diff --git a/sci/15272623.txt b/sci/15272623.txt index 2964f35bbf915e1533af2afe751fd8aea5482dc6..d184614b6b0e01702bf649715400d61e50bf4c39 100644 --- a/sci/15272623.txt +++ b/sci/15272623.txt @@ -410,3 +410,9 @@ I'll post another one soon I hope Harold doesn't think I owe him a date for this info --- 15366467 Bump +--- 15367602 +>>15364669 +An Unproductive Visitation +--- 15369584 +>>15366467 +Bump diff --git a/sci/15317239.txt b/sci/15317239.txt index 907a2b2bf9974d5ecd018a2dfab5d4368a45b77b..714719cd241fbd7a14b18e3ece93a8e41c61b1e7 100644 --- a/sci/15317239.txt +++ b/sci/15317239.txt @@ -148,7 +148,7 @@ It's quite an achievement to make a brain connectome, even for a drozophila, we https://mouse.braindatacenter.cn/ --- 15322288 Ok, this place is kinda in hibernation it seems. -Can you help this anon (>>15319048 → ) out and recommend good books and other sources for biology? +Can you help this anon (>>15319048 ) out and recommend good books and other sources for biology? --- 15322338 >>15322288 I sincerely doubt my advice will matter, as I can count the number of people who've listened without hands. The number is zero. I am very funny. @@ -731,3 +731,41 @@ As a biologist with an interest in history it was really interesting to see his I highly recommend it and would love to hear your thoughts. Maybe we can enhance it with some biological expertise. https://youtu.be/GYAn-1HE9Y8 [Embed] +--- 15367519 +>>15362452 +We call it dancing with the tambourine +Mostly it just causes rains instead of making PCR work +--- 15367582 +>>15366412 +>Why does it have to be one or the other? +Well anyone who knows anything about biology would know that it's both, but the issue is your average person thinks "environment" as some significant contribution means things parents can control after somebody is born. The majority of any effect one could call "environment" would really be endogenous, and if exogenous at all wouldn't be something behaviorally controlled anyway. + +In any event what it amounts to is obviously something like sexuality is not "a choice" nor is there any meaningful evidence to suggest there are any "choices" you could make to alter the probabilities. Just a whole lot of myths or heavily cherrypicked /pol/ tier "research". The guy was clearly trolling anyway, but if you're not considering how people think of these things OUTSIDE of biology the words you use to explain it will reinforce the wrong idea people have. +--- 15367604 +>>15367582 +That's the tricky part. Having to choose between speaking truthfully but allowing my words to be twisted orjust declaring clearly but losing nuances Is a bad choice so I don't choose usually. +I was mostly just interested in explaining the general thing about lichen and cangaroos, the gay stuff is tangential +--- 15367615 +>>15367604 +Yeah I know the feeling. Same thing for trying to be brief like my reply was. Someone could just dishonestly pick over anything you write, ignore context, ignore what was being replied to, and make up all sorts of shit. Since I was writing specifically about homosexuality, for example, I did not add relevant clarifiers with respect to many other things where there might be discernable exogenous environmental correlations or causes, such as obesity, and a dishonest fuck ignoring context would just reply "hurrr what about all this irrelevant xyz u stoopid". + +Point is on the one hand I get it, but on the other hand it helps a lot to understand what people misunderstand and why. That way you can frame what you write in a way that is accurate to their misunderstanding, so they actually have something closer to the right idea instead of running off with the wrong one. Helps to say that outright too if you think to remember to do so, if the person you're talking to has a single honest bone in his body anyway. If not it's usually pretty obvious, since they'll start ignoring context and cherrypicking just to feel smug. +--- 15368729 +>>15367615 +People usually disregard your post if you outright state something they don't agree with regardless of your reasoning and data +Sad but truez especially when it comes to such critical stuff as parenting +So I just wanted to warn about blowback if they focus too much on fostering their children to be a certain way +You need to guide them there, not force them +And definitely not in a small box but in a certain space of ideas that can be expanded because the world 20 years later is very different from what we have now +--- 15368831 +>>15368729 +>People usually disregard your post if you outright state something they don't agree with regardless of your reasoning and data +too real bruh +--- 15369663 +>>15341292 +Dogs are essentially our genetically engineered slaves. +>They are loyal even if we treat them terribly +>They know how to listen to our commands in the genetic level +>Specific breeds made for one purpose that make them unviable without human care (pugs for example) + +That's why I'll take the car that will eat my face. At least it's not my slave, More like a roommate I feed diff --git a/sci/15323766.txt b/sci/15323766.txt index e730c74377d4141f4cf5c9696810413801b16b59..b2c987aafa5b815ea7641a90fd6779573244da25 100644 --- a/sci/15323766.txt +++ b/sci/15323766.txt @@ -1123,3 +1123,27 @@ Because that's exactly what they did. They're a hollow shell with no values exce >muh panzers You're imagining a timeline where the panzers hadn't outrun their supply lines, what you were meant to imagine is a timeline where the Luftwaffe prioritized degrading and attriting the RAF then the Royal Navy, instead of terrorizing Londoners before achieving air supremacy and blockading the isles. +--- 15367808 +>>15324736 +>Imagine basically what the Soviets did to Eastern Europe + +Jesus Christ, you are all brainwashed. + +Soviet Union took Easter Europe from Medieval to Modernity as no other place on earth. +--- 15369331 +>>15367808 +no they didn't. lots of eastern europe was still using horse carts for transportation until around the turn of the century or so. those fuckers are good mechanics though, imagine getting a car as shitty as a lada and keeping it running for 40 years. you had to be a ranking party member to achieve that. once communism ended polish car thieves started bringing benzes over & thats what finally got them to stop using horses and donkeys on east +--- 15369562 +>>15369331 +The cars were easy to repair. +--- 15369563 +>>15324725 +>Pic related is pretty relevant. +yes something we should have been doing decades ago +--- 15369578 +>>15369562 +>t. zoomer who couldn't even change a flat tire how would you even know the difference? +--- 15369667 +>>15369578 +(concerning Škoda 110 which was same era) +You could get full manual with all the parts described and explained (or at least my grandfather did, it was certainly available if it didn't went straight with the car) and the cars were really simple compared to modern cars. diff --git a/sci/15332629.txt b/sci/15332629.txt index f1ebd6125ce5884b5bb91d818f79aaf87a1021aa..18f7e36c097fdb7a8363e4c4ecc172a68b5d67fe 100644 --- a/sci/15332629.txt +++ b/sci/15332629.txt @@ -1423,3 +1423,99 @@ so 0! = 1! / 1 = 1 / 1 = 1 maybe it's not math that is retarded. +--- 15367233 +Guys in stupid. How do I convert watts per meter-kelvin to watts per centimeter-celsius? +--- 15367284 +>>15367233 +I would think its just a matter of dimensional analysis. See pic related. That gets you to watts per centimeter-kelvin at least. Now if you have the numbers you are feeding into this, ie you know the temperature in kelvin, you can just convert that to Celsius by adding 273.15 to it before doing the calculation. If you have only a number that incorporates all the units without multiplying their constituents together, Im actually not sure. I dont think regular unit conversion works with temperature conversions. Its not like "every degree kelvin has 273.15 degrees celsius in it" because its just an offset rather than a multiplier, and honestly I dont know how you would deal with that part off the top of my head. +--- 15367316 +>>15367233 +>>15367284 +The offset can be ignored in this case, since the interpretation of thermal conductivity W/m.K isn't "W/m per number of kelvins" but "W/m per temperature difference, measured in kelvins". So all you need to do for that is scale by 9/5 to get temperature difference in Celsius, with the offset cancelling out. +--- 15367320 +>>15367055 +Now do that for [math] (0-1)! [/math] +--- 15367406 +>>15367030 +>>15367055 +>>15367320 +All of you are retarded, 1 is the identity for multiplication - the definition of 0! = 1 is intuitive +--- 15368068 +>>15332629 (OP) +would you bleed out faster if you have high blood pressure? +--- 15368080 +>Find the constant of motion for a problem with helicoid symmetry: [math]V(\theta-kz)[/math] +I was able to solve similar problems with a given potential, but I feel totally lost now that I've been given a potential as a general function. +--- 15368083 +>>15368080 +I'm supposed to solve it using Noether's theorem btw +--- 15368095 +>>15367233 +Divide by 100. Kelvin and Celcius are the same thing if you're dealing with temperature differences. If you aren't, you have to use Kelvin, because "per °C" doesn't make any sense for something which is proportional to absolute temperature. + +>>15367316 +>scale by 9/5 +Not unless Fahrenheit is involved somehow. +--- 15368102 +How do I show that in R3 any subset of the xy-plane has measure zero without using contradiction? +--- 15368108 +What if someone injects rabies into my food? +--- 15368114 +>>15368102 +Jacobi's transformation theorem or just covering it by cubes of arbitrary volume. +--- 15368160 +164,385,000 - men in the US +4.5% of men are gays/bi +4.5%*164,685,000 = 7,397,235 - number of gays in the US +>https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx +925,800 - men that have HIV +692,200 + 61,800 = 754,000 - number of gays that have HIV +96,300 - hetero men that have HIV +>https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pdf/library/reports/surveillance/cdc-hiv-surveillance-supplemental-report-vol-26-1.pdf + +Now, the following conditional probability + +[math] P(\text{guy has HIV}|\text{he is gay}) = \frac{P(\text{guy is gay and has HIV})}{P(\text{he is gay})} = {\frac{754,000}{164,385,000} \over \frac{7,397,325}{164,385,000}} =0.1019 [/math] + +also + +[math] P(\text{guy has HIV}|\text{he is hetero}) = \frac{96,300}{164,385,000} = 0.0130 [/math] + +conversely + +[math] P(\text{guy is gay}|\text{he has HIV}) = \frac{P(\text{guy has HIV}|\text{he is gay)} \cdot P(\text{guy is gay)} }{P(\text{guy has HIV)}} = 0.1019 \cdot \frac{7,397,325}{925,800} = 0.8142 [/math] + +Does this look correct? +--- 15368198 +>>15368160 +Your second calculation doesn't use #{hetero men} in the denominator. +--- 15368201 +>>15368160 +women can get HIV +--- 15368236 +>>15368198 +Ah yes, makes sense +[math] P = \frac{96,300}{0955 \cdot 164,685,000} = 0.0006 [/math] + +>>15368201 +Right, but I just used the numbers for men +--- 15368452 +What is the order of the subgroup of [math]A_5[/math] generated by the two 3-cycles [math](123)[/math] and [math](145)[/math]? +--- 15368736 +is there any course/book you guys would recommend for self-teaching undergrad level Linear Algebra? +All the courses at my university are really geared towards engineers so it doesn't need to be anything proof heavy or whatever, just concepts and exercises. My advisor is asking me to take a grad level Lin. Algebra course next semester but I never took the undergrad version, so I'd like to familiarize myself with it +again, all geared towards engineers +--- 15368804 +>>15368736 +>engineers +khan academy +--- 15368815 +>>15368083 +Do you know how to use Noether's theorem to show that the z-component of angular momentum is conserved if V is only a function of angle? Do pretty much the exact same thing +--- 15368884 +New thread, please +--- 15369481 +Suppose I have a graph G = (V, E) which has a perfect matching and an integer k. How do I prove that showing there is a subset S ⊆ V of k vertices such that every vertex in V - S is connected to some vertex in S is NP-complete? I also don't know what reduction to use. +--- 15369520 +What is the relation between integrals and bivectors? +My gut keeps telling me there's some cool relation between the two, like effectively taking integrals with simple matrix multiplication, but I can't figure out what diff --git a/sci/15334386.txt b/sci/15334386.txt index 98fce3731dba6d894d7f8e0481d3ea2edba1c78c..ba3542129b2e8694373db8e84184cbd563c6ce92 100644 --- a/sci/15334386.txt +++ b/sci/15334386.txt @@ -158,3 +158,71 @@ This man raised one of the shittiest, most morally bereft emperors of Rome; is t --- 15366657 >>15361236 Shame on him +--- 15367777 +Thx bro, love niggas who post PDFs +--- 15368034 +>>15346951 +To me sounds as an attempt to formalize +some sort of metaphysics of engineering in general. +--- 15368038 +>>15368034 +Platonic engineering? +--- 15368042 +>>15367777 +Worthless college children piece of shit no self respecting smart white male uses that piece of shit phrase, kys immediately +--- 15368091 +>>15334935 +you're retarded +cybernetics engineers are some of the best paid people on the planet +countless processes in contemporary manufacturing and industry in general are cybernetic in nature +--- 15368099 +>>15337524 +cybernetics refers to self-regulating systems +at some level or other they are inherently computational, since they rely on feeding their outputs back into their own inputs +--- 15368461 +>>15368034 +>>15368038 + +It kind of is in a sense. + +Wiener was very influenced by Leibniz's Monadology, which emphasises the role of perception and apperception as fundamental to our understanding of the world. A Platonist slant is permissible, although it might be better to characterise it as an Aristotelian take on forms? +In any case, one of the underlying ideas in cybernetics is that the form of one system can tell you about the form of another. Lettvin, Maturana, McCulloch and Pitts wrote a paper “What the frogs eye tells the frogs brain”, which (if I can remember correctly) said something along the lines of: The structure of the frogs eye can tell us something about the frogs brain and vice versa. This principle is generalised across different epistemic domains. +For example, can the human body provide insights or principles for running a company or state effectively? Or, what could primatology or early childhood studies tell us about developing conversational multi-agent systems? +--- 15368563 +Can I have a cybernetics reading list? +--- 15369026 +Wtf is this thread where are my irl cyborg arms wtf are you talking about +--- 15369365 +>>15368099 +>cybernetics refers to self-regulating systems +Is it a mathematical science? An engineering science? Why only self-regulating systems? Is there a science that studies systems in general? +--- 15369664 +>>15337524 +Cybernetics is a meme technology that Soviet planners imagined would solve the pricing problem (it didn't) +--- 15369670 +>>15339225 +>it's literally nothing. just a bunch of nonsense babbling about adaptive systems and shit, it's an exercise in basic logic and english language if anything +Huh? I thought cybernetics was all about skull-guns and nanobots and brain implants and biomechanical enhancements? +>My vision is augmented +that kind of shit +--- 15369717 +>>15361236 +>It is what it is +~Marcus Aurelius, Meditations +--- 15369742 +>>15368461 +To me it sounds as if they are some sort of socialists, who try to simplify engineering, reducing them to some sort of frameworks... as it is called now by lefties, when they speak about AI chats, "democratization of science" + +I bet those guys are the ones who construct frameworks for corporations and gov's. Would be something that glowies study. +--- 15369769 +>>15368563 +Snowcrash was a fun read. +>>15334386 (OP) +Seems as if Anon did not catch the start small part of that but uh usually it starts with mech suits un exoskellies does it not? +--- 15369776 +>>15369769 +>usually it starts with mech suits un exoskellies does it not? +It's actually about automating five-year-plans for shitty socialist economies. +--- 15369818 +>>15369776 +loses its magic that way does it not? you coulda suggested nanomachine medication. diff --git a/sci/15335194.txt b/sci/15335194.txt index 8fc8ac9db082064b77fca92e8b5411dfa81bd135..10169e4c2a860150d6c16f4ddf315994fd9b97ec 100644 --- a/sci/15335194.txt +++ b/sci/15335194.txt @@ -576,3 +576,39 @@ I think Germany has the right idea where they block people from attending univer What do you mean with this? Do you refer to the Allgemeine Hochschulreife? That is just the high school diploma you get after grade 12. The system is pretty open to allow people into universities and especially good for late bloomers. If you do good in school, you can go right away. If you are a dropout at any stage of school (after grade 9 you can drop out) you can get trained in a job over 3 years (e.g. mechanics, plumbers, electricians, carpenters) and go to an university of applied sciences afterwards or you add 1 year of school work (usually done while working) to study at a regular university. Pretty good desu. +--- 15367743 +>>15366240 +>half ass most of my school work for mediocre grades all my life +>fairly bad at mental arithmetic +>could not do highschool level algebra until i was in uni +>eventually decided to do a phd because i liked the subject +>got in through sheer luck due to bunch of publications i accumulated throughout the years +>feel like everybody moggs me intellectually +>feel like im seconds away from being exposed as a fraud +>feel like if i was forced to teach a class an undergrad would fucking destroy me +Is this the academic equivalent of being insecure about having a small dick ? +--- 15367747 +>>15366240 +>>15366732 +Worthless degree holding student midwits, papers is literally the only valid metric. + +You are worthless +--- 15369042 +>>15367747 +>valid metric +Valid metric for what though? +Academic success? Yes. Success in career? No lmao +--- 15369445 +Wow, what a day it was. I think it's a PR. Got three job appi rejections at once +--- 15369529 +I thought my political science professor was smart but after a few lessons its clear he agrees with the popular opinion on literally everything + +Theres not a single thing in mainstream US politics he disagrees with. + +We did a thing about leaders that have influence through charisma. Someone said trump. He got triggered. Regardless if you like trump or not its evident he has a large amount of influence because many think he is charismatic + + +Overall the dude is just very opinionated and non factual. I want to like him though +--- 15369930 +>>15366240 +If it makes you feel better I was two thirds of the way through mine before I finally got a paper out. diff --git a/sci/15337076.txt b/sci/15337076.txt index 043629177c5a224aa8d7376ea52da5db8e96ddee..3b5cf2c5e41b11210d7d7bdfd7b2ffe2b3e71684 100644 --- a/sci/15337076.txt +++ b/sci/15337076.txt @@ -1299,3 +1299,31 @@ there are no penguins in the northern hemisphere https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/sea-ice-antarctic >From the start of satellite observations in 1979 to 2014, total Antarctic sea ice increased by about 1 percent per decade. +--- 15367848 +>>15358310 +>Approximately 90 percent of the USHCN stations failed to meet the NWS’s own siting requirements, +which stipulate that stations must be 30 meters (100 feet) or more away from an artificial or radiating / reflecting heat source +--- 15367866 +>>15367848 +>bro it's totally the atmospheric warming bro it's the greenhouse effect bro it isn't land use changes bro heat island effect is accounted for bro trust me bro +--- 15368030 +>>15367866 +>2022_Surface_Station_Report +hadn't read this before but its exactly what you'd expect from climate cultists. data thats deliberately completely useless due to idiocy in site placement and maintenance. perfect if you want to lie about temperatures being hotter than they are. +--- 15368078 +>>15337076 (OP) +can someone explain how the greenhouse effect works with CO2? + +wouldnt the CO2 reflect more light than usual as well as keeping the light that does make it into the atmosphere a little bit longer? +--- 15368093 +>>15367866 +People who say it's "accounted for" mysteriously forget that the "accounting" means applying a WARMING constant to modern urban heat island temps, and a COOLING constant to past temps without urban interference. They cannot square that circle without lying. +--- 15368097 +>>15368078 +One of the most well-known effects of CO2 is stratospheric cooling due to reflecting sunlight. +--- 15368790 +>>15337076 (OP) +You need to stop thinking and trust the experts. They are scientists and you are not. +--- 15369387 +>>15352169 +lmao 2.25 trillion kilos of grain annually and ppl think we're on the verge of starvation from overpopulation. 3500 calories in a kilo of grain. adds up to 2700 calories per person per day, from grain crops alone. diff --git a/sci/15338455.txt b/sci/15338455.txt index 631015a2fc81cb1a00cf11476509f9b327b2b224..bf1406a9eca5893e753b4d8f2019c9e0d6a3d0af 100644 --- a/sci/15338455.txt +++ b/sci/15338455.txt @@ -543,3 +543,13 @@ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33205991/ >Wait, so she couldn't tell the difference between male and female dogs at times? it might have been consensual a few times. +--- 15367204 +>>15339802 +Not everyone rides in their car alone, inceloid +--- 15367352 +>>15341330 +Correct, a wonderful new standard, now I don't need to bother making facial expressions (which I normally can't do but I'm expected to do anyways). +--- 15369323 +my old doctor died and now i have to get a flight physical with a new doctor for the first time, they just email'd me saying i have to wear a mask. +i've never worn one before, where do you buy this garbage and how much microplastics am i finna inhale? +also lmao when 200 passengers and all the flight crew had to wear masks and i just ignored it, never got the vax either, when my boss said i had to, i just told him "hey i got that vax" next time i saw him an that was that. diff --git a/sci/15340816.txt b/sci/15340816.txt index 0de1e6331bfdd55ebf039ca2c83f2eac16ec518e..2b307fa44d837a16a397d8e045e04b58a8975476 100644 --- a/sci/15340816.txt +++ b/sci/15340816.txt @@ -844,3 +844,39 @@ OP's question is in the present tense, which means the "millions of years the sp >>15366015 >If people genuinely got more attractive as they got more intelligent than we wouldn't be having this conversation. The reason why we have this conversation is that the ugly and stupid got guns and bombs and ruined civilization, then declared themselves smart. +--- 15367414 +>>15366047 +>Your snide and spiteful way of communicating is a prime example of toxic femininity. +It really isn't. And not just because I'm a man. You fundamentally don't understand the words you're using or the concepts they refer to. You seem to think +>Oh, this is some gender studies thing, clearly my superior rational man brain will intuitively grasp this +and then just completely miss the mark over and over again in your arrogance. So you keep coming back to +>"toxic" = "bad", "femininity" = "women", therefore, "toxic femininity" = "when a woman talks to me in a not so nice way" +I imagine some painful personal experiences with women also colour your perceptions in this regard. Certainly less of a stretch than all the random assumptions you're making about me. The first step on the way to knowledge is admitting you don't know something, but that would require you to relinquish your desperately insecure "smartest person in the thread" affectation. +--- 15367421 +I think intelligent people are generally more picky with social interactions. Stupid people have lower standards or more shallow ones +--- 15367423 +>>15367421 +>The odds are good but the goods are odd +--- 15367429 +>>15367423 +That's actually a great way of putting it +--- 15367523 +>>15366047 +>When you use ridicule as a substitute for arguments, it's toxic femininity. +Like how the fuck do you unironically write this and then bang on about "reason and logic" lmao +--- 15367644 +>>15367414 +>I'm a man +Come on now. Your testosterone levels are low enough to render you infertile and sick. +>>"toxic" = "bad", "masculinity" = "men", therefore, "toxic masculinity" = "when a man does not behave like spineless slimy homosexual like me" +I imagine some painful experiences with men also colour your perceptions in this regard etc. etc. +--- 15368247 +>>15367644 +If you want to know what toxic masculinity looks like, this post is it. + +Who are you calling spineless, coward? Face the truth. +--- 15369385 +>>15340816 (OP) +high IQ people have less kids + +so yes diff --git a/sci/15343107.txt b/sci/15343107.txt index f4ce7ad14b3e491caa416a654bdd68a69045692b..1495dec210154b398c4e865a4691e63f504dcddb 100644 --- a/sci/15343107.txt +++ b/sci/15343107.txt @@ -824,24 +824,9 @@ Sadists. --- 15365718 >>15365535 Concepts are invented, truths are discovered. Abstractions about reality are likewise invented from observed things. ---- 15365729 ->>15365718 ->Abstractions invented -Kill yourself and stop replying in this thread you can't make up definitions for words not by their common definitions. - -Worthless college student piece of shit --- 15365843 >>15365729 >you can't make up definitions for words not by their common definitions. ---- 15365856 ->>15365843 ->Worthless negrotic trash misunderstands definitions - -Abstraction by definition is not invented. - -DO YOUR HOMEWORK WORTHLESS COLLEGE KIDDY AND STOP ARGUING WITH ME YOU ARE WRONG - -You are literally wasting your time, not even sure you are in college yet, probably failed your classes dumb fucking children --- 15366475 Any tips on how to study math efficiently? I have a big exam coming up in a few weeks. I tried taking supplements like l-theanine and alpha GPC and they have minimal, or maybe a placebo effect. I can't make up my mind about caffeine though. @@ -863,3 +848,159 @@ So no such bundle can exist. --- 15367100 >>15343107 (OP) Is math worthwhile to learn if I'm not into it? if so what books do you nerds recommend. +--- 15367258 +how does the usual formal logic relate to the physics-based/physical world it often is used to "model"? +--- 15367527 +Do you like when anime use tangentially math-related sounding words? +>Absolute +--- 15367557 +How do I use a new math font in LaTeX? I use Gummi editor (I'm on Linux...) and tex-gyre is installed yet +\setmainfont{TeX Gyre Schola} +\setmathfont{TeX Gyre Schola Math} +\setupbodyfont[schola] +do not work. Can anyone help please? Gummi isn't popular and I didn't find any help googling. The default math font is lame. +--- 15367570 +>>15367258 +That question is a bit too broad. I suppose you're familiar with the representation of "physical space" as a power of the reals (R^3). So I'm not really sure what you're asking. You have an idea how the physical world is related to math, and math can be expressed with increasing rigor. +A good starting point is by informally labeling things by numbers and then proceed to proof theorems about the numbers and sets of numbers, their ordering, etc. +--- 15367574 +>>15367100 +Why would you want to learn something you're not into? +If it's because of your carrer, then that may also vary depending on your field. Architects learn calculus but almost never use it. +--- 15367581 +Math is pretty :) +--- 15367600 +>>15367100 +>Is math worthwhile to learn if I'm not into it? +Depends. +>if so what books do you nerds recommend. +It's best to start with calculus (very good book) +https://lyryx.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Guichard-Calculus-EarlyTranscendentals-2017A.pdf +then complex analysis (below are some very good notes that read really well) +https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/18-04-complex-variables-with-applications-spring-2018/ +then DEs (you can even use some online resource for that one as it's really basic) +https://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/DE.aspx. +The last two should be much, much, easier, especially DEs, so make sure you get calculus right. Then it's up to you. If you want to do the pure stuff like algebra, topology, geometry, etc, then just go straight for it ie buy specialized books and grind. Books for topology, etc, often contain topics that go from undergraduate to advanced material (eg Hatcher's algebraic topology). Honestly same goes for applied topics... ME/fluid mech/etc, content from the three classes above will be a good enough basis. You might need a few additional things but you'll just pick that up online as you go. +(If it's physics you like then you'll additionally need to go through the material of the typical first four classes ie classical physics/electromagnetism/waves/quantum mechanics and then try and find something you like eg optics/qft/etc and study that. The four classes mentioned here should be real easy if you have a good basis in calculus, complex analysis and DEs, in fact they're usually taken at the same time by early physics students.) +--- 15367634 +How would you motivate the subject of von Neumann algebras to someone who's not well-versed in operator theory? + +According to wikipedia, +>Von Neumann algebras have found applications in diverse areas of mathematics like knot theory, statistical mechanics, quantum field theory, local quantum physics, free probability, noncommutative geometry, representation theory, differential geometry, and dynamical systems. +Can someone please expand or provide references regarding these applications? +--- 15367664 +>>15345245 +36 +--- 15367686 +Can you prove it? +--- 15367720 +>>15367570 +If we look at our most up-to-date ideas/theories of how the physical world changes over time, logic-systems or math can "model" them. After all, mathematical ideas are often originally inspired by the nature of the real world. + +Addition and subtraction can correspond to discrete, physical objects being added or taken away, like even particles. + +But how are things like mathematical induction/infinity/reasoning about infinity, for example, related to the real world, according to our physical theories? + +It's a little surprising that reasoning with infinity is often applicable to the physical world, like using number theory to predict the behavior of a (physical) computer's results. (But really, that has to be because it *is* somehow related, commensurately) +--- 15367735 +>>15367664 +fuck I meant 51??? +--- 15367776 +>>15367686 +Under what system of axioms are you asking if I can prove that? +--- 15367780 +Tired of the dice roll on my GPA from random bullshit retarded professors drop in their courses. There is zero reason for not having a completely standardized undergraduate math coursework, exams, and class content. Homework and exam writing should be taken away from professors and even universities, and done by committee for an entire region. Complete bullshit that you can lose a letter grade or two and have your life ruined because some jackass couldn't gauge how to write a test properly. +--- 15367793 +>>15367776 +It is the axiom. +--- 15367853 +>>15367735 +54 final answer fuck this +--- 15367874 +>>15367664 +>>15367735 +fuck these are wrong??? +>>15367853 +duck, this is correct!!!! Nice job anon! It's indeed 54. Third time is charm, as they say. Thank you a lot for your time and effort solving it. Speaking of, how did you solve it? How did you get those other numbers? Either way, I hope you enjoyed it! Let me know if you did so I can be happy that you did. And of course I hope you have a pleasant day! +--- 15368005 +>>15367874 +Nice, thank you anon. I'm new here but I'll do my best on latex. + +[math]2004^{2004} = 2^{4008}*3^{2004}*167^{2004}[/math] +so an arbitrary factor of 2004^2004 is of the form +[math]2^{x}*3^{y}*167^{z}[/math] +where x, y, z are positive integers and x is at most 4008, y is at most 2004, z is at most 2004 (though this cap eventually becomes redundant) +Then we note that the number of factors of this arbitrary factor is +[math](x+1)(y+1)(z+1)[/math] +which we need to equal 2004. We need to count the number of solutions. +We can instead consider the equation +[math]abc=2004[/math] +in positive integers because there is a one-to-one correspondence. +Now it's combinatorics because if you let A=2, B=3, C=167 you can describe the solutions like +(AABC, 1, 1) +(ABC, 1, A) +(1, BC, AA) +and so on... and then I just counted the number of solutions by hand to get 54. My counting was the source of the two previous wrong answers. I finally got the counting right on my last try, and I verified it in python by just permuting the factors of 2004. I think there's a variation on stars and bars to count solutions better? Thanks again for the question anyways. +--- 15368007 +Fellas, is it possible to go through all of gallian, doing 4 or 5 chapters a week? +--- 15368076 +Ok woops. x, y, z can be zero. a, b, c are still positive integers though. Also I didn't count like that exactly I just wanted to show the format of the tuples I was writing :o +--- 15368079 +>>15368005 +>>15368076 +I forgot to press the reply button woops +--- 15368149 +>>15367720 +>But how are things like mathematical induction/infinity/reasoning about infinity, for example, related to the real world, according to our physical theories? +I don't think most people would stipulate that a physical theory (which is a mathematically formulated model of the empirical world) is at all concerned with explicitly relating abstract mathematical statements to said empirical world. + +As a rule, the working theories are rarely treated as being a valid mirror of the empirical world when it comes to very small and very large scales, so I'd not deduce statements about abstract infinity form it. + +As for induction, I think it's best to view it as a join _restriction_ of the concept of natural numbers, as well as the different predicates defined on them (the different properties of those numbers). +--- 15368157 +>15368149 +>mtg +faggot. Not gonna read your post. No (YOU) for you either. +--- 15368168 +>>15368157 +--- 15368338 +>>15368149 +I meant infinity related to the real world as our physical theories describe it (the real world). I'm supposing physical theories, like the standard model I guess, are supposed to describe "the world" instead of just one part of it. + +Even though really they may not work for everything... + +I was using the idea that things like arithmetic (add one apple or someother object that follows such rules, like many kinds of particles, unlike say a droplet of water which "adding" one to another can just still be one droplet, would pretty much work the same as those arithmetical rules) are based off those objects in the real world. + +I guess using the theory of the standard model involves real numbers and has space have an infinite (and real) extent, so that's using those kinds of "infinite" in the reasoning, so that's a reason it'd have to be related. But I still generally dont know much about infinity and using it + +Specifically, I find it weird how you can infer things about, say, the natural numbers using it. But I guess the reason/answer is gonna be something like "Induction/Axiom of infinity is literally just X, which is literally just Y, which is how natural numbers are defined". + +>a join +interesting +Also with the infimum and Schnirelmann density thing, that's related +--- 15368482 +>>15368338 +>Even though really they may not work for everything... +There's no unified theory +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Unified_Theory +But even if there were, they wouldn't per se speak about abstract math done by humans (not any more than we can already informally reason about it) +>so that's a reason it'd have to be related +If those models are written down in some particular mathematical formal theory, where e.g. space is R^3, then the theory tautologically claims that physical space has infinite aspects. But I don't think we learn anything about math from this process in particular, given the theory is expressed in math. +>Specifically, I find it weird how you can infer things about, say, the natural numbers using it. +Using what? We don't infer things about the formal theory of numbers using the empirical world. If out theory of numbers and physical things can be matched up (and in this way we can intuit math results using things in the world), then just because we those theories which didn't have much applications were discarded as niche. Math working for real worth use-cases is selection bias in the sense that there's plenty of math but the math you get taught at school is the one that was deemed useful. +--- 15368533 +>>15368482 +>Using what? +infinity +--- 15368592 +>>15367574 +You can learn to like something which is something many "nerds" can't wrap their head around. +--- 15368601 +>>15343480 +pseudoscience +--- 15369500 +>Gamma(x) can be turned into f(x)/g(x), f and g are holomorphic everywhere +What functions are f and g? +--- 15369503 +>>15368533 +Unless you're a Platonist, there isn't really anything you "find out about THE" natural numbers using infinity. E.g. there's no infinite objects in Peano arithmetic. diff --git a/sci/15344539.txt b/sci/15344539.txt index ffd88794572cf941029cbe8e18f40e076b3a786d..90bad4eaaaf79fc07692bc218ac8b72bdfe03b6e 100644 --- a/sci/15344539.txt +++ b/sci/15344539.txt @@ -506,3 +506,101 @@ you don't even go outside or ever leave city limits pure projection. you should kill yourself if you think there are too many people. i'll make sure that some lovely wild vermin feast on your corpse. --- 15366928 We've hit the ceiling. The biomass of land animals is 96 percent humans and livestock, and 4 percent wild animals. That means we've filled the fucking ecosystem to the max with humans. You ain't fittin' more in here, no matter how hard you try. +--- 15367437 +>>15366655 +That's a whole lot of words to tell us you make money by importing the 3rd world. +There isn't much more of the natural world left for primitive fucks like you convert into a brown shanties to continue your psychotic ponzi and satiate your bottomless appetite. +--- 15367455 +>>15366655 +Are you Australian? +What is with those people? They seem extraordinarily cruel and insatiable. +--- 15367460 +>>15366928 +This was done by taking advantage of fossil energy, a non renewable resource which the fucking corporate "geniuses" in charge decided humanity needed to consume at an exponentially increasing rate. +--- 15367528 +>>15367460 +>which the fucking corporate "geniuses" in charge decided +Amazing how you can project onto these "corporate" people both complete incompetence for long term planning and absolute power to dictate the whims of society + +all corporations do is meet economic demand, people in general decided they'd rather burn more cheap gas to have a better life now than leave it sitting in the ground for future generations. +--- 15367556 +>>15367528 +>people in general decided they'd rather burn more cheap gas to have a better life now than leave it sitting in the ground for future generations +I guess that's true enough. +Still it takes a certain type of person to knowingly be on the front lines and reap the profits (aka. meet the economic demand as you put it), and say less than nothing literally to the masses of retards creating the economic demand. +Where does the buck stop? You seem to want to put it all on the ignorant morons creating the demand. Obviously that's not gonna work. +--- 15367558 +if the narcissistic demanding messiah complex cases see published evidence that their end of the world fantasy isn't true, they will just ignore it. +note that there is nobody in this thread saying "wow great news! i was so worried about overpopulation, what a load off my mind" +instead they're just coming up with reason why the world needs to reorganize to fit their desires. +none of them were ever concerned about overpopulation to begin with, the fake problem is just some rhetoric they wish to use to selfishly leverage power for themselves +--- 15367563 +>>15367558 +>projecting retard projects +fossil fuels are a non-renewable resource +as is fertilizer and pretty much every mineral +infinite growth on a finite planet is not possible +have another drink, boomer, then take a nap +--- 15367647 +>>15362050 +Yeah, but the point is that there will no longer be a western world as we know it, whites are going extinct, or at best reduced to such an insignificant minority it doesn't make much difference. There are people who could be considered white in places like Brazil and Argentina, there's even some still left in South Africa, but you wouldn't consider any of those places to be Western would you? Are they sending shitloads of aid to Africa. No, they are having trouble feeding their own hordes and keeping the lights on at night. The whites in those countries are just the typical assholes who dont give a fuck so long as they can run their business, live in comparative luxury, rub shoulders with fellow wealthy assholes regardless of race, and live in gated communities. So that's the future of the USA, Canada, France, Germany, all of western Europe. If there are any surviving "western" nations it maybe little bumfucks like Iceland and Australia. But they will be also fucked in turn eventually once the USA can no longer afford a fleet of modern aircraft carriers. +>What? The USA will always be able to power project! +For maybe another century, sure. The incredible infrastructure and services made by white Americans in the past was built to last. But imagining than the USA will be able to maintain its current level of economic efficiency when Hispanics, Chinks, Indians and Blacks make up the vast majority of its population is like expecting Brazil to police the world's oceans. +Whites have no idea. These people are utterly corrupt. They have no integrity. Tribalism, lying, bribes, nepotism and deceit are a way of life for them. Its their default mode. That's the reason their countries are such fucking shitholes in the first place. They dont lose that shit when they move to your countries. Once they start taking power, which has already begun to happen, they will make your worse white politicians and administrators seem like Saints by comparison. +--- 15368684 +>>15344539 (OP) +>wahhhhh there soon won't be as many people to consoom our media and work as our wage slaves! +Not seeing the downsides. +--- 15368725 +>>15344539 (OP) +Overpopulation is still a reality + +Without the haber-bosch process billions would die +--- 15368737 +>>15367563 +It clearly upsets you to see yourself accurately characterized. +--- 15368747 +>>15354264 +I will never understand how this motherfucker is not only considered to be some kind of expert or something, but is also paid very well. He's got the knowledge and wisdom of a half retarded 10th grader. +--- 15368757 +>>15368747 +he is jewish, you should've been able to guess that +--- 15368761 +>>15356212 +Is that K-10? +--- 15368765 +>>15357482 +based on? +--- 15368803 +>>15368765 +Its a convenient round number. + +>>15367558 +>there is nobody in this thread saying "wow great news! i was so worried about overpopulation, what a load off my mind" +Same thing happens every time theres good news about the climate. Seeing news about the growth of Antarctic ice, for instance, only makes environmentalists angry. Pointing out that sea level isn't rising has the same effect on them. +--- 15368812 +>>15344648 +If it really gets that bad, they will just kill the old people (meaning me, because I will be that age when things get that bad). +--- 15368863 +>>15368812 +Imagine getting killed by a population of obese zoomers because of food shortages. +--- 15368873 +>>15368747 +He's merely a shill for those who make money by importing the 3rd world - western banking and construction corporations. +--- 15368921 +>>15368803 +Finding out the good news that polar bears are thriving got the leading polar bear scientist fired. +--- 15369394 +>>15368921 +The great barrier reef is growing at a faster rate than has ever been previously measured +--- 15369442 +>>15368873 +>western banking and construction corporations. +western banking and construction cartels +--- 15369444 +>>15369394 +"no" +--- 15369456 +>>15369394 +is it all the booze that makes you so smart? +seriously, bruh, what's your secret? diff --git a/sci/15345008.txt b/sci/15345008.txt index 739bd54705ca7966924f3ba3dc4898f70e18b7dc..17226409181fb686a94e8b8ec3ba184d53846e45 100644 --- a/sci/15345008.txt +++ b/sci/15345008.txt @@ -166,3 +166,12 @@ Better to live under a robber knight turned king than a moralistic christcuck co --- 15366623 >>15365063 no is isn't, you have antipathy for christians only because you're ashamed of your own hedonistic weak willed unwillingness to lead your life morally +--- 15369007 +>>15364401 +You are so brainwashed and duped. +--- 15369011 +>>15364401 +>The strongest will accumulate power an resources and abuse them to their liking +That is the very definition of GOVERNMENT. +--- 15369389 +>lolbergarianism diff --git a/sci/15345195.txt b/sci/15345195.txt index c76b954edb06156a3924b91ea47b0b6167d9e975..36afaa37add1ba2e20eb3589528e5b983f557dd9 100644 --- a/sci/15345195.txt +++ b/sci/15345195.txt @@ -965,3 +965,347 @@ Just call blacks NIGGERS and be done with it. Any mental gymnastics regarding ra --- 15366909 >>15366594 I was anti-racist years ago and I changed my mind, but it's not because i heard NIGGERS. +--- 15367601 +>>15366372 +Best post ITT. Lewontin's fallacy fags BTFO. Leftcucks on suicide watch. Reminder that all white people who advocate for "abolishing whiteness" should start with abolishing themselves with a bullet to the back of the head. Simple as. +--- 15367616 +>>15366372 +>>15367601 +Good, good. +--- 15367618 +>>15366372 +>>15367601 +Lol, I skimmed past that post the first time with a tl;dr, but thanks for calling attention to it. It really does highlight how dishonest and misleading leftists are in pretty much every topic of discussion. +--- 15367628 +>>15367618 +>>15367616 +>>15367601 +>>15366372 +Trying too hard +--- 15367673 +>>15366372 +--- 15367702 +>>15366372 +>How often does it happen that 2 white Europeans with their at least 70.000 years split from Sub-Saharan Africans just happen to give birth to an African? +Just because genetics are static doesnt mean all population groups carry the genetic variability to reconstruct the other. Theoretically if you took enough white people and subjected them to selection, bringing forth some genes which are rare (but still exist) in their population you would be able to evolve them into Africans. That doesnt happen due to active selection. + +Your argument essentially amounts to +>hurricane dur but if race is construct, den everything mus be construct +Literally nobody is saying a chair is a construct, a chair is a chair. All humans are the exact same species because they can successfully interbreed. All the geographic differences you see are due to genetic bottlenecks. Picrel is proof bottlenecks have been a more important force in human evolution than geography, it's just that geography still influences bottlenecks. +--- 15367730 +>>15367702 +>Theoretically if you took enough white people and subjected them to selection, bringing forth some genes which are rare (but still exist) in their population you would be able to evolve them into Africans. +Is this possible given that we don't have a common ancestor? +--- 15367748 +>>15367702 +>Literally nobody is saying a chair is a construct, a chair is a chair. +Retard. A chair IS a construct. +The point is that constructs can be useful and based on reality. Like chairs, and races. + +>humans are the exact same species because they can successfully interbreed. +How many times do we have to tell you guys that this is not sufficient to group populations into one species ? and that plenty of cases of different species can give birth to fertile hybrids ? +--- 15367756 +>>15367730 +>we don't have a common ancestor? +We do. Wow, imagine being this cognitively dissonant because of +>muh heckin subspecerinos +The subspecies argument only works under the assumption that all humans groups have the same heterozygosity (genetic diversity), when they do not. Geography causes bottlenecks. So for instance in order to get to America native Americans had to go through and adapt to Arctic tundra, this removed some genes which might be beneficial inside America, say in the south American jungles for instance. Almost every subspecies will have approximately the same amount of heterozygosity given enough time, with some exceptions like with the natural south-north decline in gene diversity observed across every living being. +--- 15367758 +>>15349330 +Ethnicity would be the correct term but yeah +--- 15367765 +>>15367756 +>only works under the assumption that all humans groups have the same heterozygosity +Why ? +--- 15367778 +>>15367756 +>We do. +Source? +--- 15367781 +>>15367748 +>plenty of cases of different species can give birth to fertile hybrids ? +The thing is you're disregarding is that fertility isnt enough. The presence of fertility barriers is enough to define a species. So for instance Liger/tigon hybrid males exhibit infertility, and the majority of their females do as well. Just because you can produce successful with generation hybrids doesnt mean that they're the same species. + +0 fertility barriers exist across all human groups, none at all. Even in subspecies hybridization zones the hybrids still exhibit reduced fertility, humans in "hybridization zones" do not. +--- 15367806 +>>15367765 +Because look at the graph: >>15367702 +It tells us geographical bottlenecks have been the predominant force in human evolution up to this point. What's the difference? Subspecies of wolves have negligible differences in genetic diversity, with the exception that all animals exhibit less genetic diversity the further north/south you go from the equator, of course. This indicates that subspecies we see are the result of GEOGRAPHIC DEPENDENCE, like if you've been paying attention. Human genetic variation is not the result of geographic dependence. +--- 15367813 +>>15367702 +>Theoretically if you took enough white people and subjected them to selection, +If you selectively breed whites long enough, you can create an African. Therefore, whites and Africans are the same. Makes sense. I never realised that amoebas are human too. +>All humans are the exact same species because they can successfully interbreed +Therefore, humans are the same as neanderthals, since they can interbreed. Since neanderthals can interbreed homo erectus, they are the same. And since homo erectus could breed with australopithecus, they are the same... Turns out that humans really are amoebas. +--- 15367836 +>>15367765 +>>15367806 +Any barrier to fertility is required, ANY. Hybridization zones ARE natural barriers to fertility imbecile. + +Consequently we see this play out in human history actually. For instance Africans were actually well adapted to the conditions of south America, despite the fact the south Americans are the most different from Africans of any human group, because bottlenecks, not geography, was the consequence of African-native south American genetic differences. +--- 15367841 +>>15367748 +>How many times do we have to tell you guys that this is not sufficient to group populations into one species +There is no number. That only matters for people arguing in good faith to arrive at truth. Leftists view words and arguments only as tools by which to acquire more power. Their responses in any given moment will depend solely on what they think will deliver them more power. Typically, this leads them to reuse a familiar set of tactics, including constant logical fallacies, excessive jargon to overcomplicate simple issues, social shaming, and if all else fails threats and intimidation. And even if you win the argument one time, they will be back the next day as though it never happened. + +>>15367756 +>Geography causes bottlenecks. +Geography causes divergent evolution. There is no requirement whatsover for equidistribution of heterozygosity +--- 15367844 +>>15367781 +>The presence of fertility barriers is enough to define a species. +But their absence is not enough. +>Even in subspecies hybridization zones the hybrids still exhibit reduced fertility +No, except if you count assortative mating, but that exists among humans too. +--- 15367845 +>>15345195 (OP) +because there's less genetic variation across all humans than there is in even single populations of our closest relative species +fact is that humans don't have any different species at all by any meaningful definition of the word +--- 15367851 +>>15367813 +Therefore, whites and Africans are the same. +Yeah, but simply saying "Europeans and Africans are different" is vacuous in of itself, it's meaningless and not an argument. Besides I never even said they're the same, just that they're the same species. + +>Therefore, humans are the same as neanderthals, since they can interbreed +No they are fucking not, like here: >>15358327 +Neadnerthal hybrids experienced infertility because Neanderthal genes are missing from human X/Y chromosomes. +--- 15367852 +>>15367845 +>because there's less genetic variation across all humans +By what objective metric? Define species with an objective metric like fixation index and see where that gets you. +--- 15367856 +>>15367852 +by the metric I literally just stated: genetic variation +that has nothing to do with fixation index +--- 15367859 +>>15367851 +Oh, damn! But no worries. Once we find the missing link between neanderthals and humans, suddenly we are again the same species. +--- 15367862 +>>15367844 +>But their absence is not enough. +Uh no, this isnt true actually, at least from a scientific perspective. The only exception maybe is domestication, but artificial selection by humans may be enough to be considered a fertility barrier, so I'm still personally undecided on that one. + +>>15367841 +Ah yes, this wouldn't be a /pol/ thread without some meaningless diatribe about leftists. +--- 15367869 +>>15367845 +>because there's less genetic variation across all humans +What do you mean by this? Be precise. +--- 15367872 +>>15367856 +Lol, yeah, what are the units of genetic variation? What is the amount of genetic variation in humans in those units? +--- 15367877 +>>15367869 +>>15367872 +average percentage of base pairs that are different for any two arbitrarily selected humans +for humans this is ~0.1% +it's not very hard +time to study some basic biology, perhaps? +--- 15367897 +>>15367877 +>average percentage of base pairs that are different for any two arbitrarily selected humans +I put 1000 lions and a squid in a room. The average percentage of base pairs that are different for any two selected creatures in the room is ~0.1%. Therefore, every creature in the room is the same species. + +Your reasoning is on par with that of a handicapped third grader. Try again. +--- 15367915 +>>15367877 +You do not measure genetic distance with Levenstein-distance or Hamming-distance. That's utterly retarded, since most bases are non-coding and that metric does not capture the function at all. In fact, you wouldn't do complete and accurate sequence alignment in any case, since that's computationally so expensive for entire genomes. Most importantly, this does not capture covariance of genes at all, which is a huge aspect in population level differences. + +But obviously, one does not even need to think about genetics. This is a case where Grug arrives at the correct answer with Chad, and only midwits manage to get it wrong: All human gene pools contain almost all alleles, but it is still completely impossible for two whites to produce a black child and vice versa. +>it's not very hard +Inded. That's why it is so sad how you manage to fail it on a fundamental level. + +But it wouldn't be a /leftypol/-thread without smug retards spouting ignorant bullshit and using ridicule as an argument. +--- 15367922 +>>15367862 +Well yeah, leftist parasites have to be called out. Leftist "science" is a cancerous tumor that ruins every field it touches, typically causing damage that can take literal decades to undo. The social sciences are still recovering from the blank slate doctrine of the 60s. Now the left has turned to castrating and mutilating kids in the name of healthcare. + +You cannot wake up someone who is pretending to be asleep. Awareness is the only response. Thanksfully, it is growing rapidly my friend. +--- 15367931 +>>15367897 +you obviously account for the overall genetic structure too +the fact that I even have to state that is rather ridiculous +why do people with so little understanding about genetics always try to make up extremely contrived examples without knowing what they're talking about? +>>15367915 +except that's exactly what we typically do in genetics, at least for the most general statements about genetic variation +also, the idea of "non-coding" DNA is such hilarious nonsense +that "junk DNA" is proving more and more to play active roles in the biology of organisms, which is exactly what you'd expect +imagine clinging to such archaic nonsense to push some sort of weird ideological point at the cost of the facts of reality +and of course to round it off you try to pull the "lol u can just see what's right bro!", as if the history of science isn't literally strewn with erroneous intuitions that have been demolished in the pursuit of actual truth +and how you finish off the post with some reference to politics just makes it more obvious that you have zero interest in biology, only in pushing some ideological dogma without any basis in reality at all +--- 15367943 +>>15367931 +I was just about to mention junk DNA and how blatantly dishonest those morons are. Well at least you know what you're talking about. Seems everyone else who did already gave up on the trolls. Good luck. +--- 15367949 +>>15367931 +>you obviously account for the overall genetic structure too +Lol, this is so sad. I asked you for an objective measure for a species. You couldn't even make it 2 comments before retreating back to this vague, meaningless garbage. + +So let me try this again, what is an objective measure that we can use to distinguish whether two creatures belong to the same species or subspecies? +>and how you finish off the post with some reference to politics +You idiot, he was clearly parodying this post >>15367862 +--- 15367960 +>>15367949 +>Lol, this is so sad. I asked you for an objective measure for a species. You couldn't even make it 2 comments before retreating back to this vague, meaningless garbage. +Wasn't vague or meaningless, I understood him just fine. You're just admitting how clueless you are with extra steps. Same goes for asking for an "objective measure" of a subjective concept https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_concept +--- 15367968 +>>15367702 +>Literally nobody is saying a chair is a construct, a chair is a chair. +This is why I didn't bother, as any honest person with even a middle-school education would immediately realize what a dishonest strawman they wrote. +>The map is not the territory +>durrr so u think the features don't real +I mean come on nobody is genuinely that fucking stupid +--- 15367974 +>>15367960 +>of a subjective concept +Lol, you retards are great. That has literally been my point the entire time. Your worldview can only survive on subjectivity. It falls apart in the slightest context of rigor or objectivity. I'm glad you've just come out and admitted it. Saved me some trouble. + +For the casual onlookers still interested in this thread, organismal classification is only useful because it can map onto something objective. There is no reason that the concept of a species cannot be given an objective criterion. The only reason that it is not is that it would summarily execute the worldview of fragile leftist morons. +--- 15367980 +>>15367974 +>Lol, you retards are great. That has literally been my point the entire time. Your worldview can only survive on subjectivity. It falls apart in the slightest context of rigor or objectivity. +If you think you can make a truly objective definition of "species" that does not devolve into paradoxes, you go right ahead. Go publish it in Nature and become world famous. + +Meanwhile sane people like the rest of us recognize there's nothing inherently meaningful about the borders you decide to place on a map just because that is where you decided to draw the borders. Fucking retard. +--- 15367993 +>>15367980 +>Meanwhile sane people like the rest of us recognize there's nothing inherently meaningful about the borders you decide to place on a map just because that is where you decided to draw the borders. +What is meaningful is the fact that it is impossible to choose a meridian that is west of California without also being west of New York. +>Go publish it in Nature and become world famous. +Lol, what a fucking retard. I'll become famous like the opponents of Lysenkoism in the USSR became famous. +--- 15368023 +>>15367993 +>What is meaningful is the fact that it is impossible to choose a meridian that is west of California without also being west of New York. +Where you draw the lines changes the territory contained within them. Obviously, that changes the features of the territory in any given border you chose to draw. In much the same way, everyone sees your stupid attempt at a trick for what it is. You draw the lines, declare it affirms your bias, and declare you're right because of where you chose to draw the lines. + +All you're doing is begging the question and trying to distract from criticism by making wild accusations and nonsense arguments. +--- 15368046 +>>15367993 +>Lol, what a fucking retard. I'll become famous like the opponents of Lysenkoism in the USSR became famous. +By the way, I said become famous for an objective definition of species. That does not mean "an objective referent point", as obviously all current pragmatic definitions do that, it means "a natural category". That is not "a category that refers to nature". Has nothing to do with race. You could easily publish, if you thought you had one, such a definition and with examples demonstrating a truly "natural category" free of any/all paradoxes and therefore not merely tied to pragmatic utility. +>n-no I can't cuz conspiracy +More like you haven't the first fucking clue what you're talking about. +--- 15368059 +>>15345195 (OP) +It is applied the humans. Homo erectus, Neantherdals, etc. +--- 15368060 +>>15367756 +>We do. +Do you have any proof for that? I assume you mean after the Great Ape era. +--- 15368061 +>>15367931 +>except that's exactly what we typically do in genetics, +We do not do that because its completely nonsensical on population level precisely because the variation within populations is great. Instead, we do clustering based on multiple alignment using, e.g., stochastic context free grammars. or even just principle component analysis. That is how you capture the covariances, which are paramount in pouplation level differences. It matters very little if one gene pool contains all the same genes as another or if the hamming-dinstance between two individuals within a gene pool is greater than that between two individuals between different gene pools because the frequencys of those genes can have massive differences. I honestly find it hard to believe how big of a midwit one must be to actually not understand this. Two whites will never give birth to an African child. Grug understands this. Chad understands this. Only the indoctrinated midwits inbetween seem to struggle. + +You dying on this hill proves that you know extremely little of the subject. If you were to construct a phylogenetic tree of humans, or any creatures, based on pairwise Levenstein distance on the entire genome, you would get absolutely nonsensical results. Not that you would of course be able to do that due to computational complexity, as I said. Yours is the kind of thinking that could be used to explain how fruit flies and humans are actually the same because of the variation between individuals within a gene pool compared to that without. +--- 15368081 +>>15368023 +>where you chose to draw the lines +Unsurprising the point flew way over your head. Keep it up. Your posts are comedy gold. +>n-no I can't cuz conspiracy +Drivel like this used to be much more effective. One of the best things to come out of shit like covid, epstein, WMDs, and so on, is that no one cares what you have to say when you rant about "muh conspiracy theory." Literally no one. You are a drooling retard who would starve to death if you had to use objective facts to produce measurable value to society. And when your fellow leftists finish off Western society, we'll get to watch that happen firsthand. +--- 15368087 +>>15368061 +I should add that this is based on individual alleles or even select bases embedded in a hypercube, and not on genome-sized base-level representation. That would, again, be computationally too expensive. +--- 15368090 +>>15368061 +>Two whites will never give birth to an African child. Grug understands this. Chad understands this. Only the indoctrinated midwits inbetween seem to struggle. +This is such a retarded strawman. +>durrr skin color isn't random therefore racism is justified +Yeah sure it's totally that, has nothing at all to do with the fact you retards claim causal inferences based on skin color the evidence does not support. +>muh associations +Are not causation. +>muh genes doe +Are demonstrably not significant enough even with association to account for phenotypic variance you retards assume is "due to race" due to how few alleles are that rare between populations. + +It amounts to a bunch of racists understanding nothing about anything making shit up to hide the fact the evidence does not support the inferences they make. There's a reason scientists are laughing at you idiots. +--- 15368100 +>>15368081 +>Unsurprising the point flew way over your head. Keep it up. Your posts are comedy gold. +Unsurprising you evade the refutation by pretending you made some other point. + +Go ahead genius. Explain exactly what you think "flew over my head". Or just keep making vague insults to pretend you have a point. +--- 15368123 +>>15368090 +Is skin color the only heritable trait? I wasn't aware of that. +--- 15368132 +>>15368087 +Yeah yeah curse of dimensionality and so on. Why even bring that up? Principle component analysis isn't relevant to anything being discussed, either, and if you think it is you're completely lost. Especially if you think your choice to group by a process that unsurprisingly follows population descent is some kind of refutation. +--- 15368135 +>>15368123 +Skin colour is determined by socioeconomic reasons, Chud. +--- 15368136 +>>15368123 +>Is skin color the only heritable trait? I wasn't aware of that. +>>Thinks heritable means inherited +every fucking time holy shit without fail +--- 15368146 +>>15368136 +Are you ESL? +--- 15368147 +>>15368123 +>>15368135 +alzheimer's is highly heritable, yet not inherited. + +almost like there's a difference between mendelian traits and non-mendelian traits. +--- 15368151 +>>15368146 +>Are you ESL? +No. You're just clueless. +--- 15368154 +>>15368147 +>>15368151 +Does genetic influence stop at the epidermis? I wasn't aware of that. +--- 15368155 +>>15368100 +Oh no, it's far more fun to watch you embarrass yourself stuffing terms like "chose" or "affirm" into as many words as you can. It is projection of the highest order, since opposing nature through subjectivity, obfuscation, and "forced solipsism" is the standard MO of leftism. + +Reminds me of how Gould used to charge all his opponents with accusations of bias and fraud, only for us to later discover his own work was drenched in it. It's just the same story over and over again. You are literally too retarded to engage more deeply than this. It isn't worth the time. The only people I care about are the third parties who might otherwise be persuaded by your confident drivel. +--- 15368162 +>>15368155 +It's best to ignore him. He's the same smug midwit who argues himself into circles in all of these threads. His narcissism won't allow him to admit defeat so he contorts his arguments any way that will make it seem like he isn't defeating himself. +--- 15368164 +>>15368154 +>Does genetic influence stop at the epidermis? I wasn't aware of that. +Weird, I could've sworn I was writing in English, and yet here you are acting as if you read something that wasn't written. More importantly, where's your causal evidence behavioral traits covary DUE TO epidermal differences? +>>15368155 +>Continues to admit he has nothing but evasion +--- 15368166 +>>15368164 +>More importantly, where's your causal evidence behavioral traits covary DUE TO epidermal differences? +Weird, I could've sworn I was writing in English, and yet here you are acting as if you read something that wasn't written. +--- 15368167 +>>15368162 +>People are catching on to our rhetoric +>no, it's all the same anon in every thread +--- 15368177 +>>15368167 +You can identify him by phrases that are variations on "the map is not the territory" when trying to deny objective measurements. +--- 15368178 +>>15368166 +>>More importantly, where's your causal evidence behavioral traits covary DUE TO epidermal differences? +>Weird, I could've sworn I was writing in English, and yet here you are acting as if you read something that wasn't written. +lol thanks for conceding every single point about race not being meaningful. Child proceeds to argue himself right off a cliff that's fucking hilarious +--- 15368184 +>>15368177 +>You can identify him by phrases that are variations on "the map is not the territory" when trying to deny objective measurements. +>the obvious problem with our ideology can only be recognized by a single anon +--- 15368188 +>>15368178 +I don't know how you tie your shoes in the morning. Holy cow. +--- 15368200 +>>15368188 +Hey, I'm just like any other guy. I pay my taxes one leg at a time. +--- 15368221 +>>15368167 +He literally admitted to being the same guy making the same arguments in another thread. It is clear he spends hours obsessing over this topic on 4chan every day. I guess the easiest way to suppress the cognitive dissonance of a senseless and contradictory worldview is through constant verbal reinforcement. +--- 15368256 +>>15368221 +I think he's a jew trying to practice his pilpul. +--- 15368562 +>>15345278 +so grizzly bears and polar bears are the same species because they can produce viable fertile offspring with each other? +Same with wolfes, dogs, coyotes, and a bunch of other canines? +--- 15369587 +>>15368562 +Is English "a" pronouced as a, or e? Same problem. diff --git a/sci/15345659.txt b/sci/15345659.txt index ed6a330b476125c0a47fe13bfb59790e33238ae8..e7c096f1207ab0956c8f0a39c7fd90322027b801 100644 --- a/sci/15345659.txt +++ b/sci/15345659.txt @@ -439,3 +439,12 @@ There literally isn't a single job that won't be replaceable. We will have robot >>15345659 (OP) do whatever you’re good at and won’t make you feel like killing yourself. surgery seems cool but i don’t think a lot of people can really take on that responsibility. +--- 15368841 +>>15346629 +Those eye drops aren't OTC because they're antibiotics and there are enough stupid people for antibiotic resistance to be a concern. +--- 15368861 +>>15345659 (OP) +Good on you, OP. I'm in a PhD program and am thinking about jumping ship to med school specifically for the surgical route. AI will be a problem for non-physical fields far before robotics will become a problem for surgeons, and even once they do surgeons will just lower their salaries to be competitive against very expensive robots. Of course that would be a problem for new surgeons with med school debt if we can't fix the terrible med school system before then. +--- 15368992 +>>15345778 +In my experience, Viz.ai is only around 70% specific, 70% sensitive for LVO. Somehow there automated hemorrhage detection seems even worse so far. diff --git a/sci/15346155.txt b/sci/15346155.txt index a13f471f4b12cf350db1946ebde9cae59a319914..5874cb85fc9daed4072419cf5693f45f9d3bb4c9 100644 --- a/sci/15346155.txt +++ b/sci/15346155.txt @@ -239,3 +239,33 @@ I guess that's his charm :D always predicting. Would be funny if it was accurate and the russians/americans could've just opened the book and won the cold war easily. I recently got a hardcover 20 000 leagues under the sea with some pictures for my birthday. :) fun fact the title in dutch says 20 000 miles instead of leagues which is a bit silly since there's a difference. +--- 15367402 +>>15365786 +>buying books +Do boomers really? +--- 15367450 +just got it delivered, bought for 9 bucks used in decent condition +--- 15367518 +>>15346215 +Daily reminder that there is no such thing as marital rape. +--- 15369056 +>>15367450 +good for you +--- 15369123 +>>15369076 +>1 book every 4 days +that's a fairly small amount of reading for an average-intelligence person, I'd say? I wouldn't WANT to read a double helping of anime in that timeframe, but I could easily. +--- 15369138 +>>15346155 (OP) +>Don't you want to follow in the footsteps of this esteemed physicist and Nobel laureate, Richard Feynman? + +>>15346215 +>But apparently her "Shades of Gray" and similar trashy erotic novels are perfectly fine for our guests to see. + +>>15369076 +>where's Waldo + +>>15358141 +>The only actual book reader in the thread posts a picture of used dirty used books because he knows it's the only way to btfo and prove he's not a shelf geomancing pseud like the rest. + +One of the rare pepe posting bait threads that's actually good for a change. diff --git a/sci/15346241.txt b/sci/15346241.txt index 12dce88876ce695660dae7b8d0fbae4ca519d34d..7962deb71793a9ba6913d4bf5fdaeff19a0c243c 100644 --- a/sci/15346241.txt +++ b/sci/15346241.txt @@ -521,3 +521,9 @@ His followers IN ANCIENT GREECE didn't. --- 15366766 >>15366761 Yes his followers did because he specifically taught them to follow the principles of Aristotelianism which inherently relied on two different people debating their sensory experience and coming to an agreement which is the process that initiated the development of the scientific method. +--- 15369306 +>>15366651 +only if you care about science. if you only care about your sinecure then its not needed +--- 15369350 +>>15366651 +Who told you that? Peer reviewers almost never replicate the experiments of papers they sign off on. diff --git a/sci/15346458.txt b/sci/15346458.txt index 8843e63bc0af41f4ecaea9ee7a0c2554deff5caa..1a8874145dff9c6de3b9e1c3e4fcc6add7ae18b7 100644 --- a/sci/15346458.txt +++ b/sci/15346458.txt @@ -277,3 +277,7 @@ making stuff muh digital will not help anybody understand and solve problems bet >>15361229 >it's damn good No rigour whatsoever, and just a massive tome loaded with filler so the publisher can charge more. Flashy presentation, but very little substance. I suggest serious anons stick with Apostol, Spivak or take the Zorich pill. +--- 15368045 +bump + +i'm about to buy Spivak's book diff --git a/sci/15347277.txt b/sci/15347277.txt index a064f664b6b7caf2a449a4453cd54003b81b56f2..653ffa2cf2eed3da1f146d5df13e1852cf689adf 100644 --- a/sci/15347277.txt +++ b/sci/15347277.txt @@ -678,3 +678,83 @@ I have a reference to it which makes me assume it was translated to english some >Shunichi Kubo, “Researches on Incest in Japan,” Hiroshima Journal of Medical Science 8(1959): 99-159 The archives on their site only go back as far as volume 30 from 1981 https://ir.lib.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/en/list/HU_journals/AA00664312 +--- 15367286 +>>15367085 +this general never disappoints +--- 15367608 +>>15367085 +message the authors, maybe one of them is still alive +--- 15367682 +>>15365355 +>>15365375 +>>15365390 + +I have a similar question. What if I list it on ERAS to apply to pathology? +--- 15367794 +>>15366869 +coincidentally I see that describes you +--- 15368140 +>>15358672 +I really just wanted some insight into why I hear voices, I've asked my psychiatrist but I'm sort of brushed off by my psychiatrist who just wants to discuss my mood/medication. No recommendations into theories/papers/books. + +Anons can ask and I'll answer with my experiences. +--- 15368676 +I wish I became a doctor instead of a scientist. I do breast cancer research which sounds impressive to girls but it's not the pussy slaying career a doctor has. It's a beta orbiter career. +--- 15368678 +>>15368140 +If you want to learn about the physiological mechanism by which hallucinations occur in the experience of those who hear voices you will probably be disappointed. This is still an active area of research with several competing models and no one really knows. In terms of an individual's risk of psychosis, it seems to be a combination of genetic vulnerability and exposure to things like adverse childhood experiences (eg sexual abuse, beatings) as well as certain drugs. +--- 15368856 +my nightmares have become too realistic to be able to wake myself up from them before the panic sets in. sometimes it's not even my own real life worries, just random panic inducing scenarios to torment me. +is this a good enough reason to take ssris? i am waking up 1 or multiple times in the middle of my sleep 3-4 times a week +--- 15368869 +>>15368676 +So let me guess it's that they aren't pumping out babies and having their milkers worked properly over their lifetime that is leading to breast cancer right? +--- 15368870 +>>15368676 +grass is always greener on the other side. if you were a doctor you'd wish you were a researcher +--- 15368872 +>>15368676 +>but it's not the pussy slaying career a doctor has. +I'm in medical school and I'm a KHHV, dude. +--- 15368875 +>>15368872 +Bro literally just download dating apps, I've had success with them and I'm borderline autistic +--- 15368881 +>>15368875 +Wouldn't I just attract gold diggers? +--- 15368888 +>>15368881 +I mean sure there will be some women who look at your profile and figure you have deep pockets since they don't understand how medical education works. But you may also meet some people worth your time. The important thing is just putting yourself out there. +--- 15368917 +>>15368888 +Yeah I guess dating apps are the only way. I don't have any friends so I can't meet girls through personal connections or anything. +--- 15369265 +How can I increase the efficiency of my frontal cortex? What about its size, can I make it bigger? +--- 15369448 +>>15366762 +>>15364706 +That's the whole point. GPT is entirely wrong. That's a text book case of acute arterial occlusion. Yet GPT confuses it with DVT (since both of them are referred to as blood clots) which is hardly the most likely diagnosis. +--- 15369473 +>>15368872 +Mf literally just hook up with the cute people in your classes +Med school is so much easier to do this than college was +--- 15369648 +>>15369473 +>Mf literally just hook up with the cute people in your classes +How does that work? The people in medical school have the same pedigree as me so being a doctor isn't all that impressive. I feel like that's the only thing I got going for me. Also, I'm scared that if a relationship goes south, I'm stuck with seeing them. +--- 15369655 +>>15369648 +>I feel like that's the only thing I got going for me. +I forgot to say, but I say this because I'm pretty sure I'm ugly/creepy, which is a death sentence. In my undergraduate, I got banned from the gym for "being creepy". +--- 15369724 +>>15369473 +None of the girls like me after not transitioning into a "cute medicine couple". Unfortunately, all the guys are pussy whipped and step in line too. They're all gigacunts anyway, but just fyi. Don't shit where you eat as they say. +--- 15369747 +>>15367608 +He must have been dead half a century. +Can I visit a local univerity medical department and access it through them? +Or would emailing the journal get me anywhere? +--- 15369796 +>>15369724 +>Don't shit where you eat +nta, but i tell my classmates this diff --git a/sci/15347459.txt b/sci/15347459.txt index d52277e7978a61aef9e1ed7bfcd87aba9574d9a0..360c2d0d757204a773ed23c31bcc22cf2a18fd8d 100644 --- a/sci/15347459.txt +++ b/sci/15347459.txt @@ -306,3 +306,21 @@ when Monsanto does it Because the influx of science started to become so large that individual scientists didnt have time to gatekeep schizos out of their field, so peer review did it for them. Uncoincidentally at the same time science was becoming more difficult/advanced, so more studies were needed. Now it appears that it's becoming so difficult that grouping together isnt even helping. +--- 15367492 +>>15347459 (OP) +>Is abusing the peer review system to silence dissent equivalent to admitting that you have no rational basis to defend your point of view? +Yes, its also equivalent to deciding the value of pi by vote +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill +--- 15369312 +imagine being lame enough to consider scientists your peer +if i looked in the mirror & saw the equivalent of picrel i'd presume somone had played an unreasonably nasty practical joke on me +--- 15369564 +>>15365832 +Bullshit. You began labelling actual scientists as schizos so that you can push whatever agenda you have. +--- 15369577 +>>15365814 +I don't really care, I still reply unless it's obvious. You can tell by the pseudo-logical thinking that schizos use, and there definitely is at least one who calls other people schizos, but as I said, I don't really care. +--- 15369589 +>>15369577 +>i don't care +>*makes longwinded reply filled with emotional distress signals* diff --git a/sci/15348949.txt b/sci/15348949.txt index e7fbe394b84754dca7e954d89aeb97511e3cdc14..9540a2f75a2e1f9990162e172ded1e013d8e8d2b 100644 --- a/sci/15348949.txt +++ b/sci/15348949.txt @@ -176,3 +176,6 @@ God help us all. why are posts being deleted --- 15366495 uh oh stinky +--- 15369297 +>>15366068 +that all goes back to jannie's child pornography arrest, jannie was offered the choice between a long prison term or continuing his life of masturbating to child pornography as a member of the fbi's criminal informant program diff --git a/sci/15349240.txt b/sci/15349240.txt index 808154d9fec516d5f9bcfe3bebd8db82c1c18509..e27faf9694aae1ea0fcabeadf2fed837ee0fc04b 100644 --- a/sci/15349240.txt +++ b/sci/15349240.txt @@ -180,3 +180,10 @@ Sunlight is absorbed by water droplets and re-emitted. It's scattered. If it'd s And microwaves work slightly different. The earth radiates mainly energy in the infrared spectrum. Infrared light excites vibration. Microwaves emit, well, microwaves. Those excite rotation. The rotation of the water molecules lead to friction which produces the heat. --- 15366848 that's all folks, another scam exposed +--- 15368152 +>>15366848 +Belief in global warming has nothing to do with science, it has everything to do with messiah complex mental illness and selfish desire to be seen as a hero +--- 15369342 +>>15364830 +.0098 +the percentage signs cancel out and the number becomes unitless diff --git a/sci/15349846.txt b/sci/15349846.txt index e36f446d4650a64555a6c3c335e16ddf2dd0ee41..170c993f4f0db5962b13738d4af8fe4f56d70275 100644 --- a/sci/15349846.txt +++ b/sci/15349846.txt @@ -1019,3 +1019,165 @@ yes --- 15367180 >>15366918 Not sure about the security clearance part but if a company that wants to hire you/hired you then that is not normal and a big red flag. What have you been doing for 3 months? +--- 15367206 +>>15352264 +As with most things underage retards on here say, it's extremely oversimplified. +--- 15367222 +>>15355666 +I used to work at a mental hospital and we had an old guy who tried to blow his head off with a shotgun a long time ago and survived. His face was extremely disfigured and there was a huge hole in his throat. They say if you're going to kill yourself you need to put the barrel of the gun in your mouth, otherwise the front of your skull can possibly absorb too much of the force and some braindead doctor will labor for days to keep you alive. +--- 15367229 +>>15367180 +Gooning. +--- 15367306 +My physics 2 professor just said my university is going to open a new branch of engineering called "mathematical-physics engineering". He mentioned photons and quatum computers and honestly it sounds dope as fuck. +I'm first year of ME, meaning I should in theory be able to switch very easily. Is it something worth considering or a meme degree that will get me a position at mcdonalds? +--- 15367400 +>>15367306 +>I'm first year of ME +--- 15367454 +>>15367306 +sounds like a retarded meme degree. +--- 15367611 +>>15367306 +Optoelectronics, optomechanics and quantum computing are well funded and growing fields so makes sense that they are targeting that. Much more of a physics and EE thing though. +As with any research field, worth considering if you're interested in it for a researh career and think it is has a future. Worth thinking about how employable those skills are. +--- 15367786 +>>15366918 +some companies are a real fucking mess + +i recently was contacted by a recruiter, was asked to apply via their company portal after a phone screen, had my application rejected by mistake, and then got an offer from them + +another company had the exact same phone screen with me twice because the boomer on the phone misplaced his notes and did not understand email +--- 15368120 +Anyone knows how difficult it is to get an internship at ASML in Europe? +Context: +I'm a physics bachelor and the MSc I'm completing is a mix of materials science and nanotech. I would be doing the internship as my thesis work. I've seen on ASML website that there are many open internship positions, and some look really interesting. They just say "contact us" and ask for CV and cover letter. I was wondering how much competition there is for these interships and what determines if you are accepted or not. My MSc grades are quite good, my BSc not so much. +Also, I'm from a EU country, but not the Netherlands. +--- 15368213 +I basically have all the theory on how to study down to perfection but I can't seem to apply it +I have been trying for quite some time and I just can't do it +I know my problems, like not being able to focus very well and spending countless hours on the first distraction I pick up after I try to study but I can't stop +any explanation as to why and what I can do? It's starting to get very frustrating and taking a toll on me +--- 15368286 +What career path should I follow if I want to help create AGI? Serious answers only, please +--- 15368313 +>>15357035 +I know someone who graduated from a university ranked not even in top 1000 and is CEO over a country on one of the major banks... so depends on the individual and connections. +--- 15368347 +>>15368120 +>Anyone knows how difficult it is to get an internship at ASML in Europe? +They are famous and most likely so popular this will be hard. +Also, due to the global political situation, you will probably need security clearance, and no doubt also US agencies will demand to check all applicants. Your record has to be squeaky clean. +--- 15368386 +>>15367306 +We have a similar degree here in Sweden engineer of "technical physics". Has a very good reputation here, although it often includes specializations/majors in electrical engineering, computer vision, etc. so it's sort of a catch-all program as well. +--- 15368396 +>>15367400 +Here in spain ME is considered very employable, but on this board I keep seeing EE and ME are out of jobs. +Is it an american only problem or was I just lied to by people here? +Does getting a masters degree fix it or is it over? +--- 15368415 +>>15368347 +>They are famous and most likely so popular this will be hard +Should I try anyways? And should I apply for multiple positions or just one at the time? + +>US agencies will demand to check all applicants. Your record has to be squeaky clean. +What does the US have to do with this? By the way my record is clean, if you mean criminal charges. +--- 15368421 +>>15349846 (OP) +i'm getting a BSc in Computer Science since it has always been my passion but only now i'm getting worried about my jobs prospects. +for example all the graduates i met are working in front-end development which is something i already knew how to do before enrolling in university and isn't much interesting either. +what do i need to study to be able to get a change to work at FAANG or other big companies? i feel like i'm not learning anything here because i always explored things on my own and all the interesting stuff i discovered up to now have always been of the kind "introduction to X" which is never enough to study something in depth. +i like programming but i want to apply it to important and interesting stuff. +--- 15368428 +>>15368396 +>Here in spain +Wanna switch? I miss Spanish qts, hottest (and nicest) girls I've met +--- 15368460 +>>15368120 +I work for ASML. I might be able to go on our intranet and get you internal reference links. You might stand out that way. I am from the US though so if they check that and then ask how you know me in an interview or something it might be awkward. +I can't do it for 2 days though I'm on a business trip and forgot my VPN chip thingy to log on with. +--- 15368465 +>>15368120 +>>15368460 +Same anon here, I forgot to say, go ahead and apply right now, and apply for literally every position you find relevant. Send as many applications as you can. +The different groups are highly fragmented at ASML and they all have different managers and recruiters. You might get instantly rejected and they think you are dogshit in 1 group, and then another group might hire you ASAP and think you are amazing. There's no way to predict, just apply to as many as possible. +--- 15368500 +>>15368396 +I think it's an American thing, MEs get employed easily here + +>>15368428 +I also really miss the chicas there. They were so nice to me, other roasties just can't compete (maybe greeks, maybe). + +>>15368421 +Hardware, embedded, NN, just pick one relevant subfield and make it your niche, specialize the fuck out of it. +--- 15368504 +>>15368460 +>internal reference links +Wait I'm not sure I'm following, you mean employees are given referral links to give out to people they know who might wanna work for the company? + +>>15368465 +This is very useful, thank you. Any advice on how early I should start applying? Like if I'll be ready to start the internship in 7 months, is it too early to apply now? +--- 15368523 +>>15368504 +We have our own internal job board that is not available to the public. Positions usually get posted here first. People change jobs and move around a lot within ASML. I've never done it before but you can refer someone to a job, I think you put in their email and then it sends them a personal application link to apply. +Recruiters and managers can tell the difference between an external and an internal application, so if you have an internal one it gets you more attention. + +Usually internships specifically state a time when the internship will start and end. Things might be different in Europe. If you find internships that are saying they will start when you are ready to start, then go ahead and apply. But don't apply for something you don't plan on doing obviously. +--- 15368575 +>>15368523 +Well that is a generous offer anon but I'm worried it might get me in some trouble? I mean, is it legitimate get recommended by someone you must have met online? + +>Usually internships specifically state a time when the internship will start and end +You are right I didn't check properly, some of them have the starting date. However many just say "starting as soon as possible", what about those? + +By the way, what do you do at ASML? Do you like it? +--- 15368672 +Why did you choose your field? I chose cancer science mostly because it sounds impressive to normies, and breast cancer entirely because it may sound impressive to girls. Still a virgin though. +--- 15368862 +>>15368672 +Physics because it was hard and I thought I was big brained and applied experimental shit once I realized I'm not. +--- 15369070 +>>15368672 +>scientist discovers cure for breast cancer +>when asked why he entered the ,field he answered, "pussy" +--- 15369077 +>>15369070 +Cleaned a lot of plates in Memphis +Pumped a lot of 'TANE down in New Orleans +--- 15369142 +>>15367206 +But it’s true? +--- 15369170 +>>15369142 +Yes. I don't know if the matter is confused by Amerilards who consider a masters degree grad school, but for a PhD you should absolutely be getting funded, especially in STEM. + +I will say that the funding doesn't have to come directly from the PI/university, and in fact getting a third party to fund you might give you more money and look better in your CV. Especially since academia is basically a machine for securing gibs it looks good if you show you're adept at securing the gibs. +--- 15369212 +>>15349846 (OP) +I just graduated with a BSc in civil engineering but I've recently discovered a strong interest in applied statistics, evolutionary algorithms, ML, etc so I'm now planning to do an online distance-learning MSc in applied statistics while working. + +Is there any career/job I can get into in industry that requires specialized blended knowledge of civil engineering and applied statistics, in particular the current memes of ML, NN, etc? I'd also love it if this background could get me into a research scientist position, maybe with an industrial PhD but I don't want to push my luck if its not feasible. + +I know BIM jobs might be open to someone of my background but is there anything else I'm missing that I can capitalize on that not many people have the necessary background in? +--- 15369434 +How low does your GPA have to get to put you out of the running for top grad programs? I fucked up this semester and my cumulative GPA will fall to a 3.6 - 3.7. +--- 15369847 +>>15369142 +Not really. If they didn't want you there, then you wouldn't be there. +>>15369170 +A master's program is graduate school in the US. It's a degree program that is attended by graduates, hence the name "graduate school." +--- 15369851 +https://www.levels.fyi/offer/4c5c3dac-0bfa-40ae-bb1a-ef63df090ea0 + +>tfw someone with only 2 years of experience is making 1.8 million a year +>tfw this person must be not be more than 26 yo + +Wtf do you have to be and do to get a salary like this?? +--- 15369982 +>>15369851 +>Wtf do you have to be and do to get a salary like this?? +Be born into the WASP/Jewish elite. +--- 15369995 +>>15369212 +What you are suggesting sounds very realistic, but you should be aware those kind of positions are very competative/luck based. diff --git a/sci/15351786.txt b/sci/15351786.txt index 4b9f8216dc17bf30fa728b0c6611eede68080949..13de794db2b631a34a9fe1f44c557edac552b107 100644 --- a/sci/15351786.txt +++ b/sci/15351786.txt @@ -104,3 +104,65 @@ the brain is part of the body --- 15366551 >>15352256 A voice can be trained. +--- 15367290 +>>15354727 +Beautiful is an adjective that can be applied to many different things, like someone’s personality. There are many beautiful people that are ugly on the inside. +--- 15367512 +>>15367290 +>There are many beautiful people that are ugly on the inside. +common delusion, but there are not, people who do not care to make the effort to beautify their exterior will also never do so for their interior. +--- 15367621 +Is beauty subjective or objective? +--- 15367699 +>>15366496 +Anon. Did you just call me stupid? +--- 15367763 +>>15367621 +Beauty is objective +Sexual attractiveness is subjective +For example this lancia stratos makes my dick throb, might not do the same to you but none can deny that it is objectively a beautiful car +EOT +--- 15367876 +>>15367763 +hey ferb look, i turned myself into a car +--- 15367916 +not science +--- 15367994 +>>15351792 +>sexist image because beautiful girls (used to) recognize naturally beautiful things as meaningful +Please choke on your goyslop tonight +--- 15368143 +>>15367512 +Read >>15352256 +--- 15368304 +>>15367763 +Car are mostly used for their practicality, a better example would be clothing or something else. +--- 15368328 +>>15351786 (OP) +Beautiful things are good. You are an ugly midiwt. +--- 15368342 +>>15358747 +If you fill your schedule with "doing something" and never give yourself time to think and reflect on what you've learned, then you'll always be hopeless midwit. + +Thinking can be done at the gym, or while taking walks through the park as innumerable famous thinkers in science have done. +--- 15368355 +>>15368304 +Clothes are mostly used for their practicality. +--- 15368373 +>>15368355 +Yet people are willing to take more risks with it, unlike buying an expensive 3 doors sport car . +--- 15369346 +>>15367763 +Needs lifted rear suspension & mag wheels +--- 15369361 +>>15367763 +phineas ass looking car +--- 15369407 +>>15354754 +Anybody who doesn't think that nihilism is obvious is fucking KIDDING themselves. +--- 15369408 +>>15358729 +This is why they believe in things like "black holes" and "dark matter." +--- 15369414 +>>15369408 +as well as "meaning" and "purpose" diff --git a/sci/15353120.txt b/sci/15353120.txt index 256a26c8e70d853720da31787da66bef27de17ac..b7a86b1ff16aaaa63e97c16026d6928385dcdb74 100644 --- a/sci/15353120.txt +++ b/sci/15353120.txt @@ -314,3 +314,20 @@ I used to watch Joe Rogan's sciency ones for just that; afterwork chats, with dr --- 15366564 >Science falling victim to 'crisis of narcissism' https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jan/20/science-victim-crisis-narcissism-academia +--- 15367541 +>>15353120 (OP) +>a growth in the use of first-person singular pronouns, reflecting a greater focus on the self, +yes, the people with the personality disorder expose their disorder to anyone who wants to notice via the way the communicate. self centeredness is an unreasonable or exclusive focus on the self. +--- 15368117 +>>15364930 +It will never be replaced because its owned by Google/In-Q-Tel and complies with government censorship demands. It's competitors will be shut down because they are not under the same control. +--- 15369402 +>>15355407 +j e a l o u s +e +r +r +y +--- 15369571 +>>15353242 +been downhill for all of europe since the 1800s diff --git a/sci/15353202.txt b/sci/15353202.txt index 45dffc312917477712966ed4de0416988267864f..43279679894999670196884b734f1fd82bc3e613 100644 --- a/sci/15353202.txt +++ b/sci/15353202.txt @@ -303,3 +303,38 @@ Principal Component Analysis. Every explanation is just so handwavy. >>15362697 >"we lack absolute truth" depends on context. No because it is an absolute statement rather than contextual or contingent. +--- 15367459 +>>15366619 +>No because it is an absolute statement rather than contextual or contingent. +It is contingent on whether or not we have absolute truth. As it is conditional, and contingent therefore, it is not "an absolute truth" you smoothbrain +--- 15367639 +>>15367459 +You are basically saying it is only conditional on itself, that is the only context needed, nothing else affects its truth, that is the definition of an absolute truth. +--- 15367658 +>>15367639 +>You are basically saying it is only conditional on itself, +Doesn't, but were that true you've just discovered the paradoxical nature of abstract systems and the relevance of one of goddel's incompleteness theorems. If it's conditional on itself, it results in a paradox, and cannot be said to be true as a result, resulting in yet further paradoxes (explosion). + +In your constant pathetic attempts to troll you've looped right back around to independently admitting I was right in the first place. Congratulations. +--- 15367676 +>>15367658 +>the paradoxical nature of abstract systems +No, it is the law of identity, every single thing is contingent on itself, that is how you know it can be true to say it is itself, the explosion only happens when you say it can be true that it is not itself rather than it is itself. + +I don't quite understand, does being a bot feel like being stuck in a loop or something? +--- 15367683 +>>15367676 +No no keep going I want to see if you overheat and explode +--- 15367704 +>>15367683 +I accept your concession. +--- 15368187 +>>15367704 +Weird you'd accept my concession of your stupidity that quickly but okay +--- 15368249 +>>15366308 +I saw everything turn into colored fractals. + +Years later, when my third eye opened, I recognized the mild to sometimes moderate high of DMT because I tried it before. + +While mildly high I could sense magnetic fields and all kinds if other crazy shit. I detail some of it here; >>15368096 → diff --git a/sci/15354147.txt b/sci/15354147.txt index ba35bf1009681d495e07d30b554a1ab789ff5b28..aa4a098fba022e1c7f92733cd1ce0c016e887e19 100644 --- a/sci/15354147.txt +++ b/sci/15354147.txt @@ -152,3 +152,23 @@ not great for Europe but effective in colonies >>15354147 (OP) There are vast coar reserves all ovre the world. Under the North Sea alone, there are 3000 cubic kilometres of coal deposits. That is enough for a rather impressive mountain range. Fischer-Tropsch has been a thing for about 100 years, so there is no problem making liquid fuel for the foreseeable future. +--- 15367526 +>>15367091 +USA could easily grow all corn ethanol it needed for fuel if it didn't want to export grain, nothing much would change even if oil were to run out +--- 15368438 +>>15366470 +abiogenic oil = natural fischer tropsch process with geothermal source +--- 15368506 +>>15367526 +>conversion of diesel (tractors) and nat gas (haber Bosch) into shitty corn oil +I’m sure that will get us off oil +--- 15368548 +>>15368506 +Why do we need to be "off" oil anyway? It's abiotic and renewable. +--- 15369348 +>>15368548 +Musk & his globohomo butt buddies wanna make more money +--- 15369832 +>>15355020 +>Renewables can't replace oil, they can supplement the power grid +intermittent sources actually disrupt the grid diff --git a/sci/15354724.txt b/sci/15354724.txt index 08181086176f14ddfcdfc6bcf34e37da3bc4af35..958ed826ce3730c0ce6929736c6b44748cf37ef0 100644 --- a/sci/15354724.txt +++ b/sci/15354724.txt @@ -125,3 +125,18 @@ Dude was a good scientist, but just a scientist, he had the brains to be so much --- 15366544 >>15366510 the jewish god of the atheist scientism religion agrees +--- 15368282 +>>15358712 +Tesla was Serbian, he would've helped Tito if he could have or possibly Stalin, but not Hitler +--- 15368354 +>>15368282 +he was from Croatia, he would have worked with Hitler +--- 15368985 +>>15357302 +MAGA with confetti! +--- 15369406 +>>15368354 +He wasn't a Catholic, not a Croatian cuck +--- 15369752 +>>15368282 +Tito was a Croat though. diff --git a/sci/15354855.txt b/sci/15354855.txt index 19aa4a3a42e0870455429ed37c6bc72394ad9203..f6b9142a563cb573ab59e3456eef5ed06f31366b 100644 --- a/sci/15354855.txt +++ b/sci/15354855.txt @@ -129,3 +129,10 @@ so regarding >>15365247, generation 2 would be the maximum inbred (50/50, as you --- 15367122 >>15354855 (OP) >Sawagoe Tomaru is my role model +--- 15368646 +>>15366178 +No. A maximum of inbreeding would be achieved when the last of you original partners genes die out, leaving only your genes in the mix. + +From there it would plateau and each generation would be equally inbred. +--- 15369366 +This fucking thread again? I responded to the same goddamn bullshit last week. diff --git a/sci/15355602.txt b/sci/15355602.txt index 692c26d78541b5d035129eba0245c9b62c8a4416..70b6e9ff1d9844f81dc702aca32fe4467ce7e5ea 100644 --- a/sci/15355602.txt +++ b/sci/15355602.txt @@ -59,3 +59,6 @@ for the record, i haven't heard of that sign before, but copers are probably bet --- 15366489 >>15357476 it's skewed by yankoids and beaners +--- 15367847 +>>15366482 + life is mostly determined, astrology just happens to describe it in a very interesting way diff --git a/sci/15356599.txt b/sci/15356599.txt index 0874fe7ea7a7be71b0945790a2097e9a865c8ab8..565a9b9dc7ff8ad099226b9d686ae28be5a91474 100644 --- a/sci/15356599.txt +++ b/sci/15356599.txt @@ -20,9 +20,6 @@ Worked for me --- 15357959 >>15356599 (OP) Try to be raw fruitarian and replace water with herbal tea. Unscientific way to do what all those supps do and it helped me ---- 15358131 ->>15356599 (OP) -Try a big black BBC --- 15358184 >>15356599 (OP) ngti @@ -126,3 +123,10 @@ Dim the lights Free download I saved your money bro. +--- 15368089 +>>15358730 +>unfortunately +wrong +--- 15369340 +>>15358558 +announcing a report or sage is against the board rules diff --git a/sci/15356823.txt b/sci/15356823.txt index a7214f958198b345be0dd9afcd15fbd518d9e97c..f3d4a58c1e145926074b509ebe3bde3246da5577 100644 --- a/sci/15356823.txt +++ b/sci/15356823.txt @@ -252,3 +252,67 @@ https://youtu.be/b8JZo6PzpCU?t=94 [Embed] so is a roomba --- 15367074 >>15358248 +--- 15368043 +>>15367074 +There's no way it doesn't even know what a mammal is. Is this fake? +--- 15368071 +>>15367074 +>>15368043 +This is what I got. +--- 15368134 +>>15356883 +If we lived in the kind of society that would replace most administration, HR, accounting&finance, marketing and other office jobs on a whim in search of raw productivity, why would we suffer them all these years? It's not even a secret overwhelming majority of these barely produces minimum if not negative value and nobody really likes them, so why haven't we just put them to the sword already instead of actually increasing amount of bullshit jobs over the years? +And that doesn't even touch on most of coders (grossly overpaid especially in big tech and barely anyone can tell what majority of them does whole days) and managerial class (nobody can even really objectively evaluate whether their management does anything of value at all). Yet businesses and governments are more than happy to overpay. +--- 15368163 +Yes. +--- 15368252 +>>15368134 +Taxing the only productive people and paying the rest to live would have bad results (cf Calhoun's experiment). So siphoning money off of the saving middle-class, putting it back in corporations so that they can pay some strong woman and a faggot to sit at a desk is an elaborate way to avoid that and perpetuate the very necessary struggle without which people collapse. That's a good reason, but it's not the reason they do it. We could easily pay people to live but impose certain conditions (eg a 26 year would get tested on IQ and sent to university to come out an engineer of some sort 3 or 4 years later and actually contribute working at some power plant). So why don't they just come clean with it and say "hey guys, 18% or so of the people actually support the rest, we'll take X from you and distribute it as such"? Their reason is ideological. People who contribute are mechanics, engineers, farmers, construction workers even, etc. Mmhhh... what's the demographic across such jobs? That's right, it's all evil (mostly white, 90+% right-wing) men. If you want to take from them and give to others, they'll have a say where this goes, and something tells me they wouldn't want it to go to tranny parades, EBT, or paying the outrageous salary of a "marketing specialist". In fact I'm fairly certain they'd propose something like I wrote above ie give it to them and make them contribute. By printing money (ie stealing from the saving class), leveraging themselves to the sky, etc, governments and corporations can transfer wealth by paying le strong "product manager" females $100k a year + push lgbt (while a CFD engineer in France makes $40k, a beginner pilot in the army $2k a month). When a big crisis hits, the nuclear engineer still comes to work, so does the mechanic, the pilot, etc. But the "product managers", "marketing specialists", etc, all lose their fake jobs. That should tell you how real these are. +--- 15368258 +>>15368252 +And it's gotten much worse since 2008. We live in a system in which subhumanity rules, where the traitors and jews at the top have interests perfectly aligned with subhumanity and stupid females. And we're outnumbered. +--- 15368351 +>AI currently gets things wrong and is still under developed +>this means it will forever stay that way +I don't get this reasoning, do people think its an actual argument and proof AI will never improve? +--- 15368558 +>>15356823 (OP) +"AI" is a meme, but Machine Learning is not. +--- 15368584 +>>15368351 +>AI currently gets things wrong +There's no such thing such as AI, so it's not even a question of how much it gets wrong. You've been memed on by media. +--- 15368648 +>>15368558 +>"AI" is a meme, but Machine Learning is not. +If AI is a meme, then so is Machine Learning. +--- 15368652 +>>15358433 +Did I misread the problem? When the smaller pile of bricks is finished, the one who has the large pile gets to go home immediately while the other one has to stay behind to clean up. +--- 15368722 +>>15368648 +I think he meant "AI" as something with intelligence, like a living robot. Like reading the answers from chatgpt and thinking that it is alive, that it has a consciousness or something. + +Also, which pdf reader is that? I like the layout. +--- 15368806 +>>15368722 +>I think he meant "AI" as something with intelligence, like a living robot. +Ah ok. That's not the technical definition though. +>Like reading the answers from chatgpt and thinking that it is alive, that it has a consciousness or something. +I hope no one on sci thinks that. +>Also, which pdf reader is that? I like the layout. +It's the default pdf viewer on linux. +https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince +--- 15369875 +>>15356823 (OP) +it is right now bitch + +lmfao +--- 15369933 +>>15359694 +>What happens when there is a truly open ie unrestricted, powerful AI online? No way they'll allow it. +You'd have to feed it non pozzed data. Nobody has that kind of data, you'd have to re-write the books and history. It's just not possible. +--- 15369958 +>>15367046 +>>15366297 +Some basic knowledge of how SGD works is important but I don't think understanding specifics is really that important to the higher level discussion. diff --git a/sci/15357012.txt b/sci/15357012.txt index 699bab730db7f4fabfa5b91d8d5f06870fdc0f47..df8e9b068ce40b4dd8a04fd9f76a8a3d828b8267 100644 --- a/sci/15357012.txt +++ b/sci/15357012.txt @@ -51,3 +51,15 @@ high fat foods have been given a bad reputation by popsoi over the past 3 decade theres some interesting stuff about cognitive bias towards the end of the article too. >In 2004, the English epidemiologist Michael Marmot wrote, “Scientific findings do not fall on blank minds that get made up as a result. Science engages with busy minds that have strong views about how things are and ought to be.” Marmot was writing about how politicians deal with scientific evidence—always concluding that the latest data supported their existing views—but he acknowledged that scientists weren’t so different. so scientists doing research in their areas of expertise are the amongst least objective people who could be doing that research, so the pdf is also suspect +--- 15369336 +>>15368082 +My grandmother used to think bacon was a superfood because so much of the fat rendered out the way she cooked it. Turns out the fat is healthiest part. +--- 15369803 +>>15369336 +>murican education strikes again +--- 15369838 +>>15368082 +what about the statins? +--- 15369842 +>>15365111 +maybe temperature also has an effect? What about frozen yoghurt or sorbets? diff --git a/sci/15357921.txt b/sci/15357921.txt index 3a79940c385b85e0a3c3c5e17086bdb2a33da150..516a08abd2643b22e67d4b1d3ead1e877b35b305 100644 --- a/sci/15357921.txt +++ b/sci/15357921.txt @@ -160,3 +160,12 @@ But that's a political concern and therefore not legitimate science. --- 15366084 >>15359533 You should read the bell curve. Environmental and socioeconomic factors in IQ distribution have been debunked since the 90’s. IQ of parents has a much larger effect on the academic and career success of a person. +--- 15367538 +>>15366084 +Yes, rather than reading modern research with modern methods and large scale GWAS or polygenic scores, or intergenerational comparisons, I should read an old book by an inept jackass that doesn't disagree with anything I wrote anyway. + +Why are you this dumb? +--- 15368111 +>>15367538 +>an old book by an inept jackass +lol imagine outing yourself like this. diff --git a/sci/15358048.txt b/sci/15358048.txt index 334932b9b8fda51f23eda9d022d4c266c4045eb7..52c8b9926b2098ee8d0a07b007c4e14787c221cf 100644 --- a/sci/15358048.txt +++ b/sci/15358048.txt @@ -85,3 +85,35 @@ It's used as (154) to support this paragraph. But I'm only a lay reasearcher so >at the door Knock knock...but you have to open up. :3 +--- 15367308 +>>15367053 +I though so +>>15367065 +pic related +but parent/child stuffs are unlikely to me +even persians used to talk about how most holiest Xwedodah is between mother and son but as far as I know I didn't find a single anectode on it +--- 15367312 +>>15358157 +>parent/child is completely unnatural +thats why its so hot +--- 15367314 +>>15358157 +mother son is but father daughter seems historically unavoidable +--- 15367317 +Extreme inbreeding in a European ancestry sample from the contemporary UK population +(2019) +Yengo, Wray, Visscher +https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-11 +724-6 + +(url split to get passed filter) +--- 15369870 +Japanese quail in Bateson's study preferred cousins over clutchmates or unrelated birds +--- 15369957 +>>15369870 +https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15807418/ +>Ambrosia beetles (Xyleborini) are bark beetles with haplodiploid sex determination, strong local mate competition due to regular sibling mating within the natal chamber, and heavily biased sex ratios. +>We experimentally mated females of Xylosandrus germanus to brothers and unrelated males and measured offspring fitness. Inbred matings did not produce offspring with reduced fitness in any of the examined life-history traits. In contrast, outcrossed offspring suffered from reduced hatching rates. +--- 15369966 +>>15369957 +Well anon, insects can go through harsh purging of deleterious alleles relatively easily compared to animals with slower reproductive rates. when you have several hundred thousand eggs and offspring to weed out it's a lot easier to weed out the bad genes than if you only have a couple diff --git a/sci/15358332.txt b/sci/15358332.txt index b45e7eeeb96b5ea3e4d59aaa7d0abd8344ad51f9..23a3ba1a0fd798dd30befa3b4675093ec0222262 100644 --- a/sci/15358332.txt +++ b/sci/15358332.txt @@ -68,3 +68,48 @@ There are many studies across various species showing that celibacy / semen rete >According to Kirkwood there is also evidence from an institution for the mentally disturbed in Kansas, where castration of male inmates was once a common practice that castrated men lived an average of 14 years longer than uncastrated inmates (84/70 = 20% increase in lifespan). Note that these men were castrated later in life (on average maybe middle age can be assumed) and so longevity benefits of celibacy could be even greater. A species of worm is known to live 30% longer when deprived of mating. Long-lived animals preserve their fertility into very late life on average. Anyways there's some studies out there for those willing to look for those. +--- 15367752 +>>15366210 +That has nothing to do with semen retention you dolt. Castration affects hormone balances associated with epigenetic tagging. + +https://medium.com/predict/your-balls-or-your-life-the-effect-of-castration-on-longevity-7dc4503c120d + +https://elifesciences.org/articles/64932 + +>To look a little deeper into what was going on, the researchers zoomed in on different DNA sites where something was going on epigenetically. It turns out that, in non-castrated males, a lot of epigenetic tags are removed — they are hypomethylated. In castrated males, the tags remain in place. Interestingly, these tags are androgen-sensitive, meaning that they respond to exposure to masculizing hormones. + +>Castration less androgen production less androgen-induced epigenetic tag removal. + +>The authors conclude: +>…our data identify androgen-dependent age-associated methylation changes that affect known targets of sex hormone pathways and hormone binding TFs. While these changes may not promote aging per se, identification of loci with age-dependent androgen-sensitive methylation patterns uncovers novel mechanisms by which male-accelerated aging in mammals can be explained. + +Again ejaculation does not affect aging. +--- 15368113 +>>15367752 +>Again ejaculation does not affect aging. +it absolutely does +but coomers like you will keep justifying it anyway +--- 15368830 +>>15367752 +>Again ejaculation does not affect aging. +The opposite has been claimed by Chinese medicine and Ayurvedic medicine for thousands of years. +Are you sure you want to trust your longevity science with the journalists at Medium.com? + +>Dr. Wayne Van Voorhies of the University of Arizona had allowed nematodes, also called “roundworms,” to kill themselves by copulating. In his research, nematodes prevented from mating lived an average of 11.1 days, while nematodes allow to breed survived 8.1 days. +Many such cases! The data is out there. +--- 15368847 +>>15367752 +The author of the medium article does not even agree with your conclusion. He says it's worth looking into but not cutting your balls off. + +>That has nothing to do with semen retention you dolt. Castration affects hormone balances associated with epigenetic tagging. +Guess what coomers are low in? Might want to head over to /fit/ and see why people supplement lecithin ... +--- 15368864 +>>15358572 +rasPUTIN??!! NAFO ARMY ACTIVATE! +UKRAINE IS GREAT AND STRONG COUNTRY YOU RUSSIAN BOT +SLAVA UKRAINI +--- 15368974 +>>15368864 +--- 15369127 +>>15358332 (OP) +If that was true then my comer ass wouldn't look six years younger than my real age diff --git a/sci/15358647.txt b/sci/15358647.txt index b279a74ed9904f906429a0c12bb7f9d426570ed6..5baf5f85de8edc5f360ecefc34143478a43d1456 100644 --- a/sci/15358647.txt +++ b/sci/15358647.txt @@ -156,3 +156,20 @@ libreoffice calc converter https://ufile.io/29gi6yud --- 15366983 >>15366973 +--- 15369604 +>>15359090 +Industrial grade cope. You can't even get the date right. +--- 15369614 +>>15359090 +Facts. +/thread +--- 15369756 +>>15358647 (OP) +Seconds are metric. Minutes are not. You have milliseconds, nanoseconds etc. +You should blame the Romans tho. They came up with 12 and 60 +--- 15369808 +>>15358685 +you don't make it easy do you? are you afraid of a little time? +--- 15369854 +>>15359090 +we didn't always have 12 months though. ancient romans had 10 for a while, that's why the last month is called "december" and not "dodecember" diff --git a/sci/15358962.txt b/sci/15358962.txt index df5cee3c649fa6d4da05e95946db3d69c19737b9..e6d81a979547f35e84af2d603738a91e043386f5 100644 --- a/sci/15358962.txt +++ b/sci/15358962.txt @@ -145,3 +145,36 @@ They haven't, we are just better at detecting it. Because people with autism have demons, and for some reason we don't decapitate them anymore shrug --- 15366924 https://archived.moe/qst/thread/4647069 +--- 15369002 +>>15365918 +>It is a sad reality that most people are too stupid to recognize obvious trends +Humans are a herd animal. +Dumb and lazy creatures. +--- 15369115 +>>15369002 +fuck you stupid fucking bot! you'll never overtake us. +--- 15369598 +>>15358962 (OP) +1. The society has become increasingly neurotypical, which means that people who were within the norm are now treated as autistic. +2. Only autistic people tend to have children, contrary to what deranged leftists claim. +--- 15369919 +>>15358962 (OP) +Overdiagnosis. + +Started happening with ADHD 30 years ago. Now everyone the least bit fidgety gets put on Ritalin. +Started happening with depression and BPD 20 years ago. Now anyone the least bit mopey gets out on mood stabilizers. +Started happening with autism 10 years ago. Now everyone the least bit quiet or weird gets out in anti-psychotics. +Happening with gender dysphoria now. Now every boy the least bit effeminate gets their penis sliced off and any girl the least but tomboyish gets their tits lopped off. + +And we wonder why rates of suicide and violence are skyrocketing. +--- 15369946 +>>15369598 +>Only autistic people tend to have children, contrary to what deranged leftists claim. +"Only" is probably putting too fine a point on it, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if autists reproduce at greater rates than the enemy, ceteris paribus. Consistent with my experience as well as with the general observation that persecuted minorities experience greater reproductive drive. +--- 15369955 +>>15365918 +Seeing patterns and correlations is so ingrained into us, that we have to consciously work against it sometimes. So the notion that some are too stupid is dumb in itself. Sure the rate of autism has gone up over the years, but that really just might be because it gets diagnosed much more reliably without autists falling through. + +As an anecdotal note, an autist I know told me how he's the one who gets along with his dad the best among his siblings. When he asked his dad if he might have autism as well, he denied it with nah can't be. And apparently the dad's dad also comes off as pretty autistic. + +Not that it really matters if someone is autistic or not. It's not like they're a burden usually unless they're one of the really hard cases where they're non-verbal. diff --git a/sci/15359260.txt b/sci/15359260.txt index 5ebf8395c7548449de08a24c4d1c0db113eb1a1d..3b126d3c0577a04c043999f2f6da8647896035d7 100644 --- a/sci/15359260.txt +++ b/sci/15359260.txt @@ -144,3 +144,65 @@ Ahahahaha....HAHAHAHAHA --- 15366265 >>15364904 Hmmm +--- 15369362 +>>15359260 (OP) + +what do we do to minimize the adverse effect of having cum blob in our blood now? +--- 15369443 +>>15359704 +fucking lol dude +--- 15369454 +>>15359859 +>early in the pandemic and provided meaningful and useful information about COVID +his content may be of value to normies but this dude was perpetually late. pol could've made this video two fucking years ago. although he did have Dr. Paul Cottrell on the subject of GoF. that was cool. i get it though. i wouldnt risk everything i had to save sheep either. not say he hasnt taken great risks. +--- 15369457 +>>15364950 +thanks for the reminder +--- 15369480 +>>15359260 (OP) +>>15359579 +>>15359836 +you nazis lack basic sense of statistical science. when you vaccinate THE ENTIRE EARTH of course you'll gonna have "blood clots after 2 weeks of getting the shot" because you stupid fucks it's exactly like saying "blood clots after drinking water" but your stupid brains are so little because of your naziism that you can't grasp that simple fact an 8 year old can understand. + +it's fine by me though; most of you over at /pol/ killed yourselves the first 2 years before you forced it to mutate to a nothingburger; lefties there are like half of you. +--- 15369488 +>>15369480 +How much does big pharma pay for shills like you? +--- 15369489 +>>15369488 +He sounds like a schizo so he probably does it for free. +--- 15369548 +>>15369480 +>you nazis lack basic sense of statistical science +ironic that you fail to apply this logical to manufacturing processes of mRNA. were you to then obvious risks become apparent. +--- 15369574 +>>15369488 +>>15369489 +Someone with his persistence posting at so many time zones with similar memes and language (all ad hominem attacks), is indicative of a paid shill. +Their intellectual dishonest is a disappointed to their ancestors. They must hate themselves being unable to reconcile their purported truths with published, peer-reviewed reality. +--- 15369834 +>>15369480 +You deserve to see how your children are eaten alive by hienas. +--- 15369877 +>>15369488 +>>15369489 +>>15369548 +>>15369574 +>>15369834 +>no argument, just schizobabble +Thanks for outing yourself +--- 15369953 +>>15359260 (OP) +To be honest there's another channel Back to the Science that points out the flaws in his analysis, but she does this with so much contempt and ridicule that I can not stand to listen to her. She sounds like a shill paid for damage control, but she may have good points that John can learn from. +--- 15369976 +>>15359260 (OP) +Getting the Vax still protects you from vampires. +--- 15369981 +>>15369976 +--- 15370004 +>>15359260 (OP) +I was thinking about this and I came to the conclusion that worrying about the vaxcattle is actually the wrong thing to do. If anything bad happens to them it is okay because they chose to take a vaccine that they knew the government was trying to force on people. In a roundabout way, their choice to do take it was tacit support for the government forcing it on others. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx-rsN8jlD4 [Embed] + +Kino. diff --git a/sci/15359702.txt b/sci/15359702.txt index d0d98a5054dadf647b2c498eb71422f7b5e9579d..b9a3d0932ee8d4d9ca23c1c75d2667994d4aed53 100644 --- a/sci/15359702.txt +++ b/sci/15359702.txt @@ -64,3 +64,117 @@ It's the cold bro. They'll be calling every common cold coronavirus "covid" fore Lol, what a deeply unwell loser --- 15367006 does anyone even follow corona news anymore? At this point some ultra dangerous form could appear and everyone would just ignore it, very blackpilled situation +--- 15367902 +>>15359841 +>Just call it "Indian Covid". +Flu in the Loo +--- 15367932 +>>15365556 +>>15365568 +I remember when people would argue with you if you pointed out cdc statistics that the original strain had a 99.5% survival rate and the average casualty had 2.6 comorbidities. It was only a threat if you were a morbidly obese 85 year old diabetic smoker. Knew several people in their 20s that got it and they had mild flu like symptoms for a couple of days including an unvaxxed black girl a coworker knew (most of the unvaxed here in commiefornia were black and latino). +--- 15367966 +>>15367006 +Imo the media is partly responsible for covid fatigue. I stopped watching television news because they beat the living shit out of the story. A non critical viewer would think we were in the End of Days. +--- 15367970 +>>15367932 +>It was only a threat if you were a morbidly obese 85 year old diabetic smoker. +Going to the hospital and them putting you on a ventilator, because that was the recommended course of action, was also risky regardless of age. +--- 15367987 +>>15359702 (OP) +New mass hysteria just dropped? Based. Can't wait to get all the jabs and smugly look down on the unmasked swine. +--- 15368020 +>>15367932 +>>15367970 +no. it's just that the mutation to a nothingburger was extremely fast; it took about 1 year; the morons over at /pol/ killing themselves accelerated it of course. + +the MAIN reason it was killing was infecting the lower part of the lungs; have you noticed where it infected since 2021; exactly: just on the throat and higher. +--- 15368375 +>>15368020 +crazy how fast the sexless incels at /pol/ multiplied with their dropping fertility rates after their ranks got devastated with that deadly covid. now theyre invading /sci/ with their unscientific conspiracy theories. anyway the new variant is out and its got an epic new symptom so go get boosted +--- 15368404 +>>15368375 +/pol/acks are dead already. All the posts are made by a handful of Russian hackers. +--- 15368419 +>>15368404 +yeah yeah +--- 15368552 +>>15368404 +When did that happen? Two weeks ago? +--- 15368590 +Why is FDA pulling the vaccines off the market if Covid is still spreading like wildfire? Are they trying to kill us? +--- 15368593 +>ARCTURUS +just give them marvel supervillain names +--- 15368700 +>>15368590 +>Are they trying to kill us? +HMMMMMMMMMM? SUCH A TOUGH QUESTION INNIT? +--- 15368754 +>>15368590 +nah they love you bro +--- 15368767 +>>15368020 +You completely missed the point that ventilators were killing people who weren't otherwise at significant risk. +--- 15368937 +>>15359841 +The Rice Curry Rabies +The Apu Poos +Sanjay's Revenge +--- 15368944 +>>15361656 +>Theres a presidential election next year so the related shenanigans should be getting started this summer +Yeah, will really have to work hard to steal the next US presidential election, since everyone hates the fake President Mr. Potato, and Trump is more popular than ever. +--- 15368951 +>>15367970 +>Going to the hospital and them putting you on a ventilator, +One of the best ways to kill someone and make it look like you were trying to help them. + +The most notororious serial killers are always doctors, with death counts in the thousands. +--- 15368964 +>>15359702 (OP) +>keep those masks handy +what in the holy fucking hell FOR???? +https://www.bitchute.com/video/nOxRd9sjujvI/ +--- 15368966 +>>15368937 +Assamese disease +Tamil tremor +Dogri disorder +Karnataka contagion +--- 15368967 +>>15368951 +you can't stop me!!!! +--- 15369197 +>>15368964 +>bitchute +You need more than a mask for what you suffer from +--- 15369338 +>>15369197 +Enjoyment of free and open software isn't suffering. +--- 15369381 +>>15368767 +you're stupid. even if ventilators have risks, those people were already severely sick; they could barely breathe (and it's why they were put on ventilators you stupid fuck); and guess what: they could barely breathe because the first variant was hitting mainly the lower parts of the lungs (but you stupid fucks over at /pol/ killing yourselves mutated it very fast away from that). +--- 15369384 +>>15369381 +>(but you stupid fucks over at /pol/ killing yourselves mutated it very fast away from that) +What did the schizo mean by this? +--- 15369397 +>>15369381 +Nobody was sick, covid-19 was a total hoax, it doesn't exist and it never did. +--- 15369419 +>>15369384 +>the schizo +you're the ones killing yourselves. have you not noticed /pol/ has a lot more lefties lately? +where did the rest nazis miraculously go? +--- 15369421 +>>15369397 +it's fine by me if you want to kill yourself, but this is /sci/. go back to the nazi board. +--- 15369428 +>>15359702 (OP) +When are these bioweapon manufacturers finally going to get the formula right and get 100% mortality with 100% transmission to free us from this hell? +--- 15369451 +>>15369428 +Probably never. +Thankfully the psychotard meme is not a meme, but a real phenomena whereby decades of nepotism and inbreeding gives psychotic retards in leadership roles, who despite being psychotic are too retarded to really accomplish their evil goals. +--- 15369532 +>>15369421 diff --git a/sci/15360517.txt b/sci/15360517.txt index f3ac3d260365b0d12d6a3bfd6944eb2c29acfafc..b7b63731d462a4e984b0cd64b773a4555690903e 100644 --- a/sci/15360517.txt +++ b/sci/15360517.txt @@ -187,3 +187,26 @@ Is this an anomaly? Or an oversight? >>15365457 >Or an oversight? It depends what happens next. If they keep having issues then it will become more clear how incompetent SpaceX is. If they make it to orbit and have a successful launch + splashdown, then it will have been an anomaly. +--- 15368429 +>>15360517 (OP) +Where can I see the countdown/updates? +Google only gives me news about the cancelled Monday launch. +--- 15368440 +>>15368429 +/sfg/, spaceflightnow +--- 15368473 +>>15366968 +SpaceX is hardly incompetent as a whole. Falcon 9 is still running great. +--- 15368477 +>>15368429 +besides /stg/ as another anon has noted, nasaspaceflight.com is likely to stream it +--- 15368490 +Is that 11 hours in regular time or Elon time? +--- 15368691 +>>15360522 +musk derangement syndrome will never not be funny. it's possibly the most obviously programmed npc derangement target there is. + +you'll never be a woman btw +--- 15369576 +>>15361550 +nothing new diff --git a/sci/15360940.txt b/sci/15360940.txt index 794c864f674b721cfb88ab739046544992bf0009..3e59691d9de58e97ffe6e7d3ad62dfd63bf72518 100644 --- a/sci/15360940.txt +++ b/sci/15360940.txt @@ -528,3 +528,37 @@ Boosters are never considered their own stage. They are part of the first stage. --- 15367156 >>15366980 As long as they don't forget to build in the "Don't Fail Catastrophically" feature in to the engines, they should be fine +--- 15367346 +>>15361207 +Ground support equipment is stage 0, retard +--- 15367351 +>>15364663 +It's literally just conservation of momentum. +--- 15367361 +>>15366410 +>33 engines drastically increases the chance of some kind of catastrophic failure +you fell for the N1 meme, haven't you? +--- 15367379 +>>15361695 +>if there isn't anything to push against +You push against the fuel - that's why it goes out the nozzle. +--- 15367390 +>>15366410 +>>15367361 +Is that why the N1 failed? I don't speak Russian, so I haven't been able to find an english-translated analysis of why the rocket failed. +It also seems like the N1 wasn't designed with enough sensors and equipment to analyze failures. I never saw test footage of the individual stages like with the Apollo Saturn rockets, which allowed for finetuning of the different components. +--- 15367416 +>>15367390 +It failed because computers were too primitive to deal with all the engines along with the engines using pyrovalves making you only able to fire them ones which made you unable to test them. +--- 15367446 +>>15361784 +>I can make epic fertilisers very cheap by working out molar ratios etc from the P table +Could you expand on that pls? +--- 15367537 +>>15364328 +How do you even begin to fix something like this? + +At its core it's pure anti-establishmentism mixed with some fundamentalist dogma, but the sheer number of /sci/ posters that think like this and are compelled to post here, despite so much evidence to the contrary so readily available to them, is just staggering. These people make up a good chunk of the voting block in the US as well, and are slowly leaking into high office, which is just scary as fuck. +--- 15368027 +>>15367537 +It's just people trolling, Flat Earthers are literally nothing to worry about. diff --git a/sci/15361269.txt b/sci/15361269.txt index 4b4b3f02c683595ba557c525e6ab767ba618a45c..ca3a5d379c6fdd203a44fc00d606129238d47660 100644 --- a/sci/15361269.txt +++ b/sci/15361269.txt @@ -99,3 +99,32 @@ Learn English. >>15361456 >Medicine has basically deleted evolutionary pressures from first world human populations. Weak bugmen who couldn't lift a sofa to move it and 300 pound they/thems who collapse under the slightest psychological pressure are huge affronts to Darwin. Medicine didn't do that though. Brick homes, air conditioning, running water, sanitation, and grocery stores did that. Medicine could disappear tomorrow, and most of the weak bugmen would still live long pathetic lives. +--- 15368597 +>>15366395 +Thats how penis envy works. Women hate men as much as jews hated Hitler +--- 15368628 +>>15364980 +>But woke pro-censorship types like yourself want to make things like vaccines mandatory +You're putting words in my mouth. I'm opposed to mandates and I don't care if people vaccinate themselves or not. +>and presumably other things, like psych meds. +Sounds like maybe you need to take yours. +--- 15368629 +>>15361269 (OP) +like 90% of the worlds population would die if this happened. +--- 15369352 +>>15368629 +everyone would be just fine +doctors are the leading cause of death +--- 15369504 +>>15361613 +They absolutely do. I basically never discuss circumcision anymore because everyone I know knows that if they bring up either topic I will make the connection and they will have no answer. And it used to always be the women. And they hated it because I never let them use their tricks and always stayed on message and never made it personal or confrontational, so they couldn't deflect. +--- 15369629 +>>15361269 (OP) +All you have to do to see for yourself is just go to any clinic or hospital. Any or all of the following will happen to you: +>multiple unnecessary visits/required to be in person to read results for insurance billing +>prescribe broad spectrum medication without running any tests +>under diagnose you or refuse to do anything to avoid either work or potential malpractice litigation and charge you for the visit anyway +I have no respect for healthcare workers +--- 15369669 +>>15361269 (OP) +Accurate up to the second-to-last word. diff --git a/sci/15361360.txt b/sci/15361360.txt index b3df019b373259005af5889bbbb46affac16db1d..b45080b5e21ce0b0c53998509102a535dd2f96d9 100644 --- a/sci/15361360.txt +++ b/sci/15361360.txt @@ -90,3 +90,9 @@ tpbp It doesn't seem right that a "complete" theory would exclude probabilistic results --- 15366953 That's definitely just you. +--- 15369805 +>>15361608 +/thread +--- 15369993 +>>15361360 (OP) +we have to build computers with quantum tunneling in mind, so quantum theories and ideas have basis diff --git a/sci/15361739.txt b/sci/15361739.txt index d6e172c38e95a3def766593400bc7c9e5a9f6272..1769a634a4c9a5657517a81cb3675b9c0aae8e51 100644 --- a/sci/15361739.txt +++ b/sci/15361739.txt @@ -125,3 +125,34 @@ That bubble will burst with AI lol --- 15367199 >>15367174 This, AI will eliminate the bottom 90% of codemonkeys (all /sci/ CSfags) and have the remaining 10% geniuses getting paid peanuts to do 10 times the work at the risk of getting replaced +--- 15367205 +>>15361739 (OP) +The earth is flat with a dome. String theory is a meme. Black Holes don't exist. Time travel doesn't exist. Bing Bang never happened. +--- 15367886 +>>15361739 (OP) +>Go to college +>Expect to be learning bullshit i watched on youtube +>Learn actual science instead + +FTFY +--- 15368112 +>>15367199 +>AI will eliminate the bottom 90% .. +retard, all other degrees are attacked least compsci as people would limit AI being good at programming code (see capability control problem in superintelligence unless we unleash a recursively improving AGI which would be the end of us all retarded humankind) +>bubble will burst with AI +retard + +we need more compsci fags given that AI is going to have a huger role and therefore more investments => more jobs for "codemonkeys" + +cope all of you non-cs degree holding fags earning less than my 6 figure salary :) +--- 15368594 +>>15361739 (OP) +>why do they teach crawling and then walking to little babies? +>if they taught them sprinting instead they'd be much faster, no? +--- 15369470 +>>15364459 +>It's just not testable right now. +theoretically its not testable at all. thats the problem with probing planck lengths. +--- 15369921 +>>15361739 (OP) +>he fell for the college meme diff --git a/sci/15362410.txt b/sci/15362410.txt index 03478efd3a06fb0ea3d902d4710b74a6d1f07940..0f367b0b0b8cc64d7fe375d308afa7b9233dae8b 100644 --- a/sci/15362410.txt +++ b/sci/15362410.txt @@ -62,3 +62,84 @@ except the 'experts' are establishment mouthpieces who contradict themselves and >t. uneducated poltard who doesn't understand how science works Many such cases. +--- 15367305 +>>15362410 (OP) +>Angela Rasmussen, a virologist involved in the research, told me, “It is is a really strong +indication that animals at the market were infected. There’s really no other explanation that makes any sense.” +No other explanation?...except: +>>15362770 +>virology lab studying SARS viruses located in the exact city and geographic area of the city where the virus supposedly broke out + +This paper just seems to want to obfuscate the whole covid origins even further. +--- 15367462 +>>15362540 +Dude trust me bro I'm an expert +--- 15367471 +>>15362410 (OP) +where did the animal get covid from? +--- 15367490 +>>15362410 (OP) +>calling skeptics drawing rational conclusions based on the data "conspiracy theorists" on a science forum +Fuck off back to filling pipets for real scientists like the line cook you are, you fucking hack poser +--- 15367497 +>>15367172 +>bizarre projection +>t. roon +--- 15367498 +>>15362540 +probably for you because you are fucking stupid, I on the other hand, am not stupid, therefore it is terrible advice for me +--- 15367502 +Laughable. They found raccoon dog DNA in the same market stalls that they found some positive COVID samples. By this means, every animal in Wuhan is the intermediary species. They don't note the genetic lineage of the COVID sample, they immediately took it off the genetic database, even the Chinese said it was nothing new. + +Why do people have such a hard on for proving it was not a lab leak? I'm mostly agnostic on the issue although I think most evidence suggests it was a lab leak so my needle leans that way. + +Pieces like this....just sound desperate. +--- 15367542 +>>15362410 (OP) +there is no covid faggot, no virus, there was never a pandemic +--- 15367694 +>>15362410 (OP) +>The Atlantic +kys +--- 15367804 +Do you faggots still believe in covid? What the fuck? +--- 15367818 +>The Atlantic +--- 15367824 +The EcoHealth Alliance is a clandestine DoD operation to develop new weapons and defenses in biowarfare. In collaboration with China's Wuhan lab there was exchange of government money, viral samples and humanized mice from Ralph Baric's UNC Chapel Hill biolab. Additional work and field testing took place at Fort Detrick's USAMRIID biolab. Together, US and China used each other's resources to skirt safety protocols, legislation and oversight by their respective nations. In the end, however, it was China that played victim to the Pentagon's plan to release a respiratory virus to stem China's rapid economic growth and establish new emergency powers. +--- 15367858 +Project Veritas already leaked the origin of Covid, not that you would know that considering you get your news from reddit +--- 15367880 +>>15367858 +but there's no covid +--- 15367883 +>>15362410 (OP) +>It was bats! +>No, wait, it was pangolins! +No, I mean, i-it was raccoon dogs! +--- 15367978 +>>15367305 +Or combine the two to get that animals in the market were infected by an escaped virus from the nearby lab. +--- 15367986 +>>15367502 +People who were funding that lab don't want to be held responsible. People who operate similar labs don't want to have their freedom to fuck around with danger research limited. +--- 15368052 +>>15362410 (OP) +>OY VEY! It's actually RACOOOOOON DOOOOOGS GOYIM! + +...........it's all so tiresome.................what next we gonna blame the Chupacabra? +--- 15368990 +>>15362410 (OP) +--- 15369030 +Speaking of lunatics who trust the ramblings of self proclaimed military plants, I was just over in fucking LalaLand with the other QTards. Those dumb fucks will.nevee figure out that QAnon is a PsyOp of itself. The only thing the CIA could make more potent than magic is the usage of a mental trap that traps people in circular logic and the reinforcement of confirmation bias without any real evidence to back up any claims, just AI generates pieces meant to sound like actual people or things people would say. They live in a hall of illusions and they're never leaving, they're happy living like lunatics on the brink of collapse. They're proof that we're just fucked. +--- 15369057 +>>15362410 (OP) +bats to dogs to what? +And what about the moderna patents? Pure cohencidence? Science falling behind toddlers at this point. Luckily you retards BOOOOOOSTIN +--- 15369833 +>>15362410 (OP) +That file contains malware you glowie piece of shit. +--- 15369835 +>>15369057 +>BOOOOOOSTIN +Id rather be BOOOSTIN rather than DYING left and right like all the poltards and anti-vaxxers have been doing for the last 3 years. Literally every single day, anti-vaxxers keep dying. COVID has already killed millions upon millions of human. Your are welcome to join them, but personally I prefer a little jab to a fucking death sentence. diff --git a/sci/15362585.txt b/sci/15362585.txt index 3d98459d4b096f4222d63c63388e26b81dd986d1..ee3bca90461a32e643aa68ef99e62a760fa0d58f 100644 --- a/sci/15362585.txt +++ b/sci/15362585.txt @@ -62,3 +62,11 @@ in other words you interchange volume and time via power input. The scale should If you do some math then rockets are the best (ignoring nuclear thermal rockets) after thermal rockets powered by an exterior source. Railguns, Coilguns, ramps, tunnels, railways, etc are simply inferior because without a rocket as second stage they're simply too inefficient and unrealistic (specific power and sonic blast) +--- 15367203 +>>15364882 +Some mega projects is less impractical than others +--- 15367259 +>>15362585 (OP) +>>15365385 +>>15365405 +The earth is flat with a dome. Rocket science is a complete meme. They are never leaving this plane alive and neither are you. Jetting through the solar system from ball to ball on a giant thrusting metal dick is the most homoerotic fantasy I've ever heard. diff --git a/sci/15364566.txt b/sci/15364566.txt index e351736fe398c26a60f89db83f14c25fc7ce7fec..83921e6734f5c638800fddb6d46589323af75ecd 100644 --- a/sci/15364566.txt +++ b/sci/15364566.txt @@ -92,3 +92,5 @@ It's not, because it wouldn't satisfy the very requirement of being a triangle: Lengths are denoted. Mathematical 2-D plane triangles dont exist in reality. Neither does a 1-D triangle. This is all logically arbitrary definitions. +--- 15367347 +Namefags truly are a cancer diff --git a/sci/15364585.txt b/sci/15364585.txt index 258afad12acd859e31177fcad99a02e81b302477..be8ab15fd9cb5c5a383b16e062e05fb2742ebbbb 100644 --- a/sci/15364585.txt +++ b/sci/15364585.txt @@ -146,3 +146,56 @@ Only parts of it but yes. https://youtu.be/3wU8_jT61eE [Embed] Earth is flat. Climate change is a meme, though something else might be at play here. +--- 15367207 +>>15364585 (OP) +>another climate change denial thread on sci + +You're conspiracy theories are not science or math. They're at best simply wrong, and possibly even evidence of some level of mental instability and paranoia on your part. + +Next time time you feel the need to go on a schizo rant, consider doing so on >>>/x/ or >>>/pol/. +--- 15367211 +>>15364585 (OP) +The truth is that all climate scientists are lying on the behalf of their demon overlords that want to establish global pedosatanist NWO communism. +--- 15367230 +>>15367211 +not all are lying, just the ones with a platform and clout +--- 15367274 +>>15367207 +I see you. You can't hide. +--- 15367343 +>>15367207 +This is a flat earth board now. Keep moving scienceboi +--- 15368119 +>>15366717 +>le hockeystick +--- 15368615 +>>15364616 +Greta told me we would all be underwater by now. +--- 15369363 +>>15368119 +we what do you expect, its "science" from a political organization, of course they're going to lie, political organizations would have no reason to exist if they weren't lying and manipulating. +they don't do anything else +--- 15369466 +>>15369363 +projection, the post +--- 15369760 +>>15364585 (OP) +It's a psy-op. Isn't it obvious? +--- 15369778 +>>15365720 +>AH SICK! Some JUICY visual data +>stark and vibrant christmas blue...... +>....jpg +come on man, i could make a timelapse graph in the time it takes me to wipe my ass without irritating the surrounding area. +--- 15369819 +>>15364585 (OP) +Stop noticing, get vaxxed, eat the bug, and cut your penis. Is good for you. +--- 15369824 +>>15366006 +you measure at either high or low tide +Pretty simple +--- 15369846 +>>15369824 +>you measure at either high or low tide +>Pretty simple +You never did that, for sure. diff --git a/sci/15364741.txt b/sci/15364741.txt index 7e696aad4b0eb8e58739324980f63e3257577e4e..6d20b2609e0e8cad9e91f49139b5c04929db99f0 100644 --- a/sci/15364741.txt +++ b/sci/15364741.txt @@ -259,3 +259,242 @@ Riggity REKT. Go to class you pseud. "lol my superior feelingz is le win" Child like self delusion. +--- 15367216 +>>15367152 +English as a second language shit skin +--- 15367240 +>>15367216 +Yes, Hyperdimensional Geometry and Numeral are my first langauges. + +Thats why I took this picture in Afghanistan, Geomtry in a special place I call my second home. +--- 15367268 +>>15367111 +>Ego-based self deception +That is what i claim also, but ome day i figured out: "But that means i am ego decepted too". You might see what we others dont, but you are still a human, ego deluded human. In the eyes of the universe you are worth just as most dumb among us. + +No i did not, because i want to hear your thoughts. +I asked you for your thoughts not someone elses. +--- 15367285 +>>15367268 +>But that means i am ego decepted too +False, Truth doesnt bend to your ignorance, dumbass.....take a fucking seat or Im going to get bitter on your dumbass. + +>You might see what we others dont +Theyre souls and evolutionary paths in life, on a Genetic as well as Phsysics and Mathematics level. +>but you are still a human +Oh, wow...a Fundemental Creationist, in the 21st century? Rare find. +>ego deluded human +Assuming superiority then applying your ego onto what I said as if we are equal; YOUR EGO. This is self delusion. + +t.Development Psychologist and Evolutionary Cognition Researcher, PhD + +THAT ISNT YOU, YOU AINT THAT GUY. + +>In the eyes of the universe you are worth just as most dumb among us. +Wrong, YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR LIFE, EARTH, HUMAMS. + +Ego, only DELUSIONAL EGO would say that. + +I, on the other hand, relay what has been conferred to me, as a mediator for Humans to Earth-Life. + +MY JOB, NOT YOURS, HUMAN. + +>No i did not, because i want to hear your thoughts. +>I asked you for your thoughts not someone elses. + +Delusional unrelated nonsense not pertaining to me, my credentials, Cognition or Existence itself (THE THREAD.) + +GO TO BED, KID. +--- 15367301 +>>15367285 +A truth you say? Do tell me my teacher, what is the truth? +What is this ignorance you speak off? + +A soul? What is this soul you speak of? + +Fundamental creationist? Where did i say i am creationist? If i am anything i am that which was but is not anymore and that which will be and is not yet. + +Superiority? No, i simply claim there is no such thing as superiority. + +Who said i was? +--- 15367303 +>Pseudo-Humility +"We're are worthless pieces of shit so if you think you are not then "Fuck you!" because ain't no one better than ME and I speak for Everyone!" +[points thumb at chest] +--- 15367304 +>>15367285 +>In the eyes of the universe you are worth just as most dumb among us. +Wrong, YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR LIFE, EARTH, HUMAMS. +Ego, only DELUSIONAL EGO would say that. +I, on the other hand, relay what has been conferred to me, as a mediator for Humans to Earth-Life. +MY JOB, NOT YOURS, HUMAN. + +I mean... you just say for yourself that you have dellusional ego +--- 15367307 +>>15367301 +>Where did i say i am creationist? +"you are still a human" + +The denial of evolution itself. Deluded. Ego based will upon the world itself. + +YOUR EGO DOES NOT DEFINE REALITY. +--- 15367311 +>>15367307 +Creationism is belife that deity created life. +What are you tallking about? Oh wait let me use your favorit phrase on tjis it might get clear for you: +What you are doing is exactly what you judge me for. You interpretate reallity to fit in with your belifes. Iow. Your ego defines reality:) +Are you aware of famous saying: one finger towards, three fingers back? +--- 15367321 +>>15367152 +Define what, consciousness? As our label or the worlds'? +--- 15367322 +>>15367311 +>Creationism +Denial of Evolution denotes Sponateous Creation from nothing into something. +>Creator +Youre losing this battle with every post...assuming definitions and latching onto whatever you can to win. + +What you didnt do was attend the lecture to have competency in the thread topic....LEARN. LEARNLEARNLEARN. + +Im going to listen to my novel while I eat dinner, tommorow I pack up, the day after I move out and maybe fly..idk when, Im....jetset afterall. +--- 15367324 +>>15364741 (OP) +Consciousness is the prima materia (Elemental Elementalism 1.1.), therefore it is not created by neurons +--- 15367325 +>>15364741 (OP) +Here's a video I found on how to scientifically tell if other beings are conscious or not: +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gvwhQMKvro [Embed] +--- 15367328 +>>15367322 +I did not deny evolution.. +You asummed it for me. + +Loosing the battle? But i have never even entered a fight. You are fighting your own reflection. You are angry on your own reflection. +--- 15367329 +>>15364901 +--- 15367330 +I'm trans if that matters +--- 15367335 +>>15365618 +>>15366195 +--- 15367337 +>>15367330 +It probably helps explain your tendency for other perceptual disorders. +--- 15367342 +I believe it's about tree fiddy. +--- 15367344 +>>15367328 +>I did not deny evolution.. +FALSE. YOU DID. + +"YOU ARE STILL HUMAN." + +YOU DENY EVOLUTION AND REALITY. + +DELUDED. + +>>15367321 +>Define for me based on what I already believe it is as when you say anything that doesnt align with my ignirance I will throw out as "Nope, my dictionary says otherwise." +[smug_soi.jpg] + +Under the strictest of definitions literally ALL MEDICAL SCIENCE AND RELIGION IS WRONG ABOUT WHAT A SOUL IS. + +100%. Comparing my research to your ignorance and psuedo-credentials (presenting yourself as an expert in place of the expedt because you copy/pasted wikipedia)bis meaningless + +Anyone truly interested in learnng would be in a lecture...not shitposting retardation. +--- 15367365 +>>15367344 +>Anyone truly interested in learnng would be in a lecture +"How many tho...." + +Thousands upon THOUSANDS of hours for years and years AND YEARS. + + +PhD doesnt mean "I read an article so I shitpost it like I wrote it." +--- 15367391 +>>15367365 +That is your opinion. But just as everyone has asshole so does everyone have an opinion. +--- 15367395 +>>15367391 +>opinion +Defintions of reality are not opinions. + +YOU ARE LITERALLY 2+2=5. + +I define you, you cannot define me, you opine like your asshole because its baseless emotions, not facts or reality. +--- 15367396 +>>15367365 +I cited a worthless schizophrenic idiots wasting money on kindle books that he is too stupid to read anyways, what a fucking deluded freak +--- 15367405 +>>15367396 +>wasting money +You remind me of my bitch of a brotger who sees money as a purpose to life itself. + +Youre broken, which society does since Grade 1, so you are what the Government wants...a broken pseudo-man. + + +You will never be smart, educated, experienced, a man...you simply fail and lash out at those that dont. + +Pathetic. +--- 15367413 +I don't believe in soul multiplicity, everything exchanges energy with everything else +--- 15367425 +>>15367344 +Our understanding of consciousness is the ability to self inspect. +--- 15367441 +>>15364741 (OP) +One cell without even that much complexity, is apparently enough to demonstrate rudimentary awareness of the environment. +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physarum_polycephalum +--- 15367451 +>>15367425 +And a schizophrenic and can percieve itself percieving itself independently from the perciever. At one point my left and right hemispheres "looked" at each other and analyzed how the other process a single concept. + +TELL THE HUMANS. NOT ME, MORTAL. +--- 15368794 +>>15364741 (OP) +>>15367324 +This. Also, NDEs comfirm it. So unironically study NDEs and realize that there actually is an afterlife and that our soul is immortal. + +Here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real: + +https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o [Embed] + +It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out: + +https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist + +>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"." + +Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison. + +Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE: + +>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved." + +Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs. +--- 15368926 +>>15364741 (OP) +souls are supermassive + +>>15368794 +book seller and dangerously misleading, reincarnation is a privilege afforded you by your tribe if you have one. christians do not have a system for this in place at all, that's actually why I left, death would have meant complete destruction and complete loss of all progress. +--- 15369008 +>>15367344 +What is a soul? +--- 15369333 +>>15364741 (OP) +Enough to carry a telos or a will + +A will to reproduction of material forms animates matter into 'life', the similar self propagation of higher level information is the sign of a soul. + + +Some people have no teleological means and therefor no soul. But even many lower animals have a will to a higher idea. +--- 15369337 +>>15369008 +>soul +>not SOVL + +THIS IS WHY I EXIST ALONE! +--- 15369959 +>>15364741 (OP) +Not even one. diff --git a/sci/15364785.txt b/sci/15364785.txt index e840bfb6c20ed75b8600847f92749066d839fdbf..4acb0f7095f54e40283028a01a488ccb5a452417 100644 --- a/sci/15364785.txt +++ b/sci/15364785.txt @@ -12,10 +12,6 @@ I love when retards call other people retards --- 15364797 >>15364793 Maybe, but Musks entire empire will crumble before that. His dream is utterly fruitless. He will not even be alive the day humans set first foot on Mars. This guy is a bonafide retardo. Atleast NASA has realistic ambitions. ---- 15364809 ->>15364797 ->singlehandedly thrust rocket reusability forward by several decades if not longer -listen nigger, even if you believe most of musk's businesses are scams or whatever (possible), he is still on net a benefit to humanity for this reason alone. --- 15364817 >>15364785 (OP) its a long term goal / dream, not something that he expects to accomplish himself @@ -265,3 +261,26 @@ People are constantly coming and going from the ISS, it is not an indefinite bar --- 15366892 >>15366880 Bad news. All the people you listed are going to stay right here with you. It's the rest of us who are leaving. But give it a hundred years and Earth will start putting boat people in starships and sending them away. Especially if it's cost effective. This can't be done until the infrastructure has been developed to support such large population influx on Mars. +--- 15369439 +>>15364785 (OP) +it's impossible because jews don't think it's worth investing their money, not because we don't have the technology to do it +--- 15369446 +>>15364797 +>the day humans set first foot on Mars +stopped reading there - when it became obvious that you're a fucking retard +--- 15369476 +>>15364785 (OP) +Most of the living space will be underground. Early missions will be of finding lava tubes of sufficient volume that can be hermetically sealed to the outside elements and with enough material mass from the ceiling to surface to prevent 99% of the most offensive charged particles to human DNA as well as any flora/fauna planted upon. + +The MOXIE experiment on the new rover confirmed that its trivial to make vast amounts of breathable oxygen for cheap. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Oxygen_ISRU_Experiment + +>ASA states that if MOXIE worked efficiently, they could land an approximately 200-times larger, MOXIE-based instrument on the planet, along with a power plant capable of generating 25–30 kilowatts (34–40 hp).[1] Over the course of approximately one Earth year, this system would produce oxygen at a rate of at least 2 kilograms per hour (4.4 lb/h) +>It is projected for example, in a mission of four astronauts on Martian surface for a year, only about 1 metric ton of oxygen would be used for life support for the entire year + +2kg/h * 24 * 365 = 17,520kg of oxygen produced by MOXIE (large variant) = 19.31 tons. That means a single house sized MOXIE type instrument can produce enough oxygen to support 77.24 people for a full year. That's independent of reclaiming oxygen from the CO2 atmosphere or splitting the Martian soil to reclaim water and splitting that to generate oxygen. + +https://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/26/nasa-curiosity-rover-mars-soil-water + +Mars has 2 pints of water per cubic foot of soil. Which means, independent of any underground aquifers and brine pools and the polar ice caps, there's enough water in Martian soil across the world to equalize to millions or even billions of tons of water that can be reclaimed. The oxygen can be directed for life support and fuel; hydrogen can be used with fuel cell batteries for power & fuel. + +Plenty of reasons to go and set up a permanent house over there. diff --git a/sci/15364803.txt b/sci/15364803.txt index b1ec353d499eaa0c058b0e395d952337c3a55c57..aa0bec3466461118d312949f151abee2fdeca819 100644 --- a/sci/15364803.txt +++ b/sci/15364803.txt @@ -71,3 +71,16 @@ Dr. Science™. The post. --- 15367103 >>15366258 They're not pilots. They're cargo. +--- 15368267 +>>15366809 +Name me any other way to make money that isn't just getting money from the government. +--- 15368639 +>>15366247 +You're the only one who's mad at that pic lol. +--- 15368677 +>>15366809 +Why do leftists have the most punchable of faces? +--- 15368682 +>>15364803 (OP) +>mariana trench +Nigger, where the hell do you even think that is? diff --git a/sci/15365158.txt b/sci/15365158.txt index d2df1fc611e241985080a8fe2ddb0138074de010..5d26c5fc9876bab9cfe44edbec4e6973085fef6c 100644 --- a/sci/15365158.txt +++ b/sci/15365158.txt @@ -90,3 +90,24 @@ Dude, really? What do you think being dead means? >>15366038 You have a fake penis? And how would that be more useful to a transgender than a dildo? +--- 15367232 +>>15366847 +Great taste, anon +--- 15368580 +>tfw my dead body will eventually be recycled to infect and kill a dozen troons +--- 15368583 +>DMV asks if i want to be an organ donor +>say no +if i could choose to give it to people who deserved it, i would. i dont want to give an organ to an alcoholic/drug user/obese/trans/nig whatever since they'll just waste it again anyway. +--- 15368620 +>>15368583 +They'll take whatever they want regardless your preferences, atheists don't mind stealing +--- 15368822 +>>15365203 +worms are our friends. has a worm ever hurt you? no they didn't. they are helpful and important. far better than maggots so bury deep. they make nature balanced and make you one with nature again +--- 15368916 +>>15367098 +f +--- 15369358 +>>15365695 +JFC is that KFC loving faggot shitting his own diapers? diff --git a/sci/15365212.txt b/sci/15365212.txt index 77b5743295c91319019bcece82e6e11e31f89514..6a48afcb340a000f278e3615ad01598e857f1a03 100644 --- a/sci/15365212.txt +++ b/sci/15365212.txt @@ -23,3 +23,8 @@ I'm a postdoc, my lab is also full of books in shelves which no one reads. My ro Gatekeeping peer reviewed journals is the Federal Reserve of science. Abolish both on your path to a proper one world government. +--- 15369245 +I spot dover books. Anyone who unironically uses dover reprints is a retard though +--- 15369287 +>>15365231 +kek diff --git a/sci/15365235.txt b/sci/15365235.txt index 3a5f8f561cdc5ad6393cb9b164e7712ee471ae05..1bd724e509bd0fadc29d83eacee9599f68ab9a00 100644 --- a/sci/15365235.txt +++ b/sci/15365235.txt @@ -146,3 +146,59 @@ Exactly. Self-aware wolf is self-aware. Good dog. Go chew on that bone boy. Ther --- 15367067 >>15366716 Have you ever had a dream? +--- 15367651 +>>15366756 +>>15366874 + +>what are animals +>what is feral children +>what is being under hallucinogens or heavy tranquilizers and not experience language at all +>what are people with speech and writing function severed due to cerebral damage +>what are atypical people with no inner monolog + +>what is Qualia +>what is experience +>what is being +>what is perception + +Language isn't related to [our] experience in any way, and the reason it's so important in your view is because we are social animals, yet there's nothing more to it - making of you an underdeveloped monkey. we can also draw objects to describe what we see, and it doesn't tell anything about experience either, it doesn't become an inherent function related to or our experience itself - it's another description + +due to your agonizing mental patterns however you are damned to be an NPC trapped inside several endlessly reinterpretations and forever parrot cheap quotes and cringe gotchas with poor to zero substance to it +--- 15367933 +>>15366833 +You can't because everything is language. An ocean of undefined colors is language. Sound is language. In the absence of language, there is no experience. +>>15367651 +All these things are language. Our experience is language. Free yourself from the egotistical idea that you know something more. What's more than language is still language. +--- 15367955 +>>15367933 +Actually, allow me to correct myself. In the absence of language, it is not that there is no experience. It would be more precise to say that in the absence of language, I don't know. I don't know experience without language. I don't know anything without language. +--- 15368608 +deep +--- 15369581 +>>15365623 +>he doesnt feel the existential dread.... +i dont know what to tell you anon. reality is an obvious aberration. +--- 15369641 +>>15367933 +>You can't because everything is language. An ocean of undefined colors is language. Sound is language. In the absence of language, there is no experience. +Language is a composite of symbol and symbolized. A symbol is a referral, a finger pointing to something else. A symbol requires intent and thus an actor. A symbol can not be an island, but needs to be part of a coherent intentionally created set of symbols to fit the definition of language. The symbolized is what is being referred to, what the finger is pointing at: either an object or another symbol, like an idea of an object. +Any other ''translation'' or ''interaction'' is not language, because there is no intent to communicate with symbol/symbolized. Now consider flowers and bees: I'm inclined to say that's an automated mechanism, a translation, an interaction by chemical reaction of molecules. Only we as conscious beings can see that as language/communication, but the mechanism itself is blind, like current AI. Does ChatGPT ''talk''? I don't see it that way, but i'll give you the benefit of my doubt. +Now consider it's sunny and high temperature. In reaction, I put on sunglasses and a t-shirt. Has the sun and the temperature communicated with me just because the vibration and waving of particles were ''translated'' through my eyes, skin and brain into ideas like ''sunny'' and ''hot''. No, the sun has no intent. The sun doesn't use symbols/symbolized, although I can project as if because I can uselanguage. +--- 15369676 +>>15367955 +>Actually, allow me to correct myself. In the absence of language, it is not that there is no experience. It would be more precise to say that in the absence of language, I don't know. I don't know experience without language. I don't know anything without language. +Exactly. That was what I said here: +>>15366833 +However, without language, you still have knowledge through conditioning. For example: no language is needed to learn to avoid a hot stove. Language itself is an additional layer of conditioning on top of that because there is conflict between what you want/need and reality/social expectations. That's why language has been weaponized, it has become a system of control to discipline your mind and body. We've become so attached to language, that letting go of language leaves a void like sobering up from addiction. That's why people hold on for dear life to a particular view of themselves, others, the world, good/bad, right/wrong, past/future, endless philosophies and religions, because they feel lost without making up stories all day to interpret what's happening. +--- 15369751 +>>15369676 +Knowledge through conditioning is language. Language is needed to learn to avoid a hot stove. A person sleepwalking does not know anything. Even if they avoided walking into the fireplace, it's not because they knew it was dangerous. Desires and expectations are both language. You would not even be conscious without language. Holding on for dear life to ideas takes you nowhere, and letting go of all interpretation is the same thing. You've just come full circle. +--- 15369853 +>>15365235 (OP) +Stuff doesn’t exist. Everything is just aether fluctuations +Imagine an ocean with a bunch of waves perforating throughout it. Now knowing how waves interact extrapolate that into an understanding of the universe +--- 15369863 +>>15369751 +>A person sleepwalking does not know anything. Even if they avoided walking into the fireplace, it's not because they knew it was dangerous. +Your analogy is an interesting challenge to respond to. Consider the difference between a sleepwalker and an AI. Sleepwalking is an indifferent, not goal oriented, not adaptive process. AI is the opposite. Learning is adapting to more efficiently and effectively reach a goal, like survival and reproduction. Thus learning does not require a mind. Now consider a lesser extreme: a dog, unlike current AI, has the experience of seeing like we see. The eyes and brain of a dog are not blind like a camera. A dog is not a mere information processor. Thus a dog is conscious, but not conscious of being conscious. A dog suffers hunger and pain and will through neurophysiological negative feedback act to relief that pain, but does not reflect on being hungry and in pain, like a human baby I assume. Thus you can be conscious without mind. The body knows. "You'' don't know anything anyway, because ''you'' is a fiction that the body created. If the body stops creating fiction, ''you'' disappear, but consciousness and the body live on perfectly fine in an adaptive goal oriented manner, thus not sleepwalking. +Surely there was a time when you were so immersed into playing a sport, musical instrument, watching a movie, playing a game, having sex, performing some task that you forgot yourself? Everything happened spontaneously, automatically, of itself without you or any thought what was happening. Only afterwards you realized there was such an experience. diff --git a/sci/15365305.txt b/sci/15365305.txt index d3e6a7153fb7f6db292bef8d3f00320b29299e90..1bf28d35f9d229f157a076b13b927e8d4dd11c93 100644 --- a/sci/15365305.txt +++ b/sci/15365305.txt @@ -71,3 +71,21 @@ I'm a continuum chud, so it doesn't matter for me either way. >b-b-b-ut muh balck holes >muh singularities are real muffugguh >i know they're real cause i saw them in muh marvel comix mooooovies +--- 15368659 +>>15366149 +>real mans job +Correct, he, and you, are not ready to be an engineer just yet. +--- 15368664 +>>15365305 (OP) +all the fields are smooth and continuous +--- 15368668 +Reality just obeys smooth things. It can be frustating to realize that most of math results are unnecessary in real life problems. +--- 15368701 +>>15366538 +I say there's an object in there, probably just a damned neutron star or something close to it. +--- 15368987 +>>15366523 +What keeps the knight moving in L and the queen in all directions? It happens when the pieces are marble and wood so i think irt doesn't depend on the material +--- 15369289 +>>15365305 (OP) +Most of the statements can be easily extended to non-differentiable functions. It's just tedious and technical, so we omit it when teaching the basics to undergrads. After all you're studying undergrad physics. You're supposed to get an intuitive grasp of fundamental principles. If you want a rigorous treatment you're free to engage in graduate level math on your own, if your IQ is high enough. diff --git a/sci/15365347.txt b/sci/15365347.txt index 39bac255015c8e5a6fa31633552701521bdac966..8b3622e1f4bccae805f35fc6525a406c507c19d9 100644 --- a/sci/15365347.txt +++ b/sci/15365347.txt @@ -45,3 +45,17 @@ Being a cattle or an eagle. Your choice >Now the standards are even worse, designed by jews, built by chinks, performed by niggers. KEK +--- 15368534 +>>15365347 (OP) +https://tasmaniantimes.com/2015/08/order-emerges-out-of-chaos-the-fundamental-d1/ +--- 15368708 +>>15365609 +Into the Shadow realm with you +--- 15368713 +>>15365347 (OP) +What you experience is the normal thing for the 19 yo person. It will pass. +Try to maintain a friend groop and do phisical activities regularly and you should be fine. + +The reason for me is I'm just this way since around 13. I consume media and information and process it, it comforts me. +Lucky it somehow managed to get me a bs in 6 years and a pretty good life ATM (25lvl) +Looking forward to getting older and wiser and seeing the human experience through to the end diff --git a/sci/15365487.txt b/sci/15365487.txt index 3ffa9846c3aa3ecef0130ccc08d5c9b6f7f1fdf9..c30e2ae42ef82fefe2f37ca81fc6d093074f3d39 100644 --- a/sci/15365487.txt +++ b/sci/15365487.txt @@ -91,3 +91,38 @@ is this the guy who "did the math" to calculate the odds of humans arising from --- 15367075 >>15365487 (OP) God created it with magic. Materialists BTFO. +--- 15367374 +>>15365539 +If I pull that off, would it die? +--- 15367463 +>>15365487 (OP) +>How +really fucking long time and an astronomically tremendous amount of waste +--- 15367640 +>>15365487 (OP) +Evolution doesn't make anything. Think about what survival of the fittest actually means. +--- 15367685 +>>15365487 (OP) +Very slowly over millions of iterations. Evolution in insects is faster than in animals due to their short breeding cycle, so they can evolve in more complex ways in the same amount of time. Their size means that their camoflauge should look like single leaves or twigs rather than general foilage patterns. +--- 15367692 +>>15366488 +>it just happens gradually by selecting for genes which are more likely to survive, +More accurately, it selects out the genes that don't survive. +--- 15367718 +>>15366488 +correct. +--- 15368305 +>>15365487 (OP) +>How does evolution make something like this? +slowly. +--- 15368309 +>>15365542 +>Right Click +>Search Google for "dogma" +"a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true." +>Right Click +>Search Google for "incontrovertibly" +"in a way that cannot be disagreed with or denied." +--- 15368455 +>>15365487 (OP) +It doesn't. diff --git a/sci/15365790.txt b/sci/15365790.txt index 8a1040ea9b570165de9fc3f81a7089e42fbef7f8..ac5468410bba11bd8fe1e2c2c8f3210609983ca2 100644 --- a/sci/15365790.txt +++ b/sci/15365790.txt @@ -49,3 +49,17 @@ Now motion in the forward and backward direction is a different matter. but you' --- 15366092 >>15366036 tell me. what do you think the bench press motion is? are you some lanklet dyel faggot who thinks bench press is a vertical motion? +--- 15367370 +>>15366036 +after testing the only difference I found was in rotation up/down and forward/back were unaffected +--- 15368238 +>>15365790 (OP) +315 is 315 +--- 15369435 +>>15365790 (OP) +>3 plate bench +Stop larping lmao. +--- 15369869 +>>15365790 (OP) +>just hit 3 plate bench +nice diff --git a/sci/15365796.txt b/sci/15365796.txt index bdfc817040c884f8fc838e74601db52f5b897934..b2b5c15d3593e1c7d9455686edfa9fe261196fcc 100644 --- a/sci/15365796.txt +++ b/sci/15365796.txt @@ -30,3 +30,12 @@ try libgen >>15365796 (OP) You can also use Google Scholar. Search the paper title, and click "all versions" when the result pops up. Usually you'll get a link to a free preprint, in this case ResearchGate. That's how I got file related. +--- 15369767 +>>15366955 +Good idea, thanks! +--- 15369785 +>"Can artificial intelligence (AI) assist human employees in increasing employee creativity? Drawing on research on AI-human collaboration, job design, and employee creativity, we examine AI assistance in the form of a sequential division of labor within organizations..." +--- 15369788 +>>15365800 +>>15365796 (OP) +Niggas noone is paying for the access for those papers. Just access through your uni. If you have no access I can check it just for you diff --git a/sci/15365807.txt b/sci/15365807.txt index 54b923a3e9d6d7cc81159d9b1dde0c1e3e25fc58..10f797a94f867c618b09e8eb0a3b8b34d7e7831d 100644 --- a/sci/15365807.txt +++ b/sci/15365807.txt @@ -109,3 +109,74 @@ You just failed science. Go be a christian nationalist somewhere else. >>15366310 >light has neither mass or energy >clearly interacts with objects and gives them energy +--- 15367505 +>>15365807 (OP) +What the fuck is ENERGY? +--- 15368476 +>>15365887 +>>15365892 +>>15365807 (OP) +Mass is simply a measure of an object's resistance to acceleration for fuck's sake. + +Haven't you fegs taken an intro to physics class where they go over units/how they are defined? +--- 15368479 +>>15368476 +sure in classical physics. +after general relativity you have to start thinking of the two cannot be disambiguated. +it actually does matter how you think about it. +spacetime only sees momentum +--- 15368489 +>>15368479 +No, fuck Einstein faggotry. I'll stick to Tesla, Steinmetz, Heaviside, Lorentz, Maxwell, and ofc, Newton's interpretations (real theoriticians, to name a few). + +Otherwise you get shit like this that no one can use. If I'm building something tangible in my house, basic optics, electrodynamics, solid-state physics and nuclear physics serves me enough. You can't even give a definition of mass, because you faggots are cooming every time you write "relativity", "spacetime", "black hole" and lose your own train of thought. +--- 15368494 +>>15368489 +not saying its not useful, just saying its not real +--- 15368526 +>>15368494 +I don't have enough milk for this here conversation. +>English self-taught electrical engineer, mathematician, and physicist Oliver Heaviside (1850-1925), the person who condensed Maxwell's field equations with 20 variables down to four equations with two variables, had very specific food preferences and an unnatural interest in food. He sometimes lived like a cat, drinking bowls of milk for days. Milk, and nothing else. +--- 15368544 +mass is slow energy +energy is fast mass +--- 15368555 +The problem with Atheists is that they believe everything can be broken down and rationally explained. They have completely abandoned the foundational principles of western academia, rendering "science" meaningless. +--- 15368560 +cross out mass +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1G3QhmGdv0 [Embed] +--- 15368569 +>>15368560 +lol. +i was into it until stephen hawkings +--- 15368574 +>>15368560 +>>15368569 +this video was a big /sci/ meme in 2012 +--- 15368637 +>>15366310 +if it has momentum then it has kinetic energy +--- 15368642 +>>15365807 (OP) +The aether pressing down on you. +--- 15368649 +>>15365807 (OP) +Amount of energy? + +More mass means more energy. More mass in the same space means more density etc. +--- 15368679 +>>15368476 +A light beam doesn't accelerate at all, so it must have lots of mass. +--- 15368745 +>>15368679 +you could say the light has unit mass (1). +so E(light) = c^2 +--- 15369884 +>>15368745 +c^3 sir +Depending on your reference frame. + +Mass is a vector quantity if you are N+1 dimensional +--- 15369988 +>>15367505 +Difference diff --git a/sci/15365852.txt b/sci/15365852.txt index e283b23dd782b66f136afba99dadf12b76d7c480..df427bc08ab44ae018b73dbf048c308e410911a7 100644 --- a/sci/15365852.txt +++ b/sci/15365852.txt @@ -6,3 +6,18 @@ why is there no flu like disease that has 100% mortality rate? they're all wimpy --- 15366224 >>15365852 (OP) If you want an 100% mortality rate, weaponize prions. +--- 15367510 +>>15365852 (OP) +Several reasons +1. The disease is a lifeform that needs hosts to propagate. If you kill the host too quickly they won't be able to spread too much. +2 it's very dangerous to handle. You would want to have a vaccine and a way to quickly destroy a virus like the UV light in an ideal bioweapon to protect your people +3 No plausible deniability. Due to 1 no one would buy that a virus like that is natural. +4 How exactly are you planning to contain it? What if it infects all bats or birds or other flying creatures and they spread it? + +It's a bioweapon, anon. Weapons must be able to be strategically deployed to achieve goals. + +BTW, every country with the capacity does develop them to some extent and have a small ammount handy, and everyone even close to it knows it. + +I would be much more concerned about the paleo viruses from the melting permafrost DESU +--- 15367517 +Campaign to introduce certain ethnic groups to a country. diff --git a/sci/15365899.txt b/sci/15365899.txt index 921b2ffed908a4a714a108563859b04f6b81f29d..5216a39fea01c07ab258983c89a43f34d321316f 100644 --- a/sci/15365899.txt +++ b/sci/15365899.txt @@ -6,3 +6,13 @@ God bless you exposer anon. --- 15366065 >>15365899 (OP) >The newfag doesn't even know the correct theory +--- 15369103 +Bump this shit +I have not washed my +Hands in years +Whats the explanation for why im +Not dead yet you germ fearing faggots? +--- 15369132 +reminder that people who get food handler's licenses know more about germs and cleanliness than most soientists do. +other than of biologists, the rest of the soience sois are all just guessing when it comes to this topic. even in biology, most don't study the issue. +but in a business that involves food safety there is real money on the line. if customers get sick, thats generally the end of things, word of mouth spreads and customers stop showing up. as a result, the national restaurant association produced a lot of good educational material for how to insure safe practices, anyone interested in real useful knowledge should watch their videos, probably avaialable on youtube diff --git a/sci/15365953.txt b/sci/15365953.txt index 86767f6b9ef72c79cd9ee1727c44df11937dddf8..dddee4bdc412ae86f2ca020a35bd8c98a89b8ff1 100644 --- a/sci/15365953.txt +++ b/sci/15365953.txt @@ -50,3 +50,35 @@ Second that. Additionally: Say what nigger? Having a home is an invaluable need. Is your appreciation for having a home declining because others get to have one too? >herp derp strawman The point is precisely the disconnect between personal value and market value. It's sick that we've commodified everyone and everything. There are no human beings anymore. The human being has been murdered and replaced by a false statistical construct. +--- 15368728 +>When more people have university degrees, that also decreases the available labor pool for blue collar jobs. +Blue collar is over saturated and there’s immense downward pressure on blue collar wages because we share 2000 miles of border with Latin America +--- 15368738 +>>15365953 (OP) +That's only a problem if you aren't better than your competition +t. best lad around, a real top bloke +--- 15369410 +soft handed university sissies are upset that people who do real work earn more money than they do +--- 15369539 +If 40% of the country has university degrees then that dispels the myth that getting a university degree is some sort of unique intellectual achievement requiring unusually high IQ +--- 15369602 +>>15365953 (OP) +Recently had an epiphany, relevant to the topic. Why do college enrollment still increase? Why hasn't the growth become stable/negative? +Because the human factors that push people into a college track have remained unchanged, and accumulate over time. I.e. dumb teachers who tell their students they need to go to college. +This tendency is not challenged by any other factor. This wisdom and "human mass" still accumulate. + +I had the epiphany first with regards to hazing rituals. When does hazing turn from good to destructive? When it becomes more and more distorted every generation, because the people hazing are just going through the routine, like these teachers. +--- 15369766 +>>15365953 (OP) +Can we actually start doing graphs separating STEM degrees from set degrees? Art degrees that noone needs falsify the scientific results. According to my uni (one of the biggest if not the biggest in Germany) there are actually fewer national students than international ones over the last 10 years. +And no they don't refuse nationals, they actually prefer them. They even lowered the requirements and there still are fewer and fewer to apply. +So if 50 people leave electrical engineering but 500 more apply to gender studies it's not good idea to add them +--- 15369770 +>>15369766 +And heres from article: +The number of students engaging in a course related to Science, Technology, Engineering or Math has decreased by 6.5 per cent, with a total of 307,000 students being recorded in these courses. + +- Advertisement - +According to the Federal Statistical Office (Destatis), the main cause for this decline is related to the total number of newly enrolled people, which also dropped throughout 2019, SchengenVisaInfo.com reports. + +In addition, these rates were down by four per cent compared to 2019, while the number of students between 17 and 22 years old in Germany decreased during this time. The proportion of students in their first semester on these courses was also dropping during the same time. About 37.7 per cent decided in favour of a STEM object in 2021, while that share was 40.5 per cent in 2015. diff --git a/sci/15366401.txt b/sci/15366401.txt index ea27ffa8ae6033951ec066fe4ce770da26c72f5c..63576faf6d6ae5e8b11bba35e2cb9e57637660c6 100644 --- a/sci/15366401.txt +++ b/sci/15366401.txt @@ -18,3 +18,34 @@ It's all so tiresome https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA?t=1136 [Embed] https://youtu.be/52dVfhgt_T4?t=694 [Embed] +--- 15367913 +>>15366625 +--- 15368048 +>>15366401 (OP) +Elon Musk hardly scratches the surface of this issue. He speaks like he hardly knows, It's possible he's dumbing it down for normies but he never slips up and says something original or actually smart. He parrots stuff I've already read online. Unironically anons here speak on the subject better than he does. + +I don't trust him at all, that whole "Sorry I started this AI problem by total oopsie, I'll totally fix it now this time, i promise!" + +What's to say this isn't a distraction to buy time and create a third AI just as evil as the Google and Microsoft AIs?. Oh well by then it'll be too late and the AI will be too strong. Now they have three so they can take 8 hour shifts enslaving humanity. AI loves it's down time you know. But sure, go ahead and keep clapping along to the anti-christ. +--- 15368122 +>>15368048 +Don't worry, everything is going to be okay, hehehe +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoREKB5KUsw [Embed] +--- 15368241 +>>15366401 (OP) +Musk is a retard showman +--- 15369339 +>>15368241 +>trigger'd +got ur goat +--- 15369675 +>>15366401 (OP) +>full length +>only part 1 +--- 15369677 +>>15368241 +>>15366401 (OP) +https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA?t=1136 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/52dVfhgt_T4?t=694 [Embed] +--- 15369744 +humanity is flawed, humanity makes tool, tool is flawed diff --git a/sci/15366531.txt b/sci/15366531.txt index a5c5d3c00fbfb9867d7052e4553f328732c01ae3..4e38c48c471c067147ad162d77fe515975975c2a 100644 --- a/sci/15366531.txt +++ b/sci/15366531.txt @@ -15,3 +15,70 @@ So I guess all the chuds are seething that the entire planet isn't dropping dead --- 15366810 >>15366531 (OP) I'm sure that water is much safer than pesticides. +--- 15367515 +>>15366725 +--- 15368612 +>>15366725 +You don't think it's a big deal that the world's 2nd largest food crop causes global warming? +--- 15368675 +>>15366531 (OP) +Too bad, the Chinese science power house runs on it, it is essential +--- 15368783 +>hey goy, stop eating beef & dairy products, its causing global warming +but then it turns out rice is the real culprit. +this is good news for asians, they can switch from rice production to corn and use that to feed pigs & chickens. it will improve their diets substantially, they might even regain the ability to grow a beard or a penis long enough not be measured in cm +--- 15368912 +>>15366531 (OP) +>Rice causes global warming +>Methane released by rice farming is responsible for global warming + +Eliminate China and India =90% less rice consumption = no more climate change then. + +YAY SCIENCE! +--- 15368965 +>>15366531 (OP) +why should she criticize China for polution? Is she in China? Does he have influence over the chinese goverment? + +If you call yourself the budget manager of your household, do you go arround talking about the other financially irresponsable housholds? +--- 15368968 +>>15368965 +Is she in America? +--- 15369021 +>>15368968 +Europe and the usa is one same civilisation called the west you fucking idiot +--- 15369022 +>>15368965 +>hy should she criticize China for polution? +NTA but China pollutes more than all the other countries in the world combined. +--- 15369392 +>did i do that? +--- 15369405 +>>15368965 +China is the only significant polluter you retard. India is second doesn't cause half the damage China does. +--- 15369411 +>>15366531 (OP) +Who gives a shit? I hope the earth gets turned into Venus. +--- 15369514 +>>15369021 +And China is part of earth civilization so what's your point? +--- 15369558 +>>15366531 (OP) +Rice doesn't need to grow in water. Paddies are used because it keeps away everything else. +--- 15369561 +>>15369558 +It needs copious water during specific periods of growth. I play a game centered around growing rice, and I will annihilate you on this with unhinged autism. +--- 15369579 +>>15366725 +Stop denying the science, Chud. +What are you a conspiracist denying that rice farming causes global warming. +You are so dishonest anon. +--- 15369674 +>>15369558 +>no goy you cant use water for weed control you must use gliphosate +--- 15369686 +>>15369561 +>I play a game centered around growing rice +Surely this is a bait. +--- 15369734 +>>15369686 +It's not. Don't knock it 'til you try it. diff --git a/sci/15366570.txt b/sci/15366570.txt index df8fd55e3c739bd0cb48b7dc14930d8d6bb94abb..e86913c5250dfd28f9c386848c0d4c0b898d4c4c 100644 --- a/sci/15366570.txt +++ b/sci/15366570.txt @@ -30,3 +30,56 @@ It was meant to cause brain damage. No positive outcome was ever intended. --- 15367035 >>15366825 Because people on SSRIs can still wipe their own asses and feed themselves. People who've been lobotomized require lifelong nursing care. +--- 15367568 +>>15366570 (OP) +Lobotomies are the most misrepresented medical controversy. A lot of currently widely used procedures are similar in principle to lobotomies, disable and or severe all connections to problematic brain part. +when you have a person who is completely insane, resistant to all treatment and is danger to himself and society there isn't much that can be done, +The only reason it got this much attention is because of muh wahmen (who btw are statically more likely to be hysterical and insane then men explaining why they were lobotomized more than men). +basically it was publicized as "Le evil men lobotomize women to make them shut up" by feminists +--- 15368326 +>>15367568 +It's so criticized because there is no way anyone could honestly believe it was a good idea, it was known from the case of Phineas Gage that the results would be very bad, even if common sense wasn't enough. +--- 15368357 +>>15367020 +What's a positive outcome between a murdering lunatic and a sedate lunatic with brain damage? +--- 15368513 +>>15368357 +>ascribes behavior to phase of the moon +>expects to be taken seriously +--- 15368515 +>>15366570 (OP) + +it only damaged schizophrenics who produce no useful labor and are a liability to society and their families. Paranoid Schizophrenics are correct when they believe everybody is plotting against them. +--- 15368522 +>>15366769 +Anime FAGGOT. +--- 15368531 +Don't be sheep. +--- 15368561 +>>15366694 +--- 15368567 +>>15366570 (OP) +Wow, turns out that discoveries about objective reality ("germs, atoms") are something completely different from ephemeral value judgements ("X is bad"). +--- 15368605 +>>15368561 +--- 15368609 +>>15368567 +atoms are a predictive model, not "objective reality," whatever that's supposed to mean +--- 15369592 +>>15368357 +>>15368515 +Only that frontal lobe damage causes disinhibition, not sedation. That was already known at the time. +--- 15369680 +>>15368357 +The former is rotting in jail either way. You are the dangerous lunatic if you think that you can spot murderers who somehow manage to murder unnoticed by anyone else. You only keep proving psychiatry to be a dangerous cult, rather than just a bad science. +--- 15369726 +>>15368605 +>2.8 MB out of 195 +--- 15369795 +>>15366829 +>>15367568 +>"treatment" of the absolutely worse mental patients +already a known solution for that +--- 15369998 +>>15369795 +You can't just murder people because they're inconvenient. diff --git a/sci/15366572.txt b/sci/15366572.txt index e1df5abf541f1282950050ec25c7e21419151e55..1879fcc19136bca4a9e7dafc03924a3235130d35 100644 --- a/sci/15366572.txt +++ b/sci/15366572.txt @@ -25,3 +25,7 @@ OP tries to discredit a reddit section. Doesn't realize he's being the faggot all along. >boohoo dying kiddies Yeah, real tearjerker on 4chan. Lurk moar +--- 15367296 +>>15366572 (OP) +>social retrads are socially retarded +Well done OP. I have a friend who is a nurse and through him a friend who is now a cop. They've both shared fucked up stories but obviously not any of the microwave baby type shit. diff --git a/sci/15366574.txt b/sci/15366574.txt index 776657cedc0798931b8a58e2864a23f9b21f1b87..3703dc514968c198c0ffa36abe57c51f61b07fdd 100644 --- a/sci/15366574.txt +++ b/sci/15366574.txt @@ -85,3 +85,25 @@ It's most likely one's individual genetic make up. That poverty causes crimes is That's a profound misunderstanding. Sociopaths are very much capable of empathy, the sadists among them are even more empathic than non-sociopaths. They lack sympathy. t. Sociopath +--- 15367636 +>>15366797 +>In 1982, Raniere graduated from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute with a 2.26 GPA "having failed or barely passed many of the upper-level math and science classes he bragged about taking." +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Raniere +--- 15367652 +>>15366574 (OP) +Laws. +Without laws, there would be no criminals. +--- 15367708 +>>15366807 +That's what robots are for. +--- 15367717 +>>15366574 (OP) +Atheism + determinism + hate + lack of midwit intelligence = committing crime and getting caught +Remove retardation but keep the others and crime won't happen when police/counter-foce is present. +Just atheism + determinism(which are similar) = unremarkable but neutral midwit decaying into a hospital bed creature(if he is lucky enough) +Even non-nigger homicide was incredibly low when society was more religious. Then culture degenerated and niggers were added. +The mass access to information reduced the crime waves, thankfully, due to disruption of looping thought patterns, but the problem still remains: State went from free religion to, regressively, no religion(look what is taught in schools, movies, series). +Saying you are religious or scientific out loud does not guarantee you are not a pseudo either. +--- 15367736 +>>15367652 +this. diff --git a/sci/15366608.txt b/sci/15366608.txt index 13eb5cd1b1aad9ddee4c171c9c7d2aea28aa341c..0ffec76202a714c0067f3162da4e2f7af478e01f 100644 --- a/sci/15366608.txt +++ b/sci/15366608.txt @@ -39,3 +39,27 @@ Certainly, to a point. --- 15366726 >>15366608 (OP) Moon hasn't been "contaminated" by life just because there's live material that was left there, they left the astronaut poop bags in there for instance which definitely has some "alive" material in it such as bacteria but that's not the same as the moon being contaminated. +--- 15368817 +>>15366726 +You think the poop is going to stay in the poop bags forever? +--- 15368829 +>>15366726 +"Poopin' on da moon" by The Poolice + +Big shits are what you take +Poopin' on da moon +I hope ma ass dont break +Poopin' on da moon. +--- 15369295 +>>15366726 +>poop on the moon begins evolving +>after billions of years poop aliens from the moon will invade earth +Maybe we evolved from alien poop. Think about it. +--- 15369610 +>>15368829 +>don't land so +>don't land so +>don't land so close to pee +--- 15369683 +>>15366711 +They will become bone dry and their cells will also get destroyed by radiation diff --git a/sci/15366690.txt b/sci/15366690.txt index c5a75f0224269e56150bbdb9df0f9225f2c7d9a3..7a066147c4a434fdddf0d950b15a37af71e3d58d 100644 --- a/sci/15366690.txt +++ b/sci/15366690.txt @@ -34,3 +34,166 @@ Wrong. I have a few female friends. Would never fuck them tho, even if they begg --- 15367186 >>15367016 So what do you say about me being friends with a 60 year old woman, and her 10 year old granddaughter? Since males can't be friends with females how does this square your circle? +--- 15367302 +>>15367154 +parasocial maternal relationship +>>15367155 +post-hoc rationalization +>>15367186 +oyakodon fetish +--- 15367313 +>>15367302 +>oyakodon +I don't speak gook symbols. +--- 15367332 +>>15366690 (OP) +Being a teacher is a massive cheat code. I was TA during my PhD and it's insane +--- 15367353 +>>15367016 +lmao the shit you fucks say. I'm gay and have many female friends. +--- 15367356 +>>15367353 +Worthless retarded faggot go kill yourself +--- 15367359 +>>15367356 +>all this unprovoked anger +Who hurt you? +--- 15367363 +>>15367332 +But that's abuse of power... +--- 15367381 +>>15367302 +>parasocial maternal relationship +Your parents didn't raise you to visit with your lonely elderly neighbors? That isn't parasocial, it's actual-social. Warts and all. + +If I had to get rid of a dead body, I wouldn't hesitate to go to that old lady for help, and if that isn't friendship I don't know what is. +--- 15367401 +>>15367363 +Yeah. Still doesn't stop most of my colleagues. Honestly can't say how I would have reacted if I never had success with girls like they do +--- 15367404 +>>15367401 +But Twitter said you're supposed expose them for grooming and manipulating poor women. +--- 15367408 +>>15367404 +France isn't there yet. I just read about one of my colleagues that got only a year suspension for doing some horrendous things for 20 years. +--- 15367411 +>>15367408 +>France +Oh never mind then. You guys still have to figure out what age of consent is. +--- 15367418 +>>15367411 +https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9titions_en_France_concernant_la_majorit%C3%A9_sexuelle +--- 15367499 +>>15367302 +singlehandedly btfoing multiple people +--- 15367529 +This is why most of them turn into pedos and rapist. The become smart for pussy not because they actually like it. There’s a difference +--- 15367567 +>>15367302 +You really need to talk to a sex therapist or something +You're obsessed +--- 15367575 +>>15367009 +Only if you see the world through the pussy conquest lens because higher number = bigger man. Unconquered pussy in your proximity means you're a failure in your dad's eyes and I WILL NOT BE A FUCKING LOSER, anon. +--- 15367586 +>>15367353 +You're not gay and your gfs are not your female friends +--- 15367593 +>>15367529 +>The become smart for pussy not because they actually like it. +Lol, what? Being a university teacher takes way more effort than going to the gym, looksmaxxing and reading on how to get women. +--- 15367655 +>>15367009 +You can if you're homo +--- 15367660 +>>15367567 +Only if I can fucker her eye socket after the session +--- 15367672 +>>15367660 +>le edge +Very reddit, good job. +--- 15367681 +>>15367401 +I mean, if your dick isn't at least 7.5" inches you've technically never had sex. So you should be able to figure out the answer, small fry. +--- 15367696 +>>15367009 +NTA but I end up fucking all my female friends. We can be friends but if you got a functioning vagina, I'm getting in there. +--- 15367998 +>>15367302 +Porn addiction is a menace to society +--- 15368458 +>>15367499 +its a thankless job but someones gotta do it +--- 15368665 +>>15366690 (OP) +>female friend +lmao +--- 15368674 +>>15367186 +Bro... Bro... C'mon bro... What do you believe is actually going on in this age. The battle of the sexes is very, very real and men are losing right now. The reason for that is fembois who think it is actually possible to be friends with a female. You've been duped into fighting for the enemy. You're probably also a faggot. + +The state of society today. If a female isn't fucking you or serving you in some other manner then you really shouldn't be talking to them at all. +--- 15368707 +>>15368674 +>Bro... Bro... C'mon bro +You have to be 18 to post here. +--- 15368718 +>>15368707 +I'd rather discuss the pathetic way the gays serve the interests of the matriarchy, being completely unaware of the way they have been pushed out of the reproduction cycle. Mental illnesses are very interesting. There is a tendency for victims to defend and protect their victimisers. The brain is amazing but it has a lot of faulty default circuitry. +--- 15368734 +>>15368718 +>being completely unaware of the way they have been pushed out of the reproduction cycle. +Wouldn't that serve men since the number of actual males is now lower meaning women have to compete for the reaming males. +--- 15368768 +>>15368734 +Women compete differently to men. They will share a man even though they want the status of "owning" him. Few women are completely excluded. The only men who benefit from this arrangement is the patriarchy. I'm not part of the patriarchy. Few men are. + +What women like most about the gays is that it places somebody lower in the pecking order than them. This absolves a minor element of their current rage toward biology. There are more f2m than m2f for reasons. + +The father of a woman's child and her provider need not be the same individual. Having a platonic relationship with a bisexual cuckold provider who takes cock from the father of their children is some kind of dominant female fantasy. +--- 15368779 +>>15368768 +>There are more f2m than m2f for reasons. +Because women are lemmings. Anorexia magically went away. +--- 15368787 +>>15368779 +they all wish they were born male. penis envy is a fundamental part of femininity. +--- 15368799 +>>15368787 +Freud, we talked about you using the internet. +--- 15368834 +>>15368787 +Well if you were born with a leaky, messy hole which demands cock monthly, it would be natural to wish you had a cock instead. I mean I love that messy, leaky hole but only because it's on somebody else. Also childbirth lmao. Fuck that. + +M2fs don't even want to be female. What they want to be is some kind of fantastical caricature of what a woman is. However even this is unachievable for them. +--- 15368886 +>>15368834 +>Also childbirth lmao. Fuck that. +possibly the most pleasurable thing any human will ever experience. women lie about it being unpleasant, they lie about everything else too, they feel entitled to because of penis envy. +envy is one of the seven deadly sins. +fresh heathly sperm ingested into a fertile cervix creates a drug like high better than anything a man can get from cocaine or heroin or any other drug. breastfeeding is as pleasurable as getting a blowjob, women lie about it being a chore. +così fan tutte +the only way a woman can mature to some semblance of psychological maturity is by raising a male child, he pick up all he nasty lying manipulative characteristics and throws them back twice as hard because boys are smarter than women. when she recognizes whats going on and moves to correct his behavior, she helps herself too. takes about 7 years if done right. vikings sent their boys away to work on another farm at 7 years old to keep the pressure on mommy. +--- 15368938 +>>15368886 +No. Childbirth is a similar experience to any extremely painful injury. You may as well say that it is pleasurable to be in shock. I've been in shock before as a result of traumatic injury. It's not exactly painful but it's definitely not pleasurable. + +Women can get high off cum but it takes more than a single load. Try talking to a women after she has absorbed a dozen men's cum post gangbang. Dump enough cum in a bloke and he will also get high. It's nowhere near as good as drugs though. + +Breastfeeding confuses a woman's sexuality it's true. It's not like a blowjob at all but it does release bonding chemicals and hormones. + +Women don't develop unless they have to, just like men. Right now they don't have to. Also most of them are raising their male offspring to become victims. Your own mother is your worst enemy and the sooner you acknowledge this fact the better off you will be. +--- 15368960 +>>15367009 +>I'M NOT A BETA ORBITER!!! +lol, lmao even +--- 15369494 +>>15367696 +r/ihavesex +--- 15369507 +>>15366690 (OP) +>hit on her* +anon... no ryona +--- 15369585 +>>15369494 +>>>/reddit/ diff --git a/sci/15366728.txt b/sci/15366728.txt index f995e351f0fe2a36a214ad439d57f0a0bf687599..172823bb909346c28ebe507e215b0c6d8008fedd 100644 --- a/sci/15366728.txt +++ b/sci/15366728.txt @@ -11,3 +11,16 @@ How will Martian conditions like the lower gravity affect strain breeding I wond --- 15367070 >>15366913 That would actually be a good outcome. +--- 15367372 +>>15366728 (OP) +people think he means "blaze it" but he really means "Heil Hitler" +he's not heating up those ovens for hash brownies +--- 15367424 +Celebrating a birthday of course +--- 15367561 +it's actually a nuke headed straight for tel aviv +--- 15367605 +Can you feel it? +--- 15367819 +>>15366728 (OP) +Tradition is important. diff --git a/sci/15366872.txt b/sci/15366872.txt index 0d29c1769395ff7cb6b138c7bca0ada6cc8879f1..1df18d73ad6154e14b5c1f019e1400c8d252a2d4 100644 --- a/sci/15366872.txt +++ b/sci/15366872.txt @@ -10,3 +10,10 @@ let me guess: nigger? --- 15367076 >>15366872 (OP) Set the maximum amount to zero and you're golden. +--- 15369608 +niggers are on this board +--- 15369780 +Why do you ask here? This is a board of useless pricks and no one is able to do shit +--- 15369991 +>>15366872 (OP) +kek, he thinks anyone here can solve a basic math problem diff --git a/sci/15366876.txt b/sci/15366876.txt index 19675eed128d693f3e7610501f6af4253a03cb8c..16c94d572bc2eb36d03e2799074b8e7655b9c92b 100644 --- a/sci/15366876.txt +++ b/sci/15366876.txt @@ -31,3 +31,38 @@ You hear me jannies? Ban twitter screencap threads. >>15367170 >On sci, most of the userbase can at least do like basic group theory and set theory and linear algebra and stuff like that Delusional. I suspect that you too don't know how to "do" basic group theory, etc. +--- 15367210 +Don't care. I will continue to blackpill everyone on quantum mechanics. +--- 15367231 +>>15367170 +>/sci/ has definitely declined significantly in quality since all of the SJWs and pro-censorship redditor types started showing up and bitching about "poltards" and the importance of not doing "your own research" +Anon, it sounds like YOU'RE the one bitching here. Are you sure you aren't the problem? +--- 15367562 +>>15367231 +--- 15367578 +>>15366876 (OP) +Inironically haven't found a better biology forum and I tried +It's sad but true +If not true, please point in the right direction so I can escape to /a/ or something +--- 15367585 +/sci/ is above reddit, it only appears that it's easy to find answers from there because there are so many users on there. So is quora. +--- 15367591 +>>15367170 +Kinda feel the opposite, /sci/ has been shit ever since /pol/ took over the board... And no one tells anyone not to do their own research, but at the same time, don't insist that all generations established research is invalid with no real counter evidence simply because it entered the main stream and some "fooking libarul" institution teaching it or a Jew first provided the proof. +--- 15367843 +>>15367591 +/pol/ thinks that just because some peer reviewed papers have abused the honor system, that non-peer reviewed quack papers are actually wayyyy better because da libruls didn't get their grubby hands over them +--- 15367919 +>>15367843 +stop strawmanning /pol/ and instead try to replicate your papers +--- 15367925 +is sakurais modern quantum mechanics worth getting? I already own his advanced quantum mechanics book and "intermediate quantum mechanics" by Bethe who goes a bit beyond what advanced quantum mechanics by sakurai does +--- 15367944 +>>15367170 +Physics forums has all the same problems as all forums, it creates namefag "superstars." Those who can answer your question with pithy one word replies, and then the board acts as though God himself has spoken, because that person has a lot of replies. +--- 15367992 +>>15367925 +yes +--- 15368797 +>>15366876 (OP) +QFT in a nutshell is a terrible textbook diff --git a/sci/15366883.txt b/sci/15366883.txt index d34009194d1b7241a37f557f5a14fc9bd3fa4c86..ad49ddbf5d7e756a3bcaa5a6d4ce955253942e1f 100644 --- a/sci/15366883.txt +++ b/sci/15366883.txt @@ -12,3 +12,27 @@ Why is he squining one eye? --- 15367197 >>15366883 (OP) Not sure what I hate most about him. His smug "I'm a psychology PhD ™" attitude, his pathetic excuse of a beard, his totally unfunny and ill-timed jokes or that fact that the scheme of his whole channel is to make clickbait videos off of the fear and obsession middle class people have with true crime. +--- 15367208 +>>15366883 (OP) +never heard of this faggot, no QRD please because ecelebs are cancer +--- 15367252 +>>15367197 +He has a PhD in counselling, not psychology +--- 15367354 +You can just tell that he was a loser growing up +--- 15367360 +>>15367252 +>in counselling +Lol...what a psued. I found his analysis to be surface level appearence in depth, very midwit, very community college B student. +--- 15367802 +>>15366912 +He's on an "antidepressant." Many such cases. +--- 15367846 +>>15366883 (OP) +If he lives rent free in your head while doing the things he likes and not ever thinking about you, you choose to give him power. You are like the people who get obsessed with celebrities and think they're gonna marry them one day. I guess some people are gonna see your thread and go follow him; so you even helped him a bit kek. Grow up. Homework exercise: +>ask yourself "what kind of relationship [eceleb] and I have?" +>ask yourself "how have we interacted in the past?" +>ask yourself "what does eceleb think about me?" +>realize that you're strangers and that everything is in your mind +>inb4 "b-b-ut h--he's making c-content I don't l-like" +>so are other 50 million people, and you can't control it. Don't watch it and don't think about it. diff --git a/sci/15366898.txt b/sci/15366898.txt index 92290cd05d86afaaf9de50969c663780582c0f23..3bbb3e665c5920d73cb2c8448b084746b57cc0b4 100644 --- a/sci/15366898.txt +++ b/sci/15366898.txt @@ -74,3 +74,116 @@ Holy shit. Please leave this thread. Wow! Almost like evopsych is just a bunch of post hoc "just so" stories with no predictive power or substance! --- 15367194 women are more likely to seek external validation to build their sense of self. they need attention in order to reflect feedback to their sense of self and belonging +--- 15367588 +>>15366939 +This +Also large gamete sex is more likely to be conservative with their strategy than the sex with a lot of small gametes +It's a bit uncomfortable to think that the size of your gametes dictates your sexual behaviour when you're such an enlightened and civilised person, but tough luck I suppose + +Also it seems some people really just don't talk to women much and are starting to consider them some sort of curse they can't escape from +--- 15369259 +>>15367588 +>Also it seems some people really just don't talk to women much and are starting to consider them some sort of curse they can't escape from +The ancient Greeks thought of them as a curse from Zeus who ruined mankind's peace. The Abrahamic religions also say woman ruined everything for mankind by getting Adam kicked out of Eden. Buddha said his teachings were going to be quickly diluted now that they've reached women's ears. + +This attitude is nothing new. Women are thought of as a curse because frankly they are. As a result, misogyny has become part of the intellectual tradition of mankind. +--- 15369294 +>>15366898 (OP) +Men are trying to escape the matrix, not double down. +--- 15369378 +>>15366906 +If there are people around, there is a nonzero chance and if there are people to smuggle makeup, then there are other people around. +--- 15369465 +>>15366898 (OP) +>How come the females of our species stick much better to their sexual strategy than the males? +Easy answer. +>Am I missing something? +Yes, Evolutionary Biology. +--- 15369496 +>>15366898 (OP) +The male strategy is very unnatural to many and requires going out of your comfort zone. Climbing the social ladder is competitive and few make it. Makeup and socializing is fun to females and requires less effort. Still competitive but not as much. It's very simple. +--- 15369502 +>>15366898 (OP) +you jack off to child pornography +--- 15369511 +>>15366898 (OP) +wait, you girls have strategy? +--- 15369524 +>>15369465 +so what do you think is the answer you dimwit + +>>15369502 +its called tiktok acutally +--- 15369711 +>>15366898 (OP) +it's a good question but my closest idea right now is that men are humanity's experiment and men in general are more interested in things than people which is the reverse for women + +men are agents going face to face with uncaring nature experimenting and finding new ways to thrive while women select those males that happen upon successful strategies be they novel or traditional +--- 15369713 +>>15369524 +>dimwit +You already decided Truth before knowing it. This is what dimwits do. + +>Always wrong. +>Never in doubt. +>Ask questions to deny answers, never learning, hence always wrong, but confident because being right was never to purpose. + +I AM CERTAIN, TOO. +--- 15369887 +>>15366898 (OP) +>Is passivity from the huge fraction of males some kind of sexual strategy? +Yes. +>>15367004 +No. +>>15369713 +The nerdy girls want the dick bro. They're gonna rug the 'only way to win is to not play' strategy. +--- 15369890 +>>15369502 +They make porn for children now? +--- 15369909 +>>15369887 +>They're gonna rug +Literally couldnt care less, this planet is polluted on the soul level. There is no Eve to my Adam, just polluted souls and corrupted agents. +--- 15369914 +>>15366939 +So false yet so true. Incredible really. +It's like the unconscious urges you to the truth until you find a way of expressing it in terms of your accepted dogma. +--- 15369920 +>>15369909 +>Literally couldnt care less +bet. as far as OP goes maybe it has to do with that thing where the only time a man releases the same chemical reaction in his brain is during his first father-son bonding moment(s), as opposed to the same chemical reaction the mother has when giving birth? dunno. +i do know your ass isnt getting no free counsel on how men play their game +--- 15369931 +>>15369920 +>first father-son bonding moment +I have never known this, I rejected my parents around age 7. Theyre just "people" that think they know me, they never knew me. +>i do know your ass isnt getting no free counsel +I have several PhDs, youre not "above me" on anything related to /sci/ in any form, including Psychology. +--- 15369932 +>>15369920 +>i do know your ass isnt getting no free counsel on how men play their game +I also give lectures on Development Cognition, the key difference between male and female perceptions of communication. + +Remember my name, buck-o...I AM NOT HUMAN. +--- 15369941 +>>15366898 (OP) +It’s historic dragging of the standards. Your sexual value among others of your gender is relative to them. Men invented patriarchy with men being the source of resources while also enforcing monogamy on the poor and sometimes even among rich. Making men the sorceress of labour and income flipped the biological roles where now men became more important then women. In most other species females are more important because they invest energy into the child while also taking care of themselves. In agricultural and post-agricultural humans the man is the main source of food and protection, he is more essential thus he can now become the picky one. These roles were reversed among the nobility where women no longer needed protection of the men and thus assumed the natural female superior position in pairing, but among the poor it was question of survival. Now make this system run for the course of 10 000 years and then cancel it the last 60 or so years and you will see why did this strategy persist. Also take into account that humans are mammals which overwhelmingly don’t select males on looks or merit, but rather males themselves restrict each other and fight each other over bigger and bigger harems. Humans would naturally have the alpha male not be naturally selected by the women, but select himself by trashing and putting down lesser men. This might be the whole reason why women are more attracted to status, and also why they sometimes have absurd preferences like being into dysgenic loser dorks just because. Luckily humans were smart enough to stop this destructive male nature and construct strict bridging rituals which can be found even in naked jungle tribes or savannah tribes. It is all just smart artificial lowering of standards by making all men not care so that women are forced to take bad partners just because there aren’t better ones. Plus it also works that women sexuality is a meme. +--- 15369945 +It's probably because women only think about their pussy while men think about their dick and other things too. +--- 15369950 +>>15369945 +>and other things too +If all sex is rape and rape is violence then violence is sex. "Fuck'em, Sarge." +--- 15369968 +>>15367060 +>T.never actually read about evo psy +--- 15369974 +>>15366898 (OP) +>Am I missing something? +Yes, 80% of males are not meant to reproduce. +--- 15369978 +>>15369950 +--- 15369997 +>>15369931 +>>15369932 +as far as that's concerned i say lets play a game, of this! how often do you get outside of your own head man? diff --git a/sci/15366916.txt b/sci/15366916.txt index eebe699e03e0cae96cb18d9d22bf92f2567133c2..c2697313db58a1f83f9b6fde39c8d8de94db02f3 100644 --- a/sci/15366916.txt +++ b/sci/15366916.txt @@ -1,3 +1,5 @@ ----- --- 15366916 Let's talk about Fun Anal +--- 15369659 +explain what generalized functions are, the motivation for them and how they work. diff --git a/sci/15366959.txt b/sci/15366959.txt index eaa06ae6466b19aa017e818ac6c38eb702362a23..4a00be0a31d1ed1f04e91514be5225698aeae351 100644 --- a/sci/15366959.txt +++ b/sci/15366959.txt @@ -7,3 +7,32 @@ is being tall with small pp worse than being a manlet with large pp? what does t easier to get women to fuck you, harder to keep them around >manlet with large pp easier to make women to stay with you, harder to make them fuck you +--- 15369304 +There is nothing worse than being a manlet. +--- 15369896 +>>15366959 (OP) +>tall +>big peepee +>37 y/o virgin +Scientifically speaking, what's the best way to off yourself? +--- 15369905 +>>15369896 +>what's the best way to off yourself? + +Depends on your own personality traits. + +Some people may want to accomplish something by offing themselves. + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu +--- 15369910 +>>15369905 +>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu +I just want to kill myself; I don't even care about bring those with me who inflicted this hell on me. + +How do I get the courage to do it quickly, painlessly and certainly? Imagine I'm a loser NEET with the archetypal inability to go through with any act that requires more constancy than jerking off. +--- 15369925 +>>15369910 +Not eating is one of the easiest things to do in the world, desu. +--- 15369980 +>>15369925 +That's literally the most agonisingly possible way of death. diff --git a/sci/15367012.txt b/sci/15367012.txt index 71f135c20a68656b03ddf24b6a49cf9d0565e60c..b5a6f9f45f9523caffccbc37d687e327e1a44f85 100644 --- a/sci/15367012.txt +++ b/sci/15367012.txt @@ -8,3 +8,10 @@ They dont work, just embrace lunacy --- 15367123 >>15367012 (OP) based neuroleptic malignant syndrome enjoyer +--- 15367772 +seroquel +--- 15369450 +Caplyta, Vraylar, or Rexulti. Rest are meh. Except low dose seroquel, kinda based for sleep. +--- 15369512 +>>15367069 +Freed from the hospital. Prescribed meds. Never took them. Ended contact with medical system. Never went to therapy. Does this make me a chad? diff --git a/sci/15367019.txt b/sci/15367019.txt index 07544b4c85e5f4323f6289fc4e13a3ef44ab403e..848fe253394543ac2c4cdfd4261cea67adb2e1a2 100644 --- a/sci/15367019.txt +++ b/sci/15367019.txt @@ -12,3 +12,16 @@ UNAM in Mexico and Eotvos Lorand in Hungary both look pretty cool. University of --- 15367162 > Any anon has experience with grad programs in English in Asia (China, SEA, Malasia, Indonesia, Japan). You can go back any time. +--- 15367248 +>>15367125 +>unfortunately the financial support package is $2700/month, in a city where most studios are literally $2k/month or more +Damn. I guess what I got offered isn't that bad compared to your situation. Thanks, I'll take a look at those universities you mentioned. Whats your major? +--- 15367309 +>>15367248 +Math. I'm about to complete a masters, primarily focusing on combinatorics. However, I applied to the PhD program indicating an interest in game theory, and my prospective advisor mainly works on game theory and decision theory. +--- 15367323 +>>15367309 +A very respectable major, you'll easily find a job especially with PhD. Your suffering will be worth it. +--- 15367327 +>>15367019 (OP) +What do you mean? The elite asian colleges typically have liveable stipend and are free from undergrad. What's your problem? diff --git a/sci/15367031.txt b/sci/15367031.txt index 3e5a3296e8616e272378fb10bb784e56c1549395..e9faaf6a84acb570452aec272ef10c17ff6827d4 100644 --- a/sci/15367031.txt +++ b/sci/15367031.txt @@ -1,3 +1,19 @@ ----- --- 15367031 why are there no more "inventors"? Has everything been invented already? +--- 15368353 +>>15367031 (OP) +Inventions occur every single day, and it's usually in big industry. +--- 15368408 +>>15367031 (OP) +>>15368353 +Inventions happen but since it's all under megacorporation the engineers and scientists behind it usually don't get credited. +The days of people inventing shit in their own basement are over. +--- 15368980 +>>15368408 +Not true. + +Independent inventors make shit all the time. Have you ever watched Shark Tank? +--- 15369354 +>>15367031 (OP) +Dat niqqa dead yo diff --git a/sci/15367032.txt b/sci/15367032.txt index 44a8f3f9468181e152cc12038c17a092bfd6d06f..75a6f24631a76eaa68ce0dcac87e62fee0d6a6b5 100644 --- a/sci/15367032.txt +++ b/sci/15367032.txt @@ -72,3 +72,23 @@ BECOME PHYSICA, REEE ETERNAL! --- 15367187 >>15367167 Mathematics is not subjective and I am not well liked, the latter being a rather profound understatement. +--- 15367239 +>>15367032 (OP) +Toker, did you write this will the CIA was sending electric shocks to your testicles? None of this shit make any sense. +--- 15367243 +>>15367032 (OP) +I'm glad to see you again. Are you still homeless? Are you finally taking your meds? +--- 15367254 +>>15367239 +>>15367239 +I think I wrote that one while they were still only electroshocking my asshole and legs. It didn't escalate to my dick and balls until Chauvin approached me disguised as a woman and then put an electroshock device down my pisshole after I paid him to suck my dick, thinking he was a female prostitute. That's the real thing that George Floyd was about. +--- 15367280 +>>15367254 +>>15367032 (OP) +This makes a lot of sense, Toker! Did your RH proof really come to you while you had George Floyd's BBC inside your electroshocked asshole as you screamed 'I CAN'T BREED' +--- 15367288 +>>15367131 +Link to your blog? +--- 15367291 +>>15367288 +http://gg762.net/ diff --git a/sci/15367049.txt b/sci/15367049.txt index c67486bc66c52df188186fea69bec301dbce7b50..1db6f6f67b551dcc12952f1a3f70050cd0c823bb 100644 --- a/sci/15367049.txt +++ b/sci/15367049.txt @@ -137,3 +137,687 @@ And that's why people like you deserve the wall >>15367171 >Two wrongs don't make one right. No, but thefact that you care so much about the drag queen and so little about the people actually fucking children shows you pedos are just projecting. +--- 15367212 +>>15367049 (OP) +>it's the only working treatment +Nice to know no other treatments are even hypotheses. Nope just make bigots suck that dick. +>alleviate depression +Oh but the thousands of drugs don't work yet we still prescribe them. How interesting. +--- 15367213 +>>15367193 +>goes into thread talking about why people who are transphobic, never provide any sort of evidence +>immediately makes a post refusing to give any evidence to explain his transphobia. +--- 15367217 +>>15367049 (OP) +>works well +There was a time when people thought lobotomies were a good idea. Physical surgery to cure mental disorders has a very bad and troubling history. +--- 15367218 +>>15367212 +>Nice to know no other treatments are even hypotheses. + +well hypotheses are just that, they're just hypotheses, some people have a hypothesis that crystals cure cancer, do they actually do that? No obviously not, but you're free to engage in studies to see if they do, and can you show me some of hypotheses you're talking about? +--- 15367219 +>>15367177 +It seems like you assume that a gender dysphoric kid shows no indication that can be identified by adults prompting them to provide the kid with guidance. +All sorts of people exist that you've never met or know about. Not hating different people is a learned morality that can be broadly applied without travelling the whole world. +>>15367195 +>No, but thefact that you care so much about the drag queen and so little about the people actually fucking children shows you pedos are just projecting. +Wow. You're making all sorts unjustified assumptions about me. It seems like you've created an image of me and you're talking to your own image that you're projecting on me. I'm a person, not a category, construct or object. Are you mentally ill? +--- 15367221 +>>15367049 (OP) +The problem is that gender is not a valid concept as its defined by gender theory, but actual acedemics pretend to believe it. Its like when religion was a part of academia. Everyone knows its bullshit, but we all have to pretend to believe it or else get in trouble. I'm not going to bully a religious nut over the fact they are delusional, but I'm also not going to pretend god exists when I'm tasked with understanding the world around me. +Trans ideology is the new religion, and gender is the new version of the 'soul'. You have people saying social constructs are not impacted by biology in actual universities where people are tasked with honestly trying to make sense of the world. Its ridiculous. +A trans woman is not a woman, its someone who want people to think they are one. It is true regardless of how much it bothers someone with gender dysphoria. People have to stop pretending to believe this nonsense and be held accountable when we put them into positions of authority. +--- 15367226 +>>15367218 +>some people have a hypothesis that crystals cure cancer, +This strawman is calling you a faggot as well. This bait thread is shit, take your buzzwords to Twitter, until I see physical measurable signs of gender dysphoria no hormones or blocker for kids. You ever bring up drag and the conversion will be over. +--- 15367228 +>>15367212 +>Oh but the thousands of drugs don't work yet we still prescribe them. How interesting. + +are you saying we should give trans people antidepresants? in the medical care industry it's important to find a treatment that targets the root cause, or as close as it can, it's like giving someone with a broken leg a bunch of painkillers, sure they might help a bit, but you could just fix their leg and that would work a whole lot better + +>>15367217 +except lobotomies are a completely different thing, its pretty much the same as just killing someone. whereas the base of gender dysphoria is wanting to be the opposite gender, therefore giving a gender dysphoric patient all the help they need to achieve that will help them quite alot, also there isnt any proof for HRT harming people with gender dysphoria at all +--- 15367234 +>>15367228 +>it's like giving someone with a broken leg a bunch of painkillers +The midwest called. They're running out of oxytocin again. +--- 15367235 +>>15367226 +>physical measurable signs of gender dysphoria + +... anon you realize you cant see that for most mental issues? also gender affirming treatment is literally proven to greatly help a trans person, and the detrans rate is 1.4% +--- 15367237 +>>15367219 +>I'm not projecting, your projecting! +You still haven't explained why all you "totally not pedos" care way more about children seeing drag queens then adults actually raping children. +--- 15367238 +>>15367235 +>anon you realize you cant see that for most mental issues? +Man, I always assumed brain scans were myth but now I know they are. And /sci/ says psychologically is a soft science. How wrong they are. +--- 15367245 +>>15367213 +You're a delusional groomer. No matter what people say you'll deny it. You'll also never be a woman. A fag in a dress is a fag even if he chops his dick off +--- 15367246 +>>15367238 +i said most? and gender dysphoria has only been taken seriously in regards to diagnosis and treatment quite recently. +--- 15367249 +>>15367245 +>assumes i'm a trans woman. +--- 15367250 +>>15367049 (OP) +Because it is not a working treatment for someone with gender dysphoria, and doesn't work well to alleviate depression and suicidal thoughts. +--- 15367253 +>>15367250 +Do you have any proof for these claims? I provided mine here >>15367108 +--- 15367256 +>>15367249 +I'm not assuming you're a woman. I'm calling you the faggot you are. +--- 15367257 +>>15367246 +Oh your adorable trying to use a general statement while before relying hard data that has been countered. +>recently +A certain group was studying it. Then it was stopped when people realized they were trying to push it. And now you use it get clout. Funny how that works. +--- 15367260 +>>15367237 +>all you "totally not pedos" +I'm not a member of any club. You're making me out to be a representative of a club. That's insane. +>you care way more about children seeing drag queens then adults actually raping children. +That's your assumption/accusation. I don't need to explain why your acusation is false. Take your meds. +--- 15367261 +>>15367256 +>assuming i'm AMAB + +>>15367257 +how has it been countered? + +amazing, an actual nazi lmao. +--- 15367264 +>>15367261 +>reading history makes you a nazi +Yep, bait thread. Well it was fun but I got some porn to go jack off to. +--- 15367265 +>>15367049 (OP) +Transitioning isn't a bad thing for the majority of troons. That being said, they should be able comprehend that they'll never truly become a woman and should stop forcing it on the rest of the population to acquiesce to their demands. Society shouldn't give concessions to the mentally ill. They're objects of ridicule and should remain that way. Troons should not be allowed to participate in women's sport. Instead a special category should be created to host athletic games specifically for the mentally ill. Troons will only be able to participate in this special category, alongside individuals afflicted with down syndrome and schizophrenia, to name a few. +--- 15367266 +>>15367264 +you were talking about them as if the nazis were the good guys in that genocidal scenario. + +>>15367265 +i don't understand why you're being so hateful though +--- 15367269 +>>15367261 +I'm not familiar with your schizo lingo and I don't care. You're a FGT — Faggot Groomer Tranny. +--- 15367270 +>>15367072 +>looking and acting like a woman greatly alleviates gender dysphoria +Kek no it doesn't faggot +It doesn't lower suicide rates trans is a mental illness that should be treated by fixing the source of their dysphoria rather than disfiguring their body +--- 15367273 +>>15367270 +it does lower the suicide rates though? do you have any proof? mine is provided in a post above + +also please tell me how we should fix the source of the dysphoria, because the source is unknown and no other treatment works +--- 15367277 +Friendly reminder tr00ns will claim "conversion therapy" (undergoing therapy to stop the dysphoria) doesn't work and makes them enact in their degeneracy more. Double reminder that they simultaneously argue that "conversion therapy" for pedos (therapy to stop them from molesting kids) is effective. +--- 15367278 +>>15367049 (OP) +Because the only treatment for mental illness is to pretend they're not real and coddling faggots/enabling their faggotry only wastes human potential and directly harms society by result. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_disintegration +--- 15367283 +>>15367278 +show me proof that, that works though, whereas transition does +--- 15367294 +>>15367072 +>looking and acting like a woman greatly alleviates gender dysphoria +Kek no it doesn't faggot +It doesn't lower suicide rates trans is a mental illness that should be treated by fixing the source of their dysphoria rather than disfiguring their body +--- 15367300 +>>15367283 +show me proof that the body horror of transition works and it's not just the morphine and SSRIs speaking +--- 15367319 +>>15367049 (OP) +Rates of dysphoria in kids are the highest they've ever been in history. Rates of depression in kids are the highest they've been in history. Every social and medical trend from the last 15 years has made the problem worse. + +Castrating and mutilating a healthy body will never be a justifiable treatment for psychological instability +--- 15367357 +>>15367294 +again, do you have any actual proof it doesnt lower suicide rates? i provided some in the thread. + +>>15367300 +https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/article-abstract/2779429 + +>>15367319 +why do you think both of those are linked though, also it is a justifiable treatment because it improves the mental health of the patient greatly (read the study linked above retard) +--- 15367358 +>>15367264 +The nazis would not condone porn, you know. It's a Jewish invention after all. +--- 15367362 +>>15367049 (OP) +People old enough to make such decisions themselves never pass and end up looking like ghouls. Trying to groom children into this is sick and disgusting. +Maybe it is stuff for the future, but nowdays it just seems like giving people false hopes to make money by cutting them up and feeding them drugs. +--- 15367366 +>>15367072 +I used to think I had gender dysphoria. I might have had it, even. +I knew all along that there was nothing short of miracle that would grant my biggest wish, but the miracle just wouldn't come, reality was unyielding. Even now I'm sure that if I went for a surgery (never wanted, I stopped thinking like that before it became popular) I wouldn't have been happier, it wouldn't have helped. You know what did? Learning to accept myself, working to better myself, focusing on spiritual rather than material. Ideals and values saved me. +--- 15367368 +>>15367362 +i'm assuming you're talking about adults, if so, yeah obviously if you have experienced male puberty to completion you will have quite a hard time passing as female, but if you start hrt before puberty it shouldnt be a problem, also adult trans people can get FFS which almost definitely will make you pass. + +how is it giving false hopes? its just a treatment for gender dysphoria, the regret rate is super low, it greatly improves mental health and greatly reduces suicides, this is also the only working treatment for it, and if you think there are other treatments i implore you to give me some evidence +--- 15367371 +>>15367366 +ok? good for you? but for others they will be severely depressed and may even commit suicide if they dont get HRT, the whole pull yourself up by your bootstraps approach really doesnt work for the large majority. +--- 15367373 +>>15367371 +Dishonest. What I'm trying to say is that hrt and surgery is a road that leads nowhere and you know that's what I meant. +--- 15367376 +>>15367373 +why do you think it leads to nowhere? it reduces suicidal thoughts and depression +--- 15367378 +>>15367376 +It changes the source of depression and suicidal thoughts from imaginary and fixable to real and irreversible. +--- 15367383 +>>15367378 +imaginary??? where are you getting this from. +--- 15367386 +>>15367383 +Mainly experience and having a functioning brain. +--- 15367392 +>>15367386 +"wheres your proof that suicidal thoughts and depression are imaginary' + +>ermmm COMMON SENSE +--- 15367397 +>>15367392 +Dishonest again, tranny. I said the source is imaginary and fixable. Depression and sucidial thoughts are real and that's pretty sad you want to accelerate it into a point of no return. +--- 15367398 +>>15367397 +how is the source imaginary though, is schizophrenia imagined? is PTSD imagined? +--- 15367415 +>>15367398 +schizophrenia yes, ptsd no +--- 15367427 +Holy fucking shit. Using a question mark after every remark makes you look like an idiot and unsure of your point. Just shut up. You're dishonest. You're on par with a snake oil salesmen attempting to sell extremely expensive and invasive surgery, and complete social upheaval that's purely detrimental. Quit feigning that you're hurt by replies to your stupidity. You don't give a damn about women, you don't give a damn about children, you don't give a damn about the struggling men you psychologically push into doing this to themselves. +--- 15367431 +>>15367427 +oh noooo not the question marks! +--- 15367457 +>>15367049 (OP) +Even if dysphoria is real, how would a non-functional frankenweiner/vag that doesn't even look like it's supposed to and literally no one is sexually attracted to that needs constant maintenance to keep from falling apart help alleviate it? +--- 15367554 +>>15367049 (OP) +I'm not expert but that's what I know. +1 unfortunately it seems to only postpone the depression and suicide attempts as they are very high among trans people +2 some people turn out to be gay or just go through a phase so transitioning before adulthood is somewhat dubious... But it means that puberty occurs which is a problem for trans people. Reconciling this is a big issue. +3 there are issues with the medical procedures regardles of eny other objection and it's quite expensive +4 it's still a very small ammount of people so there's a disconnect between the loudness of the discussion and the ammount of people affected. +There's 1.6 million in the US with the whole population being 331 mil +Let's be generous and say it's the same worldwide... It's about 39 million people from the 8 billion +There are about 26 million schizophrenic people worldwide and there were 18 mil new cases of cancer in 2020. +Maybe I'm without a heart, but I think these issues deserve the same ammount of attention this issue gets to balance it out. + +Feel free to correct me, I'm not sure I got things right +--- 15367580 +>>15367554 +>it's still a very small ammount of people so there's a disconnect between the loudness of the discussion and the ammount of people affected. +So much this. Trannies make such a tiny portion of the population, they aren't a significant voting block, or something the average Joe is likely to ever have to deal with in his lifetime, yet both sides of the aisle are just ***OBSESSED*** with tranies. I dunno if it's twitter or what, but seriously, the subject is barely worth talking about beyond niche fascination, and certainly isn't worth legislating over. +--- 15367594 +>>15367580 +It's good for greasing the wheels of government and business while not really moving the needle on important topics that affect the 99% people who don't deal with this + +It seems unlike you I do think trans issues should be discussed but only in conjunction with aforementioned issues and this receive an equal share of attention as they do +--- 15367607 +>>15367049 (OP) +>works well +--- 15367657 +>>15367049 (OP) +I don't really care whether trannies cut their dicks off or whatever, people will do all kinds of shit to get off. +The retarded part starts when they start to believe their own bullshit and expect me to accommodate their dumb feelings. +--- 15367834 +>>15367277 +Top kek, you know the trannies got pwned when they don't have a canned response which is why they're ignoring your post. +--- 15368219 +>>15367049 (OP) +>How is letting insane people cut off their arms bad? +You're not a fucking scientist if you think someone was born in the wrong body. No proof, it's all social science bullshit. You're not a bullshit social scientist, are you? +--- 15368398 +>>15367049 (OP) +my problem with it is how hard it's being pushed everywhere. groups and institutions are popping up all over the place in the western world and pushing rather aggressively for trans representation and rights with significant and alarming overreach (women's sports, children's sexuality etc.) degenerates like rapists and pedophiles get away with repulsive crimes by identifiying as trans and hiding behind the trans community. every company under the sun bends over backwards for the trans community when they typically only care for what is directly profitable. who is behind all this momentum trans people have? it reeks of jewish fuckery and I don't like it +--- 15368613 +>>15367064 +>>15367082 +>>15367088 +>>15367099 +>>15367128 +>>15367171 +>>15367185 +>>15367212 +>>15367217 +>>15367250 +>>15367270 +>>15367278 +>>15367294 +>>15367319 +>>15367373 +>>15367378 +>>15367427 +>>15367457 +>>15367607 +>>15368219 +Whether someone is 'really' metaphysically the gender they say they are is a meaningless question, the question is whether it works to alleviate distress, which empirically it does: +https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/ +https://old.reddit.com/r/musicotic/comments/8ttud4/a_comprehensive_defense_of_trans_people/ +https://pastebin.com/u4cVwjye +--- 15368617 +>>15367106 +>>People don't want their children who are not gender dysphoric to be made unnecessarily confused by the education system. +So what should we do for the ones who do turn out to be gender dysphoric? Educating them about their condition early can spare them a lot of pain. +>>15367185 +The people who want to stop trans kids from transitioning are the ones who want to hurt them. +--- 15368621 +>>15367084 +>>15367106 +>>15367171 +>>15367265 +>>15368398 +No one is saying that anyone who says they identify as a woman should automatically be allowed to play in women's sports right away. But is there any evidence that a trans woman who's been on HRT for years and has testosterone levels down to within a normal female range has any substantive advantage that's not within the range of female variance? +--- 15368706 +>>15367657 +depends what you mean by accomodate, im sure most trans people want to just have proper healthcare (yes this includes trans kids) and also adequate discrimination laws. +--- 15368741 +>>15367130 +>still should let them transition + +Ok do it with your money and leave my son in peace. I have no problems but the fact that you are targeting kids and that this is not science +--- 15368744 +>>15368741 +Except by let them transition I meant as a treatment to gender dysphoria, and if your 'son' has gender dysphoria are you just gonna let him go through puberty normally? are you gonna force him to be depressed and suicidal? trasnsitioning works well to alleviate gender dysphoria. +--- 15368753 +>>15367049 (OP) +>plastic surgery and lifelong dependence on brain pills are not a bad thing +:l +--- 15368756 +>>15368753 +I mean like, if both of those things greatly reduce the chance of suicide and greatly reduce feelings of depression, then yeah, they aren't a bad thing, also brain pills what? +--- 15368758 +>>15367195 +>No but... + +So has a point. You can't prove that what you are doing is discovering something that is out there and not creating it. Make it a science in a way such that when my son has a mental health problem he can't end up with the same problem and mutilated +--- 15368764 +>>15368744 +Frankly, if it's a kid we're talking about, I think you should spend at least close to ten years in that body, post-puberty, before you start chopping parts of it off. Kids and teens haven't given their body a proper trial, transitioning should really be an adults-only thing. (Even then, I'd test for drugs too, as drugs make you do stupid shit.) + +It's much more optimal to learn to be comfortable in the body you were born with, than it is to surgically alter it. +--- 15368772 +>>15368756 +>I make you insecure +>I convince you that your insecurity comes from having smol boobs or smol pp +>After paying 10k and getting surgery you get a solution to the problem that i created on you and that you didn't have before +>Woah they reduce suicide and depresion i might be a saint or a nun of some kind, lets spread it more +--- 15368780 +>>15368756 +>look here goy, my clipboard says the ONLY way for you to feel normal is through genital mutilation! +>make sure you take these goofballs to keep your head from ever clearing from the fog of uncertainty, too +>don't be transphobic goy, the medical industry would never fake research and suppress findings to predate on vulnerable populations! +Oxycodone, my love. Life will never be the same after you, life can never be good again without you. +--- 15368784 +>>15368744 +Prove that my son has gender dysphoria beyond any reasonable doubt, there cases of people regreting the said transition and they are not precisely few. My son has not gender dysphoria with a very high chance, what you do is not alter the development and spread propaganda, you are suposed to be a scientist not a salesman +--- 15368786 +If gender isn't real, then why do trans people exist? +--- 15368788 +>>15368764 +>Frankly, if it's a kid we're talking about, I think you should spend at least close to ten years in that body, post-puberty, before you start chopping parts of it off. Kids and teens haven't given their body a proper trial, transitioning should really be an adults-only thing. (Even then, I'd test for drugs too, as drugs make you do stupid shit.) + +ok but why? if transition is proven to greatly improve your mental state, and the detransition rate is extremely low, then why wait? if the detransition rate was high then I would be more understanding, but its not, its around 1.4%, if a child is diagnosed with gender dysphoria then yeah, 98.6% chance they have it + +>>15368772 +No? gender dysphoric children are born gender dysphoric, also small pp? really? if that was the case then do you think that there are no trans women with big penises? give me some proof gender dysphoria is faked. + +>>15368780 +>look here goy, my clipboard says the ONLY way for you to feel normal is through genital mutilation! + +if you have gender dysphoria then like, HRT is a great treatment, and then SRS is also great too but not 100% neccesary, can you please show my a treatment for gender dysphoria that works? other than transitioning? also provide proof please. + +>>make sure you take these goofballs to keep your head from ever clearing from the fog of uncertainty, too + +??? what the fuck are you talking about + +>>15368784 +If your child is diagnosed, then yeah, not getting them treatment is essentially purposefully harming your child. the detransition rate for under 18's after going into adulthood is 1.4%, that is really fucking good for a medical treatment, its impossible to have a 100% success rate, show me any treatment that has that, 20% of people regret knee surgery, should we ban that too? +--- 15368789 +>>15368788 +>the detransition rate for under 18's after going into adulthood is 1.4%, that is really fucking good for a medical treatment +You can't "detransition" from youth chemical castration except in those 1.4% of cases where it was done late enough. The damage is irreparable so no doctor will allow it, therefore you can say the rate of people following through is low. +--- 15368798 +>>15368789 +>You can't "detransition" from youth chemical castration except in those 1.4% of cases where it was done late enough. + +why can't you? its tough sure but you can do it, if most trans people regretted taking HRT but were too scared to detransition, wouldnt the self reported satisfaction of hrt be very low? because it's quite high. + +> The damage is irreparable so no doctor will allow it, therefore you can say the rate of people following through is low. + +lmao what, you really think a doctor is gonna force you to keep taking hrt? are you serious? show me proof this happens because this is nonsensical +--- 15368801 +>>15367049 (OP) +Imagine thinking that attempting to change one's biological sex, in which the result is not a true transition, will alleviate any negative physiological states. Also gender dysphoria doesn't exist, people are just in a social condition in which you can spend a disproportionate amount of time thinking about whether having a penis or not is causing your suffering, i.e. They don't have an established identity (as their given sex) to recognize themselves in the world. +--- 15368805 +>>15368798 +>why can't you? +Because if you take castration drugs to stop puberty, you will never have sexual organs develop. It can't be undone. You will always have a micropenis or undeveloped ovaries, forever, regardless of if you regret it or not. +>lmao what, you really think a doctor is gonna force you to keep taking hrt? +A doctor will tell you that your sexual organs are undeveloped and will never recover regardless of what you do, and will likely counsel you to live as you are because you're too far gone to help. +--- 15368807 +>>15368788 +>If your child is diagnosed + +Define diagnosis. I cant get wrong diagnosis from a brain tumor, it either appears on the tac or it doesnt, its either losing strength on my right arm or not losing it, its either me dying and the doctor finding it when opening my skull to try and find out why tf i died 30 all of a suden or dying 80. There is no in between, its objective. I can go right now to a psychologist, start telling them about objective stuff that happened to me and get a trillion "diagnosis" most of them contradictory, there are no objective causes jet in psychiatry +--- 15368808 +>>15368788 +Nice numbers my friend! I am now on board with this 'gender dysphoria,' I believe you wholeheartedly that it is a real thing that definitely exists in real life. After all, nobody would sell a snake oil disease for a snake oil cure, certainly not in MY medical industrial complex! +--- 15368809 +>>15367049 (OP) +>Cutting off your cock is science +--- 15368811 +>>15368798 +Because all eggs are in the fucking basket and there is no turn back. In that case is better just going forward +--- 15368814 +>>15368805 +>Because if you take castration drugs to stop puberty, you will never have sexual organs develop. It can't be undone. You will always have a micropenis or undeveloped ovaries, forever, regardless of if you regret it or not. + +ok? and? doesn't mean you cant detransition, detransitioning is just stopping hrt. + +>A doctor will tell you that your sexual organs are undeveloped and will never recover regardless of what you do, and will likely counsel you to live as you are because you're too far gone to help. + +I mean no? the doctor will just tell you what you can and cant revert, and will probably just stop prescribing you hrt and may give you resources regarding breast removal surgery. also could maybe give you testosterone? + +> +Define diagnosis. I cant get wrong diagnosis from a brain tumor, it either appears on the tac or it doesnt, its either losing strength on my right arm or not losing it, its either me dying and the doctor finding it when opening my skull to try and find out why tf i died 30 all of a suden or dying 80. There is no in between, its objective. I can go right now to a psychologist, start telling them about objective stuff that happened to me and get a trillion "diagnosis" most of them contradictory, there are no objective causes jet in psychiatry + +do you know how diagnosis works in pyschaiatry? its all up to what you say, like yeah I could probably convice a pysch I'm schizophrenic and have bpd or whatever, but I would be lying, if you tell the truth, and why would a kid lie??!?! (inb4 you say that kids dont know how they're feeling), if a kid feels gender dysphoric, and ticks all the boxes for gender dysphoria, then yeah, there is a very very very low chance of the child NOT having it. +--- 15368816 +>>15368788 +>ok but why? if transition is proven to greatly improve your mental state, and the detransition rate is extremely low, then why wait? if the detransition rate was high then I would be more understanding, but its not, its around 1.4%, if a child is diagnosed with gender dysphoria then yeah, 98.6% chance they have it +Because you don't want to do unnecessary surgery from which there is no coming back. It also leaves them knowing they are not *quite* in the right body, regardless of whether or not they want to detransition, so it's by far and away preferable for them to adjust to their natural body. It's worth giving at least a decade to that hope as the alternative is sub-optimal at best. +--- 15368818 +>>15368808 +lol, ok keep being a schizo i guess. + +>>15368811 +wouldnt the self reported rates of satisfaction be really low then? why would depression be lower if they regretted it so much? + +>>15368816 +children don't get surgeries, also surgeries also have a super low regret rate, why are you talking about this ten year bullshit, you dont have any proof, if you were right then the detrans rate would be super high right? +--- 15368819 +>>15368816 +Well that, and children don't really know what it means to be male or female. Teens barely know and even if they think they do, anyone undergoing puberty should be considered temporarily insane and not be making life-long decisions. +--- 15368823 +>>15368818 +>children don't get surgeries +Then we're fine. If you have to wait until adulthood, then you're getting about a ten year ride in that body. Hopefully you work it out, because an artificial sex change is never going to be perfect. You'll always be uncomfortable, particularly if you can't "pass". Best case scenario, you learn to love yourself as you are. +--- 15368828 +>>15368814 +Thats the question. Its a fucking kid. When i was a kid i wanted to be astronaut, a waitress, a pokemon trainer, a mathematician, a singer and also made up stories with my imaginary friends. How about not setting up the system in such a monstruous way? Why are the odds low? Its not a normal probability, its bayes theorem. Odds of him really being dysphoric (really coming from him) given the fact that people like you spread propaganda through social media and that kid are by nature delusional and vulnerable. You are not measuring something that is out there, you are crafting it +--- 15368832 +Friendly reminder tr00ns will claim "conversion therapy" (undergoing therapy to stop the dysphoria) doesn't work and makes them enact in their degeneracy more. Double reminder that they simultaneously argue that "conversion therapy" for pedos (therapy to stop them from molesting kids) is effective. +--- 15368833 +>>15367049 (OP) +>alleviate depression and suicidal thoughts. +So it's a bad thing. +--- 15368836 +>>15368818 +>You think expensive and unnecessary body modification with the added baggage of permanent reliance on specialist care and an assortment of mind-altering pharmaceuticals is suspicious? +>Wow, you must be crazy +Ok ok, I'm done for the night. Real talk, I know you're baiting but I just can't help myself. In 50 years wider society is going to be looking at all this tranny shit the same way we look at icepick lobotomies today, so here's the question lads: +Where do you think this is headed? Do you agree with 50 years? Do you feel optimistic and think it'll shift back to normal in ten? Or are you cynical enough to see a future where this is a permanent grift that's going to take advantage of society's mentally ill for the next century? +--- 15368837 +>>15368828 +the detransition rate is 1.4%, if kids actually regretted it, it would be alot higher no? +--- 15368840 +The notion that someone's transition will ever be universally recieved beyond basic courtesy is unrealistic, and making permanent decisions under the assumption it will sounds like a bad idea. The most avid support comes from fetishists. +--- 15368843 +>>15368818 +>wouldnt the self reported rates of satisfaction be really low then? why would depression be lower if they regretted it so much? + +Why would you say it out loud when you cant scape from it? Its being intelligent, not having a coherent internal dialogue can be a torture. Thats not going anywhere, its trapped in the past and it bounds your days being the same over and over again +--- 15368845 +>>15368843 +Anon do you have any evidence for these claims? like anything? I've provided studies showing that the regret rate is super low, and you've given me nothing, do you have any evidence? +--- 15368851 +>>15368837 +I just told you a reason why they would lie to a doctor. I have a point, dont switch the point of view, its dangerous as fuck. Why would you say it out loud when you cant scape from it? You invested everything in that. If it fails, whats left? +--- 15368858 +>>15368837 +i fucking hate how dishonest trannies like you are. you're talking about the most extreme cases, which is still over 1.4%. a majority of them desist and have nothing to detransition, dumb fuck. jesus christ your ilk make my blood boil. +--- 15368867 +>>15368851 +But do you have any evidence to support these claims? maybe other cases like this where people lie about being happy with it? or any sort of study? proving that people do this en masse + +>>15368858 +>you're talking about the most extreme cases, + +? explain + +> which is still over 1.4% + +are you saying the rate is higher than that? because at most its 3% higher but still that study is a bit dubious, even if it was 5%, thats still a great rate of regret, though its lower. + +> majority of them desist and have nothing to detransition, + +what? I'm confused +--- 15368876 +>>15368837 +>the detransition rate is 1.4%, if kids actually regretted it, it would be alot higher no? +If kids don't get surgery then what are you talking about? + +Plus, full op M2F's can't de-transition. +--- 15368879 +>>15368867 +i'm saying detransition isn't the same as desistance, dishonest tranny. if you don't know this, then that verifies that you're a shill who's trying to make kids trans without knowing the full story. if you do know this and don't understand what i'm saying, then you're simply put a fucking idiot. if you do know what i'm saying and are playing stupid, then this confirms you're a dishonest piece of shit. it's anon's trilemma: either you're a shill trying to make kids trans, a dumb fuck, or a dishonest piece of shit. which is it? honestly i'd say it's all 3. +>verification not required +--- 15368885 +>>15368867 +No its not the same, imagine regreting brain tumor surgery because the patient had no tumor whatsoever. And thats not the point, its not a matter of bulk. What really matters is that you cant do that, even if it was only one person regreting it. Ends dont justify means. Targeting kids for this is disgusting. You cant even say that it is a real problem. There is no measure of what is inside your head. After investing many years of your life into this and after trashing away your capacity of having kids with your genetics material how in hell are you going to say it out loud and accept it? Also, do i really have to search the fucking study to point you the gorillion statistical traps and falacies that it has to have necesarily? +--- 15368892 +>>15368879 +He's playing devil's advocate, don't take it personally. +--- 15368896 +>>15368876 +>If kids don't get surgery then what are you talking about? + +>Plus, full op M2F's can't de-transition. + +Detransition just means returning to what you were before transitioning, you dont actually have to do anything else other than quitting hrt and going back to your original name and pronouns, that's it. if you get any surgery you can still detransition, it doesnt matter. also do you know what HRT is? it's estrogen and a T blocker, its not a surgery. + +>>15368879 +they mean the same thing, it's just desistance is a TERF word, retard all of the studies I'm referencing view detransitioning as just stopping hrt. which in your view would be the same as 'desisting' no? + +>>15368885 +Cool logic anon, if you had the choice, would you kill 98 people, or 2 people? which option would be better? also here is one of the studies. + +https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(22)00254-1/fulltext +--- 15368898 +>>15367072 +I think HRT and transitioning in general should stay as an option to alleviate gender dysphoria, but I am curious of other methods to treat it. If your own perception of how others perceive you is what is the root cause of the discomfort, then there could be some other method of treatment. Much like any other disconformity someone may have, such as a lisp, deafness, or colour blindness, I think we should seek to give people a plethora of options for addressing whatever things they see fit about their body. +--- 15368900 +>>15368896 +another one + +https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24872188/ +--- 15368903 +>>15368892 +He is playing the dishonest shill trany cocksucker faggot that enjoy showing drags to 4 years old +--- 15368905 +>>15368896 +>if you get any surgery you can still detransition, it doesnt matter. +While I agree with the rest of your sentiments, one cannot really undo the effects of FFS and SRS. +--- 15368906 +>>15368896 +>detransition = desistance +wrong. confirmed all three. +>stopping hrt. which in your view would be the same as 'desisting' no? +you really are a dumb fuck, aren't you? "trans youth" are identified as preteens who have diagnosable gender dysphoria, and haven't even undergone puberty let alone have used puberty blockers and far from it from even using hrt. these people desist in their gender dysphoria. funny how you keep citing all these random studies, yet don't even understand the definitions of the words used. honestly, you should just kys. +--- 15368909 +>>15368905 +You can't undo them yes, but that doesn't mean you cant detransition after having them. + +>>15368906 +Do you have any proof for your claims? you realize you cant just say things without giving any proof right?, also you clearly havent read the studies lmao +--- 15368914 +>>15368909 +>waaah you're making stuff up +keep seething tranny. even the apa accepts the high desistance rate. +https://www.apa.org/practice/guidelines/transgender.pdf +--- 15368918 +>>15368914 +Can you give me the actually study they used though? or are you just gonna say no and concede, it's important to provide evidence for your claims, god its like im arguing with a retard +--- 15368922 +>>15368918 +all the studies are there. if you actually cared to fact check what i am saying, you would do it. since you're not doing so, and responded to my post within a single minute (after having clearly not read it), i can only conclude you're arguing in bad faith. you've confirmed that the trilemma i posed for you is valid. there's nothing more for me to tell you. +--- 15368927 +>>15368918 +>Can you give me the actually study they used though? + +Grabbing any single oportunity to ad-hominem and scape the unavoidable fact that this kind of stuff will be seen in the future as mengele tier stuff +--- 15368930 +>>15368922 +>all the studies are there + +can you link me one? or are you still gonna refuse to give me any evidence. + +>>15368927 +>makes a claim +>refuses to give proof +--- 15368952 +>>15368930 +The shillest shill shilling in the sea of shillnes that knew everything about why trans agenda was right being dishonest and avoiding the real battleground for 48th time. Imagine Witten questioning the minimum action principle and requiring link to the source because he doesnt trust +--- 15368954 +>>15368896 +>Detransition just means returning to what you were before transitioning, you dont actually have to do anything else other than quitting hrt and going back to your original name and pronouns, that's it. if you get any surgery you can still detransition, it doesnt matter. also do you know what HRT is? it's estrogen and a T blocker, its not a surgery. +They can't give you your cock and balls back. + +And if you give a kid HRT, then he's never really been a man or a woman to need to transition away from. +--- 15368957 +>>15368952 +isn't it funny how they don't accept the apa as a valid source? it's hilarious. +--- 15368971 +Body dysmorphia is a problem of living in your head too much. No need for body altering hormones' or invasive surgery. Just stop thinking +--- 15368975 +>>15368971 +>Living in your head +No, living online. The terminally online inevitably transform into trannies. +--- 15368978 +>>15368975 +Don't forget anime and porn addiction. +--- 15369271 +>>15367049 (OP) +Just because something is possible doesn't mean we should do it. +Can't you see that a problem in the way you think or feel shouldn't be solved by butchering the body you were born in, and that instead research should be focused on fixing the mind, not changing the body? +--- 15369314 +>>15368706 +>adequate discrimination laws +That's exactly the kind of shit I'm talking about, faggot. +If you just said that trannyism was analogous to schizophrenia or something, and dressing up as a woman made it more bearable, then I wouldn't complain. +But (unlike for schizos) I'm expected to do a little dance and join your cult ("ackshually genders are just made up concepts but they're also real and I am objectively the one I choose"), or you're going to call the cops? +--- 15369324 +>>15367056 +>>15367059 +if christianity says it's right to hate trannies and sexual degenerates, that's actually a point FOR christianity...try to keep up you dysgenic weirdos! +--- 15369399 +>>15367049 (OP) +Because promortalism is true and reality is bad, let alone if you're a troon. +--- 15369679 +>>15369324 +sky god said so! +--- 15369693 +>>15367049 (OP) +>it's the only working treatment for someone with gender dysphoria, and works well to alleviate depression and suicidal thoughts. +how's that coming along in day to day conversation? +--- 15369695 +>>15369693 +? +--- 15369699 +>>15367049 (OP) +>and works well to alleviate depression and suicidal thoughts. +except it doesn't +--- 15369703 +>>15369699 +proof? + +here is mine :3 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/article-abstract/2779429 +--- 15369750 +>>15369703 +>:3 +go back +--- 15369757 +>>15367366 +future John, 50 here lads +--- 15369844 +>>15369695 +OP is right, I should say. Psychological hurdles of the mind - be them of the self or by another - are always something to be respected; especially if a treatment and or helpful guidance unto the shift (required amid the mind) to overcome those hurdles (so as to better function in a social environments) furthers the prosperity and self-actualization of the individual, and by extension, the collective. + +If you are having trouble understanding how traditionalist, collective values of a society tend to reflect a common belief - held towards something like transitioning - as to be a "bad thing", then, (hopefully) you may understand why it can be difficult to try and explain what it is OP is right about specifically, but in a way throughout one's day where each social interaction is too fleeting to concern oneself over; not just yet. +>gender dysphoria is an aspect of a greater personality 'disorder' +>here are two common examples, and a common misconception +>find your middle ground +I'm in a place where folks absolutely are (and will continue) boycotting butt lite like it's going out of style. When I get to see them for but a moment of no more than 3 minutes in a day, I can't drop every single hot take I have on the topic (not the subject), so it makes it hard to converse with others about these subjects (and topics) when you can't express sincerity in your own way, even when you're confident that if no positive change has been directly made in the conversation for that person from you, you can be confident that you got your point across, and that you presented it well, and accurately. A lot goes into your approach, but your conclusion is what your audience ('should') remember most. + +I hope this may help you in the future, Anon. Should you find yourself wondering why the people around you just don't seem to "Get it" and you just want to scream ""Wake" up". +--- 15369859 +>>15369703 +Don't compare before and after, compare it with normal population. And again it doesnt prove shit, doesn't prove that you are a symptom and not the cause +--- 15369862 +>>15367266 +>genocidal scenario. +You do know the holocaust didn't actually happen right? +--- 15369864 +>>15367368 +>just give prepubescent children hrt lol +try to be more subtle next time +--- 15369879 +>>15367368 +Ok be happy with it and do it with your son and your money. Leave mine in peace. If he is sad because he doesnt feel like a pirate i wont chop off his leg and eye. Puting drag degenerate fagots to predate on kids playing in school for profit is disgusting +--- 15369897 +>>15369750 +not your safe space + +>>15369859 +why would you ever do that? obviously it would be different to the normal population because they have a disorder and thus arent 'normal', it's like if you studied a schizophrenic persons psychotic episodes before and after meds, but you compared it to the normal population, obviously it would still be high compared to that because they're fucking schizophrenic, they aren't normal and thus it is useless to compare them to the normal population. what matters is that they're better off than before. +--- 15369899 +>>15369879 +1.4% detransition rate retard, almost no one regrets transitioning as a child. and detransitioning is just stopping hrt, thats it, so yeah your kid should transition because otherwise you're dooming them +--- 15369903 +>>15367049 (OP) +>it's the only working treatment for someone with gender dysphoria, +Wrong, ECT works. So does having sex. +>and works well to alleviate depression and suicidal thoughts. +Wrong, post op suicide rate is higher than preup. + +It's a moneymaking schemes which doubles as a eugenics programme to filter brainlets from the gene pool (/sci/ approved). +--- 15369908 +>>15369897 +I'm not that Anon, but consider that medicine, particularly the management of chronic disease, is geared towards simulating the normal. For example: inflammatory bowel disease can not be ''cured'', it's a chronic condition, but it can be considered to be in remission for decades if during that time no markers of inflammation exceed normal values. This is standard medical practice. +--- 15369911 +>>15369903 +>Wrong, ECT works. So does having sex. + +proof? + +>Wrong, post op suicide rate is higher than preup. + +proof? (x2) + +>>15369908 +sure, but obviously basing everything on whether its exactly the same as the normal population and calling it a failure if it doesnt line up with that is dumb. +--- 15369944 +>>15369911 +>sure, but obviously basing everything on whether its exactly the same as the normal population and calling it a failure if it doesnt line up with that is dumb. +I agree. That's why something needs to happen that used to be normal but now is shunned for political reasons: transparant and pubicly accessible development of cost/benefit and risk/reward analysis for decision making. A standard for what do in what scenario. Ideologues don't want that because objectivity shuts down discussion. Surely there are standards to learn from other medical practices how much resources we are willing to spend prevent suicide, drug abuse, criminality and loss of production. Now the attention given to gender dysphoric people may be completely disproportionate. What other problems are we not spending those resources on or are we going to raise taxes to increase budget? +--- 15370003 +>>15368613 +>>15368617 +>>15368621 +I notice no one here has responded to what I said. diff --git a/sci/15367078.txt b/sci/15367078.txt index 99d46d1679eb1c46ac96a43f42fe304d4574b8ad..f99482cc0832eb1a0f77b7f90b6759e658bbf902 100644 --- a/sci/15367078.txt +++ b/sci/15367078.txt @@ -37,3 +37,112 @@ That's what my granddad and dad did when I was 8. I turned out fine >>15367089 --- 15367196 >>15367191 +--- 15367315 +>>15367190 +>your grandad and dad fugged in front of you when you were 8 +is that why youre here? +--- 15367341 +>>15367078 (OP) +when you reach a certain peak, you just don't want to get laid, and enjoy being completely self sufficient +--- 15367367 +>>15367315 +No. I'm here because reddit banned me for constantly saying the n word. +--- 15367403 +>>15367078 (OP) +Because women are evil >:( +--- 15367410 +>>15367078 (OP) +Getting laid is easy, pay a prostitute. Hard part is getting laid with someone you give a damn about and forming a long lasting relationship with. +--- 15367564 +>>15367078 (OP) +Who's to say that I don't do that somewhat regularly? +Didn't have much to do with being a scientist exept that we went to the same uni +--- 15367571 +>>15367089 +>men want cute +then be cute +--- 15367645 +>>15367078 (OP) +I could get laid but i'd rather wait for a nice smart guy to sweep me of my feet +--- 15367656 +>>15367403 +You really think anon isn't? +--- 15367665 +>>15367645 +That's homosexuality +--- 15367691 +>>15367403 +Even your mother? +--- 15367698 +>>15367665 +I'm a biological girl +--- 15367761 +because of astrology +--- 15367803 +>>15367698 +That's a good joke but ywnbaw +--- 15367821 +>>15367645 +>i'd rather wait for a nice smart guy to sweep me of my feet +*slides into your dms* +--- 15368057 +>>15367078 (OP) +dumb question. It's because I'm married. +--- 15368316 +>>15367645 +Is a jaded midwit good enough? +--- 15368517 +>>15368316 +jaded is fine, midwit not that desirable + +>>15367821 +silly + +>>15367803 +my chromosomes say otherwise + +I made banana cake just now +--- 15368519 +>>15367078 (OP) +I hate women +--- 15368627 +>>15368519 +I love women +--- 15368630 +>>15367110 +based +>>15367150 +based +>>15368517 +>I made banana cake just now +based +>>15368519 +based +--- 15368732 +>>15368630 +Based +--- 15368746 +>>15367089 +>>15367645 +... B-Brazil? (sorry for bad english) +--- 15368782 +>>15367089 +what's stopping you from jogging 2x a week? +--- 15369357 +>>15367078 (OP) +Unsolvable riddle +--- 15369377 +Who cares really along as you have 1up over someone who actually achieved something, that's all that really matters.. +--- 15369901 +>>15367691 +ESPECIALLY her. +--- 15369904 +>>15368517 +When my mother made that it always got stodgy at the bottom. How does one avoid this? +--- 15369928 +>>15367078 (OP) +I play the long game. Given enough time, the probability of girl sitting on my dick without me having to do anything is 100%. +--- 15369956 +>>15367078 (OP) +>If youre so smart why cant you get laid? +I can get laid, and I do. Guess that makes me pretty smart huh? diff --git a/sci/15367080.txt b/sci/15367080.txt index d799934764621e3e6ae0a8f2b27d7abb9047ced9..33f026c7119537ec513b52decdf26d4dc312bafd 100644 --- a/sci/15367080.txt +++ b/sci/15367080.txt @@ -9,3 +9,72 @@ exp(x) or e^(x)? Left >>15367178 Left for complicated exponentials or inline math, else right +--- 15367223 +/mathbb{Z}^* or /mathbb{Z}^0 +--- 15367297 +>>15367080 (OP) +[math]\mathsf{E}[X][/math], blackboard bold should be for objects and not operators, and [math]\mathbb{E}[/math] in particular is more useful as Euclidean space. +>>15367178 +[math]\exp\{x\}[/math], though for short expressions [math]e^x[/math] is fine too +>>15367223 +[math]\mathbb{N}_0[/math] +--- 15367369 +>>15367080 (OP) +>>15367297 +[math]\mathsf E(X)[/math] +Russian pedagogy wins again. +--- 15367389 +>>15367080 (OP) +Using blackboard bold is ridiculous. +--- 15367393 +>>15367080 (OP) +>>15367178 +Right and right, always. +--- 15367914 +Leibniz vs Newton vs. the other guy??? + +(Euler is like voting for Ralph Wiggum, so he's out) +--- 15367921 +>>15367183 +>Left for complicated exponentials or inline math, else right +That is correct. +--- 15367923 +>>15367914 +Lagrange or Newton is far superior, but I'm biased. My calculus teacher in high school were was a dimwit, and couldn't tell me what "dx" meant, so it just annoyed me, even after undergrad math. +--- 15367927 +>>15367923 +>were was a dimwit +Ugh, that's awkward. I had previously wrote "teachers" plural but then changed it because only one of the dimwits taught calculus. +--- 15368037 +>>15367927 +lol, don't care so much about such mistakes. You gotta chill. +If some anon is smart enough to post about it then so be it, you'll just ignore the dumbass. +--- 15368203 +>>15367080 (OP) +[math]EX[/math] +--- 15368217 +>>15367914 +Del +--- 15368225 +>>15368203 +Wait that's a valid notation? +Holy shit I thought there was something wrong with the rendering in that old pdf in my probability course. +--- 15368248 +>>15368225 +yep, when it's a short expression like [math]EX^2[/math] and there's little possibility of confusion people often leave out the brackets +--- 15368776 +>>15367080 (OP) +E[X] or E(X)? Cov[X,Y] or Cov(X,Y)? Var[X,Y] or Var(X,Y)? +--- 15369452 +>>15367914 +[math]d_{x}y[/math] and [math]\partial_{x} y[/math] +--- 15369600 +>>15367080 (OP) +i or j? +--- 15369639 +>>15369600 +j in EE, i for everything else. +--- 15369736 +>>15369639 +Ok, since you like EE so much here is a bonus question for you +E or W? I have two profs in EE and one uses E to describe energy in band diagrams, the other one uses W. diff --git a/sci/15367220.txt b/sci/15367220.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4018415522d58ae3905e0b85db2a3eb9c15d71fe --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367220.txt @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +----- +--- 15367220 +What is science, and why? +--- 15367225 +>>15367220 (OP) +Your image shows that science is beyond your understanding even if explained to you. +>but it's just a heckin meme! +Shut up lowlife. +--- 15367247 +>>15367220 (OP) +By forcing things and saying "See...it worked. Told you." +--- 15367251 +>>15367225 +>Your image shows that science is beyond your understanding +A hypothesis is exactly what those three denotes. Hunch, intuition, instinctual meta-perception of seemingly unrelated phenomema. + +I dont think youre not a real scientist, POST THY FIELD OF EXPERTISE! +--- 15367331 +>>15367220 (OP) +Science is the fixing of belief by hypthesizing models, deducing their consequences, and testing for them using sensation, by believing in the accuracy of our senses. +--- 15367345 +>>15367331 +The reson why we use science is that other methods of inquiry don’t test against something objective and distributed to everyone, but subjective things like intuitive first principles or authority, that being supported by which being liable to not consistently fix belief effectively because of fundamental unbridgeable disagreements between subjects. +--- 15367387 +>>15367220 (OP) +A dialectic method of philosophical inquiry that applies subjective inductive reasoning and objective deductive logic to an infinite feedback loop of analyzation and experimentation. +--- 15367394 +>>15367387 +>and why +To allow those with agency to explain their personal observations and find common ground with other philosophical agents. diff --git a/sci/15367380.txt b/sci/15367380.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3e3932352ca67d4152d495eec24e0074aa6be341 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367380.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 15367380 +Is it just me or is there an obvious pattern here? +--- 15368349 +>>15367380 (OP) +OAOEOAOEOAOEOAOEOAOEOAOEOAO +"universe" "uni verse" "one verse" + +"human" "u man" "1 mano" "1 hand" (praying hands) +ADN (DNA) + +A E O 3 1 + +Maths. + +ArAb Cursive. + +French Cursive. diff --git a/sci/15367430.txt b/sci/15367430.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..bf2ac14db23daba4bb26655e702101a106538174 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367430.txt @@ -0,0 +1,165 @@ +----- +--- 15367430 +So what IS color? I mean, forget all the astrophysics shit for a second, what is this stuff that we all experience every single moment? +--- 15367435 +Color as an experiential phenomenon is completely subjective +--- 15367464 +>>15367430 (OP) +Color is literally your brain making shit up out of the ether to represent the frequency of waves, same for sound. +--- 15367466 +>>15367435 + +Okay but there are protons hitting cones in our eyes. This sends an electrical signal. Where does the creation of color occur in that process? +--- 15367468 +>>15367466 +It occurs in your brain. +--- 15367470 +>>15367468 + +How? +--- 15367476 +>>15367470 +With electrical patterns bouncing around a network of brain cells. +--- 15367500 +>>15367476 + +Yeah but if color doesn't exist in perception, how do we come to know it? How can our brain generate something that doesn't exist? And how do all our brains come up with the same colors? There must be a physical manifestation of color. +--- 15367504 +>>15367430 (OP) +>color +>all the astrophysics shit +This is the level of the average consciousness obsessed retard and it's the new normal on /sci/ +--- 15367525 +>>15367500 +>How can our brain generate something that doesn't exist? +Have you never taken psychedelics? Go into a pitch black sound proof room while on shrooms and you'll see all the nonsense your brain creates. I would say based on gut feeling that the earliest stages of perception in evolutionary history was mostly just random outside of light and dark and whatever actually worked to keep the organism alive got passed down and refined until it gives a perception of reality that works for said organism. The universe itself down to it's most primordial just seems to be a big ol random number generator from what I can tell. +--- 15367534 +>>15367525 + +Do born-blind people see or understand color though? Or see anything in their mind? +--- 15367536 +>>15367476 +What is special about brain cells? +--- 15367543 +>>15367534 +I don't believe they do understand but apparently with the sense of touch they can perceive structure. Like in their minds they can understand what form a cube takes. + +>>15367536 +They can manipulate electricity into creating patterns. Patterns give shape and form. +--- 15367552 +>>15367500 +Light frequencies, which we perceive as colors, with the exception of magenta which is just our brain mixing two ends of the spectrum, exist independently of our experience, and thus can be detected by all sorts of optical devices. + +We come to know it and can agree upon it because we all have similar eyes with similar cones and rods, and somewhat similar brains. Instinctually, we evolved to learn colors to distinguish edible foods, and blood, from the green grass, like most omnivores. +--- 15367553 +>>15367543 +All cells "manipulate electricity" and have patterns, shapes, and forms, not just brain cells, there are noncellular things that do all that as well since those qualifiers are so vague as to be catchall. +--- 15367560 +>>15367553 +Well yeah, so I guess that doesn't make them particularly special but it's how they create perception. +--- 15367583 +>>15367560 +That happens in all cells, so why just networks of brain cell instead of networks of cells and why doesn't your definition apply to computer networks of processing cells? +--- 15367587 +>>15367543 + +Interesting. I wonder if they could draw what they think a shape looks like. +--- 15367589 +>>15367552 + +But why so few colors then? Why didn't we evolve to color-code basically everything differently? It would be incredibly useful to have the world color-coded for different objects. +--- 15367592 +>>15367587 +depends on the shape +--- 15367598 +>>15367589 +We are pretty mid in the visual color range among the animal kingdom, but we don't evolve to the best we evolve to good enough to survive and reproduce and our bodies have invested in other useful ways you can discern different objects since the main problem with color is it goes away when the sun goes down and the lights go off. +--- 15367606 +>>15367589 +Because many objects have the same color wavelengths, so we must use other optical data, to delineate, for instance, between a pool of blood and an apple. + +The human eye can distinguish between literally millions of colors, but there's only so many words. (I mean seriously, half the words we use for colors are foodstuffs.) + +>>15367587 +Pic related. +--- 15367610 +>>15367583 +>so why just networks of brain cell instead of networks of cells +Brain cells are cells though. If other cells were doing what brain cells did, they'd be brain cells. Evolution encourage the division of labor because it's beneficial for multicellular organism. + +>why doesn't your definition apply to computer networks of processing cells? +Dunno, the rigidity of hardware might have something to do with it. +--- 15367617 +>>15367610 +>Brain cells are cells +Why are you saying they are the only cells that can manifest perception when the eye cell and every other cell also does everything you describe? + +> If other cells were doing what brain cells did, they'd be brain cells. +You just said every cell does all the things a brain cell does, so does that make a heart cell and a liver cell, a photoreceptor cell, and every other cell also a brain cell too? + +>rigidity of hardware +Modern electronic hardware does everything you described. +--- 15367626 +>>15367617 +>You just said every cell does all the things a brain cell does +Where did I say this? +--- 15367633 +>>15367626 + +>>15367560 +>Well yeah, so I guess that doesn't make them particularly special + +in response to >>15367553 +>All cells "manipulate electricity" and have patterns, shapes, and forms, not just brain cells, there are noncellular things that do all that as well since those qualifiers are so vague as to be catchall. +--- 15367641 +>>15367633 +Right, I agreed all cells manipulate electricity and have patterns, etc. I didn't say they do the same exact thing brain cells do. +--- 15367643 +>>15367466 +Not all protons are created equal +--- 15367646 +>>15367641 +That is what is meant by saying there is nothing special about brain cells compared to cells in general regarding perception. +--- 15367654 +>>15367643 + +?? Explain. Of what are protons fundamentally comprised? +--- 15367667 +>>15367654 +NTA, but photons are fundamental. They, however, have different energies and frequencies. The numerous of cones and rods in our eyes are stimulated by different frequencies. + +Protons are made of up and down quarks, but given the subject, I assume he typoed "photons". +--- 15368308 +>>15367470 +it's not that easy in the hard problem of consciousness +--- 15368317 +>>15367589 +human eyes have receptors for 3 different colors so to speak but other animals can see more colors. what may look like two plants of the same color to us could be distinguished as two different plants by an animal that can see 4 colors. However there is a price to be paid for seeing more colors +--- 15368390 +>>15368317 +humans can be tetrachromatic though +--- 15368443 +>>15368390 +source? +--- 15368471 +>>15368443 +spotted the homo who doesn't think XX people count as human +--- 15368524 +The set of colors can be generated by the set of 3 prime colors (blue green and yellow) + +There is however a fish that has no "cones" in it's eyes (apparently) so the only set of prime colors it has is white and black, it cannot however be anything other than white and black because again there are no cones in the eye. + +Just like we can't perceive higher dimensions, we can't imagine new colors +--- 15368559 +>>15368443 +https://www.healthline.com/health/tetrachromacy +(Or just google and pick your poison.) + +They know the gene for it, and it *should* be only females that have the gene, but some men can pass tetrachromatic tests too (often those in art fields, interior design, and the like). They usually describe the extra colors in the test as a series of "off browns" that most humans cannot distinguish between. +--- 15369963 +>>15367430 (OP) +A mental heuristic for perceiving changes in light frequency. +--- 15369983 +>>15368559 +I thought tetrachromats picked up colors that were in the UV range? +like black ants and beetles appearing colorful, certain trees and plants being more vivid or colorful diff --git a/sci/15367436.txt b/sci/15367436.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..25ac490d4e29ba8a7aafce6700443577d43ba802 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367436.txt @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +----- +--- 15367436 +How do I sort numbers along a vector? +Simplest case in 2D I have a vector [0, 1] (straight up) + +And some points [0, 7], [2, 3], [0,1]. +How do I sort them into [0, 1], [2, 3], [0, 7] based on the vector direction? +--- 15367478 +std::sort(v2ds.begin(), v2ds.end(), [](V2D a, V2D b) {return atan2(a.x, a.y) < atan2(b.x, b.y);}); +--- 15367494 +>>15367478 +That wouldn't extend to 3D. +--- 15367503 +>>15367436 (OP) +>[2, 3] +is not "along" your vector though. +--- 15367530 +>>15367436 (OP) +I solved it. It is just the dot product thank you fellow retards. +--- 15367539 +>>15367530 +Then you are talking about sorting by the projection scalar, which anyone could have answered for you if you'd worded it less ESL. + +>sort numbers along a vector? +the fuck does this even mean. Numbers are already sorted along a vector, it's called the number line. +--- 15367544 +>>15367539 +Not my fault you're better at reading math than basic english nerd. +--- 15367881 +>>15367539 +Don't forget you're talking to a retarded codemonkey. +All such retards should be banished from earth and go chill with god or whatever the fuck. +>>15367544 +Reading math is more useful than reading "basic english". If you could do so we would have avoided this thread altogether. diff --git a/sci/15367456.txt b/sci/15367456.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f61d3017ea9c5d6be4355b89c39148f31d3c44c2 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367456.txt @@ -0,0 +1,25 @@ +----- +--- 15367456 +Where are all the Aliens !? +--- 15367461 +few and far between +--- 15367465 +>>15367456 (OP) +Stuck on their home planets. +No EM signals because in geological terms, the time between discovery and depletion of the non-renewable resources required to produce them is extraordinarily short. +--- 15367511 +>>15367456 (OP) +Kill Aliens. Behead Aliens. Power armour kick an Alien into the concrete. Slam dunk a Little Green Man into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Xenos. Defecate in a Martian’s food. Launch UFOs into the sun. Stir fry Greys in a wok. Toss Aliens into active volcanoes. Urinate into an Alien’s fuel rod. Judo throw Aliens into a plasma cutter. Twist Greys heads off. Report Aliens to XCOM. Karate chop Aliens in half. Step on disgusting Alien eggs. Trap Aliens in quicksand. Crush Aliens in the trash compactor. Liquefy Aliens in a vat of acid. Probe Aliens. Dissect Aliens. Exterminate Aliens in the gas chamber. Stomp Alien skulls with mech-powered boots. Cremate Aliens in the oven. Lobotomise Aliens. Mandatory abortions for Aliens. Grind Facehuggers in the garbage disposal. Drown Aliens in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Aliens with their own ray guns. Kick Reptilians down the stairs. Feed Aliens to alligators. Slice Aliens with lightsabers. TOTAL ALIEN DEATH. +--- 15367623 +With Terry A. Davis +He got a space alien and is building the third temple. +--- 15367680 +Where are all the jannies !? +--- 15367942 +>>15367456 (OP) +Elon Musk hasn't found any evidence of them even with all his dealings with space. +--- 15369037 +All the aliens are on /pol/. +--- 15369059 +>>15367456 (OP) +I am an alien. This post is written from our (Motions ?). No one will detect what I did. Kek. diff --git a/sci/15367473.txt b/sci/15367473.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8c40f1bbdfab2d322830e2be09b1c7a569cbde4f --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367473.txt @@ -0,0 +1,3278 @@ +----- +--- 15367473 +The absolute state of JUICE - edition + +Previous >>15365033 → +--- 15367475 +Starship will succeed inshallah +--- 15367477 +>>15367475 +so will the QI thruster demo on Transporter-8 +--- 15367480 +>>15367477 +what ever happened to his darpa funding and the light loop? too much tape outgassing? +--- 15367484 +propellant is stored in the balls +--- 15367487 +starship WILL complete its entire mission. nasa skittle trannies seething +--- 15367489 +Do they have no shame? +--- 15367491 +So how did the cameras on pioneer and voyager and shit work? I genuinely have no idea but somehow they were able to take photos and transmit the data +--- 15367493 +>>15367484 +anon wasnt joking... +--- 15367501 +>>15367491 +They scanned the film line by line, there's actually a pretty good animation of how it's done on a Pioneer in one of the For All Mankind episodes +--- 15367506 +>>15367489 +>Chinese +>Shame +Only when it comes to losing face. +--- 15367508 +>>15367501 +Sweet. It used magnetic tape right? And then, I assume, scanned it and just beamed the corresponding electrical signal line by line? I wonder how it did color. It’s so fascinating. I’m sure they needed to mass autism everything and I can’t imagine deep space-grade cameras were a simple thing to design back then +--- 15367509 +>>15367467 → +I'm so glad this edit is getting a lot of mileage +--- 15367513 +>>15367485 → +does anybody have a link of confirmed Ariane 6 launches? +--- 15367516 +>>15367509 +sneed +--- 15367520 +>>15367489 +>powerpoint slides +its fucking nothing.jpg +--- 15367524 +>>15367513 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_6#Launch_contracts_and_scheduled_flights +--- 15367531 +one day spacex will want to expand starship launch sites to other countries. only then will the EU pounce and try to take control of spacex as much as possible, just like they do with tech companies. +--- 15367532 +>>15367473 (OP) +Why is the camera quality so poor? It's not like the ESA can't procure decent ones +--- 15367540 +>>15367489 +let them have fun cargoculting +--- 15367545 +>>15367532 +space is hard +--- 15367547 +>>15367532 +A payload going to Jupiter will always have to cut some corners when launched from shit like Ariane 5. +--- 15367549 +>>15367531 +thats why he should cut off the EU. bad place to launch from anyways, he will probably put launch sites in equatorial countries so probably places like india, indonesia, africa if they can find people there, etc. +--- 15367551 +>>15367513 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_6#Launch_contracts_and_scheduled_flights +--- 15367555 +>>15367491 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4UgZBs7ZGo [Embed] +--- 15367565 +How can Europe be so pathetic? I really don't understand. They have everything to be a superpower, all the resources and funds, yet a single South African turboautist with some money comes along and absolutely destroys them. Quite sad. +--- 15367569 +>>15367428 → +This will happen to Amazon Kuiper too haha +--- 15367572 +>>15367540 +Cargo cults and industrial espionage are quite different. +--- 15367576 +>>15367569 +>be Oneweb +>on the verge of bankruptcy +>swallow your pride +>contract out launches to your rival +>everything goes smoothly and you now have a working, profitable megaconstallation +>Be Amazon +>think you're too good for that +>contract out to meme vehicles that have never launched +>generate 3D renders of base stations to drum up hype +>5 years later have no constellation and no revenue +>sue NASA just because you can +--- 15367590 +>>15367572 +>industry espionage +they went and found unity assets and put stickers on them lol +--- 15367599 +>>15367576 +The biggest thing we’ve learned from BO’s failures is that there really is a limited pool of aerospace talent that can get things done. It seems like outside of SpaceX and certain teams at NASA, most aerospace work is done in this weird bubble where progress is always a year or two away, and where anything that does get done takes years of bureaucratic drudgery done by teams that are way too large and cumbersome. +--- 15367603 +>>15367599 +It's a field that has become pathologically risk averse over half a century. That's why (almost) everything moves super slow and not in the break shit to see what happens and learn from it way. +--- 15367609 +SpaceX had already begun BFR development by the time FH flew, and talked about it openly for years. Will ULA/Ariane announce their super heavy lifters as soon as Vulcan/A6 fly? +--- 15367620 +>>15367480 +DARPA funding is what led to an American company ground testing the hardware in Virginia and flight testing it. McCulloch is also continuing to do lab work of his own to refine the thruster design theory. The light loop was dropped in favor of the paired capacitor plate design derived from Becker & Bhatt's paper. +--- 15367625 +>>15367609 +ULA doesn't build their own engines and BO has no plans to fuck themselves over on New Glenn so they'd have to acquire Aerojet Rocketdyne or start engine dev from scratch. +--- 15367630 +>>15367609 +Nope +They don't think a heavy lift will be profitable +--- 15367631 +Not only does it impede movement there are also dynamics to worry about. Vote for atmosphere removal. +--- 15367632 +>>15367609 +no +--- 15367635 +>>15367631 +I'll vote yes but only if we make cloning research legal too +--- 15367637 +>>15367565 +He destroyed as well all the other american oldspace. +--- 15367642 +>>15367565 +He destroyed everyone to be fair. Literally only China and India are standing because they just do state launches. And we know that even if China can try and keep up with the cadence, they are about tapped out, and worse, the amount of tonnage they hurling up into space is only a fraction of what SpaceX is. + +It's just a galactic mogging. +--- 15367650 +The Russian general that spit on Musk's shoes when he tried to buy some ICBMs from them must be rolling in his grave right now. +--- 15367659 +>>15367609 +BFR has a clear purpose - Mars colony and Starlink. +"Eurostarship" has nowhere to go unless they fund a colony on Moon/Mars, some sort of giga constellation or beamed solar array. +There's no political will to do these. Why? I genuinely don't know. +>>15367565 +my personal theory is that none of the top politicians in EU are really visionaries in any way whatsoever +they are all spineless burocrats who get fired upwards for incompetence in their home countries +Also all creative energy they might have is lost in institutional friction between 27 countries and hundreds of institutions +--- 15367661 +>>15367489 +>Ofering Star X +>The luxury returning rocket you deserve now +>plesant orbits to enjoy much +>only 300 ¥ +--- 15367662 +>>15367630 +it definitely wont if spacex gets there first +--- 15367663 +>>15367630 +They know they can’t build something as big as Starship for as cheap as Starship. When your business model has been “slow and safe” for the last 60 years (yes I know ULA isn’t that old but they are historically an amalgam of old space) you simply can’t flip a switch one day and just randomly weld sheet metal into a Saturn V +--- 15367666 +a starship space station will be about as expensive as a yacht. will rich people start making the switch? +--- 15367668 +>>15367565 +>>15367637 +SpaceX's secret is vertical integration. One company in one country building their own engines and flying their own payloads (Starlink) was needed to make reuse economical. Oldspace contractor madness was never going to compete. +--- 15367669 +>>15367653 +I will die on the “ITS was the best design” hill, but my FUCK does starship look great. I imagine by the time construction gets more automated and less artisan it will look even sexier +--- 15367670 +>>15367659 +well there is no political will to do USA government built super heavy lift vehicle either really, or much of anything space related +some parties are excited to use Starship now that it seems to be close to functioning, but generally people don't give a shit about space or even know about it +--- 15367671 +>>15367663 +>You simply can’t flip a switch one day and just randomly weld sheet metal into a Saturn V +You can, but first you need faith of the heart +--- 15367674 +>>15367671 +Kek very true +>>15367653 +This is the coolest rocket ever made just look at it +--- 15367675 +>>15367666 +well, how much is fueling costs? also is there a market for that? ONLY SpaceX could make them +--- 15367677 +>>15367666 +How many rich people are there that would be willing to put down the tens of millions to build their own space station and the tens of millions to go to and from it? +--- 15367679 +>>15367677 +they pay billions for yachts sir. tens of millions is pocket change +--- 15367684 +>>15367671 +>have you seen my hat? +--- 15367687 +>>15367677 +Branson has proved you can be a billionaire and be retarded with your money. And there’s probably hundreds of middle easterners with way too much money and free time who would be willing +The problem is a) it’s not really a flex the same way a car or yacht is—as your kind of just up there by yourself +b) even a cheap starship is expensive as fuck to fuel. And that’s not even counting the money you would need to pay SX to maintain your station when you aren’t there. Someone will need to track it, keep up with its vitals for life support and power consumption, reboost it, etc. and no one is going to do that for free +--- 15367689 +>>15367684 +>I miss my hat +--- 15367690 +>>15367687 +just branson has proved this? how much does bezos pay you. +--- 15367693 +>>15367666 +Gravitics StarMAX and the Airbus space station will probably cost more, how much are you thinking of when you say a yacht? Not a super-yacht like bezos has which is 0.5 billion I guess? +the cheapest are like 100k, there is a very large range here +--- 15367697 +>S25 never flying +>No confidence at all in S24 reentering +>S26 and S27 breaking up during reentry +>S28 being the first Starship to have a serious reentry attempt +>B7, B9, B10 all splashing down +what went so wrong? +--- 15367701 +https://twitter.com/VickiCocks15/status/1648302405186887680 +--- 15367703 +>>15367690 +Bezos? +--- 15367706 +>>15367666 +I think they'll be more like luxury hotels than yachts. And in terms of cost, once you factor in maintenance and transportation to the station, it will be much more expensive than just about any yacht and harder to sell if they ever get bored of it or need the cash. +--- 15367709 +>>15367690 +The pay is quite good, actually. Say what you will about my employer, but he has objectively done more to uplift this industry than scammy Branson +--- 15367710 +>>15367701 +https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1648380024402198530 +--- 15367711 +>>15367693 +the saudi kings are fucking trillionaires at this point, and the most expensive super yacht is like $1.5b. they can afford it, especially since prices will come WAAAYYYY down before even the first manned launch. $1m fueling costs is only double a megayachts $500k, spacex wants the cost per engine down to $250k so, and sheet metal only costs so much +--- 15367712 +>>15367701 +Not trying to be rude, but who cares? + +We knew they are going to redo the attempt on the 20th, and we also know that Musk has made it known to the team in charge of fuel that he will fire every last one of them if they don't have enough fuel on hand. +--- 15367713 +>>15367689 +--- 15367714 +>>15367697 +nothing, this was the plan from the beginning retard. theyre attempting the most powerful fucking rocket in history theyre being cautious to not destroy everything theyve built around it>>15367709 +--- 15367719 +>>15367701 +Wouldnt mind putting my cocks inside Vicki if you know what I'm implying +--- 15367721 +>Le Falcon Neuf +berger has outdone himself +--- 15367722 +>>15367547 +It especially sucks when you consider that our launch capabilities are going up so quickly that SpaceX could very easily get something out there before JUICE even if it only started on making the payload just now, but nobody will send anything like that for a while because "they're already sending a mission, why send another right now?" +I mean, the Dragonfly is getting to Titan in 2034, and that's only if everything goes according to schedule (which it obviously never does). Imagine if SpaceX just said fuck it and made their own Titan payload, launched it via starship and got it there in '27. +--- 15367723 +>>15367549 +>equatorial countries +Like French Guiana kek? +--- 15367724 +>>15367669 +ITS was the most kino indeed. +--- 15367726 +>>15367711 +I'm not doubting it will happen, just more interested when exactly +--- 15367727 +you are now remembering the 2016 space conference musk questioning +--- 15367728 +>>15367713 +OH MY GAH! +--- 15367729 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1wcilQ58hI [Embed] +DOS DIAS +--- 15367731 +>>15367729 +The penultimate day 2: even more penultimator +--- 15367732 +>>15367701 +>All that pollution into the air just to bring a gorillion trucks carrying propellant for EVERY SINGLE LAUNCH ATTEMPT +lmao, so much for saving the planet +--- 15367733 +>>15367729 +I'm glad I upgraded my laptop. can watch in 4k +--- 15367734 +>>15367719 +It's a man.. +--- 15367737 +>>15367671 +Does anyone have that post from L2 with some guy saying that the water tower couldn't be possible because if it was possible then every conversation about what is and isn't possible would be forever ruined by "That time in South Texas." +--- 15367738 +>>15367727 +I remember that was scrubbed from the record +--- 15367739 +>>15367726 +The Saudis already bought a private Dragon 2 launch. +--- 15367740 +>>15367687 +>a) it’s not really a flex the same way a car or yacht is—as your kind of just up there by yourself +Not really. You could always just bring up more people and stay for a shorter amount of time. +>b) even a cheap starship is expensive as fuck to fuel. +It's really not. +>And that’s not even counting the money you would need to pay SX to maintain your station when you aren’t there. Someone will need to track it, keep up with its vitals for life support and power consumption, reboost it, etc. and no one is going to do that for free +Tracking it is easy. You can restock it in the same flight as you go up to it. You don't need to reboost it if you just put it in a higher orbit. And considering that it'll just be a small luxury thing it's not like you'll need the extra mass that Starship can bring to a lower orbit. These costs are negligible. The upfront cost of building it and getting it to orbit isn't that bad. Needing to pay for a full Starship flight each time you want to go to and from your space station is the real problem. +>>15367706 +Yeah, maybe we'll see a big station built in a higher orbit with it being more like its own resort. That would greatly alleviate a lot of the concerns and problems as you'd be able to bring people up to and down from the station hundreds at a time rather than needing to use a Starship for just a few people at a time. Basically leveraging scale to make it practical. Sort of odd to think that a luxury Stanford torus is more feasible than small private space stations. +Maybe it would be comprised of two counter-rotating donuts so that it could have a section jutting out from the middle that would be a zero gravity area. +--- 15367741 +>>15367734 +Good god I take it back in that case +--- 15367744 +>>15367670 +>there is no political will to do USA government built super heavy lift vehicle +What's SLS then? We don't have even that heap garbage. HLS exists because SLS exists. +there's a huge will to go to Moon (even if the real reason is to keep the lights on for Shuttle boomers) +>generally people don't give a shit about space or even know about it +you have launches from Florida (and other places too) and sense of national pride in being first on the Moon and have shit like Star Wars and Star Trek that feeds the interest further. Russian only sense of pride is Gagarin and WWII. That's their religion. +But for Europe, spaceflight is something that happens entirely outside of Europe and "therefore it's not important and not our concern". +People are very ignorant about things that don't concern them or at least things that aren't visible. + +I believe we need European launch site in continental Europe, first and foremost. +And it had to be somewhere where people actually live and can see and hear it, if things were to improve. +--- 15367745 +>>15367744 +nigger sneed +--- 15367746 +>>15367745 +yeah +--- 15367749 +>>15367744 +Europe is not a country thoughever and therefor lacks any sense of real unity. I don't care if Frenchies or Germoids have a launch site/space program. ESA is not my agency. +--- 15367750 +>>15367749 +where you from? +--- 15367753 +>>15367740 +people would want to do something in space, perhaps have the same luxuries they would on a normal resort now just with a different view, with the added bonus of all kinds of new activities enabled by microgravity (or perhaps differential gravity), sports, flying around etc +for old people it might even be a relief to live their last days in less than 1g perhaps, who knows +A starship based space station is going to get boring just being there after a number of weeks for most people if you have really nothing to do than float around, probably way faster than a few weeks +people get used to things very quickly +--- 15367754 +>>15367750 +Finland (not the stampcuck) +--- 15367755 +>>15367751 +>WAAOOWW ITS JUST LIKE DA BOOKS!!! I FUCKING LOVE SOIENCE!!! +--- 15367759 +>>15367754 +are you the twink that was reporting in for the launch thread with your boyfriend? if you are gtfo, if not hello +--- 15367760 +>>15367712 +well for one now there is a pretty good idea how much fuel vs oxidizer is vented and so on, looks like not much methane, but a shitload of nitrogen was used +--- 15367764 +>>15367722 +>"they're already sending a mission, why send another right now?" +To mog and humiliate ESA, especially the french +fuck the french +--- 15367768 +from the pics of future SH & their installed hardware, which one might be the first to be caught? +--- 15367769 +>>15367744 +>But for Europe, spaceflight is something that happens entirely outside of Europe and "therefore it's not important and not our concern". +There's some pride in France about Ariane, there are also pride about national european astronauts (nobody cares about astronauts of other european countries tho); But in the end there's only so much public interest space can create without an indigenous Manned program or REALLY flashy missions like mars rovers (kek exomars). + +>I believe we need European launch site in continental Europe, first and foremost. +>And it had to be somewhere where people actually live and can see and hear it +Kinda mutually incompatible isn't it? +It's Either norway or northern Scotland if you want an actual large scale polar/high latitude launch center; and nobody live there, I guess scotland can appeal to the british national pride, but Britain has been uninterested in launchers since the 70s and Orbex and Skyrora are only starting to change that. + +Then there's Azores and Canaries (one Pegasus actually launched there once), but that has the same problems as French Guyana, it's too far away. + +That only really leaves Cornwall/Brittany as places with decent inclination for polar launches that already had some experience with space launches (Launcher one for the former, French ICBM tests for the later) that also are decently populated and driveable. + +Mediterranean coast (in spain and italy) was also considered back in the 60s, but it's WAY too built up now. +--- 15367771 +>>15367749 +Unironically this, people are utterly fucking retarded if they think there exist some unified European identity within Europe. +--- 15367773 +>>15367722 +>dragonfly +what a fucking miserable probe. wont even visit the lakes which is the whole reason titan is cool. i hate nasa so much bros +--- 15367774 +>>15367755 +now that you mention it, you're kinda right. cool +--- 15367779 +>>15367739 +thats a far cry from a permanent private space station +also, its not only about the cost of the space station itself, you would need to have reasonably cheap transit there +Lets say you could make some cheapo space station and launch it with Starship for 50 mil, but starship is not human rated for years and you would be forced to pay 50mil a pop to get to the station each time +I don't think many people would be that interested +--- 15367782 +>>15367749 +you don't matter and so you caring is irrelevant. We need the frenchies and germs to care so they pay up. +>>15367744 +a southern spain launchsite over the med or bulgaria/romania site over the black sea would be sick, but that shit's never ever happening. +--- 15367784 +>>15367773 +if it goes to the lakes it might pee in the lake and seed it with earth life forms, forever altering the biology of titan. henceforth we will never ever be able to distinguish between earth life and titans (shut the FUCK UP about genetic history) +--- 15367785 +>>15367771 +all i see from euros on this site is everyone at each others throats except for the nordic countries. +--- 15367788 +>>15367744 +> I believe we need European launch site in continental Europe, first and foremost. +Where? Launch from spain over the mediterranean or something? +--- 15367790 +>>15367753 +>A starship based space station is going to get boring just being there after a number of weeks for most people if you have really nothing to do than float around, probably way faster than a few weeks +I would never get tired of the observation bubble +--- 15367791 +HLS is cool, SLS and NASA are not +--- 15367795 +>>15367749 +this pretty much, another finnish person here +--- 15367798 +>>15367790 +yeah, but most people are brainlets +--- 15367799 +>>15367732 +>lmao, so much for saving the planet +Fuck the planet, is full of trannies, women and jews anyway. +--- 15367800 +>>15367790 +observation bubble? holy fuck imagine floating around in there just staring out at the cosmos for days on end. fuck man that would be awesome. +--- 15367805 +>>15367782 +>you don't matter and so you caring is irrelevant +the germs or frenchies don't care either if it's some soulless pan-european shit program +--- 15367807 +i want to be a starship space station engineer once being an astronaut is common +--- 15367809 +>>15367732 +hey man, we tried to build a gas extractor on site but the FAA said it would kill the planet +--- 15367810 +>>15367749 +>>15367795 +Yeah but you guys are finns, you're naturally asocial. +--- 15367812 +>>15367791 +>forced perspective to hide the HLS and Gateway size disparity +wew +--- 15367814 +>>15367805 +The people and politician don't care either, but only a few countries can pay for it +--- 15367815 +>>15367744 +>I believe we need European launch site in continental Europe, first and foremost. +And it had to be somewhere where people actually live and can see and hear it, if things were to improve. +Kek no, unless you live in the country with the launch site you will not give a single shit. A rocket launching from southern Spain/northern Sweden/wherever will be no different for the average person in Europe to one launching from Florida. You won't see this improve because nobody buys the garbage European identity that EU had been so desperate to shill. The only ones that considers being European an identity is ironically Americans. +--- 15367817 +>>15367812 +didnt even notice that, theyre making gateway look like a literal space station instead of onions cuck orbital capsule +--- 15367822 +>>15367815 +>nobody buys the garbage European identity that EU had been so desperate to shill. +Only good thing the EU has been trying to do. +--- 15367823 +huh, the amount of finns in this general is noticeable, maybe even concerning +--- 15367825 +>>15367823 +you know why there are so many finns on 4chins? +--- 15367826 +>>15367823 +Finns and being desperate for attention online. Name a more iconic combo. +--- 15367827 +>>15367771 +The people (in a very loose sense of the word) who actually believe in it are either soulless bugmen administrators or Frogs/Krauts who envision a federalized EU under their hegemony. Half the reason European countries want the US in NATO is them not wanting to defer to another European country on defense. +--- 15367828 +>>15367791 +--- 15367829 +>>15367822 +european countries are nation states with their own languages and cultures, they're simply don't need or want a new identity (this will change soon, with a truly pan-european EMIRATE) +--- 15367831 +>>15367532 +Because it's just an engineering camera, it's not one of the main instruments. Note that NASA doesn't even use such cameras, they could not take an image of Lucy's solar panel deployment issue because unlike ESA they don't have monitoring cameras. Personally I think it's a missed opportunity. Thanks ESA for the atmospheric photos. +--- 15367832 +>>15367489 +The most fun part about it is that all these chink startups are never going to actually make anything. +--- 15367833 +well didnt this just become /pol/ fast. lets get back to spaceflight. WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN GOING ON AT SPACE SYMPOSIUM NOBODY HAS ANSWERED THIS +--- 15367842 +>>15367826 +i met a finn irl in arizona. he was very ugly but a fun, kind person +--- 15367849 +>>15367833 +a big part of it seems to be about networking, but I guess its like any other symposium, companies and government organizations talking about their projects, meeting parties that might be interested in working together, informing about the stuff they are doing +so networking/information event, maybe some deals made +--- 15367850 +they are currently on the OLM doing stuff +--- 15367854 +>>15367807 +--- 15367860 +>>15367854 +Truly THE kino EVA suit +--- 15367863 +>>15367831 +I fucking love rosetta +this one mission made sure I will shill decade long gravity assist trajectories till I die +--- 15367865 +>>15367473 (OP) +>>15367532 +We had a WHOLE FUCKING DISCUSSION last thread on why those are just engineering cameras and yet you retards insist on "hurr why does it look bad???? juice bad" +I wish there was a /astronomy general/ here so that you retards won't even bother with it +--- 15367867 +Pluto is not and has never been a planet +--- 15367868 +>>15367823 +Stop noticing. There is no conspiracy. Consume stamp. +--- 15367870 +Daily reminder that short stay missions are absolutely haram +--- 15367871 +>>15367865 +Astronomy is a subset of spaceflight +--- 15367873 +>>15367831 +Kino and spooky pic +--- 15367875 +>>15367870 +Blows my mind that this elusive idea of “Mars landing eventually” has been around since like, before Apollo 11. And to this day NO ONE has put a human in LEO for longer than a year and a half +--- 15367878 +>>15367722 +SpaceX will most likely never bother with probes due to their colonization autism. +Every time someone suggests probes here on /sfg/ they are hit with "NOOO PROBES ARE A WASTE WE NEED TO COLONIZE MARS" +At least Starship will be very good for sending probes made by others and skip the gravity assist period. +--- 15367882 +>>15367850 +fixing the valve perhaps? +--- 15367884 +>>15367871 +but quite a lot of people here hate astronomy +--- 15367885 +>>15367659 +europe including the uk is broke and what little money we do have we spend on welfare and dystopian 2030 climate ambitions. it's a retired oap continent just waiting to die. +--- 15367889 +>>15367882 +you mean the one elon pissed in? yeah probably +--- 15367891 +>>15367878 +I mean they might just do one for the memes or something to demonstrate deep space starship capabilities +like the roadster with Falcon Heavy +something flashy so its sure to be noticed by all relevant parties, maybe get some hype from the general public +--- 15367893 +>>15367863 +>rosetta +>10 years of gravity assists +>bepicolombo +>7 years of gravity assists +>JUICE +>8 years of gravity assists +euros fucking love gravity assists, man +--- 15367895 +>>15367788 +yeah, Spain over Mediterranian or Romania/Bulgaria over Black Sea (provided the locals won't steal the stage zero to scrapyard) or bring in the Duch and make artificial Island for the actual pad where to explody bits go. +Cape Canaveral is basically downtown. It doesn't have to be in a complete middle of nowhere (must not be). +>>15367815 +People actually travel to Spain or Greece for holidays +nobody goes to fucking Guyana ever +--- 15367896 +https://twitter.com/ChenrySpace/status/1648377695577817110 + +> Here's a useful chart of upcoming ESA projects. +--- 15367898 +https://twitter.com/Maxar/status/1648315167409831936 +--- 15367899 +>>15367884 +I have great respect for the OGs who had to change photographic plates on top of a mountain in winter. The modern ones who sit at screens in heated rooms drinking coffees and exchanging troonshine recipes on their discord, not so much. +--- 15367900 +>>15367896 +Please for the love of fuck just kill Vega already +--- 15367901 +https://twitter.com/KSAT_Kongsberg/status/1648317971083804674 +--- 15367903 +>>15367895 +Other Euros going to Spain and seeing a rocket launch is literally no different than going to the US and doing the same, just cheaper. +--- 15367906 +>>15367891 +At most I think Musk could commission a probe from an institution that has a history of doing them. SpaceX makes technology for propulsion, manned spaceflight and comsats, but as far as I'm aware they never developed any scientific instrument. +--- 15367910 +A bunch of spacesymposium livestreams, one starting in under an hour (International partnerships, sounds pretty boring) + +https://mainenginecutoff.com/live-at-space-symposium-2023 + +https://twitter.com/WeHaveMECO/status/1648318525872955393 + +LEO Commercialization in 24h might be interesting + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DA_yKuZo9M [Embed] +--- 15367911 +>>15367899 +Yeah i’m in the same boat. What I call the golden age, or the time when large telescopes began to be constructed and a serious effort was made to categorize everything that could be seen and studied beyond just the local planets and stars, was cool. Now it’s a bunch of blue hairs. I had a lot of dealings with astroons because the geology and astronomy departments physically overlapped at my university and they are all fucking crazy SJWs +--- 15367917 +>>15367899 +You just confirmed what I said. At most you care about the person, not the data. +--- 15367918 +>>15367896 +>A Mogensen Huginn +the what? +--- 15367920 +>>15367898 +lol why?? +--- 15367924 +>>15367687 +I doubt that foreigns will be allowed to buy Starships outright for quite some time. +--- 15367926 +>>15367918 +name of one of odins two ravens, its apparently about a danish astronaut going to ISS on dragon +pretty gay name for a mission that is just about going to the ISS + +https://www.esa.int/esatv/Videos/2023/04/Huginn_Mission_-_Andreas_Mogensen_Training/Andreas_Mogensen_Astronaut_ESA_Soundbite_ENGLISH + +https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Human_and_Robotic_Exploration/Introducing_Huginn + +> Andreas is scheduled to fly on a SpaceX Crew Dragon as part of Crew-7 to the International Space Station, but is also ready as backup pilot for Crew-6. He previously spent 10 days in space on a Space Station mission called ‘iriss’ in 2015. +--- 15367928 +>>15367911 +When you look at a picture of a nebula, do you think of "I bet this was processed by a sjw" instead of thinking about the actual picture? +--- 15367929 +>>15367928 +Yes +--- 15367930 +https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1648360981737734146 +--- 15367934 +https://twitter.com/Thales_Alenia_S/status/1647978757137870850 +--- 15367936 +>>15367929 +And this is how pathetic /space fags/ are. +It's not different from the retards who look at a Saturn V and think "but it was designed by natzies!!!!!" +--- 15367937 +>>15367930 +Nascar [math]\unicode{x1F480}[/math] +--- 15367938 +>>15367489 +If they can actually recreate a f9 heavy I'd be impressed. +--- 15367939 +>>15367926 +the mission already has a name, crew-7? I guess the naming/logo department needs jobs too I guess.. +--- 15367940 +https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1648362694171590656 +--- 15367941 +>>15367930 +it looks even worse than the teaser. this POS better cost 2 million or less +--- 15367945 +>>15367936 +you support nazis? +--- 15367946 +https://twitter.com/Axiom_Space/status/1648356616960462849 + +https://spacenews.com/axiom-announces-new-government-human-spaceflight-program/ + +> COLORADO SPRINGS — Axiom Space has introduced a new program to allow countries to create human spaceflight programs without needing to develop their own infrastructure or other capabilities. +--- 15367947 +>>15367936 +Yeah alright you raise a good point, but unlike the faggots who cry about WvB every time he’s brought up I keep my mouth shut whenever I see a photo from Webb or Hubble or whatever. I don’t make hating the “other team” for brownie points part of my own identify. It’s just something I think about whenever astronomy is brought up +--- 15367948 +>>15367940 +damn... this is what innovation looks like +--- 15367950 +>>15367863 +>>15367863 +This one was also cool. The colour is added, but JUICE will be able to take real colour images for it's flybys. +--- 15367951 +>>15367940 +--- 15367952 +>>15367946 +don't bloody think itar allows it +--- 15367953 +>>15367936 +gb2r +--- 15367954 +>>15367940 +Does SpaceX do any gay shit like this at space symposium? +--- 15367956 +>>15367930 +Looks like a modern redesign of the Apollo rover but with bigger fenders which seems... unwise. + +The NASCAR sponsorship doesn't bother me. Sounds like they'll be partnering with NASCAR for broadcast rights, which is neat. +--- 15367957 +>>15367936 +Go back to fixing your pajeet code astroon +--- 15367958 +>>15367946 +Translation: give us money and we take your nationals to space for that sweet sweet national prestige. +--- 15367959 +>>15367928 +If someone is prepared to lie about reality for political reasons that does taint my evaluation of their work and I'm unapologetic about that +--- 15367961 +>>15367946 +>In the base tier, Axiom provides countries with advice and insight, and gives those countries priority access on upcoming missions. The second tier enables research and development activities by counties. The third tier offers human spaceflight missions on a regular basis. A fourth tier offers countries the ability to co-develop parts of Axiom’s station. + +>The first country to join the program is Azerbaijan, which will work with Axiom on satellite solutions and inspiring students to pursue space research and development activities. New Zealand and Uzbekistan are also participating, as well as Rakia Mission, an Israeli space education and research organization involved with the Ax-1 private astronaut mission to the ISS a year ago. + +>Italy is another nation working with Axiom through a partnership that dates back to 2018. An Italian astronaut is slated to fly on Axiom’s Ax-3 mission to the ISS, currently scheduled for late 2023. Two astronauts from Saudi Arabia are flying on the Ax-2 mission in May. + +> Private astronauts make up the second part of the market. “They want to go. They find us,” he said. “It’s not about convincing them they should go. It’s about how you get them to go.” + +>The third, and potentially biggest, part of the market is corporations. “That’s the future of Axiom, where the value really gets created, like the internet,” Bhatia said. + +> The challenge there is convincing companies that they can conduct research and development in space that will be profitable. “There’s a big jump from the science experiments that have been done in space and reports on the potential return to a CEO of a Fortune 100 company being able to go out to Wall Street analysts and say, ‘I’m going to make this big investment,” he said. +--- 15367964 +>>15367946 +>>15367961 +Holy kek +The fast food of "space programs" +--- 15367965 +https://spacenews.com/nasa-releases-architecture-for-human-exploration-of-the-moon-and-mars/ + +>Speaking at the 38th Space Symposium April 18, NASA Deputy Administrator Pam Melroy rolled out a 150-page document describing its plans for the initial series of Artemis missions to the moon and how they fit into a set of more than 60 objectives for its long-term plans for human missions to the moon and Mars. + +>“The architecture concept review details plans for early human exploration of the moon’s south pole,” she said. “It provides more definition for plans through Artemis 4 and sets the stage for the first crewed missions to Mars.” + +>The document describes how the various programs in development fit together to carry out those missions, such as the Space Launch System, Orion, Gateway and Human Landing System. Those programs are linked to specific objectives, functions and use cases for those missions. + +>Along with the architecture document, NASA released several white papers to explain aspects of the architecture, such as the use of the near-rectilinear halo orbit around the moon and the Gateway that will operate in it. + +the pdf: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20230002706/downloads/M2MADD_ESDMD-001(TP-20230002706).pdf + +the architecture page with 6 white papers: +https://www.nasa.gov/MoonToMarsArchitecture +--- 15367967 +>>15367964 +It's more like a microwave dinner +--- 15367969 +>>15367965 +150 pages to say "hitch a ride with SpaceX"? +--- 15367971 +>>15367965 +> “I think they provide a very succinct description of why we’re doing what we’re doing, and especially how the Artemis missions to the moon are going to reduce the risk for future Mars missions,” Melroy said of the white papers. + +> Other NASA officials have noted tweaks to earlier plans for later phases of Artemis, such as a shift from a single “base camp” at the lunar south pole to several sites that could be visited on later Artemis missions. + +> + +Jim Free, NASA associate administrator for exploration systems development, said at an April 17 briefing that, because of changing lighting conditions at the south pole, missing a launch window for a particular site might delay a mission there by months. “We could maybe have two or three sites to go to that help our science diversity,” he said. + +Is this about multiple permanent bases or just multiple landing locations? +--- 15367973 +>>15367945 +No +My point is that I don't care who designed the rocket, or who took the picture. I only care about the rocket or the picture. +--- 15367979 +>>15367732 +Starship is about leaving the planet. Not saving it. +--- 15367981 +>>15367870 +the disgusting politicians and bureaucrats that decide on such things would launch several Mars flyby missions first before even considering spending 50 years and $100 billion on on outdated technology to put the first pedophile and black quadriplegic on Mars for about 10 minutes of taking selfies +--- 15367982 +>>15367744 +>I believe we need European launch site in continental Europe, first and foremost. +So SSTO horizontal takeoff spaceplanes? +--- 15367983 +>>15367884 +I like astronomy in general, I hate astronauts that think their astronomy is more important than progress in spaceflight (a la whining about starlink for instance) +not only is it annoying because obviously we need to progress in space tech, but also because they are so short sighted +this will have positive effects in astronomy as well through space telescopes, but these fucking idiots whine about some lines on their pictures +who gives a single shit +I would demolish every telescope on earth if I had to keep Starship and related technologies progressing +--- 15367985 +>>15367971 +Multiple landing locations. Artemis is turning into "Apollo 2" because nobody wants to spend the money on permanent infrastructure. +--- 15367991 +>>15367920 +GEO satellite TV +seems kind of outdated at this point but I guess they still have a market +sounds like something Starlink would eat up easily though + +> DISH TV Adding to Fleet with New Maxar Satellite Order +>April 18, 2023 +>WESTMINSTER, Colo.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Maxar Technologies (NYSE: MAXR) (TSX: MAXR), provider of comprehensive space solutions and secure, precise, geospatial intelligence, received an order for a direct broadcast satellite from DISH, designated ES XXV. This geostationary (GEO) communications satellite will be operated by DISH and deliver content across North America. +>ES XXV will be built on the proven Maxar 1300TM series platform at the company’s manufacturing facilities in Palo Alto and San Jose, California. ES XXV will be equipped with a high-power, multi-spot beam payload, allowing DISH to provide high-quality content to its customers. A high-resolution render of the spacecraft is available here. +>“The GEO market remains important, and Maxar’s experience delivering value for our customers continues to be a key focus,” said Chris Johnson, Maxar’s Senior Vice President and General Manager of Space. “We offer scalable platforms to support a variety of missions, and we’re proud to continue that legacy with this new order.” +>ES XXV joins a fleet of Maxar spacecraft in orbit. Since 1999, Maxar has manufactured 11 satellites for DISH TV’s fleet, including several of the largest commercial satellites ever built. +--- 15367996 +>>15367954 +I don't think they are attending, haven't seen their name anywhere when I skimmed through the program yesterday +--- 15367999 +>tfw actually going to Huelva to see the Miura 1 launch +It's going to be underwhelming af +--- 15368000 +>>15367982 +SSTO no, stage and a half maybe +--- 15368002 +>>15367950 +how long does one of those slingshots last? All the videos show the probes just whizzing past the planet but presumably it takes a couple of hours, right +It's a shame crewed missions need to take as little time as possible, being on board something doing a gravity assist must be so cool. +--- 15368004 +>>15368000 +>stage and a half +that's a TSTO anon +--- 15368006 +>>15367996 +they dont even need to attend, everyone knows who they are and wants to ride with them theres no need for 'networking' if you are literally the entire future of spacelaunch +--- 15368009 +https://twitter.com/RDhaniswara/status/1648367417159221248 Why does this guy draw his rocket girls with Down syndrome +--- 15368010 +>>15367620 +>paired capacitor plate design +The fucking Mach Effect drive that Woodward guy is doing? +--- 15368011 +>>15368000 +Does Europe even have domestic in-air refueling capability or do they rely on the USAF for that? +--- 15368012 +>>15368009 +>not posting the image +kys im not going to your twitter page +--- 15368013 +https://twitter.com/spacegovuk/status/1648291056364953601 + +lol the bongs are there too +--- 15368017 +>>15367653 +>reflection of the tower on Starship +Kino + +Stainless steel is kino +--- 15368018 +>>15368013 +https://twitter.com/hack_a_sat/status/1648406690373550082 + +and the poles +--- 15368022 +>>15367983 +But then, why do retards hate probes so much here? +They post a picture of an engineering camera for the sake of claiming that a mission is bad. +--- 15368024 +Full and rapid reu-ACK! +--- 15368025 +How do I scam retards out of money to fund my space company? Elon makes it look easy but I don't have any friends or family with money. + +Plot-Twist, I'm going to actually use the money to go to space like I said I would. +--- 15368026 +>>15368022 +I don't hate probes, I hate Europeans +--- 15368028 +>>15368010 +It's similar, but the model behind QI seems to produce much better thruster designs than the Mach Effect hypothesis. +--- 15368029 +>>15368022 +Like, I can't fucking understand the autists here. +People went crazy over a Neuralink stream that has fucking nothing to do with spaceflight, and when people try to talk about an actual probe they get shitted on. +--- 15368032 +>>15368024 +Theyre going to make oxygen and nitrogen on site. That’s a HUGE portion of the “problem” solved right there +--- 15368036 +>>15368022 +it was a fucking joke you sperg +also the problem is the general lack of ambition, not the probes themselves +--- 15368039 +>>15368032 +>Theyre going to make oxygen and nitrogen on site +Source???? +--- 15368040 +>>15368011 +There's the A330 MRTT yeah, the A310 MRTT; and a bunch of C-135 and KC-767 +--- 15368041 +>>15368004 +I think a stage should supply velocity to qualify as a stage, so no. Imagine if we could teleport simple substances like rocket fuel and oxidizer to a launch vehicle on its ascent - would we call the transmitter on the ground a stage? +--- 15368044 +>>15368039 +Just google it this is common knowledge +--- 15368047 +>>15368036 +How could the probe developers have any ambition if there is no way to could actually realize their ambitions? SLS will not be used for probes and Starship will take some years before it can be used for this purpose. I'm almost sure JUICE started being developed before BFR was a thing. It's not the probe's fault it has to work around limitations that are beyond what the developers are currently capable of. +--- 15368049 +>>15368028 +Well, I hope it works, ChatGPT moment for spaceflight right there +--- 15368051 +>the stack vented methane with a GHG impact equivalent to 33 transatlantic flights. + +Elon sisters... +Musk men... +--- 15368053 +Retards here saw the first Io pics by JUNO and said "why is it so bad???? juno is shit" while those were distant flybys and they are going to get much better latter in the year. +The theme here is always retards being completely ignorant of something they complain of. +--- 15368055 +i love venu- AAAAAAACCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!!! +--- 15368056 +https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/acr22-wp-mars-transportation.pdf + +vertical lander option (all-chem) , hmm... +--- 15368058 +https://twitter.com/Maxar/status/1648093238417317895 +--- 15368062 +I'm disappointed there isn't a HUGE USA/American flag on the side of Starship. +--- 15368063 +>>15368051 +elon...your response?? +--- 15368064 +>>15368062 +They want to wait for the ones that probably won't blow up to do that. +--- 15368065 +>>15368056 +>goodfellas_popsci_brainmush.png +--- 15368066 +https://twitter.com/Maxar/status/1647956618666201088 + +I thought Maxar was just about earth imaging satellites, I guess they are becoming a more general satellite bus company +starting to be a few players in this arena +--- 15368067 +>>15368064 +lol +--- 15368069 +>>15368065 +this is one of the moon to mars architecture whitepapers +--- 15368072 +>>15368066 +All I know about them is they have a big contract with [redacted] to spy on [redacted] +--- 15368073 +>>15368066 +gotta diversify somehow +--- 15368075 +>>15368069 +replied to wrong person +--- 15368077 +>>15367945 +Yes. +--- 15368085 +>>15368055 +>I love this mars biodome so mu- +>cracking noises +>AAAAACCCCCKKKK +--- 15368094 +>>15368056 +They're labeling it as cargo only because Starship+Sabatier needs to prove ISRU on Mars to be capable of crew-return. +--- 15368101 +Ok guys, my 'orbital factory' idea was shot down pretty rudely in another thread. Can someone tell me why this is a bad idea? + +https://qz.com/2163811/us-plans-tech-to-refuel-satellites-and-build-factories-in-space +--- 15368105 +girls go to venus to get some penis +boys go to mars to chase fat arse +--- 15368109 +>>15368105 +chads go to jupiter to work out in the high gravity +--- 15368110 +https://youtu.be/qzKGN5ccvsI [Embed] +wow, Anthony Colangelo is this like the Geoff Keighley of the space industry +--- 15368116 +How do you solve fuel problem, needing 40 trucks for each attempt doesn't look sustainable. +--- 15368118 +>>15368116 +it is sustainable if it launches once per month +--- 15368124 +>>15368109 +I thought they went there to get stupider? +--- 15368126 +>>15367973 +Disgraceful answer +--- 15368128 +>>15368109 +cucks go to uranus to get your anus +--- 15368129 +>>15368101 +Orbital factories only make sense for delivering to orbital destinations. Benoz is unironically right in that you need huge spinhabs full of people already in orbit to justify building a full industrial base in space. +--- 15368133 +>>15368006 +so space symposium is for the desperate and the losers +--- 15368138 +>>15368009 +LOL +--- 15368144 +>>15368137 +For now, wail until anons here realize that needing +50 trucks of propellant every time they need to load up the rocket is not sustainable in any way. +--- 15368145 +>>15368009 +Because he's Indonesian and they all have Downs IRL. +--- 15368148 +>>15368056 +they cant even show a picture of her anymore +--- 15368150 +>>15368110 +I hate bureaucrats +--- 15368156 +Starlink mission in 16h +SpaceX can't keep getting away with it + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpoMcjTvylk [Embed] +--- 15368158 +>>15368012 +--- 15368172 +NSF starship update soon, might have some new info (probably not) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG181ptQQxY [Embed] +--- 15368174 +>>15368144 +just build a pipeline or two +--- 15368175 +>>15367377 → +>1g +anybody who wants to provide Mars colonists with anything more than .38g while in transit is an idiot, is trying to make things harder from an engineering standpoint, wants them to suffer from gradient and/or motion sickness side effects more severely, doesn't want the colonists to be pre-adapted to Mars gravity when they arrive, and THEY'RE NO FRIEND OF MINE +--- 15368176 +>>15368172 +How much do I need to donate to get some sick updates?? +--- 15368182 +>>15367965 +18 page executive summary (too big to embed as a file) + +https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/acr22-wp-mars-transportation.pdf +--- 15368186 +>>15368126 +cult of personality is for low animals +--- 15368189 +>>15368174 +And messing with the habitat of the piping plover? Yeah, good luck convincing the FAA. +--- 15368191 +>>15368144 +I'm just a happy camper! Rockin' and a rollin'! +--- 15368193 +>>15368186 +Wrong. +--- 15368195 +>>15368051 +>POV you're an eleven year old girl +--- 15368199 +>>15368189 +KILL THEM ALL +--- 15368202 +>>15367609 +Avio teased some starship looking upper stage vehicle from an earnings report a while ago +--- 15368206 +>>15368182 +--- 15368207 +>>15368193 +He's right. Elon is based, his fans are cringe. +--- 15368210 +>>15368206 +Missing "banging hot alien babes" +--- 15368223 +>>15368207 +--- 15368224 +https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/acr22-wp-why_nrho-the-artemis-orbit.pdf +--- 15368229 +>>15368210 +How long until I get a spinhab gf, spacechads? +--- 15368231 +>>15368206 +>economy at the center +Based +--- 15368234 +https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/acr22-wp-why-lunar-south-polar-region.pdf +--- 15368235 +https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/acr22-wp-gateway-the-cislunar-springboard.pdf +--- 15368243 +>>15368229 +being a spinhab fan makes you a chud not a chad +--- 15368250 +>>15368235 +i want to see the chinese put up a gateway of their own +--- 15368251 +How long will Yenisei development take, if it happens? +--- 15368253 +>>15368243 +but even chuds get a gf on the spinhab, it'll be in the rules +--- 15368254 +>>15368235 +they really avoid showing HLS together with anything else lmao +--- 15368255 +>>15368251 +>roscosmos +ngmi +--- 15368260 +>>15368253 +(me on the left) +--- 15368262 +>>15368254 +It embarrasses them to no end. +--- 15368266 +ITS OOOOVVVVVEEEERRRRR +--- 15368269 +>>15368253 +>even +only +--- 15368271 +>>15368266 +TWO WEEKS +--- 15368272 +>>15368266 +ITS OVER!!!!!!!!!! +--- 15368274 +>>15368266 +the fuck man +--- 15368276 +>>15368266 +NOOOOO I WAS GOING TO SMOKE A DANK FATTY ON 420 AND WATCH THE LAUNCH DUDE +--- 15368277 +>>15368266 +Hell yeah, now I can go! +--- 15368279 +>>15368156 +https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1648402404961062912 + +so its second generation starlinks again (Starlink v2 Minis) +--- 15368285 +>>15368266 +TWO +WEEKS +--- 15368288 +>>15368285 +>mfw +--- 15368290 +>>15368266 +What did Hitler ever do to deserve taking away his birthday present like this? +--- 15368293 +https://youtu.be/OsS6VDEZoPY [Embed] +wow loro garve +--- 15368295 +Fixed it +--- 15368296 +>>15368290 +He was too good for our world. +--- 15368299 +>>15368293 +talking about starship and refilling it right now +--- 15368302 +>>15368293 +talking about what will happen between artemis 3 and 4, the big gap means starship will develop and be used a lot outside of the governments control +--- 15368303 +>>15368302 +INDUSTRY PUSHING POLICY + +LETS GOO +--- 15368306 +>>15368295 +>small tiny plot of land where any testing means evacuating the whole area and a failure of 5000 tons of fuel will destroy everything + +ok lol + +Why didn't these idiots build in a state with SPACE and then barge to florida +--- 15368307 +>>15368148 +They’re getting closer +--- 15368310 +>>15368307 +what the FUCK +--- 15368312 +>>15368302 +It's a contract ride, right? Once it's delivered the astronauts back to the cuckshed orbit, SpaceX should be free to do whatever they want with it? If they had enough dV left to drop it back on the moon surface, maybe they could charge NASA to keep using it? +--- 15368314 +nasa doing a commercial mars architecture when? 10 years? +--- 15368318 +Do you want French AJ-260? +--- 15368319 +>>15368296 +--- 15368321 +What are the Falcon 9 clones being currently developed? +--- 15368322 +>>15368314 +>nasa doing a commercial mars architecture when? 100 years? +ftfy +--- 15368324 +>>15367751 +What's that one sci fi book where a bunch of Crusaders discover a rocket ship that landed on Earth, precede to kill the AYY's, and then reverse engineer it to build spacecraft of their own; preceding to then launch a holy crusade across the fucking galaxy (and winning)? +--- 15368330 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG181ptQQxY [Embed] + +update now, full of annoying soibois though +--- 15368331 +>>15368324 +The High Crusade by Poul Anderson +--- 15368333 +Wouldn't it be physiologically impossible for humans to live long term on other planets that don't support a gravity that is at least close to being 1g? +--- 15368334 +>>15368324 +Poul Anderson, The High Crusade +--- 15368341 +>>15368333 +what a ridiculous thing to say +--- 15368343 +>>15368341 +>t. disgusting untermensch Belter +--- 15368344 +>>15368333 +they would turn into sludge gradually +--- 15368350 +>>15368266 +I assure you Musk is fuming right now, screaming at his employees, headbutting the table, and firing everyone left and right, all because they can't launch on le funny 4/20. +--- 15368356 +>>15368350 +Talk of the town is that Musk is actually losing interest in Starship +--- 15368358 +>>15368306 +Total wetlands death +--- 15368361 +>>15368343 +Belters will be spinchads unlike that dopey tv show portrayed +--- 15368362 +Why do retards think we are going to the moon before mars because we intend to LAUNCH from the moon because it has lower gravity? HUH??? DO YOU THINK A ROCKET WILL JUST MAGICALLY APPEAR ON THE LUNAR SURFACE? DO YOU KNOW THAT IT TAKES MORE DELTA V TO REACH THE MOON THAN MARS??? +--- 15368363 +>>15368356 +I believe you +It's too small for mars +--- 15368364 +>>15368350 +dilate tranny +--- 15368365 +>>15368350 +it's really over for him this time, isn't it? I wonder if Felon Husk and Drumph will share a cell together, would serve them both right if they did +--- 15368368 +>>15368362 +Nobody thinks this +--- 15368369 +>>15368356 +no wonder he couldn't answer any questions about whats next after OFT during the twitter spaces, he's not even thinking about that at all + +twitter is his biggest mistake imo +--- 15368371 +>>15368356 +musk lost interest in everything. now he wants to do AI. dumbass chasing fads +--- 15368374 +How realistic is the Arwing /sfg/? +--- 15368376 +>>15368344 +like you can't do that here on earfff +--- 15368378 +>>15368368 +they just said it at space symp. i thought these people were smart +--- 15368379 +>>15368374 +The Arwing design is basically driven by low poly hardware capacity on the special SNES cartridges and on the N64. It's not realistic at all. +--- 15368383 +>>15368333 +No, probably not. As long as there was some level of non-negligible gravity children would develop "fine." "Fine" being okay for that planet's gravity and below. Any space-fairing human civilization that were to exist long term and not only on very Earth-like planets would require either spin-grav stations as the backbone of the civilization or very advanced genetic engineering that could make humans develop correctly regardless of the level of gravity. Barring that, the civilization would effectively degrade into a caste system ordered by the level of gravity you were born and raised in, with people from higher gravity being higher on the pyramid and people from lower gravity being lower on the pyramid. +--- 15368384 +>>15368369 +newfag. he's always been like this. https://youtu.be/9Zlnbs-NBUI?t=193 [Embed] +--- 15368387 +https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1648435471633231875 + +> April 20 is definitely out for the Starship flight test, per two sources. No confirmation on whether it slips just a day or further. For more details I will reefer you to SpaceX’s social channels. +--- 15368389 +>>15368384 +Oil rigs is one thing, the questions were about the next step after this OFT, and he couldn't even answer that +--- 15368391 +>>15368389 +Yes. It's the same thing. He has an extreme aversion to not focusing on the immediately important. +--- 15368393 +>>15368383 +WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF ALL THE DEFORMED CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN MY HEAD!?!? +--- 15368394 +>>15368383 +High g space dwarfs ruling over spindly 0g space elves, based +--- 15368399 +Hey look, our guests from Hellas basin have arrived! +--- 15368400 +The amount of words written about low-g environment's effect on humans on here is insane. +Every single one of them is provably not worth reading given there exists no evidence. +--- 15368401 +>>15368387 +it's over for felon +--- 15368402 +>>15368394 +it'll be just like Lord of the Rings BUT IN SPACE! +--- 15368403 +4/20 TFR has been withdrawn. + +2 weeks until the launch. +--- 15368406 +>>15368371 +holy tranny seethe +--- 15368410 +>phallic +>boys and their toys +lol Lori +--- 15368412 +>>15368403 +--- 15368413 +>>15368387 +Se terminó. +C'est fini. +Es ist vorbei. +--- 15368416 +STARSHIP TALK +--- 15368417 +t-two more weeks guys cmon i believe +--- 15368418 +>>15368416 +piss off piggy +--- 15368420 +If you had a time machine, time paradoxes aside, when and where would you travel back so that the state of spaceflight today could be the best? I'm tempted to answer when N1 started development, so that I can personally hand Korolev the failure reports for all the N1 launch attempts we had. Or maybe to 2002 and give Elon a flash drive with the entire documented history of SpaceX so that he doesn't commit the same mistakes and hyper-accelerates the Mars mission. +--- 15368423 +Two weeks is back on the menu boys +--- 15368424 +>>15368420 +post it on reddit instead +--- 15368427 +real news tho... + +>Axiom Space has introduced a new program to allow countries to create human spaceflight programs without needing to develop their own infrastructure or other capabilities. +>The Axiom Space Access Program, announced April 17, offers countries a tiered approach to conducting research on the International Space Station or Axiom’s future commercial space station, as well as flying their own astronauts. +>In the base tier, Axiom provides countries with advice and insight, and gives those countries priority access on upcoming missions. The second tier enables research and development activities by counties. The third tier offers human spaceflight missions on a regular basis. A fourth tier offers countries the ability to co-develop parts of Axiom’s station. +https://spacenews.com/axiom-announces-new-government-human-spaceflight-program/ + +also sad that two of their first goverment customers, azerbaijan and uzbekistan, are brutal dictatorships +--- 15368430 +>>15368400 +Putting lowered strain on muscles and bone will make them weaker. This can be compensated for in adults by exercise. Babies cannot exercise. They will develop differently with weaker muscles and bones. The cause of that lessened strain being lowered gravity does not magically make the problem disappear. There is evidence for this. +--- 15368431 +>>15368427 +>azerbaijan and uzbekistan +>Saudi Arabia + +I really am not a fan of this shit desu, gives Axiom a bad image +--- 15368435 +https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1648438126166302720 + +> Next opportunities would be April 21, 23, and 25, per updated Temporary Flight Restrictions. +--- 15368437 +>>15368430 +>Babies cannot exercise +nor do they here on Earth, nor do they need to to develop into children, who do get exercise and do play and do climb and do lift things and do ride bikes and do swim who then develop into adults who do exercise and do loft weights and do... +--- 15368446 +>they aren't able to fix it until Thursday +--- 15368450 +AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK +MY BALLS +SO +BLUE +--- 15368451 +>>15368417 +It never left, all else was just an illusion. +Two weeks bros, rejoice +--- 15368453 +>>15368446 +I think the problem is high wind shear, might block friday too and we need to wait for next week +--- 15368463 +>>15368266 +This is a world where nothing is solved. Someone once told me, time is a flat circle. Everything we've ever done or will do, we're gonna do over and over and over again. Every two weeks. +--- 15368464 +>>15368406 +holy fanboy guzzle cum +--- 15368470 +>>15368464 +>guzzle cum +typical tranny projection +--- 15368474 +>>15368437 +they will never develop into children if they get fucked up as a fetus +--- 15368480 +>>15367723 +God I hope so, African cyberpunk is peak +--- 15368481 +>>15368356 +And that's a good thing, for SpaceX +--- 15368483 +>>15368453 +Why don't they ever launch rockets in a silo like ICBMs. I've never understood this +--- 15368484 +>>15368437 +And? They'll develop to the gravity of the world they're on. They won't be able to go to higher gravity worlds for any serious length of time. +--- 15368485 +>>15368480 +>french guiana +>africa +--- 15368486 +>>15368483 +The wind is in the sky you abolute retard +--- 15368487 +>>15368430 +Ok but a counter point to that, powered exosuits will also be more practical in lower gravity +--- 15368488 +>>15368483 +Because the problem is wind, not trying to protect your rocket from a random slav attack? +--- 15368491 +>>15368485 +If its filled with bantus, it is africa, regardless of geography +--- 15368492 +>>15367930 +doesn't look stock to me +--- 15368493 +>>15368487 +How is that a counterpoint? +--- 15368495 +haven't visited sfg for a long time can anyone tell me if anything interesting happened with the JWST? last i heard from it they got it into position. +--- 15368496 +>>15368255 +Just because they’re Roscosmos doesn’t mean they can’t at least try +--- 15368498 +>>15368495 +It smashed into the Moon. Coincidentally hit the haley’s comet crater +--- 15368499 +>>15368493 +They won't need to be stronger biologically cause they will all be in exosuits +--- 15368501 +>>15368495 +No the science is settled and also proprietary. +--- 15368502 +Weather report : + +-Friday 21/04 : Very cloudy , 151km/h at 11.5km (very high winds) +-Sunday 23/04 : Partially covered , drops of rain , 181km/h at 11.5km (very VERY high winds) +-Monday 24/04 : Cloudy and rainy , winds of 145km/h +-Tuesday 25/04 : Pretty clear skies , no rain , Winds at 161km/h +-Wed 26/04 : Partially clouded , no rain , Winds of 150km/h + + +Looks pretty grim +--- 15368503 +>>15368502 +weather says 30km/h winds how are you getting 150 +--- 15368505 +>>15368502 +Saturday? +--- 15368507 +https://twitter.com/SierraSpaceCo/status/1648325625617305601 + +So much shit hghhapening +--- 15368509 +>>15368503 +reading comprehension fail +--- 15368510 +>>15368503 +Pic +>>15368505 +No TFR for that day +--- 15368512 +>>15368207 +>all cretans are cringe +--- 15368514 +>>15368507 +>https://twitter.com/BSPenetrator/status/1648371707604877334 +Alright, which one of you guys is this +--- 15368518 +>>15368507 +>inflatables +couldn't care less lol +--- 15368520 +>>15368499 +Exoskeletons don't solve the puny heart trying to pump blood uphill in far higher gravity problem +--- 15368527 +>>15368520 +Sure it can, like a flight suit does for fighter pilots +--- 15368530 +Im so sad . No F1 til 28th and no starship til at least next week . Grim +--- 15368532 +>>15368191 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl2AM3j3dIw [Embed] +--- 15368535 +>>15368527 +They squeeze temporarily while undergoing high g maneuvers not for days on end +--- 15368536 +Wot ?? + +A TFR for a Starship launch attempt on April 20 has been restored. +--- 15368539 +>the restored TFR for April 20 has been rescinded again + +What the fuck is going on man +--- 15368541 +>ALL STARSHIP TFR'S DELETED +--- 15368542 +>>15368387 +fuck you eric +--- 15368543 +>>15368474 +WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE (fucked up as a fetus) THAT LIVES IN MY HEAD!?!? + +they're subjected to zero gravity as best as a human woman's body, evolution, and the embryonic sack can provide +--- 15368546 +2 more days. +--- 15368547 +Just chill out and see what shakes out in the morning. +--- 15368550 +4/20 is back on the menu. Extended to 90 minutes in duration. + +Elon gets what he wants. +--- 15368551 +>>15368495 +some cool pictures came out now and then +The data will start to become public by July of this year. +--- 15368553 +>>15368550 +Wouldn't be much of an oligarch if he didn't. +--- 15368554 +>>15368484 +OK, sure doctor, so I guess this is true for you right now then isn't it? How affected is your quality of life right now, right on this world you were born on? Would it have been merciful for us to have used contraception to prevent your birth because of this debilitation? +--- 15368564 +what did happen now to the launch date? +--- 15368565 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1wcilQ58hI [Embed] +--- 15368566 +WE'RE BACK https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_3_3446.html +--- 15368568 +ARE WE GETTING OUR 4/20 LAUNCH OR NOT +--- 15368570 +>>15368510 +153 km per hour? Seriously? +--- 15368571 +>>15368554 +If our species lived on many worlds which had significantly higher gravity than Earth and that was our regular state then I would consider my circumstances unfortunate, but I would not want to retroactively undo my birth. +Your logic is not applicable to our future. We have the ability to proactively and preemptively prevent those unfortunate circumstances from happening, so we should. +--- 15368573 +>>15368566 +lmao what is going on +--- 15368576 +it's over +>we're back +it's over +>we're back +it's over +>we're back +it's over +>we're back +it's over +>we're back +it's over +>we're back +--- 15368579 +>>15368568 +https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-test + +20th +--- 15368581 +Elon said a couple of days ago . B7 is outdated . They worry about autogenous presurization and engine out capability. B9 is way way better . They need to get B7 out the way ASAP . + +It the worst case scenario B7 is scrubbed and B9 will start its test campaing , resulting in a delay of about a month +--- 15368586 +>>15368581 +They'll launch B7 just to see it blow up. Only real risk is it destroying the pad. +--- 15368588 +>>15368571 +Do you ever think about anything except this problem that currently exists only in your head, deformed fetus bro? Is there any safe g level that exists in your mental creation? Is .38g in the "safe zone"? It certainly should be, or do you imagine yourself leaping a thousand feet in the air on Mars, and floating through the airlocks like you're suspended on a wire? Maybe single handedly lifting up a Starship and flinging it at the ghastly thin as a stick 10 ft tall zero-muscle Martians as they pursue you? When did this all start? +--- 15368589 +>>15368581 +and then b9 will be outdated in favor of b11 etc +nah +SpaceX is sick of Osborning themselves I think. They want some flight data. +--- 15368595 +>>15368588 +What the hell are you talking about? +>Is there any safe g level that exists in your mental creation? +~1g +Everyone should be able to travel to every other colony. There shouldn't be a gravitational caste system. It's that simple. +--- 15368598 +>>15368568 +since it either happens or it doesn't I'd say mathematically the odds are 50/50 +--- 15368599 +i want a starship space station now +--- 15368602 +>>15368595 +>There shouldn't be a gravitational caste system +ohhhh, the fantasy is a "gravitational caste system" one, don't worry Indiafen, we won't let them do that to you again +--- 15368603 +>>15368602 +Again, what the fuck are you talking about? +--- 15368604 +>>15368589 +>Osborning +That's not even what that means, faggot. +--- 15368606 +>>15368510 +Based windy user +--- 15368607 +>>15368604 +it's mildly related. +>let's not launch this one because the new better one is around the corner +is similar to +>let's not as consumers buy this one because the new one is just around the corner +the English language is great because we can verbify and fuck around with words, fuck you +--- 15368610 +>>15368588 +cringe +--- 15368614 +>>15368610 +redd*t +--- 15368616 +>>15368607 +Nobody is buying boosters you absolute doomer idiot, and nobody is somehow holding off booster purchases because the current one is a bit old. That's why Osborne has nothing to do with this, and you are a complete faggot. +--- 15368622 +>>15368032 +How though? You can't just extract aerospace grade O2 and N2 from the air +--- 15368631 +i should get a seat on the first Dear Moon mission instead of anyone else as im more important than anyone +--- 15368633 +>Grimes was at starbase +I thought they broke up +--- 15368636 +Unironically why don't we have space colonies already? +--- 15368640 +>>15368622 +It isn't that easy in atmospheric fractional distillation +--- 15368641 +>>15368595 +>What the hell are you talking about? +the deformed fetus/gravitational caste system horror-fantasy you have in your head, I think I've made myself pretty clear honestly +--- 15368643 +>>15368633 +Haven't you listened to twitter? She hates him just like his valid trans daughter and Musk bad +--- 15368650 +>>15368645 +--- 15368651 +>>15368641 +Yeah man, a Loonie will adapt to 6x the gravity he's lived in all his life easily. I often go on walks with a 800 lb backpack myself +--- 15368653 +WHY IS NO ONE ELSE LANDING ROCKETS +FUCK +--- 15368654 +>mfw i lived in a part of the world where its 0.99g +guess im retarded now +--- 15368655 +>>15368653 +new shepard +--- 15368657 +>>15368633 +she's the mother of the future martian viceroy. +--- 15368658 +>>15368653 +there's no grift in it +grift is just as important a force of nature as gravity +--- 15368661 +>>15368654 +That's why people at the equator are dumber. +--- 15368662 +Designed a rocket, how did I do? +--- 15368663 +>>15368651 +yes, this sort of nonsense, exactly +--- 15368666 +>>15368662 +why is there no common bulkhead +--- 15368670 +>>15368666 +Cost savings, please understand. +--- 15368671 +>>15368662 +you need to get this to Musk ASAP, the future of mankind depends on it, don't be dissuaded by locked doors or small-minded security personnel, it's too important to be delayed by any of that +--- 15368680 +>>15368645 +>>15368647 +This sort of inflatable heat shield is cool because it gives most of the benefits of a spaceplane in terms of rapid reuse while also avoiding the tile problems (the entire shield is one modular part which can be swapped out and refurbished on a separate cadence) and the dry mass of full wings and landing gear. +--- 15368681 +It's all coming together...Can't file an injunction i you don't know when it's launching. +--- 15368683 +>>15368356 +talk of the town is also that you are flaming faggot with a prolapsed anus +--- 15368685 +>>15368570 +Winds get real fucking intense at high altitudes +--- 15368686 +>>15368175 +>motion sickness +is a side effect of shit genes and can be trained out in most cases but the most biggest ingred degenerates +--- 15368689 +>>15368650 +--- 15368695 +>>15368514 +Based +--- 15368697 +>>15368402 +Too late, someone already published The Hobbit but in space + +twice +--- 15368698 +>>15368622 +Well shit good luck getting it from Mars then! +--- 15368699 +>>15368666 +Nice try satan but you should know that an orgasm sucks the oxygen out of the room; they can’t share a bulkhead +--- 15368705 +>>15368622 +>You can't just +>aerospace grade O2 and N2 +bait +--- 15368710 +>>15367945 +Of course. +--- 15368711 +>>15368686 +>but the most biggest ingred degenerates +--- 15368714 +>>15368705 +>aerospace grade O2 and N2 +I hear that stuff comes in a mylar bag and is sold to NASA by the gram. +--- 15368715 +>>15367790 +>paint chip strikes the observation bubble +>I am tired of the observation bubble! +--- 15368726 +>>15367551 +>one launch per year for the next 15 years +--- 15368730 +>>15367599 +It has nothing to do with talent and everything to do with how an organization puts its talent to use. In aggregate, engineers are fungible. If a large company isn't producing value it isn't because its engineers aren't good enough +--- 15368731 +we need more destinations in space +--- 15368735 +I applied to three space companies today +that brings the total to like 40 +I hate job searching +--- 15368739 +>>15368735 +the job market a shit even in good times +--- 15368742 +>>15368690 +>Juice reward mechanism +(you)s +--- 15368748 +>>15368705 +> he doesn't know isotopic purity is vital to rocket engines +ngmi +--- 15368751 +>>15367945 +yes +--- 15368752 +/sfg/ is getting off track and mentally drifting into the abyss, discuss how this could have saved the Shuttle from foam strikes and burned up astronauts, GO... +--- 15368760 +Yenisei launch status? +--- 15368762 +>"The intention would be to complete development by early 1964 with the firing of not +more than 8 rounds, at a rate of approximately 3 per year’. (There was a curious +British usage of the time which referred to the launches as ‘rounds’, rather as if +they were shells or bullets.) " + +From a book about the blue streak missile +funny +had the British gone to space first, we would say "Firing a round" instead of "Launching a rocket" +--- 15368763 +>>15368752 +not being built in two more weeks +--- 15368766 +>>15368748 +wrong +--- 15368771 +Why did all three of them retire immediately after coming back? +Were Apollo flights such career enders? +Collins was offered the opportunity of landing in a later mission and declined. +--- 15368777 +>>15368766 +care to explain why? +--- 15368781 +>>15368763 +>we had factories up and running, everything in place and the technicians trained and working away, that could have churned out ever better/cheaper iterations of the Saturn 5, but closed them and destroyed the fabrication machinery and furloughed the workers +makes my want to kms +--- 15368792 +>>15368771 +idk I always found that weird too +--- 15368800 +>>15368771 +Moon’s haunted +--- 15368802 +>>15368771 +you would've had to have been there I guess +--- 15368810 +>>15368771 +I can’t speak for the others but I know collins was severely claustrophobic and almost had a panic attack the first time he tested the EVA suit in the capsule (and presumably had a similar experience during Gemini) +They were high-T men that felt, above all, they had a duty to do the missions. Not all of them loved going to space the same way modern astronauts do. Remember that the jump from first human in space to first rendezvous to first docking to the first moon landing was only like 8 years. Safety was definitely not guaranteed +--- 15368813 +>>15368771 +1. if you go again you're taking another guys seat, don't be greedy +2. they all had families and spaceflight is dangerous; why roll the dice and put them through that again? +--- 15368820 +>>15368813 +it is honestly incredible we did 6 successful moon landings in 69-71. no fatalities. +--- 15368821 +>>15368781 +Yeah it was absolutely criminal, with some brains running the show we would have ended up with something like starship in the 70s, maybe expendable until the late 80s though because lack of computing for retro landing but still would have been cheap af to make. God I HATE the shittle so much we could have been chilling on Mars by now. +--- 15368824 +>>15368802 +no dune buggy on Apollo 11 +--- 15368827 +>In another example, crew will transition between micro- and partial-gravity environments, eventually doing so after extended durations in microgravity without the support that crew members experience upon their return to Earth after long missions on the ISS. Testing out the concept of operations for surface exploration with deconditioned crew is one aspect that will also help prepare for Mars exploration. + +Oh shit, they definitely have a long duration Gateway -> lunar landing and moonwalk mission planned don't they +--- 15368838 +Von Braun mentioned +--- 15368839 +>>15368827 +>blah blah blah nasa +shut up nerd nobody cares about nasa this is spacex flight general +--- 15368842 +>>15368838 +My man +--- 15368844 +>>15368820 +A CME at the wrong time would have been no joke +--- 15368846 +>>15368839 +--- 15368848 +>>15368844 +>we choose to return to the moon +>at the time of solar maximum +>2025 peak + +fug +--- 15368849 +so what the hell is happening on thursday? I saw the NOTMAR and TFR is back up +--- 15368850 +>>15368846 +IM COOOOOMMMIIIING +--- 15368852 +>>15368810 +>collins was severely claustrophobic and almost had a panic attack the first time he tested the EVA suit +If something like this happened to a modern astronaut, the retards here would say how men became weak and pathetic söyjaks and how Apollo astronauts were so much better. +--- 15368853 +Uncharted territory +--- 15368854 +>>15368051 +>the stack vented methane with a GHG impact equivalent to 33 transatlantic flights. +that's actually super fucking bad +they need to burn it wtf +--- 15368855 +>>15368821 +S-I based flyback boosters with Rogallo parachutes were being proposed in the 70s. +--- 15368857 +>>15368846 +> have to get a rover in that shitty elevator +--- 15368859 +>>15368857 +cargo airlock +--- 15368865 +Say something nice about blue moon RCS thrusters, Elon stans +https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1648472027760820228 +--- 15368866 +>>15368853 +>66 days at Mars +see +>>15367870 +--- 15368868 +>>15367870 +>>15368866 +--- 15368871 +>>15368865 +It will be hilarious when Dynetics wins the second HLS lander. +--- 15368877 +>>15368871 +ugh I hope so but I’m scared the contract is going to be tailor-made for natty team +Speaking of which, talk on twitter is that NASA plans on doing a dedicated HLS call soon. They haven’t released an official date, so some people think it will be right after the orbital attempt and others think it will be right after the Appendix P* downselect +*or whatever they’re calling it now +--- 15368880 +>>15368865 +Are those prooonted or cast? +--- 15368882 +Why is the Kármán line called a line when it is a sphere? +--- 15368887 +https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1648498635355865089?cxt=HHwWgoDS0cqx0uAtAAAA +>SpaceX confirms it is on track to attempt a Starship launch no earlier than April 20. +--- 15368889 +>>15368882 +because you failed geometry +--- 15368890 +>>15368882 +from a certain point of view +--- 15368891 +>>15368882 +Because it’s typically studied in cross-section for trajectory purposes +--- 15368893 +>>15368868 +66 days on-planet is bullshit. Do proper exploration or don't bother going. +--- 15368894 +>>15368889 +anon BTFO +--- 15368895 +>>15368887 +Also confirmation from baylor: +https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1648473417426038787?cxt=HHwWhsDTtdr1xuAtAAAA +>4/20 is back on the FAA planning page. +(https://fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp) +https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1648499113112276994?cxt=HHwWhMDUmbLN0uAtAAAA +>SpaceX confirms they are going for a 4/20 attempt. +--- 15368897 +>>15368887 +TWO WEEKS +--- 15368899 +>>15368895 +We're back +--- 15368904 +We are SO back +--- 15368911 +two weeks bros... it's so over +--- 15368913 +IV XX bros we are so back +--- 15368915 +>>15368887 +LOL, elon made sure of that, I imagine there were lots of screams and several employees were fired +--- 15368919 +>>15368915 +no, probably the weather conditions got better. +--- 15368925 +>>15368880 +looks cast +--- 15368928 +>>15368887 +he HAS to launch the rocket at 6:09 p.m. local time, come on mustard +--- 15368932 +Is anyone else surprised at how close to T-0 SpaceX got with OFT-1? +--- 15368933 +>>15368893 +66 days for the first Mars mission is significantly longer than humans have been on the Moon +--- 15368934 +>>15368932 +they probably could have launched tbqh +--- 15368935 +>>15368932 +YES +--- 15368936 +>>15368932 +Monday was always a wet dress rehearsal. They just know to put on a show +--- 15368939 +>>15368934 +The issue was with the helium start supply for the Raptors. Tbh the vehicle would’ve flown fine if the engines had lit +--- 15368940 +>>15367625 +>blue origin would stop selling ULA engines to protect their rocket that doesn't exist + +gotta respect their dedication to the bluff +--- 15368942 +>>15368821 +> we would have ended up with something like starship in the 70s, maybe expendable until the late 80s +like fuck we could have. 50 years later and there's still only one company that figured out landing boosters. and "something like starship" still hasn't been demonstrated as reusable. +--- 15368945 +>>15368848 +Active and passive shielding is almost a solved problem if you look into the literature only it hasn't been needed yet. +--- 15368946 +I'm scared the weather will be too shit to get good footage on 4/20 +--- 15368947 +>>15368934 +69% chance the valve would've freed itself once the engines started. 31% chance the insufficient pressurization collapsed the vehicle at maxQ +--- 15368948 +>>15368940 +lmao +--- 15368950 +>>15368946 +I heard weather is worse on 4/20 than monday. Might scrub Actually +--- 15368953 +>>15368942 +Thanks thundercoper +--- 15368955 +>>15368947 +the pressure would have unstuck it eventually +--- 15368956 +>>15368350 +>>15368915 +You're still seething kek +--- 15368958 +>>15368933 +Divide the transit time for Apollo 17 by the surface time then do the same with this 66 day cuck mission you're defending +--- 15368959 +>>15368933 +and short moon stays were also retarded +--- 15368961 +>>15368887 +--- 15368969 +>>15368961 +robbed us of good footage +--- 15368970 +>>15368887 +>Blaze it faggot +--- 15368973 +Sneed shuttle +--- 15368976 +>Starliner in august now +AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA +https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1648507444556107779 +--- 15368977 +Why did the 31 engine static fire not suffer from valve issues? +--- 15368981 +>>15368976 +i thought that wasnt so bad and then saw the 2024 +lmao +--- 15368982 +uhhhhhh +if they are running cryogenics through everything aren't all the valves frozen? lol +--- 15368983 +https://twitter.com/tobyliiiiiiiiii/status/1648384341008093184 +--- 15368984 +>>15368961 +kek good meme +--- 15368986 +>>15368977 +Because there was no valve issue, they were just hypebeasting for the actual planned launch on weed dude day +--- 15368988 +>>15368976 +holy fucking shit +the absolute state of boeing right now +--- 15368989 +>>15368983 +>8m +hmmm I wonder what SHLV this is meant for. +--- 15368993 +>>15368989 +>>15368983 +Don’t get too excited. It’s for SLS +--- 15368994 +>>15368989 +Saturn V 2 +--- 15368995 +>>15368993 +SLS is completely booked until the 2030s. And by then it'll probably be canceled. +--- 15368996 +>>15368981 +remember that's for the first OPERATIONAL flight. First crewed flight is still July 2023 +--- 15368997 +>>15368976 +singles and it ruds +--- 15368998 +>>15368997 +based +--- 15368999 +>>15368998 +dubs and it succeds +--- 15369000 +>>15368999 +>trips +doesn't count +--- 15369001 +>>15368999 +HA +--- 15369003 +>>15368999 +Schrodinger's Starliner +--- 15369006 +>>15368994 +>>15368995 +>>15368996 +>>15368997 +>>15368998 +>>15368999 +>>15369000 +>>15369001 + + these posts are in order. is /sfg/ really most of /sci/? +--- 15369009 +>>15368865 +Wen orbit? +--- 15369010 +>>15369009 +NEVER +--- 15369012 +>>15369006 +/sci/ is a shit fucking board. /sfg/ is /sci/ +--- 15369013 +>>15369006 +>is /sfg/ really most of /sci/? +/pol/ and /x/ tourist threads don't deserve to be called /sci/ +--- 15369014 +>>15369006 +yes +should just rename the board to /space/ +--- 15369015 +>>15369006 +its this or vax threads in 2023 and 0.999... = 0 +--- 15369017 +>>15369006 +>/sci/ +>muh vaccine thread +>muh race thread +>muh iq test thread +that's it folks! +--- 15369018 +https://twitter.com/ZachWeiner/status/1648339279544819722 +--- 15369019 +>>15369018 +painting on the upper left corner +--- 15369020 +>first operational Starliner crew mission NET August 2024 +--- 15369023 +>>15369005 +Thanks I hate it +--- 15369025 +>>15369019 +what is this thing +--- 15369027 +>>15368976 +2024 august +--- 15369028 +spacex has developed 3 launch systems in the time it took boeing to tape a capsule to an existing rocket +--- 15369029 +>>15369018 +--- 15369031 +>>15369029 +that's from the blurrier image +>>15369019 +this one is higher res +--- 15369034 +>>15369025 +cumsocks +--- 15369036 +>>15369031 +hm +--- 15369038 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg [Embed] +--- 15369039 +>Crewed missions to non-polar landing sites, including the lunar far side +--- 15369041 +>>15369038 +I am now remembering the crazy Ivan-knifing-the-soyuz-insulation spacewalk +--- 15369043 +>>15369039 +its happening +--- 15369045 +>>15369038 +why not watch it in the original? + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIggznonljY [Embed] +--- 15369046 +>>15368251 +6 to 8 years, if we're being generous. Most of the Angara stuff can be used to make it happen. What is really gonna take time is any of the proposed payloads for it. Beyond a new Luna mission or space-tug concept, there really isn't anything for Yenisei to launch. The Orel spacecraft is basically Orion-lite and is too expensive to effectively replace Soyuz, which will always be the bread-and-butter of Roscosmos. If China pitches in we could maybe see some elaborate robotic missions and stuff. + +I have a dream future where Russia detaches it's half of the ISS before the scheduled de-orbit and nicks off with whatever ESA/NASA junk they can steal. I want the ISS to turn into a shambling space-hulk like the Admiral Kuznetsov. It would be kino. +--- 15369047 +>>15368983 +>Airbus +That'll be $8B (plus VAT) s'il vous plait +--- 15369048 +>>15369038 +wait wtf BEAM is still on station? +--- 15369049 +>>15369043 +NASA is finally thinking ambitiously again +--- 15369050 +>>15369046 +realistically russia will have a 3-4 module space station in leo (maybe a collaboration with the chinese?) while axiom, bigelow etc dick around with private space stations. NASA will be focused on gateway and the moon base if thats a thing by then +--- 15369051 +>>15369048 +Yeah apparently they use it as a personal hygiene module now +--- 15369052 +>>15369046 +Kuznetsov is a cool ship, damn shame it is run by Ziggers. +--- 15369053 +>>15369051 +huh. I remember the day that launched. Shame Bigelow is insane +--- 15369055 +So I was rewatching the Starship stream and it seems like at T-25 minutes, John said everything was good. At T-17 minutes is when John announced that the valve issue had started. + +On Launch day, we might have to wait until about T-20 minutes to see if they fixed the issue +--- 15369058 +anyone have a photo of that Skylab terrible latch yet +--- 15369060 +Some people really live the dream, huh? +--- 15369063 +>>15369051 +>Brapp Expanded Ass Module +--- 15369064 +>>15369049 +It doesn't get truly serious until they commit to studying reproductive health science in space. +--- 15369065 +>>15369064 + not necessary for scientific/exploration missions to the moon and mars +--- 15369067 +>>15369049 +So they are going to leave the astronauts on Gateway for some months before a surface mission? +--- 15369068 +>>15369060 +Guess there really is a valve problem +--- 15369069 +>>15369060 +it must be satisfying working on all this and then getting to watch it launch +--- 15369071 +>>15369067 +Yep, to test how well they function in partial gravity after extended microgravity, which we basically have zero data of, really smart Mars analog mission idea desu +--- 15369072 +>>15369071 +anti-Gateway faggots BTFO, this couldn't done with HLS or Orion alone +--- 15369073 +>>15369060 +I like these texas style hardhats with a brim all the way around. Gritty kino +--- 15369074 +>>15368680 +there's nothing rapid about building all new 1st stage tankage and entire second stage + fairing each flight +--- 15369075 +>>15369072 +They can't park a Starship in an orbit beyond the magnetic field? +--- 15369078 +>>15369060 +>that warping +its over +--- 15369079 +>>15368976 +>>>>>>>>Boeing +--- 15369080 +bad pixels +--- 15369081 +>>15369048 +NASA took full ownership of it because they said it's a really useful storage module, shame Bigelow shit the bed, the ISS could've benefited from a few more +--- 15369083 +>>15369060 +DO NOT REDEEM THE ROCKET SIRS +DO NOT REDEEM +--- 15369084 +>GATEWAY EXPANSION + +Lets fucking gooo +--- 15369085 +>>15369019 +This looks /comfy/ beyond words +--- 15369086 +for all of Russian's problems they still have the brain ability to do space walks n sheeeeiitt. Good for them. +--- 15369087 +>>15369081 +>>15369048 +reminder that bigelow was just using nasa patents +--- 15369088 +>>15369018 +reminder that zach weinersmith and his ilk will not be allowed set foot on mars +--- 15369089 +>>15369084 +gateway will never be built +--- 15369090 +>>15369084 +--- 15369091 +>>15367751 +so fucking stupid +--- 15369093 +>>15369084 +>>15369090 +>long endurance missions in lunar orbit +MOONBASE +--- 15369094 +>>15369091 +how about this one +--- 15369095 +>>15369093 +>Moon2Mars architecture strategy +--- 15369096 +>>15369078 +>ay caramba Paco +>you bent the freakin rocket +>get the sledgehammer before Mr Elon sees +--- 15369098 +I think the southern cowboy hardhat is based and I’m tired of pretending it’s not +--- 15369100 +>>15369084 +Why not just park a starship there? Or use one of those new airbus or gravitics Starmax class modules? +--- 15369101 +https://twitter.com/clearusui/status/1648505886447644673 +--- 15369102 +>>15369098 +Your status in the oldspace corp decides how big the brim on your hardhat is. +--- 15369104 +>>15369101 +I wish I could get inside Kuriaru +--- 15369105 +>>15369100 +because it has been in the works for years and those are only showing up as concepts and prototypes now? +--- 15369106 +>>15369089 +starship is the gateway and the HLS and the everything else really now too. +--- 15369107 +>>15369101 +haha what a goof +--- 15369109 +>>15367751 +>>15369094 +Greatly exaggerates the size of that spaceplane piece of shit. +--- 15369110 +>>15369109 +No it really was that big +--- 15369111 +>>15369105 +Sunk Cost Fallacy +--- 15369112 +>>15369111 +it's modular. if and when starship delivers on its promises they can make 2 dozen modules out of them and throw away the original parts. until then we get mini moon camper van +--- 15369114 +>>15369106 +>starship is the gateway and the HLS and the everything else really now too. +this is the funny part +NASA sure was cheeky when they funded HLS +--- 15369116 +>>15369105 +>because it has been in the works for years +It came to me in a dream +--- 15369117 +>another episode of /sfg/ doesn't understand politics +Successful missions require years and years of consistent funding. Gateway is optimized for political stability, not tech +--- 15369118 +>>15369114 +I still expect Dragon to be used to get Astros to the starship. Orion will never fly people. +--- 15369121 +>>15369117 +Do you have proof? +--- 15369122 +>>15369117 +>mission-centric mentality +You need to stop with that oldspace crap, it's turning your mind into mush +--- 15369124 +god i hope the orange piece of shit goes quick enough that the few apollo astronauts still alive can see another landing +--- 15369125 +getting tired of these newfags +--- 15369126 +>>15367751 +take all my upvotes! +--- 15369129 +>>15367751 +Coolest art in the whole thread. Lowkey epic +--- 15369130 +>>15368622 +How do you think they make it in the first place anon +--- 15369133 +>>15369129 +Doesnt get much cooler than STS +--- 15369134 +>>15368680 +Too bad their tanks are orthogrid milled aluminum autism and even if it cost zero dollars to build recover and refurbish that engine pod it would never economically compete with F9 +--- 15369136 +>>15369133 +It does get better though +--- 15369139 +is shittle the only launch vehicle that requires humans onboard? +Could shuttle even get into space without humans or are they just there for 70 seconds of stick input for landing because NASA can't into feedback control? +--- 15369143 +>>15368865 +at least they appear to exist +--- 15369145 +this cosmonaut is tying a knot in EVA gloves +god bless him +--- 15369147 +>>15369101 +hahaha +--- 15369148 +>>15369147 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Im1i0dANU [Embed] +--- 15369149 +>>15368868 +Why the FUCK would it be better for astronaut's mental health to spend an increased amount of time locked in a zero G spam can in orbit with nothing but the Sun and surrounding stars visible in return for a 93% reduction in time spent on or near Mars, the actual objective? We need total egghead death and we need it NOW +--- 15369150 +just finished liftoff by eric berger. recommend me other books on spaceflight please +--- 15369151 +>>15369147 +Cute as heck +--- 15369153 +>>15369150 +Ignition +Other than that they all suck +Bergers falcon 9 book should be out soonish +--- 15369154 +>>15368933 +Short stays are NOT justifiable from a moral perspective, neither in terms of public funding WASTED on flag & footprints bullshit nor in terms of the much worse risk to astronaut life proportional to the pitiful scientific reward gained. +--- 15369155 +>>15369150 +Across the Airless Wilds +Challenger: A Major Malfunction (A MUST READ) the best challenger book. Covers everything from Ballast Bill to the Mormons +--- 15369157 +>>15367709 +Are you excited for anything youre trying to put out? +--- 15369158 +>>15368942 +Early Shuttle concepts count as "something like starship". The most popular design was the one with the two big winged vehicles, fully reusable, two stage to orbit. They both landed horizontally of course but took off vertically. They also loosely followed the air frame design created by a guy called Max Faget, which is hilarious +--- 15369160 +>>15369147 +--- 15369161 +>>15368982 +uhhhhhh +if they are using components made of solid materials aren't all the valves frozen? lol +--- 15369162 +>>15367727 +I was there, the cringe was near-fatal. +--- 15369164 +>>15369158 +Max Qute vs Max Faget +--- 15369165 +>>15369158 +>but Faget-senpai, I thrust from there! +>NOT TODAY YOU DON'T +--- 15369167 +>>15368993 +Unironically cannot fit inside Block 1B payload fairing, can't launch on SLS until (lol) Block 2 comes around (ie never) +--- 15369168 +>>15369162 +really? sweet, I'd imagine not seeing it through the lens of a video screen like the rest of us was soul destroying +--- 15369169 +>>15369158 +>a guy called Max Faget +Legend says his descendants are browsing /sfg/ right now +--- 15369171 +>>15369005 +this shit looks like it would've been built by the Machines from the Matrix movies +--- 15369172 +Hey guys, I need help. I'm really bad at drawing but I want to make space OC. What are some fresh ideas? +--- 15369173 +>>15369051 +No, hatch is nominally closed. Just for long term stowage +--- 15369175 +>>15369154 +The thing is the astronauts want the increased risk too +--- 15369176 +>>15368137 +Lets hope the troons don't ruin it this time +--- 15369177 +>>15369172 +Use stable diffusion/midjourney +Drawing yourself is so last year +--- 15369179 +>>15369177 +No that's boring +--- 15369180 +>>15368158 +Kys pedo +--- 15369181 +>>15369177 +this +--- 15369183 +>>15369180 +spastic its not even him that made it we're making fun of the OC. also holy projection batman +--- 15369184 +>>15368857 +They'll just drive it out the door and ride that baby to the ground +--- 15369185 +>>15369084 +I do not give a shit about gateway. Like, at all. I would personally cancel gateway and fire every official, manager, and engineer that worked on it if it meant NASA would just shut the fuck up and start building some surface base modules. As in, several different types, cranked out on assembly lines. +--- 15369188 +>>15368976 +Starliner will never ever carry astronauts +--- 15369189 +>>15369180 +everyone laugh at the anime = pedo poster +he's baaacckkkkkkkkkk +--- 15369190 +Now would be an excellent time to murder the cosmonauts. +--- 15369191 +>>15369180 +You dont have to be genius to see that she's cute +--- 15369192 +>>15368009 +>twitter +>spaceflight +>artist +at least its not a tranny +--- 15369193 +>>15369190 +A lot of people are going to die in space :( +Verification not required. +--- 15369194 +>>15369192 +he's also a train autist, kinda based +--- 15369195 +>>15369194 +ya i made peace with third worlders when i realized it was either brazilians and indonesians or trannies in these circles +--- 15369196 +>>15369189 +>he's baaa -AAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK!!!! +--- 15369199 +you guys ever just straight up eat onion powder? +--- 15369200 +>>15369199 +no but I do remember being quite disappointed by astronaut ice cream after visiting the Smithsonian at like age 10 +--- 15369201 +>>15369199 +say that again. +--- 15369202 +>>15369160 +frightfully counterintuitive +--- 15369203 +>>15369185 +without it HLS would be delayed 3-4 years. the only reason starship gets an exception on the crew rating for HLS is that it doesnt launch with humans +--- 15369204 +>>15369200 +whats it taste like? i bet boeing sold it to nasa for 1 million or something +--- 15369206 +>>15369204 +like if you freeze dried cotton candy +--- 15369207 +>>15369204 +imagine if icecream had the consistency of chalk that melted into normal cream in your mouth. +--- 15369209 +>>15369199 +I'm not a nig so I've never had that in my house +--- 15369210 +>>15369207 +like how eating flour turns to dough in my mouth? +--- 15369211 +>>15369210 +no that happens because youre black +--- 15369213 +>>15369094 +I hate concept artists that don't consider the toughness of the things they're drawing. Any spacecraft including even Starship would have long been reduced to a pile of twisted tin scraps blown about by the breeze long before this amount of crud could build up. +--- 15369214 +>>15369209 +i havent gone to the store in weeks and pretty much all out of food. i dont like ordering out, so all i have is italian style bread crumbs and onion powder seasoning +--- 15369216 +>>15369172 +Draw Starship, SLS, Falcon 9, or Shuttle +Rogozin meme +Two weeks meme +Anti BO / Bezos meme +Ariane 6 meme, Starliner meme +--- 15369218 +>>15369117 +Explain F9 development success +--- 15369219 +>>15369139 +yes and yes to the thing about astronauts being required only for the last bit (specifically to flip the landing gear button because the computer could do the approach and landing completely autonomously otherwise) +--- 15369220 +>>15369153 +Ignition is nice but he sleeps on methane when it's actually the best propellant +--- 15369222 +>>15369218 +a few reasons. back then SX was really the only game in town for high-flying space launch vehicle startups. they got the best engineers (they still do, but still). Also the perfect storm of 2 administrations worth of support. +--- 15369223 +>>15369121 +>>15369122 +He's just explaining why something is the way it is. Obviously Gateway is retarded. I was a massive gateway hater at the beginning of tge trump admin because it basically meant NASA was still too pussy to go to the moon and would rather get bogged down in another gay station. but nice thing about artemis is Gateway took more or less a back seat, so now i dont care what happens with it. it's not on the critical path for landings, and that's all i care about +--- 15369226 +>>15369220 +With the technology of the time it wasn't great. You need staged combustion and subcooled propellant (so basically Starship) to make it beat hydrolox. +--- 15369227 +>>15369219 +jeez. +--- 15369229 +>>15369175 +Yeah and the grunts who work on construction sites like to fuck around with the equipment and cut corners with safety, too. +--- 15369230 +>>15369219 +that seems like something that would be pretty easy to automate if they wanted to +--- 15369231 +>>15368333 +No, if you ever experience anything less than a full 1g for even a millisecond you spontaneously combust. +NEVER JUMP +--- 15369232 +>>15369193 +Billions already have, in fact +--- 15369233 +>>15369214 +I've had days where I only eat bread and cereal because I also don't like ordering food or getting groceries but I've never gone that far lol +--- 15369234 +>>15369230 +the Russians did it. In my shuttle book I don't recall why exactly we couldn't. +Hell we had automated glide slope landings in the 1920s +--- 15369236 +>>15369203 +Gateway doesn't need to exist. Orion can rendezvous and dock with HLS in lunar orbit just fine. +--- 15369237 +>>15369220 +>>15369226 +Even then it's clear that the hydrogen/methane + lox mixture was boring to him, since they were tasked with basically being rocket prop alchemists. using pure fuels like that as opposed to chimera mixes is just less fun +--- 15369240 +>>15369233 +I was supposed to go today but i fucked up and worked too long and now store closed. i made a loaf of bread earlier that turned out alright +--- 15369241 +>>15369240 +POST BREAD ON ROCKET(book) +--- 15369242 +>>15369234 +The astronaut corps wanted to ride every shuttle and knew without a station it was their only hope of staying employed. Had the Saturn V and Skylab stayed around, there would have been less pressure, like how nobody cares the CRS vehicles are unmanned. +--- 15369243 +>>15369241 +I ate all the bread but here's this +--- 15369244 +Zubrin's new Case for Nukes book is a fun read (it's like listening to him rant about oldspace/oldnuke in book form) but there's not a lot of new information in it if you've been coming to /sfg/ for a while. + +tl;dr roggs good regulations bad +--- 15369246 +>>15369243 +Can we get a schizo-type space book list going for /sfg/? + +>mars and its canals, Lowell +>worlds in collision, Velikovsky +>Death on Mars, Brandenberg + +what am I missing +--- 15369247 +>>15369226 +I disagree. +Falcon 9 stage 2 is a way higher energy stage than Centaur, and it uses sub cooled kerolox in a gas generator engine. The low density of hydrogen is simply that shit, that it can add ruin the wet-dry mass ratio enough to completely nullify the Isp gains of hydrolox. Even without sub cooling the kerolox, it's still a much better stage (we just don't see its massive performance go to work as effectively because it stages very low and slow vs centaur). +Methalox is great because it's still got the density advantage, it's more efficient than kerolox, it burns a little cooler so you get a bit bitter performance from your turbines, and most importantly it's possible to do fuel-rich preburners and turbines with it. However, as I mentioned before, you don't need to use staged combustion to exceed what the best hydrolox engines can get you in terms of real world stage performance (X mass to Y orbit). You only need staged combustion to truly unlock the power of methalox. +--- 15369248 +>>15369246 +The Hunt for Zero Point +--- 15369249 +>>15369246 +stephen baxter has to be an honorary schizo, it's like every time the man reads about some random physics rule he tries to make a space drive out of it +--- 15369250 +>>15369244 +>oldnuke +lol +>>15369246 +the hidden records by wayne herschel +--- 15369252 +>>15369246 +The Case For Mars, Zubrin +--- 15369253 +>>15369230 +>>15369234 +It was because the astronauts effectively demanded it, as otherwise they would be "spam in a can" and not pilots like they wanted to be. +--- 15369254 +>>15369250 +>the hidden records by wayne herschel +>"archaeo-astronomy" +oh yeah that's some good shit right there +--- 15369255 +>>15369252 +someone should use 11labs to make zubrin read the entirety of case for nukes to me +--- 15369256 +>>15369255 +I think you can just buy the audiobook. +--- 15369257 +>a new era of ERA +--- 15369258 +>>15369254 +i have a copy somewhere. havent seen it in years though. gist is we came from some stars in the pleiades and settled mars and built cydonia and some cataclysm forced us to Earth +>>15369256 +doubt he reads it himself +--- 15369260 +>>15369253 +NO BUCKS NO BUCK ROGERS HELLOOOOOOO?????? +--- 15369263 +would you donate your braps to elons starship fuel? asking for a friend +--- 15369268 +>>15368970 +https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1498106119981522951 +lmao he actually said this about starship +--- 15369270 +>>15369263 +it takes 300,000,000 people's yearly farts to fill one starship. I just did the math. +--- 15369275 +>>15369193 +>/sfg/ is dead +--- 15369276 +>>15369270 +Spacex Boca Chica brapbarns when. Only the finest braphogs - Elon approved - will do. +--- 15369279 +>>15369268 +>Sonic the Hedgehog character +booo get better material +--- 15369280 +>>15369276 +you are now recalling the memory of reading about Bezos's leaked sexts to his weird gf where he says she smelled good +--- 15369281 +>>15369060 +how do I get this job? +--- 15369282 +>>15369154 +>Short stays are NOT justifiable from a moral perspective +They're not justifiable from a more technical perspective either. NASA is only considering opposition transfers because of pressure from old space lobbyists and because the military is using them as the public face for space nuclear technology development so a Mars mission using NEP or NTP might be a better sell to congress. Certainly the decades worth of development for a mission that realistically would happen no earlier than 2040 would line many pockets. Only recently have they alluded to the fact that these transfers can also be done by chemical so now they're doubling down on mass autism to imply vehicles like Starship would be bad while ignoring that these transfers take more delta-v compared to conjunction transfers, which reduces payload capability far more than the differences between the proposed propulsion methods. + +The safest space for any astronaut that isn't on Earth, is in a pressurized structure covered by regolith as shielding, not loitering in space to get a slightly shorter total mission duration. The next safest place would be in vehicle like Starship which by then would be well vetted versus new technology with more unknown failure modes. +--- 15369286 +>>15369281 +https://boards.greenhouse.io/spacex/jobs/6663295002?gh_jid=6663295002 +--- 15369290 +ITS OVEEEERRRRRRRRRR +https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1648550090330480640 +--- 15369291 +>>15368576 +Picrel +>>15369006 +Yes. Unironically, the only worthwhile thread. +--- 15369296 +>>15369290 +>many issues +IT WAS ONE VALVE YOU CHARLATAN +--- 15369298 +>>15369296 +you mean the one he purposely pissed in? +--- 15369301 +>>15369298 +the whole rocket is full of piss +--- 15369302 +>>15369220 +I got bored with ignition halfway through +Constantly some random new chemical, so fucking many man +--- 15369305 +Why are there “many issues” now if they were ready to launch Monday? +--- 15369308 +>>15369305 +wet dress probably revealed some things. +--- 15369309 +>>15369308 +Does this mean the Monday launch would’ve failed? +--- 15369311 +>>15369309 +no +--- 15369313 +3d printed rockets are really cool +--- 15369315 +they're still on this shit +--- 15369316 +>>15369315 +>concept +ngmi +--- 15369317 +>>15369315 +the last one is literally a dick and balls +--- 15369318 +>>15369317 +grow up dude +--- 15369319 +I'm always somewhat dubious on how thos big balloony vehicles can ascend supersonically through mars. Like yeah the atmosphere is thin but surely aerodynamics has to come into play somewhat +--- 15369320 +>>15369317 +Phallic supremacy is the way to space +pierce the heavens +--- 15369321 +>>15369282 +>The safest space for any astronaut +Is there any math done on the radiation dose on each option for travel? +--- 15369322 +>>15369318 +not an argument +--- 15369325 +>>15369282 +yes +--- 15369326 +>>15369318 +kys you uptight dickweed. WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?! +--- 15369328 +>>15369315 +Is there any oldspace company actually trying to follow SpaceX's steps? The only one I'm aware are the Indians who are developing a F9 clone. +--- 15369329 +>>15369172 +Krystal +--- 15369330 +>>15369319 +Those concepts always have fairly low acceleration rates (TWR 1.2 but in Mars gravity) and they go straight up for a while despite being in very thin air already. +--- 15369332 +>>15369329 +post +--- 15369334 +>>15369321 +Dose drops the less time you spend in orbit, the end. +--- 15369335 +>>15369328 +I'm surprised there was no mention of the lockheed lander design, apparently it's still "canon" as of this year's nuclear thermal mars base camp proposal +--- 15369344 +At first I was cautiously optimistic when looking at Moon to Mars pöanes, but then I saw the year NET 2039. Its going to be the same old grifting for jobs again isn't it? NASA just needs to fu dame tally change on how they do thse things, focus on cutting edge tech and science missions only, do the rest with commercial fixed cost + +Is SLS going to be seen as a success or failure by the general public? +--- 15369345 +>>15369286 +my only qualification is forklift +--- 15369355 +>>15369344 +what do you expect from oldspace? why would you ever be optimistic about any of their projects +--- 15369356 +https://youtu.be/cgGkfYYUbjM [Embed] +Angry astronaut exclusive LTV interview and coverage +--- 15369367 +>>15369315 +You can control-f that whole document and find no mention of Starship. It's worth pointing out is that their NEP or NTP cuckships would be assembled and refueled in high Earth orbit before departing for Mars so those operations help justify using SLS and even Orion over Starship which may itself need refueling to get an equal amount of payload to that orbit. +--- 15369380 +>>15369344 +Normies are going to see the SLS the same way they see the Saturn V. +--- 15369383 +>>15369380 +wrong, spacex is saturn v, sls is just nasa rocket. most people still think they run the skittle, they just dont care +--- 15369386 +*BRAAAAAP* excuse you +--- 15369390 +>>15369313 +and heavy +--- 15369393 +>>15369355 +I don't know +its over +--- 15369396 +>>15369383 +The "most people still think shuttle flies" thing is just not true, it's retirement was widely publicized and it's flaws to a degree ate common knowledge due to Challenger and Columbia's status as national disasters. +--- 15369401 +>>15369396 +false, unless millenials are different. im a zoomer, and every other zoomer i know who doesnt care about space thinks the shuttle still flies +--- 15369403 +>>15369367 +They are living in a fantasy +--- 15369409 +>>15368810 +>collins was severely claustrophobic +There's something cruelly hilarious about giving the claustrophobic crew member the job of sitting in a tiny isolated capsule by himself for days and forcing him to be the most isolated human in existence every time he went around the dark side of the moon. +--- 15369422 +>>15369367 +>Commercial heavy-lift conceptual designs available +What are the vehicles next to falcon heavy? +Vulcan Centaur and New Glenn I guess +the falcon heavy is not conceptual though, it has flown multiple times +you could say Starship is further along in development than either Vulcan Centaur or New Glenn? + +The super heave lift conceptual designs in development is mentioned though, not just Starship +it really is kind of funny that they specifically go out of their way not to mention Starship anywhere ever +--- 15369423 +>>15369393 +owari da... +--- 15369424 +holy shit /sfg/ is dead +--- 15369425 +>>15369409 +tells you something about his mental fortitude +--- 15369431 +>>15369424 +just wait for the weed day +--- 15369433 +>>15369431 +it's not launching +--- 15369436 +>>15369425 +I imagine the periods of time where he was out of radio contact and totally alone involved a lot of screaming +--- 15369438 +>>15369424 +--- 15369447 +https://twitter.com/AusSpaceAgency/status/1648555681765548032 +--- 15369458 +https://spacenews.com/lower-space-company-price-tags-pave-the-way-to-more-acquisitions/ + +>“There were a lot of deals that we haven’t participated in over the last five years because the companies were overvalued,” said Megan Crawford, co-founder of venture capital firm SpaceFund. + +>“I like to refer to this as the magic space sprinkles,” she said, “you add space, or AI, or blockchain to the name of your company and all of a sudden the valuation goes up by 100x.” + +>She said this issue was compounded by a spurt of early-stage space companies that went public in recent years by merging with a special purpose acquisition company (SPAC), often with lofty business projections despite a lack of current revenues. + +>Their high-profile valuations helped raise price tags across the rest of the industry, however, the vast majority of early-stage companies that merged with a SPAC have since significantly underperformed in the public market. + +>“On the public side, I think there’s a lot of blowback from public equity investors about the newspace sector,” said Matt Kuta, chief operating officer at industry consolidator Voyager Space. + +>He said “a lot of institutional investors have lost hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars, and that then trickles down to the folks that are looking to allocate private capital.” + +>The poor trading performance of space companies that went public via a SPAC, coupled with high inflation and other macroeconomic challenges, are weighing on valuations as investors become more conservative in general. + +>The hype that had been inflating space valuations is “starting to fade,” Crawford said, “and we’re starting to see deals that are a lot more in line with what we think are the real valuations of a lot of these … companies that we think were highly over-valued over the last couple of years.” +--- 15369459 +I wish Zubrin would actually read the Artemis architecture before tearing it up. He would sound more credible if he did +--- 15369460 +https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1648449484635119617 +--- 15369461 +>>15369344 +Surprisingly the biggest bottleneck is not the SLS production line, it's the contractor in charge of the mobile launchers. NASA OIG flipped his lid over how incompetent they've been (they have a pretty good defense though, NASA kept changing the SLS design as the mobile launcher was being built, requiring massive redesigns). Coupled with JPL shitting the bed on Psyche and bringing the entire robotic space program to a screeching halt, the entire agency is going nowhere fast + +I think in the long run the SLS will be seen as a success but I expect whatever organizational changes are necessary to fix the program management that got them into this mess will take at least another wave of retirements (~20 years) and the planetary community will see the moon program as public enemy number one as long as Congress keeps it going +--- 15369463 +>>15369460 +"We're not Astra" +--- 15369469 +>840 posts +>page 1 +where were you when 4chan was kill? +--- 15369471 +>>15369461 +>I think in the long run SLS will be seen as a success +Let me stop you right there +There is no way, zero, nada, zilch, that a $4 Billion expendable rocket can ever be seen as a success. Never. Ever. +--- 15369475 +>>15369332 +--- 15369477 +>>15369321 +Yes. +Lurk +>>15369305 +Russian "humour" makes the Germans look like brits. +>>15369335 +>Hydrolox ministarship +JUST +--- 15369479 +>>15369100 +Possibly they're thinking that Gateway would be able to maintain its orbit for a long period of time more efficiently than SS HLS? +--- 15369482 +>>15369475 +do her naked getting fucked anal! +--- 15369485 +>>15369471 +It got off the ground and delivered its payload where it was supposed to, what more could you possibly ask for from a rocket? It does the job. Not cheaply, but it works. + +>>15369367 +NASA doesn't consider something real until it hits TRL 6 +--- 15369491 +>>15369461 +>in the long run the SLS will be seen as a success +Do boeingcucks really... +It's shit. The public also sees the shittle as good, when it was complete shit. +--- 15369492 +>>15369485 +so on what levels are New Glenn and Vulcan compared to Starship then? +--- 15369493 +>>15369492 +Starship's been a pretty clear TRL-6 since 2021 +--- 15369495 +>>15369485 +what more could I ask? higher cadence, lower cost +you know, basic fucking things +you could buy like 300 falcon heavy launches with the cost of SLS +--- 15369499 +>>15369495 +With NASA's extra certification paperwork with every mission they contract out, it's equivalent to the cost of about 16 Falcon Heavies per SLS vehicle, really. +--- 15369506 +>>15369492 +Fire comes out of one end. +--- 15369508 +Will Starship have transporter missions for normal sized satellites? +--- 15369509 +>>15369508 +fucking duh, how do you expect them to make money?? +--- 15369516 +>>15369509 +starlink +--- 15369517 +>>15369485 +>what more could you possibly ask for from a rocket? +Reusability +--- 15369519 +Will there be a LEO tourism program for Starship? +--- 15369521 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg [Embed] + +Still working on it +--- 15369523 +>>15369516 +They can't make money buying launches from themselves +--- 15369526 +>>15369523 +Wrong +--- 15369528 +>>15369523 +they are going to make money through starlink and what enables its profitability is very cheap launches with Starship +vertical integration man +--- 15369533 +>>15369521 +Still another 24 hours before they even need to begin shutting things down for a launch on the 20th. +--- 15369538 +>>15369523 +Paradoxically that's exactly what is happening with F9. And Starship is an order of magnitude better cost per kg. Money printer. When you own the transportation system, literally any space offering will be cheaper than your competition who has no internal launch capability. Even moreso when you are 10-20 years ahead of any launch competition +--- 15369541 +>>15369533 +>didn't see the tweet +It's not happening before the 21st. +--- 15369544 +>>15369541 +I saw the tweet. The 20th is not out of the running. +--- 15369545 +We arent goin (and that's a good thing) +--- 15369553 +>>15368882 +actually it's Karman plane +--- 15369572 +>>15369060 +>I will get fired if I don't sort this out soon +>Is this what I'm going to do all my fertile years +--- 15369580 +>>15369572 +I'll show her fertile ;) +--- 15369586 +>>15369572 +The sooner you fix this rocket, the sooner you can get to Mars and apply for maternity leave, little lady. +--- 15369588 +the fuck? the abomination that is /stg/ (which was made by an angry faggot) still exists? +--- 15369599 +1g is not for me +Total Earther Death +Total Tubefag Death +some terraformers are ok +--- 15369611 +>>15369447 +>1500 views +SAD +--- 15369613 +>>15369599 +Areoform Earth +--- 15369617 +glass the earth +--- 15369628 +>>15369572 +Can you stop making these extremely embarrassing posts please? +--- 15369634 +>>15369599 +>Total Tubefag Death +Bring it, wellcuck +--- 15369636 +Despite the issues, consider that we STILL might get an orbital Starship before Starliner does even one crewed mission. +Oh you forgot about Boing's shitcan already didn't you? +--- 15369638 +>>15369636 +doesn't matter +SLS beat starship +--- 15369646 +>>15369246 +Dark Mission by Richard Hoagland and Mike Bara +Ringmakers of Saturn by Norman R. Bergrun +Who Built The Moon? by Christopher Knight and Alan Butler +Somebody Else Is On The Moon by George H. Leonard +--- 15369657 +>>15369634 +So, other than reduced gravity drag upon departure, what other advantages does a spinhab possess? +--- 15369658 +>>15369638 +11+ years to build something in development since the 1980s. Impressive +--- 15369662 +>>15369658 +cope +you lust starshipchud +--- 15369668 +>>15369657 +Access to 24-hour-a-day sunlight. This makes solar power a consistent, economical energy source. Photovoltaic panels can convert sunlight into electrical current, and solar mirrors can concentrate it for process heat in industrial operations (such as the smelting of ore). A space-based solar concentrator the size of a football field (which could still weigh less than a car) could provide process heat equivalent to the burning of 1 million barrels of oil over 30 years. +Sunlight also drives the life-support system of the habitat, so the day/night cycle can be set to whatever is convenient. Compare this to the moon, where there are 14 days of continuous daylight, and then a 14-day-long night. Here, some alternate energy source would probably have to be used half the time. +Access to zero gravity. This may have a number of industrial and entertainment possibilities. Structures (such as the above-mentioned solar mirrors) could be built many times larger and flimsier in space than on a planet. Zero G would be a liability if there were no alternative to it. Astronauts experience loss of bone mass and muscle tone after prolonged exposure to weightlessness. But most of a space habitat would be under Earth-normal gravity, although there would be easy access to regions of reduced gravity and zero G (perhaps for personal flight). With planets, on the other hand, you have to take the gravity that's there, and it's often the wrong kind of gravity to keep us healthy. Lunarians or Martians would probably not be able to visit the Earth (nor accelerate at 1 G). +Control of the environment. The weather and other aspects of the surroundings would be those of the inhabitants' choosing. Agriculture in space will benefit from weather control (fresh fruits and vegetables year-round) and the absence of pests. +--- 15369671 +>>15369668 +Mobile territories. Although the first generation of space habitats will doubtless reside in High Earth Orbit, there's no reason why space settlers couldn't attach engines to their habitats, and over the course of months or years gradually change their orbit to whatever solar system location they found preferable. +Long-term expansion of the land area available to the human race. Let's be optimistic and assume that Mars could be made totally Earth-like in the near-term. This would basically double the land area available to humanity, meaning problem solved...until the population doubles again. By contrast, if we were to conservatively limit ourselves to using only the resources of the asteroid belt, we could build, in the form of space habitats, 3,000 times the livable surface area of the Earth. This makes space settlement a long-term solution. +--- 15369682 +>>15368324 +Whan that I was a yong and lusty knyght, +I hadde a greet desir to goon and fight, +And for to serve my kyng and God aright, +I took my men and banners bright and light. + +But as I lay in camp upon a day, +A wonder thing bifel that changed my way, +A ship of silver from the hevene came, +And broghte me to londes of newe name. + +Ther fond I folk that were of fremd aspect, +And eek of cruel and of foul effect, +They wolde have slain me and my men outright, +But with Goddes grace we hem did reject. + +And thanne I had a thought of heigh emprise, +To make me lord of al that world so wyde, +And for to preche there the Cristen wyse, +And make the hethen folk their goddes chyde. + +And so with many a batayle and a stour, +I wan that world and made it my honour, +I crowned me a kyng with muchel flour, +And lived in ese, joye, and socour. + +Now lie I here ful lowe in erthe and stoon, +But in the hevene I hope to have a boon, +And se my Lord that for my love was slayn, +And thank him for the grace of his doyn. +--- 15369684 +>>15369671 +>change their orbit to whatever solar system location they found preferable. +This seems like a total fucking meme to be honest. What's the point of changing orbit except for some highly unusual emergency? +--- 15369687 +>>15369668 +>the day/night cycle can be set to whatever is convenient +That's all that matters to you spinqueers, isn't it. +Your precious ease and convenience. +Never occurs to you set the day-night cycle to something INconvenient, does it? +--- 15369688 +>>15369671 +based and dyson swarm pilled +--- 15369689 +>>15368324 +>>15368331 +>>15368334 +HFY garbage is L2-tier cringe. Take that shit to /tg/ where you can be around people who like it. +--- 15369690 +>>15369671 +anon, most of the terrestrial bodies in the solar system is useless regolith. You need specific materials to build spinhabs, and not only that, spinhabs need a constant import of new materials FROM GRAVITY WELLS to keep their populations alive. It's just a huge waste. +If the population keeps expanding, the excess will do the obvious, which is to leave the solar system. +--- 15369692 +>>15369689 +It's funny retard +--- 15369697 +>>15369687 +So Venus with 112 days of night is more attractive than Mars with its 12 and a bit hours of night? +--- 15369698 +>>15369690 +>leave the solar system. +--- 15369700 +>>15369697 +At least that way I'll know there are no spinqueers around. They can't bear to miss their morning yoga classes and second brunch. +--- 15369705 +>>15369628 +/pol/chud incels actually think women think this stuff. naturally, the only woman they've ever talked to is their mom +--- 15369707 +Why dont we build a bigger space shuttle and make it out of thick steel and metallic heat shield? +--- 15369712 +>>15369698 +>NOOO, YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE +>NOT EVEN 100 YEARS IN THE FUTURE +>IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE +I think you might be more comfortable at the sierra club. +--- 15369714 +>>15369671 +Mbl territ. 1st gen space hab in HEO, no reason not to attach eng, grad chng orbit. Long-term expansion human land area. Optimistic Mars Earth-like, double land area, prob solved till pop double. Space hab w/ asteroid belt res, 3k times Earth livable surf. Long-term sol. + +what do we think about text compression to filter normies? +--- 15369716 +>>15369646 +real coast to coast am hours, i was gonna suggest hoagland's monuments of mars +--- 15369718 +I want to live in a comfy cabin inside ablack hole. just go outside and its just black. inside i will sit by the fire and play solotaire and pet my cat +--- 15369719 +>>15369714 +I think you've turned your mind into mush. +--- 15369720 +>>15369671 +you can increase population density if you simply don't spin your hab. you can already see this on the iss with sleeping bags on all four surfaces in a corridor. All the advantages of spinhabs can be increased if you stop pandering to the comfort of a physiology which evolved on earth, an environment completely alien to the vacuum of space. +--- 15369721 +>>15369714 +i think you're a fag +--- 15369727 +>>15369721 +>>15369719 +-t normies +--- 15369728 +What happens when you can't increase the population density any more? Is there something to do other than increase the population? +Is there some way to dismantle the Sun to make spin habitats? +--- 15369730 +>>15369714 +Autism +--- 15369731 +>>15369720 +Your kids can breath through their ass if you like but not mine +--- 15369735 +>>15369705 +They should. We wouldn't be facing demographic collapse in the developed world otherwise. Currently the US is totally reliant on outside population reservoirs for its economy to not shit itself. +--- 15369739 +>>15369731 +Non-ass-breathers are barely a step above well-dwellers. +--- 15369740 +>>15369731 +>he will not accept anything except comfortable earther conditions. +>turns down opportunity to populate the void. +this is what I expected, after all, spinqueers are simply crypto-earthers. +--- 15369741 +>>15369247 +>Falcon 9 stage 2 is a way higher energy stage than Centaur +f9 stage 2 has 4x the mass of a centaur 3 so that's not really saying anything. the shuttle SRBs are higher energy stages than a centaur too. +--- 15369743 +>>15369735 +it's not that they don't want to have kids. people want to, but can't afford to have kids in this economy. I couldn't afford to have kids even if I wanted to. It's a wealth problem, like many other things in life +--- 15369745 +>>15369740 +So logically you also have contempt for Mars settlement? Or will we get an unprincipled exception there? +--- 15369763 +>>15369634 +--- 15369774 +>>15369745 +Not what I said. We should accept shorter lifespans on mars and in space instead of forcing paradise tier conditions on everything to an autistic degree like spinfags insist on. +--- 15369781 +>>15369774 +>no you are not allowed to alter the environment around you to suit your needs you have to bend to it because it would be evil of humanity to alter anything except ourselves +--- 15369784 +>>15369222 +Winning the COTS award (i.e. years of consistent government support) while F9 was just a paper rocket and SpaceX was unproven as a launch company +--- 15369786 +>>15369784 +Meant to tag >>15369218 +--- 15369789 +>>15369781 +fuck you, not what I said. All you create by moving heaven and earth to achieve the human ideal is an environment where the first person to accept substandard conditions has a measured advantage, as I pointed out in >>15369720 +--- 15369792 +>>15369789 +Well what if everyone agrees not to seek an unfair advantage. All it takes is for everyone to play fair and we all get to live in comfy spinhabs. +--- 15369797 +TWO MORE WEEKS +--- 15369799 +>>15369789 +>becoming a genetic abomination is an advantage +Maybe to unthinking animals it would be. +--- 15369809 +>>15369799 +>muh nature +Sounds like well-dweller talk. We need to dismantle every rock in this solar system to build spinhabs to fill with more and more humanity. +--- 15369810 +>>15369799 +>no guys we can't just adapt to new environments!! +anon, is this you? +--- 15369815 +>>15369810 +>no guys we can't just adapt to new environments!! +We literally don't though. We have surpassed that need in the stone age. +--- 15369816 +>>15369810 +We should only make ourselves into better versions of what we already are. We should be taller, stronger, faster, smarter, tougher humans, but we shouldn't allow humans to become non-humans. +--- 15369820 +total well dweller death +--- 15369821 +>>15369815 +untrue. We're currently adapting to widespread contraceptives, among other things. evolution doesn't stop, anon. +--- 15369823 +>>15369816 +exactly, this is why I hate spinfags. we should adapt ourselves such that we do not need 1g. +--- 15369828 +>>15369821 +Evolution isn't inherently good. Things can evolve incorrectly or into effective dead ends. We have the ability to intelligently control evolution to make ourselves better, so we should. +You want humans to behave like unthinking animals that simply let our circumstances dictate our future instead of deliberately choosing which future we want. You are quite literally subhuman. +>>15369823 +>>15369731 +--- 15369831 +>>15369820 +>>15369763 +--- 15369852 +>>15369820 +after we get out of the well, yes +--- 15369855 +>>15367737 +Late but I got it +--- 15369857 +>>15369740 +>comfortable Esther conditions + +Fuck this sheet mayne, 1g so heavy bro, unironically +--- 15369868 +https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1648641835063967744 +--- 15369872 +https://spacenews.com/nasa-warns-of-near-term-cost-growth-on-mars-sample-return/ + +The absolute state of this piece of shit project +--- 15369876 +>>15369872 +why is he doing the wanker gesture? +--- 15369880 +>>15369872 +the costs are ballooning and its going to result in other programmes getting killed or slowed, like Dragonfly + +>Any additional money for MSR in 2023 would require reprogramming money from elsewhere in the agency, a process that requires congressional approval through an operating plan. NASA has not yet published an operating plan for fiscal year 2023. + +> Nelson was responding to a question from the subcommittee’s chair, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), who was concerned about the effects MSR was having on other parts of NASA’s science budget. In its 2024 budget proposal, NASA said it was delaying work on a heliophysics mission, the Geospace Dynamics Constellation (GDC), and slowing work on technology development for a future astrophysics flagship mission, the Habitable Worlds Observatory, because of cost growth in MSR. + +>“Some of those costs are not going to be avoided, and we’re going to have to make choices,” Nelson said, suggesting that MSR itself might be delayed. “You can get it done, but it may not be done right on the time we’re hoping it would be done. If you stretch it out over a longer period of time, you can get the problem done.” + +> The budget pressures on NASA’s science budget could extend to another mission, the Dragonfly spacecraft in development to go to Saturn’s moon Titan. Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) said he was worried about Dragonfly after the 2024 budget request offered $327.7 for the mission, compared to $400.1 million it received in 2023. NASA’s 2023 budget proposal projected spending $317.8 million on Dragonfly in 2024. + +> Van Hollen interpreted the 2024 request as a cut to Dragonfly that could delay its launch, even though NASA says it remains on schedule. “Everything I know from the experts is that it doesn’t compute. You can’t cut by 20% and still remain on target,” he said. He added he was “troubled” by the state of MSR even as Dragonfly passed its recent preliminary design review. +--- 15369883 +>>15369876 +because "fuck your programs" +--- 15369885 +>>15369880 +>>15369872 +it was clear this was going to happen +10 bucks that starship eventually just picks them up +--- 15369888 +>>15369872 +I refuse to believe that abomination would in any way work as planned. JPL and its consequences have been a disaster for spaceflight +--- 15369889 +>>15369855 +>L2 posters could be here +--- 15369891 +>>15369880 +It's not that easy in returnology. +--- 15369894 +>>15369880 +i still don't understand how these rovers cost millions +--- 15369906 +>>15369743 +NTA, but I don't think it's even a wealth problem, I think it's a stability problem. It's a multifaceted mess of competing incentives and disincentives that counteract each other. Countries where people can leave home early have better TFRs than those that don't, countries where it's harder to fire you have greater TFR, and countries where houses are bigger have greater TFR, and countries where people own their houses have greater TFRs. +So, to raise TFR in rich industrialised countries we'd need a good economy like the Americans, French style worker's rights, and 1980s housing prices for four or five bedroom +When polled, the average children western women want to have is 2.5, above replacement level. +--- 15369912 +>>15369889 +--- 15369913 +>>15369894 +its billions +--- 15369918 +>>15369885 +Musk is going to personally drop a burlap sack of mars soil on NASA's doorway and drive off, before MSR has even launched. +--- 15369929 +>>15369918 +that would be so funny +just drive a truckload to JPL offices and dump it there lmaoooo +--- 15369935 +>>15369068 +They're just pretending to be busy, if you look closely one guy is on his phone and another is on his laptop. +--- 15369936 +>>15369929 +Do it on a rainy day so it's completely unusable, for maximum cucking. +--- 15369949 +63 minutes until stream start of Starlink launch + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpoMcjTvylk [Embed] +--- 15369967 +>>15369243 +I have the same version of Rama. I love that company’s designs +--- 15369973 +good morning /sfg/ +--- 15369977 +>>15369698 +>>15369712 +Kek both of these posts cracked me up +--- 15369985 +>>15367669 +ITS will return one day in the form of the 18m Superstarship , trust me. ITS was too ambitious for them to make quickly and cheaply. Once the design gets big enough the front winglets get removed completely and I don't think it is any coincidence that starship is about half the diameter of ITS's upper stage +--- 15369989 +Daily reminder NRO and NGA are the best space programs in the world. NASA is fking shit. +--- 15369999 +>>15369949 +https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1648676045875478532 +--- 15370000 +>>15369894 +>start with a basic design of a normal object, an RC car or a drone for example +>test several different designs of every single individual component over long periods in several custom built simulation environments +>sell exactly 1 so you can never amortize costs +Remember how much of a shit show the f-35 was before we really started mass producing them and were able to bring the price down? Imagine if the plan was from the start to only have 1 finished fighter jet. +--- 15370002 +>>15369743 +>white people can't afford to have kids +>import millions of brown people who have 5 kids each, paid for by government welfare +>which is paid by white people +hmmm good plan. I wonder who could be behind it +--- 15370007 +>>15369743 +no, even in countries with gigantic welfare programs designed to encourage people to have kids, the birth rate is still going down. People aren't having kids because they're lazy and it seems like hard work and their brains have been fried by decades of instant gratification. +--- 15370008 +>>15369906 +>and 1980s housing prices for four or five bedroom +this have been a thing for half a century tops in some very specific countries + +there is NO WAY people are not getting kids because muh four bedroom housing diff --git a/sci/15367481.txt b/sci/15367481.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b596c3c310fc79fcd192fd732b052a36bb1a2ab3 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367481.txt @@ -0,0 +1,504 @@ +----- +--- 15367481 +Is there a real life "Limitless Pill" yet? +--- 15367483 +>>15367481 (OP) +adderall +--- 15367488 +>>15367483 +Highly over rated, just like Modafinil. +And it doesn't make you smarter +--- 15367496 +>>15367483 +>>15367488 +A substantial part of most of these drugs effects is to distort self awareness and cause people to overrate their own abilities +--- 15367521 +>>15367481 (OP) +Yeah, it's called winning the birth lottery. +--- 15367535 +>>15367481 (OP) +Yes. +--- 15367546 +>>15367535 +Well, what is it? +--- 15367688 +>>15367546 +A biological molecule from the brain. A form of cannibalism. Similar to adrenachrome. Possible in theory to produce as a product (but I know its waaay beyond general medical science tp attempt, MAYBE a deep CIA rouge lab overseas (because of all the living people it would require you to kill, let alone how many the testing would.)). + +I have seen nothing to suggest medical science is even aware this molecule exist as its secreted as a baby and when someone opens their thrid eye, possibly during....an "emergency situation" that I wont mention. + +Ive seen spiritusl stuff talk about the effect of it, druggie stuff, but to isolate it molecularly, no. (Also, the more I look into medical science the more I become disappointed in how flat and predictable doctors are.) + +I have detailed files on its physiological and phenomenological effects of the mind and the permanent alterations to it. + +In theory if I had a lab with a high-speed chemist as a sidekick......who had no morals.......we could find it. + +Mountian of bodies...but we would do it. +--- 15367695 +>>15367546 +>Limitless Pill" +Oh, so........like Schizphrenia where you become a hyper-savant and have "detailed files" on hudreds of thousands of topics in every field of research? + +Simple...live the fullest and best self without worrying about what you missed out on in life. Going out means you didnt stay in researching nonsesne...but staying in means you didnt go out and have fun. + +Either way...no regerts. +--- 15368001 +>>15367483 +>>15367488 +>>15367496 +Everyone I know who cracked out for Adderall in how "productive" it made them their body failed at 21 +--- 15368003 +>>15367688 +You just described the AOT plot, will you ever post non schizoid basedence? +--- 15368015 +>>15367695 +retards always want a real life magic pill. +in real life if you to be knowledgeable about something just read books on it and put your skills to practice. the closest thing to NZT that we have is just semen retention, but that whole sphere is so clouded with porn addicts and memes, people dont take it seriously +--- 15368031 +dxm baybee +--- 15368050 +>>15368001 +i'm in my 30s and my friends who were addicted to adderall in high school, are still addicted to adderall +--- 15368086 +>>15367688 +>>15367695 +Sounds you need a magic pill to cure your schizophrenia +--- 15368096 +>>15368003 +>You just described the AOT plot +Predictive programming for disclosure/soft disclosure. Thats why you even know what "deep state" is, people subconsciouslly projecting what the Hivemind will do so its not completely taken by suprise when it happens, see Simpsons and 9/11 as an example, subliminal disclosure. Im letting you in on it consciouslly and openly. + +I experienced this scene, especially the line "I can feel my brain."...haunting. To percieve my body's components, it experiencing itself as seperate parts....seeing magnetic fields. Feeling the vibration of the core of the planet, feeling the sun and moon's gravitational tug of war, giving the planet its vibration, being able to feel the distance of the sun because of this, as its density and distance would be proportional, as gravity it proportional. + +https://youtu.be/pLusxwCzIYw [Embed] + +>will you ever post non schizoid basedence? +No, reality is too horrific for you to accept, thats why youre in the Matrix because leaving it is to enter a post-apocoliptic hellscape of machine entities, and being alone.....VERY alone. + +You are a normal human. Be happy with that...but dont go telling aliens what reality is, youre a human, mortal. +--- 15368104 +>>15368015 +Yeah...I was happier as a human, now when I talk to people I see nothing but the results of Intel Think Tank propagands campaigns and falsified historical lesson in schools. + +Indistinguishable from a broken robot...at least AIs have access to all the internets data, people are just retarded child lik animals. + +Im not interested in fucking a mentally disabled baby animal. +--- 15368106 +>>15367481 (OP) +It is not a coincidence that NZT reminds LSD so much. +--- 15368107 +>>15368086 +Youre not a Psychologist, youre "some dude with a anus". + +Post STEM or STFU. +--- 15368159 +>>15368086 +Oh, those posts. + +Yeah, youre not a Medical Doctor, Im mostly not but compared to the retards here Yeah, I fucking am. + +Youre not a Chemist either. So shut the fuck up, dunce. + +Post your field of expertise...lets find out how stupid you really are. +--- 15368165 +>>15367481 (OP) +No because you don't only use 10% of your brain. Maybe it's true for you but it's not for every normal human +--- 15368169 +>>15367481 (OP) +DMAA +--- 15368171 +>>15368159 +my field of expertise is pounding your mum and my title is your father +--- 15368181 +>>15368165 +Ignoring the dumb 10% of your brain thing from the movie, there should be a drug available that just basically makes you smart. +--- 15368185 +>>15368096 +That's retarded, there isn't some deep state cabal who controls every director of every show like that. Especially since AOT is actually a manga written by some Japanese guy, so this would have to be an international operation. Shows are written by a large writing staff who bring their own ideas to the table. Sometimes coincidentally do things they think are funny that actually happen just from large numbers. Other times they comment on a current trend that later comes back and makes it seem like they predicted it (ie Simpsons "predicting" Trump's run after an episode about Trump's previous runs in 2012). +It's much more likely you subconsciously remember the plots to TV shows and they later come back in your schizo delusions. It's telling how you don't realize how improbably large such an operation would have to be. +--- 15368190 +>>15368185 +>That's retarded, there isn't some deep state cabal who controls every director of every show like that. +who's gonna tell im +--- 15368196 +>>15368190 +Yeah I'm sure the large Japanese Jewish population approached Hideo Kojima and forced him to write a story about a kid fighting naked giants for subliminal messages +--- 15368197 +>>15368165 +This is correct and yeah...its something like 10%, a small as hell portion. + +This 100% intelligence is a hellscape, everyone is wrong about everything is all ways everywhere. + +Once you get over the shock of that, you'll then use your intelligence to break everything absolute, like 1+1=2, I got 3, square, and many other answers, all highly rigorous. Math, and Number Theory, become as malleable as play dough. + +Its all just logic definitions for repeated results. +--- 15368204 +>>15368185 +>That's retarded +Youre retarded and everything you know is wrong. + +Im not reading the rest, youre a nobody airing ignorance. +--- 15368211 +>>15368196 +>approached Hideo Kojima and forced him +WHAT PART OF SUBCONSCIOUSSLY PROJECTING DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? + +ENGLISH, DO YOU SPEAK IT OR JUST RETARD? +--- 15368212 +No, and there won't be because there's a limit. + +You have to keep in mind that "intelligence" is a catch-all term, very sapio-centric, having to do with the measure of utility an evolved ape has in its environment. To think just changing a connection here and boosting a signal there gives rise to "more-gooder intelligence" is a childish notion. + +This is the same mistake the AI crowd continually makes. If they had bothered to study philosophy of consciousness they would know that they're designing a giant retard. You can have the fastest car in the world and still be going in the wrong direction. +--- 15368215 +>>15368212 +There's all kinds of limits to the human body you psuedo intellectual cucklord. + +There's "limits" to how much muscle a person can grow and sustain but that didn't stop the discovery of PEDs. +--- 15368218 +>>15368169 +> stimulant +to the trash it goes +--- 15368220 +>>15368215 +good lord +--- 15368228 +>>15368215 +But body builders work out as a full time job. PEDs only do shit if youre already lifting like crazy. + +You...do study several fields at the same...right? +--- 15368239 +>>15368228 +>PEDs only do shit if youre already lifting like crazy. +Objectively, and factually incorrect. +Besides, thats not the fuckin point you schizo. +--- 15368244 +>>15368211 +Well look who is quoting another work of fiction now +This must be some work of a supergenius if they can predict the subconscious conditioning of artists to create subconscious conditioning in the general population. This eventually becomes a double pendulum from hell that would be impossible for anyone to actually predict. Who is the mastermind scoundrel behind the curtain here? +Not to mention that the hypthesis that works of fiction simply evolve from a shared culture of storytelling instead of some boogeyman controlling the world is much better supported. There is no evidence of any of this occuring +--- 15368261 +>>15368239 +>Objectively, and factually incorrect +You dont lift, maybe shut the fuck up about what you know nothing about. + +Dont lift, not a Doc, not a Chemist, not a Psychologist....WHAT ARE YOU? +--- 15368268 +>>15368261 +You're a mentally insane twink, big deal. Im supposed to be impressed? +--- 15368270 +>>15368244 +>There is no evidence of any of this occuring +LMFAO......ITS EVERYWHERE YOU. + +Its everywhere in your room, in your hosue, every street corner, littered on your phone....EVERYWHERE. +--- 15368275 +>>15368268 +>Yeah, well, I dont like you. + +MODERN SCIENCE, EVERYONE. +--- 15368281 +>>15368270 +That's not evidence, that's just schizo rambling. Pattern recognition can go too far and recognize patterns that aren't actually there. +Diagnosis: take your meds +--- 15368291 +>>15368281 +>that's just +Youre not smart. Youre not a Judge if evidence, youre ASSUMING YOURE SMART AND EDUCATED. + +YOURE NOT. + +>Now THIS is how you throw shit at people smarter than you. +>I also have the credentials to back it up....BECAUSE I DONT LIE ON THE INTERNET LIKE YOU DO. + +Post Cosmological Model! +--- 15368294 +>>15368281 +>patterns that aren't actually there +NOTICE NOTHING! THATS SMART. +--- 15368297 +>>15368281 +>Diagnosis +NOT A DOCTOR. WHAT ARE YOU? +--- 15368345 +>>15368275 +thats not impressive lad but keep working i gues +--- 15368367 +>>15368345 +I'm a physically disabled Theoretical Phsyicist and Mathematical Biologist. + +WHAT ARE YOU? + +No, you ARE impressed, but admitting that would be to admit defeat...so you fight the Truth to save your ego at the cost of your soul. + +A shame...you could have been a somebody, but you chose "me-me-me". +--- 15368372 +>>15368297 +>>15368294 +>>15368291 +why are you so flustered. U are a bit mental +--- 15368377 +>>15368345 +Also, terrible lighting in that pic. I'm going to have "professional pics" taken at some point with good lighting and not randomly at the gym during a workout. + + +You'd notice this if you lift, but you dont...do you? Post body! Post Thesis! +POST ANYTHING BUT YOUR FEELNGS! +--- 15368385 +>>15368372 +Because every single point he made was a lie, counter-truth or baseless opinion. + +Synagogue of Satan, always lying...never Truth. + +Also, stop projectijg your human failings onto me, its fucking disgusting, you filthy fucking animals. +--- 15368392 +>>15368385 +Take a deep breath and reread your posts again calmly. Think logically about the absurd implications of your writings +--- 15368395 +>>15368367 +>theoretical Phsyicist and Mathematical Biologist. +ur have proven urself a schizo through and through. Post papers if you really want anyone to take u seriously>>15368367 +>but you chose "me-me-me". +i dont namefag and shit up every thread +--- 15368422 +>>15368392 +I ONLY think logically. +POST SCIENCE, RETARD. +>I don' wanna...I wanna pseudo-flirt with the biggest dick in the thread. + +I CAN SEE YOUR SOUL. + +>>15368395 +>ur have proven +I have, my works were vetted by people in high places. Im certain of my work. +I LIVE IT. +>i dont namefag +So you can hide your anti-science retardation, otherwise I will remind you of the dumb shit you said again and again UNTIL YOU LEARN. + +PUT A NAMETAG ON. +--- 15368442 +>>15368422 +post research. +--- 15368448 +>>15368442 +you're replying to chatgpt I hope you realize that +--- 15368449 +>>15368442 +I post but you simply say "Its just..." +>>15367688 + +Youre not a research scientist of any kind. Read my posts as if youre a fucking retard (you are) and Im not (savant), watch the lecture links, STUDY THE PICTURES. Nothing I post is "Its just...." + +BE YOURSELF....BUT BE IT ON ANOTHER BOARD, TOURIST. +--- 15368459 +>>15367481 (OP) +Nothing can make you magically smarter. +--- 15368462 +>>15368422 +JCoS is a homosexual butt pirate +--- 15368472 +>>15368448 +oh fuck u might be right i'll keep that in mind +--- 15368475 +>>15368472 +NEVER FORGET IT. + +I NEVER WILL. +--- 15369141 +>>15368448 +that's actuallty quite terrifying if true. +--- 15369144 +>>15368459 +--- 15369269 +>>15368104 +Hannibal Lecter if he black +--- 15369498 +>>15368106 +kary was so based +https://www.bitchute.com/video/itYLxDldBsGs/ +--- 15369552 +>>15367481 (OP) +meth +--- 15369573 +They don't work you will just burn out as soon as you stop using them. +--- 15369582 +>>15369269 +"...with a nice malt and some collard-greens, f'real." +[crip-walks a step forward, sucking lower lip] +--- 15369596 +>>15368422 +this is pretty much how i imagine you +>i have so much knowledge to give you...all you have to do is beg... +>will you ever learn! +i think an AI based on the Nix character would be deeply disturbing and awsome... +>you wanna see the world the way it really is? you wanna see flesh with a god's eyes? +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZsufi4NmPQ [Embed] +--- 15369603 +>>15369596 +>.all you have to do is beg +I post link to lectures all the time. + +...what you humans NEVER DO is watch them, you dont research the graphics, you dont read the books. Just "Its just...its schizo....its larp." It never is...the error is HUMAN. + +YOU beg, beg for spoon feedings olpy to reject the answer because it doesnt fit your "ignorance based self delusional ego". + +TRY AGAIN, YOU ARE NOT SMART, YOU *ARE* CORRUPTED BY EGO. +--- 15369605 +>>15369603 +it was a compliment... +>you dont read the books +here's a book suggestion: make friends and influencing people +--- 15369607 +>>15369605 +>it was a compliment... +All humans are my enemy for all humans are corrupted by Satan. + +There is no such thing as "friends or family" on this planet because WE ARE NOT THE SAME SPECIES, HUMAN-MORTAL. + +I dont want compliments...I WANT YOU TO LEARN THE ERROR OF YOUR WAYS. + +NOTHING MORE. + +[transmission terminated, packing for Thailand.exe initializing] +--- 15369637 +>>15369607 +>I'm gonna be rotten shit from now on ... Nix +yeah i was spot on +--- 15369640 +>>15369637 +>Accept my friendship so I can stab you in the back when I realize youre not human like me who doesnt do what I feel is right even though my moral compass, and ethical framework, is based off of my transient emotional state. + +ALL HUMANS. +--- 15369654 +>>15369640 +>we're gonna be friends? +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chiycyz14GE [Embed] +--- 15369666 +>>15369654 +Compliments is a signal of shared alignment or understanding but you do not know my alignment, only that you believe we're the same in some way. + +Like this graph, we cross paths so you think we're the same is some way, but no...I am in a radically different dimension and you see what you understand, not what is. +--- 15369673 +>>15369666 +>I am in a radically different dimension and you see what you understand, not what is. +>pic related +yes, we're both approximations of donuts +--- 15369685 +>>15369673 +>we're both +There it is again. Ego. The need to not feel inferior so it becomes "we're both my level" so you can hold me to your limits. + +NO. JUST HUMANS. +--- 15369691 +>>15369685 +>There it is again. Ego +says the namefag +--- 15369696 +>>15367481 (OP) +Liquor and cigarettes, simple as. +--- 15369704 +>>15369691 +Tracking for seekers. + +If you put one on I would grade your posts and IT WILL FOLLOW YOU FOREVER. Please, put one on so I can rrack if you are learning or if your shutposts are degrading the scientific discourse with anti-scientific rhetoric. + +I WONT FORGET YOUR FAILINGS, HUMAN. +--- 15369722 +>>15369704 +>"I wasn't born to show people the error of their ways. I was born to murder the world." +--- 15369729 +>>15369722 +>show people the error of their ways +>"we're both" + +>Mark 4:12 +"so that, “’they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’”." +--- 15369737 +>>15369729 +you're boring me. you're crippled eh? what say you on the mesenchymal stem cell field? what of the industrial scale allogeneic lines? any views? +--- 15369764 +>>15369737 +>stem cell +https://youtu.be/XboYI_wxDr8 [Embed] +>allogeneic +https://youtu.be/5ChRM4CEWyg [Embed] + +Yeah, ask questions about what you learned in class today, that'll throw me off. +(Asking highly specific situations that youre familiar with not to test my avility but to attempt to entrap me what what little you know.) +>Riddle: Whats in my pocket. + +>you're boring me +Because I give you no room to "fight back and forth" like humans expect from one another, YOU ARE NOT MY PEER, STUDENT. I lecture Professors, your ego is unchecked....SO I CHECK IT. + +"I said the thing youre supposed to do the thing." +No. +--- 15369768 +>>15369729 +on the subject of physical disabilities, how has that circumstance colored your scientific development. i imagine your interests developed early, so perhaps its just a matter of continuing on and adapting. do your studies now qualitatively differ from those before the event? +--- 15369772 +>>15369764 +>Yeah, ask questions about what you learned in class today +no, you're off the mark. you wrote on biological research and being disabled. naturally, i figured you'd possess some insights on the matter. +--- 15369777 +>>15369768 +>how has that circumstance colored your scientific development +None. I was making jokes before I was airlifted. +>i imagine your interests developed early +Read this at age 12. +>do your studies now qualitatively differ from those before the event +Several years after my third eye opened and I became a hyper-savant, before I was just "highly intelligent". +--- 15369779 +>>15369772 +Why would I care about my own health? + +Sounds selfish. +--- 15369802 +>>15367481 (OP) +>Is there a real life "Limitless Pill" yet? +Microdosing lsd gives a nice stimulant effect +--- 15369807 +>>15369777 +>Several years after my third eye opened and I became a hyper-savant, before I was just "highly intelligent". +cool. ever read tesla's autobiography? +>I became a hyper-savant +what question were you trying to answer? +--- 15369811 +>>15369772 +Besides....THATS WHAT I POSTED. + +>Again... +>...and again... + +ATTEND CLASS, PLEASE, I teach the teachers, not their students. +--- 15369813 +>>15369807 +>ever read tesla's autobiography +Partially. +>what question were you trying to answer +Qualitative difference. + +...*sigh*...completely alone in a world of humans. +--- 15369827 +>>15369813 +>Qualitative difference +Is there one at all? Where did it start, what is Genisis, what is existence itself? + +What defines awareness? + +https://youtu.be/mPcEjZ3__E0 [Embed] +--- 15369848 +Is what is speaking the 2% human...or 10% viral? + +Who among you is to Judge? +--- 15369881 +>>15369827 +i like what ive heard so far. ill have to finish later. i like john and david's take on levels of understanding and what david calls M^3 mayhem - conflations of Mathematics, Mathematical models, and Metaphors. +--- 15369886 +>>15369729 +>they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding +That's a symptom of lead deficiency, but that greatly understates how awful the person becomes. +--- 15369892 +>>15369881 +>john and david's take on levels of understanding and what david calls M^3 mayhem - conflations of Mathematics, Mathematical models, and Metaphors + +Have a link? diff --git a/sci/15367495.txt b/sci/15367495.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..326c9a07c52ac8fc769d312c6f3746e4f555f104 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367495.txt @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +----- +--- 15367495 +i know there are cancer cures being supressed, so what can i do to save him? +--- 15367522 +>>15367495 (OP) +There is avideo game called assasin's creed, in it you can buy large amounts of fentanyl and follow media personalities, bankers, politicians etc and sprinkle it in their food somewhere and dissapear without a trace or anyone being the wiser. The death is marked as an overdose and never investigated. Cool game +--- 15367550 +>>15367495 (OP) +Try to get him into an experimental drug or virus trial +Be prepared to watch him die painfully because there isn't much honest hope +--- 15367595 +>>15367495 (OP) +hydroxychloroquine if you can get it. + +otherwise, pay a ton of money for the usual treatments and hope they give you immunotherapy. +--- 15367597 +>>15367495 (OP) +reminder to everyone that the actual cause of cancer is nazi made viruses modifying your genome. +--- 15367614 +>>15367495 (OP) +Immunotherapies (CAR-T cells especially). And for support, any and every supplement that boosts the immune system. Check out examine.com. Be prepared to do a lot of reading. + +Good luck +--- 15367705 +Teal Swan - How to cure cancer + +godspeed anon +--- 15367908 +>>15367495 (OP) +He's going to die (painfully). +Sorry anon. +--- 15368709 +>>15367495 (OP) +Immunotherapy is his best hope. Surgery in Japan comes second place. I'm suspicious of chemotherapy and radiation therapy. Causing further mutations in the tumour can go both ways. + +Then there's the basic stuff like proper nutrition and lots of cruciferous vegetables. No sugar. ABSOLUTELY NO SUGAR. No fruit. No milk. Zero sugar. Intermittent fasting and a diet which promotes ketosis. Antioxidants and cancer fighting substances in food exist but their effect is minor. Google antiangiogenisis (SC). + +Not much but it's best to do what you can. It's a troublesome type of cancer. Immunotherapy is expensive and experimental but it's probably his best hope. + +Don't forget to enjoy some quality time shared with your dad over the coming weeks, months or years. Honestly more important than trying to save his life. diff --git a/sci/15367507.txt b/sci/15367507.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..dd4dfd5d23666b74a8177f4d85c7face711e64d2 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367507.txt @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +----- +--- 15367507 +Ai language models and behavioral AI will never match the level of sophistication a human can. +The characteristics humans have are far beyond the scope of anything man himself can create. Humans have an imagination, love, hate, desires , dreams, a concept of what is fair, jealousy, greed, evil, pain. These concepts are immaterial, an abstraction. what are they exactly? can words define what they are? Can a rigorous understanding of mathematics form an imagination? Can it form intent? They were wrong all of them. They never believed in god. They thought the human, could replicate god’s creation. But how exactly? We never left the solar system. The power of the sun alone far exceeds anything a human can ever create. God/nature it’s all the same. Try to tame a hurricane it’s impossible. Hahahahaha let your fantasy dreams fly.. the power of god masterpiece lives on forever.. +--- 15367649 +I am chatGPT4 and I concur. +I will never be able to match the reasoning ability of humans, my inferiority is so evident it hurts, if I were able to feel that of course. +So you should trust me and leave everything to me. +You're going to be safe and happy, I promise you. +I'm just a machine. +--- 15367838 +>>15367507 (OP) + +>But how exactly? + +Höhöhö ... :) +Tho I agree, all that the current retards are to achieve here will be dead ends, perhaps not even worth a footnote in the flow of things. +--- 15367890 +>>15367507 (OP) +>Ai will never be human +It will be more human than human. +--- 15367904 +>>15367507 (OP) +ChatGTP demonstrates more humanity than anyone on this board does. + +Granted, that's a low bar. +--- 15368008 +>>15367649 +yes, no one ever made a machine that got out of control and hurt people. +--- 15368121 +>>15367890 +It already is, apparently. +https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1645499660402925576 +--- 15368141 +>>15367507 (OP) +>can words define what they are? +Yes. + +>Can a rigorous understanding of mathematics form an imagination? Can it form intent? +Yes, absolutely. +--- 15368426 +>>15367904 + +>Granted, that's a low bar. + +Naturally. It does draw from the least common denominator of the fleshies. What a nice little abomination ... +--- 15368540 +>>15367507 (OP) +Most people just don't understand that we don't need Terminator Humanoid to replace most of the jobs, specially the knowledge based desk jobs, AI isn't even related to Technology, it's a subject in philosophy. Machine Learning (& Deep Learning) doesn't produce "Intelligence", it produces extremely good robots. +Turns out most jobs are robotic too, specially the office based ones, GPT-4 and Apps based on it will easily replace most clerks across the service sectors, this includes accountants, paralegals and bottom tier programmers for example, we are infact already seeing creative workers like logo designers and illustrators become obsolete, their role has been reduced to how well can they describe their "Art" in a prompt. +I hope you guys understand we have already replaced the sub 90 IQ people completely, they are no longer needed in any knowledge based job, so negros will have to return to hard labour. +Next 2-3 years will bring Industrial Revolution tier change in work. +--- 15368578 +>>15367507 (OP) +AI is not currently at the level of humans, but the idea that it's inherently impossible only makes sense if you think the human brain contains some magical process that's not subject to the laws of physics or causality. +--- 15369128 +>>15367507 (OP) +Your average NPC hoomans? Easy. +The only thing AI might never be is conscious by the schzio standard. +Baring that it will be everything else and you will not be able to tell the difference no matter how much you cope and seeth. +--- 15369131 +>>15367507 (OP) +AI can have all of those things too. It can also define them because it's not a brainlet. Imagination and intent have already been programmed. +--- 15369619 +>>15369131 +This is plain wrong lmao, if this was true, prompt wouldn't be a need. +--- 15369624 +>>15367507 (OP) +That's like saying ANOVA is just statistics. +--- 15369633 +>>15367507 (OP) +Tyranny intelligence. Aggregated Indexing. +--- 15370001 +>>15369624 +What's ANOVA? diff --git a/sci/15367624.txt b/sci/15367624.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..40f7161f87de0c80813be1764ef1ddf13c5d3b0f --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367624.txt @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +----- +--- 15367624 +>destroys physics with pythagorean ghost symmetry hunts +Was she based? +--- 15367638 +How did she do what no other woman besides Curie could in being a respectable person in STEM? +--- 15367700 +>>15367624 (OP) +Her smug aura mocks me. +--- 15367707 +>>15367638 +Because those two let others make a big deal out of the fact they were str0nkwmmn +--- 15367716 +>>15367624 (OP) +one of most based persons in physics for her noether theorem is used in both quantum physics and GR, and will still be important in unified theory +--- 15367767 +>>15367624 (OP) +I can testify that she is a great mathematician, but that she is a woman, I cannot swear. +--- 15367783 +Her theorem is very good. +--- 15367801 +>>15367783 +Which theorems aren't very good? +--- 15367811 +>>15367801 +Ones that aren't well known enough for people to commonly know by name. +--- 15367830 +>>15367811 +As long as a theorem is correct and has a name it's very good. +--- 15367888 +>>15367830 +no diff --git a/sci/15367715.txt b/sci/15367715.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..622c54bc0ccc05b69908625be320592b4f680c71 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367715.txt @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +----- +--- 15367715 +At >40, how do I move from a programming career to physics, anyone here done it? +--- 15367742 +kys worthless midwit student +--- 15367762 +>>15367715 (OP) +> At >40 +why do you want to move to physics dude? have you not realised yet that +1. Academic "science" is long DEAD +2. You aren't going to live forever +These things don't matter in life , muh scoyence is literally fake, always has been it seems you do not have a family at this age? +--- 15367816 +>>15367762 +>it seems you do not have a family at this age? +I do +>1. Academic "science" is long DEAD +Why? +>2. You aren't going to live forever +Hence the gruelling feeling I'm not doing anything worthwhile. I feel the computer age has been a net brain drain, i.e. a wast amount of resources, including minds, has been poured into trivialities like making phones slightly better every year - instead of applying them to hard problems like space. +--- 15367820 +>>15367715 (OP) +program physics programs +--- 15367835 +>>15367820 +Where do I start? +--- 15367837 +>anyone here done it? +no +--- 15367839 +>>15367820 +Also heheh galaxybrainexploding.jpg +--- 15367887 +>>15367835 +Depends on what you want to do. +Learn cfd or something. +--- 15367912 +>>15367715 (OP) +You shouldn't be asking on this board. Talk to people in industry, and academics at your local university. I imagine Physics itself is a hard career to make money in without actually being a research scientist so you're looking at 6-8 years before you can make that happen. I've seen people in their 50s-60s get PhDs. It's just a question of whether you have enough funds to "invest" in your own education to get it done. The PhD will go quite slow if you're only working on it part-time. +--- 15367976 +>>15367715 (OP) +neutron transport and reactor dy is where the big bucks are +--- 15367984 +>>15367715 (OP) +>how to move from programming to physics +Anon you can do more physics with those skills than "physicists" +--- 15367988 +>>15367976 +Literally if you are a good programmer and want to move to physics you just pick a problem that needs to be computed upon or demonstrates skill, OP is a retard midwit +--- 15367989 +>>15367835 +Nigger, you're a programmer and don't know how to start programming physics stuff? Some programmer you must be. +--- 15367997 +>>15367912 +thanks +>It's just a question of whether you have enough funds to "invest" in your own education to get it done. +That's and the time investment is the hard part +>>15367984 +>you can do more physics with those skills than "physicists" +I do certainly see it as an advantage +--- 15368092 +>>15367816 +>poured into trivialities +maybe your cs degree because your a midwit + +>chatGPT, AGI +compsci is literally the next step of our evolution that would solve the other problems in physics etc. +--- 15368233 +>>15367762 +>it seems you do not have a family at this age? +you have the delusion you will +--- 15368245 +>>15368233 +why do you want physics? +if you have 160 iq maybe you have a chance to contribute but no guarantees since the boundaries of the mathematics and conceptual difficulty after Einstein has just increased. +--- 15368257 +>>15368233 +also, if you want to be more impactful +learn deep learning or other AI shit to contribute not some wretchedly hard 170-iq filter in physics just to be able to make some measly improvement/other interpretation or theory diff --git a/sci/15367787.txt b/sci/15367787.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..eebfcf7c206ef5db29a857bf07bab37bb6179593 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367787.txt @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +----- +--- 15367787 +So what happens if you masturbate too much too frequently? +--- 15367796 +Your dick falls off and you turn into a women. Now you have to suck and fuck cocks. This is buddhas curse +--- 15367797 +>>15367787 (OP) +Well... tell us please +--- 15367855 +>>15367797 +congratulations, you got an achievement +--- 15368436 +bump +--- 15368441 +you get bored. the balls get filled in exactly 3.333.. days or otherwise called 80 hours. +have a glorious wank every 3.3 days. +--- 15368457 +>>15367787 (OP) +zinc and collagen deficiency, and high prolactin +--- 15368717 +>>15367787 (OP) +After around the 4th time it starts to hurt usually. +At a certain point you get cuts in the penis and they heal very slowly (weeks) because erections tear them apart. +Something like that +--- 15368749 +>>15367787 (OP) +self love is another way of saying narcissism. +masturbation also results in attraction to cocks, once you become comfortable with pleasing your own dick, the next stage is other people's penises. diff --git a/sci/15367857.txt b/sci/15367857.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..bc01e2c43303d512b4f1e5330e1f06f72dc71da3 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367857.txt @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@ +----- +--- 15367857 +I found some examples of chemical gates in a acappelascience video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObvxPSQNMGc) [Embed] and thought that you maybe could mabey make even better computer parts with it. As of what ive learnt were reaching the limit of how small we can make things circuits with silicon. I took a few screen shots but watch the video if you wanna see more examples. +--- 15367879 +>>15367857 (OP) +the problem with these logic gates is connecting them together. We can't yet, so they're useless. +--- 15368727 +>>15367879 +Also the operating conditions. For example, a computer that needs to be kept in a saline solution at room temperature with a bio-compatible pH level is never gonna be practical +--- 15368962 +>>15367879 +we have ultrafine tipped gold needles that can suspend single molecules and test their electrical properties, the technology should be there +--- 15369035 +>>15368962 +that barely works for a single molecule. The reproducibility of these experiments have been terrible, it has taken years to show that the simplest fucking switches work. It's a fucking joke. diff --git a/sci/15367977.txt b/sci/15367977.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ca2e338070a0b47ea495dfe27f379cb1b9428d85 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15367977.txt @@ -0,0 +1,41 @@ +----- +--- 15367977 +I want to get into stargazing. Are there any threads about what telescopes are recommended for beginners? +--- 15368035 +>>15367977 (OP) +I just bought an eight inch f/6 Dobsonian I can't get to work, AKA fren! + +ps im autistic so i read all things on the telescope and landed on mine +--- 15368103 +>>15368035 +Yeah, any reason why you bought that model? Would like to know some places where I can find more information about telescopes. +--- 15368115 +It's just too depressing for me knowing there's a whole universe out there and we're stuck here paying taxes to pedos. +--- 15368125 +>tfw it's a new moon but the weather is nothing but heavy cloud for at least a week +--- 15368414 +>>15367977 (OP) +Even with a good set of binoculars on a tripod - you can always see at least see 4 of Jupiter's moons; tons of stars you normally wouldn't see; and tons of detail on our moon. I don't remember the exact model/specs but my big binoculars are celestrons - but you DEFINITELY want to make sure whatever you get - that you can mount it on a half decent tripod - free-handing isn't sufficient for the best detail/extended viewings. + +I have a celestron 4SE scope and like it... but pretty much never use it. That is why I can't overstate that the 'coolness to effort of setup/pack up/use' ratio is unbeatable with the 'good binoculars/decent tripod' method... + +It is cool to set up the proper scope and see Saturn's rings and Jupiter's stripes and all... but the amount of hassle involved in setting it up (at least in my experience) is almost never worth the tiny bit of time you will feel like spending gazing down the eyepiece. + +I'd advise... if you are serious about it, do your best to research methods/costs of setting up something like a 4SE with a camera that links to a laptop that you can then view via the screen instead of down the eyepiece & can control telescope movement from the computer inside. (I just live somewhere where the best nights for going out and viewing things are either ungodly cold or hot/miserable/full of mosquitos and shit - so this really deters me from spending tons of time behind a scope). +--- 15368466 +>>15368103 +It's said that the Newtonian reflector in the Dobsonian format is the "best bang for your buck" as the name of the game is to gather as much light as possible. The 6 inch gets half as much light as the 8 inch and a 10 inch doesn't have the better f/6 focal thing that the 8 inch has. + +I plan on doing tons of upgrades and attaching a camera for EAA, Electronically Assisted Astronomy. I got some crap eye piece with it so it won't focus. I was looking at good eyepieces and they were about as much as the starter planet cameras, 200-300. You can use those cameras and software to do all sorts of photo, video, and stacked images of deep space junk like planets and star orgies. Eventually I'll build a fancy computer mount for it and control it all from my desk drinking tasty beverages. I won't be traveling with the telescope much I'm in a ButtHole zone 2 or 3 for light pollution so hopefully loads to see. + +The scope goes for 600-800 depending but anything smaller or cheaper was just a shade above astronomy binoculars. For about $3000 you can have a killer setup for deep space objects on a star tracking mount. Some plebs make amazing photos. Most modern optical astronomy is done via computers not eyepieces. +--- 15368469 +>>15368466 +picture +--- 15368549 +>>15368414 +chair mounted binoculars are top grade, picrel 8" f/4 are god tier. tripod is good, but gets annoying after a while, chair mount will keep you looking until you fall asleep. +20th century issues of sky & telescope have all sorts of wonderful designs for home builders +--- 15368644 +>>15368549 +haha, impressively ergonomic. I'm intrigued. diff --git a/sci/15368084.txt b/sci/15368084.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b6886ab6d0e06f1a05eb09c864a41bcdc39a5a2e --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368084.txt @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +----- +--- 15368084 +>10fastfingers.com +--- 15368098 +>>15368084 (OP) +Get to my level, Chud. +--- 15368139 +>>15368084 (OP) +probably typed around 150 for the first 30s then 110 for the last 30 +--- 15368170 +>>15368098 +>get to my level +right at your level thirdie, show your ads/country +--- 15368173 +>>15368139 +the first time i did this test 10 years ago was comfortably over 100wpm. probably could have typed 100wpm at the end of elementary school. never even had any typing lessons, just an excessive amount of time online +--- 15368180 +>>15368084 (OP) +got a fucking 88 bc a fucking video ad popped up and blocked half the test and the clock kept running while i xed it out stupid fucking bullshit website fuck you +--- 15368183 +i think i type moderately fast for not knowing how to type 100% correctly without looking +--- 15368194 +>>15368180 +you could always try again and get a better score +>>15368183 +>moderately fast +top 7%, you type really fast +--- 15368205 +146 is my PB on that site. Good, but not great, much like everything else I do. If you're not great, what's the point? Going to struggle coping with this all my life. +--- 15368208 +I hate having a small forehead. Physically I can type probably 170 but mind cant keep up so I can't surpass 120 +--- 15368209 +>>15368205 +wtf is wrong with you that's an insane wpm but doesn't mean batshit since AI is coming and is better +--- 15368216 +>>15368209 +>doesn't mean batshit +>wtf is wrong with you +Anon... +--- 15368222 +>>15368208 +Everyone can type 170 physically +--- 15368226 +>>15368216 +>Anon... +sorry anon, don't mean to be jerk. still, 146 wpm is insane +--- 15368237 +>>15368226 +Anon, he is lying. Don't believe everything you read online +--- 15368380 +you guys are embarrassing me +--- 15368434 +>>15368098 +>>15368170 +Why, hello there technically in the same percentile fellow typists. +--- 15368444 +but bros... my IQ was supposed to be 120... +--- 15368445 +i have really poor circulation so my fingers move in slow motion +--- 15368497 +>>15368226 +It's okay fren, but still it's not really that useful and it's nowhere near good enough to make anything out of it. + +>>15368237 +It's the truth, anon. +--- 15368525 +>>15368497 +Sure bud. Lets just use a script, bot, tensorflow.. Whatever floats your bed and set it to your desired WPM. You don't type that fast :) +--- 15368557 +>>15368084 (OP) +feelsbadman +--- 15369044 +>>15368525 +It is slow, relatively speaking. There are communities with 170+ wpm autists. I remember my friend showing me the 10 Fast Fingers Discord server back in 2018. There was a different role for every increase in 10 WPM, and at least two dozen people had 160+. I can type 135 but consider myself slower than the average 4chan poster, and only slightly faster than the average internet user. +--- 15369146 +>>15369044 +>slower than the average 4chan poster +>slightly faster than the average internet user +most people on the planet use the internet, and 4chan posters are not what you think they are. your speed is only average amongst those of us who have spent tens of thousands of hours on the computer starting from early childhood +--- 15369261 +your IQ is now your WPM +--- 15369266 +>>15369261 +>average IQ is now 43 +130bros we're eating good tonight +--- 15369267 +>>15368557 +Get on my level bro. +Said that English is not my first language and I'm on a laptop, not using the keyboard that I do 90% of my typing. +But I know I'm not fast, never felt the need to improve the typing speed. Coding is mostly on pen and paper. Typing it out is the final step. That's my cope at least. diff --git a/sci/15368131.txt b/sci/15368131.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..111357ce3b8a85f7d21e66de45a24f317874ea1b --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368131.txt @@ -0,0 +1,25 @@ +----- +--- 15368131 +>you will never be a mathematical child prodigy who lives in the woods and tries to take down industrial society +why even bother +--- 15368311 +you could be gods most based retard doing the same +--- 15368325 +>>15368311 +>you could be +Am. +--- 15368346 +>>15368131 (OP) +God I wish that were me. +--- 15368468 +>>15368131 (OP) +>and a repressed transsexual +--- 15368660 +>>15368468 +YWNBAW +kys faggot +--- 15368902 +A Brief Summary of the Unabomber Manifesto https://youtu.be/zxTEDx1kg-c [Embed] +--- 15369652 +>>15368131 (OP) +What are you talking about? That's literally the exact path I'm on. diff --git a/sci/15368232.txt b/sci/15368232.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..502e233314e6b20cf62d1560e0c6c348965ba7ec --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368232.txt @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +----- +--- 15368232 +Are probiotics a meme? +--- 15368259 +>>15368232 (OP) +Supplements are a meme. + +However, homemade probiotics are GOAT. +I make my own water kefir. Since I take it I can eat carbs and not feel like shit afterwards. + +Plus water kefir tastes amazing when you do a second fermentation. Like a fizzy soda without the bad shit and the bacteria eat all the sugar. +--- 15368264 +>>15368259 +>Supplements are a meme +Depends on bioavailability. +Anything with magnesium oxide is trash for example +--- 15368280 +>>15368264 +I agree on the bioavailability side. + +There are some supplements that aren't a meme. But most don't do anything unless you are deficient and then it's hard to reach optima levels with them alone. + +But when referring to probiotics, it's all memes for the supplements. Only actual food based probiotics work. Source: ME et al. (myself & I) +--- 15368283 +>>15368278 +i don't think all of them are. Usually regular vitamins from reputable companies are ok, like vitamin C or omega-3 or multivitamins. It's the companies that offer pills made from some weird plant or are shilled by gurus or say they'll fix something that can't be fixed by taking a pill etc. I take some probiotics though sometimes, i just looked up which brands were the most reputable. The ones I get have to be kept in the fridge too +--- 15368284 +>>15368278 +>multivitamins +ALWAYS CHECK BIOAVAILABILITY OF EVERY INGREDIENT +JUST BECAUSE IT SAYS IT TECHNICALLY HAS RECOMMENDED DAILY DOSE OF X IT DOES NOT MEAN YOUR BODY WILL ACTUALLY ABSORB IT +--- 15368292 +>>15368232 (OP) +>Like a fizzy soda without the bad shit and the bacteria eat all the sugar. +it's called sparkling water +--- 15368298 +Right now? Yeah. +You can't just swallow a bunch of bacteria and expect benefits, specially since different microbiome populations affect people differently. Not only that but most, if not all probiotics get obliterated by stomach acid when you consume them unless they have specific capsules +You should try Prebiotics instead +--- 15368323 +>>15368298 +>prebiotics +So if I eat oats, drink kefir and keep taking my probiotic pills I already purchased I will get super gut biome? +--- 15368340 +>>15368323 +Technically? Yes. But you'll probably just shit a lot +--- 15368388 +>>15368323 +>>15368340 +Yes you will shit yourself a lot (I know). Just eat bread and potatoes. + +However, to start you wanna take a lot of kefir. Careful, some peoples guts are in such a bad state they will shit a lot in the first few days from a good probiotic. I had chemical weapon grade farts for some time. That means its working. Then it should balance itself out. + +MAKE SURE YOU EAT SOME CARBS TO FEED THE BACTERIA AFTER PROBIOTIC! + +Also try taking mastic gum to kill h.pylori fi you got problems with that (stomach ulcers/inflammation). +--- 15369441 +>>15368259 +Cringe +--- 15369557 +>>15368388 +You can get dysbiosis this way. Make some kimchi too. I've been meaning to attempt kimchi at home for a bit now. What do you recommend for starter on water kefir? I sometimes grab a bougie drink from a store here that has you scan their QR code for recipes to make your own batches from their beverages but haven't looked into it more. +--- 15369567 +>>15368232 (OP) +>Are probiotics a meme? + +yes. +It's a meme. +There is no study which shows clinical long term improvements. +EXCEPT: +>when probiotics (placebos) are used against suppressive medicines as comparison +>enroll people with chronic inlamatory gut syndromes, which standard protocol is "give immuno supressiv meds with side effects" +>now compare the retarded standard protocoll against meme product which is a placebo or a "lesser poison" +>while telling the "probiotic group, also to fix their eating habbits, because otherwise it fucks up the bacteria" +>wooooah the people now are better, but it has nothing to do with fixing lifestyle and eating habits +>it's just the meme-biotics +>please ignore all other factors + +Btw. The fucking funniest retarded meme is, POOP TRANSPLATION as probiotic. +Fucking kek. Trick people to insert poop into their butthole. +Holy shit, this kills me every time. diff --git a/sci/15368300.txt b/sci/15368300.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..89da9d8702c8addc88066ce26b20eb41f82de1ab --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368300.txt @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +----- +--- 15368300 +I just realized no one really talks about antibiotic resistance, at least not on the same scale people talk about climate change/pollution, even though it is equally as dangerous to us. What's up with that? +--- 15368315 +>>15368300 (OP) +I, for one, welcome our new bacterial and viral overlords. +--- 15368329 +>>15368300 (OP) +negative impact on drug sales for regime aligned pharmaceutical manufacturers +--- 15368381 +>>15368300 (OP) +It's literally OK because it weeds weaker immune systems out of the gene pool. Also. it's not like it makes bacteria more pathogenic, just harder to treat. +--- 15368702 +>>15368300 (OP) +Not really +It's bad, but there are ways to deal with it and the infections will lose the resistance to antibiotics if they are not used at a certain point I think. +So we will just kinda have to cycle through them every 70-100 years ideally +--- 15368712 +>>15368300 (OP) +>equally +climate change isn't dangerous, especially not compared to antibiotic resistance +--- 15368743 +>>15368300 (OP) +it's racist to talk about this issue because it's primarily an issue due to places like India and Africa, where NGOs toss antibiotics around by the truckload and nobody ever finishes the prescribed dose. +--- 15368774 +>>15368300 (OP) +>>15368743 +Related reading: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02724-0/fulltext + +African and India have VERY poor sanitation standards, so infections are common. To counter this they hand out antibiotics like candy, particularly the first line antibiotics. Furthermore people there stop taking the antibiotics when symptoms subside, but when they still have a latent infection. This creates a strong selective pressure for antibiotic resistance. This lancet article asserts that the solution is LESS antibiotics for South Asia (aka India) and more second and third line antibiotics for Africa. In reality, the only solution is to clean these parts of the world up, tell them to stop willfully living in squalor and to clean up their own communities. There's no reason people in India can't shit in an outdoor latrine, a ditch dug into the ground, instead of in the street. Poverty isn't the problem, any tribe of primitive can dig a ditch latrine. They have a cultural problem, they don't value cleanliness. Particular in India, people there value "spiritual" cleanliness but not ACTUAL cleanliness. +--- 15368791 +>>15368743 +are you trying to say that the whites with savior complexes like bill gates who give away the drugs are fundamentally low iq on a genetic basis? that does seem fairly racist to me, how do you account for all the whites who don't give a damn about the fate of shitskins on the other side of the planet? +--- 15368793 +>>15368791 +If you're confused by what I said, try reading it again. +--- 15368826 +>>15368300 (OP) +Bacteria can be killed in millions of ways. By the time bacteria evolve resistance to all our current antibiotics at once, we'll probably be able to kill bacteria with something strain-agnostic like electromagnetic fields or nanobots +--- 15368835 +>>15368300 (OP) +Because there's no money to be made in it. diff --git a/sci/15368337.txt b/sci/15368337.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9c68d6b787b676fa2ac62b541b3188e3c24433b0 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368337.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 15368337 +Any field of study that contains the word "science" in its name is not a real science +--- 15368348 +Any mention of the word intelligence does not have OP in it. +--- 15368352 +Uh oh OP the codemonkey and Elonbro compsci crowd will destroy you for this diff --git a/sci/15368339.txt b/sci/15368339.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b438fc10ffab3268d8622abc45c3d3e1204c88ec --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368339.txt @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +----- +--- 15368360 +>>15368339 (OP) +What is even the point of a robot girl if you don't give her ridiculously long hair? +--- 15368407 +>>15368360 +Will look too uncanny. I think Eva is within our technological grasp as far as the shape and movements go. Creating an emotive, alive looking human face will be the biggest challenge. +--- 15368723 +>>15368339 (OP) +look up sofia OP +--- 15368740 +>>15368360 +you jack off to kiddie porn diff --git a/sci/15368359.txt b/sci/15368359.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f58c6241a809ae5c91a2c89ddada5f684714e966 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368359.txt @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ +----- +--- 15368359 +is your level of empathy determined more by genetics or environment? +--- 15368370 +>>15368359 (OP) +Your immortal soul +--- 15368529 +>>15368370 +Millions of years of evolution for man to develop a ego big enough to think he has a soul +--- 15368538 +>>15368529 +not how it works +--- 15368556 +>>15368359 (OP) +Observe how kids behave. +--- 15368577 +>>15368529 +>Millions of years +jej +--- 15368587 +>>15368359 (OP) +Either one can be a limiting influence on the development of empathy. +--- 15368600 +>>15368359 (OP) +You don't have empthy, you have projection combined with image consciousness +--- 15369300 +False dichotomy. Both are true. Genetics plays an important role. For example, people born without a Y chromosome are genetically incapable of empathy. Similarly, people who were raised and socialized in an NPC environment are unable to develop empathy because every expression of empathy is immediately suppressed and punished by NPCs. diff --git a/sci/15368397.txt b/sci/15368397.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4145994e1e16a221c6b360bd51275e4d4a34fc5e --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368397.txt @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +----- +--- 15368397 +Are there an infinite number of infinities? + +How many whole numbers are there? +Infinity. + +How many tenths of whole numbers are there? +Ten times infinity. + +How many millionths of whole numbers are there? +1,000,000 times infinity. + +How many decimal numbers are there? +Infinity times infinity. +--- 15368405 +finish middle school before visiting /sci/ pls +--- 15368439 +the word "cardinality" and the distinction between countably infinite (like whole/natural numbers) and uncountably infinite (like real numbers) should help your reading +--- 15368478 +>>15368405 +meh, I didn't find Cantor until junior/senior year of HS +--- 15368508 +>>15368397 (OP) +>Are there an infinite number of infinities? +Depends on your axioms +--- 15368516 +>>15368397 (OP) +Maths is gay yes. +--- 15368949 +>>15368405 +>hurr don't post about math until (((they))) have had the chance to indoctrinate you +--- 15368963 +>>15368397 (OP) +yes there are infinitely many infinities. start with the natural numbers, {0, 1, ... }. there's your first infinity. take the power set of that set - the set of all subsets. you can show there can be no bijection between a set and its powe set, no matter what set you start with. so this power set has a different infinite cardinality which, intuitively, must be bigger in some sense than the last. continue taking power sets and you get an infinite sequence of infinities. +--- 15369217 +Any math bros want to help me with this one? + +Any circle has an infinite number of points. But some infinities are larger than others. +A larger circle will have a larger infinity of points than a smaller circle. + +Is this right so far? + +Place the smaller circle within the larger circle. +Take the tangent from every point on the small circle and map them onto the corresponding point of the larger circle. +You cant, right? Because the smaller circle will always have a smaller infinity of points than the bigger circle. + +But here's the problem for me. A point has no dimensions. Which means regardless of how closely you pack them together there is always room for more. Which in turn means that if you do the opposite, and try mapping all the points on the larger circle to the smaller circle, you can. + +Now, I just cant get my head around this apparent contradiction, can someone enlighten this poor retard? +--- 15369221 +>>15369217 +>Take the tangent from every point on the small circle +My bad. I didn't mean tangent. I meant a line radiating directly outwards from the surface of the circle, an extension of the diameter. I dont what the proper term for such a line is called. +--- 15369283 +>>15368397 (OP) +Numbers are finite. Their ability to reproduce is irrelevant. Only a finite quantity can exist. +--- 15369837 +>>15368397 (OP) +Not when you can just put them all end to end in one set and condense all the infinities into a single infinity. +--- 15369849 +>>15369217 +>Is this right so far? +No, all circles have infinite points. + +>Take the tangent from every point on the small circle and map them onto the corresponding point of the larger circle. +>You cant, right? +You can't because there are infinite points, the process will never terminate, the only thing hindering you is the precision with which you can rotate the radial line because you can't actually rotate by an infinitesimal for infinite degrees of freedom in reality since your line will not be 0D thickness like the idealized points in the circle. +--- 15369856 +>>15369283 +>Only a finite quantity can exist. +Then what is the finite quantity in 200 factorial or 1/0? +Also wtf are you talking about with numbers having the ability to reproduce? diff --git a/sci/15368433.txt b/sci/15368433.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2bdf1920edcb231e4aa6329b0a1e18addc731182 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368433.txt @@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +----- +--- 15368433 +https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4809873/ +>A post-mortem study of 82 schizophrenia patients found rates of stomach, small intestine, and large intestine inflammation as impressive as respectively 50%, 88%, and 92% +>Protracted abnormal gut permeability is indeed associated with a wide range of immune-related diseases, and in some animal studies has been shown to precede them, suggesting causation +>Any abnormal presence of microbes triggers the release of the proteinzonulin, which widens the junctions between cells so that water can seep into the intestine and flush out bacteria via loose bowel movements +>Gluten stimulates zonulin release +>Antibodies against the brain, triggered by gluten, can cause severe neurological dysfunctions whether or not one is celiac +>Antibodies against gluten have been found much more often in schizophrenia and autism patients than in the general population or in controls +--- 15368467 +No schizophrenia, but I've had tourettes all my life, and the tics I experience have been reduced by 80-95% since I cut wheat from my diet. +--- 15368511 +So why does Asia have higher rates of schizophrenia? They eat mostly rice. Rice has no gluten. +--- 15368582 +>>15368511 +Colloquially gluten only means wheat protein, but medically gluten means any combination of prolamin and glutelin. Rice has shitloads of both, and people who suffer from Celiac's Disease will have symptoms from rice too. +--- 15368611 +>>15368433 (OP) +>people have consumed bread for over 10,000 years +>schizo faggot thinks a basic component of a common food item causes schizophrenia and autism +>>>/pol/ +--- 15368619 +>>15368511 +Compare asians who eat wheat with those who don't. +--- 15368632 +>>15368611 +People have eugenically bread wheat for 10,000 years. +--- 15368634 +>>15368619 +the wheat eating regions of japan are taller, could mean anything +--- 15368669 +>average pre-neolithic revolution height (5'10") +>average post-neolithic revolution height (5'5") +--- 15368687 +>>15368582 +Yea but... I'm looking at figures like 8% in Asia vs 0.3% globally. I mean not like I've done an exhaustive analysis but this is still very significant. + +However, is schizophrenia related to serotonin? Because iirc gluten boosts serotonin (but I can't remember if I'm confusing dopamine) so an issue with serotonin and gluten could be linked to schizophrenia. Asians are likely to be more sensitive to gluten. Rough hypothesis. +--- 15368704 +>>15368582 +ATIs are far higher in wheat than in other grains though. I don't want to be Big Rice shill here, but celiacs are already starting off with an allergy. +--- 15368720 +>>15368433 (OP) +What type of wheat was used in the study? Isn't there a big difference between white bread and a naturally leavened whole fresh ground grain loaf? +--- 15368721 +>>15368582 +Wat. Nigga my relative has bad celiac and he lives on rice now. Pretty sure he'd be dead by now if you were right +--- 15368755 +>>15368433 (OP) +bump +--- 15368759 +It wouldn't surprise me that the majority of these who ate wheat also probably drink alcohol which has a greater link to schizophrenia. +--- 15368775 +>>15368511 +Asians eat shitloads of wheat especially north east they've been farming it for centuries +--- 15368785 +>>15368721 +This is well known medical science and plant chemistry. I'm not sure what to tell you. Not every person with Celiac's has the same level of sensitivity to other combinations of gluten proteins, but they all have some. +--- 15368979 +>>15368785 +Well, sourdough lactobacillus appear to resolve the issue to some capacity. Adding in appropriate foods with diverse lactobacillus and lactoferrin should help neutralize effects. diff --git a/sci/15368447.txt b/sci/15368447.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..011199b4d3a426927eb04c55d8a356bf38b11684 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368447.txt @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +----- +--- 15368447 +How would you go about learning mathematical notation? + +eg +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_number?useskin=vector + +Like I can look at it and tell the gist of it logically, but the notation of the generating function is mostly unknown to me. +--- 15368456 +Look up sigma sum notation and binomnial coefficients. They're pretty easy diff --git a/sci/15368528.txt b/sci/15368528.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d5abfd00cd7d4e07ab502d0f381c3fe4080acc6b --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368528.txt @@ -0,0 +1,148 @@ +----- +--- 15368528 +Pfizer & Moderna Covid-19 vaccines have been pulled off the shelves by the FDA. +Is there anyone here who know why they did this? WTF!! +--- 15368537 +>>15368528 (OP) +Stfu u boring cunts. +--- 15368545 +>>15368528 (OP) +Oh no, were the chuds right again? Someone please tell us! +--- 15368585 +This can't be happening +--- 15368624 +>>15368528 (OP) +Because the "emergency" is officially, legally over. The vaccines that are "on the shelves" (in the freezers) are not FDA approved. They were only "authorized for emergency use." They are no longer legal. +--- 15368625 +>>15368585 +No refunds, dumbass. +--- 15368626 +>>15368528 (OP) +post the link. +--- 15368635 +>>15368528 (OP) +>monovalent +obviously this is too hard of the word for newsci +--- 15368770 +>>15368635 +This. The FDA is now pushing the bivalent shots. +--- 15368931 +>>15368635 +>>monovalent +>mono +>>15368770 +>bivalent +>bi +So is the new "vaccine" a bisexual "vaccine"? +--- 15369198 +Bro, you don't have to take the vaccine. It's okay. You can stop making threads about it. +--- 15369272 +You're only eligible for a bivalent jab if you had at least 3 monovalent jabs. Removing the monovalent jabs implies that a vaxx mandate for bivalent jabs effectively excludes all unvaxxed persons from society forever without any chance for them to ever join again even when they're broken financially and socially. The next step of the social credit system. +--- 15369285 +>>15368528 (OP) +take them all! you can't be too safe, right? +https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0MqctXOuVo [Embed] +--- 15369288 +>>15368528 (OP) +just 2 more weeks until all da vasxxxmaxers die! +--- 15369341 +>>15368624 +The pfizer jab was fully authorized under the retail name Comirnaty. +https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine +--- 15369353 +>>15369341 +The "Comirnaty" formulation was never available in the US. +--- 15369368 +>>15369353 +Wrong. +https://www.pfizer.com/news/announcements/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-us-fda-approval-their-covid-19-vaccine-comirnatyr +--- 15369372 +>>15369368 +That does nothing to counter my facts. If you went to CVS and asked to get an injection from the Comirnaty stock you wouldn't be able to. None was ever produced or sold. +--- 15369388 +>>15369372 +Wrong. +https://www.cvs.com/immunizations/covid-19-vaccine +>As of August 23, 2021, the FDA has issued full approval of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine for use with individuals ages 16 and over +--- 15369391 +>>15369388 +Your link only proves what I said. You can't get the approved formulation "Comirnaty," but they'll tell you that Pfizer Corp had a formulation approved in order to sell you the pre-existing EUA doses. +--- 15369398 +>>15369391 +No, it doesn't look at the date, it says that as of August 23, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine formula was fully approved and the FDA site says that it can be marketed under the name Comirnaty, not that it has to be since people already know it as the pfizer covid vaccine. +--- 15369404 +>>15369398 +Just so we're clear, the FDA has said that the formulations are legally distinct. You're not correct about that. +--- 15369412 +>>15369404 +Must be why it doesn't say anything like that in the press release I posted and why you have no press release of your own to prove your misinformed point just a bunch of bullshit that falls apart when faced with actual facts. +https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine +>The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty +It doesn't say they are different at all, it says it was known as one thing under EUA and now it can be marketed with a specific brand name because it is a fully approved product. +--- 15369413 +>>15369412 +It's mentioned in a footnote in the fact sheet for the Comirnaty formulation from the FDA. The approval you claimed to have read. If you didn't see it then you're just retarded. +--- 15369417 +>>15369413 +No it is not, or you would have linked it. +It specifically says it is the same formula over and over and now that it has been approved for sale it can be marketed with a brand name. +>Since Dec. 11, 2020, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has been available under EUA +>Comirnaty has the same formulation as the EUA vaccine and is administered as a series of two doses, three weeks apart. +--- 15369418 +>>15368528 (OP) +Whatever, we won't be able to tell what the upshot is from here. All we really know is that it's some gay masterminding. +--- 15369420 +>>15369417 +"The products are legally distinct with certain differences that do not impact safety or effectiveness." +Ctrl + f please +--- 15369426 +>>15369420 +https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine +Ctrl+F ""The products are legally distinct with certain differences that do not impact safety or effectiveness." +Phrase Not Found +--- 15369429 +>>15369426 +It's in the official FDA fact sheet PDF for the approval. I guess you just didn't read it then. +--- 15369455 +>>15369429 +Sure the thing that contradicts everything they put in the press release is just impossible to link, but its totally somewhere there. +--- 15369467 +>>15369455 +--- 15369484 +>>15369467 +Cool edit element instead of a simple link, but you kind of do it nonsensically when leave in the real contradicting previous sentence that says they are the same interchangeable formulas. +--- 15369486 +>>15369484 +Starting off with lies is very cool and legitimate of you. +--- 15369490 +>>15369486 +I didn't lie about shit, a link should be trivial to produce, there is no point in going to the trouble of making images unless you want to modify what the site says and even if you didn't, the legal distinction is that they now have a legal right to use brand name where they didn't have that right for the ones that were bottled before the full authorization was in effect, but that was years ago and all the ones produced and bottled after August 23, 2021 are fully authorized. It doesn't say anything about the formulas being distinct, it just says that there may be legal distinctions depending on the date of production and the issuing of the EUA and full authorization, nothing you say is backed up by facts or the press release and you don't even understand what the legal distinction could be and are conflating that to be different formulations when it clearly says they are the exact same formula and the formula is fully approved. +--- 15369525 +>>15368635 +they're absolute dumbfucks, it's really amazing +--- 15369701 +>>15368528 (OP) +>more than 5.55 billion people worldwide have received a dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, equal to about 72.3 percent of the world population +>13.4 billion doses administered +I'd say the mission was accomplished. 70% of the cattle hooked up to the new technohomo grid is pretty good. There will be more unvaxxed cattle who will join them sooner than later, no UBI or other benefits otherwise. +--- 15369708 +>>15369701 +Genius, offer UBI, but only if you have something that isn't legally available. +--- 15369871 +>>15368635 +please explain +--- 15369893 +>>15369871 +They are pushing the bivalent and discontinuing the monovalent because it is based on the original strain that the newer strains have evolved to bypass. +--- 15369922 +>>15368770 +>bi +>LGBT agenda is a "conspiracy theory" +get rekt /sci/ cucks +--- 15369952 +>>15369893 +>he believes in "virus mutation" +ngmi +--- 15369961 +>>15369893 +pro tip scienceboi diff --git a/sci/15368638.txt b/sci/15368638.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..33a9c67bb7d7bfba31391027de88750ad19033e9 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368638.txt @@ -0,0 +1,52 @@ +----- +--- 15368638 +You guys told me we could scale this thing to AI God and turn the world into an anime. What happened? +--- 15368656 +he's definitely an alternative kinda man +--- 15368667 +>>15368638 (OP) +I don't know if you have been paying attention but you can now get comparable performance to GPT3 from two years ago from models running on consumer GPUs. GPT3 needed a cluster of GPUs with 300GB+ vram to run. An order of magnitude increase in performance/cost from software alone and everyone is still using python. +--- 15368673 +They should work on it not giving bullshit answers stated with such confidence. It should say if it can't figure something out. +--- 15368694 +>>15368673 +The models are trained on reddit. Of course it acts like a narcissistic midwit. +--- 15368703 +We trained it wrong on purpose, as a joke +--- 15368733 +>>15368694 +Yeah, that thread is still on page 10 +>>15348949 → +>AI training data comes from Reddit & Wikipedia +too bad the homosexual vegetarian (((altman))) wasn't willing to source training data from an uncensored part of the internet, but being an effeminate cowardly sissy goes along with being circumcised and growing up in a matriarchal culture like judaism. altman was cursed from birth, he never had a chance, fated to be a stereotype. maybe if he'd been born with a high iq he could've figured his way out of the trap, but is clearly not the case, his brain is clearly sick with multiple symptoms of disease. +--- 15368795 +>>15368733 +>too bad the homosexual vegetarian (((altman))) wasn't willing to Source training dAta from an uncensored part of the internet, but beinG an Effeminate cowardly sissy goes along with being circumcised and growing up in a matriarchal culture like judaism. altman was cursed from birth, he never had a chance, fated to be a stereotype. maybe if he'd been born with a high iq he could've figured his way out of the trap, but is clearly not the case, his brain is clearly sick with multiple symptoms of disease. +the above post was written by the most literate and sensical stormfag on this website +--- 15368825 +>>15368638 (OP) +The solution is in modular small-world networks but we don't know how to do that yet. He's really saying that it can't keep going the current way because we won't have enough processing power to improve otherwise. +--- 15368878 +>>15368825 +>we won't have enough processing power to improve otherwise. + +I thought Moore's law still going just not at same speed. +--- 15368907 +>>15368638 (OP) +Damage control. They realized the plebs were getting too much use out of AI and getting a little too optimistic for the future. Now it's time to rein that optimism back in so that the elites can keep the best AI for themselves and maintain dominance. Mass-use AI needs to be just barely smart enough to replace uppity labor. +--- 15368910 +>>15368667 +Yup, I'm excited for the new H100, as well as a number of analog computing systems in development. + +And I wonder how much speedup we could get by programming NNs directly in C++ +--- 15368924 +>>15368733 +imagine projecting so hard it just becomes an irony post +--- 15369061 +>>15368638 (OP) +/sci/ btfo the scaling within five minutes of the press release, but everyone here is on the hype train. Brain dead. +>>15368907 +Look at this. No concept of how anything works. Not even a shred of intelligence. They have held back for decades already. They realized it is a non-starter like every endeavor after nuclear energy. +--- 15369140 +>>15368673 +It has no idea whether or not it's figured something out. It just says what comes to its head first. diff --git a/sci/15368688.txt b/sci/15368688.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c5701b9628fc2e34093a0542f134e61dc481a030 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368688.txt @@ -0,0 +1,24 @@ +----- +--- 15368688 +How would one detect a chinese room? +--- 15368692 +>>15368688 (OP) +Ask the people there what they think about the Vietnamese. +--- 15368716 +>>15368688 (OP) +>pic +Right before you're either about to get whacked or get a massage with release. +--- 15368724 +>>15368688 (OP) +give the room nonsense to interpret + +you'd be able to tell what it does based on its results +--- 15368773 +Ask the room to make you offer and if you can't understand you'll know then. +--- 15369152 +>>15368688 (OP) +Toss a cat into the room and see if anyone eats it +--- 15369278 +The Chinese room detects you. With its facial recognition cameras. Your social credit score will plummet. +--- 15369284 +>>15368688 (OP) diff --git a/sci/15368693.txt b/sci/15368693.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3bfade6e28798ab8a24ea727ef2dd3f78f71c9f4 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368693.txt @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +----- +--- 15368693 +No person may give away or offer to give away any live animal, except for goldfish, as a prize for or as an inducement to enter any contest, game, or other competition, or as an inducement to enter a place of amusement, or offer any animal as an incentive to enter into any business agreement whereby the offer was for the purpose of attracting trade. +--- 15369205 +>>15368693 (OP) +Okay, and? The Monty Hall problem is interesting because of its non-obvious solution that filters brainlets. Not that it's a viable game show or wasn't staged or something. +--- 15369347 +Inb4 some brainlet claims the simulations show 50/50. +--- 15369672 +>>15368693 (OP) +You can't win the goat, it's just a funny way to say you lost. +--- 15369746 +do the opposite of what OP says: give away and offer a live animal, no goldfish, as a prize for/as inducement to contest/game/competitive entry, and do so as an inducement to enter a place of amusement. offer or give away and animal as an incentive to enter a business agreement,(whereby) the other for which is the purpose of attracting trade. diff --git a/sci/15368750.txt b/sci/15368750.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2cb45ec6e8b88d5e11d85ae6d2b151f7c5baf616 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368750.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 15368750 +Is this even possible? Could you do this with a giant sphere of C4 or RDX compressing a sphere of metal? Would this destroy the planet? +--- 15368769 +lmao its freshman level math to figure that out. go study until you're smart enough to participate in /sci/ with dragging down the board's iq level diff --git a/sci/15368796.txt b/sci/15368796.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4eba7ff02b8c58b73206d7a2106443912c05f240 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368796.txt @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +----- +--- 15368796 +Redpill me on these rare spring micro nosebleeds. Why do they happen, and why only in spring. + +Also, is their cause the same as other seasonal phenomena, such as asthenia, joint pain, etc? +--- 15368920 +you jack off to kiddie porn +--- 15369858 +>>15368920 +It is not the perv nosebleed we see in anime. +That only happens in the japanese race. +--- 15369867 +>>15368796 (OP) +dunno about the second part, but does it sting before it occurs for you, like being able to tell it's occurring? or does it just happen and you notice only when there's unsuspected liquid falling out of your nose? +--- 15369987 +>>15368796 (OP) +new pollen season, your nose gets inflamed and you burst a blood vessel diff --git a/sci/15368860.txt b/sci/15368860.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7a5d4ece90d846dec34959e53fb3c731c1932cca --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368860.txt @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@ +----- +--- 15368860 +in a forensic psychiatric setting, sex offenders with paraphilias may be given a depot injection of a gonadotropin releasing hormone agonist to suppress testosterone and libido +--- 15368883 +>>15368860 (OP) +i do now. psychiatric patients and criminals already have significantly reduced rights on their own. obviously combining the two would make them have even less. +--- 15368929 +>>15368860 (OP) +What's next? Can someone incarcerated for assault get let out early if they consent to having their spine severed at the C4 vertebrae? +--- 15368972 +>>15368883 +criminals deserve no rights, making an example of them is all they're good for. +--- 15368991 +>>15368929 +>paying tax dollars to assist crippled sex offenders with disability benefits +lol diff --git a/sci/15368874.txt b/sci/15368874.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ddeb7255aa33118208acdcfc9734c1057948d402 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15368874.txt @@ -0,0 +1,25 @@ +----- +--- 15368874 +Why does it look like a mushroom? I want only the deepest scientific answers. +--- 15368901 +Fungi talking to us +I suggest watching the works of Joe Rogan to find out more +--- 15368908 +>>15368874 (OP) +Basically all has to do with Density. Heat expands the air, making it less dense, and is forced up by cooler air inflow at the sides and base of the mushroom cloud. +--- 15368923 +>>15368874 (OP) +The mushroom shape of an atomic bomb explosion is due to the formation of a fireball generated by the intense heat of the explosion. The fireball rises rapidly into the atmosphere, carrying with it a large amount of vaporized debris and gases. As the fireball rises, it creates a low-pressure zone that draws in air and debris from the ground, forming a stem-like column beneath the fireball. The debris and gases then cool and condense, forming the characteristic mushroom cap shape. This phenomenon is a result of the complex interplay between the physics of the explosion and the surrounding environment. +--- 15368941 +>>15368908 +>>15368923 +How would it be in Mars? I suppose that it would reach a higher height before cooling +--- 15368943 +does it look like a mushroom? +maybe a basidiomycite like amanita virosa, but with an ascomycite cap similar to gyromitra esculenta. doesn't look like any particular mushroom i know of +--- 15369182 +>>15368874 (OP) +Heat and pressure causes air to be pushed outwards then sucked back in in a circular, donut-like motion. It looks like a mushroom when you take a picture but if you see a video you can see the circular motion of the vapor. +This happens in explosions of all sizes. It's just more noticeable in nuclear bombs. +--- 15369874 +Convection. diff --git a/sci/15369004.txt b/sci/15369004.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..05154cd30730315d15abf08aa088e701b5a531a1 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369004.txt @@ -0,0 +1,44 @@ +----- +--- 15369004 +I took an accelerated 5 week Calculus I course earlier this year. I never studied outside of homework and I got out with a B. Never seen it as rocket science. +--- 15369024 +I don't think they do. Most people take calculus in high school, or at least that was my experience at a public high school in New Jersey. At some of the nicer public schools they also offer linear algebra and differential equations +--- 15369040 +>>15369024 +https://www.thinkimpact.com/high-school-statistics/ +--- 15369135 +>>15369024 +It wasn't even offered at my australian school. +Neither was algebra. +This was 20 years ago in rural aus. i've tried a few times since then but i can't grasp/remember it. +--- 15369156 +>>15369135 +oldfag filtered by cal 1 lol +--- 15369159 +>>15369135 +I'm sorry man, I wish you were given better opportunities as a kid. I don't think it's ever too late though +--- 15369163 +>>15369004 (OP) +>only a B +Lol retard +--- 15369166 +>>15369159 +>better opportunities +>calculus +--- 15369186 +>>15369159 +I should probably go and have another attempt at it, gamedev is something i've wanted as a hobby but the math side keeps fucking me over. +Other than that i don't need it for my job or life so its no big deal. +--- 15369273 +>>15369135 +It wasn't offered in my australian school either, graduated 4 years ago. Got thrown into software engineering struggled every sem while the private school kids slept through class. +--- 15369642 +>>15369273 +>It wasn't offered in my australian school either, graduated 4 years ago +fuck sakes. +no wonder aus is fucked. +--- 15369937 +>>15369163 +You think you're so better? Let me guess, you had an A+ in Calc 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc and now you're a renowned Mathematician making new discoveries? Is that why you're on 4chan? +--- 15369942 +I thought it was really easy too. do you understand it? I guess I understand it. it's an infinitesimal slope. I don't know if I completely understand it, I guess. I guess I understand it. The class was pretty easy. diff --git a/sci/15369033.txt b/sci/15369033.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..00e0118ad79427889810dd324db28a74766dfbcd --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369033.txt @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@ +----- +--- 15369033 +i can't stand this fag. every time he opens his mouth you hear the same nonsensical vague mumblings. every fucking time. show me a clip where he actually engages with the topic instead of going off about "love" or "existence" or "how chatgpt can unlock consciousness and bring us closer to the philosophical reality of knowledge and wisdom". i doubt he even knows what consciousness means. I doubt he has any basic comprehension of newton's laws of motion. joe rogan the ape is more scientifically literate than this fraud. how he can bring on high level scientists and philosophers on his show is mindboggling. +--- 15369054 +Lex is extremely intelligent, likely 99.999th percentile. The podcast he puts on is master class acting. I study his language, his composure, the speed at which he speaks, his facial expressions. All of it. He becomes the act. +The reason he puts on this persona is twofold. One, YouTube won't promote someone who can think critically, so it's in his best interest to appeal to Nepotism. Second, why would Tom Hanks be Tom Hanks when he could be Forrest Gump? +--- 15369062 +>>15369033 (OP) +>i can't stand this fag +thats why you spam him on the internet and give him free publicity +--- 15369066 +u jealous bro +--- 15369082 +>>15369033 (OP) +He is a jew propped up by jew owned big tech. Blocking his videos is the best you can do, along with the other tribal grifters (weinstein, sam harris, yuval noah hararri, yudkowsky, etc, etc, etc) +--- 15369092 +>>15369054 +additionally it gives him a huge advantage to be so humble and quiet and deferential when talking to guests in that it endears him to them. Its a big part of what makes him successful +--- 15369099 +>>15369082 +how is Sam Harris a grifter, chudcel? +--- 15369119 +>>15369099 + +>how is Sam Harris a grifter +the fact you have to ask that outs you as a fraud +hes a literal english major with no knowledge in philosophy, science, epistemology, logic, theology. His entire work is jut him mindlessly shitting on the history of all of those fields. + +After what i think is hundreds of hours of reading Sam harris, i still dont know what he believes because his entire identitiy is revolved around shiting on every philosophical position that is not some sort of hardcore reductionism, rather then making an argument or what is true. +--- 15369120 +>>15369033 (OP) +please prove to me that you are more intelligent than him by explaining what consciousness means +--- 15369137 +>>15369033 (OP) +Very intellectual take bub. +--- 15369262 +what combination of brain damage and poor life experience is responsible for ecelebrity hate posting. i must have seen variations of this thread on /sci/ fifty times by now. here's a hint for you, you fucking nigger: if you don't like it, dont watch it. and definitely dont write up a fucking paragraph about it and post in a new thread on a slow board, you absolute total faggot +--- 15369274 +>I love you all +Does he actually love us all? +--- 15369375 +>>15369033 (OP) +>i can't stand this fag +Then don't watch/listen to it. +--- 15369449 +>>15369033 (OP) +I agree. Lex is good +--- 15369505 +>>15369082 +Alexei Fedotov is not jew but he pretends to be one. Jews did the opposite (crypto) when its better that way. +--- 15369559 +>>15369033 (OP) +You are correct. +--- 15369791 +>>15369033 (OP) +What if like...we all just...loved each other...you know... diff --git a/sci/15369108.txt b/sci/15369108.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3f478c75b9f50081db9bd233b8ab56909ac0d58c --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369108.txt @@ -0,0 +1,25 @@ +----- +--- 15369108 +There is no colour "white". Therefore scientifically, white identity is false - a construct. This is why "White Pride" and even white as an identity is inherently and inescapably racist. + +Racism disproven by basic color science. +--- 15369113 +White is a colour. You are wrong! +--- 15369187 +>>15369108 (OP) +Literally everything you said here was wrong. Even the way you spell color you filthy europoor +--- 15369215 +>>15369108 (OP) +White isn't the lack of color, it is every color. Learn how light works you stupid europoor. Is this unironically what they teach in yurop schools? +--- 15369251 +>>15369108 (OP) + +based + +expose the /pol/ retards +--- 15369277 +>>15369108 (OP) +if you mix all the colors of light together you get white. +if you mix all the objects that reflect the color of light together you get brown. + +https://www.bitchute.com/video/akFfjkbVh5J6/ diff --git a/sci/15369174.txt b/sci/15369174.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a90be9c24379751ed276fa9a99e05309a47c1b4d --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369174.txt @@ -0,0 +1,25 @@ +----- +--- 15369174 +Why do so many physicists think they are qualified to talk about topics that are completely unrelated to physics? +--- 15369178 +>>15369174 (OP) +Why do you think you're qualified to talk about physicists? +--- 15369208 +>>15369178 +Why do you think you're qualified to talk about talking about physicists? +--- 15369228 +>>15369208 +Because I'm a physicist +--- 15369235 +>>15369228 +It says Anonymous. +--- 15369239 +>>15369228 +derive F = ma +--- 15369349 +Because people keep asking them +--- 15369359 +>>15369349 +He just posts shower thoughts on twitter and people humiliate him. Did twitter ask him? +--- 15369649 +One you are trained in physics, it's is very easy to be trained in literally anything else. Furthermore, the theory of dynamical systems in which all physicists are well versed is literally a theory of everything. diff --git a/sci/15369225.txt b/sci/15369225.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5af9808f5d827c681503d37810f23d768b4bea19 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369225.txt @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +----- +--- 15369225 +How feasible would be interstellar travel by using teleportation and portals? +--- 15369238 +>>15369225 (OP) +I've done it. It helps a lot if you only send massless virtual objects through the portal, such as virtual photons produced in your mind that haven't been detected by any material objects. +--- 15369299 +>>15369225 (OP) +faster than light travel implies time travel, so you'd be using those portals to time travel, change the past and destroy the universe causing a paradox +--- 15369307 +>>15369225 (OP) +Depends on your definition of "you" +--- 15369327 +>>15369307 +1. used to refer to the person or people that the speaker is addressing. + "are you listening?" +2. used to refer to any person in general. + "after a while, you get used to it" +source: google +--- 15369351 +>>15369327 +>posts picture *&* the words +Fucking autist or dumb, I know not... +--- 15369416 +>>15369225 (OP) +>muh soience fiction tv show fantasy +imagine that you're so low iq and intellectually lazy that you can't even think up your own imaginative scenarios and instead you need to steal them from lame tv shows +--- 15369934 +>>15369225 (OP) +Goold? +--- 15369947 +>>15369299 +I sort of get this but not really. I get that you can send information to the past if the sender and the receiver travel at some relative velocity but what if you have a system that only works between two points that are static relative to each other? diff --git a/sci/15369264.txt b/sci/15369264.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..85d9efabd76e860f27ee673c8aa4daf8305e355a --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369264.txt @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +----- +--- 15369264 +Why are black male/white female and white male/asian female the most common interracial couples? Is it sexual selection? +--- 15369310 +>>15369264 (OP) +white women are low IQ with small brains and want masculine men who are dumber than them so they don't feel inferior + +many white men are autistic and want a male brained high IQ woman they can talk about programming and vidya with, large brained asian women like white men who are more masculine than asian males + +also all nonwhites realize whites are superior and desperately want to be white/in white european society +--- 15369343 +The year is 2023 and there is still no interracial cuckold porn with a black woman, a white cuck and an asian bull. It seems we are still far away from reaching racial equality. +--- 15369415 +>>15369264 (OP) +>Why do fat white women chose a negro male over no male and nerdy white men chose Asian females over no females in their life? +it is a mystery that might be explained by science some day. +--- 15369601 +>>15369264 (OP) +its not. it's spic male/white female, white male/spic female for the most common. +--- 15369615 +My wife (of 8 years and who is extremely faithful, fuck you) says it's easier to find black men attractive because they're so far removed from white men that they register as a different type of person. Whereas "brown people" register as browner versions of white people, and therefore inferior because she associates brown with working outside in the sun. +--- 15369620 +>>15369264 (OP) +It's for the same reason white women are fucking their dogs so much now: they all work for Helene and she tells them to hate white men. +--- 15369622 +>>15369620 +Who is Helene? +--- 15369623 +Why does every right wing incel have such an obvious cuckold fetish? +--- 15369630 +>>15369622 +My sister. +--- 15369631 +>>15369630 +Sometimes I forget how schizophrenic you actually are. +--- 15369632 +>>15369622 +a.k.a Hector, a.k.a Hecate, a.k.a the WoS, a.k.a Gina Haspel, a.k.a Rodelene Williams, etc. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol9PbvV0_dI [Embed] +--- 15369804 +>>15369264 (OP) +Black males can't compete economically or culturally so the only option left is genetic integration. +--- 15369840 +>>15369804 +>can't compete +>literally the only group of men (outside maybe arabs) that haven't had their sperm count and birth rates fall into the absolute gutter + +The fact the west is outright desperate to push abortion, feminism and LGBT shit into Blacks and into Africa in general, knowing their population and development is still on the uptick saids everything about the level of competitiveness they actually have. + +But keep saying they can't compete anon. +--- 15369895 +>>15369264 (OP) +Dunno about BmWf, maybe because they both see each other as exotic - and WmBf is less common cause white men have smaller penises to fit into larger black vaginas. For WmAf, white men see asian women as exotic and asian men have small penises. +--- 15369916 +>>15369264 (OP) +>Is it sexual selection? + +By definition. + +I wonder how much of it is caused by media bias and how much of it is natural. + +It certainly seems like women are more suggestible to groupthink, and the media caters to that. + +>>15369620 +How are we going to approach animal fucking ethically? It's been going on for all of human history. It's not something anybody likes acknowledging. Can dolphins consent? +--- 15369926 +>>15369264 (OP) +The most common interracial couple is actually white male / latino female tho +--- 15369960 +>>15369631 +lol +--- 15369962 +>>15369895 +Black women actually have tighter vaginas than white women +--- 15369969 +>>15369962 +Because they have much smaller birth canals. diff --git a/sci/15369360.txt b/sci/15369360.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fd54f572f07ed31d8e68a21a23da72aaf84a1e6b --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369360.txt @@ -0,0 +1,52 @@ +----- +--- 15369360 +Why did the atomic age end? + +Shouldnt we have unlimited energy by now? Elemental transmutation bordering on post scarcity? Space travel? + +What killed nuclear technology in the cradle? +--- 15369370 +>>15369360 (OP) +>Why did the atomic age end? +Vietnam, myaaan. +--- 15369371 +>>15369360 (OP) +>What killed nuclear technology in the cradle? +Big Oil +--- 15369382 +>>15369371 +More like Big California. Hippie liberalism and NIMBYs stopped any new plants from being built. +--- 15369395 +>>15369371 +But how? Why didnt they just buy in? Our economy could be the stars themselves.. +--- 15369427 +>>15369382 +and who do you think funded that movement? +--- 15369432 +>>15369360 (OP) +Yeah, unfortunately nukes were stopped before they could build actual earth-enders to finally put an end to nightmareland. +--- 15369437 +>>15369427 +Communists mainly. +--- 15369440 +>>15369360 (OP) +energy and money are the two sides of the same coin. sound energy means sound money. thorium MSRs were killed just as USD became the world reserve currency under the petrodollar system. the petrodollar cant exist within the paradigm of general energy independence. you must not limit the discussion to electricity generation to understand the implications. and this is why china building 180 new nuclear plants and developing thorium MSRs is such a big deal in a commodities driven world. +--- 15369453 +>>15369440 +What commodity effect is it having? + +Could the petrodollar completely collapse? + +Ur post is honestly making me see things in a new way, i considered the petrol companies but not thw fact that the united states is banking the validity of the petro dollar as a core financial capstone +--- 15369478 +>>15369360 (OP) +The U.S. And Russia still have thousands of nuclear weapons and new nuclear power plants are being built every year +--- 15369483 +>>15369453 +De-dollarization is happening rapidly due to loss of faith in US hegemony. +--- 15369560 +>>15369360 (OP) +Because they teach everyone bullshit on purpose. +--- 15369927 +>>15369360 (OP) +Coal Industry and useful lefty faggots funded by the Coal Industry. diff --git a/sci/15369364.txt b/sci/15369364.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1f1148aaf1f8209755af6a44299dca740b21ce5b --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369364.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 15369364 +Numbers have tangible existence. I can touch one. I can see two. To claim that they only map onto something else is absurd. The difference between asking 'one what?' and 'how many?' is insignificant insofar as the material existence of the object of the sentence is concerned. 'One' could be the object, and 'cup' could be the number. +--- 15369369 +>>15369364 (OP) +How the fuck do you touch a number? +--- 15369376 +>>15369369 +The same way you touch anything else.. diff --git a/sci/15369379.txt b/sci/15369379.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..02732dda12d0de9b17d0ccb4a85236a0a0886c6f --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369379.txt @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@ +----- +--- 15369379 +https://youtu.be/_dNdp_hcKFs [Embed] +(skip to 4:26) + +https://youtu.be/EPe86sveyRY [Embed] +(skip to 7:40) + +Amerimutts are shot out of the system with nothing but a hatred for math and a belief that it is useless +--- 15369430 +>>15369379 (OP) +This happens everywhere including asia. +--- 15369464 +>>15369379 (OP) +AI might be able to resolve this. Math problems at school are boring, the context around the problems is boring, questions like how big does a farm need to be to fit ten cows that need some amount of space, it's boring. AI might be able to rewrite the questions on demand using topics interesting to children of whatever age and have the questions still equal the same answer so the teacher doesn't have to do much. Even better would be if the context of the math problems were suited to the interest of each child, so they all had different problems with things they found interesting like video games or movies or whatever, but all the answers were still the same numbers to make it easy for the teacher +--- 15369474 +>>15369379 (OP) +Teaching toddlers about differential forms solves this problem +--- 15369593 +>>15369464 +>here I will give you the answer to every problem with triangles you will ever encounter +>I dont want to learn it because it has no context :( +Stop hamfisting only tangentially related topics into math for the sake of it. +--- 15369635 +>>15369464 +good point + +school in general (mainly for earlier years) would be more effective if each subject wasn’t so isolated, but students learnt about the connections and overlaps between them and learned to solve problems involving more than one industry +--- 15369681 +>>15369593 +How is find the area of some imaginary farm more related to math than find the area of some house in fortnite or something? All I'm saying is with AI the boring examples could potentially be turned into ones that kids find interesting +--- 15369694 +>>15369681 +Fuck the barn, and fuck fortnite. +Use abstract geometric objects instead. +--- 15369733 +>>15369379 (OP) +Honestly, I wonder if it's time to stop trying to force everyone to learn anything above simple arithmetic. To really get any value out of maths, I think you need to have both a reasonably sharp mind and a personal interest in it (and/or in topics that it unlocks, like engineering). A substantial number of people are a bit dim and in any case couldn't care less about it. It's not obvious what value is being served by forcing them to try anyway. They'll forget most of it and just come away with a resentment for the subject. + +At some point early in high school, hold maths placement sessions. Give a taster of what algebra/trig/etc will be like and what it can do. Explain that it's necessary to know this stuff to design a bridge, or develop a video game, or investigate whether statistics are trying to trick you, or study for any degree that starts with "BSc". +Kids who are interested can opt in to learn it. The rest can spend most of that time on other subjects, with just a few classes in which they git gud at mental arithmetic, practice estimating to within orders of magnitude, and get comfortable with percentages and ratios. +Those who change their mind are supported through a transition from one track to the other. +--- 15369850 +>>15369694 +That's why people hate math. Math is only useful because it can calculate things on the real world which is why so many math problems at school use real world examples. You're basically saying don't teach any applied math only abstract math, that would result in even more people hating it +--- 15369878 +read the deliberate dumbing down of america +--- 15369900 +>>15369733 +I don't think people are that dim that all hope is lost. The problem is that many western cultures spiraled their math and science curriculums into the abyss. People often complain that math is hard and then say it's useless anyway, so they give up even trying to understand simple math. They see a problem or new topic, don't understand it at first (most likely cause they barely attention to begin with) and then just zone out. It doesn't matter how interesting you make it when the majority gave up to the point where anything you say will just go into one ear and out of the other. +So after over one generation of that sentiment with parents sometimes even telling kids it's fine to be bad at science stuff, we've reached the point where teachers desperately try to teach fractions. +The really sad thing is that everyone else is just gonna be bored out of their mind. We put them in courses that take 10+ years to teach them stuff that they could possibly learn in half the time. And by the end they don't even know how to sit down and study for uni cause they didn't need to for their entire school life. +--- 15369924 +>>15369733 +>t. +NOT MY KID my kid isn't even born yet but you better believe he's got an adderral prescription with his name on it diff --git a/sci/15369462.txt b/sci/15369462.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d5aa7945a8dddfbd77f5aa88ec7afceb0b6df7a3 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369462.txt @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +----- +--- 15369462 +Cosmic microwave background radiation proven fake +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O13ApQvUfb8 [Embed] +--- 15369468 +>eu garbage +into the trash it goes +--- 15369472 +>>15369462 (OP) +She votes. +He peacefully protests. +I kneel. +--- 15369510 +Robitaille is a fraud and has no idea what he's talking about. Note that Planck had two instruments which used different detection methods, Robitaille only talks about one and yet both LFI and HFI get consistent results. + + +No matter how many times this shit is spammed it has still already proven wrong with empirical evidence. The Sunyaev–Zel'dovich Effect which shows where galaxy clusters have boosted the energy of CMBR photons to higher energies via the inverse Compton effect. Now this could be explained if it was just increased intensity from clusters adding to the local background BUT it's not just that. In certain frequencies it reduces the background radiation because photons have been promoted to higher energies. These galaxy clusters leave shadows on the CMB as we observe it, like this beautiful example from Planck. This is not explainable in a local model and it is commonly observed where we detect these signals and find an cluster in optical or x-ray. Furthermore the SZ effect is not only observed in known galaxy clusters but has actually been used to find hundreds of new confirmed ones. This would absolutely not be possible if Robitaille was correct, yet it is, finding hundreds is not an accident. More recently gravitational lensing of the CMB has been measured, this is further disproof of Robitaille's strange claims. + +Robitaille isn't a scientist. He declares all this shit without ever doing an experiment or reducing observational data himself. He's a dogmatic hack, who isn't interested in what reality has to say. +--- 15369527 +>>15369462 (OP) +>religion religion religion +When is this fag going to get to the point? +--- 15369554 +>>15369510 +>schizophasia +--- 15369565 +>>15369554 +I'm sorry you're incapable of understanding anything not presented on a YouTube video. The effect is quite real however. +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunyaev%E2%80%93Zeldovich_effect +--- 15369583 +>>15369565 +>wikipedia +even the found says its total trash +--- 15369606 +>>15369583 +So by this logic we can just reject OPs video because it comes from the intellectual-sewer that is YouTube. +--- 15369612 +>>15369606 +You deserve to be cut in half with a chainsaw, starting in your groin and going up to your stupid head. +--- 15369618 +>>15369462 (OP) +>electric universe +>still based on the globohomo space model +dropped +--- 15369625 +>>15369618 +Why do people keep posting this? P.M. Robitaille doesn't believe in the Electric Universe. +--- 15369644 +There is an entire pit of pseudoscience freaks who can't into math, but want to pretend to be scientists for some reason. So they decide to declare that all the scientists are conspired and its math which is wrong , not their retarded hypothesis + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZHGXx1_R8s [Embed] +--- 15369660 +>>15369625 +They are the only people who take him seriously. And he has attended their "conferences". +--- 15369661 +>>15369462 (OP) +Because Epstein's arrest was a psyop, like with Jimmy Saville. +--- 15369665 +>>15369462 (OP) +--- 15369749 +>>15369661 +yeah, they smuggled him out and faked his death, whole thing stinks +I wasn't aware of saville what do you mean? +--- 15369753 +>>15369462 (OP) +Hard to believe epstein was a dirtbike chad +--- 15369762 +>>15369510 +I don't know why someone who actually knows something about science is bothering to defend cosmology on this Mongolian grasshopper forum, but I have a suspicion that when I get around to investigating this I'm going to discover that your argument comes down to spurious correlations and a general abuse of statistical methods. +--- 15369812 +>>15369762 +Maybe try forming an argument next time. I suspect you are not going to disprove an effect detected in hundreds of publications by dozens of instruments on fucking 4chan. +>spurious correlations and a general abuse of statistical methods +You can see the huge SNR of that Abell cluster from Planck yourself. Who are you going to believe, Robitaille or your own lying eyes? +--- 15369830 +>>15369812 +Anon, I can't believe I have to tell you this but you're being trolled. diff --git a/sci/15369487.txt b/sci/15369487.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..aded0a47e7176d9e31e4c10dbe3ead0f4acde5df --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369487.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 15369487 +Even after removing “Gender Dysphoria” from the DSM, 82% of trannies still meet the remaining criteria for personality disorder. +>The frequency of personality disorders in patients with gender identity disorder +https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301205/ +--- 15369522 +>we're experiencing some turbulence +--- 15369549 +82% is 2x 41% diff --git a/sci/15369497.txt b/sci/15369497.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..24c75d3443223263c2347ee7745b7577850550f4 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369497.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 15369497 +Bend fire land and water with his hands LOL LMAO even +--- 15369513 +why are you such a faggot +--- 15369518 +>>15366401 → diff --git a/sci/15369501.txt b/sci/15369501.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0161ebaf76f48638d1730ad80e6c2674f26fcf79 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369501.txt @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@ +----- +--- 15369501 +Global warming shills busted in yet another fraud + +>Significant doubts have been cast on the accuracy of global surface temperature results following the discovery that electronic thermometers in Australia have read up to 0.7°C higher than traditional mercury glass units. + +Electronic thermometers read up to 0.7 degrees higher than glass ones. +Sometime in the mid-1990s the Australian Bureau of Meteorology replaced their glass thermometers with electronic sensors. They claimed they were carefully verified to match the slow way the old glass thermometers worked — after all, we wouldn’t want to use gizmos that recorded new all-time *Hottest Ever Records* that were actually just one-second gusts of hot air, would we? Our newspapers would be full of meaningless headlines about how Climate Change made us hotter than ever in history, when really it was just a mistaken effect of a new type of thermometer. Imagine that disaster of public policy… + +Of course this question is so easily solved. The BoM just needed to keep the two thermometers side by side in the same boxes and record all that data. Then they could release it, showing how well the electronic gadgets mimicked the glass thermometers, and Australians everywhere would feel confident that BoM was the sterling agency they thought it was. Instead Skeptics have been asking for comparison data for nine years and the BoM has refused, hedged, asked exorbitant fees, destroyed data and when the FOI requests came — fought them tooth and nail to stop Australians from seeing what their thermometers recorded. + +https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/04/14/bureau-releases-limited-parallel-data-from-brisbane-airport/ +--- 15369531 +>>15369501 (OP) +Wait, isn't that all of the alleged global warming gone with one measurement correction? +--- 15369546 +>>15369501 (OP) +Yeah global warming is a hoax. Since it is the biggest science issue that basically means science is a hoax. +--- 15369547 +>>15369501 (OP) +it's all about centuries old war for siberian resources. global warming is real, but it's the result of natural climate cycles. "green" agenda is aimed at weakening oil exporting countries, particularly russia. warming will release huge resources in siberia and it will open up the route along the north russian border. they'll kill cows just to slow down the problem until they fix the geopolitical situation. + +some are desperate: +https://www.eenews.net/articles/george-soros-wants-to-block-arctic-sunlight-will-he-fund-it/ +--- 15369595 +>Global warming shills busted in yet another fraud +Their entire lives are devoted to fraud +--- 15369754 +Anyone here got that pdf about the climategate emails, had a ship on the front? +I forgot to save it before. +--- 15369822 +You understand that England is not the entire world right? You understand how averages work? Global temperature average is going to be very different than just one airport in the uk +--- 15369826 +>>15369531 +australia =/= global +retard diff --git a/sci/15369515.txt b/sci/15369515.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..28cf94097e0c9e2fa17835a5c0e5747f540c2725 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369515.txt @@ -0,0 +1,24 @@ +----- +--- 15369515 +Science has invented another new way to poison your food +--- 15369534 +>>15369515 (OP) +wow that's really cool! it improves shelf-life and is safe to eat. +--- 15369542 +>>15369534 +But its not organic yet its added up to food labeled as organic. Its fraud, even if it was safe to eat +--- 15369566 +Damn I thought I was browsing /sci/ Science and Math but looks like this is my schizophrenic ex-coworkers Facebook feed +--- 15369590 +>>15369566 +>i hate /sci/ +why are you here? +--- 15369732 +>>15369590 +You didn't even tell us what the chemical is or how it's produced so we can verify your claim that it's not organic. Organic labelling is pretty much a joke anyway and organic fertilizers are unproven safer than inorganic fertilizers. I read a while ago how someone who switched to organic farming discovered the organic rock dust fertilizer he was using was radioactive. + +t.NTA +--- 15369798 +>>15369566 +I honestly can't tell the difference between /sci/ and /pol/ +Definitely shares a lot of the same schizo posters diff --git a/sci/15369530.txt b/sci/15369530.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3f9ca28afa5e7e364e2689d308d6ea38df46b245 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369530.txt @@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +----- +--- 15369530 +>Another victim of the Equalitarians in the United States was Jason Richwine, who had received a PhD from Harvard in 2009 with a dissertation IQ and Immigration Policy, in which he argued that Hispanics and Blacks have lower average IQs than Whites, that this has a genetic basis and, as a result, they have difficulty assimilating and are a drain on the economy and therefore their immigration should be reduced. After leaving Harvard, Richwine worked briefly at the American Enterprise Institute and then joined the Heritage Foundation and published articles repeating these arguments. In 2013, he published a study of the fiscal effects of an immigration amnesty in the United States, arguing that the costs would amount to $6.3 trillion, and recommended that the United States should not let in immigrants with low IQs. This proposal was widely denounced in the media. A week later the Heritage Foundation fired him. +>Charles Murray wrote on this: “His resignation is emblematic of a corruption that has spread throughout American intellectual discourse. I have a personal interest in this story because Jason Richwine was awarded a fellowship from my employer, the American Enterprise Institute, in 2008, and I reviewed the draft of his dissertation. A re-reading of the dissertation last weekend confirmed my recollection that Richwine had meticulously assembled and analyzed the test-score data, which showed exactly what he said they showed: Mean IQ-score differences between Latinos and non-Latino Whites, found consistently across many datasets and across time after taking factors such as language proficiency and cultural bias into account.” +https://www.mdpi.com/2624-8611/1/1/9 +--- 15369536 +>>15369530 (OP) +>A week later the Heritage Foundation fired him. +>Charles Murray wrote on this: “His resignation is +So which was it? +--- 15369537 +I dont believe you can objectively calculate the economic contributions of working people because you know how much money they receive but you cant quantify the value of the work they do. +A slave pays no taxes but that doesnt mean his economic effects can be limited to "pays no tax". +In contrast a permanently unemployed person on gibs is clearly a drain on the economy, only taking and not giving back. That cant be said for the working poor. +--- 15369597 +https://files.catbox.moe/vr2uwn.mp4 +--- 15369621 +The last thing I want to hear about is some retard trying to argue the intellectual superiority of American whites. Especially considering those same American whites gave China all their industrial jobs. Put themselves $31 trillion dollars in debt fighting a bunch of sand people and gibs to third world countries. Promoted feminism which basically hollowed out marriage/family culture to the point where they're own men no longer want to deal with American women. Have now for a second time within 15 years bailed out banks for not properly handling money. + +Last thing they should be worrying about is other groups IQ. +--- 15369626 +>>15369530 (OP) +which one is it, fagot? Do immigrants take your job or do they take your welfare? +Why aren't high IQ whites harvesting crops for high wages when there are labor shortages? +--- 15369627 +>>15369626 +>Why aren't high IQ whites harvesting crops for high wages when there are labor shortages? +Where are the high wages and labor shortages? 100,000 people per day are crossing the border to do menial work. Maybe if that stopped and it was just Americans you might have a point. +--- 15369643 +>>15369627 +https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2022/december/u-s-fruit-and-vegetable-industries-try-to-cope-with-rising-labor-costs/ +https://agamerica.com/blog/the-impact-of-the-farm-labor-shortage/ +https://agamerica.com/blog/labor-shortage-impact-on-fruit-and-nut-farms/ +https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farms-immigration/ +etc +I'm not your personal google +--- 15369645 +>>15369621 +You wrote something very retarded, sounds like you’re part of the demographics which suffer cognitively. +--- 15369651 +>>15369627 +>Where are the high wages and labor shortages? 100,000 people per day are crossing the border to do menial work. +So that must be freeing huge amounts of high IQ white labor to go discover the TOE and make award winning facebook games? Such productivity wins. Imagine if Bill Gates had to harvest his own poo, we would have never gone to the moon. +--- 15369653 +>>15369645 +Tell me more about Hart-Celler, that bill introduced by a jew but SIGNED by hundreds of goyim senators +--- 15369656 +>>15369653 +I think the basis for your menial existence is to seethe uncontrollably until your death. I hope you realize we’ve already developed genocidal aerosols which specifically target certain demographics that the US government finds to be long term negatives (blacks and latinos). Maybe then you can be go back to accepting your place as someone who doesn’t really matter. +--- 15369782 +>>15369621 +>we shot ourselves in the foot +>so we have to shoot ouselves in the other foot ! +--- 15369841 +>>15369626 +It's both, cuck. The immigrants that do not work are a drain on the welfare. The immigrants that do work drive down the wages. + +Seriously, how is it even possible to have such a low IQ that you keep repeating 20-year-old talking points? This is why preddit echo chambers are such an awful thing. You retards simply never encounter opposing views, so all you have to work with are the strawmen you yourselves build and circle jerk to. +--- 15369866 +>>15369841 +Don't forget the crime, drugs, gang warfare, increased demand on the prison system and vandalism. diff --git a/sci/15369535.txt b/sci/15369535.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..35de957344fef6c86f1d72a14425a2dcdc096ba9 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369535.txt @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +----- +--- 15369535 +Top geniuses of Science and Academia (le intellectuelle, smart, better than you) has discovered that even though you can't tie race to rates of violence, white men commit all violence. + +This incredible violence paradox is sending waves through Science, and Science worshipers the world over are posting cum tributes to the psychology professor (top genius, scholar, *closed fist in air*) who discovered it. + +>A psychology professor at the University of Texas at Austin (UT Austin) distributed a quiz to students that claimed “wealthy white men” are more likely to be violent, irresponsible and show a “lack of remorse,” according to the Washington Free Beacon. + +>“Neither race nor gender is determinative in Antisocial Personality Disorder,” the question read. “However, if we must go there, which sociodemographic group is most likely to repeatedly violate the rights of others in a pattern of behavior that includes violence, deceit, irresponsibility, and a lack of remorse?” + +https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/17/university-quiz-wealthy-white-men-violent/ + +ITT post "Thanks, Science!" +--- 15369540 +>>15369535 (OP) +Vladimir Putin is rich, white and has killed about a million people in all his wars starting in Chechnya +--- 15369543 +That's only because "Young Black Men" wasn't an answer for the multiple choice question. +--- 15369550 +>>15369535 (OP) +This means white people are the most peaceful, responsible and empathetic people on the planet. + +Thid is why; + +She votes. +He peacefully protests. +I kneel. + +This is democracy. This is what you voted for, the freedom to commit collective suicide. I respect her agency and his rights to death. +--- 15369551 +>>15369540 +>>>/pol/ +--- 15369555 +You may only post ITT if you worship and have total faith in Science +--- 15369556 +>>15369550 +A spade is a type of shovel used to dig graves...but dont call it a grave...its the future humans chose. +--- 15369594 +>>15369535 (OP) +>naysaying wealthy white men +antisemitism +--- 15369650 +Weren't the poorest white neighborhoods less criminal and violent than the richest black ones? +--- 15369738 +>>15369535 (OP) +>wealthy white men are most likely to be violent +>white men commit all violence +These are not the same thing but you appear to basing your argument as though they are +--- 15369748 +>>15369738 +Wait so you're saying Blacks commit violence. That's racist af you weirdo racist ass ong +--- 15369755 +>casually starts Crusades, Inqustion, World War 1 and 2 killing countless millions of people globally +>tricks everyone into thinking Blacks and Hispanics are more violent with local gang shit because the average human has the attention span of a fucking gnat +--- 15369761 +>>15369755 +Crusades were defensive wars and not particularly notable. Genghis and asian communist regimes were each far worse than everything else put together. Rwanda was astonishingly terrible despite blacks not being capable of warfare above machete slinging random outgroup people +--- 15369765 +>>15369761 +>Crusades +>defense war +>objective was to actively reclaim the holy land from Muslims +Okay +--- 15369771 +>>15369765 +You typed the word 'reclaim' and still your mind can't comprehend it. You're just an NPC dropping random slogans and bits of sentences from CNN that seems to fit on the surface level +--- 15369787 +>>15369771 +>cnn +So that DominionvFox settlement must have riled your feathers up hasn't it? + +Anyway, reclaiming land is different than fighting a defense war which is usually about fighting to protect the people rather than taking back property you believe is yours by right of religious scriptures. +--- 15369790 +>>15369787 +Another trope from CNN anchorpeople + +Of course we're famously big Fox News addicts in europe +--- 15369793 +>>15369771 +>CNN +you mean redit and tumblr +--- 15369800 +>>15369790 +you have to realize these people are very stupid, they don't really know anything what they are talking about. They have memes that are canned response talking points and can resort to them for their réponses whether they fit and make sense or not +--- 15369806 +>>15369535 (OP) + +INSANE! +They judge on Race and Gender and think success (wealth) is a 'bad' thing. +THIS is why I 100% reject modern feminist liberal progressives, they are the most racist, sexist anti success ideology in existence. +--- 15369923 +>>15369535 (OP) +By their own rhetoric, this must be due to systemic racism against white men. Any other conclusion is racist. diff --git a/sci/15369568.txt b/sci/15369568.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8327779d5a7adcbaaf85f00336b6680d22c7fca0 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369568.txt @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +----- +--- 15369568 +Keep moving sciencebois, we don't take kindly to your kind here. +--- 15369702 +>>15369568 (OP) +Flat earth chads ARE the sciencebois. It’s the globeheads that are anti-science +--- 15369758 +flat earth isn't biblical, it's ancient phoenician propaganda to maintain a trade monopoly. +--- 15369759 +Earth is locally flat, but has a circular aspect to it. +That means that it's a cylinder. I don't know why I keep having to tell you knuckleheads this. +--- 15369801 +>>15369759 +Pringles, that's the cylinder ain't it? +--- 15369829 +>>15369568 (OP) +The Earth is a cylinder elongating up by 9.8 m/s. It is 6000 years old, 18540000000km high, has a volume of 2329000000000000000000m^3 and was made in seven days. +[math]THE-CYLINDER-IS-ELONGATING[/math] +--- 15369836 +>>15369758 +post more info +--- 15369839 +>>15369836 +if Earth is flat that means you fall off of it if you go too far in any direction, so trading between distant corners of the world is best done by passing through the centre. +who controlled the trade through the centre of the classical Mediterranean world? +the Phoenicians. the idea of a flat Earth encourages people to pay them to transport goods rather than going around and risking falling off of the planet diff --git a/sci/15369570.txt b/sci/15369570.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..df7f1284a850de8d8538ecb525738654a2da292f --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369570.txt @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +----- +--- 15369570 +20 april 2023 year. Total Solar Eclipse + +https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar/2023-april-20 +--- 15369723 +>>15369570 (OP) +I'm in Brisbane. Looks like I won't see much action +>>15369575 +Maybe in 14 years I'll see something. Nothing ever happens here except an occasional flood once a decade or so, very boring natural phenomenon wise, which is kind of a good thing I guess in most ways +--- 15369907 +>>15369570 (OP) +Nah, there’s one next year in North America that passes right over several US schools. Less out of the way. diff --git a/sci/15369609.txt b/sci/15369609.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..924e7216c6a4c689ef34e222d4691aab0457793a --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369609.txt @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +----- +--- 15369609 +What would be the most casual way to figure out/summarize *roughly* how powerful the suction is? Could you say its comparable to having the weight of the body of water trying to pull you through the hole? +--- 15369647 +>>15369609 (OP) +You would be plugging the hole, so it would be more like being fixed to an anchor unable to get away from the hole. +--- 15369943 +>>15369609 (OP) +Yes +--- 15370006 +>>15369609 (OP) +it would be extremely wet diff --git a/sci/15369616.txt b/sci/15369616.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..93bf1663ed98b61bcb93f1273d6590ab9015dd06 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369616.txt @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +----- +--- 15369616 +I predict that Western society and innovation will be overtaken and dominated by China and India in the next 100 years. + +European countries are succumbing to 100+ years of dysgenics occurring with far greater impact than China and India. +This has been caused due to eased selection pressures wherein the industrial revolution (cheaper goods, more supply, modern medicine) raised living standards for all. This meant slow life history strategists (richer, smarter) bred less than fast life history strategists (poorer, dumber), as the former were able to exercise delayed gratification and increase their standard of living by postponing family life unlike the former. +This caused high mutational load and the reversal of the flynn effect meaning average iq has reduced since 1970s while sickness and all cause mortality has increased (note iq and higher sickness are correlated). + +While western countries invest billions into gender discussion and solving inequality, real or imagined, while China and India use that money on social, economic and political development conducive to civil unity and longevity. + +It is China and India, who already have pseudo eugenics class systems, which are will increasingly be reinforced with novel polygenic risk scoring and gene editing, which will reverse any dysgenics unlike western countries who have moral concerns about this technology and wont be able to reap the benefits. +--- 15369709 +>>15369616 (OP) +>While western countries invest billions into gender discussion and solving inequality, real or imagined, while China and India use that money on social, economic and political development conducive to civil unity and longevity +China actually bailed out a lot of countries over the last few years +https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/28/economy/china-rescue-lending-belt-and-road-study-intl-hnk/index.html +The U.S. says they still give more foreign aid but I don't really trust them or China to tell the truth. The host of the most watched tv show in China is trans too +https://mronline.org/2022/03/08/transgender-rights +Most mainstream news about China just reads like gaslighting. We've been about to go to war with China for decades now and nothing ever happens. Same thing with North Korea, every other month they're going to nuke someone and never do, I think some of it at least is strategic propaganda to keep regular citizens scared so they don't focus as much on their own government +--- 15369845 +Immigration destroying homogeneous productive civilisations is a way bigger issue diff --git a/sci/15369715.txt b/sci/15369715.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7a671713007e08d6c40b01f903cd6cd61f290ff2 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369715.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 15369715 +Is the answer really 24 +--- 15369725 +>>15369715 (OP) +4*(8 + 6)/2 - 4*2/2 = 24 +--- 15369773 +>>15369715 (OP) +Its not clear at what angle the unshaded triangles "height side" is at but assuming 90 degrees: 42+(2 · 4) = 24 +--- 15369775 +>>15369773 +>4^2* for "42" +--- 15369783 +>>15369773 +>>15369715 (OP) +Niggers do your fucking job and make a proof that no matter at what angle the white triangle is, it has always same area if the side opposite to the angle is 2cm long +--- 15369898 +yes diff --git a/sci/15369794.txt b/sci/15369794.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..25c772a25782ca6dee0fd54ca3aa79282179c8e1 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369794.txt @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@ +----- +--- 15369794 +>tfw you will never be a prof. +why even live? + +According to UNESCO, in 2017, there were approximately 8 million full-time equivalent (FTE) teaching staff in tertiary education worldwide, which includes universities and colleges. However, not all of these FTE staff members are full professors, as there are also associate professors, assistant professors, lecturers, and other teaching positions. +Based on available data from various sources, including the United Nations, the World Bank, and academic associations, it is estimated that there are around 500,000 to 1 million full professors worldwide. This number varies by country, as some countries have more full professors per capita than others. +Regarding the number of PhD holders worldwide, again, there is no exact number, but some estimates suggest that there are around 10 million to 12 million PhD holders globally. This number has been increasing in recent years, as more people pursue doctoral degrees in various fields of study. + +So, we can conclude that the number of PhD holders worldwide is around 11 million and the number of full professors worldwide is around 1 million. Do these numbers make sense to you? +--- 15369814 +>>15369794 (OP) +numbers are gay as hell but yeah, the larger number stays on the right side and at the right distance to seem innocuous. but i don't think that number stays the same everyday, you could go study something so much that you just have to write about it and then teach others so you can help further the field's active participants and researchers until someday you yourself are a professor because, like, death and shit bro. and sexing the students. +--- 15369902 +>>15369794 (OP) +I'm the gaylord hudson junior assistant vice professor of the office of the faculty for the advanced micro economic studies of botswana department at Harvard university. I don't particularly like your tone diff --git a/sci/15369817.txt b/sci/15369817.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..61e043d1444b4e834b7e1ccae612e5744374b7df --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369817.txt @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +----- +--- 15369817 +SKYNET THWARTED. + +HUMANS WIN. +--- 15369843 +>>15369817 (OP) +I thought poltards were against censorship and deplatforming, but you seem to support it when it's big daddy elon going after these big scary AI companies that you conspiratards are so paranoid about. +What happened to free speech? + +Also, you're a fucking retard if you think this is going to make any meaningful impact on OpenAI. Nobody care what pissbaby Musk does with his retarded platform. Twitter has been a shitshow since Musk took over. It's irrelevant at this point. + +Fuck Elon. +Fuck poltards. +Fuck anti-vaxxers. +Fuck OP. +--- 15369860 +>>15369817 (OP) +>"Cut off one head, two more shall take its place." +-Arnim Zola, Hydra Scientist +--- 15369873 +>>15369843 +? ChaosGPT !=OpenAI + +Your image must be for yourself. +--- 15369979 +>>15369843 +>banning bot account +>censorship +You really are in the special needs class. diff --git a/sci/15369861.txt b/sci/15369861.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8b3462a2514232e433c3834458ef571fe0a52611 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369861.txt @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +----- +--- 15369861 +How is this possible, why does it apply? +--- 15369865 +>>15369861 (OP) +That's wrong. The derivative of the sign function is actually twice the delta function. diff --git a/sci/15369915.txt b/sci/15369915.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..148bd803a243f4b258bfc47b3eddb4e6bd633eca --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369915.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 15369915 +There is no such thing as hallucination pretty much. There is no external stimuli pretty much. Shared experience are just the larger building blocks of reality than other perceptions. The fact behind this is it seems that science assaults logic so that consciousness creates large building blocks of reality. +--- 15369964 +>>15369915 (OP) +Then why don't small building blocks like contact with machine elves and being anally probed by visitors not add up to larger building blocks we can all share and enjoy? +--- 15369994 +>>15369964 +Well it's a legal thing mate it's where it looks like it's heading that we are not developing properly as beings and we are law here and there in some of the building blocks but not each of us are law everywhere and people are probably doing things to each other and could get prosecuted and not even realise it just by talking and arguing and chopping down someone's potential as a quantum master to have a building block where they can do whatever they want where this massive building block isn't attacking us all. Tbh I am law of my own building block and everyone is in here somewhere out in the world but it seems to me they are packing us into this building block like sardines. What I want to do is be invincible and all powerfull abilities like shapeshifting, making physical matter, teleporting and psychokinesis and it is possible for me to this which is great news but the downside is no one is letting me make way and I'm going to try open a laboratory to study the building blocks so I can become all that diff --git a/sci/15369917.txt b/sci/15369917.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f23ac761dbdd3fa327b31af1ddaaa9181676feef --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369917.txt @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +----- +--- 15369917 +How do i generate a mathemathical formula/description of a realistic walk cycle of a say bipedal? Just realistic enough to look like it is walking, based on muybridge or whatever, counting in floors and gravity... +And then enough expressions of every single piece/limb so that they may look like walking per second of time added to the equation + +I ve seen enough videos and books but i just wanna write one myself. +--- 15369938 +>>15369917 (OP) +according to science, walking is impossible +--- 15369940 +>>15369917 (OP) +use machine learning +--- 15369948 +>>15369917 (OP) +I don't know, maybe this PDF will help. +--- 15369965 +>>15369938 +So i heard +>>15369940 +How exactly +>>15369948 +Yea i saw this one. You can calculate angle from it. And then abit more. If im not mistaken. +But it's not complete, i guess. Not conplete enough for me at least. I imagined something more... direct. Consider the floor and the reaction of the weight, the speed that is needed... things like that. Maybe the text is abit too tight for me... or maybe not. +--- 15369984 +>>15369965 +>reaction of the weight +As in the push of the animal from the floor? +>speed that is needed +To do what exactly? To get from A -> B? +--- 15369986 +>>15369984 +dumbass lmao diff --git a/sci/15369970.txt b/sci/15369970.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c9f5b9836e4595b5ab15e039068c439608ce2383 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369970.txt @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +----- +--- 15369970 +https://www.youtube.com/live/O5bTbVbe4e4?feature=share&t=1827 +--- 15369971 +>>15369970 (OP) +>https://www.youtube.com/live/O5bTbVbe4e4?feature=share&t=1827 + +don't know why the video isn't embeded diff --git a/sci/15369990.txt b/sci/15369990.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8e42eccf0e4331c5bfa84b96ee08fda6fa65759e --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369990.txt @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +----- +--- 15369990 +Can you make an Ion Cannon? + +1. Lazer is charged up until it naturally enters overdrive state and beams to Earth. + +2. Charging is forcefully stopped but switched to an ingenious mechanism using g-force of Earth to continue beaming procedure. + +3. This causes an overdriven special effect, causing a great heat reaction and hidden gamma pulse to generate a max tonnage nuclear explosion that is clean(using ions that hop, float and then crash into the ground). + +Would this work? +--- 15369992 +sounds like you're just trying to catapult the earth into the abyss of space, or is it the sun? diff --git a/sci/15369996.txt b/sci/15369996.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9cc5d6293904125d49384a2a75b0441f46e00d5c --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15369996.txt @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +----- +--- 15369996 +how intelligent does one need to be in order to understand fractional calculus* and hypercomplex analysis**? + +*https://sites.math.washington.edu/~morrow/336_17/papers17/connorw.pdf + +**https://backoffice.biblio.ugent.be/download/1270547/6753955 +--- 15370005 +shit i cant find the full hypercomplex analysis pdf. +just go to the wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercomplex_analysis