES I MUST SUPPORT ISRAEL!!! +Do gentiles really? +--- 14900675 +>>14900581 +i hate that faggots cartoons so fucking much, he has the most asinine poltard opinions imaginable and expressed them in 15 year old girl instagram infographic tier cartoons +--- 14900679 +>>14900629 +>>14900675 +Listen, we just dont want a foreign race running our country, simple as, no one else is vilified for having this desire. +we arent anti-semitic +we are anti colonialism. +--- 14900681 +>>14900679 +Okay, you're an antisemite. +--- 14900688 +>>14900675 +Stonetoss never misses. +--- 14900689 +>>14900641 +>WOZAHHHH A SANDNIGGER WHO HATES JEWS I MUST SUPPORT PALESTINE +I'm indifferent personally. I don't see a reason to dislike Israelis and neither should you, but I know it's futile to even argue it since your type is like a dog with a bone. +--- 14900697 +>>14900675 +you hate it because it's true +--- 14900699 +>>14900689 +>wanting to withdraw involvement means that you're going out of your way to help arabs +Nice pilpul. +--- 14900702 +Literally every single country and people on earth exist due to killing the previous inhabitants and “colonising” it + +Bizarre how this isn’t cared about outside of white colonists. When was the last time people had a go at the turks +--- 14900704 +>>14900629 +--- 14900705 +>>14900702 +The usual argument is that near-total population replacement (i.e. what happened in the USA) isn't especially common, though it's not unheard of either. Turks are largely Turkified West Asians. +--- 14900707 +>>14900699 +Why would you care about that? It's not like it affects anything. We should be blowing up Mexico instead, but we could easily do both at the same time so it's not an either or. With Afghanistan over and done with our involvement in the middle east is minimal anyway in comparison with say, Ukraine. +--- 14900715 +>>14900704 +Cope. I wish they paid me. +--- 14900716 +>>14900554 (OP) +All you got to do is click on the three dots and tell youtube "don't show me dumb shit like this anymore" +Then, once you're done with that, click on that little blue triangle to hide the thread. +--- 14900719 +>>14900704 +The US army is using the same exact tactic now. +>https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/57878/1/the-era-of-military-funded-e-girl-warfare-army-influencers-tiktok +--- 14900721 +>>14900705 +I’d argue that 99% of natives dying from disease isn’t some intentional war considering most died before ever seeing a white man. And that there was no realistic alternative to save them from having weak immune systems +--- 14900722 +>>14900707 +>Why would you care about that? +I want all kikes exterminated to the last embryo, so Israel concerns me +--- 14900732 +>>14900629 +--- 14900734 +>>14900707 +>"we" should be starting more wars +No thanks. +--- 14900738 +>>14900722 +Because you're a schizo poisoned by the internet. Many such cases. The majority of white people don't give a fuck and actively support their own replacement so it's silly to care about some lone libtard Jew saying it. If most white people wanted it to end then the Jews (irrelevant minority) would be powerless to stop them. +--- 14900741 +>>14900734 +What's wrong with wars? +--- 14900743 +>>14900738 +This wouldn't fly 100 years ago. What changed? +--- 14900752 +>>14900741 +>What's wrong with wars? +--- 14900759 +>>14900743 +Yes it would, and yes it did. It's been happening for a while. Most of the people in this photo are white. White people allowed it to happen and plenty of them wanted it to happen as well. +--- 14900760 +>>14900738 +>I know im stealing your food goy, but just, grow more, if you were really that hungry youd just grow more food +We are not going to be gaslit into continuing this parasite relationship. +jews get out, please +--- 14900761 +>>14900738 +>it's silly to care about some lone libtard Jew saying it. +Lone? +--- 14900767 +>>14900759 +https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Celler +Every time +--- 14900768 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_California_Proposition_187 +Every time +--- 14900770 +>>14900715 +Imagine thinking instagram prostitutes will save you from the ovens bud. I'd seek Christ if I were you +--- 14900771 +>>14900760 +Meds. Now. +>>14900761 +Now show the millions upon millions of white people who support and say the same thing. You remember 2020 right? +--- 14900774 +>>14900554 (OP) +I dont like that glowie. Hes too young to be knowledgeable so he seems arrogant +--- 14900775 +>>14900767 +And yet you missed the entire point which was LBJ signing it into law and all these other white people cheering it on. +>>14900770 +larp +--- 14900777 +>>14900570 +>ince when did conquest become synonymous with stealing? +It has always been but cognitive dissonance does a number +--- 14900783 +>>14900775 +You better hope God takes mercy on you because Man won't. America in 20 years will be Hell for jews that don't have a gated community to hide behind +--- 14900785 +>>14900768 +>majority of white californians vote to cut illegals off from receiving welfare checks +>jewish judge strikes it down +>years later jews pretend that white people wanted their neighborhoods to be flooded with immigrants +--- 14900792 +>>14900783 +jews are like 1% of the population with high intermarriage rates, and if anything the reason they'd be attacked is because they'd be perceived as white - not because they're jews +--- 14900797 +>>14900785 +>>majority of white californians vote to cut illegals off from receiving welfare checks +yeah in 1994 - almost 30 fucking years ago maybe, not now +--- 14900811 +>>14900797 +>Yes it would, and yes it did. +30 years ago wasn't 100 years ago. Your lies don't demoralize me. +--- 14900819 +>>14900811 +I could be wrong, maybe you touch grass all the time, but if you actually talk to most white people it would be very apparent they don't share your views. I'm stating the obvious here. If they did, things wouldn't be this way. "Silent majority" is a cope. +--- 14900824 +>>14900792 +You just couldn't help yourselves could you? You really believed the mutts you invited to replace us and the niggers you intentionally rile up would take kindly to your god's chosen attitude. Not saying niggers need a reason to riot but Ole Kikey loves to exacerbate. There's been a sharp rise in coverage of race-related "issues" since Occupy Wall Street that could be no coincidence. Corporations subverted the left. Sent them on a wild goose chase to end white supremacy. Turns out "white supremacy" is simply a bottomless pit of "issues" to distract from jewish power. And if the jews are in power, they are responsible for the degradation and corruption plaguing America +>Hey Shvartza I'm not white I'm jew-ACK! +This is the future you chose. +To the last jewish embryo. +--- 14900828 +>>14900824 +It's ok, I won't even argue with you or show you my DNA. I'll be your villain. Yes I am a jew and I am replacing you cracka. +--- 14900832 +>>14900562 +Racist +--- 14900836 +>>14900771 +>Now show the millions upon millions of white people who support and say the same thing. +I'd rather take note of enemy combatants subverting my country while looting it for Israel +--- 14900862 +>>14900759 +This was not 100 years ago. The US has a history of racism and race riots +--- 14901803 +>>14900715 +>be transparent about using prositutes to manipulate Americans to your cause +>anyone who pays attention to a self-admitted psyop is mentally ill +--- 14901810 +>>14900554 (OP) +>You live on stolen ground +Define stolen in the context of settling unused land that was ignored by scattered nomadic tribes that had no concept of property rights. +--- 14902494 +>>14900554 (OP) +The natives are content with development in the us now +--- 14902504 +>>14900675 +This. I hope Stonetoss get raped by a fat black trans +--- 14902535 +>>14900554 (OP) +Part of my ancestry originated from America. +--- 14902790 +>>14900702 +It's like when a dagger finds its way between the armor, it's a way to attack a soft spot for the west. Most other people either don't care, or are actively proud of it. +--- 14902816 +>>14900554 (OP) +>You stole our land +>But nobody can "own" land, the land is for everyone +>But it's our land and you stole it +Wish I could sneeze on a redskin rn +--- 14902828 +>>14900554 (OP) +Stolen from WHO? +The Chumash? Algonquin? Pueblo? Cherokee? Mohawk? +North America was never a fully unified political entity before European contact. Each Native American tribe had its own language, culture, agenda, and were often at war with eachother. + +This narrarative is ironically even more racist, because it assets this idea that all Native Americans are "The Same" and all had the same exact goals and struggles. Its bullshit, and even your average druggie reservation dweller will tell you its bullshit. +--- 14902847 +>>14900554 (OP) +daily reminder this cuck is a liar and manipulator of retards +https://ugetube.com/watch/why-haiti-is-poor-and-why-the-left-lie-about-it_D6YjeBFKXJqBuDp.html +--- 14902852 +>>14900719 +I love lujan so much bros +--- 14902856 +>>14902847 +>https://ugetube.com +I regret clicking that link and finding myself on some ad infested shithole. Chuds will never make a proper alternative to Youtube +--- 14903029 +>>14902856 +>I dont know what an ad blocker plug in is +someone who uses the word "chud" has a double digit IQ. Imagine my shock. I have never seen a single ad on that website. I regret reading this post as it cost me 5 IQ points to do so +--- 14903040 +Shouldn't have traded your land away for beads and rocks then +--- 14903088 +>>14900732 +wow no wonder why they will be extinct within a few generations. Aren't askenazi jews just descendants of Ukrainian khazars who converted to judaism with no real connection to Jacob or the islaelites? +--- 14903114 +>>14903088 +kek why is it always 6 million with them? +--- 14903119 +>>14903114 +https://esotericawakening.com/the-occult-significance-of-the-number-6 +--- 14903772 +>>14900554 (OP) +Good + +>>14900570 +Slave morality +--- 14903780 +>>14900770 +Women are a bane on society +--- 14903785 +>>14900862 +>US has a history of racism +Citation needed +--- 14903793 +>>14902816 +I swear logic is foreign to anyone who isn’t a minority or woman +--- 14904150 +>>14903793 +Shalom +--- 14904466 +>>14900554 (OP) +Technically most of the land here was bought, not stolen. diff --git a/his/14900632.txt b/his/14900632.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fc0285f3920fd7163033bae731632209ed7c1868 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14900632.txt @@ -0,0 +1,354 @@ +----- +--- 14900632 +>during the German advance on Dunkirk in WW2 they dropped tons of these leaflets imploring British and French soldiers to surrender +>it worked and most did + +Why didn’t the Germans do their first “bombing raid” over britain by dropping millions of leaflets imploring British citizens to tell their MPs to negotiate a peace instead of fighting a pointless war? +--- 14900682 +British were ready to surrender anyway, the problem was that Hitler was an Anglophile, while British hated Germans. Seelöwe plan never existed, Hitler cucked germs out of victory with Dunkirk. Civilian population doesn't care for anything as long as there is bread. +--- 14900687 +>>14900634 +>fake map on the right +--- 14900698 +>>14900687 +>fake + +Huh? It’s the real one. They were telling the French and British to surrender. Wouldn’t be wise to only print it in English + +Left is from the Dunkirk movie I think +--- 14900700 +>>14900682 +>the problem was that Hitler was an Anglophile +If only fuhrer listen… +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-German_Naval_Agreement +--- 14900712 +>>14900634 +It's interesting how the messages addressed to the French and to the British differ. + +Comrades! +This is how things are! +In any case, the war is over for you! +Your chiefs will flee by plane! (?) +Put down your arms! +--- 14900714 +>>14900682 +Degrelle talks about it at around 30 minutes into the interview, German parachuters and pilots that somehow survived being shot down over Britain in 1940 were finding empty airstrips with not a single military post nearby, every single soldier they had was in Dunkirk at the time. It shows the retardation of German high staff command to not take the advantage instead they let them all go. +>>14900700 +>actually obeys the treaty throughout the war +>neglects the kriegsmarine to sway the anglo +>loses +--- 14900720 +>>14900714 +>throughout the war +>1935 +--- 14900729 +>>14900712 +I mean, they were right weren’t they? + +British could just retreat home + +French leadership had time to flee and set up a government in exile in Britain. Hence De Gaulle +--- 14900731 +>>14900720 +He did obey it, Bismarck was shit. I really recommend watching Degrelle interview. It can show you Hitler in a new light - an Anglophile, retarded and gullible. +--- 14900742 +10 posts in and no one gave OP any Yous +based +--- 14901134 +>>14900714 +Which interview +--- 14901500 +>>14900682 +>British were ready to surrender anyway +I dont think surrender means what you think it means. The British were never ready to surrender. + +>the problem was that Hitler was an Anglophile, while British hated Germans. +The problems was that Hitler and his cult followers believe Britain should or must have care about some flattering words that were benefitial to Hitlers own ambitions. + +>Seelöwe plan never existed, +Because the very idea of invading Britain was an absurd comical fantasy. + +>Hitler cucked germs out of victory with Dunkirk. +By failing to prevent the allies from escaping? + +>Civilian population doesn't care for anything as long as there is bread. +Is that why public support increased during the blockade of food and city bombings? +--- 14901666 +>>14900632 (OP) +The Germans did drop leaflets over Britain. It didn't have a noticeable effect. +--- 14901675 +>>14901500 +>By failing to prevent the allies from escaping? +Manstein was in favor of attacking but Rommel, Hitler, and the majority of other commentors all agreed it would have not been worth while. As OP stated, many surrendered and the attempt to move through the lower land marshes would have delayed movements elsewhere. +--- 14902030 +>>14900714 +Degrelle is a moron and even if the Germans had magically figured this out and successfully pulled off a huge airborne invasion with no prior training, it'd still have failed without an open naval supply line - which the Germans could have never created, let alone maintained + +a few thousand parachutists would have shocked Britain and made a few minor gains before running out of supplies and surrendering to the mobilized home guard +--- 14902050 +>>14900632 (OP) +and do you have anything to back up the claim most did +--- 14902231 +>>14901666 +Post them. +--- 14902239 +>>14902231 + +Are you stupid? Of course they dropped leaflets. Everyone dropped leaflets. In the USSR you would be executed for merely picking one up +--- 14902261 +>>14901675 + +I'm quite certain that the anon I was quoting was going to sperg out how Hitler "allowed" the British to escape because he is Hitler and he only wanted peace and stability and he is perfect and he wanted to show his big heart for the British people. +--- 14902299 +>>14902239 +Ok, but just post them. I believe you, I just wanna see them. +--- 14902316 +>>14900634 +Why are the French called warmly comrades while the Brits were just coldly called "soldiers"? +--- 14902326 +>>14900632 (OP) +>it worked and most did + +The French only surrendered after the British had successfully ran away +They held for a whole week to protect the escape, and during that week they lost 16,000 dead (as a comparison, America lost 50,000 dead in 20 years in Vietnam) +--- 14902331 +>>14900682 +In the Battle of France, Germans captured 1.7 million troops and caused 300k casualties, only 300k escaped at Dunkirk. + +The Western Allies never fielded such numbers again. Seelöwe probably would've worked and should've been done even at the cost of losses. +--- 14902332 +>>14902299 + +In 1940 the leaflets dropped were basically a wall of text about how Britain and Germany shouldnt fight. +Most British looked at it and went tldr. + +This isnt suprising, anyone who has read Mein Kampf knows how shit Hitler was at formulating himself. I've tried twice and still havent finished the book. + + +The ones dropped at 1944 were more desperate and on point, telling the British that they're fighting and dying for the victory of marxism and the end of western civilization by the hands of Stalin. + +https://www.keymilitary.com/article/collecting-german-air-dropped-leaflets-britain +--- 14902338 +>>14902332 +>Most British looked at it and went tldr. +This is sad. Europe in 1900 was an intellectual powerhouse, it was already over in 1918 when all the good genes were wiped out. +--- 14902373 +>>14902331 + +>only 300k escaped at Dunkirk. +And an additional 200k in other french cities. + +These men were also the best trained, most experienced and well equipt of the British forces. + +>The Western Allies never fielded such numbers again. +The British 21st Army in France 1944 was over a million men strong. + +>Seelöwe probably would've worked and should've been done +How was it going to work? Should the German soldiers swim? Are they going to be supplied by pidgeons? +--- 14902397 +>>14902338 + +Is reading a poorly written propaganda a testimony of good genes? +--- 14902503 +>>14902373 +>The British 21st Army in France 1944 was over a million men strong. +One million is less than two. + +>>14902373 +>How was it going to work? Should the German soldiers swim? Are they going to be supplied by pidgeons? +Germany had air superiority in the initial stages, the Fallschirmjägers could capture British airports and docks and allow fast moving armour to be unloaded and Blitz across England. This would allow for very quick unloading of troops and supplies until the operational range of British aircraft was pushed so far North that they could only offer support as far as London at best. Even losing >75% of transport ships, Germany would still win and capture all the supplies in Empire's supplies in London. + +>Source: I did it in HoI3. +--- 14902509 +>>14902397 +Mein Kampf was not poorly written, did you forget that you were reading a translation? +--- 14902511 +at least you made it obvious you are trolling now +--- 14902544 +>>14902511 +I'm pointing out he fact that your arm chair generaling is just as pointless as any. Unironically even HoI is a better argument it's at least based on a simulation model and not pure make belief of an untouchable Britain which was conquered by a handful of normans tranported with wooden boats. + +In modern warfare the Brits lost 4x the men in the Battle of Crete despite outnumbering the Axis. Of course island invasions can be done, I don't know where this myth comes from. +--- 14902592 +>>14902503 + +>Germany had air superiority in the initial stages, +Except the Germans never had air superiority over the British channel and lost the Battle for Britain because the British out-produced them, were technologically superior, were tactically superior, could train more pilots and retain more experienced pilots, and scored more victories than the germans.' + +>the Fallschirmjägers could capture British airports and docks +How are you going to fly over dozens of thousands of men without air superiority. How are you going to supply them without air superiority? +A division can only hold out for about week before running out of ammunition. How are they going to stand up against the million man strong British home army? + +>capture British airports and docks and allow fast moving armour to be unloaded and Blitz across England. +How are these armour getting across the channel? How do you maintain a supply line across the channel? + +>Even losing >75% of transport ships, Germany would still win +What transport ships? +--- 14902653 +>>14902332 +>telling the British that they're fighting and dying for the victory of marxism and the end of western civilization +Where's the lie? It turned out to be true. The British soldiers would have been absolutely horrified if they could have seen the UK we know today. +--- 14902694 +>>14902653 + +Probably +But you're comparing nearly 80 years apart. +People fighting the Napoleon war would likely react the same to ww1 or the colonization of Africa. + +Most of the cultural marxism I assume you're refering to happened in the last 15 years. Some western nations had racial segregation up until the 90s +--- 14902708 +>>14902592 +Then how come they bombed 13 airstrips and numerous aircraft factories in and around London virtually unopposed? The only initial successes the RAF had was in destroying the Norwegian based fleet attacking Northern England. + +Basically Görings retarded decision to pull back Junkers is what turned the tide as well as a general lack of pilots. + +British historians agree with me: +>In The Narrow Margin, published in 1961, historians Derek Wood and Derek Dempster believed that the two weeks from 24 August to 6 September represented a real danger. According to them, from 24 August to 6 September 295 fighters had been totally destroyed and 171 badly damaged, against a total output of 269 new and repaired Spitfires and Hurricanes. They assert that 103 pilots were killed or missing and 128 were wounded, which represented a total wastage of 120 pilots per week out of a fighting strength of just fewer than 1,000. They conclude that during August no more than 260 fighter pilots were turned out by OTUs and casualties in the same month were just over 300. A full squadron establishment was 26 pilots whereas the average in August was 16. In their assessment, the RAF was losing the battle.[228] Denis Richards, in his 1953 contribution to the official British account History of the Second World War, agreed that lack of pilots, especially experienced ones, was the RAF's greatest problem. He states that between 8 and 18 August 154 RAF pilots were killed, severely wounded, or missing, while only 63 new pilots were trained. Availability of aircraft was also a serious issue. While its reserves during the Battle of Britain never declined to a half dozen planes as some later claimed, Richards describes 24 August to 6 September as the critical period because during these two weeks Germany destroyed far more aircraft through its attacks on 11 Group's southeast bases than Britain was producing. Three more weeks of such a pace would indeed have exhausted aircraft reserves +--- 14902720 +>>14902653 +>be british soldier in the second world war +>get surrounded in Dunkirk +>Germans try to get you to surrender to safe your own life +>refuse to do so +>lots of your friends die while trying to escape but you survive +>the Germans are trying to tell you that they just want peace so they can fight the soviets +>don't care in that moment +>later get deployed in Normandy +>Germans are telling you how you're dooming western civilization +>Germans are saying how they're the last hope against leftist subversion and degeneracy +>Don't listen then +>win the war +>first years after the war are good +>get lots of benefits for being a veteran +>get lots of respect for having fought +>start working a decent job +>buy a car +>buy a house +>have a family +>suddenly you hear new music playing on the radio +>they're talking about "free love" and making fun of the religious values you hold dear +>crime is going up +>strange people from other countries are showing up in the streets +>your traditional neighborhood is bulldozed and replaced with highways and appartment blocks for the immigrants +>you get fired from your job because its shipped overseas +>retire, think its going to get better +>your grandkids are hating you because you don't support homosexuality +>while buying groceries a dark skinned man approaches you +>he demands your wallet +>when you don't comply he stabs you to death and tells the police you were calling him a nigger so he had to defend himself +>police drop all charges while you are lying on the floor bleeding to death +>you contemplate your life choices +>"maybe we fought the wrong people back then..." +--- 14902726 +>>14902544 +except for the fact they had no way of actually holding those air bases and ports, especially since their supply lines would be severely disrupted since they never had that level of air control, if you want a modern example of unsupported ariel drop in the enemies heartland just look at Russias air drop units at the start of the Ukraine war, and all of that still doesn't change the fact they had no way of taking the channel, trying to unironically use fucking HOI as an argument is retarded since its a vidya were player fun takes precedent even if its no where near realistic, because who would play a map painting game if your ability to paint said map is severely hampered by the fact you will nearly always fail to take an island +--- 14902781 +>>14902720 +Germans didn't just want Brits to surrender, they wanted them to shake off Rothschild control too. +--- 14902786 +>>14902726 +Again though, they won at with fewer troops Crete using precisely that strategy. Destroyed 40 British ships too. +--- 14902836 +>>14902708 + +What is it that you dont understand? The German airforce was taking heavier losses and had fewer replacements than the British. It's really that simple. + +The UK lost roughly 1k aircrafts. Germany lost roughtly 2k +The British were steadily replacing their losses. They produced over twice as many aircrafts as they lost. Germany couldnt replace theirs. + +Germany lost roughly 2500 pilots +Britain lost roughly 500 pilots + +The pilots were the most skilled and most experienced of Germany. The British pilots got better and better while the Germans had to constantly train new recruits. + +Meanwhile german pilots who survived began suffering from combat trauma since chances were high they would be killed or captured. +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanalkrankheit + +Theres also the question of aviation fuel which costed far more to produce and were far more draining for Germany than it did for Britain since Germany relied on synthetic plants. + +Also, the battle couldnt continue any longer, since weather would make it impossible after September. Another reason to abort. + +>Then how come they bombed 13 airstrips and numerous aircraft factories in and around London virtually unopposed? + +At no point were they unopposed. +Bombing the airfields didnt matter at all. The German bombers didnt have enough payload nor the precision to destroy the airfields. Most bombers didnt even locate their targets. The British were also using provisional airfields in the countryside. +In fact, the allied bombers also did not have the accuracy, hence one of the reason why they switched to "dehousing" bombing over Germany instead of precise industrial bombing. + +>Basically Görings retarded decision to pull back Junkers + +If you're refering to the Junker 88s then it made perfect sense since they were useless because they didnt have the capacity to destroy their targets, and they were too slow to engage British fighters. + +>tldr +You stil havent explained how you're going to invade Britain. +--- 14902840 +>>14900632 (OP) +>You +--- 14902862 +>>14902720 +>>socialists are saying how they're the last hope against leftist subversion +--- 14902878 +>>14902720 + +>Nazis dont start a world war +>Nazis dont genocide minorities +>2020 Europe still has a positive view of nationalism and racial awareness. Jews are not given a blank cheque to say and do everything they want. People arent shunned or compared to Hitler because they call out gypsies and african migrants for their behaviour. Europe has a much more enforced border policy. Right wing conservatives are much more populare and everyone agrees on a strong nation state and homogenous society. The left has a much harder time arguing against traditionalism. +--- 14902884 +>>14902836 +Your entire wall of text does not alter anything I said at all. I was already aware of every single thing you posted. +--- 14902889 +>>14902884 + +Good. So we've established the fact that Germany never had, not was able to achieve air superiority. + +Now explain how they're going to move units across the channel. +--- 14902911 +>>14902889 +No. We established the fact that you agree with Göring. I disagree with you both and would sacrifice the Junkers to bomb the aircraft industry and power infrastructure in Southern Britain instead of wasting time in the North. Additionally sacrifice the u-boats to control the channel. + +Of course Germany had a continent's worth of resources to produce more aircraft and pilots. The high command simply didn't want to and instead shifted focus to the Balkans. +--- 14903014 +>>14902911 +>bomb the aircraft industry and power infrastructure in Southern Britain +They tried that. They werent able to destroy the industries, just as the allies were not able to destroy the German industries later in the war despite dropping 1000x times more explosives over German cities. It did not stop german fighter production. + +Attempting to bomb specific targets was when the German airforce sustained its most dramatic losses. The fighter pilots had to fly slower and without initiative to cover the German bombers which gave the British fighters an immediate and fatal tactical edge. Escorting bombers drained more fuel as they had to fly slower. A german fighter many times only had roughly 10 minutes above Britain before being forced to turn back or risk ditching in the sea. If this pilot was still engaged in a fight when forced to turn back, he would virtually become a free kill for the British fighter. + +>Additionally sacrifice the u-boats to control the channel. +How are Uboats going to ferry troops for the invasion? + +>Of course Germany had a continent's worth of resources to produce more aircraft and pilots +You mean the fairly resource meager Europe vs .... the entire British empire and the entire world as its trading partner? +--- 14903032 +>>14902911 + +Here, I made this one just for you +--- 14904168 +>>14904164 +--- 14904408 +>>14902720 +Is there any real life example of this happening? +--- 14904511 +>>14904408 + +/pol/ retards generally assume the world is just going to stop in a Germany victory timeline. +A murderous and enslaving state like that with a very educated middle class and western culture wouldnt last long. +It would have been held together by the old generation of political hardliners. Eventually a younger generation would take over and immediately begin to change all the fundamentally immoral aspects of the state. + +Want a reference? This is exactly what happened to the USSR. In the 80s the USSR had like 4 different leaders in less than a year because they were all old and kept dying. Once the new generation like Yeltsin and Gorbachev came to power it was clear they saw things differently despite their die-hard communist peers and despite heavy indoctrination and acceptance to communism. + +Nevermind the fact that Germany has always been the center of spawning political theorists, often extremely left leaning liberals. + +Several fascist states survived ww2. None survived time. As soon as the people who created the state died, it immediately reformed into its natural culturally-western self. +--- 14904943 +>>14904511 +NSDAP were centrists though, socialists are left of libertarian capitalists, right of extremist communists. +--- 14904956 +>>14902316 +French had a lot more reason to hate the Germans so they needed more convincing probably. + +Britain obviously lost a lot of men to Germany in WW1 but it was never some personal national revenge. Like France being upset over Alsace Lorraine +--- 14904967 +>>14902509 +Meiji Kampf is poorly written but I’d put most of the blame for that on Rudolf Hess + +Hitler was either incapable of writing it himself or too lazy diff --git a/his/14900653.txt b/his/14900653.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f41a8a8f6f20c3e8d697d7f26042f8de33813cfc --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14900653.txt @@ -0,0 +1,52 @@ +----- +--- 14900653 +If it's true we evolved from apes, then I can no longer believe in the Bible. +--- 14900658 +>>14900653 (OP) +Oops, sorry wrong pic +--- 14900664 +>>14900653 (OP) +>>14900658 +Whats the difference? +--- 14900763 +>>14900653 (OP) +Why did they call it evilution if they didn't want us to think that it's satanic? +--- 14900778 +>>14900763 +You just can't read or spell because you're uneducated like all Christians. +--- 14900952 +>>14900786 +>William Lane Craig +>Buy my book goyim for $9.99 to unlock the secrets of God +--- 14900954 +>>14900653 (OP) +>ADAM! EVE! COME OUT FROM BEHIND THOSE TREES +>I KNOW YOU'RE THERE! I CAN SMELL YOUR FEAR! +--- 14900968 +>>14900954 +>GODDAMNIT, EVE!! YOU'VE REALLY DONE IT THIS TIME! +--- 14902298 +>>14900653 (OP) +>>14900658 +i can't tell the difference +--- 14902304 +>>14900954 +kek +--- 14902626 +>>14900653 (OP) +I swear everytime a shitposter reposts this image he edits it a shade darker +--- 14903760 +>>14900653 (OP) +--- 14903770 +>>14900653 (OP) +It is not true +--- 14903904 +>>14903770 +There've actually been some experiments where bird genes were fucked with and the embryos started developing dino traits. It's pretty cool. +--- 14903933 +>>14900653 (OP) +That's not necessarily true, you can believe in both +--- 14904795 +>>14900653 (OP) +>>14902626 +Jajajajajaja diff --git a/his/14900896.txt b/his/14900896.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..23360a2965d2bdf5481aa5bb08e2b7975daa9182 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14900896.txt @@ -0,0 +1,163 @@ +----- +--- 14900896 +Why can Israel collect on reparations for crimes done to jewish-noncitizens from before the state even existed, but not is not liable for damages for crimes committed by jewish non-citizens? +--- 14900961 +Its almost like jews cannot tell you whether or not corporate responsibility exists until you tell them why you are asking. +--- 14901055 +>>14901042 +Jews just don't have any sort of concept of true or false. For them, words are just sounds they make to try and get what they want, they have no external meaning. +--- 14901699 +>>14901096 +To live in Western societies is a privilege the jewish race enjoys but does not deserve. Jews are more sophisticated gypsies and far more dangerous; unlike gypsies jews are a society-destroying threat. A jew will almost never call out the crimes of his criminal clan. A jew can be openly racist against goyim and still be held in high regard. Either jews agree or the rabid racism from this man is simply not a deal-breaker because he served the tribe. When you look at jews in this way it makes perfect sense that they fervently defend Israel. Seeing a jew as your countryman is a mistake; his loyalty is to the tribe and you must always take this into account. +--- 14901724 +>>14900976 +I see no reason to believe anything that comes out of the mouth of a jew +--- 14901958 +>>14901699 +Same could be said for certain whites lmao +--- 14902118 +>>14901958 +Jews aren't white +--- 14902130 +>>14900896 (OP) +>state promotes its own interest, leveraging every advantage or tool it has available, more news at 11 +Countries push for reparations all the fucking time, and the fact that a state claiming to represent the group subject to the most infamous genocide in history would get a lot of gibs without having to pay much out isn't actually remarkable +--- 14902156 +>>14902130 +Buddy you seem to have accidentally ignored the second part of anons question +--- 14902170 +>>14902130 +Why shouldn’t Israel be forced to pay reparations to the victims of judeo-bolshevism tho? +--- 14902176 +>>14902170 +I agree with you that Israel shouldn't be receiving reparations for the holocaust, the state that perpetrated it no longer exists and the state of Israel wasn't a victim +--- 14902178 +>>14902156 +Whos gonna punish them? Russia? Babushkas love Stalin +--- 14902182 +>>14902176 +>the state that perpetrated it no longer exists a +Countries are not real, the perpetrator was the white race. +--- 14902197 +>>14902182 +>the perpetrator was the white race. +Why are these j3ws smiling +--- 14902202 +>>14902178 +Ideally interpol +--- 14902210 +>>14902156 +States have very little to gain from demanding reparations from Israel. Any financial claims against individuals would be quite small unless they pull out meme tier historical claims, and even then such claims would be properly filtered through their own courts since they can just prosecute the individual responsible. But doing so would gain nothing and make the country doing it look stupid, with other countries not really caring about how it supposedly demonstrates how hypocritical Israel is. + +Or of course they could just go to war with Israel based on the idea that the Jewish people have aggrieved them, win, and then force Israel to pay reparations. +--- 14902214 +>>14902210 +So in short, jews control the courts, the media, and America and wouldn't let it fly +--- 14902219 +>>14902197 +Because their opressor stopped oppresing them but that doesnt mean they wont pay for their crime. The white race is a person, as you clearly know +>>14902202 +Interpol is a french meme +--- 14902225 +>>14902182 +And the victim was ash in the oven. So no need for reparations +--- 14902226 +>>14902214 +They don't control any of that anymore lol, maybe the press that no one reads. +--- 14902238 +>>14902226 +>Maybe +There is no maybe. The jews control the media. It's not even debatable anymore +>that no one reads +Is this because some people no longer trust the lying jews? Even if you were to be correct, which you are not, the media absolutely affects peoples' perceptions of social and economic issues. If they're not reading the newspaper, they're looking at retweeted headlines or abridged summaries from Brooklyn Dad or Jojofromjerz, and where do you think they get THEIR information from? The news of course +--- 14902247 +>>14902219 +>Because their opressor +I know what you're trying to do. The holocaust was based and self defense btw. But obviously the fact there was a world war fought between different European country proves Europeans are not to be judged under one banner. It's ungrateful spiteful kike thinking, and a false equivalence. +>Interpol is a french meme +They are called the inernational police so they should arrest perpetrators of international jewry +--- 14902358 +>>14902238 +>Is this because some people no longer trust the lying jews? +No, because people don't have the attention span for anything other than Twitter, TikTok and Youtube shorts anymore. +--- 14902378 +>>14902247 +>They are called the inernational police +Its a loose association of police forces with no power beyond sending email asking for voluntary help to other forces +--- 14902413 +>>14902378 +I don't understand what you are trying to say. I am saying that an organization calling itself interpol should deal with international criminal syndicates such as the jewish race regardless of their current power +--- 14902424 +>>14900896 (OP) +There's a reason Stalin purged them all from government and supported Palestine over Israel. The wrong side won the Cold War. +--- 14902427 +>>14902413 +Interpol isnt a real organization, its just an email list +--- 14902432 +>>14902427 +End jewishness +--- 14902452 +>>14902424 +https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm +Lmao +This narrative of Stalin hating kikes +--- 14902547 +>>14902452 +>trusting what he said +>not looking at what he did +OK +--- 14902666 +>>14902547 +>O-oy vey! How could you go-anon? We want the edgy teens believing communism is based and redpilled and definitely not jewish! +--- 14902738 +>>14902358 +Did I not literally say they are getting their news from mouthpieces they think are their friends, information that comes from partisan news anyway +Yes, it is significant that the power to control what Americans see and do not see lies in the hands of the jews of their minions. This is without even devling into the financial impact of owning massive media conglomerates during the television age, OR addressing it was a flagrantly false claim to begin with. How the fuck are they still making money with no interest? +--- 14902774 +>>14902738 +Idk Anon. Modern America is more antisemetic than it has been in the last 50 years. The media declared Trump a racist wignat Nazi and the majority of white people voted for him anyway. + +The media establishment has lost control, that's why they speeding up demographic destruction which backfired for them anyway. They are squealing because they know they're probably going to die in an oven seeing a bunch of Latinos LARPing in Hugo Boss ripoff uniforms throw them in. +--- 14902919 +>>14902774 +>Idk Anon. Modern America is more antisemetic than it has been in the last 50 years. +I highly doubt this is true but I know we are not anti-semitic enough. How is one even to gauge that? If you are referring to individual incidents of anti-semitism, not only would that prove nothing, as the vast majority are just cases of niggers attacking anything around them because they are violent and stupid, but the US population has increased by 100 million in 50 years. I would love to know what metric you go by +>The media establishment has lost control, +The (jewish) media has an inordinate amount of control over the Overton window. I don't know what community is next in their batting order but right now trannies are at the plate. This bud light tranny controversy is honestly one of the lamest campaigns I've seen. When I say they control the overton window I mean that left and right are mere tools for the jew. Though not equivalent, they still have literally every so-called "right wing" politician in the palm of their hands. Trump and Desantis both gargle Israeli semen; Trump obviously is no nazi. When they have control over the bounds of politics, they get 0 attention span retards discussing which brand of piss water to shove down their throats instead of government corruption, or the jews, their toxic influence, and how we can hold them accountable. That is the absolute #1 political issue to me. You even see fake right wing mouthpieces like Matt Walsh constantly defend the tribe. His goal seems to be to redirect American frustration towards "leftists" and "trannies" which are mere symptoms of +living under jewish rule. There are always going to be leftist jews complaining about Trump or Desantis however, because the white genocide initiative is paramount and anyone who becomes a hero or riles up the white working class is an enemy. That is how much they fucking hate us, and that's not even getting into jews who vote Republican. They are somehow worse +--- 14902945 +>>14902774 +>that's why they speeding up demographic destruction which backfired for them anyway. +What do you mean? Demographic replacement dilutes white power. It works as intended and they're not stopping because no one has stopped them. It would backfire if +>People would stand up to the government. All white men go on general strike and watch society grind to a halt. +>armed rebellion +>We have a government that acts in our best interests anyway, so not America, a country that both legally and illegally imports millions of spics AND pampers them with gibs +We have sanctuary cities ffs. Does such a thing exist anywhere else, where not only does the government turn a blind eye to law-breaking, they establish zones where breaking the law is completely legal and no one will be punished for it? +--- 14902961 +>>14902945 +>they establish zones where breaking the law is completely legal and no one will be punished for it? +Take your meds +--- 14902982 +>>14902961 +You know you are hitting the nail on the head when you get this retarded response +--- 14903094 +>>14902919 +It's violent attacks yeah, some of them at record levels like in New Jersey, the most attacks in its history. But also it's been completely completely normalised to speak of Jews owning the press/Hollywood etc.. Sure, some people would rebuff heavily, others agreeing. But it's major difference from a decade ago where you would get NPC stares. Even in Nazi Germany most people were still Weimar brained and defending Jews. + +>>14902945 +The illegals are mostly Christians. The real problem is the legal Asians, they are worse than Jews, even more subversive. + +Most of the cowards will leave the second any major violence breaks out though. +--- 14904032 +>>14903094 +>It's violent attacks yeah +When the population has grown 100+ million since the 1970s? In 1973 our population was 212 million. It makes since that there would be more total incidents. And how are they even determining which attacks are anti-semitic? Jews have this tendency, and yes it's intentional, to use this label against any criticism. I don't think it's a stretch to apply this broadly to any attacks against a jew. I remember being accused of being an anti-semite in real life because I asked questions about Israel's treatment about Palestinians. +The average black criminal lacks the brain capacity to understand the jewish question as completely separate from whites. It's also not uncommon for them to attack the elderly/middle-aged which all hasidic jews I've seen seem to be. To add on to this, it is extremely likely the ADL inflates numbers as much as it can. +>The illegals are mostly Christians +So? There are simply so many foreigners in this country in addition to the black slave descendants that the voice of an American has been heavily diluted. Most of the foreigners are Mexican. How would say the Democratic party operate if it were forced to address white issues instead of rallying its base of blacks with no critical thinking skills, self hating whites, and foreigners? +>The real problem is the legal Asians, they are worse than Jews, even more subversive. +Chinese are cutthroat, blacks and jews are some of the worst things to happen to America. When someone tried to speak of jewish overrepresentation they froze his bank accounts. The push for black culture into the mainstream is also lead by them. The Sugarhill Gang was bankrolled by Morris Levy, the head of Roulette Records. Rapper's Delight was one of the early rap hits. Kurtis Blow is another example, is considered the first rapper to sign to a major label. Mercury Records was formed by Irving Green, Berle Adams, Ray Greenberg, and Arthur Talmadge. For two of these you don't even need an early +--- 14904063 +>>14903094 +>>14904032 +...life section. So are jews communicating with each other telepathically to destroy their host nations? No, they are different people acting on basic instinct and what they have been taught by other jews. But there sure do seem to be a lot of negrophilic jews. The idea of jews being a clannish tribe that do not identify with Europeans is not an uncommon sentiment either. I believe there is a trickle down from rabbinical "goyim are slaves" circles that permeates the brains of even secular jews. diff --git a/his/14901115.txt b/his/14901115.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..622b92d8277e6fec41d9efdcdcbd26a98f3f7d2d --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14901115.txt @@ -0,0 +1,184 @@ +----- +--- 14901115 +In the early 1900s, Germany had a bargain with Egypt where its archeologists could dig up ancient stuff. They would then make a list of what they found, the Egyptians would examine the list, and approve of certain objects being taken back to museums in Germany. + +A German archeologist discovered the Bust of Nefertiti, lied about it on the report, and took it to Germany. Since then, Imperial Germany, Weimar Germany, Nazi Germany, West Germany, and modern Germany have all refused demands by Egypt to return the bust, making it the only foreign policy decision all five states agree upon. +--- 14901118 +>>14901115 (OP) +thats because its a forgery +--- 14901454 +>>14901115 (OP) +>Western archaeologists orchestrated the massive sampling on the best remaining works of art in the early 20th century. Aside from their colonial outlook, one of their alleged motivations was to protect these works of arts from vandalism due to Islamic iconoclasm and the depredations of treasure hunters. +>Most of the dismantled panels were sent to the Museum für Indische Kunst, Berlin, Germany, but ironically and tragically many were lost in the destructions of World War II, with only photographs or drawings remaining in the best cases. + +About the Kizil Caves. Given the current situation in Europe it's somewhat reasonable for thirdies to want their artifacts back but it's also hard to complain in cases like these, any archaeologist seeing art near Muslims would likely smuggle it to Europe immediately. The sad part is that even nowadays Chinese tourists are still ravaging the place. + +I don't think there will ever be any safe places for relics. Maybe if South America could get its shit together and stop burning their own museums down, but that's a pipe dream. +--- 14901473 +>>14901454 +>any archaeologist seeing art near Muslims would likely smuggle it to Europe immediately. +That's a weak justification for theft. Especially since we have to this day westerners who try to smuggle out goods. One Italian man in Malindi, Kenya stole religious idols still in used within sacred forests. He not only refused to give them back but justified it by saying they weren't using it anymore. not that people who made those idols stopped placing them in the forest because of reality that they got gypped + +The only reason why the Nubian pyramids were in ruins was because an Italian bombed them in search of treasures. +--- 14901505 +>>14901473 +Source on the Nubian pyramids? +--- 14901564 +>>14901473 +>The destruction was carried out in stages. Initially, the statues were fired at for several days using anti-aircraft guns and artillery. This caused severe damage, but did not obliterate them. During the destruction, Taliban Information Minister Qudratullah Jamal said that, "The destruction work is not as easy as people would think. You can't knock down the statues by dynamite or shelling as both of them have been carved in a cliff. They are firmly attached to the mountain." Later, the Taliban placed anti-tank mines at the bottom of the niches, so that when fragments of rock broke off from artillery fire, the statues would receive additional destruction from particles that set off the mines. In the end, the Taliban lowered men down the cliff face and placed explosives into holes in the Buddhas. After one of the explosions failed to obliterate the face of one of the Buddhas, a rocket was launched that left a hole in the remains of the stone head. + +This is all the justification anyone should need. +--- 14901579 +>>14901564 +>talking about egyptian antiquities +>quotes out the afghani taliban +??? +--- 14901590 +>>14901579 +read the thread again +--- 14902449 +>>14901115 (OP) +Ok +--- 14902569 +>>14901579 +>Al-Aziz Uthman (1171–1198), the second Ayyubid Sultan of Egypt, tried to destroy the Giza pyramid complex. He gave up after only damaging the Pyramid of Menkaure because the task proved too large. +Happy now? +--- 14903108 +>>14902569 +>(1171–1198) +--- 14903241 +>>14902569 +>there is considerable evidence of popular local pride in monuments such as the Giza Pyramids and the Sphinx, so much that these monuments were never destroyed out of the fear of causing riots.[2] The monuments of Pharaonic Egypt were generally seen as possessing magical powers and were viewed as objects of respect by ordinary Egyptians, despite the fact that the Koran execrates ancient Egypt as an especially reprehensible period of jahiliyyah.[3] As late as 1378, it was reported that nominally Muslim peasants would go burn incense at night in front of the Sphinx while uttering prayers which were said to empower the Sphinx to speak, which led a Sufi holy man to attack the Sphinx.[2] Local legends claimed the attack on the Sphinx led to a massive sand storm at Giza, which only ended with the holy man's lynching. + +>In Egypt, the popular belief that the Pyramids and the Sphinx together with the other ruins of ancient Egypt had magical powers did much to ensure their survival with one 13th century Muslim writer, Jamal al-Din al-Idrisi, warning that to destroy the Pyramids would unleash dark supernatural forces that would cause such carnage that horses would wade in human blood, leading him to the conclusion that the Pyramids were best left alone.[4] Such beliefs about the magical powers said to be invested in the ruins of ancient Egypt testified to a certain popular pride in and reverence for the ancient past of Egypt.[3] In the same way, Egyptians in the Middle Ages invented a story that the Pharaoh mentioned in the Book of Exodus and in the Koran was not an Egyptian, but rather an Iranian, in an attempt to salvage pride in the ancient past despite the way the Koran condemns it.[4] To prevent the destruction of the ruins, medieval Egyptians usually "Islamized" the ruins by inventing stories associating them with the companions of the Islamic prophet Muhammad or local Sufi saints, thereby turning them into quasi-Islamic sites that could not be destroyed.[3] +--- 14903287 +>>14901115 (OP) (OP) +Why wouldnt the onions governments we have today give it back? +--- 14903333 +>>14903108 +>muslims aren't stuck in the middle ages +--- 14903363 +>>14903108 +>>14903241 +Is this supposed to be some sort of rebuttal to the matter at hand? It doesn't even logically connect to my post +--- 14903376 +>>14903363 +lmfao the shitskin can't read +--- 14903381 +>>14903376 +Who is fighting who right now? What's your position here? +--- 14903484 +>>14903363 +Im pointing out that Egyptians have been protecting their antiquities even during the middle ages, most if not all the destruction was done by the foreign Caliphs +trying to draw a comparison between Egypt and taliban afghanistan is retarded +--- 14903516 +>>14903484 +Posting that Egyptian commoners had to invent complex larps to show how the pagan temples are ackshually Islamic doesn't refute the point that Islam is an active danger to them by any stretch. The pyramids right now are not threatened since Egypt depends upon tourism, but a scenario where it collapses into civil war and retarded salafists destroy things isn't even unimaginable, and that's the point. +--- 14903620 +>>14903516 +>doesn't refute the point that Islam is an active danger to them by any stretch. +it shows that the people themselves care about them enough to protect them, trying to ignore the reality of egyptian culture and commoner outlook for some sect of islam that a small schizo minority believes in is very flimsy +its like saying antiquities cant be trusted in western nations in europe because of the constant riots/wars in the past >>14901454 +>where it collapses into civil war +Le egypt civil war meme has been parroted since 2013 and literally nothing came of it +--- 14903636 +>>14903516 +It proves that the beliefs held in Islam about antiquities are not always translated into destructive action against them +--- 14903641 +>>14903620 +Antiquities should probably not be held in the Balkans or Russia either, yes. +>Le egypt civil war meme has been parroted since 2013 and literally nothing came of it +You are mentally retarded and either missing or deliberately evading the point +>>14903636 +Puyi proves that the beliefs held in communism about aristocrats are not always translated into killing them, yet you would clearly be retarded to remain in a communist country as an aristocrat. +--- 14903728 +>>14901115 (OP) +Actually I have it in animal crossing +--- 14903740 +>>14901454 +I think the Taliban destroying the Buddhas in Afghanistan says enough + +>>14901473 +>black people and africa + +No one cares about that irrelevant shit +--- 14903822 +>>14901118 +If it's a forgery then why does Egypt want it back so bad? Probably just to destroy it because it looks too white and they can't cope. +--- 14903829 +>>14903822 +>it because it looks too white +the fuck +--- 14903836 +>>14903740 +I hope niggers jump you at school tomorrow Chang +--- 14903839 +>>14903740 +>I think the Taliban destroying the Buddhas in Afghanistan says enough +that was based because it made chuds like you seethe +--- 14903899 +>>14901115 (OP) +>In December 2009, Friederike Seyfried, director of Berlin's Egyptian Museum and Papyrus Collection, presented to the Egyptians documents held by the museum regarding the discovery of the bust, which include a protocol signed by the German excavator and the Egyptian Antiquities Service. In the documents, the bust was listed as a painted plaster bust of a princess, but in his diary, Borchardt clearly referred to it as the head of Nefertiti. "This proves that Borchardt wrote this description so that his country can get the statue," Hawass said. "These materials confirm Egypt's contention that (he) did act unethically with intent to deceive." However, Hawass said Egypt didn't consider the bust to be a looted antiquity. "I really want it back," he said.[39] His statement also said that the authority to approve the return of the bust to Egypt lies with the Prussian Cultural Heritage Foundation and the German culture minister.[53] + +So they were too lazy and basically didn't bother to check the list. "plaster bust of a princess" is pretty fucking significant. They never cared about the history before until they realised its worth tourist money. + +>>14903241 +This paragraph is literally mixing pride with fear. These are the grave robbers that tore the marbel off the pyramids. They never associated with it, they just feared it. + +It's the same thing with the Nafturian ruins, the superstitious Muslims fear it too much to fuck with it. +--- 14903910 +>>14903620 +>Le egypt civil war meme has been parroted since 2013 and literally nothing came of it +Le Syrian civil war meme has been parroted since 2008 +--- 14903929 +>>14903899 +retard +>Nafturian +retard +--- 14903930 +>westerners don't bring enough aid to our starving children +>say you'll destroy the buddha statues if they don't bring money +>they offer to buy the statues instead, giving you more than enough to feed the entire country +>instead you spend several millions of dollars worth in missiles shooting at the buddha for an entire week +euroids absolutely btfo +--- 14903939 +>>14903836 +We’re talking about actual historical artifacts that have cultural weight as they are tied to ancient civilizations, not Chief Peepee Tûtû’s bongo drums he plays before rallying his child soldiers to butcher a village of pygmies. + +>>14903839 +>destroy history to own le chuds + +Mao is that you? +--- 14903952 +>>14903822 +>it looks too white +it doesn't particularly "white" sweety, unfortunately for yt pipo, you're not special, sandniggers are your racial brothers and sisters and share your features +--- 14904113 +>>14903899 +>So they were too lazy and basically didn't bother to check the list. "plaster bust of a princess" is pretty fucking significant +If you go on to read that article, it says he wrapped it up and let a guy vaguely look at the box, knowing he'd be too lazy to examine something that was already packed up, because he knew instantly the bust's value and wanted to downplay it to the Egyptians. +--- 14904120 +>>14903822 +lol what, it looks a copt woman +--- 14904183 +>>14903930 +>they offer to buy the statues instead, giving you more than enough to feed the entire country +a couple millions is nothing though. Getting sanctioned by NATO and then some European fuckers saying they want to pay for some old ass statues would piss anyone off +--- 14904186 +>>14903484 +Lmfao why you even need to explain yourself +What a cuck +--- 14904204 +>>14903829 +>>14903952 +>>14904120 +The people who built the Great Pyramids were white. +--- 14904255 +>>14903641 +What about western europe or germany? that part of the world has seen plenty of conflict +>>14903910 +you are retarded if you think the political structure or demographics of egypt is anything like syria +Egypt is vastly more homogenous and centralized +--- 14904528 +>>14904204 +we were kings and stuff dude! diff --git a/his/14901185.txt b/his/14901185.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..62067ca13a8fe0e7dd4278dc84f434a89e53291c --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14901185.txt @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +----- +--- 14901185 +>He bad because he banned jews from marrying pagans and Christians +why do the chosen people even want to mingle with the hated goyim? +--- 14901288 +>>14901185 (OP) +Shiksa pussy got them acting strange +--- 14902233 +>>14901185 (OP) +This is why +--- 14902302 +>>14902233 +Cool theory but not real. +>>14901185 (OP) +they want their segregation to be self-imposed. +--- 14902349 +>>14902302 +Jews literally suck mutilated baby penis blood, they're cannibals. +--- 14902355 +>>14902349 +Metzitzah B'Peh, as horrible as it is does not prove Jews are Neanderthals anon I'm sorry. +--- 14902664 +>>14901185 (OP) +Yeah +--- 14902773 +>>14902355 +I studided Genocides for my Doctorate. The Jewish Holocaust professor who was the head of the History Department believed Jews were Neanderthals and that the Cro-Magnons shoah'd them out of Europe 20,000 years ago. +Whether it's genetically proveable or not, it's the headcanon of many influential jews, and apart of their culture and biological inclinations. +--- 14902792 +>>14901185 (OP) +parasites need a host +--- 14903140 +>>14902302 +Their own book has them banned from marrying goyim and jews are slaughtered by constantly for mixing. Their other books are super racist towards goyim +--- 14903146 +>>14903140 +>have book that says you are the chosen ones and everyone else are gentile cattles that should work for you +>gets you kicked out or massacred +shocked Pikachu face +--- 14903161 +>>14901185 (OP) +No, this is why he’s bad +--- 14903173 +>>14901185 (OP) +Goyim pussy the best +--- 14903182 +>>14902233 +anon, anyone who is not fully African has neanderthal blood. Which probably includes you. +"The neanderthal predation hypothesis" has some water to hold but only answers the wuestion why humans killed neanderthals to extinction and anything else claimed in the book is just speculation that ignores the fact that neanderthals became extinct by the time homo sapiens societies spread around the Eurasia. +Also what even the first pic is even trying to depict. +--- 14903293 +>>14903161 +Are they self aware? +--- 14903298 +And then that dumbass Julian started kissing jewish ass +--- 14903361 +>>14903293 +Neanderthal skulls are like niggers but ten times more emotionally unstable. No, they're not self aware. They operate purely on instinct, complete animals with no ability to doubt themselves. They will either kill everything on the planet after castrating and de-castrating it into oblivion or be slaughtered by people who don't want all life to go extinct. +>>14903182 +why didn't you respond to my previous post? Replying to the OG post with a bunch of lies and word slop is pretty jewish. +Also Modern Europeans have next to no Neanderthal DNA. Cro-Magnons and Modern Europeans are almost 1-1 the same unless they have admixture like Italians, Greeks, Spaniards, etcetera. + +You're fooling no one. +--- 14903644 +>>14901185 (OP) +BGC makes jewess wet +--- 14904503 +>>14901185 (OP) +Nobody ever said this guy was bad +In fact nobody except late-romaboos even know who this guy is +Regardless he was a decent and underated emperor +--- 14904512 +>>14901288 +You become Jewish from mothers side, Schlomo. It means that Jewish women fuck goyim cock. +--- 14904822 +>>14904503 +Also not because he was anti jewish was just a good emperor diff --git a/his/14901230.txt b/his/14901230.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9f12a050cf96bf305dfe6936dbc79a16d260f505 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14901230.txt @@ -0,0 +1,214 @@ +----- +--- 14901230 +How ethnically homogenous were Vikings? +--- 14901251 +>>14901230 (OP) +WE +--- 14901668 +I'm under the impression that viking raiding parties were not scandinavian-exclusive. There were non-scandies among them. I remember from my early middle ages history class a few years back being told of a visigoth who was a member of a viking party. + +Idk about the extent of the diversity though. It might have just been a few odd exceptions. +--- 14901752 +Pure african american stock +--- 14901755 +>>14901230 (OP) +i hate american culture so fucking much +--- 14902323 +Norwegian archeologists investigating Viking burials in Ireland found out that 20 - 25 % of the buried Vikings was Sami (Finno-Ugrian) from northern Norway +--- 14902371 +>>14901668 +That's because there was no such thing as "Scandi" identity, they were Germanic and would not have perceived Goths as more foreign than other Germanic tribes. Half of "Norse mythology" is about Goths and other continental Germans, they were the same culture. However, I doubt their inclusivity went beyond that. +>>14902323 +There are 0 Sami-like Viking samples in the British Isles. +--- 14902437 +>>14901230 (OP) +She could pass as a local in any modern Scandinavian major city. +--- 14902444 +>>14901230 (OP) +The viking graves are very heterogeneous. But many of these guys probably weren't vikings but slaves. +Check out the PCA of published Scandinavian samples. They are all over the place. Especially Baltic presence is very visible. Gotland samples are mostly Baltic-like. +--- 14902459 +>>14902444 +Lots of samples. Many southern ones, many Baltic and Uralic. +--- 14902480 +>>14902459 +They don't seem to get much more southern than flanders and barely more baltic than lithuania +--- 14902515 +>>14902480 +You have some French like and one Spanish like. Many samples are Lithuanian like, two Finnish like, one seems to be pure Saami (that viking era triangle). +Some Slavic samples also show up, but yeah, the majority is Scandinavia. + +I think the colored figures on graph A show averages. +--- 14902519 +>>14902444 +Germanics had a weird practice of capturing slaves on raids, then allowing them to work their way to freedom and become full members of society without reservations. I'm still perplexed at how Ulfilas was allowed to happen. Same reason there's L21 in and N in Scandinavia now. +--- 14902537 +>>14902519 +There was a DNA study about some medieval Scandi village pre- and post-black death. The pre-black death samples were more diverse, with lots of guys who looked like Northwest Europeans. After the pandemic only Scandis remained. +--- 14902546 +>>14902537 +Disproportionate impact on lower classes, I take it. They really lucked out. +--- 14902584 +>>14902459 +>40% of them clustering in england +WE WUZ EFFECTIVELY +--- 14902612 +>>14902459 +Finnish admixture was present is Scandinavia before the viking period, so it probably reflects some ancient migrations. +--- 14902633 +>>14902612 +>The burial chamber is the largest c. 10 m2 (NNE–SSW) of all known in the lake Mälar region and northern Sweden from CE 200–700.57 >The human skeletal parts that remained were a collar and a rib bone with healed trauma belonging to a middle-aged large, muscular male,74,75 emphasising the impression that the grave was built for a trained male warrior. >The gold finger rings, one of them the largest gold finger ring ever found in Sweden, were probably military honours; the chain mail, belt and the boar-like tusks, and canines from pigs, probably for a horse fitting, may indicate that the man had been in Roman service. >In the grave was a worn gold coin used as a pendant, struck for the Roman emperor Maximian Hercules 291CE.76,77 Bones from a dog and a goshawk were found in the chamber, as well as a phalanx from a bear, suggesting that bear skin was placed with the deceased. >The goshawk represents the earliest evidence of hunting with birds of prey in the region, a tradition that otherwise belongs to the 6th century.78,79 >The numerous (more than 20) domestic species in the mound filling are interpreted as animals used for the burial feast.75,78 + +Yeah, some of them were even elites. The guy was N1a1a1a1a1a1a7a. +--- 14903023 +>>14902459 +basically everything remotely european +--- 14903059 +>>14901668 +>Visigoth +>9th century +--- 14903066 +80% of sampled Vikings were Haplogroup NO Northern Chinese and Northern Japanese, which meant bugmen completely dominated whites for 3 centuries. +--- 14903079 +>>14903023 +Yeah. I guess except for that one Saami sample. Let's be serious, blacks were extremely uncommon in ancient and medieval Europe. It's just revisionism and propaganda. + +I can think of 4 samples with some black ancestry (that's more than just North African ancestry) out of thousands (I think it's close to 7000) European ancient DNA samples (including post-antiquity samples, but not modern ones). + +1. The East African/Sudanese-like sample from Roman Era Viminacium +2. The 23% black girl from Anglo-Saxon England +3 and 4. Two guys from Muslim Spain. + +I guess there was also some slave found in a ditch from 17th century Spain or Portugal. +--- 14903111 +>>14902537 +But Modern Scandis are nearly majority NW Euro, Low German/Saxon and Dutch. +--- 14903557 +>>14902537 +>Orangeoids tell the fair robust Keltic BVLLs to fight the disease +>The Keltic BVLLs singlehandedly conquer BLACK'Death and die in the process +>Scandis inherit the labors of the L21 BVLLs +--- 14903614 +>>14901230 (OP) +Icelanders werent homogenous. They are and were a mix of celts and nords. You can see it in their phenotype. Hafthor Bjornson looks like an oversized scot, and pic related is an Icelandic model, heavy celtic influence. +--- 14903632 +>>14903023 +>>14903079 +The only named non-European inhabitant of Scandinavian that we know of is Geirmund Heljarskinn (his epithet is literally "of-hel-skinned"). He was half Central Asian, and other Scandinavians were, apparently, very aware of his racial background and viewed it as quite divergent from theirs. He's another one of these weird "slave who gets to work his way up" cases that >>14902519 talks about. Whether he was real or not is up for debate. +--- 14903653 +>>14903632 +People like him would have existed in the Hunnic-occupied areas, I wonder if anyone thought of that at the time or if there was too much of a gap between them. +--- 14903661 +>>14903653 +>Hunnic +--- 14903667 +>>14903661 +If you mean to say they weren't in Scandinavia, there was still great cultural exchange to the point of Atli being a Scandinavian given name, so it doesn't seem impossible to me for someone to recognise it. +--- 14903672 +>>14903667 +nah +I remember seeing paper with WMAF burials, where huns were handling asiatic women to 'germanics' that were allied to them +--- 14903694 +>>14902519 +>ulgilas was not actually a german but a roman cappadocian. +What the fuck I did not know this. +--- 14903697 +>>14903614 +Icelanders are the purest Germanics. +It’s just assumed they are all half Celtic. +They are 25% Celtic 75% Germanic, Norwegians and Swedes are not even 60% Germanic. +Icelanders look more Celtic due to their climate selecting for phenotypic traits more common in North West Atlantic. +--- 14903698 +>>14903694 +Ulfilas, FUCK. +--- 14903719 +>>14903694 +He would be specially qualified to translate the Bible since he would actually know Greek from his parents. Just bizarre how tolerant they are to integrating foreigners like this. +--- 14903731 +>>14902537 +the scandi were jews that poisoned all goys +--- 14903738 +>>14903719 +I just saw the name and assumed german. Same way youd see musa ibn musa from zaragosa mentioned sans context and you'd think it was an arab. +--- 14903743 +They raided Africa and went as far as the new world just to collect timber, maybe they did pick up a few darker mercenaries from Spain or North Africa I don’t know or give a shit. However these shows did nothing to make an interesting character (I haven’t watched them but cmon) you could use the diversity thing as a tool for real historical education like a few moors or something I don’t know what they’d do it’d be nice if a show could teach me +--- 14903746 +>>14903672 +Misconception. Those women were Eastern Germanic rather than Asiatic. +--- 14903776 +>>14903743 +Ypu could unironically easiñy cpntrive your way to show plenty of slavs and italians. Vikang diacoveries and conquests are more interesting than their ethnic make up anyway. (Although I find the prospect of muslim vikings intriguing.) +--- 14903782 +>>14903059 +https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Asturias +--- 14903794 +>>14903782 +At that point a visigoth was judt a spainiard. +--- 14903801 +>>14903776 +>easiñy +>Vikang +Behold, the identity of the anti-nord poster. +--- 14903802 +>>14901230 (OP) +--- 14903803 +>>14902584 +>>40% of them clustering in england +>WE WUZ EFFECTIVELY +Who wuz? idgi +--- 14903805 +>>14903794 +Spaniards arguably don't exist even now, let alone in the 800s. Even the biggest group - the Castilians - only emerged many centuries later. +--- 14903806 +>>14903614 +>>14903697 +British celts are not celts. Irish are (and before great migrations during the middle ages triggered by normans connecting britain to the continent) were, pure bell beakers. +What icelanders took as slaves and mixed with were bell beakers. Not "celts" nor modern irish people +--- 14903808 +>>14903801 +I just like calling them vikangz because it gits. Nothing against them. + I call mexicans mexikangz too. +--- 14903813 +>>14903806 +The word "Celt" simply has to be understood to mean something else in the context of that time period and place, like "Latin" in the context of the Americas. +--- 14903815 +>>14903803 +Anglos wuz vikingz +--- 14903816 +>>14903805 +Then some variant of nothern hispano-roman. Of germanic descent obviously but the difference between the goths and their subjects was dissapearing rapidly. +--- 14903819 +>>14903614 +>>14903697 +fuck off celtlarper +--- 14903823 +>>14903808 +Fits* +--- 14903848 +>>14903819 +So you've debunked me by proving my point? The chart literally shows that icelanders are the scandis that are the most closest to celts (Scots and irish). Keep coping. Iceland is a celto-germanic land. +--- 14903849 +>>14903815 +>Anglos wuz vikingz +fr fr no cap? +--- 14903855 +>>14903848 +Give it enough time and the germans would've been outcompeted bh inuit I bet. Without mainland help I mean. +--- 14903859 +>>14903855 +And I'm not shitposting I genuinely believe in a long enough timescale the inuit would have discovered iceland and displaced the norse dirt people. +--- 14903869 +>>14903859 +Inuits were weak. They had no fighting prowess or the spirit of a warrior. +--- 14903885 +>>14903869 +They wiped out the tunit and the only thing preventing from enacting total injun death was population size. They were (and are) ciolent as fuck. A battle against the isolated and poor islanders would be a fair fight and with some inventiveness maybe one they'd win. +--- 14903889 +>>14903848 +Celts never existed +--- 14903890 +>>14903885 +Violent? +--- 14903892 +>>14903890 +Yes, myself, you sausage fingered faggot. diff --git a/his/14901694.txt b/his/14901694.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5041d4cbf7652eaaa1d292a9ca105cbf49da309d --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14901694.txt @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +----- +--- 14901694 +>both are first world industrialized wealthy countries with access to all of modernity +>Italy remains, somewhat, Catholic and the Church retains a strong presence in national culture and identity +>Scandinavians all become almost 90% atheist, Christianity is outright mocked and rejected as "foreign" despite zealous Lutheranism having been their standard for 300 years +What gives? Im genuinely fascinated by this social phenomenon. Why don't Italians reject Christianity as being an inherent aspect of their culture, but northern Euros outright dislike what was the faith of their great grandparents? +--- 14901698 +protestantism developed a culture of challenging existing religion, catholicism didn't +--- 14901728 +>>14901694 (OP) +christianity is completely dead in italy +--- 14901741 +>>14901694 (OP) +>>14901728 +Christianity is only in the south. The average northern Italian is either prot or atheist but the southern Italian attends church service at least 13 times per day +--- 14901761 +Religiousness seems to spiral the wealthier and more educated you are. + +Big exceptions in my mind are the mormons +--- 14901763 +>>14901694 (OP) +to be fair anon the pope literally lives in their peninsula. There are towns with 3000 people in Italy with fuck huge cathedrals. It's hard to not be aware of the catholic church in these circumstances. Meanwhile what actual presence has Lutheranism had since the 1600s? Fucking nothing. +--- 14901771 +>>14901694 (OP) +It's because Lutheranism was a German sect whereas the Catholic Church is universal. Lutheranism is inherently pro-Germany, the Church is pro-Christ. Protestantism is only a few hundred years old, it played no major role in the history of Nords. Italy was one Roman under the Roman Church. +--- 14901773 +>>14901741 +>The average northern Italian is either prot or atheist +Never heard of Protestant Lombards. +--- 14901870 +>>14901773 +Probably don't exist but if they do it's someone in alto adyge or the Aosta valley. +--- 14901959 +>>14901771 +>, it played no major role in the history of Nords +Literally all of modern Scandinavian History until like 1950 occured when they were Lutheran. +It's also not really a big jump from Germany to Scandinavia lol, the languages are very VERY easy to learn for each other and most Swedish kings spoke German fluently +--- 14901967 +Because Catholicism is the true church and protestantism is a heresy +--- 14901972 +>>14901694 (OP) +think it has more to do with the fact the catholic churches main HQ is in Italy ever since it was officially founded +--- 14901987 +>>14901959 +>modern +>history +--- 14902008 +>>14901741 +christianity is completely dead in south italy +--- 14902347 +>>14902006 +The bottom looks more noble +--- 14902382 +>>14901694 (OP) +Italy is sort of favela thuggish culturally + the Vatican is literrally inside. Compare with spain instead and you notice more or less the same pattern. Spaniards are atheists if not militant anti-christians nowadays. Particullary women. +--- 14902654 +>>14901694 (OP) +They had reasons +--- 14903642 +>>14901987 +You do know that "modern era" generally refers to the 1600s onwards, right +--- 14903673 +>>14901694 (OP) +Because Christianity in Northern Europe is just an instrument of the state for cultural control. From the early 1900s on there was a period of transition in which Lutheranism was replaced by some vague form of liberal progressivism that was later supplemented by multiculturalism, but Scandinavians remain as obedient and robodic as ever, which is particularly clear in the case of Sweden at least until recently. +--- 14903711 +>>14903673 +They were cool when they did eugenics. diff --git a/his/14901702.txt b/his/14901702.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..bb3c003feaca59f52532824f39089717590c900d --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14901702.txt @@ -0,0 +1,137 @@ +----- +--- 14901702 +Is it a grave sin to make your wife wear clothes like this in public because it pleases you? I'm asking in terms of Christianity + +I know it's not a sin to make her wear these clothes at home. But I feel nothing if she wears them at home. +--- 14901705 +>>14901702 (OP) +Yes you degenerate coombrain +--- 14901706 +Is making other men want to fuck your girl cuckoldry or chadery? +--- 14901716 +>>14901705 +There's no point in these clothes at home. They'll just come off in like 5 minutes anyway. Outside I can't take them off so I would get to see her in them for a long time which would be good. + +>>14901706 +I'm not really thinking of others. I think I get turned on when she's just doing normal stuff while wearing them +--- 14901720 +No, actually if you truly fear god u must do it. +After all if you dont feel constantly aroused by your wife u will not make decent sex with her and according to Saint Peter +God will be mad at you and he will not listen to your prayers +So no sex = no forgiveness +--- 14901721 +>>14901702 (OP) +Company I work for did a whole house remodel for a couple that had just moved into the state half a year ago. The woman dressed not unlike this around us all the time for the two months. Whether you let or make them, well it couldn't be me brother. +--- 14901725 +>>14901702 (OP) +Yes it is because you are causing others to sin. And that is a very bad one. +--- 14901734 +>>14901725 +How am I causing others to sin? + +>>14901720 +That sounds good to me +--- 14901737 +>>14901725 +>causing others to sin. + +Dont understand the basic doctrine of sin +--- 14901738 +>>14901734 +>How am I causing others to sin? +Having your wife wear immodest clothes so others lust after her. +--- 14901744 +>>14901702 (OP) +How do you get a wife who both looks good in those clothes and is willing to wear them in public? +--- 14901751 +>>14901706 +it's alpha behavior because you treat her like your pet/object +--- 14901805 +>>14901744 +I dunno it's tough. +--- 14901915 +>>14901805 +--- 14901925 +This is pretty hot if you make your partner do this but is it a sin if there's no external intentions? +--- 14901929 +>>14901925 +--- 14901932 +>>14901925 +LMFAO +--- 14901936 +>>14901929 +This is more tame of course. +--- 14902527 +>>14901702 (OP) +Ask your priest +--- 14903068 +>>14901936 +She cuter here +--- 14903078 +Only a cuckold allows her to dress like that in public, instead of exclusively around you +--- 14903080 +>>14901702 (OP) +i know a guy that did that and is a tranny now. +--- 14903092 +>>14901702 (OP) +>is it a grave sin +Not grave but it's against the general principles of modesty and prudery, and in general a sin of vanity and mildly scandalous in nature (inducing lust in other men). +Anyways I think it's an error if Christians get overtly obsessed over this shit. Grave sins are whole another breed and to get disproportionately affected by these minor sins put Christians in a bad light. +--- 14903097 +>>14901702 (OP) +all women are whores +--- 14903100 +>>14901936 +>>14901929 +>hot girl +lol +>>14901702 (OP) +Try not to be a coomer but if you are a coomer and can't help it keep it to yourself. +--- 14903118 +>>14903080 +What did he do? +--- 14903206 +>>14903092 +No, it is a grave sin. + +27 You have heard that it was said to them of old: Thou shalt not commit adultery. +28 But I say to you, that whosoever shall look on a woman to lust after her, hath already committed adultery with her in his heart. + +Jesus is saying here that adultery of the heart is internally morally equivalent (having the same effect on the soul) as adultery committed in reality, and by allowing your wife to dress like a slut in public you are leading other men into this grave sin, thus gravely sinning yourself. +--- 14903214 +>>14901702 (OP) +Yes +--- 14903222 +>>14901734 +>How am I causing others to sin? +"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife" is literally right there in the Ten Commandments, anon. + +You are actively trying to get other men to covet your wife, so you're encouraging sin. +--- 14903301 +>>14901702 (OP) +Literal cuck. +--- 14903320 +>>14903206 +>equivalent (having the same effect on the soul) as adultery committed in reality +No it's not. He said "in her heart", and not to detract the fact it is indeed a sin and one should ask forgiveness but sins range in severity. A carnal adultery is still way more severe than the thought. +>by allowing your wife +if you live under a legislation where you can't impose a dress code on your wife, you reproached her and she continues to do it it's on her. +--- 14904008 +>>14903301 +Absolutely no cucking +--- 14904135 +>>14901702 (OP) +Only is you don't let her have sex with random men afterward +--- 14904145 +>>14904135 +Is public sex forbidden? +--- 14904185 +>>14901751 +Yea you’re totally alpha when your skimpy clothed girl eye fucks me +--- 14904574 +>>14904185 +But you don't get to touch +--- 14904646 +>>14901702 (OP) +>Is it a grave sin... +Not only that, but it's against basic common sense, be it Christian or heathen. What the hell is wrong with you cumbrains?! diff --git a/his/14901748.txt b/his/14901748.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c40e5aed8f3bd6dde41fea9fa2a90e92e48df357 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14901748.txt @@ -0,0 +1,39 @@ +----- +--- 14901748 +Do you ever think about what bygone historical periods were "like?" We can pin down so much detail with archaeology and history, we know all these facts, but what were people LIKE. I feel like historians rarely talk about this directly, at most their personal "feel" for it just comes out indirectly in their writing. On the other hand, historical fiction writers have to have a "feel" for what it was "like," because they're not just describing details, they're making the whole setting come to life. But most of the time they do this by making the people "basically like us, but a little different" (if that makes sense). + +It seems like historians default to that perspective a lot too. They make the reasonable assumption that Old Kingdom Egyptians were just ordinary people too, like us, with similar issues like work and family problems. Like we can see in the Heqanakht papyri, everyday mundane stuff that we can identify with. + +But I can never get over how different the ancients seem in spite of this. Sure they were similar in a lot of surface ways, they're human. But what if they really did, for example, go around talking and thinking "like" the way they do in the official records and narratives we have? What if people in the Bronze Age had a fundamentally different consciousness, like some kind of Sapir-Whorf type of thing, but even deeper than that? + +Sometimes I get flashes of almost feeling like I can directly access what a past era was "like" in this subtle way, but I can never hold onto them. +--- 14901846 +Thats a interesting notion OP. Its unfortunately something we will never experience because it is a 'feeling' you get when you're in a place and space. You can extensively research something but until you physically experience it you will never get that feel. + +I personally feel any ancient society would have a vastly different feeling to ours. Their lifestyle and points of reference are so far removed from ours it would be unrecognisable apart from human essentials like eating. +--- 14902487 +>>14901748 (OP) +No +--- 14903143 +>>14901748 (OP) +>We can pin down so much detail with archaeology and history, we know all these facts +Lmao +--- 14903151 +>>14901748 (OP) +They were like this +>strong violent men got pussy and respect in their local communities +>weak men like you got bullied or killed and got crumbs of pussy +If you want more info about past societies let me know +--- 14903336 +>>14901748 (OP) +Iliad was written because some noblemen or basileis or wathever wanted the figure of the aristocracy and its values to be depicted for posterity (the oral story is older) so you could argue greek best men and heroes were basically sadistic uncontrolled infant-minded giga-chads +--- 14904368 +>>14903336 +That's what Tuchman says about them and about medieval Normans too +--- 14904422 +>>14901748 (OP) +Then there is EaNasir and his bad copper... +--- 14904524 +>>14901846 +>Its unfortunately something we will never experience because it is a 'feeling' you get when you're in a place and space. +You can. Just interact with people from different culture. Interacting with Eskimos, nomadic Mongolians, untouched Amazon tribes or Muslims probably wouldn't feel so different to compared to their counterparts in both behavior and mentality diff --git a/his/14901844.txt b/his/14901844.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d2dbd696fcc7b8ca27257ac0b60ae654b4734a6a --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14901844.txt @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +----- +--- 14901844 +What causes this? Why are the Welsh so dead set on speaking their native tongue while other Celtic regions mostly speak English? It seems like it would be the other way around seeing as they've been under English occupation longer. +--- 14901849 +welshmen are based. anyway look at that percentage, that's all hicks +--- 14901926 +>>14901844 (OP) +ironically its the welsh's early capitulation to the english that created the conditions for their language to be preserved the way it has been. both scotland and ireland historically were much more rebellious than wales, which was fully conquered by the middle of the 12th century, and england as a result sent way more of their settlers to their lands to both create a base of english support there and to quell their rebelliousness. wales was generally left alone for much of its history, unlike scotland or ireland which were host to numerous wars with the english over the years. that combined with the fact that during the dal riata and anglo saxon period the brythonic speaking celts in scotland and england were driven into wales, thus making it a very densely populated welsh speaking area made it fertile ground for the preservation of their ancient tounge. +--- 14902258 +>>14901844 (OP) +Based Welshmen +--- 14902268 +>>14901844 (OP) +They speak it in Patagonia... they even celebrate Eisteddfodd or however it's spelled. Mostly in small towns tho. +--- 14902276 +>>14902268 +its always a riot when a Patagonian visits wales and speaks their own version of the language. its different but still intelligible, like a patois +--- 14902280 +>>14901844 (OP) +tounge and the welsh identity because unlike scots and irish they didnt chimp out every 25/50 years with indipendence ambitions. So It became a minority language spontaneously as more and more Welsh willingly switched to english for social elevation +--- 14902305 +>>14902276 +That's fascinating. About a decade ago, Chubut Province made Welsh an official language and there's a push to preserve it. I hope they keep their language. +--- 14902337 +>>14902305 +well argentina is in good hands because other than hebrew welsh is the example for a successful language revival. welsh has increased as a language in terms of numbers year on year for decades. in terms of percentage of the population not as much, but wales gets a lot of english pensioners and migrants which dilutes their numbers and explains that specific statistic. still, its promising stuff +--- 14902362 +Welsh are Germanic, not Celtic. Especially southern Wales/Welsh Lallands is Anglo +--- 14902632 +>>14901844 (OP) +Based Welsh +--- 14902696 +>>14902362 +Why'd you use the Scots word for lowlands? +--- 14902830 +>>14902696 +Because his cuck country is forced to revive a dead language (Scottish Gaelic) in attempts to grasp at identity, as opposed to just accepting Scots as the new Scottish norm. +--- 14902837 +I hate when languages get extinct +--- 14902848 +>>14902337 +Interesting stuff... appreciate the info. Cheers. +--- 14902879 +>>14901844 (OP) +Welsh is the only one of these languages which will survive and thats because people speak it for reasons which aren't just simple spite of the English +--- 14903324 +>>14902848 +dont mention it fren +--- 14903400 +https://youtu.be/h_sTCoUQ534 [Embed] +Thank SpongeBob. Srsly, the Welsh have done a good job of preserving trad culture while integrating modern media. +--- 14903511 +>>14901844 (OP) +Welsh were conquered fairly early and the Englsh gave them a hell of a lot more respect than they did to the Irish or Scots. The king who conquered the Welsh named his son to be "Prince of Wales" as a sign of respect. Also as the Welsh didn't constantly rebel like the Irish, they felt no need to constantly create laws to curb Welsh culture and langauge. +--- 14903587 +>>14903511 +The Welsh were never conquered, they were just ignored until their Royal Line unified the two nations and the Welsh never attempted a separation after the unification. +Wales was notoriously independent into the high middle ages with the Marcher Lords in a constant vigil against the Welsh tribes. + +Wales is a small country, very tiny, but there are more castles in Wales than in any other country, the reason being the Norman/Anglo-Normans could not go more than 2 miles without being stomped on by Welsh tribals wielding stone tipped spears and clubs. +The Welsh BVLLs were too strong to fully subdue and so the castles became necessary as the Welsh were never skilled at siegefare. +The Romans famously said in their dealings with the Silurae they were the only barbarians who defeat a Legion head on and also the only barbarians who would become demoralized by a chest high wall. +--- 14903604 +English is a native language of Scotland +If it isn't then the majority of England don't speak their native language either as they're all also using a descendent of the West Saxon dialect and not Northumbrian/Mercian etc +Ireland is basically just one city, Dublin... and that city has been English speaking for 800 years +--- 14903609 +>>14903587 +>The Welsh were never conquered, they were just ignored until their Royal Line unified the two nations and the Welsh never attempted a separation after the unification. +Holy cope. Edward I conquered the entirety of Wales. Including Gwynedd. After Llywelyn ap Gruffudd died there was no hope for the Welsh to resist. +Yes even with all the attacks on the Normans, the Welsh still lost in the end. There is a reason why the English CONQUEST of Wales is dubbed as a CONQUEST. +--- 14903613 +>>14902830 +He isn't from Scotland little autist +--- 14903648 +>>14903587 +celtlarper back at it again +please stop pretending you belong to an ancient people that never existed. stop saving pictures of rugby players to your computer +--- 14903717 +>>14903604 +Language isn’t ethnicity. +The Scottish are Celtic. +They speak English so they can insult the Mongrel dogs in the only intelligible the average Germanic understands, otherwise they’d have to get their hounds to translate humanspeak into base Germanic. +>>14903609 +Nope. He established the marcher lords before being cucked to death by Celts. +The Marcher lords existed because the English could not subdue the Welsh. +If the Welsh were subdued, they wouldn’t require a perpetual garrison of tens of thousands of men and hundreds of Castles. +Wales was more heavily guarded than England itself kek. +>conquest +It’s called a conquest because there is no other term for 1000 year military occupation. +But the Welshman = unconquerable. +Wales only ended the occupation with the Tudors, a Welsh dynasty that lorded over England and set the stage for the English Civil War. +A Welsh Celt has been on the throne of England more recently than any Anglo Saxon. +>>14903648 +Whoever it was living along the Atlantic coast who didn’t speak Germanic, does not cluster with Germanics, and whom Germanic men referred to as “foreigner” and “master”, that is who I am, the great spirit of the West who will push the Germanimals back into Asia. +--- 14903742 +>>14903717 +""""celts""" are genetically germanic +You are a pathetic homosexual LARPer +--- 14903965 +>19% +>dead set +I should add the 2021 census has the numbers down to 538,000 speaks (17.8% IIRC) +if you're asking why it relatively speaking is in better condition compared to Gaelic I would say it's because Wales from the 1500s on was remarkably free of unrest, especially on the scale that the Scots and Irish would have towards the English crown. In contrast to Scotland where episcopacy proved so controversial or the Irish loyalty to Rome, Anglicanism was the majority religion from its propagation into the mid 18th century, and by the time the nonconformist movement exploded in Wales in the mid 18th to 19th century it coincided with an increased willingness to tolerate nonconformism/catholicism. +Similarly there's no events spurring emigration a la the Great Famine/the Acts of Settlement and Plantations, the Highland Clearances, the retributions post Jacobite Risings etc. +Mass education and the prestige of English were devastating to Welsh just as they were to the others, but compared to the others it had a stronger foundation that has meant a slower decline. nonetheless for all the modern state support I expect it to slowly decline into irrelevancy beyond the diehards. +--- 14904060 +>>14903742 +Not guy but what am I? Ancestry is all Welsh but have basically black hair, very dark eyes, dark defined eyebrows/dark long eyelashes, small nose, etc. Get told a lot I could pass for Spanish or Italian. I'm what, a representative of some neolithic farmer phenotype? diff --git a/his/14901897.txt b/his/14901897.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8f40a951e66b1a112f664a3e876df4e4d4787b5d --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14901897.txt @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@ +----- +--- 14901897 +Ok let’s settle this one and for all. Was the American civil war about slavery? +--- 14901900 +>>14901897 (OP) +State's rights included right to slavery. If it wasn't slavery, there probably would've been some other issue in the far future similar to it. +--- 14902328 +>>14901897 (OP) +The South left the union because it felt it no longer had the representation at the national level to prevent slavery from being abolished. The primary legal question at the heart of the war was whether states have the right to unilaterally seceded from the union. If you answer yes, then even if you don't like why the South left, they were free to leave if they so chose too. If you answered no, then the federal government had every right in using force to preserve the Union. +--- 14902342 +>>14901897 (OP) +Americans are bloodlust sadists and they cover it with a superhero larp. They will always claim to fight to protect someone else. For the childrens. The blacks. The oppresed incubator curds. They think if they smear their opponent first then they can just kill them. +--- 14902672 +>>14901897 (OP) +Maybe +--- 14902686 +>>14902328 +*would not continue to have at some point in the future +They certainly had the legislative power before the war broke out, they just saw the writing on the wall and decided it was unacceptable. +--- 14902926 +>>14901897 (OP) +To summarize, yes. Particularly slavery in the western territories. This really isn’t even debated that much in academia anymore, because the evidence is pretty overwhelming. Of course you have your guys like dilorenzo who I unironically think writes what he does because he knows it’s an easy paycheck. And your libertarians who want to make everything about taxes, and your hair splitters who want to say that secession caused the war, not slavery. Which is like arguing the Titanic sunk because it had a hole in it, not because it hit an iceberg. + +>>14901900 +The South never gave a fuck about states until the shoe was on the other foot. It’s just some retarded shit confederate leaders said after the war to appear less like assholes to the rest of the world. +--- 14904147 +>>14901897 (OP) +yay +>>14902672 +nay +--- 14904207 +>>14901897 (OP) +No, it was about the JEW. +--- 14904329 +>>14901900 +The South had no issue shitting on the rights of the northern states with the Fugitive Slave Act. They didn't give a fuck about states' rights, what mattered to them was maintaining their power within Congress. diff --git a/his/14901913.txt b/his/14901913.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..07de5e895d180147188ea5296a1486e2eb8b2ab1 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14901913.txt @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +----- +--- 14901913 +>Anglo-Saxon Huscarl, Battle of Hastings, 1066 +--- 14901917 +>Mounted Knight, Siege of Jerusalem, 1244 +--- 14901923 +>English Longbowman, Battle of Agincourt, 1415 +--- 14901928 +>Yorkist Man-at-Arms, Battle of Bosworth Field, 1485 +--- 14901973 +Why the dice? +--- 14902538 +>>14901913 (OP) +Cool stuff +--- 14902562 +>>14901973 +To farm groschen in the taverns obviously. +--- 14903588 +>>14901973 +because being a soldier has always meant extreme boredom for 99% of the time, since the dawn of age +--- 14904015 +Very cool! +--- 14904027 +>>14901913 (OP) +>>14901917 +>>14901923 +Gambesons are kino, I wish more DnD inspired settings would incorporate them +--- 14904059 +Why is early medieval clothing for the Germanics so fucking neat? I love the tunic, trousers and legwrap+boot combo. Frankish hosen look so fucking homo. diff --git a/his/14901978.txt b/his/14901978.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b3846e53f2e90e833f410452e140fc8d7af35ee4 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14901978.txt @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +----- +--- 14901978 +>The HQ of Sedevacantism is some dozen-member Waco-tier cult in a trailer park. +OHNONO SEDEBROS I THOUGHT WE WERE A GLOBAL MOVEMENT +--- 14901998 +Brother Dimond would kick your ass in a debate. +--- 14902552 +>>14901978 (OP) +Dude +--- 14902575 +SOVL +this place has more of God's grace in it than a hundred post-Vatican II churches +--- 14902985 +>>14901978 (OP) +>seethe vacant tits +are they just tranny mannabe masons? +--- 14902997 +Brother Hard Ass Diamonds will kick your ass forever to Hell, Ortho and Baptist bros. +--- 14903703 +What do they eat? +--- 14903727 +It just makes me wonder why they don't affiliate with an actual practicing sede church, you know with priests and deacons and site built structures + +There's even sede convents and schools in the US +It makes you wonder if they're schizos among schizos +--- 14903732 +>>14902997 +>Ortho +Satan's pupil brother "hard as diamonds" will rape him to death before that happens, sedefag. +--- 14903860 +>>14903732 +weird homoerotic fantasy diff --git a/his/14902012.txt b/his/14902012.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e47ef8287d996251920a2b133e285be0f440ae4c --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902012.txt @@ -0,0 +1,43 @@ +----- +--- 14902012 +Was Ted a libertarian +--- 14902016 +No Ted's just a really typical far-right reactionary +--- 14902019 +>>14902016 +Okay but what does right mean here? +What does he have in common with fascism? +--- 14902023 +>>14902012 (OP) +No, cause libs usually approve of tech and industrialisation +--- 14902088 +>>14902019 +Far-right reactionary means that he triggers any retard who believes in a mechanized utopia. +The first post is a practical example of assmad progressive. +--- 14902153 +>>14902012 (OP) +>>14902088 +Pretty much every contemporary political ideology is talking about how post-industrial society should be structured, he argued that it shouldn't exist. I don't think you'll have much luck with normal political labels. He was a reactionary in technical sense that he wanted to reverse a change in society, but the people we generally use that term for aren't interested in reversing the industrial revolution +--- 14902249 +>>14902012 (OP) + +He was for in theory what Pol Pot put into practice. I.e. a revolutionary Luddite +--- 14902627 +>>14902012 (OP) +He was schizophrenic +--- 14903467 +>>14902019 +it means he was a schizo retard +--- 14903700 +>>14902019 +At this point in the degeneration of civilisation 'LE RITE WANG!!!!!!' just means 'a person I disagree with and want to ignore without considering anything they're thinking/saying/doing'. It's another thought terminating cliche. +--- 14903705 +>>14902012 (OP) + +No because the only way to implement his ideas would be with a very strong government telling people what to do. +--- 14903757 +>>14902019 +Did you read the first few pages? The first thing he put in the thing is a critique of leftist psychology and activist +--- 14903777 +also green politics and ecofascism would be some good things to read about +you need context for everything don’t be delusional diff --git a/his/14902015.txt b/his/14902015.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6d43fe4d6706d0cf5cec5a3d1bb0134c379bcf84 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902015.txt @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +----- +--- 14902015 +fat buu = mao +super buu = stalin +kid buu = pol pot +--- 14902028 +Goku = Hitler +Vegeta = Mussolini +Piccolo = Codreanu +Frieza = Stalin +Cell = Jews +Chiaotzu = OP +--- 14902059 +>>14902028 +What about Franco? +--- 14902181 +>>14902015 (OP) +Base Super Buu, Buutenks and Buuhan should be distinguished, as should Evil Buu. Babidi = German communist party? +--- 14902205 +>>14902028 +this makes sense +--- 14902611 +>>14902015 (OP) +Jewish +--- 14903499 +>>14902028 +makes a lot of sense, since cell is an amalgamation of most characters in dbz it cant represent a single person but instead a group +--- 14904198 +Stalin is misunderstood. He did a great job of defending the communist system, and he also provided many important theoretical contributions to the revolution. In my eyes, he is an idealistic revolutionary who never lost his devotion to Marxism. diff --git a/his/14902065.txt b/his/14902065.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ab11d7232a5644776cebac39bc1ff5c9c905fba7 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902065.txt @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +----- +--- 14902065 +Christians have an ideological interest in pushing the dates of New Testament documents back as far as possible. But new research shows they've been fudging the numbers. + +https://youtu.be/hoDAj7_1MbA [Embed] +--- 14902079 +>>14902065 (OP) +Based on what proof ? +--- 14902127 +>>14902065 (OP) +>Carrier +Hilarious it's him of all people accusing others of having an agenda +--- 14902570 +>>14902065 (OP) +Yes +--- 14902618 +>>14902065 (OP) +Not surprising. Heres a great video on the topic + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGHOp-9yAbA [Embed] +--- 14902955 +OP is a faggot +--- 14902957 +>>14902065 (OP) +Correct. +>>14902955 +And you're a retard. +--- 14902990 +I have reached Gnosis +--- 14903525 +>>14902065 (OP) +Anti-christians have lowered themselves to trusting literal jews to own le christians +--- 14903896 +>>14902065 (OP) +This is the guy that unironically claimed Jesus was gay. +--- 14903921 +>>14903525 +You don't have to "trust" anyone. Just look at paucity of evidence for a historical Jesus. There's jack shit. Just a dude who says he talked to a "brother of the lord" which could mean anything and a story about a magic Jew written half a century later that isn't even remotely believable. +--- 14904197 +>>14903921 +>deflect and continue attacking +Funny how you're such an antisemite when it suits you to attack THE cultural and moral pillar of europeans but then turn around and believe what a kike vermin says without a shadow of a doubt. diff --git a/his/14902121.txt b/his/14902121.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3c1338a8e1e613ba3ad9b5e3593977f5d8759ac7 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902121.txt @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +----- +--- 14902121 +What was the purpose of self disembowlment when they get their head cut off moments later? Why is it considered suicide if another person is acting as executioner? +--- 14902139 +>>14902121 (OP) +Because its voluntary, idiot. The other person is just helping them its like assisted suicide +--- 14902595 +>>14902121 (OP) +Japanese honor culture +--- 14903610 +>>14902121 (OP) +The beheader was supposed to be a trusted friend of the beheaded. They waited until the person appeared to be incapable of cutting further and then did the chop before they fell over or something. It made the whole thing feel cleaner. It was shameful to the person if you couldn’t get the decapitation right, so they’d really practice for it. + +The act of seppuku typically wasn’t truly voluntary but was a way for a samurai to show they accepted death by their own hands rather than having to be killed by someone else. If they refused, they’d be executed anyway but in a less honorable way. +--- 14904649 +https://youtu.be/HvRP3BIwexU [Embed] +--- 14904814 +>>14902121 (OP) +It's a mercy kill after the lethal blow has already been struck by the practioner through their resolve. diff --git a/his/14902200.txt b/his/14902200.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4b670cbd8a262eb45471347e47f744e68d7972d3 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902200.txt @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +----- +--- 14902200 +Why did Europe progress past the medieval era in terms of science and technology, while the rest of the world sort of just stagnated? +--- 14902518 +>>14902200 (OP) +colonizing the Americas I guess, that continent has everything oil, animals, plants, rivers and gold, it doesn't get any better +--- 14902526 +>>14902518 +Spain and portugal stagnated still +--- 14902541 +>>14902518 +>oil, +Not much more than lets say mena +>animals +Not more than south asia or africa. None domestic except llamas +>plants +There is some good crops and stuff in america true. +>rivers +Not particullary good or bad +>gold +This was relevant probably... but the parts of europe that more developed (england, france, germany) barely got any gold from Americas + +Plantations and cotton, vanilla, tobacco, other luxury stuff selling + potato and other crops may be the best exchange +--- 14902556 +>>14902526 +Spain and Portugal don't have the power to exploit, lie and rob a whole continent and a race of people. jews, Anglos and the French do that, and they benefited the most from it, that's why they were always superior to Russia and Germany +--- 14902590 +>>14902541 +Well dose mena have plants or animals? Or dose south Asia have oil? The Americas basically has everything even if they are only superior in the things you mentioned like tobacco, cotton, sugar and other crops. +--- 14902621 +>>14902590 +>Well dose mena have plants or animals +MENA is quite diverse climatically. Iran or the mesopotamian/levant area definitely do. +South asia as well, pakistan has a good deal of oil, biodiversity, rivers, etc. +Same with north india in general. +I think most of it traces to specific plantation systems of certain goods for trade rather than america being resourceful for settlers +--- 14902629 +>>14902200 (OP) +Europe is a heavily balkanized penninsula with easy access to the ocean and geography that allows states to form in relative isolation from eachother. This created a highly competitive enviornment ran by aristocrats who needed to defend their wealth. Only the ones with the most powerful militaries were able to defend it. The very concept of military intelligence arose from this enviornment. European powers like Britain realized having extensive knowledge of your enemies positions and infrastructure was key to winning wars. They then began commissioning agents to conduct research, gathering data and logging the local enviornments. This further developed into modern sciences and engineering. +--- 14902658 +>>14902556 +>Spain and Portugal don't have the power to exploit, lie and rob a whole continent and a race of people +lol, portugal traded the most slaves, had most plantation systems, had one of the last colonies in america to ban slavery, and exterminated natives fair and left +Spain genocided a entire race and groomed the other half, put 50% in forced labour camps called encomiendas and haciendas where people had a bizarre mortality rate. Extingished the 38 million population of the inca empire and exploited it to death like it did with tainos sending them to work like dogs non stop with barely any payment for subsistence into silver mines, erradicated the aztec empire and stole insane ammount of gold that made it back to the peninsula. +Raped, destroyed cultures, enslaved. The sole reason black slaves started arriving the Peru was that spain managed to decimate a 38M population so far they couldnt get more workforce for their mines, created oligarchic drug dealing feuds and broken states, everything with a colonial infrastructure meant to discriminate and create economic dependence to the extent modern natives still underrepresented in countries with 80% native populations in south america. +The whole religious indoctrination they started was because the pope gave them that condition after they exterminated tainos just to accumulate more political power and they needed to be fine because the pope granted lands. + +Not only spain is one of the most evil states to ever exist. They are also a fucking shame for anything. No scientists. No first world countries. No inventions +--- 14902864 +>>14902200 (OP) +The Renaissence. Coupled with exploring the world. It's not so much the stuff you get from overseas like spices or tobacco but the knowledge you get of geography, navigation, astronomy, geology, natural sciences, anatomy of niggers and mexicans, etc and the impact of assimilating that you are not alone in Europe and all these fascinating strange brown, black and yellow new worlds are yours to take. That's the good stuff. You learn. It was the equivalent of building a quantum supercomputer. Input spices, input maximize profit by time of travelling and cost of feeding negros. What? Does not compute?. Someone invent advanced mathemathics pls? Thanks Leibniz and Newton. Now, where were we? Input indios, maximize gold, times galleon, compute hurricane season, gib solution, it works!. + +Meanwhile everybody else was in the medieval age or in the stone age watching the same shit every single fucking day. Input banan, solution monke. They unlearn. +--- 14902873 +Europa got out of the barbarian middle ages thanks to Italians. Greco Latin civilization has always been there by de facto no matter what they tell you. +--- 14902874 +>>14902200 (OP) +Superior military tech due to prolonged warfare but also the invention of the printing press which kickstarted all the scientific movements that took place +--- 14902892 +>>14902200 (OP) +Western Europe didn't have to build their civilization around dealing with steppeniggers. +--- 14903208 +>>14902556 +The british were literally irrelevant until the 1700s and the french were on the defensive with ottoman support until then lol +--- 14903209 +>>14902892 +>huns +>avars +>magyars +Also southeast asia was the most shielded region from them +--- 14903244 +Constantinople collapsed, the west benefitted from the brain drain and exodus of intelligentsia from the eastern empire, and honestly Arabs have a lot to do with early chemistry while Rosicrucians were running around being goofy, but eventually they got their shit together +--- 14904239 +>>14903209 +>Huns, Avars +Pretty much ancient history to most of Western Europe by the time of the renaissance + +>Magyars +Eastern European power + +The SEAns had some great naval powers of their own, but they had the problem of not being in a prime position for colonization. +--- 14904418 +>>14902200 (OP) +Genetics, resulting in superior intelligence, and other personality traits. +Next thread please. +--- 14904429 +>>14902200 (OP) +You have to remember that the Muslim "golden era" was build on the backs of Christians whose lands they plundered, if the muslism didnt invade Europe we could be living on the moon right now. +--- 14904442 +>>14902200 (OP) +PURELY SOCIOECONOMIC REASONS! +--- 14904987 +Christianity diff --git a/his/14902230.txt b/his/14902230.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4f804e9e518a9c1056421ba46cbbb2b63eac2e48 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902230.txt @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +----- +--- 14902230 +Historically, wars were fought over skirts and trousers. Both were considered either manly or effeminate by opposing sides. +--- 14902615 +>>14902230 (OP) +What's dat nigga wearin +--- 14902788 +imagine the smell +--- 14902894 +>>14902230 (OP) +look hot +--- 14903006 +>>14902230 (OP) +what that nigga is wearing is a ceremonial version of what real chads used to wear. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbAKRffKsPs [Embed] +--- 14903658 +>>14902230 (OP) +That's exactly why the Greeks and Romans considered those who wore pants barbarians while the Germans and Celts themselves considered effeminate and that these are conquered/plundered from one or the other all this time from classical times to the late empire age Roman who had the superiority pants or skirts and knowing who was the winner of these there is no doubt that the pants belong to the society of the warriors of the gods / god and manhood in pure essence +--- 14904769 +>>14903658 +>gay revisionist /his/tory diff --git a/his/14902321.txt b/his/14902321.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..084a966c17ac4e71ea2b923d960842314d1b478d --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902321.txt @@ -0,0 +1,50 @@ +----- +--- 14902321 +Did the Kingdom of Kush master electricity? +--- 14902429 +>>14902321 (OP) +Why are Frenchmen like this? +--- 14902540 +>>14902429 +He's not French +--- 14902553 +>>14902540 +Algeria is an integral and indivisible part of the fourth French Republic. +--- 14902564 +People here don't know him but he's extremely popular in France and French speaking Africa +He'll convert millions of negroes to We Wuz Kangz revisionism +--- 14902576 +>>14902540 +Chud. +--- 14902587 +>>14902553 +That's not even an Algerian +It's explictly stated to be a nigger from the Congo +--- 14902677 +>>14902587 +The Congolese were pharaohs and shit +--- 14902754 +>>14902321 (OP) +ever heard of the baghdad battery? the tech would have been there long before the kush btw +--- 14902760 +>>14902321 (OP) +a /sci/ bro made this btw +https://odysee.com/@musicam-geometria-utebantur:6/pyramid-power-rap:4 +--- 14903158 +>>14902321 (OP) +American Negro culture and its consequences. +--- 14903221 +>>14902553 +that's a retarded meme invented to keep open a legal channel for nafris to get into France +--- 14903236 +black people have no concept of the truth independent of what they might like to believe, they just make shit up with 0 cognitive dissonance +--- 14903554 +>>14903236 +aren't severians known for their racism +I remember I like one of them got really mad at one ethiopian soldier existing +--- 14903781 +>>14902321 (OP) +why would scientists bother getting outraged over some random nigger? +--- 14904131 +>>14903781 +Because millions listen to him diff --git a/his/14902435.txt b/his/14902435.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..14f08c7d2bf7d9768b8717e401f65bd5e9fdd922 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902435.txt @@ -0,0 +1,200 @@ +----- +--- 14902435 +How do Atheists explain Our Lady of Guadalupe? +--- 14902771 +>>14902435 (OP) +Lady of Guadalupe is a divine image of the Virgin Mary, who appeared in 1531 at the base of an oak tree in the Mexican city of Guadalupe. Atheism does not explain Our Lady. This is a divine miracle. +--- 14902775 +Mass delusion? +Power of suggestion? +--- 14902913 +>>14902435 (OP) +Just another embarrassing example of catholic fraud. If the church weren't promoting these gypsy-tier scams, it would be much more respectable. +--- 14903036 +>>14902771 +>don't allow any experts to actually touch the painting and study the material, only let them take photos +>ATHEISTS CAN'T EXPLAIN IT +Wow, what an epic miracle. It's just a picture. +--- 14903072 +>>14902913 +explain how it is a fraud +--- 14903081 +>>14902435 (OP) +Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. +What is more likely the laws of nature were suspended for a virgin birth. Or that a Jewish slut would tell a lie? +--- 14903085 +>>14903072 +Because there is 0 empirical evidence for supernaturalism. It just gives people of low agency the illusion of control. +--- 14903101 +>>14903085 +there are also 0 empirical evidence it's not supernatural and the weirdnesses of it are not explained. Like the most of the image doesn't show the use of pigments, how it hasn't decayed over the centuries etc. +--- 14903104 +Why does the creator of existence insist on only revealing himself in the most impotent ways? +--- 14903110 +>>14902435 (OP) +you don't have to be an atheist to know that all of that is bullshit +--- 14903116 +>>14902435 (OP) +How do cuckolics explain the supernatural events of other religions? +--- 14903122 +>>14903104 +because He hates the arrogant and the powerful, and he reveals Himself to the poor and the sick. If you'd read the Bible you would know this. +--- 14903127 +>>14903122 +>because He hates the arrogant and the powerful, and he reveals Himself to the poor and the sick. If you'd read the Bible you would know this. +How convenient for you, more likely the illiterate and stupid. Just like the deluded bronze age inhabitants of Palestine. +The whole story is pathetic and contemptible, the idea that a human sacrifice of a guy who was supposed to be also god thousands of years ago absolves me of my sins is laughable and pathetic. Primitive Middle eastern scapegoating +--- 14903130 +>>14903122 +>a sodomite abomination kills the children of his faithful in cold blood on his own ground +>manifests his image on a tomato in Guatemala +>TRUST THE PLAN +--- 14903133 +>>14903122 +I dunno, the most common paternal haplogroups today are of some warrior steppe niggers who were taller and stronger than anyone around them. Seems like back then he supported the strong. +--- 14903135 +>>14902435 (OP) +>Whoa you mean people make up stories about shit that didn't happen? +Dude if that story came from a Hindu you would dismiss it. +--- 14903138 +>>14903101 +We literally know who painted it, retard. It's not even the only painting from that time that hasn't decayed substantially, and the shit about the pigments is fake news. +--- 14903150 +>>14903127 +>>14903130 +Seethe more future hell fuel +>>14903133 +? +>>14903138 +And who painted it, you refined genius? +--- 14903153 +>>14903150 +Marcos Cipac de Aquino +--- 14903187 +>>14903153 +Sounds like BS. + +>Marcos Cipac de Aquino (June 4, 1517-1572) would have been a Nahuatl Indian and a painter from New Spain in the early years of the conquest of Mexico. According to Fray Francisco de Bustamante in one of his sermons, he referred to the miraculous image of the Virgin painted by "Marcos the Indian" without mentioning his last name. The same name "Marcos Cipac de Aquino" is not recorded in any document or writing from the colonial period (1521-1821). Bernal Díaz del Castillo mentions a "Marcos de Aquino", the indigenous chronicler Juan Bautista mentions a "Marcos Cipac" in his historical annals. Bustamante says "Marcos", and only he associates that mysterious Indian with the image of Guadalupe. It has not even been proven that "Marcos de Aquino" and "Marcos Cipac" are the same, and it has not been proven that he or any of them was the Indian to whom Bustamante was referring. On the other hand, Bustamante's sermon mentioning "Marcos" was known only in 1888. Before that year no one ever mentioned "Marcos" in relation to the Virgin of Guadalupe. Therefore, it is possible that the Indian Marcos did not exist as such +--- 14903191 +>>14903153 +yeah thank you retard +--- 14903193 +>>14903187 +Sounds less like BS than the idea that a painting of Mary made in a contemporary style suddenly appeared in some colonial shithole as a miracle. +--- 14903195 +>>14903193 +I don't give a shit about this debate, I'm not the guy you were arguing with, just pointing out I just googled the stuff you mentioned and it's total bullshit. +--- 14903198 +>>14902435 (OP) +not an atheist but +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia?wprov=sfla1 +Also, it is fact that the current painting WAS painted on the original image so we dont exactly know what original image looked like before the colouring and retouches. +So, weak arguement. +--- 14903204 +>>14903150 +lol +--- 14903207 +>>14902435 (OP) +>>14902771 +Number of times Mary appeared in South America before the Catholic Church got there: 0 +--- 14903341 +>>14903207 why would the merciful Virgin Mary appear after some blood lusting demon-worshipping pagans? +--- 14903349 +>>14903341 +Same reason Jesus appears on toast, I guess. +--- 14903429 +>>14903085 +>There's 0 exclusively naturalistic evidence for a supernatural event! +--- 14903435 +>>14903429 +>it's a christians engage in 4D sophistry instead of presenting evidence for their god episode +--- 14903448 +>>14903429 +>there cannot be any evidence for my belief that is better than "it came to me in a dream" +>therefore "it came to me in a dream" is a totally legitimate argument +lmao +absolute state +--- 14903449 +>>14903435 +lol are you what, 14? +--- 14903453 +>>14902435 (OP) + +They'll say the whole thing was a hoax to get Mexican pagans to convert to Catholicism. +--- 14903460 +>>14903435 +>>14903448 +>Makes an absurd demand +>Doubles down when shown to be absurd + +Atheists are not to be taken seriously until they are at least going to be intellectually honest. +--- 14903480 +>>14903460 +>provide me with proof I can verify +>what an absurd demand! +--- 14903482 +>>14903460 +>make up an absurd belief that can only be justified by "it came to me in a dream" +>sperg out when people don't accept "it came to me in a dream" as valid evidence +lmao I love you schizoposters +never take your meds, you marvelous retard +--- 14903491 +>>14903449 +Isn't it dire that one of the greatest insults christians have is accusing their detractors of being immature as if children being able to see through their bullshit isn't a testament against their belief. +--- 14903531 +>>14903104 +Revealing himself to the wrong people could make things worse like how the Israelites started worshipping a pagan diety thinking it was their God before Moses told them to stop or how some Christians abuse certain verses to excuse their unChristian lifestyle. God reveals himself to people who can understand him. +--- 14903535 +>>14903531 +>God reveals himself to people who can understand him. +Like the 3rd world and rustbelt methheads who see his face in toast. GG +--- 14903546 +>>14903491 +you clearly have a Reddit tier knowledge of Christianity since "who are not like children can't enter the kingdom of heaven" and you keep embarrassing yourself demanding scientific proof of what by definition is outside of scientific inquiry (not measurable, not repeatable, etc.) +Science knowledge is a subset of knowledge that limits itself to investigate only what is materialistic and quantifiable, in order to pragmatically maximize its efficacy. +Apart from religion we live immersed in things that are not scientific: beauty, emotions, love, music, poetry, literature, psychology, and even mundane things like the design of your fucking iPhone or the plot of your shitty Netflix series. +Attacking religion saying "it's not scientific" it's like attacking science saying "it's not beautiful". +--- 14903551 +>>14903531 +here the US protestant heretic with political extremism in his heart +--- 14903553 +>>14903546 +Damn bro, still no evidence.... +--- 14903565 +>someone painted Mary on a piece of cloth and its suddenly a miracle +Lol +--- 14903575 +>>14903546 +The problem is Christianity's own perception of their god as personal, benevolent, and all loving with the well-being of humanity in mind which is completely contradictory when observing reality. +On the other hand, I can completely grasp the metaphysical, immaterial essence of say Wotan who expresses himself in artistic inspiration, passion, and reckless furry unconcerned with anything except the aesthetic of the act of self-sacrifice for a higher cause. Can you see why I would require evidence for the former and not the latter? +--- 14903623 +>>14903575 +>Wotan +straight into the garbage bin +>Can you see why I would require evidence for the former and not the latter? +Yes because you're such a spine chilling chud I will repel women for a month just to have talked to you +>reckless furry +Freudian slip I guess ahah +--- 14903631 +>>14903623 +4/10 +--- 14903639 +>>14902435 (OP) +with a computer, obviously. +--- 14903721 +>>14903341 +Why would an omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent god need people to travel around the world to spread his word +--- 14904420 +>>14903429 +There's no naturalistic or non-naturalistic evidence, just free association, hypothesis formation, and survival of said hypothesis in the market for production of statements laundered of falsehoods. + +Science is just systematic elimination of error, bias, fraud, wishful thinking, and deceit. All supernaturalism is an attempt to preserve an illusion of control from those with insufficient agency to produce control in the absence of it. Abrahamism is just an obvious case that preys on the particularly gullible, like all pseudoscientific doctrines do, through baiting into moral hazard by false promise of freedom from natural, physical, and evolutionary laws of the universe (freedom from responsibility). Same as communism, wokeism, postmodernism, race-denialism. No difference. Heaven/post-scarcity/equality, all the same thing. +--- 14904611 +>>14903721 +To give us the ultimate purpose. +--- 14904887 +>>14903081 +There's a lot of extraordinary evidence for the Tilma being authentic but even if you read all the studies you'd probably still dismiss it anyway. + +>>14903135 +Can you name one equivalent of the Tilma in Hinduism? diff --git a/his/14902510.txt b/his/14902510.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..49a087b725d4ddf2e169dca50808369ebbe88873 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902510.txt @@ -0,0 +1,118 @@ +----- +--- 14902510 +Why do chuds exaggerate how bad the Talmud is? It's really no worse than the Quran, Bible, Rig Veda, Book of Mormon or Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard +--- 14903353 +>>14902510 (OP) +Talmud says Jews marry 3 year olds. +--- 14903378 +It's just polemics mainly. + +The Talmud is not something you can really read through like the Bible or Quran. You actually need special training to really be able to read it let alone understand it which requires knowledge of Hebrew and Aramaic. + +It's a compendium of different opinions from thousands of rabbis on Jewish oral law i.e. how to apply the Torah in daily life. + +There are English translations available to read but that's such a far cry from the real Talmud. But the average Jew doesn't speak either Hebrew or Aramaic fluently so many do have the volumes of the Talmud in their native language. Vey few Jews ever read the entire thing. It takes seven years to complete it if you read just one page a day which is a practice many Hasidics do. +--- 14903386 +>>14902510 (OP) +--- 14903389 +>>14902510 (OP) +It's not even equivalent to any of those texts, it's just legal and theological discussion. It's more akin to if "the Church Fathers" and things like Aquinas and whatever were collected in a single comprehensive canon. Not like the Vedas, more like the Upanishads. +--- 14903393 +>>14902510 (OP) +Because a huge chunk of it is debates between rabbis and other thinkers where the different sides make their case and argue over it, so anti-semites can mine the text for quotes from the different arguements made and pass them off as what all Jewish people believe even if the person arguing that point lost the debate in the next passage. +--- 14903394 +>>14903386 +This is all based and Europeans should adopt these attitudes. +--- 14903405 +I normally wouldnt give a shit about their schizo supremacist cult except for the fact that these people are the ones who act like they some moral pillars calling anyone who opposes them "nazis" and "white supremacists." I imagine most people feel the same way. It isn't necessarily what is in it that Jews follow and believe, it is the fact that they hide these beliefs and put on a false front showing they are nefarious actors >>14903386. + +The white supremes (kkk, neo nazis or w/e) tell you what they want and why, same with the nation of Islam and black panthers. I dont give a fuck about supremacist groups, they are fine to believe in whatever they want and live how they want as long as they arent fucking with anyone else. The Jews dont do this however now do they? They want to stand on their soapbox calling you a pedo while ass raping a prepubescent boys using their global media monopoly +--- 14903410 +>>14903394 + +>>14903405 +--- 14903411 +>>14903405 +>schizo supremacist cult +Lol +--- 14903424 +An easy full digitalisation of the Talmud is available here https://www.sefaria.org/texts/Talmud to reference citations made by Stormchads. Many are genuinely real, but many are completely fabricated or just bizarrely rephrased, which is terrible practice and unnecessary. There are more than enough abhorrent statements and conclusions in the Talmud, there is no need to fabricate them. +--- 14903444 +>>14903411 +>we were chosen by Top G +>the rest of the people are basically cattle +>also you can only join by blood +>not schizo +>not supremacist +>not a cult +--- 14903492 +>>14903444 +American exceptionalist also think their nation was chosen by God. This line of thinking is not unprecedented in history. Human groups tend to do this. +--- 14903520 +A couple excerpts: + +>The possessions of Gentiles are limitless like a desert and any Jew who seizes it, acquires it +>It is the job of every Jew to deceive Gentiles +>Sexual relations with a child as young as 3 could be permissible in some cases +>If a Jew wishes to commit a crime, he should not do so in his home town, but a few towns over where he is not known +>If a Gentile strikes a Jew, he shall be put to death for it is the equivalent of striking YHWH himself +>Should a Jew strike a Gentile, however, no punishment shall be levied +>Death is the penalty for he who marries his daughter to an old man, arranges a marriage for his infant son, or teaches the Law to a Gentile +>It does not count as adultery should a Jew have relations with the spouse of a Gentile +>A Gentile who hires a Jew must pay him appropriately for services rendered, but a Jew does not have to pay a Gentile +>If one has relations with a child, and the child is 9 years of age or younger, it shall not count as fornication or sodomy +>Yeshua ben Joseph, the false prophet and messiah, is now boiling in a pot of excrement +>Gentile marriages are not real marriages +>If a Jew is in need of an organ transplant, it is ethical to forcibly seize a Gentile and harvest the necessary organ +>During Yom Kippur, a Gentile infant shall be abducted and its blood spilt in offering to YHWH +--- 14903527 +>>14903386 +I've tried to find so much of this stuff to no avail +--- 14903529 +>>14903424 +Aren't there lots of different versions +--- 14903532 +>>14903393 +Lol true. +--- 14903534 +>>14903520 +Where are you finding these quotes? I am struggling +--- 14903540 +>>14903529 +You can choose different translations in the sidebar. +--- 14903649 +>>14902517 → +The Talmud is not canon in the same sense that the Bible or Quran. Its a bunch of Rabbi's arguing over interpretations of the Torah. It would be like a collection of works of Church Fathers or the Hadiths. +--- 14903666 +>>14903649 +>The Talmud is not canon in the same sense that the Bible or Quran. Its a bunch of Rabbi's arguing over interpretations of the Torah. It would be like a collection of works of Church Fathers or the Hadiths. +this is complete bullshit. The Talmud is the central text is post Temple (Rabbinical) Judaism +--- 14903683 +>>14903666 +Indeed, Satan, it is, insofar that it stands as a interpretation of the Tanakh and the rules prescribed therein. This is why Jews study it more carefully, because by extension they are studying the Tanakh more carefully instead of just taking it on its own. Christians do this with the Bible too like with the Church Fathers and Councils except unlike Jews the Christians haven't formally compiled all these writings into a single standard work, the closest of which is the Ante-Nicene Fathers for the Christians. +--- 14903686 +>>14902510 (OP) +Because they’re the enemy of God, simple as +--- 14903702 +Jews expect special treatment in the media + +>haha christianity bad muzzies are terrorists +>NO ANTISEMITE FASCIST YOU CANT POINT OUT WE MARRY THREE YEAR OLDS AND RABBIS PUT THEIR MOUTHS ON BABY DICKS NOOO + +My antisemitism is a revolutionary act +--- 14903708 +>>14903492 +>whataboutism + +Not an argument +--- 14903745 +>>14903708 +--- 14903751 +>>14903394 +Christianity forbids it. +--- 14903762 +>>14902510 (OP) +STFU JOO +--- 14903769 +>>14903745 +Attributing the behaviour described there to communists is incorrect, not to defend them, but it is just how Russoids and Chinks are regardless of ideology. diff --git a/his/14902517.txt b/his/14902517.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a01f5d14ce78dbed17cbc54b2f3833376f05d969 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902517.txt @@ -0,0 +1,116 @@ +----- +--- 14902517 +Haplocels destroyed this board +--- 14902522 +>>14902517 (OP) +I'm E1b1b btw +--- 14902613 +>>14902517 (OP) +Unfortunately +--- 14902905 +>>14902517 (OP) +Yeah, bunch of autistic rape coomers. +--- 14902912 +>>14902905 +Yeah that's worse than a regular coomer +--- 14902917 +>>14902517 (OP) +If you're wondering, xis is the faggot whos responsible for 90% of the haploshit and race bait threads +--- 14903784 +>>14902517 (OP) +are you implying the hordes of "fanatical" christcucks (who are themselves have incredibly heretical beliefs) didn't have a part in it +--- 14903797 +>>14903784 +Dilate +--- 14903811 +>>14902517 (OP) +Haplogroups are part of the future of the discipline as part of genetic studies of human remains generally. Written 'records' as little as 50 years ago are all made up and archaeology is even more fake somehow. Archaeogenetics are the only reliable window to the past so far. +--- 14903919 +>>14902522 +You're E-V13 which isn't really considered part of the E1b1b family by other E1b1b carriers since you lack the Natufian genes that actually make you think, act and behave like a proper E1b1b man. +--- 14903935 +>>14903919 +You're a nafri +--- 14903978 +>>14903784 +Them too. +>>14903811 +That's true, but I guess you should separate archeogenetics (both haplo and admixture) from pure haploautism. +--- 14904049 +>>14902517 (OP) +I don't care. I love larping as a WHG who survived the bellbeaker invasion. +--- 14904053 +>>14903935 +You're white. +--- 14904064 +>>14903919 +How did you know I'm E-V13 +--- 14904069 +>>14904049 +You were enslaved by us after your WHG tribe was exterminated. +--- 14904158 +>>14904069 +>enslaved +Source? The remaining whg were simply too Chad to exterminate and blended in with the new steppe rapebabies. +--- 14904337 +>>14904064 +There are a lot of people like you lol. + +You claim to dislike haplogroups yet you brought a DNA test to know your haplogroup so it is clear that you were interested in Y-DNA until it turned out you carried an "exotic" haplogroup. + +Now E1b1b is only found among Afroasiatic populations and some southern European populations that have been raped by them, since E1b1b is the founding haplogroup among AA speakers and therefore a pretigious haplogroups among them, it wouldn't make sense for a Somali, a Berber, an Arab to behave like you do, however, it would make sense for you to be a Souhtron overdosing on copium. +--- 14904346 +>>14904158 +I2a is a tiny fraction of haplos since Yamnaya warriors exterminated them and is always a WHG slave caste since they were enslaved by steppe warriors +--- 14904369 +>>14902517 (OP) +There are some upsides .. like finding out Muslim males have weaker bones than black women lmao +--- 14904411 +>E1b1b +>E-V13 +>Natufian +>Nafri +>WHG +>Rapebabies +>Southron +>Bellbeaker +>Y-DNA +>AA +>I2A +>Yamnaya +>Steppe +Why are they like this? +--- 14904425 +>>14904411 +Zodiac signs for incels. Your haplogroup accounts for less than 1% of your ancestry. +--- 14904519 +>>14904411 +>be southron +>pay $500 for a BigY +>*E-V13* +>"h-haplogroups are irrelevant, t-they're less one percent of your DNA" +>"y-you can be brown and european" +EVERY FUCKING TIME +--- 14904531 +>>14904519 +Cope incel scum. I don't know my haplogroup because I don't give a fuck. +I'm a Leo btw, that's way cooler. +--- 14904537 +>>14904519 +I want to punch varg in the face +--- 14904544 +>>14902517 (OP) +There aren't nearly as many haplogroup threads as there are christians posting pictures of a comedian (I think) burning in feces. +--- 14904706 +>>14904337 +>it would make sense for you to be a Souhtron overdosing on copium. +I'm sitting on the 42nd parallel North m'boy, I'm not a SOUTHERNER +--- 14904711 +>>14902517 (OP) +Which haplo? R1a (me) are the CHADs of history, not "cels". +--- 14904712 +>>14904411 +>NO FUN ALLOWED! +--- 14904749 +>>14904519 +why would a southern european be ashamed to be e-v13, it's much more indigenous than a lot of the J2a, J1 and even some G2 clades diff --git a/his/14902555.txt b/his/14902555.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d43d31aa408c1680e4928f7d094ccc54567edccb --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902555.txt @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ +----- +--- 14902555 +historically speaking were Russians the only people dumb enough to create an empire whose periphery was more developed than its core? +--- 14903218 +>>14902555 (OP) +I think Brazil was more developed than Portugal by the time it became independent. +--- 14903640 +>>14902555 (OP) + +Russian Empire was like South Africa today. where less intelligent majority rules over more intelligent minority +--- 14903650 +>>14903218 +Brazil is also a good example of periphery development. The coastline is where 90% of people live, there used to be fucking nothing westwards +--- 14903908 +>>14903218 +It wasn't. Even the wealthiest regions (Rio de Janeiro, the Recôncavo, Maranhão) were still underdeveloped compared to Portugal. +--- 14903926 +>>14902555 (OP) +The real core was Sankt-Petersburg and the Baltics, so not really. A significant part of Russian elites were Baltic Germans +--- 14904873 +>>14902555 (OP) +>create an empire whose periphery was more developed than its core? +That's just what happens whenever a barbarian horde subjugates a civilized region. Typically these arrangements are not very long lived, as was the case here too. +--- 14904908 +The periphery was the coast where trade was best. Before things like railways arrived Saint Petersburg was clearly the prime city. +--- 14904914 +What do the runes say? diff --git a/his/14902606.txt b/his/14902606.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0ebdcb0eae08c8a3ea67cb3302bf57e54b024418 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902606.txt @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +----- +--- 14902606 +Is he the savior we don't deserve? +--- 14903398 +>>>/pol/ +--- 14903406 +yea, "savior" +--- 14903523 +>>14902606 (OP) +Russia was never the successor of Rome and never will be +--- 14903582 +>>14902606 (OP) +He islamize Russia. Do you ever been in Moscow? I live here and see a lot of Muslims everyday. Just check youtube videos of Russian metro, a lot of Muslim people here. + +Alse he thinks that Islam is more closer to Orthodoxy than Catholicism +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVRot6pl66k [Embed] + +Maybe for people who live in America all that stuff seems kind of 'based' but that's fake basedness. + +It's scary that almost every Western person who likes Russia usually likes the Putin. Can you be pro-Russian without this idiotic stuff? Putin is Russian Obama. +--- 14903821 +>>14903523 +Russia is the Third Rome and always has been +--- 14903825 +>>14902606 (OP) +He's the perfect orthodog. Sympathizes with muslims and protects jews. diff --git a/his/14902607.txt b/his/14902607.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..811def11c2882f799dda8ad719d9750ded5dda46 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902607.txt @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +----- +--- 14902607 +Did Indians really invent everything? +--- 14902789 +Hiring Poos is a geopolitical move. +So far the modicum of contenders to USA are : +-Islamic countries, which are not a commercial power, and not a military power +-China, which is commercial power, but not a military power (the US are not a military power, just like any commercial society (the whole humanist propaganda is that military conflicts will never be serious because of deep commercial ties between countries run by oligarchs)) +-India which is not a commercial power, nor a military power. The US leftists like Bill Clinton in the 90s turned china as their new cheap commercial partner, it was all rose tinted worldview, but then by the time of the leftist Obama and even more so with TRUMP, they realized the Chinese spied on them (and by the way China made the oil price rise a lot which created the recession in 2008 (coupled with the leftist view that mortgages should be cheap so backed up by bureaucrats ie housing credits are now riskfree credits, ie bankers sell that like candy lol and get fat fees as the middleman)), so the big idea by the merchants is now to replace china with india, ie getting the indian bureaucrats to by the enormous US debt and in exchange US merchants put a few Poos in top CEO positions and recruit lots of poos working over internet from their shithole. Bonus points is that the US can leverage the deep historical conflict between India and China, in order to fuck with China a bit more. Of course it can back fire, and US oligarchs fuck up all the time, especially on international affairs. US diplomats are really mediocre. +--- 14902794 +>>14902789 +>-China, which is commercial power, but not a military power (the US are not a military power, just like any commercial society (the whole humanist propaganda is that military conflicts will never be serious because of deep commercial ties between countries run by oligarchs)) +Its hard to judge Chinas or Americas military right now because neither are in wartime. Kind of like how Russians were convinced they had the 3rd greatest army on Earth before being vibe checked by some Ukrainain farmers. +--- 14902800 +>>14902789 +Interesting post I wish to subscribe to your blog +--- 14902803 +>>14902607 (OP) +Indians are the perfect slave race, a combination of servile, stupid and weak manlets that will never rise up against their masters. They love sucking up to jews +--- 14902820 +>>14902803 +this +--- 14903854 +>>14902789 +India can't replace China. Their whole economy is actually dependent on China moreso than the US. Giving India more money just means giving them more money to pay China. +--- 14903861 +>>14902607 (OP) +They invented nothing. Ancient India was ruled by a white Aryan caste. +--- 14903894 +>>14902794 +china hasnt been in a war since they invaded vietnam, in which they got stomped, there is no telling if chinese tactics, officer quality, and equipment is up to snuff for an actual war, and the only concrete assumption id make is they would use the quantity over quality strategy. I would say its safe to assume they have the same issue practically every authoritarian government has, their officers are selected on blind loyalty than anything else. +The US on the other hand I would consider being ready for the task of a conventional war ten years ago, now it feels like every part of the US military is degrading in some way at every level. As for getting their asses kicked in Afghanistan, the US has historically always had issues fighting irregular wars. diff --git a/his/14902630.txt b/his/14902630.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0d3b51fc529f92eb0243a4295561701be7b35e4f --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902630.txt @@ -0,0 +1,14 @@ +----- +--- 14902630 +I miss her, bros +--- 14902735 +>>14902630 (OP) +>her +Him. Novgorod - male grammatical gender. "Lord Novgorod the Great" +--- 14902780 +Norvogord still exists. +--- 14904043 +>>14902630 (OP) + +They had wooden paved streets. +Fucking IRL Rivendell, ruined by Muscowites diff --git a/his/14902703.txt b/his/14902703.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..edbd23d909c855ed13fd42dd629460c46364ddb8 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902703.txt @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +----- +--- 14902703 +Whats their endgame +--- 14902706 +>>14902703 (OP) +Never shutting the fuck up and vicariously living through genetic's samples in the neolithic. +--- 14902721 +>>14902703 (OP) +Pushing darktroon into her reservation again and hijras' butchering. +--- 14902729 +facing one another in trenches near Bakhmut +--- 14902739 +>>14902703 (OP) +The gay alien with glasses is so ugly and creepy it’s unsettling, he’s also known as Mordovix +--- 14902742 +>>14902721 +Based +--- 14903249 +get AIDS and die +--- 14903417 +bully half sentient trannies +--- 14903433 +>>14902703 (OP) +Yo never have sex. +--- 14903637 +>>14902703 (OP) +Ugly fucks +--- 14903735 +>>14902729 +toplel diff --git a/his/14902734.txt b/his/14902734.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..34deb90a557c9743b283fe3d4d4e763acb7a4b58 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902734.txt @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +----- +--- 14902734 +Why haven't you converted to Orthdoxy yet? +--- 14902741 +i am not insane retard fillowing cringe fads +--- 14902749 +because god is an asshole and deserves our contempt, not worship +--- 14902755 +>>14902734 (OP) +I don't believe in invisible magic sky jews like a fucking idiot. +--- 14902757 +Because I'm not an easterner. +--- 14902769 +>>14902734 (OP) +I'm already მართლმადიდებელი though +--- 14902810 +>>14902757 +Phyletism +--- 14902815 +what are some good orthodox sources then? I'm an interested catholic anon +--- 14902823 +>>14902815 +I learned about Orthodoxy through YouTube. Maybe start with spiritual talks by Father Spyridon +https://youtube.com/@FatherSpyridonROCOR +--- 14902835 +Because it's heresy. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d07mgLoOW8g [Embed] + +The final redpill is Barlaam of Seminara converting to Catholicism because of the Palamite heresy spreading and pushing the killing blow to Orthodoxy. +--- 14902863 +>>14902734 (OP) +I did last Lazarus Saturday +--- 14902882 +>>14902734 (OP) +>Posts picture of a Byzantine flag and dagger in his icon corner. +Cringey LARPers like you give the rest of us a bad name. I hate telling people I’m a convert because they automatically assume I do things like this. +--- 14902885 +Because I think they are praying to saints and commot idoltary. +Also I dont like the "trad based" larpers here. +--- 14902902 +>>14902734 (OP) +Why would you have a statue of a failure and the flag of a failed state on your altar for supposedly worshipping God. +--- 14902976 +>>14902734 (OP) +baptized orthodox in an orthodox country and i don't get this trend at all. the orthodox church doesn't care about proselytizing, if you believe the jew got resurrected and aren't an asshole you get into heaven regardless of which church you belong to. universalism is also prevalent, so again no reason to convert. +--- 14903203 +https://www.orthodoxmanchester.org.uk/welcome.htm + +This seems to be a cool Orthodox Church from around where I used to live +--- 14903307 +>>14902734 (OP) +I converted and on day 3 of going to church I got some orthodussy. Life is good +--- 14903323 +>>14902734 (OP) +Nice funko pop collection +--- 14903354 +>>14902835 +>Sede +>Calling anyone a heretic + +Come on now +--- 14903800 +>>14902734 (OP) +Because I'm Catholic. +--- 14903857 +>>14902741 +atheism is a cringe fad +--- 14903902 +>>14902734 (OP) +>Christcuckery dressed up in Slavic mysticism + +It’s still christcuckery +--- 14903923 +>>14902734 (OP) +Do not use the statues. +--- 14904316 +Because for me, Russian orthodoxy was built of the idea of third Rome, Russia over Europe and dealing a decisive blow to nato and the w*st. Now, none of that is going to happen and I'm already exploring Islam/Confucianism. +--- 14904321 +>>14902734 (OP) +Because Orthodoxy is retarded. diff --git a/his/14902736.txt b/his/14902736.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ca1f20fddbfbb5dcdc4c51c379de1af85f01114a --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902736.txt @@ -0,0 +1,41 @@ +----- +--- 14902736 +Adolf Hitler had good intentions. He had a desire to establish a new order. His vision for the future is a little bit extreme, but a world of pure blood and strong men... is not necessarily a bad thing. +--- 14902770 +>>14902736 (OP) +Wiping my butt rn. Also kinda gay you think about men so much +--- 14902772 +>>14902736 (OP) +but a world of pure blood and strong men +If they were really pure and strong they would have won. +--- 14902777 +>>14902736 (OP) +A demonstration that good intentions don't outcome in good actions +--- 14902784 +>>14902772 +>mosquitos can give you malaria therefore mosquitos are stronger than you +--- 14902832 +>>14902784 +They will probably survive global warming +--- 14903350 +>>14902736 (OP) +The bad guys won World War Jew +--- 14903934 +what a petty and gay thing to do. its a good thing the good guys won right? +--- 14903947 +>>14902736 (OP) +Yeah Hitlers only fault was his ambitions slightly outpaced his methodology. + +He was a good man at the end of the day. +--- 14903960 +>>14903350 +Might makes right, Jews are the good guys. +--- 14903972 +>>14902736 (OP) +I could kill you with the best of intentions, and unlike Hitler, I'd actually be improving the world. +--- 14903992 +>>14903960 +No Jews are evil and should be wiped out + +>>14903972 +Wrong that’d be evil diff --git a/his/14902745.txt b/his/14902745.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8d9c0074eb405a99af8cc2ffe5d7b274d13301b8 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902745.txt @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +----- +--- 14902745 +If anyone else does it such as Indonesians or English people or Bosnians or Turks etc they are Cucking to Arab supremacy but when Pakis do it nobody cares. There are Paki politicians and public speakers wearing Shemagh and Arab robes and it's just seen as their culture too and nobody cares. + +Why is Arab culture and Paki culture seen as the same thing when Pakistan is basically India and far from Arabia? +--- 14902759 +>>14902745 (OP) +Being obsessed with being traditional for the sake of being traditional with no practical reason is nonsense anyway outside of religion. If the culture evolves and it does what it’s supposed to do for the community it’s good. Only reason you should be fundamentalist with religion is because it is practical. And if you looked it into it anyways I bet you would notice most cultures are partly taken from others anyway. But if your right about Pakistan your right it’s a bit more extreme to be fair +--- 14902843 +>>14902745 (OP) +because they're pajets. +they're beyond redemption. +--- 14903070 +>>14902745 (OP) +Because Pakistan is an artificial state with no actual culture. They are apostates from Indian civilisation and culture via their conversion to Islam, thus they simply copy other Muslims and have not existed for long enough to have anything of their own yet. +--- 14903095 +>>14902745 (OP) +If you see shit outside of toilet, you'll wonder what happened +But if you see shit inside toilet, you just flush and don't ask question because that's a normal thing +--- 14903132 +>>14903095 +lol +--- 14903183 +Pakistan is failing for the same reason Afghanistan is failing + +You can’t build a country on religious bullshit as the only unifying factor +--- 14903196 +>>14902745 (OP) +Because they look like brown arabs +>>14903183 +>Bomb country for 20 years, spread drug abuse and homosexuality among its people +>Sanction the already poor country, starving its population +>Islam destroyed Afghanistan, btw +--- 14903201 +>>14902745 (OP) +Because they are both the same shade of brown and if you put an Arab and a Paki next to each other you can't tell which is which. +But if you put a SEA monkey next to them it's going to stand out. +--- 14903229 +>>14903201 +>SEA Monkey +SEAs are some of the least hairy humans on the planet, actually +--- 14903238 +>>14903229 +for comparison: the average greek(turk) +--- 14903253 +>>14903196 +Afghanistan has been a shithole since forever + +They refuse to develop +--- 14903271 +>>14903253 +>They refuse to develop +Translation: They refuse to whore out their daughters and castrate their sons, so we need to bomb them some more +--- 14903277 +>>14903253 +It's funny if you look at fertility rates in these "developed" countries and then Afghanistan you will soon realize how retarded you are and how this "development" is actually ethnic suicide. +--- 14903589 +>>14902745 (OP) +pakis have been under ummayad caliphate +--- 14903591 +>>14903271 +>whore out +their women are whores everywhere they go tho +--- 14903599 +>>14902745 (OP) +People definitely make fun of Pakistanis for LARPing as Arabs/Persians/Turks. +--- 14904449 +>>14902745 (OP) +Pakistanis are the ultimate Araboos +--- 14904521 +I for one support Afghanistan's war against Pakistan +Serves them right for trying to fuck with them for decades +--- 14904534 +>>14902745 (OP) +This is the hilarious thing about the whole Uyghur shit. +China is specifcally cracking down in the region on imports from the Gulf States, which signals the person is a Wahabi. When Western media cries about the China "Burqa ban" (that doesn't even exist, just using out of context clips from variety shows), you know Western Media doesn't even know what Uyghurs look like. +--- 14904542 +>>14903201 +most arabs are lighter +--- 14904545 +>>14902745 (OP) +phenotype. they are both brown caucasoids. +--- 14904549 +>>14902745 (OP) +Because they often look like Saudis. +Indonesians and English people don't. diff --git a/his/14902747.txt b/his/14902747.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d46a38c1be20acd095493e887dfeb63f4fd93168 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902747.txt @@ -0,0 +1,53 @@ +----- +--- 14902747 +Why didn't Prussia take advantage of the Hungarian revolution and attack Austria? Were they stupid? +--- 14902825 +19th Century Geopolitics worked like this. European Powers would check with the other Great Powers and negotiate with them to get approval for a certain action. For example Russia tried to take over the Ottoman Empire and just march down to free all of the Balkans and the Middle Eastern Christians. The Anglo FREAKED out, because that would create a huge imbalance and Chaos. So they tell them "okay, we approve of you getting this, this and that, but nothing more than that" basically. So you would win at least something in the war, but you would lose massively and start a war against the other Great Powers, if you wanted to push for more than that. + +If Prussia would have shown any ambition to create a Großgermanium, than I am pretty sure every other power would have intervened to stop them. The only reason Prussia managed to unite Germany in our timeline so smoothly was the gigabrain-tier diplomatic strategy of Bismarck. Bismarck also threatened to jump out of a window, if Wilhelm tried to annex Austria from the Habsburg Empire. +--- 14902931 +>>14902825 +>Bismarck also threatened to jump out of a window, if Wilhelm tried to annex Austria from the Habsburg Empire. +Source? First time I've heard this. +--- 14902938 +>>14902931 +>source source source? +shut up, take it or leave it +--- 14902947 +>>14902938 +As a Großgermanium enthusiast this is very important information to me. Don't make big claims if you can't back them up. +--- 14903147 +>>14902947 +get out of my thread +--- 14903508 +>>14902931 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Prague_(1866) +>At first, Wilhelm I had wanted to push on to Vienna and annex Austria but Bismarck stopped him and even threatened to resign and more drastically to hurl himself out of the fourth-story window of Nikolsburg Castle. +>Taylor, A.J.P. (1988). Bismarck: The Man and the Statesman. Hamish Hamilton. pp. 87–88. ISBN 0-241-11565-5. +--- 14903519 +>>14902747 (OP) +Gee I wonder what happened in 1848 in the Kingdom of Prussia that bound their forces as well as their attention. +--- 14904104 +>>14902747 (OP) +Why did Russia invade Hungary to put down the revolution, were they stupid? + +We are talking about people who refused annexing the entirety of Germany for literally free because they didn't want to pick up a crown from the gutter. They obviously valued their own internal unchecked power over having to share power in more powerful states. The only person who was willing to make that deal was the King of Sardinia who made some vague promises that he'd be a constitutional monarch of a united Italy, +--- 14904167 +>>14903519 +Now that you remind me Prussia did go to war with Denmark over Schleswig-Holstein and lost somehow. +--- 14904445 +>>14904167 +The First Schleswig War was a coalition effort containing a few of the northern states (among them Prussia) of the German Confederation against the Kingdom of Denmark over the duchies of Schleswig and Holstein. Militarily speaking the german states achieved many victories of ther danes on land but were unable to achieve a greater breakthrough and the german states were never able to seriously challange Denmark on the sea. +Due to international pressure from the UK, France and Russia the German Confederation ceased to support the rebels of Schleswig and Holstein, who were in turn unable to resist Denmark. +--- 14904461 +>>14904445 +This reads like ChatGPT but the capitalisation isn't right. Your typing style needs work. +--- 14904476 +>>14904461 +Juqqt +--- 14904606 +>>14902747 (OP) +Austria's dissolution would've empowered Russia, wasn't worth it. +--- 14904662 +>>14904606 +Why did Russia invade Hungary to reform Austria then? diff --git a/his/14902782.txt b/his/14902782.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fe6d06b0617c45771c40089de4c2f53ad7da80fa --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902782.txt @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ +----- +--- 14902782 +Will the future see a revival of the religious impulse, as a source of meaning and purpose in the individual life? Will the secular impulse of the Enlightenment gradually recede into the past, and be replaced by a post-modern view of human life as a mere game of chance, in which the individual feels that nothing matters except what the individual chooses for itself? Or will the secular impulse prove to be the new religion, in which human beings will believe because they have made that decision themselves, without any need of God to tell them that what they believe is good and true? +--- 14902802 +>>14902782 (OP) +>Or will the secular impulse prove to be the new religion, in which human beings will believe because they have made that decision themselves, without any need of God to tell them that what they believe is good and true? +This will continue to prevail wherever people have developed regions where they are safe to learn about the world in good schools. However there will always be dumber people and there will always be more unstable parts of the world where learning is incomplete, badly planned and interrupted. +It already looks like the Covid interruption in schooling is taking a toll on zoomer science education. +--- 14902841 +>Will the future see a revival of the religious impulse, as a source of meaning and purpose in the individual life? +We are already living this future. Christcucks have won. Westerners regard a secular version of christcuck morality not just as A morality, not just as THEIR morality, but morality itself. They can't even conceive of another morality. They think it's just common sense. +>avoiding suffering +>being nice +are the only moral virtues in this world. Christcucks have won an ultimate victory. +--- 14902857 +>>14902841 +Jesus approves of threesomes now? Nice +--- 14903428 +>>14902782 (OP) +Christianity and Islam will grow... Christianity will be revived in the west, billions will be born, and we will all be happy +--- 14903886 +>>14902782 (OP) +Blacks, Arabs, and Pakis will replace Whites and other white-admixed populations such as latinos. I don't see a future for white ideologies such as liberalism/atheism, catholicism, and protestantism, they will likely dies alongside the white race. + +The new form of Christianity that will arise from the West will be judaizing like BHI. +--- 14904310 +yes but it will be a dark age for religious people first. the so called age of aquarius. first they will automate the mind, then the body, then they will realize they cant automate the soul. Then religion will come back diff --git a/his/14902801.txt b/his/14902801.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a0fd075a05b4f7c356a0c0c62d192eda2a1bbacc --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902801.txt @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +----- +--- 14902801 +Is it true that Ethiopians and Horn Africans in general are of Semitic origin? +--- 14903571 +>>14902801 (OP) +About half of Ethiopians are Ethiosemites, also called Abyssinians. These people are descendants of Semites who migrated to the Horn and mixed with the locals but kept their Semitic languages. (Note that some scholars claim that the Semitic languages originated in the Horn and then spread into Arabia, but I highly doubt that claim). As for the rest of the Horners, they're primarily Cushites, people who speak languages that are distantly related to the Semitic family. By far the largest Cushitic languages are Oromo and Somali. And then there are minorities in the Horn who speak languages from other families, such as Omotic and Nilo-Saharan (that last one may not be a real family, however). +--- 14903756 +>>14903571 +I'm more interested in ethnicity rather than language, but thank you regardless. +--- 14903775 +>>14902801 (OP) +no, horners are nilotes bleached by natufian-like people many thousands of years ago +--- 14903863 +>>14903756 +Genetically they're a mix of Muddle Eastern (Semitic/Afroasiatic) and Subsaharan. That's why they have dark skin but Caucasoid features. +--- 14903867 +>>14903863 +*Middle Eastern +--- 14904056 +>>14903863 +>Muddle Eastern +BAHAHAHAHA +YOU JUST INADVERTENTLY INVENTED A SLUR +--- 14904118 +>>14902801 (OP) +the horner race is the product of ancient black race men mating with ancient white women from arabia +--- 14904141 +my race + +proud Med diff --git a/his/14902827.txt b/his/14902827.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..20b157264aecdc3617b5c31c0c2c6c461c0f5914 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902827.txt @@ -0,0 +1,41 @@ +----- +--- 14902827 +The assassination of Caesar was justified. He had gone too far with his dictatorship and it was a valid attempt to protect Rome's democracy and ideals of liberty. +--- 14903194 +>>14902827 (OP) +but what was the plan after his death? do you really expect the system would correct itself when there's legions loyal to caesar right at rome's doorstep? +It seems to me that the notion of "protecting democracy of the republic" was just a facade to mask their personal and selfish grudge against the caesarian regime. +--- 14903296 +>>14902827 (OP) +>He had gone too far with his dictatorship and it was a valid attempt to protect Rome's democracy and ideals of liberty +>>>>>>>Roman liberty during the late Republic +This is (you) on Optimates/Boni aristocrat propaganda +--- 14903596 +>>14902827 (OP) +>simp for Pompey Magnus even as he flagrantly flaunts the law and does all the things Caesar does but it's cool because he's conservative +>rig the courts and cook up bullshit charges for Caesar because he refuses to slurp conservative semen even though nothing he does is any different from what conservatives did in the 3rd Punic War +>Caesar does what Lucius Sulla did and marches on Rome but it's totally not cool because he's not conservative +>defeats the conservatives despite being the clear underdog +>enacts wildly popular reforms that remind Romans what an actually functioning government looks like +>Does not consolidate power, does not purge political rivals, begins making preparations to invade Parthia +>Assassinate Caesar and tell the masses that it was totally cool for conservatives to commit extralegal murders. See also: the Cataline Conspiracy +>Don't actually have a plan for what to do afterwards, act surprised when people lose faith in the Republic and ally with the Caesarists to run the conservatives out of town and hunt them down like mad dogs +The Republic was a bloated hypocritical failed-state that deserved to die +--- 14903601 +>>14903596 +>>simp for Pompey Magnus even as he flagrantly flaunts the law and does all the things Caesar does but it's cool because he's conservative +Bros, I thought America wasn't Rome? The parallels aren't supposed to be valid? +--- 14903603 +>>14903601 +history doesn't repeat, it rhymes +--- 14903645 +>>14903596 +Thanks for clearing up on the HUGE fuck-ups of the late republic and the hypocrisy of un-Roman aristocrat faggots +--- 14903749 +>Rome's democracy and ideals of liberty. +stopped reading right there +--- 14903840 +>>14902827 (OP) +What a cope. + +Verification not required. diff --git a/his/14902896.txt b/his/14902896.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b7583aa393f3f01b0eb91bfaf9cdc881b346b4cc --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902896.txt @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +----- +--- 14902896 +In a capitalist society, all gains require you to step on others. Who set up the system in this way and why? +--- 14902900 +>>14902896 (OP) +The Dutch Republic +--- 14902933 +>>14902896 (OP) +4chan is a capitalist website, who is stepping on you right now? +--- 14903220 +Animals are capitalistic? Good to confirm commies are lower than them. +--- 14903227 +>>14902896 (OP) +capitalism bad, no kebab turkiyem 1 gazillion christian armeno-assyrian death +--- 14903322 +I like to stomp people, I just don't like it whem I'm being stomped, simple +--- 14903691 +>>14902896 (OP) +>In a capitalist society, all gains require you to step on others. +Back to school, retard +--- 14904762 +>>14903227 +>hates capitalism because he’s poor diff --git a/his/14902909.txt b/his/14902909.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..96cce20bc840d7258d2de4c16c888f356b960920 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902909.txt @@ -0,0 +1,482 @@ +----- +--- 14902909 +What is the appeal of atheism/nihilism? How does someone get their jollies pretending that nothing matters and there are no consequences? Is it simply because they really want to partake in sodomy or bestiality that bad? I can’t understand how someone could be so angry at God that they pretend to not recognize His existence. +--- 14902932 +>>14902909 (OP) +>What is the appeal of atheism/nihilism? +The truth? Imagine thinking a bearded man in the sky is watching over you +--- 14902941 +>>14902932 +>trust le science bro!! XD +Why do you reject thousands of years worth of evidence and teachings just so you feel no guilt living your decadent lifestyle? God doesn’t want you to think about men’s cocks. He wants you to build a family and spread His love. +--- 14902948 +>>14902941 +Bro you admitted you didn't even go to mass on any day of the Holy Week and instead spent your time posting homoerotic edits of atheist comedians on a degenerate anime imageboard. You're not a Christian, you're just a larper. +--- 14902951 +>>14902909 (OP) +Which God? +Tell me why your God exists and the thousands of other Gods and religious cults throughout history are wrong?. +>Nooo Jesus loves me yes I know for the Bible tells me so!!!!. + +There is no eye witness testimony of Jesus. All the gospels were written decades, in some cases 50-70 years after these supposed events. We don't have the originals, could of easily been fabricated. You think the Romans wouldn't of recorded these events or the Sanhedrin that there was this jew rabbi walking on water, raising people from the dead etc?. +The gospel of Matthew claims at the time of the crucifixion, graves of saints opened and they climbed out and went for a stroll in Jerusalem, NO evidence to support any of these claims. +Even the whole story is pathetic and contemptible, the idea that a human sacrifice of a guy who was supposed to be also god thousands of years ago absolves me of my sins is laughable and pathetic. Primitive Middle eastern scapegoating. + +What's more likely the laws of nature were suspended for your Jew rabbi to walk on water rise from the dead etc, or it's bullshit? +Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. +--- 14902953 +>>14902948 +You really think God doesn’t let you worship Him from your home if you’re sick? Where are you getting your rules from? +--- 14902958 +>>14902941 +>trust the cuck manual written by Rabbi Yeshua™, ignore that science and technology has evolved so much these last few centuries that every single thing written in religious text has been debunked +--- 14902960 +>>14902953 +You were sick throughout the entire week? You couldn't go to mass on the Holy Monday? Or Holy Tuesday? Or Holy Wednesday? Or Palm Thursday? Or Good Friday? Or Holy Saturday? +--- 14902965 +>>14902951 +The Romans were trying to hide Christ’s message from us. Why would they document His miracles? And yes, the stories of Jesus are from eyewitness accounts. Hundreds of people to this very day have met Him through near death experiences. You think they are all lying despite having the same experience to tell? +--- 14902970 +>>14902960 +Yes, but I still prayed to Him every day. +--- 14902974 +>>14902965 +>Why would they document His miracles? +Name a single contemporary roman historian who wrote about his miracles. Literally the only contemporary source is just the bible +>And yes, the stories of Jesus are from eyewitness accounts. Hundreds of people to this very day have met Him through near death experiences. You think they are all lying despite having the same experience to tell? +Its called schizophrenia +--- 14902975 +>>14902970 +You are lying. You said that you went to mass on the Sunday before. +Lying about why you didn't go to mass is absolutely insane. You will burn in hell forever, larper. +--- 14902980 +>>14902974 +>things that hurt my narrative don’t count +>>14902975 +I did. I wasn’t sick the previous Sunday. What are you talking about? +--- 14902987 +>>14902980 +Extremely convenient that you weren't sick the previous Sunday but immediately became so sick on the next day that you couldn't go to mass. +But no, we both know that's not it. When you said you went to mass the previous Sunday, you weren't even aware that you ought to go to mass on every day of the Holy Week. You're a larper and a liar, and you will burn in hell forever. +--- 14902991 +>>14902987 +>getting sick on a monday is rare and never happens because I say so +You are mentally ill. +--- 14903001 +>>14902958 +what has been debunked specifically? +--- 14903002 +>>14902970 +>>14902991 +We both know what the truth is. You lie and then you lie about having lied. And you're unrepentant too, because otherwise you would've stopped. +Do you even realize how blasphemous it is to lie about why you didn't go to mass on Easter? You're done. It's over. +--- 14903004 +>>14903002 +t. larping fedora +--- 14903008 +>>14903004 +I'm not a fedora. I'm a Christian and unlike you, I actually go to mass. +You think you can just keep lying and maybe pray later and everything will be forgiven? That's not how it works. Your continued lying is a sign that you're not actually repentant. +--- 14903015 +>>14903008 +>I’m a Christian +Doubtful. I’ll be praying for you. +--- 14903016 +The gervais poster skipped going to church during the holiest week of the year so he could post his gay porn on /his/? Kek, this guy is competing to be a bigger lolcow than jwanon. +--- 14903021 +>>14903015 +Pray for yourself, you pathetic moron. You have a lot to answer for, and the list keeps growing with every reply of yours here that denies the truth about what you did on the Holy Week. +--- 14903024 +>>14902909 (OP) +Anon why do you hate Ricky Gervais so much +--- 14903028 +>>14902951 +Shut up nerd +--- 14903031 +>>14903021 +You sure do sound like a man who is good with God, telling someone else they don’t worship Him in the right way. Do you think He would have wanted me to spread my illness to others when I can talk to Him anywhere? Why do you feel like you know better than He does? What sect are you even? +--- 14903035 +>>14903031 +and you sure looks like a man who good with god, by posting erotic rick gervais picture +--- 14903037 +>>14903031 +Each separate reply where you lie about what you did during the Holy Week is another blasphemy, and another show of the fact that you're unrepentant about blaspheming. I have half a mind to stop replying because I'm just coaxing you to keep digging your hole deeper, but in the end, it's your choice. +--- 14903042 +>>14903001 +Bible +>God created everything +Science +>Evolution theory + +Bible +>The Earth is 6000 years old +Science +>The Earth is billions years old + +Bible +>Noah's Ark is real +Science +>Noah's Ark is scientifically impossible +--- 14903046 +>>14903035 +He knows why I do it. +>>14903037 +That’s not what blasphemy means, you fool. +--- 14903049 +>>14903042 +No evidence for macroevolution whatsoever. +--- 14903052 +>>14903046 +You think that lying about why you didn't attend mass during the Holy Week isn't blasphemy? You think it's not a direct insult to God? Lord have mercy on your soul. +--- 14903054 +>>14903024 +Ricky Gervais is basedjak incarnate +--- 14903057 +>>14903052 +I’m not lying, you larping fedora bastard. You’re trying way too hard. +--- 14903060 +>>14903057 +>>14903004 +>>14902980 +>>14902909 (OP) +HOW ARE YOU GETTING THESE IMAGES LOL +--- 14903062 +>>14903057 +This too is a lie. How many lies do you intend to pile up today? Are you even aware of what you're doing? Do you realize the consequences? +--- 14903069 +>>14902980 +>>things that hurt my narrative don’t count +No the new testament are not eyewitness accounts. +What's more likely the laws of nature were suspended for your Jew rabbi to walk on water rise from the dead etc, or it's bullshit? +Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. +--- 14903074 +>>14903049 +What are wisdom teeth for then? + +Why have we got nails on our toes? +--- 14903086 +>>14903062 +>>14903069 +>edgy fedoras dropping obvious bait +Why are you people like this? +>>14903074 +All my wisdom teeth came in fine. Why is God giving us toenails weird to you? +--- 14903089 +>>14903086 +>unrepentant blaspheming pornographer is calling me a fedora +How are you going to justify this when the time comes? +>b-but I had a really good reason! I was blaspheming to save face on an anonymous imageboard +Not gonna go well for you, larper. +--- 14903091 +>>14903086 +Notice you always evade my questions. +Where is your evidence that these claims are true? +Have you considered that they might be bullshit, like the thousands of other Gods, religions and cults that have existed throughout history? +What's more likely the laws of nature were suspended for your Jew rabbi to walk on water rise from the dead etc, or it's bullshit? +--- 14903093 +>>14902965 +>And yes, the stories of Jesus are from eyewitness accounts. +NOT TRUE. +Anyone who has studied the bible knows this, you are in complete denial. +--- 14903098 +>>14903091 +Aside from the obvious miracles we witness in our lives every day, the Old and New Testaments are very detailed in their documentation of the Son and the Father. Why are you so adamant to ignore evidence that is right in front of you? Do you feel that it somehow threatens your way of life? +--- 14903112 +>>14903098 +>Aside from the obvious miracles we witness in our lives every day, +Not evidence, I have never seen any miracles. + +>he Old and New Testaments are very detailed in their documentation of the Son and the Father. +Jewish fables. +No evidence, exodus was true, no evidence the Jews even lived in Egypt in large numbers. No evidence of the Passover, pestilence etc etc. No evidence of the flood. No evidence of talking snakes. +There is no eye witness testimony of Jesus. All the gospels were written decades, in some cases 50-70 years after these supposed events. We don't have the originals, could of easily been fabricated. You think the Romans wouldn't of recorded these events or the Sanhedrin that there was this jew rabbi walking on water, raising people from the dead etc?. +The gospel of Matthew claims at the time of the crucifixion, graves of saints opened and they climbed out and went for a stroll in Jerusalem, NO evidence to support any of these claims +NO MENTION of Jesus outside of the bible, until about 100 years when Roman historians mention Christians. +The evidence you mention is pathetic +--- 14903125 +>>14903112 +You didn’t need a wall of text to tell me that you are choosing to reject evidence because you don’t like it. Cope and seethe, fedora. +--- 14903129 +>>14903125 +Okay where is the evidence for these miracles- a suspension of the laws of nature? +Please change my mind +--- 14903141 +>>14903129 +Rainbows, the Grand Canyon, the tide, near death experiences, Israel bouncing back against all odds, just to name a few. You’ve already refused to acknowledge all the documentation, so I really doubt you’re open to being wrong. +--- 14903145 +>>14903141 +>Rainbows, the Grand Canyon, the tide, near death experiences, Israel bouncing back against all odds. +LOL. Okay you are either a child or just retarded. +Goodbye +--- 14903148 +>>14903145 +Enjoy hell. +--- 14903157 +>>14903060 +The madman AI generates them to scare people +--- 14903163 +I used to be a believer OP, mainly because that's what I was educated with at a young age but I eventually dropped it, like believing in Santa Claus. I really, really fucking want Santa Claus to be real, but it doesn't add up. If God is truly real, I think he would forgive me for not believing in him--more than someone who prays and goes to church and commits crimes and then thinks they can do to a church booth to perform a hard reset as if they never did anything wrong. If he is real and will send me to hell for my skepticism, he truly is not the kind of God everyone claims he is. +--- 14903165 +>>14903141 +>Israel bouncing back against all odds + +and sell weapons to secular muzzie, and destroy the first christcuck nation, indeed it was a miracle +--- 14903167 +>>14903165 +>secular muzzie +What are you talking about? +--- 14903175 +>>14903148 +You will go to hell for your unrepentant blaspheming. You'll be there with him. +--- 14903178 +>>14903163 +>santa claus and God are comparable +Obvious bait +--- 14903180 +>>14903163 + +Also, just want to ask what God would consider is a sin. I currently pay taxes to a government that builds bombs that kills people, how much responsibility do I own for that murder? Technically everyone in the entire world has contributed to the death of someone, does that mean it is not a sin? If I ordered the death of someone but didn't commit it personally, am i absolved? It seems like an impossible question to answer, does God go by a point system like a report card? Do I get points for attending church and lose points for performing a crime? And then I get a scorecard for either heavy, purgatory, or hell? +--- 14903189 +>>14902909 (OP) +--- 14903202 +>>14903189 +Nobody is buying this +--- 14903224 +>>14902909 (OP) +>atheism/nihilism +These are two completely different things. How stupid are you? +--- 14903228 +>>14903224 +Explain how they are different +--- 14903235 +>>14903228 +Explain how they are the same. +--- 14903258 +>>14903235 +Without God life has no meaning. +--- 14903262 +>>14903258 +No. +--- 14903270 +>>14903262 +Yes. +--- 14903275 +>>14903270 +No. +--- 14903286 +>>14903275 +Fedora cope +--- 14903290 +>>14903286 +Not an argument. Thank you for your concession. +--- 14903299 +>>14903290 +I’ll pray for you. +--- 14903318 +>>14903299 +Also not an argument. I accept your second concession. +--- 14903330 +>>14902909 (OP) +Has Ricky Gervais filed a restraining order against you yet? +--- 14903384 +>>14903024 +God hates the English. +--- 14903402 +>>14903228 +>a·the·ism +>Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. +>ni·hil·ism +>The rejection of all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless. +Specifically nihilists think that life is meaningless. But disbelieving in God absolutely does NOT require you to think that life is meaningless. + +I think Ricky Gervais thinks that life is meaningless. But that doesn't mean every atheist does. I think Ricky is pretty misguided in thinking life is meaningless. + +>>14903290 +>>14903318 +Based. +--- 14903422 +>>14903402 +What meaning do you think life has? +--- 14903432 +>>14903422 +Don't feel like telling you to be honest. But yeah I do think life has meaning. +--- 14903446 +>>14903432 +>literally cannot tell me +The absolute state of atheists +--- 14903459 +>>14903446 +Imagine crying at the truth like you are. Pathetic. +--- 14903462 +>>14902909 (OP) +The appeal of not being dictated your purpose and meaning is that you get to find it in your everyday life and live a more fulfilling existence in the moment setting your own goals instead of depriving yourself of agency your whole life. +--- 14903463 +>>14903432 +>I know the answer but I'm not telling. +You must be 18 to post here. +--- 14903468 +>>14903463 +If you're too thick to work out reality for yourself then that isn't my problem. +--- 14903478 +>>14903459 +How about you tell me then? +--- 14903483 +>>14903478 +How about you suck my cock? +--- 14903497 +>>14903483 +Thank you for admitting defeat. +--- 14903500 +>>14903468 +Nigger just tell us what makes you think your life is worth living so we can laugh at you sooner than later. +--- 14903504 +>>14903500 +Yeah the idea that anything apart from worshipping the Jew god would make life worth living is laughable. +--- 14903506 +>>14903497 +>>14903500 +>admitting that whatever the answer is, they will reject it +Why are you so mad at the truth? Pathetic. + +Glad I could defeat you. +--- 14903518 +>>14903506 +What truth? You've said nothing. You're as empty as the ice cream carton you just got done shoveling into your maw. +--- 14903539 +>>14903518 +>he can't figure out the truth for himself +LMAO +--- 14903541 +>>14903539 +I know what *my* truth is, I'm asking for yours you fucking headcase. +--- 14903559 +>>14903541 +>he thinks he gets to make up what the truth is +HAHAHAHAHA +--- 14903570 +>>14903432 +>>14903459 +>>14903468 +>>14903483 +>>14903504 +>>14903506 +>>14903539 +>>14903559 +I hate atheists so much it’s unreal +--- 14903595 +>>14903570 +I hate Christcuck larpers so much it's unreal. +--- 14903600 +>>14903595 +>larpers +I don’t think you understand what that word means. +--- 14903629 +>>14903600 +I know exactly what it means. 4chan incels pretend to be Christians because they think it will get them a tradwife and children. It won't, of course, because they never leave their smelly bedrooms. +--- 14903646 +>>14903629 +You seem underage to me. +--- 14903659 +>>14903646 +Nope. It's true, isn't it? +--- 14903664 +>>14903659 +I have a wife and two kids. I have my own house. What do you have? +--- 14903761 +>>14902932 +>bearded man in the sky +That's what you think God is? Your concept of It is that simple? +--- 14903828 +>>14903664 +>I have a wife and two kids. I have my own house. +Post wife's tits or gtfo, larpie. +--- 14903876 +>>14903828 +I don’t think she’d appreciate that very much. Have Gervais’s tits instead. +--- 14903883 +>>14903876 +>uuuh actually guys my girlfriend lives in canada, but she's totally really +Yeah sure you incel neet. +--- 14904006 +>>14902932 +>nihilist +>cares about the "truth" +Why are people who supposedly don't care about anything cate so much about truth and authenticity, how do they justify this +--- 14904074 +>>14903883 +>hey babe can I take a picture of your tits so I can win an internet argument on a Basque carpentry imageboard +>I need to impress a literal nobody babe please +--- 14904112 +>>14902909 (OP) +Can you generate a pic of Ricky Gervais fighting Satan in hell? +--- 14904234 +>>14904112 +--- 14904249 +>>14904234 +Fantastic. He is not laughing now LOL +--- 14904376 +>>14902909 (OP) +>>14902980 +>>14903004 +>>14903057 +>>14903086 +>>14903125 +>>14903148 +>>14903178 +>>14903286 +>>14903446 +>>14903497 +>>14903518 +>>14903541 +>>14903876 +>>14904234 +you think your "god" can save you from GOTT's wrath? +--- 14904480 +>>14903664 +>>14903876 +>he claims to have a wife and kids but spends every single day spamming AI pictures of Ricky Gervais in various positions +Yeah I bet she loves you, a terminally online seether like you is definitely a real catch +--- 14904561 +Fun thing is that Ricky is the actual son of God testing our faith, and the faggot OP will be the only loser on Earth suffering eternal torment in hell kek +--- 14904563 +>Christian + +>revelling in the idea of people going to hell and being tortured + +Ah yes. +--- 14904578 +>>14904249 +He's laughing at obsessed christcuck faggots +--- 14904792 +>>14902909 (OP) +>I can’t understand how someone could be so angry at God that they pretend to not recognize His existence. +your worshipping a force not a god +gods usually have names and a family tree +christians are just some really weird breed of atheist with a lot of infighting +--- 14904809 +>>14904563 +It happens every time, they claim to be Christian yet are extremely hateful, despite Christ saying to love thy neighbour +--- 14904881 +>>14903049 +>1+1=2 +>but no evidence for 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=10 +--- 14904913 +>>14903141 +>Rainbows +A rainbow does not exist at one particular location. Many rainbows exist; however, only one can be seen depending on the particular observer's viewpoint as droplets of light illuminated by the sun. All raindrops refract and reflect the sunlight in the same way, but only the light from some raindrops reaches the observer's eye. This light is what constitutes the rainbow for that observer. The whole system composed by the Sun's rays, the observer's head, and the (spherical) water drops has an axial symmetry around the axis through the observer's head and parallel to the Sun's rays. The rainbow is curved because the set of all the raindrops that have the right angle between the observer, the drop, and the Sun, lie on a cone pointing at the sun with the observer at the tip. The base of the cone forms a circle at an angle of 40–42° to the line between the observer's head and their shadow but 50% or more of the circle is below the horizon, unless the observer is sufficiently far above the earth's surface to see it all +>the Grand Canyon +The Grand Canyon is part of the Colorado River basin which has developed over the past 70 million years. Formation of the Grand Canyon and the Colorado River may involve a complex history in which multiple factors and geologic processes have interacted over time and in different locations. +The emerging scientific consensus is that the canyon is made up of multiple segments which formed at different times and eventually connected to become the waterway now traversed by the Colorado River. Of the three central segments, the "Hurricane" was formed 50-70 million years ago, and the "Eastern Grand Canyon" was cut 15-25 million years ago. In contrast, the "Marble Canyon" and "Westernmost Grand Canyon" segments at the ends of the canyon were carved in the last five to six million years. +--- 14904917 +>>14903141 +>>14904913 +>the tide +Because the gravitational field created by the Moon weakens with distance from the Moon, it exerts a slightly stronger than average force on the side of the Earth facing the Moon, and a slightly weaker force on the opposite side. The Moon thus tends to "stretch" the Earth slightly along the line connecting the two bodies. The solid Earth deforms a bit, but ocean water, being fluid, is free to move much more in response to the tidal force, particularly horizontally (see equilibrium tide). +>near death experiences +There are a dozen different models for this depersonalization, expectancy, dissociation, neuroanatomical, neurochemical, multi-factorial, low oxygen levels, altered blood gas levels, and others + +None of these are miracles that require God to exist. +--- 14904994 +>>14903141 +>he thinks rainbows and the Grand Canyon are evidence of God +HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA diff --git a/his/14902929.txt b/his/14902929.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..be905d65512064281762c1a2561e9dabde511997 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902929.txt @@ -0,0 +1,134 @@ +----- +--- 14902929 +Has feminism aged the worst out of all progressive causes of the 20th century? Looking back at the works of prominent feminist academics, it's a lot of vapid bullshit, promises of some vague "emancipation" with no convincing vision of what that final liberation would look like, etc. +--- 14902962 +>>14902929 (OP) +What the fuck am I reading +--- 14903083 +It cannibalized itself every 20 years with the same methods which is how you get troon advocates labelling older gens TERFs +--- 14903096 +>>14902929 (OP) +It has aged poorly, It was always based on a flawed premise that women were somehow "oppressed" and was backed by wealthy elites who wanted to saturate the labor market. +Ironically the final nail in the coffin was trannies subverting their entire movement. Trannies basically invalidate the entire idea of feminism by saying that gender is actually just something in your head (which brings into question how you can even be oppressed for your gender). But you'll never be able to see feminism anymore without trannies involved somehow due to how thoroughly they hijacked the movement. I don't really feel that bad for them though, you reap what you sow. +--- 14903120 +>>14903083 +Ironically the older gens were also into gender relativity or gender abolition shit, including some second wavers like Firestone +--- 14903126 +Feminism has been wildly successful, beyond anything its early leaders could possibly have imagined. + +I don't know what you mean by "aged badly," but the power and seemingly unstoppable dominance of feminism in almost every aspect of public life is essentially undeniable. + +Abortion is legal virtually everywhere in the developed world. Women have the upper hand in the dating scene and marriage against virtually all but the very most elite men. Women are favoured in business, academia, and government. + +Disaffected men are forced to take comfort in the tiniest of victories. Oh, abortion is a states' rights issue again! This will effect a small number of women in a minority of states in one country (meanwhile abortion rights are marching forward in basically every other part of the world). Trannies are getting access to womens' sports and a few swimming pools and changing rooms, how ironic! (Meanwhile, virtually all men-only private clubs have been forced open to women, not to mention all the institutions formerly dominated by men that have been overcome, from Parliament to the universities to the police, army and courts...) +--- 14903131 +>>14903126 +Big Asian lady sexo +--- 14903160 +>>14903126 +It's been successful in having been recuperated by the neoliberal system but it aged badly. Ideologically it lost all of its edge (if it ever even had any after the first wave) and even progressive libs aren't enthusiastic about it anymore. To right-wingers it just represents the cause of the fertility crisis (alongside the Sexual Revolution). +It's notable that currently the most perceptive or prominent "feminist" is in fact a post-feminist (Mary Harrington) +--- 14903168 +>>14902929 (OP) +It has achieved total female emancipation. Men no longer have any privileges left, but kept all their old obligations like going to war. +So if anything feminism has achieved more than planned, similar or more rights than men with less obligations. +This thread is pure copium, out of all the leftist ideologies feminism has succeeded 110% all the other ones failed here and there, gays are still ostracized in private, troons are getting BTFO in public as well. +But women got their full fucking suffrage and more and their rights will never be reverted. Modern feminism is just beating a dead horse. +--- 14903176 +>>14903096 +>Ironically the final nail in the coffin +Which coffin you spastic? Feminism won, women went from not being allowed to vote, work, open bank accounts and being married without their consent to what we have today, complete freedom and emancipation and living life on EZ mode. Female incels don't exist for a reason, male suicide is 4x higher for the same reason. +In the UK it is illegal to stare at a woman in the metro, what exactly is this feminist coffin? They got it all they won and men lost ALL their privileges. +--- 14903181 +>>14903160 +>Ideologically it lost all of its edge (if it ever even had any after the first wave) and even progressive libs aren't enthusiastic about it anymore. +Yeah because it has already achieved all of it's goals dumb fuck. It's a dead horse at this point. What else is there for feminism to do? WOMEN GOT FULL EMANCIPATION +--- 14903184 +>>14903168 +>out of all the leftist ideologies feminism has succeeded 110% +That's why it aged badly +--- 14903186 +>>14903181 +That's what I'm saying retard +--- 14903192 +>>14903184 +So who the fuck cares? It won in every aspect and more, first wave feminists would never have believed this would happen if you told them. +It literally outperformed all of it's goals for society and took a shit on men as a gender and your cope is that hurrr it didn't age right. Of course retard the job is done, modern feminists are just trying to see how far they can push it until men fight back - answer is: pretty fucking far with no end in sight yet +--- 14903200 +>>14903192 +>So who the fuck cares? +Why do you care so much about me caring about it? +--- 14903205 +>>14903200 +I don't get you. It's like pointing out that the military power that was able to conquer the entire Earth lost it's military edge afterwards. +Yeah retard, cause there is no more purpose for high military spending at that point. You are not wrong just retarded. +--- 14903219 +>>14903205 +You're the retarded one because you can't fathom what's being discussed. Feminism wasn't a subversive or edgy ideology even in the 60s. It's always been a larp moreso than the other leftist escapades. The fact it has such institutional power is PROOF of my statement +--- 14903225 +>>14903219 +You're too retarded to make a point. Feminism has never been a larp, if anything the trans movement today is a massive larp, feminism achieved all of it's goals decade after decade. It had no clear vision? Expect me to believe nobody in the past envisioned current western society as it is today? Moron. +--- 14903248 +>>14902962 +Weak moid-brain can't handle the divine feminine. +--- 14903259 +>>14903176 +Becoming hedonistic and barren and plunging civilization into the gutter isnt 'winning'. Depression rates among women show these 'wins' didnt reflect in happiness, on the contrary. +--- 14903331 +>>14903225 +>It had no clear vision? +It didn't. Please tell me how the vision of e.g. Luce Irigaray was fulfilled. Go read feminist academics, their demands were a far cry from and more abstract than corporate feminism, street activist Handmaid costume feminism or social media witch hunt feminism +--- 14903345 +>>14903259 +Women don't care about civilization. I actually interact with women on a daily basis unlike you, none of them are depressed. I spoke to plenty of depressed people in my life and they were all men. +Women live life on the easiest of fucking modes, they live on tutorial mode, the vast majority of women are not depressed they experience life at it's fullest. They could have harems of Chads they could rotate around if they wanted to modern women live on the same level as Sultans of the past, they don't even need to work finding a retard to provide for some crumbs of pussy is piss easy. +--- 14903362 +>>14903345 +Women aren't depressed in their youth, but once they hit the Wall their lives turn sour if they failed to secure a mate. Women are in a way actually worse off because their beauty fades very quickly and then they spend the remainder of their life as wine aunts and cat ladies +--- 14903366 +The culture of the 1950s encouraged women to be homemmakers but not all women were suited for that life and many chafed at it. Of course then second wave feminism went the other unhealthy extreme and decided that all women should be Fortune 500 CEOs but not all of them were suited for that life and ended up suffering trying to achieve that goal. +--- 14903367 +>>14903362 +>Women are in a way actually worse off because their beauty fades very quickly and then they spend the remainder of their life as wine aunts and cat ladies +In fairness though, dating for men also becomes nightmare mode with age, and it gets harder to find a young, fertile woman +--- 14903377 +this thread reads like /r9k/ and Facebook had a baby +--- 14903379 +>>14903362 +>their lives turn sour if they failed to secure a mate +More nuclear incel cope. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Women can get partners at any age, I've been on dating groups and seen 50 YEAR OLDS get bombarded with messages. +TRP is cope for retards, women have more sexual market value than incels at any age. Yes a 50 year old woman has a better chance at getting a partner than you in your prime. +The Wall ruins women my ass male suicide rate is 4x higher at any age bracket fuck off now +--- 14903439 +>>14903379 +>Yes a 50 year old woman has a better chance at getting a partner than you in your prime. +You can't be serious. Please be bait +--- 14903501 +>>14903126 +>Abortion is legal virutally everywhere +With severe restrictions even in the West. Anything beyond first trimester in most of the developped world is frowned upon. In America, it's being pushed back beyond first trimester now. +>Women have the upper hand in the dating scene +This has always been the case. Even chivalry back in the Medieval era was basically men kneeling and worshipping women. +>Women are favored in business, academia +STEM is overwhelmingly dominated by men to this day in spite of affirmative action +>and government +Men prefer technical jobs to admnistrative jobs, big deal +>Meanwhile, virtually all men-only private clubs have been forced open to women, not to mention all the institutions formerly dominated by men that have been overcome, from Parliament to the universities to the police, army and courts...) +Almost all of those instutitions are dominated by men; courts have always been favorable to women since the dawn of time (A woman accusing a jogger of rape got him lynched 100% of the time) +--- 14903515 +most women still just work in "traditional" female lines of work like teaching and nursing, so... +--- 14903678 +>>14903186 +how on earth do you consider a movement succeeding almost totally "aging badly"? that's like saying the gay rights movement aged badly because they've succeeded so totally that in many parts of the West the argument is over coercing the remaining holdouts to accept them. +not to mention the implication that an ideological movement remained static over time. there's a reasons xth Wave Feminism entered popular terminology. Just because Feminists rooted in earlier Feminist traditions are in conflict with modern pro-Trans ideologies doesn't mean the whole ideology aged poorly. +--- 14903723 +>>14903678 +>how on earth do you consider a movement succeeding almost totally "aging badly"? +Because they still larp as le underdog +--- 14903724 +>>14903126 +Yes but this is going to have drastic consequences down the road. Expecting women to have introspection over this matter is going to be a failure. They’ll learn the hard way +--- 14903729 +>>14903678 +>implication that an ideological movement remained static over time. +I didn't imply that. All waves aged badly diff --git a/his/14902994.txt b/his/14902994.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..78622917040d783fcb80dd581bb75688cb238536 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14902994.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 14902994 +The October "Revolution" was more like a coup by most metrics +--- 14903373 +The October "Revolution" (happened in november) was a german coup to knock out russians from the war. +--- 14904624 +The October "Revolution" was led by Jews who wanted to sissy hypno russians into being soiboys diff --git a/his/14903033.txt b/his/14903033.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6204319a0c9d1c2c5ad55049fbde8f65b6318b5b --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903033.txt @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +----- +--- 14903033 +>The National Socialist Women's League established the office of the "Reich Commissioner for German costume" under the leadership of Gertrud Pesendorfer (1895–1982).[63][64][65] In 1938, she published dirndl designs by Gretel Karasek (1910–1992), which Pesendorfer described as "renewed costume".[66] Pesendorfer claimed that Karasek made the following innovations from traditional designs: (1) the collar was removed, allowing display of décolletage; (2) long sleeves were replaced by puff sleeves; (3) the waist was emphasised with tighter lacing and buttons; and (4) the skirt was reduced to mid length. The overall effect accentuated the female form and especially the breasts.[64][67][63] Pesendorfer described the new style as "de-catholicised" (entkatholisiert); she said her goal was to free the costume of "overburdening by church, industrialization and fashionable cries" and "foreign influences" and to let the "rogue sub-culture" back again.[64][65][67] +--- 14903045 +Birth rates obviously. + +Thats also why Hitlerjugend and BDM-Mädel groups were kept close together and were basically breeding camps. +--- 14903265 +>>14903045 +This^ +>>14903033 (OP) +They were actively encouraged to have as many children as possible. Literally. +--- 14903284 +>>14903033 (OP) +Because the Nazis weren't tradcath larpers and wanted to reward their young male supporters. Also, the easier the women, the more Aryans to settle the East after the Endsieg. Literally the entire logic behind this +--- 14903328 +They weren't muslims Omar +--- 14903340 +They wanted a total free-for-all orgy to increase German birthrates as rapidly as possible and girls as young as 13 were being encouraged to get knocked up. +--- 14903344 +Damn, look at these JIDF shills trying to make sex seem like a bad thing. + +Eat shit kike, young German boys pop young German girl's pussys and there's nothing you can do about it. Your pet niggers never even leave the cities, they know the Germans in the country shoot back and don't miss. +--- 14903348 +>>14903340 +>and girls as young as 13 were being encouraged to get knocked up. +Based. God made females fertile by 10 for a reason +--- 14903356 +>>14903348 +>Based. God made females fertile by 10 for a reason +--- 14903359 +Zoomer Trads need to get laid more. People are having less sex than ever, pop culture is completely de-eroticized. +--- 14903368 +>>14903359 +>lives in the age of OnlyFans +>culture is less sexu +Uh... +--- 14903370 +>>14903344 +Holy cope…Germans are some of the most neutered people in the world kek there is nobody as unpatriotic as them. Are we still pretending immigrants don’t live in the countryside now? +--- 14903383 +>>14903368 +Both of those are true though, it is more like sex has been segregated. You have OnlyFans and Pornhub but at the same time mainstream stuff has less T&A than before. There are only two extremes now, hardcore porn or no sexual content at all. +--- 14903392 +I hate how absolutely unhealthy this jewish slide thread is. +Kids at 15-16 should be having sex. Girls and boys at that age are perfect for pair-bonding. + +Sexless Americans and pedophilic jews itt need to rope themselves. +--- 14903395 +>>14903033 (OP) +>The nazis were socially conservative and wanted young boys and young girls to get together as soon as they could +I know this triggers you Ahmed but unsurprisingly the Nazis weren't muslims, how shocking +--- 14903407 +It's hilarious how a vitalist society makes conservative reactionaries clutch their pearls. +--- 14903447 +Hold up...stacies who go to Oktoberfest are carrying on the Nazi legacy +--- 14903452 +>>14903359 +do you know how difficult that is? Im 21 and have never even touched a girl +--- 14903458 +>>14903447 +There are numerous assorted bits and pieces of the Nazi era that are still left over in Germany most don't notice such as Labor Day (first made an official holiday in 1933) and random other laws here and there that were never repealed in the postwar era. +--- 14903488 +>>14903033 (OP) +Honestly don't mind if traditionalism comes with abit of sensuality. This whole anti-sex thing is only an Abrahamic thing anyway +--- 14903602 +>>14903368 +That's the thing, actual eroticism has been relegated to the ghettos of internet pornography sites. Mainstream culture in the US is completely sexless, instead of beautiful women and men in art and advertisements, it's completely ugly and vulgar. Compare to HR Giger, just because something has dicks and vaginas doesn't mean it's titillating. Modern art is completely alien and desexualized compared to the ancients. +--- 14903626 +>>14903602 +Here's modern advertisements. Completely desexualized and dehumanized. Barely any secondary sex characteristics, races are completely interchangeable. American culture is completely sterile. +--- 14903687 +>>14903458 +>Tag der Arbeit +Looking forward to my free Monday in two weeks +--- 14904601 +>>14903370 +in the former GDR and Saxony Germans will prevail but only if hopefully Berlin gets glassed by DongFeng(东风™) missiles mounted with the most filthy nukes imaginable +--- 14904826 +Fascist here. +We value eternal traditions, not the life-denying traditions of christcucks. Eroticism and sensuality aren‘t something to be fought against and repressed at every opportunity. Christcuck Traditionalists would think the archetypical Hero saving a woman from a rapist, who he then has consensual sex with is degenerate. But it‘s actually one of the oldest traditions there are. +--- 14904841 +>>14904826 +wotan isn't real +--- 14904854 +>>14903488 +This +--- 14904875 +Raising birth rates is all that mattered fuck christcucks diff --git a/his/14903039.txt b/his/14903039.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f45422f4749eb136cdcf52881a3f0b1eacc6584f --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903039.txt @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@ +----- +--- 14903039 +"...theologians talk of the 'dignity of suffering'. Yet being biologically compelled to suffer, as under the present Darwinian DNA regime, is arguably the greatest indignity of all...." + +Quote taken from one of David Pearce's websites: +>https://www.paradise-engineering.com/heav18.htm + +This ZANY idea that suffering is bad (who knew?) completely undermines the idea of a God. +>inb4 ">If God exists, why bad thing happen?" +There is no answer to the above question, though. Believers live in this fantasy world where everything is good despite the fact that the natural world is a fucking slaughterhouse. Has anyone here seen the documentary The Eyes of the Devil? Filthy rich sadists fly in on their private jets to secret locations where they pay shitloads of money to rape infants TO DEATH. The "company" that owns the baby then harvests its organs to sell to other rich people whose babies need organs. Monarchs used to skin, burn, and boil people alive for trying to overthrow them. And you still believe in a God? Get the fuck out of here. +--- 14903099 +>>14903039 (OP) +There was invervention when the annunaki came to earth some 400k years ago and that's why bad things happen today +--- 14903105 +>>14903039 (OP) +--- 14903142 +>>14903099 +aliens made humans from an early species of primate. Frankly they could have done a better job. Some think they just created us to mine gold. + +But that still doesn't explain why the wilderness is a slaughterhouse. I think nature is just cruel. I have to wonder if aliens are cruel, too. I think the Draco/reptilians are (not all species of reptilian apparently), and possibly some greys? But apparently 95% of alien species are good, so that's a relief. They're either vegetarian or don't eat at all, or often are ascended to a higher density with bodies made of light. +--- 14904110 +bump diff --git a/his/14903137.txt b/his/14903137.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..46fd9a42fa5f5a420cb77655517dbea58eba5dc7 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903137.txt @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +----- +--- 14903137 +holy shit +--- 14903154 +Faceblindness is a sign of autism +--- 14903877 +>>14903137 (OP) +same energy +--- 14903917 +>>14903137 (OP) +Both plot very similarly too, it is not a coincidence. +--- 14904026 +>>14903137 (OP) +they look nothing alike, Zucker looks depigmented orientalid, Augustus was subnordid (gracilised nordic) +--- 14904403 +>>14904026 +Augustus had brown eyes and brown hair and would plot with modern Italians today. We know this because this statue was found in his wife's home with brown paint on the eyes and hair. diff --git a/his/14903210.txt b/his/14903210.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..aef98219cd4acc81b1ac823af035724dd0de5e2d --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903210.txt @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@ +----- +--- 14903210 +Why do some protestant leaders come off as super creepy salesmen? And why aren't other protestants creeped out by them? +--- 14903215 +>>14903210 (OP) +>Why do some protestant leaders come off as super creepy salesmen?. +Because they are. +--- 14903234 +>>14903215 +/Thread +--- 14903399 +>>14903210 (OP) +Isn't he Catholic? The only videos I've seen of him are complaining about witchcraft and Harry Potter. +--- 14903494 +>>14903399 +He's one of those CARM/got questions.org tier fundamentalist types. +--- 14903503 +Literally a media personality +--- 14903521 +>>14903210 (OP) +“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” + +You cannot serve both God and Mammon. +--- 14903766 +>>14903210 (OP) +>falling for slick talking shyster con artists + +That’s been Christians since day one +--- 14903913 +>>14903766 +athetroons dont get to say anything about con artists +--- 14903924 +>>14903913 +Didn’t Rabbi Slapstein tell you turn the other cheek? +--- 14903944 +>>14903924 +ask him, youre the one in tel aviv +--- 14903950 +>>14903913 +You believe a virgin gave birth to a magic Jew who went around doing magic powers, got killed then the dead Jew sprung to life again and went around shooting the shit with people. + +And nobody wrote anything about it for half a century! Get the fuck out of here dude. Your religion is crock of shit. +--- 14903954 +>>14903944 +It’s christcuck boomers who demand we support israel +--- 14904023 +>>14903950 +no i dont, but sounds healthier compared to whatever athetroons believe +>>14903954 +sounds like a line from talmud, well done judas +--- 14904087 +>>14903954 +They're gonna regret it too +https://apnews.com/article/e287dd6bad32573d1656eaea07223782 +--- 14904140 +>>14903954 +>nooo demetia ridden old people support israel +You sure it's not just general amerimutt sympathy to fellow mutts (jews)? diff --git a/his/14903211.txt b/his/14903211.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..89a66e751822f4548db7d309789849c41aa6fadd --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903211.txt @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +----- +--- 14903211 +How is Pompeii appearing on maps from 1570 if it is long forgotten? +http://www.pompeiiinpictures.com/pompeiiinpictures/Maps/maps%20bay%20of%20naples.htm +--- 14903260 +>>14903211 (OP) +Nobody bothered to unearth the ruins, but people knew it was there, buried somewhere under the soil deposited by Mount Vesuvius. Only after Schliemann and so on started a craze of excavating archaeological sites, did anyone actually bother to dig up an entire city and look what's there. +--- 14903390 +>>14903260 +How do they know it was Pompeii since we only knew it was Pompeii when it excavated? What's the point showing ruins on a map? With no indicator it's being ruins? +--- 14904099 +Bump diff --git a/his/14903216.txt b/his/14903216.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..290c5be438b7c74d22a3d272acf0979054819fa5 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903216.txt @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@ +----- +--- 14903216 +How and why did firefighting change from literal slave labor to the highest regarded job in modern society? what caused this and what are the implications? +--- 14903313 +>>14903216 (OP) +When technology and new building materials and practices enabled fire-fighting to become an actually effect profession. Without pressurised hoses throwing out hundreds of gallons of water 50ft in the air in a matter of minutes, without steel ladders that can be extended hydraulically, and without actual fireproof clothing and breathing apparatus to provide clean oxygen to the men, there is virtually no way of putting out a house fire once it gets going. The only thing firemen of the past could do is remove the furniture from surrounding houses or even demolish the houses entirely, enabling rampant theft and extortion. +--- 14903670 +>>14903313 +Daily reminder that Crassus made his fortune by running a mob like fire brigade +--- 14903744 +>>14903670 +No he was already rich off of the proscriptions of his political foes +--- 14903864 +>>14903744 +You're mistaken, Crassus was already the richest man in Rome when the proscriptions started diff --git a/his/14903243.txt b/his/14903243.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2463e76b7151c63114881104754612d3821b6c08 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903243.txt @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +----- +--- 14903243 +On any UK high street the same scenario plays out daily: Christian approaches dawah stall Muslims + +>Christian: "Look at them all leaving Islam in Iran, returning to Jesus" +>Salafi: "Iran is not Muslim, it's full of shirk and Rafida Shias were never Muslim anyway" +>Christian: "Muslims in the Middle East are slaughtering Christians" +>Salafi: "We condemn that but why have Copts and Christians in Iraq been there thousands of years, why haven't Muslims wiped them out if Islam tells us to?" +>Christian: "Boko Haram are kidnapping Christians and killing them" +>Salafi: "We condemn killing of innocents, Boko Haram are khawarij they don't represent Islam" +>Christian: "No, no, no ISIS are killing Yazidis and Christians" +>Salafi: "We have been vocal in condemn khawarij groups they don't represent Islam" +>Christian: "Well I mean what about Afghanistan then? Muslims are fleeing here, they can't wait to get away from your Sharia law" +>Salafi: "Taliban are Deobandi, they have some major problems and do not represent Islam" +>Christian: "Ottomans? look at them they genocided Christians in Armenia" +>Salafi: "First of all Ottomans were full of shirk, they do not represent way of the Salaf" +>Christian: "Did you know Saudi just beheaded 50 people?" +>Salafi: "And do you know what their crimes were? Capital punishment is in the Bible you believe in too" + +Christians are unable to defeat Salafis in argument so just go away for a while then return and regurgitate the same things again +--- 14903247 +>>14903243 (OP) +i hope you abrahamic retards all kill each other +--- 14903250 +>>14903243 (OP) +Why don't you become a Christian ? +--- 14903252 +>>14903243 (OP) +Nothing wrong with the Taliban. +--- 14903255 +>>14903252 +They are Deobandi pagan and align with Rafida, women education is permissible in Islam +--- 14903269 +>>14903243 (OP) +what does this make belief discussion has to do with the truth of the religion and theology? +Its like a twitter tier discussion, no one will convert over stuff like this. +--- 14903280 +>>14903255 +You are making takfir of millions of brothers, be careful of what you say +>women education is permissible in Islam +yes, but segregated, away from strange men +--- 14904437 +>>14903243 (OP) +Don't you get bored of making these threads over and over? +--- 14904452 +>>14903243 (OP) +tl;dr +--- 14904523 +>>14903243 (OP) +Get the fuck out of Europe +--- 14904554 +Summary: +>Christian: Yet another case of Islam falling apart +>Muslim: Nu-uh. I win btw. +--- 14904567 +>>14903247 +They do. And they condemn each other. By OP's logic this strips them of "representing Islam" to begin with lmao +--- 14904579 +>>14903243 (OP) +>Christians are unable to defeat +Heh..silly +--- 14904581 +>>14903243 (OP) +GOTT SMITES BOTH diff --git a/his/14903251.txt b/his/14903251.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c697189d5921fa4817ec73342520078cf6072870 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903251.txt @@ -0,0 +1,24 @@ +----- +--- 14903251 +Is freedom of speech really that important? +--- 14903257 +>>14903251 (OP) +only for me and people i agree with +--- 14903276 +>>14903251 (OP) +Freedom of peach leads to drag queens performing at kindergarden. +--- 14903450 +>>14903276 +That is a result of speech against such things being restricted and the media acting as propagandists. +--- 14903466 +Always is + +You can say bullshit the real problem is porn +--- 14903706 +>>14903450 +This. +>>14903251 (OP) +Yeah, but you should definitely have the right to tell idiots who try to shove their shit down society's throat to shut the fuck up +--- 14903709 +>>14903251 (OP) +Yes. Being offended is a choice diff --git a/his/14903282.txt b/his/14903282.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..22a8600180ef4d222846ca16135d81ddf7f870b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903282.txt @@ -0,0 +1,243 @@ +----- +--- 14903282 +>if god were not real, then XYZ +>XYZ would make me upset, therefore god is real +Why is this argument so common? +--- 14903292 +Pretty sure you’re picking among the weakest arguments atheists have because you don’t have proof of your god or a good excuse as to why you don’t have proof. +--- 14903297 +>>14903292 +That's not an atheist argument, it's a religious argument. +--- 14903302 +>>14903297 +>if God is real, then XYZ +>XYZ would make me upset, therefore God is not real +--- 14903311 +>>14903302 +Have you ever seen that argument? Because I've seen the one in the OP. It's actually really common +--- 14903317 +>>14903297 +Notice how you didn’t just provide proof and instead tried to come with an excuse why you’re not posting proof. +--- 14903332 +>>14903317 +I am not religious, I'm a fedora. I'm not sure why I should be providing proof that god exists. +--- 14903338 +>>14903302 +If God is real then he would have to be the most evil and sadistic being to have ever existed. +That makes me upset, therefore God is not real or if he is then he is not worth worshiping. +--- 14903343 +>>14903338 +Arguments aiming at proving that god either isn't omnibenevolent or doesn't exist have nothing to do with feefees though. +--- 14903351 +>>14903332 +Well hey as long as we agree the Christian god isn’t real. +--- 14903409 +>>14903282 (OP) +well its not an argument FOR God as much as it is a defense of God as a concept because sometimes you hear +>I can live perfectly well without God +then someone points they live as if there was a divinely mandated criteria in an effort to get them to consider +>well If I live like there is a God, maybe there is a reason to investigate this honestly and further +At least it would cast some doubt on the idea of God being nothing more than mere superstition as it becomes a socially beneficial shared perspective, and from there someone is at least warm to the idea of God's existence. +--- 14903434 +>>14903409 +>they live as if there was a divinely mandated criteria +But most people don't. They generally live like there was a feeling of empathy that drives how they look at and evaluate things. Which there is. +--- 14903440 +>>14903434 +no, most people do live as if there is something meaningful in life beyond the immediate and sensory. +>they generally live like there was a feeling of empathy +They live as if that empathy is worth adhering to. +--- 14903451 +>>14903440 +Empathy is an emotion that compels you to help others and not to harm them. Anon this is always a difficult topic but I think you’re missing some normal human software. +--- 14903461 +>>14903440 +I always find it curious when religious people say that atheism automatically beholdens you to strictly adhering to your animal instincts, but then act as if you need to have some deep justification for acting based on your empathy. +It really shows how misanthropic your view actually is. +--- 14903490 +>>14903461 +Yeah they’re sociopaths. When they lost their instincts they only think of anti-social, violent and depraved ones. 4chan will unfortunately never be a valuable place to discuss philosophy like this because there are such a large population of anti-social loner outliers that have no idea what it’s like to be a regular person. +--- 14903509 +>>14903451 +>youre not empathetic +I am, I know what empathy is, but you dont see an issue with empathy being meaningless? +>it makes me feel good +so masturbate till you die or OD on heroin, 'feeling good' or rather pursuing feeling good is not going to lead to a satisfying life. + +You arent arguing against Christianity btw, so save your defensive touchy garbage for someone who cares, I am only explaining what Christians are thinking when they make the case OP made. + +This is not the hill for you to die on. +Empathy is as meaningful as aggression, racism, sexism, etc. all natural things, if you arent a genocidal racist, like 99% of humans in history, I think you're missing some normal human software. +Fucking imbecile. +>>14903461 +I always find it retarded when a Westerner thinks they are independent of their retarded mental culture which is secular and exhausted, and this somehow means spirituality can be reduced to the secular and is practiced by the exhausted. +>atheism beholdens you to animal instinct +no one says this, I didnt say this, no one else said this. +Humans will act like animals, because they are animals, no matter what they believe, however religious beliefs allow for a level of temperance which irreligious or anti-traditional religious beliefs do not. +>deep justification +people live as if there was a deep justification for things, it is actually a popular trope in existentialism where humans seem to have an urge to seek out meaning among the absurd. +>misanthropic +Why do you think I am misanthropic? +I will help someone in need whether or not there is a God, I will be a racist retard to the next tribe over whether or not there is a God, it is however exclusively the domain of the Religious individual to critique how I live or to nudge me in one way or another. +You are seething bugmen who cant actually argue against what I said so you resort to "youre a pyscho" +pretend I was a psycho, ok so what? +>dude youre fucked up +so what? +psycho is ultimate will to power. +--- 14903517 +>>14903509 +You wrote a lot of text, but you didn't write why I need to justify acting based on empathy and not acting based on lust. +With that in mind, I take it that you concede this point. I appreciate it, misanthrope-kun. +--- 14903538 +God is real, simple as +--- 14903576 +>>14903517 +>why I need to justify + +You dont, but you live as if you did. +I dont really care what you do, but you do live as if empathy is the better half of you, as opposed to a default aggression which humans find more naturally when 'untempered'. +tempering an individual through socialization and parenting is more cerebral and thus more aligned with a systemized ethical belief system. +--- 14903577 +>>14903509 +Yeah anon you’re clearly have anti-social personality disorder, at the very least you have abnormally dark, violent and anti-social thoughts. +You are less able to function like a normal person based on your natural impulses. It’s that simple. +--- 14903592 +>>14903576 +>I dont really care what you do, but you do live as if empathy is the better half of you, as opposed to a default aggression which humans find more naturally when 'untempered'. +Yeah because acting like a retard is unfulfilling. And you're also ignoring the fact that both empathy and aggression are "the default", which is further showing your misanthropy. +>tempering an individual through socialization and parenting is more cerebral and thus more aligned with a systemized ethical belief system. +None of that is incompatible with my view. If I'm hungry but I have only little food left, I will rationally determine that I can better fulfill the hunger instinct by rationing rather than eating all my food at once. And the same thing applies in social situations. If I'm an empathetic person, I can rationally determine how to channel that empathy more effectively just like I did with hunger in the earlier example. +In other words, you've got nothing. +--- 14903607 +>>14903577 +>we live with empathy and see it as meaningful +>"heh you have anti social personality disorder" +you want to make that make sense to me? Explain to me like I'm four years old, why me saying "Empathy is meaningful but existentially is meaningless and is no better or worse than aggression" means I have some kind dark, violent, anti social thoughts? +>(You) +You have not yet addressed what I said, you have only made attacks on my personal character. + +You have not once explained why you live in a way which is not existentially nihilistic regarding empathy, are you foolish? How would you tell a psycho they are wrong? +Also I literally predicted you wouldnt answer this. + +>function like a normal person +a normal person? +Criminals arent normal? black people arent normal? conquerors arent normal? +What is normal? (You), the average muttmerican who mindlessly waddles through life like some secular bovine indifferent to anything beyond its stomach? + +You realize people arent all the same right? like you understand social morays and behavior differ from group to group right? You do understand the world is not solely comprised of yourself correct? +--- 14903615 +>>14903592 +>acting like a retard is unfulfilling +so why do you defend it? +>you are ignoring empathy is natural +I literally said it was natural, you are lying about it now because you have no rebuttal to me pointing out humans are animals and the negative traits in humans are just as valid and natural as the positive traits, and only a religious individual can give any meaningful justification for either of those traits being designated in either way. +>misanthropy +what is misanthropic about saying humans naturally exhibit both pro and anti social behaviors? +>none of that is incompatible with my view +I dont care about your view. +>youve got nothing +nope, your rationality is just efficiency, it doesnt actually help you determine in an existential sense why patience is preferable to flying off the handle. + +keep trying. +You live as if there is a God, whether there is or is not is irrelevant to this particular instance, you do not live like an existential nihilist. +Simple as. +--- 14903618 +>So what if I raped an entire sorority house? +>yeah Im a psycho, and I just coom in that fresh pucci, what about it? +bugmenxisters.... our response? +--- 14903627 +>>14903607 +>Empathy is meaningful but existentially is meaningless and is no better or worse than aggression" means I have some kind dark, violent, anti social thoughts? +Because you’re open about the fact that your aggressive anti-social thoughts are more dominant in your mind than your empathy. +The way you describe someone without outside control over their behavior is primarily violent and anti-social over empathy, pro-social attitudes and cooperation. +It’s your personal flaws. + +>How would you tell a psycho they are wrong? +They don’t listen, they’re selfish and only respond to punishment or threat of punishment. +--- 14903643 +>>14903615 +>so why do you defend it? +Where so I defend it? +>I literally said it was natural +And I literally didn't say you said it was unnatural in that post. Why are you lying about what I say? Are you that desperate? +>you have no rebuttal to me pointing out humans are animals and the negative traits in humans are just as valid and natural +I told you that empathy leads to more fulfilling outcomes. You didn't address that because you're a coward. +>what is misanthropic about saying humans naturally exhibit both pro and anti social behaviors? +You're saying that aggression is naturally above empathy. +>I dont care about your view. +You are saying that my view is hypocritical because it both rejects and implicitly assumes god. Stop being dishonest. +>nope, your rationality is just efficiency, it doesnt actually help you determine in an existential sense why patience is preferable to flying off the handle. +Flying off the handle leads to less fulfilling outcomes. You conveniently didn't address that one, curious. +Keep dancing around the subject, anon-kun. Keep showing off your desperation. +--- 14903657 +>>14903627 +Where have I ever once said aggressive anti social thoughts are dominant in my own mind? +First, I have never said that +secondly, aggressive anti social thoughts are dominant in all humans BY DEFAULT, children have to be socialized into not being little tyrants. This is just a fact. Humans do not like to share, obey, or curtail their own feelings, go to a daycare and see if you find a utopian commune of uncorrupted humanity LMFAO. +Children have to be TAUGHT to be empathetic, to be patient, to be kind, generous, and caring, they display these traits far less often than they do the opposite of these traits when they are in their most “feral” state. +>the way you describe someone +Nope. I never once said everyone is like this until I mentioned children are less empathetic by default. +I only said humans have no reason to be empathetic instead of aggressive. +Go up to a random person and punch them, see if their default response is anger or patience. They probably hit you back or at the very least call the police on you. +They are not going to assume “they are having a tough day” +You look out your window and you see an empathetic race? Charity abounding amid all the conflict, strife, violent wars? +Where do you live that empathy is the default state from cradle to coffin? +>your personal flaws +Again, I never said anything about my individual person or feelings. +And you can’t call them flaws you have no reason to say anti-social behavior is different from pro-social behavior in any meaningful way. +>you’re flawed +So what? +>repeats that I’m flawed +You can say it over and over, you won’t magically find a reason for someone to care. +The only case you can make is the case I would make which is humans evolved to see pro-social behavior as superior to anti-social behavior in social contexts, however, humans also evolved religion to codify these behaviors, so atheism is as aberrant as the psychopath, both flaunt evolved social behaviors. +--- 14903674 +>>14903643 +Denying the socially beneficial aspects of religion is retarded. +Living based on empathy alone is retarded. +You said I was ignoring that both are natural. I said they were both natural and therefore there is no meaningful distinct between them because both are just behaviors which occur naturally. I didn’t ignore anything. +>empathy leads to more fulfilling outcomes +Firstly, it depends on the context. +Secondly, if that were always true, everyone would do so, so everyone is either retarded, empathy isn’t always fulfilling, or humans don’t seek “fulfillment” in the way you think they do. +>you didn’t address that +What do you mean? There is nothing to address, empathy is an emotional disposition, it is not a way to seek “the most fulfilling outcome”. +If someone killed my dog I would not be satisfied until they were punished sufficiently, I wouldn’t find satisfaction in empathizing with them. +>you’re saying aggression is naturally above empathy +I never said that, previously I only said it was natural, you are reading into it or being dishonest, however in the post I just made I said it is the default state of children, which is true. +Empathy and Aggression are both emotive responses humans naturally have. You have no reason to choose one over the other. You have no reason to forgive a rapist when you could just as easily strike them down. +Your view IS hypocritical. I don’t care what you think. It doesn’t matter to me you’re a hypocrite. +>leads to less fulfilling outcomes +Again depends on the context, you won’t be fulfilled if you find yourself in a fight or flight situation and instead try to talk something out with a wolf. +>desperation +Ironic. +--- 14903680 +>>14903282 (OP) +Man I’d just love to stab an atheist to death and watch him die +--- 14903689 +>>14903657 +Social behavior develops in humans through their maturity. The toddler brain is not the brain of an 18 or 20 year old. They gain much more social instinct and advancement as a part of human development. +Our brains barely work as children and it’s non-sensual to point to a child mind as an adult mind in pretty much any sense. +Adults with anti-social minds exist, and you’re one of them. I don’t have to try to be cooperative, it’s automatic. I’m compelled to do so internally and I enjoy it. It also brings practical benefits even without the inherent reward. +You trying to coax me into being violent and anti-social plays out as a weird sniveling creep trying to justify his own internal misanthropy and mental problems. +--- 14903710 +>>14903689 +Non-sensical* Jesus +--- 14903713 +>>14903674 +>You said I was ignoring that both are natural. I said they were both natural and therefore there is no meaningful distinct between them +I was specifically replying to a post where you said aggression is the default while contrasting it with empathy. I told you that both are the default. +>Firstly, it depends on the context. +True. When you get mugged, aggression can be more fulfilling. +>Secondly, if that were always true, everyone would do so, so everyone is either retarded, empathy isn’t always fulfilling +People are shit at working towards long term outcomes, but they still recognize that working towards the long term outcome would've been better. That's nothing new and doesn't go against my argument. +>What do you mean? There is nothing to address, empathy is an emotional disposition, it is not a way to seek “the most fulfilling outcome”. +I didn't say that it's a way to seek the most fulfilling outcome, I said that it has more fulfilling outcomes. +>If someone killed my dog I would not be satisfied until they were punished sufficiently, I wouldn’t find satisfaction in empathizing with them. +Sure, but if you picked up a shotgun and shot the guy, the outcome wouldn't be fulfilling either. +>I just made I said it is the default state of children, which is true +This is totally irrelevant. Other unsocialized animals also act different from socialized animals. You might as well tell an adult bonobo that his pro-social behaviour is hypocritical. +>You have no reason to forgive a rapist when you could just as easily strike them down. +Living in a society without vigilante justice is better. +>Your view IS hypocritical. +You haven't justified that. +>Again depends on the context, you won’t be fulfilled if you find yourself in a fight or flight situation and instead try to talk something out with a wolf. +Sure. And consequently self-defense widely isn't seen as unethical. What a coincidence, huh? diff --git a/his/14903300.txt b/his/14903300.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..265e00a25656a2aba9f358155ab02a52f366947b --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903300.txt @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ +----- +--- 14903300 +Does it exist? +To what extent? + +I believe genetics and environmental inputs set practical limits, and that some choices are easier for some to make and more difficult for others, but that people still have some free will. I.e., you can choose to do or not do what you want, but you can not choose what you want to do, a la Schopenhauer. I also believe that there is often enough leeway or freedom to influence what environmental inputs there are, and that that in turn expands or at least shifts the window of options of wills available from which we may freely choose to act upon, regardless of what our unconscious will or desire is towards. I.e. upon learning about this concept of the concept that you may choose to seek new wants, you may choose to seek exposure to new knowledge/information/beliefs whereby you increase options for yourself. +In a world without orange trees (to our knowledge) we may not will to pick oranges. In a world in which we are aware of orange trees we may choose to pick oranges, whether we are inclined to pick apples versus oranges or not. Thereby, the freedom to do (or not) what we will is practically indistinguishable from the freedom to will another action. +Thoughts? +--- 14903327 +>>14903300 (OP) +Compatibilism is determinism in denial. +--- 14903413 +>>14903327 +There are different gradations of “will.” +The universe is not purely deterministic. It operates on probability. +--- 14903791 +Schopenhauer is easily s tier philospher +--- 14903826 +I don't believe in free will. Since how animals react is 100% genetic, they have no real control over their actions, since its all predetermined. +If there is a God, who is all powerful and can do whatever, then there is no reason to believe everything that is happening is going according to his plan. So everything has been manipulated in advance to happen. +You never had free will. +--- 14903970 +>>14903300 (OP) +Everyone has free will and deserves everything they get if they choose poorly, it's just how it is don't ask me to elaborate because it's too complicated. +--- 14904037 +>>14903300 (OP) +I am a firm believer that since you are forced to eat and breath you inherently have no free will. diff --git a/his/14903309.txt b/his/14903309.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c9ef5453a33441c9a1a1329eeb129850654b0449 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903309.txt @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +----- +--- 14903309 +How did peasants cope with their life back then? +Surely they were self aware of their situation, I guess ignorance is really a blessing. +--- 14903456 +>>14903309 (OP) +Because it wasn't as bad as it's made out to be. And crucially, they didn't know any other kind of life and everyone around them was in the same and making the best of it. +When you're in the pub with your friends and loved ones, everyone's laughing and dancing and having fun, you really don't give a shit that you're all poor +--- 14903470 +>>14903309 (OP) +In any year it sucks to be a poorfag and doesn't completely suck to be a richfag +--- 14903474 +>>14903309 (OP) +How do wagies cope with their lives now? +Surely they are self aware of their situation, I guess ignorance is really a blessing. +--- 14903495 +>>14903474 +Hedonism. Consuming shitty entertainment that emphasizes being "diverse" over actual quality. Social media. Alcoholism. Suicide +--- 14903505 +>>14903495 +Peasants throughout history have always sought out bawdy entertainment, alcoholism and suicide. Some things never change about humanity +--- 14903647 +Peasant revolts were common. Without a printing press however the ideas behind them rarely spread. See the true levellers +--- 14903662 +>>14903309 (OP) +the same way people get through school and work; via their community and network of friends and family that they've lived with their entire life. They live around eachother, go to mass together, attend festivals together, and do their labors for their lord together. If they get married to someone, it's probably going to be from another family in town, and so the bonds stay together and interweave, because, of the kids who survive, they're going to be interacting with the other kids +You know those guys who live in their home town their entire lives and still have the same friends from middle school and now are working together and still going to the same restaurant? It's like that +--- 14903725 +>>14903309 (OP) +Cope with what? They lived in a welfare system designed to cater to them and only had work to do for less than half the year +--- 14903900 +>>14903725 +>only had work to do for less than half the year +That was what their landlord required. They still had to work for themselves on their own farm, so it was like having a full time job as well as a part time job that you don't get paid for +--- 14904218 +>>14903309 (OP) +>How did peasants cope with their life back then? +The same way you do +--- 14904302 +>>14903309 (OP) + +Why did so few people in the world care about freedom and rights prior to 1776? What exactly were they doing for thousands of years? +--- 14904305 +>>14903505 +>Yesss GOYIMS, believe the pilpul! Everyone has always been raped by niggers, it's just how things work! +--- 14904317 +community dances, drinking and fucking, mostly +--- 14904323 +>>14904302 +>What exactly were they doing for thousands of years? +Trying to survive and north starve. Before we had the tech, that stuff took all your time. +--- 14904350 +>>14903309 (OP) +With religion +--- 14904351 +>>14904302 +They were the equivalent of ghetto niggers committing robberies and going on drive bys. They had no conception of universal rights because their definition of freedom was "literally doing whatever the fuck I want: raping, stealing, murdering, I can do it because I'm bigger and I have a bitching sword and a coat of mail" +--- 14904378 +They had drink, we have drugs. +They had song and dance, we have various bing bang wahoos. +They had (ideally) a wife, we have Tinder or porn. +They had church and community, we have 4chan(nel). +They had clannishness and a village mentality and later, nationalism, we have chud shit to get worked up about. + +Plus ça change +--- 14904416 +>>14904305 +DAS RITE YT BOI +--- 14904954 +>>14903309 (OP) +Serfs had families, wives and kids. Your wageslaving incel ass will die alone and childless. +>Verification not required diff --git a/his/14903342.txt b/his/14903342.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..42cef2f06672294b9273f32244dfb742ea8823fe --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903342.txt @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +----- +--- 14903342 +>Top 10 most famous anglos +>Is actually Irish +What are other historical facts get brushed under the table? +--- 14903382 +>>14903342 (OP) +We have one of those haha +>Top 10 most famous Irish +>Was actually a French Protestant +--- 14903396 +>>14903382 +>French Protestant +Absolutely disgusting +--- 14903397 +>>14903342 (OP) +He was Anglo-Irish, AKA an Englishman +--- 14903401 +>>14903397 +>Irish +>White +--- 14903403 +>>14903401 +What? +When did I mention race in any way? +--- 14903408 +>>14903403 +He's just an Anglo NPC that seethes anytime anyone talks about the Irish +--- 14903423 +>>14903408 +I'm an anglophile bu the hate for the Irish goes too far. +--- 14903443 +>>14903342 (OP) +>most famous french person +>is actually italian +--- 14903445 +>>14903423 +It's just autists online, seen it many times they admit it's because Irish are considered turbo-normies because they're outgoing and other normal people like them. Just contrarianism +--- 14903473 +>>14903445 +Anglos are the first people who started selecting males for intellectual capabilities rather than looks en masse. It's only natural that they're so autistic nowadays. +--- 14903486 +>>14903473 +I've seen you post this before pal, don't know where you got that idea but it's simply not true +--- 14903512 +>>14903342 (OP) +neither he nor the irish of the time thought he was irish +--- 14903533 +>>14903486 +>It's not true even doe it most certainly is +'thetic +--- 14903660 +>>14903533 +No, fuck off. The average Englishman is dense as a rock +>but muh aryan übermensch Anglo-Normans n shiet +Pure meme, no substance +--- 14903682 +>>14903443 +>Is actually nafri +fixed +--- 14903693 +>>14903342 (OP) +'Irish' identity, nationality, ethnicity and their alleged culture were entirely an invention of the early 20th century. They're just another sub-unit of the United Kingdom, but with funnier accents and more of an alcohol problem than Scotland. +--- 14904474 +I never realized how much variety there actually was to civil war uniforms. +--- 14904491 +>>14903342 (OP) +Yeah at the time all of Ireland was part of Britain +--- 14904498 +>>14903342 (OP) +were completely braindead and incompetant and only won important battles because they had more money than the opponent half the time +--- 14904500 +the best italian tennis player right now is from south tirol diff --git a/his/14903387.txt b/his/14903387.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..327f061606313271916c5c81fd38477727713f33 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903387.txt @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +----- +--- 14903387 +How important was the annexation of Alsace-Lorraine after the Franco-Prussian War? +--- 14903471 +Single most defining event of a two century span. The most crucial strip of land in the world. +--- 14903481 +>>14903471 +Can you be serious? It wasn't that important. +--- 14903493 +Very important. It had major iron and coal mines in it and annexation made France's border less easy to defend. +--- 14903530 +>>14903493 +What role did it play in WW1? +--- 14903537 +>>14903387 (OP) +It was important because it poisoned Franco-German relations and ensured that France would be on the opposite side of any large war involving Germany. +--- 14903542 +>>14903537 +Wasn't France always fiercely anti-German? Ex. The 7 Years' War. +--- 14903622 +>>14903542 +France's only natural enemy is Germany, so yes, regardless of whether or not Germany annexed Elsass-Lothringen France would side against Germany in any major European war no matter what. +--- 14903747 +>>14903387 (OP) +It was important for German unification because the southern German states insisted on annexing it. They wanted a buffer between them and France. +--- 14903752 +>>14903747 +Ah that makes sense diff --git a/his/14903412.txt b/his/14903412.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4b30580d6cb98a2bc89c9a41da8308ea1b6e5ba0 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903412.txt @@ -0,0 +1,41 @@ +----- +--- 14903412 +>Leader of the world's foremost superpower assassinated by literal communist/sympathizer +>Nothing happened out of it +Why was there a little reaction from the America government? This assassination should be grounds for an invasion of Cuba just like 9/11 for the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. +>inb4 muh nukes +Cuba had removed their nukes back when the assassination happened +--- 14903421 +>>14903412 (OP) +because in the end it was just a lone nut with a mail order rifle, no matter what schizos tell you +--- 14903436 +>>14903421 +Keep drinking the slop, goy. +--- 14903457 +>>14903412 (OP) +Oswald wasn't a communist, he was a fucking glowie. +>This assassination should be grounds for an invasion of Cuba just like 9/11 for the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions +Clay Shaw, the man who ordered Lee Harvey Oswald to kill President John F. Kennedy, belonged to the precursor of the World Trade Centers Association (of the 9/11 Twin Towers), called Centro Mondiale Commerciale (better known as Permindex). +--- 14903465 +>>14903421 +The Warren Commission is available for public reading online. Here Dallas PD officer Roger D. Craig confirming that Oswald had a getaway driver, directly contradicting the "lone gunman" narrative. +--- 14903544 +>>14903412 (OP) +>Cuba had removed their nukes back when the assassination happened +It's hard to say how the USSR would've responded but the most reasonably drastic reaction to a U.S. invasion of Cuba would be to seize West Berlin. + +Oswald being both a "communist" and a "lone wolf" allowed the assassination to be blamed on the commies without necessitating any kind of military response, since after all, he was just operating on his lonesome. War is an extreme way to get what you want, it's usually better to get what you want short of war. If hardliners in the U.S. killed JFK because he wasn't tough enough on the commies, or because they worried he'd move toward reapproachment, it doesn't necessarily mean they wanted an actual war. +--- 14903778 +How do lone gunman proponents explain Jack Rubenstein assasinating Oswald? At the very least this is strong evidence of involvement by the Jewish mafia. The mafias connection to Zionism and Kennedys insistence on nuclear non proliferation focusing on Dimona provides another possible motive. Then there’s LBJ and the Texas oil magnates… A lot of people wanted Kennedy gone. I don’t profess to know what happened, but it seems to me anyone believing the lone gunman story is hopelessly naive. +--- 14903873 +>>14903778 +The Centro Mondiale Commerciale was founded by a Hungarian Jew named George Mandel who had deep connections with Israel and the Mossad. A primary shareholder in Permindex was the Banque De Credit International of Geneva, founded by Tibor Rosenbaum, an arms procurer and financier for the Mossad. That bank was used by Mafia Boss Meyer Lansky to launder hot money. The Chairman of the Board at Permindex was Louis Bloomfield, a Canadian Jew and close associate of Edgar Bronfman. His father Samuel Bronfman was a bootlegging partner of Lewis Rosenstiel and the Mafia during the Prohibition of Alcohol in US, his brother Charles Bronfman is one of the founders of the Mega Group, a coalition of Jewish billionaires with links to Mossad/CIA/MI6 and the Mafia syndicate led by Meyer Lansky, who who blackmailed J. Edgar Hoover and was a great contributor/agent of the ADL (less known as B'nai B'rith, but not as unknown as their fellow Knights of the Golden Circle, who are better known as the Ku Klux Klan). Edgar Bronfman also had long standing connections with the Rothschilds dating back before WWII. Les Wexner, another founding member of the Mega Group, donated his Manhattan mansion to Jeffrey Epstein, which became the center of his blackmail operations. +--- 14903915 +>>14903457 +>>14903873 +Clay Shaw, who was also said to have known Jack Ruby, was said to perform sadomasochistic rituals at his home. Following his arrest, his lavish residence was searched and police found a long black robe and hood along with whips, chains, and hooks affixed to the ceiling of one room, with what appeared to be faint impressions of bloody handprints. Shaw's maid told them that there was an incident. apparently covered up, where someone had been killed in the house. Shaw's address book was, curiously, filled with members of the European aristocracy, including a Princess Anne Jacqueline de Riquet de Caraman-Chimay. The Chimay family was implicated in Belgium's pedophile ring (Dutroux Affair), accused of organizing sick child-hunts on their vast estates. Dutroux Affair documents named Abrasax as the name of the highest cult order. + +Charles Manson proclaimed himself Abrasax. Manson was a member of the Process Church of the Final Judgment, which was incorporated into the US by Tommy Baumler, who was a defense witness of Clay Shaw during his trial in New Orleans, the same place where the Church of the Process was incorporated in the US before moving to California and the reopening of the investigation of the JFK Assassination by Jim Garrison against Clay Shaw took place. Manson also claimed that Roman Polanski and other Hollywood stars, who were also connected to Process Church, made Snuff Films and Child Pornography. The term "Snuff Films" btw comes from Ed Sanders' book "The Family: The Story of Charles Manson's Dune Buggy Attack Battalion". +--- 14903928 +>>14903915 +The Process Church of course had its roots in London, the global center of banking, intelligence, and arguably mind control, the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations outlining plans for "societry" - i .e. the methodologies developed in laboratories under programs like MK-ULTRA being applied to society as a whole. The Process was founded by Scientologists, who belonged to the British wing of the Church of Scientology founded by L. Ron Hubbard, who had been employed by the Office of Naval Intelligence and who was a disciple of Aleister Crowley, prominent English satanist and longtime MI6 agent. Some of Crowley's drug-fueled rituals were subsidized by CIA as part of MK-ULTRA. Hubbard had been involved with Crowley's Agape Lodge in the U.S., alongside rocket scientist Jack Parsons - a co-founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory as well as Aerojet. Parsons' team included Frank Malina whose son Roger married Ghislaine Maxwell's sister Christina, the Malinas owning a company that built FBI's counterterrorism database. Ghislaine Maxwell was allegedly photographed with JonBenet Ramsey, and is represented by Hal Haddon's law firm, which has represented John Ramsey since 1996. Haddon's firm also represented Hunter Thompson in a sexual assault case, Thompson being accused of involvement in snuff films by Paul Bonacci in the Franklin case (curiously, after Thompson's 'suicide' a friend of his said he'd once tried to show her a snuff film, and angrily threw her out of his house when she refused). The prosecutor who dropped charges against Hunter Thompson was Milton Blakely, who prosecuted Ted Bundy for the murder of Caryn Campbell despite evidence pointing to other suspects. Haddon had been the power behind Sen. Gary Hart's political career, Hart urging W. Bush to "use this disaster [9/11] to carry out ... a new world order" at a CFR meeting on Sep. 12, 2001. H.W. Bush, who was implicated in Franklin, announced the "new world order" on Sep. 11, 1990. diff --git a/his/14903472.txt b/his/14903472.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b7d2fdba1cca2b8ee744705e0f8a3c26f00d98bf --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903472.txt @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ +----- +--- 14903472 +Do the British really gravitate towards Islam because of their mental qualities, or is this an operation of the UK secret services to infiltrate the Islamic community? +--- 14903477 +>>14903472 (OP) +It's just glowies +--- 14903485 +Islam is alot more present in the UK than in the US. more % of population, more people in the street. eventually some bloke is gonna get curious and convert + +Muslims in US, generally keep their head down because we spy on them and have large groups of christians who hate them +--- 14903765 +>>14903472 (OP) +The latter +--- 14903790 +Timothy Winter's (Hakim Murad) lectures are amazing. True, neo-traditional Islam is beautiful and fit for the British soul. +--- 14904459 +>>14903585 +What ever happened to this guy? Remember watching a lot of videos of his antics in the early 2010s. Is he still a Muslim? +--- 14904497 +>>14903477 +This, Spycops revealed that like, pretty much all the Socialist orgs in the UK were literally run by Glowies. +Spycops court inquiry is only up to the 80s at the moment, but when it hits the post 9/11 era 00s in a few years it's going to be wild. +--- 14904830 +>>14904459 +https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2017/04/28/islamic-extremism-my-first-prison-sentence-only-cemented-my-ideology + +that is from 2017. can't find anything newer with him diff --git a/his/14903496.txt b/his/14903496.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9589e201edae04e6ce7c26b12cb7c0ca98ed2be5 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903496.txt @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +----- +--- 14904039 +>>14903496 (OP) +we already have philistines and they look like this so yes +--- 14904051 +>>14904039 +>we already have philistines and they look like this so yes +Do you have a g25 model with Pihilistines? +--- 14904072 +wow.... +--- 14904075 +>>14904051 +i'm on my phone, so no. The samples are from iron age ashkelon if you want to look yourself. +--- 14904083 +>>14904072 +so basically everything related to indians was done by nordic aryans? its over... +--- 14904088 +>>14904083 +yes, indians are a servant race, the whole caste system in india is based on aryan ancestry retention +--- 14904092 +>>14904088 +its over, so this is why dravidian hijra pygmies are locked into reservations? +--- 14904124 +>>14904092 +yes yes basically, all Intellectuals, warriors, leaders, philosophers, elites, etc of india were aryans, while all dalits and shudras the native aboriginal stone age hijras +--- 14904269 +>>14904051 +>>14903496 (OP) + +Yes, some look strongly northern Mediterranean. Philistine ancestry seems to range between mycenean like to anatolian like which is quite distinct from levantine north african. diff --git a/his/14903502.txt b/his/14903502.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..afe457f3b55a43a645263bde5902358c1add92e7 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903502.txt @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +----- +--- 14903502 +I'm not familiar with ancient Athenian polotics. +--- 14904631 +what fucking video at least link it you fag +do you expect me to telepathically know what you're talking about diff --git a/his/14903510.txt b/his/14903510.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ef7e12626da3a39fb603aba30105251d16d6be88 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903510.txt @@ -0,0 +1,45 @@ +----- +--- 14903510 +Can I go to confession if I only received baptism at birth? +I'm returning to Catholicism after a prolonged period of abstinence of life in general. + +Also should I simply say "masturbation" or can I use an euphemism? +--- 14903543 +>>14903510 (OP) +>Also should I simply say "masturbation" or can I use an euphemism? +"Masturbation" isn't a vulgar word. Just don't call it something like "whacking off" and you'll be fine. +--- 14903564 +Yes you should go to confession, technically you can also receive the Eucharist after confession since you're baptized, but the priest will probably explain to you the need for RCIA. +--- 14903567 +>>14903564 +>the need for RCIA. +In my parish we can bypass that if we have been baptized at birth but we have to take some office hours to show understanding of the theory. +--- 14903579 +>>14903510 (OP) +Yes. You cannot go to confession if you are unbaptised or excommunicated. +--- 14903580 +>>14903567 +i wish i had that option, i've read countless works from the fathers and the canons from the councils, i can't sit in a class again where some boomer tells me "God is love" and hell isn't real lol +--- 14903606 +>>14903580 +Well I live in a Catholic nation with Catholic holidays being national work free days so I guess it's different here because the whole culture is rooted in Catholicism. +--- 14903907 +>>14903580 +Offer it up +--- 14904129 +>>14903543 +i say "tickling my pickle" +--- 14904146 +>>14903510 (OP) +What is confession actually like? Do you actually admit that you jerk off too pornhub to some virgin priest? +I was fucked my girlfriend last night and licked her pussy before and after +Does that make me a sinner? +How would a priest react to that? +--- 14904196 +>>14904146 + +You can just say "I fornicated" +--- 14904208 +>>14904146 +>I was fucked my girlfriend last night and licked her pussy before and after +>and after diff --git a/his/14903514.txt b/his/14903514.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4edd6fc3b6c4b30acfd455af9d4c11d8305acbe8 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903514.txt @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +----- +--- 14903514 +All the Christianity prior to 1517 had bishops (who were ordained as bishops by a previous generation of bishops who were made bishops by the original 12 apostles). Whether it was in Europe, Africa, or Asia. Any form of "Christianity" without bishops is modern, unhistorical, and unbiblical. +--- 14903549 +All Christianity post 1517 has bishops too, the question is just what a bishop is. Catholics conceded the argument a century ago that the episcopate was an innovation in the early centuries of the church, the new testament and ante Nicene church being more like presbyterian and congregationalism. + +A majority of catholic priests cannot trace their episcopal lineage past the 1550s, ironically making protestant ordination more trustworthy in many cases. +--- 14903566 +>>14903549 +Based Dirk setting the record straight +--- 14903573 +>>14903549 + +Really who's the presiding bishop over the church in OP's picture? +--- 14903574 +>>14903549 + +Presbyter and priest are synonyms and mean the same thing. Regardless of what your cucked Sunday school teacher tried to teach you. +--- 14903578 +>>14903573 +I think Lakewood has a plurality of elders (pastors) +--- 14903583 +>>14903549 +Where can i read more about this? +--- 14903590 +>>14903583 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scipione_Rebiba?wprov=sfla1 +--- 14903597 +>>14903590 +Thanks Dirk. I kinda been absent from /his/ for a long time. Whats the story behind you? +--- 14903611 +>>14903597 +I'm just a guy +--- 14903671 +>>14903549 +Just rereading the article on bishop rebiba, it's not simply a majority, it's 95% of living bishops and every pope since innocent xii (d. 1700) +--- 14903677 +>>14903671 +Why is it so hard to find out who consecrated the guy, shouldn't there be records somewhere? +--- 14903681 +>>14903677 +It was never recorded or it was lost +If you're conspiracy minded maybe he was an illegitimate political appointment and bypassed the legal methods +--- 14903688 +>>14903549 + +In the New Testament. Presbyteros = Catholic priest and Episkopos = Catholic bishop. +--- 14903704 +>>14903688 +That's not a translation and your image is tacky +--- 14903712 +>>14903704 + +>protcuck criticizing other people's art. + +i kek'd. +--- 14904348 +>>14903677 +>>14903681 +There was a fire at the place that held his papers. To consecrate other bishops you need two other bishops with you. He worked directly with the Pope, led the Inquisition and did plenty of other cool shit that makes clear that he was actually a bishop. +Also you can trace the other two bishops that participated in his ordinations, he couldn't just have gone around making people bishops lmao. It's just his particular document that has been lost, not his credibility. +--- 14904424 +>>14903681 +>>14903677 +Adding onto this, up until around the 1100s there was no ritual done at all for most Bishops, they were just accepted as a Bishop by someone else. There was no training or special induction needed, you just needed some other Bishop to say you were one now. Most Bishops were thus either given their authority by buying the position, being elect to the position by secular nobility, or being granted it as a reward for military service. + +As an example, the Danish chronicler Saxo Grammaticus was a soldier who fought for Absalon, who was himself a nobleman that was elected, by secular nobility, to the position of Bishop of Roskilde due to his promises to form an army to go raid the Wends (Slavic tribes to the east). This position may have been granted to him by his father (Absalon's father Asser Rig may or may not be the Bishop Asser who transfered the ownership of the Bishopric to Absalon). Absalon then promised the Pope that he would purge Denmark of Greek Orthodox influence, and as such his uncle (the Bishop of Lund) transferred the Bishopric of Lund to him (the Pope made a special allowance for this due to Absalon's attacks on the Greek Orthodox, as normally you're only allowed to own one Bishophric). + +At no point was Absalon given any kind of special training or ritual investment, all of these transfers were done via letters. + +>>14904348 +>he couldn't just have gone around making people bishops lmao +Yes, he could, and people did. This was a huge problem up until like, the 1500s. The entire reason that the Catholic Church practices clerical celibacy is because Priests would just declare their children to be bishops and deacons and then bequeath them church property. +--- 14904818 +The Bishops and Clergy stole the power from the original Christians just to become the new priest class of the old Polytheistic religions. Christianity is founded on the poor, downtrodden, whores and lepers uniting as one, then suddenly these guys show up say "actually you have to respect me and my pointy hat and gibs me lots of money and build me large Gold Houses and I have political authority over you btw" and that's how we got kings subscribing to a specifically anti-king anti-imperial religion. Catholicism was an immediate bastardization of the religion by just taking the old model and shoving it into Christianity. There's a reason the original "Priests" were just guys who went ascetic in the desert. +--- 14904828 +>>14903712 +Protestant art mogs diff --git a/his/14903594.txt b/his/14903594.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ded06a0946953300834025fd2ca98ea8bda90fe5 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903594.txt @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +----- +--- 14903594 +>Homo Sapiens is roughly 200k years old +>history we know about so far go from 10k approximately from where we go from throwing stones to send robots to Mars +the other 190k? +--- 14903608 +The other 190k is strong grug kills weak grug and takes his wife as a sex slave +--- 14903624 +>>14903608 +In 190k he commits suicide because of guilt +--- 14903630 +>>14903594 (OP) +Things were happening; we just didn't write any of it down. +--- 14903651 +>>14903630 +We did. Ever heard of cave paintings? +--- 14903654 +>>14903594 (OP) +>the other 190k? +Spent on developing adequate mental faculties for civilization and waiting out the ice age +--- 14903665 +imagine being the first guy to swing his fist real hard +I doubt boxing was always instinctual, rather than tearing at each other like animals, the fist fight era must’ve been insane +--- 14903675 +A lot of that 190k was spent on developing tools, domestication of animals, and agriculture, you need big food surpluses before you can start having things like full-time scientists making robots and sending people to the moon. +--- 14903684 +>>14903594 (OP) +No it is not +--- 14903733 +>>14903594 (OP) +Let me guess the universe the Earth and the continents are trillions of years old or something and the only proof for that is what some crooks thought would take for the so-called geological events to take place +--- 14903788 +>>14903594 (OP) +There was at least a bronze-age tier civilization once that was a nearly global empire. Then the younger dryas happened and the world returned to Grug-tier, slowly crawling back over the last 10k years. +--- 14903817 +>>14903684 +>>14903733 +Imagine posting shit like this on a history board. +--- 14903837 +>>14903788 +Based and Hancock-pilled. +--- 14903862 +>>14903817 +History is fake. No reliable records from before JFK survive. +--- 14903868 +>>14903654 +>mental faculties +as evolving the brain you mean? or setting the though and its process right? +--- 14903871 +>>14903862 +Yeah I only trust JFK and the KJV. +--- 14903927 +>>14903594 (OP) +>>14903868 +why do you keep asking this question >>14903654 is the answer + +this is what an "Egyptian" looked like 35000 years ago, the real answer should be obvious to anyone who has lurked on 4chan long enough +--- 14903932 +>>14903594 (OP) +People in power didnt care about collecting and preserving knowledge until the last 2k years. Nothing makes me rage like each incidence of some leader being anti-reading or anti-book/scroll and burning a shitload of texts because he saw the scholar class as a threat to his power. What did we lose at Timbuktu or Alexandria? +--- 14903938 +>>14903594 (OP) (OP) +>>14903868 +and here's a map of the climate before the ice age ended (last glacial period) around 9700 BC, as you can see the climate was bad for agriculture, as a result human populations were low and mostly nomadic hunter gatherers that didn't have the ability to build civilizations +--- 14903955 +>>14903932 +>Timbuktu +things already stored in other islamic libraries + +>Alexandria +tomes of greek plays, maybe some more detailed accounts of history and technology but nothing hugely significant + +>WHAT ABOUT HECKIN' ATLANTISAROO +a myth loosely based on akrotiri +--- 14903963 +>>14903594 (OP) +> the other 190k? + +Why didn’t ze jew in ze sky send his magic son during that time? +--- 14903986 +There's no reason to believe that civilizations didn't exist during the other gorillion years and then just collapsed. I believe humans have lived on earth for millions if not billions of years but regular catastrophes prevented them the mantainment of their technological and societal advances. It is even possible that there are colonies of humans on other planets and the contact to them was lost because of collapse. +--- 14904171 +>>14903938 +>meds +>forest steppe +seems just nice? diff --git a/his/14903616.txt b/his/14903616.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1de69dda819d137727e925b516e225883baaec8f --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903616.txt @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +----- +--- 14903616 +People making a big deal out of homo sapien "chins" miss the obvious. A chin is simply the bone projection remaining after a reduction in the Maxilla and Mandible. +--- 14903619 +Missing from this gif is the reduction in skull length, shown here. +--- 14903690 +>>14903616 (OP) +Nowhere near enough. It's sort of like if the face didn't fully grow and push forward. +--- 14903695 +Also the prefrontal cortex gets squished as the result, it was proportionally much longer on erectus. +--- 14904306 +>>14903690 +Nah I stand by my statement. The morphologcal human canvas is made clear by simple reductions in brow ridge and Jaw and a general trim of bone mass in the skull and nose. +--- 14904401 +>>14904306 +I agree that the chin is just an artifact, I mean you didn't reduce it anywhere near enough, it's far more dramatic than your gif suggests. Note the UA 31 above had 995 ccm brain volume, near the bottom end of normal modern human range. +--- 14904421 +>>14904401 +Total size of the brain and volume in general is not taken into account here, that can increase or decrease regardless. Neither are exact proportions taken into account. All my edits show is a possibility and I think most likely way human faces formed. Obviously my 5 min edits aren't flawless but the canvas is there. +--- 14904432 +Neotenization came far later and mostly resulted from self-domestication, not ancient admixture lol. +--- 14904505 +>>14904432 +Initial Neotenization a is pre-Erectus event. It then happened several times more. +--- 14904525 +>>14904432 +Neoteny might be the key for the human brain growth mystery. +--- 14904530 +My grandpa wasn't a fish +--- 14904540 +>>14904530 +No, but he was an amphibian. Your dad a reptile and your great grandpa a lobe-finned fish. +--- 14904584 +>>14904421 +I mean the brain case isn't that much smaller than in a typical modern person, you also need to create the forehead. +>>14904432 +>self-domestication +How would it happen? It doesn't seem to be possible, or even make sense. +>>14904432 +>>14904505 +>>14904525 +East Asians are said to be more neotenous, but their faces are bigger. +--- 14904591 +>>14903616 (OP) +>People making a big deal out of homo sapien "chins +--- 14904597 +>>14903616 (OP) +>>14903619 +Source of these skulls? Thus seems to be Jebel irhoud not Homo Erectus. Homo erectus skulls looked like apes +--- 14904602 +>>14904597 +--- 14904608 +>>14904602 +>>14904597 +--- 14904617 +>>14904597 +h +--- 14904628 +>>14904617 +--- 14904634 +>>14904628 +--- 14904896 +>>14904634 +>>14903619 +--- 14904900 +>>14904306 +>>14903741 +>>14903690 +What studies are these from? +--- 14904907 +>>14904634 +--- 14904912 +>>14904907 +--- 14904915 +>>14904900 +>>14904896 +>>14904634 +>>14904628 +>>14904617 +>>14904608 +>>14904602 +>>14904597 +--- 14904920 +>>14904896 +>>14904634 +>>14904628 +--- 14904925 +>>14904920 +>>14904915 +--- 14904928 +>>14904915 +You will never be med. +--- 14904933 +>>14904920 +>>14904925 +>>14904915 +--- 14904937 +>>14904912 +>File: 626cb1ff3aef49503173dd6c8(...).jpg (33 KB, 460x600) +--- 14904945 +>>14904937 +--- 14904948 +>>14904933 +Why did you post a brazilian? +--- 14904949 +>>14904945 +>>14904327 diff --git a/his/14903652.txt b/his/14903652.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f2634f7e52b0ddacaae4d0bf4fa6aa6e39997039 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903652.txt @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +----- +--- 14903652 +is it a celtic or germanic nation? +--- 14903669 +>>14903652 (OP) +Mostly celtic +--- 14903679 +Jabawockiez nashun famz nigga +--- 14903764 +>>14903652 (OP) +Honorary Germanics like the Finns +--- 14903774 +>>14903669 +Pic unrel +--- 14903962 +>>14903652 (OP) +Germanic. +With a Celtic language spoken by a tiny amount of people. +Not Celtic because Celts came from continental Europe. +Their supposed 'Celtic' ancestry derives from their insular Bell Beaker-descended ancestors. +--- 14904022 +>>14903962 +proof? +modern scots identify as celtic +--- 14904077 +>>14903652 (OP) +African +https://youtu.be/han3AfjH210 [Embed] +--- 14904089 +>>14903652 (OP) +African Subcontinental Afro-Caribbean Hong Konger mix. +--- 14904434 +>>14903774 +Pic rel +--- 14904448 +>>14903652 (OP) +It's neither, just another anglo-rapebaby nation. +--- 14904477 +>>14904022 +>modern scots identify as celtic + +how heckin valid of them diff --git a/his/14903668.txt b/his/14903668.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..78a1e72bc2357b6d78a330ef5cfe7086cffd840e --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903668.txt @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +----- +--- 14903668 +They sure dont built them like they used to anymore huh? +--- 14903715 +Roads are still done this way but thicker and paved over because trucks +--- 14903773 +>>14903668 (OP) +you ain't never seen a road under construction? fucking double gorilla nigger. slide thread diff --git a/his/14903720.txt b/his/14903720.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..413ed9baa1862075de82d5735f416684dd641d15 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903720.txt @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +----- +--- 14903720 +>N-No! Why doesn’t this Omnipotent deity make sense?! Muh immovable rock! +--- 14903901 +I have reached Gnosis. +--- 14904308 +>>14903720 (OP) +I don't know what the christians where thinking but that's not a trinity diff --git a/his/14903737.txt b/his/14903737.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..efaa5587d7337d3490576fcd8ee0cd43878088a2 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903737.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1022 @@ +----- +--- 14903737 +No matter your political stance, there is no historical reason for Taiwan to be separated from mainland China +--- 14903755 +>>14903737 (OP) +sneed +--- 14903771 +>>14903737 (OP) +I agree. The communist bandits occupying the mainland should surrender unconditionally and hand power over to the KMT. +--- 14903804 +>>14903771 +Why should they do that? +--- 14903812 +>>14903771 +What makes the Communist victory in the Chinese Civil War any different from any other civil war? +--- 14903824 +>>14903812 +Nothing. The KMT seized power through violence from the legitimate ROC government in Beijing in the same way. +--- 14903834 +>>14903737 (OP) +>there is no historical reason for Taiwan to be separated from mainland China +Yes there is. It's called a fucking sea. +--- 14903874 +>>14903737 (OP) +>no historical reason for Taiwan to be separated from mainland China +But there is. The commies failed to take it. That is literally the historical reason. +--- 14903897 +>>14903812 +Communists are illegitimate as an ideology and shouldn’t be honored or respected +--- 14903903 +>>14903737 (OP) +>there is no historical reason for Taiwan to be separated from mainland China +Not even Alfred Wegener's theory of Continental Drift? +--- 14903905 +>>14903897 +I literally said in the beginning of the post "No matter your political stance" +--- 14903912 +>>14903903 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1-cES1Ekto&pp=ygUSYWxmcmVkIHdhZ25lciBzb25n [Embed] +--- 14903916 +>>14903905 +Ok, then the bandits occupying the mainland should surrender to the Republic of China +--- 14903918 +>>14903916 +But these "bandits" won the Civil War +--- 14903989 +>>14903916 +The Japanese controlled bandits occupying Taiwan should surrender to Beijing or eat Chinese ordinance +--- 14903993 +Taiwan should be returned to the Japanese desu +--- 14903997 +>>14903989 +>The Japanese controlled bandits occupying Taiwan +cope +--- 14903998 +>>14903737 (OP) +>historical reason +beyond that fact they lost control of it in 1895, only had it "returned" because the US curbstomped the Japanese, and the fact that government in the mainland never once had any presence on the island? +not to mention the fact that historically the first organized polity to control the island were European colonizers particularly the Dutch. Koxinga took the island from them because he needed a holdout against the Qing, and the Qing seriously debated just abandoning the island entirely after the wiped out the Ming loyalists holding it (and in any case they forced most Han Chinese to leave), they only kept it for fear of the same situation happening again. from there it was an irrelevant backwater that didn't even warrant being its own province - until fears about European encroachment in the 19th century led to that. +>b-but muh ethnically Chinese population +as retarded as a Brit claiming there's no Historical reason for America to be separated from the UK +--- 14904010 +>>14903918 +The war is ongoing, the Republic of China never surrendered + +>>14903989 +>MUH NIPPONESE + +Not an argument. +--- 14904017 +>>14903737 (OP) +>there is no historical reason for Taiwan to be separated from mainland China +I can think of one +--- 14904020 +>>14904017 +KMT lost. Rule of the strong. +--- 14904025 +>>14903998 +>were European colonizers particularly the Dutch. + +The Dutch were literally ordered to go there by Ming China after the Ming defeated the Dutch in the Pescadores Penghu islands in 1624. Before that Chinese pirates and seasonal traders regularly inhabited the southwest part of Taiwan and the Ming launched an expedition against the pirates before ordering the Dutch there + +>Qing seriously debated just abandoning the island entirely after the wiped out the Ming loyalists holding it + +Nobody was wiped out in 1683, Zheng Keshuang surrendered after ghe naval battle of the pescadores with Shi Lang and everyone was spared. + +Han banner commander Shi Lang and his Han navy led the fighting on the Qing side. Manchu bannermrn and officers didn't even know how to use boats. + +Han banner commander Shi Lang countermanded Manchu officials and the Kangxu Emperor who wanted towithdraw. Shi Lang had Taiwan annexed as a prefecture of Fujian. +--- 14904028 +>>14903737 (OP) +Tectonic plates made it separate from the mainland you retard. +--- 14904034 +Esl Chinks/Taiwanigs arguing in this thread now. Thanks retards. The yellow hordes have arrived. + +Nobody cares who owns you. +--- 14904041 +>>14904020 +>KMT lost + +Then why is the Republic of China free? +--- 14904042 +No matter your political stance, there is no historical reason for mainland China to be separated from the Republic of China. +--- 14904047 +>>14904041 +Cause of US interference +--- 14904050 +>>14904041 +when your entire economy is focused around making microprocessors for fat Walmart nation and you are stuck on a giant rock you are not "free" +--- 14904054 +>>14904020 +>Rule of the strong +Taiwan is free. Rule of the strong. +--- 14904061 +>>14904054 +>claims to be the legitimate government of China +>only owns 1 island + +Rule of the strong +--- 14904073 +>>14904061 +>only owns 1 island +Objectively incorrect. In any case, you're arguing that there's no reason for Taiwan to be independent, not that they aren't the government of mainland China. +--- 14904076 +>>14904042 +Based and true + +>>14904047 +Based America guaranteeing the sovereignty of free, democratic republics + +Ya gotta love it + +>>14904050 +>you can’t have a technology driven economy becaus of uhhhhh f-fat people or something + +Mainland malnutrition really has rotted your brain huh? +--- 14904093 +>>14904061 +ROC are the only ones trying to fulfil the vision of Sun Yat-sen, they have the mandate of heaven and are destined to occupy all of mainland China once the PRC collapses due to internal unrest. +--- 14904098 +>>14904093 +these borders are kino +--- 14904101 +>>14904076 +exactly +--- 14904106 +>>14904076 +>he buys into democracy meme + +Read Siege +--- 14904108 +>>14904093 +the PRC also claim Sun Yat-Sen's heritage too +--- 14904114 +>>14903737 (OP) +negative IQ take +--- 14904121 +>>14904106 +Glow harder +--- 14904125 +>>14904076 +uh oh american democracy bros, how do we explain this one? + +https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf +--- 14904159 +>>14904125 +What's the problem with that? Letting the unwashed masses dictate the nation's policy is not the hallmark of a superior system. +--- 14904161 +>>14904106 +I don’t love democracy but it’s superior to communism + +>>14904125 +>commie apologist complaining about elite control +--- 14904195 +You dont reason with communists OP. + +This is how China will look like when the war is won. +--- 14904214 +>>14904195 +> nothing of value was lost. +It's as if the US lost the Sino-American War and somehow ended up with independent Puerto Rico, Alaska and, I don't know, Utah. +--- 14904232 +>>14904195 +How do you expect a war to be won against a nuclear power? Do you seriously think having a nuclear war is worth this? +--- 14904251 +>>14904232 +>can’t win through diplomacy +>can’t win a conventional war +>spergs out and starts threatening nuclear warfare + +Why are communists so pathetic and evil? +--- 14904263 +>>14904195 +>Chinese heartland united with Taiwan +>minorities get their small countries +based +--- 14904271 +>>14904251 +what kind of diplomacy do you think is going to cause that map. sorry but "communism bad becuz america free china 1984 6 gorillion mudslimes no iphone" isnt gonna work +--- 14904272 +>>14904195 +>Hong Kong and Macau not restored +>Taiwan gets Chonged + +Why? +--- 14904273 +>>14904265 +Yes China is a dystopia which puts minorities such as Muslims and Faulan Gong in concentration camps. We all know this. +--- 14904274 +>>14903771 +Based +--- 14904278 +>>14904271 +Dilate +--- 14904282 +>>14904273 +Mongols are oppressed too +--- 14904286 +>>14904278 +not an argument +--- 14904289 +>>14904286 +I'm not interested in arguing with you. +--- 14904322 +>>14904272 +Hong Kong and Macau and Taipei would be perfectly fine united with a democratic China. The only reason they want to be seperated today is largely because of communists, nothing more. + +And its a perfectly justified reason. +--- 14904324 +>>14904289 +not sure why you would keep replying then. you can always just close the tab +--- 14904339 +>>14904232 + +I'm going to assume China will start the war when they try to take Taiwan. +By then its up to them wether nuclear weapons will be used or not, because America will defeat them with conventional arms. + +Obviously that map cannot be achieved through military means. It has to come from the local population, with a little bit of help from a collapsing state who picked the wrong fight. +The CCP knows that the real threat is internal, and the moment the economy goes down, people will begin to question their authority. +--- 14904362 +>>14904214 + +USA losing a world war would probably be equally fun. I expect a lot of bad blood is going to come out across the country. +--- 14904384 +>>14904232 +we can win a nuclear war and they know this, this is why they haven't started anything, now all we have to do is sit back and wait for them to collapse like the soviet union +--- 14904400 +Reminder that Independence in Taiwan polls at a whopping, overwhelming 5%. +China is a civilizational culture and Taiwanese see themselves as Chinese. The whole "Independence" shit of late is pushed on them by the West, most Taiwanese support the status quo. +>>14904322 +Again, Independence doesn't poll jack shit in Hong Kong. It's another thing pushed by selective Western Reporting, like pretending that China had some insane massive crackdown in Hong Kong with insane police brutality when the only deaths were like few Hong Kong protestors getting killed by other Protestors. +>>14903737 (OP) +Pretty much, 2c1s is the obvious future for this conflict, but doesn't play into Western geopolitical interests of containment. +--- 14904406 +>>14904093 +>East Turkestan +wow, another ISIS ruled by insane islamic extremists, what a glorious vision for the future. +--- 14904412 +>>14904400 +>most Taiwanese support the status quo. +Which is de facto independence, retard. +--- 14904415 +>>14903771 +/thread +>>14903812 +Nothing I just really fucking hate communists. +--- 14904463 +>>14904384 +theres no winners in nuclear war +--- 14904478 +>>14904362 +>New Afrika +There is no way that wouldn't be called Wakanda. +--- 14904479 +>>14904412 +Is that why the opposition party in Taiwan pushes for independence? +--- 14904483 +>>14904412 +Defacto, but they are still Chinese, not Taiwanese. Independnece would have to mean they give up completely their claim they're Chinese, which as a civilizational people, they won't do. +--- 14904487 +>>14904483 +>as a civilizational people + +What did he mean by this? +--- 14904490 +>>14904479 +>opposition party +>independence +Holy shit you know nothing about Taiwan or politics, retard. +--- 14904504 +>>14904490 +nothing in that reply had any meaning. just 2 insults. i honestly cant tell anymore if youre baiting or genuinely retarded +--- 14904507 +>>14904400 +>>14904483 +It has nothing to do with "civilizational". People in Taiwan are the same ethnicities as those in mainland except for 2% Aboriginals and Taiwan was legally a province of China. +--- 14904509 +>>14904479 +>DPP +>opposition +?? +they've been in power since 2016 retard and while they have a formally declare independence wing most of them are fine with the status quo +meanwhile if you look at notions of Taiwanese identity the proportion who identify as solely Taiwanese has soared to nearly 2/3 from less than 1/5 in 92, the proportion who identify as both Chinese and Taiwanese went down from nearly half to a third, and the proportion who identified as solely Chinese went from 1 in 4 to less than 3%. +>>14904504 +>idiot who fails at the most basic knowledge of political parties and the current political situation in Taiwan calling others retarded +pottery +--- 14904510 +>>14904504 +I think his point was that the KMT is in opposition now. +--- 14904515 +>>14904487 +China is considered a civilizational state, as it's had a continious chinese identity for thousands of years, even when people conquered China, they larped as Chinese, even other states around them like the Koreans and Vietnamese larped as Chinese for most of their history. +This is the same with say, Egypt, which is considered another Civilizational state. +--- 14904522 +>>14904507 +>muh ethnicity +means literally nothing lmao and neither does muh civilization +both of these could apply to the British/American split in the early period, hell you still have the term Anglo-American for lots of stuff due to their similarities. +--- 14904526 +>>14904195 +All of these new countries you plan on creating have been majority ethnic Han for 100 years or more. It's too late. You think people are going to trade American style plutocratic "democracy" for their own homes? It's simply unrealistic, like believing you could turn Yakutia into an actual Yakut state when they're less than 30% of the population. +--- 14904527 +taiwanbots going crazy this thread +--- 14904539 +>>14904515 +Wrong. China is a legal entity and identity. + +Non-Han dynasties are legally China because they were conquered enslaved and raped by Han people and subjects of Han dynasties before they revolted. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12244603/#q12258189 +--- 14904552 +>>14904504 +At least familiarize yourself with Taiwan before making these retarded posts chinkbot. +--- 14904559 +>>14904522 +And yet, them being the same civilisation doesn't necessarily create the idea that they HAVE to be the same state. This is Germ-tier autism. + +And not even Changoids really believe it which is why they don't for example demand Singapore be united with China, even though it has a similar history as Taiwan (Austronesian natives, colonised by Europeans who brought in a massive Chinese labour force). + +The real reasons why Beijing wants Taiwan are simple: they want complete victory in their Civil War, they want to break out of the island chain, they don't want mutts and Japs to have such close access to spy on or potentially threaten China, and also they see the balance of power is overwhelmingly in their favour now so they are more and more tempted to do it and think it might even be possible to do it semi-peacefully through threats and bribery, much like how they got Hong Kong. That's it. +--- 14904560 +>>14904339 +>The CCP knows that the real threat is internal, and the moment the economy goes down, people will begin to question their authority. +Their authority is unprecedented. Historically, in any polity, but especially in China, you need time to build momentum. Mass movements become quite large- their weakness is in that they are public and only thrive in decentralized or crumbling states. The greatest communist, and really, Hegelian "end of history" achievement in China, has been the omniscient surveillance state. The state as superorganism has shackled all its constituents in a perfect, enforced harmony. They will never collapse. Eventually they will overrun the Amerilards and expand their dominion there, along with everywhere else. The future of the earth and the human race is in the Chinese system, which will come to encompass all human biomass and infrastructure in a singular fusion. +--- 14904568 +>>14904400 +> Reminder that Independence in Taiwan polls at a whopping, overwhelming 5%. + +Reminder that the rest of Taiwan wants to join with the mainland…. under the ROC government lmao +--- 14904573 +>>14904509 +>meanwhile if you look at notions of Taiwanese identity the proportion who identify as solely Taiwanese has soared to nearly 2/3 from less than 1/5 in 92, the proportion who identify as both Chinese and Taiwanese went down from nearly half to a third, and the proportion who identified as solely Chinese went from 1 in 4 to less than 3%. +Uncritically repeating CIA boilerplate. +--- 14904575 +>>14904400 +>>14904483 +>>14904479 + +Communist insect typed this. + +1. Taiwanese see themselves as seperate from mainlanders to the point that they have developed their own identity. This is mostly because mainlanders are literal drones and ruled by a bandit state. + +2. Hong Kong young generation overwhelmingly favors NO political ties with China because Fuck Communism. The only ones that support unification are the old parents who mostly just want economic prosperity and stability and ready to sacrefice freedom of everyone for that purpose. +The other two groups are major coroporations (for the same reason) and Chinese infiltrators. +I've lived in Hong Kong for a couple of years, I know this shit is true. +The only reason Hong Kong protests stopped was because China had their way and people dont want to go to prison for life. +--- 14904580 +>MUH CIA + +we’re hitting all the commucuck mental breakdown notes here +--- 14904582 +>>14904559 +>even though it has a similar history as Taiwan (Austronesian natives, colonised by Europeans who brought in a massive Chinese labour force). +I will say in fairness to the Chink nationalists that unlike Singapore the Qing dynasty genuinely did control Taiwan for several centuries, even if it was an irrelevant backwater and they actually only truly controlled the western half of the island. +doesn't make any of their nonsense any less retarded of course. +--- 14904586 +>>14904568 +The majority of the mainland probably wants to join with Taiwan under the ROC government too +--- 14904588 +>>14904573 +>CIA +it's a poll done by part of National Chengchi University in Taiwan they've done since 1992 +but I'm sure next you'll tell me how that poll is fake while the supposed polls results about independence are right because reasons lmao +--- 14904594 +>>14903998 +Exactly. Taiwan should be given to the Dutch if anything. +--- 14904603 +So in the end there's two political factions in the Republic of China: + +1. Maintain independence +2. Rejoin the mainland under the ROC government + +Literally no one wants to submit to the gongfei +--- 14904621 +>>14903998 +>>14904594 +>>14904025 +Koxinga (Zheng Chenggong's) male line descendants live in both Taiwan (via Zheng Kuan) and mainland China. + +The fact that you made such retarded errors like claiming they were all wiped out means you have no idea what you are talking about. + +The Qing even sent the Zheng family's rattan shield soldiers to destroy Cossacks at Albazin during the war with the Tsardom of Russia. + +Literally no one was killed or harmed in Taiwan during the Qing annexation and handover from Southern Ming. +--- 14904633 +>>14904559 +Chinese with in both Taiwan and Singapore before Europeans. The peranakan Chinese in Malaysia and Singapore predate Europeans. The Ming treasure voyages through SEA predate European presence. + +Chinese pirates and merchants operated in southwest Taiwan before the Ming ordered the Dutch to go there in 1624. + +The difference is that Taiwan was legally annexed by the southern Ming in 1662 and Singapore was not. + +Chinese were in the Philippines before Spain came. + +Chinese defeated the Dutch multiple times as well as Portuguese in Tamao and Veniaga and killing Spanish governors. They didn't need European boats to get anywhere. +--- 14904638 +>>14904588 + +Nice try chang. Time to leave Brisbane and fuck off back to ching chong river valley to grow some rice for big brother. +--- 14904640 +>>14904638 +am I being memed? or are you assuming I'm the retard who claimed Taiwanese didn't support formal or de facto independence? because I'm not. +--- 14904641 +>>14904633 +those Chinese victories sure were something... +--- 14904648 +>>14904559 +>they want to break out of the island chain, they don't + +False, if China wanted Taiwan to break out of the island chain it would be far easier for China to support separatists in the Philippines and destroy them instead. +--- 14904650 +>>14904588 +>National Chengchi University +>Chingchong university isn't funded by Americans +It's the historical administrative educational centre in the country. What are you talking about? Of course they receive massive influence from abroad. Civil servant factories like this are one of the ways that America maintains its empire. Next you're going to tell me key universities in Latin America or SEA are beyond reproach and untouched by American meddling. Get lost yellow monkey/fat burger. I'm arguing about facts here, not acknowledging your humanity. +--- 14904651 +>>14904641 +12,500 dead of disease and starvation + +I didn't know Dutch people were diseases +--- 14904652 +>>14904195 +fuck t*bet fuck muzzie pigs +--- 14904659 +>>14903737 (OP) +Being strong is never wrong, if China was strong, it'd have Taiwan. Simple as. +--- 14904660 +>>14903997 +are you implying the DPP aren't nip stooges? iwasato masao pretended to be "lee teng hui" to destroy the KMT from within. today's taiwan is his taiwan, has nothing to do with chiang anymore +--- 14904661 +>>14904641 +>>14904651 +--- 14904664 +>>14904093 +>ROC are the only ones trying to fulfil the vision of Sun Yat-sen +loser +sun yat sen never fought in the revolution, others did it and he sat by and watched +he was asleep in an american hotel when the wuchang uprising started +--- 14904666 +>>14904641 +>>14904651 +>>14904661 +Portuguese assraping numerically superior Japanese who tried to ambush them by surprise. +--- 14904667 +>>14904651 +Damn, the Chinese had 150 ships while Dutch 59 and they barely won? That's some martial prowess right there... +--- 14904670 +>>14904659 +good, lets keep this in mind when taiwan is either integrated or destroyed in the next decade +--- 14904672 +>>14904603 +>Literally no one wants to +too bad it doesn't matter what losers want +--- 14904674 +>>14903737 (OP) +Taiwan doesn't belong to China +Falklands doesn't belong to Argentina +--- 14904675 +>>14904641 +>>14904651 +>>14904661 +>>14904666 +Chinese were the only people to defeat Portugal (the Portuguese attacked first and were openly giving warnings by the Chinese not to proceed). + +You can't use the excuse of being outnumbered since the Portuguese slaughtered Japanese and Arabs who outnumbered them and Chinese were the only people who defeated them and gave them warnings before battle. +--- 14904676 +>>14904650 +>EVERY SOURCE THAT ISN"T COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA IS A CONSPIRACY + +meds + +>>14904652 +fuck commies most of all, I hope East Tukmenistan nationalists jihad more chicoms +--- 14904677 +>>14904651 +Well being Chinese is a disease so... +--- 14904681 +>>14904676 +>I hope East Tukmenistan nationalists jihad more chicoms +they haven't successfully allahu ACK-bar'd since 2014, guess why +--- 14904684 +>>14904641 +>>14904651 +>>14904661 +>>14904666 +>>14904667 +The Dutch and Portuguese humiliated Japanese and others with the same ratio of being outnumbered, Japan begged the Dutch to protect them from Spain. + +China was the only country that defeated and captured European ships. +--- 14904685 +>>14904672 +Yeah it doesn't matter that seething mainland losers will NEVER EVER occupy Taiwan with their red bandit hordes +--- 14904686 +>>14904677 +says the subhuman vermin filth. your kind should be deloused +--- 14904691 +>>14904685 +>lose the entire mainland +>at least we have this island! +what happens when you lose the island too? will you all jump into the ocean? well the japs already control taiwan anyway with the DPP, couldn't even keep power in a tiny island, sad +--- 14904695 +>>14904684 +I mean the ratio is like 50 to 1 here...can you really be proud of that? +--- 14904696 +KMT has already submitted to CCP. reunification with the mainland is only a matter of time, not debate +--- 14904697 +All Communists should be exterminated on sight without trial. McCarthy did nothing wrong. +--- 14904698 +>>14904686 +One day we'll find a cure for being Chinese. +--- 14904704 +>>14904698 +before that we'll exterminate your filthy race from this earth +--- 14904705 +Most of the island does not even speak Mandarin Chinese as a first language, they only learn it out of necessity. Also the commies had their chance to grab it, instead they went all-in on Korea and squandered all their military strength, hence being eternally cucked out of Taiwan to this day. +--- 14904709 +>>14904704 +Wow, rude much? +--- 14904710 +>>14904705 +having north korea as a buffer is just as important as having taiwan, if not moreso. as mao said, taiwan can be put off for 100 years if need be, but korea was an immediate security concern +--- 14904716 +>>14904709 +do you expect me to be polite to subhumans? you have to understand that you are worthless dross, you contribute nothing to this world, your existence is a blight +--- 14904719 +>>14904710 +>>having north korea as a buffer is just as important as having taiwan, if not moreso +Paranoid tankie logic, I guess. +>nooo we need this blasted, barren wasteland ruled by a tinpot dictator because otherwise they could roll tanks into China at any time, which they are definitely going to do, those fucking war-mongering Koreans have always been planning to invade China! +--- 14904721 +>>14904691 +>w-we'll take the ROC +>t-two more weeks + +Never happening commie loser, ROC is gonna be free forever + +>>14904697 +Based, communists don't respect the laws and institutions of our nations so we shouldn't grant them any rights to exist +--- 14904722 +>>14904716 +I'm not Chinese so none of that hits home. +--- 14904727 +>>14904719 +>those fucking war-mongering Koreans have always been planning to invade China! +no, koreans have never done anything important in their history. but if america controlled it they would use it as a springboard to invade china, just as japan did. qing china sat by and did nothing as japan controlled korea. the communists obviously weren't going to repeat their predecessor's indolence. that is what separates the communist party from every failed regime that preceded it +--- 14904731 +>>14904721 +>ROC is gonna be free forever +it already doesn't exist. it's more of a japanese province right now. actual KMT (nationalists) are returning to the mainland. you obviously aren't chinese, so you don't represent KMT interests +--- 14904732 +>>14904727 +???? + +Previous Chinese regimes had colonized Korea + +Do they not teach communist vermin any history? +--- 14904736 +>>14904722 +no, you're not Chinese, that's what makes you inferior and worthless. seething all day like a subhuman, that's all you can do +--- 14904738 +>>14904727 +dang so now 26 million koreans are trapped in a country wide concentration camp because of chinese paranoia...sad! +--- 14904739 +>>14904731 +ROC is a democracy and the KMT willingly stepped down from power as the results of the election. + +I applaud the KMT for switching from a dictatorship and respecting the results of an election. Mainland communist bandits could never do the same. +--- 14904741 +>>14904727 +>but if america controlled it they would use it as a springboard to invade china, just as japan did +Like I said, paranoid tankie fantasies. It's the same in every communist hell hole. They are terrified of being invaded and overthrown because deep down they know they're evil. +--- 14904742 +>>14904732 +>Previous Chinese regimes had colonized Korea +because it secures China's northeastern frontier. how does this contradict anything I said. what is your IQ, subhuman? +--- 14904746 +>>14904736 +Yeah the Chinese definitely aren't known for seething all day long haha +--- 14904747 +>>14904705 + +>Also the commies had their chance to grab it, instead they went all-in on Korea + +No, they never had a real chance. +KMT took all the ships with them. + +By the time the commies built ships, the US placed a few aircraft carriers in the strait. + +The Chinese involvement in Korea is probably the closests thing we'll ever see of a Zerg rush in modern warfare. Most of the Chinese soldiers died from simply having absolutely no logistical supply line, so they would either die from starvation, exposure, or lack of any supporting equiptment. +How do you expect that to conduct a successful sophisticated amphibious operation where doctrine is paramount to success? +--- 14904748 +>>14904738 +and how is that not a good thing? are you asking me to care about gooks? +--- 14904750 +>>14904705 +Most of the island speak Minnan and Hakka both of which originate from and are spoken in Fujian and Guangdong. +--- 14904752 +>>14904748 +Well I guess asking a Chinese to care about other people is a bit too much to ask huh? +--- 14904753 +>>14904739 +>ROC is a (((democracy))) and the KMT willingly stepped down from power as the results of the election. +what a joke. to be expected from the KMT, eternal losers +--- 14904755 +i honestly dont care who ends up owning taiwan, but at the same time im forced to care cause the power elite in china and america see it as the final puzzle piece to world domination and will go to war over it +--- 14904756 +>>14904742 +>the communists obviously weren't going to repeat their predecessor's indolence. that is what separates the communist party from every failed regime that preceded it + +Ok, but previous regimes had colonized Korea so the communist party is not unique in this respect +--- 14904759 +>>14904752 +no shit idgaf about if another country is starving. if they are starving to give us a territorial buffer, all the better +--- 14904766 +>>14904756 +>Ok, but previous regimes had colonized Korea +the late qing lost korea to japan and sat by as japan and russia fought over it. the roc then sat by as japan took manchuria from korea. the tang dynasty conquered goguryeo, so you are saying the ccp is comparable to the tang, the height of chinese civilization in the medieval era +--- 14904767 +>>14904759 +Inspiring +--- 14904768 +>>14904759 +Umm, sweaty, that's a pretty problematic point of view +--- 14904774 +>>14904753 +Democracy is for winners + +Sending tanks against student protestors and having mental breakdowns over Winnie the Pooh is for insecure losers +--- 14904781 +>>14904774 +>Democracy is for winners +>if you give up power due to a jew controlled election you win +inspiring ideas from the justin trudeau school of politics +--- 14904789 +>>14904781 +>he says, LARPing for an idealistic vision of society spawned by a jew +--- 14904791 +>>14904789 +sure thing kike +--- 14904803 +>>14903737 (OP) +What about geographical location? +--- 14904805 +>>14904791 +>chinkoid tries to fit in by copying our culture +--- 14904811 +>>14904805 +>our culture +you're brown +--- 14904815 +>>14904781 +>communist calling his opponents jews + +LMAO commushits are all following a Judaic ideology +--- 14904817 +>>14903737 (OP) +>there is no historical reason +yes there is a historical reason +it's called the chinese civil war you fucking moron +--- 14904820 +>too ESL to understand 4chan culture +>steals a bunch of terms it doesn't understand and throws them all into a gibberish melting pot +--- 14904829 +>>14904815 +why do jews control the jewnited states and not communist china? +--- 14904831 +That's an "argument from assertion". +Next time OP try to provide an argument. + +The transition from Chiang Kai-shek to Mau Zedong was considered illegal under International Law at the time, as it was a coup. + +Chiang Kai-shek and the rest of the legitimate Government fled to Taiwan. + +Since Taiwan has been been autonomous and completely independent from China since then, it operates as it's own independent Country with it's own Legal System, Currency and Trade. +--- 14904848 +>>14904831 +>The transition from Chiang Kai-shek to Mau Zedong was considered illegal under International Law at the time +oh wow, didn't know that. oops +--- 14904879 +>>14904831 +>>14904829 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904848 +Arabs in Iraq. Spawn of millenia of rape by Turco-Mongols (Seljuqs, Ottomans, Afsharids, Mongol Ilkhanate, Jalayarids, Safavid Qizilbash Turkmen, Aq Qoyunlu, Qara Qoyunlu), Indo-Europeans (Persians, Armenians, Americans), Kavkazis (Georgians) and Han Chinese people. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10249882/#10252672 + +https://archive.is/FKcFz + + +Imagine being such a subhuman that both Armenians and Turks consider you filth and raped your ancestors. Assyrians, Armenians and Turks all consider Iraqi Sunni Arabs to be subhuman irredeemable filth. + +Like this subhuman Iraqi Sunni Muslim Arab Islamist who is a slave of the Turks. + +>>11886340 +Check how much Armenian DNA you have mongrel. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WV6xyqWu6A [Embed] [Open] [Open] + +https://meaningfulworld.com/our-work/un/sexualized-violence-against-iraqi-women-by-us-occupying-forces + +Iraqi Sunni Muslim Arab woman raped by American. + +Iraqi Sunni Arab girls have been raped by Hulagu's Mongols, Jalayarid Mongols,, Timur's Turco-Mongols, Shia Twelver Qara Qoyunlu Turkmen, Aq Qoyunlu Turkmen, Safavids and Ottoman Turks and Georgian Mamluks. +--- 14904885 +>>14904820 +>>14904829 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904879 +--- 14904891 +>>14904820 +>>14904829 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904879 +>>14904885 +Timur died while he was on his way to China and he never managed to invade China. + +Timur i Lang (Tamerlame) invaded the Middle East after his invasion of India. He slaughtered, tortured and raped his own co-religionist Sunni Muslims across Iraq and Syria. Timur's Tatar (Turco-Mongol Central Asian) Sunni soldiers gang raped Sunni Arab women and virgins girls of Iraq and Syria in their own mosques. + +This is the story of horror that the Turco Mongol conqueror Timur inflicted upon the Sunni Muslim Arabs of Baghdad, Aleppo and Damascus. His soldiers gang raped girls while their brothers and fathers were tortured and forced to watch in the mosques. + +https://archive.is/IJQD0 + +remove the . between just and paste to get the url. + +https://web.archive.org/web/20210908183250/https://just.paste.it/2kj98 + +They say the descendants of his Turco-Mongol soldiers are found among the Sunni Arab populations of those places today due to the amount of virgin girls that were violated. Iraqi Arabs are the rape children of Timur. + +All Arab women were violated and raped by Turks, Mongols, Ethiopians, Persians, Armenians etc. +--- 14904895 +>>14904820 +>>14904829 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904891 +https://www.ijhssi.org/papers/vol7(3)/Version-3/G0703033642.pdf +>Iraq is the country greatly affected by Turkish terms. The dialect of Iraq during the previous centuries was influenced by the Persian, English, Sumerian and Turkish languages. Iraq, like all other Arab countries, has its own dialects which are almost identical. + +Iraqi Arab prostitutes services white men in Jordan. Allahu Akbar. Allah has decreed this الحمدلله على كل حال. الحمدلله على كل شيء + +https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/news/a1810/iraqi-refugees-prostitutes-sex/ +>The crowning irony among many of the women I met: Their best clients in Amman are American and European military personnel and contractors — the same sort of men they had worked for as translators and fixers. Now they are servicing them in a different way altogether. + +>Samara is a 23-year-old from the Diyala province in eastern Iraq. She spends several nights a week at the Cottage (or the disco at the Holiday Inn, or the Hyatt) to make enough money to last a few days. She wears short skirts, drinks, smokes, flirts. + +>Later, as she sits on the edge of the coffee table in my hotel room, it's hard to picture her as a nightclub denizen. She has long, dark hair and a round face that barely moves when she talks — her eyebrows don't furrow; her chin never stiffens. She is almost completely still, except for when she drops her head and stares at her lap. She explains that since she moved to Amman in 2006, she has slept with "British men, Americans, Egyptians, Saudis, Jordanians. God knows how many." She has been pregnant, and sold a thin gold necklace, her only piece of jewelry, to pay for the abortion. "I love children," she says. "I would love to have children someday." + + +https://archive.is/tiNq0 +>Iraqi arabs will have 70% turkish ancestry talking about we wuz babylonians like girl get your ass back to mongolia along with the other turks… +--- 14904899 +>>14904820 +>>14904829 +>>14904895 +Even Saudi Arabians agree that Iraqi Arabs are the world's most raped mystery meat. The Saudi Iranic Balochi Mansur al-Balushi made this rape chart for Irakis showing how Iraqis have been raped for 2,600 years and Iraqi "Arabs" are mystery meat mongrels. And his Saudi Arab followers are cheering him, a Baluchi (Iranic) on as he insults Iraqi Arabs. You are worthless scum to Saudis + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10929965/#q10930979 + +And western journalists and historians agree Baghdad and Iraq is the most raped place on earth and Iraqis are the most raped mystery meat people + +https://archive.is/FKcFz +https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/jun/20/baghdad-iraq-psychological-toll-worlds-most-attacked-city + +>Baghdad: the psychological toll of being the world’s most attacked city + +>For more than a thousand years the population of the Iraqi capital has been subject to rape, torture and indiscriminate slaughter + +>No city on earth has been attacked as often, or as brutally, as Baghdad. Once again, the residents of the Iraqi capital are bracing for another possible invasion, with the jihadist forces of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis) less than 50 miles north of Baghdad at the time of writing. For a force that is supposed to number only several thousand, Isis gains in Iraq have taken the world by surprise, turning old certainties on their head and prompting the US and Iran to think the unthinkable and cooperate on Iraq. + +>But for the city that is next on the Isis target list, the once glorious capital of the Islamic empire, the sight of a foreign army at the gates is all too familiar. Over the past 13 centuries, Baghdad’s population has been subject to rape, torture and indiscriminate slaughter, with terrible consequences: on the city’s physical infrastructure, on religious convictions, and above all, perhaps, on the minds of the long-suffering Baghdadis. + +It's a list of everyone who raped Iraq in chronological order +--- 14904904 +>>14904820 +>>14904829 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904879 +>>14904885 +>>14904891 +>>14904895 +>>14904899 +Timur's Turco Mongol soldiers mass raped and impregnated Sunni Arab girls in Baghdad, Aleppo and Damascus. + +All Arab Sunnis carry the DNA of his soldiers. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10249882/#q10252672 +--- 14904906 +>>14904820 +>>14904829 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904879 +>>14904885 +>>14904891 +>>14904895 +>>14904899 +>>14904904 +--- 14904911 +>>14904820 +>>14904829 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904879 +>>14904885 +>>14904891 +>>14904895 +>>14904899 +>>14904904 +>>14904906 +--- 14904921 +>>14904282 +>>14904817 +>>14904820 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904848 +Mongols were raped and enslaved by Han Chinese centuries before Genghis was born. (You're not Mongol, only a rapebaby of Hulagu). + +Han Chinese conquered and raped Mongolia centuries before the Mongol empire was founded and Genghis Khan was born. If ruling over a place means everyone in it was raped, then all Mongols are raped cross bred descendants of Han Chinese raping their ancestors. + +If Mongols ruling an area makes everyone mixed with Mongols (the Mongols conquered and raped and ruled for centuries all the way to Anatolia and Aleppo and conquered and raped Romania and Korea as well), then all off Asia from Korea to Romania to Iraq and the Syrian cities of Damascus and Aleppo are Mongol hybrids. +>>>/k/50520707 + + +>>>/k/50520718 +>China wasn't subjugated by foreigners. The non-Han dynasties were rebel subjects of preceding Han Chinese dynasties, not foreign invaders. + +>The region of Mongolia was raped and conquered by Tang dynasty China centuries before the Mongol empire existed. + +https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10403196 + +https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/45518168 + +https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/48235048 + +>>>/k/48235048 + +>Steppe nomads like the southern Xiongnu, Jie, Di, Qiang, An lushan's rebels and the non-nomadic sedentary farmer Jianzhou Jurchens were all conquered, subjugated and deported as slaves by Han Chinese BEFORE they revolted against they Han masters to establish their own dynasties. China was never conquered by an external political entity. + + +Since conquest and rule = mass breeding and rape, all Mongols and Vietnamese are crossbred with Han Chinese genes since China ruled Vietnam for 1,000 years and ruled Mongolia for centuries under the Tang dynasty before the Mongol empire. +--- 14904927 +>>14904282 +>>14904817 +>>14904820 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904848 +>>14904921 +1. Manchus aren't nomads. They are farmers. + +2. Nomads like Mongols are midgets and are darker and shorter than northern Han. Manchus are also shorter than average than Northern Han. + +3. The surname Hu originated among Han. + +>According to tradition, the Hu (胡) surname has several historical origins. First, Hu could derive from the family of Duke Hu of Chen. King Wu of Zhou (r. 1046-043 BCE) enfeoffed his son-in-law Gui Man 媯滿 (supposedly a descendant of the legendary sage king Emperor Shun) with the state of Chen (in modern Henan Province). His posthumous name was Duke Hu, and some of his descendants adopted Hu as their surname. Second, Hu could derive from two Zhou vassal states named Hu 胡, one located near Luohe (Henan Province) or another near Fuyang (Anhui Province). +--- 14904939 +>>14904927 +You forgot to tell the Turco-Mongol Iraqi rapebaby that Arabs are full of surnames like Ajami (non-Arab) and Turkish surnames like Bayraqdar and Khashoggi from centuries of Arab women getting raped and impregnated. +--- 14904947 +>>14904282 +>>14904817 +>>14904820 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904848 +>>14904921 +>>14904927 +>>14904939 +Shatuo cucks served Tang China in raping Uyghurs like proud uncle toms. +--- 14904951 +>>14904282 +>>14904817 +>>14904820 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904848 +>>14904921 +>>14904927 +>>14904939 +>>14904947 +The Shatuo dynasties weren't founded by conquest, one Shatuo chief was adopted as prince by the Tang Emperor for helping rape and kill Uyghurs and when the Tang dynasty fell, the Shatuo just claimed to legally continue the Tang dynasty in their fief. + +The Shatuo family of Later Tang also adopted the Han Wang Congke (Li Congke) as prince and he was last Emperor of Later Tang. +--- 14904952 +>>14904282 +>>14904817 +>>14904820 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904848 +>>14904921 +>>14904927 +>>14904939 +>>14904947 +>>14904951 +Mongols are shorter than Han Chinese. + +Mongols (Outer Mongolia) and Manchus (Beijing) are both midgets compared to Shandong Han (Shandong and most of Jilin, Heilongjiang and Liaoning are filled with Shandong Han settlers). + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country + +Genghis Khan purged tall Mongol men when he was uniting Mongol tribes. + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_against_the_linchpin + +>Genghis Khan used this brutal method against Jamukha's coalition of tribes in 1202. All male captives were forced to walk beside a wagon wheel. If their heads were higher than the linchpin (a pin inserted at the end of the axle) they were immediately executed. The wagon wheel was a large wheel used to transport yurts and other goods. This technique was probably used to preempt against revenge attacks that were common between tribes at this time. If one tribe were to attack another, there was always the possibility that there would be a revenge attack soon after. By eliminating the older males, there was less chance of a counterattack from tribes that were in perpetual conflict due to centuries of distrust and robbery. + +This picture of tall nomads are actually Kazakhs, not Mongols. Kazakhs are literally mongrel mutt rapebabies of Mongol men raping Turkic Kipchak Cuman Indo-European Caucasian women. Kazakhs have paternal Mongol Y Haplogroup C2 while they have maternal Indo-European Caucasian mtdna haplogroups. + +A Kazakh is to a Mongol as to what a Mestizo Latino Hispanic is to a Spaniard. They got their paternal ancestry from violent conquest and rape of the local women so their maternal ancestry is different but their paternal is the same. +--- 14904955 +>>14904282 +>>14904817 +>>14904820 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904848 +>>14904921 +>>14904927 +>>14904939 +>>14904947 +>>14904951 +>>14904952 +These are ethnic Kazakhs, not Mongols who are midgets. +--- 14904959 +>>14904282 +>>14904817 +>>14904820 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904848 +>>14904921 +>>14904927 +>>14904939 +>>14904947 +>>14904951 +>>14904952 +>>14904955 +Uyghur Y DNA. +--- 14904961 +>>14904670 +From my understanding they'll tear up their own island before willingly giving it over. +--- 14904964 +>>14904282 +>>14904817 +>>14904820 +>>14904831 +>>14904835 +>>14904837 +>>14904848 +>>14904921 +>>14904927 +>>14904939 +>>14904947 +>>14904951 +>>14904952 +>>14904955 +>>14904959 +The genetic makeup of modern Uyghurs was changed by the Mongols and Manchus via rape. + +https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28595347/ + +>The Uyghur people residing in Xinjiang, a territory located in the far west of China and crossed by the Silk Road, are a key ethnic group for understanding the history of human dispersion in Eurasia. Here we assessed the genetic structure and ancestry of 951 Xinjiang's Uyghurs (XJU) representing 14 geographical subpopulations. We observed a southwest and northeast differentiation within XJU, which was likely shaped jointly by the Tianshan Mountains, which traverses from east to west as a natural barrier, and gene flow from both east and west directions. In XJU, we identified four major ancestral components that were potentially derived from two earlier admixed groups: one from the West, harboring European (25-37%) and South Asian ancestries (12-20%), and the other from the East, with Siberian (15-17%) and East Asian (29-47%) ancestries. By using a newly developed method, MultiWaver, the complex admixture history of XJU was modeled as a two-wave admixture. + +>a more recent wave occurred around 750 ya, which is in agreement with the estimate from a recent study using other methods. + +https://twitter.com/KerimTurkistani/status/1433224648221605888 + +>Uyghurs have many different looks, we have been invaded and so on many times in history. You should study our genetics and history more. + +modern Sunni Uyghurs hate Genghis Khan for being a kafir (infidel) who killed and raped their ancestors in the Qara Khanid Khanate. + +https://twitter.com/KerimTurkistani/status/1432827323754057734 + +>He was a Kafir so + +(Medieval Buddhist Uyghurs were conquered by the Chagatai Khanate later and destroyed) +--- 14904986 +The chinkspammer is a barely Chinese non-Hui ex-Muslim Southeast Asian mutt from Singapore. + +He's obsessed with interracial shit and Han patrilineality shit. + +His mental illness is compounded by him being a mongrel, a diaspora, not exactly Chinese, not exactly Southeast Asian, identityless, old parents and PTSD. diff --git a/his/14903753.txt b/his/14903753.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..205e918179e0112c63c46dd7b2c47992d7a88e67 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903753.txt @@ -0,0 +1,14 @@ +----- +--- 14903753 +How come air pirates never became a thing when criminals have infected every other facet of life; on the ground, water and by ground vehicles. Is the government response for military too great of a challenge to overcome? +--- 14903767 +something something fighter jets that can blow up your whole plane with a few shots +--- 14903787 +>>14903753 (OP) +You can't really board another plane, only shoot it down or force it to land. Also the technological challenge is greater and even coming close to competing with the government is prohibitively expensive for anyone who would consider resorting to air piracy. +--- 14903810 +Wasn't plane hijackings incredibly common before 9/11? +--- 14904703 +well you see Dark Knight Rising a plane is harder than they make it look in that one scene + +there were a lot of hijackings in the decades leading up to 2000 though diff --git a/his/14903783.txt b/his/14903783.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..195328150c8809fe795f8a162eae9e79eebe5618 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903783.txt @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@ +----- +--- 14903783 +>no music +Lmao this is saturday morning cartoon level villain shit. How much of a shitty ideology do you be ban something as fundamental to the enjoyment of life as music? +--- 14903795 +>>14903783 (OP) +Portable music players didn't exist yet back then, a music ban(more particularly an instrument ban) wouldn't really affect anyone's life quality until the past few decades. Communal singing and whatever is still legal, excluding women at least. +--- 14903799 +>>14903783 (OP) +they have nasheeds and other types of music +--- 14903846 +Music and dancing are animalistic. Satan uses music and dance to manipulate people into sin. Nothing should control your heart but Allah and the Quran. + +We don’t need music. Show me ONE song more beautiful than the sound of the Quran. Show me ONE dance more glorious than Friday prayer. +--- 14904085 +>>14903783 (OP) +There is nothing in the Quran that bans it, Prohibited in varying degrees sure, but people who consider it forbidden tend to refer to the Hadiths which aren't always followed/. Every Muslim country has music, it's not like you get beheaded for listening to it lmfao. Have you considered actually asking Muslims about this shit instead of wasting space on /his/? +--- 14904095 +the only two regimes that banned instruments are islam an nazi germany + +>>14903846 +>I don't listen to music outside of the Quran, so it's proof that no music is better than the Quran +what the fuck +--- 14904222 +>>14903783 (OP) +its a hadith thing (a thing thats never been expliticly written in the quran, aka mostly hearsay with arguments about the validaty of whether who heard it from who and how reputable they are) there are plenty who just dont believe its a real rule and listen to whatever they want +though i dont really care to defend it, im just giving it context +--- 14904226 +>>14903799 +Nasheeds aren't music. +--- 14904228 +>>14904085 +Afghanistan literally has a chant as the national anthem because instrumental music is banned +--- 14904381 +>>14904226 +Not only are nasheeds music, they can be extreme bangers. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CoB2oNRS-w [Embed] +--- 14904417 +>>14904228 +He's just trying to say that there isn't a consensus among Muslims on this issue, but there are plenty who do feel this way about it. +--- 14904550 +>>14903783 (OP) +Iran has music, dumbass: + +https://youtu.be/63B650GxQBI [Embed] + +Shajarian and Shahram Nazeri are both very popular. Shahram even sang from the Shahnameh: + +https://youtu.be/zGOy7iFXxkk [Embed] +--- 14904557 +>>14904095 +Anyone who listens to the Quran will cry at how perfect it sounds +--- 14904571 +>>14904417 +>>14904222 +>>14904085 +Leftists detected. Music is just as haram as eating pork or drinking alcohol. diff --git a/his/14903786.txt b/his/14903786.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9d1de48593062d5a0217415c552131cd088da731 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903786.txt @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +----- +--- 14903786 +I still don't understand why they go on about muh evidence when Christians tell them up front faith isn't based on evidence +--- 14903798 +Except you have christians desperately trying to cope with their inherently materialist subconscious with things like Biblical archaeology and signs of the End Times. +--- 14903807 +I don't understand how they talk about evidence then deny self-evident properties like the gods and their influence. It seems they are more Christian than they would like to admit. +--- 14903809 +>>14903786 (OP) +I respect fideists, I only demand evidence from people who claim that their Christianity is well justified. +t. fedora +--- 14903841 +>>14903786 (OP) +>Christians tell them up front faith isn't based on evidence +That's called fideism and it is heresy +--- 14904357 +>>14903841 +There is overwhelming evidence for the faith, but it is not the basis of it. We don't need evidence that doesn't mean we don't have evidence +--- 14904385 +>>14903786 (OP) +You think your "god" cane save you from GOTT's wrath? +--- 14904394 +>>14903786 (OP) +try going to court using your faith that is not based on evidence as a defence +--- 14904399 +>>14903786 (OP) +Well a lot of people don’t believe things without some form of evidence. +They’re just more skeptical than you. +--- 14904470 +>>14904399 +That's not skepicism, it's empiricism, which is not a Christian epistemology. Atheists are begging the question when they make such appeals +--- 14904543 +>>14904470 +>it's empiricism, which is not a Christian epistemology +Lol clearly +--- 14904599 +>>14903786 (OP) +Local christcucks consider bible to be evidence kek +--- 14904619 +Because why not be a muslim, then? +--- 14904625 +>>14903786 (OP) +It's more of a slogan than anything. If atheists who say "I need evidence" made an honest account of how they understand, nay, how they practice data collection, the percentage of people passing that simple criterion would be smaller than the percentage of Christians who read the Bible. + +>>14903798 +Very true. + +>>14904399 +They very well might be. But why cross from skepticism to straight up denial? +--- 14904668 +>>14904625 +>They very well might be. But why cross from skepticism to straight up denial? +A lack of belief in something logically follows from a lack of evidence. +--- 14904673 +>>14904668 +An active rejection of a widely accepted phenomenon logically should not follow from having no clue about it. That's how you get falt-Earthers. +--- 14904690 +>>14903786 (OP) +Because saying you don't care about evidence doesn't change the mathematical laws governing evidence and belief. +--- 14904694 +>>14904690 +Mathematical laws don't govern anything. They describe how things are being governed if anything. +--- 14904702 +>>14904673 +>active rejection of a widely accepted phenomenon logically should not follow from having no clue about it +I’ve literally never met a religious person who has evidence that their god exists. +--- 14904707 +>>14904694 +Learn Bayes' Theorem and why it's true. +--- 14904757 +>>14904702 +You just repeated more or less what I already replied to. You rejecting something for "lack of evidence" despite having no clue about any of it is invalid. You could just as well complain that nobody proved Aractozialmekh to you. You wouldn't know if they did. + +>>14904707 +Will do, boss! Still a description, not a governing body. +--- 14904772 +>>14904757 +It is a description of the underlying principles. +--- 14904790 +>>14904772 +You're just replacing "equations" with "principles". Sure, principles, patterns, stoic "logos", proportionality... those are all valid descriptions of how things go about. But they don't govern. What put them in place governs. +--- 14904804 +>>14904790 +What put them in place? +--- 14904832 +>>14904804 +God. +--- 14904834 +>>14903798 +Consciousness isn't material lol +--- 14904860 +>>14904832 +How do you know? +--- 14904870 +>>14904860 +All contingent things must by logical deduction be based on a single entity beyond natural categories. +--- 14904874 +>>14903786 (OP) +>faith isn't based on evidence +christcucks make that pretty obvious +--- 14904970 +The issue is when Christians try and argue that their religious views are true using faith based evidence. They’re free to believe in Jesus if they want to, they just shouldn’t be pretending it’s for any rational reason. diff --git a/his/14903792.txt b/his/14903792.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a302a5c7fee6c0bff9f00dbe63609663188b667d --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903792.txt @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +----- +--- 14903792 +>first world empire +>born from a petit crusader kingdom +>Territories months away from each other, a trip to Cuba took the same time back then as a trip to Mars today +>"The Sun Never Sets on the Spanish Empire" +>built almost every city in the new world, just 700 were built at 16th century +>30 UNESCO World Heritage sites built in America +>first cowboys +>maintained a maritime monopoly in the atlantic and pacific oceans for 3 centuries +>leaded countereformation +>spreaded christianity and western culture as no empire before them +>breed entire new races & cultures by muh dick force +>first world currency ever +>lasted much more time than rest of colonial empires despite lacking of modern technology, railroads, telegraph, etc +>centuries later still cause butthurt, controversy and admiration +--- 14903832 +>>14903792 (OP) +Based Catholic empire. Britcucks still seething to this day. +--- 14903872 +>>14903792 (OP) +>leaded countereformation +>leaded +Retarded ESL. This empire was shit for the most part, was almost always running into bankruptcy because the government was bumfuck retarded in the economic sphere, and whether you like it or not, its legacy is the cocaine driven shitter we know as Latin America. It's lasting impact on the world is literally cartel videos. Congratulations. +--- 14903909 +>>14903792 (OP) +>leaded +I can smell your shit paco diff --git a/his/14903830.txt b/his/14903830.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4139ecf5c571431f5a782e4b6734b9d52525b0e4 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903830.txt @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +----- +--- 14903830 +Vikingar! +--- 14903844 +sovl overload +--- 14903845 +>>14903830 (OP) +You low born orc! +--- 14903957 +>>14903830 (OP) +RAAAAAAAAH + +I LOVE MY ARCHERS MISSING BECAUSE I HAVE NO CONCEPT OF DEPTH +--- 14903969 +>>14903957 +>he doesn't bombard the enemy second line while his huscarls eat the front line for breakfast, tearing through them like wet tissue +Lol +--- 14903984 +>>14903845 +OOZING-PUS WOUND!! +--- 14904052 +>>14903830 (OP) +Fun game. +--- 14904097 +>>14903830 (OP) +i don't think i ever finished this game +--- 14904436 +>>14903984 +SVINAFELL TROLL! +--- 14904678 +>>14903957 +you know who else lost his depth perception to archers? diff --git a/his/14903835.txt b/his/14903835.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e80d54ff639cab1c1c2f72ceb541442f43a25e28 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903835.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 14903835 +Does Alyssa’s dad jerk his baby dick to Mrs Arnieri because she is hot or is she hot because Alyssa’s dad jerks his baby dick to her. + +1. Alyssa’s dad jerks his baby dick to Mrs A because she is hot = her beauty lies independent of Alyssa’s dad and his personal opinions. Her beauty is an objective trait not a personal opinion. + +2. Mrs A is hot because Alyssa’s dad jerks off to her= her beauty is dependent on Alyssa’s dad and whether she can make him grow a three inch chub in his policeman panties. + +We know that such important matters can not rely on the personal opinion of a double digit IQ cop so we are forced to concede that one is the correct choice and not two. diff --git a/his/14903842.txt b/his/14903842.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f68b13b717d070b0019e75503865b77a13352883 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903842.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 14903842 +>It's ok to molest your daughter as long as you ask God for forgiveness after +Do Christians really believe this? +--- 14903851 +>>14903842 (OP) +They all lived happily ever after, what's the problem? +--- 14903925 +All is well that ends well. +--- 14903959 +this has to be a parody +--- 14903985 +Bruh nigga nigga bruh bruh fr fr +--- 14903999 +>>14903842 (OP) +They certainly practice it +--- 14904782 +>They certainly practice it diff --git a/his/14903856.txt b/his/14903856.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3a5c717b622fc95ac9bd9249f93a64edf3dc8048 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903856.txt @@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +----- +--- 14903856 +Why have some people turned out taller than others even though they may share the same diet and lifestyle? +--- 14903914 +>>14903856 (OP) +It's literally just genetics +--- 14903920 +>>14903914 +That's the greatest non-answer I've ever read +--- 14904181 +>>14903920 +No, it really is genetics, I don't see how you're this deep under a rock. Did no one ever tell you this growing up? Where are you from? +--- 14904240 +>>14904181 +>It's fate +>Hmmm that's kind of a broad and vague answer +>Dude, rocks +--- 14904252 +>>14904240 +>Differences in human height is 60–80% heritable, according to several twin studies[29] and has been considered polygenic since the Mendelian-biometrician debate a hundred years ago. A genome-wide association (GWA) study of more than 180,000 individuals has identified hundreds of genetic variants in at least 180 loci associated with adult human height.[30] The number of individuals has since been expanded to 253,288 individuals and the number of genetic variants identified is 697 in 423 genetic loci.[31] In a separate study of body proportion using sitting-height ratio, it reports that these 697 variants can be partitioned into 3 specific classes, (1) variants that primarily determine leg length, (2) variants that primarily determine spine and head length, or (3) variants that affect overall body size. This gives insights into the biological mechanisms underlying how these 697 genetic variants affect overall height.[32] +What's your next shitpost? +--- 14904253 +>>14904181 +OP probably wanted to know something about it and your reply is a vague non-answer at best +--- 14904258 +>>14904253 +I'm not the first reply, but that is the complete extent of the reason. Does he want specific gene names and their locations in the chromosomes? +--- 14904288 +>>14904252 +>Mendelian +What is this from the 1920s? Nobody uses Mendelian genetics 1:1 anymore +--- 14904304 +>>14904288 +Is that your bait? +--- 14904307 +>>14904304 +More wasted time, fuck off +--- 14904335 +>>14904307 +My words to you, indeed. +--- 14904349 +>>14904335 +Stop talking like a victorian faggot +--- 14904364 +>>14904349 +Make me, fool +--- 14904367 +>>14904364 +Youre not smart or interesting +--- 14904373 +>>14904367 +I am of vaster stature than you, however +--- 14904392 +>>14904373 +Reply if youre gay diff --git a/his/14903865.txt b/his/14903865.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fe244f7f536b4da7b7397536a9a3cecae27b5f2c --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903865.txt @@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +----- +--- 14903865 +how did 2000 arabs managed to conquer the entire iberian peninsula? +--- 14903866 +>>14903865 (OP) +Visigoth (white) women spread their legs for arabs. A tale as old as time +--- 14903879 +>>14903875 +Fuck off jacques no one seriously believes that shit. +--- 14903881 +>>14903865 (OP) +In a very similar way to how the Inca's were beat, the visigoths were in the middle of civil war #6 gorillion, and the king who dies in that battle didn't even control most of the kingdom +--- 14903884 +>>14903865 (OP) +The proles didn't give a fuck either way so it was a contest between two small groups of well-armed foreign invaders. +--- 14903888 +>>14903865 (OP) +dunno, how did 300 goatfuckers manage to defeat the entire Umayyad force of Munuza? +--- 14903891 +>>14903884 +>The proles didn't give a fuck either way +As Christians they would favour the Goths, unless they're heretics in which case they favour the Muslims. Jews also probably favour the Muslims. It's not classical antiquity or modernity, everyone has an international ideological affiliation in the Middel Ages. +--- 14903893 +>>14903865 (OP) + +by allowing Visigothicc nobles to convert to Islam and join en masse to the invading force, or alternatively, literally let Christian rulers rule over entire regions of Spain for an entire generation; + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodemir_(Visigoth) +--- 14903906 +>>14903866 +>arabs +you mean berber BVLLS +--- 14903911 +>>14903888 +you're not goatfuckers you're quadroon siesta subhumans +>strength unknown +>casualties unknown +lmao +--- 14903922 +>>14903865 (OP) +OP did you ever think just how many people a thousand is? Did you even interact with that many people in your entire life before becoming a NEET recluse? An army in the hundreds already is enough to march through and lay waste to anything. You only think it is a small amount because when you picked up history and began with the oldest source (Herodotus) he literally has an invading persian army in the millions. The entire population of the world was not even in the millions yet. That's how much he was exaggerating. And basically every historian ever from that point couldn't resist the same temptation that befell Herodotus and they all give ridiculously inflated numbers for anything they describe. +Given other happenings not too far off in time or in space it is not so unreasonable that 2,000 arabs managed it. Pic related. +--- 14903942 +>>14903906 +>The greatest of Kings Abu-Al Walid the rightly guided +>In the footsteps of his faithful forefathers, the elites of Qahtan +>And through the support of his subjects of Adnan, the greatest among creation +What did "Berbers" mean by this? +--- 14903953 +>>14903911 + +>strength unknown +>casualties unknown + +it is the same for the Muslim victory dumbass lol, those are digits made up by historians like 30ish years ago diff --git a/his/14903931.txt b/his/14903931.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5c72c550ec3ad4c3af424ab168cdb52c1076f14a --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903931.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 14903931 +The French Revolution was the birth of extremism. The extreme ideas of the Jacobins have resulted in countless wars of revenge in Europe. +--- 14903941 +>May it not be the case in France that the influence of women, which went on increasing steadily from the time of Louis XIII, was to blame for that gradual corruption of the Court and the Government, which brought about the Revolution of 1789, of which all subsequent disturbances have been the fruit? + +-A. Schopenhauer + +It's the ovarian jew again +--- 14904585 +>>14903931 (OP) +It wasn't the birth of "extremism" but it was the birth of faggotry. The West's first suicidal malfunction, which would be followed by many more +--- 14904589 +>>14904585 +Coping christchud, religion is dead for good +--- 14904596 +>>14903931 (OP) +Why are they depicted as Spaniards? diff --git a/his/14903936.txt b/his/14903936.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e2ea270eace9c25f71fb4479400142325d0af88e --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903936.txt @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +----- +--- 14903936 +Is this true religion bros? The ads on this site keep telling me it is true. +--- 14903946 +>>14903936 (OP) +It's all true. +--- 14903958 +>>14903936 (OP) +Just kidding. +--- 14903976 +>>14903936 (OP) +>people go to heaven regardless of religion just because Christ died on the cross + +No that's universalism +--- 14904375 +>>14903936 (OP) +Does this mean Original Sin no longer exists? diff --git a/his/14903937.txt b/his/14903937.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5a1b391f6f4718a3b522e246a4da9f79997b9b50 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903937.txt @@ -0,0 +1,177 @@ +----- +--- 14903937 +>there’s been hundreds of different concepts of how diseases spread throughout human history but only yours exists +>the others are silly made up bullshit +>but not yours +>yours is real + +>there have been thousands of different accounts of how the earth was formed throughout human history but only yours exists +>the others are silly made up bullshit +>but not yours +>yours is real + +>There have been millions of different theories on how the human body functions and how to best ensure health throughout human history but only yours exist +>the others are silly made up bullshit +>but not yours +>yours is real. +--- 14903948 +Atheists can cope about this as much as they want and I even admit that many evils were done in name of God(s) but how many Buddhas, Jesus, Saints and actually good people who cared about others have atheists produced? Exactly zero. People say that you can be moral without believing in god but the contribution of atheists to the moral improvement of society is next to zero. +--- 14903949 +>>14903937 (OP) +The difference is that theories on the transmission of diseases are testable, faslsifiable, differentiated etc..., while religious beliefs are all equally unverifiable superstition +--- 14903956 +>>14903949 +>The difference is that theories on the transmission of diseases are testable, faslsifiable, differentiated etc +How are they testable?? +Everything you perceive is the product of senses you no way to fundimentally verify +Empiricism is an incoherent framework>>14903949 +--- 14903961 +>>14903937 (OP) +The difference being that human biology and germ theory are proven by facts while no religion has equal factual backing as germ theory. +--- 14903967 +>>14903937 (OP) +Except in all those cases, people with relevant knowledge are able to come to some degree of consensus. With religion, it's not like most rational people decided Christianity was the most plausible account of things. And religions aren't receptive to wholesale innovation, they aren't going "We think this is the best picture of how things work at the moment, but we'll accept if something better comes along". Unlike scientific theories, they are not provisional. They are absolute. + +beliefs about disease +>most rational people agree that x theory is the most plausible account of how disease works +>but they don't think it's necessarily the 100% absolute truth, there might be a better one that comes along later +beliefs about god +>rational people seem capable of having different opinions about the nature of god, there is no broad consensus +>but you have to commit 100% to the belief +--- 14903971 +>>14903956 +Drink raw sewage and see if your senses are able to verify the fact that you gave cholera +--- 14903979 +>>14903956 +>Everything you perceive is the product of senses you no way to fundimentally verify +Sure but how does that put religion in a better position? It just bolsters scepticism +--- 14903982 +>>14903971 +I second this +--- 14903990 +>>14903956 +Okay anon well my current level of skepticism already tells me your god doesn’t exist, so increasing my skepticism only makes your god less believable. +--- 14903996 +>>14903948 +Buddha and Jesus didn't exist. +--- 14904001 +>>14903996 +If you say they didn't exist physically they still existed spiritually else no one could have made up the stories about them. So yes, the mere fact that they were written down is because they have existed, or could have existed, metaphysically. +--- 14904175 +>>14903937 (OP) +All other ones coexist, mine does not +--- 14904178 +>>14903961 +Again +How are they “proven”?? +Everything you perceive (including the readings of “””emperical”””” inustriments) is coming to you through senses you cannot verify the validity of except through other senses. +In short untestable data unto untestable data +--- 14904188 +>>14904178 + +>>14903990 +--- 14904189 +>>14903971 +Again +Only would be shown as a product of unverifiable senses +>>14903979 +>>14903990 +The point is that if you take your professed frame work of skepticism seriously (IE do not believe shit you cannot emperically test) you couldn’t believe in ANYTHING as ALL OF IT is coming from senses you CANNOT emperically test +Yet you believe some things and disbelieve others +Meaning you aren’t basing any of this on an emperical framework or data or reason +Your just acting on an article of FAITH +(IE the same thing you accuse the Christian of doing and which you claim discredits his position) +--- 14904201 +>>14904189 +Asking me to be more skeptical of what’s true than I already am is going to push me further from believing in your god, not make me more likely to believe your assertion that it exists. +--- 14904236 +>>14903937 (OP) +This argument literally makes no sense because we're not talking about a million little deities who can all exist at the same time. Gervais has Mount Olympus in mind when he says shit like this. The overwhelming majority of religious people today believe in ONE supreme, all-powerful, all-knowing, ever-present, infinite being. There can only be one of these. Religious disputes these days are not people claiming that "other gods" are made up, but that other interpretations of God are made up. There is no "your God, my God"; there is only "God". There can only be one, as described. Religious groups are trying to claim that their knowledge, their interpretation, their stories and philosophy etc are true OF the one God, because there can only be one supreme infinite being. They are trying to claim ownership of this special knowledge for themselves, and claim false inspiration for the other groups, but they can quite well agree on the fact that there is one supreme deity, because this is not incoherent or unlikely in the slightest. In fact the kicker, as Gervais wrongly thinks, is not whether "God" (implicitly understood as the Christian God" exists, because it is quite likely, or at least you can easily posit, that there exists an infinite being full-stop. Now that this basic truth has been established, you can start saying that the Christian interpretation is silly, or that the Islamic interpretation is demon-inspired, or that Judaism is legalistic innovation, or that Hinduism is truly polytheism, or that the true, ineffable gospels simply cannot be wrong in their assessment of Jesus, etc. But nobody of any intellectual fiber should be equating "the Christian interpretation is wrong/harmful/insidious/silly/etc" with "there is no infinite, supreme deity, and you are all actually arguing for henotheism". This is why this is such an embarassingly bad take from Gervais or any other nu-atheist grifter like Sam Harris. +--- 14904244 +>>14903948 +We got you guys to stop chemically castrating homosexuals. +Of course you may say that this is a bad thing, but there lies the issue. If atheists make any contributions to morality, you will call it degeneracy because any contributions that are novel will necessarily go against the status quo that you subscribe to. It's a catch 22. +--- 14904296 +>>14904236 +>The overwhelming majority of religious people today believe in ONE supreme, all-powerful, all-knowing, ever-present, infinite being. +I just looked it up and as of 2010 it was globally around half. Overwhelming majority? Not so much. Doesn’t erase the other gods that people used to believe in either. +--- 14904297 +>>14904189 +There is a difference, in epistemology, between 'casual assent' and 'firm assent'. I might casually assent to someone else's statement that the weather is good right now in France, without investing it with a lot of truth-value. I'll take their word for it, but I'm not going to die on that hill if someone disagrees. If I'm a sceptic, I might feel the same way about sense appearances. "Well, the world seems real to me, but I can't really know." I can feel this way and still firmly assent to propositions like "the sky appears blue to me" even though I am not sure my perception reflects any real state of affairs. The problem is that religion demands a very high level of assent. You can't simply say, "Well, Christianity seems a bit more probable than Hinduism" and call it a day. You have to make a buck stopping decision. You have to throw your lot in with one or the other, at grave peril to your eternal soul. You are expressly not allowed to suspend judgement. But is there enough evidence to justify such a high level of certainty? Not in my opinion. +--- 14904314 +>>14904189 +OK then, if all experience is unverifiable then that includes your delusional concepts of god +--- 14904372 +>>14904201 +Anon your either missing the point or attempting to ignore it. +You don’t act as if the world you perceive is just as likely as the existence of God +YET +By the empiricist framework you advocate +You ought to +In reality both you and the Christian are working off the same faith based framework, assuming what you perceive to be the case is correct +You can believe what you want to believe anon +But you CANNOT coherently (and definitionally) decry Christianity on an empericist basis and continue to believe in and act on the basis of senses you CANNOT emperically verify +>>14904314 +Se above +--- 14904456 +>>14903967 +>They are absolute. +literally quantics +--- 14904473 +>>14904297 +>The problem is that religion demands a very high level of assent. You can't simply say, "Well, Christianity seems a bit more probable than Hinduism" and call it a day. You have to make a buck stopping decision. You have to throw your lot in with one or the other, at grave peril to your eternal soul. You are expressly not allowed to suspend judgement. But is there enough evidence to justify such a high level of certainty? +>Not in my opinion +Two points in response +>1. +Would you be able to be affirm firmly enough the possibility of the existence of a dirty in order to act to discover whether or not this diety existed?? +Because if so, +(Assuming a base rational motive of self interest) +It would then follow to spend at least a reasonable ammount of time and energy attempting to find out which religion, if any, was accurate. +That is to say to pray, to make pilgrimages, to experiment with various churches and in short to devote the same time and energy to the possible preservation of your consciousness through attempted communion with the devine. +>2. +In regards to the Homer Simpson response to Pascal’s wager +A thought experiment +Suppose you awoke tied to a chain, infront of you a man stood with a ping pong ball in one hand a gun in the other. +Between you was a roulette table +The man spoke and said +>”In a moment I will throw the ball above the roulette table, if you guess the number it will land on correctly while it’s in the air I will not shoot you” +>”Otherwise I will shoot you” +Now a few notes +Could the man be lying? +Absolutely, you could guess the “correct” number and he may still shoot you +Could the ball not hit the table at all? +Of course. +Yet given the circumstance, in this position, +Who wouldn’t guess a number?? +More over, +How could anyone defend NOT guessing a number as “””rational”””??? +--- 14904592 +>>14903937 (OP) +Sorry Ricky but Abrahamic monotheism has destroyed or subsumed every pagan belief system it encountered, every time. Those faiths only exist today at the luxury of monotheistic cultures. If all of the world's Christians, Muslims and Jews decided to completely annihilate the remaining pockets of paganism from the face of the Earth they would be helpless to stop it. + +One can debate which among them is the "right" choice but to claim Hinduism, the Olympic Pantheon or similar stand on anywhere approaching equal footing is absolutely delusional based on actual, verifiable information from recorded history. Let me know when a Wiccan dominated society becomes a nuclear or economic superpower and then maybe we can talk. +--- 14904604 +According to one of the religions, rabbi Yeshua is boiling in his own feces. What is the evidence that he isn't? +--- 14904919 +>>14904372 +https://youtu.be/X8aWBcPVPMo [Embed] +--- 14904931 +>>14903937 (OP) +Its more like asking why do these gods tolerate the other gods? + +Thor is like Im the god of Thunder then Zeus is like Im also the god of Thunder and then Raijin and his drums is like NO IM THE GOD OF THUNDER +--- 14904940 +>>14904372 +If your doctor tells you that you have a chest infection would you tell him that he's a quack because his senses used to diagnose you are unverified? Of course not, you would take the antibiotics he gives you, pseudo intellectuals never doubt the efficacy of their senses until they can use it in bad faith to justify their beliefs +--- 14904965 +>>14904940 +> If your doctor tells you that you have a chest infection would you tell him that he's a quack because his senses used to diagnose you are unverified? +No +But I would accept that I am fundimentally putting my FAITH in the doctor and his abilities due to past experience +Same way Christian’s trust their church based off past experience with their church +Just as trust your doctor when he tells you you have cancer, or ebola or one of a million other conditions they average person knows nothing about due to the doctor having been right about you having the flue or arthritis in the past +So to do people trust you heir church in the afterlife as it’s been shown to be right in other aspects of their life (such as the positive impact of advocating against gluttony, homosexuality and drug use all of which lead to depression and suicide) +The point here is not to show that material reality is bullshit +But rather then an emperical framework necessarily considers material reality to be bullshit. +The framework is the bullshit +Not the reality diff --git a/his/14903974.txt b/his/14903974.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a9c4f502d0c9a49c825b2a1dacbd0f1842d38b4c --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903974.txt @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +----- +--- 14903974 +Is money inherently evil? At a fundamental level it creates greed which in obviously bad. +--- 14903994 +Yes +--- 14904044 +>>14903974 (OP) +Money isn't evil. The love of money is evil. Big difference. +--- 14904233 +>>14903974 (OP) +its like asking whether guns are evil +its the wrong fucking question so any answer doesnt matter +--- 14904235 +>>14903974 (OP) +How much does your tard wrangler make? +--- 14904247 +>>14903974 (OP) +>it creates greed which in obviously bad. +Why is greed obviously bad? +--- 14904361 +>>14904247 +Well look at for example pharmaceutical companies. Milton Friedman states that greed is what drives innovation. I agree with that statement, but what happens if you reach that innovation and just try to capitalize everything? An example is Google, they did a great job off of making an easily accessible library, but now it controls public perception on the government. +--- 14904374 +>>14904235 +Less than yours since she has to put up with your dumbass. You can't even realise that the obsessive pursuit of monetary gain is the reason why 90% of men are virgins you retard. +--- 14904382 +>>14904374 +*most men are virgins between the ages of 18 - 30. You're still a retard though. +--- 14904410 +>>14904233 +Okay well then you're asking if black people should be in charge of guns? The answer is no. Should black people have money? They don't to begin with. +--- 14904426 +>>14903974 (OP) +No but it is completely fake. +--- 14904430 +Money is a tool to facilitate exchange. Tools cannot be evil. Blaming human action on tools is and always has been idiotic. +--- 14904431 +>>14904233 +>>14904410 +Guns can have nefarious purposes (just like money), but survival is an instinct in humans so they don't really count. +--- 14904440 +Money does not create greed. Even without money, people will still covet the possessions of others. Money is merely a medium of exchange that people use to purchase goods and services. What they are truly greedy for is to have more/better goods and services than everyone else. That's why people spend a mountain of cash on ridiculous cars: they aren't greedy for the money, they are greedy for what it can buy them. +--- 14904446 +>>14904430 +On a fundamental level money is a great thing, the problem is when you take into account what could happen if money is manipulated in a criminal way. I'm not a communist by all means, but the problem is that you have major corporations using their large influx of money to basically change the world in a bad way. +--- 14904457 +>>14904440 +Yeah I guess you're right, human ego really gets in the way of things. +--- 14904469 +>>14903974 (OP) +Money is nothing more than an abstract representation of value. If money didn't exist, then we would be bartering goods instead. This question can basically be reduced to "is it evil to think of an item as highly valuable"? +--- 14904471 +>>14903974 (OP) +Are women inherently evil? at a fundamental level they create lust which is obviously bad +--- 14904472 +>>14903974 (OP) +No, love of money is, money is but a tool +--- 14904485 +>>14904446 +Anything can be manipulated by criminals. The Soviets stole grain and starved their citizens. Does that mean grain should be banned as to not tempt the greedy Soviet officials? +--- 14904495 +>>14904374 +Greed predates the existence of money you fucknugget. And no, most men 18-30 are not virgins. + +https://boingboing.net/2021/03/22/adult-male-virginity-soars.html#:~:text=About%2027%25%20of%20men%20under,reported%20similar%20rates%20of%20sexlessness. + +27% isn't even close to "most". +--- 14904529 +>>14904440 +>people will still covet the possessions of others +That is envy not greed. They are similar, but they are inherently different. +--- 14904532 +>>14904529 +They are inherently connected. +--- 14904546 +>>14903974 (OP) +Commodities don't create greed. Commodification does. +-Plato +--- 14904562 +More important question: why is greed bad? I understand why envy is bad, as it is explicitly a negative emotion towards your fellow man. What I don't understand why the abstract desire for material goods is bad. Why would someone not want more resources? +--- 14904590 +>>14904562 +Greed is not an "abstract desire for material goods". It is an extremely concrete passion that passed the point of social and personal sustainability. It's like asking "why would wanting to fuel your body be bad" when the topic is over-eating. +--- 14904620 +>>14904590 +Eating has diminishing and eventually negative return. If you do it past a certain point, it will kill you. This makes no sense for greed, as there is no such thing as having too many resources. A greedy person may commit other sins, but it in itself being a sin makes no sense and cannot even be consistently defined. +--- 14904643 +>>14904620 +There absolutely is such a thing as having too many resources. And the point is: +a) when your diminishing utility on additional resource unit fall far below other people's utility for the resource - i.e. hoarding water during drought +b) when your diminishing utility on additional resource would render much more utility if invested into non-materialistic channels - i.e. taking a break from work and actually seeing your kids grow up once in a while +Examples above are non-exhaustive. + +Whether something can or cannot be "consistently defined" is another discussion altogether, but the fact greed itself is a sin is not debatable. +--- 14904647 +corr >>14904643 +>b) when your *COST OF ADDITIONAL* diminishing utility on additional resource would render much more utility if invested into non-materialistic channels - i.e. taking a break from work and actually seeing your kids grow up once in a while +--- 14904701 +>>14904643 +Your definition relies upon relative wealth equality, which is a direct contradiction of the sin of envy. Some people value time with their family a lot, and others very little (what if they're assholes?). Utility, like the value of goods, is completely subjective, and has no upper bound. What is the exact amount of wealth disparity which labels a person as being greedy? Whatever the government says it is? + +Hoarding is another name for stockpiling, which is not innately bad. Generously handing out water during a drought is virtuous, but valuing your own well-being above that of others and stockpiling that water is also perfectly understandable. +--- 14904734 +>>14904701 +>people thirsting during drought +>envy +No. +>Utility, like the value of goods, is completely subjective +It is related to a subject, but it is not arbitrary in the sense that we get to decide it, no. If someone values a swimming pool over their neighbour's survival, they are simply foolish and don't know the value of things. +>What is the exact amount of wealth disparity which labels a person as being greedy? +We aren't getting to exacts if we don't agree on the generals. +>valuing your own well-being above that of others and stockpiling that water is also perfectly understandable. +Not the example provided: +>>>>>your diminishing utility on additional resource unit fall far below other people's utility +>>>>far below other people's utility +>>>>far below +--- 14904775 +>>14904734 +There are children starving in Africa right now. Why aren't you donating your excess wealth to them? Are you foolish and don't understand the value of things? +--- 14904779 +>>14904044 +Money is essential to survival for 99% of modern day humans. The system of our tender was designed in a way (intentionally or otherwise) that influences (in many cases coerces) people, far more often than not, to worship its great power. +--- 14904798 +>>14904775 +Because I am too greedy. +--- 14904801 +>>14903974 (OP) +Oh great another retarded communist OP. I'm so sick of explaining this that I'm about to make it a pasta at this point but let's tailor it to you for now. +>Is money inherently evil? +This smuggles in so many assumptions that I don't even know where to begin in answering. To keep a long story short; No. +> At a fundamental level it creates greed +Typical leftoid unable to grasp cause and effect. Money doesn't create greed. Some humans are just inherently greedy. It doesn't have to be money it could be any sort of wealth. Gold, chickens, rare fabrics, incense. Wealth could be literally anything that humans will consider valuable. Money is simply meant to be a medium of exchange between all those things. If I have a bunch of cucumbers and you have a trained monkey and I want your monkey but you don't give a shit about cucumbers, then we can't trade. But if we have money which we all ascribe value agreed upon to, I am able to give you money for your monkey instead because you can use the money for something that you actually DO want. It's literally that simple. Money only has whatever value people assign to it. Idk where you live but in the U.S. our shit isn't even backed on anything real. It's imaginary numbers on a screen, especially for people who don't carry cash. But if we all agree that I can trade some of my numbers, which represent my services and labor, for a soda or a sandwich then I can. I don't have to perform labor directly to the person giving me the soda and sandwich, I performed services and labor for the company that employs me and they gave me numbers which I agree are valuable. It's really not complex. diff --git a/his/14903977.txt b/his/14903977.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1874c211d94ca4555dabd9bdf7752d8fd4c4fcde --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903977.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 14903977 +[spoiler] [/spoiler] +[spoiler] [/spoiler] +--- 14903991 +>>14903977 (OP) +chinese people with a chinese baby +--- 14904004 +is this real diff --git a/his/14903980.txt b/his/14903980.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ba8da6a9a8483b6d523be4624171a2205f8b04f8 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14903980.txt @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@ +----- +--- 14903980 +What's your favourite castle? +--- 14904014 +>>14903980 (OP) +12th & 16th century are the best +--- 14904021 +why was 1535 such a downgrade lmao +--- 14904031 +>>14903980 (OP) +The one that has been guarding our capital city for almost 2 millennia. +--- 14904169 +1428 > 1215 > 1125 > 1535 > 980 > 882 + +When you think of a castle you picture 1428 and 1215. +--- 14904177 +>>14903980 (OP) +why did castle walls downgrade to soulless wooden fences? even ancient humans were building stone walls +--- 14904184 +>>14904021 +Better / less convoluted fort against cannon; palace designed for comfort rather than to withstand a siege +--- 14904330 +>>14904177 +Something something apocalyptic collapse of western eurpean society first at the fall of rome then the long winter +--- 14904359 +>>14904177 +Cost. Roman government was big and had a big bureaucracy, well developed taxation system that let them efficiently extract wealth from the population, and then allocate money to infrastructure projects. It was a lot harder for medieval governments to efficiently do this with much smaller governments and fewer literate people to go around. + +Stone is costly to work with because it is very heavy. You need either specialized machines to move it, or more teams of animals and people, and these costs are exacerbated by the fact that you often have to haul stone long distances from where it is quarried, whereas timber was readily available everywhere in Europe at the time. + +So in the early medieval period most of the stone you saw was leftovers from Roman construction or else indicative of a very wealthy and well-organized medieval kingdom. diff --git a/his/14904012.txt b/his/14904012.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..be9720a7ae24b7e28e7ffaa52ae7be4d24c4f2b1 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904012.txt @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +----- +--- 14904012 +Who was right IRL? +--- 14904080 +>>14904012 (OP) +Might makes right! diff --git a/his/14904018.txt b/his/14904018.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b4ea7c81a2f98fbfb048d7637b9ec02ec45aab37 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904018.txt @@ -0,0 +1,14 @@ +----- +--- 14904018 +Are there any prominent WW2-era political figures that have mentioned the Holocaust in their memoirs? People like Churchill, De Gaulle or Eisenhower didn't. +--- 14904033 +>>14904018 (OP) +A handful of jews having to do labor in a camp isn’t a world shaking event, believe it or not +--- 14904035 +>>14904018 (OP) +>"The wholesale massacre by systematized processes of six or seven millions of men, women, and children in the German execution camps exceeds in horror the rough and ready butcheries of Genghis Khan, and in scale reduces them to pygmy proportions. Deliberate extermination of whole populations was contemplated and pursued by both Germany and Russia in the Eastern war." + + +-THE SECOND WORLD WAR “The Gathering Storm” page 15 + +OP, are you deliberately lying, or just have no fucking clue what you're talking about? diff --git a/his/14904030.txt b/his/14904030.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1b89b9e890f48671524eaed7e589a51e645e61a3 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904030.txt @@ -0,0 +1,197 @@ +----- +--- 14904030 +Red pill me on the Afanasievo Culture, Tarim and BMAC. +--- 14904048 +>>14904030 (OP) +go read a book or paper +--- 14904067 +>>14904030 (OP) +Afanasievo culture: offshot of early yamnaya, mixed very slightly with BMAC and tarim people, nothing much special, they probably introduced bronze to chinese, spent a time doing nothing in the tarim basin and eventually probably gave rise to tocharians. +Tarim: used to be inhabited by West siberian hunter gatherers, a mixture of east asian Hunter Gatherers and ANE, probably mixed with anfanasievo, they probably were the predecesor of tocharians, and relatively important for the silk road trade, they got btfo by mongols though +BMAC: Just nother neolithic pypos from iran, some think they spoke proto dravidian +--- 14904070 +>>14904030 (OP) +Afanasievo - a bunch of steppe niggers, brought euro sheep to Mongolia starting Mongolian pastoralism, actually weren't very successful. Possibly migrated South to the Tarim Basin and became Tocharians. + +Tarim - originally inhabited by an isolated ANE population, later on mixed with Afanasievo and Andronovo derived cultures, not much of the original ANE ancestry survived + +BMAC - extension of Iranian urban civilization. Farmers from the South expanded North and settled in Central Asia building large settlements and villages, probably domesticated Bactrian camels. They had contacts with Mesopotamia, Indus Valley, obviously also Iran and the northern steppes. The culture came into contact with steppe pastoralists around 2200 BC and collapsed around 1800 BC. Their ancestry is common in later people living there, including modern ones. +--- 14904086 +>>14904070 +>. The culture came into contact with steppe pastoralists around 2200 BC +Actually 3000 BC +>Their ancestry is common in later people living there, including modern ones. +Their Ydna is but the autosomal ancestry not so much +--- 14904128 +>>14904086 +BMAC? No. BMAC wasn't even a thing 3000 BC. + +>not so much +BMAC is often the main ancestry of modern Central Asians south of Kazakhstan. +--- 14904134 +>>14904128 +>BMAC? No. BMAC wasn't even a thing 3000 BC. +Yes it did exist retard +>BMAC is often the main ancestry of modern Central Asians south of Kazakhstan. +Only their Ydna is but their autosomal ancestry has been replaced by IE and Turkic migrations +--- 14904176 +>>14904134 +BMAC is from around 2500-2400. + +>Only their Ydna is but their autosomal ancestry has been replaced by IE and Turkic migrations +No, you can't model modern Central Asians without BMAC. +--- 14904180 +>>14904128 +>>14904134 +Target: Kyrgyzstan +Distance: 1.4755% / 0.01475487 +83.8 Mongolian +11.6 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA +4.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N +--- 14904187 +>>14904176 +>BMAC is from around 2500-2400. +It already existed in 3000 BC you retard +>No, you can't model modern Central Asians without BMAC. +I literally can and they lack significant BMAC ancestry because of population replacements +--- 14904199 +>>14904180 +Fit didn't change despite removing 1/3 of the sources (BMAC) + +Target: Kyrgyzstan +Distance: 1.9794% / 0.01979382 +84.6 Mongolian +15.4 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA +--- 14904213 +>>14904180 +IRN_Ganj_Dareh isn't BMAC. + +>>14904187 +The culture did not exist 3000 BC. Back then the ancestral cultures like Namazga existed there. BMAC proto-cities weren't a thing yet. I don't know why you insult me if you're clearly ignorant about topic. + +>population replacement +Iron Age samples are roughly 40-50% BMAC, 40-50% Sintashta, 10% Slab Grave (proto-Mongols). +BMAC ancestry spread with pastoralists reaching Tarim Basin and even Mongolia. Most Sarmatians have minor BMAC ancestry, even the ones in Europe. +Today Tajiks derive half of their ancestry from BMAC. +--- 14904245 +>>14904213 +>IRN_Ganj_Dareh isn't BMAC. +It is they're Iran Neolithic descendants +>The culture did not exist 3000 BC +It quite literally did retard and I don't know why you were dumb enough to deny this +>Iron Age samples +No they don't Kazakh Iron Age is 15% BMAC and the rest of the Iron Age samples are lacking +>BMAC ancestry spread with pastoralists reaching Tarim Basin and even Mongolia. +And it never forms the first or even second largest component in those populations +>Today Tajiks +They're only 1 country out of 7 modern Central Asians have almost no BMAC ancestry +--- 14904301 +>>14904245 +No, they are a mix of Iran_Neolithic, minor Western ancestry (Anatolian-like, probably from Mesopotamia) and ANE-related source that pre-date Yamnaya/Afanasievo expansion (a good source for this one seems to be the recently sequenced neolithic sample from Tajikistan). + +>They're only 1 country out of 7 modern Central Asians have almost no BMAC ancestry +Uzbeks, Tajiks, Turkmens all have this ancestry. The civilization developed in modern Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, not further North, so it's no surprise people further North have very little of this ancestry. + +>And it never forms the first or even second largest component in those populations +It often reaches 20% or more. That's 1/5 of ancestry in territories that are far from the core BMAC territory. + +>It quite literally did retard and I don't know why you were dumb enough to deny this + +>This collection of essays presents a synthesis of current research on the Oxus Civilization, which rose and developed at the turn of the 3rd to 2nd millennia BC in Central Asia. +Late 2000s, early 1000s BC. + +From The World of the Oxus Civilization. +--- 14904340 +>>14904301 +>No, they are a mix of Iran_Neolithic +They're 90% Iran Neolithic +>Uzbeks, Tajiks, Turkmens all have this ancestry. +Don't forget 4% Kyrgyz too +>The civilization developed in modern Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan +You claimed it's the main ancestry "south of Kazakhstan" and I already showed it wasn't and goes as low as 4% "south of Kazakhstan" +>It often reaches 20% or more. +That's nothing retard and shows how desperate you are after getting BTFO and shifting the goalposts from "main ancestry" to "20%" after you got proven wrong +>Late 2000s, early 1000s BC. +You were saying retard? +>Models of two-wheeled carts from c.3000 BC found at Altyn-Depe are the earliest evidence of wheeled transport in Central Asia, though model wheels have come from contexts possibly somewhat earlier. +>A model of a cart drawn by a camel of c.2200 BC was found at Altyn-Depe. +--- 14904379 +>>14904340 +>that's nothing +Those are northern pastoralists. Here are some Iron Age samples from the former BMAC territory. + +Turkmenistan IA - 43% Gonur BMAC, 52% Sintashta, 2% Megiddo IA, 2% Tarim EMBA 1 - 2.39% +Tianshan Saka - 19% Gonur BMAC, 49% Sintashta, 23% Slab Grave, 9% Tarim - 1.39% +Udegram Swat IA - 43% Gonur BMAC, 14% Sintashta, 2% Slab Grave, 4% Tarim, 37% Indus9 - 1.35% +Ksirov Kushan - 42% Gonur BMAC, 31% Sintashta, 15% Megiddo IA, 6% Slab Grave, 5% Tarim - 1.78% + +Yaghnobi Tajik - 45% Gonur BMAC, 40% Sintashta MLBA, 9% Megiddo IA, 6% Slab Grave EIA - distance 1.51% + +>Models of two-wheeled carts from c.3000 BC found at Altyn-Depe are the earliest evidence of wheeled transport in Central Asia, though model wheels have come from contexts possibly somewhat earlier. +>A model of a cart drawn by a camel of c.2200 BC was found at Altyn-Depe. +So? That's not BMAC. Or are you saying it's from Sintashta which wasn't even a thing for the next 1000 years? +--- 14904391 +>>14904379 +And Iron Age Uzbekistan. I think these samples were of low quality because they never ended up on the main G25 sheet. + +Rabat LIA average - 39% Gonur BMAC, 36% Sintashta MLBA, 20% Megiddo IA, 5% Slab Grave EIA - distance 1.16%. +--- 14904404 +>>14904379 +>Those are northern pastoralists. +Northern pastoralists were showing 15% which is not much different and today's Kazakhs and Kyrgyz have <5% BMAC ancestry +>Here are some Iron Age samples from the former BMAC territory. +It wasn't even 50% back then just lol +>Yaghnobi Tajik +Tajiks are the only Central Asians to have significant BMAC ancestry while the rest of the Central Asians have 0-20% BMAC ancestry +>So? That's not BMAC. +It literally is +>Bronze Age (BMAC) archaeological site in Turkmenistan, near Aşgabat, inhabited first from c. 3200 to 2400 BCE +--- 14904439 +>>14904404 +>it wasn't even 50% back then +It was still their main component. I don't know what's your problem. You claimed that BMAC people got replaced when they clearly weren't and all later samples from south Central Asia carry their ancestry. + +>>Bronze Age (BMAC) archaeological site in Turkmenistan, near Aşgabat, inhabited first from c. 3200 to 2400 BCE +That's incorrect. BMAC isn't that old. Oh right, it's wikipedia and it contradicts itself in the BMAC article. + +>The Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex (short BMAC) or Oxus Civilization, recently dated to c.2250–1700 BC,[3][4] + +> "...Salvatori has often dated its beginning very early (ca. 2400 BC), to make it match with Shahdad where a large amount of material similar to that of the BMAC has been discovered. With the start of international cooperation and the multiplication of analyses, the dates now admitted by all place the Oxus Civilization between 2250 and 1700 BC, while its final phase extends until ca. 1500 BC..." +From The World of the Oxus Civilization. It's even younger then. It did develop from earlier cultures from the region, though. +--- 14904482 +>>14904439 +>It was still their main component. +How is BMAC their main component when they were 19% Gonur BMAC, 49% Sintashta? This is before Mongol Turks replaced IE Central Asia btw +>You claimed that BMAC people got replaced +They did and that's why Central Asians have 0-20% BMAC ancestry as opposed to your false claim that BMAC is the "main ancestry south of Kazakhstan" +>later samples from south Central Asia carry their ancestry. +They're now 0-20% in their territory +>That's incorrect. +Cope +>Bronze Age (BMAC) archaeological site in Turkmenistan, near Aşgabat, inhabited first from c. 3200 to 2400 BCE +3200 BC BMAC +>It did develop from earlier cultures from the region +The civilization grew directly out of the older 4000 BC culture and they maintained steppe contacts +--- 14904501 +>>14904482 +>How is BMAC their main component when they were 19% Gonur BMAC, 49% Sintashta? This is before Mongol Turks replaced IE Central Asia btw +Tianshan samples are from Kazakhstan. 20% ancestry from urbanites who lived in Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan in Saka from Kazakhstan is a lot. +As you can see people who lived further South had more of their ancestry. I expect Sogdians and Bactrians to be around half BMAC or more. +--- 14904533 +>>14904501 +>20% ancestry from urbanites who lived in Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan in Saka from Kazakhstan is a lot. +It's nothing compared to the original 100% people +>As you can see people who lived further South had more of their ancestry. +It's still 43% Gonur BMAC, 52% Sintashta, not their "main component" even before the Mongol Turk Central Asia replaced IE Central Asia +--- 14904555 +>>14904533 +They never lived in Kazakhstan. + +>It's still 43% Gonur BMAC, 52% Sintashta +That's just one sample. The Kushan sample has more BMAC ancestry. +--- 14904570 +>>14904555 +>They never lived in Kazakhstan. +BMAC samples were found in Kazakhstan +>The Kushan sample has more BMAC ancestry. +Not a majority component in the most BMAC-rich samples even before the Mongol Turk Central Asia replaced IE Central Asia diff --git a/his/14904055.txt b/his/14904055.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..208287c9fa32bae1d38781b37c0b59347fe4ba86 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904055.txt @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +----- +--- 14904055 +>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RFnUAYzo1s&pp=ygUVcmFhZiBtYWNodGlnc3RlIGtvbmln [Embed] +>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9OUJcbgnXg&pp=ygUed2FzIGlzdCBkZXMgZGV1dHNjaGUgdmF0ZXJsYW5k [Embed] +--- 14904117 +>>14904055 (OP) +This is every /his/torian's favourite channel. +Posting these three because they're personal to me: +https://youtu.be/zfjjmSasssI [Embed] +https://youtu.be/WOCkEIACQqg [Embed] +https://youtu.be/6gar6MONCKs [Embed] +--- 14904160 +>>14904055 (OP) +Maoist era opera: "The Sun Comes Out Singing" from "The White-Haired Girl." + +https://youtu.be/pb6koTOzaFo [Embed] + +>The White-Haired Girl (Chinese: 白毛女; pinyin: Bái Máo Nǚ) is a Chinese opera, ballet, (later adapted to Beijing Opera and a film) by Yan Jinxuan to a Chinese libretto by He Jingzhi and Ding Yi. The folklore of the white-haired girl is believed to have spread widely in the areas occupied by the Communist Party of Northern China since the late 1930s ... The opera is based on legends circulating in the border region of Shanxi, Chahar and Hebei, describing the misery suffered by local peasantry, particularly the misery of the female members. The stories are based on real-life stories of no fewer than half a dozen women, in a time frame stretching from the late Qing dynasty to the 1920s or 1930s ... The White-Haired Girl also intentionally showed the political meaning by creating a figure of diligent and beautiful country woman who was under the oppression of the evil landowner. As it aroused an emotion against the "old ruling class", it satisfied "moral ideas of the left-wing literary and artistic intelligence, the popular social and cultural values of rural and urban audiences". + +The girl's hair is white because she escaped from her landlord to a mountain temple where there was a lack of sunlight and little salt intake, so her skin and hair turned white, causing local villagers to perceive her as a powerful white-haired godess. +--- 14904206 +>>14904055 (OP) +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPqQP_iHCEs [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKMwWZVpPE [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Ufc2hI4FM [Embed] +>>14904117 +hurts tho that they have nothing on my ethnicity and idk if that means they are ignoring us/are too busy or if we truly do as i fear have jack shit to post about +--- 14904259 +>>14904206 +>my ethnicity +Thirdie ethnicity, probably. +--- 14904275 +>>14904259 +i mean... technically? but definitely not the places you are thinking of tho +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO2W6GQeARE [Embed] +--- 14904295 +>>14904275 +:( +Just tell me what you are +--- 14904303 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC8ioZkb-Sc [Embed] +--- 14904309 +video is "chollima on the wings" (yt sometimes displays this message when watching an embed and it isnt actually region locked, but if it is theres vpns and/or other uploads) +>>14904295 +somali (somalilander technicallybut whatever) wanted to avoid saying it to a dodge a flowing river of anons calling me the n word but in for a penny in for a pound +--- 14904320 +>>14904309 +>somali (somalilander technicallybut whatever) wanted to avoid saying it to a dodge a flowing river of anons calling me the n word but in for a penny in for a pound +Aaah okay. +I don't consider you black, you're my fellow Caucasoid :D +--- 14904331 +>>14904309 +fuck forgot to post a song, two to make up +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztwNogPha6I [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK_RkH7aHb8 [Embed] +--- 14904496 +>>14904055 (OP) +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMnXhAFW0vc [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxCiIXRaWY [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLr1GZ5oI2Y [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQZIKsaSzQ4 [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVoWh7faBvg [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOwFnBar4bk [Embed] +Crusader songs +--- 14904680 +>>14904117 +I presume you're not a big fan of Turkey? +--- 14904761 +>>14904680 +Good guess :D diff --git a/his/14904065.txt b/his/14904065.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ee2f11647e1dbd9be3019db59fd7f0d005fce6f3 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904065.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 14904065 +Is it true that the prowess of the US army and it's generals during the WW2 campaigns in Europe is mostly a work of hollywood fiction?I've read about it several times already to the point it made me quite curious. The main argument seems to be that while mutts could get quite motivated to fight the nips over what they did to pearl harbor, their fight in europe was mostly just an obligation to them. Fight they had no interest in or in worse case, fight that was actually against their own beliefs as many were sympathetic to the Nazi cause. As a result they wouldn't display any of the fighting zeal and fantasim the Red Army/Wermacht had, and would really just sorta attack only when they had overwhelming numbers and call in artillery/air/tank support for every machinegun post their encountered. + +How true is that /his/? diff --git a/his/14904078.txt b/his/14904078.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..21d5be7fc6c61c0310c34bfb3f4385750f5351a5 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904078.txt @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +----- +--- 14904078 +How did 1 Jew convince billions of goyim dogs to love him more than their family, worship human sacrifice, drink his blood and eat his flesh? +--- 14904082 +>>14904078 (OP) +The JEW pilpuls the goatse of cuckolds to dildo the anus with soi and that is why niggos rape dogs. +--- 14904105 +It was God’s will. diff --git a/his/14904090.txt b/his/14904090.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..58ff31abe6e403a6b3a0077efb5c5ef0d7fbc441 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904090.txt @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +----- +--- 14904090 +What's your take on muscular Christianity? +--- 14904091 +>>14904090 (OP) +No such thing +--- 14904094 +>>14904091 +Google it +--- 14904100 +Christianity embodies warrior virtue as well and always has. +--- 14904109 +>>14904100 +It hasn't always a lot of catholics allowed themselves to become feeble and weak on purpose believing that's how God intended them to be +--- 14904119 +It's an absurd cope of men having an identity crisis for believing in a effeminate religion +--- 14904127 +>>14904119 +>cope +why don't brownoids learn a few more english words so they don't sound like retards on an english speaking website? +--- 14904130 +>>14904100 +Europeans redefined Christianity as a warrior ethos to appeal to their natural inclinations. Christ is not a warrior figure whatsoever. +--- 14904138 +>>14904090 (OP) +I mean whatever as long as you don’t pretend it has something to do with Jesus. +Is there any other religion where there are no gods that are explicitly in great shape with good muscles? +--- 14904151 +>>14904130 +It wasn't some post-facto redefinition. + +A lot of early missionaries to more martial tribes basically ran on a message of "our god beat death", which isn't a radical shift from old school Christus Victor theology present in early Christianity. +--- 14904155 +>>14904138 +How many times does the Bible mention the word strength? +--- 14904156 +>>14904151 +Every god beats death, they’re all immortal. Jesus is one of the only ones in any religion that even gets killed, by guys with wood and iron poles and nails nonetheless +--- 14904166 +>>14904156 +>Every god beats death, they’re all immortal. +Not in the immortality way, in the "He broke the very concepts of death and evil via heroic sacrifice' +--- 14904170 +>>14904166 +How is it heroic if he was just going to respawn three days later? +--- 14904174 +>>14904155 +Zero times, because the Bible is written in Greek and Hebrew. + +>>14904166 +This shows up in every Indo-European religion, in Shinto, and in Chinese Folk Religion. It's also the entire point of Buddhism. Jews didn't invent coming back from the dead. +--- 14904182 +>>14904155 +Physical strength? I can’t think of a single part where being physically strong is taught as a lesson beyond needing to work a physical job if at all. +If there is a lifting section of the Bible it is minuscule. +--- 14904205 +>>14904170 +>>14904174 +You are completely missing the point. +The story they ran with isn't "deity respawns", but "Evil tries to kill hero, and hero instead ontologically breaks any sort of tyranny evil has upon humanity" +--- 14904217 +>>14904205 +>but "Evil tries to kill hero, and hero instead ontologically breaks any sort of tyranny evil has upon humanity" +I’ve literally never been to a church or known a Christian who thinks humanity is free from evil. They see evil as something to be resisted. +--- 14904264 +>>14904205 +>Evil tries to kill hero, and hero instead ontologically breaks any sort of tyranny evil has upon humanity +So exactly what happens in every Indo-European religion, Shinto, and Chinese Folk religion, but ironically not what happens in Christianity. +--- 14904267 +>>14904217 +Not only that but full on psychosis and paranoia that Satan is around every corner. Christians absolutely live in fire fear of the real possibility of eternal hell. +--- 14904291 +>>14904090 (OP) +it's gay since from the Fathers of the Desert, gymnastics and working out the body has been seen as vain and futile, you should capitalize spiritual workout +--- 14904292 +>>14904217 +>I’ve literally never been to a church or known a Christian who thinks humanity is free from evil. +I suppose that you could make the argument that because 99% of Christians believe the damnable and unforgiveable heresy of rejecting bodily resurrection and instead believe that they, as gentiles, get to physically enter heaven after death that most Christians could be said to be freed from evil in as much as Jesus's sacrifice now lets gentiles into heaven. + +Having said that, this common Christian understanding of the afterlife is a literal actual modernist heresy that is rejected by every single Christian denomination, and as stated is punishable by eternal damnation, so I don't think that this really counts in the way that Thor goes around altering ontology, fighting the metaphysical decay of the universe, and what not. + +This also has the unintended consequence of making Yahweh look like a fucking psychopath as the only reason that gentiles weren't allowed into heaven in the first place was because Yahweh said that only Jews are allowed in. +--- 14904326 +>>14904151 +Yes it was lol. Christianity was completely Germanicised before it ever became widespread in N. Europe, i.e. see the Heliand. +--- 14904334 +>>14904182 +>Physical strength +Realistically that's the only real strength that exists +--- 14904587 +>>14904109 +And a lot of them became muscular and strong military leaders, such as St. Louis IX +--- 14904618 +>x christianity +Anything that adds or subtracts from Christianity is false +--- 14904626 +Pretty dang gay diff --git a/his/14904115.txt b/his/14904115.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..24a8748fc11cd8b7488f5422d43f2fd184832130 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904115.txt @@ -0,0 +1,43 @@ +----- +--- 14904115 +Are whites genetically enginereed by god to fulfill the sexual needs of brown people? +--- 14904132 +>hijra got triggered again +KEEEEEK +--- 14904137 +Hijras... not like this... the white aryan man is going to throw us into a reservation again + +our dravidian dalit bussies are literally shaking +--- 14904139 +>>14904137 +so basically everything related to indians was done by nordic aryans? its over... so over +have we dravidian dalit hijras been always slaves meant for the pleasure of aryans? a entire subcontinent of billions of people fathered by white men and our hijrancestors.... not like this they even sissified us and turned us into hijras +--- 14904144 +>>14904139 +yes, indians are a servant race, the whole caste system in india is based on aryan ancestry retention, on india the whiter you are the more "high caste" people considers you, both in skin and genetics ofc. take a telugu shudra and a telugu brahmin and the brahmin will have 700%/7 times more nordic ancestry +--- 14904152 +>>14904144 +its over, so this is why dravidian hijra pygmies are locked into reservations? +--- 14904162 +>>14904152 +yes yes basically, all Intellectuals, warriors, leaders, philosophers, elites, etc of india were aryans, while all dalits and shudras the native aboriginal stone age hijras +hijras and their alpine potato heads resembling pygmies have been engineered by aryan masters for over 5000 years to serve, this is why indians are extremely servile, dumb, ugly, weak, submissive, and smelly, they were even deprived from sense of self preservation, this is why they would even bathe in shit. +--- 14904277 +>>14904132 +>>14904137 +>>14904139 +>>14904144 +>>14904152 +>>14904162 +subhuman samefag +--- 14904300 +>>14904277 +>>14904277 +troonwitch cope. +even after 4000 years brahmins have 700% more aryan ancestry than dalit dravidian trannies +--- 14904458 +>>14904115 (OP) +With genetic engineering on the rise... brown people won't even exist by the next century +--- 14904465 +>>14904115 (OP) +Lol no diff --git a/his/14904116.txt b/his/14904116.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f2d69372b5c02bb4897eacec23a175466fddce12 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904116.txt @@ -0,0 +1,48 @@ +----- +--- 14904116 +>Al-Tīǧ ānī continues with anecdotes about ʿAbda bint ʿAbd Allāh ibn Yazīd ibn Muʿāwiya, a member of the Umayyad house who was married to the caliph Hišām ibn ʿAbd al-Malik (reigned 105-125/724-743). Quoting from the eleventh-century scholar alBīrūnī, he recounts that “she was exceedingly fat and could not stand without the help of three or four slave girls.” In a rather cruel interaction, Hišām offers her a priceless pearl if she stands up unaided; she does so with great exertion only to fall on her face and bloody her nose, upon which he gives her the pearl. The anecdote itself has nothing to say about the aesthetic or erotic valence of ʿAbda’s bulk, but once again al-Tīǧ ānī creates an artful juxtaposition, following up with a passage from another source in which she is described as so dazzlingly beautiful that she enthralls a man who is otherwise uninterested in women. This passage does not mention her fatness, just as the first did not mention her allure; put together, however, they construct a picture of a woman who is irresistibly corpulent + +>These stories are followed by one from the Kitāb al-aġānī about another woman of the Umayyad era, Hind, the daughter of Asmā’ ibn Ḫāriǧ a. The scenario involves her engagement and marriage to al-Ḥaǧ ǧ āǧ ; she is described as being so fat that her black silk shawl gets caught between her buttocks and her back, and she cannot stand up straight because of her bulk. Again, the cited passage offers no commentary on her attractiveness, although al-Ḥaǧ ǧ āǧ is certainly depicted as being very eager to secure her hand and consummate the marriage; the description of his lavish marriage gift places this woman of size within an atmosphere of luxury and prestige +--- 14904122 +>Later in the work, al-Tīǧ ānī inventories the positive and negative characteristics of individual parts of the female body. He devotes one section to the charms of rolls of stomach fat (ʿukan). While he acknowledges these to be inherently unattractive to those who prefer slender women, the discussion is largely positive; he cites a series of poetic passages praising these folds, although one emphasizes that they should be modest in size + +>He returns to the subject of fat in his discussion of the hindquarters (ardāf), pointing out that a woman is known as ʿaǧ zā’ if she has a large posterior; “This is one of the attributes of the woman who is considered attractive (al-mar’a al-mustaḥsana), [although] some have disliked for it to be excessively large…” He notes, however, that two words for women having small posteriors are universally considered to be terms of disapprobation + +>Despite his acknowledgement of varying masculine tastes, this section once again features images of prodigiously large women of the early Islamic elite. In one anecdote, ʿĀ’iša bint Ṭalḥa (the niece of the Prophet’s wife ʿĀ’iša) is described as needing two women help her to stand up. This is followed by a report in which a woman recounts how she visited ‘Ā’iša bint Ṭalḥa and mistakenly thought that there was another woman sitting behind her, so massive were her hindquarters +--- 14904126 +200 kg Arab genes +--- 14904142 +>>14904122 +Bitch showed her ankle, time to stone her +--- 14904154 +>>14904116 (OP) +>>14904122 +Do Muslim Women look like this where you live, Eurobros? + +https://fa.sexfilmer.top/video/354/جوانان-بزرگ-دانلودفیلم-سوپربکن-بکن-خارجی-طبیعی-در-حال-چکیدن-تقدیر/ +--- 14904257 +>>14904116 (OP) +>>14904122 +>>14904126 +>>14904142 +>>14904154 +I love fat asses +--- 14904319 +>>14904257 +You are me. +--- 14904366 +>>14904116 (OP) +The West Africans got to the middle east... +It's over. +--- 14904460 +>>14904116 (OP) +Bantu blood. +--- 14904847 +>>14904366 + Arabs have these butts because their male ancestors were fucking East African slave women +--- 14904850 +>>14904847 +Although to be fair those women were Bantu so >>14904460 isn’t wrong +--- 14904852 +>>14904116 (OP) +Natufian diff --git a/his/14904123.txt b/his/14904123.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b6a16d7341951b0a6c0e83ed995e6b1a736c55f6 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904123.txt @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +----- +--- 14904123 +Who would you say are the greatest knights of the Middle Ages? For me it's: +>El Cid +>William Marshal +>Henry Hotspur +>Edward the Black Prince +>Pierre Terrail +>Jean le Maingre (Boucicaut) +>Geoffroi de Charny +>Bertrand du Guesclin +>Zawisza Czarny diff --git a/his/14904148.txt b/his/14904148.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c2560cf5f014eeb94401965680148056f6ece167 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904148.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 14904148 +Which denomination’s baptisms has the most coverage? I hear that Orthodox baptisms cover Catholic baptisms but not the other way around. Protestant baptisms apparently have even less reciprocality . +--- 14904179 +Judaism. It gets you into every denomination of Christianity, and all sects of Islam. diff --git a/his/14904215.txt b/his/14904215.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2a08872d42a642659d60505ca1781e26af59601f --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904215.txt @@ -0,0 +1,43 @@ +----- +--- 14904215 +What if he had been sent to the Ostfront instead of North Africa? Would the Germans have winned? +--- 14904227 +>>14904215 (OP) +No. A decent tactician as a corps commander is not going to make or break the eastern front.. And seriously, work on your English +--- 14904241 +>>14904227 +Okay, but would they have less losted? +--- 14904248 +>>14904241 +https://search.walletgenius.com/serp?q=esl%20english%20course%20online&segment=walletg.g005&s1aid=7737749499&s1cid=9262246760&s1agid=92927010374&s1kid=kwd-355208860935&utm_source=adwords&network_type=g&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvI_Gyfmu_gIVdufjBx315A4fEAAYAiAAEgLxxvD_BwE +--- 14904283 +>>14904215 (OP) +No, they would have lost even quicker. He was a liability. +--- 14904536 +>>14904215 (OP) +No, he wasn't even that good compared to the likes of Manstein - as arrogant of a bastard, that guy was. +--- 14904538 +>>14904215 (OP) +The would have won in Britcucks didn't cuck +--- 14904653 +>>14904215 (OP) + +>Race ahead +>Supply line is cut off +>Gets encircled and destroyed. +--- 14904785 +>>14904536 +Was there a single general in WW2 besides Omar Bradley who wasn’t a giant dramatic faggot? Can’t think of one. +--- 14904812 +>>14904785 +Eisenhower +Truscott +--- 14904857 +>>14904785 + +Charisma played a major factor among the generals. Thats why mediocre generals like Kesselring were given far more command than the stone faced but natural talents like Heinrici who had to take the back seat. +--- 14904865 +>>14904538 +Retard +--- 14904918 +Rommels value was literally overrated. Hence why he was brought back to stop him dying eventually because propaganda value of him overseeing the Atlantic wall was better than him actually doing anything diff --git a/his/14904246.txt b/his/14904246.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c090d71569e931c99857c72522ea0e2f5634ee04 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904246.txt @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +----- +--- 14904246 +From what I remember reading, the traditional Chinese idea of politely expressing greetings and thanks to others was very elaborate, and many Europeans residing in China in the 19th century sought to avoid paying visits to the local officials precisely because of how tiresomely long just the obligatory niceties would usually take, especially adding in the language barrier. Usually all concerned would be polite enough, but exchanges tended to be a bit like this, repeatedly and theatrically praising the other party "Oh no, Governor Wang, YOUR great hall is magnificently decorated, compared to my mean hovel" + +"You barbarian minister have truly travelled a long distance to reach my petty office, this shows your virtue and faithfulness, despite the distance of your small barbarian tribe from us, we take note the sincerity of your desire to acquire virtue" + +Governor Wang, I have merely taken a short stroll down the road to reach your temple of virtue and justice, in fact, I must offer my pathetic apologies for not paying you a visit more often" + +"Barbarian minister, please accept this mean gift of some local trifles" + +"Oh Governor Wang, these delicacies really are too much, you needn't have put your hard-working and skilled master chef to all this trouble, please accept some pathetic rubbish I have prepared for you also, although it is unworthy" + +Etc., etc. + +Is this more or less accurate? Does this style of politeness still exist/influence modern Chinese? +--- 14904276 +no, the Chinese are probably the rudest people on earth. That said, I like Chinese rudeness more than pajeet obsequiousness. +--- 14904299 +>>14904246 (OP) +Thank Mao for communism now modern Chinese have no manner in anyway whatsoever +--- 14904365 +>>14904276 +Chinese are extremely polite in China, honestly some of the most polite people I've met frankly, I would say South Koreans are more rude, Japanese are even more polite. +That said, when they're tourists they're insufferable, they do the same transformation as Brits and Australian's and become utter cunts, not to the same obnoxious level as Brits and Australians, but insanely inconsiderate. +>>14904246 (OP) +Before the Revolution, China was an extremely heirarchical caste society to a level that can't really be understood, in the modern world. Like, say one thing wrong to someone in a higher class and you're on a one way street to essentially being a slave or having or feet cut off or some insane other punishment. +--- 14904386 +>>14904365 +>not to the same obnoxious level as Brits and Australians, but insanely inconsiderate. + + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhTAtJSZkrc [Embed] +--- 14904396 +>>14904246 (OP) +Not quite to this level personally, but there are still vestiges of it. If you’re in China and somebody offers you something, you have to say no at least once, no matter how bad you want it. If it’s something you genuinely don’t want, be prepared to decline ten or twelve times before they take the hint. Some older people still believe that if you compliment something of theirs, they are obligated to give it to you. It’s different for foreigners, but I know a Chinese guy in the US who visited family, got offered a gift, spent hours declining it before finally accepting just to get them to stop, and then the Chinese side of the family called the American side as soon as he went back to his hotel to tell them what a greedy little shit he was. + +Speaking of compliments, it’s starting to die out with the newer generation, but most people absolutely will not accept a compliment and you will be considered rude if you do. If somebody compliments you, your choice of responses is “where?”, as in, “Where’s the person you’re talking about, because it obviously couldn’t be me?” “who?”, in the same vain, or just straight up “no”. Some younger people will just say thank you nowadays, but this is absolutely not the norm. + +Now on a professional level this ass-kissing is turned up to 11. You can’t take a dump inside a company building in China without three ceremonies to commemorate and honor the wonderful friendship between the lowly Chinese company and the honorable and wondorous colleages from your grand company. It makes American meeting culture look spartan by comparison. I haven’t done any dealings with government officials, but I hear it’s the same verbal ass-kissing minus the extravagant gift-giving because they don’t want to get thrown in jail for corruption. +--- 14904427 +>>14904386 +You haven't seen Brits in Southern Europe and Australian's in South East Asia. +That video + drunk fist fighting the staff then vomiting into eachother's mouths (Big Bird, Little Bird). +--- 14904435 +>>14904365 +>China was an extremely heirarchical caste society to a level that can't really be understood, in the modern world. Like, say one thing wrong to someone in a higher class and you're on a one way street to essentially being a slave or having or feet cut off or some insane other + +This is wrong and you're confusing China with Japan's servile society. Japanese peasants could be killed for being rude to samurai. + +You could be personally rude in public in traditional China to a noble and you wouldn't get punished. +--- 14904450 +>>14904299 +--- 14904462 +>>14904435 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDlsrYU5se8 [Embed] +If you were a Serf, basically anything you did that pissed off a Landlord got you and your children beaten within an inch of your lives. +--- 14904464 +>>14904450 +Japanese are actually polite, and still is to this day. The same can't be said about Chinese +--- 14904493 +>>14904462 +Peasants were free people. They didn't have to rent from landlords and could leave any time. They literally live and rent on another person's land. + +In Japan if a samurai came to YOUR house and you didn't show respect he could kill. +--- 14904499 +>>14904464 +Japanese are only polite in public because they would get their heads smashed in by samurai, its genetically ingrained in them to worship their feudal masters who rent their karayuki san daughters off to foreign men as prostitutes. +--- 14904728 +>>14904246 (OP) +https://youtu.be/2F3Xlp8j8-k [Embed] +--- 14904765 +>>14904427 +>i.i..its...only tourists! + +Oh? Have the mainlanders learned how to stand in a line or use a wastebasket yet? +--- 14904788 +>>14904765 +>Have the mainlanders learned how to stand in a line +It took 400 years to get rid of the queue, why would they go back to it? +--- 14904938 +>>14904788 +Good one +--- 14904958 +>>14904246 (OP) +The Chinese were rather rude to foreigners during the days of the Qing Dynasty. Many diplomatic problems emerged over the Europeans not wanting to disgrace themselves by kowtowing. +--- 14904969 +>>14904788 +Queue hairstyle lasted less than 268 years in north China and far less in all of China. +--- 14904985 +>>14904969 +>Nobody cares, chinkspammer. You’re not that good at disguising yourself. +--- 14904990 +>>14904978 +Try again retard, that's not me. + +Han people never objected to wearing a queue braid, people objected to shaving the forehead diff --git a/his/14904254.txt b/his/14904254.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..72ae105a3eb0c3bf36f49436273724309f246aa2 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904254.txt @@ -0,0 +1,14 @@ +----- +--- 14904254 +Was this the peak of Islamic civilization? +--- 14904279 +>>14904254 (OP) +No +--- 14904287 +>>14904254 (OP) +Either that or the Iran/Iraq/Oman area +--- 14904328 +>>14904254 (OP) +Yes. +--- 14904823 +Yes, undoubtedly. The Muslim came to Spain and quickly forgot orthodoxy, adopting a pragmatic approach to governance and coexistence with Jews and Christians. The indulged in the pleasures of the flesh... and civilization flourished accordingly. diff --git a/his/14904262.txt b/his/14904262.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..641fc54a841d5160becf4713ba961bbba97b80a2 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904262.txt @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +----- +--- 14904262 +According to haplotards the male line grandchildren of Sally Hemmings are all anglo saxon because they carry Jeffersons Y-gene +--- 14904280 +According to skintards these twin sisters are different races despite having identical genes +--- 14904744 +>>14904280 +yes the one on the right id ignore and call a nigger and the one on the left id happily fuck up the asshole +--- 14904760 +>>14904280 +Yes, race is all about physical appearances. Only the most autistic give a shit about genetics. +--- 14904800 +>>14904262 (OP) +They would be afro-saxons but Jefferson wasn't a saxon he was haplogroup T (this thread is about haplogroups defining race). +--- 14904825 +>>14904280 +Twins can have different fathers +--- 14904839 +>>14904825 +Their father is white +Mother is mixed diff --git a/his/14904281.txt b/his/14904281.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ea6eec21d4a93c00b0b054ae6ddba11876342e68 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904281.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 14904281 +How can Tawhid possibly be reconciled with Koranic uncreatedness? +--- 14904344 +Why do online muslims use all caps so much, like they’re permanently yelling? diff --git a/his/14904333.txt b/his/14904333.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fb6c79a7a24bdeb3fdc57954afa4f28b6748b4ae --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904333.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 14904333 +Why does this board hate it when people decide to ignore their genes and force their body to be what they want? +--- 14904342 +why do you throw a massive tantrum and try to get people fired and ruin their lives for stating the fact you are not a woman +--- 14904355 +>>14904342 +who talked about women i m talking about looksmaxing +--- 14904356 +because copers gonna cope +but what they dont tell you is they also gonna seethe>>14904333 (OP) +--- 14904405 +>>14904333 (OP) +Self-improvement is always good. If you believe that you're improving and random strangers are calling you out on it, you're doing something wrong. +--- 14904438 +>>14904333 (OP) + +Personally, I have nothing against hormones. The problem comes with surgery: that is not a physiological vagina, for a lot of anatomical reason any med student can say. diff --git a/his/14904336.txt b/his/14904336.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..82e7f1ab100c65f0e2a8ef6a02c20cd6b7fb5ea5 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904336.txt @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +----- +--- 14904336 +Oklahoma is a state with close historic and cultural ties to the South. It was once part of the "lynching belt" and folk singer Woodie Guthrie, an Oklahoma native, recalled seeing lynching postcards for sale when he was a boy--his uncle participated in the lynching of Laura Nelson and her son, accused of murdering a police officer in 1911. The state also has in common with the South aggressive use of capital punishment--a total of 90 persons were executed between statehood in 1908 and 1966. In the modern era of capital punishment, the Sooner State has performed an impressive 120 executions, the most recent being Scott Eizember, executed January 12, 2023 for a double murder. + +The 82nd person executed by Oklahoma since 1976 was Eric Patton for a particularly brutal 1994 murder. On December 16, 1994, Patton, a 37 year old African-American construction worker in Edmond, in the center of the state, left his job site to buy some electrical boxes at a hardware store. He drove a co-worker's car out on this errand but when he came back about four hours later, he did not have the electrical boxes and he was inexplicably wearing his co-worker's clothes instead of the outfit he left in. +--- 14904341 +As fate would have it, Patton had driven to the home of Les and Charlene Kauer in northeast Oklahoma City--he knew the couple as he'd done home repair work for them before. He knocked on the door and Charlene, a 56 year old Blue Cross and Blue Shield worker, answered. Patton said he needed to borrow money. Charlene offered him $10 but he was angered at this inadequate sum so he forced his way into the house, grabbed her by the throat, and dragged her around looking for anything of value. He dragged Charlene to the bedroom and attempted to remove her clothing. When she continued to struggle with him, he stabbed her with knives taken from her kitchen. Charlene continued to fight him fiercely and Patton broke some of the knives in the struggle so he took to using a barbecue fork as a weapon instead. Unsure if Charlene was dead, he stabbed her in the chest with scissors. He cleaned up the crime scene a bit, removed his bloodied work clothes, and replaced them with his co-worker's coveralls. Patton threw the bloodied clothes in a field on the northwest edge of town and returned to work as if nothing had happened. + +Some time later Les Kauer discovered the grisly scene in the house and called police. Patton wasn't a suspect at first, but because he knew the Kauers he was among those brought in for questioning. After his fingerprints were discovered at the crime scene, however, he was arrested and charged with first degree murder. Patton denied having done anything but said he saw a suspicious vehicle outside the house and that he pondered if Les Kauer was involved in his own wife's death. The police noticed scratches on his face and hands, which he claimed were injuries sustained while working on a car. +--- 14904345 +Patton then claimed his co-worker, Chris Williams, had been responsible for the murder and he knew a lot about this but he couldn't say too much out of fear of other parties' safety. He partially self-incriminated by admitting that he and Williams did in fact go to the Kauers' house with the intent of committing a burglary as he knew they would not be home at that time of day. Patton said that they discovered Charlene in the house but that Williams had assaulted her and he tried to stop him which explained the cuts on his body. He said the burglary netted them a mere $14. Patton then led police to the field where he tossed the bloodied work clothes and also admitted to several convenience store robberies in the Oklahoma City area. + +Unfortunately for Patton, he kept changing his story. Some time later he said Chris Williams was actually not involved in the murder after all, but he'd had a female accomplice with him, a "strawberry", as he put it (a strawberry being a woman who exchanges sex for drugs). In this version Patton said the female accomplice had killed Charlene, while the cuts on his body had been sustained when her dog bit him. At the end of this interview, he said the accomplice of his wasn't a strawberry but a female relative of his and he would not say who she was. + +At length, Patton admitted he was the sole person responsible for stabbing Charlene to death but that he had been possessed by demons and the victim was a demon. He also said he'd taken cocaine prior to the murder and it had possibly been laced with other drugs. Patton described (as mentioned above) how he choked Charlene, removed her clothing, and stabbed her repeatedly with a variety of sharp objects, although he did not rape her. He mentioned that she fought him ferociously. Most of the forensic evidence from the crime scene corroborated his account. +--- 14904353 +He was forced by redlining and blockbusting. It wasn't his fault. He was a victim. +--- 14904354 +In lieu of the overwhelming evidence against Patton, a jury quickly found him guilty of first degree murder and burglary in a November 1996 trial. He was sentenced to death. Among aggravating circumstances, Patton had an existing criminal record and was on parole for a robbery conviction in California. + +Despite the testimony of a psychologist, Dr. John Smith, that Patton was mentally incompetent and under the influence of drugs when the murder took place, his attempts to appeal the sentence at the state and Federal level were unsuccessful and after the Supreme Court refused to hear the case, he was executed by lethal injection in the state penitentary on August 29, 2006 after eating a last meal consisting of a mushroom and sausage pizza and a grape soda. His last words were "I want to thank the guards here on death row who have been like family to me, and their lives have been a blessing to me. I've had a good life here on Earth. It's been a blessing. It's been a blast. I want to thank my savior Jesus Christ for all he's done for me. I look forward to being with him now and for eternity." +--- 14904443 +>>14904354 +>Despite the testimony of a psychologist, Dr. John Smith +no doubt whose real name was probably Jonah Silverstein +--- 14904484 +>>14904336 (OP) +Oklahoma is a giga shithole, we know. +--- 14904502 +OP is jewish +--- 14904516 +>>14904354 +According to Christfaggots this literal murderer and piece of shit will go to Heaven while a good wholesome atheist who loves his family and obeys the law will be burned in a lake of fire forever when he dies. +--- 14904520 +>>14904516 +There are no good atheists +--- 14904541 +>>14904336 (OP) +>Woodie Guthrie, an Oklahoma native, recalled seeing lynching postcards for sale when he was a boy--his uncle participated in the lynching of Laura Nelson and her son +Imagine how disappointed Woodie's based family was when they learned how much of a colossal fucking faggot he turned out to be. Maybe it was inevitable with a name like "Woodie". +--- 14904553 +>>14904541 +or how many songs can one write that have the words "fascist" or "union" in the lyrics +--- 14904630 +Oklahoma sucks, sucks, sucks. + +>worst weather ever--either Sahara Desert heat, frigid cold, or extreme tornadoes/hail/thunderstorms +>cops are extreme rednecks/weekend Klansmen +>still practices de-facto if not de jure racial segregration +>no good landscapes, just a flat dusty shithole +>95% of people voted for Drumpf +>anyone who is remotely different (ie. an atheist/freethinker, not a Rethuglican, a member of the LGBT community) is looked at like they dropped in from the planet Neptune +--- 14904645 +>>14904630 +I don't see a single thing wrong with anything you just said +--- 14904658 +>>14904645 +IDK even if you like the politics the weather still sucks and it's flat and ugly like all of the Midwest. my state may be a corrupt shit hole controlled by Democrat machines but it's a lot more habitable from a climate and aesthetic standpoint. +--- 14904687 +>>14904484 +the further north in the Plains you go the softer and more anti-capital punishment they get +--- 14904708 +>>14904687 +As OP said Oklahoma is a lot more like the South culturally while the northern Plains were settled by cucked Germans and Scandis who practiced Lutheranism and Pietism. Minnesota decided to get rid of capital punishment after a botched public hanging in 1913 while in the South they'd be like "oh well he murdered people he deserved to suffer some." +--- 14904714 +>>14904658 +You're a self-admitted nigger loving faggot. You also have the nerve to call +yourself a freethinker when you are yet another lobotomized kike golem participating in a divide and conquer game. You eagerly submit to control freaks that want to flood every corner of the country with feral niggers and spics. That's honeslty pathetic. +--- 14904723 +>>14904714 +I wasn't the guy who posted the greentext. +--- 14904754 +>>14904714 +You're delusional. Just because you think you're not apart of the "divide and conquer" game doesn't mean you're actually not in the game. You simply decide to join the red team instead of the blue team. Why do you niggers say this shit and act like you've escaped the matrix? +--- 14904773 +>>14904723 +My bad then. Anon needs to get off reddit and actually live life. +>STATE IS BAD BECAUSE DRUMPF +What a faggot holy shit. + Atheists cannot necessarily be considered free thinkers either. We have secular laws, secular education, a secular media feeding us information. +--- 14904778 +>>14904754 +>I know I'm a lobotomized NPC... but what are you? +Kwab +--- 14904802 +>>14904658 +>the weather still sucks and it's flat and ugly like all of the Midwest +This. Big reason why I probably won't stray too far from the west coast despite the out of control libtardery. +--- 14904846 +>>14904341 +bet she called him the N word so he couldn't help himself and was driven to kill out of desperation +--- 14904864 +>>14904516 +I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said "Consider how awful men are with religion and then consider what they would be like without it." +--- 14904877 +>>14904778 +>AHHHH EVERYONE BUT ME IS A NPC, NOW WATCH AS I FEED MYSELF BACK INTO THE IMPOSED DICHOTOMY OF LEFT VS RIGHT I'M THE ONLY TRUE INTELLECTUAL +--- 14904902 +>>14904877 +Liberals are literally all NPCs, yes. We are not the same either. I respect my rights. You are a bug shaped like a human. +--- 14904922 +>>14904902 +i guess that's why they all gravitate to urban living as it's basically a giant insect colony +--- 14904979 +>>14904922 +They are created in those places. Factories for obedient dogooders diff --git a/his/14904338.txt b/his/14904338.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1097806bf1ca34d89ad33aa5729ab39ac6cd4a5c --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904338.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 14904338 +Any /his/ approved youtubers? +--- 14904347 +https://www.youtube.com/@AtunSheiFilms +https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSkzHxIcfoEr69MWBdo0ppg +and use newpipe or else the spooks'll get you diff --git a/his/14904343.txt b/his/14904343.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3f27b39daf7b34eec259523a6597ddec1baaf031 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904343.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 14904343 +what are the most based letters from /his/tory? some of my favorites are +>napoleon telling josephine "dont wash" because he will be home soon and wants to huff her rancid musk +>Wilhelm 2 telling his mom about his wet dreams about her +>karl marx begging engels to pay his rent +--- 14904360 +The one where Marx calls a guy "niggerskull" is even better than the famous Ferdinand Lassalle one for me +--- 14904380 +James Joyce's letters to Nora +--- 14904447 +>>14904343 (OP) +The classic +--- 14904600 +Roses are red +Violets are bigger +Ferdinand Lasalle +You are a stupid diff --git a/his/14904363.txt b/his/14904363.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..283b89325b8029997580fc1b117c390c7c4c82fa --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904363.txt @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +----- +--- 14904363 +>If an owner found that his male slave was having a sexual relationship with a free woman, the law required that he warn the couple three times to break it off. If the affair continued, he had the right to take ownership of the woman.[500] + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_in_ancient_Rome#Master-slave_relations +--- 14904370 +>>14904363 (OP) +stop using wikipedia as your source shit for brains +--- 14904377 +>>14904370 +fpbp +--- 14904383 +>>14904363 (OP) +God the Romans were based. You could just wander over the next hill and kidnap some qt and she'd legally be your wife +--- 14904419 +>>14904363 (OP) +I remember reading about a woman who got her two sons killed for her slave boyfriend. +--- 14904423 +>Although women's genitals appear often in invective and satiric verse as objects of disgust, they are rarely referred to in Latin love elegy.[332] Ovid, the most heterosexual of the classic love poets, is the only one to refer to giving a woman pleasure through genital stimulation.[333] Martial writes of female genitalia only insultingly, describing one woman's vagina as "loose ... as the foul gullet of a pelican".[334][335] The vagina is often compared to a boy's anus as a receptacle for the phallus.[336][337] + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_in_ancient_Rome#Female_genitals diff --git a/his/14904390.txt b/his/14904390.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..648e7ebe664000fd19b1ba873e7afd95d4988c5f --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904390.txt @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +----- +--- 14904390 +>life is... +> *Takes a deep breatjh* +>what you make of it +wow real fucking insight you n***** +--- 14904397 +he's a signatory of the pedo petition too, what a joke, and /lit/ worships him as a literal god +--- 14904402 +>>14904397 +>ad hominen +--- 14904407 +>life is without meaning and so its suffering +>but uh you cant jsut kill yourslef because itssss.... bad! +>instead, you have to just tough it and in order to "spite life" like a fucking 3 year old +>and then youll be happy, and to prove it im going to write an extended fan fic ending to an old myth that was about not being a smug cunt +one of the most renowned existentialists despite being completely retarded diff --git a/his/14904393.txt b/his/14904393.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0e795c553b9740503875421ea06f1b1f9bd11e70 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904393.txt @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +----- +--- 14904393 +TOTAL +MORMON +DEATH +--- 14904428 +>TOTAL MORMON DEATH +>"Jehovah Witnesses'" +you complete fucking failure +--- 14904444 +>>14904393 (OP) +>>14904428 +Funny enough Mormons and nazis were cool with each other. Good riddance to those JW freaks though. +--- 14904455 +>>14904444 +they were also killed you fucking condom psa +--- 14904475 +>>14904455 +No. Not as a group. Only individually if they stepped out of line, which means their status was no different from any other potential dissident. They were mostly compliant or supportive of the regime. +--- 14904506 +>>14904475 +yes, indeed as a group they were killed towards the end lmao +--- 14904513 +>>14904506 +Source? I can't find anything that says that. I double checked just now, from wiki: +>Under the Nazi Government of 1933 - 1945, no Mormon congregation was stopped from worshipping and few individual Mormons were persecuted (and only for transgressions that any German of the time would have been punished for).[16] Gestapo agents silently attended services, likely investigating neighbors' complaints of seditious activities, but no punishment came to the church. +--- 14904517 +>>14904513 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints_in_Germany diff --git a/his/14904409.txt b/his/14904409.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e4b3ab22fe3b1112442570efca681d59193757ff --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904409.txt @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +----- +--- 14904409 +Lets start a thread with the stupidest things leftists believe. + +>Debt is caused by the evil neoliberals when they cut spending +Because as we all know the less we spend the more in debt we get!! + +>The real free market is socialist +Because in a real free market there is no private property, and sellers sell stuff that doesn't belong to theem, and buyers buy stuff that won't belong to them anyway! +--- 14904441 +>>14904409 (OP) +>Nonwhites deserve to live +--- 14904451 +Not /pol/. What does this have to do with history or humanities? +--- 14904454 +>>14904451 +These retarded beliefs have influenced history in lots of ways +--- 14904467 +>crimes of necessity +>duty to retreat +>no human is illegal +>gender pay gap +--- 14904481 +>>14904451 +>Anthropology is the study of the origin and development of human societies and cultures. +--- 14904593 +Who has ever said the free market is socialist +--- 14904605 +>>14904441 +Not all non-whites +East Asia is based and will fix the problems the west failed to fix +--- 14904644 +>>14904467 +>gender pay gap +This is probably the most pernicious lie still being perpetuated. It's so fucking insidious the way they misrepresent shit like this. They know that "pay gap" makes people think "women are paid less for same work" but that's not what it is. Women EARN less because they work fewer hours on average than men for the SAME PAY. If women were cheaper to hire then any business with razor-thin margins would hire women exclusively, glad for the 30% haircut to employee overhead. +--- 14904657 +>>14904644 +Thats the funniest part, when they say companies pay men more just because, they're saying that those evil capitalists who according to them only care about profits, suddenly stop caring about profits to pay men more. +--- 14904688 +>>14904657 +Are you really suggesting that they put that much thought into the claim? +--- 14904713 +>>14904409 (OP) + +I think everyone secretly wants her to become president because it would unironically be a real chance for a civil war. +--- 14904763 +>>14904409 (OP) +>>Debt is caused by the evil neoliberals when they cut spending +I'm pretty sure they blame it on neoliberals cutting taxes, which it true +--- 14904771 +>>14904409 (OP) +Being lax on crime works +--- 14904780 +>>14904763 +Laffer Curve to the rescue +--- 14904796 +>>14904771 +In NYC they let criminals loot stores and just release them shortly. Last year 327 people were arrested/rearrested 6000 times, and these 327 people accounted for 1/3 of shoplifting arrests +--- 14904827 +>>14904780 +Yes, and America's tax rates, the ones set by Republicans, are on the left of that curve. Tax cuts haven't increased revenue for the government +--- 14904843 +>>14904827 +Except tax revenue as a percentage of GDP has remained more or less stable since 1950 +--- 14904855 +>>14904605 +The same east Asia that is currently collapsing due to shit birth rates kek Korea will be done for by 2050. Kinda cringe how whites salivate as they daydream about Chang enslaving Tyrone +--- 14904890 +>>14904843 +Regardless of how it compares to GDP those cuts are still hurting government revenue and contributing massively to the deficit +--- 14904898 +>>14904890 +It almost looks like the government is spending too much. +--- 14904988 +>>14904898 +Or making too little diff --git a/his/14904494.txt b/his/14904494.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..cd5f5e986501b9b9789932b32a9c7fc703ac69fe --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904494.txt @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +----- +--- 14904494 +In the Greek New Testament. +Presbyteros = Catholic priest. +Episkopos = Catholic bishop. + +It's not that complicated. +--- 14904535 +OP has never read the New Testament +--- 14904547 +>>14904535 + +>OP has never read the New Testament. I am very good at theology! +--- 14904558 +Whoops! I mean to post this in >>14903514 →, where I was losing an argument! +--- 14904807 +OP has never heard of Daniel Wallace diff --git a/his/14904508.txt b/his/14904508.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8128f7998b448818811923972397d5a6b01d3c9e --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904508.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 14904508 +TOTAL GAULLS GENOCIDE +TOTAL CHARTAGE ANNIHILATION +TOTAL NBARBARIANS CIVILIZATION diff --git a/his/14904548.txt b/his/14904548.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..85b7297e5c5fc1885e182bb4b4df42247f18032f --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904548.txt @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +----- +--- 14904548 +So the Abrahamic God created humans with the express knowledge that the vast majority of them would go on to reject him and suffer eternally in hellfire? What an asshole. Fuck that guy. +--- 14904942 +>>14904548 (OP) +Yahweh couldnt even predict Adam and Eve would rebel. diff --git a/his/14904556.txt b/his/14904556.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3900f8919abfc23149f321144a8084d6e96738be --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904556.txt @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +----- +--- 14904556 +How did the Orthodox end up with a different date for Easter then the Catholics? +--- 14904565 +>>14904556 (OP) +Because they're retarded. +--- 14904583 +>>14904556 (OP) +We have a different date for pretty much everything because we refused to skip a bunch of days to account for old calendar inaccuracies. While we understand why Catholics would feel better having "correct" dates for particular feasts, we felt that skipping days breaks feast continuity... which is the very point of having a calendar. +Although lately with Russia being Russia more and more people are calling for Christmas at least to be aligned with Roman dates. +--- 14904595 +>>14904556 (OP) +It's a contradiction in the Bible. One of many. One account places the date where the westerners celebrate. The other one places the date where the Orthodox celebrate it. +--- 14904610 +>>14904595 +That is not even close to being true. +--- 14904642 +they still use the Julian calendar or the revised version of it you retards, Catholics switched to Gregorian centuries ago and Protestants just copied them and pretend they're special and different + +in contrast the Orthos just kept trucking like nothing changed +--- 14904679 +>>14904565 +>retards arguing which of their fantasy dates is the more "accurate" one +at least orthodox bros aren't seething and malding on /his/ +--- 14904715 +>>14904556 (OP) +IIRC, because Orthodox note that Easter must come after the Jewish Passover, as a logical sequence. +This was not really mentioned in the Ecumenical Council that defined the Paschal calculation because Easter would come after Passover by default with Julian Calendar. But it isn't so with Gregorian Calendar. +desu, I would rather have us celebrate Easter by Astronomical Standards (like Gregorian) even if to not be dependent on the Jewish festival, which was the primary purpose of the creation of the Paschal calculation in the first place. +t. Orthodox +--- 14904910 +>>14904556 (OP) +Catholics formulated the calendar to be much more accurate but the Orthodox just kept to the old one out of spite similar to how they nearly became Calvinist and permitted the Anglican Church intercommunion until it became too pozzed purely out of spite for Catholics diff --git a/his/14904564.txt b/his/14904564.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..04c0e4db24f11594ed6e5af39ee0879db2632920 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904564.txt @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@ +----- +--- 14904564 +>Turks were whiter than Byzantines +Greek bros... How do we recover from this? +--- 14904572 +>>14904564 (OP) +What study is this from and these aren't modern Turks +--- 14904576 +>>14904564 (OP) +It's the spiritual content that matters. Most ancient people are darker than their modern counterparts anyway +--- 14904577 +>>14904572 +>were +--- 14904663 +>>14904564 (OP) +more of them have dark skin. Steppe ancestry is a lot higher in the medieval samples interestingly, I'm not sure if they have slavic admixture or if turks brought more of it into the region than greeks did. +You'd have to look at them more closely. +--- 14904735 +>>14904572 +Those are samples from the Southern Arc papers. +--- 14904777 +>>14904663 +Bros.... +--- 14904797 +>>14904564 (OP) +i unironically like turks more than greeks + +it would be epic if turks were accepted christianity instead of islam +--- 14904824 +>>14904564 (OP) +Do we have Ionian Greek samples? I know we have three samples from a Carian city, anything else? +--- 14904836 +>>14904824 +We have 750-500 BC Mugla samples. Everything before during the historical era is poorly sampled outside of south-eastern anatolia. +--- 14904867 +>>14904836 +What do we know about them both? Are we sure they're Greeks? +--- 14904924 +>>14904564 (OP) +>>14904777 +What Twitter autist is posting these? Is it spacemarine or something? +--- 14904960 +>>14904867 +I have no clue. The site descriptions in the supplement are more clear about the Bodrum set. Which has more historical greek contact (Halicarnassus made by Greeks). They seem to have varying levels of levantine, greek and carian ancestry. +The Mugla set has less site information, has less steppe (so probably less Greek) but also less levantine. I looked at the HGs but it's difficult to determine which are native and which are minoan/greek because the two regions are interconnected (recent ChL anatolian geneflow in Minoans). + +We also don't know how representative the Yassitepe samples are of Luwics, or if there is any regional substructure further south. +--- 14904977 +The Anatolian samples are pulled towards Aegean compared to Bronze Age samples. I think many of them are genuine Greeks. diff --git a/his/14904612.txt b/his/14904612.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9f567e09ce01c69299c612e0d53314f4651cf12a --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904612.txt @@ -0,0 +1,14 @@ +----- +--- 14904612 +>From 663 to 668 Syracuse was the seat of the Greek-speaking Emperor Constans II, as well as a capital of the Byzantine (Eastern Roman) Empire and metropolis of the whole Sicilian Church. Constans II was assassinated when his plans to permanently replace the Byzantine capital of Constantinople with Syracuse became suspected. +VGH you will never see Roman thalassocracy based in Syracvsae +--- 14904682 +>>14904612 (OP) +Think about if this guy actually replaced the capital with fucking Syracuse. It would get conquered by Arabs within 100 years and Constantinople even if it did survive an attack (which it probably would) +wouldn't have as much legitimacy since it no longer was the capital. Overall one of the most retarded and cowardly decisions of that time. +--- 14904770 +>>14904682 +Syracuse was a great power long before muh Rome +--- 14904783 +>>14904770 +Yea but was a former greek colony which would be a middle power at best if independent more powerful than the gargantuan caliphate which held the whole former Sassanid empire and over half of the Roman Empire? diff --git a/his/14904613.txt b/his/14904613.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d7727787455c75d18f3040891286a5f0534fe3a0 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904613.txt @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +----- +--- 14904613 +>I hate the West because of... LE JOSEPH MCCARTHY +Why were boomers so buck broken by McCarthy? diff --git a/his/14904629.txt b/his/14904629.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1f69e2633ed17dc2dcf931fa710ba93abbce6acb --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904629.txt @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +----- +--- 14904629 +Egyptians in 2560 BC... +--- 14904632 +...and blacks in 16th century AD. How is it possible to be THIS inferior to people that lived more than four thousand years ago? +--- 14904656 +>>14904632 +Unironically socio-economic factors +t. very racist when needed +--- 14904724 +>>14904632 +that's pretty sovlfvll diff --git a/his/14904635.txt b/his/14904635.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..92f965475edd20b757bcff0babd093c796403cb9 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904635.txt @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +----- +--- 14904635 +Did that many Germans actually immigrate to South America or were they just more hard working? +--- 14904654 +>>14904635 (OP) +>half timbered +monkey tier shit, german peak architecture is hanseatic +--- 14904665 +>>14904635 (OP) +Mostly to Argentina and Brazil +Kinda sad how despite so much Euro immigration to Argentina it still wasnt enough to thoroughly bleach them and ended it being a mutt country like the rest of Latin America +--- 14904669 +>>14904635 (OP) +they did but those South Brazilian towns are fake as shit. +--- 14904699 +>>14904669 +I always forget British involvement in places like Chile. Maybe not that significant but the history is there i guess. +--- 14904717 +>>14904665 +Half of Argies are Euros with no native ancestry whatsoever. The other half are mostly the Bolivian, Peruvian, Paraguay immigrants and their children... a nonstop stream of immigrants since the 1970s. + +Bolivia still has Africa-tier birthrates so Argentina will be fully brown by 2050. +--- 14904729 +>>14904717 +>Half of Argies are Euros with no native ancestry whatsoever. +Huge overstatement. Most phenotypically white Argentines do have detectable non-European ancestry, it's just a fairly small amount of admixture. +--- 14904740 +>>14904717 +they'll go back eventually. +>Bolivia still has Africa-tier birthrates +Fuck no their birthrate is 2.5 and falling on 1% per year. +--- 14904745 +>>14904729 +I'm talking about genetic testing. Phenotypes are subjetive as fuck. Between 44% - 53% have no (as in zero) native ancestry at all. There's another 10% or so that could pass as white but I am not counting those. +--- 14904787 +>>14904717 +> +--- 14904799 +>>14904787 +>15 nitpicked pictures of random retards +>And also Menem, Syrian converted to catholicism.. +>No one has been white in Argentina, ever +It's settled guise. +--- 14904810 +>>14904799 +>random retards +argie, dont lie, you know atleast half of them and theres a good chance youre related to one +--- 14904838 +>>14904787 +>muh cherrypicked pictures +Anyone can cherrypick a picture to represent whatever they wish. + +Why does it trigger you so much? +44% have no native ancestry. You used to post these studies to attack us, remember? Now you seek to deny white people exist at all. + +Why do you care? + +https://www.mapuche.info/indgen/clarin050116.html +--- 14904849 +>>14904838 +99% of argentina are mutt goblin people who live in shanty towns. Sorry to burst your bubble, anon, but its glaringly obvious. +--- 14904851 +>>14904838 +BTW if we used the same bar to measure Mexico or Chile (one drop of native makes you non-white) then 96.7% of Chileans are not white and nearly every single Mexican is not white. + +https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5127147/ +--- 14904863 +>>14904838 +Its ok anon, we all remember when argentina won the world cup and how all the niggers were seething and calling them racist whiteys +--- 14904869 +>>14904851 +>96.7% of Chileans are not white and nearly every single Mexican is not white. +This is true though? +--- 14904882 +>>14904863 +Niggers seethe about everyone, still doesn’t make latinos white +--- 14904901 +>>14904882 +Nations are made up, there are whites there just as there are whites in every continent +--- 14904929 +>>14904810 +Ok, I do know who Christina and che are but no I am not Argentinian so I don't have to care about these mutts. +--- 14904935 +>>14904849 +You have never even gone to the Americas. +The moment retards learned to imitate the authoritative tone was the moment it was over for language. diff --git a/his/14904671.txt b/his/14904671.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1a5604a5aa505df73fdf62d765a2fa6070a8a336 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904671.txt @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +----- +--- 14904671 +>0% of animals are theists +>100% of human tribes were theists by the time of writing +Did evolution select against ancient atheists until they went extinct? Pic unrelated. +--- 14904683 +>>14904671 (OP) +Spirituality is a useful tool for survival. Evolution favors survival. Probably simple as that. +Also, theism is true, which helps a lot. Christ is risen. +--- 14904793 +>>14904671 (OP) +Evolution has selected in favor of pattern seeking and anthropomorphism/agency seeking, religion and magic are side effects of that: seeing agents and causal relationships that don't exist +--- 14904973 +>>14904671 (OP) +Religion is dying while irreligion is growing, pic related + +Your false religion will die out + +>>14904683 +>theism is true +LMAO. Yeah and I'm the Pope. I bet you believe I am don't you? diff --git a/his/14904693.txt b/his/14904693.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..57d87c9688620b288cbe3a73015989595a8d409d --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904693.txt @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +----- +--- 14904693 +>claim to fame is memorizing the bible +>doesn't even know the whole thing + +Why hasn't there been a hafiz of the bible in a millennia? diff --git a/his/14904718.txt b/his/14904718.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b69d27423457ad932cfca396a6d59d162afa8cdb --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904718.txt @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +----- +--- 14904718 +Just saw patton and it was pretty kino. Just one question though, are there any pics of the nazi HQ in real life, or was this set just exaggerated for effect? diff --git a/his/14904726.txt b/his/14904726.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7e0a89012eb0f9a92cab1d7b437277521b078f82 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904726.txt @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ +----- +--- 14904726 +You are a 165 cm manlet with prey eyes and submissive complession. +Women are utterly repulsed by your face, no man will ever show respect toward you. +You think that having the right haplogroup will change that, but it wont. +You will die alone morodovix +--- 14904733 +/his/ - History & Humanities + +t. 1,88m chad with mesocephalic skull and deep set eyes +--- 14904806 +>>14904733 +>He isnt 2m +--- 14904962 +>>14904726 (OP) +BRO BUT I LIFT WEIGHTS AND INGEST SNAKE OIL A GRIFTER SELLS OVER TELEGRAM GRR +--- 14904975 +>>14904726 (OP) +> incel homosexual erotica +No thanks lol diff --git a/his/14904730.txt b/his/14904730.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..de857e4ceeec6718e0900527e4350234edc7b18b --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904730.txt @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +----- +--- 14904730 +>Ireland and armenia instantly convert to christianity +how do r1bs know that another r1b is behind it? do they communicate with telepathy? diff --git a/his/14904737.txt b/his/14904737.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..91aa8dcb4194a7769fc6c381283151966c20624d --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904737.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 14904737 +>Christ is Risen!!!! +--- 14904833 +that was a week ago diff --git a/his/14904758.txt b/his/14904758.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..349e6698ca0208daba9b4ed21a88aee31cc851ec --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904758.txt @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +----- +--- 14904758 +shitalians disgusting diff --git a/his/14904776.txt b/his/14904776.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9dc893b6608edae7817d4ed84c1f0fa28765b6a6 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904776.txt @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@ +----- +--- 14904776 +Why are tradfags so eager to excuse tomboys when it comes to gender and degeneracy? +--- 14904786 +Tomboys aren‘t transgender and don‘t inherently have to be degenerate. +--- 14904794 +>women with short hair +>men chopping their balls off +these are clearly the exact same thing +--- 14904819 +>>14904776 (OP) +because tomboys are actually natural occurences and perfectly adapted to a stable, healthy, growing society? +The idea that, for most of history, where most people were poor as shit, had the status to match, and were more concerned with the survival of the household than the individual, being agrarians and all that, why _wouldn't_ women do similar, if not outright the same, manual tasks, exercices and activities as males? +The "barefoot and pregnant" meme is a twentieth century novelty, in fact beforehand the correct formula would be "booted in mud and manure, and pregnant". +--- 14904842 +>>14904776 (OP) +Better tomboys than FtM trannies +--- 14904853 +Because they want to be pegged by short haired women. It's not that deep. They're just a bunch of dumb sluts who want to have their prostate pounded. +--- 14904859 +>>14904853 +Dilate +--- 14904878 +>>14904819 +Howabout femboys. +--- 14904883 +uou +--- 14904897 +i find women attractive, even when dressed as men, because i want to undress them and fuck them +i do not find men attractive, even when dressed as women, because i do not want to have sex with a man +--- 14904909 +>>14904776 (OP) +>tomgirl +based +>muscle girl who is making herself barren working out +not based diff --git a/his/14904856.txt b/his/14904856.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ab7d1e4f726f12927e00e00c0dc3c2ce897b4166 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904856.txt @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +----- +--- 14904856 +Cato the Elder + +>Descendant of the noble gens Procia. +>Deployed in the Punic Wars as a military tribune at the age of 20 +>"It is recorded that the services of Cato contributed to the decisive and important victory of Sena at the Battle of the Metaurus, where Hasdrubal was slain" +>In the pauses between campaigns Cato returned to his Sabine farm, where he dressed simply, working and behaving like his laborers +>Through the Porcian Laws, he banned degrading punishment (like whipping, scourging, or crucifixion) on Roman citizens +>Deployed in Hipsania. "The details of the campaign, as related by Livy, and illustrated by incidental anecdotes by Plutarch, are full of horror and they make clear that Cato reduced Hispania Citerior to subjection with great speed and little mercy." +>"Bellum se ipsum alet" +>Deployed in Greece to fight against the Persians. "By a daring and difficult advance, he surprised and defeated a body of the enemy's Aetolian auxiliaries, who were posted upon the Callidromus, the highest peak of the range of Mount Oeta. Then, coming to the aid of forces under Flaccus's command, he began a sudden descent from the hills above the royal camp, and the panic caused by this unexpected movement promptly turned the day in favor of the Romans, and signaled the end of the Seleucid invasion of Greece. After the action, the consul hugged Cato with the greatest warmth and attributed to him the whole credit of the victory." +--- 14904861 +>"Cato was opposed to the spread of Hellenic culture, which he believed threatened to destroy the rugged simplicity of the conventional Roman type. It was during this censorship that his determination to oppose Hellenism was most strongly exhibited, and hence, the behavior from which was derived the title (censor) by which he is most generally distinguished." +>"He revised with unsparing severity the lists of senators and knights, ejecting from either order the men whom he judged unworthy of membership, either on moral grounds or on the basis of their lack of the prescribed means." +>Only spoke in latin to Greeks, even if he was fluent in greek +>Rem tene, verba sequentur +>"In 181 BC he supported the lex Orchia, which prescribed a limit to the number of guests at an entertainment, and in 169 BC the lex Voconia, one of the provisions of which was intended to limit the accumulation of what Cato considered an undue amount of wealth in the hands of women." +>Among other things he repaired the aqueducts, mended as well as extended the sewage system, and prevented private persons from drawing off public water for their own use. +>"He was struck with horror at the licence of the Bacchanalian mysteries, which he attributed to the influence of Greek manners, and he vehemently urged the dismissal of the philosophers Carneades, Diogenes, and Critolaus, who had come as ambassadors from Athens, on account of what he believed was the dangerous nature of their ideas. He also uttered warnings against the influence of Chaldean astrologers who had entered Italy along with Greek culture" +--- 14904866 +>>14904856 (OP) +Nose big +--- 14904871 +>Obtained the release of Polybius, the historian, and his fellow prisoners, contemptuously asking whether the Senate had nothing more important to do than discuss whether a few Greeks should die at Rome or in their own land +>(((Carthago))) delenda est +>"According to Ben Kiernan, Cato may have made the first recorded incitement to genocide" +>Wrote a comfy manual on running a farm. +>Wrote Praecepta ad Filium, "Maxims addressed to his son, from which the following extract survives: "In due course, my son Marcus, I shall explain what I found out in Athens about these Greeks, and demonstrate what advantage there may be in looking into their writings (while not taking them too seriously). They are a worthless and unruly tribe. Take this as a prophecy: when those folk give us their writings they will corrupt everything." +>"Some have argued that if it were not for the impact of Cato's writing, Latin might have been supplanted by Greek as the literary language of Rome." diff --git a/his/14904858.txt b/his/14904858.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8d2acf90fe5742304614cc78c53a0b78472e97af --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904858.txt @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +----- +--- 14904858 +How would cognitive behavioral therapy even be used for depression, if the main criteria for depression is a genetically-predisposed chemical imbalance? +--- 14904892 +>just be happy +wtf it isn't as simple as that the human mind is too complex you clearly don't know the first thing about mental health +>visualize yourself in a positive environment free from any unhappiness +SO true! +--- 14904905 +>>14904858 (OP) +There are very few mental illnesses that there AREN'T genetic pre-dispositions for in general. And while many forms of depression might be physiological in nature, cognitive-behavioral theraphy can help you not have your thought process spiral and give into the depression. In short, it will help you not skip the gym. +--- 14904953 +>>14904905 +>spiral +Here's what actually happens +>fuck, i dont feel anything +>eat something +>whack off +>fuck, i dont feel anything +--- 14904968 +>>14904858 (OP) +Pre-disposition doesn’t mean destiny, it means you’re more likely to develop that disorder. Doesn’t mean you’re definitely going to get it or can’t beat it if it’s something like anxiety or depression +--- 14904976 +>>14904968 +Dude, I dont feel anything +--- 14904984 +>>14904858 (OP) +>chemical imbalance +I'm not sure how much psychologists actually believe that anymore, at least not as an explanation for why SSRIs work +>genetically-predisposed +But if we still assume that depression is caused entirely by some unchanging, biological quality like genetics that doesn't mean you couldn't use therapy to treat the psychological symptoms, you just couldn't cure the root cause +--- 14904991 +>>14904984 +Ok so what can fix depression diff --git a/his/14904862.txt b/his/14904862.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5af6d08668de31cf5bfccb8afd5911ab52ffa975 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904862.txt @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@ +----- +--- 14904862 +>The medieval English wool trade was one of the most important factors in the medieval English economy. The medievalist John Munro notes that "[n]o form of manufacturing had a greater impact upon the economy and society of medieval Britain than did those industries producing cloths from various kinds of wool."[1] The trade's liveliest period, 1250–1350, was 'an era when trade in wool had been the backbone and driving force in the English medieval economy'.[2] + +>The wool trade was a major driver of enclosure (the privatisation of common land) in English agriculture, which in turn had major social consequences, as part of the British Agricultural Revolution. + +>Among the lasting monuments to the success of the trade are the 'wool churches' of East Anglia and the Cotswolds; the London Worshipful Company of Clothworkers; and the fact that since the fourteenth century, the presiding officer of the House of Lords has sat on the Woolsack, a chair stuffed with wool. + +Amazes me how something as basic as farming sheep became influential in the world as we know it. Without this England wouldn’t have developed as well or had so much intrinsic private enterprises. Without that England wouldn’t have become a colonial power that went on to dominate the world and spread its culture far and wide +--- 14904868 +>During the early Anglo-Saxon period (c. 450–650), archaeological evidence for subsistence-level wool production using warp-weighted looms is extensive. Tools and technologies of spinning and weaving were similar to those of the Roman period; it is likely that fine, white wool continued to be produced from sheep introduced from the Mediterranean region alongside coarser local wools. Dyes included woad for blue and less frequently madder and lichens for reds and purples. Some high-status woollen cloth is found, including gold brocade.[3] New textile types appeared around the tenth century, prominently including diamond twills whose use continued into the thirteenth century.[4] There is little evidence for long-distance trade, but there seems to have been some, presumably of especially rare wools or cloths:[5] the silence of the sources is punctuated by a famous mention of the slipping standards of English cloaks exported to Francia in a letter from Charlemagne to Offa of Mercia. By the eleventh century, however, sheep were numerous in England, and at least some export of their wool by low German merchants was taking place; Peter Sawyer argued that wool was already a major source of wealth and an important export commodity in England at this time.[6] +--- 14904876 +>Subsistence-level production of wool continued,[7] but was overshadowed by the rise of wool as a commodity, which in turn encouraged demand for other raw materials such as dyestuffs; the rise of manufacturing; the financial sector; urbanisation; and (since wool and related raw materials had a high value-to-weight ratio and were easily transported) regional, international, and even intercontinental trade.[8] + +>English wools, particularly from the Welsh Marches, the South West and Lincolnshire, were the most prized in medieval Europe.[9] It was exported to the emergent urban centres of cloth production of the Low Countries, France, and Italy, where production was promoted by the adoption of the pedal-driven horizontal loom and spinning wheel, along with mechanised fulling and napping.[10] + +>In 1280 about 25,000 sacks of wool were exported from England; trade in raw wool peaked around 40,000–45,000 sacks per year, falling to 33,000 in 1355 and 9,706 in 1476 as exports changed to finished cloth. As exports of raw wool fell, exports of cloths rose, from 10,000 cloths per year in 1349–50 to 60,000 in 1446–47, and c. 140,000 in 1539–40.[11] 'By the end of the thirteenth century, the heavily industrialised areas of Europe could not have existed without the export of English wool.' +--- 14904888 +Many of the churches you can find in England are actually “wool churches” funded by wealthy farmers who funded their building as a gift to the church in hopes of buying a place in heaven. +--- 14904932 +>>14904888 +This is why you can often find huge churches in England far from the large population centers. Because while in mainland Europe they typically developed inside cities or next to them. In England they were more focused on just being built near the farmer who funded them who obviously lived rurally and not near a lot of people. diff --git a/his/14904872.txt b/his/14904872.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b1098fc2468e8c4b707c8674a336f60ae3fa81fb --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904872.txt @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +----- +--- 14904872 +ACKtheist never recovered +--- 14904884 +>>14904872 (OP) +Not an atheist, but math doesn't contain infinite information. Some of the implications of mathematical ideas or concepts would take an infinite time to spell out, but mathematics as a field of inquiry contains a finite amount of information. +--- 14904886 +>>14904872 (OP) +Answer: the universe is infinite +--- 14904893 +>christ-ACKS think all math was somehow made simultaneously +--- 14904894 +I like this zoomers youtube videos diff --git a/his/14904923.txt b/his/14904923.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b7132c1bf1d2e00d7660f86f933a6d58484eb86c --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904923.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 14904923 +If Turks had accepted Christianity at their peak, would it have been possible for them to become the leading power of the Western World? +--- 14904966 +>>14904923 (OP) +When was their peak? The Ottomans? Far too late for them to turn Christian at that point, they'd been Muslims for 500 years already. Only way they'd turn Christian is with a Byzantine total victory over the Sultanate of Rum and a couple hundred years of assimilation. Too bad the Byzantine Emperors were more preoccupied with the Normans and crusaders rather than the existential threat of the Turks. +--- 14904981 +>>14904923 (OP) +I'm fine being Alevi, tbqhwy diff --git a/his/14904926.txt b/his/14904926.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..188535d1e5cc3c4edddc2457ad4a85258439d6c6 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904926.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 14904926 +Why do nazis,incels,haploautist almost always look like right? +I +--- 14904934 +>>14904926 (OP) +I have a mesocephalic skull, 115 degree gonial angle and a visible browridge THO diff --git a/his/14904944.txt b/his/14904944.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e64ff8272bfcb868bf4ff894a85e25bf67e724fa --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904944.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 14904944 +trad orthodox russian? more like maggot food +--- 14904963 +>>14904944 (OP) +You will be maggot food too one day, we all will +--- 14904982 +>>14904944 (OP) +Mods! anon posted something from current day :( diff --git a/his/14904946.txt b/his/14904946.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0f9e1f1357a1647a0943a2e19d8745b752e9d8a3 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904946.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 14904946 +I miss her, bros +--- 14904957 +People don't know this, but the loss of Constantinople and it's consequences have been a disaster to the human race diff --git a/his/14904950.txt b/his/14904950.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..51de7f3569a65e52b6ed119cd791b73dc608c8f0 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904950.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 14904950 +Why are romants sucked off so much again? They had to be handed every one of their wins in a platter. Cimbri had at least two opportunities to march on, genocide and replace them but were too chivalrous to do so. Or maybe it was the romonkey stench that kept them out as they sought the company of fellow aryans. +--- 14904971 +Muh Alpine +Muh Meds +Muh Yamnaya +Muh Western Hunter Gatherers +Muh Eastern Eurasians diff --git a/his/14904989.txt b/his/14904989.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..cffaa1276b6ef05a765ee10f46896988d84f3394 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904989.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 14904989 +I´ve been hearing a lot recently from a neo-reactionary so called movement, that has recently acquired ties with some real people on the valley. Im halfway through that bronze age flavored manifesto, I like the clear base on some now old solid counter-theory, counter-analytical philosophy: spengler, nietzsche, guenon, even that italian sucker evola. It gives me some hope you know, that we have a true anti system movement, something with substance that precisely because of this can succed. It feels like history as whole is actually moving, that something relevant can still be done, even if through the negation, or precisely because. +The catch: Where are the people? I mean, I´m just a loner stranded in eastern germany, barely know how to navigate internet even. +Wanted to know if I came close to the right place? Do you have an opinion about it? Is there like a precise thriving community for this, or is it just an elaborate bunch of commercial media content to consume online, USA scam style? +And by the way, since I took the time, is this forum just a bunch of american degenerate schoolers like in the media, or is there somethinng else to it? +Being honest, know nothing, sound gay in english, all ears diff --git a/his/14904992.txt b/his/14904992.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9834f11b5ea4d2eab2d4b1536a00edad7ecf74fd --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904992.txt @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +----- +--- 14904992 +Why do Muslims get so offended over drawings of Muhammad diff --git a/his/14904993.txt b/his/14904993.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5f3f4a48d4ac6b19cb761e6c757be933f784927d --- /dev/null +++ b/his/14904993.txt @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +----- +--- 14904993 +Is it true, like Trads claim, that the new Mass has a new theology? They say its form de-emphasizes the propitiatory, reparatory, and satisfactory implication of the re-presentation of Christ instead for a common communal gathering and meal that echoes Protestantism. diff --git a/his/27939.txt b/his/27939.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..93d2627fc833b98f8d0e36dd243e528ddeebb848 --- /dev/null +++ b/his/27939.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 27939 +This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged. + +For the purpose of determining what is history, please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago. Historical discussions should be focused on past events, and not their contemporary consequences. 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