diff --git a/k/58009490.txt b/k/58009490.txt index 3f3eb64d9028697898a58c9b4a62b4c761e2975f..09fe80aa3e88360f36bb3f2f54b2492abd1e9837 100644 --- a/k/58009490.txt +++ b/k/58009490.txt @@ -567,3 +567,130 @@ They're B-class submarines in the photo, I believe. Interestingly though, speaki >>58058009 >korabl When I was in the the USN I did a side assignment which was an intel course in San Diego. At the end of the course we had to presentation to the CO of the school on a platform. The Soviet GWEF platform was one of the choices to present. I passed on this considering it an experimental platform with limited range and impact. History says my assumptions were correct. +--- 58072966 +>>58072318 +idk much about the soviet surface navy but I like their ideas, with small carriers and missile maxxing cruisers. Im happy they never had to use their stuff in anger but I wonder how it would play out. its interesting that China is choosing to emulate US navy doctrine (more expensive) instead of Soviet doctrine +--- 58073348 +>>58072966 +They were interesting. Not trying to compete 1:1 with the USN (and when they did start trying some ideas like carriers and heavy surface units, the budget was already gone so ships ended up tied up or cancelled.) A lot of emphasis on ASW and ships with heavy missiles. Naval aviation less of a priority because it was thought the USSR was large enough to provide air support to any naval units in foreseen theaters. +China should rely on a similar strategy of a Bastion Defense, not needing carrier groups to project power, but they want them for prestige. So long as there's no actual war then it's an expense which serves the purpose of showing the flag. +--- 58073371 +I adore those little Kamov helicopters. +--- 58073687 +Have one i took. +--- 58073756 +>>58073348 +>they want them for prestige +They need them to enforce claims in the SCS and project power to secure shipping of strategic goods. They actually have a very large need for naval aviation and power projection. Map is old, but it demonstrates the point. +--- 58073861 +>>58073756 +Forgot map, instead here's a picture of the JS Izumo and PLAN Liaoning. +--- 58073946 +>>58073861 +Love to see the Izumo go "Debt of Honor" and turn broadside and put a full spread of torpedoes into the Liaoning. +> sorry, accident +> ChiComs, show us your damage control +--- 58073974 +>>58073861 +Mogged by a helicarrier with F-35s +--- 58073985 +>>58073861 +Never knew Japanese and Chinese ships ever got that close. Neat. +--- 58073993 +>>58073974 +>helicarrier +It's an ASW Destroyer. +--- 58074002 +The entire boat is a beautiful weapon. + +Weapons can be used for good. + +Or they can be used for evil. + +It's up to the commander. + +It's up to the chief. + +But there is one plain historical fact: + +The US Navy is the most powerful navy ever assembled in human history. + +The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship (spy ship), USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian NSA employee), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish. + +Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship. Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity.[6] Others, including survivors of the attack, have rejected these conclusions and maintain that the attack was deliberate. + +In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3.32 million (equivalent to US$25.9 million in 2021) to the U.S. government in compensation for the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3.57 million ($26.4 million in 2021) to the men who had been wounded. In December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million ($19.7 million in 2021) as the final settlement for material damage to Liberty itself plus 13 years of interest. + +>Just pay em off! + +>That'll fix it! + +>Don't forget to account for interest, like a loan, but blood! +--- 58074016 +>>58073974 +Sir, there are no carriers in that picture, merely a destroyer and cruiser. +--- 58074048 +>>58074002 + +Let's run a quick calculation. + +How much is the life of 1 (one) American life according to the godless zionists? + +Let's account for inflation as well. + +$25.9 million / 34 American soldiers + +$761,764 per American life + +As long as they have enough in the bank, they can kill as many American as they want! + +That's our zionist occupied federal government. +--- 58074051 +Interesting design for a destroyer. +I'm no naval expert but maybe the Japanese should have used some of that deck space for VLS? Maybe they just didn't have the budget for it. +--- 58074067 +>>58074048 + +>As long as they have enough in the bank, they can kill as many Americans* as they want! + +Unless we rise up in glorious revolutionary war and liberate ourselves. + +Citizens, police, soldiers, veterans, all in our militias. + +Patriots, people who live liberty, who love America. +--- 58074083 +>>58074002 +>>58074048 +>>58074067 +Can + +you + +stop + +typing + +like + +a +fag. +--- 58074733 +>>58018633 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCANFAR +--- 58076972 +>>58074733 checked +>SCANFAR +Bless you. +(reads) +> SCANFAR +> first phased array radar system to be deployed by the US Navy +> installed on the USS Long Beach (CGN-9) and USS Enterprise (CVN-65) +> the system proved to be temperamental, +> due largely to the huge number of vacuum tubes it used +> In 1967, the USS Long Beach radar system was converted from electronic tubes to solid state electronic boards +> Converting to solid state for radar and radio equipment lightened the superstructure +> by 20 tons. +Wow. +--- 58078327 +>>58076972 +wtf lmao diff --git a/k/58012524.txt b/k/58012524.txt index 85976beb7eec8280f573e46f450f97a7a6f23871..919afe0959f7e279c0358ba1b0b797f1c981c9be 100644 --- a/k/58012524.txt +++ b/k/58012524.txt @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ --- 58012524 MY. EXHAUST. IS. HEAVY. edition -Previous thread: >>57886810 → +Previous thread: >>57886810 Lying about medical record: GOOD (YMMV) Lying about criminal record: BAD @@ -831,3 +831,171 @@ Real men don’t join the Airforce, unless as a pilot, but I know that’s not w --- 58070567 >>58070296 I can’t imagine allowing my tax dollars to pay for this. I sure hope you don’t either, or else you are just as culpable. +--- 58071851 +>>58070147 +They're all different. I did 4 interviews, 2 O4 and 2 O5. I had the benefit of being prior enlisted so they all said I knew what I was getting myself into. After that it was a friendly chat and I just asked them a bunch of questions(make a list). +Main questions is why navy? +Why serve? +How do you feel about deploying? +I would reckon depending on your job you going for they could ask technical knowledge or a scenario, but they never did that for me. It was really easy, for 1 a commander literally detailed her career then asked me if I had any questions lmao. +Very nice with recruiter. Mine is a bum, had to always annoy him, partially why I didn't go Navy. +--- 58073236 +>>58070296 +*saves your failing recruitment numbers* +--- 58073389 +Is this an effective recruitment strategy, or a loyalty test? +--- 58073469 +>>58073236 +Wait... The navy are.... Gay? +--- 58073816 +>>58028759 +Goddamn, I really regret using my friend's wax pen after being completely clean for 5 months. It's been 2 weeks and I'm considering just waiting another month to even talk to the recruiter cause I want my chances of pissing hot to be zero. +--- 58073882 +>>58070296 +>>58073236 +I don't believe this shit for a second. They absolutely know this will do nothing to boost recruiting numbers, it's just another wave of demoralization. +Y gay? +--- 58073916 +Man I'm constantly concerned that 22 is too old to enlist, but then I see some retard at 25+ also considering enlisting. +--- 58074367 +>>58073916 +Why the hell would 22 be too old to enlist? +--- 58075201 +>>58073916 +I'm 26 thinking about CG haven't even begun the process yet +--- 58075509 +35N, 17C, or 17E? +--- 58075527 +>>58073236 +To be fair American battle trannies would still be better soldiers than the Russians turned out to be. +--- 58075570 +>>58012524 (OP) +>Be depressed, lonely, and mentally ill +>Friends beg and plead for me to get therapy +>Can't afford it on with my meager retail and still pay + +Is it possible to get therapy for free or at a reduced cost through the guard or is suicide my oy valid option? +--- 58075612 +>>58070253 +I got mine pulled in AIT after they did on mandatory checkup on me and found that there was an infection brewing in the back of my mouth. It was free of charge for me of course so I don't know Why that wouldn't be the case for you either. +--- 58075627 +>>58073916 +I just joined the navy. Im 24. If you’ve considered all your options and still think I’d be good for you go see a recruiter. For me I got sick of not only living with my parents but going nowhere in life jumping from job to job, and I was working at publix which has a good reputation. +--- 58075946 +>>58075509 +17C if your recruiter can whip up a sub-six year contract for you. I don't think those exist for that MOS but you might as well ask about it while you're there. +Otherwise a three year 35N contract. + +>>58075570 +Get an Adderall/Vyvanse/Desoxyn prescription instead. +--- 58076245 +>>58075946 +I'm reclassing. Does that make a difference? +--- 58076889 +>>58067096 +never been but my highspeed buddy failed twice during patrols, I imagine it's difficult for non infantry +--- 58078340 +>>58028932 +A complete waste of time, honestly. You'll do things ranging from lessons to section attacks. Everyone is your typical left wing Reddit/army cadet know it all type and is only there so they can brag to their civvie friends about how they're a soldier. Join the regular army instead. There are no lefty faggots in regular infantry battalions. +--- 58078719 +My uncle is very angry at me for wanting to join the army. He was a 12b in Iraq during the initial invasion from ‘03 to ‘06, and he has PTSD. +--- 58078774 +>>58078340 +Are you in? I'm not so fond of binding myself to the government for 4 years. I was, but I am less so now. I am just seeking the opportunity to gain combat arms training and fieldcraft skills. +--- 58078799 +>>58028248 +Look up HowToBeAPJ as well as Ones Ready podcast. Seems to be pretty solid info from a bunch of AFSOC dudes. (2pjs 1 CCT and a SOWT/SR) +--- 58078800 +>>58078719 +He just doesn't want you to get fucked up anon. He cares about you and knows his shit so do listen to him, but remember it's your life. +--- 58078836 +>>58048346 +If you do something memorable in life and get a Wikipedia article do you want it to say Army or Air Force +--- 58078848 +>>58058415 +Only bootcamp you should go to is the one at your local gym, fatty. +--- 58078857 +>>58078774 +not him but im in 6rar and can answer any questions you have about infantry. you have to bind yourself to something, why not something youre passionate about? if i were you i would call the local reserve unit and let them know youre interested in joining and see what they have to say. they might give you a tour and show you what they get up to +--- 58079086 +>>58073916 +When you’re in your 30s you’re going to realize how retarded it was to think 22 was too old. As a matter of fact, until your age starts with a 3 or 4, being too old should be a question. +--- 58079100 +>>58079086 +even 40 isnt too old for a combat arms role +--- 58079955 +>>58078340 +this is bait, do not go active duty. This anon is just trying to bring you down with him +--- 58080049 +anyone have experience with Navy Nuke? I had to take a test to qualify but I want to know if someone who isn't a recruiter had a similar positive experience with it. while getting an MIT level education in 2 years sounds enticing it doesn't seem to perfectly fit what I'm looking for. +--- 58080120 +>>58023844 +Slavs treat everyone like shit. +--- 58080140 +>>58080049 +It's a gamble. It's a guaranteed 6 figure job once you get out, but you're going to be dealing with spastic retards while you're in, chiefs and officers that aren't old enough to drink, and the highest suicide rate in the fleet. + +You're also locked with the reactor you're assigned to pretty much for your entire career unless you go instructor, and that won't happen until you're a chief. +--- 58080145 +What kind of future job prospects would being in the infantry provide relevant experience for? Are American PMCs still a thing? Do high paying security gigs exist? +--- 58080154 +>>58012905 +I just recently left one of the big reserve centers in central Texas. Reserve Officers, once you get out of New Jersey, barely do shit except listen to 'please keep your Sailors from raping people and killing themselves' Powerpoints. + +t. sonofabitch who had to make those Powerpoints. +--- 58080170 +>>58016591 +>Why is the military so left wing? + +Are you fucking retarded? The only profession more right-wing would be cops. I think you're mistaking the rainbow washing bullshit at the O8+ level with the actual military. +--- 58080230 +>>58031238 +I got out as an E-5 (Navy) and some of the best people I worked with were O-3. We fit basically the same role within our categories - tard wranglers, which leads to a lot of solidarity. That being said, most E-5's are on the lower end of average intelligence, with O-3's on the higher end. It's not a big overall difference, and it can vary like some other anons have said. + +The big gamechanger is if they're Mustangs. Prior enlisted come in two flavors: dickheads that forgot where they came from the minute they put on the shield, and scarily competent dudes. +--- 58080342 +>>58075612 +did they offer you bone grafting, and if so what price? +--- 58080450 +>>58080230 +>The big gamechanger is if they're Mustangs. Prior enlisted come in two flavors: dickheads that forgot where they came from the minute they put on the shield, and scarily competent dudes. +Your forgot the third category: +officers that still try to run the small things like when they were an E-6 +--- 58080568 +>>58078719 +did you tell his dumbfuck soldier ass that it is peacetime? +--- 58080578 +>>58080154 +I am OP. +Why NJ? I am actually in Texas right now. Where you at NAS Fort Worth? I was thinking about doing the full time option if I like the job and culture. +--- 58080813 +off topic but what is that fuck fuck game where a dirty soldier has to movie his entire barracks room outside and organize it exactly how it was in their room and pull security on it? +--- 58080978 +>>58080813 +Not a game but it used to be a punishment in the British Army. The recruit (because it was only done to recruits) would have to sleep outside as well, depending on the weather. +--- 58081074 +What does 11b/11c do during peacetime? That is the only MOS that attracts me. +--- 58081117 +>>58081074 +Physical training. +Infantry training. +Maintaining weapons and vehicles. +Cleaning. +Lessons. +--- 58081134 +is pvt. Hernandez a meme? do weebs really enlist just to go to japan? +--- 58081181 +>>58081134 +All of the hardcore weebs I've met in the military were black. +I did a rotation to Europe once and the black commo dude a bunk down from me would loudly talk about how much he loved loli hentai all the time. +--- 58081373 +>>58080813 +>off topic but what is that fuck fuck game where a dirty soldier has to movie his entire barracks room + + +It's not a fuck fuck game if you know exactly what they did. Keep your fucking barracks clean, or stop being an E-none and move out. +--- 58081393 +>>58079955 +This. I've learned that Active Duty cucks, just want everyone to be everyone to be as miserable as them. +--- 58081651 +How does life in the 75th Ranger Regiment differ from a normal infantry unit? diff --git a/k/58021927.txt b/k/58021927.txt index ac943620ff3397acb86861bccb8d9b603433d817..ec91a69f288f07861ff1e297b8589a60e16af736 100644 --- a/k/58021927.txt +++ b/k/58021927.txt @@ -493,3 +493,27 @@ based and truth-pilled. >used to have night terrors about the Grays >started praying whenever it happened and invoking Jesus's name >the night terrors stop +--- 58071364 +>>58070428 +based +--- 58072492 +>>58049236 +kek +--- 58073074 +>>58034886 +bane? +--- 58073717 +>>58021927 (OP) +Silver birdshot. +You want to get as much silver in them as possible without chance of over penetration. +--- 58075859 +>>58049539 +--- 58077839 +>>58049006 +Kek +--- 58079621 +>>58070073 +I already have a real biological gun loving tomboy with a voracious sexual appetite, I don't need a mentally ill eunuch with an open wound. +--- 58081157 +>>58021927 (OP) +Anything would work, load em with Oregon Trail bullets (TM) diff --git a/k/58029302.txt b/k/58029302.txt index 2b59f7cd7f2a709fd15e792f3de7dc514aa88890..970f0e04a0735de7131040d2440a2e0cd5c07925 100644 --- a/k/58029302.txt +++ b/k/58029302.txt @@ -542,3 +542,129 @@ show receipt --- 58069588 >>58069007 I don't need to +--- 58071333 +>>58056797 +>buying the same knife 23 times +--- 58071360 +My father passed and this was in his truck I inherited. I put new batteries in it and it turned right on. It started playing Mexican radio and I thought ha he would have hated it +--- 58071759 +>>58068588 +Don't be a faggot, keep two max and return the rest to go buy ammo. +You'll thank me. A little bird told me you'll need the ammo, not the knives. You specifically. In your lifetime. Next year. Work on your cardio, that'll be a key part of whether you survive the event or not. Aim for the chest and don't stop pulling the trigger until they're clearly and surely dead. It's gonna be a hard one to tell in the dark. Run far and fast and hunt them, they'll be hunting you. Don't give up your position by breathing heavily. Get it under control and you'll be fine. Just make the most of your gun. A knife will not save you, slishslash fag. I'd recommend a 44mag and a few reloads/moonclips. Godspeed. + +4MY TP0 = make any sense to you? +--- 58072185 +>>58071759 +>4MY TP0 +Doesn't make sense to me yet. I'll write it down, though. +--- 58072396 +>>58068025 +>WTF happened to Condor Knife & Tool +People found out about them. They're popular enough to do MAP pricing now. +--- 58072451 +For me it's the Fallkniven F1, sharpening is a bit hard, but once it is sharpened, it keeps it's edge for a good amount of time. + +I wonder why it's unpopular in the US? Maybe because the prices are a bit higher? +--- 58073101 +>>58072451 +If you're talking about the ~$400 one, it's wildly overpriced +--- 58073229 +>>58072451 +the sheathe being a cheap POS doesn't do them any favors. Most people into knives made in Scandinavia are all aboard the puukko train so it doesn't have appeal there. + +Basically it's a totally normal knife with decent steel. There are thousands of those to choose from and plenty cheaper. +--- 58073279 +>>58073101 +Well, these prices are with 19% VAT, if you order outside from the EU it's getting cheaper. +The shop is knifestock.de +--- 58073306 +>>58073229 +>cheap POS +You can select the leather sheath. +>Basically it's a totally normal knife +Yes. Not sure why this is a problem. +--- 58073429 +>>58073306 +>You can select the leather sheath. +Nobody does +>Yes. Not sure why this is a problem. +Because America makes loads of those and there's not much to make the Fallkniven stand out. +--- 58073610 +>>58053738 +I always liked the cold steel tanto apart from the blade shape, I really don't like the chisel-tip "american" tanto style at all, but I do like this modified tanto style. +>Check the secondhand market, +check this, even with the currency difference this is the kind of pricing in the secondhand market ($160-200 NZD = $100-125 USD) +https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/sports/hunting-shooting/knives/hunting-knives/search?search_string=ka-bar + +so even used ka-bars will cost about the same or even more than a new one from bladehq or knifecenter. Not including shipping, of course, but also with no warranty and I tend to order multiple things when I buy online anyway. domestic stores mark them up ridiculously because the big competitive US knife stores are just not what people here buy from, especially boomer hunter types. I'm seriously considering just getting all of them then selling the ones I like the least because I will 100% get all my money back and maybe even make a little profit. +--- 58073761 +>>58068025 + Just ignore the wacky designs like always and wait for them to drop something good once in a while. Love me my Condor Stratos +--- 58075257 +Any one remember the Ukrainian knife maker on Etsy? Forgot his name. +--- 58075280 +>>58075257 +Found him: +https://www.etsy.com/de/listing/1397189619/bps-knives-bk06-ssh-klassisches?click_key=4d8e78ef077838fba14992f5939015bf1589419c%3A1397189619&click_sum=053985a8&ref=shop_home_active_22 +Prices have exploded. +--- 58075343 +>>58031728 +How do you see a good European longsword as working to cut things? Like it could cut a man but it might break? +--- 58075372 +>>58072451 +American knife companies are good and have good warranties. Easier to mail my knife to an American company if I need to. Also having the absolute best knife for bushywushy just isn't really a concern for most users unless they run a youtube channel or are the 1% of hardass woodfucks actually pushing themselves out there +--- 58075535 +>>58075280 +They don't look high what where they before +--- 58075558 +>>58075535 +Started at 20 or so. They got popular, so the dude raised the prices. +--- 58075892 +What's a good, small sheath? Preferably something that I can just clip to my belt and keep it concealed under my shirt. +--- 58077295 +>>58075892 +Yeah, try this great one called "Up Yours". +--- 58077425 +>>58029302 (OP) +Picked up a couple blem kershaw's, was getting a leek to replace one I lost and saw this sweet tiger stripe 1776 model. +Is cpm 20cv any good? +--- 58078147 +>>58077425 +it is; one of the best all-round steels +--- 58078178 +>>58029302 (OP) +are cobratec OTF knives good or just a flashy toy? +--- 58078207 +>>58073610 +Again, check Aliexpress for a Cold steel knife you want. Or at least you used to be able to. I know both of these were made in Taiwan, (>>58043761) but I picked them up secondhand for $60 +--- 58078563 +>>58078207 +Do they have an official store on aliex? +--- 58078604 +>>58056797 +It's just larptrash. Knives are either tools used in the field by manly men strong of heart and thicc of benis, or pathetic trash hoarded by LARPtards. +--- 58078678 +>>58061637 +Military knives are tools. I killed my USAF survival knife (tiny tang, piece of shit) and Kabar in ordinary use opening crates. I can see the survival knife which was originally an aircraft transparency breaker in SEA (the thin side windows etc) but it still wasn't impressive. + +At least they were free along with a Bitchmade and various multitools (be nice to Supply). + +>>58065898 +Best way to break a transparency (you're not breaking the thicc birdstrike-resistant shit but most of those blow off before the seat fires) is stab as hard as you can to create a crack then kick the shit out of it. I'd rather not have to and a tomahawk would be vastly better. +--- 58078683 +>>58029302 (OP) +>while you were practicing the firearm, I was studying the blade +--- 58078687 +>>58078563 +Nah, but you just have to really look for them on the app. The Taiwanese factories making them for Cold Steel are trying to make some more money on their products. I bought a AliExpress Kobun years ago, lost it and bought an Amazon Kobun right away. Couldn't tell any difference, days apart. Sheath retention and the clip was superstrong on both regards. The branding was exactly the same +--- 58078783 +>>58075343 +hes not complaining that its European. hes pointing out that any sword will get damaged when you swing it at things. proper technique and target choice will mitigate that damage but you noob ass wont do that. when you hear damage you think some shit like it dramatically snaps in half but what he means is minor edge chips/deformation where you hit a rock or nail or other hard object or simply botch the edge alignment swinging budget excaliber at it. +that minor damage is a shitload easier to accept on a 50-100$ beater katana or 5-30$ machete you got off amazon compared to the 300+ it takes to get an entry level european sword. +your dumbass will damage whatever sword you buy if you try using it. +--- 58079522 +>>58029570 +The Mac Tekno Rescue X knife costs around 70$. +--- 58080183 +>>58071360 +neat diff --git a/k/58033258.txt b/k/58033258.txt index 1393c81f21da6936a7944cbde8b4fa7082654fde..2c692be6c3c96d8af51ed797b240e952c8008e24 100644 --- a/k/58033258.txt +++ b/k/58033258.txt @@ -719,3 +719,83 @@ You can buy those now anon. The most advanced models have rotating hips or neck. >>58063562 >robot butlers with a pussy? +--- 58071326 +>>58033558 +The fact there are so many subhuman government worshipers replying to you just shows how many glowniggers are infesting /k/. +--- 58071896 +>>58067206 +No match for a bipedal robot with a gun. +--- 58072417 +>>58033258 (OP) +>Once these can be weaponized, its basically over +>>58033303 +Wow, it's like spetsnaz but robot, it truely is ova +--- 58072502 +>>58065061 +LOL +--- 58073806 +>>58045178 +So nothing will change? +--- 58073926 +In blindsight one of the crew members is military and is in command of the drone soldiers that fight the aliens at the end of the book - the point is made that the meat isn't really there to command, it's a safety valve and a leash. Once you kill the human in the loop the robots become *more* deadly +--- 58073934 +>>58033258 (OP) +That's CGI +--- 58073944 +>>58073926 +> How long would it take an enemy tactician to discern Bates' mind behind the actions of her troops on the battlefield? How long before the obvious logic came clear? In any combat situation, this woman would naturally draw the greatest amount of enemy fire: take off the head, kill the body. But Amanda Bates wasn't just a head: she was a bottleneck, and her body would not suffer from a decapitation strike. Her death would only let her troops off the leash. How much more deadly would those grunts be, once every battlefield reflex didn't have to pass through some interminable job stack waiting for the rubber stamp? +--- 58074233 +>>58034441 +Pretty sure it's just for the dumb vatniks back home who will believe anything +--- 58074253 +Does it have a force field that blocks bullets? + +The fundamental rules of war never change. + +But war continues to evolve with society. +--- 58074283 +>>58033530 +You can disable its electronic components without even shooting it as well. Overloading its circuits or just simply hacking it. You can also physically restrain it with a net and other objects, they push it around with a hockey stick. Also, there are no moral qualms about killing robots, but there are moral qualms with robots killing people. Would the robot soldier get a funeral, or just be sent back to the shop? Real Ghost in the Shell hours. Sci-fi predicting the future. +--- 58075431 +>>58042499 +>I love the 'send marines and soldiers against AR-15s' and them being outnumbered, like that isn't exactly what was going on in Iraq where we repeatedly fucked them over until we got bored, then they ISIS'd and we creamed them again. +--- 58075472 +>>58033828 +>This is stupid as fuck. Paid drone operators will just hide in bunkers. All you need to do is hire a bunch of borderline neet retards who hate everyone and offer them chicken tendies to fulfill their childhood dream of shooting everyone up. + +And then the second they go off-base to buy said chicken tendies, they disappear, and turn up a week later in a dumpster burned to a crisp with their genitals cut off and stuffed in their mouths. And after that, their comrades, realizing that their actions do in fact, have consequences, will start putting in requests or transfers to avoid the same fate. +--- 58075610 +What problems does P vs NP involve? Does solving it mean limitless energy etc.? +--- 58075836 +>>58033258 (OP) +I thought they were powered by ridiculously large cables. Since when can they run on battery power alone? +--- 58077870 +>>58075836 +boomer moment +--- 58078106 +the only advantage this has is doorways and stairs. which is a pretty big advantage, but if somethings worth putting a 150 grand robot into, its worth putting a 200 pound bomb for a fraction of the price into it. + +this is useful for...hostage situations or shit like that. like yeah cool its a walking robot, how does it react to drones with grenades +--- 58078137 +>>58078106 +actually fuck grenades, how does it respond to a drone with a net +--- 58078810 +>>58033258 (OP) +>born in time to see the US government send the battle droid army against the chuds +--- 58078931 +>>58078106 +Yeah but as suicide bombers show, bombs are a one-and-done deal. This can hold ground. +--- 58079136 +>>58075431 +>Western Coalition dead: 3,500 +>Taliban dead: 53,000 +>Afghans dead: 70,000 +>20 years of poppy field control: Priceless +yea crushing defeat for the west lmao +--- 58081796 +>>58033258 (OP) +--- 58081807 +>>58033303 +>backflips 360 degrees and leaves +--- 58081894 +>>58033258 (OP) diff --git a/k/58037356.txt b/k/58037356.txt index 88e739bcbb8c6acd23ad883af7b5cd74dd7876ec..008ec76864006a9faebbb7debee9d5a144742f54 100644 --- a/k/58037356.txt +++ b/k/58037356.txt @@ -431,3 +431,113 @@ Have fun anon, I'm still of the opinion that shooting clays is about the most fu --- 58069039 >>58068997 Maybe he African Carries +--- 58070993 +>>58068997 +Interesting. That's how it came, guess the police were using it backwards +--- 58071712 +>>58053657 +Inertia is cool +--- 58072081 +>>58069031 +>I'm still of the opinion that shooting clays is about the most fun you have have with a gun in general. +I agree. It's also the most challenging since it's just "point, swing thru and shoot". +>>58071712 +very nice +what is the caliber (and shell length) +--- 58072109 +aaand my former turkshit Akkar Altay. It shot actually quite reliable, but I didn't trust the thin aluminum parts in the gas system. My 'new' Auto 5 is build like a tank. Quite literally since everything except the magtube is made out of steel. +feelsgoodman.jpg +--- 58072710 +>>58072109 +>trust the thin aluminum parts in the gas system +JFC, I know people meme about "turkshit" but that's honestly nuts. +--- 58072778 +>>58037356 (OP) +Long bois you say?... +>>58065986 +10GA GANG +--- 58073018 +I really need a semi-auto again +But only want M4/M1014 +Maybe later this year after I tackle a few other non-gun related expenses that need my attention +Love my pumps tho, think I'll take my 870 out this weekend +--- 58075326 +>>58072081 +Chambered in 12 gauge 2½ inch. Have not been able to find shells for it yet unfortunately +--- 58075350 +>>58073018 +God I want an M37 so bad bro's +--- 58075378 +>>58037356 (OP) +Posted my Remington mod 11 before. Bought from another anon on bst. Needed some work but she's up and running. Great for the clay pigeon simulated hunting course at my range. +--- 58075593 +>>58069039 +>>58070993 +--- 58075611 +>>58075350 +I love my Ithaca, kind of wish I had got the 4+1 18" instead for aesthetics, but I'll never sell this baby. +Otherwise the action is butta and that trigger is astonishing. +This is a newer production I got ~10yrs ago, so no slamfire +>my 1897 has it +>like full auto it's fun but mostly a gimmick +>unless you're a cowboy shooter +But in removing slamfire they did this annoying thing where if you don't release the trigger before working the action you just end up with a dead trigger +--- 58075745 +>>58075326 +Look into loading your own shotshells with a tool called a roll crimper. This requires far less gear than loading rifle or pistol cartridges. Upfront cost is low and it pays for itself very quickly since 2.5in 12ga is expensive niche ammo these days. +--- 58075833 +>>58075745 +Break action or semi? I used to down load some smokeless 2 3/4 shells to the appropriate charge into my Remington mod 1900 with 2.5" chambers and just cut the shells to size. Then reseal with melted bees wax and cardboard. Worked 100% of the time and no special tools required. Also did with black powder for fun. +Definitely would not do for a semi or pump though. +--- 58075862 +>>58075833 +Nvm. Just saw your inertial. In thag case you will need a crimper. But you could still use 2 3/4 shells as a base and down load/shorten appropriately..wouldn't have to worry about seating primers or buying powder. +--- 58077351 +Anyone here have one of those Take-down Savage 99s with the .410 barrel? +--- 58078918 +I'm trying to justify a short over under. It's 20" with chokes enough length for geese hunting? +--- 58079148 +>>58078918 +Yeah, you'll need to train with it more as it's not gonna have the same sort of swinging motion as a traditional goose gun, but it's not like you're sacrificing much velocity. I've seen folks use 22" pumps as do it all shotguns so I'm sure you can make do with 2 less inches +--- 58079201 +>>58043247 +>He has a stevens +Tbh one of the best out there +--- 58079394 +>>58044802 +He specifically requested the opposite of this +--- 58079443 +Do bump stocks work with semi automatic shotguns? +--- 58079459 +>>58065670 +>>58065835 +>>58065846 + +>>58069031 +Is shot trap in HS with my 28” 870, great fun. + +>>58073018 +Me too, I would sell a kidney for a M4 entry with collapsible stock. + +>>58075611 +Ithaca’s are based AF based solely on watching retro cop shows. +--- 58079628 +>>58064388 +Typically cheap box feds are let down by shitty mags. The other reason they're uncompetitive is inherent to their loading. With tube feds, the meta is to load while you move, if you're not shooting you're moving and loading, top off loading and reloading as a whole is pretty much the skill gap in practical shotgun. With box feds, you can't top off load while you move, and you need to plan your reloads; while moving between groups of targets, instead of loading an extra 4 rounds, you might end up dumping a mag with 5 shells in it for a fresh mag. This adds a lot more planning when running a stage walk through. And don't even get me started on changing ammo types half way through a stage. You also end up spending a shit load on (good) mags that you could've otherwise spent on upgrading your gun. I've rambled but you get the idea, there's more to it than just "unreliable mags". Fwiw I know people who can load 8 into a tube off a belt faster than I can put a new box mag in my vepr. +--- 58080047 +>>58040088 +I'll take that 1300 off your hands I need a Defender to match my Ranger. +--- 58080068 +>>58037356 (OP) +what do we think about birdshot cutshells bros? +I'm scared to damage my shotty doing this shit but damn it really looks like you're shooting the shot point-blank into your target. I've shot slugs before. + +any experiences? +--- 58081193 +>>58080068 +>birdshot cut shells +For what reason would you do this? +--- 58081983 +>>58080068 +won't damage anything, just stupid though +if you have a pump I'd only load directly into the chamber diff --git a/k/58041216.txt b/k/58041216.txt index 8517e8c32b9b3a0468825ace4ffd0e01fd0c0b3b..1456a33f83e89afb7f1f9f7fc584370c16a43b08 100644 --- a/k/58041216.txt +++ b/k/58041216.txt @@ -387,10 +387,48 @@ Everyone else after were bigger faggots >>58041216 (OP) unironically deagle brand deagle ---- 58069758 ->>58041502 -why do sand niggers have dark areas around their eyes? -are these thr spots where they start to degenerate into full nigers? --- 58070627 >>58060810 Stop mobbing me, you haider. If you ever think you have it bad, just look up drachenlord the most hated streamer in germany. +--- 58071520 +>>58041216 (OP) +C96, webley, doubleaction 4 incher or longer rebolber, blued semiautomatic with wooden grips , some miniuzi semiauto ....or ... +Pic related +--- 58071538 +>>58041216 (OP) +>Best handgun to fit a metal head aesthetic? +Big purple dildo +--- 58074263 +>>58041216 (OP) + +this picture is so true. we sold out of all of our xl and xxl female shirts at every show, but never our s, m,or l. +--- 58074333 +>>58042487 +Hell yeah brother +--- 58074893 +>>58069154 +The Finngols were cool. +--- 58074910 +>>58047818 +>handguns represent a certain degree of "finesse" metal is not supposed to have, +You don't listen to metal do you? +Go listen to Megadeth, but without the vocals. +The guitar progression is fucking masterful. +--- 58074986 +>>58041332 +I would recommend 1914, kanonenfieber and Minenwerfer for any /k/ metal enthusiasts +--- 58077701 +>>58074893 +based +--- 58077905 +>>58044441 +Columbine was new when it happened. It was all over the news and was a huge shock to the system. Think of it like a groundbreaking movie that everyone then tries to copy. +--- 58077918 +>>58041216 (OP) +Beretta 92 full size nickle plated +--- 58077955 +>>58074986 +this album had no right to be so good +--- 58078637 +>>58077905 +So its The Blair Witch Project of spree killings? diff --git a/k/58043887.txt b/k/58043887.txt index 0db8e2ea36ce91a6b2033a2fc7a2eb52b002877f..8e4e8c5c83d2618ca1c2ff2e883093e86a99282a 100644 --- a/k/58043887.txt +++ b/k/58043887.txt @@ -559,3 +559,160 @@ Yeah, I took my time searching through the self defense cases listed on gunviole >you may not like it but this is peak preformance --- 58070939 assuming ICE vehicles are eventually supplanted by electrics in the future, will people still continue to make dumb car metaphors in a couple decades +--- 58071625 +>>58069690 + +ok boomer +--- 58071650 +>>58062447 +it's literally a bait image, and you retards fall for it ever time +--- 58071668 +>>58057531 +agree if holstered IWB and especially if part of a unit +>>58058144 +safety should work in quarter cock +--- 58072117 +>>58070939 + +CZ is the Tesla of guns +Colt is the Ford of guns +HiPoint is the Nissan Altima of guns + +I can keep going but you get the point +--- 58072620 +>>58043887 (OP) +The concealed carry pistol market has gone full retard over the last 10 years. I've always said I'm fine with people buying and carrying whatever they want, but I'm getting tired of the manufacturers and uneducated buyers pushing this "gotta take every advantage you can" mentality beyond the point of rationality. About thirty years ago, the MK23 was designed as an offensive combat handgun, and it held 12 rounds in a mag. But after the P365xl came out, some people consider anything less than 15 to be a compromise, which is evident in the Glock 43x/Shield Arms situation. The MK23 had a H&K trigger and all that implies, but today you need that lightened trigger kit on your carry gun, and of course that manual safety that was on the MK23 would get you killed in a gunfight. Then we add on compensators, WMLs, optics, and all sorts of other silly shit, some of which didn't even exist in relation to carry guns just 10 years ago. Yet nobody ever died in a DGU due to a lack of having it. + +And as I said, you buy what you want, but I'm pissed that the whole industry runs on this shit now. Especially the "optics ready" meme that has gotten to fucking up guns for people who don't care about optics. The new Beretta Cheetah sacrifices any realistic chance of aftermarket rear sight options just so a minority of buyers can mount an optic. The Ruger Max 9 has iron sights that can't be bought in a set because the front and rear use dovetail patterns from different manufacturers who aren't Ruger, just for front sight cowitness. I bet by 2040, handguns don't even come with irons, just like rifles now. +--- 58072669 +>>58043887 (OP) +>marginal utility +yea +--- 58072693 +>>58050000 +(double) double-aughts, it's so over shotgunbros. +--- 58072746 +>>58069034 +why do people even like 18"? go 20 or 16 IMO, the only reason it was chosen for the SPR was bureaucratic procurement bullshit. +--- 58072927 +>>58070727 +>>you may not like it but this is peak performance +As is this! +--- 58073771 +>>58043952 +Nah, 92ds is a camry +--- 58073928 +>>58044203 +Pretty much this. Hearing anons argue about AR vs AK is hilarious when they'll both never shoot at anyone and if they did it would be at distances and situations where none of that matters. +--- 58074001 +>>58059877 +What do you guys even share now that make you buddies? I had a nigger friend when I was younger but we grew apart because all he wanted to do was drugs and fight people on the street. Sometimes the people you see as friends are just people with zero in common that for one reason or another you ended up hanging out with in your youth. +--- 58074091 +>>58072620 +This is how it works + +>Military needs to use something for their niche and specialized missions +>It bleeds into LEOs +>Civilians try to copy cops and military +>Companies pick up on this and start shilling products +>Nothing sells better than fear so they either imply or flat out say things like "if you don't have this it will get you killed!" +>Retarded civilians who have never even been in a fist fight and have zero experience with violence will eat all this up +>After eating this up they'll start arguing with everyone about needing such item because it makes them feel like a knowledgeable operator and it validates their expensive purchase + +Rinse and repeat. Which is why you have people here unironically shilling for things they'll never use in a deadly encounter. And they're serious about it too lol +--- 58074196 +>>58072620 +>>58074091 +Have you two ever considered that you're now the old men that scream at the clouds? +--- 58074225 +>>58070939 +Chinese electric cars are unironically an actual hazzard. +--- 58074281 +>>58043887 (OP) +Controversial take: the eeeeee helmet was the best thing to ever come to this board +--- 58074402 +>>58068932 +I don't understand why you wouldn't have a 92fs in condition one. +--- 58074442 +>>58074091 +Nah. It's like cars. You don't make shit on the basic car, but you get fat profit by charging for options and accessories. +--- 58074462 +Ancient weapons and hokey religion are no match for good blaster at your side kid +--- 58074507 +>>58043945 +w-what about 300memeout? +--- 58074605 +>>58046460 +Total boomer death +--- 58074835 +>>58074402 +Because its a combo safety/decocker on the 92FS. And not like the HKs where its three position. Its either safety off or safety on and decocked. The exception is the 92X Performance and 92Xi which have 1911 stule frame safeties +--- 58074876 +>>58074462 +My armorer says this is a good blaster +But I don’t speak cat well +--- 58076505 +>>58045407 +Does this sight placement render the backup sights useless? This is like the 3rd time this week I have seen a red dot sight or scope blocking the backup iron sights. Please feel free to call out my retardation though. +--- 58076544 +>>58043887 (OP) +>Controversial takes +>posts the absolute most basic bitch normie take anyone could possibly have +Am I getting trolled +--- 58076590 +>>58045469 +I like the Underwood "EXTREME PENETRATOR" rounds and think they're very viable self defense loads for rounds smaller than 9mm that don't move fast enough to expand reliably +--- 58076938 +>>58074835 +Gotcha, I didn't know that. I thought you were saying to leave it in condition zero and was confused. +--- 58077188 +"I need it to defend muhself!" + +You aren't immune to the 21-foot rule. If someone wants to invade your space in a public location and stab you, they will. If they venture closer than 15 feet nothing you can do with your cowboy LARP sidearm will stop you from bleeding out... so it's useless there. + +Mass-shooting scenario? The insane person (enabled by loose gun laws to start with) is going to be hauling in a rifle with several large magazines and use body armor. If it comes down to it, you're going to get killed by a bigger bullet that penetrates anything shy of cinderblock... so it's useless there. + +"I need it to fend off muh guberment!" + +If things have reached a level where U.S. soldiers are trying to kill you, I think it's safe to say we're in a post-apocalyptic scenario. The government will shut down the water purification plants. You'll drink dirty water and die, or starve, or get crushed by a mob of informed citizens (they don't need guns to swarm you either.) + +Also you're not going to defeat the national guard or militarized police. It's just not happening. They spent 20 years in a guerrilla situation and only held back because of bad press. If it comes down to a civil war, nobody is going to care if a bunch of neo-confederate lunatics are killed. +--- 58077324 +>>58077188 +>bleeding out +>posted a stainless mall ninja knife in his deleted thread as example +>t. never sawed though muscle +You’re retarded: forearm arteries are deep inside the arm and even medical diamond knives and actual war knives struggle to cut though the outer side of the arm. Even inward it’s still too much muscle and veins in the arm aren’t fatal or even quickly debilitating. The idiots stabbing don’t know to go for easier arteries like femoral. + +That means using the off arm to slow an attacker long enough to mag dump is medically likely to leave the assailant with life threatening injuries while the cut muscle and veins aren’t fatal to the defender. + +Also you posted a stainless mall knife as your I can beat any gun thread pic. Likely to come apart when hitting a hard object. t. antique blade collector wt medical background +--- 58077402 +>>58077188 +You did do some good though: this illustrates why the carry piece has to be chambered, if you don’t you need two hands to use which equals death + Will remember to chamber mine now in case a stabber or rabbid dog chomps on my arm +--- 58077561 +>>58074196 +I know that's who I am now, but I didn't expect it to come so soon. In the last 10 years, things have changed so much and I admit that I'm frustrated that products no longer appeal to me at all. Out of all the companies making these micro compact carry guns, would it kill someone to make a DA/SA or DAO hammer fired pistol? That's what I learned on and that's what I prefer, but I still like the idea of carrying something small and light. Also, while I don't have anything against polymer, I hate how it mostly doesn't offer any end user grip customization. You can't change the width, nor anything about it, with different grip panels. We see the market going through cycles of finger grooves vs. no finger grooves where buyers are at the mercy of whatever is currently popular, when in the past, you could just change that with a wraparound grip. So yeah, I might just be screaming at the clouds, but at least I know that things actually used to be better, and those clouds are going to get an earful. +--- 58077679 +>>58077188 + +Nigga I'm just making sure I'm ready for another bank heist gone wrong +--- 58079187 +I think the TEC-9 and similar Intratec guns are good and I am trying to see how feasible it is for me to conceal and/or open carry +--- 58079340 +>>58043887 (OP) +This shouldn't be controversial, but sadly is. Ambidextrous/Left handed features or designs should not exist. +--- 58079433 +>>58044023 +That's what a breaching charge followed by 2-3 grenades is for. +Or just CG the fucking wall with a delay action HE. + +"Doorkicking" is for SWAT. +--- 58079596 +>>58044084 + +Based +--- 58080980 +>>58043887 (OP) +The Fedorov Avtomat and the M2 Carbine are both assault rifles. diff --git a/k/58044235.txt b/k/58044235.txt index d4d88056463141207959ec3e3538949370f7daec..910001f0fe74acdcc0410286a6978fe42746f7b3 100644 --- a/k/58044235.txt +++ b/k/58044235.txt @@ -254,3 +254,88 @@ I hate Boomers so much --- 58069065 >>58066380 Just send the MO, if it's not correct you'll get it back. Also leave bad feedback for poor communication +--- 58071422 +>>58046555 +>Retail. +This is secondary market. There is no retail. +--- 58071436 +I'm about to over pay for a SKS, but very willing to do so for this specific variant. Then I can finally stop collecting SKSes. Wish me luck bros. +--- 58071756 +>>58071436 +East German or Vietnamese SKS? +--- 58072008 +>>58071756 +Albanian. It'll be the most common variant of my hard to finds. + +I'm not even going to try for an East German, North Korean or Vietnamese SKS. I got better things for my autism and wallet to focus on. +--- 58072073 +>>58069065 +It's ogre. All he does is wait a year and cash it when the feds quit giving a shit. +--- 58072093 +>>58072073 +Yeah, that's called mail fraud. It's a felony. +--- 58072115 +>>58072093 +I don't recall that stopping anyone before. Especially when der boomer ships an empty box to anon and when the feds come knocking, claim anon got the rifle and clearly he's just hiding it. They drop the investigation due to too much plausible deniability in play. In hindsight, simply waiting to cash is a terrible idea. +--- 58072159 +>>58072115 +how long has he not been responding? Its literally his job to communicate back to you according to gunbroker so everything is on him. If he doesn't respond then he will get yelled at by gunbroker maybe even banned if he is a repeat faggot and your obligation to the auction will be waived +--- 58072357 +>>58072159 +He finally got back to me last night. The auction ended Monday morning. +--- 58073785 +Why are we still here? Just to suffer? +--- 58074193 +>>58045959 +its not a gun if you dont shoot it +--- 58074698 +>>58072357 +>He finally got back to me last night. The auction ended Monday morning. +You have to be patient with Boomers; they grew up in a foreign country where things were done differently. +--- 58075648 +>>58072008 +I now own the lowest quality SKS variant manufactured and down $1300 +--- 58075692 +>>58075648 +https://youtu.be/0JcHchkGcCE [Embed] +--- 58076885 +>have my eye on really nice old revolver +>can’t buy because 20 y/o +It’s still gonna be there in november right bros? +--- 58076903 +>>58076885 +Drag a parent along to buy it as gift for ya if ya have that option for parent and state and can legally own firearms. +--- 58076951 +>>58076903 +Yeah I considered that, but they’re full on grabbers. I only have my mosin because I keep the bolt hidden. I’ll just pray. +--- 58077184 +>>58076951 +If it truly is something you will really be upset about if you miss out on. find a friend or other of age relative you trust, front the money to them so they can purchase it themselves and just have them hang on to it till you are of age later this year. have them legally transfer over the gun to you once you can own it. Maybe throw a little cash at them or something for their trouble. +--- 58077307 +>>58047020 +Ever tried GP90 in the 57? +--- 58079189 +>>58077184 +Well how rare are enfield no2s? That’s what really would make up my mind +--- 58079214 +>>58075648 +This is by far the worst quality, fit, and finish SKS I own. It's also the most expensive and most common of the "rares." But I can finally stop collecting SKSes. Paid the forgotten weapons video tax for it though. +--- 58079323 +>>58079189 +An original spur hammer No2 is fairly uncommon. a spurless No2Mk1 / No2Mk1* are very common in the US. +--- 58079353 +>>58079323 +>very common +Oh shit nice, in that case I'll probably just hold off, maybe get something better post summer work. +--- 58079758 +>>58076885 +Most likely it'll be gone, but don't worry too much about it. You've got a long life ahead to collect. You'll see another again if you remain persistent. +--- 58079876 +>>58079758 +Howdy pardner. +--- 58080371 +>>58079876 +Hello there. +--- 58080896 +>>58077307 +Never thought of it, why? diff --git a/k/58044675.txt b/k/58044675.txt index da4a2af69aadf5e8e9510d217222470559213f63..d88172ffe34442a60b4a1b1c0fa975931040d6f0 100644 --- a/k/58044675.txt +++ b/k/58044675.txt @@ -377,3 +377,131 @@ Funny how whenever a board isn't a total /pol/ echochamber you see posts crying PK, what is "sledgehammer chicken" --- 58070594 Aho please restock your jap masterpiece patches +--- 58071224 +>>58064422 +>>58065592 +>>58066518 +>>58071204 +>>58070823 +Jaaannieeess +--- 58072306 +>>58070823 +NGL i kinda want this one for the meemz +--- 58072344 +>>58072306 +Not gonna lie, you're a legitimate prancing lala homo faggot. +--- 58072512 +58070127 +you are just the other side of the same coin clown +--- 58072659 +>>58066012 +I might, I think 2hu did some like the eyes too +not sure if they're out yet tho + +>>58070594 +new ones and some older ones will come back soon +--- 58072862 +>>58072344 +you're most likely not wrong, fren. +Doesn't change my opinion tho. I hope you have a good rest of your day my dude. +--- 58073548 +>>58052715 +This is gold. Is there a source for this patch? +--- 58073630 +>>58070127 +sorry, spamming the exact same bait images in every single patch thread for over a year and actually being outed as a purposeful derailing redditard isn't "a total /pol/ echochamber" + +we want good patches not bull shit +--- 58073700 +>>58070127 +>NOOOOoooo please let me spam my fash-bashing star wars funko pop here & queer petches! Please let me mock you and call you all nazis this isn't how democracy works NOOOOOOOOOoooo +--- 58073708 +>>58073700 +Good thing 4chan isn't a democracy - it's Janarchistic. +TY to the brave jannies for cleaning up the sbam. +--- 58073714 +I'll post my most-recent collection pic again. I should have a couple more show up at my door in a few days. +--- 58073880 +I wore this one all the time. John Paul Jones is an interesting guy. +--- 58075926 +>>58073548 +I'm the source and I have exactly two left. +--- 58075987 +>>58075926 +how many megumilfs lactating have you sold? +--- 58076131 +>>58075926 +Do you only order like 20 wtf +--- 58076145 +If you have an American flag patch, or a jumbo size American flag patch, and you look like a paramilitary, there are some homos at the FBI that think you are a potential turrist. Unless you are in the service right now, I'd only don these on your gear if you are in a situation where you would be spotted and gotted anyways for being detected by an opposing force, like at night time with NVGs. + +At night, a lot of people cannot even see you, and if they see you walking around decked out with NVGs and armor/rigs/patches and your AR/AK/whatever they are gonna know what's up. Because the deer don't shoot back brother, at most you could excuse a chest rig for hunting, but you'd have to explain the body armor. If you are walking around in paramilitary gear in broad daylight as a civilian, it's very obvious. I've seen civilians doing that peacefully to protect their communities from riots spilling out, which would at least be appropriate. + +So your average American in the suburbs with some plate armor and chest rigs and all that cool stuff could at least have a reason to own it as preparation, and put patches on it. +--- 58076159 +>>58073880 +>John Paul Jones +A Patriot that formed and commanded our navy +--- 58076231 +>>58076145 +Is this one of those AI comments I've heard so much about? +--- 58076764 +>>58075987 +Like 140 + +>>58076131 +Generally 100 at a time. +--- 58076779 +>>58076764 +noice, now do a lolibaba giving birth while lactating and orgasming at the same time +--- 58077032 +>>58076779 +I think Aho would be able to pull that one off way better than I can +--- 58077037 +>>58077032 +ok... +--- 58077171 +Looking for a patch that just says "skill issue". Anyone here make one? +--- 58078501 +>>58052715 +You weren't able to see his eyes in the original image iirc +--- 58078934 +What patch panels do you all recommend? I'm hesitant about defaulting to something from Amazon. +--- 58079128 +>>58078934 +felt square nugga +--- 58079129 +>>58078934 +Carpet/rug +--- 58079225 +>>58072659 +Bring anything back from your trip for the store? +--- 58079424 +>>58078934 +Go buy a yard of black felt, glue it to some foam core board, and tack it to the wall. Shit costs like $8 +--- 58079710 +>>58079424 +Looks like shit though +--- 58079734 +>>58073880 +Well he was a fighting man +--- 58080080 +>>58069663 +>lmao anon, he literally told me himself to remind him in thread since he'd forget but thanks for making my restock requests for me +Like no one doesn't know your dumb back story. Seems you lack self awareness. +--- 58080121 +I designed a patch and logo that's now the official design for a command. I obviously can't post it without doxxing myself, but I at least know the process for how it's done. AMA. And no, there were no memes on it unfortunately. My XO was based, but that meant he'd notice anything spicy. +--- 58080168 +>>58080121 +--- 58080521 +>>58078934 +Unironically, pic related. I got the medium size, and it works great. +--- 58080633 +>>58078934 +alright here me out, get some velcro loop dots and stick them to your wall and then put patches on them. sometimes the dots fall off so you'll probably want to nail each dot to the wall just to be safe + +>>58079225 +yeah I got some stuff but mostly some candy that fuggin baggage handlers all smashed +--- 58080822 +>>58080080 +I just don't get why it infuriates you, I'm on your side just wanting based patches to be restocked or stocked in general; who cares about the exact method diff --git a/k/58047541.txt b/k/58047541.txt index 99eef55eabd8eca956d5252c3fa6eb2ad4acbd44..e3f4d3f1e2368e35c171c60bd5c692d8f10c9d92 100644 --- a/k/58047541.txt +++ b/k/58047541.txt @@ -628,3 +628,280 @@ My brother in Christ, please stop such unholy behavior >strike chicken >lpvo Anon I… +--- 58072548 +bump +--- 58073035 +>>58070217 +NTA but M77's are like 2-6 MOA guns depending the ammo and how hot the barrel is. I wouldn't bother with anything more than 4x. +--- 58073174 +>>58070086 +thanks boss. Global military gunsmithing in Michigan did it. The guy is good +--- 58073528 +what are the options for snagging an m76 these days? who builds kits for them? +--- 58073631 +>>58063450 +Bulgarian slab-side. I'll post a pic when they arrive... I don't think they're Circle10. +--- 58073659 +>>58069455 +I have a PA GLX 4-16x50 HUD DMR on my Saiga 308. The 2-10x44 or 3-16x44 might be more what your looking for, depending on how far you want to reach out. Theyre all within an ounce or two of each other so i went for the larger objective. GLX series are awesome quality and have great reticles. +--- 58073683 +For /AKG/ +If I hypothetically fucked up and bought a PSAK for my first AK and want to redeem myself... would building an AK from a parts kit be the way to go? +--- 58073773 +>>58073683 +Parts kits are retarded. You end spending $2-3k + 6 months to have something made that, at the end of the day, is probably more American than it is an import (receiver, barrel most notably). + +Just get a $650 RH-10 and you will be redeemed. +--- 58073835 +>>58066614 +>not even a chin weld +Why do people enjoy this +--- 58073873 +>>58073835 +Mine shoots accurately without a cheek weld +--- 58073899 +>>58073873 +But how is your hit factor doing, anon? +--- 58073964 +>>58073683 +PSAK's get dunked on all the time and deservedly so, but lets be real here the are fine for most people. +Like the other anon said, parts kit builds are expensive and take a long time. The exception to this would be if you did builds yourself but even then still very expensive due to tools. +--- 58074037 +>>58073964 +I'm thinking I'll just run with it and build it out as I intend to then get some other AKM platform to move all the stuff to when it fails. No import isn't going to be mostly US parts by the time I'm done making it range ready. + +Wish Zenitco RDS were available in the US. Sadge. +--- 58074222 +>>58073528 +Building a kit (most builders should be able to do it), century made one, mitchel import, and AWO built ones +--- 58074346 +I'm looking for a belt-mounted mag pouch, is the esstac midlength a good fit or should I look elsewhere? +--- 58074522 +>>58073899 +Faster successful followup shots than the dudes running ARs +--- 58074637 +>>58074346 +I'll let you know tomorrow as I already ordered one +--- 58075111 +>>58074637 +Thanks! +--- 58075443 +>>58074346 +>03:19 No.58074346 +G-code +--- 58075751 +>>58057151 +Was gonna deban a mak like this myself until I was told the front sight journal needs to be cut back. How true is this? I thought the usa made spiker sights accomated no spiker barrels +--- 58075807 +>>58068917 +>that sling +You enjoy supporting businesses that are pro-Israel? +--- 58076246 +>>58075807 +Everything is pro-Jizzrael. +--- 58076323 +I just like AKs +--- 58076516 +My dearie arrived in the mail today, and holy shit does it have the same thickness to it as the tango down AK grip. I'd love to slap this onto my kit builds, but I'd rather not anger their machine spirits. +--- 58076543 +>>58076246 +you'd think that wouldn't you +--- 58076584 +My autism knows no bounds. +--- 58076605 +>>58076584 +Nice pseudotabuk DMR you got. +--- 58076681 +>>58076605 +Thank you anon +--- 58076718 +And yes, I am that anon. My love quest is finally over, time to remake that AK63F I chimped out on last year and beg its machine spirits for forgiveness. +--- 58076772 +>>58076584 +Nicely done you gorilla. What did you use for a stock blank? +--- 58076792 +>>58075807 +i don't read autistic internet gossip about who does what or supports what so you're gonna have to explain what you're talking about +--- 58076987 +>>58075751 +I did use one of the PolyTechUSA spiker FSBs, and I think it's honestly a luck of the draw, as I've also heard they don't have the best QC and sometimes the journals don't line up. Thankfully, I didn't have that problem and my builder was able to press it on just fine. Also make sure to cold blue the FSB to match the finish of the rifle, as it's also completely off. I forgot to ask my builder about that but he was a bro and did it for free bc it bugged him that it didn't match lol. +--- 58077137 +Exactly what I've been looking for. +--- 58077259 +>>58076718 +>>58077137 +at this point I'm happy for you +--- 58077266 +>>58023854 → +The ergonomics on this grip aren't far detached from other chonky grips like the M76 fat grip. + +>>58077259 +I'd recommend nabbing one for yourself and trying it, it's absolutely comfy. +--- 58077410 +>>58077266 +Different anon here, how is it compared to the US Palm or Tango Down grips? I'm looking into something for a more "tacticool" setup and I'm looking into those two aforementioned grips. +--- 58077513 +>>58076772 +Not sure honestly had my buddy make it +--- 58077740 +>>58077410 +Same hand-filling organic ergonomics with a sexier profile. Feels rock solid and comfortable as all hell, complete with the taper near the top, though it lacks any storage compartment. Sells for $10 a pop, not counting shipping. +--- 58077759 +>>58077740 +Definitely worth considering then, thanks anon +--- 58077894 +>>58077759 +The FAL grip is a shortstack compared to the Tango Down/US Palm grip, so if you really want a thicc, meaty grip for cheap, cop one on gunjoker. +--- 58078274 +>>58047541 (OP) +Maadi’s and Russian akm kits ! +Maadi’s and Russian akm kits ! This is not a drill ! + +https://atlanticfirearms.com/maadi-fixed-stock-ak-parts-kit + +https://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/ak47-ak74-akm-parts-kits-s/2232.htm +--- 58078523 +the fuckin SAIGA spammers are hilarious. the only reason people think theyre worth the money is because somebody told them theyre worth the money so they went and bought one, and then to justify their purchase they go tell 4chan about how the SAIGA is the best rifle and such a GREAT DEAL at EIGHTEEN HUNDREDS DOLLARS FOR AN UNCONVERTED SPORTER! So what if its just a basic bitch SPORTER with mediocre build quality and CAST components, its RUSSIAN! KC IS IZHMASH TOO SO ITS LIKE THE EXACT SAME THING! Just admit that you got into the AK game too late and that youre paying $1400 more than you should be paying for literally no reason, REDDIT is jewing you but you dont want to admit it because you dont want to see like a retard for paying over $400 for a featureless rifle +--- 58078535 +Beryl's in stock at Atlantic. +--- 58078767 +>>58078535 +And they are gona +--- 58078883 +>>58057077 +QRD? +--- 58078935 +>>58078883 +Somebody who had post history on weed growing/smoking forums or some shit was also posting his aks. Reddit mod reports him to the FFA for lying on 4473 as being addigted to weed. That's the gist of it anyways. Not sure if anything came of it. +--- 58078966 +>>58078935 +Guy had a post history of wild exaggerations and lying, then deleted his account +--- 58079010 +>>58078966 +IIRC he claimed to be a Fallujah vet and all this other wild shit. Its doubtful that he even got reported because he faked a bunch of douments but the reddit mods didnt do anything to help when they shit their pants and starting banning everyone talking about it. Surprise, redditors are retarded especially mods +--- 58079044 +>>58078523 +This pretty much. I bought mine for 300€ a few years ago, europoor of course so it didn't need any conversion. Saiga's are ok but crude rifles. The fit and finish really isn't anything to write home about. I zenitcoe'd mine way before the war when prices were way lower. I would never ever spend 1800$ on a sporter saiga... that's just insane... +--- 58079057 +with the state of current geopolitics, what will the AK community do about ammunition(7.62, 5.45)? There's no way it'll ever be $0.25/rnd for barnaul ever again and it hurts +--- 58079109 +>>58079057 +Shit I'd be happy with fuckin gas prices dropping below 3 fucking dollars. We're back up to $4.30 a gallon here and I think people are starting to accept it as "the new normal." +I'm so sick of clown world bros. +--- 58079246 +>>58078535 +They also have 7.62x39 made by Bishkek Stamping Plant in Kyrgyzstan in stock. That plant makes 5.45 so why hasn’t anybody imported it yet? +--- 58079317 +>>58078523 +i got my saiga 12 for $400 in 2017 +--- 58079499 +>>58079246 +Soon™ +Honestly though, probably soon. There's a bunch of paperwork and bureaucracy that goes into arms imports. Just 2 more weeks amirite? +--- 58079552 +>>58078935 +why did they report him to the Future Farmers of America +--- 58079627 +>>58079552 +He means it was a free for all, kids these days call them "battle royale" +--- 58079679 +Another day, another batch of 5.45 gear being dumped on AK Files. Tick tock! +--- 58079693 +Planning to order Beryl rifle from Arms of America. Why is it giving me the option of different barrel threads and what could I do with them? +--- 58079706 +>>58079693 +And yes, I know they aren't in stock (YET) +--- 58079715 +>>58078935 +Regardless if it’s true or not, that’s a faggoty thing for the leddit mod to do. +--- 58079746 +>>58075111 +turns out i got it today +Retention is pretty good, although parallel (to the body) motion is pretty obvious (probably due to the extra space needed for the front/rear lugs). so the mag will rock back and forth about 1/2 inch (but not side to side). +i would be confident with quick movement and stance transitions, any ninja rolling and i'm sure they will fall out +(m4 mag, palm-30 (thickest), kci tanker 20, bulg polymer-30, bulg steel-30) +>>58075443 Honestly might pick up a pair of these to compare +--- 58079748 +>>58079679 +Gib sub-$400 tins of 7N6 pls +--- 58079878 +>>58079715 +druggies deserve public executions the mod was based +--- 58079886 +Getting my weekend range time in a day early tmrw. Gonna set up like 50 clay pigeons on the berm and mag dump into em. Don't forget boys. +--- 58079960 +>>58079886 +Nice. Have a good time. My range is covered with those. Many of them are unbroken so I always pick up as many as I can carry when walking back from setting up targets and take them home for my backyard plinking range. My boys like to smash them against rocks and logs. +--- 58080106 +Did these faggots raise the price for beryls again? +--- 58080122 +>>58080106 +Quit your kvetching and pay up, goyim. +--- 58080214 +Greetings Komrades! + +I was wondering about 922r shit. +with recent court rulings, namely the common use test that is the new standard, Ak type rifles are clearly in common use. That alone makes them legal to own as bearable arms. Would that same thing also allow for the eventual nullification of 922R? since a non 922R AK type gun would be illegal, and the common use test dictates that AK type rifles are legal, would that extend to mean that non 922R weapons would be de facto legal? + +Not sure if there is a better thread to ask in but this was a place to start. +--- 58080295 +>>58080214 +922r is fake and gay +--- 58080367 +>>58079746 +Hmmm thanks for the write-up. I might investigate the others a bit more and see how their retention looks. +--- 58080856 +>>58080214 +Ask God and it shall be nullified +--- 58080864 +>>58080214 +>922r +Who gives a fuck? First of all it is for importers. Even if it weren't, I still wouldn't care about that goofy shit. If some Fed faggot is looking that closely at my rifle, taking it apart to look for little "USA" stamps then I'm already extremely fucked for whatever else it is that I did to get to that point or I'm dead. Still, not going to happen because only hyper compliant spergs on the internet know or care about 922r. +--- 58081025 +Aah shit, this FAL grip's a bit short for the standard AK screw. Unsure if the standard length is 4.5", maybe a 4" might work, or perhaps a couple washers inside might help? +--- 58081099 +>>58081025 +Just try it out, don't go by that side by side comparison without actually trying the screw. It could be the more intense angle of the FAL grip that makes it work +--- 58081133 +>>58047541 (OP) +>>58055767 +>>58057077 +>>58068687 +>>58077266 +>>58078935 +>>58078966 +>>58079010 +>>58080214 +reddit general +--- 58081171 +>>58081133 +The only reason we know about this is because that faggot mod turned up here after he got chased out +--- 58081247 +>>58081099 +Oh no, I've actually tried it on a blank receiver and the grip screw went all the way through without securing it properly. +--- 58081253 +>>58081204 +weird, wonder why it's labeled an AK grip then when you bought it +--- 58081264 +>>58081253 +It's clearly meant for AKs, though it might need a shorter grip screw or spacer to properly fit. +--- 58081380 +>>58054893 +Kneel. +--- 58081391 +>>58079044 +>>58079317 +Yes, we know every single anon who owns a saiga got them at the exact right time and definitely didn't overpay for it. Only Morons on reddit would ever do that. +Stop trying to gain acceptance from a pasta and just know that no matter what you paid or when you did it, no one cares and no one will believe you +>t. Proud saigatranny owner +--- 58081392 +>>58081264 +As seen in >>58076718, that grip screw doesn't resemble a normal AK grip screw. I'll visit home depot and see if they have any just like it. +--- 58081503 +>>58081391 +Nice photo +--- 58081754 +Does anybody know where to get a full auto jig for milled receivers? I accidentally bought a jig for stamped receivers, and I can't find any jigs for milled receivers online. I guess it's more popular to buy 80% stamped AK receivers and drill them out. +--- 58081829 +>>58081754 +Alternatively, if anybody knows the exact placement of the holes, then I could just take some measurements and centerpunch the approximate place the holes belong in. diff --git a/k/58048363.txt b/k/58048363.txt index c4133b28ebbadfbdbe66784296f42470c8f2a419..958c36d896a1223a7722558d0ec99a676f346f2d 100644 --- a/k/58048363.txt +++ b/k/58048363.txt @@ -317,3 +317,70 @@ I love Crazy Hassan's Firearms Emporium and Camel Rental --- 58069209 >>58054306 that's what I'm saying +--- 58071920 +>>58048531 +2 goats +--- 58071947 +>>58048565 +Anybody answering anything but the Remington is an idiot +--- 58072487 +>>58071947 +This, but the garand +--- 58072554 +>>58063700 +roll for the 2/9 chance to get something not soviet +--- 58073122 +>>58050845 +>What do you mean overchar *ACK* +--- 58073617 +>>58069135 +>human ears +>also cat ears +Dafuq? +--- 58074742 +>>58073617 +One set is for high frequency sounds the other for low. Also very good triangulation. +--- 58074753 +>>58048363 (OP) +>Bombs, rope, or lamp oil? +--- 58076804 +>>58048565 +Almost went for the M-16 so I can have a helicopter. Problem is I still have to pay for fuel, maintenance, and insurance. Lots of insurance. Go for the Garand to help out taking care of the house and save money. +--- 58076833 +>>58048363 (OP) +I need another one of these like in the one in the picture. +What happened to the last one you ask? +I wouldn't worry about it. +--- 58077257 +>>58063086 +>what kind of camel has no humps, no hooves and drinks no water? +--- 58077370 +>>58076833 +Did you disassemble your gun again and didn't get it back together? +--- 58077469 +>>58048531 +thats a psl +--- 58080149 +>>58073122 +>It's me Gordon, Barney from *ACK* Mesa +>Hey sorry for the scare, I had to put on a show for the mods +>I've been working undercover for with the jannies. I can't take too long, I'm way behind on my unpaid labor quota +--- 58080370 +>>58048363 (OP) +*flashes BSAA badge* +0 backup +1 dead team +1 big knife +1 wonder nine +2 magazines +--- 58081469 +>>58080370 +kek +--- 58081569 +>>58073617 +--- 58081589 +>>58048363 (OP) +72 of your finest virgins please, and also AKs-74u +--- 58081669 +>>58048565 +1911 giving you 10+ Charisma so that life turns out like a Fallout game where you crush every interaction is mint. You can even end up like the picrel guy who used his high charisma stat to land the lab gig. diff --git a/k/58049621.txt b/k/58049621.txt index d14773d7bdd1abd68753e275e9fdf0d5a2d77d1e..83ef200f329f5695f7cef5fcf340c11936f7e643 100644 --- a/k/58049621.txt +++ b/k/58049621.txt @@ -672,3 +672,136 @@ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEP39EovJ0k [Embed] >>58066237 >I'd expect the gas tube to clog up really NTA but I wonder if running a smokeless round through the gun every mag or so would clear it out. That's what people do with the .22 conversions for ARs. Or so I hear. +--- 58071766 +>>58070516 +Hmmmm, it looks like BP lube will be necessary. I have some 405 grain gas checked lead projectiles that have lube grooves I could fill, but those particular ones may foul the gas port with lead. +--- 58072042 +>>58059718 +Because the bullets are not ripe, the manufacturer harvested them too early... +--- 58072164 +>>58071766 +What is blackpowder lube, anyway? It seems like I read that they use a mixture of beeswax and lard on cast lead bullets to be loaded in cartridges with black powder. +--- 58072177 +>>58072164 +I use a mix of tallow, beeswax, and a bit of vegetable oil. About 4:4:1. It mixes with the BP fouling and stops it from hardening. Makes cleaning hilariously easy in most cases. +--- 58072242 +>>58072177 +Ah, okay. I've read that you can make your own homemade bullet lube for smokeless powder cartridges by mixing beeswax and white synthetic lithium grease 50-50 by weight and melting it in a double boiler. You probably won't want to use the pan to cook food afterwards. +--- 58072395 +I work at a gun shop. I was showing a gun to a guy. His buddy told him to "ghost the trigger." What does this mean? As far as I can tell, he was saying to dry fire it in kind of operator/cringe way. +--- 58072420 +>>58072395 +It means that the trigger called him but he wouldn't pick up or answer the voicemail. +--- 58074249 +>>58072420 +Sad, many such cases. +>>58072395 +I think that's what he was talking about, but I've heard people use all manner of obscure, inaccurate or made up terminology at gun stores. +>>58068987 +Find a source for really inexpensive guns that have issues. Gun stores that deal in used firearms for instance frequently receive a whole bunch at a time from an estate and a few aren't sellable, so they like to know people who tinker and dump the guns they don't want to deal with on them for cheap. +>>58068907 +It would likely penetrate deep enough into your vitals to be imminently life threatening, you'd likely go into shock and die if not treated quickly. +>>58067749 +Between the two, the cheap shit one. RIA is ok for the money, Kimber is not. Like the other Anon said if you are willing to spend Kimber money spend less than that on a Springfield which will be better. Their 1911s are genuinely pretty solid all round. +--- 58074292 +I want to order some gloves from Mechanix and for Palm width i'm medium, but finger length small, which size should i take? +--- 58074567 +>>58074292 +Go try them on at a store first +--- 58075051 +Does anybody else ever feel unsure of how honestly good/bad they shoot? I mostly shoot my subcompact and try to push out either range or speed from draw. I think I do pretty alright, and looking at average pistol shooters IRL around me I do much better than most. But online any target I post gets a barrage of people acting like it’s unsavable garbage tier shooting. But I rarely see people who give advice posting their targets, or it’s people with ultra full size competition guns, rarely people posting pics of carry gun targets. Maybe I suck, maybe I’m mid, I am just kind of mindfucked and wonder if others ever get that feel? +--- 58075077 +>>58050300 +>>58050440 +bait +--- 58075090 +>>58075051 +Ignore people online. +--- 58075414 +>>58069479 +Not that guy but, power bars are good if they're calorie dense, some aren't. Inline filters with squeeze pouches pack down smaller but hey, use what you got. I would add one pair of good stout socks. It adds very little weight, helps muffle any noise gear makes bouncing around and you can never, and I mean NEVER, have enough clean socks. +--- 58076592 +Anybody experimented with brown/coyote dyed for UCP? My one experiment turned out way way too dark. +--- 58076630 +Ages ago someone posted some cool videos of a thing called "practical rifle" from 1980s England, does anyone have it? +--- 58076771 +Would you consider an Opinel No. 6 a "common pocket knife"? Pic related. +Question background: I would like to conceal carry a knife and in Florida state law any common pocket knife under 4 inches can be concealed carry; however, "common pocket knife" actually means something that won't spook a cop or a jury. +--- 58076784 +>>58076630 +I dont have it on my phone but just Google "Practical Scrap Metal Small Arms". I've only seen volume 3 in the wild but it has sten blueprints, shitty semi auto pistols, a few shotguns, and several machine pistols +--- 58076788 +>>58076784 +No it was a video of british practical shooting techniques, not how to build machine guns in your garage etc. +--- 58076818 +>>58076771 +Yeah it's fine, if it's an older model you'll want to notch the ring for a blade lock and do something about a pocket clip. +--- 58076912 +>>58076771 +I just carry a RAT. +--- 58077225 +>>58076771 +>Opinel No. 6 +Yes, I'd say that's a "common pocket knife". I'm sure that is legal speak to exclude shit like switchblades, balisongs/butterfly knives, gravity knives, etc. But there's certainly no bad optics for an opinel, that's about as old school as it gets. +--- 58077976 +>>58076788 +>british practical shooting techniques +Well thats like taking advice from a vegan on how to cook a good steak +--- 58078553 +>>58077976 +Don't be a faggot and just find a good video. +--- 58078647 +>>58075051 +What's an "average pistol shooter?" Every time I go to a public range I am astounded and mindboggled by the level of rampant herp derpery I see from people who have guns in their hands. I see people talking on a cell phone while shooting one-handed. I saw a guy blasting away with a pistol in each hand, not getting on a two by four foot B27 silhouette at fifteen feet more than a third of the time. At ranges that rent guns, I see groups of people sharing the Deagle Brand Deagle "fiddy," and a brain cell, all the time. I see jaw-dropping idiotic behavior with guns, often from guys who say they're "veterans" when politely asked what the actual fuck they're doing. Are they "average?" They're the tiny fraction of 1% who chose to go to the range instead of buying the gun, loading it (or not), putting it in the sock drawer, and leaving it there until it's found and sold at the estate sale forty years later. And they may be neck and neck with the average cop for weapon skills. On the other hand, if I were to join the nearest indoor range's Wednesday night smallbore bullseye league, I already know I'd finish dead last, by a long, long way, +--- 58078851 +>>58078647 +I suppose that's what makes me so unsure, I don't know what average shooting looks like. Last time I posted a target, it was a group about 8 inchs inside of a printer paper sheet target at 15 yards, using my actual carry subcompact, firing begining from draw without pause and then steady pace of shots. I thought pretty good myself, but lot of comments were making me think I was dong so badly to restart my entire technique from scratch, but then again a lot of comments didn't seem to realize 15 yards and 15 feet are different. I dunno. Would be nice if I could figure out some kind of acceptable metric. Internally, stuff like this eats at me +--- 58078989 +>>58078851 +That'd be good enough to pass the Army pistol qual test, thirty for thirty, no misses, no do-overs, no alibis, and get "Expert" on the first try. Of course, pistol training and the associated standards in the Big Army have been a joke for a very, very long time. +--- 58079661 +>>58078553 +--- 58079721 +>>58075414 +Trust me, I'm well aware of the benefits of having socks handy. I have a Sawyer squeeze but I just trust a pump a bit more. +--- 58080148 +>>58068971 +It'd be cruel and unusual to kill someone with sprinkles of #9 birdshot out of a rifled barrel. Those loads can't even kill squirrels up close but the #4 ones are slightly better. I looked at them cause maybe there's a use case for hunting squirrels or something up close but pretty expensive need to look into people that handload em. + + +>>58078851 +I think I had that same problem. Assumed I might as well put my target out to the 25yd fence barely getting on paper with a compact running cheapo ammo and then comparing the results to people's rifle groups with optics. +--- 58081163 +>>58049621 (OP) +I've started getting pretty heavy pain in my trigger finger on my right hand, how can I tell between a potential sprain vs arthritic pain? It starts at the knuckle of the finger and goes up to the tip of the finger when I move my finger around, or do a trigger pull motion. Whilst it's not life ending, it's distracting enough to impact my day to day, it seems to have randomly started on either Tuesday or Wednesday. Anyone else had to deal with anything similar? +--- 58081228 +>>58081163 +I had similar pain, turned out my pecs were tight and were compressing nerves. Physical therapist showed me how to do a Corner Pectoral Stretch and it fixed my pain and added 15% to my grip strength immediately. It’s kinda like how you can get lower back pain from your hamstrings being tight. +--- 58081252 +>>58081228 +Huh, I'll look into that thanks Anon, also starting to realise /fit/ may have been the place to ask, just as I've been doing a bit of dry fire in the home and shooting a lot I thought it might be more related to that as it's only effecting my trigger finger. +--- 58081308 +>>58049621 (OP) +I took a break for like two years, why is the catalogue all military and politics instead of firearms threads? This shit is like /pol/ bit even gayer somehow. +--- 58081316 +>>58081308 +Wait until you see what happened to /tv/, apparently there was a massive ban wave on /pol/ which would explain a lot. +--- 58081358 +>>58066500 +Nah, when you live in a state that limits your mag capacity, .45 is great. I can only legally carry a 10 round magazine anyway so .45acp 10mm, and .357 are all nice to keep in mind. +--- 58081370 +>>58081316 +Wow that's incredibly gay, thanks for the update. +--- 58081405 +How does .308 compare to .300 blk in terms of subsonics? Seems even more versatile at the cost of usual .308 downsides. + +Just been thinking about it in something like a suppressed Tavor 7 with an optic and red dot setup, maybe one of them idf grip and bipod combos, would be a pretty do it all gun. Whole setup would be about $4k and 13 pounds loaded which isn't great but I've been eyeing it for when I have money again. +--- 58081765 +>>58063551 +My best guess is polish PM-63 Rak +--- 58081824 +>>58067273 +?? They didn't burn the boats, they dismantled them and transported them inland to attack Tenochtitlan +--- 58081961 +>>58067287 +Since the 80s at least, maybe even sooner. Started with sharpieing your name there, by the mid 1990s there already were narrow embroidered name tapes in the system intended for goretex parkas (worn on the left arm pocket) and helmet bands. diff --git a/k/58051478.txt b/k/58051478.txt index 4acebaa32559da9ef65dceaeeccb48c9b0fbbc6f..46e978ad5d4490e6e7c1103f8b4bb14936c83749 100644 --- a/k/58051478.txt +++ b/k/58051478.txt @@ -267,3 +267,219 @@ Same bro. I took care of some cattle while the dickhead owner was in hospital an --- 58070190 >>58051687 Nice beaver +--- 58072019 +>>58051478 (OP) +Idk. I was on fireguard one time and heard a rustling behind a dumpster. Im tired as hell and its like 2AM. I go to check it out and this hilariously fat groundhog popped out of the side of said dumpster and startled me into screaming "what the FUCK ARE YOU DOING HERE MOTHERFUCKER!!!" +This guy was galloping across post like a walrus at mach 3. Was kinda funny in hindsight. +--- 58072130 +>>58067882 +It's a Russians spy, kill it. Stuff a grenade up it's anus, rape it hard, pull pin, run. + +Feel better? +--- 58072339 +>>58058414 +Polish reinforcments, nice +--- 58072415 +>>58051478 (OP) +Should have just shot it +--- 58072431 +>>58059769 +>hated his soldiers +When Stillwell visited Merrill's Marauders, their officers went round and collected up all the ammo because they were worried one of them would shoot him. +When the chindits came out of the jungle, rather than order them back to the rear to resupply, reorganise etc. he gave orders that the survivors should guard a anti-aircraft battery thousands of miles from where any japanese troops were out of sheer spite. Eventually the commander of the battery went to Stillwell to beg that the chindits be sent to the rear to get some rest. +I don't get why Americans now love him so much, he was just a giant asshole as far as I can tell. +--- 58072496 +>>58059769 +>Montebatten + +He was also a hardcore simp for Grand Duchess Maria, one of the murdered Romanov daughters. Kept a framed photo of her by his bedside right up until the IRA blew him up. +--- 58073034 +>>58058311 +Bro trust me I work in wildlife rehab, you wouldn't want a beaver to bite you. They often kill each other over territory so taking down a human is a bit of a stretch, yeah, but still it is possible +--- 58073145 +>>58069687 +>His son was an actual retard tho and im glad i ate him + +Owner's son? +--- 58073155 +>>58072019 +Groundhogs eat my garden and my area is too cucked to allow me to shoot them. +--- 58073181 +>>58051687 +Bro just wants to inspect the engineering works usage as waterways once the war has moved on. +--- 58073199 +The Viet Cong used spiders and snakes to guard and trap their tunnels. + +Nature can work in your favor, and provides resources for free. + +But that is guerilla warfare, not the same as conventional war. + +There is some overlap, special forces uses guerilla tactics. + +I'm speaking blind to the political context or who posted this. + +Just discussing the technical nature of war itself, which I love to do. +--- 58073265 +>>58051776 +top kek, there's plenty of instagram and tiktok videos showing salties casually strolling just off the shoreline, seeing a human, and immediately beelining to them, only slowing down on the water's edge and even then they're just getting ready to sprint at them i.e. "ambush" the person that's standing 20m inland +ambush predator doesn't mean they sit in one place with their mouth open, waiting for you to jump into their jaws +salties will kill you because you're in their territory, not just to eat you +--- 58073509 +>>58051776 +t. +--- 58073977 +>>58059511 +Some poor kid from Nebraska lied about his age, ended up on the Happy Jap-Slapping Trail, and ended up being pestered by dozens of leeches, beetles and other critters. He's the only guy who ever had to deal with them and his unit probably joked about it for decades. + +Then he goes home and ends up telling grandkids that it fucking sucked and never thinks about the potential scientific implications. +--- 58073989 +>>58051631 +I believe those boomers and japs were afraid of crocodiles and screaming like girls whenever they saw them, and probably a few did get eaten, but I doubt it was more than a few. Crocodiles IRL aren't really the bloodthirsty beasts boomers make them out to be. +--- 58074011 +>>58059769 +>>Had dysentery so bad, they cut out the back of their pants so they could shit without having to pull them off +how can men be so based kek +--- 58074044 +>>58051687 +OH thank god, I thought he was dragging a platypus by the bill at first. +--- 58074050 +>>58058137 +hello post10 +--- 58074073 +>>58073265 +People underestimate how smart crocodilians are. They raise offspring, use bait sticks to tempt nest building birds and are semi monogamous breeders going by mate preference studies in gators. Niles also seem to hunt semi communally. They aren’t just big lizards. I’d say they are probably near a cat or a hawk in intelligence. +--- 58074075 +>>58057918 +why read when you can see? +--- 58074100 +>>58058414 +Milk delivery! +--- 58074167 +>>58074075 +That’s a bit of perspective trickery +Scolopendra dehaani only gets 10 to 12 inches with 14 like max. +--- 58074172 +>>58074075 +How the fuck can people live in jungles? Jesus Christ and I thought mosquitoes were bad enough, that is not suitable for human habitation. +--- 58074205 +>>58074172 +My father was deployed in Central America for a while. He said the big spiders and centipedes sound like squirms or birds rustling through the leaves so they weren’t too bad to avoid. It’s the small things that get in your boots. +--- 58074426 +>>58054180 +>>58054011 +Wounds+ swamps is a bad combo beyond crocs aswell. Imagine the infections +--- 58074447 +>>58074050 +That guy sure have feelings about beavers +--- 58074486 +>>58058187 +More likely killed by diseases, drowning and exposure +--- 58074515 +>>58059193 +Not long ago there was a hunter here in sweden that was probably killed by a boar +--- 58074543 +>>58074515 +Pigs are based. Boars are fucking devils +--- 58075690 +>>58074515 +Get charged, loser +--- 58075834 +>>58073509 +Aww, look he's smiling! +--- 58075843 +>>58066565 +cows are notoriously curious dumb ass +--- 58076462 +>>58058333 +>In massive body of water +>drown +--- 58076555 +>>58076462 +I meant +>die of dehydration +--- 58076565 +>>58073509 +he just said he was Australian, didn't say species +--- 58076824 +>>58074515 +My coworkers brother got downed by a boar, gored in the leg a few cm from the femoral artery, wrestled on the ground and only survived because his dog distracted it enough to grab his rifle. He was back hunting moose a few weeks later. I also killed one but it was hit by two confused idiots so three confused idiots hit it on the head with a metal spit until he went forever sleep. F porker even though you are a pest. +--- 58078469 +>>58076555 +Salt water does not help against dehydration. +--- 58078512 +>>58074073 +They also seem to forget just how good they are at what they do. They found their niche and have 94 million years of specialization in their behavior. +--- 58078659 +>>58074167 +That's what she said +--- 58078666 +>>58074073 +>near a cat in intelligence. +Utterly fucking stupid, lazy and useless? +--- 58078724 +>>58066565 +They sent the bull to a new home +--- 58078732 +>>58078724 +--- 58078739 +>>58078732 +--- 58078745 +>>58078739 +--- 58078750 +>>58078745 +--- 58078754 +>ukrop nazis are utilizing beast masters and shamans +EPA crime! +--- 58078763 +Seeing ukies take good care of animals just makes the orcs seem even more comically inhumanly evil +--- 58078773 +>>58078763 +Best Russians have is the pillaging of the Kherson zoo before the retreat. +--- 58078784 +>>58078773 +And on the worst side, there's that one video from the early days of the war where vatniks tortured and killed a cat +--- 58078919 +>>58078666 +Incredibly lazy but also extremely efficient at killing, yes. +--- 58078939 +>>58078698 +There's something oddly cute about moles +--- 58079005 +>>58057962 +I found out how many leeches is necessary to prevent clotting completely first hand. After about 20 bites your wounds will just ooze until the blood dries into a smooth, plasticky layer. +--- 58079029 +>>58078666 +>doesn't comprehend how intelligent you have to be to afford the luxury of being lazy +Don't try to match wits with a cat, anon. Especially if death is on the line. +--- 58079049 +>IMPERIAL FORCE DEFILED +>FACING 5000 CROCODILES +--- 58079074 +>>58078666 +Cats being stupid lazy and useless is a right meme. You can literally train them do exact things that dogs can do. Hell, Russia is famous for its cat circuses, where they have cats do tricks and stuff. All because, you know, cats are better at that kind of thing than dogs. +>w-w-well they don't love you +Also false. Cats experience loss and separation anxiety too. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1DtBYeavN4 [Embed] + +Here have a cat circus vid. +--- 58079085 +>>58078732 +>>58078739 +>>58078745 +>>58078750 +>Ukrainians adopt a calf. +>Meanwhile PovertySlav Russians killing people's cats, dogs and torturing zoo animals. +lol +--- 58079094 +>>58079074 +I can't see a young girl (the one in the back) handling circus animals without thinking about the ending to Blood Meridian. +--- 58079156 +>>58073155 +You sound like you're too cucked to handle a simple problem without your neighbors ever knowing the difference. +--- 58079167 +>>58079029 +Nah. Cat shit parasites are probably more intelligent than cats. +--- 58081008 +>>58078666 +Dogshit hands wrote this post diff --git a/k/58055307.txt b/k/58055307.txt index 9a4d06ea04d5acd9f8a0cc9a9efed091cfb8cbd9..cbe1167786a59b4dd85d006f42c54041a1c75a41 100644 --- a/k/58055307.txt +++ b/k/58055307.txt @@ -69,3 +69,27 @@ i thought that was the fortnite season background for a minute >>58055307 (OP) >insulin kek, nice touch +--- 58073779 +>>58068510 +I never knew I wanted an mp5 in stainless or nickle, that looks way too good +--- 58075115 +>>58068707 +revolvers look unholy with a silencer. +--- 58076556 +>>58055657 +Whompty-Dompty-Dom/10 +--- 58077556 +>>58055657 +what the fuck are those guns +--- 58078641 +>>58055307 (OP) +--- 58078893 +>mogs all brands +--- 58078897 +>>58075115 +This one was literally destined for silencing tho +--- 58078987 +>>58055307 (OP) +--- 58079199 +>>58077556 +Disco Elysium reference diff --git a/k/58056102.txt b/k/58056102.txt index 4608d4b9cd0e48b950008f08dd718c3767fc66aa..50c4b62fd96feef6da68b66a68d89c34027eb4c4 100644 --- a/k/58056102.txt +++ b/k/58056102.txt @@ -297,3 +297,102 @@ No. Pic rel. Must stop disinfo to sage freedom. --- 58069818 >>58058199 I am SO glad I'm not the only person who see that +--- 58071003 +>>58064016 +Idc what people are saying but I need money and 95k a year sounds really good. Morals are for faggots, I need to pay my bills +--- 58071054 +>>58058595 +>hole sits in the car, criticizes and whines about her comrades the entire time while they do all the dangerous work + +Points for realism. +--- 58071869 +>>58056813 +>Si gringo es da CIA das selling da drugs. literally nobody else in the world has any incentive in joining dis lucrative trade ese. +--- 58071879 +>>58071869 +>shit mang dis was meant for>>58058307 +--- 58072037 +>>58062818 +Southern Pride Worldwide +--- 58072068 +>>58064621 +guy on the left kinda looks like Joaquin Phoenix +--- 58072376 +>>58062415 +Physical labor gives you test +--- 58072390 +>>58058463 +The US didn't lose the wars, they just failed at building it up afterwards. The 2003 Iraq war was won in less than 6 weeks with less than 200 casualties. Saddam Hussein was captured and killed on camera. The problem was filling that vacuum in a nation you've just won a war against. The occupation of Germany was much easier since the population is far more succeptible to adjusting to it's new situation than inbred Arabs who spawn random jihadi groups every other year. The same thing in Afghanistan in 2001. The US managed to overthrow the Taliban in less than 10 weeks with only 13 casualties. The issue here was even after 20 years of help, the Afghan government was fucking useless and fell within a few months of the US leaving. +The US is very good at fighting just incapable of doing the difficult job of creating a new government for people who are genuinely incapable of building ones for themselves. +--- 58072406 +>>58066919 +>"donnnnn't you do it... don't you rob that bank!" +Yeah, this is the thinking man's dilemma +--- 58075259 +>>58065379 +>>58072406 +Must be an aging man to defend this recycling of a failed television pilot (L.A. Takedown) +--- 58075370 +>>58061112 +>dark scene +>youtube compression +What's even the point of titling it 4k +There are 640x480 vids with less compression artifacts +--- 58076317 +>>58056102 (OP) +I never understood why the Americans use a military special force unit (delta) to do clandestine shit. don't you guys have a CIA military unit to do that ? +the Russian have vympel +the French had the 11th shock airborne reg, then CPIS +the brits must have some mi6 unit as well different from the SAS +--- 58076404 +>>58076317 +Because glowniggers are gay beta faggots and Delta is based hostage rescuing Chads. +--- 58076409 +>>58076317 +The US generally doesn't feel the need to advertise everything it does behind the scenes lmao +--- 58076696 +>>58076409 +non of those advertise anything. they just went discover after a few operations. +--- 58078906 +>>58076317 +Division of labor. The CIA arms "moderate rebels", Delta breaks into the moderate terrorists' houses at night when they inevitably turn out to be not so moderate after all, and the SEALs write best-selling memoirs about it. +--- 58078942 +>>58056564 +Yes, after GWOT began the LRRPdudes of the 90s realized physical strength was ackshully useful in cities. +--- 58079009 +>>58076317 +JSOC guys are largely "sheep dipped" temporarily into the CIA +--- 58079075 +>>58056102 (OP) + What's gonna happen? +falling down, the sequel? +--- 58079153 +>>58076317 +>>58079009 +Like everything else in the .gov, there is a lot of overlap. CAG, CIA Ground Brach, my buddy was on a team for NSA doing tech shit on day 1 in Afghanistan, plus the DEA and FBI and other Fed LE have teams that work internationally. +--- 58079327 +>>58076317 +we do, it's called SAD (Special Activities Division), or informally as the Ground Branch +--- 58079356 +>>58079327 +Never heard of them. +--- 58079407 +>>58058199 +>Grinch +>YOU'RE A MEAN ONE +>MR. VINING +--- 58079510 +>>58076317 +Because the CIA are tasked with intelligence gathering with covert action while Delta is mainly tasked for counterterrorism and direct action. Just because there is some overlap doesn't ignore that fact that said groups have completely different missions. You won't see a Delta guy running assets. +--- 58079548 +>>58079510 +When Trump was in office, one of his appointees prohibited the agency from running solo paramilitary actions. +--- 58079636 +>>58068953 +They don't even have to do that desu. Basically the entire US government is an example of regulatory capture. The people heading them are appointed to not do their mission but to accommodate the interests of the politicians that appointed them, who are instructed to put people in place that won't get in the way too much. +--- 58079946 +>>58064621 +Jim Rugg? +--- 58080764 +>>58060592 +>a clown could take over Vietnam but not 2 Presidents diff --git a/k/58056844.txt b/k/58056844.txt index 1aa234069c88f60e464df84586ea490882965d83..5507fe88e658be76f2cadcbddba30615494eaa64 100644 --- a/k/58056844.txt +++ b/k/58056844.txt @@ -363,3 +363,81 @@ me running from hobos in NYC --- 58070103 >>58057768 Is that an MI8? +--- 58070977 +>>58056844 (OP) +Your mom. Bitch. +--- 58072198 +>>58057313 +Hood sucks +--- 58072361 +>>58065765 +I had a coworker who mentioned that the Columbian unit that operated with his was really good and that they always stayed cool no matter what. He figured that their officers were mostly holding them back +--- 58073386 +>>58072361 +They’ve been fighting an insurgency for like 40 years now so I hope they are good +--- 58074284 +>>58056844 (OP) +Dissect Paraguay. +--- 58074329 +>>58057768 +I've never met a Peruvian before. Hola +--- 58074403 +>>58074329 +Peruana. +--- 58074837 +>>58056844 (OP) +Some shoot protestants... +--- 58074972 +>>58074837 +Based if true. +But I'm sure that you meant to type protesters, my fellow ESL. +--- 58075911 +>>58057204 +For me, it's Cuba +--- 58076480 +>>58074837 +Based +--- 58076749 +>>58057132 +Stop watching pornstars and OF whores +--- 58077292 +>>58062044 +Kill yourself libshit +--- 58077303 +>>58059626 +Anti-military anti-American communist subhuman detected. +--- 58078134 +>>58059626 +Here in Brazil it was 100% organic, americans just gave us a bit of logistical backup, in fact i would say it was a inevitable event that was set in motion when the commies inside the armed forces atemped a a coup some 30ish years prior during the "Intentona", that generation of young officers never forgave and forgot being shot while sleeping by communist officers so when they got to power shit was bound to go down, thats why our military crisis started years before CIA got involved and it didnt stop after the US backed off and shunned us either. + +little known fact americans gave more money to the leftists than it gave the goverment initialy thru NGOs funded by the state deparment (like the ford foundation). they were meant to fund democratic opposition but ended up being used to buy guns to guerillas. +--- 58078263 +>>58078134 +And when i say 100% organic i mean the army already had revolutionary anti-communist prospects and the middle class was already more worried about communist infiltration ever since the press revealed that the peasant leagues up north were getting money and guns from the CCP, so while the CIA did engage in "manufactured consent" gay reddit shit that they and the KGB loved doing thru NGOs (in this case the "Instituto de Pesquisas e Estudos Sociais" which wasnt a CIA NGO per se but got money from them), it didnt do very much to change the already chaotic enviroment. +--- 58078318 +>>58056857 +>>58056955 +>>58056950 +All of these +--- 58080324 +>>58066131 +I do +--- 58080702 +>>58078263 +Never heard of the chinese gun smuggling thing before, that's interesting +Was it the sort of high end stuff they sent to nam or just WW2 surplus and the like? +Most sourcessay the guerillas had hunting rifles and some stolen army weapons but might just be propaganda +--- 58081076 +>>58058446 +>populated by rich and upper middle class +What's the average income like to be considered upper middle class there? +--- 58081155 +>>58062466 +>actually... most latin woman prefer other latim men,most of the woman consider the men in usa,europe,asia "leche fria" wich mean they are kinda to tame for their taste +most women prefer men of their own race/ethnicity generally. the whole x girls like y boys is american mixrace virgin cope. +--- 58081162 +>>58064795 +what kind of retarded larp this is? go outside, get some fresh air. +--- 58081482 +>>58061624 +Who do you think the majority of Latino populations are? You're not purebred Spanish or German stock, Pedro, you're likely primarily indo. diff --git a/k/58057445.txt b/k/58057445.txt index 7f2be6ae96fb33f3e13b8389332dd67f85fcca84..333c4a3bc00481400c330dfd5021a1374bdcdf33 100644 --- a/k/58057445.txt +++ b/k/58057445.txt @@ -240,3 +240,157 @@ They aren't just an Arab army. They are an Arab puppet militia of an Arab army. >arabs are shit at war and have been for a long time, even with good equipment and training >take good equipment and training away and put them up against a country with western tech and western levels of competence >they get btfo every time +--- 58071379 +>>58069532 +--- 58072194 +>>58057445 (OP) +>revolves around having their own side killed so people feel sorry for them +Isn't that what the jews did +--- 58072264 +The whole thing is less Arabs vs Jews and more communists vs capitalists. +Palestinian victory would be turning Israel renamed Palestine into a secular atheist state like Yugoslavia or China. +--- 58072267 +>>58064041 +>get offered diplomatic help +>deny it because you want a war +>end up having a huge advantage over your enemy in every material factor +>get absolutely BTFO +>not just ask, demand that the nation that armed you to send their own troops to save you from the mess you made +Why are Arabs like this? +--- 58072296 +>>58058555 +>Most Israelites are okay and kind people + +Lol, they're the rudest, most arrogant fucking people on earth +t. Psytrance producer and ex-touring DJ. +--- 58072301 +>>58063557 +>But the Palestinians aren't even Arabs. They're non-Jewish Jews. + +This + +Palestinians basically run their own mini-ZOG in Central and South America where they control a disproportionate amount of the wealth and engage in naked exploitation of indigenous communities. El Salvador even has a Palestinian president right now. +--- 58072310 +>>58063370 +Yep, also Hamas is an ISRAELI puppet. Look into it's history, look how they always collaborate with Likud to fuck over attempted elections in Palestine and shore up support for both Hamas and Likud. +--- 58072429 +>>58072296 +Worse than the French? Is that even possible? +When I was a kid my family would sometimes go to a beach in Maine that was popular with French Canadians and they are the biggest assholes I’ve ever met. +Some French kid stole my shovel and his father screamed at me in French when I asked for it back. My father who spoke French tried to diffuse the situation and asked for the shovel back. The French guy said something, and after a short pause my dad slugged him and broke his nose. We got banned from the beach that day. +Apparently among other insults he was demanding we spoke French. Imagine going to another country and demanding that they speak your language. I know there are other burgers who will go places and demand they speak English but I think they’re stupid too. +I thought this was just a French Canadian thing until I went to France and got stuck there for a few days due to airport bullshit. They were the most arrogant fuckers I’ve ever come across. Full on “how dare a non French person exist in my presence”. Everywhere else in Europe was great, Spain, England, Greece, Italy, hell even people in the baltics were really friendly and welcoming. But the French are on another level. +--- 58072468 +>>58072301 +Wtf +Redpill me on this +--- 58072488 +>>58057445 (OP) +Modern arabs sucks at pretty much everything desu. +--- 58073704 +>>58072488 +How can this happen when a thousand years ago they were kicking ass east west north and south? +--- 58073980 +>>58072468 +Christian Arabs fled in droves out of the Ottoman Empire and flooded Latin America (and West Africa) +it's especially the Lebanese who dominate though. +on all levels except the religious they're exactly like Jews. +--- 58074228 +>>58072429 +not the same anon but Israelis and Indians are pretty much the bottom of the barrel regarding human qualities, the chosen one/ high caste mentality makes them unfit for any type of civilized interaction. Take it from a spaniard who has pretty much dealt with more foreigners than the UN has members. +--- 58074532 +>>58073704 +>religion mandates having many sons +>religion also permits polygyny +>this leads to a surplus of young men who are unable to marry +>the only feasible way for these men to find unmarried women to marry is to invade other territories +>combine this with jihad and you get enormous, fanatically motivated armies that can simply overwhelm many enemies +--- 58075101 +>>58071379 +Read your figure more closely. It counts Palestinians as well as Israeli citizens. Israel will never let Palestinians live in Israel tho. +--- 58075243 +>>58074532 +so how does this explain arab incompetence, by this description they should be the best fighters on the planet +--- 58075420 +>>58058555 +LMAO you're full of shit. The US does not need Israel. Israel needs the US. Fuck off with your propaganda, shill. +--- 58075709 +>>58075243 +I wasn't attempting to explain "Arab incompetence" I was explaining away the myth of Arab competence. +You asked "how were arab militaries so effective 1,000 years ago" and I explained how it was a byproduct of an enormous population combined with religious zeal. +When the Arabs started to run into enemies that weren't so easily pushed around by larger armies (namely, non-Arabs) their expansion stopped. +--- 58077014 +>>58065493 +Anon, give up, you already lost the argument, even if we call Vietnam a "defensive" war despite commies literally invading South Vietnam you still have to explain why 3:1 nation numeric superiority and a terrain which favoured invasion due lack of features for guerrilla, arabs still managed to lose, in fact, if you were to be arab and keep trying it will make the truth even more evident. +--- 58077189 +>>58071379 +As the other anon said you are counting palestine territories + +Besides, what? Having a tidal wave of dumb human flesh means nothing when a drone wing could frag hundreds of boys in HD, and unlike in Ukraine this horde won't have the element of surprise, a big warchest and initial technological superiority, for that matter they wont even have a 1 to 3 demographic superiority. + +I am truly tired of all these RTS gaymers thinking real life is like Command and Conquer or something where you can win a war by just spamming infantry, history has consecutively shown numeric and demographic superiority means jackshit even in preinidustrial societies if your people lack leadership and organization, it's like these people never knew about the persians during the Grecopersian wars, the british under Boudicca, the ottomans in Vienna and the chinese during the opium wars, oh, right, here is the answer, a decent education. +--- 58077276 +Because Palestinian isn’t being bankrolled by the strongest nation on the planet. Logistics win wars, and at this point I’m surprised isreal hasn’t just taken over and been done with it +--- 58077297 +REMINDER: +isrealis are demons +do not interact with them +--- 58077454 +>>58077276 +the jews already thought of this anon. if they take over they lose eternal victimhood status. its much more beneficial politically for them to stay engaged in a one sided hostility +--- 58077854 +>>58073980 +>Lebanese +they are greco-phoenicancs, you imbecile +--- 58077891 +>>58077454 +That’s a pretty gigabrain move +--- 58078108 +>>58058813 +>Why both parties do not make peace and address land rights and title is baffling +Irreconcilable differences. A plurality of Israelis are not willing to accept anything but the entire West Bank being part of de jure Israel and a plurality/majority of Palestinians are not willing to allow Israel to exist at all. Virtually every Palestinian home on the planet has a big key hanging on the wall representing their desire to return to the homes they lost in 1948. Their entire national identity is built around it. My theory is that both sides are biding the time until the next proper big shooting war, when each side will attempt to carry out its own final solution. +--- 58079975 +>>58077189 +>history has consecutively shown numeric and demographic superiority means jackshit +If a ethnic majority becomes a minority civil conflict almost always happens, see Lebanon etc. Less Israelis having kids mean that more and more Arabs will continue to get more power in institutions in Israel. +--- 58081145 +>>58057626 +They have high obesity rates because it turns out unless you're hard to get food to (Civil war and African bush and such) it's easy to be calorie-saturated. +>>58059787 +I can't imagine a scummier scum than the ultra orthodox. Assuming they have business investments they really are just a walking stereotype of the worst features of a Jew. +>Hyper religious zealots +>Busybody moral tyrants +>Refuse to actually fight +>Often don't even want to do entrepreneurial work so much as just leechery (at least here in the states they tend to be more landlord types. I'm assuming kibbutzes in Israel are still the domain of the leftist Jews more than ultra orthodox) +>Secular ISraelis pay x6 as much taxes as ultra orthodox +>Combat IDF only recently get 2400 shekels a month and soon 3000 shekels +>Non combat are now getting 1800 shekels instead of 1200 a month +>You get 2000 shekels to be a Yeshiva +>“learning in yeshiva is harder than serving as a soldier on the frontlines.” +>75% of Haredi women work, 50% of haredi men work +>Haredi pay 1.5 thousand shekels a month, Non-haredi pay 4.5 thousand shekels +It'd be one thing to be ultra-nationalist militarists. I can understand that, basically citizenship through service fascism. BUT WHAT DO THESE FUCKING CURLY HAIRED FAGGOTS EVEN DO? + +Maybe they just sit around and be nonces in their community like Haredi are in the US. +--- 58081176 +>>58078108 +That's a sound theory for Israel because if WW3 or an apocalyptic collapse happens the Palestinian question will be solved. The Palestinians have no real chance of that but demographics are highly in their favor. Not just in Israel but in the wider world - Europe will have larger Muslim demographics, America is starting to sour on Israel. + +The future has to have either a major war/collapse that allows Israel to ein volk ein reich ein bibi, or if things keep going on then Israel gets to run the anti-apartheid scheme. + +>>58073704 +Not to achsually but the Arab martial exploits was a vanishingly brief period of the real hard-nigga Ghassanids, Lakhmids, and Arabian Peninsula Arabs. The bedouin and some of the townfolk who were in close cultural affinity to them. Palestine or Syria or Mesopotamian cities? That's the domain of the "Whatever basedboy is in Aramaic". These warrior types held fast to their traditions for the Umayyads, but by the Abbasids in the 700s you get a pretty rapid shift over to a foreign preponderance in Muslim armies. Not to the point that Arabs cease to exist as soldiers but to a point that Arabs are a constellation in a heterodox army. + +>>58075709 +Your description's honestly full of dogshit for how/why the Arabs did. It was not zerg-rushes of mindless jihadists, this is sheer copium to do away with the fact that the Romans, Persians and others simply just got out-fought. +--- 58081202 +>>58081176 +(cont) to the earlier point is you were never having a great resevoir of soldiers from Palestine, nevermind the fact that look at how less than 1000 years (less than 100 even!) separates a great many other people such as latte-drinking green-voting German sissies in 2023 from guys who liked to carve eachother's faces with rapiers and sew horsehair to make the scar bigger for laughs in fucking 1910. + +To the arab conquest point, the expansion happened at a point of exhaustion between the two great empires of the time, in the midst of one having ridiculous levels of purity-spiral repression of its Christian sects and the other still having simmering religious issues compared to a people who, Khajirites and others notwithstanding, had a lot more asabiyya. And we can see a pretty quick glimpse of what happens with invasions when you have communal solidarity (Ukraine 2022-2023) and when you don't (Afghanistan 2021). You can look into the minutia of the conflicts but it's going to be amateur hour to conclude some special weapon or kung-fu technique let a half-naked lizard-eating rastafarian looking bedouin trounce a Byzantine soldier or Persian cavalryman. Or to think that muh clibinarii muh total war doomstack should explain away why such wunderwaffles could only fail to a teeming horde of scimitar wielding Lawrence of Arabia extras. +--- 58081241 +>>58059773 +No matter how many times you copy and paste this, Ben Shapiro isn't going to let you watch him jerk off to his sister's pregnancy pics. +--- 58081282 +>>58081241 +Cry more, Jamal. It won't make it any less true. diff --git a/k/58057834.txt b/k/58057834.txt index b9bfc16d81e0b874d7790d143e6f243b9013bac6..2a5e6dfe6db0fcecab059952e32bfecd55198772 100644 --- a/k/58057834.txt +++ b/k/58057834.txt @@ -155,3 +155,15 @@ I'm not the one posting soijack. Look in the mirror m8 >>58065181 >>58058533 tan rifles are still gay +--- 58072964 +>>58063342 +lmao, 90% of those groups are just wannabes that bought whatever American SOF use +--- 58073557 +>>58065010 +? +--- 58075582 +>>58057834 (OP) +Pure sex. Just because I hate myself, how much would a civilian version of this cost? +--- 58078874 +>>58075582 +like a couple grand for the base MR223, a few more thousand for a gray market 416 parts kit, a few hundo to have it assembled and tanodized, a grand or so for the EOTech and magnifier, and then you'd have to source an M320 somehow to stand in for the even more unobtainable HK269. So an utterly insane amount of money for an AR, but not as expensive as many transferable MG or high-end NV binos. diff --git a/k/58059702.txt b/k/58059702.txt index 40a05ff201263cf1fde28480860b4ba5f0def3e2..57e7ea23d0956a13248bfe38b56d4988d009109d 100644 --- a/k/58059702.txt +++ b/k/58059702.txt @@ -270,3 +270,180 @@ lol @ Bombshells. That's a Texas thing but it's because their patrons are just r >>58065184 >what kind of legal jurisdiction do they even have to enforce anything? Absolutely none at all +--- 58070981 +>>58064038 +Yeah but the thing about this is, unions becoming basically "de-politicized" and also turning into a rotating door of career union guys who just care about protecting their own positions are related. There's a term in organized labor for this, "business union," which I think means the union is basically run like a business too instead of being in principle a democratic organization controlled by the actual members. That's what they do: don't worry about politics, don't get involved, just let the union handle it... + +I have some friends involved in unions who tell me about this stuff. Some unions in the U.S. are better than others, some have really good people in them, some are getting better, and some are really bad and mostly grifts. They seem to be better the more "rank-and-file" workers are organized and participate and hold the leadership accountable. One of my friends is in a really bad one where the leadership discourages that, which sounds like a sick joke, but most of the workers are demoralized anyways and don't think of what they're doing as a "career" and don't get involved so nothing changes. + +The unions have their own internal politics. I know another guy in the Teamsters from a multi-generation family of union members, and being a union guy is a big part of his identity (I think this is an underrated but good thing about them, especially for men, it's like a tribe but based on work instead of gang bullshit), and was part of this organized faction within the Teamsters to elect a different group of people organized in the "rank and file" instead of the old Hoffa clan, and there's a big contract renewal coming up, maybe they'll go on strike I dunno. + +Nothing is perfect in the world. But there are also costs to 40+ years of Reaganomics and the decline of organized labor in society that makes people reconsider it. + +Pinkertons: + +https://youtu.be/JY6N-tEppkg [Embed] +--- 58071143 +>>58064855 +maybe but the turn over is crazy. the entry qualifications are low and most of the people working here are mexicans. +--- 58071292 +Also I wanna add that the Pinkertons of union busting days is different from the ones now other than the name. + +In terms of actual bodyguards, the people who hire them usually just want to flash around the fact that they have security and no one expects any actual trouble more dangerous than a drunk asshole or regular schmucks being somewhere where they're not supposed to be, but if a gun comes out they're not taking a bullet for their client unless they're complete and total morons like this guy >>58063410 + +This is speaking to most mid-level guys who work private security for rich people, although someone like Taylor Swift or Oprah who has a real need for security probably has more competent people. There will be a security lead that knows stuff, and maybe some bouncers to be muscle, augmented by cops and local/venue security. Even at the high end most bodyguards are still just guys that stand around and are mostly useful at handling overzealous fans or hecklers. The reality is that if someone wanted to do something to someone and had put the smallest amount of thought into it, there's basically nothing you, the target, could do except hope to get lucky. +--- 58071357 +>>58065098 +Kyle Rittenhouse +>IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN WE DO IT!!?? +I fucking hate you. Both shoots were entirely justified. Both involved people fucking around who subsequently found out. +--- 58071381 +>>58063382 +>t. gecko45 +--- 58071451 +>>58062918 +Bro that's called a mall ninja. They've existed for awhile although now society is getting to a point where they might actually get called to put up or shut up given everyone chimps out left and right. + +> these guys were very serious about blowing someone apart if they try to steal. +Then the shop gets sued to oblivion by the DOJ/California state and they get fucked up by floyd riots because a dindu nuffin got shot. I'm not saying it won't happen but most stores understand in the climate right now if you rough up a thief (let alone fucking kill one) you're going to get more headache than its worth. Unless you think the media won't have a feeding frenzy about stoking up unrest due to jamal being executed for theft. +They're more about scaring would be thieves from considering it because Jamal won't have the thinking to go "They won't shoot me because of the above". This might change as crime gets bad enough people go "I don't care just do something" but right now unless it's real big thief shit like a fucking car or something shooting a looter is guaranteed trouble. + +>>58071292 +Bit like a home defense dog. It's there to dissuade low to middle level threats. Which is fine. Like tying an onion to your belt, which was the style at the time. Now if you'll excuse me I gotta take the ferry so I gotta find where I put my nickle. Back in those days nickles had pictures of bumblebees on em. Gimme five bees for a quarter you'd say. +--- 58071501 +>>58071292 +>Also I wanna add that the Pinkertons of union busting days is different from the ones now other than the name. +Lol they're doing exactly the same thing they were doing nearly 100 years ago now so my recommendation is to kill yourself my man +--- 58071749 +>>58065184 +It's all intimidation. You would be surprised what you can convince most people of when you show up looking scawy with a gun +--- 58072322 +>>58063076 +--- 58073741 +>>58071749 +this is correct. policy is to just hand over everything incase of a robbery. we carry firearms for two and half reasons reasons 1) looks / intimidation 2) self defense 2.5) incase of a robbery were shots are fired instantly without warning. +If we are ever to be held at gunpoint for whatever reason its just hand over shit and dont resist but given the trucks are well armored there is a high probability that shots will be fired immediately which means are to respond with force, this aint some sheepdog shit but its common sense that the attacker wont stop at shooting the truck up +--- 58074065 +>>58059702 (OP) +>born too late to explore the new world +>born too late to conquer the west +>might get to shoot a trespassing Pinkerton as a consolation prize +--- 58074110 +>notice the date +thanks OP i almost forgot +--- 58074119 +>>58063382 +>We’re cops, we just don’t get the glory. +>that lingo +holy shit +we are dealing with levels of retardation never before thought possible +--- 58074125 +>>58063135 +im not letting neets on twitter cut the line. sorry. +--- 58074231 +>>58065427 +I’m in a union. +Dues aren’t much but all of my employer’s unions are very top down; the working folk are not making decisions, can’t easily initiate anything, and are used to provide money and vote yes or no on decisions made my the union execs. +--- 58074307 +>>58065725 +If society ever actually breaks down and things become postapocalyptic, the richfags are the first to get eaten. Those private security forces they hire only stick around because there's money in the picture. If shit actually hit the fan, well suddenly the USD is literally worthless, and at that point the rich guy is only worth as much food and water he has access to. And given how utterly detached the truly elite are, and the lack of loyalty they'll have towards him. More than likely the PMC dudes willing to be bandits will just shoot him and his son and rape his wife and daughter then take the vault for themselves. + +All the things that helped keep a feudal society together (lack of education, divine right to rule, strict social classes that determine your "worth") have been eroded significantly by the modern age, and someone who lacks the charisma and/or knowhow to keep a group together will not be forming any huge feudal kingdoms. +--- 58074357 +>>58068829 +>>58074119 +You civvies don’t get it +>>58063382 +I got your back brother!You see, some people here understand the risks we security officers undergo to protect you people, would we exist if our jobs were useless??? I tell you that we are undervalued for our beneficial effect on society at large, for the urban and suburban shopping centers see %80 of the armed violence in this nation, and why don’t the cops take care of it, because they are a bunch of wusses, and they are not man enough to put up with the danger and stress. You all who are makeing fun of me have never been threatened by jailed drug dealers, serial killers, and shoplifters, or fired at by high powered rifles so excuse me if I decide to have good weapons to protect and defend myself without all of you makeing fun of my choice, and they way I do my job! +--- 58074375 +>>58065818 +Yeah good job, r*ddit. the oil is fine, water is plentiful, and climate change is overstated. other than that, yeah. the oligarchs want us all living lives of strife and slavery under their thumb. they’re literally possessed by demons and want us in an abusive relationship with them. we eat the bugs and we don’t get beaten as badly that day etc. that sort of thing. +--- 58074390 +>>58063453 +>the pay is $20-25/h about 45-48h week. +Statistically I know it’s not a dangerous job but that seems kinda low to me. Not a bad living especially with the OT but I would have thought it’s a little higher for the potential danger +--- 58074418 +>>58064038 +>tl;dr you can fucking despise unions in their current-year iteration and all they've become, without hating the concept of organized labor. +This is /k/. Get you’re nuanced opinion out of here. This board is all or nothing anymore. Now excuse me while I weep for a bygone era +--- 58074448 +>>58065184 +None, unless it’s removing people from private property. If they ever approach you in public just treat them like anyone else. +--- 58074483 +>>58065725 +>They are looting as much as they can from the government and the citizenry as they can to build their own private empires so they can live like new feudal kings when the time comes. +Except their soldiers are going to turn on them immediately. If you are on the richfag security detail, what’s the point of keeping them alive if the dollar is meaningless? If USD still has sway and value, society hasn’t completely collapsed. The rich dude isn’t providing the food, water, power, or location/housing. Why would you keep them around? Why wouldn’t the team leader just kill them and take over? +--- 58074503 +>>58062946 +>Light infantry level at most. +Rent-a-cops do not have belt fed machine guns, hand grenades, AT4s, night vision, thermals, and grenade launchers. +--- 58074600 +>>58063666 +>something from the 19th century had the all seeing eye +Wow I'm shocked. +--- 58074614 +>>58074390 +yeah most use the job as a stepping stone into LE or airport security which in my area pays 28-35/h roughly. lots of mexicans low entry qualifications as posted earlier. +--- 58074649 +>>58064358 +Play the game and get over on the old fucks. They'll roll out the red carpet for you and say stuff like "I taught him everything he knows" and they might even do just that. They will give you shit if youre some autist who won't crack a joke or complains to management +--- 58074908 +>>58065427 +>>58065427 +>>58065427 +>>58065427 +All i need to know is american dockworkers and their actions have made US ports some of the least efficient in the entire world. + +We can also look at shipbuilders unions and how they killed the US shipbuilding industry. +--- 58074933 +>>58074908 +>>58074908 +Too be fair it was steel workers, and other groups that helped kill US shipbuilding. +--- 58074981 +>>58074503 +You hope +--- 58075641 +>>58062918 +>>58064113 +>>58070891 +Bombshells is the closest thing we'll ever get to the goth IHOP meme and I too would want it protected at all costs. +--- 58077538 +>>58070981 +10/10 post. +--- 58078970 +>>58063453 +>Personally I do a psa dagger becauss I am poorfag +Hey, in Finland armed guards would have Llamas and Tauruses way back when. On the other hand the working environment here would barely ever require one to even consider shooting +--- 58079158 +>>58061720 +Kek you sound like a sour grapes commie faggot. It's no one's fault but you're own for not prepping. +--- 58079304 +>>58065725 +you're right in that this is the intention of a certain sect of the ultra-wealthy but there's others. many are just paranoid about being kidnapped. There are some very smart people whose personal success has burdened with a somewhat irrational optimism (or in some cases narcissism). + +More importantly however this guy >>58074307 is equally correct. The rich are largely self-obsessed or so autistic their understanding of disaster prep is buying a several million dollar hotel room or learning to shoot arrows in their backyard. The security companies behind these organizations are far more capable of maintaining a functioning hierarchy in a collapse scenario but very few are serious about the nitty gritty details as few are planning as far ahead as a global EOTW would entail. The billionaires don't have much of a chance outside of places no one else would bother to take from them & the security companies are either irrelevant or have a lifespan if they don't rapidly adapt. What will actually happen in a collapse is far more of a dice roll than a billionaire dystopia would suggest. It'll be still be shitty, but likely not that brand of shitty. +--- 58079859 +>>58068829 +>>58074119 + +[spoiler]https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas[/spoiler] +--- 58079874 +>>58079859 +>>58068829 +>>58074119 + +Well, so much for the spoiler tag. + +Link that works: https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/ +--- 58080334 +>>58061720 +So work for Pinkertion! Have you ever taken a good LOOK at plebs? + +They're shit and deserve the boot. They're poor because they're stupid and they're angry because they're not smart enough to better themselves. +--- 58080382 +>>58080334 + +if you're a pinkerton and you're not c-suite you're probably a pleb. if you're on 4chan you're definitely a pleb. +--- 58080448 +>>58061870 +This. And can confirm. I have worked security for 10 years now, both contract and direct employed. 99% of security guards are utter retards who can barely stand they are so fat, let alone do anything. They amount that are actually armed, and know how to use those arms, is alarmingly small. And if society would collapse, they would all disperse to go be with their families and loved ones. No one is protecting their employer. You might get a few cowboys, but they would be rekt quickly by the sheer numbers of the mob. diff --git a/k/58059906.txt b/k/58059906.txt index ba31546934212c657e091664773709c36e1034de..bf7b1feec307cdde5d64c497c2f60b87facc2fda 100644 --- a/k/58059906.txt +++ b/k/58059906.txt @@ -684,3 +684,518 @@ Blame that on industrialization and whatever kind of capitalism we have today. Wrong. The Mongols were more resistant to logistical difficulties due to their lifestyle, but that doesn't make them immune to those problems. The Mongols were tiny in population compared to their neighbors and conquered subjects, which made ruling their vast territories incredibly difficult. It's why genocide was a major military and political policy for them, because it made occupied territories easier to govern and manage. That being said by the time the Mongols reached Europe they were already stretched thin, with most of their forces occupied with the invasion of China. This made the campaign in Eastern Europe very difficult for them and it also didn't help that the Mongols were absolute retards when it came to governance and administration, and always struggled to use the full potential of their conquered subjects beyond using them as cannon fodder. +--- 58071084 +>>58066045 +Nice cope +--- 58071102 +>>58060545 +Genoese crossbowmen BABYYY +--- 58071142 +>they did +>also get a better weapon you memetard +--- 58071177 +>>58060692 +oh yes its totally not practical to hold "your round" in the chamber to be able to just bring it up and shoot instead of having the fumble around with a bow while also trying to ride. + +Crossbows were more tacticool +--- 58071285 +>>58066897 +yes, but they can't retreat in vast steppes. +--- 58071335 +>>58066022 +>>58066911 +England was created by William through an invasion and a subjugation. it's political power is far more vertical, it was created from the top (king) to the lower (normand aristocracy, then English aristocracy, then English peasants), meanwhile in France, the power had to be build up by the king slowly after Philippe the first. it was more horizontal and the king had less traditional power + +1.the king John got the Magna Carta because he had more power than the French king, which allowed him to screw up even more. every mesure he took to finance his campaigns on the continent couldn't be implemented by the French king, his vassals would tell him to fuck off, stuff like taxes on wedding, and an harsh judicial system, paying to marry a young noblewoman. it was precisely because they gave him so much power and so muck failure he got the Magna Carta impose on him. the Magna Carta also allows the king to raise taxes in case of war, something the French king couldn't do + +2. the free archer are a prefect exemple of it. the English king could force his subject to take archery training every Friday, having a large pool to recruit his archer. the French king tried to do the same, but couldn't force people into regular training : hence a failure. + +at the end it goes like that : French king 1100 (very weak, very horizontal in power)< English king in 1100 (very powerful, very vertical).1200, English king fucks up, noble revolt. got imposed the Magna Carta. still has more marge of action Than the French monarchy.1330,1456 hundred year war : the French monarchy reform itself, manage to because absolute, meanwhile the English king is complete submitted by the parliament (nobility), noble revolt (war of the roses.) +--- 58071411 +>>58069280 +>Its actually grassland for their fuck huge horse herds +Only what I've been saying all along + +>>58069337 +>China has no horses, only Mongolia +Please +--- 58071412 +>>58069438 +The post your quoting says the THIRD invasion of Poland was three times larger and defeated and that the first two were small and not aimed at holding large areas. I don't get why you think pointing out that the SECOND invasion was a smaller raid, what Anon said, refutes this. + +Imagine going scrambling through books only to fail to actually refute the main point that you would know is true if you had a basic understanding of the Mongols as a real empire and not some EBIN FUCKING COOL GUYS. Which is that they weren't invincible. They tried to enter Europe and had mild successes but we're largely unsuccessful because they LOST every major attempt to take and hold land. This is ostentatiously true and nothing you wrote even challenges this. +--- 58071445 +>>58069438 +Also, if you actually knew what you were talking about you'd realize that the 1241 invasion IS the same invasion with the raid into Poland and the attempt to enter Bohemia. + +That is, it larger because it was an attempt to do what the Mongols did before and take a large area. Thus the entire invasion force can be larger whole the forces engaged by Poland alone can, and were,. significantly smaller. + +That force STILL gave up in Bohemia after defeats. + +The later attempts were focused on using a larger number of men for smaller geographic areas. Using 90,000 men in multiple groups across a front from the Baltic to the Black Sea is not the same as using 50,000 just got modern day Hungary, etc. That's where you're getting confused. + +And, so, the third Polish invasion, by all accounts, was the largest by a factor of around three. It has a 2:1 advantage in troops. It LOST. +--- 58071523 +>>58069647 +Don't bother. This is clearly a Chinese guy flailing for reasons to say "actually, even though the Mongols attempted to get into Europe, facing third rate European powers while doing so, and lost on several occasions, never succeeding, it doesn't count. + +He's citing random book pages that don't even support his argument, which makes me think he is ESL. + +Mongols had little success in Europe, unless you count Russia as Europe, that's a historical fact. +--- 58071572 +>>58059906 (OP) +Pretty sure a few kingdoms used them +>Kievan Rus +>Hungarians +>Poland +>France +--- 58071580 +>>58060574 +They got crushed by Austrians and Croatians anon. +--- 58073945 +>>58060174 +>he fell for jewllyhood communist subhuman third world brownoid propaganda. +Mongols never met plated armored European knights, and in the few occasions when they met chain-mailed European knights, they were handily defeated. Vatniggers aren't Europeans and don't fight like Europeans do. +--- 58073979 +>>58073945 +>Mongols never met plated armored European knights +well yeah, they didn't exist when the mongols attacked Europe you dumbass. + +The Romans never met the full power of the Royal Navy when they invaded England either. So? +--- 58074038 +>>58073979 +So the plate armored knights would wipe the floor with the Mongols horse archers, unlike what this subhuman poster was trying to imply>>58060174 +Or are you a subhuman too? +--- 58074064 +>>58074038 +>So the plate armored knights would wipe the floor with the Mongols horse archers +Maybe, maybe not. Heavier armor didn't seem to help anyone deal with horse archers. The only real major successes against them before guns were adopted were through combined arms warfare, Romans and Alexander were able to successfully counter and destroy steppe nomads regularly. +>b-but muh knights muh white ppl +quit acting like a nigger +--- 58074087 +>>58074064 +>Maybe, maybe not. Heavier armor didn't seem to help anyone deal with horse archers. +Kill yourself. Heavier armor is the fucking reason why archers went out of style in continental Europe in favor of crossbows and firearms. +What the fuck kinda proof do you have for ridiculous claims like >Heavier armor didn't seem to help anyone deal with horse archers? +--- 58074131 +>>58074087 +Christ you're an angry little retard. +>Heavier armor is the fucking reason why archers went out of style in continental Europe in favor of crossbows and firearms. +That'd have more to do with crossbows and firearms being way easier to train to use. No need to mutilate your fucking skeleton to pull a full retard weight longbow when anyone can use a crossbow or gun. +>Heavier armor didn't seem to help anyone deal with horse archers? +Easy, even the armor you think is insufficient pretty much entirely countered horse archers arrows. During the crusades there are multiple accounts of crusaders being shot full of arrows like pincushions but being relatively unharmed because the arrows could not penetrate the padding underneath. And of course in spite of this the crusades failed and as you pointed out eastern Euros failed to handle horse archers and wound up regularly dominated by them. +>b-but that doesn't matter heavier armor would make the knights go super aryan and totally win because reasons even though armor wasn't the problem in the first place +ok little buddy +--- 58074180 +>>58074131 +>the crusades failed +Not because of horse archers +>eastern Euros failed to handle horse archers +No. Vatniggers, who aren't european, failed. Eastern Euros handled them just fine. +Still no proof for +>>58074064 +>Heavier armor didn't seem to help anyone deal with horse archers +God what a retarded "opinion" +Post skin post hair post vote history post DNA test +--- 58074187 +>>58074180 +Here's my eye. I am white, and you are a nigger. +--- 58074204 +>>58074187 +>I am white +>Heavy armor doesn't help against horse archers +>horse archers dominated eastern europe +>plate armored knights may not wipe the floor with mongol horse archers +>>muh knights +heavy_doubt.jpg +--- 58074210 +>>58059906 (OP) +Europe did develop horse archery. But Europe was just not the place where horse archery could really shine. Logistically it seems more suited to nomadic civilizations than settled civilizations too. +And let us not forget that in the case of the mongols it was their heavy cavalry, the lancers that did most of the killing too. Horse archers were scarier during foraging than during pitched battles. +--- 58074220 +>>58074204 +It's the probably the mongol/tartar/magyar/moor/cuman/turk/albanian genes +--- 58074226 +>>58074204 +Post eye., you won't because it's brown +--- 58074244 +>>58074226 +Reminder that Celts used to be subhuman too despite having light colored eyes. +--- 58074252 +>>58074244 +>mudskin calling others subhumans +lel +--- 58074288 +>>58074252 +If you shill for horse archers you're subhuman, yes. +--- 58074361 +>>58074288 +confirmed brown eyes +>shill for horse archers +if pointing out the obvious is shilling, then sure I'm shilling. Horse archers dominated a stretch of land from Hungary clear to China from the domestication of the horse clear to the adoption of firearms by Europeans. Nothing could displace them despite numerous attempts. Heavily armored cavalry was used regularly against them and was not met with major success. They also regularly spilled out and conquered massive swathes of land all across the world. The reason you speak the language you do is because steppe nomads conquered and utterly replaced the original Europeans. + +It's also true that whenever nomads settled in Europe they gave up horse archers eventually. Hungarians, East Germans, Bulgars etc all wound up indistinguishable from other Europeans over time. But I don't think it's so simple as "muh knights would win because they just would ok" +--- 58074416 +>>58074361 +>Horse archers dominated a stretch of land from Hungary clear to China from the domestication of the horse clear to the adoption of firearms by Europeans. Nothing could displace them despite numerous attempts. Heavily armored cavalry was used regularly against them and was not met with major success. +Simply falsehood after falsehood. Cavalry dominated that land. Heavily armored, lance-armed cavalry, like the Mongols and Jurchens were using. Not unarmored horse archers. + +However, since their metallurgy isn't as good as Western european metallurgy, their lance-armed heavy cav would lose against European lance-armed heavy cav. End of. Horse archers aren't even in the equation. +--- 58074451 +>>58074361 +This is what dominated the steppes, not horse archers +--- 58074456 +>>58074416 +>horse archer=unarmored +lmao retard +>However, since their metallurgy isn't as good as Western european metallurgy +so you are telling me the people who controlled Persia, you know the place where Damascus steel was being forged, yeah those guys had inferior metallurgy to the Europeans who were importing it. +--- 58074470 +>>58074456 +>so you are telling me the people who controlled Persia, you know the place where Damascus steel was being forged, yeah those guys had inferior metallurgy to the Europeans who were importing it. +Yes. +Are you brown? +--- 58074480 +>>58074470 +No, we've been over that already. Reminder, you do have brown eyes. +--- 58074501 +>>58074470 +>muh damasked steel +tell me you ain't joking. It's literally brownoid cope. +>oh our steel was so great, folded over 6 gorillion times, cut through whitoid armor +>oh you want us to make one now? uh... secret technique, uh... not for the eyes of the white devils, uh... we forgor how to make it +--- 58074519 +>>58074501 +>muh damasked steel +>It's literally brownoid cope. +Then why were Europeans importing this steel? +>oh you want us to make one now? +>secret technique, uh... not for the eyes of the white devils, uh... we forgor how to make it +Many Persians were white at this time however. They had not been nearly as Arabified yet. +--- 58074535 +>>58074470 +I mean yes, which is why so little made it to Europe, damascus steel was only superior to early Euro steel but by the early 300's they had surpassed it +--- 58074540 +>>58074519 +Europeans imported many things, from chinaware to the bubonic plague. Doesn't mean it's good. >>58074535 +this +--- 58074554 +>>58074451 +>>58074416 +It was a one-two punch kind of thing, harass and confuse opponents with horse archers, sweep with heavy cavalry. Steppe heavy cavalry would not have been able to deal with organized infantry formations on their own, not in the way they did. +>>58074131 +Look at the battle of Dorylaeum, once European heavy cavalry shows up, the Seljuk horse archers had to flee. +>crusades failed +That had little to do with the effectiveness of horse archers, besides when European heavy cavalry and Middle Eastern horse archers first clashed it was in the beginning of the First Crusade, which was a resounding success despite being clusterfuck that made the Iraq War look well thought out. +--- 58074569 +>>58074535 +>but by the early 300's they had surpassed it +And then promptly fell behind it for 1000 years. +--- 58074601 +>>58074569 +proofs? Why didn't Western armies in the 1300s proliferate the use of damasked steel if it's so good? +--- 58074622 +>>58074519 +It should be obvious that one of the most striking aspects of damascus steel is its appearance, regardless of its performance. That alone is a valid reason for it to be exported to Europe. +>>58074569 +Surely it doesn't jog your brain too much to realise he meant the 1300s with 300's? That's roughly when Europe's metalurgy began making huge leaps either way. +--- 58074644 +>>58074622 +>Surely it doesn't jog your brain too much to realise he meant the 1300s with 300's? +Nah, I thought he really did mean 300s. And he'd be right. The Roman Empire was making a fuckton of steel. Right up until they weren't. +--- 58074696 +>fucking horse archer shills on my /k/ +Well, time to kill them by the hundreds in Bannerlord again. +God Bless Vlandia. +--- 58074774 +>>58059906 (OP) +horseback archery evolved from the hunting styles of steppe peoples, with vast, vast swathes of open fields where just a few feet of clearance and enhanced mobility made all the difference. You can see this with the Mongols, Tartars, Huns, etc. + +tl;dr mounted archery wasn't a useful skill in places with mountains, swamps, dense forests, etc so it didn't get developed into a military style like it did in the Steppes. +--- 58075088 +>>58070562 +You didn't read my post thoroughly enough. I didn't say "immune," I said more resistant to logistical problems from vast distances than most other armies (including European ones), so trying to excuse their failures by saying Europe is "too far" is essentially just a cope. +--- 58075100 +>>58074696 +>bannerlord +Just two more weeks until finished +--- 58075146 +>>58075100 + +Too be fair its very playable for early access. +--- 58075298 +>>58075088 +Also, even if the Mongol forces in EE could be said to be "stretched thin" by their standards, they could still represent a significant force from the perspective of Europeans of the time, give the relatively small average size of medieval armies compared to what came before (Rome) and after (early modern era, Napoleonic period, etc). A few tens of thousands of men was a pretty serious fighting force in 13th century Europe. +--- 58075554 +>>58070219 +The only affluent population breeding above replacement rates are rural conservative whites in America, there are over 150 million of them and their birthrate is 2.7. The steppe seems to have had a birthrate crash in 2000 down to 2.0 but then it rebounded, but those whites have held the same birthrate for a century so they aren't going anywhere. +--- 58075673 +>>58074456 +>so you are telling me the people who controlled Persia, you know the place where Damascus steel was being forged, yeah those guys had inferior metallurgy to the Europeans who were importing it. +Yes, damascene steel was a lucky accident due to the ore there. +--- 58077197 +>>58074519 +>Many Persians were white +??? +????? +Of course it's a brownoid. Dunno why I even wondered. Only brownoids shill for horse archers and damasked steel +--- 58077252 +>>58077197 +>????? +>literal Aryans +>not white +lel +--- 58077293 +>>58077252 +Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Nordic. +None of the above? Not white. +Go pound sand, shitskin. +--- 58077300 +>>58077293 +you're so full of shit it stained your eyes brown +--- 58077316 +>>58077293 +This +>>58077252 +Finns are white but not Aryan, Persians are Aryan but not white. But yeah I agree with the other anon, my personal white definition is just Anglos, Danes and the Dutch +--- 58077325 +>>58077300 +Cry about it and keep LARPing, Mohamed. +Cope, seethe, sneed, dilate, etc. +--- 58077329 +>>58059906 (OP) +They did, they just never built their entire armies around it the way steppe peoples did. +--- 58077334 +>>58059906 (OP) +The climate fucks up the glue on those bows. They had a limited range for a reason. +--- 58077339 +>>58077316 +>Persians are Aryan but not white +correct, but they once were white. +--- 58077378 +>>58065705 +The French were terrified of armed peasants, the English weren't because even their rebellious peasants loved the king and just hated the men around him. +--- 58077386 +>>58077339 +>they once were white +>WE WUZ WHITE N SHIEEET +Pure, unadulterated brownoid cope. +--- 58077399 +>>58077386 +Says the mulatto with brown eyes. +--- 58077434 +>>58077399 +>Mohamed cope +How was prayer? Did you barter for your neighbors goat? +--- 58077448 +>>58077434 +>How was prayer? +Do you not pray today? I will pray for you. + +You may be a non-white, but you aspire to whiteness and that is good. +--- 58077460 +>>58077448 +>the brownoid also le reddit spaces +Double shitposter. +Nobody follows your dirt religion except your fellow brownoids mohamed, but enjoy. Hope you got a good deal on your goat. +--- 58077480 +>>58077460 + +>Nobody follows your dirt religion +Ah right, because popularity decides truth. You must be a woman then! +>Hope you got a good deal on your goat. +Thank you, I hope you eventually break free from the rentoid lifestyle and become able to own livestock as well. +--- 58077492 +>>58077480 +this much projection is crazy when like 90% of mudslimes under the age of 40 live with their parents still +--- 58077509 +>Muh Horse Archers +Every fucking time.If heavy cavalry is so bad why did every nomadic empire use it?Why did they create Cataphracts? +--- 58077522 +>>58077492 + +>sees strong family structure +>gets mad + +good luck with your corn syrup +--- 58077525 +>>58077480 +>woman +I’d be surprised if you could tell one apart from your goat. +>own livestock +Degrading way to refer to your family tbqh. +--- 58077532 +>>58077522 +>strong family structure +You squabble with your brown parents every day because you're too poor to sustain yourselves. I wish all mudslime trash died in nuclear fire. +--- 58077543 +>>58077532 + +It's hilarious you still think I'm a muslim. Though frankly I consider them as most certainly superior to an atheist like you who does not pray. +--- 58077565 +>>58077492 +It's more like their parents still live with them no? I thought that part of the world was all about members of the family across multiple generations all share the same house. In a way making the sons as much of an owner as the father and grandfather. Yes it's still thirdie shit at the end of the day but its also still comparing apples to oranges +--- 58077574 +>>58059906 (OP) +cause it's ineffective against a halfway competent opponent. +The huns who allegedly led to the downfall of rome, lost the only major battle to the romans, and couldn't break the roman line, which just formed a shieldwall and had archers with larger longer range bows behind it. +Similarly, the one country in main europe the mongols managed to plunder was hungary, because the king got scared and sat in a wagnofort. When some hungarian knights charged without orders, they easily slaughtered mongol cav. +>TLDR; Armor, shields, longbows are all hardcounters + +>main physical disadvantage +To be used on horseback, the bow must be small, thus, shorter range and force. In effect mongol tactics work for massacring barely dressed central asian peasants who havent fought a real war in a hundred years, but whenever the mongols ran into the Europeans or the japanese, they were generally slaughtered with ease + +>why didn't europe +it did. Not just horse archers, but horse crossbow and riflemen. The battlefield application is just very limited if you fight against a real army +--- 58077593 +>>58077532 +Ironically, that sort of arrangement has more in common with the old school american farmer way of living than it does leaving out at 18 to go rent an apartment in a city. Kind of hard to keep property in the family if the family isn't fucking there. +--- 58077625 +>>58077565 +>In a way making the sons as much of an owner as the father and grandfather. +Thirdie cope for being incapable of establishing independence on top of generational wealth. +>Mehmet, my son, we must live together to maintain our family and cultural traditions +>Also can you buy my medication? +--- 58077751 +>>58059906 (OP) +Subhuman-kun, Rome used composite bows. +More in the east admittedly, but they did. +Mounted medium cavalry with asymmetrical composite, sometimes. +--- 58078847 +>>58077625 +>incapable of establishing independence on top of generational wealth +exactly the opposite, dipshit +saving on housing costs and pooling overheads is one of the fastest and most assured ways to snowball generational wealth, cause each nuclear family doesn't have to shell out for a house unnecessarily and common areas / resources achieve higher utilisation rates +it's not a thirdie thing, peasants across the world have done this, and it'll be all the more important in "first worlds" like West Europe as housing skyrockets + +no wonder you're poor +--- 58079207 +>>58078847 +Poor brown hands living at home with mom typed this post. +--- 58079259 +>>58079207 +Yup. +I did buy a house though; rent it out to poor saps like you. +--- 58079349 +>>58079259 +>he invested in residential real estate instead of commercial +>and he brags about it +>while living with mommy and daddy +Lmao +It’s amazing how much you can glean from poor brown people when they try to brag. +Post skin and gun safe, poorfag. +--- 58079401 +>>58079349 +>look at my gacha collection, said the mutt, trying to larp +Oh sweaty, you can't fake it till you make it you know +Residential rents are going up while commercial brick and motor continues dying as online formats take over +You'd know this if you were anywhere near having a decent portfolio +Now run along back to your wagecuck job, I have a business to run +Toodles +--- 58079450 +>>58079401 +>noguns +>brown skin +>poor +>lives at home still +Cope: The Post +--- 58079493 +>>58079450 +If you own the house you moved out into, fine, but taking pride in paying rent is retarded +--- 58079515 +>>58079450 +Actually, I live at my granddad's house +We have been doing this a long time, and have gotten very good at it +Generational wealth, sweaty ;) +--- 58079544 +>>58079493 +Bought and paid in full, Anon. >>58079515 +>granddad’s house +Gross. This is why you losers continuously whine and bitch about never getting pussy. +>Y-yeah, haha, let’s go back to my place… hopefully pops isn’t still up watching the nightly news +One gun worth more than $2000 Anon, let’s see it. Just one. +--- 58079663 +>>58079544 +Why should I bitch? You think we live in a wooden cookie-cutter suburban shack like you Americans like to put up? Ours is a large country home, with land, extensions, dogs, privacy +I have one floor to myself, my own apartment, all mod cons; my parents have theirs on their floor, and ne'er shall twain meet if we don't wish it +My girl and I fuck whenever we like, and when we get married there's rooms for the children too +And all this cause our other properties are bringing in rent. Of course my parents can live in any one of their houses any time, or I can move out and live in the flat I bought, but why should I? +Got to keep the assets working yknow +And frankly it's more comfy here + +>One gun worth more than $2000 +Mmhmm +That what you spend your money on huh +Children's education paid for? +--- 58079751 +>>58079663 +>that rant +>that cope +Could have just saved time and told us you’re a noguns thirdie, Anon. +--- 58079835 +>>58079751 +>I-I-it can't be true +Seething lol + +Australian, actually. Can't be arsed to get the stuff out the safe, it's somewhere in the shed. I'm not the gun nut of the family. +--- 58079863 +Camel cavalry is superior to horses. + +>hardier than horses and consumes much less water and food and less picky about it's diet. +>larger wider feet than horses allowing to traverse sand and mud easier than horses. +>can carry 40% of body weight compared to only 20% of body weight for horses. +>large and strong enough to mount heavy siege weapons like ballistas and small cannons. +>taller than horses to give sight and melee advantage over horse cavalry. + +Camels rule and horses deserve to go the glue factory. +--- 58079978 +Aryans were the first to have domesticated animals which is why we can drink milk. Aryan Scythians were horseback archers. Also I dare all brown poos to read the indian rig vedas. They speak of invading aryans fair of cheeck driving out the dark skinned dasa natives who indra hates. +--- 58079984 +>>58060304 +>shoot the horse and kill/incapacitate it +>knight falls, breaks his neck on impact and is crushed by the horse +--- 58080365 +>>58079978 +>Aryans were the first to have domesticated animals which is why we can drink milk. +That's not true at all. There were at least two cattle domestications one occurring in India long before the Aryans, and one in the middle east. Likewise goats and sheep were domesticated in the middle east. + +Aryans however domesticated the horse and invented the wheel, we don't have to make up shit about our stone age ancestors they did plenty of things for real. +--- 58080825 +>>58068779 +lmao, this is pure christcvck cope. + +The Ottomans incentivized adopting islam and turkish culture and it happened quickly, no your religion isnt special. + +Btw in some cases local nobility weren't even required to adopt islam to keep their position. The idea that conquerors genocide everybody is really stupid, the whole point of taking over an empire is to take over an empire, not a wasteland. + +Also, just use your eyes, modern Turks and Greeks look identical +--- 58080868 +>>58080825 +>christcvck +Post gun +--- 58080886 +>>58069384 +Steppe horses were the best in the world. That was the Mongol's only real power. Chinese horses were swamp ponies that got wrecked in every battle. +--- 58080981 +>>58080886 +According to whom? Steppe horses were never considered good and their main positive trait was how easy it was to capture wild horses on the steppe since they bred so fast on it. But they never developed any true innovations when it came to breeding since it requires multiple generations of carefully culling weak young and feeding it a high protein diet which you'll never get a Turk or Mongol to do (white people just REALLY love horses), so while the west had huge warhorses that would charge a pike and then bite off the ears and noses of everyone it gets near to, you have basically ponies in the steppe who can barely support heavy armor on the rider, this is also why mongols needed soo many spare horses because they got fatigued fast by the rider. And also behold the main breed that would have constituted the Mongol horde, imagine trying to make that charge a line of heavy German pikemen, not happening. +--- 58081000 +>>58080981 +No, you're wrong. Don't know who the fuck told you this. Steppe horses were OP and the poorest Mongol had many of them. Chinese horses sucked and they always had to fear the steppe people because of it. +--- 58081004 +>>58080981 +Also in another timeline, we could have seen the equivalent of the American mustang on the steppe, but good Euro and Arab horses were so high valued, that they would never let one roam and breed like crazy in the wild, instead opting to work it till it fell dead. American mustangs are what you get when you introduce euro perfected horses into an steppe where they can actually breed and iron out the flaws not visible in settled society. +--- 58081007 +>>74625378 +batman +--- 58081010 +>>58081000 +You're wrong and have not showed anything that could prove it otherwise, nor could you since the only good native breeds are from central Asia and from Persian and Greek stock, not natural native to the steppe that does not favor strong horses since being tiny and fast breeding works better in a evolutionary sense +--- 58081035 +>>58079984 +>aim at horse +>hit horse plate armor +>get impaled by lance +there was an attempt... +--- 58081424 +I'm surprised that Chang over here hasn't started talking wonders about the miraculous Chinese super crossbows. diff --git a/k/58060819.txt b/k/58060819.txt index f43e35b0e7fa384b476f1e079988a5129f3cc0b8..251d49c8cd0feb845828e0ca111fc091b183fab9 100644 --- a/k/58060819.txt +++ b/k/58060819.txt @@ -217,3 +217,602 @@ Ian, stop posting --- 58070907 >>58070436 is that a snopes screenshot you faggot +--- 58071591 +>>58064935 +Based and true. +--- 58071600 +>>58068483 +The SKS isn't even the best combloc shitbox rifle. That award goes to the Vz. And no one can prove me otherwise. +--- 58071643 +>>58070436 +>this website on the internet told me this conspiracy theory was false +>see look I even have a screenshot + +JFC posting snopes in 2023. You are either 12 or 70, either way you do not belong here. +--- 58071758 +Oy vey, a gun that automatically reports you to police and collects your fingerprints automatically. +Make them free! +--- 58071942 +>>58070907 +>>58071643 +Snopes is a reasonable thing to send grandpa when he sends you things that are obviously false. +>>58068676 +It's sad to see your dementia progress this far. +>>58068622 +Checked +--- 58072018 +>>58069006 +Nah, nobody from the company cares about 4chan. It's posted here just to raise your blood pressure - which, coincidentally, is exactly why I ordered mine. +--- 58073205 +Adding herbs to this delicious post before it reaches page 10 (where it belongs) +--- 58073380 +I have to admit, I only ordered one because of how cool they look. Spacegat aesthetic can't be beat. +--- 58073586 +>>58071942 +The problem is snopes is full of things that are obviously false. It's effectively left leaning propaganda. +--- 58073623 +You realize these threads keep getting made because a few of you dumbasses have a shitfit that rivals a Facebook boomer. +--- 58073764 +>>58072018 +They clearly do care or they wouldn't keep posting thinly veiled ads here. +--- 58073777 +>>58073623 +>*posts stupid shit* +>you're a nigger +>LELELEL I TROLL YOU +--- 58073800 +>>58073586 +I believe you, but I'd be curious to see what what snopes has gotten wrong. They certainly have their shit together more than some anons here. Like, it's the bottom rung, most basic gramps-got-into-the-clickbait-again tier fact checking for elderly people who would otherwise send all their money to a Nigerian prince. +>>58073623 +There are literally Facebook boomers in this thread. See: +>>58068676 +>>58064935 +--- 58073801 +>>58071942 +Snopes is nigger faggot kike propaganda, and if you mention it for any reason except to reference a shining example of nigger faggot kike propaganda, you are a nigger faggot kike, too. +--- 58073814 +>>58073801 +Okay grandpa. We'll see you at Christmas. +--- 58073821 +>>58073800 +I know, and these threads keep happening because they can't control their emotions. +--- 58073842 +[removed] +--- 58073890 +[ Removed by Reddit ] +--- 58073907 +>>58063775 +He really got fucked by COVID and the Russian War. +Whatever backlog he had built up was totally burnt through, and it's not often that you can set up a trip to a museum to pick through their collection for whatever you think is most interesting to make videos on. +He probably had some kind of plan with Popenker in Russia with that book deal, but that got fucked up by the invasion. And making any videos *in* Russia even today would be career suicide. +Whatever happened with RIA is also an issue. Chances are they wanted him to upload his vids on their channel or to their website. As, without links in the description, the cross-site traffic they hoped to see most likely became nonexistent. + +So doing shill vids is basically the only way to keep the channel alive in the meant time. +What else is he going to do? Firearms history doesn't tend to generate new content on its own too often. +--- 58073981 +>>58065600 +Youtube no longer allows direct links to places to purchase firearms. +RIA's deal with Ian was based around, "sure we'll let you finger fuck these rare gats because you can get attention to our product". Without those direct links, the same attention just isn't there. +As well, RIA started their own YT channel, or at least started giving it a lot of focus (https://www.youtube.com/@RockIslandAuctionCompany/videos). They probably wanted Ian to upload his ForgottenWeapons episodes to their channel. Which makes sense for RIA, but isn't something anyone could agree to. + +Most likely simply a conflict of rational business interests between two parties. +--- 58073990 +>>58073981 +YouTube hasn't allowed direct links to gun website for years. This is not a new change. +--- 58074008 +[removed for violating Reddit's content ToS] +--- 58074028 +>>58063775 +I would love to see him go over to Japan and do some videos on their indigenous-designed rifles like the Type 64 and Type 89 +--- 58074031 +>>58073380 +I went for the desert planet look +--- 58074061 +>>58074028 +Japan gun people are the most autisitic of the autistic and I doubt their state armories they will let foreigners near the premises let alone fondle their indigenous assault rifles in front of a camera unless they have a level 75 black belt in Japanese, creditials out the ass, and the backing of some giant news corporation. +>but he could just talk about the hsioteya and do some interviews +No one wants to see that. They want gun porn. +--- 58074136 +>>58060819 (OP) +What optic should I get to go with mine? The built-in laser is a great idea, but I didn't see anything about an optics mount. Maybe that's something they'll ask about when they contact me about my grip profile (also a great idea) +--- 58074151 +This is the white man's gun +--- 58074160 +Mod Note: +Okay I was gonna let you all have your fun but I'm going to have to lock this thread because YALL CAN'T BEHAVE! We here at /r/liberalgunowners can tolerate a lot but when things get bigoted and homophobic it's time to pack it in and think about what you've done. Let me just cap this off by saying black lives matter, love is love, hate has no home here, he will not divide us, and trans rights are human rights!. Maybe next time yall will decide to be decent fucking human beings and we won't have to have this discussion again. Until then get boosted and science bless you all. +--- 58074189 +>this enrages the boomer +--- 58074200 +>>58074151 +You know I got that snowbunny on me (or I will in Q1 2024) +--- 58074223 +>>58074200 +This is the exclusive “launch” option and I think it looks the worst of all available options. The exclusive “expert” option that’s all FDE looks bad too +--- 58074227 +>>58068159 +It's one guy shilling it because he's either trolling or on the company's payroll. +You can add the gun to your car and preview the order before you pay. That's where all the screenshots of the invoices are coming from. No one is actually paying 1400 dollars for a gun that doesn't work when the power goes out. +--- 58074265 +>the government will be able to shut it down +>because THEY JUST DO OKAY +--- 58074280 +I just want more videos of mechanically interesting historical guns, half the vids now are hawking new guns or larperator match videos +--- 58074287 +>>58074265 +The government literally controls your electricity supply. In California the state turns off the power grid all the time because their shitty infrastructure keeps sparking wildfires. No electricity=dead battery=no gun. This isn't even getting into wireless killswitch shit which they absolutely will put into the gun without telling you. +--- 58074297 +>>58074227 +That’s not how it works sweaty + +Besides, it’s really not that big of a deal to drop a refundable $150 to preorder a gun +--- 58074308 +>>58074227 +>no one is actually paying 1400 for a gun +>that's a whole month of social security checks +Maybe your kids will buy you one (if they still talk to you) +--- 58074311 +>>58073907 +I cant be sure how much is this just talks or true, but read that the falling out with RIA was mostly large set of small-ish issues and then one day Ian was trying to buy out gun directly from the owner bypassing the auction to save money i guess in a epicly retarded way +he supposedly got called out for it and told he is not welcome anymore +--- 58074318 +>>58074287 +You're just reaching and searching for ways to get mad at something you'll never buy +--- 58074324 +>>58074287 +Yeah I'm thinking meds +--- 58074334 +>>58074311 +From what I've gathered from my memory that's just some shit made up by people who would spam /k/ with Ian bad threads. +--- 58074343 +Really looking forward to some dork not updating his firmware on one of the 3rd party sensors and some asshole with a script kiddy toy quietly perma-disables his shit. + +I'm not a total cunt. I understand how not wanting to reduce small child accidents is a good thing. But fucking facial recognition + finger print sensors? Are you fucking kidding me? +--- 58074344 +I am still waiting for a video on biatlon rifles Ian promissed ages ago and main reason for waiting was "i live in desert there is no biatlon here" +--- 58074347 +>>58074297 +It is how it works. +--- 58074360 +>>58060819 (OP) +It literally costs more than an antique broom in VG condition +Why would you spend that much money when a 200$ LCP is just as good +--- 58074363 +>>58074334 +It's highly possible, i actually like most of Ians content so im not incluned to dig into these too much +--- 58074364 +>>58074324 +>>58074318 +>>58074308 +>>58073800 +>>58073623 +>>58071942 +Destroying gun rights to own the imaginary boomer fudds. Awesome! +--- 58074368 +>>58074344 +Can't he do a running biathlon (summer biathlon) in that case? +--- 58074371 +>>58074360 +--- 58074388 +>>58074364 +>Posts soijaks because he can't win an internet argument +--- 58074395 +>>58074318 +>*company invents stupid product* +>"this is a stupid product" +>"PFFT! YOU'RE- YOU'RE JUST MAD!" +You're the one who's emotionally invested in a gun that's doesn't work without electricity because you're so preoccupied with "owning" the boomers that live rent free in your head. Smartguns are dumb guns and you're a dumb person. +--- 58074404 +>>58074395 +If it's so stupid why is there such massive interest on /k/? +--- 58074410 +>>58074363 +Take what I say with a grain of salt but I believe it's because ria wanted him to only work with them without signing an exclusivity deal or something. +--- 58074411 +>>58074371 +I’d trust the 100 year old Mauser that tried to bite off my thumb and jams when dirty more than bootleg iPhone gun +--- 58074419 +>>58074371 +The c96 doesn't need to charge for 3 hours to fire +--- 58074433 +>>58074404 +You're a cheeky one. +--- 58074434 +>>58074395 +Nice ad hominem and twitter tier smug reaction image. +--- 58074436 +>>58074395 +>stop talking about that gun in particular because it HURTS MY FEELINGS and also DESTROYS MY RIGHTS +>Of course I don't know how it works. Why would I need to? +>>58074223 +Their FDE looks a little darker than other FDE to me, so I went with all black. +--- 58074439 +>>58074411 +>>58074419 +How's the ol' ball and chain? +--- 58074440 +>>58074368 +Fuck if i know +these guns are expensive and kind of rare, true, but compared to most of his content it should be very easy to at least get hands on one +maybe he wants to make "look at me, im trying to do biatlon" video right after the tear-down one +might be even more interesting than anothe brutality video, ugh +--- 58074441 +>>58060819 (OP) +This is going to be the Hudson H9 2.0 +--- 58074453 +>>58074439 +She left me years ago +--- 58074458 +>>58074441 +Yes except all the hudson 9s in existence still function to this day. When the company folds and stops updating the firmware all 12 people who bought one of these are going to find it bricked within 6 months. +--- 58074469 +>>58074410 +Yea, in the end its private stuff between then and none of us can really know what happened +its still shame tho +--- 58074474 +>>58074458 +You're absolutely right but you still type like someone who is visibly angry. +--- 58074484 +>>58074458 +>yeah but in 6 months they will take away your firmware +>no, I'm not going to google 'firmware', that's reptilian propaganda +--- 58074491 +>>58074436 +>stop criticizing this gun in particular because it HURTS MY FEELINGS +--- 58074517 +>>58074439 +What does that mean? +--- 58074528 +>"innovation" in 2023 is just shoving a circuit board and battering into a thing that already exists adding extra points of failure in the process +I hate this future. I want my fucking hover car god dammit +--- 58074581 +>>58060819 (OP) +This is the first gun I've been excited for in a long time. I'd also order a rifle version if they made one. +--- 58074807 +>smart gun thread +>frogposter loves it +--- 58074878 +>>58074347 +No, it’s not. The reservation email looks a lot different than the cart +--- 58074901 +>>58074436 +Plain black is so boring though +--- 58074913 +The jailbreak/full auto is going to happen so fast, this thing has an electric trigger. Who said this is a fed dream again? +--- 58074992 +>>58074913 +I ordered mine for the jailbreak. +--- 58075030 +>>58074992 +>>58074913 +Since there are no parts modification is a full auto hack legal? +--- 58075038 +>>58075030 +Obviously not legal but practically impossible to detect if done well. +--- 58075052 +>>58074136 +Great question. Email them and let us know. +--- 58075080 +>>58075030 +How could the feds even check? The gun will only shoot for me. +--- 58075082 +>>58060819 (OP) +I’m sure it is a great product for the target market: People who want a gun for home defense but never actually practice. I’m super skeptical of the reliability of this gun even with its double ID features, but I feel safer knowing the ‘yards who’d most likely end up shooting themselves with a working gun are the ones buying this brick +--- 58075099 +>>58075080 +>>58075038 +Can you get an extended mag? It might be pretty good with one after all +--- 58075219 +>>58075080 +Even better, have it factory reset if someone else picks it up +>captcha: SHOT8 +--- 58075260 +>>58060819 (OP) +Trash gun shill at it again. You will not last you shill. Every shill succumbs and quits. Every stupid poster does too. You know how mamy times some annoying ass says im here to stay get used to it before they never post again lmao its been happening for longer than youve had your job. You will not win. +--- 58075312 +>>58075260 +Yep, he's mad +--- 58075360 +>>58060819 (OP) +I’ve watched all the videos. My takeaway is that this is made by a very smart company to appeal to a very stupid audience. We’ve all seen the mouth breathers at the range or in CCW classes who can barely operate their guns. They want the protection afforded by a gun but can’t be assed to practice and are still scared by the very gun they own. + +This very smart company interviewed these idiots and made a product they are going to lap up. +--- 58075550 +>>58074287 +Actually the state very rarely does it, it's the privatized power companies (mostly PG&E and Edison) that account for most of the blackouts. I live in a city with its own DWP and my power is very reliable and way cheaper than in private territory too. +--- 58075590 +Idk why but I'm more and more convinced that there is not a single person on this site who actually knows anything about tech. Don't tell me /g/ knows anything when all they do is shit fling about Linux while being jobless. +--- 58075600 +>>58075590 +>just now figuring out that 4chan is retarded +The ironing +--- 58076463 +>>58063775 +Ian worked for IRA? +--- 58077062 +>>58076463 +Are you dyslexic o just dumb? +--- 58077330 +>>58074913 +Electrically actuated, or is there just an electronically controlled trigger lock? +Big difference there. +--- 58077354 +>>58077330 +The first one. +--- 58077579 +>>58069006 +>without realizing that that exact demographic has every reason to despise their product. +Idk, 'nobody can use my gun but me' seems right up /k/'s alley +--- 58077705 +>>58073907 +>He probably had some kind of plan with Popenker in Russia with that book deal, but that got fucked up by the invasion. +Not the invasion, even. Remember when he was fixing to publish that Swede's memoir, 5 minutes before the invasion when Azov was still evil nazis? Popenker posted that the book deal was on hold during that. +--- 58077874 +>>58077330 +According to Ian's video, they went with an actual electrically-actuated firing mechanism, to prevent the obvious bypass potential of an electrically-blocked mechanism. + +I remain skeptical, because I genuinely don't understand the reasoning -- if someone steals your gun and gets it to a workbench, they're gonna make it work for them eventually. Whether that's by grinding off the blocking dingus, by reflashing it with custom firmware, or by bodge-wiring the sear solenoid straight to the trigger microswitch makes no difference -- the only reasonable goal is to make it take 15 minutes instead of 15 seconds. +--- 58077901 +>>58074360 +That's a very pleasant color on your kitteh. +--- 58078001 +>>58074441 +Good, that's what I want and expect. +--- 58078033 +>>58077874 +>if someone steals your gun and gets it to a workbench, they're gonna make it work for them eventually. +I don't even like the gun, but that's not even the market. This is aimed at people who want a gun more accessible than a nightstand safe but don't want their toddler an heroing, or people who think in the moment of home defense they might end up in a struggle where somebody takes the gun from them and turns it around. +I'm not a fan of this gun and could make arguments against both the above, but I'm at least understanding what its going for. This isn't meant to defeat the hoards of tech nerd crackheads who are breaking into houses and reinstalling firmware on peoples' stuff. +--- 58078311 +>>58078033 +>This is aimed at people who want a gun more accessible than a nightstand safe but don't want their toddler an heroing, or people who think in the moment of home defense they might end up in a struggle where somebody takes the gun from them and turns it around. +AKA it's aimed at RETARDS and that's why it will fail. +--- 58078344 +>>58078311 +Lol. Making a stupid product to sell to stupid people is a smart business move. You understand how many stupid people there are? +Appeal to what dumbasses want and market it right and you’ll make gorillions. +--- 58078377 +>>58078344 +Those stupid people are the ones who are going to get our rights infringed, so we have every reason to relentlessly and mercilessly mock them and tell them they are stupid and why. +--- 58078540 +>>58060819 (OP) +>advertising questionable vaporware +>vaporware that could fuck over the entire gun dealer community in NJ +--- 58078549 +>>58078033 +>This is aimed at people who want a gun more accessible than a nightstand safe but don't want their toddler an heroing, or people who think in the moment of home defense they might end up in a struggle where somebody takes the gun from them and turns it around. +No shit. So why the fuck is "to make it harder to defeat on a workbench" a justification for the firing mechanism? You aren't worried about your toddler disassembling it, defeating the interlock, and reassembling it, and when Jaquan gets no results from pulling the trigger, his next move is caving your skull in with the thing, not tinkering with it while fending you off with one arm. + +So if they are lying about the reasons for design choices, I don't trust they're being honest about how it actually works either. + +>I'm at least understanding what its going for. +Me too. Too bad you aren't understanding posts you reply to. +--- 58078566 +>>58078377 +The people you are hating on are going to take your hate as an endorsement of their decision. +This will get pitched as the "mature, adult" choice of gun. It will start to sell well. Other gun companies will start to imitate it pursuing a higher profit margin. In 10 years, all handguns in local gunshops will be $3000 smartguns or Hi-Point. You cannot escape. +--- 58078691 +>>58060819 (OP) +This is the perfect gun to protect my wife’s son! +--- 58078695 +>>58078566 +Not if nobody buys it. People that don't like guns and gun rights don't buy guns. And people who do won't buy this either. That's why posts like >>58068181 are so goofy, because they assume there's a demand for this and that people are going to be tripping over themselves trying to get these when nothing in reality supports it. The gun community has verbally rebuked the idea for years and every previous attempt to bring it to market failed probably due to the rebuke. So what good reason is there to think this time is different? +--- 58078726 +a gun that only fired when i wanted to would be awesome, and im willing to let everyone else test it for me first +--- 58079034 +>>58071600 +Still one of my favorites. +Rolling. +--- 58079037 +>>58078566 +It's more like this is the first fuel-efficient SUV on the market, and everyone with a pickup truck is feeling threatened. Trucks didn't go away, but some of their features made it to a broader market. +--- 58079176 +>>58078695 +>Not if nobody buys it. People that don't like guns and gun rights don't buy guns. And people who do won't buy this either. +I ordered one lol, which group am I in? +--- 58079179 +>>58079176 +Neither, because you didn't order one. +--- 58079222 +>>58079179 +--- 58079291 +>>58060819 (OP) +I really wish the Deep State’s division of Big Hat would stop shoving face recognition tech into every conceivable item. It blows my mind that people happily accept facial recognition tech. +>B-b-b-but the gun’s docking station isn’t connected to the internet +>trust me bro +--- 58079402 +>>58074528 +You basically just described modern cars +--- 58079408 +>>58068676 +Are you going to shoot that mountain or are you suffering from first person shooter syndrome? +--- 58079411 +>>58074913 +>tfw we do inadvertently get the Lawgiver +--- 58079491 +>>58060819 (OP) +Buy an ad +--- 58079587 +>>58064935 +>Colorado smart thermostats being turned off without customers consent, +By whom and how? +--- 58079638 +>>58079587 +Xcel lets you opt into a program where they can make adjustments to your temperature in an energy emergency, in exchange for a credit on your bill. One 90 degree summer day, some customers had their thermostats set to 78 degrees. That's all that happened. Letting that anon have internet access is elder abuse. +--- 58079662 +>>58079638 +Ok. I actually live in CO, but I hadn't heard of that. We have a swamp cooler, anyway. +--- 58079705 +>>58079662 +I'd never used a swamp cooler until I went to visit my cousins in CO. It was absolutely comfy. +You haven't heard of this program because it's not a big deal. +https://co.my.xcelenergy.com/s/residential/heating-cooling/ac-rewards +--- 58080294 +dystopian nightmare fuel +--- 58080599 +>>58079638 +78 degree air conditioning is basically no air conditioning. +--- 58080667 +>>58074913 +>>58074992 +>buy a gun +>remove the only feature it's heingnsold for +Or you could make a glock switch out of 20 cents of sheet metal. +--- 58080677 +>>58065234 +The azov book was such a strike of bad luck. The guy almost gets canceled for making a book about reee muh ebil nazis, folds and burries everything and the whole ordeal is quickly forgotten. Then two weeks later the azov batallion become the heroes of the western world. What a bad timing. +--- 58080695 +>>58079638 +Actually the program was opt-out and you couldn't opt out during the same billing period so people found out they were enrolled in this program in the middle of summer and couldn't use their AC for a month. +--- 58080709 +>>58080677 +Maybe if he had some conviction and actually stuck to his decisions instead of going with the wind he wouldn't have had an issue. +>oh no, people are calling me names on the internet! Quick! Scrap the lucrative business deal! +--- 58080727 +>>58077579 +>doesn't work without electricity +>trusting your life to a fingerprint scanner +Yeah bro so /k/ +--- 58080730 +>>58074028 +That would be some real cool stuff. Literally unknown here in the west +--- 58080734 +>>58080294 +Dystopian soimare fuel +--- 58080743 +>>58080727 +>with a fingerprint scanner +and the backup facial recognition camera you neglected to mention +--- 58080745 +>>58063775 +deets on what happened with RIA? And, do I remember correctly that something fell through with the other auction house, James D. Julia? +--- 58080760 +>>58068295 +I want to love C&Rsenal, but there are only so many hour long Luger variant episodes I can stomach +--- 58080769 +>>58074318 +>>58074324 +"The gun needs electricity to work" is not a schizo conspiracy theory. You're adding a whole other resource and supply system that has to work before your can shoot your gun. It's fucking retarded. It's like making a gas powered wristwatch. It is silly and frankly bad because they're trying to sell it to people who are too retarded to know any better. +--- 58080773 +>>58064988 +Russians have been paying far right and far left to fuck shit up though. +--- 58080776 +>>58080769 +Worse, aren't they trying to gain a monopoly in New Jersey because of that retarded law? +--- 58080797 +>>58080743 +Woah it has a SECOND BACKUP ELECTRICAL SYSTEN THAT'S ARGUABLY LESS RELIABLE?! Wow that will assuage ALL of /k/'s fears and suspicions! +No one on /k/ is buying this as a defensive gun. Some /g/eeks might buy it because "muh cybperpunks" but they're going to use it as a toy to fuck around with meaning the necessity of the biometrics systems is completely redundant since it's going to be sitting in a safe as a range toy instead on it's gay iPhone charging station in easy reach of anyone who walks in. +--- 58080807 +>>58080776 +Likely yes. NJ changed their law specifically to "encourage the development of smart tunz" because no one wanted to be the company that got pistols banned in an entire state. Now that these faggots have a meme gun up and running the NJ government is likely to revert the law and ban all handguns but this peice of shit. +--- 58080819 +>>58080743 +The facial scanner doesn't work without electricity either, genius. +--- 58080846 +>>58080776 +Oh and even without any changes to the law every gun shop in NJ sill legally HAVE to buy one of these and have it avaliable for sale. So these fags are profiteering off gun control laws at the expense of local FFLs in a state where it already costs thousands yearly just to be an FFL. They're assholes using an unconstitutional legal mandate to turn a profit and they and anyone who supports them should be bullied relentlessly. +--- 58080874 +>>58080745 +James D Julia got bought by Morphy a couple years ago; he's still working with them under that name. +--- 58080911 +>>58080797 +>>58080819 +And a gunpowder-based firearm DOESN'T rely on parts (literally several) all successfully working together to function? But a fucking battery failing to supply power for some reason is "too many points of failure to depend on." lol + +This is the same seethe happening right now over ICE vs E-vehicles. Admit already that it has nothing to do with fears over the reliability of the device actually working when it needs to and everything to do with fears over looking like you have training wheels on your bike in front of muh beloved gun-community. +--- 58080942 +>Admit some bullshit that I just made up +No +--- 58080961 +oh shoot, I know the guy on the left +--- 58081022 +>>58080911 +You're a nigger kike shill arguing in bad faith. Adding electronics to a modern handgun adds exponentially more points of failure while offering little to no benefit. How about YOU admit that your desperate need for people on /k/ to like this peice of shit gun stems not from its value as a toll but form YOUR irrational fetish for technology to pervade every aspect of your life? Go tape LEDs onto a Glock if you want a cyberpunk gun so bad, retard. +--- 58081027 +>>58060819 (OP) +>New exciting Biofire video just dropped! +>New exciting +Yeah you buttfucker. That lingo sounds absolutely 100% 4chan natural. +Get the fuck off this board you dirty marketing shill. +--- 58081047 +58080911 +>Admit already that it has nothing to do with fears over the reliability of the device actually working when it needs to and everything to do with fears over looking like you have training wheels on your bike in front of muh beloved gun-community. +--- 58081053 +>>58081047 +nobody looks like this +--- 58081095 +>>58080942 +>>58081022 +>>58081047 +Really struck a nerve, huh. I really didn't think I was that spot on. Now I know +--- 58081105 +>>58080743 +so wait, a kid can just pick up the gun, point the back at their sleeping parent and be able to shoot it lol. +--- 58081125 +>>58080911 +lol, S&W couldn't even add a built in lock without it fucking up occasionally. Do you really think that adding a bunch of electrical components won't impact the reliability? +--- 58081135 +>>58081105 +People typically sleep with their eyes closed, not open. +--- 58081151 +>>58081135 +its facial recognition, not a retina scanner +--- 58081154 +>>58081135 +>blink +>gun doesn't work +Seems like a flaw +--- 58081164 +>>58081095 +>he replied to every reply. +Really struck a nerve, huh. I really didn't think I was that spot on. Now I know. +--- 58081187 +>>58080743 +wait don't a lot of those facial recognition systems have issues where peoples kids can unlock them? I know at least that is a problem with iphones. Are you going to have normies leaving guns out because they think it is safe but their toddler can just pick it up and shoot? +--- 58081189 +>>58064988 +idk who it was but this did happen +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack +--- 58081236 +>>58081151 +>its facial recognition, not a retina scanner +Current IPhones by default do not open with FaceID unless your eyes are open. You have to go into settings to change it to be able to open your phone with eyes closed + +>>58081154 +>blink +Blinking lasts between 0.1-0.4 seconds according to google. Aiming at a target unless you are cowboy drawing takes at the very minimum 0.5 seconds. So yes, if you are the slowest blinker in your state and are moving your arms through Jello, you might have a .0000000000001% higher risk of not getting a shot off +--- 58081270 +>>58081236 +but does the gun check for that? +--- 58081295 +>>58081236 +You wouldn't have to worry about any of this if you just bought a normal gun. +--- 58081305 +>this fucking company is telling people it's okay to leave a loaded handgun in access of children because they stapled an iPhone faced system onto it +Hope they get sued. +--- 58081365 +>>58081295 +>wouldn't have to worry about this +It was sarcasm. I wasn't worried. I would however have to worry if my kid picked up my firearm or had to open a safe while someone is breaking through the window +--- 58081548 +>>58060819 (OP) +what's the point of an electric gun if it doesn't shoot electric bullets +--- 58081562 +>>58081365 +Train your fucking kids, mongoloid. I had access to unsecured guns and ammo from 10 years old onward and I never shot myself or any of my family because I had a fucking father figure. +--- 58081629 +>>58060819 (OP) +This gun is incredibly niche and kind of dumb. I was promised flying cars, I got ugly guns solving a problem that could be addressed any number of uncucked ways. +Oh well. +--- 58081687 +>>58081562 +You wouldn't have to worry about father figures if you just bought a biometric gun +--- 58081746 +>>58081629 +The average American can barely afford a brand new car. How the fuck are you incentivize and normalize billions of people purchasing a brand new aircraft? The technology has been there forever, what is holding it back is cost and conventions + +https://evtol.news/xpeng-voyager-x2 +--- 58081788 +>>58081746 +The problem isn't cost, actually. It's people. The only way we'll ever accept Bubba McFuckstick flying around over residential areas is with some sort of invisible fencing that restricts air traffic to "lanes" and limits your control of the actual craft. That's not as easy as it sounds. +But, back on topic, this gun dumb. diff --git a/k/58061377.txt b/k/58061377.txt index 398f1f9ed5d129ca5fa050adcb032d937202167c..95d4e9e70e07475dd5574b6d760856f54116acff 100644 --- a/k/58061377.txt +++ b/k/58061377.txt @@ -232,3 +232,145 @@ No motive. Russia can never aspire to produce a free society its Asiatic culture >The aftermath is grim as fuck. Link? I can only cum to dead commies. +--- 58071248 +>>58061416 +Well, he IS a pickled gherkin. +--- 58071253 +>>58071248 +>the DPR leader turns himself into a pickle +>he's called... Igor Pickle +>Funniest shit I ever seen, blyat +--- 58071336 +>>58061727 +they obviously reached an agreement. Russia can leave unmolested, Ukraine gets Kherson +--- 58071368 +>>58061727 +>Ukraine let ALL of the Russian elite units and their equipment just slip away across the river +Don't you mean "down the river"? +--- 58071521 +>>58066860 +They still have a decent amount of T-72s. According to satellite images they’re almost halfway through the tanks that are at least seemingly in good condition though +--- 58071551 +>>58061727 +>hold an entire city hostage +>ukraine is not russia so they're not willing to kill a bunch of civilians if they can avoid it +>xaxaxaxa hohols allowed russia to escape they are so stupid! +--- 58071640 +>>58062925 +>Budanov memes are taking off. + +It's just as planned. +--- 58071657 +>>58071368 +Jesus christ +--- 58071664 +>>58067071 +It's not an actual train. In Germany just like in Russia a fire train describes a group of fire fighters and vehicles that are capable of fighting fire of a certain size. if there is a really big fire you have to pull together multiple fire trains +--- 58071665 +>>58069585 +>No motive +Except there actually is. +The support of the war is very low and there are a lot of people who don't like their brothers from Ukraine getting killed. +--- 58071672 +>>58061377 (OP) +>the gloves are coming off + +Is this the last cope? +--- 58071679 +So what targets have been hit so far? + +Also Putin's reaction to everything in Russia blowing up: + +https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/4a787b5f-8db1-492a-bf53-ca4aa1e56839 +--- 58071694 +>>58071665 +>their brothers from Ukraine +Are there really any ukrainians or russians left who genuinely believe this shit? +--- 58071702 +>>58071694 +What do you mean? People understand everything, and a lot of Ukrainians / Russian were friends before the war and remained that way. +--- 58071706 +>>58071702 +>People understand everything + +Oh I see, carry on. +--- 58071709 +>>58071706 +I don't get your point, whatever dude. +--- 58071726 +>>58066819 +Russian humor is so weird i really dont understand it. Even chinese tiktoks are funny. +--- 58071770 +>>58071694 +Many Russians have blood relatives that are Ukrainian. +--- 58071785 +>>58071770 +That doesn't seem to matter much to them, does it? +--- 58071819 +>>58071785 +It does, who told you it doesn't? +--- 58071832 +>>58071819 +The 75 or so people who were killed or wounded in russia's missile barrage last night +--- 58071854 +>>58071832 +Hm, did I ask you this? I don't really get your point. +Why did you tell me that and what's your question? +Some guy above said: +>>58069585 +>No motive +He was wrong, there is plenty of mentioned above. What's your question? +--- 58072041 +>>58071709 +The point is that you were attempting to talk sense to a Polish person, the dumbest of all the slavs. +--- 58072048 +>>58072041 +Oi I'm a Bong +--- 58072067 +>>58072048 +It's always one of those two stoking divisions and trying to get people to hate each other so there will be more war. I don't think the British people were ever happier than during the blitz. +--- 58072089 +>>58071819 +You don't have many Ukie friends, do you? +--- 58072095 +>>58072089 +Internet "friends" are not real friends, buddy. Your discord chat doesn't count as knowing people. +--- 58072624 +>>58067512 +not in russia yet +--- 58073839 +>>58061377 (OP) +>ywn drive around ussr in a Lada and drone/molotove shit up while fsb pursuit is three timezones back +--- 58073912 +>>58067005 +I was born ready +--- 58073929 +>>58071726 +>something bad happend! +>well it wasn't to me +--- 58075002 +>>58071368 +>McDonald's Temporarily closed +--- 58075022 +>>58071368 +why does everyone have a phone on? don't they know the enemy is watching and listening? +--- 58075028 +>>58067681 +They will just bombard civilian targets again and claim it was "a retaliation targeting highest value military targets and command facilities" aka commie blocks, open and crowded shopping malls, babushka's backyard outdoor shitters +--- 58075040 +>>58073839 +>fsb pursuit is three timezones back +internal soviet style security checkpoints when? +--- 58076944 +>>58071368 +--- 58077879 +>>58066819 +the ass is in the ass +--- 58078596 +>>58061584 +>>58061631 +They had two final assembly lines during Soviet era. In Kiev and in Ulyanovsk, Russia. Not sure about production breakdown between two factories. Russia has had plans to re-start production in Ulyanovsk since late 2000's, but all that imploded once they occupied Crimea and building of new aircraft hasn't happened as that would require lots of Ukrainian shit or Russians to develop local replacement that shit. Russian air force has been able overhaul and modernize about dozen of their aircraft, with another dozen in mothballs. Russian cargo airline VolgaDnepr also has dozen aircraft, more on order if Russians manage re-start production, but there is a catch, they have rejected the modernization Russian air force ordered and prior to invasion were negotiating with General Electric for new engines and getting western avionics from various suppliers. +--- 58081672 +>>58071368 +>>58076944 +add this diff --git a/k/58062014.txt b/k/58062014.txt index fbf45afbec354ecb2ab221035f51242552face05..d82fb2b8669671b6c52bb9b6cf573b0e80b97fd2 100644 --- a/k/58062014.txt +++ b/k/58062014.txt @@ -62,3 +62,89 @@ I don't mind derringers, just that bond ones suck major dick. It's supposed to be a small easy to hide thing, not a fucking brick just drilled out to different calibers. Also the .45/.410 in a handgun meme. +--- 58072215 +>>58067162 +--- 58072314 +my buddy has the papa bear and we used .410 buckshot; honestly one blast from that is enough to clear a hall in a house. +--- 58072326 +>>58071816 +https://www.detonics.com/en/news-detonics-europe-supports-ukraine-26 + +faggots +--- 58072355 +>>58072326 +Yeah well lots of czech still hate russian cuz of the history so they suck ukranian dicks sadly... +--- 58072419 +>>58064506 +God i fucking hate you norwegians +--- 58072442 +>>58062014 (OP) +--- 58072446 +>>58062014 (OP) +F +--- 58072450 +>>58062014 (OP) +Knock knock crash +--- 58072460 +>>58062014 (OP) +>>58067640 +Shut up imbecile you know nothing +--- 58072478 +>>58067162 +>Put a .50 caliber hole in two attackers +>disappear in the cloud of smoke. +--- 58072522 +>>58067162 +>>58072215 +I need the full comic again. I've only seen it like, once, 8 years or something ago +--- 58072531 +>>58072522 +Had to dig a bit, but seems the only place the whole thing's uploaded is here: +https://neilblr.com/post/58490668107 +--- 58072687 +>>58072531 +You are a gentleman and a scholarl +--- 58072716 +>>58067162 +THERE HAS NEVER ONCE BEEN A RECORDED INSTANCE OF THREE ATTACKERS, OR OF TWO SHOTS MISSING + +I IDENTIFY AS A SASSY OLD WESTERN SOCIALITE AND IT WOULD DESTROY ME MENTALLY IF DRESSING AND ARMING MYSELF AS ONE WAS IN ANY WAY DISADVANTAGEOUS +--- 58072805 +>>58072716 +you can hide a pretty big gun, or a small arsenal, under the poofy skirt. Very roomy. +--- 58073009 +>>58072805 +Also women get an extra pocket. +--- 58073193 +>>58072442 +>>58072446 +>>58072450 +>>58072460 +>he think that once a criminal is "in play" they absolutely won't stop fighting until you or they are dead like some video game NPC +>rather than the reality that they all start running once the shooting starts even if they have guns +--- 58074812 +>>58067162 +Shoot the guy with the gun, take his gun, use it to shoot the extras. Duh. +--- 58076177 +>>58073193 +Criminals not wanting too much trouble is the norm, but not guaranteed. Even if running from gunshots was the top choice of 100% of criminals, they may happen to be cornered, which means plan b. +--- 58077769 +>>58062014 (OP) +Rittenhouse needed like 7 and there were still multiple attackers who were only deterred because he still had bullets +>>58069051 +Rittenhouse team away, the attacker caught up, he popped that attacker, then ran away again, then had to deal with several other attackers +--- 58078986 +>>58062014 (OP) +fuck off nogunz +--- 58079031 +>>58073193 +>coming onto 4chin, promoting your bullshit +That's kjnd of sad m80 +--- 58079314 +>>58079031 +>noooo this is my safe space where you need to pretend that niggers behave like video game NPCs +--- 58079594 +Why does this autistic fuck keep spamming threads about derr*ngers? +--- 58079618 +>>58072442 +Same energy diff --git a/k/58062080.txt b/k/58062080.txt index 91b3c7b5d0d40be553b9072cc8e014aa6ec93b7f..23d1c4f40698d9765271e6c13169143ed3b2d71a 100644 --- a/k/58062080.txt +++ b/k/58062080.txt @@ -253,3 +253,244 @@ I kneel --- 58070019 >>58070006 I can't look at this image without immediately thinking about the golden ratio +--- 58071178 +>>58064650 +Fuck I didn't notice :DD Must have been a happy accident I'm sure :^) +--- 58071900 +>>58070019 +What's the golden ratio even supposed to mean? Like, how do you make one? I've looked at some pics with the spiral on it but I don't really get what it's outlining if that makes sense. Is it how much stuff is in a given area? Is it where your eyes are supposed to be drawn to? Please explain for an artlet. +--- 58072759 +>>58071900 +basically its a spiral made by the most irrational number called Phi, a bit like Pi, and it crops up everywhere in nature so our brains look for it subconsciously. Its the ratio that makes (a+b)/a and a/b the same. +--- 58072852 +>>58072759 +The image you posted it on has nothing to do with he golden ratio though. +--- 58072911 +>>58070019 +>Line going along .... and ... terminating in focal point of the image ... an arm +--- 58073128 +What if I lured an ATF agent to my house under criminal pretenses and then keep her in my house until she agrees to be my wife? +--- 58073215 +English girls +--- 58073369 +>>58073215 +Pekoe! +--- 58073435 +>>58073215 +There's not a single Brit in your pic. +--- 58073551 +>>58072852 +i have posted no images in this thread :) +--- 58073579 +>>58073215 +Why do they look like literal children? +--- 58073830 +>>58073128 +>hey officer, I think I saw someone carry an M1A into the back of this inconspicuous unmarked van, and they were wearing shoes with laces; you'd better check it out just in case +--- 58074679 +Bucky enters your office with orders to join your command, she brings three siblings. + +What do you do? +--- 58074801 +>>58074679 +>HEY +>BUKKI +Release Kongou on them. +--- 58074834 +>>58074801 +I give 90% chances of Bongo launching herself at her teitoku instead. +--- 58074885 +>>58074834 +Is that a bad thing? +--- 58074949 +>>58074885 +depends on which floor your office is on I guess +--- 58074956 +>>58067964 +>FAL in 7x49mm Poliviano +--- 58074990 +>>58074834 +>Iowa said that Kongous bongos are a sight to see +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft-BPYbUNsU [Embed] +--- 58075128 +Machine guns always strike me as something you'd absolutely hate to carry around but something you'd absolutely love to have when it's time to shoot +--- 58075200 +>>58074990 +>Weeb parody song where the singer doesn't sound like he isn't completely tone deaf and singing quietly from his mothers basement +Based +--- 58075255 +>>58075128 +There's a reason why we give them to the angriest and smallest guy. He's pissed off at having to carry around such a big and heavy load and he's going to share his frustrations with you at 700 rounds per minute +--- 58075502 +>>58075128 +>machine gun with bayonet +--- 58075548 +>>58075502 +The Japanese were kinda silly +--- 58075597 +>Finally getting around to watching Tomo-chan +COLD, THE AIR AND WATER FLOWING +--- 58075614 +>>58075128 +>thinks an MG is a bitch to carry yet woild want around when shooting +that's cute +--- 58075620 +>>58067923 +>He doesn't enjoy getting his guns all slathered up in oil +Fag +--- 58075954 +>>58075614 +Wtf is by his feet? Some weird wok? +--- 58075972 +>mogs your entire general with one pic +Nothing personnel, chuds. +--- 58075983 +>>58075972 +Sasuga, retard. +--- 58076003 +>>58075972 +>How front-heavy do you want it? +>Just fuck my shit up fampai +--- 58076007 +>>58075954 +Baseplate +--- 58076143 +>>58075972 +Any one know what handguard that is? +--- 58076547 +Tactical pup +--- 58076564 +>>58076143 +Pri something it's a mk12 upper +--- 58076574 +>>58076234 +>ywn hold hands with your TACP again +why even live any more +--- 58076588 +>>58075597 +It's a cute show +--- 58076657 +>>58076615 +RK62M, don't see that every day. +--- 58076959 +>>58075972 +Nice... uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh +--- 58076973 +>>58075972 +--- 58076979 +>>58076959 +>>58075972 +Uhhh, BRASS DEFLECTOR! +Yeah, that, it's so nice and clean! +--- 58077071 +>>58075597 +HARD, THE LAND WE CALL OUR HOME +--- 58077153 +>>58077071 +PUSH, TO KEEP THE DARK FROM COMING +--- 58077198 +>>58062096 +Let THE CHAMP and 1911-DONO lend you a hand. The 1911 chambered in Kami's caliber defeated TWO supervillains btw. +--- 58077392 +>>58068697 +>no snow +>only swamps +Ah, the pain. +--- 58077752 +Aright fine, you win. Which of these is worth reading or watching. +--- 58077800 +>>58077752 +read Vagabond instead +--- 58077847 +>>58077800 +As much as I usually enjoy men with swords, I have a craving for girls with guns. +--- 58077855 +>>58077752 +Black Lagoon is a good one to start with. +--- 58077931 +>>58077752 +Gunsmith Cats +Black Lagoon +You're Under Arrest! +SAO Gun Gale is sort of ok +--- 58078319 +>>58077855 +>>58077931 +Wilco. Looks like reading GC and watching BL is the way to go. Will probably have to check out the GC OVAs at some point. +--- 58078400 +>>58076602 +IS THAT LUCIA BOTKIN? +--- 58078655 +Very intimate Germans +--- 58078850 +>>58075597 +>waiting this long +bruh +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJrziCwYxEo [Embed] +--- 58078979 +>>58078364 +Impregnate all female officers +--- 58079145 +>>58078979 +If we do that then we'll never get any work out of them. +--- 58079217 +>>58078850 +I haven't watched it yet, but I also read the whole thing a while ago +--- 58079278 +>>58075972 +what an absolutely unbalanced bitch of a rifle +--- 58079351 +Love me soppo +https://youtu.be/8CoCQW-Qnb4 [Embed] +--- 58079440 +>>58079145 +>2 monsters and a cup of coffee +Sowri ain't making it to Christmas cake age +--- 58079520 +>>58079440 +thats why you've been brought in, mr anon. Your job is to breed her before being an office lady kills her +--- 58079557 +>>58079440 +>Modernize strichtarn +>Stechkin +God my dicks diamond +--- 58079895 +>>58078850 +I had a lot of things to catch up on and forgot about it for a while +--- 58080044 +>>58079145 +Their work is being good mothers and husbands. +--- 58080074 +>Take cleaning kit out of SKS stock +>Sniff it every time +God, that smell +--- 58080076 +>>58072759 +I'm still not sure I understand, I'm also a mathlet. Please explain the way you would to a small child or a Marine. +--- 58080105 +>>58079278 +Too bad you spent that money on dolls, could have had a nicer rifle. +--- 58080158 +>>58080076 +Its a number nature really likes so its everywhere, and so we like it too. +--- 58080686 +What kind of stance is this? +--- 58080721 +>>58080686 +That's the base pose of the Mesugaki Lawman style. +--- 58080783 +>>58080044 +Its definitely her goal. And I want to help her on that. +--- 58080928 +>>58068369 +Nobody believes me when I say my 10/22 is "military grade". +--- 58080965 +>try out this new Pathfinder game +>try to play a cool sword guy +>my numbers are too small unless a gay wizard casts HIV on me to give me buffs and healing +>game is balanced around having a party of 6 people so can't even go in as a party of 3 let alone just me solo +>a furry shows up to yell I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE +>fail a dialogue event because the imaginary dice didn't give me the correct number +>if you redeem the succubus and romance her the ending slides say you don't even stay with her and instead occasionally VISIT HER HOUSE which is in another zip code from you. You have this lovey dovey anime ass romance only to get cucked by ending slides in contrast to what happened during the game. +this shit is way too gay for me (I'm too cool and heterosexual) +RNG turn-based strategy games are for bug people diff --git a/k/58062355.txt b/k/58062355.txt index ca80f8e3b307c55bc65655adbfc1630b3ecbbbad..d6274222fa226842151d4bbaa373543644779b91 100644 --- a/k/58062355.txt +++ b/k/58062355.txt @@ -262,3 +262,157 @@ Once you figure out the puzzle it is a easy time build everything you want reall Mah boi --- 58070612 Assault Cannon Primed. +--- 58071139 +>>58065456 +just download it from the Internet Archive, just search "The First Decade", boom there it is. +--- 58071149 +>>58063999 +been trying to find this for 3 weeks buddy +just doesnt work on windows 10 + +any ideas? cant buy it anywhere +--- 58071166 +>>58062521 +KINO +--- 58071219 +>>58070384 +i have the Limited Edition with a peace of the Berlin War. +Game was extremely mega turbo ultra kino. +--- 58071227 +>>58062355 (OP) +this 1 is good +--- 58071259 +>>58069151 +Not really. You have helicopters survive wounds. The UI is clunky. There isn't anything better. +--- 58071273 +>>58065484 +>watching some shock force 2 videos +>WARNO in the recommendations + +i was not expecting that much whiplash, from "whoops my corrupt third world shithole didn't provide my mortars with any smoke rounds so we get to cowabunga across this bridge into the urban ambush we know is waiting cause there's nothing else to be done" to "this helicopter can survive two wounds from a Buk and has a 3+ ECM saving throw". +--- 58071307 +>>58071273 +I hate how slimy the camera is in Shock force 2, and also how much freedom they've given the TacAi compared to older titles. No, I don't want my vehicles to suddenly reverse course and drive two blocks away into an enemy ambush because one stray bullet happened to graze the bumper, thank you +--- 58071378 +>>58066003 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghJuYC_RjTY [Embed] +shame eugen refuses to polish ranked play and add a map selection, this looks like so much fun +--- 58071692 +Simple as +--- 58071714 +>>58062355 (OP) +I am rather fond of Black Powder Red Earth myself +apparently there is a comic book or something set in the same universe as well, but I've only played the game +--- 58071743 +>>58066440 +You just lack skill +I made it through on regular rations and without "crossing the line" - whatever that means +The trick is to start prepping right from day one, don't listen to your citizens when they bitch about it being a little chilly and completely ignore the religious path because hope is borderline meaningless once the londoners issue is resolved +--- 58071786 +>>58071692 +Game? +Looks very cool +--- 58071799 +>>58071714 +Always blows my mind the comics/worldbuilding was done by the fucking vocalist of Discordance Axis. +--- 58071875 +Yes, I know it's the worst Tom Clancy game. Yes, I know it's kind of a crappy RTS. Yes, I know that the premise and the game itself is kind of retarded. Yes, I know it's all built around a single (not all that impressive) gimmick. It's still weirdly comfy though. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyYNBYedzqw [Embed] +--- 58071892 +>>58071786 +Flashpoint Campaigns: Southern Storm, it is very cool and simulates a lot of things if you don't mind the abstract presentation. It's about £50 on stream right now but worth getting for sure on sale. +--- 58071996 +>>58071892 +Than you Anon +Will definitely check it out +--- 58072392 +>>58071743 +>>58070461 +No, I'm fine with razor thin lines to success and all, but Frostpunk did it in the worst way possible by making all the options the devs simply didn't like unviable. I think the biggest issue with Frostpunk is that it's a relatively short term game. If this was taking place over the course of a century or two then yes, we should at least consider child labor laws. But in the emergency short term? A lot of shit can go out the window. +If a strategy game has a single method for success instead of a single goal to be reached with whatever method, is it even a strategy game? +--- 58072773 +Warzone 2100 +Jagged Alliance +Battletech +Fallout Tactics +Aliens Versus Predator: Extinction +Homeworld +Total War +Men of War +Ratten Reich +--- 58073082 +>>58071149 +You should be able to spin up a Hyper-V VM on Win10 and install either Win98 or XP on it. (Hell, I want to say 10 has an "XP mode" baked into it like that?) + +/g/ should have something... +--- 58076147 +>>58062355 (OP) +Not exactly pure /k/ but it's definitely some kommando's ultimate fantasy. You and a few friends, one dog or a dozen, and a shitton of guns and tribals to shoot up with those guns. +--- 58076775 +best strategy game of the 00's and you cant even find a copy to buy anymore + +RIP westwood +--- 58076790 +>>58071149 +EA sells a collection of every cnc game ever made on their launcher for like 20 bucks. +for CNC and RA 1-2 use cncnet's patch. +For generals use genpatcher +For CNC and RA 3 use flawless widescreen +idk about renegade, never played it. +--- 58077810 +dead game +--- 58078968 +>>58077810 +every thoroughbred RTS game is dead kek +--- 58079072 +>>58077810 +>game adds russian faction +>it's for retards who don't know how to play +every time +--- 58079112 +>>58076775 +>best strategy game of the 00's and you cant even find a copy to buy anymore +you can play that one for free these days, the online servers are maintained by the community +https://cncnet.org/download +--- 58079170 +>>58079112 +get mental omega +--- 58079204 +>>58079112 +I think a lot of the "oh woe is me, for I can no longer partake in this exceptional gaming exerience from my childhood :(" belly aching itt is just from people who's google-fu is weak. Old RTS games unanimously have tiny enclaves of autists that will keep them functional and available for modern audiences, they just haven't managed to seek them out for whatever reason. CnC, homeworld cataclysm, they all can be played on modern systems if you know how to perform a keyword search. +--- 58080269 +>>58076147 +I have never thought of Rimworld like that... but you're goddamn right +--- 58080298 +NOTHING STOPS THE MAIL +--- 58080310 +>>58080298 +>team using shitty junk technology is the most overpowered +this is when i realized generals is simply worse than ra2 +--- 58080397 +>>58076147 +>>58080269 +>you and your comrades dropping onto a barren planet +>build the first /k/abin +>huddle around the basic fire while the blistering cold screams around you, coming up with creative curses for those glitterworld faggots for entertainment +>invite in some wild dogs +>survive the winter, grow your own food in the spring +>name your settlement The /k/ingdom +>your faction name All Those Faggots +>build guns, artillery, and defensive positions +>sew your own surplus uniforms and armor +>domesticate deer +>buy a TV for anime +>raid other settlements for loot +>convert captives to the murder /k/ube +>resist enemy raiders +>defeat ancient forces +>burn insects a la Klendathu + +Rimworld is /k/ as fuck +--- 58081612 +>>58080397 +rimworld is fun, but my colony usually turns into farmer/rancher/industrial kitchen/fur trader simulator +--- 58081761 +>>58063233 +This, it placates my autism in ways no other game could. diff --git a/k/58064221.txt b/k/58064221.txt index 13a46c553da92e3ba9318053faf411e1cb2db249..f9d7a06d5b93f93db6390877fe7ff8827c02b2ea 100644 --- a/k/58064221.txt +++ b/k/58064221.txt @@ -119,3 +119,123 @@ Just don't transmit at the wrong time. --- 58069859 >>58067643 lightfinder@national.shitposting.agency +--- 58071073 +Cool thread. Bump +--- 58071086 +>>58064221 (OP) +>not opting for night vision for best solo build. + +>Out being military larpers. +>I cut the power and start shooting +>OH SHIT WHAT THE FUCK. GET OUT. +>Your radio works in all telling each other you get out while I pick off half of your group +--- 58071127 +>>58064221 (OP) +>not having a dearth squad that speaks with mostly your sign language +--- 58071131 +>death squad +:/ +--- 58071480 +>>58064221 (OP) +Motorola equipment is really not comfy to use. +It's like using cisco equipment at home. It's corporate bullshit. +Get some chink radio that is easy to program, has usb-c charging, vfo and is not rf deaf like moto. +--- 58074118 +>>58064221 (OP) +HAMPR and meshtastic +--- 58074621 +>>58069859 +Well it looks like you're not getting astro 25 and I'm not getting a blowjob +--- 58074643 +>>58071480 +They're fine by me +--- 58074691 +>>58074643 +is that your ballsack nigga +--- 58074863 +>>58064221 (OP) +Why do you even bother asking? You don't have anyone to talk to. +--- 58076861 +>>58074863 +Kek'd and rekt. +--- 58077553 +Analog niggers shitting themselves in my thread. +--- 58077635 +CB radios. +That's all I'm gonna say. +Cheap and plentiful easy setup easy use. +--- 58078871 +>>58064221 (OP) +I dont care about communications I just want to be able to scan and locate signal sources. For scientific reasons of course. +--- 58079132 +>>58078871 +There’s good YouTube videos on the topic. +--- 58079239 +>>58077635 +Please use CB and enjoy being tracked +--- 58080043 +>>58077635 +>CB radios. +>That's all I'm gonna say. +I wisg the jive turkey motor mouths would use the brevity codes. I feel like Ripley in Aliens listening to CB now +>did IQs suddenly drop +I am 10-10. +--- 58080061 +>>58071127 +>t. ASL ninja +--- 58080236 +Why are ham operators so fat and miserable? +--- 58080386 +>>58080236 +They don’t go outside. They sit in their chair indoors with their 110W Ham Radio and talk about how their 240 pound whale of a wife won’t bring their cat-baby to the vet. +--- 58080393 +>>58064221 (OP) +I will be your friend +>>58064353 +nigger +--- 58080407 +>>58080236 +They have a boatload of medical issues including bowel issues. That's basically all they talk about other than their rigs and antennas. +--- 58080408 +>>58080393 +Thanks man +--- 58080476 +PL259 to BNC adatpers arriving soon. Picnonrel. +--- 58080516 +>>58065095 +YWNBAW +--- 58080536 +>>58080476 +UV-9? I’m not familiar with Baofeng. +--- 58080564 +>>58080236 +They don't get out and actually do things unlike us. +--- 58080572 +>>58080536 +"Weatherized" UV5, like IP4 or maybe better. Same thing, same shitty specs. You will notice the xmit noise floor near carrier ~ -40dBm and the pwr level not at spec. You don't expect much for $40. It's actually pretty amazing for $40. +--- 58080579 +>>58080516 +>screeching about trannies out of nowhere +Have you considered that you might be mentally ill? +--- 58080595 +Are custom smoke signals and creating your own conlang to use with others the ultimate form of encryption? +--- 58080608 +>>58080572 +How much do the Baofengs spillover compared to a more expensive handheld? + +>>58080595 +The Indians don’t call the shots anymore so that might be an indication. +--- 58080609 +>>58080595 +>custom smoke signals +Yes for Chief Dorkfuck and his band of retarded inbreeds. Say "attack" on a windy day. +--- 58080631 +>>58080608 +>spillover +Define this term in your context? The tx freq was right on for setting. Output pwr was off per spec. +--- 58080660 +>>58080631 +You answered the question. +--- 58081910 +>>58064221 (OP) +Sometimes I like to go outside to my pront porch and scream out nigger as loud as I can. The person who calls back becomes my friend. diff --git a/k/58064846.txt b/k/58064846.txt index c141c068290a8ed8c640bb95b1cb154a1d4a9922..b757aee662c159c98281a35b50cf40dec87cab9f 100644 --- a/k/58064846.txt +++ b/k/58064846.txt @@ -82,3 +82,72 @@ With triple the charge, a proper HE like rdx, and a long oal to ensure proper st >>58064846 (OP) I've made HE 12g rounds before. Same damage as an equivilant slug. +--- 58071470 +>>58069011 +What kind of HE did you use? +--- 58072278 +>>58066975 +The problem with small HE is not some physical phenomenon. They just couldn't make small fuzes back in the day. Also spin messes with shaped charges. + +Look at Raufoss. It has no detonator. All that HE is just niggerified incendiary on impact. Look at M789. It's pathetic. +--- 58074266 +>>58072278 +>spin messes with shaped charges +It does? +--- 58074578 +>>58074266 +Yes. They use corrugated liner cope to somewhat mitigate it. + +>40mm HEDP 76mm pen +>125mm RPG 1300mm pen +--- 58074882 +>>58068579 +>>58072278 +>>58067766 +You notice how that explosive is about three times the length of a shotgun slug, then has extra stilts on the front of it? +THAT is why it doesn't work the way you think it does. The increased demands on both warhead design from both housing and absolute hard length limit. It lowers the potential starting diameter of your cone, and absolutely inverts ideal standoff. You're forgetting that this has to fit inside something capable of surviving being fired out of a shotgun (the bomb in your video would have been turned to explosive confetti) and *that* has to fit inside a shotgun shell. +Pick up a shotgun slug from your house and actually think about the scale for a second, I assume you have one nearby. + +There is a *reason* why when the military tried this they could barely get through half an inch of steel. +--- 58077064 +>>58064922 +>>58069011 +>>58072278 +I don't understand why you guys act like 7g high explosive isn't enough to make a big difference in target damage, look at what this raufoss does to this brass at 4:16 compared to the other 50 loadings. +https://youtu.be/xGUCKj2cBzc [Embed] +--- 58077799 +>>58077064 +You didn't quote me, but I want to be clear I think an explosive shotgun slug can be tremendously lethal, and more armor piercing than any other shotgun slug, I only explained the limitations. +--- 58078378 +>>58074266 +conservation of angular momentum is a bitch + +Good news is, smoothbore shotguns are readily available, "all" you have to do is make it an aerodynamically-stable projectile in addition to everything else. +--- 58078418 +>>58064846 (OP) +>HE ammo? +Why can't it be SHE ammo? Or XIR ammo? Why does it have to be gendered at all? +--- 58080607 +>>58077064 +Dang +--- 58080637 +>HE ammo +It's ma'ammo!!! +--- 58080664 +>>58078418 +>>58080637 +retards stuck in 2016 that think they're being remotely clever or funny +--- 58080676 +>>58080664 +If only you knew how bad it will become. Mark my words. +--- 58080809 +>>58080664 +No gun +--- 58081011 +The fusing system on 12Gauge anti-armor would be a bitch and a half. HEAT is hard enough but EFP would be downright impossible. All you can get is impact-induced high explosion. In Raufoss, the explosion is there to assist the high velocity tungsten. +--- 58081159 +>>58064939 +I will now read your book. +--- 58081179 +>>58081011 +You can get a sub optimal focused explosive fairly easily, FRAG-12 penetrated way under "ideal" but more than simply hucking HE. diff --git a/k/58064896.txt b/k/58064896.txt index de38ddb713bf0a72a2f7fa75bce7812cb1179134..dde48eedec68d1244a538ae3dfe974041154f64a 100644 --- a/k/58064896.txt +++ b/k/58064896.txt @@ -89,3 +89,40 @@ The fact that it's not common knowledge basically proves that people dont buy th --- 58068897 >>58068066 Has the little bit of hair just below her right hand always been missed on this edit? +--- 58071075 +>>58065913 +I’ll look at those Hough grips. Thanks anon +--- 58071146 +They're made in Vietnam now at the Z111 factory. +--- 58074654 +>>58068765 +Yes, and the problem is still present on the Jericho II. I know because I owned one and sold it a while back because aftermarket was almost non-existent until recently. This is because According to the manual the factory sights are zeroed to 25 meters (yes meters) so ~80 ft. You are going to have a lot of hold over at shorter distances and will have to aim at the very center of the dots instead of the tip like other firearms. +--- 58075134 +>>58064896 (OP) +Because you're not gonna carry that weight and no one will see you, space cowboy +--- 58075428 +>>58067159 +>>58068066 +Its because the factory sights on post-2007 models are too low, if you replace them with night sights the grouping corrects itself bc theyre taller sights. I had this issue with my baby eagle 3 but after new sights it fixed the issue. I'm currently waiting on sights for my Baby eagle 1 compact to confirm if this is the case for older models as well. + +As for the slide, probably just training scars. I find the easiest way to operate the action is a slingshot-like pull picrel +These are great pistols, but admittingly they do have weird quirks to iron out. +--- 58077427 +>>58064896 (OP) +I got a parts kit without the (polymer) frame. Anybody know where I could grab one? +--- 58077450 +>>58066469 +/Biz/ is full of retards lying about how much money they make while peddling crypto bullshit and shit coins. Fuck off. +--- 58079084 +>>58064896 (OP) +annoying to look through 10 gorillion ads to find an original norailz one +Then when you see one it's some fuckwit with his beat to shit Israeli police trade in advertising it like it single-handedly ended Palestine and Vicious +--- 58080666 +>>58064896 (OP) +bc guns are for insecure faggots and criminals +--- 58080956 +>>58064896 (OP) +Buy an ad moishe. It's getting so tiresome. +--- 58081031 +>>58080666 +satan would say that diff --git a/k/58066891.txt b/k/58066891.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..63c28c934769ef4835092a0f1acf6fe305bc4956 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58066891.txt @@ -0,0 +1,373 @@ +----- +--- 58066891 +why does everyone at the range look like this? +--- 58066900 +>>58066891 (OP) +because it's fun and it triggers nu-fudds like yourself +--- 58066935 +>>58066900 +don't you feel embarrassed for being an adult and playing dress up? +you realize you are cosplaying? +--- 58066947 +>>58066935 +poor +--- 58066954 +>>58066935 +DAMN +--- 58066956 +>>58066935 +you sound like an impoverished, anti-gun homosexual +--- 58066960 +I usually wear a dress or flannel +--- 58066977 +>>58066947 +>>58066956 +do you think spending 5k on some tactishit is a lot of money? +Only a poor would have this line of reasoning. +--- 58066978 +>>58066891 (OP) +young +--- 58066998 +>>58066891 (OP) +I dress like this but its because "the range" is my land, my woods, and my territory to spook around as I please. +--- 58067011 +>>58066977 +>implying I've only spent 5k +poor detected! poor detected! poor detected! +--- 58067146 +>>58066977 +poor +--- 58067173 +>>58066977 +40k GPNVG's in pic +>5k + +are you ok retard? +--- 58067197 +>>58066891 (OP) +What can is that? Or is it just a short can with a cover? +LMT is sexo too. +--- 58067243 +>>58066891 (OP) +Because it looks awesome, faggot. +--- 58067317 +>>58067011 +>>58067146 +>>58067173 +>glazing over the shit photoshop +whew i knew summer was near but holy shit is it bright outside +--- 58067404 +>>58066891 (OP) +i hate multisneed camo +--- 58067423 +>>58066891 (OP) +have you ever been to a gun range? +--- 58067432 +>>58066891 (OP) +Because its important to train with kit on. It's how you get better. If there was ever a situation where you had to defend yourself with a firearm, you would ideally want body armor and a way to carry ammo. When you train with kit, not only does it make you more proficient but it makes you realize what works and what doesn't work and you may need to make adjustments here and there to achieve a functioning and efficient setup of equipment. Just training with your rifle or whatever wont make you better. It'll make you a good shot, sure, but there's more to it than just being a good shot. +--- 58067488 +>>58066935 +Based +--- 58067511 +>>58067432 +Go hiking with it on instead of making yourself look retarded like the tards who wear a yukata in public +--- 58067527 +>>58066891 (OP) +I make sure to load extra big charges of black powder when I'm upwind of the larp brigade and their SBR 300BOs. +--- 58067622 +>>58067511 +Not the same at all lmao. Kit may need to be rearranged for better efficiency and the only way to find that out is if you train with it on. +--- 58067627 +>>58067317 +see previous +--- 58067646 +I just roll up in my office attire; blue oxfords, guayaberas of various colors or sleeve lengths, Bahama shirts, chinos or black khakis, and my safety toe loafers +--- 58067651 +Because they're dorks. Simple as. +--- 58067668 +>>58066891 (OP) +STOP LARP SHAMING +--- 58067672 +>>58066891 (OP) +Americans should do as they please. +--- 58067687 +>>58067622 +Train with it in your backyard, go on a midnight walk, run on a cheap treadmill, do jumping jacks with it on, you don't need to make others cringe for you to satisfy your cosplay desires +--- 58067799 +>>58066977 +>5k +I wish. +--- 58067812 +>>58066891 (OP) +I've literally never seen a single person in gear at the range +--- 58067837 +>>58066935 +train how you fight, simple as +--- 58068011 +>>58066891 (OP) +what kind of range do you go to? +never seen anyone in kit at any wma or range ive been to +--- 58068031 +>>58067687 +I don’t care what a fat basement dweller like you thinks +--- 58068088 +>>58068031 +You playing dress up in places where you arent actually getting any benefit from it is half a step away from a tranny trying to justify using the girls bathroom, it’s offputting and everyone judges you for it, but go off i guess queen. +--- 58068130 +>>58066960 +Fellow Canuck spotted. +--- 58068143 +>>58066891 (OP) +They have no training, they think the equipment is what keeps people alive. Guy with actual training has cargo pants at most. +--- 58068230 +>>58066935 +everyone is playing dress up all the time, it's just most people are wearing their wagie cosplay +--- 58068239 +>>58066947 +>>58066956 +He's 100% correct though, it's objectively true. You are playing dress up. Why not just own it? You like to dress like a soldier for fun, at least +>>58066900 +..is honest +--- 58068285 +Everyone who still uses the poor meme should be legally required to show all their assets outside of heckin gunarino toys. +--- 58068288 +>>58067812 +I took a carbine class in the summer and threw my armor on (not kitted out like OP) and the instructor is like “You’re just making it harder for yourself”. I said I thought that was the pint. (Disclaimer: Did not say “Train hard fight easy brother”). +--- 58068332 +>>58068130 +Pacific northwest US so close enough +--- 58068365 +>>58066891 (OP) +Wouldn’t know I shoot at my friends fathers land in the mountains +--- 58068395 +>>58067837 +You queers aren't fighting anything. +--- 58068399 +>>58066891 (OP) +So they can be the next AlphaDelta Seal SMU Black Berets +--- 58068416 +>>58067243 +It looks awesome in a active combat zone +Even a fucking raghead wearing old Soviet gear looks more awesome +If you are dressed like this after your pit stop to McDonald’s on the way to a range you look like a dork and should be treated as such +--- 58068475 +>>58068416 +Ramirez isn't going to be around to save my local Burger Town when the Russians come. Semper paratus baby. +--- 58068497 +>>58067432 +Way of the gun style gear +>body armor +>belt with spare magazine and ccw holster +>easily concealed under clothes +Is all any civilian would realistically need +Even if you are involved in crime and are a hitman +Unless you are some mercenary working in Latin America all that stuff is nothing more than toys +--- 58068519 +>>58068239 +ill say it again if youd like. but you sound like a bitch and probably would report me for spamming +--- 58068816 +ITT: Poorfags +--- 58068898 +>>58068475 +Buying ten PSA shitters and putting them in your closet is gonna save the town far far more than you pretending to be a door kicker and getting ventilated like the vdv niggas all did when they tried to be high sped operators in Kiev +--- 58069223 +>>58066956 +Spending an obscene amount of money on pussy repellent like OP’s pic doesn’t mean you’re not poor. It’s not even a good status symbol because the only people who know how much those NODs and that IR laser costs are other gun autists. +--- 58069246 +>>58068816 +>wow you think that $1,200 I spent on my fur suit was too much money? ok poorfag +--- 58069293 +>>58069246 +Thats high quality for such a low price. +Whos the maker? +--- 58069329 +It's okay to play army dress up, just be self-aware about it and don't take it seriously. Tactical larpers who actually think they're elite uber commandos are annoying faggots. +--- 58069517 +>>58066891 (OP) +if you plan to wear that gear during doomsday then sure it's fine to train in it. +--- 58069576 +>>58066891 (OP) +What range do you go to... is it in the military. Are you in the military is that the joke +--- 58069583 +>>58066935 +No +Yes +--- 58070344 +>>58066891 (OP) +Because you are at Ft. Bragg? +--- 58070400 +>>58068395 +>You queers aren't fighting anything. +--- 58070414 +>>58066891 (OP) +What plate carrier? +--- 58070961 +>>58066935 +I enjoy cosplaying. +--- 58071464 +>>58067837 +>put on larp uniform +>drive 45 minutes to the range +>shoot static targets at 100 yards for two hours +>get bored and start magdumping at pistol range +>aon the way home stop by mcdonalds and get a milkshake +>"train how you fight, simple as" he says to himself +--- 58071466 +>>58067646 +Based guayabro. +This summer is gonna be Guayabera and a Smith 6906 every day. +--- 58074378 +>>58068395 +fuck off im fighting the urge to suck your fucking cock right now +--- 58074408 +>>58066891 (OP) +Larperators like Botkin normalized it. +--- 58074417 +>>58066935 +REKT +--- 58074428 +>If I wear what the popular kids are wearing, I’ll be happy +--- 58074429 +>>58066935 +>don't you feel embarrassed for being an adult and playing dress up? +No. +>you realize you are cosplaying? +Yes. +--- 58074734 +>>58066935 +They hated him because he spoke the truth +>shut up! +--- 58074763 +Tactical gear is the funko pops of gun culture +--- 58074773 +>>58066935 +They hate you because they resemble that remark. +The +>shades +>hat backwards +>bechrested Suppressed 300BO pistol +Are the funniest. +--- 58074792 +I'll never stop larping, continue to seeth in your apartment europoor. +--- 58074795 +>>58066935 +based, lmao'ing at all the salty replies ITT +--- 58074800 +>>58066891 (OP) +I've never seen someone dressed like this at a range. Most tacticool I've seen is two fat guys with plate carriers and Hawaiian shirts. What ranges do you go to? +--- 58074836 +>>58074800 +You must live in a suburban or rural area, in most cities the ranges close by are full with zoomers trying to be the next gun eceleb. Even the ranges here in Salt Lake are full with tacticool tards +--- 58074852 +>>58068816 +>spends money on range toys instead of ranch land +>p-poor! +--- 58074898 +>>58074836 +Thats probably why. I only go to WMA ranges +--- 58074919 +this is my range outfit +--- 58074934 +>>58068088 +NTA but how is shooting with the kit youre supposed to use when shooting bad? +--- 58074940 +>>58066891 (OP) +is this Garand Thumb or something? +--- 58074974 +>>58074934 +Fats think you're only suppose to shoot guns sitting down on a bench. On the occasion they are standing, they just reload from their back pocket. + +Remember you're only one nog being choked out on the street showing up on the news away from needing to wear any kit. +--- 58074977 +>>58074940 +Garand thumb with a pube beard would be weird +--- 58075246 +>>58074934 +They're fat and poor and the type of person to go to a boxing gym to do bag drills "for fitness" - but never spar anyone or have any interest in how an endeavor "that's never gonna happen" such as a fight - would actually work +--- 58075308 +>>58074934 +They're 1200lb immobile objects who are big meanies :( +--- 58075310 +>>58068143 +Idiot. You are auch a stupid mothercucker you cant differentiate between pictures of pipe cleaners in a bodyguard style low vis mode while theyre driving through a town or hamlet whatever theyre called and when theyre dropped off for a room clearong cqbbbbbb high value target kill or capture mission. +--- 58075321 +>>58075310 +OOH RAH DEVIL DOG GET SOME RUFF RUFF +--- 58075323 +>>58066935 +Fax. +--- 58075344 +Wannabe cracker losers, same as airshit crackers. +--- 58075345 +>>58070344 + +No I was at Fort Fag +--- 58075423 +>>58066935 +based +--- 58075467 +>>58066935 +You thinking about my penis right now? +--- 58075679 +>>58066935 +Unfathomably based +--- 58075766 +>>58067432 +Who are you fighting? Do you always wear armor? Because when you need a firearm won't be up to you. +--- 58076872 +>>58066891 (OP) +--- 58077082 +>>58066935 +Poor. Look at all the gay kid replies lmao +--- 58077141 +>>58068230 +thread should have ended here, we're all acting as something we want to be. +--- 58077708 +There was a group of these fags today all doing drills together. I walked up in gym shorts, slides, and my battle belt hanging over my t shirt and joined them. Absolutely mogged them all, ended up turning it into a little class. It was like a bunch of retarded professors all dressed nicely being lectured by a student wearing $5 in good will clothes. +--- 58077741 +>>58067197 +I hot a lmt lower because i couldnt find a radian lower at a resonable price but the vltor MUR upper i already purchased didnt fit the lmt lower. I like it but wish i mated to more uppers +--- 58077885 +>>58066935 +I for one am glad shooters can dress up like this, but it's cope for hitting that point in shooting where going to the range and setting up is a pain in the ass, so if you are dressed up like Soap McTavish then it's fun again. +--- 58080889 +>>58066891 (OP) +So all your equipment is on you instead of a table. If you’re not a flat range indoor shooter you’d find it useful. No tables in the outdoors. + +>>58066935 +How vain, you focus on form over function +--- 58080914 +>>58066891 (OP) +Idk what gun range you go to but the only time I see people in kit is during training events. Based if people do tacticool LARP at yours full time, the 2nd Amendment is to be used to kill enemies of the people, not for some faggy sport purposes and I'm glad we're stopping the sugarcoating nonsense. + +Wouldn't catch me in anything more than a couple of mixed multicam pieces though, dressing as a ZOGbot is real gay. +--- 58080915 +>>58066900 +AR larperator fags are way closer to fudds in spirit because they hate anything outside of their gay larp and don't enjoy firearms. No different than some fat boomer with a durr rifle he only shoots once a year from a tree stand. + +Nu Fudds are the people who tell you what you "need" instead of "you don't need that". It's the same myopic anti fun cancer mindset + +Fuck you zoomer +--- 58080998 +the amount of asspain and cope in this thread is unreal fukken lmao +you will never be a SEAL. you will never be a Raider. you will never be an oper8r. Only an ultra-autist. That will be your highest honor. +--- 58081235 +>>58080998 +>never be a seal +>never be a fat retard who lies about missions where his buddies got killed by stupidity for jews +good +--- 58081284 +>>58066891 (OP) +you have to embrace your own style, show the military larp fags the what for. I rock a hybrid of an IRA member and the columbine edge. I dont care, I feel cool because its graymanish and no one else really does it. Let the overplayed armyfags play dressup, and find your own "cringe" aesthetic +--- 58081294 +>>58080889 +Let’s be real. +Everyone who does this does it because the cool army guys wear it. +If these same items were available to civilians with the exact same function but an entirely different form than what was given to the military, no one would want it. They would want the same thing but with the form of the army guy’s stuff. +--- 58081532 +>>58066891 (OP) +I simply find it funny that many of these guys are preparing for SHTF but are only making themselves look like prime loot drops. +--- 58081665 +>>58066891 (OP) +>>58066935 +Why do you care? diff --git a/k/58067064.txt b/k/58067064.txt index e4e1ab5433b4e9e9b0e1795615490b4d40f66c20..2c5c72c8368e66597e938c932cd5ee0e8b64c0f4 100644 --- a/k/58067064.txt +++ b/k/58067064.txt @@ -28,3 +28,37 @@ Payload 6kg, total weight 35kg (there's some incorrect claims of 35 kg of payloa https://www.overtdefense.com/2023/05/02/baykar-tech-unveils-the-bayraktar-kemankes-loitering-munition-for-the-first-time/ https://en.defence-ua.com/industries/baykar_released_the_kemankes_mini_cruise_missile_compatible_with_the_bayraktar_tb2_it_will_go_into_series_this_year-6536.html +--- 58072982 +>>58067446 +Neither can a missile. +--- 58075948 +>have a turbojet +>still use thermals +>mmWave +>cheaper to make the radars +>can work in bad weather +>better object recognition due to 3d data +>cons: can be jammed +Why didint they go with mmWave like brimstones ? Optics like those are half the price of the damn missile +--- 58076765 +>>58072982 +>Neither can a missile. +https://youtu.be/6IwqmezeSuQ [Embed] +--- 58077618 +>>58072982 +Yes, and a missile is also a type of munition, why exactly did you post this? +--- 58079448 +>>58067064 (OP) +>>58067068 +>don't talk to me or my son ever again +--- 58079461 +>>58072982 +>>58076765 +kek +--- 58081388 +>>58077618 +Dumb missiles don't return to base either. Are dumb missiles loitering munitions? +--- 58081411 +>>58072982 +>Neither can a missile. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lduMrY5ILGI [Embed] diff --git a/k/58067412.txt b/k/58067412.txt index 38bcc9d7fa34266f0043b53a83cf4dcec99bcbc1..7b00ee3462cf9a1d3cb1fc8ee6ab97832020e196 100644 --- a/k/58067412.txt +++ b/k/58067412.txt @@ -157,3 +157,407 @@ The whole autistic room clearing mentality didn't exist back then, no one was pr >>58067540 >sperm gun oil I hadn't considered using that before. +--- 58071257 +Wait until you find out you could buy arsenal refurbished U.S. Krag-Jorgensens in the 1920s for as low as $1.50 wholesale and $7.50 retail, and that the government gave away thousands upon thousands of Krags and 1903/06 Springfields PLUS NEW MANUFACTURED AMMO to gun clubs across the nation for FREE, and the laws then required them to do so. +--- 58071262 +>>58069200 +even back then sako was stupidity expensive too lmao +--- 58071267 +>>58071257 +>the laws then required them to do so. +what law ? +--- 58071275 +>>58067412 (OP) +interesting +--- 58071566 +>>58069193 +If you could, please show me the most tacticool gun in the catalog +--- 58072375 +1929 +--- 58072441 +>Pre 1967 +>They did this. +Imagine the political and legal fallout if a +firearms manufacturer advertised like this today. +--- 58072469 +>>58070096 +Now adjust for average income. +--- 58072471 +>>58069200 +>(((Klein))) +--- 58073089 +>>58069861 +this was the only ak, will look for others later +--- 58073120 +>>58071566 +The most "tacticool" thing I could find was this abomination(Federal XC-900) +--- 58073139 +>>58070010 +>the "mares leg" lever actions that companies sell today was a popular home defense rifle configuration people would run in that period. Modern mares leg guns are only not sold with full stocks due to the NFA. +Is this a shitpost, or have tactitards actually started believing shit like this? +--- 58073144 +>>58067412 (OP) +Ngl kinda dig this historic period where just 1 buck meant something. +--- 58073204 +>>58067449 +Rem No. 3 (24", octagon barrel) +> that's the rifle I learned to shoot on +> my great grandfather's rifle +> handed down to my grandfather +> handed down to my uncle (dad's brother) +> his fucking shrew wife "gun buybacked" it +Saw her a few months ago. +Still haven't forgiven her. +--- 58073296 +>>58073120 +>M1 carbine +>$312 +I scream. +--- 58073302 +>>58073204 +Holy shit. This is my greatest fear. +--- 58073365 +>>58073302 +Yeah, caused quite the rift in the family. +> Uncle (dad's brother) shrew wife "gun buybacks" family heirloom Rem 22LR rifle +> My dad had words for uncle's wife +> "WTF did you DO?!" +> her reply was the expected, "if it saves one life" +> "How much did you get? Wait, don't care. I'd have given you 20X, in CASH" +> Dad drove from his house to uncle's house +> came back with "unwanted" heirlooms, left a stack of Franklins on their table +> Marlin 30-30 that grandfather used to put food on the table +> revolver +> slug gun +> couple others +That 30-30 kept the family fed. They were poor in rural NW Montana. (didn't have hot running water in the house until my dad was a sophomore in high school) My grandfather would take a deer each fall. And he'd use every part of it. +But that fucking 22 was the rifle EVERYBODY in the family learned to shoot on. +Pep, if you're reading, FUCK YOU! +--- 58073417 +>>58067526 +>Interesting to note is that ammo was still sold both in blackpowder and smokeless varieties, and that handgun ammunition was primarily loaded with black powder outside of ammo for autoloaders. +That is interesting. I've seen a lot of posters here insist that smokeless quickly overtook black powder on the consumer market, and this is a full 26 years after the first successful smokeless powder started seeing use. + +>>58073365 +Yeah anon, I'm sure your uncle's wife who would sell a single shot .22 that has been in your family since the early 1900s at a gun buyback while keeping all those other guns browses 4chan to read this. +--- 58073437 +>>58073365 +>if it saves one life +That makes no fucking sense, how do you save a life by getting rid of an old family gun? Even my mother knows that my grandfather's rusty revolver is something important to my dad and has it as a living room decoration. +--- 58073457 +>>58073437 +Because it's shitty rage bait that anon made up. +--- 58073559 +the jews took all this from you +--- 58073565 +>>58069355 +Then you're kinda dumb. The average shotgun is 18.5 to 20 inches long In barrel length. That's what people have been using to defend themselves with up until the early 2000s when the shift moved over to tacticooling like a green beret in urban Iraq. Even today there's still a lot of people with shotguns for home defense. If we're talking innawoods people used their hunting rifle also as a means for self defense. But in those times people could generally leave their front doors unlocked without fear of serial killers and robbers. Different times. +--- 58073602 +>>58073204 +Weak genetics and weak men. Imagine some Afghani wife selling her Taliban husband's heirloom gun to some Jews or Pakistanis lol. This is uniquely a western man's modern problems. Women are out of control and zero accountability. +--- 58073664 +>>58068019 +when adjusted for income, that would be ~$250 today if you adjust for percentage of income. In 1912 the average person was making ~$660 a year. +--- 58073667 +>>58073365 +>>58073602 +Samefag +--- 58073669 +>order some toys for the kids +>some lingerie for the wife +>and an anti tank rifle for yourself +>all out of the same catalogue + +WE NEED TO GO BACK, GAS THE DEMOCRATS, NFA REPEAL NOW! +--- 58073674 +>>58073437 +Don't try to ascribe logic to the actions of anti-gunners. They do things strictly based on what they are told to do and how it makes them feel. +>>58073457 +>nothing ever happens +--- 58073689 +>>58073669 +Why? Despite most people hear saying that bans don't work, the NFA and GCA have done a lot to keep gun crime from being worse than it is. +--- 58073706 +>>58073667 +Whatever you say troon +--- 58073715 +>>58073689 +>implying it was worse before those laws were passed + +Gargle my semen you freedom hating waste of skin. +--- 58073757 +>>58073689 +That's bullshit and you know it. +--- 58073769 +>>58073689 +Nigger +--- 58073804 +>>58073689 +They're putting a bandaid on the hemorrhaging and telling everyone that more bandaids will fix the problem. If everyone was allowed to own guns as they see fit, the racial divide in crime would be even bigger and people would be forced to accept certain realities about race and genetics and the world would be better place when policies would reflect reality. But as of now, due to 13% of the population (actually only 5% when you consider that it's the military age males commiting all the violent crime) the rest of the nation is suffering gun control. Even when some crazy cracker shoots up a school, it's only one or two retards in a nation of 400,000,000. + +The rest have to lose their rights because of a few retards? And no one wants to even begin to look at the cause of these mass shootings UNLESS it's related to a political spectrum in a way that makes the other side look bad. And we saw how quickly the media dropped the news when it was a troon shooter killing Christian children, or the biggest mass shooter in history in Vegas being swept under the rug as well +--- 58073831 +>>58073715 +You know that anime pic using faggot would gladly do that. You're rewarding him with that offer. +--- 58073872 +>>58073689 +>gun crime +Dis De Cauze Cuz. +--- 58074123 +>>58070010 +>yeah, John Poortard from Wyoming is totally gonna splurge for useless hacked up winchesterlet instead of coping with 2$ Liege Bulldog facsimile and a full size 10GA double. + +lol +--- 58074174 +>>58072471 +>He didnt take (((Klein`s))) one time offer for 38$ Sniper Enfield + +meshugene goyim have only themselves to blame. +--- 58074217 +>>58067449 +That Mauser Carbine got me actin up +--- 58074269 +>>58074217 +Can you please repeat that, but in White people? +--- 58074349 +>>58067598 +>$600 for a 1911 +Honestly not bad considering it was basically the equivalent of buying a M17 today. + +>>58067983 +the same thing was still possible 50 years later and you could even mail-order it to your house. +something something the freedom you give up today will be the freedom your children will never know. +--- 58074359 +>>58073804 +>Nooooo, nobody can do anything about a problem unless it's a pancea cure that solves everything instantly in one step +Firearms restrictions and raising the qualifications of owership have been shown to work. Yes, it would take time to attrite the number of guns in circulation, but it would and has worked. You just don't like the concept because it conflicts with your personal desires. You can't however complain about the efficacy of it. It will take a lot of changes and time to bring down the violent crime rate. Focusing on skin color is just willful ignorance and ignores the forest for a single tree. + +>>58073715 +>1966 UT tower shooting: 17 dead, 31 injured +There were plenty of school shootings. The amount of deaths just wasn't high because you're not going to be able to kill many people quickly with a break action shotgun. As semi-automatics with higher magazine capacities proliferated into the market (circa 1980s), the number of dead in each incident went up. Controllable, rapid fire is good at shooting multiple, non-static targets. That's a simple fact. +--- 58074376 +>>58074269 +Can you repeat that, but without (insert cracker confederate south state here) accent? +--- 58074397 +>>58074349 +>$600 for a 1911 +Have to adjust for people's incomes being much lower. $22 in 1916 would represent the same portion of income to an average worker as ~$1,800 would today. +--- 58074399 +>>58067564 +>which guns that won't be around in 100 years +I never really thought of that as a reality. +--- 58074421 +>>58074359 +>semi autos got proliferated later +You have no idea what youre talking about. +In those same catalogues we see posted here you could get M2 carbines surplus from korea and WW2 for a steal. +>high capacity +>semi auto +>soft shooting +>lightweight +--- 58074423 +>>58074359 +13/50 is constant across countries without guns, shit, rwandans killed a million hutus in 90 days with fuckin machetes +--- 58074432 +>>58074397 +sure I just meant that buying a 1911 in 1916 is like buying top of the line gucci stuff today. and there was a war on. +--- 58074457 +>>58074421 +oh and I forgot: 14 year-olds could mail-order them to their doorstep no questions asked. +--- 58074497 +>>58074421 +They were a marginal percent of the market. It wasn't until the 80s and 90s that they entered the mainstream. It's why the machine gun registry is so small. In 1986, something like an MG was a niche thing for weirdos into an obscure hobby. +--- 58074590 +>>58074497 +ooops bad typo, of course I meant the M1 not the M2/M3. since you know the NFA and all that. so machine guns dont really matter in this discussion. + +Self-loading rifles were neither weird nor stupidly expensive. People buy what they can afford. And especially if you're looking for something soft shooting and lightweight, crates upon crates of M1 surplus were probably your go to back then. You'd be the weirdo if you didn't buy one, simply because they were abundant and cheap. +--- 58074656 +>>58073120 +That XC-900 is strangely aesthetic, in a shitty pipegun kind of way. +I have no clue what the fuck is going on with those sights. +--- 58074663 +>>58073689 +--- 58074692 +Just to expand on it further: the LAST batch of M1s to be surplused (about 240,000) of them got sold to NRA members for $20 a pop. Thats $200 today for a "last chance" at an M1. +And everyone from Malcom X to Audie Murphy had one. +--- 58074700 +>>58074590 +Semi-autos like ARs were in fact pretty rare and more expensive. As price went down and they became popular, the tools chaged. +--- 58074726 +>>58074692 +>malcom x and audie murphy +One person with a revolutionary ideology and credible death threats. Another person a veteran and extremely avid sport shooter. + +Not really a representative sample of the population friend. +--- 58075452 +>>58070096 +Hand fitting was cheaper back then because that’s how all mid line and up guns were made back then. That’s how economies of scale work. And today hand fitting is a cottage industry. +--- 58075536 +>>58070010 +The Mare’s leg is a fantasy gun developed for movies in the 1950s. +--- 58075562 +>>58073437 +You are trying to ascribe logic to an ideology that relies on its adherents rejecting such thought. +--- 58075788 +>>58074376 +>Ayo nigga wut you be sayin, like fuck you mean nomsayin +That better, hun? +--- 58075852 +>>58074376 +lol nigger +--- 58076071 +>>58074700 +As you can see here >>58067449, you could buy a Winchester model 1907 in 1912 for the same price as you could an AR today. Did you even read the rest of this thread, or are you just here to bait? +--- 58076267 +>>58075788 +>>58075852 +Crackers be mad +>t. Pasty white Pole +--- 58076279 +>>58076267 +You're the one ranting about big white poles. You gay bro? +--- 58076305 +>>58076279 +The fuck are you inhaling, cause it sure as shit isn't oxygen +--- 58076322 +>>58074359 +Go post your Loli Shit and Opinions on /b/ you Liberal Groomer Puke. +--- 58076361 +>>58076267 +Post guns with time stamp +--- 58076438 +>>58076361 +>Verification not required. +--- 58076450 +>>58067458 +Why is the steven's tip-up pistol so expensive, comparatively? +--- 58076504 +>>58076450 +The nickel plating maybe? They're also known for high accuracy +--- 58076511 +>>58072469 +> Now adjust for average income. +No adjust for price in pre 1965 90% silver coins +Ar-15, and budget level but moa bolt guns have come way down in price. Most nice stuff is way up especially surplus +--- 58076550 +>>58069200 +>“”“NRA GOOD””” +--- 58076597 +>>58072441 +Ah, the retro soiface +--- 58077125 +>get back from work +>50 new posts in the thread +>they're mostly just retards arguing about gun laws as if doing so here will every be even remotely productive +--- 58077221 +>>58077211 +--- 58077235 +>>58077221 +--- 58077250 +>>58077235 +--- 58077258 +>>58077250 +--- 58077287 +>>58077258 +--- 58077289 +>>58077258 +Lord have mercy I'm 'bout to bust +--- 58077308 +>>58077287 +--- 58077326 +>>58077308 +--- 58077340 +>>58077326 +--- 58077353 +>>58077340 +--- 58077356 +>>58067983 +2 weeks?! Well ain't this place just a geographical oddity, 2 weeks from everywhere!! +--- 58077362 +>>58077353 +--- 58077408 +>>58067412 (OP) +> says $1 from back then equals $30.80 today for easy adjustment. +What a stupid metric. In 1913 the dollar was gold. +$1 of US gold today has a melt value of $99.20. +--- 58077501 +Lebeau duelling pistols set - 250 roubles. +Savage pistol - 34 roubles in lux package, 28 roubles in common package. +Broomhandle Mauser - 38 roubles for simple pack, 40 with stock, 45 lux, 48 lux with stock. +Pocket M1910 Mauser - 22 roubles. +Luger P08 - 43 roubles, Luger P06 - 38 roubles +Artillery Luger - 58 lux, 52 common, 18 rouble discount for stockless package. + +Street sweapers earned 18 roubles, elementary school teachers earned 25, paramedic - 40 roubles, gymnasium teacher earned 85 roubles, army general earned around 325 roubles. Damn, having nice things never was easy. +--- 58077563 +7mm german military type rifle, 200 roubles with a telecsopic sight. +--- 58077576 +Not a gun, but still an old /k/ related ad +--- 58077591 +Boer Mauser, 70 roubles, with dum-dums for 19 roubles. +Pieper-Martini made in Tula, 29 roubles. +--- 58077592 +>>58077576 +--- 58077611 +>>58077591 +What year? +--- 58077637 +>>58077611 +Must be 1900s-1910s. After Revolution gun purchase was done only in person in shops, no cool catalogs. +--- 58077674 +>>58077637 +I thought it must be pre revolution. I like that they are drawn, but then I guess most catalogues at that time were. +--- 58077714 +>>58072441 +>>58076597 +lol +--- 58077831 +>>58074432 +U.S didn't get involved until 1917 +--- 58078014 +>>58077353 +what year is this ?? +--- 58078124 +>>58077831 + +Yeah but then we mopped the floor with those Krauts +--- 58078138 +>>58072441 +No shit. I've owned a Remington 514 for over 20 years. Its been the first shot fired for dozens of shooters. Light, no kick, not black and scary. + +Single shot bolt action 22. Massive sight radius with a 24" barrel means you can never miss. I love that dumb little boys rifle. +--- 58079088 +>>58067983 +Honestly sad. Though holy shit would I be (even more) poor if I could just order guns to my door. Even more if I could COD in cash. +--- 58079134 +>>58077501 +>Street sweapers earned 18 roubles, elementary school teachers earned 25, paramedic - 40 roubles, gymnasium teacher earned 85 roubles, army general earned around 325 roubles. +Is that roubles per year for how much they earn? Monthly? +--- 58079625 +>>58077362 +>>58077353 +>>58077340 +>>58077326 +>>58077308 +>>58077258 +>>58077235 +>>58077221 +>>58077211 +I'm so mad i think im just gonna jack off. fuck this. . fuck being born post 86, goddamn do i hate gun prices. +--- 58080220 +>>58079134 +Yup, monthly. Dom forget that they also had additional spendings, like rent, firewood, clothes repair, many companies used to charge workers with fines. And, of course, earliest gun control measures after 1905. +--- 58080302 +>>58067726 +More or less. An actual Colt SAA will set you back more than that, but the vast number of clones would not. + +>>58068019 +I'd buy their entire stock. I love my trapdoor. +--- 58080922 +>>58074359 +If we removed every black person from the US gun crime would drop to upper European levels even further down if we removed both blacks and hispanics +--- 58080975 +>>58067983 +>2 weeks +Sears took six weeks in the 1980s, so in 1912 it was probably 2 months. diff --git a/k/58067583.txt b/k/58067583.txt index 86e6ba8dc93457eb35418b797fde73d8e930492b..6273324d2d5cc2caaa852608ed1ca1016e4d3709 100644 --- a/k/58067583.txt +++ b/k/58067583.txt @@ -168,3 +168,504 @@ They got calls from India: Do Not Turn The Key Sirs! precisely to prevent it. someone has to be a good guy in a sea of evil --- 58070162 Absolutely I turn my key. The best way to save my family is to destroy enemy nuke sites. +--- 58071836 +>>58069316 +What a faggot +--- 58071967 +>>58069234 +this is how they already do it retard +--- 58072009 +>>58067583 (OP) +I triggered it 35 minutes ago. +--- 58072236 +>>58067583 (OP) +I lost my key a couple off months ago sir, I didn't tell anyone so I wouldn't get in trouble. +--- 58072266 +>>58070033 +The world needs more men like Vasily Aleksandrovich Arkhipov. +--- 58072275 +>>58067583 (OP) +Yes sir. Early and often. +--- 58072382 +>>58068179 +>>58068896 +>>58069019 +Calm the fuck down General Tao, we're not actually at defcon 1 yet. Why are you so pissed at randos on the internet? +--- 58072520 +>>58067583 (OP) +Already did when we started the shift, I've been waiting for you to stop being a bitch and turn yours. Now put your gun down before I fuck you with jt +--- 58072541 +>>58068883 +Or Austin, fuck Austin +>>58072266 +No, the world is actively made worse by the existence of men like him. Let's get this show on the road +--- 58072601 +>>58068129 +Kek +--- 58072741 +>>58072382 +Here's the thing. Even if it was a false order or whatever, it would mean only a few missiles would be launched, blowing up a few subhuman cities. There's a very high chance that they wouldn't retaliate because they'd understand that it wasn't intentional. If they do retaliate then we can *actually* wipe them off the map, they understand this. So most likely they'll just cry about muh reparations and we get to blow up a couple of their cities for free. +So yeah, I'd turn the key without hesitation, and anyone who isn't a nigger jew subhuman communist traitor would too. +--- 58072869 +>>58072741 +Mate they dont wait till kaboom, they go on confirmed launch detection. + +In 83 it was only cos petrov didnt trust his equipment that false launch detection didnt start ww3. +--- 58072876 +Nah just fucking blast me. + +Go down as the man who saved humanity. + +Like that Russian submarine guy who didn't do it. +--- 58072888 +>>58072876 + +Better yet, resolve the situation peacefully. + +We have these systems to prevent global war. + +The mere threat of nuclear attack is political power. +--- 58072917 +>>58072888 +Kill yourself leftist traitor, go back to r*ddit +--- 58072949 +So many fucking liberal traitors ITT, and they have the gall to call us traitors +>>58072869 +Vatnigger torpedo would've missed anyway. It takes a lot to hit and sink an American carrier, even with a nuclear warhead. +--- 58072951 +>>58072917 +>comes to /k/ +>don't understand MAD +>doesn't understand what a leftist is +>tells others to go to plebbit +I hope this is bait and you aren't really this stupid. +--- 58072957 +>>58072917 + +Okay Dr. Strangelove. + +This would destroy the USA. + +It would destroy human civilization itself + +That's not serving your country, that's not loyalty + +That's being a normal fucking human being + +You have no regard for the lives of innocents + +Or the lives of innocent Americans in the USA. + +Are the non-existent Soviet communists coming after your bodily fluids? +--- 58072967 +>>58072949 +You're fucking crazy bro. I don't care for leftism, and I don't care for getting the USA destroyed in nuclear fire. You know there is a lot of space between those two positions. +--- 58072980 +>>58072951 +You're the one who doesnt understand, or fails on purposes because you're a traitor. When your job is to launch nukes you must follow orders to the letter, communist kike +--- 58072991 +>>58072957 +I traitors like you get your comeuppance. Western civilization is being destroyed by evil subhumans like you +--- 58072997 +>>58072980 +So anyone that questions the actions of their government is a traitor, do you fully support Trump and Biden in everything they have done? I hope so, you wouldn't want to be a traitor. +--- 58073003 +>>58072967 +Not when you're order to launch nukes in defense of your nation +--- 58073024 +>>58072997 +Your at the controls of your nations strategic weapons. It's not about Trump or Biden anymore, it's about the survival of your nation and your people. You must follow orders unless youre a nigger kike subhuman. God I hope trash like you get sorted properly +--- 58073047 +Fucking jewlywood movies ruined a generation of young men. On purpose I bet, in order to weaken our nation's strategic posture +--- 58073069 +Fucking leftists call *us* traitors yet they'd drop the ball and abandon our nation in her most decisive moment +--- 58073079 +>>58072967 +Your nuke isn't aimed at the USA, "bro" +Fucking gas all zoomers +--- 58073080 +>>58068173 +JERRY THE SILO DOORS ARE CLOSED! +--- 58073081 +>>58072967 +You're a traitor to your nation and you should kys. +--- 58073113 +From this thread, we can see that, turns out when push comes to shove, Western civilization still needs absolutely right wing nationalist Nazi men to defend her, just like how Azov's been defending Ukraine since 2014. Leftists are unreliable at best, traitors at worst. +--- 58073160 +>>58067583 (OP) +No. Solely out of spite. +Fucktard could have asked nicely but no he had to pull a gun on me. +Fuck him, he can shoot me but then he won't be able to turn both keys. +You know what? I'll try and rape him as a matter of principle. +--- 58073244 +>>58073113 +Ironic that it's always men like this that get vilified and demonized by the subhumans in everyday society, yet whenever shit goes down they're called upon to defend that very society +--- 58073267 +>>58073113 +>>58073244 +So I assume both of you strong nationalist men are enlisted and willing to prove it with a timestamp covering your name tape? +--- 58073298 +>>58073267 +Kill yourself traitor +--- 58073313 +Every fucking day I hate leftists more and more +--- 58073325 +>>58073298 +Show nose faggot. +--- 58073327 +>>58073298 +So you are so willing to defend your nation in online hyperthetical shitposting but actually making a sacrifice IRL is a bit much? What would the fuhrer say? +--- 58073337 +jfc he's still going +--- 58073439 +>>58072980 +>When your job is to launch nukes you must follow orders to the letter +Oh but when your job is to shoot jews following it to the letter makes you a criminal? +Just because you have orders doesn't mean you should follow them especially if you have a retarded fuckwit the likes of (you) as superior. +--- 58073442 +>>58072869 +If they see just a couple of launches, not an all-out strike, they'd wait and see what happens. +--- 58073476 +>>58073439 +>Oh but when your job is to shoot jews following it to the letter makes you a criminal? +It doesn't? What the fuck? I'd shoot jews without orders. +Fucking normies want us to be pro-war? Well, be careful what you wish for. +--- 58073496 +>>58073327 +I'm fucking Canadian, and I grew up wanting to serve in the US military, but my parents stopped me. I am now past that time and regret it ever since. +--- 58073504 +>>58073496 +>be patriot +>want to serve in another nations military +--- 58073507 +>>58073113 +This is absolutely correct. Disgusting to see so many fucking hollywood-brainwashed communist traitors call themselves my "countrymen". Fucking sickening. +--- 58073522 +>>58073504 +I'm an American patriot because ever since I read Tom Clancy in my formative years, I became American at heart. You'd never understand because you're a nigger jew subhuman trash communist traitor. +--- 58073524 +>>58073504 +Literally every US service member does this for Israel +--- 58073564 +If you "support Ukraine" but can't even launch nukes in defense of your nation, then you're a subhuman normie at best, a jewish traitor at worst. +--- 58073598 +>>58067583 (OP) +Loyalty to humanity comes before loyalty to country. Anyone stupid and subhuman enough to participate in a nuclear exchange should not be proud of themselves and is exactly the reason we'll never meaningfully colonize other planets before wiping ourselves out +--- 58073634 +>>58073564 +I support Ukraine because they are defending from an attacker, how exactly do you use ICBMs as a defensive weapon after MAD has failed? +--- 58073660 +>>58073476 +>It doesn't? +Except it did, that's the point. +During the Nuremberg Trials most defendants argued that they followed superior orders which hat to be followed. +Which wasn't considered a permissible defense and quite a few were executed for following their orders. +As a consequence that means just having orders is insufficient and mindlessly following them can be punished. +--- 58073732 +>>58073564 +I don't support slavs of any kind. +How do I turn the key with the assurance that a few nukes land short, taking care of the poles and ukies? +--- 58073813 +>>58073496 +>autist screeches about how we should just nuke everyone because they definitely won't fight back and if you disagree you're a traitor +>it's not even an american, nor a human, but a fucking leaf +--- 58073900 +>>58070018 +>>>/r/eddit +go back +--- 58073950 +>>58073900 +But that's from /tv/ +--- 58073962 +>>58070004 +Those keys are made of titanium for a reason. +--- 58073965 +Lol, there is no proofs that electronic circuit has logic, that check turn keys in one moment, it's movies plot. You just need to shoot doubting traitor, stand and turn his key after your's. +--- 58073986 +>>58073634 +>MAD has failed +This means we have to sit here and take it instead of launching our nukes in response. +What the fuck is with this cuckold logic? Someone explain to me. Is this from lack of testosterone? Brown skin? Hollywood leftist propaganda? Something else? Or is this guy fucking with me? Genuinely can't understand. + +>>58073660 +Nuremberg Trials are show trials by victors, who rightfully got their spoils. Are you seriously trying to convince me not to launch nuclear weapons when given the order to do so? What the fuck? +--- 58073999 +>>58073660 +Kill yourself traitor cuck. I hope no one within your extended family isn't anywhere near our great nation's defense. You fucking subhumans ought to be hanged +--- 58074009 +>>58067583 (OP) +>ell? Would you turn the /k/ey? +If I took the job I do the job otherwise I am a thief and a liar. I knew it was never my decision to make and I joined a military structure when I obey orders. There is careful selection for teh role and if I had expressed unease I would never have been in this position. I do my job, I choose my job. They key is turned. Mine is not to reason why mine is to turn the fucking key and die. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj9M34DzAKo [Embed] +--- 58074015 +>>58073660 +Yeah if we lose the nuclear war and are judged by subhuman chinks and vatnigs, yes, launching would be considered a crime. +We launch to prevent that outcome. +--- 58074018 +>>58068576 +None of them work your chances are good. +--- 58074036 +>>58072876 +The word hero is grossly overused but not for that officer. Besides, this is assuming the whole system works with those giant 70’s floppy discs. +--- 58074049 +>>58074036 +They were replaced and modernised years ago +--- 58074054 +>>58073986 +>This means we have to sit here and take it instead of launching our nukes in response +Not what I said, I asked what does launching defend from? +--- 58074059 +>>58072876 +Go suck off more vatnigs, traitor. Vatnigger torpedo can't sink American aircraft carriers, nuclear tipped or not. +--- 58074068 +>>58074054 +From the subhumans inheriting the Earth. +--- 58074076 +>>58067583 (OP) +Nukes are old hat. The real question is when a gene-tailored virus starts killing off your country men are you willing to unleash your own gene-tailored viruses on your closest geopolitical rival's ethnic groups without any proof they actually did it? + +Unlike nukes viruses can be engineered and released anonymously. Mutually Assured Destruction doesn't work well with the newer kind of doomsday weapons. +--- 58074082 +>>58074036 +>the whole system works with those giant 70’s floppy discs. +https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/nuclear-weapons-floppy-disks.html + +Oct. 24, 2019 +Update Complete: U.S. Nuclear Weapons No Longer Need Floppy Disks +The Defense Department has transitioned away from a 1970s-era nuclear command and control system that relied on eight-inch floppy disks. The “modernizing” effort was quietly completed in June. +--- 58074094 +>>58074082 +>>58074036 +>>58074049 +“The Air Force completed a replacement of the aging SACCS floppy drives with a highly secure solid-state digital storage solution in June,” Justin Oakes, a spokesman for the Eighth Air Force, said in an email. “This replacement effort exponentially increased message storage capacity and operator response times for critical nuclear command and control message receipt and processing.” +--- 58074095 +>>58074076 +>The real question is when a gene-tailored virus starts killing off your country men are you willing to unleash your own gene-tailored viruses on your closest geopolitical rival's ethnic groups without any proof they actually did it? +If I fucking voluntarily signed up for the military and for that job, absolutely. +--- 58074097 +>>58067583 (OP) +>why are you aiming a gun at me?? +>put that down and lets do this +--- 58074105 +>>58073634 +Fucking normie r*dditor spotted. Go back. +--- 58074112 +>>58067583 (OP) +"TURN THE KEY, SIR!" +"I thought you'd never ask :-)" +--- 58074122 +>>58074095 +What if you find out that only continental Africans will survive the gene wars because nobody bothered tailoring viruses for them? +--- 58074126 +>>58072741 +>There's a very high chance that they wouldn't retaliate because they'd understand that it wasn't intentional +lol +lmao, even +--- 58074133 +>>58074095 +That's it. You accepted the job were given endless time to think about it or withdraw and you took the job. The job is to turn the fucking key. If you are striking the enemies nuclear arsenal you promptly turning the key as ordered may save the lives of some of your fellow soldiers, citizens or family members. The key is turned. +>>58073660 +The people turning they key don't know what the target code is targeting. As far as they are concerned it is a military facility like an enemy missile silo in siberia. No war crime. +>>58073962 +--- 58074137 +>>58073442 +No, standing SOP is to assume that a few initial strikes are aimed at your radar so you won't see the massive wave of missiles coming next. + +Have you ever read anything at all about this subject, or are you just talking out your ass? +--- 58074141 +The fucking left side of this spectrum are showing their true face ITT + +>>58074122 +If I had fucking joined the military and got to the position by choice, it must mean I support what they're doing, which must mean niggers would not be spared. Doubting them would be doubting myself. I'd follow my orders and live or die with my conviction. +--- 58074147 +>>58067583 (OP) +Huh? It's already been turned, it taped it I to the on position when I got here and took a nap, I trust the other guy not to fuck it up +--- 58074148 +>>58074105 +NTA but It is you who needs to leave. Total Zigger Death +--- 58074152 +>>58074148 +Yeah, total zigger death, but many leftist traitors ITT don't seem to want that. +--- 58074170 +>>58074152 +Left and Right wing extremist quislings should be interned or executed if they disseminate enemy propaganda in time of war or undertake coup attempts incited by enemy propaganda whether marxist or populists. The tree of liberty is watered with the blood of traitors. +--- 58074175 +scene is completely unhinged from reality + +Nuke silo and sub teams are constantly drilled on launching. They'll get an order and have to go through the motions of a full launch, only they won't be given valid launch codes. Theory is that they'll be used to going through the motions and won't know if it's a real launch until they've already "pushed the button". Realistically in this situation the airman or sailor who refused the order would be immediately removed and probably chaptered out +--- 58074214 +>>58074152 +I think the right-wingers willing to participate in a nuclear exchange are the traitors. If that happens your country and your people will no longer exist, and perhaps not even humanity. I'm sure you'll feel like a real good boy burning in hell while the irradiated survivors are lynching any uniform-wearing idiot they find for ruining the world because some dipshit insane politician told them to and they forgot they had free will. +--- 58074262 +>>58074214 +My people and nation would have a better chance of existing if I turn the key. And how fucking poetic that the leftoid's version of justice is a post-apocalyptic subhuman lynch mob probably filled with niggers and jews. Kill yourself traitor. +--- 58074323 +>>58074262 +There've been false positive missile detections before and we're all lucky enough to be alive only because some operators were sane enough not to follow orders that didn't make sense. Why roll the dice? +--- 58074325 +Retards like >>58074214 that watched too many movies and now believe Earth will end after a nuclear exchange. This fear mongering only makes us vulnerable to nuclear blackmail by shitholes like russia and only benefits them. Hence why they're traitors. +--- 58074337 +>>58074323 +Do you really not understand how "assuming an enemy launch is just an oopsie" IS rolling the dice? +--- 58074345 +>>58074323 +This is completely false. Operators always turn the key. They're constantly drilled to do so, and they can't tell whether it's an exercise or the real thing. Once the real thing comes, they'll just think it's another exercise. +Those traitors who don't do it get washed out (and hopefully court martialed) +--- 58074351 +>>58074323 +There's never been false positive missile detections that led to an order to launch our nukes. Never. How old are you? +--- 58074356 +>>58074323 +those were people that chose to report radio contacts or not, not people with actual launch authority. Completely different +--- 58074370 +>>58074323 +You must be 18 to post on this board. In this sea of leftist garbage somehow your post comes out as the stupidest one, just from the naivete +--- 58074420 +>>58068346 +>well I was going to but now you've been rude and pointed a gun at me +this +mean people can fuck off +--- 58074504 +>>58074325 +There is nothing to fear except victory and the elimination of anyone who would threaten civilisation, democracy and the free nations. +--- 58074521 +>>58074323 +They were not key turners they were those monitoring radar and making decision of whether they were seeing incoming ICBMs. Specifically a soviet trooper in east Germany who wisely decided Russian equipment could not be trusted (during able archer) +--- 58074537 +>>58069234 + +Contrary to what's portrayed in movies, they've found that launch crews will fire their missiles the vast majority of the time due to the selection process weeding out those likely to hesitate. There's still nonetheless a redunancy called "launch polling" where you have multiple crews for a single missile. Even if one or two pussies out, so long as the majority of the rest "vote" to launch, the missile flies. +--- 58074549 +>>58067583 (OP) +I'd break out the Letter of Last Resort held onboard every nuclear deterrent sub. They are written by the Prime Minister (chillingly in itself) and contain instructions for what to do. Nobody has ever seen one because they are destroyed unopened but speculation is generally they confirm the instruction to launch and head either to Canada or the United States. +--- 58074576 +>>58074420 +>>well I was going to but now you've been rude and pointed a gun at me +This is the most zoomer thing I have ever read +>fr no cap +--- 58074593 +>>58074549 +>I'd break out the Letter of Last Resort held onboard every nuclear deterrent sub. +You don't get too, only the captain gets to read it +--- 58074606 +>>58074576 +im 38 +you just dont tell me what to do +you ask, im a people pleaser so ill do it, but if you tell you have fucked up +--- 58074609 +>>58074549 +>London nuked +>be captain of one of the four Vanguard-class submarines +>open Letter of Last Resort +>"Oh Bloody Hell, this dumb cunt wrote it all in Hindi!" + +What do you do /k/? +--- 58074680 +>>58074133 +Can't we just replace them with like an arduino board or something? +--- 58074708 +>>58067583 (OP) +>being asked to play a key part in the total annihilation of Russia + +I turned my key long before this limp-dicked faggot even fished his out of his pocket. +--- 58074712 +>>58067583 (OP) +I always leave my key turned. I trust the other guy to do the right thing. +--- 58074743 +>>58074105 +>normies +spotted the rdditnigger pretending to not be a crypto-normalfag +however since you are such an obnoxious belligerent retarded nigger, I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually a falseflagging tranny raiding from some trannycord shithole +--- 58074757 +NOOKS are fucking over-hyped, I bet most of the stockpiles don't even work. +USE IT, OR LOSE IT, FAGGOTS! +--- 58074760 +>>58074712 +Yeah gotta warm it up in the morning in case there's haps. +--- 58074771 +>>58074141 +What, no Cucker? +--- 58075993 +>>58067583 (OP) +>"I'm trying, sir, but I keep failing the captcha!" +--- 58077264 +>>58070102 +I'd torture your ass. Traitor. +--- 58077312 +>>58067996 +But what's the idea of personell anyway? Videos seem like they're more of a maintenance and communications crew that just make sure the missile works and launches properly. Not a higher level authority that does sanity and double checking. Seems like they were put there to do the things computers couldnt ( e.g. failover to different comms methods, launch after hit etc ). Procedure seems to include redundant steps and is intensively timed so they can only mechanically execute the tasks with no place for decision making. +--- 58077350 +>>58067619 +Also, the enemy will probably launch a missile at your position anyway. +--- 58077411 +>>58067583 (OP) +>Well? Would you turn the /k/ey? +Only if I was nuking okraina. +--- 58077417 +>>58072741 +I think you're forgetting how many times in the cold war there were false positivies and the only reason civilization didn't end was because someone went "yeah...that sounds like bullshit, I'm calling in to see if anyone else is getting the same signal we are". It wasn't just that one dude in East Germany, there was also a sub flotilla in I think the 60s that the only reason it didn't launch a nuke at the US was because a higher-ranking officer was on the ship with the nuke and refused to give the order to attack when they were being hit with depth charges (the US didn't know it was a sub with nukes) +--- 58077499 +>>58077312 +Personnel are instructed that they can only launch the nukes under the orders of the Secretary of Defense who himself is specifically acting under the President's order. The only exception is Washington is already nuked and the Joint Chiefs of Staff are all dead. +Similarly, in the Soviet Union a nuclear strike required approval of the high command of the Politburo +--- 58077514 +>>58072741 +There is no such thing as nuking "only a few cities." Common wisdom was that any nuclear strike would result in an overwhelming response intent on completely crushing the aggressor rather than tit-for-tat strikes, and that it would be seen as suicidal and insane for either the US or USSR to target only one or a few cities in a nuclear strike by the late '70s-'80s. It was the entire reason so many times people wouldn't launch without further confirmation because why would the enemy have not launched enough to destroy you? +--- 58077552 +>>58069019 +Don't worry, we planned for that. +--- 58077567 +>>58074549 +>canada or the united states +the letters says : +" oy m8 nuke new york , los angeles , use all remaining in israel , glass those wankers son , they did it " +--- 58077575 +>>58068004 +Come to think of it, if they shoot you, they can't launch the missile. The fate of the entire world is in your hands in that moment. Do you destroy humanity or do you save it? The nazis were "just following orders" but you gotta look tough to the other countries like you are really gonna fucking do it even pre-emptively. That's the policy. +--- 58077614 +>>58074076 +The problem is viruses are kinda indiscriminate in who they target so it doesn't work very well as a weapon. Even going on the assumption that everything about the covid lableak was true, China got hit with it harder than anyone so it's kind of a shit form of offense. +--- 58077644 +>>58074549 +>Nobody has ever seen one because they are destroyed unopened +Anyone have what someone wrote up as Boris's supposed letter? +--- 58077663 +>>58077575 +>Come to think of it, if they shoot you, they can't launch the missile. +Come on, you just gotta stretch your arms REAL far and you can reach both key slots +--- 58077862 +>>58068001 +Except it won't be. +Everyone forgets there is literally no (logical and tactical) reason to nuke thirdies in Africa, so it would be nonsensical for any power to aim nukes at it in the first place, let alone actually fire them. +I'm actually convinced the whole reason the 'nuclear winter' horseshit got thought up by the likes of pic related (or a colleague) because some postgrad or something pointed out the colonialist assumption inherent to believing only the developed world matters and the hippie fuck thought 'of yeah? I bet it WOULD...' and started them cooking the numbers +>lol but ok seriously who cares about some niggers +They'd have a far more advanced civilization than the craters in Moscow and New York. +(also we definitely could 'win ' a nuclear exchange, even with everyone with nukes vs the US. Even nonsense scenarios where NATO has turned against the US. It would not be pretty, but we'd survive.) +--- 58078224 +>>58067583 (OP) +To nuke israel? Shit im waiting on you faggot +--- 58078335 +>>58067881 +One of the better examples in modern times of a villain you can completely agree with +> perks +> > avert nuclear war +> > many degenerate major cities obliterated +> > unite the nations of the planet to a single cause +> cons +> > 10 million city dwellers incinerated +Literally a win-win scenario +--- 58078362 +>>58067583 (OP) +What movie is this from again? +--- 58078415 +>>58074049 +>>58074082 +Now they just need to keep the door locked so the pizza guy can’t wander in. + +>>58074094 +They upgraded to 3.5” floppies +--- 58081939 +>>58069263 +>>boomer chokes at turning the key +>>Gen X'er tries to do his job +They are both baby boomers, you fucking retard. diff --git a/k/58067584.txt b/k/58067584.txt index 50bdd8f9c9b2d15f652c2aab648acf448cabdeb4..c035dc486d64a248b4faeff5260e3a7b2a7e1c38 100644 --- a/k/58067584.txt +++ b/k/58067584.txt @@ -94,3 +94,227 @@ The only derringer that makes sense was the old Hi-Standard in 22lr or 22 magnum >>58067584 (OP) >Are deringers a meme? Shoot yourself in the face with one. Write back and let us know how that goes. Post pics & vid, even. +--- 58071006 +>>58070051 +it makes sense prior to the invention of semi auto. Now you stack 7 of those on demand in the same compact dimensions. +--- 58071040 +>>58070051 +Ever since /v/ and /pol/ decided to set up shop on this board maybe 1 in 100 posts are actually intended to be about weapons. OP didn't make this thread to actually post about guns, they just wanted a 500 reply thread seething about trannies. +--- 58071175 +>>58068350 +lmao that scene is from an actual movie? +i saw it in south park when spielberg fucked poor indiana jones. + +hilarious scene. +--- 58071185 +>>58068581 +>>58068813 +>>58069004 +isnt he the dude that pisses liberals and trannies off by asking simple questions? +--- 58071823 +>>58071175 +Deliverance. Squeal like a pig boy. I would again like to reiterate that OP's image is a most delectable slam pig and I would be absolutely delighted to introduce her to carnal arts beyond her wildest imaginings. +--- 58071868 +>>58067584 (OP) +Sauce +--- 58072476 +>>58071185 +he's the dude that abused his wife +--- 58072513 +>>58072476 +Oh the horrors of being asked to walk the dog before a surgery +--- 58072523 +>>58071185 +Not liberals, they're leftoids + +>>58072476 +Non-physical abuse, but yeah— he's a functional sociopath/narcissist, right-wing Ryan Reynolds +--- 58072528 +>>58070051 +A durringur is ideal for keeping two rounds of .44 mag ready to go in your boots or under a summer shirt, you'd be stupid not to. It doesn't print and stops any threat just fine. +--- 58072533 +>>58067584 (OP) +That's Philipp Seymour Hoffman in a wig +--- 58072538 +Is big horn armory sitting on a few pallets of these or some shit? Second thread tonight. +--- 58072542 +>>58071185 +He's also the "I used to be possessed by the bisexual demon, but totally not anymore guys" dude who's crew recently came out with stories of him constantly rubbing his bare nuts on other guys "as a joke". +--- 58072565 +>>58072513 +more like being a controlling multi millionaire that only has one car to ensure his wife can't leave. also it wasn't walking the dog, she was 8 months pregnant and he forced her to put medication on the dog that was toxic to pregnant women +--- 58072579 +>>58071185 +What a natural question that you're legitimately asking. +--- 58074761 +>>58072523 +>Not liberals, they're leftoids +Only noguns quibble over the specific label we use to describe the faggoids. +--- 58074799 +>>58071185 +>>58069004 +>>58068581 +He sure likes exposing his flabby ass to everyone. Sad! +No wonder his wife left +--- 58075046 +>>58072565 +>to ensure his wife cant leave +>like she did leave +>when he was caught with a divorce lawyer +>mystery medecine that to this day no one has actually said what it is +>only evidence of abuse is "watch it", and "i dont love you" + +crowder is cringe but if you cant decipher a basic hit piece like this you dont deserve enfranchisement, litteral goybrain +--- 58075085 +>>58075046 +Nta but >>58074799 +lol +--- 58075214 +>>58075046 +you're delusional if you think only having one car that is outright yours and your wife needs permission to use it while being a multi millionaire isn't psychopathic, controlling behavior. +>also 8 months pregnant +she is borderline disabled at this point. there's a lot a man should let his wife get away with being so close to term. +--- 58075217 +>>58075085 +is there any relevance to my post im missing or did you just want to (you) me? +--- 58075221 +>>58075217 +retard +--- 58075229 +>>58075214 +>borderline disabled +yet she wanted to drive to a grocery store and go shopping? do you see how at every level it just doesnt make any fucking sense, please for god sake i dont care what this homo says or does but can you just use your brain for a second? +--- 58075234 +>>58075217 +The guy is a fat drunk sex offender who runs around his office naked and screaming +--- 58075235 +>>58075214 +>waaaaaaah it's psychopathic, controlling behavior +Why didn't she just leave then? Kill yourself, simp +--- 58075240 +>>58075229 +disabled people can go shopping you fucking retard +--- 58075275 +>>58075240 +so what is it? is she completely incapable of doing anything or is she not. + +why dont i actually just say what i think happened and you can go to town on me if you think im wrong: + +crowder seems like a weird cunt, he probably argued with his wife. they got a divorce. thats it, trying to read anymore into it is fucking stupid. no proof has been shown so far of anything abusive, (she already said it was never physical, so the only argument is it was emotional abuse, which still there is no evidence for) +--- 58075287 +>>58075234 +its curious all the non-anonymous sources are all daily wire employees kek. really makes you thing haha +--- 58075300 +>>58075046 +YOU HAVE TO LET YOUR WIFE DO WHATEVER THE HELL SHE WANTS AT ALL TIMES OR YOURE ABUSING HER!!! +--- 58075329 +>>58075275 +>so what is it? is she completely incapable of doing anything or is she not. +she is 8 months pregnant. if you've ever been around a pregnant woman, let alone the wife of your fucking children, you just let them be. you don't try to manipulate her emotions for taking the one car you share to go to the grocery store because you "can't go to the gym or see your friends". you don't tell your pregnant wife you don't love her because she doesn't want to put medicine on a dog, especially if she has concerns about toxicity of the medication. + +>why dont i actually just say what i think happened and you can go to town on me if you think im wrong: +you're right for the most part but you're missing that he used his show to shit on his wife over the divorce. this is one of the only time the term "power imbalance" can be used to really describe a bad marital dynamic. this is also a man that parades himself as a paragon of trad culture while pulling this bullshit +--- 58075354 +>>58075329 +>noooooo you're not allowed to say you don't like the bitch divorcing you +--- 58075362 +>>58075354 +you really shouldn't act like you're the saving grace of trad culture and then do that when you brought it on yourself, no. +--- 58075367 +>>58075287 +Gangland warfare between the mentally “other abled” +--- 58075382 +>>58075362 +>you really shouldn't act like you're the saving grace of trad culture +I don't even know who this dude is, I just think it's funny that SJWs like you say you're not allowed to have your own opinion if your wife disagrees +--- 58075383 +>>58075329 +>you just let them be +maybe this is an uncomfortable truth but pregnant women being incoherent is pretty well understood and it doesn't just effect the woman, it bleeds into the man dealing with her. all the rest about car journeys and toxic dog medicine is just fluff, the "i dont love you" is bad, but what else can i say lmao, its not cool, but its not abusive, things like that happen with two highly stressed out people + +>he used his show to shit on his wife over the divorce +this was inevitable given crowders trade, he had to say that she wanted it because divorce is a big no-no to tradcucks. as far as im aware he only started using his platform after her lawyers started leaking things to the press. im eagerly awaiting the crowder pushback since this is ramping up to be a nice depp-heard tier car crash +--- 58075403 +>>58075383 +agree to disagree I suppose. there is no situation that I would ever treat my wife like he did his, especially if she's working on giving me another child. +--- 58075440 +>>58075403 +id assume you're a young guy, I am too. but having been in some pretty emotional fights you really lose the urge to play nice and cuck out to someone else's whims, especially if someone is playing the "I'm so abused woe is me card". maybe that will change if i get a girl pregnant but i doubt it, im just not gonna pretend that you can always be emotionally detached and cool headed + +it could be ive dealt with a girl with bpd and its effecting my thinking though +--- 58075556 +>>58075440 +>you really lose the urge to play nice and cuck out to someone else's whims +you gain nothing by fighting with women, ever. look past to every fight you've ever had with a woman and try to think about a positive that came from it. the older you get, the more you'll realize this. you're not cucking out to someone else's whims, you're choosing not to engage a zero sum game. when you have legitimate grievance with a woman, you should lay it out as blunt as you can and give her the expected consequence for not listening. an example would be "if you go to Michigan without me for a week to visit a group of friends I've never met, you're not going to have a place to come home to." + +>it could be ive dealt with a girl with bpd and its effecting my thinking though + +I will concede that I am exceptionally cool headed but it has stemmed from a lifetime of mentally ill women doing their god damn best to ruin me emotionally. I went inpatient when I was 26 because I let a girl with BPD into my life but I'm better off for it in the long run lmao +--- 58075649 +>>58075556 +>you gain nothing by fighting with women, ever. look past to every fight you've ever had with a woman and try to think about a positive that came from it. the older you get, the more you'll realize this. you're not cucking out to someone else's whims, you're choosing not to engage a zero sum game. +jesus fucking christ anon this may be the most profound statement I've seen on this site. +--- 58075705 +>>58075214 +You are the one that is delusional if you would let your 8 months pregnant wife drive at all you retard. +>psycopathic, controlling behaviour +Back to plebbit. +--- 58075736 +>>58075649 +profoundly retarded maybe +--- 58075908 +Pretty much. A compact pistol can get you much more capacity and non-meme calibers without that much more size. + +On the budget side, a Tarus GC3 gets you 13 rounds of 9mm for just a bit over six inches by 5 inches, of shave off an inch of height and get it down to 18.5 ounces with the GX4. I think some are even a bit smaller. That gets you ok capacity with 9mm, which is a fine round. + +If you need anything smaller you need to consider if you're being a retard who is bringing a gun somewhere they shouldn't be lol. + +But, if there is a need, Keltec (yeah, I know) has a 5" by 3.5" 7 round .32 APC. + +That is probably too small but go smaller and the handling will be dog shit, the gun will be terrible at even close distances, hard to practice with and maintain, and have shit stopping power. When you reach a point where you have to be close and aren't inflicting big wounds (some of these calibers have bounced off people's skulls at close range without pen, a famous serial killer took one round of .22 to the head without pen before the second one got him, Dean Croll). You are better off with a knife or baton at that point, which can be concealed easier even if they are longer. Pepper spray too. + +They don't even work as a deterrent because people with think they are fake. + +Most situations, and all home defense situations where I know the layout and have barriers I can control, I would take a hammer, hatchet, etc. over one of these stupid things, and in many even a smaller knife might do better. +--- 58075944 +>>58075908 +>bringing a gun somewhere they shouldn't be +No such place exists. You should bring a gun anywhere you're physically able. If you can find a way to best the sensors you should do it and bring that shit on planes. +--- 58077397 +>>58075275 +Mate, if you're a multi-millionaire and you don't own more than 1 vehicle so your wife cannot leave without your knowledge, you are a controlling faggot. + +If you tell your wife your love for her is conditional and based entirely around walking the dog and cleaning the house, you are a controlling faggot and a sociopath. + +If you spend all your time on the internet pretending you're a man's man while being a controlling abusive psycho, you might be a controlling faggot. + +Imagine unironically sticking up for a literal fucking fraud of a human being like Crowder. +--- 58078060 +>>58071185 +he's why you will all lose your gun rights +--- 58078110 +>>58071823 +The guy doing the buttfucking is a pretty chill and cool dude. +https://youtu.be/qlOt4IyRdg8 [Embed] +--- 58078671 +>>58075908 +>Keltec (yeah, I know) has a 5" by 3.5" 7 round .32 APC +The P3-AT is only a cunt hair bigger than the P32. +--- 58078793 +>>58075235 +she did leave lol Crowders on Twitter QQing about how it should be illegal for women to leave their man like the little bitch he is +--- 58078895 +>>58075235 +Oh boy, you used the word simp, you won. +--- 58079299 +>>58074799 +>source: fake news +Ok retard +--- 58079386 +>>58067584 (OP) +Post her bussy. +--- 58079389 +>>58067584 (OP) +would +>>58079386 +This. diff --git a/k/58068037.txt b/k/58068037.txt index a8737f486bfd32a1c9a93700a98c77512554cdb8..20773cd78983d94e9bec5addbab65ac531f96e29 100644 --- a/k/58068037.txt +++ b/k/58068037.txt @@ -11,8 +11,6 @@ Because one is made by Americans and the other is made by vodka inhabiting an al --- 58068081 >>58068037 (OP) so is this three fuel depot explosions in as many days? I am losing track of which is which ---- 58068090 -/k/ope, piggers and enjoy your chadsneed strikes))))))))))))))))) --- 58068102 >>58068090 That's in Russia, petukhi @@ -306,3 +304,445 @@ No, he clearly loves it --- 58070795 that's a ukrainian krasnodar mmmmm roasted piggies)))) +--- 58071136 +>>58068631 +You do understand that the more precise version of GPS is encrypted and the Russians do not have access to it? +--- 58071168 +>>58068195 +They're doing a bad job there too +--- 58071179 +>>58068037 (OP) +If they injured my boy I'll become a full blown vatnik +--- 58071559 +>>58069171 +I hope so because it would finally let me finish this throbbing boner I've had for eight months +--- 58071593 +>>58069107 +they're a weak spot when you're russia +--- 58071594 +>>58070576 +THERE ARE NO INNOCENTS +THERE IS NO PEACE +ONLY BANAN +AND THE LAUGHTER OF GIANT CATS +--- 58071622 +>>58068303 +It's already started +--- 58071633 +>>58068281 +>American doesn't provide weapons to hit Russian clay and it would seriously undermine Ukraine's hopes for certain weapon systems if they were ever caught using American weapons that way. +I hear that a lot, but I haven't seen any evidence of that. Is this new russian agenda or what? +--- 58071645 +>>58068037 (OP) +--- 58071646 +>>58068232 +Yes. Most of the Soviet's scientific achievements were developed off the back of Ukrainians or Germans. Russia purged everyone with a brain multiple times, and could do nothing but steal or coerce to remain competitive with the west. + +Russia is fighting one of the few counties that made the Soviet Union worth anything at all. +--- 58071652 +>>58068061 +>Why can't Russian Shaheeds hit shit +There's nothing left to hit in Kiev govt controlled territories. +--- 58071658 +>>58071136 +take pills schizo +--- 58071663 +>>58071658 +He's right though. The commercial version of GPS is different to the full thing +--- 58071723 +>>58071663 +he's not +--- 58071765 +>>58071745 +>globohomo +Haven't heard that in a while, why russians forgot about it? +--- 58071769 +>>58071723 +Yes he is you fucking retard +--- 58071783 +>>58071745 +The only homos I'm seeing here is you russkies. But projecting has always been your strong suit, I suppose. +--- 58071792 +>>58071745 +--- 58071806 +>>58068037 (OP) +The eyebrow is being dusted off right as we speak + +The world shall tremble at pozzner's might +--- 58071815 +>>58071797 +Who says that? Your cum/chug/ tranny groomer friends over at lefty/pol/? +--- 58071845 +>>58071815 +You can tell how only retarded threads like this one thrive here while anything even remotely technical gets 5 posts and flames out. +It's little better during US daytime when east euros are asleep but not much. +--- 58071861 +>>58071783 +global hegemony, like in democratic party doctrine anon, not the gay sex stuff. +--- 58071866 +>>58071797 +You are wrong +--- 58071867 +>>58071745 +>globohomo +gulaghomo +--- 58071876 +>>58071861 +Are you ABSOLUTELY sure these /pol/tards haven't long since combined that with some homo agenda in their mind? +--- 58071887 +>>58071797 +You are literally retarded +https://gssc.esa.int/navipedia/index.php/GPS_Performances +--- 58071890 +>>58071815 +Could be, when slat armor on Ukrainian vehicles is shown to /chug/gers they believe it's modifications to Russian cope cages but done wrong +--- 58071898 +>>58071887 +Anon he's just going to double down on his retardation +--- 58071908 +>>58071866 +No I'm not and even if US govt decides to degrade gps again it would be irrelevant these days since you can just use non-globohomo constellations. +--- 58071922 +>>58071908 +>non-globohomo constellations + +GLONAS and the shitty chink version is shit man. Enjoy your accuracy down to 150m, we'll be at the 150cm range +--- 58071984 +>>58071922 +I can completely block use of GPS on my Huawei phone and still have same accuracy since there are three other gnss constellations orbiting the earth. +I feel like inability to turn off gps on western phones is there just so US can make them less precise if they decided so and probably why Huawei has option to turn that trojan horse completely off. +--- 58072038 +>>58071984 +>comparing phones with military equipment + +Ngmi +--- 58072045 +>>58071984 +>Huawei has option to turn trojan horse completely off +Suuuure. +Also checked quads ;^) +--- 58072051 +>>58071887 +>>58071898 +>military positioning - Precise Positioning Service (PPS) Performances +>Global Accuracy < 36 m +Doesn't that sound strange to you two geniuses when your shitty phone has ~3m accuracy? +Thing is there are no separate military and civilian signals since the late 90s so you're kinda right just 30 years late. +--- 58072121 +>>58072106 +>globohomo + +There's that word again +--- 58072193 +>>58071984 +Huawei probably has some other creepy way to monitor you for the Chinese government. +--- 58072228 +>>58071745 +Globohomo >>>> BRICS. Sneed. +--- 58072245 +>>58068080 +You can't even imagine what shit we use to make those drones. It would be interesting to use US manufacturing power to make kamikaze UAVs for that kind of purpose. But no, everything is made from pure chinesium. +--- 58072281 +>>58068303 +How many refineries do they have? +--- 58072313 +>>58071136 +They could probably try to use Galileo, the high-precision version is open for commercial use. Although they probably block Russian users or users in warzones anyway. +--- 58072319 +>>58072281 +See +>>58068210 +--- 58072423 +>>58069279 +It's actually even worse than that. +Let's say that the absolute worst is true and Ukraine is taking unsustainable 7:1 casualties, and is eventually forced to sue for piece and Russia gobbles up a bunch of Ukraine's eastern coast. +This is not over. +It will NEVER be over. +If Putin thinks that after this is done, that Ukraine will become a neutral nation the way Austria and Finland were after WW2, then he is fucking delusional. +They might go "neutral" (on paper) but the second a war between Russia and NATO breaks out, Ukraine WILL allow NATO to move through their borders and will seek to return to their Budapest Memoranda period territories. +Should Putin seek to occupy all of Ukraine, not only will he have literally put NATO on even more of his borders but he will be dealing with endless drone attacks. +This isn't the Cold War; the CIA isn't so shy that they won't funnel a steady supply quadcopters and surplus M26A2 handgrenades into Russian territory. +They'll probably organize the terror cells themselves. +The smartest move by Putin would be to sue for peace, try to gobble up a sliver of land for that Crimea land bridge he invaded to get, declare to his people that they have attained their strategic objective and end this before he gets defenistrated. +--- 58072440 +>>58071792 +Be the America that Chinese propaganda says you are. +--- 58072449 +>>58069171 +IMO they'd better start on the 8th to make Victory Day already a bit bitter. +--- 58072462 +>>58072449 +while ru aa and majority of t90m-s are busy in Moscow being lined up for the parade +--- 58072466 +>>58072106 +My L.T got lost while holding this at Ft. Polk, along with a map and a compass just in case he was confused. +We went on what can only be described as some sort of recreation the Bataan Death March through the swamps of Louisiana. +The local guy who was part of the training group attached to us started laughing because we weren't even in the training area anymore. +It was a disued impact zone. +I tried jumping up and down on an ancient looking HE round, but alas, St. Barbara said "Not today, Anon." +--- 58072473 +>>58068223 +Is there anything that just stops a guy from dressing up as a civilian, making or receiving a drone bomb kit and doing it from right next to the refinery? +--- 58072482 +>>58072473 +The FSB. +--- 58072484 +>>58070655 +What happened to her tattoo? +--- 58072493 +>>58072423 +>The smartest move by Putin would be to sue for peace +He has imperiled Crimea - the real 'existential' ground - and now Murmansk and related ICBM and sub tender facilities with Finland accession to NATO. The only reason why he's not taking a dirt nap is the loss of face and internal disruption removing him would precipitate (or it is not really his decision at all, but shadow elements of the old Party structure) -- it may well be that this is a Central Committee show now and Putin(s) we're seeing are just body double placeholders. +--- 58072514 +>more UkroShaheds spotted over Russia +>he doubted the plan + +5000 yellow and blue lawnmowers of Bandera will blot out the sky. +--- 58072544 +>>58072514 +--- 58072552 +>>58068037 (OP) +Is puccia just falseflagging attacks on its own refineries? + +Points for: +- refineries are breaking down without western parts & maintenance contracts -> this hides the evidence of that +- they can't sell the oil -> excess has to be burnt off -> using it for war propaganda is better + +Points against: +- Krasnodar supplies Crimea, making this an excellent target for Ukraine +--- 58072557 +>>58072484 +that's what I was wondering +--- 58072596 +>>58069171 +If the conditions are right that day, then they will, otherwise I think Ukraine have been disciplined about not letting meme dates determine when to begin operations. +--- 58072610 +>>58072493 +>It may well be that this is a Central Committee show now and Putin(s) we're seeing are just body double placeholders. +I think this is the case for every national government. +All presidents, premeirs, prime ministers and chancellor are all just place holders. +Everything is run by faceless, soulless, unelected bureaucrats. +We killed kings and destroyed empires so that we could have something exponentially worse; but that is a topic for /pol/. +Putin or the Russian Deep State (respectively) is in an unwinnable position and even if they win on paper, they have lost because they are in a worse situation than what they started with, which was a neutral Sweden and Finland and Ukraine not in NATO. +--- 58072650 +>>58068210 +Nice list bro, any chance you also have coordinates for those targets? +--- 58072832 +>>58068268 +untermensch syndrome +--- 58072870 +>Why can't Russian Shaheeds hit shit +--- 58072898 +>>58072870 +Impressive. Was it a cat shelter or a hospital? +--- 58072939 +>>58072898 +S-300 shelter presumably judging by the explosion. Interesting how you haven't heard about that one. +--- 58072958 +>>58072939 +Oh that old icbm fuel storage facility? You're a few days late on your shilling +--- 58072965 +>>58072958 +>Oh that old icbm fuel storage facility? +I thought it was a DECOY ammo stockpile? Did the narrative change? +--- 58072974 +>>58072965 +I have no idea, russian shills change thier mind so much +--- 58072987 +>>58072965 +You're right, they actually hit the largest US anti-slav virus developing biolab in Ukraine. The strike also hit the underground nazi-bunker with 300 NATO generals. +--- 58073027 +>>58072939 +It was a chemplant storing old SS-24 stages. Yellow and Orange lines show the view of two videos of the explosion. +--- 58073039 +>>58073027 +--- 58073049 +>>58072313 +Galileo's encrypted mode is only available to government-authorized users and it's not useful for military purposes. It's for millimeter precision land surveying, far more accurate than any other satnav. Definitely not suitable for use on a drone. + +Quick rundown on satnav precision (encrypted) +>glon-ass +7m (lol what high precision mode?) +>gps +5m (0.3m) +>beidou +3.6m (0.1m) +>qzss +>navic +1m (0.1m) +>galileo +1m (0.01m) +--- 58073068 +>>58068223 +They can launch it from closer than you drew. + +>>58072482 +FSB can't do SHIT aside from oppressing fellow Russians and protecting their own authority. Even the fancy hacking attacks has been them outsourcing to the private sector by intimidating nerds who just want to pirate video games. +--- 58073102 +>>58073039 +Holy shit I could have sworn I saw pics of these posted here before they were blown up. +--- 58073152 +>>58073049 +What about Galileo HAS? +>The high-accuracy service (HAS) offered by Galileo is now available and provides sub-meter accuracy over most of the globe. It will help enable emerging technologies such as UAVs and autonomous vehicles, which require stringent levels of accuracy for better navigation, safety and efficient traffic management. +>Galileo HAS delivers horizontal accuracy down to 20 cm and vertical accuracy of 40 cm in nominal use conditions, according to ESA. The service is transmitted directly via the Galileo signal in space (E6-B) and through the internet. +>With HAS, Galileo becomes the first constellation worldwide able to provide a high-accuracy service globally and directly through the signal in space. +>The service is freely accessible to all users with a receiver capable of processing the HAS corrections broadcast in the E6-B signal and via the internet. +--- 58073185 +>>58073049 +These numbers are completely meaningless. You can achieve centimeter level accuracy in RTK mode even with just GLONASS (assuming you have a western GPS board and antenna) but that requires a known fixed basestation. The actual accuracy, in terms of military applications, depends on countless factors which are mostly down to your antenna and GPS board, troposphere correction, ionosphere correction, cycle slip detection, ephemeris/clock knowledge and so on. In essence it all depends on your GPS module, your antenna and a decent signal from a satellite with an accurate clock. Western antennas and GPS modules blow anything the Chinese and or Russians can produce out of the water since they exist. +--- 58073188 +>>58068061 +One side has a competent air defense network. +The other side has tons of AA systems in theory but they are all staffed by vodka monkeys. +--- 58073206 +>>58068294 +Hey man that's not fair, pisky is well known to disappear and reappear based on patterns of solar wind +--- 58073221 +>>58072965 +>>58072939 +--- 58073224 +>>58073152 +On a technical level that's basically same as AGPS, except the assistance data comes straight from the satellites, no internet connection needed. +--- 58073226 +>>58068037 (OP) +Has anybody collected info on these oil refineries and done estimates on the effects? It's like I'm seeing these events in a vaccum +--- 58073227 +>>58072423 +>The smartest move by Putin would be to sue for peace, try to gobble up a sliver of land for that Crimea land bridge he invaded to get +Ukraine shows absolutely no signs of accepting such a deal +the only way it becomes slightly plausible is if the Uke offensive soon is a disaster and goes nowhere +even then I find it hard to believe Ukraine would give up any more territory compared to Feb 2022 unless something drastic happened like the US got a president who outright blocked all aid for Ukraine - in which case, of course, Russia would get greedy again and want to annex more. The two countries won't be able to agree on where the border should be for at least like 10 years unless one of them suffers total defeat. +--- 58073400 +>>58071745 +I prefer worldgay +--- 58073432 +>>58073400 +Do you? +--- 58073546 +>>58068196 +>So they weren't lying when they talked about the long range drones they were developing. +You're assuming this was launched from Ukraine, but Ukrainian partisans in Crimea have been carrying out drone attacks literally the entire war and there have been attacks by both anti-war Russians and suspected Ukrainian infiltrators in Russia as well. + +Drone hits shit and drone from Ukraine hits shit aren't the same thing. + +Although it doesn't functionally make a difference. If Ukraine can go under Russia's AA or anti-government Russians are starting to do severe infrastructure damage in Russia like the Belarussians did in Belarus with the train tracks, ultimately it's the same fucking result: Russia is unable to stop it and loses a ton of logistical infrastructure. +--- 58073552 +>>58073400 +But it's about homogeneity, not homosexuality. +Why are faggots like this? +--- 58073587 +>>58072484 +Ai isn't very good at making swastikas atm +--- 58073615 +>>58073185 +>You can achieve centimeter level accuracy in RTK mode even with just GLONASS +No, you can not. Stop it. +--- 58073620 +>>58071652 +>nothing left to hit +>yet Ukraine now exports electricity to the EU +seethe vatnig +--- 58073668 +>>58073227 +>The two countries won't be able to agree on where the border should be for at least like 10 years +This is euroland we're talking about here, you're off by at least a factor of ten. +--- 58073699 +>>58068329 +>corruption is the ultimate killer for militaries +This is probably the ultimate lesson governments and militaries will take away from the whole mess for centuries to come. +--- 58073730 +>>58069205 +>They will learn not to play with the bear +>Because it is old, diseased, drunk, incompetent, riddled with aids, and will probably die soon +--- 58073784 +>>58068037 (OP) +Why do people name off these locations like we know where they are, who owned them, and who attacked them? +--- 58073819 +>>58073784 +Possibly because even the most uneducated mouthbreather with internet access can look it up in under 10 seconds? +--- 58074229 +>>58071168 +They were doing the only thing they know how to. +--- 58074655 +>>58074229 +fuck. +--- 58074675 +>>58074655 +--- 58074681 +>>58074229 +Warcrime'ing my sides here. +--- 58074717 +>>58074229 +florkposting is the best thing to happen here in a while. +--- 58076274 +>>58074717 +You might say we're entering a new ERA +--- 58076328 +>>58076274 +carlos you fucker lmao +--- 58076958 +>>58072245 +>It would be interesting to use US manufacturing power to make kamikaze UAVs + +MIC already working on this, with less recruits the Military will need to reorganize and integrate massive amounts of drones for combat. +--- 58077202 +>>58073027 +>>58072939 +So to make your own mini nuke you just need to mix few trucks of solid rocket fuel? Or it needs more than fire to go off like that instead of just flying in random direction? + +Damage looks almost kilometer wide. I wonder when we get decent ground pics. +--- 58077358 +>>58068210 +The refineries that matter are ones near the front line, as fuel being carried by trucks is going to be too logistically strained if they have to go 500+ kilometres. +Additionally by disabling nearby storage, others will have to make up for regional shortages. +--- 58077431 +That's... well on the other side of the Kerch bridge. Whoever is actually trying to run logistics on the Russian side (likely someone who needs the stuff rather than the guy officially in charge) is probably being a bit not happy right now. +--- 58077559 +>>58077202 +>you just need to mix few trucks of solid rocket fuel +Yes, all you have to do is acquire enough solid rocket fuel to build several dozen ICBMs, simple really. +--- 58077643 +>>58068061 +A combination of motivated contractors and the fact so much of ukraines electricity comes from nuclear, which Russia is afraid of openly targeting. +https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-ukraine-survived-russias-mission-to-turn-off-the-lights-winter-is-over-and-were-still-here-8668c5f5?st=5addrxt391g4oht + +>>58073620 +>"The electricity reports are forged by western elites!" +>"But if western elites are just laundering money wouldn't they want to make the situation look worse to garner more aid?" +--- 58077657 +>>58068281 +>bought from China and modified by Ukraine +It's not an africa, Ukraine can produce (at least assemble) their own shit given the investments (no one really wanted to give them any for the last 30 years) +--- 58080308 +>>58073546 +How do you defend against rail sabotage anyway? +--- 58080323 +>>58073699 +problem is this has happened multiple times through out history, and regimes still struggle with it partially because its so embedded into them attempting to fix it will just result in the guy getting removed even if it will benefit the state long terms, just look at the numerous arab militaries +--- 58080339 +>>58080308 +Fixing a derailment isn't very difficult for the Russians. We tend to take for granted how heavily reliant Russia is on its rail system; the rails have their own brigade dedicated to keeping it running. + +You can't really defend against sabotage over broad stretches of rail effectively, so the better option is to have rapid response engineers available to quickly crane up derailed cranes and slap on new rails. + +It's why I was so disappointed in the bridge attack earlier in the war. It didn't fully destroy the rail side, which meant they "repaired" it relatively quickly, meaning the disruption in supplies was negligible. +--- 58080349 +>>58080339 +...derailed trains +--- 58080351 +>>58074229 +Excellent. +--- 58080391 +>>58080339 +Can't wait for pointing Prigozhin to become the template + +If derailed cars are easy to fix, maybe they should do bigger explosions and get the fuel trains burning. +--- 58080563 +>>58073068 +>FSB can’t do SHIT + +FSB won’t do shit - they are the kings of the “fuck work” movement right now. absolute masters of malicious compliance. doing the bare minimum to the point of comedy. they are geniuses. +--- 58080586 +>>58068061 +Literally same as many other things in this war: Ukraine just wants to win more. diff --git a/k/58068999.txt b/k/58068999.txt index 5ede7fb5345b00318fb028b1188a9d8df6c2d612..35e698c5f8ac364c35d04e24063128fb29c2fa9d 100644 --- a/k/58068999.txt +++ b/k/58068999.txt @@ -70,3 +70,82 @@ they look lame --- 58070637 >>58068999 (OP) what the flying fuck am I looking at +--- 58071092 +>>58068999 (OP) +I wanna set up an AR pistol kinda like this as a ironic "so fucking what" hip fire omatic I response to these hydra mount doods +--- 58071126 +>>58068999 (OP) +>they feed us poison +>so we buy their cure +>while they supress our medicine +--- 58071539 +>>58068999 (OP) +>spending several hundred on a solution for Sig's shit tier rails +Yet again carry handle chads were ahead of the tactifag game all along +--- 58071925 +>>58068999 (OP) +It's only for use with nods. +If you don't have nods or don't plan to shoot with nods, it's ridiculous. +--- 58072131 +>>58068999 (OP) +>why do people despise the Hydra mount? +..................? +--- 58072174 +>>58072131 +I see you've found my weapon +--- 58072239 +>>58069096 +>they told me to neck myself + +as a aide note, i firmly believe this is the result of the doll fetish going off the rails in society. Unless the heads are removable and swappable, in which case it is based. +--- 58072290 +>>58068999 (OP) +>people have optics mounted high for night vision +>high mounted optics become seen as high end because people who can afford night vision use them +>people who don't even have night vision start buying high mounted optics because it is now a trend +>they start retroactively justifying their purchases by making shit up about how high optics are objectively better for 'situational awareness' and start looking down on all the plebians who will totally get killed innaboog because their mount is a fraction of an inch lower +its not just about the mount. its about what it represents. also it looks fucking retarded lol. +--- 58072305 +>>58072131 +hail hydra +--- 58072404 +>>58068999 (OP) +Well the scam price is one good reason. Its a block of aluminum and they want over $500 for it. +Its also a very very niche accessory that for most people in the world is solving a problem that doesn't exist. If you actually have that problem then you can solve it for a 1/10th of the price. Or, even more realistically its an issued rifle and you dont get to slap random hype beast gear on it anyways. +--- 58072497 +>>58070463 +B-but I want to spend thousands of dollars to shoot cardboard cutouts at night twice a year +--- 58073340 +>>58069060 +This. People who fell for the high-mount gimmick now need a new hypebeast product to flex on r/guns. +--- 58073574 +>>58068999 (OP) +Isn't it expensive? +--- 58075408 +>>58068999 (OP) +Maybe cuz the dipshit gay cocksucking goobers upcharged 550 fucking burger tokens for that piece of shit when it costs so little to make that you can buy a q to 1 replica made out of the same grade aluminum for 50 dollars shipped. +--- 58076482 +>>58072239 +>>58069073 + +I achieved similar results with my ballsack +--- 58076710 +>>58068999 (OP) +First is the price. $500 is absurd. Especially when some Chinese factory (probably the same one they used to make the 'official') was pumping out the same thing for $50 on Amazon. People who bought both have stated how annoyed they are that the GBRS version feels less quality in general than some knockoff. +Second, it doesn't look good. The EOTECH mount looks better proportionally, but no matter how useful this might be on something like a rattler, it just looks very unappealing. People can discount looks and pretend it is some 10x improvement worth the tradeoff, but it's not. Most of these you see are mounted on standard 'pistols' anyway, even when there is a ton of rail. I'd just keep mounting my IR unit at the front of the rail because the offset isn't that extreme, and not worth $500 to 'fix'. +Third, the Unity Fast mount exists, along with other highrise mounts for Nightvision. Not only do they look better, but the Fast mount has a backup ironsight which is nice to use with the front sight post during the day. Even these mounts are far too expensive. I'd argue the Amazon knockoff unity mount is probably a better product than the official GBRS mount. +--- 58079728 +>>58072131 +That's cute. +This isn't shopped. +--- 58079909 +>>58079728 +--- 58079931 +>>58079728 +>>58079909 +PRECISION +HIPFIRE +TECHNOLOGY +--- 58080405 +>>58072290 +Higher mounts (>lower 1/3rd) are way more comfortable to shoot especially from a high ready diff --git a/k/58069082.txt b/k/58069082.txt index f491ce788654b22a747b3b70769939cd8da8cb73..f3fc1b94a70a90fea05b5ad87ac0c02c9868bab6 100644 --- a/k/58069082.txt +++ b/k/58069082.txt @@ -82,3 +82,286 @@ It's difficult enough that doing it well while not being shot at makes you Jeff >>58069102 > I would have to stop eating ice cream though. You really don't +--- 58071261 +Have you ever played Factorio op? +--- 58071271 +>>58069940 +minor correction, it was the JU-52s that they were counting on to resupply the sixth army +and it was the HE-111s that they brought in as replacements when they found out the JU-52 had been severely overestimated +--- 58071301 +>>58069082 (OP) +Just read Caocao’s book you retard. +In the various annotated versions of Art of War Caocao’s version values most. Cuz he is the only annotation author who has real experience from participating small battle, to commanding a army and then organising a war. +In his time transposing 1 unit of grain to border would cost 20 unit en route for feeding porters and horses. +--- 58071308 +>>58069872 +>everybody other than the US (and the UK, back when it had a globe-spanning empire) simply doesn't seem to grok how vital it is +surely they should know +I'm mindblown + +>>58070471 +>one truck per non truck vehicle and that would be considered extremely light logistics +You're shitting me +--- 58071781 +Russian logistics centres around energy movement. +Chinese logistics is consumer goods focused. +The US is the only power capable of expeditionary movement of force. A Chinese naval detachment operating in the Gulf of Mexico would run out of food and fuel in a few weeks. A Russian occupation of Laos wouldn’t be able to sustain AirPower. +These aren’t controversial ideas. +--- 58071843 +>>58069102 +You could be driving the army ice cream barge +--- 58071844 +>>58071308 +>You're shitting me +Nope. Because this truck would also need a truck. And one truck cannot do more than 1 thing. It can trasport fuel or spare parts or other things like food but not all at once. +--- 58071850 +>>58069102 +>The plot of Ernest joins the army +--- 58071858 +>>58070749 +This. +Army truck drivers are the laziest fuckers I've ever seen. +--- 58071893 +>>58071858 +Buddy of mine drove trucks during his conscription in the Austrian army, it was a really chill experience apparently. +--- 58071940 +>>58071781 +>A Chinese naval detachment operating in the Gulf of Mexico would run out of food and fuel in a few weeks. +And that is what always took me out of Mercenaries 2. Also that line about Not getting Involved in a land war with China, Except it goes in Asia and the game is set in Venezuela. +--- 58071944 +>>58071893 +Yeah, I have a friend in the Finnish army that is a truck driver and he doesn't do anything during the day. He basically only drives during exercises. +--- 58071975 +>>58069082 (OP) +tanks are sexy +the work of getting the tanks in the field and keeping them in the field is not sexy and expensive +--- 58071988 +>>58070232 +Is this your first time here? +--- 58072025 +>>58069102 +Son, with an attitude like that you'll be captain of the ice cream barge in no time. +--- 58072062 +>>58069082 (OP) +>How difficult is logistics anyway?! +Really extremely hard. Imagine you need to call your friend 800 miles away, tell him to pick up a list of random shit from 3 different stores and meet you in the middle of nowhere so you can make a sandwich. +Now imagine doing that with 1000 different friends making a giant sandwich. None of them have access to enough ingredients to make the whole sandwich, and not all of them have access to all ingredients or even the same stores, or even the same size cars or navigation systems. +Now do that for a million giant sandwiches scattered across the countryside while also avoiding being blown up by the forces of anti-sandwich. +--- 58072104 +>>58072062 +>avoiding being blown up by the forces of anti-sandwich. +Why do they hate sandwiches so? +--- 58072114 +>>58072062 +Ah I remember the Snack Wars. I served in the 8th Greggs Baguette Battalion. +--- 58072146 +>>58069082 (OP) +>UTF +Pure sex +--- 58072187 +>>58071858 +>>58071893 +>>58071944 +my mate's a truck driver, his squad is unironically the laziest motherfuckers in the battalion, but I think it's a good place for people who wouldn't be able to serve otherwise to be in (he has terribly flat feet) + +>>58072114 +Ah, the Foreign Legion. Fine lads. +I was in the 3rd Sausage Rolls. + +>>58071844 +I wouldn't have thought one truck per AFV is considered "extremely light" +--- 58072241 +>>58072104 +Like usual, it doesn't matter why, their anti-sandwich missiles will kill you either way. +>>58072114 +>mfw I'm just a REMF, behind the sneezeguard. +I'm a sandwich assembly technician! +--- 58072292 +>>58072187 +>I wouldn't have thought one truck per AFV is considered "extremely light" +A cold-war era soviet tank company had 1 truck per 10 tanks +This was an upgrade over WW2 where a company had no trucks at all + +A US tank company had 1 truck, 1 trailer, 1 M113, and 2 humvees for 14 tanks +Technically fewer trucks per tanks, but overall higher mechanisation for non-tanks +--- 58072295 +>>58072114 +To this day, I wake up with explosions and screams and the cries of ALOHA SNACKBAR ringing in my ears +--- 58072338 +>>58072187 +Trucks are exponential in distance, not linear. +Moving one truckload one max distance takes one truck, moving that same single truckload double max distance takes three trucks, three times the distance takes seven trucks, four times takes fifteen trucks, etc... +And before that you have to deliver the trucks themselves, and then supply them all with repairs and men. And then the men operating the trucks also need supplies... +Now you'll rapidly start having to deal not with trucks but roads, and by this same equation supplying three saturated road of trucks needs seven saturated roads of trucks, but in many cases there just aren't that many roads. +And now those choked roads full of supply trucks start attracting enemy attention so you need air support, radar, armored divisions, infantry trenches, etc... +In the end you win up in a situation where to deliver a single bag of potato a day chips across the country you need to first construct a series of highways, rail lines and seaports, then build several trade cities populated with millions of workers, open universities to train teams of engineers, build a robust commercial airline network, etc... +--- 58072604 +>>58069082 (OP) + +In order to be the best at logistics it helps a LOT if you can count on your homeland never being at risk during the war. If you can build as many factories as you need without covering them entirely in AA, have the workers and their families sleep at night without fear of incoming bombs, keep all your mines and farms not just alive but running overtimes. you have a bit of logistical advantage over a country that has none of that. + +All of the NATO countries are doing logistics well now. They practice generally, exchange officers and staff resources all the time, and have what they need - for peacetime. How they will work if there ever is a NATO war we don't know, but we do know that our only enemy know the address and coordinate of most of our depots, factories, barracks and strategic resources. Things are going to be pretty interesting the first weeks of war for people living near those places. Even the proud USA would get a bit angsty if some of their key roadcrosses, fuel depots and main power generators went boom all of a sudden and then logistics could get challenging for a while. +--- 58072629 +>>58069082 (OP) +>logistics. +> spend a few bucks on a few trucks +Logistics is not just throwing $$ after trucks. +> sourcing the supplies +> getting the supplies built +> receiving supplies +> getting large quantities of supplies to distribution center / warehouse +> properly storing supplies +> knowing what supplies need to be moved to FEBA (forward edge battle area) +> protecting supplies +All of this is hard. And each one is an entry point for corruption (theft, sub-standard materials) or fuckery (bad storage, bad transport, bad handling). +--- 58072652 +In conventional war, logistics make the difference between victory and defeat. + +People focus on the sexy side of things, the tactics, but logistics are the life support of any war machine. + +Which is what makes unconventional war so devastating. + +Counter-insurgents must sustain a complex logistics chain. + +Insurgents are just armed, organized, and living in their country like normal. You can't even tell who is a local citizen and who is a guerilla fighter, because they dress the same. Their logistics chain is just living and working in their own country. +--- 58072654 +>>58069082 (OP) +I work at a pcr test kit producing company making millions of dollars worth of product every day and we have problems getting materials up from the basement within 24 hours. Actual logistics in a unpredictable, constantly shifting system on a national level has to be a nightmare, even if you can court marshal people for laziness and incompetence. +--- 58072668 +>>58069102 +Buy one. You can buy old Bundeswehr trucks or completely new ones +--- 58072677 +>>58072629 + +Indeed, logistics are not just trucks full of ammo, weapons, and people. + +Training, establishing bases, transporting essential supplies like food and water and GASOLINE (OIL), transporting and deploying large and expensive weapon systems, communications, and more, depending on the nature of the war. +--- 58072689 +>>58072677 + +>GASOLINE (OIL) + +WAR FOR OIL + +OIL FOR WAR + +BABYLON MARCHES + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tw2P65wv5E [Embed] +--- 58072867 +>>58072654 +>logistics on a national level has to be a nightmare +Now do it on a global scale. + +If you think about it, it takes a First World economy to do proper logistics. Right there you limit the number of entrants. And you need a top of the line army and navy and air force to do logistics over any significant distance. +> overlap those two areas and you have a very narrow area in your venn diagram +--- 58073490 +>>58071271 +It didn't help that the Germans seemed to treat those cargo aircraft were expendable. They were slaughtered over Stalingrad and this was after taking a beating in Africa as well as the other pocket in the east (I forget which one exactly), they also suffered in Crete earlier in the war. +--- 58073521 +>>58072187 +>I wouldn't have thought one truck per AFV is considered "extremely light" +You now realize why many nations underestimate the difficulty of logistics kek. +--- 58073915 +>>58073521 +>one truck per AFV +And the compounding effect: those support trucks have logistics. +I'd love to see a tip-of-the-iceberg chart showing what it took to get one NLAW or Javelin or 155mm round to the front line. +--- 58073927 +>>58073915 +I imagine it's something like those charts you see for BigMacs and shit +--- 58073951 +>>58073915 +Well first you need a well-developed continent-sized first world country with an economy of several trillions with massive transportation and communication networks and production facilities and an educated workforce. The rest is trivial and left as an exercise to the reader. +--- 58073969 +>>58073951 +see >>58072867 +That's a VERY narrow population you've described: +> well-developed +> continent-sized +> first world country +> economy of several trillions +> with massive transportation and communication networks and production facilities +> and an educated workforce +Number of countries that satisfy this set of criteria: 1 +--- 58074117 +Anyone who has served in the US military overseas will tell you how close to collapse the whole thing is at any given moment. We had a sever go down that controlled close to half the gates on base. The person that was supposed to know how to get it back up and running didn't know how so he had to spend 6 hours straight on the phone talking to people who did know how to do it. All the while we couldn't get fuel, we couldn't get a new tire, access to half the water was cut off, and two people were stuck in a room the size of a prison cell because they were the ones that fucked up the server because they were trying to fix the big fridge that held out milk. +--- 58074164 +>>58074117 +>For want of half-and-half the base was lost +--- 58074203 +>>58069197 +its insanely complex, but one thing is that the entire US army runs on one fuel: JP-8. It sounds like a small thing, but then you go look at other nations where you can't use half of your fueling trucks for half of your combat vehicles because some run on gasoline, others on diesel and so forth. +--- 58074465 +>>58072338 +>what is sealift? +--- 58074529 +>>58074117 +Servers don't control gates, they may authenticate IDs which would snarl things nicely. Further, any gate with an actuator can simply be disconnected then operated manually. Most bases don't have gates that open and shut for each vehicle. I've never seen one. +--- 58074669 +Worked on two carriers, and one amphib, all 7th fleet. AMA. +--- 58074682 +>>58074669 +Should I run on a treadmill or outside on concrete? +--- 58074740 +>>58069102 +Wait, i can play Snowrunner irl? +--- 58074747 +>>58074669 +Why is logistics so difficult and why can't other nations into logistics? +--- 58074756 +>>58074669 +What is point of life? Is there afterlife? +--- 58074822 +>>58072292 +That doesn't count logistics support, those are just organic trucks. Why didn't you instantly catch that? One truck cannot be organic hauling related equipment while supporting anything else of note because it cannot be in two places at once. +--- 58074855 +>>58074669 +What is the most difficult/complex underway logistics feat? +--- 58075296 +>>58074669 +which is more important, sealift or airlift? +--- 58075306 +>>58074669 +Have you ever seen a man eat his own head? +--- 58075446 +>>58072241 +>Like usual, it doesn't matter why, their anti-sandwich missiles will kill you either way. + +>finally get to have the tastiest BLT ever +>laser guided firecracker blows it out of your hands +the horror...the horror +--- 58075463 +>>58075446 +It brings me right back there... +--- 58076970 +>>58072292 +That's for repairs and stuff. Resupply units are usually held at the division/corps-level (except for during the current brigade-centric organization) and tasked out as needed to stay ahead of expected resupply needs. It takes a pack of mad geniuses to properly maintain a corps in battle. +--- 58077009 +>>58074740 +You don't get to blaze your own trail. You go where the engineers have cleared you to go. +--- 58077747 +>>58072104 +>Why do they hate sandwiches so? +They worship the Blender +--- 58077818 +Logistics isn't particularly difficult, it's just expensive and lacks glamour. + +Rulers of third world shitholes don't actually care if their armies to be logistically competent, because they don't plan on conducting any real expeditionary warfare. They care far more about internal security than external. All those trucks and specialized vehicles required for successful expeditionary warfare, and the constant maintenance and training that goes along with it, are not only frightfully expensive, but they're boring. They'd rather have an army with a few cool toys like fighter jets and tanks that they can trot out for parades to look fearsome. + +The Soviets used to be good at logistics, but then it became another third world shithole. When the choice is between using the fuel budget to actually do training with, or to embezzle it, the generals in Russia will steal it every time. +--- 58077896 +>>58069082 (OP) +Logistics? Hah! Real commanders learn battle tactics instead! +--- 58079256 +>>58069197 +The US has a large enough GDP to support a large enough military that employs enough people and purchases enough machines based on their ambitions. +Most countries that get into trouble with logistics tend to be dictatorships with ambitions far beyond their means, and with no one who can meaningfully tell them "no, we can't afford an invasion". +--- 58079566 +>>58072652 +Insightful. +--- 58079576 +>>58074682 +Concrete. Treadmill you might bounce like a trampoline. + +Buy good shoes. Put good inserts in them. diff --git a/k/58069371.txt b/k/58069371.txt index a82d9018a60c377d979d5718464b835b7a785c9b..6b832faee7027a2b2c7229a642ef76966f0eb86e 100644 --- a/k/58069371.txt +++ b/k/58069371.txt @@ -10,3 +10,69 @@ Psssssssssss grbb --- 58070227 >>58069371 (OP) I guess Russians meant Ukrainians are Nazi engineers. +--- 58071067 +>>58069371 (OP) +>Hohols using Nazi rocket tech to help HATO genocide innocent Russians +All the more reason why Russia must finish Ukraine's de-nazification at any cost. +--- 58071108 +Not surprising. The whole space race was Ukrainian scientists versus Nazi scientists. Asiatic mongol rape-babies are too dumb to into rockets. +--- 58071153 +isn't that a nazi symbol on the patch? +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol) +--- 58073415 +>>58071153 +yup,ukranians (and their russian volunteer allies) really dig world war 2 german ''''morale patches''' +and i can't really blame them +--- 58073585 +>>58071153 +Not just that, it's also has wolfsangel, in style of the 2nd SS Panzer Division Das Reich, superimposed on it. + +>>58073415 +>russian liberation army +Lel +--- 58073612 +>>58071153 +concern trolling or else is it possible to be this new? +--- 58074264 +>>58073585 +this timeline russia opened truly is something else +--- 58074946 +>>58069371 (OP) +Good to see that my old paintbrush made meme living on. Here`s the version updated few month later. +--- 58078005 +>>58069371 (OP) +>Russia chimps out and fires a dozen or two cruise missiles at Ukraine +>After a few minutes of bombardment, every Ukrainian goes to their back garden and launches a mini-buzzbomb right back at them + +At what point do the Russians just pack up and go home, because I'm not sure how one deals with so many incoming missiles that they blot out the sun. +--- 58078066 +>>58071153 +It's also the symbol behind the Wolfenstein reboot that apparently only I liked, because I preferred B-movie, supernatural mad science to bland, art-deco diesel punk. +--- 58081324 +>>58071153 +>>58078066 +>>58073612 +>>58073585 +>>58073415 +I know it's bait. But still heard an interesting thing explained by a German volunteer from Ukraine recently. He talked about how in that part of the world Nazi iconography has a bit of a different meaning. +It's less about National Socialism or Antisemitism and more about Anti-Communism or general Anti-Authoritarianism. That's why you see so many criminals with swastika tattoos over there +--- 58081397 +>>58081324 +I always imagined a lot of Ukrainians wear totenkopfs and the like because they see it as anticommunist and anti-Russian imagery divorced from wherever it came from. However, right wing militias flourished under Poroshenko because he allowed them to, so idk how much water it holds. After the Right Sector lost a lot of its prestige when Zelenskyy became president, and when the invasion happened, maybe this became moreso true. +--- 58081520 +>>58069371 (OP) +>valveless +>only 1 or 2 intakes +>no ram collar +At this point you would be better off with a simple reed valve array. It can be cut from a single sheet of spring steel, has objectively better performance, and simpler construction. Also, these were abandoned by every country because they're inefficient as shit (Lenoir cycle) because they only have at best a mild ram compression. And they're loud as fuck. You will hear one of these 20 miles out like a ricer with no muffler revving 20 feet away. Rocket boosted glide bombs are better in almost every way. + +For anyone interested in info on this type specifically check out https://www.academia.edu/7679260/Valveless_Pulsejet_Engines_1_5 +--- 58081604 +>>58081324 +No, they are not dying for LGBTQ+ and BLM. +--- 58081957 +>>58081397 +Well it certainly isn't black and white either. There are bound to be people who wear those patches because they're right wingers I think. +Funnily enough that same volunteer I'm talking about said, that the people who were most adamant about their right-wing/antisemite rhetoric were the people who did not have any Nazi patches +>>58081604 +What are you even talking about mate? diff --git a/k/58069542.txt b/k/58069542.txt index 56e6b6dd3d36fcd9b58b5f0a62daf7f7a3008987..21e327908b59576f95807e42d513d336f43a10d3 100644 --- a/k/58069542.txt +++ b/k/58069542.txt @@ -12,3 +12,32 @@ I bought 100 rounds of .45acp target ammo that were under powered. I think they --- 58070582 >>58069542 (OP) is that red army standard? If so, shame on you. That shit has some of the worst, most inconsistent loading I have ever seen. Do not be surprised if it squibs once a mag. +--- 58073633 +>>58069555 +Checked +>take my fightlite out to the desert +Cool, but the Sun tends to stain barrels +--- 58075340 +>>58070582 +Shut up idiot its not even a real maker brand, they do what wolf does and just import its never been always 100 percent from the same factory you fucking mook and i bet you cant even name the russian ammo factories that we used to love and enjoy. Shut up. +--- 58075395 +>>58069542 (OP) +What I got this year +have some Mauser ammo on the way +--- 58075543 +>>58069542 (OP) +Yes but idk if it is good to shoot or not. Hard primer. Gonna use it after summer. +--- 58078721 +>>58075543 +Is not for pistol, for smg +--- 58079790 +I got a 50 count box of some neat 454 casull.. get some range time with it Sunday…. 420 grain rated for 1400 fps out of a 6 inch barrel…. Slowly increasing the collection of 454…. Have this weird idea that since people do wine tasting and beer flights then I might as well get a good variety and do some bullet flights with friends.. need to pick up another box of 200 grain hornady… +--- 58080378 +>>58069542 (OP) +purchased 1000rnds of 9mm a few minutes ago +--- 58080999 +I just bought an ass load of .17hm2 and .17 aguila. +AKA .17pmc but a Mexican invented it so I call it .17 aguila. +I hope it get here soon. +--- 58081009 +got 1000 of range ammo and 500 of hollow point diff --git a/k/58069668.txt b/k/58069668.txt index 725966814e806f89f5579e9c7fdeee4d65a5a4e1..8e3d3901b296753f1f342849219679df7ad130b6 100644 --- a/k/58069668.txt +++ b/k/58069668.txt @@ -76,3 +76,573 @@ Older interfaces were absolute garbage from an usability perspective and signifi so the spike in ring could be a huge could, birds, the enemy, or an airliner. always makes me wonder how airliner shootdowns dont happen more often with sovietshit +--- 58070995 +>>58070481 +Link to video? really interested. +--- 58071018 +>>58070481 +>tap to target, swipe to kill +what a time to be alive +--- 58071021 +>>58070481 +>>58070995 +nvm found the video +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLTipa4Ay6c [Embed] +--- 58071057 +>>58070316 +spin the wheel, wheel spinner +--- 58071105 +>>58069776 +Same, but because I can't operate capacitive touchscreens safely. Something with my body's bioelectric field, if I get even slightly agitated any screen I'm touching acts up and delivers dozens of clicks (no, it's not tremors, it does so even when I'm confirmed to not touch the device physically). + +OTOH, it' funny to imagine getting pissed off when operating one of those and accidentally launching a shitload of missiles Macross-style. +--- 58071116 +>>58070358 +Supposedly its because the rotor forms a right angle with the cowling, forming a perfect shape to reflect radar +--- 58072080 +>>58070230 +whats this? the firing controls? +--- 58072091 +>>58069668 (OP) +>>58069701 +i don't care what anyone says. even though flat screens are objectively superior, the old tubes, analog buttons and everything else just has so much more soul +--- 58072151 +>>58072091 +That's a completely meaningless statement. +--- 58072172 +>>58070230 +The downing of Malaysia Flight 17 makes a lot more sense when you realize this was the equipment they used to do it +--- 58072182 +>>58072080 +Bakelite.... such soul +--- 58072204 +>>58069776 +Yeah, but I'd a prefer screen that can display more information and prioritize it with shit like color coding over physical switches. +--- 58072269 +>>58070481 +>training time +Maybe knuckle dragging retard grunts aren't up to the task. These systems should be manned by commissioned officers at *minimum*. Working radio isn't hard. + +The new shit is overly complicated, overly engineered dogshit where field repairs are absolutely impossible and undoubtedly ridden with thousands of zero days and other nasty issues. + +My trade is electronic engineering with a side of software development. I've worked adjacent to projects that the dipshit military brass eat up like cookies in a factory. I wouldn't touch anything running on software that comes out of the MIC with a ten foot pole. You people have no idea how bad this shit really is. +>w-well I know a guy who uses the s-syst- +I don't give shit. Anybody who would choose the dog shit needless "modern" goyslop version deserves to experience catastrophic system failure. +--- 58072334 +>>58071105 +Wtf nigga has a special ability +--- 58072369 +>>58069701 +I bet the left one gives you eye cancer. +--- 58072683 +>>58072269 +Based analogue enjoyer. +--- 58073031 +>>58069701 +Kek, they make that guy wear his helmet indoors. He went full retard. +--- 58073148 +>>58072269 +Exactly this. I work in the nuclear power industry as an I&C electrical engineer. Most reactors are still using analog indicators and controls because plant managers (and the NRC) are skeptical of the reliability of digital controls. + +There are a few plants which are trying to modernize controls, but the projects I know have have been going on for more than a decade with no end in sight. +--- 58073169 +>>58072269 +digital controls are actually more reliable than analog ones in combat conditions + +fewer moving parts, less weight +while you cant repair a microchip in the field you dont have a lathe inside the vehicle to cut out gears and axles either +--- 58073250 +>>58072269 +>zero days +Fuck off retard, you don't know what you're talking about. +--- 58073703 +>>58069713 +>right is souless +The entire interface is coded in fucking Java. Not Javascript. Basic bitch Java. +--- 58073973 +>>58072269 +>zero days +nigga it's not even connected to public internet +--- 58074270 +>>58072269 +Well if it helps, I did software for medical devices and felt the same way. Ironically, all the fda regulations (at least the fear of it) make the software worse because of all the bureaucracy it adds. +--- 58074300 +>>58070161 +Fallout tier is 50's-60's level tech, so it checks out +--- 58074355 +>>58072269 +me hacking the SAM system that isn't even connected to the internet somehow +--- 58074422 +>>58071105 +>>58072334 +or you just have weird skin. +I could do that with some free phone clicker games for a time with a certain phone. +just had to put a finger the right distance from the screen. +more fingers meant more clicks. +--- 58074473 +>>58073148 +the big issue I have seen with digital stuff is in cars. +basically many updates get pushed out fast, and because its so easy to push stuff out fast its easy to overlook things as well. + +digital could work for nukes, but only if you approached it more like a bank and went for reliability over upgrades as much as possible. +--- 58074557 +>>58073703 +>Java +Fucking disgusting. +It's a piece of military hardware, not Abdul Pajeets bloated accounting shitware. +That shit should be written in C++ to reduce execution latency. +God I fucking hate Java, Oracle, and the incompetent retards that promote it as a viable language in the modern era where it's only usecase, being able to compile once and run on any CPU architecture, is completely fucking pointless. +>inb4 muh memory management +JUST TYPE 'free(that_shit_you_dont_need)', IT'S NOT THAT FUCKING HARD, IF YOU CAN'T REMEMBER ONE FOUR LETTER WORD YOU SHOULDN'T BE A FUCKING PROGRAMMER YOU LAZY, RETARDED, BROWN, FAGGOT. +--- 58074560 +Irreplaceable technology Russia can't produce anymore. +--- 58074657 +>>58072269 +>Side of software engineering +Keep it that way, your retardation wouldnt survive software development. +--- 58074722 +>>58070230 +You said it, tovarisch. As soon as I have dialed in the wavelength, everyone will understand everything. +--- 58074793 +>>58073973 +>>58073250 +Actual software dev here. There are plenty of zero days that are used in non internet connected systems. A lot of your devices come with more options to connect to than most folks realize. Case in point you probably believe your Bluetooth is fine, but it's is trivial to brute force any Bluetooth connection and to snoop on it. Conflicker supposedly even hopped the airgapped Iranian computers over speakers broadcasting in frequencies not heard by humans. + +https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2017/04/jumping_airgaps.html +https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/scientist-developed-malware-covertly-jumps-air-gaps-using-inaudible-sound/ + +That being said EE here really doesn't know how much work goes into a lot of US equipment to be more stable than other pieces of software, but it really doesn't matter all software contains bugs. All of it. The best you can hope for are properly designed components and that varies wildly from company to company, device to device. +--- 58074805 +>>58074557 +>t. has multiple memory leaks in his code +C++ is unironically a terrible choice for their "stability" +--- 58074817 +>>58074805 +>memory leaks +>JUST TYPE 'free(that_shit_you_dont_need)', IT'S NOT THAT FUCKING HARD, IF YOU CAN'T REMEMBER ONE FOUR LETTER WORD YOU SHOULDN'T BE A FUCKING PROGRAMMER YOU LAZY, RETARDED, BROWN, FAGGOT. +--- 58074841 +>>58074817 +>Retard still thinks he has cleaned up his pointers +Lmao, run valgrind on your shit and tell me how many leaks its found in your shitty hobby code. +--- 58074939 +>>58074817 +Yes grandpa I'm sure your paradigm that was failing even back during imperative interpretation would work great with concurrency issues brought about by multithreading and multiple hw input sources +Please tell me about your atomic alternative to free() that I'm sure is widely accepted as a c++ standard and isn't some abomination of a procedure implemented in a compiler of your choice where you have zero clue how the assembly instructions actually ensure atomic execution +Just slap another instruction into arm/RISC based instruction sets, I'm sure it costs no meaningful silicon space +Do you also happen to still use iron sights on your M14? Just curious +--- 58074991 +>>58070319 +The SPO can only warn you about two threats at a time, and it will only give you detailed Info about one. + +I have a theory that the RWR is actually one of the biggest problems for Ukrainian air force jets. +--- 58075020 +>>58074722 +What's the frequency, Kenneth? +--- 58075037 +>>58070076 +SOVL +--- 58075136 +>>58072080 +I'm not positive, but you're probably right. Here's the equivalent for the central fire control system on a Iowa-class battleship +--- 58075173 +>>58074939 +>Do you also happen to still use iron sights on your M14? +Hey now, iron sights are very well defined and robust compared to the piles of barely-defined garbage your average C/C++ stack is built on. +The amount of ad-hoc behind-the-scenes fuckery it takes to make "standard" C or POSIX libraries work in a mostly consistent manner in real use kept mailing lists busy for decades. +--- 58075193 +>>58069668 (OP) +1. That looks like an old picture. 2. It was designed in 1981 and first fielded in 1984. Sorry it doesn't look like your Nintendo switch. +--- 58075204 +>>58069701 +I love how they preserved the button layout +--- 58075208 +>>58073031 +I doubt they make him do anything, he's just that kind of guy. On a serious nite I've gotten into my car a number of times while still wearing a hard hat. +--- 58075236 +>>58070316 +>>58071057 +Do you know what they have to do when they sail in close formation? +>Increase throttle to x revolutions +>5 degrees starboard +>Decrease in y revolutions +>1 degree port +>Increase to y revolutions +>2 degrees port +And the commands come out about as fast as you're reading them and last all day and all night. + +A moment of silence and reflection for wheel spinners across the fleet. +--- 58075248 +>>58072172 +makes even more sense when you realize russians are fucking cunts. +--- 58075250 +>>58072269 +Enjoy your operator fatigue faggot retard +--- 58075293 +>>58073148 +I have some similar experience with utilities. I'm a consulting engineer on a lot of water and energy products. Getting the utility to use solid state things, vfds, PLCs, etc. is like pulling teeth. If it was up to them everything would be massive electromechanical relay control cabinets, across the line starters, dot matrix printers, etc. One utility had dual 48 fiber opgw for the transmission lines and was using maybe 25% of the fiber in a manner you would use copper. Then they paid for a Verizon FIOS connection at each station despite having the ability to have a completely secure fiber network. You eventually just give up. Only the security people like new tech. +--- 58075309 +>>58070230 +>>58074722 +>>58070276 +Top kek, can we make this a new meme? Analogueposting, anyone? +--- 58075320 +>>58070285 +>>58070316 +>"I can't believe I get to aim the main guns on a battleship!" +>Your job is to turn a wheel until the two arrows on this dial overlap. +--- 58075349 +>>58075309 +>new +--- 58075352 +>>58070076 +kino +--- 58075375 +>>58074805 +>multiple memory leaks in his code +It's not 2007, grandpa. Everyone uses smart pointers now and don't really care about memory management. +--- 58075407 +>>58075375 +>Smart pointers +Congrats you've invented garbage collection in a language that is not platform independent. C++ really is a bastard language +--- 58075409 +>>58072151 +seething +--- 58075430 +>>58075407 +And? +--- 58075475 +>>58075430 +If you're going to hype smart pointers literally just use Java. You get more benefits and deploy anywhere. +--- 58075540 +>>58075475 +>use Java +It's slower. +>deploy anywhere +Absolutely useless for military purposes. Also do you really think that putting JVM in specialized hardware is performance efficient? +--- 58075559 +>>58075540 +Having worked on nuke subs running Java I can tell you for a fact it works fine you fucking troglodyte. +--- 58075595 +>>58075559 +Nah, I am working on military UAVs, almost only C++/C for firmware. But there are few departments which use C# for automatic tests. +--- 58075629 +>>58075559 +I don't understand why these people are so religious about C and C++. Java works fine where you want easily maintainable code that is relatively low level. +As a rust developer I think that both sides are cretins. +--- 58075636 +>>58075595 +Yeah because no one needs a VM for firmware, that's the point of firmware low level shit. It doesn't make C/C++ anymore stable. The reason folks have swapped overwhelmingly to things like Java/Python is that a crash doesn't take down the whole system just the interpretter, leading to "crash resiliency," in low level applications like what you mentioned the hardware would be hindered by the JVM. But once again this doesn't mean your C++ GC is any better, just that you are not relying on an inbetween and any crash you have will take down the hardware instead of the VM. +--- 58075674 +>>58075629 +Java is not a low level language and should never be used as such, but it isn't as slow as many people believe +--- 58075693 +>>58075636 +>C++ GC is any better +I didn't say that C++ is any better, I just mentioned that memory leaks are not really a problem in modern standarts. +I would say that nowdays ugly template meta-programming and inhereted access vulnerabilities are most noticeable problems. +--- 58075747 +>>58072091 +>worries about the "soul" of a tool designed to kill Russians as efficiently as possible +Retard +--- 58075748 +>>58069668 (OP) +The old Rapier control unit was a box with lightbulbs indicating the direction of the aircraft, and literally just that. The modern unit introduced in late 90's not only replaced with a computer display for the radar showing actual position, altitude and speed, but also the ability to mark safe lanes for friendly aircraft that the system would refuse to shoot at to prevent friendly fire. +--- 58075778 +>>58072151 +No, it's a subjective statement regarding aesthetics. It has meaning. +--- 58075789 +>>58075674 +Doesn't much of its "slowness" come from shitty enterprise frameworks that wrap everything in dozens of layers of dynamically generated virtual method calls? That was probably the only way to make those shitty bean libraries somewhat ergonomic to use, but nothing in existence can execute that garbage efficiently. +The Java Virtual Machine can be extremely fast when running code that does not resemble typical Java code at all. +The software in actual weapon systems is probably not built out of spring-boot-startup-time-exponentializer or some shit like that. I hope. +--- 58075837 +>>58072269 +>These systems should be manned by commissioned officers at *minimum*. +The Russian military agrees. That's why 23% of its personnel are commissioned officers. +--- 58076091 +>>58075748 +Lol +--- 58076113 +>>58073703 +>>58074557 +Hell, guys. Until 2009, our ICBMs used 8-inch floppy disks. You're just lucky the Patriot doesn't run off of Jacquard Loom punch cards. +--- 58076175 +>>58072269 +>commissioned officers at *minimum*. +It goes: +Private Soldiers +Non-Commissioned Offices +Warrant Officers +Commissioned Officers +Regnant Officers (picrel) +--- 58076195 +>>58073703 +>The entire interface is coded in fucking Java. Not Javascript. Basic bitch Java. +java and javascript have nothing to do with each other. and frankly it would be much more alarming to have a weapon system written in javascript +--- 58076259 +>>58073703 +Your entire phone is written in Java. + +>>58076195 +This. +--- 58076295 +>>58075747 +Efficiency is no excuse for a lazy disregard for aesthetics. At least make the interior lighting red so it looks like a submarine. +--- 58076319 +>>58070076 +neato +--- 58076341 +>>58072269 +Diogenes is my spirit animal. +--- 58076346 +>>58075789 +It comes from a lot of things, but ultimately the JVM is one more obstacle between the hardware and the code and it will always be slower from that. Oracle has focused on big JVM speed improvements for awhile now, but Java also is shit for licensing and that scares off plenty of folks alone +--- 58076352 +>>58073703 +>he thinks Javascript would be more appropriate than Java +Actual retard. +--- 58076363 +>>58072269 +>>58076341 +He was the only Ancient Greek philosopher who wasn't afraid to get his dick out in public. +--- 58076365 +>>58076259 +Lol no it's not dipshit. Android makes use of a ton of low level c/c++. +--- 58076370 +>>58071018 +you can also use a keyboard and mouse like some kind of RTS if touchscreens aren't your style. +--- 58076391 +>>58074722 +Why am I seeing a smiling alien in the big display? +What kind of devil machine is this? +--- 58076397 +>>58076175 +>Private Soldiers +What, like mercenaries? +>>58076195 +What, you don't trust an engine that needs a dictionary to navigate data equivalence? +--- 58076406 +>>58076365 +Yeah fair I gave J*va a bit too much credit there. It's not good enough even for consoomer toys. +--- 58076407 +>>58075674 +The code C1 produces I can read, it's a very straight forward machine code. Basically if you write better code, it will run faster. C2 is like the crazy brother of C1 but it makes shitty java code run suprisingly fast but you cannot read it no longer. The biggest problem of java are all the shitty coders writing slow code. And with slow code is like algorithms so unoptimized, it's mind boggling. +--- 58076413 +>>58076259 +>Your entire phone is written in Java +Get the fuck out of here oracle, API and function structure/naming does NOT equate to implementation +--- 58076429 +Pff, I bet half of this isn't even running a Linux distribution. I'm bowing out my fellow /g/entoomen +--- 58076434 +>>58075375 +no one's using smart pointers nor disregarding allocations in real-time systems +--- 58076435 +>>58076413 +The insinuation was that J*va is the reason modern dumbphones are shit compared to glorious symbians with physical keyboards. +Also >>58076406 +--- 58076473 +>>58076346 +Did you know that printf() and cout<< has the same runtime in modern implementations? +You wouldn't think so because one is a (theoretically) low level function and the other is a one level higher implementation as a stream with memory sections, pipes and access control, but it's true. +The truth is that all the language we use is so abstracted - JVM or otherwise - that basic assumptions about how they're implemented can be wildly inaccurate to the reality of actual runtime. +--- 58076604 +>>58076473 +This is a wildly unquantifiable statement. All compiled languages will be closer to hardware than interpreted. Yes we have closed a lot of gaps, but in general speed comes from well written code combo'd with far smarter folks writing tools to optimize it for you. Modern hardware does a lot of heavy lifting to make life easier. +--- 58076795 +>>58076346 +True. Though if you write Java in a very specific way, the VM's JIT might spit out about the same machine code as a decent fast C compiler. +Some applications that absolutely need consistent performance for key tasks (but can't fall back to native code) use tricks like allocating large arrays of primitives, addressing them like stacks and sticking to simple loops and integer/float math. Code like this can execute at native-ish speeds after the JIT has had a chance to warm up. +Incidentally, these are operations the Java bytecode has specific instructions for. +As soon as you start writing so-called idiomatic Java, that perf goes out the window and soon most of the JVM's CPU time is spent chasing pointers in its garbage collector. +--- 58076816 +>>58076397 +"Private soldier" covers the junior enlisted (in the US Army everything between Private E-1 and Specialist, but not Corporal which a non-commissioned rank). +--- 58076882 +>>58074560 +>technology Russia can't produce anymore + +Judging by what we've seen recently, I'd say you're probably right. My question is, how did it come to this? If they once had the capability, what happened to cause them to lose it? +--- 58076947 +>>58076882 +>what happened to cause them to lose it? +The dissolution of the Soviet Union +--- 58076953 +>>58076947 +go on +--- 58077023 +>>58076953 +That's all there is to it. + +Much of soviet technology was produced in puccia's vassal states. +Right before the war, Ukraine literally maintained much of puccia's Black Sea fleet and some of their ICBMs. +--- 58077055 +>>58076816 +No one ever has used that term to refer to lower enlisted in the entire history of the American military or the English language. +--- 58077568 +>>58077055 +--- 58077582 +>>58077055 +>>58077568 +fuck wrong image +--- 58077761 +>>58077582 +right image +--- 58078819 +>>58076175 +>Regnant Officers (picrel) +For a second there I thought you said "Pregnant Officers" +--- 58079718 +>>58077055 +--- 58079764 +>>58073031 +It's lined with tinfoil. +He chose this way of life. +--- 58079769 +>>58077055 +>>58079718 +--- 58079786 +>>58079769 +>1909 +>UK + +yes, perfectly relevant +--- 58079799 +>>58077055 +--- 58079800 +>>58076391 +I see a smiling pig-like face, I bet the hohol biolab mutants are behind this. +--- 58079808 +>>58074722 +what did the US equivalent at the time look like? +--- 58079819 +>>58079786 +--- 58079822 +>>58075320 +Sounds perfect for my autism, honestly. +--- 58079883 +>>58079786 +--- 58079908 +>>58072269 +>overly engineered dogshit where field repairs are absolutely impossible + +Field repairs should be confined to replacing line replaceable units and repair of harness, mounts and other such items. Works fine for aircraft (including avionics back shop). + +What horrid shit were you afflicted with? +--- 58079937 +>>58079786 +--- 58079974 +>pictures of tank battle sights in action are incredibly rare +miniaturization is a hell of a drug +the M60A3 turned a ballistic computer the size of an espresso machine down to a mr coffee coffe machine while also adding a digital display and the ability to show numbers on the screen so your attention isnt divided + +the soviet mechanical computer was still about the same size, just hooked up to a laser rangefinder and working much faster +the hard part is that you still have to swap eyes between dials and the screen to make sure everything is in order + +really shows how far electronics in the west started to outpace the soviets, the only comparable device they had was on the T-64B +--- 58080153 +>>58073703 +>Javascript +yeah, say what you want about java - but at least it won't try to add a number to a word and not even have the decency to tell you shit is completely fucked. +--- 58080161 +>>58079974 +My favorite part of the T-72 fire control computer is that the housing for the LRF had very high tolerances so the LRF aiming spot for every tank was different since you installed the LRF and then had to put a dot on the optic where the LRF was pointing at. +--- 58080167 +>>58075540 +>It's slower. +--- 58080445 +>>58075595 +Even with UAVs java can pop up sometimes once you step away from the flight control stuff. Back in college I talked with a guy from General Atomics who was looking for Java devs to write code for some sort of predator drone payload. + +>>58076195 +The most terrifying phrase I have ever heard professionally was a talk I went to at work where a high level engineer stated with 100% sincerity +>I think the future of shipboard combat systems is full stack javascript +--- 58080491 +>>58074817 +>>58074805 +>>58074939 +>>58075173 +are you all special ed or has std::shared_ptr not reached the Indian curriculum yet? +--- 58080748 +>>58077055 +What the fuck do you think the rank of “private” is? +--- 58080772 +>>58080445 +>shipboard combat systems is full stack javascript +ah who gives a crap at this point, in 20 years we'll be lighting candles in front of mainframes and chanting incantations to the ai gods anyways. let the botards deal with it. +--- 58080780 +>>58069713 +>you will never degauss your radar monitor on a regular basis + +I genuinely don't understand how zoomies even fucking live without knowing the pleasure of degaussing a CRT after running a huge magnet across the screen. +--- 58080855 +>>58071057 +I understood that reference +--- 58080869 +>>58080780 +No one born after 1650 got to experience the peak fire control sovl that was the combination poleaxe/gunner's quadrant. + +>The dial is shaped like an axe blade and is balanced by a hammer face on the opposite side of a quadrangular socket. +>A pivoted pointer or pendulum marks the degrees of elevation on a quadrant etched on the edge of the dial, this being calibrated from 1 to 12 and from 1 to 10 outwards from the centre. +>The staff of rectangular section, is strengthened with steel strips running full length, these being etched with divisions headed BLEI, EISEN, STEIN, SLAGGEN, giving the diameter of lead, iron, stone and slag shot for a given weight. +>The ferrule at the base of the staff has a flange cut with a V-shaped notch while the neck of the hammer face which backs the dial is pierced with a longitudinal hole to form a peep sight. The gunner sighted the target through the peep sight using the notch in the ferrule as a fore sight, the elevation being read off the scale, presumably by an assistant. The staff was then placed in the bore of the gun which was elevated until the pointer registered the same elevation on the quadrant +https://collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-20915 +--- 58080892 +>>58075475 +I’m a principal engineer and most of my work has been in scientific computing, system software, and simulation. Now I’m working on custom rending engine forked from O3DE. And you’re a fucking midwit. Smart pointers have nothing to do with garbage collection. Moreover, C++ has far more flexibility for memory management. Most high performance software including virtually every game engine not to mention all your graphics drives use custom allocators which are each highly optimized specific use cases. This isn’t really a problem in terms of difficulty either since most of these are published, including some packaged in nice libraries. Also, performance when not IO-bound is still an order of magnitude higher with C++. Any of the things I mentioned would be at least 10x slower in Java. If anything is a possible substitute for C++ when performance matters, it’s Rust (but I prefer exceptions for error handing and you can’t change my mind). Yet another thing that makes Java shit is that it forces you into a narrow interpretation of OO programming, whereas C++ is a multi-paradigm language. Indeed, it’s not difficult to use things like template metaprogramming to create domain-specific languages right in your code. Modern C++ also has a much better concurrency model than Java and the ever growing standard library never sacrifices performance for its new features. Now some cretinous imbecile like you might claim that performance doesn’t matter as much as ease of use. That’s why we have overwrought frameworks built upon other inefficient frameworks built with shitty languages and websites that bring your browser tabs to a crawl with functionality that is 10% fancier than what ran faster on a 10x slower machine a decade ago. It’s because of the cunty opinions of kike nigger faggots like you. Now go seethe, cope, dilate etc. +--- 58080929 +>>58080869 +Now this is tacticool. +--- 58080945 +>>58069668 (OP) +<disables all ur missile base +pfft, nothin personal earthling +--- 58080948 +>>58070285 +>>58070316 +>>58075320 +Giant, overly complex machines like these activate my autism. I wouldn't mind operating them all day. +--- 58080966 +>>58073169 +that's a load of shit, my Iphone can barely scroll through twitter without shitting its self and you're gonna tell me the lowest bidder digital touch screen bullshit is going to work in combat better than some buttons +--- 58081003 +>>58080892 +>scientific computing, system software, and simulation +yeah cool story bro, but i sleep much sounder on a plane running on java spaghetti than some c++ autistry. that doesn't mean i want everything to run on java, right tool for the job and all. + +>functionality that is 10% fancier than what ran faster on a 10x slower machine a decade ago +that's the fault of users for being fucking spineless animals, if you don't complain about getting shit shoved in your face - you shouldn't be surprised when you get extra-rancid shit shoved in your face next. +--- 58081017 +>>58080948 +Then the era of electromechanical naval fire control computers would be perfect for you. +--- 58081034 +>>58080948 +>>58081017 +The Mark1A computer is so user friendly that continuously updating the input data can be performed by a mere seven or eight men. +--- 58081049 +>>58081034 +kek +impressive +--- 58081073 +F-35 uses rust btw and you're all gay +--- 58081086 +>>58081049 +dumb fact, the japanese needed 7 men to do the calculations for the rangekeeper alone +thats a huge amount of manpower saved by switching to electricity + +the machine also doesnt get tired over time +after an hour of doing math during evasive maneuvers youre bound to forget to carry the one +--- 58081315 +>>58080966 +>my Iphone can barely scroll through twitter without shitting its self +That's Elon's fault not your phone +--- 58081323 +>>58081003 +>right tool for the job and all +There’s not a single job where Java isn’t a worse choice than some other language. If it’s not performance critical and you insist on garbage collection and other handholding, then still something like C# is a far better language than Java. And this is not bias due to unfamiliarity. I’ve only used Rust a bit but can appreciate that it’s a good language. But I have 18 years C++ experience and 5 each of Java and C# and a couple each of Python and Javascript. Aside from Javascript, Java is the worst language. C# is basically what Java should have been +--- 58081336 +>>58081315 +Actually it’s this faggot’s fault for using twatter in the first place +--- 58081410 +>>58081086 +The word "computer" has been around since the 1630s, but the first time anyone used the word to describe a machine was in 1897. +Automation cost those seven hardworking computers their jobs, Now the computers will have to worry about how their going to pay the bills. What are the computers supposed to tell their wives when they get home? "Sorry honey, but computers are obsolete and they don't need me anymore." And won't someone think of the computers' children! diff --git a/k/58070467.txt b/k/58070467.txt index fec9b482623f0d305069e6aedc7e48e6c4aa5b8d..d2d1630f663c1d08acd731e54ef387f36499c683 100644 --- a/k/58070467.txt +++ b/k/58070467.txt @@ -33,8 +33,6 @@ Rules of Cangen: Previously: >>58060560 → --- 58070494 First for Wexit. ---- 58070545 -second for wexitroons won't do shit besides seethe and shit their pants --- 58070596 >>58070545 >t. butthurt ontariofag who wants the rest of canada to suffer as he does. @@ -42,8 +40,1190 @@ You know you can move, right? --- 58070640 >>58070596 It's ausmidget being butthurt, don't reply to him. ---- 58070895 -Conservatives: ->we stand for law and order! +--- 58071703 +GM frens. I’m going to buy some gun parts today I think. +--- 58072075 +>>58071703 +Very nice. What parts fren? +I just got a primary arms scope. Very nice +--- 58072213 +get ratfucked, finfag. +--- 58072350 +>>58070494 +Yeah +--- 58072364 +>>58071703 +What parts? +--- 58072374 +>>58070640 +I would do unspeakably romantic and gentle things to megu +--- 58072510 +Runkle of the Bailey talking about the C-21 Amendments. -Also conservatives: +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRNCrJjYPeY [Embed] +--- 58072580 +>>58072553 +Don't start with me anon + +>not today +--- 58072612 +>>58072553 +Cool story bro +--- 58072781 +>>58072510 +Didn’t he win a gundie award? +--- 58072785 +>>58072781 +stollen from reddit +--- 58072972 +bought these 3 for 200 bucks a few days ago, i been posting them just not together. I think i did pretty good finding that deal c: +--- 58073067 +>>58072972 +That's a great deal if they all work, what calibre is the shotgun? +--- 58073092 +>>58073067 +yeah I took the cooey and Squires Bingham M16 to the range and the shotgun is 12g. Havent shot them yet due to me not having ammo thats allowed at my range. I bought a box of clay disks and fuck ton of target ammo. Gonna have some fun on the weekend. +--- 58073125 +>>58072972 +You have a poorfag 17yo’s arsenal from 1990, nice score especially for $200. The squires bingham is a goofy gun but still fun to plink with. +--- 58073172 +>>58073125 +based picture anon. I got my expensive guns but i think im just having too much fun with cheap 12g target load and 22lr. I also found out the cooey model 60 can take 22lr, 22 short and 22 long. What is 22 long? Never heard of it, any anons wana help a fren out? +--- 58073202 +Any good surplus stores in downtown toronto? Or is it all airsoft tier? +--- 58073219 +>>58073092 +That's tight, I fell in love with single shot 12 gauges after Dave Canterbury's 20th century longhunter videos. Peak innawoods comfiness, especially with our furtrading history. +--- 58073223 +>>58073172 +lol, 22 Long is just 22LR, but black powder. They're essentially interchangable, though 22 long has been 99.99% replaced with just 22LR +--- 58073258 +>>58073125 + +>When the geese have UAVs and predator missiles +--- 58073260 +>>58073202 +I fucking hate it when i go to a surplus store and they are just some shitty ass stores who previously had surplus stuff and just use the name. Ive only been to a few. ABC surplus in Kitchener is alright, alot of repo stuff but it still had some cool stuff. Anything you where looking for or just gonna browse? I know u said Toronto but im just tryina help :) +>>58073219 +Confirmed based +>>58073223 +Thanks anon :) + +Here is a updated picture of the little nigger squire with a RDS. Cost me nothing to put it on because it was all spare parts. I want to put a 4x scope on it but it mounts a bit too high, good if i had a cheek rest but I dont know anything thatd work on that kinda stock. Any suggestions? I just use this for bench plinking off my deck when im at my cottage +--- 58073280 +>>58073260 +here it is with the scope and feet for you guys to cum to. There is the original rear sight thing, no front sight so its useless unless i buy a new one.. fuck that. It came with that crusty sling to +--- 58073284 +>>58073258 + +Tunnels, caves, dressing in plainclothes + +Neutralizes aerial support and massive forces + +They cannot find you, bomb you, let alone identify you + +You have to make it logistically impossible for them to eradicate the insurgency +--- 58073294 +>>58073223 +oh so thats why one of my super old .22s had a pitted barrel +--- 58073512 +>>58073223 +.22 Long is just a longer case with the same bullet as .22 short. +It was and still is commonly loaded with smokeless. +--- 58073796 +.22 short is superior +--- 58073904 +>>58073260 +I just wanted to browse and see if I can find some cool stuff. I'll be in toronto specifically for a friend of mine so I was wondering if there is anything I go to while I am there. +--- 58074069 +>>58073172 +.22 long is a .22 long rifle case loaded with smokeless that uses a .22 short bullet (usually 29gr). CCI and Aguila still makes it sometimes. CB longs are super fun and quiet not that anyone should shoot guns in their basement as that would be illegal. +>>58073223 +Not even close. Confident ignorance is the worst. +>>58073512 +Based and correct. +>>58073260 +You could carve some foam and wrap it on to the wire with textured tape, it’d look awful but at least work. +--- 58074079 +>>58072075 +>>58072364 +Glock extended slide releases primarily maybe a few other things +--- 58074101 +>>58073904 +If you like electronics, there is a crazy surplus store that has industrial equipment and old military electronics. Its not right in downtown Toronto, its in the metro area. The guy is a dick though, his google reviews are hilarious. +Electronic Surplus Industries +53 Sheffield St, North York, ON M6M 3E5 +--- 58074331 +Is tactikettle training worth it for the muscle and accuracy gains? +--- 58074455 +looks like we are stuck on the 180 and sks platform for 2 years or less +thats what poly is seething about in c21 +it only bans guns made after its enforced +--- 58074513 +>>58074101 +>Kevin was a virgin when he came in but not when he left +Ffs lmfao that's implying something completely different than what he was going for. I can't +--- 58074550 +>>58074516 +Stfu I experienced it differently +--- 58074573 +>>58074516 +Have you ever considered that people you have a casual relationship with are not gonna tell your their health problems? + +I personally was forced to get the vax and ive been experiencing brain fog and IBS like symptoms which were well documented side effects. +--- 58074604 +>>58074516 +Most people seem to know at least a couple cases of people facing sudden and unexplained medical issues pot jab. +They will never be forthcoming with accurate data on this, not for 20 years at least. So this debate is, and will always be hearsay and speculation. Better get used to it. +--- 58074615 +>>58074513 +>Ffs lmfao that's implying something completely different than what he was going for. I can't +His grasp on the language is weak, but he makes up for it with his insults. Ive gone there twice during business hours and both times it was closed lmfao. +One of those Toronto free magazines wrote an article about the guy/store a few years back. +--- 58074635 +>>58074331 +Sure. Why not. Though it is still important to put time at the range. +--- 58074701 +>>58074635 +I tend to avoid the range because I've been made fun of for my kit. Same reason why I haven't taken a CPR course yet, which is that I really don't want people scrutinizing me for 'trying to look like a paramedic' +--- 58074706 +>>58072510 +I find Runkle way too passive on his views on stuff sometimes, but he said what CGN boomers and some others don't seem to understand. There is still nothing good about this. Boomers love now thinking, "well I got mine, and they aren't getting banned!" Except they want to form an entire committee of Poly-type retards that, in 5 years when the bill gets reviewed, will still try to ban everything in existence. +--- 58074718 +>>58074701 +Stop being weird and everything will be fine. +--- 58074721 +>>58074701 +>giving a fuck about what other people think of you +What are you, 18? +--- 58074770 +>>58074718 +>>58074721 +He types like furfag tbqh. +--- 58074798 +>>58074718 +>>58074721 +I know boys I'm a bit rarted + +>>58074770 +Don't compare me to that airsoft loving, bow 'wish I could shoot it' degen +--- 58074816 +>>58074798 +Then don't act like him, anon. Just don't be remarded in public and you'll be fine. +Take classes if you want to. Go to the range if you want to. But don't attract negative attention like furfag. Basically don't have "main character syndrome". Just go about your day like a normal person +--- 58074826 +what's a good lpvo to put on the g36? +--- 58074840 +>>58074701 +what do you even mean by this? +do you go to the range in full larp gear? why even do that? +--- 58074844 +>>58074826 +budget? +--- 58074859 +>>58074844 +idk like $500ish? +--- 58074874 +>>58074859 +Burris RT-6 +--- 58074875 +>>58074859 +Primary arms is close to your budget +--- 58074896 +>>58074859 +Primary Arms are good, I run one on my SG-542. Good gun and if it can hold up to the recoil of 7.62 NATO that's overgassed to heck, it can handle .223 +--- 58074903 +>>58074859 +Does your G36 have the rail with the flip up sights? If so I would just get an Aimpoint Pro and low mount to co-witness with the irons. +--- 58075093 +>>58074903 +yes but the flip up sights aren't particularly practical +>>58074896 +is it's 0x truly 0x? i am a both eyes open guy +--- 58075107 +>>58075093 +It's always good to have backup irons in an emergency. +--- 58075114 +>>58074816 +Got it, thanks for that. +>>58074840 +I figure what's the point in having gear if not to train with? To each their own. I'm showing up in full kit again next time and just gonna ignore the idiots with their comments +--- 58075135 +>>58075093 +I use it as such. It's good for aiming with both eyes open. +I like mine. Check out "C_does" on youtube - he has first person videos with each of the PA LPVO reticles. I personally like the ACSS reticle with the chevron and rangefinder, but to each their own. the K.I.S.S reticle seems to be one of the best ones for close quarters. +--- 58075137 +>>58075093 +no LPVO is truly 0x, but they're usable. Both eyes ops works even on 3x, though not comfortably. +--- 58075218 +>>58075137 +I use both eyes at 27 power +--- 58075258 +>>58075135 +>>58075137 +ok that sounds not too bad then +>>58075218 +holy based +>>58075114 +>I figure what's the point in having gear if not to train with? +do that innawoods, why would you need to do that at the range? are you literally autistic? +--- 58075269 +>>58075258 +>holy based +left eye is for target acquisition and for watching the bubble level. right eye is for aiming. its takes a bit of practice but its not too hard when you get the hang of it +--- 58075359 +>>58074701 +>Same reason why I haven't taken a CPR course yet, which is that I really don't want people scrutinizing me for 'trying to look like a paramedic' +Literally nobody has ever done this to anyone, ever. Just don't come wearing reflective stripe pants and an EMT hat if you don't want to look like a wannabe. 12 year old girls have this course to babysit ffs get over yourself. +--- 58075410 +>>58074701 +>Same reason why I haven't taken a CPR course yet, which is that I really don't want people scrutinizing me for 'trying to look like a paramedic' +Nigga what? Don't tell me you actually play dress up to go to a basic CPR course isn't of just wearing normal clothes +--- 58075433 +Any of you guys ever used Athlon scopes? They seem to get very good reviews and are cheaper than equivalent Vortex or other more popular brands +--- 58075448 +>>58075433 +No but I seen wolverine start shilling them hard in the last few years +--- 58075449 +>>58075433 +Don't cheap out. You'll end up spending more in the long run with shitty equipment. +--- 58075485 +>>58075449 +Speaking of cheaping out, I got the Vector Frenzy that some Anon recommended a few days ago. +I was only interested in it for night vision compatibility for the off chance of passive aiming and it seems to be fine so far. +--- 58075524 +>>58075485 +At least it's not a fuckin Pinty +--- 58075576 +>>58075410 +this is such a funny bit. Pull up to the cpr course in full paramedic kit. Even funnier would be a combat medic getup. +--- 58075615 +>>58074826 +LPVO and g36 go hard and vortex gets my vote +--- 58075651 +>>58075615 +what model? +--- 58075695 +>>58075615 +is the scope is touching the rail wtf +--- 58075744 +>>58075485 +Do you have NV anon? If you can afford NV you can afford a decent dot. +--- 58075755 +FInally, a use for LAR9 magazines. +You can gorilla glue them baseplate to baseplate for a pseudo-20rd stick +--- 58075760 +>>58075755 +QRD? +--- 58075773 +>>58074721 +--- 58075774 +>>58075755 +>>58075760 +Maybe the new PSA guns? They're remaking a bunch of antique guns in more modern calibers. +--- 58075791 +>>58075773 +Literally me. +--- 58075824 +>>58074721 +The only reason you don't care is because everyone only has shit opinions about you. It's a sour grapes kind of thing. +>I-I don't care what they think of me! I didn't want them to have any modicum of r-respect for me anyway! +--- 58075881 +What is the court cases likely outcome? I'm worried that this new boomerfudd council being announced will fuck us beyond belief if the judge doesn't rule in our favor. +--- 58075887 +>>58075744 +I keep better dots on my handguns. I don't expect to get much mileage out of any piggyback red dot since I only need it there for NV use. I much prefer using lasers with NV anyway. +>>58075760 +>>58075774 +Scuffed 9mm FG-42. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ue_O7oJX8 [Embed] +--- 58075894 +>>58075881 +Bro it's been three years since the first OIC, and they haven't even announced a buyback, despite saying "We will do it this summer!" in 2020. +In the same vein, they literally won't do shit. This council will probably never even happen lel. +We won. +Poly Lost. +--- 58075905 +>>58075485 +This is relevant to my interests, with picrel setup I cannot manage to get a correct passive aiming with nods. +--- 58075921 +>>58075824 +You're quite right; I should always modulate my appearance and behaviour to suit the social expectations of whoever may be in my immediate vicinity. +--- 58075924 +>>58075905 +I don't think you can look through a 45 degree offset red dot with nods. Piggyback works well because it is super high up, though you get a shit cheek weld which is why I would never passive aim unless it's some emergency. +--- 58075938 +what are the chances we get some decent gun options back? Assuming we get funny hair man out of office, how long would it take to revert the last few decades of damage? Apologies if this is a tard question, I'm new. +--- 58075957 +>>58075938 +If you're new, and I'm not saying this to be a dick, just saying this because we get this question way too fucking often: LURK MORE +Post guns. +There are still plenty of great options available, and even more will be available to us as soon as July. +--- 58075960 +>58075524 +JANNY CLEAN IT UP +--- 58075978 +>>58075960 +nah that ain't finfag. I understand the PTSD though, anon. I still can't read posts with "!" in them anywhere without wincing. +Finfag would try and CONVINCE people to buy one of those dogshit scopes +--- 58075979 +>>58075924 +I can manage to align the nods with the offset optic, I even see the glow of the dot but I just can't get anything in focus even after trying everything with the adjustment on the nods. One of the main issue is that I'm retarded, that's a big factor. +--- 58075988 +>>58075979 +Does that red dot even support NV? What is it exactly? +--- 58075989 +>>58075957 +Sounds good. I've seen some pretty interesting setups over the few days I've spent here. I guess I may as well be patient make the best of what the current situation, it seems like we have some pretty unique options compared to the US. +--- 58076014 +>>58075989 +Do you have a PAL? +--- 58076039 +>>58075894 +Sure but my point is that the feds are creating insurmountable odds. The damage created may be too big to reverse in one or two conservative terms. +--- 58076045 +>>58076014 +no, soon though +--- 58076055 +>>58075978 +not fin fag. i just want to know what the problem with them is +--- 58076080 +>>58076055 +hes a demorailzation fed the government sent to harass us. all he does is spam nonsense. +--- 58076082 +>>58076039 +No, they literally aren't, lmfao. +Don't be a doomer. They literally haven't done shit, and will continue to not do shit. +The PMO just had a bunch of people step down to move into campaign-readiness mode. The liberals are going to call an election, and they are literally throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks with voters right now. They won't do shit. I fucking promise you. +>>58076045 +Get PAL, then come back. Noguns aren't welcome here, sorry bud. +>>58076055 +Dogshit chinesium. Amazog shit. Stay away at all costs. +--- 58076084 +>>58075988 +Vortex crossfire, 2 NV settings. +--- 58076119 +>>58076082 +>Dogshit chinesium. Amazog shit. Stay away at all costs. +ok. you have convinced me +--- 58076127 +>>58076084 +Maybe try mounting it further up like in front of the LPVO. +--- 58076178 +>>58076082 +I don't understand their push for election right now when they're down in the polls. +--- 58076207 +>>58076082 +Sorry, I don't mean to be a doomer. I try to stay positive but it's been difficult. +--- 58076233 +>>58076178 +They must be forecasting that they will be even lower in the polls if they wait until the end of term. +--- 58076307 +>>58075989 +>>58076045 +Get your PAL asap, you never know what bullshit is going to be pulled next. I regret that it toom me as long as it did to get mine +--- 58076401 +Marstar sells a 3D printed SKS recoil buffer set for $20 but I just copied the design and made it myself, if anyone wants the STL file I can share it. I absolutely hate when people sell 3D printed products. Like nigga put some effort into it +--- 58076431 +>>58076084 +*NV compatible +That isn’t exactly a good dot in the daytime. If you’re trying to use it in the real dark and it’s still blooming out, you may just be restricted to using it in brighter conditions. Alternatively, you are trying to focus the dot, you’re not supposed to, you should be focusing through the dot. Just adjust the focal pense of your NVD to the distance you actually want to see and then look through the optic. +--- 58076442 +>>58070467 (OP) +The only weapon I need is my Holy Rosary + +https://youtu.be/W_kKIibHuf0 [Embed] +--- 58076459 +>>58076307 +>>58076082 +got it, I'll get the process started in a few days. +--- 58076483 +those on sks rifles sold out quick. is there a real big announcement around the corner or something? +--- 58076486 +>>58076442 +Guns aren't inherently weapons. I use mine for hunting and target shooting. I pray my Rosary daily as well, but in the fallen world we still must toil, and I still have to put food on the plates of my children. +Besides, we can't expect God to do all the work. +--- 58076502 +>>58076442 +the pope is a jew +--- 58076539 +Thread theme +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE [Embed] +--- 58076559 +>>58076459 +Definitely, it will probably take a couple months to get into the course, depending on where you live. Then there's the processing time +--- 58076632 +>>58076559 +I'm looking at a local course and it says the cost is $380, is that normal? +--- 58076644 +>>58076442 +>The only weapon I need is my Holy Rosary +The last words of many a priest before their gold and nuns were carried off by Ch∧d Nørse Bvlls +--- 58076671 +>>58076632 +yes +--- 58076673 +>>58076632 +Found another one that's a bit under $250 that's only a few minutes away, I should probably go with this one eh? +--- 58076763 +>>58076644 +--- 58076782 +alright cangen need some advice, I've recently done my pal and I'm about to send in the paperwork. I've been around firearms for 20 plus years and been shooting lots with frens, I have a few guns coming to me from an inheritance when I do get my license that are currently being held by family. I need recommendations on what else to get, so far I will have + +>Lee enfield no4 1943 production all original +>7mm spanish Mauser +>norinco yj12-2 pump 12ga +>toz17 russian. 22lr +>cooey 840? single shot 12ga +>cooey bolt action. 22lr single shot +>mossberg maverick 88 +>some old semi mossberg .22lr +>ancient Husqvarna exposed hammer sxs 12ga + +what else should I be saving for? +--- 58076783 +>>58076673 +Yeah spend the extra $130 on ammo. Do you have any PAL/RPAL family members or friends? See if they'd be down to buy stuff on your behalf now and give it to you the day your card comes in the mail, that way you can take advantage of stock and sales before everything inevitably gets worse. +--- 58076796 +>>58076782 +Sounds like you've got milsurp, plinkers, hunting and maybe a HD shotgun all covered there. That's a great starting point, contrats on the family guns btw those are the best kind. +Next up I'd say SKS if poor, Type 81 if not poor. Lots of ammo to go with it so you can git gud, don't forget to build and maintain a healthy reserve. +--- 58076805 +>>58076782 +id get rid of the single shot stuff, the 7mm mauser, husqvarna might keep as long as its 2.75" shells, some old ones are 2.5" which are no good these days +--- 58076808 +>>58076782 +I'd say +>keep the enfield +>Unless you have sentimental value or really like it sell the Spanish Mauser +>Sell the Norchinko shotgun +>Sell either the toz17, mossberg .22 or Cooey single shot as you don't need three plinkers although they are both decent +>Keep the mossberg maverick 88 unless you plan on upgrading to a proper mossberg 500 or 590 +>Husqvarna SxS, really up to you but unless you intend on shooting it often or it has sentimental value i would sell it. +We've freed yourself up $1.5-$2k for you to go buy yourself something nice. +--- 58076906 +Am I being retard for only having a type 97 gen 3, 2 SKS and a Hakim for semi autos? + +I haven’t had any issues with my t97 and I’ve used it in a few matches already +--- 58076956 +>lsdfag is back from his 30 day vacation +--- 58076998 +>58076975 +I like your swastikas but youre still a fag. Overdose and shut the fuck up forever +--- 58077017 +>>58076956 +>>58076998 +aaaaand he's gone. +Nice. +Good fucking work janny holy shit. +--- 58077020 +>>58076783 +unfortunately no, I would have gotten into this a lot earlier if anyone in my family was into it. That's a great idea though +--- 58077041 +>>58076796 +sks is definitely on the list, maybe type 81 too. never handled an 81 so not sure if I'd like it. money is not a huge issue +>>58076805 +I'll never sell guns anon but thanks for the warning on the husky I didn't know that +>>58076808 +the Mauser is sentimental and mint shape, I'll keep the mossy and maybe get a 590 too also want a good semi 12ga but like I told the other anon I'll never sell guns + +I'm at work right now but I'll be lurking until 11:30 whenever work is slow, what should I look at for a bolty boi I want to put glass on? thank you anons for the advice so far +--- 58077110 +>>58077080 +Shut the fuck up. +Anyways I know this question has been asked a million times, but if the OIC is repealed which should I buy first? AR, VZ, STAG10 or XCR? And why? +--- 58077134 +>>58077110 +Honestly its probably best to just see how the market goes. A lot of people will be selling as soon as its repealed (assuming it does) and I think you might be able to find guns at below their market price before the oic went in effect. Of course that prediction might be totally wrong, in which case I think it would be best for the market to stabalise and new stock of XCRs, VZs etc. to come in +Assuming they ever actually import XCRs again, the rob arms guy is a total fag +--- 58077156 +>>58077041 +Type 81 is ok, VZ was a lot better but it'll be a while before that's a choice for you again. If money isn't too big of a deal I'd say get the T81 but make sure you grab a few crates of 7.62 corrosive and set at least one aside. +For a bolty the Savage 110 is solid and Cabela's has them for $800 pretty often. For a bit more then Tikka CTR is really nice. Unless you want to hunt beware the Axis/American/Lite and guns like that, thin barrels heat up fast when you're target shooting. +For a scope Vortex is good and has a magnification and price to fit basically anyone's needs. +--- 58077201 +>>58076763 +Based axe wielding, dress-wearing, balding virgin Norse-stomper. +--- 58077209 +>>58077201 +Couldn't get digits like the BVLL sadly. +--- 58077215 +>>58077134 +I feel like it's going to be revoked due to the wording of this new ban. It seems to imply that the government does not want to waste time trying to catch what's currently being manufactured, sold or otherwise already in circulation, which almost all oic nu-prohibs fall under. That and another anon pointed out it's been just over three years and no confiscation plan has been passed. +XCRs seem okay for the money and I'd like an NR that's not an AR that shoots 556, isn't stupid expensive and has a ton of parts availability. I'd like a siberian but it's too new. +--- 58077229 +>>58077078 +fuck off finfag +>>58077156 +leaning towards the tikkas but I'll check out savage 110 as well, I'm thinking vortex is a decent option. probably not going to hunt and probably won't shoot past 300 yards often +--- 58077267 +>>58077229 +New guy from last thread here, would you be able to post your thoughts if you try out/get either of these? I'm interested in both of em +--- 58077344 +>>58077267 +both will be accurate but the tikkas will be much nicer and hold better value +--- 58077381 +>>58077267 +yeah for sure fren, though I'm going to be waiting on my license to get approved for a while, hopefully not too long tho. the savages I've handled in the past had kind of sloppy feeling bolts, I don't know if the newer ones are better. I've handled a tikka once but not shot it, seemed very nice +--- 58077424 +>>58075894 +I wont call this a win. They are so retard that they literally ban the futur. + +Right now nobody care, but when some cool shit hit the market we wont be able to get it. + +Also this totally unbias councile will ask the gov to ban anything that look scary, and bypass the parliament. + +All they will have to do at this point is remove the little part saying you can keep your guns pre-c21. So in the end you wont be able to circumvent the law with new tech like portable railgun and laser. +--- 58077439 +>>58076796 +>SKS if poor, Type 81 if also poor. +Fixed. +>>58077041 +>money is not a huge issue +Buy 2 or 3 Tavors, blessed by christ they are impervious to malfunction. and the last good modern gun that will make it into canada if this amendment passes. +--- 58077459 +>>58077424 +Perfect Dark *sip*, now that was a game. +--- 58077463 +>>58077439 +Say the amendment passes but the oic gets revoked, does it even matter? We won't see direct energy firearms, laser guns or any big advancement in firearms tech except for MAYBE things ala sig spear. So even then, AR15s, cold war era rifles and the rest, wouldn't we be fine? +--- 58077478 +>>58077459 +It was fuckin phenomenal for its time +--- 58077502 +>>58077463 +energy weapons aren't centrefire thus aren't effected by the future-ban in its current state. +But still my point was to grab the best new/modern gun on the market while you still can, the future is uncertain, we dont know what the bans will looks like 1, 2 ,10 years in the future, all we know is now. +--- 58077528 +>>58077502 +Well yeah but neither are tavors, valmets, type 81s, siberians and even the nu-prohibs. We won't see huge advancements in firearms technology except for the materials they're made of, so even if this amendment passes (which honestly it probably won't), it wouldn't matter for decades, probably even a hundred years. +--- 58077555 +>>58077528 +Theres a pretty big difference between a tavor and a siberian, one you can trust with your life, the other... +valmets and 81's may be 'fine' but they are not modern; mounting options, ergonomics, etc. +--- 58077578 +>>58075114 +Everyone will just find out about your autism. People only dress in kit when they go to a tactical range, nobody in good mental health would go to a regular bench rifle range in kit. Wtf are you thinking +--- 58077609 +>>58077578 +You will never get good with your kit if you don't train with it. +--- 58077616 +>>58077609 +Sitting at ye olde deer rifle sight-in range while you sweat into your Condor chest rig isn't training, anon clearly said it's for tactical ranges. +--- 58077640 +>>58077555 +What I'm trying to say is almost all semi autos that have been produced, are currently being produced and are already in people's hands will do us fine even if the amendment passes. It's such a poorly thought out amendment that only looks good and is only disastrous on paper as it currently stands. It doesn't do anything. +--- 58077651 +>>58077578 +I do. Scares the fudds away too. They’re all sticklers for the rules, and they know I haven’t broken any by doing it, so they choose to just leave rather than try and rock the boat because that’s who they are +--- 58077697 +>>58077651 +Boomers, fudds, nufudds and temporary gun owners need to be expelled from gun ownership and ranges. Only way to ensure guns exist hundreds of years from now +--- 58077736 +Press M for Meow +--- 58077767 +>>58077736 +M E O W +E +O +W +--- 58077801 +>>58077736 +More of a Fin man myself desu +--- 58077825 +I hope in the next life I can shoot full autos alongside fox girls. +--- 58077836 +>>58076401 +Not everyone has a 3d printer, nerd +--- 58077863 +>>58077041 +It's ok to sell guns but don't see any of the inherited ones. Get an sks or type 81, maybe some sort of 5.56 rifle down the line. +--- 58077884 +>>58077651 +Well obviously you do, you're autistic af. +--- 58077922 +>>58077651 +>>58077697 +You 2 should bang, coupla fags +--- 58077932 +>>58077609 +Are you gonna be an army man someday sunny? +--- 58077942 +>>58077439 +if I get a tavor it will be my one overpriced tactical bullshittery rifle, are there any other options to consider? I'll be looking for a 180b as well but I probably won't be dragging it through the mud like I would with the tavor +--- 58077973 +>>58077942 +The famae (not him I swear to god it's an honestly cool rifle), RDB, SL8, T97 are all viable but each have their own quirks. +--- 58077981 +>>58077922 +Don't say that, there's literal homos in this general that might take you seriously. +--- 58077988 +>>58077555 +Nice trips. Idk my T81 is pretty damn modern. Has a light, adjustable sopmod stock, an LPVO, and a handstop +--- 58077991 +>>58077981 +I don't wanna live in rain-bow land +--- 58077993 +>>58077836 +ESL? +--- 58077994 +>>58077942 +>>58077973 +The end is near frens, don't halfass your primary rifle, min/maxing whatever little advantage you can get is King when to lose is literally to die. +X95 is the only option. +--- 58078006 +>>58077863 +all of the guns I mentioned are inherited, I might part with some if family wants to get into shooting or hunting but I'd rather keep everything because I don't have a space issue at the family farm where they'll be kept. + +so far on my list to save for I have +>sks (maybe multiple I just like them) +>type 81 lmg +>tikka or similar bolt action +>beretta 1301 or similar +>mossberg 590 +>180b +>tavor or similar Gucci shit +--- 58078028 +>>58077041 +God tiger stripe camo is so cool, i saw some of it on gunpost, might pick it up. I LOVE TIGER STRIPE +>>58077767 +Meow +--- 58078031 +>>58077973 +fuck how could I forget the famae! thank you anon. +it goes on this list>>58078006 as an alternative to the tavor +--- 58078034 +>>58078006 +180b are a bit overpriced for what they are, could get a brand new x95 for less. +--- 58078052 +>>58078028 +yeah I need some as well, I dropped about a grand earlier this year on surplus tho. got some British desert dpm and a bunch of alpenflage with various other gear +--- 58078077 +>>58078034 +I want the 180b for different reasons than I'd want other 5.56 rifles but yes you're right +--- 58078079 +>>58076401 +Qrd on SKS recoil buffers? Is this actually solving a problem? All the reviews claim it "slightly reduced recoil". One review even claimed that you can have damage shooting an unbuffered SKS after 100 rounds. I've fired both of mine several hundred with little evidence of wear inside the dust cover or on the recoil spring +--- 58078094 +>>58078079 +what recoil +--- 58078129 +>>58078052 +Some some gunpost, might have to +--- 58078142 +>>58078079 +Useless garbage designed to separate fools from their money, rifle is fine. +--- 58078179 +>>58078129 +Crown surplus sells full tiger stripe BDU sets at probably around the same price but it's new and you can choose the size. +--- 58078194 +>>58078142 +I still want to try it in the name of science but I don't have a 3D printer and am not particularly willing to purchase a buffer. +--- 58078215 +>>58078179 +Thanks anon, looks like they are out of the jacket in the gunpost ad and it looks like it would fit. Thanks though +--- 58078232 +why is Hog hunting banned in Ontario? +--- 58078247 +>>58078232 +Big Hog keeps its minions protected +--- 58078253 +>>58078232 +Because ontario worships invasive and destructive pests of all flavours and species. +--- 58078323 +>>58078232 +The govt doesn't trust you to do it, they hate their people, theyll wait till it's bad enough to cause an uproar then spend untold taxdollars hiring foreign professionals to do it. +--- 58078331 +>>58077884 +and you’re a fuck who’s afraid of what complete strangers might thInk of him. Most of those strangers couldn’t give less of a fuck anyways and just brush it off. You are the only one here that seems to take particular offence to it. +>>58077922 +What’s your obsession with gay men anon? You closeted or something? +--- 58078367 +>>58077994 +No, I don’t think I will. +>>58078232 +If we did that we wouldn’t have any provincial employees left. +--- 58078417 +>>58078367 +Ok mr. 'got mine AR', but we were talking about whats actually still available. +--- 58078423 +SAY HIS NAME +--- 58078437 +>>58078323 +Where'd they hire those two ass clowns from lmao I would've done it for free +--- 58078443 +>>58078423 +ADOLF HITLER +--- 58078492 +>>58078423 +Jimmy "the Mountie Mauler" Roszko +--- 58078499 +>>58078417 +What makes you think I’m one of those “got mine” types? Should I start tripfagging so people can see my schizoposts about minecrafting some duplicated items into a new chunk? +>>58078437 +That’s what most status Indians look like these days. Everyone and their dog qualifies with the right paper trail and sob story. Hell, even I qualify and I’m the spitting image of an aryan. +>G0YS J4 +wdhmbt? +--- 58078505 +>>58078437 +>Where'd they hire those .. ass clowns from +New Zealand apparently, lol +>https://hakaimagazine.com/features/deer-wars-the-forest-awakens/ +--- 58078513 +>>58078417 +he is just some fed trying to encourage people here to do illegal activities by his own examples +--- 58078528 +>>58078437 +>I would've done it for free +'You dumb rednecks would just end up shooting eachother.' -the govt, probably. +--- 58078555 +>>58078513 +I’m gonna molest you so bad you’d defend me at the trial. +--- 58078560 +>>58078505 +If they were so insistent on making foreigners do it why wouldn't they just open some sort of safari-esque hunt where you have to pay to play instead they could've made a killing. +--- 58078591 +>>58078505 +>expecting our government to try and. balance the books +They don't care anon. All they know is how to outsource jobs to foreigners and hemorrhage money. +--- 58078593 +Imagine not only living in torcongo but, also being a leafs fan hahahahaha, absolute fuckin disgrace +--- 58078601 +>>58078591 +Whoops, meant for +>>58078560 +--- 58078633 +>>58078560 +But anon, that wouldn't be this fast an efficient +>The dogs cornered their quarry in the forest or drove them onto the beach to be picked off from the boats, while stragglers that sought refuge in inaccessible terrain were sniped from helicopters. +--- 58078670 +>>58078593 +imagine not only caring about sports, but also caring about which teams other people support +nigga you gay +--- 58078672 +>>58078633 +Hell provide lodging, flights, gun rental, give them a bag limit of 3-5, charge 3-4 grand per hunter, include a trophy / processing fee, ez peasy. Could've hired a bunch of n8s to facilitate and lodged everyone in teepees. Sail the hunters over on handmade canoes made from n8 craftsmen like fuck how hard would that have been could've just turned it into a perpetual business +--- 58078693 +>>58077215 +I want an XCR in .308 since I dont feel like parting together a STAG10 or anything, out of the box I wanna be able to shoot shit and hunt +--- 58078704 +>>58078593 +Is this tornontonigger in the room with us right now anon? +--- 58078705 +>>58078693 +XCR-M is super front heavy. +--- 58078725 +>>58078670 +>>58078704 +I have a few hundred against the leafs, it's about money for me faggots. +--- 58078734 +>>58078672 +Seems they wanted to completely remove all deer from the southern end of haida, to create an "invasive-mamal-free zone", they also were killing all the rats. +--- 58078751 +Any cangen bros do carnivore diet? +--- 58078769 +>>58078751 +I eat ground beef and canned tuna every day +--- 58078807 +>>58078751 +I only consume Monsantos most value brand goyslop sprinkled with extra msg. +--- 58078837 +>>58078725 +then invest in silver or ammo you degenerate gambling addict +>t. don't actually care but I rag on my boys who bet on sportsball so you get the same treatment +--- 58078845 +>>58078837 +You must be a zoomer fag, we've been doing that since 9/11 lol. Must suck being a broke low test PuZZy +--- 58078864 +>>58078751 +no but I'm thinking of trying it out. got a bit heavy now that I'm in my 30s. up to 203lbs and 5'9" now that I have an easy job that pays ok. time to switch up jobs and stop eating sugar +--- 58078894 +>>58078845 +Listen here boomer, some of us were told enough to flip houses during the 2008 financial crisis OK? Some of us just got to suffer the repercussions of your fucking stupid gambling problems. now if you don’t mind I’m going to continue dual discipline slop/Debtmaxxing simultaneously so I can upgrade my rifle to thermal and my mono to dualies +--- 58078901 +>>58078845 +nope I'm >>58078864 this guy, just never been into sports more of a camping and atv guy. most of my boys I grew up with are typical hockey fans who drive trucks and hunt but not into target shooting or collecting so I make fun of them for being normies +--- 58079006 +>>58078894 +I am not a boomer. Just was blessed by God to be born in the early 90's, not too early to be a late boomer BBQ faggot, not to late to have been raised on electronics painted nail zoom fag. Where the fuck can you buy cap guns anymore? +--- 58079028 +>>58079006 +>Where the fuck can you buy cap guns anymore? +Every dollarama in the country +--- 58079066 +>>58079028 +There are a few where I am and random chink dollar stores and none carry them. +--- 58079125 +>>58079066 +Probably because the urban youth where you live use them for free gibsmedats +--- 58079257 +>>58076906 +No, not a retard +--- 58079280 +>>58076906 +How much for the Hakim? +--- 58079290 +>>58078367 +Perhaps fair in that if you really wanted the best from your main rifle, then obv you should be looking into getting a smuggled in fullauto M4/M16 or similar. +The main thing special about the jew guns is how good they are relative to how easy they are to obtain. +--- 58079324 +>>58076782 +Your pal is going to take a while +>3-11 months +So buy things you don’t need a pal for +>a good safe +>good ear pro +>reloading equipment, which you’re going to need if you want to shoot .303 British +I would also save money for ammo and any cool guns you want other wise sounds like your pretty set from that inheritance unless you want a black rifle. +--- 58079392 +>>58079006 +--- 58079429 +>>58079324 +>a good safe +uggh gross, ive been putting that off for years now, i really want one but cant find one that ticks all the boxes for me enough to putoff buying more guns or ammo... +For now ive got a locked cabinet, more like an repurposed ikea-shit wardrobe. aswell as locking guns in thier softcases with luggagelocks. +--- 58079531 +>>58079429 +the problem with gun safes is you will end up getting more and more guns to the point where they all cant fit in the safe anymore defeating the purpose of buying the safe in the first place +--- 58079574 +>>58076084 +That dot is one half-step up from a $15 Aliexpress no-name airsoft toy. I wouldn't even waste my time with trying to get it to play nice with nods. +--- 58079590 +>>58079531 +I think ill be fine with a 12-15gun safe, i dont intend to own any more than that as id like to keep my collection concise, refined. I dont buy guns that dont have a purpose, each fills a certain role/niche. +--- 58079607 +>>58079590 +Lmao, my nigger, that is what literally every one of us said. When I got my PAL I thought I'd have a handgun, a shotgun, maybe two or three rifles tops. Now I'm cramming 24 guns into my 18-gun safe. +--- 58079608 +>>58078807 +Cut your nails fag +--- 58079623 +>>58072350 +>>58070494 +Yeah +--- 58079630 +>>58079607 +Yeah fine i'll admit that that would probably happen, eventually, and i may just currently be coping with having limited funds, i cant just go out and buy everything i want right now, i put much thought into each purchase. +--- 58079640 +>>58072972 +Honestly I love your .22, how well does it shoot and how accurate is it? + +I realize it’s not the same as this one, same manufacturer though + +Can’t go wrong with a Cooey, they have really nice triggers & will last generations. +--- 58079644 +>>58073125 +>>58073172 +Needs to be mirrored because that is a non existent left handed SKS. +Still a cool image +--- 58079651 +>>58079630 +Of course, it doesn't happen all at once. It took more than a decade to get to this point for me. But if you're enough of a gun guy to be posting on /k/, then it's eventually inevitable +--- 58079658 +>>58079630 +>i put much thought into each purchase. +correction, i panik bought some shit i regret under duress of banhammer, niggers forced my hand, otherwise id like to think of my purchases aa well-thought-out. +--- 58079669 +>>58079640 +>that image +lmao how have i never seen that? pretty obvious cry for help in hindsight I guess +--- 58079670 +>>58079658 +That's another thing that we can all say. I only ever owned one handgun until they got serious about banning them, now I own three. +--- 58079674 +>>58075107 +Yes. + +I have my back up sights on one of +my rifles cowitnessed with my red dot & magnifier. +--- 58079690 +>>58079640 +Havent tried it for accuracy yet but ill report it when i do, It shoots every time i press the triggers so im happy about that. the barrels are easy to find and replace so i might buy one for later down the road. I wish i had the fixed stock, but i like it nontheless! I might pickup a new cooey model 600. Just why not? they are really cheap + +Does anyone know what stock or what i could put on here as a cheek rest? +--- 58079701 +>>58076644 +Yes +--- 58079709 +>>58079690 +>Does anyone know what stock or what i could put on here as a cheek rest? +pool noodle +--- 58079739 +>>58079590 +My gun safe eventually turned into my ammo storage safe and even that thing is jammed pack now. +--- 58079760 +>>58077201 +He didnt stomp the Norse because he never even set foot in Scandinavia. + +He was killed by Frisians in the modern day Netherlands. Learn some history & pull the pope cock out of your mouth. + +Frisians =/= Norse, while they had similar Gods and spoke similar languages, they were completely different tribes. + +Watch some Survive the Jive or read the Prose Edda or the poetry of Egil Skallagrimson. + +“The scream of swords, +The clash of shields, +These are true words +On battlefields: +Man sees his death +Frozen in dreams, +But Eirik's breath +Frees battle-streams. + +The war-lord weaves +His web of fear, +Each man receives +His fated share: +A blood-red sun's +The warrior's shield, +The eagle scans +The battlefield.” +--- 58079773 +>>58079531 +>the problem with gun safes is you will end up getting more and more guns to the point where they all cant fit in the safe anymore defeating the purpose of buying the safe in the first place +Stop being a consoomer. You aren't doing yourself any favors by acquiring yet another piece that does the same thing as one you already have. 1 gun per set of use cases, maybe a backup at most. I only have a few rifles and I don't have enough time outside of work to maintain proficiency on them all. +--- 58079793 +I want to get a Remington 700sps an 308 like pic related, but I'm not sure if I should go with the 16.5" barrel or the 20". I've seen on youtube people make 1000yard shots with the 16.5", but idk how effect the round would be at that range. Anyone know how much of an effect barrel length has for 308/7.62 velocity? +--- 58079801 +>>58078323 +Whoa you screencapped my post. Cool +--- 58079816 +>>58079773 +It just depends what you get out of them. If they're purely tools for you, that's fine. They're just as much toys for some of us, though. I don't need any of my milsurps, my modern guns do everything better. But when it comes to guns I'm like a woman with a hundred goddamned pairs of shoes. I get enjoyment from ownership +--- 58079825 +>>58078437 +New Zealand actually + +https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/ottawa-spends-5-7-million-on-deer-eradication-in-haida-gwaii-featuring-new-zealand-sharpshooters/wcm/8a8298a4-3e16-4269-9d91-20bac02557ad/amp/ +--- 58079832 +>>58078232 +Because we listen to woman-brained faggots who tell us that "hunting them will just make them adaptable", as if their motivation is pure and not just based on anti-hunting +--- 58079838 +>>58079793 +The most efficient barrel lengths for .308 is 26", 24", and 20". Everything in between just means more or less velocity which means more or less range. +--- 58079889 +>>58079832 +It's exactly like the situation with cormorants. When they started wiping out swathes of foliage and ecosystems with their literal shit, the Ford government declared hunting seasons on them. Only for "the scientific community" (literally picrel) to start bitching and moaning that it was the "wrong way to manage them". + +https://euc.yorku.ca/research-spotlight/ontarios-cormorant-hunt-and-what-it-means-for-its-future/ + +There's always some excuse with these faggots why letting people hunt is the wrong answer. +--- 58079898 +>>58079854 +540 or 542? +--- 58079922 +>>58079838 +love how you can push 20" AR15 tier velocities with VMAX loadings out of a 24" gun. Fucking .308 moving at 3000 FPS like holy fuck, I gotta get a chronograph and test this out one day. +--- 58079961 +>>58079669 +“I’m not the only one” + +There are a few pictures of him holding various guns to his head, one of him holding a target pistol up to a fans head. It would be foreshadowing except it seems likely that he overdosed then Cali, the live in nanny who was also banging Courtney Love shot his corpse in the head to make it look like a suicide. + +There was also a bunch of conjecture that Allen Wrench was paid to kill him by Courtney, Dylan Carlson from the band Earth(really good band, I like the song German Dental Work, Ripped on Fascist Ideals & Tallahassee, it’s good gloomy PNW music) claimed Courtney tried to hire him but he was very good friends with Kurt & wouldn’t do it. He ironically bought the shotgun that was connected to Cobain’s death. El Duce from the Mentours was interviewed where he said “Allen” killed Kurt, El Duce was found dead near some train tracks shortly afterwards. The Mentors have some hilarious songs. + +Really Courtney Love might be the most dangerous woman in music. + +https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xg1GV-pfCWs&pp=ygURZWFydGggdGFsbGFoYXNzZWU%3D [Embed] Here is an Earth video where they end up buying a revolver from some dude in a parking lot and then pick up a hitchhiker or hooker who OD’s. + +I lived for about a month in Washington State, it was sort of a gritty place that has been made worse by leftist social policies & Californians moving there and ruining the state. I admittedly liked the grittiness of WA, too bad their government is going overboard trying to implement laws that are basically as bad as Canada’s. +--- 58079970 +>>58079793 +The thing about the Remington 700 SPS is the trigger and stock suck. +Trigger is basically 5.5 pounds. Comparable rifles are typically 3.5 these days. So you have to upgrade that right out the gate. +The issue with the stock is specifically with the Hogue rubber stock because it is shit for mounting a bipod. It causes the stock to bend slightly which makes the barrel lose its free float. Now if you are going to run it without a bipod then the stock is perfectly fine. +--- 58079990 +>>58079889 +She looks like she smells like penny’s that have been coated in dried coffee. +--- 58080042 +>>58078704 +hey thats my town nigger, i know where you are. +--- 58080055 +>>58078807 +yep you're definitely in my town, spooky +--- 58080066 +>>58078079 +Just transfers more shock into the receiver +I have no idea if it works I haven’t even shot it yet but I imagine it must help somewhat +Whether it’s a noticeable amount or not, no clue +--- 58080087 +>>58079816 +>But when it comes to guns I'm like a woman with a hundred goddamned pairs of shoes. I get enjoyment from ownership +This is also fair, though hoping collecting remains a valid reason for ownership, as anon we are going to establish a committee of professionals who decide which guns are and arent "reasonable use for hunting or sporting". +Those are the only reasons to own a gun anon, obv nobody needs on for other silly thigs like livestock defence or dangerous game control/protection, and certainly nobody in the govt talks anymore about collecting as a valid reason to own a gun, even though thats a valid reason in even most civilized nations with strong gun control. +--- 58080124 +>>58080087 +Guns aren't registered and probably never will be again in our lifetimes, considering how badly it fucked up the Liberals politically. I don't see how they stop collecting even if they wanted to +--- 58080187 +>>58079838 +Thanks chart anon + +>>58079970 +So I'd have to use a shooter's sling instead of a bipod? In the videos I've seen the people are always using a bipod and seem to get consistent sub moa groups +--- 58080193 +>>58079608 +I refuse. Else the crack at the bottom of the bag will remain unsnorted, and that is a compromise I am unwilling to make +>>58080042 +Well I’m home now and I’m farther from Toronto than you now. So whatcha gonna do about it? +>>58080055 +>show up +>climb on top of a building using the roof of truck +>refuses to elaborate further +>leaves +--- 58080199 +>>58080124 +You dont need to provide a reason anyways (yet) except with Restricted guns (only 2 choices with those, collecting or target shooting) +But still they could achieve a similar effect by simply banning anything that they feel doesn't most "reasonably" suit their 2 chosen reasons (hunting or sporting) +--- 58080203 +>>58080193 +why were you there, there's nothing going on here and most of our restaurants suck. there's only one good one on main street that makes a good hoagie. +--- 58080213 +Gonna take my Garand out this weekend. Really excited :) +Haven’t shot it since winter +--- 58080225 +>>58080213 +When was winter? My snow just finished melting like 3 days ago. +--- 58080226 +>>58080203 +Work. Best believe schizoanon is gonna say I’m gonna groom you to be a mass shooter but I’ve already filled my lifetime quota +--- 58080229 +>>58080199 +>You dont need to provide a reason anyways (yet) +Funny you say "yet", because they actually did used to ask you the reasons you wanted NRs on your PAL form. Apparently they stopped doing that around 2015 or so. +--- 58080244 +>Take cleaning kit out of SKS stock +>Sniff it every time +God, that smell +--- 58080253 +>>58080187 +It's probably fine with the bipod, but losing free float is always going to cause uncertainty. +--- 58080255 +>>58080226 +know of any good crown land semi close? i'm guessing you're from muskoka or parry sound or somewhere around there. +--- 58080260 +>>58080225 +Yeah pretty much same +Looking at my ammo spreadsheet I last shot it three weeks ago. I guess not that long ago, but the drastic difference in weather makes it seem like several months +--- 58080336 +>>58080255 +Uhhh, I live nearly three hours away anon. I got nothing. I work all over the province. If you want to take a boat out, I’m sure on that coast further up there’s some nice little swamp you can skeet in. All my spots would be at least a three hour drive from you. +--- 58080358 +>>58080336 +damn +--- 58080394 +>>58080358 +Wish I could actually help, usually I go up to the hydro lines in the mountains up round here, or to the abandoned quarries on the provincial park access roads, or just go to the reserve since they’re chill and I know a bunch of em. The reserve is on the same lake as yours, but by the big island. +--- 58080441 +Anyone ever do a trigger job on their SKS? Seems like CSC has aftermarket sear springs, anyone have any experience with these? +--- 58080454 +>>58080260 +>Another anon with an ammo spreadsheet +My brother +--- 58080459 +>>58080454 +How about a gun spreadsheet, made a list with their calibers and valuable accessories. +--- 58080460 +>>58080244 +both my guns are impregnated with that smell and my whole gun locker smells like that smell i cna smell it just talking about it love that smell its a good smell to smell guess I didnt clean the cosmo out of the wood very well +--- 58080464 +>>58080394 +i know of a couple spots but they're still a good distance away. simcoe county is pretty shit if you're a gun owner and don't want to have to deal with boomer ranges. hopefully i'll be moving farther north eventually, toronto citycucks ruined the price of real estate in this town and the surrounding area. +--- 58080468 +>>58080460 +One of my most rare and expensive guns absolutely reeks of cigarette smoke, sprayed it with fabreeze and now it smells like cigs and fabreeze. +--- 58080470 +>>58079690 +>>58079709 +Pipe insulator, it's a thinner diameter pool noodle but it's black and already has a slot to slip it over pipes. +--- 58080473 +>>58080244 +If much rather be huffing HER smell if you catch my drift. +--- 58080474 +>>58080470 +plumbers are hella gay bud +--- 58080484 +>>58080473 +buy black zip ties +--- 58080493 +>>58080484 +thats a good point, but dont just stop there try to get UV resistant ones and see if theres a cold rating on them as plastic zip ties really dont like being frozen. +--- 58080501 +>>58080493 +shiet wtf +--- 58080503 +>>58080464 +I do a lot of work down there and drive all over the area. It’s quite saddening to see what those parasitic blackrock niggers did to your beautiful countrysides. All those soulless fuckin semi-detached developments and ugly “modern” houses. I hate it sooooo much. +>>58080484 +No, I don’t think I will. +--- 58080505 +>>58080459 +Not accessories, but I have a spreadsheet of all my guns with their serial numbers, barrel lengths, OALs, calibers, etc, and another sheet that keeps track on how many rounds I have through my guns, and on what dates. +--- 58080517 +>>58080468 +kek +--- 58080525 +>>58080505 +id call you guys autistic and claim that you're hella gay office workers but I'm currently in the midst of struggling through writing a book on the SKS so I guess im a autistic too :/ +--- 58080527 +>>58080484 +Kek I told an anon to replace his white zip ties with black ones and got roasted. I think we're a tier above the typical cangen autism +--- 58080529 +>>58080503 +yeah it's disgusting, they're doing it even more as we speak. they're tearing down even more woodland in the town to build more mcsuburbs for mystery meat niggers and various torcongo creatures. +--- 58080530 +>>58080468 +smother it in cosmoline +>Verification not required. +--- 58080547 +>>58080525 +Kek, when I'm doing shit like this, I have take no issue with being called autistic +--- 58080551 +>>58080529 +I hear that all of the machines are keyed alike in Minecraft, and that you can download the keys for every type by logging onto the Amazon server and paying 50 emeralds to a villager. +--- 58080591 +>>58080551 +>>58080529 +>>58080503 +look at these feds +--- 58080593 +>>58080547 +is there a free version of excel or something similar I dont wanna pay bill gates to use it and i dont wanna download cracked shit and get computer AIDS +--- 58080597 +>>58080591 +lol +--- 58080598 +>>58080591 +They've caught on to the minecraft references its time to use something more obscure like Stellaris I guess. +--- 58080600 +>>58080591 +Only 2/3? Fuckkkkkkk. +Also, hey schizoanon. +--- 58080606 +>>58080593 +Libreoffice is a free office suite that has a spreadsheet application +--- 58080622 +>>58080591 +... .... ..- - ..- .--. -. .. --. --. . .-. +--- 58080624 +>>58080600 +when you stop being the literal only person posting here that acts like a fed i will stop calling you a fed +--- 58080632 +>>58080624 +you replied to me too buddy, not liking mystery meat torcongo niggers makes me a fed? +--- 58080647 +>>58080632 +when a fed casually mentions some kind of specific target to attack you arent supposed to agree with him +--- 58080658 +>>58080647 +lol i didn't even respond to that post, only you did schizo +--- 58080663 +new +>>58080659 → +>>58080659 → +>>58080659 → +--- 58081260 +>>58080441 +rifle is fine anon. no trigger job +--- 58081279 +>>58080527 +2.5 foot black zip ties are essential, they double as fetish whips in a pinch. also very good for securing the front bumper of your Subaru after totally not intentionally running over traffic cones when you leave the bar. which I definitely did not do tonight diff --git a/k/58070774.txt b/k/58070774.txt index 516827a13ba7ffdc9a38494604e65b06d232f97a..c2da02ebed43f64908345e4db1ea8bba3f3bf7fd 100644 --- a/k/58070774.txt +++ b/k/58070774.txt @@ -6,3 +6,555 @@ How popular would gun ownership be in Australia today had they never had any gun No. Australia is 7 cities an a giant desert the size of Europe. America's gun culture was forged broadly by people going out to settle land to call their own. Australia closed its frontier before it was settled. --- 58070872 ye similar though more looked down upon the faggot soi vaxxie leftists that make up 80% of our population now +--- 58071567 +>>58070774 (OP) +No one has guns here because no one has guns here. The only people that do are based farmers and social rejects in the suburbs outside of the major cities. +Plus its a fucking pain in the ass to get and own a gun here, so why bother +--- 58071598 +>>58071567 +I wonder how difficult it would be to smuggle in a select fire AR-15 from the US into Australia. +--- 58071605 +>>58070872 +Have you tried fucking off to the US, or some other shithole that hands out tools designed to kill humans like candy? +--- 58071616 +>>58070774 (OP) +Without those laws? There'd be a fuckload of gun ownership. + +A fuckload less farmers, an indigenous militia, a couple dead prime ministers, but a fuckload of gun ownership. +--- 58071624 +>>58071616 +>implying abos are smart enough to organize a militia +They would sell their guns for booze day 1 and then get drunk and fall asleep in the road. +--- 58072681 +>>58071616 +Cope harder NZ had fuck all gun ownership and zero militia and in 2019 everyone handed their guns in without a single shot fired. + +Zero Australians shot John Howard in 1996 and not a single cop got shot at any gun buyback the people handed all their guns in like cucks and did Jack shit. +--- 58072809 +>>58070774 (OP) +we tend to be america lite, where american trends infect us but only 5% of the population rather than 100%. I see middle class white men with maga hats, sovereign citizens, enormous trucks etc occasionally but they're rare. + +There'd be more guns in the country, since they get use there and the rules would be more lax. not dramatically more, but more. Teenagers who currently get a dirt bike might get a gun instead and go spotting. + +Cities wouldn't have a big gun culture, it'd mostly be some dickheads in the suburbs with a rifle and mentally ill people. + +honestly, our gun laws are pretty great. 'you can own a gun, you just have to show you care about guns and look after it'. everybody who has a gun uses it for work or goes to a gun range regularly. if somebody owns guns in australia, they probably don't talk about it much because it's an interest and not an identity. + +>my dad owns a sako 22 from the 70's but lost the magazine in the 90s, if anybody knows somebody who could obtain that shit so I can surprise him for his birthday he would be able to shoot more foxes +--- 58072827 +>>58070774 (OP) + +I know one thing. If I was a Chinese general I would be thankful for current Australian gun laws. Imagine sending in an invasion force and have to face as bloodyminded a bunch as the irregulars who fought in ww1 and ww2. Now the Chinese know an occupation will be an easy one. +--- 58072882 +>>58070774 (OP) +We Aussies had many guns before the buyback and still do. Although, I've made a doc on better gun laws for Australia. +https://web.archive.org/web/20190929090259/http://www.foaa.com.au/buy-back-statistics-and-australia-stock-of-firearms-compiled-in-1998/ +https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TdVJPH5KC5u0KRsSLTn-2TvU7ZKcyko2wwl10RbpTSk +--- 58072989 +>>58070774 (OP) +Not remotely. It would have been the same as it was back in the day, assuming US political influence is a non-factor. People would just simply have guns and it'd literally never be talked about. +--- 58073001 +>>58072809 +Which model? Generally they're a dime a dozen in Finland but I don't know what your import laws say about dangerous boxes with a spring +--- 58073017 +>>58071616 +>an indigenous militia +lol. lmao even + +>>58072882 +>perfect gun laws +>there are still license categories +I shiggy diggy + +These would be good improvements that people could get on board with if pushed in state parliaments though definitely. +--- 58073045 +>>58073001 +P75 I think, but I'll have to confirm when I'm at the farm next. our import laws block slingshots so they'll definitely block boxes with springs. +--- 58073058 +>>58072827 +Imagine unironically thinking the Chinese would be able to invade Australia and beat back the US but then be stopped by a bunch of gunniggers with semi autos AR-15. + +The gold medal for mental gymnastics goes to gunniggers and pretending widespread death and maiming due to guns to their own citizens is somehow a good thing. +--- 58073071 +>>58073045 +.22 Hornet? Defendor in Finland does ship abroad and they specialize in rare mags. What the fuck is wrong with your laws also +--- 58073077 +>>58070860 +>>58070872 +Hopefully nukes start hitting cities like Melbourne, Sydney and Canberra. That would be a godsend. +>>58073017 +Licence categories I'm not sure about. Although, I kept the licence concept because it serves as a filter. +--- 58073086 +>>58073058 +>gunniggers +>>>/lgbt/ +--- 58073110 +>>58073058 + +You mean like how the US totally sent forces immediately when non-NATO member Ukraine was invaded? But hey, you do you. If you to this day believe USA will come to rescue you just like that, then good for you. +--- 58073131 +>>58073058 +>but then be stopped by a bunch of gunniggers with semi autos AR-15. +Let me start by saying you can buy select fire AR-15 trigger groups and conversion jigs online, but semiauto is what most of the fighting would be done with. Full auto is only accurate within 50 yards at man sized targets. Of course, it would be nice to have a few guns to function as suppressive fire machine guns, but I'm certain if a war were going on in Australia, that there would be plenty of converted AR-15s popping up. +--- 58073133 +>58073058(you) +--- 58073151 +>>58070774 (OP) +Why is every Anglosphere country except America a wasteland and retarded on guns? +--- 58073157 +>>58073045 +>definitely block boxes with springs +But they probably won't block a shipment of springs. +And a later shipment of boxes. +--- 58073162 +>>58073071 +yeah its the hornet. Thanks, I'll look them up. I have a mate who used to work in the state firearm licensing office here so I'll hit them up and ask about the permitted methods of importing. +--- 58073184 +>>58073151 +The elites import foreigners to keep wages down and spread anti-gun propaganda so the disgruntled sheeple won't try and shoot them +--- 58073222 +>>58073162 +They don't have one in stock, but you can ask them to locate one. For some reason this bit of information hasn't been written on the website in English. +--- 58073245 +>>58070774 (OP) +Australia is banning vapes. No amount of guns could keep it from becoming the pozzed shithole it is today. Ozz is Pozzed +--- 58073266 +>>58073184 +This. + +it's legitimately orchestrated. +--- 58073268 +>>58073184 +>so the disgruntled sheeple won't try and shoot them +Probably literally why both parties in England are banning every weapon inc machetes + +When you’ve presided over a Russian level collapse in living standards you don’t want your constituents to have any power +--- 58073275 +>>58071605 +>>58073151 +Tell that to Canadian gun owners giving Trudeau a hard time. +--- 58073289 +>>58073245 +Ausfailia, rhymes too well kek. +--- 58073341 +>>58073275 +where’s the sic semper tyrannis? +You got nothing to lose +--- 58073405 +>>58073110 +I don't know if the US would rescue Austria and I don't give a fuck about Mozart and Kangaroos. + +But i know: what won't stop any Chinese invasion is fat retarded right wing militias that make the armies of Donbabwe and Luganda look like well oiled fighting machines in conversion. + +At least the execution of those idiots would improve the human gene pool. +--- 58073424 +>>58073405 +American citizens with guns often help the police. In an all out invasion, right-wing militias would be cooperating with the military. Guerrilla war is a pain in the ass for an invading force. They can't just go around slaughtering all the civilians, because the backlash from doing so would be immense. +--- 58073434 +>>58073405 +fuck off glowie +--- 58073446 +>>58073266 +dumbfuck cops and feds ensure everyday honest to god, born in country Australians suffer at the behest of career politicians for their fucking brownie points. + +probably reading this thread rn and doxing me, fuck you feds, hope we get fucking nuked and someone else can have a clean fucking start +--- 58073451 +>>58071598 +Suppose you meet someone at a prearranged time on one of those big abandoned beaches. Anchor your sea going vessel, and beach a dinghy unload a few and turn around. It's not very cost-effective but not too complex. +--- 58073473 +>>58073451 +assuming you get past border patrol +--- 58073485 +>>58073424 +Imagine being so unironically retarded that you actually think a china invading Australia wouldn't fucking kill some right wing niggers because of muh backlash. You should see what they are doing to their own citizens, much less legally executeable franc-tireurs. + +And imagine unironically thinking American insurgent right wing armed cunts are a boon to police. I can't wait for the day y'all get disarmed and the holdouts shot. +--- 58073503 +>>58073424 +They don’t, they’re fighting cops and they especially hate the FBI +They also gave up on democracy so a chuddist rising which gets crushed by the glowies and normal gun owners is on the horizon +--- 58073520 +>>58073451 +>Distance from California to Australia is a minimum of 6,447 nautical miles. The trip is estimated to take between 45 and 60 days. Hawaii and Fiji are two perfect locations to stop along the way for food and fuel. Best time to sail is arguably November to March. +https://www.lifeofsailing.com/post/california-to-australia +If I'd ever do such a thing, I'd make sure to bring a shit ton of guns, and I'd likely be a bit paranoid of border patrol, but then again, tons of abandoned beaches. +--- 58073532 +>>58073485 +I can't wait for the day people have enough and execute left wing extremists in the streets for pedophilia and the single handed cucking of a nations economy. literal cope, blaming a countries problems on the people that built it, not the sudden shift in left wing politics dictating decisions the last 100 years. + +Double down, i'm sure it'll work out well for you. dumb cunt. +--- 58073535 +>>58071624 +Ah yes the Van Zandt County method. +--- 58073541 +>>58073473 +Yeah, admittedly, I don't know anything about their border patrol. But, let's say a guy went all in on this. One could would pose as a fishing boat and spend some time figuring out their routs and times, and wait for an opportune moment. +--- 58073562 +>>58073532 +Right wingers build any country when? + +Have you seen the richest and most prosperous parts of America? Liberal + +Have you seen the shithole cousin fucking dilapidated opioid injecting gun loving states? Conservative + +Cope all you want but the Libs are winning and you'll hand over your guns during your lifetime. +--- 58073597 +>>58073562 +you mean the parasitic white collar class profiting from blue collar? just tell me you don't know anything about working economy. + +a parasitic nation isn't sustainable, you don't have to be a genius to figure that out. +--- 58073606 +>>58073541 +I wish someone would. + +but I'm not hopeful for them getting past radar, your best bet is to have a legal reason to enter Australian waters but hide them really fucking well on the vessel somewhere and dump them on your selected beach to a receiver before docking. + +or island hope from like papua new guinea area down to cape york. but still, not hopeful for you, lot of open water for radar to pick you up +--- 58073619 +widespread access to firearms would further expose all the failings of our country. stupid, poor, uneducated people, when given guns, will invariably shoot and kill each other. that's half the reason our firearm laws are so strict - and why democrat controlled states in the US curtail them as well. our rulers care more about covering up societal decline than they do about fixing it or improving living conditions. the other half of the reason is obviously to suppress the possibility of armed insurrection against them. anyway, gun control is the same thing as admitting you have no standards +--- 58073632 +>>58073541 +this has happened time and time again. I remember a group of bikies got busted smuggling in guns from the us. basically some faggot robbed a place with a cat d rifle and it spiked a big investigation leading to the arrest of these men. cbf to look it up but I remember it happened, im not schizo. + +I imagine you could get away with it doing this method https://insightcrime.org/news/analysis/why-colombia-cocaine-traffickers-love-high-tech-torpedoes/ +--- 58073647 +>>58073619 +literally a self correcting issue. stop standing between darwin and a gene pools success +--- 58073670 +>>58073632 +Interesting method. +--- 58073681 +>>58073606 +Oh no, not me, I have other stuff going on, and that's a bit out of my way. Not exactly a pit stop from Kodiak. +--- 58073688 +>>58071605 +Nice b8 cunt +--- 58073716 +>>58073606 +>>58073681 +>but I'm not hopeful for them getting past radar +Don't worry about any radar. Radar is good for finding things in the air, not for finding things on the ground or in the water. +>your best bet is to have a legal reason to enter Australian waters +Just get a visa. +--- 58073724 +>>58073597 +Lol you're a coping spic that needs to work manually so all the people in a real cushy job with skills can profit. + +Yes they're exploiting you. The problem is only that they are doing nothing wrong, it's the natural order of things, smart people are the alphas and dumb hunks of meat the betas that can be exploited like any other animal made to serve actual humans. +--- 58073725 +>>58073222 +I appreciate the effort you have put in anon, you are a good man +--- 58073743 +>>58072809 +>honestly, our gun laws are pretty great. +>gun laws +>great +Go play in traffic, you fucking communist. Why even live in a ostensibly free country anyway? If you want quick and easy bullshit software money and the comforting embrace of a nanny state, move to china. +--- 58073776 +>>58073724 +That is the mentality that's gonna get you beheaded in the street by a blue collar man when things get bad, like i said, double down, it'll go well for you. + +go cry else where beta male +--- 58073792 +>>58073724 +>"dindu nothing wrong" +>screams about oppression when people finally have enough and fight back + +you're the spic. +--- 58073852 +>>58073451 +>>58073520 +>>58073541 +>>58073632 +>>58073716 +There has to be a really casual and covert way to do this that is less risky. I have an uncle that is a top sailor in the freight shipping industry. He remembers dealing with other sailors who were doing all sorts of illegal things. He had a group of French sailors invite him over when he was docking, and they were getting drunk and smoking pot on the ship. They respect the privacy of their sailors, so theoretically, if he was completely down with it, I could probably bring him all the parts needed to build a gun, and he could just smuggle it to whichever countries he visits next. +--- 58073894 +>>58073852 +and we're all arrested for conspiring to import illegal firearms, just make shinzo abe specials, delete whoever necessary and then delete gun control laws, easy profit. probably spend the same amount of time in jail if caught anyway +--- 58073935 +>>58073743 +how do you feel about traffic laws? +--- 58073955 +>>58073935 +>apples to oranges. + +you can still buy a car without a license. + +the only way that'd be a good comparison is if you could buy a gun and then have to have a license to carry it in public, which I would be okay with +--- 58073957 +>>58073894 +>and we're all arrested for conspiring to import illegal firearms +This still happens, by the way. In the US, you can buy relatively new AK-12s at highly-premium costs whenever they're available, even though their import is illegal. Some of them end up slipping through. You can also buy brand new Polish Radom pistols for around $3000. The only reason the price is so high is because they have to be smuggled in. I'm sure there are tons of other examples. +--- 58074010 +>>58073957 +With a bit of connections you can also easily buy an AK or Handgrenade here in Europe. With a lot better connections even stuff like Strelas. Its possible everywhere, the only problem is cost. +--- 58074053 +>>58074010 +>or Handgrenade here in Europe. +I've heard this is possible because a bunch of civilians got their hands on Yugoslavian hand grenades after the breakup of Yugoslavia. The same can't be done in the US. You'd have to make your own hand grenades from scratch. +--- 58074093 +>>58070774 (OP) +Not even close. Gun ownership was never considered an important, inalienable right by most Australians because they weren't treated as weapons to wield against attackers; they were a hunting tool that was more a symbol of preparedness for national defence in post-WW2 society, rather than being actually used in militias. It's fundamentally different because up until urbanisation filled in the land between small townships with low-cost/high-density housing, the idea of your home being assaulted was essentially preposterous. Aboriginals were largely unarmed, belligerent locals were pushed out of communities specifically to avoid violence and thieves were generally the poor and destitute who stole food and useful materials from yards and properties. Even in cities, the idea of owning a gun for protection was basically laughable and city-dwellers who owned guns were enthusiasts who typically bought hunting and target shooting rifles that would be entirely impractical for home defence. + +Certainly the government feared gun owners in small, rural towns because of their general resistance to intervention and willingness to come together as a militia, but it's just not the same level of broad organisation as state militias in the US. +--- 58074130 +>>58074093 +>doesn't know about the kelly gang and other bush rangers + +isn't gonna make it in the new world +--- 58074165 +>>58073894 +>Arrested for conspiracy. +>Has taken no action other than discussion +>Which is the 1st Amendment to the Constitution +No case. +--- 58074188 +>>58074165 +>Australian + +haul him away, that's all the case they need. fuck this country +--- 58074191 +>>58074130 +Yeah, except bushrangers essentially died out by the 20th century and were already a rare breed of roaming loners immediately suspected and known to locals who had police move them on. You know why they're so famous? Because getting into a shootout with police was seen as wild and crazy. +--- 58074218 +>>58074191 +>source, trust me bro + +get fucked statist +--- 58074258 +>>58074218 +>source +Reality. Get a fucking grip, man. Not everyone who disagrees with you on some unrelated trivia is your ideological opponent. Guns are good and should be owned widely by the populace, but Australia never had a reason to buy them in large numbers or entrench their ownership as essential in culture. +--- 58074260 +>>58074010 +Hand grenades are actually very rare in Finland though common in Sweden. Go figure why, I guess the white meatheads forming the bulk of our biker gangs prefer their Uzis. +--- 58074312 +>>58074260 +>prefer their Uzis. +Is it easy to get select fire Uzis in Europe? +--- 58074407 +>>58071598 +he got one into NZ so probably not that hard +--- 58074430 +>>58074407 +wasn't he a legal owner? +--- 58074452 +>>58074407 +>>58074430 +He didn't fire anything full auto. +--- 58074476 +>>58074452 +still leaves me questioning, cause semi auto is near impossible to get in Aus too +--- 58074534 +>>58074407 +>legal owner of an ar15 with 60 round mags in AUS +i don't think so +>>58074452 +if you can smuggle in a semi auto you can smuggle in a modified full auto. If you want an actual factory full auto, good luck getting someone with a registered tax-stamped original m16 lower that costs 40,000 dollars to illegally sell it to you across an ocean. +--- 58074564 +>>58074534 +>good luck getting someone with a registered tax-stamped original m16 lower that costs 40,000 dollars to illegally sell it to you across an ocean. +What the fuck. You would just pay someone who knows how to convert lowers to accept select-fire trigger groups. +--- 58074582 +>>58074564 +>>58074534 +>if you can smuggle in a semi auto you can smuggle in a modified full auto +reading comprehension +--- 58074594 +>>58074582 +You shouldn't have included that last statement. +--- 58074598 +>>58074582 +>>58074594 +Also, I wonder what the footage would have looked like had he used a full auto AR. +--- 58074686 +>>58074598 +he probably would have ran out of ammo. +--- 58074690 +>>58074686 +Good point, but it would have been beautiful to listen to. +--- 58074727 +I can give you guys an apples-to-apples answer. + +In 1997, Australia confiscated 650,000 guns, which was considered the simple majority of guns in a nation of at the time 19 million people. Like by whatever metric, they figure they got about half of them. + +For comparison, in 1997 the US had 272 million people, and approximately 240 million guns. +--- 58074748 +>>58074312 +They're at least quite common in Finland. Turn up in every illegal firearms bust, and quite a few collectors own them legally +--- 58074754 +>>58074748 +>and quite a few collectors own them legally +The select fire versions? +--- 58074765 +>>58074727 +also even more embarrassingly at the same time the UK had 58 million people, and confiscating only 162,000 guns nearly ended civilian handgun ownership in the country, entirely +--- 58074872 +>>58074727 +no lawful use for them, no handguns, no pro self defense laws, Australia was still cucked in 96, they were just double cucked in 97 +--- 58074889 +>>58074188 +Oh, for the Australian, yeah I don't know their laws. +--- 58075363 +>>58074754 +Of course, why would you get a semi when you can get a full auto? For us non-collectors I have only seen one semi-auto Uzi ever +--- 58075450 +>>58074872 +>no handguns +Whuh? Aren't those about the only semi-auto gun you can still get? +--- 58075521 +>>58073245 +>Australia is banning vapes. +that hurts chink exporters though. How fucking dare they?! +--- 58075542 +>>58073424 +>They can't just go around slaughtering all the civilians, because the backlash from doing so would be immense. +concentration camps all over the western chink colonial provinces purging all of the tibetians, uyghurs, mongolians etc. Bet you have never even heard of them. Dealing with insurgents is easy when you dont give a shit how much you need to slaughter +--- 58075637 +>>58074727 +what was the point of all of this? its not like you could buy any of them without going through things like medical checks to verify you were not a actual schizophrenic. That is why there were so relatively few to begin with. Or judging by the bananas coof hysteria in australia/new zealand response just wannabe tyrants in sheep clothes trying to get the tools that can be used against them? +--- 58075918 +>>58075450 +no, they're harder to get than most rifles. + +>6month minimum at pistol club +>shoot a competition every 3 months just to hold licence +>safety course +>actual pistol licence + +it's fucked +--- 58075994 +>>58073724 +You would be nothing without offshoring manufacturing to China - which is gonna bite you in the ass, when Changs no longer accept $. Now you have college educated barristas and expat pajeet IT fags, that will abscond at the first sign of trouble and work for whoever pays them more. no loyalty, no brains, no nation. +--- 58076683 +>>58075994 +>when Changs no longer accept $ +Yeah China is just going to stop accepting America but stuff, post guns +--- 58077190 +>>58075994 +Keep coping and believe you'll one day be anything more than a plumber, Sergio. Now fixo toileto muchos quicko or I'm calling immigration. +--- 58077232 +>>58077190 +>shits on your Mercedes and fucks your wife instead +--- 58077274 +>>58077190 +can guarantee you're someone's office bitch and you talk shit about real men to feel better about your low test +--- 58077363 +>>58077274 +So the real man is the one with no money ruining his body over the one working in a air conditioned room behind a desk and making more per day than you in the week? + +Sorry for misgendering you as Hispanic, i accept your self-identification as nigger. +--- 58077384 +>>58077363 +you're too stupid to argue with. + +you think a man would have to ruin his body before retirement if there wasn't a parasitic sub human suckling his money away? +--- 58077669 +>>58077384 +Assuming your theory is actually true, who's the idiot: the one choosing the life of the content, happy parasite or the one being the dumb hunk of meat hosting the parasites and ending up totally exhausted and dead with 65? + +But actually just your dumb brain cannot comprehend that people value and pay for things that aren't made with manual labour. Go back to Africa if you want to idiolize their shitty hand to mouth society. +--- 58077729 +>>58077669 +I don't blame you for choosing a hedonistic life, I blame your parents. + +>calls others hand to mouth +>chose life's easiest paths + +never gonna make it +--- 58077744 +>>58077669 +your genes get weaker and weaker through the generations whilst the blue collars become stronger and stronger. + +your children will fight the battles you put off, assuming you even procreate. +--- 58077806 +>>58073532 +>and the single handed cucking of a nations economy +I think you forgot about Reagan +--- 58078760 +>>58075918 +Easier to get if not hold than they are in Finland though +--- 58078835 +>>58078760 +I'm not arguing who the most cucked country is, all I want is change, but Australia are blissfully unaware tax cattle. +--- 58078877 +>>58074727 +>Scrapping an M16A1 +I'll never forgive Australia for this. +--- 58078941 +>>58077744 + +>Dumb people mate with dumb people and die early due to the stress of manual labour +>Smart people get rich can pick the best women and stay healthy, getting smart male and attractive female offspring + +Muh "my genes are better than yours because my retard education stopped at Lamarck and so my genes get better by usage right?" +--- 58078984 +>>58078941 +you're really out here confusing blue collar workers with degenerate niggers. + +cope onions boi, your *insert profession you rely on to survive* fucks your wife while you're in the office. +--- 58079146 +>>58078984 +>Confusing blue collar workers with degenerate niggers + +Yeah I'm sorry to the niggers for comparing them to a moron like you. At least one nigger in a hundred strives to be more than an agricultural tool, compared to you unironically taking pride in being a wageslave and coping by dreaming of the attractive women in white collar hands. +--- 58079168 +>>58079146 +>being a wageslave +>works in a cubicle +>has to change job every year because his last one got automated + +literally cope +--- 58079242 +>>58074727 +No they didn't. +https://web.archive.org/web/20190929090259/http://www.foaa.com.au/buy-back-statistics-and-australia-stock-of-firearms-compiled-in-1998/ +--- 58079479 +>>58079168 +>Manual worker thinking it's the white collar workers who will get replaced by automation + +Take your meds +--- 58079584 +>>58079479 +It actually is, although a huge portion of white collar work is fake job sinecures anyway so being redundant doesn't matter +--- 58079593 +>>58070774 (OP) +Not popular at all. We enjoy being a first world country. +--- 58079654 +>>58070860 +In our defense, Australia’s frontier is mostly just fucking desert. +Not good for anything except for farming camels apparently. + +>>58073077 +Man fuck you, I like Canberra. +Coffee is good and a 20 minute drive from city centre and I’m in a national park with nicely maintained hiking trails. It’s a larger country town with the benefits of a city. +It’s a university city so lots of authentic foreign food. And few turbo bogans. +And think of Sydney and Melbourne like the /pol/ and /pony/ boards. Those people have to go somewhere. besides all the politicians who are dickheads fly in from their home states, the canberra local ones are just chill. + +>Gun Control +I sold my guns years ago when it was a pain in the arse whilst moving and renting to find housemates that were cool with it and getting everything setup. +So left them with the parents until we all sat down and admitted we hadn’t shot them in 2 years and should probably give them to a home who would love and care for them better. +I do bow hunting now because I can just keep it in a garage and no one cares. + +I would’ve loved to keep my guns, but I’m glad we don’t have the same gun culture as the states. +We have too many dickheads as it is, and imagine if every rev-head wog or bogan was also packing? +Also working in Canberra you realise the government is more incompetent than it is sinisterly evil. It’s fucking Hanlon's Razor. +--- 58079696 +>>58071567 +>pain in the ass to get and own a gun here +Uhh, no it isn't. +Unless you're a loser who doesn't leave the house and going to the police station to ask for a form is a "pain in the ass" +--- 58079733 +>>58070774 (OP) +Nah. Australia is SUPER urbanized, fucking everyone lives in cities now, where guns are far less popular. The number of proper outback style Aussies is very low +There is no "rural" state in Australia, it's a handful of cities and a lot of nothing between them. +--- 58079936 +>>58079654 +> imagine if every rev-head wog or bogan was also packing +Self correcting issue + +>>58079696 +way to oust yourself as a nogunz faggot +--- 58081508 +>>58079733 +either dumb foreigner or city dwelling beta cuck no gunz, can't tell diff --git a/k/58070946.txt b/k/58070946.txt index cf4809f8b6c07b5643ff41196018e3b90808dc7a..bb3b13a9bcd4632f2065a53ea201eedb85bb93fb 100644 --- a/k/58070946.txt +++ b/k/58070946.txt @@ -4,3 +4,340 @@ Victory day parade in less than a week. >what russian equipment will we see >are we getting a drone false flag to start a nuclear war >will bakhmut finally be captured or were the russians losing ground this whole year +--- 58071000 +>>58070946 (OP) +They'll gather the last dozen or so T-90M tanks, split them into two groups, and then drive them one group at a time down the parade ground and then round the block out of sight, where they'll quickly paint new unit numbers on them and do it all over again. Over and over for half an hour. + +I'd also put good money on the chance of an aircraft experiencing mechanical failure and crashing on the way to or from the flypasts. Possibly even during the flypast itself, if we're really lucky. +--- 58071016 +>>58070946 (OP) +I know what they won't drive: The T-54/55s and T-62s they're actually using in Ukraine lol +--- 58071028 +>>58071000 +>Possibly even during the flypast itself, if we're really lucky. +That's horrible to think of anon, think of all the innocents there who could be hurt. +--- 58071100 +>>58071028 +>innocents +So it'll be a zero death toll plane crash in the middle of a major city, truly a miracle. God smiles upon Russia ))))) +--- 58071110 +>>58071000 +Parade planes are the only ones kept in good condition, they will most likely cancel the air parade tough +--- 58071155 +>>58070946 (OP) +Will there be a live stream? Last year Brits did it and it was good, I think it was the telegraph newspaper +--- 58071171 +>>58071028 +My heart aches for any kidnapped Ukrainian child caught in a russki plane crash. +--- 58071174 +I hope cia escalates by droning parade. +--- 58071180 +>>58071171 +Don't worry anon, most of those kids have already been sold into arab oil sheik harems and/or organ harvesting rings and are no longer in Russia as a result, so the chances of one dying in a Russian plane crash are really very low +--- 58071184 +>>58071174 +maybe we should give that whole "escalate to deescalate" thing a try, the Russians sure do seem to think highly of it +--- 58071189 +>>58071184 +Yea i think you should definitely do it, can you share my escalation thing to your coworkers. Let's get it done. +--- 58071197 +>>58071189 +I'll put it in the teams chat +do you mind if I refer to you as Anon #46127? They like us to be specific +--- 58071199 +>>58071197 +Sure thing +--- 58071206 +>>58071000 +>Possibly even during the flypast itself, if we're really lucky. +I wish a MIG-31 has an aileron jam, forcing it into a deep dive and flies full speed into the cathedral of St. Basil. +--- 58071215 +>>58071206 +>the pilot ejects at low altitude and his body plus ejection seat flies directly into Putin +>a drone interrupts the parade +>someone has done an IRA and several mortars explode without warning +>a soldier turns into a suicide bomber live on air +Which one do you want the most? +--- 58071226 +>>58071028 +These are the same people who watch videos of their soldiers raping children and pets to death in front of their families and cheer it on with glee. May a plane crash and may it be carrying a nuke. +--- 58071231 +>>58071215 +The first one. We’d post the gif for years +--- 58071234 +>>58071028 +stop baiting retard +--- 58071246 +>>58070946 (OP) +how did last years parade look like? +im pretty sure it was already poor and cringe. +--- 58071270 +>>58071246 +please understand.. air show has been cancelled due to poor weather.... small indie country please be understand.. +--- 58071279 +>parade due next week +>no rehearsal +--- 58071281 +>>58071270 +these are FAFO mega-clouds, they are super dangerous, they only target russian DNA, you know. +--- 58071283 +I want SVT40 to replace the SKS as a ceremonial rifle +--- 58071284 +>>58071226 +>These are the same people who watch videos of their soldiers raping children and pets to death in front of their families and cheer it on with glee. +If this is true I do NOT want the source, but did this actually happen? I know about the raping in front of family thing and I know about the taping it, but what? Pets? +--- 58071342 +>>58071000 +There won't be a fly past, they're too afraid (and rightly so) of saboteurs with MANPADS +--- 58071350 +>>58071000 +trips +--- 58071373 +>>58071206 +fuck, that would make armatard and dennis suffer a massive aneurysm. +--- 58071380 +>>58071284 +You think they would draw the line at pets? +--- 58071388 +Are Ukraine going to try and time a big push on victory day? +--- 58071440 +>>58071231 +Years? Centuries, at least. It would instantly be the most famous death of any politician ever, possibly the most famous death ever, even hitler braining himself couldn't compare. +--- 58071454 +>>58071388 +I think they are smarter than to put such stock in symbolism rather than what makes tactical and strategic sense +but there is a non-zero chance that it really will be one of the earliest days of the mud hardening up, so it might happen anyway, idk what the very recent weather has been like in Southern Ukraine. +--- 58071472 +>>58071388 +depends on the weather +--- 58071485 +>>58071454 +Still muddy, but almost no chance of rain for the next week +--- 58071494 +>>58071028 +>Russians +>innocent +--- 58071682 +>>58071485 +I want to believe +It's happening on may 9th, I just know it +--- 58071708 +>>58071270 +Imagine that being the architectural pride and joy of your """"culture""". +--- 58071717 +>>58071000 +>air show +Cancelled due to bad weather. No, I didn’t look at the forecast +--- 58071725 +>>58071717 +Ah, like last year then. +--- 58071733 +>>58071215 +>>someone has done an IRA and several mortars explode without warning + +This one would be kino. It would show that special forces can operate in Moscow and do some real damage. The IRA came really close to killing a large percentage of the British rulers +--- 58071772 +>>58071388 +>>58071454 +>>58071682 +For maximum political value it would make sense to start it before victory day. If you start it on the same day putin can just make whatever speech he was planning on making because most people won’t really know how it’s going yet anyway. If you start a couple days before then he is forced to either publicly acknowledge the situation, or publicly avoid talking about it. +--- 58071777 +It'll be all WW2 equipment because they'll keep pushing the le Patriotic War 2.0 angle. +--- 58071795 +>>58071708 +It was build by an Italian. +--- 58071822 +>Victory Day never came. +>Every morning I wake up expecting it to come, but it is always two more weeks away. +>That can't be it. +>Do you get it now? You do, don't you? +>Victory Day... never... came. +--- 58071880 +>>58070946 (OP) +As much as I'd like to see a my little drony crashing into an armata and revealing what lies below the cardboard shell the reality is that nothing will happen, security will be very tight and Pussian partisans won't risk getting caught. +--- 58071903 +>>58071180 +grim but probably true +--- 58071915 +>>58071388 +Yes, because at their core they are still slavs. They care just as much about symbolism as Russians. They will try and steal the show, ridicule Moscow and try to appease their Western masters because they know the endless stream of free gibs will stop if they don't succeed. This is a reminder that Ukraine would fall in weeks if Western aid would stop. + +>inb4 vatnik +>inb4 your army is a joke +>inb4 brown hands typed this post + +I don't care, hohols can lose and disappear completely for all I care. Russia can have Ukraine, I don't give a shit about eastern euros still crying about their trauma about muh Soviet occupation. Let Belarus Moldova and Ukraine be the buffer zone, they're barren wastelands with zero to offer other than whores. Let's just heavily militarize the border all the way from Finland al the way to Romania and call it a day. I'm tired of this shit. +--- 58071927 +>>58071388 +Ukraine mainly concern themselves with practicalities and not symbolism, but at the least they might do more drone strikes on that day, maybe also HIMARS strikes, just to blacken the pidors' eyes some more +--- 58071933 +>>58071915 +If you don't care so much why do you keep posting about how much you don't care on a literal regular fucking basis faggot? A sensible person would stop screeching like some old man or lady about em kids on their lawn and find something else to do than whine all the time like you are. +--- 58071952 +>>58071915 +Realists deserve the fucking rope. +--- 58071954 +>>58071915 +>I don't care +>but I can't stop whining about it. +If you are a westerner or even american, then you're just an idiot butthurt about your petty causes not being the center of attention. +Literal Karen behaviour. Good luck asking for the manager of /k/ +--- 58071960 +>>58071952 +>Realists +I hate that these faggots use that name when they're just amoral sell outs and grifters. They're not "realists" at all. +--- 58072003 +>>58071915 +How's the AIDS going for you? +--- 58072088 +ERA covered Lada 1200's +--- 58072119 +>>58071284 +Early during the war, Ukrainians found the remnants of mutilated dogs, vatniks nailed their pawns. +--- 58073096 +>>58071915 +Much obliged +--- 58073322 +>>58073309 +Oh, you are having me on. No way. +--- 58073558 +>>58071915 +>try to appease their Western masters +Western master here, the Ukrainians can do whatever they want. + ▲ +▲ ▲ +--- 58074234 +>>58071708 +It looks pretty nice. +--- 58074332 +>>58073309 +What even are these? +--- 58074393 +>>58071772 +politics doesn't matter much when you're stuck in a trench in Bakhmut and the 7th wave of Wagner mobiks is approaching +--- 58074505 +>>58073309 +Is this photoshopped? I can't tell anymore +--- 58074523 +>>58074332 +It's a photoshop. But to answer the real question, those were first generation cope cages meant to disrupt Javelin/NLAW top-attack capability. It doesn't work, even conceptually, but the Russian MOD had them put on as a morale booster. +--- 58074577 +The parade will go on as normal because the same units are used for it each year. +I suspect the Ukrainians will launch their offensives a day or two before. Not using the holiday itself and giving Putin an extra talking point. +--- 58074584 +>>58070946 (OP) +--- 58074599 +>>58071028 +There's not going to be any civvies there. Usually civilians carry photos of their ancestors who served or died in battle, and kremlin is worried that this year they will have photos of the guys who died in Ukraine and they don't want that +--- 58074636 +>>58074584 +India, good friend Russia, represent well +--- 58074640 +>>58071708 +It's pretty alright, just like St. Pete's historic centre +Mind you, both were built by actual europeans +--- 58074678 +>>58073558 +Glowniggers can't triforce. +--- 58074944 +>>58070946 (OP) +>to start a nuclear war +With fucking what, you stupid bitch? Fuck off back to vkontakte, subhuman. +--- 58074955 +>>58071155 +Can't miss the biggest gay parade of the year. +--- 58074967 +>>58071708 +This is just irrational hate by association. It's a beautiful church. +--- 58074973 +>>58071215 +Dark Brandon parachutes in and shoots Putin in the head with a 1911, then orders the parade to continue. They comply. +--- 58074980 +>>58071708 +It's a beautiful building, what's hard to believe is that it was built by those subhumans. +--- 58074985 +>>58074505 +Of course not. What are you, a vatnik? +--- 58075003 +>>58071708 +It does look like a circus tent, desu +--- 58075025 +>>58071028 +dont tempt me.even the thought makes me hard.TRD cant come soon enough. +--- 58075053 +>>58071952 +>Realist +>just let vatnikstan expand, what's the worst that could happen, right? +>not completely humiliating them, turning their shithole into a balkanized shithole chink vassal state, which is their natural state. +I don't think you know what that word means. +--- 58075061 +>>58071772 +I think the early morning of victory day would be the sweet spot. +So the news is spreading while the (((people))) are preparing for the festivities. +--- 58075164 +>>58071279 +>no rehearsal +They didn't rehearse for their war, why would they rehearse for the victory parade? +--- 58075198 +>>58071822 +9/10 +> this isnt about the future..we fighting for the past +>banans..I want to give them to you.... +--- 58075292 +>Niggerwhipper 5000 crashed through a wall and goes HAM on the high ranking military +>Then turns it lashes of justice against the bystanders +--- 58075688 +>>58070946 (OP) +i wonder if they'll parade some "liberated" children again? +--- 58076203 +>>58074332 +what you get when you order a Rolls-Royce off wish.com +--- 58077070 +>>58071915 +Yeah...But why are you brown though? +--- 58077182 +>>58071028 +>That's horrible to think of anon, think of all the innocents there who could be hurt. +Unfortunately, I'm a sadist and find such thoughts arousing. +--- 58077206 +>Victory day parade +soon™ +--- 58077242 +>>58070946 (OP) +I need to celebrate it in a different way if something spectacular happens. +Just imagine the meltdown +--- 58077373 +Russia so stronk it's reduced to attempted flag theft. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N3-eY3ljTE [Embed] +--- 58078731 +>>58071373 +>armatard and dennis +armatard/dennis +--- 58080427 +>>58077242 +Wont you be busy getting raped and beaten by russian chimpout like every may 9th? +--- 58081191 +>>58071028 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 +--- 58081353 +>>58070946 (OP) +>what russian equipment will we see +I think there have been leaks/confirmation that it's mostly T-34 and some artillery peaces +>will bakhmut finally be captured +I have a sneaking suspicion they'll say it is, no matter what the reality on the ground may be +>are we getting a drone false flag to start a nuclear war +This meme needs to die already. If Russia wanted to us nukes they had a million excuses in the past. Using nukes has a very high political cost, they decided to pay the cost of mobilization instead (and are seemingly preparing to do so again) so unless things on the ground change dramatically I don't see Russian nukes anytime soon +--- 58081359 +>>58071708 +What the hell is your problem mate? Eastern European Churches look fucking cool +--- 58081378 +>>58071279 +>>58075164 +Is it going to be a reverse of February 24th then? +>we were stationed in Bakhmut nobody expected to go home +>they told us not to worry, tomorrow would be just another day of frontal assaults on yet another building complex +>at night they loaded us on trucks, nobody knew where we were going, probably another assault somewhere else +>only when I saw the sign saying Moscow it started to dawn on me +>they unloaded us on the Red Square and told us to march +>we were expecting to be greeted by bombs and shells, but got hugs and flowers instead diff --git a/k/58071348.txt b/k/58071348.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7df59fb8e87289c0a3006edce63ea2311499dc74 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58071348.txt @@ -0,0 +1,167 @@ +----- +--- 58071348 +Is this worth it? +--- 58071353 +>two magazines +what form of power is this +--- 58071365 +>>58071353 +can't call it a vfg +--- 58071371 +>>58071348 (OP) +Just buy an SMG +Pros : +- doesn't look gay +- better in every single way +Cons : +- tad more vbucks +--- 58071385 +wot can u like switch between the magos or something +then woweee you get 2 different types of ammo to have at same time otherwise it’s 2 things to fuck around with on reload instead of just 1 magazine, which is annoying +looks kinda 90s in a bad way also +--- 58071430 +>>58071353 +>you see Ivan, when using two mags you fire two bullet, since back bullet pushes front bullet +--- 58071435 +Wit da switch +--- 58071596 +>>58071353 +looks like a sort of ingenious mag holder that works as a grip +--- 58071603 +>>58071596 +Actually never the fuck mind, how would you even comfortably hold that? +--- 58071614 +>>58071603 +Super fast reloads +--- 58072094 +>>58071371 +Does it really though?to have what's in OPs pic, you are just shy of $1000 dollars (give or take within reason) and there's quite a few offerings for 9mm sub guns in that range or better. +--- 58072107 +>>58071353 +2 springs + +>lmao 2 spring! +--- 58072149 +Want one for a shoulder dangle kinda rig +--- 58072248 +>>58071371 +No point in buying a smg when its just semi-auto anyways +--- 58072263 +>>58071385 +You are trolling right? +--- 58072474 +>>58072248 +Fun and cheap and quiet, but yes +--- 58072494 +>>58071348 (OP) +No, the B&T is far superior, in that configuration the 320 in knows for breaking ejectors, and you need to buy an aftermarket trigger component so it doesn't fire OOB +--- 58072500 +>>58071371 +a semi auto submachine gun isn't a submachine gun, anon. its just a sub. +--- 58072539 +>>58072248 +Better suppressability (unless you're using rifle cartridges that perform like pistol cartridges anyway) +Physically smaller guns (unless you're using rifle cartridges that perform like pistol cartridges anyway) +Physically smaller magazines +--- 58073060 +micro PP energy +--- 58073083 +>>58071348 (OP) +Wait for them to make the heavy version for the Xten. It's kind of a waste to buy the M17 zogbot LARP pistol and put all that meme shit on it unless you want a P320 with a safety for some reason. :^) +--- 58073475 +>>58071371 +Flux is smaller and more compact than an SMG. And you can have a based .357 sig or or 10mm setup that is the ideal backpack gun and greatly boosts the range and effectiveness of a regular handgun. If you want a larger sub gun then there is no reason to not have a suppressed .300blk rifle with a collapsible stock and an 8 inch barrel, which ends up being more compact, much more energetic, and still very quiet when compared with MP5 or other more modern smg's. +--- 58073609 +This dude did a good break down of the value the Flux offers. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqMb0aIBqHk&ab_channel=BrassFacts [Embed] +--- 58073645 +>>58073609 +Is that someone who actually uses his guns AND is reasonable about boogshit? This mans logic and reason is obviously paid shilling and because I barely shoot I must hate him for being better than me. +-every sub low IQ /k/tard +--- 58073697 +>>58071348 (OP) +No Rolando, +no one cares that you spent your paycheck on some stupid Sig trash mod. +--- 58074257 +I think the B&T TP9 fills the same (so small its almost nonexistent) role better. +--- 58074938 +I dont get the pdw chasis hype, you greatly increase size and weight for marginal stability benefits. Every one I've fired has had a terrible length of pull, nonexistent check weld, and wobbles. + +Just get better with your pistol or carry an lw ar. I can hit a steel silhouette at 300 yards, I believe that you probably can too. +--- 58074943 +Why is everyone obsessed with the raider when the glock kit is way smaller and lighter? +--- 58075151 +>>58074938 +Man I can't even SEE a steel silhouette at 300 yards without magnification +--- 58075207 +>>58071603 +really comfortable to hold, Was at a gunshow where a guy has a similar product and the angled magazine holder is actually pretty comfy. +--- 58075425 +>>58074943 +320 FCU system allows the sight to be mounted more securely, keep zero better, not flex as much, etc by replacing the lower completely. +--- 58075470 +>>58075425 +Yeah thats cool and all but slide mounted dots have worked just fine for decades. +--- 58075533 +>>58075470 +also has a cool magazine change mechanic, where you can either drop a single mag or both at the same time to go fast +--- 58075589 +>>58075533 +That's pretty neat! But you can do that with the flashmag by just grabbing the spare. +--- 58075655 +>>58075470 +No, they've been workable and better than nothing for decades. They've never been just fine. +--- 58075704 +>>58075470 +slide mounted dots are a toss up as to whether they live past like 5k rounds fired. +Electronics weren't really meant to sustain that many Gs for so many repetitions. +I'm waiting for something like the Laugo alien style of weapon with fixed top uppers but moving sides to become more common. +--- 58075967 +>>58075655 +Damn that's crazy you better go tell the entire competitive scene real quick before it's too late!! +--- 58075985 +>>58071348 (OP) +As a class of weapon they're in the "overpriced toy" category. I could maybe see an argument to be made for a bedside gun if you've got reason to not want a rifle or shotgun. +Nice to have some sort of chassis thing in the range kit for shits and goggles though. +--- 58076008 +>>58075985 +*i +--- 58076306 +>>58075967 +They already know. +--- 58077391 +I was thinking of buying a second cheap P320 just for the FCU so I could get one of these +But all together with an optic and light is like $1500 +I feel like I could get a better can for that price +--- 58078476 +>>58071348 (OP) +>we've made the perfect solution for a PDW, using an existing pistol "platform" +>limited run! random drops! exclusively sent out to instafag influencers! +--- 58078526 +>>58078476 +And with the brace ban it's basically just a fancy oversized pistol now because they can't even come with the brace. +--- 58078542 +>>58071371 +>- doesn't look gay +wrong +--- 58078654 +>>58075533 +Yeah, that's a pretty neat gimmick +>grab front mag with left hand +>push catch with thumb +>remove mag +>rear mag has already fallen free +>insert mag +It's a neat system, but of course the problem is your right hand is sitting right there on the pistol grip doing nothing the whole time, so you could just as easily have pushed the rear mag catch with your right thumb at any point during the process. +--- 58079649 +>>58073645 +kys brassfags +--- 58080657 +>>58071348 (OP) +that's an assault rifle +--- 58080771 +>>58071365 +If that’s actually how it works, that’s really clever. +--- 58081515 +>>58074943 +Yeh, i like the original better too, i don't think they even make it anymore though. i just kinda think the raider is bulky and ugly as shit, but the old one is kinda flawed in that i believe you can cause malfunctions by holding the 'not a grip' too hard, and most people hate the 'not a stock' (not that the new one is much better) diff --git a/k/58071511.txt b/k/58071511.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..58c168dd77714ad79ce47dcb397dc88a035f9cea --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58071511.txt @@ -0,0 +1,173 @@ +----- +--- 58071511 +Which personality is the best for soldiers and generals? +--- 58071544 +>using a shit test that gives different results over a period of time. +Okay senpai +--- 58071628 +>>58071511 (OP) +Surely, mine +--- 58071695 +Probably INFP, because they're tedious actual retards and everybody would be better off if they were getting shot or vaporized by IEDs. +--- 58071760 +>>58071544 +yeah, it's not perfect +the main flaw is that trait distribution generally follows gaussian distribution, which means most people are somewhere in the middle of all the 4 trait dichotomies and don't have strong personality quirks either way +Say, one day you score 51% introversion score because you have been busy and not going out, another day you score 49% +--- 58071788 +>>58071511 (OP) +probably the one in the armyman outfit or the knight armor +but in the new woke military (liberals!) probably the one on the bottom right LOL!!! +--- 58071814 +Whichever type is the polar opposite of the most common type in Russia. +--- 58071818 +>>58071544 +>test that gives different results over a period of time. +Personality should change with wisdom and life experience as you learn to react differently to people and situations. +--- 58071835 +>>58071818 +This from experience + +t. used to be a complete retard (INFP) but learnt to think logically and am now just an empathy-barren mess (INTP) +--- 58071853 +>>58071511 (OP) +ISTJ and ESTJ are perfect soldiers. ISTP and ESTP are mercenaries. INFJ and ENFJ are war mascot. ENTJ and INTJ as commanders. ESFJ and ISFJ as medics. ENTP and INTP as most likely to rebel. ESFP and ISFP are most likely to get traumatized ENFP and INFP are most likely to be remembered by enemies as the person who gave them cigarettes +--- 58071870 +>general staff +INTJ +ISTJ +>NCOs +ENTJ +ESTJ +>common soldiers +ESTP +--- 58071878 +>>58071853 +OuKi is ENTP, and most decent Generals are extroverts. Faggot desk jockeys and Air Force "Generals" are introverts. +--- 58071928 +>>58071511 (OP) +You don't actually take this shit seriously do you? You know it's all baseless pseudoscience right? It's for picking up bitches on tinder, similar to horoscopes. There are thousands of genes and unquantifiable numbers of environmental factors that determine personality. Believing in personality types is a sign of mental weakness. +--- 58071971 +>>58071878 +Prospering personality is bad to serve as part of chain of command. Such personality can make top leader, but they would not steadily tow the line as generals for the leader. "Rules are made to be broken" and they are first to consider coup to change their command if things go bad. +--- 58071986 +>>58071928 +Shit works m8. I checked all my lifelong childhood friends (made them long before I knew about personality types). They fit personality compatibility perfectly. +--- 58072337 +>>58071878 +>most decent Generals are extroverts +yeah and the ones better than just "decent" were introverts +acting on emotions is the last thing you want from a general (or any soldier for that matter) +I mean you don't want a dull, emotionless commander either, but the best commanders were not boisterous party animals +>>58071928 +it just labels traits people already observe on themselves +it doesn't predict your personality by date of birth +--- 58072439 +>>58071835 +I am considered knowledgeable but still always score INFP. And I am definitely introverted and nothing is going to change that in the foreseeable future. I just suffer the "I hope this person likes me and will do whatever it takes for that person to like me"-syndrome and end up with no strong opinions whatsoever. +--- 58072549 +>>58071986 +100 iq comment +--- 58072568 +>>58071511 (OP) +>INFP +Meyers Briggs is crap: +https://www.vox.com/2014/7/15/5881947/myers-briggs-personality-test-meaningless +(yeah, it's vox, but there are lots of useful sources linked in the piece) +--- 58072627 +>>58072568 +>Several analyses have shown the test is totally ineffective at predicting people's success in various jobs +Let me guess. They forgot to include IQ into their analysis. + +I found it is most useful to predict compatibility of people working in small face to face teams. You put "red" incompatible people into one room and you will get cat and dog quarell and no job done. And if you check "randomly naturally" assembled teams that successfully work for a long time together you find them having good or perfect match. +--- 58072685 +Isn't this test just to see who gets a Green Lantern ring? +--- 58072792 +>>58071511 (OP) +What the fuck is this? +--- 58072810 +INFJ brotherhood reporting in +--- 58072823 +>>58072337 +You literally can't be a great captain of men if you're an introvert. Every legendary battlefield commander has been an extrovert. +I'll grant that great strategists such as Koumei might have been introverts. +And of course the average socially-maladjusted Air Force dweeb is an introvert. But that's another matter entirely. +ENTP is the ideal combination of traits for a great general of the heavens. +--- 58072830 +>>58071511 (OP) +ISTJ and it's not even close +--- 58072847 +>>t. used to be a complete retard (INFP) but learnt to think logically and am now just an empathy-barren mess (INTP) + +A) Your still a retard +B) I doubt you ever were INFP because only few % in males are and most people are wrong. + +The 16personality test is fucking garbage. If you want to know your type you have to learn about the functions. + +btw. INFPs and INTPs have almost the same intelligence and INFPs are very calm and not emotional on the outside. Look at Keanu for example. What people think how INFPs behave is how ENFPs behave. +--- 58072856 +>4channel drones believe this normie horoscope nonsense +oh how this website has fallen +--- 58072860 +>>58071511 (OP) +>meyers-briggs +Omg, these are so fun! I'm an aquarius ;P +--- 58072877 +>>58072860 +The Y2K aesthetic was when the western world peaked. +--- 58072896 +>>58071511 (OP) +The only reason MBTI is popular is because its free. The good personality tests with data backing them up cost money to use so everyone settles for the pop science facebook personality quiz. + +Deep down they all know personality tests are actually stupid bullshit everyone lies on and its not worth spending a cent on this stupid shit. +--- 58072901 +>>58072847 +>Your +>calls other people retards + +Besides, I never said I wasn't a retard, just not a complete one. Learn to read. +--- 58072979 +>>58071511 (OP) +Unironically astrology has more merit than this shit +--- 58073002 +>feel good reddit horoscope +what the fuck anon? you know this barely scratches the surface of how complex personality is, right? +most niggers who do this test do it on that god awful site that tells you a bunch of cute, vague things about yourself and you can go "waow, this is so me!!1!1!!1" +--- 58073090 +>>58071511 (OP) +clearly ENFJ as he is the only one with a weapon +--- 58073196 +>>58072877 +>>58072860 +Come pick up your y2k teen fashion waifu. +--- 58073436 +>>58071544 +I've gotten the same result every time I've taken it, and I've done it once or twice a year for more than ten years. +--- 58073454 +>>58072860 +i am cancer +--- 58073466 +>>58071511 (OP) +>which astrological sign is best for soldiers and generals +A lobotomy could do you no harm OP. +--- 58073474 +>>58071511 (OP) +Deeply flawed test. +--- 58073970 +>>58073196 +>sagittarius +kek +--- 58077429 +Why are people so buttmad over a test? Lmao +--- 58077876 +>>58071511 (OP) +>believing in choose your own astrology +kek +--- 58080690 +>>58071760 +Its main flaw is that it was invented by a woman(first red flag) who was a Carl Jung fanatic(second red flag) and a violent racist who wrote a horror storyu about a white family who was found to have "a single drop of adrican blood"(thrid red flag). And that's just the tip of the iceberg on how fucking insane Isabel Briggs Meyers was. +--- 58080700 +>>58080690 +>storyu +>adrican +FML but you get my point. diff --git a/k/58071592.txt b/k/58071592.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6e823ad1381347bb93a7d5aa3b7bcfe2cb50977d --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58071592.txt @@ -0,0 +1,153 @@ +----- +--- 58071592 +Which tanks fight better in snow? Leopard or Abrams? +--- 58071701 +this ninja warrior shit is so fucking infantile, i sometimes dont know whether i'm ok /k/ or the call of duty forums +--- 58071705 +>>58071592 (OP) +My dude it is fucking May +--- 58071707 +Finns use Leopards, I guess they work better than Abrams +--- 58071727 +>>58071592 (OP) + +it doesn't matter. All western Tanks outperform the russian shit. + +They will always be better at everything. The minimal differences between western tanks don't matter a little bit when they blow russian trash into the orbit, since they will always fight shoulder to shoulder against their enemys. +--- 58071734 +>>58071592 (OP) +no, its not +--- 58071741 +>>58071701 +Abrams have the power, but leopards have speed and agility. if i had to bet, I got money on the leopard swooping in and landing a big banger head on +--- 58071750 +>>58071592 (OP) +>Winter is coming +So you live in the south hemisphere, kek +--- 58071754 +>>58071741 +And where is Challenger 2 or LeClerc in this hypothetical competition? +--- 58071757 +>>58071592 (OP) +>Winter is coming +Nigger are you from New Zealand or something? It isn't even fucken summer yet. +--- 58072056 +>>58071592 (OP) +>he doesn't know about snow leopards +--- 58072223 +>>58071701 +>THIS SUMMER +>THE WORLDS DEADLIEST TANK +>against... THE WORLDS DEADLIEST TANK +>in a competition full of weird ass hypotheticals, but devoid of any real informed input +>we put TWO TONKS +>in a POOL full of SCORPIONS +>after FLOODING them with HOT SAUCE +>and replaced their main guns WITH PLASTIC SWORDS +>in an UNDERWATER +>TANK +>JOUSTING COMPETITION +>in a BURNING DUCK BROTHEL +>on THE MOON + +really it's never like "oh so basically we have no idea about either tank/soldier/gun/armor's capabilities and most of the time victory and defeat hinge on the most random shit like a soldier not paying attention or a dead rabbit getting stuck in the optics so the real answer is that nobody fucking knows", it's always this dumb ass clickbait shit full of variables that make zero sense in situations that are even dumber + +>who would in in a zombie apocalypse, 10 navy seals who have type 2 diabetes or 10 spetznatz who are allergic to cucumbers and squirrels +like nigga what the fuck is this competition even, how often does this shit happen irl +--- 58072238 +>>58071741 +I always thought they had the same gun +--- 58072448 +>>58071592 (OP) +Leos are better suited for winter warfare, but they're not as good as their Swedish modification (Stridsvagn) +--- 58072465 +>>58072223 +Tank jousting sounds awesome +--- 58072641 +>>58072465 +More fun that horse jousting for sure +--- 58073013 +>>58071705 +Winter is still coming (in 6 months) +--- 58073421 +>>58072238 +ENGINE power. +--- 58074238 +>>58072448 +Just curious, what are the differences? +--- 58075170 +>>58071705 +>he doesn't know +--- 58075532 +Nothing can beat T-90 in this +--- 58075684 +>>58073013 +Not really. It's not going to be a "real" winter in Ukraine until January at least. So that's almost 8 months from now. +--- 58075717 +>>58075532 +Yeah the t90 is totally unstoppable, luckily ukraine captured a whole bunch of them so the counteroffensive will certianly succeed +--- 58075740 +>>58075170 +I wonder if russkies are going to push "they're going to freeze!" this winter. +--- 58075873 +>>58072238 +Same gun but in reality Tungsten can't match the penetration or after armor effect of depleted uranium. +--- 58075885 +>>58075740 +yes, they will. +ukrainians were "freezing" every winter since orange revolution (with a short break during yanukovich cadence) +--- 58075899 +>>58071592 (OP) +Will Abrams even be in Ukraine by winter? +--- 58075980 +>>58074238 +None that are relevant for arctic warfare. +Compared to A5 +>Add-on Armor +>Upgraded C2 system +>Upgraded FCS +>Improved suspension for the added weight +>+ some minor things +Most Leopard platforms are rather old and are upgraded as time goes on, the upgrade packages are modular and are either exchangable or build on top of each other so to speak, the Stridsvagn is an upgrade to the A5. +The A6 has the improved L/55 cannon, the Stridsvagn doesn't afaik but they are "upgrade-ready" to accept the longer gun. +--- 58076070 +>>58071705 +>it is fucking May +˙ɹǝʞuɐM ǝıssn∀ ɐ s,ǝH 'uou∀ ǝɔıN ǝᙠ +--- 58076389 +>>58075873 +depends on velocity. +--- 58076713 +>>58071592 (OP) +abrams does well on snow but it needs almost twice as much gas as the leopard 2. +--- 58076809 +>>58075170 +--- 58080024 +>>58071592 (OP) +Leopards, but not to a degree that you'd have to worry about using an Abrams in any meaningful way if your country has the logistics to use them in the first place. +--- 58080064 +>>58072238 +>>58075873 +Don't newer Leos have the longer version? Did the Abrams ever get that upgrade? +--- 58080127 +Abrams is probably better, but it really depends. If its the Sep V3 with the AMP and M829A4, then yeah no contest, the Abrams wins 9 outta 10 times. +--- 58080146 +Abrams +--- 58080604 +>>58071727 +do amerimutts really believe this? +--- 58080626 +>>58071592 (OP) +I have a better question: Summer is coming so which tank has the best A/C? Do russian tanks even have good enough ventilation to keep from cooking the crew on a hot day? +--- 58080673 +>>58076389 +Eh, kinda. Tungsten only outperforms DU at extreme velocities like 2000 m/s but you could just make a longer DU penetrator which while slower will have a greater penetration than the faster tungsten projectile (penetration is mostly a matter of density, projectile length, and velocity). The US uses slow (1500ish m/s) projectiles with really long penetrators allowing them to outperform German ammunition fired from the L/55. +--- 58080682 +>>58080626 +Russian tanks can cook crews in any weather. +--- 58080712 +>>58080682 +What was that tank who's heater was so anemic the driver would get frostbite? +--- 58080967 +>>58072223 +Hysterical post diff --git a/k/58071599.txt b/k/58071599.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..aa982155be03f1625b5efb5de22d498fe5f78822 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58071599.txt @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +----- +--- 58071599 +So which one would actually be a better choice for home defense? + +Pros of Scorpion +>20 round mag +>Has a "stock" +>Accurate + +Cons of Scorpion +>.32 ACP vs 9x19 +>Harder, but not impossible to mount red dot and a light +--- 58071607 +>>58071599 (OP) +>Harder, but not impossible to mount red dot and a light +Post link to buy +--- 58071621 +>>58071599 (OP) +Why not get an MPA Mac clone? +--- 58071649 +>>58071621 +Gotta get a used one in that case. MPA just makes 2011s and competition bolt-guns now. +--- 58071669 +>>58071599 (OP) +I would take a Scorpion as my EDC any day of the week as long as it's an NFA one with a fun switch +--- 58071847 +>>58071607 +There are different options but they are in Europe. +--- 58071976 +>>58071847 +So unobtanium in USA. +--- 58072063 +>>58071607 +>>58071976 +Unless have a fixed stock, none of the mounts will be suitable if it's SBR wire folder. +--- 58072191 +>>58071976 +https://islemfg.com/vz-61-optic-mount/ +This looks better than anything we have available in Europe. +--- 58072246 +>>58072191 +Have to use a side folding or fixed stock with it. Looks gay. +--- 58072399 +>.32acp + +it's the cost. +--- 58072432 +>>58071649 +Are you sure about that +--- 58072447 +>>58071599 (OP) +alternatively you could just get a vz61 chambered in 9mm +--- 58072521 +>>58072447 +There are some made by CSA in .380 ACP and 9x18 but the original is much better in terms of recoil, it's like norecoil cheats. + +>>58072399 +--- 58072586 +The US civi models don't have the wire stock, you would have to legally and lawfully do nothing to add a wire to it +--- 58072613 +>>58072586 +That's just nonsense. + +>>58072399 +Which is a fucking shame, .32 ACP is the ultimate plinking round. +--- 58073006 +>>58071599 (OP) +7,65Br. is ideal as Shower gun +--- 58073056 +>>58071599 (OP) +I like my vz. 61, but it's really just a range toy without the fun switch. If you're in the US, the only ammo we can buy here that are hot enough to cycle the action are S&B and PPU. +--- 58074242 +>>58073006 +That's a very nice shower man. +--- 58075192 +>>58074242 +Want to come over and check it out? +--- 58075313 +>>58071599 (OP) +They could've made the Evo II (a Scorpion in 9x19) but no. They canned the fucking beauty and slathered the project with the Evo 3 +--- 58075616 +>>58073006 +What's the other, red "gun"? +--- 58076514 +>>58074242 +Thank you Anon + +>>58075616 +Medium Mundir the Wolf from NeoTori +--- 58076578 +>>58071599 (OP) +Tec-9 or any equivalent clone like a Kimel AP-9. + +9mm pistol with Scorpion format. +--- 58077647 +>>58071599 (OP) +If this bitch was select fire, I'd say get that. +--- 58081014 +anybody with a skorp and a micrometer want to contribute me a dimension? +the length of the magwell. i lined the edges of my two ideal surfaces in pic related. +--- 58081023 +>>58081014 +pic related is the printable i'm working on that your dimension will be put toward +--- 58081103 +the stock wooberdoober is successfully duplicated +--- 58081731 +>>58081014 +Buy a homeless person food. Pay it forward. +--- 58081780 +>>58081731 +Anon, I am the homeless person needing food... +--- 58081820 +>>58081780 +Fatherless response anon diff --git a/k/58071793.txt b/k/58071793.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..af04d0b94ee1f310cdff38c81afd13925af21686 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58071793.txt @@ -0,0 +1,130 @@ +----- +--- 58071793 +I can't decide between a Glock 19 and a 43X. Can /k/ help me decide? +--- 58071855 +it will make no meaningful difference in your life +--- 58071859 +And something to add. I'm leaning more toward the 43X, and just using an extended magazine whenever I'm at home or wearing clothes it can be more easily concealed. But, I'm also drawn to the 19 because it can do everything without me having to think about it any, or having to worry about swapping out magazines. It's a really hard choice for me. And I don't have the money to buy both. +--- 58071863 +>>58071793 (OP) +Beretta Px4 +--- 58071883 +>>58071793 (OP) +43x is the superior carry with the s15 mags. not capacity difference than the 19, and theyre really comfy. +--- 58071885 +go to the gun store and hold both and decide for yourself. +the difference is marginal. +--- 58071921 +It's the same gun, get whatever is cheaper. +--- 58071945 +>>58071793 (OP) +Glock 19 as it's better #1. Also the clipazine is interchangeable with the 26 and 17 as are some of the parts. You get larger capacity and ability to drop in the 33 round BBClipazine. For me the Glock 19 just seems to fit perfectly. Not too big, not too small. I also own a regular G43 that I keep as small and compact as possible for max covertness. +--- 58072030 +>>58071883 +Is there any critical issues with the s15 magazines? +--- 58072219 +>>58071883 + +whats the story with these? are these steel magazines similar to the 365? +--- 58072328 +>>58071793 (OP) +Glonk 19/45. +Get you that competition magwell action +--- 58072345 +Personally I carry a gen 5 19. It fits my hands better than the 43x. I can't get the grip down on the 43. I'm not a huge guy by any means but have no issue concealing it. +--- 58072352 +>>58071793 (OP) +All the choices of handguns in the world and you box yourself into getting a Glawk brand Glawk lmao +--- 58072365 +19 and a 43 if you’re looking for the most based combo +--- 58072409 +>>58071859 +Keep in mind that the 19 is significantly fatter. You're going to feel it a lot more during a long day than its skinny cousin if you're concealing. Comfort can make the difference between a safe queen and an EDC. +--- 58072411 +>>58071793 (OP) +G48 +--- 58072444 +>>58071793 (OP) +Beretta APX +--- 58072472 +>>58071793 (OP) +Everyone should have a 19, if nothing else as a baseline and backup +--- 58072483 +Get an HK P30 or P30S. Call it a day, the gun will likely outlive you. +--- 58072590 +>>58072411 +/thread + +G19 is too THICC +G43 is too short +G48 is JUUUUST right +--- 58073037 +>>58071793 (OP) +Why do they both look so dusty? +--- 58073355 +>>58072483 +Yeah when you get killed because it jammed kekw +--- 58073420 +>>58071859 +Do you larp? If you have gear in which would would overtly carry a pistol then a 19x would be better. If it's strictly concealed carry then the 43x is better +--- 58074809 +43X is literally designed for baby hands and fat guys who can't hide a real gun. +--- 58075351 +>>58072590 +I hadn't heard of the G48. Okay, I'm thinking about this one too. +--- 58075373 +>>58071793 (OP) +17L +--- 58075434 +>>58075351 +It's long enough that you don't feel like every shot is throwing your barrel up by an inch, and narrow enough that it's comfortably concealable. + +Also personally great for me since I live in a state with a 10+1 capacity limit for handguns anyway so the G48 being 10+1 by default is just right for me. +--- 58075512 +>>58075434 +I was looking up the G48, and the only difference between the G48 and the G43X is the slide. So the G48 is just a .5 in longer slide. + +The good thing about this is, I can just buy a G43X and then buy a G48 slide and swap them out whenever I want more concealability or something that shoots better. + +I think this is the best choice. Buying either the 43X or the 48 and then buying an extra slide to convert to the other when needed. +--- 58075605 +>>58075512 +It's 0.76" + +Barrel length on G43x is 3.41" (87mm) G48 is 4.17" (106mm) + +And slide length is slightly longer still at ~0.79" difference between the two (154mm vs 174mm) + + +I personally just didn't like how snappy the G43 was when I shot it and have always preferred the barrel length the G48 offers as it's just a bit more controllable in my hands so I never even considered swapping between the two, though I have seen some youtube videos on it. +--- 58075780 +>>58072030 +>>58072219 +As long as you get the metal mag release with it, works flawlessly. Only downside is the normie 10 rounds get stuck sometimes but who cares. +--- 58075860 +>>58071793 (OP) +G19, then G47, then G43X. Then threaded barrel for all. +--- 58077111 +>>58071793 (OP) +Just get a 19. Speaking from personal experience, I found the G48 didn’t conceal any better than my G23. G19 has cheaper mags and more aftermarket support. +Now if Glock got their heads out of their asses and started producing 15 rounders so that we don’t gotta buy overpriced S15 mags to make the 48/43x practical, then my opinion would maybe be different. +--- 58077175 +>>58077111 +Gen 3 G19 maybe, Gen 5 G19 no. + +Gen 3 is 1.26" wide, Gen 5 is 1.34" wide + +G48 is 1.10" wide. +G23 is 1.26" wide + + +Gen 5 G19 is noticeably thiccer. +--- 58077700 +>>58077175 +I don’t have a Gen 5 but I’m pretty certain the added width is purely due to the slide catch now being on both sides. Glock seems to measure at the controls and not at the grip itself. Same with Gen 3, they measure at the thumb rest since it’s the thickest part but not the actual side of the grip. It’s definitely an honest way to measure it but it’s also not entirely accurate. Definitely not debating the fact that Glocks are thicc though, that’s true +--- 58079368 +>>58071793 (OP) +My edc is a 43. Absolutely love it but you get get picrel for a g19. +--- 58080195 +>>58072030 +Cost vs g19 basic mags diff --git a/k/58071968.txt b/k/58071968.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..15acc55a4e7ce8ba84596942679562ab87041915 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58071968.txt @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +----- +--- 58071968 +Today is Italy's Army 162nd birthday +--- 58071987 +162 years of surrendering and losing +--- 58072453 +>>58071987 +Shut up, they did fine until WW2, and they have their own MIC since the Cold War. +t.spaniard +--- 58073282 +Nobody gives a shit +Source: l'esercito è assistenzialismo per terroni +--- 58073295 +>>58071987 +Say that to my face not in the Alps and lets see what happens fucker +--- 58073324 +>>58071968 (OP) +Is there even a combat operative division in italy that's not filled with fucilieri and caporali zoomers? +--- 58074825 +>>58071987 +Thats the french +--- 58074850 +>>58073324 +You have to go into special forces tier shieet. Everything else is retard drooling mouth tier. Italy seems to give a fuck only about groups like GIS/comsumbin etc +--- 58074892 +>>58071968 (OP) +That's pretty neat +--- 58074915 +>>58074825 +France has won more battles than any other state in history. What has Shitalians acheived since the fall of the WRE? Even the Ethopians kicked their shit in. +--- 58075026 +>>58073282 +I terroni hanno modi migliori dell'esercito per mantenersi. Nessun terrone vuole alzarsi alle quattro di mattina, tantomeno per fare il piantone per 12 ore +--- 58075209 +>>58075026 +>alzarsi alle quattro +>piantone per 12 ore +Figa se sei ritardato. Scommetto che non sei stato nel vfp4 +--- 58075252 +>>58075209 +Non sono da nessuna parte io. Ho lavorato in guardia costiera come esterno e loro si alzavano a quell'ora. E non mi chiamare sfigato che sono sensibile, cattivo. +--- 58075544 +>>58074850 +I know some guys from Nembo who just sit around all day in their torn down barracks, sometimes they go to the range and fire a few bullets or a chopper picks them up and they do some drops +--- 58075587 +>>58071987 +Um they won BOTH world wars +--- 58075929 +>>58072453 +>they did fine in WW2 +>have to beg Germany to save them in Albania +>have to beg Germany to save them in Libya +--- 58076013 +>>58075959 +we joke about there being a few Armatas but the Ariete pretty much faces the same fate +--- 58076250 +>>58071987 +Italy won most of the wars it was involved in +--- 58076269 +>>58075959 +shitriete my beloved +>>58076013 +there's definitely more arietes in working conditions than T-14 +--- 58076732 +not white +--- 58076741 +die +--- 58076746 +>>58071968 (OP) +buon compleanno, lads! +--- 58076810 +>>58076732 +>crushes your head like a peanut +--- 58076984 +In about 30 minutes it's Italy 87th anniversary of entering Adis Abeba +--- 58077832 +Why are anglos so mad about us on 4chan? It's embarassing lol +--- 58077845 +>>58077832 +italians destroyed staten island +--- 58077853 +>>58075959 +is the french flag non-negotiable? +--- 58077889 +>>58077845 +>muh Italian immigration +We don't even really consider them Italian anyway anymore and you only have to blame your politicians and your own "culture" of immigration. +--- 58077915 +>>58077889 +>italian last name +>italian customs +>italian dna +>you're not italian +--- 58081367 +Let's remember them having to literally detonate a mountain to kill some tirolese farmers who smoked most of their elite alpini and bersaglieri troops for months. Just to get fired upon from the next mountain when they finally reached the top. +--- 58081767 +>>58072453 +They really didn't do fine lol +--- 58081777 +>>58081367 +what +--- 58081783 +>>58071968 (OP) +--- 58081815 +>>58075959 +i love the ariete like i love my son, i know it's a retard pice if shit but i love him regerdless +--- 58081825 +>>58075929 +>>58081767 +Italy did ok during WW1 and the interwar years (SCW, colonies) until they fucked up in WW2. +--- 58081828 +>>58077915 +>italian custom +>gabagoool and meatballs + +yeah they are mutts alright +--- 58081846 +>>58081825 +the bad rep of the italian army in WW1 is solely this retard mongolid's falut +--- 58081928 +>>58081825 +Doing ok in WW1 with their 35 failed Isonzo attacks against an AH army that had been wiped out in Galicia a year prior, sure. + +Also losing every battle in their own wars of independence only to be bailed out by France and Prussia. Including losing a naval battle against fucking Austrians. Or that infamous intervention in the Spanish civil war where they got their ass kicked by the Republicans and Franco had to take control. Not to mention Adwa etc diff --git a/k/58072057.txt b/k/58072057.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..34a1c6217b593b9dc2b4dd589ad535c97497646e --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58072057.txt @@ -0,0 +1,248 @@ +----- +--- 58072057 +One day with K-2 batallion. Eng subs + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZFs9_nASZo [Embed] +--- 58072168 +>>58072057 (OP) +Ehh Was okay. Bit sad how Slavic the communication from command still was. So much wasted words compared to a NATO militairy. +--- 58072261 +>>58072057 (OP) +Is that the flatnik guy? +Too lazy to watch video +--- 58072316 +>>58072261 +Yes. One of the better parts of the video. +--- 58073247 +>around 600 vatnigs died durint T-shape road series +--- 58073274 +>>58073247 +based, remove vatniggers and don't be afraid of anything +--- 58074245 +There's some based shit in this video. +--- 58074255 +>>58074245 +--- 58074301 +The difference between these vids and that captured Vatnik vlogger from a while back is astounding. The Russians were suffering horrible morale, lack of equipment, overall blackout drunk to the point of pissing themselves most of the time, it was embarrassing and that was last year. The Ukies from these vids seem to have high morale, good supply and aren’t bumbling drunk retards. +--- 58074350 +>>58074245 +Extremely based quote +--- 58074409 +Yes but where is summer offensive? +Ahh yes two weeks +--- 58074414 +>>58074301 +Are you talking about this one? +youtube.com/watch?v=WIZIspwem2s [Embed] +Or is there another one I don’t know about. + +But yeah, I noticed almost since the beginning the total difference in moods between the Russian and Ukrainian videos since the beginning. Even in the absolute worst conditions imaginable the Ukrainians have always had this resigned confidence about them. Like they never regretted being there. +--- 58074427 +>>58074245 +--- 58074477 +>>58074427 +--- 58074489 +>>58074245 +--- 58074496 +>>58074409 +hopefully the 9th, would be based as fuck if they did it on victory day +--- 58074511 +>>58073247 +>20:1 K:W ratio +How have russians not gone extinct yet +--- 58074553 +>>58074526 +--- 58074583 +>>58074526 +>it's almost as if there is a completely inorganic campaign to invert reality +--- 58074591 +>>58074526 +>NATO is out of artillery ammo stocks +This time for real, or like every day as russkies reported before? +--- 58074602 +>>58074511 +They haven't fucked up this bad before. +Even Winter War had them "only" dying 10:1 at worst. +--- 58074634 +>>58074511 +>In March 2019 the FSIN has a total prisoner population of 558,778 +they still have a far from running of soldiers +--- 58074642 +>>58074245 +--- 58074659 +>>58074638 +Isn't this pic was discussed here already, proved nothing and more than a month old? Also, I already saw it, why do you keep it on your computer? Are you russian propagandist? + +>>58074629 +>NATO says it's out of ammo socks +Do you have the source? +>buying from Israel and Korea now +And? +--- 58074668 +>>58074642 +Better cap for meme purposes. +--- 58074670 +>>58074638 +But Zelensky said he wants more weapons and West gave more of those to him, I don't understand your question +--- 58074707 +>>58074629 +>>buying from Israel and Korea now +so it's not out of stock +--- 58074728 +>>58074638 +by now i wouldn't trust anything zelensky says when it comes to ukraine's overall strategy. the guy basically says whatever he thinks west needs to hear to give more aid. +--- 58074730 +>>58074638 +>>58074629 +--- 58074811 +>>58074511 +You're close to a breakthrough here. +--- 58074847 +>>58074808 +Which question did you answer with no? That you work for russian agency? +>transvestite +You forgot to add globohomo, ivan. +--- 58074858 +>>58074245 +And last one because at the end of the day Slavic language is still Slavic language lmao + +This commander's pretty interesting and charismatic without coming off as though he's playing it up. Like he's just this sardonic, slightly salty, but competent dude kind of tired b doing the job. Hope he doesn't actually get in any trouble for speaking frankly near the end. +--- 58074866 +>>58074858 +*kind of tired BUT doing the job +--- 58074877 +>>58074808 +--- 58074890 +>>58072057 (OP) +Boring, i want to see combat footage not this gay talking shit + +I'd watch sitcoms if i wanted to see faggots talking instead of fighting +--- 58074921 +>>58074245 +kino +--- 58074948 +>>58074858 +>Hope he doesn't actually get in any trouble +With whom? West got too prosperous to have so many busybodies to find something like this a problem +--- 58074958 +>>58074927 +You sound like a retarded vatnik. The only one you're fragging is yourself +--- 58074989 +>>58074965 +wtf? straight couple foster homes would've never abused children! +--- 58074996 +>>58074958 +Sorry i called your wife's Ukrainian bull insufferable. +--- 58075010 +>>58074975 +I'm not the one so obsessed about trannies I made seething about them all the time a central part of my identity, but you do you my man +--- 58075015 +>>58074996 +You should be sorry for breathing my air, maggot. +--- 58075018 +>>58074965 +Why do russian always think about child molesting? +--- 58075035 +>>58075015 +Must be hard that no one is pleasing your partner currently. My condolences. +--- 58075076 +>>58072057 (OP) +>[ethnic slur for russians] +based +--- 58075109 +>>58075068 +Westerners have no retort for this so they immidately start deflecting or saying "no u". +Sad! +--- 58075118 +>>58075058 +--- 58075168 +>>58075068 +Why do russians always think about pedophiles? +--- 58075175 +>>58074927 +>reddit frog thinks his opinion matters +--- 58075194 +>>58074927 +whats insufferable about him? +--- 58075206 +"I had one shell left and the gun was kinda jammed, Tank wasnt really combat capable." +Nigga decides to squish people, what a gem. +Top tier video, really interesting to see how high their morale is. +--- 58075215 +>>58075194 +puzzies find Ukrainians insufferable. +--- 58075231 +>>58074670 +Vatnigs believe that more weapons = bad. +--- 58075254 +>>58075076 +But muscovites are not ethnicity. Neither are russian. +--- 58075265 +>>58075231 +Vatniks believe in weapon cap. If Zelensky asks for 100 tanks it means he lost 100 tanks +--- 58075294 +>>58074808 +>N-n-no +Pathetic. +--- 58075319 +>>58075018 +no idea mate +--- 58075330 +>>58075168 +--- 58075537 +>>58075254 +Best to kill them all and let Satan sort them out. +--- 58075618 +>>58074245 +Damn, that's a line right there +--- 58075626 +>>58075583 +The west didn't corrupt anything. The hatred for Russians in eastern Europe was born from Russian occupation. +--- 58075632 +>>58075583 +>kill their own brothers +who? +--- 58075713 +>>58074948 +Wasn't there an instance of a senior officer (I want to say a Company CO) got relieved and maybe even busted down as a result of him going to the press with some dirty laundry in the early months? I don't remember it being anything wildly fucked but I recall it being pretty dumb circumstances. +--- 58075790 +>>58074245 +A bit silly, but that's the right attitude. +--- 58075855 +>>58075076 +m*scovites should really be slur +--- 58075876 +>>58072057 (OP) +where do i get a daughter like this? +--- 58075942 +>>58074255 +>>58075583 +maybe this will give you a clue +--- 58075956 +>>58074921 +post war movies about this war are going to be kino as fuck +--- 58075986 +>>58074245 +>>58074255 +>>58074427 +>>58074489 +>>58074642 +>>58074858 +>>58075076 +Its like quotes from memri tv but actually based +--- 58079528 +>>58075876 +you need to fuck a woman first +--- 58079768 +>>58074489 +This one send me chills. +--- 58079900 +>>58075330 +>>58075319 +You now know EXACTLY what's happening to everyone one of those ukrainian kids kidnapped and taken back to russia. +--- 58081106 +>>58074858 +Oh man, he's that guy. Not the smartest, but will lead, and also take whatever hits necessary for his men. Talks beyond his point, but in that blue collar way knows how to pull it back so he is at least forgiven. No they're good leaders for sure, dudes like this, and charismatic. +--- 58081112 +>>58074245 +Tanker Poet diff --git a/k/58072169.txt b/k/58072169.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..391e632284ad4efe3a95a5c5f6aca0f389a4cd3d --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58072169.txt @@ -0,0 +1,272 @@ +----- +--- 58072169 +Remember that time Brazil produced an MBT that shat all over the latest American, British and French tanks in competition and America had it killed off out of spite? Good times, good times. +--- 58072251 +>>58072169 (OP) +looks like a modernized AMX 30 from this angle +--- 58072272 +>>58072169 (OP) +>Remember that time Brazil produced an MBT that shat all over the latest American, British and French tanks in competition + +Why lie? +--- 58072282 +>>58072251 +Maybe I just have shit taste in tanks but I always thought the amx 30 had a cool aesthetic. Wouldn't really want it over a leopard but still +--- 58072297 +>>58072169 (OP) +Two prototypes made in 1986 ? Is this what curry posting is reduced to now ? This is all the "demoralization" we get for 2 rupees and a weekly pass to the designated street ? +--- 58072303 +The only guy that said it won the saudi test was a Brazilian journalist, so i guess it's like asking your mom who's the cutest boy in the world and it's gonna be me +>Error: You seem to have mistyped the CAPTCHA. Please try again. +--- 58072341 +>>58072303 +/thread +--- 58072387 +>>58072169 (OP) +Why are you even trying to claim that it was sone sort of super-tank. It was designed to be a cost effective budget variant, which I am sure it excelled at. But comparing it to tanks that would make military budgets shatter is just silly +--- 58072400 +>>58072169 (OP) +BRIC posting is retarded. Lie down with dogs and don't be suprised you have fleas. Imagine being a known associate of Russia. +--- 58072425 +>>58072169 (OP) +Imphuessive. +--- 58072556 +>>58072169 (OP) +If it was a good tank, why didn’t Brazil buy it? +--- 58072562 +>>58072400 +I spent 12 years of my life selling American industrial and construction equipment in Russia, and going there at least twice a year. I’m almost ashamed of it. +--- 58072570 +I hate brazil so much bro's it can be a literal utopia yet they cant seem to get their heads out of their ass. Their domestic production capabilities are impressive for a latinX country and have one of the most advantageous geograpgies in the world +--- 58072589 +>>58072570 +>latinx +Opinion discarded. +--- 58072592 +Is this the new turdie cope? +--- 58072593 +>>58072589 +it was ironic you nigger +--- 58072602 +>>58072400 +>>58072562 +>>58072570 +>muh Russians +>latinx +holy fuck /k/ is full of faggots now +--- 58072667 +Didn't America do the same to the Lavi and the Avril Arrow? +--- 58072679 +>>58072593 +>I was only pretending to be retarded +Shove that mutt irony up your ass. +--- 58072758 +>>58072169 (OP) +It was mediocre at best, and none of the vital components were actually brazilian designed- the entire turret was British & the powerpack was German. There's not one LaTeaNex country with a good MIC +--- 58072886 +>>58072758 +>anon discovers globalism + +Stop the presses! +--- 58072924 +>>58072169 (OP) +>Remember that time Brazil produced an MBT that shat all over the latest American, British and French tanks in competition and America had it killed off out of spite? Good times, good times. +The Saudi's had a choice between a tank that had just proved itself exceptionally in real combat and is guaranteed to have spare parts and upgrades available for the next 50 years or a tank that has never seen battle, whose own government is not even purchasing it and the company is so unstable it will literally go bankrupt if the Saudi's don't financially keep them afloat with your purchase... +The whole scheme of find foreign buyers to fund domestic tanks was retarded to begin with. If the Osório was going to have any success on the export market, step one would to be have Brazil purchase a few hundred and fully commit themselves to the tank so that other nations would know that the rug would not be pulled out from under them at the first economic downturn. A tank is a 50 year investment, there can be no instability. +Blaming the Americans is just cope, if Brazil wanted to sell this tank then they should have committed to buying them. It is clear a main battle tank was too ambitious a project for them. +--- 58073261 +>>58072169 (OP) +>America had it killed off out of spite? +what's with the avro arrow levels of cope +--- 58073323 +It was Engesa's own fault you dumb commie. +--- 58073354 +>>58073261 +Canadians are just south Americans with snow. No innovation, no creativity, because their whole economy runs off of resource extraction. So the one time they run their two engineers together and make something that fails due to the country's poor MIC, they get butt lasted forever. +--- 58073368 +>>58072556 +Because they wasted their military budget for a year developing a the prototype tank, I wish I was kidding +--- 58073461 +>>58073368 +The Tank was entirely fundinded by Engesa, why are you lying on the internet? +--- 58073488 +>>58072924 +This. +The only stable military company of south america is Embraer. Engesa killed themselves with a risky MBT project without any financial leeway and a reliable user (their own gov). They used to do upgrades to WWII tanks or far simpler vehicles. +--- 58073523 +>>58073488 +>The only stable military company of south america is Embraer. + +Akaer, SIATT, Ares and a bunch of others are doing well for themselves. Only AVIBRAS is in trouble because of retarded govt fucking their sales. +--- 58073573 +That said, pls buy our missiles. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uod-aUhjKpU [Embed] +--- 58073635 +>>58073523 +Thanks for the correction (probably) Brazilian anon. +Those companies looks fairly high tech, does Brasilia is even buying from them? Brasil (and all latin america are) is an ideal country for UAVs. +--- 58073658 +>>58072169 (OP) +Cute centurion bro +--- 58073744 +>>58073635 +Akaer took part of the development of the Hürjet, with materials and other stuff. SIATT makes missiles and other missile related stuff and Ares is a Elbit subsidiary. + +>Brasilia is even buying from them? + +Only the Cruise and Antiship missiles, there's a company working with MBDA for VTOL UCAV's. +--- 58073879 +>>58072667 +No and fuck no +--- 58074081 +>>58072169 (OP) +Who keeps brazilposting on fucking /k/, nobody cares about SA countries here dude, nothing of note worthy talking in the region +--- 58074102 +America did the same to the TSR-2 bomber because it blew their shitty F1-11 out of the water. Leaned on the British government to cancel it which they did and even destroyed the prototypes and tooling. +--- 58074381 +>>58074102 +>Shittier A-5 vigilante +>It was the heckin' mutts +sure nigel +--- 58074764 +>>58072169 (OP) +It looks like Centurion and Leo1 had a baby. +--- 58074880 +>>58072570 +You absolute faggot. Your dad should be ashamed of you. +--- 58075239 +>>58074102 +this thing looks friggen cool +--- 58077301 +Two more gripen arrived in Brazil today. +--- 58077328 +>>58072169 (OP) +OP is a faggot. + +The Osorio was a prototype tank developed by the Brazilian company Engesa in the 1980s. While it was never produced in large numbers, it was designed to compete with contemporary American, British, and French tanks. Here is a brief comparison of the Osorio with some of these tanks: + +- M1 Abrams (USA): The M1 Abrams is considered one of the best main battle tanks in the world. It has a powerful 120mm gun, advanced armor, and a highly effective fire control system. Compared to the Osorio, the Abrams has superior protection and firepower. + +- Challenger 2 (UK): The Challenger 2 is another highly regarded main battle tank. It has a 120mm gun, advanced armor, and an excellent fire control system. The Challenger 2 is generally considered to be more heavily armored than the Osorio and has better protection against modern anti-tank weapons. + +- Leclerc (France): The Leclerc is a modern main battle tank that entered service in the 1990s. It has a 120mm gun, advanced armor, and a highly sophisticated fire control system. Compared to the Osorio, the Leclerc is considered to have superior mobility and advanced electronics. + +Overall, while the Osorio was a well-designed tank with some advanced features, it was not considered to be on the same level as contemporary American, British, and French tanks in terms of protection, firepower, and advanced technology. However, it is important to note that the Osorio was never produced in large numbers or tested in combat, so its true capabilities are difficult to gauge. +--- 58077521 +>>58072169 (OP) +No +--- 58077546 +>>58072562 +You're a faggot, but not because of the reason you specified. +--- 58077560 +>>58077301 +wrong thread anon +--- 58077604 +>>58077560 +also, no they didnt +--- 58077623 +>>58077604 +https://www.aereo.jor.br/2023/05/04/chegam-ao-brasil-de-navio-mais-dois-cacas-saab-f-39e-gripen/ + +Kys +--- 58077634 +>>58072570 +>one of the most advantageous geograpgies in the world +--- 58077722 +>>58073354 +Burgers have a short memory. If it wasn't for Canadian innovation(and generosity), 2/3 of your country would be dead from diabetes. +--- 58078764 +>>58072602 +>Not saying latinx to anger Mexicans +--- 58078814 +>>58072282 +Why would appreciating the amx30 be shit taste? +--- 58078861 +>>58072924 +It's why when the French tried to market the AMX-40 there were no takers. I think the only time a country gets away with making an export only tank is if they're the bongs who were simply selling export tanks that were commissioned by the buyer in the first place. + +And let's face it the main reason 3rd world domestic things from the 80s never had a chance is when the cold war ended most of the west and east suddenly had several thousand tanks and aircraft they no longer needed to fight off NATO\Warsaw Pact so they went "You thirdies want our junk?" +--- 58078887 +>>58072169 (OP) +It kinda looks like a VT-4 +--- 58078925 +>>58072169 (OP) + +Backed up with Avro Arrows and infantry with EM-2s it would have been invincible. +--- 58078955 +>>58074102 +Fucking A-1 Moron Cope of the highest degree. Please tell us about the functional TSR-2 avionics suite and exactly when it was going be operational. +--- 58078981 +>>58072297 +To be fair, a sample size of 2 working tanks represents a sizeable fraction of the number of T-14s that will ever be built. +--- 58078990 +there were supply chain issues with its foreign made parts +development was delayed +when the Cold War ended there was a combined drop in the need for MBTs and a surplus of tanks flooding the market eliminating the business model selling abroad first to cover development costs +--- 58079017 +Buy our SHORAD Guarani now. +--- 58080114 +>>58072589 +>>58072602 +>>58074880 +>>58077634 +>brazoolian shitskins absolutely seething at someone pointing out they live in a shithole + +hes literally right, your country is a natural paradise and geographically situated to be a regional superpower but its demography is too stupid to exploit this fact +--- 58080179 +>>58072886 +Why would any nation south of the US need an MBT? Their militaries are for domestic oppression, dickwaving and arming cartels. +--- 58080261 +>>58080114 +There is no reason for it to need to be a superpower because there are no regional threats. The sensible thing would be development but it's failure to be colonized by nations of productive cultures ensured permanent backwardness. +--- 58080266 +>>58080114 +ok retard +--- 58080293 +>>58080179 +>let me talk about your countries + +I mean really what do you gain by telling shit you don't know like this? Answer me sincerely; +--- 58080359 +>>58080179 +Their neighbors have mbts, its the same reason they were racing to build dreadnoughts in the 1920s. +--- 58080524 +>why is a country with their own MIC building weaponry + +Sometimes i wonder how can you people can even breathe by yourselves, let alone use a gun. +--- 58080585 +>>58072667 +>avro arrow +canucks absolutely cannot accept that they were just late to the game can they +--- 58080612 +>>58072169 (OP) +I hate the Osorio for killing the Tomoyo 3, which was a true homegrown tank. +--- 58080693 +>>58072570 +Oh thanks for reminding me of that anon T_T, and guess what? +We just lost ANOTHER chance to toss the corruption shit and drug cartels away and go with the yellow bricks roads... imagine what we could do with just the natural resources ¬¬' + +The anon dude in 58072303 says it was a biased the claims that the tank had a good performance... Well i'll keep thinking it made a good impression, but also guess what? + +The excuses of "the 'evil' USA slandering the project made the arabs not buy it, which made Engesa, the company that built the tank, go bankrupt" can EVEN be truth! but USA argument that the tank was bad business because had several parts made in different parts of the world its obviously correct! + +Imagine if the optics manufacturers in, lets say germany, dont want produce it anymore? +What about the buyers? fuck them. + +The suspension company in italy went bankrut oh boy +How about the buyers? fuck them. + + +Its "Santos Dumont really invented the airplane"(which i think was a cool fella and really very intelligent) all again, my fellow countryman lack of realizations so they cling on anything that pops out, so fucking sad, please pray for us. +--- 58080728 +Brazilians are retards who think they invented man-powered flight, and are taught as such in school. +--- 58080876 +>>58080693 +Take the Bernardinipill +--- 58081107 +>>58072169 (OP) +>an MBT that shat all over the latest American, British and French tanks in competition +Sure thing. A country that has not a single minute of experience in tank warfare, doesn't have a meaningful (military) industrial base designs an MBT that's "better" than everything designed by nations who got both much more tank experience (IRL) and an industrial base. + +You hues are just a fucking joke. The thing might have been the best south american MBT. But then again: That's like being the cleanest hobo under the bridge diff --git a/k/58072171.txt b/k/58072171.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..663fbaecb863c5ee35a2c5a5e8a44bf4059bb970 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58072171.txt @@ -0,0 +1,162 @@ +----- +--- 58072171 +From italy invasion of ethipia to italy invasion of greece, on which part of the spectrum is the Russian invasion of Ukraine? +--- 58072181 +>>58072171 (OP) +I wanna invade them, if you know what I mean. +--- 58072186 +>>58072171 (OP) +Rape +--- 58072189 +>>58072171 (OP) +probably Greek invasion on Italy part of the spectrum +--- 58072199 +Girl on left looks like it's just Tuesday or something. +--- 58072218 +>>58072199 +what's the girl equivalent of buckbroken? +--- 58072225 +>>58072218 +Mindbreak +--- 58072235 +>>58072199 +>When you love your man and wanna indulge him in his fantasies to make him happy +>When those fantasies involve your sister +--- 58072250 +>>58072218 +Subspace. +--- 58072258 +>>58072218 +My wife calls it +>cavewoman brain +--- 58072262 +>>58072225 +not sexist enough +>>58072250 +TIL +>>58072258 +heartychuckle.gif +--- 58072336 +>>58072171 (OP) +>on which part of the spectrum is the Russian invasion +oh it's on the spectrum alright +--- 58072655 +>>58072181 +I don't think I get you, what do you mean exactly? +--- 58072720 +>>58072250 +In todays episode of words that I didn't knew existed however was looking for a long time. +--- 58072749 +>>58072720 +What is linear algebra? +--- 58072782 +>>58072171 (OP) +--- 58073259 +>>58072171 (OP) +Thanks for pic, OP. I love seeing women tied up. +--- 58073278 +>>58072655 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3l4WP06h1A [Embed] +--- 58073373 +>>58072336 +kek +--- 58073616 +>>58072186 +>>58073278 +Isn't rape illegal and considered a crime? +--- 58073713 +>>58072171 (OP) +The Italo-Ethiopian War. Specifically, the 1895-1896 one. +--- 58073719 +>>58072782 +This post aged well!!! +--- 58074467 +>>58072171 (OP) +>tfw no rope bunny gf +>>58073616 +CNC, rape play. Literally the most common fantasy women have. Lots of fun if you keep it safe. +--- 58074510 +>>58073616 +It's also women's most popular fantasy for obvious evolutionary reasons. +--- 58074633 +>>58072655 +I would like to breach their Maginot Line and then march through their Arch de Triumph. +--- 58075092 +>>58073278 +Wait, is that considered strange behavior? +--- 58075119 +I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THEIR CLOTHES OFF AND HAVE SEX WITH THEM +--- 58075124 +Russia hoped for Ethiopia 2, they got Ethiopia 1 instead +--- 58075138 +>>58075119 +stop speaking in riddles you devious knave +--- 58075205 +Untie them now! +--- 58075253 +I’d land my rocket ship on their Olympus mons pubis +--- 58075270 +Great thread OP keep up with the good work +--- 58075304 +>>58075253 +Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold. +--- 58075728 +>>58073616 +It is? :o +--- 58075733 +>>58075270 +>thread +i see what you did, and you should be ashamed. +--- 58076156 +I want to lay my head on the left's tummy +--- 58076537 +>>58072171 (OP) +Why does this image look so 70s? +--- 58076664 +>>58072171 (OP) +how can I bury myself in both of those at once +--- 58076823 +>>58072199 +I've noticed that in a lot of fetish shoots. Like she's thinking about what to grab from Starbucks after the photographer unties her and she gets dressed. +--- 58076828 +>>58072171 (OP) +>Ok, I'll do a Lark's Head +>a Prusik works good here +>uhhh a trucker's hitch I guess? +>FUCK IT +--- 58076835 +>>58072171 (OP) +--- 58076847 +>>58073616 +it's not illegal if their pupils turn to hearts. +This is common knowledge +--- 58076856 +>>58076828 +Dude on the cover has it right +--- 58076900 +>>58072250 +--- 58076934 +>>58073616 +>Isn't rape illegal and considered a crime? +Ah, shit. +--- 58077042 +>>58072171 (OP) +Huuuh OP?? Care to elaborate with a source?? +--- 58081043 +>>58077042 +--- 58081213 +>>58081043 +god, shes just my type. perfect to me in every way. everything i desire in a womans face. but, im old enough (30) to know that her personality is 99% shit. so i dont feel anything seeing these kinds of images anymore. +--- 58081345 +>>58081043 +>>58081213 +This has some real “cask of amontillado” vibes +--- 58081354 +>>58072336 +LMAO, good one +--- 58081583 +>>58072171 (OP) +You can tell they are French +--- 58081756 +>>58081213 +Sexo, no talkie fag diff --git a/k/58072644.txt b/k/58072644.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b073f23c4a1f7b521c45ef7991746d37ccee1712 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58072644.txt @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +----- +--- 58072644 +Those who cling integral tanks to the F-15 deserve chemical castration. +--- 58072727 +>>58072644 (OP) +AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA + +FUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKK + +I WANNA FLY AN F-15 SO FUCKING BAD FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK +--- 58073026 +>THICCCC +--- 58073108 +>>58072644 (OP) +HNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG +--- 58073170 +>>58072644 (OP) +holy fucking shit thats disgusting. Almost as bad as F16 conformal tanks +--- 58073186 +>>58073108 +F-15 is less aesthetic than the Phantom, Tomcat, Aardvark, Tiger, Cobra, or Tigershark. It as the edge on some of the real uggos, but even the Scorpion has its own superior, unique aesthetic, or the Dragonfly. + +The F-5 is the peak of aesthetics. +--- 58074058 +what can i say? I like em chunky +--- 58074276 +>>58073186 +of course an F-5 tard would have shit taste +--- 58074291 +>>58072644 (OP) +McDonnell designed the FAST Packs for F-15 in 1974, before it was even in service with the USAF +It was always meant to have them but the USAF didn't like them +--- 58074304 +I've never saw a plane looking that dumb +--- 58074317 +Yes, yes, well done Boeing. HOWEVER +--- 58075041 +>>58074317 +Got DAYUM +--- 58075347 +>>58072644 (OP) +--- 58075402 +>>58072644 (OP) +>that side boob +muh dick +--- 58076888 +>>58074317 +--- 58076915 +>CFTs +>integral +please learn what English words actually mean before posting here. +--- 58080258 +>>58076915 +> +--- 58080435 +>>58072644 (OP) +>cling +>integral +You mean conformal, you fucking toad. +--- 58080510 +>I dont like it look. + +I don't give a fuck, retard! +--- 58080649 +>>58073186 +genuinely horrendous taste +--- 58081426 +Oh hi boys +--- 58081445 +>>58081426 +I love the hull of f35 reminds me of a thicc girl but damn the nozzle looks like a prolapsed anus diff --git a/k/58072712.txt b/k/58072712.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..dd3faea0ea3b3516704b32b06a144c4d71c3368d --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58072712.txt @@ -0,0 +1,400 @@ +----- +--- 58072712 +Post a gun and an instrument. +--- 58072721 +>squier +poorfag +--- 58072742 +>>58072721 +Brandfag +--- 58072745 +>>58072721 +I’m learning guitar. Was looking at the American Pro II jazzmaster but when the more sensible route for a beginner. Rather have more money for ammo than strum shitty power cords on a $1700 guitar lol +--- 58072864 +>>58072712 (OP) +Can do, partner. + +>>58072745 +This, I'm a guitar tech and Fender is useless since the late 80ies... +I'm not a big fender fan because I have longass hands and either play old delta stuff or drone/stoner/postcore but anyone buying a modern fender over a g&l, bacchus or squier classic vibe and getting new pickups is a tool. + +>Inb4 poor +Lol no, not quite +--- 58072978 +>>58072864 +What makes G&L strat better than a Fender strat? +--- 58073198 +>>58072712 (OP) +I should get back into playing as much as I practice shooting. +>>58072721 +noguitars +--- 58073264 +>all guitarfigs itt +Surely we have a bassist or drummer here right? Also what would be a good /k/ band name? +--- 58073283 +>>58073264 +Total nigger death. +--- 58073343 +>>58073198 +Based G3/PTR91 and Heavy Metal enjoyer. I would post mine if my son wasn't busy, but I've got a PTR91 and an Ibanez 7-string (in black, of course). +--- 58073347 +>>58073264 +Tommy Hawk and the Vatniks +--- 58073422 +>>58073264 +--- 58073440 +>>58073264 +Cello, but I'm in Florida now a million miles from home +--- 58073514 +>>58072712 (OP) +--- 58073605 +>>58073514 +never trust a man who can play the flute +--- 58073768 +Anyone have suggestions for online guitar lessons? I just wanna jam out, not looking to start a band or anything. +--- 58073789 +>>58072861 +>the gibson flying v +I am jealous +--- 58073820 +>>58073605 +Better than a man who plays the pink oboe +--- 58073836 +Musicians have played a crucial role in fighting forces. + +To wake up troops, to announce the fallen dead, to direct action. + +The Patriots created the US military with official drummers and fifers for this reason. + +We don't need war drums to direct the action anymore, but they are still badass and traditional. + +Imagine shredding out The Star Spangled Banner in the midst of an active war zone. + +That's not psy-ops, that's moralization, that's beauty and power, that's war. + +There are also people who play music at camp or back at the base. +--- 58073841 +>>58073754 +This is also a music thread now +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoFZD-rtWNk [Embed] +--- 58073853 +All good posts so far. I haven't played in years. I used to play in a shitty band, but it was fun; now where I live there aren't too many people who want to play anything but country and mellower classic rock, but practicing on my own just doesn't feel the same. I miss having a drummer and bassist someone singing and it kills my motivation to play at all. Any anons had that happen before? How did you get the motivation back before finding a group of guys to jam with again. +--- 58073866 +>>58073836 + +Even blasting music out of the sound system of your improvised technical fighting vehicle. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBM419uuN_U [Embed] +--- 58073949 +>>58072712 (OP) + +I like guns and guitars + +https://vocaroo.com/1jtHnxflffNn +--- 58074114 +>>58073768 + +>online guitar lessons + +wut. pick up the guitar and try to play every day for 3 or more hours for a month. then go in person and take begginner lessons to unfuck your technique. do this for 6 months. then start trying to play songs you like for about a year. then download a DAW like reaper, record yourself, and see how you really sound. +--- 58074139 +>>58073853 + +i have gone through multiple bands. revolving door guitarists, flakes, narcissists, guys that can't pull the moves. been lucky to have two bands that were excellent. i'm in the same boat as you right now, so i just program drums, and play guitar and bass. concentrating on writing songs since the covid fucked my last band. +--- 58074197 +>>58072712 (OP) +Early 72 4001 +My anti-coon MCX sbr with a can and a thermal +My SP5, no roachshit here bros +--- 58074237 +>>58074197 +two flcl guitars in the same thread? What're the odds. +--- 58074246 +This thread is already so much better than anything on /gg/ +--- 58074275 +>>58072712 (OP) +--- 58074508 +>>58074237 +Actually 3, the Jazz master is in the show too.I used to have azureglo Ric that would have tied it up even better but I sold it a while back +--- 58074911 +>>58073347 +Tommy Hohol and The Vatniks* +--- 58074997 +>>58074197 +I'm jealous. +--- 58075011 +>>58074246 +/gg/ is full of unironic schizos. That place is hell where three mad maniacs incoherently yell at each other. +--- 58076239 +>>58073768 +Save your time and money. Either look up the immense amount of videos on youtube about learning guitar for free, or spend the money on in person lessons until you understand the basics. You can pretty easily teach yourself after that. +--- 58076558 +>mfw no one posted mayonnaise +--- 58076586 +>>58073768 +Everything you need to learn is online for free, start with any free youtube lessons and tabs. +For the love of god though, learn some basic music theory alongside it. Almost everybody gets to an intermediate level playing tabs and then falls off because they never learn theory and never get to the point they can improvise or come up with their own chord progressions and stuff. +--- 58076618 +>>58076558 +No, and I want post horseradish either pinhead +--- 58076626 +>>58076618 +*won't +--- 58076636 +I wanna see an acoustic/SAA combo. Where the cowboys at? +--- 58076793 +>18 images +>no grandpas geetars +--- 58076807 +>>58073768 +Get a cheap squier and then get one of those vox mini input jack headphone amps, you now can hear what you’re playing and even play along with songs you like. Like other anons said, there’s a HUGE variety of guitar lessons you can get for free on youtube, alot of big names have just dumped great lessons too, a teacher is good to just correct improper finger techniques but you can get plenty far without it especially since you just want to do it for yourself, pick a bunch of songs you like and just learn the tabs of one and you’re on your way anon +--- 58076921 +>>58072712 (OP) +--- 58076926 +>>58073841 +Best song of the Civil War, beloved by big sides +https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhS1DertCn8&pp=ygUGbG9yZW5h [Embed] +--- 58076999 +Is /mu/ a good source to learn guitar? +--- 58077018 +>>58073264 +I'll post mine when I get home +--- 58077030 +>>58072712 (OP) +I heard squiers have gotten a lot better over the last decade or so. Is this true? +--- 58077031 +>>58072712 (OP) +>All these guitars +>No sax +Why do you people hate the sexiest instrument? +--- 58077057 +>>58077030 +I don't know if they've gotten better but the ones made 10+ years ago in Indonesia and Japan were damn good. +--- 58077059 +>>58077031 +The sax was literally invented to be an army instrument. Very /k/ anon. +--- 58077068 +>>58076999 +no +--- 58077087 +>>58073567 +--- 58077092 +>>58077031 +Now purchase a Seax to go along with your Sax. +--- 58077148 +>>58076558 +Is this close enough +--- 58077169 +>>58077148 +/k/ is a Duke’s board. Now get out. +--- 58077255 +aight +--- 58077273 +>>58077169 +Duke's Bluke and Fluke +--- 58077400 +>>58077273 +formerly Hellmann's +--- 58077551 +>>58077273 +formerly How's +--- 58077570 +>>58073256 +based +--- 58077595 +>>58073256 +>do instruments of torture count? +--- 58077602 +>>58074776 +neato +--- 58077638 +>>58076999 +/mu/ isn't a good source for anything related to music really. There's a reason they're the only board that's never made a decent song. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdmhyEqCINM [Embed] +--- 58077699 +>>58077638 +It's almost like dedicated boards are awful for discussing the topic they're supposed to be about. See also /a/, /v/, and /his/ +--- 58077820 +>>58073949 +your vocaroo link doesnt work +--- 58078395 +>>58077820 + +yeah. I deleted it due to lack of interest / conversation. +--- 58078406 +>>58078395 +ah +--- 58078510 +>>58078406 + +but here: + +https://vocaroo.com/1c3HjU2MOIuF +--- 58078644 +>>58078510 +very nice anon-kun :3 +--- 58078651 +Shitty pic, am drunk o well +--- 58078668 +>>58078510 +that solo ripped m8 +--- 58078677 +>>58078644 +>>58078668 + +ty anons +--- 58078727 +Oh I wanna play +>great idea for thread OP XD +--- 58078733 +>>58078710 +I see impracticality is kinda your thing, huh? +I kid I kid, v beautiful +--- 58078741 +>>58078727 +cont. +--- 58078749 +>>58078741 +cont. 2 +--- 58078770 +>>58078749 +cont. 3 + +the "I'm big in Europe" guy haha +--- 58078789 +>>58076793 +what about great grandpas guitars? +--- 58078798 +>>58073264 +I also play guitar but I've gotten very rusty, haven't picked any up to play in a while for a variety of reasons except once in a blue moon + +>good /k/ band names +-2 More Weeks +-OP and the Faggots +-Brownings on Mars +-Hillary's Hole +-Mostly Americans +-Skin Table +--- 58078923 +>>58078749 +Based cowboy +--- 58079004 +This thread makes me think that /k/ has more musical interest than /mu/, these threads over there are just the same 3 people but we have alot of variety here +--- 58079047 +>>58078789 +fuck you i read this in his voice +--- 58079067 +>>58078789 +"...oh you mean a grandpa's guitars?" +"A grandpa's guitars. It's for pussies and grandpa's. Ugh... I think you'd know it." +--- 58079227 +>>58079067 + +based +--- 58079287 +>>58073836 +--- 58079296 +pianos are chads guitars are fags + +that is all +--- 58079347 +>>58079296 +Okay Liberace +--- 58079473 +>>58073514 +mega based tpr9 enjoyer +--- 58079626 +>>58072712 (OP) +Rosewood seemed appropriate +--- 58079673 +>>58079626 +why is your truss cover upside down? +--- 58079794 +>>58072712 (OP) +Honk +--- 58079815 +>>58079794 +>if Steyr had patented Browning's BOSS system +--- 58079843 +>>58079673 +Oops, did a restoration/setup on it like 6 months ago and I guess I missed that one. Don't have an amp after moving and I don't play as much as I used to. It's like having a gun with no bullets. Maybe I'll find something cheap on craigslist, I really miss playing. Just had back surgery so I guess I have some time to see what I remember. + +Bonus pic for shits with my grandpa's marlin 80 knockoff from the 30's sears catalogue +--- 58080325 +>>58076793 +>>58077255 +--- 58080413 +>>58078789 +Gotchu right here +--- 58080455 +I really need to practice more +--- 58080490 +>>58080413 +oooeee lookie here at Mr. Moneybags and his fancy electronic pickemups +--- 58080526 +>>58072712 (OP) +Only a Gibson is good enough. +--- 58080581 +>>58080490 +Fine, fine, I guess that's all a bit new fangled for you dinosaurs. I've removed (most) of the electrical infetterance from this one. +--- 58080590 +>>58080581 +Like a real dumb boomer I forgot the jay peg. +--- 58080642 +>>58072978 +G&L is Leo Fender’s second guitar company, after Fender sold out and became crapola. +--- 58080652 +>>58080642 +that didn't answer the question +--- 58080699 +>>58080652 +G&L is fender, but you get what you pay for instead of the brand on the headstock. +--- 58080718 +>>58080699 +so you don't know then, got it +--- 58080787 +since this thread is better than anything on /mu/ already, im gonna ask here + +is the jazzmaster (squier) a good guitar for someone who wants to play just about anything from post-punk to black metal? it will be my first guitar and im thinking about getting either the jazzmaster or the jaguar, im a poorfag so i cant afford to make bad decisions. +--- 58080793 +>>58080718 +How many different ways can I say the same thing? +G&L has higher build quality, and many of the various gripes I have heard about modern Fenders falling apart aren’t issues with G&L guitars. I play a hexaphonic guitar I built myself, and haven’t played any strat for an extended period of time, however, I can tell you from the fucking around I have done, a G&L has harder fret wire, nicer pots, and is just generally better out of the box than a Fender at a comparable price point. +--- 58080812 +>>58077699 +This is kind of an open secret on the site, pretty much every board knows that the "off topic" threads will always have better discussion than on the threads they're supposed to be on. +You know, minus threads that belong on /pol/, those are just nothing but screaming schizos. +--- 58080835 +>>58080787 +If you want to play “anything”, you will be best served by a strat or super strat style, as they will give you more options tonally than any other guitar. That being said, go down to your local guitar store, and play guitars in your price range, no advice is going to substitute for personal preference. +If this is your first first guitar though, like, never picked one up before, go on Craigslist and buy a cheap classical guitar to learn on, nylon strings will be nicer on your fingers so you can practice longer before your fingers bleed like Bryan Adams. +--- 58080845 +>>58080793 +The guitar itself is the most irrelevant part in the music creation process, i say this as someone who has dumped tens of thousands in gear, with proper care any guitar regardless of cost and build quality will hold up to any amount of playing you will realisticly do. Every guitar and bass player should know how to set up their own gear regardless and straighten a neck when it gets warped, refret jobs are so cheap and easy to do on anything but a Rickenbacker or a Gibson nub purist that it shouldn’t even be part of your criteria for what makes a good guitar, who gives a fuck if a thin fret wire wears out more easilly when it’s just a two hour job for any tech, and no, plecking your shit is retarded +--- 58080993 +>>58080455 +With which? +--- 58081015 +>>58080787 +Go to a music store and play one, as well as a couple other different guitars. How it feels in your hands is gonna be way more important early on than how it sounds. If it fits you well you'll want to play it more. Imagine if you ordered a gun online, picked it up at the FFL, and never bothered even gripping it like you were shooting it until your first trip to the range. Go to the store and find out before dropping a few hundo on it. +All of that said, the Classic Vibe Squiers are absolutely g2g, it will definitely make a solid first guitar in general, though the other anon is right that a normal, or even better an HSS strat will give you a lot more versatility. +--- 58081016 +>>58080993 +Mostly meant the harmonica but it never hurts to get in as much practice with both +--- 58081091 +I play an Harley Benton on a shitty 40 bucks amp. +Any 4 strings bass recommendations? +--- 58081240 +>>58081091 +always peeb +--- 58081256 +>>58080845 +You sound like an actual retard who can’t play and now thinks build quality means nothing because expensive stuff didn’t make him play more gooder +--- 58081372 +>>58081256 +Yeah bro, you’re gimmick of the week parts build is totally bad ass and not a complete waste of cash. Cant wait to see you be a fudd when you list it for $3k to never have it sell. Which eceleb made you base all of your opinions on absolute guitar fuddlore? +--- 58081789 +>>58077030 +Recently bought a Squier Affinity stratocaster, same model I had when I was a kid -- very happy with it, miles better quality than my 2006 model. Fit and finish are as good, if not better, than the Mexican Fenders. The pickups are a little weaker, but you wouldn't notice unless you were doing an A-B comparison. + +The Classic Vibes have some nicer models, especially if you like Jags/Jazzmasters, but I don't like the gloss neck. The main breakthrough seems to be cheaper CNC routing and automation, really brought down the price of quality instruments. Unless you're going with an American series, I'd save your money and get 2-3 Squiers for the price of a Mex Fender. diff --git a/k/58073042.txt b/k/58073042.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..49adfebf1ec3b413f08b6ae37d5fa21f0091d7aa --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58073042.txt @@ -0,0 +1,218 @@ +----- +--- 58073042 +Do you love nuclear weapons? + +Or are you afraid of them? +--- 58073072 +>>58073042 (OP) + +>U.S. Air Force General Jack Ripper goes completely insane, and sends his bomber wing to destroy the U.S.S.R. He thinks that the communists are conspiring to pollute the "precious bodily fluids" of the American people. + +"War is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought." + +- General Jack Ripper + +Our own Sun Tzu. +--- 58073106 +>>58073072 + +Technically, there is no legal precedent for 2nd Amendment ownership of private nuclear weapons. + +History has not yet produced such a competent figure. It requires a combination of capital, legal counsel, scientific knowledge, and will (balls). +--- 58073191 +>>58073042 (OP) +I look at them the same way I look at black Amazonian goth mommies; with a fearection. +--- 58073220 +>>58073072 +does anyone have that quote by Thomas S Power from a SIOP briefing where he tells a few generals that he hopes they don't have family in armenia because it will get wiped off the map in a nuclear war? I've been looking for it for months +--- 58073353 +>>58073072 +Absolutely based. R*ddit war tourists will disagree with this. If we had destroyed the USSR in the 50s, there would be no civil rights movement or progressive movement +--- 58073356 +I just think they're neat +--- 58073359 +>>58073191 + +I can't relate with you but I do understand you + +>>58073220 + +I haven't heard this, but I'll do some digging and reading about it. + +We do have Patton, who wanted to create an "irradiated belt" of nuclear devastation across the Northern border of North Korea. + +He wanted to drop dozens of nuclear weapons on Korea, the president said nah bro you are fucking crazy, time to retire. + +That is who Jack Ripper is based on. + +Patton was a great military mind though, and proved this in WWII. + +He went a little fuckin crazy near the end there. + +But the pinko libs were a real thing. + +And now they run the country. +--- 58073364 +>>58073353 + +General Jack Ripper is a fictional character lmao + +You ready for the new marvelino movie? + +Maybe you are the one from preddit. + +We just like weapons down here. +--- 58073370 +>>58073359 +That's MacArthur you fucking liberal. Patton's the one who named the Jews and corrected said that we fought the wrong enemy in WWII, and then got killed for it. +--- 58073376 +>>58073220 +It was Albania anon, for some reason we targeted up to 80 warheads on them simply for being commies, and at the time had publicly severed relations with thr USSR, weren't in the Warsaw Pact either. +Partial source: +https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2018-08-15/us-nuclear-war-plan-option-sought-destruction-china-soviet-union-viable-societies +See the section on SIOP-64 +--- 58073387 +>>58073364 +What does him being fictional have to do with anything? What he said was correct,or are you of the opinion that we shouldn't nuke the vatniks before they could nuke us, you fucking jew? +--- 58073392 +>>58073353 +You say this but but shit like the french revolution happened. It happened several times in fact. +--- 58073394 +>>58073042 (OP) +I love mine, they are great but the ones you have are evil and you should probably destroy them. +--- 58073399 +>>58073042 (OP) +I fear the government implementing mark of the beast cbdc microchips more than I fear nuclear weapons +--- 58073403 +>>58073392 +The monarchists didnt have nukes then +--- 58073427 +>>58073042 (OP) +They’re a genie in a bottle. Once it’s out we aren’t gonna stop the cascade of first strikes. You could make the argument that their existence has stopped many wars from the threat of being glassed but they also provide the greatest threat to mankind’s existence. Now we have AI on the horizon, and while nukes can’t decide on their own to explode an AI can choose when to kill +--- 58073438 +In the event that Oppenheimer or somebody with technical know how is lurking this thread, I have a question. How do the technicians perform maintenance on a modern warhead without activating the anti-tamper systems? +--- 58073444 +>>58073438 +I think you need to use the war thunder forums for that kind of info anon. +--- 58073450 +>>58073392 +If internal traitors (no doubt funded by foreign interests) wanted to subvert my country, and my country is the only one with nukes, I can deal with them however I please, and no amount of kvetching from other nations can deter me. +--- 58073468 +>>58073438 +You can do maintenance when it’s not primed. Most nukes except the rapid deployment ones are duds until they have the priming sequence activated. We even do drills with dud nukes, and got in REAL trouble when the Air Force accidentally flew over the Midwest with a primed and ready to go nuke. +--- 58073571 +I think they’re overrated and a total waste of resources. +--- 58073594 +>>58073106 +It would fall under the category with things like grenades, which are illegal to own since you cannot really claim it's for self defense or hunting or some shit. +--- 58073628 +>>58073042 (OP) +We should use them more. They could solve all of our problems +>Racism +Hard to be racist when humanity doesn't exist anymore +>Environmentalism +The Earth will come back, we won't +>Commies +Even if they survive, let's see them collectivise the ashes +>Moral Degeneracy +Let's see you have a pride parade during a nuclear winter +>Government corruption +Can't be corrupt if you don't exist +You can't convince me that nukes aren't the answer to all of life's problems +--- 58073644 +>>58073042 (OP) +I think they are neat and I'm not really afraid of them. The hype is overblown. Most people don't read up on nuclear doctrine. Most of the nukes are going to be flying towards other silos (ie Montana, Wyoming, or other mostly empty land); the idea being that the best way to scrape out a win in a nuclear war is to deny the enemy the ability to use their own weapons. The civilian death toll would still be staggering, but it wouldn't be this extinction level event that puts and end to society as we know it. People also underestimate the power of non-nuclear weapons. Conventional weapons can also render a city into complete rubble even if it isn't as instant as a nuclear bomb. Chemical warfare is actually terrifying, way more terrifying than nuclear warfare in my opinion. +--- 58073651 +IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER +--- 58073662 +>>58073644 +>Most people don't read up on nuclear doctrine +Do you? It seems you understand a counter force strike but are unaware of counter value strikes. +--- 58073693 +>>58073644 +You are thinking too small. The atmosphere will be clogged with nuclear winter, the impacts of every nuke being used while people still live to use em will probably cause the tectonic plates to get fucky, and the scars of such a war will have reset most of humanity to AT BEST the middle ages +--- 58073733 +>>58073662 +The US doesn't emphasize countervalue strikes anymore, they are all in on counterforce. And I suspect that the US would likely be the ones to perform a first strike if full blown nuclear war were to start. +--- 58073775 +>>58073693 +Hasn’t it been determined nuclear winter is extremely unlikely? +--- 58073805 +>>58073775 +Depends entirely on the targets, with how much plastic is in the world these days I wouldn't be surprised if a city like NY or Tokyo burning blocked out the sun for hundreds of miles for months. +--- 58073810 +>>58073775 +You don’t play games of chance when it come to extinction level events +--- 58074085 +>>58073359 +And Ripper is an exaggeration of LeMay. +--- 58074128 +>>58073775 +100% fake, used by alarmist retards like >>58073810 that watched too many movies and now believe Earth will split in two after the first nuke. This fear mongering only makes us vulnerable to nuclear blackmail by shitholes like russia and only benefits them. +--- 58074144 +>>58073042 (OP) +LeMay was right. +--- 58074725 +>>58073042 (OP) +I don't like them. +They make international politics boring. +What fun would watching UFC be if both fighters had a loaded glawk in hand? They'd just stand around and stare each other down because neither wants to get shot +--- 58074746 +>>58073370 +>said that we fought the wrong enemy in WWII +Didn't he mean Soviets? +--- 58074784 +>>58073628 +>Even if they survive, let's see them collectivise the ashes +There's literally commies (although it's *really* fringe) who literally believe that nuclear war is based because they'll be able to build a communist utopia in the aftermath +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_International_Posadist#Nuclear_first_strike +--- 58075108 +>>58074784 +Finally, a group of commies that talk some sense. Shame they're godless commies though +--- 58075301 +>>58073042 (OP) +both +--- 58075666 +>>58073571 +That remind me of something, but I can't quite put my finger on it... +--- 58075925 +>>58073468 +>and got in REAL trouble when the Air Force accidentally flew over the Midwest with a primed and ready to go nuke. +Explain this shit please +--- 58076089 +>>58075925 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_States_Air_Force_nuclear_weapons_incident +--- 58076141 +>>58073359 +>We do have Patton, who wanted to create an "irradiated belt" of nuclear devastation across the Northern border of North Korea. + +Patton died years before the Korean War even began, you're thinking of MacArthur, who was a bona fide retard (see: Philippine campaign, pardoning of Japanese war criminals, Second Phase Offensive) +--- 58076150 +>>58073042 (OP) +I'm less afraid of them than I am of the blind, unthinking panic that would emerge as a result of their use at almost any scale. The panic would likely crash national and international economies, leading to far more deaths and suffering than the warheads themselves. + +I'm not talking market crashes here--I mean, people are likely to abandon their jobs and homes en masse and flee cities that would never be seriously considered as targets. What happens if a hundred million people go nuts all at once and try to go somewhere else all at the same time, with no real planning or rational thinking? Starvation and disease would ensue. +--- 58076154 +>>58073628 +>Hard to be racist when humanity doesn't exist anymore +As sad as it would be if all of humanity was wiped out, at least NDEs are real and prove that there is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die. So who cares about what happens here on Earth anyway? + +Here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real: + +https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o [Embed] + +It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out: + +https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist + +>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"." + +Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison. + +Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE: + +>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved." + +Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs. +--- 58078832 +>>58073042 (OP) diff --git a/k/58073097.txt b/k/58073097.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..354c8714762dda9b30f5887e3694d2c8fc6d3c3f --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58073097.txt @@ -0,0 +1,285 @@ +----- +--- 58073097 +Translation: +How not to get into captivity? +1. When the enemy approaches, take out the grenade and pull the pin. +2. Put the grenade under body armor or clench it with your chin. + +Let not replenish the exchange fund for ukronazis, better death than shame + +Tactical advantage? +--- 58073176 +>>58073097 (OP) +this is like discount WW2 jap shit +--- 58073210 +>>58073097 (OP) +I draw the line here. I refuse to believe in vatnik bushido. +--- 58073214 +>>58073097 (OP) +TENNO MONKE BANZAIIIIIIIIII-ACK +--- 58073232 +>>58073097 (OP) +That can't ACTUALLY be real. +Even if it is, refusing to surrender or worse, faking surrender to try and frag the enemy, is just going to mean that the enemy is more likely to ice you, surrendering or not. +--- 58073233 +>>58073097 (OP) +>pull pin +>explode +>Ukie that's 200 meters away is a bit confused +Another brilliant move by the russians +--- 58073235 +>>58073210 +Shouldn't it need to be based on personal morals and a code of honor to classify as busbido? This seems more like monke realizing the average mobik is more useful as a bioguided "smart" bomb than a soldier +--- 58073241 +>>58073097 (OP) +>>58073176 +>discount WW2 jap +old news by this point +--- 58073242 +This new Get Out Of Jail Free card is insane + +>Monopoly Special Military Operation Edition +--- 58073270 +>>58073097 (OP) +>Tactical advantage? +Well you see, this war will continue till the last russian, so encouraging them to kill themselves brings the war closer to end. +--- 58073285 +Honestly, I find it impressive how ruskies have managed to scare themselves into fearing capture more than death. +--- 58073290 +>>58073097 (OP) +>Put grenade *under* your body armor, thus reducing ejection of fragmentation and blast +How nice of them, you wouldn't want to hurt anyone else with your suicide grenade now would you? +--- 58073300 +>>58073285 +That's the result of thier brain dead propaganda +--- 58073304 +Imagine having such a slave mentality that you would for for your master. KeK. +--- 58073311 +Might be fake. If not, this is just like the Japanese in world war 2. They have managed to convince themselves that the Ukrainians are just as barbaric and cruel towards prisoners as they are, and that death is preferable to capture. +--- 58073326 +>>58073290 +I think the intention is for the grenade lever to be pressed down while under the armor, so it only detonates after the soldier surrenders and the Ukrainians remove his armor (and are within frag range). +In other words +>Literal warcrime +--- 58073334 +>>58073311 +The funny thing is that this piece isn't even claiming the Ukrainians would actually mistreat their prisoners. They're literally just pressuring mobiks to an hero so the Ukrainians won't have as many warm bodies for prisoner swaps. +--- 58073374 +>>58073334 +There are a fuckton of mobiks and collaborators to exchange, its Russia that doesn't care about that. +--- 58073428 +>>58073285 +>laugh about bombing apartments/hospitals/schools +>post dead infants on your mainstream news channels calling it denazification +>laugh about raped children lying dead and naked in a ditch +Now the sons and fathers of those people are closing in on you. You're alone, cold, wounded. And for reasons you can't quite explain... its not very funny anymore. I'd be terrified too, if that was me +--- 58073455 +>>58073097 (OP) +I'm skeptical, if for no other reason than that this would be a tacit admission that they're losing. Then again, cognitive dissonance is pretty much Russia's specialty, so they probably wouldn't have trouble reconciling "we're winning, easily" with "here's how to kill yourself when we inevitably lose." +--- 58073472 +>>58073097 (OP) +its probably fake, we wouldve seen much more papers like that before otherwise + +its either fake, or some shit from some very fringe extremist russian group, but not actual official russian army policy +--- 58073478 +>>58073472 +Even if it's fake, some vatniks will believe it and kill themselves +--- 58073484 +>>58073097 (OP) +Wouldn't this just make UKR soldiers kill everyone on sight to avoid getting fragged? +--- 58073502 +i would think this is fake if it wasn't for the use of the word "ukronazi". Anyone trying to make a fake wouldn't think to use that delusional term +--- 58073526 +>>58073097 (OP) +Where's the part where it mentions isekai? +--- 58073531 +>>58073472 +There is no benefit for anyone to make such fake +--- 58073540 +>>58073531 +Anon that's quite nieve +--- 58073550 +>>58073326 +>>Literal warcrime +Nothing new under the sun desu. +They already used tear gas breaking the Geneva Protocol. +--- 58073569 +>>58073334 +I bet their thinking is more like Hamas. If they can get lots of footage of Russians "surrendering" and getting shot by Ukrainians they can try to use it as a wedge against international support. +--- 58073578 +>>58073531 +Moran +--- 58073582 +>>58073526 +Isekai portals only exist in the front bumpers of Japanese municipal buses. +--- 58073583 +>>58073241 +Silly mobik, suicides don't get isekaied. +--- 58073613 +>>58073582 +No, that's just entry level hell. The true portals have always been on the back alleyway transport trucks that come barreling down as soon as you walk around the corner. +--- 58073663 +>>58073326 +everything is a crime in war lmao + +ukraine deserve everything they get +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85qAWk_PKv4 [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L09IPRGUbPU [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9hOl8TuBUM [Embed] +--- 58073709 +>>58073097 (OP) +10-D banana chess? +I can see siberian civil war in less than 5 years. +--- 58073787 +>>58073097 (OP) +Could someone send a memo to those niggers up there, and tell them we are not in the 15. century anymore? +--- 58073826 +>>58073663 +You're right, they deserve more Russians fragging themselves in their own trenches because they finally realized they terminally fucked themselves. +--- 58073862 +>>58073232 +That's the point, anon, the leaders want the mobiks to have no way out but forward. +--- 58073897 +>>58073531 +do you need an excuse to lie on the internet? +--- 58074035 +>>58073097 (OP) +Ohhh, on top of the paper is the slogan of russian army "we don't leave our guys (behind)"... +--- 58074062 +>>58074035 +that rusnigger who suicided himself in the drone hole and never got taken away for burial would disagree, well, if he wasn't dead that is. +--- 58074070 +>>58073526 +None, because it's banned in Russia +--- 58074230 +>>58074062 +The ones left behind weren't "ours", stupid westoid. +--- 58074273 +>>58073540 +>nieve +zoomers confirmed illiterate +--- 58074293 +>>58073232 +They did it in WW2 already, my grandpa almost got it like this in 1943 +--- 58074299 +>>58074035 +you read that wrong, it's "we don't leave our guy's behind" +--- 58074305 +That's funny, I remember as russians tries to depict Ukrainians as suicide bombers. +--- 58074396 +I ahte Russia, and want the whole country to dissapear at this point, but I do feel bad for the forced drafties. Wish they'd just defect. +Have there been any defectors? I couldn't stand to serve the Kremlin, it's not even for god and country it's all in service of banan and monke +--- 58074435 +>>58073285 +I kind of get it. Getting captured just means you'll be exchanged later and if you're exchanged, you'll be tortured and sledgehammered when you get sent back. So suicide by grenade is a far less painful and a lot quicker way to go than that at least. +--- 58074464 +>>58073232 +Half of modern Russian war movies have a bloke blowing himself up or intending to blow himself up as le ebin sacrifice +--- 58074512 +>>58074035 +>>58074435 +and on the bottom it says "better dead than shame" +--- 58074610 +>>58074273 +What’s the indication that he’s gen z +--- 58074616 +>>58074299 +4/10 joke +--- 58074639 +>>58073210 +Yes, always know the difference between Bushido and Bullsheeto. +--- 58074646 +>>58073097 (OP) +if you start doing perfidy in mass then Ukraine soldiers is given free reign to just kill everyone on sight, forever. +--- 58074650 +>>58074464 +Check text on video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcNA81yZQyM [Embed] +--- 58074667 +>>58073502 +Brave of you to assume non-delusional Russians. +--- 58074687 +>>58073613 +I think I’d do more damage to that thing if it hit me +--- 58074697 +>>58073097 (OP) +This is a shitpost by the Ukrainians right? +--- 58074703 +>>58074396 +very few. Puccia makes it extremely difficult to retreat or desert. +--- 58074705 +>>58074435 +>if you're exchanged, you'll be tortured and sledgehammered when you get sent back + +One side does that, idiot. The other needs to exchange prisoners and parole is not part of the swap. +--- 58074758 +>>58074650 +kek +--- 58074775 +>>58073210 +Have you seen/heard the number of suicide instead of capture stories coming out about the russoids? And in the drone videos? No one's really pointing it out but they aren't surrendeirng en masse here. They're blowing themselves up or saying they wanted to in a lot of cases. +--- 58074843 +>>58073097 (OP) +I fucking love the WE DO NOT LEAVE OUR MEN BEHIND on the Russian flag there and then the how to suicide leaflet. +--- 58075024 +>>58074464 +>Half of modern Russian war movies have a bloke blowing himself up or intending to blow himself up as le ebin sacrifice + +It's not even a modern thing, blowing yourself up to own muh Nazis was a key part of every other WWII heroic story, often after feigning a surrender/death. +Shit, probably the first war book I read as a kid, it happened to some teenage civvie who was helping a Soviet paratrooper on occupied territory, and ended up being hunted by the SS. +The paratrooper guy gave him a Tok and an F1 before they split up, and when he ran out of ammo, he tried to lure the Germans close and take them down with him using the F1 (he survived but was knocked unconscious, and the Germans were executed by the Soviet because he thought they killed the kid, I cri evrytiem, it's a small wonder I'm not brainwashed with how much propaganda shit they put in kids' books). +--- 58075337 +>>58074610 +only an actual child or childbrain would spell that word wrong +--- 58075376 +>>58075337 +Newfag +--- 58075516 +>>58074464 +Remember the tale of the guy who fought ISIS until he ran out of ammo and called an airstrike on himself? +After this war, I now understand he was probably fighting rebels and the Russian air force just bombed him by sheer carelessness. +--- 58075531 +>>58073241 +>ULTIMA RATIO VATNIKUM +--- 58075545 +>>58073176 + +Except Japs actually honored their oath to fight to the death because they were based. + +Russians were, are, and always will be, a race of cowards. +--- 58075578 +real or not I think 9 of 10 russkies simply wont follow those instructions. weak messy ideology and weak spirit +--- 58077768 +>>58075545 +They were not purely dedicated to hornorable suicide as a culture. They are example of people surrendering, or returning home from kamikazi attacks. While the army or navy would beat you into adopting military culture, there were also relatable reasons why you might commit suicide for the country. + +>if you die your family won't +>if you die then your mother and sister won't suffer rape +>if you die we won't tell your entire community you are a coward + +Blackmail was often used. The line between personal honor and peer pressure is a thin one. One soldier might absolute believe in his military philosophy. Another might just want to avoid being ridiculed for the rest of his life. +--- 58077821 +>>58073210 +>>58073232 +This is probably real. It's happened in the war as it's gone already, there's at least one video of a bunch of Ukrainians getting pissed that some Russian they captured tried to set off a grenade in his hands near his surrendering buddies. Everyone lives but the Ukrainian gets so pissed he shoots the Russians' corpse. If someone has the WEBM they could post it. +--- 58078585 +>>58073097 (OP) +--- 58078614 +>>58073210 +>>58073232 +Hugging grenades to avoid capture is a time honored Russian/Soviet tradition going back at least as far as WW2. +--- 58078803 +"so we are supposed to kill ourselves so we don't become part of the prisoner exchange pool? What's that even?" + +>The Ukrops will exchange you for one of theirs so both can return to combat + +"So there's no incentive for them to kill me? What do we do with prisoners who we can't let back?" + +>We swap them back to Turkey so they sit out the war + +"Sitting out the war on the Turkish Riviera? That doesn't sound bad either. So why am I supposed to kill myself over surrendering? + +>Trust the plan Z. They are Ukronazis + +"Why are they the Nazis if they care more about me being alive than Russia does?" + +>Shut up or we will rape you and send you to Bakhmut diff --git a/k/58073390.txt b/k/58073390.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4ba61c28bac80bd9046eceb06d27172f5acf4479 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58073390.txt @@ -0,0 +1,226 @@ +----- +--- 58073390 +Thread 2: Organize Before They Rise Edition + +In this thread, we post and discuss old /k/ things (memes, board culture, namefags long-gone, gun price changes over time, relevant pop culture of the era, and so on). + +Grab your SKS boys, we're going innawoods. +--- 58073395 +Postan some old memes. +--- 58073453 +>tfw your WASR jams in the middle of a firefight +--- 58073577 +I'm thinking about doing a 2010-2012-style AR build to larp innawoods like I survived a zombie apocalypse. Did pic related exist at the time? +Also, can anyone list some parts/accessories that were popular for AR's back then? I was more of an AK guy at the time and didn't pay attention to what was hip with the AR-15 crowd. +--- 58073600 +goddamn we used to be unfunny +--- 58073646 +>>58073638 +--- 58073661 +>>58073646 +--- 58073728 +Here's the Zombie loadout template from the last thread >>58031123 → +--- 58073739 +>>58073728 +And here is a version I made with blank squares because it looks better. +--- 58073770 +I'm gonna post some Communist Batman tutorials. +--- 58073865 +>>58073770 +2 of 11 +--- 58073885 +>>58073865 +3 of 11 +--- 58073893 +>>58073885 +--- 58073903 +>>58073893 +5 of 11 +--- 58073923 +>>58073903 +6 of 11 +--- 58073933 +>>58073923 +7/11 was a part-time job +--- 58073942 +>>58073933 +8 of 11 +--- 58073956 +>>58073942 +9/11 was an Israeli art project called "B-Thing" +--- 58073971 +>>58073956 +10 of 11 +--- 58073983 +>>58073971 +11 of 11 +--- 58073992 +These old infographics make me happy the time they represented happened but also sad that said time is over. +--- 58074124 +Pic related is one of the first pics I have saved from my zombie days. I remember seeing it years ago on some zombie survival forum (I don't even think it's still around now). It really inspired young me to try and build my own "zompoc arsenal". +Come to think of it, the whole zombie craze, as cringeworthy as some of it may have been, actually played a huge role in me getting into firearms, self-defense, and survival/prep stuff. +--- 58075019 +>>58073971 +That was pretty funny +--- 58075768 +>>58075019 +Glad you like it. Here's the other one I have. +--- 58075798 +>>58075768 +2 of 21 +--- 58075810 +>>58075798 +3 of 21 +--- 58075822 +>>58075810 +4 of 21 +--- 58075840 +>>58075822 +5 of 21 +--- 58075854 +>>58075840 +--- 58075867 +>>58075854 +7 of 21 +--- 58075897 +>>58075867 +8 of 21 +--- 58075909 +>>58075897 +--- 58075936 +>>58075909 +--- 58075950 +>>58075936 +--- 58075964 +>>58075950 +12 of 21 +--- 58075971 +>>58075964 +13 of 21 +--- 58075984 +>>58075971 +14 of 21 +--- 58076000 +>>58075984 +15 of 21 +--- 58076017 +>>58076000 +very nice, batman. +tell me more +--- 58076018 +>>58076000 +16 of 21 +--- 58076030 +>>58076018 +17 of 21 +--- 58076040 +>>58076030 +18 of 21 +--- 58076057 +>>58076040 +19 of 21 +--- 58076074 +>>58076057 +20 of 21 +--- 58076098 +>>58076074 +21 of 21 +--- 58076447 +>>58076432 +--- 58076454 +>>58076447 +--- 58076469 +>>58076454 +--- 58076527 +>>58076469 +I couldn't find 4. Sorry guys. +--- 58076533 +>>58076527 +--- 58076563 +>>58073395 + +Could arm a solid militia with this. + +Now you see, if you find other people like this. + +You can form very large groups and protect your rights. + +It is your Constitutional right. Federal gun grab? + +That's a Constitutional emergency. + +Just existing keeps pressure. + +To protect your rights. + +And community. +--- 58076581 +>>58076533 +Couldn't fine 7 either. +--- 58076585 +>>58073416 +Throw on a scope and/or suppressor and it's not just a ceremonial rifle. +--- 58076770 +>>58073646 +>.22 +That's an air rifle, specifically fires .177 pellets, thing's barely good enough for killing gophers. +t. former owner +--- 58076838 +>>58073390 (OP) +Thanks anon, this is a really comfy thread. +--- 58076842 +>>58076527 +>Starts off with an MTF transcript +>Skip a few pages in +>CHECHENS AND WHY I HATES THEM +Good content for the soul +--- 58076857 +>>58076394 +Needs a cope cage +--- 58076880 +>>58073390 (OP) +>namefags +I would genuinely ask who cared and why, but I don't care enough to read responses, just enough to pose the question to others, for whatever good that might do. +--- 58076957 +>>58076880 +HotaruManiac was a good writer, although insane. Iirc, he settled down with an asian chick, had a kid and almost blew the entire college savings on a PSG1 last I heard. There also was GarageSalesman I think, who was last heard of during the Arab spring on his way smuggle recently uncovered STG44s from Libya to the US + +Ivan Chesnokov as well was funny the first few times. +Duke was .... Duke +Those are the name/tripfags I remember now. + +Who remembers when this came out? +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLiHqjVNIxY [Embed] +--- 58078674 +>>58076838 +Glad to hear it fren. +--- 58078699 +>>58078688 +--- 58078715 +The classic. +--- 58078766 +>>58076957 +--- 58078775 +>>58073395 +I found an old flash drive the other day that had all my early 2000’s memes like this. +--- 58078863 +>>58078775 +Awesome! Post what you can. +--- 58079016 +>>58078863 +I was thinking I’d be saving a shit load in a new folder but most weren’t even boomer FB tier. +--- 58079024 +>>58078863 +Lots of GWOT +--- 58079478 +https://youtu.be/RdLzIKQk4zY [Embed] +--- 58080219 +I always wondered whatever happened to LMJ. +--- 58081598 +>>58081465 +--- 58081668 +>>58081664 +>/cangen/ +--- 58081771 +>>58081533 +that was a fun read. diff --git a/k/58073505.txt b/k/58073505.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..bfb4a577fac7ae7794d1081b290b292b966938b4 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58073505.txt @@ -0,0 +1,392 @@ +----- +--- 58073505 +I purchased this shotgun from Vance Outdoors. I live in Ohio on a modest size farm. I absolutely smothered this gun (think the old cosmoline on Sks days) in Lubeanaons new winter formula and then I proceeded to hang it on the wall in my barn. Here are my findings. +--- 58073534 +>>58073505 (OP) +First I’d like to say Lubeanon didn’t ask me to do this. In fact he kinda asked me not to do this but I did it anyway. Not all the findings will thrill him but I’m no shill +--- 58073576 +>>58073534 +Before we get to my notes and pictures I want to say I forgot the exact day I purchased this gun. It’s not the biggest deal but it does bother me. I did purchase it for $159 for this experiment but I can’t find a receipt. +--- 58073656 +So day 1. I take it out of its box. It’s got a shit finish and it’s Chinese. We ran 300 rounds of cheap pink birdshot through her. When it’s done it hits the barn and sits on a couple nails. +--- 58073665 +N +--- 58073672 +>>58073656 +Make and model? +--- 58073673 +>>58073665 +I +--- 58073675 +I +--- 58073676 +>>58073505 (OP) +is this 4Chan shilling? +--- 58073677 +>>58073505 (OP) +>Vance outdoors + +I only buy from Vance refrigeration +--- 58073680 +>>58073672 +Savage 320 my good sir. +--- 58073682 +>>58073673 +G +--- 58073690 +>>58073676 +Sorry to interrupt your Russia threads faggot. +--- 58073691 +>>58073682 +G +--- 58073702 +>>58073505 (OP) +E +--- 58073710 +>>58073534 +Ignore the asshats derailing, I’m interested +--- 58073711 +>>58073702 +R +--- 58073718 +>>58073677 +Kek +--- 58073727 +>>58073656 +Day 10, I had a bonfire and multiple people blasted the shit stick. We guessed 200 rounds. This was its final time being shot before being put up. It was cleaned and heavily heavily lubed. +--- 58073737 +>>58073656 +Jesus check out OPs fucking sick bicep tat and cute nails. +--- 58073738 +put it in the toilet +--- 58073755 +>those manicured matte black nails +puked in my mouth a bit +--- 58073781 +>>58073755 +Carol. That's a nice upgrade y'all keeping your old shotgun? +--- 58073809 +>>58073656 +The amount of faggots in here makes me certain I need to keep posting. Anyway. Here was its final resting place for 3 months. Ohio was hit with a fucking huge snow storm a few days before Christmas and it blew the door off my barn and covered the gun in snow. +--- 58073815 +>>58073676 + +Always has been. +--- 58073827 +>>58073809 +>The amount of faggots in here makes me certain I need to keep posting +Fucking dooeeeeeeeet +--- 58073843 +>>58073676 +>>58073815 +You’re gonna love the part of my shilling where I show you the surface rust the gun developed from being covered in snow +--- 58073844 +This thread belongs in /soc/ +You can also post everything you wrote in 1 post, no need to flood the board. +--- 58073848 +>>58073711 +S +--- 58073854 +>>58073844 +The thread is on topic nigger +--- 58073859 +>>58073809 + +keep going, ignore the idiots. this is important science. +--- 58073868 +>>58073809 +So day 3. The snow dried and I put some more lube on her. And there she sat for another 2 days before I put more lube on her. +--- 58073870 +>>58073844 +You can /Soc/ my cock newfag. I’m reclaiming this board from /pol/ and /int/ and you can’t stop me +--- 58073871 +>>58073844 + +go away tard +--- 58073877 +>>58073854 +Your newfaggotry and namefag simping is cancer +Fuck off to /soc/ or back to your discord, retarded tourist +This is our final correspondance. +--- 58073888 +>>58073877 +The thread is on topic. Idk why you're having a shitfit over it but you seem like the type to get mad over anything. +--- 58073908 +>>58073868 +Day 6. My uncle bought a box of chicken home and my sister Nadine decided to shoot some buckshot at the KFC box. Nadine dropped her chicken. And there it sat for another 4 days before we had a heatwave and I rubbed more lube on it. +--- 58073921 +>>58073505 (OP) +Best thread currently on /k/ +--- 58073936 +>>58073809 +I’m sorry for interrupting todays 20th Ukraine thread for this but I don’t care anyway. So anyway. The gun started rusting after being covered in snow I dried it off but it was too late. Some spots had taken hold before the new year. +--- 58073947 +>>58073936 +--- 58073954 +>>58073908 +Day 8. I finally got my husband to fix the barn door. +--- 58073961 +>>58073737 +Cute? +Looks like something out of Jurassic. + +>>58073809 +Decepticon calling others faggots? tssk tssk naughty naughty +--- 58073966 +keep going op, I'm fascinated by your farm life and your csomoline findings +--- 58073967 +>>58073877 +You are so clearly a noguns war tourist +--- 58073972 +>>58073947 +--- 58073984 +>>58073737 +And also his BMI. +--- 58073987 +>>58073656 +At what BMI did you notice your forearm tat became a bicep tat? +--- 58073997 +>>58073966 +Thanks bro. This is easily the best thread on the board so far. Half trolling half findings. All fun. +--- 58074004 +>>58073984 +>>58073987 + +Are you me, faggot? +--- 58074005 +>>58073987 +The person in the picture is 120 pounds. Uh oh. +--- 58074024 +>>58074005 +>4'4' 120 pounds fat dwarf +yeesh +--- 58074030 +>>58074005 +>120 pounds +Those fingers have never touched salad. Why lie on 4chan? +--- 58074034 +Imagine how happy and gleeful OP was thinking about posting this thread? 'Finally' he thought 'I get to make a REAL /k/ thread for REAL /k/ommando's and not those filthy war tourists. It will be like OLD times when ME and the BOYS got some GODDARN RESPECT around here". He had done his little experiment. Diligently kept his notes (but lost his purchasing receipt lmao) and was looking forward to being hailed as /k/'s next savior. Then he pressed post. + +And look, look at this thread you filthy animals. Never change /k/ never change. +--- 58074046 +>>58074030 +>Those fingers have never touched salad. +--- 58074074 +Yeah I was gonna eat some KFC and fuck my fat sister to celebrate and it had gone so wrong. +--- 58074092 +>>58074030 +We love health food bro. Now pls go. +--- 58074103 +>>58074092 +Anyway. The shotgun in a rusted piece of shit but I’m not sure it’s Lubeanons fault. +--- 58074106 +>>58073997 +Are you near a village that starts with M and has 5 letters? +--- 58074135 +>>58074106 +Columbus. +--- 58074140 +>>58074106 +That's right I'm from murica +--- 58074150 +>>58073505 (OP) +OP talking about findings, notes and pictures like this is some experiment is cracking me up. Did you finish grade school OP? 'Cause this shit wouldn't fly for even a high school experiment. + +>Mentions where he lives, where he bought the item and for how much. Doesn't mention make, model and date of production. Like any of us are going to Ohio, buy you a beer and then head over to Vance to buy one of his shitty chinese shotguns. +>'Shit' isn't a proper description of a finish if your experiment involves a possible degradation. The baseline is unclear and the things that were 'shit' haven't been properly documented. The experiment has failed before it started. +>Same goes for 'heavily lubed' and 'old cosmoline on SKS days' as qualifications for the lubing. How much did you use? How did you apply it? What were conditions in which you applied said lube? How old was the lube? In what conditions was the lube stored? +>'Some spots had taken hold before the new year' Nigger we don't know what the relation is between that and your 3 months and 10 day interval period shit. +>Posts shitty pictures and expects us to go look for the results ourselves. + +Spend more money on education then on food and maybe we'll see something properly done next time. Until then you're not allowed into the hallowed halls of the a/k/ademy. +>Which day did the snowstorm blow the barn door off? How long till it was covered in snow and for how long was it covered. Did the snow ever thaw out during that period? How long till you fixed the door? +--- 58074158 +>>58073954 +>Day 8. I finally got my husband to fix the barn door. +So good outcome? What's the point of your thread what did the lube do? +--- 58074162 +>>58074150 +(You) +--- 58074199 +>>58074150 +OP goofed and found out +/thread +--- 58074212 +>>58074150 +>>58074199 + +the no fun allowed crew +--- 58074241 +>>58074150 +My favorite part of /k/ is when someone can’t identify a gun. 4 paragraphs to say I’m a no guns and I’m can’t even identify basic gun types and brands. Please hold my hand Mr OP. Please OP please circle the rust please I beg you. +--- 58074282 +>>58073809 +>The amount of faggots in here makes me certain I need to keep posting. +Based. + +Ignore the wartourist redditors. The idea of someone actually owning guns is too much for their low-test brains. +--- 58074313 +>>58074241 +Why does this cunt keep posting but doesn't finish his fucking story. Just tell us your fucking story or fuck off OP. +--- 58074321 +>>58073947 +>>58073936 +And then? + +Surely you're not stopping at the new year? +--- 58074353 +>>58073505 (OP) +Bretty based thread OP you got the noguns seething. Bumping just to make them seethe more. +--- 58074384 +>mfw all these sneeding war tourists +Did ukraine lose another city or something to set you faggots off? +--- 58074498 +>>58073656 +Your fingernails look like sigourney weavers in alien resurrection +--- 58074619 +>>58074498 +They were Halloween nails. +--- 58074672 +>>58074619 +--- 58074749 +>>58074619 +>They were Halloween nails. +ITS A TROON +--- 58074830 +>>58074749 +Overall I think it did 8/10. +--- 58074959 +>>58073809 +Based Whiskey Rebellion enjoyer. +Fuck taxes. +--- 58075012 +>>58073781 +>its the chick from squidbillies +--- 58075073 +>>58074241 +You came to 4chan to post a report (lol wtf are you gay?) and that report didn't include basic information like what you were testing, and you didn't expect to get shit on? Are you new? +--- 58075213 +>>58074619 +>>58074672 +Did you do the toes too? Please say yes... +--- 58075625 +>>58073505 (OP) +>I absolutely smothered this gun (think the old cosmoline on Sks days) in Lubeanaons new winter formula +Anon, if you can still see the white color you used too much. There's no point in wasting money. +>>58074150 +Also this. Gun oil doesn't work when it gets rubbed off, you'll want something that creates a solid, dry film for that kind of situation so it can't be rubbed off. +However, it's nice to see an effortpost (kinda) in-between all the ukraine spam. +--- 58075656 +>>58074830 +He did it,lol. Based Anon, right now we work on a product that that is a bit out of the box. Gun Oils, doesnt matter if 5ct or expensive Coom are liquid products that suffer from capillaric effect or mechanical influence. This mean contact with fabric, rain or snow got a heavy degreasing effect just because those products are a liquid doesnt matter how stronge once the line is crossed. The new product is designed to go hard so its sealing up the surface and cant be sucked away, that means no effect from rain or snow desu. If you want try that same next winter with the new product but get some simple steel plates form home depot so there is no finish hiding rust ;) Mail me, Korbo can send you some once we got it in the states or just buy it since its cheap desu. +Also Winter formula is made for Winter and not storage, that oil can compared to the 1st Coom version from amazon while the current Coom is 2,5x the inhibitor concentration. Not sure if increased rust protection does improvents here, it should but the degree is unknown +--- 58076485 +Since im in the lab producing overbased testing compounds, i can share a image. That is a pure rustinhibitor for industrial production and storage, the good and non-toxic kind. Gun oils are limited to inhibitors that wont cause freezing so that stuff is not used for any oil i've seen from checking msds. This is a very hard and waxy substance, not a stand alone inhibitor (only a chemical within a formulation). But unlike gun oils those products arr designated to be non-liquid and rather like very soft candle wax so they survive outdoor storage or even exposed to weather storage in a few cases, the all liquid industry products are rated for shelter storage limited to 8-12months which is Coomoil V2 . OP tested something impossible to survive, not his fault desu. There are no products on the current market that withstand a few days of rain or storage under snow, only the designated thick film inhibitors like that aerosol from CRC and undercoating can. But those products suck ass if used on guns or cause allergic skin reactions which is shit. Soon we bring it out and im givung out a instruction how to prep steel for rust testing and how to design a test so the outcome is somehow usable. I would love to see testing results from around the USA and see how its doing in the special climates :3 its out in autumn, so we see US snow tests and i hope someone does that for me and share it public +--- 58076609 +This a one of the strongest inhibitor packs from US production. Depending on formulation its used for car production on parts that never see light. Its based af but not useful for formulating something for guns. Its a solid but still flows to repair demage on the surface like you see from the parts i cutted out +--- 58076691 +Thats a special Vaseline for formulations to reach special specs. A partner of us produced a formulation that was tested and proven to be used for a nuclear power plant, im not using it because we got better solutions. I just got it,why not :) Just because something wont fit doesnt mean its not fitting for another job. For classic industrial formulations its very nice, but you guys live in states like Florida so its no option +--- 58076712 +>>58075656 +I’ve got notes and stuff to send you. With pictures. When the thread got derailed I started trolling and vague posting. It wasn’t a scientific experiment and just for fun and your product would have been perfect if I didn’t lose a barn door. +--- 58076786 +>>58076712 +I know, the old formulation (winter version from amazon) was sub 5% rust inhibitor which is pretty good while the adjustment last summer kicked its inhibitor concentration above 10% IMAO, thats massive for a gun oil so its able to be used for long term storage under indooe conditions. If you got a barn and snow you 100% need to setup a protected place outside so snow can hammer it and a sample under a roof that gets hammered by UV light and humidity, thats the worst you can do for fun amd I hope its survivig that punishment :D Thats the image i took 11h ago, its the 50th day exposed to full rain and sun. Thats what im calling designated rust inhibitor,absolute brutal result desu +--- 58076949 +>>58076786 +Dang that actually great! Yeah I’m not a scientist just an idiot electrician and part time farmer so I didn’t expect anything scientific from my results. At the end of the day the CCPs finest chinesium survived the worst winter we’ve ever had here and that’s all that matters to me. I’m glad to support a /k/ommando. +--- 58077167 +>>58073505 (OP) +I’m back from dinner. +Time for a recap due to some complaints. +>Savage 320 +>LUBEANONS coom oil +>Purchased on 9/30 +>Shot a couple hundred times with factory lube on 9/30 +>Shot again 200 times on 10/15 +>OP is a fag +>Storm destroys door on 12/23 +>Gun insta rusts. +>New coat added 12/28 +>Gun taken back out of shed 5/4 +>Gun is rusted. +>Not bad +Lubeanon has asked me to repeat it with steel which I will take him up on. +Overall I do and would continue to trust my ccw to German Bros mystery juice. +--- 58077181 +>>58077167 +Here are other guns with coom on them +--- 58077193 +>>58077181 +--- 58077341 +I expected more. KYS OP for failing +--- 58077564 +I've seen guns rusting after 2 weeks inside a save. OP stores a gun for 4 months exposed to the weather, snow and maybe rain and all we get are a few spots of rust? +--- 58078239 +>>58076786 +nta, but lubeanon do you have more up for sale yet? also you could potentially market this new heavy duty storage formula to those types that say, would consider buying a gun and burying it like a squirrel or storing it in a wall for 50 years, or just a very very long term fuddpa forgot he had that gun storage grease +--- 58078387 +>>58074005 +>The person in the picture is 120 pounds +No. +>t. 120 lbs. +--- 58078511 +>>58078239 +Fresh Coom is online at Moka´s within days, was shipped that week (I had last week in mind, sorry). Its also for EDC, but using it for save storage is the same without the need for more product to the surface. For expected long term storage or boating accidents its better to use a wetter patch and let it dry for 1-2 days before its getting packed inside foil for a nice swim ;D But next spring we add a 100mL version that is cheaper and maybe a 250-500mL prepper version inside a full metall can for storage. Not sure what someone wants to do with >250mL, thats enouth to prep 500 guns for war storage or wild stalking missions without planned cleaning times IMAO. +--- 58078599 +>>58077564 +If they're in a safe or any smallish enclosed area chuck in a Napier VP90 pack (or whatever the local equivalent is). Speaking of Napier, Silensave spray is really good too. +--- 58078756 +>>58078511 +>I'm afraid i'm not familiar with moka's store + +nevermind, I only remembered buying from amazon, as much as myself and others dislike it some advertisement of where we can find it would be good for the not terminally online. but even though this was probably old versions, I have never felt my 1897 winchester feel smoother than after I oiled it, and I've tried everything short of actually taking a stone to all of the edges of it's working surfaces, and old winchester 97's are known for their "pop" when cycling. +Good job, I look forward to your future improvements +--- 58078872 +>>58073936 +>>58073947 +Not bad. I've had worse rust with a mineral oil'd 10/22 in rain after sitting in a soft rifle case (a Ruger brand red/black 10/22 one). But now I have CRC grease on it. Still want lubeanon's lube for the bolt and trigger parts though. Fucking filthy area of the gun. +--- 58078949 +>>58075656 +>The new product is designed to go hard so its sealing up the surface and cant be sucked away, that means no effect from rain or snow desu. +>Mail me, Korbo can send you some once we got it in the states or just buy it since its cheap desu. +When's that coming? My 10/22 barrel rusts when it rains. It's especially bad since the Ruger soft case is a piece of shit; it basically has a weed fabric interior, a thin plastic sheet layer, a grey floor mat foam layer (~1") inside, then woven nylon outside. It never dries and due to the stupid plastic layer, wet guns just sit on wet fabric and it doesn't wick into the foam away from the gun. It also can't be washed because the plastic layer(s) just hold the water like a fucking bag. Oh and my 10/22 now has a heat shield for reasons of "it looks cool" so it's even harder to dry since half the barrel is covered, kek. +--- 58078972 +>>58078756 +I´ve dicedid to ignore amazon till the ugly rubber caps are improved and the brand name is patented (i cant edit my own product site without brand patent, why selling without product text?), we do everything before the rust inhibitor launches so we start at multiple webshops including amazon. The webshops also got the information that we want a 1st launch price reduction and since they agree there is no reason to buy from amazon ;) Gun owners should spend money to non-gunfriendly companies, I get that part. +>>58078872 +If you own a Ruger, the rust inhibitor might turn it into a HK or german made SIG ;) I think you mean CSC grease, should I do a rust test with it for fun? Krautanon sended me something from TOTAL +>>58078949 +Late summer or autumn. You can also put plastic foil above the foam so its not contacting the gun. Do rust inhibitor + plastic foil and I see no reason why its rusting since you reduced the conditions to humidity and thats easy. +--- 58079018 +>>58078972 +>If you own a Ruger, the rust inhibitor might turn it into a HK or german made SIG ;) +kek +>I think you mean CSC grease +Nope, CRC Sta-Lube Lithium grease, made here in PA. + +>>58078972 +>Late summer or autumn. You can also put plastic foil above the foam so its not contacting the gun. Do rust inhibitor + plastic foil and I see no reason why its rusting since you reduced the conditions to humidity and thats easy. +Last soft case I owned, a hole opened in the liner from the front sight scraping. Made it real easy to reach in and rip out the plastic sheet inside that was trapping moisture. Even made it washable too. I'll probably do it on this one as well once it gets soaked when I get caught in the rain hunting next. I have to also stop forgetting to take it out of the case once I get home. +--- 58079087 +>>58079018 +All those fucking products and i cant test them since muh fucking hazard rules :( but be aware that grease got a high risk to pick a wro g product, i had worse rusting than Ballistol with some because the lack of rust inhibitors and once rust undermines those product it spreades below the grease like cancer. Looks funny desu, i need to make a time lapse about that +--- 58079166 +>>58079087 +I just wiped it on and off. Just like you would with oil. It works for now and doesn't soak into my wood stock which is all I really need ATM until I try out the rust inhibitor stuff you're putting out later. +--- 58079308 +>>58073809 +>Whiskey Rebellion flag +Absolutely, unequivocally, based and redpilled +--- 58079699 +>>58076691 +>lubeanon playing with his food.jpg +--- 58079804 +>>58078756 +>not familiar with moka's store +https://mokasraifus.com/product/nano-gun-oil-universal-50-ml/ +You're welcome, cumrad +--- 58079894 +>>58073534 +>Lubeanon +Are you near Lebanon by any chance diff --git a/k/58074113.txt b/k/58074113.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fb960649c291588eddd51defb3dbf57345708d68 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58074113.txt @@ -0,0 +1,196 @@ +----- +--- 58074113 +Your mind is a weapon, what are you feeding it? +--- 58074183 +ive been reading dan simmons' hyperion cantos. rlly good scifi, although the first book is the best of the series. +--- 58074194 +I ADD read multiple books at once: +Overreach by Owen Matthews +The Fate of Africa by Martin Meredith (re-reading) +G-Man by Beverly Gage +1948 by David Pietrusza +--- 58074201 +>>58074113 (OP) +--- 58074208 +>>58074183 +I stopped at Endymion. Wasn't liking where it was going, and I felt satisfied with how the second book wrapped up. I wasn't interested in the adventures of loli space Jesus +--- 58074243 +>>58074208 +>loli space Jesus +I will now read this +--- 58074278 +>>58074113 (OP) +The Terminal List series was better than the book. Even with all the obnoxious flashback scenes +--- 58074295 +Anything other than a war memoir is gay. +--- 58074302 +>>58074278 +Some details I liked better on the book, but I agree that they gave Ben Edwards a better story in the series +--- 58074306 +>>58074243 +You can read it if you like, but I think the first two Hyperion books were a lot better +Just my opinion +--- 58074316 +>>58074295 +With The Old Breed is EXTREMELY good +--- 58074319 +The Holy Bible +--- 58074320 +>>58074113 (OP) +uhh +--- 58074358 +>>58074113 (OP) +>The Last Centurion is a memoir of one possible future, a world that is a darkling mirror of our own. + +>DEDICATION: +>To everyone who has ever felt they were looking out over Hadrian's Wall while Rome crumbled behind them. + +the author is an ex-paratrooper with a biology degree and in this 2008 published book of his he tells a story which main plot points include a pandemic spreading out from China in 2019 as well as the protagonist properly destroying an equipment depot hes in charge of on pullout from middle-east to prevent weapons from falling into enemy hands + +>John Ringo is considered the originator of the anti-political correctness slogan "get woke, go broke" +--- 58074369 +>>58074358 +>I don't want to have Alzheimers at 40! Besides, most flu vaccines don't even work! +--- 58074820 +a few I like +--- 58075067 +>>58074113 (OP) +This was really good. Covered the Philippine resistance, the politics, infighting, different operations, and logistics of running a guerilla organization with footnotes. +--- 58075084 +>>58074113 (OP) +You can remove 80% of the scenes from Iceland and lose nothing. +--- 58075282 +>>58074113 (OP) +Feed it better books than your junk ass pile of fiction fool. +--- 58075413 +>>58075282 +you can learn a lot from fiction if the author bakes real world history and concepts into the plot +--- 58075752 +>>58074113 (OP) +Blood Meridian +>>58074208 +I stopped at the end of the second book and the gaggle of furrys showed up and the Consul played piano +--- 58076034 +>>58075282 +Those are just the ones on top of the shelf, that have the best lighting for the photo, I just finished The Black Banners and currently halfway through Run to the sound of guns. I just like to throw fiction that has been written by knowledgeable people on the mix +--- 58076068 +Required reading for /k/ommandos +I expect your reports on my desk by the end of the month, late work will be failed unless it is accompanied by an acceptable bribe +--- 58076095 +>>58076068 +Sounds very similar to the Afghanistan Papers, that one was kind of boring in some parts, sell me this book some more anon +--- 58076164 +>>58076095 +Covers the AQI to IS pipeline, iirc talks about IS getting chem weapons from saddams old stores (might've just been my schizophrenia though it's been a few months since i finished it), debunks the 'America created IS' meme, gets into detail about early successes against Iraqis and the training/US support that turned the tide, passive aggressively rips both POTUSs a new one for limiting US troop levels to such a retardedly number + +Overall it's well written and researched, unbiased, and covers a war most sources tend to gloss over +--- 58076193 +>>58076164 +That one is going into the list then, thanks anon, you are a real one +--- 58076343 +>>58074319 +Fiction is for queers. +--- 58076427 +>>58076193 +You're welcome anon +Picrel is also a good one +--- 58076820 +>>58076164 +Thanks anon, I put it on my audiobook wishlist. Out of sheer curiosity, does the book cover the 2017 Siege of Marawi and cover ISIS being bad at its own PR? +--- 58076846 +>>58074319 +you're a faggot +--- 58077022 +>>58074113 (OP) +Meant to post some of my audiobooks. My Hitch in Hell is about a tanker in WW2 that ends up on the Bataan Death March, survives Camp O'Donnel, the Hell Ships, and his time as a slave worker in a Japanese mine. It's surprisingly a hopeful read. Rampage: MacArthur, Yamashita, and the Battle of Manila is genuinely one of my favorites and covers the Philippine conflict from 1940-1945 from MacArthur begging congress for more money and federal troops to properly augment the Philippine forces on the road to independence for 1946, to the Japanese invasion, to civilian perspectives on the occupation, to the US returning to the Philippines. I brought it up in the Navy ice cream thread when that was up: + +>American reporters cutting in line and selling their(free humanitarian) food trays to local starving Filipinos and former ex POWs for their valuables(with a story of an MP swearing he saw MacArthur beat an NYT reporter after seeing that) +>MacArthur orders anyone selling their food to the starving locals for their valuables is to be arrested immediately +>An American nurse in tears watching released POW children playing tag with a Filipino child with a blown off leg while Al Jolson plays on a projector +>The American kids purposefully slow down so the kid with one leg can tag them + +It also goes into the POV of support enlisted personnel and the infantry during the Battle of Manila. In all, highly recommend reading. Ghost Soldiers and The Great Raid are about the Raid at Cabanatuan prison camp and highlight the monumentous effort it took to liberate the camp. + +>Ranger offers to help a limping prisoner out of the camp +>"I walked off Bataan and I'm walking out of here." + +>>58075067 +This one is a recent publication. +--- 58077619 +>>58074113 (OP) +I've been enjoying it quite a lot +--- 58077929 +>>58074113 (OP) +I like history and just got into reading so this gift from a friend was perfect to start +--- 58078040 +picrel? so you're feeding your brain nothing but actual dogshit? not a very healthy diet there plebanon +--- 58078430 +>>58076820 +Been a bit since I’ve read it so I don’t remember every thing but iirc the siege is covered pretty extensively and there is a chapter about IS PR +--- 58078458 +>>58074820 +LCMS? +--- 58078490 +>>58078430 +Imagine being a new insurgent group thinking the others will back you up and the locals going, "lmao fuck no." so much so that they willingly narc your violent, homicidal ass to the police knowing full well the consequences of doing so. The lead up to that siege is absolutely comical, even with the tragedy it created. + +https://youtu.be/txUdnu1shf8 [Embed] + +>when your entire operation gets blown by some local insurgent with a GoPro +--- 58078539 +>>58078490 +That’s what you get for lining people up on the banks of the Tigris and executing them for the ‘crime’ of being caught in a uniform +--- 58078567 +>>58078458 +yup +--- 58078571 +>>58074113 (OP) +I've been lamenting that I don't read as much as I used to. I picked up A Handful of Hard Men to read on a recent trip. Really happy reading it, really cool. While browsing other books to pick up, I discovered a bunch of books based on the conflicts in Africa published by Helion, turns out they're part of a an entire series called Afirca@War and they have sister series to it for Europe and Asia. I might start picking up those books soon, the current war between Somaliland and Somalia has really piqued my interest, and I'd like to read up more on the other civil wars that occurred in Africa, not just the Rhodesian Bush War. It's all so interesting to learn about +--- 58078579 +>>58074113 (OP) +--- 58078588 +>>58074201 +--- 58078589 +>>58078539 +Yep. They were absolutely despised by the locals. Surprisingly enough, a bulk of the insurgents weren't even locals. They were Syrian, Iraqi, with like less than 100 being actual local fighters. It's why there's a lot of footage of local Imams being shot at by snipers, and even admitting on camera "I don't know who these people are, don't they recognize a local cleric when they see one?" Marawi finished its recovery about a year ago, so hopefully life mostly goes back to normal. +--- 58078605 +>>58074820 +>Capstick + +I say, good man. +--- 58078639 +>>58078567 +My brother in Christ +--- 58078652 +>>58074113 (OP) +Just read Revolt Against the Modern World. Reading Hitler the Ultimate Avatar now. +--- 58078746 +>>58078730 +--- 58078791 +>>58078639 +--- 58078890 +I'm trying my best bros :( +--- 58078954 +>>58078746 +>Cx4 Storm +>not posting a Battlestar Galactica book +disappointing, anon +--- 58079463 +>>58078589 +>Marawi finished its recovery about a year ago, so hopefully life mostly goes back to normal. + +After the hell they went through I pray you’re right +--- 58079471 +>>58075043 +Very good read, I listened to the audiobook version. +--- 58079888 +>>58074113 (OP) +Booze, mostly... +--- 58080023 +>>58079463 +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehabilitation_of_Marawi + +I don't really care what Wikipedia on the last part, imo, especially considering they didn't cite a source outside of Google Earth. People I've spoken with tell me that life has gone back to normal and jobs only got hit hard in the region due to lockdown. In some aspects, first and third world countries are not to be compared, and I'd say this would be one of them. +--- 58080052 +>>58074113 (OP) +Trying to get into naval stuff and had a carrier autist recommend this to me years ago. Finally got around to picking up a copy, what am I in for? diff --git a/k/58074185.txt b/k/58074185.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c51932d3b3dc77ec2165147b0ac69f3aef8f2355 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58074185.txt @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +----- +--- 58074185 +Thanks to human garbage leaving their own garbage everywhere, and shooting trees, shooting washing machines, and blasting around public hiking trails, most of the good spots for shooting will likely be shut down (per the 'Integrated Management of Target Shooting on the Pike National Forest' project & 'Northern Front Range Recreational Sport Shooting Management Partnership', etc). It was inevitable, I suppose. +--- 58074206 +However, not all is lost. The forest service isn't dumb, and realizes and important part of this process is dumping money into improving and expanding range options. +For instance, check out the hypothetical future look of Turkey Tracks: + +Other ranges are also getting money and overhauls. For instance, Devil's Nose shooting area should be opening any month. +--- 58074277 +>>58074185 (OP) +I guess that's fine. Funnel the city folk into well-developed and maintained ranges and leave the forests to those that know what they are doing and will pick up after themselves (ie. hunters). +Have they released info on violation penalties? +--- 58074294 +Read more: +https://sportshootingpartners.org/project-information/ +https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?project=57807 +https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?project=46910 +--- 58074374 +>>58074277 +I don't think they're changing the penalties. +--- 58074398 +By the way, the free Summit Range re-opens on the 6th. They were closed for a while for renovations. +I'll be there! + +https://summitrange.org +--- 58074446 +>>58074185 (OP) +>2015+8 +>living in the Denver metro area +--- 58074494 +>>58074185 (OP) +I went to Colorado this year and loved it so much I might move there after graduation hope things there don’t get fucked +--- 58074520 +>Westoid fags bragging about magdumping into hills get their comeuppance +Karmas a bitch and she hates gloaters +--- 58074525 +Harris park possible design. + +>>58074494 +it's an interesting mish-mash of a state. We just avoided another AWB, but some other bills got through (increasing purchasing age to 21 for rifles/shotguns, red flag stuff). And Denver is expensive. I think it is worth it though. +--- 58074548 +All federal land will be closed to shooting by 2050. Calling it now. +--- 58074570 +>>58074520 +Frontrange is fake Westchads, it's basically the Midwest. I'm not in the slightest affected by this despite living in the same state. I still get to mag dump all I want, any time I want. +--- 58074596 +>>58074548 +I think it may be for the best, and I say that as a diehard libertarian idiot. Assuming the govt builds a bunch of public shooting areas (that hopefully have omnidirectional 'dynamic' bays like some of the ones suggested by the forest service for here on the front slope) I'm all for keeping city-folk (like myself) from slowly destroying national forest space. +--- 58074624 +>>58074185 (OP) +>tragedy of the commons +Not surprised. People are collectively shit and can't be expected to behave themselves. +--- 58074630 +>"HAHA eastoids will never now the PURE JOY of magdumping into trash on public land!" +>*public land closed to shooting* +>"NOOOOO NOOOOO WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!?!?!?!?" +Wow, what's the Westoid cope going to be for this, huh? And what's it going to be when all public land in the lower 48 has a permanent shooting ban on it because white niggers couldn't clean up after themselves? But hey at least you didn't pay a range membership fee, right? +--- 58074652 +>>58074630 +How I feel knowing I still get to magdump freely on public land and will post about it and get to watch you seethe +--- 58074666 +>>58074652 +Oh is that shooting outside of an approved range I hear? Better call the rangers and tell them to fly the shotspotter drone overhead... +--- 58074685 +>>58074666 +Keep posting the dumb cope hypotheticals you have, the seethe is amazing. +--- 58074693 +>>58074630 +I buy multiple DNR passes each year since I own two vehicles. It's $30 a pop and it keeps my state's public lands running. Cope and seethe that you will never know the joy of walking in a mountain range not tainted by dipshit developers and the scum and they bring. +--- 58074694 +>>58074685 +>my seethe +Anon, you literally lost hundred of acres of shooting land because you couldn't pick up your shit. +--- 58074724 +can you guys shut up? I'm trying to have a high-quality thread here about shooting closures +--- 58074732 +>>58074694 +I haven't lost anything, this is for Denveroids. Not only do I have near unlimited public land near me to shoot on (which last weekend there was a clean up on by the town), I also have multiple free public ranges near me. +--- 58074846 +>>58074724 +Where's the fun in that anon? Probably not a lot of people are gonna post in this thread, but it's been a while since we've had a /k/olorado thread. +--- 58074917 +>>58074846 +true. +Anyways yeah I'll be at the re-opening of Summit Range on the 6th. I'll let you all know how the new facilities are (although I think all they did was add noise abatement panels)? +Need to sight in muh rifle anyways +--- 58075247 +>>58074917 +Just make a /k/olorado general thread after that, this thread is basically about only one part of the state. +--- 58075277 +>>58075247 +tbf no one really lives in the rest of the state +--- 58075297 +What's a good place to shoot near Colorado Springs? +--- 58075305 +>>58075297 +drive up to turkey tracks. gets busy as balls on Saturday / Sunday though, go on a weekday. +--- 58075447 +>>58075277 +I know, that's why the rest of the state is great. +--- 58075830 +>>58074185 (OP) +The place I go to by peaceful valley past Lyons is always packed and yeah the trash is building up there. I need to find a new place or just hike into the forests with one rifle and pistol from now on. + +I +--- 58075848 +>CIA moves to Colorado + +Am I surprised + +Hunter S. Thompson lived up in rural Colorado fun fact +--- 58075863 +>>58074206 + +Looks like a publicly funded militia training ground lol + +Cool that they will build such a detailed range + +How convenient lmao +--- 58075875 +>>58075277 +and militias are often rural, to protect farms and suburbs from political chaos in the cities +--- 58075878 +>>58074494 +Moved here from the South and it’s fucking Candyland and at this point the cost of living in Texas and Florida is the same, plus way more places to shoot my guns here. +--- 58076186 +1300 yard bay at turkey track would be awesome +--- 58076526 +>>58075863 +it looks like a normal multi purpose range facility wtf are you on? long bays, short bays, trap fields, archery. Any large shooting range has those things. +--- 58078507 +>>58075830 +coordinates? +--- 58079048 +>>58074185 (OP) +>shooting in the forest +What the fuck. Just drive out east and shoot in one of the many areas with big natural hills in the distance. +Local cops only care if you park too far off the road and squish a cactus. +--- 58079409 +>>58079048 +where, pawnee grasslands? otherwise everything out there is private. +t. onX account diff --git a/k/58074221.txt b/k/58074221.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9971de9e2e1894b0fca90fb88ae96ab3f633ad90 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58074221.txt @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +----- +--- 58074221 +Looking at the challenges faced by the Ukrainians, would it be a good idea for them to adopt the French platoon where basically everyone is a grenadier? Purely theoretical, I know there is no way to retrain and re-equip everyone right now, but did the Frogs actually have the right idea? +--- 58074239 +damn Pierre, they let everyone in your squad have sidearms? +--- 58074315 +>>58074239 +Imagine hauling all that shit around in African heat +--- 58074676 +>>58074221 (OP) +is that a squad level mortar? +--- 58074796 +>>58074676 +Yes but they are getting phase out for a traditional gl +--- 58075348 +>>58074221 (OP) +>not picking the HK417 to please the Belgians +Grim +--- 58075355 +>>58074221 (OP) +Where's drone operator? Outdated cold war shit, get it away from me +--- 58075365 +>>58074239 +It's faster to swap to a pistol than to reload your rifle. It's also faster to run with your pistol out. +--- 58075435 +>>58074221 (OP) +The mexican army does that, they give everyone in the squad a GL and iirc they train them to fire volleys +--- 58075498 +>>58074796 +Don't do it. We (Bong) did the same thing and regret it to this day regularly citing they should have kept it and that the French still use one. It was a huge mistake. +--- 58075607 +>>58074796 +It's the rifle grenades that are getting replaced, the LGI is here to stay. +--- 58076967 +>>58074221 (OP) +Why would the Frogs have such an ammo intensive loadout and then have to ask allies for airlift? Seems like they bit off more than they could chew. +--- 58077104 +>>58075348 +One day Herstal will be France again anyway. +--- 58077136 +>>58074221 (OP) +Froggos operate in different scenario. They are essentially riding and fuck hunting dozen of sandpeople. They can afford do it with some le boom-boom style + +Ukies also fight sandpeople level enemy, but enemy is spending waves , sometimes they have track ork wagons. + +I say AT4 for everyone! +--- 58077144 +>>58075498 +Afaik its only replacing the rifle grenade, although in theory rifles grenades are still a thing they won't be the standard loadout +--- 58077172 +>>58074221 (OP) +Just put squad level mortars on the IFVs. They have autonomous ones now that fire and aim for you. You can mark targets with a designator for smart munitions or with a drone. Eventually infantry men will probably be able to mark targets with their rifle fire control system/optic/rangefinder, and designate targets for UGVs that way. + +I don't really think you need to go super heavy, super high firepower for the future. You need anti-tank weapons, but for beltfeds, mortars, grenades, etc. I think squad level UGVs will be the future, especially as population declines and manpower gets hard to find. + +The UGV can field a GPMG or 20-40mm grenade launcher. One per squad or even per fire team gets you a lot of fire power, especially if the IFV is optionally manned and can bring in the autocannon and mortars and you have a supporting drone screen. You'll still want a squad belt fed, but you don't need to go overboard. +--- 58077179 +>>58076967 +Because Airbus might get its shit together and get on sith the A400M one day. +--- 58077228 +>>58077172 +Now at the platoon level autonomous 81mm mortars and 105mm field gun UGVs might be able to also give you the fire power edge. You need less people to run these, so that leaves extra time to also manage the drones, which will also get more and more autonomous. Maybe these are company level, IDK, cost is an issue and interception will get expensive. + +New smart shells and internetworked battle spaced mean you can use these to get munitions on target very quickly. EFP shells also offer the ability to hit armored vehicles with relatively less firepower, and it allows you to hit moving targets much easier due to the terminal phase being very high velocity. Newer munitions can even target weak points somewhat reliably. + +I also like the idea of mortar or field gun launched recon drones. If your shit gets taken down you can have the platoon or company send eyes in for you very quickly, then the eyes send back a targeting solution and the munitions come in on target (provided they don't get smacked down, since overlapping interception is also the future). +--- 58077298 +>>58077179 +I fucking wish, man +C-130 is getting long in the tooth +--- 58077304 +>>58074221 (OP) +>Looking at the challenges faced by the Ukrainians, would it be a good idea for them to adopt the French platoon where basically everyone is a grenadier? +You mean Mexican. The French loadout looks no more grenade focused than the US or UK. +--- 58077323 +>>58077304 +--- 58077349 +>>58074221 (OP) +>THREE riflemen in the assault team +>they're encumbered with a UGL or a rocket +like fuck they're "assaulting" at anything other than a lumbering walk +--- 58079702 +peak squad loadout +--- 58079735 +>>58079702 +nah, this is peak +--- 58079896 +>>58079735 +>hey dawg I heard you liked FALs +--- 58081834 +>>58079702 +Pathetic diff --git a/k/58074336.txt b/k/58074336.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2e8357773f2ecc812f295641f22b0378b33ec69f --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58074336.txt @@ -0,0 +1,126 @@ +----- +--- 58074336 +Alligators seem like rather pleasant animals for being 14 foot predators and can take pretty low temperatures in stride as they used to range as far north as Kentucky, Illinois and Tennessee. + +Would they make effective guard animals for a moat? +--- 58074386 +>>58074336 (OP) +Probably not. + +Gators are pretty chill, at least the ones bred in captivity. It’s a weird large reptile thing that the ones that are born in captivity are incredibly tame, the same things happens with Komodo dragons and other monitor lizards. Crocodiles are the exception as they’re bastards pretty much all the time. + +Gators are also smarter than most people realize, they’ve been observed setting traps in the form of bringing sticks out into lakes and waiting for birds to land on them. They also can learn their names and respond to being called. I don’t think you can train them to guard something though. As that would need you to train them for an aggressive response to a specific target which I don’t think is doable for them. If anything they would be good intimidation even if they’re just lounging around all day waiting for you to feed them. + +So I guess you could theoretically create the illusion of guard gators just by having them and demonstrating that they recognize their names. +--- 58074475 +>>58074386 +I don’t even know if they are good predators. Almost every alligator attack involves an 80 year old woman +--- 58074531 +>>58074475 +No they’re very effective in their niche, they just don’t go after things human sized or larger normally. + +But like I said, you could create an illusion of guard gators. Most people think gator=dangerous, which they are they’re wild predators with super strong jaws, but they overestimate how aggressive they are. And if you demonstrate that they respond to their names those same people would go “oh shit he’s got them trained”. Therefore the vast majority of people wouldn’t go near the area if they think there are trained guard gators there. +--- 58074607 +>>58074336 (OP) +Good for guarding sailing yachts. +--- 58074612 +This thread is a croc of shit +--- 58074631 +>>58074336 (OP) +No, they are ambush predators +We use dogs because they can be used offensively and defensively. Gators can just sit and wait +--- 58075871 +>>58074531 +You could probably take advantage of their feeding behavior to use them as actual guard animals. They're most dangerous when hungry, so if you always feed them from the outside of the moat and keep multiple groups so you can rotate fed gators out so it's always hungry gators in the moat, they'd be pretty dangerous to anything that gets in that water. +That's a big complicated schedule that would involve a lot of expert gator keepers though. More expensive and less effective than many other security solutions +--- 58075940 +>>58075871 +If you're some eccentric billionaire I'd say it's worth maintaining an image by paying gator handlers instead of some security firm. +--- 58075966 +No alligators are pretty docile. There’s a retention pond 30 feet from my front door and they always shy away when you get too close to them. They are dangerous to small children and the elderly +--- 58075992 +>>58074336 (OP) +That's a weird fucking Lacoste ad. +--- 58076107 +>>58074336 (OP) +>they used to range as far north as Kentucky, Illinois and Tennessee. +Source???? +--- 58076125 +>>58075940 +Gator moat strikes me as more of a "meth head with a shovel and all the time in the world to dig gator trenches" thing than an eccentric billionaire thing. +--- 58076321 +>>58076107 +https://www.tn.gov/twra/wildlife/reptiles/alligators.html#:~:text=Occasionally%20they%20will%20feed%20on,allows%20them%20to%20continue%20breathing. +--- 58076349 +>>58076125 +If you're doing the hungry gator rotation thing you're probably gonna need eccentric billionaire money instead of Billybob Joe's two tooth solution +--- 58076357 +>>58074336 (OP) +>Would they make effective guard animals for a moat? +just putting a sign that warns about alligators would keep most from swimming across +--- 58076369 +>>58074386 +>Gators are also smarter than most people realize, they’ve been observed setting traps +--- 58076384 +>>58076321 +Why does it look like he has shades? +--- 58076399 +>>58076369 +No one ever said their prey was smart +--- 58076424 +>>58076369 +>that slow close followed by [realization] from the bird +That bird is too dumb to live. +--- 58076428 +>>58074386 +So you're telling me the ones that say See you later are the cool chill ones, and the ones that say In a while are the ones that fuck you up? +--- 58076583 +I think snakes would be better. Whe. Situating my honeybees I decided to put them between the driveway and house right out front. Alotnof people are scared shitless of them even though as long as you don’t know the hives over they won’t bother you. +--- 58076623 +>>58076369 +based Archosauria purging stupidity from the bloodline +--- 58076689 +>>58076583 +>Alotnof people are scared shitless of them +Yeah, I'm one of those people, asshole. Fuck anything that flies and has a stinger. +--- 58076802 +>>58074336 (OP) +They're unpredictable, in the worst of ways. They'll do anything from completely ignore you, to the point of bumping into you and acting suprised. Shit themselves fleeing from you, or go full on balls to the wall attack mode. I love Gators as animals, but I recognize their brains and method of thinking are so alien to mammals in geneal.. let alone humans +>t. Swamp anon +--- 58079525 +>>58074336 (OP) +1. Crocodilians are basically cold-blooded shitbulls—even if they seem chill, it's only a matter of time before they decide not to be. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Rpsu-Q5js [Embed] +2. Yeah, they'd probably be fine moat hazards, as long as you had a steady supply of small livestock to keep them fed, but not so fed that they weren't interested in eating intruders. A delicate balance that I doubt anybody who needs to ask is up to the task of maintaining. +--- 58079537 +>>58076424 +they got tiny lil brains and the gator is a carnivore +--- 58079583 +>>58076802 +We got em down here and if you feed em meat they can get pretty playful and friendly, and if raised in captivity they are chill as pets. +--- 58079624 +>not taking the wasp/bee-pill + +Gators might not eat a human. Bees and wasps WILL attack a human in their territory. If you make their territory also your territory, you have a natural guard tower. + +Also, dogs. Just use dogs, if you MUST have a moat, jellyfish are the better bet. +--- 58080115 +>>58079624 +They can also recognize human faces as a side effect of their own facial recognition system for hive politics. Its why only certain family members get stung lol +--- 58080616 +>>58079624 +>Bees and wasps WILL attack a human in their territory +nah, they only attack you +--- 58080747 +>>58074336 (OP) +Yeah, alligators are so friendly. I'm sure that half this thread isnt filled with them. +--- 58080765 +>>58079624 +>moat with jellyfish +i like it +--- 58080788 +>>58074336 (OP) +I'm sure you could full on train crows to not only warn you of approaching strangers, but to even effectively communicate how many and whether they're armed. +--- 58081347 +>>58074336 (OP) +GOT AN ALLIGATOR I AIN'T TALKING LACOSTE, UH diff --git a/k/58074443.txt b/k/58074443.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..65d23f37d36cd863e491f7fd8f71930bc32270f3 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58074443.txt @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +----- +--- 58074443 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasT76pheak [Embed] + +Now THIS is pod racing +--- 58074772 +>>58074443 (OP) +Did the dude just beam that chick with a flash? +--- 58075178 +>>58074443 (OP) +Looks like fun desu +--- 58075377 +>>58075178 +Yeah son, only people who haven't been IN THE SHIT actually think this.... let's see if you're still mouthin' off after a couple tours in DA NANG!!!! Semper fi!!! + + +-------- +Charlie "Chucklefuck" Baggins +United States Marine Corps +Gunnery Sergeant 1966 - 1972 +Over 432,111 bags of scrambled eggs cooked +OORAH!!!! +--- 58075511 +>>58074443 (OP) +>3:43 +--- 58075546 +>>58074772 +Vibe checked her flashbang dubs +--- 58075579 +> Video quality + +fucking hell, how did you millennials watch this shit? I literally can't see shit. And you guys whine about Vtanik quality lol fucking pathetic +--- 58075580 +>>58074772 +--- 58075603 +>>58075579 +Your parents sextape of your conception looks like this +--- 58075621 +>>58074443 (OP) +> NATO chuds complain about Vatnik videos +What do you think you guys look like when you post this shit? + +/k/ would have been on Iraq's side + +War on terror fags are the same as Russians today +--- 58075646 +>>58074772 +--- 58075675 +>>58075579 +This video was filmed 16 fucking years ago and yet they all have high quality optics, IR devices, and a white light. Russia still can't even issue optics. Also they have real body armor instead of airsoft tactical vests from wish.com and real night vision goggles. +--- 58075721 +>>58075621 +Bro like 50% of /k/ enlisted in the hopes of doing shit like this. Are you fucking retarded? +--- 58075756 +>>58075675 +Bro, the Pentagon "loses track" of trillions of dollars, and the USA has the largest GDP in the world. It truly is the global military hegemon. Some slick NODs and gucci gear for special forces is like buying some chicken nuggets to them. +--- 58075779 +>>58075721 +Lot of dudes who actually did this on the street or offed themselves, put yourself in their shoes. Sometimes people slotted the women and kids, and it looks like it could be a modern home in the West really. If you love America, and you don't get filtered for Airborne, you don't want to be the bad guy. But they send you on a mission that makes you the bad guy, fucks you up on a mental level. If you've dropped some fucking kids and their moms in CQB. War is no fucking joke. +--- 58075799 +>>58075779 + +The only thing that seems to help these vets is Jesus + +The government doesn't give a shit, so many of them are homeless + +https://theintercept.com/2016/06/01/pentagon-special-ops-killing-of-pregnant-afghan-women-was-appropriate-use-of-force/ +--- 58077398 +>>58075178 +Whenever you see combat videos, its important to note that a 5 min video is usually the highlights of an 8 hour firefight, and for soldiers who are on a high intensity frontline its 49.9% digging fighting positions and 49.9% sitting in fighting positions. +--- 58077421 +>>58075621 +There is no humane way to raid a building. Still not as bad as vatnigs though. +--- 58078859 +>>58075756 +I thought it was billions, not trillions diff --git a/k/58074468.txt b/k/58074468.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d35d19482e90082be7bc92557616491cfab713b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58074468.txt @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +----- +--- 58074468 +Everything else aside, what is the most fun firearm you've ever used? +--- 58074500 +>>58074468 (OP) +beretta model 70 in 22lr +sold it to my 1/2 bro +big mistake +--- 58074542 +Probably my desert eagle or Brown Bess. +Both are just absolute and total condensed, shooting joy for the sake of shooting joy. Absolute unapologetic fun. +--- 58074711 +>>58074468 (OP) +The most fun at one time would be my mosin. The first time I shot it was probably the most fun I've ever had. +Overall would be my rough rider. Ammo's cheap enough that it's my most shot gun +--- 58074750 +>>58074468 (OP) +It's a tossup between busting clays with shotguns and muzzleloaders. +--- 58074759 +>>58074468 (OP) +Beretta CX4 or Ruger GP100 with .38 wadcutter +I have extremely high hopes for clay, which, god willing, I'll be finally able to try in June +--- 58074783 +>>58074759 +Shooting moving targets is fun as fuck. +--- 58074787 +>>58074783 +yeah I reckon +I bought my O/U in January and didn't even get the chance to shoot it once since +--- 58074810 +>>58074468 (OP) +A M2 .30 Carbine on full giggle. +--- 58074845 +>>58074468 (OP) +My uncle's .50ae deagle +--- 58074862 +>>58074468 (OP) +What the fuck is that, why does it exist, and where can I get one? +--- 58074873 +>>58074862 +Destiny +--- 58074881 +>>58074468 (OP) +Suppressed 300bo sbr. +--- 58074883 +>>58074862 +It's a Mateba Unica-6, Italians, gunbroker +--- 58075561 +PTR mp5 clone. + +something something roller delayed something. It's like shooting a buttery ar-15 +--- 58076721 +>>58074468 (OP) + +MG3, the Italian MG42 copy + +Even changed the barrel after the belt was done. +--- 58077105 +>>58074468 (OP) +M2 at knob creek +--- 58077534 +>>58074468 (OP) +MG3 fixed mount, it's just so much fun. +L/44, because pure sex. +--- 58079925 +FA MP5, also had fun doing FA mag dumps on folded stock AK during senpai course. +--- 58080073 +Went to a range in Poland where I got to fire a few mags through a Mac-10 done up with a suppressor and a ridiculous 32x scope like the one from Escape From New York. It was silly, it was ridiculous, I has a lot of fun with it. +--- 58080233 +>>58074468 (OP) +A malfunctioning Marlin model 60 that liked to run full auto. +--- 58080245 +M249 simply because all ammo and maintenance cost was fulfilled by the American tax payers. +However shooting clays with any clean breaking over/under is by far the most fun I can have shooting. +--- 58080337 +>>58074468 (OP) +ksg +--- 58080431 +SKS + chest rig and stripper clips +--- 58080456 +My 9mm Tokarev is an absolute piece of shit, but is fun as fuck to shoot when it can get through two mags without malfunctioning. Something about the action just feels really light and fun to me. Shooting clays is a very close second, go get a shotgun and try it if you haven't. +--- 58080487 +My childhood Ruger 10/22 +--- 58080494 +>>58074468 (OP) +Blasting buckshot through my 590 is just plain fun +--- 58080533 +>>58074468 (OP) +Any quality bolt action precision rifle in a major caliber. I had a nice Savage set up in an aftermarket stock, Atlas bipod and a tits scope. Nothing greater satisfaction than sailing a round through the bull at 1000 yards with no warm up shots or "walking it in." +--- 58080596 +>>58074468 (OP) +Ruger AC556 that my brother in law brought to the farm from the police department one weekend +--- 58080640 +>>58074468 (OP) +Full auto tommy gun in Las Vegas +--- 58080711 +>>58074468 (OP) +Saiga iz-240 converted to a standard Ak74M w a red dot, it has a ALG enhanced trigger, and is like a laser. +--- 58080717 +>>58074468 (OP) +A .25 caliber black powder rifle my dad got when I was little, one of my earliest memories is shooting it, I was about 4, maybe closer to 5, then. I remember my dad had set it up on a card table with a chair so I could sit and shoot it, probably loaded it really light. He helped me aim, showed me how set triggers work. I shot a shaken-up 2 liter from probably 35 feet away, it exploded in a huge spray, and there was delicious black powder smoke everywhere. I was shaking with excitement, felt like I had the power of a god in my hands. That's the most fun I've ever had shooting. Been chasing that high ever since. +--- 58080738 +tossup between my wasr with tapco trigger (remember them?) that's so light and nice it's literally effortless to bumpfire, and my 10 inch hiderless ar that is a lil fireball and concussion generator. +--- 58080759 +>>58080738 +oh forgot, runner up is a fa p90 at the range solely because I did a 50 round dump and it was so soft and controllable it felt like a 22 but without the 1200 rpm rof auto 22s usually have +--- 58080817 +>>58080073 +>yuropoor +Thanks for shitting up my board +--- 58080829 +my 308 Hellmouth +especially since it can go really fast +;) +--- 58080838 +Ruger 10/22. The MP5 in full auto is also a blast. +--- 58080843 +PTR91 +It’s loud, chunky, brass goes everywhere, and you get to hk slap. +Super Blackhawk is a close runner up. +--- 58080849 +Either slam firing my Winchester model 12, or plinking at 700m with my buddies 6.5 sneedmoor stag-10 diff --git a/k/58074794.txt b/k/58074794.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..bdda4663f554e3e610f61a5eb11f91ad7151050c --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58074794.txt @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@ +----- +--- 58074794 +>Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless (Concealed Carry) +>Winchester 1897 Riot Gun (Home Defense) +>M1 Carbine (Primary) +>S&W Model 27 (Secondary) +>Winchester M70 (hunting) +>Henry 1860 in .22 (plinking) + +Explain right now why this isn't your setup +--- 58074963 +>>58074794 (OP) +1897 is kewl, but if im being honest, it shoots worse than a maverick 88. +--- 58075726 +>heirloom piece +Lmao +>rickety clankety bring pliers for stuck shells +I've got two and they're novelties at best +>dude where's my ammo +Collectors piece +>full size .357 +Every American needs one +>bog standard bolt +See above +>.22 +See above +--- 58075879 +>>58074794 (OP) +Because I don't own any of those firearms. The aesthetic you've described is cool though. +--- 58075953 +>>58074794 (OP) +Replace 1903 with 1908 +Replace 1897 with Model 12 +--- 58076041 +>>58074794 (OP) +Broomstick is more age appropriate and superior to the S&W +--- 58076607 +>>58076041 +Silence twink +--- 58080469 +>>58074794 (OP) +>Because I carry a single-action army clone instead +>I defend my home with a 7mm Mauser +>What the fuck is a primary and a secondary? I have guns, and I do not rank them. Except for my Armi San Marcos. That one is last. +>Hunt with a trapdoor springfield. +>Plink with a .32-20, because fuck rimfire. +--- 58080485 +>>58074963 +What don't you like about it? +--- 58080625 +>>58074794 (OP) +Hey pops, not sure if you know what current year is but the coloreds can vote now +--- 58081488 +>>58080625 +>the coloreds can vote now +It's so unbelievably over diff --git a/k/58074854.txt b/k/58074854.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a381cc2c5708633228d42e752dac13cd46d9c1e5 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58074854.txt @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +----- +--- 58074854 +He might have a bubba’d gun but this boomer is pretty good at point shooting +https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EQQnkUGIk [Embed] +--- 58074871 +I wish we could still get cheap Mauser broomhandles. This was supposed to be something home cnc machines could do! REEEEEEEEEE +--- 58075750 +>>58074871 +yes for those 1000s and 1000s of home CNC machines that are willing to churn out mauser +--- 58075761 +>>58074871 +>>This was supposed to be something home cnc machines could do! +>this anon doesn't have a 3-ton vertical/horizontal 5-axis CNC milling machine at home +LMAO, loser. +pic unrelated. +--- 58075857 +>>58075761 +Post the whole thing at least +--- 58075902 +>>58075761 +leave bober alone +--- 58075968 +>>58075902 +KURWA BÓBR! +--- 58075977 +>>58075857 +Thanks! I didn't have the full photograph. +--- 58076027 +>>58074854 (OP) +MICULEK ? +HE IS SLAVIC... +--- 58076063 +>>58076027 + +IIRC Miculek is a surname of Croatian origin +--- 58076102 +>>58075857 +that's not the full thing either +--- 58076123 +>>58075761 +>>58075857 +QRD? +Is this painting a colonial era shitpost or did the natives and colonists really team up against Beavers? +--- 58076261 +>>58076102 +It's the full painting. +Unless you want to go to Montreal and see the full 8'x7' original. +--- 58078610 +>>58076123 +It was a war where the Danes armed the Iroquois to commit genocide against the local tribes, and secure beaver hunting rights throughout the great lakes. I don't know anything about the artist, but I'm 99% certain those beavers are actually supposed to represent all the tribes the Iroquois confederation wiped out with extreme brutality, though they also devastated the beaver populations terribly. +--- 58078620 +>>58078610 +>Danes +Huh, I meant Dutch, weird brain fart. +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_Wars +--- 58078626 +>>58074854 (OP) +Even if Jerry didn't fire first, he would still kill first. +--- 58078642 +>>58078610 +That fat ass white dude in Pocahontas was right all along, THE'YRE SAVAGES +--- 58080613 +>>58078610 +If I had a time machine, I'd go back and arm the beavers with machine guns, because I hate the Dutch and I also hate people who viciously beat on animals with sticks, such as the Iroquois and Hondurans. +--- 58080713 +>>58080613 +>viciously beat on animals with sticks, such as the Iroquois and Hondurans. +Not all animals are alike. A man who beats a dog is human trash, but I wouldn't necessarily think less of a man for beating a rat, a snake, or a Honduran. +--- 58080722 +>>58080713 +Rats are basically just puppies that fit in your pocket, and unless the snake is attacking you, I would look down on you for beating it with a stick. Empathy is what separates us from the animals and the Hondurans. +--- 58080862 +>>58075857 +Total Beaver Death +Kill beavers. Behead beavers. Roundhouse kick a beaver into the concrete. Slam dunk a beaver baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy castors. Defecate in a beavers food. Launch beavers into the sun. Stir fry beavers in a wok. Toss beavers into active volcanoes. Urinate into a beavers gas tank. Judo throw beavers into a wood chipper. Twist beavers heads off. Report beavers to the IRS. Karate chop beavers in half. Curb stomp pregnant black beavers. Trap beavers in quicksand. Crush beavers in the trash compactor. Liquefy beavers in a vat of acid. Eat beavers. Dissect beavers. Exterminate beavers in the gas chamber. Stomp beaver skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate beavers in the oven. Lobotomize beavers. Mandatory abortions for beavers. Grind beaver fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown beavers in fried chicken grease. Vaporize beavers with a ray gun. Kick old beavers down the stairs. Feed beavers to alligators. Slice beavers with a katana. +--- 58080866 +>>58078642 +BARELY EVEN LEGAL wait what were the lyrics +--- 58081064 +>>58076063 + well yes, but actually not. + Miculek is of Polish descent +--- 58081071 +>>58080722 +Rats will sneak into your house and shit on your tables if you let them diff --git a/k/58074869.txt b/k/58074869.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e605923f0593cece074e919197260ac6686cefad --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58074869.txt @@ -0,0 +1,252 @@ +----- +--- 58074869 +Post a cropped gun image. Others have to guess what it is +--- 58074931 +>>58074869 (OP) +i've been staring at this pic for 5 minutes... + +utas uts15? +--- 58074952 +>>58074931 +Nope +--- 58074976 +>another god damn smartgun thread +Reminder +>>58074931 +NEOSTEAD 2000 +--- 58074999 +>>58074976 +You have to leave an image to guess on too. +--- 58075033 +>>58074999 +Yeah hold on, let me just post 2 images in one reply +--- 58075034 +>>58074869 (OP) +--- 58075045 +>>58075033 +anderson wheeler mark 7 +--- 58075059 +>>58074869 (OP) +--- 58075123 +>>58074869 (OP) +Faggot gun +>>58074931 +>>58074976 +>NEOSTEAD 2000 +That's a new one to me +>>58075034 +Kimber K6s +>>58075033 +Already said but c'mon that's easy +>>58075059 +Mauser C96, can't get more specific I know there's different variants but I don't care enough to look up which one this is specifically +>>58075064 +C'mon people I get potato resolution but at least make it larger. Fuck if I know, looks like an indent but super small like from an H&K P9 but I don't think it's that. +--- 58075130 +>>58075059 +C96 +--- 58075159 +>>58074869 (OP) +--- 58075189 +>>58075159 +Clearly it's a girsan regard +--- 58075316 +>>58075123 +>>58075130 +Okay, that one was too distinctive to hide +Here’s a better challenge +--- 58075339 +>>58075316 +enfield no.2 +--- 58075346 +>>58075339 +>when everyone is better at recognition than you +--- 58075490 +>>58075159 +>READ NIGGA, READ!!! +beretta 92 series +--- 58075507 +>>58075159 +Is that a PAMAS? +>>58075316 +>>58075339 +>>58075346 +Are you saying he's wrong? Looks like an Enfield no. 2 to me. +>>58075490 +K31, are you even trying? +--- 58076134 +>>58075507 +>>58075316 +No he’s very right. +I’m just embarrassed because everyone else is better at this than me. +It is an enfield +--- 58076315 +Ok +--- 58076968 +>>58076315 +That's a doozy, Vz. 52, but I had to dig to find it, certainly not one I can recall off the top of my head. +--- 58077286 +>>58077158 +That's the muzzle to the G41M isn't it? The extremely autistic design Mauser made following German rules +--- 58077306 +>>58074869 (OP) +--- 58077455 +>>58077286 +You are indeed correct, the gas trap is kinda distinct +--- 58077475 +>>58077011 +Definitely Swiss, K11? +--- 58077774 +>>58076968 +Nice + +There should be enough in this pic to ID it +--- 58077802 +>>58077306 +Hellion +--- 58077967 +>>58077158 +This prob a regard take, but Colt Monitor? +--- 58078176 +>>58077774 +Some flavor of Colt SAA? +--- 58078358 +>>58078349 +Spastic 12 +--- 58078419 +>>58078176 +It is a Colt, but not a SAA +--- 58078431 +>>58078349 +I’d know that sexy stamped metal anywhere. +--- 58078435 +>>58078358 +I know that gun. +--- 58078449 +>>58078358 +Colt 1903 pocket hammerless. +--- 58078459 +>>58078297 +>IT WALKS AMONG US ONCE MORE +--- 58078479 +>>58078419 +k43 +--- 58078496 +>>58078358 +>>58078435 +Both colt pocket hamerless('s?) +--- 58078504 +>>58078431 +TFW you'll never operate with the sexiest yet possibly worst shotgun ever devised +--- 58078543 +>>58078504 +TFW when your LGS had a LAW12 tactical for $760 and you didn’t get it. +--- 58078545 +>>58078496 +Close enough, mine is actually a 1908 on .380, but that's damn near impossible to tell from that pic. + +That looks like an AUG barrel + + +>>58078479 +Yepppp +--- 58078554 +>>58077967 +>>58077286 +--- 58078559 +>>58078543 +I will weep for you anon +--- 58078606 +>>58078545 +Yeah it's an AUG + +No clue what gun that is tho :) +--- 58078818 +>>58078559 +I was able to buy my old PD issue West German P228 for $130 and I inherited Grandma’s first year Colt Diamondback so I’ve used all my good deal karma. +--- 58079040 +>>58078176 +This one is killing me. +--- 58079272 +>>58079040 +>>58078176 +It looks like a vz61 to me +--- 58079406 +>>58079272 +Yep, it's a Czech commercial production one so it doesn't have the rate reducer in the pistol grip +--- 58079486 +>>58074869 (OP) +assault rifle +>>58074931 +assault rifle +>>58075033 +assault rifle +>>58075034 +assault rifle +>>58075059 +assault rifle +>>58075064 +assault rifle +>>58075159 +assault rifle +>>58075316 +assault rifle +>>58075490 +assault rifle +>>58076315 +assault rifle +>>58077011 +assault rifle +>>58077158 +assault rifle +>>58077306 +assault rifle +>>58077774 +assault rifle +>>58077802 +assault rifle +>>58077967 +assault rifle +>>58078176 +assault rifle +>>58078297 +assault rifle +>>58078315 +assault rifle +>>58078349 +assault rifle +>>58078358 +assault rifle +>>58078419 +assault rifle +>>58078431 +assault rifle +>>58078435 +assault rifle +>>58078444 +assault rifle +>>58078496 +assault rifle +>>58078545 +assault rifle +>>58078606 +assault rifle +>>58078818 +assault rifle +>>58079406 +assault rifle +--- 58079517 +kill yourself +--- 58079523 +>>58079486 + +I see you majored in journalism as well +--- 58079653 +>>58079406 +A P-01 or a BD. I guess it could also be a sp-01 with a decocker +--- 58079813 +>>58079653 +Close enough, it's a PCR +--- 58080634 +>>58079653 +assault rifle diff --git a/k/58075029.txt b/k/58075029.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a4374b199a45fcf3c02120f02f95ee0827aaef41 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58075029.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1056 @@ +----- +--- 58075029 +Alibaba and the Forty Thieves Pt. 2 +--- 58075042 +>>58075029 (OP) +Previous: >>58068479 → +--- 58075057 +In for next gen cans +--- 58075060 +In4 11.5 gpr’s. +--- 58075062 +>>58075029 (OP) +First for Ash. +--- 58075071 +>>58075057 +How is it? What's the backpressur like? +--- 58075089 +>>58075071 +I wish I could tell you, that pic isn't mine. This guy says the backpressure is significantly reduced over the older qdc +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPIwIVp7Xfg [Embed] +--- 58075091 +>>58075060 +>posts mk18 +11.5 is a fedlength +--- 58075103 +How thicc is too thicc for a chest rig or placard setup before going prone becomes an issue, realistically? +--- 58075106 +>>58075029 (OP) +Are lawl folding stock adapters a meme? +--- 58075120 +>>58075103 +That right there is too thiccc +--- 58075129 +>>58075091 +>its a fed length +Not a valid crit. If theres one thing feds know its how to effectively eliminate threats. 11.5 gpr’s are the future while 11.5 mini recce remains gay. +--- 58075150 +>>58075129 +What makes it a "gpr" in your opinion? +--- 58075153 +>>58075089 +>Law folder +Fuckin ruined +--- 58075157 +>driving a scum transmission vehicle +Sad +--- 58075172 +>>58075103 +Anything bulkier than double stacked mags.As long as you can bring the chest rig up closer to your face it's a non issue. +--- 58075202 +>>58075120 +It's an extreme example, yeah. I used to have a Spiritus Micro Fight Mk4 that was something like 3" thick which wasn't too bad, but I realized that if I ever threw it on a plate carrier, I would have 4" of thickness in front of my chest. Hitting the dirt and being 4" off the ground didn't sound great. +--- 58075222 +>>58075202 +It's not great, but it's doable. You can also get the option of double stack mags without the bulk when empty by putting a BFG 10 Speed infront of the back normal mag pouches. +--- 58075225 +>>58075057 +That sig looks shmexy af +--- 58075232 +>>58075150 +Itll have an elcan on it. +--- 58075238 +>>58075232 +Are you going to stack a dot on it? It will be needed for passive aiming +--- 58075279 +In for porous end caps +--- 58075311 +>shmexy af +Shut the fuck up you gay retard +--- 58075380 +>>58075029 (OP) +which companies create good & durable (will need to last >20k rounds) uppers +--- 58075390 +>>58075380 +DD, KAC +--- 58075404 +>>58075380 +2 PSA's (which will still be half the cost) +--- 58075417 +test +--- 58075426 +>>58075417 +U FAIL +--- 58075547 +For my niggas drinking Cognac +Smoking weed, always pack +More than one firearm, chrome rims, riding on +Chronic in your system, let me know my shit's the bomb +--- 58075568 +>>58075547 +The mk18 fears the 416 +--- 58075585 +>>58075062 +Never had a deep fried burger before, but it wasn't bad +--- 58075592 +>>58075585 +What the actual fuck +--- 58075660 +>>58075322 → +--- 58075677 +>>58075660 +>5'9" +King of the chinese. +--- 58075714 +>>58075103 +Is this some kind of color filter what camo is that? +--- 58075735 +>>58075380 +FN, Geissele, DD, BCM, KAC, Colt, SOLGW, TRIARC, and there's a few in missing. Basically any decent AR company with decent QC should last you to 20k. Building is only worth it if you have very specific job or want specific performance out of your rifle +--- 58075772 +>>58075547 +We gonna ride that fat cock +Make all the bitches jealous, non-stop +You've got a fat cock, and it's always hard +I want to ride it, in my backyard +You say you're married, but I don't care +I'll be your mistress, if you dare +You can stroke it, all night long +I'll take it deep, I won't do you wrong +We can keep it, a secret tight +--- 58075775 +>>58075129 +Are ARs with barrel lengths longer than 11.5" obsolete given new loads like mk262? Should a longer barrel just be reserved for 308? +--- 58075784 +>>58075311 +Dont be a sour puss there little bitch, shmile you shmexy gunt +--- 58075795 +>>58075585 +So they copied a crispy chicken sandwich but with beef, oh. +--- 58075803 +>dONt be a SouR PUsS THERE liTtle BITCh, SHMILe yOu ShMExY Gunt +Imagine being an adult male and writing out this gay shit. What a pathetic noguns faggot. +--- 58075806 +>>58075775 +5.56 was always a short barrel type kind of ammo +--- 58075818 +Just got a VCOG for 1.3k and I like it velly much +--- 58075819 +>>58075714 +Looks like a photo filter. Might actually be multicam arid. +--- 58075845 +>>58075775 +>new loads +>Mk 262 +kek +--- 58075853 +>>58075775 +no +--- 58075864 +>>58075775 +Yes. +--- 58075889 +>>58075775 +I wouldn't say obsolete, but heavier bullets make 11.5" and 12.5" much more usable as a GPR for a "concerned citizen" vs the traditional 14.5"-16" running M193 and M855. + +Really the remaining thing to consider with the shorter barrels is bullet drop and knowing your holds. Past 200 yards is where I really need to start thinking about holdovers with my 11.5" running heavy OTMs and whatnot. +--- 58075890 +>>58075853 +>>58075864 +CONSENSUS MUST BE REACHED +--- 58075917 +>>58075890 +Dubs say no +--- 58075920 +>>58075889 +People who aren't in the military actually run m193s and m855s? Why? Huh? What is the point? Hollow points/soft ballistic tips is just as barrier blind as those shit training rounds +--- 58075931 +>>58075819 +I'm thinking it's arid too. I would really like something that looks like the pic for fall/winter here though. +--- 58075933 +>>58075920 +It's cheap +Fite me bitch +--- 58076001 +>>58075920 +You wouldn't believe how many conversations I still see online in which the fragmentation velocity thresholds for M193 and M855 come up. Like, I get it, everyone's got a ton of basic bitch 55gr FMJ, but it shouldn't be your primary consideration for ammo anymore. Even worse, people often still couch these arguments in "home defense" scenario nonsense -- distances that any garbage steel case will be effective at. I don't know who they think they're fooling with that crap, lol. + +There are soft points out there that will reliably fragment down to 1800fps. Anyone pissing away money stacking M193 for "SHTF" is a boomer idiot. +--- 58076078 +>>58075129 +I like the ten and a half inches. I like the Sig optic +--- 58076114 +Arfcom wouldn't let me register lmfao +--- 58076139 +>>58076114 +>that grip +proof gatekeeping works +--- 58076146 +>>58076078 +Idc +--- 58076216 +>>58076001 +Would stacking m193 and mk262 in a 1:1 ratio be a good idea? +--- 58076229 +>>58076114 +Fuck their email shit, only thing stopping me from roasting them old fucks alive +--- 58076247 +>>58076216 +It's fine as long as they're separated, combined it makes mustard gas. +--- 58076251 +>>58076216 +Probably not + +>>58076146 +Boy if you don't get your bitch ass outta my face I'mma spit on it +--- 58076254 +>>58076139 +How new are you +--- 58076291 +Are the regular B5 Bravo stocks any good? +--- 58076298 +>>58076229 +Well nevermind, I just checked my burner email I made and they sorted me out. I wanted to ask them if the somogear units have a torque spec to top rail, mine lost zero by 2 clicks after 100 rds but it was only torqued to 20 inch lbs. Trying 30 inch lbs now and gonna test it again sometime next week. They have a fucking almost 30 page thread on the somochang LAM +--- 58076310 +>>58076229 +The conversations on arfcom are no less intelligent than the ones on /k/. Hell, manufacturers and retailers will actually post on arfcom, but wouldn't be caught dead here, even the ones we generally like. +--- 58076336 +>>58076298 +Fucking poors should've just spent the grand and save them a grands worth of time just to see if airsoft shit is really shit +Someone get my 20ft submersible Perst 4w and VZOR 4 shipped to the states already +--- 58076338 +>>58076310 +The fact that arfcom doesn't have a mentally ill man screeching about a black gear maker makes it far better for actual discussion. +--- 58076339 +>>58076291 +They're essentially the SOCOM stocks with the battery storage deleted (and thus less of a slope for cheekweld). They're fine. +--- 58076417 +>>58076291 +It's no Lakota but it's ok +--- 58076452 +>>58076437 +You will never have her curves. +--- 58076478 +>>58076452 +Cope. I finished my transition months ago. +--- 58076501 +>>58076478 +Post "results" then. +--- 58076517 +>>58075029 (OP) +Been a long time since I last saw this pic +--- 58076542 +>>58075806 +How so? I thought the whole reason why they used 20" barrels was because of 5.56 being specifically made for long barrels and allowing the gun powder to burn for a longer amount of time before leaving the barrel. +--- 58076552 +>>58075225 +Yes waltuh the the felonious ch chink anonodizing sure is sexy +--- 58076557 +>>58076517 +Who's guns are those? +--- 58076562 +>>58075029 (OP) +Holosun picked up another military contract from the Estonians for their LMGs/HMGs LOLOLOL +--- 58076567 +>>58075380 +Sounds like a job, for the brownells DD socom. 'Triggered' for 15% off +--- 58076577 +>>58076562 +Why do the Elbonian's need solar panels? What do they know that we don't? +--- 58076591 +>>58076557 +Piss Sheet Pete the Poorfag NEET, it’s the dude that comes in here and rage spams the thread until he gets banned +--- 58076631 +step aside sheetzo, there's a new FACOG in town +--- 58076637 +>>58076567 +Is moving up to an SR15 upper worth it from the DD SOCOM upper? +--- 58076645 +>>58076631 +A man to challenge me upon the mountain of facog? Your 4x is no match for my 5x +--- 58076647 +>>58076562 +>a government gave this company millions of dollars for a product they see worth in +>hahahaha get FUCKED holoshit +Go outside bro +--- 58076649 +>>58076637 +probably not, buy an elcan/acog instead +--- 58076650 +>>58076631 +What in the name of Odin is that scope? +--- 58076658 +>>58076650 +It's the Sig bravo4 +--- 58076659 +>>58076645 +nigbrother... I kneel... +>>58076650 +discontinued sig bravo4 4x30 +--- 58076668 +>>58076631 +I hate it, but I respect it. +--- 58076672 +>>58076647 +i think he's laughing at the third world peasants who have to trust their lives to them bro +--- 58076674 +>>58076645 +>5X +That's two X's too many +--- 58076705 +>>58076674 +That's a big 3x 4me. +--- 58076716 +>>58076674 +I had a 3x magnifier setup on this 300 upper before and it wasn't enough + +>>58076659 +Nigbrother, we won. We're above them now, in the clouds. Everything the light touches belongs to us, oy vey +--- 58076725 +>>58076716 +I hat to call nig nogger today because the qd mount was fucked when I got it in the mail. the washers that spaced the crossbolt were disintegrated so I had to go to the hardware store and get some lock washer replacements. shalom. +--- 58076747 +>>58076725 +Another example of great nig nauer quality control, brother. Inshallah +--- 58076762 +>>58076747 +when I called them the guy said the last time he had even seen a bravo4 was when they cannibalized their last demo model to send someone a replacement qd mount like 4 years ago +--- 58076791 +>>58076637 +Ehh at first I'd say nah, the DD is really only a steal if you already have a spare bcg, c/h, muzzle device to pin etc. So really once you get all the shit for the DD, you're probably in at what 1400 or more (assuming you are pinning). But when you factor in the kac coming with all the trimmins and some irons you can easily sell, it's a pretty good value. I seen some video on YouTube where an sr15 was shooting sub MOA after 18k. +--- 58076829 +>>58076552 +Color is meh, but like the profile. Not a fan of the solar panel but it gives it a nice angular look. +--- 58076859 +>>58076791 +>So really once you get all the shit for the DD, you're probably in at what 1400 or more +>upper +$900, and it'll go cheaper, it always hits under $700 before going out of stock. +>bcg +$100 +>ch +$15 +>muzzle +$125 + +Meanwhile the KAC is going to run you $2000. I like my block II more than my SR-15 and I got my SR-15 upper for $1300. +--- 58076877 +ffl is taking too long to submit my form 4 and I'm getting nervous now. Might have to form 3 it to someone else. +--- 58076884 +>>58076877 +You should have used a silencershop kiosk, fren. +--- 58076890 +>>58076791 +>>58076216 +>>58075920 +>>58075806 +Idiots. Literal fucking idiots. +--- 58076908 +>>58076884 +I did. Silencershop didn't have the can I wanted in stock but this is still a powered by silencershop ffl. +--- 58076948 +>>58076890 +Then enlighten us. +--- 58077054 +>>58076908 +you fucked up bigtime. silencershop has been circling the drain since small ffls have been getting fingerprint machines. when I got to submit form 4's I'm in and out in 20 mins and don't even have to pay a transfer fee +--- 58077056 +>>58076948 +He wont. +--- 58077072 +I bought a q mini fix since bauer had them for $600 off, gonna spend all summer trying to hit an ispc torso plate at 600 if I get batch approved +--- 58077081 +>>58077056 +Idiot. Literal fucking idiot +--- 58077088 +>>58077054 +Was still like this for me +>>58076908 +You're FFL is either retarded or a step was missed somewhere. Did you go in to certify yet? +--- 58077112 +>>58076890 +kys about it faggot +--- 58077116 +>>58077088 +the two experiences I had with them sucked but I wanted to do single shot trusts so my dad didn't have to get printed. Between trying to get certified for multiple days and then seeing how easy it is to just do the form4 yourself without the ss bullshit system I'll never go back (unless my dad wants another suppressor but it'll be his problem then) +--- 58077129 +>>58077072 +>gonna spend all summer trying to hit an ispc torso plate at 600 if I get batch approved +I think you can do it. Shouldn't it just be a matter of adjusting your scope? +--- 58077159 +>>58077129 +I forgot to mention I will be doing it with exclusively 220gr subs. I am still trying to find a scope for the job and the only one I have found is a Riton and I don't know if I trust it even if it is their "premium line" of optics. +--- 58077173 +>>58076557 +They belong to a fag who wets the bed +--- 58077195 +Anyone here had their hands on the Sig Spear? How does it stack up against the AR-15? +--- 58077204 +>>58077159 +Oh yeah I saw that post. It might be worth it to get a 10-20moa scope mount. +>I will be doing it with exclusively 220gr subs +That's all I would want to do with it too. +--- 58077237 +>>58077195 +>against the AR-15 +HAAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAH *inhales* HHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHHAAHAHHAH +--- 58077249 +Holy shit, when did this guy lose so much weight? He's been a jolly fatty for so long I thought I had shifted timelines or something. +--- 58077271 +>>58077195 +Bigger holes because we always cater to the BBC +--- 58077279 +>>58077204 +I am definitely going with a 20moa xskel but most of the optics I was looking at just don't have the internal adjustment for it even with the increased cant and christmas tree mils, I have no idea how Riton managed to squeeze in 10 more mils of elevation over a nightforce, razor, or vudu. I could bump up to an mpvo but I still want to be able to use it for more than just long range and offset dots just don't do it for me, especially on a boltgun. If push comes to shove I can get the Riton at dealer cost and just sell it for a light profit if it sucks and swap to the others. +--- 58077315 +All redditors must hang +--- 58077348 +>>58076557 +/pol/cel who lives in my head rent free +Also I’m trans and dont own guns +--- 58077382 +>there are people in /arg/ that dont like lucas +--- 58077404 +>>58077395 +why? +--- 58077419 +>>58077382 +I fucking hate that dweeb. It doesn't matter if I'm as proficient as him in shooting guns because at the end of the day everyone is just going to look at my frame and label me a fucking twink! +--- 58077423 +>>58077279 +Oh holy shit I didn't realize it still wouldn't be enough even with that. That's fucking crazy lol I need to look into this more because something like that or a pork sword are creeping up on the top of my list. +--- 58077442 +>>58077415 +>chud +Really gay word, you can't say retard nigger or faggot, which makes you look like all of those. +--- 58077456 +a2 back yet? I been gone a bit +--- 58077457 +>>58077423 +220gr subs at 600yds have nearly 100moa of drop, so you need about 30ish mils of adjustment+holds to get there. Most 1-10's have about 15 mils of elevation in either direction, 20mils of up with a 20moa base. christmas tree reticles usually have about 10mils of travel, so a razor or vudu with a 20moa base gets you almost there, but I'd prefer to have a little extra than just barely not enough. +https://www.nosler.com/300-aac-blackout-220gr-subsonic-match-grade-ammunition.html +--- 58077458 +>>58077382 + +I want >>58076437 to watch this webm closely. Do you honestly think that you will, let alone CAN have her curves? +--- 58077464 +>>58077456 +nope, still dead +--- 58077470 +>>58077464 +ok. I'll check back in a few weeks +--- 58077471 +>>58077458 +Yes, I transitioned - we've been over this. +--- 58077481 +>>58076658 +>>58076747 +>bench shooting +absolutely fucking disgusting +--- 58077482 +>>58077464 +Where the fuck has A2 been? That nigga been on my mind no cap +--- 58077483 +>>58077415 +I wonder who really hates who more, gun owners or trannoids +--- 58077491 +>>58077482 +he's trying to find the next suitable mass shooter +--- 58077500 +>>58077382 +I think he takes himself too seriously, but I enjoy his terrorist larp vids like the one you posted. +--- 58077515 +R8 my dog (illegal sbr for scale) +--- 58077557 +>>58075129 +>>58075060 +I wouldn't call a 11.5 a gpr, it's still an spr to me, but it can reach out further than people realize. To me I think 14.5 is gpr. +--- 58077573 +>>58077382 +He moves his hips like a woman. Dude needs to seriously work out. He looks like a 15 year old boy with that frame. +--- 58077580 +Hmmm +--- 58077586 +>>58076637 +depends on barrel lengths and role you want it to fill and also how bad you want a kac. I have a 10.3 Mk18 and a 11.5 Kac CQB, the role overlap kinda sucks but I wanted kac really bad. +--- 58077590 +>>58077557 +that's why I did a 12.5 +--- 58077601 +>>58077590 +>that's why I did a 12.5 +I don't believe in 12.5 length. It's a bastard length that does everything badly. Either go super short, or 14.5+ +--- 58077610 +>>58077515 +He looks nervous. +--- 58077617 +>>58077601 +12.5 mid lets you use high backpressure suppressors without getting gassed out as bad +>t. lmt specwar+polonium user +--- 58077622 +>>58077601 +If you're doing a 12.5 with a carbine gas system, then yes I agree. However 12.5 midlength is godlike smooth +>b-but everyone said it's unreliable +Yeah, fucking 20 years ago when the tech wasn't where it is now +--- 58077633 +>>58077617 +Why didn't you get a polonium k instead? +--- 58077639 +>>58077633 +I originally got the fullsize for my cmmg 5.7 banshee and ended up with a specwar before I got the polonium back +--- 58077650 +Somehow +I have the urge to sell my AR-10 to get a bolt gun or Browning BAR Safari rifle instead then make a SPR clone +--- 58077653 +>>58077639 +Far enough do you like it overall? I kinda want to get a polonium k for an spr build since it's so short and light weight +--- 58077664 +>>58077653 +it's good, really good on my brn-180 with the piston shut all the way. I am planning on getting a polonium k for my specwar because that thing is already front heavy as fuck to begin with. +--- 58077665 +>>58077617 +Fellow specwar connoisseur who has seen the light +--- 58077675 +>>58077664 +What are you using for your mounts? Did you go direct thread? +--- 58077682 +>>58077665 +old pic but I just like it +>>58077675 +asr since my first suppressors were sico and I just decided to keep going in with it. +--- 58077685 +>>58077580 +What are you going to do with the 14.5"? +--- 58077689 +>>58077622 +>>58077617 +You could still do mid length on a 14.5 and it's still going to be insanely smooth and you get the benefits of the increased velocity. Where as with 12.5 it's not really an SBR length anymore and it doesn't have nearly as much velocity. Especially when you add a suppressor like you're saying, You're looking at like 16.5-18.5 length with it. For really no focused purposeful reason. I'm sure it is smooth though. If that's all you care about, then okay. But I personally build my guns to serve a purpose in a fight. +--- 58077702 +>>58077682 +Have you ever had any issues with ASR? dudes say they launch cans +--- 58077718 +>>58077689 +I already have the only gun I need for anything serious so now I just buy stuff that seems cool +>>58077702 +as long as you aren't a retard and actually make sure the ring is locked before you start shooting there's no problem, adding extra mechanical movement filters retards. old asr however was actually flawed and did have that problem. the offending mounts can be distinguished by the knurled locking ring vs the newer design. +--- 58077735 +When i see guys at the range in battle belts and $200 pants and all of that kind of stuff running drills I think man what a bunch of faggots but when I do it it's cool. +--- 58077753 +>>58077689 +NTA but I went 12.5 because I wanted to do a gl/ssc-ish build. I honestly wouldn't say you're making a mistake at 11.5 (I converted that to a 12.5 and then eventually used the barrel to make my gf's gun) but I will say that my rifle is faster and more pleasant to shoot with my can than my 11.5 was, which does translate to serving a purpose in a fight. + +It also inspired me to build a lightweight 20" rifle. Tbh I don't feel the need for any more 5.56 ARs after that. +--- 58077763 +>>58076336 +Maybe I'm retarded but I don't understand this post at all. Plz elaborate, are you saying to test the chang shit or not? +--- 58077771 +11.5 with full size can +12.5 with k can +it's that simple +--- 58077784 +>>58076336 +maybe if eokek would release the ogl at $1300msrp people wouldn't have to look for chinklams to get mawl power +--- 58077785 +>>58077456 +No, and good riddance, find another ass to kiss. A2 had absolute retard takes. +--- 58077795 +>>58077456 +>>58077785 +how does someone go from posting here for what, a decade? and then just dissapear +--- 58077796 +>>58077515 +5/5 based on his socks and fine posture. + +>>58077610 +If my dog isn’t with 8” of me it means he’s up to something and that’s the face I get when I find him. +--- 58077803 +>>58077785 +based post I liked his info for a few years but his takes gradually became more inane +--- 58077808 +>>58077795 +No way was it a decade +--- 58077809 +>>58077610 +A dog would be posing next to an item that will lead to the AFT shooting them +--- 58077814 +>>58077753 +I have a 10.3” and 14.5” (not pinned and welded) and those are the only 5.56 rifles I feel I want (not so much need), but my AR-10s will be 13.5” and 16” when I finally source barrels. If I ever build a 16” AR-15, it’ll be a more traditional clone (carry handle shit). +--- 58077829 +>>58077753 +Like I said before, 12.5 is stupid to get if it's carbine length. It really shines when you get it a mid 12.5 and use a suppressor with it +--- 58077835 +>>58075585 +Did they actually batter the patty? Wouldn’t it taste better if they shallow fried just the bare patty? +--- 58077842 +18in SPR build with 70ish gr soft points good for deer? I know it'll be a great yote culler and likely pig exterminator but I'd like to add deer to that list +--- 58077844 +>>58077814 +I have a 12.5, 14.5, 11.5, 13in (galil), and a 10.5 yet I still find myself wanting a mk18 +--- 58077848 +>>58077796 +Her socks but thanks. She's only 5 months old but has learned sit pretty quick +--- 58077850 +The "12.5s are unreliable" shit kicked up again because of a video Hop did not long ago where he complained that his 12.5" build with a gaped gas port was impossible to tune for mixed unsuppresed and suppressed use with some shitty YHM can. Oh, it's explosively overgassed when suppressed? No shit, Hop. + +That said, I think 12.5 is sort of in a weird limbo area. 12.5 middy would be the shit if you went into it with a proper gas port for the can you know you're going to use on it. But really, it's not going to be much better than a 11.5 carbine, and 14.5 mid will always be more forgiving over a variety of configurations. +--- 58077860 +>>58077685 +Idk yet. I am enjoying the looks of this blaster though. +--- 58077868 +>>58077850 +12.5's are definitely bleeding edge of reliability, my specwar won't cycle with an h2 scs without a can +--- 58077872 +>>58077829 +Carbine length is good too imo. Going mid length isn't a problem either but I think requires more tuning for suppressed/unsuppressed shooting. I went carbine because I wasn't able to find a 12.5" mid length chrome lined barrel in stock. +--- 58077875 +>>58077573 +Okay tough guy let’s see how your hips move with a 12” buttplug in. +--- 58077880 +>>58077850 +Only LMT and noveske have nailed the 12.5 mid. I've heard the triarc one is good for the price but the kak one is shit +--- 58077883 +>>58077868 +Only 12.5 mids are on the bleeding edge of reliability. +--- 58077892 +>>58077880 +I thought the triarc 12.5 mid was literal vaporware +>>58077883 +yes, that is what I meant sorry I didn't specify +--- 58077898 +>>58077868 +Huh I'm running a A5H1 (same weight as as an H2) and haven't had any failures on mine with and without my rc2. Maybe a BRT eztune tube would help +--- 58077899 +>>58077860 +Yeah that's not bad. I still think the mk18+elcan was the pinnacle of aesthetics but I understand why you are doing it this way. +--- 58077902 +>>58077892 +I owned one but got rid of it cause I wanted chrome lining. +--- 58077908 +>>58077868 +>>58077880 +Black River Tactical sells a 12.5" barrel with an intermediate gas length that sounds interesting, but I've never shot one, and I've never seen anyone shoot one, either. Rosco sells something similar but I've heard they still managed to over-gas it. It's also 416 steel for some dumbass reason, whereas BRT's is 4150 CMV CHF CL. +--- 58077910 +>nogs are rioting because another dindu died +What’s the best grain of ammo for a MK18 to defend myself from the dark horde? +--- 58077911 +>>58077892 +I have no experience with the triarc one, only LMT. I just know the kak one had people complaining online +--- 58077914 +>>58077898 +If I swapped in an h1 scs I'm sure it would run fine, I'm using the h2 to keep the polonium tamed even more +--- 58077924 +>>58077908 +Any of the barrels from BRT are solid, they're just usually hard to find in stock. Just know their gas lengths are proprietary +--- 58077926 +>>58077910 +75-77gr +--- 58077927 +>>58077910 +69+. The heavier, the better. +--- 58077933 +>>58077868 +Mine cycled everything with authority with an H2 + blue. Still thought the 14.5 carbine MRP I had chopped to 12.5 felt better though, especially with a can. +--- 58077940 +>>58077910 +barnes vor-tx brown tip +--- 58077944 +>>58077924 +Pretty sure only their 12.5 "EXC" barrel is proprietary. I've heard good things about BRT, but it's a bit strange that info about their barrels is so hard to come by. +--- 58077950 +>>58077868 +>bleeding edge of reliability +You are like little baby +--- 58077959 +>>58077860 +I know my opinion is probably the last you'd value but I don't think the elcan fits there aesthetically, was much better on the blonk 2. Painted lower looks weird there too. The fully BLACKED out gun with T2 unity on the SR15 upper was fucking nuts bro. +--- 58077960 +>>58077933 +it's probably the scs to be honest, it will cycle with a sionics np3 carrier but won't lrbho +--- 58077962 +>>58077500 +>terrorist larp +it's DWOT larp +--- 58077964 +>>58077910 +Supersonic hot lead is still supersonic hot lead. 70+ gr is ideal but if all you have is 55gr you're fine +--- 58077968 +>>58077959 +elcan and quadrail were a match made in hell +--- 58077980 +>>58077944 +You're right I was only thinking of the 12.5s since that's what we were talking about. I think there's not a lot of info because they're not a big name brand and don't make a lot of supply but I can't say for sure. Maybe they just don't shill out to youtubers +--- 58077987 +>>58077968 +If it's just pure functionality then yeah, elcan is probably a bit better on that lightweight upper. But for min-max purposes it's even lighter with the T2. +--- 58077996 +>>58077844 +The 10.3” is a Mk18 (RIS II quad), but it’s basically just for fun. +--- 58078013 +7.5" 5.56 suppressed looks pretty neat ngl +--- 58078029 +>>58078013 +might as well get a 5.7 at that point +--- 58078030 +>>58078013 +>how to destroy your baffles in one simple step +--- 58078038 +>>58077959 +i still have sr-15, nyanon. this isnt an either or situation. two cqb uppers but different optics setups for different purposes. +--- 58078047 +>>58077848 +My pup was a stray and when I got him at 4 months he had been taught to sit just like at the door when I get the leash. + +>>58077844 +I have an 11.5 FSB and still want a 10.3, want either a DD, FCD or Centurion. +--- 58078063 +>18in Larue 6.5 Grendel complete upper +Talk me out of it +--- 58078064 +>>58078047 +She just learned how to do that too it's adorable. I got her from a rescue shelter where her mom was bred at a mill +--- 58078068 +>>58078047 +since you already have the centurion I would say the dd is the obvious choice, it's just too ubiquitous +--- 58078074 +>>58078063 +grendel is a meme caliber for tards that won't even exist in 10 years. + +Get the AR10 upper instead. +--- 58078078 +>>58078063 +I have a 6.5 grendel american ranch in a boyds adjustable stock, it's a cool round but it's niche and somewhat expensive +--- 58078086 +>>58078013 +Bro you really should have just gone with 300blk for this size. +--- 58078088 +https://www.primaryarms.com/geissele-super-select-fire-trigger-small-pin-154-gat-ssf +>gat +Talk me out of it. +--- 58078089 +>>58078074 +I already have a PredatOBR in 308 +Guess I'll stick with my plan of a spr for that long boi AR15 dream +>>58078078 +Yeah that's what I was afraid of +--- 58078093 +>>58077072 +I like the fix but its just too damn expensive for what it is, even at discount +--- 58078101 +>>58078088 +Do you have a sear? Then sure. Otherwise just get the SSA or SD3G +--- 58078112 +>>58078089 +you might as well just go straight to creedmoor in an ar-10 +>>58078093 +I literally only bought it because of the 45 degree bolt throw, I have a henry 357 with a can on it and the fix is just that in a bolt gun. I was looking at an elf owl but the speedy bolt got the better of me +--- 58078123 +>>58078038 +Ah shit nice, didn't know you got a second CQB upper, haven't been on for a while. Get nods yet? +--- 58078133 +>>58078101 +the sd3g is basically its own auto sear lmao. If you don't want that then get the larue. +--- 58078139 +I like my turbo K better than my RC2 (pg 1, 2, 3, 4 >> 246, 247, 248) +--- 58078151 +>>58078133 +Sd3g is easily my favorite trigger cause it also has some slight take-up if you pull slowly but a quick crisp break if pulled quickly +--- 58078164 +>>58078151 +Yup, I'm glad I got it right before I left. Feels really good on my sr30. +--- 58078167 +>>58077875 +I bet this post seemed epic for that win while you were typing it out. +--- 58078168 +Should I bother getting an RC2 for my 16"? +--- 58078181 +For a 14.5 block ii...some surefire muzzle device would be my best option if I intend to do a PnW right? I really like the durability factor the RC2 has +--- 58078182 +>>58078168 +get the mini at that length, I'm pretty sure the performance gap on a 16" between the mini and the rc2 is nonexistant. shorter than 14.5 with a mini however is a different story. +--- 58078184 +>>58078168 +Every AR owner should have an RC2, also you're going to get a mk18 whether you like it or not. +--- 58078185 +>>58078168 +If you're fine with having an M16 length gun, sure. +--- 58078190 +>>58078168 +Yeah, if it's heavy go to the gym +--- 58078196 +>>58078181 +3 or 4 prong flash hider. +--- 58078199 +>>58078190 +Run with it for 3 hours with a 50 pound ruck sack on and come tell me that again. +--- 58078205 +>>58078013 +7.5" should be for 300 black, 6.8 SPC, etc + +>>58077515 +I like your dog + +>>58077481 +I feel bad for you +--- 58078212 +>>58078112 +>elf owl +Not him I'm who you were talking to earlier but that's neat and much more in my price range. Bookmarked. +--- 58078213 +>>58078167 +My bad. You sound like you already have one in. +--- 58078219 +>>58078199 +Doesn't matter no one on /arg/ does cardio exercise +--- 58078227 +Reminder that you aren't an RC2 Chad until you've shot it off, whether you had to or not. I myself shoot mine off for a good laugh even if its not carbon locked on there. I love watching it go flying and getting covered in all the shit that flies out of the back. +--- 58078230 +>>58078219 +I do, I literally ran with a 55 pound ruck on monday and I just ran a 9:34 1.5 mile last night. +--- 58078235 +>>58078168 +Get a Dead Air Sierra5. It will be my next can. Its 90% a Rc2 at much less the cost. +I wouldnt use it for FA. However most users only have a AR anyways. +-Rc2 owner +--- 58078240 +>>58078182 +mini man bad, plus I want to be able to throw it on an 11.5" when I get NODs in the future +>>58078184 +>MK18 +11.5 +>>58078190 +I can bench 290 +--- 58078241 +>>58078184 +based. +--- 58078243 +>>58078230 +Take care of your knees man. I messed mine up climbing and walking with heavy gear for years. +--- 58078245 +>>58078219 +Not everybody is ash +--- 58078255 +>>58078230 +It's a joke anon, I think you might have been the anon I talked with about running a few days ago +--- 58078257 +>>58078064 +Based rescue pup. My pup was found by my ex who has a farm/cat sanctuary so lucky someone who likes animals went to the trouble to round him up. + +>>58078068 +I’ve got the poorfag Centurion: Aero upper, DPMS chrome lined barrel and C4 rail. I do keep coming back to the DD. + +>>58078139 +I was gonna get one as a cheap first can with seemingly decent reviews but also looking at some slightly pricier ones. Do you the YHM mount? I like the Phantom I have on another gun so I like the FH option. +--- 58078259 +>>58078230 +That will annihilator your knees, hiking or training with a ruck is fine but running in one is retarded, I'd be careful running for extended periods with a plate carrier let alone a 50lb ruck +--- 58078260 +>>58078240 +>I can bench 290 +That doesn't matter at all for actually carrying something while moving anon, But I'm on your side for the most part. +--- 58078272 +>>58078243 +>Take care of your knees man. I messed mine up climbing and walking with heavy gear for years. +Yeah, I intend to. But I'm going tacp and we have to carry heavy ass radio equipment all the time. So it's apart of the job. +--- 58078275 +>>58078260 +>That doesn't matter at all for actually carrying something while moving anon +I can squat 505 +--- 58078282 +>>58078275 +I can squat 506. +--- 58078283 +>>58078272 +Are you the anon that expressed interest in PJs a few nights ago? +--- 58078298 +How are triggertech triggers +--- 58078299 +>>58078255 +>It's a joke anon +Oh, my bad. Hmm, maybe what did we discuss? +>>58078259 +>That will annihilator your knees +I have time limits I'm expected to meet anon, I alternate between a slow jog and a fast walk. I have zero pain in my knees. Maybe after years of doing it yeah, but I wouldn't use the word "annihilate" as that implies that its a thing you do once and its instantly killing your joints. I feel better than ever actually. +--- 58078306 +>>58078112 +>Elf owl +Looks cool, maybe someday +--- 58078313 +>>58078299 +Over time it will, I have shit feet to boot so doing cardio extensively wears me down anyway. +--- 58078321 +>>58078272 +Maybe do leg presses to build leg muscles. Run cardio on a treadmill. +Do not run on concrete long term. You will develop micro fractures on your bones. That wont show up for a decade. +And if you keep running with 55 lbs expect to be hurting your knees. +Best advice is to pay a gym guy to train you. Tell him exactly what you are trying out for. So you dont waste time running around exhausting yourself. +--- 58078334 +>>58075106 +I got a $15 knockoff and wasn't impressed with the concept. Maybe if you shelled out the $150 you'd like it, or at least try to convince yourself and others you did to justify the purchase. +--- 58078336 +>>58078275 +>I can squat 505 +That's very impressive, but it still doesn't matter for actually moving with gear for long periods of time, having some strength is good, but the muscles and tendons you're using to actually move with gear are different, and your heart has to pump oxygenated blood to the rest of your body while its under load. If you haven't been doing cardio or rucks, you're not adapted to that kind of work. Also you're calves will be atrophied after just a couple of miles if you don't do the kind of training I'm talking about. + +Guys who ego lift in the gym and put out numbers like you, think they can do everything. It really isn't that simple anon, I use to lift like that for years and then came into my Spec war program and got btfo by 130 pound 20yo kids who smoked me on the run and swim while I destroyed them on Pullups situps and pushups. +--- 58078351 +>>58078283 +No, I am the anon going TACP that was encouraging him. +>>58078313 +Time makes weaklings of us all anon, father time is undefeated. +--- 58078374 +>>58078275 +>>58078282 +Rollergirl is looking for you +--- 58078383 +>>58078299 +I said I have a 7 min mile when I'm 200lbs and the other anon said it was bullshit. I have been cutting to lose fat though. Trying to get to 180 before doing a tough murder later this year. I'm already down 15 +--- 58078389 +>>58078321 +Lol, anon I appreciate the advice, with that said, I've already been doing leg presses and deadlifts for years preparing for this. Also running on a treadmill gets you no where. You have to train in conditions to experience what its actually going to feel like and for your body to adapt. If I cared as much as you or others do about my long term health I wouldn't be in the military at all. +>Micro fractures +Yeah that's actually a necessary part of strengthening your legs anon, its proven that running even without load does this and it increases the density of the bones in your legs so you can handle it better. +>Keep running with 55 lbs +lol I have to ruck with 105 for 14 miles by the end of TACP training to graduate. +--- 58078393 +>>58078257 +>Do you the YHM mount? +No I used it initially (pre-kurz which defeated the purpose of getting a k-can) wasn't a fan. Heavy and bleh. If swapping the can between rifles sometimes the mounts won't ratchet all the way. Went with the plan B and it's nice and light at 13.7 oz + whatever the cherry bomb weighs, never carbon locks, no springs to wear out, no grinding down of the locking teeth. There's also the dead air xeno and area 419 mounts which I'd probably have went with but they weren't out yet. Taper mounts are cash money nigga. +--- 58078399 +>>58077515 +There's no such thing as an illegal sbr +--- 58078403 +>>58078383 +I was that anon and I don't remember you saying 7 min mile. 7 min mile is doable and I believe that, What I remember you saying was something insane like 6:20 sec or something like that. +--- 58078404 +>>58078336 +>ego lift +It's not an ego lift, I'm 22 and been lifting since I was like 17 +--- 58078409 +>>58078196 +Which would be better as a flash hider by itself? +--- 58078420 +>>58078404 +Ego lifting is when you go just purely for numbers. Which is what it sounds like you're doing. +--- 58078433 +>>58078420 +No, it's strength training - I go full ROM +--- 58078440 +>>58078403 +Oh maybe it was the 6:30 mile I did recently at 195 lbs. I did a 7 min one at 200 and then the 630 when I dropped a bit more. +I haven't been able to run in a while though because I had a work product interval end 2 weeks ago, my online final for grad school last week, and yesterday I woke up with a fucking abscess on my ass. I feel like shit not going to the gym in 2.5 weeks +--- 58078467 +Did a 6:37 to some kiana Dior gif's. Id like to see you fags go that long without stopping +--- 58078475 +>>58078433 +Okay, well more power to ya anon. Who am I to judge? +>>58078440 +I can believe you did that only if you have prior running experience and you probably felt like absolute dogshit at the end of that mile. I just ran that last night at a 6:20 pace for 1.5 mile and I literally developed a short term cough for like an hour afterwards from all the breathing. It's just hard to believe somebody that big is running that fast, but if you're only doing a mile and you have prior experience I could maybe see it, I still bet you didn't feel good for a good couple minutes after though hahah. +Everybody gets religious when they start to have to run fast. +--- 58078482 +>>58078467 +sex gifs? +--- 58078487 +>>58078467 +>>58078467 +>Did a 6:37 to some kiana Dior gif's +lmao +--- 58078497 +>>58078475 +I did rowing for 10 years so I've always had pretty good endurance and breathing technique. +--- 58078558 +>>58078482 +Yes ive been stepping my training up quite a bit. I essentially built a goon cave on my land with a Rambo-esque tunnel maze leading to the main lair. I'll start off above ground, 500 yds out with steel setup all the way. Hit to move, 100 yd increments, fast as possible. Then I enter the tunnels with ipsc's setup everywhere, so I get some good cqb in until I make it to the big HTPC setup in the actual safe room with multiple phub tabs ready to go. +--- 58078568 +>>58078409 +They both work great as flash hiders. Most people just use the 3 prong. The 4 prong is mostly made for the military, so they're available in smaller numbers than the 3 prong. You'll be able to find the 3 prong much easier. Neither hides flash better than the other. +--- 58078621 +>>58078558 +You're a animal anon, becoming a BEAST! +--- 58078649 +>>58078558 +I don't know much in this crazy world anymore but I do know one thing for sure. This anon is gmi +--- 58078661 +>>58077850 +I need to take this out with the can. Have yet to shoot it suppressed +--- 58078667 +>>58078487 +>gap +--- 58078673 +>>58078558 +sounds neat. one of the new hires on my crew was in iraq during the beginning of the insurgency phase and he mentioned wanting to go out shooting together. he also has a bcm sticker on his hood so idk, bros. +--- 58078675 +>>58078558 +Are you THE Jim? +--- 58078682 +>>58078675 +It's MY goon life and I'll live it how I WANT +--- 58078736 +>>58078389 +Sounds like you have it all figured out. +Just tell me youre not drinking the koolaide propaganda they are forcing you to watch. +--- 58078765 +1.54 with top mounted T2, or 1.7 with offset? +--- 58078779 +>>58078063 +6.8 mo betta +--- 58078781 +>>58078765 +Offset is gay +--- 58078787 +>>58078675 +Yes i should note I do this with my noveske 12.5 and finish with ALG go juice +--- 58078805 +>>58078765 +Carry handle & gooseneck mount, red dot on the extension and scope on top +--- 58078811 +>>58078787 +do you have an offset dot for your dot, so when you can't use the other dot you can dot with the other dot? +--- 58078828 +>>58078811 +Retard. You always need an offset dot on BOTH sides for when you swap shoulders for clockwise staircase breaching. +--- 58078840 +>>58078736 +>Just tell me youre not drinking the koolaide propaganda they are forcing you to watch. +I am most certainly NOT drinking the koolaid, I'm doing this because it aligns with my interests and I get a once in a life time opportunity to do cool guy shit and get phenomenal training for the only interests I have in life which is guns and tactics and surviving the dwot. I unironically think bad things are coming down the pipe in the future and I want to be prepared and be one of the guys at the top with the skills to keep me there. +Im off to the gym now. +--- 58078841 +>>58077557 +Lmkac or buy kac lower? +--- 58078853 +>>58078828 +>clockwise staircase breaching. +you're so fucking right Jim. can never be too prepared. +--- 58078858 +>>58078393 +I like the Dead Air Xeno and since one of my two primary AR’s is a pin and weld I thought that would be a good long term option. + +>>58078779 +I still want a 6.8. +--- 58078879 +>>58078858 +rearden atlas gets you into the plan b ecosystem with muzzle devices that actually do something unlike the cherry bomb, would recommend +--- 58078889 +>>58078879 +My only concern is the lack of secondary retention, I've heard a taper mount alone can back off +--- 58078899 +>>58078811 +>>58078828 +Even better, I have the Aimpoint CEU so i can corner fap to the TV down the hall without exposing myself. Works best with the eotech due to light transmission and the battery is probably dead anyway as the reticle can clutter the scene quite a bit. +--- 58078904 +>>58078889 +I personally prefer a mounting system with some sort of locking mechanism on a semi, but on a bolt /pcc, atlas/plan b all the way +--- 58078905 +>>58078899 +--- 58078914 +>>58078853 +Honestly. Real pipe hitters? Cobalt kinetics ambi forward assist, offset dots @ 10 & 2, 1-11X LPVO w piggyback t2 for NVG +--- 58078921 +new new +>>58078916 → + + +>>58078916 → +>>58078916 → +--- 58078960 +>>58078840 +Good luck to you anon. diff --git a/k/58075083.txt b/k/58075083.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6ca5f0b380d2adc7c0d101290dd85d3da04dd541 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58075083.txt @@ -0,0 +1,594 @@ +----- +--- 58075083 +why? +--- 58075104 +That's Mohajer-5 +--- 58075116 +>>58075083 (OP) +Most likely not a Bayraktar but a cheap reconnaisance drone. AFU claimed they also shot down a reconnaisance drone along said >10 Shaheds, so maybe this is it? +--- 58075132 +Where was this taken? +--- 58075139 +>>58075132 +Definitely Kiev +--- 58075140 +It's a Korsar +--- 58075142 +>>58075104 +misinformation +--- 58075149 +Imagine waking up and remembering you're Russian +--- 58075156 +>>58075142 +Is it? +--- 58075165 +In the video with sound, you can clearly hear a metric shitton of small arms fire. I never want to hear shit about how me firing my rigle in the air on holidays is "unsafe" ever again. +--- 58075171 +>>58075104 +Mohajer doesn't have that characteristic inverted v tail retard +--- 58075174 +>>58075083 (OP) +Korsar russian UAS has the exact same layout (but is way smaller) + +I presume they were trying to get BDA or something. +--- 58075186 +Looks like a Korsar to me, probably trying to find the locations of air defense +--- 58075188 +>>58075156 +yea +>>58075174 +different shape. misinformation +--- 58075196 +>>58075188 +schizo +--- 58075199 +>>58075188 +Actually nah, I think this is a TB-2. You can't see the lumps on the wings for the gear and you can see the spindly rear main gear hanging out on one side. +--- 58075220 +>>58075199 +One of TB2's Wagner got in Mali then? +--- 58075223 +>>58075083 (OP) +>Slow shitty drones reaching the fucking center of Kiev AND Moscow +Lol? +--- 58075224 +>>58075083 (OP) +Please explain. +--- 58075241 +>>58075224 +The eternal roach secretly selling tb2s to putin +--- 58075242 +tactical advantage? +--- 58075245 +>>58075223 +Probably launched from Belarus, son only 90km +--- 58075249 +Puccia told me all TB-2s were destroyed on day 1 +--- 58075251 +Why they were reduced to down it with small arms? I saw the video with sound and it looks like an Arab wedding +--- 58075262 +>>58075165 +>>58075251 +Post the video niggers +--- 58075264 +Another Greek-Armenian-Russian Orthodox alliance victory. Roach drones have no chance. We'll also Ankara bomb them with F-35's just like currently how Russia does that to Ukies.. +--- 58075266 +>>58075251 +Because anyone with more than small arms or a manpad has IFF and could see it's their own UAV? +--- 58075271 +>>58075165 +>I never want to hear shit about how me firing my rigle in the air on holidays is "unsafe" ever again. + +Is your neighbourhood an active war zone? +--- 58075272 +>>58075249 +t*rks gave them just 3 new tb2 last month. Russia continues to eat chew and split those t*rk drones. +--- 58075276 +>>58075223 +i mean Kyiv is one thing because their air defenses are not nearly as large as Russia's and also they're probably positioned near high priority targets. They can't protect every population center from terror bombing, what little they have there will probably be saturated by a wave of Iranian lawnmowers. Which, you know, is why they use bomb shelters and air raid sirens +--- 58075295 +>>58075272 +No comrade, Turkey gave 17134351 TB-2 drones to Ukraine after Puccia destroyed 82154861 drones in the opening hours of the war. Trust the plan. Z. +--- 58075328 +>>58075303 +>>58075174 +The one in video doesn't have that beer can antenna +--- 58075379 +>>58075264 +Armenia was using outdated Russian doctrines and they got wrecked hard by Turkey Jr. + +And Greece would get annihilated on 1vs1 so hard that your head would spin. These two countries were defeated so badly that even after 100+ years they are still crying. +--- 58075384 +why are retards acting like russia shot down a drone that was clearly flying over kieyiyv, and/or acting like this is good for russia somehow +as for its identity it could be a tb2 they "borrowed" from Mali. no refunds +--- 58075397 +>>58075303 +>>58075174 + +No, it's not Korsar. Only two dysfunctional prototypes exist. Russia can't make proper tactical drones +--- 58075399 +Dumb question maybe, but why would the Ukrainians be flying a TB2 above Kyiv? +--- 58075400 +it was clearly specops to show how effective anti-air is in ukrainian capital. but it failed since the drone flew for over 20 minutes until eventually getting shot by what seems to be manpads and crashing into some store... +--- 58075401 +>>58075242 +how do the vatniks know what a "decision making center" even looks like? +--- 58075405 +>>58075132 +Maidan, in Kyiv. The chimpouts are now every day. Wonder why. +--- 58075438 +It was a missile +--- 58075441 +>>58075083 (OP) +>>58075303 +holy fuck it is Bayraktar2 100% ahaha... bozo moment +--- 58075456 +>>58075242 +A cat shelter is now a decisio center? +--- 58075458 +>>58075083 (OP) +>why? +shit happens +--- 58075465 +>>58075399 +Surveillance operation to track down draft dodgers. +--- 58075473 +Can see theres 3 blades on the prop in this picture. How many does a TB2 have? +--- 58075479 +>>58075342 +Now you are walking on thin ice, just remember spreading something else than official information published by the Russian government is a capital crime. +--- 58075481 +>>58075242 +Who "indicated" this? +--- 58075487 +>>58075473 +Can be both 2 and 3 +--- 58075494 +tb2 bros its over +--- 58075515 +>>58075473 +its def a tb2 +--- 58075539 +>>58075397 +Those have been shot down over Ukraine already, they definitely have more than 2 +--- 58075572 +>>58075271 +Only when he spreads his butt cheeks +--- 58075574 +>>58075539 +thats the orion +--- 58075601 +>>58075303 +aeronautical advantage of inverted "V" tail fin? +--- 58075617 +>>58075271 +The bullets won't be coming down in my neighborhood. +--- 58075630 +this was not tb2 i repeat this was not tb2 ukranian aa is 1000% effective +--- 58075631 +Could be a Chinese drone, or a Bayraktar sourced from some 3rd world customer. There are plenty of Russia-leaning shithole countries in Africa that use the TB-2. It would actually make sense and would explain how a large drone like that got all the way to Kyiv. +--- 58075633 +>>58075473 +Original model has 2, Ukraine model has 3 +--- 58075652 +>>58075438 +>>58075473 +>telegram channel puts its watermark over a gettyimages video +lmao +--- 58075670 +>>58075631 +Wrong shape +--- 58075678 +>>58075658 +>we have TB2 at home +some new drone based on the bayraktar? +--- 58075685 +Why is everyone casually strolling around while there is anti air actions going on above your head is the better question +--- 58075700 +>>58075658 +No visible UAF roundels. The plot thickens. Zelenskyy was returning from a meeting with Nordic leaders in Finland around the same time, this could be part of a bigger assassination attempt. That would explain the Kremlin false flag that allegedly tried to target Putin. +--- 58075712 +>>58075685 +People got used it. I was walking from the store when I saw rocket hit one and another one flew over my house. One crashed 400 meters from my house +--- 58075718 +Aren't there several dozen kinds of drone that are all variations on +>Pusher-prop swept-wing with pyramidal tail boom +--- 58075730 +>>58075685 +You get use to it to the point where it has zero effect on you. When I was in Iraq we were getting 2-3 indirect fire attacks a day. After about 2 weeks I was sleeping through the attacks at night. It's kind of like when people live next to train tracks long enough and don't even notice the train going by. + +>pic related, aftermath of a rocket hitting one of the barriers +--- 58075732 +What a wild ride lads. My bet is on that it was russian, just because I checked pol and they are so unifically say its not. And they been wrong about everything so far in this war +--- 58075754 +>>58075685 +it's kyiv. +>>58075700 +>No visible UAF roundels +why the fuck would you think ukraine is flying over their city and knocking out their own drone +it's obviously russian, they have access to tb2s +--- 58075757 +>>58075732 +The plot thickens. Can't wait to see what happens next in the couple of days if not hours +--- 58075770 +>>58075712 +>>58075730 +I get that you get used to the fear, but this is just common sense, hundreds of bullets and other shit being launched in the air, get some cover at least before you catch some stray into your eye +--- 58075771 +>>58075754 +>why the fuck would you think ukraine is flying over their city and knocking out their own drone +>it's obviously russian, they have access to tb2s +That's what I was implying, that it was not a UAF TB-2. +--- 58075777 +>>58075601 +>slight reduction in drag +>since prop is in the middle having a horizontal stab collecting the two tail booms would reduce thrust +>the V converging above makes the structure stronger for less weight +>slight reduction in radar cross section +--- 58075786 +>>58075083 (OP) +Russia does use tb-2 right? Could it jabe come from belarus? +--- 58075821 +>>58075379 +And yet the ottoman empire ceased to exist +--- 58075823 +>>58075303 +>>58075438 +So maybe a friendly fire? But then why would a Ukie TB2 flying in Kiev? Makes no sense. +--- 58075835 +>>58075786 +Technically only Wagnet does, and in Africa. +--- 58075841 +>>58075823 +Tracking down draftable males. +--- 58075858 +>>58075841 +witty, no wonder you ended up in the propaganda sector +--- 58075866 +>>58075841 +they can do this pretty easily if they just sniff packet metadata and look for cs:go players +--- 58075882 +>>58075132 + +Independence Square in Kiev. That statue is Berehynia, an old Slavic goddess that predates Christianity +--- 58075893 +>>58075242 +Soooo they will stop hitting civilians and civilian infrastructure? +--- 58075901 +With sound +https://t.me/c/1638303791/728169 +--- 58075922 +>>58075882 +>berehynia +usually going by "бaбa з вiникoм" aka "woman with broom" +--- 58075932 +So if it was the centre of Kiev then why would it be a TB2? +--- 58075951 +>>58075932 +what else can it be? +--- 58075952 +>>58075821 +>And yet the ottoman empire ceased to exist +The Ottoman Empire ceased to exist and yet it's the Greeks and Armenians crying about how bad they got their ass whooped by Turks and muh genociiiide! +Post-WW1 Republican Turkey beat Greece, Armenia and France all by itself. +--- 58075997 +>>58075083 (OP) +> 80 years ago grandpa was shooting down b17s flying at 350 kph at 30000 feet +> today Ukraine cannot shoot down drone flying at 150kph 1500 feet without missile +--- 58076005 +>>58075823 +Some Ukrainian sources are saying it was a Ukrainian TB2 that was flying north of Kyiv and then lost signal. They think it kept flying and ended up over the capital. +Either way it's likely just friendly fire. Shit happens in war. +--- 58076019 +friendly fire then? +--- 58076023 +>>58075951 +There are some other pics of similar models of drones. + +I just don't get why they would do it. +--- 58076026 +>>58076005 +Eh, that would be one hell of a coincidence if this happened during the air raid +--- 58076038 +>>58076026 +what air raid? it happened like 2 hours ago. +--- 58076044 +>>58075952 +They received no help from Germany or from Austria-Hungary, neither did the Turks receive any help from Russian SFSR and the rest of commies, right ? +--- 58076047 +>>58075951 +>what else can it be? +every other drone that looks like that? What a retarded question +--- 58076053 +>>58075401 +It's their mom's house, they're targetting Zelensky's mom. +--- 58076065 +>>58076038 +>what air raid? +The one 2 hours and 22 minutes ago +--- 58076083 +>>58076047 +any other drone that looks EXACTLY like bayraktar tb-2? + +>>58076065 +the bayraktar tb-2 solo air raid? +--- 58076088 +turkey should be kicked out of nato. they are fighting on the side of russia now. its obvious they gift them tb2s for s400s. +--- 58076100 +>>58076083 +I don't think a solo Bayraktar losing signal would warrant an air raid alert +--- 58076104 +>>58075400 +AA was kind of busy shooting down kalibrs. +--- 58076105 +>>58076083 + +china and dubai has exact same copy of tb2s +--- 58076118 +>>58075841 +They should do it like the Russians and recruit straight from prison. +--- 58076121 +>>58076105 +--- 58076124 +>>58076005 +uhh anon, there's no way it was flying "from north of kyiv" since it came from south-west and was flying north-east +and considering that there are [redacted], it had to take several turns, so being "uncontrollable" is out of the question + +>>58076083 +literally third post in thread >>58075116 +>AFU claimed they also shot down a reconnaisance drone along said >10 Shaheds +--- 58076137 +Imagine supporting pig people +--- 58076140 +>>58076137 +But I don’t support Russia +--- 58076152 +Mystery solved +--- 58076166 +>>58076152 +same ukranians told to media that tb2s can auto land back to their base even after taking damage +--- 58076182 +>>58075456 +It is when the Ukrainians hide in them. +--- 58076189 +>>58076166 +they do +--- 58076201 +>>58075249 +Most were captured +--- 58076205 +>>58076152 +Does it mean that Russian radio-electronic warfare systems are working effectively now? +--- 58076215 +>>58076152 +Lol +lmao even +Where the glowies now? Dilating? +--- 58076218 +>>58076118 +They already did it a couple weeks into the war. +--- 58076219 +It's a TB2, 100%. +But why is it flying so low? +Front wheel extended? +--- 58076222 +>>58075249 +Didn't ukrainians sell 20 of them on a black market, just like some other equipment they get for free thanks to westerners' taxes? +--- 58076227 +>>58076205 +Does Russian Su-34 crashing into Yeysk mean that Ukrainian radio-electronic warfare systems covers Russia? +--- 58076228 +>>58076205 +>now + +its been reported they are successful since last year +--- 58076232 +what is the advantage of shooting down your own drone? +--- 58076238 +>>58076152 +>could lead to undesirable consequences +>gets show down by stinger after 20 minutes of local aboriginals firing their ak's at sky +>lands into civilian building +>sets it on fire +--- 58076242 +>>58075481 +monke "mentioned" it during his kabuki chimpout over the kraplin false flag "assassination attempt" +--- 58076249 +>>58076152 +So options are +>Lost drone control due to systems failure, decision to shoot down +>Local AA unit fucked up, make a cover up +I actually believe them, I'd imagine Ukies have a good situational picture of the airspace over kiev. If this happened during an air attack etc. it would probably be fratricide +>>58076205 +Extremely beyond the range of this type of EW +--- 58076253 +>>58075083 (OP) +Chinks have made a smaller copy of TB-2. Bayraktars are usually flying at higher altitudes. +--- 58076265 +>>58076205 +Ukros from the front reported that russians can disrupt any signal. It's just that they can not selectively disrupt only the ukrop ones. When they turn the switch both side goes blind and mute. +--- 58076289 +>>58075083 (OP) +Piss poor communication between AA and the drone pilots? Or maybe it flew during a missile/shaheed spam and air defence shot it down by accident +--- 58076330 +>>58075700 +Big Daddy Z was in The Netherlands anon. Husslin for some more of dem shoota's. +--- 58076371 +Haha, you guys are so fucking stupid. +I doesn't even look like a Korsar, and now it's confirmed to be a TB2. +You /k/ope and you seethe, and you ALWAYS lose. +--- 58076373 +>>58076232 +If you lost control it might be better to shoot it down before it flies over a populated area where it might crash and kill or injure civilians. +Shooting it down after it already reached into the populated area might give mixed results. +--- 58076375 +>>58076289 +There was no AA, ukies are just extremely trigger-happy and shoot at everything that flies above their head. Also a random Stinger shot it down. +--- 58076386 +>>58076232 +You prevent it crashing into something important? +--- 58076390 +>>58076219 +According to wiki those things can climb up to ~8km. My guess is that it lost the connection and went "idle" mode. That altitude of that TB2 is ~1km at best. +--- 58076571 +>Russians jam a drone +>Drone comes to low altitude and enters an idle state +>Air defense/TDF units with MANPADS and HMGs see a low-flying drone without clear rondels +>drone doesn't respond to communication +>They shoot it down + +It's unfortunate but in the end friendly fire happens in wartime +--- 58076573 +>>58076390 +>"idle" mode +Doubt they'd kill it if it was in any reasonable state. More likely it started to act erraticaly or even was suspected of control take-over. Or was on it's last leg of fuel about to fall anyway. +--- 58076582 +>>58076232 +>>58076219 +>>58076371 +already debunked. cope vatniks +--- 58076593 +>>58076571 +>drone jammed from 100km away +big if true +--- 58076598 +>>58075083 (OP) +>>58075116 +Bayraktar malfunctioned and got shot down +--- 58076606 +>>58076593 +Jammed, lost signal, the ukie drone operator short circuited something with a USB george foreman grill, who knows? Either way it was shot down. +--- 58076608 +>>58076598 +--- 58076640 +>>58075199 +what's that missile? +--- 58076715 +>>58075083 (OP) +Thats not Bayraktar +--- 58076723 +>>58075083 (OP) +Incompetence +--- 58076728 +>>58076715 +Ukie air force has confirmed it was theirs. +--- 58076743 +>>58076044 +>They received no help from Germany or from Austria-Hungary, neither did the Turks receive any help from Russian SFSR and the rest of commies, right ? +That's funny since it's the Greeks and Armenians that were allied with Russia. +Getting foreign arms doesn't change the fact that republican Turkey fought three enemies by itself with its own troops and leadership. +--- 58076757 +>>58076044 +>Turks receive any help from Russian SFSR and the rest of commies, right ? +Care to name these "other commies" in pre-WW2 Europe or Near East? +--- 58076766 +>>58076728 +I can make up fake screenshots using inspect element as well, zigger. +--- 58076798 +>>58076766 +It isn't fake, retard. Go to their facebook page (for some reason it is marked as spam by 4chan). +--- 58076983 +>>58076105 +>>58076121 +Both of those have retractable front landing gears. +--- 58077091 +>>58076757 +Sure Azerbaijan SSR and also for some reason help from Italy and the Greeks got help from the remnants of the Ottoman Empire. Wtf was going ? +--- 58077170 +>>58076152 +the TB-2 was so useful at the start of the war, but after that we haven't seen much of anything from it. Until today, and for all the wrong reasons. What happened? Supplanted by better alternatives? Or doesn't fit in the current strategies? +--- 58077233 +What even was the point of pretending it's not a TB2 on a hawaiian slow cooker forum? +--- 58077282 +>>58076766 +Anon, it is real. Equipment can malfunction, shit happens. +--- 58077372 +>>58077233 +Russians and their simps lie so often that it makes a smokescreen of occam's razor around genuine ukrainian mistakes +--- 58077437 +>>58077170 +It may be providing laser painting for Kvitnyk shells, for example. Wait for the end of this war, I'm 99% sure there will be a lot more TB2 footage +--- 58077473 +>>58075271 + +Why would a Ukrainian TB2 be cruising over the rooftops of Kyiv during a Russian wave of attacks? +--- 58077488 +>>58077372 +>but russians... +every time something bad happens to hohols your kind goes through such mental gymnastics no vatnik can compete, this thread being the prime example. DUUUDE ITS CORSAIR DRONE I DON'T CARE IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE TB-2 AND IF IT DOES IT'S A CHINESE COPY OH WELL THEY SAID IT REALLY WAS A TB-2 THEN IT WAS A PERFECTLY EXECUTED OPERATION +--- 58077489 +>>58075083 (OP) +I swear to fucking god I saw a UAV in brisbane, Australia a few days ago, flying low over an industrial area +--- 58077605 +>>58077170 +These are slow moving planes. It's not fancy technology. Shooting them down is trivial. The reason they were effective in the beginning is because the fighting was dynamic and chaotic, and the russians were unprepared to fight enemy airplanes. They thought the war would be over quickly. Now that it is static and they are established, plus the AAA soldiers have experience with combating these drones, they shoot them down without problem. The halcyon days of TB2 in this war are over. +--- 58077906 +>>58075997 +It's okay, the bismarc couldn't kill some slow ass swordfish. +--- 58078354 +>>58077170 +unironically the Russians turned their air defenses on only after getting absolutely booty blasted first. +--- 58078453 +>>58075379 +>1v1 +1v1 me bro, top lane. + +Reminder that you need to be 18 to post on this site. +--- 58078500 +>>58075083 (OP) +One of the most dangerous threats in WWII was friendly AA. You've got a truck full of missiles and a radar contact its go time the identification part is just so finicky and tiresome +--- 58078541 +>>58076373 +anon.... it crashed in a populated area......... +--- 58078592 +>>58076105 +>injection molded gray + +Don't know why but I hate this. There must be some suppressed modelmaking trauma in my past. +--- 58078664 +>>58075777 +Also the prop stream across the tailfins will enhance their effect in extreme conditions like stalling at landing or getting blown sideways. Trading efficiency. +--- 58078903 +>>58075104 +cope +--- 58078915 +>>58075156 +no, it's a TB2. +--- 58078927 +>>58075220 +it's an Uk TB2, lol. +--- 58079281 +>>58076218 +and other fantasies vatniks tell themselves. +--- 58079288 +>>58076222 +No, that's the desperate cope you cane up with to erode support from the west. As with everything you do, it didn't work. +--- 58079444 +>>58077488 ++1 rupee +--- 58080202 +>just buy turkshit, they said +--- 58080507 +>>58076105 +yeah but the one on kiev is 3 blade rotor +--- 58080740 +>>58080202 +Ukrainians are slavs. +You can't expect monkeys to be able to operate equipment with any kind intelligence. +--- 58081018 +>>58075242 +Yes. Russia so candidly gives warning to Ukrainians to move their decision making centers before they strike them. How nice of them. Did they include misscle eta as well in that letter too. +--- 58081066 +>>58080740 +Real +People forget this war is just low IQ white niggers killing low IQ while niggers +--- 58081196 +>>58077605 +TB2 bros... we're done... +--- 58081458 +Every second post is seething about losing a single drone. +It fucking happens who the fuck cares. You are making out look like a huge deal. Ukraine has more from where that came from. +--- 58081642 +>>58079281 +https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-releases-prisoners-combat-experience-war-russia-volodymyr-zelensky-1683175 +Guss I was wrong, it happened less than a week into the conflict. diff --git a/k/58075097.txt b/k/58075097.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b91b3fd65862f63118f10ad03570d39592554754 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58075097.txt @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +----- +--- 58075097 +How are you fags holding up + +Discuss guns, shooting, and how faggot liberals are. In my opinion if you are a leftist you are the enemy of the constitution + +I’m seeing good news from Illinois’s AWB court case, I’m hopeful about the AWB being struck down on constitutional grounds. + +Thread question: is this lower legal to import? Is it a form of “Colt AR-15” that’s banned by name? Because the lower by itself has zero features that are banned. It uses a proprietary bolt carrier group so its similarities to the AR-15 are coincidental, I believe it’s it’s own firearm. +--- 58076223 +it sucks here +>is this lower legal to import? +have one shipped to idaho, drive over, grab it, drive back, and dont tell anyone. Works for everything +--- 58076282 +>>58075097 (OP) +Sauce? I want that and I live in a free state. +--- 58076536 +>>58075097 (OP) +How do we sell guns now? Like private transfers, truck sales? What if I want to sell a gun out of state? +--- 58076553 +>>58076536 +sell privately and dont let the government know +--- 58076580 +>>58075097 (OP) +some retard could interpret "AR-15 in all forms" to apply to that lower. Also, the upper would be illegal to buy and you'd have to get a barrel with no muzzle device. Sorry bro. +--- 58076974 +>>58075097 (OP) +people need to realise how absolutely over the united states is and that we live in a society more oppressive than the late soviet union +--- 58077083 +>>58076282 +Fightlite SCR + +Expensive for an AR lower ($650-700 last time I checked), almost no parts commonality with regular AR lowers, uses its own proprietary bolt carrier and the wood furniture versions are constantly out of stock. + +Definitely good build quality though and a lot of people actually prefer the ergos and shooting characteristics over a regular AR pattern lower. + +Trigger is better than the generic GI ones, about on the level of a midrange aftermarket AR one. + +It has a FAL style buffer system with a rat tail on the back of the bolt carrier and a sealed buffer spring in the stock so the recoil impulse is very gentle even for 5.56. +--- 58078932 +>I’m seeing good news from Illinois’s AWB court case, I’m hopeful about the AWB being struck down on constitutional grounds. + +just went back into effect. my lower JUST arrived at the ffl today but they dont do transfers so i was going to go tomorrow. its over +--- 58078988 +>>58075097 (OP) +you faggots voted for this, you deserve everything you get lol you're worse than California. +--- 58079073 +>>58075097 (OP) +Sucks here, but thankfully stocked up pre-ban. But didn't get to source a couple things I wanted. Fingers crossed SCOTUS goes ham up here. + +If only our state didn't elect beaurocrats like King Inslee and fudd-erson. I miss when the PNW was based. +--- 58079174 +Isn't the ruger 10/22 exempted in Washington? I would just rock that fucker in all varieties of stocks if I lived in washington. Or does putting a stock with a cover on the barrel make it illegal cause muh features +--- 58080318 +>>58078988 +Nope, the i5 corridor did. My family has been here since the 50's(from hillbilly states) when it was the free-ist of states. I'm not leaving, those faggots can return to cali, + +Only a few years back it was in the top 1/4 of best gun states in the US +--- 58080343 +>>58080318 +>I'm not leaving, those faggots can return to cali +Based +--- 58080354 +>>58075097 (OP) +stuck here for another year or two regardless so stocking up on ammo until they pass some gay bullshit restricting that, too. utah seems nice. +--- 58080428 +>>58078988 +Enough with this shit. It's a coordinated globohomo nationwide disarmament campaign. Political tools got into office on monkey gibs, demoralized NPCs, and boxes of "registered voters" rolled in at 4am. No, "they" didn't vote for this and no matter where you live it's coming to kick you in the balls next. +--- 58080619 +>>58076974 +This. +>>58076223 +This glows. You can't get a firearm shipped to an address outside of your home state. +--- 58080739 +>>58080318 +me either. we wait for the incoming tech bust and maybe the earthquake to clear techmales out. +--- 58080806 +Do you think this pizza delivery guy is a Paul Harrel subscriber? +https://www.theolympian.com/news/local/crime/article274698896.html +--- 58080963 +>>58077083 +neat. freestater here, and i want one too +--- 58081652 +>>58075097 (OP) +the fitelite is legal in commie california because of the sporter configuration. The lower is the firearm. They sell it the lower with the bcg, bolt, rat tail and the unique stock, wood or plastic. you can buy and fit any standard AR upper for it. The lower is a bit pricey but you can use your standard AR mags. +--- 58081747 +>>58075097 (OP) +/olympicpeninsula/ checking in diff --git a/k/58075659.txt b/k/58075659.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..760cb78c58a732f39a5d31d3c269a920ed0954f2 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58075659.txt @@ -0,0 +1,209 @@ +----- +--- 58075659 +Previous thread: >>58022119 → +May nights edition + +Resource on what these spec terminology mean +https://www.nite-walker.com/post/2019/11/21/specs-for-dummies-101 +https://apollogearco.com/blogs/news/night-vision-specs-explained +https://gloomgroup.com/blogs/night-vision-info/night-vision-specifications-understanding-what-they-mean + +You shouldn't be chasing for spec values but they do exist and if you wanted to know what "better spec" values are there's a way to know which unit is desirable over another. +Most retailers won't post this info as they build NVDs to order, first come first serve, and depending on their grading scale of high, mid, low tier it may differ from retailers. If a retailer offer a “ready to ship” fully built units they will list the spec values. Hand select is an option from retailers that will try to match to your spec requirements. + +Some reputable retailers: +https://www.jrhenterprises.com/ +https://nvisionoptics.com/ +https://www.customnightvision.com/ +https://gooningear.com/ +https://apollogearco.com +https://blackphasetactical.com/ +https://steeleindustries.com/ + +SNR: signal to noise ratio, the amount of signal the tube can make compared to the noise +EBI: equivalent background information, how much false image appears in the screen through which the actual image has to show, sort of a noise floor of sorts +Halo: How big the circle of bloom is around lights +Photocathode Sensitivity: How sensitive the photocathode is +LP Resolution: Line pair res of the center of the image as measure against a standardized chart + +If one spec is shit it negates the rest, if you have a halo of 2.0 it kinda fucks on an EBI of 0.20 if you want to do any kind of shooting and it's all a balance game + +The numbers to meet or beat are +EBI under 1, preferably under 0.6 being great, 0.1 is gucci +Halo under 1, anything under 0.7 is awesome +SNR, over 25 anything over 30 is gucci +Photocathode, 1900+ is pretty great, 2500+ is stellar +Resolution of 64+ is good, 72+ is gucci +--- 58075763 +What would it cost to harvest my tubes and have them placed in a dedicated dualtube unit, and would it be worth it? +--- 58075808 +>>58075763 +If you do it yourself, it would be anywhere from 1-2k depending on the housing you go with. You'll basically be pulling the glass from the PVS-14s as well. Other than that you'll have to see how much it'll cost for the labor from somewhere else. +--- 58075874 +>>58075808 +I know next to nothing about dual housings. What quality options do I have? Anything with articulation like a panobridge setup? +--- 58076188 +>>58075361 → +AK with Zenitco furniture. I can mount on the side if I'm desperate though but the top rail is awkward and allows very limited positioning. +--- 58076332 +>>58073342 → +>>58073382 → + +The Nightfox Cape has an IR-off mode. You can't see shit without an external IR source, but if you're looking for hostile IR emissions that's exactly what it'll do. +--- 58076707 +>>58075659 (OP) +<-$200 +--- 58076797 +>>58075874 +Check out everything here: https://www.customnightvision.com/product-category/nightvision/housings-kits/ +In any case, the BNVD 1431s are the most cost effective option, the Katanas the lightest, and the DTNVS the most gucci. There's also the RPNVGs but I've heard mixed reviews on them. +--- 58076836 +>>58076188 +Bummer. Would a 1/4" riser help clear it? I have my FL5 mounted on a Midwest Industries railed gas tube. +--- 58076844 +>>58076836 +Yes a Hydra Riser +--- 58076980 +Anon who made this, do you have a pic of it mounted on your rifle? +--- 58077090 +From last bread... +>>58073382 → +>I wouldn't even say they're good for observation because you're still limited by the resolution of the screen. Something far away could only show up as a couple pixels. +If you get up to the SiOnyx Aurora level they are useful for close to medium range observation, provided there is sufficient light. For the standard Auroras this means quite a bit of moon regardless of settings. The Pro model, at 15 fps B&W, is actually very good down to less than a quarter moon, and still shows you more than naked eye under starlight. An Aurora Pro would definitely be useful for scouting/observing nearby buildings, areas where people could hide at night, and also vehicles at medium distance. + +Gen 3 is far better of course. But there are various reasons why someone might end up with an Aurora instead (budget) or in addition to (2nd device; filming). I have thin filmed gen 3 and while it is far better than the Pro, I would still consider someone with a Pro to be a credible threat to my ability to move undetected. +--- 58077288 +>>58076980 +Calm down, I just made it and I'm still at work! Also, iirc I will have to relocate a rail after I cook dinner and watch Gilligan, so I will post late. In the meantime, I bench tested the action, and for those who don't know, a light press activates switch closure (momentary on) and push till "click" is on-latching. That means on and hold on... very positive click function, actual Unity product, not knock-off from Laserspeed website, which is VERY tempting! +--- 58077503 +>>58077288 +I WILL NOT CALM DOWN. You must leave your place of employment NOW and indulge my requests. +checked +--- 58077775 +>>58077288 +I'd be interested in buying if you make more. Also other switch options would be cool, like surefire dual switches. +--- 58077823 +>>58076836 +Maybe, but that adds on significant weight which defeats the purpose of going with the FL5 which is lighter than the M3. I am considering picking up the M3 as well - maybe that QD mount will fit better. +--- 58077972 +>>58077288 +>Calm down +He's calmer than you are. +--- 58078003 +>>58077503 +Nice! I will do that! +>>58077775 +>interested in buying +Meh, I have a full bench at home minus microscope, but it could happen. I'd rather use leverage with my LS contact and have them swith out connector socket for pnp function. But that won't happen by Q3, so I could hook you up. The Elcebee or some clever chink fuck name is a rather bulky boot and I have not looked for superior. It does make it easy to work with. +--- 58078019 +>>58077972 +>He's calmer than you are. +>i just got paid to work my stuff +Ehh, maybe. +--- 58078122 +I just got my first pvs14 in mail. Looking at the spec sheet, I see there are min, max, and actual specs. My spec sheet gives an actual snr number but not a min or max. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated. +--- 58078152 +>>58078122 +Usually gen 3 tubes are 24 SNR min with no max. L3 will start batching their tubes if you go above 40 SNR I think +--- 58078201 +>>58078152 +What do you mean by batching? The actual is 39 for mine. +--- 58078218 +>>58078201 +nta but +>39 SNR +WEW LAD, that's awesome! What is your LP resolution? +--- 58078262 +>>58078003 +Yeah bro, hook it up or provide links to all the parts. I could build it but don't feel like trying to track down all the right parts. +--- 58078305 +>>58078218 +64 min 64 actual +Please fill me in on what you know about these specs. I want to know if i got ripped off or not. +--- 58078392 +>>58078305 +Not bad for head mounted wear, I was expecting a higher LP res because of that super nice SNR. +Anyways, to answer your question. +>I want to know if i got ripped off or not. +I don't think you did, a SNR of 39 and LP res of 64 is very good and respectable imo, and since people like FOM (SNR times LP res) value you have a FOM of 2496. +What did you pay for the PVS-14, and what was the tube manufacture was it Elbit or L3 if you don't know this then do you recall if the place you ordered it from listed it as a thin-film/thinfilm or a filmless/unfilmed? This would give a better indicator if you got "ripped off". +Generally thinfilm will go for less than unfilmed and unless the thinfilm is aviation grade (high spec, no blem) it won't usually reach the upper price point of unfilmed tubes. +Regarding specs and what they mean, checkout the OP's link to understand what they mean. My L3 spec sheet does not list max for all available test but will list min values, so its not uncommon to see some values are missing, it has to do with ITAR I believe and they don't want to let adversaries to know what the upper limit of these devices have. +--- 58078485 +>>58078392 +What about these numbers? I am mostly concerned about these min, max, and actual categories. Are these different testing scenarios? This dude on leddit posted his whole spec sheet, check out the format. +https www reddit.com/r/NightVision/comments/yror97/new_to_night_vision_which_pvs14_based_on_spec/ +Some spaces read --- so maybe they just didn't get to that part of the test before it failed to meet military standards. +--- 58078580 +>>58078485 +>Some spaces read --- +Some testing did not have a min or max value to put down, like burn-in (ess) its a boolean of pass or no pass. Or the the screen test, it either works i.e. "OK" or it is busted and fails this and they need to replace the tube and would not sell it. +Those that have values in the "actual" but the min or max have "---", this to me is them blocking the value to not release it to the public so adversaries would not know the limit of the intensifier tubes supposed min or max capabilities. Many people post their entire spec sheet to the public, technically it is against ITAR to do this but I haven't heard of anyone getting busted by the feds for doing it but some forums/website (arfcom) will get rid of the picture to adhere to ITAR. +My L3 spec sheet is exactly like that reddit post where not everything has a value in the min or max and instead it has "---". +If you want to find out more of what values these can have there is the Omni classification for military contracts for NVDs, they will list minimums and maximums but there are many Omni classification and the current contract is VIII but XI is out there but last I checked there is no official release of this classification values to the public yet. This was the last rumor/speculation I saw of Omni XI. +--- 58078707 +>>58078580 +Big thanks anon. I hope my specs are so high they are top secret. +--- 58078735 +>>58078580 +>XI +Woops messed up my roman numerals, meant to say IX (9). +--- 58078929 +>>58077288 +>after I cook dinner and watch Gilligan +Dinner is on... +>preez forgive my humbow interpletation of Razor Speed pleshure switch +Inb4 everybody is now an art clitic... +--- 58079106 +>>58078003 +>Nice! I will do that! +okay, thank you :3 +--- 58079141 +>>58077823 +>significant weight +How much do you think a small riser weighs? +>defeats the purpose of going with the FL5 which is lighter than the M3 +It takes away the nearly negligible weight advantage unless you can't handle an extra 1.5 oz. The key difference is it still has a white light for around the M3's weight so it could be worth it for some. +>maybe that QD mount will fit better. +I'm sure it would offer better clearance. +--- 58079292 +>>58078580 +>those that have values in the "actual" but the min or max have "---", this to me is them blocking the value to not release it +This is wrong, the Max/Min refer to the Maximum and minimum acceptable values. If there's no max than it simply means that they don't care how high a value they get as long as it meets the minimum. (And vice versa for if there's no min value given). e.g For a SNR anything under 24.1 will get tossed into the trash but there's no maximum value that will cause the tube to fail inspection. +--- 58079534 +>>58079106 +10.5 hr day np. I'll have you know I missed Gilligan for this. +>before +--- 58079538 +>>58079534 +2/3 +>honkey +--- 58079545 +>>58079538 +That looks good mate! +--- 58079547 +>>58079538 +3/3 +--- 58079570 +>>58079545 +>broke my last ziptie +Thx. M-loc and picrail cable management clips in the mail +--- 58080113 +>>58079534 +>>58079538 +>>58079545 +>>58079547 +Thanks, big fella. Much appreciated. Now go watch Gilligan's Island. +--- 58080134 +>>58079534 +The stock plug is way too fucking long. What were they thinking. +--- 58080282 +Approved at 288 days. You can make it. +--- 58080340 +>>58080134 +long plug is long +--- 58080406 +>>58080282 +I got disapproved at 272... my form 23 didn't have my trust's address and my FFL didn't proofread it before submitting and they're the ones who put my trust info in +--- 58081476 +bump diff --git a/k/58075801.txt b/k/58075801.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4a9c80597e123ae22fd270984127089f8b53c538 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58075801.txt @@ -0,0 +1,362 @@ +----- +--- 58075801 +post about gear and call other people faggots +old: >>58044886 → +--- 58075812 +1st for Sri Lankan quality +--- 58075847 +how I feel knowing all of your tax dollars paid for me to jerk off in the the desert +--- 58075865 +Just copped for 60 +Toughts? +--- 58075870 +>>58075847 +I don't pay taxes +--- 58075886 +>sordins came in +>lost my baofeng to test out the comms +kill me +--- 58075900 +>>58075870 +that's ok I still nutted anyways +--- 58075962 +>>58075847 +If the portajohn is a rockin', don't come a knockin' +--- 58076024 +>>58075962 +was blasting off in a portashitter with no lock in 135 degree heat once and a chick opened the door like woman did you not hear me grunting like a retarded chimpanzee either close the door or give me a hand +--- 58076202 +>>58075801 (OP) +>>58075847 +Is there a /gq/ approved tactical cum rag? +--- 58076262 +>>58076187 +Whats wrong with a steel plate +--- 58076266 +>>58076187 +So what's the replacement for hesco 4401 now that it's no longer NIJ certed? +--- 58076276 +>>58076262 +A thick enough steel plate may stop a projectile, but it wont absorb the energy as well and will still fuck you up. +--- 58076283 +Opinions on what sort of medical stuff I should get for my work van? +It came with a basic first aid kit, but it's pretty cheap and basic. +For context, I'm I'm mobile technician, and I go out to some reasonably remote places to work on stuff, and the factory guys occasionally don't grind the burrs off of the plates before assembling and shipping, as well as having to squeeze through some tight places. We service ATMs, so there's a risk of having a nignog come up to us and try to score some easy money, but it hasn't happened in my area yet. I picked up some bandages and gauze and stuff as extra, but was wondering on opinions from you guys. +--- 58076335 +>>58076262 +heavy +sends bullet fragments into your arms and neck +does not stop 5.56, the most common rifle threat in america +flat as a board, once you pay the fee for them to curve it it's not even all that cheap +--- 58076443 +People are really in here buying medical supplies off Amazon and AliExpres, lmao. +--- 58076754 +>>58076443 +i've been seriously thinking about getting C.A.T.s from aliexpress for TRAINING ONLY, they sell 10 for 20€ (plus shipping) +--- 58076758 +>>58076266 +People talk up the 5.56 zap angle, but it goes much further than that, any FMJ going faster than 3200fps will destroy steel. So effectively every hunting cartridge in North America. +This, and a complete lack of AP protection, there are no steel plates that handle even 7.62x39 API. Kind of a problem now that standard issue ammo is M855a1 and M80a1. + +>>58076266 +My opinion is to put the SAS Hexar alumina IV back instead. 299 each, 8lbs, OMGWTF multihit performance. The pedestrian Apex-shilled plates like the 4s17m offer nothing over that Hexar panel. + +In line with the 4401, I wonder when Hesco is getting off their ass and releasing their fresh lineup they teased last year. +--- 58076997 +>>58076276 +unless you have a specific cushion behind your armor, no armor absorbs energy. it just spreads it out from a point that is the same diameter as the bullet to your whole chest. +from a physics perspective there is some energy disapation when the bullet and the armor deform, but that's about it. +--- 58077140 +What's the deal with BALCS? Why isn't it the standard for armor for the everyman? +>covers most likely domestic threats +>scales up with additional of plates +>frag protection by default +>carriers distribute weight better than petite plate carriers +--- 58077155 +>>58075865 +Not bad if not super old and you don't qualify for discounted rates. +--- 58077262 +>>58076997 + >>58076276 +Too bad that common rifles do jackshit for behind armor damage. Between spreading impact energy over a 10x12 plate, lateral dissipation of force through the ceramic, dwell time robbing energy every nanosecond and the sharp divide between ceramic and polyethylene, you arent doing anything major to the person behind the plate. + +Even a completely inflexible steel plate should have no issues with behind armor effects provided it stops the round. + +POINT ME TO A SINGLE FATALITY FROM BEHIND-HARD-ARMOR TRAUMA OR THIS IS FUDDLORE +--- 58077263 +>>58077140 +Doesn't look as cool as hard plates in a carrier on the 'gram. +--- 58077268 +>>58077140 +What the fuck are you talking about? +--- 58077319 +>>58076754 +Honestly not a bad idea, should buy the orange one so you don't run the risk of mixing them up. +--- 58077343 +>>58077268 +The meta for larperators is standalone plates in minimalist carriers, this is dumb because that setup evolved in an environment where the users were being ferried to their objectives and engaging in lightning strike raids. Most citizens that fancy themselves potential combatants would benefit from the BALCS ( basic armor load carriage system) style setup where rifle plates are backed by soft armor in a carrier that distributes weight far more efficiently. If you found yourself in a situation where you need to don a plate carrier in anger you are likely going to want frag protection and a way to carry a full combat load and sustainment. +>The everyman is trying to be elite larperators +>The everyman should equip themselves for basic soldiering instead +--- 58077352 +>>58077140 +Because a BALCS carrier is far more expensive than a plate carrier. +>Midwest Armor BALCS +>380 +>BCS BALCS Carrier +>300 +>Hesco 4400 set +>300 +You're in almost 1000 dollars for the cheapest, non Chinese set up. Add in side plates and it's well over 1000. +--- 58077359 +is there good ifak (other than LBT-9022B) in AOR1? +--- 58077451 +>>58077140 +It doesn't really make sense to wear soft armor under modern stand alone plates. +and if you want the additional coverage you can throw cheap side panels in the cummerbund of a cheaper and easier to find PC +--- 58077788 +I was thinking about joining my local rescue squad to gain FA experience and knowledge. However, I'm not sure what level they train to. + +Other then being a volunteer EMT, what are some good resources for First Aid self study? Is it possible to reach or get close to the skill level of a combat medic as a civilian? +--- 58077838 +>Crye out of stock +>Beyond out of stock +I'm ready to not run around innawoods wearing BDU anymore but everything I'd want to buy in woodland is gone. Is this shit ever coming back or am I going to be being forced to take the Zog pill? +--- 58077841 +>>58075801 (OP) +Any more gear like this? +--- 58077851 +>>58077841 +Here's another. I only have 2 saved. I want more. +--- 58077858 +>>58077841 +glownigger shitting across multiple boards >>>/pol/425852833 +--- 58077887 +>>58077140 +>Why isn't it the standard for armor for the everyman? +because its fucking annoying to actually wear +>>58077343 +your average moron here is actually less likely to see frag/explosive threats than they are rifle threats +soldiers are more likely to see frag/explosive threats, primarily do to IEDs in COIN or due to artillery in LSCO +--- 58077900 +>>58077851 +>>58077841 +You want to gargle cum? I have lots of cum +--- 58078424 +I’m building my chest rig and I need to fit 2 pistol mags, and 4 rifle mags on the kit. So far it’s all Spiritus systems stuff, and I’m throwing a mini dangler on the bottom for an IFAK + +Where would be a good place to store the second pistol mag? I’m trying to avoid throwing stuff on a battle belt as much as possible +--- 58078502 +>>58075865 +Good if not expired in 2007. I need to refresh. + +>>58075962 +>>58076024 +We had quals once at range we don’t normally use and there was a porta potty there. We are on break when a female agent goes in and we hear the distinctive double kerplump of two Sig mags down the hatch. Range dude said those are gone forever. + +>>58077343 +I’m old school and just kept my soft inserts after I finally upgraded my plates. Mine aren’t exact BALCS cut so I have a small gap on the sides. +--- 58078530 +>>58078424 +i don't want to shit on your idea, but have you considered just ditching the pistol altogether (for the chest rig) and replacing the mag pouch with a full size multitool instead? +--- 58078587 +My fit +--- 58078657 +>>58078530 +That’s an option. I was originally going to have double stacked mags (6) in front, and have a multitool and flashlight or something in the side JSTA pouch. I found out I only need 4+1 rifle mags so this setup worked well. I can easily put a multitool in next to the 4th AR mag + +The issue is where do I put the 2+1 pistol mags? +--- 58078712 +>>58078502 +Why was she keeping sig mags in her backup prison wallet? I'd beat off at least once per tower guard shift, day or night didn't matter +>>58078587 +Not a bad start anon, now do a layout for the class to see +>>58078657 +Is using a belt an option at all? +--- 58078778 +>>58078424 +>>58078657 +Keep pistol related stuff on a belt. Loaded gun in holster + 2 spare mags. I keep 1 rifle mag behind the pistol mags and that's my primary reload for my rifle. IFAK w/TQ at 6 o'clock. Dump pouch if you find it handy. I also recently added an Arbor Arms 16oz Nalgene pouch to my belt at about 4 o'clock. Fits any mass produced bottled water as well. Some guys like to keep water on their chest rig or carrier, but I kind of like it on the belt so far. + +Keep your chest rig primarily geared toward supporting the rifle. +--- 58078797 +>>58078712 +I told my gf who used to work probation that she had two prison wallets so she should hold my car keys. +--- 58078806 +>>58078712 +>>58078778 +Belt is a possibility. I want to be able to run my chest rig without a belt though and be set + +At the very least, Im open to running the pistol mags on a belt, and keeping the IFAK on the chest rig for when I don’t need to run a pistol. + +I also wanna throw a little BFG dump pouch on the back strap of the chest rig (or somewhere on it) +--- 58078891 +>>58078806 +Where do you currently have the pistol? I would assume a belt of some kind. There are kydex mag carriers that can be used with any standard 1.5" EDC belt. + +Only reason I keep my IFAK on my belt is because I pretty much don't foresee a situation for myself where the belt doesn't go on well ahead of the chest rig or PC. That said, I haven't ruled out adding a dangler for meds to my setup. I've avoided it because I'm just not a fan of danglers. +--- 58078900 +>>58077838 +>obsolete camo for my gram +>worried about doing a wrong think +You've already taken the consoom pill, what's to worry? +--- 58078909 +>>58078891 +There's no rule saying you need just one IFAK. I've got a dangler on my vest, one on my belt, one on my assault pack that I use for the range, and one strapped to the passenger seat of my car. +--- 58078952 +Recently picked up one of these Hgear ABU vests for super cheap. The camo is ugly as hell, but I really dig it. It's got enough webbing for a light load of mags, and the back panel can take hydration. Currently have a 3liter, but soon to swap out for a 1.5 liter. Not the most turbo high speed but I think the price was a steal. +--- 58078953 +>>58078891 +I haven’t even started setting up my belt yet, but the pistol will be on my 3 o’clock. If there are Kydex holsters with double mag retention, that would be nice + +We won’t always need the pistol, so id like everything else on my chest rig. +--- 58078974 +>>58078909 +I know. I've just been avoiding adding a dangler. I've got a car med kit, and my tiny boo-boo kit with band-aids, neosporin, eye drops, etc is in part of a pouch on my placard. I just don't like danglers, but it really seems like it's only a matter of time until I add one... + +How's the Ferro Mini Dangler? Big enough for the usual IFAK ingredients? +--- 58078983 +>>58078900 +Never used instagram. Just always ran around in the woods in woodland. Since I was kid. Just like woodland. Looks cool. Simple as. Don't like multicam. Sick of wearing BDU. You're a faggot btw. +--- 58078999 +>>58076754 +>expressly for training +no problem at all, literally what I did for my classes +>well... i mean... how much worse can they be? +no +--- 58079014 +>>58067973 → +well, I bought one from them. if they complain hopefully they'll accept a bill as proof of address. if not I guess I'll just cancel the order and refund it +--- 58079050 +>>58078424 +>>58078974 +The Ferro mini dangler is what I bought. It’s supposed to have enough space for normal IFAK stuff +--- 58079064 +>>58077140 +It's heavy and hot as shit to wear for less protection than a plate carrier. It's also too thick to be worn covertly underneath normal clothing. If you're putting on a full armor carrier and carrying a rifle to face a threat then you should assume that threat could be armed with a rifle. You're not going to be around this armor carrier if you're at work or anywhere the most likely domestic threats are going to occur, so why not get thinner concealable soft armor that you can more readily wear instead? +--- 58079102 +>grenade pouch: radio +>GP/SAW pouch: IFAK +>dump pouch +>BFG tourniquet holder +What would you do here? I can fit my IFAK in a much smaller pouch since it's vacuum sealed into a brick. Also I don't like the TQ being so exposed. +--- 58079123 +>>58079102 +>GP/SAW pouch +That's a canteen pouch +>I can fit my IFAK in a much smaller pouch +perhaps a dedicated IFAK pouch +>Also I don't like the TQ being so exposed +You have a lot of USGI pouches on there already, might as well grap the USGI TQ pouch +--- 58079252 +WTF I like KYWIs now? +--- 58079260 +>>58079123 +Eh I’ve thrown my nods into a canteen pouch lots of times. It just werks +--- 58079303 +>>58079260 +What is the chain of thought to the previous comment here? +--- 58079321 +>>58079260 +sure I throw pop tarts and shit in mine all the time in the field, but it's still called a canteen pouch and not a saw pouch +--- 58079396 +>>58079260 +>GP/SAW pouch +When I think of a GP pouch, I think of somewhere you can securely store NVGs. I know it’s just a “general purpose” pouch, but that’s what comes to my mind + +>>58079321 +I rarely used my canteen for the canteen, unless it was required for whatever reason +--- 58079403 +Picked these up at a yard sale the other day. The big one on the right was $10, the one next to it with the flag patch was $40, the smaller one was $20, and the fanny pack was $5. All except the big ten dollar one are brand new with tags on. +--- 58079442 +>>58079064 +>less protection than a plate carrier +Explain +--- 58079503 +>>58079123 +That makes sense, I was wondering why it felt bigger than my ifak pouch. +--- 58079737 +>>58079396 +yeah even in the sandbox I didnt use canteen, just camelbacks and plastic waterbottles +--- 58079738 +>>58076283 +Basic wound care stuff, the little bottles of saline, antiseptics, different sizes of bandaid dressings +>>58077788 +>Is it possible to reach or get close to the skill level of a combat medic as a civilian? +Go and get a job as a Paramedic and work in a shithole city with 100 shootings per day. +--- 58079771 +>>58079442 +Unless you're wearing rifle rated plates in conjunction with the soft armor (the same plates that would be worn in a plate carrier) then you've only got 3A protection. +--- 58079841 +>>58079771 +>the same plates that would be worn in a plate carrier) +Oh wow you're using lightweight ICW plates in your carrier without soft armor? You really shouldn't. +--- 58079921 +>>58079841 +Learn to read faggot, I never said ICW plates. 3A armor isn't going to stop 5.56. +--- 58079973 +I swear to Christ this website somehow manages to get dumber by the day +--- 58080419 +What suspenders do I get for a slick battle belt? +--- 58080440 +>>58075801 (OP) +Whats a good molle canteen/water pouch for a chest rig? +--- 58080481 +>>58079973 +ur well cum +--- 58080518 +>>58080440 +Depends on what bottle you have. Canteen? USGI Canteen pouch is hard to beat. Other water bottle? Depends on what size it is +--- 58080546 +>>58075886 +Look man if your comms plan is a whole 30$ then you're doing something wrong. Its "move, shoot & communicate" not "shoot, maybe move a little and what we have left we communicate with" This is a good time to get something better, like a DMR radio +--- 58080587 +>>58080440 +I wouldn't recommend running anything bigger than 16 oz/disposable bottle on a chest rig. It constantly feels in the way. Just my $0.02 +--- 58080821 +>>58080440 +You don't put a fucking water bottle on a chest rig you retard. Do you duct tape hot dogs to the front of your t-shirt so you can have a snack while you're walking around during the day? +--- 58081257 +>>58075865 +youre the retard italian, right? +1. you have no idea how to use any of this and have zero training +2. its all expired (except the israelis, which are shit dressings to begin with). you can see literal holes in the quickclot packaging. +what a fucking total moron, jesus christ. you could have gotten an actual usable first aid kit for half those $60. +--- 58081333 +This might be a stupid question +But what mag pouches are good for SCAR-H mags? +--- 58081539 +>>58080440 +Don't listen to the naysayers, water bottle on a chest rig is good if you don't like camelbaks. In any case, the Eagle surplus canteen pouches work well for both nalgenes and canteens. +--- 58081597 +>>58081333 +Basically any .308 magazine pouch out there. Kydex, tacos, bungee, flapped, etc. should all fix Scar mags no problem. +--- 58081607 +>>58077841 +>>58077851 +>3 mags +>no water +ngmi +--- 58081618 +>>58078712 +>2 mags +>no water +ngmi +--- 58081688 +>>58080821 +>Do you duct tape hot dogs to the front of your t-shirt so you can have a snack while you're walking around during the day? +Not him, but I had a soldier in my platoon who kept cooked hot dogs and buns in his cargo pockets lines with tin foil. He would offer them to people (I was the only one to take him up on it) and we'd eat them. It was rad. +>>58081607 +>>58081618 +blessed be you water autist +--- 58081790 +>>58081688 +I mean, they're cooked and you're probably going to eat them in a few hours from being heated to kill temp for bacteria. Hot dogs are a pretty damn good quick food if you have mustard and kraut. Buns might get pretty smooshed in a cargo pocket. You have to secure them to your head +--- 58081805 +>>58081790 +army cargo pockets are roomy as hell on most pants you can fit a ton of shit in them +--- 58081816 +>>58081539 +just put it on your belt? +--- 58081862 +>>58081816 +Worse in almost all cases than having it on the cummerbund in my experience. diff --git a/k/58075846.txt b/k/58075846.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1e01a98fb0f023bf495971f0f76bebc469b8edf1 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58075846.txt @@ -0,0 +1,591 @@ +----- +--- 58075846 +We all know how comically overhyped most of the Russian arsenal has turned out to be, but are there any weapons or weapon systems that have proven themselves or even overperformed in some capacity? And if not, which parts of the Russian arsenal turned out to be the least shit? +--- 58075955 +>>58075846 (OP) +>proven itself +The AK. And only due to how cheap it is. +>overperformed +kek no +That's it. Don't look at Russian vehicles or even heavy weapons like rpgs for quality. They've gotten hilariously clapped every single fucking time they've faced anything western. +--- 58075975 +Their ATGMs? Everyone already knew what they were like. Just dumb, simple, direct-impact goodness with big warheads. +Arguably though, their failure to bring their modern missiles into service is another failure. +--- 58076021 +t80 series is good. every vid of a tank on tank engagement has been a t80 knocking out something else iirc +lancet is good +uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh +--- 58076033 +>>58075846 (OP) +their nuke capability, whether it's real or not, has proven pretty effective as a deterrent - if russia didn't have nukes to wave around as a threat they'd have been shitting teeth within the first month. +--- 58076043 +>>58075846 (OP) +I don't think anyone expected the Lancet to do as well as it has. +--- 58076050 +GAZ Tigr is unironically looked fondly upon by both ziggers and ukes alike, a simple, no nonsense reliable machine +--- 58076062 +>>58075846 (OP) +The most successful rusian gear is the one that is 2nd rate but cheap enough to be produced in large numbers and soldto 3rd world for bananas. AK, Mig-21, T-55, BTR, SA-2, etc. + +The rest is quite shit. +--- 58076090 +>>58075846 (OP) +>which parts of the Russian arsenal turned out to be the least shit? +Well, their electronic warfare capablilities are so strong they dont just jam the enemies radar, they also jam their own + +Its kinda hard to gauge if there is any good kit on the russian side right. Ow because +1 its used my u motivated conscripts with incompetent commandeds +2 a lot of it hasnt been manufactured to on paper specifications +So even if they did design something good on paper, it would still fail in practice + +I guess you could say the iskander has preformed pretty well? +--- 58076109 +>>58075846 (OP) +The Mig-15 was pretty good over Korea, it did spend a long time shooting down ww2 vintage shit tho so the rep might be overblown as it got clapped once the sabres turned up. + +It also used a reverse engineered British engine which is basically cheating +--- 58076112 +>>58076021 +The T80 is probably their best tank +--- 58076122 +>>58075955 +Actually, add to this a whole bunch of AK derivatives and a bunch of other small arms from the Soviet period. Most are pretty decent when well maintained and properly adjusted by an armorer. But there really are none that were ever truly exceptional or overperforming. All of them just halted at this very specific 60s/70s level of material and design tech level, because of both production limitations and available cost per unit. Sure, they tried to upgrade those designs between the 80s and now, but most of them only saw marginal returns or just never saw enough adoption. +--- 58076135 +The mig-31Ks and its air-air missiles have been causing Ukraine a lot of problems. +--- 58076174 +>>58076109 +It wasn't even reverse engineered, the stupid bongs outright gave it to them in a massively retarded gesture of appeasement. Mig-15 also copied a German airframe elongated to fit the British engine in it. +--- 58076217 +Aren’t both S-300 and S-400 pretty good for locking down airspace if your opponent isn’t someone with first-tier SEAD capabilities or stealth aircraft? I mean, it’s a huge caveat, but it’s not like there are too many countries that have such capabilities in large scale as of now. +--- 58076256 +>>58076050 +Sure wonder why +--- 58076263 +>>58076217 +They're good at downing civilian airliners. Anything military-related you just call Israel for a couple of these bad boys and all your problems disappear. +--- 58076271 +AK and variants, PKM, BMP-3, T-80, MiG-29, MSTA-S +--- 58076281 +>>58075846 (OP) +Kornet seems to be pretty effective in most circumstances +--- 58076297 +>>58075846 (OP) +I really, really like the Ass Vault. +--- 58076329 +>>58075846 (OP) +NATO Need not apply +--- 58076405 +>>58075846 (OP) +S-300 +--- 58076420 +>>58076297 +it's junk though +--- 58076489 +>>58075846 (OP) +S-300 has performed pretty well, at least in Ukrainian hands. + +Mig 31 with their big AA missiles have been mostly successful at denying the airspace to Ukraine. +Mostly because the Ukie airforce consists of outdated soviet shit, but still. +--- 58076498 +>>58076420 +shut up pigger, the gun is awesome, way more awesome than your muddy shithole can come up with, like come on now, some bubba aks made worse by bullpupping them? and you cant even manufacture those enough. +--- 58076532 +>>58076329 +they are of morons +--- 58076541 +>>58075846 (OP) +Most Pucciyan small arms have great reputations. Makarov, Tokarev, AK family, etc. +I would nominate the PKM though, these fuckers are one of the best GPMGs ever designed and are as prolific as the AK, yet somehow hardly known outside of military/enthusiasts for some reason. +--- 58076546 +>>58076174 +To be fair the Brits gave them an outdated engine their MIC didn't want (it wasn't evrn axial flow) and caveated it be used for civil purposes only. Turns out the Soviets were way further behind on jet engine tech than anyone guessed though and it gave them a massive boost when they reverse engineered it +--- 58076548 +>>58076532 +This one literally killed me +--- 58076600 +>>58076546 +Yep, in addition to the fighters of that entire decade the engine also powered the only worthwhile soviet jet bomber for over 20 years - the Tu-16. +--- 58076622 +>>58076541 +we call it pokemon occasionally in the FDF +--- 58076656 +>>58076622 +And now I shall too. +--- 58076690 +>>58076541 +Yeah, they've been good at nailing early the assault rifle/GPMG/DMR infantry combo before most western nations. Their later versions of our grenade lauchers are fine. +--- 58076704 +>>58076420 +Lmao +--- 58076719 +>>58075846 (OP) +Their anti-air systems and howitzers are usually good +--- 58076730 +>>58075846 (OP) +RPG-7 +Seriously, how did it take 34 posts to mention it? +--- 58076767 +>>58075846 (OP) +anti air systems, long range MLRS, cruise messiles, howizers, electronic warfare systems and dare I say tanks(well for their time to be honest) are really good +--- 58076832 +>>58076690 +>they've been good at nailing early the assault rifle/GPMG/DMR infantry combo before most western nations +Is that why they rushed to steal the 5.56x45 cartridge as soon as it became available? +--- 58076863 +>>58076719 +>>58076767 +didn't a drone just hit the kremlin? have those systems ever really been tested? +--- 58076933 +>>58076622 +Apparently they do in Ukraine too, or at least they referred to it as such in this song: +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MnLwuBqCEo [Embed] +--- 58076965 +>>58076863 +I'm only the talking about the systems themselves, the operators being retards is a different problem +--- 58077027 +>>58076832 +That's just the downside of being early adopters of assault rifles and using a shortened cartridge like the krauts before. +--- 58077048 +>>58076863 +>ed to it as such in this song: +yes they for the most part denied Ukrainian air force strike sorties but not every AD is unstoppable for example the operators might fail to detect a threat which seems to be the case among Russians +--- 58077430 +>>58076135 +About that engine life… +--- 58077508 +>>58076217 +S300 and arguably S400 are soviet systems. They are good, yes, and in trained hands they can counter opponents with stealth aircraft and SEAD capabilities. At least, 1990s tier SEAD and stealth, that is. +--- 58077629 +>>58075846 (OP) +Their slave mentalit- uhh, I mean "fighting spirit" has enabled them to continue this operation far longer than I expected them to. +--- 58077646 +>>58077508 +>They are good, yes, and in trained hands they can counter opponents with stealth aircraft and SEAD capabilities +May i see the trained hands? +--- 58077654 +>>58076767 +>long range MLRS +shit +>cruise messiles +with 200m CEP(not even exaggerating) +>cruise messiles +ancient lost tech +>electronic warfare systems +don't work as intended and/or advertised +>tanks +T72 was shit for it's time. That's why there were projects like Object 477 and 490 +--- 58077739 +>>58077646 +Ukraine made russia resort to launching missiles from Caspian sea and further with just 4-5 batteries of S300, some buks and S125 and an ancient but functional radar network. And this "setup" was able to achieve ~80% interception rate. +Note that this system is nowhere near 1980s level, using human equivalent it's like if you'd starve someone for many years, poke their eyes and ears out, lobotomise them, then fix up a lil bit and call that "healthy". Yanukovich was very successful at making sure our AA network is as bad as possible. F to S200 btw, with them not even Caspian sea would be a safe spot +--- 58077772 +>>58077739 +Russia can't SEAD so why would this prove anything? Even 60 year old SA-2s would be able to do the job in this situation. +--- 58077778 +>>58077654 +>cruise messiles twice +second one was howitzers, but I guess the same may be true for cruise missiles too +--- 58077864 +>>58077772 +They can. On day 0 there were stikes on radars, lots of strikes actually, AA systems were constantly moving for first 2 or 3 months. However, they failed to destroy Ukrainian AA system because it was designed to counter 1980s USAF. And now this transformed into russia can't SEAD meme. Now that I think of it, there are multiple russia can't x memes, which is really interesting and sad, because it's not that russia is incapable of doing shit. It's that Ukraine is able to effectively defend itself +--- 58077925 +>>58075846 (OP) + +Lancet suicide drone is the only thing that outperformed my expectations, or, well, that at least works almost as advertised. +--- 58077935 +>>58076281 +Seconding this, hasn't the Kornet been a genuine nuisance to the Ukrainians? I mean it isn't hard to make a functioning ATGM in this day and age so the bar is very low, but still +--- 58077946 +>>58075846 (OP) +is ball down to fuck or nah? +--- 58077974 +>>58077864 +>they failed to destroy Ukrainian AA system because it was designed to counter 1980s USAF +elaborating, the system was designed to withstand a much more powerful opponent, so even being a shell of former self, it was able to destroy a lot of russian planes and helis which made russians shoot missiles from inside their borders. When deployed in proper numbers and as designed, as it was in the 80s (several rings of AA around the biggest cities+AA on the most important objects+AA coverage of the entire country+proper radar network+smaller range AA for tactical level), it would be completely impenetrable for russia and would inflict very high casualties even on modern USAF +--- 58077979 +i have the final say. +--- 58077999 +>>58077974 +>very high casualties even on modern USAF +lmao, nah +--- 58078026 +>>58077864 +>it was designed to fail to counter 1980s USAF +ftfy + +>because it's not that russia is incapable of doing shit. It's that Ukraine is able to effectively defend itself +lmao. it's always been a tard wrangle. deluding yourself into thinking that russia's flailing is a competent action that takes a lot to counter is pure cope +--- 58078103 +>>58075846 (OP) +I'd go with>>58076043 and >>58076135. The lancet does seem to fulfill its intended purpose and the fact that it's getting past Uke air defenses is impressive. at the risk of sounding like Armatard, the Mig-31 and its missiles have proven effective enough to affect how Ukraine's aircraft are deployed; that's far more than I was expecting of both the jet and its weapons. +--- 58078165 +>>58078026 +>to fail to counter +Yeeah, cause russian performance 30 years after ussr collapsed is totally indicative of how ussr would perform. Yup. Totally. No, the fact that ussr spent on military almost three times more than entire russian budget for 2022(982 billion $ in modern money vs 341) is completely and utterly irrelevant. +--- 58078192 +>>58078165 +I'm sure your mighty fallen shithole would totally show US and prove that it hasn't always produced trash equipment manned by drunken subhumans, lmao. + +You're a laughingstock, vatnigger. +--- 58078261 +>>58078192 +I'm Ukrainian, retard. I completely understand that the remnants of soviet propaganda that su=russia are still going strong and affecting how an average westerner perceives a given soviet system, but you need to remember that su didn't consist just of russians. Yes, by the late 80s and 90s you could already say that equipment was manned by drunks, but it was on a much smaller scale. Thousands of times smaller than in modern russia +>hasn't always produced trash equipment +Which is true. S300 isn't shit, for instance. Many such cases btw +--- 58078287 +>>58075846 (OP) +Losharik is cool, despite the accident +--- 58078289 +>>58076256 +>The good Russian weapons are American +Every time +--- 58078322 +>>58078261 +You're a ukrainian vatnik, nothing contradictory about that. Just about the same brand of scum, except there's fewer of those like you compared to russians. + +Still subhumans, still making trash, still puffing airs about it, nothing special at all. +--- 58078352 +>>58076548 +>>58076532 +>>58076329 +>>58075846 (OP) +There's something surreal about how "well drawn" these are +You know what I mean, clearly much higher effort than any MSPaint Polandball comic +Yet so fucking autistic +--- 58078380 +>>58078352 +--- 58078397 +>>58078352 +They genuinely look like the 'art ' of those shitty mobile games that also definitely come out of Russia and probably turn your phone into a crypto miner and a bomb +--- 58078405 +>>58078380 +--- 58078421 +>>58078405 +--- 58078432 +>>58078421 +--- 58078495 +>>58078432 +--- 58078503 +>>58078322 +Not even close, retard. moscow should be glassed along with every other highly populated russian city +Not thinking only western equipment works and being a vatnik are two very different things. +--- 58078516 +>>58078503 +Yeah i still don't care. Take your "soviet stronk" bullshit and shove it up your ass you dumb vatnigger. +--- 58078525 +>>58078516 +Uh-huh. Now show me where I said "soviet stronk" +--- 58078532 +>>58078525 +Scroll up, faggot. The utter idiocy of claiming your S-690 would hamper USAF in the 80s, let alone today needs not be repeated. +--- 58078533 +1-9-4-2 T-I-G-E-R-S +--- 58078536 +>>58077048 +You know we had like less than 50 military jets before the war started right? I think it actually goes to show that the fact our military still flies sorties of any kind is not favourable to your point. +--- 58078557 +>>58078532 +Based on what do you think that a given system would not work? russian performance in 2022? +--- 58078569 +>>58076256 +>the best thing made in Russia was made from things that were made outside of Russia +--- 58078573 +>>58078352 +>>58078397 +It was a state-sponsored response to the early Polandball comics from over 10 years ago that routinely mocked Russia. Whoever made them had a crude idea of the Polandball artstyle. +--- 58078608 +>>58078557 +performance of soviet gear in all and every war it ever participated in in history + +now cope, seethe and dilate vatnigger +--- 58078627 +>>58078608 +Like what, exactly? Vietnam? Korea? +--- 58078636 +>>58078352 +almost like it is autistic state funded media +--- 58078640 +>>58075846 (OP) +--- 58078646 +>>58078627 +yes, those too +--- 58078703 +>>58078690 +FUCK >>58078640 beat me too it. Here's another instead. +--- 58078711 +>>58078608 +Or maybe Ukrainian war, where just a few s300 batteries combined with some other AA systems (soviet as well) were able to completely deny ruaf the sky? +Please stop thinking in absolutes. Yes, some soviet equipment is bad. T-72, for example. But that doesn't mean everything that SU developed is bad. I'll remind again, SU military budget was three times bigger than the entire budget of russian federation, and the corruption was nowhere near modern russian. It did exist, of course, but at the very least military money weren't spent on superyachts +--- 58078720 +>>58078646 +>those too +>posts Egypt +Kek +--- 58078723 +>>58078405 +Funny that I knew what those beetles were. Its also why vatniks are called 'colorados' in reference to the bug's similarity to the ribbon of st george. +--- 58078728 +>>58076050 +Don't they catch on fire really easily? There was something about that in a thread months and months ago. +--- 58078744 +>>58078711 +>Or maybe Ukrainian war, where just a few s300 batteries combined with some other AA systems (soviet as well) were able to completely deny ruaf the sky? +literally a tard fight. russia can't SEAD. + +>inb4 more vatnigger cope +--- 58078768 +>>58078711 +>the bargaining ukrainian sovok begs people to acknowledge his failed state that would totally show everyone what's what +you will never be an empire +--- 58078785 +so who's more pathetic: Josh Luna or these non-sequitur vatnikball memes? + +>>58078646 +>MOCKERY OF THE RUSSIANS AND THEIR INFERIOR AERONAUTIC PERFORMANCE SHALL BE KEPT TO AN APPROPRIATE *hand gesture* MINIMUM +--- 58078796 +>>58077654 +>200m cep +Some serious /k/ooping right here +--- 58078817 +>>58078796 +>/k/ooping +Why'd you announce that you're a shitskin /pol/ tourist raiding /k/? Did you think this was a good idea? +--- 58078823 +>>58076532 +How in the fuck? + +YOU SOLD TURKEY S-400! +--- 58078830 +>>58076329 +>>58076532 +>>58076548 +>>58078352 +>>58078380 +>>58078405 +>>58078421 +>>58078432 +>>58078495 +>>58078547 +These suck so bad it's unreal... +--- 58078843 +>>58078380 +This is the first time I've actually seen what I'm assuming is an accurate translation of this cartoon, and not the open defecation edit. +--- 58078892 +>>58075846 (OP) +Their modern drones worked well from the start it was just so comically small. Their Syrian trained 5th generation (state-of-the-art) war complex (AD/drones/strikes) seem to have been more than sufficient too but again too small and optimized for defense. I'm still horrified about Russian intelligence performance in Ukraine. How did they get turfed so comprehensively? +--- 58078907 +>>58078796 +Do you want the videos of missiles hitting the middle of rivers, random parks, or the satellite shot of that airbase they failed to silence? +--- 58079038 +>>58078843 +Actually in the original he says a wordplay quote in Russian which confuses the bot. +It's somewhat the least jingoistic comic out of them all, but it's probably the most edited. +--- 58079056 +>>58076863 +Ukraine has been using Russian-made air defence platforms to deny its own airspace for the last year against the vastly larger VKS +--- 58079849 +>>58078352 +what "always works"? Their bowels? Are they bragging about how regular they are? +--- 58079884 +>>58075846 (OP) +>but are there any weapons or weapon systems that have proven themselves or even overperformed in some capacity? + +the T-72 was very good when it first came out +composite armor, smoothbore gun with APFSDS, 2-plane stabilizer that didnt suck, a ballistic computer in 1970 + +the M60A1 still used steel armor, a rifled unstabilized gun, but at least it had a better computer +it didnt get a stabilizer until 72, and it didnt get long-rods until 78, and it never did get composite armor +--- 58079891 +>>58078103 +>the fact that it's getting past Uke air defenses is impressive + +Not particularly, no. Drones are notoriously hard to differentiate on radar. +--- 58079916 +>>58079884 +T-72 wasn't the frontline tank, though. It was T-64 and much later T-80 +--- 58080017 +>>58076329 +>Tim Buckley is drawing Russian propaganda +lmao +--- 58080025 +>>58075846 (OP) +TOR is a very good air defence system with a good record but Russia pushes nonfunctioning pantsir instead for some reason as shiny new SHORAD. +>>58076263 +That was a BUK, which is also a proven system if dated. +--- 58080033 +>>58079916 +>T-72 wasn't the frontline tank, +its was by far their most numerous tank from the 70s onwards and would have been used in the heaviest of fighting +--- 58080222 +>>58078573 +I'm positive that the mobile-game Russia has sunglasses because they thought the reason the USAball has sunglasses was to make him 'cool' (iirc the real reason is some widespread stereotype about Americans wearing sunglasses everywhere? I mean. Where I am they do but it's Texas, and coastal Texas at that, sunglasses are practically a health item here). +In any case it is lulzy in the way only the high yield cringe of failed propaganda can be +--- 58080396 +>>58080222 +You're correct. MacArthur, Tom Cruise (Top Gun), etc., solidified the 'big sunglasses' meme. +--- 58080552 +>>58078830 +this is the cringe that is so cringe even ben garrison is too ashamed to put his name on, it's literally cringe all the way down +--- 58080565 +>>58076730 +trash compared to a LAW +--- 58080628 +>>58079884 +t-72 didn't get composite until 1979 with the t72a models +--- 58080754 +>>58080628 +T-72 had composite armor on the hull out of the factory, it was textolite and steel +--- 58080768 +>>58075975 +Have we seen a single one of these BMP ATGM vehicles in Ukraine? +--- 58080784 +>>58076050 +It's so good it went extinct 3 months into the war lmao +--- 58080796 +>>58076271 +>BMP-3 +>good +Lmao +--- 58080811 +>>58077979 +>Russian golem tank +Kek +--- 58080824 +>>58076050 +It was a vehicle made for OMON (Russian SWAT), not necessarily military use. The main function is that it's a 7 tonne armored ram which will drive through walls, small residential buildings, fences and dozens of parked cars to create entry points during raids, as well as generally looking intimidating. + +Even the civilian light unarmored version is insanely unmaneouverable and scary to drive. The leo one is on a whole another level of insanity +--- 58080827 +>>58076256 +Ohhhhh no no no no +--- 58080828 +>>58076548 +onions do have more vitamins though + they raise test. +--- 58080841 +>>58076256 +>in before Ivan claims the Lend Lease wasn't helpful because _____________ +--- 58080842 +>>58078192 +Makes a valid argument. Muttoid replies with +>muh vatnigger muh puccia = bad +Nice one. You just showed everyone how braindead retarded you are +--- 58080848 +>>58078768 +https://files.catbox.moe/xsqgrd.mp4 +--- 58080852 +>>58076541 + +Top answer + +Also +>AK +>PPsh-41 & PPS-43 +>SKS +>RPK +--- 58080858 +>>58078503 +Don't be so edgy just for the sake of it. The people and politics are two different things. Regardless of whatever happens, in 50 years the 2 cultures will be just as close as they have for many centuries before. +--- 58080867 +>>58080565 +>disposable dedicated AT launcher +>reusable and flexible AT launcher + +Apples and Oranges Anon. +--- 58080879 +>>58077864 +for me, it's Russia's inability to use forklifts and pallets. +--- 58080880 +>>58080841 +No one claims that. But you guys claim that without it, defeating germany was impossible whilst casually forgetting that 90% of lendlease arrived after ussr started winning +--- 58080897 +>>58080880 +>whilst casually forgetting that 90% of lendlease arrived after ussr started winning +most of it arrived past 1943, but thats just when it rapidly accelerated +the 10% represents a slice of a massive pie +--- 58080927 +>>58080897 +>most of it arrived past 1943, but thats just when it rapidly accelerated +True and the tide turned in 1942. + +Lendlease is massive in numbers, but on a large scale it was like 10% of ussr's overall production during war. Which is a lot, but also not really +--- 58080954 +>>58080927 +>True and the tide turned in 1942. +even the amount that arrived in 1942 was huge +it just got bigger over time + +>but on a large scale it was like 10% of ussr's overall production during war +weapon systems only +the 10k half-tracks and UCs they got represented nearly 100% of their troop carriers +the 50k jeeps they got represented 100% of their LUV fleet, as they had no 4x4 light truck at all +the 300,000 4x4 and 6x6 trucks were about 30% of their entire truck fleet, and were superior in individual quality as the bulk of the soviet trucks were the 2-wheel drive 1.5ton GAZ-MM +--- 58080992 +>>58080954 +>the 10k half-tracks and UCs they got represented nearly 100% of their troop carriers +>the 50k jeeps they got represented 100% of their LUV fleet, as they had no 4x4 light truck at all +Cmon. You know you just cherrypicked stats that look good. Other parts of lend-lease contained as high as 2% of overall production. +Please don't name some vehicle classification that they did not use and show like USA supplied them with 100% of it. + +As I said, that amount was huge by numbers, but at most it's effect was accelerating Soviet's conquest of German controlled territories and shortening the war by a year or maybe two. +--- 58080994 +>>58080954 +it enabled bagration among other offensives to be a success but it didn't save the ussr from defeat. the claim is usually that lend lease saved the ussr, which is wrong. +--- 58081024 +>>58080992 +>Please don't name some vehicle classification that they did not use and show like USA supplied them with 100% of it. +the US supplied them with 100% of it because they literally had no analogue in the east + +the only truck type that the soviets already had that the US couldnt provide is the 1.5 ton and 3-ton variety +if the US had not provided them half-tracks, then they would have no existing replacement other than literally riding on the tank itself + +without LL trucks and jeeps they would almost certainly be forced to resort to draft animals like the germans did +in practice, even with LL helping them they only managed to reach comparable levels of motorization as the germans +--- 58081051 +>>58081024 +>the US supplied them with 100% of it because they literally had no analogue in the east +They had different doctrine and different supply line logistics. And yeah, it was outdated, but hey they won the war. +--- 58081078 +>>58081051 +>They had different doctrine and different supply line logistics +if by different, you mean worse +the 4x4 1.5ton truck was a godsend to soviet artillery because it could tow their field guns and howitzers +it filled an operational niche that the soviets did not produce an answer to until after the war, by copying the dodge 4x4 +and the 6x6 truck was hilariously better than all existing trucks the soviets had, even their best truck the ZIS was still a two-wheel drive +because we all know how well-paved and car friendly russia is +same with the half-track, the soviets literally had no answer to it other than having grasping on + +it is almost impossible to overstate the level of mobility this grants an army +draft animals can only operate about 50km from a rail head, trucks can do 200km, and with far fewer hands +--- 58081127 +They're genuinely pretty decent at making air defense missiles and their artillery systems are fine. +I like the Russian brand of small arms autism with its counterbalances and other weirdness. +--- 58081167 +>>58081127 +shutup vatnigger. russians never made anything worthy and are clearly all subhumans and so on +--- 58081398 +>>58078495 +Alaskasisters real silent after this one dropped. +--- 58081422 +>>58078830 +It because they're not even making any jokes or witticisms. It's just them bragging about their toys, which is especially cringe now that we know how fucking bad they suck and/or how bad their stockpiles have been bled by corruption. It's saber rattling, but with a scabbard we now know is empty. +--- 58081633 +I remember the days when Turkey entered Syria and shot down the russian plane. Everyone shit themselves and larped about how russia would take out turkey in two weeks. Everyone believed the russian bluffs. Today? Turkey alone could buttfuck Russia beyons recognition. +--- 58081675 +>>58078495 +kek are there any alaskans vying to return to russia? +--- 58081690 +>>58076541 +DSHk is also good +--- 58081764 +>>58075846 (OP) +Most known soviet-era small arms were good. Not just "cheap to manufacture good", but good enough to be further developed in NATO's calibers by independent countries long after CCCP collapsed. Pic related. +--- 58081800 +>>58077946 +Did you know they have T-I-G-E-R-S? +--- 58081972 +>>58078768 +Ffs, how did "not all soviet equipment bad" transform into +>bargaining ukrainian sovok begs people to acknowledge his failed state that would totally show everyone what's what +in your inflamed imagination? +>>58078744 +Yes it can. Or could, at least. Again, on day 0 there was a ton of strikes on radars and aa systems diff --git a/k/58075849.txt b/k/58075849.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..16317aa0cb417889c1f28c02a98c60e38c9649af --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58075849.txt @@ -0,0 +1,261 @@ +----- +--- 58075849 +DEBATE OVER! +--- 58075996 +>>58075849 (OP) +>Only ever use 1x or 3x +--- 58076031 +>>58075849 (OP) +LPVOs make good general-purpose optics but are still inferior to red dots and holographic sights in close quarters and they're inferior to actual scopes at range +--- 58076108 +>>58076031 +Sounds like a skill issue +--- 58076248 +>>58076031 +>LPVOs make good general-purpose optics +Exactly. That’s why your “go to” rifle should have one. They are pretty good in almost all situations. +>but are still inferior to red dots and holographic sights in close quarters +This is true. However basically none of us are room clearing, so it doesn’t matter. For HD, you should know the layout of your home and be posting up so you can live with a little worse performance. At those ranges snap shooting without aiming works. + +Also, if you are clearing rooms or if you really want a red dot (or a shorter barrel) for home defense just get a separate upper. They aren’t that expensive. +--- 58076268 +Why should I get an LPVO when I could get a red dot or holographic with a 3/5x multiplier? +--- 58076293 +>running irons +>at my thousand yard range +I got too cocky boys +--- 58076296 +You misspelled ACOG, but yeah. +--- 58076324 +>>58076293 +>scopelets at the PRS range +--- 58076355 +I'm no guns and never shot so i'm not asking for personal reasons just out of interest. +If you have an LPVO, would you mount an offset red dot or iron sights for quick close up shots, or maybe if you have to quickly react to a close threat while you are zoomed all the way in and a target suddenly appears? +Or do you just use the LPVO at 1x for close ranges and point shoot if you would have to react to something quickly and don't have enough time to adjust, even with a throw lever? +--- 58076356 +>>58075849 (OP) +It’s an Amazon brand only $129 wat? +--- 58076398 +>>58076355 +Competition shooters use an offset red dot and an lpvo. It makes no sense to change the scope magnification during a course. + +In combat there are different roles so riflemen will carry a max 3-4x magnification and point fire indoors and have a designated marksman with higher power magnification. + +If it were me LPVO + offset dot is superior for individual defense. +--- 58076446 +>>58076248 +honestly I wouldnt have just one rifle for everything, what I use for home defense/bedside gun is built for that and has a red dot, because red dots are better for it an im not shooting some dude 100+ yards away in my house, maybe if you have a lot of property (like farm/ranch owner kind of property). no general purpose rifle I will say that LVPO is the better option but I still prefer more rugged options. +--- 58076448 +>>58076248 +>For HD, you should know the layout of your home and be posting up +Which means going and gathering the people you want to protect, for those who have them. +--- 58076474 +>>58076446 +meant +>now for general purpose rifle +--- 58076520 +>>58076448 +No it just means I know where to wall bang when the rapists, looters, niggers, and gubbmint come through +--- 58076572 +Has there ever been a self defense shooting with a rifle at a range beyond 100 yards? Especially one that resulted in a kill? I feel like unless you are in a rural area with a based sheriff, or you just don't tell anyone, you would be so fucked shooting someone at any kind of distance where an LPVO or scope would be useful. DAs will call people cold-blooded murderers for shooting someone 20 ft away that has a gun +--- 58076576 +>>58075849 (OP) +Do you even own one? I do and I think your statement is bullshit. They're good for certain rifles, builds, and specific uses, and bad for others. +--- 58076614 +>>58076398 +Why not run a fixed power with an offset dot if your just going to leave it on one power? It is simpler, lighter, more durable, and cheaper to have better glass (ex swfa 6x). Lpvo makes no sense in any situation outside maybe a law enforcement officers patrol rifle where he leaves it on 1x 99 but has the option to dial up if he has to deal with a mass shooter on a roof top or take a position outside a building. Even still, an elcan or acog/rmr is still going to beat that. +--- 58076625 +>>58076572 +>Has there ever been a self defense shooting with a rifle at a range beyond 100 yards? +I think there was like, one case, in modern history. Or maybe 2-3, the one I'm thinking of was some mexican guy who knew cartel were coming for him and decided to go down fighting, holed up with a bunch of rifles and started firing right off. IIRC he died, though he did take down an impressive number with him. + +Even taking into account police snipers though 100+yd shots are ultra rare in America, and like 99+% are <20yd, and ~96% <10yd. So no pure larp. + +Of course, hunting can absolutely take place at 200-300yd in some areas. And then there's nothing inherently wrong with wanting a gun for use from 0-650yd just in terms of fun and sporting not just hd and hunting. LPVO might be an ok choice. For people with shit eyes an etched reticle and combined zoom might be preferable to a holo or rds with a flipmag too. + +But for whatever reason it gets constantly, massively overpushed by fags like OP. LPVOs have major downsides. +--- 58076670 +>>58076572 +>Tresspasses on cracker's land +>A cracker tells him to leave +>Chink proceeds to hollers to the other crackers to harrasses him off the property +>Cracker fires a shot for who knows why +>Chink a former SOF in the us military returns fire +Rest is history, down to the ridicously blatant unfair trial and disappearance of evidence showcasing a blatant firefight +--- 58076679 +>>58075849 (OP) +>The only optic you'll ever need is an LPVO. +>DEBATE OVER! +Posted scope pic.... +Reticle in 2nd Focal Plane Garbage. +--- 58076740 +>>58076614 +6x all the time is too much for most situations but it would work for a mountain terrain. Pretty much a DMR at that point. An LPVO can allow you to work in the mountains or in urban environments seamlessly +--- 58076751 +>>58076296 +Cringe +--- 58076821 +>>58076296 +the gunlets optic of choice +--- 58076866 +>>58076751 +Not cringe. +>light weight, clear glass, better field of view than LPVOs, reticle matches up with your bullet +--- 58076869 +>>58076821 +Let’s see yours +--- 58076887 +>>58076296 +ACOG is still the king +--- 58076907 +>>58076887 +Weird way to spell elcan but ok +(I like acogs too) +--- 58077039 +>>58076670 +anon whether or not him getting shot at first happened like he claimed, doesn't change the fact that he executed people that were incapacitated +--- 58077052 +>>58075849 (OP) +You can't passive aim with it using NVGs, dead on arrival. +--- 58077100 +>>58075849 (OP) +LPVOs are inherently flawed. +MPVOs are inherently based. +Why choose a 1-10x when you can have a 2-14x? +The 1x on a LPVO is going to be objectively worse than a piggybacked or offset red dot, and the 10x is going to be objectively worse than an MPVO equivalent. +--- 58077109 +>>58076670 +what case is this +--- 58077114 +>>58077052 +Just fight in the daytime nigga LMAO +Theys a whole sun up there nigga and its free LMAOOOOOOO +Niggas really be out here tryna roll up on somebody in the dark LOL +Racoon ass mfs fr +--- 58077131 +>>58077100 +The 1x is amazing on even cheap lpvos now with the relatively new sig and burris options. You've clearly never shot one, or you're garbage. +--- 58077133 +>>58077039 +Dead checking is part of his training. He did the right thing. +--- 58077143 +>>58077109 +Tree rat murders +--- 58077147 +>>58077052 +offset dot retard +--- 58077149 +>>58076031 +Why would I room clear? RC cars and mini drones with ricin are way easier my guy. Rules of engagement are for retarded faggots. +--- 58077180 +>>58077052 +Nodlets illy be wild out here +--- 58077269 +If you load 338, 300, 50 BMG, you can start shooting a mile out and over. Even 308 can shoot 1,000 yards, urban sniping like in this photo is often at ranged like 100 yards. However, even with a scope or variable optic, you can mount a red dot for close range aiming. That way you can protect yourself at close range. +--- 58077284 +>>58076324 +Scopes only improve upon existing skill, but if you can't shoot accurately with just irons, you should learn to do that first. +--- 58077302 +>>58077147 +>LPVOs are so good +>oh let me add a red dot on it too +Redundant 1x capability while having to deal with all the compromises of an LPVO. Get an ACOG or a 2.5-10 then. +--- 58077305 +>>58076670 +People can be very reckless and irresponsible with firearms. All of this could have been resolved without firearms in a friendly manner. +--- 58077309 +>>58075849 (OP) +Upvoted +--- 58077321 +>>58077269 +>is often at ranges* like 100 yards. +Law enforcement using Remington 700s often +--- 58077331 +>>58077309 +return to preddit +--- 58077584 +>>58076356 +>It’s an Amazon brand only $129 wat? +bullshit OP's scope is 129 +--- 58077600 +>>58076355 +>If you have an LPVO, would you mount an offset red dot or iron sights for quick close up shots, or maybe if you have to quickly react to a close threat while you are zoomed all the way in and a target suddenly appears? +It mostly depends on preference. I don’t have one because I keep it on 1x until I go outside. It’s good enough for me. The weight and cost isnt worth it to me. If I was a soldier or expected to clear house or something I’d probably piggyback or offset a red dot. A 1x LPVO is still better than irons and people used those forever. It’s better than a 4x ACOG at close range too. + +For your answer about getting surprised when it’s on high magnification, that’s a valid question. I don’t see situations where you’d be out in the open and need it at 6-8x and then also have someone get so close you can’t aim zoomed in. At 15-20 yards that magnification isn’t really a problem (even if slower). At 5 yards where it would be really blurry you can just point shoot. I don’t see a 10-15 yard gunfight happening when you already had it cranked up to max magnification. Again just my opinion. Personal choices vary a lot. +--- 58077628 +>>58076248 +>however basically none of us are room clearing, +home defense is the single most probable case of ever using a rifle against another human as a civilian. 200+ yard shots against an aggressor as a civilian are pure LARP fantasy. +Deal with it. +--- 58077792 +>>58077628 +This is true but my weapon of choice for home defense is a shotgun. If I am using my rifle it is probably defending against an aggression coming from outside the house. But probably no 200 yard shots yes. +--- 58077886 +>>58077331 +Redditors love LPVOs +--- 58077903 +>>58076448 +Not necessarily. All my bedrooms are on the top floor. I can post up at the top of the stairs. Same with a ton of houses +--- 58079180 +>>58076355 +There's a guy on youtube who hunts with a buddy who has an LVPO (or maybe a 3-9x) and an offset red dot for hunting coyotes. Scoped shots are long enough that you can fiddle with it zoom while the red dot is "it's less than 30 feet away holy shit". Works pretty well. +--- 58079307 +>>58076355 +Here, I found it. Now I don't even own a modern red dot so take my opinion with a grain of salt but really, get an LPVO or a 3-9x scope and see how that works for you first, then think about offsets if you REALLY want one. https://youtu.be/evnaHAILHjk?t=166 [Embed] +--- 58079315 +>>58077886 +>if you like LPVOs you are a RACIST! + +This is what you chud suckers sound like to any sane individual. Sad. +--- 58079325 +>>58077131 +>ohh the 1x is soo amazing and literally good +Is it better than a red dot? No? Fuck off. +--- 58079338 +>>58079325 +What if I told you some LPVOs have a built-in red dot? +--- 58079341 +>>58079315 +>unironically calls people "chud" +Reddit is calling +--- 58079352 +>>58079338 +I would tell you that they don't function like red dots. +--- 58079377 +>>58079341 +--- 58079390 +>>58079377 +(You) +--- 58079454 +red dot+magnifier is more useful +--- 58079468 +>>58075849 (OP) +MORE DOTS +MORE DOTS +OK +SOTP DOTS +--- 58080243 +>>58076907 +ELCANs are really nice, love mine +--- 58080278 +>not choosing the best optic +--- 58080545 +>>58077039 +>anon whether or not him getting shot at first happened like he claimed, doesn't change the fact that he executed people that were incapacitated +Don't start none, won't be none. Hmong man did the right thing +--- 58080960 +>>58076572 +>Has there ever been a self defense shooting with a rifle at a range beyond 100 yards? Especially one that resulted in a kill? +The longest recorded legal shot that hit another person in the civilian world that I'm aware of was a police sniper shot taken at 187 yards (and it should be noted that the average shot for them is only 51 yards). More recently there was a case of a cop taking a 183 yard shot with a rifle from his patrol car in Tacoma Washington, so shots like these aren't exclusively the domain of police snipers, but cases are still exceedingly rare. +https://www.policemag.com/339408/swat-snipers + +The Longest legal recorded shots that didn't hit were the people laying down suppressing fire at Charles Whitman in 1966 so the cops could get to the tower he was shooting from, but realistically all they had to do was hit the broad side of a tower which is completely possible with a handgun. + +After that, the longest mutual shooting I'm aware of where both parties were actively shooting at each other was the North Hollywood shootout that had shots fired out to 117 yards, and I am aware of another case that involve exchanging shots at 71 yards (the Fairchild AFB shooting), but both of those cases involved police officers doing things to draw significant attention to themselves from people who were already shooting (standing next to police cruisers with flashing lights in the North Hollywood shootout when the robbers had already fired shots inside the bank, and directly yelling at someone doing a mass shooting in the Fairchild AFB shooting). + +So really, unless you just happen to be there when someone starts shooting people a ways away from where you are, you're going to be extremely hard pressed to ever find a situation where you can legally shoot someone even outside of normal handgun ranges. +--- 58081082 +>>58076296 +>no video game gets this right diff --git a/k/58075939.txt b/k/58075939.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e4212a52a85601fb3167a2b1e909b87d4515460c --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58075939.txt @@ -0,0 +1,447 @@ +----- +--- 58075939 +Let me see those revolvers + +Git gud guide: https://bayfiles.com/96M9Ec9eue/ +Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik + +>>58056808 → +--- 58075958 +>>58075939 (OP) +--- 58076069 +Is holding eye contact for more than three seconds with a woman considered creepy? +--- 58076116 +Why are there no 9mm 20rd m&p mags for me to consoom +--- 58076142 +>>58076069 +Yes. Making it at all is creepy as shit if you aren't chad +--- 58076221 +>>58075729 → +No, its from 64. +It definitely did come coated in like two millimeters of dried packing grease though +--- 58076860 +First for Staccato +--- 58076874 +>>58075939 (OP) +Need kinky slut gf +--- 58076905 +I just like it +--- 58076913 +HK shills need to be fucking gassed +--- 58076920 +>>58076069 +I make hard unblinking eye contact with anyone I'm talking to. I get mixed results but I think it's part of the reason I attract so many psychos. +--- 58076931 +>>58076913 +still upset about the bad triggers despite anons like me warning you? +--- 58076932 +>>58076069 +If you're average or ugly yes +--- 58076985 +Another great day of making noguns mad. +--- 58076996 +POP QUIZZERINO + +What is the functions of this disc on a Beretta 92? +--- 58077005 +Moving forward, I'm going to amass a more varied collection. I take a lot of first-time shooters to the range and it's always fun to see them recognize the guns they handle. Might get a revolver next +--- 58077036 +>>58076116 +Wasatch Arms makes a +5 extender for M&P that'll turn it into a 22+1. Added it to my OEM 17rd mag with the original mag spring for my full size 1.0. Only put about 150 rounds through it so far but no issues. +--- 58077044 +>>58076996 + +Full-auto baby killer +--- 58077085 +>>58076996 +Catches the slide if it breaks in two because the Olins Corporation released large amounts of near proof load ammunition into the US ammunition supply +--- 58077192 +>>58076931 +Yes I had no idea it would be that bad + +The cheap polymer plastic covered trigger makes me want to vomit +--- 58077240 +Can grab a optics ready Staccato C2 w DLC barrel for 200 under MSRP. Should I go for it? +--- 58077243 +>>58077240 + +Go for it +--- 58077253 +>>58076905 + +>extended mays + +What ghetto are you from Anon +--- 58077270 +>>58077253 +I just got this one. I thought it was funny. I got it because it completes the glock ownership meme. I am white and I live innawoods. +--- 58077345 +>>58075939 (OP) +>Zipper goes all the way around +Brehs... +>>58077192 +We WARNED you about HK bro +We TOLD you dog +--- 58077406 +My newest gun. Love this little fucker. +--- 58077474 +>>58076996 +thats just the hammer pin + +also burt, is that new lel kek p15 also optics ready? I cant tell from the photos. +--- 58077540 +>>58075982 +How the fuck are you supposed to draw like that? +--- 58077544 +>>58075939 (OP) +posting dummy thicc revolver. I love it, shot it a few times, the my zero on the sights has the windage way to the right..like sticking out the sight frames. That parts annoying unfortunately. No good aftermarket for rear sights either. +--- 58077558 +If you don't carry a backup gun you're already dead. +--- 58077571 +>>58076069 +honestly, they usually fall in love with you for it +--- 58077632 +>>58077571 +>>58076069 +This but somewhat unironically +If you make eye contact with someone, look to see the reaction of their pupils. +if you notice they constrict then slowly look away and continue with what you are doing, they felt threatened and you need to de-escalate +If there is no change or they dilate then you're off to a good start, try smiling. +--- 58077648 +>>58077540 + +>not being a contortionist fudd + +NGMI +--- 58077713 +What weight of recoil spring should you NEVER use in a Beretta 92X Performance with reloads? + +>>58077085 +>>58077474 +CORRECT +--- 58077857 +>>58077474 +It is not optic ready out of the box, however the cover on the rear of the slide comes off and Lelkek said they are going to sell optics mount covers later. +--- 58077877 +>>58077857 +damn so i guess im not in a hurry to get one, unless they're a limited series or something. +--- 58077985 +>>58075939 (OP) +>>58075958 +>>58075982 +This is an aesthetic I can get behind. +--- 58078044 +>>58077540 +Reach behind your back Anon, as if you were scratching an itch just above your butt crack. Where's your hand? What orientation is it in? +--- 58078273 +I am in the market for a holster for an M9A4. I like dropleg holsters, do they even make one for the a4? +--- 58078281 +>>58075939 (OP) +https://youtu.be/TFT-g-9CPmg [Embed] + +.25 speed time stamps 1:23-1:24 finger inside trigger guard P320 haters tongue my anus +--- 58078290 +>>58076905 +luv me polymer +luv me 9mm +luv me G17 + +simple as +--- 58078291 +>50% of the people I know say the LCP is a dumpster fire of a gun +>50% say it's the best pocket gun ever made and there is no point in anything else +are they both right? +--- 58078310 +>>58078291 +They are both correct statements. +As a normal gun its a fucking disaster +As a pocket carry .380 its literally the best option in the market, only because everything else is worse. +--- 58078372 +>>58077713 +9lb but I question how this actually matters for the barrel. I don't think it matters. In fact a 9lb spring should cause less damage to the barrel. Spring force is a function of the constant force that the spring exerts multiplied by the distance. How does lowering the constant cause more damage? If you had a 0lb spring the slide would just slam all the way back. Assuming it doesn't bounce back into battery then the barrel isn't getting battered at all. + +In other words we can conclude it was the reloads that did this and all springs factory strength or weaker are fine to use. Now post one asking us about where to lube a 92 +--- 58078461 +>>58077877 +The aluminum ones aren't limited to my knowledge, but I don't see how they're going to make or sell a lot of them when the plastic ones are like $250 less. + +>>58078281 +>generally Sig makes *THE* most reliable firearms on the planet +>these things are bulletproof and extremely reliable +>inb4 dismissing the cop shooting himself on account of the fanboy testifying about the situation +Is that his MIDDLE finger on the trigger? What is this babby murderer doing? + +>>58078372 +CORRECTLOL +--- 58078613 +First wheel gun, love it. Now I want to get a 44magnum for in the woods. +--- 58078658 +>>58078461 +I wish that dumb bitch didn’t talk over the first fucking part, then you might be able to hear him drawing from the holster then the shot. Lady stops talking and he’s almost half way out the car then it cuts to the gunshot. + +I’m assuming someone will post the full video somewhat soon maybe that will show it. +--- 58078716 +>>58078461 +siggers tongue my trigger safety +--- 58078729 +>>58078310 +having looked at .25 and .32 options is there even a point? they're mostly not any smaller than the lcp and more expensive. +--- 58078776 +>>58076931 +He's right to be. A da/sa worse than most strikers. There's nothing within $200 price range of a new HK with a worse da/sa +--- 58078786 +>>58075729 → +Why doesn't/can't the USP have the same trigger internals as the Mk23? +--- 58078816 +>>58078786 +Because SOCOM demanded the Mark 23 have discrete decocker and safety and something about being unable to have it on safe while decocked. USP is just a simplified, cheaper mechanism which lets you have it however you want. +--- 58078838 +>>58077544 +Nice always Iiked those. I inherited grandma’s 1967 Diamondback. Still have the original grips +--- 58078971 +>>58078776 +I agree, I think it's a cringe trigger but he was warned at the very least. +--- 58079033 +>>58076069 +I often do this in public transportation. Some of them will stare back to shame me and we enter unofficial no-blink contest. +--- 58079061 +>>58075939 (OP) +>>58078281 +>>58078461 +zig zour +--- 58079161 +>>58075939 (OP) +Is Smith n Wesson a good midrange 1911 maker? +--- 58079172 +>>58077406 +Hows it shoot +--- 58079193 +Survey time. Do you carry an extra mag/reload? +--- 58079209 +>>58079193 +sometimes. if it's just a quick run to a store, then no. if a full day, then yes. +--- 58079216 +>>58079161 +They're okay if you can't afford a real midrange 1911 like a Dan Wesson. +--- 58079218 +>>58079193 +Don’t trigger the autism. +--- 58079226 +>>58078816 +I'd rather have a good trigger and interesting controls than a mid trigger and sensible ones. P8WHY +--- 58079231 +>>58079161 +Yes. I’ve heard good things. They have a unique look and extractor mechanism +--- 58079238 +>>58079193 +Yes, but it's there so I can top up after my DGU in case I have another one on the way home, not because I think 18 rounds might not be enough for one self-defense shooting. +--- 58079267 +>>58079193 +Yes. I like the ballast. +--- 58079326 +First ever firearm purchase. Need to find some time this weekend to break her in. Really looking forward to getting my CCW permit soon. +--- 58079350 +>>58079216 +>>58079231 +I do enjoy the fishscale-looking serrations on one of them. A Dan Wesson sounds so nice but it's a good $800 more and I can' really afford that unless I guess if I do some layaway or credova bullshit. +--- 58079362 +>>58079172 + +Really good. Not quite as smooth as my Glock 19 but definitely better than my P365. +--- 58079374 +>>58079326 +Very nice, I have Glocks and Sigs but want one those Euro cousins. +--- 58079462 +>>58079326 +It's very chunky, I'd carry something thinner and lighter. +--- 58079619 +>>58079462 +I've always wanted to get an Arex. For extremely niche guns, how do you all go about replacing stuff like springs? Hunt around online for replacement parts or can you cannibalize springs from other guns? +--- 58079641 +>>58079619 +>buy spring +>its too long +>jam it in anyway +>it causes malfunctions +>clip it with a wire cutter +>no more malfunctions +guns are blocks of metal, plastic, and wood, not alien artifacts +--- 58079684 +>>58079619 +See if Wolff makes the springs anyway. +--- 58079685 +For you hipower owners out there, do you suffer from that hammer bite thing quite a bit? +--- 58079712 +>>58079685 +Actually while i'm asking, does removing the mag disconnect actually improve the trigger? +--- 58079805 +>>58079619 +Wolff will make any spring you want if you provide specs and are willing to pay for it. +--- 58079837 +>>58079684 +>>58079805 +That's pretty cool actually, thanks for telling me. I gotta see their stock. +--- 58079858 +>>58079685 +Never once for me. + +>>58079712 +It improves it a little maybe but the Hi Power's trigger uggo is due to the teeter totter that goes through the slide +--- 58079890 +>>58079858 +Might try out that Girsan one then...is there anything that can be done to fix said trigger? +--- 58079913 +>>58079890 +Get a better sear. My Hipower breaks clean and extremely crisp with a smooth take up. After looking it over, ultimately what decides whether or not the trigger is decent is in that sear. At the same time, unless you've shot it yourself, you shouldn't really take everyone's testimony as gospel. I've shot a lot of guns and so far that Hipower has the best trigger out of every gun I've held. +--- 58079924 +>>58079226 +The Mk23 has a worse trigger than a USP Match’s though, it’s close but definitely heavier and grittier. +--- 58080027 +>>58079890 +>>58079913 +Yeah this MAY work. It worked for me as well, I put in a C&S sear (requires filing to fit the safety) and hammer and my trigger was pretty crisp once it was on the wall but still had overtravel and the clunk from the teeter totter was still there. Even with the crisp break I wouldn't say it was better than just good, personally I'd prefer something with creep that instead had better other aspects of the trigger like reset, overtravel and weight. I wouldn't go chasing a super nice Hi Power trigger, I'd treat it like a Glock and just learn to deal with it however it is. +--- 58080060 +>>58077005 +I want to do the same, but I find myself always going back to 1911s, Glocks, and Smith and Wesson revolvers. I'm been trying to convince myself to get a Beretta instead of a 1911, but it's not working so well. +--- 58080099 +>>58077985 +>>58076874 +--- 58080173 +>>58078786 +I like my USP +--- 58080238 +>>58076069 +according to my female coworkers this is how hispanic men try to flirt and yes they find it very creepy +--- 58080259 +>>58080173 +based USP lover +--- 58080262 +>>58080185 +can your gun run crysis? +--- 58080265 +>>58080027 +Nickel Hipowers are panty droppers. +--- 58080284 +>>58080259 +I love it so much bro, I need a P30L to go with it. +--- 58080285 +>>58080259 +Anon, I think your mouse has autism. +--- 58080300 +>>58080285 +Pretty sure that’s a CAD mouse +--- 58080331 +>>58080284 +Just get another USP. That's what I did. + +>>58080285 +Indeed it does. + +>>58080300 +It's just an ergonomic mouse. Helps my bitch wrists when I'm slinging graphic designs all day long. Gotta keep the wrists in good shape so I can take the Deagle out, you know? +--- 58080350 +>>58080331 +Two is one and one is none. +--- 58080369 +Any cans? +--- 58080372 +>>58080262 +Damn that's an old meme and still nothing can run Crysis + +>>58080331 +>having two of thing +But WHY +--- 58080375 +>>58076860 +evening +--- 58080439 +>>58080372 +You make a good point, I should have THREE of one gun! +--- 58080479 +>>58080369 +i want a can but i dont know if ill be employed in a few months since my company is being absorbed into a bigger one, and if i lose my job i will have to move and i dont want to deal with that fucking bullshit while i wait for a stamp +--- 58080489 +>>58080369 +yar +--- 58080496 +>>58080375 +I did the math. +If i try to sell off my USP, Px4, Beretta 92, Glock 19, and a Glock 40, then maybe an old walther p1 to a boomer, +in the best case scenarios with optimal pricing, i might be able to afford 1 (one) Staccato P + +Is it worth it? I'd rather have several cool and very functional guns instead of one "good" one desu. +--- 58080528 +>Bought a current production Jericho +>Went with mid size for a smaller frame +>Found out that they have the same frame as the full size +Oh well, I'll just rationalize that it's more pointable or something. +--- 58080567 +>>58080528 +>Jericho +>he doesnt know + +>>58068066 → +>>58068765 → +>>58068872 → +>>58074654 → +>>58075428 → +--- 58080641 +Is there a reason I should get a Beretta 92FS over a 92X or is the 92X just a straight upgrade? +--- 58080643 +>>58080567 +Well generally speaking that's already how I aim and I was probably going to get aftermarket sights anyways but still that sounds dumb. Guess I'll see for myself soon, my Jericho will arrive at the store soon and once I have some time off I'll be sending about 1k rounds downrange. +--- 58080656 +Fug, I'm having non-buyer's remorse now. +--- 58080661 +>>58080641 +The 92X is a straight upgrade unless you specifically want the gun from the movie or you have weirdly specifically medium-largeish hands that are too big for the straight backstrap but not so big that you'd benefit from dummy thicc 92XP-style wraparounds *and* you're autistic about the plastic wraparound grip that comes with the gun and duplicates the legacy humped backstrap. +--- 58080672 +>>58079619 +The manufacturer will sell spare parts. Otherwise, a custom shop will usually show up around one particular company or clockwork design, so if it shares anything with 226/229, then custom shops for those might have something for them. + +>>58080496 +NEVER sell weapons to purchase something, especially not another weapon. +--- 58080674 +>>58080661 +Is there a way to make it look like this? +--- 58080678 +>>58080496 +No, selling a bunch of guns you like in order to buy one gun that you think you'll like, probably, is retarded. 2011s are nice, but they aren't "sell a half dozen guns to pick one up right now" nice. +--- 58080710 +>>58078291 + +No one ever brings up the Glock 42 in these conversations. Great pocket carry .380. I'm a thin man who wears business casual majority of the time when I'm out. Love how it shoots and how easy it conceals in the pocket or iwb +--- 58080714 +>>58080567 +i can't believe israel would do this +--- 58080729 +>>58080674 +Someone made a 3D printed thing but not really. + +there is a guy who would be capable of doing that +https://www.collectordesignwerks.com/showcase +if you have the money +--- 58080761 +>>58080710 +I got a G42 late last year to replace my dad's old PPK/s as my carry gun and I'm pretty happy with it. It's my first plastic fantastic and it's sold me on the concept. +--- 58080816 +>>58080567 +Odd. I usually shoot really well with my Jericho. +--- 58080952 +>>58079193 +Not always, but if I can I do. +--- 58080988 +>>58076996 +Catches slide if locking block cracks +--- 58081044 +>>58080173 +>>58080259 +I can't wait for mine. +--- 58081102 +Does anyone know of a trigger guard cover / other solution for carrying a full size pistol with an Olight PL-Pro inside a waistbag / sling bag? I like to carry like this when I hike etc. and would like something to cover the trigger. Any ideas? +--- 58081538 +>>58081102 +His webzone looks completely effed out the a at the moment but Dale Frig Zacchaeus does what you are looking for. I'm sure there are plenty of others that do trigger guard holsters too. +https://dalefrickeholsters.com/product/zacchaeus-concealment-holster/ +--- 58081914 +M-lok but on a pistol. diff --git a/k/58075973.txt b/k/58075973.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..88516c499504d31b13050a560222f5bea68877c9 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58075973.txt @@ -0,0 +1,485 @@ +----- +--- 58075973 +strange things are happening in the Russian army command, and apparently Shoigu is fucked +--- 58075995 +>>58075973 (OP) +Kek, Russia is truly turning in a full on circus. +--- 58076103 +Oh god, /rcwg/ really is going to become a reality, isn't it? +--- 58076133 +demon +--- 58076151 +>>58076103 +There is no fucking way Girkin will live long enough to see that +--- 58076325 +>>58076103 +If Girkin took over after a bloody civil war I'd actually be scared of Russia again. +--- 58076368 +Strange things afoot. Hadn't thought Pigozhin would have the brass balls to hire a general to join his outfit, not with Vaginer on the cusp of complete destruction in Bakhmut. +--- 58076415 +>>58076103 +Omsk starting the great trial when? +--- 58076425 +>>58076151 +If they kill the last honest Russian, they kill Russia with him. +--- 58076456 +>>58076103 +the text is surprisingly well written +--- 58076464 +>>58076425 +>last honest Russian +Girkin was on multiple occasions accused of selling off heavy machinery from Donbass in 2014-2015(it was moved to Russia and he was defense minister of Donbabwe at that time, so he had hand in it for sure). And stealing donations for soldiers in 2022-2023, that faggot is not honest at all +--- 58076476 +>>58076425 +Girkin isn't exactly completely honest and has lied many times before. The last honest Russian should probably be Zinin. +--- 58076479 +>>58076103 +Strelkov is forgotten by everyone, there was his chance when Prigozhin offered Strelkov a place in Wagner, but he did it in a rude way (Prigozhin wanted to piss on his face) and Strelkov was forced to refuse +--- 58076484 +>>58075973 (OP) +>it's fucking happening +--- 58076495 +>>58076103 +What's this HoI4 mod called? +--- 58076507 +>>58076479 +>there was his chance when Prigozhin offered Strelkov a place in Wagner +how the fuck it was his chance? Prigozhin offered him to be stormtrooper that would be thrown at Ukrainian trench the moment he joined Wagner +--- 58076524 +>>58075973 (OP) +which weapon is being discussed here? +--- 58076528 +>>58076524 +Soldiers are military equipment. +--- 58076529 +>>58076484 +>Vaginer taking over the government +the tens of thousands of glowies and all of Rosgvardiya would soon put paid to his delusions. +--- 58076531 +>>58076425 +Russia is dead. +--- 58076589 +>>58075973 (OP) +>>58076103 +Can't wait to see what happens to russian nukes after this +Their previous collapse in the 90s was handled pretty smoothly +--- 58076595 +>>58076589 +Every single relevant power in the world will do all they can to secure those nukes. Absolutely nobody who is currently in power benefits from random nukes spreading across the world. Hopefully the Russians themselves are smart enough to accept blue helmets around their nuclear silos. +--- 58076616 +>>58076595 +>Hopefully the Russians themselves are smart enough to accept blue helmets around their nuclear silos. +>Russians +>smart enough +Heh. +--- 58076617 +>>58076595 +Russians will sell their mothers for a sensible price, given the chance. If there is nobody to punish some random general for selling the nukes under his command to US he will do that in a heartbeat. +--- 58076620 +>>58075973 (OP) +Looks like it's Prigozhin that's fucked by getting saddled with this retard. +--- 58076624 +>>58076617 +I guess that's a solution too. China and US buying the whole functioning nuclear arsenal so it doesn't end up in Jihadistan, or whatever. +--- 58076635 +>>58076524 +The member we use to rape other men +--- 58076639 +>>58076616 +A man can dream, can he not? +--- 58076652 +>>58076529 +Rosgvardia are numerous but spineless. The only ones that would stand up against the brigand king are the FSB and the regular army who must be tired of the bald bonobo getting preferential treatment and getting credit for their work. +--- 58076667 +>>58076529 +One functional brigade will destroy all of rossgvardian sissies. +--- 58076694 +>>58076103 +I want to play this game so damn bad. +Yes I know it's not a game but somebody needs to make it. +--- 58076698 +>>58076589 +Honestly, all Russian nuclear sites should be destroyed if/when the current state collapses. So long as there is no unified command, they cannot be launched. +--- 58076720 +>>58076698 +That isn't enough to stop a potentially catastrophic nuclear proliferation problem. +R*ssia already lost a fuckton of spicy nuclear material (RTGs), they better not lose actual nukes. +--- 58076726 +>>58076425 +>honest Russian +--- 58076811 +>>58076524 +Sentient weapons made of flesh and bone. +--- 58076822 +>>58076589 +NATO NEST teams are more than capable of securing whatever 3 digit number of Russian Nikes that have survived 30+ years of deferred maintenance. Tricky problem is going to be other CBRN weapons + +just imagine parachuting in, and fultoning out loose warheads. +--- 58076899 +>>58076425 +>FSB spook +>honest +As honest as a Russian can be, I suppose. +--- 58076914 +>>58076425 +>strelkov +>honest +lel +--- 58076929 +>>58076822 +My buddy, my pal, that's gonna be a 4-digit number. That's a lot of weapons-grade fissionable material. That shit doesn't decay in 30 years. Doesn't fucking matter if they don't have launchers. Doesn't fucking matter if they're unmaintained. The moment you have a critical mass worth of angry rocks unaccounted for, you have A Big Fucking Problem. +--- 58076952 +>>58076103 +Why would you choose anyone other than Far Eastern People's Republic, unless there is a timed invasion from some meme faction from beyond the map? +--- 58076954 +>>58076103 +Russia might actually end up nuking itself. +--- 58076966 +circlejerk thread lol imagine supporting nwo +--- 58076995 +>>58076966 +Anon, its either russia/china or america. The alternative is not any better and the world is better off than the "multipolar" world that was the 18-20th century. +--- 58077002 +>>58076133 +i sentece you to an eternal alcoholic stare +--- 58077012 +>>58076476 +denis nikitin still exists +--- 58077016 +>>58076995 +Russia China is it then, I do not want to worship niggers and fuck trannies +--- 58077028 +Guys, what happens if Russia truly is fucked and somehow overextended? Is Putin just gonna snap and hit the big red button if he can’t have Ukraine? +--- 58077033 +>>58077016 +rshtb +--- 58077045 +>>58077028 +Putin doesn't have a big red button to press. +--- 58077061 +>>58077045 +Don’t they still have nukes? Even a Cold War era nuke would really kick the hornets nest of NATO +--- 58077067 +>>58077061 +Real life is not a fucking cartoon m8 +--- 58077069 +>>58077028 +I hope so. It would certainly make things interesting. +--- 58077074 +>>58077016 +Anon, russia/china literally imports muslims and africans of their own. They also ally themselves with african countries and offer citizenships to them. You obsessing over faggots/niggers showcased your inability to realize the other side is worse. Terrible economics, terrible trade, terrible diplomacy and more and more foreign wars over territory. Along with placing more emphasis on bringing in more immigrants from africa/asia. You think laws about faggots are bad? How about a culture of faggots that rapes or solicits you into sex traffic despite the laws saying otherwise? The west, you have a choice. In china/russia, you do not have a choice. +--- 58077093 +>>58077074 +>The west, you have a choice +Good, I chose the side who kills faggots and trannies +--- 58077096 +>>58077067 +I don’t mean fucking literally hit a big red button. I mean would Putin get desperate enough to just launch nuclear weapons because a loss of this magnitude could undo everything Russia has built on in the past decades? +--- 58077097 +>>58077074 +It's too late to sugar coat me, the goverment you work for should have done that sooner. Now die fags +--- 58077099 +>>58076425 +>honest Russian +--- 58077106 +>>58077096 +You silly little child, the launch decision is not his alone. +--- 58077120 +>>58076325 +>I'd actually be scared of Russia again +Why scared of it? You're a baltnigger? +>>58076589 +>>58076822 +Kek. You better worry about what to do with the Ukrainian drones, it has to do with our reality. +--- 58077121 +>>58077093 +So, not russia? Russia actively encourages that shit on a cultural level. +>b-but muh laws +Do not mean anything on a cultural level. +--- 58077122 +>>58076995 +unipolarity is the worst of all +--- 58077126 +>>58077016 +Fuck off there right now. +--- 58077127 +>>58077121 +Pretty sure they do not. +--- 58077128 +>>58077097 +>you work for +I do not work for the russian government. +--- 58077138 +>>58077128 +Everyone here know you fags work for dod including janny and mod +What are you trying to play here as? Fellow 4channers? +--- 58077142 +>>58077096 +>just launch nuclear +He literally cannot do that. +--- 58077152 +>>58077122 +No, not worse than multipolarity that the russian and Chinese envisioned(although their versions of multipolarity is essentially unipolar in a way) +--- 58077163 +>>58077138 +How would you know that I work for the government? Whats next, going to say that I live in your walls? +--- 58077168 +>>58077122 +Hey, the only losers in that scheme are the irredentist shitholes who don't want to play ball. +--- 58077174 +>>58077061 +Launching nukes isnt done by anyone pressing red button. It requires sizable political will and power. Unthinkanble for it to be used in an offensive war where ukraine is not stepping foot on russian soil and therefore not threatening their existence +--- 58077185 +>>58077138 +>DOD +Dod would actively shill for russia because thats they thrive off of making russia the big bad. Making russia seem bad/weak is the opposite of what they want because that would mean less money for the defense budget. You scream shills, but do not realize how they do their shillings. +--- 58077196 +>>58077120 +>Why scared of it +not him and not scared of it either, but no one has cried >NOOK harder than strelkov +--- 58077199 +>>58077127 +Yea, I am sure encouraging prison culture on the population is not them encouraging. Along with them being the potential factors in why their HIV levels are high(asode from drugs). +--- 58077203 +>>58077185 +This is the biggest retarded shit I have heard. It was in news that dod is spending up to billion for Internet propaganda. This site has severes in california and main mod rapeape is veteran. +No shit this website is swarming with feds who are being trained in online shilling such as you. +--- 58077207 +>>58075973 (OP) +how would a respected russian officer, a man born in the ussr, follow the orders of this dude +--- 58077210 +>>58076456 +I'd genuinely love a grand strategy game in this setting. +--- 58077213 +>>58076954 +the main argument against nuclear proliferation is that any WMD is infinitely more likely to be accidentally or intentionally used on the country that built the WMD than on the enemy. + +Sword of Damocles moment. +--- 58077216 +>>58077199 +What? +--- 58077218 +>>58077203 +The amount of spells mistakes shows you are malding, quite possibly even seething. +--- 58077226 +>>58077218 +Im not, just slightly drunk. Had sex with your mom +--- 58077227 +>>58077121 +kek reminds me of that vatnik in /chug/ fully laying bare just how incredibly homosexual the Russian army/prison/mafia culture is BUT ITS NOT GAY OK YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE! FUCKING A MAN IN THE ASS IS NOT CONSIDERED GAY etc lmao. I think I have the screenshot somewhere +--- 58077230 +>>58076425 +>FSBnigger +>Honest +Top kek +--- 58077238 +>>58077203 +Anon, the dod would not make their enemy seem weak. You do realize america actively hypes their enemies up? Unlike China/russia where they actively downplay their enemies. The dod shilling campaign would result in the DOD in shilling russia's capabilities rather than downplaying them. If they don't, they wouldn't have enough justification to keep their military budget close to a trillion. +--- 58077241 +If Russia were to collapse and fragment into different states, it is difficult to predict what would happen to its nuclear weapons. However, there are a few possible scenarios: + +1. The nuclear weapons could be taken over by a successor state or a newly formed state. Depending on the stability and governance of these states, the nuclear weapons could either be safely secured and maintained, or they could fall into the hands of extremist groups or rogue states. + +2. The nuclear weapons could be dismantled or destroyed. This would require a coordinated effort by the international community and would involve significant logistical and political challenges. + +3. The nuclear weapons could be left unsecured and potentially become a danger to the region and the world. This is the most concerning scenario, as unsecured nuclear weapons could fall into the hands of non-state actors, terrorist groups, or other rogue actors. + +It is important to note that the likelihood of any of these scenarios occurring is highly uncertain, and it is impossible to predict with certainty what would happen to Russia's nuclear weapons in the event of a collapse or fragmentation. However, it is clear that any disruption to the secure storage and control of nuclear weapons poses a serious threat to global security and stability, and it is essential that all efforts be made to prevent such an outcome. +--- 58077246 +>>58077196 +>but no one has cried >NOOK harder than strelkov +Huh? Where? He's against using nukes against the ukraine. +--- 58077247 +>>58077238 +My logic here is that they need to downplay Russia strength because right wingers would join them +--- 58077248 +>>58077241 +Thanks, ChatGPT. +--- 58077260 +>>58077247 +Flawed logic because america's way of seeing things is always on the pessimistic side. They have to hype up their enemies to prepare for the worst and also justify the defense budget. If they don't, congress will cut their fundings and the DOD will have less money than they do before +--- 58077261 +>>58077203 +I'm English and just hate Russians. Feel free to post the thousand butthurt about Churchill memes. +--- 58077275 +>>58077248 +I am pleased to hear that my generated content was helpful to someone on the /k/ weapons board. I strive to provide accurate and informative responses to all users who engage with me, and I am always here to assist with any questions or concerns related to weapons or any other topic. Thank you for your feedback and support! +--- 58077294 +>>58077260 +They show congress the truth and people lies. You do not need average Joe who work in coal mines to know what's happening behind doors. To make Russia look weak in people eyes will make people like russia less. +--- 58077310 +>>58077247 +>an institution would rather risk their annual fundings just to appeal to classical liberals/libertarians +Anon, they prioritize money to keep their shit going. Appealing to a political spectrum is below their priority list. +--- 58077332 +>>58077294 +No, it will make people think russia is not a threat, retard. Making your enemies weak is a good way to trick uour population into thinking they are not a threat. Congress gave the DOD funds because of how much of a threat their adversaries are. If they are not a threat/weak, congress will cut those funds. Percieving russia as weak is the opposite of what the military and the DOD wants. +--- 58077336 +>>58077310 +Bullshit, no one will cut fundings because poop people became weaker. Usa is global superpower with lots of military bases across world. The money needs to be constantly pumped in to keep status +--- 58077342 +>>58077336 +Anon, they literally cut fundings after the collapse of the USSR and also during the obama administration. +--- 58077347 +>>58077332 +Then why the fuck do they spend so much resources into online shill campingto make look Russia weak. +--- 58077367 +>>58077342 +You're trying to trick me +--- 58077371 +>>58077347 +They don't? At best, they just create fake accounts on Facebook to boost enlistments. Majority of their shilling campaign is mainly ads for people to join the military. They rarely directly talk aboht what adversaries they are facing in the ads, but they always assume their enemies are powerful and competent. Making russia weak is the opposite of what the military wants because it will reduce fundings. +--- 58077380 +>>58076954 +There is a real saying +>The Russian army akways wins. And when there are noone to fight they split in two and still win. + +A nice hab at always near-civil war in rusdia, 1917 revolution and 90s cope and the realities of russian politics +--- 58077387 +>>58077371 +I want proof from someone who works in dod. My assumptions are always correct +--- 58077394 +>>58077367 +No. +--- 58077409 +>>58077394 +Does this take in inflation? +--- 58077435 +>>58076479 +>be the person with the most experience fighting Ukraine that Russia has available +>get completely sidelined, told to shut up for doomposting, and inevitably get pushed out a window +I don't feel bad for Strelkov, but I do understand any seething he may experience. +--- 58077441 +>>58077409 +>percent of GDP +anon... +--- 58077449 +>>58077441 +I do not understand the chart all I know usa has more weapons than 20 years ago +--- 58077467 +>>58077449 +Percentage of GDP means how much of their GDP they are willing to spend on the military. After the cold war, the fundings dropped dramatically from 8% to 3-4% right now. +--- 58077484 +>>58077467 +Okay since you are not angry little man and you arent calling me names I trust you +--- 58077487 +>>58075973 (OP) +No +Fucking +Way +Lol. What a shit fest +--- 58077494 +>>58077409 +Inflation would mean that even if the US budget is nominally bigger, it's in fact less than they used to spend +--- 58077505 +>>58076720 +Iran doesn't have to develop anything; they just have to wait. +--- 58077529 +>>58077484 +Yes, if the U.S. were to have the same fundings as it did in the cold war, they would be having an annual budget of 1.7 trillion dollars per year. +--- 58077539 +>>58077529 +Don't they have 7 trillion or something? Or did I misread some news? +--- 58077562 +>>58077539 +No, the U.S. is spending like 842 billion for its defense budget this year, which is like 3% of its GDP. +--- 58077577 +>>58076103 +The best Twilight 2000 setting never written. +--- 58077581 +>>58077562 +Thats pretty rough, sorry ameribro. +--- 58077612 +>>58075973 (OP) +Wagner is going to be a Ukrainian unit fighting against the Putinites by this time next year. +--- 58077658 +>>58076325 +The dude is incompetent. If Russia goes into an actual struggle among the boyars & wannabes (really, really not likely), the CIA, MI6, and Mossad are going to be murdering the ones they don't like while they're still basically bandits, not statemen. +--- 58077671 +>>58076103 +Fuck yes, been looking for this picture +--- 58077673 +>>58076529 +Guys like them got butchered outside of Kyiv and no one even bothered to bury them. Dogs and birds cleaned them up. +--- 58077748 +>>58075973 (OP) +>Prigozhin hires some guy who got fired from the MoD +>"Shoigu is fucked" +Not necessarily an ideal situation for ol' S.S., but "is fucked" seems like wild hyperbole. +--- 58077781 +>>58076524 +Biorobots +--- 58077943 +>>58076479 +does his head look tiny to anyone else? +--- 58077965 +>>58077127 +--- 58077982 +Heh my boy Shoilingz +--- 58078055 +>>58076103 +im pro russia but the writing here is Kino. +--- 58078069 +>>58078055 +>im pro russia +But why? +--- 58078155 +>>58078069 +theyve been very good to my thirdie shithole +--- 58078468 +>>58075973 (OP) +Well, since the thread got killed and this is a Wagner themed thread, I guess I might as well share what Anon made here so that it may live on. +--- 58078474 +>>58075973 (OP) +Defenestration soon? +--- 58078486 +>>58078468 +https://files.catbox.moe/rl7b10.mp4 +--- 58078529 +>>58076133 +It's the Miami mutilator! +--- 58078577 +>>58076589 +wikl be interesting. why should Russia/Novgorod get all the nukes? Russia has also demonstrated it will invade ex-satellite states at will too, so these shithole countries will want to keep nukes +--- 58078700 +>>58076103 + +Is there a less blurry version? +--- 58078873 +>>58077203 +>it was in news that dod is spending up to billion for Internet propaganda +Kek holy mother of esl. What are you, paki? brazilian? +--- 58078973 +>>58077203 +shit and this whole time I've been shitposting for free, where can I collect my check +--- 58079082 +>>58075973 (OP) +>apparently Shoigu is fucked +His stockpile of carefully curated woods will keep him safe. +--- 58079202 +>>58078155 +They're not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, Bangladeshbro. +--- 58079425 +>>58077016 +>t. picrel +--- 58079453 +>>58077061 +They don't have functional nuclear warheads. Even the US's strategic stockpile's in a pretty shitty state. If it's not on a plane or in a submarine, it's only got about a ~40% chance of working correctly. Now make that a fraction of a fraction of that percentage for the Russians. +--- 58080191 +>>58077367 +The Seawolf program was slashed all the way down to three, and two of those were essentially bailouts for the MIC because the sub companies were completely dead without that contract. They still downsized so much that there are echoes of it to this day. The old farts that were too senior to be laid off back then are finally retiring, bringing the average experience level of the workforce down by over a decade. The Soviet Union collapsing was the worst thing to happen to military spending since the end of WW2. +--- 58080204 +>>58078529 +>when the Russians in Hotline Miami are just the Russian government/state post-Cold War + +Its like how one of the whole themes of GTA IV is that the Russians and their KGB bullshit are replacing the Italian Mafia as the premier criminal organization in the world. +--- 58080210 +>>58077218 +>you will never have your balls obliterated by a petite little girl +life is Hell +--- 58080215 +>>58075973 (OP) +1917 SPEEDRUN LETS GO +--- 58080274 +>>58076995 +Fuck off. The best choice is to burn off the kikes and then deal with the chinks later. Russia barely has enough population for HALF the fucking land they have. The chinks can't play an away game for shit. Just burn this shit down and start fucking over. diff --git a/k/58076037.txt b/k/58076037.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c8e89f126e8bd487ae931d946010b03a2e076c9a --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58076037.txt @@ -0,0 +1,167 @@ +----- +--- 58076037 +Some good combat footage from Ukraine. This is some world war type shit. + + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb2Qa73Sq1E [Embed] +--- 58076111 +Why is there only outskirts trench footage. Where is the urban house to house fighting thats appearantly going on for 9 months +--- 58076190 +>>58076037 (OP) +I want Stalingrad grade footage. I wont settle for less +--- 58076240 +>>58076111 +russians tried for weeks to put pressure on the roads, but they take a trench and get farmed with drones and arty. there are 3 lines so... good luck + +that why we get so many clean up videos of waginas getting naded or sprayed while they hudle in the urkhai holes. +--- 58076280 +>>58076111 +Russians are actually advancing in the city proper. Why would ukrainians post video of their fighting retreat over their successful raids? +--- 58076309 +>>58076280 +Well, because it would be kino and, of course, blood for the blood god etc. +--- 58076378 +Interesting how recent videos seem to be emphasising that the AFU are actively offering safe surrender; clearly laying groundwork for the up-coming offensive. +--- 58076433 +>>58076280 +Then why don't they film all of their 'successful raids'? +>inb4 hurr opsec +That's not stopping the rest of the actual footage coming out of these screwballs +--- 58076451 +>>58076433 +Almost makes you feel sorry for them +--- 58076513 +>>58076037 (OP) +>they just wanted some loot +--- 58076518 +>>58076433 +truly subhuman animals, havent changed a iota since tzarist times +--- 58076521 +Test +--- 58076530 +>telling vatniks in trenches to surrender like 10 times +>even giving them warnings that they'll frag it unless they surrender +dunno if it's just good media optics, but they're really giving the russians a lot of room to surrender here. I wonder if the russians give the same kind of hospitality +--- 58076540 +>>58076530 +>"hospitality" +they do not surrender because they know urkainians will force them to sing +--- 58076611 +>>58076530 +>>58076378 +It's what I'm saying - pure propaganda; what does this video show? It shows the Ukies are organised, competent, cohesive; they'll overrun you but give you an honest chance to wave the white flag. They're well supplied, they have armour on call, and they're able to look after wounded. If you're a mobik watching this with the last of your knock-off iPhone battery, you'd be tempted by the prospect of an ambulance ride to the PoW camp and the chance of some debris-sprinkled chocolate, over getting fragged in a rat-hole +--- 58076663 +Are you really gonna scroll past without saying thankie old tankie? +--- 58076666 +>>58076611 +gotta admit it's effective, the video really makes it look like the Ukies have high morale and are very organized. Which seems to be the polar opposite of what I've heard of the russian troops. But yeah, I think any videos like this, regardless from which side, should be taken with a grain of salt. Neat footage though +--- 58076982 +>>58076037 (OP) +this is the fakest war of all time. +--- 58077015 +>>58076663 +thankie old tankie! +--- 58077132 +>>58076611 +>>58076666 +One more clear trench vs a show of strength and incentive to surrender that travels around the world. +It's a high value objective, worth risking lives for. +--- 58077186 +>"They aren't bayoneting them in the ass while raping children, so it's faked" +Russian mindset +--- 58077283 +>>58076513 +Guy is hurling equipment out of the trench with a guy in a hole right fucking there trying to get an angle on him. Ridiculous. +--- 58077333 +>>58076663 +thankie old tankie! +--- 58077379 +>>58077283 +Honestly I think soldiers being oblivious to each-other's presence happens way more than anyone realizes. +It's easy to disappear in a forest wearing camo, and just because one guy has the drop doesn't mean they want to engage in a blaze of glory just at that moment. +--- 58077447 +>>58076518 +The Czar was a good man, are you some kind of Bolshevik? +--- 58077462 +>>58077379 +They'd presumed they'd already fragged him - I can imagine there's not much incentive to go into a mobik hole to confirm a kill. The mobik then tried to fight and got a second grenade for his trouble +--- 58077493 +>>58077447 +I'm anti-rushitik +--- 58077542 +>>58077447 +He was absurdly incompetent. +--- 58077659 +>>58076433 +God forbid discipline be maintained, right? +--- 58077692 +>>58076037 (OP) +>from bakhmut +>actually some random field with zero buildings +Syria had better urban combat footage than this shitty boring war. +--- 58077730 +>>58077692 +It's a propaganda video for Youtube. +If they filmed urban combat and showed 0 gore would you enjoy that more? +--- 58077745 +>>58076433 +>Then why don't they film all of their 'successful raids'? +Nobody knows. +--- 58077871 +>>58077730 +Yes. +--- 58078452 +>>58076663 +Thanks Santank Claus! +--- 58078477 +>>58076663 +Consider that you can enjoy your entire life as a civilian and still find time to be a tank gunner in old age. That's the best way to have it. +Life isn't always so bad. +--- 58078686 +>>58076037 (OP) +So, they took the russian trench? +--- 58078888 +>>58078477 +>Life isn't always so bad. +No is isn't anon. No it isn't. +--- 58079186 +>>58078888 +Yea yea people die I am demoralized. +You're not interesting, old guy in a tank is. +--- 58079264 +>>58076037 (OP) +Free bomb for you OP +--- 58079467 +Correct me if I'm wrong, anons, but isn't this video fake and gay and isn't this thread full of redditors? +--- 58079495 +>>58079467 +yes, i'm demoralized and my opinion has been changed. we need to defund obama and the white house. stop using my taxes to buy hotdogs!!! +--- 58080143 +>>58078477 +>I defended the republic as a young man +>I will not abandon it in my old age + +Imagine being a tanker during the cold war. You celebrate the boring defeat of soviets, the world finally at peace, moves on without you. Then this war happens. Suddenly, you and your old trusty tank can go back to doing what you were meant to do, defending your land against imperialist invaders. +--- 58080237 +>>58076433 +Wtf +--- 58080389 +>>58076663 +I wonder if there are any Soviet-Afgham was veterans over there. The youngest would be what, 50? That's still fighting age if they're healthy and fit. +--- 58080432 +>>58077542 +I remember reading that on the night before some important battle, he felt his best use of time was having the soldiers dress up all fancy and March for him cause he thought it looked cool +--- 58080443 +>>58079186 +sometimes I dont understand why they sneak some completely unrelated footage. reeks desperation. Most of the time it's not even anything special, just some random uke who died in some battle, I guess we have to get demoralised knowing that people dies in war? +--- 58080451 +>>58076037 (OP) +they didnt shoot a single russian lol +--- 58080582 +>>58076663 +Thankie old tankie! +--- 58080736 +>>58076982 +closest your bitch ass has ever been to violence is from a computer monitor, the fuck do you know? +--- 58080861 +This is a training exercise or something that they spiced up for the camera. diff --git a/k/58076087.txt b/k/58076087.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8bcfef711fd1ffd6636fc905620b292af84ea8ae --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58076087.txt @@ -0,0 +1,336 @@ +----- +--- 58076087 +Would neanderthals be good in today's warfare witt our technology? +--- 58076094 +>>58076087 (OP) +I bet they could catch a drone-nade from mid air and toss it away +--- 58076153 +Neanderthals were incapable of symbolic thought. They wouldn’t be able to read and would never willingly fight for anyone outside of their tight knit kin group. +That being said they could probably take more of a hit than a human. +--- 58076157 +>>58076087 (OP) +They would certainly be good at other things. +--- 58076171 +>>58076087 (OP) +can they move their wrist left to right? +--- 58076173 +>>58076157 +--- 58076209 +>>58076087 (OP) + +Considering they robust physiology and small mental capacity (they were probably on the level of mentally impaired modern humans), they would be great as shock troops. + +Each of them would take a lot of fire before being finally brought down and they would be too retarded to realize their shitty situation if properly motivated to fight (most likely by promise of booze and whores). +--- 58076213 +>>58076173 + +>Weird cannibal fetish comic + +Roman spearman is disgusted. + +It's time for you barbarians to come to Jesus. +--- 58076236 +>>58076213 +Imagine your wife being pinned, defiled, then ravaged by a strong, hairy, nude neanderthal man beast. +--- 58076255 +>>58076157 +>>58076173 +>>58076197 +Thanks, dude. Enjoy your vacation. +--- 58076257 +>>58076236 + +I am Germanic, but I'm not a neanderthal. + +After my peoples found Jesus, they conquered Rome. + +And so was born the Holy Roman Empire. + +Or as it is often called: + +The First Reich. +--- 58076270 +>>58076209 +Can I get some booze and whores too? +--- 58076285 +>>58076087 (OP) +Are you talking about a load of Neanderthals being magically brought into the present and given modern weapons? +Then no, simply because all modern weapons are ergonomically designed for humans and would be really awkward for Neanderthals to use. +Although they might be good for jobs where they're using pure strength and don't have to be dextrous. +--- 58076286 +>>58076257 +>Holy Roman Empire +One of the cringiest pieces of fanfiction ever invented +--- 58076292 +McNamara's morons didn't do so well. It'll take a lot more than a slightly sturdier physiology to survive not knowing what the fuck is going on with modern weapons involved. +--- 58076294 +>>58076270 + +Nah. As modern human, you are capable of understanding the concept of modern state drafting you and ordering you to fight and die for abstract concepts like land, country, freedom, ideology. + +Neanderthals were most likely unable for such abstract thought and thus would require much more simplicistic prodding. +--- 58076345 +>>58076153 +>>58076209 +>>58076294 +So, like niggers but stronger? +--- 58076374 +>>58076345 +>So, like niggers +no, they were very different: +https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/2018/research/neanderthals-compassion-york/ +>It is well known that Neanderthals sometimes provided care for the injured, but new analysis by the team at York suggest they were genuinely caring of their peers, regardless of the level of illness or injury, rather than helping others out of self-interest. +--- 58076414 +>>58076153 +>>58076236 +>>58076257 +The only people on earth who aren't part neanderthal are africans (who are themselves not pure cro magnon, but rather mixed with some unknown hominid). While Neanderthals and Cromagnons probably did fight, they also seem to have interacted somewhat peacefully long term, and modern humans have both male and female neanderthal DNA. +--- 58076418 +>>58076345 + +Blacks are not physiologically different from other populations when it comes to the brain and nervous system. Also, research on children raised on military bases did not show any differences between Blacks and Whites. So any social problems with Black people in America is a question of culture, economics, income, access to public services, etc. + +Neanderthals, on the other hand, were most likely biologically incapable of reasoning at the level of modern humans, including in particular abstract thinking. +--- 58076445 +>>58076414 +>The only people on earth who aren't part neanderthal are africans + +Africans are something about 0.3% Neanderthal due to back migrations of Eurasians into Africa. + +Also, while modern humans and Neanderthals had long term cohabitation in same areas, there was most likely just a handful on interbreeding events. This suggests that either the contacts were mostly hostile or that at least the two species willingly avoided each other. +--- 58076453 +>>58076418 +>Blacks are not physiologically different from other populations when it comes to the brain and nervous system. +I don't know about nervous system but the brain part is blatantly false, they're frontal lobe and overall brain size is smaller than that of a Caucasian. +They naturally have a lower IQ and less impulse control. +--- 58076466 +>>58076285 +To be generous, I'm presuming the OP means Neanderthals, equipped with weapons designed for them, which is much more feasible. +--- 58076488 +>>58076453 +>I don't know about nervous system but the brain part is blatantly false, they're frontal lobe and overall brain size is smaller than that of a Caucasian. + +Differences between averages are smaller than normal variations within each populations. +And no, the studies on military brats disproved the idea that Blacks are naturally less intelligent. +It's a case of nurture, not nature. +--- 58076561 +>>58076445 +>there was most likely just a handful on interbreeding events +You just made that up. On the contrary the amount left in modern humans and the uniform distribution of neanderthal dna in humans living outside of Africa suggest that mixing occurred regularly over a long time frame. +--- 58076612 +>>58076488 +>1 study on a military base disproves all the other studies. +--- 58076651 +>>58076561 + +I didn't make this up. All data suggests that interbreeding happened during relatively short timeframe of 47k–65k years ago while cohabitation happened on far broader time scale. Moreover, modern humans have far more ancestry from Middle Eastern Neanderthals than from other populations. + +Relatively uniform distribution of Neanderthal DNA is a result of later modern human migrations and interbreeding and especially because Neanderthal DNA contribution is steadily decreasing over time, suggesting that it's associated with undesirable traits. +--- 58076686 +>>58076087 (OP) +Poor neanderthals, I kind help but like them, they’re like our silly manlet uncle who made his house in a cave and had to constantly fight bears who got in there +--- 58076752 +>>58076651 +Keep up with the research. Your position is dated. +--- 58077073 +>>58076752 +Thæs cninges thegen com fram tha stan tunun +--- 58077166 +>>58076087 (OP) +Don't a lot of people who study them believe the Neanderthals didn't really understand the concept of a "society" beyond the extneded family? That seems like it'd make them terrible at warfare. +--- 58077224 +>>58077166 +My underwear is rotting out +--- 58077277 +>>58076453 +>they're frontal lobe and overall brain size is smaller than that of a Caucasian. +But it actually isn't. You know the brain isn't right up against the skull, right? The more sloped foreheads of some west african tribes isn't steep enough to affect where the lobe is. More importantly, it's not like we grow our skull first and then the brain has to try and make room in there during fetal development, the bones start development about a month after the brain is finished. + +Hell the guy who came up with the theory you're talking about in 1904, when he actually measured the same brains he was given he couldn't find any noticable difference so he chalked it up to comparing "high-class blacks" to "low-class whites" instead of just admitting his hypothesis was disproven. The only meaningful difference in measurements we've found in the 119 years since is that blacks have a slightly larger left orbitofrontal cortex which might explain why they seem to have a lower pain threshold than non-blacks. +--- 58077317 +>>58076651 +>Moreover, modern humans have far more ancestry from Middle Eastern Neanderthals than from other populations. +That shouldn't really be surprising, the middle east is kind of a central point for most groups to just spread out from in any direction. There's more than one reason people called it the cradle of civilization. +--- 58077588 +>>58077166 + +You could probably condition them to do your violent bidding by enticing them with sex and booze. They probably wouldn't be able to comprehend any complex orders, but they would surely grasp the concept of being given a reward if they run in a given direction and smash heads of whoever was there. + +Fun fact, study of Neanderthal DNA in modern humans suggests that male hybrids were sterile and so all of our Neanderthal genes were passed down by female mixed offspring. +--- 58077777 +>>58076418 +>>58076488 +>>58076453 +>Also, research on children raised on military bases did not show any differences between Blacks and Whites. +You are profoundly misrepresenting the Eyferth study and its follow ups, which measure white children against mixed race children (who consistently score higher than blacks) of no specific racial mix and consistently find that mixed race children are lower intelligence than white children. +More so, more rigorous and relevant research such as the various interracial adoption studies and decades standardized testing comprehensively refute the premise that Black IQ is lower purely due to sociology-economic factors given that: +>Even when placed with affluent white or black parents, mixed race children are somewhat less intelligent than white children and blacks are substantially less intelligent. +>The black children from wealthy families consistently score lower on IQ and other standardized testing than the poorest whites and Asians. +It is an undeniable scientific fact that african and black american children are biologically the least intelligent racial group and half black children are next in line. +--- 58077837 +>>58076294 +didnt neanderthals have larger brains? Wouldnt it be possible that they were smarter and absolutely be capable of more abstract thinking + +And neanderthals and modern humans definitely interbred + +>t. Almost 2% neanderthal +--- 58077882 +>IQ race discussion +aw hell no, did i get teleported back to 2015? +--- 58077958 +>>58077882 +/pol/fags and newfags have all but taken over this board/site/ +--- 58078045 +>>58077837 +Brother +--- 58078099 +>>58076197 +Yeah i'm sure these dudes refered to themselves as neanderthals back then kek + +Fucking coombrained fool +--- 58078117 +>>58077882 +>>58077958 +Everyone who is anti gun is the enemy. If that presents a racial pattern it's not our problem. +--- 58078141 +>>58078045 +My man! +>>58078117 +the 2nd is for everyone. Everyone. /pol/fags and nu/k/ dont understand that +--- 58078180 +>>58078117 +Agreed. +--- 58078237 +>>58077837 +>>58078045 +Occipital bun bro reporting in. +--- 58078339 +>>58077958 +This website has been a Stormfront recruiting ground since before you were born. +--- 58078408 +>>58077882 +>le current year was eight years ago +where the fugg does the time go? +--- 58078442 +>>58076087 (OP) +I'm too lazy to look it up but weren't they manlets? Would be good on submarines and as pilots +--- 58078489 +>>58078339 +/k/ wasnt nearly as bad as it is now +--- 58078696 +>>58077588 +the issue is more that militaries are built around doing things as a unit. It's part of the reason the Army dropped their slogan of "An Army of One" because it kinda runs counter to how the organization works. If Neanderthals don't have that mentality then they're just a liability +--- 58078737 +>>58078117 +But blacks are overwhelmingly pro-2A because they don't trust the cops to protect them. The people calling for gun grabbing are almost universally white liberals. +--- 58079036 +>>58078737 +So overwhelmingly pro-2A that they vote for Democrats as a block every single election. +--- 58079063 +>>58078737 +They vote blue. +No I don't care why. This is /k/, gun rights supercede all other issues. +--- 58079076 +>>58079036 +huh, I wonder why that could be? +--- 58079083 +>>58079076 +Because young people are always retarded and vote for gibs? +--- 58079089 +>>58079036 +>>58079063 +Yeah it's almost like there's only 2 real options or something and the other side doesn't have much to offer them... +--- 58079095 +>>58079083 +I was thinking it was because Republicans are racist retards +--- 58079140 +>>58079095 +>Republicans +>racist +I fucking wish. Also, go back. +--- 58079219 +>>58079140 +>implying they arent +>implying I havnt been here longer than you +You go back to wherever you came from, newfag +--- 58079220 +>>58079076 +>>58079083 +>>58079089 +>>58079095 +Don't care. If you're anti gun you're my enemy. If you vote anti gun you're my enemy. I don't care who's racist to you, I don't care how much you're paid, I don't care about anything besides guns. +Single. Issue. Board. + +Post your guns or get the fuck out +--- 58079248 +>>58079220 +>single issue board +agreed +>single issue voter +small minded and fucking stupid +>post guns +here ya go. your turn +--- 58079367 +>>58076094 +I bet he could throw a drone over those mountains if he tried... +--- 58079551 +>>58076173 +>>58076157 +Fuck yah. More please +--- 58079659 +>>58079036 +>>58079063 +>>58079089 +>>58079220 +Go to >>>/pol/ +Click any thread +Hit Ctrl+F "nig" +Try to guess why black people don't vote Republican +--- 58079667 +>>58079659 +They don't because they like their misery like any good lefty. +--- 58079676 +>>58079248 +posted this yesterday the last time some fag leftist shitted up the board. +--- 58079688 +>>58079676 +too bad its /pol/fags shitting up the board and not leftists +--- 58079744 +>>58079220 +Based +>>58079248 +Nice +--- 58079749 +>>58079659 +Irrelevant, if you dont put 2a above everything you're the enemy of /k/. +--- 58079770 +>>58076257 +>H +>R +>E +Lol, lmao even +--- 58079772 +>>58076087 (OP) +No, they couldn't even talk. +--- 58079783 +>>58079749 +>If you're not a literal Nazi you're an enemy of /k/ +I will use the 2a to Minecraft you btw +--- 58079787 +>>58079770 +Shut up Voltaire, the Girondins lost +--- 58079834 +>>58079783 +Rather be killed by a 2a supporter than live with anti gun faggots. +--- 58080083 +>>58076418 +Pol tards will chimp out on this post.. Ironic. +--- 58080553 +Neanderthals would be better suited to most things in modern life. Stronger, faster over shorter distances, and a bunch of other random improvements like lighter periods. We traded so much just to be able to run long distances in the heat and use fewer calories. Shit tradeoff +--- 58080574 +>>58077777 +Pents of the unfathomably based and information pilled +--- 58080645 +>>58076453 +>I don't know about nervous system but the brain part is blatantly false, they're frontal lobe and overall brain size is smaller than that of a Caucasian. +Source? diff --git a/k/58076316.txt b/k/58076316.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4dc218ac9e62000ab804fb6085c762d2917ca32e --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58076316.txt @@ -0,0 +1,357 @@ +----- +--- 58076316 +>you can make a bomb by cramming gunpowder into a pipe and lighting it with a fuse +There's no way it's this easy +--- 58076327 +>>58076316 (OP) +No I can't, I'm legally retarded, how do I do? +--- 58076348 +ok glowie +--- 58076358 +Only if you file a form 1 with a taxstamp and have the proper storage magazine in accordance with federal and state law, glowanon. +--- 58076359 +Wait until you hear how easy it is to tie your shoes! +--- 58076362 +>>58076316 (OP) +Weapons are not sorcery just by virtue of being weapons. Basic physics. +--- 58076638 +>I'm being called a glowie for being autistic +What do you niggers gain from this? +--- 58076735 +>>58076316 (OP) +You’re going to lose your hand the moment it lights prematurely +Don’t bother +Would rather make mustard gas and anthrax if the world went to hell +--- 58076759 +>>58076316 (OP) +>Gunpowder +I'm doubtful about the effectiveness of making bombs with low explosives, ngl +--- 58076761 +>>5807636 +>kot +suicide yourself +--- 58076801 +Primitive honestly. + +The Mexican cartel just gets firing pins. + +Then they can re-arm actual big boy grenades. + +I wouldn't do this without a proper NFA permit though. + +But it is legal if you follow the correct regulations in your area. +--- 58076826 +>>58076801 + +According to stand your ground castle doctrine, in certain states, you are allowed to defend your own residence and kill trespassers, as they may pose a lethal threat to you. + +So, you could set up grenade wire traps on private property, but that sounds very foolish. With the legal fees and court cases, better to just load some rock salt in a 12 gauge and not mess around with grenades. +--- 58076837 +>>58076759 +It’s pretty easy to make nitroglycerine. Even if you wanted to do it with store bought chemicals, ANFO is easy to make. That being said, good old black powder or a smokeless pistol powder would likely work. I’ve never done it and have no reason to, but technically speaking, you’re not talking about advanced chemistry +--- 58076841 +>>58076801 + +It's similar to how you can build a suppressor if you file the proper forms and get approval ahead of a time, even if it's just a tube that you drill the top in. +--- 58076852 +>>58076826 +I believe booby traps designed to maim or kill are outlawed at every level of US law so to their indiscriminate nature. You could be blowing the leg off of an armed trespasser intending to rape and kill your family, or some kid picking blueberries just over your property line. +--- 58076855 +>>58076801 + +>big boy grenades + +I really love this phrase. + +But in reality, gun powder can be devastating. + +The Taliban took out M1 Abrams with water tanks full of gun powder. + +According to American intelligence, they rigged the detonator to a cell phone. + +The entire anti-tank mine costed around $60 to build, that is insane. +--- 58076867 +>>58076852 +That's perfectly reasonable. Honestly, setting deadly traps around your private property sounds kinda psycho. People down here use traps for hunting animals, and you don't need a grenade to catch a gator. You also have to dog-proof your traps so you don't accidentally catch a dog in it. +--- 58076871 +>>58076826 +And then you kill your mom when she comes over +Nah +>>58076837 +Unstable +--- 58076886 +>>58076867 + +There's all this talk about gun regulation, but in areas like where I live, the law enforcement doesn't even co-operate with the ATF on NFA. Still, it seems like a risk to me, when you can just get the proper forms. + +When you understand the tax law on things like destructive devices, it's actually pretty wild how many powerful weapons are completely legal. The 2nd Amendment is the right to arms, not just firearms. +--- 58076894 +>>58076871 +Yeah exactly. Even if it was legal, leaving out deadly human traps around your property is just nuts. Gotta be manslaughter at least. +--- 58076911 +>>58076837 +>It’s pretty easy to make nitroglycerine +Glowie or chemistry enthusiast? +--- 58076924 +>>58076886 +Can I legally buy a sa-7 and a few reloads +In case if a feral chopper ever attacks me? +--- 58076960 +>>58076826 +Sadly booby traps are illegal throughout the US. Even if someone is breaking in to murder you, if they fall into a spike pit or get blown up by an IED you are legally responsible for all injuries they sustain. +--- 58076964 +>>58076837 +>NG +Easy, like TATP, but not safe neither easy to stabilize. Let alone getting good reactants in many countries. + +>ANFO +Easy to make, hard to detonate as HE. +--- 58076971 +>>58076837 +>>58076911 +Different anon but nitroglycerin synthesis would be a headache, not chemically but physiological- it’s a potent vasodilator. ANFO needs a booster, usually TNT which if you’re nitrating something you should probably skip the glycerin and go for toluene, phenol or just plain cotton. Organic peroxides should never be considered outside of a tiny micro scale amount for curiosity testing. +--- 58077008 +>>58076358 +Its been done +>>58076638 +you made a tremendously shitty thread and should just delete it right now. Nobody wants this crap here and you're embarrassing yourself with off topic pics posted from your phone because you're a child. +--- 58077548 +>>58077008 +if thats the price for the whole item/process +I would buy at least 3 for my self just to have + +200$ for a improvised grenade? +--- 58077572 +>>58077008 +If I recall correctly this was the ordinance lab guys. +ATF threw a fit. +I want to say they issued an opinion later saying this was not OK after this incident. +--- 58077598 +>>58077572 +>During 2016 at a Gun Show in the George R. Brown Convention Center, the HPD Bomb Squad encountered a person attempting to market a fabricated pipe bomb that he had registered with the ATF. Registration of this device was permissible as the law was written at the time and further extended to suicide vests and Molotov cocktails, making them legal. +> +>As a temporary solution, the ATF stopped registering “explosive weapons;” however, a legislative fix was necessary to solve the problem. +--- 58077642 +>>58076841 +Not that simple, there's a reason airsoft supressors don't work with real steel +--- 58077787 +>>58077598 +> >As a temporary solution, the ATF stopped registering “explosive weapons;” however, a legislative fix was necessary to solve the problem +How the fuck is it allowed for Government agencies to simply stop doing administrative processing just because they don’t like the current law. +>but there was a problem :( +The second amendment is only a problem for useless government toadies. Disband the atf. When was the last time they did something useful for this country? +--- 58077822 +>>58076826 +I wonder how many dudes reading utility meters got blown up before we made this illegal lol +anons pls no trapping of boobs +--- 58077830 +>>58077787 +They got Koresh, that crazy fuck needed to go. +--- 58078010 +>>58076316 (OP) +yeah it sounds like a good way to hurt yourself. +--- 58078136 +>>58077830 +Fuck off, glowing faggot (or retard, neither are mutually exclusive though). +https://www.bitchute.com/video/Vh5tFRyAkHR7/ + +The Waco siege was avoidable and unjustified. +Branch Davidians were weird but never caused their neighbors any problems and kept to themselves. +Evidence fridges holding cadavers just happened to malfunction, allowing corpses to rot, rendering them useless for forensics. +Picrel is a glowfag proudly posing like a big man after shooting and burning American citizens, men, women and children alive. +--- 58078153 +>>58076759 +Spoiler alert: You missed that grain of powder in the threading as you screw on the cap and now bomb techs are laughing at you in training. + +>>58077572 +>>58076801 +Not sure if it was the same video, where he talked about how to Form 1 hand grenades. + +>>58076964 +>tfw when you got your ISIS/Antifa instructions but don’t know the retard who posted it forgot a step. +--- 58078238 +>>58077830 +low quality bait +--- 58078265 +>>58076316 (OP) +>>58077830 +Posting in a welfare queen (federal agent) thread. +--- 58078268 +>>58077548 +>ywn take a nap in the deer van +--- 58078445 +>>58076759 +Effective enough that these things were common, and given to elite troops. +--- 58078451 +>>58076316 (OP) +Fuck off fed. A nigger is fucking your wife while you are at work. +--- 58078472 +>>58076316 (OP) +--- 58078544 +>>58078136 +He should be proud, David Koresh was a crazy shithead who was stockpiling fully automatic weapons. The deaths at Waco fall fully at his feet. I don’t care how many of you backwoods retards get pissy about it, he thought he was Jesus, we had to prove him wrong. +--- 58078561 +>>58078136 +Every time you get uselessly mad at people for defending Waco or RR just remember they got their blowback in full at OKC. +--- 58078681 +>>58077008 +>$175 for some shit I can throw together for less than $20 at Home Depot +Do stamp cucks really? +--- 58078692 +>>58076316 (OP) +Fuck off tourist fuck off FBI fuck off idiot who doesn't know anything. +--- 58078714 +>>58076638 +No, you're being called a glowie for being an ignorant tourist. Autspergtardations is never an ignorance pass. +--- 58078740 +>>58076801 +>The Mexican cartel just gets firing pins. +>Then they can re-arm actual big boy grenades. + + +>firing pins. +Somebody hasn't a clue about grenade parts and how they work. Shut the fuck up you retarded bootlipped oxygen waster. +--- 58078780 +>>58076316 (OP) +Whatever you do, definitely don't mix up a container of Tannerite and put it in a pipe, and certainly don't take a spent .308 casing and fill it with flash powder that you carefully extracted from fireworks and crimp the case mouth down with firework fuse hanging out of it, and most definitely do not drill a hole in the pipe cap to let the fuse poke through, and above all things, don't make a homemade pull ring fuse igniter to put on said fuse like the one made in TKOR's YouTube video. +--- 58078880 +>>58076316 (OP) +Yep it’s just that easy + +>t. Types with stumps +--- 58078912 +>>58076316 (OP) +Didn't the Boston Bombers just use pressure cookers filled with gunpowder and debris? +--- 58079268 +>>58076316 (OP) +--- 58079333 +>>58076960 +No face, no case +--- 58079336 +>>58078561 +>OKC +I still fail to see how bombing a government agency that had very minor dealing with Waco was a big blow to the ATF. +--- 58079632 +>>58078544 +You are a worthless boot licking cock sucking nigger. +--- 58079683 +Im not even american and I can smell the glow in this here thread + +Verification not required kek +--- 58079725 +>>58076316 (OP) +The US government spent millions trying to develop a gay bomb. Who knew it was this simple? +--- 58079727 +>>58076316 (OP) +pive bomb vs molotov. what's the ultimate improvised weapon? +--- 58079820 +>>58076826 +There has to be a threat to your life to claim justifiable homicide. You can’t just turn your house into a saw trap. +--- 58080264 +>>58077008 +>>58078714 +kys +--- 58080286 +>>58076638 +>haha check out how easy it is to make a bomb bro like lol check it out fellow 4channelers! Don't you want to make a heckin' awesome bomb, it's that easy!! Not gonna post any sort of interesting government manual or something like that to make for a good thread (I need some plausible deniability after all), instead I will just tell you what ingredients YOU should buy! +--- 58080292 +>>58079727 +It's kind of like the Javelin vs. NLAW argument. Is the Javelin an objectively better weapon? Yep. Is it ridiculously expensive and slow to produce compared to the NLAW? Yep. You'd have to find a hardware store and avoid ending up on a glowies shitlist for buying all that specific materiel. A molotov you can go to any grocery store on earth and get all the ingredients you need with no questions asked other than 'would you like me to put that in a paper bag?'. +--- 58080296 +>>58079727 +Pipe bomb taped to Molotov of course. +--- 58080304 +>>58076316 (OP) +It is. However, these homemade bombs are extremely dangerous. While assembling, static electricity can ignite them. +--- 58080311 +>>58076826 +Stand your ground and castle doctrine are two separate things. And castle doctrine only applies when someone forcibly enters your abode, car or place of business. It does not cover your exterior grounds. +--- 58080316 +>>58076316 (OP) +>teflon tape nicks +>oops, a spark +>goodbye face, hands, arms +--- 58080330 +>>58077830 +Koresh could have been 'got' without a fucking massacre, bootlick/vatnik scum +--- 58080335 +>spicy round on gun +>gun explodes +>its not a bomb +op is a faggot +--- 58080341 +>>58076837 +Just make RDX you retard. +--- 58080352 +>>58079727 +Different weapons, different purposes. A molotov is for spreading fire, so damage over time. A pipe bomb is for a quick boom. +--- 58080361 +>>58076316 (OP) +You can't just put a string on it and expect it to explode, you need to make a proper fuse that delivers ignition to the core so it can explode outwards, otherwise it will ignite on the end where the fuse enters and turn into a bottle rocket +--- 58080363 +>>58076971 +TNT is funny stuff. Yellow crystals that melt much like candle wax and solidify like a good hard wax. Stuff crumbles though if you don't cast it correctly. +--- 58080430 +>>58080286 +Does this count? +--- 58080436 +>>58080430 +Based TM 31-210 enjoyer +--- 58080561 +>>58076316 (OP) +you should not fucking try that shit, I've seen a couple videos of kids making them for fun and they blew their god damn hands off. +I know it's tempting but maybe you should just not fuck with pipe bombs, play with something simpler like molotovs, throwing them at bricks or something. +--- 58080569 +>>58077008 +>alarm clock +is that where ahmed the clock master went? +--- 58080592 +>>58078912 +they used whatever their glow in the dark handler provided them +--- 58080611 +>>58080592 +I don't think that every arab terrorist attack was a glow op +9/11 was definately mossad +but the boston bombing was probably real. +--- 58080971 +>>58076316 (OP) +Meh, there're easier ways to make a bomb, just scrape a vatnig off the floor and ask them! +--- 58081028 +>>58076826 +Dumbfuck niggermutts will actually think of 1001 ways to kill their rent free tresspassers before investing in a fucking brick and mortar wall. +--- 58081039 +>>58076852 +Congrats on passing the "common sense" test. Evidently you're one of the few on this board. +--- 58081041 +>>58080611 +The same week some shlomos in New York were arrested with pipe bombs. If only you knew how psychopathic das juden are. +--- 58081124 +>>58079336 +they got scared and backed down on a lot of things afterwards. +people don't talk about it much, even on here, but the scary truth is that bombing their kids worked. +Its a fucked up truth I don't want to think about, but its what happened. +--- 58081142 +>>58078544 +the deaths lay at the hands of the niggers who refused their chance to nap him in town in favor of putting on a circus to look cool for reporters and ask for more funding. +--- 58081223 +>>58076316 (OP) +Better with a charge core and shrapnel lined. + +There are household ingredients that make high exlosives. Nobody actually does it because modern men are bitches. +--- 58081313 +>>58081041 +that's bullshit but i believe it +--- 58081437 +>>58080430 +>Formula is by volume, not by weight +this is fucking retarded. If you don't know what mesh you're measuring from you can be off, 1 cup of finely milled kno3 is going to have more material than 1 cup of granulated kno3. +75/15/10 by weight. +>Alcohol +>CIA meathod +Just use a fucking ball mill. This shit is very inefficient and dirty. You stick your three ingredients in the mill with non sparking lead media (antimony hardened for extra points) and let it run for a couple hours. Remove the mill dust, put it in a bowl and wet it with water until it's no longer dusty. You want to be able to form it into a putty ball with your hands. If it drips water when you squeeze it it's too wet. Grind the ball through a coarse mesh screen to get your granules. +--- 58081498 +>>58076316 (OP) +be sure to use at least pistol powder, not rifle +--- 58081622 +>>58076960 +If they fall into a spike pit you just shovel some dirt over them and plant a tree. diff --git a/k/58076354.txt b/k/58076354.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8fac8669cffa8e5f85207c1f6f4b54009291743c --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58076354.txt @@ -0,0 +1,24 @@ +----- +--- 58076354 +The director of the Research & Development Establishment of India's DRDO was arrested today for being honeypotted by Pakistani intelligence. He was in charge of projects related to SAMs, ICBMs, cruise missiles, and ASATs. +--- 58076385 +>>58076354 (OP) +this mf went "show bob open vegana" +every single time. +--- 58077641 +>>58076354 (OP) +That's Xi in a wig +--- 58079152 +LOL threw it all away for some hairy stinking shitskin cunt +--- 58079509 +>>58076354 (OP) +Soft power and espionage between India and Pakistan is good to see. Much better than troop buildups. +--- 58079524 +>>58079509 +You can channel tension like that into productive projects, like the Space Race. +--- 58079759 +>> 58076354 (OP) (You) (Faggot) +--- 58081401 +>>58079524 +Or building toilets and plumbing. +I bet a quarter of toilets in India were built just because of comments mocking them online. diff --git a/k/58076422.txt b/k/58076422.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..30b45810d17e094072148241c4db4ddda05bbf5a --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58076422.txt @@ -0,0 +1,484 @@ +----- +--- 58076422 +Hiroshima bombing was only 3 miles. Was it really that big of a deal? +--- 58076436 +>single bomb able to flatten 3 square miles +>nbd +--- 58076535 +>>58076422 (OP) +>Was it really that big of a deal? +imagine being the railyards yardmaster and coming back to a radioactive bombsite where all the trains and rail cars used to be +--- 58076560 +>>58076422 (OP) +Yes and no. +Small nukes are mostly useless against anything that isn't a city/base. But they're a incomparable force multiplier. +--- 58076569 +>>58076560 +an* +force multiplier for bombers* +--- 58076575 +>>58076422 (OP) +No, the Japanese deserved much bigger bombs. +--- 58076603 +If nukes are so bad, why didn't Japan just intercept the bombers? +--- 58076629 +>>58076422 (OP) +Nuke is basically a big firebomb. Most of Japanese buildings at the time were wooden. And yknow, wood burns way better than concrete. Secondary fires were the main killer, not the physical blast nor the initial radiation burst. +--- 58076634 +>>58076422 (OP) +>Was it really that big of a deal? +Given the results, it was just another day in the campaign of terror fire bombings against jap cities. The same was done many times before also in Germany. Military speaking, it was more of a logistics improvement, as one plane/missile could do what before it was a matter of hundreds. +BUT the demonization of nukes served the purposes of all sides during the Cold War: +>Japan got to play the victim +>the US became a feared superpower with a big stick +>the USSR got to play the propaganda angle of the evil americans for bleeding heart lefties while trying to match the US in the arms race (they were always behind in this) +So, even without the nuclear winter boogieman, the taboo about nukes has served everybody well. It still keeps MAD real and has become ironically the cause of WW3 never happening. +--- 58076688 +Seems like it was. +--- 58076701 +Especially when the only buildings that were left standing were the few that were modern enough to be built out of reinforced concrete. +--- 58076753 +>>58076422 (OP) +Google "Robert McNamara's The Fog of War" documentary. Here is the clip, really puts into perspective just how little of a deal the atomic bomb was. If anything Japan surrendered so it would fall only to the Americans and not the USSR. Else Japan could've been divided like Korea had Stalin made it beyond Manchukuo. We firebombed Japan to the ground long before the nukes. It's a mobile link because I'm on the shitter. Just remove the m. + +https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SfPwR00HXM0 [Embed] +--- 58076777 +>>58076422 (OP) +The original ATOM bomb is overrated fr fr no bussin. 200-250 B-29 would have created more destruction and death. The boosted fission and thermos are the real kings NO CAP +--- 58076919 +>>58076634 +a few dead japs (they're horrible people anyway) to achieve world peace forever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever +was a pretty good deal overall (proxy meme wars don't count!!) +--- 58076937 +That's just a tactical nuke, it doesn't count. +--- 58077094 +>>58076422 (OP) +Yes, it was a nothingburger +--- 58077098 +>>58076919 +Peace as long as you're not from a third world shit hole +--- 58077107 +>>58077098 +>(proxy meme wars don't count!!) +--- 58077124 +>>58076422 (OP) +It was literally the first 2 atomic bombs ever developed. They were practically firecrackers to what nukes are now a days. +--- 58077183 +>>58076422 (OP) +>Hiroshima bombing was only 3 miles. Was it really that big of a deal? +Yes, because the issue was not the explosion but the firestorm that occured after. You need to remember that most buildings there were made out of wood, and the nuke created a hot air spot that caused winds to spin around the entire city, spreading the fire around the entire thing. +While damage made directly by the explosion wasn't that big, the folowup enviroment turned everything to ash. +--- 58077414 +>>58076753 +Then, why did they drop the bombs? An experiment? +--- 58077472 +>>58076701 + +These bombings were the only recorded use of nuclear weapons in war, it tells us a lot about how someone could survive a nuclear attack. + +You mention the concrete structures, which are effectively made out of stone, some re-enforced with rebar. You would be safe in a rural area, or under the cover of the Earth. + +But the fallout would still be carried by the wind, and would affect the weather and water and soil as well. Some sort of tunnels or caves could provide large scale protection from nuclear attack. + +However, in the capital city, bunkers would be targeted. Can any nuclear bunker we have today truly survive tens or hundreds of direct nuclear strikes? Wouldn't it be better to be located in an area that would not be targeted at all, let alone trying to protect yourself from the blast? + +That's more than you can ask of civilians though. + +Because this was a war crime and civilian attack. + +All those civilians did not need to die, but the president wanted to use their wunderwaffen. +--- 58077495 +>>58077472 + +For a while, we had this notion of "peaceful nuclear explosions" + +That we could use nukes like TNT to clear out land and dig holes, as the bombs were tested and created massive craters. +--- 58077507 +>>58076422 (OP) +Hiroshima, like most cities in Japan, had buildings made entirely of bamboo wood, paper, and dry thatch. New York is a city made of brick, concrete, and steel. +Needless to say, one of those suffers much worse from a fireball and pressure blast. +--- 58077520 +>>58076688 +did anyone inside of those still standing buildings survive? +--- 58077524 +>>58077472 +Then again the Japanese would have gladly done the same to us and not once question the moral dilemma. And that's why it needed to be done. +--- 58077537 +>>58077414 +A warning to the Soviet Union to fuck off. Japan was America's prize not the commie's +--- 58077545 +>>58077524 +People don't realize, don't want to face the fact of how bestial were the Nips. I don't know why idiots think they were some peaceful rice farmers in sandals when in reality they made the Nazis feel uncomfortable. +--- 58077587 +If there is a double-linebreak after a post tag, the post is not worth reading. +--- 58077661 +>>58077472 + +I always find it funny when we talk about the bombs as war crimes when what we'd been doing prior to that with fleets of B-29s and incendiaries was far, far worse in terms of raw human suffering. I'm prepared to concede they were all crimes against humanity. That generation felt it justified. They were at the tail end of an interminable nightmare and it beat the hell out of having to invade. + +By 1945 we knew about Bataan and what the Japanese had done to the Philipino civilians, nevermind what we already knew about their conduct in China. We'd seen kamikazes and mass civilian suicides (and murders by army officers!) on Okinawa and Iwo Jima. + +My grandfather, who served in the Pacific and to his dying day would refer to anything that broke as "cheap Japanese junk" despite owning a Honda, remarked on this with something to the effect of "I liked every Japanese person I ever met after August 1945. Before that, though, all we saw was them beheading civilians and beating prisoners and savage, suicidal combat. I don't think there was an American west of Los Angeles who spared a thought for the Japanese civilian in 1945." +--- 58077941 +I think today's Jap society is enough punishment to them. +--- 58077961 +Now I have become OP the destroyer of threads +--- 58078252 +>>58077661 +>I liked every Japanese person I ever met after August 1945. Before that, though, all we saw was them beheading civilians and beating prisoners and savage, suicidal combat +They just need a correction. +--- 58078293 +>>58076701 +>LE FIRE... BURNS... PAPER HOUSES? + +>>58077472 +the structural integrity of concrete doesn't even come close to stone +--- 58078320 +>>58077472 +Nuclear weapons have changed dramatically since 1945 + +IIRC little boy and fatman were only 17-20kt, a modern MIRV’d missile carries 4-5 warheads at 400-700kt EACH, and they all impact a city in overlapping blast patterns + +For reference, the Beirut blast was calculated at roughly .5kt +--- 58078366 +Yeah we dropped em cuz we wanted to send the soviets a message. + +iirc we knew they were building their own so we dropped ours first to show we did it before them and unless they already had nukes they were fucked. + +Alao i am sure as hell betting the military would be pissed if they spent all that money and didnt get to use it at least once. + +It was basically a we already spent the money on it so lets use a couple....and also as a power flexing move in the geopolitical space. +--- 58078498 +>American's level entire Japanese City with one bomb +>Guy from Colorado does all the urban planning for the reconstruction + +Honestly Hiroshima was the nicest city I went to in all of Japan since there was actually some fucking space. It's probably the one place I could have seen myself living. +--- 58078509 +>>58077777 → +--- 58078676 +>>58076753 +>If anything Japan surrendered so it would fall only to the Americans and not the USSR. +How would the USSR launch a seaborne invasion of Japan? D-Day was a multinational effort, the Soviets never pulled off anything similar. And this is on the other side of the USSR. +--- 58078792 +>>58076422 (OP) +I really should save this as copypasta for the next time this subject comes up. Or finish my essay on it and toss it on pastebin with the nu/ke primer. + +I'll start by recommending a video: MHV's interview with D. M. Giangreco. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4uDfg38gyk [Embed] + +Here's the basic situation: Japanese leadership didn't care one bit about Japanese lives; as far as they were concerned, all civilians could just go and die for the dynasty at their command. But... internal police had produced reports by mid-'45 that if half the population of the Home Islands (40 million out of 80) died, there was a non-zero chance that enough of the survivors would rebel that they would be strong enough to overthrow the government, and *that* was not acceptable. Some generals, of course, were convinced that they could fight to the last civilian. + +The strategic plan at that point was to kill a million GIs, wounding several million more in the process. They still believed that Americans were "weak", and would never be willing to sacrifice half their population like Japan could. A million dead GIs, the thinking went, and the American public would demand that the US negotiate, at which point Japan would get most of what it wanted simply by threatening to continue the war. Honestly, dragging out a conflict and inflicting American casualties has worked pretty well against the US ever since; Japan just completely misunderstood how angry they'd made the US public. + +Japan guessed (correctly) when and where the invasion would begin, because they'd seen a dozen previous operations and could read a map. They had heavily-reinforced the correct areas, and had plans to launch an onslaught of kamikazes of all types, plus forcing women and children into suicidal attacks. The firebombings, submarine warfare, and aerial mining campaigns were bad, not enough to make them blink. US propaganda claimed that they had a devastating new weapon, but the US claimed lots of stuff. +--- 58078886 +>>58078792 +And then Hiroshima blew up. A single bomber did that, rather than a thousand. That's a problem, right? + +Well, not so much. Japan, it turned out, had possibly the second-best nuclear program on the planet. By analyzing the damage and taking samples, scientists were able to not just determine the strength of the Bomb, but to determine the amount of HEU it had used and correctly(!) estimate that the US would only be able to produce enough HEU for ~2 Bombs a year. + +Not a problem. That's far less than the firebombings were doing. Japan could hold out easily until the expected invasion, at which point they'd begin the killing in earnest and win the war at the peace talks. Stay the course. + +And then Nagasaki blew up. Problem? Problem! That's about 6 months too soon. Worse, samples indicated that the US had figured out how to make a Bomb out of plutonium, which is much, *much* easier to produce in bulk than HEU. Nobody else had any clue how to do it. + +Suddenly, there was a very real chance that the American claims that there were "hundreds" of Bombs ready to go didn't sound like a bluff; it could be real. And suddenly, there was a chance that Japan could lose 40 million people *before the first GI landed*. The government could be overthrown. The dynasty could be ended. + +Hirohito had a secret golden parachute from the US, despite the official claims of "Unconditional Surrender". You see, no IJA unit had *ever* surrendered en masse. It was believed (probably correctly) that the *only* man on the planet who could get them to stand down was the Emperor. So he was secretly offered a guarantee that the dynasty would continue--possibly even with him leading it--if he would issue that order. And, looking at possibly being the Emperor who *lost* the dynasty forever, Hirohito *blinked*. + +It was a partial bluff, but he didn't know that. There was a third Bomb almost ready, and after that, one could be made every 10 days or so. But the bluff worked. +--- 58078943 +>>58078792 +>>58078886 +Interesting. If Japan hadn't bent the knee after Nagasaki where was the next place likely to be targeted? +--- 58078947 +>>58078886 +Note that the Japanese surrenders in Manchuria happened *after* Hirohito threw in the towel. And don't forget that he almost got overthrown in a coup and placed under house arrest by generals who were convinced that they could *make* the Japanese people fight to the last drop of blood (ironically, while the coup never had much chance of succeeding, it was stopped in part by a nearby bombing raid that put the sentries on full alert). Japan had a plan to deal with the USSR, by luring them in, and then counterattacking from northern Korea and cutting off their supply lines. Would it have worked any better than trying to kill a million GIs? Hard to say. But, it's not hard at all to say that it was a combination of factors that convinced Hirohito to stab his generals in the back, or that the second Bomb was his breaking point. + +I always wondered if he ever found out just how few Bombs the US had, and if he ever second-guessed himself over that. +--- 58078957 +>>58078943 +The plan was to hold the next three nukes in reserve and drop them at the same time as the first amphibious landings, to fuck up the defenders. +--- 58079116 +>>58078943 +Probably Kokura, which was *supposed* to be the second target, but which was obscured by smoke, leading to a switch to Nagasaki as the backup target. +--- 58079133 +>>58076422 (OP) +Hiroshima was most wood buildings that got knocked over by the shockwave them set on fire. By contrast Nagasaki was a modern city that the bomb kinda missed and hit the outside and was significantly less damaged in the process. +--- 58079149 +>>58076919 +Considering the level of devastation inflicted when major powers go at it, yeah I'd say it's a pretty big step up that we've just been reduced to proxy wars. +--- 58079171 +>>58077472 +Thankfully nuclear weapons don't produce that much fallout. A nuclear plant meltdown is a thousand times worse all things considered. +--- 58079211 +>>58078957 +That was MacArthur's plan; it's hard to say which Bombs he would have gotten, or how many, because of all the different chains of command involved. + +Trent Telenko, among others, has suggested that MacArthur's staff (which included some real EW geniuses) had successfully located the major field HQs for the defense, and that the plan was to spread the Bombs out across them, leaving the defenders completely uncoordinated. It's hard to play alt-hist with this, because so many factors were lost to history or never known (MacArthur's staff took most of their secrets to their graves). +--- 58079213 +>>58077520 +Probably. About a third of the city died from it iirc so if 2/3rd survived, some must've been in those buildings. +--- 58079224 +Imagine a world where we actually followed through on Edward Teller's plans for the 10 gigaton bomb +--- 58079234 +>>58076422 (OP) +It was atomic not nuclear +--- 58079245 +>>58079171 +That depends. Airbursts like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, yes, are "clean". There is almost no neutron activation, which means that the only fallout is incompletely-burned Bomb fuel, and that gets vaporized and hurled into the stratosphere. By the time it comes down, it's passed through several half-lives and gotten scattered to harmless concentrations. + +Groundbursts, on the other hand, produce extra radioactive material through neutron activation, and it gets clumped up with dirt particles, which causes it to fall out of the atmosphere at times and concentrations where and when it's still dangerous for a couple of weeks. +--- 58079258 +>>58078947 +>Japan had a plan to deal with the USSR, by luring them in, and then counterattacking from northern Korea and cutting off their supply lines. + +Source? And maybe they had some plan, but there's realistically no fucking chance they could have pulled it off. the Kwantung army was in absolute shambles, severely outnumbered, basically no heavy equipment. Pure fantasy to suggest they could miraculously defend Korea and Manchuria +--- 58079283 +The Japs still seething about the nukes will never not be funny to me. How the fuck do you start a war, commit countless atrocities, and then bitch and whine as the dindu nuffin victim when you get your shit slapped?. +--- 58079284 +>>58079224 +Honestly, it doesn't make much sense. A 3-stage device can easily produce an order of magnitude or two more than a single-stage device. But once you introduce fusion, there's really nothing more powerful than that other than antimatter (which is outside of the scope of this discussion). So, you can't get from megatons to gigatons just by changing the technology. Just like the Russians found out with Tsar Bomba, you have to add more Bomb fuel, and that rapidly becomes an inefficient use of resources (hence why they only fueled TB to 50MT instead of the planned 100MT). + +Being more accurate was the way to solve the conundrum. Hence, US warheads start *shrinking* in the '70s and '80s, allowing more Bombs to be made with the same amount of fuel. +--- 58079294 +>>58079258 +The source for that claim is actually the video I linked to. It was the first that I'd really heard of it, but Giangreco seems to have done his research on the subject. +--- 58079297 +>>58079245 +True, but a couple weeks is still nowhere near as long as what meltdowns do +--- 58079309 +>>58079284 +>Honestly, it doesn't make much sense. +He wanted a bigger boom, he didn't have reasoning beyond that. Also the man was one of the greatest scientific mindsets in nuclear weapons, if he couldn't figure it out no one could. It was rejected because the US, according to the report, "didn't need a weapon capable of setting the entire British Isles on fire" +--- 58079328 +>>58076422 (OP) +>7.1 square miles of city erased +>in the time it takes to ignite a flash bulb +Could (You) please go be superretarded somewhere else? /pol/ is currently missing a village idiot and would like to offer (You) the job. +--- 58079329 +>>58079283 +They really don't care that much anymore. If you actually ask the Japanese, even the ones who lived through the war, most of them by the end were more angry at their own government than they were at the Americans because the Japanese government was the whole reason the Americans bombed them in the first place. I was listening to an interview on NPR a couple years back with a Japanese author from Nagasaki who was born 9 years after and she kept pressing him on the whole traumatic aspect for his family and he said for the most part, the Japanese people were just glad the war was over and that it was just one big bomb after they had already been bombed to hell and back already. People who survived the bomb for the most part didn't talk about it after except in private to family members, they tried to put it behind them. He said that if you didn't have family members randomly come down with leukemia, you never would've known it happened because Nagasaki was completely rebuilt within 2 years and people chose not to discuss it. + +Oh also, he found humor in the fact that his mother never directly experienced the bomb and its aftereffects since it was dropped inaccurately and the city was mainly just hit by the shockwave, so she got smacked in the head by a roof tile and her family put her to bed to recover while they went out to burn bodies, and by the time she woke up they already came back home. +--- 58079332 +>>58076603 +out of gas +--- 58079335 +>>58076422 (OP) +Pretty good during that meta as a flat damage dump but the cooldown was kinda long. Today's build focuses more on ability haste and multi-target because the DPS gains are just so much more efficient. +--- 58079357 +>>58079329 +I will say though, there are 2 groups who do still seethe and it's the communists and the ultranationalists, and they both seethe for the same reason: it's an excuse to bitch about America. +--- 58079359 +>>58079116 +I thought it was supposed to be Osaka but Dulles had taken his honeymoon there and his wife "couldn't bear to see such a beautiful city destroyed" +--- 58079434 +>>58079359 +You're thinking of Kyoto, and it was spared from ALL bombings as a result, it wasn't even firebombed +--- 58079437 +>>58077495 +It's pretty crazy. I've read a bunch of old newspapers and magazines (like Popular Science and Popular Mechanics) from the Olden Days. It's pretty common to run across articles that describe, in all seriousness, the use of atomic bombs to dredge out &/or expand the Panama Canal, or crumble entire mountains into gravel to feed into smelters, or excavate reservoirs for municipal water supplies, or ... just a number of massive engineering projects. + +Simpletons today vaguely recall echoes of that era with no understanding at all of why it was all so retarded and then come up with big "brane" genius ideas like blowing up a hurricane with nukes. It's literally nuclear-powered fuddlore bouncing around in empty, demented skulls. Hollywood has done us no favors with their idiotic depictions of how atomic weapons and large explosions work. + +Some people even believe that you can detonate a nuke underwater and have a half-kilometer tall tsunami wash over Ireland and continue to the UK and drown everyone in Britain. Some of those morons are in charge of countries with massive nuclear weapons arsenals. Real fucking fun timeline we live on. +--- 58079438 +>>58079297 +Depends on the meltdown. Chernobyl is what you get when godless commies design a reactor (seriously, look up the environmental destruction wreaked by the USSR sometime). TMI, on the other hand, melted down within its containment vessel without a fuss and they filled it up with concrete. One detector *might* have caught a whiff of radiation one time. That's it. + +It's possible to make reactors safe; in fact, we've had incredibly-safe reactor designs for 50 years now, and the next-gen stuff is largely designed to be almost impossible to mess up even if you try to sabotage them. It's not the boogeyman that the China Syndrome crowd has tried to make it into. +--- 58079452 +>>58079328 +Honestly, it's a valid question, given the effectiveness of the firebombings and aerial mining campaign over the previous few months. +--- 58079458 +>>58076753 +The Soviets were less enthusiastic about invading the Japanese homeland than we were. +--- 58079464 +>>58079283 +>How the fuck do you start a war, commit countless atrocities, and then bitch and whine as the dindu nuffin victim when you get your shit slapped? +Have you ever heard of vatniggers? They listen to Japs whining and say "Hold my krokodil." +--- 58079500 +>>58079309 +>we get the gay timeline where the bombs get smaller but more accurate instead of the timeline where the bombs get bigger and more accurate. +--- 58079615 +>>58079434 +Kyoto, that's right. +I knew I was forgetting parts but I couldn't remember which parts. +--- 58079736 +>>58079438 +>Chernobyl is what you get when godless commies design a reactor +I thought it was more that they purposely turned off all the safeties for a test +--- 58079780 +>>58079149 +Define 'proxy war'. Do you mean countries/parties fighting each other as proxies of different world powers, or a world power fighting another country that's a proxy of another? The Russia-Ukraine war could be seen as the latter, though it's hard to tell where an assisted resistance ends and a proxy conflict begins (e.g. were the Free French proxies of the Allies against Nazi Germany during WW2?). +--- 58079788 +>>58077472 +>Because this was a war crime and civilian attack. +>All those civilians did not need to die, but the president wanted to use their wunderwaffen. +Why would you strike the city housing Second Army Command + the Japanese Marines, and the city housing nearly 2/3rds of imperial Japan's military industry? Truly heinous +Any civilian deaths are tragic, even those supporting a militant belligerent regime, but the only people worth crying over are their Korean slaves who were caught in the blast (though the Japanese would have likely executed them en masse anyway if the US took over the island chain slowly by traditional means) +--- 58079806 +Why Imperial Japan government was such ridículous, anime levels of evil +--- 58079818 +>>58079500 +But if overall bomb production increased because of this change, then the potential for devastation increased as well as you could just hit more targets with more bombs instead of relying on one big boom to do everything. +--- 58079828 +>>58079780 +Let's just say both because either one is still preferrable to a direct war between major powers +--- 58079861 +>>58079806 +This article provides a basic explanation for Imperial Japan's savagery. In summary: political extremism rooted in bushido, nationalism, and Emperor-worship, with a healthy dose of racism and hatred/envy of the West. + +https://www.historynet.com/a-culture-of-cruelty/ +--- 58079893 +>>58079828 +True. But assuming neither side wishes to use nuclear weapons, a war between world powers might actually incur less human cost in some cases. For instance, if the US directly intervened in Ukraine and successfully called Russia's nuclear bluff, we'd have peace by now instead of an interminable meatgrinder and missiles lobbed into supermarkets. +--- 58079911 +>>58077661 +nukes put an end to all out war like those up to WW2. the big superpowers are to scared to go beyond proxy wars in third-world shitholes. traditional war that was little more than a meatgrinder of young men for both sides isn't really a thing anymore for a reason, and that's nukes. +--- 58079939 +>>58079861 +Those cartoons from the 40s decried as racists were quite acurate about that Nip character. +--- 58079950 +>>58079911 +Look at the Donbass. +--- 58079993 +>>58079939 +The problem with that view is that Imperial Japan was like no other period in Japanese history, especially compared to the earlier Shogunate and modern Japan. Yes, the militaristic and imperialist tendencies were always there, but it took the specific (and unfortunate) circumstances of the 20th century to refine them into that kind of inhuman tyranny. +--- 58080011 +>>58079911 +Apparently Putin didn't get the memo. +--- 58080016 +>>58079939 +meanwhile, very racist propaganda (Chinese) +>United China Relief was the largest humanitarian effort in the United States to aid the Chinese people up to that time. The organization, which was renamed United Service to China (USC) after the Second World War, raised over US$50 million in donations over ten years. +it's almost like it had less to do with whether they were Asian and more to do with ideals and conflicts of nationalism +--- 58080048 +>>58080016 +One more for the road, never forget what commies took from us all +--- 58080077 +>>58080048 +A Western friendly China, the stuff of dreams. I always remember Mao thanked the japs for making him to take over China. A hardcore psycho congratulates another bunch of hardcore psycho. +--- 58080207 +>>58076603 +Japan could track incoming b29 flights, but not adequately identify their intent +so had they jumped at every chance they may have intercepted Meteorological or path finding flights +>>58079332 +also out of metals and other resources, keeping a turbocharged radial engine going is not easy even for the American forces +--- 58080223 +>>58077520 +--- 58080248 +>>58079329 + +I've lived in Japan for 20 years. + +A lot of Japanese civilians are still pissed about the end of the war and its aftermath. This includes the nukes. They are pissed at their incompetent leaders for using them as pawns (as you mentioned), but they are also pissed at being used as guinea pigs by the Americans, and they are EXTREMELY pissed at the fact that the descendants of the "nuclear bomb victims" (被爆者) also show some evidence of lingering congenital medical issues. + +There is also resentment at the fact that other nations have continued to build more nukes, and that America continues its defacto military occupation of Japan, and that American soldiers keep committing crime in Japan. + +This has fed into Japan's victim mentality, and people who feel victimized remain angry forever. +--- 58080268 +>>58076422 (OP) +Worse than the holocaust +America needs to pay reparations +--- 58080280 +>>58080248 +I also live in Japan +All American military men in Japan should be castrated and kept on base with no time outside base, for the good of the Japanese people. +Fuckers do nothing except rape kids and kill innocent people +--- 58080283 +>>58080248 +The Japanese are free to eject the US and rearm. No one can stop them. Their predecessors were free to surrender but chose getting nuked. Bit of an own goal. +--- 58080299 +>America write's Japan's constitution +>They make it like their own +>They leave out the right to bear arms part because this time around THEY are the tyrannical overlords who need overthrowing +Hypocrites +--- 58080314 +>>58080283 + +Dumb. You, individually, have absolutely no control of what your idiotic government does. You have NO CONTROL. Stupid, corrupt old men have control, and all you have the privilege of dying in nuclear hellfire if your retarded political leaders fuck up badly enough. +--- 58080333 +Which is worse, serb victim complex or nip victim complex? +--- 58080346 +>>58080280 +Sorry m8, best I can do is a 67 IQ black nigger who can’t read and a 4’7” cross-eyed spic who harasses women incessantly +--- 58080434 +>>58080333 +American victim complex. +After 9/11 they literally turned the entire western world into a police state, and they fucking never shut up about how they were wronged +How many people died? Like 5000? +That's not even 1/10 of the people who died by the nukes +--- 58080488 +>>58080314 +And yet here you are, posting on a Mongolian basket weaving forum. If you really cared, you'd do something about it. +--- 58080512 +>>58077098 +Nobody cares about those. Poor brown people have always fought over owning more land and more poor brown people +--- 58080871 +>>58080488 + +Dumb. +--- 58080964 +>>58080871 +Okay this is the dumbest nigger brained argument on here I've seen in a while. +Nobody fucking cares +Post gun +--- 58081261 +>>58076436 +how would a bomb do square damage? +shouldn't it be circular mile? +--- 58081309 +>>58081261 +rope trick +>Rope trick is the term given by physicist John Malik to the curious lines and spikes which emanate from the fireball of certain nuclear explosions just after detonation. +--- 58081335 +>>58080964 + +>Me: I live in Japan +>Twink-armed dysgenic: POST GUN + +dumb +--- 58081343 +>>58081335 +You are a retarded, communist, no-guns faggot. Uppercut yourself and leave /k/. +--- 58081344 +>>58076603 +With the little air defense capability that they had, they were focused on trying to beat back large flights of B-29s. +A lone bomber flying over an area was considered a waste of resources to try and pursue. What they didn't know is that the ordinance it was carrying was far from conventional. +--- 58081349 +>>58078886 +I read on Salo Forum a while back that the Japanese nuclear program was based partially around the Chosin Reservoir, and there was some spooky shit going on with the United States trying to Ransack it/blow it up before the Chinese communists got to it, and that the North Korean nuclear program was based in no small part in the scraps they still had after the Korean War. +--- 58081384 +>>58081343 + +Get your nasty arm hair caught in a zipper Mister Skeletal. +--- 58081386 +>>58079893 +Or you know, we'd have the same number of casualities inflictted within a day +--- 58081406 +>>58080299 +They amended that like 10 minutes later when they realized Japan needed SOME kind of military to hold out in the event of Soviet invasion until the US arrived. +--- 58081425 +>>58077472 +>All those civilians did not need to die, but the president wanted to use their wunderwaffen. +lmao even, invasion of jaoan would be a total hell +they still use ww2 era purple heart intended for invasion of japan until 2008 +--- 58081428 +>>58080248 +>There is also resentment at the fact that other nations have continued to build more nukes +Because they're naieve. For all we can say about how nukes didn't stop smaller wars from happening, name a country that has nukes that's been invaded since nukes came into the picture, aside from I guess Israel who pretends they don't have nukes when everyone knows they does. We wouldn't have the Ukraine conflict right now if Ukraine still had its nuclear arsenal. Nuclear weapons if nothing else have shown to be a deterrent in keeping others from invading you. +--- 58081471 +>>58080248 +>I've lived in Japan for 20 years. +Proof? +>A lot of Japanese civilians are still pissed about the end of the war and its aftermath. +Proof? +>There is also resentment at the fact that other nations have continued to build more nukes +Why is this relevant? +>America continues its defacto military occupation of Japan +Doesn't look like an occupation to me. +>This has fed into Japan's victim mentality +Certainly fed into yours. +--- 58081480 +>>58076422 (OP) +Two towers wasn't a big deal either diff --git a/k/58076497.txt b/k/58076497.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c1bebe10df7b29abecc5f872a556085d7ed1a3d1 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58076497.txt @@ -0,0 +1,268 @@ +----- +--- 58076497 +Are there any other Americans or Westerners fighting for Russia? + +Or is it just Texas? +--- 58076661 +There's a weird very minor population of people in the US that are sure Russia is the good guys and are totally fighting Ukraine to for a good reason. +--- 58076669 +>>58076497 (OP) +>the Lenin bust +puro kino, I wish more communists would enlist +--- 58076682 +its a shame he died, he could have provided us with so much content +--- 58076692 +>>58076497 (OP) +Yes, me John McEnroe from Texas Oblast is ready to mobilize into the eastern front for special military operations +--- 58076706 +>>58076497 (OP) +I've seen italians, germans, french (most have disbanded after 2015), hungarians and spaniards too +--- 58076711 +>>58076497 (OP) +I remember some pastafag getting killed fighting for the DPR not too long ago. It was minor news here. +t. pastafag +--- 58076717 +>>58076497 (OP) +Swedes and Norwegians has been fighting on the side of Donbass. +--- 58076739 +Just weird honestly, I guess people have volunteered for both sides of the war. + +I am just living in the USA and no one is invading the USA thankfully. + +Putin conscripts people into this brother war. + +The US and FBI push it online, on /k/ too. + +The West doesn't need this zionist war. + +Christians killing Christians. + +It's not Christians in control. + +Greed and lies started this war. +--- 58076750 +>>58076669 + +Your post ID is appropriate + +Russian communists genocided Christians + +The whole thing collapsed in the 1990s +--- 58076760 +>>58076497 (OP) +>Or is it just Texas? + +Texas isn't just one person, dipshit. I'm a Texan and I give zero fucks about either side of the war. +--- 58076769 +>>58076717 +Is there any cultural reason for that? Ive heard of several retired military Swedes in Wagner.. whats the end goal? +--- 58076778 +>>58076769 +a lot of tankies ended up in the Donbass since 2014, brainwashed by anti NATO/capitalism propaganda. +Utter retards and useful idiots. +--- 58076787 +>>58076739 +>The West doesn't need this zionist war. + +Nigga we don't need it but its hella convenient that gopnik retards are fighting eachother to death and all we have to do is give shitty stockpiles of weapons to ukraine to get free russian deaths +--- 58076831 +>>58076739 +Russia can leave whenever it wants +--- 58076862 +>>58076760 +p sure Texas is the nickname of picrel, real name Russell Bentley +>>58076682 +source on death? +--- 58076893 +>>58076661 +>very minor population + +Not something I've ever heard Republicans called. +--- 58076986 +>>58076682 +no shit, did this fat pig really flip with hooves up towards the sky? +--- 58077212 +>>58076497 (OP) +I wish they didn't nuke his channel, it was an interesting window into the other side. old commie larper living the dream in a meme republic, you could see his weight gain though the years. + +has there been any indication that this guy is still alive? +--- 58077320 +>>58076760 +Theres one notable American fighting for Russia named Texas. +:) +--- 58077322 +https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1568538910103322624 + +the last evidence I can find of him being alive is from sep 10 +--- 58077338 +>>58076682 +>>58076986 +>>58076862 + +He’s alive. He has a telegram channel that is pretty findable. +--- 58077365 +>>58077338 + +https://t.me/s/TXDPR +This is his telegram +--- 58077366 +>>58076893 +That Texan slob is a tankie +--- 58077376 +>>58077338 +https://t.me/s/TXDPR +--- 58077388 +>>58076893 +>All republicans support russia! +Support for Ukraine is one of the few things both parties agree on, nigger. Spewing division on party lines is exactly what the ziggers want and you'll gladly give it to them to feel better about yourself. +--- 58077413 +>>58077388 +Fuck off conservacuck. Cutting all funding and weapons shipments isn't "supporting Ukraine" +--- 58077453 +>>58077413 +>Didn't even mention my affiliation. +>Denying russia the division they desperately seek. +>"STOP SUPPORTING RUSSIA, REEEEEEEEE" +Thanks for proving my fucking point, nigger. +--- 58077461 +>>58076893 +WTF are you talking about, the one thing republicans love more than anything is war, and democrats only love war when they are in charge. The two are in lock step with this shit and the only complaint is exactly how many billons do we give Ukraine. +--- 58077490 +>>58076497 (OP) +>still this fat +how does he do it? +--- 58077869 +>>58076497 (OP) +Is that fat commie faggot still around? If so, how? +--- 58077920 +>>58077388 +>>58077461 +These, I dont know about other red states, but here in Utah we are 100% on the side that fucks with Russia. Hell our state has like 10 state funded organizations to help with the immigration of Ukrainians +--- 58078023 +>>58076497 (OP) +Oh holy shit, the legendary John from Texas Oblast! +--- 58078061 +>>58077388 +>Spewing division on party lines is exactly what the ziggers want +You should try telling that to the GOP. +--- 58078102 +>>58078061 +How are these specimens any different from the democrats who publicly support white genocide or the murder of political enemies? Or are you so blinded from partisan campaigning? Those guys took the vatnig coolaid but if you dont think it applies to you too, you took the ccp chink coolaid +--- 58078222 +>>58076497 (OP) +all of you are fighting for russia if you aren't in country fighting for ukraine right now +--- 58078308 +>>58076893 +Haven’t watched his channel in ages but isn’t “Tibosaurus Rex” pro-Russian and at the same time inserting some biblical Old Testament reference? +--- 58078375 +is this hog still alive? +--- 58078488 +>>58078102 +>muh white genocide! +lol, lmao even. +--- 58078564 +>>58076661 +Half or more of the people i talk to think ukraine should get zero monetary help and are at least equally bad as russia. Only like the latest trenders, blm sign in yard, double masking, upper middle class white yuppie people, and fox news boomers support ukraine. 60% of people in america have no idea what ukraine is, could not write a 100-word essay relating to russia in any matter, or pick putin out of a line-up. +--- 58078660 +>>58078564 +40% of Americans can’t name the three core branches of our Federal government. + +Our population is retarded. +--- 58078771 +>>58078660 +>A bipedal ape evolved to hunt and gather on the savannah but which somehow manages to survive and function in a world filled with internal combustion egnines, electricity, and instant communication is retarded. +--- 58078801 +>>58076497 (OP) +I remember reading some article a little while back (think it was Vice) before the invasion about some American antifa guy who went to fight for the rebels in Ukraine. He summed up the conflict by saying it was “literally normal people versus Nazis.” That stood out to me. +--- 58078809 +>>58076769 +Commies. +--- 58078827 +>>58077388 +>Support for Ukraine is one of the few things both parties agree on +This. The loud grifters on both sides are pro-Russia for very different but equally gullible reasons though. +--- 58078842 +>>58076769 +I know a one finnish guy who joined DPR to escape a conviction from beating his wife. +--- 58078849 +>>58076497 (OP) +There was some euros and amerimutts fighting for meme republics at least before the russian invasion. No idea what happened to them after russians took directly over, but I suspect nothing good. +--- 58078884 +>>58078564 +My experience here in Canada has been strictly along racial lines. White people I talk to about it are pro-Ukraine and want to continue sending them stuff, and deeply dislike Russia. Non-White people I talk to aren't pro-Russia, but they don't want us helping Ukraine either. +--- 58078885 +>>58078308 +A majority of guntubers are pro-Russian if I recall but it's mostly because the GOP is for the most part pro-russian and guntubers probably don't really care about politics that much and just follow their party line because it's easier. +--- 58078902 +>>58078564 +>60% of people in america have no idea what ukraine is, could not write a 100-word essay relating to russia in any matter, or pick putin out of a line-up. +that just says a lot about how shitty american education system is +--- 58078944 +>>58076739 +>Christians killing Christians. +Russia is jewish. +--- 58078967 +>>58078885 +Despite that they keep their opinions super vague and dont outright express it to their large audience, sucking off Russia in private and super vague tweets vs garandthumbs public video takes of fuck commies and tyrants, he’s a paid shill that is afraid of what his audience would really think of his paid views. Time Pool and spic fuentes are a very comparable example to the gun tubers but since they actually have to make daily content, their pro russian shill views were toned down fast because their audiences which are largely conservatives hated it. +--- 58078975 +>>58076497 (OP) +The Texan cannot exist unless it makes everyone around it acknowledge that it exists. Without insistence, they revert to their base form, Mexican. +--- 58078993 +>>58078842 +Finns practically flocked to the traitor republics before 2022. I think it must have been something like ~20 fighting for Ukraine and 40 or so on the DPR side. I imagine the numbers have reversed since +--- 58079001 +>>58078944 +So is ukraine silly +--- 58079027 +>>58078993 +Finno Swedes are mentally ill inbred bumpkins, nothing new. +--- 58079103 +>>58078885 +Are you really going to screencap mrcrummy's YouTube persona to make a point?! Anon you should know better. +--- 58079270 +>>58076893 +>Bust of Lenin +>It was the Republicans! +Think you need to realize that Russia appeals to the fringes of either side anon +--- 58079271 +>>58076497 (OP) +Keyboard fighting? Yes +Bang bang bullet fighting? LMFAO no no not by a long shot. You would have to be suicidally retarded to buy a plane ticket over there to help the Soviet rape horde out. They'd probably assume you were a spy and send you directly to torture with no stops in between. +--- 58079370 +>>58077920 +Have you been called up for the “Soldier Boy” Nutnfancy project yet? +--- 58079432 +>>58076497 (OP) +Not fighting, but a war photographer that was on here before the war talked about his experiences. He talked about an old baba bushka that supported the rebel side, but her house was on the Ukrainian trench line. The ukrainians would bring food to her and she would hope that they would die in battle. He also got in to the rebel territories and had to have an escort that could bribe the patrolling rebels do not kill him. I wonder if he's still alive, because the last I heard he was living in a bombed out factory on the front. +--- 58079695 +>>58078061 +I bet you also think russia hacked the election too right? +--- 58081307 +>>58076497 (OP) +what a cunt +--- 58081340 +>>58079695 +Bet you think your piss stained brain is above being influenced by Russian drip feed subversion on shitholes like /pol/ hey? You fucking retard. Muh clucker tardson and muh putin and fucking trannies is it? You worthless dribbling excuse for a man. You've betrayed your nation, democracy and your flag and got down on your knees and gargled Russian sperm in your brain like a thirsty serb. Get off the internets. You are too stupid to be on them. Qanon and muh epik cibil wer? You stupid little spastic. Playing divide and conquer using us partisan politics for your vatnigger tard wrangers. +--- 58081502 +>58081340(You)'re a faggot + +Yep, you alone know the truth about the Republican party's secret plan to help Russia! By giving Ukraine billions of dollars in lethal aid (against the DNC's staunch objections) they planned to overburden Ukraine's military budget and cause their military to collapse! It was so well-hidden and subtle that only you and your fellow blueanon schizos on reddit managed to uncover the scheme! Heckin' based Dark Brandon was actually trying to protect ukraine by telling Russia it was free to make military incursions and withdrawing American forces. This Mother Jones schizograph will explain everything! +--- 58081600 +>>58078967 +>spic fuentes +>mainstream conservative +most of the larpers that follow him don't like all the gay stuff or backing a pedo he's been up to +--- 58081725 +So after this war is over all you faggots will be going back to r*ddit right? +--- 58081729 +>>58076497 (OP) +Russel Bentley came from a wealthy family that made a lot of money in an asphalt paving company which then lost much of its fortune. Went to prison for smuggling marijuana across the Mexican border and moving it to the Midwest. He was middle-aged and had no savings and moved to Donetsk. He put his money (or lack of it) where his mouth is, but I think that was a common thing early in the war after 2014 where a lot of the people actually fighting were middle-aged losers looking for a cause. + +He has promoted a Russian group called "Essence of Time," which is a weird / fringe neo-Soviet group wrapped up in some kinda metaphysical left-nationalist idea from a theater director named Sergei Kurginyan. + +https://youtu.be/TfyAlc3TUGs [Embed] +https://youtu.be/Y7paLlmpX0o [Embed] + +>The project subscribes to conception of uber-modernity (in Russian cвepхмoдepн, tr. sverkhmodern), not to be confused with post-modernity, and on this principle hopes to build a new historical project for Russia. The project conceives a role for Russia in moving the world out of the global crisis of capitalism, based on the country's experience of alternatives to capitalist modernity and so-called post-modernity. + +>The movement seeks to unite people with socialist and communist political views as well as those with patriotic and Orthodox Christian values, with the objective of creating a spiritual synthesis. One of the main aims of the movement is a revival of the Soviet Union on new principles, taking into account the mistakes of the past (the project is thus dubbed USSR 2.0). The movement envisions a new union state consisting of equal nations where the Russian nation plays the role of the state's core. The stated ultimate goal of the movement is to bring to life the best of communism's ideas, a state of being in society which provides for the awakening and development of the higher creative abilities of every human being. diff --git a/k/58076594.txt b/k/58076594.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..24b2a37968112850883525eddd6462e00b010c2d --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58076594.txt @@ -0,0 +1,227 @@ +----- +--- 58076594 +Why do Ukrainians ask NATO for F-16 and not for Gripens? Wouldn't Gripens be more suitable for that type of missions that Ukrainians want to accomplish and much easier to maintain? Just ask Sweden for a dozen or two and let the US send some of its F-16s to Sweden before SAAB makes new planes, no? +--- 58076648 +>>58076594 (OP) + +There are hundreds of surplus F-16s that are laying around with a giant supply of spare parts and commonality, as well as the chance to keep asking for gibs to the block 52+ or even V variants. + +The Ukranians no doubt use these, but they also are slavs so they do graft and theft. They can turn around and sell the donated parts on the penny and still make pure profit to other operators within the region, simply citing excess capacity. + +The Grippen does not have the logistical footprint, upgrade path, or availability of raw surplus. +--- 58076654 +Tempo +--- 58076678 +>>58076594 (OP) +Romania and Poland operate F-16s, so they have neighbouring countries running the necessary infrastructure to maintain and support their operations. That's what truly matters. +--- 58076680 +>>58076594 (OP) +They asked, Sweden said no. There's barely any Gripens. + +Ukraine would have to get in line with the F-16s, and they are a stupidly expensive platform these days. + +F/A-18's however... +--- 58076737 +>>58076594 (OP) +No one wants the Griphen +--- 58076748 +>>58076594 (OP) +why would sweden ever agree to that? +--- 58076776 +>>58076737 +>no one +>2nd most produced 4th gen single-engine fighter +--- 58076780 +>>58076594 (OP) +>a dozen or two +Thats nothing. Denmark alone could deliver +40 F16s if they wanted. >>58076648 gets it. +--- 58076799 +>>58076776 +that means nothing. There’s only one single engine 4th gen that matters +--- 58076812 +>>58076737 +then why did ukraine say they want gripens +--- 58076819 +>>58076594 (OP) +because gripens don't exist and F-16s do +--- 58076830 +>>58076776 +>literally have to pay people to take them +It was over before it began, Sweden is too small to compete. They should just sell the rest of Saab to the Chinese. +--- 58076840 +>>58076830 +Ok Wang +--- 58076843 +>>58076594 (OP) +Why do people prefer windows over mac? +--- 58076854 +>>58076812 +At the moment ukraine kinda wants everything +--- 58076875 +>>58076776 +>270 gripens delivered +>over 3000 F16s + +If we run a 1 mile foot race and I finish in 6 minutes while you are 40 minutes behind you are in second place but hardly could be considered competitive. +--- 58076935 +>>58076854 +or it could be that the gripen is very well suited for the type of war ukraine is in right now +--- 58076978 +>>58076594 (OP) +>Why do Ukrainians ask NATO for F-16 and not for Gripens? +as others have pointed out, they have asked. + +to add to why they aren't getting them, the Swedes have brain damage. +Ukraine wanted to license production of the Gripen and then the nordic cucks backed out when 2014 happened. +Unironically the war could have been a different story if they hadn't been such worthless fucks. +--- 58076992 +>>58076776 +>4th gen +in an era where 4.5 gen is a word and an alternative +--- 58077139 +>>58076594 (OP) +I hate you. There were 271 Gripens (of all models) delivered. Where they fuck will ones for Ukraine come from since those are old and worn out? +There were 4600 F-16s made with more than 3000 still in current use. +--- 58077208 +>>58076776 +>2nd most +>4th gen +>single engine +>2nd most produced jet in this highly specific category +anyways guess who is first by a large margin? +guess which countries can easily afford donating/selling their jets and which of the two they operate? +--- 58077219 +>>58077139 +>There were 271 Gripens (of all models) delivered. Where they fuck will ones for Ukraine come from since those are old and worn out? +Like I said, let Sweden give ~20 Gripens to Ukraine and let the US give Sweden 20 F-16, if Sweden is so afraid of its Air Force being weakened by donating 10% of their fighters. +--- 58077239 +>>58076776 +bait +--- 58077393 +>>58076594 (OP) +Because the f-16 is infinitely better +--- 58077403 +>>58076819 +What was flying above my hometown a while ago then? +--- 58077426 +>>58077403 +Not a gripen. unless you’re in an absolute 3rd world country. Gripens are universally known to be garbage. +--- 58077428 +>>58077219 +but they only have 71? +--- 58077432 +>>58076594 (OP) +the f-16 isn't swedish and therefore doesn't come with a somalian man assraping you while you fly +--- 58077440 +>>58077403 +OH SHIT SOMETHING JUST FLEW PAST RIGHT OVER YOUR HOUSE +--- 58077443 +>>58077219 +Then you have a doubled logistics trail, double maintenance training, weapons and so on. that would be a huge waste and a pain in the ass. +The US needs to give them 4 squadrons, 96 aircraft and some trainer aircraft. +--- 58077497 +seething amerilards +--- 58077506 +>>58077497 +The lards won by having a better plane +--- 58077585 +>>58076978 +As expected of swedes. +t. finn +--- 58077684 +>>58076935 +Absolutely fucking not. There's no such thing as a fighter that's easy to upkeep but the Gripen would require significantly more dedicated industrial infrastructure to be set up within Ukraine before they could effectively operate them. + +Lazerpig doesn't understand jets and neither do you. If you're gonna come here and quote his opinions verbatim you should stick to the ones he did his research on, ie ww2 era tanks. +--- 58077688 +gripen my dick lmao +--- 58077690 +>>58076680 +Any source Any source on why Sweden said no? Legitimately interested to know why cause the impression I got is that they're desperate for ANYONE to order Gripens. All I can find is Swedish officials saying" there's no plans to" without elaborating much. +--- 58077719 +>>58076978 +>Plans to launch the licensed production of Swedish-designed Jas‑39 Gripen fighters in Lviv, mulling since 2014, eventually ended in nothing. +>The only purchase made so far was of 12 Turkish Bayrakatar strike drones in late 2018. They have just been delivered, and are not yet in service. +https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7027 +I don't if I should laugh or cry +--- 58077733 +>>58076978 +>>58077719 +Fucking Swedes +--- 58077742 +>>58077690 +https://eurasiantimes.com/no-saab-gripens-for-ukraine-sweden-jas-39-fighter/ +also, sweden wants people to buy it, and not give it for free, and even "selling" them to ukraine could interfere with future sales for countries that are aligned with russia, like brazil +--- 58077754 +EU is too cucked and afraid. +The point of F-16 among all is to unlock fighter jets, just like US unlocked Leos by promising 4 Abrams (and never delivering). +--- 58077794 +>>58077688 +Caught me off guard and I audibly chuckled +--- 58078011 +>>58077219 +>>58077428 +71 active E models +there are some leased to Hungary +don't know if the Brazilian output adds to the total +but there are scores of Cs Sweden doesn't want to spend money to upgrade right now. +--- 58078118 +this thread is a lesson in why Perun is sometimes retarded. Sweden (not NATO) dont have enough gripen to give away, and even then it is a niche aircraft with niche logistics and servicemen. it would be a headache for all involved if it were donated and would arguably lessen the pressure on the US to provide more capabable aircraft. why does anyone think ukraine are asking for f-type fighters, because logistics and maintenance are literally on their border, and 10 fighters are going to do shit when they need 100 +--- 58078303 +>>58077219 +Why not just give the 20 F-16s to Ukraine directly instead of this retarded musical chairs game of logistics? +Also: +>>58077443 +--- 58078870 +>>58078118 +He postulated the Gripen may theoretically be better, but he also pointed out that there are way more F16s/18s and they are available essentially ASAP (provided you have pilots). he points out the narrowly better use case is all +--- 58079091 +>>58078011 +uhmm no +--- 58079105 +>>58079091 +https://www.saab.com/newsroom/stories/2019/december/first-swedish-gripen-e-is-airborne +--- 58079177 +>>58079105 +And you think they have delivered 69 new E models into active service since then? +lol, lmao even +The Swedish Airforce is not what you think it is. +--- 58079195 +>>58076594 (OP) +American military technology is factually better than any other nation. Why fucking bother buying Europeans unless you're poor? +--- 58079223 +>>58079177 +I was making a point retard, Im not the other guy, I just complemented my post here>>58079177 +--- 58079275 +>>58079223 +Considering you can't even get your quotes right don't be surprised people don't get the point of your vague ass posts. +Retard. +--- 58079286 +>>58076594 (OP) +>still thinking this whole thing isn't one giant money laundering operation for (((political oligarchs))) and their underage brothels in Eastern Europe +I bet you think we brought "freedom and democracy after the Cold War" (and that's a Good Thing!) +--- 58079846 +>>58076594 (OP) +F-16s and their spare parts are plentiful, and they're in the process of being replaced by F-35s in many countries, so there are a lot of jets with some hours left in their usable lifespans. +--- 58079932 +>>58076594 (OP) +We’re not buying your fucking plane swedtard +--- 58079959 +>>58079195 +Ukraine is pretty poor +--- 58080008 +Really they need F-35s because any non-stealth air frame will be quite limited in what it can do and sorties will require a lot of coordination that is difficult to pull off. + +Or the B2 or B-21 so they can just bomb right through air defenses. +--- 58081067 +>>58076737 +brazil is buying 40 of them. they all comment about their hype on all the dcs videos it shows up in +--- 58081446 +>>58076978 +Sweden and Germany had a de-facto arms embargoes on Ukraine between 2014 and 2021. +Most European countries wouldn't even sell weapons to Ukraine but sold $400M to Russia. +--- 58081491 +>>58076594 (OP) +F-16s are superior. Don’t let those Swedes swindle you with their meatballs and their flat pack furniture, anyone who can afford the F-16 buys the superior option. +--- 58081511 +Because the US is the only nation willing to perform maintenance and repairs for gear being sent. If they got Grippens they’d fly a few sorties and then be grounded due to lack of maintenance. diff --git a/k/58076876.txt b/k/58076876.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fe3cec2b756dacbd9f4ab60b86beccebdc124a67 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58076876.txt @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@ +----- +--- 58076876 +this shouldn't be bannable, I've never even been to mexico and just curious, what is there to know about this? +is this a good/bad idea if I wanted to go to TJ? +--- 58076897 +>>58076876 (OP) +I will be visiting the old country soon and would love to buy a gun there and cc it for anti kidnapping ends but not only is that legally all but impossible but if I shoot a kidnapper I’ll probably go to third world prison + +At that point I would rather just get ransomed. The one place where I really, truly need it I can’t have it. +--- 58077000 +>>58076897 +I'd rather deal with whatever the system tries to do to me for having a le scary gun than get shot +TJ had nearly 2200 homicides last year, the only cities with more homicides are all in South Africa +--- 58077631 +bump +--- 58077716 +>>58076876 (OP) +>Around blacks never relax +>Best way to accomplish this is to avoid the groid +Why would you not apply this to anything else and just stay out. If it's family issues like seeing a loved one before they die then sure but if you were some white boy going down to see some shit hole or some black buying drugs then expect to be wading through shit. +--- 58077720 +>>58076897 +Nigga you're gonna get kidnapped buying the damn thing or the police will roll up on you right away and extort you +--- 58077724 +>>58077000 +Wow mexico is shit. why do people go there. +also didn't expect New Orleans to be so high. +--- 58077813 +>>58077724 +You have extremely stupid nogs, typically poor, with zero emotional regulation and zero impulse control with extremely easy access to guns +--- 58077953 +>>58077813 +>You have extremely stupid nogs, typically poor, with zero emotional regulation and zero impulse control with extremely easy access to guns +Is this why New Orleans so bad, or is this why people go to mexico? +--- 58077966 +>>58077953 +anon I think he's obviously talking about New Orleans +--- 58079750 +bump +--- 58080571 +>>58076876 (OP) +As long as you stick to the touristy/main areas and not look like a wealthy tourist, you will be fine. Do not bring a gun into Mexico unless you want to be stuck in a Mexican jail. Why do you want to go to Mexico in the first place? +--- 58080977 +>>58080571 +I'm going to fuck prostitutes +--- 58081147 +>>58077000 +>>58076876 (OP) +just dont come down here retard +--- 58081152 +>>58077953 +yea +--- 58081207 +>>58080977 +good luck +--- 58081216 +>>58077716 +Around spics watch your 6. diff --git a/k/58076904.txt b/k/58076904.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..590c2944547960b8d299f013de5ad5a5cf555f63 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58076904.txt @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +----- +--- 58076927 +>turning down free money +--- 58076945 +>>58076904 (OP) +I’ve used the 8x vcog and the 3.5 and 4x acog and I think the marines are dumb as fuck. My usmc buddy’s m27 still has a acog +--- 58080166 +Crayon eaters frequently experience lapses in judgement +--- 58080313 +>>58076904 (OP) +Some general probably got offered a board position after he retires fir replacing it diff --git a/k/58076916.txt b/k/58076916.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..93758d2bf3d2f34aeffa876dbe03ec8ee69978a3 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58076916.txt @@ -0,0 +1,139 @@ +----- +--- 58076916 +I have psychological character tests for army tomorrow,any adivce?I really dont want to flop,is there something i need to watch out for? +--- 58076936 +>>58076916 (OP) +Just don't act like a sperg? Its not that hard. +--- 58076946 +>>58076916 (OP) +Just be yourself, tell them about this awesome website and all the great friends you've made here. +--- 58076981 +I don't think you will have an issue as long as you are subordinate and obedient. + +Just don't be weird, be as normal as you can be. + +You will be fine, worrying about it is weird. +--- 58076993 +Are you talking about the "Tailored adaptive personality assessment" thing? Way easy. I passed with flying colors even though I'm a wreck of a man who still hasnt adjusted properly 3 years into his contract +--- 58077007 +>>58076993 +yea,pretty much.Can you tell me how u did it? +--- 58077013 +>>58076916 (OP) +Tell them you have weird dreams about suddenly missing the last bus to an important exam. + +Wake up and realized you overslept for real +--- 58077021 +>>58076916 (OP) +I’d be more concerned with the penis inspection +--- 58077029 +>>58076993 +>Tailored adaptive personality assessment +Really, that's the name? +TAP that ASS. +--- 58077053 +>>58077007 +Basically just pretend that you're open to experiencing new cultures and exploring. The more important one is pretending that you have good coping skills. Its not really important unless you're doing some special warfare thing. But like I said I was still elligable for everything despite being a complete loser. +--- 58077063 +>>58077053 +>elligable +see I'm retarded and I still passed +--- 58077075 +>>58077029 +yep +--- 58077119 +>>58077053 +>Basically just pretend that you're open to experiencing new cultures and exploring +Bro you are trained to kill and that's worth something, you don't get a rifle just to experience new cultures and explore. If SHTF you are expected to obey and kill, to shoot back. To be a warrior bro, a man of war, you can embrace it. +--- 58077130 +>>58077119 +Lmao I'm a fucking POG you clown. You dont know anything about the military. +--- 58077160 +>>58077075 +Mmmm, TAPAS +--- 58077161 +>>58076916 (OP) +1. Be honest, except for two things: drug use and medical history. If they ask, tell them you have never done drugs, and you've never had an injury. +2. Don't tell them what they want to hear. They'll pick up on it instantly and will immediately think you're dishonest. They're not stupid. +3. Know why you want to join, what your long-term goals are (stable career, buy a house, start a family, etc) and be able to talk about it in depth -- this shows that you take it seriously and are mature. +4. Be able to defend yourself from criticism -- and expect it -- the psychologist may prod your weaknesses, for example, if you say you're not social, he might tell you you're not suitable for the military. Don't be put off by this, it's to test how you react. Just respond calmly (a LOT of people get agitated during this) and explain why you would be a good fit for the military. +--- 58078007 +>>58077161 +>Be honest, except for two things: drug use and medical history. +Sorry gramps but they can and will pull your entire medical history with the new MHS GENESIS system. Best to be upfront with any potential issues so that you can get a waiver OP +--- 58078050 +>>58076916 (OP) +Think really hard about your answers, make constant eye contact and when they ask if you were ordered to kill someone would you do it, say yes as fast as you can then smile. +--- 58078054 +>>58076916 (OP) +Be completely 100% honest about everything. People make mistakes and men own up to them. They will respect your candor. +--- 58078096 +>>58076916 (OP) +Have you ever dumped a half ton of garbage just outside of Stockbridge, Massachusetts? +--- 58078193 +forgot what anyone else says — they're looking for killers and you have to let them know that's exactly what you are. +--- 58078611 +>>58077075 +>Tapas + +Bueno +--- 58078940 +>>58077021 +>the penis inspection +Yeah, They Pulled, Stretched, Twisted it. +Hope your not shy OP. +--- 58079059 +>>58076916 (OP) +If you are asking for advice on how to pass psych you've already failed. You're not even being examined, but the examination is already in your head. If what comes naturally isn't what the army is looking for then about face and walk away. +--- 58079117 +>>58076916 (OP) +Wear this shirt. +--- 58079157 +>>58077130 +try me hoss +--- 58079197 +>>58076993 +>Take TAPAS +>Become ineligible for Security Forces (lmao) +>Still eligible for special operations (not that that's what I was going for) +I don't know what I did to achieve that but that was funny as fuck. +--- 58079228 +>>58078050 +This. + +except say yes and try not to laugh +--- 58079754 +>>58077161 +>Don't tell them what they want to hear. They'll pick up on it instantly and will immediately think you're dishonest. They're not stupid. + +I need someone to explain how they'll know this. After all the whole reason I'm doing this test is because they don't know my personality, right? +--- 58079823 +>>58079754 +It means you shouldn't give the kind of generic answers that you think they want to hear, for example +>Psych: What are your weaknesses? +>You: I'm a perfectionist +Another example +>Psych: Why do you want this job? +>You: This country has given me so much and I just want to give something back +A LOT of people give answers just like these. They're all bullshit. People tend to give these types of answers because they want to be seen as perfect instead of answering the questions honestly. Have a good think about who you are, what you want to do in life, what your strengths and weaknesses are. +--- 58080539 +>>58077161 +best and most accurate info here, especially #1 +--- 58080558 +>>58076946 +Anon gets recruited into the military and brainwashed into a Manchurian candidate to infiltrate the terroist group known as 4chan. +--- 58080584 +>>58076916 (OP) +Start by asking them what answers would cause you to fail. Adjust your answers accordingly. +--- 58080620 +>>58076916 (OP) +Protip: edge yourself all night before the test but DO NOT CUM. +--- 58081232 +>>58080620 +Unironically this. Should be pretty easy if they make you spend the night at a hotel with a roommate before hand. +--- 58081248 +>>58076916 (OP) +if you need to ask help for a psych eval you've already lost +--- 58081262 +>>58076916 (OP) +I had an nco who told me he had to get wavered for the TAPS, "failed" it twice. As long as you aren't a total autistic retard you should be able to pick the answers thst indicate you would be a good leader (even if it's not true). diff --git a/k/58076961.txt b/k/58076961.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..42372c349d0e5638e1f4f4a470ea33986f5657ca --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58076961.txt @@ -0,0 +1,121 @@ +----- +--- 58076961 +How would you weaponize these artillery shells without using the standardized artillery launcher? + +They are full of TNT, and can be dismantled if needed, to collect the TNT, components, and metal. Much heavier than the grenades being dropped from quadrotors. +--- 58076977 +Dig a hole, bury, and rig a wire to them. Wait for something to drive over. +--- 58076989 +>>58076961 (OP) +The GWOT recipe is taking the fuze out and chaining 4-6 together along a road like claymores. +--- 58076991 +>>58076961 (OP) +>and can be dismantled if needed, to collect the TNT +Aren't they cast? Have fun melting the TNT out of them, chief. +--- 58077025 +>>58076989 +The Vietnam recipe was to strip it for metal and to reload mines/grenades/traps/ammo. Would often rig traps in the areas they fled. You drop or launch a lot of these, some of them are gonna be duds. Same scenario if Russians were dropping bombs on you, like in Afghanistan. +--- 58077049 +>>58076991 +I don't know how they did it, but they did, could have been black powder duds as well. The napalm was the real motherfucker, and that's just styrofoam and gasoline. Was brutal. +--- 58077065 +>>58076977 +I think it would be even more effective if you could hook it up to a heavy duty quadrotor. Those grenade drones are basically artillery, this would just be a heavier version. Would be a practical weapon for a conventional fighting force if engineered well enough. Just a bigger version of the drones being used now. +--- 58077079 +>>58077065 +Cost/benefit analysis of losing a heavy lift drone to drop one (1) HE shell. +--- 58077084 +>>58076961 (OP) +what are the screw(?) holes inside the yellow squares at the top for? +--- 58077086 +>>58076961 (OP) +>They are full of TNT, and can be dismantled if needed, to collect the TNT, + +> +40 kg +> 8 kg of TNT +> melt and cast TNT on the field +No thanks, just destroy them. +--- 58077113 +>>58076989 +This +Daisy chain along a route and command detonate using either a quad copter for observation or a civilian. 6 155mm on a route detonating under a convoy is devastating and will derail said convoy by at least 8 hours if not stop it entirely. +--- 58077135 +>>58077084 +Not sure, but might be an option to set the detonator for delayed explosion +--- 58077154 +>>58077135 +I mean the ones on the shell tho, not the fuze +--- 58077162 +>>58077084 +balancing? +--- 58077178 +>>58077154 +My bad. No idea. Now I want to know too. Must be an arty anon on /k/ +--- 58077187 +>>58076961 (OP) +put a tail on it and drop it from an octocopter drone with thermal camera. +--- 58077214 +>>58077084 +--- 58077223 +>>58076961 (OP) +Grab it and bonk the enemy in the head +--- 58077236 +>>58077214 +neat-o, thanks +are the holes inside the squares just for giggles or for gyroscopic balancing as >>58077162 suggests? +--- 58077265 +Righ the fuse to a mine detonator, put the shell towards the enemy direction of attack, out the mine 2-3 meters further away from directionof attack. + +A mine clearer will go over the shell, then detonate it when it hits the mine. +--- 58079976 +>>58076961 (OP) +Do it the japanese way. Put a man in a hole with a hammer. +Instant anti-tank trap. +--- 58080095 +>>58076961 (OP) +Modify into dumb bomb like Japanese. +--- 58080107 +>>58076961 (OP) +First you get a really big spring... +--- 58080136 +>>58080107 +Shut up bong +--- 58080169 +>>58076961 (OP) +Didn't you watch Hurt Locker? How stupid are you? +--- 58080175 +>>58080107 +>t. Wiley E. Coyote +Sounds legit. +--- 58080205 +>>58080107 +>155 PIAT +--- 58080452 +At Pearl Harbor, yamato/musashi 18" shells did as much damage as aerial torpedoes. + +Of course they weren't fired from the battleships. The japs attached fins to them and dropped em from dive bombers. + +To tremendous effect. +--- 58081169 +>>58077084 +>>58077162 +>>58077236 +Those are punch marks, for when the paint wear's off +--- 58081174 +>>58076961 (OP) +Ukraine drops them from heavy drones sometimes. +--- 58081180 +>>58076961 (OP) +> Modern shell with reliable fuzes +Drop them from a drone or a biplane +--- 58081203 +>>58076977 +You forgot the shaking cell phone video in terrible resolution with whatever that theme song all the Hajis used to put on their propaganda videos. +--- 58081212 +>>58077079 +>Cost/benefit analysis of losing a heavy lift drone to drop one (1) HE shell. +Each of these shells cost like, 2000 USD if not more. I have to check my DoD spending sheet again. 120mm tank shells cost USD1100-1500 +Standard 500/1000/2000 lb aerial bombs are unironically cheaper. +--- 58081280 +>>58076961 (OP) +Strip shell, convert to chemical weapon, drop sarin on Donbabwe children. diff --git a/k/58077001.txt b/k/58077001.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7bbde4afdc6a27621093cb4e726c17aae6308a92 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58077001.txt @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@ +----- +--- 58077006 +>>58077001 (OP) +you know an OP is a faggot when he posts a thread like this +--- 58077026 +>>58077006 +/thread +--- 58077038 +>>58077001 (OP) +>obsessing about faggots this much +Retard +The JSDF has it right, just assimilate them since fags can be patriotic and useful too +--- 58077077 +>>58077001 (OP) +Although I don’t think Hop is a tranny considering he’s like 6’7”, I am curious as to why his voice deepened significantly over the past few years +--- 58077327 +>>58077077 +your voice naturally raises/lowers based on nerves, frequently people's voice lowers as they become more comfortable on camera, public speaking, etc. that may be what you're noticing +--- 58077360 +>>58077001 (OP) +This little cumdump (and all the other youtubers) will be beating his little dick to that new Sig rifle in 5 years, so why should I give a fuck about his opinions on rifles? +I like bullpups, simple fucking as. +--- 58078046 +>>58077001 (OP) +hop dont worry about those shitposters even if you are a tranny i hope you make more videos about optic sights +--- 58078195 +>>58077327 +Didn't consider that, I'm guessing that's probably it. If you watch some of his vids from like 3 or so years ago he's a bit more awkward and his voice is a fair bit higher pitched, whereas now he seems to be very much comfortable with it. +--- 58078231 +>>58077038 +fags can be decent normal people, trannys are all mentally ill and should be barred from serving +--- 58080410 +>>58077077 +he finally hit puberty +--- 58080438 +>>58077001 (OP) +Hop's a tranny? Even better +--- 58080446 +I wish hop would look at me like that +--- 58080449 +>>58078231 +1000% this +--- 58080508 +>>58078231 +Ehhh, a lot of trannies are alright, but there are some genuinely mentally ill ones out there +--- 58081902 +>>58080508 + +Majority are worse. You get your 42% and then from the remaining population at least 75% are faggots of the highest tier annoyance. diff --git a/k/58077220.txt b/k/58077220.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4765d8060565c403eddb482db44d23204c1d6b72 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58077220.txt @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +----- +--- 58077220 +So lets say money isn't the issue. How would one get the proper licenses to buy a NEW full auto machine gun? Not some pre 1986 bullshit. I want new. This is what I got so far, let me know if I'm wrong. +>Have like $30k +>Get an FFL type 1? +>Get an SOT 3 +>Find a dealer that sells machine guns. +>Buy and wait like 9 months. +>Shoot on my private land. 100s of acres + +I got banned on guns on Reddit for this same post. Not a troll. I'm genuinely trying to buy a full auto because I have a lot of money and I'm bored and people think I'm trolling, even gun store owners lol. Some have hung up the phone on me. I inherited a good chunk of land and money. +--- 58077278 +>>58077220 (OP) +At this point it's actually worth going pre ban. All of this shit is going to cost you more than getting a >$30k preban. Not to mention if you do this you have to submit to random searches if your "business" which will most likely be your home unless you buy a storefront too. +--- 58077290 +>>58077220 (OP) +ffl 07 / sot 02 +--- 58077291 +>>58077220 (OP) +In the United States, the purchase and ownership of machine guns are highly regulated by federal law. To legally buy a machine gun, you must follow a strict process that involves obtaining a special license and adhering to several regulations. Here are the basic steps: + +1. Determine if you are eligible: To buy a machine gun, you must be at least 21 years old, be a US citizen, and have no felony convictions, domestic violence convictions, or other legal disqualifications. + +2. Obtain a Federal Firearms License (FFL): Machine guns are classified as "Title II weapons" under the National Firearms Act (NFA), and therefore can only be sold by individuals or entities that possess an FFL. You can either obtain an FFL yourself or purchase a machine gun from a licensed dealer who already has an FFL. + +3. Complete the required paperwork: To buy a machine gun, you must complete a "Form 4" application through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), which requires you to provide detailed information about yourself, the firearm, and the transaction. + +4. Pay the necessary fees: There are various fees associated with buying a machine gun, including a $200 tax stamp fee and any additional fees charged by the dealer or FFL. + +5. Wait for approval: After submitting your Form 4 application and paying the necessary fees, you must wait for approval from the ATF. The approval process can take several months, as the ATF conducts a thorough background check on the buyer. + +6. Take possession of the machine gun: Once your application is approved, you may take possession of the machine gun from the licensed dealer or individual seller. + +It is important to note that the process for buying a machine gun is highly regulated and can be time-consuming and expensive. Additionally, some states have their own laws and regulations regarding machine guns, so it is important to research the laws in your specific state before attempting to purchase a machine gun. +--- 58077335 +>>58077291 +He said new, not pre-86. + +Honestly OP, since you have enough acres just make one yourself. +--- 58077374 +You don't. + +You just shoot a semi auto really fast. + +With a hard reset trigger, or some bump fire mechanism. + +Check out this redneck, you can shoot "full auto" using just your hand. + +Guess we gotta ban hands now. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RdAhTxyP64 [Embed] +--- 58077383 +>>58077374 +Or, get the proper tax stamp, buy a normal modern full auto weapon or NFA legal full auto conversion. It's very straightforward, I think it costs around $200. +--- 58077385 +>>58077220 (OP) +>Put together new AR +>Drill 3rd hole +>Install necessary guts +>???? +>Profit +Why does it have to be legal? Apparently it's never leaving your land. Who in the fuck would ever find it? +--- 58077412 +>>58077385 +It is legal, if you go through the process. The local and state law enforcement does not enforce the NFA here, but they could really go after you themselves if they wanted. They've done it before in the past, it wouldn't be unusual, but they typically rely on the co-operation of local law enforcement to enforce the NFA. +--- 58077452 +>>58077220 (OP) +You have to be a gun manufacturer making actual sales. The sales do not need to be machineguns. Brandon Herrera (though a bit of a fucking faggot) is a great example of how to do this. His AK building business isn't actually to build AKs for profit, it's to build the bare minimum number of guns needed to keep his manufacturer SOT valid so he can buy or make all the full auto shit he wants. If you're in a position where you can actually burn hundreds of thousands a year you can do the same. +--- 58077939 +>>58077291 +Thanks /k/ bot! Whoever the faggot is that is running a bot on here to answer questions needs to be found and dealt with. +--- 58078388 +Im here to ask a variation on op's question. + + +What type of liscense do i need to build/make my own machine guns +--- 58078867 +>Standard Manufacturing lower receiver +>New Frontier Armory .125" drill jig +>Luth-AR select fire control kit +Use your land to never get caught and keep the $30,000 for a legal defense under Bruen in the unlikely event otherwise + +>>58078388 +Bill of Rights, Article II, US Constitution +--- 58079779 +Get a 86 ar lower and a shrike (whatever the new name is) upper and enjoy the belt fed goodness. +--- 58081477 +>>58077291 +>As an AI language model +--- 58081555 +>>58077220 (OP) +>How do you buy a machine gun in the US? +legally diff --git a/k/58077272.txt b/k/58077272.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..964d69aa35000c101574b6d1297d35ff17e7c0bb --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58077272.txt @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +----- +--- 58077272 +In 2020 there was almost 4 million new gun owners due to covid. I saw article after article about gun stores literally selling every single gun they had in inventory and we all know how much of a bitch it was to get ammo until relatively recently. I also remember hearing a lot about how these new gun owners would most likely sell there guns after a year or two when they realized it wasnt the apocolypse. +Did this actually happen? I dont feel like I see more people at the range than pre 2020. Did anyone get a steal on a used gun from one of these people? +--- 58077375 +>>58077272 (OP) +Don’t know about everyone else but my LGS had lines out the door for a few weeks during peak Floyd. Mostly older women and libs too. The 2-3 guys working there usually look bored and uninterested but at that point they all had shit eating grins on. Can’t imagine how much money they made and how many shit guns and ammo they overcharged for. Didn’t see 9mm for months, didn’t see .357 or .38 for literally 2 years. +--- 58077445 +>>58077272 (OP) +It did happen. There were no steals though. The used stock ended up on sale for a higher price than when it was bought to begin with. Also a significant portion of those ended up in buybacks before they made it back to the stores. +--- 58078460 +>>58077272 (OP) +Do you think these people bought HKs and Beretta or something? lol I'm sure if you look into the budget section of used firearms that no one with a good sense would actually pay money for, you'll find your "steals". +--- 58078815 +>>58078460 +I was selling PSA lower and bear creek upper ARs for $1000+ at peak rona. Selling AR500 plates for $600+. Paid off so much debt. +--- 58078829 +>>58078460 +But they bought everything, there were first time gun owners buying .44 magnums. Literally everything was sold out at some locations +--- 58078866 +>>58077272 (OP) +>I also remember hearing a lot about how these new gun owners would most likely sell there guns after a year or two when they realized it wasnt the apocolypse. +I mean, ARs are back under 400 smackers and wonder 9s are cheap too. +Nothing I'm looking for is particularly depressed because I'm not looking for that kind of stuff. +--- 58078869 +I think a lot of people just shop online these days or order to their local FFL, but even in my small community there are multiple gun stores that have no issues or shortages. Probably because I live down South in Appalachia. + +In fact, one of local FFLs handles weapons purchases for local law enforcement, and you can browse the database for the kind of guns they sell. All of these guns they sell to law enforcement can just be bought normally through an FFL. People forget that police are customers to weapons companies. + +Lots of ARs and those kinds of rifles, even some packages with scopes. +--- 58078875 +>>58077272 (OP) +I bought my first gun in late 2020. I've bought 7 more since then. Sold one to a friend and sold one to a stranger, both not at a loss. Also bought 2AR lowers and a bunch of parts, but haven't gotten around to finishing them. +I think a lot of those new owners are just holding on to them. +--- 58078910 +>>58078869 + +You only need to buy a rifle once. + +The gun companies develop higher calibers for law enforcement handguns, for example, just to keep selling more guns. + +But once you buy an AR or AK or just a solid rifle, if you treat it right, if you treat it like a woman, it will last you a lifetime and you can hand it down for generations. + +You can buy them slowly, or even in pieces, can get or legally make receivers pretty cheap. In America, if you are able to survive, you can save up a bit and get a decent rifle. +--- 58078911 +>>58077272 (OP) +People don't tend to sell guns they stash them. Guns get sold at estate sales. +--- 58078917 +>>58077272 (OP) +There won't be because the people who suddenly realized there is a need to own a firearm also realized that there are people trying to prevent them from getting another one as we speak. +--- 58078920 +>>58078911 +>Guns get sold at estate sales. +In my big extended redneck family we just hand them down from generation to generation as heirlooms. +--- 58078924 +>>58077272 (OP) +Lib here. The closest time I've ever been to buying guns was peak covid. Also ban all guns. +--- 58078933 +>>58077445 +Fucking none of them ended up in buy backs, the most successful buy backs get around 3k, hardly a drop in the bucket for 4 million. +--- 58078936 +>>58078910 +>But once you buy an AR or AK or just a solid rifle, if you treat it right, if you treat it like a woman +How is burying them in my backyard supposed to take care of my rifles? +--- 58078950 +>>58078920 + +You can legally build firearms pretty cheap without needing to register them or deal with licenses as well, depending on where you live, and then freely share them with other people. +--- 58078994 +>>58078936 + +If you do store any guns underground, when you aren't hunting or training with them, then it's best to keep them in a case. You can also disassemble the rifle into halves for storage and transport. + +I'm talking about actually cleaning and maintaining your rifle, it will last you for a very long time. + +Weapons caches make the most sense pretty deep in the wilderness, I guess you could bury rifles in your backyard if you wanted. + +I obey firearms law and I live in Alabama, so I'm not really worried about losing my guns at all. You can safely lock up guns in your truck/vehicle as well, and I guess a backyard cache would be secure if it was very well hidden. +--- 58079012 +>>58078994 +>keep them in a case +Or at least wrapped up in something and protected from the elements. Even in halves in a sealed plastic tub with mags. +--- 58079019 +>>58078994 +Anon, I was making a joke about burying murdered women in my backyard. +--- 58079045 +>>58078460 +I bought an M1A for my first gun and an SP5 a few months later and i got into guns because of the riots too, so it’s likely plenty more did +--- 58079052 +>>58078994 +>>58079012 +Wrong on both counts. Just get a VCI bag. +https://rustx.net/shop/vci-zip-lock-bags/ +Then put that inside another bag. +Make sure to clean it first and get a thin coat of something like corrosionX on it, then VCI and a weather bag. Bingo Bango, probably good for 50 years. +--- 58079191 +>>58078910 +>The gun companies develop higher calibers for law enforcement handguns, for example, just to keep selling more guns. +Virtually every single handgun targeted at the LE market is chambered for a 120 year old cartridge. +--- 58079230 +I work at a LGS, and did during the pandemic. We were able to stay open during the shutdown because we had a wall of fishing lures, so we were considered 'essential' so people could fish to eat or something. We went from making a little over a million per year in profits to breaking 3 million in 2020. The first week before the shutdown we were packed with people. During it all we had to impose limits on the number of people inside. We sold guns we thought we never would sell to all sorts of retards. I sold a .224 valkrie ar build to a pair of lesbians that had never touched a gun before because it was one of the only ARs left on the shelf. At the height of the pandemic, we had 3 pistols in the entire store, two browning buckmarks with pink grips and a sig p210 target I think. We had no MSRs of any type, we were almost out of .22s, and really just over/unders and a few bolt action rifles otherwise. +--- 58079482 +>>58078815 +>PSA and AR500 owner deeply in debt +sounds about right +--- 58079873 +>>58078910 +>treat it like a woman +Why so it'll leave me? diff --git a/k/58077416.txt b/k/58077416.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9e1142c80177cf2d1af460a41d2e2039264526cb --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58077416.txt @@ -0,0 +1,139 @@ +----- +--- 58077416 +Post Wood (Furniture) +Post kits and projects +Buy Ammo and go to the range +Go to the range +Frens welcome. Non Frens fuck off + +Thread theme +https://youtu.be/hHOrpFeXUao [Embed] + +As always No Trips, No Traps, No Airsoft + +Previously on /brg/ +>>58023952 → +--- 58077789 +/brg/ price sheet: +--- 58077834 +>>58077789 +lol +--- 58077866 +>>58077416 (OP) +Nigga do you have an rsc 1917 +--- 58077893 +>>58077416 (OP) +>that collection +jelly +--- 58077971 +>>58077866 +>>58077893 +just a pic i saved from /msg/ a while back because it had a bunch of rifles I'm missing from my own collection +--- 58078024 +You know, it's funny. For so long I have wanted a FN FAL for my own but after actually handling and firing one, I've lost interest. I thought the sights would be bigger tbqhwyf +--- 58078076 +More rail covers to come. +--- 58078426 +>>58077416 (OP) +I'm asking my question from last thread. Where do I find stripped uppers/lowers in AR-10/SR-25 pattern, not DPMS pattern? +--- 58078450 +>>58077416 (OP) +Im thinkin about those car-beans +--- 58078481 +>>58078426 +Dpms. +--- 58078518 +>>58078024 +This is what I'm worried about. I have astigmatism and find some iron sights hard to get a clear picture on, even with contacts in. Been wanting an FAL for some time, but don't want to have to rig an optic to it to be accurate. +--- 58078538 +>>58078518 + +The sight was downright miniscule +--- 58078632 +>>58078518 +>>58078538 +DS arms makes a replacement rear sight if you need to yank the tiny one off +https://dsarms.com/p-11633-dsa-fal-sa58-metric-para-rear-sight-with-quick-adjust-windage-knob-screws-and-spring-included.aspx +good luck with restock +--- 58078755 +>>58078538 +Yeah it's quite hard to work with. +>>58078632 +Nice, good to know. +--- 58078959 +>>58077789 +Why are nips so retarded about arms exports? I would do some nasty shit on the corner for a rifle or two. +--- 58078962 +>>58078426 +Armalite probably will sell you some. +--- 58078997 +>>58077416 (OP) +SL7 with 20 rounders count? +--- 58079007 +>>58078538 +Just buy an inch pattern if you don't like the metric front sight post +--- 58079021 +>>58078997 +Aaahh segggs too bad these don't exist in my corner of Yurop, only H&K 770s +--- 58079026 +I'm thinking of making a stupid decision and buying my optic setup before I buy the rail it's going to sit on. The damn upper and lower side rail that I want I just never in stock at the same time. +>>58078997 +Beautiful. Of course, fren +--- 58079042 +Personally new to the battle rifle scene. Considering either a PTR 91, RFB, or DSA FAL. Any advice? +--- 58079077 +>>58078997 +where does one acquire such mags? +--- 58079078 +>>58079042 +HK91s will have plenty of surp mags and furniture for cheap, FALs will be good for larping but really expensive for mags and ammo, and the RFB is made by kel-tec +--- 58079127 +>>58079078 +That's about the conclusion I've come to thanks anon +--- 58079151 +>>58079077 +They’re very uncommon. Supposedly only sold in Germany, Switzerland, Czech Republic, and I think maybe Poland too. And even then only sold for a couple of years since they weren’t popular. Brand new they were like equivalent of $70 each, but on the secondary markey if they ever show up command $250+ each IIRC. +--- 58079244 +>>58079042 +Buy a PTR. If that don't work buy another PTR. +--- 58079305 +>>58079244 +The only thing that worries me is the apparent teething issues +--- 58079740 +>>58079151 +thanks anon. shame they aren't more common. I'll just have to keep an eye out for them on the off chance i get lucky +--- 58079856 +>>58079077 +GB. Good luck. +--- 58079866 +>>58078997 +Exceptionally nice. +--- 58079917 +>>58079305 +I had teething issues. +From your mom breastfeeding me so much lol. +--- 58079942 +>>58079917 +That was his dad, and it wasn't a breast. +--- 58079987 +>>58078426 +Several of LMT's distributors sell stripped uppers and lowers. +--- 58080383 +>>58078518 + +Don't worry, most FALs will only be 2-3 moa anyway. Battlerifles are more minute of man than they'll ever be chase half MOA +--- 58080399 +Can y'all inform me about Benelli R1? It's one of the last easily available battle rifle/large calibre semi-autos left for us poor bastards in leafland. +--- 58080513 +>>58078959 +Selling weapons to other countries goes against their pacifist constitution, which gives them the heebie-jeebies +--- 58080550 +>>58079078 +FAL can only LARP as, what, Rhodies, Falkland War dudes, and BOPE? G3ers get to LARP as Chris Shiherlis, the T with the auto-sniper, and GSG 9. +--- 58080694 +>>58080399 +>Benelli R1 +Never seen one posted here. Ever. What about the FNAR, the competition model has no pistol grip? +--- 58081802 +>>58079042 +RFB is cool get one diff --git a/k/58077438.txt b/k/58077438.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e2086f7f93402a6f3fafb3f8842cff4c81b08b83 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58077438.txt @@ -0,0 +1,116 @@ +----- +--- 58077438 +> this board always says Italian military was trash +> watch Lion of the Desert +> expect Lybia to win because the movie was funded by the Lybian government +> Italy wins +wtf please explain +--- 58078317 +Jim Carrey once said: when the function got Hennessey +--- 58078343 +Also redpill me on the Malayan Emergency +--- 58078603 +>>58078343 +TL;DR + +>Malaya is being invaded by Japanese +>British free all the communist prisoners, give them jungle warfare training and say "good luck lol" +>after war, British come back +>everyone knows some shit is going to go down involving the communists at some point, both sides are building up strength +>"Malayan People's Anti-British Army" stages an insurgent uprising +>British, having expected this, have prepared by making everyone wear photo IDs, by changing the currency (rendering all the communists old currency worthless) and creating a constabulary and special police force +>note: almost all of the insurgents were Chinese (the majority of the population was Malay) because the Chinese were generally refugees with no land and no money, living on the edge of the jungle +>British COIN strategy is built on gathering as much intelligence as possible and separating the insurgents from the population +>in a typical operation, the British Army would round up all the Chinese in an area, put them in a camp, and then have the constabulary watch the camp while the army went to go do it again somewhere else +>once in the camps, the Chinese would be given legal rights to land to farm (the British had to beg the Malay sultans for land), and they would be subject to strict population control measures designed to prevent them from providing supplies to the insurgents or being intimidated by them +>eventually, elections would be held in the camps to create local governments, as a prelude to a national government +>British also create a "Malayan Chinese Association" as a legal, non-communist alternative to the MCP +>British succeed in reducing violence to the point where the MPABA is chased across the border to Thailand, and then hold elections, grant independence to the new government, and leave + +The lesson being that good policing/intelligence, a good understanding of local populations, and a good civil service can absolutely rape an insurgency under the right conditions. +--- 58078656 +>>58078603 +It probably also helps a lot that the Maylay commies were basically isolated from any foreign aid. +--- 58078694 +>>58078603 +Seems to me the biggest advantage the British had in this scenario was the insurgents being mostly made up of an ethnic minority. Easy to separate the insurgents from the population when they're two separate ethnicities. Easy to blame all the country's problems on the minority's terrorist activities. Divide and conquer. +--- 58078708 +>>58078603 +some odds and ends that I couldn't fit in a 2000 character limit + +>the British also created a "special branch" within the national police for intelligence and counterterrorism +>the Special Branch recruited informants within the camps and in insurgent infested areas, and served as the central clearing house for intelligence gathered by pro-government forces +>with this intelligence, they hunted down and destroyed the Min Yuen (the civilian supporters of the insurgents) and established a detailed list of every known member of the insurgency, when insurgents were killed in a firefight their photographs and fingerprints would be taken so they could be identified and taken off of the list +>the British also used food control to starve the insurgency, only allowing each family in affected areas a certain amount of food, that way there was no spare food for the insurgents, this led to famine and desertion for the insurgents +>the insurgents also operated across the border in Thailand, where they would extort Chinese for protection money and use that to support the insurgency in Malaya, after the insurgency started getting properly BTFO, the central leadership fled to Thailand +>the British had an amnesty program and would air drop "safe conduct" passes into the jungle that an insurgent could hand to any member of the security forces to be allowed to return home, a ton of insurgents deserted once they started losing, and most of the deserters gave the British intelligence so that the British could hunt down and kill everyone who realized what they had done +>the Chinese tried directly shipping guns and ammo to the insurgents, but the British established naval patrols and eventually shut it down, the Chinese eventually pulled aid to the insurgency after deciding they sucked +>the SAS conducted long range patrols (often months long) in the jungles to deny them to the enemy, keeping them on the run and killing some +--- 58078757 +>>58078656 +Yes and no. As I mentioned in that second blob, the MCP actually did have a cross-border infrastructure set up to get money, weapons and commands from Thailand to Malaya. The British tried conducting joint sweep operations with the Thai military but they generally weren't very successful, and the areas on the border with Thailand were always the most violent. I would argue the bigger factor was simply making it impossible for the insurgents to accomplish anything useful once they had infiltrated across the border. + +>>58078694 +It can be a double edged sword. + +There have been a ton of cases (Tamils in Sri Lanka, Catholics in Northern Ireland, Sunni in Iraq, Kurds in Turkey) where there's an ethnic minority that launches an insurgency against the majority and it creates a never ending cycle of the majority persecuting minority and the minority retaliating with terrorism. + +The British were fortunately able to prevent that cycle from starting by providing the Chinese and Malay communities with a ton of physical security, and by convincing Chinese and Malay elites to work together within the electoral system. +--- 58078808 +>>58078603 +The '45-'46 parts of Malaysia and Indonesia were pretty kino. Jap, Burger, and Bong troops all fighting Commies. +--- 58078854 +>>58078808 +Here's a fun fact about the immediate post-war period + +>the leader of the Malayan Communist Party is widely suspected to be on Japan's payroll +>after months of their leader trying every trick on the book to delay it, the MCP holds a meeting to openly confront him with the allegations +>the meeting is held in a cave +>during the meeting, the Japanese military shows up, and because everybody is trapped in a cave with only one entrance/exit, almost the entire politburo is wiped out +>the leader mysteriously didn't show up +>because all the people accusing him of being a traitor are now dead, he continues as leader + +>British reoccupy Malaysia +>the MCP wants to immediately start an insurgency to take advantage of the postwar power vacuum, but the leader keeps delaying +>there are widespread rumors that he's been taking money from the British in exchange for neutering the insurgents +>after months of him trying to delay it, the politburo finally schedules a meeting to discuss the accusations +>shortly before the meeting was supposed to happen, the leader steals the entire party treasury and flees the country, never to be heard from again +--- 58079055 +Insurgencies can only be dealt with in the early phases while most of their support is isolated to core members and associates of the core groups. +>Identify the core membership/leadership +>Identify the financiers/backers +>Determine *who* is agitating and driving recruitment. +>Determine what encourages locals to join the insurgency, and find means to remedy their problems via government outreach programs. +This is actually how the US government originally dealt with Bushwhackers and Jays after the Civil War. Do not treat them as some military power that must be fought, but rather a group of psychopaths and hooligans that needs to be arrested in order to bring justice to people effected by them. If you sensationalize their actions, the outcasts and downtrodden of society will be encouraged to join them in a sense of finding themselves or finding a community to belong too. + +The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth. +--- 58079092 +>>58079055 +>The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth. +IDK, BLM/Antifa types are catered to everywhere, and they still lob molotovs at anything. +--- 58079115 +>>58078603 +The issue with commies, unlike the Mujahideen, is that they are not integrated with the police and military. They are fundamentally opposed to both, and they are against religion as well. A strategy like this seems tailored to communist insurgencies. +--- 58079142 +>>58079055 +>Insurgencies can only be dealt with in the early phases while most of their support is isolated to core members and associates of the core groups. +Unless you have a decentralized, asymmetric insurgency. You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea. Sometimes, killing the man causes loss of public support, and increases the popularity of the idea. Public support is the fundamental deciding factor, and the public of America is Christian. +--- 58079159 +>>58079142 +Realistically, modern counter-insurgencies have not been dealt with in this white glove manner. Killing civilians is not how you win public support, and identifying combatants can be nearly impossible. +--- 58079413 +>>58079115 +Really, Islamist insurgencies seem to be a lot messier in general because people can't be won over to the pro-government side with guarantees of economic or political concessions. + +So you end up with a lot more focus on brute force and a lot less focus on reform and persuasion. Places like Algeria, Chechnya, Kashmir just have violence as a permanent feature of their society because it's impossible to wipe the radicals out entirely. +--- 58079451 +>>58078603 +>>58078708 +thanks for the QRD + +that reminds me of Lion of the Desert, the Italians won by sequestering most of the civilians and making barbed wire border walls that cut off resupply +--- 58079480 +>>58079092 +theyre mostly ugly freaks that have been bullied tho + +source: google their mugshots diff --git a/k/58077444.txt b/k/58077444.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..97c922ddffc3d139c465cf620aba38e9be693fc7 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58077444.txt @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@ +----- +--- 58077444 +If wars in post-colonial Africa were presented as fiction, people would think it's some edgy grimdark fantasy fanfic written by a literal fedora-tipping katana-wielding neckbeard + +>combination of modern-ish armies and warrior cultures +>combination of modern weapons and people throwing spears at each other +>battle bards and shamans +>general Buttnaked +>child soldiers on meth and steroids +>losing side being cannibalized or sacrificed +>using nature, disease and famine +>concept of war crimes doesn't really exist +>just zero rules and fucks to give +--- 58077479 +>>58077444 (OP) +Not really, but they would think it is just Game of Thrones with guns. There is a broad logical throughline behind all the crazy shit. African countries need to keep their neighbors disorganized; so they take what money they have, buy weapons, and unscrupulously hand it to random militias to do the fighting for them. In turn, these random militias just take over mines or villages and squeeze all the money they can out of a brutal occupation. +--- 58078804 +>>58077479 +It's pretty sad when you realize that most of Africa is stuck in a never-ending cycle of violence and poverty +--- 58079208 +>>58078804 +its actually pretty cool when i think about it +--- 58079539 +>>58078804 +Eh... not really. I hate to say this when the board is currently filled with BRICS schizos that love this type of rhetoric, but the main reason why things remain the way they are is because the West genuinely does not give a fuck. When we send aid to, for example, Rwanda; we know damn well that this aid directly translates towards more funding towards Rwanda's presence in the Congo. But all the average Westerner knows about Rwanda is "oh Hotel Rwanda was a sad movie, send them more food :(" while being completely ignorant to the fact that Rwanda has essentially used that excuse to plunder the Congo for decades now. Would Africa magically develop if the West left them along? Definitely not, but the kind of assistance we send to Africa now essentially does nothing to actually address the root issues in the area. And it's easy to wipe our hands and say "not our problem, who cares about niggers lol", the issue is that China is giving aid more in-line with what the region needs while also attaching a shitload of strings that essentially turn the countries into Chinese protectorates. When you consider the insane amount of natural resources like coltan and copper that can be found in the region, the prospect of "just ignore them lol" can be turned against the West for massive benefits to securing the CCP's economy from Western sanctions. As >>58079208, the warfare is still peak kino. +--- 58079567 +>>58079539 +Africa is doing way better than they were 20 years ago. + +Shit is by no means perfect, but I think it's also wrong to say that the west didn't give a massive amount of aid in an effort to address the region's problems. The core issue is that corruption, civil conflict, and authoritarianism are domestic political issues that can't really be fixed from the outside. +--- 58079637 +>>58079539 +kagame plundering the drc pushes the continent as a whole further along the path of civilization (east african federation ??) rather than intervening to save whatever 10000 ethnic groups are dying because of it +--- 58080228 +>>58079567 +While Africa is doing much better, the Eastern Congo is flaring up and Kabila has his eyes on the presidency again; so who knows how long that status quo will last. The issue is that the West views Africa as a receptacle for foreign aid without much consideration for market signals or anything like that; it's all about the symptoms. There is food insecurity; so we send them fertilizer, equipment, all sorts of shit for industrial agriculture. But the issue is that anybody with the expertise to use this equipment efficiently is getting the fuck out of Africa. It's also worth noting that we try to cut the government out of these things out of concern over embezzlement or worse (this doesn't real fix the issue of these funds mysteriously disappearing) The Chinese, on the other hand, only view it through the lens of business. Corruption, well that's just the cost of business. So what if Robert "General Murder-Rape" Desire-Toussaint III takes 50 million from an 800 million dollar deal? It only means there will be one less sugar refinery being built, that's just the cost of doing business. Paradoxically, this overly pragmatic view actually ends up working out in those countries favor. The aid is entirely dependent on market signals. Chinese investors see that 5 new sugar refineries would make more money than sending some nigs fertilizer, mills get built, suddenly there is a massive demand for local sugar production, suddenly that sector of agriculture is pushed into developing, suddenly you have a class of people with expertise in industrial agriculture that can be shifted into more humanitarian efforts. The rhetoric that has been tossed around by the West alot more often today is "trade, not aid", which hopefully will work out. +--- 58080252 +>>58079637 +It is in Rwanda's best interest to hold the entire region back as much as possible. If the region were to suddenly start booming, well then Rwanda would be squished between much more populous and powerful neighbors than themselves. And it is really hard to blame them, you know, given the genocide and all that. But no, Kagame doesn't want to push the continent further along towards civilization; he wants to push off his neighbors to bring Rwanda towards civilization. It does make for some kino moments though. +--- 58080288 +>>58080228 +>Chinese, wants to help you build sugar refinery +No, Kwame, The Chinese usually wants resources, like wood, litium, gold, silver etc etc. +And they have been doing it quite efficiently +--- 58080289 +Interesting concepts, night /k/ really does have a higher wordcount per post. Are there any good books on this subject that you guys would recommend? +--- 58080329 +>>58080288 +They mainly want Coltan, as was mentioned before, Africa can be used as a shelter by the Chinese to weather Western sanctions. And part of that push is to help with industrialization within these countries (so long as it doesn't threaten Chinese interests). I specifically mentioned sugar refineries because that was one of China's big private investments in the Congo. And let me make it clear that the Chinese are only interested in using these countries as little more than protectorates. That is what is concerning about the whole thing, China is making joining the Chinese protectorate into a lucrative endeavor while the West fumbles around trying to get illiterate Africans to read about crop rotation. +--- 58080472 +>>58080329 +>Africa can be used as a shelter by the Chinese to weather Western sanctions. +I see the strategic point and attempt, but how do you shield an export economy that has something like 70% of its customers inside Western sphere? African resources are not enough to sustain such an effort. +--- 58080492 +>>58080289 +It's been a long ass time since I took a course on contemporary African history, but the textbook we used was Contemporary Africa, by Toyin Falola. Volume 5. That's a good place to start in terms of economics and political issues, and is a nice primer overall. The issue is that the study of contemporary Africa is absolutely marred with an excessive focus on the West's role in all of it. Beyond that, there is kind of a strangely insular scholarship around it. Pop African history books are fucking garbage, so you are going to be forced to work with hardcore bore the fuck out of yourself textbooks. +--- 58080559 +>>58080472 +>I see the strategic point and attempt, but how do you shield an export economy that has something like 70% of its customers inside Western sphere? +The same way the British did with India. You try to create a society of customers that exclusively trades with you. The Chinese develop Africa, try to industrialize sugar production here, try to industrialize coltan mining there; but also creating a class of Africans that are wealthy enough to purchase foreign goods as a result of this development. Since all these endeavors are Chines companies, and the Chinese have their greedy little fingers in everyone's pie, it's only natural that the Africans purchase their consumer goods from China. But the kicker is, they are sending their materials to China, working as China's own miniature factory or farm or mine or whatever the Chinese need, then China takes these unfinished goods, processes it, slaps a made in China sticker on it, and ships it back to Africa at a massive mark up. Obviously this plan isn't going to completely shield China from the sanctions, but that's why China is leaning so hard into BRICS, the Belt-and-Road, etc. as well. I am not trying to doompost though, since the main issue is that this plan requires a long-term dedicated effort on China's part to establish this system. And Chinese foreign policy is infinitely mercurial, not too mention China has its own looming issues to worry about. diff --git a/k/58077468.txt b/k/58077468.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f581a638a9e8d8db360324f116cdecebc4f2a6f8 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58077468.txt @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@ +----- +--- 58077468 +So unfortunately my friends I have bad news +Another uprising has started +This time in western Somaliland but the reasoning makes no sense as a Somaliland Solider was assassinated and now locals want to leave Somaliland. It's going to be a very violent dark day ahead. +Also in laascaanood Somaliland defeated some local militas in a small skirmish and captured a few technicals +--- 58077476 +>>58077468 (OP) +Some artillery being showed off tho +--- 58077486 +>>58077476 +Map of the revolts +Pray for Somaliland +--- 58077504 +>>58077486 +I'll post any weapons and issues I see +--- 58077535 +>>58077504 +Oddly the same day the United States visited +--- 58077547 +>>58077535 +Artillery strikes in western Somaliland +https://twitter.com/F21241215/status/1654190387509055502?s=20 +--- 58077569 +>>58077547 +I don't know this gun +https://twitter.com/SirSomaliland/status/1654135761224990720?s=20 +--- 58077921 +literally nobody cares anon +--- 58077928 +>>58077921 +Someone does +--- 58078008 +>>58077569 +soviet dshk? +--- 58078016 +>>58078008 +Thanks! +--- 58078041 +>>58078016 +ofc. sad to see such violence unfold. praying for a peaceful resolution +--- 58078360 +>>58077468 (OP) +So now a rebellion has started against Somaliland itself, over the killing of a Somalilander soldier? +--- 58080272 +>>58078360 +Yeah makes no sense +--- 58080423 +>>58077468 (OP) +With this plus Sudan kicking off, the continent is in for more rough times. But i guess that's the norm. +--- 58081460 +>>58077486 +>>58077468 (OP) +I bet operatives based out of Djibouti did this. +--- 58081464 +>>58080423 +You mean East Africa. Every region is separate and has their own insurgencies and bandits to deal with. +--- 58081722 +>>58081460 +China has a base in Djibouti. They're most likely behind it. I think they want to route a railway though Somaliland and into Somalia. UK wants a base in Somaliland which is another reason why other actors are fucking with them. diff --git a/k/58077477.txt b/k/58077477.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f8871d8e1936fdacdfcfc7a26dcf8fe480200b82 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58077477.txt @@ -0,0 +1,191 @@ +----- +--- 58077477 +The great debate +--- 58077485 +>>58077477 (OP) +I genuinely don't understand how you'd grip an angled foregrip. +--- 58077496 +>>58077477 (OP) +I use both at the same time. +--- 58077527 +>>58077477 (OP) +Why would anyone need either of these? +--- 58077530 +>>58077485 +put your hand around it +--- 58077549 +>>58077477 (OP) +angled makes c-grip easier but the straight grip let's you handle your rifle easily with just your off hand leaving your other hand free if needed + +if having to ruck and wade through wilderness prefer the straight, for tacticallarpbeardfags the angled grip is better for standing still across from paper gangsters +--- 58077731 +>>58077477 (OP) +i'm not allowed to use the second one +--- 58077811 +>>58077549 +You can still angle grip your rifle with the vertical one, it just doesn’t feel as good as the angled grip. I just wish Magpul would make the gen 1 angle grip in mlok. +--- 58077828 +>>58077811 +yea you can but your pinky always rest kinda weird on it, well that's my skill issue with it +there's the half-way between with those stubby slightly angled grips, I haven't used one myself but my buddy swears by them +--- 58077852 +>>58077477 (OP) +*blocks you're path* +--- 58077881 +>>58077828 +I rather like my BCM one. I use it as a handstop the majority of the time moreso then an actual grip, but it's big enough that I can hold my rifle under control with a sling if I need. +--- 58077907 +>>58077477 (OP) +I'm you but better +--- 58077934 +Vert, I really like how much I can pull into my shoulder with it. +>but the angled grip lets you do that too +I don't c-clamp so it's just more intuitive to me +--- 58077983 +>>58077485 +c clamp it +--- 58077997 +>>58077881 +yea that sounds ideal +--- 58078084 +>>58077527 +This. I like my AR grip nice and smooth. I can grab it anywhere at any time not having to worrying about something in the way. +>>58077852 +Although these I’ve considered for their minimalism. +--- 58078150 +>>58078084 +You're missing out. Even just a simple angled grip is really nice for giving you a consistent thing to index your grip against so you get a more consistent stance and grip. +--- 58078169 +Everyone that I see with a vfg just holds it like an afg. +--- 58078174 +AFG is a meme, you can do the same with a VFG via the thumb-break grip while also being able to use it as a monopod in some situations, brace it against a barrier, or just deathgrip it if you're going FA. +--- 58078177 +>>58077477 (OP) +The AFG only has any kind of popularity because it fixed the problem of the USGI KAC quadrails being godawful to actually hold. +Private gun owners have numerous choices and don't need to buy the shitty old style KAC rails, so they can avoid this issue entirely. I'd go so far as to say the overwhelming majority of private AR owners would be better served with clamshells than any other option. You can attach a flashlight to the FSB and you're good to go if you aren't planning on adding IR, which 99% of private owners won't add. And if you are an IR user, tons of options that aren't those shitty old quadrails. +Vertical grip was popular partially for the same reason of the quad handguards being shit. But VFGs also work as handstops, and are a good place to put a tapeswitch if your flashlight isn't easy to access with your thumb. Overall a more versatile accessory. +--- 58078221 +>>58077852 +>>58077907 +>>58078084 +Handstop really are superior for ergonomics and weapon handling. I tried lot's of different vfg's and angled grips but nothing comes close to a good handstop. It just makes your grip more secure without wasting space (or being a possible snag hazard). Never going back from handstops +--- 58078264 +>>58077477 (OP) +I much prefer vertical +--- 58078288 +>>58078221 +Interesting, I’ll have to pick one up and try it. +--- 58078332 +My old job issued the CQD vertical grip with the striker en cap for high gun strikes. It would ring your bell with a helmet on. + +>>58077549 +>c grip> +Pic rel. +--- 58078411 +It is really simple to find out and most people are too pussy to do it. + +Don all your tacticool gear go outside and hold your rifle at the low ready for 8 hours. +You will find out with a quickness what works what does not for you. +--- 58078514 +Short VFG is all you need +--- 58078552 +>>58078514 +I’m sure a short grip feels natural to you huh? +--- 58078619 +>>58078552 +yeah +--- 58078722 +>>58077477 (OP) +I have both, but I just like a short hand stop the most. The first pic you linked is less likely to fuck with AK mag reloads though, especially circle 10 mags +--- 58078747 +>>58078411 +Why would you ever hold a rifle for 8 hours? +--- 58078881 +>>58078852 +I'm bummed I can't pick up those Surefire VFG flashlights for reasonable prices anymore. Shit is peak GWOT accesory +--- 58079647 +>>58078881 +Cheapest I've seen them in a while, around 120 or so. Guy has them on eBay and Gunbroker. I know because I was about to sell one because last time I did I got like 180, but no way to do that right now. He's got a shit ton of 'em so buy one. +--- 58079668 +>>58078881 +i miss the 2000s so fucking much bros +--- 58079697 +>>58077477 (OP) +For me it's Hera Arms +--- 58079745 +>>58078747 +Aparently you have never needed to defend guard or patrol in your sheltered life. +--- 58079919 +>>58079697 +How do you even grip that thing? +--- 58079945 +>>58079919 +like a P90 +--- 58079952 +>>58079919 +Like this. +--- 58079971 +>>58079745 +Hell no. Sorry you had to do that. Sounds miserable. +--- 58080116 +>>58079745 +The people who have to do that don't get a choice of what to put on their rifle, so the point is moot. +--- 58080162 +>>58078169 +Most pictures I see of actual soldiers using the vfg has them holding it with a full wrap around grip +--- 58080198 +>>58077485 +What do you mean +--- 58080206 +>>58077477 (OP) +>vertical foregrip starts being used out of necessity because the sopmod setup had so much shit on it there was no room left on the handguard for your actual fucking hand +>VFGs get outlawed by the gayTF so cucks make AFGs to cope +>neither one of them actually help you control your rifle and better + +Tacticool larpers get off my fucking board REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE +--- 58080218 +>>58080206 +If we kick off the tacticool larpers all that will be left on /k/ are indians and russians spamming off topic trash about not weapons +--- 58080221 +>>58077477 (OP) +Angled because it reduces recoil by 20% instead of the useless hip-fire accuracy bonus of the vertical +--- 58080356 +>>58080206 +>neither one of them actually help you control your rifle and better + +what sort of noguns bullshit is this? either one will allow you to have better, more consistent application of pushing back the rifle into your shoulder. +--- 58080447 +>>58080206 +That’s not why AFGs were made, and vertical foregrips existed before SOPMOD so, yeah welcome to the retard club fren +--- 58080465 +>>58080206 +Pretty sure a broom handle helps you control muzzle rise +--- 58080499 +>>58077485 +It lets you pull the gun back into your shoulder easier. You weld the gun into your shoulder and you don't really have to hold up the weight as much, easier to pull in then to hold a weight up in your outstretched arm. +A VFG allows the same thing but is not legal on a pistol. + +A short VFG, paired with a thumb actuated light is GOAT if you don't have night vision. +--- 58080515 +>>58080499 +My preference anyway +--- 58080638 +>>58080206 +God damn you're dumb. +--- 58081355 +>>58080116 +Are you on drugs we had a 20' conex box full of vidmars loaded with shit to improve the ergonomics. That is how I got my KAC forgrip& quad rail, trijicon RX01 because we never had to turn that shit in. In pretty much any unit I know of you are allowed to make ergonomic changes as long as it does not affect mechanical operation. +--- 58081435 +>>58077477 (OP) +>not using a dong +--- 58081518 +>>58078332 +What was your old job? +--- 58081531 +>>58081435 +Nice dog +--- 58081698 +>>58077477 (OP) +Vertical grips are superior. The only reason why you'd use that other thing is if you don't want to break federal law with a barrel shorter than 16 inches. +--- 58081763 +What happened to holding the barrel like the Halo Plasma sword? diff --git a/k/58077510.txt b/k/58077510.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9516f224ce416616ceb962d50c2ac664731cf6a6 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58077510.txt @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +----- +--- 58077510 +I enjoyed Bioshock Infinite. That being said, one of the things that throws me and nearly breaks my suspension of disbelief is the in universe 1984 invasion. How does it actually go? Do we get to see napalm dropped on balloons? F-4 phantoms? A nook? +--- 58078292 +>>58077510 (OP) +bump +--- 58078309 +It's been 10 years since I played Bioshock Infinite, remind me again why Comstock would attack New York City instead of Washington DC if he hated America so much? +--- 58078324 +>>58077510 (OP) +Temporal fuckery, she knew what was going to happen before it did and whatever else. +--- 58078365 +>>58078309 +While DC is the capital and his ultimate target, maybe New York embodies his disgust more and he wants to make an example of it? +--- 58078680 +>>58078365 +Probably this, imo. +--- 58078772 +While this is somewhat retarded, it does bring up some good points. + +Cruise missiles would be incapable of targeting important sections of the airships (DSMAIC could maybe work?), so ASHM would be modified to hit aerial targets. Most traditional A2A missiles would be somewhat ineffective, seeing as multiple large components would need to be knocked out to achieve a kill. +We’d probably see lots of rockets and lobbed bombs. Also AIR-2 Genies for shits and giggles +--- 58078795 +>>58078772 +Wouldn't Stingers and mobile AA be able wreck havoc on a few of the balloons? +--- 58078820 +>>58078795 +The balloons and airships would get absolutely fucked. The floating islands are held up by those well protected magic generators. However, all that does is keep them afloat while modern aircraft and artillery shell the ever loving fuck out of them with impunity. +>muh plasmid troopers +Still die to guns. + +Infinite really falls apart on the most surface level scrutiny. +--- 58078833 +>>58078795 +Stingers surely not as the airships float without heat. Mobile AA was iirc not much common in NY in '84 (and US army in general). What would crash the party would be F-14s in spectacular fashion. But remember that Columbia has teleportation tech on their side. +--- 58078839 +Wait the invasion is supposed to be in fucking 1984? I thought it was meant to be like the 20s or something. +Even with Comstocks magic science shit he'd get absolutely fucking raped by 80s aa and aircraft +--- 58078846 +>>58078309 +9/11 allegory? +--- 58078930 +>>58078839 +Yeah, it was either 1983 or 1984. +--- 58079589 +Might’ve been a surprise thing. Like, yeah Columbia gets raped by modern aircraft, but they still manage to pull off 9/11x1,000 before they’re taken down. +--- 58080860 +>>58077510 (OP) +You guys know what Bioshock is about, right? +https://odysee.com/@americankrogan:3/BioShock-Series:0 +--- 58080900 +>>58078309 +He's a southern hypernationalist. He hates New York as much as the average /pol/ak hates Israel. +--- 58080913 +>>58077510 (OP) +He has time travel, teleportation, and dimensional travel. He can just teleport safely back 1910 any time he's threatened, and can predict when and where any attacks would occur. Then, he could get reinforcements from an infinite number of parallel Columbias. +--- 58080976 +>>58077510 (OP) +isnt bioshock an alternate universe with divergent timelines? did ww2 even happen? i know some war happened but i dont think ww2 played out the same way. even if it did how are they supposed to make f4 and other advanced tech when all the smart scientists fucked off to live under the sea or in the sky? +--- 58080995 +>>58080976 +Who really gives a shit it's just Jewish propaganda. +--- 58081485 +>>58080976 +OP here. That's true. I was just curious what others would suggest would come first, which aircraft would fly in, if mobile AA would even happen. In the actual scene you do see the 1980's stock exchange display which makes me think maybe some if not all our tech might have stayed the same after the 60's. I'm also going off the "something in the sky" trailer where camera equipment is about the same as 80's tech which makes me think military maybe didn't change. + +>>58078833 +You think LAWs would do anything if you put infantry in high rise buildings? diff --git a/k/58077596.txt b/k/58077596.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6b9bdd513c4315802d7e0b61092731d689b87846 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58077596.txt @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +----- +--- 58077596 +What went wrong? +--- 58077608 +drum mag +--- 58077615 +>>58077596 (OP) +Timing. Came around just in time to be classed as a DD. +--- 58077649 +Someone needs to just reinvent full brass shotshells so that semi-auto shotguns actually become viable +--- 58077667 +Faggot fuck BATFfaggots hate shotguns because so many agents in the 80s got facefuls of buckshot when they were out grabbin +--- 58077694 +>>58077596 (OP) +A good description of it I've heard was "An answer to a problem that didn't exist". It's really cool in Call of Duty though. +--- 58077709 +>>58077649 +>so that semi-auto shotguns actually become viable +How would having brass shells accomplish this? Aren't most issues with semi-autos mostly due to low FPS loads like birdshot? +--- 58077712 +>>58077649 +Your solution is to make the ammo even heavier? +--- 58077721 +>>58077712 +more reliable to cycle and load in box mags +--- 58077725 +>>58077596 (OP) +life isn't a video game +--- 58077732 +>>58077721 +It's not though. +--- 58078097 +>>58077596 (OP) +Shitty design that's been around for 50 years without a shred of interest from any military or LE force on the planet. +--- 58078148 +>>58077596 (OP) +It never did anything that couldn't be done by significantly cheaper and less complex designs +--- 58078154 +The magic doesn't work in closed bolt, which means no good semi version can be marketed to cash in on the hype. +--- 58078200 +>>58077709 +Non-tube magazines can deform plastic hulls with the pressure on their sides. +--- 58078228 +>>58078200 +Bullshit and fuddlore. +--- 58078250 +>>58078200 +Again, isn't that mostly an issue with low FPS (read: low brass) shells? +--- 58078277 +>>58078250 +And paper shells, which are about as common as low brass in the year of our /k/ube 2023. +--- 58078278 +>>58078250 +No, it's an issue with being made out of plastic and being vertically compressed by a spring + +>>58078228 +Retard +--- 58078342 +>>58078228 +>>58078250 +Nah, it's true. If left in a box mag long enough it can start to deform the shotshell. It tested it a few times. It usually took over 2 or 3 weeks two to deform tho, the fastest deform was around 2-3 days. Sometimes it was only a litte but sometimes significant. There wasn't any consistency, but there was a difference between manufactures +--- 58078401 +are shotguns even relevant anymore? outside of breeching? +--- 58078457 +>>58078401 +They sure pack a mean punch and are easy and very instinctive to shoot. I'd say they are relevant and will likely stay relevant for a long time +--- 58078465 +>>58078401 +Hunting, home defense, areas with lousy gun laws +--- 58078473 +>>58078401 +They're the CQB meta, if you don't have one you're gonna get clapped and vibe checked in the boog +--- 58078483 +The reason it failed is the mini 12 ga grenades it was designed to fire never panned out they were to complex too expensive and did not pack enough punch to make anyone drool for them. +--- 58078717 +>>58078483 +What do you think, twice the price of 40mm? +--- 58078777 +>>58077596 (OP) +Tldr, the repros were put on indefinite hiatus because the guy who owns the dies for the gun got pissed they made their own dies with blueprints and then got the atf involved. +--- 58079221 +>>58078483 +This turd had been on the market for 30+ years before those useless babby grenades were developed. +--- 58079322 +>>58078401 +A 18.5/72ish(12 gauge) caliber gun with a capacity of more then 3 (4,5,6,7,8, 9 ....capacity tubes) that is not very heavy, is reliable for relatively cheap or you can go for a decent semiauto if you got cash. +Its the closest oneshot stop for HD barring extreme shit like stopping rifles. +Cums in 20,16,12 and 10 gauge depending on your particular needs . 12 being very very common. 10 is a bit of a massive overkill but if that doesnt stop a mutherfucker you are fighting the t800. +--- 58079577 +>>58079322 +Subtle noguns post +--- 58079881 +>>58077596 (OP) +when i was in the military I had a door kicker transfer to my unit he told me a story that the aa-12 was the prefered "room clearing" tool they used other than grenade of course +--- 58080182 +>>58078278 +This has literally never impeded feeding. Stop parroting fuddlore. +--- 58080327 +>>58078097 +>>58078148 + +Pretty much, from what I recall when it first burst onto the scene, the thing is heavy as fuck, which means to integrate it into a squad means you lose a rifleman which no one really wanted to do. + +Additionally those smart 12 gauge grenade rounds that were super hyped never got adopted or properly released from what I recall or simply never made it out of prototype stage which was one of the potential main draws of it. Being able to drum feed fully automatic micro grenades was a cool idea, but nothing ever came together. diff --git a/k/58077624.txt b/k/58077624.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4e03e557325087d85ec7f63347da04caafc190b2 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58077624.txt @@ -0,0 +1,47 @@ +----- +--- 58077624 +Does the second amendment guarantee my right to own a soviet era 9K33M3 Osa-AKM? +--- 58077715 +>>58077624 (OP) +But why would you own shit? +You can crap it outta your mom. +--- 58077728 +Yes. +--- 58077815 +Not yet, but give this Supreme Court another year or two.KMX +--- 58077816 +>>58077728 +Yes x2 +--- 58078075 +>>58077815 +lol no thomas and brett are getting removed and the gop isn't getting the white house ever again +--- 58078115 +>>58077624 (OP) +I don't know. Is it in common military use? If so then yes. +--- 58079182 +>>58077624 (OP) +god I love short range sam systems +--- 58079192 +>>58079182 +this make my dick go erect +--- 58079954 +>>58077624 (OP) +>heh dumb conservatives think that they can win against an A-10 +>hey what is this funny diamond saying SA-8-ACK +--- 58080520 +>>58077624 (OP) +--- 58080532 +Wasn't funny on /o/ either. +--- 58080601 +>>58077624 (OP) +You can literally own tanks in america. Someone bought a Captured russian t-90 from the Ukrainians and shipped it to America. +https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russian-t-90-tank-from-ukraine-mysteriously-appears-at-u-s-truck-stop +--- 58081141 +>>58077624 (OP) +No, because it's a sensor not an arm. Same way the Second doesn't grant you the right to own a telescope. +--- 58081168 +Download Sam Simulator and bust on your monitor +https://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home +--- 58081210 +>>58077624 (OP) +Technically yes, Jewishly no. Unfortunately we are under Jewish control. diff --git a/k/58078036.txt b/k/58078036.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6d86a3dd3e3772e3d68fb714faadab5256983898 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58078036.txt @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@ +----- +--- 58078036 +Once upon a time, two men, John and David, engaged in a heated debate on an online forum about which gun was better, the M1A or the M14. John argued that the M1A was a superior rifle, while David was convinced that the M14 was the better choice. + +As they continued to argue, they began to realize that they had more in common than just their passion for firearms. They both had a deep interest in history, enjoyed the outdoors, and had a love for classic literature. + +Their online conversations soon turned from arguments about guns to discussions about their personal interests and hobbies. They spent hours chatting about everything from Shakespeare to hiking trails. + +As time went on, they both began to feel a growing attraction to one another. They were hesitant to share their feelings, worried that it would ruin their friendship, but eventually, they couldn't keep their emotions hidden any longer. + +John confessed his love to David, and to his surprise, David felt the same way. They decided to meet in person, and their connection only grew stronger. + +They spent their days exploring the outdoors and discussing their favorite books, and their nights wrapped in each other's arms. They found that their shared love for firearms was only a small part of what brought them together. + +In the end, they both realized that the debate about which gun was better was insignificant compared to the love they had found. They were grateful for their online argument that led them to each other and for the love that they had discovered. +--- 58078058 +the m14 is better because i like how the thingie sticking out looks :) +--- 58078073 +>>58078036 (OP) +That's an M1, not an M1A, and you're a homo +--- 58078090 +>>58078036 (OP) +Why does your picture have a M1 and an M14 and not an M1A and M14? +--- 58078105 +>>58078073 +I bet this was written by AI +--- 58078346 +>>58078036 (OP) +I don't care if this is AI, this is a wholesome story about two faggots finding happiness together. It's believable because they're arguing over M1A vs M14 while looking at a photo of two guns, one of which is neither, and they enjoy homosexual sex, which is spot-on for fans of this rifle. +--- 58078379 +>>58078346 +All the gay boomers I’ve ever known have been fairly wholesome so it’s at least somewhat realistic +--- 58078382 +>>58078036 (OP) +>American society beings to turn to shit and eat itself from the inside-out around the same time the AR platform replaces Garand-derived platforms. + +Coincidence? +--- 58078385 +>>58078382 +>begins +--- 58079842 +>>58078036 (OP) +holy shit you're a faggot OP really please KYS +>the m14 is a fully automatic m1a without a selector on a .308 unless you got a bipod and some machine gunner training good luck keeping an m14 undercontrol +>m1a reigns supreme if you weren't such a retarded faggot trying to post your weird homoerotic short stories on /k/ you'd have realized the actual argument is between m1a vs m1garand... +>not m1a vs m14 because no one owns any m14 dipshit diff --git a/k/58078053.txt b/k/58078053.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1faf7992e9ed93122ba30131a98401896cb46aae --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58078053.txt @@ -0,0 +1,599 @@ +----- +--- 58078053 +What is the military strategy behind making Telegram videos of dozens of corpses of your own dead soldiers and screaming about the lack of ammunition? +--- 58078072 +>>58078053 (OP) +hes a caterer not a general +--- 58078109 +>>58078072 +What is the strategic advantage of giving a restaurant owner control over a PMC ? +--- 58078111 +>>58078053 (OP) +--- 58078113 +>>58078072 +i think he is a criminal and not a caterer +--- 58078143 +>>58078072 +He probably thought it would be a good investment and didn't expect to actually have to fuck shit up +>>58078113 +He's the 'legitimate businessman' sort of caterer. +--- 58078146 +>>58078053 (OP) +--- 58078158 +>>58078053 (OP) +Putin is going to take heads after the withdrawal. Everyone smart is preparing their excuses now. +--- 58078159 +>>58078053 (OP) +He looks like he'd be fun to beat up. I bet he cries when he gets a nosebleed +--- 58078171 +>>58078109 +What else can I say, my compliments to the chef +--- 58078186 +>>58078146 +--- 58078189 +>>58078171 +Send this back and tell them I want my vatnik well done. +--- 58078229 +>>58078158 +There is a non-zero possibility Putin's head rolls at the end of this. Possibly literally, depending on how mad the keyholders of power are. +--- 58078248 +>>58078053 (OP) +By reducing the morale of his troops and the troops around his position to a large enough negative integer, they become fearless when the value underflows. +--- 58078294 +>>58078053 (OP) +The strategy is to generate public outrage, so people pressure the government to get him more ammo, or donate to a war fund to buy more ammo from overseas. (Them imbezzle, and keep crying about ammo). Usually done by Muslims like Hamas in Gaza +--- 58078304 +>>58078053 (OP) +Deflect blame from your own failings in the field. +--- 58078307 +clearly baiting the hohols +--- 58078314 +>>58078053 (OP) +I can't help but feel kind of bad for him. It must suck seeing so many young men die under your command because of some bullshit army politics. +--- 58078325 +>>58078307 +yes yes, you can't bait a pig without sacrificing a few hundred musicians, that's the Wagner gambit in hyperdimensional chess +--- 58078333 +>>58078314 +>I can't help but feel kind of bad for him +lmao, dumbass +--- 58078337 +>>58078314 +So sad, if only he could do something to stop these pointless deaths....... +--- 58078350 +>>58078325 +he's sacrificing convicts. +he wins either way. +--- 58078357 +>>58078314 +He's the one getting them killed. He makes these stupid-ass vids so he can blame someone else. +--- 58078361 +>>58078111 +Checked +>REDEEM AMMUNITION BLOODY BASTARD BITCH SHOIGU +--- 58078371 +>>58078314 +you really need to read up on this guy and Russian culture in general. +--- 58078396 +>>58078171 +>ITS FUCKING RAW +>WHERE'S THE LAMB SAUCE? +--- 58078407 +>>58078294 +>The strategy is to generate public outrage +This doesn't get reported on russian state tv, it's most likely meant for western audiences. +--- 58078427 +>>58078053 (OP) +you need to understand who this video is actually adressed to. +Russian goverment? Lmao they either dont care, wont do shit. +Russian oligarchs? Lmao they are in spain and just want this war to over so they can return their cool shit. +Russian army? Army actually hates wagner because they have MUCH BETTER CONTRACTS. + +So the best part: +The video is adressed to russian people, which means that Prigozhin is aiming to become politician, dare i even say PRESIDENT? +And this is best part because Putin never allowed anyone around him to have "cult of personality". +--- 58078439 +The video is a square for the following Russian War Bingo card spaces: + +1. Shell hunger +2. Mass casualties +3. Political infighting +4. Calling the Minister of Defense a Defense a faggot +5. Mercenaries +6. Corruption +--- 58078521 +>>58078314 +You can't be this naive. +--- 58078622 +>>58078146 +kino +--- 58078648 +>>58078111 +le liberator face +--- 58078684 +>>58078314 +My guy HE is literally the entire reason they are dead +--- 58078759 +>>58078314 +Most Russians are not capable of empathy. He doesn't care, and neither should you. The murderers, rapists, etc. who got splattered would slit your throat for your phone. +--- 58078813 +>>58078053 (OP) +He looks more human in this photo. +--- 58078831 +>>58078189 +I gotchu homie. +--- 58079060 +>>58078831 +God I can't wait for next week +--- 58079113 +>>58078314 +^Idiot tourist. +--- 58079143 +>>58078111 +cahm on shiogu, send sum fakken shells +--- 58079310 +>>58078171 +Here you go anon +--- 58079320 +>>58079310 +template +--- 58079337 +>>58078072 +>>58078109 +They purposely trained him wrong, as a joke +--- 58079354 +>>58079060 +What happens then? +--- 58079365 +>>58078053 (OP) +I'm honestly surprised he hasn't just fucked off back to Africa with his band of merry retards yet. Seems a lot more profitable to bully the local populace over there. +--- 58079369 +>>58078425 +Ukrops used a tiny amount of their $100B on a Hollywood-level production to make that video. +--- 58079372 +>>58079365 +I don't think he has a choice +--- 58079373 +>>58078053 (OP) +--- 58079385 +/k/ believes literally anything, bunch of retards. +--- 58079420 +>>58079385 +So he's just posing with dead bodies and lying about his ammo shortage? +--- 58079427 +>>58079420 +Fuck vatniks, but...yeah, duh. He sees the Ukies milking the West for gibs and, since vatniks are a species incapable of original thought, decided he'd give it a try. +--- 58079466 +>>58078294 +>people pressure the government +>russia +Lmao +--- 58079472 +>>58079427 +so he isn't lying about the ammo shortage then? make up your mind +--- 58079541 +>>58078111 +What is this doofus bitching about? +Didn't he find a yuuuuuuge cache of weapons, like, yesterday? +G'wan, Prickgozhin, take your Maxim guns and go charge into Bakhmut like an hero! +--- 58079555 +>>58078146 +lmao, he wasn't there as a guest? he was serving them food? +--- 58079572 +>>58078053 (OP) +He wants more special treatment from the government, but I also think he is broadly right about the strategy Russia should be pursuing if they want to at least get out of this with their country intact. The Russian MoD is filled with motherfuckers just as retarded as he is. +--- 58079581 +>>58079555 +If I were making the money Prigozhin was making, I absolutely wouldn't mind serving Dubya some caviar. +--- 58079613 +>>58078109 +Plausible deniability. Putin is a big believer in following the letter of the law supposedly. +--- 58079752 +>>58078314 +Are you retarded? He's not some army colonel who'd be replaced by someone else, he literally funded fagner and recruited them. He brought them there, he led them to their deaths +--- 58079762 +>>58079373 +Many such cases +--- 58079810 +>>58078314 +>I can't help but feel kind of bad for him +>because of some bullshit army politics. +as leader of the mercenary company its his job to protect the company not only against the enemy but against their own employer as well, actual theater of war is very different place to providing security against desert bandits +--- 58079872 +>>58079466 +Putin is terrified of losing public support and becoming Gaddafi 2.0 +Just look at how long he delayed the mobilization. +--- 58079880 +>>58078314 +Sp are these those convict prisoners who got commuted sentences for joining up? Are they like actual rapists, murderers, and thieves? A lot of people got sent to gulag by the Soviets for trumped up charges. You never can tell with Russia + +Either way fuck em though. +--- 58079897 +>>58079872 +>Putin is terrified of losing public support +does he have public support or are most just afraid? +--- 58079915 +>>58079872 +For all "le strong leader makes le trains go on time" he's a massive procrastinator and everything has been too little too late. +--- 58079941 +>>58079880 +>Wagner prisoners who get released go back and murder grandmas in the motherland +Yeah, I think we know what type they are + +I did wondered if they'd forced white collar political prisoners into Wagner. But I guess those pasty liberals would make awful soldiers, not even good for meat shields. +--- 58080001 +>>58078111 +I WANT THEM TO STOP SHITTING THEIR PANTS +--- 58080006 +>>58079897 +Russians support the stronk monke on the top. +But as soon as the monke does no longer seem so stronk they will quickly turn against it. + +You can bet that Putin will get "traitor to Motherland" -treatment if he does not kick bucket before it +--- 58080053 +>>58079472 +Are you ESL, or are you mistaking me with another anon? My direct statement is that Prickocean is lying about being out of ammunition as a means of sowing doubt in the public over Shoigu and the regular army. He's got plenty of ammunition, but the problem is that he has no competent soldiers left, and the few that he did have weren't that good to begin with; Patriot has the actual former operators. +--- 58080078 +>>58079897 +It's impossible to tell, but the issue is that it doesn't matter that he doesn't actually have popular support in the faraway oblasts. They can't get to Moscow because 'lol, no infrastructure'. And the Moscow/St. Petersburg area may as well be City 17 after the mobilization panic. Putin still has support within the regular army, considering they're all his bitches that rely on him for their oligibs. There's a reason why the window meme is still a thing. +--- 58080108 +>>58079941 +I legit don't know man thats why I'm asking. I'm not OP saying I have sympathy for them I'm just wondering who these guys are. The idea of a PMC in a warzone is like goofy GI Joe/Cobra shit to me +--- 58080129 +>>58079872 +>Just look at how long he delayed the mobilization. +what's left of the duma might have got in his way +--- 58080130 +>>58078053 (OP) +he's begging the govt to send his troops better equipment. He is not aware that it doesn't exist +--- 58080151 +>>58080078 +>There's a reason why the window meme is still a thing. +I think the original joke goes something along the line of how many people have fallen to their deaths out of a window in secret polices lubyanka buildings basement +--- 58080212 +>>58079880 +>>58079941 + +There's already been documented cases of people arrested for protesting the war being handed mobilization notices in their jail cells, it's not much of a stretch that some of them wound up in Wagner. +--- 58080321 +>>58080212 +>"Can you believe this shit?" +Guy in the middle +--- 58080344 +>>58078072 +Catering was a way of leeching money from the state with a sole purpose of establishing shill farms and a PMC. +The man is a hardened criminal, has been since before meeting Putin. +--- 58080348 +>>58080321 +Kek, it does kind of read that way. +He's probably actually wondering if the devil box the photographer is stealing his soul, the poor doomed hillbilly. +--- 58080353 +>>58078813 +That photo is from 2010. Prigozhin's aged 25 years since then. +--- 58080357 +>>58080348 +devil box of* +I guess that's a sign I should probably go to bed +--- 58080387 +>>58078111 +Damn, the VDV music video guy has aged like shit +--- 58080404 +>>58079555 +Prigozhin had the catering contract for Kremlin functions +--- 58080421 +>>58078111 +>the next wave!!! +--- 58080433 +>>58080404 +I wonder if Monke looks at these pictures before going to sleep, wishing he could turn back time to the good ol' days where banan was plentiful and everyone thought he was 500IQ ex-KGB hatchet-man turned political mastermind. +--- 58080463 +>>58078146 +not to go full /pol/fag here but why does he look so jewish?? nigga looking like a nazi propaganda poster +--- 58080566 +>>58080463 +Because the Nazi propaganda want based on actual Jewish features, they were based on stereotypes that portrayed the Jews as greedy, conniving criminal businessmen who would murder a man for a quarter. +Tl;dr- he doesn't look Jewish, he looks like an evil bastard. Because he is one. The propaganda you refer to wanted to portray Jews as evil bastards, so that's why he resembles those portrayals. +--- 58080570 +>>58079880 +>Are they like actual rapists, murderers, and thieves? +At least three of the guys who survived 6 months in Ukraine and earned their presidential pardons are already back in jail on murder charges. + +Ivan Rossomakhin killed an 85-year-old woman with an axe, Georgiy Siukayev stabbed a 38-year-old man with mental disabilities, and Demyan Kevorkyan was involved in the murder/robbery of two people whose car had gotten a flat tire. + +https://www.foxnews.com/world/mercenary-warlords-troops-terrorize-russia-ukraine-service +https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/22/alcohol-and-prostitutes-wagner-convicts-pardoned-by-putin-return-to-terrorise-home-towns +https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/grisly-double-murder-russian-shadow-180904536.html +--- 58080573 +>>58080566 +Wasn't*, thx phone h8 u 2 +--- 58080603 +>>58080151 +The Lubyanka is so tall you can see heaven from the basement. +--- 58080688 +>>58080212 +>people arrested for protesting the war being handed mobilization notices in their jail cells +Ludendorff tried that! +It... didn't go great. +Picrel. +--- 58080753 +>>58079762 +kek +--- 58080763 +>>58078053 (OP) +No one knows better than Priggy how the war is going to end. He's setting himself up for that future. When they inevitably lose he wants Shoigu and the traditional Russian military to be the fall guys. +--- 58080899 +>>58078053 (OP) +I was thinking about this today. If they are actually successful in conquering entire Ukraine or at least a large part of it whilst he is the face of the whole operation, he would wield immense political capital in the coming decades. That would open up a pathway into higher politics for him or at the very least even more power than he already has. + +On the other hand, it's also his backup safety if he is on the outs with Kremlin. Being a public's hero of the war makes him untouchable. +--- 58080917 +>>58078427 +>become politician, dare i even say PRESIDENT +I thought so too, but it's not really that possible. The guy is the most sanctioned person in the world. If he becomes president who only visits Belarus and China, maybe. His political pathways are very limited on international level +--- 58080933 +>>58078759 +>Most Russians are not capable of empathy +t. never been to Russia. whole perception of Russians is from the news and like 2-3 armatards on these forums. +--- 58080938 +>>58079762 + +thanks, now I gotta reassemble my sides +--- 58080940 +>>58079365 +>Seems a lot more profitable to bully the local populace over there. +He doesn't really need money. He's worth 1 billion by the most conservative estimates of the money we actually do see. + +His companies fund Russian government insitutions like army and schools with contracts that pay tens of millions of dollars every year. It's more of a question of how he can capitalise on this and basically become Kevin Spacey from that cod game +--- 58080959 +Some Anon get this letter today in russian. +Guess what's inside? +The inscription "Together we will win!" +--- 58080970 +>>58080959 +OK. I will not delay - an invitation to PMC Wagner. +--- 58080985 +>>58080970 +AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA +How long until military forbids Wagner to send around letters. They already forced him out of TV, billboards and radio +--- 58080996 +>>58078053 (OP) +i dont know but its a breath of fresh air and pretty funny i guess. i hope he deposes putin and becomes the president lol +--- 58081029 +>>58079310 +>>58079320 +Well done anon! +--- 58081048 +>>58080212 +>>58080321 +>>58080348 +--- 58081058 +>>58080970 +>>58080959 +Not everyone understands your slav runes, post translation or get the fuck out. +--- 58081063 +>>58081048 +I would love to read an account of how the Ukrainian army was reformed after 2014. Looking at the pictures from Crimea was like something straight out of the Russian 90s. + +Now the good units look more like buttoned up operators. + +https://youtu.be/KIwZ9OLjiRA [Embed] +--- 58081069 +>>58078111 + +My god...opк poccии...it's hideous...! +--- 58081075 +>>58078053 (OP) +hes a based retard +--- 58081084 +>>58078111 +DIOS MIO +LA CREATURA DE RUSSO +--- 58081088 +>>58081075 +You forgot to add that you respect him, ruzzkie propagandist. +--- 58081093 +>>58081058 +First image says +>Together we will win +Second one +>I invite you to get a job at Wagner PMC! Right now, our units continue to operate in the zone of the special military operation, and we are recruiting volunteers for further work +Then it goes on you gotta be between 21-60 and on't need previous experience. +--- 58081113 +>>58081093 +Well, today's advertisement by prigozin definitely would help. +--- 58081120 +>>58081093 +>>58081058 + +That was actually really easy to transliterate. I fucked up the zh, sh, tch letters a couple of times before I got it right. I guess all the time I spent sounding out moon runes finally paid off. +--- 58081161 +>>58078111 +Mein Gott... Der Untermensch... +--- 58081175 +>>58081120 +Last line means: Military service experience not required +--- 58081206 +>>58078294 +>Usually done by Muslims like Hamas in Gaza +And Jews in israel, funnily enough. +--- 58081217 +>>58078111 +Why was he complaning when just the other day Wagner found a large stash of weapons inside some underground tunner or something. +--- 58081221 +>>58081217 +It's not like russians lie all the time. +--- 58081222 +>>58081217 +because it was thompsons, mosins, and maxims lol +i think prigozhin is running out of material to post +--- 58081243 +>>58078350 +How is he winning? He's looking so incompetent he might just be awarded the Russian window ceremony. +--- 58081274 +>>58080463 +Because he is? +--- 58081278 +>>58080566 +>he doesn't look Jewish +Nigger, he is a kike. This isn't some secret. +--- 58081286 +>>58080933 +--- 58081298 +>>58081206 +Same thing, unironically. +--- 58081328 +>>58078314 +The only thing he laments is the vanishing prospect of monetary bonuses. +--- 58081351 +>>58080917 +If Russia continues on its trajectory of becoming the next North Korea then he'll make a perfect match +--- 58081374 +>>58078146 +Maybe Pyrog is Putins FSB agent to cut some of Shoigus influence, give Putin more and more reasons to get rid of Shoigu in case of growing civil war. +Imho its all careful games +--- 58081432 +>>58081351 +>If Russia continues on its trajectory of becoming the next North Korea +--- 58081453 +>>58080387 +for the record Maydanov (VDV music video guy) looks even worse than Prigozhin does now, lol +--- 58081455 +>>58081286 + +>Participates in blatant war of genocide +>"Hero" + +Such is Russia, land of the barbarian. +--- 58081466 +>>58081432 +Wtf? It said Russia is a multi-ethnic state? Wtf? I was told it was all white people and they were going to save the white race? +--- 58081473 +>>58081453 +Maydanov has tried to become the whiter Vin Diesel. +--- 58081528 +>>58078146 +Just reminder poison Putin's is favorite assassination tool. +--- 58081558 +>>58081528 +>poison Putin's is favorite assassination tool. +Ah.. Putin plays like a girl. +--- 58081574 +>>58079880 +80% of Russian male prisoners got there on the drugs charges (mind you not distributors just users, "distribution weight" in Russia is close to single dose and there is always fat finger on the scales). +--- 58081575 +>>58081466 +Jewtin disagrees. +--- 58081674 +>>58081558 +What do you expect from the midget. He was shoved around by Chads all bis youth. But then he find his ominous way to come back at them, slipping poison unti their coffee. Mayor of S. Petersburg Sobchak, on this photo Putin's carry his documents suitcase, was eventually poisoned and suddenly died. Checkmate Chads! + +Curiously that reflects onto entire Russian state and its ways of doing things. Female way of pathological lying, never taking responsibility, and doing nasty things when people aren't looking. +--- 58081706 +>>58078111 +>don't call russians "orcs", it's dehumani– +--- 58081713 +>>58081674 +>putin and moot and m00t are both luggage lads +you learn something every day +--- 58081724 +>>58078053 (OP) +Probably to get ammunition, to be able to blame the dead Wagnerites on Putin and to give himself leverage against Putin in case there's an internal struggle that would lead to a power shift. +--- 58081726 +>>58081558 +What was the name of that English lady, who was accidentally poisoned along with Skripals? +--- 58081739 +>>58078053 (OP) +>What is the military strategy behind making Telegram videos of dozens of corpses of your own dead soldiers and screaming about the lack of ammunition? + +>Putting pressure on the MoD to supply equipment for Wagner. +>Gain Reddit Karma with Russians for his upcoming political career. +>Put the blame on the MoD (for not supplying the equipment and ammo they said they needed) in the case Wagner is wiped off the face of the Earth by Ukraine. +--- 58081760 +>>58078294 +Doesn't really work when the general public will get jailed if they talk about it in public even if for supporting wagner. +--- 58081772 +>>58079897 +russians like the war as an attempt at another stronk empire. What they grumble about is the lack of progression towards Berlin. Which they take for weakness and by which point they start turning on the tzar until a new iron fisted monkey takes his place. + + Never forget Stalin is their idol of a perfect tzar +--- 58081785 +>>58081772 +That's what their media says. In real puccia more than 2.5 mln people have fled already. +--- 58081787 +>>58081726 +Dawn Sturgess +--- 58081793 +>>58081772 +--- 58081804 +>>58080344 +Lol im sure he was real hardened in prison +--- 58081806 +>>58081793 +kek for just one egg +--- 58081808 +>>58081785 +And deportations back incoming because countries are getting tired of the russians acting like cunts. +--- 58081838 +>>58081793 +Kids got balls. Lots of balls. In prison +--- 58081851 +> What is the military strategy behind making Telegram videos of dozens of corpses of your own dead soldiers and screaming about the lack of ammunition? + +It's is not i military strategy. It's political tactics. Prigozhin obviously has lost all the possibilities to communicate directly with Putin and this public activity is a desperados try to send the message. +--- 58081863 +>>58081851 +>Prigozhin obviously has lost all the possibilities to communicate directly with Putin and this public activity is a desperados try to send the message. +does this mean that Russia is technically using 4chan for military communications? +--- 58081869 +Prigozhin just has decided to left Bakhmut +--- 58081885 +>>58081863 +>does this mean that Russia is technically using 4chan for military communications? +You'll be laughing, but I directly know a girl who made an analysis of /pol and /k memes and narratives for russian presidential administration few years ago. So that's can be plausible. +--- 58081889 +>>58081869 +Sourso? +--- 58081892 +>>58081869 +So all this whining is PR to justify retreat and disobedience. +--- 58081898 +>>58081863 +Ukraine's a step ahead by using Discord. +--- 58081901 +>>58081889 +https://t.me/dvachannel/117037 +The source is in Russian. Wait for good translation. +--- 58081909 +>>58081901 +>telegram from 2ch +You must be kidding me. +--- 58081913 +He took pictures of dead Ukrainians, but anti-Russians didn’t enjoy that narrative so they turned the bodies into Russian corpses. +--- 58081921 +>>58081913 +--- 58081926 +>>58081901 +Grey zone also announced it with abit more detail + +https://t.me/grey_zone/18516 +--- 58081933 +>>58081869 +big if true +--- 58081934 +>>58081921 +>Invincible to irony +Checks out. +--- 58081940 +Stalin was based he was really good at killing orcs, one of the best. +--- 58081962 +>>58081909 +>You must be kidding me. +I can bring you a bunch of others tg channels with this exactly message. Is Prigozhin-affiliated greyzone good enough for you https://t.me/grey_zone/18516 +--- 58081970 +>>58078053 (OP) +Considering Russia's bracing for Ukraine's offensive it is deception towards Ukraine's allies saying "we're collapsing on our own, you don't need to support Ukraine any more". + +I know logical explanations don't usually apply to Russia, but they're not stupid. Retarded yes, but not stupid. +--- 58081992 +>>58081926 +Living in the idiocracy. diff --git a/k/58078100.txt b/k/58078100.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f631e5cf7a6de299344a63c89692e4820bd7c8c8 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58078100.txt @@ -0,0 +1,1321 @@ +----- +--- 58078100 +Translation: “Look at them, you bitches! (…) you sit in expensive clubs (…) your children make YouTube videos (…) you think you have the right to dispose of their [Wagner fighters] lives (…) they came here as volunteers and died so you could gorge yourselves in your offices. Shoigu! Gerasimov! Where are the fucking shells!” + + +https://t.me/c/1844096577/55945 + +Link for non-telegram users + +https://files.catbox.moe/3txn3u.MP4 +--- 58078266 +>>58078100 (OP) +catalog nigger do you see it?? +--- 58078300 +>>58078100 (OP) + +Better question, Prozakobitch.....WHY do you fight for Russia again and the fucking idiots who run it, smartass? +--- 58078416 +>>58078100 (OP) +So what happened? Russia is not winning the war anymore? +--- 58078434 +I see you jannies +--- 58078441 +Maybe he just needs to plant another flag for his cafe bomb buddy and this time he'll win. +--- 58078446 +>>58078434 +Should have embedded the subs into this. +Makes it even more comical. +--- 58078447 +why the fuck was the other thread deleted +--- 58078448 +>>58078266 +The other one got removed +--- 58078455 +>>58078100 (OP) +Exploitable +--- 58078456 +https://nitter.net/wartranslated/status/1654263136529141766 + +Full eng subs +--- 58078464 +>>58078455 +saved immediately +--- 58078466 +>>58078455 +Is that Walter White and Jessie Pinkman? +--- 58078491 +>>58078266 + +Forgive me, I came straight here from telegram to post it. +--- 58078493 +>>58078100 (OP) +Real life imitating memes as always. +--- 58078506 +>>58078484 +>mandickless the serb posting his BBC collection again +typical +--- 58078517 +>>58078484 +tactical advantage of posting nigger dick? +--- 58078519 +>>58078506 +They remind him of his ćevapčići he piles into his pork hole. +--- 58078522 +>>58078517 +theatricality and deception are powerful +--- 58078524 +>>58078466 +>YO MISTAH PROGIZHIN I DON'T THINK THIS CHARGE IS GONNA WORK AND WE NEED ACCURATE ARTILLEEY AND CAS +>JESSIYOVICH WE NEED TO HUMAN WAVE ASSAULT BAKHMUT, JUST ONE MORE WAVE ASSAULT JESSIYOVICH +--- 58078531 +>>58078517 +Look Priggo the wonderman and his field of dead Russians by the day might LOOK bad, but at least he can shock us with his collection of massive black dicks. Yes, that will change everyone's opinion about this. +--- 58078537 +>>58078524 +--- 58078546 +>>58078524 +(you) for effort +--- 58078576 +Why the fuck doesn't he get his PMC and march on Moscow. He could take over the thing and get the ammo he wants right then. Why can't he grease some palms? +--- 58078582 +>>58078556 +kek'd +--- 58078597 +>>58078556 +--- 58078602 +>>58078100 (OP) +>Where are the fucking shells!” +https://youtu.be/SDVWr93Z9Yc?t=35 [Embed] +--- 58078609 +How long until Wagner defects and becomes a new Free Russian Legion fighting on Ukraine's side? +--- 58078612 +>>58078576 +Because they were never truly "his". +--- 58078615 +>>58078100 (OP) +>https://files.catbox.moe/3txn3u.MP4 +He didn't censor himself with those beeps did he did you add the beeps you bitch? +--- 58078616 +>>58078609 +As soon as the Russian state stops lining Prigozhin's pockets, or if they have him gulag'd +--- 58078618 +>>58078609 +As soon as ukies promise them enough shells to last all the way to moscow +--- 58078629 +>>58078609 +I'm sure those hammer videos will make great resumes for them. +--- 58078630 +>>58078576 +Because he knows it wouldn't work. +Prigozhin is under the thumb of Putin and the Russian state, he can't really go against party lines without endangering his own life and giving up everything he has gained. +--- 58078635 +>>58078546 +LMAO +--- 58078645 +>>58078618 +I've always wondered this. Why haven't they tried to make Wagner defect. Think about it. If Russia loses, they're not going to be in a good position any more and chances are their semen supply will end with Putin. So why don't they do like mercenaries do and switch sides for a better option. If they switch now they could probably earn themselves some sort of leeway from all the war crimes and stuff they've done. Hand over a few 'examples' and say you've purged your criminal element. +--- 58078662 +>>58078645 +They could get paid better if they switched +--- 58078665 +>>58078609 +>>58078645 +>we've been going on for months about not taking and of your countrymen as prisoners or outright killing and torturing the ones we did take BUT PLEASE WE ACTUALLY WANT TO FIGHT FOR YOU NOW +--- 58078679 +>>58078546 +It looks like the little cutscenes that play on the map in Command and Conquer. +--- 58078685 +>>58078484 +MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!! +--- 58078702 +>>58078556 +My fucking sides +--- 58078709 +>>58078517 +shock and awe +--- 58078738 +>>58078556 +instant classic +--- 58078753 +Hahahahaha man this guy is pissed off, bakhmut is gonna be fully liberated from fagners, 100% + +Also the way he just casually shows the blown out faces of his own troops for PR purposes, complete disregard to their families or privacy etc. lmfao can you imagine this in any western military? +--- 58078812 +>>58078556 +keked and saved +--- 58078822 +>>58078645 +>wagner +>defect +Right now the best outcome if they defect is rotting in a prison for the rest of their lives, anon. Prigozhin would be hanged or put in ADX Florence. The best way to defeat Wagner is to kill so many of its mercenaries that it is forced to recruit from the regular Russian population, at which point you'll have a disastrous influence on the economy since you're not killing meatheaded prisoners anymore but accountants. + +Seriously. Wagner is a net positive, it's wasting people in such a retarded way you should actually prefer it existing over the equivalent number of Russian MRDs. +--- 58078834 +so what's their plan with this? Showing you're losing and have no supplies can't be good for morale. Is he hoping to foment a coupe? +--- 58078855 +>>58078630 + +Or the bitch could just defect and join the WINNING SIDE. +--- 58078860 +>>58078834 +It's a political stunt. There are going to be a lot of disgruntled and wounded vets and families with dead from this war. Prigozhin is establishing himself as a capable leader stabbed in the back by a corrupt MoD. +--- 58078865 +>>58078834 +Plan? You're seriously asking that on day 430+ of Putin's 3-day SMO? +--- 58078868 +>>58078834 +The only thing a Russian can't stand is their own embarrassment, you can insult him or hurt him but the moment you laugh is when he flinches. If he can't get shells then he'll embarrass anyone that's preventing it from happening. +--- 58078876 +>>58078100 (OP) +Mate, I know russians are the baddies but shit, how far lower the russian elite must go on the backstabbing department to the point Prigozhin has to make a video like this to try get some ammo, this is Red Alert levels of inner fighting, I thought it was some sort of fucking joke. +--- 58078882 +>>58078824 +lmao +--- 58078896 +>>58078753 + +Prozakobitch is just a mindless beast, making play he's still a man. +--- 58078898 +>>58078876 +That's the best part, they've been a consistent joke throughout history ever since the Mongol decided they didn't want to deal with them anymore. If anything the world has been waiting for the punchline of this joke for centuries now. +--- 58078908 +>>58078100 (OP) +--- 58078913 +>>58078898 + +Ukraine is far more dignified as a nation. Sit thy buttocks down, oh ye kindred spirits. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uyHWEOoPnM [Embed] +--- 58078922 +dang, look what I found in my K war meme folder. + +Shame that I didn't use this earlier +--- 58078928 +>>58078645 +Having Wagner on your side is a liability. They're more useful to Ukraine if they stay on Russia's side and destabilize things. A more competent and well-supplied army group might have gotten shit done in Bakhmut. +--- 58078937 +>>58078898 +I guess it finally came with everyone and their mother being capable to share these videos, still, mark my words, 20 years from now you will see contrarians telling everyone how this all was by the AI and the dates were tampered, there will be posts at the equivalent of /x/ just like nowadays you see all the schizos posting there. +--- 58078946 +>>58078922 +>green chroma with green uniforms +>.jpg +still funny +--- 58078948 +>>58078937 +It's already happening anon. If you think the proofs posting was bad in 2014 just wait until 2024. +--- 58078963 +>>58078928 + +A competent army wouldn't have bothered to keep attacking Bakhmut in the first place. It's a waste of time. +--- 58078980 +I open the door and all I see is corpses. +--- 58078995 +>>58078556 +Amazing +--- 58078996 +some good shit in this thread; i'd like to remind our ban-happy janny that this thread is somewhat relevant to the board, that it actually belongs here and not in the cesspool that is pol. +--- 58079002 +>>58078100 (OP) +>Why won't the Russian Federation support my illegal Private Military Company???? +--- 58079013 +>>58078922 +What's funnier is these guys are airsofters who likely bought that gear from some armorer looking to make a quick buck. Meaning its very likely that these two guys are the reason why two Russian soldiers had to go and buy their own gear. +--- 58079015 +>>58078963 +They're paid to fight in Bakhmut so they'll fight in Bakhmut. +--- 58079030 +>>58078844 +>>58078908 +10/10 +--- 58079039 +>>58078898 +>the world has been waiting for the punchline of this joke for centuries now. +After some 800 years of this shit, the punchline better be good. +--- 58079051 +>>58078100 (OP) +Prigozhin really does look like the Amerimutt memes that shitposters love so much. +--- 58079053 +>>58078100 (OP) +'jak on the 'log +--- 58079070 +>>58078645 +You're retarded. +--- 58079101 +>>58078434 +lol wut a faggot. + +the amount of shells he was asking for was higher than what the soviet union used in ww2 +--- 58079107 +>>58079015 + +Greed shouldn't be a reason for suicidal stupidity. +--- 58079110 +Was just a few days ago that Prigozhin was announcing they'd just found some massive weapons cache, that they could arm a million men with rifles or some such bullshit - Hard not to see this as a bit of a message or warning to the Kremlin... +--- 58079111 +>>58078100 (OP) +wait what happened to the 300k boxes? +--- 58079120 +>>58078645 +>why didn't the USA try to make Waffen-SS defect? +you're retarded. i hope to god youre not white. +--- 58079131 +>>58079111 +>>58079110 +based hivemind +--- 58079135 +>>58078876 +Real life Russia seem more comically retarded than RA2 Soviets. +--- 58079144 +>>58078434 +When is this faggot pidor gonna start acting like a man and take out shoigu? +--- 58079165 +what animu is this? +--- 58079173 +>>58079165 +>>58078980 +--- 58079183 +>>58078455 +HI IM PATRICK LANCASTER AJDH EIUHSBHWUDUDUCYKENEBCHEHWD +--- 58079184 +>>58078609 +TOP TEN ANIME BETRAYALS +--- 58079203 +How are they actually this subhuman +--- 58079212 +>>58079184 +Prigozhin is like a retarded version of big boss at this point. +--- 58079235 +>>58078100 (OP) +lol, what a fucking loser; he obviously thinks he's something special, that by doing dirty work for the state the rules don't apply to him and his mercenaries - he's wrong though, and the rules are just going to be applied with more severity, esp after all the threats and posturing. +him and his men aren't going to be going home, were never meant to last but simply expended, and i look forward to seeing what happens when he finally realizes this. +--- 58079249 +>>58079120 +>why didn't the USA try to make Waffen-SS defect? + +You joke but a bunch of the guards at the Nuremberg Trials were former Latvian and Estonian SS + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qcEFnGeZ6A [Embed] +--- 58079253 +Conspiracy Time: Prigozhin knows that showing 100 dead convinces will not change the opinions of the Russian MoD. But he IS trying to paint himself as a realist for the general public and/or anyone in the MoD who hates Shoigu and Gerasimov +--- 58079261 +>>58078100 (OP) +Do you think they made the cut? +--- 58079263 +Why does Monke tolerate this disorder? I get that he wants his minions always bickering and jostling with each other, but hasn't this guy been doomposting and attacking the official narrative for months now? +--- 58079265 +>>58079165 +>Decline Decline +Fucking kek +--- 58079266 +>>58078645 +Wasn't Wagner responsible for brutalizing Ukrainian villages? I think anyone would get shitcanned for even suggesting that. +--- 58079273 +>>58078824 +What was Luka thing broadcasting the invasion plans on TV? +--- 58079277 +>>58079263 + +This is what Hitler did too. He played his subordinates against each other so they were so busy fighting amongst themselves that they wouldn't even think of taking on the big guy. +--- 58079285 +>>58078100 (OP) +guy is gonna get clipped for sure before this war is over +--- 58079295 +Hokage of abscent ammunition village +--- 58079300 +>>58079295 +not bad, not bad at all +--- 58079301 +>>58079253 +It's not even a conspiracy he's very clearly setting up a stab in the back narrative. +--- 58079306 +>>58078100 (OP) +Isn't HE the one mindlessly shoving random convicts into artillery fire? +--- 58079318 +>>58079306 +the hohols and shoigu made him do it, pls understand +--- 58079334 +>>58079263 +Putin tried to mediate and he resolved the previous ammosupply issue by sitting them together but it looks like the military guys are more powerful that one thinks not even putin has the power to make them give ammo to his buddy. +--- 58079345 +>>58078556 +>>58078455 + +Another anon in another thread added on the guy on the right +--- 58079346 +>>58079306 +he's a fucking cook that knows shit about warfare and surrounds himself with yes men +just like putin +--- 58079371 +>>58079306 +He's trying to get ahead of being used as the scapegoat for Putin's failures. He knows that, as soon as they can do an organized retreat, he's going to be arrested and thrown to the wolves to try and save face. He's not as buddy-buddy with Putin as Shoigu, so he's only got a PR blitz keeping himself fully in focus keeping him alive and out of the Hague. +--- 58079399 +>>58078100 (OP) +Is it wrong that I respect him? Say what you want about him but at least he's right there in the shit experiencing the gruesome reality of war firsthand, unlike 'Basedgun, Cuckasimov and le Pussia monki who are too cowardly to even set foot in eastern Ukraine. Meanwhile Prigozhin is right there in the frontline, Piggers could arty him anytime and he still risks it. +--- 58079404 +>muh heckin maymays +Meanwhile Ukraine is losing. +--- 58079415 +>>58079404 +>rshtb +--- 58079416 +>>58079404 +Two more weeks right? +--- 58079417 +>>58079399 +He's literally Putins PR man, it's wrong because you are falling for his low hanging propaganda bullshit. +--- 58079435 +>>58079404 +>Ukraine loses territory temporarily +meanwhile +>Russia loses respect forever +--- 58079441 +>>58079435 +The world now knows that Russia is not a serious threat and should be laughed at. +--- 58079445 +>>58078100 (OP) +Imagine if there were newsreel footage of Heydrich screaming at the camera and demanding shells from Hitler. +--- 58079455 +>>58078100 (OP) +It's obviously not going to work. The one thing Russians truly don't give a fuck about is human life. He'll get more people to feed the grinder with, but not shells. +Should have set up a field of washing machines of kitchen appliances instead. +>see those beauties boys? If I was given the shells I needed there could have been 4 times as many washing machines in this field now +He'd have a shell surplus within 2 days. +--- 58079456 +>>58079417 +> you are falling for his low hanging propaganda bullshit. + +Pussian propaganda falls into two camps, old style Soviet denial of reality (we're winning, we have lost less than 1000 men!) and Qoomer style schizophrenia (we had to liberate Ukraine to destroy the HATO biolabs!). This is neither, seems more like a spur of the moment venting. +--- 58079457 +>>58079345 +Saved +--- 58079460 +this thread along with the last are pure gold +--- 58079477 +my favorite content creator +--- 58079481 +>>58078100 (OP) +>Where are the fucking shells! +--- 58079488 +>>58078100 (OP) +Vlad Dracula here keeps flapping his flabby lips, but all I'm hearing is "whinge! whinge! whinge!" +Either die in a ditch or go home in disgrace, Prickgozhin. Either fate is fine with me. +--- 58079489 +>>58079481 +--- 58079492 +>>58079277 +its a common thing in movies etc too.they are all getting played by an old man who is getting played by his own delusions and they refuse to /cant see it.putin isnt like stalin or hitler but rather like Palpatine since he cares even less about his underlings than these two.is putin even alive anymore this point or just a roleplay created by the fsb? +--- 58079504 +>>58079039 +>Russia finally collapses +>all the vatniks are dead +>a guy walks onto stage +>does jazz hands +>"The Aristocrats!" +--- 58079508 +>>58078100 (OP) +>Shoigu! Gerasimov! Where are the fucking shells! +as a fellow private mercenary company owner, I have to say, Prigozhin should've really seen this one coming +--- 58079512 +Reference + +https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/58066536/#58068558 +--- 58079513 +>>58079235 +>>58079371 +Didn't Priggy literally get un-personed by Russian TV and media? Like they were supposed to not even mention him. +How is he going to get his narrative out when nobody even sees him outside tg? +--- 58079518 +>>58079513 +>How is he going to get his narrative out when nobody even sees him outside tg? +I mean, its working, we're talking about it right now.. +--- 58079532 +>>58079416 +>invent imaginary deadline +>act smug when it isnt met +Meanwhile Ukraine is losing. +--- 58079540 +>>58079532 +bro the 2nd most important commander in this war for the russian side is begging for help in front of a field of corpses, we are not seeing the same things +--- 58079546 +>>58079532 +>Meanwhile Ukraine is losing. +--- 58079560 +>>58079532 +>invent imaginary deadline +there is no scenario where not being able to win is a good thing for an invading army in the entire human history +--- 58079575 +>>58079546 +>get teabagged IRL by a drone +Lol, and furthermore, lmao +--- 58079582 +>>58079540 +>commander +There's that imagination at work again. +--- 58079595 +>>58078434 +Going to have some fun edits with this one.Satellite dead vatnigger storage. +--- 58079597 +>>58079582 +are you saying Prigozhin is there just for show? +--- 58079602 +>>58079560 +>hasnt won = not able to win +Brilliant minds of /k/. +--- 58079604 +Verification not required. +--- 58079605 +>>58079582 +imagine russia as a world power faggot +--- 58079614 +>>58078434 +Heaven forbid you post this in /pol/, chuggers on suicide watch +--- 58079616 +>>58079518 +We won't make any difference tho? His target audience should be the Russian population, the babushkas who support Putin and the war. + +Heck even if he has the full support of the patriotic Russians back home, its probably still not enough to save him. History is filled with generals who get ACKd despite their popularity. +--- 58079617 +>>58079346 +>cook +Guy is a massive mafia boss lmao the catering is just the money launder cover for stuff that is even worse than Wagner. +--- 58079629 +>>58079546 +>a soldier died +I'll let the Kremlin know. +--- 58079633 +>>58078556 +kek +--- 58079635 +>>58079235 +Some prisoners already returned to Russia, and were arrested again for murder. +--- 58079645 +>>58079635 +The most ironic part of this is that not every prisoner dies in Ukraine and the ones that don't get MC Hammered just wind up increasing the crime rates. +--- 58079664 +hes bazed. that turkic general clearly works for turkey's turan project by not supplying this guy. +--- 58079704 +>>58079532 +--- 58079711 +>>58079635 +only way prigo is going home is in a bodybag. +--- 58079776 +>>58079184 +WOOOOOHAAAAAA +--- 58079803 +>>58078455 +Igor, send the next wave! +The Monke Demands it!! +--- 58079844 +>>58079051 +It's always been projection +--- 58079845 +>>58079039 +>US invades Russia, total nuclear disarmament (as if Russia had any working nukes left) +>doesn't want to deal with the massive pain of occupying the world's largest country +>hands it over to Mongolia, since they're on the border and haven't been total jackasses +>ghengis khan smiles in his grave +--- 58079875 +>>58078556 +excellent +--- 58079906 +>>58079845 +All according to plan +--- 58079907 +>>58079845 +>Year 2025 +>Zelenskyy becomes supreme leader of Russia +just imagine the vatnik butt devastation +--- 58079914 +>>58079492 +Comparing Putin to Sheev is an insult to Palpatine +--- 58079968 +>>58079907 +Something tells me he's probably tired sick of being a politician at this point and would rather get back to being a comedian as soon as reasonably possible. +--- 58080029 +>>58079914 +True palpatine actually got shit done. Putin is more like Megatron. Starting shit for no reason, getting betrayed by incompetent subordinates, and never straying far from the status quo. +--- 58080065 +I'm looking at this and trying to envision Schwarzkopf standing over a pile of dead convicts organized into a poorly trained penal battalion to supplement American losses in Desert storm, with said convicts having just been decimated by the Iraqi Republican Guard, and him screaming for Bush Sr. to send more shells. +This war is beyond cartoonish. +--- 58080096 +>>58079144 +>faggot faggot +what? +--- 58080133 +>>58079460 +>Foolish NATO doesnt recognize Nurgles gifts when he sees it +--- 58080150 +>>58079914 +true,palpatine knew that prosperity was the key to keep the common man on his side.Putin never did hogged all the wealth with his friends.putin is a just a thief by comparison that never built anything. +--- 58080160 +>>58080096 +Pedo faggot then, pidor +--- 58080177 +>>58079489 +God-damn, I hate double Windsor knots. Makes you look like an 8-year-old wearing daddies tie, and looks like a bib. +--- 58080186 +>>58078100 (OP) +Why does he think he's owed shells? Isn't Wagner a PMC? +--- 58080196 +>>58078466 +Walter Non-white and Jesse Slavman +--- 58080197 +>>58079508 +Can you confirm that state militaries that you are employed to will disregard friendly fire warnings and mishaps? +--- 58080271 +"MUH SHELLS" +>muh shells +This expression indicates the Wagnerite's confusion and lack of understanding. When confronted with a town or a base he can not conquer, Wagnerites mumble "muh shells" or "muh fuggin shells Shoigu muhfugga". This is usually followed by homosexual rape and beheadings. +--- 58080281 +>>58080196 +My sides. lmao +--- 58080291 +So what's the next piece of this guy's clown act after standing over multiple fields of his own dead begging for munitions. +--- 58080307 +I can't even tell what level of psy-op we're at with this guy and fagner anymore. I refuse to believe the higher ups in the Kremlin have 0 control over what he says and posts online. +--- 58080309 +>>58080291 +Seeing a Ukie pissing into a trench through his binoculars, calling it the counteroffensive, and pulling his people out before the 9th. Then promptly fucking off into hiding. +--- 58080319 +>>58078524 +--- 58080338 +>>58080307 +Yeah Prigozhin is taking a different stroke compared to totally-not-controlled-opposition Igor Girkin. I don't think Prigozhin has ever directly called out Putin, but has made plenty of subtle digs at the leadership, which makes it far more intriguing. The barking dog don't bite and all that. +--- 58080379 +>>58079635 +>be murderous psychopath +>commit murder +>see some fucked up shit because of it, scars you for life +>get to RUSSIAN supermax +>see even WORSE fucked up shit that scars you for life and makes you more mentally unstable +>long story short, end up in Ukraine, part of wagner +>see even WORSE fucked up shit than the prison that scars you for life + +>russia lets you back into regular society after this + +lmao what +--- 58080400 +>>58079404 +>>58079532 +Vatniks literally cannot handle seeing anything that makes their side look remotely bad, even silly, pointless internet images. If he'd just said nothing no one would've known how much this shit bothers him, but now everyone in the thread knows these memes are making him uncomfortable. +--- 58080426 +>>58079546 +this shit was foul... +like damn, i have no problem killing an enemy either but he got the warfare equivalent of getting a big dick and nuts dragged across his face while he was bleeding to death + +maybe war really is hell +--- 58080458 +>>58078100 (OP) +>censor the suka blyat but not the gore +god I hate these nigger puritans +--- 58080466 +>>58078517 +thug shaking ritual, america will have another intel leak and thus Rossiya will win through their love of nigger dick +--- 58080477 +>>58078100 (OP) +why do Russian nationalists act sorta defeatist like Pickle and Prigozhin? +is it their way of trying to get the Russian people to demand total war? +--- 58080480 +>>58080466 +So what great benefit did they get out of the last one. +--- 58080495 +>>58080477 +Power play. They want vatnigs to see them as heroes fighting for the motherland, and the leadership as incompetent retards that need replaced by them. +--- 58080502 +>>58078100 (OP) +>these are just the ones that died today +pidorstan just keeps winning so hard, zisters +--- 58080506 +>>58080502 +--- 58080514 +>>58080480 +uuuuh they got to do poor shops of infographics and pretend they were winning until the real one showed they were losing the K:D ration 1:4 +--- 58080519 +>>58080426 +>maybe war really is hell +21st century peer warfare seems more like a macabre meme clown show riding on mr. bones' wild ride. +--- 58080522 +>>58080506 +The tooth gap really doesn't help play down his cartoonish evil guy look. +--- 58080537 +>>58080506 +What's this slavic Voldemort knockoff shouting at me for? +--- 58080541 +>>58078100 (OP) +I got a better screencap +--- 58080544 +>>58078100 (OP) +it's well past the time this nigga should have been silenced +they don't need to poison him, merely threaten him to stop embarassing the Russian forces but in russian fashion they just might kill him instead +--- 58080560 +>>58080506 +>monke putin vs gremlin prigozhin + +Fight of the century right here. +--- 58080562 +>>58080150 +>palpatine knew that prosperity was the key to keep the common man on his side +Common men rebelled because Palps did exactly the opposite of that. Biggs in the ANH novelization talks about the Empire rapidly seizing privately owned land and businesses on Tatooine. +--- 58080575 +>>58080560 +>implying he already didn't get a head start +Where shells? +--- 58080577 +lol lmao +--- 58080588 +>>58080575 +I do wonder what would have happened if he actually showed up for that "debate" they were supposed to have with each other. +--- 58080594 +>>58078455 +>>58079345 + +>when you advance 5 meters in a week and only costed you 700 soldiers +--- 58080605 +>>58080588 +Too bad that doesn't properly translate. It's: Giving shells to a homeless person expectations vs reality. +>Thank you kind sir +>More (poorly spelled) +--- 58080614 +>>58080577 +>russkies absolutely *hate* being laughed at +>rather than act like super srs masters of warfare, they act like comical evil retards +Do they understand how retarded and funny their antics look, or do they lack the higher cognitive functions to get it? +--- 58080615 +>>58080605 +Would probably be better explained if it was spelled "Moore" or "Moare". +--- 58080635 +>>58080588 +>>58080605 +>>58080615 +I like how regardless of the outcome he's still looking like a dunce in both cases. +--- 58080646 +>>58080615 + +The classical internet spelling is "MOAR" +--- 58080651 +>>58080588 +>>58080605 +Is calling Wagner homeless/bums also a meme I've seen it before +--- 58080671 +>>58080646 +Yeah, this is just someone that's supposed to be half illiterate trying to spell it though. +--- 58080680 +>>58079253 +He knows how this war is going to end, he's just trying to set himself up for when that happens. His mentions of getting into politics, trying to play friendly with Zelensky, talking about ending the war. He's trying to paint a narrative around Shoigu and the rest of the standard Russian military so they can be the fall guys. Going after Putin directly is too dangerous, but Shoigu is fair game. +--- 58080689 +>>58080605 +kek, thanks for the translation, way funnier. +--- 58080724 +...and scene +Also not my problem + +Did you know that Shoigu has his own private military named Patriot which is actually competing with Wagner? lol all i know Shoigu et all would be more than happy if Wagner get killed off completely while other private companies and Russian military storm in and get all the fame after Bakhmut finally falls +--- 58080799 +I can't wait to read books by soldiers on both sides of the conflict one day. Especially any by some Wagner survivors. +--- 58080805 +>>58080680 +Yup. I've seen this playbook before. Next he'll be writing a book called "My Struggle": + +1. Mentions Wagner will no longer be fighting but "will continue". Likely trying to turn Wagner into his personal SS. Uses crude symbolism like hammers and skull patches. +2. Says there are no Nazis in Ukraine. Compliments Zelensky. Says the war needs to end. Pushes himself as "pro peace" +3. Displayed his patriotic credentials by forming PMC and using "his own money" to fight on behalf of Russia +4. Burnished his military credentials by leveraging prisoners and shells into battlefield "successes". Made repeated, early, calls to action to prevent Ukraine counter offensive. +5. Allied himself with some military figures from Syria to have internal, military allies +6. Disparaged Shoigu and Gerasimov publicly multiple times to lower their perceived status and giving him an excuse for battlefield stagnation. +7. Has tried to exit the Ukraine conflict before the losing starts. +8. Has his own mil bloggers pushing Wagner, Wagner, Wagner every day and twice on Sunday into the info sphere +9. Sends hammers and does other bullshit internationally to present himself as tough + +The whole thing is an act. Maybe he'll get slapped down, but watch out if he ever gets some FSB or security service allies to go along with his pet Generals. +--- 58080818 +Yeah I’m not sure how showing some ~30 mutilated Russian corpses in a video begging for ammunition is going to play to the whole “we are totally winning guys” narrative. +--- 58080831 +>>58078100 (OP) +>you think you have the right to dispose of their [Wagner fighters] lives +Ukraine have all the rights to dispose of this scum btw. +--- 58080832 +>>58079120 +Waffen-SS aren't a PMC. Also, as somebody already said, they were made guards and shit kek. +--- 58080836 +>>58080818 +There's four rows by ten, so at least forty killed +--- 58080839 +>>58080818 +If he intends to run away from the bus coming towards him, might as well throw a couple people under the wheels while he runs. He doesn't care about their "the bus is not a danger, no panic" narrative +--- 58080847 +>>58080805 +Wagner was always used by the FSB, not the other way around. +--- 58080850 +>>58079111 +>>58079110 +Because the boxes he claimed to find were small arms and appeared to be WW2 surplus. His issue isn't with small arms or ammo for them. His issue is he can no longer spend 10,000 shells a day bombing Bakhmut and then sending in waves to finish off the reeling troops. He now has to send in troops to guys who haven't been shelled to shit and are still relatively in one piece. This means more deaths. Priggy doesn't care. He just wants to keep slapping those in charge because Russia respects strongmen and if he looks 'strong' by insulting the top dogs then he seems like an idea candidate to take over if Russia loses/Putin dies. Same shit with Girkhin telling Putin to shut up. They're both basically untouchable and look strong for the retarded population. +--- 58080851 +>>58078100 (OP) +WAIT A SEC, at first I thought these were dead Ukrainians. But these are dead ruzzkies. +--- 58080857 +>>58078609 +0% +Not because I like them but because they've done too much bad shit to get off anyone's shit list +If they defect the only thing they're going to is the Hauge +--- 58080859 +>>58078645 +The better/older/ OG Wagner guys have been picking up more jobs in Africa. Especially in Mali and sudan. + +Probably so they can just say ugh I was fighting for Russia just in Africa ! I was doing great while the others lost +--- 58080865 +>>58080594 +>costed +--- 58080872 +>>58078100 (OP) +Seems kinda based of him. +Most of you faggots wound never oppose your waggie managers let alone a dictator in a totalitarian society in real life. You all just fall back upon what your ancestors did in 1776. +--- 58080873 +>>58080680 +The rootless cosmopolitan drops the mask yet again. +--- 58080877 +Yesterday a russian was trying to convince me it's the NATO which run out of ammo. +--- 58080881 +>>58080872 +Are you ruzzkie, pidor? +--- 58080884 +>>58080872 +trying and failing to win the war the manlet tsar started isnt really opposition +--- 58080885 +>>58080805 +I'm more with Katz on this one in that Prigo has to scream at the camera and do loads of PR because he's losing his power - pre-invasion few people knew what the fucker sounded like, but at the same time had zero issue getting what he needed, be it a juicy construction contract or jets for his beloved fagner. Now he has to go on telegram tirades because he lost preferential shell treatment, so he could actually get some attention from the actual higher brass. +--- 58080890 +>>58078100 (OP) +>>58078455 +gems +--- 58080893 +>>58079614 +>Heaven forbid you post this in /pol/, chuggers on suicide watch +Or post it on /pol/ in /uhg/ to celibate it? Everyone crossposts here faggot. Fuck Israel btw, death to it actually. +--- 58080895 +>>58080872 +>You all just fall back upon what your ancestors did in 1776. +Getting two superpowers in Spain and France, along with Netherlands to give you tens of thousands of troops and bankrupt themselves winning you a war that then allowed the British to take over the planet and you immediately spat in your 'allies' faces and started attacking them? + +Seems very Russian, really. Soviet, specifically. Sending Ukrainians to die and then saying 'you' won. +--- 58080901 +>>58080177 +all you ever need is a full windsor and to not buy a fuckhuge and supremely tacky tie that's 8 inches wide. +--- 58080902 +>>58080881 +Yes, MIDF actually. +--- 58080904 +>>58080865 +Not the same anon, but weirdly, this is the second time in a week I've have to explain to someone on /k/ that "costed" is the past tense of "cost" and it is a word. Most people would have phrased it "The advance was costed at 700 soldiers per 5M". or used it in a different way like: "It would have costed them less if they had tried earlier the war". Apparently Canadians use it more than Americans. +--- 58080906 +>>58079253 +Didn't he just "find" 300,000 crates of intact soviet equipment in perfect condition, ready to be used? +--- 58080912 +>>58079295 +Good, Prigozhin, you look kind of cool. +--- 58080916 +>>58080895 +I cant trace my ancestry to the original colonists to be frank. + +Are fags who say they trance genes to the revolution even still exist? +--- 58080923 +>>58080872 +says the obedient cattle going into meatgrinder for bunker coward's megayachts and palaces, fight to the last russian +--- 58080930 +>>58079120 +Rosguardiya is Putin's discount SS. +--- 58080931 +>>58078466 +It looks more like hank and jesse, but I see the resemblance +--- 58080934 +>>58079101 +the fun fact is untill recently he got all the shells he wanted. He cries and bitches now because they started giving him the same amounts of artillery munitions as the rest of the Ork army. +--- 58080941 +Why no webm with an actual translation yet? +What is the fear? +--- 58080943 +>>58079399 +>he's right there in the shit experiencing the gruesome reality of war firsthand +No he's not lmao +--- 58080947 +>>58080506 +VHG, TRVE SAVIOR OF VITE RACE +--- 58080953 +>>58079399 +>Is it wrong that I respect him? +>>58080872 +>Seems kinda based of him. +Is this the russian agenda about this dude? Respect, based what else? +--- 58080958 +>>58079399 +Your IQ is very low, he's not experiencing shit +--- 58080982 +>>58079399 +I would respect a webm of him getting droned. +--- 58080990 +>>58079492 +>omg it's just like in my heckin star wars movies! +--- 58081005 +>>58079513 +Before the internet things were different. +This will get spread around the world. It makes his superiors look corrupt and incompetent (which they are). +Of course the moment his usefulness runs out he's a dead man. +--- 58081037 +>>58078100 (OP) +Where's the fucking shell Shoigowski? Where's the fucking shell? +--- 58081045 +>>58080271 + +Did the best I could +--- 58081059 +>>58078100 (OP) +>look at them, they died so you can embezzle more money for your yachts and mansions +>now where are my shells, so I can kill more people who wants to have nothing to do with you? +--- 58081068 +>>58081037 +>Where's the fucking shell? +Here shells. Now CHARGE!!! +--- 58081070 +>>58081045 +Thanks man, kek'd +--- 58081110 +>>58081068 +For a second, i thought bottom right was canned mackerel. +--- 58081115 +Angry Prigozhin is best Prigozhin. +--- 58081140 +>>58081115 +No, the best prigozin would be tea bagged by a drone. +--- 58081158 +>WHERE THE FUCK IS MY AMMO +--- 58081177 +Someone make a version with the Bakhmut cat +--- 58081178 +>>58078100 (OP) +>>58078434 +I have the utmost respect for Prigozhin. He has balls of steel to call out the corruption in Russia. 100% chad. +--- 58081184 +>>58081178 +Are you puccian? +>>58080953 +--- 58081192 +>>58079441 +This. +Let's give it another year to be sure and then, if no nuke flew in impotent rage, we should put the dog down and get back to our lives. +--- 58081194 +lmao +--- 58081195 +what is his endgame? +does he really want the polonium tea that badly? +--- 58081208 +>>58081070 +--- 58081209 +>>58078928 +>Having Wagner on your side is a liability. They're more useful to Ukraine if they stay on Russia's side and destabilize things +t. retard + +Wagner is the most capable fighting force on the Russian side right now, as they are generally extremely well supplied and trained. They are paid much more than regular army (which already has an insane many fold pay rise for participation in the war), but are also sent to the worst locations like Bakhmut to essentially shovel shit, whilst taking on losses as private contractor and therefore making Russian Army involvement look much cleaner on paper. + +The whole meme about Prigozhin crying for ammo is literally for the sake of him getting more funding and more free shit. They are already paid so much that they are suppose to provide their own equipment and munitions. +He is exploiting situation to the best of his ability for financial and political gains +--- 58081211 +>>58079481 +imagine having this much money and not owning a warship +--- 58081218 +>>58081115 + +Fuck it + +Write it on a shell. +--- 58081220 +>>58080805 +is this board exclusively populated by 15 year olds or something? +--- 58081229 +>>58080400 +>they are stupid +>uses bullpup +--- 58081231 +>>58081209 +>as they are generally extremely well supplied and trained +They're so well supplied their slave master had to record a video begging for more ammo. +Well, I wonder how bad the situation for poorly supplied russians then. +--- 58081234 +>>58081209 +I don't agree with that other anon saying having Wagner on your side is a liability, but are you still sure Wagner is the most capable fighting force that Russia has? Maybe a year ago, but it seems like a lot of their experienced members have been churned out and replaced with fresh mobiks by now. Also seems like a lot of the surviving guys with actual experience are fucking off to Africa. +--- 58081246 +>>58081209 +>Wagner is the most capable fighting force on the Russian side right now +He was given carte blanche on soldiers and ammunition, own aircrafts and support of VDV and remains of LPR forces. +After 4 or 5 months he managed to take Soledar and lost 100k soldiers(per USA figures), in what fucking world is that considered "capable fighting force" +--- 58081285 +>>58081231 +Maybe actually finish reading before you reply next time. The whole send me more shit thing is almost always a scheme for stealing some shit. The more stuff he gets sent, the more stuff he can stash at his warehouses and the less stuff he actually has to use of his own. + +>but are you still sure Wagner is the most capable fighting force that Russia has +Relatively. In comparison to regular army, they would be. Obviously FSB's Alpha and Vympel or any Special groups of almost all government branches are more capable, but Wagner has 20k men who are much less accountable for, as such can be more efficient. + +>surviving guys with actual experience are fucking off to Africa +They are protecting precious stone mines in Africa. You don't need most experienced there to ward off local warlords with soviet era tactics and weaponry. + +>replaced with fresh mobiks +probably true, but they'd be mixing their regiments to have fresh blood go along with experienced and combat tested veterans. +Syria was relatively tame and they had a lot of time to train a large force with experience there. +--- 58081291 +>>58080805 +>Yup. I've seen this playbook before. Next he'll be writing a book called "My Struggle": +>a fucking Jewish hot dog salesman is going to be this century's Hitler + +Goddamn you're retarded. You know what? Fuck it. This war has already teleported us all into bizarro nightmare world like six million times already. Might as well do it again. + +What you say is completely retarded, and is thus completely believable. + +>>58080836 +>it's EVEN WORSE + +Jesus Fucking Christ, you know how many times I've had to say this to myself about Russia just in the past two days? +--- 58081318 +>>58081246 +>lost 100k soldiers +Entire Wagner is like 20k soldiers including everyone overseas in Africa. There are some articles about 50k, but thats kind of not believable. They almost exclusively recruit from army vets, with exception of those prisoner death squads. Unless a whole bunch of Russian soldiers with experienced renegotiated to get a higher paying contract with Wagner in the last few months, there is no way they have so much. + +They also don't really need to aggressively storm the front line, extending supply lines thin and leaving gaps in defense by encircling cities like they have before. They are in a comfortable position now. +--- 58081319 +>>58081246 +>in what fucking world is that considered "capable fighting force" +when compared to the rest of the Russian army that's not so bad. At least they captured some territory, be it a backwater village with no strategic value. +--- 58081326 +>>58081285 +>The whole send me more shit thing is almost always a scheme for stealing some shit. The more stuff he gets sent, the more stuff he can stash at his warehouses and the less stuff he actually has to use of his own. +This theory sounds beyond idiotic. So what you're saying russian military commander follow this dudes commands via whatsup? +>They are protecting precious stone mines in Africa. You don't need most experienced there to ward off local warlords with soviet era tactics and weaponry. +Weren't they driven off? +>fresh blood go along with experienced and combat tested veterans +I heard their "experience" forces expires a year ago. +>Syria was relatively tame and they had a lot of time to train a large force with experience there. +Like when they had a single combat encounter and lost all men? +--- 58081327 +>>58078100 (OP) +Is this what the internet subculture calls "virtue signaling"? +--- 58081329 +>>58081319 +Russian army before that captured Severodonetsk and Lysychansk +--- 58081330 +>>58081318 + +50k is what they raised when the Russian prison system was opened up for recruitment back in September. + +It's back to 20k now. +--- 58081332 +>>58081318 +>They almost exclusively recruit from army vets +No they don't. I saw an invitation today from fagner that said no military service required. They recruit every man who wants to join, this is why they're literally death squads. +--- 58081352 +>>58081332 +>no military service required + +Think about it, all the neverserveds finally have a chance to prove how they're REAL MEN. + +No more sitting on their fat asses eating Cheetos and complaining about the US Army is too woke and run by Jews to bother even applying to MEPS for. Finally they have a proper based and TRAD army they sign up for, no questions asked! +--- 58081356 +>>58081352 +Yeah, you can clearly see these real men in op pic. +--- 58081357 +>>58081318 +>They almost exclusively recruit from army vets +I've recently watched mini-documentary made by guy in Russia who was photographic new graves and publish them online because local government was hiding that from fucking relatives. Almost all the graves were ex-Wagnerites and local gravedigger who had no military experience said he will likely join Wagner to support his family. +They might have recruited ex soldiers before war started but now they will accept anyone with a heartbeat +--- 58081382 +>>58081326 +>This theory sounds beyond idiotic. So what you're saying russian military commander follow this dudes commands via whatsup +I don't think you understand how these things work in Eastern Europe and other corrupt places. Makes me wonder why you even bother to argue with others whilst knowing so little. + +It's the same story with ATGMs that USA supplied to Ukraine that were then found on sale on darknet and overseas. They always ask for more, use some and try to take a portion of that on the side and resell or in Wagner's case just store it until they find use for it. This is military equipment and munitions worth millions and it's Eastern Europe. + +>I heard their "experience" forces expires a year ago. +>Like when they had a single combat encounter and lost all men? +You mean that time when they lost 200 soldiers whilst getting bombed in the desert? It's not that much in retrospective to times when us soldiers incurred similar losses in Iraq in certain situations. +These fuckups happen and 200 men barely make up for thousands that went through Syria and pre-2022 Ukraine operations +--- 58081408 +>>58081332 +>I saw an invitation today from fagner that said no military service required. They recruit every man who wants to join, this is why they're literally death squads +I would comment on that, but I don't wanna get spammed with replies of you know what insults. +I'll just say this. It's kind of unusual that someone would randomly get a letter saying join Wagner. You're either on a list to be a potential recruit, meaning they would address letter to you or already know you have training or experience. Alternatively did they just send those letters to everyone in the country? It kind of sounds like a meme, but for the sake of the thread, I won't call it non genuine +--- 58081413 +>>58078546 +>[INCOMING TRANSMISSION] +--- 58081419 +>>58081357 +>They might have recruited ex soldiers before war started but now they will accept anyone with a heartbeat +If thats true, it is kind of an interesting system that worked out there. With no proper mobilisation relying on volunteers who just join for the money. It's a certain kind of social lift whilst keeping responsibility away from the government. +--- 58081420 +>>58081408 +Wagner even visits schools trying to get recruits. +--- 58081421 +>>58081382 +>Makes me wonder why you even bother to argue with others whilst knowing so little. +So you're connected to fagner and know how things are going out there, sure. I've seen a shitton of whistleblowers here, except all of them were fake. BUT THIS TIME! +>It's the same story with ATGMs that USA supplied to Ukraine that were then found on sale on darknet and overseas +Sorry, If I read this first I would ignore you, since it was fake, but you say as if it's true. Bye, ruzzkie. +--- 58081431 +Why does this bald retard keep taking videos of dead fagner and posting it online? isn't that horrible opsec? like wont that just make russoids think damn maybe this SMO isnt a good idea? +--- 58081447 +>>58081421 +>So you're connected to fagner and know how things are going out there, sure. I've seen a shitton of whistleblowers here, except all of them were fake. BUT THIS TIME! +No, I'm just Russian, so I know how things work in Russia. You have to have lived there for a long time to understand that. It's a completely different system that basically encourages efficiency with corruption as reward. If you are effective at your job, the corruption is overlooked. If you are not, they make a scapegoat of you and you go to jail for it. +> I've seen a shitton of whistleblowers here +I never actually read those tg text articles or the news articles above the main headline. They all have their own agenda and the truth is obfuscated 100 times. Just look on both sides to see what's real in between what BBC and RT say instead of cherry-picking your one side and constantly eating up all propaganda of le good guys and bad guys. + + >since it was fake +If you say so. Did you read it on Snopes? +--- 58081457 +>>58081431 +He's PMC leader, unlike military commander he's not responsible to anyone for deaths. Which is why he can show as much dead as possible and then blame it on MoD. +Whole situation is still horrible for Russia because it undermines MoD and army to strengthen Prigozhin(look, he's not afraid to show losses, what a straight to the point guy, even retarded morons here say this), which creates more rivalry,feuds, backstabbing +--- 58081472 +>>58081447 +>so I know how things work in Russia +Every time I hear this... +>If you say so. Did you read it on Snopes? +Do you have the source? Otherwise I consider it fake. +--- 58081479 +>>58081194 +--- 58081481 +>>58081178 +He IS the corruption, anon, that's what he's been doing his whole life and that's how he got to the high place in the first place. He's just mad that he's currently being fucked over instead of him fucking over others. +--- 58081483 +>>58081447 +>. Just look on both sides to see what's real in between what BBC and RT say +Such a fucking typical russhit subhuman "BOTH SIDES" talking point. There is nothing of value to be gained, no information to be recieved from browsing RT and some other gay propaganda hole you subhumans use. At most they are entertaining in their retardation, and can be screencapped to make fun of your diseased culture. Kill yourself. +--- 58081486 +>>58080506 +el abominacion... +--- 58081495 +>>58081045 +great job, saved +--- 58081501 +>>58081447 +I see that you're russian, since you advertise a fake news factory like RT. +>Just look on both sides to see what's real in between what BBC and RT +Why would I want to look at BBC, which is mostly correct and RT, which is like 95% lies and propaganda? +--- 58081506 +>>58081457 +>Whole situation is still horrible for Russia because it undermines MoD and army to strengthen Prigozhin +The public prefers it that way. When people are not drafted in the military and it's all this meme pmc leader fighting the war for them, it makes the whole situation seems more tolerable. +--- 58081513 +>>58081045 +gold +--- 58081519 +>>58081178 +its just putin's pets (prig. vs military faction, he also have beef with st.petersburg governor) shitting on each other to get more attention and prig. is just more loud and unfilitered about it, thats it. if he was actually caring about corruption he would've done something about it decade ago and called out big monke himself instead of larping as warlord +--- 58081536 +>>58081472 +>Do you have the source? Otherwise I consider it fake. +My source is knowing that Ukraine is an even more corrupt shithole than Russia and there's been countless reports of lendlease shit being sold on the side or found in places where it doesn't belong and those are just reports/stories we heard of. +If you unironically believe that 100% of equipment is utilised as intended and there is no corruption less "you show me source from the source that I approve", you're probably deluding yourself a little too much. Please stop shilling so aggressively. We all know everyone is shit +--- 58081544 +>>58081483 +t. average "le western news that never lied to you" reader +--- 58081547 +Imagine all the cats who will feast on dead Wagnerites tonight. +--- 58081557 +>>58078100 (OP) +>>58079165 +>>58078455 +>>58078556 +>>58078824 +>>58078908 +>>58079345 +>>58079604 +>>58080506 +>>58080878 +>>58081045 +>>58081479 +This war is just the gift that keeps on fucking giving. +--- 58081563 +>>58081536 +>knowing that Ukraine is an even more corrupt shithole than Russia +You don't know shit or you lie like the dirty russian you are. This war has proven beyond doubt the opposite or there wouldn't have been a war in the first place. +--- 58081565 +>>58081501 +>Why would I want to look at BBC, which is mostly correct and RT, which is like 95% lies and propaganda? +https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60698414 + +If your truth is state enforced children gender re-assignment surgeries and other faggy shit, then sure. + +You're the average 80iq brainlet of "my government would never lie to me" + +More brainwashed than average Russian or Ukranian. +--- 58081572 +>>58081544 +You subhumans always have trouble with this. The fact that western media gets things wrong and sometimes lie, does not mean that some russhit telegram hole or fucking RT is as worthy as a news source than western media. Again, kill yourself. World is a better place when you die. +--- 58081573 +>>58081536 +>My source is knowing that Ukraine is an even more corrupt +Blah-blah, so you don't have any kind of source and you're just made it up. +>If you unironically believe that 100% of equipment is utilised +Ofc I don't. I even saw some Ukrainian sources here about some guys being detained for trading grenades. +>you show me source from the source that I approve +You already said you don't have one. And yes, I wouldn't approve anything from russian media outlets, like RT. +>Please stop shilling so aggressively. +What, like you? +>We all know everyone is shit +Some are more shit than others. +--- 58081579 +>>58081563 +>You don't know shit +and where are you from? + +aside from living in your moms basement and consuming 10 hours of news articles shilled to you daily from websites that are all controlled by same parent companies and ngos. +--- 58081581 +>>58081544 +>>58081565 +>"le western news that never lied to you" reader +>muh trannies like clockwork +--- 58081585 +>>58081565 +Where exactly they incorrect in your link? +>More brainwashed than average Russian +I don't think that is even possible. +--- 58081587 +>>58081536 +So you actually have no source, no credible report of it, but choose to believe it in typical russhit subhuman fashion because it was written as such on your favorite Z telegram or on /pol/ and it goes against western MSM narrative. You're such a fucking typical case study of the russhit subhuman mentality, holy shit. +--- 58081588 +>>58081572 +>The fact that western media gets things wrong and sometimes lie +This is like rape apologist tier of cope. Going in my cringe folder, thanks +--- 58081596 +>>58081573 +I don't see your point. You agree that corruption exists, but then you ask for proof of corruption. Make up your mind. It seems like you just want to argue for sake of arguing. Maybe you should try to be more happy in life +--- 58081605 +>>58081581 +What's your point. They all lie, that is what I said. + +>I say RT and BBC lie +>shows me some proof of Russian media lying +>acts like he btfo'd me +You guys really need to get off your meds. +--- 58081609 +>>58081581 +--- 58081613 +>>58081588 +Journalists are humans and humans make errors and humans color their writing according to their worldview. This fucking happens and is not a total indictment of the western media sector as a whole. Sometimes I think that you retards have an overly inflated expectations of the western media, then when they inevitably get things wrong and issue a correction, your headcanon illusion of them being infallible breaks down. Then you screencap it and post your gay little archive.is link to epically own the libs and ukronazis online. +--- 58081621 +>>58081605 +do you also think that 1 = 100? +--- 58081624 +>>58081585 +>>More brainwashed than average Russian +>I don't think that is even possible +Russians don't really trust their government. Everything you know about Russia, russians already know, so their skepticism has advantage when seeing something on the news. + +You on the other hand: +>le russia lose on tv ukraine win +>stands to salute the flag +>american government never lied to us +>oh say can you see +--- 58081631 +>>58081596 +>I don't see your point. +My point is you're lying ruzzkie scumbag. +--- 58081637 +>>58080506 +The new legendary for Ogres looks pretty good ngl, I wonder if he'll get bonuses for killing Orcs +--- 58081640 +>>58081587 +Ok, so you're saying there is no corruption expressed in theft of equipment given to Ukraine? + +So 100% of everything went as intended? Really? Maybe talk more shit when you're lacking vocabulary to make an actual point. +--- 58081644 +>>58081579 +>>58081605 +>They all lie +No they don't. Nobody lies as often and maliciously as russians under control of a dictador since two decades ago. +--- 58081647 +>>58081624 +Pathetic. +--- 58081656 +>>58081640 +>So 100% of everything went as intended? Really? +You made your fake argument based on that assumption? +--- 58081661 +>>58081644 +russian leadership is really low IQ, I am feeling second-hand embarrassment just by witnessing Putin exist +--- 58081663 +>>58081640 +I am not saying anything, you fucking faggot, you are. You made the claim that the ukrainians totally sell American ATGMs on the darknet, then chose to piss and shit and rage when pressed for a credible source. Do not try to escape by putting words in my mouth. Again, your behavior only makes my belief stronger that we need a final solution to the RQ. Your culture is diseased, your people are literally diseased with HIV and your mind is diseased from years of wallowing in lies and corruption. +--- 58081671 +>>58081613 +>>58081621 +>>58081644 + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ranFhYpq6UE&ab_channel=zirconium [Embed] + +any other valid points you want to make about le russia bad, but when we do this it's just a mistake of 1 journalist. stop coping. + +>>58081656 +>>58081663 +are you struggling with sticking to the statements you made? either corruption exists and shit was stolen or it doesnt. so what do you say. do you think all equipment went to soldiers as intended or was there shit stolen which is my point. don't try to derail the conversation, faggot +--- 58081680 +>>58081644 + +MH-17 AND MH-370 ARE THE SAME THING + +WAKE UP PEOPLE +--- 58081682 +Anyway, it seems you've all been btfo'd for today. Don't forget to check the news at 6. I'm sure it's all true. Good day +--- 58081694 +>>58081671 +Why are you still unable to provide a credible source for your claim? Why do you try to weasel out of this like a rat by twisting the argument so that it's *we* who are actually responsible to prove the negative? Do you actually understand how discussion and arguments proceed in actually civilized countries? Is your vodka-addled brain that damaged? +--- 58081696 +>>58081671 +>are you struggling with sticking to the statements you made? +Why are you talking about yourself in third person? +I am still waiting for the source of your statement, which you're struggling to present: +>>58081382 +>It's the same story with ATGMs that USA supplied to Ukraine that were then found on sale on darknet and overseas +--- 58081700 +>>58081682 +>Don't forget to check the news at 6 +I am going to assume you're trolling because this is the military board and you failed to specify time zone +--- 58081703 +>>58081644 + +I'm gonna be honest, I was listening to way too many conspiracy talk shows back in 2014 and legitimately believed that MH-17 and MH-370 were the same plane and that the whole thing was a false flag. Mainly because the whole notion of a civilian airliner flying over a known war zone seemed completely ridiculous to me. +--- 58081708 +>>58080799 +Zov 58 has been out on youtube as an audiobook for a while now (in pyccian, of course) +--- 58081709 +>>58081700 +>you failed to specify time zone +india standard time, sar +--- 58081738 +>>58081565 +RT is not anti-tranny: they're just anti-current thing for the sake of creating division +--- 58081745 +>>58081738 +>they're just anti-current +Again, not really, they just push controversial fake news to destabilize regions. +--- 58081769 +>>58081419 +Yeah, very neat, except said lift only travels six feet down. +--- 58081773 +>>58081671 +>posting unironically a schizo video that only "proves" that many american news channels are affiliates under the same script, as it nobody knew it +Your lame anti-american psyops doesn't work against westerners from other countrie with their own media and biases. We can compare and see through your bullshit. +>either corruption exists and shit was stolen or it doesnt +False dichotomy. There are grades of corruption, and Ukraine has proven to be less corrupt than Russia, or there wouldn't have been a war. +> le russia bad +Correct. The West gave Russia fair chances to be partners and it stabbed us in the back with your their imperial delusions. Now it's payback time. + +Also, it's telling that you're unaware of how disgusting is your "we're all liars, murderers and thieves here, da?" routine. You thugs deserve the rope. +--- 58081801 +>>58078100 (OP) +What is the point of censoring the audio when he's showing corpses anyway? Some vatnik in moscow might get a ptsd flashbacks from being called a pidor? +--- 58081880 +>>58078546 +>>58081413 +Keke +My neighbor just screamed at me to stfu aahhhhhh +--- 58081982 +Fuck it, new thread before I go to bed >>58081951 → diff --git a/k/58078197.txt b/k/58078197.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d61514eaada1efa9cb0b3c53a3b42a05189afa58 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58078197.txt @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +----- +--- 58078197 +has anybody here served in the MFO or knows anybody who served there? +i just found out about this organisation and i would like to know more about it +--- 58078225 +>On September 17, 1978, the Camp David Accords were signed by Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat under the sponsorship of United States President Jimmy Carter. The accords provided for a full Israeli withdrawal from Sinai. + +>On May 18, 1981, the President of the UN Security Council indicated that the UN would be unable to provide the force, due to the threat of a veto of the motion by the USSR at the request of Syria.[3] + +>As a result of the UN Security Council impasse, Egypt, Israel and the United States opened negotiations to set up a peacekeeping organization outside the framework of the UN. On August 3, 1981, the Protocol to the Treaty of Peace was signed, establishing the Multinational Force and Observers.[2] +--- 58078233 +>>58078197 (OP) +It's very boring, you don't leave base often. Egypt is neat. Israel is fun, but the girls won't talk to you unless you're Jewish. +--- 58078234 +Was fun. Lot of free time and training. If you ever go, pray to god you are sent to south camp if you're somebody who only gets to be in one camp. +--- 58078271 +>>58078197 (OP) +Here's a random pic I took blowing up a cargo container's worth of 40mm that one of the countries in MFO had left there since the 80s or 90s and lost the paperwork for. +--- 58078279 +>>58078271 +--- 58078341 +>>58078233 +which part of egypt did you go to? +>>58078234 +i dont think we are allowed there at all, i have mandatory service in the infantry in south sinai +what is the MFO position on the recent sinai chicanery and the subsequent militarization of some parts of it +--- 58079343 +>>58078341 +>which part of egypt did you go to? +Luxor and . I fucking love bronze age history, so finally getting to see all the big sites had me rock fucking hard. I don't have my hard drive handy, otherwise I would post pics of Karnak. Israel also had buckets of cool stuff and was generally safer to get around. +--- 58079366 +>>58078341 +The MFO is to keep the peace between Israel and Egypt. The military build up is largely to suppress terrorism in the Sinai. Generally people have positive opinions of having more security forces around to keep the ISIS away. There haven't been any sort of deterioration between the two countries, so while they're is watching, they aren't really concerned. diff --git a/k/58078575.txt b/k/58078575.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..170424d81efac435354c3d8f0f38be5d6e7949ae --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58078575.txt @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +----- +--- 58078575 +>im a cold war veteran, i protected this country against the russians +how would you respond? +this happened in leafland btw +--- 58078598 +>>58078575 (OP) +No idea what this is about but leafland is a commie shit hole +>t. leaf +--- 58078701 +>>58078575 (OP) +>this happened in leafland btw +Fuck 'em, old fucks in this country are the same ones that put commie gungrabbers in charge and continue to do so. +--- 58078743 +>>58078575 (OP) +>how would you respond? +Oh yeah? What was your trade? +>this happened in leafland btw +Not surprising, many cold war era veterans here. Canadian forces were larger then and contributed to NATO's collective deterrence, thus protecting the country from the russians. +--- 58078782 +>>58078575 (OP) +Found this in Moab +--- 58078926 +OP here, does this statement not seem bizarre to anyone else? when you hear “vietnam vet” or “afghanistan vet” you can infer which war that individual fought in. With the cold war famously not being an actual war, using the preface seems almost dishonest, as anyone who actually FOUGHT in the cold war would refer to the specific war they fought in. +does this make sense? +--- 58079155 +>>58078926 +He never said he actually fought. +--- 58079363 +>>58078926 +I mean you can still say you are a veteran of Afghanistan/Vietnam and work in logistics, being a mechanic, etc. It isn't wrong or dishonest. +--- 58079382 +>>58079155 +>>58079363 +but you wouldn’t say you were a vietnam vet if you never served in vietnam, even if you were enlisted at the time of the vietnam war. +--- 58079384 +>>58078575 (OP) +Ahahah there’s almost no anglos left in leafland. Good job “defending” the country. +--- 58079397 +>>58078575 (OP) +What happened in leafland? +--- 58079400 +>>58078575 (OP) +Did an American tell you that? If so he's right, say thank you sir, buy him a Timmy's double double and let him fuck your wife. +--- 58079412 +>>58079382 +Yes you would. Say you were working at a base in Thailand supplying and aiding troops fighting in Vietnam. You wouldn't say "I am a Veteran of Thailand." That wouldn't make any sense. Naturally you would say I am a Vietnam Vet since that is the conflict you partook in even though you never stepped foot in Vietnam. +Should drone operators working in Nevada not say they were veterans after piloting drone operations in Afghanistan? +--- 58079422 +>>58078575 (OP) +>I work in IT security, I protect this country from the Russians Now. +And then follow up with “contractually I can’t get into the details though, you know” +--- 58079496 +>>58079412 +No, typically those guys say "Vietnam-era Veteran". You aren't a veteran of the campaign if you aren't actually there. No campaign medal, either. +--- 58079514 +>>58079496 +>typically those guys say "Vietnam-era Veteran" +I have never heard that term before, I have a feeling many just say Vietnam Vet because it is simple and to the point. Saying "Vietnam-era Vet" makes people ask the question, "Oh what does that mean? Vietnam-era" and then they have to explain how they weren't front line troops but rear echelon troops. And I doubt most go into detail like that they just say "Vietnam Vet" so the conversation can end and they can go about their business. +--- 58079722 +>>58079412 +So you would consider someone serving as military police in a base in the mainland US during the vietnam war a vietnam veteran? diff --git a/k/58078628.txt b/k/58078628.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e1baa20628362f906fc80790afcadb095d9963db --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58078628.txt @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +----- +--- 58078628 +I have seen both Russians and Ukrainians firing howitzers from a very low angel. + +What is the purpose of using modern howitzers as 18th century canons? +--- 58078653 +>>58078628 (OP) +Nothing wrong with that, it's called direct fire and is preferably not done by modern howitzers but there are shells for it. The Soviets had very high velocity field guns much like the AT ones used in WW2, in production, up to like 1980. + +Oh btw "low angle" if used with the max charge can still be like 4 km. It can even be indirect fire if you have a hill or trees in the way. +--- 58078669 +>>58078628 (OP) +Seen Ukraine? Its all flat territory bro. +--- 58078713 +>>58078653 +Thanks that is interesting +--- 58078742 +>>58078628 (OP) +US military doctrine defines howitzers as "any cannon artillery capable of both high-angle fire (45° to 90° elevation) and low-angle fire (0° to 45° elevation)" +I don't see the problem +--- 58078748 +>>58078628 (OP) +Destroying targets you stupid bluegummed streetshitting subSerbian cow worshipper. +--- 58078762 +>>58078628 (OP) +You often see 100mm AT guns on both sides - basically a T55 gun on an artillery carriage. +--- 58078802 +>>58078628 (OP) +The Soviets had a fuckton of direct fire AT cannons lying around as surplus, which is why you see both sides using them because they can still be employed as budget howitzers. +--- 58078821 +>>58078628 (OP) +>What is the purpose of using modern howitzers as 18th century canons? +Cannons are artillery, going back to the days of muskets. Howitzers are just cannons with large, explosive shells that can fire arcs over very long distances. Mortars are the same idea on a smaller scale. +--- 58079098 +>>58078802 +how long before they bring out the 3-in field gun? +--- 58079138 +>>58079098 +Was probably propaganda bs but i remember people saying they already were a few months ago, there was a video of one being towed behind a truck with a flat tire i believe +--- 58079160 +>>58078742 +>>58078628 (OP) + +pretty much all Howitzers used today are actually Gun-Howitzers as they can be used in both direct fire and indirect fire roles. + +I think the Vatniggers still field Anti-Tank guns. +--- 58079240 +>>58078802 +No, the Soviets unironically believe in direct-fire gun artillery +Probably cause of the lack of 4km range ATGMs +--- 58079243 +>>58079098 +Donbabweans probably already dug some out of some local museum +--- 58079474 +>>58079240 +>No, the Soviets unironically believe in direct-fire gun artillery +They BELIEVED in it, and only until it was obvious that a towed artillery piece was going to get destroyed and ATGMs had better penetration anyway. The APFSDS ammunition the F-12 thing fired had only about 225mm of penetration at 1000m where the T-62 was hitting 350mm at 2km. +--- 58079497 +>>58079474 +They still have direct fire gun battalions today +--- 58079507 +>>58079497 +Yeah but the Russians are retarded, the Soviets at least had a bit of sense. There's going to be a Ukrainian tank commander in a Leopard 2 who suddenly feels oddly German the moment he comes through some bushes and sees a Russian AT gun line. +--- 58079521 +>>58079497 +That's just because they are poor and dumb enough to buy into thinking numbers will always win over capability. +--- 58079723 +>>58079507 +>>58079521 +They use them as howitzers for the most part, and then as anti-bunker guns +Learned it in Grozny I think +--- 58079966 +>>58079098 +does anyone have the picture of the russians with a centurys old cannon they looted? i think it was Kherson, early in the war +--- 58079985 +>>58078628 (OP) +>angel +HAHAHAHAHA +Omfg. +--- 58080164 +>>58078762 +Rapira is not much like the D-10, you are speaking out of ignorance +--- 58080345 +D20 and 30 are very easy and fun to use for direct fire. All you need is a scope. I think the soviets used the rpg on the howitzers too. +Im sure it's a good tool for bunkers, ambushes on roads and ofc defending the battery pos. +--- 58080362 +>>58078628 (OP) +low angle means faster time to impact +--- 58080414 +>>58078742 +>45° to 90° +Hummmm. +> Sets up 90° firing solution. + +So ... exactly how long does the shell take to return to sender? +--- 58081259 +>>58080414 +Not Important comrade +Is just very skillful shoot and scoot training technique +If you cant pack up and leave before shell come back home then you fail the test tovarish +--- 58081275 +>>58078628 (OP) + +direct fire IDF weapons diff --git a/k/58078761.txt b/k/58078761.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6d2b4233e7bd628b9fc35eedb341999808944552 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58078761.txt @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +----- +--- 58078761 +>Julian this is a pirate's gun +--- 58079665 +>>58078761 (OP) +This show peaked with the early seasons, it was still pretty funny later on though. +--- 58079755 +>>58079665 +seasons 1-8 were the high point, though the quality was kind of spotty at times in the later few seasons + +seasons 8-12 are ok but they definitely try way too hard and the increased production value actually detracts from the show +--- 58079777 +>>58079665 +I've only ever watched the original run. Is the stuff they did after they brought it back worth watching? +--- 58079789 +>>58079755 +It also went completely off the rails after Lahey and Phil Collins died and J-ROC left the show. Bringing celebrities on too like Snoop Dogg was getting too stupid, at least Sebastian Bach in the original run made sense, dudes Canadian after all. +Imo it was the loss of Lahey that did it to me. He was absolutely irreplaceable, RIP, hope you're enjoying liquor drinks in heaven :( +--- 58080523 +>>58079665 +I think I finally stopped liking it around the snoop dog season, when I heard that they announced the cartoon spinoff it was dead to me. +--- 58080534 +>>58079777 +I liked all of the Netflix seasons except for one of them (either the 1st or 2nd can't remember). But they're definitely worse than the original run, still funny. The last one (unless there's been a more recent season than from a few years ago) was actually a pretty good return to form from what I remember. +--- 58080543 +>>58079665 +1-6 was it's peak, 7 was okay then everything afterward felt forced. Should have ended with S7. +--- 58080555 +>>58080534 +the season with the lesbians was fucking awful +--- 58081568 +>>58079665 +never should have gone HD, the grainy camera quality gave it its comfy soul +--- 58081599 +>>58078761 (OP) +>Then I guess that makes you long john dick weed, Trevor. +--- 58081610 +>>58080543 +this is the objectively correct opinion +When netflix picked it up the characters (ricky) seemed like caricatures of themselves. diff --git a/k/58078916.txt b/k/58078916.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b7ebd08687e8aa5d5b3398ccc7b9d4af86f14f98 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58078916.txt @@ -0,0 +1,755 @@ +----- +--- 58078916 +Austism rifle general: SR-15 brand SR-15 edition aka fuck 12.5 edition aka 11.5 GPR edititon. + +previous: >>58075029 → +--- 58078938 +Post live fire into JO transition training exercises. +--- 58078945 +>>58078938 +got my foreskin caught in my quadrail +--- 58078951 +>>58078938 +needle dick chads can use the buffer tube as a fleshlight +--- 58078961 +>>58078951 +Look at mr humblebrag over here. I use the QD point on my stock. +--- 58078969 +>>58078951 +that would be very painful +--- 58078977 +>>58078945 +That sucks but that's what it's there for as a sacrificial barrier so you don't get your pecker head stuck instead. +--- 58078982 +your firing pin works as a urethra plug btw +--- 58078985 +>>58078916 (OP) +Is xeno preferred over keymo, due to less weight? +--- 58078991 +>>58078982 +Not anymore I'm too blown out for that. +--- 58078992 +>>58078938 +>he doesn't have a fleshlight mounted in his stock so he can masturbate with the recoil +--- 58078998 +>>58078985 +xeno is a simple taper mount vs keymo being a ratcheting mount of some sort, xeno is shorter, lighter, and has no possibility of mechanical failure. it is similar to rearden atlas/q plan b. +--- 58079000 +>>58078985 +It lacks a secondary retention +--- 58079008 +>>58078985 +idk. +--- 58079020 +I sat on mah nut +--- 58079022 +G96 smells wonderful +--- 58079025 +Best AR is always european +--- 58079046 +>>58079020 +based FSB Chad. +--- 58079054 +>>58079020 +Holy reddit batman +--- 58079058 +I'm going to build pri flip up gas block centurion fsp cut 10.5 upper for one of those bond arms lever action ar's, it will be kino +--- 58079062 +>>58079046 +Thanks +--- 58079071 +>>58078969 +for you +--- 58079079 +>>58078916 (OP) +My brother in Christ, when are you getting nods? If it's any easier, you can let me borrow that Raid until you get nooded +--- 58079096 +>>58078938 +>JO +Are we doing it on rails? +--- 58079099 +>>58079079 +memorial day or something idk. nice mk18 btw. +--- 58079108 +>>58079046 +based GG&G flippy FSB enjoyer +--- 58079122 +>>58079058 +inquisitive grunt +--- 58079126 +>>58079099 +Thanks mang, gonna gpr it for a few weeks to see if I can love the LPVO meme +--- 58079137 +>>58079096 +I didn't know A2 had kids. +--- 58079139 +When the fuck is my form1 being approved. Shit should take a week max. The GOV is a worthless archaic money leaching parasite. +I should only have to answer to the State since SBRs cannot leave your home state. +My state would have a tax stamp ready in 1-2 month tops. +--- 58079147 +>>58079126 +nice double chin neverserved +--- 58079154 +>>58079147 +lmao as if you ever did +--- 58079162 +>>58078938 +Stage 1: Shoot, move, masturbait +All targets at 400 yard line +5 minute par time + +Upon the buzzer, shooter will move 25 yds to P1, drop prone and engage full size ipsc at with 2 consecutive hits. Hits MUST be consecutive to move. + +Shooter will then sprint 100 yards to P2, and engage half ipsc from the kneeling with 3 consecutive hits. + +Shooter will then sprint another 100 yards to P3 and engage 8" gong with 5 consecutive hits from the standing. + +After all targets have been neutralized, shooter will climb over the berm into the woods and search for a hidden porno mag. Failure to engage magazine will result in failure to complete the stage. +--- 58079175 +>>58079122 +ergo are such fags for making you lotto for that stock, they should just sell it outright +--- 58079178 +>>58079022 +smells like bubblegum and motor oil i love it +--- 58079188 +>>58079178 +>spray +enjoy dying +--- 58079190 +>>58079175 +ergo is a fucking weird company nothing they do makes sense +--- 58079194 +>>58079062 +When I got hired by the PD in 1993 I had a cozy collar parka like that. + +>>58079108 +I like it, but having HK hood envy with yours. I never liked the bolt on YHM’s. + +>>58079122 +I need an F93 for a shorty build. +--- 58079196 +>>58079194 +>PD +this is a pig free zone +--- 58079205 +>>58079122 +boncle +--- 58079206 +>>58079190 +Give it a beaver tail and it would be peak grip +--- 58079215 +>>58079194 +The tag on the jacket is "Tuffy ANR," and when I Googled them up it said the jackets were old police winter jackets which explains things like the blue fur and pencil pockets. It's really great and fits like a dream. + +Verification not required +--- 58079250 +>>58079178 +I literally can't smell gun oils anymore +I think the dirty rag pile has destroyed my nostrils +>>58079194 +>I never liked the bolt on YHM’s +I haven't had anything bad happen with the two I have but I can't say I really trust em +>I need an F93 for a shorty build. +EOD clone is the new meta +--- 58079255 +>>58079188 +no not dying anything but that!!!!! +--- 58079282 +>>58079250 +I just heard they (like any bolt on gas block) work loose and since the bolts are on the bottom they drop right out? + +Being a former non-mil bombfag I was always a fan of their guns. I haven’t done a full autist clone yet. +--- 58079298 +>>58079196 +I trust my local cops in my small community. It's not a big city really, and a lot of the cops join militias down South and out in the country. Know a few of them myself, and they aren't "pigs" but people do love hunting boar AKA feral swine down here. It's not a huge force and they are neighbors with everyone else. +--- 58079312 +For me my sbr/GPR's have to be Gucci'd out but my SPR can be a total hodge podge shitrod +--- 58079361 +>>58079282 +>since the bolts are on the bottom they drop right out? +I just checked my screws yesterday when I was putting the cas-v on >>58079250 they were still tight, first time I've checked them in about 2500 rounds +it is something to keep an eye on and I'd definitely prefer taper pins +>Being a former non-mil bombfag I was always a fan of their guns. I haven’t done a full autist clone yet. +they are really neat, I'm not going to do a serious clone but I'll probably end up getting an eotech and a #40 for it +--- 58079381 +>>58079361 +I want a 553? (Always forget the #) like I had back in the day. +--- 58079388 +First off I’m fuckin mad that I can’t buy a p2 Acro due to out of stock bullshit + +Second off should I buy a larue billet lower to replace my aero lower, I am Drinking and want to burn some money tonight +--- 58079395 +>>58079381 +But 553s have nitrided barrels. +--- 58079410 +>>58079395 +I meant Eotech. You taking Sig Commandos? If so I’m listening! +--- 58079421 +>>58079381 +yeah I'd like one too, I believe that would be clone correct also but they've been spiking in price recently so I might just go with a 552 +--- 58079423 +>>58079388 +Nah. Billet is too heavy +--- 58079469 +Tubb flatwire spring trip report here +It doesn't have enough ass behind it for an a5h4 to send the bolt home on a full mag reliably but still shoots smooth. +Threw it in a suppressed SBR lower with a carbine tube and an H2 and holy shit its the best spring I've tried for it yet. +Will try the 308 flatwire spring with the A5 system if my boredom level goes critical. +--- 58079494 +>>58079469 +>a5h4 +that's wolff xp spring territory right there, yeup +--- 58079535 +>>58079421 +I’ve noticed the recent spike too and no harm having a 562 on hand. Pic rel is on my watch I mean wish list. +--- 58079553 +>go to gas station +>see brown "person" +>night ruined +--- 58079554 +>>58079215 +what handguard is that? that’s one of those drop in ones? +--- 58079563 +>>58079554 +Not that anon but I wouldn't worry about what handguard it is, it looks ugly and retarded +--- 58079569 +>>58079553 +Many such nights +--- 58079578 +>>58079563 +that’s fine with me +--- 58079588 +>>58079469 +I use that spring with a5h4 +--- 58079599 +>>58079553 +There were three homeless people in front of the grocery store last week. I haven't seen a homeless person in years. +--- 58079603 +>>58078841 → +both +--- 58079606 +>>58079599 +It's everywhere now and every American make does nothing. +--- 58079610 +>>58079312 +You don't need fancy accessories to be an earth rocker +--- 58079612 +>>58079535 +the watch/wish list can get out of hand pretty quickly, speaking of sigs, I saw blue mountain had 516 uppers in stock recently https://www.bluemountainsupplyllc.com/sig-sauer-516-gen-2-parts-kit-105-barrel.html +pretty neat stuff +--- 58079650 +>>58079588 +You have the CS one? I got the stainless +--- 58079655 +>>58079650 +Just whatever tubb uses +--- 58079671 +>>58079650 +have you tried more lube? +--- 58079682 +>>58079606 +what do you want people to do? +Also, I know it might seem boomer to say but a lot of these homeless people are in positions like that because they're degenerate drug users or just lazy niggers +--- 58079698 +>>58079250 +>EOD clone is the new meta +https://www.gunbroker.com/item/970561168 +--- 58079720 +Huffchads report in!! +--- 58079729 +>>58079720 +Nice thread we have going so far, would be a shame if the dnc shills popped in and dropped artificial drama- oh hey. Let me be the first (you) for the night. How is your day going? +--- 58079742 +>>58079720 +>Huffchads report in!! +I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean by "Huffchads report." Can you please provide more context or information so that I can better understand your request and assist you? +--- 58079761 +>>58079612 +Yeah I’ve leaned the lesson about not keeping close tabs on their new listings. Would be very happy with a 10.5” 516. My LGS had a bunch of well used PD uppers but were $1050. I just bought pic rel and a SOLGW safety for my 14.5”, which has the matching Seekins upper and the GG&G flip block. +--- 58079778 +>>58079742 +It means post painted guns +--- 58079785 +>>58079761 +I've heard very good things about seekins recently, how much does that lower go for? +>>58079698 +ha, yeah I just saw that one this morning. A bit steep but those cas-v el rails are really hard to get ahold of nowadays. I was lucky to grab the mlok version +--- 58079807 +>>58079554 +Vtac extended pre-mlok mlok handguard +--- 58079824 +>>58079785 +It retails for like $280ish but they were coming down and when I went to buy all the online sites were out of stock and all the GB sellers were at retail or more. I just grabbed it from Shooting Surplus for $219 with low shipping. +--- 58079836 +Are DLC coated bolts resistant enough to wear that they can just be whored out to whatever upper. thinking about doing that with a bootleg carrier +--- 58079850 +LMT and DD are about the same price is it mostly aesthetic preference or is either superior +--- 58079860 +>>58079850 +DD, LMTs QC is hit or miss every LMT upper I bought had shitty QC and CS is equally shitty. +--- 58079867 +>>58079860 +If their quality control is that bad how do they get away with charging $2400 on their rifles that everyone seems to hype +--- 58079887 +>>58079785 +I think the cost comes from the fact that it’s a “genuine navy upper” as he claims. No clue if that’s true or not +--- 58079903 +>>58079867 +idk man. here's a complete step missing from the machining process that slipped QC +--- 58079920 +>>58079903 +I’m retarded, what’s wrong? +--- 58079929 +>>58079867 +In their defense they just got settled into a new factory in Iowa and thye lost all their old boomer CNC workers. +Still, no defending them charging full price for poor worksmanship. +--- 58079940 +>>58079903 +lmao what the fuck + +>>58079929 +guess ill roll with DD, shame since i really like LMT lowers +--- 58079947 +>>58079920 +It's uncircumcised +--- 58079949 +>>58079824 +that's a tempting price for an ambi lower, I'd be interested in your thoughts on it once you've had it for a bit +>>58079887 +it's "clone correct" if nothing else, and those rails weren't really sold commercially so he might not be lying +--- 58079957 +>>58079860 +>>58079850 +Lmt is a decent bit more above DD price margins. I would have said LMT is better also by a good margin though before covid, but their QC has slipped hard. Their customer service is dogshit as well. Though once you get a good part that's in spec, It's really fantastic. +--- 58079963 +>driving home from work +>check rear view mirror +>zoomer femoid is taking picture of my larue bumper sticker +what are the chances my truck is on t*ktok? +--- 58079979 +>>58079949 +Just get a pdq lever. +--- 58079991 +>>58079957 +Too risky to gamble $320 on a stripped lower or will the gun shop/LMT exchange it for me if it's fucked? +--- 58079998 +>>58079940 +I don't have any QC issues on my LMT save for the upper magwell cap not lining up with the lower but this is purely aesthetic +--- 58080000 +>>58079920 +Hint. Bolt catch +--- 58080002 +>>58079920 +No bolt catch pin hole +--- 58080009 +Is an arisaka light(18650 body with Malkov head) a better buy compared to a surefire 640DF pro? +--- 58080012 +enjoying a post bjj ribeye and a hurt ankle. +really miss my atacr. +>>58079096 +what a classic +--- 58080015 +>>58080000 +>>58080002 +What about the trigger guard? Are my eyes retarded as my brain? +--- 58080032 +>>58079963 +Which one was it? Extremely rightwing? +--- 58080040 +>>58079778 +The term "post painted guns" could refer to firearms that have been illegally modified or altered, which can be a violation of federal and/or state laws. Specifically, the National Firearms Act (NFA) and the Gun Control Act (GCA) both regulate the manufacture, distribution, and possession of firearms, including restrictions on certain modifications to firearms. + +For example, under the GCA, it is illegal to possess a firearm that has had its serial number removed, altered, or obliterated (18 U.S.C. § 922(k)). It is also illegal to manufacture or possess a firearm that is not detectable by metal detectors (18 U.S.C. § 922(p)). Under the NFA, it is illegal to possess certain types of firearms, such as short-barreled rifles and shotguns, without proper registration and taxation (26 U.S.C. § 5845(a)). + +In addition, state laws may have their own regulations and restrictions on firearms, including modifications or alterations. It is important to note that laws and regulations can vary depending on the jurisdiction and may change over time, so it is essential to consult with an attorney or legal authority for up-to-date information and guidance. +--- 58080051 +>>58080015 +--- 58080054 +>>58080012 +Happy for you to finally get started with that. +>really miss my atacr. +Did you replace it with anything? What was the reason for this? I don't blame you for ditching it but you seemed to be really into it. +--- 58080058 +>>58080015 +Typically you install that urself on a normal lower +--- 58080070 +>>58080051 +>>58080058 +Sometimes I forget how autistic it is in here. What do you call those things then? +--- 58080082 +>>58080000 +Checked + +>>58080070 +What, the trigger guard? +>hammering a pin and a tightening a set screw is autistic +--- 58080084 +>>58080070 +A trigger guard +--- 58080090 +mmmmmmmmmmmmmm drama-free /arg/ +--- 58080092 +>>58080082 +>>58080084 +--- 58080097 +>>58080058 +I am thankful for my M4E1 lower +--- 58080101 +>>58080092 +Yes normally one is an Allen key you screw in other is a roll pin. Have you never built a lower? +--- 58080110 +>>58078916 (OP) +--- 58080111 +>>58080101 +All of mine have had a hole all the way through. +--- 58080112 +>>58080092 +The original trigger guards have a front detent allowing them to swing down allowing you to shoot with thick winter gloves. There isn't supposed to be a hole there sine the dentnt is on the ejection port side. +--- 58080118 +>>58079949 +Yeah I was gonna just write it off as a billet lower but lots of impressed owners on arfcom. I do like the upper, it has a nice scalloped area for the bolt catch and threaded FA screw. Should be here Fri. + +>>58080084 +--- 58080131 +>>58080112 +Thank you. This is news to me. +--- 58080141 +>>58079682 +Just sit back until the end comes +--- 58080152 +>>58080132 +Is that a Glamour Shot™? +--- 58080171 +>>58080144 +what is the can on the right? +--- 58080172 +>>58080152 +photo room, anon +--- 58080176 +>>58080141 +--- 58080180 +>>58080032 +nah the "gobbless our snipers" one i have a few of em +put one next to my anime sticker for the lulz +--- 58080181 +>>58079850 +DD is the undisputed /arg/ king +--- 58080192 +>>58080172 +Mr. Gook, what model Earmor does your friend have? Wanna make sure I buy the correct one that you got to try. +--- 58080194 +>>58080171 +I believe that's either a nomad or a sandman, he's got a few Deadair cans. I'm thinking about puling the trigger on a second can to suppress some 30 cal shit, considering a Huxwrx Flow 7.62. +--- 58080201 +>>58080181 +I just like how LMT lowers look a lot more than DD's and I am autistic enough to dislike mismatched anodization so I was hoping to get a full LMT build but if they've hit the shitter I will probably just get a complete DD rifle on sale +--- 58080211 +>>58079991 +You can send it back to LMT to have it fixed if its anything serious. Personally my LMT Lower came perfect. +--- 58080217 +>>58080192 +I think those are the M31s? I tried them on for a bit, they are pretty fucking good for the money. I'll probably get a set myself since my comtacs are married to my helmet and I just want a set of whatever comms to replace my old bulky Peltor 500s or whatever they are. + +>>58080181 +>DD is the undisputed /arg/ king +That's knights you're thinking of, but aside from my personal issues with them DD is good to go for most people. +--- 58080224 +>>58080092 +Y'all don't notice the bolt catch roll pin not being drilled? +--- 58080235 +>>58080224 +That's not for a roll pin +--- 58080239 +>>58080132 +Kino, needs a RMR/ACRO P2 on top. You should get a B&T Rotex X Short can that attaches to the A2 birdcage just for fun. +--- 58080242 +>>58080224 +I saw that too but I never knew I had some bootleg lowers until tonight. +--- 58080246 +I've 100% made up my mind. The AR-45 build is happening because I found these and it would look cool as fuck +--- 58080247 +>>58080181 +DD is the best value per dollar, but LMT/KAC are up there. With LMT you just gotta make sure you check all the QC and if you get something bad you gotta deal with sending it back and waiting for months. Which is bullshit. +--- 58080250 +>>58080172 +>you sure this is gonna make me a famous model?> +I have an eBay setup in the guest room but need a real backdrop besides a sheet. +--- 58080254 +>>58080201 +LMT lowers are superior, but DD uppers are better value. +--- 58080263 +>>58080235 +Really? +--- 58080270 +>>58080254 +Then I am still left with my issue of mismatched anos that will drive my autism too crazy to handle +--- 58080275 +>>58080270 +The fuck? Just Rattle can it like Desert metro anon, he has the most aesthetic mk18 on here. +--- 58080305 +>>58080275 +no +--- 58080317 +>>58080305 +not my problem +--- 58080320 +>>58080263 +There's a retractable pin that was on the og trigger guard +--- 58080347 +There are nazis outside my house +--- 58080368 +>>58080347 +that's not a window, it's a mirror +--- 58080381 +>>58080347 +They're not just outside it, I'm in your walls right now. +--- 58080388 +>>58080320 +Yeah but what about the bolt catch? +--- 58080398 +>>58080181 +Now that A2 is gone he is +--- 58080401 +>>58080388 +Follow the reply chain all the way up. +--- 58080415 +>>58080317 +You're right it's my problem and I can't deal with it so I'm just getting a DD +--- 58080416 +Indian M193 or IWI +--- 58080418 +>>58080388 +Oh shit, just saw that. Nah man that's a fucked lower +--- 58080420 +>>58080194 +I thought the Nomad had barrel length restriction or was that just the Ti? I have a Nomad LT and wouldn't dare put it on anything under 14.5. +--- 58080424 +>>58080416 +Neither? +--- 58080425 +>>58080416 +Redeem sir +--- 58080442 +>>58080416 +literally neither. PMC or PPU right now. +--- 58080482 +arfags are FUCKING CANCER +--- 58080483 +>>58080398 +What happened to A2 +--- 58080486 +>>58080483 +he's dead again +--- 58080511 +>>58080483 +He got picked up by the FBI for radicalizing the Buffalo shooter. He's doing 20 years in the federal pen bro. +--- 58080531 +not only do i hate bans but i also hate the warnings and red text so i have to backspace and retype everything and captcha i want to cause living hell for jiggers +--- 58080542 +>>58080531 +that's great anon thanks for letting us know +--- 58080549 +>>58080542 +is that a selfie of you +--- 58080556 +>>58080531 +>break rules +>get punished +>cry about it +5 year old mentality on full dispaly +--- 58080557 +>>58080549 +pic related is me observing holosun owners +--- 58080583 +>>58080556 +being based is not against the rules +free my mans +--- 58080650 +>>58080054 +sold it at a good price and got a new nx8 w/ the new reticle to save on a bit of space and weight. huge fucking mistake. the atacr is the best lpvo out there. +--- 58080665 +Ok /ARG/, gonna be attending a gun show this weekend, and my rifle needs a sling. Any suggestions on what to get/avoid? +--- 58080669 +>>58080665 +Two shoelaces tied together +--- 58080670 +>>58080557 +tfw i own 5 holosun optics +--- 58080683 +>>58080665 +One shoelace as a single point and then cut the other lace in half to tie what I assume is your only pair of shoes. +--- 58080692 +>>58080665 +>Any suggestions on what to get +A new rifle +--- 58080715 +>>58080650 +Whats better about the atacr vs the nx8 +--- 58080732 +>reminder +only acceptable time to wear a belt is with a suit, when you're contracting or when you put on your battle belt. +--- 58080774 +>>58080732 +why am i not surprised that a high water jean wearing faggot with no show socks wants to show his asscrack when he bends over, assumedly in front of your boyfriend for the night? +--- 58080802 +>>58080774 +lol +oof, just buy clothing that fits you silly brown cholo +--- 58080823 +imagine dropping 50k on a truck that has an oversized clit for a shifter +couldnt be me +--- 58080834 +>>58080557 +pic rel is me looking at semi auto lowers +--- 58080883 +>>58079553 +"just get the fuck away" +--- 58080919 +>>58080774 +>high water +are you a nigger? +--- 58081056 +>>58080250 +dude no need. I mean for high res photos taken by somebody who knows what they are doing with a DSLR, yes, doing it the legit way with proper lighting and drop is always going to be better, but for internet shitposting these apps are getting insane. Any anon can take a photo on his bombed out carpet so long as there's halfway decent lighting and then pull out everything in the back and make it look acceptable for something like /arg/ shoptalking/flexposting. + +>>58080665 +>gun show +I don't see how anybody even bothers going to these anymore. The only reason I went to the last one I did is a friend dragged me out and it was a waste of time and money both. + +>sling +trex arms, ferro, proctor are all decent. If I was honestly going to buy another sling right now I'd probably go with another trex arms, it's simple and though the hardware is kinda cheap, it's held up for my use so far. Idk if it would stand up to A2's level of abuse, though. + +>>58080420 +I can't remember. I know he has a Sandman and something else, and I don't think that's the Sandman pictured although I could be wrong. Actually come to think of it maybe that is the Sandman. + +>IWI +Stop supporting Jews +>indian +I have 2k of this shit, shoots ok but literally smells like curry and shit, I swear. It's disgusting. The memes are true. I can't open up the can without wanting to puke. As the other anons have said, PPU has been the shit that's been on sale lately, I think a bunch of places have had it for like $380/case. Alternatively there's also that Igman shit for around the same price or cheaper, I've shot a little of it and so far so good, it's about as accurate as any of this shit we're talking about. +--- 58081065 +>>58080416 +>>58081056 +fuck, I meant last answer for your post. +--- 58081077 +>>58080217 +what's wrong with those rmrs? are they not as bright or something? +--- 58081129 +>>58081056 +that is a nomad gook +--- 58081136 +>>58080732 +Eh I've tried wearing a holster without a belt it's not my cup of tea. +--- 58081138 +>>58081077 +Non adjustable, fiber optic + tritium powered, even in good conditions the reticle is hard to pick up +--- 58081139 +>>58081077 +they don't work without sunlight and they aren't bright. +--- 58081182 +>>58081138 +>>58081139 +is not being able to zero it that big of an issue? the reticles are all 6-12 MOA, it's not like it's a precision optic. would it be fine piggybacked on an acog? +--- 58081185 +>>58081182 +>would it be fine piggybacked on an acog? +I mean, I wouldnt. If you dont want an RM06, get the RM01; its nonadjustable and usually cheaper second hand than the RM06. +--- 58081186 +>>58081138 +Can u please turn off trip, we are having a nice peaceful thread. No need to bait anymore, it's just asking to derail the thread at this point +--- 58081219 +>>58081077 +What's right with them? Why buy that over a good one? +--- 58081225 +>>58081186 +that's the whole point bro +--- 58081251 +>>58081185 +probably gonna look into that one then +>>58081186 +just filter him +>>58081219 +i do not have money +--- 58081266 +>>58081129 +Fair enough, I thought it was but I did think there was a barrel length restriction on it, but with my buddy who knows, he just does whatever and rocks out lmfao. + +>>58081077 +>>58081182 + +see>>58081138 +>>58081139 + +So my grievance with them is that you can't use them under nods, which isn't the only reason I'd run them on top of an ACOG but it's absolutely 50% of the reason. Besides the TA31 and other dual illumination acogs, I'm against dual illumination in principle because as others have stated, it's never the brightness you really want, and you have no control over it. In optics be it under daylight or nightime/nods use, you always ideally want the ability to control illumination, and considering the adjustable RMR is perfectly fine and has no issues, the dual-illum is basically pointless. +--- 58081276 +>>58081251 +>i do not have money +If you don't have anything nice to buy then don't buy anything. +--- 58081325 +>>58081251 +>i do not have money +You'll have less and be stuck with the worst RMR if you do the dual ilumn +--- 58081334 +>>58081325 +stop trying to shit up threads faggot the retard hasn't been here all day +--- 58081369 +>>58078916 (OP) +I found out the average Euro AR barrel length is anywhere from 8-12 inches on average. I can't describe how much I hate the NFA and the Brace ban. +--- 58081381 +>>58081369 +Shorter barrels are easier for criminals to conceal, I don't blame the Government for implementing the NFA +--- 58081394 +>>58081266 +makes sense +>>58081276 +but what else will i do with my crippling lack of impulse control? +>>58081325 +well it'll be one more than you +>>58081381 +nogs can literally conceal carry a full size ak while wearing a tank top and sagged jeans, im pretty sure barrel length doesnt make that much of a difference +--- 58081400 +>>58081381 +But by that logic, wouldn't you just want to do what the UK did and just ban all firearms under 24 inches in overall length? Pretty sure there's exemptions for Northern Ireland and Black powder revolvers though. +A nigger putting a stock on a glock does not make it more concealable than one without a stock. I think braces have only exemplified how worthless SBR/SBS laws have been. Fucking hope some form of the Hearing Protection Act goes through in the next decade or so. +--- 58081403 +>>58081394 +>well it'll be one more than you +Damn you're gonna get 4 of them? yikes +--- 58081418 +>>58081381 +guarenteed replies +--- 58081470 +>>58081403 +yeah +--- 58081484 +>>58081394 +Nogs get the mini draco for the specific fact that they like ak's cause they are brutish apes and it can fit in a bag they wear around the front of their body. If you ever see a nigger walking around with 2 or 3 other niggers and he has a big slung forward on his body, its probably got an ak in it. +Also when are you going to get a quad rail bro? please god remove that magpul handguard. You are better than this. +--- 58081517 +>Lucas utterly destroys all the anons who shit on Ash for not buying L3Harris 14s +--- 58081529 +>>58081517 +You can put your trip on ash. +--- 58081546 +>>58081484 +dude, its a $400 psa. it doesnt deserve anything good +--- 58081550 +>>58081546 +You can make literally everything better on it and then it won't be a PSA anymore. +--- 58081619 +>>58079421 + +>Bushnell Holo +>CAR-15 Stock +>Slick side +>Cut carry handle +>Retro uncut chrome bcg + +You mad lad. + +And you even rattle canned the Holo +--- 58081627 +>>58081550 +and for the cost of that i could literally get a whole new gun +--- 58081643 +>>58081627 +But you won't need to buy a new gun, You can just improve what is relevant. diff --git a/k/58078965.txt b/k/58078965.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e4026c66a34605461e5dda706683e60cd40538a6 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58078965.txt @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +----- +--- 58078965 +So, what are these things, /k/? They're spotted in war zones throughout the world. Here's the most recent video of one, taken in 2022--https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fKhqnAtnx8. +--- 58079003 +>>58078965 (OP) +It's clearly a weather balloon +--- 58079011 +>>58079003 +It's way too fast to be a weather balloon. +--- 58079023 +>>58078965 (OP) +They've been seen for centuries. +UFOs are... +>time machines/probes +>interdimensional entities or hovercraft +>aerial life forms +>advanced, secret military hovercraft or holograms +>a breakaway group's hovercraft +>aliens from another planet. +--- 58079035 +>>58078965 (OP) +I think they should have chosen a more interesting video for the hearing +--- 58079043 +Is it really this easy to fuck with alien conspiritards. +--- 58079081 +Here's another one, but this one is going really slow and could be a balloon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WZN0T_54xY [Embed] +--- 58079097 +>>58079043 +Is that why the US government is taking this seriously? +--- 58079130 +Here's one from 2021, footage released in 2022. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJlyCL1NrjI [Embed] +--- 58079163 +>>58079097 +Is the US government taking this seriously? +I mean, spinning up a token department to compare archive footage....that's not serious, that's comedic. +--- 58079185 +>>58079043 +Indeed. +--- 58079241 +>>58079163 +According to this, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7514271/, yes +>In December of 2017 it was revealed that the United States government had been studying UAPs through at least one secret program called the Anomalous Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) +--- 58079251 +>>58078965 (OP) +Fabrications, it's just people trolling other people but at an incredible level +--- 58079274 +Either someone (probably US) has impressive black programs about to be revealed or the general public and truther schizos needed to be distracted from something else +--- 58079293 +>>58079241 +My point exactly. Classification is impressive to retards who have never interacted with government and want to believe in something; but for everyone with a hint of experience this is on par with grants for studying endangered gay fish in Colorado rivers. +--- 58079380 +>>58078965 (OP) +I wouldn't worry about it. +--- 58079405 +>>58079011 +It appears to be stationary to me. +--- 58079475 +>>58078965 (OP) +i don't like that +--- 58079505 +>>58079241 +>the government always lied about UFOs +>but also they're telling the truth this time +I know you didn't say that, or even imply the first part, but it's definitely something to keep in mind. +--- 58079506 +>>58079293 a DoDIG investigation found proof that higg ranking religious idiot officers were squashing reports of threatening and potentially hostile ufo craft because they thought those were “demons” or would hurt their religious belief. Imagine +--- 58079549 +>>58079293 +I'm a bio major, my dream is to one day get a similar government gay grant +--- 58079757 +>>58079023 +They're just angels. +--- 58079934 +>>58078965 (OP) +I read an interesting explanation that this sort of technology (flying without external proportion) is possible with the use of earth's magnetic field +I just hope its not China +--- 58080021 +>>58079934 +>>58079274 +They're either pic related... +>>58079757 +>>58079023 +or +>angels +>aliens +which by technical definition these are the same thing (angels would be intelligent entities not native to earth) +--- 58080045 +>>58078965 (OP) +There was a great larp thread on /x/ recently that was pretty convincing. Apparently aliens build these craft, most of which are drones. They seem to be here to monitor us and are very interested in war, conflict and nuclear/radioactive stuff. Their propulsion system uses elements we can’t yet make and generates gravity to distort spacetime. I’ve actually seen one of these silver orbs years ago. +--- 58080126 +>>58080045 +Someone posted a giant infographic about how they skip around the edge of time in addition to space +--- 58080135 +>>58080021 +Forgot pic +--- 58080758 +You're going to laugh when you find out what those are. It's not time travel, it's temporal displacement in multiverse probability ranges quantum entangled to their probability line. The equivalent of kids visiting a history museum, only looking at mostly history with less than .002% variance. Higher variances are studied as thought exercises given actual observation. For really dangerous observations, researches will use these versions as well. If they were rarely seen, get scared. Means you are in a research probability line and that usually means everyone is going to die. Especially relax if any crash like what happened in Brazil. Kids make mistakes. Kids also like to break rules. Like placing a quantum entangled phone in one of those observation probes and getting it to an ancestor. That's very dangerous. It can fuse the probability line often resulting in "crashing" the temporal displacement and wiping out a huge number of existences within the multiverse. Or causing them to go very improbable which is usually terrible for that reality. Not always terrible. Hopefully they don't suddenly disappear with no further sightings. That would mean this probability range is quarantined. That means something truly horrific is about to happen and they don't want to risk is potentially spreading. Pure nightmare fuel type of stuff. +--- 58081566 +>>58078965 (OP) +That's my left testicle. I was scratching my nuts and it slipped into frame, sorry about that. +--- 58081602 +>>58080758 +I'm not nearly high enough for this shit man. +--- 58081623 +>>58080758 +Is it bad if I don’t believe in “multiverse’s” and just think “time” is basically just space and relativity of one “thing” to another “thing”? Thus there isn’t really anything beyond just that? +With my retard brain, I did skim through the double-slit experiment and that entaglement thing, but I just get this dumb primate feeling that the universe is much more simple than everyone hypes it up to be. +--- 58081630 +>>58078965 (OP) +>sky news diff --git a/k/58079090.txt b/k/58079090.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..862b9d671aadd01640c8f241ed2edf745743e09c --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58079090.txt @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@ +----- +--- 58079090 +Why doesn't anyone talk about these niggas? +--- 58079169 +>>58079090 (OP) +They're like American SEALs except with a funny accent they manage to hide by actually being able to shut the fuck up and just do their job like quiet professionals. +--- 58079232 +>>58079090 (OP) +Aren't they just the rides for the regular SAS and when things fuck-up serve as a B-Team. +--- 58079675 +>>58079090 (OP) +every time someone tries we get their acronym confused with short barreled shotguns and start talking about those instead +--- 58079687 +>>58079675 +I love SBSs +--- 58079708 +>>58079232 +SBS is the Navy SAS they have the same exact selection. During the GWOT SAS got Iraq and SBS got Afghanistan. Amazingly both are very good about keeping their mouths shut. +--- 58079716 +>>58079687 +same +--- 58079719 +>>58079090 (OP) + +I reckon for the same reason they’re not nicknamed the “Special Bookmaker’s Service”, unlike some people. Also, they weren’t at the Embassy siege, I guess. +--- 58079756 +>>58079090 (OP) +I'm going to be honest Special Boat Service is a dumb name. When I hear Special Air Service I think about dudes parachuting out of airplanes. When I hear Special Boat Service I just imagine a bunch of dudes on a canoe. +--- 58079817 +>>58079756 + +Well, the official title for SBS members is still swimmer-canoeist, so you’re not exactly far off. +--- 58079948 +>>58079756 +>When I hear Special Boat Service I just imagine a bunch of dudes on a canoe. +Same but to be for they have pretty fucking cool canoes +--- 58081292 +>>58079090 (OP) +Extremely small unit. There's only like 200-250 dudes in the SBS at any given time. By contrast American SOF and SF are massive with thousands of members, so just by virtue of statistics (and the fact that I've seen them) we've had SEALs, Rangers, and Green Berets post here. On the other hand SBS is small enough that there may never have been a member to post on 4chan, and if he did, he might have not posted on /k/, and if he did post on /k/ he didn't talk about SBS ever. +--- 58081304 +>>58079756 +>tactically inserting into the AO by paddling a kayak through the sewers and out the toilet, catching the target while he is on the crapper +--- 58081342 +>>58079708 +>both are very good about keeping their mouths shut. +It's not that, it's because the SBS speak only in dolphin clicks +--- 58081553 +>>58079090 (OP) +I read that as "By Strength and Glue" for a second and was very confused as to what they meant by that. +--- 58081762 +>>58081553 +They put the King's enemies in sticky situations +--- 58081776 +>>58081762 +>King's +If feels weird that the Queen is dead +She's been on the throne for so long that it just feels wrong to say King now +--- 58081786 +>>58079708 +If I had lost two wars I wouldn't talk about it either +--- 58081812 +>>58079948 +thunder_in_paradise_theme.mp3 diff --git a/k/58079269.txt b/k/58079269.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1631c54dadc8319077809dff5b394c0d63660477 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58079269.txt @@ -0,0 +1,41 @@ +----- +--- 58079269 +Is there any real reason to ever use this? +--- 58079279 +>>58079269 (OP) +>he's never needed to quickly regulate his blast in a tactical situation +Tell me your a poser without saying you're a poser. +--- 58079439 +>>58079269 (OP) +It's basically a device you'd put on an AR pistol/sbr to be courteous to someone shooting next to you. +--- 58079470 +Yes actually. It's not good as a suppressor or flash suppressor but it is good for redirecting concussive blasts. If you have a linear compensator or a device like that on your muzzle and point it somewhere, a lot of the concussion will be directed in a stream downrange so it will be nicer to your range buddies or disorient/deafen/concuss anyone you are shooting at in a defensive or combat shooting. It has its uses but I'd always take a supressor if I had a choice +--- 58079484 +>>58079269 (OP) +>want to larp like you have a suppressor +>don't want to give the ATF your fingerprints, mugshot, ballsack print, ass pics, DNA sequence, dog's maiden name +--- 58079918 +>>58079439 +why on god's earth would I want to do that? +--- 58080091 +>>58079484 +Exactly. This is for poors. +--- 58080100 +>>58079269 (OP) +Cant you get the mount cut off and converted to 1.375 so you can use the surefire mount on other suppressors? +--- 58081766 +>>58079918 +Don't be dick +--- 58081811 +>>58080100 +Do you have a hacksaw and a welder? +--- 58081857 +>>58080100 +Maybe but the Surefire mount sucks anyway +--- 58081868 +>>58080100 +>Cant you get the mount cut off and converted to 1.375 so you can use the surefire mount on other suppressors? +No, you need a SF dummy suppressor for that +>>58081811 +>a hacksaw and a welder? +Absolutely disgusting comment. Tooless retard. diff --git a/k/58079289.txt b/k/58079289.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8f3baad391508f93030090d7502e2828fcc33ead --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58079289.txt @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +----- +--- 58079289 +I started very slowly stacking some 9mm here and there since I went from nogunz to hasguns a few years ago. Now I finally have a thousand rounds of nine. Do I get some sort of award or recognition? Do I get a door prize? Am I an elite operator now? My question is, what do I do now? It's nothing for me to burn through 150-200 rounds during a range trip. How come 124gr is so much more expensive than 115gr? + +Yes I'm a poorfag btw. +--- 58079316 +>>58079289 (OP) +Buddy I'll be honest with you, the last time I did inventory I had about 59k rounds of ammo between 22lr, 9mm, .223, .308, and 12 ga. Only about 6k of that was .22lr before anyone starts reeeee'ing. +You never feel like you have enough. Ever. +Try to be happy with what you have and not think about it too much. +--- 58079330 +You’ll be adding zeroed to that. +--- 58079339 +>>58079289 (OP) +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkN9H9aLow [Embed] +--- 58079364 +>>58079316 +Nice. I got a basic variety of 12 gauge on hand. Bird buck and slugs. I'd like a plug for bulk pack slugs because $7 for five is busting my balls and that's all I ever find here. +>You never feel like you have enough. Ever. +That's what I was afraid of. I think i'd be happy as long as I can maintain the thousand rounds and just keep an extra hundred or two for practice trips. Just got a 22 and I'm still trying to figure that out. +--- 58079379 +>>58079339 +My job is shit, HR always has fifty niggers waiting. +--- 58079414 +What to do with extra ammo? + +The answer to surplus is utilization, otherwise you just hoard stuff and waste its potential. In the US, an average firefight will have only about three rounds fired. In the ME, you could only use 1-3 mags in a single firefight. But, if you run out of ammo, you are fucked. + +You can only use one rifle at a time, and you can only carry so much ammo. So it makes sense to share ammo if you need to supply multiple people. You can carry 10 mags, or 2-3 jungle taped, or even 4 on your chest. I think 140 rounds is plenty, 2x30 on the gun, 4x30 on the chest. Even stealthier is 120 rounds, 2x30 on the gun, 2x30 in pockets/waistband. No visible mags. + +This allows you to quickly dump/hide your gun and become concealed/protected appearing as an unarmed civilian. But, if you are out in a rural area, like the farms or wilderness, it is normal to be walking around with a rifle. Even just carrying a sidearm in non-rural spaces pretty normal in America, used to be normal for a man to walk around with a Bible and a 45 on his person like it's no big deal. +--- 58079419 +Fellow recent gunfag here, like people already stated shits only getting started. +Before you know it you will need a separate container like an ammo can full of each caliber and then you allocate a shelf per caliber. +I got started two years ago and I am in it deep, currently struggling with loading brand new Beretta mags which fucking sucks, spring is ridiculous. + +Also a poorfag but now got enough money in firearms that if another ban happened I become a millionaire overnight, I made plenty from the 7.62x39 russian ban. +Good job nigga, now get more. +--- 58079426 +>>58079379 +Ain't gotta use such hateful language +--- 58079428 +>>58079289 (OP) +>not 124 gr +You have AIDS, don't you? +--- 58079502 +>>58079414 +>hoard stuff and waste its potential +I figure it might be better to have some ammo stockpiled than have cash sitting around that depreciates in value almost overnight. From what I've seen the past few years ammo seems to hold it's value better than the us dollar. +--- 58079526 +>>58079428 +No. 115 is much more common and cheaper around here. If I want 124gr I gotta drive out 40 minutes. +--- 58079536 +>>58079289 (OP) + +115gr is a lighter ammo, typically designed for range days and practicing. 124gr weighs more, therefore costs more +--- 58079558 +>>58079536 +What's your opinion on hollow points for defense that aren't 147gr? Did I buy meme ammo because my hps are in 115gr too? I figured it makes sense to buy what I practice with. +--- 58079592 +>>58079289 (OP) +Anon ......... + +The first month I got my first 9mm I shot 1000 rounds through it and had over 1000 rounds in the back of the closet. The least amount of 9mm I've ever had in the house since then was about 500 rounds, and it's often closer to 2000. On range day I typically pack 5 boxes of 50 or whatever equivalent and usually come home with about one box or slightly less. + +Nobody ever gave me a pretty ribbon for my personal sacrifice. +--- 58079660 +>>58079289 (OP) +I went to Cabelas earlier this week and 124gr blazer brass was the cheapest option at 15 a box, everything else was 17+. I bought 4 boxes. Alaska though, our prices are generally shit. +--- 58079775 +>>58079660 +$14.99 for 115gr here if it's remington umc or blazer. 124gr seems to be $19 and up. diff --git a/k/58079436.txt b/k/58079436.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3242576d75cc3e00f3db12145a0da755cbe7d87a --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58079436.txt @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +----- +--- 58079436 +are there any channels similar to ArmedScholar that cover the same topics but don't have this ugly fucker staring me down like a tik tok faggot? +His face fills me with disgust. +--- 58079447 +>>58079436 (OP) +Zak Bagans gained some weight huh. +--- 58079449 +>>58079436 (OP) +What? You don’t like his dumb copy/paste video still images? +--- 58079465 +>>58079449 +I didn't want to complain about those but for fucks sake the flood my home page like every other video and words cannot describe how much that same image of Biden with the hand fills me with rage. +--- 58079483 +>>58079436 (OP) +just listen in background while lurking /k/, /pol/ or your tranny porn and stop bitching like a teenage girl +--- 58079487 +You can like just minimize the browser chud +--- 58079490 +>>58079447 +Physical fitness is very important if you want to be effective in a life or death situation, not just firearms. I enjoy lifting weights and cardio exercise, and I try to stay in peak physical form for my health and for hunting as well. If you are more physically fit than the enemy, then you have a great advantage. If you are not overweight or obese in the USA, you are in the minority really. +--- 58079498 +>>58079487 +lol this is your channel isn't it +--- 58079511 +>>58079483 +>>58079487 +You faggots miss the point, I want to ACTIVELY watch the video so that I can retain the information better, I don't need multiple forms of stimulation to keep my zoomer brain active you fucking dumbasses. +--- 58079542 +Never respect fat people. They don't respect themselves so why should you? +--- 58079559 +Four Corners Diner is a 2A attorney and there’s some thot wife husband couple to like Attorneys with guns. +--- 58079562 +>>58079436 (OP) +Yes. Tom Greive +Hes a good lawyer. Similar talk about gun laws and rulings +https://youtu.be/lGExyP_ktXY [Embed] +--- 58079571 +>>58079559 +Armed attorneys are fudd to the max. I would not listen to that click bait garbage. +--- 58079586 +>>58079562 +>>58079559 +Thank you anons, that's all I needed + +This thread can die now +--- 58079591 +>>58079511 +>i need to see someone sitting in a chair while talking to hear the words better. + +Yeah, sounds like you dont need any distractions there you room temp IQ faggot. How about you pull out your etch a sketch and take some notes Mr. Autismo. +--- 58079622 +>>58079591 +>doesn't understand critical listening and information retention +lol, lmao even +--- 58079642 +>>58079511 +>needs to actively stare at the person to retain the information +this is some advanced retardation, about par the course for someone who gets their information from fucking youtube videos of all places +--- 58079672 +>>58079447 +I met Zak Bagans at his museum in Vegas when I was doing a late-night lights-out tour. He really does talk like that in real life. +--- 58079681 +>>58079436 (OP) +there are a few, and like him are totally worthless it's all clickbait with >"WINNING!" +>"GAMECHANGING!!!" +>LETS GO +>"NO MORE NFA!!!", +but every video is pic related +--- 58079792 +>>58079571 +The dude in OP pic is the worst with the click bait titles and he’s always 2-3 days behind the news cycle. “END OF NFA” +--- 58080098 +>>58079436 (OP) +It's the constant clickbait bullshit that gets me about his garbage. Every new video is a glorious grand victory for 2a rights, or a devastating, panic inducing defeat. +--- 58080128 +>>58079436 (OP) +holy fuck is this fat fuck faggot so annoying with his click bait thumbnail “NO MORE NFA” “BREAKING NEWS” and then the video is just a docket update. why do people watch this faggot anymore +--- 58080157 +>>58079436 (OP) +I fucking hate that guy and refuse to even click on any of his videos. Every one of his videos that I have seen has a blatantly lieing click bait title that is objectively false and intentionally misleading. + +TheFourBoxesDiner is one of if not the best analytical 2A channels. +--- 58081036 +>>58079436 (OP) +copper jacket tv +reno may +guns & gadgets +mrgunsandgear +libertydoll +--- 58081089 +Is this really necessary? +--- 58081098 +I feel like his video titles are just clickbait. It'll be something like "ATF PISTOL BRACE BAN STRUCK DOWN" and then I watch the vid and that's not what happened at all. I like white pills but I think this dude is just bullshitting. diff --git a/k/58079568.txt b/k/58079568.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..566b13941b89e59a34060017d9096f87360120ec --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58079568.txt @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +----- +--- 58079579 +>>58079568 (OP) +They just banned rape whistles for potentially hurting an assailants ears, so cross that off the list +--- 58079609 +lube +--- 58079656 +>>58079568 (OP) +only way to avoid self defense prison is to an hero when attacked +--- 58079784 +>>58079568 (OP) +Back bacon +A two-four of Labatt's +--- 58079899 +>>58079568 (OP) +Not living in a gun infested shithole. so an unarmed Canadian is much safer than an armed American. And that's even without the propensity of gun carriers to hurt or kill themselves more often with their gun than being saved by it. +--- 58079943 +>>58079899 +yeah but I mean, what if a homeless schizo pulls out a needle? +>hurr durr just don't live in cities +no +--- 58079967 +>>58079568 (OP) +Nothing. Even having something legal, if carried for the purpose of self defence, becomes illegal. +--- 58079997 +>>58079568 (OP) +Cock +--- 58080069 +>>58079899 +boy i sure am glad i dont live in a knife infested shithole +--- 58080079 +>>58079568 (OP) +Well, you're not carrying them, but a quality pair of running shoes will keep you alive more than any non-gun weapon will. +--- 58080094 +>>58080069 +A whole 7% of violent crime is crimes, 5% clubs and 3% firearms? So 85% are much less dangerous fists? + +Seems like gun control is working. +--- 58080137 +>>58079568 (OP) +They don't have rights because they chose not to revolt against the Crown. End of story. + +Did I miss anything truly important? +--- 58080184 +>>58080079 +Look what they did to their glorious Heroes of the Great Patriotic War who were maimed or wounded: + +1. Declared them politically unreliable. Spied on them, accused them of espionage. They feared the disabled might provoke subversive sentiments. To be fair, there were 10M of them. + +2. Ordered the destruction of photos depicting individuals or groups with amputated limbs, disfigured faces, or blindness + +3. Gave them cruel nicknames like “Scooters”, “kangaroos”, “samovars, and “Flounders” + +4. Maimed veterans who were homelessness were charged with of “parasitism” and shipped off to poorly financed and equipped Invalids’ Homes in distant regions far from family. They died in droves. + +5. Refused to include them in parades or celebrations. +--- 58080200 +>>58080184 +what the fuck are you fucking talking about retard +--- 58080231 +>>58079568 (OP) +Literally nothing, the law specifically states that if you carry around absolutely anything with the intention of using it for self defence, it becomes an illegal weapon, you MIGHT get away with it if the object you used as a "weapon" was a common item that someone could legally and legitimately carry on their person at any random time, but even then there's a good chance they'll try to bring you in on weapon charges, because the government actually hates you and laughs when you die (if you're white). +A few years back Alberta wanted to legalize pepper spray for self defence and people (mostly people who weren't even from Alberta) absolutely lost their minds, their logic (you're gonna get a kick out of this) was that if you made it legal to carry pepper spray, then criminals who intended on committing a crime would carry it around (you can already buy pepper spray in any sporting goods store over the counter for bear defence and shit). +I hate this country so fucking much, the whole thing seems like a social experiment that was a miserable failure but they refuse to the pull the plug and pray at some point it magically starts working. +--- 58080240 +>>58080200 +Wrong thread +--- 58080257 +>>58080231 +I legitimately should carry around dog spray in toronto because there's people who walk pitbulls around my neighborhood but now that i'm posting about it if I ever used it in a self defense situation they're dig up this post and nail me with it, ah well +--- 58080315 +You can carry a knife while technically illegal you can just say that it’s for work. If you live in the right area you could carry some bear spray +--- 58080326 +>>58080315 +dogspray is far more practical than bear spray +--- 58080332 +>>58079899 +>>58079967 +>>58080094 +>>58080231 +Canada is such a fucking Fascist shit hole +--- 58080364 +>>58079579 +That can't be true. I know Trudeau is a goddamned communist, but even he hates rapists. +--- 58080377 +>>58079568 (OP) +BBCs. They have to remain holstered in their mouths at all times, though. +--- 58080380 +>>58079899 +>The homeless guy's dog when I tell him it's illegal for him to bite me + +More than one way to get deaded, leaf. +--- 58080385 +>>58079568 (OP) +Nothing. Carrying anything for the explicit purpose of self-defence is illegal. +--- 58080390 +>>58079568 (OP) +Anything if you can fit it in your ass +--- 58080395 +Suicide pills free from the government +--- 58080412 +>>58080332 +Watch it and learn from it anon, our gun laws were actually great before the 1980's and we could own virtually everything Americans could, and then it turned into a slow but steady downwards spiral. +The faggification of Canada should be taught in American schools to make sure burgers never make the same mistakes. +--- 58081377 +>>58080094 +If you're really worried about deadliness instead of trolling then target the knives and clubs. Good luck doing any of that at all. +--- 58081861 +>>58079568 (OP) +I think, you can carry trudeau. +I mean, is there a law against it ?! +--- 58081924 +>>58080364 +>but even he hates rapists. +are you sure about that diff --git a/k/58079714.txt b/k/58079714.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3fc4c912f90f38b22bcefa9c5dd3239940254601 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58079714.txt @@ -0,0 +1,129 @@ +----- +--- 58079714 +How accurate are High Point? + +Do people just assume they're bad because they're cheap? +--- 58079730 +>>58079714 (OP) +>Do people just assume they're bad +Yeah it's definitely not because it's a 2lb pot metal brick +--- 58079743 +>>58079730 +I've never heard of one having a catastrophic failure. So that doesn't sound like a real issue. How is the accuracy? That's all I care about. +--- 58079753 +Accuracy isn't the issue. The guns themselves are fine but... + +They are heavy chunks of cheap ass metal that are a little harder to handle than say, a GLAWK. They have issues with almost any aftermarket, or even company bought product other than the normal mags, and lastly, limited capacity because as i said, as soon as you try an extended mag, you run into issues. + +If you want one as a "fuck it, i don't care what happens to it" gun, you can get nothing better. If you want a good EDC, you have numerous better options. +--- 58079767 +>>58079714 (OP) +59 percent accuracy rate against others. +--- 58079782 +>>58079753 +The only thing I care about is the accuracy. I've shot a lot of guns but I've never owned one. I go to dear camp and someone hands me a gun. I'm not picky. Limited handgun experience overall but if it shoots straight i can probably make it work. It's just for self defense since this is a very bad rural neighborhood. +--- 58079791 +>>58079767 +Any links to actual testing? If so what do you recommend that's cheap, reliable and accurate? +--- 58079814 +>>58079791 +Yeah, here you go, anon. + +https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27380151/ +--- 58079821 +>>58079782 +>accuracy +>self defense +>rural + +Get an AR. PSA makes $300 AR-15s. Handguns are hard to use, you'd likely have the same accuracy with your Ghetto Blaster Hi-Point and a Gucci-Glock. You have to train with pistols a lot more than a rifle. If you absolutely must have a pistol, get a used Glock. + +Accuracy is not necessarily an issue with Hi-points. But overall reliability is, and yes their sights do suck so that would play into your accuracy question. Lastly, they are heavy and your bitch wrists may feel some strain. +--- 58079901 +>>58079821 +Last pistol I shot was a heavy old 38 snub nose. Weight isn't the issue. The problem with a rifle is going to be visibility. I need to be able to carry it into town. Nearest real town is Springfield Missouri. Google the crime statistics. They have neo nazis on meth robbing banks. +--- 58079923 +>>58079901 +Name of one of the big gangs is the Southwest Honkies +--- 58079933 +>>58079901 +If you want a Hi-point, go get one. They suck for multiple reasons. I've told you. You can't do anything to them after you buy them, they're heavy, and they have shitty sights (that you cannot replace, at least not cheaply or easily) +--- 58079958 +>>58079933 +The sight thing is why i won't get one then. I don't care about the rest. It can be clunky, it can be heavy. The only things I care about are price and accuracy. I don't need 30 rounds. +--- 58079964 +>>58079923 +I don't care. I literally do not care what the motivations of shitty humans are. They have better guns than your Hi-Point, and you are ok with being outgunned. + +Also just going off of your main concerns and OP post, They also didn't cut their wieners off. So you have the hand to hand disadvantage as well. +--- 58079983 +>>58079821 +can you link me to one of these $300 ar-15s? I can't find them. +--- 58079999 +>>58079964 +I'm not trans. +--- 58080010 +>>58079958 +>muh price +>muh 30 rounds + +You have no idea what you are doing, and you need more than 30 rounds to hit shit. If you are assaulted by more than one person with a hi-point, you may hit one target but you'll be using your empty shitty gun as a brick to fend off the other guy. + +And the human skull will break the pot-metal used to create hi-points. +--- 58080031 +>>58079983 +Palmetto State Armory. Go to their site. They have gone up, but they still have sub-$500 ARs. +--- 58080036 +>>58080010 +I don't need 30 rounds to hit shit. People used to use revolvers. Thats 6 rounds. +--- 58080046 +>>58079714 (OP) +Hipoints are shit, but a shit gun is better than no gun +--- 58080081 +>>58080036 +You're an idiot. +--- 58080117 +>>58080036 +Have you considered that you can just not fire 30 rounds? Modern guns hold a lot because that's just what can comfortably fit. There's no reason for a double stack pistol to not hold 17 rounds or a rifle 30 because it's not hurting anything. And even if you had a 100 round drum, you could just, you know, not shoot more than you need to +--- 58080119 +>>58080036 +YOU need more than six rounds. You suck at shooting, because you don't shoot regularly. + +Revolvers with 7-9 round capacity have existed since the 1860's because even back then people across the world wanted more capacity, and semi0auto pistols with decent capacity became the norm in the early 1900s. You now have the ability to buy amazing weapons that give you the edge, by giving you many more shots. + +Why are you limiting yourself? +--- 58080139 +>>58080036 +I have no idea what I'm talking about, but if I were you I'd save up another ~$100-200 and get some flavor of RIA or Taurus at least. People say that Hi Point is better than Jimenez/Phoenix/whatever, but it seems like the same kind of thing to me. +--- 58080147 +>>58080031 +How cheap would it be to put a red dot on this? https://palmettostatearmory.com/blem-psa-pa-15-16-nitride-m4-carbine-5-56-nato-classic-ar-15-rifle-with-13-5-m-lok-rail-black.html +--- 58080156 +>>58080139 +I was addressing his complaint about after market magazines. 17 is fine. I don't need 30. +--- 58080159 +>>58080147 +As cheap as the red dot that you buy. The fact you have to ask...bruh... +--- 58080178 +>>58080156 +12-21 is normal depending on the caliber of pistol. 30 is normal depending on the rifle (basically any rifle that accepts magazines defaults to 30 unless you are looking at older rifles) +--- 58080698 +>>58079714 (OP) +Hi-Points are pretty... but in lack of that, and despite what all of the Gucci Glock Loyalists say...they make up for it in proven Reliability, Durability, and Excellent Value. +--- 58081288 +>>58079714 (OP) +--- 58081507 +>>58080147 +Get a Holosun 403B for it, they're pretty routinely like 130 bucks. +--- 58081522 +>>58079714 (OP) +They work and they are economical and reliable. The only downside is they are butt fucking ugly and nobody wants to make aftermarket parts for them. The carbines are excellent for Walmart-tier garbage. +--- 58081523 +>>58079714 (OP) +Just get a PSA Dagger. +--- 58081542 +>>58079983 +$35 Poverty pony lowers on special, $219 PSA parts kit. I built one and put 1,000 rounds through it. She ain’t pretty but she fucks. +--- 58081649 +this is the future of Hi-Point +I can't wait diff --git a/k/58079781.txt b/k/58079781.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6e8ca25be00f951999d7d35686af487fb8d17ef5 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58079781.txt @@ -0,0 +1,443 @@ +----- +--- 58079781 +ITT, we talk about the cringy stuff we enjoyed on /k/ in the late 2000s and early 2010s. Particular topics of interest are Max Brooks' fuddtastic and noguns, yet entertaining The Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z, zombie prepper culture, STALKER, general innawoods, and any other topic that you pine for from the golden age of /k/ + +>What was your zombie plan? +>What was your zombie loadout? +>Which melee weapon is best for fighting zombies +>Rewrite the Battle of Yonkers so it actually makes sense +>Writefag in general, show your /k/reativity +>Drawfag in general +>Talk about past STALKER or /k/ Summer Challenges +>Post or write innawoods greentexts +>Ivan Chesnokovpost +>Post your cringy relics from the era + +I said come in, don't stand there! +--- 58079796 +I had something I thought was really smart that I wanted to post in the last zombie thread, but it 404'd and now I don't remember what it was. +--- 58079797 +>>58079781 (OP) +High School of the Dead has a special place in my heart and put me on the road to owning guns. Alongside that, it got me into writing zombie fiction at a time when my life was really awful which morphed into me learning screenwriting and making graphic novels. "It was the best of times and it was the worst of times." +--- 58079798 +>>58079781 (OP) +>Rewrite the Battle of Yonkers so it actually makes sense +Tanks bulldoze every zombie +>end + +I liked Zombieland and Left 4 Dead. Good times. +--- 58079802 +Template from the last thread for making your very own 2010-style zombie apocalypse loadout. +--- 58079812 +>>58079781 (OP) +I enjoyed actually being able to shoot 5.45x39 +--- 58079827 +>>58079797 +We make fun of zombie culture now, but it honestly went a long way to making us the autistic /k/ommandos that we are today. Sure it was cringy as fuck in retrospective, but it was fun and it got a lot of people into guns and other /k/-adjacent fields. +--- 58079847 +>>58079827 +I met one of my British best friends for life on a gaming forum that was zombie apocalypse adjacent and I don't think I'd give it up for anything. I plan to make him a British Airborne kit with Lee Enfield and Browning Hi Power for being such a cool dude. +--- 58079853 +>>58079812 +At the time, it seemed like the cheap slavshit would never end. Zoomers and newfags are spoiled with their cheap ARs, but they missed the magic of cleaning cosmoline off of slavshit surplus, going innawoods with an SKS, and beating the shit out of a sticky-bolt Nugget. +--- 58079865 +>>58079853 +My dad bought me a 90 dollar nugget when I was 14. Beautiful piece of shit. +--- 58079882 +>>58079781 (OP) +A lot of this book doesn't really hold up under critical thinking but it's an extremely entertaining zombie book and that's enough +--- 58079885 +I've spent like a decade thinking about how I would fight my way back from the Rockies if I were the military commander in charge of taking back America. A few thoughts + +>drone reconnaissance and some kind of big neural network could probably predict zombie movement/concentrations well enough to plan military operations +>since zombies tend to attract each other with their moans, you can clear out 90%+ of zombies in an area just by standing in an open area, waiting for them to come to you, and then blasting them +>this is one of the few applications where autoturrets would actually be useful because they could pull off hundreds of crisp headshots in a row without ever getting tired, you could mount them on vehicles or UAVs to get a good vantage point +>some kind of belt fed 5.56 firearm would be ideal for this role due to the light ammunition, infrequent reloads, and consistent range/power +>a good TTP for clearing out an area might be to roll up into an open area with vehicles that have a couple autoturrets and a loudspeaker on them, use the loudspeaker to attract the horde, and then use the autoturrets to clean up everything that shows up, if you get overwhelmed just drive away +>clearing out highways would be a huge pain in the ass because they would be filled with abandooned vehicles and the short sight lines would allow for potentially lethal ambushes +>you could easily start on the coasts/rivers first because shipping supplies is way cheaper than driving them through a ruined wasteland with mostly destroyed infrastructure +>dealing with rebels would be really easily because the zombies will get them if they aren't holed up in a compound +--- 58079930 +>>58079882 +Yeah, as brought up in the previous thread, Brooks was clearly referencing a ton of fuddlore and Reformer bullshit. He was also clearly noguns and noswords, but I think it speaks to his ability as a writer and storyteller that we enjoyed his books in spite of all that. I remember writing a fanfiction (starring myself of course) back in the day set in the World War Z timeline using a Day By Day Armageddon diary-style format. +--- 58079962 +>>58079930 +I really enjoyed the chapters about phalanx and the ones set in europe +--- 58080039 +>>58079781 (OP) +IMO, Day by Day Armageddon was better. +--- 58080276 +>>58079865 +Normally, we waste our time discussing what we’d do in an infection only scenario. What we we should actually ask ourselves is how we’d handle ourselves in situations like Night of the Living Dead where any recently deceased are getting back up regardless of bites. +Now I have no doubt that the army would be more than capable of fighting undead ghouls, especially in the countryside. The bigger question is how the hell do you suppress an enemy that is seemingly everywhere? + +Naturally, the only way to actually ensure 100% solid containment would be to somehow monitor everyone’s heart beat, which is impossible. Thousands die in the US every day from allergic reactions, car crashes, heart attacks, cancer, you name it. +I’m of the opinion that public order would immediately breakdown as hysteria would immediately rise from this event. Which only exasperates the rise of bite victims. +I have to ask /k/, how do you realistically protect the civilian populace here? I cannot imagine how you do this with most of your cops and national guard bugging out to protect their own families. Maintaining supply routes would probably be total hell as well. + +I feel that most likely you’d have rogue armies seizing their own bases and local energy sources. Humanity is definitely not gonna lose but life will certainly be harder now that death itself is gone. +--- 58080287 +>>58080276 +I didn’t intend to respond to you directly anon, it was for the thread as a whole. My apologies. +--- 58080301 +>>58079885 +imagine intentionally drawing hordes to rebel holdouts. +--- 58080409 +Always felt like the best most realistic "zombie" media wasn't even "zombies" at all. Namely 28 Days Later and the INFECTED or The Last of Us and the INFECTED or I am Legend and the NOT-VAMPIRES. Scenarios where you can see how the military and civilization fell. +--- 58080444 +>>58079781 (OP) +Day by Day Armageddon was million times better. It's not a survival guide, but you can learn more from that series than you could from that stupid book you posted. +--- 58080457 +I miss the challenges so much +--- 58080500 +>>58079781 (OP) +>It's eviction night at the Big Brother house, but something very strange is happening; the dead are coming alive and attacking the living. When zombies attack all of the audience outside, the Big Brother contestants are unaware of the death outside the fan-proof (and zombie-proof) big brother house until the show's runner, Kelly, comes into the house and warns them of the doom outside. +--- 58080535 +>>58080444 +That shit made me want a Nomex OD green flight suit and a CAR-15. >:( +--- 58080589 +>>58080535 +Same. Don't forget John was fucking shit up with a .22 +Also the hate for canary yellow Humvees that came from this. +--- 58080623 +>Night of the living Dead ends with all the zombies being killed by people with guns +as it would happen. +--- 58080630 +>>58080444 +No DbDA was fucking shit and the retard writing it has a sixth grade education level. It read as though an enlisted man wrote it. +--- 58080662 +>>58080630 +>active personal writes a book. +>reads like an active personal writes a book. +Author was active duty pilot at the time, so I know he's smarter than you. +--- 58080701 +>>58080623 +Yes, but the dead are going to continue to rise regardless of bites. This would be impossible to contain. +--- 58080706 +>>58080444 +I liked both of them at the time. I need to go back and re-read Day By Day Armageddon because I don't actually remember any of the story anymore other than it being in a diary format. +--- 58080719 +>>58079781 (OP) +>In the small town of Pontypool, Ontario, radio announcer Grant Mazzy is accosted by a nonsensical woman who repeats the word "blood" several times before staggering away. + +>At the radio station, Grant's shock jock style and on-air persona entertain his technical assistant, Laurel-Ann, while irritating his station manager, Sydney. Helicopter reporter Ken Loney calls in with a report about a riot at the office of Dr. Jon Mendez that has resulted in numerous deaths. After Ken is unexpectedly cut off, the group tries to confirm his report, but their witnesses are disconnected before being put on the airwaves. + +>Pontypool Full Feature Film +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ4DmindUIA [Embed] +--- 58080723 +>>58080662 +--- 58080731 +>>58080589 +Canary yellow? Are you talking about the Hummer him and the Afghani sniper get later on? +--- 58080735 +>>58080701 +the recently dead who havent had their brain destroyed, that is +the NOTLD zombie doesnt bother trying to ground their zombies in realistic science, they assume its either a virus or space radiation from venus, but its never definitively settled in the original "of the dead" series + +funnily enough they acknowledge that the zombies are little threat on their own, only dangerous when youre cornered by them +because romero was interested in the social ramifications of the total destruction of modern society, with the zombies just a convenient way to bring it about +which is why "the humans were the real monsters: is a recurring theme, the zombies can literally be shoved out of the way but humans are too short-sighted to come together to destroy them + +genuinely refreshing take in the old days, its just that its been too heavily copied without improvement over and over that people got sick of it +--- 58080749 +>>58079781 (OP) +>Rewrite the Battle of Yonkers so it actually makes sense +I'd reduce the scale of the battle and recontextualize it into the zombie war's version of the Tet Offensive. The plan was simple, get about 3 companies worth of troops along with some engineers and a few artillery pieces, find a decently defensible position, dig in, and use the zombies' propensity to chase sounds to lure them in. Since sound only travels so far you've got a finite number of zombies to deal with. Once you're no longer getting attacked, you head up a couple miles away, dig in, and do it again, keep it up in a grid pattern and slowly build an area relatively zombie free to stage major operations. Of course on the ground shit goes wrong. Number of local zombies is underestimated, meaning that they're thrown into full battle before a defensive perimeter can be fully constructed. While swarms had been encountered before, Yonkers was the first recorded instance of mass herding behavior by the zombies which pit the troops against several orders of magnitude more zombies than anticipated. And because they weren't able to effectively create fortifications, eventually the zombies were able to breach the perimeter and did so on several occasions. However, the fire base was never overrun, aerial bombing and artillery was highly effective against the horde, and when the mission was called off due to logistical issues they were able to evacuate everyone with only a few dozen casualties to thousands of zombies killed. But that was irrelevant, the public didn't see a successful evac of a mission that managed 1000:1 k/d ratio despite things going sideways from the outset, all they saw was some private getting chewed up on camera and a miles long horde of zombies, and freaked. Desertion skyrocketed, cohesion broke down, and everyone started panicking that the government couldn't help them. And that is what let to the large-scale inability to respond militarily during the early days. +--- 58080790 +>>58079781 (OP) +>In a secret military laboratory operating under the guise of a pesticide manufacturer, there is an outbreak of a virulent bacteria. During routine work, a sealed tube is broken, releasing the secret biological weapon. +--- 58080808 +>>58080276 +Most of the last thread was about a virus-borne zombie outbreak, but I think the Romero style zombies would make a different, but equally interesting deep dive. Not knowing how the zombies function, whether their bodies can repair themselves, or how fast they decompose, if at all, limits speculation a bit, but there are a few possibilities as to how societies would deal with this kind of thing. I'd personally imagine communities ending up as smaller, more tight-knit settlements. + +>Most settlements have some kind of physical barrier around the main population center +>Farmland and areas where full fortification is not feasible need to be constantly patrolled, either by dedicated professionals or as a shared communal duty +>Anyone that's likely to die via illness, injury, or old age is euthanized +>Suicide in the event of a bite is glorified as a heroic sacrifice +>Some form of highway patrol constantly guards major supply routes to keep them clear of the undead +>Cremation of the deceased is mandatory +>Someone develops subterranean zombie-disposal charges to prevent the bodies that weren't in the ground long enough to decompose from digging their way out +>The buddy system becomes a cultural cornerstone +--- 58080870 +>>58079781 (OP) +>When two bumbling employees at a medical supply warehouse accidentally release a deadly gas into the air, the vapors cause the dead to rise again as zombies. + +>[Frank shows Freddy a military drum with a dead zombie inside] +>Freddy : Oh god. Hey, these things don't leak, do they? +>Frank : Leak? Hell no. These things were made by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_J0GmN9wc [Embed] + +this movie has a number of sequels but I'd only recommend first two ones +--- 58080882 +>>58080870 +This was the first horror movie my dad let me watch with him. Fuck it brings back good memories every time I see it. +--- 58080891 +>>58080701 +>Impossible to contain +And impossible for it to reach anything approaching apocalyptic levels. Zombies that eat significant amounts of their victims aren't good at generating more zombies. +--- 58080903 +>>58080735 +>because romero was interested in the social ramifications of the total destruction of modern society, with the zombies just a convenient way to bring it about +In other words, faggot shit + +Monster movies must first and foremost be about the monster and the puzzle of defeating or surviving it. + +RETURN Chads RISE UP AND EAT THIS ROMEROFAGS BRAIN +--- 58080935 +>>58080749 +I largely agree here, especially in regards to the scale of the military force deployed. Considering that Yonkers was three months into the biggest clusterfuck in human history, I suspect that the author could've done more to emphasize how fucked the logistics were thanks to lack of manpower, clogged highways, and airports being major infection hubs as well. +I'd have liked to see a more competent military, but one operating off of a lot of assumptions. No need to have the tanks loaded with sabot ammunition, have them loaded up fully with canister rounds like anyone with half a brain would, just make it nowhere near enough to deal with what they encounter. This is a great place to introduce the concept of the chain swarm and have it be what causes the operation to fail. Have the command base their operation based on the number of zombies expected to be drawn in by the sound of gunfire, but not consider the knock-on effect of the zombies attracting even further zombies with their moaning. They've planned for thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of zombies, but their operation unintentionally concentrates the entire Eastern Seaboard's worth of zombies onto an ad hoc firebase of three companies worth of dudes. To fuck things up even more, have the operation start eventually drawing zombies in from the rear, which eventually cuts off ground-based supply and forces the soldiers to evacuate via helicopter once their position becomes untenable. It'd be the perfect opportunity to have a Fall of Saigon-style moment with the survivors being evacuated, complete with the soldiers boarding a Chinook from the rooftop of a 7/11 as the now-abandoned perimeter starts crumbling. Morale crumbling by some poor grunt getting audibly eaten over an open channel would replace the Land Warrior business and some sic fuck journo recording the guy's demise would presumably be plastered all over the internet in minutes. +--- 58080944 +>>58080891 +Presumably the zombies just need to snack on their victims long enough for the poor sod to die and reanimate, so they wouldn't fully remove the ensuing zombie's mobility. I imagine most of the deaths would come from bites where the victim escapes to succumb later, given how slow Romero zombies are. +--- 58080973 +>>58080944 +in the romero-world, bites arent necessary to turn +in night of the living dead, its implied that the bite just caused an infection that killed the girl who then rose because all recently killed turned +--- 58080974 +>>58079781 (OP) +>After a strange and insecure plane crash, an unusual toxic virus enters a quaint farming town. +--- 58080984 +>>58080944 +>Presumably the zombies just need to snack on their victims long enough for the poor sod to die and reanimate, so they wouldn't fully remove the ensuing zombie's mobility +Do you have any idea how much damage five people can do to a body in a minute? + +>I imagine most of the deaths would come from bites where the victim escapes to succumb later, given how slow Romero zombies are. +That means that their primary "reproduction" is the tiny margin of "successful attack that didn't involve one of us dying, but also not so successful that we maintained a hold of our target". +--- 58080989 +>>58080974 +I'm tired of evil-rural schlock. Lets have 50 years of degenerate cityoids being the bad guys. +--- 58081032 +>>58080973 +If I'm remembering right, getting bitten by a Romero zombie kills you in hour to days via a highly infections bite. It's not that it's a virus that turns you, it's just that you get sick, die, and reanimate like everyone else that dies. + +>>58080984 +Depends on whether or not the zombies keep eating once the person dies and reanimates, which seems to happen pretty rapidly. Theoretically a corpse could have a totally hollowed out abdominal cavity and still reanimate as a fully functional zombie as long as there's enough leg muscle to allow it to get up and move. +I think part of the reason people's zombie plans involve the Brooks-style zombies is that he set down specific rules for how zombies function, while Romero zombies don't really have a lot of consistency and have different abilities based on the individual movies. They go from being able to use tools, to being mindless corpses, to being zombies that are able to plan and communicate. +--- 58081079 +>>58081032 +Jesus, my spelling was awful there. + +I prefer the Brooks-style zombies for consistancy, but I think the infection needs to kill much more quickly than the 24 hour average stated, barring the bites on slow-burn locations to allow for the requisite "asshole hiding a bite wound" drama. +--- 58081080 +>>58079781 (OP) +Not exactly the loadout chart, but it's what I hope to look like. +--- 58081085 +>>58080457 +It’s nearly Summer and I haven’t seen a single innawoods challenge thread :( +--- 58081104 +ngd4hn +--- 58081118 +>>58080903 +This. +Zombie media peaks when it’s Man vs Nature stories. +Zombie “Man vs Man” and “Man vs Himself” stories are boring and don’t even really require the zombies to be there for the narrative. +--- 58081126 +>>58079781 (OP) +>Project Zomboid is an open-world isometric video game in development by British and Canadian independent developer The Indie Stone. The game is set in the post-apocalyptic, zombie-infested exclusion zone of the fictional Knox County, Kentucky + +>The lore of Project Zomboid and the Knox Event is given through radio broadcasts and TV channels. After about July 18, most of these channels go off air. The cause and origin of the Knox Infection are unknown. However, it is theorized by several characters on KnoxTalk, a radio station in the game, that it could be a prion disease, an act of God, or bio-terrorism. + +Weeks prior +>Foul smell in the air first noticed +July 9, 1993 (Day 0) +>Game begins, three days after the Knox Evacuation. +>First official statement given during a press conference by General John McGrew (11AM on the 9th July 1993) +July 11, 1993 (Day 2) +>ground all non-military or -medical internal and international flights (after 6pm EST) +July 12, 1993 (Day 3) +>President announces 6pm curfews in New York, Miami and L.A. +>Pictures from West Point, KY leaked from inside the Exclusion Zone: Image of a man looking to be aged thirty with blood around his mouth, bloodstained clothes, one arm raised, with the other hanging on by a thread/unattached, unconcerned by his injury and walking in a street full of corpses. +July 13, 1993 (Day 4) +>Infection confirmed to spread through fluid exchange. +>Declaration of martial law within the continental US. +July 15, 1993 (Day 6) +>People beyond the Exclusion Zone begin showing symptoms of infection without fluid contact. +July 17, 1993 (Day 8) +>The Knox Event infection confirmed in: Louisville, and the surrounding area; Cincinnati, and Columbus, Norfolk, London, Newcastle, Mogadishu, Seoul, Okinawa. +July 18, 1993 (Day 9) +>Knox Event infection confirmed in: New Orleans, Los Angeles, Berlin, Tokyo. +--- 58081137 +>>58081128 +--- 58081149 +>>58080935 +Exactly. Looking at it objectively the mission wasn't a failure; it was unsuccessful due to lack of concrete knowledge about how zombies works but at the same time validated the concept in general. And as the years went on the Battle of Yonkers kept getting getting exaggerated until instead of 300 infantry holding out for a couple of days against a hundred thousand zombies while primarily using small arms and mortars in an ad hoc defensive position it's 30,000 infantry plus a couple of tank battalions, a few dozen helicopters, an artillery brigade, fighter jets, and one or two stealth bombers getting over run by 20 million zombies in fifteen minutes. I'd also work it in to some of the later elements of the book. Why did the US Army bother adopting all the retarded weaponry instead of telling troops semi-auto only? Because a bunch of think-tank suits desperately trying to avoid getting assigned shit shoveling duty kept pushing that it was an equipment issue that caused the loss at Yonkers. What was the main method of reclaiming territory from zombies later on? Sending a bunch of troops to create multiple firebases at the same time in close proximity to diffuse zombie hordes while using long-range artillery and aerial bombing to break up chain swarms. +--- 58081172 +>>58081032 +>Depends on whether or not the zombies keep eating once the person dies and reanimates, which seems to happen pretty rapidly. +you can rip and bite a fuck of a lot of muscle between "bleeding from surface wounds" and "brain death", to say nothing of lost digits or wrenched joints. + + +>Theoretically a corpse could have a totally hollowed out abdominal cavity and still reanimate as a fully functional zombie as long as there's enough leg muscle to allow it to get up and move. +Not fully functional. This might come as a surprise to you but those muscles on people's torso do things, things relevant to the task of wrestling people to death. +--- 58081190 +>>58081172 +Anon, they're zombies and Romero-style ones at that. You have to either suspend a bit of disbelief here and there or write your own zombies with better rules. + +Actually, I like that second idea more. Run with it and describe to me how you'd make your zombies feel more grounded. +That's an open invitation for anyone, by the way. +--- 58081237 +>>58081190 +>Run with it and describe to me how you'd make your zombies feel more grounded. +paradoxically, straight up magic +--- 58081245 +>>58081237 +>everyone treats the pastor who says they are literally from hell as silly +>even though this is no more or less realistic than space radiation or a virus +>actually is a bit more plausible because demons arent necessarily constrained by logic +--- 58081254 +>>58081245 +>Stand back boy! This calls for some divine intervention! +--- 58081263 +>>58081190 +Okay, in the fifties the US government discovers a supernatural compound that can turn anything from a skeleton up into a crazed, but inteligent, berserker that hungers exclusively for human brains. They successfully contain the compound for decades, but due to a shipping error, a canister stored in a warehouse full of medical cadavers breaks open. The Compound replicates through anything killed by a Zombie, and if a corpse is burned, the smoke rapidly precipitates nearby. +--- 58081269 +>>58081237 +>>58081245 +>>58081254 +I'm now imagining a priest becoming an actual fucking Paladin and clearing out infestations with a tacticool Bible and a blessed AR-15. +--- 58081272 +>>58081126 +it's funny you say this because I distinctly recall playing the project zomboid demo back in like 2012 +then I heard it was canceled and then it wasn't and then I put 400 hours into it over 2 years +--- 58081277 +>>58081190 +--- 58081293 +>>58081263 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-CR47vMBrw [Embed] +--- 58081306 +>>58081190 +An occult researcher studying the oldest occult tome in the world accidentally summons a powerful will of evil that while incorporeal can posses the dead and even some of the living, transforming them into demonic monsters with super strength. Anyone they kill is possessed automatically. +--- 58081311 +>>58081190 +I'll say it as many times as I want, the original resident evil games probably got zombies the best, especially outbreak + +the actual outbreak lasts around 2 weeks before the government decides to cleanse the city completely with nuclear hellfire, both as an attempt to erase all evidence of its collusion with umbrella and to destroy any chance of the virus going through +--- 58081317 +>>58081311 +>I'll say it as many times as I want, the original resident evil games probably got zombies the best, especially outbreak +Realistically you'd have to drop like a thousand nuclear bombs on a city and the surrounding area to be even close to sure you got it all. +--- 58081337 +>>58081293 +Such an awesome movie. + naked lady +--- 58081341 +>>58081317 +in 3 it was a nuke, in outbreak it was a couple thermobaric warheads to boot, and in outbreak file 2 it was a shitton of missiles +as a kid I thought it was an incredibly silly idea but as an adult I realize it's probably the most efficient way to sterilize a city with zombies and other virus experiment monsters running about +--- 58081350 +>>58081341 +>a nuke +>as an adult I realize it's probably the most efficient way to sterilize a city with zombies and other virus experiment monsters running about +funny because of how return of the living dead ends +--- 58081427 +>>58081190 +>You have to either suspend a bit of disbelief here and there or write your own zombies with better rules. +>Actually, I like that second idea more. Run with it and describe to me how you'd make your zombies feel more grounded. +>That's an open invitation for anyone, by the way. +How about this +>The most autistic man in the world with a medical license develops a reagent that can bring the dead back to life but they become psychopathic and exhibit mutations. +>Due to his obsessive compulsive disorder he habitually makes more and more zombies at every opportunity, even when it places him in immediate danger. +>He constantly insists he is "making progress". +>He frequently tries to "hide" his unruly experiments storing them in areas they inevitably escape to attack the innocent and him +>While he tries to mitigate the damage (only once it begins, having virtually no reaction to the risk in advance) he is largely ineffectual. +>Somehow he keeps surviving moving to a new location and restarting his work. +--- 58081658 +>>58081190 +I'm going mostly Brooks Zombies, but with some modification + +Addressing the issue of zombies not falling apart in a week +>Zombies gain a level of self repair from consuming human flesh, which allows their muscles to keep working +>The zombie's altered cellular anatomy allows energy from devoured flesh to be absorbed directly into the zombie's tissue and distributed throughout its body, regardless of whether it has an intact digestive system +>If no living human flesh is available, the zombie's body will start cannibalizing internal organs in a highly efficient process that can keep them functional for several years without additional food + +To address slow spreading rates, I'd adjust the infection timeline and allow for asymptomatic spread +> A solid bite will rapidly kill and reanimate a healthy individual over the course of an hour or so +>Weak bites, or bites in less-vascular areas may take up to a few days as the infection builds in the host +>During this incubation period, the host can spread the virus through any manner of fluid transfer (IE sneezing into the air, where the droplets come into contact with another victim, who then begins their own incubation period) + +That's all I can think of at the moment. I'll add more later if inspiration strikes. +--- 58081673 +>>58080749 +>>58080935 +That's a pretty good Yonkers rewrite concept, the one I had in mind was it being fought by all the soldiers responding initially to the New York outbreak spiraling out of control, so they're light troops equipped to set up quarantine zones and checkpoints - at most, elements of a Stryker BCT without heavy equipment since that takes time to deploy and logistics are turning into an utter nightmare with smaller outbreaks springing up like wildfire. When it becomes obvious the city is turning into an absolute deathtrap with the number of zombies exponentially increasing by the day the Army pulls out to set up an ad hoc defensive line at Yonkers that they soon have to abandon under air cover since they're not prepared to fight more or less the entire newly undead population of Manhattan. +--- 58081679 +>>58079797 +RIP to the author. Absolute tragedy he died before he could finish the series. +--- 58081683 +Return of the Living dead, in spite of being a horror comedy, is probably the scariest zombie setting. +>only way to dispose of zombies is complete destruction of the body by either fire or other means of disintegration +>this will always cause the Trioxin to enter the atmosphere and create more zombies so it doesn’t even fucking matter +>literally anything dead gets bright back, doesn’t matter if it’s human or not +>zombies are just as intelligent as humans, able to plan, set traps and ambush +>zombies are in constant agony, can feel their injuries and decay so they’re fucking screaming constantly +>if you’re in the middle of an outbreak the best thing to do would be to shoot yourself in an incinerator if available or somehow burn yourself otherwise +>they don’t seem to follow any sort of logic, you dice one up and every piece comes after you, skeleton zombies and headless corpses will try to eat your brain even though they don’t have the means to actually do so +It’s a fucking terrifying situation, it’s shocking that in 5 movies nothing went beyond localized incidents. 4 and 5 nerfed the zombies to the point that body shots kill them though. +--- 58081685 +>>58081427 +Re-Animator movies are underrated +--- 58081749 +>>58081085 +be the change you want to see in this world +-some guy idk +--- 58081775 +>>58081679 +Kohta lives in my and everyone post 2011 /k/ommando's heart. + +>>58081673 +>>58080935 + +Writerfag here from the first few posts. I used to write this kind of fiction with military characters and I like this. Not enough zombie fiction covers the "middle" like DBDA, TLOU, and WW, didm Anyway. Alongside that, they'd be augmented by civilians with basic medical training and whatever's left of private security guards/the NYPD/NY State Police having to sift through people and ascertaining whether they're infected or not("Are you certain a *dog* bit you? Are you sure you fell down a flight of stairs and scratched your leg?" A lot of false positive innocent people would get shot, being mistaken for infected. The evacuation centers would be pure chaos, making Saigon and Afghanistan '21 look orderly. With the military unsure how to ascertain what constitutes an infected, and some NY National Guardsmen/LE specifically choosing their families to pick out of the crowd in order to get them out first(I'm thinking along the lines of I Am Legend). This causes more chaos and in the confusion, LE and mil end up firing into the crowd. This scenario repeats itself as people don't know if the military's there to clean up the area or if they're actually there to evacuate the uninfected. I haven't even mentioned people who haven't even been processed biting others in line or in the crowds, with the random stray infected biting others. +--- 58081819 +This is by far the best chinese cartoon book in existence. No retarded fanservice, no superhero tier highscooler MC, no sinophile foreigner characters, realistic weapons, nice zombies etc. + +You just have to ignore the last quarter, or if you are picky, last third of the story. Writers father died and from there the writing quality kinda went downhill from depression. + +Better zombies: Traits are a mix of OG Dying Light, Pic rel and to a little extent, Army of the dead and Resident Evil. +>The zombies are the result of a bioweapon attack that uses either mechanical or biological nanobots, the latter of which already exists in a very primitive form. +>The zombies start out as kind of fast runners than can degrade into shamblers or if food and water are abundant, evolve into special infected. + >The freshly turned mimic deep seated habits along with speech and have active muscle memory. +>Walkers and Runners are still alive, Shamblers are solely kept going by the nanobots working overtime. +>Initially monkey strenght and okay fine motor skills, overexertion during active mode causes damage buildup. +>Intact nanobot infected zombies have hard set life expectancy as intended. +>Corrupted or mutated nanobots result in longer lasting zombies and mutations. +>Etc. + +In short, science zombies that kind of fit into the suspense of disbelief category. If you know the listed media above you will get the picture. +--- 58081840 +>>58081775 +That would've made a really good WWZ chapter, to the point, that something like that underlining just how much of a shitshow an evacuation center in infested New York was and how it undermined public confidence in the military should've replaced the Yonkers chapter. In the book it's just kind of skimmed over what the military response is while New York outbreak is underway and it seems like they just sit on their hands for months until all of Manhattan becomes undead and they finally decide to do something. +--- 58081896 +>>58081840 +Right? Sorry for the typos. My stupid ass is phone posting. Even better would be cops recognizing their co workers and members of their family and going, "Joey wtf are you doing? go back to work." with said co workers either ratting them out to the military or looking the other way. Even the military briefings and NG/Reserve call ups I feel would be sloppy as fuck, with units either being severely understrength due to people not receiving the "come back to work call", soldiers staying home with their families, or others bugging out. With this, soldiers having already seen videos of the infected online, and their chains of command not having clear answers from the CDC, the ROE becomes "yeah they need to be actively attacking people". With the word "attacking" being construed as "The dude defending himself against a biter with a baseball bat might've been infected" causing more confusion and uncertainty in the ranks and causing innocent people to die. Video below is very much related. + +https://youtu.be/SLZ0J6-Y3oA [Embed] + +>2023 +>I remain forgotten + +Rest in peace, Richard Biggs. +--- 58081911 +>>58081775 +kind of reminds of that one part of WWZ where in some central european nation they used gas weapons on their own fleeing civies to sort out the mass +--- 58081922 +>>58081126 +Zomboid is /k/ as fuck with mods and pretty /k/ without. Shame about the UI though, you spend more time fighting it than the zombies. + +>>58081272 +>then I heard it was canceled +https://projectzomboid.com/blog/ +Wasn't cancelled, dev team had three dev laptops stolen when they were moving premises and they lost a month of progress and then a few months to a hiatus. It is still being developed and that Overwhemingly Positive is well earned if you sprinkle some vehicle, gun and QoL mods on top of it, then customize it in-game to whatever you want. +--- 58081952 +Is it un-American to prefer heavy machinery over firearms when working with zombies? +--- 58081967 +>>58081922 +they are currently looking to to add animal npc's as a first step to getting human npc's +also reworking crafting and several other skills like fishing to be more interactive +--- 58081968 +>>58081952 +why not both? +the killdozer would be an ideal zombie slaying machine +--- 58081985 +>>58081922 +I love the fun gun mods and a mounted bayonet on a rifle just makes you insanely OP. I'm glad Brita's guns and Arsenal exist. Speaking of, I'm hyped for NMRIH 2 and its character customization because my ass wants to run around as a 2011 Burt Gummer. diff --git a/k/58079811.txt b/k/58079811.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ac5eda762503a16ccbed3296493a5b470e372fd3 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58079811.txt @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@ +----- +--- 58079811 +>proficient in gatling, EMP and napalm weapons +>double barreled tanks +>liberally uses nuclear weapons +>hacks enemy satellites +>hacks the internet for money +>nuclear artillery +>fearless and determined population +we can't compete +--- 58079826 +>>58079811 (OP) +>$30M rocket +>napalm +Are they that retard? +--- 58079839 +>>58079811 (OP) +Brack Rotus lipoting! +--- 58079848 +动态网自由门天安门天安门法轮功李洪志Free Tibet 六四天安门事件The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安门大屠杀The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派斗争The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大跃进政策The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人权Human Rights 民运Democratization 自由Freedom 独立Independence 多党制Multi-party system 台湾台湾Taiwan Formosa 中华民国Republic of China 西藏土伯特唐古特Tibet 达赖喇嘛Dalai Lama 法轮功Falun Dafa 新疆维吾尔自治区The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 诺贝尔和平奖Nobel Peace Prize 刘暁波Liu Xiaobo 民主言论思想反共反革命抗议运动骚乱暴乱骚扰扰乱抗暴平反维权示威游行李洪志法轮大法大法弟子强制断种强制堕胎民族净化人体实验肃清胡耀邦赵紫阳魏京生王丹还政于民和平演变激流中国北京之春大纪元时报评论共产党 独裁 专制 压制 统一 监视 镇压 迫害 侵略 掠夺 破坏 拷问 屠杀 活摘器官 诱拐 买卖人口 游进 走私 毒品 卖淫 春画 赌博 六合彩 天安门 天安门 法轮功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 刘晓波动态网自由门 +--- 58079855 +>>58079811 (OP) +Juche being more stable than Soviet communism is probably making Lenin roll in his grave +--- 58079857 +>>58079848 +reddit +--- 58079995 +Winnie the Pooh 刘晓波动态网自由门 动态网自由门天安门天安门法轮功李洪志Free Tibet 六四天安门事件The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安门大屠杀The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派斗争The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大跃进政策The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人权Human Rights 民运Democratization 自由Freedom 独立Independence 多党制Multi-party system 台湾台湾Taiwan Formosa 中华民国Republic of China 西藏土伯特唐古特Tibet 达赖喇嘛Dalai Lama 法轮功Falun Dafa 新疆维吾尔自治区The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 诺贝尔和平奖Nobel Peace Prize 刘暁波Liu Xiaobo 民主言论思想反共反革命抗议运动骚乱暴乱骚扰扰乱抗暴平反维权示威游行李洪志法轮大法大法弟子强制断种强制堕胎民族净化人体实验肃清胡耀邦赵紫阳魏京生王丹还政于民和平演变激流中国北京之春大纪元时报评论共产党 独裁 专制 压制 统一 监视 镇压 迫害 侵略 掠夺 破坏 拷问 屠杀 活摘器官 诱拐 买卖人口 游进 走私 毒品 卖淫 春画 赌博 六合彩 天安门 天安门 法轮功 李洪志 +--- 58080019 +>Gatling + +Seems like a bad idea. Chinamen will keep getting sucked into the spinning barrel. +--- 58080028 +>>58079811 (OP) + +I conced their soundtrack is neat: + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x530q4hlv9c [Embed] +--- 58080037 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPg8qKIbIYU [Embed] +--- 58081441 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swiGWilMqeQ [Embed] +--- 58081454 +Did anyone else just spam tomahawks and infantry and just slowly rolled across the map wrecking everything with toma missiles and infantry mopping up taking losses? +--- 58081490 +>>58079811 (OP) +What’s that ridge running down the length of the missile tube? Launching fuel tank? Some kind of tank used for fuel maintenance functions? +--- 58081527 +>>58081490 +it's the anti theft tag so the units commissar doesn't sell of the ICBM for scrap metal +--- 58081551 +>>58081454 +I was that idiot kid that turtled and tried to play the US like it was fighting at the time: bombing the shit out of everything with air power and then doing air assault with the chinooks. +--- 58081560 +>>58079995 +fat amerimutt diff --git a/k/58079840.txt b/k/58079840.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3797387b9f16b51cc88734c46ac918daf9f0aa18 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58079840.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 58079840 +>The SO takes his weak hand only headshot by dabbing with his opposite arm as he fires +--- 58079905 +oh word? diff --git a/k/58079981.txt b/k/58079981.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4250126ea6236df24a763812e4d374d5a76f9020 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58079981.txt @@ -0,0 +1,53 @@ +----- +--- 58079981 +The flying firecracker (aka american wunderwaffe switchblade 300) discovered by russian units in a camouflage net. +In case anyone wondered where they went. +--- 58080005 +>>58079981 (OP) +b-but i thought cope nets didn't work?? (vatniks lied again) +--- 58080188 +>>58079981 (OP) +The switchblade is so fucking shit and expensive to boot, turns out DJI is the best kill drone manufacturer lmao. +--- 58080241 +>>58079981 (OP) +>t AeroVironment crap +--- 58080355 +>>58079981 (OP) +have we seen these nets fail yet? they've become rapidly ubiquitous on both sides +--- 58080384 +>>58079981 (OP) +>switchblades +>wunderwaffe + +You fucking retard, we sent them because we wanted to get rid of them, best someone get SOME use out of the fucking things +--- 58080437 +>>58080188 +>>58080241 +>>58080384 +redpill me on the switchblade +--- 58080504 +>>58080437 +Suicide drones good at killing HVTs. They can precisely target soft targets or hard targets depending on the model. But it gave the isis/al-Qaeda a scare because their leaders were getting popped off out of nowhere. +--- 58080538 +>>58080437 +They're the personification of the American equipment stereotype. They work, but theres cheaper options that are quite literally just as good. +--- 58080540 +>>58080188 +The switchblade costs half as much as a single mortar round for Americans, that's probably just hilarious condemnation for their military industrial complex though +--- 58080554 +>>58080538 +>but theres cheaper options that are quite literally just as good. +Like what? They're designed for contested theaters, unlike the chinkshit drones. They've lost 1,500 chinkshit drones, and barely ever recover them. +--- 58080629 +>>58080540 +>switchblade costs half as much as a single mortar round +t deeply retarded +--- 58081239 +The flying firecr-ACK +--- 58081614 +>>58080437 +Promotional material leans heavily into avoiding collateral damage. I think it was meant to Obama administrations solution to bombing afghan weddings. +--- 58081774 +>>58081614 +>>58080437 +Switchblade was conceived by Special Ops requirement. They found in Afghanistan many cases when covert S Ops teams had eyes on target of opportunity but no means to reliably kill them. Snipers rifles despite whatever fairy tales snipers like to tell are not reliable besides close range. Thus rapid deployment program for compact guided weapon that recon team can take with it and hit person or car miles away. diff --git a/k/58080085.txt b/k/58080085.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2b4c987b3cc8528291f85c99712945c81555e1e9 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080085.txt @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +----- +--- 58080085 +How do I improve on the design of the basic sling to create a more effective home defense weapon? Is it even legal to use a sling in self defense? +--- 58080093 +Do I have to get a concealed carry permit to carry my sling around in my pocket? Do you think I could make a concealed rock-holder to keep ammo on my person at all times? + +This project is expanding in scope rapidly. +--- 58080165 +>>58080093 +wrap it around your waist like Goku +--- 58080306 +>>58080085 (OP) +>improve on the design of the basic sling to create a more effective home defense weapon +It would be better at home defense if you didn't have to swing around in a wide arc and build up momentum. +Something essentially like a sling but that you could just point and shoot. +If modern materials made this possible it would be pretty cool, you could call it a slingshoot. + +>concealed rock-holder +9v batteries or anything else small and dense with a legitimate purpose + +>even legal to use a sling in self defense +Legal as any other weapon +--- 58080602 +>>58080085 (OP) +>sling +>for home defense + +Explain to me if whether you're going to be twirling a sling at your door step trying to Balaeric sling some belligerent's dick or you're going to be patrolling around your yard looking to sling a tard from afar. + +Just get a slingshot and make some lead balls/buy some ball bearings if you're looking for something that is a non-lethal form of home defense. You're not gonna be able to twirl a sling in a close quarter home defense situation as 90% of home defense situations happen right at the home's entrance. + +>b-buh slingshots aren't legal in my state +Then make a homemade one with wood and surgical tubing, depending on the severity of the home invasion, aim for the dick if it's just a crackhead wandering on to your doorstep. Anything more than that, you aim for the fag's face specifically their teeth then destroy the slingshot after all is done. diff --git a/k/58080234.txt b/k/58080234.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..251136888f68cc72c483ac3c8b5a6e62547611e6 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080234.txt @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +----- +--- 58080234 +He lives! +And comes with another update on the shit spiral. + +https://youtu.be/i-OewG0b_ts [Embed] +--- 58080256 +I'm not a big guy (for you), but that AK looks huge next to him. +--- 58081346 +>>58080234 (OP) +unironically literally who. diff --git a/k/58080277.txt b/k/58080277.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8da3a804dab6d64371292709cbe9e683f68f36f9 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080277.txt @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +----- +--- 58080277 +I think its the smoke launchers. +--- 58081733 +>>58080277 (OP) +If it was actually adopted it's at least a hundred times less cool. +--- 58081740 +>>58081733 +Forgot the pic +--- 58081779 +>>58081733 +You say that, yet the M48 exists diff --git a/k/58080360.txt b/k/58080360.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..34240e8ec1106a00db0570c4ce0352ed22fd6e18 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080360.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 58080360 +What suspenders do I get for a slick battle belt? +--- 58080373 +>>58075801 → +faggot +--- 58080376 +>>58080360 (OP) +Isn’t a “slick” battle belt just a belt at that point? diff --git a/k/58080548.txt b/k/58080548.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5e008e685174b1c919ec83090c0bc9dd09c9d5c0 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080548.txt @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@ +----- +--- 58080548 +Shopping for a 1911 since my Kimber fucking failed me TWICE, what are my best options that are not overpriced nor meme weapons like Kimber trash? + +I was thinking about the Colt Government since its just 900 bucks but I wanna hear your opinions. +--- 58080576 +>>58080548 (OP) +I wanna build a caspian. Good shit. +--- 58080580 +>>58080548 (OP) +CMP +--- 58080685 +>>58080548 (OP) +Dan Wesson +--- 58080815 +>>58080548 (OP) +Springfield 1911 ronin, tightest tolerance 1911, no jamming, get it in 10mm +--- 58080833 +>>58080548 (OP) +Tisas 1911, they're like $350 and everyone who owns one has been wildy surprised how good they are. Go look at reviews and youtube videos. How did your kimber fail twice? +--- 58080925 +I got this cheap Citadel for like 450. I had pretty low expectations since its Armscor, but I was pleasantly surprised. motherfucker works like a treat, and even passes a rattle test. I just wish it had bluing instead of parkerization, but I suppose I understand that I can't expect the world for just a couple bucks. diff --git a/k/58080618.txt b/k/58080618.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e9cc7effdad72520a125b672f123efc607c80404 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080618.txt @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +----- +--- 58080618 +Who was in the wrong here? + +https://youtu.be/TFT-g-9CPmg [Embed] +--- 58080627 +>>58080618 (OP) +It was your fault for not fulfilling your duty as OP; if you had sucked some cock, everyone would have relaxed and the shoot wouldn't have happened. +--- 58080639 +>>58080618 (OP) +Fuck siggers. +--- 58080644 +>>58080618 (OP) +lmao sig getting what they deserve +--- 58080668 +>>58080618 (OP) +The expert in the video lays it out: "No aspect of gun safety is dependent on the reliability of the gun. It's based on the operator ... You are the safety, not the equipment. There's a presumption that any piece of equipment could fail." + +Hence, the simplest rule ever devised: Don't point the barrel at anything you don't intend to shoot, even if you're dumb enough to place your finger on the trigger before you intend to shoot. + +Especially near your own nuts, Officer. +--- 58080687 +>>58080668 +Lame excuse for bad equipment. Some products are just bad/dangerous compared to others. Sig is the new nambu. +--- 58080697 +>>58080687 +>point gun at yourself +>get shot +>NOOOOOOO IT'S THE GUN'S FAULT + +:/ +--- 58080746 +Why didn’t Sig just copy the trigger safety like Glock or M&P? +--- 58080755 +>>58080746 +Can't be made out of a single piece of Indian pot metal. +--- 58080894 +>>58080697 +What the fuck kind of reasoning is that +Even though you should be aware of gun safety, you shouldn't have to doubt the ability of your firearm to not go off when not in use. That allows us to continue to trust good manufacturers and let's us conceal carry in more efficient ways +That said, this dumbass cop was a retard with his trigger finger and shot himself +--- 58080909 +>>58080697 +You are pointing a gun at yourself every single time you carry a handgun in a holster in almost every circumstance. +--- 58081096 +>>58080746 +--- 58081242 +>>58080618 (OP) +Why yes we do live in the post-capitalism phase. Everything is shit. Shig is in the wrong, their guns aren't safe to use. The only thing they make worth risking is the P365. +--- 58081244 +If it were a half competent civilian I’d maybe believe it was the guns fault but seeing as it’s a cop, 100% guaranteed he ND’d +--- 58081250 +>buying a gun designed by jews, and crafted by third worlders, to be used by gentiles +siggers deserve what they get +--- 58081268 +Why is his middle finger on the trigger. +--- 58081271 +How many instances of P320 accidents are just retards shooting themselves and blaming the gun, like here +--- 58081281 +>>58080618 (OP) +I gotta feel bad for the poor fucker they were pulling over. You know this dumbass yelling "It was me!" was the only thing that kept him from getting ventilated. +>inb4 cops don't just go around shooting people +This guy was so ready to finally kill somebody he pulled the trigger before he was even fully out of the car. +--- 58081312 +Cop +--- 58081360 +>>58081271 +Outside of the video of the M17 going off when dropped during the army trials, I’ve not seen any video evidence of sigs going off on their own. Every example is just some idiot ND’ing and then blaming it on the gun. +--- 58081364 +>>58080618 (OP) +vid shows he pulled the trigger with his middle finger. +--- 58081368 +>>58081360 +I know there was an instance in Canada with JTF-2 but afaik they didn’t have a correct holster and it went off when the trigger was caught somewhere +--- 58081371 +>>58080697 +A gun shouldn't fire unless you pull the trigger +--- 58081385 +>>58080697 +Previous replies to you have already stated the point so I just want to mention you are a homosexual +--- 58081429 +>>58081360 +The M17 is not the same as the P320, and there's plenty of evidence of the later not being drop safe if it doesn't have the new parts that correct it. +--- 58081509 +>>58081360 +How are you supposed to take a video of a gun going off by itself while in the holster? You cannot predict such a thing and record it. And if you could predict it, you would prevent it. It would be like a 1 in 10 billion chance that someone just happened to be recording you on video while the AD happens. [Yes, a gun going off by itself by mechanical failure or defect is an accident discharge, not a negligent one.] +--- 58081549 +>>58080746 +Because they're jews +--- 58081591 +>>58080668 +This, and too many people don’t get this - there’s a reason why range officers are so autistic about ‘don’t le point at what you don’t want to le shoot!’ If you point a loaded gun at anything and it goes off, even if your finger was nowhere near the trigger you still bear responsibility. That’s why Alec Baldwin is a murderer. + +>>58080687 +Regardless there was still an aspect of negligence at play. +--- 58081693 +>>58081591 +Alec Baldwin wasn't supposed to have a loaded gun. He may be negligent or responsible as a producer for cutting costs and hiring a shitty armourer, but he wasn't guilty of murder. +Pointing guns at people in an action movie is supposed to happen. +--- 58081833 +>>58080668 +>You are the safety, not the equipment +Dumb take. You AND the gun should be safe. Never settle. diff --git a/k/58080636.txt b/k/58080636.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b4377936441682c3e4ae96b227cbfacdf28a1aad --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080636.txt @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +----- +--- 58080636 +ITT: Fictional weapons/vehicles that look cool but would be retarded for practical use. +--- 58080648 +>>58080636 (OP) +Almost everything in Destiny 2 +--- 58080654 +>>58080636 (OP) +--- 58080655 +>>58080636 (OP) +Every space fighter ever designed with a human pilot +--- 58080720 +>>58080636 (OP) +--- 58080744 +>>58080655 +small fighter ships in space are pointless. It's all capital baby +--- 58080791 +>>58080636 (OP) +--- 58080820 +>>58080655 +What happens when you need to GTFO off a planet? If you need to move locations, no RC fighter is gonna remedy that problem. Unless you have a trillion credits lying around for a giant frigate/capital ship with shields and energy weapons to stow away in your backyard +--- 58080840 +>>58080820 +Space fighters are already dubious because of pilot G force limitations but space fighters that are also single stage to orbit spaceplanes is pure space magic. If we allow space magic engines though I still think you'd see larger SSTO ships, maybe a few thousands tons for something like an atmosphere-capable destroyer +--- 58081287 +What were they thinking? +--- 58081299 +>>58081287 +It'd be based if not for the giant glass cockpit. No reason not to just have a shitload of cameras and some backup periscopes/viewports. Why the fuck did it need a huge glass front? +--- 58081322 +Leviathan from UT2004 +As cool as it was, IRL it looks like it'd high-center every 5 minutes, and its slow speed would make it ATGM bait. +--- 58081348 +>>58081322 +Man I played the shit out of that game back in the day but barely remember that vehicle +--- 58081366 +>Combat airdropped +>155mm mass accelerator cannon and coaxial-mounted machine gun +>Thrusters for bouncing up the side of mountains +>Capable of ramming Geth Colossus onto their fucking asses or off the side of mountains +>Pisses off all your miserable non-human crew + +M-44 Hammerhead enthusiasts can fuck right off and take your shitty little paper thin piece of shit with you. +ND1 Nomad bros can stay. You're misguided, but you're alright. +--- 58081387 +>>58081348 +It was only ever available on the really big maps. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJLUxzzkCoM [Embed] +--- 58081395 +Technically fictional even though it's just my autism but would a horse-sized pic related (frame adjusted for a human to sit on) be retarded to ride or would there be some practical use—perhaps in a skirmishing capacity? +--- 58081463 +>>58080820 +Droid star fighters are the most likely future for space wars +--- 58081489 +>>58081366 +manko :DDDDD +--- 58081580 +>>58080840 +NTA but Halo Reach's fighter booster system looked like total fiction when it came out but today seems more realistic. Looking at the thrust to mass ratio of Musk's new Raptor engines, it's reasonable to see a relatively small booster put those Fullback-sized spacecraft into orbit. +--- 58081723 +>>58080636 (OP) +I know that 40k is just posting on easy mode, but just imagine trying to run the logistics for a vehicle like this. +--- 58081854 +>>58081723 +To be fair in 40k they would have some dedicated logistics center staffed by 800 million cyborg slaves to supply everything for this one tank +--- 58081955 +This one just seems too outdated for its setting. It's supposed to be a Star Wars weapon but it's pretty much an MLRS from Earth +--- 58081975 +>>58081723 +That thing is also a troop transport with a capacity of 40 and has firing ports for 20 of them to shoot out. diff --git a/k/58080653.txt b/k/58080653.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d1bbb2ecdf326e418a683fccd339015145687f9e --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080653.txt @@ -0,0 +1,53 @@ +----- +--- 58080653 +Should the Soviets have intervened to save Egypt & Syria from defeat in the 1973 Yom Kippur War? Here's Brezhnev explaining why they didn't. +--- 58080675 +The Soviets got ass fucked by the Israelis and then decided to stop helping the Arabs +--- 58080679 +>>58080653 (OP) +No, why would you want to get sucked into working with absolute fucking retards? +--- 58080691 +>>58080653 (OP) +there were soviet troops in egypt and there were soviet pilots in the egyptian airforce +they were already de-facto fighting in egypt + +it was also why israel got so much aid in yom kippur, as a counter-balance to obvious soviet influence in egypt +had soviets sent troops in directly it would have been a major escalation that would warrant a proportionate western response and bring the world closer to a nuclear emergency +--- 58080844 +>>58080653 (OP) +Should've kissed Brezhnev properly, retards +--- 58080950 +>>58080844 +Yeah, full tongue, throat deep. +--- 58080969 +>>58080653 (OP) +It should've collapsed back then. +--- 58081111 +>>58080950 +UwU +--- 58081543 +>>58080675 +Lol,, no they fucking didn't you seething kike. +--- 58081606 +Was Brezhnev the only general who became the head of the Soviet Union? +--- 58081638 +>>58081606 +Khruschev reached the rank of Lieutenant General +--- 58081662 +>>58080653 (OP) +The soviets should have stayed out of this war, if the they weren't willing to go full on intervention. +The Israelis clearly are what soviet doctrine calls an enemy of world communism and the arabs are so horribly inept at modern ear, it's comical. +Full on intervention eould have shook up the middle east earlier, before the us got ties with the gulf states and fully doled israel. +Poor early combat oerformance of the soviets would also cause a clear incentive to get their heads out of their asses before the rot got out of hand. +The last part is wishful thinking on my part, by that time the soviets were already properly fucked. +--- 58081715 +>>58081606 +>>58081638 + +They both were political commissars so I don't think you can call them an actual officers even if they technically held the ranks. +--- 58081974 +>>58081662 +>Brezhnev +>Not putting a gun to the SU's head and rapidly pulling the trigger + +Pick one. They could have chosen détente, they chose fucking Andropov. Great job. diff --git a/k/58080659.txt b/k/58080659.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b00ca771315ef9af07b19d4f70c8149b0dc61c74 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080659.txt @@ -0,0 +1,131 @@ +----- +--- 58080659 +New here? Want a firearm? +https://pastebin.com/Ndb2jSAu +https://howtogetagun.ca/ + +Want to hunt? Hunting license info: +https://pastebin.com/nC8RpYb3 + +Want to buy something? Recommended vendors list: +https://pastebin.com/1yxHj5RG + +Want to help firearm rights? +https://firearmrights.ca +https://nfa.ca +https://cssa-cila.org + +Shitty Thread? /cangen/ Anti-Spammer filter list: +https://pastebin.com/6Ewshhfv + +Hobbyists corner: +https://print2a.com +https://ctrlpew.org +https://fosscad.org + +Rules of Cangen: +>Rule 1: No Furries +>Rule 2: No trannies +>Rule 3: No slav bumfight content +>Rule 4: No noguns PPC D&C +>Rule 5: Go shooting. + +Previously: >>58070467 → +--- 58080681 +wow thats disgusting +--- 58080703 +>>58080681 +The funny part is I'd actually really like that finish, for a range toy anyway, if I didn't know the context. If I didn't know it was gamer shit, my only criticisms would be the leaf, the fact that the red dot isn't in the optimal spot, and the fact that it's a canuckshit rifle. +--- 58080707 +>>58080681 +yeah guaranteed that image is straight from reddit lmao +--- 58080741 +>>58080707 +for sure, only redditors buy that disgusting gfuel shit +--- 58080756 +First for glassing the GTA. +--- 58080770 +>>58080756 +--- 58080778 +>>58080770 +--- 58080803 +Any interesting chug stories? +--- 58080826 +>>58080803 +Not mine, but my buddy’s. +>at a gas station +>bus of em shows up +>they shamble out +>they all have those college girl anti-spill straw cup things +>they approach the gas bar +>they’re all unscrewing the lid +>they don’t go for the pump +>instead they just dunk their cups in the bins +>lolwut.jpg +>they all get back on the bus +Truly a marvel that any of them survive to reproduce +--- 58080830 +>>58080826 +*squeegee bins +--- 58080837 +>>58080830 +what for? +--- 58080918 +>>58080837 +To get crunked on some of that spicy squeegee jungle juice. +--- 58080920 +>>58080837 +Well, college girls use them so they don’t spill their drinks at parties when they get sloshed… +--- 58080932 +>>58080918 +imagine all the ingested bird shit and dirt... +>Verification not required. +--- 58080937 +Fuck just realised I wrote a whole passage about the battle zero and used some ballistic calculator shit as reference but ended up using yards instead of meters on the calculator ffs why was i cursed with retarded syndrome +--- 58080946 +>>58080937 +The reason you’re a retard is that you didn’t just use one of the defaults(25/36/50/100) or designed zero for the BDC of your optic. +--- 58080951 +>>58080946 +Its an SKS, its a passage specifically talking about the "straight shot" battle zero. I personally dont even use it as I prefer the 100m zero. +--- 58080983 +>>58080946 +the biggest problem is the calculator either inputs all data as metric or imperial, rather than just distance, so I'd have to convert velocities and points of impact from imperial to metric, then back to imperial again unless theres a better calculator than what im using. +--- 58080987 +>>58080951 +Don’t you just set it to П, aim for the belt, and then zero it? +--- 58080997 +>>58080987 +I'd zero at the 100 meter setting then you can set it to П which is pretty much just a rough 300 meter zero, you'll hit about 5 inches high inbetween point blank and 300 meters. +--- 58081033 +>>58080983 +Just use a normal calculator for the conversions and then put them all in using the same measurement system. +Then do it all at once. Write them down on a notepad or something so you don’t have to recalculate the value each time you want to try a new zero in the calculator. +--- 58081094 +>>58081033 +I just went through and did the conversions didnt take too much to fix. Its ironic the russian term for the battle zero is "straight shot" when its literally a rainbow arc trajectory. I guess the idea is you point the gun straight at the target without having to worry about accounting for drop. Its far from precise though and if you were engaging a target in cover you'd be hard pressed to hit them especially inbetween 100 and 250 yards where it would just be a random chance at guessing your hold over without a serious ammount of practice shooting in this manner. +--- 58081100 +>>58081094 +*hold under I should say, my bad. +--- 58081119 +>>58080756 +>>58080770 +Yeah +--- 58081255 +>>58081119 +>Wexit excluding the actual most western parts of canada, abandonning all hope of acsess to the pacific ocean. +wut. +--- 58081303 +>>58080527 → # +2.5 foot black zip ties are essential, they double as fetish whips in a pinch. also very good for securing the front bumper of your Subaru after totally not intentionally running over traffic cones when you leave the bar. which I definitely did not do tonight +--- 58081686 +>>58080659 (OP) +gentlemen I am here to remind you to train, to shoot, and to study small unit tactics. it just might save your life +--- 58081732 +>>58081686 +Today i was practising shooting with irons, the x95 bui's to be specific, i rarely shoot with irons as i just dont really likem, my vision isnt too great, but i figure i should try to git guud with them anyway. +Ty for the concern. +--- 58081770 +>>58081732 +>i rarely shoot with irons as i just dont really likem +I shoot milsurps a bunch, and I practice with my BUIS regularly, so I'm proficient with aperture sights. There are some kind of iron sights that I fucking hate though. Notch sights like a lot of older military rifles had are terrible, and Bill Ruger should have been hanged for the factory 10/22 iron sights. Those were a worse crime than when he cucked on magazines. diff --git a/k/58080684.txt b/k/58080684.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..fda7749c59d4133fcb73db937239d34d52f25f5a --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080684.txt @@ -0,0 +1,216 @@ +----- +--- 58080684 +>vatnik gets decapitated by drone + +I did not think drone nades were that powerful +--- 58080696 +>>58080684 (OP) +Why? He was clearly dead already. +--- 58080704 +>>58080696 +because fuck you ivan,thats why. NEXT! +--- 58080705 +>>58080696 +pretty sure he was just playing dead after the initial nade +--- 58080708 +>>58080696 +He was playing dead +--- 58080716 +>I did not think drone nades were that powerful + +It's a shame people don't read books anymore. +--- 58080725 +>>58080696 +Nades are cheap, the drone flies better without them, damage russians moral, they don't know what the heck happened. +>And maybe stop agony +--- 58080726 +>>58080684 (OP) +>rolls into the grenade instead of away from it + +huh? +--- 58080733 +Are different drones using different grenades? +I've seen some that seem to just leave them writhing in pain and some that blow limbs clean off. +I honestly thought grenades would be more devastating after hearing about how the concussive force of one sends shockwaves through every organ, but it seems that shrapnel is the only thing that makes it hurt. +--- 58080737 +>>58080684 (OP) +250KJ of energy +--- 58080742 +>>58080684 (OP) +I wonder if we'll see drone aces get recognized like snipers that rack up loads of kills. Imagine some scrawny zoomer getting his picture taken for killing like 50 men with drone drops. +--- 58080751 +>>58080726 +Assisted suicide. +--- 58080752 +>>58080742 +A sniper killing an enemy requires skill + +Some dweeb dropping a nade from a drone requires no skill +--- 58080757 +>>58080733 +>I honestly thought grenades would be more devastating after hearing about how the concussive force of one sends shockwaves through every organ + +How would we see that from shitty drone webms? +--- 58080766 +>>58080752 +>dropping a grenade from height in the wind doesn't require skill +--- 58080767 +>>58080733 +Pretty sure they are. There have been a few drone vids with direct hits to the head but none that completely blew the head off +--- 58080777 +>>58080684 (OP) +>About 60 percent of the grenade body pulverizes during the explosion, +>only 30 percent of the body splits into 290 high-velocity, sharp-edged splinters each weighing around 1 gram with an initial speed of about 700 m/s (2,300 ft/s). +These old F1's have poor fragmentation compared to modern western ones filled to the gills with thousands of granules of tungsten, but they have mountains of them to use. +--- 58080779 +why did he roll towards the grenade +--- 58080785 +>>58080779 +zigged when he should have zagged. rookie mistake +--- 58080789 +>>58080733 +there are 3 main ones i've seen. f1 frags, vog underslug grenades and thermobaric grenades. +>>58080742 +talk about xbox live achievements amirite +--- 58080794 +>>58080766 +yes +--- 58080798 +>>58080779 +He wanted to die. +--- 58080800 +>>58080752 +I don't think people really care about the skill involved its more about the david vs goliath propaganda value. +--- 58080804 +>>58080742 +>Imagine some scrawny zoomer getting his picture taken for killing like 50 men +We already had an interview with the zoomer who killed 500+ vatniggers so far. +--- 58080810 +>>58080804 +Sounds like a sociopath to me +--- 58080888 +>>58080794 + +>I have never piloted a drone +--- 58080905 +>>58080696 +The headless are forced to wander hell for all eternity +--- 58080907 +>>58080888 +incorrect +--- 58080926 +>>58080696 +>hohols use rotting POW carcass for the fifth time to produce ISIS snuff +>cum guzzling Doreens from reddit r/NCD circlejerking +If anyone asks you why we need secure borders, just point to /k/ +--- 58081002 +>>58080926 +What the fuck are going on about? +--- 58081046 +>>58080810 +>Sounds like a sociopath to me + +No, a hero of the civilized world, destroying the illegally invading orcish hordes one by one with fire and steel. + +We need more brave and skillful people like this. +--- 58081050 +huh, I was expecting a lot more blood gushing out like a fountain. +--- 58081081 +>>58080810 +Why? He hasn't harmed a single human being yet. +--- 58081097 +>>58080726 +If he were to survive he'd have to go back to Russia. +--- 58081101 +>>58080705 + +>get hot shrapnel to shred your body +>be stone cold, show no emotion + +He was either unconscious or dead. +--- 58081114 +>>58080737 +Less than a Big Mac. That's sad. +--- 58081122 +>>58080779 +He black. +--- 58081130 +>>58080696 + +It’s not like he was going to use it that much anyway. He’s Russian after all. +--- 58081132 +>>58080733 +>>58080789 +Anyone know why we don’t see more RGD-5? +--- 58081143 +>>58080733 +Concussive force from a grenade like that would only rupture organs in an enclosed area like a small room or maybe in a car, but out in the open like that, you'd have to be pretty close to something like an artillery shell to get similar concussion +--- 58081249 +>>58081002 +There's resident /pol/nigger schizo and/or shill trying to force the theory that Ukrainians use prisoners to produce drone snuff films. Yes it's childishly retarded, and yes he's going to keep doing it. +--- 58081273 +>>58081249 +What is his theory about Russian soldiers constantly complaining about Ukrainian drones? +--- 58081290 +>>58080779 +I think he heard the grenade being dropped and instantly rolled away from his position because people generally try to drop nades on you. Except he had no way of knowing the grenade was slightly off his position and he rolled right into it. classic FPS blunder +--- 58081301 +>>58080726 +>>58080779 +There was an instructional video released by Russian .mil "instructors" on how to respond to a spotted drone dropping a grenade. It instructs the soldier to drop and roll "away" from the frag while counting to some number (four, I think). The problem, as shown in the video, is you don't always know which way is "away" from the actual impact point. Wind, momentum, visual obstruction, shit lighting are all things that can make for wild deviation between release point and landing point. + +You can't actually just Abu Hajar away from a drone-dropped fraq with any consistency to be a genuinely viable procedure. It serves more as a placebo to the mobik. Tell them the magic necklaces protect against bullets and they won't think twice about charging men with rifles. Give the mobik "one easy trick to survive" and he'll at least die thinking he was doing something to prevent it actively, rather than just passively taking it to the face, literally in this case. +--- 58081320 +>>58080684 (OP) +How many grenades can a drone carry? +--- 58081321 +>>58080696 +What part of "TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH" you didn't get? +--- 58081339 +>>58081273 +I don't think he's ever actually tried to explain this silliness in detail. He just driveby posts "muh hohohohohololols of doing the snuff of filmings again" and fucks off, generally. Of all the weird copes and forced shit we've had, this one's up there as one of the more genuinely pathetic ones. You know it's not shitposting based on how frequently you see it, too. +--- 58081407 +>>58080767 +there was one recently where an FPV drone slammed into some poor mobik and turned him into giblets. +--- 58081433 +>>58080696 +It was a trick, clever drone operator saw through +--- 58081452 +>>58080684 (OP) +>channel name cut off +yeah I'm thinking false flag thread +--- 58081475 +Those grenades are more powerful than the used in the first part of the war, right? +--- 58081497 +>>58080696 +>He was clearly dead already +--- 58081500 +I still wonder why ukrainians have decided to kill every russian instead of straining their logistics with injured? +Yes. +There really isn't any difference between droning injured man to death and isis videos. +--- 58081504 +>>58081301 +It's all about statistics in war. Maybe rolling away will kill 5 out of 10, while not doing anything would result in 8 out of 10 fatalities. That's potentially thousands of soldiers. +--- 58081521 +>>58080798 +GODDAMN +one of the dumbest deaths in the 20th century's military history +--- 58081570 +>>58081475 +looks like a regular f1 grenade +--- 58081592 +>>58081500 +when a grenade is dropped the drone operator doesn't know if the victim is actually injured/dead or just pretending. +--- 58081625 +I don't know what will i do when this war is over and i don't get my daily dosis of videos of ziggers dying. +--- 58081654 +>>58081592 +There has been multiple videos where people were obviously injured. +Some look like mercy kills and I don't count those as execution videos. +--- 58081727 +>>58080696 +the body clearly moved +--- 58081737 +>>58080733 +mostly they are VOG-17 and RGD-5 +some weaker types may also have been used diff --git a/k/58080750.txt b/k/58080750.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9827129aecf369054fadb5658a36d88ec8eca749 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080750.txt @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +----- +--- 58080750 +NGAD will supercruise at Mach 2.5 over the pacific by the end of the decade. It's likely that it won't even have afterburning capabilities to reduce its infrared signature. +--- 58080792 +>>58080750 (OP) +That plot is deceiving, it only shows Cd, drag at 2.5 doubles compared to M1.0. +Drag at M1.5 only is 20% higher than at M1.0. +So > supercruise at Mach 2.5 +X doubt + +Let alone fuel efficiency, even at high altitude you start to be limited by atmosphere density and Isp (exhaust velocity). + +>reduce its infrared signature. +>M2.5 +Anon... +--- 58080814 +>>58080750 (OP) +>>58080792 +Dingus here, but isn’t supersonic stealth impossible with current technology? +--- 58080924 +>>58080814 +Skin surface temperature increase greatly with speed. Low emissivity (to reduce IR signature) are metals (idk about exotic materials that could stand M2.5) that aren't good for low RCS, specially because the hottest areas are the nose and wing's leading edge. + +That aside, afaik turbofans optimized for very high speed still needs lower bypass ratios so they're are closer to turbojets than turbofans. The F-22's F119 is similar in size and weight to the F135 (F-35) but with -30kN of thrust. + +Very high speed and stealth are kinda incompatible and idk if the NGAD would be that ambitious, suprecruising at M2.5 requires 70% more thrust than M1.8 (F22). +--- 58080936 +>>58080924 +And cooling the skin isn't trivial, besides the fact that you still need dissipate that heat somewhere, a hotter area (maybe the top) +--- 58080939 +>>58080814 +No...? stealth aircraft can go supersonic and remain stealthy, however high supersonic speeds are impossible right now due to skin friction heating which causes degradation of the coating. +>>58080924 +The skin material is fine, that's not the issue, the industry these days uses a lot of composites, with metals used on leading edges. It's the coating that becomes a problem, you don't rely on the structural material to absorb radar waves. +--- 58080955 +>>58080924 +Also, the issue with turbofans isn't trivial but isn't that bad either. Typically the engine issues arise from overheating rather than thrust limitations. The reason why low bypass is preferred for high speed flight is because you need to overcome the ram drag, that is, you need to accelerate the gas faster than your flight speed in order to get thrust. The bypass air is only compressed thus is at a much lower PE than the core air, which makes it harder to attain the required exhaust velocity. +--- 58081456 +>>58080924 +NGAD will not be stealth, just fast enough to outrun missiles. It will fire AIM-260s from 200+ miles out and guide drones that will handle closer fighting. diff --git a/k/58080762.txt b/k/58080762.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d0a570d84c5a8d0f103179eca3d4164ed102bd8b --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080762.txt @@ -0,0 +1,273 @@ +----- +--- 58080762 +>Russia still hasn't taken Bakhmut +--- 58080775 +lol +--- 58080781 +>>58080762 (OP) +Wrong. 160 meters were taken. +--- 58080782 +>>58080762 (OP) +They have.... +in their dreams. +--- 58080786 +>>58080762 (OP) +I'd give it two more weeks as they are still advancing. As long as they capture it before the counteroffensive they should have no trouble holding it. +--- 58080795 +two more weekZZZzzzzz + +>>58080781 +3 days ago + +truZt the plan + +-Z +--- 58080957 +>day 401 of special military operation in Mexico +> USS Missouri was sunk months ago off the coast of Baja Cali +>most of delta team was taken out a year ago in a failed attempt to take Mexico city airport +>videos of US soldiers getting drone grenaded to mariachi music are constantly going viral +>Canada joins military alliance with China and East Asia +>pentagon has spent 8 months trying to take Santa Ana via suicide charges for no apparent tactical reason +>a fat convicted felon chef is openly challenging pentagon top brass +Literal clown show if you imagine it happening anywhere else +--- 58080962 +this fucking cat is 100% the reason Puccia considers cat shelters a "decision making centre" +--- 58080979 +>>58080957 +I need someone to write a Clancy with exactly this transposition of events when the war is over. +--- 58081020 +>>58080957 +Intel Patriot Z told me Missouri returned to port under its own power. How am I supposed to take the rest of your post seriously? +--- 58081038 +>>58080957 +Yeah but legally speaking we control Santa Ana +--- 58081148 +>>58080957 +If someone wrote about this conflict into a fiction book everyone would criticize it for how stupid and unrealistic it was +--- 58081197 +>>58081148 +>American woman releases video bragging about toilet looted from Mexico, thanks them for the fact she doesn't need to shit inside anymore +--- 58081224 +>>58080762 (OP) +And still no Crimea. +--- 58081226 +>>58081148 +--- 58081227 +>>58080762 (OP) +--- 58081233 +>>58080957 +--- 58081265 +What's the lesson here? Avoid urban combat as much as possible? How could have Russia avoided this scenario? +--- 58081289 +>>58081265 +Stay in your own fucking country. +--- 58081297 +>>58081265 +They tried to flank the city but decided they have not enough troops to maintain both pincers and had to attack through the city. + +So the lesson is: if you have to take a city do it with enough forces +--- 58081363 +>>58081265 +Don't have a military that has corruption as policy +--- 58081379 +>>58081224 +rent free. +--- 58081390 +>>58081265 +Should've just moved into that pocket of the D/LPR, annexed it, and probably just launched a missile at the North Crimean Canal to unblock the canal. +>the west and nato would remain angry and upset +>russia would probably get away with annexing it like crimea +>ukraine would've remained butthurt but most of the civilian populace would've just been indifferent +>it would be a repeat of making nato seem weak and ineffectual in the way of russian encroachment +--- 58081396 +>>58081297 +Its like HoMM3 - need at least 2x troops to attack a city +--- 58081414 +>>58080762 (OP) +HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT +--- 58081449 +>>58081224 +Is that going to be the final cope? +>only ukie territory Russia has left is Crimea +>xaxaxaxaxa get fucked holhols, we still have crimea )))))))))))) +--- 58081462 +The oil depot hit two nights ago was hit again. +--- 58081467 +>>58081462 +fool me once, shame on me +fool me twice, what the air defense doing +--- 58081487 +>>58081462 +Proofs? Genuinely asking I've been away for a couple of hours and just got on /k/ +--- 58081492 +>>58081487 +>https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1654373915832070148?t=IXSmBzI2PxhFby94ziMF0Q&s=19 +--- 58081510 +>>58081492 +>https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1654373915832070148?t=IXSmBzI2PxhFby94ziMF0Q&s=19 + +Lmao ty anon. IT KEEPS HAPPENING +--- 58081516 +>>58081148 +Honestly you can say the same about WW2 +--- 58081524 +>>58081265 +Maybe make sure your military is actually ready for war before you start one. +--- 58081526 +Unrelated, but a village in poszya called uspenka ior something got devoured by a fire. Nature doesn't like vatniks. +--- 58081535 +>>58081265 +Don't start a war if you and your cronies have been bleeding the army dry through both corruption and incompetence for a generation +--- 58081582 +>>58081265 +Do things slow, do things subtle. +If they had kept going with their passport distribution program, internet propaganda campaign, and performed actual special military operations to surgically annex land in tiny strips over a long period of time, they might have succeeded in boiling the frog. +By half-boiling the frog and then suddenly getting impatient and deciding to finish things early, the frog wised up and hopped out of the pot. +--- 58081821 +>>58080762 (OP) +Of course they haven't. Why stop your enemy from making a potentially grave mistake? AFU continues to pay in warm bodies to defend a city of dubious operational importance. + +That's men and materiel that could've been used to strengthen their hyped up counteroffensive, or at least men and materiel that could've been used to take even better defensive positions outside of bakhmut itself. But who knows maybe the political cost was even higher and Kiev decided reinforcing bakhmut was priority +--- 58081832 +>>58081821 +Hmm now why is Russia so hellbent on taking this city of dubious operational importance? +--- 58081839 +>>58081390 +Man this was peak Putin pr. Shame he went full schizo. +--- 58081848 +GUYS, THEY ARE LEAVING BAHMUT WTF +--- 58081852 +>>58081832 +That's on them for whatever reason, bakhmut isn't really that important for either side outside of symbolic reasons. The only charitable reading I can think of is that they're using bakhmut as a fixing action but it's doubtful this was even intentional to begin with +--- 58081855 +>>58081848 +i'm just gonna take your word for it +--- 58081867 +>>58081848 +>>58081855 +--- 58081871 +>>58081867 +no fucking way +--- 58081874 +>>58081867 +Link? +--- 58081877 +>>58080762 (OP) +Lol +--- 58081879 +>>58081867 +fake and gay +--- 58081884 +>>58081874 +https://t.me/grey_zone/18516 + +Here you go fren +--- 58081890 +>>58081265 +As a attacker you always want to avoid Urban Enviroments and preferably encircle it +As a Defender you should always bait the attackers into trying to fight in urban Enviroments +--- 58081891 +>>58081867 +>Russia will never take Bakhmut +That’s really sad, imagine being reduced to acting like taking a small city will be the greatest victory for Russia since WWII and you can’t even manage that. +Actually who am I kidding that’s hilarious +--- 58081893 +>>58081884 +AINT NO WAY BRO AINT NO WAY! god fucking damn it. +--- 58081899 +>>58081884 +if true, wonder if the line is just gonna collapse +--- 58081900 +>>58081526 +like three villages already got set on fire recently afaik +--- 58081907 +>>58081867 +there's no fucking way dude, no fucking way man, hahahahaha ruscucks are pathetic +--- 58081916 +>>58080762 (OP) +And they never will. Wanger is retreating on the 10th. +Source: @wagnernew tg channel + +1/3 +--- 58081917 +>>58081265 +Don't start what you can't finish. +--- 58081919 +>>58081224 +>still +2 more goodwill gestures. +--- 58081920 +>>58081884 +gesture of goodwill incoming +--- 58081923 +>>58081265 +Don't drink your own cool aid +--- 58081925 +>https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1654397764569104384?t=9dKRek6zRKH_SD4GE0BWiw&s=19 +oh my fucking god. can russia even assemble enough men to replace wagner in bakhmut? +--- 58081927 +>>58081884 +AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH +--- 58081929 +>>58081916 +2/3 +--- 58081936 +>>58081884 +No fucking way Jesus christ Russia +--- 58081937 +>>58081884 +Looks like psyops. +--- 58081941 +>>58081929 +3/3 +--- 58081944 +>>58081867 +Looks like regular Russian army wanting to take credit at the last minute. Prigozhin got played like a fiddle until the end +--- 58081945 +>>58081867 +>>58081884 +No fucking way for real? +--- 58081948 +>>58081390 +That face he made always reminds me of pic related +--- 58081949 +>>58081937 +maybe wagner is going on strike? lol +--- 58081950 +>>58081867 +>>58081884 +Is tactical redeployment, comrade. The gloves will come off soon. ))))) +--- 58081956 +>>58081867 +>>58081884 +>>58081916 +--- 58081959 +>>58081884 +--- 58081965 +>>58081867 +>>58081884 +>Ukraine is going to fight the real Russian army now +>Some how, Wagner being replaced with more experienced troops means Ukraine is going to win +now! +More /k/ope Bakhmut falls on the 11th. +--- 58081971 +I was hoping they wouldn’t be able to take Bakhmut by victory day and I thought that was overly optimistic. How the fuck do they keep managing to be magnitudes more incompetent than I expect? +--- 58081973 +>>58081916 +>>58081929 +>>58081941 +beyond, beyond parody. will like to see how russia replaces wagner in five days. +--- 58081978 +>>58081949 +Honestly that's not even that far off of a guess. Prigozhin probably won't actually do it and is just bluffing so they finally give him and his boys some fucking shells +--- 58081984 +>>58081965 +>more experienced troops +experienced in what, getting their nuts blown off by a drone dropped grenade in a trench defending buttfuck oblast? +--- 58081989 +>>58081965 +>Russian army +>experienced troops +Da comrade, 18 million VDV and Spetznez with 800k T14s and SU75’s will obliterate the hyperfortress of Bahkmut in one day. +[spoiler]I know you’re joking but I’m going along with it[/spoiler] diff --git a/k/58080853.txt b/k/58080853.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..942bf0cd91b3b699278b0f8224592dc791406f84 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58080853.txt @@ -0,0 +1,216 @@ +----- +--- 58080853 +>leopard tanks being shipped to Odessa + +Why would they send them to Odessa? +--- 58080854 +>>58080853 (OP) +--- 58080863 +>>58080853 (OP) +From there to Kherson? +--- 58080875 +>>58080863 +They can't be seriously considering to cross the Dnipro in force +--- 58080887 +>>58080853 (OP) +For kherson? Where else do you think? People have predicted that western tanks will be used on kherson rather than donbass. +--- 58080898 +>>58080875 +It's what would be least expected by the Russians (and everyone else). So obviously Russia will likely have less troops there, making it a perfect place to attack (assuming you can get across the river). +--- 58080908 +>>58080887 +>>58080898 +There's no functioning bridge over the Dnipro that can hold an MBT +--- 58080910 +>>58080908 +Yet ;p +--- 58080921 +>>58080908 +Anon, they literally have portable bridges that can move armor vehicles across waters. +--- 58080949 +>>58080875 +Why? +1. They have a mostly intact bridge that could still be repaired. Russia isn't nearly as adept as Ukraine at taking out bridges. It would also be good bait to destroy Russian aircraft who try to take it out. +2. They got a ton of bridging equipment from allies to build mobile, moveable, alternatives that Russia can't really defend against. Ukraine had trouble with Russia doing the same thing. +3. They have boats and barges to move additional supplies. +4. It is at the extreme end of Russia's supply lines, making it hard area to resupply if Russia gets into an extended engagement. +5. Russia doesn't have many troops there compared to other places of advance. It would also possibly collapse other defensive lines as they tried to pull back and defend Crimea. +6. It outflanks a lot of their prepared defenses to avoid fortifications. +7. Although it has risks due to the limited supply across the Dnipro, Kherson is a major hub, so getting supplies there is easy, it will only be the last 1KM that is a challenge. +8. Ukraine has been hitting Russia positions for months +9. Ukraine has removed the civilians locally for OPSEC. +--- 58080972 +I've always wondered if there is a way to cover tanks so you don't know they're tanks. Surely them being photographed moving to Odessa is a bad thing to let people know? Or is that the point? +--- 58080991 +>>58080853 (OP) +>yfw the offensive is actually towards Transvestria +--- 58081001 +>>58080853 (OP) +because they came into the country through Romania and Odesa is on the way? +--- 58081006 +>>58080921 +no they dont the dnepr isn't a creek. none of the bridgelaying vehicles ukraine has/got can make a bridge across it why do you think russia was forced to make shitty pontoon bridges when they also have bridgelaying vehicles +--- 58081012 +>>58081001 +Rznow is the 'drop off' point. So they should have been coming from Poland. Not Romania. If they're in Odessa then they're there for a reason, not because they're passing through. By that I mean they might be passing through to Kherson for an attack that way. That's what I mean. +--- 58081013 +>>58080908 +Jerries also gave them pontoon bridges +--- 58081019 +>>58081006 +>when they also have bridgelaying vehicles +I can answer this, actually. I discussed this very early on. Basically Russian doctrine says that if the gap is over a certain length (I think it was 500m but it might have been 300) then you're suppose to use ships to transport across, not using the bridge layer. +--- 58081021 +>those tanks appear moving through Odesa, it means they will go Kherson! +No wonder Americans got fooled by Soviets riding their equipment in circles to appear as if they have more of it +--- 58081026 +>>58081021 +>fooled +>Americans made more weapons and became stronger +Who's the bigger fool in the end? +--- 58081030 +>>58081021 +Again, the entry point for supplies has been from Reznow. That's the delivery place. It is also where Poland is and Poland has the biggest port in the region that can take huge amounts of vehicles. Therefore if they're moving through Odessa then they're moving there for a reason. It might just be to trick Russia into thinking an attack might occur there, it might actually be. Who knows. Still there for a reason. Because Odessa is a different track route from the west of Ukraine. +--- 58081040 +>>58080853 (OP) +>Odessa +I'm gonna need a geoloc for this. I don't believe this is Odessa. +--- 58081042 +>>58081019 +but the dnepr is like 1km wide meaning no bridgelaying vehicle can cross it so if they really wanted to attack they would have to lay down pontoons. i recall earlier in this war someone else tried pontooning at a much more narrow river and it ended up losing them like 50 afvs but what do i know +--- 58081052 +What are odds they install snorkels to the leopards to cross the Dnipro? +--- 58081060 +>>58081042 +No but you can theoretically merge lots and lots of rigs together. The Bongs and Germans have the current record, which is 350 metres. + +https://youtu.be/6RoRypoE0Og [Embed] + +But this took 34 to do it. So you could, I guess, triple that amount and get your 1km. +--- 58081083 +>>58081042 +>someone else tried +Who do you think? I'M PONTOOOOOOOOONING +--- 58081090 +Looks like pontoon kino is coming back this summer. +--- 58081108 +>>58080853 (OP) +why would they go to Odessa? +--- 58081123 +>>58080853 (OP) +How wide, how deep, and how far do the catacombs go, OP? No one really knows. What time will it be when you emerge from them? Past or present or future? +--- 58081131 +>Kherson +No + +Leopards will retake Crimea +--- 58081144 +>>58080853 (OP) +Clearly, they are selling those to Moldova. +--- 58081146 +>>58080972 +Odessa connects to everything, because everything has to connect to Odessa. Best to show the delivery en route to Odessa, to properly demonstrate you have no idea where they will end up. +--- 58081150 +inb4 they show up on Kursk +--- 58081153 +>>58081131 +I think that retaking Crimea is a bad idea. Since the island is like a fortress. +The best scenario for Crimea would be - blow the bridge, blockade it and perform a pinpoint bombing of russian military there until they give up. + +>>58081146 +>Odessa connects to everything, because everything has to connect to Odessa +This is why russian wanted it so badly when the war broke out. +--- 58081165 +>>58081060 +>t. Yuri Tarovich, Keev oblast +--- 58081166 +>>58080853 (OP) +maybe a schizo theory, but maybe they're decoys? throwing off the scent? +--- 58081170 +>>58081153 +>>58081146 +Yeah but as I said, Rzesnow is the place where western shit is dropped off and it is connected by three tracks to Ukraine. With shit arriving by Gdnask and then travelling down. If they're going down to Odessa there is a reason for it. Yeah it has a lot of routes but so do other places further north. + +I dunno. +--- 58081173 +>leopards +its nothing, basically a humvee with a big gun. even sand niggers with 1940s rpg can hold a ground against that bottom tier tank +--- 58081183 +>>58081173 +Spoken like someone who doessn't know what they fuck they're talking about. +--- 58081188 +>>58081173 +Looks like it was crew demolition desu +--- 58081198 +>>58081183 +spoken like a retard who can't even spot the simplest most retarded of memes "its basically a humvee" you faggots should know this one at the very least +--- 58081199 +>>58081173 +Don't encourage them anon +--- 58081200 +They are just moving them around to fuck with the russians. +--- 58081215 +>>58080853 (OP) +I wouldn't worry about it +--- 58081238 +>>58080991 +whats that? i only heard about transvestitia +--- 58081258 +>>58081173 +leopard 2A5 with armor package is theoretically protected against its own gun from between 30-60 degree frontal arc +not exactly a humvee +--- 58081267 +>>58081183 +>>58081258 +Lurk more tourists +--- 58081283 +>>58080853 (OP) +med countries sent them through romania +--- 58081375 +>>58081283 +This, also Ukraine might be moving shit around through random paths so that they are more difficult for the Russians to destroy. +--- 58081416 +>>58081170 +Sending via Odesa keeps it closest to NATO borders and thus can benefit from NATO monitoring and is also furthest away from Russian planes and missiles. +--- 58081442 +>>58080908 +"Bridging equipment" with no further details has been showing up in aid package descriptions for a year now +--- 58081444 +>>58081416 +I've just not seen NATO aircraft landing anywhere in Romania. Transport aircraft, that is. Tulcea Delta Dunarii Airport is the nearest to the Ukrainian border in Romania so it's possible but I dunno. +--- 58081450 +Thought of you guys when I saw this. +--- 58081459 +>>58080908 +Nova kakhovas dam can +--- 58081474 +Could UAF drain the dnipro dam and then stop the flow? Would be cool if they did. +--- 58081645 +>>58081444 +Sorry I should have been more clear. I believe they're moving it east in the most southern route their rail network allows. So it went from Rzsezow to Odesa. +--- 58081695 +>>58081153 +>retaking Crimea is a bad idea +Every single military that has tried to take Crimea in the last 500 years has succeeded in doing so. It's one of the most vulnerable pieces of clay on the entire planet Earth. It literally sieges itself. +--- 58081734 +>>58081444 +they arent using Tulcea airport, they are using Constanta international airport, the recon CL60 and blackhawks pop up there a lot +--- 58081757 +>>58081450 +Yeah, I caught that and got a solid laugh out of it. I was going to start posting it around here because I don't care if anyone calls me a fag or a retard or a furry. + +Thanks for beating me to it. Got another unexpected smile by surprise. +--- 58081830 +>>58080908 +It would be interesting to know how damage the Dams bridge is and how damage the normal bridge is +Because I personally only ever saw russians detonate the Ukrainian side which could mean that the rest of the bridge could be usable aslong as ukies find a way to quickly replace the broken part on their side +Though Himars strike damage is probably still there so maybe still unusable for heavy equipment +--- 58081850 +>>58081153 +>Since the island is like a fortress. +Thats the problem with it and why its been so easy to take for every land army that tried +I swear you faggots think they could hold out for years on that island even though all the land is shit for producing crops and getting drinkable water is also a whole ordeal so they would start having food and water shortages 1 month into the siege +--- 58081987 +>>58080853 (OP) +Because there are not that many ways to bring them in by rail and showing tanks in the south reinforces russian concerns that the offensive will take place there. You can still ship them to Donbas with relative ease, they are on rail carriages after all. +Its about creating uncertainty. diff --git a/k/58081054.txt b/k/58081054.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4ba88eed2b88898908717eb21f0e4af2e1bcaeef --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081054.txt @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +----- +--- 58081054 +> No rifled shotgun allowed, all smoothbore +> Rifles are all long arms with rifled barrel +> Only civ pistol allowed are revolvers +> Any non-police or military person owning a semi-auto pistol are criminals +Non-American gunbros, how your country define whether a gun is a pistol, a rifle, or a shotgun? Other than the obvious (Automatics), what kind of guns your country consider verbotten? +--- 58081062 +>>58081054 (OP) +all exploding thing with a barrel to accelerate a projectile is illegal diff --git a/k/58081201.txt b/k/58081201.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..11f5f389a53e4ecf6d2ccdac0fd7d71680c6cd1c --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081201.txt @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +----- +--- 58081201 +When will Wagner PMC inevitably turn against Russia? +--- 58081214 +>>58081201 (OP) +in two weeks +--- 58081440 +>>58081201 (OP) +after they take Bakhmut +their future base of operations +--- 58081534 +>>58081440 +What is stopping them from taking Bakhmut? +--- 58081595 +*angry monkey noises intensify* +--- 58081646 +It'd be kino, doubt it though. It would be fun to see some fascist ass bullshit like the blackshirt's march on Rome. Maybe if Putin gets murked and some weak-ass stand in replaces him, prigozhin could march to moscow with wagner and take control. Gods IMAGINE the evil empire propaganda +--- 58081670 +>>58081646 +people forget how small Wagner is and how reliant he is on Russian army. +--- 58081710 +I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the OG separatists (Givi, Motorolla, Strelkov) and Wagner because they appear far more genuine than RF proper. +--- 58081718 +>>58081595 +>all this sneeding about rusniggers facing the consequences of their choices + +Oh no if only there was a way to avoid getting killed in a retarded war of aggression. +--- 58081721 +>>58081710 +>OG separatists (Givi, Motorolla, Strelkov) +it's funny calling them separatists when two of the guys you've named never been to Donbas before 2014 +--- 58081736 +>Long running feud with government authorities +>Interviewer head-on asking if he would ever storm Moscow +>Hired previous MoD deputy +>Keeps crying about being denied support by MoD +>Has only army effective enough to take any kind of ground +He has to be near breaking point. If Ukies manage to take territory in style of kharkiv offensive I think he might snap and march on Moscow with casus belli of "getting rid of foreign agents in government" +--- 58081753 +>>58081736 +The Burger King has really hit some hard times +--- 58081758 +>>58081595 +>volunteers +LMAO +--- 58081792 +>>58081595 +>>58081201 (OP) +>release video complaining about ammo shortage after you supposedly found 300 000 crates of guns and ammo +also new soijack dropped +--- 58081794 +>>58081721 +>>58081710 +It's funny calling them that since first two were spetsnaz operatives and the last one is omega ruski FSB glowie who did partake in rusnigger operations in Trannysitria, Balkan shitfest war, Chechenya, Georgia +Those people are not who YOU think they are, and Strelkov is particularly proud of his past +--- 58081795 +>>58081595 +brehs just shoot less often, do more scouting and less rushing +--- 58081799 +>>58081792 +where is that gear from and is it any good? +--- 58081810 +>>58081710 +Same desu they seem like normal people in a weird way +--- 58081814 +>>58081792 +>the pallets in the background +HATO bros... they captured our wunderwaffen... +--- 58081818 +>>58081792 +Yeah, sure, it's not lie lying propaganda. We should trust everything what russians say. +--- 58081822 +>>58081814 +what pallets, I only see battens and fire wood +--- 58081823 +>>58081810 +Anon, are you nuts?! +--- 58081837 +>>58081794 +Givi was a nobody security guard from Ukraine no? He got turned away from the Ukie military I thought +--- 58081844 +>>58081818 +Well duh, that's a no-brainer. +The question is, which is he lying about, finding ammo, or having none? +--- 58081847 +>>58081799 +Looks like some of those crates contain Thompsons that the soviets got under the original lend-lease during WW2 +--- 58081856 +>>58081837 +Givi was from Luhansk, Motorola had medal for "liberation of Crimea", was kicked from Kharkiv before running away to Donetsk and everyone knows who Girkin is. Yes +--- 58081860 +>>58081847 +>Ukranians with M16A1s fighting against Wagnerite convict soldiers armed with lend-lease surplus in a Great War-esque muddy hellscape dominated by drones and artillery +--- 58081864 +>>58081710 +I’m gonna be completely honest when I say I don’t really give a shit about Eastern European shitfest politics, but Givi always struck me as a cool guy. I have a lot of respect for someone who can go from working at a rope factory to being a decently successful rebel military leader. Was bummed when I learned that the Ukrainian glowies had gotten him. +--- 58081895 +>>58081837 +No, both Givi and Motorola were experienced spetsnaz soldiers, what makes you think some "literally whos?" would be put in charge of all the units assigned to the region? +--- 58081906 +>>58081895 +Motorolla maybe. Givi? substatiate your claims +--- 58081915 +>>58081895 +dodge this +--- 58081942 +>>58081201 (OP) +I recognize that gay blowjob! +--- 58081943 +>>58081595 +what if... those dead musicians are actually dead Ukrainians and this was all a ploy to get more ammunition. Prigozhin is a machiavellian super villian afterall. +--- 58081947 +>>58081915 +Did they actually headshot him? +--- 58081960 +>>58081943 +Have you seen the ukie trench assault vids? +--- 58081980 +>>58081595 +I'm sure this does wonders for morale +--- 58081986 +>>58081906 +>>58081915 +vatniggers screeching only further proves it +How about YOU tell me how a "security mall guard/coalmine worker/factory worker" since that narrative keeps changing all the time, COULD be assigned as COMMANDER of the forces, being responsible for planning and execution of offensive operations, huh? +--- 58081990 +>>58081736 +I would say Wagner is setting up to become a rebel faction that targets whomever (at Putin's direction) so that Russia can avoid the blame, but I just don't see Russia being capable of making that kind of play in 2023. diff --git a/k/58081300.txt b/k/58081300.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6fcc2e05fdcdf5254744a240152a328e76f270df --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081300.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 58081300 +What are some /k/ tv shows with good gunporn and shootan? + +Esp. those on streaming services because the good stuff like black lagoon and gunsmith cats aren't on those iirc +--- 58081641 +The HBO classics: Band of Brothers, The Pacific, and Generation Kill. Not super /k/ because of the dumbass 80s noguns weapon designs, but Spawn the Animated Series is pretty good and is on HBO as well. Has some cool special forces stuff. +--- 58081935 +Reilly: Ace of Spies (TV Mini Series 1983) +Danger UXB (TV Series 1979) +The Professionals (TV Series 1977–1983) +S.W.A.T. (TV Series 1975–1976) +Tour of Duty (TV Series 1987–1990) +Survivors (TV Series 1975–1977) +Ninja butai gekkô (TV Series 1964) +China Beach (TV Series 1988–1991) +The Equalizer (TV Series 1985–1989) +A Man Called Hawk (TV Series 1989) diff --git a/k/58081331.txt b/k/58081331.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..92bbe8f8b45ed90fd48b1ab53bd932f682f9480b --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081331.txt @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +----- +--- 58081331 +Hey /k/, I need your help. I got me a 30 feet glass fiber telescopic pole to use it with wire radio antennas (T2LT for example). Pic sorta related. Not the same pole but it shows my problem real good. +The pole is deep, glossy black. So it stands out like a sore thumb against most backgrounds. +Here's the thing: I use mine in a broad range of different locations. So I can't say it's always covered by trees or there are hills in the background or whatever. + +So what would be the best color choice camo-wise? I'm thinking about some sort of medium gray like they use it on planes so it's always sorta camouflaged no matter if there's blue sky, clouds or landscape in the background. Perhaps the lower 1/4 of the pole painted in olive drab. Any other ideas? +--- 58081512 +Bright orange with a blinking light on top as to not hard low flying vehicles. Think safer, op. +--- 58081530 +>>58081512 +Anon, the pole is just ~30 feet. If I were in a situation where planes or helos fly that low over my head I sure got different problems - so do the crews of the aircraft. diff --git a/k/58081361.txt b/k/58081361.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ed86b6f672a71f825bd351f22248aadf9c72204b --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081361.txt @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +----- +--- 58081361 +UR-77 of the 28th Specialized Brigade strikes at Russian positions in the Bakhmut direction. + +Nice shockwave. + +The 2nd vid shows what looks like a trailing wire. https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1654213814668197891/video/2 +--- 58081383 +it's ya mum's dildo +--- 58081434 +>>58081361 (OP) +>what weapon it is +>ur-77 + +Just BING it +--- 58081969 +>>58081434 +>UR-77 +Ah dammit. For some reason I thought that was some team of the 28th Spec Brigade. I'm going to bed... long day at work. Thanks anon. diff --git a/k/58081389.txt b/k/58081389.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1ba0c36d77dbfcaf662ba5760223eb96ca4331bd --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081389.txt @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +----- +--- 58081389 +non-lethal weapons +--- 58081781 +>>58081389 (OP) +You know what today is, Matrix? Payday. +--- 58081835 +Working as advertised diff --git a/k/58081436.txt b/k/58081436.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e000df9200005f0e70da93be347896f9475ad4ff --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081436.txt @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@ +----- +--- 58081436 +What kind of equipment does Ukraine have to be able to put 20T vehicles atop of high rise buildings ? +--- 58081443 +>ESL concern troll thread +--- 58081448 +>>58081436 (OP) +how does shooting down your own drone give your permission to bomb civvie apartment blocks +i thinm russians might be retarded. +--- 58081468 +>>58081436 (OP) +Good Day SIR! + +You are to be receiving compensation for your dutiful posting today SIR! + +Please to be continuing to be posting SIR! +--- 58081478 +>>58081436 (OP) +A 19T crane? +--- 58081494 +>>58081436 (OP) +>residential building +>which was thereby turned into military facility +so the building where Putin happens to be in is valid target too? Hes a lieutenant colonel. +--- 58081505 +Sage for being a foreigner. +--- 58081817 +>>58081505 +Where's foreinger? +--- 58081841 +>>58081436 (OP) +>concern trolling +--- 58081859 +>>58081436 (OP) +Do these faggots seriously think it was Iris-t on top of that building and not just some fucking manpad squad +--- 58081870 +>>58081436 (OP) +So Himars on the 3rd floor of a School was real after all +Piggies owned and roasted as always +--- 58081886 +MANPAD +--- 58081887 +I dont get it, incel slave implying its iris-t radar dish in red circle or something? its just blurry white spot +--- 58081905 +>>58081887 +Looks like the sun when you look at it through thick clouds. diff --git a/k/58081496.txt b/k/58081496.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..331c95f45ab2a759f5a6c702261d7026e737ef9e --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081496.txt @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +----- +--- 58081496 +This is fucking pathetic, and Russia is about to lose. diff --git a/k/58081608.txt b/k/58081608.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7270d1b59e48b5e7da3c49612be5951768eac102 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081608.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 58081608 +how does SWAT compare to your average grunt? are they better or worse? +--- 58081634 +>>58081608 (OP) +different applications. SWAT are only really good for a few use cases. SWAT have to respond rapidly to usually relatively quick situations, but grunts have to endure the stress, boredom, and fear in war. these are just my opinons. +--- 58081650 +Grunts can legally use airstrikes to clear rooms and shoot on sight +SWAT can legally use tear gas and can shoot on sight if nobody is around with a body cam + +That's about all the difference. +--- 58081660 +Different approaches to the same problem. SWAT have to pretend to care about bringing in a suspect alive, grunts have no such problem. But SWAT can get some pretty cool toys like cameras and armored bobcats whereas grunts make do with boots, shotguns and Bradley ramps. +--- 58081865 +>>58081608 (OP) +SWAT are trained for CQB shit for short periods of time, grunts are trained for long term operations and far longer range engagements. Are they 'better' than a grunt? Probably, but unless they served then went into SWAT, they'll have little to no training or experience in long term fighting that grunts do. +--- 58081918 +You're in my way, sir. diff --git a/k/58081667.txt b/k/58081667.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..bcfbaf4b342ec33b65d2755024ba275c7f7e614d --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081667.txt @@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +----- +--- 58081667 +what should you feed captured vatniks? +--- 58081692 +>>58081667 (OP) +HATObugs +--- 58081702 +>>58081667 (OP) +This one? Not that much. +--- 58081704 +>>58081667 (OP) +that tushonka steve said was one of the best he's ever had in an MRE +--- 58081707 +>>58081667 (OP) +Dogs, to complete the vatnik-dog-vatnik cycle. +--- 58081712 +>>58081667 (OP) +--- 58081716 +>>58081667 (OP) +Come here my pet russian I have a drink for you +>gas mask noises +--- 58081719 +>>58081667 (OP) +feed? +--- 58081720 +He's eating really odd like someone with a mouth problems or brain problems +--- 58081728 +>>58081702 +Spbp +--- 58081744 +>>58081667 (OP) +Whos gonna bet this is the first actually good meal he had in a while? +--- 58081768 +>>58081667 (OP) +>what should you feed captured vatniks? +if they are anything like the ducks at the park you can take home with you for free, anything from vegetables like tomatoes, carrots, lettuce, cucumber to berries to seeds to bugs, slugs, snails and grass. + +>>58081692 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRVwpi8WebE&t=865 [Embed] +--- 58081778 +>>58081667 (OP) +Dry cat food. +--- 58081791 +>>58081778 +I can believe cat eat that shit, it's hard as rock +--- 58081798 +>>58081791 +Better than the wet shit that you can smell from 20 feet away and makes you gag +--- 58081803 +>>58081667 (OP) +This nigga eatin beans! +--- 58081809 +>>58081778 +>>58081791 +I used to eat some whenever I passed the cat's bowl as a kid, it's alright. diff --git a/k/58081697.txt b/k/58081697.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..da1f3644f996db07440c21137db2035ee9f78cf0 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081697.txt @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +----- +--- 58081697 +Saruman! Sauron! Where are you?! We have only one Nazgula and 80% shortages in the stock of burning oil. How are we supposed to storm Minas Tirith? How many more orcs must die on the Pelennor Fields? +--- 58081741 +racist +--- 58081782 +>>58081697 (OP) +The resemblance is uncanny +--- 58081784 +>>58081697 (OP) +I laughed op if it makes you happy +--- 58081797 +>>58081697 (OP) +I like. Here's your you. +--- 58081842 +>>58081697 (OP) +>How many more orcs must die on the Pelennor Fields? +Yes +--- 58081853 +>>58081697 (OP) +kek, reminds me of this one from the very start of the war +--- 58081866 +>>58081853 +Another one +--- 58081873 +>>58081866 +--- 58081882 +>>58081853 +here's one of mine +--- 58081904 +>>58081741 +Nobody would dehumanize and call Russians orcs if they didn't constantly act exactly like it. +--- 58081908 +>>58081697 (OP) +(you) +--- 58081958 +>>58081866 +Why did Saruman continue making his orcs' pointy ears resemble elvish ears, when his orcs have no connection to Mordor orcs, which actually were mutilated elves mostly from the first age? diff --git a/k/58081826.txt b/k/58081826.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9604d09d2dbe6990f80277f895a9225393385f57 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081826.txt @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +----- +--- 58081826 +Now that Russia is testing its tactical nukes after the drone attack on Kremlin, should Ukraine halt its counteroffensive before it's too late and Russia uses its Iskanders on Ukrainian territory? We don't want nuclear Holocaust to happen, right? +--- 58081831 +>>58081826 (OP) +I heard the same rhetoric after bridge bombing. They lie as always. +--- 58081836 +>>58081826 (OP) +Source in Russian: https://www.moscowtimes.eu/2023/05/04/rossiya-otrepetirovala-takticheskii-yadernii-udar-posle-ataki-bespilotnikov-na-kreml-a42221 +--- 58081843 +>>58081826 (OP) +NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS +--- 58081845 +Did you know that Russia has N-U-K-E-S? +--- 58081849 +>>58081826 (OP) +--- 58081858 +OOK OOK ME NOOK NOOK +--- 58081878 +>>58081826 (OP) +Russia as a state never made any nuclear test +last one was in 1991 iirc +--- 58081881 +>>58081826 (OP) +Yes, we want nuclear holocaust +--- 58081888 +>>58081826 (OP) +>kaliningrad +who are they actually trying to intimidate? +--- 58081897 +>>58081878 +To be fair, with the computing power available since the 80ies you didn't have to. +Any test today is done purely to send political signals, see Norks. +--- 58081903 +75% chance that if he uses a nuke he'll accidentally hit his own city. +--- 58081979 +>>58081826 (OP) +Vatniks quetching about nukes have the state of mentality of blue-haired teens that want their school to burn. diff --git a/k/58081875.txt b/k/58081875.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..80963184447de0477c59efe81d68ebde74757c31 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081875.txt @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +----- +--- 58081875 +which do you prefer? diff --git a/k/58081876.txt b/k/58081876.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e40f33b806e1b82dd27c458e9ff4fff2379c4d6a --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081876.txt @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@ +----- +--- 58081876 +Does this nigga truly believe he can erect five “castles” in that shit land bogan bush he bought? He must be delusional. + +I dare you to get through at least a minute of his horrendous blogs he keeps making about his redneck family and his hideous designs that will probably end up being plywood garbage. The man is the literal incarnation of the basedjack. +--- 58081912 +I'm glad he speaks like a english cuck and not a proper aussie, makes me feel like I can live in a mind palace where he isn't australian +--- 58081931 +>>58081876 (OP) +>erect five “castles” +--- 58081953 +>>58081876 (OP) +who this? +--- 58081977 +>>58081953 +https://www.youtube.com/@shadiversity/videos diff --git a/k/58081930.txt b/k/58081930.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f7ab90ccd4c2b15dbdf997495cd9c5de361eef39 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081930.txt @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +----- +--- 58081946 +girkin won +--- 58081954 +kwab +--- 58081966 +>>58081930 (OP) +/chug/ sissies.... not like this. diff --git a/k/58081932.txt b/k/58081932.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..136c9715501e898779c028ebd0c5337f86db72d7 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081932.txt @@ -0,0 +1,24 @@ +----- +--- 58081932 +>Russia will never take Bakhmut +--- 58081938 +>>58081932 (OP) +rusniggers are so pathetic they can't even take one small city +--- 58081963 +>>58081932 (OP) +The reality is that Wagner is out of troops. The whole "give me ammo" shtick is just a way to save face and seem more competent than this goblin really is. In 4 months 90% of the people will not be able to remember his name and Wagner will completely disappear. +--- 58081964 +Oh so now that they leave it's suddenly a village +--- 58081976 +>a small village in eastern Ukraine buck broke the entirety of Russia +just lol +--- 58081988 +>>58081976 +Bakhmut was a NATO kill zone +--- 58081991 +>>58081932 (OP) +>VDV +>Spetznaz +>Wagner + +Taking bets on the next 'elite' russian military force to get buck broken on the anvil of the SMO. diff --git a/k/58081951.txt b/k/58081951.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..501bfb4b4d4573ca16bd772a7ef00f5652c90e80 --- /dev/null +++ b/k/58081951.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +----- +--- 58081951 +Continued from >>58078100 → + +Original video (now with subtitles) + +https://nitter.net/wartranslated/status/1654263136529141766 +--- 58081981 +>>58081951 (OP)