Wed Apr 26 08:31:07 UTC 2023

k/57934259.txt

@@ -516,3 +516,38 @@ I suspect a horse would.
 >>57967380
 Do to their unstable quantum structure portals fluctuate in size at a rate of 1m/s while unobserved.
 when a portal is observed visually or a sapient entity is within 50ft of it the portal will stabilize
+--- 57969838
+Guys, need help quick. A bunch of Amazon's just moved into the neighborhood and they are pushing the local government to give them government mandated husbands. I am ready, but my pelvis is not. What do I do bros?
+--- 57970340
+>>57969838
+Pray. Alternatively, use gun.
+--- 57972638
+>>57970340
+What caliber for the big gals?
+--- 57972657
+>>57934259 (OP)
+bump
+--- 57972659
+>>57969838
+Call for a Wizard and explain quickly as they do not have much time to listen to mindless chattering of the…magically impaired…why you need pelvis reinforcement.
+--- 57972689
+>>57934259 (OP)
+I'm a glitterboy with a boom cannon. 
+Nobody messes with me
+--- 57974735
+>>57972689
+>famously vulnerable to brain-magic
+--- 57975305
+>>57968104
+Based
+>>57968125
+Ok, but will a horse fit through it?
+--- 57977366
+>>57934259 (OP)
+--- 57979613
+>>57968125
+>post filled with words like sapient and fluctuate
+>do to
+--- 57980032
+>>57979613
+Ain't that a pick in the teeth.

k/57934267.txt

@@ -1035,3 +1035,199 @@ Christ is King
 If you don't agree with those facts then you're either a reddit tranny or a butthurtbelte
 --- 57968476
 >>>/trash/
+--- 57968913
+>>57968476
+This
+--- 57970319
+>>57935660
+No it's not?
+--- 57970363
+>>57959039
+>Germans have got their revenge fifty times over,
+
+Lol no? They lost the fucking war, and lost their military. Nowadays it's full of trannies and faggots.
+--- 57970460
+>>57935353
+nice 3d model
+now take mosin cope stick out your grandads ass and reintegrate yourself into the Ukrainian soil
+--- 57970507
+>>57959387
+>Your ACR copy
+
+This is an entirely new platform, designed from scratch you dumb fucktard. Don't' talk about things you have no knowledge about retarded nigger.
+>You're not independent, you're merely under new management.
+
+And you are a retarded fucking Russnigger, under kike management.
+--- 57970518
+>>57967804
+>AKs is the greatest weapon platform known to man and BTFOs ARs every time
+
+No it doesn't you dumb fuck.
+--- 57970592
+>>57970363
+They literally ended up having it better than you despite Poland supposedly winning the war.
+But even setting WW2 aside, Prussians owned you for more than a century. To this day you celebrate independence from Germany that you only recieved thanks to the most incompetent American president in modern history, independence that you lost 20 years later to Germans and Soviets, independence you only regained only in 1989, just so you could sell it back to Germany later.
+I mean, for all they care German military might as well disassemble itself. They have layers upon layers of disposable Slav(e)s that will die for freedom of everyone else but them.
+--- 57970621
+>>57970592
+They literally didn't, and their army is shit tier nowadays. They are so fucking scared of Russia, that they didn't even send any hardware to help Ukraine until very recently.
+
+We won our independence in 1918 after uprising.
+>just so you could sell it back to Germany later.
+Wtf you are even talking about you moron? We did not sell anything to Germany, and we are still independent.
+--- 57970658
+>>57959039
+>Germans have got their revenge fifty times over,
+Funny you speak of that.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTJuq1QgfOg [Embed]
+--- 57970669
+>>57970658
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aEGAT8bUMI [Embed]
+--- 57970677
+>>57970669
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHlP3hg0dy0 [Embed]
+--- 57970707
+>>57970677
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bohVZ4K-DRo [Embed]
+--- 57970719
+>>57970621
+The only reason you're not dying in poverty right now is because everyone is focusing on Ukraine.
+The second it blows over Poland will be hit hard with sanctions over it's unconstitutional dictatorship and sooner rather than later the friendly EU puppet government of Tusk will be back to slash all military spending, cancel all those insane projects and beg Germany for forgiveness.
+--- 57970721
+>>57970707
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lybGPi8kAcE [Embed]
+--- 57970727
+>>57970658
+>>57970669
+>>57970677
+>>57970707
+>>57970721
+We wuz Soviets and shieeet!!!
+--- 57970730
+>>57970721
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C1R7a8glnk [Embed]
+--- 57970773
+>>57970727
+NOT SOVIETS, POLES, you moron.
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Tadeusz_Kościuszko_Infantry_Division
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Polish_Army_(1944–1945)
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zygmunt_Berling
+--- 57970848
+>>57970773
+Okay, the guy that basically won WW2 and became Soviet but was Polish was Rokossowski.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sNlRq0ORU [Embed]
+--- 57970867
+>>57970848
+;)
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anloJI4AqLg [Embed]
+
+P.S: The Polish People's Republic wasn't part of the USSR and thus wasn't a Soviet state, just fyi.
+--- 57970889
+>>57970719
+Ukraine has nothing to do with it you dumb fuck, and no, we are not going to cut anything back on our military.
+--- 57971046
+>>57970592
+>Prussians owned you for more than a century.
+And Poland owned [Ducal] Prussia for CENTURIES, two centuries.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtnc9Hi_fls [Embed]
+--- 57971281
+>>57970592
+>To this day you celebrate independence from Germany that you only recieved thanks to the most incompetent American president in modern history,
+Thanks to US FIGTHING FOR OUR INDEPENDECE and TAKING IT BACK BY FORCE:
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5MqnrnWuN8 [Embed]
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Poland_uprising_(1918–1919)
+--- 57971289
+>>57971281
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mCfMy5fT_Q [Embed]
+--- 57971295
+>>57971289
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdoU0dQcrGc [Embed]
+--- 57971946
+>>57963996
+I kno rite? It's a complete clusterfuck... Enjoy!
+--- 57971956
+>>57935353
+oh would you look at that a russhit cuck has a meltdown at the mere mention of Poland
+--- 57972125
+>>57960701
+Poland is truly the protagonist of history
+--- 57972655
+>>57954682
+Idk what backpack that is, but that's the way the EMR fabric looks in person. It's all dyed so it comes out in varying shades.
+--- 57972824
+>>57972125
+Can't figure out if unironic schizopost anymore
+--- 57972888
+>>57970848
+>Rokossowski was Polish
+Spit that out you swine bastard. Rokossowski was a traitor, murderer and a criminal whose only positive accomplishment was that he died from ass cancer.
+https://youtu.be/_Fw2C3UMFT8 [Embed]
+--- 57973036
+>>57972888
+Oh stfu, he might have been a traitor, but regardless, he took Berlin and was still a Pole from a Polish noble and patriotic family.
+--- 57973420
+>>57972125
+>protagonist of history
+Yeah, but the genre is domination loss, yaoi and rape.
+--- 57973580
+>>57973036
+Nice cipe vatnik
+--- 57974382
+>>57973580
+>vatnik
+RUDE.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqHhdnv0CDw [Embed]
+--- 57974432
+>>57947977
+does this prevent magazine from locking in though?
+--- 57974457
+>>57974432
+Clearly not, would still lock and load, and fire.
+--- 57974490
+The SCAR has a stock like that, it's a nice design with the profile of the receiver, foldable as well.
+--- 57974725
+>>57972888
+Rokosowski was based you fag
+--- 57974788
+>>57959387
+>>Your ACR copy is as Polish as wz.29 Mausers or Radom made Tantals or Beryls
+
+Lol, shut the fuck up you ignorant moron. If you are a russnigger, then I can say that your glorious AK is a fucking stg44 copy. If you are muhrican, your Springfield is a mauser copy. Get it throught your fucking head westoids/vatniggers. Poles do know how to innovate.
+--- 57974925
+>>57935353
+>Rifle without a single speck of dust on it.
+>Arid ground
+>xoxol remover 
+
+Best use that gun to remove yourself from the gene pool, comrade LARPovich
+--- 57976342
+>>57973420
+>Yeah, but the genre is domination loss, yaoi and rape.
+Nice COPE, now SEETHE:
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F34FvVBbUdk [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFe4X1ig1IM [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgl77ZdyxvE [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEluK0e0Lw [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy5E-G-7pI8 [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57yKKZeTeSA [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwYpeZ0fJjw [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4vDW2y6y0 [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukyquQkQAYo [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g--d8PocPYE [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udodbtCso3k [Embed] - English subtitles (CC).
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dilc5-Yt2ZQ [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk0IZsshET0 [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EZO12D1RlQ [Embed]
+--- 57976376
+>>57935353
+>>57935414 >>57935539 >>57940441 >>57941046 >>57942247 >>57954682 >>57958612 >>57961973 >>57962992 >>57970460 >>57971956 >>57974925
+>all these butt hurt poorfags
+--- 57977734
+>>57962992
+A flamingly homosexual one for Wagner cock.
+--- 57979683
+>>57976376
+Stfu Wagner cum socket.
+--- 57980469
+>>57972824
+The Polchad is never unironic.

k/57934893.txt

@@ -486,3 +486,140 @@ No slap on a laser sight as big as the gun.
 >>57934893 (OP)
 These things are dumb as hell.
 I want to wear a brace of six of them and pretend to be a pirate.
+--- 57969281
+I just think it's neat.
+--- 57969292
+>>57943319
+
+That's sexy as hell.
+--- 57969346
+Bullpups. All of the Bullpups.
+
+The Israeli Tavor and Keltec are my top.
+--- 57969366
+>>57942762
+One of my great uncles actually carried/was issued one of these when he was on Bougainville. I think i even got a picture of him with it somewhere.
+--- 57969426
+I miss this little nigga like you wouldn't believe. But I also live in a ban state, so life is suffering. Can't even get the bb gun version of her.
+--- 57969451
+why yall nerds care so much about muh gun performance when you never killed anyone?
+--- 57969538
+>>57969451
+We always have a fun little gun trivia competition at the weekly gangbang your mother hosts. The winner gets to put it in whatever hole he wants.
+So yeah it pays to know these things.
+--- 57969555
+>>57937034
+I believe the patents would still be active on it. I've designed one with a quick swap barrel so that it accepts multiple ammunition. Since the gun can basically load any ammo that fits inside a ground case it should be able to fire anything
+--- 57969614
+>>57938316
+John woo movies make you want these
+--- 57969713
+>>57944247
+>CZ: sometimes you just know
+--- 57970040
+>>57969538
+thats a cute fanfiction but how come youre a nokills fag?
+--- 57970613
+>>57963017
+It's an awesome round. I've got an upper made by the OG's at Tromix. It will shake you but nothing unmanageable.
+--- 57971058
+>>57958346
+this is fucking perfection, what is this?? i always loved grease guns because how tubey they are and this is the queen of tubes.
+--- 57971083
+>>57964784
+aesthetically the 1911 looks way better in a compact design IMO. honestly was never a big fan until i saw the compacts
+--- 57971399
+>>57970613
+I wanna try 500-600 grains for fun...but I maybe should get an adjustable gas block first
+--- 57971952
+>>57959762
+>Theres loads for sale in the UK,
+i wonder if there is a way for me to go to ingerland, buy them all and re sell them here in the states
+--- 57972178
+the sights are shit, the clips are shit, the ammo is shit, and the firing pin is shit, but god damn is it a fine looking rifle
+--- 57972327
+>>57935021
+There's one in the shop every time I go in taunting me. Keep debating between grabbing it or custom ordering one
+--- 57972523
+>>57966012
+I bought it as it is. I'm czechanon. In some ways, gun laws are much cooler here.
+--- 57972640
+>>57971058
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTRD-41
+--- 57972898
+>>57937553
+Yep. Thing is tons o’ fun.
+--- 57973346
+The SOLA Super
+Idk such a janky looking gun from such a fancy country
+--- 57974941
+>>57934893 (OP)
+Looks neat
+--- 57975238
+>57970040
+>trying this hard
+Pfft…come on now sir
+surely a certified badass such as yourself can come up with something better to rile me up?
+Do you expect me to believe that an actual hardened killer of men would find himself outmatched in a battle of wits by a Siberian croquet enthusiast board?
+Feel free to triple-down.
+I shall remain unimpressed.
+--- 57976298
+>>57969451
+>yall
+Why do you care what land owning whites think when you're clearly a welfare nigger?
+--- 57977419
+>>57934893 (OP)
+Not really impractical, but I just had to have a Ruger Redhawk .44 mag, with a 4" barrel. It's pretty blase as far as wild guns go, but I love that heavy fucker.
+--- 57977864
+Derringer
+>shit
+>outdated
+>expensive
+But I still want one.
+--- 57977874
+>>57977864
+Fuck! Wrong pic.
+Anyway, the same goes to single action revolvers.
+--- 57977924
+>>57969555
+it has been over 20 years. All patents are expired.
+--- 57977943
+>>57934893 (OP)
+I don't have a pic of it and I refuse to take one right now but I love my bolt action .410 shotgun with a 3 round internal magazine and no trigger guard. Just fun to shoot.
+--- 57978858
+>>57972640
+the fact that it's anti-tank makes it even more bad ass
+--- 57979020
+Obviously this is art, doesn't make it modern/useful enough to carry around in modern day but I still want it, almost like it's my "evil villain" gun
+--- 57979054
+>>57934893 (OP)
+My dream is to one day waste a rogue M113 driver who tries to run over pedestrians with this.
+--- 57979458
+>>57961708
+>Burgess folding shotgun
+Based. Might sell my left ball for a modern repro of this, especially a smol one in 20ga.
+--- 57979501
+The G43X. It's like a G26 except you can't put a G19 mag in it with an xgrip.
+--- 57979701
+>>57937034
+i am starting to learn 3d printing and brazing brass, one day, long time from now, i want to make 1:1 scale (almost) functional brass copies of stuff like this. less so an art piece, but something you leave on your desk and finger fuck for fun.
+--- 57979708
+>>57979020
+i wonder if someone would take you seriously if you tried to rob them with this. to those who "dont know", this is some toy a cosplayer would have. surprise the fuck outta them when it fires.
+--- 57979714
+>>57979020
+i want a Bergman 1910 so bad. I'd love an 1896 as well but I want one that I can shoot. Every time I see one up in Rock Island I get so tempted
+Bergman's and Krags. Every time I see one I can barely stop myself
+--- 57979744
+>>57979714
+--- 57979792
+>>57945757
+what is this shit?
+--- 57979812
+I love it even though it never saw real use. The concept of the different types of ammo, the drum mag, the minimalist aesthetic, it all makes me happy.
+--- 57979822
+>>57979792
+the shotgun everyones been putting as underbarrel shotguns in all the new elitetacticool shooters. a mass 26 or something? its just dressed up as if youd use it standalone for some dumb fuckin reason. looks cool. its bolt action or something, so thats different, i guess.
+--- 57980417
+>>57968175
+I would if the barrel was threaded, would be very aesthetic. If it had a rail, I'd attach a laser too for shits and giggles. It's nice when you have a dedicated range toy because you're not considering practicality just fun.

k/57938385.txt

@@ -854,3 +854,208 @@ On a budget? Almost anyone would recommend the Velocity Gen IV:
 
 Maybe you're Mister Moneybags? The Tracer Tactical Recon Kit strikes me as being really nice:
 >https://tracer-tactical.com/products/reconnaissance-kit
+--- 57969085
+>>57965297
+Varusteleka is very good. I got their fishtail parka repro which is perfectly fine and superior to the original, and several merino wool garments which seriously beat all competition out there. And surplus aside, I got plenty accessories: socks, hats, gloves, balaclava, belts... all great stuff.
+
+I'm guessing you can't go too wrong with their BDUs and shit.
+--- 57969153
+>>57961964
+That is a 501.... They don't have screw on mounts.
+--- 57969930
+>>57967747
+If you want to roll your own you could always get the Eagle Rhodesian Recon rig and throw whatever pouches you needed on there. Otherwise I'd say the Platatac Peacekeeper MK5.
+--- 57970133
+>>57965575
+B8>>57965554
+What do you need to carry? If another mag another mag. If something special, a pouch that fits it. If nothing nothing.
+>>57966434
+>>57966466
+Fog is gay but Ferro makes good stuff. Furthermore, remember that FOG didn’t invent the thing, just used the idea from some 18D acquaintance of theirs and their weird internet pull to actually get them mass produced.
+They’re ok, though. I have one on each kit but they’re not really a main all-encompassing ifak, just extra bleeding control and chest seals
+>>57967747
+Crye airline and Crye everything? 
+>t AVS chest rig owner but mayflower user
+--- 57970981
+>>57969930
+>you could always just get a hard to find, overpriced, outdated rig
+yeah you could, but why?
+--- 57971079
+>>57944222
+maybe
+--- 57971090
+>>57970981
+>hard to find
+>outdated
+>overpriced
+Baker Tactical Surplus
+You’re also just wrong
+--- 57971563
+>>57963524
+>>57971079
+I'm just gonna get a SATL for cheap off ebay and actually buy it
+--- 57971669
+>>57969085
+Can confirm varusteleka has the best value merino garments, their whole knife line is great, and some of their gear and surplus hits the mark. Just make sure you buy in big chunks because you are basically forced to use DHL shipping. DHL to get stuff in less than a week or if you use the finn post office over a month.
+--- 57971721
+>>57970133
+>they’re not really a main all-encompassing ifak
+whys that? not big enough? 
+i wanted one because having a PC ifak sounds good for civilian SHTF grab and go, and also in my area I'd imagine I am in and out of vehicles a lot.
+--- 57972000
+>>57970981
+You're a retard they're all over the used market on Ebay and elsewhere
+--- 57972134
+>>57969153
+Huh?
+--- 57972145
+>>57969153
+Oh
+--- 57972157
+>>57969153
+Suck my fart. Get good man sucks to be you.
+--- 57972210
+>CringePatch
+>Gamertag (also cringe patch)
+I know, I know.
+--- 57972219
+>>57969153
+Inb4 muh thats a gen 2, maybe stop looking at shit.
+--- 57972249
+>>57972210
+The gayest part of that picture are the RMA plates.
+--- 57972252
+>>57972210
+>RMA
+lol
+--- 57972264
+>>57969153
+Inb4 thats a mid cut
+--- 57972312
+>>57972249
+Oh did I forget that one.
+
+Need to upgrade. All my guns / gear was acquired over last year and I did not do enough research on plates. Bad move.
+--- 57972328
+>>57965297
+varustreleka are anti gun right faggots, but youre probably the noguns italian sperg so u wont mind that
+--- 57972346
+>>57972210
+reminder that reddit voted for the yeet cannon moniker, channers were out here voting for 'problem solva' as the name. sadly we lost, as we were outnumbered by the numales. 
+
+however, i can safely say that whoever took that picture is a reddit faggot
+--- 57972399
+>>57972346
+>keks in multi-platform enjoyer
+
+I like to be exposed to all kinds of internet autism. Not just 4chan
+--- 57972560
+>>57972264
+https://midwestarmor.com/products/armorsource-as-501-gen-ii-high-cut-ultra-lightweight-helmet/ Doesnt have it
+https://www.securityprousa.com/products/armorsource-helmet-as-501-ljd-security-aire-ballistic-helmet-level-iiia
+Doesnt have it
+https://botach.com/armor-source-ultra-lightweight-high-cut-ballistic-helmet-w-boa-4-point-retention/
+Doesnt have it
+Idk dude you must have an older one.
+--- 57973172
+>>57971721
+Basically. In something like an LBT or Eagle RLCS/SOFLCS ifak pouch you can have a full compliment of CoTCCC recommended adjuncts AND a blood collection bag AND another tourniquet in addition to the ones on your kit/pockets etc, whereas the roll 1, you’re lucky to get a 3” tape, a 4” ACE or ETD, an NCD, NPA, combat gauze and compressed gauze with maybe two chest seals in the slip section.
+There are arguments to be made for how “little” a “civ focused” ifak can hold and, like o said, I have one on each PC, but it’s kinda anemic for “duty” use.
+>reach with either hand
+Is kinda moot because your ifak is really for other people to treat you. Your TQs are statistically the easiest/most likely thing you’ll apply to yourself. It’s unlikely you can reach your own exit wound with a chest seal, etc>>57972399
+Go back, faggot. There is NOTHING good about r*ddit and there NEVER will be
+--- 57973889
+theres a person selling 5 SATLs, I want one but I'd like to pick the best available, the conditions seem very good, but there's always some surprise that can pop up ofc.
+I see that there seems to be 2 or 3 different iterations, like the one with the lighter colored straps, and then theres 2 different types of back panel.
+can someone help me choose?
+--- 57974872
+>>57949127
+>explicitly an airsoft brand
+nigger what the fuck are you talking about? Their stuff is made of good materials and has good design, what makes it an airsoft brand? Also even if that were true, if airsofters abuse the shit out of it and it holds up that means its good. As long as you cant show any proof of it not holding up to "real" abuse and we have a lot of examples of their shit holding up well whats your point?
+--- 57974879
+>>57972328
+please elaborate, what did they do?
+--- 57974947
+>finish my entire pattern 83 collection, even finding some rare pieces like the helmet and plate carrier
+>finish a pattern 70 kit
+>most of the way done with a pattern 61/64 kit
+
+I was so busy worrying about if I could collect african militaria than I never stopped to wonder if I should be collecting african militaria
+--- 57975224
+>>57972399
+cringe
+--- 57975617
+>>57973889
+do you think the beartooth 80 can be used as a ruck or is it too big? 
+thinking about it as an alternative for the satl
+--- 57975636
+>>57975617
+--- 57976437
+>>57973172
+If your ifak contains anything more beyond band aids, ibuprofen, one or two field dressings/gauze and bandages, and two spare TQ's along with two more worn outside the ifak; your expectations need to be readjusted to conform to reality. Especially if we're talking about guerrilla/insurgency type shit and not duty wear where you have the entirety of the US Army behind you for that.
+--- 57976553
+>>57976437
+My IFAK is just a bag full of a couple dozen decompression needles.
+--- 57976574
+>>57976437
+Doctors and hospitals don't magically disappear .00001 seconds after a happening, insurgents all the time have their own medical care networks. Is the quality of care as good as a fully staffed hospital in Germany? Absolutely not, but it still stands to reason you may be able to still survive some wounds with immediate combat first aid that can be treated later.
+--- 57976679
+>>57959077
+Do poors really?
+--- 57976744
+Anyone have any experience with the G-Code Assaulter's Plate Carrier? I love my G-Code mag pouches and I like the drip of the laser cut material on this carrier. I was gonna get it with no Cummerbund and use a Shaw Arc 2.0 Cummerbund that I already have. Thoughts?
+
+https://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/sync-series-assaulters-plate-carrier/
+--- 57976933
+>>57976574
+>go to hospital
+>"hey son, how did you get these 5.56 bullet wounds?"
+>"ahhhhhhhh"
+>*hanged*
+Good plan anon.
+--- 57977567
+Why do so many people assume the only time their IFAK will come into use is during a complete civilizational collapse scenario where all hospitals are abandoned and/or set on fire? People who think like this live in a fantasy world.
+
+Typical street violence and accidents are FAR more likely. Violent civil unrest situations are likely in the future in the US, and hospitals aren't just going to disappear. Did all the hospitals gets burned down in LA during the LA riots? Obviously not.
+
+There isn't going to be some sort of Civil War II scenario where the power grid is down nationwide and people are shooting each other in streets or whatever. Get a grip.
+
+>muh boog
+--- 57977596
+>Condor: Beyond Expectation
+--- 57978714
+>>57976933
+You’re an idiot and I’m not doing my “make friends now instead of demanding help later” or “Balkans” diatribes again
+--- 57978936
+>>57978714
+Sounds more like cope to justify you buying probably hundreds of dollars worth at least, to possibly even thousands of dollars worth in medical shit that will mean fuck all because casevac doesn't exist for you in SHTF and even if you have a place to go to get fixed; you're talking like dozens of miles at best from wherever the fuck shit is popping off. There's a reason why IFAK's became more advanced compared to Cold War era shit. Not because technology advanced or it became cheaper or doctrine changes or whatever, but because casevac become more accessible during low intensity conflicts thanks to the helicopter and the understanding that if the Cold War ever actually went hot, there would be no point to issue advanced IFAK's because there would be no fucking way to casevac fucked up wounded when entire Soviet armies would be smashing through the lines.
+--- 57978958
+>>57977567
+I agree. I figure that if you're going to carry a gun for defensive purposes, you should probably be ready for the aftermath of having to use it, which is going to involve one or more people on the ground with holes in them.
+--- 57979033
+>>57977567
+If only you knew how bad things really are.
+--- 57979325
+>>57959927
+vtac sling is the best price for a decent two-point adjustable sling.
+--- 57979764
+Big Brain Smooth Brain idea of the day: has anyone ever put a plate carrier over a shoulder holster?
+--- 57979767
+>>57959927
+wellsmade bolt sling
+--- 57980138
+Can anyone source me a steel core leather gun belt sols in the EU? I'm LEO going from patrol to plainclothes and need a gun belt made of leather that will support the weight of a Beretta 92fs with a Surefire x300 and a spare magazine without sagging. Belt cannot be nylon, sadly. I'd like to order it from within the EU to avoid customs, import tax and most importantly waiting a month to receive it. 45mm wide would be best but 40 will do as well.
+--- 57980265
+>>57957593
+>European that is not on the EU
+So a Eurolarper then.
+--- 57980275
+>>57980138
+>Can anyone source me a steel core leather gun belt sols in the EU?
+I could, but I won't. I just hate Europeans. Call me a natural born hater.
+--- 57980310
+>>57980275
+>is white (presumably)
+>owns european made guns
+>probably has a european last name
+okay buddy

k/57938990.txt

@@ -846,3 +846,142 @@ it sucks don't buy it
 I don't know how it is in the rest of Europe but in Finland the conservative (read kike, not pro-gun) govt noticed that oy vey the postal service is not yet privatized. It got privatized but the law also wouldn't allow competition, so the prices went up and the service got worse but the only positive change was fatter wallets for some kike cronies. Not to go all postal on you here's my BR too
 --- 57967898
 40 dabloons at a gun show a few days back. Middle mag is a '69 heh
+--- 57969092
+time to go home from work bump
+--- 57969157
+Anyone had a chance to fingerfuck H.C.A.R.??
+
+I wonder if its more than a meme.
+--- 57969770
+>>57969157
+Only the airsoft version. It is more than a "meme", depending upon your correct vs. incorrect usage of the word. Only Noreen has greater firepower, until you step up to Barretts. Btw, there is something wrong with your wife's eyes.
+--- 57969780
+>>57969092
+Based vampire bumper. Binge iZombie.
+--- 57969799
+>>57967798
+Mandatory private monopoly, so crazy it might just work. Nice rifle, very nice rifle!
+--- 57969807
+>>57967795
+Doubt. Do want.
+--- 57970259
+>>57967773
+If they junk my gun because they're too lazy to fix it and they give me a new one they would be giving me a gun with new markings and I would have to redo my SBR bullshit.
+--- 57970295
+>>57970259
+>actually filing the paperwork for SBRs
+shiggy. very un-American of you.
+--- 57970306
+>>57967795
+I don't think you CAN buy it even if you wanted to. I'm always checking gun broker and it's been many months since I've seen one of these. Some websites don't even have a FAMAS like yours, it's so valuable anons probably couldn't afford a Famas even if it showed up for sale.
+--- 57970447
+Looking to put a suppressor on my sfar, what are your favorite 30 cal suppressors lads?
+--- 57970487
+>>57970447
+Are flow-thru suppressors a meme? They seem to be the hot thing right now.
+--- 57970552
+>>57970487
+>Are flow-thru suppressors a meme?
+Nah, they are what they should have been at the start. You'll never get hearing safe silencing without a lot of hoop jumping and COPING. So might as well just put on a Silencer that runs cooler, more efficiently, has back pressure strain and creates less carbon build up. The gains are well worth the 8db-10db trade off.
+--- 57970665
+>>57970487
+>>57970552
+Sounds neat anons, who makes some good ones?
+--- 57970863
+>>57969799
+Thanks, I have shot her criminally little this year. Over 1000 rds last year though, hope that makes up for some
+--- 57972189
+Reccomend me a good 7.62 NATO/308 semi auto rifle capable of 1km shots.
+--- 57972587
+>>57972189
+10/22
+--- 57972598
+>>57972189
+AR with an MPO 5-25X
+--- 57972605
+>>57972587
+Based
+--- 57972613
+>>57972598
+Already have a dpms ar10, haven't tried to push it out very far since everyone says they're shit. What else matters besides barrel for accuracy and range?
+--- 57972627
+>>57972613
+Consistent lockup and quality ammunition.
+--- 57972636
+>>57972627
+Gotcha. So a good bolt and ammo then. Any bcg recs for an lr308 pattern rifle?
+--- 57972676
+>>57972636
+They're basically all made by toolcraft anyway. 
+>>57972613
+Try it then
+--- 57973152
+>>57970259
+ah, I see
+--- 57974114
+>>57972613
+>What else matters besides barrel for accuracy and range?
+The atmosphere and gravity. Why don't you use what you have instead of letting strangers demotivate you and throwing money at a solution you don't have the skill for?
+>hey guys, name a good bike for me to win the Tour day France with?
+>t. I don't peddle yet.
+--- 57974855
+>>57974073
+.308 is great, but armies are always flip flopping between .308 and 5.56. .308 is great, but it has lower capacity and more weight. 5.56 is enough to put a person down, but not good against any type of barrier; cars, buildings, trees where your target might be hiding. We'll see what happens in the next ten years but we have the technology to build light weight .308 rifles like the Sfar.
+--- 57975411
+>>57974073
+Sounds like they need 300 blackout to me
+--- 57975565
+>>57951660
+Don't go for a polish girl if you can help it, they're megawhores. Russian women aren't much better as they're gold diggers. Try to stay away from both.
+--- 57975929
+>>57973934
+It's a dpms brand but with a 20" Brownells 1-10 5r barrel.
+--- 57976179
+good news everyone
+--- 57976385
+>>57975565
+Really? That sucks (no pun intended), but on the other hand that could be good. Just have to watch out for green card marriage shit assuming I even get that far in the short time I'll be there.
+--- 57976483
+I need a 5rd mag for hunting
+--- 57976768
+>>57976483
+Stick a dowel in it and it counts as a 5er
+--- 57976840
+>>57975565
+Kasia is trad waifu
+--- 57976853
+>>57976179
+???
+--- 57976896
+>>57976853
+see
+>>57941083
+--- 57977427
+>>57977383
+Fuck you Oxide. Gib them to me.
+--- 57977497
+>>57976840
+Based kasia enjoyer
+--- 57978110
+I JUST WANT TO BUY WOODEN FURNITURE FOR MY DSA FAL AAAAAAAAAAA
+--- 57978665
+>>57978110
+It was always too late. Also, have you tried the DSA Arms website?
+--- 57978742
+>>57978665
+>$150 for a roachwood stock that isn't even the right color
+--- 57978785
+>>57978665
+I have. I'm a stubborn fag that hates polymer.
+>>57978742
+Be nice :(
+--- 57978813
+>>57978785
+>Be nice :(
+No. DSA needs to step up their furniture, polymer and wood.
+It looks crap and it feels crap.
+--- 57980227
+Midnight bump
+--- 57980246
+>>57976840
+Kasia is love, Kasia is life.

k/57939242.txt

@@ -28,9 +28,6 @@ That's certainly not a "$20 buck knife" on his belt.
 --- 57943259
 >>57939242 (OP)
 I want a stag Trail Master too
---- 57943290
->>57939242 (OP)
-Big chopper reporting in
 --- 57943651
 >>57939242 (OP)
 the guy with skills beats the guy with gear. The guy with skills and gear beats both. Poor fags have neither skills nor gear
@@ -577,3 +574,60 @@ Be careful with your folding knives, bros. It hurts so bad...
 >>57943676
 >>57943681
 Where can I get those trousers, and that katana?
+--- 57969362
+>>57967965
+I do not think the Tactical Arm Bracer Vambrace will help you be more comfortable in social situations on campus Anon. 
+ Embrace the idea of quiet, comfortable and happy humility. Develop a physical fitness routine as outlined above. Be thoughtful and serious about nutrition. 
+ If you eat smart and healthy and work out for an hour three days a week you will see physical improvements that will help you be more confident and comfortable in social situations within a year. 
+Develop good habits for nutrition and physical fitness.
+--- 57969520
+>>57969362
+Don’t listen to this fag, I got my tactical vambraces last month and have been slaying puss and uppercutting punks into punch bowls
+--- 57969528
+>>57967959
+>Guns? They shoot things, some shoot better than others but mostly they shoot and some shoot bigger bullets
+--- 57969534
+>>57969520
+I found the guy that sells Tactical Vambraces
+--- 57971343
+Just picked up this maxpedition fixed blade at the swapmeet for $60. It's pretty nice.
+--- 57971365
+>>57967733
+Which one?
+--- 57971375
+>>57962329
+Lol, infi is such a gimmick. As someone who still owns a few it's not any better than 3v. Busse is literally a cult. Supposedly "indestructible" but I bent one on accident.
+--- 57971986
+anyone else only buy knives when they're on sale?
+though I guess it's different in the US, as sites like BladeHQ seem to have everything reduced below MSRP by default, whereas here in Europe the standard is MSRP price (and the MSRP is usually the same as the MSRP in dollars converted 1:1)
+--- 57972976
+>>57945034
+>>57945709
+>anon's house gets broken into by a pack of niggers
+>"b-but there was a 99.9% chance that this wouldn't happen!"
+>anon dies
+--- 57973002
+>>57944304
+have seax incelt
+--- 57974748
+>>57971365
+Darn Dao. Turns out the vendor is super scummy though, they don't actually stock the items they list and you wait months with no communication, no idea what's going on, and you might get the wrong item, might get no item, etc. So I decided against it.
+--- 57977030
+>>57974748
+I have bought some knives from Smoky Mountain Knife Works and have been happy with their service.
+--- 57977185
+>>57939242 (OP)
+>used to get entire handfuls of pocket knives at flea markets for 99 cents each
+>it’s all 30 dollars for a packaged morakniv now… and people buy them
+how times have changed
+--- 57977781
+>>57977185
+I think it will get worse faster. I have started to see knives as something that will get more expensive quickly. Knives are a good hedge against inflation. They are durable and tradable.
+--- 57977946
+>>57977185
+Each handful was 99cents?
+--- 57978529
+>>57977185
+A $30 Mora is worth $30. Those 99 cent knives are worth 99 cents.
+--- 57980102
+bought 2 automatics. Böker Strike and AKC Smarty

k/57939737.txt

@@ -437,3 +437,140 @@ Not really. Last I saw Simpson Ltd was selling at $500, others with accessories
 >>57961889
 
 It's been awhile but yes.
+--- 57970856
+>>57965846
+Israeli k98
+--- 57971347
+>>57968268
+yes, they're an excellent investment. 
+The prices on these keep rising they're easily outperforming the S&P500 or precious metals prices
+--- 57971478
+>>57971347
+I love mine but that’s so bullshit
+>>57971347 has even been rearsenaled.
+--- 57972172
+>>57971347
+>Simpsons
+>Product code starts with a C
+Yeah, that's not a real price.
+--- 57973023
+>>57972172
+Zoomers can't comprehend the basic pricing scheme of Simpsons.
+
+Although they really should suggest prices for consignors. They let someone sell a Saiga .308 AK for $500 last month.
+--- 57973233
+>>57961889
+Yes beside a mauser which is on its last leg
+--- 57973272
+>>57965846
+Spanish FR8 and Ishapore off the top of my head, maybe a few others out there that more learned anons may know
+--- 57973907
+>>57961889
+I just bought a shitload of PPU M2 ball and 7.5 swiss, thinking I'm gonna invite my childless uncle out to shoot my garand so he'll devise his gunz to me on his will.
+--- 57973947
+>>57961889
+It's pretty much all I shoot
+--- 57973949
+>>57953662
+I love the aesthetics of both, but k31 has a slight edge with the crest. The swiss don't miss.
+--- 57974442
+>>57945202
+This is good advice. I work in logistics and constantly see high dollar value items go missing en-route to the recipient. Lots of times, this is the result of a missed scan and the driver and his route manager will input it as some generic BS like they have on your tracking info. Don't they have to ship firearms requiring a signature? If so, ask for Proof of Delivery in the form of a signature. Should help with the whole issue and will probably come in handy should you need to get the letter agencies involved.
+--- 57975230
+Is $400 good for a 1945 type 99 from Hiroshima, with reloading dies, 100 bullets, and 50 brass? It looks good for last ditch, but the bolt is not matching.
+--- 57975402
+Yugo m48 vs Mosin m44
+
+I have a sudden itch to get into milsurps. There is a m44 near me for $400 with an ATI stock. Looks to be in good shape. I found a replacement stock for $150 with barrel bands at a local shop. 
+
+There’s also a cherry Yugo m48 at a different local shop. Looks to be almost unused. They’re asking $500. 
+
+Which would you pick? I just want a nice shooter with some history. Seems like ammo is similarly priced with a slight edge to the 8mm.
+--- 57975428
+>>57975402
+Yugo m48
+--- 57975439
+>>57975402
+You can get M44s with an original stock for less than $550 online.
+
+In general Mausers are nicer rifles but it's personal preference. Mosin carbines have a big fun factor to them.
+
+$500 for a yugo isn't bad in current year, but I personally wouldn't drop that on one.
+--- 57975441
+>>57975402
+M44
+--- 57975555
+>>57975441
+I recognize the fact that there were tens of millions of mosins built over the course of the last literal hundred and thirty years, and that they used to be so cheap that you could mail General Mills 10 cereal box tops plus $8.95 shipping and handling and they'd ship you one, and that there are models that are postwar (and therefor do not have the same romantic associations with WWII that the 91/30 does, for example), but whenever I see something like this it still hurts my heart a little bit.
+
+I guess if you wanted to turn it into a deer rifle or a hog gun or whatever than yeah trimming weight by replacing the wood stock with polymer isn't a terrible idea, but honestly just leave the gun as-is, suck it up, and lug a couple extra pounds around with you.
+--- 57975761
+>>57975230
+I'd say yeah, as long as you reload.
+--- 57975965
+>>57975402
+Mausers run circles around Mosins. The only reason to buy the latter is if you're specifically collecting them, or for how cheap they are.
+These days they aren't even that much cheaper that a lot surplus Mausers, and the only cheap 7.62x54R may soon be gone, thanks to old surplus drying up and steel-case imports having an uncertain future.
+
+The only Mosin of even comparable quality to a Mauser is a Finnish one. Even then it's still a Mosin, with its clunky action, virtually useless safety and all.
+--- 57976049
+>>57975402
+I'd get the M44. I dont think M48s are worth that yet, I just bought this M48 about six months ago for $350. Mosins aren't high quality firearms, but they're just so much fun. 
+Also, surplus 8mm will beat your shoulder. Surplus 7.62x54R doesnt hardly kick at all.
+--- 57976150
+>>57975402
+Get the m48 instead of the M44.
+
+The fewer people that buy Mosins = the fewer people I have to compete with when buying ammo for my Mosins.
+--- 57976229
+>>57976049
+Forgot pic.
+>>57975402
+If accuracy is really important to you, or if you plan on target shooting, the m48 may be the better option. Mosins are very hit or miss (pun intended) when it comes to accuracy. Mosins are better plinkers, the ammo is still really cheap where I live.
+If your
+--- 57976255
+>>57976150
+I want to have all the guns from red orchestra tho
+--- 57976351
+What's the general going rate for a Type 38 Arisaka (mum intact)? I know I can browse listings, but you all know how skewed those can be.
+--- 57976354
+>>57939910
+We need to weird them out like Raifu threads.
+--- 57976421
+>>57976351
+Roughly $65 in bank bonds and a no eye-contact under table handy. That’s in my neck of the woods anyhow. Ymmv
+--- 57976621
+>>57976421
+>no eye-contact
+HAVE YOU NO HONOR?
+NO RESPECT?
+NO BEER?!?GYXGYK
+--- 57976838
+>>57975402
+I got a Syrian brand Yugo. 
+
+The Mauser will almost always be the better rifle compared to the Mosin, but never underestimate the fun of small carbine in bag cartridge.
+--- 57976918
+>>57976838
+small carbine in big cartridge*. Brain broked while typing.
+--- 57976957
+>>57943120
+I did a half wheel of my Mausers. If I did my full collection I would have to take a pic in groups or get really high above them.
+--- 57978487
+The Mosin Crate is unloading a bunch of CZ-70 pistols tomorrow. Worth it?
+--- 57978923
+>>57947509
+Dude just get it. The days of piss cheap milsurp are over. If you want the fun, save up and get it. Those m38s are pretty fun
+--- 57978952
+>>57956586
+You’re doing more of a service to preserving history by refinishing the gun and keeping it in good working order instead of letting it just rot away because “muh original condition.” I used to think similarly about keeping things original, but lately I just can’t be bothered to care. I’m more interested in making these old guns look good again instead of just fading away in a safe.
+--- 57979482
+>>57978952
+It would be grossly stupid to refinish the broom handle, right?
+The fire blue finish has mostly worn away but what’s left of the finish basically looks like a browning 
+It should be safe to oil and keep it as is, right?
+
+Are there even smiths who could do a proper rebluing that looks just like the OG?
+--- 57979503
+>>57943353
+None of the P8A1 imports have ever been in service.

k/57940478.txt

@@ -635,3 +635,123 @@ damn. rest in piss man
 >>57959346
 >the trickling noise with the faint voice of his mom talking in the background
 Fuck...
+--- 57970293
+My wife
+--- 57970560
+>>57966911
+I just cant shake the /r9k/ connection lmao
+--- 57970566
+EROTIC LEGS
+--- 57970652
+>>57970293
+How did you do that?
+--- 57970670
+>>57967546
+>Cyberpunk lore? 
+You mean the moon colony in Robert Heinlen's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress? 
+Yes. There is one.
+--- 57970762
+>>57970652
+Not telling
+--- 57970794
+>>57966911
+It's actually a pretty good HD / vehicle gun, it's by far the most compact a shotgun can get without going into SBS territory and gimping your velocity while doing so, along with the legal hassle. I can't understate how short the KSG is in actual use, from most passenger vehicles you can aim it unobstructed in a 180 degree field of fire. Even a shockwave held at mid-arms length actually protrudes further from the body than the muzzle of a shouldered KSG. Pair that with more than enough capacity to get through virtually any fight you'd reasonably encounter and there's actually an argument for it being superior than conventional manually operated shotguns. It is heavy and the action is rougher than your run of the mill rem 870 or mossberg 500/590, but that is definitely in the skill-issue category of problems. If you want something lighter (say, as a backpacking weapon or tertiary door-breaching tool) the KS7 has some merit as well.
+--- 57970815
+>>57970794
+Is it reliable enough that you'd trust your life to it in an HD situation though?
+--- 57970817
+>>57960843
+No...
+--- 57970845
+>>57947591
+https://youtu.be/ZdDHi5SSIlM [Embed]
+--- 57971117
+>>57970815
+Yeah, just rack it hard each time. There is a slight wall when coming back that tricks people into short stroking the weapon
+--- 57971149
+>>57970794
+Makes me wonder just how compact their sbs version feels
+--- 57971194
+>>57970815
+Yes unironically, with the caveat that you train and thoroughly test your HD ammo which you should be doing with any HD gun. The only malfunctions you get with it are going to be related to shortstroking and occasionally some manufacturer's loads wont want to eject cleanly, I think it's related to crimping and length of the spent shell. As for shortstroking, just don't try to run the gun faster than you can during range practice and you'll be fine. This is an issue on any manually operated shotgun but the KSG is particularly susceptable with the downside of malfunctions being more difficult to clear, but IMO the advantages make up for it.
+
+A lot of LelKek's firearms are perfectly fine, I think they get a bad rep from their wierd underbuilt folding 5.56 guns and really beat to shit examples of their pocket pistols (lotta those have been ran hard, unlubed, never cleaned, and end up in pawnshops for cheap and retards go full suprised-pikachu when their $150 PF9 on its 3rd owner that hasnt been serviced since 2008 isnt as reliable as a brand new LCP, when an LCP wouldnt fare any better in those circumstances)
+--- 57971216
+>>57970566
+God I love dolphin shorts so much.
+--- 57971685
+>>57968456
+Laser boats are fun ones
+--- 57971912
+>>57970762
+Come on anon, at least say how many tries it took.
+--- 57972042
+Is this salvageable? First gun ever didn't realize it was a little strange til I got home, bought an optical mount and it didn't fit right
+--- 57972079
+>>57972042
+Shit wrong thread my bad everyone
+--- 57972105
+>>57972079
+Not the first anon to do it and not that last. As for your optic rail? I honestly have no clue that thing looks way different then the one I had mounting points included
+--- 57972208
+>>57970817
+Alisa isn't a tomboy she's just a bitch.
+--- 57972237
+>>57971912
+Lost count, I kept going even though she was pregnant. I intend to raise an army of little Katysuhas
+--- 57973088
+test
+--- 57973093
+>>57959346
+Wtf? Why did he kill himself? He was super calm about it. Sweet fucking mary. This is horrible.
+--- 57974166
+>>57960843
+retard alert, Tomboys are a different thing entirely and theyre based. Modern day fags indoctrinate tomboys when they're in their teens and convince them to be fags like them instead of what they actually are.
+--- 57974206
+>>57974166
+Some people may think this is a joke or a meme, but I've seen it happen.
+>Knew a tomboy girl who was into robotics and other tech stuff and at one point she got convinced she was FtM
+>tfw me and the boys started giving her boyfriend a ton of shit about being gay since the girl he was dating was now a guy according to her
+t. zoomer
+--- 57975177
+>>57972902
+Cute. I love these two. Animated GuP goes wide on the cast but focusing on just a pair of characters has its advantages.
+--- 57975420
+>Turned down by another girl.
+--- 57976184
+>>57975420
+This isnt r9k anon
+--- 57976474
+Maybe I have my history wrong but I think she's Spanish!
+--- 57976488
+>>57975420
+this happened to me today 
+>>>/r9k/73090355
+--- 57976597
+>>57976488
+Sounds like the exact opposite happened to you.
+--- 57976655
+>>57950390
+Need more non-miltary or non-LE set artwork
+--- 57976730
+>>57976655
+>gun gyrau
+an ambitious crossover
+--- 57977667
+>>57959167
+>>57959346
+This is fucked up.
+--- 57977701
+>>57970293
+My wife and her adopted daughter
+--- 57978874
+>>57977701
+I'm gonna make sure she's constantly pregnant.
+--- 57979049
+>>57976655
+I like car pics, they're comfy
+--- 57979738
+I still refuse to believe tactical shotguns aren't useful for certain applications
+--- 57980010
+>>57973104
+kyoot bun, but Nipa a cuter

k/57946536.txt

@@ -808,3 +808,387 @@ The IWI TS-12 is kind of sort of a fit. It certainly looks the part. It's semi-a
 >>57957466
 >>57963487
 I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.
+--- 57969509
+>>57968039
+>3 tubes
+Ok now that's one step wackier than even the KSG and Neostead.
+And you're telling me they revolve? What? How are you supposed to hold that?
+--- 57969958
+>>57966381
+I wouldn’t have a problem if all their “mistakes” were goofy shit like this. Yes it’s practically impossible, but it could be cool. But when you couple this with the idiocy elsewhere it’s just dumb
+--- 57969972
+I think the worst depiction of firearms in media is probably the gun autist part of /k/. Y'all live in a fantasy bubble where guns aren't demonstrably niggering up your society while your own children have to go to school in maximum security prisons because of guns and your police executes people daily because of guns.
+--- 57969978
+>>57969972
+I think the Walking Dead is worse.
+--- 57969988
+>>57969972
+I don’t understand what compels a person like you to come to /k/.
+--- 57970000
+>>57962563
+Nigger I'm neither of these people but companies literally do this all the time. It's pretty fuckin' common to change a gun just enough to skirt legality while keeping it recognizable.
+--- 57970015
+>>57969972
+And what normalfag media contains /k/-tier gun autism?
+
+>>57969988
+Many of us don't live in Burgeristan and recognize your societal issues. This board was far better in its early years when it had minimal 'merikan gunpol discussion like we're currently engaging in.
+--- 57970054
+>>57969988
+There's the fucking biggest war since WW2 going on in Europe. Of course i will come to the warfare subreddit to discuss it.
+--- 57970082
+>>57954433
+lol I never paid attention to that
+--- 57970113
+>>57948123
+Are there silencers that literally just snap on like that?
+--- 57970135
+>>57957658
+I’ll be honest I only watched Narcos for the brown chicks, although I did give up two episodes into season three because of how incredibly shit it became.
+--- 57970137
+>>57970113
+Tri lugs sort of do.
+--- 57970143
+>>57970113
+>snap on
+It was screwed on. Typical threaded suppressor attachment.
+The animation is just shortened because old games didn't waste time on useless bullshit that is detrimental to fast-paced gameplay.
+--- 57970171
+>>57946536 (OP)
+that guy was so cool
+--- 57970180
+>>57970015
+It's not a gun problem you stupid Euronigger
+--- 57970212
+>>57963945
+Bulgarians make movies? Any good recommendations?
+--- 57970342
+>>57946536 (OP)
+Dis shit here
+--- 57970350
+>>57970342
+forgot link
+https://youtu.be/vZ3Co9z30Qw [Embed]
+--- 57970365
+>>57970350
+I can't even tell anymore if this is some legit old home video or a 2020s "backrooms aesthetic" cg render.
+--- 57970385
+>>57970365
+Haha legit oldfag shit, the Ren and Stimpy shirts should be a dead giveaway to it's authenticity.
+--- 57970678
+>>57946536 (OP)
+--- 57970691
+>>57970212
+not sure about Bulgarian made ones, but the English language ones made IN Bulgaria do so because it's very cheap. and as a result they're mostly bad.
+--- 57970696
+>>57954433
+yeah man, that's how you start the engine on these gas operated guns.
+--- 57970726
+>>57946536 (OP)
+--- 57970739
+>>57946536 (OP)
+.
+--- 57970753
+No one has brought up red dead redemption. They said fuck any nuance that would come with reloading black powder guns. I think you can reload the lemat in like 10 seconds. They missed their chance imo.
+--- 57970844
+>>57961305
+this, heapum based
+
+>>57957670
+AWBs are over
+the average goy doesn't trust the gov enough to comply, lib politicians might want to ban guns but they're not going to do things that make them lose votes. post bruen essentially all gun laws are dead on appeal anyway, it's a matter of time until they're all swept away
+--- 57970931
+>>57964199
+r/whooosh
+--- 57970997
+>>57963192
+that classification is based mainly on caliber and method of operation rather than its use relative to the operator
+like an 8 foot tall space marine might be able to use a heavy machine gun like an assault rifle, but it's still a heavy machine gun
+--- 57971187
+>>57970180
+And, obviously, the best solution to niggers is giving them easier access to guns, which in turns leads to increased militarization of police in an ever-escalating arms race. All the while being a society so rotten at its core that kids frequently shoot up schools, which is again made more commonplace by your awfully immature gun culture.
+
+Your gun problems are complex societal issues with no easily applicable real-world fix. They're beyond the preschool level "muh guns" vs "muh niggers" debate framework you want to apply here. But the thing is, Burgeristan manages to be the worst nation in the entire civilized world when it comes to this. And your gunpol bickering on the topic (from both sides) is absolutely insufferable and doesn't belong on /k/. You guys have a lot of growing up to do as a people.
+
+
+I live in a nation with very high level of gun ownership on a global scale. We have sane gun laws and healthy gun culture that doesn't involve the general public hating the police for their awful training and triggerhappy tendencies. I can buy spooky restricted items like silencers off the shelf. There's barely any gun violence--We could do per-capita comparisons with your statistics sans the dindus and the numbers would still look significantly worse for you.
+So there's your answer to how a /k/ oldfag could dare to acknowledge Burgeristan's gun problems and be tired of their gunpol offtopic crap.
+--- 57971367
+>>57957679
+Ah yes the ol' air-cooled water-cooled mag-fed hand-cranked machinegun. Soon as I saw this POS i knew the game would only be good for coom mods
+--- 57971413
+>>57971187
+>I live in a nation with
+ALL euro posts say this, and never state what country they live in. You’re just a larping bongistani, you don’t have gun rights and your country is disgusting.
+--- 57971449
+>>57971187
+Areas with high gun ownership and high white population do not have gun violence issues. Areas with high nigger density, no matter gun restrictions, have gun violence issues. You Eurofags love to type up essays to sound smart but it's that easy.
+>My house is getting the insulation chewed up by rats!
+>ERM, ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT JUST THE FAULT OF THE RATS. YOUR HOUSE IS BUILT IN AN INCORRECT FASHION AND THE INSULATION IN THE WALLS BEING EATEN IS BOT THE FAULT OF THE RATS EATING, BUT YOUR FAULT BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THE HOUSE THAT HAS INSULATION FOR RATS TO EAT!!!!
+This is what you sound like.
+--- 57971459
+>>57961237
+look up "cum town steven seagal" on YT
+--- 57971614
+>>57970844
+bruh we literally just had the entire country shut down for a year and inject themselves with mystery dna juice based on nothing except dog-like obedience to zog and the media. People might not comply but eventually a slow boil AWB will work. Eliminating places to shoot, cheap ammo, and sport shooting culture is much more dangerous than some arbitrary ban. If you can't pass the hobby to your kids because you don't want to risk getting arrested the hobby dies. 
+>>57971187
+>it's another eurofag who thinks he can tame the niggers
+--- 57971655
+>>57971614
+>bruh we literally just had the entire country shut down for a year and inject themselves with mystery dna juice
+lib zones are not the entire country, nobody here locked down and my state is reasonably blue
+>slow boil AWB will work
+new gun laws have to pass the new constitutionality test to be valid. ATF hasn't even been prosecuting NFA cases lately because it's on shaky ground constitutionally and won't stand up on appeal. it's LITERALLY over for grabbers. take that blackpill out of your mouth
+--- 57971769
+>>57971655
+>it's LITERALLY over for grabbers
+Except for the states where they’ve succeeded.
+--- 57971785
+>>57971769
+like where? every cuck state is currently getting sharted on by rich 2A organizations in the courts
+--- 57971846
+>>57971655
+The compliance rate for the clot shot is over 80%.
+>muh constitution
+are you insane or trolling?
+>NFA not enforced 
+what? LOL
+>>57971785
+WA
+--- 57971927
+>>57971614
+>it's another eurofag who thinks he can tame the niggers
+Give him a break, trying to tame niggers is our second favorite passtime, after bonking eachother every 30-50 years or so.
+--- 57971976
+>>57971846
+>The compliance rate for the clot shot is over 80%.
+According to whom?
+>>NFA not enforced 
+>what? LOL
+Yes, I know years of "FED GLOWIE GLOWING GLOWNIGGER" posts have rotted your brain but believe it or not federal prosecutors do actually perform risk assessments and are right now declining to prosecute NFA cases due to bruen and the possibility that bubba gets a FPC law squad to gank the NFA based on bruen's new standard
+>WA
+A braindead legislature passing braindead legislation is nothing new. It will be struck down and many of them have already acknowledged this. It's a cope bill just like NJ tried
+>t. NJ
+--- 57972124
+>>57960884
+--- 57972163
+>>57971976
+https://www.ammoland.com/2023/04/justin-ervin-and-matthew-hoover-crs-firearms-found-guilty-in-the-autokey-card-case/
+
+>Mr. Hoover was found guilty of five of the eight charges, including four charges of transferring machineguns and one charge of conspiracy.
+
+Hoover was remanded into custody because the federal prosecutor stated she felt personally “threatened” by Mr. Hoover. Ervin has been in federal custody for the last two years and will remain in custody.
+
+The men will be held until sentencing on July 31, 2023.
+
+Cool you should go tell these guys, I'm sure come july they'll just decide to let em out right?
+--- 57972196
+>>57972163
+>transferring
+nta but they got him for selling shit over state lines, they'll get off on appeal but in any case this is more severe to them than bubba owning an sbr
+--- 57972209
+>>57972163
+see
+>>57972196
+iirc this trial started before bruen
+--- 57972424
+>>57971187
+>us enlightened euros
+What country? You’re either a bong, which are basically the niggers of Europe, or you’re a country with no niggers, and thus crime is irrelevant.
+--- 57972458
+>>57972163
+>Posts case from 2 years ago
+Got any within the relevant time frame though?
+--- 57972600
+>>57972424
+>country with no niggers
+Every country has niggers anon. For it is not the race that makes the nigger, but the behavior. If not for blacks in the US hillbillies would be the niggers.
+--- 57972632
+This counts
+lmao
+--- 57972645
+>>57966381
+Dropping this show from my watch schedule in its second season was a very good decision. IN case you're wondering how something like this gets made, the majority of the people I've meet who work in TV and movies are you-need-a-helmet retarded.
+--- 57972650
+>>57972424
+There's plenty of niggers in Europe, we just call them "russians"
+--- 57972662
+>>57969972
+>guns aren't demonstrably niggering up your society
+Niggers are.
+--- 57972695
+>>57961040
+>bootlicking
+I haven't touched the game since launch. I just despise people who have an IQ below 100 such as yourself and your gay retard boyfriend you're so eager to defend. Killl yourself.
+--- 57972711
+>>57972650
+>There's plenty of niggers in Europe, we just call them "russians"
+This is pure cuckolding at its finest. You ignore actual niggers in your countries to call fellow whites the word.
+--- 57972755
+>>57962930
+>He can't one credit at Time Crisis
+--- 57972770
+>>57966367
+How did no one on set go you know this is a big fucking gun wouldn't it tear through Rick?
+--- 57972779
+>>57972711
+I dont mind russians when they stay in their cunt, but any imigrant in europe form other euro cunt is the biggest retard, its always the case no matter from which country he is, it just happens that russians are bigest retards of them all. I dont expect burger to understand it, cos your country was created by retard migrants, for retard migrants and your nationality and ethnics doesnt go beyon im burger or muh skin color . We should all agree to put signs at borders that we are full and fuck off.
+--- 57972798
+>>57970739
+What are they even doing?
+--- 57972829
+>>57970000
+I'm pretty sure 'changing names/likeness to skirt copyright' is dev fiat, as in, bossman comes in, sees something he recognizes and says 'yeah we should change that'
+
+Squad has the full and correct likeness and trademarked names on every one of it's firearms.
+--- 57972870
+>>57972711
+>Russians
+>White
+--- 57972887
+>>57970000
+Checked
+--- 57972962
+>>57972711
+>t. Burger who's never met a single R*ssian in his entire life
+--- 57972972
+>>57972650
+This is an insult to niggers
+--- 57973081
+>>57972972
+Per capita, russia has less violent crimes than black inner cities.
+--- 57973139
+>>57973081
+Per capita, some russian oblasts have had much higher murder rates than Detroit and Chicago.
+Supposedly the rate of violent crime has gone down since the peak in the early 00s, but the russians are probably just lying and fudging the numbers like they do with everything else.
+--- 57973147
+>>57971785
+The supreme fucking court just upheld Illinois and Delaware’s ban. There are ten states with AWB, and several states where you effectively can’t carry a gun.
+--- 57973189
+>>57971785
+the 10 states that now have AWB including Washington and soon to be Oregon. Where places like NY and CT it costs hundreds if not a thousand dollars to carry concealed, where states still have restrictions on NFA items like suppressors (Illinois) and places like Florida that have weird laws regarding open carry and fishing and other weirdness. You're not as free as you think.
+--- 57973198
+>>57973081
+You're a worthless nigger.
+--- 57973275
+>>57973198
+>11.3 murders per 100,000
+These are baby numbers. I specified US blacks for a reason. St. Louis has a 64 per 100,000 murder rate. US nigger cities are many times more dangerous than russia.
+--- 57973445
+>>57973275
+There are worse places in r*ssia as well, those are just the statistical averages. Which should be fucking obvious. And that average paints a really dark picture.
+
+You simply aren't seeing the big picture. Niggers are merely a domestic nuisance.
+When's the last time a nigger city started a war? Tried communism? Fucked up entire eastern half of a continent? Killed so many of their own in famines through sheer incompetence that Nazis gassing jews look like inefficient amateurs in comparison?
+--- 57973795
+>>57973147
+>The supreme fucking court
+The way you said this makes me think you think it was scotus, they were the state supreme courts and are still being violently litigated against
+>>57973189
+It's been less than a year since Bruen, these things take time to work out in court. It'll come out in the wash innit
+--- 57973868
+>>57954550
+More than 60% of gun crimes are comités with handguns, 1-2% are committed with assault rifles.
+--- 57973893
+>>57964083
+What about Obsidian?
+--- 57973977
+>>57973795
+>Bruen Bruen Bruen
+Do you all not realize that it's over? the rule of law does not apply to those who are part of a certain political party anymore. They just threw a guy in prison for making cutouts of a lightning link that the ATF itself even said was kosher just a year ago. It's over. I mean literally. We got like 10 years (if that) before this country goes to complete FUBAR.
+--- 57974002
+>>57973977
+>noooo you MUST be blackpilled
+I have literally never complied with any law i personally disagree with, Bruen means the law is on my side. Simple as, end of. I accept the ATF's concession and they tongue my anus. Copy?
+--- 57974574
+>warfare subreddit
+>posting in a media thread
+
+Whoever beat the fuck out of you with the autism stick must be really tired
+--- 57974685
+>>57971367
+I downloaded 10 gigs of gun mods. I liked wandering around the Commonwealth with an M14
+--- 57975075
+>>57973868
+>assault rifles.
+I haven’t heard of an assault rifle being used in a crime since the 90s. ARs are not assault rifles.
+--- 57975298
+>>57973977
+>It's over.
+I'm so demorgalized now. U win. I give up, better sell my guns while the selling is good.
+--- 57975593
+>>57975298
+>demoralize gun owner into selling his guns
+>he sells them to a black
+>black person kills 15 blacks with the guns he bought
+Bravo, liberals.
+--- 57975621
+>>57975075
+That depends, do illegal wars started over lies count as "crimes"?
+
+If so, it has happened quite a bit since the 90s.
+--- 57975843
+>>57971187
+anon.
+the last time we did give niggers free access to guns they formed the black panthers.
+when we sought to take guns away they became worse.
+the reason was because at that point the impact of financially rewarding niggers from growing up with one parent in the house hit
+--- 57977850
+>>57971187
+>Smug Europoor
+>Defends Niggers while never having to interact with one
+Like clockwork
+--- 57978163
+what the fuck was wrong with cod from like 2013-2018 with it departing from fun hollywood-ish sound design to utter garbage 
+>>57972829
+it's moreo trademarking than copyright, which is similar, but you can depict a 1:1 SCAR, FAL or G3 but having things like rollmarks or naming could likely result in issues with the company. lately though it's been due to california law and 'advertising to minors' 
+>57973977
+ur right it's all over, it's never even began to begin with I better throw away all my guns and ride with biden straight into the goddamn sun. I won't do shit, democrats are gonna win and rule for 10 billion years with an army of loyal darkies and the only thing I can do as a somewhat white man is to lie down and take it in the ass
+--- 57978287
+>>57970739
+The chad group flag
+--- 57978787
+>>57972124
+It's like Bethesda is still stuck in the early 2000s, when nobody knew how guns worked.
+--- 57978892
+>>57978287
+based
+--- 57979346
+>>57963426
+A lot of people on here don't understand that this scene is meant to be comedic.
+--- 57979355
+>>57955216
+Also in breaking bad. A little mexican kid shoots one of the drug dealers with it.
+--- 57979381
+>>57957540
+They fired everyone involved with that after the first season.
+--- 57979455
+>>57957540
+success. the second someone figured out that yes, the walking dead will be mighty profitable, the big wigs took over with the real money. and by real money, i mean, real savings.
+its not even the wrong decision. that shits 11 seasons long with 3 fucking spin offs, videogames (infact, the walking dead vr game is supposed to be pretty decent for corperate shovelware, oddly. guess the corpos didnt know what to do with it and said "go wild, heres a tiny budget"). yadda yadda. they cut the costly armorer at season 2 and it lasted 9 more after that.
+--- 57979489
+>>57979455
+and even with a clearly incompetent armorer, no one got shot
+--- 57979739
+>>57962997
+There is nothing in the movie to suggest that it's just headcanon that happens to make sense. It very well could have been them being retarded. They had plenty of other gun fuckups in both movies.
+--- 57980421
+>>57953928
+>>57953947
+The fuck is this AI generated gun?
+--- 57980438
+>>57980421
+things got more screen credits then your mum on pornhub, anon
+--- 57980495
+>>57973198
+>co-founder of Google
+>using google to justify opinion
+I mean you are not wrong but are you really so insecure in your opinion that you need to use google of all things to validate yourself?
+--- 57980506
+>>57980438
+>watching pornhub
+ok kike
+--- 57980509
+>>57980506
+hey man, your moms producers, not mine. i didnt upload them.

k/57947317.txt

@@ -485,3 +485,86 @@ Uh...no. It was only the case because devs were lazy faggots. I hate when people
 --- 57968144
 >>57947317 (OP)
 The answer to getting an actually competent enemy is just ace combat'ing the shit and creating a new world where not-ruskies are actually a threat or not-chinks are also a threat and war with not-america or not-europe happens
+--- 57970301
+>>57963082
+Hm. Is the USA the same country as in 1800?
+--- 57970327
+>>57950456
+Yes, and it did not make it less realistic. (In the sense that jumping 100 meters is as realistic as 1000).
+--- 57970372
+>>57968144
+If you want realism and strong enemies, why make the game involving the US? Why not a game about some future African war?
+--- 57970548
+>>57952735
+>So, when are we going to Moscow?
+>Not soon enough, man. But I know we're gonna burn it to the ground when we get there
+--- 57970638
+>>57970372
+Hell give me a game about the Congo Wars
+--- 57971377
+>>57970372
+If someone wants to see B2s, carrier-launched F-14s, and Raptors doing cool things, then bringing in the USA/Fantasy USA is pretty much the only way it can happen.
+--- 57971681
+>>57962915
+US pressing its throbbing BWC into the Soviet Union’s manicured and perfect Slavic pussy up to the base as she moans “breed me,” thus filling it with righteous American cum.
+--- 57973814
+>>57967312
+It is a video game son.
+--- 57975000
+>>57971681
+Shut tf up anon
+--- 57975745
+>>57957836
+Flew right over your head it seems
+--- 57975853
+What are some good excuses for battles in the USA?
+
+I want more games where I have to fight in the American suburban hellhole
+--- 57976017
+>>57975853
+Ready or Not desu senpai
+--- 57977024
+>>57947317 (OP)
+Damn this really a fucking zoomer space now
+--- 57977293
+>>57952735
+that handguard is still on sale for, like, $400
+--- 57977334
+Why is the Modern Warfare reboot feel so retarded compared to the classic one.
+--- 57977349
+>>57961461
+You didn't know it was made by a company called Heckler & Koch?
+--- 57977359
+>>57977334
+They should have called it Call of Duty: Stupid Warfare
+--- 57977373
+>>57947317 (OP)
+Call of doge sucks
+This and STALKER were much nicer
+--- 57977525
+>>57975000
+Anon, you know you want to see the US put the cute and petite Slavic USSR in a deep mating press. Don't lie to yourself.
+--- 57977661
+>>57977373
+Too bad there wasn't any easy way to add the gatcha & progression bullshit that all of these games need to be successful nowadays
+--- 57977696
+>>57948608
+Why are you gey?
+--- 57979155
+>>57947801
+>The Chad Rorke VS the virgin ghosts
+Rorke was so cool and badass
+I also liked Hesh, the brother of logan but the rest of the ghost team was gay AF with their gay skull mask
+--- 57979972
+>>57977525
+Stop it
+--- 57980017
+>>57977525
+Too bad it aint slavs that will be giving your yanke shithole a proper regime change, they deserve retribution against your shithole, but asiatic Changs with a proper chip on their shoulders.
+
+Your yankee anglo/latino/semitic asses will kneel to China.
+--- 57980345
+>>57975853
+Free masonic/semitic dictatorship and it's acronym agencies that illegally distribute drugs;all over the world, harbor international criminals and murderers, traffic children as sex slaves, list goes on and on, too many to name.
+
+yankeland needs a total regime change, no buts about it.

k/57947492.txt

@@ -726,3 +726,194 @@ Establishing facts that are obvious to anyone that existed during that time peri
 >>57968447
 That's the newest coping strategy of rabid vaxxies, just denying the thruth until the media tells them what to believe.
 I bet he already convinced himself that climate change is responsible for all the new heart attacks, rising aids rates and turbo cancer in young people.
+--- 57968699
+If you are vaccinated, your opinion is worthless. You bend down to lick the boot, no one can ever take you serious. Your pathetic caving in with just some external pressure serves as proof that you are no man, only a whimpering cripple who will do anything to satisfy big daddy government. Any excuses you make just prove my point that you're a weak willed faggot who is too afraid of the world to stand his ground.
+--- 57968721
+>>57947706
+Why are they so obsessed with the UN when it is a tool of US foreign policy? It is just a method of giving the US hegemony a veneer of of democratic support.
+Like nigga, bubba isn't going to be shooting blue helmets in the Appalachian mountains. Bubba *is* the blue helmet getting shot at in the afghan mountains.
+--- 57968797
+>>57959519
+Drones can even be operated over the internet, allowing them to be controlled from any point on the planet given an internet connection. This allows them to travel long distances on long missions. The main weakness is that they can be taken down with small arms fire or even captured and used against you. Given this fact, and given the fact that munitions can cost more than the quadrotor itself, I'd say that they are most useful as very inexpensive guided missiles. Once one is fired and destroyed, the operator can activate another, and a team of drone operators can direct a swarm attack. You mention the security potential of civilians with drones, but honestly the main potential is scaled up for conventional war. This is why I'd reason that the US military is studying these drone swarm concepts.
+--- 57968812
+>>57968797
+Electrical jamming equipment also takes down drones, but if traveling at sufficient velocity, it may still reach its target. As with an actual missile, arming for impact would be ideal. Of course it can drop grenades and mortar shells as well, but as a single-use guided missile it's a very innovative weapon for war. Some other user mentioned that some can carry like 20 pounds, which would be a very sizeable payload for armor and infantry as a sort of robotic artillery.
+--- 57969753
+probably a way to access or disable any type of computer/electronics, back doors and all that
+--- 57969865
+>>57963359
+>submarine wakes look like from space.
+Hey I remember those posts
+--- 57970193
+>>57968797
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFLzO_5UFwE [Embed]
+this shit was 6 years ago. I wonder what they're cooking up now.
+--- 57970274
+>>57947915
+I read the entire thing every time.
+--- 57970278
+>>57947492 (OP)
+Are you asking for leaking documents also of you do talk about it wont you get sent to prison?
+--- 57970393
+>>57947492 (OP)
+augmentation, genetic or mechanical
+--- 57970402
+>>57967235
+Yes.
+--- 57970462
+>>57958080
+/sci/ are unironically the biggest redditoid brainlets on 4chan. I've had better scientific discussions on /x/
+--- 57970529
+>>57968535
+he's just a disingenuous vaxxie coper, not worth engaging with
+--- 57970569
+>>57950356
+Look up brief cam. That shit is just going commercial but it’s been in the government hands at least since the boston bombings
+--- 57971378
+>>57970278
+I don't think blue-skying on /k/ counts as direct solicitation.
+>Hello, comrade American, do you happen to have classified documents on ze classified testing at your Dugway in American Ootah you could send me? Plz comrade, do the needful and send document. Thanks, your American comrade in freedom eagles, Ivan."
+--- 57971659
+>>57971378
+You never know. Some kid in the 70s called up dupont asking how to make a nuclear bomb and they obliged. All someone might need to do is find the DoEs number and get lucky.
+--- 57971747
+It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that telekinesis and telepathy turned out to be viable fields of science with actual military applications.
+--- 57971790
+Does anyone remember a series of threads a few years ago revolving around a female Air Force Colonel who had been relieved from command after allegations of misconduct and toxicity? The threads had people coming out of the woodwork to claim she was involved in some kind of SAP focusing on literal brainwashing and mind reprogramming. It was wild stuff but no one could quite corroborate anything for sure.
+--- 57971860
+>>57947736
+Shittier and smaller is an innovation
+Look at the small diameter bombs
+--- 57971861
+>>57963124
+Why not use plasma in rockets like Panzerfaust used metal to melt the armour
+--- 57972127
+>>57971659
+That makes literally zero sense considering DuPont might make only a few of the components that goes into a nuclear weapon.
+>Hey DuPont, high school kid here...I would like to make a nuclear weapon
+>Hey, high school kid, no problem! Let me just contact a bunch of Sigma clearance guys at 3+ national labs to see if they can smuggle the requested documents out of the SCIF facility where they are stored
+>Gee whiz, thanks DuPont!
+--- 57972164
+>>57958306
+They will when it's the 51st state
+--- 57972181
+>>57971659
+Well, turns out we are both partially right. DuPont did indeed give him some weapons-related information on general composition of the explosive lenses and the rest he gleaned from publicly available information from the Library of Congress.
+https://www.iflscience.com/the-fbi-once-confiscated-a-students-paper-for-designing-a-nuclear-bomb-62282
+--- 57972214
+>>57972127
+It wasn't quite like that, he was trying to design a nuclear bomb using public information but he couldn't figure out how the explosives worked, so he called Dupont and explained his problem, and they sent him the relevant information.
+
+You can look up the story, John Aristotle Philips.
+--- 57972324
+>>57957026
+This is probably sci-fi bullshit but honestly the idea of "weird-looking but mostly friendly lizard aliens who have strange burial customs" is way more interesting than any sort of generic evil aliens.
+
+Your lizardbro is actually fun to talk to, but his planet kinda sucks ass and when Johnson died they very respectfully and ritually cut his corpse into one-centimeter cubes. I like it.
+--- 57972366
+>>57972181
+the main takeaway from this and that time they hired a couple of university students to design a nuclear bomb with public info and it took them like a week is nuclear bombs aren't actually that complex
+--- 57972471
+I've heard of a couple closed-audience advertisements for vaguely-described TDYs with very strange yet very strict requirements. Something like "must be practicing member of Abrahamic faith, married, or single and currently not sexually active, type O or AB blood only, willing to perform complex and sensitive missions in austere environments, can obtain TS/SCI clearance and pass a lifestyle polygraph." Wonder what it was all about.
+--- 57972492
+>>57972471
+Actors for films about Earth cultures produced by aliens.
+
+This isn't even a joke, the aliens we are in contact with have incredibly strict laws about "false representation" of a non-member species, which leads to really stupid shit like "you cannot play a religious character without actually practicing all tenants of that religion."
+--- 57972494
+>>57947492 (OP)
+>What experimental weapons (aircraft or otherwise) do you think the us or it's "near peers" are currently secretly using or working on? 
+
+energy based weapons, sonic weapons, satellite-based weapons, cloning, partial or complete weather control, gene enhancements, practical nanomachine applications, gene/race specific bioweapons or bioweapons in general, subliminal messaging, functional cloaking tech, more practical powered armor or exosuits, combat capable fully autonomous fighters/drones/robots, internet/cyberwarfare weapons, possible reverse engineered alien tech
+--- 57972506
+>>57972324
+>>57972492
+These Planet Dirt lizard people are sounding more interesting with everything I hear. Wonder if interplanetary Internet will ever be a thing?
+--- 57972551
+>>57972214
+I posted the link, fren. He also was a Stanford physics student.
+>>57972366
+Designing a single stage implosion device is light-years different than designing a three stage, gas boosted nuclear weapon (or even solid hydride two-stager). Modern weapons designs would be even harder to replicate, especially when you've got asymmetrical pit designs and plutonium masses (((allegedly))) well under known minimum mass requirements for criticality.
+--- 57972583
+>>57972506
+It's funny you should mention that. There is a very interesting old story from nasaspaceflightforums (I think) that hints strongly that data from one of the rovers was being relayed from the Mars orbital satellite relay WAY faster than what could be achieved through standard means. The (((story))) strongly hints that there was some entanglement-based information relay that was feeding the data back to NASA. Pretty sure you can still find the link on ATS, as that's where I found it. Fuck if I can't find it now for the life of me.
+--- 57972616
+>>57972492
+Also, this brings up an interesting question. Has any of these supposed off-world colonists tried proselyting to the lizard people? I wonder how that played out, if so.
+--- 57972730
+>>57972583
+FTL communication is actually pretty easy, but due to a quirk it only works over long distances (IE, useful for Earth-to-mars, not super useful for local communications).
+
+Other species set up big relays so you can basically zig-zag things back to get communication done, but we don't have the power to do that yet.
+--- 57973270
+>>57972730
+This is bullshit but I believe it.
+--- 57973972
+>>57972551
+...not really. all you need is a decent model for shockwaves in fluid dynamic simulation and a detailed set of material properties for your candidate device's components and you've got what you need to design whatever pit you want
+
+pit mass is irrelevant to criticality at sufficient densities; it's really only relevant to the energy of the primary, and you only need enough energy from the primary to initiate the secondary in a two-stage device.
+
+personally i'm more interested in... unconventional third stages driven by conventional two-stage devices. atoms accelerated well past thermal velocities at each other have the potential to do interesting things.
+
+please hire me, DoE
+
+>>57972492
+it's 'tenets', tenants are residents of something.
+
+and my main takeaway from laws like that, suspending my disbelief, is a bit of disappointment that alien philosophy isn't much different from some of our most flawed philosophical models, given that they've codified the semantically fraught standard of "false representation" into law. please tell me my space lizardbros are not silenced and controlled by an interstellar ministry of truth and that some degree of intentionality and disingenuousness to accused dishonesty is required for conviction in space court
+--- 57974403
+>>57973972
+The law only applies to non-member species (IE, species that are not official members of the solar community, which we aren't because we haven't hit certain technological milestones) and is mostly intended to prevent fabrication of culture. It was described to me as ensuring that we get to introduce ourselves to the galactic community instead of having somebody else do it for us, and possibly do it wrong.
+
+The law was originally passed after an incident where it turned out that an extremely popular and influential media series - something like "The Sopranos" - claimed that it was dramatizing political events on a planet, but was actually wholesale making shit up. The specific example I was given was basically this:
+
+>Planet's parliament decides to get rid of a leader
+>As part of the process, after she left the chamber, each member of the parliament got up and tapped a mallet on her now-empty chair for some ceremonial reason
+>Producers think this is boring
+>They instead have the parliament tie her up and beat her to death with hammers in their show
+
+They did a lot of this shit and basically gave these guys a reputation as like even crazier klingons when they weren't that at all. So they passed a pretty strict law that applies specifically to non-member species, but since we're technically not a member species yet, it does apply to us.
+
+We're also the only non-member species in regular contact with these guys, though, so I think it's really just them covering their asses. I can't blame them, though, Earth is in a super unique situation and from what I've seen it looks like it's generally pretty messy.
+--- 57976764
+>>57974403
+producer induced drama in "reality" media doesn't sound very alien
+
+whoever allowed the aliums to stagnate their creative industries into History channel level bullshittery should be beaten to death with hammers
+--- 57977214
+>>57973972
+In so far as a a student running nuclear weapons hydronamic shock simulations, I imagine that would be frowned upon by the faculty. If there was even a computer cluster capable of handling them. Material properties for your candidate device components would be difficult as well, given that the interstage components and even primary plutonium alloys are highly classified. Pit mass is also non-trivial, as it is a primary component of weapon miniaturization. If you mean nuclear isomers, that would be more applicable to the primary or interstage versus the end of the second/third stage.
+>>57974403
+Quit being a faggot. We are talking about real shit.
+--- 57977713
+>>57977214
+the material properties are a prerequisite for the simulations, though if you constrain the geometry at the design stage you can cut down on necessary processing power significantly. keep in mind the computing power available to the original designers - the F-117 looks like that because of software polygon limitations and that was in the fucking 80s
+
+and i'm not talking about obtaining classified information, i'm talking about... arriving at classified information independently by applying the constants and properties at play to achieve the desired nuclear effects.
+
+miniaturization is for scaling, and not the kind of thing worth worrying about for the nuclear home gamer trying to get the DoE to hire him :P
+
+maybe i should try applying before i build any nuclear wessels, but then i can't put it on my resume. it's a struggle, man.
+
+oh and i wasn't talking about isomers, though a metastable isomer tamper might be fun
+--- 57979316
+All right. I have to be vague here. A relative of mine, an engineer, has been all over the country working on dig projects. Top secret huge scale shit. If you live in an area where unusual "booms" occur during the daylight hours, usually early morning to noon, they are digging, building facilities. Why, doesn't know. But it's happening all over the U.S., Canada and Mexico.
+--- 57979331
+>>57947543
+its called being based ok
+--- 57979493
+>>57979316
+they're supposed to be digging a gigantic sewer system underneath Indianapolis. it's been in progress for several years, I know people who've worked on it
+--- 57979496
+>>57963090
+huh funny but what you (in very layman terms) describe here is cavity quantum electrodynamics (cQED) i worked on that in my MSc. Cool to know its links are being worked out and it’s actually useful. I wonder how youre solving photon loss and keeping Q high enough in the cavities (not to mention keeping all that consistent chip to chip)
+--- 57979680
+>>57979316
+Go on...recent strange booms happen here a lot. Neighborhood online forums (nextdoor etc) complaining of them constantly. Nobody seems to know what’s going on. No evidence of large scale digging.
+--- 57980255
+>>57979680
+You wouldn't see the digging work - the entry sites look like fresh empty neighborhoods of mcmansions. Much of the debris is compressed and used in construction,and what is removed overland is done through large vehicles or used in the "foundation" earth of the mcmansion builds.
+--- 57980350
+>>57963090
+Thanks man

k/57947588.txt

@@ -594,3 +594,162 @@ It’s about even on making retarded vaguely close approximations
 >>57967995
 >>57968372
 Best sawed off I’ve gotten but it’s mostly just cuz it’s cut off
+--- 57970390
+>>57957787
+Not my proudest fap.
+--- 57970425
+>>57968013
+This isn't even the best example. I can tell you right from looking at this, MJv1 was unbelievably shit and this is one of the best images I've seen it produce. You're usually lucky to get something that has the same texture as what you want. It's often frightening and unpleasant to look at its output. Faces are relatively easy to make; you can do them with GANs. More complex outputs that are very novel make for better tests of capability.
+--- 57970439
+>>57947767
+lmao
+--- 57971173
+>>57947678
+She looks like that h3h3 guys wife lol
+--- 57972562
+Gifs are fun but they take forever to load
+--- 57973658
+>>57967867
+Literally the only people against AI art are assmad gunless commies.
+--- 57973911
+>>57948835
+What is WO?
+--- 57973946
+>>57948563
+kek
+--- 57974001
+>>57951903
+Actually snorted
+--- 57974117
+>>57951173
+> Weird how the anime filters make less retarded guns
+The amount of knockoff manga and anime and niche anime porn commissions is probably at a 100:1 ratio compared to the number of people training realistic images
+--- 57974235
+>>57958685
+Fav game of 2023.
+--- 57974441
+>>57957931
+Does it think algebraically? Can you write things out as a formula? Like if you do it formulaically from foreground to background with parentheses and proper PEMDAS order of operations does it understand it better? 
+
+Like I’ve tried going nuts with writing things out in terms of my retard understanding of coding and my undergrad blow off classes understanding of “the language of math” and stuff, but it seems like no matter what you do the first like 4 sentences or comma’d prompts are the most important. 
+
+Have any of the ai schweinestallen released like ideal order of operations or formatting guides or anything?
+--- 57976128
+>>57967867
+Post research
+--- 57976344
+>>57957734
+Hands in that image are still laughable dogshit if you've actually seen human hands before
+--- 57976367
+ITT: Nightmare fuel
+--- 57976405
+>>57976344
+How often do you actually look at hands when you’re glancing at a picture? 
+
+Also it’s the whole relativity thing and the whole “technology is advancing exponentially” thing. Hands are like 500% better than they were 6 months ago or whatever. And this rate will persist longer than humanity does. 
+
+UAPs are “detritus from a coming war”. They have both always been here and they’ve always been piloted by a self-aware AI that is currently en utero. But that’s beside the point. We all suffocate before that’s relevant.
+--- 57976518
+>>57947588 (OP)
+someone gimme sauce on this AI generator all the ones I'm finding make you sign up with goybook
+--- 57976532
+>>57976344
+Its an exponential improvement within a matter of months, and that's without the cooler tricks like inpainting or Controlnet.
+--- 57976535
+>>57948143
+The Chinese Room argument is flawed and misconstrued
+
+Also Searle is a hack
+--- 57976622
+>>57976518
+I don’t want to shill but mage.space with a subscription combined with not being a prevert with illegal paraphilias has basically turned into my new vidya distraction. 
+
+Granted I was already an artfag and movie production fag but I foresee a near future where like ai generated porn that pulls from real sources while maintaining the parameters of the prompt taking over everything. I don’t see this as something that can be stopped other than short term virtue signaling. The future is a reality where the second you become famous millions of people are making indiscernibly real sex-tapes with you.
+
+The ideal future is one where production isn’t criminalized but illegal distribution is. If people trying to fuck Jennifer Aniston from season 2 of Friends that should be cool. If they trying to pimp her out that should probably be not cool. 
+
+Alternatively Teddy K did nothing wrong and we should return to monke idk
+--- 57976660
+>>57976622
+i probably would, actually
+--- 57976776
+Without color coating things or trying to make things sound nice. I’ve generated 45k images in 6 weeks and I can’t post 44k of them on a blue board. 
+
+I put on porn videos for the audio now. This is the biggest disruption to the porn industry since the introduction of vhs home video.
+--- 57976782
+>>57976622
+>gun toting clown whore fetish
+
+aw man we've passed the point of no return...
+--- 57976831
+>>57948362
+Not gonna lie, the fusion of WW2 and current era uniforms and helmets is pretty fucking dope.
+--- 57977072
+>>57958119
+Seriously can someone explain what this means because I tired searching her name it looked like a naked kid.
+
+Never before have I jumped so far from libertarian to communist
+--- 57977202
+>>57976622
+Based teddy k post
+--- 57977211
+cant wait for being a complete luddite to be the new thing on 4chan and the mental gymnastics of how using 4chan, playing videogames and watching porn are still kosher
+--- 57977345
+>>57977211
+Bro if the amish decided to move their technology goalposts from 1840 to 1998, I’d be the biggest most charismatic “let’s do a Batman villain crime on a general population subversivelu using their public services” meme. 
+
+Get shiddy 0 ged whet baybee
+--- 57977830
+>>57977345
+what is picrel? looks dystopian
+--- 57977880
+>>57977830
+Idk the tab got memory holed and me me I’m drunk but it was like a bunch of Jackie Chan Yao Ming Mickey Rooney Chinaman bug people swarming around a Reddit meme locust cancer dystopian big bug brother” type of stuff
+--- 57978401
+>>57977072
+>Seriously can someone explain what this means because I tired searching her name it looked like a naked kid.
+What do you mean what does it mean? It means that people in the AI community worked on ways to make good Ortega images and figured it out months ago. 
+Sorry everything you need isn't a shitty google search away, try actually learning about AI, it isn't hard it just requires more than ten seconds of zoombrain focus. 
+
+Like holy fuck most of the people in this thread are still Prompting with full sentences and not even using a model, fucking caveman shit.
+--- 57978419
+>>57976622
+>The ideal future is one where production isn’t criminalized but illegal distribution is.
+Lol what the fuck are they gonna do, send the Pinkertons after me? Go ahead, we'll see who dies over AI plagiarism. 
+ Copyright is DEAD, ownership of images is DEAD, likeness is DEAD.
+--- 57978532
+>>57978419
+Idk production is hard to regulate. Distribution is easy. What’s there to complicate joinks
+--- 57978604
+>>57978532
+I'm going to sell bootleg AI generated right wing Justice League comics out of the side of a Van and NO ONE CAN STOP ME.
+--- 57978626
+>>57978604
+Like “hey don’t do that stop it” and blam you’re done
+--- 57978632
+>>57978626
+>Like “hey don’t do that stop it” and blam they're dead
+fixed that for you
+--- 57978659
+>>57978632
+Well guess what you don’t get to be a testing ground ai anti-human protesting bots anymore. 
+
+Way to go for hating America or something I’m on retainer 8yvnv
+--- 57978691
+Bro literally what is going on in these threads
+--- 57979277
+>>57977345
+If you think anything after the 1950s was "salvageable" you're fucking kidding yourself
+--- 57979302
+>>57979277
+Fuck the 1950s. That was just temporarily basking in geopolitical glory but it was also the start of like credit traps and stuff. Was the cause of boomerism and the beginning of the degeneration. 
+
+Me me I’m a reconstruction man. If you’re gonna unfuck the Industrial Revolution and it’s consequences you might as get as oily of a start as you can
+--- 57980068
+>>57979302
+Oh I'm not holding it up as an ideal, I'm saying that by the 60s, there was *no* saving the culture. As in, with tremendous will and effort, a huge change in what we did in the real past, you could have *maybe* righted the ship if you started before 1960. A society can repeal immigration doctrine, it can correct economic follies, but what it cant do is "un fuck" it's youth once you've let faggots educate them.
+
+With the sixties, the first generation would be mentally crippled. Taught leftist social theory, racial theory, sexual theory, and raised by the glowing electric box in their living room rather than their parents. Once you cripple one generation's education, they'll weaken the society every year till the last of them is aged to death, and god help all the successive generations they'll cripple in their ignorance. Once you've ruined a generation of children, the only thing left for a society is violent upheaval. It will weaken until it either cannot run itself and is overthrown from within or is conquered. It might take a hundred years, but it's all straight down hill. 
+
+
+If you want to get *completely* ahead of all the social, economic, spiritual, and political decay that we're dealing with today you're going to have to go back before the civil war far enough to stop BOTH sides of that political divide from ever coming into being.

k/57948734.txt

@@ -593,8 +593,6 @@ Any good shooting ranges around that let me shoot my AK in peace?
 --- 57964357
 >>57963647
 the gun related ones are easy indeed. but I feel like I’m better off learning shit about the animals and plants instead of trying to memorize the entire Fragenkatalog
---- 57964373
-Meanwhile in Europe
 --- 57964423
 Good night, ignore the noguns
 --- 57964448
@@ -604,8 +602,6 @@ Nah just repeat the questions until you know them by memory. Its not that hard,
 >>57964345
 there's a RAG in Zirndorf the representative of which approved my Bedürfnis for buying guns, he went out of his way to invite me to shoot there because I live here, but I usually shoot somewhere else entirely. Haven't been there but they seem nice.
 How far are you willing to travel?
---- 57965180
-I love Hitler
 --- 57967370
 >>57963644
 >He'll vote for more gun control.
@@ -636,3 +632,435 @@ Why is he so obsessed with /euk/ threads anyway?
 --- 57968673
 >>57968563
 gm anon
+--- 57968681
+>>57968642
+Do you have any idea how mind broken you are lmao
+--- 57968689
+>>57965161
+Have you been to the one in Neumarkt?
+Would also travel 1h max for a proper range
+--- 57968695
+>>57968657
+There are a few options as we had some retards in the past. He is either that retarded germcuck who advocated for strict gun laws and said that a gun should cost 5k euro minimum (but he owned only a pair of shitty O/U)
+Or he is a undraged noguns /pol/tard who while being american he can't even own guns as he's probably under some schizo medication.
+Third option he's either a jealous bong or a dumb vatnik falseflagging.
+--- 57968704
+>>57948734 (OP)
+For now I stick to pistols, because my range isn't rated for anything bigger, so long guns are limited to 22lr and PCCs, and at a greater range than 25m.
+
+Need to find a better range so I can shoot more guns.
+--- 57968714
+>>57960457
+Depends on what you are looking for.
+If you just want to pewpew, go with US Brand since they are the cheapest (DPMS etc).
+Get Hera if you like the looks (they used to have QC issues).
+DAR if you have tons of money and don't intend to modify.
+LDT I haven't heard of.
+Schmeisser if you are a wehraboo
+Oberland Black Label is the best value imo, you get a Wylde-chambered Walther barrel in a gun that doesn't rattle.
+G36 variants are not really good guns, only consider if you served in the armed forces and have training with it.
+
+Other options include the MR223, Sig 550 and AUG Sport.
+--- 57968738
+>>57968673
+Bondschorno
+--- 57968745
+>wake up
+>Look outside
+>Gray commie block shitholes as far as the eye can see 
+God get me out of this Balkan shithole
+--- 57968750
+>>57968581
+because it's the second largest language in the EU, easy hunting exams and knowing an extra language never hurts
+and if you are german, france is your third or forth largest trading partner and not a lot of germans speak french anyway near understandable so it could be ticket to a good job.
+mind you you don't even need good french if you go to one of those license mills
+--- 57968763
+>>57968714
+Whats the deal with Haenel? I heard HK won the lawsuit against them for copyright issues with a model of theirs and now they have to destroy all rifles and take them back from customers in germany yet not in other countries. Why? Do you not have customer protection rights?
+--- 57968770
+>>57968750
+He's the troll that has been shittying up the thread, don't pay him attention
+--- 57968778
+>>57968738
+Nigger I can see where the rounds been struck 
+
+Fucking larping euros with inert ammo
+--- 57968780
+>>57968745
+No that's Kouvola
+--- 57968785
+>>57960457
+>Oberland
+Best value euro AR by far.
+--- 57968789
+>>57968763
+They only have to take them back from public customers like police not private
+--- 57968792
+>>57968778
+>says Muhammed, the noguns bong who needs a license for airsoft guns
+--- 57968794
+>>57968778
+>he thinks that's a firing pin strike 
+Cringe noguns
+--- 57968795
+>>57968785
+Would you recommend the Super Light version? Or does the barrel get to hot?
+--- 57968799
+>>57968785
+Nah. Their quality is even lower than SW MP2
+--- 57968802
+>>57968792
+>>57968794
+Lmao don't kill yourself guys 
+
+Why do euros have no chill you guys are trapped in an endless cycle of perpetual seethe
+--- 57968807
+>>57968799
+There's nothing wrong with the M&P II though
+--- 57968808
+>>57968689
+No, I sadly haven't been shooting close to Nürnberg at all, sorry. I will in the future though, probably.
+--- 57968815
+>>57968802
+>act retarded
+>get called retarded
+>w-why u guys mad :(((
+I don't know, maybe try to be normal for a minute
+--- 57968820
+>>57968738
+'mornin
+--- 57968822
+>>57968815
+Nigger I can see exactly where the hammer struck it
+
+I can see it with my eyes
+--- 57968831
+>>57968802
+It's kinda sad that you're living such a life devoid of human interaction where your only chance to have people notice you is to try and troll people online.
+--- 57968837
+>>57968822
+stop
+--- 57968840
+>>57968822
+>the hammer strikes the primer now
+Oh lmao, peak noguns bong.
+--- 57968847
+>>57968820
+Wot grip?
+--- 57968855
+>>57968847
+I haven't changed it, it's an A1 grip
+--- 57968858
+>>57968855
+Huh. Looked unfamiliar. Though mine has an A2 grip and it fits my smol hand fine so w/e
+--- 57968864
+>>57968831
+I have a gf I get human interaction all the time 
+
+I'm just trying to make friends a lot of people on this website are seriously fucked in the head and live an alternate reality
+--- 57968875
+>>57968840
+What does bong mean
+--- 57968878
+>>57968864
+fuck ya mudda
+--- 57968879
+>>57968864
+Let me guess, your gf goes to another school? You're so sad it hurts.
+--- 57968885
+>>57968864
+>I'm just trying to make friends
+>proceeds to shit up the thread and spamming non stop
+You should really take your meds, schizo.
+--- 57968886
+>>57968879
+No I'm 26 we don't go to school anymore we are grown ups
+--- 57968893
+>>57968864
+annon we are all randos here you can't even tell people apart 
+you can't make friends here
+--- 57968896
+>>57968885
+>Spamming non stop 
+What?
+--- 57968902
+>>57968886
+>me 26 year old
+>legit functional adult 
+>using the words grown ups to describe me any my 188percent real gf
+lol
+--- 57968930
+>>57968785
+Would you recommend the SL version or does the barrel get to hot?
+--- 57968940
+>>57968902
+She is real I'm extremely handsome why wouldn't I have a girlfriend
+--- 57968964
+>tfw too many guns leaving no room for gf
+--- 57968991
+>clay range is still closed
+to live is to suffer
+>>57958831
+yeah but we evened that out
+--- 57969015
+>>57968991
+I only watch MMA and boxing 
+I like to think of football as a gift from the anglo race to the less fortunate
+--- 57969024
+>>57968991
+Could always be like my situation
+>clay range 5 min away but it's €30 an hour
+>clay range half an hour away but I'm in the wrong club so I'm not allowed to shoot there
+--- 57969025
+>>57969015
+yet you suck at it
+fox, grapes, etc
+--- 57969028
+>>57969025
+We suck at fighting? Or football?
+--- 57969074
+>>57969024
+oh you don't know half of it
+>be me
+>finally get a shooting license
+>"sweet, I'll get into long range shooting"
+>get rifle
+>nearest long range shooting range is 80km from me
+>"whatever"
+>eventually get bored of driving 2h every time I want to shoot + 308 ammo is expensive
+>last december
+>find out there's a clay range really close to where I live
+>try contacting them, no luck
+>ask the gun store if they know anything about it
+>"yeah supposedly they'll open around christmas"
+>first days of january, go there, lots of excavators, trucks, etc
+>ask one of the boomers there for info
+>"we're in the middle of some renovation works, we'll open by easter"
+>decide there and then to go trade in my long range rifle for a O/U
+>easter comes
+>try contacting them, no luck again
+>eventually go there yet again last saturday
+>"we won't open before the end of may"
+sigh
+>>57969028
+>smartest bongoloid
+--- 57969089
+>wake up
+>still British
+--- 57969094
+>>57969074
+>decide there and then to go trade in my long range rifle for a O/U
+It was at this point that he knew he had fucked up
+How long was your long range shooting range?
+--- 57969125
+>>57969094
+200m
+>fucked up
+no really, it just wasn't fun anymore
+--- 57969140
+>>57969125
+You did god. 200m is still iron sight range. I still haven't bought a t3x because the only long range (500-1000m) near me opens only for those dumb "sniper school" courses.
+--- 57969143
+>>57969125
+>200
+I'm lucky enough to have use of a 300m range half an hour away (there's another 1.5 hrs away but it's a hassle to get in), but any longer than that and it's 4+ hours or something.
+--- 57969147
+>>57969140
+Good*
+--- 57969152
+>>57969074
+We are pretty smart
+--- 57969279
+Quick question for my austrian /k/ommandos:
+How’s Carinthia for gun appreciators? Any shops worth visiting? Any decent ranges? Is the administration gun friendly? 
+I feel like most actual „serious“ gun enthusiasts are located in or around Vienna. Especially south of Vienna
+--- 57969585
+>>57969565
+?
+--- 57969617
+>>57969613
+why are you like this
+--- 57969755
+>>57969613
+>Moor
+He's not anglo tho?
+--- 57969795
+>>57968695
+Maybe it's that spastic swiss from /akg/
+--- 57969856
+>>57969617
+I have no friends and guns
+--- 57969961
+>>57969856
+Get guns, they're a good way to make friends
+--- 57969963
+>>57969961
+not that anon but i wish that were the case
+every single range is boomer central here
+and by that I mean 65 years average age
+--- 57970004
+>>57969963
+Where are you from?
+The gun club I'm in is growing extremely fast thanks to the influx of young people.
+--- 57970010
+>>57970004
+italy
+--- 57970016
+>>57969279
+Nigger Kärnten has Ferlach, literally Gun City Europe. There are about 10-20 different shops/gunsmiths in the town alone, plus the 2nd Glock factory. Sometimes the range of the Ferlach proofing office is open to the public too, or so I've heard.
+--- 57970043
+>>57970010
+Are you going to the TSN? Cause that's your first mistake. At my locar range that it's a cava it's only young people and some boomer and they don't even care if we bumpfire or shoot at expired cabbage
+--- 57970072
+>>57970043
+>TSN
+used to, not anymore
+I used to go to a long range one (I'm >>57969074)
+>cava
+do you happen to go to Alpha 22 shooting club?
+--- 57970091
+>>57970072
+Nope, I'm in Lombardia. Mine is literally just a cava by the side of a mountain, you pay 20 euro and you can stay how much you want. It's a little gem hidden. Downside is that it only has steel targets up to 300m
+--- 57970119
+>>57951691
+Finnish AKs are pretty much the best you can get though, or so I've heard.
+--- 57970175
+Hi fellas, retard here.
+
+Just wondering if there are actual EU gun laws, like how the Americans have federal laws.
+
+If so what are those laws? Is it trivial stuff that doesn't really affect gun owners or is it laws made by boomers who's firearm knowledge comes exclusively from movies.
+--- 57970194
+>>57970016
+based
+--- 57970208
+>>57970119
+For shooting with irons, probably. They're also relatively accurate in that they're all 2 MOA guns or better (unless shot to shit)
+--- 57970222
+>>57970175
+The eu can pass some directives like the last one in 2015, but the single EU country needs to turn them into law in their own country as they see fit. 
+For example the 2015 one made it that magazine limit is 10 rounds for rifles and 20 for handguns, most countries tho implemented the law differently or simply ignored it. Somw cucked places did instead apply it.
+But the concept of the EU making a law by themselves and everyone having to follow it is flawed in the first place.
+--- 57970223
+>>57970175
+Each EU country has its own laws. Even if some get theirs from movies, the others don't.
+--- 57970224
+>>57970175
+The whole needing national exceptions to get bigger mags than 10rds thing comes from EU law, for example, but I can't say I'm too well-versed in it. The original proposal would have banned semis EU-wide altogether
+--- 57970232
+>>57958959
+Grenouille here too. 
+
+As the others anons said, just act as a normal human being, tell them you just wanna try it as a sport. 
+Ask about ranges policies and try to avoid the FFTir boomer's ranges that makes you shoot with air rifles for a while. 
+
+If you are in Île de France I can tell you a about a few nice ranges.
+
+Also If you are looking for more infos about the ranges in your area there are several topics on them on the paaf2 forum. Wich is as weel a nice place to find secondhands guns and stuff..
+--- 57971564
+Bump
+--- 57971642
+Can anyone find an european shop with a mustard ak sling in stock? (Yellowish color and black leather ring)
+I've been searching for months
+--- 57971884
+>>57971642
+>be eurocuck
+>can't even buy a sling
+Lol lmao even
+--- 57972131
+>>57971642
+For once I can't help at all, I barely ever see AK-74 slings of any kind with the clip at both ends
+--- 57972227
+>>57972131
+It's like they dried up overnight.
+--- 57972464
+>>57970175
+There's a semblance of EU law when it comes to categories of firearms which states mostly adapt to their own, but it did lead to some local changes of law here and there. They are roughly the following:
+
+category A
+>"war" firearms, generally banned, anything from explosives to full auto guns, states can nonetheless allow citizens to own these for historical, cultural, scientific research, technical, educational, reasons
+category B
+>"shooting sports" firearms, subject to authorisation, basically all semi-autos with removable magazines, and short weapons, which includes handguns
+category C
+>"hunting" firearms, subject to declaration, that is all other cartridge-based firearms that don't fit in the above
+category D
+>black powder guns, pepper spray and knives
+
+Full text here, see ANNEX I
+https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ:L:2021:115:FULL&from=EN
+
+To my knowledge all countries have exceptions, but many are getting quite close to it. I can attest France is.
+--- 57972553
+>>57972464
+France has some of the laxest rules for category D "antiques"
+--- 57972579
+>>57972553
+Nta, not even french as my country gun laws are better, but in the end I feel like it doesn't matter. I honestly don't see gun laws in europe actually improving any time soon. On contrary, I feel like in 50 years we all will live and have laws like the chinese or the brits.
+--- 57972610
+>>57971642
+I've been looking for one as well for some time.
+--- 57972621
+>>57972579
+Makes it even nicer to be able to get decent guns that stay unregistered
+--- 57972630
+>>57971642
+Search airsoft shops, they usually have them.
+--- 57972703
+>>57972630
+Aren't those chinese repros?
+--- 57973215
+>>57948734 (OP)
+austrian anon here from last week? who did his Waffenbesitzkarte stuff (being allowed to own pistol and semi automatic guns)
+
+here how it went:
+1) show that you can handle and shoot a pistol safely
+ezpz
+load a mag and shot properly at around 5 meters
+I had a good grouping, it was only centered to the lower left corner
+
+2) psycho test
+you have to fill out 2 different tests
+if you are not a lunatic you should pass this
+the interesting part was the personal interview with the psychologist asking all kind of questions you better not answer like an idiot
+
+example:
+>why do you want this permit
+self defense and sport shooting
+>self defense? are you feeling threaten? 
+uuuuh not really
+
+and so on, with all kind of personal life questions, private life, family, friends....
+
+
+Next week heading to the public office and getting the WBK.
+First gun will probably take some time, first some test shooting and thinking hard about what to get and getting informed about Wechselsystem platforms.
+--- 57973261
+>>57973215
+Kinda funny the they would have you take the shooting test before the schizo evaluation
+--- 57973356
+>>57973261
+it was at the same time
+my gunshop offered the package in one sitting
+so instead of going to the psychologist myself, they organize them and all has been done in under 2 hours at his range
+
+beforehand you get the shooting instruction and legal stuff
+and then everything else is done right there, which is pretty cool
+--- 57973782
+>>57948734 (OP)
+Greetings from germany.
+--- 57974181
+>>57973215
+>are you feeling threatened?
+should’ve gone full schizo mode and told him about the muslims
+--- 57974246
+>>57973782
+A deadly weapon, in the hands of a skilled soldier.
+--- 57976175
+Range trip tomorrow. Gn /euk/
+--- 57978775
+Morning lads.
+--- 57980047
+gm /euk/
+--- 57980058
+>>57976175
+I will also go before work. I have a new bolt to test

k/57949084.txt

@@ -781,3 +781,57 @@ what made no sense was that the iron bank supposedly is bank rolling his campaig
 --- 57968521
 >>57965770
 so it doesn't follow at all and you're just making shit up
+--- 57969876
+>>57968517
+>the iron bank supposedly is bank rolling his campaign
+in the show, they gave him funds before sailing back to Westeros, but it was only enough to get im to Winterfell
+
+in the books, the Iron Bank representative has only just *reached* his camp near Winterfell.
+--- 57970554
+>>57955164
+Kek
+--- 57970615
+>>57949210
+Cool, but Stan is isn't a religious zealot in the slightest
+He might be in fact the furthest character from that in the books, he's an edgy atheist
+--- 57970731
+>>57953309
+He can call out who he wants because his side is the right one in both cases
+--- 57971784
+>>57949535
+--- 57972138
+>>57953019
+>He could be a Russian General Staff poke with a dumb move like that.
+
+Or German General Staff lol
+--- 57972154
+>>57956436
+>This was a Kiev-style Zerg Rush with no MSR or Logistics Train a few years BEFORE the ACTUAL Kiev Zerg Rush with no MSR and No Log Train.
+
+To be fair, Germany tried the same thing at Moscow in 1941 and it had ended in a similarly spectacular failure. D&D weren't exactly being visionary here.
+--- 57972321
+>>57971784
+gimi
+--- 57972411
+>>57972281
+This
+--- 57972651
+>>57970615
+>edgy atheist accidentally allows child sacrifice demon cult to take over
+Pretty realistic actually.
+--- 57972813
+>>57972651
+Hey! Cool it with the antisemitism buddy.
+--- 57974836
+>comparing any character to putin
+--- 57975524
+>>57974836
+Thats how redditoids work
+Especially that stannis is the antithesis of putin
+--- 57976950
+>>57962577
+--- 57980090
+>>57967429
+If you were that worried about archers couldn't dragons just drop burning shit from way outside bow range?
+
+Fuck, just get a huge bag of rocks and blast them before you drop them, that dragon fire is so hot they'd probably still be red hot when they hit the ground.

k/57953761.txt

@@ -366,3 +366,283 @@ Based.
 --- 57968090
 >>57965246
 The AG42 was a retarded design for a combat rifle anyway
+--- 57968816
+>>57954001
+Just because the military something doesn't magically make it "le best!".
+
+This is the same military that adopted the M14 a decade after they fought a military using the StG 44.
+--- 57968825
+>>57957979
+If I was gonna blow $1600 on a rifle like that, I'd at least get something interesting like an AUG.
+--- 57970470
+>>57956430
+>Thinking the 416 started the short stroke piston trend
+>>57957001
+>The asinine nomenclature that you can only make sense of if you already know what it is
+Why not Indirect Impingement, from an etymological level it makes more sense.
+>>57957979
+>$1600
+With no stock, pistol brace, and the world's tiniest handguard that everyone immediately replaces. Add $500 to the cost; if you're going to shill for an admittedly cool rifle at least be honest.
+--- 57970510
+>>57956430
+A few benefits of short stroke compared to DI...
+>Suppressability. 
+No one's saying DI can't use suppressors, but AR's spawned a market full of varying buffer weights, varying spring weights, and an entirely new type of suppressor (flow through) to cope with the complexities increased backpressure creates for ARs. Adjustable gas regulators on piston guns are all you need to switch from suppressed to unsuppressed use - it's simpler. And to keep this as short as possible, surely you know that adjustable gas blocks on ARs are anything but recommended for a good reason.
+>Better for regions with varied climates.
+I've shot my ARs and piston guns enough to know which gets caked in carbon and which gets a light dusting; ARs can run dirty, as long as they're lubricated, that's part of the design. But in regions where there can be massive temperature and humidity changes, the effectiveness of a lubricant can be severely diminished, possibly bringing an AR to a hault. Piston guns run dry but want to be cleaned, ARs run dirty but want lube. Again, this makes a short stroke gun a simpler solution for most countries.
+>They're simpler to design around varying barrel lengths, multiple calibers, and different cartridge loadings. 
+Take the SCAR as an example, from a 10" barrel 5.56 to the 20" barrel 6.5CM, the gas block is in the same spot and all that changes is the little gas jet within the gas block. This maximizes parts commonality and simplifies production, lowering costs. Not the case on ARs, where a simple barrel length change (not to mention caliber changes or subsonic vs supersonic ammunition) requires a different gas block position, gas tube length, different buffer weight... again, the short stroke is the simpler option.
+
+This isn't to convince you that SSGP > DI. Only to give a few reasons on why countries go with short stroke for their domestic rifle designs, a decision that started LONG before the HK416 was adopted.
+--- 57970556
+>>57953791
+We know, it's just vietnam bro vets decided to ak our ars. Basically if an ar15 had a piston and rod it is bubba'd the fuck up and it's an overpriced piece of shit that will burn your fucking hand off just by shooting 5 or 10 rounds. Then you set it down to cool off and melt the fucking case.
+--- 57970605
+>>57965064
+If by this you mean the shitheaps Taurus produces aren't "guns" then yes
+--- 57970622
+>>57970510
+Now I wonder how a 416 (or even a Caracal) would do in the jungles of Vietnam
+--- 57970626
+>>57954633
+>millennioomer
+Is this the peak of culture evolution? Just add -oomer to literally anything and everything? Fucking idioomers.
+--- 57970668
+>>57970622
+Maybe France can try to recolonize and let us know.
+--- 57970775
+>>57954190
+May the inbred Pakis bless us with an updated G-3
+--- 57970887
+>>57970775
+Yeah /k/ is getting lost in the weeds with a specific guns issues. A 1970s AR-18 probably isn’t as good as a SR-15 either. This isn’t proof of SSGP being bad.
+--- 57970911
+>>57970775
+>inbred pakis make inbred design. 
+The least they could have done is taken a page out of Spuhr's design and made the stock inline. Reads like the emaciated norks smashing together random aesthetic features on their firearms and vehicles without any idea of why those features were implemented in the first place.
+I'm more interested in their BW21 since it's still roller delayed but is more than just a frankengun: https://files.catbox.moe/iqo44b.mp4
+--- 57970984
+>>57970911
+The picture is above is the BW-20 I think.
+The whole stick of the 20 is to give it AR style ease of operation ambidextrous, while retaining the Roller delayed mechanism.
+--- 57971796
+>>57965246
+Haven't been adopted yet but will be soon enough.
+
+Interestingly, both DI and short stroke systems remain popular both in civilian and military circles. Should basically tell everyone that both systems are fine, and have certain advantages over one another, and it's up to preference on what features you like. DI makes the gun lighter, and softer shooting. Short stroke improves reliability (not really something your average end user might see), is easier to clean and probably makes it easier to adjust the system for different barrel lengths and suppressed/unsuppressed.
+--- 57971818
+>>57954176
+DI guns don't brap you if they're gassed correctly. also piston guns are louder than DI guns
+--- 57974346
+DI:
+>more accurate
+>lighter 
+>cheaper 
+>more reliable in the field (it literally cleans itself)
+>easier to maintain
+the list goes on and on
+--- 57975288
+>>57953791
+All Stoner did was move the gas expansion chamber deeper into the bolt carrier compared to the Ljungman and French rifles that used the DI mechanism before him, so he could vent the gas out of the action in a closed receiver. 
+It is no more a piston action than the MAS49.
+--- 57975468
+>>57954001
+The trials that people talk about, like the Carbine Extreme Dust Test (from pic) are faulty for a few reasons. 
+The CEDT is one of the biggest done and most heavily referenced so I'll focus on it. 
+First is that they used off the production line selections for the M4 and HK416, but specialty production for the SCAR and XM8. Creating an extremely unfair playing field. 
+As well, they tested the M4 as is, with the legendarily terrible aluminum GI mags. Where almost every other firearm used either had a proprietary magazine, or one that was of an improved model. 
+The M4s of course, used the non-resetting burst fire mechanisms. So if there was a problem where the burst fire only shot 2rds and the next pull released 1 shot, you had a 'double stoppage'. This was an issue none of the competitors had to deal with. 
+The disparity between Test 1 M4 and Test 2 M4 was never addressed and significantly calls into question the sampling bias between the two tests and the sets of rifles in them.
+Finally, it only counted for dusty conditions. Not muddy, cold, etc.
+--- 57975637
+>>57955671
+The prototypes for the Tokarev and the FN49 were developed at basically the same time. 
+Even before them, Mannlicher had developed short stroke gas piston systems for his rifles. Although, they were closer to the 'Gas Tappet' concept in practice.
+--- 57975688
+>>57975468
+Cope lol. There's a reason militaries around the world switched to short stroke piston. Why is it so hard for you to admit that one mechanical system is better than another mechanical system? It's crazy how you attach your emotions to an concept regarding firearms lol.
+--- 57975788
+>>57975688
+Because it is simply an inferior, neither fish nor fowl, method of actuating a firearm that is treated as the second coming by grass-is-greener types. 
+Anything that it is meant to be good at, DI or Long Stroke is superior. It is extra complexity and weight for no gains on any end. 
+
+Its popular because anyone developing a firearm since the 1960s has to focus on differentiating their product from the AR15 and AK74. And using the short stroke piston is the easiest way to do that from the get-go.
+--- 57975899
+>>57968816
+Yes but there were no tests indicated the M14 performed more reliably than its opponents. In this case, the anon you're replying to is basing his decisions off of military testing trials. Big difference.
+--- 57975928
+>>57956430
+SSP is barrel length agnostic. 
+Unlike long stroke systems that move important carrier weight into the bolt carrier extension, and DI that relies on precise gas pressure, SSP firearms have a lot more room when cutting down barrels or using many interchangeable lengths.
+--- 57976240
+>>57975637
+NTA but here's a the FN49 prototype from 1936 - very similar gas system to what would end up on the FN49. 
+I think more people attribute the design to Tokarev, even if they were developed around the same time, because of how many more SVT-38/40's were produced. No different than people attributing the long stroke piston system to the AK, even though there were designs that predated it.. one gas system design or another were copied because people had the more prevalent predecessors on hand to use as inspiration, thus the credit of one system or another was given to them.
+--- 57976386
+>>57975288
+I have a car with this thing inside that has 8 gas expansion chambers, not really sure what else to call them.
+--- 57976544
+>>57970510
+>No one's saying DI can't use suppressors, but AR's spawned a market full of varying buffer weights, varying spring weights, and an entirely new type of suppressor (flow through) to cope with the complexities increased backpressure creates for ARs. Adjustable gas regulators on piston guns are all you need to switch from suppressed to unsuppressed use - it's simpler. And to keep this as short as possible, surely you know that adjustable gas blocks on ARs are anything but recommended for a good reason.
+Not the case whatsoever, traditional suppressors having a negative effect on a gas operated rifles performance isnt unique to DI. 
+Nor are a vareity of weights needed for ar15s needed to function with a suppressor, thats not the function of buffer weights at all in an ar15 anyway. 
+Adjustable gas blocks arent needed on an ar15 with a properly sized gasport. 
+Even the most advanced ar15 variant the sr15 doesnt feature anything special regarding the gas system to function with a silencer, simply a properly sized gas port and a run of the mill carbine buffer tube and spring with a standard h2 buffer. 
+>Not the case on ARs, where a simple barrel length change (not to mention caliber changes or subsonic vs supersonic ammunition) requires a different gas block position, gas tube length, different buffer weight... again, the short stroke is the simpler option.
+
+Changing a gas block position on an ar is trivial, a different gas tube and a different sized gas port is all you need, again there is no truth behind the statement that you must change the buffer configuration or weight to make them reliable, a properly sized gas port regardless of barrel length and gas system length will run on a lower of any configuration. Ive used carbine, rifle and a5 systems interchangeably with 11.5, 13.9, 14.5, 16, 18 and 20 and never ever had a malfunction suppressed or not. 
+
+Short stroke is better in very short suppressed applications tho.
+--- 57976577
+>>57976386
+Cute
+--- 57976604
+>>57976240
+Yeah, its extremely rare for anything to be developed light years ahead of comparable tech elsewhere. 
+The practical short stroke piston rifle isn't rocket surgery, and has pretty clear incentives to create. Letting you use far smaller forgings for your bolt carrier, compared to an attached piston, for example.
+--- 57976643
+>>57976604
+Not necessarily the case. 
+The SCAR has a fuckhueg one peice bolt carrier, even larger than an ak, even if you include the riveted on oprod.
+--- 57976663
+>>57976643
+True, there's always an exception. 
+Though in that case it was done simply to make the bolt carrier itself extremely heavy as a way to ideally let it smash through anything preventing action from opening.
+--- 57976750
+>>57976663
+Im sure they were keeping in mind its simplicity too. No need for an oprod, oprod return spring when its integral to the carrier, where the scar used a short stroke gas tappet rather than a traditional short stroke piston like the g36/416. 
+
+Wish the white self regulating gas piston would make a comeback, closest thing ive found is the self cleaning system found on the LWRC Repr.
+--- 57976859
+>>57953761 (OP)
+>A good charging handle stops gas blowing in your face when shooting suppressed.
+
+Tell me you haven't shot a gas checked rifle without telling me you haven't shot a gas checked rifle. The charging handles, all of them, do next to nothing compared to something like a bootleg bolt carrier or an adjustable gas block.
+--- 57976869
+>>57976859
+Yeah but what do they do compared to not using one at all?
+--- 57976910
+>>57976544
+The basis ("just build it right") rings pretty hollow. If you actually tune your gas system for suppressed use to get as little gas back into the action as possible, it won't run unsuppressed. Tuning your gas system for unsuppressed use, however, will run perfectly fine while suppressed. 
+The "middle point" that you think you're describing where an AR works both suppressed and unsuppressed isn't a middle point but, in fact, is just having it run reliably while unsuppressed. SSP can be tuned for either, on the fly, with the flick of a regulator.
+
+All of these alternative AR gas block designs (Gemtech GVAC, as the most recent example), adjustable bolt carriers, and a wide swath of buffer and spring weights.. if they didn't make a difference then they wouldn't exist - there wouldn't be a market for them. You're willfully blind to how those things can affect an AR if you deny that.
+
+>Changing a gas block position on an ar is trivial
+Trivial for a civilian lego-ing their next AR build, sure. For a factory producing all of their own parts this means:
+- different machines to manufacture different gas tube lengths
+- setting up production workflows for different barrel profiles
+- different sized tooling for drilling and deburring gas ports.. 
+The latter two of which are design changes to the most expensive and critical part of a rifle, something you fuck around (and fuck up) as little as possible. the AK-100 series has something like 97% parts commonality between all 6 primary models for a reason - the less a factory has to fuck around with between different designs, the fewer issues there can be. To restate, the basis of my answers in >>57970510 was that for a country designing a new rifle family, SSP is simpler than DI.
+--- 57976940
+>>57976750
+>Wish the white self regulating gas piston would make a comeback, closest thing ive found is the self cleaning system found on the LWRC Repr.
+What's self regulating about the Repr? It has an adjustable regulator. The G36 has a "self regulating" gas block, but that too was total BS because the 416 takes that exact same design but adds on an adjustable regulator, clearly it can't regulate itself without manual intervention if that was needed.
+--- 57976968
+>>57976869
+Effectively nothing in my experience. They will direct a tiny amount of gas away, but 99% still goes in your face. It's not an issue outdoors but good lord you will be choking on smoke indoors
+--- 57976993
+>>57976968
+This. Preventing the gas from getting trapped inside the receiver in the first place does far more.
+--- 57977230
+>>57976910
+>it rings hollow
+Only if youre arguing in bad faith. 
+Simply sizing a gasport correctly is all you need. 
+Any kind of "tuning" is purely for the experience for the shooter, not for the reliability of the weapon, built properly an ar will be reliable both suppressed and unsuppressed and wont have an excessive bolt speed either. All of the other options on the market arent inneffective by any means, that doesnt mean theyre a neccesity but just another mousetrap bringing novelty to a saturated market.
+Ive got much more experience here than you do. My ars dont have adjustability at all and 416 doesnt have an adjustable gas block either, and its perfectly reliable and pleasant to shoot, how is this possible without an adjustable gas block? 
+Im not about to go spend 500 dollars on an adjustable 416 gasblock to maybe see a performance gain here.
+--- 57977304
+>>57976910
+>different machines to manufacture different gas tube lengths
+- setting up production workflows for different barrel profiles
+- different sized tooling for drilling and deburring gas ports..
+These are legitimately trivial problems anon, are you really suggesting that machinists have a hard time changing to different sized cutting tools? 
+They do it constantly, everyday on the same machines. 
+Strange how colt, FN, KAC and Daniel Defense can manage this on a mass produced scale without an issue at all, though some of them like DD are guilty of using oversized gasports to cater to civilian use of terrible cheap ammunition. 
+DD has since rectified this problem, 2015-18 barrels were generally the era where they did this.
+--- 57977370
+>>57976940
+Nothing, its just visually very similar to a White gas piston. 
+The vented 416 gasblock is perfectly servicable though, the overgassing the 416 is infamous for is due to the original unvented block, I dont have any experience with the factory adjustable blocks for the A5 variant, and I havent heard much good about the aftermarket adjustable blocks for the A3.
+--- 57977526
+>>57976750
+I think the White system is too smart for its own good. 
+Like, yeah, you can feed an M14 anything short of a spiked case and the White regulator will do its job. 
+But, how often is that needed for the relative complexity and precision manufacturing necessary?
+--- 57977541
+>>57959334
+I thought that G3s were actually quite accurate? I was under the impression that the big disadvantages of RDB were that they mangle cases and leave the chamber just as dirty as, if not even dirtier than, a DI AR.
+
+>>57959256
+You have to be trolling.
+--- 57977562
+>>57953811
+short stroke piston operated roller locking is even better.
+--- 57977575
+>>57977526
+Like ive been arguing with this other anon that insists that a short stroke piston is more simple than an ar, personally id trade some manufacturing complexity for a simpler weapon as an end result. 
+There may well be a good reason besides cost why the white system isnt used, Ibe just never found one.
+--- 57977578
+>>57957552
+RDBs aren't cheap they're like $1100
+--- 57977593
+>>57977578
+We talking roller delayed blowback or the keltec rdb?
+--- 57977599
+>>57977230
+Yes, HK made a part more complex and expensive to produce because it doesn't do anything, your skepticism of an adjustable regulator making a difference definitely doesn't ooze inexperience. Everything from something as old as the FAL to modern military rifles like the Bren, Grot, and Spear have adjustable gas systems for funsies.
+The "experience for the shooter" as you say is not without merit; having less recoil allows for faster followup shots. And before you argue that your rifles are already low recoil as is, the undeniable FACT that less gas = less recoil means that adjustable systems have inherent value.
+>>57977304
+Never did I say it was impossible nor that companies don't do it already. Only that doing so is undeniably extra work, extra tools, extra jigs, extra time, extra testing, and extra money. Money, time, and materials are not trivial for businesses with budgets and deadlines. Using some of the most giga-funded AR manufacturers that profit massively both off the MIC and civilian sales only supports my point.
+
+People hail the fact that many countries are giving up their bullpup rifles in favor of standard configuration rifles as the impending death of the bullpup; but any reasonable person can't deny the bullpup configuration has advantages. I would ask you, then, rather than simply shooting down my arguments to provide some real reasons as to why the SSP system is so prevalent in the vast majority of the world. It's not a 'fad' that started with the 416.
+--- 57977608
+>>57953761 (OP)
+>A good charging handle stops gas blowing in your face when shooting suppressed
+For like 3 rounds
+--- 57977615
+>>57977593
+yes
+--- 57977693
+>>57977578
+Compare the RDB's price to anything that isn't an AR. 
+
+You're always going to win the price argument if you use the AR as your example. MFI produces BCGs for hundreds of manufacturers, five or six factories forge the receivers for every AR brand. It's simple economies of scale, it has nothing to do with the design.
+--- 57977727
+>>57977693
+>Compare the RDB's price to anything that isn't an AR.
+you know we're talking roller delayed blowback, and not the kel tec RDB, right?
+--- 57977755
+>>57977727
+LOL. That's what I get for not reading the whole thread.
+--- 57978784
+>>57977541
+The G3 is accurate enough, as in it's less than 4 MOA but to get it more accurate you have to do what the PSG1 did and essentially make the rollers not rollers. A standard issued G3 was on par with all of it's contemporaries in accuracy but when it comes to accurizing it you need to do far more to it than most rifles.
+--- 57978870
+>>57970470
+The handguard certainly needs replacing, it's true. It comes with a buffer tube adapter, however, and you can throw on an AR stock for the cost of a buffer tube and a CTR or whatever you prefer. $500 is overstating it
+--- 57979034
+>>57978870
+The $1600 Bren 2's you're talking about are all pistols, CTR is a no-go unless you want to become a felon. The HBI handguards are $300, a pistol buffer tube and pistol brace (or an AR buffer tube, stock, and tax stamp) gets pretty close to $500 after taxes.
+--- 57979060
+>>57953761 (OP)
+a good charging handle goes on the SIDE of the gun. Only a fucking retard would put it at the rear of the receiver.
+--- 57979918
+>>57970510
+>and an entirely new type of suppressor (flow through) to cope with the complexities increased backpressure creates for ARs.
+Source that these were specifically designed with ARs in mind? I have owned a model designed for the AK series and it dates back years before the current flow through craze. Sold it because it wouldn't stay on - poor locking system
+--- 57980030
+>>57979060
+>a good charging handle goes on the SIDE of the gun. Only a fucking retard would put it at the rear of the receiver.
+
+You know the HK-416 and XM7 have the same positions for the charging handle right?
+--- 57980206
+>>57979034
+The most expensive HBI handguard is $270, so sure $300 after tax. I pinned and welded my Brens to avoid the tax stamp, free. A buffer tube is $10 and a CTR is like $40. We’re splitting hairs now though
+
+If you get one you want the pistol version fyi, carbine barrel profile is heavier
+--- 57980497
+someones insinuating i shouldnt own a particular type of gun. that gave me an idea. get that particular gun.
+
+whats the best short stroke gas piston gun

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@@ -563,3 +563,572 @@ What's some good furniture that isn't magpul that can go well with my moe ak sto
 --- 57968641
 >>57968322
 Cool photo
+--- 57968677
+>>57968322
+>Dragunov: Garbage Rod Edition?
+>mai este
+Explain
+--- 57968698
+>>57968641
+>*record scratch*
+>Yeah, that's me.
+>I bet you're wondering how I got into this situation
+>Well, to explain that we'll have to start way back...
+>[Baba O'Reilly intensifies]
+--- 57968713
+>>57968677
+Fucc nibba i don't speak got damn Castlevania Italian.
+
+Guess Gooble Gobble Translate done fucced up again.
+
+All I know is like...uh...fuckin uhhh....Numa Numa...Buna Zira....Fratele Meu...Sora Mea...uuuhhhh so is the PSL still worth it now that they're not dummy cheap anymore?
+--- 57968800
+>>57968698
+It'd be a Babba O'Reilly cover done by some groovy 70s Italians
+--- 57968967
+>>57968713
+The PSL has never been worth its price considering its enourmous flaws unless you just like the thing.
+--- 57969628
+>>57967244
+>>57967282
+>>57968157
+Thanks guys, it was a very freeing experience to paint. I recommend it to everyone
+--- 57969700
+how in 2023 are the vskas and ios and bft47s still shit? Why cant any American company make good AKs?
+--- 57969819
+>>57969700
+they have no reason to. They build shit, and stupid boomers still buy it. Last I talked to my dad "yeah you see those new bulged front trunnions?" until people stop buying their garbage rifles, they're never gonna bother making good ones.
+--- 57969911
+Rate my wasr.
+--- 57970551
+>>57965118
+Turkish Airlines can offer you some.
+--- 57970850
+How are Izhmash rifles? I didn't see them mentioned in >>57955460 
+really want an AK but I don't know dick and balls about them, really....
+--- 57970873
+>>57970850
+nvm am blind
+--- 57970924
+>>57964931
+He will be president in 2030
+--- 57972130
+Apparently I'm retarded, bought my first gun and it's got some weird shit on the side, is it salvageable? Everything I put on it sits high as fuck
+--- 57972171
+>>57972130
+Buy a new optic mount desu
+that one's FUBAR
+--- 57972207
+>>57969911
+Paint job and finish on handguards looks like literal vomit 0/10
+>>57972130
+Lol wtf is that shit
+--- 57972240
+>>57972207
+that is my buyers remorse good sir
+--- 57972271
+>>57972207
+Check out the inside
+--- 57972296
+>>57972207
+thanks, i used tattoo ink.
+--- 57972310
+>>57972271
+lmao ooof
+--- 57972319
+>>57972271
+What.
+--- 57972349
+>>57972310
+>>57972319
+i mean it cycles smooth aside from the aura of regret that surrounds it
+--- 57972359
+>>57972349
+yeah just the mongoloid who mounted that side piece lol. nuts n bolts on n ak is nigger tier
+--- 57972391
+>>57972359
+i think these are fucking locking automotive nuts too so this was some "handiman" fix thats gonna me a fucking pain in the ass to remove/fit something that covers the wounds
+--- 57972402
+>>57972271
+bubba done fucked you good
+--- 57972474
+Should I go for this as a replacement to my WASR-3? My WASR has some really wobbly mag retention, the drum for the windage is frozen in place along with this the rear sight or front is canted so I can't get a zero with the irons, and the gas block is canted that the piston scrapes as it moves.
+--- 57972498
+>>57972474
+No don’t waste your money on that shit. Get a Beryl or M90.
+--- 57972500
+>>57972391
+I had those sheer off studs when I was trying to remove the air filter in my car before.
+--- 57972520
+>>57972474
+>>57972498
+I forgot to add its basically at the price I paid for my WASR. Also it has the provisions for a muzzle device and Cugir in their infinite wisdom made the journal size too small to accept normal AK FSBs.
+--- 57972536
+>>57972520
+How much was your dollar worth when you bought the WASR compared to today?
+--- 57972596
+>>57972536
+I mean I bought in December so I would guess the same unless there was a financial collapse this morning.
+--- 57972667
+>>57969911
+looks like someone fed hair and grass to a dog until it took a shit
+--- 57972709
+>tfw don’t want to shoot newly converted Saiga 103 and 104 clones anymore after getting them back because MUH VALUE
+I hate myself
+--- 57972737
+>>57972474
+sounds like you got a bad wasr. there's one in every crate so someone has to get the short straw. Only thing actually wrong with it is windage drum is frozen. that can be fixed with a propane torch, a c clamp, and 2 breaker bars, bring a friend. besides that, no I would not replace a wasr with any american made ak. I would replace a wasr with another wasr, with a yugo, or with a hungarian build. Don't buy domestic, always buy import
+
+pic related is a wasr front sight where the windage drum was frozen like yours. so dad and I blasted it with propane and beat on it like gorillas in between sluggin busch lites. Got it free'd up in an afternoon, and blued in less. Wasrs might be scuffed around the edges, but you can use them like fucking shovels if you wanted to.
+--- 57972746
+>>57972709
+if you got money to flaunt on shit like that, just buy a beater yugo/wasr and get your shooting tism out on it.
+--- 57972781
+>>57955451 (OP)
+What's a good way to mount a dot to my ak? I know what they are but I don't want to buy one that's of shit quality y'know?
+--- 57972820
+>>57972781
+midwest industries makes good mounts. I have one for my M90. It's solid and is low over the dust cover
+--- 57972863
+>>57972820
+I have a midwest for my Zpap as well.
+--- 57972998
+>>57972781
+Feel like a cheapskate for wince at the prices they have for mounts.
+--- 57973082
+>>57972781
+spongebob tape
+--- 57973085
+>>57972998
+the clones work good too
+
+https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KSNHSDF
+this one might be loose but if you get it tighten the bolt on it and it works like a charm
+
+obviously youll be judged by purist because they always do that tho
+--- 57973368
+So after finding absolutely nothing on it besides KalashnikovUSAs installation video and initial trailer for its announcement, I decided to say fuck it and be a first gen guinea pig. I bought the Barwarus Alpha-1 rail KUSA is selling on their website. It's a cope clone of Zenitcos B-30 lower/B-31 upper handguard set for $289 instead of Zenitcos $500+. Claims are that its cast aluminum turkshit, and I guess I will find out if it holds up or not. It looks nice, and I can take that extra $200 and buy a WML tapswitch kit.
+--- 57973384
+>>57956691
+Msterbated
+--- 57973542
+>>57973368
+Aesthetically decent in my opinion. hope it works well for you.
+--- 57973583
+Should I buy a Beryl in 5.56? I just like it
+--- 57973609
+>>57973583
+If you can find one in stock yes.
+--- 57974189
+>>57973384
+Cute cartoons
+--- 57974274
+>>57973609
+I heard AoA is gonna be getting them in may, but you inspired me anon, thank you. Between the weaver or picatinny optic rail the better option? I don’t know shit about weaver
+--- 57974614
+>>57973368
+kek, my zenitco hardguards were that price when we were able to buy them, feelsgood
+--- 57974791
+AK Mag tribute to Armatard for all the shills he mind broke
+--- 57974835
+>>57974614
+Yeah, I chose a bad time to grow out of my wood only AKs phase. Why is it that you hardly ever see people who have zenitco use picrail covers? I'm going to find some aesthetic, comfy rail covers and cover all the rails that aren't being used for a WML w/switch and a foregrip. I'm making a poverty Alpha clone out of an Arsenal 107CR that is going to have an extended cncwarrior 4 piece flash hider pinned and welded on.
+--- 57974850
+>>57974747
+everyone and their mother has been going to idaho for the past 5 years they have to be unironically full. CDA was the only area worth a shit and it's definitely full by now.
+--- 57974878
+>>57974835
+Yea not for sure why people don't run pic covers, 
+I went with b30u and b31 whatever can remember the names anymore for weight reduction, quite comfy though
+--- 57974993
+>>57974747
+>sorry bro we’re full
+--- 57975034
+>>57974878
+So you're the one guy Zenitco makes green for. You're not as sick as that bastard desert tan guy.
+--- 57975044
+>>57975034
+>bastard desert tan guy
+I bought it by mistake thinking it was golden khaki ;__;
+--- 57975081
+>>57974791
+Anon, i...
+--- 57975143
+>>57975081
+>get called Armatard 
+>make all caps ESL post to act like Armatards style and make fun of your ESL at the same time 
+>2 years later shills still seething about it
+Hence why Armatard gets a mag tribute for mind breaking shills
+--- 57975189
+>>57972596
+Whoever sold you that WASR obviously knew what a piece of shit it was to sell it to you so cheap, so unfortunately, don't expect there to be decent alternatives at the same price point you got screwed over in lol. Case in point: the PSAK101 you're looking at. Other than PSA having quality issues throughout their entire AK history, that model in particular has given many people problems, including some here. So either heed our warnings or don't, I don't really care, it's your money and it means more imports for us lol.
+--- 57975199
+>>57968967
+>The PSL has never been worth its price
+Disagree.
+
+The first couple import waves 10-20 years ago were a pretty good value but times were very different.
+
+7.62x54R of all kinds was one of the most plentiful and cheap rounds you could get back then.
+
+There was zero hope for any future imports of any actual SVD variants, civvie DMR-spec AR-10s were almost as expensive and rare as a real SVD and had basically no aftermarket.
+
+Most of the other semi DMR platforms on the civvie market at the time were either more expensive and less well supported than the AR-10 and/or were horrible quality kit builds. 
+
+Meanwhile most new PSLs being sold at the time came with the brand new original factory LPS optic, sling and 4-cell mag pouch fully loaded with brand new matching mags pre-fitted to the gun plus the cleaning kit, went for $700 or so and could be found everywhere.
+--- 57975236
+>>57972709
+Nigga who the fuck cares. My mak 90 was 30 years old brand new in the fucking box and I got a great spiker conversion on it but I still ripped corrosive thru it. If you're autistic enough over getting them properly converted, I doubt you're gonna sell them even if the chips are down lol.
+--- 57975299
+>>57972474
+No experience with KUSA's 101, but the KR-103 I got form them runs great. Why not.
+--- 57975342
+>>57975143
+>it was real in my head
+--- 57975383
+Why was everyone on this board saying I shouldn't get a Zhukov buttstock?
+
+I ended up getting one anyway and it's probably the best sidefolder on the market. Lightweight, folds to the right, and has normal sling and QD attachment points. Seems like some people on here just denounce anything that isn't a combloc pattern/triangle sidefolder out of hand.
+--- 57975418
+>>57974274
+Not him but I concur, beryls are great. An Eotech can mount directly to the weaver rail without adapters, so there's that. It also sits lower than the pic rail, but it's still prob gonna be a chin weld for you lol. However, there's a channel thru the pic rail that allows you to use the irons which is pretty neat.
+--- 57975432
+>>57968967
+>its enourmous flaws
+Like what?
+
+The only big issues I can see are that regularly shooting heavy ball through it will wear it out quickly and it suffers from the typical AK midget ergos.
+
+Performance has been proven to be literally just as good as a Dragunov in the hands of a competent shooter using the appropriate ammo.
+
+People forget that the Dragunov is typically only good for about 2 MOA even with the 7N1 rounds it was designed to shoot. They both were weapons designed to be issued out to regular conscripts and expected to take the same kind of abuseand round counts as any other regular infantry weapon, not the bespoke 1/10 MOA bench blasters for Tier 0 Western units that can easily afford to keep them immaculate and completely rebuild the system every couple hundred rounds.
+--- 57975507
+>>57974835
+>I chose a bad time to grow out of my wood only AKs phase
+Nah, you were simply a faggot this entire time and came out of the closet.
+--- 57975508
+>>57975143
+You are still using your phone and PC at the same time to make threads and posts >>57975137
+--- 57975559
+is it just me or are modern AK's the total-antithesis of what the AK was supposed to be? Every fucking AK now is a "craftsman quality" rifle that costs 1500+ each, which isn't what the AK was. I refuse to buy an AK until there's a "combat quality" version for $500 or less. AK's were meant to be assembled by slaves and the price would reflect that; that's no longer the case. 
+
+I'd rather buy a beat up chinese AK because thats the true spirit of what the AK was meant to be. Anyone that drops 2000 on a "high quality american made AK" should be shot
+--- 57975577
+>>57974835
+Rail covers are for gear queers. You look like giant faggot who enjoys throwing money down the shitter with them.
+--- 57975586
+>>57975432
+>regularly shooting heavy ball through it will wear it out quickly and it suffers from the typical AK midget ergos.
+No, even while shooting light ball you could crack the receiver, the gas hole is too big so it's extremely overgassed etc, look at this
+https://youtu.be/cMKkUJqx8qQ [Embed]
+--- 57975622
+>>57975432
+>Dragunov is typically only good for about 2 MOA even with the 7N1 rounds it was designed to shoot
+We had some svd owners disprove this here in the past. Pic rel was made with cheap chinese ammo
+1/2
+--- 57975627
+>>57975559
+Not really, there's a lot of variety out there. AKs of all kinds.
+
+Want a cheap AK for $400? WASR, PA, etc. got you covered.
+
+Mid-range AK for ~$900? Zastava and KUSA are in your league.
+
+Want to blow a bunch of money on an AK being sold for way too much? (~$2000) Arsenal and some others do that.
+--- 57975640
+>>57975622
+2/2
+--- 57975671
+>>57975432
+And pic rel was made by that vintage shooter guy on yt with a FEG18 which is just russian SVDs with their markings erased achieving under 1 MOA at 700y.
+What remains unanswered is if PSL suffer all these issuesfrom poor builders or they are all like this.
+--- 57975674
+>>57975189
+I got it off gun broker, nobody bid on it because the guy had dog shit boomer photos and labelled the gun in a fucked up way that it didn't show up in search results.
+
+>>57975299
+That is a PSA anon, not a KUSA
+--- 57975692
+>>57972474
+I concur with
+>>57975299
+
+I got a KR-103 a year ago and it's excellent quality.
+
+Better fit and finish and way less slop in the action than any other US made AK I've ever used and most surplus builds besides maybe the old super-fuckspensive Arsenals and bespoke custom builds that both cost like twice as much and perform exactly the same.
+
+Christened it by blasting two spamcans worth of Belarussian surplus through it with no cleaning and had zero jams, FTEs, FTFs or other malfunctions.
+--- 57975697
+>>57975507
+The war in Ukraine has made polymer furniture and zenitco rails aesthetic
+--- 57975706
+>>57975692
+God I wish I wasn't allergic to cats
+--- 57975710
+>>57975627
+you're a fucking retard. show me a SINGLE functional WASR for $400, i'll wait all night. 
+
+your information is straight out of 2001
+--- 57975755
+>>57975674
+You can get a better quality albeit blemished AK from KUSA for $900. Pay another $200 and you get a brand new AK-103 clone with sidefolder and all.
+--- 57975765
+>>57975299
+>>57975692
+It isn't a KUSA in that anon's pic, he was asking about the PSA AK101 AKM
+--- 57975774
+>>57975755
+That is in 7.62 anon and the rifle posted is a 5.56.
+
+>>57975692
+Again that is a KUSA gun and the one posted was a PSA though
+--- 57975791
+>>57975674
+My statement still applies. You should know that gunbroker boomers are typically the biggest kikes, and I guarantee you if that wasr 3 was fine and zeroable he would have tried to sell it for AT LEAST $1000. If you're patient, you might find gems every now and then on there, but generally, if it's too good to be true, it prob ain't. But if ur dead set on a PSAK101 then go for it so we can add you to the statistics lol, or be satisfied with it and get other ledditors to buy those instead. Either is a win.
+--- 57975855
+>>57975697
+I don't own an AK but if I had to choose my first AK it would be a 103 with plum or birch furniture
+--- 57975910
+>>57975855
+Closest thing you can get in the US to an ak103 would be an sgl21-94. I prefer the sgl31-94 which is the ak74m clone since the ak74m is more commonly used in Ukraine.
+--- 57975974
+>>57975855
+Why not get an import for the same price
+--- 57976036
+I appreciate the amount of work that these guys seem to do on their AKs but 3K for Romanian/Polish parts, man...
+https://youtu.be/HHdzAP6yz0g [Embed]
+--- 57976078
+>>57975697
+Agree, the AKs with electronic scopes and such can look correct now
+--- 57976091
+Dude, just buy a psak.
+--- 57976117
+>>57975640
+Cool photo
+--- 57976176
+Yeah, good luck finding either
+--- 57976223
+>>57975586
+Light ball meaning sub-150gr. A lot of the more common older surplus "light ball" 54R is 150gr on the dot or a little over which is out of spec for the PSL.
+
+Yes some of the very first-wave Century guns had US-built gas systems and bolt assemblies for 922r compliance instead of the guns' original ones that were often way out of spec and didn't work well with anything.
+
+You can also just not be retarded and get a $75 KNS adjustable gas piston which allows you to shoot whatever you want.
+
+>>57975671
+>>57975622
+Cool, I can make my PSL group like that too if I benchrace it at a known distance from a cold barrel like the shooter in those pics looks like they're doing.
+
+Now let me see what what range and position that group was done from and if they can achieve those same kinds of results with an actual stock military SVD on a course of fire more demanding and realistic than slow-firing a couple 3-5 round groups from a prepared static prone or seated supported position at large static hi-vis targets on a wide open KD range under ideal weather conditions with no time limit.
+--- 57976316
+>>57972130
+damn is that an Arsenal ‘classic’, kek boomers
+--- 57976357
+>>57975640
+>>57975622
+
+More inclined to believe the Soviet Afghan vet who regularly used the SVD under actual combat conditions and tested the PSL similarly than some random hobby shooter going off a rest at a KD range with a pristine rifle desu.
+https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/psl-76254r-a-soviet-snipers-view-of-the-famed-romanian-rifle/331799
+
+Also PSL is confirmed to be more rugged than the SVD since it's just a big AK and it still costs only a fraction of the pric even nowadays that PSL prices have almost tripled in the last decade
+--- 57976485
+>>57975765
+>>57975774
+>>57975299
+>>57975674
+I thought PSA farmed out a lot of their AK manufacturing to KUSA. So much so that one is basically just a rebrand of the other IIRC.
+--- 57976515
+>>57976485
+????
+--- 57976558
+>>57975671
+Most of the "PSL inaccurate, Dragunov way better" stuff is basically internet Fuddlore started by an old IV8888 video on the PSL from like a decade ago before he got really big where he shoots like absolute garbage with horrible technique the whole time and blames the rifle.
+
+He's retroactively admitted the shitty groups were his fault since then after getting absolutely dragged by hundreds of people in the video's comments.
+--- 57976586
+>>57976515
+>>57976573
+Actually I think it was vice versa where KUSA was outsourcing to PSA for their AK-100 series parts.
+--- 57976602
+>>57976485
+PSA manufactures just about all of the parts for their guns in house iirc. KUSA manufactures some shit with their cnc subsidiary I believe and outsourced MIM to other companies as well as with accessories. PSA Internals on their 100 series is literally just their akm internals and a shitty copy of the 4.5mm folder from bulgaria. Kusa uses correct 100 series internals with bump rivet and all, including 5.5mm rear trunnion
+--- 57976639
+>>57976602
+Good to know.
+
+Glad I didn't heed all the posters telling me to "just buy a PSA, it's the same thing but cheaper" when I bought my KR-103 a year ago.
+--- 57976675
+>>57956116
+Depending on the qc done on the rifle you buy it can be good or bad. If it is your first ak, go for an import or 2 (Zastava, Wasr 10, or WBP) first. Great thing is they don't use cast trunnions anymore and moreso seem to be following the general game plan as psa.
+--- 57976705
+>>57976675
+Gotta make sure it's one of the new WASR-10s if you go that route.
+
+The old Century WASRs were infamous for how bad their QC and build quality was. You were considered lucky if you got one of those that had a front sight on straight enough to be able to even halfway zero it.
+--- 57976706
+>>57976485
+>>57976602
+Yeah this reeks of bullshit. A bunch of their parts aren't even interchangeable.
+
+I bought a KR-103 and replaced every part on that thing save what was riveted to the receiver, and the barrel. I ordered some replacement parts like a gas tube from PSA, and they weren't interchangeable. I had to email KUSA for the parts I wanted, which then immediately fit like a glove. Their parts tolerances are clearly different.
+--- 57976932
+>>57975383
+does it have solid lockup and stuff? How's the cheek hight with that red dot? I've been looking at them myself. Might toss that and some Houge handguards an old SAR-1 but I'm torn between the zhukov and leaving the original wood on it.
+--- 57976956
+>>57976705
+Half the fun of getting a WASR is doing the old Vice n' Iron Pipe front sight adjustment. Got mine back in 2008 and spent the afternoon with my dad pushing out sight pins and putting my full weight on the end of a iron pipe on top of a pipe wrench around the front sight as my dad got progressively drunk from tall boy coors while shit talking me for not getting a straight American made rifle instead. The window shaking CRACK the gun made when the front sight budged 1/10th of an inch nearly made him fall backward out of his chair. Then redrilling the front sight pin holes with a rickety drill press using old motor oil as cutting fluid. Good times
+
+
+Here she is. Been ringing gongs circa 2008 with this bad bitch.
+--- 57976985
+>>57976932
+It's honestly great. The lockup when it's extended is extremely solid, it locks in the folded position as well, but it's a soft lock, so you can quickly deploy it without pushing anything. Still shoots while folded too, despite folding to the right.
+
+I find the cheek-weld to be really good as well, even with the Eotech. I had riser on the stock to raise it a bit, but I took it off because it was just unnecessary.
+
+Last hog hunt I took this rifle on I got five all at once halfway across a field, so it's good in my books.
+--- 57977385
+>>57976558
+
+No, PSL is pretty janky
+--- 57977428
+>>57976558
+PSL is pretty shitty.
+--- 57977441
+>>57975791
+You are quite the smarmy little cunt.
+--- 57977496
+>>57977428
+>>57977385
+Who cares if they're shitty. The Remington 7400 is inaccurate as fuck, but it lobs a giant bullet in semi auto format and is probably top 3 deer murdering weapons of all time. We like it because it's cool and it's the rifle our grandpa used.
+--- 57977513
+>>57959954
+>only 30rd mags available
+>barrel would have to be totally custom
+--- 57977538
+>>57975640
+that looks like a very nice and fun range
+--- 57977540
+>>57960082
+2Rivers is owned by a cuck Rino who said the bump stock ban was good
+--- 57977555
+>>57962078
+>he pays taxes
+--- 57977646
+>>57968136
+Hence why the only legal MGs to own in 2023 are now pushing $10K+
+--- 57977692
+>>57977513
+45 rounds mags are available if you have money, Vepr 1v;s are available if you have money
+>>57977496
+no one cares
+--- 57977844
+>>57977692
+>Who cares if they're shitty it's about the cool factor
+
+'no one cares'
+
+Truly kill yourself.
+--- 57978066
+>>57977496
+The point was the issues weren't just fabricated by 1 cringe guntuber, but corroborated by another
+--- 57978366
+How did the VSKA pass a torture test? How did any Century? did they unlock the secret of being just good enough to do that then fail at 10,000?
+--- 57978395
+>>57955451 (OP)
+First for beryl?
+--- 57978413
+>>57978395
+Looks like every other beryl out there
+--- 57978423
+>>57978413
+Yeah, needs more cheese graterinos right?
+--- 57978513
+>>57975143
+pretending your mulitple days long mental episode on /k/ was just trolling isn't healthy and just sad
+now gtfo the thread
+--- 57978519
+>>57977844
+I meant no one cares about your faggot grandpa
+--- 57978520
+Gonna either get a top folding mossberg pump and put a heatshield and ghost rings on it, or gonna get akimbo bersa thrunder's with aquamarine grips on them and extended mags. what should I go with first? Also I will take tristar compact bullpup 12 gauge as an answer too. I never knew they bullpupped a saiga, but now I want one
+--- 57978642
+>>57977513
+>braindead
+--- 57978660
+time to drink anon is good for you drink up her you go have just one good anon take shot we have good day
+--- 57978804
+>>57978660
+taking one shot in your honor cheers to you
+--- 57978844
+>>57978520
+>Gonna either get a top folding mossberg pump
+Are you me? I've been eyeing this for months just for fun, I need to jurassic larp without spending much money
+--- 57978863
+>>57978513
+>>57975342
+>>57975081
+FYI schizos like this have an alert setup for the word Armatard. They are replying to this and seething about years old posts because I used that word.
+--- 57978957
+>>57978660
+I got so fucking PLASTERED over the weekend my friend and a couple of small Asian girls had to scrape me off the floor with a spoon. I would, but I'm gonna give my liver a rest until I'm finished with finals, then I'm gonna do it all over again in celebration lol.
+--- 57978989
+>>57978519
+big words for a faggot that nobody cares about
+--- 57979064
+>>57978863
+>people remember how i shat my pants in public
+>this means they gangstalk me and that they are seething
+You brought this shit here, there is no one else to blame for this but you. Now kindly leave and take your schizo ramblings with you.
+--- 57979100
+>>57979064
+>t. shill coming to the thread because the word Armatard was used
+Those AK mags are worth more than you right now on gunbroker btw
+--- 57979175
+>>57979100
+>continues to drag his shit filled pants over the thread while making gargling noises
+--- 57979190
+>>57979175
+>continues to not post his guns 
+This is a shill who is only in the thread due to the checksum of the image and/or the keyword Armatard. I’ll post a pic of the same Armachad arrangement of mags through night vision or thermal and not use the word Armatard in the post and this fag will be nowhere to be found just see.
+--- 57979196
+>>57979190
+You fling shit like you think you own the place
+--- 57979216
+>>57978863
+>>57978989
+>>57979064
+>>57979100
+>>57979175
+>>57979190
+>>57979196
+Please fuck off nobody cares here, take your makeout session to your tranny discord
+--- 57979247
+Damnit guys I keep finding shit I want but that I don't need to buy
+--- 57979281
+>>57979190
+Maybe it's bad idea in general to cheerlead some obnoxious loser who pissed off half of the board with his invasive 'Russia stronk' campaign in the last ten years?
+
+>>57979247
+Looks a bit like an AI made it, but i still kinda dig it.
+--- 57979321
+>>57979281
+>Looks a bit like an AI made it
+lol at this posters half-ass tries to participate in thread to legitimize his “Armatard” shilling, but is not familiar with US aftermarket firearm accessories lol
+--- 57979332
+New thread
+
+>>57979309 →
+>>57979309 →
+>>57979309 →
+--- 57979372
+>>57979321
+>if i change my post format, it will not look like i'm just one guy
+aM i dOING tHIS rIGHT?
+--- 57979398
+>>57979321
+>>Looks a bit like an AI made it
+But it does.
+--- 57979728
+>>57979190
+kek, frenchies btfo

k/57955698.txt

@@ -163,3 +163,153 @@ I'll be shooting up some opium later, tentatively, trying to not kill myself wit
 There are people outside my house now, protesting, chanting.... "Dry Bugs, Make Bongs Not Bombs!"
 
 Do you have any idea how I abuse my fame to get favours, sexual favours, from Helen Clark. I really do belong in a psych ward, if not a higher security ward or a prison
+--- 57968809
+Is checking the barrel of a firearm for obstructions or cleanliness via the muzzle always stupid? I don't see what's wrong with it if the action is open or even better the bolt out of the gun and you have triple checked that there is no way the gun could fire.
+--- 57968861
+>>57966856
+Not in and of itself. The projectiles are typically jacketed in copper and the primers are pretty much contained. Only issue is if it's dirty from having been shot since the residue has a little bit of lead in it, so clean after shooting before putting it under your pillow. Obviously you don't want to be huffing gun solvents either so don't leave it drenched in Hoppes #9 or too much oil. You can use canola oil as a lubricant as well, which is safer than some other oil types.
+>>57966678
+Chinese are capable of making good products if people are paying good money for them and they can't get away with shipping junk. Companies like Holosun and Primary Arms have them made in chine but QC here in the US and pay based on what passes the QC specs, so the Chinese are incentivised to not fuck around because it'll just mean they won't get paid.
+You can't trust Chinese manufacturers because their legal system effectively insulates them from the consequences of sending bad products, but if there's an existing relationship that's structured with accountability built in the product is typically fine. That's the difference between a good quality/value product that's Chinese made and one that's crap tier chinesium.
+>>57966664
+Yes, but thickness also determines what calibers it can tolerate/for how long at the expense of substantially increasing weight.
+All things being equal you want a nice thick AR500 that's also big and easy to haul. But it's not equal because you'll probably have to haul the heavy bitch to the range and back.
+
+Other than that, remember that steel core or bimetal jacketed projectiles can spark on impact. If shooting around dry grass that can start a fire.
+Shooting within ~25-35yd there's a risk of ricochets or spalling unless you use frangible ammunition.
+>>57966030
+I think some are US some are Swiss. I had one and it was US made.
+>>57965863
+Most likely either you picked up some bad habit or your rear sight got knocked off center.
+--- 57968870
+>>57968809
+It's fine. I do it all the time. Just like you said double/triple/quadruple that it's completely unloaded first.
+--- 57969182
+You know naval psychic warfare tried using x-rays on my house, the schizophrenia (it's such a big bad hairy one you know, keeps talking to hell, doesn't bat an eye when satan or the devil wander through) was just laughing and laughing and laughing... and I was just sitting there trying to ignore the x-rays.... it actually got quite embarrassing
+--- 57970465
+>>57955698 (OP)
+is it possible to salvage firearms you find magnet fishing? I only get blunt and sarcastic responses. If however you are knowledgeable and crafty, could you restore the weapon, or at the very least rebuild the weapon from the receiver or main body of the gun?
+--- 57970557
+>>57970465
+It's theoretically possible but the reason you're getting blunt and scarcastic responses is because it's extremely unlikely that you find a gun underwater that's in good enough condition to make it practical to restore it. The vast majority of the time the gun is beyond fucked.
+
+>is it possible to salvage cars you find at the bottom of a lake? I only get blunt and sarcastic responses. If however you are knowledgeable and crafty you could restore the car, or at the very least rebuild the car from the engine or the main body?
+--- 57970587
+>>57970465
+>>57956747
+the screw on the uzi lower makes it look like a replica, or at least deactivated. another example.
+
+a real one would work given the low amount of corrosion.
+as needed: rust soak, replace the springs, replace the barrel.
+
+
+or stop fantasizing and just get a parts kit and mckay receiver
+--- 57971003
+can someone smarter than me teach me how to build an ar........ Does the manufacturer of the upper/lower really matter all that much?
+--- 57971022
+>>57971003
+>upper/lower really matter all that much?
+No, as long as they fit together nicely and meet tolerance.
+--- 57971092
+>>57966074
+>>57968861
+the rear sight is still aligned from what I can tell, and my other handguns shoot just fine so it's not a skill issue
+>>57966105
+I tried 3 different barrels and none of them shoot straight
+
+I did recently swap out the recoil spring and guide rod on it, could those be fucking it up somehow?
+--- 57971104
+>>57971003
+Midway USA how to videos, as clear cut and succinct as you'll find out there.
+--- 57971724
+>>57955698 (OP)
+>>57970587
+Now that you mention it the barrel corrosion makes it look like it's aluminum or zamak
+--- 57973181
+>>57971003
+You buy the parts and put them together, there are youtube videos and stuff but everything is just kinda like legos. Only thing that requires an actual work bench is mounting a barrel to a handguard, but you can buy complete uppers. The rest is legitimately do it on your bed tier easy.
+>manufacturer of lower and upper
+I assume you mean the stripped receivers, not really. Cheaper shit like PSA or anderson will have less good QC on the finish they apply and I've seen issues of it being too thick and pins not fitting, but you can drill those out and make it work.
+--- 57973191
+>>57973181
+Oh, and you'll need a castle nut wrench but those are cheap.
+--- 57973999
+>>57970465
+Yes, but it depends how long they have been there and what replacement parts you have access to. Some rust can be cleaned off, but sometimes it's just eaten away too much to maintain the safe structural integrity of the weapon. Things like springs get fucked pretty badly too.
+There's also the issue that at the end of the day every gun is essentially a pressure vessel and how safe would you feel actually trying to shoot one after cleaning all the rust off? Sure a spot of rust on a sheet metal receiver of a blowback SMG isn't really that critical but what if the barrel is full of deep pitting? If It does shoot but the bore is so gone that it keyholes at 5 yards would you consider that restored, or even worth shooting?
+>>57971003
+Lower doesn't matter so long as it's aluminum and not plastic. They're broadly the same although you can save yourself a little bit of hair pulling by getting one that has a built in trigger guard and a threaded bolt release roll pin (knocking in the roll pins for bolt release and trigger guard is annoying as fuck), Aero M4E1 stripped lower is a good cheap example of what I'm talking about although it won't look "correct" if you are trying to make your rifle look like any specific M16/M4 setup.
+You can save some money putting the lower together yourself. It is relatively easy, requiring a buffer tube wrench and basic tools.
+
+Upper matters. Stripped upper receiver not so much, but for a beginner you're better off buying it already completed and the upper is where all the important stuff is. The quality of your barrel, bolt, bolt carrier, features like free floated barrel and ambidextrous charging handle can help too depending on how fancy you want to get. If It is a different make from the lower that doesn't matter at all since all AR-15 uppers and lowers mate with each other although mixing brands can rattle a little bit (you can fix it with an accu-wedge or just a little bit of electric tape).
+--- 57976075
+>>57973999
+>>57973181
+>>57971104
+>>57971022
+Thanks for the advice. Also, although its probably too early to ask, what sort of accessories should I get? As in flashlights/lasers, grips, furniture, etc, etc. I don't want to go out to a range or anything and look like a complete retard who doesn't know shit about guns lol (even though i am). This is one reason I've been putting off getting an AR for so long
+--- 57976297
+Any strong preference for local gun stores vs. a chain place? The latter is a little bit more expensive for range time, especially targets, but the gun prices seem about identical and the latter frankly seems better on ammo
+--- 57976382
+>>57976075
+As a rule, for a fighting rifle, you need a flashlight, optic, and sling in descending order of importance. In a civilian context the sling is kind of optional but if you ever see yourself carrying the rifle its a big help. I'll give a basic rundown for a general civilian rifle, other people need other things and you'll figure it out if you become one of those other people but this setup is for a good foundational starter rifle.
+>light 
+Good normal format light is the Streamlight HLX but olight, surefire, Cloud Defensive, modlite, arasaka, and inforce all have good offerings depending on your preference. You can mount a pistol light on your rifle but the switch placement isn't great.
+>optic
+red dot is probably the best option. Sig MSR is the absolute cheapest I'd go, the Romeo 5 and Holosun's offerings have some more features. Aimpoint is the most respected but they're really expensive. Magpul polymer mbus are fine for buis, which are probably a good idea if you're going with one of the cheaper dots. 
+>sling
+the meta is a 2 point quick adjust like the slingster, onward research, blue force gear, and magpul offerings attached with QD swivels.
+>furniture
+Generally try to get light stuff, but it doesn't matter nearly as much as some people make it out to. If you're gun has an old school fixed sight post and drop in handguard, the magpul MOE stuff is quality, affordable, and you can mount your light to the handguard. You might want a free floated handguard that won't flex the barrel and will make the gun more accurate, just get an mlok rail like picrel.
+
+As for other shit, only put it once you realize a need for it. Strapping shit to your rifle is a good way to make it heavier and worse.
+Also here's a video that says basically what I just said if you want to watch it, luckygunner has a bunch of good stuff for practical civilian stuff.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6toTXhqgB0 [Embed]
+--- 57976409
+>>57956816
+Honestly, the fact that you understand some of the things they talk about, and have shared experiences is worth their weight in gold. 
+
+Remember, half the problem with the military is deprograming, and/or never having a reason to talk about things you are masters in.
+--- 57976668
+>>57959437
+potassium nitrate IS a salt
+--- 57976696
+>>57968403
+haha saved the APC but the entire INF squad around it is pureed
+--- 57977269
+>>57955698 (OP)
+I've started training daily with my air rifle to make up for the fact the range is 40 minutes away and hard to get to regularly. I train with an iron sighted red Ryder in my house at a max distance of about 15 to 20 yards. Are there any ways I can get more out of it? It's certainly helped my fundamentals already. Picrel b4 someone ignores the question and call me a noguns
+--- 57977432
+>>57977269
+airguns can teach weak grips because there's no need to control recoil.
+I pass my drives listening to audiobooks. I buy a visa gift card and sign up for a prime then audible trial, for 2 books. Sometimes you can get a 3rd from libro.fm Spend the card balance on gas.
+--- 57977595
+>>57977432
+Would the recoil inducing ones or a death grip mitigate that? I do the same on long drives, even have a note pad for when I'm at the lights and hear something valuable. The issue is not the drive though, more I don't have time to go with work and obligations as often as I'd like
+--- 57978259
+Is /k/s love of Beretta pistols mainly an aesthetic thing or is there something Im missing?
+--- 57978292
+>>57977269
+I hope you have a good soft target for that Red Ryder. Fucking BBs bounce like nuts. A 2100 or 880 wouldn't be a bad choice either. Probably more accurate than the Red Ryder, though I'm not sure at that kind of distance. Just beware pump bb/pellet rifles have like 3x the power of the Red Ryder so don't have a shitty backstop.
+
+Shoot outside if you can but make sure you're not going to get dicked legally for doing so. Steel targets (PELLET ONLY, NO BBs) can break up the monotony when all you have to shoot is paper. As can things like printed out targets of squirrels, etc.
+--- 57978433
+>>57978259
+They are fairly good shooting guns from the factory, respond really well to upgrades like the stuff from LTT, and are different enough from the mainstream glock clones that you can be a special snowflake with one.
+--- 57978596
+>>57955698 (OP)
+I've been considering a .45 version of my carry handgun, however that means I'll be limited to 10rds and will need to replace my mag holders for my holster. 
+
+Is the switch to .45 worth these downsides? The 9mm version is cheaper so is carrying 9mm better than carrying .45?
+--- 57978634
+>>57978596
+They're all the same in the eyes of shooting data. 9 is generally cheaper, easier to shoot, smaller and this makes shooting more and often easier. Do with that what you will.
+--- 57978889
+>>57970587
+>stop fantasizing and just get a parts kit
+>parts kit
+FIVE HUNDRED FUCKIN' DOLLARS
+FOR TORCH CUT STAMPED STEEL AND A 1.5" SQUARE, FOUR INCH LONG BLOCK OF 4140 MILLED OUT INTO A FUNNY SHAPE.
+--- 57980075
+>Chopped up toy cap firing M16
+why? also UK i'm guessing

k/57956643.txt

@@ -877,3 +877,278 @@ people like to repeat this even though there's no evidence for it because it too
 >>57968374
 >>57968429
 I'll probably look for a used one in that case, I should be able to find something before it gets cool again
+--- 57968692
+I haven't bought new clothing in the last 5 years
+--- 57968755
+>>57968480
+Thats a good option too.
+--- 57969225
+>>57961328
+Fuck. I saw a good greentext or blacktext rant about this guy's story but I didn't save it.
+Like he was active special forces but wearing civvies IDK.
+--- 57969369
+>>57969225
+retarded newfag
+--- 57969696
+>>57965013
+
+How are you this autistic? Do you actually not know what she was doing?
+--- 57969779
+>>57969696
+Not every woman is flirting with you, anon. Some of them are just cunts.
+--- 57970076
+>>57956643 (OP)
+Nah.
+But I do look like a power ranger every time I go out on the bike.
+--- 57970109
+>>57956752
+>>57962618
+
+Hey can I marry you I’m also an autistic gun nerd who likes dudes :)
+--- 57970127
+>>57963233
+Idk I’ve been here for like 4-5 years, I feel like I’ve seen enough people blow their head off with a shotgun but I guess I missed a few.
+--- 57970160
+>>57963372
+I was in those kinds of groups, very happy I never turned out like that. They always try to do their best to troon you, I personally had to deal with maybe 6 or so partners when I was a kid who were older than me, never fucked because I knew something wasn’t right but was never able to put my finger on it until I was older. Happy I waited to do stuff with someone I’m now planning to marry. 
+
+I’m into dudes but I always was, but it’s very weird being surrounded by whores when you just want a husband and a home lol
+--- 57970219
+>>57956643 (OP)
+No, I look like a dumpy farmer with jeans and flannel.
+--- 57970559
+>>57956735
+How long have you been a street mime?
+--- 57970969
+>>57957967
+based and hard-target-pilled. Keep terrifying normies, nogs, and LE wherever you go and look fucking cool doing it.
+--- 57970994
+>>57956697
+Literally nobody has time to give a shit about you.
+--- 57971550
+>>57956643 (OP)
+I went clothes shopping over the weekend and picked up some pants, mostly grey and earth tones. Next will pick up comfy shoes in exclusively black and white tones as I always do.
+--- 57971573
+>>57963558
+>schizo-tier
+--- 57971617
+Why can't you faggots just wear jeans?
+--- 57971628
+>>57971617
+Because jeans are uncomfortable?
+--- 57971755
+>>57957646
+There is way too much video evidence, my dude.
+--- 57971776
+>>57963558
+This fat nigga is the NAFO poster LMAO
+--- 57971801
+>>57971617
+They're uncomfortable. I will not fall for the jeans psyop.
+--- 57971828
+>>57971755
+Racist evidence!
+--- 57971865
+>he doesn't wear a neatly-tucked white shirt and dress slacks with all of his gear concealed on him using mid-gray (to hide better) molle lingerie and thin-but-enlongated bags and a perfectly concealed custom holster at 1 o'clock that is supported by the entire rig (suspended from shoulders with waistbands and other bands for support).
+--- 57971873
+>>57971628
+>>57971801
+>he doesn't wear %1 elastic, 99% cotton jeans
+>he still wears lame ass 100% cotton
+
+lol
+--- 57971893
+>>57971873
+see
+>>57959573
+fuck pants!
+--- 57971899
+>>57971873
+I wear slacks, chinos, hiking, and work pants. Jeans that actually look good are tight in the crotch. No amount of elastic improves the inherent problems with the design. Also cotton sucks.
+--- 57971933
+>>57960223
+>dozens of dozens of accounts of it happening spread over the course of years
+Do you understand how insignificant this is? You sound worse than senile democrat fearmongers afraid that they're going to get gunned down randomly by a scary black rifle because there are a few hundred murders a year with rifles. If you're actually trying to be aware of things that can harm you in public a random nigger punching you from behind is so extremely low on the list that it's not even worth mentioning unless you live in Detroit or something. Your fear is downright autistic.
+--- 57971941
+>>57957834
+extremely based
+--- 57971979
+>>57971899
+Quite being such a big baby.
+--- 57972001
+>>57971979
+No. If we all agree to stop having our balls pinched by (((jeans))) they will fall out of style and something better can take their place.
+--- 57972064
+>>57956643 (OP)
+>Do you really dress like this, /k/?
+not anymore
+--- 57972072
+>>57971873
+I wear like 60/40. They feel like they're damn nearly yoga pants but look like jeans.
+--- 57972298
+>>57970109
+I’m literally going to put on my profile that I like shooting antique guns, both so it gets this type, and scares off people who think I’m robbery/kidnapping material
+--- 57972339
+>>57956735
+>invicta
+get a casio if you want to be a cheap fag.
+preferably with marlin.
+--- 57972343
+>>57956643 (OP)
+what's the problem with bringing a pocketknife,small flashlight and pen?
+--- 57972406
+>>57972064
+--- 57972446
+>>57956735
+sneed?
+--- 57972470
+>>57972343
+Wtf is Camden Town
+--- 57972577
+>>57972001
+Nah man jeans can be comfy as fuck, you just gotta look around and spend a bit of money on something that actually fits you well, also quit being a bitch and try the tighter fits. A nicely worn in regular or slim with proper balls to pants chemistry is extremely comfortable and still gives you room to move and breathe without having some baggy-ass pants slapping against you constantly. Bitches also dig it.
+--- 57973640
+Pretty much exclusively jeans and a solid color T-shirt. Tucked in if I’m wearing my flannel. Sometimes beanie, sometimes normie ballcap. Normie shoes/danners depending on what I’m doing that day. If I’m innawoods 45 is on my hip. If I’m innatown its AIWB. So far I’ve been able to maintain this comfortably any season. But I’m also PNW so it doesn’t get too crazy.
+--- 57973660
+>>57973640
+Silly mobile images.
+--- 57973676
+>>57959810
+>I hope you get mutilated in an accident
+Why need an accident when he's going to do it to himself, or already has
+--- 57973677
+Should I wear my plate carrier to the grocery store?
+--- 57973872
+>>57961189
+Well, no. Most of humanity from early millennials on in general doesn't know how to adult. Fashion is the smallest part of the problem.
+--- 57973939
+I dress like the bad guy from an 80s teen movie. Picrel is not me.
+--- 57973951
+>>57973939
+I also use computers like the bad guy from an 80s teen movie, apparently.
+--- 57973966
+>>57956643 (OP)
+Shorts and my glock nigger carried
+--- 57974000
+>>57965523
+unironically good for concealed carry.
+--- 57974031
+>>57956994
+At least the boots actually look like regular black shoes and not uniform boots straight out of AR 670-1
+--- 57974053
+>>57962175
+Not new. In cold weather conditions cotton that gets wet, either through perspiration or rain/snow, loses its ability to keep you warm and can actually begin to make you colder. Something to keep in mind if, say, you’re backpacking in the winter.
+--- 57974072
+>>57961189
+No
+--- 57974132
+No I dress like pic related
+People don't mind a cowboy larper, it's tacticool shit that puts them on edge whether they're consciously aware or not
+Same thing with open carrying, a cool single action six shooter has a novelty factor while any sort of black gun will mark you as at-risk
+--- 57974267
+>>57960850
+you're a big guy
+--- 57974292
+>>57974267
+https://i.4cdn.org/k/1682356341962173m.jpg
+--- 57974301
+>>57974267
+Yep
+--- 57975158
+>>57956643 (OP)
+i dress even more autistically than this, with bloused boots and laces untucked
+--- 57975197
+>>57974072
+>gorou
+need him [as a battle companion]
+--- 57975304
+>>57963207
+>I own 6 pairs of these and they are all I wear 
+>They are stretchy 
+holy based, I know how you feel. I discovered the Prana© Stretch™ Zion Slim II® a few months ago and haven't looked back since.
+--- 57975425
+>>57969225
+--- 57975469
+>>57956643 (OP)
+I wear Lowa Zephyrs, cargo pants, Mexican carry a Glock 26, loose shirt, and my jelly rolls conceal my gun under my Dunlop. I’m working towards an under the moob pistol holster and magazine compartment. Get on my level.
+--- 57975475
+>>57956643 (OP)
+>wears that belt
+>wears 5.11 pants in regular shades because I got too used to cargo pockets
+>wears regular hiking boots
+>no sunglasses or dip can
+>wears regular polos and button up fishing shirts
+I'd like to think it's not completely obvious.
+--- 57975520
+>>57975197
+Textbook example of can’t dress like a normal adult to save his life
+--- 57975544
+>>57973951
+You look like you could kick my ass at a game of lawn polo.
+--- 57975563
+Just the peepaw wranglers and suspenders. Usually a .38 under my shirt.
+--- 57975851
+>>57956643 (OP)
+>Getting dressed
+Why?
+--- 57976595
+>>57973951
+>trousers at half mast
+>no socks
+No, you dress like a faggot.
+--- 57976624
+>>57961189
+No
+--- 57976778
+>>57976624
+I want that multicam schoolgirl uniform!
+--- 57976803
+>>57975851
+Based Hef
+--- 57976955
+>>57975851
+Based and gooberpilled
+--- 57977176
+>>57967848
+>>57967874
+--- 57978531
+>>57959573
+Okay but why the (adult?) diapers?
+--- 57979766
+>>57972470
+Party region of London equivalent to Williamsburg brooklyn
+--- 57979814
+>>57957646
+>>>57957431
+>>knockout game
+>>believing the "Democrat-run cities" meme
+>>falling for propaganda designed to target boomers with dementia
+>ngmi
+--- 57979821
+>>57956697
+Nobody cares, Anon. That was a meme all along
+--- 57980225
+>>57962323
+Pathetic
+--- 57980238
+>>57956643 (OP)
+Cruising outfit
+--- 57980244
+>>57972343
+I'll never not find it funny that this dude's doing a greyman larp in fucking London. What's he got, a tactical spoon?
+--- 57980278
+>>57960043
+Gen4 brother
+--- 57980327
+>>57956643 (OP)
+Pic related all year long because I'm not American.
+--- 57980385
+>>57980327
+>can only afford one outfit
+grim
+--- 57980431
+>>57980385
+I can't afford looking like a retard.
+--- 57980449
+>>57957834
+Summer variant

k/57957788.txt

@@ -197,3 +197,148 @@ I doubt Hornady was doing anything unsafe in T/C and Ruger Blackhawks when they
 --- 57968097
 >>57961593
 Very true. .38 special is my John Lennon solver after all.
+--- 57970339
+Why don't we see more bottlenecked pistol cartridges?
+--- 57970481
+>>57961469
+retard
+--- 57970495
+thank you for making a .357mag thread. it is my main cartridge.
+--- 57970619
+>>57970339
+There really isn't a point. As you bottleneck a cartridge your most effective barrel length goes up for a given chamber pressure. It just isn't worth it for pistols.
+--- 57970663
+>>57962227
+I like both :D
+--- 57971125
+>>57970619
+Sure, but if you gain more velocity(you do) thanks to greater case capacity for a given caliber, then is it really pointless?
+Inefficient relative to the amount of powder used, sure, but pointless is not the word I would use.
+--- 57971171
+>>57971125
+You only get more velocity if you increase pressure for a given barrel length. Otherwise the force*distance equation is the same.
+--- 57971226
+>>57971171
+Anon, your peak pressure is always reached by the time the bullet begins engraving.
+You gain more velocity from a longer barrel, but two cartridges of the same caliber with the same barrel length, one with greater case capacity, one with lesser, the one with greater capacity will zing the same bullet faster. 
+There's simply more energy potential to perform work in the larger amount of powder, and both cartridges reach peak pressure right once the bullet is engraving.
+--- 57971390
+>>57957788 (OP)
+>zamak and bakelite
+
+what fucking year is this
+--- 57971405
+>>57961593
+its so funny that anti-lennon memes and posts only started popping up on /k/ AFTER the memes became stale on discord servers.
+--- 57971418
+>>57962404
+you can do that with an automatic, btw
+--- 57971885
+>>57971226
+Reloading straight wall cartridges is super easy and they last forever. I am shooting full power stuff and yet I have cases that I stopped bothering to count the number of reloads through them after the 8th one. Plus this is a revolver cartridge, so any increase in case diameter is going to mean less cartridges in the cylinder. If alternate reality 357 mag had a bottleneck I would have chosen a different cartridge in that timeline.
+--- 57972027
+>>57971226
+>Anon, your peak pressure is always reached by the time the bullet begins engraving. 
+No it's not. Post distance plotted GRT/QL pressure plots. if your pressure curve is the same (same peak, same total distance(barrel length)), the total work on the bullet is the same. A larger case volume only helps if you can use a slower powder because if you use the same fastness of power, your peak pressure increases because there is more of it, but the bullet is the same. 
+Compare an equivalent case fill of a given powder for a bottlenecked vs equal length non-bottleneck cartridge.
+--- 57972054
+>>57971418
+Not for multiple shots
+--- 57972371
+>>57972027
+Anon, those charts that QL shows clearly demonstrate when peak pressure is reached, it happens less than 1 inch, ONE INCH into the barrel.
+Pressure is not the only factor here, you could chop 16 inches of barrel off of this and you will still have a cartridge that is moving a 180gr bullet at 1500fps.
+357 mag can't do that with 12 inches of barrel, let alone 4 inches.
+The more powder you have thanks to greater case capacity, the more work you can do in a shorter amount of barrel time.
+It's real simple, is it pointless? No, is it the most efficient use of powder? No.
+--- 57972383
+>>57972371
+OK, now do the same case fill, peak pressure and powder for .357magnum.
+--- 57972674
+>>57972383
+About 1300fps at 4 inches, so you gain between 150-200fps in a more voluminous case by just stuffing more powder in. 
+There is a limit to how much velocity is gained by just adding case capacity at a given pressure EVENTUALLY, but I didn't note that until you started going above 40gr of capacity.
+--- 57973845
+>>57961593
+That's why averages suck.
+
+John has 1.45 ass.
+Yoko has 0.55 ass.
+
+On average they have 1.0 ass per person.
+--- 57973923
+>>57962365
+Revolvers draw and point better which I value more than extra rounds
+Better to have 5/6 rounds and win the shootout than 15/15 in muh mag and dead
+--- 57973962
+>>57961469
+Goes on to post boutique hyper ammo that matches Remington G&W .357 i could of gotten at walmart, and not scouring the internet and paying 2.50 a bullet for 20rds.
+--- 57975867
+>>57957788 (OP)
+The whole point of the length is that you can't shove it into a gun designed for .38, especially guns made with the metallurgy of the time of introduction
+--- 57975939
+>>57957824
+nice
+--- 57976513
+I have nothing to add, but reading this thread makes me want to become a reload chad. It will be interesting making the best loads for my snubby and my 3" K6S. And then one day I'll be able to fuck with shit like .460 rowland.
+--- 57977910
+>>57973962
+>could of
+> "could of"
+Anon. Just. Stop. It.
+
+> gotten at walmart
+Not for quite a while. Get out of the house once in a while. Things have changed.
+--- 57977976
+>>57975867
+>"noooo a person can't put .357 strength .38's in a Rohm they just can't okay?"
+>"nooo a person can't chamber .50BMG in a vintage 12 guage only meant to take
+brass shells reeeeeeeee"
+>"cleaning up loose amunition with a vacuum cleaner is dangerous okay! it just is!"
+>"why would someone use a .416 cheytac round as an improvised hammer whyyyyyy"
+Pussy
+--- 57978101
+>>57972027
+>A larger case volume only helps if you can use a slower powder because if you use the same fastness of power, your peak pressure increases because there is more of it, but the bullet is the same.
+If I may? Picrel is one possible consequence, for those having a hard time visualizing this. But, depending on design, metallurgy, or defects in the metal, that first inch of barrel could look the same if the cylinder wall holds.
+
+I urge people to study picrel carefully. There are all sorts of little details demonstrated there worth keeping in mind.
+--- 57978156
+>>57978101
+metal is metal fren. Stop worruing about the small stuff like a woman
+--- 57978179
+>>57957824
+P I S S I N
+I
+S
+S
+I
+N
+--- 57978689
+>>57978101
+Anon, if you're comparing two cases of different volumes and you use the same bullet, same weight powder charge in each, the larger case will exhibit lower pressure than the smaller case.
+There is no situation where this isn't true. So to reach the same pressure as the lower volume case you would use slightly more powder depending on the difference in volume between the cases until you reach the same operating pressure. 
+You can see that demonstrated above between 357-44 and 357 using the same powder, just different charge weights to reach the same pressure.
+My recommendation is that you spend a little time researching what a progressive burn rate is. As pressure increases, so does a smokeless powder's burn rate, which is why case volume affects pressure so profoundly.
+--- 57978696
+>>57978101
+well no wonder it blew up, it was a smith
+--- 57978709
+>>57963196
+Maybe if you could fit 15 of them in a doublestack pistol. But you can't, so 10mm wins.
+--- 57978783
+>>57978696
+This.
+Even their X Frame guns aren't as strongly built as the likes of Freedom Arms, Magnum Research, or Ruger Super Redhawks.
+--- 57979305
+>>57961469
+But anon, the .357 loads made by the same company are even stronger than that.
+--- 57979328
+>>57957824
+are you the guy who tried to kill Kentucky Ballistics?
+--- 57979350
+>>57978783
+This is why I stick with the superior Wesson
+--- 57979380
+>>57957788 (OP)
+Blame shit and wesson for not being able to make a gun able to handle real 357 loads, prior to S&W fuckery in the 80's they were significantly more powerful and any ruger or colt would shoot them all day every day with no issues. There's a reason the frogs used rugers for their revolvers for like 40 years.

k/57958775.txt

@@ -141,3 +141,115 @@ What do you guys think of pic related. And what kind of optic would you put on i
 Why is the turknelli bad
 >>57960477
 I've only heard good things about the fabarm
+--- 57968934
+>>57968544
+Fabarms are good, it's just dumb putting a 800 dollars sight on a 400 euro shotgun.
+--- 57969896
+>>57968934
+Fabarms are in the 800 € to 1200 € range in western Europe now.
+--- 57970366
+>>57963657
+USAS 12 can sometimes be had for 4000.
+very light shooting, nice drums that don't use feed towers
+--- 57970430
+>>57970366
+where
+--- 57970493
+>>57970430
+I'm not that anon but I've seen several USAS-12's sell at Rock Island Auction before. Price varies a lot based on condition and the maker.
+Here's one that sold in 2019 for under $3k
+https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/78/473/interord-usas12-shotgun-nfa-destructive-device
+
+Here's another from last year that went for $6500.
+https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/86/3373/gilbert-usas12-class-iiinfa-destructive-device
+
+https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/59/315/class-iii-usas12-semiautomatic-12-gauge-shotgun
+etc...
+--- 57970506
+>>57970430
+NTA, but I have seen several sell at Rock Island Auction for around that price, some higher some lower. I tried to post links but it it's not working. Do a google search for:
+>site:rockislandauction.com USAS 12
+--- 57970536
+>>57970493
+>>57970506
+i fucking hate the atf bros
+>bawwww no sporting purpose noooo
+that said why hasn't anyone cloned them domestically yet
+--- 57970549
+>>57967723
+I like mine well enough. Slapped a cheap red dot on it. Put plenty of shells through it, low and high brass, and it works fine. Only complaint is the short stroking problem is real, but you get used to it. That and the patented Kel-Tec Florida beach plastic makes it feel a little flimsy. Bretty gud, overall.
+--- 57970563
+>>57960477
+So what? You can't... ok you probably can but you shouldn't mount another shotgun to your shotgun. And dual wielding isn't practical. So putting that money toward an optic improves using your shotgun putting it toward a different shotgun, assuming yours is already good, does not.
+--- 57970584
+>>57969896
+Depends on the model, you can find them for under 500 euro
+--- 57970633
+>>57958775 (OP)
+someone tell me about biodegradable 12ga ammo
+--- 57970706
+>>57970633
+It degrades biologicals then biologically degrades.
+--- 57972682
+Bump
+--- 57973342
+>>57970706
+come on anon
+I want to know specifically for clay shooting
+--- 57973705
+>>57970633
+>>57973342
+See what bits are biodegradable? See how the brass is still brass and the primer is still metal? The shells are still litter. You still have to pick them up.
+--- 57973706
+>>57973342
+Okay. Here's some quick descriptions of Bioammo Blue alloy shot 2 3/4 inch shotshells.
+>Blue Alloy pellets(non-lead, non-steel)
+>[Blue Alloy has] almost the same softness, lethality, and penetration as lead.
+>0% plastic, biodegradable wad and hull
+>12 gauge, shot size 6 or 7
+>1 oz of shot with avg. velocity of 1377 fps
+>for use in hunting/clay shooting
+
+Source: bioammo(dot)es/products/blue/
+--- 57975028
+What are the best resources (books, videos, courses) to have a thorough understanding of shotguns and using them
+--- 57975484
+>>57975028
+The Gun and its Development by W. W. Greener
+The Modern Sportsman's Gun and Rifle by J. H. Walsh (2 volumes)
+The Modern Shotgun by Burrard (3 volumes)
+Shotgun Technicana by Mcintosh
+
+The first two books are out of copyright and can be found online, there are links to them here. >>57883221 →
+They are old but don't let that fool you, they are crammed with firsthand information from the time when shotgun technology was perfected. 
+
+This is also a useful resource, theoretically this is a glossary of gun terms but it's heavily slanted towards double-barrel guns and it does a good job explaining and showing with pictures what the various parts are and how they work.
+https://www.hallowellco.com/abbrevia.htm
+--- 57975536
+>>57958775 (OP)
+Sig Romeo 5. Why? Because they cost like $100, sig is a major company and they guarantee the internals will hold up to shotguns
+--- 57976880
+Manged to pick up a Retrograde 590 for under $500 today. Don't know if it was a good deal tho.
+--- 57977261
+>>57976880
+Nice. That's about what I've seen them for near me. Make sure to clean/oil under that heat shield occasionally since that's a blued finish, don't want your shit rusting
+--- 57979340
+I’ve been into guns, suppressors and night vision for a decade or so. A Maverick 88 was my first shotgun but I sold it after I moved from my old town and was unable to shoot skeet/trap. I don’t know what got into me but while playing the original Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare (2007), I remembered how much I loved the Benelli M4 as a teen.
+
+So, I picked it up. God, I can’t believe I’ve gone all of this time without a shotgun. It’s so insanely fun and cheap to shoot. Extremely pleased with my purchase. I bought the 11715 model that came with the collapsing stock, full length tube and a threaded barrel. Got it all for $2K shipped.
+
+The threads are mainly because I would eventually like to get a JK Armament 195 SGX-12 suppressor for it. Just so I can LARP as Anton Chigurh.
+--- 57979379
+>>57979340
+
+I would like to find an Impact Weapon Components Surefire Scout Mount. I have a Surefire Vampire that I’d like to mount for when I go hug hunting under NVG’s with my buddies.
+
+If anyone has a lead on one, let me know. It can be any model of the mount (Standard, Pro or Picatinny). I just can’t seem to find one after IWC’s owner passed away.
+--- 57979432
+>>57979340
+>>57979379
+You should, uh, get a 3 position stock too. 
+Are those mounts now hard to get now? Jeez, go second hand, ebay or tacswap.
+--- 57979981
+>>57958775 (OP)
+retarded question but can the stf 12 slam fire? i dont see people moving their finger while shooting it sometimes

k/57961276.txt

@@ -290,3 +290,255 @@ Muuuuh nuuukes
 --- 57968582
 >>57968153
 You guys are cool, don't show up to the square tomorrow
+--- 57968686
+>>57968562
+>sarmat
+Instead of washington, drunken ivan hit the bus. 
+Its a perfect metaphor of puccian pidoration
+--- 57968732
+>>57968467
+area that close to kremlin supposed well guarded no-drone zone, no matter whos controlling it, even if its just tourist filming nice views. FSO ew specialist was sleeping on his job
+--- 57968806
+>>57968433
+This. Just have two drones fly over and drop a bunch of ukrainian flags/streamers. 
+It would drive the Russians fucking mental.
+--- 57969187
+>>57968558
+>>57968488
+>that makes no sense, are you sure you aren't the one living in an 80s movie?
+What is unclear???
+
+High ranking Russian government officials are NOT a target.
+>Kyrgyzstan's President will be there
+>Several dozen important Russian government officials
+>Russian civilians and celebrities and musicians 
+>Russia holds the UN Security council Presidency
+It's just so stupid on so many levels. An attack would worsen the war in every way imaginable. A power vortex would open inside le Russian Federation. 
+
+WAR would be fully legitimatized in Russia. They would gain allies that're on the fence like some LatAM countries (Brazil)
+Russia would launch nuclear weapons because nothing else to lose.
+
+What is a benefit of attacking it??
+--- 57969293
+>>57969187
+attacking public event with high possibility of many civ casualties aint really a good idea, thats the reason they wont do it. what you saying about kyrgyz-who-cares, getting more allies and nukes flying is retarded, same shit medvedev drops in his telegram every week
+--- 57969338
+>>57968468
+> use ooks
+> Belgorod is glassed
+> two weeks later an unexploded one is found in Voronezh
+--- 57969353
+>>57964096
+--- 57969383
+>>57968202
+>Smoke cannisters in blue and yellow.
+This right here. Harmless, large enough it would show up on satellite photos. No civilians harmed during the performance of this art.
+
+I've really been liking the paint idea ... so, why not both? Smoke and paint. 
+ Everywhere.
+--- 57969391
+>>57969187
+>UOOOOOH IM GONNA NOOOOOOOOK
+You’re either a brainless faggot or a vatnik shill, probably both. Get new material Jesus Christ.
+--- 57969400
+>>57961276 (OP)
+>Goida
+Heh
+--- 57969405
+>>57961276 (OP)
+>The event forced the cancellation of some parades
+Really, a years old drone video with a shooped overlay did that?
+--- 57969410
+>>57969187
+>Kyrgyzstan's President
+Ukies can call him not no go.
+>government officials
+Nobody cares
+>civilians 
+Won't be there, Red Square will be closed to the public.
+>UN 
+AIEEEE SAVE ME LEAGUE OF NATIONS
+Brazil isn't on the fence anyway, they support Russia as do chinks and other subhumans. They only one who's on the fence is Erdogan, but that's because he couldn't care less who to trade with.
+Ukies won't attack with lethal weapons because it makes no sense, but some tomfoolery is to be expected.
+--- 57969416
+>>57961276 (OP)
+I'm expecting the FSB to do a retarded false flag. 
+At the bare minimum, I'm expecting an air raid siren and some indistinct explosions nearby, but not near the equipment, soldiers or anyone important. However, I wouldn't put it past them is they got people to dress like Nazi zombies, drove Panzer IV's into the crowd and unloaded on the parade whilst yelling in broken German in order to prove to the world that the Ukrainians are evil HATO Satanists and that only the Soviet Orthodox Church can save the world.
+--- 57969420
+>>57968806
+
+This shit would be absolutely fucking hilarious but its still probably a bad idea. Hell honestly even just showing Ukraine can reach the venue can just set up some really shitty situations. All someone has to do is blow up their own shit and then blame it on them.
+--- 57969443
+>>57968074
+>unofficialy
+I swear half the drones flying into russia and crashing arent even part of ukraines plan
+Some ukie units on the border are probaly just diying Kamikaze drones and flying them into the general direction of moscow without orders
+It would explain how every new drone crash in russia is a completely different model from before
+--- 57969759
+>>57969420
+i just want to see they drop rotten egg on Putin bald head
+--- 57969762
+>>57961641
+>invade cunt
+>get attacked back
+>this justifies self defense nukes
+--- 57969777
+>>57968239
+You're such a retard no one gives a shit it's Russia's fault if the victory parade gets btfo in front of kids
+--- 57969788
+>>57969187
+>UN
+>doing anything against the US of A
+my sides
+--- 57969842
+>>57968468
+>They would 1000000% use nuclear weapons if the parade was hit
+>They
+Literally who? Pu would be dead
+>inb4 his military command
+...would be happy for this embarrassment to be finally over. Hell, they might just try to pin everything on him and start working on restoring the pre-war status quo ASAP.
+--- 57969843
+Just one fortnight sire.
+--- 57972332
+>>57961415
+all of you fucking retards, delta-v refers to the acceleration power left, not the one currently happening. its a measurement of battery power left.
+--- 57972387
+>>57969843
+Keked and basedpilled
+--- 57972403
+>>57961530
+>implying he will be there
+--- 57972407
+>>57972332
+>All of you are retards
+>4th post literally says what you just said
+Anon
+--- 57972413
+>>57961771
+>the 180 rule
+The what now?
+--- 57972428
+>>57972332
+That makes absolutely no sense, delta-v is used to measure acceleration in space because you don't need any power to keep up your current momentum. That part is pretty vital
+--- 57972438
+>>57962305
+That depends entirely on the latitude.
+--- 57972443
+>>57972413
+Basically, characters should keep a consistent left-right position in the panel and not randomly swap around
+I don't think anon is correct though, the crowd was simply out of shot in panel 1 and the guy turned around in panel 2
+--- 57972465
+>>57972443
+I thought so too, but after actually paying attention to context it does actually break the 180 rule. The character didn't turn around, he's performing for the people on his left in the second panel. Intuitively, that suggests he was facing them when he was threatening them. Therefore, the camera swapped sides and the character did not turn around.
+--- 57972488
+>>57972438
+Yes that's why I added "at sea level". But even so it does just jump by more than half an order of magnitude by being 1km up.
+--- 57972490
+>>57972465
+Oh yeah that's true. So the correct way to structure that comic would be to have the crowd below the comedian in panel 2, to suggest depth and him looking left and right to break up the monotony
+--- 57972497
+>>57972488
+I don't think you know what latitude means. Latitude, not altitude.
+
+Lines of latitude become shorter the further north or south you go, but a full rotation of the earth remains 24 hours, so the speed of rotation slows as you go further north or south from the equator.
+--- 57972502
+>>57968545
+Vatnik shit stirrers out in full force today huh?
+
+Did something happen?
+--- 57972517
+>>57972488
+It doesn't*
+--- 57972534
+>>57972497
+Oh I just misread nvm.
+Even so my point was at the equator it's that fast, so it won't be in Russia-Moscow which is not only further from the equator but relatively lower down.
+The point was basically to disprove it as a relevant velocity reference.
+--- 57972780
+>>57961530
+Russia responds by detonating a Satan II over Kiev filled with red, white, and blue paint. The paint war officially begins. Soon, both armies are equipped with the latest paintball guns.
+--- 57974068
+>>57969777
+the holy trips have left him defeated
+--- 57974163
+>>57972502
+Mutt seething how many burgers you had today pig?
+--- 57975967
+>>57964464
+fake video, but maybe Putin would blow up their own people.
+It would work great to keep the war going.
+Also It would not be the first time for him.
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings#Ryazan_incident
+--- 57976300
+>>57969843
+Fucking Kek
+--- 57976336
+>>57972502
+Oh you know, the usual fun things when Ukies go 
+completely dark and the Russian Milbloggers start yelling Pidor at each other. :)
+--- 57976593
+>>57972780
+Such war would be so messy that both sides would start questioning themselves, are they kids? Are they squids?
+--- 57976798
+>>57964048
+/k/ fellas real silent after this dropped.
+--- 57976848
+>>57961641
+>a parade getting bombed justifies nuclear escalation
+At least im pretty sure putin isnt as retarded as you are
+--- 57976929
+>>57968468
+Any kind of bad optics would be instantly justified by the fear it would cause in russian higher ranks
+--- 57977935
+>>57966073
+Those guys are wearing multicam and western plate carriers
+--- 57977960
+>>57961276 (OP)
+>what would be the repercussions from Russia
+well I mean Russia already tried invading so what the fuck else is Russia going to do? Cry about it?
+--- 57978022
+>>57968545
+>>57977935
+Literally the same type of FPV drone that have been used by Ukraine for months. 60% sure it's Omega M2 operating it specifically.
+--- 57978038
+>>57964048
+>>57964464
+>>57976798
+I think you retards are getting flustered over an advertisement for that drone competition set for May 9th. May the best drone win!
+--- 57978074
+>>57977960
+probably do a terrorism in their cities too i would guess
+--- 57978089
+>>57969187
+>High ranking Russian government officials are NOT a target.
+War opened up with an attempted decapitation strike on Kiev though?
+--- 57978098
+>>57961601
+But what color?
+--- 57978172
+>>57968002
+If the Russians defended Moscow, it would give the people living there the idea that there was something to defend them from. And that would be bad for putin
+--- 57978183
+>>57968321
+On a scale of 1-1? Hard to say
+--- 57978232
+>>57969187
+>gaining latam allies like Brazil
+Literally who would give a fuck about that? That continent is almost completely irrelevant
+--- 57978282
+>>57972428
+No it's not. I mean it is a retarded metric to gauge battery power in this context but ∆v literally just means "change in velocity". It's not predicated on the medium in which this change is occuring
+--- 57978296
+>>57974163
+Didn't get fed again today, huh?
+--- 57978378
+>>57978074
+>we're already launching dozens of cruise missiles/lawnmower drones a month at your residential areas, but now you REALLY pissed you off so now we're gonna also use some shitty quadcopters! that'lll teach you!
+retarded
+--- 57978475
+>>57977935
+All kinds of Russian and Wagner dudes have been seen, consistently, wearing multicam and other western gear. No comment on this particular video.
+--- 57978702
+Have a huge drone
+Just fucking grab Putin from the parade like a robotic hawk and take him into the skies.
+Never report anything further or take any reaponsibility or reveal what happened to him.

k/57961829.txt

@@ -660,3 +660,181 @@ Oppenheimer was the ego maniac that couldn't handle not being the protagonist an
 --- 57968560
 >>57966877
 jews killed kennedy
+--- 57969407
+>>57968552
+If you provide someone with the means to do something, knowing full well that they would if given the chance, you then bear some culpability if said act comes to pass.
+Without Oppenheimer Truman doesn't have a bomb to use.
+
+But it's Truman's reaction I find most telling.
+He's angry. Scathingly angry in fact, that Oppenheimer would claim part of his military triumph only to dare imply it wasn't morally acceptable.
+
+Any decent person would absolutely go through a test of faith after having a hand in a nuclear event. Hundreds of thousands of people died brutally. I'm guessing Truman was wrestling with similar doubts, and lashed out at Oppenheimer mostly out of repressed self-consciousness.
+
+That or he was a shameless sociopath, pick your poison.
+--- 57969583
+>>57961829 (OP)
+Pretty much all the "Oppenheimer was a bitch" stories emerge from when Oppenheimer was black listed as a suspected communist sympathizer, and then immediately went away when he was white washed in the 60s. Oppenheimer's own speeches on the topic make it abundantly clear that he felt the atom bomb was a necessity, that its use was just, and that it ended the war much faster. He knew he was building Jap Slayer 9000, he knew it would kill people, he was proud to have worked on it.
+--- 57969760
+>>57964478
+>20,000 dead is much better than half a million dead
+not when talking about mudslime scum
+--- 57969786
+>>57964775
+>>57964838
+You're forgetting the best part, which is that during their entire time on the front, the unit under his command didn't lose a single man. In four months of fighting. I know he was an artillerist, but come on, that's either a little impressive or some insane luck.
+
+>>57969407
+I'm a little skeptical that the quote itself is real, I'd never seen it before until a few months ago and the oldest source I can find is from an obscure French book I can't find a preview for at the moment. Truman did have a history though of annoyance at peace activists in general and certain of the scientists on the Manhattan Project in particular. In terms of his view of the bomb himself though he never framed it as a military triumph, only as a necessary evil. He still always maintained he was right to do it although you're right that he was probably dealt with some complex emotional issues because of it.
+--- 57969859
+>>57961829 (OP)
+>Truman
+>doesn't let MacArthur nuke china
+Worthless oxygen thief.
+--- 57970352
+>>57964711
+I think we should use nerve agents or ethnic bioweapons instead. No reason to turn so much usable land and history into glass simply because it's currently occupied by subhumans, that's like an exterminator burning down your house
+--- 57970488
+>>57962661
+>performative anguish
+That's a good phrase, I need to remember it.
+--- 57970515
+>>57961922
+Nuclear weapons was greatest thing in human history. Long lasting peace, at least for big boys. To bad this long lasting peace made tons of crybabies like you. Nuclear weapons is ONLY reason, why you never had wwIII/IV/V and not fighting another wwX right now. Well, it was good till it lasted, brace for impact, spineless fucks showed western weakness and now, all shitholes work hard to bring west down, because they know, useful idiots like you, help them bring west down and make Earth, one big ape planet. Enjoy last days of your spoiled life, war is coming and it will be horrid. But it's probably inevitable now, because of those kumbawa bullshit retards. You hippie pacifist assholes whom brought this war onto us, you spineless cowardice, weakness, lack of willpower to take on hard decisions. F you all.
+--- 57971107
+>>57964602
+
+Overweight hands typed this.
+
+You wouldn't last a month without modern medicine, you incel cretin.
+--- 57971269
+>>57970515
+have fun on the front lines fag. I'll just leave for Patagonia if shit gets hot while reading about how whatever meaningless human wave you were a part of no longer exists
+--- 57971422
+>>57966877
+Isn't there a green text pic summarizing Oswald as a antisocial moron and impulsively doing stupid shit, like believing soviet life is great, and then returning afterwards discovering it isn't, and then expecting people to talk to him about it? I mean, he had the drive, but someone must've done the planning for him.
+--- 57971601
+>>57971422
+if you believe in MBTI and Ennegram psuedo science (you shouldn't lol) he had literally the same psychological profile as Chris Chan. People like that are generally either massive fuck ups or skilled poets/musicians/artists but sometimes come out of left field with some depraved shit
+
+It's an idealistic archtype with little in the way of self preservation or social conventional social moores if they go off the deep end. They make good Kamikazes if someone can convince them it's for the greater good but terrible soldiers/workers and have the highest divorce rates+high rates of substance abuse
+--- 57971770
+>>57971269
+>smug coward
+Some advice: Take solace in debachery, because its the only value your kind will appreciate.
+--- 57971880
+>>57971770
+not dying in a pointless culling between sociopathic elites makes you a coward
+
+have fun faggot. I'm sure they'll give you a gold star lmao
+
+>b...but we defending da motherland
+
+Keep telling yourself that
+--- 57971942
+>>57971880
+Why are you even on this board? You obviously own no guns, post moefag tranime, and are an all around giant pussy. You're the type of guy who would think handing Czechoslovakia, Austria, Memel, and the Saarland to Hitler is good because that means "no le heckin war!" You're a pussy with about as much testosterone in your body as a milk cow.
+--- 57971964
+>>57962076
+Literal Jewish tricks.
+--- 57971980
+Truman also dealt with MacArthur correctly.
+--- 57971990
+>>57971980
+By not letting him nuke china into submission?
+--- 57971996
+>>57961860
+>Waaaaaaaaaaaah da poor Wapanese :"( Dey dindu nuffins we shudda leff em awone :(
+--- 57972009
+>>57971990
+By calling him the faggot he was and destroying any hope that fuck face had of a post Korea career.
+--- 57972015
+>>57962006
+Truman's greatest regret was the CIA, and he refused to take anything off the taxpayer once done in power
+Also he's better than the president before and after him
+--- 57972063
+>>57962006
+well... there IS that interesting little rabbit hole where he SEEMS to have arranged for the "not kidnapping" of the first secretary of defense and subsequent assassination of said former secretary of defense and confiscation of his diary that supposedly linked truman to the mob.
+very little info to go on but what I could find of it is sketchy as hell.
+--- 57972077
+>>57971990
+>military officer is being openly insubordinate
+>starts trying to play politics around you to get his way
+MacArthur got what he deserved. The military being subordinate to the civil authority is a requirement for a free and open republic and failing to maintain that would spell the end of the American democracy.
+--- 57972135
+>>57972015
+>better than FDR
+>literally gets a golden age because of FDR
+lmao
+--- 57972358
+>>57961844
+thats the problem with eggheads in general.
+They always ask themself
+>can i do it?
+instead of 
+>should i do it?
+And then they go suprisedpikachu.tiff whey someone use shit they made.
+Im looking at you Alfred, you fag.
+--- 57972434
+>>57971269
+>have fun on the front lines fag
+lmao
+--- 57972483
+>>57962093
+He's right, though. Threat of nuclear annihilation effectively ended the threat of large scale conventional war. You think the cold war would have played out the same if going hot didn't mean everyone logs out of life?
+--- 57972543
+i remember i read something about oppenheimer that became erratic and depressed and when a friend tried to talk to him about his new engagement with a girl he assaulted him, but oppenheimer was such a manlet twig that he didn't manage to land a single blow or harm him in any way. that would've been hilarious to watch
+--- 57972573
+>>57972483
+are retarded? almost 50k russians have died in ukraine in the last 10 months, we're watching the largest land war in europe since WW2 that legitimately looks capable of escalating to nuclear conflict. Nuclear war is an expansion pack to large conventional war, not a second game that made the first one obsolete.
+--- 57972757
+>>57962926
+--- 57973060
+>>57965092
+(You) deserve this
+--- 57973112
+>>57961829 (OP)
+Meanwhile in Teller's office...
+>The scientist Edward Teller, according to one account, kept a blackboard in his office at Los Alamos during World War II with a list of hypothetical nuclear weapons on it. The last item on his list was the largest one he could imagine. The method of “delivery” — weapon-designer jargon for how you get your bomb from here to there, the target — was listed as “Backyard.” As the scientist who related this anecdote explained, “since that particular design would probably kill everyone on Earth, there was no use carting it anywhere.”
+--- 57973124
+caring what truman said at any point is a clear sign you should be castrated tbqh
+--- 57973135
+https://youtu.be/Skl71urqKu0 [Embed]
+--- 57973136
+>>57962006
+>If we did what we did today to Hiroshima, Dresden or Nagasaki the geopolitical fallout would threaten the Union as a whole. 
+lol this nigga didnt see americans thirsting for blood over a balloon
+--- 57973212
+>>57972077
+>The military being subordinate to the civil authority is a requirement for a free and open republic and failing to maintain that would spell the end of the American democracy.
+nice meme kiddo but once you graduate college you'll realize the real world isn't as idealistic as you thought it was
+--- 57975005
+>>57967440
+what panic would make him turn around and shoot JFK in the face, do you mean he was trying to shoot oswald?
+--- 57975401
+>>57972573
+No, you are the one who is fucking retarded. That war is literally smaller than a single fucking battle on the eastern front in ww2.
+--- 57976805
+>>57972573
+>almost 50k russians have died in ukraine in the last 10 months
+
+its waaaaaaay more than 50k, Anon
+--- 57976974
+>>57961860
+>"NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! A CLIENT GAVE ME MONEY TO BUILD HIM A FOREST AXE, SO I BUILT HIM ONE, AND NOW HE IS CUTTING DOWN TREES! NOOOOOOOO!"
+--- 57976992
+>>57961922
+>He was also good looking
+t. Jean Tatlock
+--- 57977534
+>>57973212
+The Junta isn't going to give you a platoon of catgirls just because you slob some general's knob, anon.
+--- 57977561
+>>57963533
+
+dumbasses have been saying the cities are replaceable since the first cavemen tended a field and built huts together on the Euphrates
+--- 57978601
+>>57961829 (OP)
+[Citation needed]
+--- 57980473
+>>57961829 (OP)
+>wait? bombs kill people?

k/57962600.txt

@@ -174,3 +174,26 @@ rawr >\w/<
 --- 57967590
 >>57966865
 >swing wings
+--- 57969782
+>>57966842
+>the reason the A10 is so effective is because its so slow and can handle well at low speeds
+The reason the A-10 is so effective is because A-10 pilot school is dedicated to CAS so their community retains a lot of knowledge multirole pilots don't get the opportunity to receive.
+The A-10s low speed contributes a lot to its endurance but it actually doesn't increase effectiveness.
+--- 57971877
+>>57966887
+That's a fucking blast from the past Chester is my spirit animal
+--- 57974116
+>>57966662
+maybe a panavia tornado?
+--- 57974185
+>>57962600 (OP)
+HE DIED FOR YOUR SINS
+--- 57976084
+>>57971877
+For me, it's Precious Roy. & ckd
+--- 57976388
+>>57966662
+It could work, just not well enough to buy.
+--- 57978812
+>>57966662
+Do you understand the recoil of the GAU-8?

k/57962856.txt

@@ -159,3 +159,117 @@ Works just fine with thaumium. Also i kinda discovered a new metal as of recentl
 --- 57968446
 >>57967776
 I cast from my hand all over your mom's face last night.
+--- 57969341
+>>57968446
+haha!
+--- 57969372
+My staff has been glowing octarine lately and I'm worried about the potential of spontaneous discharge. Can anyone recommend a solution?
+--- 57969418
+>>57962856 (OP)
+is this a cobra original?
+--- 57970107
+Assembled picrel myself out of old triple overcharged academy staffs over the winter, god save the king when I touch them off with my mallet at the coronation. It's too late to stop me but stay in your towers for a while guys.
+--- 57970132
+>>57970107
+sorry still using my messenger owl from school so he sometimes drops stuff on the way
+--- 57970849
+>>57966468
+Dude just get a cheap goblin girl slave and use her ass for your orbing needs.
+--- 57971379
+>>57967626
+This board is dead.
+--- 57971433
+>>57962856 (OP)
+My staff does only one spell: Bonk
+>>57962896
+This
+--- 57971652
+>>57971379
+Ukraine
+Ukraine
+Ukraine
+Ukraine
+Ukraine
+Ukraine (im trans btw)
+Anime
+Ukraine
+Ukraine
+Ukraine
+Ukraine 
+Femboy penis
+Ukraine
+--- 57971697
+>>57968134
+Shut down your teleport gate and go for a walk once in a while, Neville. And eat less muggleslop.
+--- 57971700
+>>57968134
+>a ten incher
+Kinda pathetic, but okay. You need a minimum 13 inches to pick up witches.
+--- 57971703
+>>57971379
+Post wand
+--- 57973555
+>>57962856 (OP)
+>staves vs. wands
+The future is now, old man! It's roddenin' time!
+--- 57973638
+>>57971652
+
+You forgot
+
+Ukraine (pregnant Anne Frank thread actually)
+--- 57973745
+>>57962856 (OP)
+If you don't use your hands to cast spells you're a pussy. Yes it hurts, get over it.
+--- 57974460
+>>57971379
+You're literally green.
+--- 57974504
+I prefer the weight and power of a spellbook
+--- 57974680
+>>57970849
+Your need to stare at goblin ass for hours at a time is not the same as me pondering my orb to communicate with the powers that be, Friedrich
+--- 57974828
+>>57962856 (OP)
+I can't pay the 200 gold piece fee to the local lord to afford a wand under 16 inches, guess I'll be a staffcell forever :(
+--- 57974900
+>>57962856 (OP)
+Look at that little pussy stick. THIS is a wand. Not that little prostate rod.
+--- 57974928
+>>57963814
+Cobra Craft. Now that is quality.
+--- 57976140
+>>57962856 (OP)
+bumpus threadus
+--- 57977891
+>>57974504
+Too heavy for modern spell casting use gramps
+--- 57977980
+>>57962856 (OP)
+What's the best pheromone soap to pair with my wand, o wise boglim?
+--- 57979880
+>>57970849
+>>57974680
+>Higitus figitus goblin ass embiggeness
+Life's ok sometimes, isn't it spellbros?
+--- 57979924
+>>57974900
+>Casts lightning in your general direction
+--- 57980025
+>>57971700
+>You need a minimum 13 inches to pick up witches.
+Pfffft. Warlock pls. 10 inches is all you need if you know how to use it.
+--- 57980036
+>>57974900
+>metal wand
+Its like you want the reverb to blow your hand off when you hit more than two tonal nodes in one cast
+--- 57980046
+>His wand doesn't have a hilt 
+You're not holding on to. Agree branch right anon?
+--- 57980070
+>>57974900
+Someone cast “small your dick” on you, didn’t they?
+--- 57980160
+Guys help mom found the wand silencer
+--- 57980183
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_3yDImIQYU [Embed]

k/57963162.txt

@@ -395,3 +395,226 @@ You faggot cocksuckers have three fucking safespaces in the form of /int/, /pol/
 Harry's Household Tips
 Nasty hohols dropping ordnance on you while you're trying to catch forty winks?
 Carry a beach umbrella with you in your loadout. Those grenades will bounce right off and away from your position. You'll also be protected from the sleet and snow.
+--- 57968685
+>>57966522
+Just have the soldier eyeball it and set a time fuze delay for the shell.
+--- 57968997
+>>57966513
+Yes, you have no understanding of necessity and lived a pampered faggot life.
+--- 57969086
+could you shoot down these drones with something like birdshot? (I do not own a shotgun)
+--- 57969116
+>>57966513
+no. this means you are a regular human being. there are just a lot of edgelords on this site larping as tough guys.
+>but they are…LE ENEMY so its ok
+nigger tier logic
+--- 57969129
+>>57969116
+They are invading a neighbouring country.
+--- 57969259
+>>57963377
+Im thinking a microphone that picks up on the frequency of the drone motor/blades that alerts to the presence and general direction of the drone.
+--- 57969312
+>>57965487
+>never had the ability to return fire
+Are you not allowed to carry as a paramedic, even in high risk areas? Or was it just shitty local gun laws?
+--- 57969358
+>>57963456
+>a war crime
+
+Russia can't accuse anybody of committing war crimes without having declared war first ;-)
+I see no war crime, only a (most likely AI generated) video of something dropping onto something that looks like a person and then an explosion I guess.
+Could've been anybody, anywhere, anytime.
+--- 57969477
+>>57969129
+>le monke is being retarded again so this justifies dehumanizing russian infantry who have no influence on le monke
+80 iq brown skin take
+--- 57969483
+>>57969477
+Did I mention Putin? No I didn't. These soldiers had a choice, conscription or not.
+--- 57969603
+>>57963964
+Not the same, covid doesnt blast your nuts with frag, plus it aint that lethal for young people
+--- 57969658
+>>57969483
+>conscription
+>choice
+like I said, 80 iq take
+please do not bother replying without verifying your skin color.
+--- 57970009
+>>57966981
+retard
+--- 57970094
+>>57964734
+>human beings who just had the misfortune to grow up in a dysfunctional hellhole
+I mean, couldn't you say the same about American hoodrats?
+--- 57970111
+>>57969658
+Yes, he had a lot of options.
+>just hide dude
+>go2jail immediately (2 years)
+>flee the country
+>use corruption schemes
+>Zinin (jail for 5 years)
+>shoot yourself in a leg after getting a weapon, go home.
+>shoot officer
+>surrender
+
+Tell me which of these options are worse than getting raped by a grenade in a stupidiest war ever? He rather didn't took all risks into account or considered this war reasonable enough to participate in it as a soldier, therefore he totally deserved what happened.
+--- 57970151
+>>57963377
+can a missile even detect and hit a drone the size of a basketball?
+--- 57970162
+>>57966566
+>/k/ hasn't been 4chan since Feb 22
+Oh no. What happened, zisters? How could the board devoted to weapons and warfare change so swiftly?
+--- 57970211
+>>57970162
+turns out Russia fucked something up so badly in their cyberwarfare units that it pushed /k/ right off 4Chan. Those wacky Russkies! At it agian!
+--- 57970264
+>>57970111
+Yep. Either those people don't see it like you and I do, or peer pressure is stronger than I ever realized.
+--- 57970297
+>>57963377
+There's a lot of stuff infantry has to deal with that they don't have a direct way to counter. Artillery, mortars, air strikes, ect. Just don't get seen, don't be unlucky.
+The best safety measure I haven't really seen anyone put into use on video is just occasionally looking up.
+--- 57970886
+>>57970111
+The loss of human life over politics is saddening. Are we all going to make it bros?
+--- 57970918
+>>57963162 (OP)
+russian cockroach blasted good xD
+--- 57970929
+>>57963162 (OP)
+That face when you nutted but she still suckin'
+--- 57971518
+>>57963162 (OP)
+So, he lost both of them?
+--- 57972527
+>>57963928
+So is tucker going to get hired by the Russians now that Fox fired him?
+--- 57973188
+That's a lotta nuts
+--- 57973337
+>>57966513
+Yeah, but it's fine. Luckily we don't all grow up in wartorn hellholes. Really, it's a good thing.
+--- 57973339
+>>57970886
+Totally agree. It's Putin who should be castrated by drone and die, not the boys that he threw into the scary ukies.
+--- 57973378
+>>57970211
+cyberwarfare?
+--- 57973423
+I'm starting to feel bad for the Russians lol
+--- 57973529
+>>57964518
+It’s only a war crime if you’re on the bad guy side
+--- 57973578
+>>57965500
+>qway lost
+--- 57973773
+>>57967035
+Wouldnt your complaining imply that k is your safe space?
+--- 57973799
+>>57963840
+>gets dick blown off
+you don't want to be alive bleeding out from that
+--- 57973803
+>>57973578
+How are gray squirrels outcompeting red squirrels?
+--- 57973824
+>>57973803
+They can digest acorns and carry a disease called squirrel pox that only kills reds
+--- 57973849
+>>57973803
+They're also bigger, will steal food caches, and they eat from birdboxes.
+I let my dog kill any grey he can find
+--- 57974374
+>>57963840
+Are you just gonna leave him there? Dickless? Bro Code says "If a homie lost his rod, deliver him to God". And while the Geneva Convention might not apply, the Bro Code always applies.
+--- 57974531
+>>57970264
+>people
+Anon, they're there to rape, kill and loot. Preferably ukranians but if that's not accessible they're quite happy to do it to each other. They're not people.
+--- 57975089
+>>57963377
+https://youtu.be/pb5_F4_Eod8 [Embed] 
+this on the font lines
+https://youtu.be/bdwjcayPuag [Embed]
+--- 57975180
+>>57974374
+They forfeited that kind of mercy by literally raping toddlers. Castrate and impale the ziggers (up their ass) and leave them to rot.
+--- 57975329
+>>57975180
+based
+--- 57975458
+>>57975180
+based moderate
+--- 57976015
+>>57973849
+>>57973824
+They are much like the greys of area 51 then. Purge without mercy.
+--- 57976390
+>>57975089
+>stationary targets
+lol nice advert to sell krautshit which is literal shit.
+in real life the drones wouldn't be standing in the air bunched up like that they'd wiggle around trees and be dispersed all over the place that fat truck makes for a juicy target for a million types of weapons including drones and when it's gone you have nothing but buyers remorse.
+--- 57976612
+>>57964462
+All you need are feet covers ez solved honestly.
+--- 57976652
+>>57966406
+It's not small arms, it's generally a mix of missiles and small arms and jamming sure, but they also fail regularly just from normal use and environmental factors like high winds. The study also included those micro drones which have a high loss rate.
+--- 57976690
+>>57973803
+Non-native species finds it's way onto an island where the native species has not had as many environmental pressures.
+Thank humans for it.
+--- 57977080
+>>57963377
+Anti drone drones armed with seekers or laser designators from ground operators, fired from a 40mm grenade tube, ez. You could keep a dozen in the PL.
+--- 57977662
+>>57976390
+>Krautshit
+You probably also think the leopards are going to be useless against stronk t80s
+--- 57979419
+>>57969116
+You never went to war or fought for anything or had anyone invade your home. You adopted effeminate beliefs which happen to be modern leftist inventions.
+--- 57979429
+>>57969477
+Russians all have a choice and have agency you retard. The Russian Legion among others are proof. Your take justifies all conformity.
+--- 57979451
+>>57970886
+Russian CULTURE is the problem not mere politics you silly child. Putin is a minor symptom of the Asiatic savagery driving perpetual Russian assault on civilization itself.
+
+Ask the survivors from Finland south to Syria for starters. Russia is not America with snow.
+--- 57979465
+>>57973339
+You know nothing of Russian history. Their entire society enabled and rejoices in this war like all the others.
+--- 57979476
+>>57963162 (OP)
+Rare footage of Jeremy Renner’s tragic snowplow accident, fuck I can see why they kept this one back
+--- 57979486
+>>57979429
+>Russians all have a choice and have agency 
+
+they don't, any more than your toaster or electric toothbrush.
+--- 57979546
+>>57964518
+When this war is over, regardless who wins, expect this to get specifically added.
+--- 57979548
+>>57979465
+It's about 80/20 support among boomers, and 80/20 opposition among the young.
+--- 57979588
+>>57964518
+use your fucking brain
+--- 57979634
+>>57963162 (OP)
+>that cum face he made
+--- 57979681
+>>57970211
+>pushed /k/ right off 4Chan
+That sick feel when on page 10 and no bump.
+--- 57979713
+>>57975180
+>Ukraine negotiates with Romania to bring some "advisors"
+Still gonn'a be competition with Mongolian rape babbies. I wonder who will take home the gold?

k/57963331.txt

@@ -104,3 +104,77 @@ Fuck off back to your fake and gay Ukraine containment threads you fucking touri
 >>57967161
 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Azuhmier/hmofa/master/archive_7/GnaSTtS4
 Everything is possible in your dreams, anon
+--- 57969282
+>>57963331 (OP)
+10mm is literally the only round proven to kill cryptids.
+--- 57969999
+>>57963331 (OP)
+>2022-2024
+>in retaliation to the US supporting Ukraine 
+>Russia and it's allies began covertly funneling arms and outfitting skinwalkers
+>widespread panic spread amongst the public after an assumed terror organization was suspected of murdering innocent park goers
+>this panic would reach a breaking point after witnesses say they heard gun shots and explosions coming from national parks
+>one witness says upon searching the place he heard the suspected "battle" took place, was only able to find empty military vehicles and shell casings 
+wat do?
+--- 57970003
+>>57968419
+>t. skinwalker
+--- 57972267
+>>57963331 (OP)
+No.
+--- 57972437
+>>57967335
+loaded correctly (i.e. not like the ones you buy on firequest) they fly alright. I use fewer flechettes than the firequest ones all loaded in the right direction and packed with cream of wheat in a shot cup. it just werks
+>t. knower
+--- 57973203
+>>57963331 (OP)
+The rule of thumb is that you need at least 7.62x39. Preferably .308 or .45-70.
+--- 57974205
+>>57967335
+>muh keyholing
+It's called tumbling and it makes a deadlier wound channel
+--- 57975643
+>>57969282
+Proven by who
+--- 57975702
+>>57963331 (OP)
+either 45-70 extreme pentrators, or 405 winchester long boys
+
+accept nothing else
+--- 57975740
+>>57963497
+>begone Drinks on Sundays
+--- 57976131
+>>57963582
+.454 casull tipped with silver melted down from a cathedral cross
+--- 57976369
+>>57963331 (OP)
+Beat it with a brick
+--- 57976777
+>>57975702
+what ruger model is that?
+--- 57976802
+>>57963331 (OP)
+Will filling up a hollow point with magnesium turn a bullet incendiary?
+Asking for a friend
+--- 57976970
+>>57976777
+LCRx
+--- 57977647
+>>57963331 (OP)
+Why would you do that?
+--- 57977783
+>>57968455
+...nice?
+--- 57979032
+>>57968455
+See
+--- 57979725
+>>57963331 (OP)
+--- 57979891
+>>57963331 (OP)
+Don't go walking around on Indian land with a gun, they can legally confiscate your shit if you're caught and Indians have nothing better to do than harass outsiders.
+--- 57980119
+>>57979891
+>Indians have nothing better to do than harass outsiders.
+I dunno, they could continue living, that sounds a lot better.

k/57963714.txt

@@ -349,3 +349,208 @@ J-Frame
 P80 G43
 --- 57968534
 Conclusion: Gun owners have shit taste in cars
+--- 57969103
+>>57968534
+Lets see your car, with a timestamp
+--- 57969734
+>>57964302
+>old GM appreciator
+>'85
+Wut?
+'62 Spyder
+HK P7
+>>57963851
+How dare?
+--- 57969745
+>>57967706
+that you, matt?
+--- 57969916
+23 camry
+p365xl
+--- 57969936
+>>57966862
+Unequivocally based taste anon.
+--- 57969987
+Tercel
+Browning Buckmark
+--- 57970182
+>>57963714 (OP)
+>Scat pack 
+
+Hello jamal
+--- 57970199
+>>57964625
+How is it dailying a motorcycle? You go to the range with long guns on it? If so how do you do it?
+--- 57970284
+Mazda 3
+Vp9sk if wearing layers 9 shield if only t shirt
+--- 57970349
+glock 17 gen 5
+‘22 wrangler
+--- 57970406
+>picrel
+>9 millimeter, safety always off
+--- 57970604
+>>57968534
+Bus rider
+>>57970182
+Bus rider
+>>57970406
+Based
+--- 57970667
+>>57970406
+>random parking lot shot 
+>>57970604
+>based
+I get so tired of you hero worshipping, nogun, incel, gamer zoomies.
+--- 57970686
+>>57970667
+t. Noguns bus rider
+--- 57970708
+>>57970686
+>shitty glock
+Bfd.
+--- 57970737
+>>57970667
+fuckin' prick
+--- 57970740
+>>57970708
+Nice Sootch00 thumbnail
+--- 57970783
+>>57966245
+Asking for that shit to be stolen, “truck guns” are such a dumb fucking meme. There will never be a situation where that is more practical than just carrying a pistol on your person.
+--- 57970826
+>>57970737
+Boohoo.
+>>57970740
+Cope harder.
+--- 57970858
+(you)
+--- 57970879
+>timberland boots
+>sp5
+--- 57971453
+>>57963725
+>tacoma
+>HK USP 45
+--- 57971528
+>>57967308
+Urban ape detected
+--- 57971696
+>>57963714 (OP)
+bmw 320i 
+g19
+--- 57971702
+>>57963714 (OP)
+2013 Elantra
+Sig m18
+--- 57971728
+>>57967827
+I'm the cz75 guy, it's a 2nd gen 2012 access cab
+--- 57971743
+2016 Buick Lacrosse LEATHER GROUP
+Beretta 92G LTT Elite RDO Centurion, with NP3 job
+--- 57971794
+>>57963714 (OP)
+Dodge stratus sxt 4 cylinder
+M&P Shield
+--- 57971798
+2016 Honda Fit Sport
+Illegal SBR
+--- 57971802
+>>57971743
+Very shitty pic of both.
+--- 57971820
+>>57966932
+replace your glass, goddamn
+--- 57971882
+23' Taco Limited 4x4
+-usually P365XL
+--- 57971890
+>>57971882
+And other goodies when traveling.
+--- 57971983
+>>57967478
+>my girl’
+What's his name?
+--- 57972004
+>>57964741
+Why dont you jeep pretenders just call your shit cherokees?
+--- 57972026
+>>57967044
+Who cares, try picking up some bitches in that camry or showing up to a car show
+--- 57972039
+>2019 Acura ILX (white)
+>Beretta 92 Elite LTT RDO (full size)
+--- 57972708
+>2021 4Runner Limited
+>Pic rel
+--- 57973492
+>>57972004
+They made a 2 door wagoneer and called it the cherokee, so it can get confusing.
+--- 57973519
+>>57963714 (OP)
+2016 Lexus LS460
+H&K P30 w/Langdon upgrades.
+--- 57973520
+>>57964055
+This is hop
+What a fag
+Sorry, lesbian
+--- 57973615
+>>57973520
+leave hop alone
+--- 57973759
+2001 Buick LeSabre
+Bersa Thunder
+--- 57974651
+1990 Bronco 2 manual 4x4 with a Mercedes om616 diesel
+HK p30l 9mm
+--- 57974801
+>Ram 1500 Rebel
+>Desert Eagle
+no YOU have a small penis
+--- 57975038
+>>57973520
+Nah, mine's red, Hop's is silver iirc.
+--- 57975211
+1966 karmanghia with a 40kg neutron bomb in the frunk wired to a header unit/raspberry pi combo that automatically triggers if disconnected or any SoundCloud rap track is played through it
+--- 57975483
+>>57963714 (OP)
+>Volvo 240 for winter, Toyota Celica for summer
+>can't carry because local laws
+I'd carry a CZ RAMI if I could though. Shot one at a range in Czechia and loved it.
+--- 57976228
+>>57964282
+>99 Z28
+Brother!
+I carry a Beretta APX Compact though.
+--- 57976608
+>>57963725
+>Tacoma
+>Smith & Wesson Model 36
+--- 57976673
+>>57963714 (OP)
+>07 Buick Lucerne
+>Glock 20
+--- 57976739
+>>57963714 (OP)
+i ride a bicycle
+g26
+--- 57977010
+>>57963714 (OP)
+>E46 M3
+>USPc9
+--- 57977025
+>>57976673
+hows life living outside of memphis?
+--- 57977061
+>>57972026
+>showing up to a car show
+Well the Camry will have no problem showing up, parking, and starting again when its time to leave. Also, it will probably attract a female who is worth letting into the vehicle long term.
+--- 57978836
+>>57977025
+I'm in MT
+--- 57980156
+2014 Silverado 1500 though sometimes I drive picrel (1969 c50) when I want to terrorize soccer moms and old people
+509 tactical

k/57964027.txt

@@ -68,3 +68,153 @@ this might as well be the slogan of 3 gun nowadays, it's so hypercompetitive and
 --- 57968024
 >>57967952
 Well that's just it, the whole point of these competitions was to let people not good enough for the proper target disciplines have fun with guns they could actually own.
+--- 57969562
+>>57968024
+Swing and a miss. 3gun started out as cop games.
+--- 57971135
+>>57969562
+That's exactly what I said, retard.
+--- 57971435
+Why not just use pic related instead?
+--- 57971458
+>>57964103
+probably because shotguns are so low-speed that they require the most meta-gaming to lower times. same with revolvers in USPSA.
+--- 57971555
+>>57964027 (OP)
+Yup and they have the gall to say tube fed is superior to mag fed shotguns lmfao
+--- 57971581
+>>57971555
+12ga magazines are pretty massive too.
+--- 57971594
+>>57968010
+A good chunk of the 3-gun scene is happy with that, they're absolutely insufferable and are also by far and away the division most prone to sperg rages at the RO.
+--- 57971748
+>>57964027 (OP)
+Hell nah, he got the long shmongus sticking out, dude got cock extension surgery for his gun
+--- 57971764
+>>57971435
+technically magfed
+--- 57971816
+>>57971764
+So is the gun in the OP
+--- 57971883
+>>57971581
+Yeah but they dont turn your shotgun into a fucking halberg fuckhueg stick
+--- 57971914
+>>57965442
+>literally playing as NPC for cheaters to have fun with
+You are just dumb and took Russian bait.
+--- 57971916
+>>57964027 (OP)
+>glance at thumbnail
+>just see a really long barrel
+>"what's wrong with it?"
+>click thumbnail 
+>It's the fucking tube instead of the barrel
+>wtf
+Wouldn't bird/buck shot hit the tube?
+--- 57971950
+>>57971816
+By a different technical standard, which would impact the division the guy in the OP would compete in.
+--- 57972010
+>>57968010
+PCC now has a decent amount of those a-social spergs too, it's why arbitrary reloads infest it because all the SIG MCX and AR9 sweats wanted to make sure anyone with an MP5 couldn't play in their sandbox. Tryhards have to sap the fun out of everything.
+--- 57972277
+>>57971914
+>muh russia
+--- 57972606
+>>57971916
+They go full hog on chokes since 75% of the targets shotguns see on a 3 gun course are steel with the remaining 25% being a tossed clay from a popper target that's a whipping 12m away. The only reasons shotguns exist in 3 gun anymore is to make people hurl money at the reloading hurdle and it's why I fucking hate it now.
+--- 57972626
+>>57964027 (OP)
+what happens if i shoot #9 out of that will a IC?
+--- 57972909
+>>57972277
+nta, but the current paid bots literally give you a rooted boot config to bypass battleye.
+you're better off getting a keyboard adapter and playing fps games on console
+--- 57972939
+>>57971135
+>that's not what I said at all
+>I'm telling you I said that
+>you are the retard in this equation
+
+Many such cases
+--- 57972974
+>>57964049
+--- 57973413
+>>57965342
+cringe take. Fun is different for everyone. Many people find far more fun in trying out all kinds of different builds and coming up with new and innovative ways to make bad items useful by using new tactics and strategies. Just trying to do the same thing 0.3% better for hundreds of hours sounds not only incredibly boring, but it's damn near Einstein's definition of insanity.
+--- 57973897
+>>57964027 (OP)
+same goofy fuck energy
+--- 57973925
+>>57973897
+Arch better than no arch
+--- 57973932
+>>57973925
+>wrong is better than wrong
+it's wrong.
+--- 57974265
+Why does /k/ hate fun?
+--- 57974287
+>>57964027 (OP)
+I don't know; you tell me.
+--- 57974332
+>>57974287
+I imagine this must be the most fun shotgun ever to shoot.
+--- 57974372
+finally
+walking dead shotgun
+--- 57974424
+>>57974287
+>Gee Bill, how come your mom lets you have TWO muzzle brakes?
+--- 57975259
+>>57972909
+I pretty much only play Rising storm 2 with a few friends now. Tarkov grind became too ridiculous for a normal dude with a job. I pop in early wipe to have a night or two of fun,but then it's over.
+--- 57975319
+>>57975259
+not him but big rs2 fan, still sad about the delay on 83 smfh
+--- 57975409
+>>57964575
+Quad loading is very easy. It took me ten minutes practice a week for three weeks to be pretty good.
+--- 57975438
+>>57975319
+>delay
+I have bad news anon
+--- 57975614
+>>57964103
+>>57968010
+>>57972010
+>sweats
+Is this the new zoomer version of tryhard? Tryhard wasn't melanin enriched enough?
+--- 57975839
+>>57974332
+What kind of rail and muzzle brake is that? I'm looking to get a KS-12
+--- 57975875
+>>57975614
+>scrub
+Is this the millennial version of noob? Noob wasn’t melanin enriched enough?
+
+Retard
+--- 57976142
+>>57975614
+Are you too young to have been around when sweatlords was a thing?
+--- 57976580
+>>57972939
+Are you under the impression that cops are good shooters?
+--- 57977004
+>>57976580
+The ones who created 3gun are pretty good.
+--- 57977032
+>>57975614
+dude sweaty has been around for years. why do you so desperately want to be out of touch?
+--- 57979569
+>>57964027 (OP)
+is it possible for an errant pellet to hit the mag tube at that point
+--- 57979600
+>>57979569
+nah. i'm not sure exactly how far but the pellets and wad are usually in one small group for a few metres after leaving the barrel
+--- 57979702
+>>57965250
+a guy I knew gave nearly this exact presentation for his Corporal's Course. The female Sgt Major was not happy and he was kicked out and busted back down to Lance over it.
+What a nincompoop

k/57965170.txt

@@ -101,3 +101,146 @@ yes heckin resistant
 There are a lot of Gerber Mk1 clones out there which can be a decent deal for a decent shank. I prefer the S&W licensed version because they don't cheap out on the sheath like most other manufacturers. You used to be able to get them for $10 on Amazon but the last time I checked they'd gone up to $20, I thought that was because of REm4ke but some reviews indicate that this happened at least a year ago.
 
 I'm also a fan of Ontario's 3mm thick machetes, they're great poorfag falchions and make wonderful project blades. If you stumble upon one of their unfortunately discontinued 2mm thick machetes then snap that shit up, they're excellent tools.
+--- 57970025
+>>57965987
+Yes
+--- 57970077
+>>57965170 (OP)
+i wanted to post the glock knife but what THE FUCK happened you could easily get one for 20 now they are at least double
+--- 57970095
+>>57966638
+>trying to flex his 1000$ folding knife
+--- 57970136
+if one were to fall over while carrying a knife what would be the best sheath type to stop the blade from shaking ones self ?
+--- 57972140
+>>57970095
+free folding knife.
+--- 57972263
+>>57967458
+Sk5 is great steel
+--- 57972288
+>>57965170 (OP)
+>Cold Steel GI Tanto
+>Fullest tang 1055 carbon steel i think
+(reasonably tough and hard) with spring temper
+>lynn thompson bends it like 65 degrees in a vise with a cheat bar and it maintains its shape
+>just werks
+>like $30, comes with sheath
+>replace grip scales with whatever if you don't like them
+my first one is stuck in the trunk of a tall tree because I threw it while drunk. it's a good throwing knife
+--- 57972386
+>>57970077
+glock stopped selling the flatbacks around 2010 and priced the sawbacks at 30. the only way to get a 78 is buy from europe whose prices are 30-40 usd then tack on shipping. so you are looking at roughly 50-60 bucks. or sub40 for the sawback.
+--- 57972905
+>>57965971
+even cheaper now, home depot has them for $21
+--- 57973111
+>>57967458
+Literally every knife in this entire thread has shitty steel. 
+
+And while I'm at it, does Opinel hire people to come onto /k/ and post hype about their outdated-by-a-century folding knives? Or is there really someone out there who just loves knives with fragile locking mechanisms, opening and closing designs requiring two hands, thin pivot pins, wooden handles, and no pocket clips?
+--- 57973133
+>>57973111
+tbf their blades are pretty nice
+it's just a shame the rest of the knife feels like it was put together by a Frenchman right after a liquid lunch
+--- 57973134
+>>57973111
+Ur gay
+--- 57973178
+>>57973111
+post your knife
+--- 57973254
+>>57973178
+ok :)
+--- 57973756
+>>57973178
+if you want good steel relatively cheap, in folders hogue makes a knife called the deka that's available in magnacut with a decent heat treat for under $100. 
+
+in fixed blades cold steel makes some good stuff in various shapes and sizes, but pay attention to country of origin and look for japan or taiwan. i would happily pay $100 for a san mai sai pan or similar length, but not for an aus10a version.
+--- 57973793
+>>57973111
+
+Its kinda the point of the thread. The best knife for the lowest price, which is a niche. So of course they are all going to be mid to low-mid tier steels when trying to hit that ratio. Its a category for the "Thinking Mans Knife".
+>>57973254
+And your knife is lame looking. Looks like one of my Grandmas kitchen knives. Teal smooth grip.. Just touching it probably makes your estrogen levels shoot up.
+--- 57973883
+>>57973793
+>The best knife for the lowest price, which is a niche.
+OK but in the tension between best knife and lowest price, I contend you've strayed too far into prioritizing "lowest price", and away from "best knife". You can have an amazing piece of steel in your pocket for like $50-$75 these days, so carrying an Opinel just seems like being penny wise and pound foolish. If you can afford a $20 Opinel #7, you can save up a little bit and instead get a Hogue Deka in 61Rc Magnacut, a much better blade.
+>>57973793
+>And your knife is lame looking. Looks like one of my Grandmas kitchen knives. Teal smooth grip..
+I guess there's no accounting for taste, so I won't bother, but functionally I find Bark River's G10 scales extremely comfortable to my hand and not slippery at all. The EXT-1's handle is basically why they designed that model, after all, since the blade profile is just a Fox River.
+--- 57974055
+>>57973254
+
+Wow, one of the gayest looking knives in the thread with a shitty grind and edge to match.
+--- 57974643
+>>57974055
+>shitty grind
+You don't like convex grinds? lol
+>shitty edge
+Reached through the screen and did some cut tests with it, did you? 
+Stay salty, my frend.
+--- 57975728
+>>57966652
+It looks like he dug murder weapons out of the trash in his local alleyways, lol.
+--- 57976331
+>>57975728
+>It looks like he dug murder weapons
+Badass. And they were free. If anyone got murdered with a straight razor or the higonokami, that only adds to the awesomeness of it
+--- 57977246
+>>57973111
+I got an opinel years ago because people said they were cool and I figured what the hell for the price. They are kind of neat, but practically speaking they are a piece of shit that I'd never carry. I got it at the same time I got a cheapo mora, and turns out the mora was a good value although not a folder.
+--- 57977288
+>>57973883
+
+The knife in the OP has been proven in the field if work. These little cpm "super steel" folders you speak of ain't worth the +$200 tag. Let alone 99% of people who buy an expensive knife tend to baby it because the price they paid for it. Cheaper is better for most people because its easy to let go and use it. And a knifes standing is only as good when its used. If its not used it might aswell not even exist.
+
+This thread is off track. I declare the guy who posted the Cold Steel GI Tanto the winner.
+--- 57977694
+>>57977288
+I have countless knives of varying quality and price and I'll admit that I'm really guilty of babying the more expensive stuff to the point some examples are more for collecting curiosity and to say I have one with the exception of the two Winklers I have. This was more largely due to how long it took me to get some of them and how difficult they'd be to find a replacement. 
+
+A good example is the CRK Pacific. They were barely trickling out and I was on a waiting list for a year and a half out of two already before some randomly came into stock on DLT Trading. The lead time on them currently is 6 years so I'm loathe to hammer on one when I have an abundance of BK's and ESEE's I can wail on all day and easily replace and honestly enjoy more as hard use tools.
+
+I carry some 200-300 dollar last ditch knives (mostly made out of AEB-L, seems popular in that niche role) on rotation because they're not going to be seeing the sort of hard work a bushcraft knife uses but even then, more often than not I've a cheap obake or minimalist in my pocket as much as the custom stuff. 
+
+Regarding the topic though, I've carried a Condor Terrasaur and Cold Steel SRK for years and for the 40 buck price range they can't be beat. Mora would be a close second but those other two knives are just little beasts for the price I paid for them and it's surprising the value for money you can get for 40 dollars if you pay attention.
+--- 57977729
+>>57966638
+Protip, if you ever want to get free knives go to your local courthouse and look in the bushes by the entrance, there should always be a few that got chucked in there by dumbass criminals who had to go to court but forgot they had their knife on them until they got to the security checkpoint inside the courthouse doors.
+--- 57978345
+>>57965170 (OP)
+D2 blade, micarta handle, great action, solid lockup, convenient size, useful shape
+$32.66
+--- 57978381
+>>57978345
+me retarded
+--- 57978411
+>>57965170 (OP)
+>sharpened rock
+>$0
+you're all fucking consoomers; unplug yourself from the metal jew and embrace rock knives
+--- 57978447
+>>57978381
+>>57978345
+>useful shape
+what's useful about it
+--- 57978454
+>>57965170 (OP)
+Esee 4 in s35vn
+/thread
+--- 57979183
+>>57965170 (OP)
+Wait, 440, or 440c?
+Because it matters.
+--- 57979843
+>>57965170 (OP)
+Muh cooking is a far right dog whistle. Nobody needs knives. Go to McDonald's, Wendy's, taco bell, pizza hut, or even panda express and show me even one thing that needs a knife. This is how the common man, the sensible eat. Anytime someone starts bragging about making dinner, meal prep, or leftovers I immediately start to look at them funny. They're all but admitting they are dangerous psychopaths. It's not even healthy. I can pull up the nutrition facts on my chicken nuggets right now. People who do their own research and reject the experts, OK then what is the nutrition label going to look like on your steak and potatoes? How do I know your chicken and rice has enough nutrients and doesn't have too much sodium or cholesterol? How do I know you even cooked it safely or that it doesn't contain poison? It's such a backwards contrarian idea. If you insist on using knives like an unwashed barbarian you can still go to restaurants where each knife is accounted for and safely locked up when not in use.
+--- 57980481
+>>57974643
+
+>Convex in parts and flat in others due to shitty sharpening technique evidenced by the light showing everything critiqued. 
+>Reddit-tourist comeback
+
+Go back and at least learn how to take care of your knives faggot. Spending hundreds on a knife just to fuck it up isn't doing anything but show everyone you're a dumb fucking kid larping with a knife.

k/57965639.txt

@@ -109,3 +109,313 @@ My experience with cyclists are either they know they're cyclists and do their b
 >>57966308
 I ride to work 3 days a week, I dunno man, when you get in the saddle you just see red sometimes.
 it's usually directed at other cyclists. one time two bitches were hogging the bike lane going slow, I passed up the middle and bumped the one on the left into traffic. fuck her
+--- 57969113
+You want rage try being british this week. Fucking cattle in this shithole.
+--- 57969137
+>>57965859
+>>57965979
+Fuck cyclists
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmB0Fy7qa2I [Embed]
+--- 57969161
+>>57969113
+What happened
+--- 57969229
+>>57966775
+My nigger, you realize we must use the roads? Yes I'd love dedicated cycling lanes but ultimately this country isn't willing to pay for it.
+--- 57969319
+>>57969161
+Clearly he caught mad cow disease from fucking the cattle, you doofus
+--- 57969360
+>>57969161
+First the shitshow with our carrier now the machette stuff it sucks no one here cares about rights just do as told im genuinly raging.
+--- 57969434
+>>57965859
+I work as a ranger in a brickleberry-tier park in europe (not a very high position but who cares) and it is impossible to count how many times stupid faggots (95% cyclists) call us to solve their problems because they know we're armed. They go into the woods when its hunting season, ignore every single sign and warning, and then break down crying because there is a man with a gun in the woods. Oh my God! A kid with a machete whacking brush! Teens with an air rifle shooting at sticks! Lets go shoot them and ban them for life because this fucking spandex nigger said so.
+--- 57969440
+>>57969229
+Use the sidewalk or don't cycle.
+--- 57969452
+>>57969161
+--- 57969544
+>>57965639 (OP)
+I'd feel bad for you if this post wasn't written in the faggiest way possible
+--- 57969570
+>>57965639 (OP)
+>believing war stories
+Everyone embelishes and his grandpa probably lied his ass off to sound interesting. Sad about the loss of any surplus 1911 though.
+--- 57969621
+>>57965979
+The fisherman's life is never easy. Being the bane of all creatures subaqueous requires the patience of a saint.
+>>57969440
+>cycling 20 mph on tiny bumpy pedestrian pathways
+I'm sure that would end well. Drivers need to just calm the fuck down and realize that the minor inconvenience of passing a cyclist isn't a personal insult. Just the mention of a cyclist on a road to my friends is enough to drive (heh) them into a murderous seethe where they fantasize about committing mass vehicular manslaughter.
+--- 57969829
+>>57969452
+The average europoor genuinely thinks like this. 
+Honestly they deserve everything that's coming to them.
+--- 57969855
+>>57969360
+What machete stuff?
+--- 57969885
+>>57969855
+Some retard is trying to have machetes have a license similar to current gun ones, fucking hate his country
+>Welsh bong
+--- 57969921
+>>57969161
+Oliver Cromwell
+--- 57969956
+>>57969434
+>spandex nigger
+--- 57970011
+>>57969452
+>oi m8 ah yew mentull do yeh waunt ta bee loike dem yanks wot let dehr chilldrunn get shawt in skewel durren dehr maffs clarses
+--- 57970038
+>>57966991
+And there is truly no in between those two types, some of them have their heads screwed on tight but others are just suicidal cunts
+
+>>57969229
+I know but it’s just surprising that more cyclists don’t get fucked to death by Holderns travelling 150 kilometres an hour
+--- 57970042
+>>57965639 (OP)
+>moms ruining everything
+I know that feeling.
+>mom would pour liquor on my dads head and laugh while she forced him to sleep on the couch
+>so he cheated on her
+>"oh now how did this happen i was such a good loving wife!!!"
+>locks him out of the house
+>hits him up for child support
+>get him fired from his work
+>when he cant pay she gets his ass thrown in jail
+>while his ass is thrown in jail she sells all his 30+ firearms for pennies on the dollar
+>im talking TWO brand new mini-14s from the 80's still wrapped in mylar
+>sold his families silver
+>sold his family civil war muskets and civil war sabre
+>files for divorce and gets everything because my dad is stuck in jail
+>she gets the house that HE paid for by selling the house his father gave him
+>she ends up marrying a canadian 20 years younger than her
+>13 years later my Dad dies
+>i get over 2 dozen guns from his house
+>he has literally nothing else but crippling debt
+>she has the audacity to ask for one of his guns
+
+Ask me how im getting back at my absolute whore of a mother, its devious. I'll give you a massive hint, it has to do with my moms portion of my grandmas inheiritence and the fact that my eldest son died and my mom is withering away at age 66 waiting for me to give her grandchildren
+--- 57970228
+>>57966700
+Having lived up n*rth (mistake, never again) can confirm yankoids are like this 
+>>57969570
+Embellished or not that was a family heirloom and a piece of US history she destroyed for no reason but to spite her own child. A firm kick in the flaps is the least of what she deserves.
+>>57966594
+>>57966628
+Stay mad
+--- 57970252
+>>57970042
+Canadian or "canadian"? Either way fuck the bitch and I hope you make her suffer. Dunno wtf is with boomer roastie moms and why guns seem to be the things they hate more than anything (except maybe their child's future)
+--- 57970323
+>be me
+>always had a interest in guns since I was 6
+>would always fantasize about shooting guns and having an impressive collection 
+>father is one of those types where he talks about loving being an american and is happy for 2nd amendment and all that
+>will not under any circumstances purchase a firearm or teach me how to do it
+>over the years via the internet, friends and neighbors, learn how to shoot, take care and be safe with firearms 
+>decide enough is enough after oogling about getting a gun for myself 
+>enter pawn shop
+>like destiny, literally see dream gun ive wanted since I was 16. Has original case, paperwork and even buy lists back when the company was still around
+>imfuckingdoingthis.mp3
+>decide its worth the risk of him discovering it or finding me out with it
+>will NOT allow this opportunity to pass 
+>buy it
+>get home
+>father is home
+>FUCK ME
+>while trying to figure out what to do, he walks out asks whats in the case
+>decide I cant go down the route of "none of your business" due to the case
+>tell him its a gun
+>he completely freaks out saying how hes always told me he doesnt want a firearm on his property
+>says how I am never going to be trusted and from now on I will need to be frisked when I come back from somewhere
+>says my room will need to be inspected due to lack of trust
+>will not let me enter the house
+> threatens to call the authorities on me if I do not leave his property with my gun
+>go back to the pawn shop
+>pawn it back for the cheapest I can while thinking about my next move
+>neighbor is nice enough to let me store my gun in his safe 
+>still there to this day
+
+Probably going to smuggle the gun back so I can actually fucking inspect and clean it. That or move out. Ive been a home health care for my mom for a long time but thats not easy and this firearm fiasco is a issue I am still mad about and this is yet another thing on which I will never forgive him for.
+--- 57970337
+>>57970252
+>Canadian or "canadian"?
+Literally from Canada. Met him on Runescape and left me for over a week when I was 14 to go visit him, then brought him home to live with us.
+I ran away at the age of 15 to live with my grandma
+>Dunno wtf is with boomer roastie moms and why guns seem to be the things they hate more than anything (except maybe their child's future)
+She likes them now. She has since "Found God" and claims to be a devout Catholic.
+--- 57970413
+>>57969452
+>Extreme knee jerk policies to statistically tiny events are daft at the best of times
+Right, like banning guns because of "school shootings"?
+--- 57970420
+>>57970323
+Def move out and tell "dad" YWNBAW to his dumb face that is inexcusable
+--- 57970505
+>>57970413
+Or legalizing the mutilation of children to placate .02% of the population
+--- 57970535
+>>57970413
+>tiny events
+>school shootings
+'MURICA
+--- 57970544
+>>57970505
+Groomer spotted, stop lusting after child genitals you freak.
+--- 57970616
+>>57969440
+nta but its illegal in a lot of places to ride a bike on the sidewalk. i do it anyways when applicable but its not always an option nor legal.
+--- 57970998
+>>57965979
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFrJSx3CPLE [Embed]
+Here, some virtual payback :)
+--- 57971356
+>>57966308
+seaweed here, the cunts are the ones that define themselves by their cycling, if people just use it as a mode of transport they're usually cool, but outside of the netherlands, if someone cycles "for sport" (especially women), they're usually fucking cunts, even some of the ones here are cunts.
+--- 57971407
+>>57966594
+>you WILL NOT use common internet lexicon
+--- 57971420
+>>57970544
+>nigger tier reading comprehension
+Vayase afuera Pablo
+--- 57971477
+>>57966653
+And yet here you are.
+--- 57971488
+>>57969452
+jesus wept
+--- 57971515
+>>57970042
+>this entire post
+--- 57971520
+>>57969452
+>Reddit is full of NPCs
+>>57971488
+Holy numerals confirmed o/
+--- 57971530
+>>57966775
+I live in a shithole blue state and use a bicycle to get where I need to go. I'm firmly of the belief that sidewalks are safer for bikes, theres a reason why kids uhder 14 must ride bikes on the side walk and no it isnt because theyre smaller. 
+But by law we must use the roads. I still ride my bike on the very wide sidewalks because fuck that, but if I think a cop will give me trouble I go on the road.
+--- 57971590
+>>57965979
+>>57969452
+Combination of these two. Karen gets involved in other people's road rage incident, man tells her to fuck off, she pepper sprays him, he punches her in the face. She ends up pissing and shitting because she realized her pepper spray will not help her one iota if a man decides to do whatever he wants with her. 
+https://www.capetownetc.com/news/cape-town-woman-demands-justice-following-road-rage-incident/
+--- 57971768
+>>57971590
+>insert yourself into someone else’s driving dispute only to ge you chef in the face
+lol, lmao even
+--- 57971812
+>>57969229
+You never fucking use them when you get them nigger, take your bike to the fucking trails or park and think about whether you want to be a pedestrian or motorist when it comes to traffic rules.
+--- 57972617
+>>57965639 (OP)
+Reminds me of an anon posting here from /mu/ or /fa/ or something faggy like that, but the guy stood to inherit a fucking unreal collection from his dad and to his credit he actually gave a fuck. Problem was his bitch step mom wanted it too and he wanted to ask /k/ what the fuck he was sitting on. /k/ basically flipped their shit and told him to lawyer up and fight that bitch tooth and nail. I think one of the posts was "Get a lawyer, a Jewish lawyer." Which was fucking hilarious to me.
+
+Did anyone ever see the follow up on that?
+--- 57972908
+>>57966308
+Jeremy clarkson of top gears rant on why bicyclists are a cancer on humanity is amazing and you are doing yourself a disservice by not hearing it.
+--- 57972920
+>>57969229
+Jeremy clarksons anti bicyclist rant addresses your shit claim. Fuck you people dont want to be taxed so you can shit up the roads with even more confidence in your specialty built expensive as fuck lane shrinking the roads that you wont even stay the fuck on.
+--- 57973038
+>>57972920
+>can afford 20 lane highway
+>can't affort a shitty bike lane that can be build to a much lower standard and still lasts five times longer
+Anon we all love Jeremy Clarkson, but I don't think he's at his most objective when talking about cycling.
+--- 57973052
+>>57970323
+Move out, let him take care of everything then. Watch him crumble then offer to move back on your own terms. Make a contract or a lease. Fuck him with the law if he fucks with you.
+--- 57973072
+>>57970544
+That is the absolute weakest attempt at reverse psychology ive seen since i was a child. 41% probability you will not be society's burden in the future no matter if you get your changes and affirmations.
+--- 57973087
+>>57971420
+Its an idiot white guy purposely misinterpreting your argument dipshit, learn the enemies tactics and humiliate them.
+--- 57973108
+>>57972617
+Yes. Bitch mom fought hard but anon won. There was a two part screencap about it.
+--- 57973146
+>>57972920
+I probably pay more taxes than your worthless NEET ass but barley any of it goes to the infrastructure I primarily use. Instead it goes to accommodating you sweaty fat fuck carfags.
+--- 57973206
+>>57971488
+
+>1488
+Truly, God looks down in horror at what his wayward children do.
+--- 57973226
+>>57973108
+Archive links?
+--- 57973666
+>>57973146
+The only sweaty one is you after a 30 minute ride to the corner store, smelly bike nigger.
+--- 57974700
+>>57973108
+Based
+--- 57974758
+>>57969452
+the modern Briton is a sad creature
+>>57970505
+>.02% of the population yet I still find a way to bring them up in every unrelated thread that I can find
+obsessed
+--- 57974797
+>>57973052
+Im trying to get more leverage (money) so I can truly stay away if that really is the better case. Its not easy but im getting there, 1 step at a time
+>>57970420
+I dont know if I should be explosive with the walking away, more like a gradual escape plan. In my head though that sounds so fucking great though.
+--- 57974956
+>>57965639 (OP)
+My uncle handed over the family s&w no 3, which saved grandma, to a friend because he was mad at grandma 
+
+I would have paid him to keep it in the family
+--- 57976907
+>>57973666
+kek
+--- 57977179
+>>57966308
+>anti-car fags
+What
+--- 57978331
+>be me
+>be WA-fag
+>be april 25th 2023
+
+That's it
+--- 57978435
+>>57974797
+Gradual escape plan means that he'll slowly learn to live without you and it won't teach him the lesson he needs to get over how much of a faggot he is. If he needs you around, drop him on his ass, but you'd better be ready to take care of yourself so that he crawls back to you, not the other way around. My dad was the same, and I did the same. He tried to come crawling back to me. I told him to get fucked. Good riddance.
+--- 57978723
+>>57970042
+>my eldest son died
+Fuck anon, I hope you still find joy in life despite all this grief and heartache.
+--- 57978904
+>>57969229
+i hate cyclists
+--- 57978940
+>>57970042
+are you the sole benefactor on your gmas will?
+--- 57980130
+>>57965639 (OP)
+I used to volunteer for a hospice care center in California and an old WW2 vet confided in me that their grandkids sold the Garand he carried in WW2 off to a gun buyback. 
+
+>"you seem like a nice young man, anon. Why couldn't you have been my grandson?"
+--- 57980204
+>>57969452
+I can barely get through the first few replies. Jesus Hitler Christ I cannot fucking fathom ever thinking this way. What goes on in their heads?
+--- 57980223
+>>57972908
+>>57972920
+Clarkson's a wanker and the only people who like him are too pussy to act like cunts themselves, so they live vicariously through a cunt on TV
+--- 57980229
+>>57973666
+>didn't deny being fat
+Figures
+--- 57980325
+>>57970323
+What gun is it may I ask?

k/57965811.txt

@@ -80,3 +80,158 @@ Big cities with big departments have lax PT standards. Lots of manpower needs an
 --- 57968663
 >>57968470
 The rest are Asians
+--- 57968687
+>>57966360
+Centralized policing is antithetical to a peaceable and free society.
+--- 57968706
+>>57966360
+>NYPD
+>overstretched or underfunded
+
+They literally outnumber the standing armies of most countries.
+--- 57968731
+>>57965837
+This is the alternate universe version of the vegan pointing and I refuse to think otherwise
+--- 57968736
+>>57966360
+The problem is that the US is incapable of achieving anything
+They can't build infrastructure, they can't remove the homeless junkies and they can't have a competent police force
+They can make money but are incapable of using it to any real effectiveness
+--- 57968743
+>>57968687
+
+Centralized policing only works in small countries where there isn't really a need to have an overlap in agencies. Every time it's implemented in a country with a large population, you get agencies like the Gestapo, the NKVD, and COINTELPRO that essentially function as apparatuses of state-sponsored terror directed against the general population.
+--- 57968757
+>>57968736
+
+We could remove the homeless junkies if the ZOGbots weren't getting in our way.
+--- 57968773
+>>57968757
+The classic American solution
+>We're only a declining shithole because of my political enemies
+And so every problem in the us never gets fixed and is just boiled down to partisan bickering
+--- 57968781
+ITT: retarded americans talking political pseud shit about police agencies like they're impossible to do them right, while they're a solved problem in pretty much the rest of the world even in many 3rd world countries.
+--- 57968796
+>>57967558
+>not Operation Dessert Storm
+--- 57968810
+>>57968781
+That's great, but the rest of the world is retarded.
+--- 57968811
+>>57968781
+>No way to fix this says only country where it ever happens
+--- 57968826
+>>57965811 (OP)
+Thank you for your service
+--- 57968838
+>>57965837
+Karl's the type of dude who would be fighting waves of enemies to defend Burger Town and then be surprised to know afterwards that there was a VIP in the meatlocker he was defending.
+--- 57968860
+>>57968810
+>t.
+--- 57968876
+>>57966360
+>>57967564
+If you want to fix corrupt policing, here's some quick ways to destroy the blue wall of silence.
+Overturn Graham v. Connor.
+Repeal qualified immunity
+Any money used to pay victims of police brutality must come out of the departments pension 
+The last one alone will see departments immediately sell out trouble makers
+--- 57968882
+>>57967544
+Can I just say I never liked buffets all that much? They were always nasty, and the food was mediocre at best (especially after sitting out under those heat lamps for way too long). A few months ago I went to a restaurant with a similar but much better system. You just paid for the all you can eat option, and then had a tablet to order a wide variety of small portions of food from ribs to sushi. Tasted much better, no little kids coughing all over the potato salad, similar price to a buffet, and they probably wasted less food too.
+--- 57968939
+>>57968826
+Wow a blatant overreach of state power
+Surely the heavily armed american populace resisted this
+Oh they didn't?
+He got six months in jail for murder
+And nobody did anything?
+Why is the United States so cucked?
+--- 57969012
+>>57966360
+nigger the nypd had a budget of almost 11 BILLION usd for 2022 thats comparable to the military budget of poland
+--- 57969067
+>>57968860
+Superpower 2023
+--- 57969249
+>>57966360
+their clothes are overstretched
+--- 57969261
+>>57967499
+control freaks always want more centralization. If they got their way they would hardwire every small decision making through washington dc/new york like russians do with Moscow and Pidorsburg
+--- 57969271
+>>57965811 (OP)
+>pick up that candy bar
+>give it to me
+--- 57969552
+>>57969067
+At least Indians shit on the street because they're poor
+Americans do it because of fentanyl
+--- 57969752
+>>57969552
+Indians would be shitting on the street because of fentanyl too. But as you said, poverty central over there.
+--- 57969852
+>>57965811 (OP)
+https://nypost.com/2018/02/18/fat-cops-are-weighing-down-the-nypd/
+--- 57969891
+>>57965811 (OP)
+they look like fake police? is metro state still running with jeremy locked away?
+--- 57971566
+>>57965845
+Fat shaming and all that shit. Cant have standards now because it's racist or something.
+--- 57972082
+>>57965811 (OP)
+Nice one Vanya, american will be very demoralize by your latest influence op
+--- 57972544
+>>57965811 (OP)
+>jumps over their heads and does an accelerated bhop straight to d1_trainstation_03
+nothin personnel CPs
+--- 57973386
+>>57968860
+Imagine just going down one of those sidewalks with a wooden bat and just cracking junkies in the head left and right lmao, they’re like zombie speed so you could probably get a few before they either scuttered away or a mob of half drugged street people overwhelmed you
+--- 57973483
+>>57965811 (OP)
+>me littering in front of Trump Tower
+>imagine the unlikeliness of it all
+Officers, even though I definitely didn't put the can there, I'm more than happy to pitch in keeping the area around Trump Tower clean. Thanks for your service, gentlemen, have a good day!
+--- 57973594
+>>57965811 (OP)
+
+Say please
+--- 57973878
+>>57965811 (OP)
+I throw the can in their face and then circle strafe past them, bunny hopping to the loading zone for the next map.
+--- 57973933
+>>57966060
+New York city is still plagued with obesity and severely low IQ tweens so you're not missing out on much here.
+--- 57973994
+>>57967671
+Considering how much of a trash pit NYC is and how many people they employ (Last time i checked it was around 75,000 personnel, a quarter of that being uniformed policemen). It would be understandable on why their budget is so high. What isn't understandable is allowing social political fads dictate and hinder their ability to do their job.
+--- 57974069
+>>57968773
+This
+--- 57974590
+>>57965984
+This is projection. NY is one of the skinniest states in the country. The Midwest and South are where all the fatbodies are.
+
+>T. adult man in NY with 23 BMI
+--- 57975705
+>>57968773
+He's correct though. In the case of the mentally ill, the shuttering of asylums in the U.S. was a move by the Zionist puppet Reagan. Obviously that's been a while, but the only thing stopping us from reversing the trend are those in power. And those in power are Zionist Jews. Similar answers to the Black problem, the Opioid epidemic, etc.
+
+If you want political change, stop looking at parties so much and start looking at tribe. Call it grug-tier if you want, but some things don't change, and that's one of them.
+--- 57977763
+>>57974590
+Get on my level 
+>5’10 with 17.9 bmi southerner
+--- 57977772
+>>57968860
+Just nuke Filthadelphia
+--- 57980467
+>>57968939
+It's always been like that, anon, just open your eyes and ears for once
+--- 57980501
+>>57965984
+QUAAAAALUUUUUUUDES

k/57966229.txt

@@ -17,3 +17,101 @@ What era is this from? 30 round magazine in the CAR15 and an extended .45?
 --- 57967696
 >>57967268
 It's from vietnam era, commonly used by MACV-SOG in their cross border operations
+--- 57969682
+>>57966361
+I go trough atleast two 20 round boxes of 6.5 swedish during hunting season because I suck. It's getting expensive.
+--- 57969704
+I just keep one 50cal ammo can full for each caliber. I just want enough that the next panic doesn't hurt so bad.
+--- 57969740
+If you actually shoot, you really cannot have too much.
+--- 57971580
+i will buy 500 rounds at a time and restock if it gets low
+--- 57972892
+>>57966229 (OP)
+Well, if you want to half ass it, then that's fine.
+--- 57973070
+>>57966229 (OP)
+I'm sitting on 13k rds of 7.62x39.
+4k 5.56.
+Probably 3-4k 7.62x51.
+1.5-2k 9mm.
+It's getting to be a problem.
+--- 57973145
+>>57969682
+I go through at least a box every time I go “hunting” because I’m an adhd moron that makes it like 30 minutes before trying to shoot faraway stumps or whatever. Have been out at least once a year and haven’t actually killed anything since I was like 17. 
+
+For me hunting is more about doing redneck shit innawoods than actually having to kill and clean some shit.
+--- 57973794
+>>57973070
+Storage is the problem...other than that fuck it.
+--- 57974275
+>>57966229 (OP)
+If you are considering prepping by stockpiling that's good. But consider becoming a survivalist instead. You'll need ammo, but not as much as you think.
+--- 57974767
+>>57966229 (OP)
+It depends on what your habits are, if you are a hunter not very much. If you are a target shooter probably a lot. If you are a schizo you most certainly never have enough. If you reload probably less
+--- 57976479
+>>57973070
+Problem? No. I have a problem, no matter how much ammo I stockpile, I always end up shooting it.
+--- 57976623
+>>57973070
+How many rifles in 7.62x39 do you have?
+--- 57976684
+All of it and more.
+--- 57976807
+>>57966229 (OP)
+Poorfag anon here, but I buy ammo when I can.
+I've got about 700 rounds of .308
+600 or so of .357
+300 of .44 mag
+I reload the revolver calibers, and I would do so for .308 too, if my PTR didn't mangle it.
+
+The .22lr and .38 spl pile has been breeding, so I have no idea how much if it there is.
+--- 57976842
+>>57966229 (OP)
+I feel like 500 for each gun is a reasonable amount
+--- 57976873
+>>57966229 (OP)
+You gotta factor usage as other anons like >>57966361 said. Don't measure it as how much but how long, and have enough to last whatever concern you may have (election cycle/shooter cycle panic buy as an example). In terms of full metal jacket range ammo I buy 5.56, 22lr, and 7.62x54r in bulk but buy the equivalent hunting ammo for each by the box, my dad's bought about 60 rounds total for his 3006 durr rifle and has yet to go through half in the several years he's had it.
+
+Realistically though, short of nuclear war most common calibers will be available even if prices fluctuate severely, you're really only winning on price by stacking a ton of ammo
+--- 57976904
+>>57966229 (OP)
+On your person? As much as you can carry!
+In reserve? As much as you can afford!
+--- 57979621
+>>57976623
+Three AKs in 7.62x39.
+And a metric fuck ton of mags. At least 60 steel. Dozens more pmags.
+--- 57979667
+>>57976904
+Selecting a battle rifle as my primary SHTF rifle has really made setting up a plate carrier with a "sufficient" number of mag pouches into a major pain in the ass.
+--- 57979742
+>>57979667
+And yes, I am retarded. Probably going to wind up with some molle placard and three tactical tailor double 308 pouches.
+3x20? Ew.
+6x20? Ooooh.
+No, I will (probably) never in a million years NEED this equipment. But I don't have kids, so I spend my money how I want.
+--- 57979746
+>>57966229 (OP)
+US Army doctrine is minimum 6+1 per person, which is typically for POGs and others away from the front lines so they don't get Jessica Lynched. Some guys on the line will say thats how much they carry but I typically like 12+1 on me, plus 8 more in my pack. 
+Nobody has ever regretted having too much ammo in a firefight, but there are plenty of dead men who ran out.
+>>57979667
+For my personal gear I have chest rigs and body armor set up for every gun, and I just don't like putting battle rifle mags on a plate carrier. It's personal preference but I have 12 battle rifle mags on a FLC and its actually pretty comfy
+--- 57979754
+>>57979667
+Talk to me as if I were a very stupid child, or a dog.
+How exactly do you have your BR rig setup?
+--- 57979757
+>>57966229 (OP)
+about t'ree fiddy, or enough
+whichever works out
+--- 57979791
+>>57976842
+>500 for each gun
+I feel this is a good rule of thumb for general. Make some adjustments for multiple guns in the same caliber. Not all guns are equal, so some you might want more if you think you will have to rely on it. Others less if they're collectable pieces and more like funs.
+
+If people are talking about SHTF, add a zero (5000 rounds each gun, minimum, no adjustments down, EVERY gun in the house). Also, reloading system that covers your most important calibers, with copious supplies. Better have full tool kit and basic spare parts to keep all your guns functioning without access to a gunsmith for 5 decades.
+--- 57980400
+>>57966229 (OP)
+3K rounds minimum, 2K for your main rifle, 500 for sidearm, the other 500 is for emergency sharing among allies, which this should be more of sidearms than rifle because you most likely will give your noguns friend some cheap shit gun for self defense that is just easy to use, now if you share with him a 22lr rifle, that would be better imo.

k/57966657.txt

@@ -378,3 +378,314 @@ Riots, assassinations, kidnappings, bombings, prison breaks, it's a very turbule
 Do you think a nigger invented the light bulb too?
 
 The Iran-Iraq war is truly underrated. People need to be reminded why Saddam was actually the good guy in this.
+--- 57969039
+>>57966657 (OP)
+The campaigns of Aurelian from 270 to 275.
+
+>Must have a clear "main character" for the war
+Emperor Aurelian, duh
+>Must include at least two nonwhite characters in the main cast
+Lots of mid-easterners in the story, pick any
+>Must have at least two female characters, one who is in the action as a soldier or resistance fighter, and one who is in a fancy dress
+pretty one: Zenobia (villain) and we will shoehorn in a Sarmatian warrior woman
+>Must have lots of exciting action scenes
+Just open a history book.
+--- 57971428
+>>57966657 (OP)
+The wars of Justinian. The cast would include:
+The general Belisarius (the main character)
+His wife Antonina (who accompanied him on campaign and could take active part in battles in the fictionalized version of the story),
+Her bff Empress Theodora (who was a former prostitute, which would make prime fodder for the mandatory HBO sexy content), 
+Emperor Justinian the Great (who attempted to reconquer the Roman Empire and almost succeeded)
+The (non-white) Emperor Khosrow I of Persia (who would be the equally honorable, equally skilled recurring opponent of Belisarius in a very Rommel/Patton sort of way)
+
+There'd be political skullduggery, sex scenes, heretics, riots, barbarians, a plague, and wars on three continents. The only downside is that I can't think of another major non-white character, but given the Romans' borderline indifference to race (their primary focus was on Roman/Romanized-peoples versus uncivilized barbarians, and later Christians versus everyone else, not skin color) you could semi-realistically portray any number of second-tier historical characters as non-white.
+Basically, think of it as a spiritual successor to HBO's Rome.
+--- 57971599
+>>57966657 (OP)
+>Must not be WWI or WWII (too played out)
+Falklands
+>Must have a clear "main character" for the war
+Sandy Woodward
+>Must include at least two nonwhite characters in the main cast
+Argentina so there will be loads
+>Must have at least two female characters, one who is in the action as a soldier or resistance fighter, and one who is in a fancy dress
+Er, can probably find a woman on one of the STUFT and Margaret Thatcher dressed as Margaret Thatcher (a well known Halloween costume)
+>Must have lots of exciting action scenes
+Not a problem.
+--- 57971619
+>>57966657 (OP)
+Korean War
+WWII vet keeping his men alive and wondering if his contributions were worth it in the post-world-war world.
+A Japanese and a Mexican. You can have a interment camp sob story, and a racism sob story, respectively.
+Two MASH nurses, the best you're gonna get.
+--- 57971660
+>>57966657 (OP)
+band of VatnikDV
+--- 57972008
+The Great Siege of Gibraltar
+>consistent geographic location 
+>long timeline (three and a half years)
+>rife for drama
+>easy access to Moors for diversity
+>thrilling raids, sea battles, bombardments and sabotage
+--- 57972293
+>>57966657 (OP)
+Korean war. Korean and jap. Korean and jap rape survivors... or not.
+--- 57972408
+>>57966894
+I will never forget the Toyota Charge...
+--- 57972460
+>>57966657 (OP)
+The air war of the Gulf War, 1991.
+--- 57972511
+>>57968422
+>Muh hoplite charges
+>Muh baggage train
+Pretty based tho ngl
+--- 57972563
+>>57967247
+Honestly I would be really interested in that. A live action version would be interesting to see particularly with how they choose to do the tanks and weapons.
+--- 57972852
+>>57967432
+Just read about this. Holy shit it all started because one retard who stepped way outta line.
+--- 57973057
+>>57971599
+This
+but the main character should be a Royal Marine sergeant
+I'd prefer an ensemble cast however: additionally featuring Sharkey Ward, Julian Thompson, the Conqueror's skipper, some SAS trooper (perhaps the one who fired the first Stinger), some Para, a frigate captain, and Rick Jolly
+--- 57973900
+>>57967171
+I've always wanted to do an Emu War movie, but take some liberties.
+
+Officer in charge of the culling team is an over-age reserve captain whose many requests to be allowed to join the ANZAC force in WWI were denied in favor of forcing him into an administrative role. Now he finally gets to have his "war". The machine gunners are fresh faced kids with no combat experience, but the driver turns out to have been a Lewis gunner at Galipoli who is still getting over his shell shock, and whips them into shape.
+
+The emus could have a leader, essentially a bigger, blacker emu who seems to anticipate and thwart the actions of the hunters. Really play him up, like the shark in jaws, all threatening and mysterious, even though he's just a fucking big bird.
+
+Ridiculous follies ensue, but the movie ends with a final climactic battle in which many emus are killed and a valley full of farmers is saved, but then the camera pans out to reveal the many thousands of emus closing in on the valley from all sides.
+--- 57973936
+>>57966657 (OP)
+TV adaptation of Death to the French/Rifleman Dodd. British marksman gets separated from his unit during the Peninsular War in Portugal, and goes from village to village to try and reconnect with his unit, waging a one man guerrilla campaign against Napoleon’s army all the while
+--- 57973969
+>>57973936
+Why not a big budget Sharpe adaptation? As period faithful as possible, like Master And Commander was.
+--- 57974600
+>>57968615
+You can just plug in any Arrow Video release from 70s Italy. Or, even better, Romanzo Criminale tv series.
+--- 57974629
+>>57966683
+> pmc strelkov kills isis and xoxol extremists in the syrian desert, aswell as executing CIA spies
+I think OP wanted something realistic anon
+--- 57974866
+>>57966657 (OP)
+Siege of Slavyansk obviously
+>strelkov
+>various ethnic volunteers that actually fit
+>female medical workers
+>constant action, race against the clock
+>ending leaves people wanting to see more, opportunity for 10x more miniseries
+>constant struggle dealing with various seedy characters in the world of the proxies
+People love antiheros, just look at the Sopranos. There's no reason this wouldn't kick ass
+--- 57974969
+>>57966657 (OP)
+Forever War TV adaptation, spoilers if you haven’t read the book:
+>Must not be WWI or WWII (too played out)
+War is set in the future fighting against ayylmaos.
+>Must have a clear "main character" for the war
+William Mandela, “lives” for about three centuries due to relativistic time dilation.
+>Must include at least two nonwhite characters in the main cast
+Every human during one of the story arcs is grown in a vat that looks vaguely Polynesian. Even before that the members in the main character’s first platoon has pretty much at least one member of every race.
+>Must have at least two female characters, one who is in the action as a soldier or resistance fighter
+Pick any female grunt. Female soldiers can serve as infantry thanks to powered armor suits rendering the biological strength differences between men and women a non-issue.
+>and one who is in a fancy dress
+Any sexy female medical staff who are genetically modified to look hot. 
+>Must have lots of exciting action scenes
+One scene has the infantry shredding through aliens with their bare hands after having a psychological switch tripped by a trigger phrase that turns them into mindless berserkers. Also another scene where the main character and his subordinates get trapped in a field that neutralizes all electrical processes so they have to resort to fighting hand-to-hand using medieval-style weaponry. Main character also goes through a combat simulator where he fights in a conflict as a soldier/warrior from every known culture on Earth. You can create at least a few throwaway action episodes from this.
+
+Bonus “woke” points:
+>Future state-enforced homosexuality, everyone on Earth is eventually gay 
+>Transgender military officers
+>Military sanctioned orgies
+>Main character gets attacked and called an “old queer” because he’s heterosexual
+>Far future technology that can turn a biological man into a biological woman and vice versa as much as you want
+--- 57975016
+>>57966657 (OP)
+>Must not be WWI or WWII (too played out)
+Trafalgar, Brits against the Frogs
+>Must have a clear "main character" for the war
+Captain of the ship, set as Aubrey from Master and Commander
+>Must include at least two nonwhite characters in the main cast
+It's a British ship, you'll have shitloads of different casting opportunities.
+>Must have at least two female characters, one who is in the action as a soldier or resistance fighter, and one who is in a fancy dress
+Have a member of Aubrey's crew be a girl who joined under disguise as a man, or who took the role of her brother or something after he was press ganged. Have the other be Aubrey's main squeeze.
+>Must have lots of exciting action scenes
+Its Trafalgar in the Age of Sail, you'll have plenty of opportunities to blow people in half with cannonballs or do ghetto-ass surgery by candlelight while removing .55 caliber balls from mooks.
+--- 57975296
+>>57966657 (OP)
+RETURN
+
+A biopic told from the perspective of Xenophon, deep into Persia.
+
+>massive mercenary army assembles in Greece and comes to help the rebel Persian duke
+> they come to fight but once they get deep into the AO they learn their employer has been slain 
+>the army has to get back
+
+Complete with Larissa, a Persian-Greek warrior and spy who seduces Xenophon for her own ends and then falls in love with him but betrays him anyway, but he escapes
+
+Phillipia, a strong Macedonian womyn who travels with the army as an advisor (ahistorical? I dunno)
+
+tense battles, betrayal, bolts of inspiration-- all trying just to get back home with all their men. 
+
+The biggest enemy is themselves.
+
+That'll be $14k, thanks
+--- 57975311
+>>57968385
+awesome that we both had the same thought
+--- 57976845
+>>57967247
+Yeah I'll throw in my vote with VC, cute baker girl is cute
+--- 57977029
+>>57966894
+I remember a quote from a Tanzanian Field Marshall Marwa Kambaie during the Ugandan-Tanzanian War
+A reporter asks;
+>Where are you going?
+Field Marshall Responds
+>We are going to Arua to kill Amin (The current dictator of Uganda)
+>When will you be in Aura?
+>I do not know, because we are walking there.
+Actually found the clip. https://www.britishpathe.com/asset/134163/
+--- 57977035
+>>57966657 (OP)
+Some "the son" or roughrider's style movie about the Pancho villa punitive expedition or the Veracruz occupation
+--- 57977284
+>>57967331
+10/10, would watch when absolutely plastered.
+--- 57977377
+kosovo insurgency
+>centered around confidante to Jashari
+>full of nonwhites
+--- 57977750
+I too am invoking the lack of specification around whether the war can be Real or Fictional
+>Must not be WWI or WWII (too played out)
+The 1995 Belkan War, specifically the Invasion of Ustio, a prequel to the events of AC Zero
+>Must have a clear "main character" for the war
+An Ustian Viggen Pilot, the leader of a greenhorn Viggen flight (fresh out of training prior to the outbreak of war) dedicated to slowing down the Belkans so the military can build up forces and call for aid.
+>Must include at least two nonwhite characters in the main cast
+1. An Asian woman, the Flight leads Wingman, number 2 of the flight and primary love interest
+2. A black dude, a mechanic trying to keep the flight running through stretched supply lines
+>Must have at least two female characters, one who is in the action as a soldier or resistance fighter, and one who is in a fancy dress
+1. The wingman listed above (efficiency!) 
+2, The main character's younger sister, a subplot follows her and the rest of the family escaping the war as the Belkan occupation sweeps through the country.
+>Must have lots of exciting action scenes
+It's inspired by Ace Combat, that's a given. The choice of Viggens was deliberate, for High Speed, low altitude hit and runs against the Belkan Army, operating out of highway strips and other improvised airbases to prevent detection. Meanwhile, the legendary aces of the Belkan Air Force attempt to hunt them down, outmatching them both in experience and aircraft capability, forcing them to fight an aerial guerilla warfare campaign. All the while contending with their aging and obsolete airframes in the face of dwindling supplies and safe ports of call
+Any wrong call means failure. They can't go toe-to-toe with Belkans and they know it. They are nevertheless duty-bound, even if all they can manage is a desperate fighting retreat to buy time, in the hope that help will come.
+--- 57977805
+>>57966657 (OP)
+Grenada: Urgent Fury
+>easy main characters choices. Glowey drug runner embedded as officer.
+>easily two non whites in the 1980s US military. Antics and adventures of the supply and personalists dealing with the clusterfuck on the backend.
+>Grenada civilian fighters. Both are killed.
+>Grenada EXPLOSION!
+
+Lowkey enough that few people actually know about it, short enough to be 10 episodes long. You are welcome, hollywood scum.
+
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Grenada
+--- 57978456
+>>57977750
+The problem with japanese and I guess most fictional warfare stories is the obsession with giving each side a platform. It's either trying to humanize the most genocidal cunts, or make them look like cool edgy sociopaths.
+
+The recent Gundam had a decent run until the latest episode. GWoT is easy as fuck to portray and they still couldn't get it right. No drones, no air strikes, no IEDs. Instead let's make terrorists look like noble freedom fighters going out in a blaze of glory against the evil new world order. And somehow manage to defeat all the technologically superior mobile suits in melee. It's just all over the place.
+--- 57978499
+>Must not be WWI or WWII (too played out)
+'Nam, from the perspective of the Viet Kong
+>Must have a clear "main character" for the war
+Some Tunnel Rat, just make one up
+>Must include at least two nonwhite characters in the main cast
+It's all gooks
+>Must have at least two female characters, one who is in the action as a soldier or resistance fighter, and one who is in a fancy dress
+Tunnel Rat waifu bait. Get back to me on the other one.
+>Must have lots of exciting action scenes
+Boy howdy will it
+--- 57978521
+>>57967182
+lol
+--- 57979300
+>>57966657 (OP)
+>Must not be WWI or WWII (too played out)
+My artsy WWI pipe dream that will never happen is a movie where there’s a few characters but in every scene they’re played by different actors to represent the losses or something.
+--- 57979359
+Toyota wars'll be my vote.
+Trouble comes with the dress and women. Maybe have some Amazonian officer of Gadaffi's female bodyguard.
+
+Sponsored by Toyota.
+--- 57980155
+>>57966687
+>POCs
+>the irish aren't white
+this could work
+--- 57980178
+>>57966657 (OP)
+>>Must not be WWI or WWII (too played out)
+Russian Civil war is not WW1, sorry
+>>Must have a clear "main character" for the war
+The Mad Baron
+>>Must include at least two nonwhite characters in the main cast
+Siberian lackeys
+>>Must have at least two female characters, one who is in the action as a soldier or resistance fighter, and one who is in a fancy dress
+Some gook hooker that he screws+batshit crazy commie chick they capture (he also screws her)
+>>Must have lots of exciting action scenes
+Done
+--- 57980273
+>>57967311
+too based for this world sadly
+--- 57980299
+>>57966657 (OP)
+>no mentions of the Boshin War
+It has all of these (even the requisite fightan girl is a historical character), though it would struggle with having a distinct MC unless you made her the lead. I think the Japanese already made a show with her as the MC but I forget the name
+--- 57980301
+I’d do Beasts, Men, and Gods. It’s technically about a war since the main character becomes a staff officer under Sternberg. 
+>Russian Civil War - On the run from the NKVD
+>Ferdinand Ossendowski himself
+>there’s crazy Siberian holy men, all manner of ethnics in the collapsing Russian Empire, Jews in the White Army staff offices, etc.
+>There’s a crazy communist chick that killed her own family and wants to kill main character
+>there’s shootouts with bandits, battles, atrocities, horrors, comedic moments, and drug induced hyper spiritualistic trips
+>ends with the invasion of Poland, his books being burned and his grave desecrated
+--- 57980342
+>>57966657 (OP)
+A miniseries following Mad Mike Hoare's command of 5 Commando in the Congo Crisis. 
+
+>Must have a clear "main character" for the war
+Easy. Mad Mike himself.
+
+>Must include at least two nonwhite characters in the main cast
+Also easy. Mad Mike had Cuban exiles fighting with him and Congolese soldiers. Have a wisecracking Cuban sidekick type guy and a Congolese sergeant or something. 
+
+>Must have at least two female characters, one who is in the action as a soldier or resistance fighter, and one who is in a fancy dress
+Two rescued women attach themselves to the party early in the series. One would be one of the Belgian colonists rescued by 5 Commando and the other would be a Congolese woman. The Belgian would be a field medic and the Congolese woman would be your typical bad bitch female fighter character.
+
+>Must have lots of exciting action scenes
+Literally just ten episodes of 5 Commando curb stomping Congolese rebels. Their entire operation was basically just conducting thunder runs through rebel territory to act as a spearhead for the Congolese Army.
+--- 57980356
+>>57967910
+It's not. It's just:
+>mary sue officer is sent to deal with threat #1
+>it's actually threat #2
+>insert love interest somewhere
+>oh by the way, mary sue officer is actually a coward, how quirky!
+--- 57980395
+>>57967638
+>they wouldn't mention or would minimize the slavery, human sacrifice, slaughter
+Like you did for Cortes, retard?
+--- 57980426
+>>57978456
+>GWoT is easy as fuck to portray and they still couldn't get it right. 
+It's a children's cartoon meant to sell you plastic robot model kits.
+
+>No drones, no air strikes, no IEDs.
+You can't sell plastic model kits of those.
+
+>And somehow manage to defeat all the technologically superior mobile suits in melee.
+The Earthians lost every single soldier they deployed on that field except Olcott; all other pilots and everyone in that technical truck all die. How many more "wins" like that do you think they can take?
+--- 57980500
+THE RAPE OF NANKING MINISERIES

k/57966880.txt

@@ -248,3 +248,380 @@ And I'm genuinely surprised I'm the only one who when there.
 --- 57968336
 >>57966904
 A plastic bag with blood in it
+--- 57969481
+>>57966880 (OP)
+i fucken love neuromancer
+--- 57969708
+>>57966880 (OP)
+>>57966893
+>>57966898
+would be better with a small dovetail
+--- 57970046
+>>57969708
+We tried to emulate Deckard’s grips
+--- 57970084
+>>57970046
+For comparison
+>https://litter.catbox.moe/mqy60l.MOV
+--- 57970093
+>>57966880 (OP)
+Almost feels lewd
+--- 57970142
+I would 100% buy a LCRx22lr decker's grip
+--- 57970184
+>>57966880 (OP)
+cannot believe this is finally coming back after 5 years, I couldn't be happier. But god dammit, I have too many other guns i want to buy and now I have to buy an LCR?
+--- 57970202
+>>57966963
+--- 57970216
+>>57967201
+>I'm thinking about how much i hate myself and how I saw my oneitis with someone else earlier today and how its over and i want to die
+I bet she doesn't think of you at all while the other guy is on top of her giving her a creampie. Get over her and move on dude
+--- 57970234
+>>57967600
+>>57967427
+>>57967291
+>>57967200
+>>57967156
+Are they gonna be in orange? I don't even own an LCR (yet) but I almost bought a pair of orange grips on ebay a few weeks back before they sold out. Not sure of that's from you and your peeps or not.
+--- 57970236
+>>57966904
+Very strange holster.
+--- 57970237
+>>57966904
+Looks like candy :)
+--- 57970246
+>>57970234
+>orange
+meant amber
+--- 57970257
+>>57967291
+Who's WE though? what name do we look out for, or is this cesspool gonna be the storefront?
+--- 57970261
+Not sure how to feel about this one.
+--- 57970266
+>>57966904
+>Be honest
+>what were you thinking
+>SOON™
+
+TROON™
+--- 57970355
+>>57970234
+“Get_a_grip_on_it” is not us.
+
+We will have an amber version, along with a few other colors.
+
+>>57970257
+Neon Forest Industries. We still haven’t fully decided on a logo
+--- 57970407
+>>57970355
+I guess I’ll plug the social media accounts for the company. I will post any updates on these pages, as well as make a post on /k/
+
+>https://instagram.com/neonforestindustries?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
+>https://twitter.com/neonforestind?s=21
+>https://youtube.com/@neonforestindustries
+--- 57970606
+>>57970184
+...theyre only like $700 on a bad day
+--- 57970645
+>>57970606
+It’s funny. I remember getting mine for like $350 in 2018
+--- 57970682
+>>57970645
+I said bad day
+or for a brand new one at (((MSRP)))
+which isnt a barrier at all
+I was going to get a Nu-Python back in 2020 then covid hit, then I wanted a new fresh imported manurhin, but they dont import very many of them, $1200-$5000 pails in comparison to a mere $700
+--- 57970698
+yeah
+--- 57970709
+>>57966880 (OP)
+This looks like a anal toy
+--- 57970723
+>>57970709
+you don't have a tactical derringer up your ass at all times?
+--- 57970749
+>>57966904
+The grips from those guns from that one sci fi movie.
+--- 57970791
+>>57970355
+>>57970407
+Are you guys willing to make grips for pistols like 1911s, Tokarevs, etc? 
+One of my Toks woul look snazzy with one of those, just spitballing btw.
+--- 57970838
+>>57966904
+squirt gun.
+--- 57970881
+>>57967084
+This is the shit that'll push me over the edge to get a .22 bersa
+--- 57970922
+>>57970791
+We’re planning on making grips for more pistols, but we’re waiting until we get this product out first before we move on to anything else
+--- 57970958
+>>57970922
+Bless you guys. There's a million companies making shitty identical tactical practical guns and accessories for duty combat home defense usage, I just want more fun things.
+--- 57970971
+>>57966904
+Those resin chiappa rhino grips that anon never delivered.
+--- 57971018
+>>57970971
+I’m tracking that I only took a single order for rhino grips, and those were delivered
+
+Send me a message on the instagram page and we can sort this out
+--- 57971021
+Revolvers have a foam bladder in them for recoil.
+--- 57971132
+>>57966904
+water pistol, the 3rd post was an abortion
+--- 57971186
+>>57970355
+will absolutely keep an eye out. If you're jotting down requests, nothing has felt better in my gorilla mitts than these two-piece clamshell Rossi grips (J-frame, curved butt not square) I'd been looking for a soare set from parts lots on auction sites, when I do bag a set I'd be willing to mail them for a reference for you? you know, in the future
+--- 57971206
+>>57971018
+Oh, I never ordered any. I thought they had never actually made it to production but I guess I must have just fuckin missed the boat. 
+Didn't even realize you were the same anon.
+--- 57971229
+>>57970922
+Thanks anon, cheers.
+--- 57971300
+>>57966904
+cross section nakadashi
+--- 57971465
+>>57966904
+Where did you get this picture of my dildo?
+--- 57971470
+>>57966904
+a water pistol
+--- 57971822
+>>57971186
+I’ll keep it in mind. If you ever pick up those grips, message the instagram page and we can discuss it
+--- 57972176
+>>57970355
+glad I held off buying them then. Will your grips also fit the LCRx? Any ballpark figures on pricing?
+--- 57972262
+>>57972176
+We’re looking at $79.99 for the LCR grip
+--- 57972420
+>>57972262
+--- 57972431
+>>57966904
+--- 57972580
+>>57966880 (OP)
+>>57972262
+>just started looking around at pocket revolvers the other week
+Guess I'm ordering a Ruger LCR when I get home today.
+--- 57972648
+Make an acid-lime glow-in-the-dark one just for me.
+--- 57972664
+For some reason I thought that was a vertically bisected human foot and was wincing from 2nd hand imaginary pain before realizing it was a metal plate that was ripped out of somebody's legt, which was even worse.
+
+Then I found out it was a jelly globbery fleshlight revolver and that wasnt as bad.
+--- 57972665
+>>57966880 (OP)
+That's going to turn completely white from stress after a dozen times at the range
+basically LARPers ITT. nu/k/ sucks
+--- 57972761
+>>57966880 (OP)
+Very cool OP; thanks for reminding me that I would like to learn how to make my own fancy grips for my guns.
+--- 57972814
+>>57972665
+It’s not hair anon
+--- 57972822
+>>57972665
+>Nu/k/
+You're so fucking gay
+--- 57972827
+>>57967106
+Bro if you actually sell these OG style ones I'd be tempted to just buy a fucking LCR
+I've been dreaming of these bitches for years
+--- 57972839
+>>57967200
+Did you do these ones too?
+--- 57972859
+>>57970355
+Can you make a version out of Ultem, plz?
+--- 57973018
+>>57970046
+>>57970084
+Any chance you guys will be able to swing a set of Beretta 92A1 side panels? Once you're happy with the consistency and after you've released the revolver grips, of course.
+--- 57973062
+>>57966880 (OP)
+Oh, thought you had put the barrel into a pocket pussy at first
+--- 57973109
+>>57966904
+Dildo.
+--- 57973502
+>>57970407
+yeah can I uhhhhhhhhhh get one of these grips except for a 92FS
+--- 57973614
+>>57973109
+am still thinking that tbqh
+--- 57973616
+>>57973018
+>>57973502
+might as well make a list, OP 
+add 84 grips to it with the 92's kek
+--- 57973648
+>>57967437
+Unfathomably based
+--- 57973662
+>>57970261
+Reminds me of a Mauser Broomhandle for some reason
+--- 57973750
+>>57972665
+>larpers
+yes, its a blade runner larp thread. Why did you click it?
+--- 57973811
+>>57972665
+Ultem would resist crazing
+--- 57973924
+>>57972665
+its not pvc or acrylic
+--- 57973967
+>>57972431
+BASED
+--- 57973975
+>>57966904
+Onahole
+--- 57973996
+>>57971300
+l-lewd
+--- 57974011
+>>57967200
+i would carry this in a heartbeat. revolverchads won
+--- 57974034
+>>57966880 (OP)
+do these fit the lcrx? if i bought these itd probably be for a fun gun rather than a carry one and I'm not a huge fan of shooting DAO. Looks like some other grips can fit both.
+--- 57974493
+>>57967631
+--- 57974519
+>>57974034
+>>57972176
+seconding on if these will fit the LCRx
+--- 57974581
+>>57972262
+Do you have a website or place you can buy them online yet? I mean the OG ones, as well as the new ones you plan to come out with, where will those be sold?
+--- 57974608
+>>57967106
+I'd like to see these on a Rhino.
+I don't know why, I just think it'd be cool
+--- 57974915
+>>57973616
+92S set should be doable too. Only change is location of mag catch.
+--- 57975080
+Oh shit replicant special anon is back hell yeah
+
+I tried and mostly failed to make blade runner grips for my p01 because of you. Never really figured it out to a point I was happy with em but learned a lot trying
+--- 57975191
+>>57973811
+We are using “WaterClear® Ultra 10122” resin
+
+>>57974581
+There’s no website yet. Once we start selling I’ll post on the social media accounts I linked. I don’t think we will be selling the original grips anymore since they are Hogues patented design unfortunately
+--- 57975759
+Why does only the Ruger get the bladerunner treatment? I never seen other guns with these grips.
+--- 57975793
+>>57974519
+They will fit the LCRx. I know a few of my customers has the x model and it was fine. Our grip has a very similar profile to the hogue grip. While I have been able to test it myself, I’m very confident that our grip fits both
+--- 57975818
+>>57975759
+Because the Ruger looks particularly cyberpunk already. The Rhino and the Kimber K6 are also good candidates. Clear grips in general aren't particularly unique, but this particular style is directly inspired by Blade Runner.
+--- 57975883
+>>57972431
+for years I have this exact reaction pic saved on my hard drive but I never found a fitting situation so post it. Cheers to you my good sir.
+--- 57975909
+>>57966904
+Looks like something a homo who isn't even liked by other homos would own
+--- 57975948
+>>57975759
+It’s because the LCR is the perfect attainable cyberpunk gun
+>antiquated design mixed with modern polymer construction
+>tacked on high-tech attachments like laser and fiber optic sights
+
+That’s not to say we don’t have other guns in mind ;)
+--- 57976669
+>>57975948
+Excellently said. LCR has a unique blend of "high tech low life" and "simple item modified with futuristic bolt-ons" that suits it well to the style.
+--- 57976681
+this is ugly as sin, why?
+--- 57976752
+Use the molds to make gummies and sell them so I can have a mid-range trip lunch.
+--- 57976801
+>>57966904
+Thought #1: fuck, it's another biometric gun thread
+Thought #2: sex toy
+--- 57976846
+>>57975818
+god dammit why don't those retards make that variant in 22lr its not fair
+--- 57976920
+>>57967084
+>Personally I really want Shin’s red dragon motif grips from Neuromancer
+The one on the not|bersa thunder .22 ppk knockoff knockoff?
+
+Also you have the text about the bubba's cut down magnum revolver?
+--- 57977006
+>>57976846
+They do.
+--- 57977020
+>>57966880 (OP)
+Holy shit dude, you're still going?
+I remember you're earlier threads in '19.
+Nice to see you got the bubble problem fixed.
+--- 57977034
+>>57976920
+Yep. The fitz special with explosive rounds?
+
+I also want turners revolver
+--- 57977084
+Okay anons, which LCR do I get for peak Blade Running?
+--- 57977094
+>>57966880 (OP)
+Amazing, please do it for the vz61 scorpion.
+I'd buy one for sure.
+--- 57977104
+>>57977084
+327 Federal Magnum.
+--- 57977229
+>>57977006
+no they don't. >>57975818 is the lcrx, with an exposed hammer. the pic you posted is DAO. They make an exposed hammer in in 22 magnum but not in 22lr. They also make an lcrx in 22lr but its the full sized one that somehow still keeps the name of 'compact revolver'
+--- 57977250
+>>57977229
+3 inches is not fullsized.
+--- 57977266
+>>57977250
+thats what she said, heh
+--- 57977303
+>>57977250
+aside from barrel legnth its pretty standard size for a revolver. My point is that they don't make the standard lcr size in 22lr even though they have a 22 mag one.
+--- 57977352
+>>57977303
+you can put the short grips on the LCRx 3 inch and it's sexy as fuck
+--- 57977921
+>>57966904
+Sticking it in my ass. Or my boyfriends ass.
+--- 57978568
+>>57977084
+>blade running
+the Super GP100
+--- 57978968
+>>57977352
+oooh, that's neat
+--- 57979223
+>>57977084
+You get one of those .45-70 Govt derringers instead.
+--- 57979798
+>>57967063
+You can do better anon
+--- 57979803
+>>57966904
+A gun cuck cage
+--- 57979851
+>>57966904
+I was thinking OP is a worthless namefag and tripfag. Filtered.
+--- 57979925
+>>57966880 (OP)
+I work for a gun company, not a higher up or anything but do you think these are tough enough for a production handgun? If so I'll suggest them to my boss. There's something uniquely classy about amber, I'd like to see it on all kinds of guns.
+--- 57980020
+>>57979925
+I think so. Reach out to me on instagram and we can discuss it

k/57966983.txt

@@ -161,3 +161,301 @@ But you know I'm not a limp-wrist sissy and I can carry the load and handle the
 --- 57968538
 >>57968420
 Only due to scarcity and scalping. The amount of people who want SCARs has always far outstripped the SCARs available within their price range.
+--- 57969328
+>>57968346
+Nah it's doing ok and a major improvement on what Poland had before. Also with the production lines set up they can make some good money off it. Already an order from Africa in the books.
+--- 57970243
+I think you are vastly overestimating how many people here own a SR-25, a SCAR-17, or a 417. I argue for most people the allure of the AR and the AK is not "military gun" but cheap ammo and runs like a pistol.
+--- 57970562
+>>57967258
+Take a rifle
+
+Split it in half
+
+I own one half,
+--- 57970824
+>>57967680
+ULTRA-AP RATED!
+EPIC TECHNOLOGY!
+LVL 8++ ULTRAWEAVE SUPERCOMPOSITE
+
+I want to like these plates but holy shit they look worse than the GRIP ZONE era Springfields
+--- 57970878
+>>57966983 (OP)
+>cowboy gun enthusiast
+>mentions men shoving things up their ass in the second paragraph
+pottery.
+--- 57972452
+>>57970824
+When the only competitors are rumored models of spookplate, you are allowed to go crazy with the labeling. Or am I supposed to pretend it doesnt dab and shit on the corpse of every other available plate?
+--- 57972717
+>>57967162
+Hey, remember when the M16 was an abhorrent piece of shit at launch too? So much so, GIs in Vietnam were trashing them and picking their M14 back up?
+--- 57972768
+What is it with arg posters and having board wide shit fits?
+--- 57972773
+>>57967264
+Tommy wants $2300-$5000 for his cobbled together Nerf guns that won't feed, won't eject, won't cycle, and won't take a suppressor. Every single video of this gun shows it being, at absolute best, a finnicky and picky eater or, at worst, a bigger jam-o-matic than anything nuRemington ever produced. TommyBuilt is a Jewish front scamming people out of their money.
+--- 57972801
+>>57972768
+>why does the general populated exclusively by tripfags, furries, bronies, and pedophiles have autistic episodes and feel the need to shove it in everyone's faces?
+--- 57972817
+>>57967162
+>Rear half of the handguard not visible
+Really gets the noggin joggin
+--- 57972833
+>>57967188
+Never understood it why people were obsessed with this g36 that stayed too long in oven, fucking hideous
+--- 57972922
+>>57970243
+
+You can build or obtain an AK or AR-15 for like 300 to 400. And yeah you can buy 5.56 and 7.62x39 for very cheap.
+
+That's still a choice between 5.56 and 7.62x39, while the XM7 fires 6.8. The 308 / 7.62x51 has greater kinetic energy at closer ranges, like those for piercing armor, as well as a longer effective range, yet the 6.8 is lighter with a flatter trajectory.
+
+I would prefer the 308 and the 7.62x51 for cost, availability, kinetic energy, and range. As for the heavier trajectory, well this a matter of skill that is not difficult to deal with. You can still place the same shots, and even further shots, if the bullet trajectory is slightly less flat.
+
+It is definitely a lighter cartridge than the 308, but the XM7 is also carried along with plates, helmet, mags, pouches, assault packs, and so on. If you are just carrying a 308/7.62x51 rifle, maybe some mags, in plainclothes, you are still carrying less weight.
+--- 57973185
+>>57966983 (OP)
+Are you fucking kidding me? It's the opposite. You still have boomer spreading misinformation about the m16 vs m14 debate. We will have people arguing to the grave that "new gun is bad because ---".
+--- 57973210
+Why does it come in FDE instead of black?
+--- 57973290
+>>57966983 (OP)
+It looks complicated or even impossible to reload. I am not interested
+--- 57973328
+>>57966983 (OP)
+I only buy aks
+--- 57973348
+>>57973210
+Might be taking after HK's precaution to limit how much the gun heats up when laying in the sun for long periods after the anecdotes of the G36 "melting".
+--- 57973380
+>>57968375
+behold, a cowboy gun
+--- 57973424
+>>57973210
+Because it was a rifle made to fight in the long distances of Afghanistan, with the added bonus of vibe checking Chinese level 3 plates that the PLA is mass adopting. The brass is always trying to win the last war, only this time, they had a little bit of foresight.
+--- 57973499
+>>57967071
+Does your inaccurate stereotype have $6k to drop on a new rifle? And if they do, then who is buying all the 
+>just as guuuuddd 
+PSAs right now? Because if I asked you this question separately you’d say it was the same people and because they are poorfags. You know I’m right.
+--- 57973521
+>>57967206
+Agreed
+
+I might convert to the hybrid case if cost becomes equivalent. But it’s not even the best “next step” in ammo
+--- 57973532
+>>57967230
+Free float barrels return to the middle dipshit. They don’t stay permanently off center
+--- 57973562
+>>57972717
+>purposely sabotaged during trials and first issuance
+>Siggers and government doing everything to hide issues
+Yeah bro totally the same thing. Let me know when they switch the powder right before sending them to troops and when the DOD decides soldiers don’t need cleaning kits for the XM7
+--- 57973579
+>>57972817
+>it’s totally fake
+>our handguard isn’t an issue
+This exists for a reason 
+https://arisakadefense.com/mcx-zero-retention-clamp/
+--- 57973584
+>>57966983 (OP)
+>Sig
+>Ever
+They'll need to completely revamp themselves if I'm ever to give them respect. I owned an original MCX and it was a massive piece of shit, and I doubt a bloated MCX that costs 4x as much will be any better as far as quality goes. The round is a gigantic meme and the current near-peer conflict in Ukraine shows that you don't need battle rifles to kill people real well wearing level 3 or 4 equivalent armor. The gun was just the Army boomer general officers last grasp of attempting to adopt a battle rifle after the concept was rightfully dropped in the 60s to 80s by most of the planet outside of third world shitholes who couldn't afford to upgrade or didn't have large enough militaries to justify moving fully to intermediate rifles.
+
+More shots on target will always be better than the prospect of some one-shot-one-kill boomer marksman nonsense.
+--- 57973621
+>>57967162
+US military scammed again
+
+another victim of the MIC
+--- 57973670
+>>57967071
+They can't afford it so can't I or you or anybody.
+--- 57973731
+>>57972922
+>It is definitely a lighter cartridge than the 308
+The case weights are practically identical. Some autistic cartridge collectors got ahold of some fired 6.8mm brass and it averages out to about 155 grains each. That's only about 10 grains lighter than your average .308 brass. Which is the kind of shit marketers love, because it technically is lighter but by such a negligible amount you'd need a precision scale to tell the difference.
+--- 57973733
+>>57967162
+now try it with the barrel in the upper proper
+you lying faggots make me sick
+--- 57973944
+>>57967162
+>4200 dollarydoos
+--- 57974076
+>>57966983 (OP)
+If palmetto makes one for $450 maybe I'll consider selling my ar.
+--- 57974128
+>>57973210
+Because it's better to have an FDE base layer than a black base layer if you want to paint the gun
+--- 57974143
+>>57973733
+The barrels not the problem, retard. You don't own a gun, do you?
+--- 57974144
+>>57973562
+>Siggers and government doing everything to hide issues
+The issues being?
+--- 57974307
+>>57968346
+>I heard that rifle was performing poorly?
+Those are big manipulations done on purpose by German (Der Onet) owned media, mixing half-truths with omissions and outright lies:
+>ongoing international military rifle procurements
+>Der Onet smears potential Polish weapon exports
+>Heckler & Koch with SIG Sauer rubbing hands
+
+P.S. Anyway, by the way:
+>In 2022, a number of Grot C16 FB-A2 carbines were purchased by the US Special Operations Command (SOCOM), and now talks are underway with Arms of America.
+https://tech.wp.pl/karabinki-grot-i-nie-tylko-na-shot-show-2023-wzbudzily-duze-zainteresowanie,6857987256617888a
+--- 57974328
+>>57973733
+See>>57973579
+Why don’t you show us one that doesn’t flex? With your own MCX perhaps?
+--- 57974695
+>>57974328
+It's not a bug, it's a feature. The handguard needs to be flexible, so it doesn't break like glass on impact when accidentally dropped or something.
+--- 57974731
+>>57974695
+That's such insane cope I can't believe someone would say something so fucking stupid. How come KAC URX and RAS, LaRue, BCM rigid, DD, PRI rails all don't shatter or bend despite being rigid rails with the purpose of zero retention and durability? 
+
+How can you sleep saying such stupid fucking things with the confidence which you do?
+--- 57974830
+>>57973562
+Do you have *any* empirical, photographic, or first-hand testimonial evidence to support either of your claims? And before you backpedal and move goalposts and start posting webms of the handguard bending, let me remind you your second claim states
+>Siggers and government doing everything to hide issues
+and in no way references the alleged issues themselves.
+--- 57974843
+>>57974731
+I realize tone is hard to comprehend through text, but surely you're not daft enough to realize this was sarcasm and a joke, right?
+--- 57975019
+it was the safe choice so you can't go wrong I'm not mad at all it's just a big ar
+--- 57975032
+>>57974731
+xDDDDDDD
+--- 57975058
+>>57974843
+--- 57975124
+>>57974830
+>Do you have *any* empirical, photographic, or first-hand testimonial evidence to support either of your claims?
+Yes I absolutely do. It’s a matter of public record that the army changed powder type which changed port pressure which caused them to run inconsistently. All without consulting Stoner, Sullivan, or Armalite. It’s also a well known matter of of public record that M16s were not issued with cleaning kits. So much so there were congressional hearings in the 60s and the army made a fucking comic to tell troops how to clean there rifles. If you don’t believe me listen to Jim Sullivan. Who is arguably more qualified to talk about the M16 than Eugene Stoner was. 
+>https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/01/09/jim-sullivan-m16-vietnam/amp/
+
+There are also firsthand accounts from Stoner of when they were failing army trials and he saw them firsthand and saw things like the rear takedown pin was removed and held together with wire instead. And they complained it wasn’t reliable. It’s a captured takedown pin, it’s utter retardation or direct sabotage to remove those. 
+
+Are you so fucking braindead you don’t know this or disagree?
+--- 57975225
+its the USA making the same m14 mistake again. literally the takeaway from every modern war about standard issue rifles is that whoever shows up with the most bullets, wins. rifling doesnt even fit the doctrine where one fireteam is in active combat and laying down ammo while the other assaults
+--- 57976731
+>>57967781
+>Ukraine is a war with an ungodly amount of suppressing fire, so the reviews would be overwhelmingly negative no matter how good it is; because its just a bad fit for what they're doing.
+
+That must be why the Ukrainians near the front line have switch up to the FAL? lmao.
+--- 57976861
+>>57975225
+>up round production
+>tell American soldiers to carry as many 6.8x51 rounds as they would normally 5.56
+Wow, crazy
+--- 57976897
+>>57976731
+What videos are you with seeing guys taking trenches with FALs? It's ARs and AKs in every single video I've seen so far.
+--- 57976941
+I still think going 6.8 is a big mistake and we should've continued with the LSAT.
+
+a 6.8 DMR/LMG is still a nice idea tho.
+--- 57976996
+>>57974144
+In no particular order
+>weight
+>total ammo capacity
+>ammo weight
+>recoil
+>flexing handguard
+>shoddy Sig QC
+>recoil
+>a rifle designed for the last war (not really the rifle's fault though)
+
+Siggers claim the weight isn't that bad and it's only 9.34lbs, ignoring the mag, suppressor, and optic. Even when a M4 is tricked out it's still 2+lbs lighter, not accounting for ammo, which is 20% more weight with the XM7. Mag capacity and total combat load is down 33% while weighing 2.4lbs (40%) more. The battle rifle concept isn't good anymore. Volume of fire matters more than the power of individual rounds. We've seen this proven true in just the US perspective in the civil war, spanish-american war, WWI, WWII, and Korea. We saw it with the M14 in Vietnam. The majority of the world isn't Afghanistan. A rifle made to fight there lacks in most places. Rather than acknowledge the downsides they are dismissed entirely.
+
+Also the flexing MCX handguard which is the same handguard as the XM7. I'm sure there won't be any problems there though. 
+ All I have to say is lol. Lmao.
+--- 57977008
+>>57973733
+Arisaka sells a clamp specifically to fix this lol
+--- 57977019
+>>57966983 (OP)
+They're more than 4k each so that's never going to happen
+--- 57977021
+>>57976861
+>just carry twice as much weight in ammo
+>don't worry about it soldier
+>there are no downsides
+>knees will keep degrading until morale improves
+Please tell us more how you've never carried anything heavy long distances. 10 mags of 6.8 weighs 14lbs for a total of 200 rounds. 7 mags of 5.56 weigh 7lbs and that's 210. Twice the weight for less ammo. If you do 300 rounds vs 300 rounds it's 21lbs vs 10lbs. Have fun with that.
+--- 57977033
+>>57977008
+Yep I already linked it. And they Siggers have no reply to it. Wonder why
+--- 57977501
+>>57966983 (OP)
+im switching to airguns and electric ignition because nobody will making any primers in 15 years.
+--- 57977616
+>>57968487
+B8?
+This new 6.8 isn’t fucking 6.8 SPC, why even mention x39 to compare
+.277 SIG is 135/140gr at a SIGnificantly higher speed than your .308
+Better ballistic coefficient, more boolit, higher sectional density
+.277 fury is everything 6.5 sneedmoor wishes it was
+--- 57977665
+>>57966983 (OP)
+I will eventually own a piston gun that's not an AK, but it won't be that. Inflation would have to be such that 4k ish dollary-doos is 650 in today's money.
+--- 57978651
+>>57972452
+For sure it's the best around right commercially available, but also it looks like it has the aesthetics of early 2000's laser tag vests
+--- 57978737
+>>57976731
+>>57976897
+Yeah I can't say I've seen a fal in any infantry combat video either
+--- 57979136
+>>57978737
+UHMMM, NO ACTUALLY ZELENSKY HIMSELF ORDERED 60000 MORE GROT RIFLES FROM BASED POLAND.
+>t. grot shill that shits up every thread that isn't about his country's lukewarm rifle
+--- 57979597
+>>57976861
+You are fucking stupid
+--- 57979635
+>>57966983 (OP)
+YOU
+WILL
+NEVER
+BE
+A 
+REAL
+GUN
+
+PERIOD!!!
+--- 57979673
+>>57968375
+hit up this thread before I went to bed.
+I'm a tourist apparently. Lmao
+it is you who needs to go back
+--- 57979679
+>>57973532
+apparently you don't know what the kappa face means. Don't worry anon, you'll learn memes eventually, maybe after your shithole country loses to Ukraine.
+--- 57979745
+>>57979679
+Fuck off with your twitch gaylord shit
+t. Nta
+--- 57979782
+>>57966983 (OP)
+nah that'll be a different generation you're reading
+i'll be sipping monster and fucking with my AR-10s and AR-15s
+--- 57980153
+>>57972833
+Kill yourself faggot. In this house we don't tolerate XM8 slander.
+--- 57980330
+>>57974708
+>>57975032
+>>57975058
+first day on the job? this isn't discord you nigger

k/57967164.txt

@@ -129,3 +129,161 @@ fuck guess that answers >>57967537
 I get it now.
 --- 57968565
 One for her, one for me. She already took care of the knife.
+--- 57968683
+>>57967164 (OP)
+Nigger you have god awful taste.
+>>57967539
+based soppo as always
+>>57967645
+cope
+--- 57968696
+>>57968489
+why do you fuck that animal, it's disgusting!
+--- 57968949
+>>57967164 (OP)
+--- 57969606
+>>57967673
+Yeah it's a Marauder II
+>>57967649
+She's Pirotess from Record of Lodoss War
+--- 57970574
+>>57968296
+The lady looks familiar but I can't pinpoint from where.
+--- 57970637
+>>57967423
+>doesn't like neanderthals
+>instead wants to fuck monkey-asians
+
+Wew
+--- 57970656
+>>57968489
+carpet muncher
+--- 57970777
+>>57967164 (OP)
+--- 57971019
+>>57970574
+>lady
+--- 57971311
+>>57967164 (OP)
+--- 57971341
+>>57967404
+>tries to play the trad card when talking about taste in women
+--- 57971383
+>>57967793
+Basic but far superior to other ones in these abominable threads.
+--- 57971480
+>>57967164 (OP)
+Nigger
+--- 57972073
+>>57971473
+What knife is that?
+--- 57972133
+Still like em
+--- 57972159
+>>57967620
+it isn't, like 4/5 tang
+--- 57972653
+>>57972073
+It's a Krake Raken
+--- 57972752
+>>57967164 (OP)
+--- 57972854
+I fucking love women so much bros!
+--- 57972899
+>>57967164 (OP)
+That is impressively dogshit taste OP, genuinely.
+--- 57973408
+>>57972854
+Women have no business voting.
+--- 57974193
+K-pop dancer named Bomi
+
+Knife: Böker Swiss dagger
+Rifle: HK MR556 or MR223 
+
+
+>>57967645
+Who is this Junoesque lady?
+--- 57974500
+>>57974193
+Why does every modern model grab the bottom edge of their butt like that nowdays? I don't get it.
+--- 57974561
+>>57972752
+2 wolfs inside you
+--- 57974588
+>>57974500
+To make it look rounder or larger
+--- 57974632
+>>57972752
+>Rhodiepilled
+>Skylapilled
+Absolutely patrician taste.
+--- 57974692
+>>57967423
+Disgusting.
+Japanese and Koreans are the superior bugs.
+--- 57974701
+>>57970356
+Based
+--- 57974845
+>>57967164 (OP)
+--- 57974954
+>>57968489
+--- 57974966
+>>57967164 (OP)
+--- 57975067
+>>57967645
+>Hendricks
+hhhHHOLY BASED
+--- 57975585
+>>57970574
+Twitter artist's OC.
+--- 57975726
+>>57969168
+>Filthy rat
+>Not choosing demon mommy
+wow
+--- 57975747
+>>57975585
+Styxhexenhammer?
+--- 57975835
+>when someone calls you a mobian
+--- 57976288
+>>57975726
+Demon girls will just pump and dump you. Trashy opossums are for life.
+--- 57976961
+it was between stocking anarchy, ryuko matoi, and asuka langley soryu
+--- 57977875
+>>57967645
+Christina Hendricks is so fucking overrated.
+--- 57977890
+>>57976961
+Good choices for all. Though for Eva, I have to go Misato.
+--- 57979590
+>>57967164 (OP)
+
+RATE
+--- 57979612
+>>57979590
+Fed/Waco
+--- 57980180
+If you ask about sidearm, I guess it would be the MK23 SOCOM, and also a Glock 30 as a hidden bonus.
+>>57974845
+>waifus a preggo woman who is about to give birth to a girl, hence anon wins another younger waifu instantly after that to raise to behave accordingly
+
+Kinda Based ngl
+--- 57980253
+>>57967793
+>>57968296
+>>57968949
+>>57970656
+>>57970777
+>>57972752
+>>57976961
+I am inviting you gentlemen to join my team
+--- 57980337
+>>57969168
+What is that rifle? It looks like the one from barotrauma
+--- 57980423
+>>57980337
+lurk more

k/57968030.txt

@@ -38,3 +38,686 @@ The police should adopt this first. Let’s see their enthusiasm for it first.
 Will never use any gun that's software controlled.
 --- 57968589
 Smart guns are interesting
+--- 57969132
+>>57968030 (OP)
+WAR
+HAS CHANGED
+ID TAGGED SOLDIERS
+CARRYING ID TAGGED WEAPONS
+--- 57969263
+>>57968030 (OP)
+Exclusively bought by flabby soft communist assholes that shouldn't own guns. 
+
+These shill threads are pathetic.
+--- 57969822
+>>57968578
+if it works, then they pretty certainly will. cops live in terror of being killed by their own gun.
+--- 57970028
+>>57969263
+Exclusively hated by incels
+--- 57970032
+>monthly sub to access your firearm.
+--- 57970045
+>>57968096
+Imagine you're clearing a house and someone disarms you and tries to shoot you.
+--- 57970092
+The only smart pistol I want is one of those auto aim handguns from titanfall or cyberpunk 2077. Wonder how long until AI can give us auto aim guns.
+--- 57970144
+>>57970092
+They already exist if you count the smart scopes of the NGSW competition.
+--- 57970158
+>>57968030 (OP)
+No tesla currently made will ever live long enough to wear collector plates due to battery fatigue. The same thing will happen to this gun, imagine coming across a biofire 30 years from now.
+>for sale biofire pistol 9x19
+>previous owner lost base the station
+>battery is dead, and wouldn't even charge if I did have the base station
+>Tried contacting the Biofire, but they went out of buisness 10 years ago
+>with a bit of work you might be able to convert it to work like a normal gun.
+>$2,499 OBO I KNOW WHAT I GOT!
+--- 57970165
+>>57968030 (OP)
+I’ll let you beta test
+--- 57970214
+>>57970158
+Not being able to fire easily is kind of the point of the gun.
+--- 57970260
+>>57969263
+shit like this is gonna turn it into the next c-more sight meme. You have created your own demise.
+--- 57970367
+>>57970045
+Thats not impossible I guess but hopefully Im never that close to a home invader.
+Once the technology is mature enough that its 99.9% reliable and compact, I see no reason not to use one.
+--- 57970380
+>>57970260
+C-more didn't have Ian to shill for them. The gun will sell gainbusters and there's nothing you can do about it.
+--- 57970401
+>>57968030 (OP)
+I'm gonna get one and cum on it and see if it works while covered in water-based lubricant and cum. If it doesn't then I'm gonna sue for selling a faulty product that won't work under normal (in my home) conditions. I have to coom every single night. Normally my wife and I have sex but if not that then a bj or hj from her but if she can't do that then I gotta jack one out. And I have to be able to trust my bedside HDPWIL (home defense pistol with integrated light) to perform with cum and lube.
+--- 57970442
+>>57970144
+That's not what he's talking about. Imagine a gyrojet but the projectiles have a guidance system.
+--- 57970475
+>>57970442
+Well, we already have that too, if you count guided ATGMs.
+--- 57970484
+>>57970158
+>battery fatigue
+Truly the silent killer. I need to go buy a new TV remote every few months because the batteries are non-rechargeable and they keep dying.
+>>57970475
+Yeah, I want a semi-auto guided ATGM launcher that fits under a jacket.
+--- 57970499
+I can't tell if this inane faggotry is due to simple trolling or unironic shilling. Ready for it to fuck off either way.
+--- 57970953
+am i ready to larp as judge dredd? hell YES i ordered one
+--- 57970987
+Bro it jammed in Ian's video...
+smart guns are gonna happen and /k/ being little crybaby bitches aint changing it but I'm not beta testing their new gun
+--- 57970993
+>>57970953
+Post order or you're a shill.
+--- 57971077
+>>57970987
+So did the m16a1, and we all know how that turned out.
+
+Like he said, this gun is still in the prototyping phase, it isn't finished and ready yet
+--- 57971565
+>>57968030 (OP)
+Yeah, in FDE. What color did you get?
+--- 57971591
+>>57970380
+>The gun will sell gainbusters and there's nothing you can do about it.
+Just means they'll be that much less valuable when the company goes bankrupt.
+--- 57971597
+>>57970158
+>anti smartgun schizo STILL trying to push the batteries-bad angle
+--- 57971825
+Transgender woman here
+Ordered immediately after watching Ian's video
+--- 57971864
+>>57971825
+There's a shop in my town that will sell you a gun for basically free if you're trans. We arm minorites around these here parts, especially sexual minorities.
+--- 57971943
+>>57971597
+>everyone who doesn't like what I like is a single individual
+who's supposed to be the schizo again?
+--- 57971957
+>>57970499
+People's extreme overreactions to being confronted with it, bordering on
+>Imma buy it! This is the greatest invention ever! The future! Oh my god dude I'm gonna break it apart bro, I'm a netrunner now!!!!!!
+To
+>This is a shill campaign from the US state department to normalize the use of smart guns. Soon they'll be tracking every single one of us and remotely shutting our triggers down, you have been warned!!!1!!
+Some of the funniest shit I've seen in a while. The best part of all this so far hasn't been the gun but these autistic reactions to something that's just... 'okay'. The concept is uh.. a bit retarded? I personally think if you're in the position of not being able to own a gun without having to put a fucking identity lock on it, you might want to reconsider your life for the moment, if possible. Because of shit like:
+>It jamming every 4th shot
+>Needing a battery to work
+>Needing software stations to plug and charge
+>Anti-Grab feature... why
+>Needing to keep your fingers on the scanners
+>How in the fuck do you field strip this fucking thing
+>What if the software hard glitches
+>What about WML?
+I'm not so trustful of it inherently being better in any fucking way, or even functioning as a replacement to anything with these smart technologies, really like a fucking baby's first gun or something. It will nonetheless be fascinating to see what people discover when they get theirs. Either way though this doesn't deserve a general, no matter how entertaining watching sums of /k/ deal with it has been. Feels like more a /g/ thing.
+--- 57971998
+>>57968030 (OP)
+I unironically see this as a good thing. They may win over people where where on the fence before hand due to concerns with kids or similar issues and they will probably graduate from this trainer pistol to more guns and eventually become proper/k/ommandos. Hell Bloomberg even got all scared that this was going to be a "gateway gun" and tank their number after people discover that funs are fun
+--- 57972033
+>>57971957
+>i dont have strong opinions one way or the other but uhhhh THIS SHOULDN'T BE A GENERAL STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS GUN
+--- 57972041
+>>57971998
+Oh yeah I remember that article. Those dumbasses have been clambering for this shit for decades and now that it's here in not a completely fucked form they don't know what to do.
+--- 57972081
+>>57968030 (OP)
+You cant just make a general out of thin air you nignog
+--- 57972089
+>>57972081
+--- 57972199
+since the trigger uses a solenoid, i wonder how light you can make the trigger pull
+--- 57972217
+>>57970987
+>smart guns are gonna happen and /k/ being little crybaby bitches aint changing it but I'm not beta testing their new gun
+O rly? And how will they "happen" when gun owners overwhelmingly have no desire to buy them, and no one will buy these to equip their guys?
+--- 57972236
+>>57968030 (OP)
+GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS
+--- 57972307
+>>57968030 (OP)
+What's the claim to fame here?
+--- 57972440
+>>57972307
+basically what >>57972236 said
+--- 57972983
+>>57971825
+>Select gender: Female
+>put finger on sensor
+>error: Male finger length
+>look into camera
+>error: Male bone structure
+Maybe these aren't such a great idea if they stand in the way of the 41%
+--- 57973066
+>>57968030 (OP)
+Yeah, I ordered 3 so I can arm all my trans friends. I'm trans btw.
+--- 57973102
+>>57968030 (OP)
+CHUDs will hate it, but me and my queer friends love it already. Now we can be strong just like our favorite Marvel heroes, but our children can be safe!
+--- 57973119
+>>57970045
+>clearing a house
+>clearing a house with a pistol
+>clearing a house with a pistol and getting disarmed by your garden variety neighborhood nog
+--- 57973173
+>>57972199
+I ordered mine to hack. I bet it could be full auto pretty easily
+--- 57973184
+>>57972983
+Burt, you're better than this.
+--- 57973190
+>>57973184
+you have to go back
+--- 57973194
+>>57968030 (OP)
+It's $1500, I can buy literally any gun I want and a biometric handgun safe and still have money left over.
+Did they not consult a marketing team to do research on this? Relying on Ian's goodwill with the community?
+--- 57973201
+>>57973194
+biometric safes are mostly trash and they don't work instantly. this thing recognizes the user pretty much instantaneously.
+--- 57973217
+>>57973184
+Anonymous, you're not a woman.
+--- 57973225
+>>57973201
+If it's so reliable, why not take the sensor technology used in this pistol and apply it to a safe? Then there's no need for any spooky tech inside your firearm.
+--- 57973239
+>>57973225
+>spooky tech
+
+its only spooky to schizos.
+--- 57973247
+>>57973225
+because then we wouldn't be ((revolutionizing)) the firearm industry to make it (((safer)))
+--- 57973268
+>>57973239
+What business does non-mechanical technology have in a firearm?
+--- 57973286
+>>57973268
+--- 57973291
+>>57973268
+>safety
+>infinitely adjustable trigger
+>fire modes that are not dependent on goofy clockwork mechanisms 
+>powered optic rails
+>better interfacising between gun and accessories
+--- 57973300
+>>57973286
+In, not on. You can remove a red dot sight.
+--- 57973306
+>>57973225
+you don't normally carry around a safe with you that the gun magically teleports into if someone else touches it
+--- 57973315
+>>57973286
+Burt, which is better for a first-time pistol optics owner, the 507C or RMR?
+Only ever shot irons, and I conceal carry the pistol daily.
+--- 57973327
+>>57973300
+I bet your car is fuel injected lol
+--- 57973347
+>>57973327
+I bet you don't own guns
+--- 57973354
+>>57973225
+Then you'd have to do something other than you would with a normal gun
+The idea is that you can grab it and shoot just like you would with a normal gun, with a safe you now have to defeat some biometric lock or something before you can get to your pistol.
+--- 57973362
+>>57973306
+>carry
+According to biofire and Ian's promo video, it is intended for use as a home-defense/bedside gun.
+--- 57973366
+>>57973347
+cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug
+--- 57973375
+>>57973354
+This is the only reasonable answer I have heard so far
+--- 57973390
+>>57973366
+Fine, you got me. What does fuel injection have to do with what I was talking about, which is electronics in firearms?
+--- 57973399
+>>57973362
+Yeah but still if you are clearing the house or something the gun cant be used against you like a normal gun could
+I admit its a stretch for this iteration but there are recorded instances of cops engaging safeties on their guns while in a struggle and attributing it to them surviving the encounter. 
+I think smart guns will have a lot better use case once the tech gets good enough for it to be carried as a police sidearm.
+--- 57973403
+>>57973315
+They both have virtues, you're gonna have to choose
+
+Do you choose 
+
+-Highest durability
+-Flexing on "poor" people with common sense
+-Not directly funding WWIII with chiner
+
+or
+
+-Lower price
+-Reticle options
+-Longer battery life
+-Solar power
+-Still very high durability
+-Clearer lens
+-Less tinted lens
+-Less distorted lens
+-Getting bullied by racists
+-Externally accessible battery
+--- 57973409
+bet your ass i did. i'm actually looking for a legit way to invest in this but they probably won't sell shares until at least Series C funding is over
+tossing $150 at them for now is a no brainer
+--- 57973468
+>>57973390
+You trust an amalgamation of electronics and machinery to carry you down the highway at 70mph, but don't think electronics have any place in a firearm due to some perceived reliability issue.
+We can argue whether or not this is a good gun for its intended use or anything else, or if there is some threat to the future of normal guns, but to completely dismiss all 'smart guns' because "non-mechanical technology doesn't have a place in a firearm" is silly.
+--- 57973469
+>>57973201
+At least if a biometric safe doesn't work the key will, or you can throw it really hard at the floor and it'll break open. What about this piece of shit? 
+I'm sure Jamal can make it work in 15 minutes with a screwdriver.
+--- 57973491
+>>57973469
+>I'm sure Jamal can make it work in 15 minutes with a screwdriver.
+
+how? do you even know how the gun works?
+--- 57973506
+>>57973399
+>Yeah but still if you are clearing the house or something the gun cant be used against you like a normal gun could
+True, but this seems like a stretch in general, not just with this early iteration. Is this a known problem with clearing a house with a pistol? Honestly I am impressed with the biofire, they seem to have gotten a lot of mileage out of the current tech, but I just don't like the idea of electronics built into firearms.
+--- 57973540
+>>57973468
+>due to some perceived reliability issue
+You misunderstand me - I personally believe the reliability issue is overstated. Like you mentioned, I am principally concerned with its implications for future guns, more specifically laws concerning them.
+--- 57973564
+>>57973540
+>more specifically laws concerning them.
+
+the government hasn't added a secret 'stop' button for cars and they're more tightly regulated than guns.
+--- 57973602
+>>57968030 (OP)
+The point of this gun's existence is to mandate that everyone surrender their existing firearms and use only remote-controlled cuck toys the government can shut off remotely. Ironically, the only people who SHOULD have these remote-controlled dildos are cops who have to wrassle with nogs.
+--- 57973604
+>>57973506
+I assume its much less of an issue with a home defense gun or a civilian defensive gun in general than a police service weapon, but its still an advantage of a smart gun over a bio safe. The gun literally cannot be used in any way you in particular don't want it to be. This particular smart gun is still kinda shitty as a pistol but its a huge step in the right direction for the development of smart gun tech.
+--- 57973635
+>>57973540
+Alright, sorry about that. I think its kinda paranoid and that smart gun legislation would never pass at any real scale in the US, but I can see the concern.
+--- 57973656
+>>57973604
+The only "smart gun tech" that should exist is an ammo readout and maybe some sort of HUD reticle to help you aim and account for bullet drop. We don't need these remote turn off guns.
+--- 57973663
+please buy an ad instead of shilling on the board
+thanks
+--- 57973668
+>>57973602
+How do you think the government is going to get all the 434,000,000 guns already in circulation? Also, do you really think that law would ever get passed? NJ had one law on the books that would ban the sale of new production guns once smart guns became viable and they literally got bullied into getting rid of the law.
+--- 57973682
+>>57973656
+>remote turn off
+thats not a feature of the biofire, it is not connected to wifi or GPS or 5g or anything else.
+--- 57973689
+>>57973602
+>>57973656
+>creating headcanon just to make yourself mad
+--- 57973698
+>>57973291
+>fire modes that are not dependent on goofy clockwork mechanisms
+No, just dependent on abstract firmware that's signed and sealed For Your Own Good. Thinking about replacing that firmware? Careful, the ATF is hoping to make conviction headway in this Brave New World. Dont forget to update your gun regularly to patch security holes!
+--- 57973699
+>>57973635
+Sorry for accusing you of being nogunz, friend. As for "that would never pass at any real scale," maybe it's a little paranoid to assume it will. But I think it's a bit naive to assume it won't when we see attempt after attempt. They only have to get lucky once.
+
+>>57973564
+Same with you, anon. Do not assume they wouldn't try. Also, did congress not recently pass a bill requiring all kinds of bullshit technology to be included in cars manufactured after 2026 or so?
+--- 57973707
+>>57973564
+Politicians don't care about cars with the same intensity.
+--- 57973708
+>>57973699
+same anon here. I am pretty sure it was specifically built-in breathalyzers for the new cars
+--- 57973711
+>>57970045
+You must really fucking suck at clearing your own house that you have lived in and should know better then the nog breaking it
+--- 57973715
+>>57973699
+>Do not assume they wouldn't try.
+
+you are stifling technological progress based on HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS.
+--- 57973720
+>>57973682
+What about its dock?
+--- 57973725
+>>57973715
+Technological progress is not unquestionably good. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
+--- 57973736
+>get kinda interesting in giving it a shot
+>go build one out on the website
+>go through the illusions of modularity 
+>click “go to payment”
+>”please make an account”
+>no longer interested 
+
+I understand i am a bit weird with that but i something doesn’t feel right giving demographic metadata to a company like this. Am i being a schizo?
+--- 57973742
+>>57973725
+this is an opinion you have adopted specifically for this thread and will discard immediately after leaving.
+--- 57973748
+>>57973715
+>progress
+It's a loaded term. We can "progress" ourselves right into technologically-assisted slavery.
+--- 57973757
+>>57973715
+Not that anon, softwarefag here. If you fully trust binaries with your life that you yourself haven't vetted, or that aren't 100% open source, you're retarded. That goes for TCUs in a car to firmware on your TV.
+
+When your pre 2010 car's electrical systems fail or are compromised, your drive train and steering still functions reasonably well enough for you to pull over safely. Not necessarilt true for newer cars, and probably not true for smart guns.
+--- 57973758
+>>57973736
+>Am i being a schizo?
+
+you were going to have to give them your info anyway to buy the gun, so yeah thats a bit schizo.
+--- 57973763
+>>57973720
+Looks all purely local to me
+--- 57973764
+>>57973668
+>How do you think the government is going to get all the 434,000,000 guns already in circulation? 
+The same way they're already trying to in Illinois, California, etc. 
+>NJ had one law on the books that would ban the sale of new production guns once smart guns became viable and they literally got bullied into getting rid of the law.
+The point is, they tried. And the company in question secretly patented a kill switch into them after lying about not doing that very thing. They got caught, and reaped the whirlwind of justifiable backlash.
+
+>>57973689
+Fuck off broccoli-headed zoomer. Some of us have more than a 15-second memory.
+--- 57973769
+>>57973742
+No, I promise you it is a genuine opinion. I feel this way about a lot of things, and many others share the feeling.
+--- 57973775
+>>57968030 (OP)
+e-trigger where?
+
+tried some paintballing and love how crisp and low travel they are
+--- 57973777
+>>57973764
+>the company in question secretly patented a kill switch into them after lying about not doing that very thing.
+
+can i see it?
+--- 57973778
+>>57973758
+Fair enough i think i just find it weird they need my email and another password when it has to go through an FFL anyway
+--- 57973784
+>>57973764
+>same way they're already trying to in Illinois, California, etc.
+Unsuccessfully?
+>whirlwind of justifiable backlash.
+exactly
+--- 57973785
+>>57973775
+ian mention it uses a solenoid so yeah it might actually be capable of firing hilariously fast.
+--- 57973788
+>>57973763
+That's better than nothing. But look out for, "hey anon, come into our store for a free firmware upgrade!"
+
+And also, while I initially believe them that no wireless transceiver exists, unless you're going to sweep it with an radio analyzer or deeply inspect its PCB, you'd have no way to know.
+--- 57973801
+>>57973742
+Are you happy with all technological progress that has ever been made?
+--- 57973802
+>>57973788
+>yeah while you may have proven that its not a thing, im just going to create new headcanon that makes me right.
+--- 57973805
+>>57973788
+As soon as they are commercially available people are going to be taking them apart and trying to hack them, if there is any transceiver they won't be able to hide it.
+--- 57973839
+>>57973802
+T. Zoomzoom who implicitly trusts technology.
+>>57973805
+Agreed on the teardowns. But most people aren't going to concern themselves with the results.
+--- 57973848
+>>57973764
+>secret
+>patent
+What do you mean by this?
+>>57973775
+I ordered two: one to keep stock, and one to tinker with the trigger. I also ordered a new logic analyzer, because why not
+--- 57973858
+>>57973839
+>T. Zoomzoom who implicitly trusts technology.
+
+t. fake luddite who absolutely loves fantasizing about new ways the government could oppress him
+--- 57973875
+>>57973788
+Oh yeah, I also plan on seeing if it transmits or receives anything via radio. That's such an easy thing to check for that I doubt it would.
+--- 57973899
+>>57973858
+I've built corporare software infra that's used by 10+ million people a day, likely including you. Technology is an immensely young discipline and has no physical analogue preventing its obfuscated designed misuse (unlike mechanics). People are trying to fuck you over with tech every day, dude. You don't see it because you aren't in the trenches and are relying on the goodwill of private and public sectors. That goodwill doesn't extend to every portion of your life and hobbies. And state actors have no qualms about wearing black or gray hats.
+
+In other words, grow up.
+--- 57973928
+>>57973899
+>I've built corporare software infra that's used by 10+ million people a day
+Which one? If it's used by that many people then the dev team will be big enough to not dox you immediately.
+--- 57973956
+>>57973928
+>giant shopping emporium and computer rentals R us
+Won't be getting more specific, don't work there anymore. Point stands.
+--- 57973970
+>>57973928
+Not that anon but you're making it worse for yourself. What's more likely, this guy made up this elaborate background and stumbled into an articulate description of the problem, or that you will enthusiastically support any new technological advance because it's "progress" and because you are incapable of original thought? It's really seeming like the latter. Grow up
+--- 57973971
+>>57968585
+>>57968589
+There are some pretty good ones already. Airguns, but still guns.
+--- 57974054
+>>57968030 (OP)
+Took one look at it and decided I would rather broomfire 
+Century old slightly rusted c96 is more reliable and cheaper
+--- 57974161
+>>57974054
+True. Mauser would never do us dirty like that
+--- 57974488
+>>57973757
+--- 57974502
+the biofire smart gun is so massive you can't even fit it in your mouth to kill yourself with
+--- 57974655
+>>57974488
+>know a lot about software
+>know nothing about rockets or cars
+
+doubt
+--- 57974736
+>>57974054
+guns are simple machines. they haven't fundamentally changed in more than 200 years
+adding simple modern features to it isn't going to hurt anything and will make it better
+--- 57974770
+>>57974736
+>Drop your phone-gun on face recognition chip, it’s useless 
+>malware or EM gets your phone-gun, it’s useless 
+Meanwhile the red orchestra guns will keep working even as their frame is rusting away
+Literally a swole vs cheems meme
+--- 57974800
+>>57974770
+Oh and they’re cheaper too, and appreciate in price
+Meanwhile a worn and glitchy phone gun probably gets a discount like old phones
+--- 57974804
+>>57974770
+>Drop your phone-gun on face recognition chip, it’s useless
+you mean a small, durable camera thats normally used for phones tha that get dropped all the time?
+>malware or EM gets your phone-gun, it’s useless 
+neither of those things happen.
+--- 57974812
+>>57974054
+Cooler looking too, and it's holster doubles as a stock. And it's sights are adjustable out to 1km. Other gun manufacturers, are you even trying?
+--- 57974824
+>>57974804
+Do you know how many phone repair shops get cam fixes
+--- 57974829
+>>57974812
+It gave me garand thumb when I tried to load without a clip
+--- 57974854
+>>57974824
+yes because people are on their phones constantly and dropping them constantly, or sitting on them. also phones are generally a lot more slippery than a handgun.
+--- 57974919
+>>57974854
+>>57974804
+I mean I do give, if you have a kid it might have some value but not being able to count on it fully would force you to keep a backup gun anyways 
+
+One of the smart gun boxes with a manual override is better and cheaper
+--- 57974921
+>>57974502
+lmao you have a tiny mouth
+--- 57974922
+KOJIMA WAS RIGHT AGAIN
+GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS
+FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
+--- 57975018
+>>57968030 (OP)
+i am using this as a gateway drug to get cute girls into guns
+they see a big blocky sci-fi looking pistol with all these safety features today
+they see a Colt tomorrow
+--- 57975040
+>>57968578
+I agree with this. The police are basically elite operators and can show the rest of us how these things work.
+--- 57975108
+>>57974736
+This isn't high school intro to engineering class, where you add modern technology to something that doesn't need it and still get an A on the project. In real life, technology doesn't automatically make things better. Technological progress is not ontologically good. 
+
+It's easy to be tempted by (admittedly impressive) modern features, but it needs to be weighed with the potential consequences. For example, would it really be worth it to have these nice smart security features if that technology were ultimately used to make draconian gun/self defense laws in the long run? These are things we should consider before happily playing along with "progress"
+--- 57975289
+>buying a google gun
+hahahaha
+--- 57975317
+>>57975289
+That's not even all the investors, some of them want to fly under the radar
+--- 57975318
+>>57974922
+La Creatividad is always right. All you had to do was listen, he tried to warn you.
+--- 57975397
+>>57973491
+Nobody does. I imagine the electrical component is either a magnet or a mechanical switch that disengages the action. Jamal and his screwdriver can disable the latter while some cheap rare earth magnet can disable a magnetic lock.
+--- 57975576
+>>57975397
+that isn't the case you fucking retard, it doesn't have a mechanical linkage between the trigger and the sear
+--- 57975598
+>>57975576
+So then it’s an electromagnet? That’s going to be even easier to disable.
+--- 57975644
+>>57975576
+When my antique guns have trouble I take them apart. I can even mod some to run better 
+Good luck doing that to a smartphone
+--- 57975783
+>>57975576
+>it doesn't have a mechanical linkage between the trigger and the sear
+Fuck the batteries then, that's a killer liability right there.
+Of course it's not true, there's going to be an interrupter dingus of some sort because doing it any other way is massively retarded.
+--- 57975808
+>>57975317
+We can take Blackrock and Vanguard as read.
+>here goyim buy a gun from these fine people who hate you and everything you like
+--- 57975869
+>>57968179
+For once I decided to lurk a thread… and it was this one
+--- 57975925
+>>57968030 (OP)
+>biometric guns pop up on the scene
+>politicians want them
+>gun community poo-poos them because of the gun control implications
+>biometric guns die
+>politicians forget about them
+>fast forward
+>youtube e-celeb, self proclaimed gun jesus, and dirty francophile makes video promoting biometric guns
+>gun community creams their panties and want biometric guns
+>politicians are reminded of biometric guns
+>politicians pass laws to ban all guns that aren't biometric
+
+Gee thanks, way to gx24adxo gun community
+--- 57976358
+>>57968578
+They will do the minute it is viable. cop shops have been asking for this for years and are even doing the middle steps to get to smart guns
+https://www.abc4.com/news/northern-utah/ogden-police-department-adopts-smart-gun-technology-to-track-gun-use/
+My bet is that they will be the first to get smart rifles, then pistols, same as with bodycams
+--- 57976384
+>>57975644
+>he can't take a phone apart
+bro i can do a new battery, camera, screen in like 25 minutes on my Samsung and only a bit longer for my GFs iphone/ipad
+--- 57976426
+>>57975925
+>politicians pass laws to ban all guns that aren't biometric
+One state had that exact law set in place and they immediately removed said law when they heard this gun was going to be sold
+
+They literally did the opposite. Blown the fuck out kiddo. The future is now
+--- 57976435
+>you will own ze remotely deactivated gun
+--- 57976440
+>>57968030 (OP)
+shitty slide thread to distract from what's happening in ukraine
+--- 57976458
+>>57976440
+ukraine needs smart guns
+--- 57976464
+>>57976384
+Then blow your money on a phone gun
+Less competition for worthwhile guns on broker
+Maybe I’ll buy a used phone gun for like 500 when it happens
+--- 57976645
+>>57976435
+>muh remote
+>muh EMPs
+>muh hackermans
+You can just say you didn't look into how the gun works
+--- 57976665
+>>57968030 (OP)
+Yeah, in white.
+--- 57976697
+>>57976645
+Why would I? It's an obvious gimmick
+--- 57977305
+>>57976645
+It’s as expensive as desirable collectibles 
+Just not worth the trouble
+
+How do you know they won’t mandate gps chips to track you eventually btw 
+
+I feel safer with antiques
+--- 57977418
+When I saw the FW video last week I envisioned an even shittier future where constitutional carry is legalized in the lower 48 but feds can remotely disable everyone's guns over wifi when the next summer of love hits.
+--- 57977547
+>>57968032
+>imagine
+--- 57977574
+>>57977418
+Laughs in fudd
+--- 57977652
+>>57968116
+>or you're shit at keeping guns away from kids and teens
+Your kids will always know how to get the safe open. It has the coolest toys in the house and they desperately want to impress their friends.
+--- 57977706
+>>57973225
+>Someone breaks safe to get gun, or watches a lockpickinglawyer video and unlocks the safe by sliding a magnet on its side or some shit
+Result: Gun
+>Someone breaks locked gun
+Result: No gun; gun is broken
+--- 57977769
+>>57977418
+thats crazy that you, someone turned into a psudo-schizo thanks to twitter screencaps, would immediately think of a dystopia situation specifically oppressing you.
+--- 57977933
+>>57977418
+you stupid jogger, do you know how hard it was to get *seatbelts* put in new cars? any kind of federal action against smartguns would make that look like slapping your old lady's ass for a good time
+never happen, not in a million years
+--- 57978049
+>>57977933
+And yet all new cars have seatbelts and several states already had laws stating that once these "safety" features become common all pistols eligible for sale in the state would be required to have them. Are you retarded? Or just stupid enough that the concept of forward thinking is alien and confusing
+--- 57978384
+Total Techbro Death
+--- 57978430
+>>57973468
+Yeah well there's an entire Federal department dedicated to auditing, testing, and verifying those engines. Whereas the Fed here will not investigate if your gun fails to fire and the rapist in your house enjoys your delectable boy hole without paying the troll toll.
+--- 57978498
+>>57975289
+>Palantir
+Literally the NSA's top data bitches, do not buy this fucking thing.
+--- 57980290
+I hate it
+--- 57980364
+>>57968030 (OP)
+fuck ya muddah

k/57968258.txt

@@ -36,3 +36,194 @@ Do we have any reason to believe the Ukrainian situation improved?
 --- 57968669
 >>57968655
 It's more that the Russian situation got worse. August 2022 was when HIMARS showed up and started blowing up their artillery ammunition depots
+--- 57968684
+Russia has a lot more shells to spare, everyone knew this. But they're clearly nowhere near as efficient or accurate with it or they'd be doing a lot better
+--- 57968702
+>>57968258 (OP)
+why do the glavset posters frogpost so much? What's he deal with that? I don't even hate the frog, real pepeposting is comfy (not this forced glavset frogposting shit) I just want to know why there are always two glavset spam threads with OP frogposts in the catalog? Do they put a tracking pixel in them and use them to monitor productivity or something?
+--- 57968708
+>>57968258 (OP)
+Isn't this a bad look for russia
+>we're fiering a billion shells a day xaxaxa
+>ukranians hold them back with a fraction of that
+--- 57968723
+>>57968702
+The handlers think it helps them blend in better and the actual shitposting pajeets can't or don't want to report that it only makrs them more obvious
+--- 57968761
+>>57968702
+I will pay any money to see Ukraine rounding up lakhta after the war in particular and displaying them in cages on their city squares.
+--- 57968782
+>>57968289
+>grad
+>surgical
+What?
+--- 57968787
+>>57968289
+They are? It's what they're made for. Saturating a small area with missiles so the shitty CEP doesn't actually matter too much.
+--- 57968798
+>>57968289
+>radio free Europe
+--- 57968862
+>>57968258 (OP)
+>russia fires 10 to 20 times more but dont hit shit
+>that means they inflicted more casualties
+cant find the pic comparing the craters in the fields next to russian and ukrainian position right now
+--- 57968891
+>>57968258 (OP)
+>[Russia fires] around 40,000 to 60,000 rounds of artillery ammunition per day.
+>and it achives almost nothing in gains
+
+>Currently, Ukrainian forces are firing 2,000 to 4,000 artillery shells a day
+>and they can hold the front line with just 2000-4000
+--- 57968899
+>>57968702
+>Tracking pixels
+Anon, those are what you think they are.
+Unless gookmoot has collaborated with the Rooshans you're not being tracked via tracking pixels.
+What you mean is Steganography tracking where they can hide data in images and track how an image spreads.
+--- 57968909
+>>57968258 (OP)
+>August 
+Lel
+--- 57969145
+Stupid frogposter.
+--- 57969180
+>40,000 to 60,000
+Its not june anymore, piggy.
+--- 57969185
+>>57968862
+--- 57969381
+>>57968258 (OP)
+>40k-60k arty shells a day
+that number was up-to-date only during sievierodonetsk, anon
+--- 57970134
+>>57969185
+How do we know this image is real and the labels are correct?
+--- 57970167
+How many artillery shells does it take to kill a person? You can kill at least 10 people with one shell, so that means 600,000 dead hoholbanditokrainians per day. That means the real fatality numbers are closer to 250,000,000 with at least 3x as many wounded, so 750,000,000. 
+HATO hordes won't last much longer. 
+Z
+--- 57970172
+>>57968258 (OP)
+>Uses this argument almost one year later
+Wow you should really demine a Bosnian field with your feet
+--- 57970200
+>>57970134
+Show me proofs. (here)
+Ah, but how can we ever truly PROVE anything?
+--- 57970263
+Russians may have fired that much during early war offensives, but claiming that's their average daily usage is schizoid Gonzalo-tier brain rot. That would imply they have at least fired over 16 million shells over the course of a year with a daily expenditure on par with the Red Army in WW2, which was a fought on a scale an order of magnitude higher than this current slav slapfight.
+--- 57970509
+>>57968289
+Wow, no wonder retarded shills here don't know shit.
+--- 57970914
+>>57970263
+>claiming that's their average daily usage is schizoid Gonzalo-tier brain rot
+I suppose you know better than the head of the Bundeswehr.
+--- 57970937
+>>57970914
+>Bundeswehr
+I probably do lol
+--- 57971063
+>>57968258 (OP)
+Indeed, as a European I am highly suspicious the post trump trend of fake news, and of these alleged low Ukrainian fatalities. 
+
+Ukraine is compensating for military inferiority with massed number, logically, the number should be higher. Furthermore the new storm Z companies have been very effective, I expect casualties will skyrocket this summer.
+--- 57971608
+>>57970914
+Just like that one EU official stated that over 100k Uke officers were KIA. Nobody has better intel about how the war is being fought outside of osint shit on social media
+--- 57972099
+>>57968258 (OP)
+>spamming about ukrainian casualties
+
+This thread is a malicious state backed influence campaign targeting US elections and the morale of our cherished allies. OP is committing a serious crime here.
+--- 57972137
+>>57968684
+The new shells and barrels are much better than the shitty stockpiled gear they began with apparently.
+--- 57972193
+>>57968258 (OP)
+>August 31
+lol
+>Most of the Russian navy has not yet been deployed in the war on Ukraine
+lol
+>Russia has threatened to station nuclear and hypersonic weapons in Kaliningrad should Finland and Sweden join NATO
+lol
+>This ammunition is partly old and very inaccurate 
+lol
+>Zorn said he nevertheless did not anticipate any far reaching offensives deep into Ukrainian territory
+LOL
+--- 57972218
+>>57968258 (OP)
+>[Russia fires] around 40,000 to 60,000 rounds of artillery ammunition per day.
+That was never true and the peak is far behind them. By this point 60k/day would put their usage far outside of even a high estimate of what they could actually supply at 25m shells
+--- 57972220
+>>57969185
+Honestly those are very good groupings it's just intel that fucked up. high caliber on the right is quite amazinf coming from soviet hardwere
+--- 57972234
+>>57968258 (OP)
+Man the Russian cope is so fantastic. 
+>Literally cannot move the front line for 8 months in spite of a constant daily offensive
+>m-maybe it’s secretly worse for the Ukrainians
+--- 57972575
+>>57968289
+lol
+--- 57974599
+OP raises some interesting points.
+--- 57975293
+>>57968782
+MLRS have two uses.
+
+1. when counterbattery-ing artillery the MLRS's advantage is that you can just point it at an area and fuck up everything in that area without having to know exactly where everything is
+
+2. all the ordnance drops at essentially the same time, so enemy soldiers get caught out of cover - perfect for use at the start of an assault and then tube artillery takes over for sustained firepower while the MLRS reloads
+
+at the individual level MLRS don't exactly have "surgical" precision, sure, but using them effectively involves more thought and planning than hurr shoot at enemy. tube artillery on the other hand is just hurr shoot at enemy, basically. there's not really a situation where you wouldn't fire your tube artillery at a target, but with an MLRS because it takes so fucking long to reload there are plenty of situations where even though you have the ammo for it you may actually hold fire because you're waiting for a more valuable target to come along so you won't get caught reloading.
+--- 57975841
+>>57972218
+>That was never true
+That quote was from the head of the Bundeswehr.
+--- 57977235
+>>57975841
+And the POTUS states repeatedly how school shootings are the #1 cause of dead kids. The head of the Bundeswehr knows hardly more than twitter OSINT-fag #358281 about the current state of the war, hell even the US DoD can barely make more than vague conclusions about how each side is doing in their super sekrit dokuments)
+--- 57977317
+>>57968289
+>grad
+>surgical
+--- 57977456
+Kill yourself,frognigger.
+--- 57977580
+>>57971063
+>Furthermore the new storm Z companies have been very effective
+Effective where? Did they go from advancing meters per week to 10's of meters per week?
+--- 57977613
+I advocate for the wholesale murder in their homes of every fifth columnist who shills for mighty Puccia. I am a moderate.
+--- 57979338
+>>57968258 (OP)
+>[Russia fires] around 40,000 to 60,000 rounds of artillery ammunition per day.
+X to doubt.
+--- 57979343
+>>57968258 (OP)
+>yfw
+--- 57979366
+The tricky part is to hit the enemy, shelling a field is not hard.
+--- 57979370
+>>57968258 (OP)
+They haven't fired 60k per day for a year now. Current max shell output is 9k per day.
+--- 57979376
+>>57974599
+You and op should raise some interesting pistols to head and then do a lgbt suicide together you trans faggoids
+--- 57979382
+>>57968258 (OP)
+Yeah sure. I mean they do have infinite cold war stocks right? They will never need to trade stuff for ammo
+--- 57979395
+>>57968258 (OP)
+>>57979382
+--- 57979397
+>>57968258 (OP)
+nooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IVE BEEN DEMORALIZED WE HAVE TO PULL SUPPORT FOR UKRAINE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM WRITING MY CONGRESSMAN RIGHT NOW DEMANDING WE APOLOGIZE TO PUTIN FOR INTERFERING IN HIS DENAZIFICATION OPERATION
+--- 57979399
+>>57968258 (OP)
+Perhaps AIDS is a CIA conspiracy to eliminate Africans
+--- 57980231
+>>57968258 (OP)
+Anon no you summoned ''Them''

k/57968265.txt

@@ -5,3 +5,63 @@
 Lets activate some almonds
 --- 57968360
 Average /k/ meetup
+--- 57969095
+>>57968360
+I'd never leave behind my 02 daki without boobytrapping it with AT mines to ensure it shall never be defiled by the enemy
+--- 57969244
+>>57968971
+holy fuck that chart formatting is AIDS
+--- 57970441
+>>57969244
+Zoomers are a lost cause. ADHD has won.
+--- 57972378
+>>57968360
+Not enough overweight people or transvestites
+--- 57972450
+Anybody know what happened in this thread? I don't think I caught it again after initially viewing it, it must have archived while I was at work.
+--- 57972510
+>>57972450
+finnanon drives like 3 hours out to a shitty barn, searches for mosin for two days. He did not find it.
+--- 57972559
+>>57972510
+Well that sucks. Oh well
+--- 57973877
+>>57973716
+Is that fucker just sucking on a gas masks filter?
+--- 57973948
+>>57973877
+you gotta work with what you got
+also, checked
+--- 57976317
+Requesting that image of a chicken running and saying that it's not sorry and it's going to die soon or whatever
+--- 57976366
+>>57969244
+>>57970441
+That pic is like 15 years old back when the mosin was the default /k/ weapon (this board was almost all poorfags back then)
+--- 57976400
+>>57969244
+LOST. Lol!
+--- 57976410
+>>57973704
+Why is this guy walking so weird next to some landscaping decorations?
+--- 57976714
+>>57968265 (OP)
+>no /k/ humor
+The last 2 I made I was banned for making an off topic thread.
+--- 57976727
+>>57968265 (OP)
+https://twitter.com/cossackgundi/status/1650441634792734720
+--- 57976800
+>>57968265 (OP)
+>darn straight skippy
+Humor thread let’s go.
+Chucky ar La!
+--- 57978275
+I am once again asking for the greentext of the gunstore anon talking to some retard who asks what the difference between 38spl and 45acp is.
+--- 57980242
+>>57973704
+Rainbow Six: PGA Tragedy
+--- 57980263
+>>57968299
+>Codex Compliant
+Fucking Guilliman, Ultramar is a cancer upon the Imperium.

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+-----
+--- 57968744
+.
+--- 57968766
+>>57968744 (OP)
+id on hoodie?
+--- 57968801
+>>57968744 (OP)
+Too bad it wasn't fatal
+--- 57968859
+Yep that's some redneck shit
+--- 57968917
+>>57968744 (OP)
+N
+--- 57968979
+>>57968744 (OP)
+did the airbags blow out in the car...gwad damn!
+--- 57968993
+Shame it wasn't his eye.
+--- 57968996
+>>57968744 (OP)
+>How did my own bad decision making lead to this?
+--- 57969052
+>>57968744 (OP)
+>Putting his life at risk because he thinks women will want to fuck him once he makes an Instagram post showing how much of a badass he is
+Men will never fix themselves as a species
+--- 57969064
+>>57969052
+Sometimes you just wanna shoot some shit that blows up you know it's not too complex and it's your legal right as an American. Clean, legal fun.
+--- 57969069
+>>57968986
+Does everything in your mind revolve around Ukraine?
+--- 57969080
+>>57969064
+Probably not wise to shoot a target like that up close. Also better to get some tannerite or something or just some milk jugs really. All in all it looks like it was done for the camera and the social media so you know he did this to himself in the end.
+--- 57969082
+>>57969069
+Yes. Does that make you mad, pajeet? Does everything in your mind revolve around being a vatnik shill?
+--- 57969122
+>>57968744 (OP)
+Everybody wants to be gangsta until it's time to face the consequences of it.
+--- 57969130
+>>57969082
+Grow up you little sѹ sucking reddit shit
+--- 57969136
+>>57969082
+Holy fuck, anon. Not every thread has to be about Russia. The fact that you immediately seethed and began assigning allegiances to me clearly indicates that you're obsessed
+--- 57969138
+>>57969082
+>thread shitter calls others a street shitter
+figures
+--- 57969141
+>>57968744 (OP)
+Nigger.
+--- 57969227
+>>57969130
+>>57969136
+>>57969138
+It's so easy to find the pajeets. They don't even try to hide nowadays. They are so butthurt that any mention of Ukraine or pointing out how stupid the russhits are will make them rage, and come out to defend their genocidal friends. I hope all of you can afford toilets when you get paid for your shilling
+--- 57969234
+>>57968744 (OP)
+>Using a brace as a stock
+Yeah, I wonder why the ATF wants to ban those
+--- 57969329
+>>57968744 (OP)
+this fucking moron is lucky he himself and nobody else around this fuckfest lost an eye or worse.
+bad enough he managed to trigger the airbags
+
+making firearms available to everybody without mandatory and proper courses in firearm safety and the basics of what happens when shit explodes was a mistake
+--- 57969488
+>>57969227
+Trying too hard, vatnigger
+--- 57969723
+>>57968744 (OP)
+gake and fay
+--- 57969741
+>on this episode of Why Women Live Longer than Men
+--- 57969812
+>>57968744 (OP)
+sheeeit
+--- 57969817
+>>57968744 (OP)
+here's the version with audio
+
+>https://streamable.com/wy5fkr
+--- 57969833
+>>57969234
+--- 57969835
+>>57969833
+--- 57969925
+Reminds me of that lawnmower+tannerite incident video
+--- 57969997
+>>57969329
+SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
+--- 57970058
+>>57969817
+Repost pls
+--- 57970241
+>>57969488
+>Pajeet deflection
+Try harder and you might be rewarded with a toilet
+--- 57970248
+>>57970058
+https://vxtwitter.com/grindfacetv/status/1650605287517356032?s=46&t=xU40sEpGYVoE8z7RriXHzA
+--- 57970343
+>It was at that moment that he knew, he fucked up
+--- 57970405
+>>57969925
+>muh leg
+--- 57970427
+>>57968744 (OP)
+Shit aim.
+--- 57970588
+>>57968859
+love it. tannerite's a fuckin scream. Probably should hit it from 50m+ at least though.
+--- 57970956
+>>57969069
+try not being an obvious cum/chug/gers next time
+--- 57970963
+>>57969052
+Reminder that the threat of AIDS wasn’t enough to get people to stop fucking. That shit is food and water.
+--- 57971016
+>>57968744 (OP)
+https://youtu.be/hT44eYyArS4 [Embed]
+--- 57971344
+>>57968744 (OP)
+SUBJECT MATTA JURISDICTION
+--- 57971398
+>>57968744 (OP)
+#1 rule for playing with tannerite, don't put material/ fragments in between you and the tannerite
+
+#2 rule is stand back further than you think you need.
+--- 57972132
+>>57968744 (OP)
+kek it doesn't even look that bad unless he got shrapnel embedded in his eyebrow.
+--- 57974624
+>>57968744 (OP)
+i was more distracted by that silly haircut
+--- 57974738
+>>57968744 (OP)
+Does tannerite blow up like that with flames or did they pile the shit on some other fun stuff?
+Also
+>Airbag replacements
+>Hospital visit
+>Getting blood stains out of the interior
+That's an expensive mistake.
+--- 57974750
+>>57969925
+>>57970405
+Legoloss
+--- 57974754
+>>57968917
+I
+--- 57974772
+>>57968744 (OP)
+My nigga you leakin
+--- 57974777
+>>57974738
+Damn, I didn't even notice the airbags going off. This retard was literally like 30 feet away.
+--- 57974778
+>>57969227
+Why would Indian people do that exactly?
+--- 57974813
+>>57970588
+Pretty sure the reccomended minimum distance is like twice that. Even then I'd reccomend having some sort of cover
+>inb4 "You're a pussy"
+This is purely cope for not being able to hit a fatass container of tannerite at 100 yards with a rifle
+--- 57974877
+>>57968744 (OP)
+If he was a real g he would take it like a man.
+--- 57974903
+>>57969234
+The gayTF deserves another McVeigh.
+--- 57974912
+>>57974754
+G
+--- 57975043
+>>57968744 (OP)
+MAXIMUM NOGGERY
+--- 57975454
+>>57968744 (OP)
+are the trees gonna be ok?
+--- 57978635
+>>57969925
+>lawnmower+tannerite incident video
+Ayyyblumuhlagawwff!!!
+--- 57980182
+>>57968744 (OP)
+that's not that bad. moron lucky he didnt lose his eye
+--- 57980394
+>>57974912
+G
+--- 57980418
+>>57969835
+What game is this from and how do I unlock this emote?

k/57968747.txt

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+-----
+--- 57968747
+What's the stupidest thing you have ever done involving firearms or airguns?
+>Be dumb little kid
+>Have a pellet gun
+>Can't remember why but I was shooting at some metal thing that was propped up against the huge wooden garage at my grandparents acerage
+>Wasn't very close if my memory is correct but one of the pellets or a fragment managed to come back and graized either my neck or face can't remember which
+>Stung and there was a small cut
+>No eye protection so if it hit me in the eye could have been really bad
+--- 57968764
+I shot myself through the foot with a crossbow bolt. The string had worn away over months and snapped while I was carrying it.
+
+Surprisingly not that painful, got local anaesthetic and had the bolt pushed through my foot and out the bottom
+--- 57969134
+>>57968764
+What broadhead did you have on it (if any)
+--- 57969203
+>>57969134
+Luckily I was using target points and removable fletching. The hardest bit was getting my boot removed while it was attached to my foot via the shaft
+--- 57969216
+>>57969203
+And yes, I was a fucking retard and have since learnt proper trigger discipline and carrying. Pain is a fast teacher and it sticks around in your memory
+--- 57969242
+>>57968747 (OP)
+--- 57969243
+When I got my heavy compound crossbow and tried testing it out IN MY BACK YARD, shot a 4cm board and the bolt penetrated like hot knife through butter, past the fence and flew into neighbors yard and beyond that.
+
+I lost a good carbon fibre bolt that day.
+--- 57969253
+>>57969242
+Classic
+--- 57969266
+>>57968747 (OP)
+Shot through my dad's freshly built fence because my dumbass didn't realise height over bore is a thing. Couldn't understand why I wasn't hitting the cans until I looked over the scope and saw the mess I'd made of it.
+--- 57969300
+>>57968747 (OP)
+>have some Aguila 22 LR Colibri
+>it's as quiet as a pellet gun when fired out of my lever-action
+>shoot it in my backyard at night sometimes
+>have neighbors pretty close by but it's quiet enough that i'm pretty sure nobody knows what it is
+>wonder if it would somehow cycle in my 10/22
+>load a few into one of those shitty little rotary mags
+>go outside and point the muzzle into the dirt
+>BANG
+>nearly shit myself
+>hear dirt falling around me
+>run back inside
+>turn all of the lights out and stare at my ceiling for 2 hours
+--- 57969345
+Almost killed my dad when I was 9. 
+
+>Be sitting behind camo net turkey hunting with dad inna winter 
+>Be wearing really fat gloves cause I dont wanna get cold
+>Sitting next to dad with shot gun across my lap
+>9 year old me is doubtful his glove with fit into the trigger guard
+>cram that mf in there and I launch 3 inches of hate towards my dad's spine
+>miss him by an inch or two
+>dad's army budy who was hunting with us callled because he heard a gunshot and thought we scored. 
+>dad has to explain that his retard son almost killed him
+>9 year old me cries
+>21 year old me also cries as he types this
+--- 57969365
+>>57969345
+>21 year old me also cries as he types this
+
+Relatable
+--- 57969465
+>>57968747 (OP)
+I loaded an air gun with a ball of paper and shot it at my sister's bare belly. It hurt a lot but not as much as the beating my dad gave me.
+--- 57969497
+>>57968747 (OP)
+>out shooting with dad and older brother
+>load and cock 22
+>realize in doing that my gloves are being a pain in the ass and decide to take them off
+>set 22 on hood of brother's 1980 buick regal
+>begin taking off gloves
+>because the Regal hood is curved the 22 begins to spin and muzzle sweeps my dad and brother
+>dad mad as he frantically grabs the 22 to keep it from sweeping me too
+--- 57969502
+>>57969345
+>>57969497
+gloves seem very unsafe
+--- 57969514
+>first apartment, thick stone walls so no neighbors complain about noise
+>have pellet rifle + bullet catch on wall
+>always leave the gun unloaded after practice
+>friend spends a weekend
+>he shoots a few times for fun, then puts the rifle back
+>few weeks later, I didn't touch the gun since my friend did
+>the very same friend staying one weekend again
+>he's doing something at the desk, checking his phone or whatever
+>think it would be funny to scare him with a pop
+>point rifle at him, think even at the back of his head
+>at last moment I change my mind and point at bullet catch, pull trigger
+>a pellet penetrates the target
+>that motherfucker loaded the gun and left it like that when he put it away
+>I almost shot him with that
+>he didn't even flinch, look back at me or something
+I was young and inexperienced. Gun discipline exists for a reason. Pellets are not very strong, but I wouldn't want to imagine what that could have caused against his head
+--- 57969530
+>>57969497
+Another time I was shooting a pellet rifle at milk jugs from not very far away.
+I had no eye protection when a pellet bounced off the jug and got me right between the eyes.
+
+I wore it after that though.
+
+
+I had an almost similar deal with a roman candle. 
+I went out to fire roman candles at plastic army men I had placed about and after lighting it, the fuse burnt down inside the tube but didn't go off.
+I tried peeling off the paper and looking into the tube to see if the fuse had gone dead but I couldn't see shit. Then no sooner than the exact moment I pointed it away from my face the fucking thing went off.
+
+Twice I almost lost a fucking eye.
+--- 57969539
+>>57969530
+Maybe you should take the hint and scoop that ol' boy out
+--- 57969542
+>>57969539
+kek
+
+I'd have to go with the ice cream scoop as I don't have a melon baller.
+--- 57969551
+>>57969243
+Reminds me of when I got a compound bow and my dad shot it into the air, in the middle of the backyard. Gladly it only landed in a neighbor's backyard where nobody was at that time.
+--- 57969589
+>>57968747 (OP)
+At least you didn't get your brother to shoot it at a bowl on your head
+--- 57969608
+>>57969242
+Genuinely subhuman
+--- 57970370
+>>57969242
+Never understand one thing why are indian men so skinny but there women so fat?
+--- 57970930
+>be on a live maneuver range in the mil
+>one guy shoots while another moves
+>basic stuff
+>all going well 
+>go to turn in extra ammo
+>one boot didn't fire a round
+>was too scared to
+>instead was screaming BANG at of his lungs 
+he was moved to hq shortly there afterwards
+--- 57971005
+>>57969345
+So why was the gun pointed at anywhere close to your dad?
+--- 57971015
+>>57969608
+It probably a whore house in india they some times kidnap women and sell them to these brothels and they are kept as slaves until they get too old to work there and thrown out india is a hell hole no one talks about
+--- 57971020
+>>57968747 (OP)
+Nearly Kurt Cobaiend myself with a shotgun I had that jammed, was very inexperienced so I looked down the barrel and almost shot off my head.
+
+ Needless to say I got rid of that piece of shit and I’m paranoid about checking the chamber each time a get a gun.
+--- 57971042
+>>57969300
+Why was it so loud out of your 10/22 instead of the lever action? Just the noise of the action cycling? Can a colibri even cycle a 10/22?
+--- 57971059
+>Playing with model 19
+>mmm i love s&w goodness
+>reload the cylinder with 6 hornady 140gr .357 boolits
+>set my only love on the table in front of me
+>get up to go grab me some luscious flouride infused hydration
+>waist catches the butt of the revovler 
+>gun starts tumbling off the table
+>oh no
+>instinctively my hand bolts to catch it
+>my grasp was too strong
+>left hand pulled trigger while right hand was grabbing the muzzle
+>BOOM
+>fuckin ow
+Ended up just going through the meat of my hand, missing anything important
+--- 57971074
+>>57971059
+Correction, my left was in contact with the muzzle, my right pulled the trigger
+--- 57971119
+>>57969242
+SIR PLEASE DO NOT RACK THE SLIDE
+YOU SON OF BASTARD BITCH DO NOT SQUEEZE
+--- 57971223
+>be like 13
+>go to gay commercial indoor range
+>shoot ceiling on purpose
+>"oops, not used to this gun yet :^)"
+clean it up range janny
+fucking $60 for 30 minutes my ass
+--- 57971232
+>>57968747 (OP)
+I used to own a handgun, that was pretty God damn retarded.
+--- 57971331
+I forgot to drop the magazine and clear my pistol, so I almost turned dry fire practice into wet fire practice
+--- 57971474
+>>57969345
+Muzzle safety, anon
+Hope that was a learning experience
+--- 57971521
+>>57968747 (OP)
+not sure if it counts but as a kid we are having a bb battle in my buddies house and we ended up in their basement. where I grabed a heavy duty staple gun and shot my buddy in the arm and almost hit his eye. we were like 9 and he was bleeding like a motherfucker. I offered him to play nintendo and playstation at my house as much as he wants if he doesnt tell anybody but the little faggot told his mom and we werent allowed to play together for the longest time. after which I flung a rock like a monkey throws shit and hit him right in the fucking forhead.
+--- 57971621
+>>57970370
+These aren't Indians.
+--- 57971649
+>be 12
+>have 10 pump bb gun I probably put 5 digits of shots through
+>family about to leave to go to a movie
+>desperately need to use the shower but younger sister is taking forever
+>yelling is accomplishing nothing
+>decide I'm going to bounce bbs against the bathroom door because if I'm going to be a nuisance I'm going to have fun
+>start with 1 pump
+>decide that's not loud enough
+>work up to like 5
+>still not loud enough
+>go straight to full 10 pumps
+>blow a .177" hole through the door
+>embeds itself in the wall 3" from the shower
+>dad throws it in the garbage
+In all fairness, I deserved it, but that gun was the only thing that made living 5 miles from the nearest neighbor bearable for a kid in 2008. I'm still a little sad I was so retarded.
+--- 57971675
+>>57971521
+Your parents should have had your psychotic-ass exorcised.
+--- 57971687
+>>57968747 (OP)
+>guns
+never
+>air guns 
+shot the fuck out of my tv when i was a kid playing with my bb gun because i figured out it would fire when unloaded, except i forgot to unload it
+--- 57972904
+>>57968747 (OP)
+Did this to myself this weekend 
+Thankfully it was unchambered
+But I didn’t realize till afterwards how retarded I was
+--- 57972946
+>>57969242
+I like how someone finally grabbed a gun out of his hands.
+also how is no one deaf after those two shots?
+--- 57973012
+>>57968747 (OP)
+>almost shot the roof my mouth with co2 bb glock 
+never actually thought about what that might’ve done
+--- 57973014
+>>57968747 (OP)
+Damn dude, what did you tell your mom? That an ice sickle fell on you?
+--- 57973091
+Not me, but my friend
+>"is your shotgun chambered?"
+>no
+>takes the gun and fiddles with it
+>pumps the forestock and pulls the trigger
+>it flips from his hands
+>"wtf I though you said it's not chambered??"
+>it wasn't until you loaded it
+--- 57973250
+>>57973014
+My memory is hazy so I'm not actually sure if I even got a cut. And I've never told anyone lol.
+--- 57973503
+>>57971074
+Do you know how lucky you are if what you said is true. be thankful you can still go hand to gland combat.
+--- 57973516
+>>57969589
+--- 57974409
+>>57971042
+I had a CCI Velocitor in the chamber
+--- 57974446
+>>57968747 (OP)
+>>>/gif/25006558
+--- 57974456
+>>57969242
+>woman "sleeping" in the corner next to him doesn't even flinch
+Dead? OD?
+--- 57974487
+>>57969345
+You and your dad are retarded. Hope the army buddy never came with you guys again.
+--- 57974522
+>>57971015
+Aren't the brothels in Bangladesh?
+--- 57974532
+shot a 38spl snubby at a coke bottle 25 yards away and expected to hit anything
+hammered a nail through the primer of a shotgun shell in a vise
+saw an ex-friend flag 4 different family members in under 10 minutes and claim there was nothing wrong with it
+>he was not invited back to the cookout
+--- 57974584
+>>57968747 (OP)
+When I was 14 I shot at a pheasant with an air rifle. I missed, or the hen didnt give a fuck. Next day I almost cut the side of my thumb off trying to make arrows out of sticks, had to get 2 stitches. I thought it was karma and haven't tried to harm animals since. Except rats, but apparently even karma doesnt give a fuck about rats.
+--- 57974694
+>>57974584
+>and haven't tried to harm animals since
+Based
+Warm bloodeds have too much personality to kill without cause 
+Only go after snakes and gators
+--- 57974806
+>>57971521
+every day on this site red flag laws look better and better
+--- 57974808
+>>57968747 (OP)
+>very large shop
+>dad had cz527 22 hornet laying out with scope
+>would pretend like i was sniper from saving private 
+>dad smoking drinking watching tv
+>would cocking action and aiming straight for his skull pulling tigger all the way from back of shop
+> he never knew
+Was dumbest shit i have ever done with a gun as a kid even though i knew it wasnt loaded
+--- 57974841
+>>57971042
+I bought some by mistake when I was nogunz and a coworker offered to take me shooting. We didn't go, but I still had the ammo when I became hasgunz. It cycled my 795 maybe 2/3 of the time. Really dang quiet still.
+--- 57974849
+>>57968747 (OP)
+my sear broke when i engaged the safety on my AR, the hammer dropped and fired a 5.56 inside my apartment complex. Bullet went through a backpack, a TV, slightly ricocheted off a helium tank and then went halfway through a couch before it stopped in the wood crossbeam. 
+LUCKILY it was a friday night at like 9:30 and almost all the people in my complex were under 30 years old so only two of my neighbors were actually home, neither of them heard anything. 
+last time I buy a PSA trigger kit.
+--- 57974950
+>>57974456
+>>woman "sleeping" in the corner next to him doesn't even flinch
+I sometimes do that when I'm in an unpleasant situation I can't do anything about.
+Like when my dad gets drunk and extremely embarrassing in a public place.
+I either just stare into the abyss without saying a word for an hour or pretend to sleep.
+--- 57975027
+Happened earlier this month.
+>testing the fit of a PTR-91 on a sighting sled so I can dial in the irons and then a scope
+>the bolt lever collides with the strap holding the front end on top of the rest
+>hkslap.gif
+>out of habit, I dry fire to decock
+>realize a second later I never checked the chamber and almost ND’d into the concrete basement wall if a round had been chambered
+I’m usually way better about this but that was a close oopsie.
+--- 57975373
+>>57974950
+to not even flinch when a gun is shot that close to you, when you weren't expecting it, defies belief.
+--- 57976115
+Had a dry fire fight with a friend where we chased each other through the house dry firing blot action 22s at each other. We checked to see they were unloaded of course but the mere act was an affront to all gun safety rules except the first one, to have fun.
+--- 57976566
+>>57971675
+I also had one of these toy crossbows with the sticky suction bolt thingies. nearby was a scrapyard so I reverse engineered it using metal from the scrapyard and used all kinds of material for bolts. I was 12-13 and by that time I got the beetus. I ended up shooting the suction bolts modified with insulin needles or ball bearings as tips I attached . The ball bearing bolts had enough force to punch a whole in my neighbours garage door. It was really really hard to charge the crossbow especially for a 13yo but it waa the coolest shit on the block. Sadly it got taken away because one of my buddies used it to shoot birds and killed a chicken with it (or so he thought). he tried to burn the chicken to cover it up but it wasnt 100% dead and he burned it alive which caused all the chickens to loose their shit and alerted the entire neighbourhood so that didnt go down too well and ended the crossbow era because the little bitch tried to pin it on me for making the crossbow in the first place. I ended up trying to make bows instead but they never really worked out
+--- 57976598
+>>57975373
+>to not even flinch
+baby and female mammals, humans included often have a fear response that involves freezing absolutely still until the threat is over or there's a chance to run away.
+Its one reason blacks are so fundamentally odd, they literally chimp out instead of doing this, they don't do fight-or-flight, they just do hysteria-or-senseless-mayhem
+--- 57976670
+>>57976598
+nah man, even deer who freeze up flinch before the freeze. That woman is OUT, not merely asleep.
+--- 57976674
+>>57972946
+Don't know what you'rEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE talking about, hearing is as normal.
+--- 57976680
+>>57976115
+What if they weren’t unloaded
+--- 57977392
+>go to a cap and ball meetup/shoot
+>its full of old fucks and weirdo hipsters that look like Ian from forgotten weapons
+>decide to hang out with the old fucks
+>shoot my colt navy a bunch
+>laugh and hear a bunch of funny stories from the old fucks
+>suddenly head a loud bang that was very obviously not a regular
+>the hipsters have 3 men down, one with a giant 7 inch laceration going up his forearm
+>One of the retards loaded his cheap replica with smokeless powder and blew up his cylinder
+--- 57977528
+>>57968747 (OP)
+Almost took out a tv with a nd from an airshit at someone’s house when I was 15
+--- 57978655
+>>57968747 (OP)
+>Be me, 10 Y/O
+>going through dads box of stuff from college in the basement hoping for a magnet with tits on it or something idk
+>find pic rel
+>beg dad to let me use it, he finally says yes
+>takes me to store and we get copperheads and CO2
+>we get back to the house, mom is out with my aunt and my dad's childhood friend comes over to show off his harley he built and see the triumph my dad was building 
+>go under the back deck and line up some empty bottles to shoot
+>literally never used a bb gun before so I don't know how to aim, miss nearly every bottle
+>CLICK, gun jams
+>intrusivethoughtwins.jpeg
+>put hand in front of the muzzle and pull the trigger for literally no fucking reason
+>in slow motion, see a copperhead blast into my left ring finger, can literally see the bb buried in tendons
+>freak the absolute fuck out, run into the garage and tell my dad i shot myself
+>his friend says "I told you he would"
+>dad pops the bb out and it rolls on the floor, bandages my finger
+>"don't tell mom" "ok"
+>mom comes home
+>sees me white as a ghost, asks what's wrong, I immediately spill the beans
+
+And that's why I never got to have a bb gun again until I was like 16
+
+also
+
+>Be me, 8, early 2000's
+>over at friend's house
+>"want to see my dads cool old rifle collection?"
+>go up to his dad's room, open up giant wooden chest in corner of the room
+>full of milsurp rifles
+>friend pulls out bolt gun, I think it was a Mosin 
+>cycles the bolt, levels it at my stomach
+>CLICK
+>we laugh, go on back downstairs and continue putting thumbtacks on the ends of nerf darts and shooting them at each other
+
+I realize now that my friend, who quite frankly was always way smarter than me and loved to freak me out, was aware that the rifle was unloaded, and just wanted to see my reaction, but god damn if it doesn't still kinda freak me out thinking about it.
+P.S 
+I also shot a spanish mauser out my back bedroom window when I was 19 in a suburban neighborhood because I wanted to test it out
+--- 57978795
+>>57969242
+Don’t know why, but I can imagine exactly how that feels. 
+Cringe worthy in the literal sense man
+--- 57979241
+>>57968747 (OP)
+Sheared off my thumbnail with pic rel mothafucka, after very unwisely pushing a little dingus inside while it was cocked.

k/57969291.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,550 @@
+-----
+--- 57969291
+Armata bros, IT'S OUR FUCKING TIME
+--- 57969301
+>>57969291 (OP)
+Did it fire at a forest and then show a bunch of dead ukrainians in a snow field?
+--- 57969306
+>>57969291 (OP)
+>'Here is our claimed 'superior' Tank, let us just use it as an overly expensive artillery piece because the propaganda damage of loosing them would outweigh their actual battlefield capabilities'
+--- 57969311
+>>57969291 (OP)
+
+Wow all three of them?!
+--- 57969334
+it was claimed before and without geolocated evidence its just fairy tales for vatnigs again. at best its photo ops at some staging area closer to the border
+--- 57969339
+>they have not yet participated in direct assault operations
+tl;dr: its not being used in combat
+--- 57969344
+>THIS TIME FOR SURE
+--- 57969348
+>>57969291 (OP)
+ALL THREE OF THEM?!
+--- 57969350
+>>57969306
+>>57969339
+>tank shoots at enemy
+>HURR DURR THAT DOESN'T COUNT
+
+I fucking hate you people
+--- 57969393
+>>57969350
+>tank shoots at enemy
+You can bet they just fired in the general direction of Ukraine at best if they wanted to tell a partial truth, and nowhere near any Ukrainian position.
+--- 57969406
+>>57969350
+can i see the said shot at the enemy by armata?
+--- 57969414
+>>57969350
+show us a video you retard
+--- 57969421
+>>57969291 (OP)
+>russians claim T-14 is finally in Ukraine for the 200th time
+Nothingburger
+--- 57969581
+>>57969291 (OP)
+I'll cum buckets if one is lost to a Ukie larping as a SS Panzergrenadier using a Pzf 3.
+--- 57969616
+>>57969291 (OP)
+THIS IS IT putin is deploying INVINCIBLE T 14 ARMATA directly to UKRANIAN TWITTER! soon the t 14 armata will conduct DEEP OPERATIONS and maneuver to attack the entire STRATEGIC DEPTH of ukranian twitter feeds.
+--- 57969631
+>>57969581
+Honestly I just want one to end up in some bog on the border, giving wise advice to nearby passers by, such as "don't invade Ukraine".
+--- 57969674
+>>57969291 (OP)
+Well, it is time for America to pay the bills!
+--- 57970765
+>>57969638
+Name of right?
+--- 57970805
+>>57969291 (OP)
+How long before it ends up like the Terminator?
+--- 57970885
+>>57970765
+Dee Williams
+--- 57970909
+>>57970885
+thanks!
+--- 57970910
+>>57970805
+>1 destroyed after almost a year
+So... as good as advertised? Possibly better?
+--- 57970927
+>>57969291 (OP)
+I bet This is a 5D Scrabble move to explain why they won't be at the parade in May. "They are all went to life on a farm in Eastern Ukraine. So sorry non could be at the parade:("
+--- 57971026
+I expect one at Aberdeen by the 4th of July of this year.
+--- 57971133
+>>57969301
+Better yet, it fired at a forest and then showed a bunch of dead russians in a snow field.
+--- 57971138
+>>57969291 (OP)
+So they'll drag one to a middle of some forest, CGI some cannon fire and claim the destruction of a dozen banderist division?
+--- 57971148
+>>57970805
+I'm personally hoping one gets knocked out by a Leopard 1.
+--- 57971163
+Extra protection on their flanks? The Armata vehicles were all already wide as fuck.
+--- 57971166
+>>57971148
+I don't care what does it so long as we see if it can beat the turret tossing world record.
+--- 57971185
+>>57971163
+You mean it has G I R T H
+--- 57971309
+>>57969291 (OP)
+Time to beat turret throwing Ukraine Javelin national record, do what you do best vatnik, you got it!
+--- 57971361
+>some tank can drive but dont shoot
+>some tanks shoot but cant drive
+Never tought he was talking about armatas...
+--- 57971391
+>>57969291 (OP)
+Isn't this like the 3rd or 4th time they have said this lol?
+--- 57971395
+>>57969291 (OP)
+Are tanks truly obsolete now bros?
+--- 57971902
+>>57969350
+Sir where are the proofs sir?
+--- 57972032
+>>57969291 (OP)
+>copying donbabwe's move of wearing out all your tank barrels doing indirect fire
+Are they that desperate to say armata did something?
+--- 57972102
+>send your best tank into battle
+>relegate to indirect fire because you are so afraid of it getting yeeting
+
+topkek, russia never disappoints in this war
+--- 57972120
+>>57969638
+This is why we invaded
+--- 57972136
+>>57971902
+>Sir where are the proofs sir?
+Oh, saar, I em verrry verrry sorrrry, but I have redeemed them, saar.
+--- 57972168
+How long until the tractor brigade gets one and it ends up on a trailer in South Carolina?
+--- 57972185
+>>57969350
+It shot in the general direction of the enemy. Does that count?
+--- 57972222
+God damn, that Armata has more introductions than a late 80s VCR dating tape.
+--- 57972268
+>>57971148
+For me a Bradley, either way I'd probably take the day off just to join the online hysterical laughter.
+--- 57972305
+>>57969350
+I fart in your general direction
+--- 57972454
+>>57970910
+It’s easier for them to never get destroyed if they are never deployed because they don’t actually work
+--- 57972727
+>>57972268
+Bradley crews are probably going to be the first ones to encounter them anyway, so my money is on them
+--- 57972758
+>>57971148
+>>57972268
+We all know they're just going to drive them into a minefield anyway.
+--- 57972774
+>>57969291 (OP)
+it debuted by shelling a flower bed in Belgorod
+--- 57972793
+>>57969306
+There's no other feasible way to use a tank in that war without losing it immediately, due to sheer amount of anti-tank weapons of various sizes. These weapons also double as anti-infantry weapons because they go boom and people can't sustain much boom, it's why they're so prominent even if the amount of armor fielded there is minuscule.
+--- 57972795
+>>57972758
+My thoughts exactly. Wether you send a T62 or a T14 into the minefield, TENK IZ TENK
+--- 57972828
+>>57972795
+Same is true for driving into enemy ATGM killzone. No amount of armor can save you from being struck repeatedly by those huge fuckoff rockets. 
+>b-but I can just shoot at the MANPAD! they can't hit me if I hit them first!
+First of all you can't, ARGM range is far beyond your cannon range. And second, even if you somehow could, good luck figuring out which one of those ten million single-pixel blips on your FLIR is the launcher.
+--- 57972853
+@57972828
+yeah
+--- 57972984
+>>57969291 (OP)
+>they use T-14
+What, all ten of them? 
+
+Props for making isolated crew cabin I guess, now ammo cookoff won't kill the boys. Funny how every soviet autoloader tank technically had cookoff barriers but they were never hermetically sealed.
+--- 57973021
+>>57969291 (OP)
+proofs?
+--- 57973040
+>>57969638
+tehe i see nipple
+--- 57973092
+>>57972168
+I wish Armatard was still with us having meltdowns.
+--- 57973296
+>>57972828
+>First of all you can't, ARGM range is far beyond your cannon range
+What? Tank cannons have a 5km range
+--- 57973302
+>>57969291 (OP)
+as spg
+--- 57973394
+>>57969291 (OP)
+It's a cool tank but I honestly don't expect much of note from it. At the end of the day it's only a tank. This war exemplified very patently that people who thought tanks were hot shit have basically just been drinking their own kool aid, and factually tanks as a whole fill a niche that doesn't actually exist. 
+
+There's no scenario in which tanks make a difference. They don't outrange anything other than RPGs. Their firepower is inferior to plain old field artillery. Their protection can't reliably save them from anything more substantial than a bullet, and even then it can be crippled by machinegun fire. They're huge and unwieldy and you can hear them coming from literally several miles away, and the same weapons used to destroy clumps of infantry can be used to destroy tanks. 
+
+There are niches for mobile artillery, for light IFVs, for ultralight MANPADs, for lightly armored medivacs, for completely unarmored trucks. But there is no nice that a heavily armored limited range mobile cannon fills. Tanktards will insist that it is, based on some textbook strategy bullshit that is as detached from reality as cringey corporate memes are detached from comedy. Tanks don't have a niche because its entire gimmick - heavy armor - is just that, a gimmick. It's readily bypassed even by hand-held weapons, as per their modern state. And besides armor, tanks have nothing going for them. So for all intents and purposes, it's just a worse IFV that costs more.
+--- 57973405
+>>57973296
+The most popular ATGM of Ukraine conflict - Kornet - has range of 8 km. There are modifications of this ATGM with greater range than that.
+--- 57973452
+>>57973405
+>The most popular ATGM of Ukraine conflict - Kornet - has range of 8 km.
+--- 57973479
+>>57973452
+Why yes.
+
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M133_Kornet
+--- 57973487
+>>57973452
+sauce from the wikipedia article
+https://armstrade.org/includes/periodics/news/2011/0720/16058936/detail.shtml
+--- 57973493
+>>57973394
+So why the ukies want western tanks so badly then?
+--- 57973501
+>>57973493
+to bomb donetsk children, slava ukraine!
+--- 57973505
+>>57973092
+I want to feed his old posts to an AI and revive him as a horrible frankenvatnik AI monster.
+--- 57973527
+>>57973501
+hail hitler to that, brother
+--- 57973533
+>>57969291 (OP)
+TWO
+MORE 
+WEEKS
+--- 57973549
+>>57973493
+Same reason why Russia uses increasingly old tank stock: it's a shitty mobile artillery, but it's a mobile artillery nonetheless. At the want of proper self propelled howitzers, you use tanks. 
+
+I've been in that war and I have never seen tanks used in any other role. That includes the multiple times enemy tanks fired at me from basically their maximum range.
+--- 57973576
+>>57969348
+oh its a vid? cool i thought the sude was a picture
+--- 57973585
+>>57973394
+You fail to mention APS which adults fit to their tanks but these third world squabbles lack.
+--- 57973587
+>>57969291 (OP)
+Moeagareeee moeagareee Arumataaaa
+
+Kidoooo Senshiiiii Arumataa! Arumata!
+--- 57973591
+>>57973479
+>>57973487
+>The most popular ATGM of Ukraine conflict - Kornet
+No.
+--- 57973642
+>>57973585
+>muh APS
+It reduces the odds of successful hit, not by very much, for a very limited number of times and only exactly once per specific direction, with a chance that the system will fail altogether after the first connection due to the explosion knocking out the sensors. 
+
+So yeah. Turned out those are a whole lot of talking big shit and not a whole lot of backing it up. Much like 99% of everything else about tanks.
+--- 57973654
+>>57973452
+Here's your koronet bro
+--- 57973679
+>>57973654
+Not kornet.
+
+They went into privet nook to suck each other off.
+
+This is a warcrime.
+--- 57973680
+>>57973654
+Though so. Static Kornet positions are dead meat in this war. Stugnas at least have a remote control.
+--- 57973683
+>>57972222
+Digits also nice reference
+--- 57973688
+>>57969350
+>rolls over the border
+>fires indirectly in the direction of Ukranian forces.
+I used to fire a rifle at targets to my north while in Northern Vermont. Does that mean I was engaged in special operations in Canada?
+--- 57973712
+>>57973680
+Their mistake was leaving their shelter while there was a drone airborne. Someone in there has to be very retarded to ignore this guideline, either the crew or their superior. Probably both.
+--- 57973717
+>>57973688
+You did you duty, man of /pol/
+--- 57973730
+>>57969291 (OP)
+Are they too scared to use them as something more than a glorified artillery?
+--- 57973732
+>>57973505
+Do it. /k/ needs its own robovatnik.
+--- 57973737
+>>57969350
+Who are you calling U people?!
+--- 57973738
+>>57972268
+This. The embarrassment of losing one to a Bradley is what the vatniks deserve. They'll probably say said Bradley was crewed by NATO super soldiers with a British Field Marshal as commander. It will probably also have a cloaking shield.
+--- 57973781
+>>57973092
+Warriortard has taken up the mantle. As has Dennis. Possibly the same people.
+--- 57973818
+>>57973730
+Well using them as artillery bears like 0.1% chance of losing the vehicle at each sorty. Using them as anything else and the odds skyrocket to 30+%. What little advantage they bring temporarily doesn't justifies losing such an expensive vehicle and its crew.
+--- 57973838
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-opSlCGLGQ4 [Embed]
+--- 57973844
+>>57969393
+>he thinks the tanks were anywhere near ukraine at all
+Kek
+--- 57973879
+>>57973781
+warriortard isn't technically wrong though, the starstreak is a shit product
+--- 57973896
+>>57973585
+>>57973642
+On the topic of APS, specifically the russian Afganit IMHO makes too many poor trades in capability. It lets go of 360 degree protection for more rounds on the frontal arc, the interceptors themselves are non-articulated and predicated on turret orientation meaning you can still be hit frontally if your turret rotated too far to one side. It has no hard-kill capability against top attacks so it relies fully on soft-kill for those, I can't find sources on what the soft-kills are but I'm assuming IR smoke/chaff. I will give it that it has better ammo capacity and the interceptors themselves look much bigger which lead to better performance against APFSDS especially if they're EFPs but I'm not sure it's confirmed what the actual interceptor is. 
+
+APS is better than no APS but I'd much rather sit in a tank with thick NERA composite arrays and an articulated APS like Iron Fist even at the expense of APFSDS performance and round count.
+--- 57973908
+>>57973818
+>temporary
+To elaborate. Most /k/ wouldn't think it's a huge problem because their whole idea about using tanks comes from video games where the battles are not nearly as intense nor protracted as in real life, or there's just straight up videogame physics involved, so this factor doesn't comes into play. But in real life tanks have very limited amount of ammo and they run out very fast, at which point they have to abandon battle and run all the way back to the base. They typically run out of ammo in less than an hour, in particularly intense scenarios - within minutes. This isn't a make-or-break amount of power.
+--- 57973914
+>>57973879
+Hello warriortard.
+--- 57973929
+>>57973879
+>the starstreak is a shit product
+>has helicopter, aircraft and drone kills
+>praised by Ukraine
+>so much so they asked for more
+>Russia said they'd target people who used them
+>nooooooo there is only a dozen videos not hundred so it is shit
+By that logic the Mistral is the worse AA system ever. Hell, don't even think we've seen Gepards down anything either. Don't be retarded.
+--- 57973973
+>>57969350
+we hate you too, fag
+--- 57973991
+>>57973896
+I'd rather not sit in a tank period. It's not a motorized fortress anymore, nowdays it's a motorized casket. You're much better off on foot, just for the fact of not being a juicy target for everyone within 30 km radius. I suppose ideally you could ride a 50cc bike.
+--- 57974038
+>>57973896
+>>57973991
+Also, there's this one important thing of note. No type of armor can stop laser guided 152mm munitions. If you field tanks that can't easily be taken down by ATGMs, they'll be put on D-20 priority hit list which is actually worse because that shit is a guaranteed instakill.
+--- 57974383
+>>57973405
+With a speed of 320m/s. Cannons fire at 1600-1800 m/s. The flight time difference at those ranges is huge. 
+
+Also good luck hitting fuck all at 8k meters using the sighting system on the kornet. Or a javelin or any other similar platform.
+--- 57974426
+>>57969350
+sheni traki deda mogithan
+--- 57974433
+>>57974383
+Javelin has a maximum range of 5km with a thermal sight and 12x zoom, dumbass
+--- 57974465
+>>57973679
+>one goes behind a wall and presumably kneels
+>other approaches him and stands
+This is actually plausible
+--- 57974480
+>>57974383
+Do you have any idea how the Javelin works?
+--- 57974763
+>>57971133
+Fired at Belgorod kek
+--- 57974774
+>>57969291 (OP)
+may I see it?
+--- 57974779
+>>57974383
+javelin is fire-and-forget.
+
+same thing with the british saab tune im blanking on, but thats not really guided even though it tracks.
+--- 57974787
+>>57973688
+>he doesn't know
+--- 57974929
+>>57969350
+>tank shoots at enemy
+This still hasn't even happened, lol.
+--- 57974962
+>>57969350
+This, it’s toddler level thinking on the part of our new u/k/raine reddi.t friends
+
+>Russia is bad
+>therefore only things that make Russia look bad are true or real
+--- 57974986
+>>57974962
+why can ziggers not post a single time without immediately outing themselves? No one but you is this obsessed with reddit, trannies, gays, etc.
+--- 57975169
+>>57974433
+So less than range and zoom than a tank cannon. Which was my initial point
+--- 57975172
+>>57974962
+>coke with outlandish claims with 0 (zero) evidence to back it up
+>call the detractors names from the FSB approved list instead
+
+gee
+--- 57975188
+>>57974986
+I guess you have toddler level reading skills too, if it took you until the reddit reference to realize that the post wasnt pro Ukraine lol. Now it makes sense why you nuggets need overly obvious cocomelon size flags added to your webms
+--- 57975237
+>>57970910
+You mean only one deployed after a year
+--- 57975263
+>>57975188
+Nah, leave tourist.
+--- 57975275
+>>57975263
+>calls other people tourist 
+Now I see that you have descended from toddler to parrot level language skills.
+--- 57975504
+>>57969350
+>>tank shoots at enemy
+May I see it?
+--- 57975564
+>>57973092
+Warriortard and Glowie Screecher are sock puppet characters of Armatard, he's with us and seething like he always has.
+--- 57975590
+>>57973732
+I just need to find his old accounts when he posted on military forums, for authenticity's sake. Someone here apparently found them all, but I don't know if there's an archived post.
+--- 57975719
+I know /k/ is seething at Russia and the T-14 is by all reports a piece of shit but can we all admit it looks cool as hell?
+--- 57976448
+>>57975719
+It looks like shit. The T-90 is a significantly sexier tank.
+--- 57976550
+>>57975719
+It's a Lego tank ugly as fuck. 
+T90 is peak Russian sexiness, especially the early model with the red eyes.
+--- 57976997
+>>57976448
+>>57976550
+Agreed that the T-90 is sexier. But the Russians can't keep the Cold War tank aesthetic forever, can they?
+--- 57977097
+>/k/ finally gets to see the armata in action
+>can't help but seethe because it's russian
+very cringe desu
+--- 57977119
+>>57975719
+It looks like blocky chink shit
+--- 57977147
+>>57976997
+No, but then again Russia isn't going to last even close to forever anyway.
+--- 57978931
+>>57969291 (OP)
+It's bs. Same bs story also claims they used the T-14 in Syria.
+--- 57979423
+>>57969334
+>it was claimed before and without geolocated evidence its just fairy tales
+Exactly. Same as any Leopards or Abrams. I'll believe it when I see one burning
+--- 57979439
+>>57975504
+No.
+--- 57979440
+>>57969291 (OP)
+someone should steal one and paint it purple and gold.
+--- 57979449
+new point defense just dropped
+--- 57979462
+>>57975275
+Leave tourist
+--- 57979468
+>>57969350
+by soviet doctrine, the best tanks are concentrated into mechanized divisions for the breakthrough and exploitation and the worst tanks are spread out to support infantry or expended in probing attacks
+
+if a T-14 is used as a guntruck, then this is implicitly a sign that its an inferior model only good for moving at walking speed and shooting at bunkers and trenches
+essentially making it a giant waste of money
+--- 57979474
+>>57969291 (OP)
+meanwhile the Hipoint YC9 has yet to surface
+America btfo forever, Russia wins the paperweight game
+--- 57979492
+>>57979449
+Holy hell
+--- 57979511
+>>57969581
+You and thousands more. I want an Azovite to make the kill with quality ground and drone video of burning gopnigs screaming as they don't quite make it out of the vehicle, never to shill MY /k/ again.
+--- 57979528
+>>57979511
+I don't think it's tank crews posting here
+--- 57979544
+>>57969291 (OP)
+Prepare your anus hohols
+--- 57979545
+>>57979528
+but the gif will become instant kryptonite to Armatards forever.
+--- 57979554
+>>57979545
+Military equipment being destroyed in a war won't stop internet propagandists from doing their jobs, nor will it stop fanboys from fanboying. You're dumb and weird
+--- 57979605
+>>57969291 (OP)
+Reminder
+https://youtu.be/-opSlCGLGQ4 [Embed]
+--- 57979733
+There’s a low-IQ understanding of tanks in this thread. If you look at tanks vs ATGMs in a vacuum you can see how the cost-benefit ratio won’t favor the tank. But, we live in the real world in which tanks are a critical piece of modern warfare doctrine, ie, combined arms, sensor-data fusion, maneuver, etc. Neither side in Ukraine is capable of modern warfare so you shouldn’t take lessons on modern warfare from this war.
+--- 57979743
+>>57979733
+>If you look at tanks vs ATGMs in a vacuum you can see how the cost-benefit ratio won’t favor the tank
+if the two of them fought in an empty void, the tank would just go around the ATGM because it has tracks and an engine
+--- 57979937
+>>57973973
+speak for yourself you hivemind nigger
+--- 57979967
+>>57969291 (OP)
+Why is it that every time I look at this tank I just see another 'modernized' T-72?
+--- 57979979
+>>57969350
+the only "enemy" that tank will ever fire at is a cardboard cutout on a range. Russia is a pathological liar of a nation, no other country lies more, not even chinka
+--- 57980022
+>>57979733
+>critical piece of modern warfare doctrine, ie, combined arms, sensor-data fusion, maneuver, etc.
+People can spin this as tanks getting carried by air support but even in that case they're still massively amplifying the effectiveness of those air strikes.
+--- 57980080
+>>57969291 (OP)
+>extra protection on their flanks
+Wood or ERA?
+--- 57980093
+Nooo! The parade is just around the corner! There will be only t34 left to show!
+--- 57980134
+>>57979544
+>literally can't even move
+Can't make this shit up.
+--- 57980148
+>>57979605
+I don't think the guy making the video is reliable and is he clearly making his own propaganda but when even a third of what he say is true, eh, I'm giddy with anticipation at seeing the Ukrainian army curbstomp everything Russian.
+It's really a shame Crimea will likely be too hard to retake.
+--- 57980176
+>>57979544
+Imagine the screaming.
+--- 57980234
+>>57980148
+All you needed to get out of it is that the Armata has a shit engine and laughably outdated optics and electronics. The shit engine is indisputable and literally broke down during it's debut in front of the eyes of the world. Then consider all the rest of what we've witnessed first hand in Ukraine and the absolute joke of Russian technology where they have to buy foreign electronics and cameras for their drones. Modern Russia cannot into tanks.
+--- 57980390
+>>57974779
+Nlaw locks and tracks a target to a point. You still have to be able to place your shot or the missille will blow up on a wrong part of your target.
+--- 57980391
+>>57975719
+It's the definition of souless anon, T.55 or the T.-90 look cooler.
+--- 57980461
+>>57969350
+--- 57980463
+>>57969581
+Unfortunately it appears that the PzF-3 supplies have been completly depleted by this point.
+
+However...
+--- 57980465
+>>57974962
+>>57975188
+>>57975275
+--- 57980476
+>>57980390
+It doesnt track the target, it guesstimates where the target should be based on his movement or lack of it.

k/57970019.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,174 @@
+-----
+--- 57970019
+lets say the martian colony wants independence in a 100 years.
+how would that war look like?
+What sensors and wepons are used in space battles?
+--- 57970034
+Cum
+--- 57970049
+>>57970019 (OP)
+Same as always, throwing big rocks at each other, but this time is asteroids
+--- 57970056
+>>57970019 (OP)
+Dude that's such an out of context problem for us right now, we know nothing about how that war would go because we know nothing about the resources, potential population or war making capacity of a notional colony. As for weapons and sensors, probably the same shit we use today. RADAR and EO/IR, cannons, autocannons and lasers
+--- 57970169
+>>57970019 (OP)
+Пpocтo дecaнтныe aтaки и aвиaнaлёты, нo c opбиты. 
+Или тyпoй cбpoc ядepнoгo opyжия
+--- 57970322
+>>57970019 (OP)
+like in planetary annihilation, lots of nukes
+--- 57970471
+Earth and Mars should be separate political entities to ensure humanity has two votes in space-UN.
+--- 57970747
+>>57970471
+seperatist traitor humanity must stand as one
+--- 57970757
+Wtf I didn’t know we had THAT many asteroids in the asteroid belt
+--- 57970962
+>>57970757
+And the distance between them is several thousand-million kilometers
+--- 57970967
+>>57970019 (OP)
+I don't know
+--- 57970992
+>>57970019 (OP)
+If they are self sustained, we'd probably allow. Maybe some butthurt and trade sanctions for earthly investments.
+
+Only real conflict would be if one wanted the othersresources. Then the type of resource would dictate conflict.
+--- 57971136
+You know….I wonder how an Earth-Mars financial market would function? Like, all the trading halts for a sync period of time every day?
+--- 57971147
+>>57971136
+They would simply be separate markets, you know, how like how every major country does currently
+--- 57971211
+>>57970019 (OP)
+It would be 100% a trade war. There's very little that they could do offensively that the Martians wouldn't already have prepared for as part of colonization.
+>throw a big asteroid at them!!
+1. short of a direct hit you're just gonna make a big dust storm. Nothing they're not used to
+2.good luck doing that quickly and covertly. yes you can move asteroids with a small probe but only either a) a very small amount or b) over a very long time. neither is invisible nor unreversable and the probes are defenceless
+--- 57971314
+>>57970019 (OP)
+Giant robots
+--- 57971324
+>>57970757
+Asteroid belts aren't like the ones you see in fiction, Any sort of action scene taking place in them would be far less exciting and lack the whole weaving narrowly between giant space rock moments.
+--- 57971360
+>>57970019 (OP)
+>we would like independence
+>okay, great! let us know if there's anything we can do to help with that
+Humanity will be past war in 100 years, inshallah.
+--- 57971451
+>>57971360
+not with jews still existing
+--- 57971479
+>>57970471
+Russian-tier legalistic trickery
+--- 57971627
+>>57970019 (OP)
+That game is autist as fuck but still was fun, did the dev ever fix the resolution issues?
+--- 57971733
+>>57971451
+Even Jews want peace, Baruch Hashem
+--- 57971788
+>>57970757
+you have no idea how huge and empty space is
+https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html
+--- 57972479
+>>57970757
+There's about a million asteroids over 1km in diameter in the belt, and about as many that size in Jupiter's lagrange points. Considering how much resources are in a single 1km asteroid, regardless of type, and it really hammers home how rich the solar system is by earth standards.
+--- 57972481
+>>57970019 (OP)
+100 years is a long time but not that long. we'll be lucky to have a million people there by then.
+>low population and few hostile countries able to make it to mars = few weapons being sent there = martians will have to make the weapons themselves
+the martians will be space africa tier
+--- 57972531
+>>57970019 (OP)
+>sensors
+dunno
+>weapons
+ma deuce like always
+--- 57972552
+>>57970019 (OP)
+>Operation Bri'ish
+--- 57972644
+>>57970019 (OP)
+>lets say the martian colony wants independence in a 100 years.
+
+Martian colony can launch stuff with mass drivers for cheap, Earth cannot do that. On Mars you only need to defend the colony site, on Earth you need to defend the whole place. Earth gets saturation bombarded and reduced to rubble. Why do you think the ultrarich dream of owning a personal fiefdom on Mars?
+
+This is why nobody will be allowed to colonize any place outside LEO anytime soon and by soon I mean next 150 years and if it ever happens space expansion will be under extremely tight internation control. You don’t give randos unlimited power of your life and death wiht no possibility of MAD scenario if you can help it.
+--- 57972741
+>>57972552
+Side 3 should have been destroyed at the end of the War.
+
+Japs don't care about war crimes, somehow think Zeon would have gotten off so lightly after killing off the majority of human on both Earth and space in a week.
+And people still would have been on their side so they could milk another hundred instalments and million model kits out of the franchise.
+--- 57972792
+>>57972741
+Zeon warcrimed like nobody has ever warcrimed before, I agree, but counterpoint: does the Earth Federation have any moral right to deny the Spacenoids' separatist movements?
+
+Gundam Unicorn discusses this somewhat more in-depth than one might expect of a shonen anime about BIG BATTLING BOTS
+--- 57972803
+>>57972741
+>the most unrealistic part of Gundam is the EFSF fleet didn't use Side 3 colonies as practices
+Titans did nothing wrong, G-Reco is the ultimate proof of that.
+--- 57972855
+>>57972792
+Gundam Unicorn is horseshit and a massive blight on the series. Retcons and newtype wank as far as the eye can see. Not to mention the protagonist is utter garbage.
+--- 57972882
+>>57972741
+If you're wrong in an argument but the other guy punches you in the face, the argument doesn't matter anymore
+--- 57972978
+>>57972855
+>Retcons and newtype wank
+what did they retcon?
+haven't they always wanked newtypes?
+>the protagonist is utter garbage
+vanilla shonen twat I thought
+--- 57974399
+Red rising a great book series for any of you interested in future space warfare
+--- 57976399
+>>57970019 (OP)
+Mars is far too hostile an environment to have any meaningful population in a hundred years.
+--- 57976858
+>>57971136
+>>57971147
+We had global markets even before mass communication.
+Earth-Mars is much harder than Earth-Moon mind, the main issue would be when they're on the opposite side of the sun. A couple of relays at some midway points could help. We'll figure something out either way I'm sure.
+--- 57977040
+>>57970019 (OP)
+After reading all of the low effort comments, I'm going to Chadpost.
+
+The realistically do this in a timely manner you need nuclear propulsion. The most efficient way is nuclear missiles launched from spacecraft. To make a serious dent into a planet you need to be in the Gigaton range. Thousands of times more powerful than the Tsar bomba. Lasers and railguns can be used to destroy enemy spacecraft. Gigaton nukes for fleets and starbases and planets. Laser batteries could probably also be used to defense against nuclear missiles. Then there's antimatter bombs and black hole generators, but I'm not sure we will have those in 100 years.
+--- 57977116
+>>57972479
+There are still more resources in the Earth itself, it's just way harder to dig super deep and find what you're looking for than it is to spot something in the sky and go to space
+--- 57977133
+>>57970169
+VEH
+--- 57977136
+>>57970019 (OP)
+They martians would never make it. They would need imports for the next 5k years.
+--- 57977163
+>>57970019 (OP)
+>What sensors and wepons are used in space battles?
+The future of war won't be any different than it was 10,000 years ago with man slinging rocks, however instead of slinging rocks at prey man will sling devastatingly large asteroids at each other.
+--- 57977173
+>>57971136
+By the time that's a relevant question, the stock market won't really exist in any meaningful way as a driver of financial activity, since AI will have solved the market by then and there will no longer be any way to make money through speculation. 
+
+It won't matter if there's several minutes of light lag to execute transactions, because you'll already know what that stock is going to be worth with 99.9% precision for any point in the next few years.
+--- 57977191
+>>57977173
+>you'll already know what that stock is going to be worth with 99.9% precision for any point in the next few years
+only if we invent a crystal ball
+--- 57978672
+>>57970757
+Well, it was a planet.
+--- 57978677
+>>57971314
+S'truth
+--- 57978688
+>>57972882
+Yes, but what if that was his lead before the argument even started?

k/57970089.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,154 @@
+-----
+--- 57970089
+Tactical may look cool but wood looks cooler.
+
+Post wood variations of your favorite weapons.
+
+Starting with the Kel-Tec RDB
+--- 57970875
+>>57970440
+I'm rock hard right now.
+--- 57971485
+>>57970440
+Everything but that railed-on carry handle is SEXO
+get fixed handle and I'd coom on her
+--- 57971559
+>>57970089 (OP)
+--- 57971670
+>>57970089 (OP)
+You should have done that wood finish with the cucked version since that one actually looks like a traditional hunting rifle.
+--- 57971834
+>>57970089 (OP)
+--- 57972287
+>>57971814
+>>57971559
+>>57970440
+hnnng need wood ar10
+--- 57972374
+ARBOREAL
+--- 57972445
+>>57972425
+I want to do something like this just for the novelty
+Too bad SCR lowers are way too fucking expensive for being just cucked versions of normal AR lowers
+--- 57972449
+>>57971834
+Keltec had every opportunity to be the coolest gun company in existence, but they failed
+--- 57972466
+>>57970089 (OP)
+Make way goyims
+--- 57972493
+>>57972445
+I wouldn't mind a .22 like this.
+--- 57972515
+>>57972507
+--- 57972578
+>>57972449
+they will never release the metal frame p15
+--- 57972592
+>>57972466
+>Paintball
+Try posting a real gun
+--- 57972623
+>>57972592
+U wan wood I pos wood
+--- 57972625
+>>57970440
+Huh so I'm not against modernization, I just violently hate plastic furniture. Why does hating one specific thing that denotes quality and universal worth sound familiar? Hmmmmmmm
+--- 57972637
+>>57970440
+I hate the stock shape on this
+--- 57973636
+>>57972449
+>>57971834
+The interesting thing is that this largely is what's going on underneath the polymer skin of the RDB. The RDB is primarily a steel skeleton with a polymer wrap.
+--- 57973694
+>>57972588
+that's actually relaly nice for a bubba'd SKS
+>>57971834
+10/10
+>>57971559
+10/10
+>>57970440
+6/10
+I don't like the grain pattern
+--- 57973832
+>>57971559
+I have this furniture (you can buy it at blackgunswood) but I can't find a retro-style rifle to put it on to save my life.
+--- 57973869
+>>57973832
+how's the quality feel on it? i've had my eye on that company myself but also lack a proper retro AR for it
+--- 57974320
+>>57973869
+Feels nice to me. I'm not one hundred percent sold on the pistol grip's form factor but I've got no complaints about the finish.
+--- 57974335
+>>57974320
+I would probably replace mine with hogue rubber myself but the handguards and stocks look great. glad to hear the quality is good. some wood feels cheap
+--- 57975235
+>>57972425
+Badass
+--- 57976454
+>>57970089 (OP)
+--- 57976470
+>>57976454
+--- 57976486
+>>57976470
+--- 57976512
+>>57976486
+Last one for now
+--- 57976520
+>>57976454
+>wood furniture M60
+HNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnng
+--- 57976841
+>>57972588
+I like it
+--- 57976942
+>>57972466
+>>57976841
+I meant I like this, the paintball one. Lots of pretty guns in this thread though.
+--- 57977174
+>>57972425
+My man, what are those sights and where can I get them?
+--- 57977508
+>>57977174
+https://www.lpasights.com/en/products/stb/
+Oh yeah, baby.
+Don't get the red ones.
+--- 57977568
+>>57972425
+Needs to be lever action
+--- 57977609
+My T48, English walnut furniture was finished by me with over a dozen coats pure tung oil and a wax on top of that.
+--- 57977640
+>>57977609
+I have to say I'm a big fan.
+I enjoyed watching your progress over the months.
+I'm hoping to get a wood stock and pistol grip within the next month.
+--- 57977774
+>>57977640
+FARTley clone
+--- 57977784
+>>57977774
+You fuckin' know it.
+--- 57978802
+Ordered some wood m-lok rail covers to hopefully balance this out
+--- 57978831
+Good ol’ wasr
+--- 57978944
+How could >>57978802 make his rifle look like >>57972425's rifle?
+--- 57978951
+>>57978831
+Is RS Regulate worth the cash?
+--- 57979003
+>>57978951
+Compared to everything else, absolutely. 
+AK optic mounts IMO just look like total ass , with the exception of RS Regulate. Has held zero, and I throw this in a bag / drop it , shoot it regularly. Would buy again if I get another AK.
+--- 57979022
+>>57979003
+Fuck. I need to find a good upper/lower mount deal.
+--- 57979452
+>>57978944
+Just put a wooden handguard on the upper.
+--- 57979480
+>>57979452
+The stocks are different. >>57972425's rifle has a stock that seems to be custom.

k/57970275.txt

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+-----
+--- 57970275
+What the fuck does this even mean? Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
+--- 57970288
+>>57970275 (OP)
+The don't get rotated. There are multiple accounts of people sitting in trenches for months without rotation. Although the article is probably a dumb click bait
+--- 57970300
+I imagine getting shelled and droned for weeks would have this type of effect
+--- 57970307
+Good.
+It's time for western boomers to give more weapons.
+--- 57970314
+You could just go to the ISW page instead of posting some news headline
+
+>Russian forces have failed to make meaningful advances in Luhansk Oblast in 2023, despite the heavy commitment of elements of at least three armies of two military districts, elements of two VDV divisions, and the support of numerous irregular formations. The forces that have been fighting along this line for at the better part of four months are likely exhausted and substantially degraded. They have continued to attack, have not rotated to rest and refit, and do not appear to have prepared themselves to receive a Ukrainian offensive.
+
+>The pattern of Russian deployments throughout Ukraine strongly suggests that most of the available maneuver elements of all military districts, as well as major surviving Airborne forces, are already committed to either active offensive or defensive operations in Ukraine. Russia will need to commit significant reserves to any discrete axis in order to conduct effective offensive operations, and the generally exhausted condition of troops and the apparently disorganized and fragmented deployment pattern in some areas will likely pose significant obstacles to Russia’s prospects for defending critical sectors of the frontline.
+--- 57970316
+>>57970275 (OP)
+What if you're constantly cold? What if your supply lines are fucked? What if your comms are fucked? What if you can't protect yourself from the damp? What if drones are always threatening you, and it doesn't matter if you are at the front line for behind moscow there's drones?
+--- 57970326
+>>57970275 (OP)
+You are there, always paranoid about those flying hohol machines ready to ruin your day anon. It's stressful
+--- 57970332
+>>57970275 (OP)
+Yeah now do this with such little sleep you start hallucinating, which is around the 50hr mark, i've been there and it's fucking horrible
+--- 57970348
+>spend weeks or months living in a muddy trench 
+>last time you had a non-MRE meal was...you can't remember 
+>every day or so some fellow mobnik gets blown apart by a drone grenade
+>average period of uninterrupted sleep in an hour
+>try and check internet to distract self from your life
+>see this
+>"why can't these soldiers perform an effective offensive?"
+--- 57970361
+>>57970332
+--- 57970364
+>it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and...ACK!!!
+--- 57970369
+>>57970275 (OP)
+It means Jon Jackson sucks at writing propaganda.
+--- 57970376
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
+
+Midwit take, if not outright stupid. Defending doesn't always mean you're sitting in the same trench the whole time. Sometimes the attackers come from a different angle or use a different tactic and so you have to shift everything to effectively defend.
+--- 57970383
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
+
+Yeah.
+
+https://youtu.be/PF5pY-ptbd0 [Embed]
+--- 57970389
+>>57970364
+You know what, after seeing the 1000th drone drop video i wonder why dont they put chicken wire above their trenches
+--- 57970397
+It would stop vog grenades from fusing and prevent normal ones from rolling into foxholes
+--- 57970412
+>>57970275 (OP)
+You see, when left untreated, HIV can cause you to go into full blown AIDS. Coincidentally enough, fatigue is a common symptom.
+--- 57970415
+>>57970275 (OP)
+If Russia hasn't been rotating their forces and the soldiers are mentally/emotionally spent, they may just flee once shit starts going bad.
+--- 57970418
+>>57970275 (OP)
+You should watch the WW1 documentary “They Shall Not Grow Old” and educate yourself about what life in trenches is like. Even guys who said they enjoyed the war said they were tired of it by the end and just wanted it to be over, some even said they didn’t are who won anymore just as long as it ended.
+--- 57970422
+Attacks can happen once every 24 hours, give or take 24. If you want to shoot at approaching targets you need to be paying attention.
+--- 57970423
+>>57970389
+I guess it wont help anyway, since it's too flismy and what makes drones dangerous are the shrapnel
+--- 57970432
+>>57970418
+>didn’t *care*
+--- 57970449
+>>57970275 (OP)
+[X] to doubt. I hate journalists so fucking much.
+--- 57970451
+>>57970389
+Chicken wire doesn't stop shrapnel
+--- 57970456
+>>57970389
+>put chickenwire above your trench
+>eliminate the slight chance of getting our battlebuddy's body to protect you from shrapnels coming from the side, as now grenades explode a meter above all of you, spraying your heads with shrapnels
+You know what? I think they should totally start putting chicken wire above their trenches, anon
+--- 57970461
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
+But in modern warfare you can not generally defend against a mechanized enemy simply by trying to hold trenches, because a proper enemy concentration can and will simply grind its way through them and break into your rear, where there's too much open space for trenches and then they're free to wreak havoc wherever they want. Only built up areas really allow you to "sit" and hold against an enemy.
+In the field, you need mobile troops to avoid their spearhead and its destructive artillery fires and air bombardments. You need mobile reserves on every level to actively defend against enemy advances, attrit them along their entire line of advance, and strike decisive counterattacks at their weak points, in their rear, in their flank, against their supply routes. All of this also generally requires you to cede a bunch of land in exchange to fight the enemy in-depth. Russia has very severely weakened their abilities to perform all of this with their failed offensives around Bakhmut and Vuhledar.
+--- 57970463
+>>57970389
+Would be very generous of the vatnigs to turn ukie nades into airburst munitions for them
+--- 57970474
+>>57970449
+--- 57970483
+>>57970456
+Overhead cover + chicken wire. Put chicken wire on top of the entrance to your fighting position, so grenades can't explode right outside the entrance even if they're timed to do so.
+--- 57970496
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
+That video of that Ukie squad holding off the Russians assaulting their position didn't look calm or low energy. Not to mention, when a fucking entire armor/mechanized infantry company hits your position, it's probably not going to be enough to just launch a couple of ATMs and call it good.
+
+Beep beep, motherfucker. Manuever warfare means it's time to manuever.
+--- 57970498
+>>57970361
+Bullshit. I've done allnighters (30h or so) regularly during univeristy studies. Longest I've been through was something over 50h and I was far from hallucinating.
+Visual distortions at 24h is complete nonsesne.
+The "bursts of euphoria and depression" part is true tough.
+--- 57970538
+>>57970496
+Of course.
+But the actual problem is that this isn't some boots on the ground warzone investigative journalist interviewing combatants about their condition.
+This is some tranny sitting in a starbucks gargling a semen latte slapping away at his macbook "I BET RUSSIANS ARE... LE TIRED!"
+It would be just as gay and retarded if he were doing the same shtick about Ukraine.
+--- 57970594
+>>57970361
+So all you need to do is survive past 190h mark?
+--- 57970603
+>>57970361
+>>57970498
+Did past 90 hours once, for no good reason at all and will never ever do that again in my life if I can help it. Visual stuff didn't start for a while, but past 48 I was tripping balls, no drugs involved. 
+I was like 16 at the time, at a weekend LARP event(costumes and foam swords kind) and decided I was just not gonna sleep the whole time. I was fucked up for like a solid couple weeks after.
+--- 57970607
+>>57970364
+>be Russian CHAD
+>grenade lands next to you
+>don't give a fuck
+>it blows up
+>don't give a fuck
+>go fuck some hohol whores later
+--- 57970609
+>>57970594
+yes, then you never have to sleep again
+most people don't know about that life hack
+--- 57970612
+>>57970498
+>Visual distortions at 24h is complete nonsesne.
+actual bullshit. are you seriously trying to say you've never seen shit pop in or out of the corner of your vision, patterns like on bathroom tiles becoming weird, etc?
+
+read the fucking chart. the shit you're talking about is pinpointed at 53-192 hours.
+--- 57970620
+>>57970594
+I guy once stayed up for a an entire week as part of a radio show stunt and by the end of it he was completely irreversibly insane. I think he either died shortly after from mental-stress related health problems or he killed himself, I forget which. But he was like a totally ordinary radio guy and then a week of no sleep later and his brain is literally actually destroyed.
+--- 57970643
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
+OK, now do it only eating once a day, while cold/wet, bored, constantly shelled, after seeing a friend turned to hamburger by a drone, no pay, you've been raped, etc.
+--- 57970660
+>>57970361
+Damn, that sounds awesome. Got to try that sometime.
+Most I've been up was around 2 days and I only got this sort of darkness on the peripheral vision.
+--- 57970666
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
+it takes a lot of effort you retard
+--- 57970693
+>>57970361
+>>57970498
+>>57970594
+>>57970603
+>>57970612
+>>57970620
+
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Gardner_sleep_deprivation_experiment
+--- 57970769
+>>57970415
+>they may just flee once shit starts going bad.
+I can't wait to see what "starts going bad" means for Russia at this point if we haven't seen it yet.
+--- 57970785
+>>57970483
+>build tactical chicken coop
+>check-mate atheists, berlin by christmas
+--- 57970832
+>>57970612
+>patterns like on bathroom tiles becoming weird, etc
+I certainly don't remeber it so if I did see it it wasn't disturbing.
+--- 57970852
+>>57970275 (OP)
+ISW said no such thing. fucking clicbait journo bullshit
+--- 57970864
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
+can't sleep
+constantly paranoid about artillery and drones
+Snipers
+Trench invasions 
+Rockets, I'm surprised we haven't seen shell shock
+--- 57970872
+>>57970275 (OP)
+You know what this mean right?
+We're gonna TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO post!
+--- 57970888
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>ISW says
+Oy vey
+--- 57970890
+>>57970275 (OP)
+We talked about this before.
+
+Do you know why the 155th got to eat shit and die several times over in Vuhledar? You remember. To the point where they were just shoving in people fresh from ""training"" into it? It isn't because there were no other troop concentrations in the area to pull from. There were plenty. And they were actually (allegedly) trained and experienced. So why were they not utilized in such a high-value operation?
+
+Because they began threatening violence against their officers should they be forced forward. We know that to be the case from intercepts in the area that were collected during the Vuhledar Catastrophe earlier in the year. 
+
+Now, in the past these sorts of disagreements were delicately manged by the RU MoD by splitting off and isolating "energetic elements" from the wider troop population in-theater and shoving them in a cage or a pit or something. Well, some vatniks are smarter than others and didn't allow that to happen. 
+
+Essentially, Russia is only able to conduct offensive operations with soldiers who can be coerced and cowed into doing so. This in turn means the defensive lines with all those magnificent dragons teeth are being largely held by soldiers who cannot be trusted to reliably carry out orders to leave their FOB and strike Ukrainians. 
+
+Does that sound like a recipe for a coherent defense? We haven't even talked about logistical issues and the fact that every aspect of the Russian military from equipment to training to officer corps to fuel supplies etc have worsened considerably over time.
+
+I think you'd be "exhausted" too.
+--- 57970892
+non clickbait link
+
+https://kyivindependent.com/isw-exhausted-troops-disorganized-deployment-will-likely-hinder-russias-prospects-of-holding-critical-frontline-areas-in-ukraine/
+--- 57970893
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
+ever been in a serious fight? remember how throwing a basic punch suddenly made you feel like your arms are made of lead? or how wrestling a guy intent on really harming you for 30 seconds was way more draining than digging a hole for an hour? everything becomes much more difficult when you're in a violent struggle with other people. especially when there's thousands of opponents with a hundred different ways to kill you (and most of which you can't even notice before it's too late, let alone defend against.) having stress hormones pump through your veins for months on end will drain you psychologically and it will also start to affect your physically; on top of the cold, hunger, sleep deprivation, filth and - paradoxically enough - boredom. so yeah: "just sitting in a trench and shooting at attackers" is one of the most draining thing you can put a human through.
+--- 57970944
+based armchair general
+nigga just sit in a trench, but remember a drone can drop a grenade on your head at any moment
+--- 57970957
+>>57970348
+>Urawr
+My sides
+--- 57970960
+>>57970275 (OP)
+Meanwhile faggot OP probably has a mental breakdown if asked to work the weekend
+--- 57970985
+>>57970607
+portraying putin as an alpha chad will never not be not funny.
+--- 57970995
+>>57970693
+--- 57971031
+>>57970361
+>>57970498
+I've pulled all nighters too and I started getting visual halluciations around the evening of the second day, so probably around 34 hours in. Although it was mostly tame shit, like looking at a tree in the distance and seeing it move etc
+--- 57971041
+>>57970620
+Yeah that's Peter Tripp. He stayed up a week, started to hallucinate and at the end of his stunt, he thought that he's a complex imposter of Peter Tripp, not Peter Tripp himself. He didn't kys himself though and recovered from his delusions.
+--- 57971060
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>Kyiv Independent
+>Source: ISW
+Its all so tiring
+--- 57971096
+>>57971060
+you know what to do, it makes all the tiredness disappear
+--- 57971128
+I hate that ISW has basically become rumors from Twitter with the occasional British intelligence briefing summary. At the start of the war, when big things were happening, they actually provided quality analysis. Now they just seem bored and tired.
+--- 57971139
+>>57970275 (OP)
+Situation now: Barrier troops exist so mobiks don't flee/reatreat
+Situation then: Barrier troops flee on sign of Panzers.
+--- 57971142
+>>57971128
+Like, this is an example of one of their most recent articles: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-24-2023
+>Russian milbloggers speculated that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered additional military command changes on April 20. A prominent Russian milblogger claimed that Putin signed a decree on April 20 about a series of military command changes and formally dismissed Commander of the Eastern Military District Colonel General Rustam Muradov.
+It's speculation based on second hand accounts based on who knows
+--- 57971155
+>>57971060
+why do normies with dog avatars make you mad?
+--- 57971202
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>What the fuck does this even mean? Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
+They have no food ammunition or fuel for vehicles and heaters/cookers/drying. This is caused by a catastrophic collapse in Russian logistics on the last leg to the front which is caused by chronic vehicle shortages and deliberate targeting of such Russian logistical vehicles and units by Ukrainian partisans. There are also actual resource shortages, ranging from weapons to ammunition. By the way, /k/ predicted this as reaching crisis point all along the Russian front in the first week of may which I personally am impressed by. Does anyone have that chart that was [posted of Russia losses in logistic vehicles and tankers with the predictive trend line?
+--- 57971219
+>>57971155
+
+Because they are vatniks with a different color. They act the same, they look the same, they speak the same but just have a different color.
+--- 57971243
+>>57971202
+--- 57971250
+Toilets are very heavy now imagine carrying one all the way back to Russia
+--- 57971252
+>>57971219
+The normies wish death upon ziggers? Sounds based.
+--- 57971257
+>>57970890
+>Does that sound like a recipe for a coherent defense?
+It worked just fine for France in 1917-18.
+--- 57971283
+>>57970275 (OP)
+https://twitter.com/spacecowboy3331/status/1648177779236560901
+--- 57971284
+>>57971202
+>. By the way, /k/ predicted this as reaching crisis point all along the Russian front in the first week of may which I personally am impressed by.
+--- 57971352
+>>57971202
+--- 57971372
+>>57971202
+Found it
+--- 57971388
+>>57970607
+is that how putin sees himself?
+--- 57971415
+>>57971372
+They are actually suffering very high losses of this type right now. 23 yesterday, 31 today. However that chart only shows the effect *beginning* in the first weeks of may. It might take until the end of may before you actually see units routing without combat due to hunger
+--- 57971441
+>>57971388
+--- 57971486
+ISW themselves have started to get pissed off at the use of their information.
+
+https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/isw-policy-regarding-coverage-announced-upcoming-ukrainian-counter-offensive-operations
+--- 57971509
+>>57971060
+What's incorrect about ISW's assessment?
+--- 57971568
+>>57971486
+>ISW themselves have started to get pissed off at the use of their information.
+Maybe /k. should be pissed off at ISW for copying /k/s homework?
+>>57971372
+--- 57971586
+>>57970275 (OP)
+it's the kind of tired that sleep won't fix...
+--- 57971624
+I know I'm not the first to think this, I'm just repeating others because I believe it too, but I think if this war gets any worse then Putin will actually back off so he can look like the "bigger man" in seeking peace. But the actual reason he'll be doing it is so that he can create his own stab-in-the-back myth for Russia, and the people he's gonna zero in on to blame is Wagner since there's already a lot of animosity between them and the regular army. So if the war ends with a Russian pullout, and then within the next year we get footage on Russian tv with the Wagner HQ being raided by the government for mass arrests and special attention from the cameras being focused on all the opulence that is being confiscated from the building, then you'll know the scenario I put forth is what's happening.
+--- 57971656
+>>57971624
+>I know I'm not the first to think this, I'm just repeating others because I believe it too, but I think if this war gets any worse then Putin will actually back off so he can look like the "bigger man" in seeking peace
+On April 18th, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman warned America's NATO allies that they needed to keep a watchful eye on Russia for signs of nuclear weapons use. A warning from Deputy Secretary Sherman
+"We have all watched and worried that Vladimir Putin would use what he considers a non-strategic tactical nuclear weapon or use some demonstration effect to escalate, but in a managed risk escalation,” Deputy Secretary Sherman said. Nuclear weapons in Belarus
+"It is very critical to remain watchful of this,” Sherman added
+--- 57971686
+>>57971656
+I don't think he's gonna do it because we made it clear in our meetings with Putin that we know where Putin is at all times so if he uses a nuke then we won't nuke Moscow, we will nuke him specifically at his exact location.
+--- 57971759
+>>57970275 (OP)
+You ever try to do double night shifts with zero sleep
+--- 57971761
+>>57971686
+Oh I'm not bothered about seeing Russia and Putin vanish in a self inflicted nuclear detonation either way. I would not give a fuck for utterances from the kremlin either put I will pay attention to the secretary of state. The escalate to deescalate patrushev doctrine was always pants on head retarded and going to get Moscow irradiated. It one of the many many problems Russia has, a complete decline in the quality, ability and intelligence of leadership and policy formation. Russia has already lost this war, if it wants to get irradiated as well that's fine too. Its been quite clear from the moement the Russians stole experimental and very particular isotopes from the Chernobyl labs and then started fucking with the staff at Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Station that they were up to their single digit IQ point fuckwittery. Modern Russian leadership is as if someone interviewed for supervillians in a special needs bus
+--- 57971783
+>>57971761
+--- 57971806
+>>57971509
+>What's incorrect about ISW's assessment?
+Nothing.
+--- 57971833
+>>57971624
+Here's a better deal. Putin dies and the Russian military withdraw and everyone is polite again.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKnlo7sLfa0 [Embed]
+--- 57971841
+>Too exhausted
+
+They're sitting in cumpits, starving and beaten to shit or infected with HIV
+--- 57972104
+>>57971686
+Stop making shit up Peter
+--- 57972115
+>>57971833
+I just don't see him dying, I see it ending in him using it as an excuse to purge anyone still around that can act as a rival to him. It's such an easy "YOU cost us the war!" justification and Putin is popular enough in Russia to get away with it.
+--- 57972200
+>>57970275 (OP)
+Imagine living at your job site for months with no end in sight
+--- 57972282
+>>57970612
+>>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
+>But in modern warfare you can not generally defend against a mechanized enemy simply by trying to hold trenches, because a proper enemy concentration can and will simply grind its way through them and break into your rear, where there's too much open space for trenches and then they're free to wreak havoc wherever they want. Only built up areas really allow you to "sit" and hold against an enemy.
+>In the field, you need mobile troops to avoid their spearhead and its destructive artillery fires and air bombardments. You need mobile reserves on every level to actively defend against enemy advances, attrit them along their entire line of advance, and strike decisive counterattacks at their weak points, in their rear, in their flank, against their supply routes. All of this also generally requires you to cede a bunch of land in exchange to fight the enemy in-depth. Russia has very severely weakened their abilities to perform all of this with their failed offensives around Bakhmut and Vuhledar.
+At 24 hours I had sudden burst of involuntary movement and flinching when trying to sleep. Also my eyes felt weird, like they didn't appropriately "turn off" when trying to sleep
+
+Walking down the streeet was a goddamned trip. Your peripherical vision's shot. You just can't remember what you see that's you are not looking right at.
+--- 57972417
+>>57970275 (OP)
+You're far better off reading RUSI reports rather than whatever crap ISW publishes
+--- 57972462
+>>57971841
+>HIV from flu inoculation
+... are they reusing needles? I mean of course they are, I don't even know why I'm surprised, but fucking hell.
+--- 57972718
+>>57972462
+Of course they are.
+
+How the fuck did we ever think Russia was anything but a third world country?
+--- 57972784
+>>57972462
+> Anon who didn't see the vatnig field hospital photos
+--- 57972866
+>>57970498
+>Bullshit.
+So you're saying both my first-hand experience and the national library of medication is wrong, what are your credentials?
+
+https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6048360/
+--- 57972874
+>>57970474
+Anon I quite literally get angry when I have to hear adverts and news coverage when around other people's houses. Not that I'm delusional or anything it's just the only things they seem to give a fuck about is antisemitism and racism.
+
+I think I hate (((them))) enough already.
+--- 57972878
+>>57970538
+The amount of projection in this post is wild.
+--- 57972891
+>>57971031
+Yeah your brain starts to play tricks on you, it's like your eyes can see X but the brain has a hard time deciphering what it is and just makes stuff up, it's bizzarre, sleep deprivation is no joke
+--- 57972894
+>>57972462
+In soviet russia, it is Our needle
+--- 57972907
+>>57971219
+>false equivalence
+Russia can leave Ukraine at any time
+--- 57972911
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>ISW
+honestly, not even going to respond. do better.
+--- 57972919
+>>57972462
+Anon please it's not just any needle. It's The People's Needle!
+--- 57972923
+>>57972911
+victory by forfeit
+--- 57972934
+>>57970275 (OP)
+Drinking is taxing activity.
+--- 57972945
+>>57971060
+>It’s all so tiring 
+Then kys kike nobody ever invited you and literally nobody will care when you’re dead
+--- 57972985
+>>57972462
+Just drop the needles in alcohol retard, cleans them easy peasy.
+
+The elites don't want you to know this but the needles at the park are free, you can take them home
+I have 458 needles.
+--- 57973024
+>>57972985
+70% ethanol is good but it isn't foolproof. 10% bleach wash is the only thing I'd consider acceptable outside of an autoclave
+--- 57973050
+>>57972985
+>>57973024
+Reminder to retards. Fun though this tardb8 is. Do not do this. alcohol/Ethanol and even boiling does not kill evrything(and most modern stuff is not even able to be boiled for half an hour anyway). Sterilisation is not easy. Do not give yourself sepsis.
+--- 57973054
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>bro just live in a badly dug trench without proper shelter or gear, infrequent resupply, in constant fear of a shell or drone killing you bro lmao
+>what do you mean you haven’t been sleeping well?
+--- 57973059
+>>57972923
+you never had the qualifications to offer a challenge
+--- 57973061
+>>57970607
+>be Russian CHAD
+>grenade lands next to you
+>don't give a fuck
+>it blows up
+>die
+Still better than going back to Russia.
+--- 57973067
+>>57973050
+Bless you anon
+I’d post the image of Pepe caressing you with a palm leaf but I’m a phoneposting faggot rn
+--- 57973084
+>>57973061
+If only he had time to light a cig, smoke it, do a middle finger salute to his comrades, then get blown up.
+--- 57973157
+>>57972985
+Nice - feel like I should post this for the unaware anons
+--- 57973220
+>>57973050
+What survives a 10% bleach wash for an hour? I was under the impression it was pretty broad spectrum
+
+https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK214356/
+
+Also, note to the unaware, do not mix alcohol and bleach, if you're doing sterilization. Bad Stuff happens
+--- 57973230
+>>57970275 (OP)
+If sitting in your trench and shooting is your idea of defending in 2023 it's all over for you.
+--- 57973246
+>>57970389
+>turn a simple nade into an airburst machine of death
+Sasuga.
+--- 57973256
+>>57970348
+I hope that poster got throughly yiffed on their way to urawring
+--- 57973288
+>>57970890
+>I think you'd be "exhausted" too.
+even the vodka teeth are exhausted
+--- 57973303
+>>57971841
+Source: my quivering asshole
+--- 57973311
+>>57972462
+its cheap and you can pocket the cash sent for new needles. I bet they cope by pouring disinfectant over the needles saying its now sterile and safe
+--- 57973353
+>>57973278
+>whatever the West says negatively about Russia is projection and actually refers to themselves
+--- 57973395
+>>57973353
+I hate these lying fucks so fucking much it's unreal
+They just had to sit the fuck down and get billions of dollars richer every year by selling us gas
+What the fuck is wrong with them
+--- 57973427
+>>57970498
+Have you also done all-nighters with bullets and artillery flying over your head, hotshot?
+--- 57973484
+>>57973395
+Are we still pretending they attacked for no reason? Not even Ukrainians believe that
+--- 57973488
+>>57973427
+Have you done an all nighter with a 10” BBC? You don’t know shit big talker.
+--- 57973514
+>>57973484
+I'm not pretending anything
+I hate them like you wouldn't believe
+--- 57973605
+>>57970275 (OP)
+Being Russian is tiresome in general
+--- 57973619
+>>57970275 (OP)
+You've never dug a trench or gotten shot at in your whole life fatass.
+--- 57973622
+>>57973488
+immediate seethe
+--- 57973637
+>>57970364
+Guy doesn't even flinch, keeps smoking
+He was done couple of weeks ago
+--- 57973655
+>>57973484
+We know the true reasons. They told them openly when they though they were going to win, before being btfo from Kyiv.
+And they still do shit like this:
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMECmLXXPrs [Embed]
+--- 57973700
+During WW2, in southeast Asia, an American commander had to assess the troops remaining under his command for a coming Japanese push. He considered any man that was capable of walking 100 yards without having to stop for a rest as battle-ready. Because that was all he had.
+--- 57973703
+>>57970275 (OP)
+Getting your ass kicked by your smaller neighbor takes a lot out of you. Without vodka to motivate the Russian consript what point is there to do anything?
+--- 57973727
+>>57973637
+Hes asleep, that's his breath making those clouds.
+--- 57973744
+>>57970498
+Visual distortions doesn't mean hallucinations. It means things not being in quite the correct shape. Straight lines on tiled walls will start to seem wavy.
+
+This starts to happen after 24 hours and particularly after 36.
+--- 57973796
+>>57973729
+>its pilpul from western media. just ignore it.
+>all they do is spread bullshit all day.
+--- 57973829
+>>57971372
+That fit is a joke.
+--- 57973953
+>>57970275 (OP)
+>What the fuck does this even mean?
+It means not getting rotated, with little to no resupplies, terrible conditions, and constant drone bombing/shelling, not counting the lack of manpower meaning you have to overexert yourself to cover the same area as more than one person.
+--- 57973979
+>>57970890
+Hohol hopes and dreams.
+--- 57973989
+>>57970275 (OP)
+it's called combat fatigue, people get it when they're in combat.
+--- 57974040
+>>57973246
+I think the idea would be to pitch it in the middle, so the grenades bounce away from the foxhole. 
+But I suspect any sort of covering would prevent the vatniks from exiting the hole during other, maybe more common attacks, or reduce their view too much
+--- 57974063
+>>57970275 (OP)
+OP thinks it's as hard to stand watch in a trench as sitting on his balcony watching little girls pass by.
+
+Think, moron.
+>cold
+>rain season makes everything wet, mud up to your ankles, no such thing as a clean space
+>no rotation in half a year, no ability to rest properly 
+>constant drone and arty attacks or just harassment to enhance mental and physical exhaustion
+>fuck knows when or if you get supplies
+
+Sure sounds peachy, doesn't it?
+--- 57974064
+>>57971388
+Unironically yes
+--- 57974091
+>>57971841
+--- 57974109
+>>57972462
+Maybe but they vatnik almost certainly got his AIDS from buttrape
+--- 57974164
+>>57971415
+Depends on how much individual formations/areas maintain stocks desu. If I were to guess, not much. Not a dary or two, but less than a month.
+--- 57974234
+>>57973488
+No, but your mom and dad have.
+--- 57974242
+>>57973796
+I'm trans btw
+--- 57974478
+>>57972894
+Kek.
+--- 57974486
+>>57971388
+--- 57974516
+The political will does not exist.
+
+Are these conscripts? Prisoners?
+
+Remember Putin fired all those generals for insubordination.
+
+They are trying to force and prolong this Christian brother war as long as possible for dirty money and selfish geopolitical ambitions.
+--- 57974907
+>>57970275 (OP)
+You can only take so much shelling, wet and cold before you're basically worthless as a combatant, this is why reserves are important and rotating units out of the frontlines as regularly as possible. For Russia it isn't really.
+--- 57975014
+>>57972874
+>I quite literally get angry when I have to hear adverts and news coverage
+What is is like to be so weak minded that mere words can hurt you?
+--- 57975094
+>>57970275 (OP)
+It's like Germans at Verdun
+
+French soldiers only stayed 4 to 5 days on the frontline before getting rotated, germans (being subhumans) stayed in their rotten trenches till they died.
+If you dont rotate your soldiers and give them appropriate moral support they wont be able to fight.
+
+
+Hence unlike the myh propagated by Von Manstein, germans got bled completely dry by attacking constantly instead of the french, just like Russians got bled completely dry unlike what Prigozhin says.
+--- 57975308
+>>57973395
+>MUH EMPIRE
+Also a heavy dose of westerners being absolute child like fucking idiots when dealing with unhinged asiatics like vatniks and wumao trash. Taking anything coming out of their mouth for face value for example
+--- 57975416
+>>57970326
+Are they not allowed to shoot drones to save bullets?
+--- 57976698
+>>57975416
+Drones are hard to shoot and you need to adjust your sights when firing at a high angle.
+--- 57976820
+>>57970498
+Are you seriously comparing a college all nighter to being kept awake for 2-3 days while being shelled and shot at?
+--- 57976825
+>>57970890
+Ukrainian facts and reality.
+--- 57976898
+>>57972462
+Reusable needles are a thing, though generally they're ran through an autoclave after each use so as to avoid giving your patient's super aids. A notable controversy in USSR medical facilities was the lack of sterilization of reusable needles, leading to many outbreaks.
+--- 57976917
+>>57975416
+They do shoot them, it's just that they have to spot them first. Most drone losses are from EW or some lucky noooticer finding them flying overhead and getting his buddies to fire wildly at them with AKs.
+--- 57976978
+>>57970389
+sloping tin roofs would be better
+--- 57976998
+>>57970275 (OP)
+so in other words...ukraine is too exhausted to take territory from an "exhausted" russia and the (((counteroffensive))) is a myth
+--- 57977087
+>>57976998
+>mud that goes up to your dick
+>yeah just attack with your tanks and mechanized infantry bro
+--- 57977247
+>>57970326
+>You are there, always paranoid about those flying hohol machines ready to ruin your day anon. It's stressful
+It occurs to me a lot of them may flat out be deafened. You almost never see earpro on any of those conscriptovich fuckers, even the artillery ones just like, put their hands over their ears sometimes. Permanent hearing loss everywhere. They probably literally can't hear the drones overhead. Orders have to be screamed at them to be above a whisper.
+
+There's all this non-visible stuff that never ever gets any attention. It's not like any of these fags are robots, they're still humans, 140+dB is gonna fuck their ears same as anyone else.
+--- 57977324
+>>57977247
+the drones are 100m+ in the air, i'm not sure if you could hear them well, given the ambience of war
+--- 57977374
+>>57977324
+>the drones are 100m+ in the air
+You can hear typical drones from like, 5x that easy. I've heard them on a ferry over windy ocean. They're not quiet, and they're super, super distinct sound.
+
+I mean, it's not like it's a jet engine, but last time one was around everyone was looking for it even without knowing what it was well before it came over the tree line, the noise was there.
+>i'm not sure if you could hear them well, given the ambience of war
+A lot of war is dead silent. Maybe shots off in the distance, but of the endless drone videos we've seen now plenty are clearly not in the hot area of action, hence all the sleeping and so on. They aren't actively being shelled or having HMG sprayed at them right at that moment.
+--- 57977400
+>>57970275 (OP)
+heem sleepy
+--- 57977407
+>>57973303
+>Source: my quivering asshole
+It is an acknowledged expert on the infection and symptoms of HIV so i gues I can accept it as a primary source.
+--- 57977532
+>>57977247
+Never forget Russian ear pros were issued last year during the first call up.
+--- 57977570
+>>57977532
+works just as well as what america used to give their troops whats the problem?
+--- 57977581
+>>57977400
+i hate americans so god damn much, even if it's fake
+--- 57977659
+>>57971219
+Color is important
+--- 57977671
+>>57973829
+Looks good to me, r squared says so.
+
+t. Biochemist
+--- 57977685
+>>57970275 (OP)
+> ISW 
+
+Do these morons even pay taxes to make their propaganda or are it just a couple of interns?
+--- 57977732
+>>57977685
+let me guess, something Victoria Nuland and biolabs?
+--- 57978046
+>>57970361
+38 hours during aerospace engineering finals at university, even the softest sounds like a muffled door closing down the hall started sounding REALLY close and distorting into someone whispering my name in my ear. No visual hallucinations but after I started getting my name whispered I pussied out
+--- 57978489
+I keep seeing people say that the Russians don't rotate their troops. Would this be because they've got all their men committed to the frontline and they lack the spare capacity to properly handle troop rotation?
+
+If all the men are committed to the front to such an extreme that they can't rotate troops, would they be stupid/desperate enough to have committed their reserves as well? Do they even have any reserves? Surely that would mean any holes punched in the front by UAF would instantly become unstoppable floods as the vatnigs would totally lack the capacity to respond adequately or quickly
+
+Russia is fucked, isn't it?
+--- 57978517
+>>57970326
+now THESE are man made horrors beyond my comprehension
+--- 57978530
+>>57970985
+Can you talk normal bitchtits?
+--- 57978551
+>>57977685
+>a couple interns do better intel in 15 minutes than the second army of the world does in a war
+Idk anon what do you think?
+
+>>57978489
+Concentrating troops is hard because of HIMARS and logistics, so they have to trickle them in, and moving them out is almost unthinkable in that meta. 
+
+The Russians probably don't have reserves in the western sense. They have garrison troops with T55s in the occupied territories and recruiters to pressgang mobiks but not a cohesive high-speed unit ready to move around.
+--- 57978620
+>>57977532
+this has to be a joke, /k/ pre-2022 couldn't have come up with earpro that shit even as a joke
+--- 57978627
+>>57973157
+Faggot
+--- 57978692
+>>57973637
+I think that's just his breath, but he and his buddy were either snoozing when it dropped or already injured and too stunned/exhausted to even move.
+--- 57978699
+>>57973024
+Ethylene oxide is a safe and common household chemical, and a wonderful disinfectant.
+--- 57978758
+>>57978699
+>Ethylene oxide is safe
+--- 57978780
+>>57973050
+I'm pretty sure asepsis is guaranteed and even sterility would be achievable through a detergent/bleach wash to remove gross biological matter followed by boiling in water then being baked in a commercial oven at 70+ celcius for a few hours.
+--- 57978820
+>Don't get rotated
+>Have to listen to constant shelling
+>Your commander will shoot you if you sleep on duty
+>You're always on duty
+>Why are they exhausted?
+--- 57978917
+>>57970275 (OP)
+just shut up and trust the jews would you
+--- 57978953
+>>57970275 (OP)
+
+Spastics like OP who have never left their bedroom and camped outside for weeks know how tiring dirty and draining it is, plus under fire and drone attacks periodically, plus legendary Russian hygiene, cuisine and care for soldiers
+--- 57978975
+>>57973395
+A harsh truth of human nature is that the kind of person who makes (or steals) a fortune is almost always the kind of person who's pathologically insatiable. And the desire for money isn't just for its own sake, but directly linked to the lust for power. For Putin and the Russian elite, seizing Ukraine's resources was not only a step to net them billions of dollars, but to gain the authority to rival the US and command lesser countries to GIVE them billions more. And they would've taken another, and still another, if not for their feet getting blown off.
+--- 57979087
+>>57970314
+>They have continued to attack, have not rotated to rest and refit, and do not appear to have prepared themselves to receive a Ukrainian offensive.
+And yet NATO doesn't capitalize on this? Bullshit, the jews are lying again
+Maybe Ukraine hasn't drafted enough 60 year old men for their magical offensive yet
+--- 57979101
+>>57973220
+
+Lol no. 
+
+Bleach, ethanol, isopropanol and even epoxide are all fine for CLEAN SURFACES. 
+
+They don't penetrate biofilm. You can't clean the lumen of the needle, even prior to autoclaving surgical tools, they need to be cleaned with brushes in solution first. If there are any areas you can't clean or pockmarks in the instrument, they need to be thrown away. 
+
+Like anything else, you need friction and to remove layers to allow any chemical action to happen. 
+
+Like you can't just clean your rifle by dipping it in oil ffs.
+--- 57979105
+>>57973395
+
+Don't interrupt the enemy when he's making mistakes
+
+the CCP and esp Xi has bullshitted their own population so much they may be forced to war, and then we'll show them who's boss
+--- 57979179
+>>57979087
+Even if you didn't just out yourself as a shill with the old NATO chestnut, you're ignoring the very big issue of weather and muddy conditions that have stalled both sides. There's no point rushing Leopard tanks and Bradleys into a morass where they'll get picked off by artillery and anti-tank forces.
+--- 57979208
+>>57979179
+War is truly a test of indominable wills.
+Russia and their total inability to follow through with the consequences of their red lines, always pushing their own goal posts back.
+Ukraine and their total inability to realistically assess their own capabilities, always calling for a cure-all offensive that never comes. How many "army groups" of 3000 men each are they creating now? And how many of those men are above 40?
+
+Which side will cave first? Will Russia admit they're a bunch of pussies? Or will Ukraine just run out of humans to put uniforms on?
+--- 57979760
+>>57979101
+One word ultrasonic. Ethanol in an ultrasonic bath works great.
+--- 57979768
+ISW are shit and just steal analysis/maps from others
+--- 57979987
+>>57970389
+wouldn't it be better to cover the trenches in sheet metal instead?
+--- 57980007
+>>57973288
+wtf did they make them out of to be deteriorating like that in such a short period of time?
+--- 57980066
+>>57970498
+I concur as I neither had auditory nor visual stuff occur after 72h upon multiple occasions. (One said occasion food wasn't available so not sure if thatd matter)
+--- 57980203
+>>57971841
+>he took the (flu)vax
+--- 57980214
+>>57979208
+>always calling for a cure-all offensive that never comes
+Can you tell me how "forever Russian" Kherson is doing these days? Acting like neither side has done anything all war is pretty silly, Ivan.
+--- 57980295
+>>57970890
+That sounds like it would improve RU defense actually, while being detrimental to their attacks
+--- 57980332
+>>57979208
+dont know anything about Ukraine running out of humans to put uniforms on but Puccia is certainly running low on tanks and IFVs after suiciding them into defensive positions like picrel lmao
+--- 57980335
+>>57979208
+>always calling for a cure-all offensive that never comes
+You're acting like an offensive is a mythical idea and not something they successfully pulled off not even a full year ago. They've been very publicly massing up western armor and it's pretty safe to assume shit's going to pop off towards the summer months.
+--- 57980380
+>>57971509
+>What's incorrect about ISW's assessment?
+
+Doesn't follow the russian propaganda narrative.
+
+You're not supposed to ask these people what's wrong because all you get is a path down the propaganda narrative. Save time and energy and don't create a situation where other people have to watch a conversation where you ask X and the vatnik gets to spread its propaganda in front of the audience. Call them a faggot instead, for example.
+--- 57980470
+>>57980380
+Yeah after talking for five minutes with a tankie commie who seemed good faith and on-schizo enough he was telling me about Ukrop nazi snipers selling child headshot safaris in the Donbas and nAtO cOmMaNdOs leading the charge on Kherson at the time
+
+no way to engage with that except: no
+--- 57980475
+>>57980470
+>on-schizo
+non-schizo
+--- 57980487
+>>57978489
+Letting men return to the rear is dangerous. What if they start spreading rumors about how shitty everything is? Good luck getting anyone to go (back) to the frontlines after that.
+Hell, "professional" troopers were able to break their contracts legally all the way until the "partial" mobilization was declared.
+--- 57980493
+>>57970389
+>turn a dumb grenade into airburst
+genius
+--- 57980502
+>>57970275 (OP)
+Simply sitting in a trench is not an effective defense. A good defense involves tactically offensive tasks like counter attacking to restore key defensive positions.

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+-----
+--- 57970482
+>Invest billions in super tacticool elite call of duty paratrooper independent arm with lots of unique equipment and weapons
+>Show them off as your new praetorian guard every year in your big military parade
+>announce their expansion and even more taxpayer money being shoveled to them
+>In the opening hours of your 3 day special military operation they immediately get massacred by gypsy townsfolk and never appear again
+What did Russia mean by this
+--- 57970561
+>>57970482 (OP)
+>Show them off as your new praetorian guard
+Njet
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_Russia
+is Putin's praetorian guard, though probably less likely to kill him than the real thing.
+--- 57970564
+>>57970561
+And they performed even worse than VDV
+--- 57970571
+>>57970482 (OP)
+As fair as I know after the initial fuck up they operated mostly in places like Kherson, where they did goood
+--- 57970579
+>>57970571
+yeah they fled from there real good
+--- 57970593
+>>57970579
+They made a fighting retreat, as opposed to an outright rout like in the Kharkiv offensive with the Guards armies.
+--- 57970623
+>>57970571
+They died pretty good, then the riot control military police that followed because they were retarded and thought that they wouldn't fight also died pretty good
+--- 57970655
+>>57970593
+the fact the best of the best of the supposed #2 superpower of the world is forced to retreat in the face of a third world shithole is pretty funny
+--- 57970694
+>>57970655
+>third world
+Second world. Non-NATO ex-USSR states are considered second world according to the old classification.
+--- 57970717
+>>57970482 (OP)
+>billions in super tacticool elite call of duty paratrooper independent arm with lots of unique equipment and weapons
+They didn't. They had rifles without optics, chinese radios, and aluminum tin cans as vehicles. Any standard NATO infantry squad has better gear.
+--- 57970768
+>>57970655
+How rude of you to demote US to #2. For the record: all the equipment Taliban picked up was a gesture of good will. Every goal of the 7393-day special needs military operation has been achieved.
+--- 57970781
+>>57970482 (OP)
+
+I dunno, ask SEAL TEAM 6.
+--- 57970790
+>>57970623
+this is one of the finest pictures of this war for me.
+i imagine 20 or so of them sitting in an apc, hitting their battons in their hands. making jokes about raping the hottest bitches and smashing in some hohol skulls and suddenly - ACK.
+They get fokin obliterated by mortar and MG fire. This may be the most karma thing of the whole war.
+--- 57970808
+>>57970482 (OP)
+>Invest billions in super luxury mansions, state of art yachts, and german limousines
+>In the opening hours of your 3 day special military operation they immediately get massacred
+fixed it for you
+--- 57970865
+>>57970790
+Yeah, and despite all the dead HOMOS in route to Kyiv, many vatniks pretend Russia didn't try to take over the country in a few days without opposition.
+--- 57970868
+>>57970482 (OP)
+>>57970579
+>>57970655
+To be fair, the VDV did what they could without support from the main force meant to relieve them. They captured their objectives as they were mean and held on to them. At that point, it was the Russian mechanized dvisions that scuffed things: they needed to rendezvous with the VDV and absolutely failed to do so, which resulted in the complete route of multiple VDV units.
+--- 57970884
+>>57970868
+The VDV was actually relieved a few days later despite their losses, but they later were pretty much wiped out in their push through Bucha and Irpin
+--- 57970983
+Imagine posting the same video from the first week of the war, more than a year ago, to try prove your winning the war because you had no other military success in the meanwhile. Nice cope Ukroniggers.
+--- 57971034
+>>57970768
+US casualties in the final years of Afghanistan were like 20 which is like an hour in Ukraine. There was never a case of the US military being militarily forced to retreat in a pitched battle, which has happened hundreds of times to Russia in Ukraine
+--- 57971039
+>>57970983
+>it happened a year ago so it doesn't count
+wewlad. How many times do you still shriek about the 2006 Lebanon war or US withdrawal from Afghanistan I wonder
+--- 57971051
+>>57970768
+Difference is when america invaded Afghanistan they pushed them out of all cities and into the mountains where they fought a relatively low level insurgency while their nation was completely occupied.
+You on the other hand didn’t even get to that stage before losing, in fact you hardly managed to take a fucking tenth of the territory of Ukraine after more than a year of heavy fighting with multiple times as many casualties in that year alone than all nato casualties in Afghanistan.
+Though I think on some level deep down you know I’m right I think your delusion means you’ll forget this post and the arguments within an hour
+--- 57971067
+>>57970983
+Yeah bro, Kherson or Kharkiv totally didn’t happen.
+All ukropiggy CGI
+--- 57971069
+>>57971051
+It's pretty funny that Russian shills keep shrieking about Afghanistan, even though that would be the equivalent of Russia actually winning its 3 day operation and then having to suppress insurgents, rather than losing a fighting retreat
+--- 57971073
+>>57970868
+This is incorrect. Even if you drove at 60 mph average speed from Belarus into the airport at Kiev the mech div wouldn't have made it in time. The VDV did a good job at kicking out the airport security, but then started getting rolled once the regulars showed up.
+--- 57971111
+>>57970564
+They're not even a military formation and some outright refused to participate in the invasion because they're a domestic police force, and there was no notice they would be advancing into Ukraine. No surprise they got mulched.
+--- 57971114
+>>57970564
+A praetorian guard is often only elite in a social sense. Their tactical prowess is often unimpressive. Even when looking at ancient rome the only actual praetorians worth a damn were pre augustus, as those were actual fighting soldiers promoted to bodyguard duty. The imperial praetorian guard was overpaid, underworked and for sale.
+--- 57971152
+>>57971039
+
+Why you speak about the 2006 lebanon war, you are israeli ? Are americans Israeli ?
+--- 57971158
+>>57970482 (OP)
+The VDV have been fighting since day 1, they were the major defensive force around Kherson and have taken up defensive duties in Bakhmut too
+
+They captured Gostomel and Kherson
+
+The videos of VDV convoys wiped out mostly occurred because their own propaganda told them they'd be welcomed as " liberators " and just rode into cities not expecting to fight anyone
+
+Mind you all the " muh 10 VDV planes shot down, muh VDV dropped in ocean " shit was literal twitter screencaps that there's zero evidence of happening 
+
+VDV are fine troops, they've got a good history in the Soviet Army, Chechnya, Georgia IIRC and Syria. Stop repeating memes you've heard on the internet 
+
+I'm not excusing this shitshow of an invasion, but the VDV troopers themselves have done fine given their circumstances
+--- 57971183
+>>57971051
+>Difference is when america invaded Afghanistan they pushed them out of all cities and into the mountains where they fought a relatively low level insurgency while their nation was completely occupied.
+>You on the other hand didn’t even get to that stage before losing
+Tbf, the Soviets did this exact same thing
+--- 57971188
+>Invest billions
+--- 57971190
+>>57970482 (OP)
+Never underestimate gypsy curses.
+--- 57971214
+>>57970482 (OP)
+why wasnt the VDV air dropped?
+why did the helicopters and planes need to land?
+isnt the WHOLE point of VDV is to be air dropped into battle?
+--- 57971222
+>>57970790
+>i imagine 20 or so of them sitting in an apc, hitting their battons in their hands. making jokes about raping the hottest bitches and smashing in some hohol skulls
+If anything we've heard is true, these dudes probably didn't even know where they were
+
+Once again, I don't understand this boards obsession with turning Russian troops into cartoonishly evil brutes.
+
+The National Guard dudes you're talking about refused to enter Ukraine half the time and didn't even want to be involved
+--- 57971256
+>>57971214
+>>why wasnt the VDV air dropped?
+They were, in some places
+--- 57971297
+>>57970865
+This is the most bewildering thing to me. Russians have completely memoryholed the failed "blitz" to Kiev. They literally act like Bakhmut has been the only battle the entire war.
+>Kiev
+I do not recollect.
+>Kherson
+I do not recollect.
+>Kharkiv
+I do not recollect.
+>Siege of Mariupol
+I do not recollect but we own city so glorious Rossiya victory.
+It's like a severe case of stockholm syndrome where Russians just think they win every battle because the government said so.
+--- 57971302
+>>57971158
+>reddit spacing 
+go back
+--- 57971305
+>>57971214
+Hostomel would have been 10x funnier watching VDV get spread out over the entire city hanging from wires and buildings. It would have been an even bigger disaster, crazy as that sounds. 
+
+Static jumps are for competent airborne forces, VDV is/was not competent.
+--- 57971327
+>>57971297
+The Russians could be pushed back to Moscow and they’d still be saying they won the war.
+Completely and unironically they are not humans. They’re closer to insects, and that’s not me being “le edgy moderate” meme it’s an actual observation after interacting with them for years
+--- 57971332
+>>57970482 (OP)
+Ruzzia never cared about VDV, beside nobody got hurt, they reached their barracks on their own power. It's was just part of a bigger plan.
+--- 57971342
+>>57971222
+>The National Guard dudes you're talking about refused to enter Ukraine half the time and didn't even want to be involved
+Yeah no shit, these are the guys keeping Putin in power. They are some of the few people who know what's actually going on in Ukraine and all they're good at is beating up unarmed protesters.
+--- 57971345
+>>57971158
+>Soviet Army, Chechnya, Georgia IIRC and Syria
+So against literal insurgents and third rate shithole armies? Congratulations VDV, now let's see their performance in Ukraine against an actual opposing force of equal strength.
+--- 57971346
+>>57970868
+To be fair all vatniks should be eradicated from this planet for good.
+--- 57971376
+>>57971305
+That unironically would've been a lot better for them. A lot more would have ben captured that way.
+--- 57971396
+>>57971069
+Russia did complete its goals. Who is in control of eastern Ukraine and Crimea right now? Both are the most resources of Ukraine
+--- 57971403
+>>57971214
+This is a VDV live training, it simulates failing at war and being captured by Ukraine farmers while being humiliated in front of the whole world for everyone to enjoy.
+--- 57971409
+>>57971396
+What about the goal of invading Kiev and forcing a regime change? Or am I not allowed to remember that?
+--- 57971410
+>>57971396
+Russia completed his goal and retreated back on his own power.
+--- 57971432
+>>57971396
+>Russia did complete its goals
+haha stop it!
+--- 57971443
+>>57971396
+So when is Russia going to liberate the foreverial tied up Russian city of Kherson?
+--- 57971464
+>>57971396
+so what happened to the denazifying of the ukranian govt and also reclaiming the entire country?
+--- 57971499
+>>57970768
+you would think vatniks wouldnt mention afghanistan 
+>14k killed (the soviet admitted got killed)
+--- 57971501
+>>57971396
+Comment I read on youtube. Too lazy to ctrl + c it, but it sums up pretty much every reason you're a retad. Obvious bait, but have a (You).
+--- 57971510
+>>57971501
+I am retard.
+--- 57971531
+>>57970694
+No one uses that and you aren't smart for knowing the
+>UHHHH AKSHULLY IT CLASSIFIES UNALIGNED -ACK
+--- 57971542
+>>57970482 (OP)
+>never appear again
+anon?
+--- 57971553
+>>57970694
+You know damn well third world means a poor, destitute shithole (probably like the one you live in). The only people who use second world are people who are too ashamed to admit their country is poverty stricken.
+--- 57971570
+>>57971510
+When this war is over and the fractured remains of former Russia are being guarded by blue helmets to keep them from caving eachothers skulls in with empty vodka bottles, vatniks here will be here posting how Putin was a CIA plant tasked to destroy Russia.
+--- 57971572
+>>57971158
+>muh VDV dropped in ocean
+This was caught in video.
+--- 57971584
+>>57970868
+Fighting over and around hostomel went on for days
+They lost the airport and got dicked were relieved, and then got annihilated and sent fully packing
+--- 57971592
+>>57970482 (OP)
+>super tacticool elite call of duty paratrooper independent arm
+Is that what the VDV are? They also came across as like some kind of paratrooper cops.
+--- 57971595
+>>57971570
+kek Russians are the gift that keeps on giving. I'd almost miss their braindead asses if they disappeared.
+--- 57971605
+>>57971034
+The USSR lost repeated military engagements in Afghanistan
+--- 57971618
+>>57971595
+Seconded. 
+Russians are at least lolcows. 
+Changs on the other hand are fuckimg unbearable.
+--- 57971634
+>>57971158
+Ah yes, Gostomel and Kherson. Bastions of Russia. Another victory of vee dee veh!
+--- 57971638
+>>57971158
+VDV had a Gallipoli moment in a modern war
+That is unforgivable, it is outright pathetic of both the VDV and the RUF as a whole
+--- 57971647
+>>57971297
+They do this all the time. They pretend Kiev, Kherson, Izyum, Irpin, Kharkov, Moskva never happened. "Europe will freeze" slogan you heard 24/7 until winter actually came and the failed Iranian drones never existed. The war to them has no past, only present and future
+--- 57971662
+>>57971158
+>They captured Gostomel and Kherson
+Who controls Hostomel and Kherson as of today, April 25, 2023?
+--- 57971676
+>>57971595
+>>57971618
+They won't disappear, they just won't be Russian any more but Muscovites, Novgorodians, Permians etc. I don't worry about them.
+Chechnya, Ischkeria and Ingusshitfucking who cares how to spell it might turn into a shitshow of biblical proportions. The thought of nuclear ISIS simultaneously scares the shit out of me and gives me a big raging boner
+--- 57971684
+>>57971662
+Exactly. It's like saying "I punched Mike Tyson", completely ignoring what would happen after
+--- 57971720
+>>57971158
+>I'm not excusing this shitshow of an invasion
+You literally are.
+--- 57971726
+>>57971553
+>>57971531
+NTA but I do not think you can paint Ukraine with the same brush as Botswana or Uganda. They are in Europe, they have some industry, and they are getting better.
+--- 57971727
+>>57971327
+>Completely and unironically they are not humans. They’re closer to insects, and that’s not me being “le edgy moderate” meme it’s an actual observation after interacting with them for years
+very true
+--- 57971739
+>>57971676
+>Ingusshitfucking who cares how to spell it 
+lmao
+--- 57971792
+>>57971188
+Yeah but it's in rubles so that's like 30 bucks
+--- 57971908
+>>57971158
+>>57971662
+>They captured Gostomel 
+They entered in a prepared killzone and got obliterated.
+--- 57971978
+>>57971908
+Yeah but they possessed the killzone when the ukrainians were shooting it to hell (:
+--- 57971985
+>>57970561
+>Instead of a blue striped shirt they wear red
+This is some video game boss tier shit
+--- 57972029
+>>57971985
+I thought soldiers on parade are supposed to either look emotionless or fiercesome
+Why do they all look like someone just complimented their hair?
+--- 57972047
+>>57972029
+to evoke soviet-era depictions of the happy, triumphant red army soldier
+--- 57972504
+>>57970482 (OP)
+Yeah, this war has only reinforced the lesson that having a parade unit the size of a corps is an inefficient use of resources. And that if you know that in the event of war, you will employ 90%+ of your airborne force as motorized infantry, don't stick them in BMDs
+--- 57972525
+>>57971531
+>>57971553
+Ukraine was an industrialized, developed nation. It just wasn't a *wealthy* developed nation. Second world really is the best term in this case.
+--- 57972549
+>>57971985
+Turns out that they where just good a shooting at civilians and not that good against someone that actually fought back.
+--- 57972736
+>>57970768
+>US pulls out Afghanistan.
+>The country immediately collapses.
+>By almost any metric imaginable, Afghanistan is worse today than when we were present.
+Not sure why this is an own against the United States.
+--- 57972747
+>>57970983
+>no other military success
+bait.
+--- 57972805
+>>57971190
+I'll never forget the video of a Ukrainian civilian telling a bunch of Russian soldiers something like "Every second woman in this village is a witch. By tomorrow you won't be able to get your dick up ever again." This was the first few days of the war, so the Russians laughed instead of shooting him and taking his wallet.
+--- 57972819
+>>57971327
+>This war is slowly turning me into that angry uncle or grandparent that passionately hates Russians for "no reason" (thats what the grandkids think at least)
+Feelsgood man
+--- 57972915
+>>57971214
+The VDV has both airborne and airmobile units. It's somewhat like how the US XVIII Airborne Corps includes both the 82nd Airborne Division and the 101st Airborne (Air Assault) Division (as well as a light infantry division and an armored division because yolo).
+--- 57972973
+>>57971222
+>I don't understand this boards obsession with turning Russian troops into cartoonishly evil brutes.
+Bucha and Mariupol.
+--- 57973006
+>>57971222
+>I don't understand this boards obsession with turning Russian troops into cartoonishly evil brutes
+Why would anybody think that of them??
+--- 57973015
+>>57971985
+>can't even all look in the same direction for parade
+oof
+--- 57973041
+>>57971570
+It's amazing how every Russian ruler going back at least as far as Tsar Nicholas II has turned out to have been a traitor and an enemy of the people all along.
+--- 57973374
+>>57970865
+
+Dude why'd you flip the picture?
+--- 57973401
+>>57971034
+>There was never a case of the US military being militarily forced to retreat in a pitched battle
+
+There was one case actually, Takur Ghar. Granted the Rangers also killed everyone on the mountain before retreating.
+--- 57973433
+>>57971726
+>Botswana
+
+That's actually a legitimately decent country, not just by Africa standards. They've used their natural resources well, controlled the aids epidemic, and have a much more stable government than Vatnikistan.
+--- 57974445
+>>57973433
+Such a weird cope. Seen this a few times here on /k/ there is not a single country in Africa that has a functioning government and infrastructure. They are all shitholes
+--- 57974625
+>>57974445
+Better military performance than Russia
+--- 57976315
+>>57970482 (OP)
+Bump
+--- 57976330
+>>57971222
+Bucha, Mariupol, Soledar, Bakhmut?
+--- 57976638
+>>57970790
+You do a lot of imagining. Tell us the one about how you imagine yourself being the prettiest girl in high school instead of the pedo turd who got beaten daily by the cheerleaders.
+--- 57976890
+>>57971073
+
+>but then started getting rolled once the regulars showed up.
+
+except that hostomel was a ground and rotary wing logistics hub for the russian forces in kiev until pullout and was never retaken despite what memes you saw.
+VDV losses came from their ground forces moving up to hostomel, not from the air assault into hostomel itself which was literaly textbook and achieved all its objectives.
+
+>>57971908
+>They entered in a prepared killzone and got obliterated.
+
+not in the airport itself sorry
+--- 57978270
+>>57971158
+>Mind you all the " muh 10 VDV planes shot down, muh VDV dropped in ocean " shit was literal twitter screencaps that there's zero evidence of happening
+lol, lmao
+--- 57978332
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Ji7KqqEqg [Embed]
+very good, very unbiased retelling of the battle for hostomel i hadn't seen before yesterday. 
+VDV did what they could, held the airport for a while. The batallion of VDV there had no real shot at holding back 3 partial brigades ukraine sent to take it back, VDV were pushed off the airfield and only retook it once the proper mechanized units arrived from belarus
+--- 57978342
+>>57976638
+mad
+--- 57980150
+>>57970655
+>the fact the best of the best of the supposed #2 superpower of the world is forced to retreat in the face of a third world shithole is pretty funny
+Haha, yeah, that's hilarious.
+--- 57980172
+>>57971034
+>There was never a case of the US military being militarily forced
+When was the lat time the U.S. military fought anything close to a near peer adversary? When have they ever faced serious threat of artillery, missiles, and rockets?
+--- 57980257
+>>57970768
+Thirdies really think the equipment left in Afghanistan represented a significant portion of US military power huh
+My pet theory is that Putin also believed this to be true and attacked thinking the US couldn't intervene. Big mistake
+--- 57980271
+>>57980150
+didn't russia also retreat from afghanistan?
+--- 57980279
+>>57971345
+> literal insurgents and third rate shithole armies
+Yes, that's what americans usually lose to
+--- 57980294
+>>57980271
+They took more than twice the casualties in less than half the time compared to the US
+--- 57980297
+>>57980271
+>didn't russia also retreat from afghanistan?
+Yes. They also mined the shit out of the airfields and destroyed equipment rather leave it to fall into Afghan hands. They also didn't bring as many Afghans into their country as possible.
+--- 57980300
+>>57980150
+the vatnik union retreating from afghanistan was one of the factors, along with glasnost, that provoked the collapse of the same vatnik union, but keep coping
+--- 57980306
+>>57980297
+They also never controlled the country like the USA did, and they lost 10 times as many men in half the time, and their whole alliance and country collapsed immediately afterwards, but you forgot about those details
+--- 57980308
+>>57970482 (OP)
+i think it's kind of weird because of how cleanly they did the little green men operation
+--- 57980349
+>>57980300
+>but keep coping
+I really don't care that much. I just don't foam at the mouth about Russia 24/7 like you do. 
+>>57980306
+>but you forgot about those details
+The U.S. dumped 2.3 trillion in Afghanistan over 20 years, and 8 trillion in the 'war on terror,' in order to achieve... ??? In Nov. 2022 the U.S. M2 dollar supply went into negative growth for the first time in over 70 years. I guess that is winning.
+--- 57980399
+>>57980349
+The US also didn't collapse while Russia spent the 90s prostituting their kids to survive lmao
+--- 57980419
+>>57980399
+I'm not sure what point you think you are making? That no matter what happens it's just fine because Russia something, something? Like I said before, I really don't care about Russia, and cannot understand you retards that use Russia as the yard stick of everything that is going on everywhere. Since Russia exists everyone else is immune to humiliating mistakes and failure?
+--- 57980441
+>>57971222
+I dunno, using artillery to turn various cities into rubble, massacring some others, filming your troops decapitating captured ukrainian?
+--- 57980447
+>>57980419
+Russia is such a collection of mistakes and failure it kind of dwarfs everything else, yes.
+--- 57980474
+>>57980447
+>it kind of dwarfs everything else, yes.
+That's not what I asked, dummy.
+--- 57980494
+>>57980419
+>the fact the best of the best of the supposed #2 superpower of the world is forced to retreat in the face of a third world shithole is pretty funny
+>B-but what about America?
+pashol naxui, pidor. The absolute state of the Russian "military" makes you unqualified to utter even a single word about civilized nations, petuh.
+--- 57980499
+>>57980494
+I am a U.S. citizen and that makes ME better than YOU, retard.

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+-----
+--- 57970486
+Another video of trench warfare near Bakhmut-Chasiv Yar road. Gore and mud. 
+https://files.catbox.moe/dss9he.mp4
+--- 57970502
+Every recent video of someone dying in this war is in a trench, they should stay out of them.
+--- 57970516
+>>57970502
+t. Trenchbeaver
+--- 57970524
+>>57970486 (OP)
+video isnt playing right
+--- 57970533
+>>57970486 (OP)
+Crazy that we get to just watch an actual war like this
+--- 57970542
+That is some grim terrain. Good thing it looks dry.
+--- 57970543
+>>57970524
+Seems like a problem on your end
+--- 57970547
+>>57970486 (OP)
+>Start of as a 300
+>End up as a 200
+Does it count as leveling up or down?
+--- 57970553
+>>57970524
+yeah, don't know why. anyway, here is the tg link: https://t.me/ab3army/2450
+--- 57970570
+>>57970486 (OP)
+From what I heard the trenches near the road are a brutal vatnik meat grinder.
+
+It's a triple trench system and the Russians have taken part of one of them but get farmed by the rest.
+
+They send Wagner/mobiks to crawl along and assault. But they just get blasted by rotating drones dropping one load after the other. Once all are wounded the ukis clean them up with a squad. The trench got shot to shit and is just mostly a ditch by now.
+--- 57970586
+>>57970547
+lol
+--- 57970591
+>>57970543
+
+No idiot some dipshit uploaded it as an audio file.
+--- 57970639
+Here you go:
+https://rumble.com/v2kd9yu-last-road-to-bakhmut-25.05.2023.html
+--- 57970702
+Exploding varmints.
+--- 57970710
+I’m wondering if Bakhmut is going to be Ukraine’s Gettysburg in the future…big National Park and all kinds of restaurants and schlock emporiums where you will be able to buy cheap t-shirts and rubber AKs and shoddy drones with plastic grenades to drop on your little friends?
+
+ And they’ll have busloads of future geezer Ukie veterans pull up to tell war stories and eat at shitty buffets and relive their PTSD and shit.
+
+ Maybe I could open a Bakhmut Battlefield Waterpark for the kids.
+ I think Ukraine really NEEDS a giant waterpark.
+
+ Get some convicts on work-release to dress up as Wally Wagnerite and Mischa Mobnik and shit…
+--- 57970741
+>>57970639
+thank you anon
+--- 57970746
+>>57970502
+--- 57970752
+>>57970639
+
+I wonder what happened after the grenade comes flying back at the camera.
+--- 57970793
+>>57970752
+the ring is still in place, it's his buddy borrowing the cameraman his 'nade
+--- 57970806
+>>57970570
+they are literally the lowest vodka caste, aren't those the buy-it-yourself soliders because the rest of the russian army wants to stay put and refuses to participate?
+--- 57970811
+>>57970752
+It seems like his buddy passed him a grenade that he then threw next.
+--- 57970818
+>>57970547
+It's points anon, 300 pts to take a vatnik out of action, and 200 extra if you take him out the world.
+--- 57970825
+>>57970570
+They've taken multiple layers at various times in the past few days but have been beaten back several times. That said with the threat they pose to Khromove I think it is now inevitable that Ukraine will withdraw from Bakhmut before a counterattack can rescue the positions. If weather was more cooperative it might have ended differently, but at least locally the weather is on Russia's side this year. 
+Of course in the grand scheme the warm winter kind of fucked up their whole economic blackmail plan and their economy is utterly fucked with very little to show for it other than hoping and coping that next winter will be colder. Meanwhile they will be completely out of their accessible currency reserves before 2024.
+--- 57970968
+>>57970486 (OP)
+these people are so much better at video editing than arabs
+--- 57971002
+>>57970710
+>I think Ukraine really NEEDS a giant waterpark.
+I agree, although the job of cleaning up the unexploded munitions seems massive and horrible.
+--- 57971017
+>>57970968
+Video magic is Haram
+--- 57971035
+>>57970486 (OP)
+>300
+>200
+>200
+no wonder ukies claim such high casulties, no way there are 700 people in this frame
+--- 57971070
+>>57970806
+3 more days
+--- 57971078
+>>57971035
+kek
+--- 57971084
+>>57971002
+Just realized it's a based Russian strategy
+>realize you're losing the war
+>retreat while lobbing decades old artillery shells
+>the fuses are wonky so even when you finally get pushed out, you at least made the enemy land uninhabitable with all the unexploded shells
+GENIUS
+--- 57971244
+>>57970639
+>MFW the 300 flips to 200
+--- 57971268
+>>57971071
+It's 2016+7 anon. Being an incel isn't cool anymore.
+--- 57971285
+>>57970543
+The problem is hohol ineptitude in uploading corrupt files.
+--- 57971333
+>>57970746
+baseless pseudoscience
+--- 57971351
+>>57971071
+Aren't they convicts? Probably better off risking their lives but it still begs the question why don't they just surrender to Ukraine and seek asylum.
+--- 57971363
+>>57970639
+you still taking donations?
+--- 57971385
+>>57970486 (OP)
+>https://files.catbox.moe/dss9he.mp4
+is it just me, or catbox doesn't work like they used too
+--- 57971421
+>>57970486 (OP)
+>https://files.catbox.moe/dss9he.mp4
+
+wow hahah this is fucking awesome like a game
+
+I wonder how many Russians the West has to kill before Russians kill Putin
+--- 57971487
+Genuine question, why don't we see these or underslung grenades used.
+--- 57971489
+>>57971385
+the video is shit
+>>57970639
+--- 57971805
+>>57971487
+I'm surprised they haven't started fielding some kind of airburst launchers or these
+--- 57971871
+>>57971363
+Yep
+Added link on video description.
+This video on rumble.
+--- 57972051
+>>57971035
+300 - injured
+200 - dead
+--- 57972080
+>>57970486 (OP)
+These guys are Azov, right?
+--- 57972112
+>>57972080
+Azov fall in Mariupol
+There is no Azov anymore
+But some people in 3rd brigade were related to Azov
+--- 57972121
+>>57972112
+>Azov fell in Mariupol
+Literally the opposite of the truth anon.
+Why lie.
+--- 57972150
+>>57972112
+How do we tell him?
+--- 57972169
+>>57972150
+Tell what?
+--- 57972184
+>>57972169
+I wouldn't worry about it
+--- 57972198
+>>57971871
+why is your pp name the same as a 48 year old Ukrainian State Boarder Garde?
+--- 57972212
+>>57970825
+>Weather good for EU, bad for Ukraine
+I've heard similar analysis. I wonder that's what the Ukrainians are waiting for, a favorable change in weather.
+>Meanwhile they will be completely out of their accessible currency reserves before 2024.
+We can only hope.
+--- 57972251
+>>57970486 (OP)
+>>57970639
+
+Sorry newfag here. How was this overhead footage captured? Is there just a tower near this trench with a really nice camera on it? Or were drones used?
+--- 57972255
+>>57972080
+3rd brigade was build around Special Operations Forces unit made of Azov veterans who already left military when Russians went to war
+--- 57972265
+>>57972198
+Its my alias from the start of invasion.
+I cant give you my real name because i live at the frontline.
+Donation confidentiality - guaranteed
+Here some photo for - its just some case from tank munition< used like ashtrey near some pub
+--- 57972297
+>>57972265
+how do you take donations?
+--- 57972314
+>>57972297
+Paypall.
+Add to desripion here: >>57970639
+--- 57972329
+>>57972265
+>i live at the frontline.
+Fucking retard.
+--- 57972344
+>>57972329
+Did you ever hear the shokwave from 400kg of TNT 1 mile from you?
+I do
+--- 57972372
+>>57970486 (OP)
+>Uke’s using blue arm bands
+>Russians using red arm bands
+It’s almost like they know which side of good and evil they’re on, this timeline is too fucking on the nose
+--- 57972430
+Thanks for 10$
+I got it
+--- 57972528
+>>57972430
+Keep being real, anon.
+--- 57972568
+>>57972372
+why is this so hard to comprehend?
+vatnik flag is red white blue
+ukie flag yellow and blue
+it makes sense for neither side to use blue as it could be both sides, but ukies use it anyway
+yellow makes sense
+red makes sense
+white make sorta sense, but its a terrible color war
+green, no fucking clue
+--- 57972589
+>>57970486 (OP)
+Bleak in every way
+--- 57972634
+>>57970710
+Give it two decades of EU gibs and you'll see it: a gaint waterpark, the slides looking like trenches, deactivated mg42s that kids can use to spray water on each other... Outside there are souvenir shops the tourists can visit after doing the guided "Battle of Bakmut" bus-tour. (You can even buy real bullets from the battle there)
+Its gonna be the most sanitised, corporate tourist trap shit and it will be fucking great. So great they will even thank us for it.
+--- 57972642
+>>57972051
+Whats 100?
+--- 57972681
+>>57971002
+They should use Fagner POWs to deal with all the UXO.
+--- 57972691
+>>57972372
+>>57972568
+Since the cold war era, the West uses blue and the Soviets use red, it is what it is.
+--- 57972778
+>>57970639
+This shit is brutal
+Even for invading orcs
+russian lives are worth nothing really, jesus christ
+--- 57972807
+>>57972344
+Should have been 1m instead.
+--- 57972818
+>>57972642
+returning to base on their own power
+--- 57972821
+>>57972112
+>Azov fell in Mariupol
+and got back up after being released by the denazifiers themselves lol
+--- 57972961
+What a hellscape.
+--- 57972994
+>>57972251
+Drones.
+--- 57973960
+Is that bits of Ork flying through the air?
+--- 57973976
+>>57973960
+holy fucking shit
+--- 57973986
+>>57972807
+>>57972821
+--- 57974026
+>>57973960
+more likely
+i see some part of IIFS
+--- 57974041
+>>57970570
+>and is just mostly a ditch by now.
+Aren't all trenches just ditches when you get down to it?
+--- 57974043
+>>57973960
+That's definitely bits of load-bearing gear.
+--- 57974133
+There will be full version of this video on Youtube.
+This is just teaser.
+--- 57974153
+jijijija
+--- 57976557
+>>57970486 (OP)
+Am I seeing this right or some untrained mobik retard threw a still pinned grenade which was then promptly picked up and used againt said mobik?
+--- 57976606
+>>57976557
+first of all its M67 grenade
+second - its just temmate give this grenade
+--- 57976619
+>>57976557
+It's an M67 frag. Not used by Russians. Most likely his buddy chucked it over to him.
+--- 57976644
+>>57976557
+whats it like having a sub 80iq ?
+--- 57976657
+what's the point of having infantry if they're so fucking helpless against small drones carrying grenades or kamikaze drones?
+
+Might as well deploy small drones to do the work of infantry.
+--- 57976701
+>>57970486 (OP)
+>https://files.catbox.moe/dss9he.mp4
+goddamn I love ASOV
+--- 57976710
+>>57976657
+Drones cant defend trenches and storm
+--- 57976716
+>>57976657
+as for exploring caves, tunnels, or buildings. Just send in a tiny scout drone to locate enemies, and then just toss a couple of grenades.
+
+The future of warfare will be drones doing recon and bombardment. Infantry will be relegated to cleanup duty.
+--- 57976751
+>>57976657
+>>57976716
+I find it hard to believe that there isn't a cost-effective or near-cost-effective anti-drone weapon against these drones, otherwise we'd much more drone swarm tactics in Ukraine.
+--- 57976753
+>>57976657
+Russia has more mobiks than the West has ammo
+--- 57976755
+Russia is an Africa-tier military. Corrupt, unmaintained equipment, throwing untrained soldiers into attacks as meat, lack of basic supplies like food and clothing, living like animals in filthy conditions, garbage everywhere they sleep even a moment, no proper equipment, mercenaries doing all the difficult work, stealing everything not nailed down, war crimes, retarded commanders, etc.. 
+
+Just pathetic.
+--- 57976756
+>>57970524
+It works if I dl it and play it in MPC, probably a codec issue.
+--- 57976771
+>>57976753
+even that doesn't make any sense, a drone carrying grenades or mortars is still much cheaper than a russian conscript.
+--- 57976779
+>>57976751
+America stopped ISIS using drones with standard truck-mounted jammers. 
+Russia has GPS jamming but they don't seem to do any EW beyond that.
+--- 57976790
+>>57976753
+Pretty sure there are something like eleventy billion bullets in America alone.
+Now there's an idea, ammo buybacks.
+--- 57977139
+>>57971487
+We've seen those used before, infact I think we saw a Azov soldier using one in a video last month. We've also seen GP series underbarrel launchers in use by both sides. In the famous trench assault video the ukrainian soldier uses it to fire grenades indirectly.
+--- 57977151
+>>57972112
+Only the Azov headquarters troops were in Mariupol, the rest were in other parts of Ukraine and survived. Then they got expanded to a brigade-sized unit and do what you see in the OP video.
+--- 57977181
+>>57976751
+Drones in this war are shot down all the time, you can take them down just by shooting them with machine guns, rifles, rockets, missiles etc its that there's a lot of them and they're replaced quickly.
+--- 57977226
+>>57976790
+Terrible idea.
+--- 57977267
+>>57976716
+of course the DoD would spend millions on R&D and $100k a pop for that micro drone. meanwhile you can buy a DJI Mini off the shelf for $1k
+--- 57977637
+>>57970486 (OP)
+>https://files.catbox.moe/dss9he.mp4
+excellent KINO. 
+
+im wondering how high the recon drone was - it looks different than your typical HD dji footage
+--- 57977645
+>>57970542
+it looks like its been pounded by artillery non stop for 9 months, then someone dug some trenches in the mud/body part bog
+--- 57977684
+>>57970533
+crazy that no one is trying to stop it. they want it.
+--- 57977698
+>>57970710
+>thinks Ukraine is going to be a functioning country in the future
+They will never recover from this dogshit war. Fuck zelenskyy.
+--- 57977715
+>>57971421
+I cant comprehend why someone hasn't fragged zelenskyy. Jew faggot coke-addled dickweed prolonging this war.
+What guns would he use?
+--- 57977747
+>>57972112
+What’s picrel then?
+--- 57977865
+>>57977698
+>>57977715
+--- 57978160
+>>57973986
+count em
+--- 57978161
+>>57977698
+>>57977715
+yea because waging war in it has made it anymore stable. retarded 3rd world nigger.
+--- 57978491
+>>57971487
+ive seen underslung GLs tough admittedly they have not been common
+--- 57978548
+>>57970524
+same problem i just streamed it through vlc
+--- 57978760
+>>57970486 (OP)
+it looks like another planet altogether
+--- 57978856
+>>57977865
+>i heckin love watching young men die! it's so cool!
+Shoot yourself faggot. Don't stream it. Don't want to have that shit fuck my brain up like you sociopaths.
+>>57978161
+Can you fucking learn to speak English before typing? ESL faggot freak.
+
+/k/ is such a pozzed shithole.
+--- 57978896
+>>57976771
+Pretty sure that they consider russian conscriptd as free. 
+The equipment that they get loaned to is worth more than themselves
+--- 57978922
+>>57977865
+nobody looks like this though
+--- 57978932
+>>57976710
+i do look like this albeit
+--- 57978974
+>>57976779
+Problem with EW for russia is that drones are crucial for their recon as well.
+--- 57978991
+>>57978856
+Too late, your brain is already completely rotted and broken lmao
+--- 57979178
+>>57978856
+If they don't want to die, they should go home.
+Every nation gets the government it deserves.
+--- 57979191
+>>57978856
+>blame the victim
+<call others sociopaths 
+Typical vatnik projection.
+
+Of all pidorashka talking points blaming Zelensky is the dumbest one since his goverment in many way sabotaged the preparation for defences trying to not provoke Russia.
+
+You fucking retard.
+--- 57979289
+>>57978856
+then fuck off out of here for the duration of the war if you don't like footage about the war, how about it?
+--- 57979291
+>>57978974
+These days a lot of Puccian EW systems have been biting the dust in the shaping operations.
+--- 57979324
+>>57979291
+true, but i just wanted to point out that when russia tries to jam ukrainian drones russian artillery is becoming blind. Americans can jam stuff without losing awareness.
+
+Vatnik milibloggers used to complain about it a lot.
+--- 57979573
+>>57976557
+>captura de tela
+>spic language
+>is a retard
+yep checks out
+--- 57979584
+>>57970825
+I dont think thats gonna happen. Lots of countries have been cutting direct currency deals with Russia. 
+
+At the end of the day China will make sure Russia can stay in because it keeps the west occupied.

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+-----
+--- 57970713
+What are Japan's military capabilities like? How do they stack up compared to their neighbours?
+--- 57970795
+Is this another subtle "I hate japan thread?" because we have one every other day discussing this exact same topic
+--- 57970925
+>>57970795
+Of course it is, he has nothing else to do with his time and if anons wont create japan/korea threads for him, he'll do it himself even if it's just doing the same exact thread from last week.
+--- 57971127
+>>57970795
+>>57970925
+I've got nothing against Japan at all. Just genuinely curious.
+--- 57971157
+>>57971127
+Then look through the archive and read the identical thread from last week.
+--- 57971321
+>>57971127
+They have a decent navy but its already outnumbered by the PLAN. Their army is purely for self defense they don't have true power projection status
+--- 57971427
+Watch the newest Perun video idiot
+--- 57971461
+>>57971321
+It's an SDF, they just gotta make sure no PLA landing ships ever make it.
+--- 57971643
+>>57970713 (OP)
+Japans military is western shaped, western backed and western in supply, therefore it has all the current technological inferiority problems vs Russia&China current western militaries have
+>no HGV
+>no Hypersonic
+>no Target cueing web
+>no advanced multi-direction AESA equipped strike craft
+>no advanced air-targeting guidance solution
+the west is fundamentally 10+years behind China and Russia in hypersonics, which has created the current situation where the US has to go sociopathically insane in order to buy time to 'catch up'.
+
+Russian and Chinese Hypersonics can and WILL push the US out of any region those powers dont want them in, which we are seeing today
+>US kicked out of Eastern Europe
+>US kicked out of Pacific soon
+China could FORCE the US out of Guam literally at any moment, and hopefully will
+lol it will be the most embarrasing humiliation in all of US history when it happens, and I Will laugh my fucking ass off from 'fly-over' America
+--- 57971809
+>>57971643
+bing chilling
+--- 57971945
+>>57971643
+The us haa hypersonic they just dont show it
+--- 57972283
+>>57970713 (OP)
+Japan makes the strongest tanks, planes, and botes. They are qualitively superior to all other countries in the region.
+--- 57972306
+We already have a thread about Japan.
+>>57949737 →
+--- 57972680
+>>57970713 (OP)
+Have a fairly strong navy, but I'd guess SoKo has a better army.
+--- 57972697
+>>57972680
+No shit, Japan has no land borders
+South korea shares a land border with North korea who they've been at war with for decades.
+
+So yeah, South Korea has the stronger army, Japan has the stronger navy.
+
+Their air forces are fairly similar at the moment.
+Though japan has more AWACS and maritime patrol planes which would likely give them the advantage (since they're an island).
+--- 57973003
+I've always been impressed with Japanese DDs (equivalent to what the US would call an FFG). They're probably the best equipped ASW ships smaller than DDG size in the world.
+--- 57973045
+>>57971643
+>no HGV
+>he doesn't know
+Japan starts mass producing long range anti-base multi-mode gliding hypersonic island defense missiles (purely for defense, chang! no offense iyfwim!) this year. 2023.
+--- 57973074
+>>57970713 (OP)
+Japan shits their pants over North Korea, would say they are ahead of Taiwan but that region is stacked in terms of firepower, the order of merit that is generally accepted is PRC > Russia > South Korea > North Korea > Japan > Taiwan
+--- 57973079
+>>57970713 (OP)
+Their equivalents to: Air Force is pretty good, Navy is really good, Army is meh and their new Marines are to fresh to know. Last i heard the Japanese marines were still in the process of being built up for deployments.
+--- 57973101
+>>57973074
+The real question is where the US falls in there, currently most still consider the US > PRC, but the situation is evolving constantly and will invariably lead to a war unless the two alphas somehow figure out a way to live with each other which realistically will never happen as one has to conced to beta status
+--- 57973116
+>>57973045
+They've changed their stance regarding "defense" anyway, they now include attacks IN defense of a regional ally, which requires long-range offensive weapon systems (ballistics missiles and cruise missiles)
+--- 57973143
+>>57970713 (OP)
+--- 57973167
+>>57973116
+> they now include attacks IN defense of a regional ally
+they also now include preemptive attacks. So japan could justify (legally in regards to their own constitution) an attack against military buildup in china without china having to attack japan first.
+--- 57973211
+>>57972697
+If we could get the gooks to stop being at each others' throats they could combine into a pretty effective fighting force
+--- 57975477
+>>57970713 (OP)
+They have a neutered cat boy mascot with boyboobs
+--- 57978810
+>>57973143
+--- 57978883
+>>57978810
+Based, I expect those Abukuma-class destroy escorts will be getting decommissioned soon, or moved solely into training roles. The Mogami-class is looking pretty impressive, 10 ordered and the 7th onward will have 16 VLS cells installed.
+--- 57979009
+>>57978883
+>I expect those Abukuma-class destroy escorts will be getting decommissioned soon,
+Yup, Mogamis replace them as planned.
+--- 57979271
+>>57970713 (OP)
+Pretty good army 
+Would buttrape the both gooklands in a war
+--- 57979357
+Nigga stfu you'd die in a civil war
+--- 57980334
+>>57973211
+I'd say a lot of it is just high-level bantz. They talk hella shit about each other but still consoom eachother's media and travel to their countries. I was surprised at how much animu was on Korean Tv. The Metro in Seoul even did announcements in Japanese.

k/57970801.txt

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+-----
+--- 57970801
+R-Rule Brittania, Brittania rule the waves!
+
+So much about the war on China and Russia.
+--- 57970906
+It's not like they're getting rid of it you stupid fuck.
+
+Here is what is ACTUALLY happening
+
+HMS PoW: big part broken, has to go into dry dock for repairs, will take lots of time and money
+
+HMS QE: smaller part broken, but HMS PoW is already broken so we're gonna take the one off of that and put it onto HMS QE instead so it can keep running in the meantime.
+
+HMS PoW will still get repaired, and the parts that are being sent to fix HMS QE will be replaced on HMS PoW, but since its already broken and waiting on long term repairs, it makes sense to salvage the spare parts for HMS QE as by the time the bigger repairs can be done on HMS PoW, you'll ALSO replace the parts you salvaged for HMS QE.
+
+
+Tldr; instead of BOTH boats being broken, now only 1 boat is broken, and it's going to be fixed, it just might take slightly longer or cost a little bit more.
+--- 57970936
+>>57970906
+How dare you post a factual qrd of the benefit of 2 carriers and not a click bait meme
+--- 57970952
+>>57970906
+Noooooo stfu stfu stfu we are here to laugh at bongs
+--- 57970974
+>>57970906
+Why are those carriers broken at the same time
+--- 57971013
+>>57970906
+>It's not like they're getting rid of it you stupid fuck.
+they will get rid of them quicker than you think given their track record
+--- 57971027
+>>57970974
+Because when the shit could drizzle, it pours.
+--- 57971156
+Not like this...
+--- 57971204
+>>57971156
+He should have gone much faster than that.
+--- 57971247
+>>57970801 (OP)
+Oh no, hato is over! How will now hato ever compete with superior ruzzianz "one" shitty carrier?
+--- 57971374
+>>57970906
+But they've only been in service for two years why are they both broken in the first place?
+--- 57971442
+>>57971374
+the last PROVE military ship design the bongs did was the type45 and that only because it was basicly a fremm
+--- 57971481
+>>57970906
+Not yet, no first they are going to waste even more money on them to try and save some face
+--- 57971492
+>>57971442
+Didn't the Type 45 also break all the time?
+--- 57971504
+>>57971492
+yes but at least it could travel further than those POS lol
+--- 57971562
+>>57970801 (OP)
+Very shortly after sailing from Portsmouth on 27th August a coupling that joins sections of the starboard propeller shaft failed, causing significant damage to the shaft, propeller and some superficial damage to the rudder. The ship was subsequently dry docked in Rosyth inspection and repair. It has emerged the coupling break was the result of vibration caused because the shaft was out of alignment, something that was known about long before the carrier first left the shipyard in 2019. Experts advised the shaft misalignment was “within acceptable tolerance levels” and should not be a problem. The ship was certified by Lloyds inspectors and steamed several thousand miles before the accumulated stress from the misalignment broke the coupling. There is an argument that reliance on the advice of a single expert when the shafts were known to have issues was taking too much of a risk and was the result of a rush to get the ship to sea for political reasons, precisely who bears responsibility is unclear.
+
+On arrival in Rosyth, the port shaft was also inspected and showed similar signs of misalignment damage, requiring sections to be replaced. A new starboard propeller and shaft sections have been supplied by an overseas manufacturer. The initial plan was to complete the shaft repairs in Rosyth and then return to Portsmouth for a Capability Insertion Period (CIP) that includes aviation-related electronic upgrades. Since the shaft repairs have taken longer than expected, the CIP was started in Rosyth so as not to cause further delays. The CIP is now the greater part of the work and the remedial work on the shafts is likely to be completed ahead of the CIP. The cost of repairs, (excluding CIP which was budgeted for and planned long in advance) is expected to be approximately £25 million.
+--- 57971588
+>>57971562
+The Daily Mail article published on 23rd April claiming that PWLS has been “reduced to acting as a scrap yard to keep sister ship Queen Elizabeth afloat” is a juvenile clickbait and a distortion of the facts. In an ideal world, the RN would have a complete inventory of spare parts for all of its vessels but budgetary constraints mean that spares are taken from non-active vessels to ensure vessels on the front line can go to sea. STOROB is a routine, if not ideal, practice in most navies and taking selected equipment from PWLS for use on HMS Queen Elizabeth is a sensible short-term solution. This is not an indication that the PWLS has been reduced to some kind of donor hulk and is being cannibalised before she is scrapped. Equipment is not “ripped out” in haste, rather it is very carefully removed and transported to the sister vessel.
+
+Many of the parts manufactured for the aircraft carriers (and indeed most naval vessels) are bespoke designs produced in very small numbers and it can be very expensive or impossible to obtain replacements at short notice. It is a prudent use of limited funds to remove the part from a ship that does not immediately need it and move it onto a frontline platform. The replacements will then be cheaper as the supplier has more time to manufacture them. In the case of some particularly expensive items such as parts for the Type 45 destroyers, new spares will not be purchased at all and they are cycled between ships of the same class as they move between operations and upkeep. This kind of STOROB is not a permanent long-term solution for the two aircraft carriers when it is planned to have periods when both ships will be operational and new spares will have to be purchased.
+--- 57971598
+>>57971588
+In the case of QNLZ, the two main items transferred from her sister ship were fuel coalescer filters and the chains used in the aircraft lifts. The filters are used to coalesce very fine water particles that may be present in the fuel into larger droplets than can then be removed more easily. The MT 30 Gas Turbines require fuel of extreme purity.
+
+HMS Prince of Wales will return to Portsmouth in the next few months for some final maintenance work and the RN is confident she will be ready to begin her programme in August. This will almost certainly include the Westlant23 deployment where she will cross the Atlantic and conduct the much-delayed final round of flying trials with US-based F-35 jets. The DT-3 programme will include more advanced testing of shipborne Rolling Vertical Landing (SRVL) which will allow the F-35B to land on the ship with unused weapons or heavy fuel loads.
+
+HMS Queen Elizabeth will sail in mid-May ahead of the CSG23 deployment in the summer. Details of this trip are not yet in the public domain but it is believed that the Carrier Strike Group will be sent to join NATO operations the eastern Mediterranean, although not expected to go east of Suez this year.
+--- 57971710
+>>57970801 (OP)
+This has been debunked already, i also like how you hid the source - the national - which is a hilariously one eyed Scottish nationalist website.
+--- 57972540
+>>57970906
+>tldr the front fell off
+--- 57973772
+>>57970801 (OP)
+>shut down your steel industry
+>Offshore all blue-collar jobs to China, so (((investors))) can make more money.
+>Import cheap shitty steel
+>Be unable to defend yourselves.
+
+This was always the endgame for West. All of the west cannot produce material to supply a limited war in Ukraine.
+Look up how many howitzers UK produced in 1915.
+--- 57973817
+>>57970801 (OP)
+England is poor
+--- 57973836
+>>57973772
+bro europe produces plenty of steel
+--- 57973887
+>>57970936
+>>57970952
+>>57970906
+pathetic bongs, what part of "newly built carriers are both broken" you don't understand? i don't give a shit that you're gonna repair them eventually, the point is that they shouldn't have broken in the first fucking place.
+--- 57973905
+>>57973887
+>pathetic bongs
+American actually
+
+also, i never defended them both being broken at the same time, I'm just saying the idea that one ship is being taken apart and scrapped for the other ship to keep on going is just wrong, and it's what these clickbait articles are implying.
+--- 57974077
+should have bought Chinese like the biggest navy in the world did.
+Can never go wrong with Chinese. The USN proved it!
+--- 57974125
+>>57973836
+Britain produces next to nothing
+--- 57974186
+>>57970906
+its interesting because you need your roleplay boats to actually work if you want them to work in a war
+--- 57974239
+>>57970801 (OP)
+
+>BOTH carriers broken at the same time
+--- 57974406
+>>57974077
+I still cant believe that this shit is real. How can Americans still cope.
+--- 57974428
+>>57974406
+We have the most money, guns, airframes, and aircraft carriers.
+
+I sleep pretty well at night all things considered.
+--- 57974547
+>>57970906
+so you're saying they're gonna scrap PoW (I keep reading this as prisoner of war, nice name bongs) and it will never leave port under its own power again?
+--- 57974971
+>>57971492
+The part that kept breaking on the Type 45s was the intercooler that fed heat back into the Integrated Electric Propulsion system. It was the part made by Northrop Grumman. Perhaps they ought to stick to aircraft.
+--- 57975045
+These repeat threads are asinine warriortard.
+--- 57975082
+>>57974239
+>>57973817
+>>57974125
+>warriortard samefagging 
+
+Everybody was shitting on Russia until you came here to seethe about the UK cuz they had btfo you in some way, it’s clear for literally everyone to see that this is all the same butthurt guy making these threads
+--- 57978668
+>>57974077
+this
+--- 57978676
+>>57974406
+we don't use fake/out of context webms to show how superior we are
+--- 57978712
+>>57978676
+>if the video makes us look bad and does not last at least 5 hours to provide ""background"", it's out of context. 
+k
+--- 57978935
+>>57970906
+what’s the actual problem with the HMS Prince of Wales?
+--- 57979062
+>>57978935
+unironically, they listened to the US and stopped using Chinese components.
+The original plan is to have just 2 carriers with enough quality to rotate them. If they have used Chinese, just like how the F-35 parts, they would have been fine.
+BUT instead they used American which resulted in shitty specs and frequent breaking down. You think I am trolling? Why does the US need 3 carriers to maintain a carrier op rotation? That's right. They anticipated that somehow two of them would break down at the same time so they needed a third.
+oh well, such is the life of a vassal. But it's not like the 2 bong carrier is useful in the big picture anyway KEK.
+--- 57979079
+>>57979062
+>incoherent warriortard seething in a warriortard thread
+More news at 11.
+--- 57979091
+>>57970906
+Thanks for letting me know this "world power" has not one, but two broken carriers. How embarrassing.
+--- 57979096
+>>57979079
+>no argument
+I accept your confession.
+--- 57979102
+>>57973887
+Shit breaks when you use it retard
+--- 57979122
+>>57970906
+wait, so are the British going back to the age of sail thing of having two ships to have one ship so you could keep the other in Ordinary half the time?
+--- 57979162
+>>57979122
+About a third of American carriers are under repairs most of the time, it’s not something that ever went away, if anything they should be building more
+--- 57979195
+>>57979162
+I didn't know that, I don't know why I thought they stopped doing that, it's not like ships got less complex or something.
+--- 57979592
+>>57979195
+American carriers and ships in general are low quality. They need 3 ships per one actual operational ship because they expect 2 of them to break down at the same time all the time.
+They actually only have 3 operational carriers. The entire "Pacific fleet" always have at most 4 DDGs running at the same time. It's fucking pathetic. That's why there are rampaging piracy in SE before the PLAN started to expand.
+Compared and contrast the rate of piracy in African in SEA in anywhere before and after PLAN presence. There's a world difference.
+--- 57979625
+>>57979592
+>American carriers and ships in general are low quality. They need 3 ships per one actual operational ship because they expect 2 of them to break down at the same time all the time.
+
+no, the general rule of thumb is 1 training 1 repair/maintenance/1 operational.
+
+nuffin special
+--- 57979682
+God punished those filthy albions for defiling his creation by pretending to be humans.
+Now they will stop making fun of the French carrier
+>no ramp
+>nuclear powered
+>only one tower
+>hasn't been scrapped 4 years after being launched
+
+>>57970906
+>>57970936
+>>57970952
+obvious samefag is obvious
+--- 57979686
+>>57979625
+>training
+more like tranny. There is nothing to operate to require the so-called "operational" carriers. You use the operational carrier to train.
+There are at most 4 carriers not in dry dock all the time for the USN. What you says doesn't reflect reality, unless you count dilating in drydocks as "training."
+it's just a cope for shoddy shipbuilding practices. If you don't have a equally robust civilian counterpart industry, your defense industry is guaranteed to be shit.
+--- 57979975
+>>57979686
+Are you actually retarded? You can see the number of carriers at sea on the Navy's website at any time. Protip its not been 4 since the 1930s.
+--- 57979995
+>>57979686
+based chang, made me chuckle
+--- 57980011
+>>57970801 (OP)
+So now there's only the US and PLAN still in the carrier race?
+--- 57980014
+Test.
+--- 57980015
+>>57979682
+>Now they will stop making fun of the French carrier
+Come on Pierre, even if the entirety of the Royal Navy was just a single rowing boat we'd still be mocking the retardation of only having a single carrier (entirely for ego related reasons). Don't worry, it's only about 50% personal.
+--- 57980065
+>>57980015
+>entirely for ego related reasons 
+Don't be dumb. There should've been two carriers, but then 1989 and 1991 happened and "muh piss dividends" brainrot set in.
+--- 57980078
+>>57970801 (OP)
+Imagine how bad it is in countries where you get shot for reporting on this kind of thing
+--- 57980086
+>>57980065
+Exactly, you could have afforded two regular carriers without too much problems, but that overcharged Gallic ego of yours just HAD TO HAVE a nuclear carrier, so you could only afford one.
+--- 57980101
+>>57980078
+Countries where you get shot for reporting this kind of thing don't have an economy of $874.5 billion, and usually don't bother with LARPing as an empire.
+
+UK should surrender the Falklands, Gibraltar, and Northern Ireland; and put an end to this farce.
+--- 57980107
+>>57980101
+Come and take them, faggot
+--- 57980111
+>>57980101
+>$874.5 billion
+
+poland?
+--- 57980115
+>>57970974
+Murphies law
+--- 57980137
+>>57980111
+lol, Poland's is $754 billion.
+--- 57980147
+>>57980107
+If your military continues to decay like this, we very well might. Save yourself the embarrassment. Not even Scotland wants to be part of your country anymore, and without them (GDP of $205 billion), you'll be completely fucked.
+--- 57980161
+>>57980147
+It's always fun when an American thinks he has any idea about anything.
+--- 57980170
+>>57980161
+Second Scottish Independence Referendum is coming, as is Irish unification. The EU won't allow Spain's national sovereignty to be violated any longer either. The UK is now in the same boat as Putin.
+--- 57980174
+>>57980101
+>usually don't bother with LARPing as an empire.
+actually, a lot of them do
+--- 57980184
+>>57980170
+Keep going Bubba, show us all what your last meth trip told you.
+--- 57980205
+>>57974125
+Thatcher and Major did this
+--- 57980216
+>>57980205
+Problem was Thatcher selling everything off and allowing debt to massively increase boosted the economy and was popular and electorally successful, so no one was allowed to call it out without being called a crank or a dinosaur. So her ideas have persisted to this day.
+--- 57980254
+>>57980086
+>overcharged Gallic ego of yours
+Ain't a frog, so it's not personal. 
+>two regular carriers 
+Nobody has been building large oil-fired boilers for military ships since the '60s, anon. And, without a source of steam, you had to use copeslopes. Stuff like COGES or EMALS are recent inventions. If you wanted a CATOBAR carrier in the '80s and '90s, it was nuclear or nothing.
+--- 57980256
+>>57974077
+lmao the memes write themselves
+--- 57980316
+>>57980205
+British upper and middle class did this. Don't blame the Tories past the fact they did what laissez faire capitalists do. 
+Allowing communist backed unions to strike consistently and not offer any restitution such as reeducation to the industries that you have to shut down, like mining and the steel works that were supplying our shitty hand produced cars, while privatising every ounce of utilities so the price ever skyrocketed, especially post Net Zero retardation, was a consistent issue that the government slept on, long before Thatcher. 
+Britain needed to take the Japan pill but instead went into class turmoil where the middle class blamed the working class for not allowing the middle class to shut down the industries that the working class relied on and the unions, instead of allowing automation, told the working class the middle class was the issue and directed hate at them and not the actual issues of Britain being 20 years behind Germany/France/Sweden and 40 years behind Japan. 
+It's gotten no better after there was little automation due to the incessant paperwork and council/industrial interference in the UK so Britain basically rotted from the inside while millions of pakis, poos and nigs were brought in to patch up the ever aging production.
+--- 57980322
+>>57980170
+>Second Scottish Independence Referendum is coming
+
+Oh yeah? Whens the date?
+--- 57980383
+>>57980316
+Thatcher and then later Major's policies directly caused the housing crisis we find ourselves in, and closing the collieries was done with no regard as to what these people were going to do for work. You cant just put thousands of people out of work and expect then to "allow automation" and there was no transitionary plan in place for these industries to change their model while still allowing existing workers to move over. Everything from our natural resources, our energy companies and more importantly the national grid, mail, rail and now they're cannibalising the public health service as well. Even smaller things like allowing our car industry to be bought by indians and germans have had massive effects on what domestic industries we actually even have here. 
+
+Tories are to blame for all of this, those middle class wankers (probably tories or tory voters themselves) only followed on from the precedents set by people like Thatcher and Major
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxSWhMV70Lo&ab_channel=MajorSamm [Embed]
+--- 57980484
+>>57970801 (OP)
+England should get rid of its military entirely so it can build more mosques.

k/57970928.txt

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+-----
+--- 57970928
+Grim news /k/, you have been forcibly conscripted into the Russian armed force and assigned to the frontlines of the Ukrainian special military operation. The Ukrainian counter offensive is expected to begin any day, supported by all manner of HATO wunderwaffen like accurate artillery and tanks from this century. You must stand against this offensive to protect key strategic resources from falling into enemy hands. In the event of your capture or surrender, Russian intelligence will release fabricated evidence of your war crimes, leading to an inevitable sentence in the Azov cumpits.
+
+You have your trusty AK and anti-tank shovel at your disposal. How do you hold out against the hohols?
+--- 57970948
+I put the gun in my mouth and pull the trigger immediately
+--- 57970988
+Dig a foxhole and get ready to die.
+--- 57971009
+>>57970948
+Interesting strat anon, not sure how it will help but I'm sure you have a plan
+--- 57971081
+>>57970988
+Your commanding office understands your anxiety, he offers you the symbol of the cross to kiss, perhaps this will ease your nerve
+--- 57971164
+>>57970928 (OP)
+erect glorious tank traps (made with only the best* chinese steel*) to stop HATO baby-rapist tanks
+proceed to then hide in a cardboard box to camoflage myself from drones
+--- 57971233
+Go Guerrilla.
+--- 57971533
+>>57971233
+BRAAAAP
+--- 57972593
+>>57971233
+>me
+Saddam Hussein posts here?
+--- 57972631
+oh great. the special ed kids are showing off their finger paintings.
+--- 57972641
+>>57970928 (OP)
+Try to beat the high score for military mass murder spree
+--- 57972647
+>>57972631
+>a screeching vatnik already embarrassed himself 
+Imagine losing your flagship to a country with no navy
+--- 57972663
+>>57970928 (OP)
+Like this
+--- 57972738
+>>57970928 (OP)
+Hide in my trench until Colonel Lukashenko’s counterattack
+--- 57973906
+>>57970928 (OP)
+I kill as much as my Russian "comrade" as possible, may this final act purge my sins and cleanse even a little bit the plague I've allowed to spread in the world.
+--- 57974546
+>>57972663
+Wtf I wanna play poker with Sadam too.
+--- 57974974
+>>57974546
+It's strip poker >:3
+--- 57975678
+>>57970928 (OP)
+Requesting some fellow mobiki and hide behind them
+--- 57975760
+>>57972738
+Mein Monke...
+Luka...
+--- 57975779
+>>57970928 (OP)
+I form a group with like-minded conscripts and take some of our officers hostage. I surrender to Ukraine and turn the officers over, falsely stating the least-liked one is a political officer and recommending that they be tortured for intelligence.
+--- 57975845
+>>57972155
+kek
+--- 57976066
+5000 hours in MSpaint
+--- 57976164
+>>57970928 (OP)
+Pay my commanding officer 100 rubles (0.00001 USD) to say I died. Wait until nightfall and start walking back home
+--- 57976174
+>>57976066
++1
+--- 57977840
+>>57975760
+No….
+--- 57977863
+>>57970928 (OP)
+I’d build a lil fort for meself
+--- 57977885
+I stick the shovel in the ground about 50 yards in front of me, digging end up. The round will hit the edge of the shovel and get split in half, allowing me to kill 2 hohols with each round. I save the second to last bullet for my CO, and the last one for myself.
+--- 57980091
+BUpppo
+--- 57980100
+>>57971233
+Where is Saddam?
+--- 57980103
+>>57970928 (OP)
+>all manner of HATO wunderwaffen like accurate artillery and tanks from this century
+--- 57980440
+>>57970928 (OP)
+I will charge the frontlines for glorious Kadyrov. It didn't work for the last 600 thousand, but it will work this time.
+--- 57980462
+Grim news OP
+
+Your mom found her vibrating dildo in your closet and it's covered in shit.
+
+U in trouble
+--- 57980477
+>>57970928 (OP)
+I shoot my officers